So we wanted to ask you what do you think about the mobile trade unions in modern life? Well I don't think anything of trade unions in modern life they don't seem to be there. Every time I go shopping at a weekend and I see that people are working to 8 or 10 or 11 o'clock at night on Saturday and then they're there again the following morning at 11 o'clock. So there was a clear case reunion to really stamp its foot and put an end to it. Yes. Because I don't know what happens when workers without a voice apparently cannot have any effect on or control of their employers. And that's what seems to be wrong. I know organized migrant workers and cash or workers but he's never heard any evidence of that. No, I should have thought that the scandals of employment of migrant workers on agricultural sites for example were they are absolutely controlled by some monster who is making money out of their labor. They have no freedom at all. They must as well be slaves. The conditions in which they live and sleep and have their being as well as the conditions in which they work are frankly appalling. But where have been the successive governments? They have shown no interest in this problem at all because they seem to be no union interest. So things get by. People make money out of other people's work.