Doc Team/2010-01-13

== Transcript ==
[13:00]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: Friendly Greetings jeremy!
[13:00]	 	has pinged you.
[13:00]	:	Hello!
[13:00]	:	Frankie Antonioni: Hey.
[13:00]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: =)
[13:00]	:	Gnome Inkpen: Hiya!
[13:01]	:	Bronson Blackadder: hiya jeremy :)
[13:01]	 	has pinged you.
[13:01]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: I'm Sorry! jeremy, your bear is so comfy, just had to use it as seat =P
[13:01]	 	has pinged you.
[13:01]	:	I bet it's nice and squishy!
[13:01]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: i guess best seat in the house atm :p
[13:01]	:	How's everyone doing this week?
[13:01]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: no tiny chairs here =O
[13:02]	:	Bronson Blackadder: semi depressed lol
[13:02]	:	Jonathan Yap: Xaria, what is in front of me?
[13:02]	:	Gnome Inkpen: FANTABULOUS! How about you Jeremy?
[13:02]	 	has pinged you.
[13:02]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: good here jeremy! how about yourself?
[13:02]	 	has pinged you.
[13:02]	:	Bronson Blackadder: so taht makes me semi happy
[13:02]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:02]	:	Well, there is a tiny chair, but I don't think it's a chair for tinies...
[13:02]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: not for tinies
[13:02]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: i tried =)
[13:02]	:	Gnome Inkpen: A tiny chair, not for tinies?
[13:02]	:	Mojito Sorbet: ha ha
[13:02]	:	Indeed, Gnome.
[13:03]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: Friendly Greetings torley!
[13:03]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:03]	:	Torley Linden: FRIENDLY GREETINGS!
[13:03]	:	Gnome Inkpen: That's like making a pair of glasses and saying "One Size, Fits most".
[13:03]	:	Bronson Blackadder: hiya Torley :)
[13:03]	:	Gnome Inkpen: WHY Friendly greetings!
[13:03]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: great avi again!
[13:03]	:	Torley Linden: +^_^+
[13:03]	:	Torley Linden: Why thankyou...
[13:03]	:	Alto Collins: awsome avi Torley
[13:03]	:	Mojito Sorbet: A smaller musicla instrument than the pipe organ monster
[13:03]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: im green as well for a change!
[13:03]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: just need to torley-fy it and you get a copy torley =P
[13:04]	:	Torley Linden: I look like the watermelon Phantom of the Opera or somesuch entity, muhahaha.
[13:04]	:	Mojito Sorbet: With surround-sound
[13:04]	:	And festive, too!
[13:04]	:	Torley Linden: Whoa Xaria you are froggy!
[13:04]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: yes i am!
[13:04]	:	Torley Linden: ((( COMING TO YOU IN STEREO )))
[13:04]	:	Torley Linden: Haha Gnome, that's lolarious, a top hat for each eye!
[13:04]	:	Torley Linden: Rezzing in texture too... oh very nice.
[13:05]	:	Gnome Inkpen: I wouldn't have it any other way! :D
[13:05]	:	Bronson Blackadder: damn near thought Gnome was a Torley alt
[13:05]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:05]	:	Gnome Inkpen: LOL
[13:05]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: let me guess, no kate or jon today?
[13:05]	:	Torley Linden: I like what you did with the handwritten signs, Gnome.
[13:05]	:	Frankie Antonioni: Ithink I saw Torley in a space suite about 3 years ago.
[13:06]	:	Iwan Balogh: Friendly greetings all
[13:06]	:	Kate may be late, but they're both very busy!
[13:06]	:	Gnome Inkpen: Awww, thanx Torley!
[13:06]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: torley loves dressing up :p
[13:06]	:	Hi Aimee!
[13:06]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Hi, Aimee
[13:06]	:	Bronson Blackadder: ta da out newest Linden
[13:06]	:	Torley Linden: I find myself traveling through various Regions, collecting parts as I voyage, and adding one piece after another... it all gets so profusely intense.
[13:06]	:	Bronson Blackadder: our
[13:06]	:	Torley Linden: AIMEE!
[13:06]	:	Bronson Blackadder: even
[13:06]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: dont blame him tho, he usually comes up with the greatest outfits!
[13:06]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: hey aimee :D
[13:06]	:	Aimee Linden: yello! :D
[13:06]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: did come i see :p
[13:07]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Are Jon and Kate, sweet Kate, working on the documewntation for th SL2-NDA?
[13:07]	:	Gnome Inkpen: hiya Aimee!
[13:07]	:	Sahkolihaa Contepomi: Sahkolihaa Contepomi waits for a terribly long rez.
[13:07]	:	Torley Linden: Don't step on Aimee the butterfly, I hear it causes some Ray Bradbury thing ot happen.
[13:07]	:	Torley Linden: *to
[13:07]	:	Gnome Inkpen: LOL
[13:07]	:	Aimee Linden: ROFL
[13:07]	:	Sahkolihaa Contepomi: Glad I was flying then, Aimee. xP
[13:07]	:	Arawn Spitteler: The Ray Bradbury Effect?
[13:07]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: aimee is a strong butterfly, she can carry the world =P
[13:07]	:	Aimee Linden: you heard about that?
