Bug triage/2009-04-13/Transcript

* [11:58] Alexa Linden: we're working off of https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Monday_Agenda today
* [11:58] Techwolf Lupindo: gave you Phoenixegg.
* [11:59] Squirrel Wood: Attention residents, this block contains potential civil infection. Inform, co-operate, assemble.
* [11:59] Moon Metty: hi Rifkin :)
* [11:59] Rifkin Habsburg: Hello
* [11:59] Alexa Linden: lol squirrel
* [11:59] Squirrel Wood: Citizen reminder, inaction is conspiracy, report counter behaviour to a civil protection team immediately.
* [11:59] Squirrel Wood: ^^
* [11:59] Alexa Linden: she scares me
* [11:59] Squirrel Wood: let's start?
* [12:00] Squirrel Wood: Priority warning. Ten seconds to singularity.
* [12:00] Kona Linden: We shall!
* [12:00] Kona Linden: Ok kiddies, buckle up...we're taking off
* [12:00] Moon Metty: woot!
* [12:00] Kona Linden: *presses the eject button*
* [12:00] Kona Linden: oops
* [12:00] WolfPup Lowenhar: lol kona
* [12:00] Moon Metty: take your floating pills
* [12:00] Kona Linden: Ok boyz & girlz....
* [12:01] Kona Linden: Fast Track Topic...first up....
* [12:01] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4100
* [12:01] Kona Linden: 1.26.1 Server: Owner and Next Owner permissions are reversed when rezzing objects via scripts, linking the object to the rezzor and breaking the link
* [12:01] Techwolf Lupindo: looks at the very long bug list....
* [12:01] Harleen Gretzky: This is fixed in 1.26.2, and imported, just needs Fix Pending resolution
* [12:01] Alexa Linden: I asked Maestro and he said he doesn't want to make as fixed yet... they are still testing a few things
* [12:02] Kona Linden: kk
* [12:02] Harleen Gretzky: OK
* [12:02] Kona Linden: Alexa, we still need to change status then?
* [12:02] Alexa Linden: so I'll check back in a few days...
* [12:02] Kona Linden: kk
* [12:02] Alexa Linden: I'll mark triaged date for now
* [12:02] Alexa Linden: then check in
* [12:03] Kona Linden: kk...next
* [12:03] xstorm Radek: hi Soft
* [12:03] Techwolf Lupindo: Hi soft
* [12:03] Soft Linden: Hey hey
* [12:03] xstorm Radek: :-)
* [12:03] Harleen Gretzky: Hi Soft
* [12:03] Squirrel Wood: hullos
* [12:03] WolfPup Lowenhar: hello soft
* [12:03] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4107
* [12:03] Moon Metty: hi Soft :)
* [12:03] Kona Linden: Changing object permissions in inventory sets owner permissions to new owner permissions
* [12:03] Harleen Gretzky: This one got imported this morning also
* [12:04] Alexa Linden: ooh fast
* [12:04] Kona Linden: yep
* [12:04] Moon Metty: SVC-4107 must be connected to SVC-4100
* [12:04] Eata Kitty: Hasn't it always been the case that things go odd when you edit perms on objects via your inventory
* [12:04] Kona Linden: yep
* [12:04] Moon Metty: as in having the same root
* [12:04] Alexa Linden: +1
* [12:05] Harleen Gretzky: But 1.26.2 fixed 4100 and not 4107
* [12:05] Moon Metty: right O_O
* [12:05] Squirrel Wood: sometimes you have no choice but edit them in your inventory
* [12:05] Kona Linden: Alexa...we change status on 4107 then?
* [12:05] Soft Linden: So this is already imported and assigned
* [12:05] Kona Linden: kk
* [12:05] Alexa Linden: yup
* [12:05] Techwolf Lupindo: I've been recomminding to new user to edit perm only rezed in world as strange things happen if done in inventory.
