Bug triage/2008-08-25/Transcript

* [12:08] Alexa Linden: VWR-7509[c
* [12:08] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7509
* [12:09] Aric Linden: wow
* [12:09] Aric Linden: lotta noise in this one
* [12:09] Harleen Gretzky: This was fixed according to Prospero's comment might just need to ping Randy who re-opened it
* [12:09] Bridie Linden: nods
* [12:09] Gellan Glenelg: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8537 was marked as duplicate, but reopened. Should it be re-resolved?
* [12:10] Aric Linden: let's ask randy to provide us with his objects so we can have someone in QA retest and validate
* [12:10] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:11] Ethan Schuman: I could put something together if you'd like to test right now.
* [12:11] Bridie Linden: TriJin Bade also offers to be contacted...
* [12:11] Aric Linden: thanks ethan
* [12:11] Aric Linden: but i'd prefer to just triage and move on
* [12:11] Ethan Schuman: Alright.
* [12:11] Aric Linden: grins at ethan
* [12:11] Aric Linden: I appreciate your patience
* [12:11] Harleen Gretzky: Actually looking at teh history TriJin re-openned it
* [12:11] Bridie Linden: I'd re-resolve VWR-8537
* [12:12] Cummere Mayo: is the oen its duplicate of reopened?
* [12:12] Gellan Glenelg: yes
* [12:12] Harleen Gretzky: randy re-opened teh dupe
* [12:12] Cummere Mayo: ok
* [12:13] Alexa Linden: I'm taking care of teh dup
* [12:13] Aric Linden: is confused
* [12:13] Harleen Gretzky: lol
* [12:13] Cummere Mayo: is now too lol
* [12:13] Bridie Linden: votes to move on
* [12:13] Harleen Gretzky: seconds
* [12:14] Bridie Linden: Senator from Battery?
* [12:14] Aric Linden: what are we doing with 8717 - reresolving?
* [12:14] Aric Linden: refuses to be a politician
* [12:14] Gellan Glenelg: we haven't got to 8717 yet aric
* [12:14] Bridie Linden: lols
* [12:14] Bridie Linden: VWR-8717[c
* [12:15] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8717
* [12:15] Aric Linden: you mean all that dance and stuff was around7509?
* [12:15] Aric Linden: holey moley
* [12:15] Alexa Linden: yes
* [12:15] Alexa Linden: lol
* [12:15] Aric Linden: ok
* [12:15] Aric Linden: lets move on
* [12:15] Bridie Linden: '@Sean
* Thanks for the Tipp. I did exactly this and it's working good for now :-)'
* [12:16] Bridie Linden: reads the New Issues in the comment
* [12:16] Nexii Malthus: "*EDIT #2*
* ..and while I was typing this, SL now finally crashed the first time after aprox. 3 1/2 hours. Well, that's some "normal" state."
* [12:16] Aric Linden: but i think there's some useful stuff in here for zen to read
* [12:16] Aric Linden: I'd like to take this in with an eye toward zen and kona knowing about the asus drivers
* [12:17] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:18] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8337
* [12:18] Alexa Linden: # VWR-8337[c
* [12:19] Harleen Gretzky: Alexa asked Skidz for more info he hasn'r responded yet
* [12:19] Alexa Linden: thanks for all the updates and triaging on this Ellla
* [12:20] Harleen Gretzky: But Ellla observed that it could be a dupe of the last one we just talked about
* [12:20] Alexa Linden: WB Ellla
* [12:20] Bridie Linden: Sounds like a dupe of the New Issues in the last one...
* [12:20] Cummere Mayo: hmm so possibly zonealarm wasnt the sole issue on this if im reading ellla correctly?
* [12:21] Ellla McMahon: sorry crashed ... 8337 is going to end up a duplicate of 8717 because people will upgrade their catalyst
* [12:21] Alexa Linden: so dup of 8717?
* [12:21] Cummere Mayo: i would hold off on that
* [12:21] Cummere Mayo: till we see if theres a response with the logs
* [12:21] Aric Linden: I really feel good about Haizo's comments
* [12:21] Ellla McMahon: not yet .. but TAI are obviously aware of slow frame times .. they have addressed the issue in their release notes for 8.8
* [12:21] Ellla McMahon: *ATI
* [12:22] Aric Linden: such positive energy and feedback
* [12:22] Alexa Linden: 8717 is new
* [12:22] Alexa Linden: last weds.
