Beta server office hours/Minutes/2017-05-18

[2017/05/11 15:00] Duckie Dickins: yeah
[2017/05/11 15:00] Duckie Dickins: this jira was all encompassing. Others were specific to llSetTextureAnim, or llTargetOmega, etc
[2017/05/11 15:00] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i concur
[2017/05/11 15:01] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): svc types have been long left behind, and it's possible that they didnt get converted to more current jira type
[2017/05/11 15:01] NOPE (margithe): so there's a point in digging in old jiras?
[2017/05/11 15:02] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): yes
[2017/05/11 15:02] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): if they're still issues
[2017/05/11 15:02] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): many bugs still have yet to be fixed
[2017/05/11 15:02] NOPE (margithe): that i could do
[2017/05/11 15:02] NOPE (margithe): lots of things have actually gotten into bigger bugs than originally, too
[2017/05/11 15:03] NOPE (margithe): and some caps are too restrictive, too
[2017/05/11 15:03] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): which caps?
[2017/05/11 15:03] NOPE (margithe): 100 avatars
[2017/05/11 15:03] Rex Cronon: hello folks
[2017/05/11 15:03] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): idt that is too restrictive, heh
[2017/05/11 15:03] NOPE (margithe): 100 avatars/object list
[2017/05/11 15:03] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): considering rendered attachments
[2017/05/11 15:03] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): being mostly rigged mesh these days
[2017/05/11 15:04] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): not to mention attached scripts
[2017/05/11 15:04] NOPE (margithe): ah no, i mean, 100 avatars owning stuff on a sim
[2017/05/11 15:04] NOPE (margithe): and lists of who owns what
[2017/05/11 15:04] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): there isn't a 100 owner cap though
[2017/05/11 15:04] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): just a limit on the script lists for parcel owners list
[2017/05/11 15:04] NOPE (margithe): right.
[2017/05/11 15:05] Zenith Subchair final p: whispers: Hi Caleb Linden! Touch me for Menu. Say /1a to Adjust.
[2017/05/11 15:05] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I've never actually hit that limit either, closest I got was 75 I think, heh
[2017/05/11 15:05] NOPE (margithe): meaning on a 30 k sim, there will be significantly more people than 100 , owning stuff.
[2017/05/11 15:05] NOPE (margithe): lots of sims hit that limit now, having more than 100 rentals on one parcel
[2017/05/11 15:05] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): with a renter parcel I could understand though
[2017/05/11 15:06] Rex Cronon: so, what happens if there r more than 100 objects owners on a sim?
[2017/05/11 15:06] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): nothing
[2017/05/11 15:06] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): it's just taht the parcel prim owners function returns a capped list
[2017/05/11 15:06] NOPE (margithe): roleplay sims basically run off renters AND they can't afford to parcel off
[2017/05/11 15:06] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): wait
[2017/05/11 15:06] NOPE (margithe): it's not always possible to parcel, either
[2017/05/11 15:07] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): you're saying there is an actual server limit to rezzing if there are already 100 owner object rezzed on a parcel?
[2017/05/11 15:07] NOPE (margithe): no no
[2017/05/11 15:07] NOPE (margithe): but no rental systems work properly with more than 100 renters
[2017/05/11 15:07] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): so this is just about http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LlGetParcelPrimOwners beign capped?
[2017/05/11 15:08] Rex Cronon: in theory there should be like 15k objects on a sim. each belonging to a different owner
[2017/05/11 15:08] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): A simple pracel subdivision and separate monitor would solve that
[2017/05/11 15:08] NOPE (margithe): no
[2017/05/11 15:08] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I wouldn't run off renters just because of a capped list.
[2017/05/11 15:08] NOPE (margithe): can't cut land up, you lose out ranking in search
[2017/05/11 15:08] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I see
[2017/05/11 15:09] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I've dealt with that by mainly making a separate parcel the hang out parcel and the renter parcel limited such as no scripts
[2017/05/11 15:09] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): *no public scripts
[2017/05/11 15:09] NOPE (margithe): also, you want the count for the entire sim, not for a specific parcel- since if you have a vehicle rental, you can go anywhere on the sim with it.
[2017/05/11 15:09] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): many people don't physically walk to each store unless there are ammenites to try out/sit on
[2017/05/11 15:10] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): then we need a new function
[2017/05/11 15:10] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-40888
[2017/05/11 15:10] NOPE (margithe): it's been asked for before, but left behind. Now with 30 k Li, it's getting seriously needed
[2017/05/11 15:11] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): and thanks to the increase, resource abuse is worse, imo
[2017/05/11 15:11] arton Rotaru: lol
[2017/05/11 15:11] NOPE (margithe): mazidox is late
[2017/05/11 15:11] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): we've needed parcel resource control for some time
[2017/05/11 15:11] arton Rotaru: mazi is on the beach
[2017/05/11 15:11] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): mazidox is so late that he is having a vacation today
[2017/05/11 15:11] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): lol
[2017/05/11 15:11] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): and you guys didn't notice i was here
[2017/05/11 15:11] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): lol
[2017/05/11 15:11] NOPE (margithe): Caleb, stop being depressed about Vir getting to do all the fun news.
[2017/05/11 15:11] arton Rotaru: I just wondered you were here Caleb
[2017/05/11 15:12] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): you thought i was some lobby tv, playing cable news?
[2017/05/11 15:12] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): the tv head did it, I thought you were a prop
[2017/05/11 15:12] NOPE (margithe): it's a hard act to follow up
[2017/05/11 15:12] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): at least soem good news happened today
[2017/05/11 15:12] Rex Cronon: caleb. u need to say something, else people thing u r busy moving your car;)
[2017/05/11 15:12] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): hehe
[2017/05/11 15:12] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): LL finally announced they were startign work on animated mesh
[2017/05/11 15:13] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): that'll be later
[2017/05/11 15:13] NOPE (margithe): i was there Lucy- this is an alt
[2017/05/11 15:13] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): that is vir news, right?
[2017/05/11 15:13] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): yes, Vir news
[2017/05/11 15:13] NOPE (margithe): wonder how long this has been decided already
[2017/05/11 15:13] Duckie Dickins: I filed it. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-100672
[2017/05/11 15:14] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): sadly, it does sound like they're going to be cutting corners and/or going the easy route, but I do hope they set up things to be modular/changed later
[2017/05/11 15:15] NOPE (margithe): nothing ever gets changed later
[2017/05/11 15:15] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i don't really have exciting things to tell you, but we had to roll back LeTigre today because it was impeding the Krafties HUD, it's still under investigation in the meantime
[2017/05/11 15:15] NOPE (margithe): look how long it took to get fitted mesh
[2017/05/11 15:15] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): Whirly filed it
[2017/05/11 15:15] NOPE (margithe): lol breedables emergency
[2017/05/11 15:16] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): yes, I did some tests on that yesterday
[2017/05/11 15:16] arton Rotaru: what changed on LeTigre
[2017/05/11 15:16] Rex Cronon: breedables need biagra shot?
