<caption><image_199>The image shows a group of people sitting in a room with a projector screen in the background. The people are of different ages and ethnicities, and they appear to be engaged in a discussion or presentation. The focus of the image is on a woman standing in the center of the room, who is wearing a black blouse and glasses. She is gesturing with her hands as she speaks. Behind her, there are several other people, including a man in a suit and tie, who seems to be listening attentively to her. The room has a beige wall and a window on the left side.</caption><transcript><audio_200>artists that are in your area because every movement has a soundtrack and artists are providing it so if you're connected with those artists that'll help you in terms of our programming I wanted to say that we'd like to leave a</transcript><transcript><audio_201>little fluidity in our programming so when things happen that are relevant and important to our community I'll give you example when Dan Wilson gets off the communities in Florida</transcript><transcript><audio_202>so we just opened our doors ordered a whole bunch of food told everybody to come and it was almost like a repack you know in a community where I come from a repass like a party almost you know and so it was a way that we could</transcript><transcript><audio_203>facilitate healing for the community um you know the artists were inspired to create around the subject matter you know so that's why I say like you know connect with the people on the ground and also leave a little bit of room in your program so that you can address it without having to go through all of the</transcript> artists that are in your area because every movement has a soundtrack and artists are providing it so if you're connected with those artists that'll help you in terms of our programming I wanted to say that we'd like to leave a little fluidity in our programming so when things happen that are relevant and important to our community I'll give you example when Dan Wilson gets off the communities in Florida so we just opened our doors ordered a whole bunch of food told everybody to come and it was almost like a repack you know in a community where I come from a repass like a party almost you know and so it was a way that we could facilitate healing for the community um you know the artists were inspired to create around the subject matter you know so that's why I say like you know connect with the people on the ground and also leave a little bit of room in your program so that you can address it without having to go through all of the


<transcript><audio_204>you know political you know things that we not normally have to go through with programming and viewing also connecting prior to the assets we're viewing the physical asset as being with my interpretation is seeing it as part of</transcript><transcript><audio_205>as being owned by the community because I think that that's an important twist and is if you start to see it not owned by the board or not owned by um a group that sort of cares for it but owned by the community or partly owned</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_208>by the community it really starts to change the ways in which you think about your work and do you actually set money aside for these flexible kind of activities so so if you were spontaneously going to invite the</transcript> you know political you know things that we not normally have to go through with programming and viewing also connecting prior to the assets we're viewing the physical asset as being with my interpretation is seeing it as part of as being owned by the community because I think that that's an important twist and is if you start to see it not owned by the board or not owned by um a group that sort of cares for it but owned by the community or partly owned by the community it really starts to change the ways in which you think about your work and do you actually set money aside for these flexible kind of activities so so if you were spontaneously going to invite the

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<image_209>The image shows a person sitting in front of a projector screen with a presentation on it. The person is facing away from the camera and their back is facing the screen. The presentation appears to be about personal and civic concepts, as indicated by the text on the screen which reads "Celebrations of larger audience". The background is dark, and the person's silhouette is visible in the foreground.
<transcript><audio_210>community to come does is there a little budget that says here we can pay for the</transcript><transcript><audio_211>come for like catering yeah you know things like that but the thing is when you when you consider yourself a part of the community the community considers themselves part of your community and so a lot of people bought drinks and food and things like that and so it was not a huge huge</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_213>expense yeah and like over 100 people can but then they bought children and everything and everybody was fed so we we are bringing the Campbell Brothers still sacred steel string</transcript> community to come does is there a little budget that says here we can pay for the come for like catering yeah you know things like that but the thing is when you when you consider yourself a part of the community the community considers themselves part of your community and so a lot of people bought drinks and food and things like that and so it was not a huge huge expense yeah and like over 100 people can but then they bought children and everything and everybody was fed so we we are bringing the Campbell Brothers still sacred steel string


<transcript><audio_214>guitars and we plan we I have to plan really far ahead so I'm slow I'm like the Titanic I sort of inch along and I feel a lot this funding to bring great artists and it's it's a small town so we can bring really great Acts</transcript><caption><image_215>The image shows a group of people sitting in a conference room. They are all wearing name tags and appear to be engaged in a discussion. In the center of the image, there is a woman sitting on a chair with her arms stretched out in front of her. She is holding a blue object in her hand and appears to be speaking or explaining something. Behind her, there are six other people sitting on chairs, all of whom are looking at her attentively. The room has a beige wall and a projector screen on the right side.</caption><transcript><audio_216>the students just said Amherst Uprising it was fascinating they just rocked it they took over Frost Library they talked and mostly white students listened it was great and so I talked with one of the leaders of Amber's Uprising and I said Campbell brothers are here as part</transcript><transcript><audio_217>of MLK celebrations to actually add to that and um it turns out we're not the addition we're the only thing this year things have fallen apart so we sort of have the only programming I said what what what how could you take over ownership of this like what what how is this helpful</transcript><transcript><audio_218>to you and that was the wrong question I think because she came back at me and she said we'd like to go on stage and do our performance you know it had nothing to do and I I tried that and I couldn't make that go because there were precedents and we can't do it</transcript> guitars and we plan we I have to plan really far ahead so I'm slow I'm like the Titanic I sort of inch along and I feel a lot this funding to bring great artists and it's it's a small town so we can bring really great Acts the students just said Amherst Uprising it was fascinating they just rocked it they took over Frost Library they talked and mostly white students listened it was great and so I talked with one of the leaders of Amber's Uprising and I said Campbell brothers are here as part of MLK celebrations to actually add to that and um it turns out we're not the addition we're the only thing this year things have fallen apart so we sort of have the only programming I said what what what how could you take over ownership of this like what what how is this helpful to you and that was the wrong question I think because she came back at me and she said we'd like to go on stage and do our performance you know it had nothing to do and I I tried that and I couldn't make that go because there were precedents and we can't do it


