Climate change is a factor and it's a factor that's growing in people's decisions to migrate. I'm Sophia for Migration Matters. We've all seen the headlines, right? Millions or even billions are going to be moving to Europe just because of climate change, right? It's a very Western view to distinguish between economic and environmental drivers of migration. There's social, political, economic, environmental, and demographic drivers of migration. But climate change affects all of those factors. We need to remain extremely cautious when we project numbers because the number of people who will migrate in the future will depend not just on climate change itself, but also on a lot of other political and economic drivers and demographic factors which we don't control. Climate change is a real concern but how it actually affects migration? Well, that's a lot more complex than it's usually made out to be.