Doc Team/2009-07-01

== Transcript ==
*[13:00 SLT] Torley Linden: FRIENDLY GREETINGS!
*[13:00 SLT] Jeremy Linden: HELLO!
*[13:00 SLT] Torley Linden: OHAI
*[13:01 SLT] Texasdave Texan: Howdy ma'am
*[13:01 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: Jello, Torley, Jeremy, and the Jon and Kate and Eight to come.
*[13:01 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Arawn Spitteler has pinged you.
*[13:01 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: Hi, Ellla
*[13:02 SLT] Torley Linden: alas 'tis just Jeremy and my little self today but hope we shall amuse you sufficiently
*[13:02 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Torley Linden has pinged you.
*[13:02 SLT] xstorm Radek: yep little
*[13:02 SLT] Ellla McMahon: hello everyone :))
*[13:03 SLT] xstorm Radek: hi hi
*[13:03 SLT] xstorm Radek: person that has not rez yet
*[13:03 SLT] Torley Linden: on the other end of the scale i had a honkin' huge ED-209 avatar
*[13:03 SLT] xstorm Radek: *GIGGLES* :)Jeremy Linden 21:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
*[13:04 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: I can't send a message to my own friends conference, and the messages to that effect get in hte way of typing to open chat.
*[13:04 SLT] Torley Linden: KB2Wiki proceeds! http://tr.im/kb2wiki there is a lot of categorization and such to do, however. if any of you are interested in editing pages and contributing, this (where you are now) is a great place to ask questions!
*[13:04 SLT] xstorm Radek: bet you say that to every one Torley
*[13:04 SLT] xstorm Radek: OMG!!
*[13:04 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Uh oh, script errors.
*[13:05 SLT] Torley Linden: my guns broke, not happy about that
*[13:05 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: Hey, MariAnne
*[13:05 SLT] Torley Linden: they were splodin stuff just moments earlier!
*[13:05 SLT] xstorm Radek: Marianne hide
*[13:05 SLT] Marianne McCann: Hiya
*[13:05 SLT] Torley Linden: welcome all to our Documentation Team office hours... or half the doc team this week, anyway!
*[13:05 SLT] xstorm Radek: i know why your guns broke
*[13:06 SLT] xstorm Radek: hi hi Youri
*[13:06 SLT] Torley Linden: why's that, xstorm?
*[13:06 SLT] Youri Ashton: hello
*[13:06 SLT] Youri Ashton: hey Torley!
*[13:06 SLT] Torley Linden: hey Youri thanks for the avatar!
*[13:06 SLT] xstorm Radek: the script needs a end and restart in the code
*[13:06 SLT] Evil Titler: Give Asuka2 Torok a new nasty title! You have 60 seconds to assign it with /69!
*[13:06 SLT] Youri Ashton: everyone is still rezzing for me :p
*[13:06 SLT] Torley Linden: reminded me a little of Master Chief, was he an influence?
*[13:06 SLT] Youri Ashton: no problem Torley!
*[13:07 SLT] Youri Ashton: little bit of master chief and a little bit of gundam :)
*[13:07 SLT] Torley Linden: ahhh
*[13:07 SLT] Youri Ashton: with a texture on it that you should reconnise :p
*[13:07 SLT] xstorm Radek: this is why i feel it be better when we teleport the scripts stop then restart
*[13:07 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: haha love gndem
*[13:07 SLT] Evil Titler: Nobody gave Asuka2 Torok a new title! S/he must live a while with the old one!
*[13:07 SLT] xstorm Radek: it will make less error
*[13:07 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: gundam*
*[13:07 SLT] Torley Linden: yes i certainly recognized the texture
*[13:08 SLT] Torley Linden: heh heh
*[13:08 SLT] Marianne McCann: wasn't that Donny and Marie song? "I'm a little bit gundan... and I'm a little bit Master Cheif"
*[13:08 SLT] Youri Ashton: hi jeremy! sorry, you just rezzed for me :p
*[13:08 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Youri Ashton has pinged you.
*[13:08 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Hello!
*[13:08 SLT] Torley Linden: wow Asuka those are some fancy, baggy pants
*[13:08 SLT] Torley Linden: hahahaha Mari
*[13:08 SLT] Youri Ashton: dont see kate yet tho :p
*[13:08 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: hehe thanks torley
*[13:08 SLT] lela Rokocoko: hello:)
*[13:08 SLT] Torley Linden: Jon and Kate aren't able to be with us here today
*[13:08 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: actualy theres something i wanted to ask you
*[13:08 SLT] Youri Ashton: awwww, to bad
*[13:08 SLT] xstorm Radek: i have so many broken huds do to the script not doing a reset to run its not funny
*[13:08 SLT] Torley Linden: sure ask!
*[13:08 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: what happend to here island
*[13:08 SLT] christos Maggs: hi guys
*[13:09 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: it looks like it was attacked
*[13:09 SLT] Torley Linden: oh Asuka, we're redecorating! but now there are UFOs and angry pandas and other surprises...
*[13:09 SLT] Arawn Spitteler shudders to think what Here would look like, without Tacks
*[13:10 SLT] xstorm Radek: or the av has a part that penguns
*[13:10 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: giggles any chanse i could get that avatar :D
*[13:10 SLT] xstorm Radek: *GIGGLES* :)Jeremy Linden 21:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
*[13:10 SLT] Youri Ashton: oh, then i might have a great addition for your island Torley!
*[13:10 SLT] Youri Ashton: euhm.. lemme find it
*[13:10 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D
*[13:10 SLT] Torley Linden: current avatar i have is by Meandyou Akina
*[13:10 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: hehe
*[13:10 SLT] xstorm Radek: the raining pianos
*[13:10 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Where can I get the Jello avatar?
