S and H (Starsky and Hutch letterzine)/Issues 06-10

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Sneak Preview: while the bulk of the letterzine contributors strive to maintain a civil tone even amidst their disagreements, the dual topics of zine reviews and m/m continue to be the focal point of intensified debate. Many voices are raised in concern over what they perceive to be a too critical tone to some reviews. The review of the zine Hopscotch is repeatably held up as an example of this trend. On the topic of m/m, a few writers dryly point out that the anti-m/m fans may be jumping the gun in their opposition as no m/m zines have been published - yet. And one fan points out that it wasn't the existence of K/S that fractured Star Trek fandom, it was some fans inability to deal with the topic in a mature and rational manner. We also see the stirring of overseas fandom as Australian fans report on their activities, and the first Starsky & Hutch convention in the UK (Dobeycon) is mentioned.
==S and H 6 (January 1980)==
* contains 48 pages
* a review of Crossfire, see that page
* a review of Syndizine #1, see that page
* a review of Dirtball Dispatch, see that page
* a review of Blond Blintz Bulletin, see that page
* three reviews of Hopscotch, see that page
* an Australian fan recounts being very grateful for FINALLY being able to view season four, but the episode order is at the whims of the local television station
* many fans tell horror stories of the editing and chopping of the episodes as they are being shown in their region: entire scenes are cut without rhyme or reason and there is no continuity
* some Australian fans thank others for the sound tapes they were sent. "Snitch, Target, and Sweet Revenge -- beautiful!"
* results of a questionnaire (60 were sent out, there were 39 replies). Note: this survey sparked The Pits Questionnaire a few months later. 
** Are you a Starsky or Hutch fan? (Starsky [15], Hutch [5], both [15])
**Is the show in syndication where you live? (yes [13], no [23])
**Do you own a VTR? (15 [yes, 5 with VHS, 4 with Beta, 1 with V-Cord, 1 with Quasar, 10 with Audio Cassettes)
**How old are you? (10-20 [3], 20-30 [21], 30-40 [12], 40-50 [3])
**"Do they" or "Don't they"? (7 say they "do", 26 say they "don't), one person said, "They did, but they don't anymore, but they could." 
* this issue contains a VERY long letter by a writer and well-known, long-time fan named [J C] which thoughtfully psychoanalyzes both characters
* a status update on two zines, One Shot and the mysterious and oft-asked for Starsky and Hutch Concordance: "Early 1980, mimeo with some off-set or Xerox art possible. SASE to me. And as far as I know, [name redacted] is nearly finished with the Concordance."
* a fan speculates on S/H and concludes that if they did have a sexual relationship, it would probably go bad and the Hutchinson guilt would kick in, and that added to the amount of emotional involvement they already have with each other, adding that element would be tying too much of them together; she cites the scene in the episode "Gillian" when Hutch freezes in the alley 
* a fan in the UK writes: 
* Signe Landon writes:
* Ruth Kurz writes: 
* Signe Landon refers the introduction to the novelization of the ST movie, see The Footnote: 
* Liz Tucker mentions Sherlock Holmes and m/m: 
* on the dawn of vidding, a fan writes of fanmixes: 
* a fan requests a change of vocabulary: 
* a new subscriber, Darla Doxstater, receives her first issue and comments: 
* reader hopes that fanon [not her word] wouldn't affect SH fiction: 
* keeping in mind there are no m/m zines published yet: a reader makes reference to two she has heard are in the works: 
* another reader comments: 
* a reader, Melanie Rawn, writes about being displeased by fans' desire to have Starsky and Hutch be the most important people in each other's lives (rather than their possible future wives): 
* fans are still discussing Solitaire, a story in Zebra Three #4 that deals with the episode "The Plague" and Hutch's thoughts on dying. One comment: 
* a fan is pleased with the tone of the letterzine, commenting on the controlled, civil exchange of ideas: 
* a subscriber, Marian Kelly, writes a lengthy, eloquent letter about fans writing "safe" stories: 
* a fan writes: 
* a subscriber is confused by a number of things, only one of which is this: 
* a fan wrote: 
* a reader addressed another reader: 
* from Nancy Hopson: 
* regarding reviews: 
* about Starsky and Hutch as homosexual: 
* more on sexuality: 
* from Kendra Hunter: 
* Penny Warren says it wasn't the question of K/S that fractured ST fandom, it was fan behavior: 
* an update on Bird of Paradise: 
* the editor says folks are getting too verbose and could folks limit their letters to two or less typewritten pages, that the great do-they-or-don't-they debate seems to be getting boring to most so: 
* from a fan in the UK: 
 Image:sh6insidekurz.jpg| from issue #6, Ruth Kurz 
 Image:sh6insidenewsome.jpg| from issue #6, Cheryl Newsome 
 Image:sh6insidekurz2.jpg| from issue #6, Ruth Kurz 
==S and H 7 (February 1980)==
* contains 44 pages
* many fans complain about having to keep their letters at two pages or less as requested by the editors
* fans talk fairly extensively about what song lyrics remind them of the show and the guys
* a fan was out of town and missed the Dinah Shore show (Dinah and Friends) and wants to know what were David Soul’s "comments on the gay issue."
