RC Triage/2007-12-12/Transcript

* [14:56] Bridie Linden: Everyone's armed today?
* [14:57] Alexa Linden: Hi War :)
* [14:57] WarKirby Magojiro: :D
* [14:57] Elle Pollack: eyes the nasty looking saw warily
* [14:57] WarKirby Magojiro: Do we have an agenda for today?
* [14:57] Bridie Linden: wb Daed!
* [14:57] aliceinwire Bleac: hello alexa
* [14:57] Daedalus Young: thanks
* [14:57] aliceinwire Bleac: :)
* [14:57] WarKirby Magojiro: I showed up an hour early, and wondered where everyone was
* [14:57] Bridie Linden: lol
* [14:57] Alexa Linden: Hi Alice :)
* [14:57] Alexa Linden: lol
* [14:58] Alexa Linden: Hi Daed
* [14:58] Alexa Linden: Wyn :D
* [14:58] Wyn Galbraith: Hola all!
* [14:58] Daedalus Young: hi
* [14:58] Daedalus Young: I can't start a Group IM session :/
* [14:58] WarKirby Magojiro: I had that problem earlier, too
* [14:59] Daedalus Young: anyway, it's my rezday today :D
* [14:59] WarKirby Magojiro: yay
* [14:59] WarKirby Magojiro: happy rezday
* [14:59] Daedalus Young: thanks
* [14:59] WarKirby Magojiro: 1 year :D
* [14:59] Wyn Galbraith: Congrats.
* [14:59] WarKirby Magojiro: mine was a few months ago
* [14:59] Alexa Linden: Congrats
* [14:59] Daedalus Young: yep
* [14:59] Bridie Linden: happy rezday, Daedalus!
* [14:59] Daedalus Young: thanks, thanks
* [14:59] Elle Pollack: Three years in October here
* [14:59] aliceinwire Bleac: :D
* [15:00] Alexa Linden: wow! I'll be 4 this month
* [15:00] WarKirby Magojiro: :o
* [15:00] Wyn Galbraith: I'll be 2 next April.
* [15:00] Alexa Linden: :D
* [15:00] WarKirby Magojiro: your account says 2007 >.>
* [15:00] aliceinwire Bleac: lot lag today :)
* [15:00] WarKirby Magojiro: not always a linden ?
* [15:01] aliceinwire Bleac: :)
* [15:01] Bridie Linden: Howdy all!
* [15:01] aliceinwire Bleac: welcome everyone
* [15:01] Wyn Galbraith: Notalwaysa Linden would be a good Linden name
* [15:01] Daedalus Young: lol, we're startig the Linden name game again?
* [15:01] Bridie Linden: We'll be short a few lindens today — competing meetings and RL conflicts...
* [15:01] WarKirby Magojiro: I see
* [15:02] WarKirby Magojiro: hi rob
* [15:02] Daedalus Young: hi Rob
* [15:02] Wyn Galbraith: I may have to pop out soon, depends on if my temp job calls me in for today.
* [15:02] aliceinwire Bleac: no torley today ?
* [15:02] Rob Linden: hi folks
* [15:02] Bridie Linden: No Torley today, but we have a Rob Linden!
* [15:02] aliceinwire Bleac: hello rob
* [15:02] Daedalus Young: and I have green and pink on my shirt
* [15:02] Bridie Linden: Today's agenda: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda
* [15:02] Wyn Galbraith: We have Rob and Bridie and Alexa
* [15:02] Bridie Linden: That's nice Daed!
* [15:02] WarKirby Magojiro: thank you, I was just about to ask for thta
* [15:02] aliceinwire Bleac: aric ?
* [15:03] Bridie Linden: No Aric today either...
* [15:03] aliceinwire Bleac: oh
* [15:03] Bridie Linden: Just the 3 Linden amigos/as today! me, Rob and Alexa...
* [15:03] aliceinwire Bleac: sric is flu right ?
* [15:03] aliceinwire Bleac: aric
* [15:03] Bridie Linden: Shall we start?
* [15:03] WarKirby Magojiro: can we possibly have build and/or scripts on for the duration of the meeting
* [15:03] WarKirby Magojiro: for on-the-spot testing
* [15:03] Daedalus Young: it says it's on for me
* [15:04] Alexa Linden: they are on
* [15:04] Bridie Linden: oh sure, jas
* [15:04] WarKirby Magojiro: oh, so they are
* [15:04] aliceinwire Bleac: :)
* [15:04] Bridie Linden: ty Alexa!