* [12:23] Ellla McMahon: yes the 8.8 was released on 20th
* [12:23] Cummere Mayo: ild still wait before linking them defiantely as a dupe. to me there seems a good chance mroe then one thing is in play
* [12:24] Cummere Mayo: but thats jsut a personal feeling looking at the comments
* [12:24] Aric Linden: I like the amount of information in 8337 and I really appreciate that skidz is engaged
* [12:24] Aric Linden: it's worth calling out the info here to zen and steve and maybe even don
* [12:25] Alexa Linden: I will Aric
* [12:25] Alexa Linden: I'll flag this and the other one for them
* [12:26] Alexa Linden: next one?
* [12:26] Alexa Linden: VWR-5949[c
* [12:26] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-5949
* [12:27] Aric Linden: thanks alexa
* [12:27] Harleen Gretzky: Still only one contribution
* [12:27] Alexa Linden: yup
* [12:27] Alexa Linden: I'll update the last traiged date and see if we get any others
* [12:27] Cummere Mayo: Well, I can downgrade my "normal" client back to 19.0 and then add
* [12:27] Aric Linden: ok
* [12:28] Cummere Mayo: but i honestly think this is a dupe of others we've triaged
* [12:28] Alexa Linden: patch pool!
* [12:28] Alexa Linden: VWR-2710[c
* [12:28] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2710
* [12:28] Aric Linden: Cummere - it is, but extra logs is goodness
* [12:29] Aric Linden: I think that Danica's comments say it all for 2710
* [12:29] Bridie Linden: Looks like we need a little more goodness on this patch...
* [12:29] Alexa Linden: I need to ask if the attachment if updated
* [12:29] Aric Linden: nods at bridie
* [12:29] Alexa Linden: yup
* [12:30] Alexa Linden: will do
* [12:30] Aric Linden: it'd be cool to have a turkish viewer
* [12:30] Alexa Linden: VWR-8761[c
* [12:30] Bridie Linden: And a Swedish Chef one too...
* [12:30] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8761
* [12:30] Aric Linden: glances at Bridie linden
* [12:31] Bridie Linden: grins
* [12:31] Gellan Glenelg: wow - i logged this < 24 hrs ago
* [12:31] Aric Linden: nudges his pal
* [12:31] Alexa Linden: oh then let's skip it
* [12:31] Alexa Linden: it hasn't baked long enough
* [12:31] Harleen Gretzky: You have friends in high places :)
* [12:31] Aric Linden: it's been imported
* [12:31] Alexa Linden: lol
* [12:31] Aric Linden: or you have high friends in places
* [12:31] Aric Linden: which is it?
* [12:32] Alexa Linden: it has?
* [12:32] Aric Linden: yes
* [12:32] Gellan Glenelg: now I'm confused
* [12:32] Aric Linden: by periapse
* [12:32] Alexa Linden: I don't see a lJira number
* [12:32] Harleen Gretzky: The one you skipped has been imported by Peri already
* [12:32] Bridie Linden: 8761 doesn't look imported
* [12:32] Alexa Linden: oh ya
* [12:32] Alexa Linden: refresh your list
* [12:32] Aric Linden: I was lookinga t 2908
* [12:32] Bridie Linden: Gellan this used to work in 1.19.1 ?
* [12:32] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8761
* [12:32] Gellan Glenelg: don't know, but can check....
* [12:33] Aric Linden: this is a plot isn't it
* [12:33] Aric Linden: you're all in on it
* [12:33] Alexa Linden: hahahaha
* [12:33] Aric Linden: just trying to make me paranoid and nervous huh?
* [12:33] Bridie Linden: poor aric...
* [12:33] Alexa Linden: we are teh meanz
* [12:33] Aric Linden: well, i'm not going to fall for it
* [12:33] Aric Linden: I know you're try ing to make me crazy
* [12:33] Harleen Gretzky: My alt is on 1.18.5.3, it is broken in that version even
* [12:33] Bridie Linden: it's a short drive...
* [12:33] Aric Linden: nods
* [12:33] Alexa Linden: luaghs
* [12:34] Gellan Glenelg: ty harleen. probably been broken for ages
* [12:34] Bridie Linden: does quick search for dupe
* [12:35] Harleen Gretzky: opps, might have just been lag, works in 1.18.5.3
* [12:36] Cummere Mayo: okays is confused which one we on?
