Community Tools User Group/24-Feb-2011

Category:Community Tools User Group
== Transcript ==
[13:02]	:	kk, lexie can talk to roles in general and then, once we get hte system up and running, we can look at your role in particular.
[13:02]	:	Hello!
[13:02]	:	hey jeremy!
[13:02]	 	has pinged you.
[13:02]	:	welcome
[13:02]	 	
[13:02]	 	has pinged you.
[13:02]	:	hey angella
[13:02]	:	and torben
[13:02]	 	
[13:02]	 	has pinged you.
[13:02]	:	and elena
[13:02]	:	welcome!
[13:03]	 	
[13:03]	:	ok, here's our agenda for those just joining.
[13:03]	:	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group
[13:03]	 	(torben.trautman): hi Lexie
[13:03]	 	(torben.trautman): hi all
[13:03]	:	any other agenda items?
[13:03]	:	kk, we'll keep this casual. :)
[13:03]	:	first, update on the transition to new community platform.
[13:04]	 	(torben.trautman): oh, itÂ´s Lindens vs. residents today? - I better walk to the other side
[13:04]	:	i can start off and then, lexie, jeremy, join in.
[13:04]	 	has pinged you.
[13:04]	:	silly--no. come sit with me.
[13:04]	 	(torben.trautman): awww :)
[13:04]	:	:)
[13:04]	:	Heh. I don't have anything for the agenda, do I? :-)
[13:04]	:	so, we're in the process of porting the data from the jive system into the new platform.
[13:04]	:	so far, so good.
[13:04]	 	
[13:05]	:	lot sof work to do smoothing out edges, qa'ing, etc.
[13:05]	:	but the team is burning midnight oil to make sure that we hit our date.
[13:05]	 	(torben.trautman): yay :)
[13:05]	:	as you know, the current system is in read-only mode and will be until 3/2
[13:05]	:	jeremy/lexie, anything you want to add?
[13:05]	 	has pinged you.
[13:05]	 	(torben.trautman): and the certificate is no longer valid
[13:05]	 	
[13:05]	:	yeah, we know.
[13:05]	 	(torben.trautman): which causes some confusion :)
[13:06]	:	we are trying to get it renewed for a week until we transition over. sorry for that.
[13:06]	:	it's a pain.
[13:06]	 	you will all like the new system!
[13:06]	:	raymond and fritz are on it.
[13:06]	:	/me doesn't think there are any additional concerns on the doc side at the moment. The import is going quite well!
[13:06]	:	yep, i'm already seeing the system fill in with great content!
[13:07]	:	and the universal search is a dream.
[13:07]	:	quick question
[13:07]	:	sure
[13:07]	 	system does have ranks/roles associated with it. I suggest after we launch, if anyone has thoughts about needed roles/ranks they head over to the feedback area of the Forums and add their thoughts there.
[13:07]	:	are the jive profiles being ported or are the profiles now gonna redirect to my.secondlife...
[13:08]	:	(not the world profiles, the forum ones
[13:08]	:	that's a good question.
[13:08]	:	we jsut starting folks?
[13:08]	:	lexie/jeremy, do you guys know the answer?
[13:08]	 	has pinged you.
[13:08]	 	(bronson.blackadder): yessir
[13:08]	:	yep! here's the agenda bob.
[13:08]	:	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group
[13:09]	:	You haven't missed much, bob. Welcome.
[13:09]	:	transition to new system is going smoothly. so far, so good. everyone has to knock on wood.
[13:09]	:	;)
[13:09]	 	are part of the new system. They are not ported over as a duplicate to Jive profiles.
[13:09]	:	#thanks
[13:09]	 	rolls thanks:
[13:10]	:	okay cool. so one less place to have to hide profiles?
[13:10]	:	Cummere, if I understand your question, I'll say that your profile for the new community system will not be a redirect to your avatar profile. It'll be specific to your community site activity.
[13:10]	:	sorry.
