Community Translation User Group/28-Apr-2011

== Summary ==
* Articles of the KB that were localized and the ones that need localization.
* New member in the group for Chinese.
* About send notecard to Noelle for remain in the group.
* We need help in French and Portuguese.
* Possible new board in the KB for other languages. While waiting, we use the wiki. And we use the wiki for translations of noy suggested English articles.
* Waiting a solution from Lithium to the HTML bug.
* KB migration: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/KB_Migration_-_Second_Batch
* No news about if we can have access to the Doc jira.
* The labels translation needs review.
==Attendees List==
*gefeit Dufaux (gefeit.dufaux)
*ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler)
*Noelle Linden (noelle.linden)
*oobscure (opensource.obscure)
*Rand (rand.linden)
*Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh)
*Torben (torben.trautman)
*Youri Ashton (youri.ashton)
==Transcript for Thursday April 28, 2011==
[12:04]	Noelle Linden 	hello!
[12:04]	ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) 	hi ã‹¡
[12:04]	Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh) 	Bonsoir noelle
[12:04]	Noelle Linden 	bonsoir !
[12:05]	Noelle Linden 	how are you?
[12:05]	Noelle Linden 	small crowd tonight :-)
[12:05]	ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) 	It is spring - weather is great ^^
[12:05]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	they are still recovering from the bunny hunt
[12:05]	Noelle Linden 	ah ah
[12:05]	Noelle Linden 	did you have a good Easter?
[12:05]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	yes :)
[12:05]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	it was like summer :)
[12:05]	Noelle Linden 	not too much chocolate?
[12:06]	Noelle Linden 	It's summer like in France I know
[12:06]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	hehe, can it ever be too much?
[12:06]	Noelle Linden 	very warm and dry
[12:07]	Noelle Linden 	I was wondering if we could go to the KB / Lithium page on the wiki
[12:07]	Noelle Linden 	let me give you the link
[12:07]	Noelle Linden 	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Platform_KB_Translation_Project
[12:08]	Noelle Linden 	I'd like to go over articles that were localized and the ones that need localization
[12:08]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	ok
[12:09]	Noelle Linden 	currently, in Spanish, 4 articles were published in Lithium
[12:09]	Noelle Linden 	http://secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php
[12:09]	Noelle Linden 	http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Release-notes/ta-p/743443
[12:10]	Noelle Linden 	How to contact customer support
[12:10]	Noelle Linden 	and
[12:10]	Noelle Linden 	Community Standards
[12:10]	Noelle Linden 	Guidelines, sorry
[12:11]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	hi gefeit
[12:11]	Noelle Linden 	there is another one in English that is ready for you to grab
[12:11]	Noelle Linden 	http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/How-to-report-a-bug-or-request-a-feature/ta-p/733545
[12:11]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	I think nobody from spain is here?
[12:11]	ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) 	hi Youri ã‹¡
[12:11]	Noelle Linden 	and About the Second Life Knowledge Base
[12:11]	Noelle Linden 	and
[12:11]	Noelle Linden 	Usernames
[12:11]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	hi Youri :)
[12:12]	Youri Ashton 	hello, sorry for being late, had a few RL things to do
[12:12]	Noelle Linden 	hi :-)
[12:12]	gefeit Dufaux 	hi all
[12:12]	Noelle Linden 	Hi Gefeit!
[12:12]	Noelle Linden 	welcome
[12:12]	gefeit Dufaux 	thank you ^^
[12:12]	Noelle Linden 	Gefeit is new to this group
[12:12]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	welcome :)
[12:12]	Noelle Linden 	and his language is Chinese
[12:12]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	WOOOHOOO!!!!
[12:12]	Youri Ashton 	welcome in the group gefeit! ^_^
[12:13]	Noelle Linden 	there is no one from Spain today
[12:13]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	æ¬¢è¿Ž
[12:13]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	(powered by google)
[12:13]	Noelle Linden 	it's very late for you Gefeit!