[13:07]	:	Aimee Linden: Aimee Linden blushes
[13:08]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: hey morg =)
[13:08]	:	Bronson Blackadder: today is the most I've heard aimeetalk
[13:08]	:	Bronson Blackadder: ever
[13:08]	:	Torley Linden: Welcome everyone to Doc Team office hours! Shall ye have questions about written help, tips & tricks and related goodness, feel free to asketh!
[13:08]	:	Sahkolihaa Contepomi: Heh.
[13:08]	:	Aimee Linden: Aimee Linden had a slightly embarrassing moment on her second day that involved accidentally setting a VP on fire o.O
[13:08]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Morgaine, have you appended any commment to WEB-1406 yet?
[13:08]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Sitting anims break tinies here.
[13:09]	:	Torley Linden: Which one, Aimee? Ha ha aha....
[13:09]	:	Morgaine Dinova: No Arawn
[13:09]	:	Gnome Inkpen: LOL
[13:09]	:	Aimee Linden: H :D
[13:09]	:	Arawn Spitteler: We need something in Jira, so the Lindens can quietly wonder why the policy looks so dumb
[13:09]	:	Gnome Inkpen: Oh it's fine Aimee, they'll bounce back
[13:10]	:	Arawn Spitteler: The sooner we get these things posted, the sooner we can complain, "Hey, this is over ten years old."
[13:10]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: didnt even start the new year and arawn wants to complain already =P
[13:10]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:11]	:	Bronson Blackadder: its an arawn ism
[13:11]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Happy New Yeears
[13:11]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Progress starts with observing what's wrong with the past.
[13:11]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:11]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: happy new years =P
[13:11]	:	Arawn Spitteler: We just want to get our bitching off an a good tangent
[13:11]	:	Gnome Inkpen: Happeh Easter!
[13:12]	:	Torley Linden: Heh thanks Iwan, you have a really cool outfit yourself. Ancient Egypt eh?
[13:12]	:	Easter? Uh oh, I think I may be losing time.
[13:12]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lol
[13:12]	:	Torley Linden: Amazing what diversity of roleplay Regions have been blooming over time...
[13:12]	:	Bronson Blackadder: crap
[13:12]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: i been hearing of new types of RP zones coming soon to SL, just rumors atm tho
[13:12]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Arawn Spitteler wonders if Sooden could build a Shaky Haiti Region
[13:12]	:	Gnome Inkpen: I love on Mars, our time zones are "whack?" (the cool kidz say whack, right?)
[13:12]	:	Bronson Blackadder: I almost typed my email addy and password in chat
[13:12]	:	Gnome Inkpen: live*
[13:13]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lool
[13:13]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lol bron
[13:13]	:	Torley Linden: Remember, whenever you hear rumors that purport to be from Lindens... provide a source. =)
[13:13]	:	Sahkolihaa Contepomi: That would be a big woops, Bronson.
[13:13]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: not from lindens torley =P
[13:13]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Faster just to pin it on Torley than to find the source :P
[13:13]	:	Gnome Inkpen: I heard from Torley Linden that we are all going to have a group hug today. Source: Torley Linden.
[13:13]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lol
[13:14]	:	!
[13:14]	:	Torley Linden: Hahaha. Of course I support group hugs!
[13:14]	:	Arawn Spitteler: If you hear it in Torley's Office Hour, it must be true, no mater who suggested it
[13:14]	:	Torley Linden: I've heard all manner of, uh, whack rumors before. Some people, like Fox Mulder, want to believe so badly, tho.
[13:14]	:	I heard that the moon is made of green cheese...
[13:14]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: wish you were hre... *sings along with the music*
[13:14]	:	Bronson Blackadder: and STILL no reply from qarl about being added to mesh testing
[13:14]	:	Morgaine Dinova: It's in the ToS, "Torley accepts responsibility for all remarks made in OHs in his presence."
[13:15]	:	Torley Linden: The first time I heard that green cheese one was on Today's Special, the Canadian show with a department store and a mannequin named Jeff... if anyone else knows that. :)
[13:15]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lol
[13:15]	:	Gnome Inkpen: Mars is made of Pink Cheese, it's watermelon flavoured too!
[13:15]	:	Iwan Balogh: Hey have to leave for RL ..<- not afraid for the group hug really ..laughs see you later all..
[13:15]	:	Oh wow, Torley. I've been trying to remember the name of that show for years!
[13:15]	:	Torley Linden: Morgaine, how are you holding that sword... is it like a skin graft... ?
[13:15]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: well, im sure if someone goes too far torley will take action if needed :p
[13:15]	:	Torley Linden: O.O
[13:16]	:	Torley Linden: I read SL Answers regularly, and some stuff, while zany, does benefit from clarification. Like, we don't enforce mandatory pregnancy for avatars, as some believe.
[13:16]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: morg is most likely on guild wars now torley
[13:16]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lol
[13:16]	:	Gnome Inkpen: Awwe, Torleh's niice! How can anyone get outta hand with him around. :D
[13:16]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: morg and myself have been on there for several weeks now
[13:16]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Torley: nope, it's delicately balanced to help with posture. It takes great skill to do that when upside down.
[13:17]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Torley does Guild Wars? Neat!!!
[13:17]	:	Torley Linden: Whoa that's odd, Morgaine, I wonder if the middle part has failed to render for me...
[13:18]	:	Torley Linden: I'm not on Guild Wars, my wife used to play that lots though.