<transcript><audio_219>technically but I couldn't I couldn't establish the connection now on the 29th of January I had that date I had the willingness I had I had Partners across campus with funding with with catering funding which I don't have um I built all that and then it fell</transcript><transcript><audio_220>down because I couldn't give her what she wanted how how what's the question I should ask like should I not even have programming and just go talk to students like what's the what would be your advice</transcript><transcript><audio_221>think that this this don't you kind of how important it is to make the contacts before the last minute uh we talked to we talked to the to the BSU and said you know we're thinking of bringing the Campbell brothers would they be appropriate do you like them and the BSU</transcript><video>
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<image_224>The image shows a large group of people sitting in a conference room. They are all facing the front of the room and appear to be engaged in a discussion or presentation. The room has a carpeted floor and a projector screen on the wall. There are several people standing in the background, some of whom are holding papers and microphones. The people in the room are of different ages and genders, and they are all looking towards the audience. Some of them are wearing name tags, indicating that they are attending a conference or event.
</video><transcript><audio_225>came and said a black student union said yes it's great band brown but that's a different question so we do know any local artists that might be or if you want you all if you have a conversation about the inclusive prior to then that'll that will help and then there's also a</transcript> technically but I couldn't I couldn't establish the connection now on the 29th of January I had that date I had the willingness I had I had Partners across campus with funding with with catering funding which I don't have um I built all that and then it fell down because I couldn't give her what she wanted how how what's the question I should ask like should I not even have programming and just go talk to students like what's the what would be your advice think that this this don't you kind of how important it is to make the contacts before the last minute uh we talked to we talked to the to the BSU and said you know we're thinking of bringing the Campbell brothers would they be appropriate do you like them and the BSU came and said a black student union said yes it's great band brown but that's a different question so we do know any local artists that might be or if you want you all if you have a conversation about the inclusive prior to then that'll that will help and then there's also a


<transcript><audio_226>respect with you know there are constraints so we're small Arts organization and so we you know we do have constraints budget constraints and all that type of stuff right but um there are other individuals who for instance I represent artists and so my</transcript><transcript><audio_227>husband is just serious and so he's a hip-hop artist and people hit me up all the time like any common perform and we don't have a big budget a lot of times if you offer people a platform and this time I may not be able to accommodate your budget requests but next time I got</transcript><transcript><audio_228>you girl you know what I mean sometimes that works you know I mean but it's building those relationships because I'm not you know they're I'm sure they understand that this was like a last minute thing so you just have conversations they keep building thank you</transcript><transcript><audio_229>I know Maria wants to jump in thank you my name is the National Association of Latino arts and cultures and national service Organization for the Latino Arts field and I just want to uh just add and support to what you were</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_232>saying uh that if you want to build connections with Community you have to engage with them all the time and you have to bring them into your programming into your decisions about what the mission and how you're going to work as</transcript> respect with you know there are constraints so we're small Arts organization and so we you know we do have constraints budget constraints and all that type of stuff right but um there are other individuals who for instance I represent artists and so my husband is just serious and so he's a hip-hop artist and people hit me up all the time like any common perform and we don't have a big budget a lot of times if you offer people a platform and this time I may not be able to accommodate your budget requests but next time I got you girl you know what I mean sometimes that works you know I mean but it's building those relationships because I'm not you know they're I'm sure they understand that this was like a last minute thing so you just have conversations they keep building thank you I know Maria wants to jump in thank you my name is the National Association of Latino arts and cultures and national service Organization for the Latino Arts field and I just want to uh just add and support to what you were saying uh that if you want to build connections with Community you have to engage with them all the time and you have to bring them into your programming into your decisions about what the mission and how you're going to work as


<transcript><audio_233>a central part of what you're doing you know it cannot be just about diversity and bringing in you know one group or adding one person to your board it has to be about deep engagement with your community whether it's the Latino Community African Asia whatever</transcript><transcript><audio_234>Community it is that they need to feel that they have ownership and a voice in the organization you know and that will bring in the community its audience if you want when you build that trust and you build that sense of sincere</transcript> a central part of what you're doing you know it cannot be just about diversity and bringing in you know one group or adding one person to your board it has to be about deep engagement with your community whether it's the Latino Community African Asia whatever Community it is that they need to feel that they have ownership and a voice in the organization you know and that will bring in the community its audience if you want when you build that trust and you build that sense of sincere


<transcript><audio_235>engagement that your organization and your program really reflects them as well their voice as well that there can be a true interculturality in in what you do and</transcript><transcript><audio_236>that let's just my two cents you know adding to what I need to do I think we're going to talk about this a little bit more through about advocacy same thing applies right when when when you want to be an advocate you don't go to</transcript>
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<image_238>The image shows a man and a woman standing in a room with a projector screen in the background. The man is on the left side of the image and the woman is in the center. They are both facing the projector screen and appear to be giving a presentation. The woman is gesturing with her hands as if she is explaining something to the man. The room has a carpeted floor and there are empty chairs in the foreground. The image appears to be taken at night.
<transcript><audio_239>somebody you've never met before to say will you join me you go to somebody you've had at your table all along to say now it's time right we're going to move together you can't move together if you don't know each other so this idea</transcript><transcript><audio_240>of programming is a consistent reaching out to community perfect Maria thank you and I think there was a point in time where I was running an organization that brought on a significant amount of Arts education advocacy</transcript><video>
<image_241>The image shows a man standing in front of a projector screen in a conference room. He is wearing a suit and appears to be giving a presentation. The room has a carpeted floor and there are rows of chairs in the background. On the screen, there is text that reads "What is the purpose of the presentation? What is the definition of a presentation?" The man is looking down at the screen with a serious expression on his face.

