Community Tools User Group/19-May-2011

==Attendees List==
*Adamburp Adamczyk (adamburp.adamczyk)
*Ann Otoole (ann.otoole)
*Arawn Graalrd (arawn.spitteler)
*bee Baroque (bee.baroque)
*Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval)
*DogWomble Dollinger (dogwomble.dollinger)
*draconis.neurocam (draconis.neurocam)
*Dresden Ceriano (dresden.ceriano)
*Yann (eddi.decosta)
*Id Koba (identity.euler)
*Jeremy Linden (jeremy.linden)
*Lexie (lexie.linden)
*Lisa Fossett (lisa.fossett)
*Luc Starsider (luc.starsider)
*Marianne McCann (marianne.mccann)
*Peewee Musytari (peewee.musytari)
*Qie (qie.niangao)
*Rand (rand.linden)
*Torben (torben.trautman)
*Venus Petrov (venus.petrov)
*Void Singer (void.singer)
*COCOON (wildcat.furse)
*Youri Ashton (youri.ashton)
==Transcript for Thursday May 19, 2011==
[13:03]	Torben 	hi all 	
[13:03]	Peewee Musytari 	Aah! 	
[13:03]	Venus Petrov 	you'll let her know yourself lol 	
[13:03]	Dresden Ceriano 	hey PeeWee 	
[13:03]	Peewee Musytari 	BEE!!! 	
[13:03]	Lexie 	Hi Torben and Peewee and anyone else I cant see!! 	
[13:03]	bee Baroque 	drat! 	
[13:03]	Yann 	hi Youri and Rand :) 	
[13:03]	bee Baroque 	*snicker* hi peewee \o 	
[13:03]	Marianne McCann 	Rand is way too heavy to stand on my lap 	
[13:03]	Youri Ashton 	pokes peewee :) 	
[13:03]	Rand 	haha 	
[13:03]	Lexie 	Hi Luc 	
[13:03]	Peewee Musytari 	where are u hiding ur invisiibleness 	
[13:03]	Venus Petrov 	hiya Luc 	
[13:03]	Luc Starsider 	Hi 	
[13:03]	COCOON 	*meows* 	
[13:04]	Luc Starsider 	Am I standing on someone? 	
[13:04]	Dresden Ceriano 	hey Luc 	
[13:04]	Lexie 	Hi Dog 	
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari 	ooh Luc is here too 	
[13:04]	Luc Starsider 	Hi everybody 	
[13:04]	Lexie 	No you are not Luc 	
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari 	is he broken? 	
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari 	/me ** Loooooo00ooooooL ** 	
[13:04]	Luc Starsider 	I'm not broken 	
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari 	\o/ "YAYYYY!!!" 	
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari 	 	
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari 	_/\_ 	
[13:04]	Lexie 	Peewee hahah 	
[13:04]	COCOON 	maybe broke? 	
[13:04]	DogWomble Dollinger	hi everyone 	
[13:04]	DogWomble Dollinger	hey lexie 	
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari 	heya lexie :) 	
[13:04]	Youri Ashton 	no amanda today? 	
[13:04]	Arawn Graalrd 	/me's broke, but not broken 	
[13:04]	Luc Starsider 	I might be broken. 	
[13:04]	COCOON 	lol 	
[13:04]	Lexie 	No Amanda or Raymond today. They are at a conference 	
[13:05]	Peewee Musytari 	I still can`t see dat Bee 	
[13:05]	Youri Ashton 	aww, they will be missed! 	
[13:05]	Lexie 	http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group for the aganeda 	
[13:05]	Venus Petrov 	Wildcat! xx 	
[13:05]	Lexie 	agenda* 	
[13:05]	bee Baroque 	sit peewee, please, you make me nervous. 	
[13:05]	bee Baroque 	*snicker* 	
[13:05]	Marianne McCann 	Repetitive machine noise iss repetitive 	
[13:05]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	i bet ray just want s to avoisd another bath 	
[13:05]	Yann 	hi Wildcat :) 	
[13:05]	COCOON 	hey eddi! 	
[13:05]	Lexie 	Ok, Ready to dive in? 	
[13:05]	COCOON 	/me grabs a leash! 	
[13:05]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	for thsie who missed it last week, raymond got dunked after the meeting 	
[13:05]	Peewee Musytari 	yus 	
[13:05]	DogWomble Dollinger	/me grabs his dive tank 	
[13:06]	bee Baroque 	/me nods 	
[13:06]	Lexie 	haha yeah he did 	
[13:06]	COCOON 	lol 	
[13:06]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	°°° °° Bathtime! °° °°° 	
[13:06]	Lexie 	afk is dangerous 	
[13:06]	Peewee Musytari 	*throws bee in 1st to test water* 	
[13:06]	Dresden Ceriano 	while i got drunk after the meeting 	
[13:06]	Dresden Ceriano 	lol 	
[13:06]	Yann 	yeah lexie i know :p 	
[13:06]	Lexie 	Ok, first up! Updates: 	
[13:06]	Yann 	loll with jeremy its allways dangerous :p 	
[13:06]	Peewee Musytari 	question 1...who broke answers lol 	
[13:06]	Jeremy Linden 	Things Lindens learn the hard way at office hours: 1) Always sit on something. Always. 	
[13:06]	Arawn Graalrd 	Isn't this PeeWee's Play House? 	
[13:06]	Yann 	/me caugh 	
[13:06]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	Get to the Joppa! 	
[13:07]	Lexie 	Forums/Blogs and Answers: 	
[13:07]	Peewee Musytari 	hehe 	
[13:07]	Dresden Ceriano 	where's cyndi when you need her? 	
[13:07]	Peewee Musytari 	poor answers 	
[13:07]	DogWomble Dollinger	rofl jeremy 	
[13:07]	Lexie 	We fixed the smiley alignment ㋡ 	
[13:07]	Peewee Musytari 	yay 	
[13:07]	DogWomble Dollinger	ⓎⓐⓎ 	
[13:07]	Venus Petrov 	today? 	
