A couple of years ago, when actually I just started acting as your agent, I came out to LA. We sat down to talk about the future of what your projects were going to be. We had no inkling of doing a black Irish, and the profession was on the horizon. So my big thing was I'm going to get Pressfield to do a series character. I'm going to make this great character in the profession, a series character, and Bang, Bang, Bang will do a Tom Clancy kind of like Jack Ryan thing. It's going to be incredible. I forgot about that completely. It's going to be incredible. So I gave you maybe 45 minutes of a pitch, and you were giving me your Pressfield nods. And then you're like, you know, that's a pretty good idea, and I'll think about it. But there is one project that I've kind of been mulling. And you said, I'd like to do my next novel, novel about the Six Day War. And I was like, you want to write a novel about the Six Day War? And you were like, yeah, I want to sort of make it like a Gates of Fire and sort of use fictional characters, but to use as much of the history. So I'm going to need to go to Israel. I'm going to need to talk to these guys. I need to get the background. I need to talk to, you know, and I'm like, you're talking about a narrative nonfiction book. And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, not anything about nonfiction. Tell me again, give me your thinking on why it couldn't be a novel. You know what? I think it's kind of an intuitive thing to me. It just didn't make any sense to me. Because what I always, I'm, you know, I'm a guy raised Irish Catholic in Pittsburgh, anti-Semitism, you know, that's the first thing I got with the communion wafer, you know. And what always fascinated me about the Six Day War? By the way, the Jews killed Christ. Exactly. Never forget that. Exactly. Yeah. So what always fascinated me about it, and you know, I was growing up in all the midi's conflicts and everything. It's like, wow, man, these guys are a lot of things, but they can fight, you know? These guys are like in the middle of nowhere, they're surrounded by everybody and they kick ass. And I always found that fascinating and to fictionalize it, just, it would have disappointed me as a reader. And guys who fought in the Six Day War still alive, and to write a novel about it, it's like, hey, guys, your story is not good enough. I've got to invent new things. And I think there are a lot of people like me who are close to Jewish people and they're like, wow, I really wish, I wish I got Israel. I really don't get them. Yeah. What's it about? Yeah. Who are these guys? Who are these sabras? You know, these ass kick and Israelis come over here and open up businesses. Right, right. So, um, steel are parking places. Right, exactly. And so, when you were like Six Day War, I'm like, that's it. That was the moment in time. For me, in my family, where it was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now, this is the truth thing. It's really serious, you know? Yeah. Um, they're, they're taking out everybody over there and they did it in six days. And wonder how that happened. So when you said that, I was like, it's got to be band of brothers. You know, okay, there's the great Michael Orren ball on the Six Day War, which is, you know, the seminal history, right? Right. But there isn't that on the ground. You smell the petrol, you know? Right, right, right. You can see just the devastation and the camaraderie. And I knew if there's one guy who's going to be able to do that, it would be you because that is, I mean, that's your, that's your sweet spot. You write combat action. Which I felt that, I felt that too. Yeah. Not being ego maniacal at all. Right. I felt that too. And the way what we're really talking about here is genre, right? Yes. I mean, I'm suggesting, well, let's try this genre and you're saying, no, no, no, no, it's got to be this genre. So writers go wrong a lot of times. They pick the wrong genre. They have an idea and they do it in the wrong way. So you were saying narrative nonfiction. In fact, I remember that you gave me black hawk down. Yes. As an example of what narrative nonfiction was, which I didn't even know what it was. So basically narrative nonfiction is, is like fiction only it's real people and they're doing what they really did. You're not taking those real people and tweaking right anything you're going to find out what they did. So that's how I remember the beginning and you did not jump on board as I recall immediately. No, that's true. And I remember you saying this is not going to work as a novel. You can't do it as a novel and you were absolutely emphatic about it. There was no doubt in your mind. And my resistance came up. Capital R resistance came up and I thought to my, I started kind of wetting my pants, you know, and I thought, maybe I should do this. I'm not going to get it right. How could I've never written narrative nonfiction? Can I do it? You know? I'm not a journalist. Right, what am I going to do without the crutch of being able to make up stories? You know, I want the plot to go this way so I just make it up. So but then I, but that was a great example of I think of a partnership, a creative partnership. And I forget how long I had to sit with that. Wasn't too long. A couple of months. Really? I remember it was like a couple of days, but anyway, anyway, I somehow realized that you were right. I didn't find out that I was a Jew till I was 12, but what happened was real Jews rejected. And then came 1967, the six day war. Wow, these are Jews I can relate to.