Adult Content User Group/11/14/2011

==Attendees List==
*Ann Otoole (ann.otoole)
*Black (black)
*Counter Landfall (counter.landfall)
*Forceme Silverspar (forceme.silverspar)
*Gerritt (gerritt)
*Huntress Catteneo (huntress.catteneo)
*Ilana Debevec (ilana.debevec)
*Innula Zenovka (innula.zenovka)
*Lil friend (lil.friend)
*Qie (qie)
*Sassy (sassy)
*Serjourn Daxter (serjourn.daxter)
*Slaton Linden (slaton.linden)
*Viale Linden (viale.linden)
==Transcript for Monday November 14, 2011==
[10:00]	Viale Linden 	Hi Serjourn - lets wait a couple of minutes
[10:02]	Forceme Silverspar	Wanna sit on me lap Sassy?
[10:02]	Viale Linden 	Ok. I am excited to have Serjourn Daxter here representing the Freedom Continent
[10:02]	Sassy 	O.o... I was going to proposition Viale first ;)
[10:02]	Forceme Silverspar	Mhaha!
[10:03]	Viale Linden 	She is going to share some good news and then we will go into Q&A - more to come on the Q&A
[10:03]	Viale Linden 	Serjorun - you have the floor
[10:03]	Sassy 	(right click take)
[10:03]	Serjourn Daxter 	This weekend I was approached by Counter Landfall, a member of the Zindra Alliance
[10:03]	Serjourn Daxter 	We talked and looked into possible cooperation models. It became clear that the use of the Zindra name was a sore point for the alliance. I was also given an insight into the reasons. In the interest of buillding unity in the adult communities, I brought this issue up in my management team meeting Saturday. After some discussions, we passed a 16 to nill vote on to go ahead and profile what we are (an adult hub) rather than to use the Zindra name, that we understand has a value for the Zindra continent, but is of little consequence for us as a hub.
[10:04]	Serjourn Daxter 	As a first result of the new cooperation, the Zindra yellowpages have now been placed in 4 locations in the central HUB sim, and will over the comming weeks be placed also in the 4 surrounding sims.
[10:05]	Viale Linden 	Great news
[10:05]	Serjourn Daxter 	I have today had my land owner, Angelic Estates, request a name change for the sims. That was the introduction, now on to Q&A
[10:05]	Viale Linden 	Ok
[10:06]	Counter Landfall 	very good, it has already served up directory info ;-)
[10:06]	Viale Linden 	for the Q&A session. Please IM Slaton Linden your question. We will try to answer as many questions as possible
[10:07]	Slaton Linden 	Questions anyone?
[10:07]	Slaton Linden 	IM me if you have one ;)
[10:07]	Huntress Catteneo 	sorry late, about particular thing?
[10:08]	Serjourn Daxter 	For your info - it seems like the name change is already happening
[10:09]	Lil friend 	Will I need to update my links in my blog post for the hubs?
[10:09]	Serjourn Daxter 	Recap for the late arrivers
[10:09]	Serjourn Daxter 	This weekend I was approached by Counter Landfall, a member of the Zindra Alliance
[10:09]	Serjourn Daxter 	Yes, landmarks will most likely need updating
[10:09]	Lil friend 	Right , Thank you Ma'am.
[10:11]	Viale Linden 	Does anyone have questions? Please Im Slaton
[10:11]	Huntress Catteneo 	thanks for update
[10:12]	Huntress Catteneo 	I shall try VERY hard to stay awake today
[10:13]	Serjourn Daxter 	OK, if there are no questions, I need to return home and kill some sim watchers that keep telling me that the Zindra Hub sims have now entered status "Unknown"
[10:13]	Huntress Catteneo 	narcolepsy really bad atm though :(
[10:13]	Black 	I had a question ..
[10:13]	Serjourn Daxter 	Ok
[10:13]	Black 	Just sent it to slaton but, not sure if he's responding?
[10:13]	Slaton Linden 	from Huntress: what is to be in the HUBs and how do others get involved?
[10:13]	Counter Landfall 	ok, thanks Serjourn ;-)
[10:14]	Serjourn Daxter 	The HUBS will be gateways to SL
[10:14]	Serjourn Daxter 	ADULT SL
[10:14]	Sassy 	sent to Slaton, who is clearly afk and down at Starbucks
[10:14]	Serjourn Daxter 	All adult sims are welcome to profile there.
