Yes, Senator Sanders. You have at various times, including just now, expressed the belief that the United States should look to Denmark and the Scandinavian countries for inspiration of the vision, where the country is going. As you said, as was alluded to, I grew up and I was born and grew up in Denmark. And these are countries where the government spends, taxes and spends approximately twice the level of the United States. And while I am very sympathetic to many of your spending proposals, especially on the things you mentioned on early childhood and single-payer and the like, I also know that these are countries that heavily tax everybody. Not just the rich people, middle classes, they have consumption taxes on everything of 20%. So while I'm very sympathetic to what you say, my sense is still that you would like to spend as a Scandinavian, but not tax this one. We have, the answer is, raise some very good points. When we talk about healthcare, for example, what my proposal would do, as I'm sure you understand, how much do you pay, were the people in Denmark pay for healthcare when they go to the doctor? There is an approximate, if I'm not mistaken, about $10 co-pay for everything. $10. How much do you pay when you go to the hospital? If you have cancer, God forbid, and you went to the hospital, how much would it cost you? Zero. Oh, of course you're zero. And how much is preschool in the high-quality preschool for the children in Denmark? It would depend a little bit on the reading of the country, but I'd say in two or three hundred dollars a month. Two or three hundred dollars a month. Okay. And what about college in Denmark? Our kids can't afford to go to college. How much does it cost to go to college in Denmark? But in fact, you get a government stipend to go to college. In other words, not only is it free, they give you a stipend because they want to make sure, correct me if I'm wrong, that they take advantage of the wisdom of all of the kids. They want to make sure that every kid in that country gets the best education he or she can have. Is that correct? If you have the appropriate grade as you have, yes. Exactly. So here is the point. Your point is well taken to provide quality virtually free childcare, to provide free higher education, to provide virtually free healthcare. It costs money. Nothing is free. Taxes are high. You're right. But I would suggest that the average American would rather pay three thousand dollars more in taxes and see a five thousand dollar premium to a private insurance company disappear. They will be better off. In Denmark, my guess is please correct me if I'm wrong. Probably the per capita cost in healthcare is half what it is in the United States. Is that a good guess? Approximately yes. So the point is they are able to run a high quality healthcare system probably better than ours at half of the cost because it's a public healthcare system. But to answer the your point, and it's a fair point, nothing is for free. But I believe in a kind of society which is different than Ted's does. I want to see all of our people, the young people, the old, the poor, the working class, be able to get the education they need, the healthcare they need, the job training they need. Does it cost money to do that? It does. But I believe at the end of the day that is the kind of nation that the American people would like to see us become. Senator Cruz. You know, we would just witness a very important moment in this debate, which is that Bernie admitted that he wants to raise everyone's taxes. Not just the rich, the question was to pay for this socialist state. You got to raise everyone's taxes and Bernie said, yep, that's right, your taxes are going up. That is a rare moment of candor in Washington. You know, it's interesting when I asked him the difference between a socialist and a Democrat on taxes, he couldn't tell me. I can't tell you either because the Democratic Party today, the difference is Bernie admits his policies are socialist. Now, he lie and I, hold on, I didn't interrupt you, Bernie. He lie and I socialize medicine in Europe. If you look at socialized medicine, there are waiting periods, there's rationing. The government says, if you're an elderly person, you need a hip replacement. It says, well, you may not get a hip replacement. We were talking about Denmark. The average weight time in 2014 for cataract surgery. We've got you out there. 83 days. Come on back. And the average time in Denmark, which he brought up for hip replacement, was 55 days, 59 days, for knee replacement. There is a reason why Bernie, I didn't interrupt you. I'm not interrupting you. Come on, come on. Come on. The Italian invader. You know, as some might say, curb your enthusiasm. LAUGHTER APPLAUSE By the way, the impression Larry David does of you is spectacular and uncant. One day, you may also have somebody impersonated you. You've got to work on it. You know, all I need is a bunch of left-wing comedy writers to want to glamorize it. Hold on. I was in the middle of making a point. The long point, Ted, we're running out of time here. Bernie likes to glorify socialism. But if you look at the greatest engine of prosperity the world has ever seen, it's the American free enterprise system. There is a reason. Millions of people risk their