What was that in North Philly like during the JBM era in the late 80s or 90s? Tell me about it. I mean Philly was like... I mean as much as people say it was a war zone, it was prosperity man. Because people was doing good man. Like it was like for all the despair and drama and violence and all that. People was eating out here man. So it was like kind of love man. And it was just like a spirit that was here man. It was just like an energy man and it was just growing. You know what I'm saying Philly? I mean Philly always been on the mat but you know for me growing up that watching that stuff, you know it was inspiring man. It was inspiring. Some of the things you saw, did it leave you paying pictures on wax, some of the rhymes that you wrote? You know what I mean coming up and out of rhyming? Yeah because it's like the stuff people say you talk about now or the stuff. As much as they say it's wild or violence and the money and I'm like, you know I ain't see nothing. That thing was like wow, wow, what's man, it's like okay, come out. What is now this had nothing, this ain't got nothing or 89. You know this ain't got nothing. You know you think you're seeing people getting money and you see people coming in the house with five trash bags for the money. You know I'm running and it's like that's a different type of money man. Right. Like you know if you can, you know my boy it told me said man if you could sit there with your hands and count your money, you ain't got none. You know I mean it. No doubt. And that was just real man, I just, the stuff you used to see man, it's just like... Did you encounter any of the JPM when you was doing the 11 Years of State? Yeah me and Mooch was actually locked up for a while. I mean me and Mooch as one like I ran across a lot of them. You run across a lot of them and you know I just, you just, you know, talk to them about things like see the thing is about me is like when I talk to people or that's gangsters or this so that's not on an idolization level. Because they'll tell you themselves like I didn't do nothing for you to be, you know what I'm saying? Right. I was you know I made mistakes and you know this is what got me here, I'm here for the rest of my life. So this, this you going back out here, this is what you need to do young boy. You know what I'm saying? And those are the conversations I should have with them. And these are the conversations I have with young dudes and I come home like look don't look at me because you're like oh man it's made. But it worked, he did that no no no no no no. Listen this is what I'm telling you. If you do those things that's the way you choose to leave your life, this is what them people want to do. You go on a penitentiary. Now can you, is you ready to stay in that? And if you ready to stay in that then go here but I'm going to give you everything. I'm not just going to give you the glory stories, I'm going to give you the whole thing. I love it. You know what I'm saying? Because there's no guarantee I was going to come out of the other side. You know what I'm saying? That's not a, it's not automatic round trip. You know what I mean? No doubt. It's like you know.