[13:18]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: same here torley
[13:18]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Arawn Spitteler prefers to clean both eas with a single stroke
[13:18]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: i got 2 accounts for guild wars myself :p
[13:18]	:	Frankie Antonioni: The only other game I play on the internet is Travian.
[13:18]	:	Bronson Blackadder: I used to do eve online
[13:18]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: thanks to morg and another friend i finally got on 1 character all parts completed for the very first time in 4 years
[13:18]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lol
[13:19]	:	Morgaine Dinova: It's a great casual MMO, doesn't need time investment like EQ or WoW or AO etc. Just pop in for an hour or two. And no monthly subs, which helps the "casual" aspect.
[13:19]	:	Torley Linden: Any suggestions for awesome stuff I should blog about on Second Life Tips & Tricks yet? http://secondlife.com/tnt yeahhh... I'm thinking to emphasize Opening Boxes, 'cause as obvious as a topic that is, it keeps coming up for newcomers and I revised the help page this morning.
[13:19]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: kep helping to many people :p
[13:19]	:	Torley Linden: I'd really thrive on a cyberpunk MMO, but Otherland is several years away, last I checked. So we shall see.
[13:19]	:	Anya Yalin: Anya Yalin waves all around
[13:19]	:	Arawn Spitteler: How to open the SYD Collection?
[13:19]	:	Bronson Blackadder: yeah I good tip is how to open boxes in no rez aras
[13:19]	:	Torley Linden: Anya! What sculptie wonders hath thou brought us today? :D
[13:19]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Only one I did was Flight Sim, which is not exactly casual. Talking to Air Traffic Control over Germany...
[13:19]	:	Gnome Inkpen: Sum box opening tips would rock!
[13:20]	:	Anya Yalin: lol heya Torley :) just my old stuff, busy with school pfftz :P
[13:20]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: think you should do something about how to gain money in SL for example, good topic for new users
[13:20]	:	Mojito Sorbet: lol
[13:20]	:	Torley Linden: Bronson, how do you do it?
[13:20]	:	Bronson Blackadder: first thing they ask is... wheres my penis
[13:20]	:	Bronson Blackadder: how do I make money
[13:20]	:	Torley Linden: OH! I forgot to mention some stores have rez zones and stuff, in addition to sandboxes... I should add that...
[13:20]	:	Morgaine Dinova: I wonder bother to suggest a Tips and Tricks on how to move your stuff to Opensim ... :P
[13:20]	:	Morgaine Dinova: won't* bother
[13:20]	 	Pianophone F: Madtone Planetary Pianophone F: Hello, Avatar!
[13:21]	:	Torley Linden: I know you can edit an attachment and copy some stuff out, but that's hard for someone not well coordinated.
[13:21]	:	Mojito Sorbet: I see more stores now that just let you rez a box for 2 minutes anywhere. They used ot make you go stand in the corner.
[13:21]	:	Anya Yalin: AO configuration would be helpful to explain, dunno if that's in there
[13:21]	:	Ardy Lay: I live near an infohub (why are they called that) and new people beg for money constantly.
[13:21]	:	Arawn Spitteler: I think you need Copy-Bot, to move into Open Sim
[13:21]	:	Torley Linden: Morgaine, I already got into enough trouble asking "What's your fave open source Viewer feature?"
[13:21]	:	Torley Linden: ;)
[13:21]	:	Frankie Antonioni: You might can do one on flying. I was playing SL for 7 months, before I learned to fly straight up, bt pressing the up key.
[13:21]	:	Bronson Blackadder: I usually tell people they need to buy thier penis then they can go out and make money with it... but they need money to buy thier penis
[13:21]	:	Torley Linden: Controversy and popularity are joined at the hip.
[13:21]	:	Bronson Blackadder: it usualy makes thier head spin in teh catch 22 of it all
[13:21]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Avoid the freebie penises...
[13:22]	:	Torley Linden: Money is a challenging topic because, like the real world, impatience comes into play. We need an SL equivalent of Ramit Sethi!
[13:22]	:	Bronson Blackadder: oh the gear shit ones?
[13:22]	:	Bronson Blackadder: shift
[13:22]	:	Bronson Blackadder: crap
[13:22]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Is it possible to make money, with those things?
[13:22]	:	Torley Linden: XD
[13:22]	:	Bronson Blackadder: taht was a hellava typo
[13:22]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Torley: not real trouble, if the Tao means anything. I hope you gave the person who found it problematic a piece of your mind :-)
[13:22]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Or a watermelon :P
[13:22]	:	Anya Yalin: i think the people who ask for money right away are the ones who won't make any in the end, cuz they're too impatient
[13:22]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: dont forget my tip, to many new residents keep asking around for money, would be nice to give the new residents a propper attempt on how to gain money
[13:22]	:	Bronson Blackadder: gear shift gear shift gear shift
[13:22]	:	Torley Linden: Morgaine, hehe. I most certainly did.
[13:22]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Haha
[13:23]	:	Mojito Sorbet: The easiest way to get money is to bring your own
[13:23]	:	Torley Linden: Anya, yes, it's an interesting psychological test. I always like seeing who's willing to learn... and they in turn are also more helpful to others.
[13:23]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lol, besides that mojito :p
[13:23]	:	Bronson Blackadder: thats the second thing I suggest
[13:23]	:	Bronson Blackadder: just buy your money
[13:23]	:	Bronson Blackadder: its a lot easier
[13:23]	:	Mojito Sorbet: It sure beats camping
[13:23]	:	Torley Linden: True, if you can't be bothered to generate L$ from the get-go, heck, it's easy to convert USD to L$.
