Bug triage/2008-11-24/Transcript

* [12:02] Bridie Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Monday_Agenda
* [12:02] Kona Linden: Let's see what we have on the Agenda, shall wee...
* [12:02] Kona Linden: right on point, Bridie
* [12:03] Alexa Linden: thank you Gordon :)
* [12:03] Alexa Linden: (sharp hat Kerry ^^)
* [12:04] Kerry Giha: Thanks hehe
* [12:04] Kona Linden: one sec as my windows load...sigh
* [12:04] Alexa Linden: griefer linden
* [12:04] Theodore Folsom: ^^
* [12:05] Bridie Linden: stretches
* [12:05] Alexa Linden: I'll get us started while things load for Kona
* [12:05] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-391
* [12:05] Alexa Linden: llEmail and llHTTPRequest do not handle non-ASCII characters
* [12:05] Kona Linden: thanks, loaded
* [12:06] Alexa Linden: well first
* [12:06] Alexa Linden: this is an oldie
* [12:06] Bridie Linden: nods
* [12:06] Kona Linden: don't see much more on this one
* [12:06] Squirrel Wood: true though
* [12:06] Alexa Linden: yes Squirrel?
* [12:06] Alexa Linden: so still valid?
* [12:07] Kona Linden: I've not seen this one in some time
* [12:07] Kerry Giha: Last comment was almost a year ago
* [12:07] Squirrel Wood: I'd say so. But mayhaps do a test... like with the chinese charset or something
* [12:07] Kona Linden: Sasun Steinbeck
* [12:07] Joeseph Albanese: It was brought up last week by Susan here.
* [12:07] Gordon Wendt: this was a request to be put up from last meeting don't remember which Linden asked though
* [12:07] Prospero Linden: Has anybody tried the repro recently?
* [12:07] Alexa Linden: ahh thanks
* [12:07] Kona Linden: so when sending email is when the characters fail
* [12:07] Gellan Glenelg: related to / dupe of ?
* [12:08] Alexa Linden: Hi Phillip :)
* [12:08] Kona Linden: Gellen, it's related but not quite the same
* [12:08] Gellan Glenelg: ok
* [12:08] Kona Linden: we can link them though
* [12:08] Alexa Linden: they are
* [12:08] Kona Linden: great
* [12:08] Gellan Glenelg: already linked, but as 412 is already imported, .....
* [12:09] Alexa Linden: Hi Opensource :)
* [12:09] Kona Linden: Ok so let's get on to the next one and we'll revisit that one to see if we can repro it
* [12:09] Alexa Linden: I'll mark with triaged date for now
* [12:09] Kona Linden: TY Alexa
* [12:10] Kona Linden: next one: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9147
* [12:10] Kona Linden: White image repeats in pattern over screen when taking high res snapshots - typically around glowing prims
* [12:10] Gellan Glenelg: repros for me, on 1.21.6
* [12:10] Phillip Vought: Yes.. Seen this
* [12:10] Alexa Linden: gellan, is it with custom sizes?
* [12:10] Alexa Linden: or any large format?
* [12:11] Gellan Glenelg: yeah - I used 3440x2848 (from comments)
* [12:11] Kona Linden: yeah, recent comments are dates Nov 08
* [12:11] Squirrel Wood: does it happen on 1.22.0 ?
* [12:11] Gellan Glenelg: not tried in 1.22 yet
* [12:11] Alexa Linden: so it it like the line issues
* [12:11] Alexa Linden: lines on large custom sizes?
* [12:11] Soft Linden: Probably related to VWR-10635 hi rez snapshots with 'show hud insnapshot' have huds in wrong place
* [12:11] Bridie Linden: was wondering that
* [12:11] Alexa Linden: versus large format with aspects kept?
* [12:11] Bridie Linden: (what Alexa asked)
* [12:12] Alexa Linden: vwr-7672 covers the line issue with large custom pics
* [12:12] Alexa Linden: so not sure if they are related
* [12:13] Kona Linden: let me see...
* [12:13] Soft Linden: This issue really duplicates VWR-9297, which is already imported.
* [12:13] Gellan Glenelg: does NOT repro if I "Constraint Proportions"
* [12:13] Kona Linden: nice, Soft
* [12:13] Kona Linden: ahh
* [12:14] Alexa Linden: ok - dup then?
* [12:14] Soft Linden: That one's already triaged internally and assigned to maint-render. Ya, dupe.
