I'm going to do a little bit of the same. We are talking about grinding our drone. I used to skateboard, I think you used to do... Probably. Yeah, aggressive. We've been around the aggressive scene for years. Grinding is like a whole genre of tricks and freestyle miniquads really scratch the itch for skateboarding but I always kind of wanted to grind. When I first started flying, it was like three years ago I first started flying and I wanted to grind. But the thing is, the flight controller wouldn't allow you to do it. It's designed to have that outside force and bump you away from it. Grinding with these things is really not easy to be honest. We're still figuring out exactly how to do it. It usually takes me many, many tries. I haven't really gotten to that consistent point. Lots of tries. We want to talk through this. See if you guys can get trying it yourself so that I think the things that you need to consider when grinding is what's the physical structure of the drone? Where can you actually lock it in? The software. What do you want to do with the software with your tune to maybe allow you to do it and then through what's the actual technique? Yeah. So first off, we've actually got two good examples here because you've got to bottom on backwards. Yeah, so I have a bottom-mount battery. Hey, grind plate. Like you have on the... Like you would have on the... To lock me in. To roller blades. To roller blades. Yeah. And it doesn't matter. Even skateboarders and BMXers, they have pegs and skateboarders have lips or trucks to lock themselves in. But let's see what you got. Well, so yeah, I have a top-mount battery and with my frame in particular, this horizontal standoff down here that I was thinking would be something I could like maybe lock it on between the carbon fiber and balance it like a nose grind. Sometimes I can get it for a little bit more often. I end up kind of pinching some... Like the arm. Is it in this sweet spot? Getting some sort of sweet spot where it's, you know, kind of crooked between the... That standoff and the arm. What's your lock in though? Whether you've got that grind plate or... Once you lock in and you do that, you know it. Yeah. It just feels good. And then what do I need to do to make sure that this thing isn't freak out while I'm on the rail? Right. And the thing that I thought... So what do you do with the software, tuning? That's what I did. So I put my air mode on a switch. And then I also thought to lower my idle a little bit. It's good, but it's also hard. Once you lower your idle, you are going to get wobbles on the rail. So there's almost that sweet spot of it balancing on its own. The only way you're going to kind of find that sweet spot is going out and doing it and playing with your throttle, coming right off your throttle and pitching forward and seeing if it does a little float or, you know, if it stays in a straight line. Right. So by turning off air mode, you decrease how effective the pins are at lower throttle. Those outside forces that, you know, are designed to do. So when you get on the rail and you drop your throttle a little bit, the flight controller is going to be less reactive to the contact of the rail. And then lowering your idle also helps with that. So I do the exact same two things. That's something I've been doing for a while because I've been doing skidding. I'm only recently getting into the grinding, but I've been really into the skids. And then you're getting that muscle memory, the mechanics, the whole whole thing. Flip the switch, get in there, flip the switch off. Yeah, so with the tech-neak, now this is where it gets fun because show them how big that space is that the target on your... Oh, it's like teeny. So it's teeny tiny. And then the rail, the rail is only about a two inches wide. So now we're getting to the point where I have to lower my camera tilt. I can't do this at 60 degrees. I've noticed that with the technique because my tilt is lower, it's pretty hard to slowly get onto something. I always have a better time if I have a little bit of forward momentum to get myself on. You really have to be very precise and hit that center line. If you don't hit that center line and get it perfect, you're bouncing off and also with a throttle management, you're bouncing off the rail. You have to lower the throttle. So you have to gently set it on there, then lower the throttle. You can't dump off the throttle. You've got to fit very well. You have to be quick, just. There's a sweet spot again in the throttle that you can have to hit. For me, I feel like it's somewhere around 10, 15% stick travel. You know what I also noticed too with setup is props that have a higher pitch or that don't have a low torque because when that pit loop does kick in and it bumps you off, wants to bump you off the rail, that thrust isn't there in the throttle. Also with another technique, I find is when I get onto the rail, I like to pitch forward a little bit because then you get on there. Chathraad a little bit. Chathraad, and then just you have to feather the throttle. Don't go out and get discouraged because for myself, it took me three days around to tweak this, figure everything out. The first day I was able to grind, but it wasn't until like the third day when I started to get a little bit more consistent. You sit there and you'll fly three or four packs without doing a single grind. So you have to be very persistent. Just like when you see skateboarders doing tricks over and over and over again to try to get that one trick, it's kind of the same. I think this is something we're going to get more consistent. Absolutely. And that's absolutely. Seriously, why we want to make this video, to share some tips, see what you guys can come up with. Give us some feedback. Start grinding. The worst is knowing what I'm doing wrong because I'm not getting a pitch forward, right? Either don't do it enough and then when I land on the rail, I set my belly down and fall off or I pitch forward too much and it's what it's going to take to take grinding to the next level as a trick though, to be able to do it. Absolutely, but also sitting here and having the patience to be able to stick the trick. What was being done tonight? I think we'll breed a whole new genre of piloting. It might actually grab more skateboarders, more BMXers, more aggressive inline skaters that have scooters. It doesn't matter. It's obviously thinking it could grab other people who didn't think flying drones is cool. It's too advanced right now. They're like, okay, so skater might get into it, but to do that grind, you have to be right now, but that's the thing when I used to skateboard, like dolphin flips weren't even a thing or whatever. And now we see like 14 year olds banging them out. Well, that's the thing when a trick is already been done, it is easier to do. So like if people get into it on the premise that they're getting into it just because they don't want to grind because they've already seen it, it'll have faster. Yeah, absolutely. One more disclaimer, this is pretty hard on your gear. Even if you're doing successful grinds, the point is you're still intentionally running your quad into a metal pole. Oh no! Okay, okay. Oh my god. You're going to be just running it into metal over and over. It's pretty brutal on your gear, so be prepared to have to do some repairs. So drone grinding really want to see this continue to progress. I hope that these tips help you start trying to play with this. Leave any tips in the comments below. If you can figure something out, tell me how to do it. Let's progress the whole community. If you find something that works and you become very consistent at it, please leave the comment in the, or leave a comment in the comment section. Yeah, I'm Lidraib. Maddie Stunts. Thanks for hanging out.