*[13:10 SLT] xstorm Radek: the music box ?
*[13:10 SLT] Marianne McCann: Jello is by Flea Bussy
*[13:10 SLT] Torley Linden: how is everyone finding Second Life 1.23 so far? anyone not using it?
*[13:11 SLT] Marianne McCann: I'm not using it
*[13:11 SLT] Youri Ashton: ow, you still can 'find' it as well if you prefer
*[13:11 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: i have one bug i can notice
*[13:11 SLT] xstorm Radek: the lost ailen radio caller ?
*[13:11 SLT] Youri Ashton: its on the Hellen Keller day sims
*[13:11 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: Avaria, I got Jello for L$10
*[13:11 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: closing a search window leaves an empty frame
*[13:11 SLT] Torley Linden: Mari, any particular reason why?
*[13:11 SLT] Marianne McCann: I used the RC for it, but I really did not care for some of the menu changes
*[13:11 SLT] Torley Linden: hmmm Asuka i haven't seen that yet
*[13:11 SLT] Torley Linden: Mari, like the pie menu rearrangements? or others?
*[13:11 SLT] Youri Ashton: basic idea is to use Max the dog to find the clues and eventually th prize (its a pandabear)
*[13:12 SLT] Marianne McCann: yup. The Pie, mainly.
*[13:12 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: i think its due to lag
*[13:12 SLT] Youri Ashton: there ya go!
*[13:12 SLT] Marianne McCann: I felt some of those changes were unnecessary and a bit unintuitive
*[13:12 SLT] Marianne McCann: So... I'll stick with 1.22.11 til I gotta upgrade
*[13:12 SLT] Youri Ashton: Jeremy, or anyone else, want a copy of this bear as well?
*[13:12 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Youri Ashton has pinged you.
*[13:12 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Bear?
*[13:12 SLT] Marianne McCann: Bear?
*[13:12 SLT] Torley Linden: i kept going into Appearance mode when i meant to Detach. it'll take me awhile to get used to that. on the upside it's easier to report abuse on someone from pie menu now. but longer-term, it's more likely we rethink if we really need a pie menu. so this is what happens in t he interim.
*[13:12 SLT] Torley Linden: thanks Youri
*[13:12 SLT] Torley Linden: *nods to Mari*
*[13:13 SLT] Youri Ashton: no problem!
*[13:13 SLT] xstorm Radek: i feel safer with Snowglobe 1.0.2 (2451) Jun 19 2009 19:29:16 (Snowglobe Release)
*[13:13 SLT] Jeremy Linden: I think the Appearance change in the pie menu was reverted. I kept going into Appearance when I meant to edit an attachment.
*[13:13 SLT] Marianne McCann: I'm fine with a pie. I also don't mind the idea of a contextual as seen in the early beta for viewer 2009.
*[13:13 SLT] Youri Ashton: lol, trying to attach it so i can show
*[13:13 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: torley do you have a linden watermellon (bear)
*[13:13 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: omg THE Torley!!!!
*[13:13 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: I use 1.23 becuase it fixes Space Navigator support on Linux. Other than that it has nothing for me but some more rendering bugs
*[13:13 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: where?!!!!
*[13:13 SLT] xstorm Radek: hi Erin
*[13:13 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: hihi!!!!
*[13:13 SLT] Marianne McCann: To me, it makes intuitive sense to click on a person or thing and get some sort of menu pop up
*[13:13 SLT] Torley Linden: hello ErinSelene, i'm currently crushing a couch.
*[13:14 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: giggles erin i would think u never seen a linden before
*[13:14 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D
*[13:14 SLT] Youri Ashton: ther eit is
*[13:14 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: Torley sent Woveli a bear!
*[13:14 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: HIIIIIII!!!!!
*[13:14 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Yes, do not eliminate the popup menu, even if it is not a pie
*[13:14 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: Me and my alt are big Fans!
*[13:14 SLT] Torley Linden: aye Mari -- those Viewer 2009 are of course very very rough so a lot could change -- just to set expectations!
*[13:14 SLT] Torley Linden: i'm also trying Snowglobe for certain things
*[13:14 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Torley's like an A-list Linden, too. He's teh popular!
*[13:14 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: sorry i will calm down now *embaressed*
*[13:14 SLT] Torley Linden: XD
*[13:14 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: lol
*[13:14 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: giggles i got add to so were like related
*[13:14 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D
*[13:14 SLT] Torley Linden: that's a classic line, ErinSelene
*[13:14 SLT] Youri Ashton: if anyone wanta copy, just ask me in IM :) (not really nice to do this all in main) :p
*[13:14 SLT] Marianne McCann: Oh, of course. I hope many things with it change, to be honest. But most of what I'd love to see tinkered with whatsn't in that early rough one
*[13:14 SLT] Marianne McCann grins
*[13:15 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: Mr. Popular
*[13:15 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: yup
*[13:15 SLT] Torley Linden: please send friendship requests to my alt, Torley Olmstead =) i would appreciate that
*[13:15 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: v.v
*[13:15 SLT] Torley Linden: and yes Asuka i shall send you my bear
*[13:15 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: yay
*[13:15 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D
*[13:15 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: really?
*[13:15 SLT] xstorm Radek: Torley has to much work on his plate to hang with just any one now :-)
*[13:15 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: :D
*[13:15 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: wow!!!