* [12:06] Kona Linden: yep, I do to
* [12:06] Kona Linden: too
* [12:06] Kona Linden: kk, next one then
* [12:06] Harleen Gretzky: It is useful for certain things, once you understand how the slam bit works
* [12:06] Techwolf Lupindo: <-- Proud Poachers Inc. customer.
* [12:06] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4093
* [12:06] Moon Metty: SVC-4107 = SVC-4093
* [12:06] Kona Linden: since sever update to 1.26. i have to set all perms for next owner to full in my inventory b4 i rez them to edit
* [12:07] Harleen Gretzky: This appears to be a dupe of SVC-4107
* [12:07] Alexa Linden: agreed
* [12:07] Kona Linden: ditto
* [12:07] Harleen Gretzky: same with teh next SVC-4101
* [12:07] Kona Linden: relates etc...
* [12:07] Alexa Linden: k
* [12:07] Alexa Linden: tying them all together
* [12:08] Kona Linden: same with the remaining...
* [12:08] Alexa Linden: wow that was fast...
* [12:08] Alexa Linden: now we're up to patches :D
* [12:08] Kona Linden: Patch time
* [12:08] Moon Metty: :)
* [12:08] Techwolf Lupindo: About time. :-)
* [12:08] Alexa Linden: lol
* [12:08] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-12691
* [12:08] Kona Linden: Dangerous macro leads to possible wrong code
* [12:09] Soft Linden: Yeah, this is pretty straightforward.
* [12:09] Harleen Gretzky: A lot of ppl are asking if 1.26.1 is going to be rolled back due to teh fast track issues thiugh
* [12:09] Soft Linden: If you want to import and assign to me, it will just take a sec to do.
* [12:09] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:09] Alexa Linden: thanks soft
* [12:09] Kona Linden: Soft ftw!
* [12:09] Soft Linden: whoo hoo
* [12:09] Kona Linden: next: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-12655
* [12:09] Kona Linden: Add support for displaying the title of the song playing on the stream
* [12:10] Kona Linden: FR
* [12:10] Harleen Gretzky: cool
* [12:10] Alexa Linden: I love this reature inworld
* [12:10] Soft Linden: This shouldn't be imported yet - it's not done. Still needs quicktime support.
* [12:10] Alexa Linden: but more blue screens..... :p
* [12:10] Kona Linden: ahhh, yes
* [12:10] Moon Metty: i've seen it scripted
* [12:10] Alexa Linden: me too
* [12:10] Kona Linden: they're still testin this one...
* [12:10] Alexa Linden: last triage date?
* [12:10] Soft Linden: Yeah.
* [12:10] Kona Linden: yes, please
* [12:10] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:10] Techwolf Lupindo: This info would be perfect for a status bar somewhere on the client.
* [12:11] Alexa Linden: agreed
* [12:11] Soft Linden: er not quicktime. fmod. but still.
* [12:11] Kona Linden: next: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-12748
* [12:11] Soft Linden: Yeah - the discussion is about doing it in a popup window, and optionally to the chat log.
* [12:11] Kona Linden: Increase MiniMap zoom range, and magnify avatar markers at higher zoom levels
* [12:11] Kona Linden: hmmm
* [12:12] Soft Linden: This could be imported for Rx's blessing, I think.
* [12:12] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:12] Kona Linden: kk
* [12:12] Soft Linden: The mini map is a bit more useful at higher zooms since the friend indicators are there now.
* [12:12] Techwolf Lupindo: I notice there is a somewhat a status bar on the client now, the one bar that shows the time, L$, and location. That may be a good spot.
* [12:13] Dirk Talamasca: I have never found it useful for anything. It would be nice to see something added that made it useful
* [12:13] Kona Linden: k, next
* [12:13] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-12678
* [12:13] Kona Linden: disable crashlogger via client parameters
* [12:13] Soft Linden: Merov is evaluating this one for the open source branch. I'd just mark the triage date.
* [12:13] Alexa Linden: ok soft
* [12:13] Kona Linden: nice
* [12:14] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-12717
* [12:14] Kona Linden: Improved fonts.xml selection for Chinese, Korean, Japanese in 1.23 (trunk) viewer
* [12:14] Soft Linden: Nice
* [12:14] Soft Linden: I'd take this in for the l10n folks
* [12:15] Kona Linden: yeah
* [12:15] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:15] Kona Linden: there might be further tweaking to this, but that can be assessed by that team
* [12:15] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4068
* [12:15] Kona Linden: LSL: Boolean Typecast
* [12:16] Techwolf Lupindo: I can use that. I've just started to do some LSL and was looking for that...couldn't find it.
* [12:16] Soft Linden: Huh.
* [12:16] Soft Linden: I'd import and add Periapse and Babbage as watchers
* [12:16] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:16] Moon Metty: good
* [12:16] Kona Linden: nice
* [12:17] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-12766
* [12:17] Kona Linden: Text entry box disabled on received group IM sessions
* [12:17] Soft Linden: This should already be fixed in 1.23RC0... one sec and I'll find the internal
* [12:17] Moon Metty: though Peri is going to work on client things from now
* [12:18] Kona Linden: K, while Soft finds the internal, let's move on
* [12:18] Soft Linden: If you want to move on, I can ... yeah
* [12:18] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:18] Alexa Linden: lol
* [12:18] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-12696
* [12:18] Kona Linden: Minimap object overlay blurred, or only rendered within a restricted area after resizing the floater
* [12:19] Soft Linden: The prior one was DEV-29370
* [12:19] Alexa Linden: thanks soft
* [12:19] Kona Linden: Soft ftw!
* [12:19] Kona Linden: huh...
* [12:20] Kona Linden: import
* [12:20] Kona Linden: but should this go to RX tho, Soft?
* [12:21] Soft Linden: The mini map one? Naw, just viewer triage
* [12:21] Kona Linden: kk
* [12:21] Soft Linden: Looks like a bug, not a feature request/change
* [12:21] Soft Linden: I can't repro it though. But we should have someone who knows the mini map in the next triage.
* [12:21] xstorm Radek: ?
* [12:22] Kona Linden: kk, next...the HAWT stuff
* [12:22] xstorm Radek: mini map looks fine to me
* [12:22] WolfPup Lowenhar: i think i see what he is talking about
* [12:22] WolfPup Lowenhar: you have to be on a hd monitor
* [12:22] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1519
* [12:22] Kona Linden: Forwarding email to in-world object bounces
* [12:22] xstorm Radek: im on a 30" wide screen HDR
* [12:23] Kona Linden: nice
* [12:23] Moon Metty: Last Triaged: 06/Apr/09 12:00 PM
* [12:23] xstorm Radek: whats the matter with the mini map ?
* [12:23] Harleen Gretzky: It was resolved NMI and reopened
* [12:23] Eata Kitty: Yeah I remember that one
* [12:23] Moon Metty: ahh
* [12:23] xstorm Radek: it opens , close and crash
* [12:23] xstorm Radek: not much problems there
* [12:24] Soft Linden: Last time we peeked at this, we asked if any non-gmail users had this problem.
* [12:24] Alexa Linden: Alexa, did anyone check if it actually is the extra "rfc822;" added to the key of the object and the missing space in front of it? If i look up "rfc822;" then i get that it is the "STANDARD FOR THE FORMAT OF ARPA INTERNET TEXT MESSAGES".
* In my opinion its either gmail not sticking to the standards for forwarding mails or the servers of Linden Lab being unable to identify the extra added information to forwarded mails.
* Gordon can you please say which e-mail provider you used for the forwarding?
* [12:24] Alexa Linden: no idea what that means, sorry
* [12:24] Alexa Linden: soft or kona?
* [12:24] Soft Linden: This is -probably- a gmail address formatting problem.
* [12:24] Soft Linden: I'd tak it in for core triage, and add Kelly as a watcher
* [12:24] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:25] Kona Linden: thanks, Soft
* [12:25] Soft Linden: thumbsup!
* [12:25] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3075
* [12:25] Kona Linden: Objects allowed to enter "No Object Entry" land against SIM borders.
* [12:25] Kona Linden: yeah, this one gets some folks really pissy
* [12:26] Soft Linden: I think this is a dupe of SVC-1816
* [12:26] xstorm Radek: i know skype makes problems with SL when you run the two at the same time it will freez and crash
* [12:26] Alexa Linden: ok, I'll mark as dup
* [12:26] Kona Linden: yeah
* [12:26] Gellan Glenelg: so do I Soft, but 1816 isn't getting any attention
* [12:26] Soft Linden: And that's a dupe of at least one SEC- issue...
* [12:26] Kona Linden: k, next: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2726
* [12:27] Kona Linden: all inventory folders open
* [12:27] Soft Linden: SVC-1816 should be imported though, if the other one would have been
* [12:27] Alexa Linden: ok will import 1816 too
* [12:28] Alexa Linden: after linking and resolving first one
* [12:28] Kona Linden: kk
* [12:28] xstorm Radek: eeepppp
* [12:28] Alexa Linden: on 2726 is this confusion on the new option
* [12:28] Alexa Linden: whereinventory opens when you receive something
* [12:28] Harleen Gretzky: doesn't repro for me either
* [12:28] Kona Linden: +1
* [12:28] xstorm Radek: nope
* [12:28] WolfPup Lowenhar: i have seen that one and just marked it off to the way inventory is handles whe you have show obj in inventor after recipt checked
* [12:28] Alexa Linden: under pop-ups
* [12:29] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9974
* [12:29] Kona Linden: Snapshot: High-res snapshot results in 3 striped images or 9 tiled images
* [12:29] Techwolf Lupindo: Folder poping open and closing without user permission can really be furstrating for inventory manament.
* [12:29] Kona Linden: sorta cool this one
* [12:29] Kona Linden: thought not intended
* [12:29] Moon Metty: :D
* [12:29] Soft Linden: Could someone attach a movie to the folder one?
* [12:29] Soft Linden: The repro text is making my brain hurt.
* [12:29] xstorm Radek: thats more like a error on owners software side
* [12:29] Dirk Talamasca: I cannot dupe it although obviously many others can
* [12:30] Kona Linden: lol
* [12:30] Kona Linden: Dirk, user error
* [12:30] Alexa Linden: I'll look at it soft
* [12:30] Kona Linden: *snicker*
* [12:30] Dirk Talamasca: LOL
* [12:30] Squirrel Wood: Who is general failure and why is he reading my disk drive? :p
* [12:30] Kona Linden: I'm just sayin...
* [12:30] Soft Linden: I think this snapshot one is fixed. I'd ask if it's still happening in 1.22
* [12:30] Moon Metty: nuts!
* [12:30] Soft Linden: (Or is it for anyone here?)
* [12:31] Alexa Linden: k
* [12:31] xstorm Radek: its a owner side error i say
* [12:31] Eata Kitty: I just took one
* [12:31] Squirrel Wood: pebcac?
* [12:31] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1520
* [12:31] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:31] Kona Linden: Items Rezzed In World Disappearing
* [12:31] Alexa Linden: I haven't seen it in a while either
* [12:32] Eata Kitty: Woah
* [12:32] Eata Kitty: I get crazyness in the water reflections
* [12:32] Kona Linden: hmmmm
* [12:32] Kona Linden: I've not seen this one in some time...
* [12:32] Alexa Linden: still a problem again?
* [12:32] Alexa Linden: nmi
* [12:33] Soft Linden: yeah, nmi
* [12:33] Kona Linden: umm...lemme check DB on this one
* [12:33] Kona Linden: acct might need "flushing"
* [12:33] Techwolf Lupindo: Please make sure to add _what_ nmi is needed.