* [15:04] Alexa Linden: np :)
* [15:04] WarKirby Magojiro: weren't when I was here earlier
* [15:04] Daedalus Young: yes, icons don't get updated when it's changed
* [15:04] WarKirby Magojiro: VWR-3624 is up first
* [15:04] Bridie Linden: Remember to click spinning SL logo for URL...
* [15:04] WarKirby Magojiro: an issue from squirrel
* [15:04] WarKirby Magojiro: nods
* [15:05] Bridie Linden: Hi Willy
* [15:05] Squirrel Wood: /ao on
* [15:05] Alexa Linden: Squirrel :D
* [15:05] Willy Baroque: heya
* [15:05] Squirrel Wood: /ao off
* [15:05] Leaving god: mode, level 150
* [15:05] Squirrel Wood: Hellui
* [15:05] Bridie Linden: Harleen notes that "This seems to depend on your grid units,"
* [15:05] Wyn Galbraith: Squirrel!
* [15:05] WarKirby Magojiro: X
* [15:05] Bridie Linden: Hi Squirrel!
* [15:05] WarKirby Magojiro: I'm not able to repro this on the standard 0.5
* [15:06] Squirrel Wood: complains formally about teleport NOT working properly and disconnecting one almost every single TP
* [15:06] Bridie Linden: change to .1
* [15:06] Daedalus Young: and Lex says it's a binary rounding error
* [15:06] WarKirby Magojiro: and I'm pretty sure not aligning on the Z axis is the intended behaviour
* [15:06] Squirrel Wood: grid units and wrong alignment... when you align a prim manually so it snaps to the grid it works perfectly.
* [15:06] Elle Pollack: Squirrel, if you were trying to get in ~ 10 minutes ago, the rolling restart hit here...
* [15:06] aliceinwire Bleac: my car in torley style :P
* [15:07] WarKirby Magojiro: ok
* [15:07] Bridie Linden: Well, shall we import and see if we can take a closer look?
* [15:07] WarKirby Magojiro: confirmed with 0.1
* [15:07] Squirrel Wood: when you use shift-x on a grid unit size of 0.1 it doesn't align properly.
* [15:07] WarKirby Magojiro: But I'd like to add that I like the curent behaviour, of only doing XY
* [15:07] Squirrel Wood: manual works, auto fails
* [15:07] WarKirby Magojiro: I'd really like that to stay, or add a new option for XYZ
* [15:08] WarKirby Magojiro: I'll add that comment there
* [15:08] Bridie Linden: Thx WarKirby
* [15:08] Bridie Linden: Import Alexa, pls?
* [15:08] Alexa Linden: noted
* [15:08] Bridie Linden: Ty
* [15:08] Bridie Linden: Next...
* [15:08] Bridie Linden: VWR-3685 - Votes: 3 - Option to take off underwear and undershirt layer is missing from the pull down and pie menu's on the mac viewer
* [15:08] Alexa Linden: yup
* [15:09] Alexa Linden: I had that in windows yesterday
* [15:09] WarKirby Magojiro: no mac here, so I can't say
* [15:09] Alexa Linden: so I can vouch
* [15:09] WarKirby Magojiro: oh
* [15:09] WarKirby Magojiro: I see
* [15:09] Squirrel Wood: It is there if you click clothes => more => ..
* [15:09] WarKirby Magojiro: I have it
* [15:09] WarKirby Magojiro: I generally use remove all clothes when I'm doing that anyways
* [15:09] Alexa Linden: right,first pants, skirts, shoes, then more
* [15:09] Daedalus Young: Matthew notes it's because the check if you're on TG is done at the wrong time
* [15:09] Alexa Linden: underpants, tops and all
* [15:10] Alexa Linden: there was only the one choice on that second pie
* [15:10] WarKirby Magojiro: heh
* [15:10] Wyn Galbraith: Missing for me too.
* [15:10] WarKirby Magojiro: teengrid can't remove underwear ?
* [15:10] aliceinwire Bleac: or replace
* [15:10] Wyn Galbraith: LOL
* [15:10] aliceinwire Bleac: with another
* [15:10] Alexa Linden: LOL
* [15:10] Alexa Linden: toofunny
* [15:10] Bridie Linden: Import? I don't think we meant to remove this (so to speak)
* [15:10] Wyn Galbraith: You're kidding correct?
