Beta Server Office Hours/Minutes/2012-04-26

Category:Beta Server Office Hours - Minutes
This meeting was held on April 26, 2012
== Agenda ==
=== Updates ===
* All channels got updates this week
* Avatar fly height was changed to 5000 on all regions now.
* Major datacenter outages today
** Network outages
** Services paused
* Second Life Server Channel
* Inventory API changes
** Improvements were made to the way inventory transactions are handled in order to improve scalability and reliability of inventory transfers.
** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Server/12#12.04.12.253726
* BlueSteel RC Channel
* This is a Maint-Server.
* "Fixes a simulator crash."
* This is also on the LeTigre channel.
** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_BlueSteel/12#12.04.20.254296
* LeTigre RC Channel
* This is the same code as BlueSteel.
** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_LeTigre/12#12.04.20.254296
* Magnum RC Channel
* This is a maint-server deploy. 
* Features
** New PRIM_SLICE value can be used in llGetLinkPrimitiveParams() and similar functions to set the slice value for prims that support slice values.
** HTTP_BODY_MAXLENGTH has been added to llHTTPRequest() allowing return body sizes up to 4k for LSO and 16k for Mono scripts
** New LSL llGetRegionAgents() function returns a list of all agent keys on the region
* New Bug Fixes
** : Group Notices not working on Magnum 12.04.13.253827
* Bug Fixes
** : Add flag parameter [vector slice] to llSetPrimitiveParams PRIM_TYPE flags PRIM_TYPE_BOX, PRIM_TYPE_CYLINDER, and PRIM_TYPE_PRISM
** : Increase HTTP Response body size from 2048 to 4096 or larger
** : llGetRegionAgents() -- returns list of agent keys in the current region
** : Excessive EnableSimulator message spamming to viewers
** : creation of scripts gets a nice error
* Avatar Fly Height Restriction is being raised to 5,000m.
** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_Magnum/12#12.04.20.254297
* PathFinding User Group right after this meeting.
=== Upcoming Stuff ===
=== Interesting Stuff ===
* Pathfinding Beta Regions Live on AGNI
** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Pathfinding_Public_Beta
=== Transcript ===
Transcript of Oskar Linden's Server Beta User Group for April 26, 2012:
* [15:00] Rickk Turbo: i need a faster PC hulu it playing too slow :\
* [15:00] Larre Leborski: Lolz!! Probably Nintendo games on the SL servers someplace :-)
* [15:00] Oskar Linden: the ground is movey
* [15:00] Draconis Neurocam: it was xstorm
* [15:00] Flip Idlemind: Hey guize
* [15:01] SonicAnd Miles: wow that thing is 185 prims
* [15:01] Kallista Destiny: Yes We noticed
* [15:01] Fancy Greeter: Maestro Linden has arrived!
* [15:01] Fancy Greeter: Kelly Linden has arrived!
* [15:01] Oskar Linden: good day to you all
* [15:01] Rickk Turbo: hello Maestro
* [15:01] Flip Idlemind: LINDEN PARTY
* [15:01] SonicAnd Miles: Hey Maestro and Kelly :)
* [15:01] Kallista Destiny: Woo the whole first team...
* [15:01] Theresa Tennyson: Hello!
* [15:01] Lares Carter: Hi Oskar
* [15:02] Matu: HEllo
* [15:02] Larre Leborski: Indeed.. Hi all :-)
* [15:02] Psi Merlin: Hello Team Linden
* [15:02] Moundsa Mayo: howzya, all!
* [15:02] Oskar Linden: how is everyone today?
* [15:02] Rickk Turbo: poorly
* [15:02] Kallista Destiny: Lagged
* [15:02] Rickk Turbo: got my gf keeping my company (laptop) :)
* [15:02] SonicAnd Miles: doin good :)
* [15:02] Flip Idlemind: Well I'm doing great
* [15:03] Larre Leborski: Indeed.. Good now that I was able to make it to BB school :-)
* [15:03] Rickk Turbo: me*
* [15:03] Sigma Avro: rainy spring
* [15:04] Oskar Linden: Seattle is rainy too
* [15:04] Oskar Linden: alright, here is the agenda: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group
* [15:05] Oskar Linden: we got all channels updated this week
* [15:05] Oskar Linden: all rolls went well enough
* [15:06] Oskar Linden: a few regions needed to be beaten into submission
* [15:06] Oskar Linden: and then today...
