Well, thanks so much for your interest in our polling event. Yeah, tell us a little bit about what it is, what it is that you guys did with the polling event. Sure. A lot of elections season, a lot of churches will distribute voter guides or the preach will use the pulpit to tell us people how to vote, Christianly, et cetera. We said, what if we flip that around and actually didn't tell people who to vote for, but actually asked what they think. And so the obvious technology for us to use in that was live polling, poll everywhere as a service we used. And what we've done is generating a number of questions to help people think biblically about the issues and engage with them. And then they text in their answer live during the sermon. Now, you guys have a few weeks under your belt now. How has it gone? The response has been phenomenal. People love it. This past Sunday I said, OK, you got to hold your Bible in this hand and your iPhone in the other. And of course, for some people, it was the same thing. I think they liked that. And I don't know if they're a pension, but at least they can play angry birds during the sermon. But when I asked the questions, it was very interesting because as quickly as they caught on to it, I was wondering like, oh, is this technology going to be disruptive in the flow of thought? They actually began instantly texting in their answers even before I could finish the question. And the technology is kind of an anthropomorphic thing. So they could see it changing on stage on the screen that I was using referring to, which I think that really enhances it. It's not like, OK, give the results 10 minutes later, but they're watching the trending going up and down. So I had a real live feel to it. Now, how did that affect even your preparation? Because I mean, like you said, the numbers are changing as you're speaking. So I mean, did that affect your preparation at all? Yeah, it did. You know, there is, you know, again, some pastors like to script out all of their thoughts. We had to leave some room in there to say, hey, we're going to have to ad-lib the results here. Particularly like, you know, we have some baseline questions. Would you identify yourself more as conservative or liberal or independent? And what's interesting is we're a multi-site church. And so liquid has campuses in Morris town, which tend to be a fairly conservative area. It's fairly affluent. But then in New Brunswick, it's a college town home to Rutgers University. So typically a little bit more liberal there. And then Nuttley, New Jersey is a little bit more blue collar. So they had their live polling going on as well on their own screens. So you have to make some comments that are, you know, kind of bring everything together there, which is a challenge. I loved it. I see. So you even had the results for the specific campus. Right. Right. Exactly. Yeah. The campus, our broadcast campus in Morris town, New Jersey, where I was speaking live. I had the live, you know, numbers on stage. But then point to the side screens after our multi-site campuses. Wow. So it was even more complex than just simply having, you know, one ballot box essentially. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It wasn't just yesterday. No, you know, we're giving people multiple choice. Some of them are opinions. Some of them are trending ideas. But it really was, I'll tell you what it does is it creates such a sticky atmosphere then for the biblical teaching. You know, one of the questions we asked, you know, in this election, what's the most important issue facing, you know, our nation? Is it the economy? Is it social policy? You know, foreign issues? And of course, the economy skyrocketed. You're right. Everybody's like, oh no, it's a dead. It's the recession jobs. And it was so interesting because then we went immediately and looked at, you know, where Jesus is asked about the wedge issue of taxes. You know, do we give them the Caesar or not? Do you pair not? And it's like, wow, 2000 years and nothing's changed. We're still arguing over the economy. That's awesome. That's awesome. So, let me ask you, is this, is this a kind of technology that you would use in the future? Yeah, absolutely. I think for me as a pastor and a guy communicates and teaches, this is a different level of engagement. You know, you can, you know, ask people to raise their hand, et cetera, but this is so live. What I love again about is, it's not like, okay, text the results and then we just show them to you. It's actually trending as you're talking with the audience. So the audience becomes a participant. So my mind has already started expanding about like, hey, when we're done with this series poll, this has been a great application for it. But we're in, you know, future messages and future topics and issues, you know, can we solicit that live interaction? Right. And, you know, like you said about asking people to raise their hands, there's no element of peer pressure and group think. I mean, these are totally anonymous. Yeah, it's absolutely. I know exactly what you're saying because I think in churches, right, the tendency is, oh boy, there's a right answer and a wrong answer here. And if I raise my hand and say, oh, I'm a Democrat, am I going to get stoned? And I think honestly, this kind of, you know, that texting allows people who made that previously didn't have a voice or felt intimidated or didn't want to, you know, be seen a certain way. They just, you know, were able to say whatever they thought. And so it gave us a much more true read on the pulse of the community. Right. And like you said, the engagement as it was created such an environment of interactivity. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. It wasn't, you know, just, hey, what do you guys think? And let's talk about that. It's let's take the pulse kind of the zeitgeist right now. And then even ask people, think, you know, are you answering this as a Christian, as an American, as somebody who, you know, thinks more politically or, you know, as the, our kingdom theology kind of actually trump all of those. So it was a tool really in even helping people elevate the conversation. You know, I think like a topic like politics, it gets so petty, you know, and just very, who's right, who's wrong? It's binary choices. Yes or no. It's a very, very strong, right or left. And we're like, Jesus isn't red state or blue state. He's purple. And the questions we asked tried to elevate the conversation. Now, now that you've, now that you've done it, you have a few weeks. Where have you experienced this? Is this something that you would do every week or on special occasion? And what kind of pitfalls would you tell another pastor if he was thinking about doing something like that? If there is any. Yeah. And I think that's something I would use every week for the same reason that I wouldn't use a film clip every week. You know, you got to pick and choose your spots. I think, you know, the tendency is, oh, this really works. And then everyone does it to death. And then it actually loses its redemptive values. So I would choose this in specific spots where perhaps you're talking about a topic that has a number of different opinions. You know, if you're polling people for their background, I think it's a great technology to use, particularly on big days where you know, you're going to have first time visitors. This was a series where a lot of our people invited their friends to because it's a topic everyone's talking about around the water pooler and coffee chops and whatnot. So we had a lot of people to first time in church. And I had a guy come up to me after where he said, well, this was like a digital mass. So I guess he was Catholic and he hadn't been to church in a while. But he loved it. He loved the idea that actually the church, although we're holding, you know, firm to our message, 2000 years old, we're continuing to innovate with technology. So I'd say pick and choose the spots very strategically so that you don't overdo it over rely on it. Cool. All right. Well, thank you so much for your time, Pastor. And this kind of technology is something we'll certainly be reviewing more on church mag because it sounds pretty awesome. Awesome. Thanks, Eric. We're big fans of you of church mag for sure. So say hi to the gang there. All right. Thanks, Pastor Tim. Take care.