So as a man, what do you think is in it for them? What do you think draws men to want to explore Cuckoldy? It's such a great question because a lot of people don't understand that at all. That's probably a number one question I get. Well, that seems unfair. You know, she gets to go and do all of this fun, sexy stuff and he doesn't get the same privilege, like that doesn't make any sense. That sounds awful. That sounds mean. And what they don't understand is that there's so much in it for the guy. And first of all, like, I don't remember where I saw it, but like there are there is biochemical reaction and that happens in men where there's a flood of fucking hormones that happen when he thinks about his partner, sleeping with somebody else. And so it's incredibly thrilling for him. And I listened to that Holly Hotwife episode. The piece of thing is she's so wild. Like, I can't even believe it. I was so great. The fact that that happened twice at that pizza delivery man got lucky twice is unbelievable. I know it's crazy. But I love it so much. That was so great. But one of the things that struck me about what she was saying about her relationship was that she called it edging. She said her husband really likes the edging part. And I thought, oh, that's I'm not heard of call that before, but that's very interesting because that is what I tend to call this like cuck-enched, which is this real kind of like, dance of emotions of nervous, of like a little fearful, excited, of like, dreading, but also really turned on kind of feeling knowing that this is going to happen that she's going to be with this other guy. And it's almost like that weird feeling. It seems weird, but it's very intense. Is such a draw for so many guys.