So my choices of shelter are down to four home made shelters I've made and I'm thinking we're one's the best to take with me and we can trips so I'll go through the four of them and see what I think just before I do that I'll show you these uh straps I made for the tap this is the uh a bat uh you call that's the webbing bat a webbing you're a deer I'm on a cord and then you've got a tightener I made these tightness uh tighten up the line and I've won in each three you can see it's just saved your time that's nice you got a good tight patch for a foot so anyway now we'll start with a poncho the poncho you can wear is our raincoat so you don't need to get a raincoat with you and you can use it as a shelter but the thing is if it's raining when you get there and it's heavy you've got to take the poncho off to set it up so you're going to get wet unless you take an extra raincoat with you which wasn't a part of the deal but in fair weather the poncho would be great then you've got the tap tin the tap tin you wouldn't have to take a bavvy bag because there's a bug net on it so you could just use a sleeping bag that would be the latest option and if you take a pole with you you can set it up anywhere and like I say it's a latest option but small so if you had wet gear and a closer wet not a lot of room you store stuff and but hang stuff up to dry then you've got the tent tent tents and our first set up so if it's heavy rain you're going to get to run side the tent wet so you need to move quick and like the tap tin it's small there's not a lot of room it's store wet gear so it could be a bit cramped when it's really wet weather but great great if you get it up before the rain starts and then there's a tap with a tap you can set up a tap you'll be well and I'll work with a coat so you know going to get wet setting up the tap it's plenty of room under the tap to maybe hang your hang way close and you've got under it and keep out the rain and you use a bavvy sack with a tap to keep the bugs off you it's not an it's not an latest option either however the tent the big tap and the poncho would all come in rain about the same because with a poncho on the tap you've got to take a bavvy sack which would make the way up to roughly the same way as the tent the tap tin you wouldn't have to take the bavvy sack so that would be the lightest option but it's all we do if putting it up in really bad weather and I think the tap wins because the tap's good for really bad weather and there's lots of different ways in Seattle by tap for good weather for bad weather plus you'd be having your waterproof coat on while you're setting it up so you're staying dry you can get your bike under it you can go your gear under it so for me the tap is the most versatile option and as you can see I've not set this start up in a very good place it's on a hill and it's treason away of the lines however it's good enough just to demonstrate what I'm trying to say