Josephus

Titus Flavius Josephus, generally just Josephus, born Joseph ben Matityahu, (ca. 37 - 100 CELouis Feldman, Steve Mason (1999). Flavius Josephus. Brill Academic Publishers.) was a Romanised Jewish historian who wrote about Israel during New Testament times. He is primarily known because he supposedly considered Jesus to be the Messiah. Josephus produced four major texts: The Jewish War (ca. 75 CE), Antiquities of the Jews (ca. 94 CE), Against Apion (ca. 97), and The Life of Flavius Josephus (ca. 99 CE).
Many Christian apologists cite Josephus to attempt to argue that even the "pagan"/Jewish/etc. Josephus acknowledged Jesus as a savior/miracleworker/etc., and that one should therefore believe in Jesus' divinity. However, citing Josephus as a source on the Jesus argument has numerous flaws. For some reason, these facts almost always come as a surprise to Christians who cite him. It's almost as if they just look up quotes without any understanding of what constitutes valid sources for determining historical events. As a matter of fact, the only writings of Josephus with reference to Jesus have little to do with his alleged divinity. In those writings that do mention Jesus, Josephus seemed to treat him as a human philosopher with a sizable audience, like just about every other prophet responsible for the founding of a religion. Not being a Christian himself (in his day, the Christians comprised a mystical branch of Judaism), it would have been unlikely that Josephus would have even considered the "actual" Jesus as divine.
==Passage 1: the "Testimonium Flavianum"==
In Book 18, Chapter 3, Paragraph 3 of the Antiquities of the Jews (written ca. 93-94 CE), Josephus writes (Whiston’s translation):https://books.google.com/books?id=1AMVAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA613&lpg=PA613&dq=%22Now,+there+was+about+this+time,+Jesus,+a+wise+man,+if+it+be+lawful+to+call+him+a+man,%22#v=onepage
Is the Testimonium Flavianum authentic? There are several reasons to think not, some of which have been pointed out since the 1600s:Eisler, Robert (1929) The Messiah Jesus and John the Baptist according to Flavius Josephus' recently rediscovered 'Capture of Jerusalem' and the other Jewish and Christian sources
#Scholarly consensus: Most scholars admit that at least some parts, if not all, of this paragraph, cannot be authentic,Josephus and Jesus: The Testimonium Flavianum Question, Testimonium Flavianum Early Christian WritingsJesus in Josephus, Richard Carrier. and some are convinced that the entire paragraph is an interpolation inserted by Christians at a later time.The Jesus Forgery: Josephus Untangled, Acharya S/D.M. Murdock.Eusebius of Caesarea forged Testimonium Flavianum, The Historical Integrity of Eusebius of Caesarea. An Alternate Theory of the History of AntiquityOlson, Ken (2013) “A Eusebian Reading of the Testimonium Flavianum.” Eusebius of Caesarea: Tradition and Innovations, eds. Aaron Johnson and Jeremy Schott (Harvard University Press), pp. 97–114.Hopper, Paul (2014) "A Narrative Anomaly in Josephus: Jewish Antiquities xviii:63." Linguistics and Literary Studies: Interfaces, Encounters, Transfers, eds. Monika Fludernik and Daniel Jacob (de Gruyter), pp. 147–169. Duke University Professor E.P. Sanders, a New Testament scholar, argues that the uninterpolated Josephus said that Jesus died by crucifixion.https://books.google.com/books/about/Jesus_and_Judaism.html?id=Ng9JaKKaeCIC Even Christian scholars consider the paragraph to be an overenthusiastic forgery,Bishop Warburton, Quoted by Lardner, Works, Vol. I, chap. iv.: The Rev. Dr. Giles, of the Established Church of England (Christian Records, p. 30): Rev. S. Baring-Gould, in Lost and Hostile Gospels: and even the Catholic Encyclopedia concurs."Flavius Josephus." Catholic Encyclopedia. "Attempts have been made to refute the objections brought against this passage both for internal and external reasons, but the difficulty has not been definitively settled. The passage seems to suffer from repeated interpolations." 
