that you both have a fascination with knives or you had she's passed away since then but she was fascinated with knives you're also fascinated with knives is that right yeah i've collected weapons inside a little girl and um my mom went i went to the so when you were a little girl you asked Santa for a great name like i worked my group i went to the um the Renaissance Fair and i was a little girl and there was all these uh kind of you know it's kind of the mind of history and it's just there's something beautiful about them and traditional and just different countries of different weapons and blades and there's just something beautiful about them to me and you practice with these i guess they're called butterfly knives right