* [12:36] Harleen Gretzky: 8761
* [12:37] Gellan Glenelg: the bug repros for me on 1.19.1.4
* [12:37] Cummere Mayo: repos for me on .20(15) and 1.21
* [12:37] Bridie Linden: kk, just finding issues w/attached objects
* [12:38] Gellan Glenelg: this isn't attached
* [12:38] Aric Linden: import for triage?
* [12:38] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:38] Bridie Linden: votes for import, but probably server?
* [12:38] Cummere Mayo: no one probably picked up this was a bug
* [12:38] Alexa Linden: VWR-8283[c
* [12:38] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8283
* [12:38] Cummere Mayo: vote for import um honestly not sure about the server or viewer
* [12:39] Harleen Gretzky: If it were server it would have failed in 1.18.5.3, though
* [12:39] Aric Linden: I can't tell if the problem is that it's a delay in writing to the server or actually a server bug
* [12:39] Aric Linden: pass to sim triage and let them wrangle it
* [12:39] Aric Linden: they DO get paid for something
* [12:39] Aric Linden: :-)
* [12:39] Cummere Mayo: hmm harleen has a point
* [12:39] Alexa Linden: ok :)
* [12:40] Aric Linden: yes, but it might be lag in writing status to server or in getting the update on state delivered back from server
* [12:40] Squirrel Wood: actually Harleen had three points and a comma :p
* [12:40] Aric Linden: :P Squirrel
* [12:40] Cummere Mayo: lol
* [12:40] Cummere Mayo: next one import though not sure if its a bug . ild say import as feature request
* [12:41] Alexa Linden: I would change to a FR
* [12:41] Bridie Linden: nods
* [12:41] Aric Linden: agreed
* [12:42] Alexa Linden: but not sure about importing - I'd leave and see if we get more votes?
* [12:42] Bridie Linden: +1
* [12:42] Alexa Linden: SVC-2049[c
* [12:42] Cummere Mayo: ill vote for it if it will get it improted
* [12:43] Nexii Malthus: OH god I hate that
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2049
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: this has to be a dup
* [12:43] Cummere Mayo: um.... i have a personal coment to make on this one though i think it should be private.
* [12:43] Cummere Mayo: pardon my ignorance but who here would be ranking linden?
* [12:43] Squirrel's Fortune: Cookie: Here's some wisdom for you:
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* [12:44] Squirrel Wood: knows this fits in here somehow...
* [12:44] Cummere Mayo: looks around?
* [12:45] Aric Linden: ranking linden?
* [12:45] Aric Linden: what do you mean?
* [12:45] Nexii Malthus: Whos' the Daddy?
* [12:45] Alexa Linden: I know this is an issue as I have it each time I'm in SL
* [12:45] Gellan Glenelg: "who's the boss?"
* [12:45] Cummere Mayo: aric ill jsut im you then if i may?
* [12:45] Alexa Linden: and I know it happens with non phantom prims
* [12:45] Aric Linden: ok cummere
* [12:45] Aric Linden: I'll be rank
* [12:45] Alexa Linden: LOL
* [12:45] Aric Linden: :-)
* [12:45] Gellan Glenelg: yes, alexa - kelly's "This bug was specifically (based on the description) for phantom objects" worries me
* [12:46] Harleen Gretzky: Then: kelly linden - 20/Aug/08 12:24 PM
* Thanks Wayfinder. Based on what has been said and a quick test I just did with some phantom objects, I'm going to suggest that this bug be re-closed and either one of the other issues you mentioned be re-opened or a new issue be created.
* [12:46] Alexa Linden: I get this in my workshop when building
* [12:46] Gellan Glenelg: it's definitely still a problem, for non-phantom objects
* [12:46] Alexa Linden: yup
* [12:47] Alexa Linden: now I'm pretty sure we have some version of the yo-yo bug inhouse
* [12:47] Alexa Linden: and I can search
* [12:47] Bridie Linden: is looking
* [12:47] Bridie Linden: let's move on, if that's ok with all -- we can link up later or import as necessary
* [12:48] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8516
* [12:50] Nexii Malthus: Perhaps it should scale with the interface size
* [12:50] Gellan Glenelg: it wraps
* [12:50] Gellan Glenelg: but much too early
* [12:50] Harleen Gretzky: Delete or fix your settings file to fix that
* [12:50] Gellan Glenelg: ok
* [12:50] Bridie Linden: glod sart for Harleens work arounds!
* [12:51] Alexa Linden: Woot!
* [12:51] Harleen Gretzky: Caused by Restore Down the window bug, which is another JIRA
* [12:52] Bridie Linden: I would vote for not importing VWR-8516