[13:10]	:	oh darn
[13:10]	:	okay
[13:10]	 	have access to the new system, you will click on your name and it takes you directly to the profile page
[13:10]	:	whispers: thought i landed on lexie's head
[13:10]	 	
[13:11]	:	which profile page lexie? community or my.sl?
[13:11]	:	If you click your name, it takes you to your community profile.
[13:11]	 	for the community platform
[13:11]	:	not your my.secondlife profile.
[13:11]	:	ah okay can we get those set to match our settings on our my.sl pages eventually?
[13:11]	 	(arawn.spitteler): Community Profile being the one on the web?
[13:11]	:	yep.
[13:12]	:	great :)
[13:12]	:	any other questiosn about the new community platform?
[13:12]	:	great questions--keep 'em coming!
[13:12]	:	ah, we have fritz!
[13:12]	:	Amanda, do you have plans to promote it??
[13:12]	 	ã‹¡
[13:12]	:	and how?
[13:12]	:	he's the tech guru....
[13:12]	:	no, we have peanuts
[13:13]	:	we are going to put out a post to promote, do an motd, etc.
[13:13]	 	(torben.trautman): I had one question sent to Lexie but time already made it obsolete :)
[13:13]	:	can we get our profiles on the community page to match our sl.ones in terms of settings? like if we hide our my.sl can we hide our community one?
[13:13]	:	my personal experience is new residents just don't get the info
[13:13]	:	they don't notice blogs and MOTD
[13:13]	:	motd is the best way to reach everyone. it's the most powerful tool we have to reach resis
[13:13]	 	(arawn.spitteler): MotD used to be more forward, on the log-in page
[13:13]	:	its oru best shot.
[13:14]	:	perhaps something on the dashboard of the sidebar?
[13:14]	 	mouth is also really good!
[13:14]	:	KK
[13:14]	:	good idea. we can do that!
[13:14]	:	<--have mouth do travel
[13:14]	:	will include that in our plans.
[13:14]	 	
[13:14]	:	a straight in shot to the new pages
[13:14]	 	tab might be useful for that, since its just a webpage anyway
[13:14]	:	Cummere, there's not much to hide in the community profiles; from what I can tell (looking at it now), the only public information will be things like "date registered", "last visited", "total messages posted"... and the rest is private info to help you stay organized.
[13:14]	:	nods, nods
[13:15]	 	(torben.trautman): somewhat like the jira profiles?
[13:15]	:	jeremy userpics?
[13:15]	 	has pinged you.
[13:16]	:	It does not appear so, Cummere.
[13:16]	:	ping jeremy. question...
[13:16]	 	has pinged you.
[13:16]	:	kk
[13:17]	:	/me breaths sigh of relief
[13:17]	:	/me votes we chuck jeremy in the aqter if he goes a fk again
[13:17]	 	has pinged you.
[13:17]	:	userpic is a big one for matching to other info other sites... so if thats not public on this system im happy
[13:17]	:	water*
[13:17]	:	well less unhappy
[13:17]	 	does offer the ability to have some uploaded images that a person can set to viewable by public (if they want)
[13:17]	:	as long as its opt in lexie :)
[13:18]	 	
[13:18]	:	yep. just did that actually.
[13:18]	:	:)
[13:18]	:	playing around with it.
[13:18]	 	burning questions do we have?
[13:18]	 	(torben.trautman): stop teasing ^^
[13:19]	 	
[13:19]	:	ha. torben.
[13:19]	:	sorry.
[13:19]	:	will stop creating community platform envy
[13:19]	:	ha
[13:19]	 	(arawn.spitteler): /me still doesn't know Community Based from my.sl
[13:19]	:	/me is trying to keep a lid on the play-by-play so as to appear to just know these things :-)
[13:19]	:	ill wait for now *smiles* besides ive already filed 2 feature requests so yeah
[13:19]	:	hahaha jeremy :)
[13:19]	 	has pinged you.
[13:19]	:	jeremy is all knowing.
[13:19]	 	has pinged you.
[13:20]	:	I do keep tabs on the SL Knowledge Base!
