Commerce Office Hours/2010-05-04 20:00

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== Transcript ==
[20:00]	:	hi Pink
[20:00]	:	Greetings everyone!
[20:00]	:	Hallooooo :)
[20:00]	:	Hiya Pink
[20:00]	:	omg.....Pink...isn't a bunny? Did I just notice that for the first time?
[20:00]	:	lol
[20:00]	:	hi pink, goodseeing you
[20:00]	:	just grey right now
[20:00]	:	Evening Pink
[20:01]	:	Oh nice, this chair comes with a seat-warmer
[20:01]	:	my chat seems laggy....
[20:01]	 	hears a pink but doesn't see a pink. >.>
[20:01]	:	/lag off
[20:01]	:	reducing settlings to see it faster
[20:01]	:	ah better
[20:01]	:	Hiya Pink
[20:01]	:	can I ask for a volunteer moderator tonight?
[20:01]	:	sure
[20:01]	:	Ahh there she is, evening Pink.
[20:01]	:	I'm thinking someone to take questions and then hand off to me and organize
[20:02]	:	was a bit frantic organizing and talking all at once
[20:02]	:	cara and I can do it
[20:02]	:	I'll be happy to help since I"ve been to the other 2 today lol
[20:02]	:	Thanks CarpeDiem and Cara
[20:02]	 	Tree: Falling Blossoms ON
[20:02]	:	so folks, we'll get started.
[20:02]	:	Welcome
[20:02]	:	thanks for coming out to Commerce Office hours. Our topic today will be yesterday's marketplace blog post
[20:03]	:	the agenda will be open Q&A, so if folks could send their questions in IM to CarpeDiem or Cara that'd help make chat easier for everyone to follow
[20:03]	:	any concerns with that?
[20:03]	:	nah
[20:03]	:	nope
[20:03]	:	sweet. fire away at them. hehe.
[20:03]	:	it's all good
[20:03]	:	lol
[20:03]	 	takes drink of water.
[20:04]	:	I'm usually fired at nothing new lol
[20:04]	:	didnt think weapons were allowed here
[20:04]	:	lol
[20:04]	:	(pregnant pause)
[20:05]	:	ooo
[20:05]	:	Sorry nothing is rezzing. Who do I IM? Would you be able to type so I can pull up profile?
[20:05]	:	whos pregnant O.O
[20:05]	:	me! o/
[20:05]	:	myself or Cara
[20:05]	:	lol
[20:05]	:	Ok, ty!
[20:05]	:	Lovely timing that there
[20:05]	 	snickers
[20:05]	:	excelent
[20:05]	:	[20:04] windyy Lane: question: are animated gif images allowed on the new site?
[20:05]	 	nods
[20:05]	:	Troy asks: My question: Are there plans to for the SL Marketplace to have an affiliate program similar to the Amazon affiliate program? (Affiliate links)
[20:05]	:	no animated gifs are allowed BUT
[20:05]	:	thee will be a link to yotube
[20:06]	:	cool
[20:06]	:	[20:04] Ghosty Kips: What exactly was meant by 'bringing xstreet in line with secondlife.com'?
[20:06]	:	Otome asks: how do we know the design of the new site wont be like 2.0 and drive new members away ?
[20:06]	:	Ghosty, can you provide more info?
[20:06]	:	yeah, looking forward to the youtube thing, hopefully there'll be some kind of marketplace gallery functionality as well... sort of the SL shopping channel
[20:06]	:	uh, thats a quote. one sec ill give you more
[20:07]	:	thanks in the meantime I'll nswer troy's qustion
[20:07]	:	dont wait on my, my com is a little slow :)
[20:07]	:	Will the ANS system still be supported?
[20:07]	:	tell me more what you're thinking troy?
[20:07]	:	[20:07] Talina Juliesse: Okay.. a couple of questions: *will just put them all in one post* 1) With the removal of BB code, will there be a clear location in our postings for SLurls and company logo? 2) will logins be kept across sessions as well as preferences such as allow adult? If not, is there a plan to implement that? 3) Finally will listing and editing items be easier, like bulk editing? Also as it currently works, if I'm working on one item on say page 7, after I save it and go back to editing I end up at page 1.. will this be fixed?
[20:07]	:	any merchant can join
[20:07]	:	[20:07] Rifkin Habsburg: Will the ANS system still be supported?
[20:08]	:	[20:08] Kerhop Seattle: Will merchants get a chance to see what their migrated content looks like before it is publically available? Perhaps with a public/hidden toggle?
[20:08]	:	carpediem /cara let's hold questions til answered
[20:08]	:	one at a time
[20:08]	:	kk
[20:08]	:	feed to meplease
[20:08]	:	holding
[20:08]	:	bulk editing would be nice
[20:08]	:	troy?
