It's been an amazing year for the Pies so far. It's your second season. How are you finding it all? Yeah, no, it's going really well. Yeah, compared to last year, I'm really competitive, so I hate losing. So yeah, this year's been really good. I'm winning and hopefully we can win on the weekend and just keep winning and I'm really excited. Hopefully to play finals and go as deep as you can. Yeah, it's been unbelievable. How have you found the changes down at the club? Obviously, McCrae's come in, Buckley's gone out. So how's the sort of mood and vibe down at the footy club because it's looking like you guys are absolutely loving life. Yeah, the mood's really good. Vibes vibes are up when you're winning. Everyone's pretty happy and no one really expected us to go well and I don't know if we expected to go that well. So yeah, we're sort of just playing at week by week and we're really excited to see what happens. It seems like to me, Buckley's the sort of coach that you, or like a high school teacher that you respect, like they're really stewing and authoritative but you don't want to get on their beds. Obviously you respect them. But then Craig McCrae seems like the real fun type of PE teacher who you don't want to make much, do some point because he's just such a happy guy. Is that a fair sort of judgment? Yeah, I'd say so. Me and Buck's hasn't really had that much to do with each other just because I wasn't ready to play FL when he was there. Yeah, he never coached me so into a game, I guess. So, yeah, FL is a very interesting character. We love FL. He's just, yeah, he's always happy and bubbly and that really makes the group shine, I think. That young crop down there as well, like they had a bit of a transition a couple of years ago, the Pies where they've blooded a lot of youth and I reckon you would have been in one of those drafts. But it just seems like the whole team's filled with like young, exciting 19, 20 roles. Yeah, the teams, we have a good demographic of age, I guess. We have some really good leaders as you could tell, like Pandals and Scythe and the old guys that are looking after us and then, yeah, like you said, the young guys, me, Nick, Bo, Oli, yeah, there's a few reefs injured but yeah, there's heaps coming through which is really good and you need that for the next years to come as well. Yeah, exciting times for Pies fans. They knocked off the days, knocked off the blues, so the guys were hot boys. Yeah, absolutely. It's hard to talk about your season this year personally without talking about the main man himself, Kane Corns. I'll see. How did you find that challenge of been all the chat on the Sunday footy shows and the SC ends? You've clearly responded to it brilliantly, but how were you in that moment? Yeah, I love Kane Corns now. For you, yeah, at the start, like, you don't even know what you're doing. You've played six games, been handed a GoPro and you're just living in the moment and yeah, you're 9-Ein and you say light work and you don't really think that it's going to be that big of an issue until yeah, it comes up and I don't know. It's been a bit of a challenge at the start and then I sort of just tried to let my footy do the talking and once you're playing good footy, you know, it really can knock you out. So how did you have a plan on how to handle it? Because it's obviously very intense and the media scrutiny, I think at Collingwood, it's probably the one club where they get like 10 fold the media scrutiny than any other club. So when there was articles on what night and Kane Corns is hopping on board, did you have a plan of how to handle it or did you just, as you said, go back to your footy? Yeah, I guess there was a little bit of a plan. I love, I'm a phoenix, I've gone on my phone. I was a love going through and looking at articles of people who's playing well. I'm massive footy enough before I got drafted, probably not anymore, but yeah, I had to probably get off my phone a little bit more than I would have liked. Yeah, my friends knowing that you can't, like at the start, it's cool, you're in the media, like they send it, you're in the media, but yeah, my friends learning that it's not as simple as yeah, you're getting attention and stuff. It actually has effects on your mental health when it's very serious, but yeah, it's sort of just like I said before, you have to get back to playing footy and if you play well, it goes away and we saw that. Yeah, well, you responded beautifully. And so did Kane Corns, he dyed his hair blonde, so when you saw that, how did you feel? I guess right. Yeah, that's go-or-or-op. But obviously you dyed the hair blonde, and I just don't know whether you're completely aware, whether we inspired you, but we actually blazed the trail for you to walk on. Both Kane and I are different points of our adolescence than young adulthood decided to venture in the blonde hair territory. If you could just give us a quick judgment on how. So, right us out of TAN and we'll see who's is better. So this is my first start looking a bit like Goku. Yeah, that's a bit yellow. That's a bit yellow. Bit urin yellow, okay. That's not bad. I loved it. I love it though. Anyone are 10. 10. Oh, that's good. Geez, tough to beat. That's good. If you thought that was yellow, I can't wait for you to see. More yellow than cold play. Also, also when I had this haircut, so my mate, we got into like having haircuts at home and we were inspired by Sergio Aguero who had this haircut that it wasn't the shortback in sides that stopped to hear. He cut it sort of in the middle of his head, so that's why half my scalp is missing. And then we went blonde as well. No, good isn't. Can't be a 10 jack. Talk as soon as you can. What do you think about that? That's, that's in some good. It just can't be a 10. Oh, you look like you should be damn on the train stage. Asking for darts of kids. That's art. Yeah, that's in some good areas. Funnily enough, I'd never had much luck with the ladies before. And that was in like the Justin Bieber era when he'd just gone blonde and what do you mean, and sorry came out. And for some reason, sort of in the dark, deep, simple Emmys, it's what I helped a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Notice that you didn't give him a rating. Was that by design? I was a purposeful decision. Yeah, we'll leave it out there. We absolutely loved the way you go about your football, especially in the small forward, that pressure, that antagonistic type style. Is that the style of footy that really brings out the best in yourself? Yeah, 100%. I love getting under the people's skin. Sort of, sort of makes the game enjoyable, I feel like. My favourite player is Toby Green before I got drafted. So, you know what he does. So, yeah, taking a leaf out of his book. Yeah, I love just, you know, getting under the people's skin, making it fun. If they bite back, getting a 15 years kid, you know, that was, I wish Johnny kicked the goal. Yeah, just stuff like that is, it really lifts the team up, I feel like as well. Do you pre-meditate any of the antics, like you think, oh, if I kick him once to go, I'm going to go this short. I'm going to hold the ball out when I'm running in. Or does that just happen live in the moment? Yeah, I think a lot of them happen live in the moment. The, the essence, I already knew I was going to be like, the friar one was, yeah, like I said, you're, you're 9-E and you're kicking a goal over him for every when there's 40,000 in your beat and the best side in the comp nearly. Yeah. Yeah, I just, yeah, playing off instinct and doing whatever. Have you got anything in store for us next? And if I could make a suggestion, something I don't think we see enough in the football landscape is a bit of a, mate, your shoelaces are on tight and then just bang the flick up the nose. I reckon that had, that had properly catapult you into the start of the year. That would probably be too much. That'd probably be, you know, uh, uh, uh, uh, wakes for, for the time being. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's pretty, pretty. Prohibited contacts. I'll know the Gabriel, Jesus, celebration soon. Which one is that? I'm a bit APL, mate. Oh, I am. That's a lie. So maybe, probably not against the North, because you can't say that. Yeah. Maybe not. But moving on. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was going to be a little bit more fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.