I am the lead product owner for Folio. I was actually the first product owner on the project. Product owner is a role from the Agile Scrum Agile framework and basically what product owners do is they serve as a proxy for the users or the customers. So it's our jobs to work with subject matter experts to understand what their business needs are, problems are trying to solve and we sort of synthesize the information that we gather from them and then work with other stakeholders, UX designers, developers to design solutions that solve their problems. There's a lot that excites me about Folio. Folio is just in and of itself it's an exciting project because for the first time librarians are developing their own IOS and the fact that we have so many librarians from all over the place doing this means that we're producing something that any library can use. I think for us it's quite new we have never done this before. This international community was a colleagues from America, from Great Britain, now from Denmark, from Sweden. That is really great and the support inside that community, the approach of the software to be developed from the user-centric view, the UX UI design goes first and then the code is developed. I think that a new approach is for us and that where we see a lot of advantages for us. So I think that the platform when I look at it, it kind of looks easy to use and friendly because some other systems that I've used, it's just you go to some settings and it's just terrifying because there's so much. From day one I have been so impressed with the developers. The first group of developers I met were the ones at Index Data. I went to Copenhagen shortly after I joined the project and I met a lot of the developers and I was just everyone I, each developer I met was more impressive than the next. We are always doing things for money and I felt to do something that is good for the people. Collecting the knowledge of the world, it's an interesting task and sharing it feels even more interesting to me. Well I think the community is great. I mean it's plus the way it just grows. We've been part of the project from the start when it was essentially 30 people during those meetups. I think we have over 160 or 190. So it's just exploding in terms of community and involvement. It tries to solve some interesting issues for big organizations like universities so that's challenging so that's interesting to work with. We're working with really modern technologies so that's exciting. Our local library systems we are running at the moment are a little bit at the end of their life cycle. It takes more and more effort to keep them alive, to keep them up to date and to fulfill the requirements of data security and data ownership. Library software is running a long time so it needs to be very stable and always up to date and very sustainable so that we can work throughout the changing needs of the libraries on a stable technology tech stack so that's why we need modern and future-proof technology. I think it allows different organizations to pull their strengths and their resources together to create something that is sort of more generally useful so I think that's the biggest strength. Otherwise you end up with organizations building software that is essentially useful only for their own sake.