Adult Content User Group/04/16/2012

==Attendees List==
*Huntress Catteneo (huntress.catteneo)
*Innula Zenovka (innula.zenovka)
*Marquette (karim.marquette)
*MartinRJ (martinrj)
*MartinRJ Fayray (martinrj.fayray)
*Qie (qie.niangao)
*SpencerBlake (spencerblake)
*only in sl (viale.linden)
*Vincent Nacon (vincent.nacon)
*Xiola Linden (xiola.linden)
*Zada Bury (zada.bury)
==Transcript for Monday April 16, 2012==
[10:04]	Xiola Linden 	I know it has been awhile - and I think the few items I have are around griefers and some house keeping stuff
[10:04]	Xiola Linden 	Hello! :-))
[10:04]	Xiola Linden 	Spencer
[10:04]	Innula Zenovka 	Hi, Spencer
[10:04]	SpencerBlake 	does anyone have voice chat turned on
[10:04]	SpencerBlake 	does anyone do that here lol
[10:04]	Qie 	I can hear it, but these meetings are usually in text
[10:05]	MartinRJ 	hello
[10:05]	SpencerBlake 	oh am i interrrupting a metting ><
[10:05]	SpencerBlake 	meeting
[10:05]	Xiola Linden 	Re: Griefing in the adult sandbox area in particular - we know that is a persistent problem and are looking into ways to improve tools for dealing with this type of issue
[10:05]	Vincent Nacon 	yes you are! you must be jailed!
[10:05]	Xiola Linden 	This is a meeting, Spencer - but you are more than welcome to stay
[10:06]	Qie 	Spencer, we were waiting for you to arrive! :p
[10:06]	SpencerBlake 	ooh ok lol ><
[10:06]	Vincent Nacon 	welcome but jailed
[10:06]	Xiola Linden 	We meet once a month here to discuss Adult content ssues
[10:06]	Xiola Linden 	+i
[10:06]	Innula Zenovka 	what sort of tools, Xiola, and who would be able to use them?
[10:06]	Xiola Linden 	So we understand the frustrating of the griefing, and we are in communication with our support team to find better ways to handle this
[10:06]	SpencerBlake 	wondered how they did that on here
[10:07]	Vincent Nacon 	oh come on, Xiola, even I know that kind of answer
[10:07]	Vincent Nacon 	there's no better way to address human's nature of being a "jerk"
[10:07]	Xiola Linden 	in the meantime, it would be best to continue to send in tickets and work with support because it is important to get all the information that we can to better the tools
[10:08]	Zada Bury 	Sorry for late ... office is hell
[10:08]	Qie 	there *was* talk at one point of a scripting function to return objects from parcels... that would be useful, assuming the scripted object could be operated by responsible parties on the parcel.
[10:08]	Xiola Linden 	hey Zada
[10:08]	Vincent Nacon 	only if making another new account wasn't so easy
[10:08]	Innula Zenovka 	hi, Zada
[10:09]	Xiola Linden 	There is definately a lot of talk around ways to improve. Please send any specific ideas you have in!
[10:09]	Innula Zenovka 	and will these tools be available to all the public sandboxes, or is this some special measure to assist the Vortex?
[10:09]	Vincent Nacon 	without looking so evil?
[10:10]	Xiola Linden 	It will be worked on with the whole grid in mind.
[10:10]	Innula Zenovka 	thanks
[10:10]	Xiola Linden 	Just seems to be quiet prominent in the vortex these days
[10:10]	Xiola Linden 	sure, no problem :)
[10:10]	Vincent Nacon 	stopping grieffing require a lot out of LL
[10:10]	Xiola Linden 	Couple of house keeping items - we are still working with the product team on improving age verification
[10:11]	Xiola Linden 	and the idea of having inworld age verification
[10:11]	Innula Zenovka 	seems to me that most places that run classes and building contests solve the problem by using a group owned land
[10:11]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: did you get my email about a request for a jira section for problems with adult filters and other adult related topics in the public JIRA?
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[10:11]	Vincent Nacon 	account creation control management with approval and more verification....