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</video><transcript><audio_243>and in order to do the work in order to run the campaigns um you had to expand well beyond you had to expand well beyond the issue the primary issue you were concerned with so corollary to this is expanding</transcript> engagement that your organization and your program really reflects them as well their voice as well that there can be a true interculturality in in what you do and that let's just my two cents you know adding to what I need to do I think we're going to talk about this a little bit more through about advocacy same thing applies right when when when you want to be an advocate you don't go to somebody you've never met before to say will you join me you go to somebody you've had at your table all along to say now it's time right we're going to move together you can't move together if you don't know each other so this idea of programming is a consistent reaching out to community perfect Maria thank you and I think there was a point in time where I was running an organization that brought on a significant amount of Arts education advocacy and in order to do the work in order to run the campaigns um you had to expand well beyond you had to expand well beyond the issue the primary issue you were concerned with so corollary to this is expanding


<transcript><audio_244>Beyond a particular Repertory or a very narrow kind of mission so for there was a point in time and it was funny because I was talking about it with my wife very early this morning about 12 years ago I remember on Martin Luther King day um on a very cold day in New York going</transcript> Beyond a particular Repertory or a very narrow kind of mission so for there was a point in time and it was funny because I was talking about it with my wife very early this morning about 12 years ago I remember on Martin Luther King day um on a very cold day in New York going


<image_245>The image shows a man standing in a dimly lit room. He is wearing a dark blue sweater and appears to be in his late twenties or early thirties. He has short dark hair and is looking off to the side with a serious expression on his face. In the background, there are empty chairs and a red jacket hanging on one of them. The overall mood of the image is somber and contemplative.
<transcript><audio_246>to a rally that was being run by a group of churches and a group of organizations including the United Federation of teachers in New York and while the issue wasn't specifically Arts education it was embedded within it I remember being</transcript><video>
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</video><transcript><audio_249>at this larger rally of people I was getting to know and or people I was becoming comfortable with who had other issues that were sort of connected but emerging from that were</transcript><transcript><audio_250>over the next couple of years allies there were people who would show up to our rallies and I and we would show up to their rallies and we became part of a larger Community when we needed people to sign on to Statewide campaigns and we</transcript><transcript><audio_251>needed to show broad-based support that could never have come to the issue they were only working with the Arts education organizations and those solely interested in arts education but when the teacher Union start signing on when the charter schools start signing on</transcript> to a rally that was being run by a group of churches and a group of organizations including the United Federation of teachers in New York and while the issue wasn't specifically Arts education it was embedded within it I remember being at this larger rally of people I was getting to know and or people I was becoming comfortable with who had other issues that were sort of connected but emerging from that were over the next couple of years allies there were people who would show up to our rallies and I and we would show up to their rallies and we became part of a larger Community when we needed people to sign on to Statewide campaigns and we needed to show broad-based support that could never have come to the issue they were only working with the Arts education organizations and those solely interested in arts education but when the teacher Union start signing on when the charter schools start signing on


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<transcript><audio_253>when people who are interested in Health Women's issues a whole range of things to start signing on it it could only have come by us being willing to leave behind what we sort of Saw as our tight</transcript><transcript><audio_254>core foundational interest and there's something in that shift the mindset that it requires to to be able to do that yep okay so here we are talking about Galaxy</transcript><transcript><audio_255>how was your community right how would your supporters Define you in terms of advocacy are you defined you have definition do</transcript><video>
<image_256>The image shows a woman standing in front of a projector screen with a presentation on it. She is wearing a black jacket and appears to be in a classroom or lecture hall. The projector screen has text on it that reads "Are the opportunity for government in civic organizations?" and there is a whiteboard with writing on it next to her. The woman is looking directly at the camera with a serious expression on her face.

<image_257>The image shows a woman standing in front of a projector screen in a classroom. She is wearing a black jacket and appears to be speaking into a microphone. On the screen, there is text that reads "What are the opportunity involvement in civic?" and there is a whiteboard next to her with notes on it. The background is dark, suggesting that the photo was taken in the evening.
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<image_258>The image shows a woman standing in front of a projector screen with the words "Leadership and celebrations?" written on it. She appears to be giving a presentation or presentation, as she is looking towards the screen with a serious expression on her face. The background is dark, and the focus is on the woman's face.

<image_259>The image shows a young woman with long blonde hair, standing in front of a projector screen. She is facing away from the camera, with her head tilted slightly to the side. The screen behind her displays text that reads "What are involved in leadership and celebration". The image appears to be taken in a dimly lit room, with the focus on the woman's face.

<image_260>The image shows a woman sitting in front of a projector screen with a presentation slide on it. The slide has text on it that reads "What are the origins of involvement in the development of people?" The woman appears to be deep in thought, with her head tilted slightly to the side. She is wearing a black jacket and her hair is pulled back in a ponytail. The background is dark, suggesting that the presentation is taking place in a dimly lit room.

<image_261>The image shows a young woman with long blonde hair, standing in front of a projector screen. She is facing away from the camera, with her head tilted slightly to the side. The screen behind her displays text that reads "What are the opportunity, involvement in civilization?" The woman appears to be deep in thought, with a contemplative expression on her face. The image is taken from a low angle, with the focus on the woman's face and the screen.
</video><transcript><audio_262>you have do you feel that you stand for something this gets back to values let's get back to Shared values Community shared values as opposed to service that many May some of you may feel that you're known by service providing</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_264>artistic services but what values what what I mean as an artist I would say unity in peace</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_266>lovely unifying people I mean I have a project called pianos for peace where we put just pianos all over and yeah lovely the best Organization no but it's but it doesn't matter because it's a human's interest it's it's value that you're</transcript> when people who are interested in Health Women's issues a whole range of things to start signing on it it could only have come by us being willing to leave behind what we sort of Saw as our tight core foundational interest and there's something in that shift the mindset that it requires to to be able to do that yep okay so here we are talking about Galaxy how was your community right how would your supporters Define you in terms of advocacy are you defined you have definition do you have do you feel that you stand for something this gets back to values let's get back to Shared values Community shared values as opposed to service that many May some of you may feel that you're known by service providing artistic services but what values what what I mean as an artist I would say unity in peace lovely unifying people I mean I have a project called pianos for peace where we put just pianos all over and yeah lovely the best Organization no but it's but it doesn't matter because it's a human's interest it's it's value that you're


<transcript><audio_267>projecting and that you're sharing and it's not just a piano Exile correct not that there's anything wrong with that of course exactly yeah please I think our community looks at it as an</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_269>advocate for Performing Arts and that's what the organization brings to the community that they appreciate and we're in a out of the way kind of the middle</transcript><transcript><audio_270>range market and they would never have it if it were not for the organization bringing in the the Performing Arts that they do every year and and somebody else pointed out earlier when when the university itself is looking for</transcript><transcript><audio_271>professors or staff people they look to see what you have and if you don't have some version of that they say why would I want to come there because I enjoy the Arts so I think that's one of the things that I see that the entire organization brings to</transcript><video>
<image_272>The image shows a group of people standing in a crowded room. The focus of the image is on a young man in the center, who appears to be in his late twenties or early thirties. He is wearing a blue collared shirt and glasses and has a serious expression on his face. Behind him, there are other people, including a woman with blonde hair and a man with white hair. The background is blurred, but it seems to be an indoor space with a wooden wall. The people in the image are of different ages and genders, and they are all looking towards the man in front of him.