[2017/05/11 15:16] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I don't have a website to send http req to an in-world object to see if ww is stripped out or not
[2017/05/11 15:16] Rex Cronon: viagra*
[2017/05/11 15:16] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): *www
[2017/05/11 15:17] Rex Cronon: u don't need a website lucy
[2017/05/11 15:17] NOPE (margithe): wouldn't it be more stuff affected tho?
[2017/05/11 15:17] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): talking http req's rex, not http responses
[2017/05/11 15:17] NOPE (margithe): i imagine that DCS would break down in tears
[2017/05/11 15:18] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): and next week we are planning on putting jigglypuff out to the RCs
[2017/05/11 15:18] Rex Cronon: u can do both respunse and request from your computer
[2017/05/11 15:18] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): not talking loading urls either
[2017/05/11 15:18] NOPE (margithe): Is there going to be a viewer update for Project Meh?
[2017/05/11 15:19] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): there has to be, let me confirm the timing of it
[2017/05/11 15:19] Rex Cronon: lol lucy. what r u talking about?
[2017/05/11 15:19] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I'm talking about a www domain that makes a http req to a sl object url
[2017/05/11 15:20] arton Rotaru: that broke on LeTigre?
[2017/05/11 15:20] arton Rotaru: due to some logging changes?
[2017/05/11 15:20] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): www is getting stripped out of the website
[2017/05/11 15:20] NOPE (margithe): odd.
[2017/05/11 15:20] Duckie Dickins: Caspervend had limited outage on le tigre sims last night it seems.
[2017/05/11 15:20] Duckie Dickins: not all..just some
[2017/05/11 15:21] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): it is an upgrade to the simhost in general
[2017/05/11 15:21] Duckie Dickins: someone also said entire sims got returned again...but that's just hearsay
[2017/05/11 15:21] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): the only thing I saw was screwy region hand offs
[2017/05/11 15:21] arton Rotaru: ah it's the OS thingy
[2017/05/11 15:21] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I crashed several times from them
[2017/05/11 15:21] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): with letigres?
[2017/05/11 15:21] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): yes
[2017/05/11 15:21] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): going in or out of LT's
[2017/05/11 15:22] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): thanks, will check the logs on that
[2017/05/11 15:22] NOPE (margithe): how does it show?
[2017/05/11 15:22] NOPE (margithe): i've been hairless upon most teleports... again.'
[2017/05/11 15:22] arton Rotaru: lol
[2017/05/11 15:22] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): in my case I would never make it into the region I was walking into, it was what I call "the long walk"
[2017/05/11 15:23] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): were you time out and crash
[2017/05/11 15:23] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): the long walk into sunset?
[2017/05/11 15:23] NOPE (margithe): ouff
[2017/05/11 15:23] NOPE (margithe): what are we on, Duckie?
[2017/05/11 15:23] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): !env
[2017/05/11 15:23] Rex Cronon: nope caleb. into neverland
[2017/05/11 15:23] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Sim Channel: DRTSIM-323
[2017/05/11 15:23] Duckie Dickins: oh. I've had that happen with scripted objects. I would set the alpha masking on my mesh avatar for my outfit and then arrive somewhere else with all of my bits clipping through again as if I didn't make any changes to my mesh avatar's alphas
[2017/05/11 15:24] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): this region right here is actually that simhost upgrade host
[2017/05/11 15:24] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): morris
[2017/05/11 15:24] Duckie Dickins: I always had a feeling Morris was the center of the grid...
[2017/05/11 15:24] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Thats Da Boom or wth it's called, right?
[2017/05/11 15:25] NOPE (margithe): I've been extra laggy since yesterdays rolls, but it's been all types of lag, so i dunno
[2017/05/11 15:25] NOPE (margithe): err not yesterdays... tuesdays
[2017/05/11 15:25] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i believe letigres have already been put on a different version
[2017/05/11 15:25] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): it's been put on teh same as MG and BS
[2017/05/11 15:25] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): oh laggyness on second life server regions?
[2017/05/11 15:26] NOPE (margithe): all from a cached region taking 10 minutes to rez, to showing up with no hair, to avatars just not loading at all- not even a cloud
[2017/05/11 15:27] NOPE (margithe): and now i have enormous chatlag even here, so it could be me.
[2017/05/11 15:27] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I couldn't save scripts this morning in WT on agni
[2017/05/11 15:27] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): where lucy?
[2017/05/11 15:27] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): WT
[2017/05/11 15:27] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): you should know that region, heh
[2017/05/11 15:28] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): it's teh one I report crashing from griffs
[2017/05/11 15:28] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): ahaha
[2017/05/11 15:28] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): got it
[2017/05/11 15:28] Rex Cronon: saving scripts at swt? since when hasn't that been a problem? lols
[2017/05/11 15:28] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): since this morning
[2017/05/11 15:28] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): griefers demand stability
[2017/05/11 15:28] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I've never had problems saving scripts there until this morning
[2017/05/11 15:28] Rex Cronon: since ever. it never works reliably
[2017/05/11 15:28] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): not for you
[2017/05/11 15:29] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Mr. crappy ISP and comp
[2017/05/11 15:29] Rex Cronon: not 4 everybody
[2017/05/11 15:29] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): nope, only you
[2017/05/11 15:29] arton Rotaru: lol
[2017/05/11 15:29] Rex Cronon: lol r u high?
[2017/05/11 15:29] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): you were also the only person crashing at the Tues UG too, Rex, smh
[2017/05/11 15:29] NOPE (margithe): children, not in front of the Principal >.<
[2017/05/11 15:30] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Rex is good for it
[2017/05/11 15:30] Rex Cronon: u forget that other people were starting to have problems during that time too lucy
[2017/05/11 15:30] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): arguing makes him feel alive, lol
[2017/05/11 15:30] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): and not a roboto
[2017/05/11 15:30] Rex Cronon: i am a robot that live 4 arguing? lolz
[2017/05/11 15:30] NOPE (margithe): So, everyone got so taken aback by Vir news, that they didn't show up
[2017/05/11 15:30] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): yes
[2017/05/11 15:30] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): domo arigatou
[2017/05/11 15:31] Rex Cronon: i don't speak japanese
[2017/05/11 15:31] Duckie Dickins: it's because they all needed to go blog about it. :P
[2017/05/11 15:31] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I was making a joke, rex, way to ruin it
[2017/05/11 15:31] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): glad that you still support our show
[2017/05/11 15:31] arton Rotaru: I guess it's more of because Mazidox said they would be on the beach on thursday
[2017/05/11 15:31] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I forgot that actually
[2017/05/11 15:31] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): heh
[2017/05/11 15:31] Rex Cronon: ?
[2017/05/11 15:31] NOPE (margithe): Caleb, how was it with that viewer update?
[2017/05/11 15:31] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): at the time I thought he meant no meeting at all
[2017/05/11 15:31] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): right
[2017/05/11 15:32] Rex Cronon: what joke?