[10:11]	Vincent Nacon 	and faster support
[10:11]	Vincent Nacon 	so fast that soon as I press a button, a linden pop up at my request
[10:12]	Vincent Nacon 	almost like it used to be back 6 years ago
[10:12]	Xiola Linden 	we did receive your agenda item, Martin
[10:12]	Innula Zenovka 	i don't know if this is related to the Age Verification issue, but how is the problem with traffic being misreported in the Destination Guide coming on?
[10:12]	Innula Zenovka 	I saw the figures were all over the place this weekend.. and it is an issue for the Adult Hub, certainly
[10:13]	Xiola Linden 	still in process, Innula. I wish I had more of an update for you on this. I do know that it is affeting all of DG, not just the adult content
[10:13]	Xiola Linden 	but it is on the radar
[10:13]	Innula Zenovka 	people see in the DG and it's reported as having no one there, no matter how many there are
[10:13]	Xiola Linden 	and viale and I are bringing it up so it doesn't slide off the plate
[10:13]	Vincent Nacon 	maybe you're picking up spirits?
[10:14]	Xiola Linden 	ah - speak of viale - he may well be here in a minute
[10:14]	Zada Bury 	btw ...are we in "small talk before the meeting" ... or just rushing tough the agenda-points?
[10:15]	Xiola Linden 	we are going through the agenda items
[10:15]	Vincent Nacon 	and I'm giving small talk
[10:15]	Xiola Linden 	:)
[10:15]	Zada Bury 	mmm-hmm.
[10:15]	Xiola Linden 	i do have some of your iteams from Mach, Zada
[10:16]	Vincent Nacon 	March?
[10:16]	Zada Bury 	Yes ... I was be beaten by the day-light-saving-time differences
[10:16]	Xiola Linden 	Yes, the last meeting we had
[10:16]	Zada Bury 	Not only me, btw ... someone else was also 1 hour to late here.
[10:17]	Xiola Linden 	one of your points was the age verification - which is a work in progress or WIP. :)
[10:17]	Marquette 	i found out about this meeting on twitter, is there an in-world Group for notifications about meetings?
[10:17]	Vincent Nacon 	no
[10:17]	Vincent Nacon 	make time to show up on your own
[10:17]	Marquette 	ah, kk
[10:18]	Vincent Nacon 	it's a public meeting, meaning anyone can join.
[10:18]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: you can join the advanced worlds group, there is a notification, I believe
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[10:18]	Innula Zenovka 	it was posted in the Adult Content Forum, and I bumped it up earlier today, but prolly not many people read that
[10:18]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: but that's non-official!
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[10:18]	Zada Bury 	Here you can read also about: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_Content_User_Group
[10:18]	Xiola Linden 	There was also mention of the speed of the monorail - this is a land thing. We can send the feedback along. Zada - this was one of your items, I believe
[10:19]	Vincent Nacon 	I use my own phone to remind me of meeting
[10:19]	Marquette 	okies, i'll bookmark that, thanks!
[10:19]	Zada Bury 	Yes
[10:20]	Zada Bury 	the thing is that fast, I can guarantee a crash ... or see nothing.
[10:20]	Xiola Linden 	zoom zoom
[10:20]	Vincent Nacon 	or new grey world
[10:20]	Xiola Linden 	crash
[10:20]	Vincent Nacon 	and more group invite
[10:20]	Zada Bury 	As "that" eye-catcher", it was announced before 2 years, I would suggest a little slower speed and more friendly sim-crossings and so on.
[10:20]	Vincent Nacon 	and some other chat spam
[10:20]	Xiola Linden 	thanks, Zada
[10:21]	Xiola Linden 	I think the last one I have from you is about the Exploringzindra flickr-group
[10:21]	Zada Bury 	Mmmm ... ok ... if we Residents see "Zoom-Zooom, crash" ... why not also LL?
[10:21]	Vincent Nacon 	sim crossing should get better soon, as they got new codes in the work and might be rolling out soon in RC
[10:21]	Xiola Linden 	That is an account we are still deciding what to do
[10:22]	Innula Zenovka 	what's happened to Viale? he was on the roof a minute ago
[10:22]	Vincent Nacon 	I banned him for being late
[10:22]	Zada Bury 	Vincent ... my DSL-connection allow more connection speed than the LL-servers support ... but best you see "things" from the landscape ... try, then you will see.
