Beta Server Office Hours/Minutes/2012-03-08

Category:Beta Server Office Hours - Minutes
This meeting was held on March 8, 2012
== Agenda ==
=== Updates ===
* Second Life Server Channel
* This is the maint-server with bug fixes
* Bug Fixes
** New rate throttle on llGiveInventory. The throttle was loosened to 2.5k events per 15 minutes, double the previous value.
** http_request() fails to trigger on RC Magnum 12.01.27.248571 
** Fixed some other miscellaneous bugs, including a few crashers
** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Server/12#12.02.24.249991
* BlueSteel RC Channel
* This is an InventoryAPI maintenance project.
** Improvements were made to the way inventory transactions are handled in order to improve scalability and reliability of inventory transfers.
* Bug Fixes
** No external bugs were fixed.
* This code is also on LeTigre
** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_BlueSteel/12#12.03.06.250637
* LeTigre RC Channel
* This code is identical to the code on BlueSteel.
** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_LeTigre/12#12.03.06.250637
* Magnum RC Channel
* Uh Oh... Magnum had a ton of crashes and needed to be rolled back. :-/
* Region Rebalancing for Performance
** Mr Coyot Linden is here
* Zoom out the map window
** is fixed!
=== Transcript ===
Transcript of Oskar Linden's Server Beta User Group for March 8, 2012:
* [15:00] Oskar Linden: Good day to you all!
* [15:00] Flip Idlemind: Hai guize
* [15:00] Oskar Linden: we'll give a few minutes for people to log in and rez
* [15:02] Oskar Linden: you guys miss me last week?
* [15:02] Kallista Destiny: Yes
* [15:02] Oskar Linden: aww
* [15:02] Sahkolihaa Contepomi: Did you have a bad hangover? :p
* [15:02] Kallista Destiny: Alwasy miss you
* [15:02] Oskar Linden: actually I fared quite well
* [15:02] Coyot Linden: but we will try to aim better
* [15:02] Sahkolihaa Contepomi: Hehe.
* [15:02] Oskar Linden: Wednesday night was crazy though
* [15:02] Larre LeborskiLarre Leborski knows he missed Oskar..
* [15:02] Oskar Linden: drinking til midnight
* [15:02] Flip Idlemind: Figured you'd party hard, since you only get 1 birthday every 4 years*
* [15:02] Oskar Linden: then chilling out in a hokah bar
* [15:03] Oskar Linden: hookah
* [15:03] Flip Idlemind: You're 9, you can't drink!
* [15:03] Flight Bracelet: All Go
* [15:03] Flight Bracelet: All Go
* [15:03] Oskar Linden: anyways here is the agenda: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group
* [15:03] Ima Mechanique: hope the hookahs weren't to pricey, and you wore protection ;-)
* [15:03] Oskar Linden: nice one Ima
* [15:03] Coyot Linden: hahah
* [15:04] Oskar Linden: since Coyot is here and is a busy man I'll let him go first
* [15:04] Coyot Linden: nah
* [15:04] Oskar Linden: nah?
* [15:04] Oskar Linden: ok
* [15:04] Coyot Linden: we moved our other meeting
* [15:04] Oskar Linden: oh ok
* [15:04] Coyot Linden: so I could be here
* [15:04] Oskar Linden: well to the regularly shceudled agenda
* [15:04] Coyot Linden: that's how important these folks are
* [15:04] Sahkolihaa Contepomi: :D
* [15:04] Oskar Linden: we pushed the code on BlueSteel and LeTigre to main channel this week
* [15:04] Larre Leborski: :-)
* [15:04] MartinRJ Fayray: I said "Happy Birthday" in the group but you weren't there :(
* [15:05] Oskar Linden: those were the fixes here: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Server/12#12.02.24.249991
* [15:05] Oskar Linden: SVC-7631
* [15:05] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-7631] New rate throttle on llGiveInventory https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-7631
* [15:05] Oskar Linden: SVC-7660
* [15:05] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-7660] http_request() fails to trigger on RC Magnum 12.01.27.248571 & Second Life Server 12.02.24.250006 https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-7660
* [15:05] Oskar Linden: and a few other misc bugs and crashers
* [15:05] Oskar Linden: it went fine
* [15:05] Coyot Linden: yep
* [15:05] Oskar Linden: we did have to shuffle the RC rolls
* [15:05] Oskar Linden: we did those this morning instead
* [15:06] Oskar Linden: BlueSteel and LeTigre have new code
* [15:06] Oskar Linden: some inventory api changes
* [15:06] Oskar Linden: Improvements were made to the way inventory transactions are handled in order to improve scalability and reliability of inventory transfers.
