Open Development User Group/Archive/2011-02-09

13:02 	Office Orb  	mail_to set to oz@lindenlab.com
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  	Jonathan  	oz, you are rotating it with 1 script?
  	  	or did you use 2 prims?
  	Oz Linden  	1 script in an invisible root at the center
  	  	it's actually 16 linked prims
13:03 	Jonathan  	I would be curious to see that 1 script rotation code for 2 axis
  	  	ok, meeting time
  	Oz Linden  	it's full perm... have a look
  	  	Our agenda is quite full:
  	  	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Development_User_Group#Agenda
13:04 	  	VWR-24487
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24487
VWR-24487 llurlentry_stub.cpp:196: error: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*'
  	Oz Linden  	I meant to talk w/ Q about this before the meeting, but that fell through the cracks
  	  	We will get a fix for this done pretty soon one way or another
  	Cummere Mayo  	dont mind me im snapshotting my ui so i can show something to fredrik..
13:05 	Oz Linden  	we're currently planning our hackathon for getting everything converted to VS 2010, which will want this
  	  	it's tentatively scheduled for the end of next week, I believe
  	Jonathan  	Are we invited?
  	Oz Linden  	I will be asking around to see if we can figure out how open devs can contribute
13:06 	  	if nothing else, the repos for all the open stuff we'll be working on will be in public
  	  	so you'll be able to see and test what we're doing
  	  	I"ll try to do better than that, though.
  	  	stay tuned
13:07 	  	If it's really bothering people, we could commit the temporary fix we have now, but I am going to want to replace it
  	  	I'll leave that item on our agenda for next time too
13:08 	  	next..... OPEN-1 - perhaps Jonathan can give us his view of the status of that
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1
OPEN-1 autobuild does not support use with Visual Studio Express
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	so will this mean going forward everyone will need to sue VS 2010?
  	  	use*
  	Oz Linden  	yes, tank
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	ok thx
  	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη  	starting with 2.6 right?
13:09 	Oz Linden  	right
  	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη  	kk
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	so libs wont be affected?
  	Oz Linden  	well, all of you that work on windows :-)
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	well yeah :P
  	Oz Linden  	all libs too
  	  	not a small job
  	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη  	ouch
13:10 	  	so as soon as you have the libs changed, we'll need to be using 2010 on any revision?
  	Oz Linden  	Jonathan ... where do we stand w/ VS Express ?
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	will the old libs be in place for a while to give people time to transision over?
  	Oz Linden  	the old downloads will still be there for old versions
  	Jonathan  	My version runs, with that hack of moving the build directory
  	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη  	oh good ok
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	ok thatll work then, thx
  	Jonathan  	I would like to hear from other people about how theirs runs
13:11 	  	WOlfpup and Nickyp
  	Oz Linden  	so the problem there is that the fact that indra is no longer in the tree above the executable means that it can't find its settings file, right?
  	Jonathan  	yes
  	  	not the saved settings, but the initial ones
  	Oz Linden  	I assume that the Pro users don't have this and can run the exe where it is built?
13:12 	Jonathan  	I know wolfpup uses pro, dunno about Nickyp
  	Oz Linden  	no takers...
  	  	ok, well, we'll want to sort that out, but I suspect that it'll be pretty easy
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	hasnt used 2010 yet, so doesnt know how its different
  	Jonathan  	why the compiler would make a difference is a mystery
13:13 	  	Tank, this is about autobuild
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	ahh ok
  	Oz Linden  	it may be that some command is not conditionalized correctly when setting up those files
  	Robin Cornelius  	maybe but as we don't have the build inside indra/ anymore having code in the viewer that tests for that is asking for bugs
  	Jonathan  	Robin, can you autobuild on Express as another test case?
  	Oz Linden  	yes, clearly we'll want to change that
  	Robin Cornelius  	i've only got express in 2005/2010 versions
13:14 	Oz Linden  	05 for now, please
  	Robin Cornelius  	and yes i can run some other tests
  	Oz Linden  	thanks
  	Jonathan  	Oz, did you update the source with the /u (?) xml fix
  	Oz Linden  	not yet, but I'll do that after this meeting
  	  	next issue is OPEN-4
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4
OPEN-4 As an Open Source Developer, I would like to use Fmod in the autobuild system if i have the needed files already
13:15 	Oz Linden  	the trick here is that we need at least new instructions on where to put the fmod files under the build tree
  	Jonathan  	that is just small change, right?
