Yo, this is Teresa Weatherspoon, better known as T-SPOON and you're watching Real Fans. Real Talk. I'm not gonna lie for the camp. Pull up by the camp. This is Real Fans Real Talk. I'm a real fan. Real Talk. We is really good. Big shout out to everybody involved with the Point Guard documentary. I haven't seen it just yet. I'm gonna actually watch it once we wrap here tonight. But I do want to say this big, big, big, big shout out to a family member of Real Fans. Real Talk, Nikki Avery. She's actually one of the, I guess, is it she got, how do we call the women? Okay. So she's actually one of the top point guards in the city. She just came back. Actually, she's probably gonna go back to go back overseas. I guess I went in like the next couple of weeks playing, both she was playing in. Coal in this past year, but she actually was in the, the point guard documentary. So big shout out to Nikki Avery. And then Bob it as well. Say that one more time. And then Bob it as well. Okay. She's in it. I think it's a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of notables. As well as stars. And I watched it last night. And for me, New York City, grassroots basketball is what got me interested in. The game. And I'm glad to see certain folks really and truly tell this story. But the hardest one is that I went in and I was a little, uh, a little bit older than I was. Um, well, um, I was struggling being one of them. Um, I was like Oh, so uh, God. God, Sham God. I think I talked to Sham Friday. And it's the best life right now. Uh, in the basketball space, you know it's an, it also isn't assistant coach with the Dallas Mavericks. Did you ever try to do the same guard? Yeah. I could never do it. Shout out to Schem, God, man. Definitely, it was cool to see him in Riverside Church. They interviewed Camron as well. And he and Sham and stuff on Marbury and Nate all play on the same AAU team. And back in the days, but it is really good for those stories to be told, you and I know these are stories that we've all known in the city. And the fact that those are stories that are getting national attention. Even Mark Jackson, I think, to some kids, he daily know him as a warrior's head coach in the guy on TV. Yeah. Old life playing as St. John's, being drafted by the nicks, playing for the Pacers, playing for the Nuggets, playing for the Clippers. And just was always, when they were getting here with the nicks, we were getting here with the nicks. And it was like the 16th, 17th, 18th pick. Like he can't have a nowhere to a lot of people. But the stories that Rod, I don't want to give away, but the Rod was telling about just being drafted the year later, if the mark was named MVP. Just all of that stuff is just refreshing for a lot of people to hear. Also, I'm glad that Kenny Anderson was able to tell his story as well. A lot of good ball players have come out of the burrow, Queens. Kenny Smith, so Ray for Austin, as well as Mark Jackson, who's Queens by way of Brooklyn. But you really get to see Kenny tell his story and how much of a superstar both here at Pearl Washington were. I feel like for our age group, Kenny Anderson, and his stuff on Mauberry were the stars that Pearl Washington were for our parents. Yes. And Tiny Archibald were for our parents. Yes. And you were really able to bridge that gap. My uncle and Tiny Archibald were pretty cool. My cousin was a ballboy for the nicks in the 70s. And we'd be at family functions. I was tired of hearing Tiny Archibald's name. I heard it so much. But you see what he did as Syracuse, and you see just how much he represented in boys and girls. And represented for the burrow, Brooklyn and large, even as much Parker getting to tell his story as well. Brooklyn's own, most notably, people know him during his time playing for the Lakers, and did his thing. It was good to see so many people tell his story. Even, it's relegated to just point guards, but New York is the land of the ballhandlers. So Lamar Odom getting his just do in the documentary. Just a lot of folks that were highlighted in the grassroots New York City basketball, Bobito Garcia getting his just do Nancy Lieberman getting her just do. It wasn't just to do, it was the ladies, but you definitely show, you trying to light on, like I said, the Mark Jackson, the D'Aroch, Brooklyn, the God Sham God, the Kenny Anderson, the stuff on Marbury's, Pro Washington. I can go on and on and then the day. I'm glad to see those guys get their just do. It's more than New York City basketball than just he got ganged. To have a documentary, a full-length documentary by Showtime just highlighting that, I think is great. Yeah, it's big for the city, man. It's really, it really is big for the city. I'm actually excited to watch it. I'm gonna give you a little homework school for the next time you come on the show, whenever you come back, I'm gonna need you to have your top five all time New York City Point guards. I can tell you that now. I would, let's get it, drop them on. I'm sorry. Talk about top five would be Mark Jackson. Okay. Omar Barry. Okay, stay. Ross Strickland. Kenny Anderson. Okay. And the fifth would probably be. I can't really give Pearl Washington in tiny because that wasn't my era. Smith wasn't my era either. And I know Kenny Smith most during his time as a rocket and don't TNT. Yeah. I probably the fifth person that I would pick for me personally would be right for Austin. Skip. Yeah, skip. Skip, skip, skip to my Lou, man, Rayford Rayford. Definitely big time. Now, wonder, can we go back to this? Was it was, oh, Managot was technically because he was a point guard. So we, I mean, can we throw Elmer? I'm gonna go in there as well because I feel like he's one of the ones. I know he didn't make it to the pros because it's obviously the drugs. But he definitely was one of them ones. So here's the thing. If we're gonna have that conversation about Managot, we didn't need to have that conversation about Sebastian Telfair. And I don't think we're ready to have that conversation yet. Because if you're talking about New York City Ball Player, are we simply talking high school? Are we talking about contributions to the NBA? Are we talking contributions to college? When I look at Sebastian Telfair, I feel like stuff on to our age bracket specifically was to us what I feel like Kenny Anderson was to like a older brother. Yes. When I feel like Sebastian Telfair was to a younger brother, what we thought LeBron James was gonna be. I think there's a lot of pressure being in New York City guard. There are highlights, there's bright lights that come to you even before you leave the city. And you have to live up to that height forever. Yeah, absolutely. And there was a lot of distractions. I feel like in some cases, some would argue the adversity for Bassey was different. But it's less about the adversity is more about who the company you hang around. I'm a little too close, but I think that with Bassey, I'm upset. I'm frustrated because I really, really felt like, he was the one. I felt the same way about Lenny Cook. Yeah. Lenny, I know very well. I'm, he's not a point guard, but, you know, just that pressure of, you know, just, yeah. And Lenny had the best of both worlds. Lenny was the one, Lenny was the epitome at a fresh print stack moved to Belair. He was going to grad school in, in Old Japan, New Jersey. He was going to, he was going to LaSalle, couldn't stay in New York, stayed in the metro area, and was staying with that family. Like Lenny, Lenny was special. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was definitely one and one. I mean, listen, you know, doing anything in New York that's in the public eye is high pressure. You know, but when you're talking about being that type guy because he, you know, one of these New Yorkers is brutal. And once you make the slightest of drops from where they expect you to be or know you to be, they will get at you and it's a lot. And then, you know, just being in New York, there's a lot of distractions. Unfortunately, there's a lot of distractions off the basketball court that, you know, young men and women in this city have to deal with.