When your graphic design is finally gets the respect that it deserves. So as for this boost, one of the graphic design groups that I'm in and I decided to react to it. Hey everybody, innocent and welcome to the channel. Over here we make videos like this. If that is something that sounds like you're interested, kindly consider subscribing. So that is to respect that some graphic design is being received. It's very, I don't know they're very objective to use it. But sometimes it's very gallantly, it's very marbling, they're satious, it's just exasperating. I don't know they're objective to use. But then how do you send this proposal, this kind of thing? Let me read it from here for you. I need someone who can do a logo for me. My company needs a logo designer. Please, this is what they are looking for. 50 samples of graphic design logos with 2D, colors with reddish brown, coloured and front size of 12. After that, if I like your work, then we go straight to the contract. You have three days only to finish this project and submit it for reviewing. You are asking someone to design one logo, 50 samples of the logo within a matter of three days. That is not a problem. But to go on to say that they are having like three days to submit all of this whole project. And then you're going to review it and after that, if you like the design, then it goes straight to the contract. I mean, who does that? What sort of disrespect is this? Now, the problem is I see that many people or many clients try to disrespect. Graphic design is not because they intentionally know that they are doing it. Many people don't even know the co-concept of design, the design process, what actually goes on into design. I think people do this because they think that the graphic design process is just very quick, simple and straightforward. Like, you take your machine, you sit down and then you try to come up with a logo. And then you are going to design like 50 logo samples within a matter of three days. What the clients don't actually know is that they are not actually paying for the time that they are using it to design. Because someone might think that why do I pay for like $10 for five minutes work or 10 minutes work? But what they don't know is that they are not paying for the time spending making the design. Rather, they are paying for the number of yes, the person has invested in learning. Someone has invested like 10 years experience, like they have 10 years experience in doing what they do and that is why they can do it in 10 minutes. You seem able to run like nine seconds of sprint because it was able to practice or train for decades, train for years, train for hours and that is why you could do that in seconds. So what clients should actually understand is that they are not paying for the number of hours or minutes people spend doing their works, they are paying for the knowledge and then the number of yes that they have invested in doing that. Now, you see, I've read a quote that says that if you really think that paying for a high design is very costly, try a very cheap design. Design is make an impact in whatever product or whatever design that they touch on. If you get a very good designer to work on your product packaging for you, it's self. If you get a designer to work on your flyers for you for advice, it's actually self. So why don't they actually invest the money in hiring a designer that will do their job for you? Is that a going for something very cheap that in the long run is going to affect your business? Design is make an impact in whatever product or design that they do. Clients you get this. Now, first of all, this screenshot on Twitter and then the creatives came running at it. Let me read some of the tweets for you. Okay, so this is coming from Quesi Mufasa and then he says that this will be my response. This is very doable. For the 50 logos requested, here is an invoice, 1500 CD-SPED design and thus on discount. To begin designing, can we make a 70% down payment non-refundable? If you like it, pay the 30% and remove to a contract. This is a very simple response. He's going to charge 1500 CD-SPED for each of the samples, not all the samples, but each of the samples and he had to make 70% before he even starts the work. It's not according to what the person said that after reviewing everything and then he likes it, then he's going to give it. No, it doesn't actually make sense. Okay, so this is coming from Sandy and Ponceau and then he says that 50 samples of logo in 3 days before contract discussion. It's the audacity for me. I mean, the impudence, the gust. Someone has the audacity to actually say this. And someone is also saying that a dima full ban on me. I can't really believe it. A dima full ban. And then this is coming from Romeo. He says, we keep in considered employer. I don't think this is even coming from like renowned company or something. This might be actually an independent work. And Cosmos Aynonsoul in your arms says that the impudence sets across this respect. I think they re-tweeted the quoted tweet. It's what is really funny about this whole issue. Michael Pyrrhe says that first you'd have to review or preview my portfolio. If you like it, you head into a contract. If not, you move on to the next designer. I think this is one of the things that designers should actually practice. If you come to me for a design, I have so many works that I've done already. I'm going to send you my portfolio. If you like it, then we move into a contract. If you don't move on to the designer, it's that very simple. Okay, the next one is that the nonsense that some of these clients bring to creatives is so annoying. Sometimes you just receive a message and then like you just move on. Just move on so that you don't think it's sort of the person. So I think these are some of the runs that people are saying on the post on Twitter. I'll leave the link in the description if you want to read the whole rant. And then you want to add your spirit. But the question is, are these runs going to solve the problem? And of course, the answer is no. What then do we have to do? I personally think that as creatives, you would have to take this on as a different level. We have to see this from a different perspective. What can we do then? I think as individual designers, what we can do is we need to create value for ourselves. By shuffling our knowledge and our skills. Now, you don't walk into KFC or Pizarman. And then he asks to test some of their food before deciding to buy. Who does that? No one. So I think the value that KFC and Pizarman ask for themselves gives them that opportunity that no one can walk into the office and ask for a test before they decide to buy. So as a designer, the more you sharpen your skills and the more you sharpen your knowledge, the more you create value for yourself. I don't think clients can propose some of these or send these proposals to people like Chris too. That is because of the value that they created for themselves. That is because of the skillset, how much they've built, their skillset. Also, as a team or as a profession or as a group or whatever designers, we need to come to that knowledge of trying to educate the young ones, the upcoming ones on some of these things. Because you see the problem is sometimes you are not willing to take these 50 samples of logo, design it in 3 days before contract is discussed. But the one that is coming up right now or the one that is test-free for the money, the one that is test-free for the job, they go into it and this client may see that they always have alternatives in it and so they will keep doing that. So if you are able to educate ourselves and educate the young ones that are coming on some of these things, I think the whole of this will be solved. Okay, so how do you feel about the whole of this issue, what are your thoughts about this whole thing and what is your general thoughts about the whole idea of graphic designers, being a lot appreciated and a paid and a valid for all the value that they provide to the industry? I would definitely love to hear your thoughts and your ideas in the comments section and if you want to join the conversation on Twitter, you can follow me at www.setamasko.inocents.com and then join the conversation. Thank you so very much for sticking around to watch this video. 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