I'm going to throw a coffee pour over and I use 550 grams for this and I'm not sure if I've talked about this on a video, I've definitely posted on Instagram but it wasn't too long ago that I found out what the, I mean this is someone's take on it at least, I don't know how everyone else is using the terms but the difference between a pour over and a coffee dripper and basically a pour over will be something like the V60 which you can get in plastic and glass which is what I sort of use as a basis for mine which has a big hole in the bottom and the idea is that you control the thickness of the grind of your coffee and that determines how quickly the water passes through and therefore your brew time so if you want a longer brew you use a finer grind of coffee and if you want a faster brew you use a coarser one but in order to do that you have to be able to control the grind of your coffee and obviously some people buy it pre ground after certain size and if that size works for you great and if it doesn't there's nothing you can do to fix it which is where the drippers make more sense and they have a much smaller hole at the bottom and the rape that the coffee can come through is limited by the design of the piece rather than the coffee so you can use any coarseness of coffee and it will still come through at rough in the same rate kind of within reason and so all you do different from a throwing point of view is I'm about to open the clay all the way to the bottom which leaves a finger sized hole through which obviously is a very fast flow of coffee if you didn't want to do that you just leave a normal base thickness of clay and cut holes in it I've drilled them all or use a tube cutter or something like that but make smaller holes later in the trimming stage or I suppose you could do what I just did but open it smaller we're opening it and close it again we're looking for a small hole so this is a pour over not a dripper and that's the difference treatment too and you can't see how I do and the process is already centered the clay open it wide and then separate it out into what's going to be the base of the piece and what's going to be the cone and essentially you're almost throwing the cone part like you're throwing it off the hump or what you're in fact throwing it off is the flattened base bits of clay there is these are relatively technical as far as pieces go just because like throwing off the hump you've got to be careful not to lean too heavily on the clay beneath it and not to do anything too heavy handed on the clay that you're working on it's all connected and trying to get this part thin staying centered on a small way without talking the clay and twisting and a fun challenge for the period that's six months ago where probably of well maybe making five or six a week and then I haven't made one in months I guess run up to Christmas people want coffee it's too warm the moment very no but um yes this is the first time I've thrown a while this is going to become an autolus so depending on what I'm doing at this stage I can make them swirly which case I like the swells and it'll I can do stamp designs like pebble or peacock and in which case what I would do is rip the inside smooth and leave it until tomorrow when I'd stamp it with the nautilus I could just leave it as it was but I will still get someone to slip off the inside make sure and try a bit there the other thing with these is I don't know how big a difference it makes but the commercial ones tend to have a raised profile of some sort on the inside so all those designs that just said the stamped ones they have indents from the stamping the nautilus has the raised slip riches and swells obviously the swells give it a depth in all cases it's to hold the filter paper slightly away from the clay and that lets the coffee flow down a bit better and I'm not 100% certain I've read what it's supposed to do and the irony it does but I know people who know far more about this than me essentially it improves the taste because it changes the way the coffee can run down outside the paper and doesn't over brew or something I'll dig what I'll now do is leave that over and I'll defend it up still on the back insert then I'll do the nautilus slip and then I'll wire off I'm going to be careful not to leave them too long because the bottom will warp slightly if they're too dry when you try and put a wire underneath but at the same time for the nautilus you want it's still attached when you do the slip so won't let it dry too much but let's firm up slightly before I do that and then wire off and the good thing with having this slightly raised kick it's a bit like a bowl it gets a lot more strength from that than it will be if it's completely flat be far more prone to warping