Beta server office hours/Minutes/2018-03-22

[2018/03/22 15:00] arton Rotaru: don't step on my feet
[2018/03/22 15:00] Rex Cronon: how r u guys doing?
[2018/03/22 15:00] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): doing good
[2018/03/22 15:01] Nal (nalates.urriah): Hi Rex, good its raining
[2018/03/22 15:01] Rex Cronon: i am stepping on your feet arton?
[2018/03/22 15:01] Rex Cronon: hi nal
[2018/03/22 15:01] arton Rotaru: lol
[2018/03/22 15:01] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Fantastic.
[2018/03/22 15:01] arton Rotaru: no Nal did
[2018/03/22 15:02] Rex Cronon: i guess is a new way of saying hi by stepping on peoples toes;)
[2018/03/22 15:02] Bugsly Linden: foot hugs
[2018/03/22 15:02] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): toes, feet, leg, torso, neck, head
[2018/03/22 15:03] Rex Cronon: i should wear some iron clown shoes ;)
[2018/03/22 15:04] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Let's get started then?
[2018/03/22 15:04] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): let's give it about 50min and we can start
[2018/03/22 15:04] arton Rotaru: lol
[2018/03/22 15:04] Rex Cronon: just 50 minutes:)
[2018/03/22 15:05] arton Rotaru: hey, go away from my carrots
[2018/03/22 15:05] Rex Cronon: loook. whild whirly dropped by:)
[2018/03/22 15:05] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): let's get started
[2018/03/22 15:05] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): hello everyone
[2018/03/22 15:06] arton Rotaru: Gunaaaabend
[2018/03/22 15:06] Rex Cronon: a wild*
[2018/03/22 15:06] Rex Cronon: hi caleb
[2018/03/22 15:06] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): DRTSIM-369 is out on RC
[2018/03/22 15:07] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): it had some minor tweaks to the previous DRTSIM-369 from the week before
[2018/03/22 15:07] Minuet Voir: Hello everyone
[2018/03/22 15:07] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): we are confident that this is going out this coming tuesday
[2018/03/22 15:07] Rex Cronon: hi minuet
[2018/03/22 15:08] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): Bluesteel has got D-340, internal fixes, and is staying for another round on the RC channel
[2018/03/22 15:08] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): and that's all we got
[2018/03/22 15:09] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): right right
[2018/03/22 15:09] arton Rotaru: you got rid of RTSIM ?
[2018/03/22 15:09] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): no other RC going on Magnum and LeTigre
[2018/03/22 15:09] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): we still have them but they are bottling up
[2018/03/22 15:10] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): none of new ones are ready for testing right now, but we know that devs are working on them
[2018/03/22 15:11] Minuet Voir: stand by
[2018/03/22 15:12] arton Rotaru: Mazidox is studying the pelican up close it seems
[2018/03/22 15:12] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): pelicanese
[2018/03/22 15:12] Minuet Voir: How do you know? Is the pelican blushing?
[2018/03/22 15:13] arton Rotaru: no, but he is using some binoculars on him
[2018/03/22 15:13] Minuet Voir: /me zooms out a little further
[2018/03/22 15:13] Rex Cronon: is he regurgitating a fish for mazidox?
[2018/03/22 15:13] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): I want to understand in minute detail why the Pelican agrees when it does.
[2018/03/22 15:13] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Very important, you know.
[2018/03/22 15:13] Minuet Voir: aha
[2018/03/22 15:13] arton Rotaru: lol
[2018/03/22 15:14] Rex Cronon: he is like an oracle:)
[2018/03/22 15:14] Minuet Voir: Ask pelican about inventory
[2018/03/22 15:14] arton Rotaru: oh inventory
[2018/03/22 15:14] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): who invented the tory?
[2018/03/22 15:14] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Not something that'll be ready next week, but a dev is looking at messaging during teleports and region crossings, with the hope to make it more reliable and faster.
[2018/03/22 15:14] Minuet Voir: I feel like there should be a confessional of sorts here regarding inventory.
[2018/03/22 15:14] Bugsly Linden: ^exciting!
[2018/03/22 15:15] Minuet Voir: /me kneels, bows her head, and makes an offering of a yummy cupcake
[2018/03/22 15:15] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Oooohhhhhh, cupcakes
[2018/03/22 15:16] Minuet Voir: Bless me Aditi for I have acquired new assets since my last visit. It has been 14 days since my last inventory sync.
