Well, at the moment I'm doing just promotion and stuff. And then after that, I think I'll see if I can get a band together. So then, probably two. I don't like schlepping around the hotels, though. I don't like the sort of endless hotel rooms and sort of, because you sit in there and you have a great successful concert, hopefully anyway. And you sit in there and you eat in the half a cheese sandwich curled up at the edge, so this is what it's all about. Fame. You know, it's, it's like, it tastes the edge off in a little bit. So, but I do like performing. How'd you enjoy performing? Let it be at Live Aid. How was it for you? It was very good. I enjoyed it a lot, except my microphone went off. Just sort of funny, really, because I was, it was very, it was kind of loosely organised the show. And, but because it was for charity and because it was all going to do such a great thing, nobody seemed to mind, really. So I just found the piano. It was the first I'd seen it. So, where's the piano? Someone said that. So I kind of found that and sort of sat down and said, you know, time to go. So I rode, kind of went, go. Okay. So I started off, you know. And I couldn't hear anything. Oh, I thought, well, wait a minute. Should I stop? And I noticed the monitor wasn't working near me. And that's not unusual. Really, often those things don't work. So I thought, now this is the BBC. This is world coverage. They're bound to have it. Someone's got it, you know, on another feed. This is bound to be on. I can't stop him from all these people. So I'm going away. I need to be. I need to be. And I hear the audience go, hey! On one of the lines, I think they've got the significance of that line. Good. Turned up the only line they heard. I know some people who were at the Philadelphia concert and they said, we didn't notice. Sounded like the mic was on to us. So I was lucky, where he's going to go over that. And in fact, I didn't interview some fellow the other day. He said, he was German. He said, we saw it. It was a very warm moment. Schumann. I said, well, that suits me. Schumann, put it down to Schumann. You recently performed at the Prince Charles Charity Trust. Yeah. The Tina Turner thing and get back, that must have been exciting. That was great fun. The mic stayed on. So that was really a plus. That was really brilliant. I really enjoyed that show. Because they kind of said to me, you're going to do it. Last minute and stuff. And I said, well, I haven't got a band. They said, well, you've got one. And we've got Phil Carlos, Elton Jones, and Nott Flut Eric Clapton. Millions of great people. A lot of the people I admire. And so that was something you just wanted to be at. You know, and it was kind of honor to be asked. So I did Sora standing there and Long Tool, Sally. And then they threw in, get back when we arrived, when I arrived on the day. They said, let's do get back. I said, I don't know the words. So that was quickly what sent out for a song folio. Joljol words and man. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I've got it now. And then Tina sings the wrong words anyway. She didn't care. She sings sweet and a rat of Morgan. It's Martin Tina. I didn't tell her on the day. I thought, well, it sounds good. Morgan. Martin. So different. I love Tina anyway. She's a wonderful person. I mean, I've admired her for years. So it's just a great thrill. And I'll tell you what, singing with her, boy, she lifts you because she's just so into it that you just, woo, this is such fun. A lot of the people that you started out with in the 60s are very hot right now. Eric Clapton. Steve, one would, the Moody Blues. These are not 18-year-olds that are, you know, number one. Are you surprised to see them? I'm not surprised, Rudy. You know, I think the nice thing is that staying par, you know, if you're good, you go out of fashion. People think you're a bit boring and you have not too good an album or something, but if you're good, you can come back, you know, and it's not everyone that is good. You know, there's a lot of people aspiring to be good and stuff. I think a lot of the younger groups, particularly in the 70s, had a lot of problems because they couldn't actually play. They could look good and they could, you know, maybe sing good. There's not that easy to play that guitar, you know? That's difficult to find you. And once you've got, you want to know your way around the fretboard, it's actually very difficult to string it together in a professional way. Anyone could want to. Band-gain, don't do it. But to go do, you know, well, we get that technique together. Sometimes takes 20 years to do. It's very helpful, you know. To me, it's very good, very supportive in my life. I keep expecting, you know, with kids, you keep expecting them to turn around and sort of say, you know, your music thinks we're into this, you know? Which you do expect and everyone's