OEDAM 2015

== Location and Time ==
March 27-28 (after ELC and Yocto Project Developer Day)
2315 North 1st Street, San Jose, CA 95131 
Google maps suggests getting off light rail at the Component Station.
Start at 0900 each day.
https://goo.gl/maps/1pRGR
Now that people are already claiming to attend by Google Hangout, I will announce our intention to also webcast via Google Hangout ;)
== Attendees ==
* Philip Balister (Crofton)
* Denys Dmytriyenko (denix)
* Armin Kuster (Armpit)
* Martin Jansa (JaMa) - 50%
* Michael Halstead (halstead) - Friday only
* Jeff Osier-Mixon (jefro)
* Paul Eggleton (bluelightning)
* Steve Arnold (nerdboy/mr_science)
* Stephanie Lockwood-Childs (wormo/sjl) - via hangout
* Ron Lockwood-Childs (speedy1) - via hangout
* Herb Kuta
* Tim Orling (moto-timo)
* Sean Hudson (darknighte)
* Bruce Ashfield (zedd) - probably
* Mark Hatle (fray)
* Sona Sarmadi
* Changhyeok Bae
* Belén Barros Pena (belen) - via hangout
* Richard Purdie (RP) - via hangout
* Ken Sharp
== Agenda Items ==
* X Progress on items identified during OEDAM 2014
* X Security processes
* X Infrastructure
* X Removing the oe-core and meta-oe repos on github. These repos are now called openembedded-core and meta-openembedded/
* X People still use OE-classic from time to time. Should we remove the repo?
* X Layer maintenance
* X Demos
* >>> Patch review tools, improving the patch process
* Development cycle
* Community Development / Team Building (please add more examples/ideas... almond flour cake is always good...)
** Intro / crash course events
** Coordinated bug day sprints
** Other group/meetup activities
** Stack Overflow support
* Tests
== Minutes ==
OEDAM: OpenEmbedded Developer's (American) Meeting
March 27-28, 2015
_______________________________________________________________________
ATTENDANCE 
 
in room:
mark hatle
michael halstead
bill mills
paul eggleton
denys dmitryenko
sean hudson
armin kuster
tim orling
philip balister
sona sarmadi
martin jansa
ken sharp
stephen arnold
changhyeok bae
herb kuta
benjamin esquivel
grant likely
jefro
trevor woerner
 
phone:
richard purdie
belen barros pena
beth flanagan
bruce ashfield
 
(Apologies if I missed your name - jefro)
_______________________________________________________________________
AGENDA & SUMMARY
 
open issues & action items marked with =>
 
OEDAM 2014 summary
=> Lava - kernel ci can use it, not required; YP QA team experimenting
=> TSC role - board needs to run election, koen willing to be replaced
 why is embedded still hard - progress making it marginally easier
 layer quality - ongoing process
 lune - setup image replacement, spurred demo discussion
 next +1 - discussed
 local.conf from third parties -
 
Security
 testing security patches high priority, not all in one place
=> sona proposed security mailing list for monitoring, patches, policy
 & agreed to investigate possible CVE database
 owner: sona & fray
 
Infrastructure
 github repos - obsolete repos going away June 30
 make it obvious github is a mirror
 OE-classic - keeping for historical reasons only
=> read-only & rename to oe-classic? oe-obsolete?
=> ok to disable pull requests from github.com?
 owner: crofton
 
Layer maintenance
 build status reporting is better, incl. blacklisting bad recipes
 layer index is very positive, does not (yet?) report layer quality
 possible toaster integration in the future
 
Improving demos
 noted SDR demo in YP booth at ELC running on different SoCs
 html5/luna replacement for sato desired
 what is good for developers vs. what makes a good demo - discussion
=> bmills suggested a monthly technical meeting to work on these issues
=> jefro to schedule meeting about demos: test images, sato, etc
 identify problem, role of sato, suitable alternatives & usage cases
 
Patch review process
 RP outlined patch review process
 some aberrations in process illustrated - need tool improvement 
 some resources could be put into improving patchwork
 to automate some processes that are currently manual
 paul suggests adding functionality tests
=> general conclusion to focus on package managers, feeds, tools
 
=> sources from bitbake world builds moving to new location
 crofton/michael will update DNS, should be invisible
 
Tests
 autobuilder provides many testing featuers, automated qemu, ptests
 OE self test doesn't run on autobuilder (takes too long)
=> need more resources from community
 test mentoring helpful
 
Development cycle
 paul asks whether the current dev cycle works
 4-cycle system w/milestones (in YP) works well
 testing could be improved as per previous discussion
 some people still hold things back until last minute, RC process
 using smart for RPM: 
=> smart needs a new maintainer
 brief discussion about YP technical call - terse agenda & minutes
=> jefro to work with sjolley to add RP's readout to minutes
 discussion about collecting sources for an OE source mirror
 
# packages
 armin asks, should there be a limit on packages in OE
 fray & RP suggest OE has a self-imposed feature limit, by testing
=> discuss within TSC
 
documentation
 more technical documentation resources needed
=> crofton to mention to Advisory Board
 
OE eV
 SPI working well
 changing eV structure, sean streamlining, possibly moving to US
 next GA & possible OEDEM after ELCE in October/Dublin
 
Community Development / Team Building
 Intro / crash course events
=> jefro to investigate materials, resources for promotion
 Coordinated bug day sprints
 note: general feeling that janitors list is misnamed
=> jefro - remind stephen to add triage info to bug list
=> crofton/paul - set up bug day US a.m., UK/EU afternoon
 separate event for Asia
=> jefro - investigate webinar format
 website/wiki
 wiki cleanup needed, Jack's front page work?
=> jefro - organize as board/TSC administrative issue
 TSC meetings
 communication has been very important, now missing
=> organize issues & meetings every 2 months
 community metrics
=> jefro - work with board
 Other group/meetup activities
 openhatch, internship programs like opw
=> all - contribute to Stack Overflow support/discussions
 
next OEDAM concurrent with ELC in San Diego, March 2016
_______________________________________________________________________
DETAIL
 
Full text minutes available at:
http://pastebin.com/jpAFDUCy
or
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16cueQXzrpvzhL7lzLiQxf5NZ4STYDffK0M3OLul0Fys/edit?usp=sharing
 
Full audio recording available on request (allow time for uploading)
Category:OEDEM