lives to come here. You know, he talks about poverty. Yes, we have people who are suffering in this country, but it's worth noting that in the United States, per capita income in the United States is over five times greater than the world average, and it's 50 percent greater than Europe. There's a reason why my dad coming out of prison in torture in Cuba came here with a hundred bucks in his underwear, because, you know, you go to socialized countries and you don't have the economic mobility. You got rich people that live like kings, but you don't have penniless immigrants who can go start a small business and work towards the American dream. And your answer is, let's make us like European socialism. I say, let's make us like American exceptionalism, free enterprise, and opportunity for everybody. Well, I wish we had opportunity for everybody. And you heard his remarks about the, you're with the Petersonist, which is a conservative group. So I'm talking to somebody who is a conservative. All right. How bad is the, I don't know the answer, you tell me, is the Danish health care system also terrible? No, I mean, I think the general characterization of sort of waiting lists across the board is vastly incorrect. And I'll give you the example of my mother, who is hospitalized with cancer. She was treated, you know, in the matter of one or two days. And this is true on a number of issues. So the demonization of health care systems in Europe is just not true. Thank you very much. You're okay, though. I was talking now, okay? All right. And, you know, here are the facts. When people are pulled as the weather or not, they like their health care system. We come down very low on the total bill compared to other countries. With them all, what you look at our health care system, it has to be understood that not only that we have 28 million without any health insurance, and the only major country on Earth, you may be proud of the fact that 28 million have no health insurance. You want another 15 million, not to have any health insurance. You may be proud of the fact that people have high deductibles so that they can't even walk into the doctor's office. I'm not. Well, I believe, yes, that when we're paying twice as much per capita as the people in Denmark or the people in Canada, I happen to believe that health care is a human right, and that every man, woman and child should have the right to health care as an American. Senator Sanders, I just want to ask a follow-up because just to be clear, Danish citizens pay the highest tax rate of all developed nations as a percentage of GDP. The United States on that list ranks 30 seconds. That's right. Mark number one, do you think Americans are ready for a big tax hike? Well, that's a big tax hike. But here's the point. If we can have sensible discussions like this, I think they will be. Here is the point. If you are an American watching, listening to Senator Cruz, oh my God, Bernie Sanders wants to raise my taxes. But let me also tell you what he's not telling you is that we're going to do away with your private health insurance premium. Maybe you are a family of four today on an individual insurance account, and you're paying $15,000 for your family. And if I ended that, private insurance that you're paying a blue cross blue shield is some other private insurance company, and said you're going to pay $8,000 more in taxes, you'd be $12,000 to the good, and you and your kids would have comprehensive health care. So yeah, you're raising taxes, but you're doing away with private insurance. Same thing with college. You know, you talk about America being low taxed. By the way, Ted Cruz has been telling us how high tax we are. You've just told us we're one of the lowest tax countries in the world. But here is the point. If you're a mom or a dad out there and you've got a high school kid, you say isn't it great? I am low tax, but how in God's name, I'm not going to come up with $40,000 next year to send my kid to college. So what we do is we only look at taxes. We don't look at the other expenses of life in Vermont. You know what you're cost to send a kid to decent childcare, $12,000, $15,000 a year. Other countries cover that. So yes, to answer your question, Jake, if we can explain to people, yeah, you're going to be paying more in taxes. It's going to be a progressive tax system. The wealthy are going to pay their fair share, not the middle class, not the working class, but everybody will pay some more. But you're going to get free health care, and maybe you're going to get free childcare, and maybe your kids are going to be able to go to college to wish and free. You know what, you're going to be better off than on the Texas center, Chris. Well, there you go again. We had another moment that's important. Earlier Bernie said he wanted to raise everybody's taxes. And now Bernie's admitted, not only does he want to raise everyone's taxes, he wants to raise them to the highest level in the world. Like that, you said, if we have this conversation, the American people will be ready to do that, you know what? No, it won't. It's too wide. That is a bit of a baton quote. No. What I said is Bernie, I didn't interrupt you. There should be. Well, I stopped when you pointed it out. Don't interrupt me when I'm interrupting you.