What according to you is the source of defects in our civilization? I can put it this way, quoting Friedrich Nietzsche, to live is to be unjust. There is a kind of fissure that runs through every human heart which leaves a stain in the world. Every act of human beings is projected into the world that is always already stained. We as human beings, we as beings in time, being of transcendence, we are so to speak irreparable to ourselves. And I think the greatest challenge that we face is not so much how to save the world, but how to make all life flourish in a world that cannot be saved. This is all to meta-physical for me. I want to get physical, really. One definition of the world is the physical nature of the planet. The first thing that Donald Trump says he will do is abandon the climate change accord, but he only came into being last week. It's sort of amazing to me that if we're talking about saving the world, the first thing is actually doing something about arresting the appallingly threatening atrocity of climate change. The fact that Donald Trump, it's not a problem for him, actually, and someone who, by the way, has a large house in Florida where slimy inundation is already lapping the foundations, can do this, means that actually reason is dead. The entirety of the election campaign was a victory of lies, falsehood, irrationality over reason. So the first thing we have to ask ourselves is how do we actually develop a form of communication, which is not intellectual? Exactly. I'm so interested in your brilliantly outrageous interpolation. How do we actually make reason entertaining? How many millennials are there out there in the darkness, actually? If you put up your hands, I couldn't see you anywhere. Right. Okay. Okay. Not enough of you showed up to vote in Minnesota and Arizona. And this is, if we start with the basic question of how to save the planet Earth, then we get to the question of how do we find a language that deals with the entertainment of unreason. Right. But I still want you to elaborate on your opening statement that on the enlightenment which was killed by amusement. Or, right. Why, why you're faith in the enlightenment? Why, Miroslav was talking about, it falls believes of the enlightenment? Well, I have very low threshold of acceptability of the enlightenment. I'm not talking Dr. Panglas here. I'm just saying a possibility of affecting a political decision by distinguishing lies from truth. That's, you know, kind of ground zero of the enlightenment really, things follow from that. That has been essentially confounded. It didn't matter that, that, you know, when Donald Trump was called out of the lie, he, as they say in America, doubled down on the lie. That seems to be something, in the marquee at a condor say, could probably not to anticipate it. Fascism. To tell the tyrannism, authoritarianism in America. This is too much. So, it's unproductive. And it may not be true. Let's be calm and affirm our values. This, I'm just going to say, is unproductive language right now. Let me ask you, how is it working for you? How is it working for you to call people fascists and racists? Brilliant. Are you winning? Or are you, is that a good strategy? We've been having a few days to try it, you know. Was that a good strategy? It's barely a strategic operational planning. Was that a good strategy? I think calm is surrender. I think calmness is capitulation. It was a good strategy. Calm did not work in 1963. It will not work now. We need excitement. But, seemed also important to me is that we in the Western and increasingly in the broader than Western culture have invested all of our energies to speak in biblical traditions, in turning stones into bread, into kind of economic activity that organizes the entirety of our personal but also political, I think, outing lives. But the result of that is always proving to be disappointing. The levels of happiness have not matched the levels of increase in wealth, increased in sense of also physical wellbeing. And I think there's a kind of crisis of meaning that's haunting the world today.