[20:08]	:	If someone becomes an Amazon Affiliate, they can link to items on Amazon.com and get paid if someone follows the link from their blog/newspaper/magazine to buy the item on Amazon.com. Everyone wins
[20:09]	 	nods got it troy
[20:09]	:	The cut for the affiliate is typically around 2-4%
[20:09]	:	I'll ask our marketing team. it's a good question.
[20:09]	:	next question
[20:09]	:	who do you foresee paying that affiliate commission, troy?
[20:09]	:	[20:07] Talina Juliesse: Okay.. a couple of questions: *will just put them all in one post* 1) With the removal of BB code, will there be a clear location in our postings for SLurls and company logo? 2) will logins be kept across sessions as well as preferences such as allow adult? If not, is there a plan to implement that? 3) Finally will listing and editing items be easier, like bulk editing? Also as it currently works, if I'm working on one item on say page 7, after I save it and go back to editing I end up at page 1.. will this be fixed?
[20:10]	 	would rather not see the fee structure increase to accommodate
[20:10]	:	yes, there will be a clear location for slurls. at beta there will not be a logo but there will be the picture of the merchant. logins can be kept across sessions. adults preferfence is not in beta but we'll get there.
[20:11]	:	bulk editing may not be in beta, we are trying hard for it but it may slip to just past that.
[20:11]	 	Center S2: Escape Shopping Center S2 @ Heavenly Escape 181, 135, 35 - McChris Flanagan has decided they will not renew their rental.
[20:11]	:	Okay thanks, hopefully those last items will be implemented with the final SL Marketplace.
[20:12]	:	Slip to just past that? You mean be implemented once iut's out of beta?
[20:12]	:	yes I believe listings can be saved inside but I'll need to double check. for all items I can'st answer I will post in the wiki later this week in the Q&A
[20:12]	:	right Castore
[20:12]	:	thanks Talina
[20:12]	:	next question please
[20:12]	:	back to ghostly's question.. Ghosty Kips: T Linden's Blog post says : "Second Life Marketplace Beta (Xstreet Redesign)
This summer will see the beta launch of a redesigned XstreetSL marketplace on a new technical platform. To be known as the SL Marketplace, the beta will feature a new look and feel, more in line with http://www.secondlife.com . More importantly, the SL Marketplace will have many new features for merchants and shoppers alike. The Commerce team is very excited to bring these new capabilities to Residents. For more information, read today's blog post announcing the new marketplace." What is meant by 'more in line with http://www.secondlife.com ?' are they talking technical, or just the look of the existing site
[20:12]	 	Tree : Falling Blossoms OFF
[20:13]	:	thanks Ghostly. as you can see in the new designs we did a much better job of integrating the marketplace with secondlife life. Those who were around last summer saw our, er, um, less than successful attempts to integrate xstreet into that environment.
[20:13]	:	lol
[20:13]	:	can we quote that?
[20:13]	 	hides
[20:13]	:	i was around, I recall that :)
[20:13]	:	lol
[20:13]	:	it's in the transcript. :D
[20:13]	:	[20:06] Otome Exonar: how do we know the design of the new site wont be like 2.0 and drive new members away ?
[20:13]	 	takes screenshot
[20:14]	:	the sample images in the flickr stream should give you an idea of the new site's design, looks pretty clean to me
[20:14]	:	Otome it's normal to have concerns. here's how we're going to mitigate the risks:
[20:15]	:	(btw, thanks for those pink)
[20:15]	:	1. we've done an entirely new way of testing and architecture that ensures a more stable first release (we believe)
[20:15]	:	I think any change will alienate some users... I hope the changes to Xstreet will have a positive effect. The look over the past few years was just so messy :(
[20:15]	:	2. we are rolling very slowly into production. we will start with a small group and go slow
[20:16]	:	3. we will measure as we go
[20:16]	:	[20:07] Rifkin Habsburg: Will the ANS system still be supported?
[20:16]	:	((last major overhaul of SLM/xstreet cost me half my business, and ive witnessed one disaster after another so forgive me if i am a hard sell
[20:16]	 	nods. I just had to take my stuff down.
[20:16]	:	for what it's worth the teams working on this have extensive ecommerce experience and have rolled out other site changes and upgrades at major ecomm companies
[20:17]	:	on a fairly large scale
[20:17]	:	so we have that going for us, as bill murray said so eloquently in caddyshack.
[20:17]	:	lol
[20:17]	:	folks I know like the SL feel/ambience ... they get "web" all the time :)
[20:18]	:	no worries oteme, nothing wrong with being a hard sell, that's just what I know now.
[20:18]	:	ok, next question
[20:18]	:	[20:07] Rifkin Habsburg: Will the ANS system still be supported?
