Beta Server Office Hours/Minutes/2009-12-10

This meeting was held on December 10th, 2009
= Agenda =
* Discuss resolution of previous open items.
* Updates
** https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/land/blog/2009/12/04/home-is-where-you-hang-your-avatars-hat
* Releases
** 1.34.0 is live on AGNI now
* Any other business
** wassup with 
= Resolved Items =
1.34.0 is released on AGNI
= Meeting Minutes =
* Talked about 1.34
* Talked about Linden Homes
*Let the meeting out early
= Transcript =
Transcript of Oskar Linden's Beta Server Office Hour for December 10th, 2009:
[15:03] Psi Merlin: Looks OK so far.
[15:03] Oskar Linden: hello
[15:03] Psi Merlin: Hi Oskar
[15:03] Liandra Ceawlin: Howdy!
[15:03] Lil Linden: well.. that's good :)
[15:03] Roland Riddler: hello
[15:04] Oskar Linden rustles up an agenda
[15:04] Oskar Linden: what are you guys up to today?
[15:04] Psi Merlin: Did you reroll the pilot regions with the main group Lil?
[15:05] Richard Linden is Online
[15:06] Lil Linden: The pilot regions were rolled on Tuesday
[15:07] Oskar Linden: this is the agenda link http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Beta_Server_Office_Hours
[15:07] Oskar Linden: I'm a little out of it today
[15:08] Oskar Linden: my brain is mush
[15:08] Liandra Ceawlin: There's an agenda nao! =:o
[15:08] Oskar Linden: yes liandra
[15:08] Oskar Linden: the biggest news is that 1.34.0 is fully rolled to AGNI
[15:08] Oskar Linden: right lil?
[15:09] Psi Merlin: Sanrk received the pilot on Tuesday as usaul - and restarted on the same sim host today - could be it just fell over.
[15:09] Psi Merlin: *Snark
[15:09] Oskar Linden: anything you wanna talk about in regards to the release lil?
[15:09] Lil Linden: that is indeed the biggest news
[15:09] Lil Linden: Hmm.
[15:09] kizmut Smit: I got "different version " messages a couple times TP'ing around today.
[15:09] Lil Linden: I'm mostly interested in hearing about any issues that might be 1.34 related
[15:10] Oskar Linden: as am I
[15:10] Psi Merlin: Hi Ima, Krahazik
[15:10] Lil Linden: not much else to report. The big "surprise" of 1.34 has been blogged about now
[15:10] Oskar Linden: so I'm sure you can all guess what the 'extra' stuff in 1.34 was after last weeks blog post
[15:10] Oskar Linden: heh
[15:10] Oskar Linden: lil beat me to it
[15:10] Oskar Linden: so yeah, Linden Homes
[15:10] Lil Linden: https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/land/blog/2009/12/04/home-is-where-you-hang-your-avatars-hat
[15:10] Ima Mechanique: hi Psi, everyone
[15:10] Oskar Linden: we had to do some parcel level restructuring code
[15:11] Oskar Linden: some script limits related stuff
[15:11] Oskar Linden: most of the changes were to deploy related tools though
[15:11] Oskar Linden: a few sim changes, and a few db schema changes
[15:11] Oskar Linden: a lot of the code is web related
[15:12] Oskar Linden: so yeah
[15:12] Lil Linden: just out of curiosity, any opinions on the Linden Homes project?
[15:12] Twisted Laws: i think it sounds like a good idea
[15:12] Oskar Linden: I'm pretty excited about it actually
[15:12] Oskar Linden: the new regions look AMAZING
[15:13] Liandra Ceawlin: I think anything that can help make new users stay is a good idea. It seems like there are not many staying anymore. I don't think it's handy for older users, but I guess that is not its purpose. :P
[15:13] Twisted Laws: are they online?
[15:13] kizmut Smit: Jack showed me a pic from there..
[15:13] kizmut Smit: It's got some HUGE shrooms lying around,
[15:13] Oskar Linden: of course they are online twisted
[15:13] Oskar Linden: just not a line you can get to :-D
[15:13] Twisted Laws: haha
[15:14] kizmut Smit: What would you say is the biggest difference between Linden Homes and First Land (besides the free houses and landscaping)?
[15:14] Oskar Linden: what is first land?
[15:15] kizmut Smit: The original beginner's land for paying users.
[15:15] Oskar Linden: I guess I wasn't here for it
[15:15] Twisted Laws: sounds like you can't game the new method the way that first land was being gamed
[15:15] kizmut Smit: I think it ended in 2007
[15:15] Oskar Linden: Linden Homes is set up pretty nifty
[15:16] kizmut Smit: Your profile says 2008 so that would make sense.. heh
[15:16] Twisted Laws: i got my first land and all the land around me was soon for sale at 5 times the cost or more
[15:16] Oskar Linden: your parcel comes with a fully functioning home AND you have full prim allocation
[15:16] Liandra Ceawlin: The linden home uses up the 512m premium tier, right? Or do we get both? >_>
[15:16] Oskar Linden: it will use your tier
[15:16] Liandra Ceawlin: Nods.