13:16 	Oz Linden  	ideally, I'd like to go one better and do an autobuild re-package project so that you can check that out, build it, and you'll have a local archive that your viewer build can use
  	Robin Cornelius  	at one point (snowglobe 1.x) we had an optinon were we could pass a var with FMOD_SDK_DIR and it just used that to find all the bits it needed
  	Merovingian  	interesting, is that failing for all platforms?
13:17 	  	FMOD logic had to be changed quite a bit to it to require being used only in private mode
  	  	thinks he should look into that one
  	Oz Linden  	would _love_ your help, Merov - let's talk after this
13:18 	Merovingian  	is there something with having "Wolf" in your name and being unable to spell?
  	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη  	I lol'd
  	Merovingian  	has to parse comments twice to make sense of them
  	Oz Linden  	we've got a lot of *wolf* names on this project... not sure what that tells us...
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	oh man, theres to meny wolves out there...
13:19 	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη  	we have a lot of 'wolfs' on the phoenix project too >.>
  	  	they're taking over
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	I even saw a "Wolf Linden" on jira today
  	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη  	haha
  	Oz Linden  	I once worked for a 12 person company, 5 of whom were named Dave....
  	  	anyway....
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	lol
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	yay
  	Jonathan  	Wolf Linden is part of snowstorm
  	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη  	lol
13:20 	Oz Linden  	once open-1 and open-4 have at least reasonable workarounds, we'll merge autobuild
  	Tonya Souther  	knows a David Trout who solved that problem: he goes by "Fish".
  	Oz Linden  	Next major item
13:21 	  	Cummere did a pass through VWR and came up with a whole bunch of build-related issues as candidates to be moved to OPEN
  	  	round of applause for Cummere....
  	Kitty Barnett  	yay!
  	Jonathan  	Hoooo!
13:22 	Oz Linden  	So... we're going to zoom through the list and decide if we still care about each issue, and if so how much and move to OPEN if it's enough
  	Merovingian  	we moved some from SNOW too (still with Cummere's help)
  	Oz Linden  	otherwise, we'll just close 'em and forget 'em
  	Cummere Mayo  	im not very confident about this list ><
  	Oz Linden  	that's ok... it's having a list that's useful
  	  	first vwr-3621
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3621
VWR-3621 Parser Stack Depth Exceeded needs its own error message.
13:23 	Cummere Mayo  	case in point
  	Oz Linden  	If I'm not mistaken this is an LSL issue?
  	Robin Cornelius  	LSL compile is server side now
  	Merovingian  	right, not an OPEN issue then
  	Oz Linden  	nor VWR
13:24 	Merovingian  	which project should that be moved to?
  	Cummere Mayo  	sorry i have a hard time telling the differance between building and scripting sometimes
  	  	hence part of why im very not sure of the list
  	Oz Linden  	SVC, I guess - that will get it on their triage
  	Robin Cornelius  	SVC i would say
  	Oz Linden  	no problem
  	  	either way it'll be out of our bucket
  	Merovingian  	volunteer to do the JIRA move
  	Oz Linden  	go
  	  	vwr-9557
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9557
VWR-9557 a standalone build fails on Fedora with NVIDIA graphics driver: 'glActiveTextureARB' was not declared in this scope
13:25 	Cummere Mayo  	i was told this is a lib issue
  	Oz Linden  	but there seems to be a patch...
13:26 	  	this overlaps with the headers issue we were discussing earlier, Merov
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	glh_linear?
  	Oz Linden  	I'd say move it to OPEN, change to Open status
  	  	right
13:27 	Robin Cornelius  	the gl.h headers are distro supplied and if you use the nvidia supplied GL header you get the above build bug
  	Merovingian  	there's a related gl issue
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	ah, so a different issue form the glh_linear one
  	  	*from
13:28 	Merovingian  	digs for the JIRA
  	Oz Linden  	maybe we need to make our package that installs the nvidia headers detect if the system already has better ones?