* a fan states she doesn’t think of Starsky as little, though shorter than Hutch. Nor, despite that line in the episode ‘Losing Streak,’ as a teddy bear.
* the editors thank folks who sent in some extra stamps
* submissions are asked for another issue of Dirtball Dispatch and Blond Blintz Bulletin (a spooky, Halloween theme) to be printed in time for Zebra Con II (these zines never materialized)
* forthcoming zines: Me and Thee #2, One Shot, The Pits #2, L.A. Vespers, Bird of Paradise, Then We Can Be Heroes, Zebra Three #5, and Forever Autumn (“an adult S/H novel, projected pub date of April 1980, about 100 pages with illios and poetry, age statement required”)
* one fan explains how “Sweet Revenge” is her favorite episode: 
* one fan explains how: Sweet Revenge” was her least favorite episode: 
* a fan says: 
* a fan begs for the next Zebracon not to be in Los Angeles but somewhere in the Midwest. One reason: 
* a note on the proposed/perhaps partially written zine: "Assignment: Dave Starsky": 
* fans seemed to dislike the new show B.A.D. CATS: 
* a fan disagrees with another’s view that there’s a "distinction between ‘real’ writing and merely indulging fantasies: 
* a fan says "even ‘Wilderness’ in Zebra Three: 
* a fan comments on the widely-diverging review of the zine Hopscotch, that it 
* regarding a review of Hopscotch]: 
* a fan comments on some recent zine reviews in the letterzine: 
* fan tells other fans to have some understanding about the poor reproduction quality in Crossfire: 
* while there is almost no discussion of m/m in this issue, a fan says: 
* a fan complains about another’s use of the word “feminist”: 
* about zine reviews: 
* a fan wants to ask fiction writers how they feel: 
* the editor of Blond Blintz Bulletin and Dirtball Dispatch says: 
* about the gay thing: 
* more about reviews: 
* about S&H and Trek fandom: 
* a fan says: 
 Image:sandh7betty.jpg| from issue #7 by Betty de Gabriele 
 Image:sandh7diplandon.jpg| from issue #7 by Signe Landon 
 Image:Sandhdeann.jpg| from issue #7 by DeAnn Lloyd 
 Image:sandh7newsome.jpg| from issue #7 by Cheryl Newsome 
 Image:sandh7brown.jpg| from issue #7 by Beth Browne 
 Image:sandh7hutchlandon.jpg| from issue #7 by Signe Landon 
==S and H 8 (March 1980)==
* contains 44 pages
* there are 80 subscribers
* art by Connie Faddis (cover), Trish, Jane Davis, Liz Wright, Betty de Gabriele, Kendra Hunter, Cheryl Newsome, Linda Walter, Beth Browne, Signe Landon, Liz Tucker, Ruth Kurz
* discussion on why does “The Golden Boy” (Hutch) play those “prove you love me games” with “The Street Kid” (Starsky)?
* a fan applies some Jungian philosophy to I Spy, Starsky and Hutch, and homoeroticism. Another fan applies “TA” (Transactional Analysis) to the characters. 
* a fan encourages others to get a hold of Naomi’s pass around Christmas-themed story This may be "A Very Special Christmas," a story by an English writer mentioned in Tell Me Something I Don't Know! #15. 
* many more horror stories of episodes cut and messed up in syndication
* zine review for L.A. Vespers, “the second zine published west of the Rockies” (the stories are shorter, there are almost no get'ems, much poetry, doesn’t have much artwork.). The same review was published in Datazine #7 and Universal Translator #3. See the L.A. Vespers page for the review.
* an artist begs for some photos of Papa Theodore from the episode "Murder on Playboy Island"
* forthcoming zines are Casa Cabrillo due August 1980, Forever Autumn, Me and Thee #2, The Pits #2, Sins of the Father, One Shot, The Striped Tomato, Then We Can Be Heroes, Bird of Paradise 
* a fan writes about reviews: 
* a fan likes the Trek/SH cross-pollination: 
* a fan wonders: 
* the universally reviled new television show, “B.A.D. Cats” comes up again: 
* wants to know more about the Hutch as portrayed in the third season: 
* more about reviews: 
* the editor of L.A. Vespers says: 
* another fan votes for continuing zine reviews in the letterzine: 
* a fan suggest this alternative regarding zine reviews: 
* a fan, and zine editor, says about reviews and criticism: 
* more on reviews: 
* a zine editor says: 
* an offer from one fan for others about David Soul on the Christmas TV special: 
* a writer comments about reviews and the amount of pass around fiction, asking folks to “toughen up”: 
* fandom as a life-changer? 