[20:18]	:	ANS? I don't know that TLA
[20:18]	:	;)
[20:18]	:	o.o
[20:18]	:	Automated Notification System
[20:18]	:	THe XStreet Automated Notification System, https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=adminnotifications
[20:18]	:	hm
[20:19]	:	ah I know it as something else internally
[20:19]	 	facepalms
[20:19]	:	thanks
[20:19]	:	had to look it up a sec went blank on what it stool for exactly lol
[20:19]	:	same here
[20:19]	:	stood*
[20:20]	:	ANS is not undergoing an upgrade at beta
[20:21]	:	we holding magic boxes stable so we don't overcomplicate first release
[20:21]	:	changing too many variables at once adds risk.
[20:21]	:	ANS isn't part of the magic box, it's part of the website
[20:21]	:	it's related to it
[20:21]	:	and triggered with it
[20:22]	:	so we'll bring it with us and work on it down the road.
[20:23]	:	next question? unless there's a follow up
[20:23]	:	[20:07] Rya Nitely: I'd like to suggest Store fronts that let you sell under a brand/company names and not only individual names so that partners who create together can sell under one name.
[20:23]	:	Jarnz and I sell very similar items and if they search using my name they won't see his items, which might have what they want, like a rezzer for a boat I sell
[20:24]	:	I hope you got my Q, it's past my bedtime ;)
[20:24]	:	yes Rya, noted. we totally agree and we do have something in our roadmap for this.
[20:24]	:	yes, I'd like to see more info about storefronts when it's available
[20:24]	:	down the road a bit on this one.
[20:24]	:	Maybe this can be looked into with the new Store Fronts
[20:24]	:	it starts with the merchant page and then we can build on that.
[20:25]	:	Rya's question was similar to mine. I would really love a storefront to put all the Hair Fair items at.
[20:25]	:	1 place for events or groups
[20:25]	:	are there any plans, prob far down the pipe, of integrating UA with XStreet for a more branded presentation for creators? ability to use whatever social networking UA will be used for to promote business on XStreet?
[20:26]	:	you mean AU?
[20:26]	:	AU, my bad
[20:26]	:	no worries. short answer yes. I've been talking to that team as we speak
[20:26]	:	one hint, imagine all snapshots in world available automatically drag and drop in marketplace.
[20:27]	:	snapshots in marketplace? not sure i follow that one
[20:27]	:	instead of having to save a picture to your hard drive then upload
[20:27]	:	imagine being able to open a link in line to all your snapshots and just pick the ones you want to use in a listing
[20:27]	:	hey sexy ppl
[20:27]	:	nice
[20:28]	:	ok me stops dreaming now
[20:28]	:	like FB uploading photos lol
[20:28]	:	back to questions at hand
[20:28]	:	[20:08] Kerhop Seattle: Will merchants get a chance to see what their migrated content looks like before it is publically available? Perhaps with a public/hidden toggle?
[20:28]	:	except that the marketplace uses an archaic aspect ratio (please consider changing from 5:4 to 4:3)
[20:28]	:	next question at hand
[20:28]	:	okay Ms. John Lennon :D
[20:28]	:	I suppose ... though most serious merchants bring their images into editors to add pricing, text, embelishment etc first, but it could have a place.
[20:29]	:	anybody feelin freaky???
[20:29]	:	;)
[20:29]	:	or even a merchant-only viewing period
[20:29]	:	/smoke
[20:30]	:	Kerhap, that one I don't know yet. I'll post an answer to wiki when i get it. you win "stump the linden" tonight
[20:30]	:	not the time for that spencer
[20:30]	:	lol
[20:30]	:	do I get a Linden bear? :)
[20:30]	:	lol pink
[20:30]	:	I'm feeling freaky but I bet it's not in the way he means
[20:30]	:	sure Kerhop!
[20:30]	:	lol...im still used to this.. im new as u can tell lol .... anyone care to tutorial me to this
[20:30]	:	can you send me a notecard?
[20:31]	:	ok
[20:31]	:	[20:08] Washu Zebrastripe: (I only read the blog like 2 seconds ago, so I'm sorry if I'm repeating something) I think the storefront idea for merchants is great. Will there be an opportunity to have a group of people on one merchant page? iE: I'd like to create a "Hair Fair" merchant page for the event this summer. Does that Q make any sense? Lol
[20:31]	:	hey sp3ncr, can you hang out for a bit while we talk? then I'm sure someone wouldbe happy to talk to you.
[20:31]	:	Sorry I'm late - has the image aspect ratio been covered?
[20:31]	:	I feel like an airhead lol
[20:31]	:	Washu, that question was covered earlier tonight, short answer is not at beta but it's on our roadmap
[20:31]	:	Do we still need to hit that question, otherwise we have others lol
[20:31]	:	next qustion?
[20:32]	:	[20:21] Talina Juliesse: Given that Xstreet and Inworld are merged financially, will the maximum transaction records be removed? As it stands now, it's a complete mess with having the MKT sale in the transactions without knowing what was sold, giving extra work on trying to keep track.