  	Robin Cornelius  	i though the GL headers came with the GLX you had installed? you don't just ship them around
  	Merovingian  	OPEN-14
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-14
OPEN-14 we really need to decide how to handle glh/glh_linear.h for standalone cases
13:29 	Robin Cornelius  	glh_linear is different
  	  	thats a standalone file that has no home anywhere
  	Oz Linden  	bring this one in and let's move on
13:30 	Merovingian  	moves VWR-9557 to OPEN
  	Oz Linden  	vwr-13793
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13793
VWR-13793 Full support for Linux 64-bit
  	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη  	our users have been screaming for this one ^
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	ya
  	Oz Linden  	well, this isn't going to happen soon, I'm sorry to say
  	Tonya Souther  	keep it on the radar?
  	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη  	that's what I keep saying to them lol
  	Oz Linden  	I'm ok with importing it, and with taking patches to make it happen from the community though
13:31 	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	64bit support for all OSs at some point tin eh future would be nice
  	Cummere Mayo  	shrugs...
  	Oz Linden  	yes... would be nice....
  	Cummere Mayo  	I was told to make a list thats what i did... i wasnt told to weed out pipedreams :P
  	Tonya Souther  	I'm happy to let the Linux folks find the 64-bitness issues before I tackle OS X.
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	but i agree theres more pressing things to work on at this time
  	Oz Linden  	there are really only ever 3 priorities: 1) what I'm doing now, 2) what I'll do next, 3) what I probably won't get to
13:32 	Cummere Mayo  	32 bit mostly works okay on 64 bit os...
  	Robin Cornelius  	64 bit is not that broken, many of us have been doing linux 64 bit builds for years so the code itsself is in generaly ok shape for that
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	One of the problems is that 32bit viewer can't use 64bit GStreamer.
  	Oz Linden  	ok vwr-19643
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-19643
VWR-19643 linux libndofdev incompatible to kernel >=2.6.33 (was: spacenavigator does not wok under x.org 1.8.0, udev and fedora 13)
  	Oz Linden  	ducks
  	Robin Cornelius  	there was a patch for libndofdev for new kernels
  	Oz Linden  	this has been on my plate forever... mea culpa
  	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη  	lol
13:33 	Oz Linden  	I need to repackage and build the new version...
  	  	just keeps not makeing it to #1
  	  	please import it, Merov
  	  	leave it assigned to me
  	  	vwr-20466
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20466
VWR-20466 viewer-external uuid.lib: debugging information corrupt
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	don't put this issue on some stack the, ... better a FIFO
  	  	*then
13:34 	Merovingian  	moves VWR-19643 to OPEN
  	JayR Cela  	my opinion / SL / QuickTime / Linux / do not play well together - PERIOD !!!!!! / is a waste of time
  	Robin Cornelius  	uuid.lib corrupt is caused my mixing your SDKs up
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	QuickTime isn't used on Linux, JayR
13:35 	Robin Cornelius  	i suspect its a win 7 user on VC2005 using SDK 7.x
  	Oz Linden  	the reporter was you, Robin...
13:36 	Robin Cornelius  	forgot i filed that one
  	Oz Linden  	Can we just close this on the assumption that it either : was and incorrect setup, or: will be fixed by 2010 move?
  	JayR Cela  	@(br/ no quicktime does work with linux - watch Hulu.com on a regular basis / Quicktime and SL media webkit does not
  	Robin Cornelius  	its a build tool chain set up issue, so close please
  	Oz Linden  	thank you
13:37 	JayR Cela  	oops sorry my mistake Hulu uses flash
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	I mean, the Linux viewer doesn't use QuickTime to view mediea streams.
  	Robin Cornelius  	no wonder these issues are all very familar
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	It uses GSTreamer instead.
  	Oz Linden  	vwr-20994
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20994
VWR-20994 Add a 'printbuilddirs' command to develop.py
  	Oz Linden  	I believe that autobuild essentially already has this, and it replaces develop.py
13:38 	Cummere Mayo  	hmm robin i think for the next round im just gonna look for issues created by you >.>
  	JayR Cela  	well Quicktime is as old as dirt / time to dump it / HTML5 should be seriously looked at
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	doesnt webkit already support html5?
  	  	or partially at least
  	Oz Linden  	focus, people....
