Early this year, the Southern Baptist Convention or SPC, expelling South of Back Church for having women as pastors. South of Back Church is the largest church in the state and one of the largest in the nation. The founding pastor of the Church Rick Warren, appealing the decision at the Baptist Convention's annual two-day meeting in New Orleans, which started today. If you think every Baptist thinks like you, you're mistaken. South of Back Church was founded more than 40 years ago and has grown to have several campuses in California and around the world. Two years ago, Warren stirring controversy by ordaining three women as pastors. I'm not asking you to agree with my church. I am asking you to act like a Southern Baptist. If you've been paying attention, you've heard what's happening with the SPC and then there ultimate disfellowship of Rick Warren's Church, South of Back Church out of California. He is pleading to not be disfellowship and if you listen to his argument, there's something grossly wrong with his argument. The SPC has been a blend of at least a dozen different tribes of Baptist. If you think every Baptist thinks like you, you're mistaken. What we share in common is a mutual commitment to the inerrancy and the infallibility of God's Word and to the great commission of Jesus Christ. No one is asking any Southern Baptist to change their theology. I'm not asking you to agree with my church. I am asking you to act like a Southern Baptist who have historically agreed to disagree on dozens of doctrines in order to share a common mission. Since Southern Baptist have always allowed disagreement on doctrines of including the essential doctrines of salvation, why should this one issue cancel our fellowship? In 2013, when the Calvinist or under fire, Baptist agreed to disagree and the split was averted. Now, 10 years later, will we treat egalitarian Baptist with the same grace we showed the Calvinist? We should remove churches for all kinds of sexual sin, racial sin, financial sin, leadership sin, sins that harm the testimony of our convention. But the 1,928 churches with women on pastoral staff have not sinned. If doctrinal disagreements between Baptists are considered sin, we all get kicked out. You'll never get 100% of Baptists to agree 100% on 100% of doctrine. That's why our Constitution says that churches must closely identify, not completely identify with our confession. Now, the Baptist faith and message is 4,032 words. Saddleback disagrees with one word. That's 99.99999999999 in agreement. Isn't that close enough? What was conveniently missing from Rick Warren's statements are scriptures. The Bible is clear about a woman preaching. As a matter of fact, the Bible gives qualifications. So let's look at them again. He says that it is a trustworthy statement. If any man or a person, this case, it's a person, the word that is usually is a certain person. But we'll see how it's a male, as far as the office of overseer is a fine work that he does to do, that he desires to do. And overseer then must be above approach. The husband of one wife, the word is Andra, which is man, male, Andra of one wife or me ask, good night, good night, us, Andra. So this is a one woman man. He has to be a man. There is a piece of point and purpose of having qualifications if we're not going to go off of the qualifications. Now, Dr. Molar in his response is saying, if we've got the definition of a pastor, we're gonna go with that definition, that word, because it's the most easily understood, let's not nitpick and try to figure out how we can move in or kind of undercut what the word means. In Genesis 3.16, we see God meeting out punishment for the fall of mankind to Satan, to the devil, to man and to one. And look what he says to the one, and he says, I will greatly multiply your pain in childbirth and pain you will bring forth child children, yet your desires will be for your husband and he will rule over you. Well, he is setting up a hierarchy of leadership male to female. It should never be that the church would ever be a tool used to usurp what God has determined to be the role of women. Not that women can have a role in the church. That's not the point here. The point is though, the role they cannot have is as a pastor, as someone who teaches or has authority over men. Again, Paul says, first in the chapter two, verse 11, the woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. It's hard for people to understand that, to get a grasp of that with submissiveness entirely, but I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over men. I want you to look at this. I do not permit a woman to teach the woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man. She cannot teach a man, have that duty to teach over him, which is what a pastor does, or to exercise authority over men, which is what a pastor does. She does not qualify. Not that she's of a lesser importance, lesser value, lesser skill. No, what is happening though, you're gonna see this happen more and more, you're gonna see churches, different preachers, and so forth, leaning this way, the same way they're recording, leaning, and he's out the only one, and they're gonna do so, not because they find something in the scripture that they'll allow them to, as a matter of fact, quite the opposite. They're going to lean on their opinions, as he says, there's only, we only disagree with one word. If that word is important, if that word leads to something that goes against the scripture, then it's sin. And so to do so, to allow them to do so, to have them as pastors, would be a sin because it directly contradicts what the scriptures mandate. You're gonna see this more and more, it's gonna be someone's feeling, someone thinks that this, or they feel like that, the woman has the ability to, and they will not cite a scripture, or they would twist one and say that this woman here wasn't a apostle, she was, and it's not the case at all, but again, but now, at least Rick has it, he's not trying to twist a scripture, although he might, at some point in time in the future, but the fact of the matter is, there is no passage that gives him the right to do so. Forget his dispute with Al Molar, what he thinks Al Molar says, or should have said anything like that, what does God say? And so because they are dispelishing them, move them on, I can promise you this, that you are, SBC, you are getting addition by subtraction, you are not losing anything, you are gaining something, one with heaven, but also in the eyes of the people, because you seem like at least more so now today, that you seem more biblically concerned than you have before, because you seem more concerned with the scriptures than how things look.