<image_273>The image shows a group of people sitting in a crowd. The people appear to be of different ages and genders, and they are all looking towards the camera. The background is blurred, but it appears to be an indoor space with other people visible. The focus of the image is on the people in the foreground, who are all wearing casual clothing. Some of them are wearing glasses, while others are wearing jackets. The image is taken from a low angle, looking up at the people.

<image_274>The image shows a large group of people sitting in a room with a projector screen in the background. The people are of different ages and genders, and they are all looking towards the projector screen. Some of them are standing, while others are sitting on chairs. The room appears to be a conference or event space, as there is a door visible in the back of the room. The image is slightly blurred, but it seems to be taken from a distance.

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</video><transcript><audio_276>you I I like to break that down I've decided that one sometimes when we talk about Arts people get what are they what does that mean so what so what you're in ourselves does that mean like you're married to a musician and he needs a job</transcript> projecting and that you're sharing and it's not just a piano Exile correct not that there's anything wrong with that of course exactly yeah please I think our community looks at it as an advocate for Performing Arts and that's what the organization brings to the community that they appreciate and we're in a out of the way kind of the middle range market and they would never have it if it were not for the organization bringing in the the Performing Arts that they do every year and and somebody else pointed out earlier when when the university itself is looking for professors or staff people they look to see what you have and if you don't have some version of that they say why would I want to come there because I enjoy the Arts so I think that's one of the things that I see that the entire organization brings to you I I like to break that down I've decided that one sometimes when we talk about Arts people get what are they what does that mean so what so what you're in ourselves does that mean like you're married to a musician and he needs a job


<transcript><audio_277>um what what is the value for that and you know and I I mean I've my own definitions have come Beauty and truth I mean these are the values you know artists bring Beauty and they bring truth sometimes the truth Isn't So Beautiful um but the rest of it is beauty right so</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_279>I mean I think that that when we talk about being an advocate and an Arts Advocate um what does that mean to people right so um so I love that your community sees you as that I would I would expand that</transcript><transcript><audio_280>conversation to say what does that mean with your board with your staff what is what does that mean so how do you articulate that out into the community</transcript><video>
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</video><transcript><audio_283>to some extent the way that we do it is non-school people and the students at the University</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_285>and our organization to work on the programming for the future here and the current programming so I I think including both get you both views and and you wind up with them</transcript> um what what is the value for that and you know and I I mean I've my own definitions have come Beauty and truth I mean these are the values you know artists bring Beauty and they bring truth sometimes the truth Isn't So Beautiful um but the rest of it is beauty right so I mean I think that that when we talk about being an advocate and an Arts Advocate um what does that mean to people right so um so I love that your community sees you as that I would I would expand that conversation to say what does that mean with your board with your staff what is what does that mean so how do you articulate that out into the community to some extent the way that we do it is non-school people and the students at the University and our organization to work on the programming for the future here and the current programming so I I think including both get you both views and and you wind up with them


<transcript><audio_286>feeling ownership both from the community outside the university and within the university yeah excellent</transcript><video>
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</video><transcript><audio_289>so creating new things and um Dallas you know is uh The Stereotype everything is bigger bigger and better in Dallas but</transcript><transcript><audio_290>um that you know is uh not the case and but developing new things we want to bring in new people new ideas and celebrate these new makings so in terms of the programming making new things and</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_292>the excitement I think there's also a tremendous opportunity to unpack that I think that's what Janet was looking for the ways in which it you know if you think through even you know planning that you do when you start to get into organizational values</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_294>and you take a look at what Innovation means in many different specs is it um to stimulate Innovation artistic innovation personal Innovation is it the artist you choose is it the ways in</transcript><video>
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</video><transcript><audio_297>which is it the way in which you get behind the art it is interesting to be able to move from something that's really sort of a meta-oriented term especially a term that's unfortunately become a little bit hackneyed and to be able to find ways to make it live to</transcript><video>
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</video><transcript><audio_303>animate that term and how it's not only animated through the programming but it's animated through the language that you use when you describe the program when you describe the organization and also in some ways it can become animated through the structures of the organization one of the board structures</transcript><transcript><audio_304>what are the community structures what are the friends structures like it can it can that stuff that can get pretty interesting if you decide to follow it and I think I just want to say too that I think the next step of that is I mean</transcript> feeling ownership both from the community outside the university and within the university yeah excellent so creating new things and um Dallas you know is uh The Stereotype everything is bigger bigger and better in Dallas but um that you know is uh not the case and but developing new things we want to bring in new people new ideas and celebrate these new makings so in terms of the programming making new things and the excitement I think there's also a tremendous opportunity to unpack that I think that's what Janet was looking for the ways in which it you know if you think through even you know planning that you do when you start to get into organizational values and you take a look at what Innovation means in many different specs is it um to stimulate Innovation artistic innovation personal Innovation is it the artist you choose is it the ways in which is it the way in which you get behind the art it is interesting to be able to move from something that's really sort of a meta-oriented term especially a term that's unfortunately become a little bit hackneyed and to be able to find ways to make it live to animate that term and how it's not only animated through the programming but it's animated through the language that you use when you describe the program when you describe the organization and also in some ways it can become animated through the structures of the organization one of the board structures what are the community structures what are the friends structures like it can it can that stuff that can get pretty interesting if you decide to follow it and I think I just want to say too that I think the next step of that is I mean