[2017/05/11 15:32] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): so under final test and can go out as early as tomorrow
[2017/05/11 15:32] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Rex, listen to Mr. Robot by Styx
[2017/05/11 15:32] arton Rotaru: yeah no meeting was my impression as well
[2017/05/11 15:32] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): *Mr. Roboto
[2017/05/11 15:32] NOPE (margithe): ok
[2017/05/11 15:32] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): their video clip creeped me out
[2017/05/11 15:32] Rex Cronon: is hard to see when people make jokes in sl. u can't see their faces:(
[2017/05/11 15:33] NOPE (margithe): i was supposed to be here on monday, but i got th time wrong
[2017/05/11 15:33] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): get a better viewer
[2017/05/11 15:33] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): and ISP
[2017/05/11 15:33] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): and comp
[2017/05/11 15:33] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): nice, switching ISP?
[2017/05/11 15:33] Rex Cronon: i didn't realize lucy that u had a camera pointed at your face that sends it to a a prim in sl:)
[2017/05/11 15:33] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I think if I mentioned Mazi could test with his alts using llMoveToTarget() sooner, he would have said we didn't need to show up
[2017/05/11 15:34] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): thank you so much for that, he was happy
[2017/05/11 15:34] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): because thats the direction he went after we tested
[2017/05/11 15:34] NOPE (margithe): i wonder whats up between me, and LL's servers. Since the transition to CDN's for textures and mesh, everything rezzes fantastically, but the rest is just getting laggier and laggier. Building is a pain.
[2017/05/11 15:35] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): just simple building operations?
[2017/05/11 15:35] NOPE (margithe): yeah
[2017/05/11 15:35] Rex Cronon: i guess the cdn server is closer to u than is the sim server nope?
[2017/05/11 15:35] NOPE (margithe): putting on textures, changing transparency, glow etc
[2017/05/11 15:35] Duckie Dickins: I once took part in an experiment to transmit a 300 baud carrier over two cups and a piece of string...I imagine that's probably what Rex's isp uses.
[2017/05/11 15:35] NOPE (margithe): i have to change a texture 3-5 times before it sticks
[2017/05/11 15:36] Rex Cronon: no ducie. i use homming pigeons:)
[2017/05/11 15:36] Rex Cronon: duckie*
[2017/05/11 15:36] NOPE (margithe): i don't even know where to start troubleshooting that. *sighs*
[2017/05/11 15:37] NOPE (margithe): All else is fine.
[2017/05/11 15:37] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): are you working from a laptop?
[2017/05/11 15:38] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): so that you can try different networks
[2017/05/11 15:38] Duckie Dickins: She's on the other side of the planet
[2017/05/11 15:38] NOPE (margithe): and of course, the CDN is closer, but i don't think sim servers are going further and further away? Also the ping is pretty consistent around 200, but it's been that way for several years
[2017/05/11 15:39] Duckie Dickins: Margithe SL's from Antarctica....well almost. :P
[2017/05/11 15:40] NOPE (margithe): hmm, laptop is old and shit, but it's worth a try
[2017/05/11 15:40] arton Rotaru: that Styx mr roboto would make a perfect avatar in Sl
[2017/05/11 15:40] Rex Cronon: and most of my connections problems r due to the jerk(s) that live around me and try to hack my wifi connection:(
[2017/05/11 15:41] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): pw protect it
[2017/05/11 15:41] Rex Cronon: pw=password?
[2017/05/11 15:41] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): turn off the NSA crap in W10 if you're using it
[2017/05/11 15:41] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): yes rex, smh
[2017/05/11 15:41] arton Rotaru: I had poor connection once with a onboard network adapter
[2017/05/11 15:41] NOPE (margithe): i've given up on wifi, i live in a concrete bunker from the 60's
[2017/05/11 15:41] arton Rotaru: pluged in a intel network pci card and all was better
[2017/05/11 15:42] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): really?
[2017/05/11 15:42] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): the bunker part
[2017/05/11 15:42] Rex Cronon: just making sure. there r so many 2 letter words. lol
[2017/05/11 15:42] NOPE (margithe): no <.<
[2017/05/11 15:42] NOPE (margithe): but close!
[2017/05/11 15:42] NOPE (margithe): it's a concrete and brick building. Wifi never gets further than the room the router sits in.
[2017/05/11 15:43] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i see
[2017/05/11 15:43] arton Rotaru: hilft dir funk nicht weiter, nimm ein kabel ist gescheiter
[2017/05/11 15:43] arton Rotaru: ^^
[2017/05/11 15:44] NOPE (margithe): Hm, i have nothing else today
[2017/05/11 15:44] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): followed by: Isst du ein Doener, wirst du nur noch schoener
[2017/05/11 15:44] arton Rotaru: yup
[2017/05/11 15:44] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): thank you Nope
[2017/05/11 15:44] NOPE (margithe): XD
[2017/05/11 15:44] NOPE (margithe): nah thank you for being here
[2017/05/11 15:45] Duckie Dickins: Part of Rex's problem is his neighbors watch Mr Robot and are all trying to aircrack-ng his wifi with kali linux to get at his porn stash.
[2017/05/11 15:45] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I assume there is no shiney news as far as scripts go, right?
[2017/05/11 15:45] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i wish whirly was here, but the inventory thing has become a topic again, and i was wondering if you have seen any funkiness on aditi?
[2017/05/11 15:45] Rex Cronon: i hope that somebody will soon make wifi network cards that use "spooky action":)
[2017/05/11 15:46] NOPE (margithe): we could talk about more land controls if you are bored, Caleb :D
[2017/05/11 15:46] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): my aditi inv finally updated
[2017/05/11 15:46] Rex Cronon: lol duckie
[2017/05/11 15:46] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): nice!
[2017/05/11 15:46] NOPE (margithe): actually, good that you remind me, something DID happen in my inventory when i was deleting a folder
[2017/05/11 15:46] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): updated correctly?
[2017/05/11 15:46] Rex Cronon: btw. i heard of mr robot the show. never seen even one episode of it
[2017/05/11 15:46] arton Rotaru: I have no idea what is in my inventory on agni either
[2017/05/11 15:46] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i mean aditi
[2017/05/11 15:46] arton Rotaru: it's 10 years unorganized mess
[2017/05/11 15:47] arton Rotaru: yeah
[2017/05/11 15:47] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): idk when it happened, but all my agni marketplace listings were put in my lost and found folder
[2017/05/11 15:47] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): in my aditi lost and found folder
[2017/05/11 15:47] arton Rotaru: so I have even less an idea what should be on aditi^^
[2017/05/11 15:48] Duckie Dickins: oh...all of my marketplace items are in my lost and found folder too here on aditi
[2017/05/11 15:48] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): *record scratch*
[2017/05/11 15:48] NOPE (margithe): lol
[2017/05/11 15:48] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): and it's that account syncing thing that might have caused it?
[2017/05/11 15:48] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): idk
[2017/05/11 15:48] Duckie Dickins: on the other hand I'm still in groups on aditi that I left 5 years ago on agni
[2017/05/11 15:49] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): but no aditi input from your side
[2017/05/11 15:49] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): like what kind of input?
[2017/05/11 15:49] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): something like trying to do something to your marketplace listing on aditi
[2017/05/11 15:50] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): nope
[2017/05/11 15:50] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): so for testing i can just let it sit there and watch it change overnight?