#Context: This paragraph breaks the flow of the chapter. Book 18 (“Containing the interval of 32 years from the banishment of Archelus to the departure from Babylon”) starts with the Roman taxation under Cyrenius in 6 CE and discusses various Jewish sects at the time, including the Essenes and a sect of Judas the Galilean, to which he devotes three times more space than to Jesus; Herod’s building of various cities, the succession of priests and procurators, and so on. Chapter 3 starts with sedition against Pilate, who planned to slaughter all the Jews but changed his mind. Pilate then used sacred money to supply water to Jerusalem. The Jews protested; Pilate sent spies into Jewish ranks with concealed weapons, and there was a great massacre. Then in the middle of all these troubles comes the curiously quiet paragraph about Jesus, followed immediately by: “And about the same time another terrible misfortune confounded the Jews ...” Josephus would not have thought the Christian story to be “another terrible misfortune.” It is only a Christian (someone like Eusebius) who might have considered Jesus to be a Jewish tragedy. Paragraph three can be lifted out of the text with no damage to the chapter; in fact, it flows better without it.Carrier, Richard (2014) On the Historicity of Jesus Sheffield Phoenix Press ISBN 978-1-909697-49-2 pg 336
#Lack of citation: Then there is the issue of how many people do not mention it even when it would have been in their best interests to do so: Justin Martyr (ca. 100 – ca. 165), Theophilus (d. 180), Irenaeus (ca. 120 – ca. 203), Clement of Alexandria (ca. 150 — ca. 215), Origen (ca. 185 – ca. 254), Hippolytus (ca. 170 – ca. 235), Minucius Felix (d. c250), Anatolius (230 – 280), Chrysostom (ca. 347 – 407), Methodius (9th century), and Photius (ca. 820 – 891). There are many places in Origen's Against Celsus where he should have mentioned but was not.Carrier, Richard (2014) On the Historicity of Jesus Sheffield Phoenix Press ISBN 978-1-909697-49-2 pg 334
#Structure: Structurally there is much wrong with the passage.The Testimonium Flavianum, Eusebius, and Consensus (Guest Post) - OlsonThe Testimonium Flavianum (Josephus' Antiquities, XVIII, III, 3) Josephus doesn't explain things as he does in passages of other would-be messiahs.(see Jona Lendering's Messiah (overview) for examples of the amount of detail Josephus gives… even to Athronges, the shepherd of 4 BCE who Josephus says "had been a mere shepherd, not known by anybody" and yet had enough to give us far more details than are seen in the Jesus passage. Things such as what deeds Jesus did and how Jesus won over people are missing.Carrier, Richard (2014) On the Historicity of Jesus Sheffield Phoenix Press ISBN 978-1-909697-49-2 pg 334
#Similarity to the Bible: There is a 19-point unique correspondence between this passage and Luke's Emmaus account.Goldberg, Gary J. (1995) "The Coincidences of the Emmaus Narrative of Luke and the Testimonium of Josephus" The Journal for the Study of the Pseudepigrapha 13 pp. 59-77Carrier, Richard (2014) On the Historicity of Jesus Sheffield Phoenix Press ISBN 978-1-909697-49-2 pg 333
#"Christ": The term "Christ" only appears in the Testimonium Flavianum and in a later passage regarding James “brother of Jesus” (see below). But the purpose of the work was to promote Vespasian as the Jewish Messiah (i.e., 'Christ'), so why would Josephus, a messianic Jew, use the term only here? Moreover, the Greek word used here is the same as in the Old Testament, but to Josephus' Roman audience it would mean 'the ointment' rather than 'anointed one', resulting in many a Roman scratching their head in befuddlement.The Anointed One, Or The Ointment? (internet archive)
#Location: Josephus was in Rome from 64 to 66 CE to petition emperor Nero for the release of some Jewish priests that Gessius Florus sent there in chains.When Gessius Florus sent some priests that Josephus knew in chains to Rome (64 CE), he followed to petition the emperor [Nero] to release them. The emperor's consort, Poppea, introduced the 26 year old Jewish aristocrat to the imperial court & supported his cause. This successful mission left Josephus favorably impressed by the grandeur & power of Rome & with a first-hand familiarity with imperial circles that few of his contemporary Jews could match. By the time he returned to Jerusalem, however, the Jewish revolt had already begun (in 66 CE). (Josephus [37-ca 100 CE]) Josephus makes no mention of the further misfortune of Jesus' followers that Tacitus and Suetonius record. If the Testimonium Flavianum was genuine in any way, Josephus certainly would have mentioned the further misfortune of Jesus' followers under Nero, since he was right there in Rome for two years when it was supposedly going on. So either the Testimonium Flavianum is a forgery, or the Tacitus and Suetonius accounts are urban myth — both sets of accounts cannot be true.
