I mean, if we ever achieve the ultimate dream of AI, which I call the Hollywood dream of AI, the kind of thing that we see in Hollywood movies, then we will have created machines that are conscious, potentially in the same way that human beings are. Basically, what it means if AGI succeeds, if we achieve with that grand dream, then we'll have machines that have the same intellectual capabilities that human beings do. And what I found about that so fascinating is that it means that human intelligence is in a fundamental way social intelligence. One of the steps along that path is the idea that we will be able to build machines which can put themselves in another's mind. Absolutely not. And actually, one of the fundamental problems is that consciousness itself in human beings is really not remotely understood.