Hi everybody. In this video, Forrest Finn talks about his art business. And I think there's four or five clips in the video. I'll explain why. When we got to his house, we weren't sure what to expect. So we only took our cell phones in. We didn't take any fancy camera equipment. We don't really have fancy camera equipment anyways. But we did have tripod GoPro, things like that. But we had been there probably about an hour. And he said, all of a sudden, he said, aren't you going to put this on YouTube? Aren't you going to take pictures? I said, can I? And he said, sure. So I went ahead and my husband recorded the rest of our conversations. And between when he felt like there was a break in the conversation, he would stop recording. And then he would start back up again. But there were so many stories that Forrest Finn told us about. I really wasn't prepared, honestly, that he would just be so kind and spending so much time with us. It was a wonderful visit. He is just a really generous kind person. So I just want to let you guys know that the video might seem a little choppy like it's been cut up or something. But it hasn't. That's really how the video is. It's different clips that are put together for this. So I hope you guys enjoy. I had to laugh about that. Well, I'll tell you, I've always had a chip on my shoulder because I'm uneducated. My father and my sister's are brilliant. And I tell people, I went to Texas A&M, and that's true. That was there four days. They call me to finance a good pay for my tuition. And I ran out the back door, climbed through the fence, and hitchhiked home. But when I retired from the Air Force in 1972, I think my retirement pay was $800 a month with a wife and two young daughters. And I tell myself, how am I going to compete on? I want my worst client to give me $3,500. That eliminates one-hour modernizing, the restaurant business, JC Pinin. And I wanted to deal in luxuries. And the last thing I wanted to deal in was necessities. The necessities are cheap and they're time consuming and they're... And so to me that meant the art business. But I had no experience, no education, and no art. That was what I was facing. A wife and I plastered a building, sweep it on the floor in Santa Fe. But I told myself I can compete if I can make them think I'm an expert. And so I had a little bit of money left, and I started advertising full-page color in the best magazines of the day. If you advertise full-page color, that means you're an expert. And so it started working out. My first two shows I didn't sell anything, not even a book. And I told myself I had a few bucks left. I said, I'm going to spend this money on advertising. I said, if that doesn't work, I'm going to go work for McDonald's, flipping neighborhoods. But it started working in. After a couple of years, people begin to think that I wasn't experts. I hired a full-time research librarian to have me become an expert. And I used to have museum people, and the director of the Metropolitan Museum wrote me a letter one time. I said, Mr. Finn, can you help me with blah, blah, blah, blah, and I said, he signed his name, Joe Smith Ph.D. And I wrote him back, so sure, the answer is blah, blah, blah, blah. For a fit in, NADT. And they did not a damn thing. And I wanted one more letter behind my name than Ph.D. Nobody ever told me on that. So it's my little fight against educated people. And it's been fun, but I know who the loser is. But it's been so much fun. Because I have my own publishing company. That means I can do what I want to with my books. And I wrote four books about artists. Because if you write a book about an artist, you're the expert on that artist. That's the rule. And that's why I wrote my short book. And then I wrote a second short book. But I wrote a book about William Orley, Eric Sloan, and Nick LaFession, and Leon Gasworth. And when you do a lot of research, and you buy a lot of those paintings, you know, by all smosses you get to know a lot about the subject. One afternoon, I bought 235 gas-bord paintings. I was leaning against the wall up and down my gallery. And you learn so much about technique, palette, subject, little artists do little things in the painting that Gasworth, for instance, he painted three-dimensional paintings. There was a couple of them in Russia and in the Kremlin around. He would take gold leaf and make them round. I mean, they're three-dimensional paintings. It was so much fun to run your hand over that and feel that. After years and years of doing that, you absorb some information and things that they don't teach in colleges. And so that's why I wanted to write my books to tell the other side of the story. And my short books, the Beat of the Drum and the Hooper dances. It's very rare, not a print today, but... I've never been much for bibliography and index and that kind of stuff. It's just too much work for me. But in my short book, I didn't have a... I think a two-page bibliography, but I didn't list anything in my bibliography that I didn't own the original source material for. Oh, okay. Wow. And a wonderful library to read. Ledgers and IRS reports. And that was full of that kind of stuff. And it was with that material that I wrote my passport book. It's written in a different technique than by memoirs. I mean, that was pretty straightforward. Thank you.