Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag Poster

Here is the article - http://kotaku.com/5987035/assassins-creed-iv-is-all-about-pirates-according-to-this-poster?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Twitter&utm_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow  
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18funlcsl98szjpg/medium.jpg  
  
Thoughts?

Same robes as Connor, yet not Connor. So...its either his successor or one his predecessors probably the latter.

I guess we know tomorrow :confused:. I think the poster is fairly ugly and not as slick as AC marketing usually is, so I'm not convinced yet. Can it be for some new comic book (are those numbered?).

I guess we know tomorrow :confused:. I think the poster is fairly ugly and not as slick as AC marketing usually is, so I'm not convinced yet. Can it be for some new comic book (are those numbered?).  
what i thought too, but the comics aren't numbered :(.  
And i realy don't like that 4 and black flags is in the same title.

what i thought too, but the comics aren't numbered :(.  
And i realy don't like that 4 and black flags is in the same title.  
  
That's a good point, none previous numbered title has had a subtitle I think. That may indicate something fishy is going on?

I think this idea pretty good. I loved the "pirate moments" of AC3.

That's a good point, none previous numbered title has had a subtitle I think. That may indicate something fishy is going on?  
I think i found the answer and its pretty simple. New hero and time period = numbered, same hero and time period = subtitle and new charcter but same time period or the opposite = numbered + subtitle.

Remember this isn't official. I don't like the whole numbered with a subtitle thing either. Let alone "Black Flag" is a **** title. Also why choose a comic style of graphic? Guess we will know if and when these posters go up March 4th or 5th like it said in the article.

Remember this isn't official. I don't like the whole numbered with a subtitle thing either. Let alone "Black Flag" is a **** title. Also why choose a comic style of graphic? Guess we will know if and when these posters go up March 4th or 5th like it said in the article.  
But kotaku said weeks before the ac3 anouncment that it would be in colonial America with a Native.

Supposedly claimed to be an in-game screenshot...  
  
http://i.imgur.com/9HFT0D9.jpg

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=516192  
  
The main character's name is Edward Kenway, father of Haytham Kenway from Assassin's Creed 3. Edward is known as a Privateer, Assassin and occasional pirate. The games location is set in the Caribbean on multiple island including Jamaica, Cuba and the Bahamas  
  
a bigger version of the image posted above  
http://www.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/large_lightbox/hash/f3/cc/1361901153_2468_1.jpg  
  
if this is true this is interesting but I still hope they decide to use the naval feature in a game that has nothing to do with AC, this way they can have more freedom to work on the game and give this feature the proper attention...

A game about Haytham's father?!  
  
Okay, this got me more interested.

DOnt care for the comics tyle on the poster, didnt care for alex ross' Connor image either..  
the so called screenshot is very different from the comic poster, maybe theres more/better costumization this time if this is all real stuff...  
  
Im staying unexcited before any real official news and images.

Edward Kenway....I'm in.

If it's about pirates or privateers, then perhaps it will be set just a little later than AC3. Perhaps Connor will feature as the new character's mentor. I sure hope that AC3 isn't the last we've seen of Connor, as he, along with Altaïr, is my favorite protagonist in the series. But I certainly can't wait for more naval combat!  
  
EDIT: So it's supposedly about Edward, huh? Makes me sad that the next game won't feature Connor, but oh well...

Was reading another article about the poster leak and it was created by Todd McFarlane, which would explain the comic book style. Considering the recently announced AC McFarlane figure line, it makes sense.

Glad to see that Darby McDevitt is writing?

Apparently Darby McDevitt is writing it as well.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=516192  
  
The main character's name is Edward Kenway, father of Haytham Kenway from Assassin's Creed 3. Edward is known as a Privateer, Assassin and occasional pirate. The games location is set in the Caribbean on multiple island including Jamaica, Cuba and the Bahamas.  
  
I like all of that. Tree parkour on exotic islands+naval combat+Haytham's father = :)!

It's odd they name it asssassins creed 4.... I can accept this game as ac3 2 but the time difference does no jsutify a neww numebred title in my optinion. The connection is too strong to haytham/connor  
  
If theya re gonna call it ac4 it betetr be as big as ac3 not a short game like brootherhood and revelations.

I like all of that. Tree parkour on exotic islands+naval combat+Haytham's father = :)!  
  
not excited about tree parkour if it's supposed to be the same as AC3, IMO that still need a lot of improvement.

not excited about tree parkour if it's supposed to be the same as AC3, IMO that still need a lot of improvement.  
  
For a first attempt I thought it was very well made. Best tree climbing in video game history to my knowledge. I'm glad they gave it a second go to hopefully push it even further (more varied big trees would be nice for example).

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=516192  
  
The main character's name is Edward Kenway, father of Haytham Kenway from Assassin's Creed 3. Edward is known as a Privateer, Assassin and occasional pirate. The games location is set in the Caribbean on multiple island including Jamaica, Cuba and the Bahamas  
  
if this is true this is interesting but I still hope they decide to use the naval feature in a game that has nothing to do with AC, this way they can have more freedom to work on the game and give this feature the proper attention...  
  
What if...Connor named his own son Edward like his gradfather?? Didn't they previously said next title will be about "a playable character's son"?

not excited about tree parkour if it's supposed to be the same as AC3, IMO that still need a lot of improvement.  
  
Well, they have chance for decent sized cities. Havana, Port Royal and Nassau sound like the three places they could use, considering the areas they mentioned. So you get a pretty great combination, if you ask me.   
  
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/1740_Plan_of_the_city_and_harbour_of_the_Havanna_s ituated_on_the_island_of_Cuba_BPL_m8628.png  
  
http://shawnbrown.com/map_gallery/port_royal.jpg

I like the pirate "theme", but i definitely don't want it to emphasise naval combat more than AC3 did.

meh

I don't like that its the next numbered title tbh. This seems like a spinoff title even tho its not, the connection is too strong. When Ac brings a new number it should be a whole different character in a whole different time era and location.

What if...Connor named his own son Edward like his gradfather?? Didn't they previously said next title will be about "a playable character's son"?  
  
The pirate era is before connors time not after.

For a first attempt I thought it was very well made. Best tree climbing in video game history to my knowledge. I'm glad they gave it a second go to hopefully push it even further (more varied big trees would be nice for example).  
  
I agree that the idea wasn't bad and really fit the character (Connor), but I think the tree paths were too linear and often lead me to places I didn't want to go, IMO in a game where character movement is so unique like in AC we shouldn't have the kind of restriction we had with tree parkour in AC3, navigate through the trees should've been as smoothly as it is in the cities (at least in the previous games, since I also think that in AC3 use the roofs wasn't as productive as it used to be)

Edward Kenway sounds cool, pirates and naval not so much. Not that excited for it to be honest.

The way I see it, it's possible we may see ALL Kenways in this game at some point? Edward, Haytham and even Connor... Well, maybe...

So am I the only one who loved the naval battles? Apart from getting full sync on "The Storm and the Beast". :p

The way I see it, it's possible we may see ALL Kenways in this game at some point? Edward, Haytham and even Connor... Well, maybe...  
But Connor is not really a Kenway :P  
  
So am I the only one who loved the naval battles? Apart from getting full sync on "The Storm and the Beast". :p  
No, I loved them too but...it's Assassin's Creed. I'm not sure what to think of it...

So am I the only one who loved the naval battles? Apart from getting full sync on "The Storm and the Beast". :p  
  
I liked them but as side missions. I don't want my core games based too much on it. I still want the assassins creed feeling from ac1 and brotherhood. Meaning a balance of stealth and just killing everything in sight.

