Beta server office hours/Minutes/2018-10-11

[2018/10/11 15:06] arton Rotaru: I had to update the viewer, so I'm a bit late
[2018/10/11 15:07] Rex Cronon: we can declare this : card game day and play 21;)
[2018/10/11 15:07] Rex Cronon: hi arton
[2018/10/11 15:07] arton Rotaru: Gunaaaabend
[2018/10/11 15:07] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): let's get started
[2018/10/11 15:07] Nal (nalates.urriah): k
[2018/10/11 15:08] Rex Cronon: people must have updated their win10 and got sl deleted:)
[2018/10/11 15:08] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): no updates to Second Life Server last Tuesday, and also there won't be updates next week
[2018/10/11 15:08] Mazidox Linden: We've got a new RC coming out though
[2018/10/11 15:08] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): but for wednesday we have planned to release DRTSIM-390 on all RC channels
[2018/10/11 15:08] Mazidox Linden: DRTSIM-390, chock full of - you guessed it! - internal fixes
[2018/10/11 15:09] Nal (nalates.urriah): O.O SHocking
[2018/10/11 15:09] arton Rotaru: close to build number 400 now
[2018/10/11 15:09] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): what is associated with 400?
[2018/10/11 15:09] Rex Cronon: u should clebrate when u get to 9001 build:)
[2018/10/11 15:10] Mazidox Linden: I think in this case the actual number of internal fixes is like... 3. But they're each relatively meaty to test.
[2018/10/11 15:10] Rex Cronon: how long it takes u guys to compile viewer?
[2018/10/11 15:10] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): i am not sure
[2018/10/11 15:11] Nal (nalates.urriah): Are these performance things, security things...?
[2018/10/11 15:11] Rex Cronon: internal stuff. could be anything
[2018/10/11 15:11] Mazidox Linden: Indeed Rex, internal fixes is "we can't be more specific, and we can't be more specific about why we can't be more specific".
[2018/10/11 15:12] Nal (nalates.urriah): That sort of narrows it...
[2018/10/11 15:12] arton Rotaru: I got disconnected
[2018/10/11 15:12] Rex Cronon: u r so specific:)
[2018/10/11 15:12] Mazidox Linden: Welcome back arton.
[2018/10/11 15:12] Rex Cronon: wb
[2018/10/11 15:12] arton Rotaru: thx
[2018/10/11 15:12] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): gunnabend again
[2018/10/11 15:12] arton Rotaru: lol
[2018/10/11 15:14] Rex Cronon: is the new viewer. it likes to live in a disconnected state:)
[2018/10/11 15:14] arton Rotaru: hopefully not
[2018/10/11 15:14] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): new production viewer?
[2018/10/11 15:14] Mazidox Linden: Nalates, internal fixes in general runs the gamut from security, to performance, to the backend systems that make everything hum along (think hamsters), to our build processes and more besides. It's a lot of stuff that we can't talk about because it's not open source and we're not server devs.
[2018/10/11 15:14] arton Rotaru: 5.1.10.520444
[2018/10/11 15:15] arton Rotaru: it's the Maintenance
[2018/10/11 15:15] Nal (nalates.urriah): So, it generally excludes things like BoM, Animesh, and stuff you are already talking about?
[2018/10/11 15:16] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): yeah,that's the other set and user visible
[2018/10/11 15:16] Nal (nalates.urriah): Do you know anything about the fix for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-225380
[2018/10/11 15:17] Mazidox Linden: Yeah, although occasionally we'll do pre-release changes to make the user-visible feature work right, and we won't generally go into how that works, or if we do it'll be fairly high level.
[2018/10/11 15:17] Nal (nalates.urriah): Hi-level is good...
[2018/10/11 15:17] Mazidox Linden: Innnnnnnteresting.
[2018/10/11 15:17] Mazidox Linden: I wonder if that's a web problem or a server problem or a tooling problem.
[2018/10/11 15:18] arton Rotaru: I can't remeber when the Map did work right for me
[2018/10/11 15:18] Nal (nalates.urriah): I think web. The realted pain point for me is https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-216320
[2018/10/11 15:19] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): it sounds like web. i havent heard anything new about it yet
[2018/10/11 15:19] Mazidox Linden: It's been triaged and assigned to web, so they've got it on their backlog.
[2018/10/11 15:19] Nal (nalates.urriah): Thanks... I'll know who to chase with my tar and pillow. :)
[2018/10/11 15:20] Mazidox Linden: Might bring it up at the Web User Group?
[2018/10/11 15:20] Rex Cronon: there is a web user group?
[2018/10/11 15:20] Nal (nalates.urriah): If I can make it through the metal detector...
[2018/10/11 15:20] arton Rotaru: lol
[2018/10/11 15:20] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): metal detector doesn't detect tar and feather
[2018/10/11 15:20] Mazidox Linden: 216320 I can't talk more in depth about, because I'm not a subject matter expert. I'll see if I can find out what's going on with it from someone who is but (as always) no promises.
[2018/10/11 15:21] Mazidox Linden: It does detect spraycans though :(
[2018/10/11 15:21] arton Rotaru: and Dumbells
[2018/10/11 15:21] Nal (nalates.urriah): Aaw.. poor Maz. File a discrimination suit.
[2018/10/11 15:21] Mazidox Linden: The problem is that the courthouse has a metal detector too Nalates.
[2018/10/11 15:22] Nal (nalates.urriah): The tar and feather are good. It is the shovel I use for the tar that is the problem.
[2018/10/11 15:22] Rex Cronon: u know. would be kind of hard for lindens to code while covered in tar an feathers...