[13:20]	:	so, fritz is here, everyone should give him a big thank u for all of the hard work he's doing porting the data over.
[13:20]	:	huge amount of work!
[13:20]	:	it has been my pleasure!
[13:20]	 	
[13:20]	:	/me claps.
[13:20]	:	three cheers for fritz.
[13:20]	 	(torben.trautman): WOOOHOOO!!!!
[13:20]	:	Hi all :)
[13:20]	:	/me sends brownies and coffee to Fritz's office
[13:20]	:	/me cheers Fritz
[13:20]	:	hey aki.
[13:20]	:	Hiya Aki.
[13:20]	:	fritz if you happen to lose all the data associated with my name or certain posts made about me by daria theres a bonus in it for you
[13:20]	 	(torben.trautman): and sorry for the GD forums Fritz
[13:21]	 	going to need a refill on some of that midnight oil
[13:21]	 	
[13:21]	:	Strong coffee?
[13:21]	 	
[13:21]	:	questions re: the platform or can we move on to the next item?
[13:21]	:	Swedish...the best
[13:21]	 	
[13:21]	 	(torben.trautman): next :)
[13:21]	 	
[13:21]	:	swedish coffee--will have to seek that out.
[13:21]	 	
[13:22]	:	i have all the questions youre willing to let me ask already :P
[13:22]	:	i heart coffee
[13:22]	:	*have asked
[13:22]	:	kk
[13:22]	:	interesting note: we actually considered pulling all the content in from: http://forums-archive.secondlife.com/-1/1.html
[13:22]	:	Skanerost brygg, Amanda :)
[13:22]	:	thanks lisa. will look that one up.
[13:22]	:	but it didn't work out
[13:22]	:	we have a few swedes in the office...
[13:22]	:	dutch coffee is good
[13:22]	 	be cool to have all the old old forum stuff in the search
[13:23]	:	yeah, it's the biggest data migration that lithium has ever done, right fritz?
[13:23]	:	(we already told folks it's lithium)
[13:23]	 	of the old-old forum archives, then?
[13:23]	 	it is the biggest
[13:23]	:	true, though there's diminishing returns as stuff is getting outdated.
[13:23]	:	definitely the biggest the people we're working with have done... not sure if it is the absolute largest
[13:24]	 	(torben.trautman): letÂ´s give Lithium something to brag with :)
[13:24]	 	sort of the point: it's a huge part of SL's history in there. It needs to be preserved in some form.
[13:24]	:	forums-archive is staying right where it is
[13:24]	 	
[13:24]	:	so its still accessible just not from the new system fritz?
[13:24]	:	yep
[13:24]	 	new lithium search going to be accessable via inworld http request, or will it be like the other stuff on the main sl website
[13:25]	 	to have gotten jive-ified along the way, so I thought it might want to migrate out to something... less license-intensive.
[13:25]	:	ooooo
[13:25]	 	(torben.trautman): now IÂ´m curious what Daria wrote about you Cummere :)
[13:25]	:	there is a ton of fascinating stuff in there, for the historians and tenured residents
[13:25]	:	torben about the same garbage she rights about other people that make it on her hit list
[13:26]	:	*writes
[13:26]	:	second life archiologists....
[13:26]	 	(torben.trautman): oh well, then itÂ´s tlÂ´dr
[13:26]	:	draconis: its not behind a login so it should work if you want to scrape the http pages
[13:26]	 	be very interesting
[13:27]	:	but as always, we ask that you keep your request rate low
[13:27]	:	oh that reminds me... will the lithium pages be openid?
[13:27]	:	yes, they will
[13:27]	 	it was a theoretical question
[13:28]	:	ok.... next item, before sue gets here.
[13:28]	:	wondering if you guys would be interested in creating an inworld group for us--or a twitter feed--to be kept up-to-date on meeting stuff, etc.
[13:28]	:	in world group would work better for me
[13:28]	:	not sure what format you prefer, but it would be good to let you know when meeting notes are posted, etc.