[20:32]	:	Talina, yes, because we are moving to a brand new transaction system
[20:32]	:	YepI got it
[20:32]	:	and over time we will merge with in world, if I have to lie down in front of a train for it. :)
[20:32]	:	lol im bac.... idk where i went but im back
[20:33]	:	ack! ok it's not THAT critical, but really would be nice to have
[20:33]	:	a noble cause if ever there was one :)
[20:33]	:	ya that would be really great
[20:33]	:	I love databut gosh how hard we make it to use right now.
[20:33]	:	I shoulda brought my neko. she has a train in her inventory
[20:33]	:	ok next?
[20:33]	:	[20:12] Rachel Darling: is there foreign language support in the new XStreet? If so, will it be in beta or later?
[20:33]	:	yes it is, very hard
[20:33]	:	yes we will have localization for beta
[20:34]	:	Talina: The two systems are partially merged, still. I sent Pink my rationale for merging the rest.
[20:34]	:	having that feature is a key reason we are pushing off other features.
[20:34]	:	Or for making them portable between sites, that is.
[20:34]	:	localization is mucho work. but since we are porting content oer it's not as bad as it could be.
[20:34]	:	ooh good.. one big thing to look forward to.
[20:34]	:	glad to hear it. While I speak EnglishI know a lot of residents are outside the US
[20:35]	:	we do too Trilo so we knew we wouldn't put that off
[20:35]	:	ok for languages, perhaps not the most accurate, but it would be nice if it could auto translate perhaps? Obviously wouldn't be 100% accurate but would be nice
[20:35]	:	thanks Cara, note for a future releaes
[20:35]	:	Englishl? apparently I can speak but not type :)
[20:35]	:	next question?
[20:35]	:	Google Translator can already translate any URL you give it
[20:35]	:	lol
[20:35]	:	[20:24] Vextra Messing: My question: Will the aspect ratio of the product images we have on xstreet be retained when items are ported over to the new marketplace?
[20:35]	:	how's the format, by thew ay, not too boring is it?
[20:35]	:	Pink, by localization you mean we can offer multiple translations for a product, correct? Rather than offer our products in one chosen language
[20:35]	:	seems less chaotic then this morning O_o
[20:35]	:	excellent format, a lot less combative than some of the comments this morning :)
[20:35]	:	Bumping the image size question
[20:35]	:	yes, we need a standardizzation of image resolutions badly
[20:36]	:	OH 1 was nutz o.o
[20:36]	:	Vextra, we will convert aspect ratios to 5:4.
[20:36]	:	lol cara
[20:36]	:	it was fun
[20:36]	:	on that note I want to invite those who were not in the afternoon session to a survey. I'll post the link in a second.
[20:36]	:	please, for heavens' sakes consider 4:3 instead
[20:36]	:	so there is no hope for 1:1?
[20:36]	:	Surely will make it look terrible to squash people's images.
[20:36]	:	Maybe images could be letterboxed rather than stretched to get to the 5:4 aspect ratio
[20:37]	:	http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22ALP6KF7QQ
[20:37]	:	im so lost in this world!!! :( /cry
[20:37]	:	this surveyhas a few questions we'd like your input on
[20:37]	:	i agree, 4:3 would make things lots easier on many of us
[20:37]	:	took it last h our
[20:37]	:	?
[20:37]	:	5:4 and 700x560 means you're potentially deleting hundreds of thousands of images, if you stick to 800x600 (4:3) the existing max image size is uchanged
[20:38]	:	and 800x600 is a more standardized proportion
[20:38]	:	thanks guys, keep the feedback coming. we are reading it and considering it as we speak.
[20:38]	:	perhaps keeping the ratio the same as images in world would be a good idea
[20:38]	 	still hopes and wishes for 1:1
[20:38]	:	in world that isn't a size allowed, so why on xstreet?
[20:38]	:	I am not promising a change, but we will consider the cost of the effort, as we know your time is valuable.
[20:39]	:	there was a mention of photo's from inventory being used, those will be wither widescreen or 4:3 typically is what most monitors are
[20:39]	:	Multiple people have said this -- but if you simply limit the scaling of images to the horizontal side, the ratio does not matter. Is that not a consideration?
[20:39]	 	raises her hand to ask what's probably a dumb question
[20:39]	:	it's what XStreet does today
[20:39]	:	Kerhop that's way down the road, we were in imagination moe when dicussing that.
[20:39]	:	mode
[20:39]	:	ah
[20:39]	 	nods at Rachel DArling
[20:40]	 	votes to only scaling to the horizontal side, squashing people's ads is not wise imo
[20:40]	:	agrees
[20:40]	:	I hear you guys loud and clear on coI'll take these comments to the internal meeting we're having this week to discuss this very issue.
