Hey everybody, interesting interview today on wind fluence. I talked to the founders of cash U, C-A-S-H-U, which is a text-based influence marketing marketplace and app, and they claim that in their experience talent managers and managed services are gouging creators taking 25, 30, 40 percent of what a brand might pay them in order to manage their stuff. My question today rather than a tip is is that fair is 30 percent a fair number is 20 percent. I'm not sure what is and I'm not sure what creators think about that. I'm not sure what talent managers and managed services think about that. But these kids are laying down a claim. So I'd love for you to go listen to the episode at wind fluence pod.com or you can go to jason.online slash C-A-S-H-U cash U and listen love your take on this are creators being gouged by talent managers. Interesting.