Here at the Baris Deres National Monument where a lot of activists and protesters have gathered in defense of the national monument. As you can see press are here, looks like Zinky just pulled up. We're awaiting him to get out of the vehicles. The press have gathered here, it looks like he's visiting the monument. He has 45 days to make some kind of action on review of the monument and so a lot of the tribal leaders are actually present. A lot of people are wondering why is it that he has not met more with the tribal leaders. It seems like a lot of his visit has been orchestrated by the representatives here in the state of Utah. They've been really selective and very careful about who he gets to meet with and so Pandos is here just trying to understand why he hasn't met with the tribes. Okay, it looks like Zinky's getting out of his vehicle now. Governor, is there a reason why you're not listening to tribal leaders or respecting or honoring tribal sovereignty? There are many tribal leaders here. Zinky, is there a reason why you're not listening to tribal leaders? I think it's tribal leaders. How are you? When are you gonna meet with the tribal leaders? It's kind of unfair that you've only met with them for one hour. Is there a reason why you're not listening to them more? Zinky, are you gonna visit with the tribal leaders? Nice. I'm so nice. Be nice. Don't be rude. Thank you.