If you love the beach, someone who goes to the beach, you'll want to know about this story. Whether you're from Delaware or anywhere, whatever state. Hi, this is Jeffrey Smith. Behind me are photos of a beautiful beach town, outside Washington DC, that is facing an issue early that most beach towns were shortly face. 5G telephone poles that will be installed on the beachfront areas. 5G microcell towers. 35 foot tall, like a picket fence at the beach. 5G is being deployed and it's right at the beachfront. It's nationwide and crucial fight about it's beachfront going on right now. It's going to happen to any beach town, given that the 5G is nationwide. And this problem will be faced by most beach towns. IG poles have been popping up around beaches over the past few weeks. Most of these poles have gone up along Dewey Beach's coastline just steps from the dunes. Many who live in the area and long time renters are calling them an unnecessary eye sore. Bell dot issued a statement saying the permits were given solely based on state regulations and policy regarding public utilities in Delaware. This is the town now facing an onslaught of 5G poles based on legislation passed by the state and it's right at the beachfront and it's a lot of telephone poles. Let's listen in here as the public and the council discuss this issue. Nobody in this town administration whether it be the volunteer commissioner or the employees want any of these poles. They understand we're going to get them but we don't want them and we're fighting hard to try to make sure we get the best we can but we are very limited. Basically we've been told you may not like it but you're going to get it and that's the end of the discussion. My comments just to be brief was that the map shared at the last meeting was great and it did set off a lot of interest but the poles were already up in a lot of the town. It was already a done deal so there wasn't much to say. But I recognize we may not have control that doesn't mean we shouldn't fight. When I walk by Clayton Street which I do every day and I see that pole at 12 o'clock I just think of this town and how we really need to care for the aesthetics of it. Not just fall over and and accepted Clayton Street at a 12 o'clock pole right in front of the ocean is it's mind-vogling to me really. People's minds are we are are we not going to have multiple poles at the end of the street in front of our beach entrances and it looks like a picket fence. That's the biggest worry I have. Joe can I ask you a question? Yes sir. Verizon puts up a 35 foot pole. Can you co-locate on the existing pole? No. Every single time we advance Verizon if they could co-locate including on an older pole that only had cable TV on it they said no it was impossible they couldn't do it. Although the law says they should co-locate if possible they say it's impossible every single time. There is great deal of objection from industry to co-location. Industry is saying it's not feasible. I am attempting to faithfully recount the industry's position. However industry doesn't regulate itself we regulate industry. We are limited in this realm we know that we also have a say. Well Tillson and I have been in discussions regarding what they're proposing to install and they weren't working in Wi-Fi to start off with. Tillson is qualified as a wireless communication company under the statue where they get their funds from is from leasing the poles. So they basically set up the pole and they go out and they provide they do not have a provider willing to locate when they're pulled. And in our travels around with companies talking about locations or them informing us basically what locations they were going to place pole. Every time we talked about an existing pole and or co-location on pole they had every reason in the book to say it doesn't work. We pretty much were at a loss to be confirmed or deny that. At one point I think both of us know what's the purpose of having this discussion with from here and correctly what it looks like we're going to have is three poles at the end of each street then right. I cannot see where the state could say no to them. We don't think any individual provider needs them at every beach entrance for instance. There's three carrier if they don't want to co-locate I don't know how a carrier can provide service to an area they don't have a transmitter. Temple Verizon is an asshole for all 22 beach ends of the street at this point. To answer your question Mr. Barrett there is a possibility that more than one carrier could request a pole beach end of the street that's correct. We might have two three four five providers it's hard to tell if this is a conclusion Mr. Bersinger reached is still correct that we don't know how many providers are going to be attempting install facilities in our town. And legal we have no recourse to push back on that. We have recourse but minimal. DelDod is in charge of approving these would they be interested in having a public meeting with our residents? I can certainly request it I see no reason why not. Right and I will be happy to extend an invitation. Jim if you will approach that subject with them. So recognize that municipalities such as Dewey Beach can within reason regulate the aesthetics but we cannot forbid the location of these facilities in the town. There are just as many questions remaining this is very new territory for every every town giving rise to a lot of consternation. Mr. Dede's in myself discuss this with Mr. Swarthkov speaker of the house and he said oh no they're supposed to co-locate. I said yeah but if that's if they can you say that's correct. I said but they keep telling us they cannot under the situation that they have here Dewey Beach. It's just unbelievable the reasons they cannot put it on existing polls or co-locate. Most lawsuits against the companies have been lost in court the companies have won. The companies know that they have us over a barrel on and a flood zone you have to get a building permit from the town. Our design standards really don't address whether you can put a poll up or not. We may end up in court on this. Are we going to be issuing permits or not? That could very well lead us into court. I want to ask you to be careful about how you phrase your questions. Everything that's been happening, Jim and I are very very frustrated over this. Tillson is an infrastructure company that's applying and getting approved to put in polls. We haven't heard from AT&T yet and we haven't heard from T-Mobile yet. It's going to be a problem and I'm worried very worried about it. I think they've got us clocked at every angle right now. So there you've seen it. You see some of the players if you care about beaches you'll want to contact and make the point clear. Crucial fight for the very character of the beach.