*[13:15 SLT] Youri Ashton: mega prim on the map again
*[13:15 SLT] Youri Ashton: lol
*[13:15 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: oh I understand that
*[13:15 SLT] Youri Ashton: around help island
*[13:15 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: haha thats one awsome av
*[13:16 SLT] Torley Linden: i have a watermelon terminator, now all i need is a watermelon robocop and i'll be set for life... or Second Life
*[13:16 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: giggles look at torley with all the ladies
*[13:16 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D
*[13:16 SLT] Torley Linden: married man, or bot here ^_^
*[13:16 SLT] Torley Linden: ha ha
*[13:16 SLT] Youri Ashton: soon you get something to add to that list :p
*[13:16 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: haha yea ravennel is a lucky girl
*[13:16 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :)
*[13:17 SLT] Youri Ashton: check your vids and you might know what i mean :p
*[13:17 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: btw torley do you have any of those amp your aussum shirts
*[13:17 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D
*[13:17 SLT] Marianne McCann: Torley - I've been having a lot of success shooting with Berio and taking stuff into iMovie. Great and largely free video stuffs, though low on effects/
*[13:17 SLT] Torley Linden: wow there were a lot of iterations for the pie menu changes, Jeremy had me curious about it -- https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8080
*[13:17 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Torley Linden has pinged you.
*[13:17 SLT] Evil Titler: Give Asuka2 Torok a new nasty title! You have 60 seconds to assign it with /69!
*[13:18 SLT] Torley Linden: oh that's good to know Mari, i can suggest Berio for future Mac'ers seeking a free option!
*[13:18 SLT] Evil Titler: Marianne McCann assigned a new title to Asuka2 Torok. S/he must live with it for a while!
*[13:18 SLT] Jeremy Linden had some words with the devs after some of the first changes.
*[13:18 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: giggles wants torley to five me a name next time :DD
*[13:18 SLT] Torley Linden: oh Asuka glad you noticed, Belinda Linden made 'em so try asking her :)
*[13:18 SLT] Youri Ashton: currently not much on SL tho, I boughed a 1.5TB external HDD and cleaning up EVERYTHING on data i have currently. should take me some time to do
*[13:18 SLT] Torley Linden imagines Jeremy's eyes glowing into those dev's souls
*[13:18 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Torley Linden has pinged you.
*[13:18 SLT] Marianne McCann: Definitely. it's simple, but I use it exclusively now. Esp. for lower power macs, I bet it would be dandy!
*[13:18 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: haha torley i keep an eye on your blog/facebook/twitter
*[13:19 SLT] Torley Linden: social network fun :D
*[13:19 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: what is jeremy wearing
*[13:19 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Purity Sweetwater has pinged you.
*[13:19 SLT] xstorm Radek: PIE Menu made a mess for me i do a lot of things from memory
*[13:19 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: yea its fun but u dont realy answer :D
*[13:19 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Eh?
*[13:19 SLT] Youri Ashton: jeremy is wearing hair :p
*[13:19 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Youri Ashton has pinged you.
*[13:19 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: oh its xstorm
*[13:19 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: lol
*[13:19 SLT] Youri Ashton: anything specific? :p
*[13:19 SLT] Jeremy Linden looks at himself.
*[13:19 SLT] xstorm Radek: if some one mess with a UI setup i make errors
*[13:19 SLT] Marianne McCann: "Social Networking", ths century's word for "Stalker"
*[13:19 SLT] Torley Linden: xstorm, i guess it's also hard if the menu layout was poor, and you learn things the "wrong" way... and later improvements are a temporary hindrance due to what you're used to
*[13:19 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: what is xstorm wearing
*[13:19 SLT] Marianne McCann snickers
*[13:19 SLT] Youri Ashton: clothes? shoes?
*[13:19 SLT] Torley Linden: hahahahaha Mari omg what a euphemism
*[13:20 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: sowy
*[13:20 SLT] xstorm Radek: hi Purity :-)
*[13:20 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: oh also i saw u on koinup
*[13:20 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: hi xstorm
*[13:20 SLT] Torley Linden: i never learned to type the correct way with all fingers, now i feel it's too late to change. if i had enough time and patience i could do it the "proper" way...
*[13:20 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: wotare u
*[13:20 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: erm . . . . I have a question about the 'buying your last name thing . . . do i talk you you guys or a different linden?
*[13:20 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Ame with me
*[13:21 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: he is a watermellon of doom
*[13:21 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D
*[13:21 SLT] xstorm Radek: a stem probe
*[13:21 SLT] Youri Ashton: in a way she is right Torley, peopel keep coming on your 'space' to find the latest pictures, info, etc. its in a way the same as stalking
*[13:21 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: ohmyyyyyyyy
*[13:21 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: I learned to type when I was too young and my small fingers were not strong enough
*[13:21 SLT] Laurent Bechir: sorry
*[13:21 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: poor jeremy sitting all on his own
*[13:21 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Asuka2 Torok has pinged you.
*[13:22 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Ooo. Careful of the residual Jello on that seat.
*[13:22 SLT] xstorm Radek: *GIGGLES* :)Jeremy Linden 21:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
*[13:22 SLT] Youri Ashton: on the other side.... the people using that have a lack of attention and try to get even the slightest attention in that way (not that i am any different.... :p )
*[13:22 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: rifl
*[13:22 SLT] Torley Linden: ErinSelene, what's your question about that?
*[13:22 SLT] xstorm Radek: *GIGGLES* :)Jeremy Linden 21:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
*[13:22 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: rofl
*[13:22 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: lol
*[13:22 SLT] Torley Linden: omg!
*[13:22 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: its a linden sandwitch
*[13:22 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D
*[13:22 SLT] Torley Linden: Jeremy's seat is VERY popular today
*[13:22 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Torley Linden has pinged you.
