Adult Content User Group/10/24/2011

==Attendees List==
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*Androcles Megadon (androcles.megadon)
*Angela Kahealani (angela.kahealani)
*Ash Weststar (ash.weststar)
*Counter Landfall (counter.landfall)
*CrystalShard Foo (crystalshard.foo)
*Evelynn Kidd (evelynn.kidd)
*Innula Zenovka (innula.zenovka)
*Nal (nal)
*Qie (qie)
*Viale Linden (viale.linden)
*Zada Bury (zada.bury)
==Transcript for Monday October 24, 2011==
[10:02]	CrystalShard Foo 	:p
[10:03]	Zada Bury 	Heya Androcles and Viale
[10:03]	Innula Zenovka 	hiya
[10:03]	Counter Landfall 	Hi Viale
[10:03]	Counter Landfall 	Hi Nal
[10:04]	Viale Linden 	Hello
[10:04]	CrystalShard Foo 	Hai.
[10:04]	Zada Bury 	Heya Nal
[10:04]	Nal 	Hi Zada
[10:04]	Androcles Megadon 	hello everyone :)
[10:05]	Zada Bury 	WElcome to Angela
[10:05]	Angela Kahealani 	Aloha
[10:05]	Counter Landfall 	Hi Androcles
[10:05]	CrystalShard Foo 	brb a sec
[10:05]	Zada Bury 	Heya Qie.
[10:06]	Qie 	Hi Zada, all.
[10:06]	Innula Zenovka 	hiya Qie
[10:06]	Zada Bury 	Greetings to Imaze.
[10:06]	?????-----o-----?????	hello
[10:06]	Viale Linden 	Ok
[10:06]	Viale Linden 	How is everyone today?
[10:06]	CrystalShard Foo 	Puzzled, mostly!
[10:06]	Innula Zenovka 	fine thanks, how are you?
[10:07]	Zada Bury 	Mostly good.
[10:07]	Viale Linden 	I received one agenda item this week
[10:08]	Viale Linden 	So I will give a quick update and then I will let Counter have the floor
[10:08]	Counter Landfall 	ok
[10:08]	Zada Bury 	Oh ... there was a quastion .. we should still eMail them to you, not change the Wiki, right?
[10:08]	Viale Linden 	As you may know, we launched the Adult Content Forum last week
[10:08]	Viale Linden 	It was a slow start, but it picked up over the weekend
[10:09]	Zada Bury 	(( heya Evelynn))
[10:09]	Viale Linden 	we have 3 boards in the adult content foum
[10:09]	Viale Linden 	forum
[10:09]	Evelynn Kidd 	hi all sorry i am late
[10:09]	Viale Linden 	Events, General Discussion and Feedback
[10:10]	Viale Linden 	As with most of our Forums, it is open to all
[10:11]	Zada Bury 	((wb, imaze))
[10:11]	Counter Landfall 	will it be linked to the general forums?
[10:11]	Counter Landfall 	it seems to be on some odd URl at the moment
[10:11]	Counter Landfall 	URL
[10:11]	Zada Bury 	((welcome Ash))
[10:12]	Viale Linden 	It is a main category on forums
[10:12]	Innula Zenovka 	it's right down at the bottom of the page, underneath international and stuff
[10:12]	Viale Linden 	The other update, is we are still doing paperwork on the welcome proposal
[10:12]	Ash Weststar 	(Cheers Zada)
[10:13]	Viale Linden 	These things take time
[10:13]	Viale Linden 	so no news there
[10:13]	Viale Linden 	The Destination Guide seems to be picking up with great content
[10:14]	Counter Landfall 	right, I was not logged in when I looked for it
[10:14]	Zada Bury 	((heya, Tech))
[10:14]	Viale Linden 	That is my update for today. Before we go into general discussion. Counter has asked to present an event from the Zindra Alliance
[10:14]	Counter Landfall 	Thanks
[10:15]	Counter Landfall 	This is more like a pre announcement
[10:15]	Counter Landfall 	Soe of you may remember the naughty nsowman competition that was held in the Zindra sim last year?
[10:15]	Evelynn Kidd 	yes
[10:15]	Counter Landfall 	we want to follow up with an event this year also, but do it slighlty different
[10:16]	Counter Landfall 	so our intention is for a Naughty Snowman competition and hunt 2011 to be held in December
[10:16]	Counter Landfall 	preliminary outline is:
[10:16]	Counter Landfall 	The preliminary outline is that any land/business owner on the Zindra continent can register for an installment to the competition in two classes; Mesh and traditional prim+sculpt.