So am I the only one who loved the naval battles? Apart from getting full sync on "The Storm and the Beast". :p  
  
In my opinion naval was okay, but it didn't have a place in Assassin's Creed. Dedicating a whole game to it seems strange and out of place.

Hmm... Am I the only one who thinks this game may feature Connor in some way? It seems strange that they would use his grandfather if they weren't going to connect it to him at all.  
  
Though I never expect it will happen, I'd like to see a multi-generational AC, with three playable characters (Edward, Haytham, and Connor) each with their own cty to explore (Nassau, London, and maybe Charleston, respectively).

So am I the only one who loved the naval battles? Apart from getting full sync on "The Storm and the Beast". :p  
  
I enjoyed it, but it should be open world, and you should be able to board ships whener you want.  
  
Hmm... Am I the only one who thinks this game may feature Connor in some way? It seems strange that they would use his grandfather if they weren't going to connect it to him at all.  
It'll connect with Haytham that'll be your Connor connection.

But Connor is not really a Kenway :P   
  
How is he not a kenway?

Just another thought: that fact AC4 has a subtitle (black flag) means it's the 1st in a trilogy or something? It doesn't make sense otherwise.

Hmm... Am I the only one who thinks this game may feature Connor in some way? It seems strange that they would use his grandfather if they weren't going to connect it to him at all.  
Yes. My thoughts exactly. Also, see my previous post about possible trilogy or something.

But Connor is not really a Kenway :P  
  
How is he not!? lol

I agree that the idea wasn't bad and really fit the character (Connor), but I think the tree paths were too linear and often lead me to places I didn't want to go, IMO in a game where character movement is so unique like in AC we shouldn't have the kind of restriction we had with tree parkour in AC3, navigate through the trees should've been as smoothly as it is in the cities (at least in the previous games, since I also think that in AC3 use the roofs wasn't as productive as it used to be)  
  
The paths were more linear than ideal and you are right about being lead astray because you couldn't move in the direction you wanted to. But I think it's more fair to compare AC3's tree parkour to what other games have achieved rather than how it would ideally work. I'm no expert but I believe tree climbing is super hard to get right with all the irregular shapes, I think that's why nobody has even attempted this before. Therefor I feel Ubi deserves a lot of credit, both for taking the risk and for the execution, instead of criticsim because it wasn't perfect.

Why the title after the number....plus it doesn't even feel like a new AC. Feels like a AC3 spinoff

Apparently Darby McDevitt is writing it as well.  
Second time I've had to use this today  
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdh_ISiBC-I  
  
So I guess this is officially the death of social stealth? Not much crowds for blending on ships. I didn't think Naval was appropriate in AC3 so I can't say I'm very excited if this is true. We'll see though. If there's a strong focus on assassinations and a good story it could be very good.

How is he not a kenway?  
  
How is he not!? lol  
Well he is, going by blood but otherwise he never took up the Kenway name so y'know...

I am kind of worried about the writer. Didn't he basically write the stories that weren't extremely great? (AC: rev, and side games). I mean the story will probably be decent but probably not as great as ac2 and ac brotherhood.

Second time I've had to use this today  
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdh_ISiBC-I  
  
So I guess this is officially the death of social stealth? Not much crowds for blending on ships. I didn't think Naval was appropriate in AC3 so I can't say I'm very excited if this is true. We'll see though. If there's a strong focus on assassinations and a good story it could be very good.  
  
What i Said...

I am kind of worried about the writer. Didn't he basically write the stories that weren't extremely great? (AC: rev, and side games). I mean the story will probably be decent but probably not as great as ac2 and ac brotherhood.  
Revelations' gameplay was fairly stagnant, but the story was great?

Second time I've had to use this today  
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdh_ISiBC-I  
  
So I guess this is officially the death of social stealth? Not much crowds for blending on ships. I didn't think Naval was appropriate in AC3 so I can't say I'm very excited if this is true. We'll see though. If there's a strong focus on assassinations and a good story it could be very good.  
  
I am kind of worried about the writer. Didn't he basically write the stories that weren't extremely great? (AC: rev, and side games). I mean the story will probably be decent but probably not as great as ac2 and ac brotherhood.  
I liked the story in Revelations a lot more than Brotherhood mainly because it maintained a moral greyness and it was about the ASSASSIN again, not Robin Hood's Brotherhood and the blackest "templar bad guy cesare"

AC2 trilogy was my least favourite game but Rev for some reason was my fave?

I'm no expert but I believe tree climbing is super hard to get right with all the irregular shapes, I think that's why nobody has even attempted this before.  
  
It's not super-hard. It's incredibly friggin' amazingly super-duper mega irritatingly hard. Even though pretty much everybody thinks that tree-running is cool, it is EXTREMELY underrated. I was just marveled by what I saw, and... yeah. UbiSoft deserves a big kudos for that.

Better have ambient music. :nonchalance:

Haythams father? Have they run out of ideas? So instead of an Ezio trilogy we get a family Trilogy? Haha. Also, pirates = no for me. Naval was fun but missions too short. Also I hope this doesnt mean that they are going to leave cities until last.

God please, no. This is not Assassin's Creed anymore, I am out.

I don't Know about this really . If it is about pirates then I'm not excited at all . IMO They are destroying the series .. AC3 was awesome but could have been much better .

Remember guys this could all be not true still!

remember guys this could all be not true still!  
  
this!

Ubisoft relationship with Jerry Bruckheimer let to the conception of Assassins of the Caribbean :S  
  
Now we are going to kill Blackbeard and Jack Sparrow

Ubisoft relationship with Jerry Bruckheimer let to the conception of Assassins of the Caribbean :S  
  
Oh lord. I just see no point going to Haythams dad. Like seriously no point. I also don't see any point in focusing in naval. I hope they don't half arse on the cities and parkour. The things AC should have.

Remember guys this could all be not true still!  
Yeah in fairness this is just rumours still.

Oh lord. I just see no point going to Haythams dad. Like seriously no point. I also don't see any point in focusing in naval. I hope they don't half arse on the cities and parkour. The things AC should have.  
  
I prefer Haytham over his dad :3

You're right about the rumors. For some reason Black Flag sounds like a DLC for the actual AC4... (maybe that's how the subtitle is explained).  
Actual AC4 could be set somewhere else...

Black flag is trending on twitter..  
The buzz begins

You're right about the rumors. For some reason Black Flag sounds like a DLC for the actual AC4... (maybe that's how the subtitle is explained).  
Actual AC4 could be set somewhere else...  
  
Hey, thats what Brotherhood and Revelations originally were ;).

Hey, thats what Brotherhood and Revelations originally were ;).  
LOL Indeed!   
  
Oh I don't know anymore! >_< lol

You're right about the rumors. For some reason Black Flag sounds like a DLC for the actual AC4... (maybe that's how the subtitle is explained).  
Actual AC4 could be set somewhere else...  
  
But rumor says that they will give this posters to stores in March :O. Or maybe i'm wrong. Anyway if they made an Easter Egg of this game i will love to see Jack Sparrow and cut his troat with my hidden-blade :P

But rumor says that they will give this posters to stores in March :O. Or maybe i'm wrong. Anyway if they made an Easter Egg of this game i will love to see Jack Sparrow and cut his troat with my hidden-blade :P  
Maybe we are all being trolled by Ubisoft right now. LOL

It amazes me how some people can even think that Ubi will ditch EVERYTHING for naval -__-

It amazes me how some people can even think that Ubi will ditch EVERYTHING for naval -__-  
  
I'm worried more about the "heavily based" bit.