*[13:22 SLT] Jeremy Linden: As for custom last names, it looks like we've got a beta program in place: http://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=4794
*[13:22 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Whoa!
*[13:22 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: giggles
*[13:22 SLT] xstorm Radek: thats a good screen shot
*[13:22 SLT] Youri Ashton: lol, jeremy! dont take all the ladies my friend! give us men also some! :D
*[13:22 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Youri Ashton has pinged you.
*[13:23 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: felt sorry for jeremy all on his own:D
*[13:23 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Asuka2 Torok has pinged you.
*[13:23 SLT] Youri Ashton: lol
*[13:23 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: well they are so expensive . . . will the price go down someday?
*[13:23 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: lol
*[13:23 SLT] Torley Linden: Laurent, i would like to say thanks for correcting an error on http://tr.im/movebuild and thanks for continuing to make French Second Life video tutorials!
*[13:23 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: Remember when a sit target only accepted one avatar? How long ago was that?
*[13:23 SLT] Torley Linden: very cool raptor :)
*[13:23 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: It Ain't fittin it just ain't fittin....
*[13:23 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: haha u know torley if u have time it would be cool to video some of these meetings for your video blog
*[13:23 SLT] Laurent Bechir: you're welcome
*[13:24 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: there is acloud on mah head
*[13:24 SLT] Torley Linden: i do take pictures on occasion, Asuka =)
*[13:24 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: * reeeeeeally wants to take the que to ask for a autographe but doesn't*
*[13:25 SLT] Jeremy Linden: ErinSelene, I'm afraid I don't know any more about our custom names program than what's in the knowledge base. :-/
*[13:25 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: managed to get the hang of the world space mouse thingy?
*[13:25 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: ok
*[13:25 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*No Problem!!!!*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*
*[13:25 SLT] Youri Ashton: agreed asuka! would be loevely to have a meeting on video for a change! then peopel can see what a meeting is
*[13:25 SLT] xstorm Radek gave you whatfun.
*[13:25 SLT] Torley Linden: the SpaceNavigator? heck yes, it's a lot of fun
*[13:25 SLT] Torley Linden: i love new and exciting FRESH ways to control getting around SL
*[13:25 SLT] Youri Ashton: may attract more people to visit the meetings as well!
*[13:25 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: giggles :D
*[13:25 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Heh. When I try to use the SpaceNavigator I wander around like I'm drunk :-P
*[13:26 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: i would love to see agumented reality in sl
*[13:26 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: I had to tone down the sensitivities
*[13:26 SLT] Torley Linden: i'm not sure exciting video'ing the whole text chat meeting would be... but we certainly have some very very funny moments
*[13:26 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: If the im is till open, Torley must have forgotten to Twet
*[13:26 SLT] Purity Sweetwater smiles
*[13:26 SLT] Torley Linden: i did tweet today!
*[13:26 SLT] Marianne McCann: Thankoo
*[13:26 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: u heard of the tech torley?
*[13:26 SLT] Torley Linden: which tech?
*[13:26 SLT] Youri Ashton: i dont use twitter, i do have facebook, myspace, hyves
*[13:26 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: we could actualy feel the texture and weight of a virtual item and move it
*[13:26 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D
*[13:27 SLT] Torley Linden: a long time ago i put in a request for someone to make a "drunk o cam".
*[13:27 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: that would be an awsome step
*[13:27 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Aha! Haptics :-D
*[13:27 SLT] Torley Linden: it is possible with FollowCam but i haven't ever, uh, followed up to it
*[13:27 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: yep thats the one jeremy
*[13:27 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Asuka2 Torok has pinged you.
*[13:27 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: couldnt think of the name
*[13:27 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D
*[13:27 SLT] Jeremy Linden: At least one or two Lindens have a heavy background in haptics.
*[13:27 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: think it would be awsome for building in sl
*[13:27 SLT] Torley Linden: before Natal was announced there was Hands Free 3D, by Merov Linden
*[13:27 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: I cut the movement numbers on SpaceNavigator down by at least half, and increases the deadzone
*[13:27 SLT] Torley Linden: seen http://www.handsfree3d.com/ ?
*[13:27 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: lol Arawn
*[13:28 SLT] Evil Titler: Give Asuka2 Torok a new nasty title! You have 60 seconds to assign it with /69!
*[13:28 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: like the soace navigator but one step further
*[13:28 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: Haptics, what Andrew was hired for, before Lindens existed. They're nicely described i my cousin's book Chimera, but involve overly advanced technology, for SL
*[13:28 SLT] Evil Titler: xstorm Radek assigned a new title to Asuka2 Torok. S/he must live with it for a while!
*[13:28 SLT] Youri Ashton: correct link it seems, Torley
*[13:28 SLT] Youri Ashton: thanks
*[13:28 SLT] Torley Linden: Andrew is a real rocket scientist
*[13:28 SLT] Torley Linden: the first i heard of him was some forum posts with that bald-headed kind of Dr. Evil avatar
*[13:29 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: erm . . . what is the linden stance on bots? especially if they arn't use for camping- if you guys know?
*[13:29 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: giggles i been called crazy before:D
*[13:29 SLT] Torley Linden: and i was so impressed by his blend of humor and tech facts
*[13:29 SLT] Youri Ashton: any specific bots?
*[13:29 SLT] Torley Linden: ErinSelene, have you looked at the Knowledge Base info for that?
*[13:29 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: torley u ever been called crazy :D?
*[13:29 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :P
*[13:29 SLT] Torley Linden: in short, depends HOW bots are being used and affecting resources?
