It's like them because they're really strict because you're leaning on here so you're having got all that pressure on your lower back as if you're doing barbell rows. This gives you the support and just takes a lot of swing out of it because even people that do barbell rows like this, they start swinging like that or they start standing up too much whereas this just keeps you in the right position and pretty much you can only use your back because you know if you're laying here like this and you're rowing, you can't really pull up because of the weight here. You might be able to do a little bit but you're not going to be cheating as if you're doing standing and stuff so it makes it stricter and you're only using your back because you can use the bar, you can just get two dumbbells. So it's a lot safer on your back stricter and better overall. Where's that energy where it's like a surfboard, you lay on it like this, you feet were off the ground and everything. Well I'll get gone call Matt and he'll wheelbarrow you.