So what about Drag Reform? Leave it to the people? Yeah, I don't believe that somebody should go to jail for smoking a joint or... Because some do it at the moment, isn't it? So you'd be the favour of decriminalisation? Yeah, I think it would be better to have a... I guess my, on marijuana issues, I mean, my starts are more from a health perspective rather than a kind of a crime perspective. That seems to be where the debate's going and a lot of that, he's saying it's a health issue, so let's make it the same as alcohol or something and make it more freely available or a sense, but treated as maybe a bad thing for society that we need a health messages and something about it. Is that... Well, yeah, I think we need to look at it. I mean, Richie Paulton here, for example, here doing the longitudinal study, has done some very interesting work on people have a particular genetic sort of issue around smoking a lot of, smoking a lot of dope, but actually does make increased bipolar problems. So we've got to think that through and how we would regulate it or how, what we would do if we were to go down that decriminalisation room. Okay, now what about law and order? How's this government doing on law and order? Well, I mean, three strikes, and I forgot to say, you know, this is the sort of stuff that comes out of the south of the south, and this is a copy for ACT. I mean, the bottom line with law and order, if you, you know, is 50% of our prison population is functioning a little bit. 80% of them came in on alcohol and drugs issues. So, some alcohol and drugs rehabilitation in prisons is a good thing. But I actually think that the issue is, and there are some criminals, and people would say 10, maybe 20%, a hardcore, whatever, they're going to have to go away and they have to stay there, because they commit 90% of our crimes. But you'd like to see imprisonment rates come down? Yeah, I think we've got the second highest in the OECD. I think that is an appalling record. And our recidivism rates are astronomically high. I mean, I used another 65%, 70%, after two years. But we can't blame all this on the national party, can we? Because the last Labour government can't be... I don't know, you guys double the imprisonment rate over the... Well, I'm a bit careful. I mean, I think there's a... My senses, when I talk to people, that there's a turning around, that is against the way that sensible sentencing would want to go, whereas people are saying, 90,000 bucks to keep somebody in jail, that's a complete and utter waste of money, and locking them away for longer, so that their recidivism rate is higher when they come out. I think you're right, there is a dumb thing to do. But are Labour national just following the crowd on this, or I mean, you don't seem to be at the front of turning that debate around? Oh, I think there's definitely an issue around short-term prevention, so long as the long-term other issues are addressed. And I think what happens is a lot of the media and what are the attention focuses on the... the number of police on their street, which I think is an important issue. But some of the other issues that we've got are a sort of a longer term sort of issues as well. Okay, we've got a question from the floor, Mark Kerry, at the front of the... This is about education. I understand your tertiary education, is it? Yes. I remember reading your policy around student loudspears, and something that was sort of area-fairy might do this, might do that. What do you still want to have universal student loudspears, or is that... I mean, that would be... I mean, we've said that, right from the... some of the word go, I suppose, that the ultimate possibility of having universal student loudspears would be the desirable thing, but right now, we're just not going to be close to being able to do that. We're just simply kind of forwarded. So what we've said around is, you know, cap on fees, keeping the interest obviously off, and then looking at as time goes on of being able to sort of be a bit more flexible, but it's... I mean, the tertiary policy is really a combination of sort of three things. One is making sure access. I mean, student-alouance, student-lones, whatever, is really about access to a university. If you're able to go to a university, you should be able to go no matter what your circumstances. It's about keeping the universities, the quality of the universities, as good as we can get. It's about making sure that our best brains don't flee news there, and those are the three issues. Okay, but I sort of wonder coming up from that, that maybe is part of the problem with labour and the selection, why you're not getting more traction, is that because you can't give out policies like that, and you can't differentiate yourself enough from national. Is that why... Well, it's... It looks like a step at the bottom. I'll be perfectly honest. I mean, you know, there's a number of things that came up in the tertiary policy, and I had to really fight our economics team for it. I mean, it's the end of the day. And you lost on that one? Well, I had to compromise. But what I wanted to do was to make sure that students weren't any more disadvantaged than... and guaranteeing that that interest stayed off. I wanted to make sure that universities at least kept pace with inflation, which is in the policy. And I also wanted to look at some of the postdoc scholarships that were expired by the National Government, which I thought was a huge mistake, 120 postdocs of our best people. We were needed to keep hearing news in there. Now, I see times almost up, so we've got a few seconds just for you to make a few final election predictions. What's going to happen to the Greens? I think the Greens are doing well. I think they will probably do better than what they did last time. But they generally come down off a high. And I hope they could be. Yeah. Mana, are they just a one trick, one MP pony? They're going to be struggling to get... Oh, and I hope Kelvin Davis gets to Totokoro, for be honest with you. He's a terrific guy and he's a mate. And he's a really good MP for Totokoro. So, I mean, he's in a very small poll he's behind, but nevertheless, I think he's got a really good chance. So the Mana could be wiped out? Could be. Maybe Kelvin comes in. That's a big deal of troops. Okay, what's going to happen to Act? I think that EBS and voters this time are just saying enough. So you think this might... I think I was at a table, and this is just a small group of about 10 to 12 people at a table the other night, where most of them are for par now and they just... And these are carcasses, blue voters. I was really pleased to be on this table. No, they were very nice people. But they all said, look, no, we don't want to vote for banks. I mean, actually, what people have forgotten, was that Hyde had actually engendered. He was a very good MP. He actually got out there and did the business. Okay, now... It's a little bit more voted for him. Now, once the peters, what's the chances of them being back? Do you really think... I think probably 35%. Okay. I wouldn't rule this guy out. Okay. Any chance that National is going to get 48%, 50% like they currently are polling. I hope not. I think... I think there hasn't been a party that's got about 50% since 1951. I think that's... I don't think that's possibility. I actually think that people are looking at what's happening in terms of parties rather than blocks. Okay. If you start looking at blocks, then suddenly the gap between left and right is actually pretty small. Okay. And your majority, what, it's 10,000? No, it wasn't a biolection. If I could maintain my majority, I'd be... It would improve on it. I'd be really, really happy. I would incredibly happy. So, I mean, you've labored my... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, I'm not happy. I think it's a bit of a mad up when you were saying... Yeah, I am. Yep, so this is the last question. So, if your majority goes down, you'll be disappointed. You'll be... It was a... Biolections always different from a general election. So, it's a bit hard to translate one to the other. But proportionally. But look, I would like to think proportionally. I mean, I worked pretty hard in the electorate. So, I'd like to think that, you know, I could stay under the same or better, I could. Okay, well, thanks, David. Here, that was... Thank you, Rob. Thank you, Chris. Thank you, Mr.