* [15:06] Oskar Linden: no external jiras fixed
* [15:06] Oskar Linden: some old unused code removed
* [15:07] Oskar Linden: then there was Magnum...
* [15:07] Oskar Linden: poor Magnum
* [15:07] Oskar Linden: the magnum code has been around a while now
* [15:07] Oskar Linden: it's the threaded region crossing prep code
* [15:07] Oskar Linden: it's a complicated set of code
* [15:07] Kallista Destiny: Purning dead code is a mitzvahs (good deed)
* [15:07] Coyot Linden: lots of race conditions
* [15:07] Oskar Linden: and it didn't like the merge with the trunk code
* [15:07] Oskar Linden: regions have been crashing heavily all day
* [15:08] Oskar Linden: and that's real bad
* [15:08] Oskar Linden: so we have to rollback
* [15:08] Oskar Linden: we're doing that in 2 hours
* [15:08] Coyot Linden: tonight
* [15:08] Coyot Linden: yep
* [15:08] Homeless: ouch
* [15:08] Oskar Linden: our apologies for any inconvience
* [15:08] Coyot Linden: magnum -> trunk
* [15:08] Theresa Tennyson: Glad I was away from SL home all day then...
* [15:08] Oskar Linden: inconvenience
* [15:08] Oskar Linden: on a good note though
* [15:08] Oskar Linden: we've been taking this week to do some cleanup
* [15:09] Oskar Linden: Don has been working on a project for a while to make things easier for region crossings
* [15:09] Oskar Linden: Coyot can you tell us about it
* [15:09] Coyot Linden: well, actually, there is a whole team of us
* [15:09] Larre Leborski: Indeed.. me was away from Magnum yesterday as well.. been in LeTigre tho.
* [15:09] Coyot Linden: don, susan, dynamike, steven and myself
* [15:09] Coyot Linden: so, here's the basic idea
* [15:09] Coyot Linden: as you can probably guess, some regions use more memory than others
* [15:10] Coyot Linden: we also have two kinds of machines, some with more memory
* [15:10] Coyot Linden: prior to this week, there was no programmatic
* [15:10] Coyot Linden: assignment of higher mem usage to higher mem machines
* [15:10] Coyot Linden: by Friday, this will be "rebalanced"
* [15:11] Coyot Linden: we are already 95% of the way through the grid
* [15:11] Moundsa Mayo: Sweet!
* [15:11] Larre Leborski: Indeed :-)
* [15:11] Coyot Linden: the benefits, particularly for high mem users on low mem machines has already been pretty dramatic
* [15:11] Coyot Linden: lower overall mem usage
* [15:11] Coyot Linden: faster region crossings
* [15:11] Coyot Linden: lower lag
* [15:12] Coyot Linden: I hope to have numbers by next Beta OH
* [15:12] Coyot Linden: <EOF>
* [15:12] Oskar Linden: it also took into account neighboring regions and placed them closer in the colos right?
* [15:12] Coyot Linden: that's right
* [15:12] Coyot Linden: thank you for reminding me
* [15:12] Moundsa Mayo: Excellent!!
* [15:12] Oskar Linden: all around an awesome setup
* [15:13] Oskar Linden: the whole team has worked hard on this for a while
* [15:13] Coyot Linden: that also greatly improves region crossings
* [15:13] Oskar Linden: this didn't require simulator code changes, just organization of existing resources
* [15:13] Coyot Linden: yeah, we basically threw the grid in the air and made it come down in different places. :P
* [15:13] Coyot Linden: no code chanes
* [15:13] Coyot Linden: changes
* [15:14] Oskar Linden: we rebalanced the empty regions first
* [15:14] Oskar Linden: so no one knew it was going on
* [15:14] Oskar Linden: we tried to be low impact
* [15:14] Coyot Linden: indeed
* [15:14] Coyot Linden: that got us past 80% of the grid
* [15:14] Oskar Linden: hopefully we'll have it finished tomorrow morning
* [15:14] Coyot Linden: by doing parts at different times
* [15:14] Coyot Linden: so that different regions were empty
* [15:15] Theresa Tennyson: So bigger regions are on better machines now, basically?