*[13:29 SLT] xstorm Radek: *GIGGLES* :)Jeremy Linden 21:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
*[13:29 SLT] Torley Linden: Asuka, many times over. but i'm totally boring to me.
*[13:30 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: yes it said yopu guys don't mind them the same way other games do but i didn't wann ask my real question if it would upset you
*[13:30 SLT] Youri Ashton: with a brilliant mind often comes a healthy form of insanity, it's only a good thing he has that Asuka ;)
*[13:30 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: haha us hyper kids need to stick together
*[13:30 SLT] Torley Linden: crazy to me is, like, spelunking through a hotel.
*[13:30 SLT] xstorm Radek: what game ?
*[13:30 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: add was the best thing to happen to me :D
*[13:30 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: The day that Torley hasn't been called Crazy, his coffee was late
*[13:30 SLT] SL6B Kiosk - 10 Prim Lg - Lit: Thank you! Your SL6B info and goodies will be delivered to you soon!
*[13:30 SLT] Torley Linden: i don't drink coffee, it smells great but upsets my tummy!
*[13:30 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: giggles im a tea person
*[13:30 SLT] Youri Ashton: having so much skills and no fun is just causing the person to go insane in the wrong way ;)
*[13:30 SLT] Frank Curameyer: iced coffee = good
*[13:31 SLT] Jeremy Linden hearts his Keurig coffee machine.
*[13:31 SLT] Marianne McCann: Shoot - gotta run. Have fun, all!
*[13:31 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: iced coffee from Dunkin Donuts = overpriced
*[13:31 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: many genious were seen as crazy because no one understood them
*[13:31 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D
*[13:31 SLT] Frank Curameyer: who buys iced coffee when you can make it lol
*[13:31 SLT] Youri Ashton: true
*[13:31 SLT] Marianne McCann: Bye Bye!!
*[13:31 SLT] Torley Linden: i used to drink Tim Horton's hot chocolate. Tim Horton's is a prime source of canadian coffee
*[13:31 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: torley is a genious of the metaverse
*[13:31 SLT] Torley Linden: bye Mari!
*[13:31 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :)
*[13:31 SLT] Youri Ashton: bye bye :)
*[13:31 SLT] Youri Ashton: lagg
*[13:31 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: he is a bit crazy but we love him for it :D
*[13:31 SLT] Torley Linden: that would make a fancy title.
*[13:32 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: makes it easier to relate to him
*[13:32 SLT] Youri Ashton: true sakura :D
*[13:32 SLT] xstorm Radek: eeewww officer core turn human
*[13:32 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: How come Doc group is the only Office Hours with sofas that work?
*[13:32 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: at least he is purpleish pink
*[13:32 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: gaga
*[13:32 SLT] Torley Linden: it's important to have personality... it's fun
*[13:32 SLT] Youri Ashton: so true :p
*[13:32 SLT] Torley Linden: Mojito, out of sheer curiosity, when/where is the last broken sofa you encountered?
*[13:32 SLT] Jeremy Linden: They were picked out and maintained by someone who has extensive experience with Second Life ;-)
*[13:32 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: thats hot
*[13:33 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Let me see
*[13:33 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Nyx's office hours I think
*[13:33 SLT] Youri Ashton: not fun if everything has to be black or white, there is still a grey area and a color side to life :p
*[13:33 SLT] Torley Linden: (sorry i can't reply to IMs, too much happening in the open!)
*[13:33 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: The poses would sometimes not kick in, and you end up sitting backwards, or on the arm of the sofa
*[13:33 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Or at some odd angle
*[13:33 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: okies torley its a kind of personal question so keep the window open and answer when you get a moment
*[13:33 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Sounds like someone needs to script in some sit targets.
*[13:33 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Unless you clicks on just the right part
*[13:33 SLT] Youri Ashton: Nyx has broken sofa's indeed
*[13:33 SLT] Youri Ashton: no scripted items
*[13:33 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: yes
*[13:34 SLT] Youri Ashton: no poseballs either
*[13:34 SLT] Torley Linden: i had an embarassing situation at Here, one of the deck chairs... the sit target was positioned in such a way that sitting would make you look like your head was in the seat and you were going to get a spanking from behind
*[13:34 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: And there was another one with similar bad sofas, but I am not sure which it was
*[13:34 SLT] Youri Ashton: sit on a prim its basicly the idea, only problem is, it keeps failing
*[13:34 SLT] Jeremy Linden makes a note to bother Nyx about his sofas when he goes to Boston tomorrow.
*[13:34 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: They looked the same - grey things
*[13:34 SLT] Torley Linden: Asuka, oh, i was never diagnosed by ADD
*[13:34 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: oooh is it still there lol
*[13:34 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: lol
*[13:34 SLT] Torley Linden: *with
*[13:34 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: what was it u have then?
*[13:34 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: cant remember :D
*[13:34 SLT] Torley Linden: i get bored easily but can focus on things for long periods of time if they fascinate me
*[13:35 SLT] Youri Ashton: lol, we tried the same thing jeremy, but he doesnt listen to us :p
*[13:35 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Youri Ashton has pinged you.
*[13:35 SLT] Torley Linden: hahahaha
*[13:35 SLT] Youri Ashton: well... does listen, just no action :p
*[13:35 SLT] Torley Linden: this sounds like a detective mystery, Case of the Bad Sofas
*[13:35 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: i remember u doing a talk on add or autism or something a while back
*[13:35 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Might have been Q Linden's sofas. But dont hold me to that
*[13:35 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Heh! Nyx just replied to me that he's open to donations of better sofas :-P
*[13:35 SLT] Torley Linden: oh it was asperger syndrome (form of autism), yes Asuka, i gladly speak publicly about this as Second Life is a healing and wonderful creative space for those with autism!
