Good. You gonna hold it? Hi, this is Nemi. Welcome to Mike. And Nemi plus. Hey, we did it on the first shot. Yep. Okay, so this is gonna be unedited straight through eight minutes. I don't overlay this on a video. Hopefully Michael's cough is not as bad as the birth blood. Yeah, I don't want to explode your ears while I cough it. I should go grab some water. No. Gosh, go grab some or have a loss injury or something. Oh, no, it's okay. So have a whole question free. Okay. What would you like to talk about today? I don't know. I guess I guess it's going to be interesting to talk about how the third baby is different than the first one. Okay. Okay. We both noticed that we didn't really experience having any impatience towards it. Which is really interesting because for dial ahead and Z, like when they would cry, it's like, oh, again. Right. Right. What is it this time? Like, like, you have that kind of selfish, you still have that selfish kind of predispositional mentality. Right. And you're being stretched a lot. You're not used to. You are getting stretched a lot. You're not used to sleeping four hours a day and being stretched every 30 minutes to an hour. And you're not used to breastfeeding and going through that pain. Yeah. The bottle needs a physical pain. Yeah. And you're not used to the signs that the baby is giving you for a different needs. Yeah. But this time you realize that, you know, it is a new born. It doesn't matter how many times a newborn cries or is irritated or sick or something like that. In fact, I feel like it's cute. Like, I kind of like when she cries. I'm like, oh, what do you need this time? It's not like, what do you need this time? It's like, yeah. Oh, what is it? Exactly. Me too. I see it that way. Yeah, right? I see it that way. It's just very adorable. You're amazing. I'm very, I don't know how to put it into words right now. It's just full. I'm just very blessed. I'm thankful. Yeah, I feel really blessed too. Yes. Yes. And it's kind of funny how, like, I remember you said, what the first, it's like, okay, how do you survive? And then with the second, it's like, okay, when is this going to be over? Like another three years. And then now it's just like, the child is like, I don't want the time to pass. Yeah, even the fact that like in a week she'll look so different and she'll grow so much bigger than she is now. In a month, I'm like, no, I wanted to stay puny forever. And our three, all our kids are exactly or close to about three years apart. Three years apart, yeah. For the first child, it is something that it's new. You don't know how to raise a child. And it's nothing that you're used to. It's challenging and difficult. Yeah. But the second you have one that's a bit older and the older ones needs are more emotional and social. Whereas the younger one, it's more purely physical. Yeah. So it becomes difficult going back and forth between the two. Yeah. They do say sometimes having twins are even easier because the needs are always the same at the same time. But if you have two children with different needs at the same time, then it makes it harder than having twins. Where you can do the same thing at the same time. And later on, they can play with each other. Right. And I find out the three, what I hear from other parents is that it's just another addition to the difficulty, I guess. I guess so. Yeah, the two other kids and maybe one of them is in the program and the two of them, their needs are more similar. They can play with each other too. And then you have three, you only have two hands, so you have to put one down. Yes, and we get out numbered. Yeah. So it gets pretty difficult. Yeah, but I find that so far, it's been pretty good. She's been such a blessing because she's been very clear. She's like an in between between Gala and Zeke. Yeah. She has the calmness, like the calmness of Gala had, but the clear clarity of Zeke. The clarity of Zeke. Yeah. Because Zeke cried a lot. But he was just angry. And he was frustrated because he wasn't eating well. Yeah. Because he wasn't latching well. He wasn't nursing well. But he would be clear. Like he was clear. If anything was uncomfortable, burping or pooling or hungry, he would just cry. He would cry. And so our third child does that as well. But then once she gets what she needs, she gets what she's just calm. She's just calm. Yeah. And that sense has been quite a blessing. Yeah. And people have been asking like, oh, are the boys Gela's at all? Right. But we've seen no signs of Gela's seeing. Mom. It's just been such a blessing, I think, for them too. They really love her. Like they come and see her. They come in like, touch her hand. Yes. And they're like, oh, she's so small. She's so cute. Yes, yes, exactly. And I don't think, at least for me, I won't have an issue of Avertism at all. Or I don't think they will go through any kind of jealousy. I think it really depends on how we approach and communicate with them as well. Right. Like if we were nagging them or scolding them in a way that's demeaning or derogatory towards them. And favoring her, then that would be different. And you can explain everything. Yeah. If you reason with them and explain it objectively, then there's no space for hard feelings or resentment. Exactly. And children, even as young as like four or five are, you can reason with them. You can explain. They understand. They understand. They understand. They understand. They understand. They give reasons for what you're doing and why you're doing or why you can't be something. Right. If you just say, like, be quiet, then like, not having. Yes, that's a good. Yes. You have to say, like, oh, you're sister sleeping right now. Right. We have to be quiet because she's going to wake up and it's going to be hard for her. Yes. And then it would be difficult. I didn't have to prepare this. I'll take away time from this and that. But you know, this morning, Zeke, he woke up around seven a.m. and I was holding the baby. Uh-huh. I was holding her. And I can't see her name because we didn't reveal her name yet. Uh-huh. But I was holding her and then Zeke really wanted the Ana. He wanted to be healthy. But I was holding her, right? Right. So Zeke wanted it so bad. Like I've put her in one, my left arm. And then Zeke is heavy, right? He's like over 30 pounds. Yeah. And then I was tired too. It was seven a.m. in the morning and we didn't get to sleep. So you're holding both of them? He kind of just hung on my leg in one arm and he took my hand. Wait, he hung on your leg and arm. Well, I was sitting down, yeah. Oh, okay. So he really wanted to just that skin to skin contact. So he was kind of clinging onto your lap while on your shoulder. Yes. But he was facing me. Right. He was like, face, chest down on me. Right. He's like a koala. Yes, a koala. He took my right arm and he took my palm, my hand and placed it on his back. Like he just wanted me to hold him. To it, yeah, to hold him. Yeah. And that was funny. Oh, that's so cool. Every morning when he wakes up because he's cranky, he needs that like 10 minutes of just holding time. Physical, physical affection. And he's like that, right? Skin to skin. Yes. And I think I need to give him that because I can't expect him. Okay, all of a sudden one day later, you're just just born and now you can't. The fun thing is, I'm like that too. So it might be like a disposition that we have that need the physical need. The physical need that we have to feel. Yes. Love. Comfort. Love. And security. It's physical touch. Sometimes I just need to like have one toe touching your one toe. Yes. And I'm not good at that. Like for me, I don't need that. I don't like that. I don't like body heat. Yeah, he likes space. I just like space. Yeah. I see how much time I get left. It's seven. Okay. We have about 30 seconds to wrap up. Okay. I don't know. It's been such a blessing. And yes. And I feel like natural feminists been such a blessing to everyone has been pouring out and overflowing with encouragement. Congratulations. Prayer, monitor, support. Prayer. Gifts from the registry. Yes. It's been such an amazing time of just being showered with. Yes. Yes. Thank you for sharing this moment of us and going through this. Oh, you're so much just kind of like a hungry. No, I think I'm digesting my food. Okay. Thank you for listening in. Yeah, this was trying. Yeah, thanks for preparing this Michael. Okay, see you later. You're welcome. Bye bye. That's not how we share. Oh, how do I end it? Okay. So thanks for things. Okay, bye. Bye.