Community Tools User Group/17-Feb-2011

Category:Community Tools User Group
12:58 	Torben Bailey  	Hi Rand
  	Rand  	Howdy everyone
  	draconis.neurocam  	Hello Rand
  	Irene Muni  	Hi rand
  	Adamburp Adamczyk  	aloha
  	Irene Muni  	Rand*
12:59 	Cummere Mayo  	hello rand....
  	  	hides the pitchforks
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  	Irene Muni  	Daniel and Bronson. cats toguether XD
  	Rand  	heh
  	Cummere Mayo  	meows?
  	Lisa Fossett  	waves collective hello to everyone
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  	Rand  	so our agenda is in the wiki https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group#Agenda
  	Amanda Linden  	hey all, looks like we can get started.
  	Cummere Mayo  	on second thought
  	Amanda Linden  	rand take it away!
  	Cummere Mayo  	why hide it
  	Rand  	ok
13:00 	  	So I want to fill everyone in on our plans for the SL Knowledge Base
  	  	As part of the launch of the new community platform....
  	  	we're moving the KB from the wiki to the new platform
  	  	Plenty of stuff will remain on the wiki
  	Amanda Linden  	you can read more here..btw. vogt's post yesterday.
13:01 	  	http://blogs.secondlife.com/community/features/blog/2011/02/16/a-new-community-platform-coming-march-2nd
  	Rand  	ah yes, thx amanda
  	  	If you like, I can go into more detail on our plans...
  	Irene Muni  	please :)
  	Rand  	re: the KB
  	Torben Bailey  	can you confirm if it´s Lithium?
  	Rand  	OK, so ...
13:02 	  	Amanda, do you want to field Torben's question
  	Cummere Mayo  	shudders at the idea of lithium
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  	Amanda Linden  	yeah, gimme a second.
  	Rand  	Anyway, re the KB...
  	  	Mos t of the articles currently in https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Knowledge_Base
  	  	will be moving
  	  	We're dealing with them in batches, tho.
  	Amanda Linden  	yes, it is on the lithium platform.
13:03 	Cummere Mayo  	oh god
  	  	so much for any semblance of privacy
  	Rand  	So, initially we're moving the most popular articles
  	Amanda Linden  	cummere, let's hear the rest of what rand has to say...
  	Torben Bailey  	Ignore my feet and have a seat Blondin
  	Rand  	and, as time goes on, we will migrate the restof the articles
  	Lord of Dee  	Why are you moving the KB? It hasn't long been moved.
13:04 	Irene Muni  	questions now or at the end?
  	Rand  	Lord - the idea is to integrate it with the rest of the community tools
  	  	forums, answers, etc.
  	  	Lithium provides good ways to promote threads from (e.g.) forums to KB
13:05 	  	SOME information will remain on wiki...
  	Cummere Mayo  	><
  	Amanda Linden  	irene, let's give rand the floor and save questions for the end.
  	Lord of Dee  	Thanks Rand so we should improved consistency
  	Irene Muni  	Great Amanda :)
  	Rand  	Official policy and product information that is not appropriate for community contributions; these articles are kept in the “Linden Lab Official” namespace on the wiki.
Content for the Viewer 2 help system, including the comprehensive glossary.
LSL documentation, including language and function references
Other developer documentation such as that for APIs, advanced content creation, and the like.
Information on open source projects, including Project Snowstorm.
Second Life Viewer Release Notes and Server Release Notes.
  	Amanda Linden  	(thanks irene)
  	Rand  	(sorry for the big chat text)
  	  	:-)
  	Jeremy Linden  	Blondin, do you want me to find you a chair?
13:06 	Rand  	In an nutshell, KB info thatis relevant for most users will go to the new community platform
  	Adamburp Adamczyk  	i gav blondin a seat
  	Rand  	"Official" policy & pricing info plus dev. info will stay on wiki
  	Nathan Adored  	wow, buzy place this time
  	Rand  	So, with the move of the KB, the need for the Flagged Revisions extension goes away....
