When you're under what'll take on you, you're caught some day when the world will take your 24s of baseball? Yeah, that's 24. How are you accepted? It was in any question moments, but I actually took over probably three or four weeks before and he's really struggling with his weight. I'd been working with him the whole way through so I saw a new opposition he was in and my thinking at the time was he can't afford to win these rounds big because he ain't got the guess tank for it for this fight because he's really struggling with his weight. And I know what he's like. So I remember he come back to the corner, but again, people are thinking 24-year-old probably doesn't know this, doesn't know that. He lost a round, but he come back to the corner. I purposely told him he won that round on purpose because I knew if I told him he lost it, he would have come out and worked so hard to win that round. So I purposely told him that he won the round just to keep him calm. And I already had in my mind, I know, Billy Joe, personally, before getting into his fight. And I thought, I know how to get what I need out of him. But it was about picking the right moment. And this guy that he was boxing was not the most, not experienced to that level. And I thought to myself, one, we kind of thought true, I tanked too early, but I know he's going to have his own doubts of doing the rounds at world championship level. So I thought around that mark, when that question starts to usually come in around round eight, rounds nine, that's when we need to push the pace him. Because I know what he'll start thinking, he'll start having doubts. Can I do the pace? I've got four, five, six rounds left in me. So I thought if we can save his energy and use round that seven, eight, nine to really push on, then those doubts going to creep in the other guy's mind and we can sort of control the pace from there on out and use that guys doubts against him. So it was about the importance with mostly round management. And also, you know, Billy Joe wasn't, he was seasoned, but you know, he's first offensive, he's well titled first fight, not working with Jimmy tips. And I thought, I don't want to completely change the way he used to being communicated to in the corner. But people would never think, oh, 24 years old, he's thinking about these things. Was there a question marks on your ability to get into that for afterwards? Because it wasn't afterwards. Yeah, because it wasn't a great performance from Billy Joe. But I think it was easily a, not because of the opponent, but because of the way he's done his weight. It was definitely a potential slip up. It could have gone a lot worse if he wasn't economical and efficient, but always had sort of confidence in my ability. Yeah. Why do you think Billy Joe performs better when he's underdog? It seems to pick, it seems to, I don't know all that when he's well, put it like this. If you used to do 100 meter race against someone that you know you can win at your own specific time of what you recorded when you know you can win that race quite comfortably, would not be the same if you felt, I don't know if I can beat this fellow in a race. I guarantee your time would be quicker against the guy that you felt, I'm not 100% sure I can win this race. I need to, do you see that a lot of boxes I feel all I get in for you for that even there's a lot of real slowdown? Even with sparring, I say this to Josh because they've got the big gloves in the head guard, there's just a lack of respect for sometimes he's just almost switches off as a case of, because it's not that respectful. When you get in there and I've got eight ounce gloves on, he's, I'm not giving this fellow a chance. So how do you, it's planted seeds in the unmeane to pick up the pierce? There's like any domain fucking in there, they can be with some things, but also think it's just a case of like what's actually happening doesn't change, how you feel doesn't change what's actually happening. He's so easy to go, if a boxer doesn't have a performance, good performance, to go, I was weight drained or, oh, didn't this, oh, it was this, oh, it was that, okay, all of what you're saying is great, but that's how you feel, what actually transpired and happened in the ring. So I don't really focus on how somebody feels, I focus on what's actually happening, you know? But I believe you're all my phenomenal feet, I believe in absolute animal, I've seen photos earlier yesterday, then he's the best shirt I've ever seen him. How does that make you feel to see that? Somebody you've knew your whole life then fighting the biggest fight in his life. And now he can win that fat. I believe so, I believe so, reason being because I believe everybody thinks he's underdog and it is a kind of guy who gets pissed off, I believe, to prove people wrong. I can't, and I hope he does, he's a showman, boxing needs that kind of guy, just zero fucks given, says how it is, I can clearly see where he's smelling your face, how you're for him, like how is that when you see fighters going for that, for the biggest fights in a life, how proud do you feel that you're part of that, John, your part of his story, to get him to that level as well? Yeah, of course, and I want to see him do it, and I worked a lot of him in most of his fights, really most of his title fights, and even for this fight he come down to GM and had a few days down a gym, we sort of went through this, what I think Canelo is going to do, this is what I think you need to do. And then we've done some film studies for him, sent it over to him, just to say, look, this is my opinion, you know, this is what I think, and I think this fight is going to boil down to who's better prepared, not physically, who's better prepared for the up, because the level of IQ in that boxing will be a joke, ridiculous, Canelo's IQ's ridiculous, and Biddy Joe's IQ's ridiculous. So I just think he's going to be a battle of who is more tactically aware, who understands what their opponents are trying to achieve by what they're doing.