[13:07]	Void Singer 	saw that... yay 	
[13:07]	Dresden Ceriano 	but not the iline images 	
[13:07]	bee Baroque 	\o/ 	
[13:07]	Dresden Ceriano 	inline* 	
[13:07]	Void Singer 	doh 	
[13:07]	Lexie 	We removed the comments form Answers. But, before you shoot me. let me say a couple fo things... 	
[13:07]	COCOON 	/me shoots 	
[13:07]	Dresden Ceriano 	they're still messed up 	
[13:08]	COCOON 	aw 	
[13:08]	Lexie 	I know Dresden 	
[13:08]	Void Singer 	::bang:: 	
[13:08]	Dresden Ceriano 	okay 	
[13:08]	Yann 	/me poke Lexie :p 	
[13:08]	Torben 	don´t get irritated by my TNT bag 	
[13:08]	Lexie 	Removing the comments solved one issue, which was comments cannot be accepted solutions 	
[13:08]	Peewee Musytari 	aww as if we would shoot u...it would be stuck like that if we did lol 	
[13:08]	Lexie 	But it also caused another one from what I am reading from you on the forums 	
[13:09]	Peewee Musytari 	hehe a few yup 	
[13:09]	Lexie 	Would you say that if each answer had a reply button, things would be better? 	
[13:09]	Lexie 	The ability to quote? 	
[13:09]	Peewee Musytari 	yes definately 	
[13:09]	Lord of Dee 	Well it was getting confusing because you'd comment and then the comment wasn't showing up. 	
[13:09]	Lexie 	Right Lord of Dee 	
[13:09]	Luc Starsider 	They should definitely have a way to reply 	
[13:10]	Lexie 	I noticed if you hit the permalink a comment box shows up... 	
[13:10]	Lexie 	So..yes we need to look at it more 	
[13:10]	Peewee Musytari 	so the existing comments lexie, can they be turned into posts? 	
[13:10]	Lexie 	I am going to ask about that Peewee 	
[13:10]	Peewee Musytari 	whew 	
[13:10]	Lexie 	I know they are still there but not easy to get to 	
[13:11]	Peewee Musytari 	yeah we still have comment counts on our stats so they def went somewhere 	
[13:11]	Lexie 	But overall, we need to be able to mark all the good info you guys give as accepted solutions. Thats why the removal of comments box was important 	
[13:11]	Yann 	oh Hi lisa :) 	
[13:11]	Lord of Dee 	At one stage they were showing if you hovered your mouse around on Firefox 4.01 	
[13:11]	Lexie 	Please continue to add feedback in the thread about Answers comments on the forum 	
[13:12]	Lexie 	I will keep an eye there 	
[13:12]	Venus Petrov 	Is Answers going to be renamed Q&A? 	
[13:12]	Peewee Musytari 	the comments on the OP were already hidden since the first change, the rest are all in same place now I guess 	
[13:12]	Lexie 	Also, we fixed the spacing related to some oddness between videos and text, paragraph headers and text. It nows spaces nicely..not all smooshed 	
[13:13]	DogWomble Dollinger	'smooshes' 	
[13:13]	DogWomble Dollinger	nice word 	
[13:13]	Lexie 	㋡ 	
[13:13]	Yann 	sorry i,m not very busy its just to stop the f.. masiv tp .. 	
[13:13]	Luc Starsider 	/me looks up smooshed in the dictionary 	
[13:13]	Lexie 	I also saw some problems with the way scripts are displaying. I am following up on that too. 	
[13:13]	Peewee Musytari 	smooshed is lexie`s new fave word hehe....she was gonna smoosh the categories too 	
[13:13]	Void Singer 	it's under S with skoce 	
[13:13]	Lexie 	Good feedback thread on that in the forums 	
[13:13]	Void Singer 	skosh? 	
[13:14]	DogWomble Dollinger	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smooshed <- there you go luc 	
[13:14]	Void Singer 	meh 	
[13:14]	Lexie 	haha yes smooshed is a helpful word 	
[13:14]	Luc Starsider 	Sound painful, actually 	
[13:14]	Jeremy Linden 	Ehhh.... 	
[13:14]	DogWomble Dollinger	particularly the last one :) 	
[13:14]	Jeremy Linden 	I don't think urban dictionary is the best source for this one. 	
[13:14]	Lexie 	ohhhh 	
[13:14]	DogWomble Dollinger	hahaha jeremy 	
[13:14]	Lexie 	:x 	
[13:14]	Peewee Musytari 	lol 	
[13:14]	Lexie 	lol 	
[13:14]	Marianne McCann 	I'm with Jeremy 	
[13:14]	Luc Starsider 	lol 	
[13:14]	Lexie 	ok Im going to pick a new word! 	
[13:14]	Void Singer 	Lexie, so was that an internal change that borked code posting or a lithium one? 	
[13:14]	Lexie 	㋡ 	
[13:14]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	google roger's profanisaurus 	
[13:15]	DogWomble Dollinger	hahahaha adam 	
[13:15]	Youri Ashton 	talking about scripts, wouldnt it be good to have a database for scripts? so everyone just can check in there without having to look trough the mess with all other pages? 	
[13:15]	Lexie 	Void I am not sure. I am asking lithium to check it for us 	
[13:15]	Venus Petrov 	Lexie, is Answers going to be renamed Q&A? 	
[13:15]	Void Singer 	thanks... 	
[13:15]	Void Singer 	@ Youri, you mean like the LSL Library? 	
[13:15]	Lexie 	Venus, Im not sure Q&A would mean much to new users? WHat do you think? 	
[13:15]	Marianne McCann 	Youri - agreed. Never felt tht was ge best way to disply them 	
[13:16]	Youri Ashton 	something like that, but more organized, its a mess now 	
[13:16]	Lord of Dee 	Youri there's a special forum or Lslwiki.net has a good library too 	
[13:16]	Venus Petrov 	I think it would, actually. 	