* more on the supposed-thick skin of writers: 
* about the gift economy and profit: 
* Defending the harsh review, and reviewer, of Hopscotch in issue #6: 
* a fan comments about the private fiction she has: 
* a fan catalogs Hutch’s shirts: 
* fans are bemoaning the absence of S&H in syndication in Franklin, MA; a fan says the local station: 
* a fan brings up Star Wars: 
* an editor says that: 
* more on reviews: 
* about all the Drawer Fic out there: 
* the writer of the first m/m Starsky & Hutch zine, Forever Autumn, not yet released says: 
* more on reviews: 
* a fan comments that reviews don’t really affect what she buys: 
* a prospective writer says: 
* the writer of the much-discussed negative review of Hopscotch in issue #6 responds: 
* a editor winds it up by saying: 
* S/H stinks: 
* keep the stories coming: 
 Image:sandh8betty.jpg|from issue #8 by Betty de Gabriele 
 Image:sandh8liztucker.jpg| from issue #8 by Liz Tucker 
 Image:sandh8vanessabysignelandon.jpg|from issue #8, portrait of Vanessa by Signe Landon 
 Image:sandh8lizwright.jpg|from issue #8 by Liz Wright 
 Image:sanh8signelandon2.jpg|from issue #8 by Signe Landon 
 Image:sandh8trish.jpg|from issue #8 by Trish 
==S and H 9 (April 1980)==
* contains 48 pages
*art by Beth Browne, Jane Davis, Connie Faddis, Pat Harris, Kendra Hunter, Ruth Kurz, Joy Mancinelli, Cheryl Newsome, Liz Tucker, Linda Walter
* the editor says there are 100 subscriptions
* a fan pleads for the letterzine not to be turned in to "another Interstat.” The name calling and back-biting in Trek fandom is one of the reasons I’m not actively involved any longer… some of the reviews [in this letterzine] are more ‘attacking’ the author than criticizing the story."
* a self-proclaimed closet writer is working on a novel in which Huggy Bear is featured that she hopes will be ready for ZebraCon. She begs for photos of the actor.
* a British fan mentions Dobey Con: "As far as we know, the nearest thing to an officially organized S&H con to be held in Britain." 
* a fan says she doesn’t have a big opinion about whether "they do or they don’t," but says, "publish all the S/H that you want… There will be at least one reader who will buy all that you can put out, as long as I have the money."
* there is a lengthy, thoughtful letter by a long-time SF writer and editor, Juanita Coulson, (fan and pro) on differing writing and editing styles, how "insisting that everybody should be tough and like tooth-and-nail debate is not the solution."
* Paula Smith ("I am an editor, critic, reviewer, a member of species Vitis acidus. I pull wings off flies, and eat shredded neos for breakfast. If I ever had a good word to say about anybody, the impulse passed back in 1967.") invokes Langsam's Law and explains it (“aka ‘Don’t Make Him Say That') and goes on to list a bunch of “rules” she uses when reviewing a story: Is the writer a neo, does the writer know basic English, is the plot stupid (“and is it supposed to be”), does the POV stay consistent, do the word choices match the style of the source text [not her word], is the plot as original as it can be considering the circumstances…
* a lengthy essay by the editors called “In Defense of the Fourth Season”
* question for next issue: Where are all the David Soul and/or Hutch fans?
* a review of L.A. Vespers, see that page
* a review of The Pits #2, see that page
* a review of The Pits #2, see that page
* a review of The Pits #2, see that page
* the characters, Terry and Kira: 
* regarding reviews: 
* stop the fighting, please: 
* truce: 
* David Soul's comments: 
* the recipient of the previous issues’ harsh review writes: 
* a reader rebukes another’s review: 
* a zine editor writes: 
* a fan wants the zine reviews stopped: 
* a fan dislikes the episode ‘Sweet Revenge’ for a number of reasons, one of which is: 
* a fan wonders: 
* a fan is excited hearing all the songs that remind other fans of the show and imagines a fanmix: 
* fan wants to know why there are so few "woman relationship stories: 
* one of the authors of Forever Autumn writes that she is: 
*after reading issue #8, a fan is uneasy: 
* a fan says: 
* more on the recent conflict: 
* a fan comments on the show’s women: 
* another reader takes the harsh review of Hopscotch by [name redacted] to task for being nit-picky about the wrong things, about it being unnecessarily personal and cruel and much more: 
* a (gen only!) reader talks about the changes in the actors' attitudes: 
* why so much talk about sex? 
