Are you a history buff? Do you study that kind of stuff at all? No, not really. I'm an art buff and I... Art buff? I want to talk to you about Rothko. Oh man, don't try and steal me. Tozefrucci. Oh, what? Say it again? Tozefrucci. Yes! Yes! I don't even care if I get letters. I went to the Tape Modern Museum years ago in London and they had like... it was a bathroom shelf and like a glass of water and the artist called it Oak Tree. And then underneath it there was an interview. It was like, why is it Oak Tree? Because I say so. I'm like, ooh la la. Yeah. It went quite cost $8 million. And so I never went back there. Well, you know, it's... Have you seen Banksy's movie, Exit Through The Gets On My Necks? You've got it. You've got to see that movie. That's great. Now, I suspect there is a conspiracy theory that Banksy and Shepard Ferry put this together and it's all a hoax. Either way, if that's true, it's even better. Right. And you really must see it because it is... It slices and dices the idea of, you know, street art and the commercialization not only of street art but of all art. It's very interesting. Well, I just have a problem with a Rothko or like a Pollock. I mean, whoa, whoa, whoa, easy. Well, I can see what I want. This is the way. Yeah, but I'm just saying, I'm just saying, Pollock, easy on Pollock. Pollock's a little different. But anyway, any sort of abstract art, I have a problem with it because I just... I know there's skill and there's like tonal whatever... I can't buy. Like, I don't understand it. Like, I bought a portrait... A 16th century portrait recently, this old lady. And I was the only person that bid on it. It is beautiful. Right. And this must have taken hours and hours and hours and hours. I tell you what I think it is. This is, as I understand it, and I'm sure you'll tell me otherwise, internet. But this is, as I understand it, that it was born out of... I believe it was Dushon, right? Right. Who, in the rejection of the impressionist, was trying to reject retinal art, right? Right. And to make it more cerebral art. So you're saying, art doesn't just have to be a visual experience. It can be a more visceral or maybe intellectual experience than just something you look at a pretty picture. I know. Now, I think that that, you know, if that leads on to perhaps surrealism and cubism, I think that that's a worthwhile way to go. My only feeling is abstract expressionism. Kind of like, you make up your own rules, and I kind of don't know if I buy it. That's all right. And then, if you return to retinal enjoyment of it, then it's all right. Oh, look, that's a nice blue thing. Then that's... That's the thing, but the nice blue thing costs $40 million. Well, that's the... Quasal. And that's a different argument. That's the commercialization of art right there. I mean, do you ever see the Boyle family stuff? No. Boyle family stuff is great. And what they do is they look at a piece of sidewalk, like with a little, you know, potato chip wrapper and a little drain, and they recreate it, like, exactly, and put it on a wall. And it sounds like it'd be... Grogging! No, then you look at it and you go, this is awesome. That's what they're doing. Marit and that. Yeah, right. I just don't believe it. I don't buy it to it. I don't like it. And so I don't buy it. Well, you know, if you're going to spend your $40 million that you earned on the high castle... Exactly. On Amazon. Yeah, on Amazon. On Amazon. They don't just... What did we learn on the show, didn't I, Greg? Oh, real? Towards the end of the show, I looked into the audience and I saw that Richard Rice was here. Richard, it was a kind of coincidence. You hear Richard tell the ladies in general what you do for a living? Well, I'm an art dealer, but I have to say I don't sell Rothko. LAUGHTER CHEERING Well, let me just ask you, then, Richard. There's a well-respected figure in the world of art. Um, Roscoe, abstract expressionism. What I said about Duchamp, is that true? Uh, yeah, he was the first artist to do art for art's sake in art by chance. So he started by climbing up on a ladder and he just dropped string on the floor and wherever it landed, he'd call it art. LAUGHTER He was right. Who's the man, everybody? Welcome, Roscoe. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE