Okay, my name is Heather Yang, I work for volunteer Edinburgh and I have supported the group at North Edinburgh Arts for over a year I started last April and the Nitenata group at North Edinburgh Arts has been running and been using North Edinburgh Arts for about three to four years. It was just through one small conversation at a meal, two ladies said they liked knitting and from that we started a knitting group with the support of volunteer Edinburgh and it's just grown and grown and grown. Anybody can join us so it doesn't really matter but what also happens is once they join the group and the Nitenata group they then maybe get involved in another project in the area like the shed or which makes woodwork and does woodworking project or they get involved and we've got a relationship with the International Boot Festival so three of the group have been involved in that as well so from one group they're able to join other groups but the group welcomes anybody from anywhere. Last year we thought it would be a good initiative to offer some sense of power to the group by trying to sell their products on a regular basis and so I built up a relationship with Scottish Design Exchange and we were able to put the products for sale in their shop and the group teach each other how to knit and how to crochet as well so it's a big sharing experience as well as very supportive so I mean we make blankets we make hats we make scars we make baby jackets they're all really enjoyed and toys so it's lovely people can we can take commissions out products as well so if somebody said oh I'd like this jumper we can make that as well I also think that SDX is a wonderful wonderful experience and also a very good model of how people should be able to sell products in today's world and it's such a positive place to go if you want to go to buy a gift you can find something unusual you can find something that's made in Scotland and something that's just truly beautiful it's a very very nice atmosphere and environment and also there's a caring aspect to what we're selling and it's very easy and it's not a difficult process to go through and isn't extremely empowering for the ladies so it's about encouraging and developing people's lives