[20:41]	:	Letterboxing is where you put black stripes along the sides or the top and bottom, to keep the original aspect ratio the same while fitting it into a 5:4 aspect ratio
[20:41]	:	if you change it hope we have time to adapt, I'm already updating my listings as we speak (literally)
[20:41]	:	Follow-up to my ANS Q: Currently we can verify transactions by sending an HTTP GET to https://www.xstreetsl.com/ans.php. Will that URL remain the same?
[20:41]	:	1:1 would suck for boats
[20:41]	:	understood kerhop.
[20:41]	:	:)
[20:42]	:	Rifkin I'm going to have to follow up. you should be fine for awhile, but once we diredct to marektplace.secondlife.com that may change
[20:42]	:	The iPad has a 4:3 aspect ratio (or 3:4 in portrait orientation)
[20:42]	:	I've got this noted so we can follow up and make sure this is somethign we preserve or find a fix for.
[20:42]	:	next qustion please?
[20:42]	:	Castor Jarman: When did work on the new design begin?
[20:42]	:	Castor, we started in early February
[20:42]	:	we just finished a week ago
[20:42]	:	The image size thing is contentious, I understand you would like it tro be uniform but that doesn't work for a lot of people for a number of reasons
[20:43]	:	Wow... I thought Carp had fallen asleep hehe
[20:43]	:	[20:31] Otome Exonar: question: why are the lindens unwilling to provide a url link option for each listing on the new system?
[20:43]	:	just waiting till pink is ready lol
[20:44]	 	chuckles
[20:44]	:	the images will be consistent so some people will be unhappy
[20:44]	:	no matter what we pick
[20:44]	:	but that said, we nee dto make sure we're not unncessarily burdening you with extra work
[20:44]	:	when will we know this decision?
[20:45]	:	windyy, to be safe sayend of next next week
[20:45]	:	thank you
[20:45]	:	well, thats why the gods invented standardization :)
[20:45]	:	keep your eyes on the merchant wiki
[20:45]	:	Any chance of some web metrics made available for merchants who list on xstreet down the road? can we expect some web data, such as time zone of the purchaser, native language, and other metrics to help merchants tailor their offerings?
[20:45]	:	excellent thanks. that should give us plenty of time to work on listings/images
[20:45]	:	Otome, for now we're looking for consistency but we are giving room for links in the merchant profile and a slurl in the listing
[20:45]	:	there's room for flexibility while still providing standardization, however. We have the technology ;-)
[20:46]	:	please send questions to cara and Carpe
[20:46]	:	sry
[20:46]	:	so we have the queue
[20:46]	:	it's the fairest way
[20:46]	:	it's a good system
[20:46]	:	next question?
[20:46]	:	that was a great nonanswer -_-
[20:46]	:	[20:28] Bitsy Giano: question on current thread of uploading pics from in world I often take pictures that I'm not uploading and paying 10 linden fees for, just to have mulptile photos, will we still have the option of uploading so we don't have to pay to have everything in world, this would up my fees substantially
[20:46]	:	ya i hit enter on impulse, srry bout that
[20:47]	:	Bitsy, just a reminder I was talking WAY down the road.
[20:47]	 	*!* Thalia's Fashion Collection - Chic & Sexy Clothing *!* from A group member named Thalia Tal.
[20:47]	:	there's a lot to work out
[20:47]	:	I don't understand that one, I don't pay fees to upload pics to xstreet/marketplace
[20:47]	:	well it sounds like a nice feature if our old option isn't eliminated
[20:47]	 	nods.
[20:48]	:	if so uploading each build would be much more costly
[20:48]	:	noted. I don't know why we'd charge for making it easier
[20:48]	:	well there is a 10 linden fee to get it in world
[20:48]	:	but again, I'm talking way out so there's time to consider the details down the road.
[20:48]	:	where there isn't from hd is the point
[20:48]	:	we'd need to upload a pic in-world to use it on the marketplace?
[20:48]	:	no way trilobyte
[20:49]	:	now I wish I hadn'st speculated. ;)
[20:49]	:	that's what I thought
[20:49]	:	*phew*
[20:49]	:	it was mentioned as a possible feature down the road to just pick a picture from a magic box or other similar item to use for the product pics
[20:49]	:	snap photo to HD, crop and watermark in photoshop, upload to XSL... L$0
[20:49]	:	That's what Bitsy was referring to in her question.
[20:49]	:	ah ok
[20:50]	:	it was a way to demonstrate how we can do more to tie the web and in world together
[20:50]	:	to make life esaier and more sales
[20:50]	:	sorry, I got confused :)
[20:50]	:	wasn't well worded trying to watch this, and type sorry
[20:50]	:	more sales is always good lol
[20:50]	:	so if we dont get more sales do we get out money back? :P
[20:50]	:	next question?