[12:13]	Youri Ashton 	noelle, i know i didnt bother with a notecard to stay in, but i think you know that even though i do it all alone and not really happy and all, i still keep doing it
[12:13]	Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh) 	hi gefeit :-)
[12:14]	Noelle Linden 	hi Youri, glad to know :-)
[12:14]	gefeit Dufaux 	hi
[12:14]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	do we need to send a notecard if we attend meetings?
[12:14]	Noelle Linden 	Gefeit will be working on the viewer
[12:14]	Youri Ashton 	in the coming weeks i will be very busy with my friends wedding though, so not much time left for sl :(
[12:14]	Noelle Linden 	into traditional Chinese
[12:15]	Noelle Linden 	no problem Youri
[12:15]	Youri Ashton 	no torben, about staying in the group and working on translations or not :)
[12:15]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	thatÂ´s what I mean
[12:15]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	I didnÂ´t send a notecard because I figured that participation counts
[12:15]	Noelle Linden 	this is fine Torben, I know you
[12:15]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	k :)
[12:15]	Noelle Linden 	are here every week
[12:15]	Noelle Linden 	:-)
[12:16]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	welcome back Identity
[12:16]	Youri Ashton 	/me noms iccecream
[12:17]	Noelle Linden 	so anyway, it seems that for KB articles there is some work for you to do, at least in the 4 main languages
[12:17]	Youri Ashton 	hey rand
[12:17]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	hi Rand
[12:17]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Howdy!
[12:17]	Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh) 	hi rand
[12:17]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	Noelle, this one is ready to publish: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Deutsche-Knowledge-Base/Einen-Fehler-melden-oder-neue-Funktionen-vorschlagen/ta-p/813385/
[12:17]	Noelle Linden 	We definitely need some help in French and Portuguese
[12:18]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	and this one needs to be republished because the labels were missing: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Deutsche-Knowledge-Base/Den-Kunden-Support-kontaktieren/ta-p/809287/
[12:18]	Noelle Linden 	thank you Torben, this is great
[12:18]	Noelle Linden 	thanks!
[12:18]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	and we need help in german!
[12:19]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	Youri, if you learn german, I learn dutch
[12:19]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	then we can help each other :)
[12:19]	Noelle Linden 	Torben, did you see the e-mail I sent you?
[12:19]	ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) 	My German is very poor :(
[12:19]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	yes, I sent you a reply
[12:19]	Noelle Linden 	h haven't seen it yet
[12:19]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	youÂ´ll like it
[12:19]	Noelle Linden 	sounds good, thank you!
[12:19]	Noelle Linden 	;-)
[12:20]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	I sent it as private message on the community platform
[12:20]	Noelle Linden 	Rand, we had a question about adding Polish KB articles in Lithium
[12:20]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	Rand, is there any news on the html war front?
[12:21]	Rand (rand.linden) 	So I have a
[12:21]	Noelle Linden 	from Identity
[12:21]	Rand (rand.linden) 	oops
[12:21]	Rand (rand.linden) 	heh
[12:21]	Rand (rand.linden) 	so, to add a new lang to the KB would require a sepaerate 'board' in Lithium terminology
[12:21]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Just like we have the German KB, French KB, etc, we would have to add a Polish KB
[12:22]	Rand (rand.linden) 	But we are in the same position with Italian, Japanese, etc.
[12:22]	Noelle Linden 	yes, we will have to add Japanese soon
[12:22]	Youri Ashton 	nothing for the dutch translations yet?
[12:22]	Noelle Linden 	how long does it take?
[12:22]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Noelle, I suggest we put together a plan and present to Raymond, et. al. re new KBs
[12:22]	ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) 	And Polish Forum
[12:22]	ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) 	if it is possible
[12:23]	Rand (rand.linden) 	I'm not really sure... I don't *think* it's that much work
[12:23]	Noelle Linden 	I guess we can talk about that offline Rand
[12:23]	Rand (rand.linden) 	sure
[12:23]	Noelle Linden 	ok
[12:23]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Torben, to answer your question about HTML...