[13:23]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: not everyone has the financial capabilities to buy their SL money :p
[13:23]	:	Torley Linden: Some people don't even know that's an option, so it's a valid one.
[13:23]	:	Anya Yalin: i think it's best to make some friends first and then start a business, i think 90% of those starting out had help from friends
[13:23]	:	Anya Yalin: i certainly did
[13:23]	:	Torley Linden: You can always make more money but can't make more time!
[13:24]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: myself for example, no go area :)
[13:24]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Maybe bring that up more prominently
[13:24]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Torley: great line, and so true
[13:24]	:	Torley Linden: Ah yes, friendship also helps when starting group scavenger hunts, or buying a Region together.
[13:24]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Arawn Spitteler gets money from Show and Tell, and Toob Races
[13:24]	:	Mojito Sorbet: How do you make money on a Toob race?
[13:24]	:	Arawn Spitteler: The ones with prizes
[13:24]	:	Frankie Antonioni: It also helps in contest.
[13:25]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: "How to make money WITHOUT buying with real money"
[13:25]	:	Anya Yalin: i used to make money sploding, shame that's gone now :P
[13:25]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: that would be a interresting thing
[13:25]	:	Torley Linden: I remember sploders! I used to go to those clubs where all the particle dollah bills rain down on you...
[13:25]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Sploders are gone?
[13:25]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Winning contests is probably the best way to get a few hundred all at once
[13:25]	:	Anya Yalin: i made like 10k doing that
[13:25]	:	Torley Linden: Club promoters with ASCII art gestures are still here though, hahaha. Someone should start a collection of all those gestures, I'd post it in my gallery.
[13:25]	:	Bronson Blackadder: what really gauls me is all the zyngo machines
[13:25]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Arawn Spitteler gets by on consdolation prizes
[13:26]	:	Bronson Blackadder: clearly gambling
[13:26]	:	Frankie Antonioni: Theres still sploders.
[13:26]	:	Torley Linden: Apparently that Unicode post I did was one of the most popular ever in SLTNT, I didn't know so many people were curious! But it makes sense, culturally.
[13:26]	:	Anya Yalin: yep, but not as many as there used to be
[13:26]	:	Mojito Sorbet: I have seen clubs where using ASCII art gestures will get you thrown out.
[13:26]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Still some places doing 'sploders. I guess they stay below the level where LL, the IRS, or the Gambling Commission cares.
[13:26]	:	Torley Linden: AKA https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/community/tnt/blog/2010/01/06/fun-awesomize-your-profile-with-unicode-and-ascii-art
[13:26]	:	Torley Linden: Peeps are even talking upside-down in the comments. XD
[13:27]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: sploders are a 50-50 thing as Blondin told me
[13:27]	:	Arawn Spitteler: I think, if it doesn't cost money, or it's a game of skill, it might be legal
[13:27]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: its on my blog the convo log
[13:27]	:	Anya Yalin: i had a system for sploding lol
[13:27]	:	Mojito Sorbet: I know a place where the tip jar instantly divides any contribution among all avatars present.
[13:27]	:	Frankie Antonioni: I always look for camping places that pay 3/15, and have anti bot.
[13:28]	:	Torley Linden: Does anyone remember illegal rating parties way back? When we had profile ratings? That was crazy stuff, there'd be a watcher looking out for Lindens to warn everyone when the party was gonna be cracked down, it was crazy stuff!
[13:28]	:	Arawn Spitteler: I thought Camping was banned?
[13:28]	:	Mojito Sorbet: One place I know will give you a kimono worth 600L if you stay and dance for 13 hours.
[13:28]	:	Torley Linden: (Apparently it was so crazy I said it twice, haha.)
[13:28]	:	Anya Yalin: 13 hours? o.O
[13:28]	:	Anya Yalin: i never heard of rating parties :o
[13:28]	:	Frankie Antonioni: Theres still camping.
[13:28]	:	Mojito Sorbet: You have to disable the AWAY timout
[13:28]	:	Anya Yalin: i thought rating was fun though
[13:28]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: i been ripped off from what i thought were friends
[13:29]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:29]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lost about 60k
[13:29]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Ratings were very cool, Torley. They allowed us to offer compliments to anything we found was nice in SL.
[13:29]	:	Anya Yalin: yep, my thoughts exactly :)
[13:29]	:	Morgaine Dinova: I think the baby was thrown out with the bathwater
[13:29]	:	Torley Linden: One thing I wished for at the time, Morgaine, was a log of all those ratings comments.
[13:29]	:	Mojito Sorbet: There are several sim-rating services now, where you vote at a kiosk. And then a web site sorts the results.
[13:30]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Its more realistic than relying on traffic numbers
[13:30]	:	Frankie Antonioni: I think SL should have an ebay type of rating.
[13:30]	:	Anya Yalin: is that why rating was banned? cuz of rating parties?
[13:30]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Ha ha. We will not discuss SL's OWN rating at the BBB.
[13:31]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Bizi Biziness Buro?
[13:31]	:	Bronson Blackadder: Aimee is back to being her normal quiet self again
[13:31]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Butter Biscuits Bureau
[13:31]	:	I totally read that twice before I didn't see the word "burrito".