[20:50]	:	[20:37] Eslam Aljon: When the new marketplace is up aside with the current xstreet, which one we will use to Add/or edit our listengs? or both will be same?
[20:50]	:	well, more sales is good. more web, im skeptical. :)
[20:51]	:	Otome, no but neither do we. :)
[20:51]	:	ditto Ghosty
[20:51]	:	well if we go to a uniform product shot aspect ratio then it'd be possible to do cool random stream stuff using the larger pool of marketplace product shots, for a randomized 'lookbook' by product category, for example
[20:51]	:	Eslam, great question. for now we'd like you to stick with xstreet as source for record
[20:51]	:	when we launch we'll have more information on that
[20:52]	:	we're working on what that plan will be.
[20:52]	:	even when the new marketplace beta is up?
[20:52]	:	let's jump off that bridge when we come to it :)
[20:52]	:	right now we're still working that out Eslam, I don't have any information yet. I know what I'd like to do but I don't want to get anone's hopes up
[20:52]	:	o.o
[20:52]	:	big bonus for all? o/
[20:52]	:	hehe
[20:52]	:	lol
[20:52]	:	lol
[20:53]	:	id like that
[20:53]	:	exactly Trilobye
[20:53]	:	free lindenz for everyyone!
[20:53]	:	I can see the lbog posts now....
[20:53]	:	lol
[20:53]	:	ok, next question?
[20:53]	:	[20:46] Ghosty Kips: Any chance of some web metrics made available for merchants who list on xstreet down the road? can we expect some web data, such as time zone of the purchaser, native language, and other metrics to help merchants tailor their offerings?
[20:53]	:	we're about 10 minutes from end of our time
[20:53]	:	i have 1 left
[20:53]	:	I have 1 left as well currently
[20:53]	:	Ghosty, I want to throw as much data at you guys as we can get. so over time, yes.
[20:54]	:	yay :)
[20:54]	:	o/
[20:54]	:	| Yay!!
[20:54]	:	/
[20:54]	:	woohoo
[20:54]	:	i like that as well
[20:54]	:	as long as it's not identifiable stuff, that's all
[20:54]	:	no ips hehe
[20:54]	:	at beta, I think you will like what you see, but it's a v.1 and there's a lot more to go.
[20:55]	:	next q?
[20:55]	:	or is that it?
[20:55]	:	[20:47] Talina Juliesse: In the merging over to the new marketplace, my understanding is that merchants will gradually be moved over by LL.. will this affect how they are searched on Xstreet while Xstreet is still running? I'm just a bit confused on how it will work. I'm sure Nooooooo! merchant would like to be the first to move to the new marketplace with the risk of not being seen due to the populace using Xstreet.
[20:55]	:	haha your not getting out that easy lol
[20:55]	:	LOL
[20:55]	:	I'm just hoping that it will be tested extensively before merchants are shoved over to the new marketplace. Last thing I think anyone wants is for their listing descriptions to go poof.
[20:55]	 	looks at Rachel. "Data? Did someone say data?"
[20:55]	:	Talna, good qeustion.
[20:55]	:	throwing data at us? doesnt data have anything to say about that? Im against throwing a linden at anyone
[20:55]	:	very good question
[20:56]	 	ducks and runs
[20:56]	:	we are actually testing a great deal with a small group of merchants who are also heavy shoppers, about 100 ppl. then the entire merchant base will come over together.
[20:56]	:	i have 1 left after the one cara just posted :P
[20:56]	:	and we will slowly trickle shoppers in
[20:56]	 	glances over at Cara with a quirked eyebrow as she counts all the 'o's :P
[20:56]	:	so it should be a level playing field for all
[20:56]	:	it's a gesture, what can I say *ducks*
[20:56]	 	laughs
[20:56]	:	lol
[20:57]	:	okay good.. 'cause changes seem to break stuff.. the marketplace is a huge change.. smaller breaks the better. >.>
[20:57]	:	most def
[20:57]	:	taline, I don't want to tempt fate but I have have confidence in this dev team.
[20:57]	 	nods
[20:57]	:	have high confidence I mean
[20:58]	:	and they're working in a new way with test driven processes
[20:58]	:	so if it goes wonky, who can we toss into the fire? lol
[20:58]	:	it's an entirely new system..there will be quirks I'm sure. It kind of goes with the territory unfortunately. We just don't want BIG quirks ;-)
[20:58]	:	customers hate changes too ,even if it is better
[20:58]	:	so w hat we release, will be new but It shouldn't be creaky.
[20:58]	:	Yes they do a lot of times Rya
[20:59]	:	though it is always a good reason for a press release and ramped up marketing to help win them over
[20:59]	:	customers hate changes, but they love additions. more is always looked at better than different.