13:39 	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	sorry
  	Oz Linden  	I'd say close 20994
  	Merovingian  	+1
  	Oz Linden  	won't finish because we're moving to autobuild
  	  	vwr-23304
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23304
VWR-23304 Allow choosing between system headers/libraries and LL supplied ones per package
13:40 	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	should go to OPEN
  	Oz Linden  	but I think it may be the same as open-6
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-6
OPEN-6 Add support to autobuild for local archives as dependencies and as targets
  	Oz Linden  	so move it, but link it to that one as related?
13:41 	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	let me read OPEN-6
  	Oz Linden  	we can take a deeper look when we actually do them
  	Merovingian  	resolve as dupe rather, no?
  	Oz Linden  	maybe
13:42 	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	I don't quite understand what OPEN-6 is asking for, so I can't tell whether it's the same
  	Oz Linden  	one thing I don't want to do is proliferate command line switches more than we really need
  	  	it's a little silly
13:43 	  	the package/dependency mechanism only supports getting files remotely
  	  	it supports http and scp urls, but not file urls
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	ah
  	Oz Linden  	almost certainly a really easy fix if anyone wants to flex some python muscles
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	but how would I choose how to fulfil a dependency?
13:44 	Oz Linden  	link them and let's move on
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	ok
  	Merovingian  	does the move and link
  	Oz Linden  	you change your autobuild.xml file (or copy it to a temp and use that so that you don't accidentally check it in)
  	  	vwr-23465
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23465
VWR-23465 !standalone build error due to missing libfreetype.so. libpangoft2-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Realloc'
13:45 	Oz Linden  	Gentoo specific?
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	yes
13:46 	Oz Linden  	anyone know if it's still a problem?
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	or rather, doesn't occur on debian-like systems
  	  	dunno if Gentoo is the only affected one
  	Tonya Souther  	Techwolf might, Oz, dunno anyone else. But all the world is not Ubuntu, or even Debian.
  	Oz Linden  	right....
  	Robin Cornelius  	gentoo might use different compile flags for freetype?
13:47 	Oz Linden  	import it and assign back to techwolf ... the sources for those builds should soon be in public repos if they are not already
  	  	he can work out the upgrade/fix
  	  	and then we'll take it in
13:48 	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	dunno if it's that easy
  	Oz Linden  	VWR-23706
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23706
VWR-23706 current snowstorm building script terminated due to "collect2: ld terminated with signal 9 [Killed] "
13:49 	Oz Linden  	can anyone tell what this is?
  	Tonya Souther  	Looks like a hang that he sent a kill to.
  	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη  	never seen that error
  	Tonya Souther  	Be nice if he'd actually included some description.
  	Oz Linden  	close it
  	  	not reproducible
13:50 	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	-DSERVER:BOOL=OFF ... wtf?
  	Oz Linden  	VWR-23826
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23826
VWR-23826 LLDir integration test fails with "failed to write to test file '/tmp/getNextFileInDir02//file1.abc'"
13:51 	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	I think you guys fixed that one at some point.
  	Oz Linden  	that test has been cleaned up....
  	  	would you take that one and either repro on current builds or close it, please, B?
  	Merovingian  	I think so, resolved as "Fixed"?
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	I think so
  	Oz Linden  	ok... let's do that then
13:52 	  	VWR-23961
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23961
VWR-23961 Add fmodex in FindFMOD cmake module
  	Robin Cornelius  	i think i still have a failing test, could be this one, i'll reopen if it is so
  	Merovingian  	Another FMOD one...
  	Robin Cornelius  	yea merge/dup as its all the same work required to solve anyway
13:53 	Oz Linden  	move it and link to open-4
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4
OPEN-4 As an Open Source Developer, I would like to use Fmod in the autobuild system if i have the needed files already
  	Merovingian  	does that
  	Oz Linden  	VWR-24366
13:54 	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	that's already in STORM ?
  	Cummere Mayo  	that got moved
  	  	between when i wrote the list and now
  	Oz Linden  	ok... leave it
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	STORM-981
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/STORM-981
STORM-981 CMAKE_EXE_LINKER_FLAGS not honored when linking the viewer binary if -DLL_TESTS:BOOL=ON
  	Oz Linden  	VWR-24375
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24375
VWR-24375 link phase secondlife-bin fails; supplied LL-lib libuuid.so.1 needs to be removed.
13:56 	Oz Linden  	not clear to me what the problem or the fix is....
