I believe Dogecoin is my top holding on there at the moment. Okay awesome, Dogecoin. Yes, why not? Yeah, right. It's funny. The price dropped, people are blaming Elon and he's thoughts on that. There are a lot of buyers and sellers out there, it's a global market and he does not control it. Okay. Bitcoin in my opinion is a cryptocurrency and several of the Bitcoin Maximus started attacking me. Some of those people are extremely small minded and to me they come off as insecure. Hey everyone, it's Rachel here at Bitcoin 2021 and I'm here at the very special guest today. Matti, he's the founder and CEO of Quantum Economics. Hey Matti. How are you? Hey I'm doing well, how are you? Good, good. In terms of the market, because this is your expertise, can we talk a little bit about that, the price of Bitcoin, maybe predictions, that what we can basically coming up? Yeah, I'm extremely bullish right now. I mean, just this conference is a great case in point. I mean, there's 50,000 people in the city for a conference that holds 10k. So there's obviously a massive interest and a massive movement happening behind the scenes. The fundamentals haven't changed. The Federal Reserve is still printing money like it's going out of style and a lot of that money is flowing into Bitcoin. Right. Do you have any advice for newbies in this space? I mean, I'm a toddler, I've been in this space for a while but we see these new people coming in that they may be freaking out now because Bitcoin was 60,000 above a month or so ago. A few weeks ago, now it's obviously down. So what's your advice to them? Yeah, the markets can be a bit random sometimes on the short term. Crypto assets in general are a very high risk investment and they can be quite volatile. So of course, the usual disclaimer is, please do not invest more than you can afford to lose. Other than that, you'll want to diversify yourself and get involved in as many different projects as you can. Right. I know a topic of conversation at this conference has been, will Bitcoin be banned? What are your thoughts on that? Do you think that's actually going to happen? Well, I do think, I have this itching feeling that Joe Biden and Janet Yellen are having some closed-door meetings right now, possibly in conjunction with the European Central Bank, that they might be cooking something up. And we saw the colonial pipeline hack and rather than blaming cybersecurity of the colonial pipeline, they're actually blaming crypto for this, which is insane, but it's not going to stop them necessarily. They're bureaucrats. They might do something to try and legislate. The thing is that they want to have anything that's lasting. They also need to get a majority in the Senate. And I do believe that there are strong lobbies within Congress on both sides of the aisle that would try to block such legislation. So in that case, I'm very happy, but we know that they can't ban Bitcoin. It's not possible. Right, yeah, I think that's a message we really need to get across. That's not possible. Yes. Are you able to talk a little bit about your portfolio? I mean, you've been in this space for years. So I'm sure people are curious to know about your thoughts. Yes. So I have a large portfolio very diversified both on behalf of myself and on private clients. The public portfolio that I'm holding is on itoro. So anybody can check it out. It's you go on itoro. And my name is Mati Greenspan. You can just see what I'm holding. I believe Dogecoin is my top holding on there at the moment. OK. Awesome. Dogecoin. Yes, why not? Yeah, right. It's funny. Yeah. Any thoughts on this whole Elon Musk situation that we woke up to on crypto Twitter today, the price drop, people are blaming Elon. Any thoughts on that? I don't think it has anything to do with Elon. Like I said, markets are very random, especially in this short term. I think Elon might enjoy taking a bit of the credit. But honestly, I mean, there are a lot of buyers and sellers out there. It's a global market and he does not control it. OK. And then we recently, point telegraph recently, wrote an article about your thoughts on what was it the shit coin? Was it, is that what it was called? The shit coin? Yeah, so I was at the shit coin conference yesterday, which was put together by Ken Bozak in 30 days as a response to the Bitcoin conference. OK. I made the silly mistake on crypto Twitter of referring to this conference as a crypto conference. And the inclusive language, because Bitcoin, in my opinion, is a cryptocurrency. And several of the Bitcoin maximists started attacking me and getting very personal, even some threats, because I use that term instead. I think that some of those people are extremely small-minded and to me they come off as insecure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it can be intense, but this space is also very open and inclusive. So I'm dealing with a lot of people. They don't own it, and they cannot stop any kind of innovation from happening. So let them, yeah, it doesn't bother me. Yeah.