I've had some Frank Hive DMs talking about all you know all the games that he's played they won Doesn't make mistakes still plays defense The ladies not having any but I you know, I don't I don't know where he gets in this rotation Maybe if rivers continues this maybe that that's Frank's window, you know the dog's gonna eat and and so Maybe he gets that opportunity Yeah, man me. I see who's healthy and who's hitting shaft who's not and then we Make our decision from there really like he's been shooting well from three this year Grant is a short sample size. He's like 50 something percent from three But he just have to shoot more if he's able to shoot more and play defense. They'll be your role It'll be he'll be a kev you know, I'm saying Yeah, he just have he has to take the shot. That's what it is. I don't understand how much longer I'm supposed to give him like I don't understand why it's two different expectations And yes, I get it RJ comes from do comes one of the best programs in the country and people feel like he's had silver Spood and he's been bottle fed and volleyball live heard all the rhetoric got hurt all the narrative It's been four years for Frank four like how much longer are we supposed to wait for him to figure out where he fits in this team What is role is like you're either helping or you're not like either you're occupying a roster space and contributing or just Occupying a roster space. This is not about me being a frankator This is about me being a next fan who wants to start winning and if he's not going to contribute because there's a lot of other pieces That we're trying to figure out work if that work before him then we need to send him D.S.J. And whoever is not contributing to this team elsewhere and replace when somebody who can actually go ahead and contribute to this team It's not about being a hair. I'm just tired of waiting. It's like I would have broken up with this guy I'm sorry Can't get flooded Time to wait this next man oh This next man is five's going on in the chat right now jails. What do you have to say man? I all I have to say is this man. I absolutely Would you actually he's not contributing me sure I absolutely But he was contributing the little men as he was playing this season and he got injured unfortunately the guys like I feel like the people are saying that you know His his play is has been his biggest obstacle I feel like it's part of it back like his biggest obstacle has been his injury history and he's been injured It's injuries you're gonna be available You know what though that's the name of the game I can make badly embassable but also in football a lot of players whose careers were cut short or were they were traded and sent elsewhere because injuries We're just preventing them from contributing to it This is fall I'm not saying that it's this fall. He's injury prone. I'm just saying it's been four years like you have to go It's no longer like now we got it. It's no different than when having with justice wins I do feel like if given time to have a a 3nv role On this him or whatever to me lands him So here's this time thing again. How much more time do you want me to give him what would be good Should I wait six years? How much longer do you need me to wait let me wait it this long to get what we're at right now What's another week? What's another day? What's another few games man? What's another day? What's another day? What's another day? What's another day? You know what it is to like I've seen I feel like this team hasn't missing a guard a guy who can defend most of the positions for a lot of a long time And I feel like kind of have that in Frank because he's just not healthy But I feel like it be it's every does get healthy. He will have a role in the team And if I can ever you know saying dancing hot heels the same time I could be beyond say Mmm Basketball is not only talent. Yes talent is a huge part of it But availability to your team is a big part of the game and unfortunately We don't know what consistent talent or what consistent contributions we can get from Frank because he's never available So how much longer are you supposed to wait for somebody who's never available to show you what he can contribute when he can Contribute contribute to it consistently Yeah, I am not debating that the availability has been a problem That I understand that 100% But I don't want to get on this thing where he's like oh Frank is trash and he's a useless NBA player And that's why I feel like a lot of the conversation steers to like he's a useless guy And I don't think that's true at all. I feel like we played defense. I feel like when he first got here He was number one picking real guard in the NBA for a reason I feel like his free throws have always been on point I feel like his shooting has been trending up for years And it's just and it's just that he needs to be healthy and put it together and he might he might not put it together on this team Because of the circumstances because of the players here because of the chances are running out But I do feel like at some point he will put it together Okay, this won't be in New York That's fine. I don't know if I'm putting it together I want to hear I wish him the very best. I hope he gets healthy and I hope he gets it together And I hope you see him flourish But it's not going to be here because it's been too much time that has been given to him and in a Rebuilding era and when you're trying to win because the next one trying to win eventually I can't continue to wait for somebody who I can't rely on and that's the unfortunate part And that's what sucks about injuries in this league and in any league is that sometimes it does not go down to your talent Sometimes about how you contribute to a team and your talent kind of goes out the window when you can't utilize that talent Because you're never healthy and that's the suck part, but it's the reality It's been four years like I don't know how much longer we're supposed to give him that's just how I feel about it You know I guess you know it depends on you if you see this value or not I think that's what it was down to right if you see the value Then when this contract runs out you'll resign him for a cheaper deal to see where he at If you don't see the value go to another team they'll sign for a contract and he'll carve out a role for his team He'll be like a a Marcus smart who kind of plays multiple defenses shoot three and does we do it? If you don't see the value you don't see the value I can't make you see the value But I see the value and a guy who can play you can shoot the three play defense and and beat a multiple positional Player who can guard multiple positions and it also set people up on occasion when giving the chance All right, that's a bell. That's it Great debate. Love that energy. Who wanted to chat though you win is in the chat I was I was just sitting back people the chat was like, you know, see if you got the popcorn already Oh, I love that was great energy great debate even off of a win the passion of the next fans Let's go throw your winner in the chat who won that debate Listen, I mean my perspective short and sweet is I see both sides to it. I see both sides I see JL society where they could be value to to Frank if he's on if he's hitting his shots and he's defending well Yes, there is value in having a utility guy a cool guy a multi-positional defender if he's on also in fairness This is his you know, Fizzdale Miller Hornsack tips fourth coaching four years very hard to gain that stability at the same time Like Alan Han came on on this show. He agreed with Ashley. It's put up a shut up time Only the dogs will eat and as I got my training camp report coming into this I was told that the point guard situation right now they're gonna give D.S. shaded chance They're gonna give Peyton a chance Frank was not in that conversation for the point guard situation Because they don't know if he can play the role and they're not confident that they can play the role So part of it is on him. He has this put up and deliver And the most important thing is his availability and every single year he's hurt whether it's a growing injury whether it's a A paper cut now. It's a knee-spring that's kept kept him out for some time So if he's not gonna be here the potential is worthless You know what I'm saying and it's gonna be a next man up if Austin references on his game He's gonna play we already know Bullocks Uh spot in the in the rotation is gonna be solidified when OB steps his game up He's gonna be in what who knows what kept so I don't think Frank is gonna be guaranteed anything But I think the bottom line is he has to take