Again returning to the dagger we looked at the defensive actions with the dagger held with the blade above the hand, sop romano above the hand. We can also look at the defenses with the dagger held in the more conventional manner with the blade below the hand, sop romano below the hand. In this circumstance the defense is end up doubled. So in order to get a good forward presentation of the dagger we need to cross our hands. So we can do all of the same kind of defenses that we saw before. We can do all the same defenses that we had before. We can come to the extended position and make those defense. The full work is the same. I can cover against the fidentate. I can cover against the mandrito, the man reversal, and I can also cover against the sultanate. These doubled and crossed covers are better done in armor than out because you're much shorter than in the position here. This is good defense against all attacks against all weapons in fact with the dagger. When you come to crossed you're shortening yourself up quite a bit so you have to be cognizant of the fact that the attacker's weapon is going to be closer to you. If you're wearing armor that's not a big problem. If you want you need to be aware of that. The best thing about the cross position is it creates a lot of opportunities to open up and turn after that. They create a lot of interesting circumstances with respect to defense and counterattack.