[2017/05/11 15:50] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): it = marketplace listing
[2017/05/11 15:51] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I don't have any aditi mp listings
[2017/05/11 15:51] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i see
[2017/05/11 15:51] Duckie Dickins: wait..there's an aditi marketplace?!?
[2017/05/11 15:51] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i can also see it as an intention
[2017/05/11 15:51] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): because aditi has nothing to do with marketplace
[2017/05/11 15:52] NOPE (margithe): it seems intentional. So nothing gets auto-listed
[2017/05/11 15:52] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): aditi doesnt have marketplace (but maybe it could be nice to have)
[2017/05/11 15:52] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): right?
[2017/05/11 15:52] NOPE (margithe): it had a marketplace for a while at least
[2017/05/11 15:52] Duckie Dickins: it would end up being the dark web of the SL grid
[2017/05/11 15:52] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): aditi has it's own mp
[2017/05/11 15:53] NOPE (margithe): there was some testing. I know Casper got issues with it, lol
[2017/05/11 15:53] arton Rotaru: cool, I just found my first rezzed prim in my lost and found
[2017/05/11 15:53] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): throw back thursday right there
[2017/05/11 15:53] Rex Cronon: so u can buy a 10k mesh here, copy bot it and than sell it on main...
[2017/05/11 15:53] Duckie Dickins: I have a phil linden prim from long ago
[2017/05/11 15:53] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): rex, most copybotting is xml anyway
[2017/05/11 15:53] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): and
[2017/05/11 15:53] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): aditi mp is not linked with agni mp
[2017/05/11 15:54] NOPE (margithe): No need to buy anything. That just leaves a trail
[2017/05/11 15:54] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): only things on aditi mp are tests
[2017/05/11 15:54] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): so whats coming down the pipe?
[2017/05/11 15:55] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): aditi mp and agni mp are totally separate
[2017/05/11 15:55] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): lucy, just jigglypuff
[2017/05/11 15:55] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): project meh
[2017/05/11 15:55] NOPE (margithe): nothing more planned?
[2017/05/11 15:55] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): whispers: the estate parcel access updater?
[2017/05/11 15:55] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): or project mehjastic?
[2017/05/11 15:55] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): the estate parcel access updater?
[2017/05/11 15:56] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): yeah, we are trying to really get this simhost upgrade out first as the baseline for upcoming projects
[2017/05/11 15:56] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): after jiggly i mean
[2017/05/11 15:57] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): it'll make the dev's lives easier
[2017/05/11 15:57] NOPE (margithe): That sounds reasonable. No point in testing new things on old sim host, and then have to re-test them again
[2017/05/11 15:57] Duckie Dickins: what OS did you end up going with? Ubuntu?
[2017/05/11 15:57] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i don't know, but it's something that has updated packages etcs
[2017/05/11 15:58] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): whispers: but anyways, you know what time it is?
[2017/05/11 15:58] Duckie Dickins: howdie doodie time?
[2017/05/11 15:58] NOPE (margithe): time to move the car?
[2017/05/11 15:58] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): truck move time!
[2017/05/11 15:58] arton Rotaru: parking time
[2017/05/11 15:59] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): you got one more minute
[2017/05/11 15:59] NOPE (margithe): hahaha
[2017/05/11 15:59] NOPE (margithe): Good luck! Thanks for for your time
[2017/05/11 15:59] Duckie Dickins: "My last trip to starbucks before heading home time"
[2017/05/11 15:59] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): *clenching teeth*
[2017/05/11 15:59] Rex Cronon: lol calbe. u got a truck to move now:)
[2017/05/11 15:59] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): phew
[2017/05/11 15:59] Rex Cronon: caleb*
[2017/05/11 15:59] NOPE (margithe): See you next week!
[2017/05/11 15:59] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): see you next week, and thank you so much for thinking of us in the shadow of vir news
[2017/05/11 16:00] NOPE (margithe): aww
[2017/05/11 16:00] Rex Cronon: tc caleb
[2017/05/11 16:00] arton Rotaru: lol
[2017/05/11 16:00] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): animated mesh is the ultimate shiny to me
[2017/05/11 16:00] arton Rotaru: laters
[2017/05/11 16:00] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): years overdue
[2017/05/11 16:00] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): have fun with it!
[2017/05/11 16:00] Rex Cronon: what vir news?
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[2017/05/18 15:03] Krafties - Creature Attachment v4.105: Kraftie is ready. Use Elevation from the main menu if your creature's position is off.
[2017/05/18 15:03] AO VISTAAOHUD V1 MAN VALUE EDITION v1: 808 bytes free
[2017/05/18 15:03] emDash HUD: Rex Cronon has entered chat range.
[2017/05/18 15:03] emDash HUD: Theresa Tennyson has entered chat range.
[2017/05/18 15:03] emDash HUD: Minuet Voir has entered chat range.
[2017/05/18 15:03] emDash HUD: Whirly Fizzle has entered chat range.
[2017/05/18 15:03] emDash HUD: Beq Janus has entered chat range.
[2017/05/18 15:03] emDash HUD: arton Rotaru has entered chat range.
[2017/05/18 15:03] emDash HUD: Mazidox Linden has entered chat range.
[2017/05/18 15:03] emDash HUD: Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire) has entered chat range.
[2017/05/18 15:03] emDash HUD: Jenna Felton has entered chat range.
[2017/05/18 15:03] emDash HUD: Duckie Dickins has entered chat range.
[2017/05/18 15:03] Minuet Voir: and why aren't my anims changing
[2017/05/18 15:03] Minuet Voir: oh wait, here we go
[2017/05/18 15:03] arton Rotaru: thats your phone number?
[2017/05/18 15:04] Minuet Voir: wah wah wah
[2017/05/18 15:04] rcdsQueChatLog: State changed.{click me to get the url}
[2017/05/18 15:04] Mazidox Linden: Hi Caleb! The cape is new.
[2017/05/18 15:04] Zenith Subchair final p: whispers: Hi Caleb Linden! Touch me for Menu. Say /1a to Adjust.
[2017/05/18 15:04] Beq Janus: umm my head is dead too. hmmm
[2017/05/18 15:04] Jenna Felton: hi Caleb :)
[2017/05/18 15:04] Mazidox Linden: The summary of my week is to my right, in picture form.
[2017/05/18 15:04] Caleb Linden: hola
[2017/05/18 15:04] arton Rotaru: dead heads
[2017/05/18 15:04] Minuet Voir: dead heads
[2017/05/18 15:04] Whirly Fizzle: Oh because the stupid sync messed up outfit links again so I'm wearing 2 heads ....
[2017/05/18 15:04] arton Rotaru: 1st
[2017/05/18 15:04] Minuet Voir: ahahaha snap
[2017/05/18 15:04] Jenna Felton: cool
[2017/05/18 15:04] Beq Janus: aha yeo
[2017/05/18 15:05] Caleb Linden: thanks whirly for the character test tips
[2017/05/18 15:05] Rex Cronon: hello folks
[2017/05/18 15:05] Jenna Felton: hello Rex :)
[2017/05/18 15:05] Minuet Voir: my face seems to have come alive, but it took its sweet time about it
[2017/05/18 15:05] Rex Cronon: hi jenna:)
[2017/05/18 15:06] Mazidox Linden: So, getting started here...