*[13:35 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: Oh, that's what's called ADHD, when the Teacher gets annoyed. The best cure was recommended by Doctor Maxwell, and involves a little silver hammer.
*[13:35 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D yea that i have also and its a gift and a curse
*[13:36 SLT] guns whispers: Buy a copy and rez from your inventory and attach to your right hand to use.
*[13:36 SLT] Torley Linden: so i first knew about it about a decade ago, far before i ever heard of Second Life. the first SL incident i heard of asperger's was from Pathfinder Lindenr.
*[13:36 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: laag
*[13:36 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: Autism is more a spectrum, than a disorder; I think Diagnosis might be the basic Disorder
*[13:36 SLT] Torley Linden: this was before he was hired by Linden Lab so i knew him on his alt, and he was very forward and very nice! and i was like "wow, cool guy."
*[13:37 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: heh i tried to apply to work in the uk office for linden labs but didnt get a reply email
*[13:37 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: 2 years ago :S
*[13:37 SLT] Torley Linden: anyway, Pathfinder introduced me to the Dreams community and other people in SL who were using it for healing and therapeutic purposes for varying medical conditions.
*[13:37 SLT] Youri Ashton: I have a form of autism as well, no tests have been done to know what it is, but according to the doctor it might be PPD-NOS
*[13:37 SLT] Torley Linden: the human brain is still very much a mystery.
*[13:37 SLT] Youri Ashton: true
*[13:38 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: i like sl because it removes most of the factors that aspegers makes difficult
*[13:38 SLT] xstorm Radek: cHuman brain is a faty computer
*[13:38 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: in real life
*[13:38 SLT] Evil Titler: Give Asuka2 Torok a new nasty title! You have 60 seconds to assign it with /69!
*[13:38 SLT] Youri Ashton: and the 10% we use of it, it will probably be many years before we even get close to know the entire brain
*[13:38 SLT] Evil Titler: Arawn Spitteler assigned a new title to Asuka2 Torok. S/he must live with it for a while!
*[13:38 SLT] Frank Curameyer: the 10% thing is a myth
*[13:38 SLT] Torley Linden: and by then we may have telekinetic powers! j/k ... sort of :)
*[13:38 SLT] Youri Ashton: true Asuka, same idea I had.
*[13:38 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: giggles that would be fun torley
*[13:38 SLT] Torley Linden: Officer, you remind me of the Residents. the performance artists.
*[13:38 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: if someone pisses me off il steal there drink
*[13:38 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D
*[13:39 SLT] Youri Ashton: problem however is that people use SL as well as a excuse to forget that there are real people behind each avitar
*[13:39 SLT] Youri Ashton: if you get my drift
*[13:39 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Somehow I think if I had telekinetic powers my subconscious would have a field day with them.
*[13:39 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: well alot of them arnt real people but bots
*[13:39 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: but that will change hopefully
*[13:39 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: There aren't real people behgind any avatars, but only imaginary people.
*[13:39 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Watch "Forbidden Planet".
*[13:39 SLT] Officer Core: Torley, I'd need a topHat :P
*[13:39 SLT] Torley Linden: :D good point
*[13:40 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: does officer work here?
*[13:40 SLT] Torley Linden: more people are becoming familiar with virtual worlds like Second Life.
*[13:40 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Speaking of specialized names, how about all bots be required to have a last name of "Bot"?
*[13:40 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: he is here like all the time
*[13:40 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D
*[13:40 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: the world is created by peoples minds too
*[13:40 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: but Wilveli is my bot
*[13:40 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: and she won't rez
*[13:40 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Or, as in Isaac Asimov, "R Daneel Olivaw"
*[13:40 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: wolveli*
*[13:40 SLT] Torley Linden: i like the Foundation and Robot stories!
*[13:40 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: its just harder to work with matter
*[13:40 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: or is it
*[13:41 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: See, just prepend an "R"
*[13:41 SLT] Youri Ashton: arawn, so the people that get a avitar and play with that are no real people? could you explain?
*[13:41 SLT] Torley Linden: i believe that came up before Mojito but was deemed too impractical to enforce
*[13:41 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: I was thinking, in addition to partner names, we could have master names,
*[13:41 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: How is Second Life different from Reality?
*[13:41 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: btw torley is there a planned rework on the prim system?
*[13:41 SLT] Purity Sweetwater: master names?
*[13:41 SLT] xstorm Radek: only people with the Linden last name work for linden labs
*[13:41 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: to allow real mesh use
*[13:41 SLT] Torley Linden: as well as people who aren't bots but want the last name Bot for the heck of it, maybe to pretend to be a bot like those Candid Camera store manneqins
*[13:42 SLT] Torley Linden: Asuka, define "rework"? :)
*[13:42 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: Master's ames would be for Subs and Bots, mostly
*[13:42 SLT] Jeremy Linden: People with the Tester last name also work for Linden Lab, but shouldn't be talking to Residents.
*[13:42 SLT] Youri Ashton: no, how can a person behind a avitar not be real? the bots in SL are not advanced enough to be NPC's
*[13:42 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: well for example for a obj mesh or 3ds to be used it wouldnt work with the current system
*[13:42 SLT] Youri Ashton: i know jeremy :D
*[13:42 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Youri Ashton has pinged you.
*[13:42 SLT] xstorm Radek: OMG!! and i started to AR the TESTER name lol
*[13:42 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: According to Nyx, meshes are being looked at
*[13:42 SLT] xstorm Radek: joking ;-)
*[13:42 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: RealXTend already has them
*[13:43 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: You might think you have some thought kept from me but, if I can't see those thoughts, they aren't real, so you have no real secrets.