[13:31]	:	Bronson Blackadder: bad business butts
[13:32]	:	Morgaine Dinova: I said cookies, so I win
[13:32]	:	Torley Linden: Anya, not the only reason; we were discussing a successor but it didn't come about at the time.
[13:32]	:	Torley Linden: Shy butterfly! :)
[13:32]	:	Anya Yalin: aww shame :s
[13:32]	:	Aimee Linden: sorry :D got distracted by shiny stuff
[13:32]	:	Arawn Spitteler: BBB keeps a tab, of all buisinesses that are cooperating with thei efforts to maintain a good reputation for buisinesses, by paying their bribes
[13:32]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lol
[13:32]	:	Torley Linden: Some things are best done within the system, other things need Resident contributions to flourish. Some are both. :)
[13:32]	:	Bronson Blackadder: bigger bribes bureau
[13:32]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Calling a pixie a butterfly is like calling a human a gorilla. Nooooooo!
[13:33]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Aimee seems to be melting.
[13:33]	:	Torley Linden: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_business_bureau #Criticisms
[13:33]	:	Aimee Linden: lol
[13:33]	:	Sahkolihaa Contepomi: Heh.
[13:33]	:	That may just be pixie dust.
[13:33]	:	Bronson Blackadder: has that infinite fuel source thing going on
[13:33]	:	Mojito Sorbet: The lesson to be learned though is that some rating systems can be gamed
[13:33]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Has anyone looked up the BBB Rating for the BBB?
[13:33]	:	If you get any on you, you might fly!
[13:33]	:	Torley Linden: OMG Aimee is a PIXIE? I AM SO EMBARRASSED.
[13:33]	:	Gnome Inkpen: Lol Arawn
[13:34]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Haha Torley
[13:34]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lol
[13:34]	:	Aimee Linden: it's ok, I'm used to it :)
[13:34]	:	Ardy Lay: Oops... I have been doing that too. Sorry.
[13:34]	:	Torley Linden: Not to be confused with Pixie Linden of course.
[13:35]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: I'm Sorry! to say aimee, but on my screen i see 2 wings with a light sphere attached o_0
[13:35]	:	Bronson Blackadder: Torley, I was telling peeps earlier I googled my avatar name and I found my pics on your flickr page
[13:35]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: could be my machine tho
[13:35]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: mari!!!!
[13:35]	:	Torley Linden: Bronson, cool!
[13:35]	:	Torley Linden: Hey Mari!
[13:35]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:35]	:	Marianne McCann: hi1
[13:35]	:	Marianne McCann: Hiya
[13:35]	:	Daniel Voyager: hey Marianne :)
[13:35]	:	Marianne McCann: Ah, I see you have one of those keyboards too, Torley! They're super fun, no?
[13:36]	:	Aimee Linden: oops, that's not the group tag I was looking for o.O
[13:36]	:	Marianne McCann: Hi All!
[13:36]	:	Torley Linden: They are rockin'! I like the POUND button.
[13:36]	:	Torley Linden: So it isn't all your fault, Aimee?
[13:36]	:	Sahkolihaa Contepomi: LOL Aimee.
[13:36]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: nice tag =P
[13:36]	:	Marianne McCann: Marianne McCann snickers
[13:36]	:	Aimee Linden: that's better :D
[13:36]	:	Gnome Inkpen: "It is JUST partially my fault" Oh shoot, that's too long. I think.
[13:36]	:	Marianne McCann: I still prefer the blurtophone, though
[13:36]	:	Marianne McCann: Marianne McCann grins
[13:36]	:	Torley Linden: Vernes, cool design, I like the green mesh and your open mind! Literally!
[13:37]	:	Torley Linden: I wish that Dr. Seuss had lived long enough to see Second Life.
[13:37]	:	Gnome Inkpen: OMG That rocks Vernes!
[13:37]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Cat In The Hat avatars?
[13:37]	:	Vernes Veranes: eh?
[13:37]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Hmmm ... green and red .... now what might Torley find attractive in that? ^_^
[13:37]	:	Torley Linden: And beyond... some of the sheer whimsical shiznit Resis be comin' up with is badass.
[13:37]	:	Vernes Veranes: oh thanks :P
[13:37]	:	Torley Linden: Dr. Seuss would have to bust a lotta rhymes, I'm tellin' ya.
[13:38]	:	Vernes Veranes: It still awaits some scripting for movement.
[13:38]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Yes, need moving gears
[13:38]	:	Torley Linden: Haha my bias is actually towards green and pink. Although Christmas colors and green-purple are close relatives and sometimes I blend shades...
[13:38]	:	Bronson Blackadder: christ... Dr Suess would make a fortune here if he knew how to build
[13:38]	:	Torley Linden: Did you see in the news, there was that dude who had eyeglasses tattooed to his face.
[13:38]	:	Bronson Blackadder: and still alive
[13:39]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: hahaha
[13:39]	:	Torley Linden: http://dailycontributor.com/guy-gets-eyeglass-tattoo/10545/
[13:39]	:	Anya Yalin: is it cuz of your love of watermelons btw or the other way around? pink and green and then came the watermelons? :o
[13:39]	:	Gnome Inkpen: LOL
[13:39]	:	Arawn Spitteler: He's got to get some practice on Teen Grid, before he comes on line
[13:39]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Little known fact - you cna pick any 3 colors as your color-system primaries, provided they are spaced properly n the wheel
[13:39]	:	Torley Linden: My alt was looking for tats, haven't decided what yet...
