But this, the term conspiracy theory, theorist theories is something that exists to this day. It's used to undermine the credibility in the public eye, journalists, political leaders, perhaps, of academics. All of these journalists and academics in particular are intellectual workers, and so their credibility is at stake if or when, or if there's even a threat of this term being used. So I think it's a very powerful type of kind of disciplinary apparatus that is wielded upon opinion leaders in the US. And I think it's very effective. And it certainly was used against me, and I think that I was likely an example since it was used so problem-like. Well, I got a telephone call from a reporter at the South Florida Sun Sentinel in early January of 2013. His name was Michael Clary. He was a general assignment reporter, pretty sure. He wanted me to, he wanted to discuss the fact that I was teaching a class called Culture of Conspiracy, and the fact that I was writing about the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre on my personal blog, I believe. And he wanted to, I think, draw me out. I was more than open. I had nothing to hide. I think that we talked for probably, initially for probably about an hour or so, and he told me that I was being investigated by university officials, and might be subject to discipline because of my personal blog. I think that that gave me kind of motivation to get ahead of that. And that may very well be what the part of their technique was. Oh, well, if he thinks that, he'll definitely want to talk to us. We'll be kind of like the good cop, you know. And so I was very open. I said, yeah, these things are objects of study and discussion in my classes, things like JFK assassination and the Oklahoma City bombing. Now I've shown documentaries involving these to cult to create discussion and debate about with students. After all, this is I think what students want when they go to the university. They want to have a variety of perspectives. And so he wanted for me, ultimately, this sunsensinal reporter, I believe, wanted for me to state on the record. I think that was a record that there were crisis actors at Sandy Hook. And I said, look, I've never discussed Sandy Hook in class. It's nothing I've brought up because there's no scholarly research on it. And I was certainly not teach my blog in class. And I never did. I never brought it up or anything. He wanted for me to state, yes, there were crisis actors. This was, he called me up. And I was speaking him out here on this patio. Now recall him calling me up and saying, wanting, he was, I think, cajoling me in many ways to state that, yes, there were crisis actors at Sandy Hook. I don't know. I said, I said that's a possibility, but I have no idea. I know that the Department of Homeland Security does contract with crisis actors, for example, vision box actors out in Colorado. But I don't know if that's the case. Now, I would never go on the record stating such. They wanted to conflate my profession with the personal blog and pressure the university to terminate me. Or to get me to shut up, to get me to be quiet. You know, the major newspaper up in Connecticut is the Hartford, Caron. It's sister paper is the Sun Sentinel down here. They're owned by the same company. I definitely think that there's a correlation there.