[15:16] Ima Mechanique: do you still pay to buy the Linden HOme?
[15:16] Liandra Ceawlin: Oh, the homes don't count against prim allowance huh? Very cool.
[15:16] Oskar Linden: no you do not pay for the home
[15:17] Ima Mechanique: OK are us oldbies eligible?
[15:17] Oskar Linden: if you have not used your tier I believe you are
[15:17] Liandra Ceawlin: Doh, lol.
[15:17] Ima Mechanique: hehe I can get my tier back
[15:17] Oskar Linden: sell sell sell!
[15:18] Oskar Linden: my alt will buy it for L$10
[15:18] Richard Linden is Offline
[15:18] Liandra Ceawlin: Evil. :P
[15:18] Lil Linden: oskar's a shrewd business man
[15:18] Oskar Linden: actually Oskar is nice... watch out for his alt though
[15:19] Richard Linden is Online
[15:20] Twisted Laws: its hard for me to beat the tier on a couple sandboxes tho, great prim limit (usually)
[15:20] Oskar Linden: heh
[15:20] Oskar Linden: soooo
[15:20] Oskar Linden: how is 1.34 feeling on AGNI?
[15:21] Psi Merlin: They sound like a nice idea - the prim limit for 512 is kinda tight to work with if you have to make a nice home with it as well.
[15:21] Oskar Linden: Psi... we're making the home
[15:21] Oskar Linden: and it doesn't count against uyor prim limit
[15:21] Twisted Laws: seems great (sandboxes in pilot) and haven't seen any problems there
[15:21] kizmut Smit: I'm not seeing any difference TBH.
[15:21] Oskar Linden: awesome kizmut
[15:21] Oskar Linden: 1.34 was a ***** to release
[15:22] Richard Linden is Offline
[15:22] Psi Merlin: Yes - the included home helps a lot there.
[15:22] Liandra Ceawlin: I can't tell any difference. I didn't realize there had been a rolling restart until this morning, lol.
[15:22] Oskar Linden: it did NOT want to go out
[15:22] Lil Linden: ***** = pleasure
[15:22] Lil Linden: right?
[15:22] Oskar Linden: no
[15:22] Lil Linden: hehe
[15:22] Oskar Linden: it felt like giving birth to an elephant
[15:22] Lil Linden: Liandra: most of what was in 1.34 was for Linden Homes
[15:22] Lil Linden: there are a couple bug fixes though
[15:22] Liandra Ceawlin: Nods. I meant that in a good way, like, no bugs I have seen. :P
[15:22] Oskar Linden: there was a last minute content breaking showstopper that took us a few days to figure out
[15:22] Lil Linden: gotcha :)
[15:22] kizmut Smit: Linden Homes is supposed to encourage people to get used to having land on SL.. to stimulate the real estate market.
[15:23] Oskar Linden: among other things kizmut
[15:23] Psi Merlin: 1.34 arrived on agni without drama for me.
[15:23] Oskar Linden: the regions are really pretty
[15:23] Oskar Linden: but yeah, we got 1.34 through QA finally
[15:24] Oskar Linden: really last minute possible
[15:24] Oskar Linden: but it seems to have gone well and is looking good
[15:24] Oskar Linden: thanks all for your help in the beta testing phase
[15:25] Object: Me is a bear
[15:25] Twisted Laws: whens 1.36 coming?
[15:25] Oskar Linden: well we are getting code complete this week hopefully
[15:26] Oskar Linden: I think it is scheduled for mid january
[15:26] Liandra Ceawlin: And is there any ETA yet for BabbageMagic on Agni, the memory quota testing and such, I mean?
[15:27] Liandra Ceawlin: Sorry for bothering about it, but I am supposed to ask, lol.
[15:27] Lil Linden: 1.36 is scheduled for early February
[15:28] Oskar Linden: BabbageMagic?
[15:28] Lil Linden: is that Script Limits?
[15:28] Oskar Linden: is that a euphemism?
[15:28] Lil Linden: hehe
[15:28] Oskar Linden: I am imagining a Linden talent show
[15:28] Oskar Linden: where Babbage does magic
[15:29] Oskar Linden: Lindens Got Talent
[15:29] Opensource Obscure: maybe it's about SVC-3895
[15:29] Liandra Ceawlin: Lol!