* [15:15] Coyot Linden: basically, yes
* [15:15] Homeless: Empty as in no av's?
* [15:15] Oskar Linden: if by bigger you mean more intensive
* [15:15] Oskar Linden: yes
* [15:15] Theresa Tennyson: Yep.
* [15:15] Coyot Linden: as in "no agents"
* [15:15] Draconis Neurocam: were the regions restarted to do this?
* [15:15] Oskar Linden: no agent presents ;-)
* [15:15] Coyot Linden: draconis: yes
* [15:15] Oskar Linden: there was a lot of shuffling
* [15:15] Coyot Linden: you can't move a region between machines without restarting it
* [15:16] Moundsa Mayo: I noticed a few weeks ago we suddenly had significntly more Spare Time in Huckleberry. Would this have been an indicator?
* [15:16] Ima Mechanique: yeah, moving regions live would be like moving live sharks byhand
* [15:16] Coyot Linden: no, we weren't doing this that long ago, Moundsa
* [15:16] Oskar Linden: no moundsa
* [15:16] Coyot Linden: Ima: heh
* [15:16] Coyot Linden: more like eels
* [15:16] MartinRJ Fayray: 80% of the grid are empty regions?
* [15:16] Oskar Linden: thankfully we hav escripts to do it Ima
* [15:16] Moundsa Mayo: And i didn't get rid of any of my script glut. Hmmm.
* [15:17] Oskar Linden: not empty
* [15:17] Oskar Linden: but no agents at that time
* [15:17] Theresa Tennyson: Did you take into account average traffic as well as stuff on the ground?
* [15:17] Coyot Linden: right, Oskar
* [15:17] MartinRJ Fayray: ah
* [15:17] Oskar Linden: Theresa we took into account an overall gestalt of machine usage
* [15:17] Oskar Linden: over multiple weeks
* [15:17] Theresa Tennyson: Yay!
* [15:17] Oskar Linden: to determine which regions were more memory intensive
* [15:17] Coyot Linden: we used as our primary metric, the amount of memory used by the region over the last month
* [15:17] Coyot Linden: (as an average)
* [15:18] arton Rotaru: will this permanently rebalanced when things change on regions?
* [15:18] Oskar Linden: hopefully we will see some awesome results over the weekend
* [15:18] Coyot Linden: well, there will always be drift
* [15:18] Coyot Linden: let's say someone asks to have their region put on an RC
* [15:18] Oskar Linden: I believe we will monitor it and rebalance as needed arton
* [15:19] Coyot Linden: that might move things a bit
* [15:19] Coyot Linden: and over time...
* [15:19] arton Rotaru: okies
* [15:19] Coyot Linden: but yes, we are monitoring drift over this week and next
* [15:20] Oskar Linden: this is the type of project that makes me excited
* [15:20] Draconis Neurocam: are you monitering these by hand or is the system automated?
* [15:20] Oskar Linden: hoping to offer performance increases without code changes
* [15:20] Coyot Linden: it'sa script
* [15:20] Oskar Linden: automagically
* [15:21] Coyot Linden: I'm particularly proud of the ASM sections of the code.
* [15:21] Coyot Linden: :P
* [15:21] Draconis Neurocam: hahah
* [15:21] Oskar Linden: ASM?
* [15:21] Draconis Neurocam: assembly
* [15:21] Coyot Linden: right
* [15:21] Oskar Linden: Age, Sex, Mustard?
* [15:21] Coyot Linden: HAHA
* [15:22] Oskar Linden: Asynchronous Squirrel Monitoring
* [15:22] Draconis Neurocam: x86 or x86-64?
* [15:22] Oskar Linden: anyway. any questions?
* [15:22] Ima Mechanique: Aged Sado-Masochism
* [15:22] Coyot Linden: You see ASM hooks in OS code when it reaches out to the devices
* [15:22] Coyot Linden: SPARC!!!
* [15:22] Draconis Neurocam: pffff
* [15:22] Oskar Linden: hah
* [15:22] Theresa Tennyson: Ooo, ASM hooks. Ima was right...
* [15:22] Coyot Linden: RISC for evah!
* [15:23] Draconis Neurocam: totally
* [15:23] Coyot LindenCoyot Linden used to work for Sun...