[13:16]	Youri Ashton 	cant really find much at all 	
[13:16]	Peewee Musytari 	I think it may be a universally known term 	
[13:16]	Luc Starsider 	Q&A is pretty well known, isn't it? 	
[13:16]	Venus Petrov 	yes, i think so 	
[13:16]	Lexie 	I will see if we can change it. 	
[13:16]	Luc Starsider 	Most people know it. 	
[13:16]	Dresden Ceriano 	i endorse it 	
[13:16]	Venus Petrov 	Great thanks 	
[13:16]	Void Singer 	Youri, there also the wiki library.... which now has a categorized view thanks to... I forget who did that 	
[13:16]	Lexie 	Lets get updates from Rand and Jeremy 	
[13:16]	Rand 	Hey... 	
[13:17]	Peewee Musytari 	maybe more recognisible to non english speakers than the word answers 	
[13:17]	Rand 	Not too much to report this week... 	
[13:17]	Rand 	Jeremy is finishing up land articles and will soon be starting work on mesh docs 	
[13:17]	Rand 	I'm still doing some wiki cleanup 	
[13:17]	Lexie 	awesome 	
[13:17]	Jeremy Linden 	I've been updating various KB articles about Private Regions, and I'm going to start working on Mesh documentation soon! 	
[13:17]	Jeremy Linden 	Er, what Rand said. 	
[13:17]	Torben 	hehe, the tag team ^^ 	
[13:17]	Rand 	heh 	
[13:18]	Rand 	I did create a new portal on the wiki 	
[13:18]	Youri Ashton 	LL itself should start their own LSL library, its a lot easier to find for new residents 	
[13:18]	Luc Starsider 	Does that mean mesh is about to hit the main grid soon? 	
[13:18]	Rand 	a small one https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Resources_Portal 	
[13:18]	Rand 	Luc - I cant speak to exact timing... 	
[13:18]	Youri Ashton 	doesnt mean that the rest isnt welcome of course 	
[13:18]	Lexie 	I like the new portal Rand 	
[13:18]	Rand 	but "real soon now" ;-) 	
[13:18]	Peewee Musytari 	why do lindens like pitting "private regions" in KB lol...don`t they know it makes u giggle..especially "naming private regions" 	
[13:18]	Luc Starsider 	OK 	
[13:18]	Jeremy Linden 	/me doesn't know what the schedule for Mesh looks like, but will be talking with Nyx after this user group. 	
[13:18]	Marianne McCann 	Question on Wiki cleanup (not that one). noted the bay City page is now marked "obsolete. er, i t is still regularly in use. What makes it "obsolete?" 	
[13:18]	Luc Starsider 	Great! 	
[13:18]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	how far on is the reworking of the wiki? i've had soem real issues fidig stuff 	
[13:18]	Rand 	Peewee lol - never actually thought of that! 	
[13:18]	Peewee Musytari 	lol 	
[13:19]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	finding* 	
[13:19]	Jeremy Linden 	Peewee, don't forget "Can I rotate my private region?" 	
[13:19]	Peewee Musytari 	/me ** Loooooo00ooooooL ** 	
[13:19]	Lexie 	lol 	
[13:19]	Marianne McCann 	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bay_City 	
[13:19]	Rand 	Marianne - perhaps it just needs some updating. If you dont think it shoudl be so marked, pls just remove the template 	
[13:19]	Lexie 	Maybe someone used the wrong template there 	
[13:19]	Marianne McCann 	Can do 	
[13:19]	Rand 	Adam - unfortunately, finding stuff on Mediawiki isa general issue 	
[13:20]	Rand 	...since there is no real notion of hierarchy or navigation 	
[13:20]	Lord of Dee 	That list of deleted pages was scary 	
[13:20]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	okay rand cheers 	
[13:20]	Rand 	If you have specific problems, please let me know and I will try to address 	
[13:20]	Peewee Musytari 	kk 	
[13:20]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	but everything i searched for gave me the complete opposite of what i looked for 	
[13:20]	Marianne McCann 	Seriously, Ciaran 	
[13:20]	Void Singer 	lol you should have seen the moved list 	
[13:20]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	rand - send you that in im? 	
[13:20]	Rand 	Adam- bummer... send me examples.... not sure I can fix tho 	
[13:20]	Rand 	IM or Lithium PM 	
[13:21]	Yann 	Hi OO :) 	
[13:21]	Rand 	That's about it for us 	
[13:21]	Lexie 	Hi oobscure 	
[13:21]	Peewee Musytari 	is there a sound here or is it in my head? 	
[13:21]	Lexie 	ok, onto stuff you all added 	
[13:21]	Lexie 	That tic toc is in your head peewee 	
[13:21]	Marianne McCann 	It's here, peewee. Ended up having to mute the computer 	
[13:21]	Peewee Musytari 	lol 	
[13:21]	COCOON 	this->proposal to block 'buy/sell land and commerce threads' from appearing in 'Recently Created Threads', a forum is a place to discuss topics not to be used for SPAM ^^ 	
[13:21]	Lord of Dee 	There's a sound 	
[13:21]	Void Singer 	and just for the record, many thanks Rand 	
[13:21]	Peewee Musytari 	its loud 	
[13:22]	Rand 	yw Void 	
[13:22]	COCOON 	I hear it too peewee ^^ 	
[13:22]	Jeremy Linden 	/me can't hear it... 	
[13:22]	Lord of Dee 	Throbbing noise 	
[13:22]	Peewee Musytari 	yes 	
[13:22]	Luc Starsider 	/me cant hear it 	
[13:22]	Jeremy Linden 	Cany anyone identify the source? 	
[13:22]	Lisa Fossett 	Wildcat, I'd hoped that was brought up. I agree with you 	
[13:22]	Peewee Musytari 	industrial 	
[13:22]	Ann Otoole 	i had to block dogwomble cuz the pounding sound was giving me a headache. sorry dog. 	
[13:22]	COCOON 	;o) 	
[13:22]	Marianne McCann 	AH, it's dog? Thanks 	
[13:22]	Lexie 	Wildcat: I hate to say I don't think so, but..I dont think so. 	