* [12:14] Kona Linden: k, let's hit the next one then, shall we...
* [12:14] Kona Linden: SVC-2464[c
* [12:14] Gordon Wendt: Under investigation?
* [12:15] Prospero Linden: Yeah, there are sim performanc emetrics going out with 1.25
* [12:15] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2464
* [12:15] Soft Linden: Didn't we discuss this one last week?
* [12:15] Prospero Linden: That will HOPEFULLY help us figure out things like this
* [12:15] Gordon Wendt: Alexa it seems already asked that issues with this be put through tickets in a comment on the issue
* [12:15] Phillip Vought: Yes covered last week
* [12:15] Gellan Glenelg: should the "fix version" be removed?
* [12:15] Soft Linden: Hmm, I thought last week's resolution was to ask them to contact support about specific regions.
* [12:16] Alexa Linden: we did
* [12:16] Gordon Wendt: Soft it was I think and Alexa asked for that in a comment
* [12:16] Alexa Linden: I can resolve as contact support
* [12:16] Kona Linden: kk, thanks Alexa
* [12:16] Kona Linden: Next up, Misc Pool...
* [12:17] Kona Linden: Strange CPU usage/memory issue: CPU usage 100% when client is opened
* [12:17] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9281
* [12:17] Phillip Vought: Covered last week
* [12:17] Gordon Wendt: is it just me or are these not being hit with a last triage date then?
* [12:17] Kona Linden: ahhh...
* [12:18] Soft Linden: So really - the interesting thing in this one is that they claim the CPU stays at 100% after exiting SL. That shouldn't be the case.
* [12:18] Gordon Wendt: because when I did my scan of the issues when I imported the issue list non of these had/have last triaged dates despite supposedly being dealt with previously
* [12:18] Phillip Vought: Does anyone have the time to post an explanation of CPU usage and methods?
* [12:18] Soft Linden: This is with Windows. Most of the people in support should be able to walk them through seeing if any SL processes are still running in task manager
* [12:19] Gordon Wendt: Contact support?
* [12:19] Alexa Linden: contact support then?
* [12:19] Alexa Linden: jinx
* [12:19] Kona Linden: yep
* [12:19] Soft Linden: Yeah, unless we get a lot of people demonstrating a hung process or something.
* [12:19] Soft Linden: But if that were common, I think we'd have heard a lot more about it by now
* [12:19] Alexa Linden: done
* [12:19] Soft Linden: Especially if it persisted across 1.20 and 1.21 as this says
* [12:19] Kona Linden: k, next...
* [12:20] Kona Linden: Hovertext on subprims stops prims from appearing to move
* [12:20] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-5171
* [12:20] Soft Linden: Hrm. Last action in May.
* [12:20] Soft Linden: They claim it doesn't affect new content, just things created a long, long time ago.
* [12:21] Gordon Wendt: needs more info, reopen if still effects?
* [12:21] Soft Linden: This is worth a ping to ask if it's still happening. If it is, sounds like a candidate for QA
* [12:21] Soft Linden: yus
* [12:21] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:21] Phillip Vought: he's given a way to repro.. maybe try ?
* [12:22] Gordon Wendt: see the last comment, that's somewhat interesting, only effects prims with multiple attributes set?
* [12:22] Kona Linden: the last comment was made in May O8
* [12:22] Squirrel Wood: #
* [12:22] Soft Linden: Not working for me here
* [12:22] Squirrel Wood: does it still happen?
* [12:22] Soft Linden: Would also close this, ask to reopen if it's still happening in 1.22 or later
* [12:22] Alexa Linden: I resolved - needs more info and asked
* [12:22] Phillip Vought: I bet this is serverside/scripting
* [12:23] Kona Linden: sounds good...next: Text crossover in edit menu
* [12:23] Gordon Wendt: Another old issue I think
* [12:23] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-4908
* [12:23] Gellan Glenelg: does NOT repro for me on 1.21.6
* [12:23] Gordon Wendt: no update since april
* [12:24] Kona Linden: Resolve then, alexa?
* [12:24] Soft Linden: This is DJ Wildcat triaging the oldies (oldies! OLDIES! *blam*) on B-96 - THE PRIM
* [12:24] Squirrel Wood: since then a lot has been done to the ui
* [12:24] Gordon Wendt: lol soft
* [12:24] Alexa Linden: will do
* [12:24] Kona Linden: thanks...next: Vehicles soaring into the sky in Havok 4
* [12:24] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1119
* [12:24] Gordon Wendt: another oldie
* [12:24] Kona Linden: yeah...