* [15:23] Draconis Neurocam: hey arm is getting big
* [15:23] Oskar Linden: hiring Coyot was a RISC
* [15:23] Draconis Neurocam: cisc will fall eventually
* [15:23] Ima Mechanique: I gotta couple Sparcs lying around here ;-)
* [15:23] Coyot Linden: haha
* [15:24] Oskar Linden: those poor things
* [15:24] Larre Leborski: Indeed.. I have a question about this.. is this all new hardware that is hosting SL now?
* [15:24] Oskar Linden: no
* [15:24] Oskar Linden: same hardware
* [15:24] Coyot Linden: yep
* [15:24] Kallista Destiny: BAL Port it to the I370 mailframe
* [15:24] Oskar Linden: but better region balancing on the hardware
* [15:24] Larre Leborski: Indeed.. ok.
* [15:24] Oskar Linden: all of our machines are not identical
* [15:25] Larre Leborski: :-)
* [15:25] Coyot Linden: but there are only two kinds, really, and the ONLY real difference is the memory
* [15:25] Homeless: hmmm if anyone is using viewer 3, check your CPU usage, is it way up?
* [15:25] Kallista Destiny: all of you base belong us
* [15:26] Kallista Destiny: Firestone 4.0.1 Pre-Beta cpu normal
* [15:26] Draconis Neurocam: cpu usage is normal here on v3
* [15:26] arton Rotaru: 25% CPU on Second Life 3.3.1 (250315)
* [15:26] Coyot Linden: my cpu is normal
* [15:26] Theresa Tennyson: Beta 3.3 is just loafing along
* [15:26] Coyot Linden: on SL 3.2.8
* [15:27] Draconis Neurocam: 3.3.1 (250772) here
* [15:27] Homeless: hmmm I log in and mine is just fine for about 15 minutes... then it shoots up 50%... even when minimized my v3 uses 66%
* [15:27] Oskar Linden: hmm
* [15:27] Theresa Tennyson: There's a JIRA on that.
* [15:27] Oskar Linden: I'm not surprised
* [15:27] Moundsa Mayo: V3.2.8 here, scooting right along, Homeless
* [15:27] Homeless: I commented on that jira
* [15:27] Sahkolihaa Contepomi: If you have an NVIDIA graphics card, disable 'threaded optimisation' in the NVIDIA control panel.
* [15:28] Homeless: will have to try that
* [15:28] Oskar Linden: thanks for the update coyot
* [15:28] Coyot Linden: yw
* [15:28] Coyot Linden: hope to have more good news
* [15:28] Coyot Linden: next week
* [15:28] Oskar Linden: yeah I'll be excited to see some graphs
* [15:29] Oskar Linden: in other news SImon says he fixed SVC-7629
* [15:29] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-7629] Map tile generator not working https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-7629
* [15:29] Coyot Linden: oskar: http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/funny-graphs-apathy-charted1.jpg
* [15:29] Draconis Neurocam: huzzah for that
* [15:29] Draconis Neurocam: seriously
* [15:29] Oskar Linden: so open your map windown and scroll out
* [15:29] Draconis Neurocam: it works
* [15:30] Draconis Neurocam: i hope to not get packet loss from the map anymore because of it, i wish i knew how it was broke though
* [15:30] Oskar Linden: not sure about the release path to AGNI yet
* [15:30] Oskar Linden: but it is fixed here
* [15:30] Coyot Linden: That way it won't have little JIRAs
* [15:31] Oskar Linden: as it looks today the code on BlueSteel/LeTigre will get promoted next week
* [15:31] MartinRJ Fayray: my map window is broken, it says the sim next to this one is Lusk =)
* [15:31] MartinRJ Fayray: j/k
* [15:31] Oskar Linden: barring any unforseen issues
* [15:31] Oskar Linden: so if you are on Bs or Lt this weekend and notice massive inventory related oddities be sur eto file a jira and let me know
* [15:32] Theresa Tennyson: Is Magnum going to last week's Magnum or the main server release after the rollback.
* [15:32] Coyot Linden: main server
* [15:32] Oskar Linden: trunk
* [15:32] Oskar Linden: so the same as main server channel
* [15:32] Theresa TennysonTheresa Tennyson isn't special anymore, for a week at least.
* [15:33] Oskar Linden: you're still special!
* [15:33] Theresa Tennyson: Thank you!
