I'm Ash Sarkar from Avarmedia and I'm here with the one and only Diane Abbott, Shadow Holmes Secretary. Thank you so much for joining us. It's a pleasure to be here. So I've got a few questions for you and one of them is you are one of the most experienced MPs in Jeremy Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet. What has changed for women of colour in politics since 1987? Well, first of all, there are more women of colour in politics at every level. Jeremy Hires, one two three four women of colour in the Shadow Cabinet and that's a first. I think that in all the professions actually women of colour are in numbers they were not before but that doesn't mean to say that we've defeated racism or sex in them. There's no question that since 1987 you see more women of colour in professional positions. So when you first became an MP there was a vibrant, populous anti-racist movement in the UK. Things have changed quite a bit. Do you think that Labour is connecting well with that kind of grassroots anti-racist movement? Is there stuff that Labour could do better? Do you have any ambitions or hopes for seeing a revival of that kind of mass scale anti-racist organising? Well, Jeremy himself has consistently been involved in grassroots anti-racist organising and still continues to support it and take part in events. I think what happened was there's a generation of young people of colour who thought the way forward was to keep their heads down and become sort of new Labour if you like. And that was unfortunate because it stalled the progress that people like myself and Bernie made in the 80s and early 90s but I think we've been liberated from that and you've seen some amazing young black activists out there. And Jeremy and I and many others want to engage with and support those activists. When you mentioned people being afraid to kind of put their head above the parapet you've of course done that and to see you handle such horrendous abuse with grace, poise and fearlessness has been inspiring for women of colour watching you go through all that and who might be put off entering politics or putting their head above the parapet what's your advice for them? Well first of all some of the horribleness that I've endured as a politician is only a sort of exaggerated version of some of the negativity that black women and a lot of professions and a lot of roles in society have to experience. So and it's coming from the same place and I think what we'll get you through it is knowing what you're believing, the support for your friends and family and knowing that it's really important that all of us in however greater way or smaller way make things better for younger generation. Cool thank you so much for joining us Diane and good luck over conference. Thank you.