<transcript><audio_305>just like to add on to what you said the next step of that is to say to what end we're bringing in this Innovative New Idea new performance new artist New Concept to what and in your community</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_308>who is the target audience what do you want to have come out of that you want people to be educated you want them to be inspired you want to follow up with them I mean what it what is it I mean I'm just saying I'm I don't know but to what end is it I'm bringing this artist</transcript> just like to add on to what you said the next step of that is to say to what end we're bringing in this Innovative New Idea new performance new artist New Concept to what and in your community who is the target audience what do you want to have come out of that you want people to be educated you want them to be inspired you want to follow up with them I mean what it what is it I mean I'm just saying I'm I don't know but to what end is it I'm bringing this artist


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<transcript><audio_310>in to what end is it just because we want to hear a great cellist um and and but but maybe that's not the end maybe there is a you know then there are cello students then how do we affect them you know what I mean so this so</transcript><transcript><audio_311>that the so that we dig a Little Deeper about what kind why are we doing the kind of programming we're doing and how does it have a lasting impact or how does it address some of the values or some of the concerns of our community</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_313>okay so let's just Refresh on the question in terms of half an hour left okay good we're trying to shift this into advocacy</transcript><video>
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</video><transcript><audio_318>so let's let's focus that a little bit so I think that we actually could combine a couple of things here so it would be the question of what is your community how does your community understand you in terms of advocacy</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_320>and then if we couple the other piece that there are people in your community that do not get it on the what you're doing or don't feel that it connects to them and then it and then it starts to become a really interesting conversation when you begin to think of who are you connecting to who do you feel that</transcript> in to what end is it just because we want to hear a great cellist um and and but but maybe that's not the end maybe there is a you know then there are cello students then how do we affect them you know what I mean so this so that the so that we dig a Little Deeper about what kind why are we doing the kind of programming we're doing and how does it have a lasting impact or how does it address some of the values or some of the concerns of our community okay so let's just Refresh on the question in terms of half an hour left okay good we're trying to shift this into advocacy so let's let's focus that a little bit so I think that we actually could combine a couple of things here so it would be the question of what is your community how does your community understand you in terms of advocacy and then if we couple the other piece that there are people in your community that do not get it on the what you're doing or don't feel that it connects to them and then it and then it starts to become a really interesting conversation when you begin to think of who are you connecting to who do you feel that


<transcript><audio_321>there's a sort of pathway of relevancy to and from a two-way street at least and where do you feel that that's just not happening um and that gets into audience building and gets into community building so those two things either one</transcript> there's a sort of pathway of relevancy to and from a two-way street at least and where do you feel that that's just not happening um and that gets into audience building and gets into community building so those two things either one


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<transcript><audio_323>someone want to jump in with an audience or community that they don't feel you're you don't feel you're reaching please um we had a big audience shift a few years ago our little our group called The Friends of the Arts is like quality</transcript><transcript><audio_324>governmental it was started by a librarian who was really into classical music at a big Suburban Library she got some grant for seed money and she started bringing in performers mostly classical because she felt that this economically downtrodden Community</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_326>needed you know to be uplifted with classical music and that went on really well for like five maybe even eight years and then the concert attendance started really going down um I took over about five years ago and just tried to figure out what was going</transcript><transcript><audio_327>on why don't people want to come what's going on and start talking to some of the community leaders and they came to us and they said well you know these are great you know but we want we need something else like our school recently cut funding for the School Musical which</transcript><transcript><audio_328>was really important for this game a lot of kids and got involved and they asked us flat up like what can you do and we're like oh my God I have no idea like we can help you what do you need they're like well can you fund the rights to buy the musical performance and we have</transcript> someone want to jump in with an audience or community that they don't feel you're you don't feel you're reaching please um we had a big audience shift a few years ago our little our group called The Friends of the Arts is like quality governmental it was started by a librarian who was really into classical music at a big Suburban Library she got some grant for seed money and she started bringing in performers mostly classical because she felt that this economically downtrodden Community needed you know to be uplifted with classical music and that went on really well for like five maybe even eight years and then the concert attendance started really going down um I took over about five years ago and just tried to figure out what was going on why don't people want to come what's going on and start talking to some of the community leaders and they came to us and they said well you know these are great you know but we want we need something else like our school recently cut funding for the School Musical which was really important for this game a lot of kids and got involved and they asked us flat up like what can you do and we're like oh my God I have no idea like we can help you what do you need they're like well can you fund the rights to buy the musical performance and we have


<transcript><audio_329>volunteers that will produce it and from there it grew that our organization started um partnering with two other arts groups to actually help the students produce the School Musical and now the whole</transcript><transcript><audio_330>thing is self-supporting and it's all run by volunteers but we also started paying community members who act as producers choreographers and stuff so now we provide income for people in the community who are involved the families and the students come we do partner with</transcript><transcript><audio_331>the school they they still you know it's mostly students although we have some adults in the production but it's been a complete shift from us just scheduling classical music which is great but the community wasn't interested and they had a problem to solve and we didn't even know how to do it wig I don't know we'll</transcript> volunteers that will produce it and from there it grew that our organization started um partnering with two other arts groups to actually help the students produce the School Musical and now the whole thing is self-supporting and it's all run by volunteers but we also started paying community members who act as producers choreographers and stuff so now we provide income for people in the community who are involved the families and the students come we do partner with the school they they still you know it's mostly students although we have some adults in the production but it's been a complete shift from us just scheduling classical music which is great but the community wasn't interested and they had a problem to solve and we didn't even know how to do it wig I don't know we'll


<transcript><audio_332>give you some money do you want to try to start solving it and then that just grew so that was really exciting are you doing any classical music anymore no no it totally shifted the community like really said you know we're not interested we want to do something else</transcript> give you some money do you want to try to start solving it and then that just grew so that was really exciting are you doing any classical music anymore no no it totally shifted the community like really said you know we're not interested we want to do something else