13:07 	Torben Bailey  	*YAY*
  	Rand  	and thus we are planning on removing it.
  	  	hehe
  	  	It has been somewhat problematic, true...
  	Irene Muni  	yes LOL
  	Rand  	That's basically all I have at this point...
13:08 	Irene Muni  	Is there any plan about the translation of LL Official documents and KB documents?
  	Qie  	So... I hope Lithium is convenient to migrate data *from*, as well... for the next time we go through this exercise.
  	Rand  	Once we launch we will have more to discuss...
  	  	Irene: yes...
  	Cummere Mayo  	lithium is known for being privacy invasive and for massive tracking...
  	Irene Muni  	GREAT!!!
  	  	lol
  	Rand  	We are going to migrate some translated content initially
  	Cummere Mayo  	what will be done to mitigate that?
  	Amanda Linden  	one of the big benefits is an integrated system--integrated search.
  	Rand  	and we want to re-engage the community translation project on the new platform
  	Irene Muni  	God hears you Rand! XD
  	Rand  	:-)
13:09 	Amanda Linden  	and the ability to transfer other pieces of content generated in forums or sl answers and bring them over to kb articles.
  	  	:)
  	MarcelEdward DutchX 	ah the search is gonna be fixed ?
  	Torben Bailey  	many localized articles are somewhat outdated
  	Amanda Linden  	search in lithium is a dream.
  	Irene Muni  	I'm not sure if I can speak about the new platform, I signed the NDA LOL But it's true, search is great
  	Rand  	Qie - that is a good point,but I can't speak to it at this point.
  	Torben Bailey  	would it make sense to try and update the outdated articles before the migration?
  	Rand  	Yes, federated search is a big win
13:10 	  	Torben, we do have that on our radar....
  	Cummere Mayo  	I repeat my question about privacy and user tracking
  	Maggie Darwin  	I hadn't heard that search had suddenly become a difficult problem. Then I remebered I'm in SL.
  	Rand  	cummere - i can't speak to that
  	Amanda Linden  	well, we don't really have search at all in jive.
  	Irene Muni  	LOL
  	Rand  	i can raise the privacy concerns with our tech lead on teh project
  	Maggie Darwin  	Exactly.
13:11 	Cummere Mayo  	youre implementing a privacy invasive platform and you cannot speak to how youre going to inform / mitigate the issues?
  	Amanda Linden  	cummere, at this point, we cannot discuss this point.
  	Cummere Mayo  	...
  	Rand  	no, not me personally, because i am just working on the doc part of it
  	  	(ie. the knowledge base)
  	Fine Caliber  	meditates.
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  	Rand  	ican speak to the people who DO know, tho...
  	Amanda Linden  	ask us about this at a later date when we have the right people here.
  	Cummere Mayo  	can you please bring someone that can?
  	  	preferably before implementation
  	Adamburp Adamczyk  	agrees
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13:12 	Amanda Linden  	yes, we can. we'll add this to oru to do list for next time.
  	Rand  	i believe we can
  	Maggie Darwin  	"Lithium Technologies provides Social CRM solutions for the enterprise. "....that Lithium?
  	Amanda Linden  	other questions?
  	  	yes.
  	Cummere Mayo  	yes maggie
  	  	aka the platrom best buy got sued for using recently
  	Maggie Darwin  	Joy. Buzzword nirvana.
13:13 	Irene Muni  	Do yoyu know if the format for SL Ansers tested remains in the definitive platform?
  	Amanda Linden  	it's a very strong piece of technology.
  	Irene Muni  	Answers*
  	Amanda Linden  	sl answers is integrated into the new platform.
  	Maggie Darwin  	"On May 11, 2010, Lithium acquired social media monitoring (SMM) provider, Scout Labs, whose service allows brands to engage with their customers beyond the community and monitor, map, and measure customer conversations on the social web.[8]"
  	Irene Muni  	Yes Amanda, but the testers had many comoplaints about the format :)
  	Rand  	Yes, i dont believe the implementation has changed substantially since the preview test
  	Cummere Mayo  	which is what best buy got sued over
  	Irene Muni  	ARRHHHG!!! :(
  	Cummere Mayo  	and what freaks me the hell out
  	Fine Caliber  	[8]?