[15:29] JIRA-helper: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3895
[#SVC-3895] Rezzing Mono scripted object cripples sim FPS
[15:29] Oskar Linden: sometimes my dysleixa is hilarious
[15:29] Psi Merlin: Steam powered magic of course
[15:29] Oskar Linden: I read 'cripples' without the cr
[15:29] Oskar Linden: and an n
[15:29] Liandra Ceawlin: Yea, script limits, Lil. Sorry, phone is ringing a lot. :<
[15:29] Oskar Linden did a triple take
[15:29] Oskar Linden: *sigh*
[15:31] Opensource Obscure: IIRC, we're going to get improved Statistics with regard to server performances. is this complete server-side now?
[15:31] Lil Linden: I'm not sure what the schedule on that is
[15:32] Lil Linden: now that 1.34 is done though, it'll probably come up on the radar
[15:32] Lil Linden: ask next week :)
[15:32] Liandra Ceawlin: Okies, thanks. :P
[15:32] Oskar Linden: we had our first 1.36 planning meeting yesterday
[15:32] Oskar Linden: I have already forgot almost everything they said
[15:33] Oskar Linden: I don't really have anything else today
[15:33] kizmut Smit makes a note "nipples sim" preferred over "cripples sim"
[15:33] Oskar Linden: I didn't say preferred
[15:33] kizmut Smit: I would.
[15:33] Twisted Laws: why is main grid 140927 and this one is 140892?
[15:33] Oskar Linden: it is just interesting to me how my dyslexia intentionally tries to brighten my day
[15:33] Oskar Linden: Twisted: it's because we haven't updated this
[15:34] Oskar Linden: we were SUPER tight for time
[15:34] Oskar Linden: and were testing the last bug fix on a single region
[15:34] Twisted Laws: ah
[15:34] Lil Linden: I'll roll Aditi to catch it up next week
[15:34] Ima Mechanique: Oskar, that's not dyslexia, just a dirty mind
[15:34] Oskar Linden: :-(
[15:34] Lil Linden: feel free to pester me about that on Agni if it's not done in a timely manner :)
[15:35] Oskar Linden: probably so Ima but you didn't have to call me on it
[15:35] Twisted Laws: and the sim i rent land it was rebooted twice today :p
[15:35] Ima Mechanique: no, but I'm helpful like that ;-)
[15:36] Twisted Laws: 8:31 and 13:24
[15:36] Liandra Ceawlin: I apologize for being rude, but I'm going to have to go back to agni. People chasing me with pitchforks and such. ;( Y'all have a good day, and thanks for your time!
[15:36] Twisted Laws: bye
[15:36] Ima Mechanique: bye Liandra, don't let the peasants get you ;-)
[15:37] Oskar Linden: have a good one liandra
[15:37] Lil Linden: thanks for coming Liandra
[15:37] Oskar Linden: she's already gone
[15:37] Lil Linden: oh.
[15:37] Lil Linden is slow.
[15:37] kizmut Smit replaces "pitchforks"with "nipples" in his notes too for good measure
[15:37] Oskar Linden: anybody working on anything cool?
[15:38] Oskar Linden: good idea kizmut
[15:38] Twisted Laws: snowglobe patches.. actually got one in finally :)
[15:38] Opensource Obscure: my region uses social networks now. http://friendfeed.com/lolsl
[15:38] Ima Mechanique: no, wrestiling with Media content
[15:38] kizmut Smit: Been trying ways to get region names outside the sim with only global coords.
[15:38] Oskar Linden: interesting
[15:39] kizmut Smit: Within LSL of course)
[15:39] Oskar Linden: of course
[15:39] kizmut Smit: I'm sure it is more likely possible withoutside means.
[15:39] kizmut Smit: ohh edia content.. that reminds me..
[15:39] Oskar Linden: so Ovaltine, what is your spherical rotator thingy?
[15:40] kizmut Smit: I saw a youtube video of someone using interactive flash media in-world.
[15:40] Opensource Obscure: mmm link, kizmut?
[15:40] Oskar Linden: there are some interesting internal projects that we are working on like that
[15:40] Twisted Laws: old dale glass'es viewer had a region.xml file that give you the location to name database, kismut but not in lsl
[15:40] Opensource Obscure: talk us about them, oskar!
[15:40] Oskar Linden: WELL...
[15:41] Oskar Linden: I can't
[15:41] Oskar Linden: but they sure are interesting
[15:41] Oskar Linden: and will be out as soon as they get them to lil and I
[15:41] Oskar Linden: and we give the all clear signal
[15:41] Ima Mechanique: Oskar, you tease
[15:41] Ovaltine Constantine: Oh, Lady Gaga's "The Orbit"
[15:41] Oskar Linden: yes I do
[15:41] Oskar Linden: did you make it ovaltine?
[15:41] Ovaltine Constantine: Yah
[15:42] Oskar Linden: cool
[15:42] Twisted Laws: i gotta go, cya all laters
[15:42] Oskar Linden: later twisted
[15:42] kizmut Smit: bye bye Twisted
[15:42] Opensource Obscure: bye twisted!
