I'm Don Harvey, the former Bishop of Eastern U-Fundland and LARBERDOOR in Canada. I'm now the moderator of the Anglican Network in Canada and one of the lead bishops of the Anglican Church in North America. So, wearing all of these hats I come to talk about some of the challenges we're facing at the present time. Now, it all started in Canada long before the United States didn't it, but people often confused or syncretized. Yes, but people often think in North America is all in North America and that's not quite the case. The new Westminster Bishop Michael Inham, started in seven years ago with approving same-sex blessings and carrying out same-sex blessings. There was a rally in Vancouver to express our concern for that and that was just prior to the famous meeting in Plano in Texas, which launched the United States involvement in this as well. Obviously, before this time there were pockets of involvement anyway, but as standard as national movements all around that time. How do you see this planning out in the long term? At the moment almost all of our bodies in North America, not just Canada, come under primates from various places in the world. In Canada we come under Gregory Venables in the southern cone. He has made it quite clear to us as I think most of the primates, not all, have made to their constituents that in fact what they are doing is temporary, its emergency and its pastoral. And they especially stress the temporary aspect of it. It is our hope that this new proposed North American province will take these dozen different primates off the book as it were, that they won't have this overseas jurisdiction and that we will become responsible for our own activities and still be linked into the community. That's the important part with us. Have you had any signals that the province is likely to be given some kind of recognition? Well, after the communicate that came out last week from Alexandria, there was some concern that things were going backwards instead of forwards. But we realized that at that primates meeting there was no application made to start a new province, nor was permission expected at that particular time. It's a very involved process because as far as we can see, there's no template on how to do it. There's plenty of experience as to how to form a province because of geography or demographics, but to form one on the basis of theology, on the basis of different theology, then in that geographic area, it's completely new. And what if you don't get the province, is that schism? Well, we have defined fairly straightforwardly what schism is. Dr. Packer, who's under our jurisdiction, J.I. Packer, has written a marvelous paper on that. And if in fact we are in touch part of the worldwide communion, we can't be schismatic. In fact, those who are not would be. No, this comes down to the old question. Are those who go, the Orthodox or those who stay, who will really move and who stay? But the province itself may have to be built on the basis of individual primates giving their support to what we're doing. And it won't happen overnight. And what a lot of people in England are asking is why can't you all just rub along together and let God be the judge? Well, I heard some of this this morning in the debate in the main synod here. The thing is that there are some things you can live within diversity. But there are other essential things that you cannot tolerate if you're going to be faithful to the scripture, to the supremacy of Jesus Christ, and to the teaching that's quite emphatic. Why this issue of homosexuality and not previous issues? Well, this is the problem. It is not just this issue of homosexuality. The issue of homosexuality is the tip of a very big iceberg. And the other part of the iceberg is built on two things. And it's very prevalent in North America. One is to challenge the supremacy of Holy Scripture. And the second, of course, is the uniqueness of Jesus Christ. If we could settle on those two, the homosexuality thing would take care of itself because Scripture is very emphatic about it. Now, some of the other things you're mentioning, you can take extracts from Scripture to prove your point. You can play textual ping pong, as it were. But in the homosexual aspect, I'm not aware of anything in the Old or New Testament, which can be even misconstrued to support it. Now, do you think how much Scripture and Williams is going to be successful in the long term in managing to maintain unity? One hopes and prays. We pray every day that he will be successful because he's also our our Scripture. And we respect the position. And we are very aware of the very difficult path he has to follow there. And certainly, I think he's been very careful as to any public statement, as to what's happening about this new province. But I understand he has been interested in what we propose to do and how we propose to do it. Thank you very much.