[10:22]	Xiola Linden 	We'll send the feedback along re: the monorail speed
[10:23]	Vincent Nacon 	(no idea what happened to him)
[10:23]	Xiola Linden 	he's still trying to get here
[10:23]	Zada Bury 	*smirks* I gues he follow the landing-point I send ...
[10:23]	Innula Zenovka 	there he is
[10:24]	Qie 	Zada, it's not nice to TP Lindens to your dungeon. Unless they ask, of course.
[10:24]	Zada Bury 	He's sitting in the "smoker edge" ... heya Viale ^_^
[10:24]	only in sl 	hi
[10:24]	Innula Zenovka 	hi
[10:24]	Xiola Linden 	Hello! :-))
[10:24]	Xiola Linden 	Viale
[10:24]	Qie 	Hi Viale.
[10:24]	Zada Bury 	Who say, I am nice, Qie?
[10:24]	Zada Bury 	Also it's a Linden-builing with a seating place on the roof ...
[10:25]	Qie 	Zada, I believe you... but then, I've never been to your dungeon. As far as you know, anyway. :p
[10:25]	Xiola Linden 	we were just about to talk about martin's item
[10:25]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: yes
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[10:25]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: :) great
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[10:26]	Xiola Linden 	RE: a Jira or support request type to submit problems with adult filters
[10:27]	only in sl 	We did follow-up on that and adult events are enabled
[10:27]	only in sl 	I see them all the time
[10:28]	only in sl 	seems like a filter issue
[10:28]	only in sl 	instead of JIRA - I recommend taking that up wityh support
[10:28]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: well most support types are only available for premium members
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[10:28]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: and most members are non-premium, so these cases will still end up in the jira
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[10:28]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: and get closed, because LL sends them to support
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[10:28]	Vincent Nacon 	or maybe people are just not following the rules and working around that filter?
[10:28]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: :D
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[10:28]	only in sl 	Support does handle all issues
[10:29]	Vincent Nacon 	you gotta make sure it's not really broken as it seem
[10:29]	only in sl 	and land owners and premiums get elevated support
[10:29]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: basic support has only a very limited selection of support types
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[10:29]	only in sl 	we found no technical issues
[10:29]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: like a sim-restart requesat.
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[10:30]	only in sl 	Copy on your support ticket Martin
[10:30]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: I'm good with a support type, but you should make sure that it will be available for basic-members
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[10:30]	only in sl 	community@lindenlab.com
[10:30]	only in sl 	thanks
[10:30]	Xiola Linden 	cc: community
[10:30]	Vincent Nacon 	maybe basic-member with some age
[10:30]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: hehe
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[10:30]	Xiola Linden 	ok, I think we touched on the items I had on the agenda
[10:31]	Vincent Nacon 	I don't mean RL age but SL account age
[10:31]	only in sl 	waves to Innula
[10:31]	only in sl 	Have not seen you in a bit
[10:31]	Marquette 	do you guys have time for a question?
[10:31]	Innula Zenovka 	/me waves to Viale.. long time no see
[10:32]	Innula Zenovka 	you should come to the BDSM hub more, viale..
[10:32]	only in sl 	Ok!
[10:32]	Marquette 	is LL planning on doing any kind of advertising? it seems traffic is going down
[10:32]	only in sl 	Not exactly true
[10:33]	Xiola Linden 	This meeting is specifically for Adult Content related agenda items
[10:33]	only in sl 	Active Ad campaigns continue
[10:33]	Vincent Nacon 	better question is....
[10:33]	Vincent Nacon 	where are you putting ads?
[10:33]	only in sl 	How do you promote yourself @marquette?
[10:34]	Marquette 	good answer viale!
[10:34]	only in sl 	What is your twitter?
[10:34]	Vincent Nacon 	/me sighs...
[10:34]	Marquette 	@mastermarquette
[10:35]	Marquette 	i'm just a concerned adult resi, i just concerned about SL is all
[10:35]	only in sl 	Do you blog?
[10:35]	only in sl 	In the affiliate program? Destination Guide?
[10:35]	Marquette 	i been concentrating on having sex, but i can blog
[10:36]	only in sl 	OK
[10:36]	only in sl 	priorities
[10:36]	Marquette 	rofl
[10:36]	only in sl 	I will tell you this - Reg was up 50% in the 2nd half of last year
[10:36]	Marquette 	awesom!