* the more fiction, the better: 
* please, no fighting: 
* help, don't tear down writers: 
 Image:sandh9newsome.jpg| from issue #9 by Cheryl Newsome 
 Image:sandh9ruthkurz.jpg| from issue #9 by Ruth Kurz 
 Image:sandh9liztucker.jpg| from issue #9 by Liz Tucker 
 Image:sandh9bethbrowne.jpg| from issue #9 by Beth Browne 
 Image:sandh9trish.jpg| from issue #9 by Trish 
==S and H 10 (May 1980)==
* contains 56 pages
* art by Beth Browne, Jane Davis, Jeff Dixon, Connie Faddis (both covers), Greg Franklin, Betty de Gabriele, Pat Harris, Ruth Kurz, Cheryl Newsome, Liz Tucker, Linda Walter, Kendra
* there were 120 issues printed 
* many, many fans panned the show, “B.A.D. Cats,” but there is much mention by many about liking “Tenspeed and Brown Shoe.” Fans compare it often to S&H. S&H is off the air, they need a new fandom 
* a con report of ClosetCon
* a fan wants a copy of the SH story in Currents #1, will pay for a xerox copy of it
* NOTE: there is no ad for Bird of Paradise or Then We Can Be Heroes in forthcoming zines
* the editor complains that the letters are too long and begs for folks to type them and correct their own spelling. She says the editors are committed to doing the letterzine until the end of the year, and that maybe “Mel” will take over then, she thanks one fan for a donation of envelopes
* There is a second reference to S*H*I*T, a “Starsky and Hutch Infected Trekker"
* folks discuss the differences between “groupie” and “fan”
* a fan asks for some tapes of S&H eps to show in “the S&H suite at World Con”
* a non-m/m fan defends her previous use of “homoerotic” and compares it to “platonic love”
* a fan writes a long, extremely-thinky letter about quality in fan fiction and how what fans write should have more than an emotional buzz, and strive every day to be as good as “Finnegan’s Wake.” She uses a lot of really, big words.
* reader suggests the letterzine have a “spin-off writing shop talk zine, "otherwise “we’re going to be comparing brands of typewriter ribbon and hints on how to re-constitute a write-out on a day when the supply stores are closed for inventory."
* much discussion on the “Hutchinson Guilt Complex” and whether Starsky suffers the same. One conclusion: "Hutch’s hangup is assuming guilt for things he had no part in. Starsky feels guilty for things he was involved in and might, if things had worked out better, prevented."
* a fan says she liked Hopscotch but felt that some of the language was “too strong,” she also is looking forward to reading Forever Autumn
* a fan says a British term for S and H slash is “S stroke H”
* a fan says she just prefers to think of the fourth season as not existing, many say they love it, many have mixed feelings about it, and another one makes a compelling reason for a complete re-order of the episode’s airings, starting with “Starsky vs. Hutch.” All fans seem to agree it differs radically from the previous three seasons. 
* a British fan says three episodes were never shown in their original run in England: “The Fix,” “Murder Ward,” and “Savage Sunday.”
* an artist corrects the art credits (three mistakes) from issue #9
* a fan says she is adamantly against S/H because of "artistic integrity… I’ll save [explaining] that one for when we are better acquainted."
* a fan asserts that mustaches are grown to assert masculinity, and Hutch grew it when he felt that this masculinity was being threatened. He will, she said, shave it off when he "comes to terms with his emotional commitment to his partner and not a moment before."
* Dobeycon, the first British S&H con is coming up and for auction is a David Soul-signed ping-pong ball. 
* a fan estimates that 80% of the people who write in S and H are Star Trek writers and fans, that: 
* a fan thought that [name redacted]’s review of Hopscotch was: 
* a fan writes: 
* a fan has a letter where she says she doesn’t think they were “doing it” by the time “Death in a Different Place” aired, but that: 
* a fan goes on to comment on why there are so many excellent writers in S&H. She feels it has to do with Star Trek and the migration of writers. Then she asks: 
* a well-known and accomplished artist, [name redacted], writes: 
* a fan says: 
* a writer and fan comments about copying zines: 
* a writer says: 
* a well-known gen writer says she mostly likes Forever Autumn. While she thought the resolution was a little too easy, that there was a little too much “tell, not show,” that that it felt a little underwritten, she also felt: 
* a review of Forever Autumn by a fan who notes there are only two kisses, no other sex. 
 Image:Sandh10insidegregfranklin5.jpg|from issue #10, Greg Franklin 
 Image:Sandh10insidejeffdixon7.jpg|from issue #10, Jeff Dixon 
 Image:Sandh10insidegregfranklin4.jpg|from issue #10, Greg Franklin 
 Image:sandh10insidekurz1.jpg|thumb|from issue #10, Ruth Kurz 
 Image:sandh10insidenewsome3.jpg|thumb|from issue #10, Cheryl Newsome 
==References==
Category:1980 Zines
Category:Starsky & Hutch Zines