You are. I am Tisha Stalk, which is Ganon's stepmother. You've been a part of the investigation since the very first time you were the last person to see him. Is that right? Correct. What did you see when you last saw? Well, I'm not allowed to talk about anything with the case. I would also be willing to talk about how the community needs to have faith and continue to work together and not make these false accusations like the things that have been said that I've disappeared from the community. I haven't been there to help, but there's lots of reasons behind that. Reasons like death threats, right? Right. Death threats are one of them. My family's getting lots of death threats. We counted over 20 some death threats already. To my husband's ex-wife is living in our home. And of course, I'm not coming home to do these things and to help with the family when I was kind of like told I couldn't. And then many other things that happened with the El Paso County Police Department, you know, and in doing the investigation, I was told I wasn't complying. And could I elaborate on that? Pleasure. Yes. So I asked for attorney during the interview. And I was denied that by them. I was held because they were blocking the door and I was told I couldn't leave. And if I would have touched them, they would have probably, you know, said, I still wasn't complying or said I was, you know, trying to run away or something. But during the interview, I asked several times, could I stop the interview? Could I get an attorney? Could I stop the interview? Could I get an attorney? I was denied. I was told I couldn't get nothing to drink. I couldn't go to the bathroom. I mean, it was continuously that my constitutional rights were violated. And that's why you say that they said then you weren't cooperating with the investigation. That's why they said I wasn't cooperating at that time. Correct. And why did you ask for an attorney at the time? Well, as for attorney at the time because there was one individual, there was two really good detectives. And so I'm not, you know, going to talk about about detectives. But detectives, they started to get when I would answer questions. They try to, you know, they're detectives. They're supposed to twist. The one-man goal is to find gain. But during that time, some of those things may be felt uncomfortable the way they were saying things. So I immediately stopped and felt like an attorney would help me with some of the vocabulary and things like that that I needed help with and understand some of the things that they were asking. I'm going to shift gears to what has become a huge online presence of people. Obviously trying to do the right thing, help find gain. But at the same time, sometimes it just feels like we're monitoring. Have you seen any of those comments yourself? We have. And see, that's one of the main things we haven't been around in the public eye because we did, I didn't want to expose my family to it if all these things were going on. You know, there was comments about gain again pushed off the hike and there was comments about this. And that's just not true. I took care of gain in for the last two years in our home because his mother didn't want to do it. And I would never, never, ever hurt this shout. And I know there's some questions out there about, okay, so tell me what happens. That's up to investigations when they end up letting you guys know, but I've cooperated with them. Even to the point that we were held with a gun and my daughter, a 17-year-old who serves our country and the United States Air Force who has never committed a crime or done anything wrong her life was put in handcuffs over the keys that was in her purse so they could take her car. And they weren't in there. They weren't even in her car. I mean, in her purse. And they were in my pocket. You originally didn't even know it was law enforcement. I didn't know it was a law enforcement officer because when he came out, I guess he was putting his jacket on and it wasn't necessarily his fault. He was adjusting and having to catch me. But I saw the gun and I panicked originally and kind of thought, oh gosh, I got the, who's this guy? And then once I realized it was the sheriff's office, I was totally okay, but they still had a gun and told me they were going to shoot me. But I was really concerned about my daughter asking why she was being detained in handcuffs and things like that when that shouldn't even happen for a child. That shouldn't happen for someone who was standing inside of a store shopping because we couldn't have any clothes because all of our clothes were here. But came here and got clothes, you know, we would be harassed. So she went to purchase some underwear and things like that and was putting the handcuffs in the store, you know, and then brought out with men with guns and there's that that's just not okay. You know, they could have approached me and said, hi, I'm Wade O'Patt. So, County, can I please get this instead of the way that it happened? I'm just going to check your shot and doing great. It's still going to record. I still can hear you okay. Okay, yeah, sounds like we're good. Everyone's small in my mind. I don't know. I want to make sure it's not going to happen here. Okay. I should try and clarify here. Not necessarily crime rates, but the way that people are reacting online to rumors about you with the surgery. Oh, oh yes. Wow. The rumors have gotten so bad. I pretty much have been told at least 10 different ways that these people have these conspiracy theories. I guess they watch a lot of law shows and maybe they have all these theories