[2018/03/22 15:16] Rex Cronon: simon said on tuesday the he was engrossed in studying sim crossings...
[2018/03/22 15:16] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): cupcake is my currency
[2018/03/22 15:16] Minuet Voir: Okay, so one cupcake clearly won't do. *goes back to the kitchen*
[2018/03/22 15:16] Rex Cronon: sim crossings code*
[2018/03/22 15:17] Bugsly Linden: Caleb the cupcake guy
[2018/03/22 15:18] arton Rotaru: so, last we we talked about the scripts run % on simulators
[2018/03/22 15:18] arton Rotaru: I was very brave and did a few restarts of the region
[2018/03/22 15:19] arton Rotaru: and on the second attempt already, I had a new host and scripts run is around 60 to 70 % now. when it was 40 to 50 % before
[2018/03/22 15:21] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): huh
[2018/03/22 15:21] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): what is the region name?
[2018/03/22 15:22] arton Rotaru: I also checked the scripts count on the adjacent regions, which are also homesteads, and these do run a 1000 scripts more than mine
[2018/03/22 15:22] arton Rotaru: it's Norman Islands
[2018/03/22 15:23] Rex Cronon: if all the sims run on same server, could the server spread the load around?
[2018/03/22 15:26] Rex Cronon: .
[2018/03/22 15:26] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): !
[2018/03/22 15:26] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): the two neighbors have been up for 9 days
[2018/03/22 15:26] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): just side note
[2018/03/22 15:28] arton Rotaru: yeah, I think the dry restart when they are 2 weeks up and running is a good thinh
[2018/03/22 15:28] Rex Cronon: sometimes it gets so silent that i have to make sure i didn't get disconnected mazidox
[2018/03/22 15:28] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): haha
[2018/03/22 15:28] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Running scripts could be as simple as an event handler or as complex as... Something a lot more complex that does active computation :)
[2018/03/22 15:28] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): So "Running scripts" may not be an apples to apples comparison.
[2018/03/22 15:29] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): EPS probably gets you a bit closer, but it's still only a poor approximation.
[2018/03/22 15:29] arton Rotaru: yeah well, like I said, the region used to run in the 90-ish % for years
[2018/03/22 15:29] Rex Cronon: i guess somebody made bitcoin lsl script:)
[2018/03/22 15:29] arton Rotaru: lol
[2018/03/22 15:32] Rex Cronon: AFK...............................
[2018/03/22 15:32] Rex Cronon: afk 4 a few minutes
[2018/03/22 15:32] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): I would recommend asking the land owner (or doing it yourself, if that's you) to file a support request.
[2018/03/22 15:32] Minuet Voir: Is there a Concierge anymore?
[2018/03/22 15:32] arton Rotaru: well, it's running quite well still, even at that rate
[2018/03/22 15:33] arton Rotaru: so I'm not really complaining, I'm just wondering of the why
[2018/03/22 15:34] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): 40% means that your script will still get about 18 chances a second to run, which should be plenty.
[2018/03/22 15:34] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): I couldn't say Arton. It's not something we've tinkered with in quite a while, at least as far as I'm aware.
[2018/03/22 15:34] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): And I *should* be the can to ask...
[2018/03/22 15:35] arton Rotaru: no problem
[2018/03/22 15:35] arton Rotaru: actually that restarting the region make it come back on another host, is something I didn't knew.
[2018/03/22 15:35] arton Rotaru: IIRC, there was a time when that wasn't the case
[2018/03/22 15:36] arton Rotaru: you would end up on the same host regardless
[2018/03/22 15:36] arton Rotaru: maybe that changed with having only one datacenter now
[2018/03/22 15:37] arton Rotaru: there was a so called balancing of the grid at some point
[2018/03/22 15:37] arton Rotaru: to help with region crossings
[2018/03/22 15:37] Whirly Fizzle: I thought there stll was
[2018/03/22 15:38] arton Rotaru: it's only one datacenter now, so balacening isn't necessary anymore
[2018/03/22 15:38] arton Rotaru: at least not to help with region crossings
[2018/03/22 15:38] Whirly Fizzle: Because it broke a while ago (last years fantasy fair)
[2018/03/22 15:38] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Wait, what'd I break now? :)
[2018/03/22 15:39] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): it wasn't me
[2018/03/22 15:40] arton Rotaru: there could be some load balancing in place still indeed
[2018/03/22 15:40] arton Rotaru: I think something like that was announced a few years ago
[2018/03/22 15:41] arton Rotaru: to have busy regions run better
[2018/03/22 15:41] arton Rotaru: or something like that
[2018/03/22 15:42] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): I don't know anything about that, to be honest. But I try not to dive too deeply into the world of the Ops, for that way lies madness.
