Brother, this is not meant to be like a click baitie kind of move for the views question, but so just so just All good. I know what's coming. I genuinely want to know what thoughts on the Moscow mood conversation. Yeah Yeah, I really loaded that up and I think Kevin did a service to us writing on that I think Kevin realized that he was going to take a lot of incoming on that He told me probably a month or two before he was ready to release that that he brought it up at ETS And gave me sort of an early draft of it. I think that's a good warning to send right now I think there are there are some people in our culture today Who are saying that here this is the model of faithfulness lob grenades and and and I think I think it's really good for guys like Kevin who himself Kevin's got back Kevin is willing to speak into things that he knows are going to get people upset He's down for it But that doesn't mean that you are the most faithful when you are lobbying the most grenades indiscriminately in every direction and when you are doing click baitie stuff on you know It's one thing to to larp Faithfulness and courage on social media. It's another thing to do it in real life and And I and I you've got a lot of live action role playing going on in the social media world from guys Actin like they're tough that put them in a room and you'd have them in a fetal position in three seconds and and that's it's not good for that voice to influence our our young folks We are going to have to cultivate backbone But we're also going to have to cultivate a love for the world that hates us Bill Davis who teaches at At covenant college says that the most common student the question that he gets from his philosophy students is Dr. Davis teach me how to love a world that hates me And you know, so I want them I don't want them to get any of their signals from the world I want them to get all their signals from the Bible I want them to be faithful to the whole panoply of Christian doctrine But I want them thinking how can I reach out to this lost world? How can I love people that hate me Not how can I make them hate me more How can I demoralize and demean them with every word that I say how can I drive them away from the gospel for the sake of branding and building my own And even wound my brothers and sisters are on the way correct. Yeah, and so I think that's I really appreciate Kevin being willing to Wade into that and I think it can underneath that is it's it's not only a mood There's a there's a theological view of the church of the gospel of Fidelity and there are problems at each of those levels underneath that I'm about to ask you about big Eva But because you are one of the patriarchs of it. I don't expect an honest answer from you But let's just let's just play this game. Okay, setting a low bar for me I Mean what do you think when people talk about this shadowy syndicate this big machine of big Eva? um Most of the conversation that I hear about big Eva is complete nonsense Uh, and it is funny some of the some of the biggest critics of big Eva if there is a big Eva there it uh, you know I could name organizations far larger and more extensive than the gospel coalition for instance Yeah, but boy do they hate the gospel that hate the gospel coalition and and they've got more money They've got more reach they've got more you know And and and they'll jump in on the big Eva conversation So a lot of it is just nonsense and I pay no attention to it whatsoever now have people been Disappointed by leaders unwilling to take stands on important things. Sure. I'm sure that's happened You know welcome to the fallen world uh And I I want us to be people of principle and sometimes that means calling out people that we love and care about But you can you can do that in such a way That is not uh, we have a culture in in a in a part of angelic right Evangelism right now that is De-sensitized to its own spirit of mocking and slander and that's that kind of goes back to the Moscow mood Mocking and slander is not a Christian way of dealing with anything And so you know of many of those mockers and and slanderers I have no reason to even think they're Christians. Can I pause you out there? Well Because I know somebody from that world will hear you say that and go this guy doesn't know his Bible What about the prophets what about Jesus look at the way Paul talks how would you respond to that? Well, I mean what one thing is Jesus was neither a mockery or a slanderer. Oh, okay, so I'd wait when When and if you by the way if if if some of these folks had been around They would have been going yay John the Baptist Jesus. You're a weasel John is preaching truth to power. Why don't you come out and say why don't you go up to and say here? And you fox you know why don't you why don't you be like John and I think one of the things the Bible teaches you Is there different ways to be faithful? You know if if if some of these people had been around they would have been on Daniel like white on rice. You're a sellout You you work for the wickedest king in the world you are facilitating his wickedness and his ungodly rule Yeah, Daniel is a high ranking official in a pagan empire with extensive influence in how The the empire works So it in the Bible you find believers in very different Circumstances dealing differently now You know is is Daniel willing to go to the lion's den rather than stop praying to his god Yeah, but he's still working for the government You know and there's some people who'd call you out today. Yeah for for that You