[12:23]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Unfortunately, we are at the mercy of Lithium...
[12:23]	Rand (rand.linden) 	we added your observation, which i confirmed, to the bug report
[12:23]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	:)
[12:24]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	IÂ´ll keep my fingers crossed then
[12:24]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Raymond may know the status beyond that, but that's all i know
[12:24]	Rand (rand.linden) 	ok, thx
[12:24]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Also I have a question for you all...
[12:24]	Youri Ashton 	RE: nothing for the dutch translations yet?
[12:24]	Youri Ashton 	ask rand :)
[12:24]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Youri, are you asking about adding a Dutch KB?
[12:25]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Not sure i understand the question
[12:25]	Youri Ashton 	asking in general really, i havnt done anything in a long time now
[12:25]	Rand (rand.linden) 	At this point, Dutch translations would stay on the wiki
[12:25]	Youri Ashton 	could see it from 2 sides though
[12:25]	Youri Ashton 	kk
[12:25]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Since Lithium is only supporting German, French, Spanish, and Pt.
[12:26]	Youri Ashton 	okay, then ill wait for that to change
[12:26]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Dutch, Polish, Italian, Japanese, all are in the same boat
[12:26]	Noelle Linden 	so only "official" languages are supported in Lithium
[12:26]	Noelle Linden 	for now at least
[12:26]	Rand (rand.linden) 	So, the wiki is still an information resource, FYI
[12:26]	Rand (rand.linden) 	It holds many "Linden Lab Official" articles
[12:26]	Rand (rand.linden) 	as well as what we're referring to as the "Extended Knowledge Base"
[12:27]	ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) 	and Danish
[12:27]	Rand (rand.linden) 	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Extended_Knowledge_Base
[12:27]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Personally, I would encourage continued translation work there for the "other" langs
[12:27]	Rand (rand.linden) 	But really it is up to Noelle
[12:27]	Youri Ashton 	grrrr @ new viewer versions reverting to default mode on all windows and settings <.<
[12:28]	Rand (rand.linden) 	youri +1 ... that IS annoying!
[12:28]	Noelle Linden 	I agree to do it this way Rand
[12:28]	Noelle Linden 	on the wiki
[12:28]	Rand (rand.linden) 	OK great
[12:28]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Until we get the new langs into Lithium...teh wiki is the venue
[12:28]	Youri Ashton 	the one responsable for that part needs a good kick in the rear end and needs to fix it right away <.<
[12:29]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Youri: lol
[12:29]	Noelle Linden 	ah ahh
[12:29]	Rand (rand.linden) 	We should probably do some work to organize the translated content there
[12:29]	Rand (rand.linden) 	we should at least keep track of recent translations on the wiki
[12:30]	Youri Ashton 	good idea rand
[12:30]	Rand (rand.linden) 	So we know what's current and what is not...
[12:30]	Youri Ashton 	then we can not get lost in that forrest
[12:30]	Rand (rand.linden) 	heh yep
[12:30]	Noelle Linden 	so Rand, when translators have a translation of a KB article not suggested in the KB Translation Project
[12:30]	Rand (rand.linden) 	So, my question is about a few articles that I am working on moving from wiki to Lithium....
[12:30]	oobscure (opensource.obscure)	hello everybody back. sorry if i was mute before, i was in the car, connected via phone
[12:30]	Noelle Linden 	they should probably use the wiki too as a venue
[12:30]	Youri Ashton 	wb oob :)
[12:30]	Noelle Linden 	for all languages
[12:30]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	welcome back OO
[12:30]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Yes, Noelle...
[12:31]	Noelle Linden 	OO in SL while driving??
