So I'm here at the Shanghai SKA meeting to talk about operating a large and complex telescope. We've learned a lot of lessons, our team of operators and scientists in the near-cats in South Africa by operating a big telescope. The SKA being at least four times bigger will have enormous challenges in managing and optimizing the operation of all these thousands of moving parts. And so it's important to get in early and try and capture as much of this learning from the PICOS instruments as possible to have a smooth start to operations of SKA.