* [15:33] Oskar Linden: but if you go onto the forums and talk about how many bugs Magnum has I will laugh at you
* [15:33] arton Rotaru: :p
* [15:34] Larre Leborski: :-)
* [15:34] Homeless: "more bugs than a roach motel"?
* [15:34] Oskar Linden: that is the funniest situation that I ever get a chance to witness. 2 codebases named differently and people arguing that one is dramatically worse than the other
* [15:34] Theresa Tennyson: SOME of us try to know SOMETHING about what we're talking about. That's why I'm here.
* [15:35] arton Rotaru: well, there was a bug with childprim positions, which was region depending, on the same code^^
* [15:35] arton Rotaru: when mesh code was released, it hit the main grid
* [15:36] arton Rotaru: I told Dan Linden about it, and he said impossible^^
* [15:36] arton Rotaru: but it reproduced all the time
* [15:37] Oskar Linden: it is just the idea that two identical codebases that only differe by name would give wildly different impressions based on personal experience
* [15:37] Oskar Linden: it's a placebo thing
* [15:37] Coyot Linden: hence the placebo effect
* [15:37] Coyot Linden: heh
* [15:37] Coyot Linden: jinx
* [15:37] Kallista Destiny: But there are also other things thay afect stuff...
* [15:38] Oskar Linden: I read a fascinating article about the placebo effect where even when people were told "this is a placebo. it is just sugar pills. it will heal you" they still got better
* [15:38] Oskar Linden: hah
* [15:38] Homeless: I suppose the (stable) in one name and the (unstable) in the second name could have something to do with it.
* [15:38] Oskar Linden: that's true Kallista
* [15:38] Kallista Destiny: viewers, network traffice etc
* [15:38] Kallista Destiny: How you hold your mouth
* [15:38] Oskar Linden: agape
* [15:38] Kallista Destiny: Remember it' alll magic at some level
* [15:38] Oskar Linden: that it is
* [15:38] Oskar Linden: just electricity
* [15:38] Oskar Linden: zipping around
* [15:39] Oskar Linden: in very precise patterns
* [15:39] Draconis Neurocam: is there a ParcelMediaURLFilterList server cap out of curiousity?
* [15:39] Oskar Linden: no idea
* [15:39] Kallista Destiny: But electricity is magic
* [15:39] Oskar Linden: it is
* [15:39] Oskar Linden: like magnets
* [15:39] Oskar Linden: how the F do they work?
* [15:39] Oskar Linden: :-p
* [15:39] Oskar Linden: anyway
* [15:39] Draconis Neurocam: miracles up in this
* [15:40] Oskar Linden: lol
* [15:40] Ima Mechanique: magnets have invisible arms that want to hug other magnets of opposite gender
* [15:40] Oskar Linden: aww
* [15:40] Ima Mechanique: basically they're horny little b'stards
* [15:40] Oskar Linden: I don't have anything else in the agenda to talk about
* [15:40] Oskar Linden: so we could either adjourn or chat about whatever
* [15:40] Ima Mechanique: why is scr-6 on "any other stuff"?
* [15:40] Flame of Jira: [#SCR-6] llGetSubString can produce results that crash Mono scripts https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SCR-6
* [15:41] Oskar Linden: ?
* [15:41] TankMaster FinesmithTankMaster Finesmith hates good weather... means there is no excuse not to do yard work
* [15:41] Oskar Linden: go outside tank
* [15:41] Coyot Linden: I think I will take this opportunity to take my leave, good folks.
* [15:41] TankMaster Finesmith: i was outside
* [15:41] Coyot Linden: have a great weekened
* [15:41] Oskar Linden: cya coyot!
* [15:41] Coyot Linden: cya
* [15:41] TankMaster Finesmith: tc cypte
* [15:41] Ima Mechanique: bye Coyot
* [15:41] Draconis Neurocam: take care coyot
* [15:41] Moundsa Mayo: Coyot, thank you for your time!
* [15:41] Coyot Linden: yw, you too!
* [15:42] Ima Mechanique: and if your ears start burning when you're gone, it's just yopur butt has finished burning
* [15:42] Theresa Tennyson: I DON'T want to start the whole debate here but I'm curious - how are the old "last names" encoded? Is "T-E-N-N-Y-S-O-N" anywhere in my "identity" or is it a number that gets looked up?
* [15:42] Oskar Linden: it's a number
* [15:42] Oskar Linden: a row in a database
* [15:42] Theresa TennysonTheresa Tennyson licks a finger and writes a "1" in the air.
