Hi, my name's Les Thomas of Maximum Win and I'm the inventor of the Taylor Freedom Seat. What I'll go ahead and demonstrate is that I can sit on the stick. So put the first anchor on one side, that on the pole behind you. I've already validated this pole, put the other anchor on top of the first. Start to lean forward into the hiking stick. And then as you have tension in your straps, you can fan out the seat around your buttocks. And then once you feel comfortable, you can start to put your legs out and get a nice wide stance and rest comfortably. And rest comfortably.