* [15:11] WarKirby Magojiro: seems like a rather pointless restriction
* [15:11] Daedalus Young: as I've heard, teens indeed can't take off their undies
* [15:11] Wyn Galbraith: makes sure she has underware on.
* [15:11] Bridie Linden: :O
* [15:11] Alexa Linden: O.o
* [15:11] WarKirby Magojiro: all it takes is skin colored pants
* [15:11] WarKirby Magojiro: and it's pretty irrelevant
* [15:11] Alexa Linden: hahahaha
* [15:11] Bridie Linden: Moving right along...
* [15:11] Daedalus Young: and matching attachments
* [15:11] Wyn Galbraith: That's as bad as having a ken doll.
* [15:11] Alexa Linden: lol
* [15:11] Bridie Linden: Next up...
* [15:11] Bridie Linden: VWR-3667 - Votes: 1 - About Land > Access: On group owned land, group owner gets eject message when "Public Access" is unchecked.
* [15:12] Entering god: mode, level 150
* [15:12] WarKirby Magojiro: this seems odd
* [15:12] aliceinwire Bleac: yep
* [15:12] Elle Pollack: turns on sound beacons and peers out into the night >,<
* [15:12] WarKirby Magojiro: I think the group owner should generally be allowed on their own land
* [15:13] aliceinwire Bleac: i agree
* [15:13] WarKirby Magojiro: it works that way for a sole owner
* [15:13] WarKirby Magojiro: I'd vote to import and fix
* [15:14] aliceinwire Bleac: if you are the owner is because you want have access to own land
* [15:14] WarKirby Magojiro: assuming there are no problems with doing so
* [15:14] Bridie Linden: hmms
* [15:14] Alexa Linden: it may be how the person it trying to get to the land
* [15:14] Alexa Linden: landmark
* [15:14] Alexa Linden: versus using the mapping
* [15:15] WarKirby Magojiro: I don't think so
* [15:15] WarKirby Magojiro: in this case, it seems the owner is already on the land#
* [15:15] Bridie Linden: Let's import and check w/Steve an company
* [15:15] WarKirby Magojiro: and they get ejected from their own land
* [15:15] Alexa Linden: ok
* [15:15] aliceinwire Bleac: ok
* [15:15] Daedalus Young: so if an estate owner'd do this on his island and gets ejected, he'll never get in anymore?
* [15:16] aliceinwire Bleac: O_o
* [15:16] Bridie Linden: I'm not sure -- worth investigating!
* [15:16] WarKirby Magojiro: shall we move on?
* [15:16] Bridie Linden: Yes, next...
* [15:16] Bridie Linden: VWR-3789 - Votes: 1 - It is still possible for an non-age verified account to view, interact with, purchase content in a restricted parcel
* [15:16] WarKirby Magojiro: This can only really be fixed with implementing a certain feature
* [15:16] Squirrel Wood: someone didn't get that its still in beta testing ?
* [15:16] aliceinwire Bleac: i think for a test period yes
* [15:17] Daedalus Young: same is true for otherwise restricted parcels, btw
* [15:17] aliceinwire Bleac: where we are sure to cover all the country we can do this
* [15:17] WarKirby Magojiro: Which would be 
* [15:17] aliceinwire Bleac: but for now i think no
* [15:17] WarKirby Magojiro: The only way to prevent interaction wityh things in a parcel, is to not send that data to the user
* [15:17] WarKirby Magojiro: it would make restricting actually mean something
* [15:18] WarKirby Magojiro: at present, people can cam into age restricted parcels, buy things from vendors, watch things they shouldn't see, etc
* [15:18] Daedalus Young: render a huge black block instead
* [15:18] WarKirby Magojiro: render nothing, period
* [15:18] Alexa Linden: yup
* [15:18] WarKirby Magojiro: send no data to the client, and have it render a blank parcel
* [15:18] WarKirby Magojiro: it's a commonly demanded feature for personal use
* [15:18] aliceinwire Bleac: yes and if there is country that cannot be veridied?
* [15:18] aliceinwire Bleac: verified
* [15:19] aliceinwire Bleac: what they have to do ?
