So I have you know a little dish here and I've got my super saturated solution here. Okay like I said I sold so you may have to take it hot you know basically a very hot water of let it cool. Notice there are no crystals, and I have to be very careful not to disturb this very much. There are no crystals in the solution. Even though the solution technically has more soil unit then should be the soil that we're in. Okay now with the slightest disturbance of the solution you can usually you'll see very rapid crystallization so there's some bitters up here. When I'm going to add more the solution there which is my dish in the dish and it's probably hard to see right there. I've got a few crystals solid crystals of sodium acetate and there's enough there that should act as basically sites for this solution to crystallize on. So these are all about sea crystals. Okay and I like I said sometimes it doesn't work so you have to bear with me. One thing I will do before I pour this is make sure that there are no crystals around the lip of the maker because if there are the whole maker is going to crystallize and I don't want that to happen. Okay so I will wipe this off. It's nice and clean. Yeah he's very clean. Last word you do this. Like I said it's hard to do. Okay so if you're in the back you can't see you're welcome to come up closer but I'm going to pour it here on my dish and let's see what happens. Oh there it is. I'm getting crystallization at the top but I'm going to keep pouring my whole maker. That's okay. Sometimes it okay so you can see that now this wasn't room temperature I should have had somebody touch this initially but you just want to touch the outside of the maker. It's warm. Okay this is what they call the hot ice trick. How to make it solid and it's actually warm. It's not really ice or so but you can trick people and then believing that you just made ice that got hot so it does get pretty warm. So I'm just going to leave this here. Some of the demos I've seen have been really neat they can actually make a tall stack of the acetate crystals. It doesn't always work sometimes I just fall over but you can see my ice that I'm just doing right here which is really just sodium acetate. It's pretty interesting now that how it kind of formed over the edge of the beaker.