Sometimes there's this false notion that you need to do everything on your own. Yeah. And you need to fix it on your own. You need to show up for yourself on your own. And when you think about it, the way we are designed as human beings is we are dependent on others for our wellbeing. But really, yes. Think about when you're a baby, you need that mother or caretaker in order to survive. We've been having that conversation with this therapy session podcast with several people that realization of it's bigger than you. Yeah. Talking to the musicians who truly realize that they're creating music that's bigger than them. Have an opportunity to sit down with Kenneth's freaking Cole and have him be one of the biggest designers, you know, and fashion houses on the planet and know that it's bigger than him, the reason why he's doing that. When did you come to that realization that it was bigger than you and how that make your practice and make what you continue to do, even that much more special or stronger? I never really thought about it until I was actually doing the work as a therapist. And I would almost feel like a channel. Okay. Like, some things would come through me and I'd be like, where did that come from? Like, I'm not sure that came just from me. And so it was this realization that, you know, I was working with a lot of different channels and factors. Right. Listen, we don't always get it right. It's the human experience and it's a process. But I think if you stay true to, you know, part of the therapy that I use is making what's unconscious conscious. Bringing it to life. Because there are things that we're not aware of that really drives our choices. And if we remain unconscious about it, it can be damaging for us. And you don't know why we're drawn to certain things or making certain choices. And so that is the beauty of the therapy that a person gets to understand themselves better. And who's more fascinating to learn about than yourself? Your self. When that light bulb goes off, it's just like that feeling like, oh, now I get it. Now I can be a better version of myself to help others as well. Holy cow, as we think about, you know, therapy and, you know, maybe the little bit of the stigma, we get into that in a few, but people have reservations, you know, wanting to seek help or have these conversations. What are some of the ways that you, you suggest or you can maybe help people get over that staying closed in and actually seeking a little bit of help to, you know, to open those doors to peel back those layers of the onion? Well, there are certain cultural components where there's a lot of shame. And families feel like if their child or their spouse or if they go into treatment, they're shaming their families by not being perfect. And that's a tough one because there's a sense of family loyalty. And so we see that in multiple cultures, but I think the more we talk about it and make it a norm. Like in New York City, it's kind of like having a personal trainer. If you can't get a therapist, it's like having a personal trainer. And you know, I once heard someone say it like this, like the Jewish community really embraced therapy because Freud invented it. He was Jewish. He just felt like a natural, like right-of-pastage, like having your bar about minutes, but it's like, and then you do therapy. Yeah, just felt normal. So I think the more we talk about it, and I do think that people are more willing to talk about things that never got discussed. And would you say that that part is maybe like a little bit of recent history type of thing? Yeah, I mean, how would you say the progression? Because I feel like just recently, it has been a lot more destigmatized. That's the right way to communicate. So to watch that change start to happen, how excited are you for us as a species, as a Cuban species, to be able to actually grow to be better? It's really incredible. And sometimes there's this false notion that you need to do everything on your own. Yeah. And you need to fix it on your own. You need to show up for yourself on your own. And when you think about it, the way we are designed as human beings is we are dependent on other, sort of, well-being. But do you want to be? Think about when you're a baby. You need that mother or caretaker in order to survive. And I think it's no different with our psyche. And when we learn that someone can help us clarify things, it's almost like before therapy, there's the struggle. And usually people enter into therapy because they're in pain. And they don't know how to fix the pain. Or somebody else sees them in pain and says, you might want to try this as an option. And it's like the road that you need to go, the choices that you might want to make, there's a clarification. It's like having a foggy road in front of you versus a road on a sunny day. Like this, thank you New York for showing up today. Yeah. Love it. So we all know those days. The foggy day you can't see like, you know, in front of you and all, and it's a bad hair day. And then it's- I would know about that part, so I'm just going to get on and eat. Yeah. That's a story of my bad hair day, story of my life. Or like a clear, beautiful day. And the choices, like life is painful enough. There are things that are beyond our control. And then I guess it's our job to find out how to find meaning in those things. But we don't need to make life tough by making self-defeating or self-destructive choices. And so I see therapy as a way to highlight, hey, what might be my best interest? I love that. And again, it goes back to what you realize in the second grade. It's very- you start helping. It's for others. It's bigger than the new.