Recently, like I said, we had to also open an show on our interview and previews and interviews after that. He kind of came out against Patrick in a way that kind of questioned his leadership style and saying he was high maintenance, he was hard to deal with. I think Derek Harper was also interviewed about a week late and kind of said similar things like it was kind of hard to deal with Patrick because sometimes he would hug the ball and kind of freeze them out and put them in a difficult situation when they called. What was your experience like playing with, you know, a star? I was that caliber. Honestly, I did not have it. I had to learn to play with Patrick because I'm a post player too. I'm inside out guy. What is Patrick? He's inside guy, but I learned what I said, I got to tighten up on my shoot and some more. I would be in the gym shooting shoot, but when I got that opportunity to go in the pose, I did exactly what I was supposed to do, make baskets when I'm in the pose. Patrick is, this guy, I went to Patrick one time and said, hey man, probably is killing us, man. I mean, he's killing us, Patrick, man, you know me, man, I just practiced, man. And, you know, I just, I said, God damn it, Patrick, I'm doing what he's sitting too, but we just went two and a half hours in a shoot around speed. I was up to the game late. They were already dressed. I hurry up and get dressed. We playing, we're playing Saturday, Tony O'Sperfs, Sean L. had 32 on me after the game. Me and Pat Router get into it. And I looked at him and said, fuck it, I just played two games today. I said, we played one this morning and we played one this time. We went for two and a half hours and we got the crap. Me up. And I was like, Patrick, we can't do that. You can't run nobody that way for hours. I mean, I love Pat Router. He's a great guy. I pick up on the call and write it down. But the truth is, he's told, that's the truth. I called him and leave him a message, called me back within a couple hours, you know. But doing those times, I think he was trying to establish it, but he was weighing me in Patrick out because of our needs situation. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking, man. And you know, you heard all the stories with the Lakers and how they got hurt against Detroit. They had three starters out. The Pam Strang, Patrick John, some bars. God. I think word that was living in that series. So, you know, but when we got into playoff, he didn't do it as much. Well, he didn't do it at all because we just walked in a lot and walked through. But doing the regular season, man, I'm like, we doing this drill and I'm dead tired. Power. Classic. And so, I mean, Patrick, I don't think he was a hot maintenance guy. I think Derek Harper got a look at it as he came in the lead in 1983, I think. And now he's 10 years in. And a lot of time, us athletes, we can be 10 years in, but we still think we 22 and we're not. And, um, Oakland, the same thing. I mean, I think it's never been a great score. Right. Oh, oh, Mr. wide open layup. Let's just be sometimes he'd be wide open, Mr. Layup. I don't know what to say and I'm not trying to say nothing against either one because I really, I mean, I know Derek Harper, but we only, we only hung out maybe once or twice in my whole 12 years. And me and Oakland is kind of hung out a little bit. And so I'm not trying to throw you in the middle of the bus. I had a great year with Patrick. I had a great year with with with with with, um, uh, uh, uh, Jura Wilkinson and, and, and Mason and, and, and Oakland, all those guys and John stocks. I had a great time with all of them. I think Patrick was hot maintenance. Patrick, when you want to say go to war. That's you want to go to war with? Yeah. I don't care who it is. I don't care who it is. Um, uh, uh, Shaq. Uh, a keen, you know, keen got a estimate because Patrick needs were starting to fail him a little bit. Yeah. But I mean, Patrick has always dominated that series. They just go back to one one seven game series that he dominated, patch, but you go back and look at the numbers. You know, you didn't like he just dominating like he did Shaq that one year, you know. Uh, and it came in a great place. I see him. It's going to be two points and 25 miles on us. It's double overtime. So, um, he's a monster of a player. But Patrick is a, is a, is a true warrior. Yeah. It's interesting to get that, that balance perspective because we as fans, you know, we only see what's on TV, right? And growing up with this team, we've seen him leave his, his heart out there in the court. We had, we seen all the failures and everything and we were just as disappointed as those guys were. And the most part, we saw a guy that brought it every night. You know, we know the ice machine was stressed with the, you know, with the ice bags and stuff. He put it all out there. So it was kind of disappointing to hear the knocks on them, but it was interesting to hear your perspective as well. Yeah. And also, I think for, for O, I think I think because Patrick didn't probably come to his defense. Yeah. 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I mean, I don't see nothing to the, to the point to say, you know, like, you know, this, this about the mix organization, because they're ready to get it on. You're nothing when you get through playing everybody, you know, when you're playing basketball, you, you got to not let basketball use you, you got to use basketball. Yeah. So business at the end of the day. Yeah.