[2018/03/22 15:43] Minuet Voir: [15:14:37] Mazidox Linden: Not something that'll be ready next week, but a dev is looking at messaging during teleports and region crossings, with the hope to make it more reliable and faster.
[2018/03/22 15:43] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): I didn't promise anything!
[2018/03/22 15:43] Minuet Voir: Ya know, I've personally never viewed this as much of a priority as I have, say keeping your attachments.
[2018/03/22 15:44] Minuet Voir: Do you guys have any part in solving that long standing bug?
[2018/03/22 15:44] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): As I understand it, that's the "Reliable" part Minuet. Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not.
[2018/03/22 15:44] arton Rotaru: yeah, attachments still get lost
[2018/03/22 15:45] arton Rotaru: or detached, not actually losz
[2018/03/22 15:45] Minuet Voir: Yeah, that's fine. I get that. I just don't care much. lol
[2018/03/22 15:45] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i was gonna say
[2018/03/22 15:45] arton Rotaru: lost even
[2018/03/22 15:45] Minuet Voir: Compared to other things.
[2018/03/22 15:45] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Sorry, run that by me one more time Minuet?
[2018/03/22 15:46] Minuet Voir: You mentioned someone is working of more reliable messaging during regions crossings. So I was just wondering if you guys were also involved in any way with the bug of attachments detaching during regions crossings.
[2018/03/22 15:46] Minuet Voir: Which desperately needs a server side fix.
[2018/03/22 15:46] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): oh
[2018/03/22 15:47] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): And my response is that to my understanding, making region crossings more reliable should decrease the detachment of attachments during region crossings.
[2018/03/22 15:47] Minuet Voir: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-6925 and https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-202686
[2018/03/22 15:48] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): We will know more once it's handed off to us
[2018/03/22 15:48] Minuet Voir: ahhh okay
[2018/03/22 15:48] Minuet Voir: I've actually been doing well with the FS fixes
[2018/03/22 15:49] arton Rotaru: I still arrive naked when I get home
[2018/03/22 15:49] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): lol
[2018/03/22 15:49] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): on purpose?
[2018/03/22 15:49] arton Rotaru: lol, no I use the LL viewer
[2018/03/22 15:49] Minuet Voir: like reliably at home?
[2018/03/22 15:50] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): looking for keys and noticing there is no pocket to reach the keys
[2018/03/22 15:50] Minuet Voir: lol
[2018/03/22 15:50] arton Rotaru: when I do some vehicle trips on the mainland
[2018/03/22 15:50] arton Rotaru: lol
[2018/03/22 15:50] arton Rotaru: something like that
[2018/03/22 15:50] arton Rotaru: when I finally crash at a bad crossing
[2018/03/22 15:50] Minuet Voir: You lock your SL home Caleb?
[2018/03/22 15:50] arton Rotaru: and TP home
[2018/03/22 15:50] arton Rotaru: theres plenty of satuff missing on me
[2018/03/22 15:51] Minuet Voir: That's so cute!
[2018/03/22 15:51] Rex Cronon: cupcake commander? haha:)
[2018/03/22 15:51] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): I lock my home!
[2018/03/22 15:51] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Not even my alts get in.
[2018/03/22 15:51] Bugsly Linden: I cant even get in his home!
[2018/03/22 15:51] arton Rotaru: well, just last week I stood in my SL house, and some random guy, 2 years old tried to get in
[2018/03/22 15:51] Minuet Voir: Something tells me you're talking about a different sort of lock.
[2018/03/22 15:51] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Before rampant speculation gets out of hand...
[2018/03/22 15:52] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Yes, Bugsly is my alt. :P
[2018/03/22 15:52] arton Rotaru: rattled at the doors
[2018/03/22 15:52] Rex Cronon: u sit on a prim and do a little offset, and usually u can get into any house:)
[2018/03/22 15:52] Minuet Voir: ahahahaha
[2018/03/22 15:52] arton Rotaru: and then said, open the door ^^
[2018/03/22 15:52] Bugsly Linden: No I'm not!
