Hey, look, okay. I know you heard me and your mom say fuck, but you gotta understand what it means when you say fuck. So we're having a baby together and as a result, we've been having a lot of conversations about our beliefs because as Jared said. Yeah, boy, I can get the one to give you all my big ass. These convos have been pretty eye-opening, so we decided to film them and share them. Welcome to Values, an unfiltered dialogue series that we want you to be a part of. Because if you see the world in a different way than us that could benefit this community and our child, we want to learn. It's a series of no-cap combos about things like loyalty, finances, sexuality, discipline, and goal-setting. It's the good, the bad, and the work in progress of what we know now with an intention to know and do better in the future. What in the actual fuck is that? Mother fuckers! I hope you don't talk like that in front of the fuck. You don't feel that way. You keep saying the name, Jared! I'll believe it. Okay. The name can always change as the reason why we're not sharing it, but it's probably not going to change. It's probably not going to change. Yeah. Um, so how do you really feel that way? Well, let's dive into it. Let's dive into it. How do you feel about cussing in front of the kid? All right, so let's go back to our past first. So childhood, I very rarely heard my mom swear. Yeah. My dad may be a bit more, but I had an aunt who was just... Land of blood. ...but, bitch, shit, like all the time, and the kids is well too. I'm going to be honest with you, I didn't mind it. Yeah. I'm a big fan. At the end of the day, if you're using curse words because you've never educated yourself and your vocabulary is not that broad, and so you don't have other words to pull from. Yeah. But sometimes it genuinely is the most perfect word. So my dad and mom never... I mean, my dad and my stepmom never cussed. But my mom and my stepdad and that whole side of the family cussed all the time. So, uh, I wasn't like to split between the two worlds. And... Which one did you like more? Like the cussing more because the kid, obviously. But I think like, when I really think about it, it has to go down to like, will I say absolutely never cussing in front of your kid? No. But I also would like them to understand what they are and understand what it means socially and understand what it means when a kid cusses. So, I don't mind you cussing as a kid just as long as, um, you understand what you're doing. Because they can, to your point, can be a tool. But if you're just cussing to be disrespectful and you're just like saying these words to just like... Well, let me clarify. I don't think there's ever a situation that I think that's going to be powerful for a four-year-old to be cussing. Yes, there will. Because both you and I are swear bears. Yes, we swear all the fucking time. But it's, I just know like if there's a kid around, I don't swear. Cover it up or I'm like, oh, yeah. Don't say that, that's bad. Mm-hmm. So that they can understand when a kid cusses, they're breaking a rule. And so... But then it becomes this forbidden fruit where it's a thing that you can't do. Do do to friends. Do do somewhere else. Then I let's at least let's me know that you understand the difference. So you are going to be disappointed in me if I'm speaking to you as normal. Because one of the values system that we do and we both share is we want to talk to our kid like an adult. Yes. And I... At that point. The social animal says that there's a massive difference in terms of potential between a kid who hears X amount of words per year versus one who hears more words per year. And so a very big differentiation in your child's academic potential is how many words are exposed to at a young age. Yes. How many words they learn. And the suggestion is from the time that they talk they learn 10 words a day. Right. So I'm planning on exposing our kid to a lot of language. Of course. I have a very big love, a profound love for language. Of course, yes. But I do enjoy as an adult saying curse words. Yes. So we're going to have the kid around all the time. They're going to hear it. But I'm just saying like they have to know. I'm obviously going to slip up. But they have to know like that's not cool to say. But I think what do you do that like oh, oh, oh, no, it just becomes a thing now. Yes. Let them be a thing. It will still allow them to understand what the curse word is. You see I'm saying? I will never scold them. I will educate them. Hey, look, okay. I know you heard me your mom say fuck. But you got to understand what it means when you say fuck. It's not fair. I am older than you. We're both a human. And I could say it. And no one's going to look at me like this. That little man. Yeah. They're going to look at you like. You're a disrespectful kid. Yeah. You don't understand morals. You don't understand your place here. So it's just more or less like hey, look, I don't care if you curse. Cuss around me, mom, whatever. You know what I mean? As long as you understand it. So I just think in the beginning, there has to be that like we have to