* [12:25] Alexa Linden: hahahaha
* [12:25] Phillip Vought: Although I do like the note at the end of this one
* [12:25] Soft Linden: Yeah. I'd ask to provide a sample classic item if this is still happeneing.
* [12:25] Gordon Wendt: H4 issue though so out of my league
* [12:25] Kona Linden: lol
* [12:25] Alexa Linden: hahaha
* [12:25] Kona Linden: we can resolve again since there hasn't been any new comments since April
* [12:25] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:25] Gordon Wendt: I think Jack has bigger issues at the moment then roads named object :)
* [12:26] Kona Linden: Windlight Viewer...loss of prim rendering upon opening profile window
* [12:26] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3743
* [12:26] Gellan Glenelg: does NOT repro on 1.21.6
* [12:26] Gordon Wendt: needs more info?
* [12:26] Kona Linden: yes, definitelyt
* [12:26] Soft Linden: We have a "Cannot reproduce"
* [12:26] Soft Linden: We should probably go with that - I assume needs more info preiodically gets re-triaged
* [12:26] Kerry Giha: That one is pretty old as well
* [12:27] Alexa Linden: VWR-3743 - can't repro?
* [12:27] Soft Linden: Someone would surely reopen if this is still happening.
* [12:27] Soft Linden: Ya.
* [12:27] Kona Linden: exactly
* [12:27] Kona Linden: k, next one: New Search window does not behave like other windows
* [12:27] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3679
* [12:27] Gordon Wendt: another old one
* [12:27] Gordon Wendt: thsi one is almost a year old
* [12:27] Gordon Wendt: *this
* [12:27] Soft Linden: ctrl-w does cose it.
* [12:28] Soft Linden: Can can't repro on this - ctrl-f really doesn't need to toggle
* [12:28] Gellan Glenelg: as does Ctrl-F
* [12:28] Phillip Vought: so its "fixed"?
* [12:28] Gellan Glenelg: i think so
* [12:28] Kerry Giha: I get it to close
* [12:29] Squirrel Wood: works just fine
* [12:29] Soft Linden: If ctrl-w wasn't working at some point in the past and works now it's fixed. But if nobody here ever saw it, it could be can't repro.
* [12:29] Phillip Vought: repros for me
* [12:29] Kerry Giha: with ctrl f and ctrl w
* [12:29] Soft Linden: Kerry - which viewer version?
* [12:29] Phillip Vought: I'm on 1.22RC and it repros if you follow the exact steps
* [12:29] Squirrel Wood: 1.21.6 here. ctrl-f toggles, ctrl-w closes
* [12:29] Kerry Giha: 1.21.5 RC
* [12:29] Soft Linden: I'm running trunk/ right now and it doesn't toggle, but ctrl-w works.
* [12:30] Phillip Vought: yup.. repros for sure
* [12:30] Kona Linden: CTRL-F closes for me
* [12:30] Phillip Vought: did you click the first entry
* [12:30] Phillip Vought: when you click inside the "browser" its stealing focus and not listenening to keys I suspect
* [12:30] Kona Linden: doh...nope it doesn't
* [12:30] Kona Linden: lol
* [12:30] Kerry Giha: oh I see yea
* [12:31] Alexa Linden: so this isn't fixed.....
* [12:31] Soft Linden: Very odd. For me, ctrl-F seems to reset the dialog - erase the current search - but not close it.
* [12:31] Kona Linden: I got Leather Spikes Female
* [12:31] Kerry Giha: It doesn't close for me now
* [12:31] Phillip Vought: thats it.. no QA jobs for you all
* [12:31] Gordon Wendt: 1.19.1.4 (Nicholaz ec-h) and I get the same thing, F toggles it open and closed, W just closes the open window
* [12:31] Kona Linden: and that's from searching "Dog"
* [12:31] Gellan Glenelg: yeah - it deends on what has focus
* [12:31] Kona Linden: lol
* [12:31] Soft Linden: Alright, so if this is inconsistent let's import it and let the viewer triage decide what the correct behavior is.
* [12:31] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:31] Kona Linden: k, next up...
* [12:31] Kona Linden: Debug setting for AllowIdleAFK does not update/override the equivalent menu item
* [12:32] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-10186
* [12:32] Gordon Wendt: QA issue?
