Community Translation Project/Office Hours/2009 10 13

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[13:05]	:	If we use Second Life or other trademarked images then it is going to be hard to use this logo in other ways
[13:05]	:	hehe ty mono ^^
[13:05]	:	:D
[13:05]	:	Hi Zai : )
[13:05]	:	ellow :-)
[13:05]	:	only one uses the logo (hand) so far
[13:06]	:	So, for example: look up the Linden Department of Public Works group
[13:06]	:	i like the hand ㋡
[13:06]	:	They made a graphic but its "general" so they can use it..mod it as needed etc
[13:06]	:	I think we need to do that and not get tied up in any "restrictions?"
[13:06]	:	Do you think that makes sense?
[13:07]	:	LOL no
[13:07]	:	rofl
[13:07]	:	1 of 7 suggestiosn contains a part of the Second Life Logo - the rest is done completely new
[13:08]	:	not the big hit yet ... but well, we are not (professional) designers
[13:08]	:	I think just taking the "Second Life" part out would make everything easier
[13:08]	:	I like the suggestions so far
[13:08]	:	huh?
[13:08]	:	I think we should go with Community Translators or Community Translation Projects
[13:08]	:	why is ther one with a german flag in it?
[13:09]	:	We are translating for Secpond Life but we may not use the name Second Life in a logo we want to use?
[13:09]	:	the german flag was a sample: the idea was to create a logo for each language group with their own colors
[13:09]	:	If we use it then it will be hard to use the logo in other ways since you cannot modify trademarked stuff
[13:10]	:	i agree lexie
[13:10]	:	So we are just Community Translators for <put here whatever you want>?
[13:10]	:	Example..The Mentors group logo..
[13:11]	:	it says "Second Life" and it really cannot be modified. It is less useful
[13:11]	:	okay, not arguing - but this sounds somehow ridiculous: we are doing translations for free for Second Life/Linden Lab and we may not use the name/brand "Second Life" in a logo? Sound weird to me ... not insiting on the Second life reference
[13:11]	:	no, Im not saying we cannot. Im thinking of how the logo could be the most useful for all group members
[13:12]	:	without copyright and trademark restirctions bla bla bal
[13:12]	:	I can still talk to legal and get some approval on one that has the trademarked items.
[13:12]	:	right Mono
[13:12]	:	I was thinking of PR for the group and how it would be nice to make signs etc. I thought flexibility on the logo would help
[13:13]	:	sure, I understand the no "copyright" etc idea. But why create a logo at all if if does not refer in any way to Second Life?
[13:13]	:	I am not a general translator for everyone. I do it for the Second Life community
[13:13]	:	Well, we would be using it in SL..so I think it is understood
[13:13]	:	Your title says Community Translator as well
[13:14]	:	the Lab can lend us an ct account :D
[13:14]	:	But, I will leave this up to the group. I can message the group and get additional feedback too
[13:15]	:	ok, I stop arguing LOL - I don't care if there is "Second Life" in the logo or not ... but I do not really understand it
[13:15]	:	but that's me :-)
[13:15]	:	the best logo of my opinion is number 4
[13:15]	:	lol
[13:15]	:	its somehow similar to the SL logo
[13:15]	:	and is very simple and with speed inside it too
[13:15]	:	i remind blck'S idea with the foot
[13:16]	:	nr.7
[13:16]	:	I like #4 as well. Also the foot!
[13:16]	:	the others with the people around the globe are from different UN constellations
[13:16]	:	and the book is too dry for me
[13:16]	:	Are you going to put the foot in the jira?
[13:16]	:	Mono
[13:17]	:	i did
[13:17]	:	she did already
[13:17]	:	i wont walk around in SL with round glasses on my nose
[13:17]	:	BlckCobra Shikami sticks her foot in her mouth
[13:17]	:	and books under my arm
[13:17]	:	oh there it is..I had to refresh
[13:17]	:	^^
[13:17]	:	hehe
[13:17]	:	€
[13:18]	:	I will try to rally the group and get more designs and feedback too so we can have a logo soon!