  	Maggie Darwin  	"the platform incorporates elaborate rating systems for contributors, with ranks, badges, and “kudos counts.”[4]"
  	Fine Caliber  	oh it's copy paste from wiki.
13:14 	Amanda Linden  	actually, a lot of the things that came through the private testers were implemented and/or will be at a later date.
  	  	some not.
  	Torben Bailey  	Can you tell us something about Contribution-Based Roles?
  	Amanda Linden  	that's something that lexie could speak to, but she's not here.
  	  	sorry.
  	Cummere Mayo  	alughs at the idea LL used private testers
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  	Amanda Linden  	more on that next week.
  	Irene Muni  	Well, we wait, but in our opinion it's not a good format for SL Answers, but thanks for answer :)
  	Rand  	I can give you a high-level overview...
  	  	but Lexie knows much more
13:15 	Cummere Mayo  	amanda with all due respect using fanbois and fangirls is not a legitmate test group
  	Rand  	basically, as you particpate more in the community you gain rights to do more on the platform
  	Adamburp Adamczyk  	would like answer ref last week;s question over who is g-team nowadays
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  	Rand  	eg. after you spend so much time and respond to so many threads, you get the ability to edit KB articles, etc.
13:16 	Maggie Darwin  	Sounds ripe for gaming and drama. But that would never happen here. :-)
  	Amanda Linden  	cumit gives credit and new capabilities to folks who move up the contribution ranks.
  	Rand  	basically, if you are an active participant, you get granted more capabilities..
  	Irene Muni  	We will change this: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-1498 for Kudos and Ranks XD
  	Amanda Linden  	part of what it gives you is the ability to give kudos to content that is valuable/helpful.
  	MarcelEdward DutchX 	click
13:17 	Torben Bailey  	that does sound helpful
  	  	giving kudos that is
  	Amanda Linden  	yes, it's very good. great content gets elevated naturally.
  	Irene Muni  	That sounds to me as NOCommunity, Ranks??? Just my opinion :)
13:18 	Qie  	Is there any negative kudo / anit-karma? else... the more controversial a poster, the better.
  	Amanda Linden  	we will have moderators in teh system 7 days a week dealing with flagged content.
  	Torben Bailey  	will the be localized sections still?
  	Amanda Linden  	the moderation that oyu'll find in lithium--and on our side--will be much better.
  	  	yes, localized. for sure.
13:19 	Qie  	(okay, yeah, active moderation should help)
  	Irene Muni  	Active and intelligent moderation :)
  	Rand  	Torben: there will be localized sections in KB and Answers
13:20 	Torben Bailey  	I thought more about the forums part because the german forums now are a pain to read
  	Irene Muni  	WOW, I can die happy, localidez sections in KB :)
  	Torben Bailey  	hehe Irene :)
13:21 	Irene Muni  	:)
  	Rand  	Irene - yes, though at this point the UI won't be localized, but we will provide a place for (e.g.) German content
  	Amanda Linden  	:)
  	Rand  	...just to set expectations...
  	Maggie Darwin  	"My hovercraft is full of eels."
  	Rand  	lol
  	Torben Bailey  	o.O
  	Irene Muni  	:)
  	Jeremy Linden  	That sounds like an SL Answers question.
  	Torben Bailey  	no localized UI?
13:22 	Rand  	Not initially, no
  	Torben Bailey  	...
  	Irene Muni  	What about the actual content in forums? I know that content remains but will be "closed threads"?
13:23 	  	Lag or silent? LOL
  	  	Silent XD
  	Adamburp Adamczyk  	tempted to yell "onigokko"
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  	Qie  	oh, yeah, that reminds me: the *old* old forums content... will be preserved, I presume?
  	Maggie Darwin  	"It's too hard to implement achievements in SL directly, but we can buy it off the shelf to crowdsource the docs."