Maybe we are all being trolled by Ubisoft right now. LOL  
  
:( they could. Maybe is their vengeance for fans complaining on AC3 :P

I'm worried more about the "heavily based" bit.  
So ? Heavily based is VERY loose..  
  
It can mean anything to be honest...Like the profession of the protagonist..

Remember guys this could all be not true still!  
  
Come on, bro. The Black Flags name was leaked weeks ago. It's happening. We just don't know the details yet.

Has anyone thought about potential targets, by the way?  
  
Bartholomew Roberts is one I'd like to see for sure. Calico Jack and Mary Read are other two I've thought of. Maybe Edward Low as well.

Has anyone thought about potential targets, by the way?  
  
Bartholomew Roberts is one I'd like to see for sure. Calico Jack and Mary Read are other two I've thought of. Maybe Edward Low as well.  
  
My vote goes for Blackbeard :D. And maybe we actually get to meet Captain Kidd after all.

It amazes me how some people can even think that Ubi will ditch EVERYTHING for naval -__-  
  
.____. that is very true. Although they did ditch everything that made AC1 great. Hopefully for those that want to continue buying AC games this one won't suck, but personally I almost have no interest in AC

.____. that is very true. Although they did ditch everything that made AC1 great. Hopefully for those that want to continue buying AC games this one won't suck, but personally I almost have no interest in AC  
  
There`s a difference between ditching secondary features that tackle HOW you play and ditching core mechanics that MAKE the game in favor of a, in my opinion, gimmicky side attraction...

I highly doubt this is real -- the art style is so different compared to other AC games.

I highly doubt this is real -- the art style is so different compared to other AC games.  
  
come on it`s real...  
  
at this point, it can`t be fake...no matter how much you want it to be..  
  
face it, guys. it`s real

I highly doubt this is real -- the art style is so different compared to other AC games.  
  
:nonchalance:  
  
See my above post. The name was leaked from two different sources many days ago. This is real.

I highly doubt this is real -- the art style is so different compared to other AC games.  
  
Then silvermecry is right. Ubi is trolling us :'(

In ACIII it we learned that Edward Kenway was part of the Assassin Brotherhood in Europe(Great Britain) and that his son(Haytham) was influenced by a Templar family friend which led to him becoming a Templar Grand Master by ACIII. In addition there were rumors a few weeks back that the setting for ACIV would be Brazil and now that we know that Edward was an assassin pirate it makes sense that he has access to South America. It seems everything is piecing together but we can't know for-sure until tomorrow. To be honest I had hoped Ubisoft would take a 1 year break from AC before even announcing ACIV but it seems that is not going to happen. ACIII disappointed many fans and it will take something truly amazing to bring back my faith in the franchise. Please Ubisoft, don't let us down...

come on it`s real...  
  
at this point, it can`t be fake...no matter how much you want it to be..  
  
face it, guys. it`s real  
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18funlcsrntrxjpg/original.jpg  
This is a zoomed in version of the poster to highlight the main character's face (from the article).  
Now, compare it with the official cover art for other AC games.  
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/77/Assassins_Creed_2_Box_Art.JPG  
http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/42243310150594293533068611916306791026782093581204 n.jpg  
See how different the art style is? AC art style has always looked realistic, but this new poster looks like it's from a comic book.

I highly doubt this is real -- the art style is so different compared to other AC games.  
  
It was produced by Todd McFarlane. Considering that they just announced the McFarlance AC figure set it makes sense that he would do some promo art work. Those other examples are all finalized cover art. This could be very similar to the ACIII Ross art work that came out last Feb. Very different than the usual AC art style, but legit none the less.  
  
If it's AC I'm willing to give it a chance. No reason to jump to conclusions when all we basically know is a name, a premise, and a hard to make out screenshot.

I'm more interested to know how they're gonna carry on the modern-day story. I like pirates. Not much else to say about it until Ubi give us some official info.

This is a zoomed in version of the poster to highlight the main character's face (from the article).  
Now, compare it with the official cover art for other AC games.  
  
See how different the art style is? AC art style has always looked realistic, but this new poster looks like it's from a comic book.  
it`s just a poster not the cover and so what if it`s different ??  
  
God forbid ? :P

:nonchalance:  
  
See my above post. The name was leaked from two different sources many days ago. This is real.  
It's easy to assume that the guy who posted it to Reddit was lying and someone made art of it to troll us.

It's easy to assume that the guy who posted it to Reddit was lying and someone made art of it to troll us.  
  
if it`s real, you`ll put a Justin bieber banner for 12 weeks...deal ? :|

See how different the art style is?.  
  
No, not quite. Could you enlarge the picture a tad more? ;)

It was produced by Todd McFarlane. Considering that they just announced the McFarlance AC figure set it makes sense that he would do some promo art work. Those other examples are all finalized cover art. This could be very similar to the ACIII Ross art work that came out last Feb. Very different than the usual AC art style, but legit none the less.  
  
If it's AC I'm willing to give it a chance. No reason to jump to conclusions when all we basically know is a name, a premise, and a hard to make out screenshot.  
How do you know it's by Todd?  
  
it`s just a poster not the cover and so what if it`s different ??  
  
God forbid ? :P  
The poster art is most likely to be the cover art (if it is legit), but yeah -- the art from the initiates website is drawn realistically, so.

It's easy to assume that the guy who posted it to Reddit was lying and someone made art of it to troll us.  
  
Don't ruin my Sparrow assassination fantasy!!! :P

if it`s real, you`ll put a Justin bieber banner for 12 weeks...deal ? :|  
Deal.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18funlcsrntrxjpg/original.jpg  
This is a zoomed in version of the poster to highlight the main character's face (from the article).  
Now, compare it with the official cover art for other AC games.  
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/77/Assassins_Creed_2_Box_Art.JPG  
http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/42243310150594293533068611916306791026782093581204 n.jpg  
See how different the art style is? AC art style has always looked realistic, but this new poster looks like it's from a comic book.  
  
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8469/8076358269_80a41448dd_z.jpg  
  
That's all I'm gonna say.

Deal.  
  
Nice

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8469/8076358269_80a41448dd_z.jpg  
  
That's all I'm gonna say.  
That was drawn from a Marvel comics artist, so yeah.

How do you know it's by Todd?  
  
The poster art is most likely to be the cover art (if it is legit), but yeah -- the art from the initiates website is drawn realistically, so.  
  
"A photo of a poster, set to run in game stores this coming Monday, March 4, was sent to the outlet, indicating the name of the next AC game will be 'Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag'. The poster (http://kotaku.com/5987035/assassins-creed-iv-is-all-about-pirates-according-to-this-poster), illustrated by Todd McFarlane, also clearly showcases a new assassin in a pirate-themed era. This also lines up with multiple rumors from earlier this year, suggesting Ubisoft's time-spanning saga would be moving to the Caribbean."  
  
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/26/rumor-assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-uncovered

Not sure why everybody's freaking out...  
  
I'm bloody excited.

Deal.  
Your doing dangerous things, think about it a JB sig for 12 WEEKS!

Your doing dangerous things, think about it a JB sig for 12 WEEKS!  
  
last time I had this bet....I won :|  
  
he`ll come here any second to tell of his horrific experience of carrying a JB signature for 8 weeks :|

last time I had this bet....I won :|  
  
he`ll come here any second to tell of his horrific experience of carrying a JB signature for 8 weeks :|  
Will you use one if he wins?:p IF

Will you use one if he wins?:p IF  
  
Yes...I`m an honrable man of my word

Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag features Edward Kenway, father of Haytham Kenway from Assassin’s Creed III. Edward is known as a Privateer, Assassin and occasional pirate. The game location is set in the Caribbean on multiple island including Jamaica, Cuba and the Bahamas.

