This is outside news core pet court is a parent company of course a Fox news channel the most important news network in the world and we are well if you could agree with that there you go and just just hours hours away I really think about it from the big day itself and where we stand we're in a very bit is the shopping area in of itself on 6th Avenue to call the Avenue of America's in midtown bad not we're not too far from radio city musical we've got a lot of stars and pretty big folks in and out joining us here throughout the course of the next 45 minutes or so but you know we never keep that far from politics last week at this time I was in Iowa for the big debate now the question is in that state whether a revolution could be of the making and that fellow on the left you see is the guy who could be bringing it Ron Paul the front runner right now in the Iowa caucus is he joins us right now from Texas congress and Paul very good to have you thank you Neil good to be with you are you surprised that not only the front run of you've actually been staying the front run of her better part of a week which is at least in recent polling history unusual that that with a week and a half or so to go the pressure is on to maintain it any of you about that yeah you know I guess I'm nuts I'm supposed to say I'm not surprised and I expected all along now I'm a little bit surprised but of course very pleased I was always convinced that the message would be very popular and very necessary I wasn't quite sure that I would be the messenger that could deliver it so things are going very well on the crowd for getting bigger not smaller the enthusiasm is growing and I'm talking to more than just the young people in the college kids the retired people coming out so there's been a different shift here in the last month Congressman of you probably heard Terry Brant said that governor of Iowa Republican governor of Iowa said if you were to win the state he's telling a lot of people will ignore that and focus on who came in second what did you think of that well I was surprised because he's been pretty generous in the past and I don't know whether that he didn't mean it to sign the way it did but it did sound a little bit strange but if that was a literal translation and that's what he meant I think it diminishes the whole process of democracy and elections what's the purpose of doing it you know they say well he gets his supporters out what that's what I'm supposed to do maybe I solicited a God and approach people who weren't the ordinary voters you know like the independence and maybe young people decide to come out of the people who've been disenchanted so I would say the dismiss the election wouldn't be very good but I don't think it's just a governor I think there are others who have handed that that this would be a monkey wrench into the electoral process no you're right it's not just the this office Republican I mean they've been many of the same some of my colleagues at Fox I may note of it who say that your win would minimize and and and even trivialize Iowa in future elections how do you feel when you hear that kind of stuff well you know what the first you think well this is terrible but on the second thought sometimes this sort of helps because it certainly helps the supporters the people who might not have been paying much attention you know they might even become more it's certainly energizes me because you know I might be you know at a steady pace doing the same thing over and over again and not getting a little any extra excitement but then you get the point and say boy wouldn't that be neat if you could really beat them and have them eat a little crow so I think this is energized the campaign and the fundraising the other day when some of the stuff was coming out somebody called and said you know what our fundraising has just gone up again that's a really they want to be the more comes out the more the fundraising clicks up yeah that's what's happened so it's sort of ironic that maybe we need a few more people criticizing what's going on and and express the disenchampment of my election it'll be more fundraising and probably more TV and more votes for us so congressman when you do get to a front-runner status as you have an R invariably they start digging more into the past these newsletters your name was associated with in the mid-90s our scene is ready to be racist they say that your racist how do you respond to that now well I don't think anybody calls me racist I think the charge which could be a correct charge is I was pretty negligent as a publisher of a newsletter not paying more more attention because it isn't a bit ironic as a civil libertarian you know I'm the one that really champions civil liberties and regardless of race-created color and you know even sent a CNN that sort of stirred this pod did a poll the other day and they took all the candidates all the Republican candidates and I came out the best of all them in appealing to those in the minorities so I would say that maybe what this will do is stir up the defense because you know I I addressed the drug war and how the prison system isn't worked the judicial system is very unfair to my minorities nobody else would dare touch that so in many ways what they're trying to portray me as is exactly opposite of what I am but I don't think it'll stick I mean they've been trying to do that for years this is pretty much old hat because that was I mean those letters were written maybe close to 20 years ago where I think you're right I think the bigger point is that they're leaving aside the racist charge which I think those who have looked at your record might might think otherwise but but I I think what they're trying to say congressmen and this is a wrap that you've confronted that your your your detached your your alloo for that you're not paying attention to these details and sometimes your name or your your your your very person can be dragged into something that you're not and that as president this is a this could be a problem what do you say to that well I would say that maybe that's part of human nature because I think Obama was charged with a few associations that he was not very proud of so no I think that if somebody thinks I'm perfect then they're they're going to be disappointed but I think in management I've done a lot of management when it comes to my businesses my medical profession and in my congressional offices and we get pretty high marks but to say that I was never negligent you know back in those days I was practicing medicine and though I was involved with the letter especially on the economic issues and wrote about the you know the financial bubbles which you and I have talked about so often I did participate in that but to really pay the close attention and and you also have to see this in context I was I've been publishing a letter a Freedom Report plus that investment letter for since 1976 and I would say percentage wise this is probably one hundredth of one percent or even less of all the thousands and thousands of pages and and most people see those letters as being investment letters they were hard money newsletters and that's what almost anybody that knew any about it so yeah he had a newsletter was a hard money newsletter then let me switch gears a little bit Donald Trump announcing he's an independent now many say greasing the skids for potential independent run for president what do you think of that now to each his own I don't know I mean he may do it I don't if you'll do it but if he really wanted to be president why did he I did he walk away why did he become you know concern that he couldn't do it as a Republican you know so I have no idea what he's going to do and I don't think he'll be calling me for advice I don't think he's going to come and ask for an appointment to come see me to get in advisor any endorsements I'm not expecting that to happen my if you never kissed his ring like virtually all the other candidates at well you know I just didn't think it was necessary or appropriate I mean how could he endorse what I'm doing I mean my positions are pretty much opposite of what he talks about I mean he he's not he doesn't believe in free markets he likes the federal reserve he and he he's not a free trader he likes tariffs I mean so there's not much that we we have in common so we won't be seeing you at the front tower anytime soon Ron Paul for me we won't be seeing you at the Trump tower anytime soon oh no not likely I mean he if he if he wants to converse I'll be glad to take his call very good congressman well thank you very very much when we come back we're going to