First start, well vegan here, eating meat is unsustainable, it's all cruel, it's a drain on the NHS with people with heart attacks and high blood pressure, eating meat in the first place. Some people enjoy it. Yeah, I know they do, it's sad. Grill chicken is very good for you madam. No, I don't say no, everyone accepts grilled chicken is very good for you. Yeah, well, that's your opinion. No, no, no, it's not actually, it's medical opinion. Yes, yes, yes. No, no, no, it's medical opinion. Oh please, you know, oily fish is good for the heart, fact. Oil fish may be once or twice a week but you have to watch out for the mercury. Now you're going to have to watch out for the plastic as well. Well, I don't have this plastic in the fish, long as you wrap it, long as you wrap it you're fine, that's where the plastic comes in. You can over do meat, I grant you, it's very difficult to make an argument for products such as bacon and sausages but a lean steak every now and again has positive benefits. Well, first you can get away with that one, yeah. Well, so, well we're doing all right here, so I've got fish past you, I've got steak and I've, can I talk to you about ostrich? I have, oily fish up to a point. No ostrich madam, ostrich is positively beneficial. Yeah, well good. You know, there's no fat in ostrich. You're using only food for a while creatures. No, no, they're farmed for it. They wouldn't, ostrich farms are the key, the key is the word farms. These ostrich wouldn't even be there if they weren't being farmed. So they have a lovely time running around or field for a few years and then they end up on your plate. Yeah, well that's fine. You want to eat dead animals? Well, I like that, I didn't grill. Yeah, I know, so and take the pea, that's fine. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, but you do, but you do it. It's all so ignorant. Why? So backward and educated and ignorant. Why? OK, it's unsustainable. Why do you say it's unsustainable? How cruel and disgusting we are about the way it is. OK, why is it unsustainable? Why is it unsustainable? It is unsustainable. The fact is, gloating starving. How many tons of grain and land of water to feed? One cow has some dumb Westerner. Can he estate? Well, please get an education now. Listen, ducks, there are other people than Westerners eat steak, honey. No, this is gone. That's shame. I was going to ask for it for a meal there.