Spoiler xDD  
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.423565667732480.101216.109447572477626&type=1

Yes...I`m an honrable man of my word  
But he can't win, they even said some weeks some ago the new charcter is the father of a playable charcter... How could we not have seen this coming?

"A photo of a poster, set to run in game stores this coming Monday, March 4, was sent to the outlet, indicating the name of the next AC game will be 'Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag'. The poster (http://kotaku.com/5987035/assassins-creed-iv-is-all-about-pirates-according-to-this-poster), illustrated by Todd McFarlane, also clearly showcases a new assassin in a pirate-themed era. This also lines up with multiple rumors from earlier this year, suggesting Ubisoft's time-spanning saga would be moving to the Caribbean."  
  
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/26/rumor-assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-uncovered  
  
Poor Ubisoft. This rumor poster is spreading in the news like AIDS. Maybe they didn't even intended to announce anything about Black Flags tomorrow but now they will have no choice.

^ I get the feel you`re trying to tell us something important...

Ac IV: Black flag is about EDWARD Kenway, the father of Haytham...  
Assassin and pirate and the action takes place in Caribbean on multiple islands like Jamaica, Cuba and Bahamas

"A photo of a poster, set to run in game stores this coming Monday, March 4, was sent to the outlet, indicating the name of the next AC game will be 'Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag'. The poster (http://kotaku.com/5987035/assassins-creed-iv-is-all-about-pirates-according-to-this-poster), illustrated by Todd McFarlane, also clearly showcases a new assassin in a pirate-themed era. This also lines up with multiple rumors from earlier this year, suggesting Ubisoft's time-spanning saga would be moving to the Caribbean."  
  
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/26/rumor-assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-uncovered  
Welp  
Time to make my signature Bieber :(

Ac IV: Black flag is about EDWARD Kenway, the father of Haytham...  
Assassin and pirate and the action takes place in Caribbean on multiple islands like Jamaica, Cuba and Bahamas  
1 time was enough i already know now.

^ I get the feel you`re trying to tell us something important...  
I don't get it :confused:

just pointing it out xDD :P

Welp  
Time to make my signature Bieber :(  
  
LOL :D You can make him being assassinated by the new Assassin Hero, just an idea ;)

Welp  
Time to make my signature Bieber :(  
No need..  
  
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/008/a/5/justin_bieber_sig_by_angi_h-d36po6o.png  
  
wear it proudly

xDD

No need..  
  
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/008/a/5/justin_bieber_sig_by_angi_h-d36po6o.png  
  
wear it proudly  
My god! I forgot how shoking it was!

No need..  
  
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/008/a/5/justin_bieber_sig_by_angi_h-d36po6o.png  
  
wear it proudly  
Kill me, please.

This is better though?   
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAzLYVQxHBkO160UKK8_pBz8yewOQET fNaHil2ZQ_7-fdvezKj

Kill me, please.  
  
:D lol, you can always add a few creative things in there ;)

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/1285300_o.gif

Kill me, please.  
Could you please leave the forum for 12 weeks?:)

This is better though?   
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAzLYVQxHBkO160UKK8_pBz8yewOQET fNaHil2ZQ_7-fdvezKj  
no...Just the one I bestowed... :|

Couldn't you make one with him getting head stomped or something? :/

Couldn't you make one with him getting head stomped or something? :/  
  
It has to show love :P  
  
To be convincing AND embarassing   
  
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

kill me, please.  
omfg......

:D lol, you can always add a few creative things in there ;)  
I'd probably get banned for making my signature too big :(  
  
Could you please leave the forum for 12 weeks?:)  
No, grit your teeth and bear with it.

2-0 for the M

It has to show love :P  
  
To be convincing AND embarassing   
  
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA  
  
Aha, indeed. lol

I'm getting all of these images in my head of an Assassin walking around a little Caribbean town on Jamaica or Cuba or even the Bahamas... It seems so cool. I'm going to the Caribbean with my cousin this summer so I sort of freaked out when I heard this news.  
  
Nice sig by the way...

No need..  
  
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/008/a/5/justin_bieber_sig_by_angi_h-d36po6o.png  
  
wear it proudly  
  
This is... cruel xD

I just caught the "ACBF" announcement of my facebook page. An must admit, if there's even an ounce of truth to those reports..., Count me in most definately. I just hope the game length, content (minor tweaks of course) are the same as AC3, as AC3 was by far the best of the franchise in my humble opinion.

The in game screenshot screams essences of Ezio from Revelations, even the character's stance looks like that of pre-AC3. Could it be at the old mechanics from older AC games, I hope so. Also, I hope they remove the Tree Parkour and Wildlife, in favour of old building trotting.   
  
Still not feeling the Pirate theme.

I'd probably get banned for making my signature too big :(  
  
Add an angry kitten with guns in one of the sides of the banner :D

Add an angry kitten with guns in one of the sides of the banner :D  
  
Any addition to the signature will be a violation to the bet :|

If this is true, it sounds interesting. But the naval battles have to be drastically improved if the core gameplay is going to be centered around naval battles.

Well i would love an open world action adventure game about pirates made by ubisoft, and i am ok with it being Assassins Creed, but it should be just a spinoff, maybe even without the modern day stuff. But a number and a subtitle seems really weird, and it thought it was "Black Flags" not "Black Flag", what happened to the plural?

If this is true, it sounds interesting. But the naval battles have to be drastically improved if the core gameplay is going to be centered around naval battles.  
exactly :)

Any addition to the signature will be a violation to the bet :|  
  
Even this? http://i.imgur.com/uthPOJy.gif

Any addition to the signature will be a violation to the bet :|   
  
Stardust235 has my permission to violate Justin Beiber :[

Even this? http://i.imgur.com/uthPOJy.gif  
  
No....I allow this :|

People on other forums think the one in the screenshot is Connor. Same hair color and ponytail... What do you think??

People on other forums think the one in the screenshot is Connor. Same hair color and ponytail... What do you think??  
  
I think It`s Edward....wanna bet ?  
  
Loser wears a JB signature for 12 weeks :|

I think It`s Edward....wanna bet ?  
  
Loser wears a JB signature for 12 weeks :|  
JB signature 2.0*

I think It`s Edward....wanna bet ?  
  
Loser wears a JB signature for 12 weeks :|  
I'm not taking any bets. LOL I said OTHER PEOPLE in forums! xD

JB signature 2.0*  
  
Alright..  
  
I'm not taking any bets. LOL I said OTHER PEOPLE in forums! xD  
damm it

Well, they pretty much just confirmed it on Facebook:  
  
"Our Community seems oddly attracted to Pirates lately Some are even going as far as changing their Facebook language setting to PIRATE!"  
  
That's from AC's official Facebook page.  
http://www.facebook.com/assassinscreed/posts/10151347161773068

People on other forums think the one in the screenshot is Connor. Same hair color and ponytail... What do you think??  
  
I was hoping it would be Connor too. But is unlikely, i checked out the dates for the Golden Age of Pirates and they are prior Connor's time :( we are talking about his grandfather's time indeed. Haytham was born in 1725 and many importan pirates died in 1710's

I just hope they don't pretend that they're doing this for the fans. "oh we listened to our fans and they really wanted a game heavily based on naval combat blah blah blah." But i guess we don't really know how heavily featured it will be yet.

