I'm Jerry Lane and I'm an advisor at the Haven Museum and today I'm talking about my favorite character. I hate calling him a dummy but it's Jerry Mahoney. Jerry Mahoney was pretty much the first figure that I got personally involved with watching Paul Winchill on television at some point. I didn't know him but I was about eight and a half, nine years old and watched his show all the time. My father knew Winchill's account and arranged for me to come to the show and see the show in person and meet Winchill after the show. Well I took the subway from Brooklyn to Manhattan for the first time by myself eight and a half years old. My mother dropped me off at Brooklyn, my father met me at the other end of the line and took me to the studio, we watched the show and waited with baited breath. We went down the hall, Paul was still in his role, still makeup, still sweaty. We were introduced, as I said I was eight and a half. He said so let's see you do something. I didn't say that I brought anything, I had not brought anything with me and I don't even think he hadn't knucklehead yet at that point in his TV career. So he turned around and handed me Jerry Mahoney. He had me do that and I don't know what I said. Oh yeah, oh, Chihuahua is finished, that's good, oh you, whatever I said. And it was pleasant and my father felt it was time for us to not intrude any further on this TV star. And so he said thank you very much for seeing us and we started to walk out and I said thank you. We were part way out of the door when I heard a kid you want to be a ventriloquist? I said yes sir, now he was about 26 at that time on television. He said you want to be a ventriloquist? I said yes sir, I do. He said then we'll see you here every week at my show and we'll talk about working about it. And that led to a friendship and a working relationship and I became his protege. I came to the studio every week now. My parents didn't mind my taking this subway back in Fortesford, Paul Winshal. Jerry Mahoney, he started doing ventriloquism when he was very young, he had polio and he was young. So now he's in high school and decided to make his own ventriloquist dummy and he was aided by his professor of teacher whose name was Gerald J.E.R.O. Gerald Maiden. From Gerald Maiden he got Jerry Mahoney. So the first Jerry Mahoney he made in woodshop in high school. Well he won the major Bose amateur on radio and was traveling with him and was in Chicago. Of course the ventriloquist in that era, around 1937, in Chicago knew about Frank Marshall. And he went to Frank Marshall and he said I'm in town for two weeks. Could you make me a professional dummy? And Marshall said come back in two weeks, I'll have something for you, 35 dollars. Two weeks he came back and he told me he said I hated the dummy Frank Marshall made for me. It wasn't what I was looking for but he had one sitting there already finished that just called to me. That was the Jerry Mahoney I wanted that he did carve. So instead he just left that one that Frank had made and you started using the other Jerry Mahoney. There was a point where he and his wife were moving and he called me and he said Jerry we're going to be moving. Can I leave a couple of things over at your house until we get settled? I said yeah. I said yeah. The next eight, nine months I had all the poll and it was carried just sitting on the couch in my office. I think this is the first public time I'm saying I would pick them up. Look in the mirror and go oh gee at least Lynch. Your hand feels a little funny. You don't look right Lynch. I'm like when you say I'm doing the thing with the eyes and doing the head swirl that you would do and everything and they become my wife Jerry would go are you playing with them again? No, no, just passing by and we're talking. You know and I would pick up Nuckold and you will say how you do them so we go well you're surrounding look a little different you know I just play with them and then one day the call had a calm Jerry I got to pick up the dummies we're all set I got a place for him. So I picked him up but for eight, eight, nine months Jerry and Nuckold and the gang lived with me. So when you come to the museum make sure you get to the WS Burger building and see Jerry and the other styles of Jerry Mahoney that were mass produced and down the other end Nuckold head and this is their home and they're glad to see you as we all always are.