You also wrote that when you were in high school, you either wrote or just started a book on Amelia Earhart. Oh, yes. And what was the appeal of her to you? Oh my God. Okay. Well, Amelia Earhart, I stumbled on. It was like an article in 1961, okay, in the Syracuse, Harold Journal, about, there's always some article about Amelia Earhart. You know, someone finds a fragment of something and you know, some theory. And I became very interested in her. At that point, I was like, I guess, 14. And so I began researching her. And in the bowels of the Syracuse library, there were things that were still not on microfilm yet. It was like all the newspapers were still there from the 1930s. So I did that for like three years on this research project. And that's how I became a feminist before feminism had revived, okay, because I suddenly discovered this period just after women had won the right to vote. I'm 1920s and 30s where we had all these career women, like Amelia Earhart and Dorothy Parker, Dorothy Thompson, you know, Claire Booth, Lou, so there's just so many women. Margaret Brook White. And so by the time second wave feminism revived, which was with Betty Friedin's co-founding of now in 1967, I was out of sync with them. Okay, so suddenly they revived and began complaining about men and all that stuff and so on and so forth. And I hated it. And I was early clashes that I had with those feminists from the start. I tried to join second wave feminism. They wouldn't have me. Because I would not bad mouth men. These women, like Amelia Earhart and so on, they did not bad mouth men. They admired men. They admired what men had done, okay, and what they said was we demand equal opportunity for women, which give us the opportunity to show that we can achieve at the same level as men, as who did all these great things. That was not the tone, okay, a second wave feminism was started. I was like, man, that's a picture. I keep on going, I'm getting a million like this and so on. Bunch of them. I mean, these women were insane, okay, I'm from the start, okay, I went to this feminist conference, okay, the Yale Law School, okay, when I was in graduate school, it was 1971. Kate Millett was there. Rita Mae Brown, okay, she later became a lesbian novelist and lives on a horse farm in Virginia, okay, around, you know, so on. Maybe she's here. Maybe she's here. She's like, very rich and so on now. Okay, and so Rita Mae Brown said to me, okay, and she said, difference between you and me, Camille, okay, is that you want to save the universities and I want to burn them down. Okay, now this is, what can you say with, what, when this conversation is stopper, okay, so I had the knockdown argument with the Rolling Stones, okay, with the New Haven Women's Liberation Rock Band. Okay, all right, I adore the Stones, they hated the Stones, okay, so with this huge screaming argument, okay, I would, my back was to the wall, they were spitting in my face. Okay, and I said, yes, the Rolling Stones are a sexist but they make great music and they're, oh no, I remember, I said, all right, let's take a, let's take a look, let's take it under my thumb. Under my thumb, yes, it's sexistly but it's a great song, it's a work of art, okay, and so on. And these women, okay, said to me, and they said, art, art, nothing that demeans women can be art. Now that is the Stalinist view of art, okay, all right. What more about you, what more about you, what more about you, let's take a look at that. Okay, then there was, wait a minute, then there was the argument that I had, okay, this is about, it's just a milieu hard, you ask me a milieu hard, okay. Then I had my first job at Bennington College in 1972, okay, and people said, oh, this is new women studies department, when the first ever said, a University of New York Albany, okay, you know, you'll be wondering, okay, so, okay, so they're feminists, I'm feminists, okay, all right. So we had like a dinner, okay, we're gonna go to a lecture, okay, and so on. And we didn't get through to dessert, let me tell you about that dinner, okay, because we had this screaming argument about hormones, okay. They denied that hormones have the slightest impact on human life. They said hormones weren't even exist, okay. They told me I had been brainwashed, okay, by male scientists, typically, and I, so, and these are women who are the English department, I mean, wonderful education they had in biology, and so on. And so, I mean, at any rate, a milieu hard, okay. Yes, of course. And never, okay, never was like this with men, because this is the point. Well, milieu hard had, in fact, in fact, my next book, my next essay collection, I'm going to reproduce the page from Newsweek magazine, okay, 1963. I wrote in a letter to the editor, they was like, number one letter, I'm a 16 years old, okay, at that point, okay. And, and what, what, what was it, oh, I know it, it was the thing, they put a picture of milieu hard there. And it was Valentina Treshkova, okay, had become the first woman in space, okay. And the Soviet Union had sent her up, and I wrote a protest letter into Newsweek, okay. And I said that Valentina Treshkova has become the, has become the first woman on the anniversary, that milieu hard flew the ocean, whatever it was, was something big anniversary of her. And I said, I said, it, it obviously, you know, that milieu hard to lifelong, you know, fight for equal opportunity for American women remains to be one. That's 1963.