[10:14]	Serjourn Daxter 	I rent the sims on commercial terms from Angelic Estates.
[10:14]	Serjourn Daxter 	I charge for ad space and shop space
[10:15]	Huntress Catteneo 	some sort of application?
[10:15]	Serjourn Daxter 	My charging is based on covering tiers with 80% occupancy
[10:15]	Serjourn Daxter 	Just come there, if you see free space - pay and use it
[10:15]	Serjourn Daxter 	We also have infocenter staff
[10:15]	Serjourn Daxter 	You can have your own staff part of manning these centers, just contact me.
[10:16]	Serjourn Daxter 	I pay my staff (a token 25 L$ per hour), you deploy staff on your terms.
[10:16]	Sassy 	cool, I know where to send people then when they ask about certain genre's lol
[10:16]	Serjourn Daxter 	We will insist on supplyiong some basic training
[10:17]	Serjourn Daxter 	Free of charge
[10:17]	Slaton Linden 	from counter: When is the official opening - any opening ceremony - profiling in blog?
[10:17]	Serjourn Daxter 	Okay
[10:17]	Serjourn Daxter 	We are now operating - like a cruise ship sailing its maiden voyage with half the builders still on board
[10:18]	Serjourn Daxter 	We will use the next two weeks to get "the ship in shape" and the staff tuned
[10:18]	Serjourn Daxter 	The BIG LAUNCH is Saturday December 3rd
[10:19]	Serjourn Daxter 	All sims are operational now
[10:19]	Serjourn Daxter 	If you want to contribute, I have a management team, I can not handle all myself
[10:20]	Serjourn Daxter 	There are great possibilities for profiling in the sims
[10:20]	Slaton Linden 	from Gerritt: question--do these hubs function like Info hubs--that people will get dropped there if their region and home are offline?
[10:20]	Serjourn Daxter 	That is up to LL to answer
[10:20]	Serjourn Daxter 	We will supply info when people get there
[10:21]	Counter Landfall 	follow up to that, are teh allowed to set home there?
[10:21]	Counter Landfall 	they*
[10:21]	Lil friend 	Oh good questions
[10:21]	Serjourn Daxter 	Yes, we will allow all to set home
[10:21]	Counter Landfall 	cause that was a massive problem in the Bay City infohubs
[10:21]	Counter Landfall 	new users who set home there and virtually choked the sims
[10:22]	Counter Landfall 	they stayed for hours
[10:22]	Serjourn Daxter 	We will see how that is handled then
[10:22]	Serjourn Daxter 	We have 3 people watching sim performance
[10:22]	Serjourn Daxter 	And we balance things
[10:22]	Counter Landfall 	one thing is sim performance, but worse for new users is geting a sim full message when they want to go there
[10:23]	Serjourn Daxter 	We have struggled to get a good blog editor onboard, if anyone wants to participate, please IM Forceme Silverspar
[10:23]	Serjourn Daxter 	Well, the set home is NOT on in the central sim, but in the 4 surrounding sims
[10:24]	Counter Landfall 	that is a good start
[10:24]	Viale Linden 	The New locations with new names will be added to the Destination Guide soon
[10:25]	Serjourn Daxter 	Hi, it's a bit of a statement at this point but I did a bit of "secret shopping" at the weekend and with an alt asked someone with a helper tag who was representing the hub if they could provide me with resources for my area of interest that was stated. I was given a free object which is a competing product. A landmark to a competitor and then as an afterthought he "mentioned" my store. As a renter at the adult hub, it's important that information is complete and unbiased and certainly should in my mind favour those who are financially supporting it!
[10:26]	Serjourn Daxter 	I agree on that, these are issues we will see initially
[10:26]	Serjourn Daxter 	That is why we say a 2 week ramp-up
[10:27]	Serjourn Daxter 	We have now two methods of giving away freebies: A rentable space down by the water and a "superbox" up at the top of the pyramid
[10:27]	Black 	Actually, I have another option.
[10:27]	Serjourn Daxter 	OK
[10:27]	Black 	if you're interested that is?
[10:27]	Viale Linden 	We will wrap up Q&A at 10:40am
[10:27]	Serjourn Daxter 	from huntress: Are the staff there to look after sims and rentals, or are they there mainly to meet, greet and help newbies?
