Respect the presidency, but I will not respect this president of the United States of America. Those words from Muslim activists Linda Sarsor from the woman's march on DC that was earlier this year. Miss Sarsor now finding herself back in the spotlight facing criticism over her latest remarks, calling for quote she had against the Trump White House. I hope that we when we stand up to those who oppress our communities that Allah accepts from us that as a form of dad that we are struggling against tyrants and rulers not only abroad in the Middle East or in the other side of the world, but here in these United States of America where you have fascist and white supremacists and Islamophobes raining in the White House. Sarsor as supporters maintain the word causing fierce backlash has been taken out of context and that her she's also been fighting back tweeting right wing tries to demonize my leadership editing videos is their favorite pastime here now Ben Shapiro is editor in chief of dailywire.com and Hassan Shibli is chief executive director of care florida a friend of Miss Sarsor's and was president when she made the comments so Hassan let me start with you tell me how it was taken out of context. Well she had means to struggle for good and she was very clear that at its our duty as Americans and as Muslims put forward our best effort and to struggle to speak truth to power to help the disenfranchised to stand for the oppress no matter what the cost is of speaking out and she's actually paying the price of speaking out and calling out the Trump administration's attacks on minorities attacks against women. Linda's revolutionary American Muslim proud hijab sporting activist and we stand whether we're proud of the tremendous work she's doing to stand with all this enfranchised minorities to make America great by standing for justice and speaking truth to power which is exactly what jihad is about. Okay so I first read about this on the dailywire um when you wrote about it Ben tell me why you think that uh it was not taken out of context when she calls for jihad against the White House. Well I mean it clearly wasn't taken out of context everybody I know who posted this story posted the entire video as well as a large portion of the transcript from what she said. Not only anybody is claiming that she openly called for violence against president Trump but jihad means more than just internal struggle or quote-unquote struggle for good. I mean we all know that there are terrorists all over the world to invoke the word jihad as justification for what they do and Linda Sarsor knows that too. I mean she knows how to make a headline she is a radical anti-Semite who has back terrorists in the past. She's a person who has who has said that I am her staring her. Don't smear woman who's not here to defend herself. You just don't like the American woman proudly standing for justice. Don't smear woman who's not here to defend herself. She's on you. Okay. I'll talk to. Fine. I'll talk to about Karen instead. Karen's an organization that was an undieted Coke and Spirited in the Holy Land. Right. She's the topic. I never indict it. Don't try to drown out the conversation. Let's talk about what you had means. You had me. Let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. Let's talk about the full conversation. Let's go ahead and ask what you're doing. Okay. But there's the one I want to ask you. The fact that you began this speech by praising a guy who has in the past talked about how jihad includes violent jihad she started her speech with that. So let's not pretend that you can just you're the one taking this one line out of context and then suggesting that it only refers to everybody just to listen to the speech for herself. So I listen to it and I have a question to you from that from a communication standpoint. So she wants to be an effective activist. Surely she is aware that when the general public hears the word jihad it's not necessarily about an internal struggle and standing up for people's rights. I mean we do that all the time in America like our country's actually built on that. So I'm curious why she doesn't think that she would get some backlash. If you're going to say those things you are going to get you know stir up a hornet's nest. Well that's why it's so important that she used that word because we must reclaim that word from the extremists that have misdefined it and misrepresented it. So Muslim extremists and anti-Muslim extremists have both hijacked and distorted jihad to mean something horrible to mean exactly what jihad does not mean actually and the only way we can reclaim our words and reclaim our language is by leaders proudly and unapologetically using it in the right context so we can show the world what jihad really means she had does not mean war. I think that that's why I think you're like whistling past the graveyard because like that's already the the reclamation then is too late for that. Of course it isn't too late. It isn't too late. It isn't too late. Okay if it isn't if it isn't too late then I'd like to hear care come out right now and condemn the Muslim Brotherhood. Why would we condemn the Muslim Brother? We don't condemn political organizations. Listen let's not again every single time you want to try to distort the conversation. Why don't you condemn the KKK? Why don't you condemn the Lord's Resistance Army? Every time when someone comes up you start condemning you start asking us to condemn condemn condemn Muslims are human beings we're brought Americans we stand for peace we stand for justice we condemn all people we condemn all people who engage in violence against human beings against civilians it take that for granted we are one humanity one people let's get to know each other let's not promote fear and hate of each other all right Hassan I'll give the last word to you Ben okay if you want to reclaim the word jihad you should start by condemning organizations that promote jihad all over the world instead of associating with them we praise you and talking about again you're misdefining jihad you haven't been standing for justice jihad means standing for justice it doesn't mean terrorism and we stand against all terrorists and all those engaged in violence that participate in it this is not hard we we have and we do just as everybody else does thank you and god bless you god bless america thank you Hassan and Ben should