* [12:32] Soft Linden: Okay, so the real issue is that the debug settings allow you to tweak a variable that's also accessible with a menu, and the menu doesn't know that the setting chnaged
* [12:32] Gellan Glenelg: yep
* [12:32] Soft Linden: So this should be imported with a note that it should be fixed by removing this from debug settings so long as it's in the advanced menu
* [12:32] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:32] Kona Linden: kk
* [12:32] Soft Linden: Alexa - would you please be sure the internal one gets that note
* [12:33] Soft Linden: ?
* [12:33] Alexa Linden: yup
* [12:33] Soft Linden: ty :)
* [12:33] Alexa Linden: :)
* [12:33] Kona Linden: llSetTextureAnim SMOOTH breaks on move to next row
* [12:33] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3715
* [12:34] Kona Linden: this one is a touch old as well
* [12:34] Kona Linden: 12/07
* [12:34] Object: Hello,: Avatar!
* [12:34] Gordon Wendt: that's a box with the script provided in the issue
* [12:35] Gordon Wendt: does seem a bit jumpy
* [12:35] Soft Linden: This really looks more like a documentation bug. I don't think that smooth animation is designed to support both multiple rows and columns
* [12:35] Gellan Glenelg: gordon, use llSetTexture("ad4ff49d-dd6a-b8fa-7f03-122837bbef3d", ALL_SIDES) if you want the texture mentioned in the issue
* [12:35] Gordon Wendt: ok, one second
* [12:35] Object: Hello,: Avatar!
* [12:35] Gellan Glenelg: with a ";"
* [12:36] Alexa Linden: seems smoother than before
* [12:36] Phillip Vought: see the jump tho?
* [12:36] Alexa Linden: no
* [12:36] Gordon Wendt: lets go back to my texture then, I think you can see it easier on that
* [12:37] Squirrel Wood: 8, 7, 8-6, 5, 6-4, 3, 4-2, 1, 2-8
* [12:37] Kona Linden: hmmm
* [12:37] Phillip Vought: the numbers are supposed to scroll smoothly
* [12:37] Phillip Vought: they jump in the middle
* [12:37] Alexa Linden: ya there I can see it
* [12:37] Gordon Wendt: see the jump on that one, when it hits the end it noticeably jumps
* [12:37] Alexa Linden: yup
* [12:37] Phillip Vought: you should see a smooth scrolling number sequence.. you dont.. it jumps at the midpoint to the next row
* [12:38] Squirrel Wood: What it does is it scrolls the entire line until its at the beginning again, then jumps to the next one.
* [12:38] Soft Linden: So, I'm surprised - I had no idea that cell animation even worked in conjunction with scrolling!
* [12:38] Kona Linden: I'm not really seeing a jump on my viewer...
* [12:38] Phillip Vought: hehe
* [12:38] Squirrel Wood: and that's where it "jumps"
* [12:38] Phillip Vought: look at the number,. it enters with X.. and exits with X-`
* [12:38] Phillip Vought: x-1
* [12:38] Soft Linden: Well, these changes happen 100% viewer side. If anyone can make sense of this and determine the intended behavior, it would be maint-render
* [12:38] Phillip Vought: thats not "intended"
* [12:39] Soft Linden: I'd import it for viewer triage.
* [12:39] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:39] Kona Linden: kk
* [12:39] Squirrel Wood: I would say the "wanted" behavior is to take all the lines and put them one after the other in a smooth sequence
* [12:39] Gordon Wendt: ok if I remove them?
* [12:39] Object: Hello,: Avatar!
* [12:39] Soft Linden: Ideally, would you add comments about the textures you're using here?
* [12:39] Squirrel Wood: right now it scrolls through an entire line, then jumps to the next
* [12:39] Gordon Wendt: The texture I'm using on the top box is one of my own, I'd rather not release it publicly but will give you the UUID if you need it Lindens
* [12:40] Gordon Wendt: the bottom one is attached to the JIRA issue
* [12:40] Squirrel Wood: and since textures wrap, you see the "jump"
* [12:40] Soft Linden: Or if you want to give me both boxes, I can save them for the internal triage.
* [12:40] Soft Linden: I'll not give out copies beyond just Lindens testing this.