[13:28]	 	to scoot to another meeting. Sorry! Bye for now everyone!
[13:28]	:	bye lexie.
[13:28]	:	I saw that on the agenda and immediately thought, " NO Twitter"
[13:28]	:	tc lexie
[13:28]	:	ha
[13:28]	 	
[13:29]	 	(torben.trautman): bye lexie :)
[13:29]	:	Bye, Lexie :)
[13:29]	:	(i'm sorry to ask this late in the game, but is there an agenda page somewhere? I am not sure if something's been covered and would like to ask about it)
[13:29]	 	(arawn.spitteler): /me doesn't use Twitter: You mean the Doc Group?
[13:29]	:	I have to jump as well. Nice meeting you all
[13:29]	:	I prefer an inworld group
[13:29]	:	/me thinks people are allergic to twitter.
[13:29]	:	/me hates twitter
[13:29]	:	amanda you have no idea
[13:29]	:	it would have better visibility
[13:29]	:	for this group--the communication tools group.
[13:29]	 	
[13:29]	 	(torben.trautman): as much as I like twitter... now that we can have that many groups IÂ´d vote for that
[13:29]	:	ok, all in favor of an inworld group say aye.
[13:29]	:	aye
[13:29]	:	aye
[13:29]	 	(torben.trautman): aye
[13:29]	:	aye
[13:30]	:	Aki: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group
[13:30]	:	aye
[13:30]	 	(arawn.spitteler): If we're swapping the Doc Hour for User Tools UG, why form a new group?
[13:30]	:	all against the idea and have another one, say nay and what you would like to see....
[13:30]	:	ah ok, thanks :)
[13:30]	:	ok, the aye's have it.
[13:30]	:	nay: return to doc office hour format! (j/k)
[13:31]	:	think that the docs list is for other topics.
[13:31]	:	perhaps a notice to Doc Hour usergroup to tell them to migrate if they wish...
[13:31]	:	To be honest, it doesn't see much action (if it's the one I think we're talking about)
[13:31]	:	ok, will create the group and send invites to everyone here and post on our page.
[13:31]	:	good idea.
[13:31]	:	feel free to do that, i'm not in that group
[13:31]	:	I'm not either
[13:31]	:	thanks lisa--good idea.
[13:32]	:	You can join long enough to do that, though :)
[13:32]	:	/me is already running out of groups again ><
[13:32]	:	kk, will do then.
[13:32]	:	(I suppose you can)
[13:32]	:	thanks guys.
[13:32]	:	ok, we have about 10 mins before sue comes in.
[13:32]	:	open forum.
[13:32]	 	it would be evil to tweet if there's an update folks should know about, about the user group.
[13:32]	:	I think I should have power to post a notice to "Second Life Documentation"
[13:32]	:	true...but should also send notice...don't assume we all tweet
[13:33]	:	Jon made the group though, so if I don't, we're in trouble :-)
[13:33]	 	
[13:33]	 	(torben.trautman): I use Twitter only for SecondLie :)
[13:33]	:	that's why i asked> :)
[13:33]	:	amanda any word or rumor about if content creators are going to get an official usergroup?
[13:33]	:	pinged today on that...
[13:33]	:	talking to kim today on that topic (my boss--vp of marketing)
[13:33]	:	should have more news next week.
[13:34]	:	good question, i've gotten lots of requests for that one.
[13:34]	:	okay well theres like two unofficial ones right now but it would be better to have an official one
[13:34]	:	Ok - i have a question regarding the transaction record and the information it provides; the current record only shows display name and not account name. I noticed account names were added recently to the Friends List section on the website - could we see the addition of account names to the transaction record as well? (Sorry, i'm not sure if this is better suited to community tools or commerce)
[13:34]	:	transaction record?
[13:34]	:	The current lack of account names on the transaction record is leading to some issues for me when sending out updates or redeliveries.
[13:34]	:	like linden dollar purchases or inworld purchases?
[13:34]	:	inworld purchases.
[13:34]	 	(arawn.spitteler): What differentiates Tool Users from Documentation?