[13:39]	:	Gnome Inkpen: Oh great what question: What came first pink & green, or watermelons?
[13:39]	:	Torley Linden: Anya, I think they developed concurrently. But I've liked watermelons since I was a child.
[13:40]	:	Vernes Veranes: I still await semiconducting tats
[13:40]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: havnt bothered yet finding tats
[13:40]	:	Torley Linden: My alt is purple-gold-black.
[13:40]	:	Marianne McCann: Not sure how much exploring time you get in nowadays, Torley, but you might enjoy apeek at my la test in Miramare. Mainly for the information and exploration walls, but you might also like the Sno-Kone Robot there
[13:40]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Arawn Spitteler wonders what Semiconductors would do on a train
[13:40]	:	Torley Linden: I still heart exploring Mari! Gor SLurl?
[13:40]	:	Morgaine Dinova: I liked watermelons from proper watermelon countries. Here in UK they're utterly pathetic, tiny and tastless.
[13:40]	:	Torley Linden: I mean, GOT SLurl.
[13:40]	:	Marianne McCann: of course!
[13:41]	:	Torley Linden: No Freudian slip there, I assure you...
[13:41]	:	Marianne McCann: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Miramare/176/116/26
[13:41]	:	Torley Linden: That sux Morgain someday I want to have a giant cubed one.
[13:41]	:	Torley Linden: Thx *collects*
[13:41]	:	Arawn, that's silly. You'd put semiconductors in front of a band, of course!
[13:41]	:	Bronson Blackadder: Mari doesnt strike me as being gorean
[13:41]	:	Vernes Veranes: Arawn: change your tats into lethal weapons, or a horrible experience
[13:41]	:	Torley Linden: Hahaha Jeremy, and they're half-effective?
[13:41]	 	has pinged you.
[13:41]	:	dgroby Aquila: CIAO
[13:41]	:	Well, that's why you get two.
[13:41]	:	Marianne McCann: be sure to click about there. lots of little things and easter eggs
[13:41]	:	Torley Linden: Hahahahahaha. Oh cracking up so much here.
[13:42]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Foigure out, what Doctor Seuss would do as a Tattoo Artist, or a Semiconductor, and then do a sim
[13:42]	:	Marianne McCann: Semiconductors can only conduct in halfsteps
[13:42]	:	And if they're good enough, the two semiconductors could perform a dual-encore.
[13:42]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:43]	:	Torley Linden: Sometimes I go to https://www.xstreetsl.com/ and zone out on the front page, keep clicking More... nice quick way to get an overview of what's possible in SL.
[13:43]	:	Bronson Blackadder: zone out
[13:43]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:43]	:	Bronson Blackadder: you crack me up
[13:43]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:44]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:44]	:	Torley Linden: I mean it not in a slacktastic way, but more like, uh, "get into the zone"...
[13:44]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:44]	:	Anya Yalin: when are those fee changes going to be implemented btw?
[13:44]	:	Torley Linden: Look up Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi and flow theory.
[13:44]	:	Bronson Blackadder: just sounds like something I do all the time
[13:44]	:	Gnome Inkpen: I do that all the time Torley
[13:44]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: there, that should make jeremy stop touching me :p
[13:44]	 	has pinged you.
[13:44]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: <<<hihi>>>
[13:44]	:	Bronson Blackadder: just get really into it
[13:44]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: jk jeremy ;)
[13:44]	 	has pinged you.
[13:44]	:	Say what? :-O
[13:44]	:	Torley Linden: Anya, I don't know offhand but the Commerce Team shall be announcing that on their blog.
[13:44]	:	!
[13:44]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lol
[13:44]	:	Marianne McCann: Ya, I'd have a hard time picturing a "zoned out" "slacking" Torley.
[13:45]	:	Torley Linden: You guys ever see Dug in Pixar's Up?
[13:45]	:	Torley Linden: I can relate to that dog.
[13:45]	:	Anya Yalin: ah good, just want some notice beforehand ^^
[13:45]	:	Gnome Inkpen: You don't like Jeremy touching you?
[13:45]	 	has pinged you.
[13:45]	:	Vernes Veranes: yes
[13:45]	:	Marianne McCann: Marianne McCann points out a squirrel
[13:45]	:	Torley Linden: OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY... SQUIRREL!
[13:45]	:	Anya Yalin: aww he was so cute
[13:45]	:	Anya Yalin: "squirrel!"
[13:45]	:	Believable dog dialogue, if that's even a thing.
[13:45]	:	Sahkolihaa Contepomi: Sahkolihaa Contepomi instantly thought of Squirrel wood then.
[13:45]	:	Bronson Blackadder: I just picture Torley sitting there leaning towards the monitor wide eyed... saying wow!.. wow!! wow..!
[13:45]	:	Frankie Antonioni: Have to go eat dinner.
[13:46]	:	Anya Yalin: "i was hiding under your porch cuz i looove you"
[13:46]	:	Vernes Veranes: "Why you call me the alpha? I'm not the alpha! he is... ooooh"
[13:46]	:	Anya Yalin: lol
[13:46]	:	Marianne McCann: That tells you the power of the characterization, BTW. Look at how quickly everyone related the character to his big line?
[13:46]	:	Torley Linden: Nom nom nom.
[13:46]	:	Anya Yalin: i love Up
[13:46]	:	Torley Linden: Bronson, I often do.