  	Amanda Linden  	qie--yes. it will be available and searchable in archives.
  	Rand  	Irene: I cant answer your question, but I can find out
  	Irene Muni  	Thanks :)
  	Qie  	cool. thanks. :)
13:24 	Irene Muni  	No Kudos for Rand XD
  	Cummere Mayo  	Rand, my understanding is each post, question, answer, comment will have a tweet this and share this widget... will there be a way to opt out of having those?
  	Adamburp Adamczyk  	wil Rod be joining any of thee meetings/?
  	Maggie Darwin  	"Was this answer helpful? yes[] no[]"
  	Irene Muni  	LOL
  	Rand  	Cummere - you can just not click on them, but i believe they are always displayed.
  	Irene Muni  	Great question Cummere
13:25 	Nathan Adored  	gets a goofy, lopsided smile.
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  	Amanda Linden  	rod will not be joining these meetings. sorry.
  	Rand  	Also, if you are just looking, you don't have to log in if you dont want to
  	  	...but of course, you then cant post...
  	Cummere Mayo  	in that case i should let you know that yould be violating CA law in not allowing posters to opt out
  	Torben Bailey  	Who´s Rod?
  	  	(kidding)
  	Amanda Linden  	cummere, we are not going to discuss this beyond what we've already shared.
  	Cummere Mayo  	so please change that
  	Amanda Linden  	torben--ha
13:26 	Fine Caliber  	I think the opt out is just not ever logging in.
  	Amanda Linden  	so, on the agenda someone asked for a content creators email list.
  	Jill Yedmore  	and it works.
  	Amanda Linden  	good question.
  	Talarus Luan  	Will anyone be deprived of any functionality if they DON'T use any other social media?
  	Amanda Linden  	(if we're ready to move on)
  	  	ah, good question talarus--nope.
  	Rand  	Talarus -no, afaik
  	  	yes lets move on
  	Cummere Mayo  	talarus, yes because we wouldnt be able to ask questions or engage in dialogue
13:27 	Talarus Luan  	O.o
  	Amanda Linden  	content creator email...
  	Lord of Dee  	There's already a scripting list
  	Amanda Linden  	we are in the process of looking at creating a content creator user group and that would include an email list...most likely.
  	Torben Bailey  	now that Lexie is here...
  	Irene Muni  	Lexie, don't fly please LOL
  	Talarus Luan  	She can fly if she wants to. <.<
  	Amanda Linden  	so, stay tuned on that. we just need to determine which linden will lead....
  	Irene Muni  	Lexie is OVER all the Residents XD
  	Amanda Linden  	so, it's on my list.
13:28 	  	lexie, there were some questions re: roles/ranks.
  	Lexie  	Hi
  	Adamburp Adamczyk  	did lexie get the answer for me as promised last week about who g-tem are these days? ie do they still exist?
  	Irene Muni  	Lexie is the CENHTER of the residents LOL
  	Torben Bailey  	ellow
  	Irene Muni  	CENTER*
  	Adamburp Adamczyk  	g-team*
  	Lexie  	Adam yes, I did
  	Adamburp Adamczyk  	thank you LExie :)
  	draconis.neurocam  	Can I ask why some of the user groups don't show up on the google calender?
  	Irene Muni  	For example this group :)
13:29 	Lexie  	Governance is still handled by Lindens. That is not something scouts do Adam
  	Amanda Linden  	it should be there--on the main user group page?
  	draconis.neurocam  	yes
  	Amanda Linden  	i can take a look at that.
  	draconis.neurocam  	its not, along with some others
  	Adamburp Adamczyk  	thank you Lexie, that is reassuring
  	Rand  	draconis - it's possible that the leads haven't added them, or there is some glitch
  	Amanda Linden  	probably just an oversight on my part. thanks!
  	Lexie  	welcome ㋡
  	Amanda Linden  	will make sure it's there after this meet
  	Irene Muni  	No Kudos for Amanda XD
  	Cummere Mayo  	this group is on the usergroup page
  	Lexie  	hehe Irene
  	Cummere Mayo  	communitiy tools
13:30 	Amanda Linden  	yes, but draconis is saying it's not on the gcal below.