[13:18]	:	good- make it simple anc speedy...
[13:18]	:	and
[13:18]	:	Next week there will be special CT meetings with Ramzi
[13:18]	:	There will be 2 times so more can attend
[13:19]	:	This will relate to new jiras that will be coming and the process to participate
[13:19]	:	ok, so no news and no talk on the viewer 2010 translation strings
[13:19]	:	today
[13:19]	:	Thats next week ㋡
[13:19]	:	ok
[13:19]	:	I will start sending the reminder notices early so all can try to attend
[13:20]	:	It will be a meeting full of information and talk about using an NDA for segments of the upcoming project
[13:20]	:	One will be early in the day and then one at our normal time
[13:21]	:	Do you all know what an NDA is?
[13:21]	:	Non-disclosure Agreement
[13:21]	:	i have some problems....
[13:21]	:	ok
[13:21]	:	ok
[13:21]	:	got it
[13:21]	:	: ))
[13:21]	:	I have filled out so many that I may not say anything anymore ;-)
[13:21]	:	lol
[13:21]	:	funnyy
[13:21]	:	^^
[13:22]	:	Last week I asked for stories of your most successful, meaningful or fun experience as a translators
[13:22]	:	Was anyone able to do that?
[13:22]	:	I think the community would love to hear about that type thing
[13:23]	:	i found zai is my succesful story
[13:23]	:	haha
[13:23]	:	lol
[13:23]	:	Zai is a success story for sure!!
[13:23]	:	: )
[13:23]	:	lol ^_^;
[13:23]	:	honestly being in public is not a good idea as what ui
[13:23]	:	i LEARNED LATELY
[13:23]	:	why?
[13:23]	:	sorry
[13:23]	:	keyboard acted up :-)
[13:24]	:	many hate mails and IMs from people who do not like your answers or do not like to see your name mentioned somewhere
[13:24]	:	ahh ok
[13:24]	:	you can guess it sometimes already from the style of conversation in SL Answers
[13:24]	:	You could also write something and tell me to not say your name
[13:24]	:	I see ..yes
[13:24]	:	I am about to create an alt to continue work in SL Answers
[13:25]	:	I see you and many other volunteers and translators doing great contributions on SL Answers
[13:25]	:	It is not easy to be in the "public". I understand
[13:25]	:	If you can focus on all the good you are doing it helps. And Answers is doing ALOT of good
[13:26]	:	it replaces what support does not perform - sorry to say that ;-)
[13:26]	:	You cannot please everyone ㋡
[13:26]	:	true
[13:27]	:	Well, I think Volunteers have always been there for the community. No matter how great of an official support system there is...Resident to Resident help can just "feel" better?
[13:27]	:	If that makes sense?
[13:27]	:	Thats how I see it : ))
[13:27]	:	this is the sense of a commuinity
[13:27]	:	: ))
[13:27]	:	the lab give us the ability to do it
[13:28]	:	Yes and you take the opportunity and make it have impact
[13:28]	:	BlckCobra Shikami smiles
[13:28]	:	It is hard to even put it in words...the impact
[13:28]	:	Its HUGE
[13:28]	:	㋡
[13:28]	:	I can't really understand the motivation behind writing a hate mail to someone who provides answers in SL™ answers... that just sounds like some people don't know what to do with their free time
[13:28]	:	btw: will we have a preview function soon?
[13:29]	:	some poeple love to stear up trouble and yes, they have nothing to do
[13:29]	:	Zai, I think that's just what can happen in a resource or forum that grows big enough. People DO have spare time lol
[13:29]	:	^^
[13:29]	:	lol
[13:29]	:	wb Zussa
[13:29]	:	sorry :(
[13:29]	:	I am not sure if a preview function is in the upcoming upgrade
[13:29]	:	some sit there with a full gas tank, waiting to light it up :-)
[13:29]	:	I asked for it as well
[13:30]	:	is there a jira for that where we may vote?