==Passage 2: the "Jamesian Reference"==
The second, and lesser-known, supposed reference in Josephus is to James the brother of Jesus. In Book 20, Chapter 9, Section 1 of the Antiquities, Josephus writes:https://books.google.com/books?id=DT5ndgdCb-MC&pg=PA494&lpg=PA494&dq=%22Festus+was+now+dead,+and+Albinus+was+put+upon+the+road;+so%22#v=onepage&q=%22Festus%20was%20now%20dead%2C%20and%20Albinus%20was%20put%20upon%20the%20road%3B%20so%22&f=false
Though there are good reasons to think this too is not Josephus' original text:
#Again, Josephus would have provided more details for the Gentile readership. For example, just what was meant by "Christ". If Josephus had mentioned "Christ" before, he would have referenced it as he does the Sadducees several times in this work.Carrier, Richard (2014) On the Historicity of Jesus Sheffield Phoenix Press ISBN 978-1-909697-49-2 pg 339
#After reading the rest of the text of this passage we find that the Jews were so angry about the stoning of James that they demanded that King Agrippa fire Ananus. Why would the Jews be angered over the killing of a Christian, since Christians were seen as heathens by the Jews?Carrier, Richard (2014) On the Historicity of Jesus Sheffield Phoenix Press ISBN 978-1-909697-49-2 pg 339Rook Hawkins February 4, 2008 Josephus: What's the Deal?''
#The end of the paragraph seems to identify the Jesus described within as Jesus the son of Damneus and clearly states that this Jesus was made high priest by Agrippa.
#The passage doesn't agree with any other account of James the Just and Acts make no mention of the event at all.Carrier, Richard (2014) On the Historicity of Jesus Sheffield Phoenix Press ISBN 978-1-909697-49-2 pg 340-341
#In Against Celsus 1.47, states "this writer" (Josephus)… "in seeking after the cause of the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple"… "says nevertheless"… "that these disasters happened to the Jews as a punishment for the death of James the Just, who was a brother of Jesus (called Christ)". This point is repeated in Against Celsus 2.13 where Origen states "But at that time there were no armies around Jerusalem, encompassing and enclosing and besieging it; for the siege began in the reign of Nero, and lasted till the government of Vespasian, whose son Titus destroyed Jerusalem, on account, as Josephus says, of James the Just, the brother of Jesus who was called Christ, but in reality, as the truth makes dear, on account of Jesus Christ the Son of God." Note that the Josephus passage above does NOT connect the death of this James with the destruction of Jerusalem, the Temple, or any other disaster despite Origen stating twice that the passage he is referring to does. 
