We put science on a pedestal. I mean, I'm not getting science. I love science, but it, I think we put it on a pedestal when it comes to religion because it's like the only thing fighting religion. But I do feel like human empathy and just understanding that things are unfair can also go a long way in explaining why a god is unfair. I'm so happy. I'm so glad that you're saying this because this is what I've been telling people because a lot of people think like all the atheist community they're scientific. No, most of them don't have no background in science. No, but the point is that if we want, if we want to fight against religion, we have to work with what we have. And most people do not understand science, but most people have understand kindness. Most people understand fairness. And you can really point to people how unfair, how unkind this religion is. I'm not saying we shouldn't tell people. I mean, I wrote an entire book showing how a logical god is, right? So I'm not saying we shouldn't do that, but that is not going to get us the masses because the masses do not have a background in logic or in philosophy or in science. It's okay because even though most people don't understand that most people are kind. And that's what we need to appeal to to show them how barbaric these ideas are. Yeah, but I also did a video clarifying that because I feel like a lot of people didn't understand it. And I kind of I was kind of crying. I was like in my feelings. I had said that how can you accept a god that will bend you simply because you don't believe in him. How can you accept a god? It's the same as a mother taking her baby and then roasting him alive because he doesn't believe you exist. Exactly. Secular Jihadis is an increasingly influential podcast with much of its growing audience in Muslim majority countries advocating for atheists, secularists and enlightenment thinkers. We want to reach out to more people. If we reach 500 patrons, we will be able to translate our shows into Arabic, Urdu, Persian, Bengali, Malai, Turkish and other languages in these countries. Help us get there at patreon.com slash SJME.