[13:30]	:	The formatting in the blog is sometimes hard and you also sometimes don't see your typos. Since posts are mailed out you can correct it later "edit", but teh mail is off
[13:30]	:	I have not seen one yet Zai
[13:30]	:	If you make one..please link me!
[13:30]	:	okido =)
[13:31]	:	hmmm, not sure if a Jira entry is a good idea: might take longer then :-)))
[13:31]	:	hehe
[13:31]	:	okay, I'll shut up ... am a bit PMS today
[13:31]	:	I know the upgrade will mark all entries as questions in the Answer area. We need that for all channels including languages
[13:31]	:	lol Blck! You are bad today ㋡
[13:32]	:	BlckCobra Shikami nods and grins yup!
[13:32]	:	bad in a funny way : )
[13:32]	:	Did any of you have topics you wanted to bring up?
[13:32]	:	yes, but I'll better wait until Ramzi is with us. It refers to the scripting tool tips
[13:32]	:	ok
[13:33]	:	After next weeks meetings things will pick up
[13:33]	:	my quest thru the scripter groups
[13:33]	:	:-)
[13:33]	:	: ))
[13:33]	:	we got some new localization lindens (spanish, italian and portuguese). will they attend a CT meeting? (and most important: did you tell them that they NEED a linden bear to become a proper linden?)
[13:33]	:	next week I may leave teh hospital :-))
[13:33]	:	Zai I think they will attend. They do need a bear!! I will poke them
[13:33]	:	lol
[13:33]	:	LOL
[13:33]	:	ty ^^
[13:34]	:	Hi Radio
[13:34]	:	heyas =)
[13:34]	:	We are just finishing lol
[13:34]	:	sorry, i'm too late again
[13:34]	:	good evening
[13:34]	:	lol
[13:34]	:	yeah and they have to distribute their bear to at least 20 people before they are eligible to bwear the name "Linden"
[13:34]	:	hi radio ㋡
[13:34]	:	: )) There will be a transcript
[13:34]	:	you need a better star ship radio :D
[13:34]	:	^_^
[13:34]	:	ok
[13:34]	:	Zai can you do a transcript? If not I can
[13:34]	:	lol Mono
[13:34]	:	ok, will do =)
[13:35]	:	Thanks : )
[13:35]	:	Hiya Radioactive
[13:35]	:	I think we are done ㋡
[13:35]	:	does someone have the transcript from last week? or chatlog so i can make one? didn't notice if someone got posted...
[13:35]	:	hi Cobra
[13:35]	:	bye Radioactive
[13:35]	:	Thanks for coming today
[13:35]	:	(wasn't there)
[13:35]	:	I posted one Zai
[13:35]	:	LOL
[13:35]	:	ah ok :-) ty
[13:35]	:	See you all soon ㋡
[13:35]	:	thanks, Lexie!
[13:35]	:	Thanks for coming Fisher!
[13:35]	:	Thx Lexie and Fisher ... see you soon
[13:35]	:	see you soon lexie and fisher ㋡
[13:35]	:	see you
[13:36]	:	It was interesting
[13:36]	:	bye Lexie
[13:36]	:	: ))
[13:36]	:	Bye Fisher
[13:36]	:	cyas :-)
[13:36]	:	bye all *poof*
[13:36]	:	Bye for now
[13:36]	:	ser dere senere ㋡
[13:36]	:	cyas :-)
[13:36]	:	massen tp
[13:37]	:	alle flüchten
[13:37]	:	wia sinn sooo lieb
[13:37]	:	eigentlich
[13:37]	:	eigentlich
[13:37]	:	^_^
[13:37]	:	*g*
[13:37]	:	bye mono & Zai
[13:37]	:	bye radio ㋡ ENERGY
[13:37]	:	cu Radio :-) tc!
[13:37]	:	tks
[13:37]	:	ich muss ma eben afk .... kind :S
[13:38]	:	5 minuten
[13:38]	:	oohh oki :-) *knuddel mal von mir
[13:38]	:	oki hehe
 
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