#Finally, and most importantly the James of Josephus died ca. 62 CE by just stoning while Hegesippus, Clement of Alexandria, Eusebius of Caesarea, and Early Christian tradition all had James the Just dying ca. 70 CE by being thrown from a battlement, stoned, and finally clubbed to death by passing laundrymen.Eddy, Paul R. and Boyd, Gregory A. (2007) The Jesus Legend: A Case for the Historical Reliability of the Synoptic Jesus Tradition. Baker Academic, pg 189 In fact, Eusebius of Caesarea in his Church History, Book III, ch. 11 clearly writes "After the martyrdom of James and the conquest of Jerusalem which immediately followed..." but there are seven years and four High PriestsJoshua ben Damneus (i.e., Jesus son of Damneus) (63); Joshua ben Gamaliel (63-64); Mattathias ben Theophilus (65-66); and Phannias ben Samuel (67-70) between these two events if the Josephus passage is genuine so either we have one of the wonkiest definitions of "immediately followed" in the history of the world or these are two different James and the "him called Christ" phrase was added to make the connection. The later interpretation is supported by Rufinus of Aquileia in the 4th century who states James the Lord's brother was informed of the death of Peter (64 CE or 67 CE ie after the James in Josephus was dead and gone)."The epistle in which the same Clement, writing to James the Lord's brother, informs him of the death of Peter, and that he had left him his successor in his chair and teaching..." Recognitions (Preface)
As late as 1846 the phrasing was "Jesus, who was Christ"John Sundins Stamp, John Foxe, William Harris Rule (1846) Martyrologia; or, Records of religious persecution pg 186 so there may be some translational mucking around going on. In any case, the "him called Christ" makes most sense as a margin note by a later scribe copying the text, inserted by error in a paragraph about Jesus son of Damneus.Richard Carrier. "Origen, Eusebius, and the Accidental Interpolation in Josephus, Jewish Antiquities 20.200.” Journal of Early Christian Studies 20.4 (Winter 2012).
Drews in The Witness To The Historicity of Jesus stated that, even if the passage was entirely genuine, "brother" could have just meant the James being referred to belonged to a sect that venerated a Messiah called Jesus.Drews, Arthur (1912) The Witness To The Historicity of Jesus, page 9 (London: Watts & Co., 1912) Furthermore since "christ" means the same in Greek that "messiah" does in Hebrew ("the anointed one") it could be used in reference to the anointment of Jesus, son of Damneus as high priest.
However, Drews also stated "in the sixteenth century Vossius had a manuscript of the text of Josephus in which there was not a word about Jesus"Drews, Arthur (1912) The Witness To The Historicity of Jesus, page 9 (London: Watts & Co., 1912) which taken literally means as late as 1600 there was a Josephus manuscript with no reference to Jesus anywhere in it. For a contrasting view, see point 5 above, where Origen seems to have made a reference to the quote circa 250 CE. 
The problem with this reference to Vossius' Josephus is that "According to the author of Christian Mythology Unveiled ("CMU"), this Vossius mentioned by a number of writers as having possessed a copy of Josephus's Antiquities lacking the TF is "I. Vossius," whose works appeared in Latin. Unfortunately, none of these writers includes a citation as to where exactly the assertion may be found in Vossius's works. Moreover, the Vossius in question seems to be Gerardus, rather than his son, Isaac, who was born in the seventeenth century."D.M. Murdock (2004) Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled
However, "The letters i and j: In the Roman alphabet, i and j were two forms of the same letter, but in the 16th and 17th centuries, i was used instead of j, both initially and medially, either vowel or consonant. As a consonant, the letter was pronounced as we pronounce j, as in jury, but written "iury".Hill, Ronald A. "Interpreting the Symbols and Abbreviations inSeventeenth Century English and American Documents" So the "I. Vossius" could have been the father of Gerardus Vossius, Johannes Vossius. Sadly, material this old is full of partial references (if they exist at all) so little is known about where the material they cite originally came from.
