It's not about labels or anything particularly, it's about how you use clothes and how you use them on yourself. It's the best way of sticking out is if you're doing it from yourself. Can you still be an individual today? I never seem to have a problem with it. I can still get either whistled up or broke thrown at me. It always seems the course of reaction which I think is quite good for an outblading brunner. Judy Blaine was a force of nature. Always involved a heavy visual sense especially on yourself or on other people. That's why I do do a bit of styling, a bit of jewelry, if I haven't got it in my wardrobe I'll make it. It's very much, let's use a safety pins, the classic but I started using materials that were not thought of as accessories or clothing. I just used my creativity to plunder things from different areas and reinterpret it into a photo or outfit for club or a piece of jewelry for shop. What did you change his name? He had Judy, Judy was Anthony Price calling him Judy after Judy Garland. Amazing, is that how wrong? That's crazy, OK. And Blaine came because I can't remember this right because I kind of forgot it for a few years and then he'd remind me and then he'd forget and I'd remind him and none of. So when Judy worked in the coach at heaven which is when I met him, how I met him, or maybe I met him elsewhere but he worked in the coach at heaven but anyway, we were very young. Ever the stylist, he would sometimes because we used to drink as well which I don't think he was supposed to when he was working but anyway so we used to drink Lala and people would come to pick up their coats and he would sometimes go try that one and instead it was going to look better on you. So there was sometimes a little bit of havoc with the people getting the coats back. No, it's OK. And they would say, so we've got Blaine Judy. Blaine Judy. And that's how it came about. I'd made that black bead necklace which I gave to Scarlo which was basically this huge just millions of black beads that completely covered the whole of Scarlo's front. That was the first piece of jewelry I made and from that it was like, God, well, if I made a different piece every week and we wore the shames, it would look like a different outfit. So then the next week I made something out of strength. And then a couple of weeks later, bones, you know what I mean. So that's when I started making accessories.