* [15:19] WarKirby Magojiro: and it's pretty much a necessity to make age restriction workable
* [15:19] Bridie Linden: so make 3789 a dupe of SVC-599?
* [15:19] Daedalus Young: and a resident that doesn't trust the verification company
* [15:19] WarKirby Magojiro: I'd say related
* [15:19] WarKirby Magojiro: not dupe
* [15:19] Bridie Linden: yeah, related
* [15:19] Bridie Linden: sorry
* [15:19] Elle Pollack: I would do "relates to" instead of a dupe, yeah
* [15:19] WarKirby Magojiro: 3789 is a problem, 599 is a solution
* [15:19] aliceinwire Bleac: i agree
* [15:19] WarKirby Magojiro: originally intended for a seperate problem, but which would be applicable here
* [15:19] Bridie Linden: nods
* [15:20] Bridie Linden: Ok, Next up...
* [15:20] Bridie Linden: VWR-3672 - Votes: 1 - Mouse position for Log-in screen is incorrect on 2560 x 1600 display making log-in difficult
* [15:20] Squirrel Wood: Age Verification Failed - AGAIN
* [15:20] aliceinwire Bleac: me too
* [15:20] aliceinwire Bleac: for some country is impossibile
* [15:20] aliceinwire Bleac: come in this restric area
* [15:21] Daedalus Young: is that card powerful enough to get decent fps at that screen size? I want that too then!
* [15:21] WarKirby Magojiro: 2560x1600
* [15:21] Elle Pollack: Squirel, Alice, find the data of a dead celeberty....*ducks*
* [15:21] aliceinwire Bleac: for the beta test period i hope :)
* [15:21] WarKirby Magojiro: I'm stuck with a measly 1280x1024
* [15:21] aliceinwire Bleac: lol elle
* [15:21] Daedalus Young: tupac shakur works great, I heard
* [15:21] Daedalus Young: anyway
* [15:21] WarKirby Magojiro: someone else reported the same problem, with the same card
* [15:22] WarKirby Magojiro: looks worth importing
* [15:22] aliceinwire Bleac: more information
* [15:22] Bridie Linden: nods
* [15:22] Bridie Linden: Let's import it
* [15:22] aliceinwire Bleac: we need more information
* [15:22] Alexa Linden: noted
* [15:22] WarKirby Magojiro: 8800 GTX
* [15:22] Bridie Linden: Next...
* [15:22] Bridie Linden: VWR-3687 - Votes: 1 - Preference settings not remembered; need to re-set all upon re-log
* [15:22] WarKirby Magojiro: why is more info needed?
* [15:22] Jira URL-er: v1.2: Invalid format
* [15:22] Squirrel Wood: According to the latest Steam hardware survey quite a lot of people do already call a nvidia 8800 their own
* [15:23] aliceinwire Bleac: the fps
* [15:23] WarKirby Magojiro: That author set this one a showstopper, strangfely
* [15:23] Bridie Linden: Has anyone repro'd this one?
* [15:24] WarKirby Magojiro: I reduced the priority to a more reasonable level. sounds inconvenient, but it's not going to destroy the world
* [15:24] aliceinwire Bleac: reinstall
* [15:24] Wyn Galbraith: Stops his show.
* [15:24] aliceinwire Bleac: i was the same problem
* [15:24] aliceinwire Bleac: because i have installed two client
* [15:24] aliceinwire Bleac: i have reinstall and all is gone good
* [15:24] WarKirby Magojiro: hmm
* [15:24] Bridie Linden: which prefs aren't saved? all?
* [15:25] WarKirby Magojiro: My media prefs are saved, at least
* [15:25] Bridie Linden: Need more info?
* [15:25] WarKirby Magojiro: nods
* [15:25] Alexa Linden: ok
* [15:25] Bridie Linden: ty
* [15:25] Bridie Linden: Next
* [15:25] Bridie Linden: VWR-3794 - Votes: 1 - newview/files.lst: separate out llappviewer*.cpp dependencies into files.platform.lst
* [15:25] aliceinwire Bleac: yes all
* [15:26] aliceinwire Bleac: also the login info
* [15:26] Bridie Linden: Make sense Rob?
* [15:26] Rob Linden: yeah (sorry, multitasking)
* [15:27] Bridie Linden: Import away Alexa!
