Now, only in your careers, you've won many hearts. Yes. You have separately been in workplaces. Have you felt your mental health has been passing? Perhaps, Peter, first to you, if you've been in a situation in another life where you've been in a workplace and you knew that you were suffering, perhaps you didn't know how to handle it at the time. Yes, and I wasn't in that situation because I'm in during the 90s I did have bipolar disorder diagnosed and I took medication for it and suicide was one of those options that I contemplated. And until I reached a point of one day, I said, that's it, no more. And I took 100% responsibility. I didn't know how I was going to do it, but I started crawling out of that hole. What was the first step to taking that responsibility? As you said, that's it. I realized that it no matter how loving and beautiful people are around me, no one is going to care about my life or should care about my life more than I do. I need to take care of my life. I need to find out my answer. I'm a unique individual and what might work for you is not exactly about work for me. But what did work for you? For me, what I did was to go and research. I had people that felt great about life that I didn't do. That's what worked for me. Nelson Mandela. He seems to have it together. He was 27 years in prison. If I had been 27 years in prison, I don't think I would have lasted two. What did he do? How did he approach the world? What was he, his way of thinking? So I read a biography on Nelson Mandela. I tried to soak up his personality, his way of understanding the world. Gandhi was another one, going from trying to fit in with society to becoming a disruptor and through peace. Through peaceful means to get rid of an empire in India. That's a huge achievement. So how did he approach people? It was incredibly similar. Mandela's of the world and the Gandhi's of the world and the Bransons of the world or Mother Teresa's of the world. They have a way of operating in which they do not act as victim ever. That was the lesson for me. And to realize that there was a pity party going on in my brain. You two work closely together. Have you ever challenged Peter and said, stop feeling sorry for yourself? Absolutely. We keep each other accountable to that all the time. It has to happen. Absolutely. And I think it's helpful to have someone like that around you. Whether it's someone in the workplace, whether it's someone at home, a friend or family member. And I think you just got to discover yourself the effects of mental ill health and the workplace. I don't think I've ever, I mean we talk about where is that line where it crosses over into a mental health problem. Something that being diagnosable or not. I wouldn't say that across that line, but definitely, you know, our levels of mental wellbeing fluctuate. And there are definitely periods at work for one reason or another where I can remember, you know, having been more stressed. And usually it comes down to the dynamics of in amongst people socially. You had a HR boss. HR boss. Yeah, I have. That was not very HR issue. Yes, yeah. And well, I've had a number of different HR because that tends to be the area of a workplace where I gravitate to. And so I've worked with HR a lot. And I've had, you know, exactly what I was praised for in one from one manager was what was a problem with another manager. And, you know, the good thing is, I think because we adopt that philosophy of taking responsibility and taking that personal responsibility and not going into the victim's face that kind of allowed me to say, well, what are my options here? How am I going to deal with this? Can I manage up? Is there, and what can I change in this dynamic? How do I want to approach it? Or when is the time for me to move on to a new challenge and take on something new because this situation simply isn't working for me? And there can be very difficult decisions for people to make. Do I stay? Do I go? How do I, should I change me? Should I try and change them? How do I tease all of that out? But for me, that making a decision and moving forward was what was most important, not to stay stuck in... Okay, great. Yeah.