I'm here with Kathy Bookvar. She's from Bucks County and she's a candidate for Cummula of Courts Judge. Hi John. Tell us some about your background. I understand your attorney. That's correct. I'm an attorney. I live in Bucks County at the last almost three years I worked for a national civil rights organization doing voting rights work across the state of Pennsylvania. Before that I went to University of Pennsylvania undergraduate and I went to American University law school. Would you like me to go through my career or would you like to just say I think that's a that's pretty good. I mean you've been recommended by the State Bar Association. You're the only candidate on the Democratic side I believe who's recommended. That's correct. For this year I'm the only one so far and I'm really really proud of it. The traditional evaluation said they recommended me for my wide range of work that I've done in areas of the Commonwealth Court here and then I have the temperament, the intelligence and the integrity to serve as a judge on the Commonwealth Court and I'm really honored for that recommendation. Now explain a bit what Commonwealth Court is and what it does. Absolutely. So there are three statewide appellate courts and those are the Commonwealth Court, the Superior Court and the Supreme Court. The Commonwealth Court is sometimes known as the People's Court because the areas that it covers are areas that every day regular people across the state would need to come into contact with. So for example when workers lose their job and they apply for unemployment compensation that those cases are heard by the Commonwealth Court. If they get injured on the job workers come cases are heard by the Commonwealth Court. You know all the the stuff going on with environmental law and gas drilling and Marcella's shale all those issues go to Commonwealth Court and election disputes and other administrative agency cases. Those go to the Commonwealth Court too. So a lot of different people come in contact with Commonwealth Court for a lot of different reasons. Anything relating to government, local, county, state, whatever in Pennsylvania are held heard by Commonwealth Court. Pretty much that's the case. There are exceptions but by and large that's true. Okay let's talk a bit about the issue of electing women and minorities to these statewide appellate courts. For some reason in Pennsylvania here to see the statewide elected races we really are underrepresented by women and minorities aren't we? Women are getting better but you know still we've got ways to go and certainly people of color are not well represented on our courts. It's absolutely true. Women have done really well in statewide judicial races but the problem with a lot of this is that we don't find a lot of women running or people of color. So I think a lot of the so and women you may know actually Pennsylvania is 46 out of 50 in the country for the number of women serving. I think on our legislature both it may be state and federal. So the statewide courts are the one area where women have actually had a lot of success when they run but the numbers of them running are a few compared to men. So and people of color it's I suspect it's a lot of the same issues. I think a lot of it comes from it takes a certain personality to put yourself out there and say I am so good of a candidate that I will put myself out there and run and a lot of times women at least I know it takes somebody else to suggest and to plant the seed. So I try to go out of my way to plant the seed in people's heads to encourage people that aren't the typical white male. To run for office because I agree with you we need more representation. Yeah the state legislature especially is very underrepresented especially by women there. Tell us a bit more about your personal life your wife your mother. You live in Bucks County. That's correct. My husband is his name is Jordan anchor he's also a lawyer and I have a 12 year old daughter her name is Colette. She's six grade and she's been she's been wonderfully proud of me it's been very exciting to see how happy she is about this race and she really wants to be engaged which has been wonderful. All right well thank you very much.