* [12:40] Squirrel Wood: so I would assume that it should not wrap each line on its own but each line with the next one
* [12:40] Gordon Wendt: ok one second, let me full perm them and set them to names you'll recognize
* [12:40] Alexa Linden: thanks so much Gordon
* [12:40] Phillip Vought: it should join them in to one continuous strip
* [12:41] Kona Linden: Thanks Gordon =)
* [12:41] Kona Linden: lemme setup the next on while he's doing that
* [12:41] Kona Linden: Next: llSetTexture fails when combined with llSetTextureAnim
* [12:41] Alexa Linden: I learn so much from all of you each triage
* [12:41] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3714
* [12:41] Alexa Linden: it's really awesome
* [12:41] Kona Linden: ditto that Alexa
* [12:42] Gellan Glenelg: I had difficulty getting this to compile... guessed where to add line breaks - then it did NOT repro
* [12:42] Gordon Wendt: just sent them, let me know when you've got them soft, should be two objects
* [12:43] Soft Linden: thanks, Gordon
* [12:43] Gellan Glenelg: ahh - if you EDIT the issue, it restores code format :)
* [12:43] Gordon Wendt: if they need to I'll keep it in my inventory as well and take it from there as well, I know how you Lindens are always losing things :)
* [12:43] Object: Hello,: Avatar!
* [12:44] Kona Linden: snicker, Gordon
* [12:44] Kona Linden: we don't lose them, they just disappear...
* [12:44] Squirrel Wood: I think my construction here shows what "should" happen with the animation
* [12:44] Phillip Vought: I agree with squirrel
* [12:44] Phillip Vought: and not just because she paid me ;)
* [12:44] Alexa Linden: lol
* [12:44] Gordon Wendt: we still on 3715 or are we onto 3714?
* [12:45] Kona Linden: 3714
* [12:45] Alexa Linden: I think we're on 3714 now?
* [12:45] Gellan Glenelg: and I can't repro
* [12:45] Kona Linden: hmmm
* [12:45] Object: Hello,: Avatar!
* [12:45] Object: Hello,: Avatar!
* [12:46] Gordon Wendt: wow, talk about incorrectly commented code
* [12:46] Kona Linden: ROFL
* [12:47] Gordon Wendt: make him/her learn C and you'll have a new linden to write your source code commenting :)
* [12:47] Kona Linden: hehehe
* [12:47] Object: Hello,: Avatar!
* [12:48] Kona Linden: anyone have any luck reproing?
* [12:48] Soft Linden: He's animating the wrong face.
* [12:48] Gordon Wendt: can someone quickly send to my talk page wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User talk:Gordon_Wendt a copy of the code that even works?
* [12:48] Soft Linden: He's setting the texture on face 0, and then trying to animate face 1.
* [12:49] Gellan Glenelg: lemme add {code} tags
* [12:49] Soft Linden: Er she
* [12:49] Gordon Wendt: I'm trying to dive through the code and with the incorrect commenting and the linebreak mess.... wow
* [12:49] Soft Linden: Not a bug - I'll close and add the explanation
* [12:49] Gellan Glenelg: refresh issue
* [12:49] Gordon Wendt: thanks
* [12:49] Alexa Linden: thank you soft ^^
* [12:49] Alexa Linden: lol
* [12:49] Kona Linden: thanks Soft...lol
* [12:49] Kona Linden: it's a FEATURE
* [12:50] Kona Linden: k, next one...
* [12:50] Soft Linden: Yeah, works fine if I fix that.
* [12:50] Kerry Giha: nice
* [12:50] Kona Linden: Second Life 1.21.3 (100141) Oct 27 2008 13:07:29 (Second Life First Look SLim) media textures
* [12:50] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-10567
* [12:51] Gordon Wendt: skipped one? 10483?
* [12:51] Soft Linden: Good fun!
* [12:51] Alexa Linden: I was wondering that too
* [12:51] Kona Linden: Oh I've seen that
* [12:52] Kona Linden: though, not on my machone
* [12:52] Kona Linden: machine
* [12:52] Kona Linden: and I've seen this recently
* [12:52] Soft Linden: This is a dup of both the realted issues. None of them are imported. Two should be closed, one should be imported for viewer triage.
* [12:52] Kona Linden: kk
* [12:53] Soft Linden: This is prooooobably a dup of another internal issue, where uninitialized texture cruft is getting used for unloaded textures. Has some other funky effects, too.
* [12:53] Kona Linden: Alexa, you gonna change the status of it, or shall I?