* [15:06] Oskar Linden: one of our datacenters had some network outages
* [15:06] SonicAnd Miles: lol
* [15:06] Oskar Linden: to put it lightly
* [15:06] Oskar Linden: we had to begin pausing services until we got the datacenters back online
* [15:06] Motor Loon: Hey.,.. my house got cleaned and my dishes done because of that!
* [15:07] Oskar Linden: nice!
* [15:07] Motor Loon: yeah
* [15:07] Motor Loon: I was whining about it a lot though while cleaning
* [15:07] Oskar Linden: how are things looking now Steven?
* [15:07] Rickk Turbo: Im still homeless so no worries for me :)
* [15:07] Flip Idlemind: What services and how were they "paused"?
* [15:07] Flip Idlemind: (For the curious)
* [15:07] Kallista Destiny: And Verizion and Time-Warner got yelled at
* [15:07] Steven Linden: Still pulling the last few pieces together, oskar
* [15:08] Larre Leborski: Indeed.. and what cirt was this datacenter in?
* [15:08] Motor Loon: oh I dont think I know Steven... what do you do Steven?
* [15:08] Larre Leborski: *city
* [15:08] Oskar Linden: oh this is Steven btw
* [15:08] Motor Loon: Hi Steven °͜°
* [15:08] Steven Linden: Hello!
* [15:08] Oskar Linden: please introduce yourself steven for those who don't know you
* [15:08] Larre Leborski: Indeed.. Welcome Steve :-)
* [15:08] Sigma Avro: Hello
* [15:08] Moundsa Mayo: BTW, heck - sounds like he's very importatant right now!
* [15:08] Kallista Destiny: Welcome to the nuthouse Steven
* [15:08] Steven Linden: Well... I'm a release engineer
* [15:09] Oskar Linden: Steven is very important
* [15:09] Steven Linden: I work alongside Coyot (who's sick today)
* [15:09] Oskar Linden: poor Coyot. send him love on agni
* [15:09] Moundsa Mayo: How convenient B^D
* [15:09] Motor Loon: aww poor little Coyot, send love
* [15:09] Rickk Turbo: leet coder for ll then?
* [15:09] Moundsa Mayo: And chicken soup!
* [15:09] Kallista Destiny: Ate a bad Lamb...
* [15:09] Oskar Linden: Coyot and I ate at a French restaurant in SF last week
* [15:10] Motor Loon: so... you release the engineers...
* [15:10] Oskar Linden: we both had the Lapin ala Moutard
* [15:10] Moundsa Mayo: Vraiment!
* [15:10] Sigma Avro: oh, some frogs then ?
* [15:10] Oskar Linden: Mustard Rabbit
* [15:10] Steven Linden: Oh no... I release software that the engineers build
* [15:10] Motor Loon: ah
* [15:10] Motor Loon: guess there's a difference there
* [15:10] Oskar Linden: Steven is up at 6am with me every Tuesday morning
* [15:11] Oskar Linden: he is the man behind the upgrade process
* [15:11] Ima Mechanique: yeah, nobody is allowed to release the engineers
* [15:11] Oskar Linden: I am the man behind the man watching the upgrade process
* [15:11] Sigma Avro: can we have is cell phone number ? :)
* [15:11] Lil' Fuzzy Rascal: Rawr..
* [15:11] Sigma Avro: *his
* [15:11] Steven Linden: This is true, I do the Tuesday rolls
* [15:11] SonicAnd Miles: lol
* [15:12] Motor Loon: Alrighty
* [15:12] Flip Idlemind: So what services got "paused"
* [15:12] Motor Loon: network service Flip °͜°
* [15:13] Theresa Tennyson: Everything, sounds like.
* [15:13] Oskar Linden: billing services did
* [15:13] Moundsa Mayo: NP there!
* [15:13] Oskar Linden: things that would make people lose moneys
* [15:13] Motor Loon: Fair enough
* [15:13] Moundsa Mayo: Oops - forgot the sarcasm tags
* [15:13] Sigma Avro: some people is winning moeney here ?
* [15:13] Oskar Linden: but things look like they have calmed down
* [15:13] Oskar Linden: it was stressful for a bit there
* [15:13] Oskar Linden: but we have an amazing ops team
* [15:14] Oskar Linden: they do good work
* [15:14] Moundsa Mayo: But at least there were no Residents complaining ...
* [15:14] Oskar Linden: right...