  	Irene Muni  	But not in Google Calendar Cummere
  	Amanda Linden  	i can look at that....
  	  	oops on my part. :)
  	  	will add it
  	Talarus Luan  	Any word on if/when we will be getting a Land user group to replace Jack's office hour?
  	Maggie Darwin  	URL for the GCal please somebody?
  	Lexie  	We had questions on ranks/roles?
  	Amanda Linden  	http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:User_Groups
  	Rand  	Gcal is embedded in https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:User_Groups
13:31 	Torben Bailey  	Rand jumped in for you and did well
  	Maggie Darwin  	Thnax
  	Lexie  	awesome
  	Torben Bailey  	there´s just some concerns about gambling the system
  	  	like people asking stupid questions and answering on an alt
  	  	to promote themself
13:32 	Maggie Darwin  	I feel like such a tool.
  	Lexie  	There is a formula in place that means participation is required in more than one way. It will be a lot of work to "game" the system ㋡
  	Maggie Darwin  	"Gaming the system" yes
  	Talarus Luan  	Oh, so the new system is going to have the silly rewards thing like Jive does?
13:33 	Lexie  	And If gaming ths sytem happens, we will see it..Im sure you will help by reporting it, and we will adjust the formula if needed ㋡
  	Amanda Linden  	(fyi--just put our meeting on the gcal.)
  	Lexie  	Rewards?
  	Lord of Dee  	What sort of roles are you enisaging?
  	Irene Muni  	Increasing Rank for Amanda
  	Talarus Luan  	Yeah, the points system or whatever it is.
  	Rand  	Thx amanda - it *was* on there before, not sure what happened..
  	Lord of Dee  	envisaging even
  	Maggie Darwin  	Talarus: read the Wikipedia article on "Lithium Technologies"
  	draconis.neurocam  	(yay but amanda what of the others not listed there, will the people running them have to add it?)
  	Talarus Luan  	I'm on their website directly atm.
13:34 	Rand  	draconis - we will make sure the others are added after this mtg
  	draconis.neurocam  	ah alright
  	Amanda Linden  	i can add for them. i
  	Maggie Darwin  	Oh, Lithum question: Is this hosted on LL servers? Or did y'all buy the SaaS dealio?
  	Rand  	thx for letting us know...
  	Amanda Linden  	it's easy
  	Lexie  	Talarus ranks and roles are permissions to do more in the system. I think it makes sense for those with more experience in SL to be able to do more that helps other Residents.
  	Irene Muni  	I disagree with Ranks, but that is a lost battle :(
13:35 	Torben Bailey  	will it be like visible ranks? or will it be like in JIRA?
  	  	I´d prefer the JIRA way
  	Talarus Luan  	Oh? Like?
  	Lord of Dee  	After seeing what happened on the Jira a few days ago, this needs to be done carefully
  	Rand  	i believe they are visible, right lexie?
  	Lexie  	Stay tuned.. you will see more soon!
  	  	Yes, they are
  	Irene Muni  	If it's implemented a EASY way for KB translations. I can die happy :)
  	Talarus Luan  	I've been heavy into SL scripting mentoring/support for almost 5 years. What does that net me in the "new" system? Or do I have to "prove" that effort all over again?
13:36 	Torben Bailey  	yeah, would be nice to edit localized articles without poking Lindens
  	Rand  	Irene, I think we will be starting a localization UG soon, so you should come to that...
  	Irene Muni  	Applause XD
  	Amanda Linden  	talarus--we're looking at this item now.
  	Rand  	Noelle can address your questions there....
  	Amanda Linden  	will have definitive answer on that next week.
13:37 	Lexie  	yes, we will ㋡
  	Rand  	(nb. its not started up yet)
  	Torben Bailey  	yay Noelle is back?
  	Amanda Linden  	yep!
  	  	just got back.