* [15:43] Moundsa Mayo: "You are not a name, you are a NUMBER!!"
* [15:43] Oskar Linden: more likely 8565
* [15:43] Theresa Tennyson: Do you know off the top of your head how many last names are possible with that system?
* [15:43] Oskar Linden: as many as we want
* [15:43] Kallista Destiny: Who is number 1?
* [15:43] Draconis Neurocam: probably locked to some data value maximum
* [15:43] Ima Mechanique: lots, I have several thousand in my db and it is a fraction of what's in use
* [15:44] Kallista Destiny: 64K if is'ts a Ushort
* [15:44] Theresa Tennyson: But we can't come up with our own, I take it...
* [15:44] Kallista Destiny: 4Guf if it's an Ulong
* [15:44] Draconis Neurocam: im going to just throw it out there that Linden is number 1
* [15:44] Oskar Linden: 1 is Linden :-)
* [15:44] Draconis Neurocam: yeah
* [15:44] TankMaster Finesmith: lol
* [15:44] Oskar Linden: actually I think Linden is like 4
* [15:44] Ima Mechanique: and Tester?
* [15:44] Draconis Neurocam: really
* [15:44] Draconis Neurocam: cause doug is the oldest avatar i could find
* [15:44] Oskar Linden: it's been a while since I poked the db
* [15:45] Oskar Linden: there is an older one
* [15:45] Oskar Linden: what is her name
* [15:45] TankMaster Finesmith: ruth
* [15:45] TankMaster Finesmith: :D
* [15:45] Ima Mechanique: poking Db's is a dangerous art, sometimes they poke back
* [15:45] arton Rotaru: lol
* [15:45] Theresa Tennyson: Wasn't "Steller Sunshine" the first official resident?
* [15:45] Oskar Linden: lemme find it
* [15:45] Kallista Destiny: Yeah
* [15:45] Oskar Linden: yes
* [15:45] Oskar Linden: there
* [15:45] Oskar Linden: Steller
* [15:45] Oskar Linden: on my friends list I'll have you know
* [15:45] TankMaster Finesmith: lol
* [15:45] Moundsa Mayo: Made the Beanstalk
* [15:45] Oskar Linden: I know her personally
* [15:45] Oskar Linden: really awesome
* [15:45] Theresa Tennyson: Kewl!
* [15:45] Draconis Neurocam: 3dacc611-17d1-20a9-986f-721528a4857e ruth doesnt have one of the special keys though
* [15:46] Draconis Neurocam: a2e76fcd-9360-4f6d-a924-000000000001 theres dougs
* [15:46] Oskar Linden: heh
* [15:47] Oskar Linden: ok so yeah 1 is Linden
* [15:47] Homeless: What number is "Resident"?
* [15:47] TankMaster Finesmith: 42
* [15:47] Oskar Linden: 4 is Apple
* [15:47] Oskar Linden: 42 is Powers
* [15:47] TankMaster Finesmith: lol
* [15:47] Draconis Neurocam: what is 2?
* [15:48] Oskar Linden: Resident is 10327
* [15:48] Moundsa Mayo: If you keep poking that DB we may all end up nameless!
* [15:48] Oskar Linden: 2 is a secret ;-)
* [15:48] TankMaster Finesmith: lol
* [15:48] Homeless: Must be oskar!
* [15:48] TankMaster Finesmith: "Bossman"
* [15:48] Oskar Linden: Mayo is 4823
* [15:48] Theresa Tennyson: GRR! Always with the sekrets!
* [15:48] Draconis Neurocam: neurocam?
* [15:48] Theresa Tennyson: Tennyson?
* [15:48] Moundsa Mayo: It's fairly common
* [15:48] arton Rotaru: lol
* [15:48] Oskar Linden: 914
* [15:48] Oskar Linden: 10910 is tennyson
* [15:48] arton Rotaru: 12 mins left to find your number:p
* [15:49] TankMaster Finesmith: techmann, anf finesmith?
* [15:49] Moundsa Mayo: No, 2 is Secret
* [15:49] TankMaster Finesmith: and*
* [15:49] Draconis Neurocam: really im under 1000, awesome
* [15:49] Oskar Linden: err db offline
* [15:49] Oskar Linden: no more queries
* [15:49] TankMaster Finesmith: LOL
* [15:49] Oskar Linden: that felt like a gameshow
* [15:49] Larre LeborskiLarre Leborski wonders what his number is....