*[13:43 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: yes but realxtend is heavily modified
*[13:43 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: im talking for the main sl grig
*[13:43 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: grid*
*[13:43 SLT] Torley Linden: Asuka, ah, we have been investigating extending sculpties. no comment further on that for now, though.
*[13:43 SLT] Frank Curameyer: Torley you like robots right? mind if i give you something?
*[13:43 SLT] Torley Linden: please do, Frank!
*[13:43 SLT] Frank Curameyer: okydoky
*[13:43 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: That is why it is not easy, the same "heaviliy modifed" has to get done
*[13:43 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: i mean not with sculpties :D a totaly different method
*[13:43 SLT] Frank Curameyer: lemme just find it
*[13:43 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: without breaking all the old stuff
*[13:43 SLT] xstorm Radek: whats a robot ?
*[13:43 SLT] xstorm Radek: he he he he he
*[13:43 SLT] Torley Linden: and yeah, what Mojito said... Nyx knows more. but, still very much "in the works".
*[13:44 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: so its a future thing?
*[13:44 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: I have seen some INCREDIBLE things done with sculpties though
*[13:44 SLT] Torley Linden: oh thanks a lot Frank, i'll check this out soon!
*[13:44 SLT] Frank Curameyer: welcome :)
*[13:44 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: im happy just knowing its a possibility
*[13:44 SLT] Torley Linden: well, it certainly wouldn't be a past or present thing... so a future possibility, yes. ;)
*[13:44 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: yea im a fan of nomasha's work
*[13:44 SLT] Torley Linden: sculpties were borne on the back of a clever, clever hack... and they've really changed how much of the world looks.
*[13:44 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: he done some amazing things with sculpts
*[13:45 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Oh man, Nomasha. That guy had incredible work even before sculpties.
*[13:45 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: They aren't Hacks or Exploits but User Created Upgrades
*[13:45 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: yea those guitars :D
*[13:45 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: love his work
*[13:45 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: wouldnt surprise me if he got hired to build for lindens
*[13:45 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: I found some sculptures of the playing card people form Alice In WOnderland. Card for a body, with a head on top, arms and legs. One priim
*[13:46 SLT] Torley Linden: technology keeps improving at cheaper prices, too.
*[13:46 SLT] Torley Linden: nowadays, even low-end desktop computers have basic 3D. 10 years ago this was an incredulous stretch!
*[13:46 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: i think a big step for sculpts would be an inworld preview. i mean actualy spawning it to see if it scales properly ect :)
*[13:46 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: What did state of the art technology look like, fifteen decades ago?
*[13:46 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: without uploading a texture
*[13:47 SLT] Torley Linden: Arawn, i visit retrogaming sites to indulge in that :)
*[13:47 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: it was a calculator arwan
*[13:47 SLT] Officer Core: wrong one, sorry
*[13:47 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: giggles
*[13:47 SLT] Torley Linden: flexiprims have added so much too, can't imagine so much of the fashion industry without them
*[13:47 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D
*[13:47 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Babbage's Analytical Engine
*[13:47 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: torley is flexy sculpts possible?
*[13:47 SLT] Torley Linden: Asuka, i've seen it done on other Viewers. i don't know how stable/practical they are in actual usage but they look fun!
*[13:47 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Somebody suggested animating the sculptie bump texture
*[13:48 SLT] Torley Linden: i've seen that for animated animals and such, Mojito.
*[13:48 SLT] Evil Titler: Give Asuka2 Torok a new nasty title! You have 60 seconds to assign it with /69!
*[13:48 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: haha yea another thing i would like to see is true shadows. there was a fork in the svn but its gone now
*[13:48 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: How you mean "true"
*[13:48 SLT] Evil Titler: ErinSelene Llewellyn assigned a new title to Asuka2 Torok. S/he must live with it for a while!
*[13:48 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: well u can fake it with textures
*[13:48 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: 1.23 has shadows, but they kill performance
*[13:49 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: but its not a real shadow
*[13:49 SLT] Torley Linden: dynamic (non-baked and prerendered) shadows, i think? i played with an internal build that has projections for light prims
*[13:49 SLT] Torley Linden: so you can play a movie and have it project across an entire, non-flat surface
*[13:49 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: I have just seen the one that does the sun
*[13:49 SLT] Arawn Spitteler onders how a twisted torus can be flexi?
*[13:49 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: yea it was in the svn but its removed now :( so perhapse it was scrapped
*[13:50 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: There is the pipeline-render branch still there
*[13:50 SLT] Officer Core: off to build, Peace
*[13:50 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: well, it was there last week
*[13:50 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: It does not do the projection thing though
*[13:50 SLT] Laurent Bechir: what is pipeline-render branch ?
*[13:50 SLT] Torley Linden: there are experimental features which are very tantalizing but we certainly can't guarantee the stability of
*[13:50 SLT] Torley Linden: Runitai Linden would be a good guy to ask about that
*[13:50 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: It is in the viewer SVN.
*[13:50 SLT] Torley Linden: if he can share, that is
*[13:50 SLT] Youri Ashton: Quarl is working on something he said on a meeting
*[13:51 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: so soon we can have reall curly flexi hair?
*[13:51 SLT] xstorm Radek: the nice part about sculptys you can name moving sculptys nano prims from them
*[13:51 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: Do words like Pipeline Render Branch exist in the Wiki?
*[13:51 SLT] Youri Ashton: http://www.qarl.com/qLab/?p=59
*[13:51 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: I am not sure about that. I think somebody at an OH told me where it was
*[13:51 SLT] Youri Ashton: look at that one
*[13:51 SLT] xstorm Radek: make
*[13:51 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: But building a viewer is an onerous task the first time.