[2018/10/11 15:22] Nal (nalates.urriah): Oooh, that is a problem... file online
[2018/10/11 15:22] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): file a jira
[2018/10/11 15:23] Nal (nalates.urriah): Rex... but it sticks them to their chair.
[2018/10/11 15:23] Rex Cronon: take a picture of the jira have it printed on a cake and send to ll:)
[2018/10/11 15:24] Mazidox Linden: Rex: https://community.secondlife.com/forums/topic/423233-all-the-governors-horses-and-all-the-lindens/?do=findComment&comment=1757854
[2018/10/11 15:26] Rex Cronon: .
[2018/10/11 15:26] Mazidox Linden: .
[2018/10/11 15:27] arton Rotaru: I was about to do the same Rex ^^
[2018/10/11 15:27] arton Rotaru: .
[2018/10/11 15:27] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): anyway, you guys have any more questions or concerns?
[2018/10/11 15:27] Nal (nalates.urriah): Not me. I'm happy
[2018/10/11 15:27] arton Rotaru: me too
[2018/10/11 15:27] Rex Cronon: lol. my internet pipe is too small. sl viewer doesn't like to share it with my browser
[2018/10/11 15:28] Rex Cronon: none here 4 now
[2018/10/11 15:28] Second Life: <nolink>Pitcher of Beer ~ Touch for a drink ! owned by Caleb Linden</nolink> gave you <nolink>'Glass of Beer ( wear )</nolink>' ( http://slurl.com/secondlife/Morris/191/193/33 ).
[2018/10/11 15:28] arton Rotaru: Rex is on a 56k
[2018/10/11 15:28] Glass of Beer ( wear ): whispers: MMMmmmm Ice Cold Beer !
[2018/10/11 15:29] Glass of Beer ( wear ): whispers: MMMmmmm Ice Cold Beer !
[2018/10/11 15:29] Mazidox Linden: I got 100 Mbit at home the other day. Very nice to have, I must say.
[2018/10/11 15:29] Rex Cronon: sadly my isp says one download speed but keeps on using a much slower one:(
[2018/10/11 15:29] arton Rotaru: 1 Mbit?
[2018/10/11 15:29] Rex Cronon: 1.1:(
[2018/10/11 15:30] arton Rotaru: that's not much indeed
[2018/10/11 15:30] Rex Cronon: sometimes a little higher
[2018/10/11 15:30] arton Rotaru: you should try Sansar
[2018/10/11 15:30] arton Rotaru: that was mean, I'm sorry
[2018/10/11 15:30] Rex Cronon: sadly this is what happens when there is monopoly
[2018/10/11 15:31] Rex Cronon: i tried that arton. makes no difference
[2018/10/11 15:31] Mazidox Linden: Actually that would be an interesting comparison, given how differently Sansar handles assets.
[2018/10/11 15:31] Mazidox Linden: (Disclaimer: I'm not a Sansar expert)
[2018/10/11 15:31] arton Rotaru: I hate predownloading
[2018/10/11 15:32] arton Rotaru: #1 reason I just visited Blue Mars once
[2018/10/11 15:32] Rex Cronon: anyway. no new shineys?
[2018/10/11 15:32] Mazidox Linden: No new shinies.
[2018/10/11 15:32] arton Rotaru: Animesh, BoM, EEP are still on their way
[2018/10/11 15:33] Nal (nalates.urriah): Ah well... sort meeting?
[2018/10/11 15:33] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): EEP is chuggng along.
[2018/10/11 15:33] Rex Cronon: that is like saying no more cake mazidox
[2018/10/11 15:33] Nal (nalates.urriah): short^
[2018/10/11 15:33] Rex Cronon: u get extra time to move your cars;)
[2018/10/11 15:33] Mazidox Linden: I'm okay with calling Meeting Adjourned if no one else has any other questions etc.
[2018/10/11 15:33] Nal (nalates.urriah): There are some neat experiments over on EEPTesting
[2018/10/11 15:34] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): i should stop by too
[2018/10/11 15:34] Nal (nalates.urriah): No questons here
[2018/10/11 15:34] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): thanks
[2018/10/11 15:34] arton Rotaru: let's call it a day
[2018/10/11 15:34] arton Rotaru: well, a night over here
[2018/10/11 15:34] Rex Cronon: so meeting done 4 today
[2018/10/11 15:34] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): thanks guys, and have a great evening and rest of the week
[2018/10/11 15:34] Rex Cronon: u 2
[2018/10/11 15:34] Rex Cronon: tc caleb
[2018/10/11 15:35] arton Rotaru: thanks, you too
[2018/10/11 15:35] Nal (nalates.urriah): Aaaaa-men :)
[2018/10/11 15:35] Rex Cronon: tc mazidox
[2018/10/11 15:35] Rex Cronon: tc nal
[2018/10/11 15:35] Rex Cronon: tc arton
[2018/10/11 15:35] Nal (nalates.urriah): Thanks Lindens
[2018/10/11 15:35] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): can you believe we are almost done with 2018?
[2018/10/11 15:35] Mazidox Linden: Later all, thanks for coming out!
[2018/10/11 15:35] arton Rotaru: uh, just another year
[2018/10/11 15:35] Nal (nalates.urriah): week 41...
[2018/10/11 15:35] Rex Cronon: we r not done with 18. is not even chrismas. lol
[2018/10/11 15:35] Rex Cronon: christmas*
[2018/10/11 15:35] Nal (nalates.urriah): Bye all
[2018/10/11 15:36] Rex Cronon: bye
[2018/10/11 15:36] arton Rotaru: bye
[2018/10/11 15:36] Alter Käse (caleb.linden): bye!