I thought here we go again America. It's always this big game of deception and the military industrial media complex. That's what I thought. Where are your thoughts on CNN here? That they are a tool of the war machine and that they lie to the people in cahoots with the politicians and the war makers. What was your problem with them last night? My problem with them last night is that they were calling it over in front of my house, my capital, in my state. Who are these people? They're not even from Wisconsin and they're calling it over with a smile on their face. That is my problem with CNN. What do you guys, what have I nice for you guys? Who knows? We're working on paying rent and raising children. Some people are going to sing songs and pretend like it's okay. That's what those people are doing over there. Other people are going to get really angry. It's not like we're organized. It's not because anarchists are against organization. I am an anarchist and I'm in favor of organization. They try to destroy our organizing and they do a good job of it. That's why we're pissed. That's why you can use that always as a weapon. Our anger is a weapon that you use. Look at the angry violent protesters. I'm angry because this society is broken and there's no way to fix it and you keep blaming me. Black women with children that are on welfare or whatever. It's like no, actually that's not who we should be blaming. We need to all look at ourselves. We all need to be leaders. Each one of us is a leader or should develop those leadership qualities because I'm not in charge. You know what I mean? You ask me what's next? I don't know. I'm sad. I'm really depressed. I hardly didn't even want to come out here because I knew that the solidarity sing along would just be singing and not going up to the offices of the politicians and saying, hey, you called the end of the recall last night. You conceded when all the votes weren't even in. You know, like if you concede before the votes are in, that increases the thought that something's going on behind the scenes. And you want to engender trust within the population, not suspicion, especially in a situation like this. You know, it's like an insult. It's like a slap in our face. It's like saying, oh, be obedient now. Just go back to what you're doing. The recall's over. We concede I'm such a good man. I'm going to be a big guy. And as if it's between two guys. You know, what politician A and politician B? You know, it's, anyway, it's very frustrating to be an anarchist in America. Let me tell you. And the more frustrated I get, the more mean you guys become towards me. And I really hate that. So anyway. What would you like to see happen? And what are your parades going to happen with your next few months? What I would like to see happen is mass rebellion. I mean, people rising up and channeling their rage into positive, beautiful, poetic, amazing creative energy, which I saw a little bit of that last night. I saw a whole lot of that when we took over the Capitol in February and March of 2011. That's what I would like to see. I would see, I'd like to see a return to that energy of cooperation, organizing, people helping each other out, people getting food for each other, saying, we don't agree with our government. And if we stand together, then we win. And we can be forceful and take over this space because it's our space. That house, that government is our government. That government does not own me. I own that government. And so I would like for people to have that attitude and come together. That's what I would like to see. What I think is probably going to see is that the tactics of the government and the military industrial media complex work. And people are depressed, they're divided. We are so worn down. We are so tired and mad and reduced, you know, torture tactics and military tactics work. And then just blame the victim because I'm angry and I'm tired and I'm going to like look haggard or something because, you know, I've just not got my community anymore. You know, unless I just want to go to church and sing hymns and be quiet and just sing hymns, then I've got community. But how real is that, you know, like they're destroying our livelihood, which is the air and the water and the soil and the ecosystems. It's being destroyed by the military industrial media complex. And I'm not going to just sit around as an individual. I'm not going to just sit around and watch TV and eat McDonald's and stew the wound. I'm going to fight. I'm going to fight. So that's what I'm going to do. And I love Miles. Miles is my comrade and he's also a fighter. And so he and I will at least have our own little duo and Margaret Mead said it. And she said, never question what a small group of citizens can do to change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. And there are small groups of citizens in Madison and in Wisconsin that I have a lot of faith and trust in our spark and our dignity, you know, our respect for ourselves to rise up in the best way that we can. And may it be graceful and poetic and beautiful so that all of the cops just take off of their riots suits. And this beautiful chance in Chicago, I went on to Chicago to protest NATO. And there were riot cops in front of the mayor's house and they looked all mean and menacing, you know. And we all started dancing and saying, hey, hey, what do we say? We said, you're sexy. You're cute. Take off that riot suit. You're sexy. You're cute. Take off that riot suit. You know, so that rage that I feel can be channels into beauty and delight and humor. And that's what was happening during the capital uprising a year and a few months ago. And they don't want that to happen because that means that we're getting organized and we're, you know, self-determining. And none of that is what they want. They want us to be obedient. And I'm not obedient. Nobody, I am the master of myself. I rule myself. And nobody else rules me, you know.