* [15:27] Bridie Linden: Assign to Robl
* [15:27] Bridie Linden: :)
* [15:27] Alexa Linden: lol
* [15:27] Alexa Linden: k
* [15:27] WarKirby Magojiro: VWR-3805 next
* [15:27] aliceinwire Bleac: bridie i remember
* [15:27] Wyn Galbraith: LOL
* [15:27] aliceinwire Bleac: also the setting of client and server
* [15:27] WarKirby Magojiro: unable # VWR-3805 - Votes: 0 - Unable to attach clothing items after SL blog states issue resolved - Danger Lytton
* [15:27] aliceinwire Bleac: like in a client i have setting not to play typing animation
* [15:27] Daedalus Young: closed as misfiled
* [15:27] Alexa Linden: I posted on this one
* [15:27] Alexa Linden: to open a support ticket
* [15:27] aliceinwire Bleac: but in the other client i have to remake the setting all time i log on
* [15:28] Wyn Galbraith: Works for me.
* [15:28] Alexa Linden: just did that before the meeting
* [15:28] WarKirby Magojiro: ok next
* [15:28] WarKirby Magojiro: # VWR-3694 - Votes: 0 - IMs received whilst off line are displayed jumbled, and not in chronological order - Milla Michinaga
* [15:28] aliceinwire Bleac: llag
* [15:28] aliceinwire Bleac: lag
* [15:28] aliceinwire Bleac: can happen when you write something with lag
* [15:28] Squirrel Wood: IMs generally have to be expected to arrive out of order
* [15:28] WarKirby Magojiro: wgt
* [15:29] WarKirby Magojiro: ]never been a problem for me, personally
* [15:29] aliceinwire Bleac: sometime come out twhat you write in a non chronological order
* [15:29] Bridie Linden: lol
* [15:29] Daedalus Young: how are they "jumbled"?
* [15:29] Sheet Spotter: I've never understood which timezone was used when the offline ones show up.
* [15:29] aliceinwire Bleac: can happen more often in the group
* [15:29] aliceinwire Bleac: with many people
* [15:29] Bridie Linden: Not sure VWR-3694 is very actionable...
* [15:30] Elle Pollack: Either not a bug or needs more info I guess
* [15:30] aliceinwire Bleac: not a bug
* [15:30] Daedalus Young: at least needs more info on when it happens, and how and if there's repro steps
* [15:30] aliceinwire Bleac: only a return not synchronized
* [15:30] Bridie Linden: It alerts us toa problem, but yeah, Daed, need more info...
* [15:30] WarKirby Magojiro: I wonder why she created so many duplicates
* [15:30] Daedalus Young: prob slowish JIRA
* [15:30] WarKirby Magojiro: maybe she has connection issues, which may also cause this issue
* [15:30] Bridie Linden: nods
* [15:30] aliceinwire Bleac: yes
* [15:30] Wyn Galbraith: Lag most likely.
* [15:31] aliceinwire Bleac: ci agree
* [15:31] Kerry Giha: Could have been sent all jumbled
* [15:31] Wyn Galbraith: LOL
* [15:31] WarKirby Magojiro: shall we move on, then /
* [15:31] aliceinwire Bleac: the first phrase is more lagge d of the second
* [15:31] Bridie Linden: Yup
* [15:31] Bridie Linden: next
* [15:31] Bridie Linden: VWR-3702 - Votes: 0 - Marking text hand browser
* [15:31] WarKirby Magojiro: resolve needs more info, pending an actual description, perhaps
* [15:31] Elle Pollack: I just fixed the title typo on that, it's "hangs"
* [15:32] Daedalus Young: oh I see!
* [15:32] Daedalus Young: but haven't seen the issue
* [15:33] Daedalus Young: might be a linuxian issue
* [15:33] Elle Pollack: There's enough info there to test it I think
* [15:33] Bridie Linden: Import?
* [15:34] Rob Linden: I'll ask for more info
* [15:34] Bridie Linden: nods
* [15:34] Multi Gadget: v1.52.0 by Timeless Prototype
* [15:34] Elle Pollack: I don't think it's a needs more info, it just needs more people to verify it can be reproed
* [15:34] Alexa Linden: ok - I'll ask for what we need
* [15:34] WarKirby Magojiro: arg, sorry. Accidentally closed viewer
* [15:34] Daedalus Young: wb WK
* [15:35] Alexa Linden: lol
* [15:35] WarKirby Magojiro: but I tested that issue, unable to repro
* [15:35] Alexa Linden: same
* [15:35] Alexa Linden: this came up in Mondays triage I think
* [15:35] Elle Pollack: Can't Reproduce then?