on how Ganon is dead. And that's what they're saying. So I'm like, why are you saying Ganon is dead? He is not dead. We are going to find Ganon. And that's the main goal that we all have. My family has just because you haven't seen us. We have that same goal. We've been out searching. My aunt has been out searching. My family has been out searching. We all have been doing that together so that we can protect each other. How does it feel when not only you have a lost child who you are in care of, but then people blaming you for that child nothing? You know, I'm just ready for Ganon to come home. Most importantly for him to see his family, but second, I am going to be so ecstatic when I'm able to say to people that I hope they have a really sincere apology for all these theories that have came out online. For all the things they said that I have done or people have done, and I just want everyone to know that we're going to find Ganon. And I love him so much. I've helped taking care of him for so long. Do you talk to me a little bit about him? I don't know him. Ganon is so kind and he loves to play video games. That's one of his favorite things. He loves Sonic and Mario and you know, he's always helpful. He was always so helpful with the dogs around the house and we have two little cute dogs and he was always like a person I could say, Ganon, can you go do this and he would do it right away? You know, sometimes with kids we have to remind them and things like that and that's okay, but he was so sweet and able to help anyone. He could notice when you're sick and say, are you okay and such a kind heart? I know you just said that you can't say anything about the investigation so you can just say so again if you can't answer this. But is there anything we can hear about the hike? Was there a hike? We don't just seem like rumors right now. You know what? Could we bring my daughter over here? Because she can go and say that, you know, she came home from work after the hike and she can verify that Ganon was at her home. Okay, yeah, that's fine with me. And she doesn't want you, that's okay, but you're a lot of asking. Is that an okay so far? Yes, I need Harley. I need Harley because they want you to verify I was getting at home after the hike because you didn't go to the hike but you came home from work. No, just answer the question, yes, you came home from work and you can verify Ganon was at home. I thought she didn't have to be too in depth because she is still, you know, a child but I want to make sure that someone knows that there's another person to verify that Ganon. Sure. Is she need to hold this? No. Yes, so I came home later that evening. I was at work and I can verify that she was there that night. So there was a hike that you guys went on but then you guys came home. Yes. Where'd you guys go hiking? Garden of the Gods. Okay. I guess we're... And then we ate Burger King afterwards. So, you know, there you go. Yeah. And then it just was I'm going to play at a friend's house. And then it was just I'm off to go to play at a friend's house. Unfortunately, I'm not able to like comment on that anymore and for that reason, this custom things have been turned and twisted and you know, that was one of those stories you were talking about where people say things. We had to hear things like who would let their child go out at dark and things like that. And that's just why I don't want to answer that. If I had to give... I'm not going to say that part. Nevermind. I could take that out. I understand that it gets tricky with a little stuff. Do you feel like I asked you what I need to? Do you feel like this is going to help kind of turn the tide of what feels like a witch on to my opinion? I hope is my own camera. You are still. Okay. I think that a lot of people can see that I'm not missing and see that I am being cooperative. And but to me, it's okay that they think those things because the way someone thinks about me, I don't have a problem with that. My main thing is I will never want someone to think that I would hurt Ganon or any of the children in our home because that's just not the case. I've seen my whole entire life working so hard in education. There was even things online that was talking about my education license and I shouldn't even be a teacher. And they just didn't know that. We moved on a military move and I didn't finish up my contract so I gave up my license in that state. It had nothing to do with any criminal activity or any of those things. It just got blown out of proportion to all my professional status. Do you feel like these are just internet detectives who think they know what they're doing? It definitely is. And you know, here's the thing that kind of saddens me. It's like if you're going to talk about someone like that and have a witch hunt out for them, why would you even care like about doing those things because this is a child. You're telling me that you're just as mean. You're just as hateful to talk about someone else like that. That's how I feel. Like we just should not, we should all come together and wait until the end and see what happens because Ganon's going to come home. Any message for Ganon? The message for Ganon I have is Ganon, when you get hair, you'll be able to truly tell what happened. And then I really hope I get a sincere apology from everyone who has made all those things, especially from my husband. We just wanted to add a message to Ganon from my family. Is that we love you and miss you? How have you come home soon? And Ganon, I can't wait you can come home and let everyone know that you're okay. We love you.