I just love the sound of an electric guitar. The next simply focused, you know, the essence of it all for me. And as long as I feel that way, I'll carry on playing because if I just sat at home and did it, you know, it would seem to be a bit unfair. What's the slow hand as long as it's been a true to do? What have I come for? I don't know. I think it was coined by the manager of the band, the Arbor's name is George over Malskin. He kept calling me slow hand, I think it was a play on words to do with slow hand clapping. I don't know. I've never really got to the bottom. When did you realise that hang on? I'm pretty good at this. I don't think I ever did. I don't think I've ever until later on in my life accepted it as a gift, you know, because that's that takes a bit of retrospect, you know, to look back and realise that, you know, that it wasn't just a coincidency, you know, to be a guitar player. But at the time, I just wanted to do it because I liked the music. I liked that style. It was between the age of 16 and 17 to 2021 that I put all of my heart and learning into it. You know, that's, you know, I forgo, I for when everything else. I didn't go out and go drink in or anything. I mean, I just stayed at home and learned almost 24 hours a day from listening to records, but I was deadly serious about what I wanted to be. Well, publicised, that also can burst and the rest are. You just seem to smell the guy to kind of get hooked up on all that. When did you, when did you sort of learn the error of your ways and how hard was it to kind of get off on? Well, it takes some people a long time to learn the error their ways. I mean, for me, it was many, many years of experimenting with drugs and drink until they got the better of me, you know, unless I was actually losing my mind, which is what it got down to. I probably wouldn't have stopped. I probably would have drunk myself into the grave, but I think my greatest fear was of going insane and I got right on the edge of that, you know, right on the edge of losing my, my faculties completely. And I probably realised then that I had a gift, you know, going back to what you asked me earlier about whether or not I recognised my talent as a gift. And that's probably what I did and that's probably what saved me. How do you rate your claim now compared to the early days? You're paying better than ever? I hope so. Yeah, I hope so. It's hard to say exactly. I mean, there's a certain amount of fire that you're going to have to lose because of the years rolling by. I mean, when you're in your early 20s, there's a passion in your claim that you can never recapture. But a lot of that was also watered down by the amount of booze or drugs that I've got into later. And now I'm hoping that some of the clarity has come back into my work. I mean, I know what I'm doing now. Well, for a lot of years, I didn't. Is it still a practice? Not what I'm touring. No, not what I'm touring because my hands get very, I mean, when I play a two-hour show, my hands get very, my left hand especially gets very tired and sore on the fingertips. So I spend most of the day time just resting it.