My sister Angie, she's so cute. She's like, whenever, if we're on the phone call, and I'm like, and it was like, and she's like, did you just say that word? Now I'm like, yeah. And so literally for a great day, I said, come on. And she just say, say it. And she goes, oh, man, just literally. This is pretty big deal. Because we're in between looks, we're just going to bump up the color a little bit on the lip and tweak it from like a casual to my to casual. What are you going to do? I don't know. Let's just see what happens. What are our sleeves like, my co-managing things? OK. Has to see the hair tie for every ponytail. If you do a center part, it has to be mathematically directly in the center. I have to use a comb with actual measurements on it. Shout out to Revlon for my little purple eyeshadow, my little berry lip. Thank you guys for sponsoring this episode. I am so pumped for our guest today. You guys, it's Kelly Roland. You might have heard of her from this like little band, this little group called Destiny's Child. She's a mommy. She's pregnant. She's making us lifetime movies and quarantines. She's got all the things happening and her smile is radiant. I can't wait to talk to her. Without further ado, let's love their pants. We've got Kelly Roland. Hello. Hello. Hi. Hi. I can't see you. Oh crap. Hold on. I think. Hi. How are you? How's the baby? Oh my gosh, Kelly. Isn't it the best thing in the world? Honestly, it's the most beautiful, rewarding, stressful, amazing. Like, it's all of these things at one time, but I love it. I love my baby. So I have the song, I'm going crazy. Crazy for anything. Crazy for you. I just put my own. Oh, you know who got me hyped too was Tina Nolz. I love her so much because when I've always like just needed a extra boost or extra bit of strength, she is always there. With the record I sent it to her earlier, she was like, baby, this is great. I said, thank you, mom. She said, no, no, no, this is a great record. Then I called her a couple nights ago before she posted it and I didn't know she was doing it. So I'm, I guess she's in between the filming and she's clapping at hands. And like, and I was like, what are you doing? She's like, I'm doing a video to your soul. I love her Instagram so much. You know, you've been in the industry for so long at this point, like what is really exciting you when it comes to female artists and and the music industry right now? The current landscape. Oh my gosh. There's so many things that exciting from authenticity, like when you can see that what these artists are singing about is just like real. You just want to sit them down and say, oh girl, tell me all about it. You even defended, um, what when it came out. It's so funny because like I feel like in so many ways I'm a feminist, I'm all for like women speaking their mind and being who they are. But when WAP came out and I heard wet ass pussy, I was like, and I feel like I've been programmed by society and 100% double standard here. Program by society that like women aren't supposed to say pussy, but when I hear a man say pussy like in a rap song, it's, it's okay. Did you have to think about that when you heard that or is it just me reprogramming my own mind? No, it's so funny because my sister Angie, she's so cute. She's like whenever, like if we're on the phone call and I'm like, and she's like, oh, did you just say that word? Now I'm like, yeah. So is that not so false? Do it. And she's just like, well, no, you're grown. You can. So she was like, oh, I just need to, I just need to say it. And so literally for her birthday, I said, come on, Angie just say it. And so I literally sat there and I said, say it, say pussy, say it. And she goes, just literally, was like, it was tickling like her lip. I was like, hey, say it. So she finally says it. And she just like burst out laughing. But I was like, how come we can't take that work back? I mean, I love the fact that Cardi like bites back at people. You know what I mean? And on one hand, I'm like, don't say no, I'm even deserved. They don't even deserve it. You know what I mean? Like, because some people, they don't deserve a bite back. Now, if you cross me good enough, it's like you never existed. I'm very good at that. That's a Scorpio in me too. What sign are you? I'm just an aquarium. Oh, yeah. Well, maybe it's the Titan part of me because Titan is a Scorpio for sure. Oh, that's right. Because he's a little November, baby. Oh, well, speaking of Titan, you've created affirmations with him. With Titan, every day, we tell him, tell me who you are. I'm a smart black boy. OK. And what else? He says, I am one. He loves to tell himself he's wonderful. I'm like, OK, yes, you are. Yes, you are wonderful. He says, great, thinker. And my superpower is learning. And I'm handsome. And I'm strong. Like he's saying all these things because I just keep thinking about the world that we live in now. And how for black and brown boys, the world would try to tell them what their worth is. And I go tell my baby who he is. He's not going to tell my baby who he is. I'd like for him to know that from home first. And it's so funny because we're also not those parents where it's like, he brings you his work that he's completed to. And it's like, oh, my god, this is great. You could have worked harder. I know you live. You know what I mean? Yes. And I'm very proud of you because you know what you did great. And you tried and you did your, and he's like my best. I was like, yes, you did your best. But on this one, did you do your best? He's like, no. You know what I mean? So we try to have this balance with him. And it seems to be working with working. Sometimes I feel super, super guilty. With the Christmas movie that I just did with Lifetime, it took me away from Titan and Tim for five weeks. But it's one mom said, no one was important for him to see you working. It's important for me. To point things that you love. He's helped me sit down and edit the movie. That's what's really awesome. I'm like, do you like this part or this part? And he's like, well, I like this part. And then I'll say, tell me why. Somebody told me to bring them in in my work because then they understand your space. And I watched Be Do It all the time. With her kid, such an exceptional mother. So I learned a lot from her. I learned a lot from Sala. Just a lot of such a great mother. I'm a homophanies, such a great mother. Sierra, such a great mother. La, such a great mother. I feel like I'm surrounded by these incredible women who constantly feed me when they don't even know that they are. I just watched them. It's like when you did Brown's King Girl. It's like your tribe. There you guys are. What did that mean to you doing that song and being a part of Black is King? Oh my gosh. But one, when I heard Brown's King Girl, I actually cried. I think the five year old, I don't know, five or 12 or then. But the five year old to me, I won't do. Because I was like, oh my god. I wish I would have heard that when I was that small. I think that when you're little and I remember going to a all black school in Atlanta. And I saw kids that looked like me. Then my mom's job moved to Texas. And then I was in a school where there were only three other two other black kids in the school. So I had these moments where I was like, where am I? You know what I mean? And I didn't see anybody that looked like me. And there was teachers who definitely treated me different. So it was just having that identity, but knowing my worth and who I am and being proud of being a Brown's King Girl. And between my mom telling me and then my mom a tea telling me and then seeing all this black art all over my mom a tea house and seeing what is reflected in a space where I lived and dwell, it just, it really fed me. So I'm truly grateful for that. To hear the whole conversation, make sure you listen to a pretty big deal wherever you listen to podcasts. And a huge thank you to our friends at Flamengo for sponsoring this episode. This light hydrating moisturizer from Flamengo is my favorite, because look, it just, look at that. It looked like I have a sun kiss glow on right now. Kelly, thank you for being on Pretty Big Deal today. I truly believe that you are the definition of what Pretty Big Deal means. So again, thank you and thank you everybody for listening to Pretty Big Deal. To hear the full conversation, click the link below.