[13:22]	DogWomble Dollinger	no probs ... i got rid of that last night anyways 	
[13:22]	Void Singer 	/me loves hearing from lookat postion... zoom out to silence 	
[13:22]	Yann 	what an headhache? lol :) 	
[13:23]	COCOON 	meaning lexie? 	
[13:23]	Lexie 	I will double check but I think it simply pulls from all 	
[13:23]	Yann 	sorry *sarcasme* 	
[13:23]	COCOON 	It is irritating to see appearing constantly the same spam threads 	
[13:23]	Lexie 	We might be able to come up with a different widget to use 	
[13:23]	Lisa Fossett 	The source may actually be from Dracons. I'm getting something on his foot that seems to be it... 	
[13:23]	COCOON 	from the same people 	
[13:23]	Luc Starsider 	I agree with Wildcat 	
[13:23]	draconis.neurocam 	if you want to know where sounds are coming from, on v2 at least world>show>beacons 	
[13:23]	Lexie 	right wildcat, I agree 	
[13:24]	Luc Starsider 	Perhas the commerce stuff could be separated out? 	
[13:24]	Lexie 	I will add that to the list to check on in more depth 	
[13:24]	COCOON 	I rather like to see interesting subjects in there 	
[13:24]	Luc Starsider 	Perhaps 	
[13:24]	COCOON 	forum is to discuss 	
[13:24]	Lisa Fossett 	The forum becomes a free classified if you let that in. 	
[13:24]	Lord of Dee 	Forum has many purposes 	
[13:24]	Lisa Fossett 	And it wastes resources. 	
[13:24]	COCOON 	yes but if you want to advertise ...... NO 	
[13:24]	Lisa Fossett 	and clogs it. 	
[13:24]	Lord of Dee 	Classifieds should be in there too, they used to be 	
[13:25]	Lexie 	I will take your feedback to the team and see what they come up with on it 	
[13:25]	COCOON 	cool thx lexie ^^ 	
[13:25]	Yann 	hmm, question like that on the new forum and blog, do you know .. when i click of the user name its could be redirected to the web profile link? 	
[13:25]	Peewee Musytari 	what happened to the request to bring back the New Products forum? are we getting that? 	
[13:25]	Lisa Fossett 	Sorryt, the sound was not on Draconis, it's on Dog's left foot 	
[13:26]	Peewee Musytari 	yeah the sound is dogwomble hehe 	
[13:26]	DogWomble Dollinger	strange ... the scripting and sounds for that have been removed 	
[13:26]	Void Singer 	/me likes Eddi's idea.... it's been a popular request since before jive 	
[13:26]	Jeremy Linden 	If I recall correctly, looping sounds may not stop if the script is removed. 	
[13:26]	Lexie 	New Products forum.. I do not have an answer on that. Lets have that on next weeks agenda 	
[13:26]	Lisa Fossett 	need to scrub the prim 	
[13:26]	draconis.neurocam 	llstopsound has to be called i believe 	
[13:27]	Peewee Musytari 	kk ty lexie 	
[13:27]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	well, its not my onigokko] 	
[13:27]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	onigokko 	
[13:27]	Void Singer 	/me nods at Jeremy: you have to use a script to remove embedded sounds from objects 	
[13:27]	Peewee Musytari 	ahh silence 	
[13:27]	Peewee Musytari 	yay 	
[13:27]	Yann 	Void, its an # jira for this request or it not started yet? 	
[13:27]	Peewee Musytari 	ty 	
[13:27]	Lord of Dee 	It has stopped 	
[13:27]	Dresden Ceriano 	i'm so glad i'm noy wearing mine 	
[13:27]	COCOON 	^^ 	
[13:27]	Dresden Ceriano 	not* 	
[13:27]	Lexie 	Yann: it will redirect you to the community profile. Thats as expected 	
[13:27]	Lexie 	Different profiles 	
[13:28]	Void Singer 	Eddi, I dunno... I just remember it being requested multiple times since the old forums 	
[13:28]	Dresden Ceriano 	maybe we could have a link on the community profile to your SL profile 	
[13:28]	Marianne McCann 	Indeed, Dresden 	
[13:28]	Yann 	okey lexie, cause now you have 3 or 4 different profile, they use some different server for notning :) 	
[13:28]	Lexie 	Interesting idea Dresden! 	
[13:28]	Luc Starsider 	That would be great, Dres 	
[13:28]	Lisa Fossett 	I daresay you could add it, if you can add a link 	
[13:28]	Marianne McCann 	So many profiles to manage... 	
[13:28]	Peewee Musytari 	ooh the old xtreet forum had that 	
[13:28]	Lisa Fossett 	should be opt in as always :) 	
[13:28]	Lexie 	opt in..good point 	
[13:29]	Dresden Ceriano 	true 	
[13:29]	Lexie 	Next up: When not logged in on secondlife.com, the link for Help->Resources For New Users should probably point to a more useful page than http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Featured-News/bg-p/blog_feature_news 	
[13:29]	Lexie 	Rand or Jeremy, do you know anything on this at all? 	
[13:29]	Yann 	jira profile, web profile, wiki profile .. blog profile .. geez 	
[13:29]	Luc Starsider 	Yupp. You should not have to be logged in to get to the info you need 	
[13:29]	Lexie 	I know its by design 	
[13:29]	Rand 	Lexie - that would just be a WEB jira 	
[13:29]	Luc Starsider 	And the featured news is not very interesting to new users, I think 	
[13:29]	Peewee Musytari 	blondin seemed to thin he fixed that but mine is still broke 	
[13:29]	Rand 	If its by design, I dont think its a good choice 	
[13:30]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	lexie, any word on last week's visit? 	
[13:30]	Dresden Ceriano 	something to look into 	
[13:30]	Luc Starsider 	Yes, it's still broke 	
[13:30]	Rand 	Suggest we open a Jira and see if we can get it changed/fixed 	
[13:30]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	whilst on about stuff for noobs? 	
[13:30]	Lexie 	I take that back..I could be wrong. Has anyone checked for a jira on it yet? 	