[10:27]	Viale Linden 	However, the forums last all day...
[10:28]	Serjourn Daxter 	We have two types of staff: The "Greeters" and sim staff with land powers to deal with any issues. Their tag will tell what they are.
[10:28]	Serjourn Daxter 	Black, yes, I am interested
[10:29]	Black 	Last week I brought up the idea of a fully networked midnight mania style board that allows you to teleport directly from one location to the other. There are statistics and because it's a game board, they wont just collect the freebies and run, they have to win them. If interseted, it is something I would like to use to network your entire area.
[10:29]	Viale Linden 	Black - Q's to slaton
[10:29]	Black 	Sorry, I sent that to him but I was not to bring it up however, it does relate.
[10:29]	Serjourn Daxter 	Can you present that for my management team next Satiurday please, this is something I want to discuss with them
[10:30]	Black 	Sure will, thanks.
[10:31]	Serjourn Daxter 	The following people are key people in the sims: Naaman McMahon, Ravena DeCuir, Sidius Core, Nihal Quan, Isabelle Kostolany, Sin Ushimawa, Wendi Zenovka
[10:31]	Serjourn Daxter 	Together we cover all timezones
[10:31]	Serjourn Daxter 	These people have full estate powers in all sims
[10:32]	Serjourn Daxter 	We have mentors working in the sims, as well as regular staff.
[10:32]	Viale Linden 	Nice
[10:33]	Serjourn Daxter 	When I came to SL, I nearly left.
[10:33]	Lil friend 	Me too.
[10:33]	Serjourn Daxter 	I was bored the day after, so I came back
[10:33]	Serjourn Daxter 	The second day I met friendly people
[10:33]	Serjourn Daxter 	So I stayed
[10:33]	Serjourn Daxter 	That is key to what we do
[10:34]	Serjourn Daxter 	Residents need to feel welcome, to learn basic skills, and to get to areas that interest them. That is why the hub is there
[10:34]	Serjourn Daxter 	We teach them to cope, then to have fun
[10:34]	Viale Linden 	Ok - 5 more minutes
[10:35]	Serjourn Daxter 	But if they are met with a "whatthefuckareyoudoingherebloodyn00b" - they will not stay
[10:35]	Lil friend 	Lil friend facepaws >.<
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[10:35]	Ann Otoole 	the ahern effect
[10:35]	Lil friend 	Lil friend gigglesfits
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[10:36]	Serjourn Daxter 	I did NOT mention Ahern, but yes - part of my research was to create a n00b alt and see what happened
[10:36]	Serjourn Daxter 	It was a VERY educating effect
[10:36]	Serjourn Daxter 	I encourage you to do likewise
[10:36]	Huntress Catteneo 	been there done that lol
[10:36]	Ilana Debevec 	did the alt survive unscathed? well minor scathing?
[10:37]	Serjourn Daxter 	And my N00b would - had she been a real noob - have left SL for good within 35 minutes
[10:37]	Gerritt 	no psychological after-care
[10:37]	Huntress Catteneo 	I was asking people at some rl events to come into sl a while back
[10:37]	Serjourn Daxter 	Yes?
[10:37]	Huntress Catteneo 	so tested what their journey would be first
[10:38]	Serjourn Daxter 	Yes???
[10:38]	Serjourn Daxter 	[2011/11/14 10:38] Slaton Linden: from Black: any plans for teaching basic - advanced skills building / sculpting and mesh fundamentals
[10:38]	Huntress Catteneo 	things have improved since that time
[10:38]	Forceme Silverspar	If I may?
[10:38]	Serjourn Daxter 	We will, and we have set aside an area that is at the moment NOT open as a sandbox but that can be opened
[10:39]	Serjourn Daxter 	Yes, Forceme?
[10:39]	Forceme Silverspar	Not to worry.
[10:39]	Serjourn Daxter 	And we have a hidden area below the welcome center - reserved to be a showcase for SL adult art
[10:40]	Innula Zenovka 	i was wondering what that was for
[10:40]	Serjourn Daxter 	We will launch - then launch this, but we do need a curator
[10:41]	Serjourn Daxter 	So anyone know a good curator, contact me or Forceme Silverspar
[10:41]	Huntress Catteneo 	there are a few around
[10:41]	Slaton Linden 	any other questions?