<transcript><audio_333>we we want students involved you know we want this type of thing so it's been interesting this is and I think this is a um for for some for diagonal sort of Arts presenters um and older ones like me</transcript><transcript><audio_334>um this is a scary thing right this is the scary thing this is oh my God I'm going to ask my community what they want and need they're going to tell me and</transcript><caption><image_335>The image shows a man and a woman standing in a room with a projector screen on the right side of the image. The room appears to be a conference room with rows of empty chairs and a carpeted floor. The man is wearing a suit and is standing in front of the projector screen, while the woman is standing next to him with her hand on her hip. They are both looking at the screen and appear to be engaged in a discussion. The image is taken from a low angle, with the focus on the man and the woman.</caption><transcript><audio_336>then for God's sake it's not going to be of course you did come out of here forget it it's not what we do yeah 25 years ago I was doing a session on</transcript> we we want students involved you know we want this type of thing so it's been interesting this is and I think this is a um for for some for diagonal sort of Arts presenters um and older ones like me um this is a scary thing right this is the scary thing this is oh my God I'm going to ask my community what they want and need they're going to tell me and then for God's sake it's not going to be of course you did come out of here forget it it's not what we do yeah 25 years ago I was doing a session on


<caption><image_337>The image shows a man and a woman standing in a conference room. The room has a carpeted floor and rows of empty chairs. The man is wearing a blue sweater and the woman is standing in front of him. They appear to be engaged in a conversation. On the right side of the image, there is a projector screen with text on it. The image appears to be taken at night, as the room is dimly lit.</caption><transcript><audio_338>Rural Arts I I used to be a real Arts specialist but Rural and and this and it was a guy in the room who said I've been running this chamber music and God bless changes I've been running this chamber music um Richard serves on the board of the</transcript><transcript><audio_339>Chamber Of Music America um but but this guy said to me I'm in a small town in Mississippi we've been doing this concert series for 20 years 25 years I can't get more than 50 people to come 50 people and I said you know what there are 50 people in your</transcript><transcript><audio_340>community who like chamber music and your audience is not going to grow unless you do something else so do something else what's wrong with you I mean it was like it doesn't mean I mean it doesn't mean you have to stop doing chamber music forever but it also</transcript> Rural Arts I I used to be a real Arts specialist but Rural and and this and it was a guy in the room who said I've been running this chamber music and God bless changes I've been running this chamber music um Richard serves on the board of the Chamber Of Music America um but but this guy said to me I'm in a small town in Mississippi we've been doing this concert series for 20 years 25 years I can't get more than 50 people to come 50 people and I said you know what there are 50 people in your community who like chamber music and your audience is not going to grow unless you do something else so do something else what's wrong with you I mean it was like it doesn't mean I mean it doesn't mean you have to stop doing chamber music forever but it also


<transcript><audio_341>means that you're not you're not addressing you know you're not addressing what your community really wants or needs and that's why well uh you know I mean we're not there just to educate we're not there to just say What's it no</transcript><transcript><audio_342>no let me start over there we sometimes have this misperception that we know what the best art is for everyone else</transcript><transcript><audio_343>and that has led us down a sneaky sneaky very isolated at this moment path and if we don't stop thinking that and start opening our doors to you you're feeling this you have to feel this more</transcript><transcript><audio_344>than I do because I don't run one of your organizations um and unless you have sold out performances every performance you have and great for you um but if you don't there's something missing and it probably is what do</transcript><transcript><audio_345>people really want to see and how can I really address those all those concerns celebrating in my community Civic concerns of my community what populations in my community I want to jump all right we'll jump in with one other</transcript> means that you're not you're not addressing you know you're not addressing what your community really wants or needs and that's why well uh you know I mean we're not there just to educate we're not there to just say What's it no no let me start over there we sometimes have this misperception that we know what the best art is for everyone else and that has led us down a sneaky sneaky very isolated at this moment path and if we don't stop thinking that and start opening our doors to you you're feeling this you have to feel this more than I do because I don't run one of your organizations um and unless you have sold out performances every performance you have and great for you um but if you don't there's something missing and it probably is what do people really want to see and how can I really address those all those concerns celebrating in my community Civic concerns of my community what populations in my community I want to jump all right we'll jump in with one other


<transcript><audio_346>thing just also tagging on I think the beauty of the time and you must be feeling it from the conference or other conferences is that the range the the breadth of</transcript><transcript><audio_347>work being mounted today by artists in all disciplines is so much broader and so much wider on an increasingly almost day by day there are more artists Adept in whether it's K-12 or artists who are</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_349>Adept in Civic issues political issues there are artists Adept in creating work together with communities there are traditional artists there are technology-based artists there are multi-disciplinary artists multi-genre</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_351>artists so the one one of the saving Graces in this today is it's easier to be able to you might not have to leave classical music behind in the way we talked about because the range of artists today who might be doing</transcript><transcript><audio_352>classical music and Music Theater at in a combined way so that's one of the beauties of being at this conference and one of the beauties of being someone who's working towards finding a way that the art can fulfill a broader Mission you have more to choose from the</transcript> thing just also tagging on I think the beauty of the time and you must be feeling it from the conference or other conferences is that the range the the breadth of work being mounted today by artists in all disciplines is so much broader and so much wider on an increasingly almost day by day there are more artists Adept in whether it's K-12 or artists who are Adept in Civic issues political issues there are artists Adept in creating work together with communities there are traditional artists there are technology-based artists there are multi-disciplinary artists multi-genre artists so the one one of the saving Graces in this today is it's easier to be able to you might not have to leave classical music behind in the way we talked about because the range of artists today who might be doing classical music and Music Theater at in a combined way so that's one of the beauties of being at this conference and one of the beauties of being someone who's working towards finding a way that the art can fulfill a broader Mission you have more to choose from the