[13:30]	Rand 	I have not 	
[13:30]	Lexie 	Can you do one if it doesnt exist? 	
[13:30]	Yann 	okey .. hmm let me see what i can do on jira :) 	
[13:31]	Yann 	i can take a linden profile to do my picture add? 	
[13:31]	Youri Ashton 	that page at least needs to be a lot simpler and easier to use 	
[13:31]	Lexie 	Adam, no "news" yet 	
[13:31]	Rand 	yes, i could open a jira 	
[13:31]	Lexie 	great 	
[13:31]	Lexie 	Where is the preferred place for putting bug reports and/or feature requests for the community? User group, community forum, jira or what? 	
[13:31]	Rand 	Yann, if y ou could do it, great! 	
[13:31]	Youri Ashton 	noobs dont understand a lot of SL in the beginning, so yeah, rand, opena JIRA, this really needs a fix i'd say 	
[13:32]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	well i meant is did you pass it on 	
[13:32]	Rand 	i agree it should be fixed 	
[13:32]	Lexie 	I did Adam 	
[13:32]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	i understand doesn't ha[[en overnight 	
[13:32]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	thanks lexie - and thanks for takng the tiem to look 	
[13:32]	Lexie 	bug reports and feature request go in jira. 	
[13:32]	Luc Starsider 	The reason for the question is that I have kind of used the community for bug reports, and they do nto really fit there. Jira is the better place. 	
[13:32]	Luc Starsider 	But which is best? 	
[13:33]	Lexie 	If you are giving feedback strictly on the community platform, there is a thread for that available 	
[13:33]	Luc Starsider 	OK 	
[13:33]	Dresden Ceriano 	i think you should go to the community first, so you can get a handle on if it's really an issue or if domething's going on just for you 	
[13:33]	Luc Starsider 	I started to wonder, so I've added everything to the community. 	
[13:33]	Void Singer 	@Rand, that jira is about the login conditional page link? even targetting the logged on pages (which just sends you through an openid check) might be prefereable 	
[13:33]	Lexie 	If you are unsure, you can always PM me and I can tell you the place for it Luc 	
[13:33]	Luc Starsider 	OK. 	
[13:34]	Luc Starsider 	Will do 	
[13:34]	Yann 	what the component i can take for that? 	
[13:34]	Void Singer 	WEB I think 	
[13:34]	Void Singer 	SVC is that's been closed 	
[13:35]	Lexie 	Hi Identity 	
[13:35]	Lexie 	I think WEB too 	
[13:35]	Lexie 	ok next on the list: 	
[13:35]	Lexie 	Forum consolidation ideas from residents 	
[13:35]	Yann 	yeah , but the components , in web 	
[13:35]	Peewee Musytari 	it would be good if there was somewhere we could report patterns of occurring problems that look like they might be the start of a bug, so that people don`t get bounced back n forth from JIRA to support when neither recognise its a problem affecting more than one person.....like divorces where one name stays on a profile	
[13:35]	Venus Petrov 	Yes, Lexie, I put the link to the thread in the agenda 	
[13:35]	Rand 	Yes, "logged in" sl.com is different than "not logged in" .... even different teams handle the issues 	
[13:35]	Id Koba 	Hi ㋡ 	
[13:35]	COCOON 	Hiya Id 	
[13:36]	Youri Ashton 	hey oob 	
[13:36]	Lexie 	http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Forums-Blogs-Answers-and/Forum-Consolidation/m-p/876807#M3978 is the link ffor forum consolidation 	
[13:36]	Void Singer 	oh... uhm... probably leave them blank.... they're underused for the most part, unless something sticks out 	
[13:36]	COCOON 	I liked Storm his proposal ^^ 	
[13:36]	COCOON 	to consolidate 	
[13:36]	Venus Petrov 	Storm started the thread..there have been several good ideas for consolidating subforums 	
[13:37]	Lexie 	I agree we should combine some of them 	
[13:37]	Venus Petrov 	there is such a proliferation that it is sometimes hard to know where to post things and where to find things 	
[13:37]	Dresden Ceriano 	i favorite is mine... hehe 	
[13:37]	Yann 	just take blog, forum wiki, and my secondlife.com :) 	
[13:37]	Youri Ashton 	hey identity :) 	
[13:37]	Dresden Ceriano 	my* 	
[13:37]	Void Singer 	lol a dres 	
[13:37]	Lisa Fossett 	Well said, Venus 	
[13:37]	Venus Petrov 	/me smiles at Dres 	
[13:37]	Lexie 	I dont think we can restructure the whole thing 	
[13:37]	Venus Petrov 	some might actually like an uber list but may be unwieldy for others 	
[13:38]	Venus Petrov 	so reducing the number of subforums would be great 	
[13:38]	COCOON 	you could SMOOSH it Lexie ^^ 	
[13:38]	Youri Ashton 	time for me to go again :) 	
[13:38]	Venus Petrov 	hehe Wildcat 	
[13:38]	Lexie 	lol wildcat 	
[13:38]	COCOON 	lol 	
[13:38]	Youri Ashton 	tnx for having me lindens :) 	
[13:38]	Void Singer 	never gonna let her forget huh? 	
[13:38]	Lexie 	Bye Youri! 	
[13:38]	Youri Ashton 	till next week! 	
[13:38]	Void Singer 	=) 	
[13:38]	bee Baroque 	bye youri \o :) 	
[13:38]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	bye youri, tc fella 	
[13:38]	Youri Ashton 	bye bye lexie :) 	
[13:38]	COCOON 	tc youri 	
[13:38]	Peewee Musytari 	bye youri :) 	
[13:38]	Jeremy Linden 	Smoosh: v. "To squash or mash" 	
[13:38]	Torben 	I gotta run too 	
[13:38]	Venus Petrov 	Lexie, since you've read the thread, can we leave it to you and your team to make the changes? 	
