What's up, we're in Berlin. We're gonna take you down memory lane for the last 40 years of all seven of our albums We started writing blueprints of the black market. I was 15 years old We just started writing. I think with a first record. There's a lot of pressure Obviously, you know, we've done a demo or a couple demos before that With Matt Goldman and that's how we got signed to tooth and nail and then we went to Seattle and made blueprints for the black market With Aaron Sprinkle and Seattle, but before they made that record I was in a band from Seattle actually and We had done an EP with Aaron Sprinkle and he started talking about this band Amber Lynn from Florida We're like, oh wow, that's been it's good. They're totally biting our style Oh, cool, but so yeah, they ended up recording with the same Producer, yeah, well we heard the EP that he had done the Aaron Sprinkle done with acceptance We're like I guess this doesn't suck. So I guess we'll go do it with Aaron Sprinkle So we honestly we heard that record like this sounds great So that's why we ended up doing the record with him so for me I look back on the record even again, not to pat ourselves on our back But even though they'll like cover and the pictures and all that in the record I feel like it was like I mean that was we did all that in 2002 which is a long time ago And I feel like normally when you do things that long ago It ends up being really stupid now you look back and like man what a dumbest but even the record Yeah, it's not embarrassing at all. I mean, I love that record still and I think I think it's cool to To look back that long ago and still kind of like everything and the decisions that we made so yeah I really wouldn't change anything. I mean like I said it's really weird because it was so long ago that it's kind of hard to Remember it like I look back and I'm like what? It's weird. Yeah, it's 15 to so like I feel like when you're younger It's like you know, that's right that memory of making that records right up there with like writing my bike I'm like learning how to read