First of all, nice to meet you in our Blues program and you were a couple of days now in Holland and did some gigs so far, so good. So far amazing. You were having a great time. We're having a really, really great time and the people here in Holland are so warm and the music scene is fantastic and we're really enjoying ourselves. We're happy to be here. We're thankful to be here. First of all, you're now your own leader of your own named group and before that you were guitars that Melissa Adavit, of course, the great late Jeff Healy. What's different as doing the second guitar in the band or the leading band? Well, I mean, those were all, those for me were like my education. The way that I look at it was, you know, I finished coming out of high school and I started playing with Jeff Healy. It was like going to university, university of Jeff Healy and then after playing with Jeff, had the great opportunity to play with Melissa and so that was like going from my, you know, my doctorate after my, you know, or whatever, revised versa, you know, it was like a, so another, another few years at school and then not graduated as time to do it for myself. A couple of years to fill up stage at a university? Hey, you know what, we're always learning. We're always students so that's a lifelong journey. You're taking not a guitar with the new yore rings. Oh, you know what, I don't know, maybe one day. Who knows? We'll see. My first of all year, you're inspiration for your own songs. They're heavily blues, they're a blues rock influenced and how do you come up first? Music or lyrics? You know, most of the time with the music and then I'll try and tell a story within the song. Sometimes the words will come first, but usually it's the music and the melody and then the words will, will, I'll try weave the words and afterwards. I have a wrote a song in your opinion that is musically great song but has still lyrics to work on or otherwise they say, oh, there was great lyrics and the music could, a slight have been better. Is it the work and progress your song? So otherwise, not a question. Well, I think, I think each one of them, the hardest thing is to like, it's like preparing a meal. You have to know when it's done. You know, you've got to know when to stop adding stuff to it. It's like, and there's kind of a process you have to go through where you could keep thinking that, oh, I could make it better or I could write a bridge here or I could write a second bridge. Oh, I could make the chorus better or I could do it at a certain point, you just have to let go. You just have to let go because you're going to write more songs, you're going to write another song. And that's what I'm trying to do is just create the best music that I can in the moment. Audience reactions. Is it that much important to you that you say, oh, the grace of the audience get a better rag and play or do it now? I just do my thing and audience have to enjoy it. Do you want to win them over? Well, I think like anybody you want to win them over. I mean, it's of course, it's nice to be accepted and be embraced and have a warm welcome. But I can't control what everybody else is going to think or feel. I just got to do the best. And if I'm honest, 100% honest in the moment, then that's my job. That's what I have to do is be 100% truthful and honest. Well, it would be hard to say it and just one or two sentences. But one of the things that was always so beautiful about Jeff is that he could go from sitting backstage before a show just kind of, just sort of there before the show and cool show time, walk on the stage and he would rip the whole place a new asshole. I mean, he would just tear it up and he always walked and carried a confidence about him. Not an arrogance, but a confidence. He was always in control and it was something I always admired and thought was really beautiful. And he just, you know, he always had this. He was in control. Soon as he started playing, it was like you knew it was on, game on. So you'd thought, there's a, let's the character I want to be in control. I think, you know what I mean, it's something I'm striving towards, you know, is to just do the best that I can, but be as confident as I can, you know. And I think as well, just being in the moment, being completely truthful and true. What does music mean to you? What does music mean to you? What does music mean to you? What does music mean to you? Music is the color in life. Music is the art is what makes us see these things. For me, that's what we see colors outside. Art is all of that. So you're going to paint tonight, those days. Well, yeah, I mean, we're going to play what we feel today. Every day is different. We don't ever play the same way. So tonight is going to be an extension of what we're feeling. I can see on your guitar that the sound must be pretty important to you because it looks aren't. Yeah, well, I'm very grateful to have this guitar. I love this guitar and she sounds great. Yeah, it's a sheet. What's it? Right there. There she is. What's the history? It's a 63 Stratocaster, 1963. And I got it about 10 years ago. And it's been my main guitar ever since. Love guitars at home? You know how special it was. Well, this is probably my favorite one. And this is my favorite one. I don't have a lot of people have like 50 hundred guitars. I have 10, maybe 10 ones that I play that I'm always inspired when I pick them up. You know, other ones, I do have other ones that I don't play. And there's no point in keeping them. I'm going to sell them. You know, I don't want to just have guitars to have guitars. You know, it's like you want to have things that you're inspired by. You know, and every time you pick it up, you're like, oh, you just want to play it all day. Yeah. I'm sure it's an interesting thought. And I think it's a good one. But a lot of guitarists want to have that special guitar that makes it special. And last question, Philip Sates in the hour and year and ten years. Do you have a roadmap for yourself in your mind or in your heart that's going to bring me as a musician? Well I think that I know that my plan, what I'm doing is creating music that will reach people and resonate within people. And as many people as possible. And hopefully inspire them to do things in their life that they love. It doesn't have to be, it could be music, it could be sports, it could be teaching, it could be cooking, it could be making things, whatever it is. You know, I hope that they feel the true love that goes into the music that we make, that it inspires them to do that in their life. And so to reach and touch as many people as possible in that way, put something good out there. Couldn't say much else any better. Thank you very much for this interview. Thank you. Thank you.