* [15:35] Alexa Linden: I couldn't
* [15:35] Bridie Linden: linux?
* [15:35] Daedalus Young: well, maybe Linux can repro
* [15:36] Daedalus Young: umm... Linux Linden... :|
* [15:36] Bridie Linden: lol
* [15:36] Bridie Linden: ok, next?
* [15:36] Wyn Galbraith: Good one.
* [15:36] Bridie Linden: VWR-3799 - Votes: 0 - 1.18.6 Logon screen takes too long to finish loading.
* [15:36] WarKirby Magojiro: # VWR-3799 - Votes: 0 - 1.18.6 Logon screen takes too long to finish loading. - Fluf Fredriksson
* [15:37] WarKirby Magojiro: I haven't seen delays THAT extreme, but it does take annoyingly long to load
* [15:37] Daedalus Young: I usually just hit enter on the login screen, don't wait for stuff to load
* [15:37] Sheet Spotter: I always assumed that was delays loading the web page.
* [15:37] Alexa Linden: same Daed
* [15:37] Bridie Linden: I doubt that it's client side...
* [15:37] Daedalus Young: I did notice the bg image coming in slowly at times
* [15:38] aliceinwire Bleac: maybe if we have try to login on the restart
* [15:38] aliceinwire Bleac: he
* [15:38] WarKirby Magojiro: import and see if anything can be done?
* [15:38] aliceinwire Bleac: *
* [15:38] Wyn Galbraith: Always loads slowly for me.
* [15:38] Alexa Linden: ok
* [15:38] Bridie Linden: nods
* [15:38] Wyn Galbraith: sometimes logs in before it loads.
* [15:38] Bridie Linden: Next
* [15:38] Bridie Linden: VWR-3737 - Votes: 0 - gstreamer fails to show videos on linux standalone builds
* [15:39] WarKirby Magojiro: ......
* [15:39] aliceinwire Bleac: ...
* [15:39] Daedalus Young: that's why on the TG... you know
* [15:39] Alexa Linden: taking care of
* [15:39] WarKirby Magojiro: feels sorry for wyn
* [15:39] aliceinwire Bleac: :(
* [15:39] Elle Pollack: Linux gets to use something that's not quicktime for videos? :(
* [15:39] Alexa Linden: hahahaha
* [15:39] Wyn Galbraith: Sillies.
* [15:40] Daedalus Young: ooh, that looked like Alexa's Death Ray
* [15:40] Alexa Linden: ;)
* [15:40] WarKirby Magojiro: what did you do, alexa ?
* [15:40] Alexa Linden: bunneh ray of death
* [15:40] Daedalus Young: lol
* [15:40] Bridie Linden: Don't make her angry...
* [15:40] Wyn Galbraith: wants to tickle Kerry's cute feet.
* [15:40] aliceinwire Bleac: maybe reinstall the gstream application
* [15:40] Daedalus Young: curseth be thy avatar
* [15:40] Kerry Giha: :)
* [15:40] Bridie Linden: Rob on 3737?
* [15:40] Bridie Linden: IMport?
* [15:41] Rob Linden: yup
* [15:41] Bridie Linden: Ok -
* [15:41] Bridie Linden: VWR-3787 - Votes: 0 - Meta-Issue: Age Verification Control Design Flaws
* [15:41] Alexa Linden: noted
* [15:41] Daedalus Young: is a meta issue
* [15:42] WarKirby Magojiro: have the related issues been looked at ?
* [15:42] Daedalus Young: one we just did
* [15:42] Wyn Galbraith: I thought they weren't in yet.
* [15:42] Daedalus Young: 3789
* [15:42] aliceinwire Bleac: i agree daed
* [15:43] Daedalus Young: and I'm seeing 3786 in the queue.. queiuo.. no wait... quioo
* [15:43] WarKirby Magojiro: that sounds like a problem
* [15:43] WarKirby Magojiro: I've always wondered why things stop so short
* [15:43] Elle Pollack: 3788 is a feature request
* [15:44] WarKirby Magojiro: oh, sorry. I'm looking at 3786
* [15:44] WarKirby Magojiro: I forgot we weren't all on that
* [15:44] Daedalus Young: 3786, again also applies for other types of restrictions
* [15:44] Bridie Linden: I'd recommend we move on from these age verif issues...