I was hoping it would be Connor too. But is unlikely, i checked out the dates for the Golden Age of Pirates and they are prior Connor's time :( we are talking about his grandfather's time indeed. Haytham was born in 1725 and many importan pirates died in 1710's  
  
Edward is looking pretty freaking likely at this point.

I was hoping it would be Connor too. But is unlikely, i checked out the dates for the Golden Age of Pirates and they are prior Connor's time :( we are talking about his grandfather's time indeed. Haytham was born in 1725 and many importan pirates died in 1710's  
  
William Kidd ??

I think it's pretty freakin' cool we'll have played three generations of this family? I've always wanted that in an AC game, only in this case it's spread over two games.

William Kidd ??  
  
He died in 1701 in London

William Kidd ??  
  
He died a bit earlier (1703, maybe?) but I think we're looking at the Golden Age of Piracy in the Caribbean during the 1710's-1730's, at which time Edward would likely be in his twenties or thirties if Haytham was born in 1725.

He died a bit earlier (1703, maybe?) but I think we're looking at the Golden Age of Piracy in the Caribbean during the 1710's-1730's, at which time Edward would likely be in his twenties or thirties if Haytham was born in 1725.  
  
The golden age of piracy stretches earlier than 1710 actually...

He died a bit earlier (1703, maybe?) but I think we're looking at the Golden Age of Piracy in the Caribbean during the 1710's-1730's, at which time Edward would likely be in his twenties or thirties if Haytham was born in 1725.  
  
Yes, that is what i was thinking. Nobody knows when Edward was born. But seeing that Haytham birthyear is 1725 his dad can't be too old. But who knows, Ezio was like 55.

The golden age of piracy stretches earlier than 1710 actually...  
  
Not in the Caribbean. There was an initial outbreak of piracy in the 1600's, but the age of piracy everyone thinks about when they think of pirates (i.e. Blackbeard, Yo-Ho-Ho, all that jazz) was after the War of Spanish Secession, which would be in the mid-1710's if my high school knowledge serves me properly.

Should be interesting. I'll pick it up hopefully a PS4 version if they make it. I just wonder how it will work into Modern Day story and Juno. I would like to hear about how those might fit into AC4.

Not in the Caribbean. There was an initial outbreak of piracy in the 1600's, but the age of piracy everyone thinks about when they think of pirates (i.e. Blackbeard, Yo-Ho-Ho, all that jazz) was after the War of Spanish Secession, which would be in the mid-1710's if my high school knowledge serves me properly.  
  
you`re correct...  
  
But I still have a feeling it`ll tie with Kidd somehow

Well, they pretty much just confirmed it on Facebook:  
  
"Our Community seems oddly attracted to Pirates lately… Some are even going as far as changing their Facebook language setting to PIRATE!"  
  
That's from AC's official Facebook page.  
http://www.facebook.com/assassinscreed/posts/10151347161773068  
  
BAM! Confirmed!  
I hope the part about Edward Kenway is true, too. Forsaken was written from Haytham's POV, but he didn't know much about his father's life.  
  
Yes, that is what i was thinking. Nobody knows when Edward was born. But seeing than Haytham birthyear is 1725 his dad can't be too old. But who knows, Ezio was like 55.  
  
Haytham was not Edwards only child, he also has a daughter, Jenny, who is 12 years older than Haytham.

Well, they pretty much just confirmed it on Facebook:  
  
"Our Community seems oddly attracted to Pirates lately Some are even going as far as changing their Facebook language setting to PIRATE!"  
  
That's from AC's official Facebook page.  
http://www.facebook.com/assassinscreed/posts/10151347161773068  
Yeah.

Did they take that FB post down? The link isn't working and I couldn't find the post on the AC FB page.

Did they take that FB post down? The link isn't working and I couldn't find the post on the AC FB page.  
https://www.facebook.com/assassinscreed/posts/10151347161773068  
  
Screenshot:  
http://puu.sh/28Shn

Also I was just replaying AC3 for the second time, and while talking to Shaun after Sequence 3, he mentions Haythams father Edward and how he was a big enemy of Reginald Birch  
So I think it's also safe to say Reginald will play a large role in this

you`re correct...  
  
But I still have a feeling it`ll tie with Kidd somehow  
  
Well, Kidd died in Edward's hometown. Maybe he was secretly an Assassin operating in the Caribbean and a friend to the Kenways, and young Edward left to continue his work after he was executed?

please dont be true assassins creed is not meant to be pirates is should almost defo be victorian london would be much better suited to the series

Bloody pirates!

a list of potential targets/allies:  
  
"Many of the most well known pirates in historical lore originate from this Golden Age of Piracy.  
  
Henry Morgan, a buccaneer who raided the Spaniards and took the city of Panama. He was to be executed in England but was instead knighted and made governor of Jamaica. He died a natural death in 1688.  
  
Henry Every, who is most famous for being one of the few major pirate captains to retire with his loot without being arrested or killed in battle, and also for capturing the fabulously wealthy Mogul ship Ganj-i-Sawai in 1694.  
  
William "Captain" Kidd, who was executed for piracy at Execution Dock, London in 1701, is famous for the 'buried treasure' he is supposed to have left behind.  
  
"Black Sam" Bellamy, captain of the Whydah Gally, who was lost in a storm in 1717.  
  
Stede Bonnet, a rich Barbadian land owner, turned pirate solely in search of adventure. Bonnet captained a 10-gun sloop, named the Revenge, raiding ships off the Virginia coast in 1717. He was caught and hanged in 1718.  
  
Edward Teach (Thatch), more commonly known as Blackbeard, was active from 1716 to 1718 as perhaps the most notorious pirate among English-speaking nations. Blackbeard's most famous ship was the Queen Anne's Revenge, named in response to the end of Queen Anne's War. Blackbeard was killed by one of Lieutenant Robert Maynard's crewmen in 1718.  
  
Calico Jack Rackham was captured, then hanged and gibbeted outside Port Royal, Jamaica in 1720.  
  
Bartholomew Roberts, sometimes called "Black Bart", has been considered by many as the most successful pirate of all time. He was killed off the coast of Africa in 1722.  
  
Edward Low, active 17211724, who was notorious for torturing his victims before killing them.  
  
William Fly, whose execution in 1726 is used by historian Marcus Re****r to mark the end of the Golden Age of Pirates."

Thanks. It isn't still up is it? Mabye premature by the AC team.

Haytham was not Edwards only child, he also has a daughter, Jenny, who is 12 years older than Haytham.  
  
Yes, i know, thats why i was also saying that Edward could be old enough to have met Captain Kidd somehow. Because he died in 1701, and Kidd is important in AC3. Maybe Kidd letter's descriptions about people from a secret organization, could have ment he was being followed by the Assassins. Or maybe it was Edward who helped him hidde his shield ring in Oak Island.

Thanks. It isn't still up is it? Mabye premature by the AC team.  
It is.

Meh. Would much prefer Victorian England or the French Revolution. Also, I have zero interest in the ongoing story anymore. This just screams attempt to cash in on the naval technology that was developed for AC3, which was nice but not that interesting to me honestly.  
  
Looking forward to playing the first third of the game as Connor's great-grandfather though!

Meh. Would much prefer Victorian England or the French Revolution. Also, I have zero interest in the ongoing story anymore. This just screams attempt to cash in on the naval technology that was developed for AC3, which was nice but not that interesting to me honestly.  
  
Looking forward to playing the first third of the game as Connor's great-grandfather though!  
They're trying to use their naval and water tech it seems...  
  
