So wouldn't you say that the attempt to claw back or order right to a freedom of speech isn't so far absolute as instrumental and based on that therefore there are some cases where freedom of speech of some individuals can be curtailed if we want to get a better appreciation of a low-goss and a better inclusion of more voices that are currently being shut out as a result of the extremity and radicalism of those select few wouldn't you say that's the case thank you well there's a very simple answer to that which is yes but all elaborate I mean the first thing is like I'm not an admirer of hate speech laws but that doesn't mean that I'm not even enough to think that there's no such thing as hate speech so obviously if you've ever been involved in an extremely serious argument you know perfectly well there's such a thing as hate speech because you've probably uttered some so you know so and and there's there's also no doubt that there are forms of speech that are utterly reprehensible and some of those are actually already punished by law