Alright, we get some questions on our Troling Dipsy Diagre videos for Spoon Bill. You got a Snag Spoon Bill because they don't hit conventional lures. Use a big trellahook. A lot of people put a large weight behind it, you know, a couple pounds of lead and trull along where they put less lead and jerk as they're trull along. It's a lot of work. So we use a Dipsy Diagre to get our hooks down to the desired depth. And then also we do the middle of winter and the spin bill are pretty deep. So we got some pretty extreme depths we need to get it to. So we use a Dipsy Diagre which is it's a trolling method for like salmon and other deep fish. Where this digs into the water as you're trolling along and then when you hit a fish the diver releases and then it comes to the surface easier. And we put the triple hook in front of it. And then typically with the Dipsy Diagre's they're designed to have a crankbait or something behind it. But since we're snagging fish we put the triple hook in front of it. And then a better thing that I like about versus just trolling lead is there's a specific chart. Lurgencin has a chart which I'll show a screenshot here. It depends on how much line you let out to how deep it goes. So we always use line counter-reels and we're real specific about it. You know, we'll drive along where the spoon bill are. I figured out what depth they're hanging out where we want to put it out. Just look at the Lurgencin chart. Let out that amount once we're trolling at the depth. Where the spoon bill are instead of just dragging it on the bottom where you lose them. I mean they're 15 bucks American to buy these so they're not cheap. And what's wrong with the depth where the spoon bill are? And then to take it a step further a lot of people will realize the line counter-reels are not totally accurate. Like this, this is a kind of real right here. If I let out 100 feet of line and measure it it actually reads 130 feet. So you need to adjust the depth that you're letting out on the Lurgencin chart. I mean I used to do it all on my head. I mean I'm pretty good with math in my head. But I got a little bit more scientific about it. I'm not sure if you guys show you one of my smaller holes here. If you measure this it's 24 inches from this real to the eyelid. So I actually let out zero iron counter and I'll count it 50 times. I'll let out 100 foot of line and then I'll look at the line counter. And I know that this one I got 100 foot of line at. Actually 100 foot of line it reads 118. So I'll take that information and I'll build a spreadsheet that you can plug in the 118 and it'll adjust all those readings and adjust the Lurgencin depth chart. And then I'll take that information and put it on a card. And then as we're fishing I know when I'm using the Cabela's Deathmaster Gold I have an adjusted chart. Say I want to go 30 feet deep. I know how much line to let out based upon the inaccuracy of that reel and the Lurgencin chart. But if anybody wants that chart or that Excel spreadsheet it's really easy to use. Just give me your email address in the comments of this video and I'll email it to you. Another thing on the Dipsy Tigers we're going to try this here they're also directional too. You can set them there's a zero setting which is straight behind the boat at one and two and a three. It'll plane the divers off to the side of the boat. And a friend of mine actually uses the planar setting that way he can run four snagging poles at one time behind the boat as he's throwing. We usually run two. I mean I got a pretty small boat so it's a lot going on to have four poles. But my wife and I are going to give it a try this year. That's why I have two shorter poles and a longer pole. We'll put the longer poles on the outside and set them where the divers will plane out and then set the two straight behind the boat. Another comment I wanted to make on your pole selection. This is a Cabela's trolling pole. It's actually a Dipsy divers specific pole. It has a lot of give in it and it's about ten feet long. We don't have a problem because we're out there in the middle of the winter. There's not much lake traffic. But when I troll in the summer with these for like walleye, if there's a lot of waves on the lake it'll pop your divers. It'll release this when a boat goes by and hit a wave. Well these Dipsy divers have a lot of flex in them so it'll take the waves without pop in the divers. But it has enough meat in it where whenever you hook a fish you can pop that diver. The spoon bill usually pop it but if you're fishing for like small walleye you've got a top on your end of it. I mean then I got some new poles the other day I'm excited about trying their silver cat B&M catfish poles. I just wanted an inexpensive pole that was shorter and it seemed to have the give that I was looking for in the Dipsy divers pole.