[2017/05/18 15:06] Whirly Fizzle: Np. So this last invy sync has pretty much doubled all links in my outfit folders.... which of course breaks the outfit.
[2017/05/18 15:06] Rex Cronon: why so laggy here:(
[2017/05/18 15:06] Object: Hello, Avatar!
[2017/05/18 15:06] Mazidox Linden: This week we have three different builds on four different RCs
[2017/05/18 15:06] Minuet Voir: the cache clear fixed that for me Whirls
[2017/05/18 15:06] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): a day w/o Rex having problems is a day w/o shineys
[2017/05/18 15:06] Whirly Fizzle: I wish there was a way to opt out of the inventory sync, it's a PITA.
[2017/05/18 15:06] Minuet Voir: /me pays attention
[2017/05/18 15:06] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): see what I did there?
[2017/05/18 15:07] Rex Cronon: i am not the one having the problem. th sim is having a problem
[2017/05/18 15:07] Rex Cronon: lol
[2017/05/18 15:07] arton Rotaru: there you have it Lucy, 256 prim PF char, 128 LI
[2017/05/18 15:07] Jenna Felton: i seem not notice any problems Rex
[2017/05/18 15:08] Whirly Fizzle: If I delete all my inventory here, I'll get a nice clean copy of what I have on Agni right?
[2017/05/18 15:08] Mazidox Linden: DRTSIM-340, containing some internal fixes, DRTSIM-343, which is Jigglypuff/Parcel Access Override, and DRTSIM-323, which is the upgrade of our simulator operating system.
[2017/05/18 15:08] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): weird, my 255 link linkset was 15
[2017/05/18 15:08] Rex Cronon: i just chame from the main grid. no problmes there. here though...
[2017/05/18 15:08] arton Rotaru: glitch
[2017/05/18 15:08] arton Rotaru: it's 128 server weight still
[2017/05/18 15:08] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): wait
[2017/05/18 15:08] Mazidox Linden: Whirly, maybe? You also might end up without an inventory and very sad. Just as a warning.
[2017/05/18 15:08] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): are you on LL's viewer?
[2017/05/18 15:09] Beq Janus: time to testr an alt whirls
[2017/05/18 15:09] Jenna Felton: Rex, look if your windows started autobackup. when mine does i get so much lag and not know why, until i look
[2017/05/18 15:09] arton Rotaru: how is DRTSIM-323 doing this time?
[2017/05/18 15:10] Rex Cronon: no backup process running
[2017/05/18 15:10] Duckie Dickins: I'm required to say "Project meh" in margithe's absense. She has an early morning tomorrow and needed to sleep
[2017/05/18 15:10] Jenna Felton: ok, than i can't explain :)
[2017/05/18 15:10] Caleb Linden: Project Amehsing
[2017/05/18 15:10] Mazidox Linden: As far as I know DRTSIM-323 is doing well.
[2017/05/18 15:10] Rex Cronon: now things stabilized. weird
[2017/05/18 15:11] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Project Alive is all I'm looking forward to, heh
[2017/05/18 15:11] Jenna Felton: perhaps inventory loading
[2017/05/18 15:11] Mazidox Linden: It does however need more than one week of "well" before we consider making such a major set of changes the primary Second Life Server
[2017/05/18 15:11] Jenna Felton: "Amehsing" is a cool looking word
[2017/05/18 15:11] arton Rotaru: wise decision
[2017/05/18 15:11] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): ie, it hasn't gotten enough screams yet
[2017/05/18 15:12] Duckie Dickins: or it's so meh nobody noticed
[2017/05/18 15:12] Mazidox Linden: I mean really, a simulator upgrade should be the most meh thing in the world.
[2017/05/18 15:12] Mazidox Linden: Meh means we did an amazing job, in that case.
[2017/05/18 15:12] arton Rotaru: it is probably
[2017/05/18 15:12] arton Rotaru: but changes to the physics engine do suck even more usually^^
[2017/05/18 15:13] Mazidox Linden: Because nothing caught on fire and no one died.
[2017/05/18 15:13] Caleb Linden: if people are screaming that upgrade wasn't meh enough
[2017/05/18 15:14] Jenna Felton: :)
[2017/05/18 15:14] Mazidox Linden: Anyway, as a result, Jigglypuff will probably be the next release on Second Life Server.
[2017/05/18 15:14] Jenna Felton: if you not know your system administrator, than he is making perfect job :)
[2017/05/18 15:17] Caleb Linden: i think thats about it., right mazidox?
[2017/05/18 15:17] Jenna Felton: so quieet here
[2017/05/18 15:17] Mazidox Linden: Next week we'll also have a new version of DRTSIM-340 on Agni. Still no public facing fixes to report.
[2017/05/18 15:18] Rex Cronon: and btw lucy. u forget that the shineys came usually on the days i had no connection problems...
[2017/05/18 15:18] Rex Cronon: :)
[2017/05/18 15:18] Mazidox Linden: That's all I've really got,
[2017/05/18 15:18] Duckie Dickins: I updated https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-100672 since it was you who requested more info Caleb
[2017/05/18 15:19] Mazidox Linden: If anyone has a suggestion for how to quickly get thousands of items in a single folder, I'd be glad to hear it. It'd help me test some theories on inventory loss.
[2017/05/18 15:19] Rex Cronon: so what were u doing with pile of prims mazidox? trying to crash sim;)
[2017/05/18 15:19] Caleb Linden: thank you
[2017/05/18 15:19] Mazidox Linden: I imported that Duckie and Caleb.
[2017/05/18 15:20] Rex Cronon: u create a script mazidox...
[2017/05/18 15:20] Jenna Felton: oh btw, Mazidox, i saw you probably want script your "hand", you probably need something like pupeteer, and this one is from all i've seen the best http://www.outworldz.com/cgi/freescripts.plx?ID=648 but needs an evening to play around to learn :)
[2017/05/18 15:21] Jenna Felton: 1000 items in one folder, is inpossible by script
[2017/05/18 15:21] Rex Cronon: u see mazidox how useful would new lsl functions be that would allow inventory access:)
[2017/05/18 15:21] arton Rotaru: whats the limit?
[2017/05/18 15:22] Mazidox Linden: Rex, you just saying that sentence has caused me to not sleep tonight. Actually implementing it might kill me stone dead of fright.
[2017/05/18 15:22] Jenna Felton: but you let a script give you 40 items (max a script can give) than open the Recent tab in inventory, you see that folder and then let the script give folder by folder and move the content every time in that first folder
[2017/05/18 15:22] Jenna Felton: or folderwise
[2017/05/18 15:22] arton Rotaru: that's a tiny bunny
[2017/05/18 15:22] Jenna Felton: i think in few mins you will get 1000
[2017/05/18 15:23] Theresa Tennyson: /me whispers, "Probably a Dead Bunny Walking too."
