Now when you're spilling up the spinning rails, the biggest spinning rails which you want nice and tight, it can be a bit of a mission. Okay, firstly you'll start by spilling one rail the wrong way around. In other words, you first put your top shot, the braid you're going to use until you get to the level where you can see this, any little bit of space left and on there you'll put a bit of mono backing. The mono backing and I'm talking about 50 meters 0.55 or 0.58, the reason you do that is to prevent any possible slipping for braid. Now there's a couple of knots I believe in and I've got confidence but still these rails like the Dava BG saltwater 8000 spinning rail I'm going to use for bigger fish, specifically aim to catch really big fish and you don't want under that high pressure that the braid possibly spins or comes loose. So you have to do a wrong way around to see what actually can fit. So what I've done is for instance I start with 300 meters top shot which is cobra braid. It's an 8 strand, it's good for casting, it's more supple and it doesn't make the noise, your four strand braids wood. And that's purely because of the supple, our softet becomes when it's 8 strand, that's 8 carriers instead of the four carriers of a four strand braid. Now you'll hear the four strand braids makes a noise through the reel which is a normal thing. So what I've done is you first on the reel, on a similar reel or the exact same reel in this case because I want the spools and I want the exact amount of liner. So I'll spill first 300 meters 8 strand braid, then I'll back it up with the four strand and that's to save cost because it's almost, I won't say half the price but it's close to using a four strand as strong. And that you'll back up say for instance in this case it puts 600 meters so it's 300 plus 600. Then I've added a bit of extra braid because the spools came in 300. Another 150 so we are under a thousand and 50 meters and then I've added 50, 40, 50 meters of normal monofilament which is 0.55 or 0.58 and then I reverse it back to the reel. So once it's on you see a reel is nice and full but you've got the line wrong way around. Now I spool it back onto the reel I actually want it so your mono will go on first, then all your backing braid and then your 300 meter stop shot which is 8 strand and that's exactly what I'm doing here. Alright now what I'm doing is I'll put that reel in a vase and I'll put the drag fairly tight because I want my braid on as tight as possible. And as tedious as what there's issue you can do it once. Braid lost for a very very long time if you look off to your equipment. That's the positive about braid competitive mono. Mono you would change regularly sometimes I mean I used to change it off to every trip and sometimes two days into a trip. If your line hit bricks or anything like that and you don't feel confident about it anymore take off your top shot and I still do that on the fix pull reels. But on the spinning reels where you're going to pull this all real with braid you're going to do this once and for a long period of time you won't have to do it again. So it takes a lot of time, it took me probably a good hour working out all of that and putting it onto that reel and now I'm just putting it back. Once it's on you we're ready to go. Now when you get these reels and you spool them, it's putting on the first for instance I've got two similar reels which makes this possible to do it like this and it is the best way to do it. So you can have exactly the right amount of backing and line and top shot on. But in your box you receive a little plastic packet with these washers in with these reels and that's to make sure your line laid. Starting on the pressure you apply when you put the line on, white braid you use, etc will determine the exact backing of your braid onto that reel. So your line lay gets determined by the products you use and the pressure you put it on. So a lot of times when you're starting off with the first spool you'll see if it's got, it's putting a little bit too much in the bottom or a little bit too much in the top and these washers you then add underneath your spool to balance that. If you see it makes a little lip on the bottom and a little dent on the top you need to add a washer. Then you do 30, 40 turns and you can see if it's balancing out your watch where it's packing the line in any case. And that way by adding, you get three or four washers in a, I think three washers in a reel and you'll be lifting your spool all the way until it packs at 100%. So I already did it with the first reel so now it's packing there and then what I do is once it's done with the reel I just swap the spools and I put the reel, I've already put washers on, I put the empty spool on that and put the full spool on the other reel and then start reading it back on. A lot of times people don't know this to put the at the washers and sometimes you need a couple of washers on your entry level reels especially. You may arrange, you'll need one or two and then your top end still need one or two sometimes. But if you don't know you'll see your line goes on like a cone and people couldn't understand that and then they immediately blame the reel or the product or the brand. It's normal that you have to add the washers to get the exact right line there. I see we pretty much to the end of the backing now which means there's as close to 700 meters. Oh no I'm lying 800 meters of backing and that was the gaiter braid, 48 pound and before first on the spool like I said I had the 0.58 in this case, Ginkfischer giant abrasion and I put about 40 meters on a filament. On top of that 750 meters 48 pound gaiter for strain and now the 8 strand cobra braid will follow as you can see where it comes on. Now the knots are used to join the braid. So cat's pull you can have a look on our channel. We've got a clip with a cat's pull under knots but it's too many twists which you loop to loop 8 times and then put it nice and tight. That we used to tie with all your backings to your monofilament on the fix pull reels as well as on the braid. If you've got for instance here we used I used more than three spools of braid. So I've got three of those knots on already but now from our braid to my leader I'll only use the FG knot. Now another thing about line lay, you'll see now this is perfect to actually show as an example. You see the big gaps between the braid now. That's a good thing. You don't want to reel to pack it fine like that because when it's under high pressure it cuts into itself. We know it zigzags at a nice enough angle that it can't cut in and pushes down at it but if it packs like that and you've put a very high pressure like a very big fish you you're pulling very hard it will cut into itself and when it gets stuck and that fish turns around and tries to swim away again it's stuck so badly in there that it will pop the braid. There'll just some interesting facts. The weight of this reel is 850 grams which is a little less than the dog fight and then a lot of the features and technologies is based on the dog fight and Saltiga reels on this BG. Obviously using different materials but there's some very good reviews on on the beaches on the internet if you go and look for them and then just the line retrieve is 1.35 meters per turn which is a hell of a lot of line which makes it nice and fast to get your bids back. Now just something worth mentioning as the line gets less on the spool I've got in the vise you have to release the drag a little bit because the drag actually gets tough and that applies to a very big fish just carrying on swimming as your line gets less on your reel the spool spins fast as you have to release your drag a little bit on the reel that's getting empty. Okay well there we go 1.1 kilometer 48 pound braid on my BG 8000. I've put 48 pound cobra braid as a top shot 300 meters and then 750 meters gaiter braid the four strand and then 40, 50 meters 0.58 monofilament the Kingfisher giant abrasion and that's just to ensure that this whole setup of braid on your won't slip you use a bit of monofilament at the bottom that also gives you a bit of stretch should a fish take you down to the spool you've got a little bit of stretch to play with to maybe 10 that fish still then you've got a 5% chance if it's taking you there to actually still turn it but yeah the reason I use cobra braid well I love this braid it's really really announced braid and not just from my mouth but you hunt beacuse our champion long distance cost in South Africa claims this braid to be the braid that cost the furthest out of any 50 pound braids on the market in South Africa now I kind of find the same I haven't tasted meaning measured every cost but you you kind of get the same impression when you use this so on my other reels I'm putting J braid on this reel I still put the trusted cobra braid I've used for many years backed up with gator braid and that's it and all I'm going to do now I'm not going to show the knot again there's a couple of clips that's got the FG knot on but I'll use the FG knot to maybe grab it the Reiner to a bullfish Reiner braid that's what I'll be using as a leader and this is 150 pounds so I'll use the FG knot and put a full length leader 8 meter leader onto the rope for casting