[12:31]	Youri Ashton 	perhaps add dates when it was change and updated
[12:31]	Rand (rand.linden) 	To be clear: if the English article is in the wiki OR the lang is not one of the four "official" langs, then content should stay in wiki
[12:31]	Noelle Linden 	yes
[12:31]	Rand (rand.linden) 	If and until we are able to add new langs to Lithium
[12:31]	Rand (rand.linden) 	So, that kinds of plays into the question I was about to pose
[12:32]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Regarding a few articles I am moving to Lithium from wiki
[12:32]	Rand (rand.linden) 	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/KB_Migration_-_Second_Batch
[12:32]	Youri Ashton 	additional info on the work progress + finished work should be both handy for the translators as the people needing the info
[12:32]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Please look at the "Non-English Articles" section
[12:32]	Rand (rand.linden) 	I notice that most or all of these are marked as old or unofficial translations
[12:32]	Noelle Linden 	yes
[12:32]	Rand (rand.linden) 	SO... my question is: should I move them over to Lithium with their English counterparts ?
[12:32]	Youri Ashton 	french, spanish, german so far i see
[12:33]	Noelle Linden 	they need to be updated probably
[12:33]	Rand (rand.linden) 	OR not bother, and let you guys just re-translate when we get them in Lithum?
[12:33]	Rand (rand.linden) 	So.... don't bother moving them?
[12:33]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	I suggest not to bother
[12:33]	Noelle Linden 	I think we should move them
[12:33]	Youri Ashton 	think it's best to have the translators read and improve where needed
[12:33]	Noelle Linden 	and update them in Lithium
[12:34]	Youri Ashton 	no need to have work from work, pointless
[12:34]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Hm, I am hearing two different answers! :-)
[12:34]	Noelle Linden 	hum
[12:34]	ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) 	:D
[12:34]	Noelle Linden 	;-)
[12:34]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	for me it would be easier not to bother
[12:34]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	because then it makes me look at the article
[12:34]	Noelle Linden 	ok, well you are the ones to decide
[12:34]	Noelle Linden 	ok
[12:34]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	and when I figure out it is up to date I can still copy/paste
[12:35]	Rand (rand.linden) 	OK that is fine... less work for me :-)
[12:35]	Noelle Linden 	so you want to retranslate from scratch reusing the existing translation from the wiki when possible
[12:35]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	I figured youÂ´d like that answer ;)
[12:35]	Noelle Linden 	this is fine for me
[12:35]	Rand (rand.linden) 	I think that makes some sense, because we will probably do some rewriting and editing of the English content after we move them over
[12:35]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	yes Noelle
[12:35]	Youri Ashton 	well as i said, and is pretty much the same as Torben said for that matter, but I think we best check for possible flaws in translations and fix that before posting it again
[12:35]	Noelle Linden 	ok
[12:36]	Youri Ashton 	could help a lot and for sure no one will complaint about some small flaws that might be in it
[12:36]	Noelle Linden 	sounds good to me
[12:36]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	on a sidenote but somehow related... Rand, any news if we can have access to the Doc jira?
[12:36]	Youri Ashton 	i just wanted to make sure we didnt do all the translating all over again, that is the part which doesn't make sense :p
[12:37]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Torben: Unfortunately, I don't think so at this point
[12:37]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	ok
[12:37]	Rand (rand.linden) 	If it were up to me, YES... :-) but it is not my decision
[12:37]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	thatÂ´s totally fine :)
[12:37]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Perhaps we can come up with some other task management tool...
[12:37]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	we just need to think of an alternative
[12:37]	Rand (rand.linden) 	yes
[12:38]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	I could get a educatorÂ´s jira license and host a jira from home ;)
[12:38]	Rand (rand.linden) 	One thought: which projects ARE public in Jira?
[12:38]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Ha
[12:38]	Rand (rand.linden) 	i.e. maybe we could use one of those existing projects (assuming we can get the ok to do that)
[12:38]	Rand (rand.linden) 	WEB is public, right?
[12:38]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	yes
[12:38]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	or we could use CT
[12:39]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Does that still work?