[2017/05/18 15:23] Minuet Voir: those boxes of 10,000 textures and a bajillion megaprims are probably still floating around on the MP
[2017/05/18 15:23] Whirly Fizzle: Clone my inventory if you want thousands of items in several folders :D
[2017/05/18 15:23] Beq Janus: I have a question: how plausible is a change to the internal mesh format?
[2017/05/18 15:24] Beq Janus: I know that server side it is versioned...
[2017/05/18 15:24] Rex Cronon: i think i have a box with like 5000 megaprims. u want something like that mazidox?
[2017/05/18 15:24] Whirly Fizzle: Oh you want my box to 10k textures to open?
[2017/05/18 15:24] Mazidox Linden: That's probably a better question for a different meeting Beq. It's so far out of my realm of knowledge I don't even know what meeting to recommend? Open Source viewer? Server?
[2017/05/18 15:24] Beq Janus: cousld we in theory get a v3? mesh asset or is there no way that would ever get scheduled
[2017/05/18 15:25] Beq Janus: I'll pitch it at Oz and see which way he bats it
[2017/05/18 15:25] Mazidox Linden: I could use a box with 10k textures Whirly. Or the megaprims, that could work too.
[2017/05/18 15:25] Mazidox Linden: Though knowing me I'll rez all the megaprims on my region and make it explode.
[2017/05/18 15:25] Whirly Fizzle: You need to god copy that, it's no trans for me]
[2017/05/18 15:25] Mazidox Linden: This happens with distressing frequency.
[2017/05/18 15:25] 44K Texture Collection: whispers: .inventoryManager v1.0 ready. 
[2017/05/18 15:25] 44K Texture Collection: whispers: hippoINVENTORY listening on channel 9
[2017/05/18 15:25] 10k textures: Menu timed out... 
[2017/05/18 15:26] arton Rotaru: 44 000
[2017/05/18 15:26] arton Rotaru: that's utterly useless box ^^
[2017/05/18 15:26] Minuet Voir: oh 44k, 'cause 10k simply isn't enough
[2017/05/18 15:26] Duckie Dickins: lol
[2017/05/18 15:26] arton Rotaru: takes 2 weeks to find a usefull texture in that :p
[2017/05/18 15:26] Beq Janus: need to go
[2017/05/18 15:26] arton Rotaru: bye Beq
[2017/05/18 15:26] Rex Cronon: tc
[2017/05/18 15:27] Mazidox Linden: Poor lil' bunny.
[2017/05/18 15:28] Minuet Voir: /me no longers trusts bunnehs
[2017/05/18 15:28] arton Rotaru: lol
[2017/05/18 15:28] Rex Cronon: ok. i 7k mgaprims box
[2017/05/18 15:28] Duckie Dickins: yeah...another thing killed from the grid due to DMCA
[2017/05/18 15:28] Minuet Voir: nothing pesonal, Arton
[2017/05/18 15:28] Whirly Fizzle: Huh how come its not dead yet?
[2017/05/18 15:28] arton Rotaru: the lil one needs a carrot, and it will grow
[2017/05/18 15:28] Mazidox Linden: I thought the gnome therapy was helping Minuet?
[2017/05/18 15:28] Minuet Voir: It has been, Mazidox. I figure another 10 years or so on the couch.
[2017/05/18 15:29] arton Rotaru: sofa king
[2017/05/18 15:29] Jenna Felton: found 7000 Megaprims pack :)
[2017/05/18 15:29] Minuet Voir: A user brought up an issue in FSE today that harkened back to those evil bunnehs days. Brought it all to the surface again.
[2017/05/18 15:29] Jenna Felton: but ists packaged
[2017/05/18 15:30] arton Rotaru: lol
[2017/05/18 15:30] Rex Cronon: i gave one to mazidox, jenna. although i am not sure what is inside it:)
[2017/05/18 15:31] arton Rotaru: all your full blown sim crashers
[2017/05/18 15:31] Mazidox Linden: I'll make sure to open it on a region with scripts and physics disabled...
[2017/05/18 15:31] Rex Cronon: i one make those by mistake arton. lols
[2017/05/18 15:31] Jenna Felton: this one, in it there are packages with more megaprims
[2017/05/18 15:31] Minuet Voir: /me giggles
[2017/05/18 15:31] arton Rotaru: lol
[2017/05/18 15:31] Rex Cronon: i only*
[2017/05/18 15:32] Caleb Linden: i wanted to ask you guys something: has anyone experienced random moves of folders under Trash before?
[2017/05/18 15:32] Minuet Voir: Not yet
[2017/05/18 15:32] Jenna Felton: me, not yet
[2017/05/18 15:32] Rex Cronon: what u mean caleb?
[2017/05/18 15:32] Minuet Voir: (thankfully)
[2017/05/18 15:32] Caleb Linden: just folder in your inventory somehow ending up in trash
[2017/05/18 15:32] Caleb Linden: i didn't see it myself
[2017/05/18 15:33] Theresa Tennyson: It sounds like people with inventory problems like that tend to have a history of other inventory issues.
[2017/05/18 15:33] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): what is "MAINT-7196 Viewer changes supporting Allow Override"
[2017/05/18 15:33] Duckie Dickins: Oh I forgot to ask.....is there a Jira about how the form used for creating a jira doesn't exactly match up to what the end results look like when viewing a jira
[2017/05/18 15:33] Whirly Fizzle: Yes
[2017/05/18 15:33] Rex Cronon: i used to have over 25k inventory items, now i seem to have under 244k:(
[2017/05/18 15:33] Whirly Fizzle: & I keep bitching about it
[2017/05/18 15:33] Minuet Voir: Normally I'd agree, Theresa, but there has been an uptick of reports about it.
[2017/05/18 15:33] Whirly Fizzle: For like 3 years now...
[2017/05/18 15:33] Mazidox Linden: Duckie it's on my list of things to bring up.
[2017/05/18 15:34] Mazidox Linden: I should probably add it to Open Items
[2017/05/18 15:34] Duckie Dickins: Margithe said Mazidox said he would look into it but I didn't know if it had a jira already or one needed to be made
[2017/05/18 15:35] Rex Cronon: u know what the trash can needs? the date/time an item got there
[2017/05/18 15:35] Whirly Fizzle: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-1074
[2017/05/18 15:35] Rex Cronon: i have no idea when something got there
[2017/05/18 15:35] Whirly Fizzle: Wow, 5 years old... hah
[2017/05/18 15:35] Rex Cronon: and from where. like from world, or from inventory
[2017/05/18 15:35] Whirly Fizzle: He's even assigned to it too
[2017/05/18 15:35] Mazidox Linden: Okay that's worse than I thought.
[2017/05/18 15:36] Rex Cronon: i guess it can't get to trash from world?
[2017/05/18 15:36] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): shouts: what is "MAINT-7196 Viewer changes supporting Allow Override"?
[2017/05/18 15:36] Whirly Fizzle: Isn't that Jigglypuff?
