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Yes, good point. Comparing both of their first years. Okay. Yep. So 26 and a half versus 25. One less tackle a game. Who's the bigger tackle? I'm not butchering this. Walsh averaged one more tackle a game. Walsh averaged for three and a half more contested possession. So one a bit more of his own ball. Efficiency was the main difference. So 77. Dehoss and 65. Walsh. Yeah. And Meters gained 401 day costs, 316 Walsh. Score involvements were similar but day costs 0.7 higher. And clearances 1.8 to day costs and 3.4 to Walsh. So day costs has him covered on a lot of that. One thing that I'll say for Walsh is he's playing inside mid a lot more. And day costs is playing that more unaccountable defensive role. So I'd say I'm not going to say day costs is clearly better than Walsh. I think Walsh was a bit more stunning to me in the sense that he was winning his own ball a little bit more. And it's pretty close. Even like Joycey asked in our group chat earlier, he said whoever the four options was Walsh, Day Cost, Horned Francis and Matt Rao. And most of us chose Walsh just because of the extra runs on the board. Yeah. He sort of showed he's got the highest floor of the probably the group. I'd agree with that currently. But I don't really have any. Day costs could peep him though I think. Because I don't really have any doubt that day costs are going to be a star midfielder. It's just right now he's playing possibly. I'd say let's give Walsh him credit. I think day costs are playing an easier role than Walsh did. However, I still don't remember I'd end new year old other than Walsh playing as well as Day Cost. Like 40 and 3 is stupid. That's insane. I would've been interested to see if Rao got a full season that first season. Yeah. Even he was a bit more. He was more clear and see even more driven. I couldn't see him getting for even that year. Short and quarters. But he was a game breaker in that time as well. Which is stunning. Yeah. Actually thought of one final little debate here for the podcast as a WI special. I only bring this up because Joyce brought it up in the group chat that we have. I think there's a bit of a little bit of social around it. I had the conversation the night before with Beary about the same topic. Yeah. So anyone who doesn't follow the WI team can probably switch off. It's not that interesting. But I think it's a good interesting chat because we always have a good balance of West Coast and Freenannel opinions on here. And the topic Joyce brought up was it was a screenshot from God knows who. Let's call it seven. Thank you all the seven. I never paid attention. Thank you all the seven. Thank you all the seven. I never paid attention. Saying Josh Kennedy is just a past Pavlich as the greatest goal scorer from West Australian club. Who was better? Something like that. And Joyce said the way he's raised it was funny. He's like, I wouldn't go as far to say as I'm insulted. But Pavlich was comfortably better. So that spurred a little bit of a healthy debate. Otherwise, be respectful. What are your thoughts on how do you compare and contrast Matthew Pavlich and Josh Kennedy as footballers? Well, I sort of think like Pav is a better in multiple roles. Like Pav's that guy, if it's like an eight and a half out of ten defender midfielder forward. He's proven that as an Australian in all three lines. He's probably more than an eight and a half forward. But I agree with your point. But like we are talking about a guy who kicks 700 goals. So outstanding forward and very, very good midfielder and back. I mean, we say midfielder like it was a while between drinks in terms of him playing midfielder. Like it wasn't like he was a prodigious midfielder for his whole career. It was sort of like a mid-twenty sort of positive type of midfielder. Did he get an... So Joyce made the point that he got an Australian in multiple positions. Did he get an Australian midfielder? Yeah. Yeah, right where he was at. And... Oh, 80. Was he shut? Yeah. As a wingman maybe. Probably a wing year on interchange mid. That's an outstanding achievement. Yeah. And the... Like I'd crunch the numbers on like how prestigious, making an Australian is it's 22 out of... It was like 700 players or whatever's in the AFL. Yeah. Like 44 times 18. Whatever that is it was 22. That was the top 2.7% of players make the Australian in 22. Yeah. Yeah, right. In multiple positions that's pretty fucking impressive. Yeah. But my thing, because I ultimately did lean towards J.K.A. even as a docker's fan in this one, it's just he was the best forward arguably of his era. Where his power was just sort of like close to that mark. But yeah. Yeah. So interestingly you... And Coleman and Flags are bigger achievements than pretty much anything. The flag doesn't really weigh in to me personally, because I think comparing it to like basketball, you have a lot less impact on how well your team does as a single player. Yeah. So the flag doesn't weigh in for me. I grew with the logic. I actually didn't have a strong opinion, either way. I think I said it's a toss up. It isn't being a toss up. I think Kennedy was the better forward. You know, he played significantly less games. You can make the point that played around the ground in a worse team. It wasn't that much worse I would argue. Because West Coast had down years and free metal had good years in that time as well. It'd save West Coast where the slightly better side. But I think J.K.A. was just a prodigious forward that was consistently close to the best in the game. At times, best in the game was... Like I don't know what Pave's highest finish on the Coleman's been. I don't know what that... I don't have that information, but I don't think... Maybe top five, too, in there, but... I think Kennedy could go down as probably... Possibly West Coast second best ever player. And that's a huge testament to how good he is, because West Coast obviously has a pretty proud history for 35 years or whatever. Who's that best player? John. Oh, see, you're trying to do your best player for your second best player. True. That's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah, I mean, we're going to segue about Kennedy versus Cousins of the material. But I mean, the resume stacks up, I think. But Kennedy is just insanely talented player. Like he can still do stupid things. Like we're still generating so few inside 50s and at 35 years old, barely physically able to play. He's still doing ridiculously good things. And there was, I think, a couple of years where he won the Coleman in a row and the one before that or in like after that, he missed out in the final round because Buddy kicked eight and Kennedy and the NINISFile games and something. So yeah, I don't know. I agree. Kennedy did a better forward, Pavelich, possibly the better overall player. I don't have a strong opinion. And certainly... I would say probably the better, like more skilled overall, can do more things on a football field, talented player, but in pure forward, Joe Kennedy's hard to bet. Yeah, I agree with that. He's close to all time. Yeah, yeah. I don't think Pavelich quite had Kennedy in terms of forward. But yeah, overall, don't have a strong opinion. I could concede and say Pavelich, but I will put it up to the comment section as well, who do you think was the better player? I think age will come into this as well, because Pavelich obviously played almost a generation before. Kennedy, we're not really, but yeah. So yeah, interesting. Anyway, we'll wrap up the podcast there. It's been good. Yeah, probably won't do one until September now. So, yeah, stay tuned. Yeah, I'll be away guys. I'll still do videos until I leave, but for now, we'll probably bid a due, as they say. Thank you for your time, Bullshaw. Thank you very much. Absolutely. And we'll see you soon, guys. Take it easy. Double Shoggins.