[13:39]	Torben 	take care all 	
[13:39]	Dresden Ceriano 	what happens is you're spreading the conversation too much, there's no place to go to hang out really 	
[13:39]	Venus Petrov 	righto 	
[13:39]	Lexie 	What criteria would a board meet to require us to merge it into another forum 	
[13:39]	Dresden Ceriano 	doesn't help build a feeling of community 	
[13:39]	Lexie 	ok Dresden, good point 	
[13:39]	DogWomble Dollinger	lexie similarly themed content? 	
[13:39]	Venus Petrov 	Sorry Lexie, I don't understand the question. 	
[13:40]	Peewee Musytari 	someone posted another thread about renaming the scripting forum and making it more obvious too 	
[13:40]	Dresden Ceriano 	my avatar and fashion 	
[13:40]	Dresden Ceriano 	for one 	
[13:40]	Void Singer 	similar theme and low pocst frequency? 	
[13:40]	Venus Petrov 	right 	
[13:40]	Lord of Dee 	Well the sports guys seem to be happy talking sports and the rolpeplayers are happy talking roleplay, these won't interest that many folk so why not leave them be 	
[13:40]	COCOON 	Lexie while you restructure it ......... can you add DATING as a category? ->this to help the lonely hearts in second life!!! 	
[13:40]	Lexie 	Let me restate it. If a board only has x number of threads after 30 days..it should merge with another board? 	
[13:40]	Venus Petrov 	low post frequency is ripe for consolidation 	
[13:40]	Venus Petrov 	yes to that Lexie 	
[13:40]	Dresden Ceriano 	maybe so 	
[13:41]	Peewee Musytari 	yeah sport has been quiet...must be off season 	
[13:41]	Lexie 	I don't think we will do a dating area... lol 	
[13:41]	Marianne McCann 	Perhaps. THough I suspect some categories may not shoehorn well 	
[13:41]	Lexie 	right Marianne 	
[13:41]	Venus Petrov 	ahahahahah 	
[13:41]	COCOON 	well more and more people seem to post in that direction ^^ 	
[13:41]	Marianne McCann 	Lexie "Is my avvie hot or not" 	
[13:41]	Dresden Ceriano 	i was hoping for more... but i'll take what i can get... lol 	
[13:41]	Venus Petrov 	Storm will be disappointed! 	
[13:41]	Marianne McCann 	/me snickers 	
[13:41]	COCOON 	yes he will be depressed ^^ 	
[13:41]	Yann 	https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-3872 , done here, but i need to complete after the meeting 	
[13:41]	Void Singer 	/me finds it hard to give a number 	
[13:41]	Venus Petrov 	He just wants to know if he can get that elusive date with you lol 	
[13:41]	Lexie 	thanks Yann! 	
[13:41]	Lexie 	haha Venus 	
[13:41]	COCOON 	lol venus 	
[13:41]	Yann 	welcome Lexie :) 	
[13:42]	Peewee Musytari 	land is a bit all over the place with a bit in each section 	
[13:42]	Yann 	sorry my english typos if i have some fault :) 	
[13:42]	Lexie 	I think Avatar and fashion could merge 	
[13:42]	Dresden Ceriano 	true peewee 	
[13:42]	Venus Petrov 	I think there was so much enthusiasm early on at being able to HAVE subforums...we kind of went overboard 	
[13:42]	Marianne McCann 	Agreed 	
[13:42]	Luc Starsider 	With fashion, you could be talking about creating fashion 	
[13:42]	Lexie 	I think sports and events could merge? 	
[13:42]	Venus Petrov 	yes 	
[13:42]	COCOON 	it is better to start wild and to end calm ^^ 	
[13:42]	Lord of Dee 	No 	
[13:42]	Marianne McCann 	/me nods 	
[13:42]	COCOON 	lol 	
[13:42]	Luc Starsider 	Shoud that still go in Avatar, or in content creation 	
[13:42]	Peewee Musytari 	yep 	
[13:42]	Luc Starsider 	? 	
[13:42]	Venus Petrov 	you would know, Wildcat lol 	
[13:43]	COCOON 	haha 	
[13:43]	Dresden Ceriano 	no one uses it for creation i don't believe 	
[13:43]	Lexie 	hmm 	
[13:43]	Luc Starsider 	Ah, Avatar it is, then 	
[13:43]	Qie 	In fact... the same is true of Blog categories. It's not as if there's such a flood of blog posts that it really matters that they're categorized at all. 	
[13:43]	Peewee Musytari 	fashion and avatar seem more of a match than fashion and content creation 	
[13:43]	Lexie 	I think so too Peewee 	
[13:43]	Luc Starsider 	True 	
[13:43]	COCOON 	yep 	
[13:44]	Luc Starsider 	Just asking 	
[13:44]	Venus Petrov 	Sports/Music & Entertainment 	
[13:44]	Dresden Ceriano 	events/music and entertainment/sports 	
[13:44]	Dresden Ceriano 	lol 	
[13:44]	Venus Petrov 	si Dres lol 	
[13:44]	Peewee Musytari 	yes dres I agree 	
[13:44]	Lexie 	would that be too much Dresden? 	
[13:44]	Dresden Ceriano 	i don't believe 	
[13:44]	Dresden Ceriano 	look at the post counts 	
[13:44]	Venus Petrov 	/me agrees w/ Dres 	
[13:44]	Peewee Musytari 	is all related to stuff to do 	
[13:44]	Lexie 	I can look at the total numbers for those and see what it would end up being all together 	
[13:45]	Dresden Ceriano 	it calle all go under entertainment 	
[13:45]	COCOON 	ok we wait Lexie (while you calculate ^^) 	
[13:45]	Dresden Ceriano 	could* 	
[13:45]	Lexie 	lol 	
[13:45]	Venus Petrov 	look at it this way, too, it could save Mod resource from moving things around 	
[13:45]	Lexie 	ha! Thats actually true Venus 	
[13:45]	Venus Petrov 	fewer places to move to 	
[13:45]	COCOON 	cost savings!!!! 	
