Do you know Shakal? In nature they even suffer the cows or whatever they've cut they suffer them. I cannot tell a jackal what to do. You can change what you do to the animals. A jackal right? They grab a animal, they rip their throat out or they're... Yeah, should I do that? A jackal does it. This is a dairy milk. You know milk? They produce milk for their babies but the farmers take the babies away. Do you drink milk from cow? Yeah. Do you have a wonder why you do that? I thought it was healthy. Thought it was healthy? Yeah. But it's for a cow. This is... they kill the calves. Well the male calves they don't produce milk. So they can kill them for like baby calf and meat which is called vial. You heard a vial? Vial? I don't know what. It's a small calf meat. Sometimes they let them grow bigger for beef. This is a dairy farm. They throw some dead calves in the bin. I'll see if there's no what's the government checking them in your country? Yeah, England has some of the highest standards in the world. That's what they say. This is legal. It's all legal. Legal? Yeah. Standard. Where are you from? Whereabouts? Turkey. Turkey? Yes. Turkey, everyone's from Turkey? Okay. Yeah, I'm sure it's not much different. Totally. Probably worse. Probably. Yeah. Because in the name of God they're killing the calves even slowly. Yeah. Yeah. Hello? Is it Muslims in Turkey? I don't know. There is a lot of... Yeah, a house slaughter. I mean this is just no bolt just and suffering. See this animal doesn't want to die. They don't want to die. No one wants to die. What have I said to you? Will there only animals? Three cares? There are only animals. Chalka, dine, dine. No. No. It's so kind of... It's horrible. It's bad. You can't watch it. Do you eat animals? Do you eat meat? Sometimes. When you go to the store and you take your money and you give it to the person to buy meat, that's why this happens. But even monkeys eat meat and they're sure? Yeah, but we don't care about what monkeys do or what lions do or what tigers do because we are humans. And we don't act how animals act in nature. Yeah. Like do you think we should act how animals like monkeys act? Think about it. No. Or just wouldn't just with meat nothing else? No, but I don't know actually don't we look like monkeys? I don't know. Well, I mean what you're doing is you're pointing to nature and you're saying some monkeys do this. We should do this. No, I'm not supporting any of it. Yeah, are you saying it's natural to eat meat? Yeah, I was thinking about that. Yeah, but I don't why do we care what is natural? Because to live a healthy life, I don't support you. So you think natural means healthy? What? Do you believe that natural means healthy? Kind of. What is it? Cocaine is natural. There's a lot of things in nature that are cruel and that are unhealthy. Is there anything else that gives the same amount of proteins, vitamins that meat gives right now? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, of course. Every single nutrient you can think of that we need comes from plants other than B12, vitamin D. Vitamin D comes from the sun. B12 is produced by bacteria in the soil and we can supplement with B12. Yeah, but we are nearly same as monkeys. It's an atomic wave. Yeah, but gorillas are herbivores. Yeah, we are. It doesn't matter what we are. What matters is what is moral to do? We could be omnivore. I don't think we act like a omnivore or carnivore. We don't act like one. Like a carnivore doesn't look at this and go, oh my god, no, a carnivore goes, mmm dinner. This is what a carnivore does. A monkey doesn't watch this and go, oh, like you used to doing. Do you know Shaq al? Jaq al. Yeah, Jaq al. In nature they even suffer the cows or whatever they couch they suffer them to that. Yeah, they torture them. Do you want them to stop it? Do you want them? I cannot tell a Jaq al. Yeah. What to do? You can change what you do to the animals. You can. Because you are a human being and you understand right and wrong. Yeah. The Jaq al does not understand. They're in nature. They're surviving. You're not. You're not. And you're not a Jaq al. You don't want to torture animals to death. So because a Jaq al tortures animals, that doesn't mean I can. A Jaq al, right? They grab an animal, they rip their throat out or they tear. Yeah, should I do that? No. Why not? A Jaq al does it. A monkey eats meat. A lion does this. We are more animal. Exactly. Ethics, morals, civilized. Yeah. I just want to ask this if they want to die while suffering just I quit that. Can we eat meat in that way? If I killed you without causing you suffering, it's wrong to kill you. Yeah, but they're not thinking, right? As you say. These are thinking, but not of ethics. They are experiencing the world. Animals are. Right? They're experiencing reality. They experience well-being, happiness, sadness. Okay? They don't want to be killed. Yeah. I understand. But in Africa, there are lots of countries that have access to drink water. I care more people than animals right now. I'm sorry, but So you're saying because there's other problems, we shouldn't we should keep doing this? No, this is this won't stop in some countries. They will. Yeah. I understand. I want to know about you. What should you do? I don't know. I will think about what can I do. Maybe I will go vegan, but I can't give that. I can't say it's right now. No, no, of course. I'm not asking you. I'm asking you to think about what we are doing, right? I have parents and they will maybe even force me to intimate because they will think it's a healthy way to grow up. Yeah. And maybe they will even force me to eat. Well, you should be healthy. Yeah. I mean, I've got some information about about plant-based diets. Yeah. There's some good science on plant-based diets. I would look social about it down to. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, let me just let me just get you some information. Then you can like think about it. How about some stuff on health here? Because you don't need meat, you need nutrients. Yeah. Your body needs nutrients. It doesn't need meat. Can I ask about this stuff? Yeah. In Arabia or other Middle Eastern countries, Muslim countries, they search a lot of animal-ish as... Religion. Celebration. Yeah. Eat. A religious thing. Then how can it stop? That's a big problem. Yeah. I don't know. The only way it will stop is through people changing, like the new generation, like yourself. We can't stop it. You have to convince people that killing each other as long, but they say, no, my religion. This religion is right. This religion is right. How do I stop that? I don't know. There's problems that are really hard to solve, which is why I just ask, for you to have your conscience in control what you do. You just have to teach new generation to... Okay, I understand. I'll think about it and I'll talk to my parents. Nice. Really nice to talk to you. See you later. Take care. Take care, bye-bye. Hi, brother. My two friends are Muslim and they don't know if what you can teach to them or what you can suggest. Oh, well, it's just... it's the same principle really. It's the same idea. They didn't understand from my mouth. I think that is... Okay, who's Muslim? Who's Muslim? Well, first of all, it's actually not to ram to not eat animals. You're allowed to be vegan and Muslim. We don't need to cut off animals' heads. They're not only thinking in religious way, they're thinking in natural way or healthy way. Oh, natural. Yeah, they do. They want to know health way. I mean, what do you... because what you did is you said in nature we eat animals. The animals eat animals. That's what it was. Animals like you said, a monkey. Searching... A jaco lion they eat animals. And I was saying that it doesn't matter what wild animals do in nature. We shouldn't look at nature to an act the same way. We shouldn't act how animals act in nature. And I know you don't do that because you would have a problem with me jumping on an animal and torturing them to death. You would say that that was wrong. And if I said, well, it happens in nature, you would say, I don't care. It's wrong. Don't torture animals. But torture happens all the time in nature. But I'm asking us to act civilized to animals, to care about them. Because we don't need to... Another thing with Halaal fish are not included in Halaal guidelines. They're not included. We know now that fish are sentient and they feel pain and they suffer. We know this. Science shows us. Also, another thing that they don't have Halaal guidelines for is milk and eggs. Right? There's no mention it. But these animals are all cause suffering and are slaughtered. In the dairy industry, they take the car from the mother, which causes them trauma suffering. This is a harm causing animal suffering. Most animals are in factories. You know, cause suffering. This is what happens. You can still be Muslim and vegan. I know many, many, many vegan Muslims. No problem. No problem. So it's okay. No questions. No worries. Thank you.