Before Nirvana, we were called Skid Row. And then when we were from Skid Row, we played live on a radio, Midnet Show on Chaos. In very next day, I showed up in Kurt's and Kurt had his easel and he was painting his picture. I kind of looked at it and it was a painting of a giant pen with this cap, I'll cheat up, right? So that, that day, I would call it a pen cap, too. So we did some shows. I think that's really Kurt tired of that. So we were chatted pretty. We were either like down the mark, so we were going to Bliss, so the fourth name was Bliss and then the fifth game was tomorrow.