[15:42] Ima Mechanique: bye Twisted
[15:42] Oskar Linden: can I get a copy on agni Ovaltine?
[15:42] Lil Linden: adios
[15:42] Oskar Linden bats his eyes suggestively
[15:42] Ovaltine Constantine: Teehee
[15:42] Ovaltine Constantine: Ok
[15:42] Oskar Linden: \o/
[15:43] Opensource Obscure: (( anyone can share or point to a good script for basic sim statistics? ))
[15:44] Oskar Linden: I'd ask Moon Metty
[15:44] Oskar Linden: she always had fancy stuff
[15:45] Oskar Linden: I'd love to see an animation in world tied to when you have your inv window open and are ruffling through it
[15:45] Oskar Linden: it would look like you are digging through a bag
[15:45] Oskar Linden: well, unless you guys want to sit here for 15 more minutes and just chat we can end this early?
[15:45] Oskar Linden: I really have nothing more to chat about LL related
[15:45] kizmut Smit: Mine wouldn't look so social at most times then.
[15:46] Opensource Obscure: did i lose answer to this? > IIRC, we're going to get improved Statistics with regard to server performances. is this complete server-side now?
[15:46] Oskar Linden: I don't know OSO
[15:46] Oskar Linden: can I call you OSO?
[15:46] Opensource Obscure: fine
[15:46] Opensource Obscure: it would be OSOm
[15:46] Ima Mechanique: would be good with a "sorting inventory" specific version. - ruruffles through and chucks stuff occasionally
[15:46] Oskar Linden: :-D
[15:46] Oskar Linden: not OSOb?
[15:47] Opensource Obscure: I meant Awesome sorry
[15:47] kizmut Smit: I got it OSOM
[15:47] Opensource Obscure: ah well babylon
[15:47] kizmut Smit: XD
[15:47] Oskar Linden: I was just trying to truncate your long name
[15:47] Oskar Linden: like 'lil'
[15:48] Oskar Linden: ez to type
[15:48] Oskar Linden: 2 letters
[15:48] Opensource Obscure: that would be awesome = osom
[15:48] Oskar Linden: I write it ossm
[15:48] Oskar Linden: :-D
[15:48] Oskar Linden is having a bad beard day
[15:48] Opensource Obscure: xD
[15:48] Oskar Linden: like a bad hair day
[15:48] Oskar Linden: for beards
[15:48] Ima Mechanique: but lower
[15:48] Oskar Linden: yeah
[15:48] Oskar Linden: a few inches
[15:49] Opensource Obscure: i'm going to do a job meeting tomorrow. i should die now. bye all! thanks for the meeting
[15:49] Oskar Linden: I just can't get it together today
[15:49] Oskar Linden: gonna need some gel
[15:49] Oskar Linden: or beard pomade
[15:49] Opensource Obscure: ahahah
[15:49] Ima Mechanique: bye OS
[15:49] Oskar Linden: later OSOb ;-)
[15:49] Opensource Obscure: byeeye
[15:49] Oskar Linden: I think I am gonna adjourn this meeting
[15:49] Oskar Linden: keep an eye out on AGNI for 1.34 issues
[15:49] Oskar Linden: I'd appreciate it
[15:50] Ima Mechanique: adjourn away, never stops us talking ;-)
[15:50] Oskar Linden: thanks all
[15:50] Lil Linden: anyone wanna see a video of some lindens pwning rockband? :)
[15:50] Oskar Linden: I am gonna AFK here for a minute though
[15:50] Ima Mechanique: oh yeah lil
[15:50] Lil Linden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et8eboYjCqk
[15:50] Oskar Linden: that is a time shift video
[15:50] Psi Merlin: Thanks Oskar, Lil
[15:50] Oskar Linden: all 4 of those people are Lil
[15:50] Oskar Linden: seriosuly
[15:50] Oskar Linden: recorded 4 times
[15:50] Oskar Linden: stitched together
[15:50] Oskar Linden: Lil is AMAZING
[15:50] Lil Linden: interesting
[15:50] Lil Linden: I didn't know I did that
[15:51] Oskar Linden: you were drunk
[15:51] Oskar Linden: again
[15:51] Lil Linden: I am a pretty hot vocalist though
[15:51] Oskar Linden: totally
[15:51] Oskar Linden: ok everyone
[15:51] Oskar Linden: thanks for coming
[15:51] Oskar Linden: :-D
[15:51] Oskar Linden: l8r)
[15:51] Lil Linden: adios guys :)
[15:51] Oskar Linden: /afk
[15:52] Lil Linden is Offline
[15:52] Ima Mechanique: bye Oskar
[15:53] Ima Mechanique: bye Psi
[15:53] Roland Riddler: cya all
[16:01] Psi Merlin waves
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