[2017/05/18 15:36] Caleb Linden: oh yeah
[2017/05/18 15:36] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): it is a recent change as of today
[2017/05/18 15:37] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): so idt it is jp related
[2017/05/18 15:37] Rex Cronon: it would be also useful to know from what folder did an item get to the trash
[2017/05/18 15:37] Whirly Fizzle: Subfolders of objevts seemingly
[2017/05/18 15:38] Whirly Fizzle: *objects
[2017/05/18 15:38] Jenna Felton: deleting to trash or to L&F instead of llDie would be good for not losing the item
[2017/05/18 15:38] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): that would be abused
[2017/05/18 15:38] Rex Cronon: not really jenna. my trash would overflow with bullets:)
[2017/05/18 15:38] Mazidox Linden: I don't know where you're getting your info from Lucia, but it's a bit off.
[2017/05/18 15:38] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): @Mazi, why I asked, heh
[2017/05/18 15:39] Mazidox Linden: It's definitely Jigglypuff.
[2017/05/18 15:39] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): its from today's maint viewer release notes
[2017/05/18 15:39] Mazidox Linden: We're not overriding your neural clusters or anything. Promise.
[2017/05/18 15:39] Minuet Voir: Hey Snipi
[2017/05/18 15:39] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I don't see anything in the viewer though
[2017/05/18 15:40] Caleb Linden: you mean what can overide it?
[2017/05/18 15:40] Mazidox Linden: World->Region/Estate
[2017/05/18 15:40] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): theres allegedly new floaters and info in About Land and Region/Estate but I'm not seeing anything new from last version
[2017/05/18 15:40] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): yeah, whats new?
[2017/05/18 15:41] Whirly Fizzle: Hmm so one thing I notice, which may explain the Trash folder not displaying all objects in it - rez a copy object & delete it. Rez that object out of Trash. Notice the object visibly disappears out of Trash. Rezzing a copy object from any other folder wouldn't remove it from the folder. So, is that object still in Trash but the viewer fauils to display it? Does that cause the Trash folder versions to get out of sync?
[2017/05/18 15:41] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): the Parcel owners can be more restrictive was there last version
[2017/05/18 15:41] Mazidox Linden: I heard someone saying something about trash folder versioning yesterday or today, but I know nothing else about it.
[2017/05/18 15:41] Caleb Linden: i'd like to try that whirly
[2017/05/18 15:42] Whirly Fizzle: I filed a bug when my Trash folder versions got hosed
[2017/05/18 15:42] Jenna Felton: i always thought when you rez out of trash, the object is removed in trash because you reused it
[2017/05/18 15:43] Mazidox Linden: You doing it Caleb or shall I?
[2017/05/18 15:43] Whirly Fizzle: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-100696
[2017/05/18 15:43] Object: Hello, Avatar!
[2017/05/18 15:43] sionEgg 15: To change the Objectname of this Egg, touch it and type: name <newname>
[2017/05/18 15:43] sionEgg 15: Please remember to remove the copy-flag for the next owner!
[2017/05/18 15:43] sionEgg 15: This egg can be cloned. The genetic telomers took damage due to cloning. Please do not buy copyable eggs!
[2017/05/18 15:45] proteggtor orig. name%3A: Touch me to unpack the stored egg.
[2017/05/18 15:45] proteggtor orig. name%3A: This egg decays in -54389 hours.
[2017/05/18 15:45] proteggtor orig. name%3A: This egg has decayed! Eggs decay 60 days after they have been laid.
[2017/05/18 15:45] Minuet Voir: spammy object is spammy
[2017/05/18 15:45] Rex Cronon: u r laying eggs? lol:)
[2017/05/18 15:45] Duckie Dickins: ahh no chickens to go with the cow
[2017/05/18 15:45] Theresa Tennyson: Rotten egg is rotten too.
[2017/05/18 15:46] Mazidox Linden: Wait, there's an Other information and an Other Other information
[2017/05/18 15:46] Mazidox Linden: I don't know what to think now!
[2017/05/18 15:46] Rex Cronon: r those pokemon eggs:)
[2017/05/18 15:46] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): so anything coming down the pipe?
[2017/05/18 15:47] arton Rotaru: paper
[2017/05/18 15:47] Rex Cronon: no more lsl functions in such long time:(
[2017/05/18 15:47] Mazidox Linden: Other than what I said before, I'm not aware of anything else.
[2017/05/18 15:47] Caleb Linden: just the ongoing RCs getting promoted, we don't like juggling so many different RCs
[2017/05/18 15:48] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): the only lsl functions known are the supp animation ones
[2017/05/18 15:48] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): the only ones known coming
[2017/05/18 15:48] Mazidox Linden: The huh?
[2017/05/18 15:48] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): supplemental animations
[2017/05/18 15:48] Caleb Linden: sup
[2017/05/18 15:48] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): assigning more than one animation for an anim override
[2017/05/18 15:48] Rex Cronon: what functions r those?
[2017/05/18 15:48] Mazidox Linden: I haven't heard anything about that.
[2017/05/18 15:48] Rex Cronon: oh
[2017/05/18 15:49] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Mazi, talk to Vir, heh
[2017/05/18 15:49] Mazidox Linden: Sounds cool though if it's a thing.
[2017/05/18 15:49] Caleb Linden: is it Vir News?
[2017/05/18 15:49] Mazidox Linden: I virtually never talk to Vir.
[2017/05/18 15:49] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): tehn you suck
[2017/05/18 15:49] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): lol
[2017/05/18 15:49] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): he's working on neat things
[2017/05/18 15:49] Mazidox Linden: Hey, that's not nice.
[2017/05/18 15:49] Rex Cronon: they do it face 2 face lucy:)
[2017/05/18 15:49] Jenna Felton: :)
[2017/05/18 15:49] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I wonder about that Rex
[2017/05/18 15:49] Caleb Linden: mazidox, you know how we do the sad walk? let's do it from the dance floor
[2017/05/18 15:50] arton Rotaru: lets wait until we have Vir test servers on aditi
[2017/05/18 15:50] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I can't wait for the first animated mesh project viewer
[2017/05/18 15:50] arton Rotaru: than you will probably have reason to talk
[2017/05/18 15:50] Theresa Tennyson: /me eyes the chickens hungrily.
[2017/05/18 15:51] Minuet Voir: sad walk? is that anything like a perp walk?
[2017/05/18 15:51] Mazidox Linden: I mean, as you say, there are LSL functions. That would probably necessitate some talking, yes.
[2017/05/18 15:51] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): https://media.giphy.com/media/ZvKQKQk8lpk0E/giphy.gif?response_id=591e255728efdb6e2250f46e
[2017/05/18 15:51] arton Rotaru: I more meant the other Vir project
[2017/05/18 15:51] Minuet Voir: awwww
[2017/05/18 15:52] Minuet Voir: I loved that show lol
[2017/05/18 15:52] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): coming with a yet new season
[2017/05/18 15:52] Minuet Voir: oh yay!
[2017/05/18 15:52] arton Rotaru: cool phone booth in the background ^^
[2017/05/18 15:53] Minuet Voir: what's a phone booth?