* [15:14] Motor Loon: the complaint service was paused
* [15:14] Oskar Linden: so I'm going to chat about the releases this week now
* [15:14] Motor Loon: yes please
* [15:14] Oskar Linden: Tuesday all channels got the Inventory API changes
* [15:14] Sigma Avro: was not in. Merchants cpmplain more about MP than lidens transfer usaualy
* [15:15] Oskar Linden: that seems to have gone fine
* [15:15] Oskar Linden: we do have the new avatar fly height on all regions now
* [15:15] Oskar Linden: that also seems to be going fine
* [15:15] Oskar Linden: everyone can fly and is happy
* [15:15] Oskar Linden: like a little bird
* [15:15] Motor Loon: \o/
* [15:15] Sigma Avro: What about functions that go up to 4096 m ?
* [15:15] Larre Leborski: Indeed :-)
* [15:16] Oskar Linden: what about them?
* [15:16] Motor Loon: we're talking avatar flight limits not objects right
* [15:16] Sigma Avro: llSetRegionPos, have not check its capabilities with b5000
* [15:16] Oskar Linden: avatar flight restrictions
* [15:16] Sigma Avro: oh, ok
* [15:17] Oskar Linden: that is the only change
* [15:17] Rickk Turbo: what are they restrictions?
* [15:17] Motor Loon: good change though
* [15:17] Sigma Avro: (sorry for noise)
* [15:17] Oskar Linden: BlueSteel and LeTigre got new code
* [15:17] Motor Loon: time to burn them flightfeathers in a giant bonfire
* [15:17] Nalates Urriah: All birds flying around without feathers look a little funny, but otherwise no problem
* [15:17] Oskar Linden: it's a maint-server
* [15:18] Oskar Linden: "Fixes a simulator crash."
* [15:18] Oskar Linden: that's about all the details we have to share :-)
* [15:18] Oskar Linden: yay for fixing sim crashes though
* [15:18] Motor Loon: I've been having ALOT of griefing lately with some "new" simcrasher... said to be physics related... you guys know anything about such a "tool" ?
* [15:18] Oskar Linden: I think the SEC team is tracking a few of those
* [15:19] Motor Loon: Excellent
* [15:19] Motor Loon: I've been trying to get ahold of one, but it's rather tricky
* [15:19] Motor Loon: for a SEC jira
* [15:19] Oskar Linden: thanks
* [15:19] Oskar Linden: yeah let me know if you do
* [15:19] Oskar Linden: people area always creating new vectors for annoying griefing
* [15:19] Motor Loon: indeed
* [15:19] Motor Loon: we get hit usually every day... often 2-3 times a day with sims crashing as a result
* [15:20] Oskar Linden: Magnum is the same as before
* [15:20] Oskar Linden: with a fix for SVC-7845
* [15:20] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-7845] Group notices are not sent to users from 12.04.13.253827 RC https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-7845
* [15:20] Sigma Avro: whom "we" Motor ?
* [15:20] Motor Loon: my estate
* [15:20] Sigma Avro: many sims ?
* [15:20] Motor Loon: 150-200
* [15:21] Sigma Avro: ok, ok, good statitics
* [15:21] Motor Loon: but its usually only 3-4 sims that are attacked, always the same ones
* [15:21] Flip Idlemind: Any reason not to expect what's on Magnum to get promoted next week?
* [15:21] Motor Loon: hehe
* [15:22] Motor Loon: we like the magnum right now
* [15:22] Motor Loon: goood stuff
* [15:22] Kelly Linden: Nearly all the maint-servers we have recently released or have in the pipe have some anti-grief / anti-sim crash code in them. However as you can imagine it is an arms race.
* [15:22] Oskar Linden: Magnum will more than likely get promoted next week
* [15:23] Motor Loon: oh hey kelly... didn't see you there
* [15:23] Flip Idlemind: All anti griefing effors are appreciated
* [15:23] Flip Idlemind: efforts
* [15:23] Nalates Urriah: yes
* [15:23] Motor Loon: ...amazingly with all the sparkle
* [15:23] Oskar Linden: maestro, kelly, anything upcoming worth talking about?
* [15:23] Ima Mechanique: Motor, how did you miss the glare?
* [15:23] Kelly Linden: not on my end.
* [15:23] Motor Loon: I know
* [15:23] Oskar Linden: you can't miss kelly's bling
* [15:23] Maestro Linden: Not too much. Pathfinding is coming along
* [15:24] Oskar Linden: maesrto anything pathfinding to chat about that won't be discussed in 37 minutes at Flacon's PUG?