[10:17]	Counter Landfall 	A hunt / voting will then be organized running over 2-3 weeks where residents from all over the grid can visit the installments, vote for best entry in the two classes, and hunt for a gift at the location.
[10:17]	Counter Landfall 	The purpose of the event is to have fun, generate traffic for Zindra businesses, build community and strengthen the general image of "Destination Zindra".
[10:17]	Counter Landfall 	To register an installment you need to be a member of the Zindra Alliance group, but the land / business owner can join forces with anyone on the grid to create the installment for the competition.
[10:17]	Counter Landfall 	The event will tentatively run from Thanksgiving up till Christmas.
[10:17]	Viale Linden 	Like it
[10:18]	Viale Linden 	You should generaate interest on the Forum
[10:18]	Counter Landfall 	I guess some will see it as a limitation that you must be member of ZA to participate with a location, but it is kinda like you had to be in zexpo to be on that event
[10:18]	Evelynn Kidd 	bravo
[10:18]	Viale Linden 	Like it
[10:19]	Counter Landfall 	the question for the forum is where do we post it right now
[10:19]	Counter Landfall 	under events or general discussion
[10:19]	Counter Landfall 	... as it is not an event yet
[10:19]	Nal 	As it is planning stage I w ould thing GD
[10:19]	Viale Linden 	Very organic and you can promote in Destination Guide and Forum
[10:20]	Counter Landfall 	I hope it will bring some visitors into the sims of Zindra
[10:20]	Counter Landfall 	and the mesh part should encourage new creators and adoption of mesh capable viewers
[10:20]	Viale Linden 	I would post in general discussion and when the event becomes live, push over there
[10:21]	Counter Landfall 	sounds good Viale
[10:21]	Viale Linden 	I would also submit the idea to editor@lindenlab.com
[10:21]	Counter Landfall 	obviously we need volunteers
[10:21]	Counter Landfall 	will do
[10:21]	Viale Linden 	that way it will go into Destination Guide touchpoints
[10:21]	Counter Landfall 	but I will add that to the forum posting
[10:22]	Counter Landfall 	like a voting champion for instance
[10:22]	Viale Linden 	Thanks counter for moving this forward and let me know how we can help
[10:22]	Counter Landfall 	we will get back to you as we move it forward. thanks
[10:22]	Viale Linden 	I encourage everyone to promote their events through these new channels
[10:22]	Nal 	Does the forum have a Poll feature?
[10:23]	Counter Landfall 	the software platform does, but I dont think it has been deployed
[10:23]	Nal 	Thx
[10:24]	Viale Linden 	What were you thinking Nal?
[10:25]	Counter Landfall 	even though web based voting is easy to set up, it is easy to stuff the vote, so I would prefer in-world voting based on agent keys
[10:25]	Nal 	We need and easy voting method for lots of SL events. As it is now it is always a script or script and web site thing to record votes. SL needs somethng easy. I suppose I could search the JIRA
[10:25]	Counter Landfall 	would make it more fair
[10:26]	Viale Linden 	inworld voting would be better as it would encourage traffic
[10:26]	Nal 	Most forum polls allow a single vote per user.
[10:26]	Counter Landfall 	that too
[10:27]	Viale Linden 	However, I think polls could be a cool new my.sl feature
[10:27]	Nal 	If the forum poll were usable it might be an inducement to visit rather than trying to force it. It might attrack atention in the forum and pull people to Zindra.
[10:28]	Viale Linden 	I will look into it and report back on the Forum
[10:28]	Nal 	But an easy in-world voting system would be nice. Especially of results could push to the forum
[10:28]	Viale Linden 	Under Feedback
[10:29]	Viale Linden 	Likeit Nal
[10:30]	Viale Linden 	We should start posting more feedback on the Forum for transparency and so others can contribute
[10:31]	Evelynn Kidd 	ok
[10:31]	Counter Landfall 	agreed
[10:32]	Viale Linden 	wink to people in different timezones and people that work during the week
[10:32]	Viale Linden 	I wont reply to every item, but it is good to see the items
[10:33]	Viale Linden 	Good to see our Zindra Alliance friends are busy with Holiday events. Any othere planning?
