Back in the year, mumble, mumble, many years ago, I was challenged to replicate a trick that Uri Geller, remember him, did for Barbara Walters on TV. Now what you'll see here first is a very bad quality outtake from a video copy of this program done way back when Barbara Walters had a morning program called Not For Women Own Weight. The two magicians you'll see on the set with me are Mark Wilson from the Magic Land of Alacazam and the late Doug Henning, who was currently on Broadway at that time with his very successful live stage show. Barbara's producer, whose name I've mercilessly forgotten long ago, didn't care much for me and through every obstacle into my path as I tried to work my tricks. Somehow I persevered and rather surprised both Mark and Doug who were in stitches laughing when I told them later how I'd done my sneaky stuff. They'd missed it though they were right in close. Now Geller had bent Barbara's key, a key about like this. She described it as being done with psychic powers of this trick and she was obviously very impressed with it. Let's look at the first part of this video and see just what this old codger somewhere around 33 years ago was up to. A year ago we did on this program, a week on psychic phenomenon. We did it very seriously. One of our panel members was Erie Geller who was a young Israeli and has been tested by the Stanford Institute and by other scientists and is said to have psychic powers. We had the former astronaut Edgar Mitchell on with us who believes in very much an Erie Geller and Randy you've been going around the country. Someone is who Dina used to in the past trying to debunk those who say that it's psychic power. You say it's magic, right? Well, Barbara you see, in what you said just now is something rather revealing to me because you say that he's been tested by the scientists at the Stanford Research Institute. First of all, Stanford Research Institute is not connected in any way with Stanford University though it happens to be on the grounds. It takes its name from its locality and the Stanford Research Institute as an institute did not test Erie Geller. Two scientists there whose specialty is lasers, nothing to do with psychology, nothing to do with conjuring certainly, whose specialty is lasers went through some private tests with Erie Geller under anything but test conditions. And since then the psychology department down there and I've read this in one of the psychological journals has tested them, gave him a hundred envelopes that he was supposed to guess the contents of and he failed each and every one of the hundred. Let me show some things he did with me and I'm a pretty honest person. I'll carry him and we all know. All right, I understand that. No kidding. This is my house key. Erie Geller took it, let's take this other one, it's a matching key. He went like this with it with his finger, that's all, no pressure and the key bent. You can see that and I've carried it around because I found that I'm a believer now. He also people in the audience said that they are keys bent. Well I can't prove that but I can't prove that mine did. Here is my identical key, touch it and make it bend. Now we have another piece of metal and another piece of metal. I didn't use metal, he just used his finger. No that's very true, that's very true but I want to show you a comparison. Okay, another key. Now this is the bent one. Now which camera is taking this? Can we get a close up here now? All right now. You can see the bent one here. There is a definite bend in here. Is that right? Okay, now watch it very carefully. I am going to see if I, this is a different one from this one, this one to duplicate, am I correct? Right. This one has a stamp on it saying, two or seven rest something, this doesn't have a stamp on it. Is there a little stamp on it there? Would you hold the end of it very likely in between your fingers, Barbara? And I'm just going to stroke it, now I'm not putting enough pressure on it to bend it. No. Okay, I'm just going to stroke it with my fingers very likely like this. Now look at the bend that's in the other key. No I won't take my eyes off this key. Very good, I'm glad to hear you say that. Would you shout to the camera please? Now is it bent as much as this key or not? Oh, okay. Are you going to keep this key too, Barbara? On your key, James? Next, Barbara spoke about the drawing replication trick, one of the only five tricks that Geller has ever been known to do. Her producer had challenged me to do it hoping for a failure of course. Barbara had made a drawing to test me and carefully kept it in her hot little hand right until she showed it on the set. Both Mark and Doug thought I'd go down in flames, but I had a couple of twists for them and for the audience. Oh, we're going to show it to you. Okay, very good. I'm glad we showed that. This is where he read my mind and we produced a picture that only I had. Okay, just to say look at me. Visualize everything that you drew once more. I'm going to show what I got and if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, but it really came very strong. I'll just tell you what first I thought it was and what it comes to appear now. First I thought there were two churches with peaks on our two houses. Then it turned to a letter M and then it could be two mountains with a round thing on or two people. Can I show? Yeah, I'd like to hold it. Am I wrong? You're right. I'm right. That's what I got. I'm wrong. You got to let it end. You're right. You may not be because of that, but because my drawing is a drawing similar to one that my child does, it's a mother and child. Oh, that's so cool. That's a bit. We have not had this envelope out of our site. Randy has no way been close to it. The closest you've been to it to my knowledge is right now. We produce it. You put it back in the book. I want to make sure that it is under good control. I believe I can. Barbara, I'm going to ask you to concentrate on what's drawn inside there. I was like, why not concentrate on that? I know, no. Watch this, it's an amazing pleasure. It's a surprise me. It's a surprise everybody. Are you concentrating on what you're doing now? I don't want you to see the end of the pen move, but you may look and say, hmm, I think I'm quite right. Yes, because I'm good. I'm a very bad artist. You have to park me, Barbara. I've made what I believe to be an impression of it. Now, it can't be altered in any way. Would you be open up to see how right I was? Like Erie says, thanks God, I hope I'm right on this. That's the way you said it. Open it up and show it to the camera. It should be so kind. Where's the camera? Is it a camera? It's a little... Well, I don't draw a son. It's a little house and a son. And here's a little person. A house? That's the house. That's the son and that's a little person. Well, your partners are being a very bad artist, Barbara, but I didn't get the son at all. I got the little person, but I got the little person inside the house and the smoke coming out to the top here. That's all we could get of it. Thanks God, you got it. Thanks God, I got this. Yes, we got the house. I'm going to do it. That's good. If you're going to debunk this man, who everybody believes, tell you how to tell us how you do it. I'm going to add the son here to make her a result of the murder. How about that, folks? Andy. Yes, you can't quite see the drawing that I made because it was made with a simple ballpoint pen, not a broad marker as Geller had used. I assure you, it was very similar to Geller's. But notice please that Barbara prayed right into Geller's hands when she revealed her original drawing by inventing the M connection, which he'd meant to refer to the shape of the drawing. In any case, working through great difficulties, I managed to come through. Now, Barbara and I have met many times on many different programs since that event, 33 years ago. And we just don't talk about this. I've never had to give her an explanation. She's satisfied that she doesn't have an explanation, and she's still confounded. But that's the way it should be. You don't explain these things to the people who experienced them because they say, oh yeah, I would have thought of that. But Barbara wouldn't have thought of this at all. Some of you magicians out there, if you watch very carefully, you can see the gimmick that I used. We thank you for watching this latest episode of James Randy Speaks. For more of James Randy and the Educational Foundation, make sure you visit Randy.org.