Also "first-third of the game" is that a reference to AC3 or are you suggesting something we don't know >_>

They're trying to use their naval and water tech it seems...  
  
Also "first-third of the game" is that a reference to AC3 or are you suggesting something we don't know >_>  
  
Just a sarcastic swipe at playing the first chunk of AC3 as someone other than the main advertised character.

Idk how I feel about this after reading through everything I could find. I feel like the game is gonna be too similar to ac3 for it to be a ac4 title. Still feels like something they would do for a spinoff so knowing its a sequel gives me mixed feelings. Heres hoping Ubisoft don't further ruin the series. If its like 40% naval missions or some crap I am gonna be super annoyed. Every AC has been getting less cool after acb for me, ac3 improved some stuff but I don't get the vibes I got from ac2 and how everything flowed so well, you could tell they worked extremely hard on that game.

If this ends up being true, I... don't know what to say.  
  
I wanted one, JUST ONE, single more game with Connor, to expand a bit his role on the Assassin Brotherhood on the new world and see the evolution of America back in the day. And then Ubi could freely move to ACIV for me. Let the series get a one-year breath (or just make another portable game, but nothing too big).  
  
Then, I find this whole pirate thing. Now, don't take me wrong: Naval Missions were (ARE) awesome on ACIII, but calling this ACIV, with a character just like this (instead of trying to give Connor a bit more protagonism and see where he fits into all this "Important Assassin lineage"... No. Just no Ubi. Be careful with this awesome series -- if you push it to the limit too much, it will be ruined almost intsantly.

smacks of a Vita title to me. ACIV being the main console game and the Black Flag spin off being the Vita one.

Freeroaming through the Caribbean (at least I assume we will be able to do that now) with the ship sounds pretty nice, and I do like pirates and the naval missions in AC3, but I don't know how this will really fit with Assassin's Creed.   
It feels so different. Not sure what to make of it now.   
  
Though playing as Haytham's dad sounds nice.

Freeroaming through the Caribbean (at least I assume we will be able to do that now) with the ship sounds pretty nice  
  
Yeah i can imagine the frontier being replaced with a large area of the sea to explore.

do u think it will be on pc?

do u think it will be on pc?  
  
Na it will be a gameboy color exclusive.

Not sure what to think yet. The poster is drawn, that's not usual Ubi style. Looks great but still. And there are no Ubisoft corporate logos. The outfits from the poster and supposedly leaked screen don't match really.  
  
We'll see. I kind of think it's true but some things make me think it may be fake.

do u think it will be on pc?  
  
Yep, though its release date will never be "officially announced", and will suddenly change to 3-5 weeks after the console release date about a month or two before the console release. All due to "extra time finishing up the game" mind you, and certainly not just as a misguided effort to combat piracy (piracy, how ironic). Because try as they might, they just haven't managed to figure out how to release the PC version at the same time as the console versions despite 5 cracks at it so far.  
  
Man though, the title sounds so cheesy. A number and a subtitle? It just feels very amateurish to me. Like they couldn't decide what to call it, and this is the title that came out of several rounds of focus groups.  
  
Kind of nice to see that Darby McDevitt is working on it though. I had a feeling that he moved on to another AC title after Revelations came out. I thought he did pretty well with what he had to work with on Revelations, though I think his modern day stuff could improve and I would have liked to see him write something like the glyphs or Altaïr's Codex pages in Revelations. I thought he was really nice to the fans during the summer leading up to Revelations' release and he was very accessible to a lot of different media people. I think he might have popped in to the forums a time or two as well, especially after he found himself being the person to tell the world that Altaïr and Ezio weren't related. I felt bad that some people accused him of altering that part of AC lore on his own whim. Anyway, good times and I appreciated Darby back in the days before and after Revelations' release.

I like the idea and all but I'd rather have Victorian London. xD

Hmm, though the pants & boots from poster and screen seem to match. Really not sure. But it could be it

Seems strange to have a numbered game with a subtitle. I'm leaning towards this being a Vita title like someone suggested, with a "proper" AC4 coming somewhere down the line. Then again, I'm not surprised by anything Ubisoft does these days.  
  
I liked the naval battles in AC3 but making them such a big part of the franchise is a mistake IMO. It's also clear that for another numbered title to come out this fast, it can't possibly have any huge technological or gameplay leaps compared to AC3. While I wasn't a big fan of Connor, it's slightly disappointing (if predictable) to see them going back to a white male protagonist again. The fact that we'll be playing as Haytham's father (if the rumors are true) seems like lazy storytelling. I didn't care for ACR so Darby McDevitt as the lead writer spells bad news to me.  
  
Oh well, I was gonna pick up the next AC title from the bargain bin anyway, this just makes me feel better about that decision.

Imagine that Ubisoft leaked all this in purpose to get the real thing hidden lol

Few other outfit details seem to match as well (crossed belts on back & front; the flounce around wrists - is that's how it's called?). Perhaps the outfit from poster is hidden under brown jacket he has in the suppousedly in-game screen?

Imagine that Ubisoft leaked all this in purpose to get the real thing hidden lol  
  
I uh, think this person knows the truth. They probably did leak this rofl. I'm sorry, but I got to laugh at all the nerd rage, angry typing and everything else in this thread rofl.

http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/assassins_creed_4_black_flag.jpg  
  
If only the rest of the area wasn't blurred out..

Anybody else remember this rumor from a while ago:  
  
"Yup. Dunno if its ac 4 but i heard the titles black flag and golden age. New lead character is rumored to be a father of a playable character and will have co op alongside a famous scottish pirate."  
  
The "father of a playable character" would appear to be accurate if we'll be playing as Edward Kenway and the subtitle is Black Flag as predicted. If these things are true, then the co-op rumor could be as well.

Flip the picture, it's a gameplay picture.

Seems strange to have a numbered game with a subtitle. I'm leaning towards this being a Vita title like someone suggested, with a "proper" AC4 coming somewhere down the line. Then again, I'm not surprised by anything Ubisoft does these days.  
  
Doubtful, they don't make a poster like this for a Vita game. Not to mention we didn't actually have the Vita game announced until some time later after the main game announcement.  
  
Black Flags has simply been rumored for far too long for us to be dealing with a Vita game here, initially it was rumored as a AC3 DLC to take place after the Washington stuff, but like Brotherhood and Revelations before it evidently they've had a change of plan.

I hope this a fake, if it's not, goodbye Assassin's Creed.

Somone on GAF suggested that the poster artwork may have been done by Todd McFarlane? Does it fit his style (question to people who know it obviously)

I hope this a fake, if it's not, goodbye Assassin's Creed.  
  
Great fan we have here. You should leave anyway.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d3/Spawn.jpg  
  
Judge by yourself.

Somone on GAF suggested that the poster artwork may have been done by Todd McFarlane? Does it fit his style (question to people who know it obviously)  
  
He is a Comic Book artist, he definitely fits the quota on the poster. Big name in the comic book world so if true Ubi have spent big bucks on this one.

Great fan we have here. You should leave anyway.  
  
Assassin's Creed is a game were we trael in time trougth different time, cities and events, that's the bases of the saga. Now I'm sorry, but playing a pirate during the 17 century (which is totally empty, i term of events) isn't Assassin's Creed, it's a naval game.  
  
Seriously, if they want to make a pirate game, go ahead, i'll support you, but don't make an Assassin's Creed game for God sake, it will only gives less freedom of scenario and it will kill another series...