[13:34]	:	inworld and marketplace purchases amanda
[13:35]	:	Ow...you mean transaction history is not using account name?
[13:35]	:	it is not.
[13:35]	:	nope it uses display name
[13:35]	:	for god only knows why
[13:35]	:	interesting. i'll bring that back to the viewer team. good point.
[13:35]	:	Oh, that's not good
[13:35]	 	bout kelly's usergroup, he said he just had t(s) to cross and i(s) to dot?
[13:35]	:	and when some folks are changing their display names once a week, getting them to prove they bought something is a pain.
[13:35]	:	not sure that should go to viewer... its a web issue
[13:35]	:	And perhaps explains why I couldn't find someone the other day.
[13:36]	:	There's a JIRA for it: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-3321
[13:36]	:	thanks aki.
[13:36]	:	i'll pass it along to web/viewer folks.
[13:36]	:	Thanks :)
[13:36]	:	yeah, it's a good catch/
[13:36]	:	kelly's usergroup is on my kim list too today.
[13:36]	:	he would run the scripters user group
[13:37]	:	but, need to run it up the flagpole
[13:37]	:	the transaction hsitory using display names its been brought up at the commerce hour... but yeah i think that may need to go to yoz or whoever is handling general web issues
[13:37]	:	and, the docs user group does not exist any more.
[13:37]	:	it's this user group now.
[13:38]	:	or the docs office hours... is now this user group, with expanded scope.
[13:38]	:	/me nods.
[13:38]	:	amanda is there going to be a policy group?
[13:38]	:	thats another one heavily asked for
[13:38]	:	no, there will not be.
[13:38]	 	(arawn.spitteler): Is Documentation showing, as my active group? My viewer isn't showing
[13:38]	:	:(
[13:38]	:	Yes, Arawn.
[13:38]	:	cummere--better to get a stragith answer, right?
[13:38]	:	"Slexicographer", which was the group title.
[13:39]	 	(arawn.spitteler): I should dump that title, for the new group?
[13:39]	:	/me likes straight answers, easier to read than wonky
[13:39]	:	yeah but theres still not a way for users to really get or give good feedback abotu policy stuff
[13:39]	:	Once there is a new group, Arawn, probably. I'll try to send out a group notice once the new group goes up.
[13:39]	:	that's not something that we are going to create a group for, sorry.
[13:40]	:	lemme see if i can track down sue.
[13:40]	 	(arawn.spitteler): /me recalls that there's a Linden Lab Haters Group
[13:40]	 	(torben.trautman): /me wonders if Lindens can force TP other Lindens
[13:40]	 	(arawn.spitteler): It started one wednesday morn
[13:40]	 	if they are in godmode i would imagine
[13:41]	:	/me has seen some rather hilarious results proving the answer.
[13:41]	:	torben i dunno about if they are both in godmode, but i know if one is and one isnt the one in can
[13:41]	 	(torben.trautman): hehe I bet
[13:41]	:	giggles
[13:41]	:	sue is on her way. get your jira questions ready!
[13:41]	 	(arawn.spitteler): Godmode should give TP Choices
[13:41]	:	Hi Sue!
[13:41]	 	(sue.linden): oh dear... i need more cooffeee
[13:42]	 	(torben.trautman): looks like Sue came voluntarily :)
[13:42]	:	hey sue!
[13:42]	 	
[13:42]	:	/me passes out the Skanerost
[13:42]	 	(sue.linden): /me waves
[13:42]	 	(torben.trautman): hi Sue :)
[13:42]	:	Welcome!
[13:42]	:	(swedish coffee--sue)
[13:42]	:	Hi Sue :)
[13:42]	:	we just discussed its merits.
[13:42]	:	hey so, folks--sue has joined us to help answer your jira questions from last week.
[13:42]	 	(sue.linden): are we in voice? or just text?