[13:46]	:	Vernes Veranes: it's a sad/happy story
[13:46]	:	Torley Linden: Exactly, Mari... and yeah Vernes, Up had the SADDEST Pixar intro.
[13:46]	:	Marianne McCann: Me too, Anya. Pixar jes keeps makin' stronger and stronger films
[13:46]	:	Anya Yalin: Up is probably my favourite so far
[13:47]	:	Marianne McCann: Up and Wall-E are both brilliant works.
[13:47]	:	Anya Yalin: though i never saw Monsters Inc or Cars
[13:47]	:	Torley Linden: I liked Up because although it had a small cast compared to, say, Cars or Finding Nemo, they really focused on wonderful characters.
[13:47]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Kuula haveing adventures?"
[13:47]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: o0o, Philip just twittered
[13:47]	:	Torley Linden: Trivia, Ed Catmull of Pixar is responsible for some 3D advances that eventually made it into stuff like... Second Life. :)
[13:47]	:	Anya Yalin: :o
[13:48]	:	Torley Linden: Z-buffering, for one.
[13:48]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Arawn Spitteler misses a lot of Movies: Anyone remember Bell Book and Candle? I wonder if anyone could animate that contortionist
[13:48]	:	Anya Yalin: it's amazing how much they've grown, everyone thought they were crazy for doing Toy Story, same happened with Walt Disney and Snow White
[13:48]	:	Marianne McCann: I read something the other day about Apple doing some work on OpenGL in their next version of OS X. Hoping that leads to some future graphical goodness here too
[13:48]	:	Vernes Veranes: everybody saw avatar 3D ofcourse
[13:48]	:	Morgaine Dinova: How's Philip's new venture doing anyway? Note heard anything since the manpower "quest" went out, in lieu of recruitment notices. :P
[13:48]	:	Sahkolihaa Contepomi: Sahkolihaa Contepomi still wants to see OpenGL 3.2 to it's fullest.
[13:49]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Avatar was completely unbelievable, with a Marine Veteran joining the Na'vi
[13:49]	:	Torley Linden: Morgaine, I've heard he and Ryan are having a lot of fun.
[13:49]	:	Marianne McCann: There's much I'd love to see, graphics wise
[13:49]	:	Bronson Blackadder: oh hey there is a possibility for employment as it doesnt look like it will happen here
[13:49]	:	Torley Linden: Hahahahaha Arawn, oh are you the first one to tell that joke?
[13:49]	:	Arawn Spitteler: I doubt it, it seem rather obvious
[13:50]	:	Torley Linden: Philip's a big believer in crowdsourcing and really gunning for the right, passionate people.
[13:50]	:	Vernes Veranes: But really, I didn't watch it for a 2nd time for the story
[13:50]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Torley: just as long as he realizes that there's a difference between passionate people and crackheads :P
[13:50]	:	Torley Linden: My job interview with him was basically sharing childhood stories, it was really awesome. You should see him tell a story in person if you haven't already, he gets SO wide-eyed, he just pulls you into his tale.
[13:51]	:	Bronson Blackadder: sounds like me
[13:51]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:51]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:51]	:	Torley Linden: Yeah, passion for crack... that ain't good for your soul.
[13:51]	:	Vernes Veranes: that sounds cool :D
[13:51]	:	Bronson Blackadder: no not crack
[13:51]	:	Marianne McCann: 's true, Torley. He exudes a passionate optimism
[13:51]	:	Bronson Blackadder: just get wired up on telling a story
[13:51]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: not sure what philips new project is, but sounds like he is creating a new SL version
[13:51]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: SL 2 so to say :p
[13:51]	:	Torley Linden: It'll be intriguing to see what happens with Love Machine. Making work more fun is important because you care more, you perform better.
[13:51]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Not AFAIK
[13:51]	:	Marianne McCann: http://www.sendlove.us/
[13:52]	:	Sahkolihaa Contepomi: o_o
[13:52]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Ever read Gesundheit!?
[13:52]	:	Torley Linden: Some detractors miss the point, but that's always how it is. You get complainers and lazyasses who don't get out there and invent a virtual world or other remarkable thing.
[13:52]	:	Bronson Blackadder: so many jobs are like slave labor camps these days
[13:52]	:	Marianne McCann: Ya, Torley. i'm really trying to target places that I'll be able to be at my best for my next job. Provided I do't have to just be a fry cook to survive
[13:53]	:	Anya Yalin: lol Torley this was just posted on Cheezburger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOeiV_bBPm8&feature=sub
[13:53]	:	Vernes Veranes: what is Philip's twitter?
[13:53]	:	Bronson Blackadder: you even laugh out loud and every manager raises thier head to see who is making a disruption
[13:53]	:	Torley Linden: P Squared is fun to visit if you haven't been to that Region, Alexa did a nice job decorating Philip's digs.
[13:53]	:	Torley Linden: Yeah that sounds too much like The Matrix, Bronson.
[13:53]	:	Marianne McCann: Bronson - you mean "prarie dogging?"
[13:53]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: http://twitter.com/philiplinden
[13:53]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:53]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: thats philips twitter
[13:53]	:	Bronson Blackadder: yeah
[13:53]	:	Torley Linden: Hahahahaaha nom nom.
[13:54]	:	Bronson Blackadder: but I built yachts
[13:54]	:	Bronson Blackadder: not office work
[13:54]	:	Looks a lot more healthful than a cheezburger!