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	already has a dup in OPEN ?
  	  	OPEN-16
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-16
OPEN-16 link phase secondlife-bin fails; supplied LL-lib libuuid.so.1 needs to be upgraded
  	Oz Linden  	good catch...close as dup then
13:57 	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	Ah, that's one of those we moved from SNOW
  	Oz Linden  	VWR-24410
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24410
VWR-24410 settings.xml not always updated during incremental builds, causing "WARNING: get: Control UpdaterMaximumBandwidth not found." and crash
  	Cummere Mayo  	is this kinda thing an open issue or not? so i know for future ref
13:58 	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	yeah
  	Oz Linden  	yes
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	probably a missing dependency declaration
  	Oz Linden  	smells related to the settings problem Jonathan is having .... move it
  	Cummere Mayo  	kay i wanst sure
  	Jonathan  	it's only related by name
13:59 	Oz Linden  	VWR-24484
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24484
VWR-24484 libmedia_plugin_webkit.so doesn't find libqgif.so on standalone, all web features defunct
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	standalone-specific, so OPEN, I'd say
14:00 	Office Orb  	Your timer has expired!
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	(might also be Gentoo specific)
  	Robin Cornelius  	no its not, its general standalone issue
  	Oz Linden  	I guess, but there's so much custom stuff in this I don't know what we'll do with it....
  	Robin Cornelius  	its related to how you build llqtwebkit
  	Cummere Mayo  	well i hope that list was good? ill try and get another done in the next week
  	Robin Cornelius  	-rpath is your friend
  	Oz Linden  	VWR-24594
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24594
VWR-24594 Problems with develop.py and vstool when trying to setup new development environment with Visual Studio 2010
  	Oz Linden  	move to OPEN (without looking)
14:01 	Tonya Souther  	the rest are VS 2010 too.
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	why not close it? itsll be bypased with autobuild
  	  	right?
14:02 	Oz Linden  	24594 we should close, I think
  	Merovingian  	just moved it
  	Oz Linden  	the next two move,
  	  	that's ok
14:03 	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	ew, cascaded titles in description
  	Oz Linden  	the rest, move and we'll sort them out in the 2010 process
  	Cummere Mayo  	did i do okay with that list oz?
14:04 	Oz Linden  	I'm going to leave item 4 from the agenda on for next time: Other Autobuild Issues Triage:
* OPEN-11 Change STANDALONE to something less confusing
* OPEN-17 Upgrade builds to use OpenJPEG 1.4 (and create autobuild configuration for the lib)
  	Office Orb  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-11
OPEN-11 Change STANDALONE to something better.
  	  	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-17
OPEN-17 64bit standalone build clients do not correctly upload textures with alpha
  	Oz Linden  	Outstanding, Cummere
  	Cummere Mayo  	k ill take another pass through when i can find time then
  	Oz Linden  	there was only one there that didn't belong, and it didn't belong in VWR either!!
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	weve been using openjpeg 1.4 w/o much issue in FS and phoenix
14:05 	Oz Linden  	Thank you everyone, and especially Merov for volunteering to do the Jira mechanics!
  	Robin Cornelius  	yes thats an old buggy openjpeg issue that i fixed
  	  	OPEN-17 close it with use a recent openjpeg
  	Cummere Mayo  	oh oz before i go... I sent the ca directly to you, so it may need forwarded... asumming its acceptable as is?
14:06 	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	thx Os and Mervo for taking your time with us
  	Oz Linden  	I'm going to get an autobuild-ized openjpeg repo up soon (unless someone else wants to do it?)
  	  	I'll get it Cummere.... and can forward just fine... thank you
  	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks 	Oz*
  	Robin Cornelius  	just don't use the 1.3 tarball as a base
  	Oz Linden  	no, we'll get the new one
  	Robin Cornelius  	thats svn only i think
  	  	or git
14:07 	Oz Linden  	autobuild can pull from svn
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	git?
  	Oz Linden  	adding support for git should be easy if we have to do that
  	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  	ah, the upstream repo
  	Robin Cornelius  	ah sorry thats the debian repro not offical openjpeg
  	Oz Linden  	Maybe our Phoenix friends can help us get that set up?
14:08 	Office Orb  	End transcription
  	Tonya Souther  	We can probably wrangle that, I think.