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<transcript><audio_354>material is unlike anything ever before um please yeah I guess I may be kind of an opposite side because my organization is all of this but without any money um and has been for 30 years</transcript><transcript><audio_355>I run I run a theater program at as220 in Providence Rhode Island um which is been around for 30 years sticking to its guns with an unjuried uncensored all ages all original policy based specifically on community concerns</transcript><video>
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</video><transcript><audio_359>consistently changing based on like the needs of the community but because of that we also um at this point we have four four buildings that we only operate because we own and operate them we're able to</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_361>like magically skirt buy things but part of our mission is to program everything in anything so we're built to lose money to have shows that had five people in an audience but we don't have enough money to support that in a long-term way even</transcript><transcript><audio_362>though it's part of the mission um and so our biggest question is arguments like concerns or how to get more of a financial base because we are doing all of these things but we're always scrambling you know I run the</transcript> material is unlike anything ever before um please yeah I guess I may be kind of an opposite side because my organization is all of this but without any money um and has been for 30 years I run I run a theater program at as220 in Providence Rhode Island um which is been around for 30 years sticking to its guns with an unjuried uncensored all ages all original policy based specifically on community concerns consistently changing based on like the needs of the community but because of that we also um at this point we have four four buildings that we only operate because we own and operate them we're able to like magically skirt buy things but part of our mission is to program everything in anything so we're built to lose money to have shows that had five people in an audience but we don't have enough money to support that in a long-term way even though it's part of the mission um and so our biggest question is arguments like concerns or how to get more of a financial base because we are doing all of these things but we're always scrambling you know I run the


<transcript><audio_363>theater building I'm the only full-time person I do 250 shows by myself so like the and it is so Community oriented and we're now also shifting to specifically look at communities of color and the community is the problems that have</transcript> theater building I'm the only full-time person I do 250 shows by myself so like the and it is so Community oriented and we're now also shifting to specifically look at communities of color and the community is the problems that have


<transcript><audio_364>become but it takes years in order for those audiences to develop and I see it in an open before my eyes but I know that it won't completely be there unless there is a time period financially funded for those audiences to build even</transcript><transcript><audio_365>if you're doing everything right um I this is you know this is a real issue I mean we've been spending a lot of time with Brittany Grant makers in the Arts talking about capitalization what does it mean for an organization to</transcript><transcript><audio_366>be well capitalized what can funders do to help you um and what have they done to not help you which has been some cultural norms of the past that are trying to get over um but but I would have to what I would</transcript><caption><image_367>The image shows a man and a woman standing in a dimly lit room with their arms crossed. The woman is on the left side of the image, facing the man on the right side. She is wearing a green sweater and has shoulder-length blonde hair. The man is also wearing a purple sweater and is looking at the woman with a serious expression on his face. The room appears to be empty, with only a few empty chairs visible in the background. The lighting is dim, creating a moody atmosphere.</caption><transcript><audio_368>would I if I were a consult advisor I would say stay your course and what you need is Administrative help what you need is is to convince somebody whether it's a institutional funder or whether it's a somebody with some money to say</transcript><transcript><audio_369>if I had two more staff people if I had one more staff person these are the kinds of programs that I could do so investing in your own organization to be able to to make to to continue to make</transcript> become but it takes years in order for those audiences to develop and I see it in an open before my eyes but I know that it won't completely be there unless there is a time period financially funded for those audiences to build even if you're doing everything right um I this is you know this is a real issue I mean we've been spending a lot of time with Brittany Grant makers in the Arts talking about capitalization what does it mean for an organization to be well capitalized what can funders do to help you um and what have they done to not help you which has been some cultural norms of the past that are trying to get over um but but I would have to what I would would I if I were a consult advisor I would say stay your course and what you need is Administrative help what you need is is to convince somebody whether it's a institutional funder or whether it's a somebody with some money to say if I had two more staff people if I had one more staff person these are the kinds of programs that I could do so investing in your own organization to be able to to make to to continue to make


<transcript><audio_370>do the same programming but to continue to get the word out about that programming so that you can get funded to do it so oftentimes we don't do that enough we don't we don't say I mean you wanting 250 programs is crazy right it's</transcript><transcript><audio_371>crazy okay so yeah so somehow you know that yeah so I mean so what we're saying is that I don't think I mean I think you're on the right track I think there's money out there to do that you need to not create more programs you need to create an infrastructure and a</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_373>stable administrative environment to to run a business right it's the business okay good that's um I'm married with grand performances in Los Angeles and we've been a free</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_375>summer concert series for over 30 years and we've lost over a quarter million dollars over the past few years because funders have shifted to this answering this call but we are not doing something different because we've been doing it all along</transcript><transcript><audio_376>and I don't know how you can help us sort of navigate and maybe claim that Legacy um because we're not the the traditional Pac that's now now going and doing</transcript><transcript><audio_377>community work I don't know if you do well I I know it very well because I um part of what I do is I've gone out on Classical Music Conservatory so um I certainly understand the issue what happens is and I think it's connected to</transcript><video>
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</video> do the same programming but to continue to get the word out about that programming so that you can get funded to do it so oftentimes we don't do that enough we don't we don't say I mean you wanting 250 programs is crazy right it's crazy okay so yeah so somehow you know that yeah so I mean so what we're saying is that I don't think I mean I think you're on the right track I think there's money out there to do that you need to not create more programs you need to create an infrastructure and a stable administrative environment to to run a business right it's the business okay good that's um I'm married with grand performances in Los Angeles and we've been a free summer concert series for over 30 years and we've lost over a quarter million dollars over the past few years because funders have shifted to this answering this call but we are not doing something different because we've been doing it all along and I don't know how you can help us sort of navigate and maybe claim that Legacy um because we're not the the traditional Pac that's now now going and doing community work I don't know if you do well I I know it very well because I um part of what I do is I've gone out on Classical Music Conservatory so um I certainly understand the issue what happens is and I think it's connected to


