About Dougan, the principal of EDSA, I'm here in the Dougan studio in our headquarters in Fort Lauderdale. We've had the luxury of working in a lot of different regions in the world and a lot of different regions within the US. And a lot of our focus revolves around bringing projects through construction. When a new project comes in, we approach it really looking at, is it a fit for EDSA? If we agree to work on a project, that means to us that we're going to start with a conceptual design and our ultimate goal is always to get that project built. One of our recent projects in Sonner Construction now is a major renovation of the W Hotel in Fort Lauderdale Beach. We got the job of bringing some life to the entrance that really was pretty bland and didn't have any plant material. It's on a structural slab with parking underneath, so that's a challenge in itself. But in order to create a landscape that lasts, and especially in the urban environment, you have to deal with a hard built environment in order to be able to bring the living component in with the landscape trees, palms, whatever it is and have that survive. It's been in the business a long time, you know, 40 years and I had a tremendous opportunity to learn from the founders of the firm. And one of the cautions I have for myself is that I've learned a certain way of doing things. The industry has changed. Our industry has gotten much more complex. The tools that are available to landscape architects, construction techniques, products that are available, the way we produce our drawings, those are all, that's all a young person's game. And in a way, there's kind of a role reversal where as much as I've learned from experience, I have a lot to learn from new technology, new materials, new ways of building things that I learned from the under people in the studio that I worked with every day.