  	Irene Muni  	Lexie, the format for SL Answers is the same that in the tested Jive? (please, say "no" XD)
  	Maggie Darwin  	"Oh, Lithum question: Is this hosted on LL servers? Or did y'all buy the SaaS dealio?"
  	Torben Bailey  	will we get to see baby pictures in the first UG session?`
  	Amanda Linden  	maggie--we can't answer that one.
  	  	sorry
13:38 	Talarus Luan  	Well, we'll find out eventually. :P
  	Lexie  	Irene, testers feedback was included in many changes we have made.
  	Maggie Darwin  	Sorry, must have missed first response.
  	Rand  	Torben :-) ... maybe!
  	Amanda Linden  	np--was good question. :)
  	Maggie Darwin  	Important security question. Interesting there's no answer.
  	Irene Muni  	LO, great answer, lexie :) Thanks in any case :)
  	Lexie  	hehe
  	Amanda Linden  	irene--that testing period was very valuable.
  	Torben Bailey  	(she could get a prim baby for privacy reasons)
13:39 	Amanda Linden  	they def made changes based on your collective input
  	Cummere Mayo  	lexie U have a question...
  	  	*I
  	Rand  	Torben - lol
  	Irene Muni  	I know Amanda, I have not complaints about LL in the tested period :)
  	Amanda Linden  	:)
13:40 	Cummere Mayo  	how do you prevent people from making and answering thier own questions using various alts to gain powers? and how about those of us that owrk primarily in jira and wiki? will we not get pwoers because we work in other areas? if so thts kind of a punishment
  	Irene Muni  	Is there people answering with Alts for points????
13:41 	Torben Bailey  	yes!
  	Irene Muni  	Are there*, sorry my English
  	Amanda Linden  	hopefully, taht stuff will come out when folks flag it for moderation.
  	Cummere Mayo  	yes lots
  	Amanda Linden  	we'll be on the look out--closely watching
  	Rand  	They are speculating that some people will do that to "game" the system and achieve a higher rank
  	Nathan Adored  	oh boy, sockpuppets.
  	Irene Muni  	In Sl Answers Cummere??
  	Lexie  	Cummere, as mentioned there is a formula in place that will help address gaming. Wiki and Jira are not in the formula, nor were they for our current system.
  	Cummere Mayo  	well it happens on jive all the time already
  	Amanda Linden  	yes, rand. some people will.
  	  	we will be monitoring more closely for that activity
13:42 	Rand  	I can't speak to the other areas, but in the KB, a Linden will have to ultimately approve the publishing of any content
  	Irene Muni  	It's logical Rand.
  	  	Normal.
  	Rand  	so, in that respect, as long as the info they provide is accurate it does no harm (re the KB at least)
  	Cummere Mayo  	right, but can those who do allot of jira work, such as ella, jonathan, and others please be given some extra permissions because if they do take the time to contribute somethign it should likely not need lots of red tape to get it done
  	Lexie  	I understand your concerns on gaming. We will keep an eye out for potential issues and make changes as needed.
13:43 	Cummere Mayo  	ty
  	Irene Muni  	Easy solution: no ranks nor points!! :)
  	Lord of Dee  	Good solution Irene!
  	Lexie  	haha Irene :p
  	Amanda Linden  	the:)
  	Cummere Mayo  	I like that solution irene
  	Irene Muni  	Vote https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-1498
  	  	Lexie, not "hehe", it's true :)
13:44 	Cummere Mayo  	honestly those that give good answers will be noticed by someone anyways
  	Lexie  	hehe was for your passion on it. *hugs*
  	Irene Muni  	LOL
  	Cummere Mayo  	you shouldnt need popularity points or even a good gteam record
  	Irene Muni  	Kisses from Spain :)
  	Lexie  	㋡
  	Irene Muni  	Agree Cummere
  	Amanda Linden  	ok, any other questions for lexie?
13:45 	Lexie  	I think once you see the system, you will understand it better.
  	Lord of Dee  	Is the structure changing?
  	Maggie Darwin  	I'm seeing plenty at lithium.com.