It should be noted that our youngest copy of Josephus in the original Greek Antiquities is from the 9th to 10th century with the majority being in the 11th to 16thPearse, Roger .(2002) Josephus: the Main Manuscripts of "Antiquities"
Carrier points out "Later Christian legend (first attested to only late in the second century, a whole lifetime or two after Acts was written) replaced this James, son of Alphaeus with James 'the brother of the Lord', but Luke clearly has no knowledge of this connection (nor, we must conclude did any source he may have had) Nor do any of the other Gospels show any awareness that any brother of Jesus ever had a role in the church at all, much less as a leader. Mark had already suggested none of Jesus family entered the church, as he has effectively disowned them (-34 (repeated in -50 and -21; echoed directly in and -27 See Chapter 10 (§4)."Carrier, Richard (2014) On the Historicity of Jesus Sheffield Phoenix Press ISBN 978-1-909697-49-2 pg 373
== Passage 3: John the Baptist passage ==
John the Baptist, a figure in the New Testament, is briefly mentioned.The Antiquities of the Jews, Book XVIII, Chapter 5, paragraph 2.
Scholars have noted many inconsistencies in the passage about John the Baptist.Allen, N.P.L. (2015) Clarifying the Scope of Pre-Fifth-Century C.E. Christian Interpolation in Josephus’ Antiquitates Judaicae (c. 94 C.E.). pp. 361–362. Unpublished Philosophiae Doctor thesis, Potchefstroom: North-West University. Gregory L. Doudna argues that the passage actually refers to and is the result of a compilation error.
==Additional problems==
Carrier provides a summation of works that go into some (though not all) of the problems below.Carrier, Richard (15 Feb 2017) Josephus on Jesus? Why You Can’t Cite Opinions Before 2014
===Time===
Supposedly, Josephus was the earliest non-Christian to write of the life of Jesus. Josephus' birth in 37 CE, well after the alleged crucifixion of Jesus which could have been no later than 36 CE by Gospels, means he could not have been an eyewitness. Being able to write with firsthand knowledge about events before he was born is a miracle that would potentially warrant worshiping Josephus instead of Jesus.
Moreover, Josephus wrote his Antiquities in 93 CE, even later than the first gospels, a minimum of 58 years or nearly three generations after Jesus was supposedly crucified. Worse, our oldest copy in Greek is from the 11th century and the suspected tampering is thought to have occurred no later than the 4th century...which predates our oldest copy...which is in Latin.
Altogether, Josephus' descriptions could not be taken as accurate, even discounting other problems.
===Religion===
Josephus was an orthodox Jew; if he was a closet Christian and believed in Jesus Christ, there's no evidence of it.
In fact, Josephus says throughout his writings that he believes the Roman emperor was the Jewish Messiah and probably believed in the emperor's explicit claim to deity.
===Falsified works===
Literary critic Harold Bloom has suggested — even assuming the passages are genuine — that in light of many other cases of Josephus falsifying evidence in his works, Josephus's judgement of Jesus is motivated entirely by his own politics and admires Jesus on account of the political actions of his followers: James and John the Baptist (whom he praises for their resistance of the rise of Pharisaic Judaism).Bloom, Harold (2005) Jesus and Yahweh: The Names Divine Riverhead ISBN-13: 978-1573223225
===Length and a host of holy men===
Josephus gives far more space and/or detail to the following would-be 'Messiahs'. 'Sons of Man', 'the Righ­teous Ones', and 'the Elect [or Chosen] Ones' (i.e. "christs") that were showing up all over first century CE PalestineJewish Antiquities 17.269-270 than to Jesus (who got a measly one (maybe two) paragraphs):
* Simon of Peraea (d 4 BCE).
* Judas, son of Hezekiah (4 BCE).
* Matthias, son of Margalothus (during the time of Herod the Great) - thought by some to be the "Theudas" referenced in Acts 5.
* Athronges (c 3 CE) - who "had been a mere shepherd, not known by anybody." 
* Judas of Galilee (6 CE).
* The Samaritan prophet (36 CE) killed by Pontius Pilate.
* Theudas the magician (between 44 and 46 CE).