[13:54]	:	Torley Linden: Oh for anyone who likes Lady Gaga (and watermelons), http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOeiV_bBPm8 :) It was so crudely put together but the sheer silliness of it, OMG.
[13:54]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: watermelon gaga?
[13:54]	:	Torley Linden: "Watermelon  it's a good fruit. You eat, you drink, you wash your face." -Enrico Caruso
[13:54]	:	Torley Linden: Yes, in a manner of speaking, Xaria.
[13:54]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lady gagamelon
[13:54]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lol
[13:54]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Torley: maybe it depends on one's environment, but I've usually found the opposite to be true: that most tech people are highly eager to get new things done, and are prevented from doing do by the company, hierarchy, and worst of all, The Process.
[13:55]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: sweet animals
[13:55]	:	Daniel Voyager: giggles
[13:55]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lag spike!
[13:55]	:	Torley Linden: NY Times sez Lady Gaga looks like a Second Life avatar. I wonder if she's ever logged in?
[13:55]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Oh, Bronson, you built Yachts? I'd like a free Airplane
[13:55]	:	Bronson Blackadder: same thing happens in the building industry too
[13:55]	:	Bronson Blackadder: you come up with a new way to do things
[13:55]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lol, illigal resident? torley?
[13:55]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lol
[13:56]	:	Torley Linden: Morgaine, how's that the opposite? I hate wasteful/sloppy bureaucracy or old things that perpetuate just because it's "tradition", not because it makes actual sense.
[13:56]	:	Bronson Blackadder: and about 5 yachts down teh line it finaly gets implemented
[13:56]	:	Marianne McCann: Ya, but she got banned for repetitive gesture spamming in an infohub
[13:56]	:	Marianne McCann: Marianne McCann smiles
[13:56]	:	Bronson Blackadder: usualy about the time a new design comes out
[13:56]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: lol mari
[13:56]	:	Bronson Blackadder: so your idea no longer works
[13:56]	:	Torley Linden: KAIZEN FTW... not that I'm a blind believer, but reacting quickly, that's essential!
[13:56]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: i know for fact that even Obama had a avi here on SL
[13:56]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: his own avi
[13:56]	:	Vernes Veranes: how do you know?
[13:57]	:	Torley Linden: Lady Gaga-looking avatars came before Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta was ever Lady Gaga, tho.
[13:57]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: i seen him o_0
[13:57]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: some event
[13:57]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Torley: I meant it's the opposite to saying that they key is to recruit only passionate people. In my experience the majority of techs are VERY passionate.
[13:57]	:	Vernes Veranes: You seen an obama-avatar
[13:57]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: no, obama himself, he used voice
[13:57]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: unless its a darned good voice changer... o_0
[13:57]	:	Torley Linden: Ah yeah, I getcha, Morgaine. I love it when someone can just earnestly go off into depths about what they love, and it's hard to shut them up. One of those personality traits.
[13:58]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Hehe, aye
[13:58]	:	Torley Linden: I love hearing about obsessions (provided they aren't weird-creepy, like stalking celebrities!).
[13:58]	:	Bronson Blackadder: oh sorry didnt mean to go off on a yacht tangent
[13:58]	:	Marianne McCann: Ya, Torley. Being one who does that myself, I always admire that in others. I love it when people show their passions
[13:58]	:	Bronson Blackadder: Bronson Blackadder looks back to see if someone told me to shutup
[13:58]	:	Gnome Inkpen: What about FUN happeh stalking Torley obsessions?
[13:58]	:	Torley Linden: I can only invest in so much media because I have a compulsion to learn all about it... in weeks I went from an NCIS n00b to, well, I'm more comfortable with the material now. :)
[13:59]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Arawn Spitteler needs money, to stalk Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and Thor Heyerdahl
[13:59]	:	Torley Linden: As long as it's "FUN happeh stalking" and not "restraining order stalking" I be cool with that.
[13:59]	:	Morgaine Dinova: Bronson: yacht tangents are every bit as good as car analogies :P
[13:59]	:	Torley Linden: =o)
[13:59]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:59]	:	Gnome Inkpen: Cool! :D
[13:59]	:	Sahkolihaa Contepomi: And no, I am not the easter bunny. >_>
[13:59]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: there are 2 at his place
[13:59]	:	Torley Linden: Some people have passion but they're afraid to show it, they've been beaten down and discouraged. That's harsh. I like knowing when SL can empower someone to show their innermost form and explore that in a safe environment.
[13:59]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Sahk, I didn't even think you lived in Venezuela
[14:00]	:	Torley Linden: As Up would teach us, you're never too old for adventure. :)
[14:00]	:	Sahkolihaa Contepomi: I don't. :p
[14:00]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: dont see anyone up there atm tho
[14:00]	:	Marianne McCann: No disagreements there!
[14:00]	:	Sahkolihaa Contepomi: Sahkolihaa Contepomi notices it's 10PM.
[14:00]	:	Bronson Blackadder: I told amber linden today sl is almost the same as high school for me
[14:00]	:	Torley Linden: How so, Bronson?
[14:00]	:	Niky Zenovka: Niky Zenovka nods @Torley
[14:00]	:	Xaria Mistwallow: think its his OH place, higher up
[14:00]	:	Bronson Blackadder: dont really feel I fit in with any particular crowd here
[14:01]	:	Vernes Veranes: oh?
 
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