Assassin's Creed is a game were we trael in time trougth different time, cities and events, that's the bases of the saga. Now I'm sorry, but playing a pirate during the 17 century (which is totally empty, i term of events) isn't Assassin's Creed, it's a naval game.  
  
Seriously, if they want to make a pirate game, go ahead, i'll support you, but don't make an Assassin's Creed game for God sake, it will only gives less freedom of scenario and it will kill another series...  
  
I fail to see how there wouldn't be events... Honestly, how many cities were there in the Caribbean? A lot, so there's bound to be events. God, just leave already.

Somone on GAF suggested that the poster artwork may have been done by Todd McFarlane? Does it fit his style (question to people who know it obviously)  
  
I posted this a few pages back. The article confirms that the ACIV poster is a McFarlane piece.  
  
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/26/rumor-assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-uncovered

Anybody else remember this rumor from a while ago:  
  
"Yup. Dunno if its ac 4 but i heard the titles black flag and golden age. New lead character is rumored to be a father of a playable character and will have co op alongside a famous SCOTTISH!!!! pirate."  
  
The "father of a playable character" would appear to be accurate if we'll be playing as Edward Kenway and the subtitle is Black Flag as predicted. If these things are true, then the co-op rumor could be as well.  
From Wikipedia:'William "Captain" Kidd (1645 – 23 May 1701) was a SCOTTISH!!!! sailor remembered for his trial and execution for piracy after returning from a voyage to the Indian Ocean. Some modern historians deem his piratical reputation unjust, as there is evidence that Kidd acted only as a privateer.'' oooohhh Sounds very Interesting!!!

I posted this a few pages back. The article confirms that the ACIV poster is a McFarlane piece.  
  
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/26/rumor-assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-uncovered  
Well IGN may be going by their own assumptions and rumors just as well.  
  
Dunno. Some things make the entire leak seem fake but I think it's all most likely true. The in-game screenshot is definitely real, it's an actual rendered model, don't think anyone would bother to fake such thing.  
  
Also, interesting tweet from VG247's editor: https://twitter.com/patlike/status/306460525422850049 Yeah, the press may already know the leak is real

From Wikipedia:'William "Captain" Kidd (1645 – 23 May 1701) was a SCOTTISH!!!! sailor remembered for his trial and execution for piracy after returning from a voyage to the Indian Ocean. Some modern historians deem his piratical reputation unjust, as there is evidence that Kidd acted only as a privateer.'' oooohhh this Sounds Very Interesting!!!  
You know what they say about piracy... Don't be a pirate towards the biggest club wielder. Then ya won't be labeled one! O_O

I fail to see how there wouldn't be events... Honestly, how many cities were there in the Caribbean? A lot, so there's bound to be events. God, just leave already.  
  
I'm talking about great events, not a little fight in a tavern.   
  
AC1: The Crusad  
AC2: Renaissance  
ACB: Renaissance + Borgia domination  
ACR: Constantinopoli under the Turkish regiment   
AC3: American Revolution  
AC4: Naval battles, nice, but they could have gone on more interesting times. Like Antiquity, Egypt, Feodal Japan, and more.

I really hope they won't be taking elements or ideas from the Pirates of the Caribbean like they did with the Revelations DLC characters :(

From Wikipedia:'William "Captain" Kidd (1645 – 23 May 1701) was a SCOTTISH!!!! sailor remembered for his trial and execution for piracy after returning from a voyage to the Indian Ocean. Some modern historians deem his piratical reputation unjust, as there is evidence that Kidd acted only as a privateer.'' oooohhh Sounds very Interesting!!!  
  
Working with Captain Kidd for the Britsh East India company then turn to be a pirate...why not. But still, that could have been a stand alone game with to link to ACs...

Sooo.... if the sea is the new Frontier, will we be harpooning whales for meat? lol Swimming with the dolphins? :cool:

If this is true, and I'm afraid it is, holy ****. I'm even more disappointed than back when they announced the setting for ACIII. Seriously, why. WHY. Lost opportunites as always, just a bad way to re-use the naval combat. Here's hoping this is just a DLC for AC3, but I doubt it. Just make a standalone-pirate game Ubisoft, but not ACVI. NO.

No...It couldn't be...Could it? Im sorry but this does not seem real to me. Asassin's creed has always been about historical settings and mind blowing events, while still remaining within the realm of realistic. This...This just seems to be going a bit too far off the fictional side for it to be real. It seems too typical, you know, a pirate themed game? Really?

So, since this rumour is almost confirmed, that shatters my hopes of the franchises taking a break. Do not get me wrong, I love it, and I am sure that this pirates/naval stuff will be very fun, but being honest, I would have preferred to experience other settings......

I'm talking about great events, not a little fight in a tavern.   
  
AC1: The Crusad  
AC2: Renaissance  
ACB: Renaissance + Borgia domination  
ACR: Constantinopoli under the Turkish regiment   
AC3: American Revolution  
AC4: Naval battles, nice, but they could have gone on more interesting times. Like Antiquity, Egypt, Feodal Japan, and more.  
  
Oh god, not the Japan/China bit again. There won't be any Japan/China AC games. Not everyone wants it, thus the majority rules that there will not be one.  
  
Caribbean Sea is filled with events if you even paid attention in your social studies or history classes. Not just bar fights like you think there will be. Just leave now, you're not a fan of AC.

No...It couldn't be...Could it?Yup, it's looking more and more likely, verging on granted. But we'll have to wait few more days to be sure

On a side-note, when AC3 was first shown to have naval battles, a lot of people cried out for a multiplayer naval mode. Since the new game seems to be heavily naval-based, it would seem almost odd not to have naval multiplayer.

On a side-note, when AC3 was first shown to have naval battles, a lot of people cried out for a multiplayer naval mode. Since the new game seems to be heavily naval-based, it would seem almost odd not to have naval multiplayer.  
I could defnitely see MP version of naval happening. It would be a big new feature for MP to lure people in.

Oh god, not the Japan/China bit again. There won't be any Japan/China AC games. Not everyone wants it, thus the majority rules that there will not be one.  
  
Caribbean Sea is filled with events if you even paid attention in your social studies or history classes. Not just bar fights like you think there will be. Just leave now, you're not a fan of AC.  
Enough with this "you're not a true fan of AC if you disagree with me" bollox. It's perfectly valid to dislike this potential setting as it is to dislike a potential Japanese setting. Jesus Christ.

Setting seems cool and character seems interesting. Just make me like him and give him appeal and a strong involvement in the modern day story line and everything should be ok, still want to k ow who the new modern day protagonist is.

No...It couldn't be...Could it? Im sorry but this does not seem real to me. Asassin's creed has always been about historical settings and mind blowing events, while still remaining within the realm of realistic. This...This just seems to be going a bit too far off the fictional side for it to be real. It seems too typical, you know, a pirate themed game? Really?  
  
if that's the case then they already dropped the ball in AC3 because the american revolution was far from being a mind blowing event, IMO it was pretty boring.

Enough with this "you're not a true fan of AC if you disagree with me" bollox. It's perfectly valid to dislike this potential setting as it is to dislike a potential Japanese setting. Jesus Christ.  
Yup, exactly.  
  
Considering the naval battles and how people enjoyed them in ACIII - Ubi could have just made a DLC. But instead, they decides to make a full game? Whatever you folks say, but that is milking the cow without being creative. Seriously, pirates just seem so cliché.

