Life doesn't go in the way that you ever expect. And I think you hold on to those days that have promise and have that excitement because that is, I think, a really special thing to have. But I think then you also look into the reality of situations and what happens. And I think that's also special in a different way because that's real. One, one, one, one, one, one, one, one. So these are some ice crackers, and we have some fun cards that we have not dipped into. I'll pick one for you and you pick one for me. Okay, I heard orange is really good. Oh man, I heard that the orange ones are the ones that are the most diabolical of them all. What is the mistake people often make about you? Ooh, you know what, this is gonna sound really funny and not to play and joke on it because there is a subsistence ramification. A lot of people, now, because we have cameras everywhere, a lot of people didn't always black for a longest time. Really? That's the biggest mistake. I'm not even able to look. And they would just say that to you? And they would, yeah, I mean, it was, and I think that it was, you know what, and what I loved about that is that it gave me the opportunity to show the diversity in this world. And it's show that, yeah, that there are folks who look like me dressed like me. Yeah, not to get into what people have stereotypes for. Exactly, exactly. That was like the biggest, I've literally, I've been in the radio for a while and there were times before there were cameras everywhere and social media was a thing. And people would call up and they would, you know, how's going on Max? Well, that, that, that, that, that. And when it would meet me at an event somewhere, they'd be like, yo, you're black. And I'm like, yeah, like for real, like what you have. Yeah, I like. Yeah, like this, my whole life, I haven't been, you know, I haven't changed, you know, but the, but the thing was, it's just because I was in, I was in a slice of the world and the slice of my industry that there weren't a lot of people who look like me. But what I learned at a very young age within my career was how important that was for me to step into my, my greatness and step into my, my position and allow folks to understand and know that, you know, this world is full of so many different types of people, you know, men, women, transgender, gay, straight, Filipino, Mexican, black, Puerto Rican, and, and, and I'm telling you, there's space in the room for us all if we just get out of our own minds. That's pretty special. You can do it. It's pretty special, right? That's the superpower of all of us. I love that. That's my superpower. So that wasn't a tough, that was a two tough question. No, that wasn't a, all right. Here we go. There's last one for you. If you have to relive the same day for the rest of your life, which day would you choose? Oh my god. That's a good one. That's a hard one. You've had a lot of amazing days that imagine. I, there's a few that come to mind. I remember when Austin Alley won, like, a bunch of kids' choice award. Yeah. And I had, like, announced my first record deal. And it was just like, there was so much excitement in that air. And I remember it was just, it was a really, really special day. Yes. So that day, I think, was definitely a really cool one. I would relive. I think I performed on the trip to the door last year. OK. Yep. Step out of that stage, must have been, like, happy. Yeah. And I performed at the Rocks see a few years prior. And I just remember, I think sometimes you want to have magic happen. And it doesn't always happen. And I felt like it didn't, you know, I had a lot of people come, or friends, who, you know, everyone shows up. But they're also kind of like, you kind of have this weird vibe where everyone's like, I'm here as a favor. And you're kind of like, oh, thanks for being here. Yeah, I like it. And the troubadour, which just, I was so scared I was going to have that same feeling again from the Rocks see, and the troubadour was, like, one of the best nights in my life. Last moment, however. It was magic. I could not have asked for magic. There's one thing that would have made it a little bit more special, but I would relive that day, for sure, over and over again. How proud are you of? Like, what would little, or essay, to big laureate now? I think she would be like, you have an iPhone? No, I think that she would be proud. I think, I think, you know, listen, life doesn't go in the way that you ever expect. And I think you hold on to those days that have promise and have that excitement, because that is, I think, a really special thing to have. But I think then you also look into the reality of situations and what happens. And I think that's also special in a different way, because that's real. Yes. And it's finding the beauty and the reality versus the beauty and the promise of what is to come. And I think little Laura, who it's so funny when I think about little Laura, I don't, when you're that age, you don't feel very little, but yeah, you think of it. Yeah, you obviously didn't, because you were writing songs when you're four. So you definitely felt grown. No, but you looked back and I'm like, oh my God, it was little Laura. I think she would have seen a lot of things that have gone through and been like, very proud. Very proud. Well, I'm having our family that we have here. I mean, the conversation got so hot that the camera was burned down. I know. What are we? It's, this has been like the coolest thing to not only catch up to be able to have just a fun conversation where, again, I think a core message throughout this combo is that our words really do matter. And that you've taken this responsibility and have lived your true self and you've been true to yourself also and wanting to put in the work when it, when we need to at times, willing to have that tribe that's around you to help you and support you. And you are that person for so many people. And I just thank you for being willing to go there to do those things because whether or not you know you're doing it consciously, there are so many people who do feel that, yeah, they're just as proud of you as you are of yourself. So thank you, homey. You're wonderful. I think you're so proud of me. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for the squad here. We didn't even bust into the, we like we're so deep in conversation. We didn't get into our Oreo cookies or anything or you know, I didn't aim, but yeah, you know, you also want to say I'm going to cook it up. Yeah, bust of these happy to Oreo cookies, oh, wow. This is a vibe, dude. Oh my God. Serious? I got almost, I don't want to eat these. Same. They look nice. Yeah, this is like cold off for some. But I might eat it. Take a look at the boom. Do I a little van a white? By the way, you know, I'm a past age, Jack is retiring. I'm hoping that maybe I, this would be my audition tape. You know, I think you could do great. Right. I can see it. Oh my God. If you know somebody, put it in a word. Oh my God. Okay, how could you do these? Yeah, let's snack and let's get out of here. Appreciate each and every person for tapping into the pod. You, Laura, for being the true blessing that you are. And let's do a little cookie toast. What are you? Tastes. Let's say we do a little cookie. The biggest. Oh, they're all there pointing to make sure I tell, isn't it on the screen here, therapy sessions? Aren't we? Yeah. Everybody's pointing back to you and say what the neighborhood is doing. That are the points on the tape. I'm pretty sure we have it all around here, right here. Therapy sessions. This is the pod with Lorna and I'm not as well. Happy Jackwreck or the baby. Cheers. Cheers.