I'm with Fish and Guru Mike Raver. He's got a great advantage over old people like myself, which is a fact that he's young and he understands technology. So Mike's gonna use a Hummanbird Helix-12s here and show us some basics about how to read these graphs, side imaging and sonar and so forth, help make you a better fisherman. All right, so first thing, you know, looking at side imaging, in the winter time, graphing these fish is really important before you start catching them. And there's not a whole lot of fish to be shown here, but one thing to notice, you see on the left side of the screen, you have a lot brighter return. And on the right side of the screen, you know, it's a lot darker. That bright return is a hard bottom. So when those, the sonar hits, or in this case, the side imaging sonar, when it hits that harder bottom, it's gonna return a little bit sharper just like that. So you're gonna get that coloration to it. Okay, so here we are, you know, we're looking at a side imaging picture. We're kind of just going across this big mud flat with some bait around. And to break it down for you, you can see these smaller white dots with the black signatures underneath them. And those black signatures are actually shadows. And so you know that those are fish, definitely smaller fish, but you can even tell kind of the distance from the bottom just by looking at that side imaging picture. And also here on the left, you see these spots laying off a little bit, but you can see those shadows. And that's how you know that those are fish, because they're actually still leaving that signature. Even though it's not super sharp, a lot of times when those fish get farther out on your side imaging, that's how they'll look. I mean, it's important to know that that is still a fish. Yeah, so you can see here, it's a lot of small signatures, but off, you know, roughly 20 feet, 30 feet to the side of the boat, we're 23 feet of water. Now that's just a ball of smaller fish, you know, in this case, most likely shad, or you know, since Andy showed us what's out there, it could be rock mass as well. But you can see, you know, those fish are pretty tight to the bottom. You know, and you can see there's at least 30 to 40 bodies there. So you know, it's a smaller fish. It's all right. So getting in the boat this morning, the first thing I did, this chart speed was down at five. And for me, I know I've talked to a lot of people before who, you know, believe that the speed of the chart is the speed of the boat, and that has nothing to do with it. So I constantly on the front graph, I will do this at least. I turn that all the way up to 10, because I want that feed on the bottom and replenishing as quickly as possible. You know, if there's new information, if there's a fish underneath my boat, I would like to know that. I don't want to slip by, and you can see right here, one, there's a signature coming up that's just off the bottom. But you know, then looking at, you know, the options, the sensitivity and contrast is something you have to get into on your own boat. For here, you know, it's pretty open water. I didn't mess with it much. I just wanted to crank that chart speed up, so I could really tell what was going on. And then it happens quicker. Now, I think that's the biggest mistake. You know, people don't, especially in the winter, don't have a constant eye on their electronics. And this is what's telling you, you know, I mean, they tell you what's on the bottom. And this time of year, you don't often come across water to fish, like you may in the summer. You know, normally if you come across fish, there's at least enough of a school there that you can catch a substantial amount. And for, you know, it's just you have to pay attention. That's, that's the key. Okay, so now you see the same situation. If you look down in this area here, you can barely see a signature on the bottom. That's a small mouth laying in the mud. And right here, you've got some bait that's up and suspended. It's not a hard signature, so you can kind of tell its piece together. I mean, you can see one here, and that looks like a small ball of bait here. And what you want to look for when you fish deep in the winter time is you want the bait above the fish. And in a situation where that's not happening, typically the bite is brutal. And suspended fish, I mean, everybody knows suspended fish are tough. But if you can keep the fish on the bottom, the bait above the fish, I mean, normally that's the recipe for success. That's not a whole lot to explain, but it is a monster water fish. I mean, you can, so if you really look at this right here, it just looks like a bunch of different colors. What you can see is if you look at the, you know, individual, those hard red spots, I mean, those are individual signatures. So those hard red spots are where the sonar is getting the hardest returns. So that's the center of a fish. So I mean, you can kind of go through a school like that and get a not rough idea of how many fish there actually are there. And yeah, I mean, there's a big group there. What do you think about that? I mean, they do kind of have the consistency of bass being that tight to the bottom, but I mean, they're large. You know, it's definitely not a bunch of bait fish. So I don't know, a couple casts can tell at that point. All right, so we're coming through here and you can see, you know, these bumps here along the bottom. I mean, those are actually small moths laying in the bottom. You know, it's hard to tell that, but that those little bumps are really what you're looking for. And up here, these are just smaller little pods of bait. Now, you'll see this signature here, that signature there. Those are larger fish as well, but those smaller marks up above are either very small bass or, you know, little pods of shad that are kind of roaming around. And you know that because they're elevated above those fish, and those small moths kind of just laying weight. What do you see there? All right, well, you can see here. I mean, we've got some fish laying on the bottom, and that's really typical this time of year. It's, as you can see, 36 degree water. It's as cold as it gets before it freezes. And those fish, and hopefully we can show you today, but those fish will lay on the bottom. They actually have mud on their bellies. And yeah, I mean, that's just a surefire sign those fish are down there. It's wintertime. It's not a fall transition anymore. So let's hope you get on it. Let us all in December 8th. Yeah, only December 8th in northern Indiana. So, you know, that's definitely wintertime. Oh, yeah, giant, dude. Giant. Oh, baby. Yeah, baby. How about to carry fry this thing? We'll go out. Oh, yes, sir. Yes, sir. That's what we've been waiting for right there, boy. Grind out their deep for those fish. They're definitely have to be shed. I think it's going to take both of us going after them to get some more like this.