* [15:45] WarKirby Magojiro: ok
* [15:45] aliceinwire Bleac: k
* [15:45] Squirrel Wood: Boot to the head ^^
* [15:45] WarKirby Magojiro: When will they be discussed ?
* [15:45] WarKirby Magojiro: oh, VWR-3786 IS next
* [15:46] Bridie Linden: Sorry - I just want to be sure the 'right' folks are here...
* [15:46] Bridie Linden: I'll see if we can round up some other Lindens and put on an upcoming agenda
* [15:46] WarKirby Magojiro: I see
* [15:46] Rob Linden: this is about determining whether the 1.18.6 viewer is ready to move out of RC
* [15:46] Bridie Linden: either mine or Aric's
* [15:46] WarKirby Magojiro: sounds like a good idea
* [15:46] WarKirby Magojiro: then moving on
* [15:46] Bridie Linden: VWR-3782 - Votes: 0 - Search results not preserved on open/close
* [15:47] aliceinwire Bleac: clear cache
* [15:47] WarKirby Magojiro: # VWR-3782 - Votes: 0 - Search results not preserved on open/close - Lee Ludd
* [15:47] Bridie Linden: Apologies, I should have looked through agenda more closely before hand.
* [15:47] aliceinwire Bleac: clear cache
* [15:47] aliceinwire Bleac: can be a cache proble
* [15:47] WarKirby Magojiro: wonders if anyone made a Ned Ludd avatar. :O
* [15:47] aliceinwire Bleac: and clean also the texture
* [15:47] Alexa Linden: tested - all results still there
* [15:47] WarKirby Magojiro: yep, heh
* [15:47] aliceinwire Bleac: and for better result reinstall
* [15:47] Squirrel Wood: results persist for me too
* [15:47] Kerry Giha: Pet
* [15:47] Daedalus Young: you can use the New Search to try and find Ned, WK ;)
* [15:47] Kerry Giha: yep
* [15:48] Bridie Linden: Can't repro?
* [15:48] WarKirby Magojiro: and it's a bot. How ironic :)
* [15:48] Alexa Linden: nope
* [15:48] aliceinwire Bleac: no
* [15:48] Daedalus Young: bots usually have the best names
* [15:48] Kerry Giha: My search results persist
* [15:48] aliceinwire Bleac: me too
* [15:48] Bridie Linden: Thx for testing all
* [15:48] Bridie Linden: NExt
* [15:48] Bridie Linden: VWR-3731 - Votes: 0 - Camera and movement controls are displayed on the login screen of slviewer v1.18.6.0RC
* [15:49] Squirrel Wood: that can happen when login fails past a certain point
* [15:49] WarKirby Magojiro: I don't use these personally,
* [15:49] Squirrel Wood: and then returns you to the login screen with the ui partially loaded
* [15:49] aliceinwire Bleac: i agree squirrel
* [15:49] WarKirby Magojiro: seems to indicate it happens if they';re left open on logoff
* [15:49] Bridie Linden: Let's import and have QA try it
* [15:49] Alexa Linden: ok
* [15:50] Squirrel Wood: they need to exit SL properly through a client crash ;)
* [15:50] aliceinwire Bleac: k
* [15:50] Bridie Linden: Next
* [15:50] aliceinwire Bleac: yeah
* [15:50] Bridie Linden: VWR-3730 - Votes: 0 - memory leak
* [15:50] WarKirby Magojiro: # VWR-3730 - Votes: 0 - memory leak - aaron23 decuir
* [15:50] Daedalus Young: hmm
* [15:50] Bridie Linden: yeah
* [15:50] Konrad Drevnerussky: Hey!
* [15:50] Elle Pollack: Paging Nicolaz, paging Nicolaz...
* [15:50] Daedalus Young: hi
* [15:50] WarKirby Magojiro: this is pretty vague and un-actionable
* [15:51] Bridie Linden: Needs more info or can't repro
* [15:51] aliceinwire Bleac: the last office hours there is the same problem but on linux
* [15:51] aliceinwire Bleac: no repro
* [15:51] Alexa Linden: agrees
* [15:51] WarKirby Magojiro: windlight was just over 1Gb for me the other day
* [15:51] WarKirby Magojiro: probably a lot more than jsut one issue
* [15:51] Bridie Linden: Ok, next...