* [15:49] Homeless: crashed
* [15:49] Oskar Linden: tester was 117
* [15:50] Theresa Tennyson: Uh oh, we broke it...
* [15:50] Oskar Linden: anyway
* [15:50] Ima Mechanique: this weeks meeting was brought to you by the bugs SVC and numbers 1,2,42...
* [15:51] Draconis Neurocam: thanks oskar
* [15:51] TankMaster FinesmithTankMaster Finesmith wonders what # is emerald
* [15:51] TankMaster Finesmith: ph well :P
* [15:51] Ima Mechanique: on the agenda SCR-6 is mentioned under "Any Other Stuff". is that just decoration?
* [15:51] Oskar Linden: that might be old
* [15:51] Oskar Linden: and I forgot to remove it
* [15:51] Oskar Linden: I think we talked about it last week
* [15:51] Ima Mechanique: ahh, wasn't here last week
* [15:52] Larre Leborski: hmmm...
* [15:52] Oskar Linden: I don't remember
* [15:52] Oskar Linden: ok. 8 minutes left
* [15:53] Theresa Tennyson: Another random thought I had - I know you can keep text chat, sounds, etc. from going OUT of a parcel. Is it theoretically possible to keep them from coming INTO a parcel?
* [15:53] Oskar Linden: I might shut the meeting down a tad early
* [15:53] TankMaster Finesmith: no
* [15:53] Oskar Linden: hmm
* [15:54] TankMaster Finesmith: enjoy the nice weather
* [15:54] TankMaster Finesmith: np*
* [15:54] Oskar Linden: isn't there that one parcel setting that lets you do that now?
* [15:54] Larre Leborski: :-)
* [15:54] Oskar Linden: or is that only one way
* [15:54] Theresa Tennyson: That keeps it from going OUT. If you could keep stuff from coming IN that would really frustrate griefers.
* [15:54] Oskar Linden: gestures and objects sounds are stuck inside the parcel
* [15:54] TankMaster Finesmith: if you enable privacy on the parcle, it blocks both ways
* [15:55] Oskar Linden: like a total wall
* [15:55] Theresa Tennyson: Kewl...
* [15:55] Oskar Linden: hmm
* [15:55] Oskar Linden: not sure that will happen anytime soon
* [15:55] Theresa Tennyson: Just a thought.
* [15:55] Oskar Linden: yeah
* [15:56] Oskar Linden: alright guys. I'll give you 5 minutes back in your day!
* [15:56] Oskar Linden: 4 minutes now
* [15:56] Oskar Linden: :-p
* [15:56] arton Rotaru: thx ^^
* [15:56] TankMaster Finesmith: woot woot
* [15:56] Lares Carter: thanks for the meeting, Oskar
* [15:56] Oskar Linden: thanks for coming out
* [15:56] Moundsa Mayo: Oskar, thanks for your time!
* [15:56] Ima Mechanique: ooooh, extra sleeping time
* [15:56] Theresa Tennyson: Thank you!
* [15:56] Flip Idlemind: Oh, something I wanna bring up here at the last minute. There's a feature called "Avatar Sounds", which restricts who can play sounds on a parcel. Would it be possible to do the same thing but with Voice?
* [15:56] Oskar Linden: let me know of bluesteel or letigre have inv issues over the weekend k?
* [15:56] Oskar Linden: possibly
* [15:57] Oskar Linden: I don't think anyone is working on that Flip
* [15:57] TankMaster Finesmith: its SL, it alwyas has inventory problems :P
* [15:57] Flip Idlemind: I'm not even sure if it's possible to restrict voice usage in that way, making it so people can hear but nto speak
* [15:57] Ima Mechanique: will do, I'm on LT
* [15:57] Larre Leborski: Indeed.. I am on a LeTogre sim lots, so will do :-)
* [15:57] Larre Leborski: *LeTigre
* [15:57] Moundsa Mayo: I'm a BSer B^D
* [15:57] Ima MechaniqueIma Mechanique bites tounge ;-)
* [15:58] Moundsa Mayo: B^P
* [15:58] Larre Leborski: Indeed :-)
* [15:58] arton Rotaru: I'm out. bye all
* [15:58] TankMaster Finesmith: tc
* [15:58] Oskar Linden: l8r)