<transcript><audio_384>so much of what we're talking about for any organization things change over time I think that it's so critical to look at the external world I have faculty who would like to see the program not change at all and they believe that the traditional</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_386>instruction for the last 60 years is over the last 160 years is all that's necessary to create an appropriate and effective artist at the same time what happens is if you look around the world and you look at what artists are being</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_388>asked to know and be able to do what do they need to know in technology what do they need to know in doing their own recordings writing their Grant proposals working in communities being affected from the stage in terms of communications multi-disciplinary work what's happened</transcript> so much of what we're talking about for any organization things change over time I think that it's so critical to look at the external world I have faculty who would like to see the program not change at all and they believe that the traditional instruction for the last 60 years is over the last 160 years is all that's necessary to create an appropriate and effective artist at the same time what happens is if you look around the world and you look at what artists are being asked to know and be able to do what do they need to know in technology what do they need to know in doing their own recordings writing their Grant proposals working in communities being affected from the stage in terms of communications multi-disciplinary work what's happened


<caption><image_389>The image shows a man and a woman standing side by side in a dimly lit room. The woman is on the left side of the image, with her hand on her chin and appears to be deep in thought. She is wearing a green sweater and has shoulder-length blonde hair. The man on the right side is also wearing a purple sweater and a blue shirt. They are both looking at each other and appear to be engaged in a conversation. The background is a plain white wall.</caption><transcript><audio_390>is you run into sort of an interesting moment where you have to I believe that you have to find ways to evolve and I think that you can honor traditions and I think that you can maintain Traditions but at the same time I think that you</transcript><transcript><audio_391>have to take a look at the world around you and be willing to innovate from within the tradition maintaining it but finding ways to change it I would also add I think it's important for it may be harder for</transcript><transcript><audio_392>presenters I'm not sure but I think every organization has to have some experiment you have to have some place of research and development to try something to let it fail to try a different maybe it is a big departure</transcript><transcript><audio_393>maybe you create a couple of things that are really extraordinary departures just to see what happens and what it tells you and what you learn from it and I think that in a way what I would argue is all organizations are learning organizations they have to be learning organizations</transcript><transcript><audio_394>and you have to be looking at those kinds of Loops of doing new things of assessing or evaluating and changing and while it's not the most concrete do X and you'll get Y in terms of do X and you'll get y dollars I think that it's</transcript> is you run into sort of an interesting moment where you have to I believe that you have to find ways to evolve and I think that you can honor traditions and I think that you can maintain Traditions but at the same time I think that you have to take a look at the world around you and be willing to innovate from within the tradition maintaining it but finding ways to change it I would also add I think it's important for it may be harder for presenters I'm not sure but I think every organization has to have some experiment you have to have some place of research and development to try something to let it fail to try a different maybe it is a big departure maybe you create a couple of things that are really extraordinary departures just to see what happens and what it tells you and what you learn from it and I think that in a way what I would argue is all organizations are learning organizations they have to be learning organizations and you have to be looking at those kinds of Loops of doing new things of assessing or evaluating and changing and while it's not the most concrete do X and you'll get Y in terms of do X and you'll get y dollars I think that it's


<transcript><audio_395>it's more of a deep-seated issue of assessment reflection um and appropriate change and it's my best shot at an answer to that question yeah I I I think too if you're if you're not hooked into a revenue source</transcript> it's more of a deep-seated issue of assessment reflection um and appropriate change and it's my best shot at an answer to that question yeah I I I think too if you're if you're not hooked into a revenue source


<transcript><audio_396>like a college that budget is for you which is always nice if you're raising your own dollars um and you are having trouble at the moment seriously need to rethink what you're doing because times they are a changes to</transcript><caption><image_397>The image shows a man and a woman standing in a dimly lit room. The woman is on the left side of the image and the man on the right is in the center. They are facing each other and appear to be engaged in a conversation. The man is wearing a purple sweater and has short dark hair. The background is a plain white wall. The image appears to be taken from a low angle, with the focus on the two people in the foreground.</caption> like a college that budget is for you which is always nice if you're raising your own dollars um and you are having trouble at the moment seriously need to rethink what you're doing because times they are a changes to


<transcript><audio_398>think about um it's a it's a it's a new world out there with funders and it's a new world out there with individual supporters maybe not this year maybe not five or seven years from now but in 10 years from now</transcript><transcript><audio_399>or 15 or 20 years from now the donors who we're giving to you now are going to be dead and their children right so this idea of relevance how do</transcript><transcript><audio_400>you well how are you building Community how are you supporting Community who's not in your audience who needs to be in the audience those kinds of questions need to be talked about now with your institution before you discover that uh oh oh</transcript><transcript><audio_401>everyone's everyone's gone and where did they go you know particularly when it comes to your friends yeah I just want to like tag on to that and they said that by 2018</transcript> think about um it's a it's a it's a new world out there with funders and it's a new world out there with individual supporters maybe not this year maybe not five or seven years from now but in 10 years from now or 15 or 20 years from now the donors who we're giving to you now are going to be dead and their children right so this idea of relevance how do you well how are you building Community how are you supporting Community who's not in your audience who needs to be in the audience those kinds of questions need to be talked about now with your institution before you discover that uh oh oh everyone's everyone's gone and where did they go you know particularly when it comes to your friends yeah I just want to like tag on to that and they said that by 2018


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<transcript><audio_403>the Millennials will surpass the Baby Boomers under disposable income so that's how quickly we have to like switch the world around them um Baby Boomers and Gen X are being in</transcript><video>
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</video><transcript><audio_407>I mean I would point out just to think about it in a really concrete way um Comcast today owns NBC so the the sort of the you know if you think about it the cable provider which used to be minimal</transcript>
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<transcript><audio_409>now owns the contract provider the broadcaster at the same time I think it's they're talking about something like 30 of people have um cut the cord and are using cables so if that's one and you know this stuff related this is</transcript> the Millennials will surpass the Baby Boomers under disposable income so that's how quickly we have to like switch the world around them um Baby Boomers and Gen X are being in I mean I would point out just to think about it in a really concrete way um Comcast today owns NBC so the the sort of the you know if you think about it the cable provider which used to be minimal now owns the contract provider the broadcaster at the same time I think it's they're talking about something like 30 of people have um cut the cord and are using cables so if that's one and you know this stuff related this is