*[13:52 SLT] Torley Linden: that's a beautiful picture, Youri. i've seen others with Pastrami Linden's avatar... and more exciting things i just can't talk about yet!
*[13:52 SLT] Arawn Spitteler doesn't remember that much of C++, but might get around to learning Python
*[13:52 SLT] Torley Linden: it's always tough, because you want to show people what's coming, but it has to be tested rigorously and perform well, or else it'll be a disappointment
*[13:53 SLT] Laurent Bechir: and does pupetter feature still exists in SVN ?
*[13:53 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: giggles puppetter?
*[13:53 SLT] Torley Linden: i don't know Laurent but that was a lot of fun to play with back years ago
*[13:53 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: moving an av with script?
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*[13:53 SLT] Laurent Bechir: you could move it with your cursor
*[13:53 SLT] Torley Linden: oh, if you want someone really crazy, and i mean this in the best of ways... http://ventrella.com <- guy who conceived flexiprims and avatar puppeteering
*[13:53 SLT] Torley Linden: yeah you could fine-tune and adjust your avatar into poses and save them
*[13:53 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: There i ssomething called "avateering" used by Metanomics for their TV show
*[13:54 SLT] Torley Linden: well, the whole save thing wasn't even finalized
*[13:54 SLT] Torley Linden: what's avateering?
*[13:54 SLT] Laurent Bechir: but only on beta grid
*[13:54 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: pupetteering an avatar
*[13:54 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Typically they have the interviewee on voice.
*[13:54 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Meanwhile some staff poeple animate the avatar.
*[13:55 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: I think puppeteering is a better word for what I do with wolveli than bot . . . I just make her walk with me and talk to people
*[13:55 SLT] Torley Linden: i'd like to see that, sounds more lively than, say, just a "talking head"
*[13:55 SLT] ErinSelene Llewellyn: it's fun
*[13:55 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Check out the web page for Metaniomics, I think there is a link about it
*[13:55 SLT] Torley Linden: too many presenters sound good on voice but can't/don't know how to control their avatar at the same time
*[13:55 SLT] Torley Linden: it's definitely a compound, acquired skill
*[13:55 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Yes, they add hand gestures, etc
*[13:55 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Metanomics does not have the interviewee animate themselves
*[13:55 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: They have staff poeple do it.
*[13:56 SLT] Torley Linden: cool! definitely something i'd like to learn more about, Mojito. thanks for bringing it up!
*[13:56 SLT] Torley Linden: http://www.metanomics.net/index.php/services/art_of_avateering <- needs more info!
*[13:56 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: In the end credits they usually mention the name of the avateers
*[13:56 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: I suppose we're still a ways from Streaming Anims
*[13:56 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: not realy
*[13:56 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: i think sine waves hud does it
*[13:56 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: Wouldn't we need the skins?
*[13:57 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: So you wear a motion-capture suit in RL that completey moves your avatar??
*[13:57 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: u choose animations on the site then reset ur hud in sl and it has the animations u chose
*[13:57 SLT] Torley Linden: someday maybe mocap studios will be affordable enough that they're a modest luxury, instead of a crazy-high-priced one
*[13:58 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: I have seen Japanese geisha dances that I think were done by motion-capture. Very exquisite details in hand and ankle positions
*[13:58 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: u can probably make one at home. it would probably suck but save u alot of cash
*[13:58 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: :D
*[13:58 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: One that just did one arm would be useful.
*[13:58 SLT] Torley Linden: i'll count on innovators to come up with brilliant homebrew solutions
*[13:58 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: the way camera motion tracking is going i think mocap is in trouble
*[13:58 SLT] Evil Titler: Give Asuka2 Torok a new nasty title! You have 60 seconds to assign it with /69!
*[13:58 SLT] Youri Ashton: thanks for the meeting Torley and Jeremy! im movign to the next meeting :)
*[13:58 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Youri Ashton has pinged you.
*[13:59 SLT] Torley Linden: there are always inventors who figure out how to do 80-90% of what a supremely expensive solution does at 20-30% of the cost... or less!
*[13:59 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Thanks for coming, Youri.
*[13:59 SLT] Evil Titler: Purity Sweetwater assigned a new title to Asuka2 Torok. S/he must live with it for a while!
*[13:59 SLT] Torley Linden: you're welcome Youri!
*[13:59 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Wear a black sweater, glue on yellow ping pong balls, have two cameras watch from two angles, and have a room full of processing poweer
*[13:59 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: u seen the new ps3 camera stuff at e3 torley?
*[13:59 SLT] Torley Linden: i haven't, Asuka
*[13:59 SLT] Torley Linden: should get Johnny Lee (miracle worker of Wiimote stuff) on the case
*[14:00 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: its like the wiimote tech but 100000 times more accurate
*[14:00 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: But then need a way within SL to feed in all the joint positions in real time
*[14:00 SLT] Asuka2 Torok: they could write there names on a piece of virtual paper
*[14:00 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: I think Streaming Anim would be a P2P feature
*[14:01 SLT] Mojito Sorbet: Since animation happens in the client, yes you are probably right
*[14:01 SLT] Torley Linden: amazing things do happen. we're all here talking together.
*[14:01 SLT] Arawn Spitteler: Animated graphic clothing would come first, with surfaces labeld with server IPs
*[14:01 SLT] Torley Linden: thanks each & all for coming to our office hour! hopefully next week Jon and Kate Linden will be back with us. i've got to go!
*[14:01 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Cutting here for this week's transcript.
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