[20:59]	:	congrats to you and the commerce team on the account balance merge, btw... that was a big thing and it worked well
[20:59]	:	agreed tril
[20:59]	:	i love love love it
[20:59]	:	You know what I didn't see a screenshot of on the Flickr stream is anyting about the search
[20:59]	:	Yes I love it, my sales have gone up since that was done
[20:59]	:	until last week's horrible outage we were riding on a nice wave of increased sales as a result of that
[20:59]	:	Trilobye, thanks, I see Colossus h ere and I want to tell you guys he led that effort
[21:00]	:	ty ty ty ty ty
[21:00]	:	I <3 Colossus
[21:00]	:	well done
[21:00]	:	thank you
[21:00]	:	Thanks Trilo & Cara & Pink :)
[21:00]	:	you can applaud him for it. I seriously was not involvd. :D
[21:00]	:	well my balance does at least lol
[21:00]	:	lol cara
[21:00]	:	yes a larger percentage of my sales seem to be on xstreet lately
[21:00]	:	***** APPPPPPPLLLLAAAUUUSSSSEEEEEEE***********
[21:00]	:	The whole team worked very hard and it's nice to see a large positive affect on sales
[21:00]	:	xstreet balance merge = GOOD
[21:00]	:	+*+*+ WaY tO gOoOoO +*+*+
[21:00]	:	and better sales too
[21:00]	:	Xstreet sales have increased here too
[21:00]	:	yes, the balance merge was a great move
[21:00]	:	very good and I suspect as more people are introduced to the site they will grow even more
[21:01]	:	it does show though that when we make it easy it driv es sales
[21:01]	:	I have 1 question still and I think Carpe has one still too
[21:01]	:	ok guys, last two questions
[21:01]	:	my final question in que atm [20:49] Kerhop Seattle: will referrer information be available to determine how they found our product listing? (i.e. search words, someone's blog, inworld media board, etc)
[21:01]	:	As to the INITIAL merge, I gotta give a high-five and props to the Commerce Team on that one, too.
[21:01]	:	Mr. Pink is giving me the stink eye
[21:01]	:	lol
[21:01]	:	lol
[21:01]	:	lol
[21:01]	:	I'm heading out. laters
[21:01]	:	you need to host the evening sessions live from zeitgeist
[21:02]	:	referrer info is not in beta
[21:02]	:	:/
[21:02]	:	like that trillibyte
[21:02]	:	I'd sy that one's a ways out but it's something that's totally reasonable to ask for.
[21:02]	:	sounds good
[21:03]	:	and the last question?
[21:03]	:	[20:56] BizTutor Magic: Question: After the last session, I sent my question as to Service Merchants rather than Goods Merchants. Will there be any useability by Service Merchants in the new SLM?
[21:03]	 	is going to keep at least one Linden in his XStreet account so the two never combine ;)
[21:03]	:	referrer info would be another great metric, being able to track our advert campaigns is crit stuff
[21:03]	:	Biztutor we are not adding features in beta for servcies but we want to do more to support them. could you send me a note card with your thoughts?
[21:04]	:	Can I add 1 more super fast question? This one should be an easy one.
[21:04]	:	sure cara
[21:04]	:	You bet, Pink. Glad to. :)
[21:04]	:	o/
[21:04]	:	[21:02] MenuBar Memorial: One more - currency exchange is very fast on XStreet - will it be the same on the new marketplace?
[21:04]	 	eyes Mr. Pink warily
[21:04]	:	blow him kisses!
[21:04]	:	he'll lub it
[21:04]	:	give him chocolate
[21:04]	:	yes Cara, we are not making changes as part of the beta.
[21:05]	:	that clears my questions queue
[21:05]	:	mine to
[21:05]	:	im all clear
[21:05]	:	Yahoo empty queue, whew!
[21:05]	:	wow!
[21:05]	:	how did folks like this format?
[21:05]	:	i have one last fast one, if its ok and thre's time, im sorry :p
[21:05]	:	wait just got 7 ims with questions
[21:05]	:	loved it
[21:05]	:	j/k
[21:05]	:	excellent, thanks to everyone.. this session was a lot less bloody :)
[21:05]	:	Good meeting! :-)
[21:05]	 	HTTP requests too fast.
[21:05]	:	lol I could ad one
[21:05]	:	I liked this format
[21:05]	:	LOL
[21:05]	:	it was much slower, but easier to understand overall
[21:05]	:	yes I agree
[21:05]	:	better than voice and text mixed
[21:05]	:	great session
[21:06]	:	last one of the day is usually the best, somehow it's a mellower crowed.
[21:06]	:	huge improvement over OH1 that's for sure
[21:06]	:	moreinfomative instead of all over the place
[21:06]	 	applauds the moderators
[21:06]	:	ya much smoother than the old ones
[21:06]	 	waves, "Thanks for your time Pink. Have a good evening"
[21:06]	:	we're more docile when we're fed and ready for bed
[21:06]	:	yes, special thanks to Cara and CArpeDiem
[21:06]	:	thank you moderators
[21:06]	:	lol
[21:06]	:	:)
[21:06]	:	me too Rachel.
