But so I was going to say about the whole email thing. Totally use, I know you use active campaign for your emails, right? Convert kit. Convert kit. And then I use aweber. It doesn't matter who you use because it really comes down to the message that you're going to deliver to your potential clients. So the email marketing is a whole different universe that will open up a lot of income potential situations for you. It's not enough for you to create an email marketing campaign. You're going to need landing pages to get them into your email campaign. So as you're looking for clients or you're grabbing up to your clients that are looking for your services, you need a follow up system.