Mike Graham is a loud mouth radio host employed by Talk Radio, which is part of the Rupert Murdock Empire. It's always been clear, Mike Graham is a little dear. I've met him before, I've tussled with him on social media. But an interview this week takes the stupidity to a new level. This is Mike speaking to insulate Britain activist Cameron. Morning Mike. Hello, what do you glue to Cameron? Just your screen unfortunately. Unfortunately, what do you do for a living Cameron? I'm a carpenter. A carpenter, right? So how safe is that for the climate? Well, I work with Timber, which is a much more sustainable material rather than concrete. I also work with trees that have been cut down than don't you? It's a sustainable building practice. How is it sustainable if you're killing trees? Because it's regenerative, you can grow trees. Right. Well, you can grow all sorts of things going. Well, you can't grow concrete. You can. See you Cameron, cheerio. That was Cameron. He grows trees and then cuts them down and then makes things from them. Brilliant, meldous. I don't think I ever want to talk to any of those people. I watched that clip so many times. It's now got 10 million views on Twitter. Sometimes you think, oh, it's probably not 10 million people. This time I'm sure it's not 10 million people because I've watched that clip like 20 times now. It's addictive. It's addictive. To watch Foxcombe play it again, please. Morning Mike. Hello, what do you glue to Cameron? Just your screen unfortunately. Unfortunately, what do you do for a living Cameron? I'm a carpenter. A carpenter. Right. So how safe is that for the climate? Well, I work with timber, which is a much more sustainable material rather than concrete. I also work with trees that have been cut down than you. It's a sustainable building practice. How is it sustainable if you're killing trees? Because it's regenerative. You can grow trees. Right. Well, you can grow all sorts of things going. Well, you can't grow concrete. That's a silent moment where he just looks at the camera. Terrier. That was Cameron. He grows trees and then cuts them down and then makes things from the brilliant. Love us. I don't think I ever want to talk to any of those people. I don't think I ever want to talk to any of those people. I don't want people who just, you know, carpenter. He doesn't want to talk to carpenter. Just anti-carpenter. Bigger tree that is just rife. I mean, also firstly, this video is it's redominated my relationship over the past two days because all my partner wants to do is just watch this video. I'm just like, can we please have dinner? And he's just like, there's just one more time. Like, let's just talk about like how I make, firstly, also this guy should do media training. It didn't occur to me that I could just not say anything and just let them like hang themselves with their own rope. But I just, what I find so funny about it is that talk radio posted it. Like, what? I refuse to believe that that was not posted by like a disgruntled employee trying to troll Mike Graham. Because how could you possibly watch that and not be like, oh, this makes our entire channel and our flagship host look like a clown? So the original tweet says, no, Mike's interview of insolat Britain spokesman Cameron lasts less than a minute. And then they follow that up with watch more insulate Britain fails on YouTube. That was not an insulate Britain fail. That was my Crayon talk radio fail because he thought you could grow concrete. I don't think to have an opinion on how the government should respond to climate change. You have to work in a green industry. Well, people have different kinds of jobs. But this guy had specifically a very, very green job. He works in a green architectural practice, which is based on sustainable wood where you grow the wood that absorbs the carbon. Then you created it into timber, use it instead of concrete. That's actually a carbon sink because until you burn that, that wood, which will hopefully never happen. Then it will never return to the atmosphere. So that's that's actively removing carbon from the atmosphere. But Mike Graham was, I suppose, just to, to dim to work that out. He has been sort of trying to, he went on the radio on talk radio again later saying, no concrete can grow because it can expand, which makes absolutely no sense.