[12:39]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	it would just need a different set of permissions
[12:39]	Youri Ashton 	oh noelle, i noticed a griefer a few days ago in this sim. it might be wise to have a few of us in sim mod/admin mode so we can actually make sure nothing sticks around incase of an attack on the sim
[12:39]	Noelle Linden 	CT still works
[12:39]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	and CT isnÂ´t public
[12:39]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	itÂ´s for the Translator2 group I believe
[12:39]	Noelle Linden 	really Youri?
[12:39]	Youri Ashton 	really
[12:39]	Noelle Linden 	I think I will close access once the meeting is over
[12:39]	oobscure (opensource.obscure)	it seems I can't see CT currently
[12:40]	Youri Ashton 	1 day old avi
[12:40]	Noelle Linden 	it will be safer
[12:40]	Youri Ashton 	newbie male
[12:40]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	OO you need to be added to the Translator2 group then
[12:41]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	Rand, I can put some thought in it and write it down somewhere on the wiki if that helps
[12:41]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Torben that would be great
[12:41]	Youri Ashton 	dont have to close the sim, just saying it might be wise to have a few trusted translators some kick/sim ban options just in case :p
[12:41]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	okies
[12:41]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Like workflow, process, and "best practices" in using Jira for translators
[12:42]	ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) 	the scripts can be turned off here
[12:42]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	yes
[12:42]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	flowchart time :)
[12:42]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	WOOOHOOO!!!!
[12:42]	ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) 	it should limit grifers attacks
[12:42]	Youri Ashton 	think that will kill the scripts in avitars as well incase rezzing here <.<
[12:43]	Youri Ashton 	and since im using this as home, rather not have those disabled <.<
[12:43]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Another question... I noticed quite a bit of commentary in https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Knowledge_Base_Label_Translations
[12:43]	Rand (rand.linden) 	In the German section... :-)
[12:43]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Noelle, perhaps we should take a second look at some of the label translations?
[12:43]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	I do have some objections
[12:44]	Noelle Linden 	wooohh
[12:44]	Noelle Linden 	lots of comments
[12:44]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	for example "account" should not be changed as we use it in many different places
[12:44]	oobscure (opensource.obscure)	(( sorry if you already mentioned this - my questions is: as an Italian - English translator, my only current playground is supposed to be the SL wiki. true/false ? ))
[12:44]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	didnÂ´t have time to comment yet
[12:44]	Noelle Linden 	I agree with Torben
[12:44]	Noelle Linden 	we have to be careful about that
[12:44]	Youri Ashton 	that first one stays 'griefing', best not translate that
[12:44]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	maybe we can postpone this for next meeting or so?
[12:44]	Noelle Linden 	OO for now yes
[12:45]	oobscure (opensource.obscure)	fine, thanks Noelle
[12:45]	Noelle Linden 	but if we add Italian back to the list of "official" languages, that might change
[12:45]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Torben: Find to postpone the discussion, but I wanted to make others aware of this document
[12:45]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	hehe sorry :)
[12:45]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Also, perhaps some French, Spanish, or Pt. speakers want to add comments?
[12:46]	Youri Ashton 	Torben: no worries :p
[12:46]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	but maybe we could change one term immediately?
[12:46]	Noelle Linden 	Torben, find some time to review the comments in German if you can
[12:46]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	Getting started is translated as "AnfÃ¤nger"
[12:46]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	but "AnfÃ¤nger" means N00B
[12:46]	Youri Ashton 	best not call a griefer a noob, you wont really get their thanks :p
[12:47]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	so some articles in the german kb are labelled Noobzor
[12:47]	Rand (rand.linden) 	well, we could just use the term "Newbie" in all langs... Just Kidding! :-)
[12:47]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	hehehe
[12:47]	Rand (rand.linden) 	What do you suggest as an alternative?
[12:47]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	I would suggest "Erste Schritte"
[12:47]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	it means first steps
[12:47]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Ah OK, I will add that to the table now.
