Okay, so today again, again, we're going into the systems of power and men who are in power. Today, societally, privilege advantages, we moved on from rights. Societally, how do you make the argument? Like I said, this is a change my mind effectively right now. The idea that we're taught in schools by gender studies professors, by far left progressive feminists. This idea of privilege is the word they use. I know everyone has different words, but that's used when I was in college. When we had to read Naomi Wolf, examples of that today, societally, I would love to see some concrete examples to see if we would agree or disagree. Yeah, I mean, and I'm going to keep pushing on this. It's like the fact that men have been the ones empowered. They are the ones who are able to dictate what is truly like, I'm sorry, I'm losing my train of thought right now, because I understand what you're saying. But what I'm trying to explain to you is that these power positions influence our society today, because we certainly agree. Certainly, I agree. Of course, listen to your past dictates a part of your present. But listen, again, we're going back to people in positions of power. They made men eligible for the draft and not women, right? They made men have mandatory bucket duty and not women. They made men's an actual whipping post if they abuse their wives and not women. So no one's perfect. And if we talk about patriarchy, you will hear a lot of feminists say that these patriarchal systems are also negative for men as well. We're not just saying we need to dismantle the patriarchy just because it's bad for women. It's bad for men too, for all of the reasons that you just agree that you just talked about. So since you guys have had the benefit of being empowered for centuries, that's the norm. And you and I know that it is very, very difficult to change the idea of what is normal, right? Like your producer and I were joking before I came on about the fact that, you know, I have to have two different headphones, one for my computer and one for my iPhone, because when Apple changed their iPhone jack and got rid of it, people like went nuts. And that's a small change, right? Because that's the norm. That's what you're used to. So if you are used to seeing men in power and if men are used to being in power, it's hard to kind of change that dynamic. And because of that, like, you just assume that men will be in power. It's an assumption, it's a systemic assumption. It's something that people just assume is the norm. That is the norm. Someone once asked Ruth Gator, been, um, Bader Ginsburg, what is the, what would make you happy? Like, how many women on the Supreme Court would make you happy? And she said all of them, because there have been all men on the Supreme Court. So why shouldn't there be all women? Ah, see, that's where we differ. And that's where I think I think where we can come, come to our disagreement, maybe later on we'll continue along this path is the solution. See, I think that's a horrible land. I mean, I'm sure you can imagine why I would think that's the worst answer possible. Sure. And I happen to agree with you, but the fact that all men is normal and all female is abnormal is the problem. That's not why that's not why I think it's bad. I think it's bad because I am all about, uh, of course we've support on this program equal opportunity. What Ginsburg is talking about, there's equal outcome. I couldn't care less. It's not because there's normal or abnormal, whether it's Clarence Thomas or Ginsburg. I couldn't care less. I care about the most qualified person for the job. I care about the constitutional scholar who will protect our rights. I couldn't care less if they have a penis or a vagina. And I think that's a big reason why young women and particularly young men, the dangers that we're seeing now reject this idea of feminism, reject this idea of privilege and advantages because they see a lot of disadvantages that men experience, not as a result of patriarchy, but as a result of feminism because of that mindset that it's time to ensure equal outcomes, saying all women on the Supreme Court, listen, if you're a man today, if you're a 22 year old male, you go, oh, a lot of second, everyone here has equal rights. And I don't want the Supreme Court to become an affirmative action land. But and I completely agree with you, it should not be an affirmative action at land. And the people who argue for against male privilege are not saying that you should give positions to women simply because they're women. We just all want to be treated equally and we're not really at this point. But if you do think you can't ensure and all female Supreme Court, so you understand the subtext there, you can't. I do 100%. 100%. I cannot guarantee in all female Supreme Court. But what I, the reason why I brought that up to begin with was to underline my argument that all all male all the time is the norm. It's the norm. That's 100% the norm. It's been the norm. I would not agree. You just I would not agree that all male all now 100% is the norm. You had females in the Republican primary and the Democratic National candidate was a female. I don't believe it's a higher percent the norm. I just I don't agree. I believe that it's actually probably disproportionately not the norm. If you look at the amount of women who go into certain fields and then you look at how many of them make it to the top, whether it's stand-up comedy or the field of sciences, I don't agree that in 2018 it's the norm to see 100% men. I think it's the norm. I'm saying that it's the outcome of women. Go ahead. I'm not saying that it is the norm. I'm saying that it's the assumption that that's what you're going to see. When people go to the doctor, they assume that it's a male doctor. When people go to a lawyer, they assume that it's going to be a male lawyer because these are fields that have been traditionally dominated by men. I mean, I don't agree. I hate to I don't agree with the premise. You don't have to agree with that. It's not accurate. Like the medical field is the legal field. Yes, let's do this. We have to agree on fundamental facts, right? Yes, most lawyers are men. We can get into why that's the case. But in the medical field, you have plenty of women. Obviously, people will argue many of them go into nursing, but you have plenty of female practitioners who are doctors. I've had female doctors myself. My wife has female doctors. I don't agree with the premise that it has been the norm for a long time or certainly today for you to expect a male doctor. I think you're seeing everything through the prism of gender here and not through the prism of qualifications. I don't believe that most people go, well, if a woman walks into their office when they're on that deli papers and well, a whole lot of second, you have breasts. This is not what I signed up for. I don't think anyone cares. I really don't. I'm not saying that they care. I'm not saying that they're going to like get up and store them out if a woman walks in. I'm just saying that there are certain things where you expect a man to show up. And I think that that's very represented in you can even look at our own government. Only 19% of the House of Representatives is female and there are only 21 female senators sitting at this moment. So, you know, that's not equal. That's not, you know, all women. It's mostly men. And I think that... And why do you think that, you know, over half the country or women? Why do you think that is? Why do you think women aren't voting in the women? Well, I think that we're not voting in the women just because they're women. I think that, you know, we... I don't really want to get into the whole Trump Hillary thing. Hillary did win the popular vote. We don't have to get into all of that sh** right now. But we are voting in for, we are voting in women. I think that traditionally women have not been pushed into or have not been motivated or have not even really been told that they can achieve situations like this because we and we could get into sexism with this now. Women who enter careers like politics, who enter careers like anything where there's a high profile tend to be put through, like tend to be scrutinized a lot more than men. I think that's your view. And that's probably... Well, and I don't think that's, and that's not statistically corroborated.