[10:42]	Huntress Catteneo 	with so many art sims closing this year
[10:42]	Viale Linden 	Thanks
[10:42]	Serjourn Daxter 	Any furthjer questions, feel free to IM me or my staff, please allow for a little response time as I do have a few IM's these days
[10:42]	Ilana Debevec 	a few? (gring)
[10:42]	Ilana Debevec 	(grins even)
[10:43]	Viale Linden 	Thank you Serjourn
[10:43]	Qie 	Thanks, Serjourn, and hope the project is a great success.
[10:43]	Viale Linden 	Thanks for spending time with the group today
[10:43]	Serjourn Daxter 	I have 0 people on my mute list (a principle of mine), and I never ignore any IM's, but my IM's do get capped
[10:43]	Innula Zenovka 	Thanks Serjourn
[10:43]	Serjourn Daxter 	Yw
[10:43]	Counter Landfall 	Thanks Serjourn
[10:43]	Viale Linden 	This is a Resident led program
[10:43]	Serjourn Daxter 	Now let us see if it is possible to teleport to the renamed sims
[10:43]	Viale Linden 	Entries will be found in the DG
[10:44]	Viale Linden 	When these are open, I recommend a visit
[10:46]	Viale Linden 	I will place a link to the transcript on the forums
[10:46]	Innula Zenovka 	thanks, Viale
[10:46]	Viale Linden 	For everyone that could not attend
[10:46]	Huntress Catteneo 	so that is only sbject today?
[10:47]	Viale Linden 	Yes, sorry no other agenda items
[10:47]	Viale Linden 	I hope that was helpful
[10:47]	Huntress Catteneo 	ok :( status quo again
[10:48]	Innula Zenovka 	how do you mean, Huntress?
[10:48]	Viale Linden 	Sorry Huntress, if you have an agenda item for next time, please email community@lindenlab.com
[10:49]	Huntress Catteneo 	yes and then it is not on agenda
[10:49]	Viale Linden 	I am sorry - not sure what you mean?
[10:49]	Huntress Catteneo 	everyone gets - lets have smaller meeting on that etc
[10:49]	Huntress Catteneo 	with Vortex
[10:50]	Viale Linden 	Vortex - shoot
[10:50]	Serjourn Daxter 	Okay
[10:50]	Viale Linden 	we can possibly answer
[10:50]	Huntress Catteneo 	atm we can't even list events there
[10:50]	Viale Linden 	Still?
[10:51]	Huntress Catteneo 	when changed?
[10:51]	Viale Linden 	Wondering if you might want to list on the forums as the sandbox is probably not the best place to get viewers
[10:51]	Huntress Catteneo 	not sure what you mean?
[10:52]	Viale Linden 	I will follow up on that ticket, but generally the here are the official ways to support yoru events
[10:53]	Huntress Catteneo 	it is issue of location
[10:53]	Viale Linden 	http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Resources_Portal
[10:53]	Huntress Catteneo 	cannot choose that location
[10:54]	Huntress Catteneo 	it is an ability
[10:54]	Viale Linden 	Thanks everyone for attending today. I think this moves us forward
[10:54]	Innula Zenovka 	are you saying, Huntress, that if you want to list, in Events, something happening at the Vortex, it won't let you?
[10:54]	Viale Linden 	Destination Guide, Forums, Emails and welcoming areas for adult content
[10:55]	Huntress Catteneo 	yes Innula
[10:55]	Huntress Catteneo 	can't choose that as a location
[10:55]	Qie 	Viale, this was very good. But Huntress has a point about not being able to list community events for a venue that's owned by that group, unless roles are defined that allow it... so it would be good to discuss that offline, maybe.
[10:55]	Huntress Catteneo 	so can't put build classes etc in events
[10:56]	Huntress Catteneo 	need 'host events' ability
[10:56]	Viale Linden 	I will follow up on the ticket
[10:57]	Huntress Catteneo 	Slaton should be able to do
[10:57]	Viale Linden 	We are not land managers
[10:57]	Viale Linden 	we need to go through support
[10:57]	Innula Zenovka 	i think a group owner has to give the ability, don't they?
[10:57]	Huntress Catteneo 	just need to be high enough in group
[10:58]	Viale Linden 	We will follow up with support
[10:58]	Qie 	right. I think it's a problem with the organization of the group at this point.
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