So typically like if I've got one that's not one to be as broke whenever I get across that cow I'll just want to make them white and let that cow you know really pull them somewhere It seems like if you let that cow Pull those horses you know it tends to open them up behind Which when they spread their hind feet it allows them to turn around softer and and usually you can I want them to get to that stop wait draw and then try to let that cow pull them to the turn John Burgess he told me one time he said you go to stop you stopped drawing you draw to turn and I Think about him telling me that often because I feel like I'm constantly Focusing on the inside rib of this horse and they're inside shoulder when they land I want them to load up and I want to fill all that soften in here and come back to me Once they hit that ground and and soften in here Once the inside of this horse softens what that the first thing that does is