Stephen Jaffee, thank you for joining us on No More Fools Day. Thank you. It's good to be back. Yeah, it's good to see again. I asked you how you were doing in Greenroom and you just said tired. I imagine you are going through what you guys are campaigning and so tell everybody why you decided to run in general. Well, a lot of people know that those of us in San Francisco think we live in the greatest place in the world. And everything here we have the best. But there's one thing San Francisco lacks. And that is a voice in the US Congress. The incumbent in the US Congress in the 12th district is completely out of touch and disconnected with her constituents. And I'm running to give San Francisco the voice that it deserves and needs in the Congress. That's the short story. And I thank you that pretty much sums it up. I think not only is it San Francisco, but the person you're trying to replace is somebody that nationally we take issue with as progressives. So it's a big challenge. And you're out there hitting a road doing all sorts of stuff. I would go our normal route, but I wanted to just, you know, you've been dealing with some issues within the Democratic Party here. And if there's a lawsuit going on, can you just talk on that really bit? What's what's happening with that? Well, California has something which I think ought to be rid of, which is the state party. The only way to challenge that is for the challenger to collect 20% of the signatures of all the delegates in the district, which is relevant to the challenge. And I think that's the only way to get that. And then I was told after I turned in enough signatures that I had not turned in enough signatures because the state party said it was using a list with more delegates on it than the list that it had given me. In other words, they changed the rules after the game was over. Move the goal post. There's a lot of ways to say it. Sure. That's just a of the litigation is that they should not be able to do that. And that's that's the substance of the lawsuit. OK. OK. And so they're not playing friendly with you is what it comes down to. And it's come at a lot of expense and a lot of time lost. I'm guessing as you're running in this office, right? Expense for sure. Time. Yes, a little bit, but I feel that it's important for me and for other progressives not to just cave in when these kinds of tactics are used. There is a statewide policy and probably a national policy coming out of the DNC to keep incumbents in office and suppressed progressive challengers. That's the best way I could say it. Absolutely. So I'm one of those progressive challengers, my colleague down in LA Maria strata who's running to unseek the assembly speaker Anthony Rendon. She's got the same kind of lawsuit going not little different on the facts, but the same cheating kind of allegations. And I think it's important for progressives to stand up. So I mean, thank you for saying that because that seems to be a defining piece. I think between progressives and corporate Democrats is we've got one side resisting and not really moving anywhere on another side that's trying to push forward. We want change. It's time to shake things up, right? Yeah. And nobody, no incumbent is ever going to voluntarily give up a power they have. It's got to be taken. And that's what I intend to do. Absolutely. It's time to go on the offensive in that regard and I appreciate you doing that. You really have have been on that. We, you know, a lot of us in the progressive movement understand why Nancy Pelosi is foolish, but are there specific things that you want to change in San Francisco that are on top of your list? Well, there's a lot of issues that are peculiar to San Francisco and peculiar to local governments. But the ones that, but the ones that touch mostly on the possibility of federal remedies. I think our worst problem, our work two problems in San Francisco are homelessness and the cost of housing, which is just when I say it's through the roof, it doesn't even really begin to describe it. Right. And that's got to be addressed. And there are, and those two to use a new word that's involved these days, they intersect with each other. One of the major causes of homelessness is evictions and gentrification. And that's because corporate democrats, that's a standard to real estate developers and landlords. And I think that the one of the ways to stop that is to get the federal government involved and use whatever possible resources can be used. What I have in mind on homelessness is if I get elected and when I get elected, I'm going to immediately contact both FEMA and the Surgeon General and have FEMA declared a disaster area in San Francisco and have the Surgeon General or the CDC declare a health emergency. And move resources in here and try and take care of a problem, which the city either is unwilling or unable to do. Wow. That's like some immediate direct action. Are you sure you don't want to hold back and have a study and take a little, it's too soon for that. It's TV. Yeah. I appreciate the sarcasm. Thank you. Sorry. I just think it seems like, you know, in one of the most progressive states in the country, you would have seen progress faster in terms of the homelessness and inequality going on there. One would think so. One would think so. But it's getting worse. And San Francisco, the city has a quarter billion with a B dollar budget to deal with homelessness. And it just keeps getting worse. Yeah. It doesn't sound like there's solutions. And we know that I know having looked at the donation list for Pelosi that there's a lot of realists. There's a lot of reasons on there why it hasn't changed. You don't have to say that. Well, of course. And Pelosi, of course, talks about all the time how much money she raises for the party. And then she gets to say from whom she's getting it. Right. She's getting it from corporations, for-profit insurance companies, healthcare providers, real estate developers. And people who have a stake in having these problems we're discussing, not fixed. Exactly. Exactly. Thank you for running short of time. Tell everybody where you're going to be next. I know you're always on the road. Where can they meet you next to support you or hear more from you? Well, I'll tell you where I'm going to be next. I'm going to be hitting the streets of San Francisco. Sounds like an old TV show. Yes it does. I've been going, you know, I've been running for a year now. And I've been to a lost count of the meetings, the endorsement meetings. Right. I've been doing house parties and fundraising. But most of my time between now and the beginning of absentee voting, which is believe it or not, 32 days away. 32 days away, people will start voting absentee balance. I'm going to be on the streets talking to people, which I've been doing for a year, handing out my literature and knocking on doors. Wow. That's awesome. So where can they go to support you, Stephen? The website is jaffee for congress with the number four dot com. That's also the Facebook page. That's also the Twitter page. They all have donations on there. And if you're feeling particularly generous and impulsive, it's donate. Jaffee for congress.com. There you go. And I know you're active on Twitter and I think that's really you. Everybody, when you donate to Stephen, please share with hashtag no more fools and mention them and we'll get back with you with a thanks. So let's help Stephen because he's going against somebody who can raise gobs of money and then she takes that money and does nothing for you with it. She votes their donors. There you go. She's not voter constituents. Awesome. Stephen, jaffee, thank you so much for being with and joining us right now and continue the progressive fights there. Thank you for having me back on. I look forward to being back on again. Yes, I'm hoping you and I can do a town hall down there with some other progressives covering some general issues. Yeah, or a debate. I will say it right now, Nancy. If you're willing, we're here or anybody else you'd like to challenge through a debate call them out right now. Anybody who's right again. Nancy Pelosi has not debated an opponent since 1987. Here's your chance to practice Nancy. You're going to need it. You're going to need it. Correct. Thanks very much. Thanks, Stephen. Later.