* [15:24] Kallista DestinyKallista Destiny puts sunglasses on
* [15:24] Maestro Linden: otherwise, there have just been a few recent bugs that people noticed after the Inventory changes went to trunk
* [15:24] Maestro Linden: No, I don't think so
* [15:24] Sigma Avro: little flacons
* [15:24] Sigma Avro: lol
* [15:24] Motor Loon: It's probably Falcons "thing"... but if anyone knows about the upcomming changes to mesh accounting (after the VolumeDetect "fix" / pathfinding) I'd love to hear more detail
* [15:24] Motor Loon: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/PATHBUG-69
* [15:24] Flip Idlemind: Like newly created notecards not auto-opening? That's the only one I'm aware of
* [15:24] Flame of Jira: [#PATHBUG-69] llVolumeDetect(TRUE) is broken https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/PATHBUG-69
* [15:25] Maestro Linden: also svc-7862
* [15:25] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-7862] Saving a notecard containing an embedded item in a prim renders it blank or it locks with a no mod icon. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-7862
* [15:25] Maestro Linden: and svc-7858
* [15:25] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-7858] Items arriving in inventory don't become focused in the inventory window, when taking objects https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-7858
* [15:26] Motor Loon: oh yeah, I've been annoyed with those ones
* [15:26] Maestro Linden: 7862 is probably the most major
* [15:26] Oskar Linden: what would a release be without a few new bugs?
* [15:26] Moundsa Mayo: A dream.
* [15:26] Flip Idlemind: Oh good news, according to Andrew, one of my JIRAs (SVC-7792) is getting fixed with Pathfinding
* [15:26] Flip Idlemind: SVC-7792
* [15:26] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-7792] HUD Attachments Receive Infrequent Updates when Camera is Zoomed Out https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-7792
* [15:27] Motor Loon: good
* [15:27] Maestro Linden: Hm, I thought that was fixed in some other branch
* [15:28] Motor Loon: A double-fix then?
* [15:28] Maestro Linden: oh, well it's also in some future maint-server release as well
* [15:28] Maestro Linden: *shrug*
* [15:28] Maestro Linden: double the fun
* [15:28] Oskar Linden: maestro do you have the link for Falcon's PUG?
* [15:28] Maestro Linden: secondlife://Aditi/secondlife/Pathtest%201/227/216/36 I suppose
* [15:29] Oskar Linden: I meant like in the wiki
* [15:29] Maestro LindenMaestro Linden just made that up, but is pretty sure it's in Pathtest 1
* [15:29] Maestro Linden: oh.. let's see
* [15:29] Maestro Linden: no, I can't find any links to the PUG
* [15:30] Sigma Avro: not sure there is yet
* [15:30] Oskar Linden: ok
* [15:30] Oskar Linden: someone make that happen and then let me know :-)
* [15:30] Oskar Linden: <_<
* [15:31] Sigma Avro: sure
* [15:31] Motor Loon: lol... I sorta keep expecting Steven to rez in at some point
* [15:31] Steven Linden: ha
* [15:31] Oskar Linden: is Steven not rezzed?
* [15:31] Motor Loon: °͜°
* [15:31] Sigma Avro: Steven is grieffing
* [15:31] Flip Idlemind: No he's just a cloud
* [15:31] Flip Idlemind: But, intentionally
* [15:31] Oskar Linden: oh right
* [15:31] Oskar Linden: he does that
* [15:32] Motor LoonMotor Loon thinks Steven just farts alot
* [15:32] Draconis Neurocam: I just set renderunloadedavatar to true so i see ruthed people rather than clouds
* [15:32] Sigma Avro: particles derenderd
* [15:32] Kallista Destiny: Ohh cool a multiple color cloud
* [15:32] Flip Idlemind: Yeah I'd rather see humanoids even if the shape isn't "right"
* [15:33] Rickk Turbo: instead of furries?
* [15:33] Rickk Turbo: :)
* [15:33] Flip Idlemind: Oh furries are humanoid (if I have my definition right)
* [15:33] Oskar Linden: so... I don't have much more for this meeting
* [15:33] Motor Loon: so Falcon does have a usergroup... it's just secret or?