[13:45]	Venus Petrov 	YES 	
[13:45]	Lexie 	I see many "Moved" notices 	
[13:45]	Venus Petrov 	bingo 	
[13:45]	Lord of Dee 	You'll kill some categories if you merge them sports is very niche, it should have visibility 	
[13:45]	Venus Petrov 	exactly 	
[13:46]	Peewee Musytari 	i see the new name for feedback didn`t stop the multi posts in there...people just like posting there lol 	
[13:46]	Lexie 	SPorts is very quiet though Lord of Dee 	
[13:46]	Venus Petrov 	they see Lindens responding and wanna be heard 	
[13:46]	Void Singer 	Eddi, I hope you don't mind, I updated your feature request 	
[13:46]	Dresden Ceriano 	i'd like to see make friends and lifestyles combind but i'm willing to bet that won't fly 	
[13:46]	Venus Petrov 	even QUESTIONS get posted there..rather than under ANSWERS lol 	
[13:46]	COCOON 	sports is named wrong ....... should have been (sailing/flying/racing) 	
[13:46]	Luc Starsider 	They seem to do more double posting now than before 	
[13:47]	COCOON 	sailing is an extreme large community 	
[13:47]	Lord of Dee 	Yeah that's the point, people don't know they're here, I didn't know American Football went on here until that forum was created 	
[13:47]	Venus Petrov 	i agree w/ Friends and Lifestyles (for the rich and famous) 	
[13:47]	Lexie 	Yes, and questions can now be moved to Answers where they belong. You will all see some of that activity happening 	
[13:47]	Lexie 	ok, lets think about Sports, maybe leave it be and build up the description 	
[13:47]	Dresden Ceriano 	=Pvenus 	
[13:47]	Dresden Ceriano 	lol 	
[13:48]	Venus Petrov 	If the subforum descriptor says 'sports' people will know to post there or look 	
[13:48]	Void Singer 	I think part of the problem is skimming.... people see "Answers" and "knowledge base" and "feedback" and don't bother to parse the specific nature 	
[13:48]	Venus Petrov 	lol 	
[13:48]	Lord of Dee 	Or have a sub heading on the forums so people know what should go there and good point about sailing 	
[13:48]	Peewee Musytari 	making friends is a good one on its own...we get to send people there when they ask how do I meet people? 	
[13:48]	Venus Petrov 	Making Friends and Relationships...let them plunge in! 	
[13:48]	Venus Petrov 	/me laughs 	
[13:48]	COCOON 	and dating ^^ 	
[13:48]	Peewee Musytari 	eeps 	
[13:48]	Venus Petrov 	ahahahaha 	
[13:48]	Lexie 	Making friends is a fairly active board 	
[13:49]	Peewee Musytari 	I agree lexie 	
[13:49]	Venus Petrov 	Dates with Lexi should be a separate subforum 	
[13:49]	Lexie 	rofll 	
[13:49]	DogWomble Dollinger	and the fact that asking to do the hoohaa is not appropriate on a pg sim? :P 	
[13:49]	Venus Petrov 	lol 	
[13:49]	Luc Starsider 	lol 	
[13:49]	Peewee Musytari 	they have cute little noob chats there 	
[13:49]	Dresden Ceriano 	i was hoping to consolidate the community a littkle 	
[13:49]	Peewee Musytari 	its funny 	
[13:49]	COCOON 	the STORM forum 	
[13:49]	Void Singer 	lol Wild.... yeah might as well teach em to swim by tossing them in with the sharks =X 	
[13:49]	Venus Petrov 	hehe 	
[13:49]	COCOON 	rofl void 	
[13:49]	Venus Petrov 	Wildcat, he reads these notes ahahahaha 	
[13:49]	COCOON 	I am candor ^^ 	
[13:50]	Venus Petrov 	of course! 	
[13:50]	Lexie 	ok, so lets put these ideas in that forum thread:Forum consolidation ideas from residents 	
[13:50]	COCOON 	;o) 	
[13:50]	Lexie 	http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Forums-Blogs-Answers-and/Forum-Consolidation/m-p/876807#M3978 	
[13:50]	Dresden Ceriano 	i have... i guess i could try harder 	
[13:50]	Lexie 	I will ask Raymond and Amanda to take a look there too 	
[13:50]	Venus Petrov 	How much longer do you wish to seek feedback before making some decisions, Lexie? 	
[13:50]	Lord of Dee 	How about advertising the forums too, you've tweaked and changed and people won't know what's available, give them a boost 	
[13:51]	Peewee Musytari 	someone wanted something brought up at the meeting and I forgot what it was lol 	
[13:51]	COCOON 	lol peewee 	
[13:51]	Lexie 	Id like to make some changes middle of next week if possible 	
[13:51]	Peewee Musytari 	who remembers the post? 	
[13:51]	Venus Petrov 	ok cool 	
[13:51]	Peewee Musytari 	hehe 	
[13:51]	Void Singer 	doncha hate that.... people do that to me all the time.... hey ask about xyz... 	
[13:51]	Lexie 	Lord of Dee, yes..we need to promote the forums and we are working on ideas! 	
[13:51]	Marianne McCann 	Agreed, ciaran. Give 'em a MotD spot or something 	
[13:51]	Dresden Ceriano 	god then we'll come back and tell you guys what other changes you have to make 	
[13:51]	Lexie 	good thought 	
[13:51]	Lord of Dee 	Good call Mari 	
[13:51]	Dresden Ceriano 	lol 	
[13:51]	Dresden Ceriano 	good* 	
[13:52]	Lord of Dee 	Where's Amanda? 	
[13:52]	Lexie 	conference 	
[13:52]	Lord of Dee 	ah good to know she hasn't left 	
[13:52]	Lexie 	I wanted to point out that we are doing polls every week on the forums. 	
[13:53]	Lexie 	Lets bring the fun back ㋡ 	
[13:53]	Venus Petrov 	yes i saw the first one 	
[13:53]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	i asgree 	
[13:53]	Lisa Fossett 	Such as, Lexie? 	