* [12:53] Alexa Linden: doing it now
* [12:53] Kona Linden: you rock...ty
* [12:54] Kona Linden: next issue: Object losing permissions when some prims are unlinked
* [12:54] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8707
* [12:54] Soft Linden: This should be in SVC, not VWR
* [12:54] Gordon Wendt: did we skip, VWR-10483?
* [12:54] Soft Linden: Moving it real quick
* [12:54] Kona Linden: Gordon, checking
* [12:54] Gordon Wendt: it was above the previous one
* [12:54] Gordon Wendt: err right above VWR-10567 on the list]
* [12:55] Kona Linden: oops, I think I did
* [12:55] Kona Linden: will go to that one next, thanks G
* [12:55] Gordon Wendt: yvw
* [12:56] Gordon Wendt: Similar to VWR-8680 but apparently not a dupe
* [12:56] Soft Linden: 10483 is a dup of an internal issue - you can link it up to DEV-24200 and add a comment to test the external JIRA repro.
* [12:56] Soft Linden: The internal issue is "Build floater should have focus after user selects "edit" from object pie menu"
* [12:57] Soft Linden: And it covers a broader case than the public issue
* [12:57] Kona Linden: nice, TY soft
* [12:57] Gordon Wendt: thinks everyone is lost here
* [12:57] Phillip Vought: my normal state gordon..
* [12:57] Soft Linden: Ha :)
* [12:57] Soft Linden: Which JIRA are we on now? I think 10483 is wrapped up.
* [12:58] Kona Linden: we are still 8707
* [12:58] Kona Linden: VWR-8707
* [12:58] Soft Linden: Okay. I moved that to SVC. And it could be imported for core triage.
* [12:58] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:58] Squirrel Wood: still happening ?
* [12:58] Soft Linden: I think there's a known problem where some of the permissions end up funny on unlinking. Probably related to that - but I don't know the internal JIRA.
* [12:58] Kona Linden: kk
* [12:58] Kona Linden: thanks for that clarification, Soft
* [12:58] Squirrel Wood: what if the original prims had different perms before linking ?
* [12:59] Squirrel Wood: would those be restored ?
* [12:59] Soft Linden: Right, Squirrel. I think that's the crux of it. I think they get restored but haven't undergone the transitions that should have happened on adding items to them or on changing owners.
* [13:00] FallnFoodApplePie owned: by Alexa Linden gave you 'FallnFoodApplePieSlice (hold)' ( ).
* [13:00] Soft Linden: also: chatlag.
* [13:00] Soft Linden: It's a pretty messy blat that someone in core really has to sit down and work through the intended design on.
* [13:00] Soft Linden: there it went. :)
* [13:00] Squirrel Wood: ^^
* [13:00] Squirrel Wood: At least its something where one can start looking for a clue ^^
* [13:00] Bridie Linden: has to head to next meeting, thx all!
* [13:01] Phillip Vought: wow.. 1 already
* [13:01] Soft Linden: Thank youuuuuuu!
* [13:01] Squirrel Wood: good turnout today
* [13:01] Gordon Wendt: I think that's code when they say I think, sit down and look at, work through that means it won't get done
* [13:01] Kona Linden: TY guys
* [13:01] Soft Linden: Ha - hope not, Gordon!
* [13:01] Alexa Linden: thank you all so much
* [13:01] Alexa Linden: you seriously rock and amaze me each meeting :)
* [13:01] Soft Linden: But adding specific end-to-end repros will increase the chance of something happening sooner.
* [13:01] Kona Linden: as usual, very insightful
* [13:01] Soft Linden: So add anything you can.
* [13:01] Squirrel Wood: ^^
* [13:02] Gordon Wendt: damn, was hoping we'd get to the next one which involved someone being stupid with the debug settings
* [13:02] Joeseph Albanese: No its code for "We're waiting for someone in the office to screw up and assign it to them for punishment"
* [13:02] Soft Linden: Developers looooove problems with clear testable fixes. :)
* [13:02] Alexa Linden: again - no meeting on Wednesday
* [13:02] Kona Linden: Gordon, changing fontsizemonspace causes statistic view to become unreadable
* [13:02] Gordon Wendt: that one
* [13:02] Alexa Linden: Have a wonderful Holiday and We'll see you next Monday!
* [13:02] Squirrel Wood: hope y'all like me "animation" mockup here :p
* [13:02] Kona Linden: well that's a pain
* [13:02] Gordon Wendt: I was going to say that doing debug changes can do all sorts of crazy stuff to the viewer so if you don't want it to happen stop screwing with the debug settings