* [15:33] Oskar Linden: we covered all the releases and don't have much upcoming at the moment
* [15:34] Sigma Avro: Falcon does not want a users group
* [15:34] Sigma Avro: just a meeting time and place
* [15:34] Motor Loon: aha
* [15:34] Motor Loon: typical... aalways gotta be different
* [15:34] Sigma Avro: so, no report needed, lol
* [15:35] Flip Idlemind: So, SVC-7790. Is that being looked at? I heard it was, but is it, like, at the next step after being "looked at" yet?
* [15:35] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-7790] "Avatar Sounds" feature fails to disable all scripted sounds https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-7790
* [15:36] Maestro Linden: No, it's just on the backlog at this point
* [15:36] Flip Idlemind: Oh, well that's something at least
* [15:36] Motor Loon: "in the paper pile"
* [15:37] Motor Loon: <crickets>
* [15:37] Oskar Linden: it's not that bad
* [15:37] Oskar Linden: just a matter of time
* [15:38] Oskar Linden: things get fixed a lot faster these days
* [15:38] Oskar Linden: in the grand scheme of grid fixes
* [15:38] Motor Loon: They do... kudos to LL for that btw
* [15:38] Larre Leborski: :-)
* [15:38] Sigma Avro: there is such a scheme ?
* [15:38] Theresa Tennyson: GRID fixes, yes...
* [15:39] Motor Loon: "* [15:36] Monty Linden: We're removing some of the stupid."
* [15:39] Oskar Linden: any questions with the time we have left?
* [15:39] SonicAnd Miles: lol
* [15:40] Motor Loon: nobody knew about the mesh accounting changes I mentioned earlier?
* [15:40] Sigma Avro: good one More
* [15:40] Flip Idlemind: I remember that quote but what was it in reference too
* [15:40] Oskar Linden: "* [15:37] Monty Linden: We're adding some more"
* [15:40] Sigma Avro: haha
* [15:40] Motor Loon: haha
* [15:40] Motor Loon: excellent Oskar
* [15:40] Oskar Linden: I can fake quotes all day
* [15:40] Oskar Linden: it's easy
* [15:41] Larre Leborski: Indeed.. What happened at this particular data center?? Someone tripped over a cord someplace?
* [15:41] Oskar Linden: "* [15:36] Abraham Lincoln: May the force be with you."
* [15:41] Lares Carter: Haven't heard about those changes, Motor. Thanks for the info, very excited to try them out soon. :)
* [15:41] Sigma Avro: darks side one ?
* [15:41] Motor LoonMotor Loon laughs his ass off...
* [15:41] Oskar Linden: I don't know the specifics Larre
* [15:41] Larre Leborski: Indeed.. ok.
* [15:41] Oskar Linden: it was hardware failures at the network level
* [15:41] Motor Loon: "coffee spill"
* [15:41] Oskar Linden: who knows
* [15:42] Oskar Linden: someone didn't feed the gerbils
* [15:42] Ima Mechanique: may be Coyot fell asleep on the router, would also explain his absence
* [15:42] Steven Linden: We don't let coyot near network hardware :)
* [15:42] Motor Loon: he's hiding in the bathroom with his empty coffee cup
* [15:42] Flip Idlemind: Well, if we're looking for topics...how's threaded region crossing coming along?
* [15:42] Larre Leborski: Indeed.. Probably lightning storm or tornado at the Dallas data center.. was hearing something like that.
* [15:42] Motor Loon: Miss supercode back from vacation yet?
* [15:43] Maestro Linden: yeah
* [15:43] SonicAnd Miles: I setup a data center in chicago :p
* [15:43] SonicAnd Miles: lol
* [15:43] Motor Loon: excellent
* [15:43] Motor Loon: indeed
* [15:43] Larre Leborski: :-)
* [15:44] Motor Loon: we all heard it...
* [15:44] Motor LoonMotor Loon grins
* [15:44] Moundsa Mayo: 'Big' is relative.
* [15:44] Oskar Linden: oh hush Ima
* [15:44] Flip Idlemind: Sometimes when I teleport, my attachments don't always come with me. They appear to be on me, but when I select them, their name and description are blank, and other people don't see them
* [15:44] Flip Idlemind: I'm not aware of a JIRA about it, but has anyone else noticed that?