[13:53]	Lexie 	New one is up today and doesnt require you to watch 12 videos lol 	
[13:53]	Luc Starsider 	You should advertise the polls on the login screen in the viewer 	
[13:53]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	jeremy's challenge to be a streaker in ll offices? 	
[13:53]	Peewee Musytari 	oooh I found it...it was about ways to make the advanced mode default 	
[13:53]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	that'sd be a good poll 	
[13:54]	Jeremy Linden 	/me doesn't think the office would appreciate that. 	
[13:54]	Lexie 	Lisa, I think its great ..all the serious feedback and help and discussions on the forums. But, laughing is good too. I just want more of that!! 	
[13:54]	Lord of Dee 	Agreed Lexie 	
[13:54]	Lisa Fossett 	I agree...just hadn't seen it so was curious what it was :) 	
[13:54]	Venus Petrov 	Laughter is good for the soul 	
[13:54]	Marianne McCann 	Especially downstaies, jeremy 	
[13:55]	Peewee Musytari 	Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a debug setting for AdvancedMode yet, or if there is one it hasn't been published. 	
[13:55]	Yann 	Thank Void :) 	
[13:55]	Lexie 	The recent poll is a bit funny but I would love your suggestions for more! 	
[13:55]	Qie 	Okay, I'm a n00b: Where is this poll? 	
[13:55]	Lexie 	That might make a better jira Peewee 	
[13:56]	Peewee Musytari 	kk I`ll tell rolig 	
[13:56]	Lexie 	http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Forums/ct-p/Forums Qie 	
[13:56]	Lexie 	right side at the top 	
[13:56]	Qie 	oh! thanks. sorry, I was scanning for a thread. 	
[13:56]	Lexie 	We are almost out of time..and we did not get to the hub discussion. So I will leave that on there for the next meeting! 	
[13:56]	Lisa Fossett 	Funny, Lexie :) 	
[13:57]	Lexie 	: )) 	
[13:57]	DogWomble Dollinger	i could add one sort of relevant option to that poll 	
[13:57]	DogWomble Dollinger	"wondered why you can't cam aroudn a youtube video" 	
[13:57]	Lexie 	hahah 	
[13:57]	Lexie 	nice Dog 	
[13:57]	Dresden Ceriano 	oh lord I could tell a few good stories about the first thing alone 	
[13:57]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	"ever yelled onigokko in an rl queue" 	
[13:57]	Peewee Musytari 	can we post threads as polls instead of discussions? 	
[13:57]	Lisa Fossett 	Done that, Dog 	
[13:57]	DogWomble Dollinger	haha lisa, as have i :) 	
[13:57]	Lexie 	You can, sure 	
[13:57]	Lord of Dee 	ah that's like when people post screenshots with scroll bars and I try and use the scroll bar on the screenshot 	
[13:57]	Lexie 	hha I do that too Dog 	
[13:58]	Lexie 	I mean Lord 	
[13:58]	Dresden Ceriano 	can anyone start a poll? 	
[13:58]	Marianne McCann 	/me has been known to try to cam around screen shots 	
[13:58]	Lexie 	no, only community managers 	
[13:58]	Dresden Ceriano 	oh okay 	
[13:58]	Luc Starsider 	Me too, marianne. 	
[13:58]	Lexie 	But you can do a poll thread style 	
[13:58]	Void Singer 	@PeeWee: there is a way to do it... I managed it on accident, so I'll have to experiment.... all basic mode does is use one settings file instead of another 	
[13:58]	Dresden Ceriano 	yeah 	
[13:59]	Peewee Musytari 	can poll threads be added with voting 	
[13:59]	Lexie 	I may also start some fun threads soon so..dont think Ive gone crazy or anything. Just bringing more fun back ㋡ 	
[13:59]	Void Singer 	/me welcomes fun 	
[13:59]	Peewee Musytari 	we like fun hehe 	
[13:59]	Lexie 	Anything esle before we wrap up? 	
[13:59]	COCOON 	yep ^^ 	
[13:59]	Venus Petrov 	People also think controversial topics are fun 	
[13:59]	Void Singer 	.... hi Fun how ya doing? 	
[13:59]	Dresden Ceriano 	fun is fun 	
[14:00]	Venus Petrov 	lol 	
[14:00]	Void Singer 	.... see 	
[14:00]	DogWomble Dollinger	venus ... maybe a religion and politics forum then? :) 	
[14:00]	Lexie 	noooo 	
[14:00]	Marianne McCann 	Have fun all! See ya next time! 	
[14:00]	Lexie 	lol 	
[14:00]	Peewee Musytari 	any idea when answers will be fixed...days or weeks? 	
[14:00]	Venus Petrov 	yes! 	
[14:00]	Lord of Dee 	Definitely no 	
[14:00]	Lisa Fossett 	lol 	
[14:00]	Venus Petrov 	lol 	
[14:00]	Dresden Ceriano 	oh holy hell 	
[14:00]	Venus Petrov 	yes! 	
[14:00]	Void Singer 	bye mari! 	
[14:00]	Lexie 	Thansk for coming! See you all next week! 	
[14:00]	Marianne McCann 	Bye Bye!! 	
[14:00]	Lord of Dee 	Cheers guys 	
[14:00]	DogWomble Dollinger	thanks lexie :) 	
[14:00]	Venus Petrov 	thanks Lexie et al 	
[14:00]	Lisa Fossett 	bye, MM 	
[14:00]	Qie 	thanks Lexie 	
[14:00]	Luc Starsider 	Bye everybody 	
[14:00]	COCOON 	bye everyone ;o) 	
[14:00]	Lexie 	Bye for now ㋡ 	
[14:00]	Peewee Musytari 	thanks lexie ...good meeting 	
[14:01]	Jeremy Linden 	Rand, you got the transcript? 	
[14:01]	Rand 	Byall all 	
[14:01]	Rand 	yep i got it jeremy 	
[14:01]	Venus Petrov 	takes care not to step on beeeee 	
[14:01]	Dresden Ceriano 	thanks =)~ 	
[14:01]	Peewee Musytari 	ty rand & jeremy too :) 	
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