We're just sort of going a bit quick into that, we were having a good run, you know, we started getting a bit of push into that stage and then we just come around a corner which I thought opened and it tightened and away we off, really. I was expecting a bit worse actually, we stopped just before the drain, what you're thankful for but yeah not much damage hopefully we'll have a look at it and hopefully we can get back in when we're missed the stage in the next one but try and get down again for tomorrow anyway just front spitter, probably maybe a bit steering arm I think at this stage, yeah but I don't really know exactly but it's pretty, pretty minor, pretty minor, it says a strong old girl, we put a bookstress on the bumper on the front so that took out all the posts in our way, big hammer, we'll fix it, my mistake that's all it takes. What you have for gravel? Corsion? Are you alright Graham? I'm okay. We come down this downhill stretch and it's covered a gravel, these road looks about a K up to road, we thought it'd sort of eased off a bit in terms of the amount of gravel so we're coming down quite fast and obviously not had a gravel patch, spun around and backed over the feeds over here, so the car's down the bank, we're going to get it out tonight, doesn't look like there's too much structural damage but broken glass and some dented panels have to get windows in and things like that so we'll probably just tow it out to Wellington and go from there, repair it after that.