[12:47]	Noelle Linden 	ok
[12:48]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	:)
[12:48]	Youri Ashton 	torben, just do as I try to do. change the word if needed to something that means the same but is not offending or possibly in that direction. or at least sounds a lot better
[12:48]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	yes Youri but we canÂ´t change labels
[12:48]	Youri Ashton 	widen the idea spectrum on words :)
[12:48]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	only the allmighties can ;)
[12:48]	Noelle Linden 	lol
[12:49]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Right, these are the built-in Lithium labels
[12:49]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Well not built-in really, but only Admins can change
[12:49]	Rand (rand.linden) 	One thing: if we change a label we may have to go in and re-apply it to all the articles
[12:49]	Youri Ashton 	in that case, torben make a notecard with changes and harras rand with it :p
[12:49]	Youri Ashton 	hehe
[12:49]	Rand (rand.linden) 	I don't think it will just change automatically everywhere
[12:49]	Rand (rand.linden) 	haha
[12:50]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	I refrain from harassing Lindens since I once asked for special treatment and Lexie offered to send me into the cornfields
[12:50]	Noelle Linden 	;-)
[12:50]	Youri Ashton 	cornfields aint that bad :p
[12:50]	Youri Ashton 	been there lots of times :p
[12:51]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	but I bet she would have turned the tvÂ´s off first ;)
[12:51]	Youri Ashton 	lol, Blue used to take us all into there :p
[12:51]	Youri Ashton 	during his OH
[12:51]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	:)
[12:51]	Youri Ashton 	golden times, R.I.P. Blue Linden :(
[12:52]	Rand (rand.linden) 	:-(
[12:52]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Well, life goes on... Second Life goes on, that is...
[12:52]	Noelle Linden 	lol
[12:52]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	maybe he found something new and exciting :)
[12:52]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	you never know
[12:53]	Rand (rand.linden) 	I am asking Lexie now about changing labels...
[12:53]	Youri Ashton 	might be so, doesnt mean we miss him and other lindens less :p
[12:53]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Yeah, I haven't heard from Blue...
[12:53]	Noelle Linden 	thanks Rand
[12:53]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	Noelle, should I post the transcript?
[12:53]	Noelle Linden 	Torben please do!
[12:53]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	ok
[12:53]	Noelle Linden 	thank you
[12:53]	Youri Ashton 	oh! bad rand! you missed one of the best lindens ever ^_^
[12:54]	Noelle Linden 	anything else for today?
[12:54]	Rand (rand.linden) 	Youri: I did know him "back when" but I haven't heard anything from him since...
[12:54]	Youri Ashton 	he said he would offer me friendship on his normal avi, but so far i havnt seen him
[12:55]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	nothing from me :)
[12:55]	Youri Ashton 	i do have pathfinder in my list still
[12:55]	Noelle Linden 	next week, we will meet for 1/2 hour only
[12:55]	Noelle Linden 	at 12 - 12:30
[12:55]	oobscure (opensource.obscure)	ok
[12:55]	Rand (rand.linden) 	OK... see you all then!
[12:55]	Noelle Linden 	sounds good to you all?
[12:55]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	okies
[12:55]	Noelle Linden 	thanks so much for coming
[12:55]	Youri Ashton 	got philip, dessie, amanda, kate, lexie, mia, infinity and fisher in my friends list :)
[12:55]	Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh) 	is ok for me
[12:55]	ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) 	see you next week
[12:55]	oobscure (opensource.obscure)	thank you - and take care you all
[12:55]	Noelle Linden 	have a wonderful night
[12:56]	Noelle Linden 	bye!
[12:56]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	have a great week everybody
[12:56]	Youri Ashton 	thank you for having us noelle :)
[12:56]	Youri Ashton 	and give your little one a big hug for me :)
[12:56]	Torben (torben.trautman) 	and off to amanda :)
[12:56]	Rand (rand.linden) 	bye all
[12:56]	Youri Ashton 	got infinity on facebook as well btw :p
[12:56]	Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh) 	bye all i too :-)
[12:56]	Noelle Linden 	bye!
[12:56]	Youri Ashton 	byt surf
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