Hi guys, you are with Barry here and it's my pleasure to welcome three time Mayor of Cabrera Jorge Cavoli. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for coming to my house. It's a pleasure. It's a busy place and understandably with all the things you have to take care for Cabrera Jorge, I appreciate you taking the time from your busy schedule but you know how a handful of us including yourself are passionate about Cabrera and where it goes. I'd really love because not many of my subscribers know tell me a little bit about your past your families past and you know how this all came to be on the north coast. Well I'm the son of Anitalia immigrant that came here in the late 50s and he married to my mother which was the daughter of a farmer in the area. So you know they bought property here for farming basically which eventually turned to be a land that has potential tourism besides the farming potential they had. So we'll settle here in the area we like it here and we went to the capital to Santo Amingo to go to school to go to college and then came back here to to help this area you know. So you were changing and I have to say that at the time we decided to to come back here nobody was much willing to come because there wasn't much happening here you know. So one of the reasons why we decided to come back here after going to school and going to college is to help you know with the knowledge with the education we got you know to help this you know get going you know and that's one of the reasons I finally ended up in politics. How did you master English so well? I think most of my English at regular school you know like every kid does you know you go to school here and you get a basic basic lessons of English you know and I picked most of my English I picked it up as school and I used to travel every once in a while to the United States and I went once to a school an academy in New England but that was only for like 45 days you know. Okay. Yeah and I've been practicing with the foreigners here and you know. What was the actual moment that shifted your thought about wanting to become mayor? That's a big decision and it's a lot of responsibility. Yeah it's a very intense and demanding position you know but I thought that at some point the youth had to kick in you know. Normally the position of mayor was a run by older people you know. I think the youth of this country is acquiring a different view you know and I was part of that vision I think you know and that's why I decided to get involved in politics you know to make things happen you know that this is the only way you can actually kick in you know where decisions are taken and I wanted to help with you know the vision I acquired you know here and out of this country you know and I wanted to to get involved also because I wanted to to push that down towards the tourism model you know. Was there anything different about your reason for running for a third successful time versus your first time running for mayor? Was there a different motive? Was there a different did you learn from did you what inspired you know a third term I mean it's a lot of work. Once you get involved in this you know you have new projects you know and sometimes you don't have the time to finish those projects you know and I wanted to enforce the visions I had toward tourism you know and that takes time so it has been basically the same motivation you know to help the town to give a different vision to the town that had to a certain extent that had made Cabrera stand out from our neighborhoods you know and this is one of the most important reasons what I decided to participate in politics and to you know to keep going for several terms. Describe some of the key issues that Cabrera has currently faced in what term? In terms of how to position its growth properly so it doesn't fizzle over time like many destinations do about crime about where you seek to prove its economic future over the next five to ten years. I think we have some wrong challenges you know. Basic infrastructure, security and environment. Okay I think these aspects are linked to our economic development not only in the depending on the growth of tourism but we are a very strong area in farming you know. Absolutely. So I think we have to look in that direction. Basic infrastructure, security and environment and this is why I had had you know several meetings with the society here even with the foreigners to get support you know to claim from the government from the federal government these type of solutions that are not exclusively in our hands you know. With the federal government we have to work together with it for the solution of the basic you know infrastructure and services like power and water also security. In the environment part we have more responsibilities, more direct responsibilities and that we are working on it now you know and but I think we have to look in that direction. In other words you feel to retain Cabrera's you know sustainable growth it's not a boom that's sticky. Yeah okay and do you agree with me and I've only been here eight years I've known you seven and my family is very proud to call you a friend as well as a public official but what's the key to maintaining that steady growth like so many towns become boom towns and then fizzle. Yeah you know and I understand and I've lived in a few of them. I don't even know if you're aware it's we're going on 20 years in the DR. They eat in Cabrera but in total it's getting close to 20 for myself and I've seen without mentioning names so many towns that have boomed and then five eight years later they fizzle because they overbuilt. Yeah not only overbuilt I think we're amazing something in the country. I think we forget about basic aspects that are needed to have a sustainable growth not only in the tourism you know in general you know the society the town the people of the town we need to have basic infrastructure we need to have basic services we need to have a good environment and we need to have security okay if you don't have this if you don't improve these areas people are going to come here people are going to be fascinated by the by the natural beauties that we have in the area but at the end if we don't solve these problems if we don't improve the solution of these problems at some point people will get disappointed you know because if you want to run let's say you want to run a hotel okay let's say you have a house if you have to to provide yourself power water security this is not how the world works you know the city the federal government has to provide that to the citizens you know because it makes life so expensive here and so low quality you know that people at some point get tired of this you know and we have to that's why we're working on that you know we believe we have to in any situation in any city in any part of the world okay you need to have your basic conditions solved in order for the society you know and the tourism and and and you know to grow that's what I think until next time this is very NDR catch you on the other side why