* [12:33] Kona Linden: I'll comment on my results
* [12:33] Alexa Linden: yup
* [12:33] Alexa Linden: clear cache, etc
* [12:34] Kona Linden: next
* [12:34] xstorm Radek: starts to think there needs to be 2 SL platforms for some OS
* [12:34] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2689
* [12:34] Kona Linden: While on beta grid on server 1.23 noticed that either one of two functions are destroyed.
* [12:34] Alexa Linden: 2 can't repros last year
* [12:34] Soft Linden: This is old.
* [12:35] Soft Linden: NMI for whether it's still happening, say I!
* [12:35] Kerry Giha: This Items dissapearing in world one could be that his continer somewhere has a script with llDie in it, I had that happen to a fireplace before
* [12:35] Moon Metty: oh Harleen crashed
* [12:35] Kona Linden: kk
* [12:35] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:35] Kona Linden: next...
* [12:35] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3716
* [12:35] Kona Linden: llEmail() to an external email addres fails since jan/18 2009
* [12:36] Alexa Linden: I commented on this
* [12:36] Soft Linden: I'm still getting emails daily. Not broken everywhere, for sure.
* [12:36] Moon Metty: welcome back Harleen
* [12:36] Alexa Linden: as did ellla with a status for what was going on
* [12:36] Alexa Linden: WB Harleen :)
* [12:36] Kona Linden: WB
* [12:36] Harleen Gretzky: ty :)
* [12:37] Alexa Linden: I'm still getting all my inworld IMs
* [12:37] Kona Linden: me too
* [12:37] Kona Linden: unfortunately...rofl
* [12:37] Soft Linden: The last comment claims that we're not following an RFC
* [12:37] Alexa Linden: both linden and resident
* [12:37] Harleen Gretzky: I still get external emails from my inworld vendors
* [12:38] Soft Linden: I'd resolve the issue can't repro, and suggest they create a new issue for the RFC noncompliance if they still think that's valid.
* [12:38] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:38] Kona Linden: sounds good
* [12:38] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-954
* [12:38] Kona Linden: Deleted user's Objects cannot be removed in bulk using the Estate Manager window.
* [12:39] Soft Linden: Yeah. Dupe of Misc-313
* [12:39] Kona Linden: kk
* [12:39] Alexa Linden: k
* [12:39] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1411
* [12:39] Kona Linden: Mac Voice Viewer doesn't allow you to specify OSX Core Audio devices channels
* [12:40] Kona Linden: hmmm...4 mos since last comment
* [12:40] Kona Linden: import then?
* [12:40] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:40] Soft Linden: Ugh. It's valid I guess. But would affect a tiiiiiiny number of users.
* [12:41] Kona Linden: poke it with a fork and we'll see
* [12:41] Soft Linden: I guess I'd import, and add Monroe as a watcher
* [12:41] Alexa Linden: check
* [12:41] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3849
* [12:41] Kona Linden: .12.15.07: Group owner can not view all members in group details
* [12:42] Eata Kitty: Has anyone seen a bug where setting parcel in your picks sets the location as having the parcel owners name rather than the parcel name. I just had that today trying to set one
* [12:42] Kona Linden: I remember this one
* [12:42] Techwolf Lupindo: Mac user expect things to just work. If not, they move on.
* [12:42] Soft Linden: This probably relates to a user who's suspended/closed, but is still a group member.
* [12:42] Kona Linden: that's a pain
* [12:43] Soft Linden: This should be in SVC, and could go to core triage.
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: like this eata? Liana Linden, Hippotropolis Theater, Hippotropolis (241, 8, 26)
* [12:43] Eata Kitty: Yes
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: wierd
* [12:43] Eata Kitty: it seems to affect old ones too
* [12:43] Eata Kitty: I have one for Novum in my pics that has become wrong
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: wow it does
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: all my old picks have it now
* [12:43] Kona Linden: k, reproduceable then
* [12:43] Eata Kitty: Well I have one that is right and another that is wrong
* [12:44] Eata Kitty: But new ones seem to be made wrong
* [12:44] Kona Linden: import it goes
* [12:44] Kona Linden: next
* [12:44] Moon Metty: hmmm lol
* [12:44] xstorm Radek: is it a OS glich ?