* [15:44] Rickk Turbo: oh not that problem again
* [15:44] Motor Loon: Superglue Flip.... superglue
* [15:45] Ima Mechanique: we heard you, we might be deliberately mistaking your meaning, but we heard you
* [15:45] Oskar Linden: I don't know if ther eis a jira for that
* [15:45] Flip Idlemind: It seems to happen only to attachments with a large number of prims (> 150)
* [15:45] Motor Loon: so... it's kinda a feature more than a bug flip? °͜°
* [15:46] Rickk Turbo: something got lost in the teleporter compression?
* [15:46] Sigma Avro: yes, an antiogrieffer feature, lol
* [15:46] Motor Loon: new shiny lag-reducer
* [15:46] Flip Idlemind: Relogging clears it all up, but it seems like a problem in the "move stuff from region A to region B" machine (that's a thing, right?)
* [15:46] Theresa Tennyson: Dang, my HORSE is only around 100 prims.
* [15:46] Motor Loon: I could probably make a 1prim horse
* [15:46] Maestro Linden: Attachments region cross a bit differently than unattached objects
* [15:47] Larre Leborski: Indeed.. 1 prim sculpted horse with a sculpt map animation?
* [15:47] Sigma Avro: ?
* [15:47] Draconis Neurocam: do attachments worn through add rather than attach cross sims the same ways as the attached ones?
* [15:48] Multi Gadget v1.57.1Multi Gadget v1.57.1 by Timeless Prototype
* [15:48] Maestro Linden: I don't know about that, draconis
* [15:48] Motor Loon: I dont see why there should be a difference
* [15:49] Sigma Avro: so, some attachements cross only partyly region bordes. They are named partial attachments: new feature
* [15:49] Flip Idlemind: So if the thing I described is a bug, would fixing it be within the scope of the threaded region crossing project
* [15:50] Motor Loon: selfaware-artifical-intelligence-attachments that CHOOSES not to come with you on that teleport to Nudebeach island.
* [15:50] Sigma Avro: haha
* [15:51] Oskar Linden: hah
* [15:51] Oskar Linden: yeah that's it
* [15:51] Motor Loon: yeah... another fine byproduct of pathfinding
* [15:51] Oskar Linden: pathchoosing
* [15:51] Sigma Avro: lol
* [15:51] Motor Loon: ah yes ofcourse
* [15:51] Oskar Linden: it found the path it just chooses not to follow
* [15:52] Sigma Avro: path spliting
* [15:52] Motor Loon: Second life: Your attachments are now in evade mode and are hiding in a maze nearby
* [15:52] Sigma Avro: lol Motor
* [15:52] Theresa Tennyson: Depening on the attachment, that could be embarassing.
* [15:52] Kallista DestinyKallista Destiny chuckles
* [15:53] Motor Loon: whats embarassing for some, is entertainment for others
* [15:53] Larre Leborski: Ok.. now how do I get the render humanoid opeion in Phoenix so I don't have to look at cxlouds all the time?
* [15:53] Ima Mechanique: yes.... a new feature for exCite products!!
* [15:53] Larre Leborski: *clouds
* [15:53] Motor Loon: Its not a cloud Larre... it's just Steven
* [15:53] Kallista Destiny: Follow mode eh?
* [15:54] Oskar Linden: that's no cloud! That's a release engineer
* [15:54] Larre Leborski: Indeed.. ok.. I mean just getting the ruth avies when Steven is not around :-)
* [15:54] Oskar Linden: so we've got 6 minutes left
* [15:54] Sigma Avro: kirian effect
* [15:54] Oskar Linden: anything left to chat about?
* [15:54] Rickk Turbo: i had one of those cloud avs
* [15:54] Oskar Linden: any pressing issues you just have to get off your chest?
* [15:54] Rickk Turbo: heh
* [15:54] Oskar Linden: anything you've waited 54 minutes to tell a linden?
* [15:54] Motor Loon: well... I've been having this pain in my foot for a while... any clue what it is?
* [15:55] SonicAnd Miles: lol
* [15:55] Ima Mechanique: LSL Editor got an update this week to add the Magnum stuff
* [15:55] Oskar Linden: your a**?
