Well the violence has raised questions about how best to deal with writing and disorder on our streets and join now from Lincoln. We've just spoken to Patrick Mercer and now Joan Bydarkis Howe who is a writer and broadcaster and we can speak to him now and Marcus Dowell is in a co-order. Marcus Dowell, are you shocked by what you've seen there last night? No, not at all. I have been living in London for 50 years. There are so many different moods and moments. But what I was certain about listening to my grandson and my son is that something very very serious was going to take place in this country. Our political leaders had no idea. The police had no idea. If you looked at young blacks and young whites with a discerning eye and a careful hearing, they have been telling us and we would not listen that what is happening in this country to them. Mr Howe if I can just stop you Mr Howe for a moment. You're not shocked. Does this mean that you condone what happened in your community last night? I condone if I have got none. What I'm going to condone it for. What I am not, what I'm concerned about more than anything else. There is a young man called Mark Duggan. He has barrels. He has brothers. He has sisters and few yards away from him. Very lives. A police officer blew his head off. Well Mr Howe we have to. Let me finish. Mr Howe we have to wait for the official inquiry before we can say things like that. We don't know what happened to Mr Duggan. We are going to wait for the police report on it. If I can take you on a little bit, you will be talking about your grandson. You were talking about young people. You were talking about your grandson. You were talking about. I think that they have been stopping and searching young blacks for no reason at all. I have a grandson. He is an angel. He began to think he was coming at age when the police slapped him up against the wall and searched him. He thought he had no other bold stuff. I asked him the other day. Our purpose of a sense that something was going seriously wrong in this country. As a whole many times at the police search you, he said, Papa, I can't count. There are so many times. Mr Howe that may well have happened. And if you say it did, I am not to go and say you. But that is not an excuse to go out rioting and cause the sort of damage that we have been seeing over the last few days. Where were you in 1981 in Princeton? Mr Howe that I don't call it writing. I call it an insurrection of the masses of the people. It is happening in Syria. It is happening in Tlappon. It is happening in Liverpool. It is happening in Porte Spinn, Trinidad. And that is the nature of the historical moment. Mr Howe that there is. It takes you. Mr Howe if I can just ask you, you are not a stranger to riots yourself I understand. Are you? You have taken part in them yourself. I have never taken part in a single riot. I have been on demonstrations that ended up in a conflict and have some respect for an own West Indian Negro and suppocusing me on being a rioter. Because you want to get a busier. You just sound idiotic. How do you respect? How do you respect? How do you respect? How do you respect? Thank you very much for joining us from Croydon. Howe they are writer and broadcaster. There has been a huge knock on to lots of aspects of life in the capital including sport. Let's speak to Jill who joins us. And they are friendly tomorrow England and Holland. That is the biggest knock on effect because there is a huge question mark as to whether this game at Wembley could go ahead between England and the Netherlands. A meeting took place there this morning and the metropolitan police very much involved. And the decision has been taken to call that match off. Obviously a huge police presence is necessary at any of these big international sporting events particularly at a football match at Wembley. And so unfortunately that game has been called off as tomorrow night's match. There is a number of games been called off tonight. Charlton Redding, Crystal Palace, Croydon Town, West Ham, older shot. Thank you very much.