[10:36]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: wow that's great:)
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[10:36]	only in sl 	we are currently running 20% up this year
[10:36]	only in sl 	bringing the traffic
[10:37]	Innula Zenovka 	that's up on what?
[10:37]	only in sl 	you may have noticed at reg we have an age verfication email
[10:37]	only in sl 	so the adult group is well represented
[10:37]	Innula Zenovka 	i mean, 50% on the previous half year, or the half year of the previous year, or what?
[10:38]	Qie 	It does seem that concurrency may be finally turning the corner, too. http://www.gridsurvey.com/charts/stl_concurrency.png -- although it's some heavy statistical manipulation behind that "underlying trend" curve.
[10:38]	only in sl 	year over year
[10:38]	Innula Zenovka 	thanks
[10:38]	only in sl 	we continue to have issues with stickiness
[10:38]	only in sl 	SL is hard for noobies
[10:38]	Innula Zenovka 	/me refrains from making a vulgar remark
[10:38]	Marquette 	i have a comment there
[10:38]	only in sl 	and highly addictive for existing folks
[10:38]	Vincent Nacon 	noobs or newbies?
[10:38]	only in sl 	we all know this
[10:39]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: a very high priority-issue: gmail blocked the email address that sends account verification email
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[10:39]	only in sl 	Thanks Martin
[10:39]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: so 99% of users will never get their account verification email
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[10:39]	Marquette 	i noticed that there are vendors who sell and all-in-one AV: shape, skin, hair, clothes...
[10:39]	only in sl 	we watch deliverability of all isps and across countries
[10:39]	Marquette 	could be a lot easier for noobs to get started quick
[10:39]	only in sl 	We send out seeds to all isps
[10:39]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: SECONDLIFE@E.SECONDLIFE.COM is blocked by gmail as spam
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[10:39]	only in sl 	we will double check with Google postmaster
[10:40]	only in sl 	cool
[10:40]	MartinRJ 	Fayray: ok thank you viale
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[10:40]	only in sl 	we will fix that
[10:40]	only in sl 	the 3 emails at registration have been very effective
[10:40]	only in sl 	gues which one does the best?
[10:40]	Vincent Nacon 	oh that reminds me....
[10:41]	Qie 	oh, actually, speaking of making it easier to get started -- any word on another web-based viewer trial? The one before seemed promising, IMHO.
[10:41]	Vincent Nacon 	I don't have the name or the URL but I've reported a punk gone around spamming group with a URL leading them to a fake SL login page
[10:41]	Vincent Nacon 	it was yestorday
[10:41]	Zada Bury 	not only yesterday ...
[10:41]	only in sl 	Ok
[10:41]	Vincent Nacon 	you too eh?
[10:42]	only in sl 	I have been reminded that we are off agenda
[10:42]	Vincent Nacon 	yup
[10:42]	Qie 	(true)
[10:42]	Vincent Nacon 	muhaha!
[10:42]	only in sl 	I have to go
[10:42]	only in sl 	miss you guys
[10:42]	Zada Bury 	Take care, Viale
[10:42]	Qie 	thanks Viale
[10:42]	Huntress Catteneo	there is a lot of spam scams going around in groups atm
[10:42]	Xiola Linden 	Keep the agenda items coming in
[10:42]	Marquette 	thanks!
[10:42]	Xiola Linden 	community@lindenlab.com
[10:42]	Huntress Catteneo	worse than normal
[10:42]	only in sl 	Thanks Marquette
[10:42]	only in sl 	Huntress
[10:42]	only in sl 	I was on vacay
[10:42]	only in sl 	I am back
[10:43]	Huntress Catteneo	really?? not a ghost? lol
[10:43]	only in sl 	as Xiola mentioned continue to report to support
[10:43]	Xiola Linden 	I think we are on for the third monday of the month.
[10:43]	only in sl 	the tickets need to show up
[10:43]	Marquette 	ah cool
[10:43]	only in sl 	I cannot help 24/7
[10:43]	Xiola Linden 	thanks, all!
[10:43]	only in sl 	bye
[10:43]	Qie 	Thanks Xiola
[10:43]	only in sl 	Bye Qie, innula, and Zada
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