[13:42]	:	fire away , as they say
[13:42]	:	jsut text
[13:43]	:	hey sue got a load of jira questions i was hoping to catch you last friday for *wicked grin*
[13:43]	 	(sue.linden): /me removes headset and gets more comfy
[13:43]	 	(arawn.spitteler): Voice is hard to document
[13:43]	:	no voice dots here anyway
[13:43]	 	(sue.linden): ok. just checking i wasn;t missing something. :)
[13:43]	:	yeah, voice disabled
[13:44]	:	you don't wanna hear me, belive m e, singing along to bruce speingsteen atm
[13:44]	:	crickets?
[13:44]	:	im asusming sue hasnt seen teh agenda so agenda item : Jira moderation feature for reporting abusive posts?
[13:44]	 	(sue.linden): I've raised that to the team in charge of tools.
[13:44]	 	(torben.trautman): and/or abusive posters (like people doing edit wars)
[13:45]	 	(arawn.spitteler): Wouldn't edit wars be more wiki? Have those happened yet?
[13:45]	 	(sue.linden): I am not officially on that team anymore so can't make any decisions. But has anyone looked for plugins? I should see if there is one
[13:45]	:	I wouldnt know where to look tbh sue
[13:45]	 	(sue.linden): plugins.atlassian.com (is what I'm referring to)
[13:45]	 	(arawn.spitteler): Buggy SLPlugin.exe?
[13:45]	 	(torben.trautman): Arawn: VWR-24746 is a great example
[13:45]	:	ah okay ill try looking there
[13:46]	 	(torben.trautman): people closing and reopening this frequently
[13:46]	 	(arawn.spitteler): URL?
[13:46]	 	(torben.trautman): https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24746
[13:46]	 	(torben.trautman): though itÂ´s a horrible example for Jira
[13:46]	:	lots of abuse from both sides of that too, though one side far more then the other...
[13:47]	:	sue, we should talk offline re: moderation.
[13:47]	 	persistent fool keeps trying to close that particular jira
[13:47]	 	(arawn.spitteler): Shouldn't that be an SEC Issue?
[13:47]	 	(sue.linden): are there any other quesitons besides goverance?
[13:47]	:	there might be a way for us to manually tie moderation between the new platform and jira.
[13:47]	:	yeah actually
[13:48]	 	(sue.linden): as amanda said, I am not the one to make a call on who to remove jira privileges and when to reinstate
[13:48]	 	(torben.trautman): Sue, is there a way to exclude LindenrobotÂ´s comments from the mailing list?
[13:48]	 	(sue.linden): hum.... good question.
[13:48]	 	(torben.trautman): sometimes I have like 200 comments over night with changesets
[13:48]	:	can we get a jira helper like role for snowstorm contributers and testers? or open up the existing os contributor role to testers?
[13:48]	 	(sue.linden): at the moment, it's set up to email all comments
[13:49]	 	(torben.trautman): ok, so filter is the answer :)
[13:49]	:	torben there is not... believe me oz looked into it
[13:49]	 	(arawn.spitteler): Selective Twit Mode might be useful, for the less tolerant
[13:49]	 	(torben.trautman): hehe ok
[13:49]	 	(sue.linden): i think so :( sorry ... the notification system is "event triggered"
[13:49]	 	(sue.linden): so it's set up to email when a "comment event" happens
[13:49]	 	(sue.linden): i can ask the lnidenrobot dev about it ... see if a workaround
[13:49]	 	(torben.trautman): I think itÂ´s safe to filter lindenrobot to trash
[13:50]	 	(sue.linden): :)
[13:50]	 	(torben.trautman): was just curious
[13:50]	:	how's rodders settled in? nowt since his last post
[13:50]	:	on hte blog**
[13:50]	 	(sue.linden): cummere - reading back to your question. technically, yes. but not sure who to set up and maintain
[13:51]	:	bob--he's settling in well.
[13:51]	 	(sue.linden): i think Oz would be my first stop
[13:51]	:	i'm going to start working with him on another update on the blog next month.
[13:51]	 	(sue.linden): (about jira premissions in snowstorm)
[13:51]	:	but he's done a lot of press....
