Okay, so yeah, I wanted to show you this array. This is my stamping department and I have all kinds of different sets of alphabet stamps. Some of them are as tiny as that and they go as big as this This is ones I made myself because they didn't sell them big enough for me. I wanted a really big voice so I use those and I cut out all kinds of shapes out of styrofoam To print with so there's one of my dogs. I love styrofoam. It's this stuff here Now that isn't cheap and cheerful. I don't know what is I Use that I love I love using Unprecious materials to work with Because it takes some of the preciousness out of art like so this is you know rolled this is packing stuff that comes in Certain things when you buy it. It's just a kind of cardboard with one half of the outside taken off it And it makes a fabulous printing surface because you know you can get really great Effects by using this so I use that sort of stuff. I used there's bubble wrap Really anything I can get my hands on that is There's a little maple leaf that was pressed into service an actual real one It's interesting because when you put enough paint on them they turn into light leather, you know like this is now practically a permanent Thing that will last into the next millennium. Yeah, oh, and I'm also sometimes I use Presses like when I'm working on paper on mat board, which has a little bit of a thickness to it These are letters that are punches so I can actually hammer the text into the paper and it you know it impresses itself in there That's kind of a need effect to Yes, it only works on paper. That's right because because Canvas Isn't thick enough to you know I suppose if you had enough paint on it or Plaster or some other medium that that was actually thick enough to impress into you could do that Okay, now it's all acrylic. I don't believe in Using a bunch of gimmicks for like you know how many mediums there are there's like 4,000 mediums and Gels and tents and I get overwhelmed. I just use paint and meet and I do use a medium to thin the paint a little bit But here's this is exactly what I did to get that all those ridges on this were done Yeah, they were done by putting the white paint on this thing and pressing this down here And then pulling it off and it actually sucked out the paint and that's what those ridges come from is pulling it away I just I just wanted to create something I don't know I love the texture, you know, I wanted to do something with this area um It inadvertently created something interesting over here because some of the lines went into the dark here So I've got this happening which is quite interesting whereas before I had a pristine line up there photo of mine a raven That I took Yeah, no, no, I cut it out. I don't really know about fancy transfers It's just collaged. This is just a collage as well of a photo of me as a girl So it's styrofoam, a thin layer of styrofoam and I glued onto mat board and then and then cut it out And then you can use it over and over again? Yeah, yeah because They're different every single time you print. That's what an that's what an original print is Each each one is an original print because they're all different you can't get them the same So I have a ton of things here that I have used before Some of which are quite can be quite elaborate Like this for example This is a very elaborate um, oh sorry. I think I just threw that at you um graphic of a girl and So I just put black paint on this thing and print it with it Cool, and so the black part is the highest part obviously of this yeah, yeah That's right. It's amazing You can do a lot of this is a very elaborate stamp, you know, that takes quite a bit of work Or you can just do something in a very very simple like that That's just a simple bird and I've scored into it with a pen or as you mentioned a blunt pencil get you the texture Oops, I'm just wrecking its feet and So the you know the actual drawing and design and making of the stamp happens only once and only one Yeah, and it's different every time you use it depending on what surface you're putting it on like this was pretty rough It was quite a bit of paint on here already. So it really affected what this print looked like And it and it will every time they'll be different every time Yeah Yeah, these are all stamps every single one of these images behind here are our styrofoam stamps really yeah I thought it was some kind of vintage fabric. I know that's what I wanted it to look like yeah, they're just um I can show you what some of them look like Here's two of them here. So this is the oak leaf looking thing. Okay, right? That's just styrofoam and there it is printed there There There And and this is another little leaf shape That got printed there Did you print it over top of that background color or have you put that back on? No, it's hard to say there's a lot on here. You can see all this paint. There was a lot of other stuff there um some of the It was pretty light colored when I put all these on it and then I have rubbed this other color and since then to To dump it back. Yeah, I didn't want it to be graphic I wanted it to be a fabric that she would live with it would be in her drapes or living room earth I use little tiny things to like nails. That's a nail head But it makes a beautiful beautiful little circle that I don't want to take the time to paint Right, you know, and it's not perfect. It's only part of it that shows But that's what I love about it. So you dip the nail No, I just brush. I know I just brush some paint on it. Yeah, I just brush some paint on it And then print with it and it makes a beautiful partial circle, but there's something perfect about it I love the perfection. I don't want to have to take the time to paint it But I get I get some perfection in the middle of kind of chaos, you know something like that I mean lids I paint I mean I use lids all the time to to Make circles. I don't know if there's anything in here right now But like here's an example of a scrap of styrofoam right here Oh wow, and it's a beautiful it's a beautiful shape perfect round, but I didn't want to draw it I cut this out. I actually made another circle somewhere down here. There's another circle And it was too big and so I shaved a part of it off and that's what this is But I just saw that there and thought this is beautiful Just right like that, but you see it wouldn't look nearly as good if it was all black No, see how fabulous it is because it's not And it also wouldn't look as good if you paint stakingly Taken a brush and tried to Oh, it would look studied and yes and rehearsed and anal and you know, yeah, it just Yeah So I love printmaking because it's so immediate and you can't paint that effect. I couldn't have painted it That's about as big as I work as three by four feet Yeah, and yeah, and I I mean I've made a total mess you have to make a mess you can't make art in a pristine room I'm always telling people especially women You have to make a mess you can't do it in a room where you're carpeted and you're trying to protect everything I mean I am trying to protect I have an oak floor under here um That I have trying to protect and I've got chloroplast on the wall here to try and mitigate some of the Mass that I'm making on the wall, but Ultimately you have to throw the paint around you can't be worried about it or you will hold it back Yeah, I'm making a mess. It's my house. So Guess I can It's like we're always having to give herself permission right? I'm continually moving the permission line because I'm always up against something some other way that I didn't think I could do something Or I didn't think I was allowed to do something Really, it's just continuously um Moving that line of what is allowed Moving it further out to give me a wider range Which is kind of where Your art and your feminism intersect I would imagine. Oh, yeah, that's a great way of looking at it Yeah, I think they do yeah I would say they do because my art even though my subject matter isn't necessarily feminist You know, it's pretty thinly veiled in some of it like the women I'm doing and even this um It's not political the political work is it is in my performance where I do all these I dress up. I I'm a scientist from the Ladies Institute for Endless rectification and I have a lab coat and everything with my with everything embroidered on it And I give PowerPoint presentations about etiquette And that's a feminist performance piece But it's not a it's not visual art, you know, it's performance. So But it's a lot of fun And I find my voice coming through really clearly and loudly in that as a feminist, you know That's my feminist work and the painting although it's in there. I it's in there You don't have to look very very far. I think to see that It's very much centered on women's experience. Yes