[10:33]	Zada Bury 	((wb Crystal))
[10:33]	?????-----o-----?????	polls are not necessary working so well - people like from so different things - maybe somekind hierarchy like structure thingy? Like finding destination that are matching with keywords - instead of "most voted detination"
[10:33]	CrystalShard Foo 	CrystalShard Foo has a very stable internet day.
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[10:34]	Ash Weststar 	I don't think it will stop people from playing the system. One merely needs to look at Cummere Mayo's army of alts on voting things on the Jira.
[10:34]	Innula Zenovka 	i'm holding off planning stuff till i know what's happening with the welcome centre
[10:35]	Viale Linden 	ahhh
[10:35]	Ash Weststar 	I don't see it being much different in world.
[10:35]	Counter Landfall 	what is the dependency on the welcome center Innula? (out of curiosity)
[10:36]	Innula Zenovka 	because i see it as a major change, particularly for adult estate sims, and before i plan any promotions i want to talk to the people running it about hooking in with them if i can
[10:37]	Counter Landfall 	ok
[10:37]	Viale Linden 	The Destination Guide and Forum will hopefully remove the need to be so dependent on one ares
[10:37]	Viale Linden 	area
[10:38]	Angela Kahealani 	one area dependency?
[10:38]	Viale Linden 	With Age verification, the destination guide will soon be recommended for age verified adults
[10:38]	Viale Linden 	This will give you all more eyes
[10:39]	Angela Kahealani 	is there any hope to verify age without requiring citizenship at the same time?
[10:39]	Counter Landfall 	speaking of which... the email you talked about Viale, where are you enroute on that?
[10:39]	Innula Zenovka 	how, "recommended"? you mean, after you age verify on the website, you'll be taken to that page?
[10:39]	Ash Weststar 	I thought age verification only required a birthdate now and nothing more?
[10:39]	?????-----o-----?????	payment info
[10:39]	Viale Linden 	Ciorrect Ash
[10:39]	Innula Zenovka 	that's what i thought, Ash
[10:39]	?????-----o-----?????	oh
[10:39]	Viale Linden 	Only age verification
[10:40]	Viale Linden 	let me get the KB article
[10:40]	Innula Zenovka 	you confirm that the birthdate you gave when you registered is, in fact, right
[10:40]	Viale Linden 	http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Age-verification/ta-p/700021
[10:40]	Angela Kahealani 	so you can offer proof of age and age verify withOUT also prooving that you have a bank account?
[10:40]	Innula Zenovka 	yep
[10:41]	Viale Linden 	Email should start soon
[10:41]	Innula Zenovka 	i created an alt test it, Angela.. it's very painless
[10:41]	Counter Landfall 	good, will look forward to that
[10:41]	Innula Zenovka 	an alt to test it
[10:43]	Ash Weststar 	It's not really age verification as much as just filling in a date. There is no actual verification taking place beyond asking the user to be truthful, under my understanding.
[10:43]	Viale Linden 	Ok
[10:43]	Viale Linden 	Not many topics today
[10:43]	Viale Linden 	I will be checking in on the forum
[10:43]	Counter Landfall 	any update on the 4 sims?
[10:44]	Viale Linden 	and you can get in touch with me via email community@lindenlab.com
[10:44]	Viale Linden 	Counter - you mean welcome proposal?
[10:44]	Counter Landfall 	yes
[10:44]	Viale Linden 	Still working out details
[10:44]	Viale Linden 	litlle back in forth
[10:44]	Counter Landfall 	so is it gonna be 2012? ;-))
[10:45]	Viale Linden 	hopefully not
[10:45]	Evelynn Kidd 	lol, 2013?
[10:45]	Viale Linden 	Hopefully sooner
[10:45]	Viale Linden 	However, yopu are all gateways on the destination Guide
[10:45]	Counter Landfall 	we all know the world ends on Dec 21, 2012, haha
[10:46]	Qie 	promises, promises
[10:46]	Viale Linden 	Ha
[10:46]	Zada Bury 	Is that posted on the event-guide, Counter?
[10:46]	Counter Landfall 	brilliant idea Zada
[10:46]	Viale Linden 	Everyn - hopefully the forum will help with your schedule
[10:46]	Counter Landfall 	maybe we shall have a series of parties leading up to that next year
[10:46]	Evelynn Kidd 	yes
[10:47]	Viale Linden 	Lets plan on checking in as a group in 2 wekks
[10:47]	Viale Linden 	weeks
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