[2017/05/18 15:53] Rex Cronon: is used for time travel:)
[2017/05/18 15:53] arton Rotaru: something like this on your right
[2017/05/18 15:53] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): next ask what is VHS
[2017/05/18 15:54] Mazidox Linden: Doesn't that make it a time booth?
[2017/05/18 15:54] Minuet Voir: sorry excuse for a booth
[2017/05/18 15:54] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): VHS is a vaporwave thing
[2017/05/18 15:54] arton Rotaru: VHS = Volkshochschule
[2017/05/18 15:54] Minuet Voir: (also kidding ;-))
[2017/05/18 15:55] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): back to the trash thing, if you ever found an empty trash message, please let us know and don't empty it
[2017/05/18 15:55] Mazidox Linden: Oooohhhh, yeah, that'd be down right spiffy!
[2017/05/18 15:55] Whirly Fizzle: The empty trash message is expected behaviour though if you have >5000 iytems in Trash
[2017/05/18 15:55] Rex Cronon: what does an "empty trash message" look like?
[2017/05/18 15:55] Whirly Fizzle: *items
[2017/05/18 15:55] Minuet Voir: all my purged trash from agni is nicely synced here, but I don't see anything that shouldn't be there
[2017/05/18 15:56] Whirly Fizzle: InventoryTrashMaxCapacity - set that lower, easier to repro. needs a relog to change I thiunk
[2017/05/18 15:56] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): thanks
[2017/05/18 15:56] Mazidox Linden: Ugh, I was looking for that earlier today. Thank you Whirly.
[2017/05/18 15:56] Mazidox Linden: I looked under Trash and Max, but not Inventory.
[2017/05/18 15:57] Whirly Fizzle: You need searchable debug ;)
[2017/05/18 15:57] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): FS feature?
[2017/05/18 15:57] arton Rotaru: that would be nice
[2017/05/18 15:57] Whirly Fizzle: Yus
[2017/05/18 15:57] Whirly Fizzle: One of my faves
[2017/05/18 15:57] arton Rotaru: aha
[2017/05/18 15:57] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): is that partial inv name searching?
[2017/05/18 15:57] Minuet Voir: this is how it looks using FS Vintage http://imgur.com/a/XzEmY
[2017/05/18 15:57] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I use partial name search religiously
[2017/05/18 15:58] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): *multi partial name search
[2017/05/18 15:58] Rex Cronon: if fs would allow addons it would be even more popular:)
[2017/05/18 15:58] Mazidox Linden: Anything else in the ~5 (we started late) minutes we have left?
[2017/05/18 15:58] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): addons would be a support nightmare
[2017/05/18 15:58] Whirly Fizzle: Addons would be griffers dream
[2017/05/18 15:58] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): ^
[2017/05/18 15:58] arton Rotaru: Caleb will get a ticket
[2017/05/18 15:59] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): yes, I something else
[2017/05/18 15:59] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): guess what, i got a ticket last week
[2017/05/18 15:59] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): $110
[2017/05/18 15:59] Mazidox Linden: Ouch
[2017/05/18 15:59] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): shouts: WHERE ARE THE DAMN SHINEYS?!?!!!!!!!one!!!11!!won
[2017/05/18 15:59] Rex Cronon: whirly, that is what some people used to call FS(and some even do now) :)
[2017/05/18 15:59] arton Rotaru: oh shitty
[2017/05/18 15:59] Minuet Voir: ouch!
[2017/05/18 15:59] Whirly Fizzle: We did have a Lua plugin woirking but iot was decided never to release it because it meant anyone could use an addon to make it into a copybot viewer that couldnt be distinguished from the real FS.
[2017/05/18 15:59] Mazidox Linden: I didn't get a ticket, mostly because I was busy getting rained on.
[2017/05/18 16:00] Jenna Felton: that would be bad for FS
[2017/05/18 16:00] Duckie Dickins: yeah but isn't there already darkstorm viewer?
[2017/05/18 16:00] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): yes, but DS isn't legal
[2017/05/18 16:00] Whirly Fizzle: Yes but that's traceable by LL
[2017/05/18 16:00] Whirly Fizzle: Their spoofing sucks.
[2017/05/18 16:01] Rex Cronon: i never heard that firefox was responsible for addons, so why would fs be?
[2017/05/18 16:01] Whirly Fizzle: Not going to happen
[2017/05/18 16:01] Rex Cronon: ok
[2017/05/18 16:01] Whirly Fizzle: Feel free to fork FS & add it yourself though
[2017/05/18 16:01] Rex Cronon: i g2g. tc folks and have fun:)
[2017/05/18 16:02] Minuet Voir: bye Rex
[2017/05/18 16:02] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): thanks
[2017/05/18 16:02] arton Rotaru: bye Rex
[2017/05/18 16:02] Rex Cronon: tc minue
[2017/05/18 16:02] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I have complexity changes testing to do, heh
[2017/05/18 16:02] Jenna Felton: have good night rex :)
[2017/05/18 16:02] Rex Cronon: minuet*
[2017/05/18 16:02] Rex Cronon: tc arton
[2017/05/18 16:02] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): ACI
[2017/05/18 16:02] Rex Cronon: tc jenna
[2017/05/18 16:02] arton Rotaru: what complexity changes?
[2017/05/18 16:02] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): "Added a debug setting “MaxAttachmentComplexity" to increase per-attachment render limit. For you, Lucia Nightfire. "
[2017/05/18 16:03] Mazidox Linden: I think that about wraps us up for the week. Join us next week as our intrepid heroes try and stem a growing tide of release candidates with testing and good looks!
[2017/05/18 16:03] Minuet Voir: ahaha yay! Thanks :-)
[2017/05/18 16:03] Jenna Felton: hehe, cool
[2017/05/18 16:03] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): tell Rider to hurry up with his final shiney, heh
[2017/05/18 16:03] arton Rotaru: ylright, thanks guys
[2017/05/18 16:03] arton Rotaru: move ya cars
[2017/05/18 16:04] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): see ya
[2017/05/18 16:04] Jenna Felton: let's testing force be with you :)
[2017/05/18 16:04] Jenna Felton: or so
[2017/05/18 16:04] arton Rotaru: lol
[2017/05/18 16:04] Jenna Felton: i have also to go. wish you all a good time and nice end of the week :)
[2017/05/18 16:04] arton Rotaru: we pretty much messed up this place this time
[2017/05/18 16:05] Jenna Felton: see you all other time
[2017/05/18 16:05] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): hi whirly, can you try the character tests again?
[2017/05/18 16:05] arton Rotaru: bye Jenna
[2017/05/18 16:05] Minuet Voir: thanks
[2017/05/18 16:05] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i think ops updated something
[2017/05/18 16:05] Minuet Voir: nothing like mindless amusement
[2017/05/18 16:05] arton Rotaru: lol
[2017/05/18 16:06] couch gun: whispers: Use Mouselook (press 'M') to shoot me.
[2017/05/18 16:06] couch gun: whispers: Choose 'Detach' from my menu to take me off.
[2017/05/18 16:06] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): hehe