* [15:51] Bridie Linden: VWR-3682 - Votes: 0 - Ban and access limits no longer showing -
* [15:51] Squirrel Wood: Nicholaz posted something nice on his blog lately.... 
* [15:52] Squirrel Wood: ban and access info certainly do not show for anyone not owning a parcel or sim...
* [15:52] WarKirby Magojiro: I wonder why
* [15:52] WarKirby Magojiro: that#s a useful thing
* [15:52] aliceinwire Bleac: :)
* [15:52] WarKirby Magojiro: I'd say re-implement it
* [15:52] aliceinwire Bleac: you can see it wae
* [15:52] WarKirby Magojiro: possible even x of 300
* [15:52] aliceinwire Bleac: war
* [15:52] Squirrel Wood: yes. it would be quite helpful to know whom to talk to for access ^^
* [15:52] aliceinwire Bleac: ctrl + d
* [15:53] Bridie Linden: WarKirby want to comment
* [15:53] aliceinwire Bleac: view admin option
* [15:53] aliceinwire Bleac: and you see the ban list
* [15:53] aliceinwire Bleac: also if you are not the owner
* [15:53] Jason Swain: @Squirrels commment, I have to admit if Nicholaz fixes that bug it would make a very large improvement for my SL usage
* [15:53] Leaving god: mode, level 150
* [15:53] Squirrel Wood: Also would be nice if you could get owner / group info on sims that don't allow anyone but group/owner in and are isolated.
* [15:53] WarKirby Magojiro: I can see the ban list. That's not ht eissue
* [15:53] WarKirby Magojiro: the problem is that it no longer shows the (max 300)
* [15:53] Bridie Linden: it's there as a hover tip
* [15:54] WarKirby Magojiro: but it apparently does in a hovertip
* [15:54] WarKirby Magojiro: that's unintuitive, I think
* [15:54] Daedalus Young: I agree
* [15:54] Bridie Linden: How important is this?
* [15:54] WarKirby Magojiro: and there's no shortage of screenspace there to add it inline
* [15:54] Alexa Linden: to?
* [15:54] Daedalus Young: and I don't think it'll cost anything to just have it shown
* [15:54] WarKirby Magojiro: beside the Banned Residents text
* [15:54] WarKirby Magojiro: it could say Banned Residents (2 of 300)
* [15:55] Daedalus Young: yes, easy to understand and informative
* [15:55] Bridie Linden: Import, hopefully a quick fix!
* [15:55] aliceinwire Bleac: if you ban 300 resident
* [15:55] aliceinwire Bleac: is better make a access list :P
* [15:55] Alexa Linden: noted
* [15:55] Bridie Linden: and finally
* [15:55] Bridie Linden: VWR-3766 - Votes: 0 - llGetInventoryNumber tooltip missing INVENTORY_ANIMATION
* [15:55] Sheet Spotter: INVENTORY_GESTURE is also missing from the list.
* [15:55] Daedalus Young: you get a bonus with 300 banned avs
* [15:55] Sheet Spotter: Static text from the LLScriptLibrary::init method in lscript_library.cpp needs to be updated.
* [15:56] WarKirby Magojiro: that's a pretty simple fix, then
* [15:56] aliceinwire Bleac: lol daed
* [15:56] Squirrel Wood: wow. finished early ^^
* [15:56] Bridie Linden: nods
* [15:56] aliceinwire Bleac: yep i agree war
* [15:56] Bridie Linden: import
* [15:56] Alexa Linden: k
* [15:56] Bridie Linden: w00t!
* [15:56] aliceinwire Bleac: WooT
* [15:56] Bridie Linden: Thanks everyone!
* [15:56] aliceinwire Bleac: thank you bridie :)
* [15:56] Wyn Galbraith: Thank you.
* [15:56] Jason Swain: Thanks Bridie
* [15:57] Daedalus Young: thank you too
* [15:57] Object: Hello,: Avatar!
* [15:57] Alexa Linden: thanks all!
* [15:57] Bridie Linden: np!
* [15:57] aliceinwire Bleac: i like your scooter :P