Well, we've come to perhaps the greenest part of Glastonbury. First of all, these are the green fields. And we find a green MEP here at Smollyscot-Cato, and today's King as well. Now, Dave, you were chief scientific advisor under the governments of Blair and Brown, and a climate change advisor, climate change envoy, and the May and Cameron governments. Smollys, you must be in your element here that we're between a recycling bioglac gas plant, and I saw someone doing a vegan bicycle-powered smoothie maker. I mean, these are your people, this is your event, isn't it? Well, I have many great things in the patch. I represent as MEP, but the Glastonbury Festival is definitely one of the ones I'm very proud of. And as you say, it's a political space as well as being a music space. And you're surprised just how big climate changes on the agenda this year is of Glastonbury Vetter. I think we've seen a complete transformation in people's understanding of what the issues are, and also their willingness to make change. And in a way, people were sitting at home, anxious about this, worried about this, and somehow extinction rebellion has brought that out into the open, and said, yes, you're right. And we need political leadership, and that's really made things different for us as Greens. So Dave, do you welcome this sort of change in interest in climate change? We've been banging the drum for climate change for decades, and suddenly it's center stage. Yes, and so we've been here before, and then it all withered away around the time of the Copenhagen COP in 2009. And then as you are pointing out, suddenly, we've got a tremendous interest. Climate change is back on the front page. Give us an insider's account. Inside the corridors of power, how easy is it to get politicians to think about climate change? Let alone act. It's never easy to get politicians to think about something that they're not familiar with. So the first thing that I had to do with Blair was to familiarize him with the challenges of climate change. Has it been with Theresa May and David Cameron? Now, I'm absolutely sure that both Cameron and May, during that period in government, felt that climate change was not a vote winner. Whereas today, we have Theresa May saying, net-zero emissions by 2050, climate change has become a vote winner again. Do you welcome? Of course. Of course. I mean, that's quite a big announcement for the government to make, isn't it? It's quite a big announcement for the government to make, but why did it take so long would be my question? And secondly, why did they water it down? I'm saying net-zero emissions by 2050, but we're allowed to count emissions that are reduced elsewhere in the world due to British money going there. So I think it's a pity that it's emerged quite as it had. But I'm really strongly welcoming. The idea of net-zero emissions is now embedded, not only in the British government, other governments are also talking about this. Molyscore, OK, so I know you're a green, but do you acknowledge for a conservative government that was a big step in progress on the climate change agenda, wasn't it? Well, I'm afraid that words are cheap, and I'm waiting to see the action. So you can say net-zero carbon by 2050, but what's the point of that if you're supporting heat-throw expansion if you're not investing properly in public transport? If you're making it harder for people to do the things they need to do to address this really emergency situation we're in. But let's take the extinction rebellion cause, which is net-zero by 2025. I mean, that's just six years away. So David, crunch the numbers on that is that even possible. Well, my view is it's a wonderful aspiration, and it would be terrific if we could do it. But no, I'm afraid I don't think it's possible. I do think that we will in order to get to net-zero emissions as a country without counting offsets overseas, we will need to plant two to four billion trees. Two to four billion trees. Yes. That's huge. And isn't that the problem, Moly? I mean, you know, you're 2030 for the great. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's time to sky-stuff. Well, I think that we need to really look seriously at recapturing carbon. The science is very clear on that. We put out so much carbon dioxide now, we need to change the way we use land. How doomed are we? I think we're in a very difficult place, but I'm going to turn that question around and say, can we manage to deal with the climate change challenge? I answer that by saying, what do we do on this whole planet, we human beings, over the next 10 years, what we continue doing and what we start doing will determine the future of humanity for the next 10,000 years. Wow. So the next decade, absolutely critical. And can we turn it around in time, do you think? We've had Greta Thurmburg, we've had a huge noise about it, do you think it's enough? This is exactly why I strongly welcome extinction rebellion, and of course Greta. These two groups and individuals have completely put this back on the front pages. So I don't think when we discuss whether extinction rebellion were good or bad or whatever, that good they've done is because we're all talking about it. That's why you're talking to us about it. We're here at Glastonbury. They've increased the population by 10% in one weekend. People flying in, people helicoptering in from all over the world. How green is this festival? Well, I know Emily, this is very focused on making it as green as she can, but obviously there is an energy impact to doing this, but if people are coming here rather than flying to the Caribbean, then clearly that's better. But should we even be here, Molly? If we're meant to holiday local and keep local... Well, obviously we are. ..in this massive scale. We are. We are. We are a holidaying locally. But I think if we look back at human history, people love coming together, they share ideas, they share opportunities, you know, they have that social time. There's nothing new about that. It's a bit like a medieval fair, but on a larger scale. But I totally agree with you. I mean, you know, I don't fly, and I don't think very many people have come here by plane. It'd be interesting to see the... I mean, Van Morrison's obviously an exception there, but we allow him. But no, I think there is a lot of focus here on reducing waste and also reducing energy use. And the political opportunities from this festival are amazing, because people come here for the music, but they always leave with a different kind of consciousness. Will you find time to see some music, Molly, while you're here? Isn't it an act you want to see? Are you a Kylie fan? I'm hoping I can get some Latin music and maybe even do a bit of dancing. Did it dance? What about you, today? I think what is very important in answer to your question about Dastinbury is the movement to green the global economy is not a movement about taking pleasure out of life. Right? We, for goodness sake, don't suggest that that's what we're trying to do. We're trying to create a cleaner society, a cleaner world where the air we breathe is not killing us. So we can still enjoy ourselves just to save you. It's going to be better. It's going to be a better life. A happier life, less stress, less pollution, better connection to nature, less travel, but as a person who travels a lot, I can say that I wouldn't miss that that much. So we're going to have local economies. Happy people. Festival is definitely going to be part of that. Well, it's got to be. So, Dave, thank you very much.