* [12:44] Kona Linden: hmm
* [12:45] WolfPup Lowenhar: which jira we on i just had my chat jump
* [12:45] Dirk Talamasca: Eata, I am wondering if that may be related in some way to landmarks no longer showing a description in parcel information as they once did
* [12:45] Kona Linden: about to do: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3879
* [12:45] Alexa Linden: random observation time woldpup
* [12:45] Kona Linden: Underground Prims Visible through Linden Grass
* [12:45] Eata Kitty: Shall I file a Jira?
* [12:45] Alexa Linden: yes please
* [12:46] Alexa Linden: then ping me, I'll add to it and import
* [12:46] Kona Linden: Alexa FTW
* [12:46] Eata Kitty: I assume its a viewer bug as viewers can still display correct parcel names
* [12:46] Squirrel Wood: Group member lists already show a "last online" column. How hard would it be to add one to your friends list ?
* [12:47] Alexa Linden: I'd love a LM to see this personally
* [12:47] Kona Linden: for 3879?
* [12:47] Alexa Linden: ya
* [12:47] Alexa Linden: see if it's glow, etc
* [12:48] Alexa Linden: test settings
* [12:48] Kona Linden: yep
* [12:48] Dirk Talamasca: What load would it place on the database to load all of your friends "last seen information" each time you login?
* [12:48] Harleen Gretzky: JIRAwas entered before glow I think
* [12:48] Techwolf Lupindo: (Is there a way to find who invited you to a group after dismissing the blue window?)
* [12:48] Alexa Linden: right I notices that too
* [12:48] Alexa Linden: noticed*
* [12:48] Kona Linden: Techwolf, not that I know of
* [12:48] Kona Linden: local chat history?
* [12:48] Kona Linden: nope
* [12:49] Techwolf Lupindo: Not there. I'll look on jira and file a new one if needed.
* [12:49] Squirrel Wood: Dirk, likely not more than pulling the "is online" information it does.
* [12:49] Kona Linden: 3879...NMI?
* [12:49] Alexa Linden: any other ideas for 3879?
* [12:50] Kona Linden: CoyoteAngel still marks it as an issue...import then
* [12:50] Dirk Talamasca: Being that, that is a bit quirky, I'd love to see a refresh on friends list. I often message people that show as online although they have signed off
* [12:50] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:50] WolfPup Lowenhar: migte be in the trerain and flex prim settings?
* [12:50] Squirrel Wood: 3879.. video repro would be teh hit
* [12:50] Soft Linden: 3879 seems like it would be really quick to try in QA
* [12:50] Alexa Linden: agreed
* [12:50] Kona Linden: kk
* [12:50] Alexa Linden: I'd still like to know prim settings
* [12:51] Alexa Linden: glow, alpha, etc
* [12:51] Kona Linden: me too
* [12:51] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-4098
* [12:51] Das Colman: Hi Everyone, Sorry im late, was eating
* [12:51] Kona Linden: Avatar hands frequently and seemingly randomly go open with spread fingers.
* [12:51] Kona Linden: Hi Das
* [12:51] Harleen Gretzky: Teh dupe https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-5998 has a location described to check it out
* [12:51] Alexa Linden: it eh grass is alpha and the texture of the prim was too.....
* [12:51] WolfPup Lowenhar: or even full bright/ bum map
* [12:51] WolfPup Lowenhar: bump*
* [12:51] Alexa Linden: thanks harleen!
* [12:51] Squirrel Wood: isn't/wasn't there a bug with animation uploads that would cause this ?
* [12:52] xstorm Radek: yes AV hands did this from time of beta
* [12:52] Kona Linden: yep
* [12:52] xstorm Radek: whats wrong with that ?
