I'm Patrick, Patrick Bongo, you've put Tom Warp, a artist, visual artist from TRC. Right now I'm doing kind of mixed media. 2D, I have to say that because it's much more like you can touch, you can turn a bit around my works. The Indira's here used to have a big bag on my back, like a very big one. And then I was like, fixed up from the street and then put it on my back. Once at the studio, put it and then think about what to do about that. Yeah, I think that's where I started to explore. The creation is like that. When you create things, when we create things, we think about that. And then we don't know how to start. Or where to start or what kind of thing it will be. You know, we just think of take something like that and then we put it aside. And then once in the studio, we start the lack of touch everywhere and then the dispersion can. And then we build something. Yeah, I think there's another second tell you, if you think about something to do, you won't do that. You won't do that. Yeah, that's definitely what you want to do because it's going to be tough for you to make the same thing as you have been imagining. Yeah, you can. And then, yeah, we just pick stuff like that and then start to contain it and then we make out. And then we, you know, when we're working like that, it's like we're working the same time in the skin, like in the flesh. And then in the spirit also, it goes together. Because you must make sure that what you create goes together with your spirit. It's interactive. You know, more you touch, more you get, you like you are in the relationship. There's a third relationship with the painting with the art. Life is stuff before you get what you need. You have to sweat. It's you have to spend your blood and something, your energy. That's why you can see it's a for me, it's a kind of skin. And then that's what a second of blood will come out of the skin. In my country, actually, the rebuilding process of the country. And you can find every mess, like you can find mess everywhere. The materials get a lot of meaning into him because it speaks about the pollution in the large, in the large meaning of that. It's not only about the mess or the cabbage that people used to throw on the streets everywhere in the country. But the pollution for me is everywhere in the social, where in the political way, everywhere you can find the pollution. I'm talking also about the clearing of people from the streets because they don't have a job. There's no job, there's no opportunity for people. And then what's what happened after that people go into the streets. And then the like, they make the celebrate every day. You can find a lot of people every day on the bar everywhere because they have nothing to do. Because the social is part of it. So what people can do, only to go into the distraction. It's a message. So it's also interesting people who ask you what you want to say, what you work say. And then they expand to that. And then they understand also. Because I'm a French speaker, but now I'm an English speaker. I'm trying. And I'm trying, but the most important to be understanding. And then people also understand what I'm saying. That's also interesting. And I like it. And then yeah, I feel like I'm comfortable now than before.