try to not cuss in front of them until they understand that this is not a normal world. A normal, this is not a normal word. This is a word that is forbidden, especially for kids. And if you say it, it's going to, it's going to make people perceive you different way. Just like, just like anything else. It's just like sex. It's like, yes, this is an act that can bring you a baby and give you STDs and do all these things. And bring you joy and more. And bring you joy and orgasms. And orgasms. But I'm just saying they understand the full spectrum of what the word is. So I don't think at a young, at a baby, well, let's pick when do you think you'll start cussing in front of the kid? Man, I wasn't really planning. I definitely think in the beginning, I'm not changing my language at all. Well, then I'm actually here. For the first year of life, yeah. I'm not changing my language, my language patterns at all. And I think that it is important for them to hear my voice as my voice comes out and to also a talk to the child looking at dope. I do want you to hold me accountable for that. Yeah, I already, I can already see you mean that. Who's that? Hey, Zimba Zimba. I hate that. You're doing it. I hate that so much. Sippy-Symp, like, you know, using words that are not words. Yeah, no one's a drape. It's a dream, okay? It's not a Sippy-Symp. Okay, I'm glad that we agree on that, like talking to the kid normally. But it has to be aligned with cuss words. So if I do agree with your set, what you're saying, because I also can think in my love and affinity for cuss words, I also do not appreciate when I'm around a kid who cusses. And I don't like movies where children curse, because exactly what the stigma you just mentioned. Is it based in fact? No, because a kid could know a pathora of other words and have a very strong vocabulary, but my impression of them and the impression of the parents does dim when I hear that. So, I- It's tough one. I think we know what it is. Here's the thing. It's like, I love to swear, but I never have slip ups when it counts. No. It's almost automatic. And that's the thing I guess is well too. It just becomes a comfort, it's a comfort language. It's a language of familiarity. And it's a language that's heavy in expression. Yeah. And sometimes when I'm out there in the world, feelings and expressing how I really feel is not that important. Yeah. It's communicating concisely and clearly. Yeah. It's making sure that people understand what my message is versus how I feel. Yeah. How I feel matters to you. Yeah. And how I feel is going to matter to the kid. Yeah. So that's where I think I'm sort of getting tripped up because it's a part of the expressive language that you intimately share with people who are supposed to care about how you feel. If you don't have a social IQ, then you can't be using cuss words. Until you understand the impact, that's when you can start using cuss words. Yeah. And so that's really my stance on it. It's like, but I think I swear in times that you don't think it's good. I remember when you came to see me speak in Toronto. Oh, there's some, yeah, there's sometimes where I'm like, you know, there's a lot of people in here who probably feel uncomfortable, but I know that you're also using it as a tool to make people feel comfortable. To maybe feel comfortable, but to shock you, to shock them to be like, this is not your normal sex edge education. You think I'm trying to be a cool mom? Yes. 1000% So that's what I'm saying. It's like, even you doing that, I might not agree with it, but you're still just strategically using the cuss word to provide an experience for the person that you're talking to. If you're just saying it, but not understanding it, then it's just like, it is a bad-ass little person. Right. And I don't want the kid to be a bad-ass little person. I had a poor use of words regardless. Yeah. You know this about me. Yeah, you try to correct me on so many things, but... Yeah, because if I'm like, that's not the actual correct usage of the word. And what happened? We looked it up and it was. Okay, and that one particular case, Jared, but don't act as if today, today you use the wrong pendant, if I'm honest with you. Okay. Oh, really? Yes. Why? Because it's spelled with an A. But what is the one that I use? The one that you use is the one that is like, it's like a... If something is pending, it's in like an appendent state. Oh, okay. And pendant with an A is something that hangs like a medallion. Oh, okay. I'll plan to there and be like, there's one other spelling stick as well too. But... Oh, really? Yeah. Why'd you tell me? I... Let me go out there like... Well, you hold a grudge against what I do say something, but no... But when we're on a public standpoint, why'd you tell me? That tweet is going viral too. I have to leave it. So, we both expressed our points, but what is the middle ground for the kid? Probably. It's like, I think that's an inconsequential area. You can... We can be on total opposites on that, and just know when you're around daddy. Tish? Cust around me. And if you're around mommy, let me fly. I'm into that. Yeah.