  	Talarus Luan  	How big a test group was there? 10? 100? 1000?
  	Amanda Linden  	yes, much more organized.
  	Cummere Mayo  	lexie can i get with you directly next week please?
  	Maggie Darwin  	I guess you have to pass the bill to see what's in it.
  	Amanda Linden  	we took a good look at the information architecture.
13:46 	Lord of Dee  	any forums disappearing and can it handle the commerce forums?
  	Amanda Linden  	and the system is flexible enough to move things around--create areas, etc.
  	Maggie Darwin  	Gotta go.
  	Amanda Linden  	there are new ones, some going, but for the most part--same forums, just reorganized.
  	Lord of Dee  	That was a selling point of Jive Amanda :p
  	Amanda Linden  	yeah, but this is for real.
  	Lexie  	㋡
  	Irene Muni  	yes, question for Lexie,. is it Mr Humble an attractive man? LOL
  	Lexie  	lol of course he is!
13:47 	  	㋡
  	Amanda Linden  	yep, he is.
  	Lord of Dee  	He supports the right football team, that's all that matters
  	Amanda Linden  	and he's super nice.
  	Irene Muni  	I have no problem in partner with Mr Humble, can you say his please?
  	Amanda Linden  	and crazy smart
  	Lexie  	hehe
  	  	I think you have to ask him yourself Irene!
  	Amanda Linden  	ok, last 10 mins.
  	Irene Muni  	Well, I will try LOL
13:48 	Amanda Linden  	think that we covered the last item re: moderation.
  	  	any other items that folks want to raise in our last 10 ins?
  	  	mins
  	Lord of Dee  	Who are the moderators? Residents? Lindens? Scouts? Mixture?
  	Cummere Mayo  	wait we covered jira moderation?
  	Talarus Luan  	Any word on if/when we will be getting a Land user group to replace Jack's office hour?
  	Cummere Mayo  	didnt see it
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  	Amanda Linden  	we don't have much jira moderation right now.
  	Irene Muni  	Can be helpful a box for suggestions to future meetings?
  	Amanda Linden  	but we will in lithium.
  	  	they will be moderator lindens.
13:49 	Nathan Adored  	and what happens if someone's posts get removed when they shouldn't have been?
  	Cummere Mayo  	right but jira wont be there right?
  	Amanda Linden  	no. jira will stay in jira.
  	Lexie  	Jira is not moderated in the way we are discussing moderation right now.
  	Rand  	Irene - if you have a relevant item to add to the agenda, you can add it to https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group
  	Nathan Adored  	"What happens in Jira, stays in Jira"? :D
  	Amanda Linden  	we will be very careful about what's deleted.
  	Cummere Mayo  	theres not really a good usergroup for jira stuff, can you please pass on the request to flag stuff?
  	Irene Muni  	(thanks, sorry for interruption, my mystake)
  	Amanda Linden  	jira is covered in this usergroup.
  	Cummere Mayo  	*to be able to flag stuff
13:50 	Amanda Linden  	but, the jira person isn't here today.
  	Cummere Mayo  	which contact would that be?
  	Amanda Linden  	if you have input into jira, you can email me directly.
  	Torben Bailey  	where´s Sue when we want to POKE!!!! her?
  	Lord of Dee  	Can you remove delete comment rights from non Lindens on the Jira?
  	Amanda Linden  	ha!
  	  	sue is the best person for these jira questions.
  	  	maybe we can have her come in too.
13:51 	  	next time
  	Cummere Mayo  	ty
  	  	but i will probably jsut talk to her at the server group. she shows up there allot
  	Amanda Linden  	good idea
  	Irene Muni  	The new JIRAwatched XD
  	  	and NoVoted :(
13:52 	Amanda Linden  	any other items?
  	Talarus Luan  	Any word on if/when we will be getting a Land user group to replace Jack's office hour?
  	Amanda Linden  	has this been helpful? interesting?
  	Lord of Dee  	Any word on a land group?
  	Amanda Linden  	ah, no word yet.