[13:51]	:	whispers: good :)
[13:51]	:	i read that, but it all looks goos
[13:51]	:	good*
[13:51]	 	(torben.trautman): sue, I didnÂ´t see any moderation tool in the jira documentation
[13:51]	:	oz is swamped and tried to get me added to the existing contributors role but i think my ca was rejected
[13:51]	:	great to get his take.perspective.
[13:52]	 	(sue.linden): ca?
[13:52]	 	(sue.linden): ^ cummere?
[13:52]	:	contributors agreement
[13:52]	 	(sue.linden): oh
[13:52]	 	(sue.linden): ok
[13:52]	 	(torben.trautman): Is there a way to silently delete comments?
[13:53]	 	(torben.trautman): for admins that is
[13:53]	 	(sue.linden): /me thinking
[13:53]	 	(sue.linden): let me look at something
[13:53]	 	(torben.trautman): right now they still show up in the history
[13:53]	 	(arawn.spitteler): You mean like Muting?
[13:53]	 	(torben.trautman): no I mean deleting a comment so it canÂ´t be seen anymore
[13:54]	:	(you can in blogs/forums, etc.)
[13:54]	:	as an admin
[13:54]	 	(arawn.spitteler): In which context?
[13:54]	 	(torben.trautman): in the JIRA
[13:54]	 	(torben.trautman): example:
[13:54]	 	(torben.trautman): someone posted a link to CummereÂ´s facebook
[13:54]	 	(arawn.spitteler): Can't we delete and edit our postings, in Jira?
[13:54]	 	(torben.trautman): admin deleted it but it can still be seen in the history
[13:55]	:	its still seen in the history yeah
[13:55]	 	be nice to be able to delete our own jiras, i have some from 2007 that arnt relevent anymore
[13:55]	 	(arawn.spitteler): /nme wants a link to Cummere's FB: Sounds like an oversight
[13:55]	 	(sue.linden): yeah, i'm not seeing how not to have it in he history
[13:55]	:	wasnt to my fb it was to the widget
[13:55]	 	(sue.linden): draconis ... you can't mark as "won't finish" or something?
[13:56]	:	you can close it, can't you??
[13:56]	 	would think just getting rid of it for clutter purposes would be better
[13:56]	:	it may have historical significance
[13:56]	:	closing it we can do deleting we cannot
[13:57]	:	im not worried abotu deleting jiras too much though theres some we could .... i would like to see deleted comments actually deleted :-/
[13:57]	:	or at least hidden
[13:58]	 	(sue.linden): you should be able to delete your own comments (just checked the permissions) but as for not showing up in the history ... i'm looking at jira docs and not seeing how to remove that
[13:58]	 	(torben.trautman): Sue, what if you set the comment to viewable by Lindens and Reporter?
[13:58]	 	(sue.linden): that would work! (though i'd want to test)
[13:58]	 	(torben.trautman): then it would be gone from history and invisible :)
[13:58]	 	(sue.linden): smart
[13:58]	 	(sue.linden): !
[13:58]	 	(arawn.spitteler): Should be a color flash, on that.
[13:59]	:	btw discorvery just lifted off on its last mission
[13:59]	 	(arawn.spitteler): I've hit a few ban-lines the parcel owner never intended.
[13:59]	:	hey guys, looks liek we're at the end of our time!
[13:59]	:	thanks so much for another great session...
[13:59]	:	That went fast
[14:00]	:	and thank jeremy and sue for joinng!
[14:00]	 	has pinged you.
[14:00]	 	(sue.linden): I'll suggest the "linden and reporter" comment to people
[14:00]	:	Lots of good info here!
[14:00]	:	lots of great info.
[14:00]	 	(torben.trautman): yay, back to work :)
[14:00]	:	Amanda, would you like me to log this transcript, since Rand isn't here?
[14:00]	:	i'm going to grab the chat and have rand put up when he gets back from vaca.
[14:00]	:	yeah...
[14:00]	:	that would be ossm!!!
[14:00]	:	Thanks for the session :)
 
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