* Egyptian Jew Messiah (between 52 and 58 CE). Supposedly led an army of 30,000 people in an attempt to take Jerusalem by force which the Romans drove back, killing 400 and capturing 200. According to Josephus he "came out of Egypt to Jerusalem" and "He advised the crowd to go along with him to the Mount of Olives, as it was called, which lay over against the city, and at the distance of a kilometer." Suggested to be the basis for the Gospel Jesus by Lena Einhorn. Lena Einhorn, PhD (Nov.17-20, 2012) Jesus and the "Egyptian Prophet" Society of Biblical Literature Annual MeetingJesus–Rebel a out of time? Lena Einhorn (Youtube)
* An anonymous prophet (59 CE).
* Menahem, the son of Judas the Galilean (66 CE).
* Jesus ben Ananias [Ananus] (66-70 CE). Suggested by Carrier as being the raw template for the Passover section of "Mark"
* Menahem ben Judah (sometime between 66-73 CE).
* John of Giscala (d c70 CE).appears periodically in Book IV, V, and VII of The Jewish War.
* Simon bar Giora (69-70 CE) 
* Jonathan, the weaver (73 CE) 
If Josephus really thought Jesus was the Messiah, he would almost certainly have written far more on him. Most of the people above get far more detail than the short, awkward passages on Jesus that don't quite fit the flow of the section. In fact, Athronges, who Josephus states was "not known by any body", gets a paragraph nearly four times longer than that for Jesus. Furthermore, Origen claims that a man named Dositheus pretended to be the Christ.Contra Celsum," i. 57, vi. 11; in Matth. Comm. ser. xxxiii.; "Homil." xxv. in Lucam; "De Principiis," iv. 17. but the only Dositheus Josephus mentions lived in the time of Herod the Great some time before 30 BCE , and there is nothing in the passage about him even being called a Christ.
===Ned Ludd and John Frum comparison===
Ned Ludd and John Frum stand as two examples of how even if both Josephus passages as we have them now were totally genuine are not evidence for a historical Gospel Jesus. 
Ned Ludd was the supposed founder of the Luddites (a sizable movement in 1811-1816) which had several orders and documents signed by "King Ludd" or "General Ludd" who in 1779 supposedly smashed two knitting frames in a "fit of passion",Alsen, Eberhard (2000) New Romanticism: American Fiction, Routledge, ISBN 978-0-8153-3548-1, p. 43George Gordon Lord Byron (2002) The Works of Lord Byron. Letters and Journals, Adamant Media Corporation, ISBN 978-1-4021-7225-0, p. 97 yet no record of Ned Ludd's actions appears anywhere before 1811.
John Frum is an even more interesting example, as there was a 1952 professional academic paper done on the John Frum cargo cult.Guiart, Jean (1952) "John Frum Movement in Tanna" Oceania Vol 22 No 3 pg 165-177 Even just 11 years after the cult's existence became known to the local authorities, there were many stories about John Frum; some say it was the name of some supernatural being coopted by a native named Manehivi, others said it was a native who "was still at liberty"; some were saying "John Frum, alias Karaperamun, is always the god of Mount Tukosmoru, which will shelter the planes, then the soldiers.", while others said John Frum was a man. Moreover the article contains one of the few surviving pieces of evidence that the John Frum cult could go clear back to the 1910s with the statement in a 1949 letter that "The origin of the movement or the cause started more than thirty years ago."
Sometime in the late 1950s to early 1960s, a splinter faction calling itself The Prince Philip Movement gave John Frum an actual flesh and blood biological brother: Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh. One problem: Prince Philip only had sisters. By that time the various natives who had used the name "John Frum" from 1940-47 were not in the oral traditions other then pretenders or prophets and John Frum effectively became a white World War II serviceman (sometimes being in the Navy) for the mainstream version of the cult.
John Frum is one of the best documented example of how mythology around a supposed founder can form. If Manehivi was the "real" John Frum, then he was effectively wiped from oral tradition almost immediately and replaced by a person who for all practical terms didn't exist in the space of perhaps 15 years. And if that can happen in the space of just over a decade, then what about the some half-century that separate Josephus from Jesus, especially given the uncharacteristic brevity of the passages?