  	Rand  	fyi, folks i will be out on vacation next week, so i will see you again in 2 weeks
  	Amanda Linden  	it's raised to the right folks. we are determining what we want to do here...
13:53 	  	and what linden would lead. jack's role hasn' tbeen replaced.
  	Torben Bailey  	have a great vacation :)
  	Irene Muni  	Vacation? You are a Linden!!!
  	Amanda Linden  	so we're in a holding pattern for a bit.
  	Rand  	thx Torben!
  	Lord of Dee  	Any new groups you can give Blondin?
  	Talarus Luan  	k
  	Amanda Linden  	good quesiton tho--it's on my list.
  	Lord of Dee  	I like to see him kepty busy
  	Amanda Linden  	like blondin needs more to do? :)
  	Lexie  	lol
  	Rand  	Irene: lol....
  	Blondin  	ha
  	Cummere Mayo  	meh running bay city, zhindra, and events isnt enough
  	  	:)
13:54 	Amanda Linden  	:)
  	Blondin  	and that only the stuff you see :)
  	Amanda Linden  	yeah, he's plenty busy
  	Lord of Dee  	Is there still a group for community groups like chilbo?
  	Cummere Mayo  	give him marketplace and jira, and um... the rest of mainland
  	Lexie  	slips more work onto Blondins desk ㋡
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  	Talarus Luan  	Hmm.. <.<
  	Amanda Linden  	lord--not right now.
  	Irene Muni  	Great idea Cummere
  	  	:)
  	Amanda Linden  	but, we're looking at some of that right now.
  	  	blondin--think you ahve a fan club.
13:55 	  	:)
  	Blondin  	<---blushes
  	Irene Muni  	Blondin NEEDS a explicit fan club :)
  	  	As Lexie :)
  	Jeremy Linden  	Woo! Blondin!
  	Amanda Linden  	i
  	  	ll sign up for the blondin fan club.
  	Talarus Luan  	I'll give him a club, alright. :P
  	Amanda Linden  	:)
13:56 	Irene Muni  	fan club rating Adult, of course LOL
  	Amanda Linden  	ok, items for next week?
  	  	jira moderation
  	  	what else?
  	Irene Muni  	next wekk? or two wekks?
  	Amanda Linden  	well, i'll be here---
  	Cummere Mayo  	meh sorry i already run ex-linden Joppas fan club and cgs fan club
  	Amanda Linden  	and lexie too.
  	Lord of Dee  	Answers to the questions you weren't allowed to comment on this week
  	Cummere Mayo  	lol
  	Irene Muni  	oh undertood, sorry
  	Cummere Mayo  	no room for blondins
  	Rand  	sorry, the UG will meet as usual next week, i just wont be here :-)
  	Amanda Linden  	and blondin will be here too.
  	Lord of Dee  	woot
  	Irene Muni  	Bondin, who is Blondin?
13:57 	Amanda Linden  	ok, so---jira, we'll invite sue.
  	  	what else?
  	Cummere Mayo  	Lexie before you go can you check your im please?
  	Blondin  	thanks all!
  	Jeremy Linden  	points at Blondin.
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  	Rand  	Thanks everybody!!
  	Amanda Linden  	kk, bye all.
  	  	rand, can you grab the transcript?
  	Lord of Dee  	Can we see screenshots of the new setup?
  	Talarus Luan  	ciao
  	Torben Bailey  	bye bye
  	Rand  	amanda - yes will do
  	Amanda Linden  	not yet lord.
  	Irene Muni  	Greetings and kisses from Sopaind (and paella)!!
  	Lexie  	Bye for now! Have a great week/weekend ㋡
  	Torben Bailey  	have a great rest of the week all
  	Irene Muni  	Spain* LOL
  	Amanda Linden  	feels so weird saying not yet, lrod.
  	Rand  	adiios!
  	Amanda Linden  	lord
  	  	:)
13:58 	  	love to spain!
  	Lord of Dee  	Ok cheers guys
  	Jill Yedmore  	bye!
  	Irene Muni  	Great Amanda, kudos for you!