[2018/03/22 15:52] Einstein Bosch: Hello all
[2018/03/22 15:52] Rex Cronon: hi einstein
[2018/03/22 15:52] arton Rotaru: so door loks still work in SL
[2018/03/22 15:52] arton Rotaru: locks even
[2018/03/22 15:53] Minuet Voir: lol bunneh
[2018/03/22 15:53] Rex Cronon: i think if u hit doors hard enough u can get through them:)
[2018/03/22 15:53] Minuet Voir: PEBCAK is alive and well in SL
[2018/03/22 15:53] arton Rotaru: yeah
[2018/03/22 15:53] Minuet Voir: exactly Rex
[2018/03/22 15:53] Rex Cronon: just like in rl:)
[2018/03/22 15:54] arton Rotaru: he didn't said please open the door, though
[2018/03/22 15:54] Einstein Bosch: Rusty? :)
[2018/03/22 15:54] Nal (nalates.urriah): Mt double click teleports, I cam inside and click-click...
[2018/03/22 15:54] Minuet Voir: That's just wrong.
[2018/03/22 15:54] arton Rotaru: so I just kicked him off the region
[2018/03/22 15:54] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): "Open the pod bay doors HAL"
[2018/03/22 15:54] Minuet Voir: rawrrrrrrrr
[2018/03/22 15:54] Minuet Voir: People have no fucking manners these days.
[2018/03/22 15:54] arton Rotaru: if you are moving fast enough you get through any prim
[2018/03/22 15:55] Nal (nalates.urriah): I love EJECT, it should be in big red bold letters...
[2018/03/22 15:55] Minuet Voir: Some of the messages could def be more entertaining and amusing.
[2018/03/22 15:55] Rex Cronon: as long as is not a XXX sim, people walking in your bedroom shouldn't be a problem:)
[2018/03/22 15:56] Minuet Voir: huh?
[2018/03/22 15:56] Einstein Bosch: :)
[2018/03/22 15:56] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): It's just impolite though.
[2018/03/22 15:56] arton Rotaru: yeah
[2018/03/22 15:56] arton Rotaru: at least they could ask beforehand
[2018/03/22 15:56] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): So what did everyone think of the recent blog post? :)
[2018/03/22 15:56] Nal (nalates.urriah): AWESOME...
[2018/03/22 15:56] Minuet Voir: Fantastic!
[2018/03/22 15:56] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Well, the Pelican approves of it at least...
[2018/03/22 15:57] arton Rotaru: to be honest, I havn't read it all yet
[2018/03/22 15:57] Minuet Voir: I derailed content group about Last Names. I'm so thrilled about that.
[2018/03/22 15:57] Einstein Bosch: Will see later i was very late
[2018/03/22 15:57] Whirly Fizzle: No mirrors *sniffle*
[2018/03/22 15:57] arton Rotaru: i don't know I'm that thrilled
[2018/03/22 15:57] Minuet Voir: Might be saving that for the Silver Anniversary
[2018/03/22 15:57] Rex Cronon: what was your last blog post about mazidox?
[2018/03/22 15:57] Nal (nalates.urriah): Oz siad a lot about names and how that is going to work. Its just gonna be a hile
[2018/03/22 15:58] Nal (nalates.urriah): awhile
[2018/03/22 15:58] Minuet Voir: later this year...
[2018/03/22 15:58] Minuet Voir: I ordered the name Bunneh already
[2018/03/22 15:58] arton Rotaru: how will I be able to keep track on my friendlist, even there are all new unnkown names to me
[2018/03/22 15:58] Einstein Bosch: SL community?
[2018/03/22 15:59] Minuet Voir: https://community.secondlife.com/blogs/entry/2328-happy-15th-birthday-second-life-fifteen-reasons-to-celebrate/
[2018/03/22 15:59] Cupcake Commander (caleb.linden): The names are in high demand i am sensing
[2018/03/22 15:59] Nal (nalates.urriah): Oh... that could be a problem.
[2018/03/22 15:59] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): *My* last blog post was The Return of the Living Objects: A Pre-Halloween Horror Story at https://community.secondlife.com/blogs/entry/2248-the-return-of-the-living-objects-a-pre-halloween-horror-story/
[2018/03/22 15:59] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): But Minuet linked the most recent blog post
[2018/03/22 15:59] Whirly Fizzle: Well, Oz did say the cost will be high enough to discourage changing name often
[2018/03/22 15:59] Einstein Bosch: Thanks you
[2018/03/22 15:59] Minuet Voir: oopsie