* [15:55] Sigma Avro: yes, I lag, therefore I am
* [15:55] Rickk Turbo: I have a pain in the 3rd leg
* [15:55] Rickk Turbo: but im surviving :)
* [15:55] Will Webb: that's being updated again? good to know
* [15:55] SonicAnd Miles: my sim restarted and didnt lose the fly to 5000 today (yay -lol)
* [15:55] Oskar Linden: that's good
* [15:55] Kris Spade: Well my region has been down all day, but choosing not to contact concierge support until grid status is free and clear lol
* [15:55] Flip Idlemind: I found this, but I read it and I think it is rightly marked as "Needs More Info"
* [15:55] Flip Idlemind: VWR-13796
* [15:55] Flame of Jira: [#VWR-13796] attachments are broken/wired after teleport https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13796
* [15:55] SonicAnd Miles: :o
* [15:55] Motor Loon: yeah you laugh now Sonic... but wait til you find out you no longer can wear that excite in your sim
* [15:55] Will Webb: is the whole change your pwd error on this grid resolved yet? my invent and groups here date from early 2009 :-)
* [15:56] Larre Leborski: Indeed.. ALso I have seen a mainland sim in Nautilus that needs some real beating into submission :-)
* [15:56] Motor Loon: oh yes... update on the PW change/betagrid thing... dont wanna fuck up my inventory
* [15:56] Maestro Linden: I think a fix for the inventory synching script is in progress but hasn't been deployed yet, Will
* [15:56] Motor Loon: kk
* [15:56] Will Webb: i guess i can manage for a few more weeks :)
* [15:57] Draconis Neurocam: i actually see that problem a lot flip, bit i don't have a solid repro
* [15:57] Kris Spade: Do groups ever get synced to Aditi?
* [15:57] Will Webb: i have groups here i havent seen in ages
* [15:57] Draconis Neurocam: but*
* [15:57] Oskar Linden: groups don't get sync'd methinks
* [15:57] Oskar Linden: yeah...
* [15:57] Will Webb: still a SL mentor here apparently; htey used to get synced back in the day
* [15:57] Bullet Clip: 2 useless lindens
* [15:57] Maestro Linden: yeah I don't think groups are taken care of
* [15:57] Bullet Clip: |̶̿ ̶̿ ̶̿ ̶̿ |͇ ͇ ͇ ͇ ͇||͇̿ ͇̿ ͇̿ ͇̿ |< Y |͇̿ ͇̿ ͇̿||͇ ͇ ͇ ͇ ͇|!
* [15:57] Kris Spade: I did the password change thing, and got my updated inventory but didn't see any new groups I was in since last pw change
* [15:57] Will Webb: but then i'm talking 2008 and earlier
* [15:57] Flip Idlemind: Here's a better JIRA, I think, but it's marked as "Won't Finish"
* [15:57] Flip Idlemind: SVC-2743
* [15:57] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-2743] Attachment is attached in viewer, detached on server after TP with high attached prim count https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2743
* [15:58] Will Webb: even when siva was still around
* [15:58] Kallista Destiny: perhaps that might be good thing to considder
* [15:58] Kallista Destiny: What a moron
* [15:58] Draconis Neurocam: its only ever with attachments worn through add
* [15:58] Larre Leborski: Nautilus - Suniaton is the name of th regoin :-)
* [16:00] Kris Spade: Well I guess it's that time :D
* [16:00] Sigma Avro: Going to PUG..
* [16:00] Motor Loon: okies dokies.... where's PUG then?
* [16:00] Kris Spade: Me too
* [16:00] Kris Spade: Cya all!
* [16:00] Sigma Avro: PathTest1 region on beta
* [16:00] Motor Loon: okie
* [16:00] SonicAnd Miles: thanks for the meeting guys, see ya at the next one :)
* [16:00] Oskar Linden: have a good one
* [16:00] Oskar Linden: thanks for stopping by
* [16:00] Oskar Linden: :-)
* [16:00] Moundsa Mayo: Oskar, Maestro, Kelly, Steven, thanks for your time and hard work!
* [16:01] Motor Loon: tc oskar, maestro and our-new-friend-steven
* [16:01] SonicAnd Miles: thanks for all the info as always :)
* [16:01] Oskar Linden: enjoy Falcon's PUG
* [16:01] Maestro Linden: thanks for coming, everybody!
* [16:01] Motor Loon: and kelly... ya bling monster
* [16:01] Sigma Avro: Thanks Oskar, we will; ask Falcon for a link
* [16:01] Will Webb: is this same time every week?
* [16:01] Lares Carter: thanks for the meeting
* [16:01] Kallista Destiny: Thanks for the information *smiles*
* [16:01] Sigma Avro: Thansks Steven Maestro and Kelly
* [16:01] Will Webb: it's been a while for me
* [16:01] Ima Mechanique: thanks for having us