President of Russia, George Bush when he invited him to his ranch, he said that he looked into his eyes and this people are demonizing him, but he saw, saw after looking into his eyes. Bill, I mean then Barack Obama wanted to have reset. Then all kinds of other people tried to decay. He would try as well. And you listened to Moscow was a big controversial, some people were surprised, you went and you look into his eyes. What you saw and do you think that you have some extra position now to be like one of the EU leaders who have special, I mean, even you to him, when it comes to have some negotiations of tough issues, because we are still in very acute phase where we don't know. So do you have special relations to lighten people to you? No, I don't have any special relations to him, but I think it's necessary also in conflict to talk to both sides. When I decided to go first to create afterwards to President Putin, I talked to him about his acts, was President of the Commission, Mr. President of the Council, was the Chancellor of the Chair of the Union, Mr. President of Poland, because he's one of the strongest leaders about that. And so, well, when I was there, I saw a man who was in his own war logic. Before I go to Moscow, I was in Butcher, and it was the first time in my life in a soy mass grave. And I think it was necessary and it was right to confront it instead. I think it's necessary to talk not only with a phone call, it's only necessary yet to look each other into the eyes. And now, the Austrian position is really new now because, in former times, we always are often declared because of our neutrality, it's not possible to do that or do the other things. Now, we are really clear. We decided all sanctions, we support the delivering of ammunition and weapons, we can do it ourselves, but we support it. And I think, if you have an opinion, you have to talk about that. And yeah, you have to confront him with that and you have to always try to find a new way how to reach this person in finding a kind of mechanism for a ceasefire or to the end of the war. And this is the reason why the international war at the process is talking to both sides, also to the aggression. It's necessary because on the other way there will be no war prism as exchange. And the secretary general of the United Nations is doing the same. I'm not naive. It's not, it was not a friendly talk. But I think, yes, it's not now the time to feel comfortable. Yeah, we have to risk something for peace and the ceasefire. We have to risk something for the people in Ukraine. And yeah, we have to do more than we do now. And maybe the discussions, yeah, also, yeah. I think it doesn't matter. The democracy is normal that there are discussions. It's necessary. This is democracy. There are no discussions in the Russian Federation that's a pity. So I think other chancellors, prime ministers should do the same. We have to confront him. We have to bring him back to the table to talk to Zilenski himself. What kind of scenario do we have for the end of this conflict? And all conflicts ended with negotiations. There can be a victory, but you have to negotiate what is our fate. And in the question of wheat, I told it before, we don't have time. We have to find solutions now. And it really a big question, what does this mean for the security in Europe? I will tell you something. We are in a special position in Austria, more than the Slovak case. Now we protect more than 75,000 Ukrainians. And in the same time, I have 21,000 asylum seekers from all over the world, Syria, Afghanistan. 21,000? Now. You know what does this mean for the end of the year? So it's a security question. What does it mean if there is hang on the world? If no Zakhra guys, these people are best.