[21:06]	:	ty Lindens for your time
[21:06]	:	? Thank Youuuuuuuuuu!! ?
[21:06]	:	yw!
[21:06]	 	HTTP requests too fast.
[21:06]	:	Thanks for the meeting :)
[21:06]	:	Night all. Thanks.
[21:06]	:	ghosty, what's up?
[21:06]	:	lol argus
[21:06]	:	night Colossus
[21:06]	:	Applauds ?
[21:06]	:	one last one ill maek it fast
[21:06]	:	last one really...
[21:06]	:	Night everyone.
[21:06]	:	night john boy
[21:07]	:	Thanks Pink
[21:07]	:	Thanks again for all the hard work you guys do
[21:07]	:	looking forward to transcripts of first two sessions :)
[21:07]	:	I just quit Facebook beause i am not compfortable wihthaving my dta all over the web. :) I dont want to see SL go this way either. can all this web 2.0 stuff we're headed for remain optional? opt-in? and still sell on xstreet?
[21:07]	:	thanks all for coming, transcripts thursday as I'm OOO tomorrow
[21:08]	:	in other words, cherry pick the bits we like and the bits we dont
[21:08]	:	Ghosty only Avatars sell on Xstreey
[21:08]	:	ghosty I work closely with the team working on that stuff and I promise they want to make sure you get to control privacy
[21:08]	:	pink if you need oh 1 or oh 2 transcripts let us know
[21:08]	:	Cara loged all 3 oh's
[21:08]	:	so did i
[21:08]	:	hange on to 'em carpediem and if I missed anythign I'll let you know
[21:08]	:	kk
[21:08]	:	will do
[21:08]	:	"Goodbye!!"
[21:08]	:	all
[21:08]	:	its a major concern for me, im a big web pricacy advocate. just my thoughts.
[21:09]	:	thanks for all the As to our Qs :)
[21:09]	:	is there anything in the works for xstreet support to be tied to concierge?
[21:09]	:	we are too ghosty, we want to let people control their level of exposure
[21:09]	:	gawd argus lol
[21:09]	:	ty
[21:09]	:	hahahaha
[21:09]	:	at the same time, somep people want to have their rw self in SL so we need to enble that too
[21:09]	:	thanks pink, thats good to hear]
[21:09]	:	ya, im not for limiting, im for choice
[21:09]	:	love the new look, Pink; let me know if you ever need some extra humanoid clothing
[21:10]	:	they gie me an allowance rachel so I'll drop a few $L in your store
[21:10]	:	?
[21:10]	:	ok I am outski
[21:10]	:	I'll see ya later Ghosty especially with a new hot pepper dress for Cinnco de Forumo
[21:10]	:	have a great night everyone
[21:10]	:	I probably need a makeover
[21:10]	:	I want an allowance lol
[21:10]	:	hahaha ok
[21:10]	 	cries...... mommmmyyyyyyyyyyy
[21:10]	:	not as bad as philip though I hope ::snicker:::
[21:10]	:	lol cara
[21:10]	:	I miss those days sometimes lol
[21:10]	:	you could dress like this ang get a cave ;0
[21:10]	:	ok thanks pink, later ppl
[21:11]	:	ngihts all
[21:11]	:	ni ni
[21:11]	:	night
[21:11]	:	Cara: You logged all 3? YOU ROCK!
[21:11]	:	Night
[21:11]	:	heh...no need, Pink. My dresses is your dresses ;-)
[21:11]	:	yeps, just gotta clean em up a bit to remove login/logout messages lol
[21:13]	:	cara I'll take you up on that transcript offer
[21:13]	:	I'm on my home pc and it's acting up
[21:13]	:	ok I'll get those to you in a few minutes then
[21:14]	:	no worries
[21:14]	:	I won't be able to work on em til thursday
[21:14]	:	want to send to me at the office?
[21:14]	:	okies, that's np
[21:14]	:	sure
[21:14]	:	any particular format?
[21:14]	:	and I'll send you a bear
[21:14]	:	o/
[21:14]	:	anything is fine word, text whatever
[21:14]	:	okies that works
[21:14]	:	I have to send bears out en masse
[21:14]	:	hehe
[21:14]	:	big pile from OH 2 for those who got me OH 1s
[21:15]	:	usually meta logs for me my first time trying on my own
[21:15]	:	Pink that would be your hubby slowly pulling on the wifi cord....
[21:15]	:	hehe
[21:15]	:	to the router
[21:15]	:	rofl
[21:15]	:	yes I better go!
[21:15]	:	run!!!
[21:15]	:	blowing kisses as you go
 
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