Mr. Oby, thank you so much for being with us. You are certainly the most popular presidential candidate in Nigeria right now among young people. There is just so much momentum behind you. But here's the problem. Nigerians are used to being disappointed by their leaders. And when you think about some of the problems that are facing the country right now, they're systemic. I'm talking about corruption. I'm talking about oil theft. I'm talking about insecurity. I'm talking about the fiscal hole that Nigeria is in right now. Can all of that really be solved by one person? Well, if you have a leader that is competent, have the capacity and commitment to start dealing with it, you're not going to solve it overnight. But there will be a clear, visible, measurable attempt to deal with it. And they are not the things that are so vulnerable. The things that can be dealt with decisively. But you have to have a leader that if you look at what is being able to do in the past, you can say yes. If indeed you do become Nigerians next problem. Well, I want to come to the next problem. President. Well, it's broke. It is barely able to service its debts. It spends so much more than it earns. What are your plans? Just from a concrete perspective, what are your plans to take Nigeria's economy off of life support? Well, a variety of things. One is that you have to deal decisively with the issue of security. It is impacting negatively on your economy today. You have to deal with it, head on, because you have to get your farmers to go back to farm and start ensuring that the vast land of the north are invested, cultivated on. You have to start pulling people out of poverty as quickly as possible. You have to reduce aggressively cost of governance and deal with issue of corruption. Anyone who knows anything about Nigeria knows that it has this embarrassing reputation of despite the fact that it is Africa's largest oil producer, it imports refined fuel. What is your plan for transforming Nigeria's economy from a consumption economy to a production economy? Let me use this issue of white, for example. There is no reason why our refineries cannot work. There is no reason why we should not encourage private sector to build refineries and operate them. And I know rocket science can be done as quickly as possible. We can use today's recital to remove the fresh subsidy, use the resources to support a critical area of production from critical infrastructure to education to supporting investment and refineries. A lot of Nigerian presidents have come in and talked about revitalising the manufacturing sector, investing in refineries, but change, as you know, has been very, very slow. Why is it going to be different with you and what would you say were the biggest hurdles in making sure that all of the things that you've just listed come to pass? Well, what people need to do is to look at what are promised as a state governor when I said I'm going to turn around education, help pull people out of poverty, bring sanity and civility in governance in unambusted, whether it happened or not. When I said we are going to save money, did we do that? I want to talk about one of the other sort of major issues that Nigeria is dealing with, grappling with right now, and that is of course violence and insecurity. You can barely travel from one part of Nigeria to another without fearing for your life. And I'm talking about kidnapping, I'm talking about banditry, I'm talking about terrorism, I'm talking about Boko Haram. What is your plan for that? You know, I just said that initially that what we need to face down is issue of security, unless you have security, the farmers can go back, you can't have platinum investments, nobody will ever want to go to an insecure place. And you can deal with that. It is so many, you need to do a lot of work reorganize your security architecture and show that it's mountain level policing. It's sure that the police has to be decisive with that. And so many things you need to do, you need to bring more personnel into the security system, equip them properly and show that they are probably motivated to deal with issues of security because they need it is the most important thing that Nigeria needs today. As you know, you and I both Nigeria and we're both e-boes, we're both from South East and Nigeria. Nigeria is a very hard country to hold together. We've got 200 million people, so many different tribes, so many different competing interests and ideas. And when you think about the fact that you're from the South East, how easy is it going to be to rally Nigerian spouts from the north behind you? That's got to be on your mind. That is what it was yesterday, another problem because we have been able to elect people based on ethnicity, religion, my tone, connection, or one form of bias or the other, which brought us to where we are or structure, which always say structure of criminality. That is what we want to dismantle now and ensure that the next election is based on character, capacity, competence, commitment to do the right thing. Nigeria is not just a physical man, it is at the last stage to collapse. The people in the north don't have a secure place, they don't have good roads, they don't buy bread, cheaper than people in the South. So is the people in the South. So all you hear about ethnicity, religion, connection, my tone is illicit conspiracy to keep Nigeria underdeveloped, but now we've reached the edge, we can no longer continue this way. Mr. Obi, thank you so much for joining us on the program. Thank you for having me, thank you.