===Lack of other mentions of Christians===
====Three sects====
 (KJV), written approx. 80-130 CE,"Book of Acts of the Apostles" Early Christian Writings recalls:
At the same time, the was supposedly going on. (KJV) recalls the Church leaders speaking of the miracles that had occurred:
If Christianity was undergoing an explosive growth, then surely Josephus, a local and aspiring historian, would have noticed. However, Josephus in his The Life Of Flavius Josephus wrote:The Life Of Flavius JosephusHumphreys, Kenneth (2004) "Non-Christian Testimony for Jesus?"
In his Antiquities, Josephus does mention a fourth sect of Jewish philosophy. However, it's unrelated to Christianity. In Antiquities 18.[1.1-6].1-25, Josephus writes:Antiquities of the Jews - Book XVIII
Later, in Antiquities 13.[5.9].171-173, Josephus repeats the same message.http://sacred-texts.com/jud/josephus/ant-13.htm Antiquities of the Jews - Book XIII, Chapter 5 paragraph 9
Josephus had ample opportunity to mention the Christians, if they were a sizeable movement, and to talk about their leader, as he did with the fourth sect. Instead, Josephus is silent on any additional sects.
====Banus====
Some commentators have alleged that Josephus lived with a Banus, who "might well be a follower of John the Baptist". The relevant passage of Life reads:
The only evidence that Banus might be a follower of John the Baptist is (a) his life in the wilderness (b) his frequent bathing. Many hermits exist and existed who live in the wilderness; while bathing might be odd, it's not exactly something that only religious followers of John the Baptist do.
==Ignoring Josephus to make things fit the Gospels==
Josephus gets the fair weather friend treatment by some triumphal historical Jesus supporters to allow what are at the end of the day nonsensical theories to explain the Matthew and Luke "problem".
Josephus gives three key points regarding Herod the Great: when he came to power,Turner, Gary H () When was Jesus born?Antiquities XIV 14:5Antiquities XIV 13:10 how long Herod had ruled when the Battle of Actium happened (September 2nd, 31 BC),"At this time it was that the fight happened at Actium, between Octavius Caesar and Anthony in the seventh year of the reign of Herod; and then it was also that there was an earthquake in Judea, such a one as had not happened at any other time." - Antiquities XV 5:2 and finally how long Herod had reigned and been declared king when he finally died."When he had done those things, he (Herod) died, the fifth day after he had caused Antipater to be slain; having reigned, since he procured Antigonus to be slain, thirty-four years; but since he had been declared king by the Romans, thirty-seven." - Antiquities XVII 8:1 Josephus also states that Herod’s son and successor Archelaus was deposed by Caesar in the tenth year of his reign,Josephus, Antiquities 17.13.2 which is identified 759 AUC,Dio Cassius, Roman History 55.27.6 which, because there is no year zero works out to be 5/6 CE.
These points result in one and only one year for Herod the Great's death: 4 BCE. Despite this, claims that he died in 1 BCE come up. Yes, there are a few hiccups in what Josephus relates, but the majority of the information points to 4 BCE, and other years require a good deal of special pleading to work."Herod’s Death, Jesus’ Birth and a Lunar Eclipse" Bible History Daily
==See also==
*Evidence for the historical existence of Jesus Christ
*Lying for Jesus
*Tacitus
*Pliny the Younger
*Suetonius
*Thallus
*Phlegon
*Lucian
*Hadrian
*Serapion
*John the Baptist (actually mentioned by Josephus)
*Pages about other men called "Joseph"
==External links==
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*Works of Josephus on Wikisource
*Allen, Nicholas Peter Legh (October 2014) Clarifying the Scope of Pre-5th Century C.E. Christian Interpolation in Josephus’ Antiquitates Judaica (c. 94 C.E.). Doctor's Theseus North-West University
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