Setting seems cool and character seems interesting. Just make me like him and give him appeal and a strong involvement in the modern day story line and everything should be ok, still want to k ow who the new modern day protagonist is.  
If there is one. I wouldn't rule out completly Ubisoft going ACL route, with next to new modern-day presence. specially now with Watch Dogs coming and being what a lot of people see as "modern Assassin's Creed"

If there is one. I wouldn't rule out completly Ubisoft going ACL route, with next to new modern-day presence. specially now with Watch Dogs coming and being what a lot of people see as "modern Assassin's Creed"  
  
There has to be one, Juno is on the loose and mankind is still in trouble, maybe Edward holds the answers.

Enough with this "you're not a true fan of AC if you disagree with me" bollox. It's perfectly valid to dislike this potential setting as it is to dislike a potential Japanese setting. Jesus Christ.  
Your reading comprehension saddens me... Work on it.

Yup, exactly.  
  
Considering the naval battles and how people enjoyed them in ACIII - Ubi could have just made a DLC. But instead, they decides to make a full game? Whatever you folks say, but that is milking the cow without being creative. Seriously, pirates just seem so cliché.  
  
this (IMO) doesn't mean pirates aren't cool, but IMO they could've made a better use of this feature and theme in a stand alone game like some people suggested

Your reading comprehension saddens me... Work on it.  
Explain exactly what you meant then. In detail. I'm all ears genius. Does "Just leave now you're not a fan of AC" have some double meaning I'm not aware of?

if that's the case then they already dropped the ball in AC3 because the american revolution was far from being a mind blowing event, IMO it was pretty boring.  
  
Not exactly!  
  
American revolution was a direct cause to both French and Latin American revolutions.....Defeating the United Kingdom was a very big deal!

this (IMO) doesn't mean pirates aren't cool, but IMO they could've made a better use of this feature and theme in a stand alone game like some people suggested  
Yeah, I'm all for a good pirate-game, there are definitely not enough of there. But putting the Assassin's Creed label on there seems like a really bad strategy in order to make the sales better.

***SPOILER ALERT***  
  
From what I have heard, the character is Edward Kenway, the father of Haytham, and grandfather of Connor Kenway. And due {***SPOILER ALERT***} Desmond's death, I think either the Main Modern-Day Assassin will have to be William Miles or Desmond's Mother. I thought I had heard that Desmond's rich ancestry came from his mother, and if that is true we will have to relive Desmond's Mother's past. And let's not forget Juno.

No exactly!  
  
American revolution was a direct cause to both French and Latin American revolutions.....  
  
we didn't play the French and Latin American revolutions so...  
  
Yeah, I'm all for a good pirate-game, there are definitely not enough of there. But putting the Assassin's Creed label on there seems like a really bad strategy in order to make the sales better.  
  
that's true..

we didn't play the French and Latin American revolutions so...  
  
Ehrm no, but my point is that you cannot say that "nothing happened".

The screen shot looks like the graphics from AC3:L, so since, there is a title along with AC4 this could be a Vita game released along AC4.

I trust ubisoft can make any character and setting interesting so I have high hopes.

Ehrm no, but my point is that you cannot say that "nothing happened".  
  
yeah, I understood your point, but I my point wasn't that the american revolution didn't serve for anything in the real world, IMO it wasn't that interesting for a game, sorry if I wasn't more clear in my previous post..

I'm excited about the Darby rumor. I think he did a fantastic job with Revelations and Embers.

I wonder if Ubisoft will lift embargo tomorrow, soon after press event? Conbsidering everything seems to be leaking anyway...

The screen shot looks like the graphics from AC3:L, so since, there is a title along with AC4 this could be a Vita game released along AC4.  
Huh, great point.  
Assassin_M, if this ends up being true, do I get to remove my Bieber signature?

I wonder if Ubisoft will lift embargo tomorrow, soon after press event? Conbsidering everything seems to be leaking anyway...  
  
Doubtful. The press has already signed an NDA that decrees the embargo won't lift until Monday.

lol 12 weeks? And M is so lazy, it's the same one I wore last year. Get creative M

Huh, great point.  
Assassin_M, if this ends up being true, do I get to remove my Bieber signature?  
  
Yes and I get to wear it..  
  
Keep dreaming, though:p

lol 12 weeks? And M is so lazy, it's the same one I wore last year. Get creative M  
i`v become attached :P  
  
reminds me of my victories

lol 12 weeks? And M is so lazy, it's the same one I wore last year. Get creative M  
Haha wow, glad to know I'm not the only one that has to suffer this ordeal.  
  
Yes and I get to wear it..  
  
Keep dreaming, though:p  
Keeping my fingers crossed at the event tomorrow.

Wait, so what has to happen for M to put on Bieber sig tomorrow?

A made a thread long back :P - http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/752885-Assassin-s-Creed-4-Black-Flags-Rumor

Wait, so what has to happen for M to put on Bieber sig tomorrow?  
This game has to be a fake or not the real AC4, just a vita exclusive (like liberation)

A made a thread long back :P - http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/752885-Assassin-s-Creed-4-Black-Flags-Rumor  
  
If the entire Black Flag turns out to be true tomorrow/next week, then it will also confirm that this was suppoused to be DLC for AC3 originally, since the first reddit rumor talked about DLC

This game has to be a fake or not the real AC4, just a vita exclusive (like liberation)  
  
it just needs to be a fake:rolleyes:  
  
making it easier for you:p

I just hope the recruit system goes back to the old way, I did like the in depth characters, but I didn't like how they looked nothing like Assassins, didn't have hidden blades (I don't think), DIDN'T WEAR ASSASSIN ROBES, and didn't have ceremony. But the bodyguard ability HAS to stay, I love the Assassins following me around.

it just needs to be a fake:rolleyes:  
  
making it easier for you:p  
Thanks, appreciate it.

I just hope the recruit system goes back to the old way, I did like the in depth characters, but I didn't like how they looked nothing like Assassins, didn't have hidden blades (I don't think), DIDN'T WEAR ASSASSIN ROBES, and didn't have ceremony. But the bodyguard ability HAS to stay, I love the Assassins following me around.  
  
I hope it stays the "AC III" way...  
  
The robes can go to hell if you ask me...

What's with you people and dlc? i very much prefer to get a full game, even if short, than some crappy overpriced extra naval missions dlc.

What's with you people and dlc? i very much prefer to get a full game, even if short, than some crappy overpriced extra naval missions dlc.  
  
You prefer to pay $60-80 bucks for what is ultimately the exact overpriced, short DLC you describe?

Oh god, not the Japan/China bit again. There won't be any Japan/China AC games. Not everyone wants it, thus the majority rules that there will not be one.  
  
Caribbean Sea is filled with events if you even paid attention in your social studies or history classes. Not just bar fights like you think there will be. Just leave now, you're not a fan of AC.  
  
So to be a ''real fan'' I must let Ubisoft destroy one of the must beautiful saga of this generation ? And accept that the serie is going around with ****ty ideas and cheap scenario ?   
  
And also...who wanted a AC Naval game huh ? No one. Pirate game, yes, AC Pirate game, never.

Sorry but my console doesn't play"Pirated" Games :p  
  
Ba dum TSHHHH

So to be a ''real fan'' I must let Ubisoft destroy one of the must beautiful saga of this generation ? And accept that the serie is going around with ****ty ideas and cheap scenario ?   
  
And also...who wanted a AC Naval game huh ? No one. Pirate game, yes, AC Pirate game, never.  
  
I don't get it with you people. What's wrong with an AC pirate era game? Buildings and trees existed in the Caribbean at that time, so you can't complain about not being able to climb anything.   
  
There could even be a Jungle instead of the Frontier. There would be assassinations as there have been in every AC game to date.  
  
The complaining is very annoying if I'm honest.