One of the key components of Rosie, like the biggest part of Rosie, I would say, is her ability to feel deeply. And instead of trying to change that or turn them off, I realized why not embrace it. Okay. So as soon as I started embracing it and not trying to dull it down or apologize for feeling deeply, that's what I started writing really honest songs. And then as soon as I started sharing those honest songs, that's when I realized that people started to really gravitate towards that. And then, you know, the longer I shared these songs more, I realized there's nothing to be apologetic for, because there's billions of us who feel deeply. Are we ready for another therapy session or what, fam? Can we do a round of applause? I love this. I love our space and I love the fact that I get to be with someone who is so unapologetically her. Rosie is here and I've got to say this is something that we kind of manifested this conversation. We are both kind of believers in when things happen, they happen at a time when they're meant to. We've had mutual friends for a little bit, matter of fact, recent episode with our girl, Chelsea Cutler, which is super cool, we're going to talk a little bit about your time with her. But I like to start the therapy session, not that it's like a heavy therapy session or thing, like a start with, it can be, but therapy is, it can be fun. But most importantly, I like to begin the conversation with just knowing how is the heart right now? Is it full? Is it three quarters of the way? Is it happy? What's going on in your heart right now, Rosie? What is going on in my heart right now? In this exact moment, overall, obviously, my heart is very grateful because I'm right here. But to be honest, as I always am, it's really up and down, it's really up and down depending on the day, whether it has to do with love or the world or anything else, myself, anything, really depends on the moment. I'm a deep feeler, so when I'm happy, I'm happy when I'm sad, I'm sad. To be, to be dialed into your emotions, to be dialed into your feelings, and to be a songwriter, a creator. What's the importance of being able to tap into that and know that about yourself in creating your art and your craft? It all starts with the feeling. I truly believe that it all starts with the feeling. For me, I can't speak for every artist, but personally, for so long, I always thought of my feelings as my biggest weakness, and it wasn't until I realized that it's my biggest superpower. Yeah, that I realized that about when in your journey, did you realize, were you able to make that shift? Yeah, was it something just recently, over the last year, was it something maybe when you were at the tender age of seven? When did you realize that it was your superpower? I mean, it's gradual. It wasn't like I woke up one day thinking, you know, today it all changes because I'm going to make feeling my superpower. It was an accumulation of time and self-work, working on myself and realizing that one of the key components of Rosie, like the biggest part of Rosie, I would say, is her ability to feel deeply. And instead of trying to change that or turn them off, I realized why not embrace it. Okay. So as soon as I started embracing it and not trying to dull it down or apologize for feeling deeply, that's when I started writing really honest songs. And then as soon as I started sharing those honest songs, that's when I realized that people started to really gravitate towards that, and then the longer I shared these songs more, I realized there's nothing to be apologetic for because there's billions of us who feel deeply. Yeah. I mean, here we are early, mere minutes into the conversation. And we've already found one of the most common threads throughout our therapy sessions, podcasts, talking to whoever it is, whether it be the iconic Mr. Kenneth Cole or other artists who we've had a chance to chat with. It's when you realize that you're writing or you're creating and you're being so authentic. That's where you find that true connection with whoever it is that you're trying to reach. So let's talk about the songwriter and how it feels to bring some of these stories to life and I want to start with, where do you go to create? Where do you go to write? Do you have a room? Are you an iPhone notes type of a woman? How does that start for you Rosie? Honestly? No, buy to me. Honestly, Maxwell. The creativity knows no boundaries. I wish I could tell you that I go and sit on my piano and that's where I write. I go to LA and I go into the studio and that's where it starts. That is ideally what happens, but realistically I dream about it. Realistically, I'm showering and I'm like, oh, can I cry? I was like, oh shit, I'm in shower and I get my creativity. Like I said, dream, sometimes I get it in dreams, sometimes I get it when I'm on the phone with my mom and I'm like, can I just hang up real quick and just, but notes up and voice my most. Are you back in up your phone please? I don't want you to lose the chance. I want to say that. I want to say that. When you have the opportunity to go there with your emotions and find stories in them and then take them to the piano or whatever other instrument. How powerful does it feel when we're talking about the idea of it being a superpower? How powerful does it feel to know that you're able to take these feelings and give them this platform to live? And then you've got fans who are connected to them and maybe taking their own feelings and attaching them to the songs and it could be a totally different meaning. Like how powerful is songwriting when it is coming from a genuine place? In my opinion and in my only my experience, it's the closest thing I've ever come to experiencing a high because I've actually never experienced that offer. Any type of substance and so it is what I imagine a high feels like. I mean I've experienced that high when I've gone, you know, cliff jumping or I used to go on cliff jumping. I just throw that out there. I used to be a really big daredevil and anything, an adrenaline junkie. So anything that would get me. I'm just saying those things are scary. More like traveling the world and hiking random things and rock climbing and anyway so that feeling I got really used to that feeling as an athlete and just like as an active human as an adrenaline junkie. And I remember the first time I wrote a song and I felt that same feeling and I wasn't physically moving. It was from something inside of me. That's what I call the fire. I call it the fire.