* [12:52] Alexa Linden: lol
* [12:52] Kona Linden: ROFL
* [12:52] xstorm Radek: i do not understand why they bug report that ?
* [12:52] Alexa Linden: a dup of VWR-1793 as suggested?
* [12:53] xstorm Radek: what do they wish the hand to do ?
* [12:53] Kona Linden: yeah
* [12:53] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:53] Alexa Linden: one more issue to set a new record of 25 items triaged?
* [12:53] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-947
* [12:53] Moon Metty: woot!
* [12:53] Kona Linden: Some last names are not completely retired
* [12:53] Kona Linden: just semi?
* [12:53] Kona Linden: lol
* [12:54] Squirrel Wood: may be intentionally ?
* [12:54] Eata Kitty: I dropped my hair and it appears to have disappeared D:
* [12:54] Alexa Linden: +1 Squirrel
* [12:54] WolfPup Lowenhar: for some it could be a distraction like it trying to do a 'photo' shoot
* [12:54] Soft Linden: Seeing underground stuff through this grass. Yeah.
* [12:54] Alexa Linden: I don't know this process well enough
* [12:54] Squirrel Wood: also, I'd like all windows users to repro something.....
* [12:54] Alexa Linden: I can import and ask for clarification
* [12:54] Kona Linden: kk
* [12:54] Alexa Linden: k
* [12:55] Alexa Linden: yes Squirrel?
* [12:55] Kona Linden: not sure what the protocol for names are now
* [12:55] Squirrel Wood: turn off the UI using ctrl-alt-f1 and then right-click several prims. you will see multiple particle rays. they won't vanish until you enable the ui again using ctrl-alt-f1
* [12:55] Alexa Linden: me neither
* [12:55] Kona Linden: we got time for one more
* [12:55] xstorm Radek: they do not retire the names do they ?
* [12:55] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:55] Kona Linden: We do actually
* [12:55] xstorm Radek: i have seen names come back up
* [12:55] Kona Linden: they just get pulled from the registration selection pool
* [12:56] Squirrel Wood: Names are recycled, yep
* [12:56] Kona Linden: kinda sad tho
* [12:56] xstorm Radek: why ?
* [12:56] xstorm Radek: you will run out of names if we did not
* [12:56] Kona Linden: cause the names often indicate a generational period
* [12:56] Moon Metty: i agree Kona
* [12:56] Kona Linden: but some are good ones
* [12:56] Alexa Linden: I get that result Squirrel
* [12:56] Das Colman: Leave the names ipen longer then
* [12:57] Squirrel Wood: You need to offer more last names that discourage griefers to choose them ^^
* [12:57] Harleen Gretzky: Old bug reported by Torely I think Squirrel
* [12:57] Kona Linden: ROFL
* [12:57] Kona Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1774
* [12:57] Dirk Talamasca: Heh, that's pretty cool. Squirrel
* [12:57] Kona Linden: MAP Greyed out again, Map not loading when zoomed out.
* [12:57] xstorm Radek: if you think that way there will be no cathys in the world ever again
* [12:57] Alexa Linden: lol
* [12:57] Kona Linden: no more Cathys?! Then we'll have to just do Kathys
* [12:57] Das Colman: But then 1 radek is enough
* [12:57] Soft Linden: I'd leave this issue be for now.
* [12:57] Alexa Linden: Thank you all for a stellar triage today
* [12:58] Techwolf Lupindo: on 1774, I think there is a patch to fix that problem when the sim uses megaprims that cover the entire map.
* [12:58] Squirrel Wood: Thank you for being here today ^^
* [12:58] Kona Linden: yes, thanks folks
* [12:58] Soft Linden: The way the map system delivers textures is being -completely- redone.
* [12:58] Alexa Linden: we did some serious damage!
* [12:58] Soft Linden: yay break things!
* [12:58] Kona Linden: Soft, yes
* [12:58] Moon Metty: lol
* [12:58] Kona Linden: good job folks