expects it too. The interviewers always sort of say, and, you know, your kids tell you they don't like you. But mine seem to be very supportive and they seem to like their old dad, you know? What about... What about being married for 17 years? What about it? It's pretty incredible. Yeah. For anybody. Guinness Book of Records time. It's, yeah, we're surprised constantly, you know, because, I mean, they did always say that when you kind of get past 40, like, the years, and to flick by, and they'd really do. God, it's terrifying. So, you know, 17 years, yeah, she's a great woman, very strong woman, very misunderstood. Because when she does interviews, tends to tense up, because she's not really as a professional person that way. She's not used to being in the public eye. She used to be behind the camera. She's a lot easier than actually sitting there and explaining, trying to justify living. I'm okay, honestly, you know? So whenever she gets in front of a camera, she does tend to be very serious and talk about issues that concern her deeply. Which a lot of people like, with some people, I think, take it as hardness and a sort of coldness, which is the very opposite of how she is. Oh, she's a great cook, great mother. She's a good girl. How do you see yourself primarily, or what, or your family, man musician, songwriter? What, where, and that, do you find it? You sound good. Yes, you know, I think in my early days, I would have naturally put art first. But when you get kids, when you get married and when you get kids, some people still keep the art first. But then, where does that leave the kids, you know? And they're kind of living, breathing, real people, you know, and they need attention. So I always put them before music, really. Much as I love music. If it's a choice, there's no contest. Do your kids sing with you at all when you travel? Yeah, I think they're a little self-conscious of kind of singing with me, because, you know, anyone else around, here's, it says, Ah, you know, he's taking after his dad, or he's taking after him. But they've each, one of them, they can sing, they can sing in tune. But I really don't push them to do anything, you know. I just like to let the natural thing come out. So they, we do a little bit of some pieces. You know, we made up songs one morning. I've got a little home studio. We're on holiday and, uh, I said, let's still make up a song. So, Stellas was very like something out the Wizard of Oz. Mary's was a bit more original, pretty good, actually. I immediately snapped up the publishing on that one. No, I didn't really, just joke for you. Um, and Heather's was a punk number. Taken from a tin of baby milk, which is called SMA, and it's got all the ingredients. She read all the ingredients to a punk backing. She's great. It's just, you know, a lune. What if they come home and say, Dad, we're, want to be rockers, we want to be punkers, put razor blades in our nose. They've done it already. Like, did it. This is my 23 year old, went through a phase of, uh, punk. Which, you've got to allow, you know, you can't say, hey, no, you know, you can't grow your hair long, good stuff, because that's what we went through. So I always knew when, when that came up, I'd have to like allow it. Doesn't mean you're going to like it. Or not worry about it, because, I mean, what happens is you make sure understand what your own parents went through when you have kids. Because, you know, I could never understand why my dad didn't want me to wear tight trousers. I've long hair. I thought there's nothing wrong with it, you know, what's up? But I think I understand how he thought I was hanging out with the wrong crowd. And I was? No, some of the time I was. But, um, it was really harmless. It was a fashion. It was just a look, you know. And when Heather got into it, at first, we were a little bit, um, worried about what it might lead to. I don't know, traditional parents. Where does you can't help it? You think you're going to be madly liberal, but then it happens. And you're, oh, so, um, but the great thing was all that friends used to bring around. We're real sweeties. They were like animal lovers and very interested in conservation. And you say, well, you got pins and you know, as you can't be into into that. They're really nice, you know, it's surprising. Actually, again, it was just a fashion. Kids are just the same. Do you look for their approval musical at all? Do you actually seek them out? Their approval. Yeah. I don't actually look for it. No, I mean, the only approval I really look for is my own. Because it's the only way to do it. I've tried it every which way, you know. And it really is the only thing that counts is if you like it, then you can give it to the world. And at least when the critics say it's a bunch of rubbish, you know, I like it. And as long as you're convinced, you do like it. Just the main thing.