Bug triage/2008-09-15/Transcript

* [12:04] Nya Linden: 
* [12:05] Nya Linden: first up: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2756
* [12:05] Alexa Linden: Second Life 1.18.3 (5)
* [12:06] Nya Linden: I feel like this is a dup. Attachments getting lost after teleport?
* [12:06] Aimee Trescothick: yeah, that's an oldie
* [12:06] Gellan Glenelg: comment from 10 sept is on 1.21 tho
* [12:06] Alexa Linden: yes
* [12:06] Aimee Trescothick: does still happen though
* [12:07] Bridie Linden: dupe of SVC-2743 ?
* [12:07] Bridie Linden: That one has 123 votes
* [12:07] Bridie Linden: *1232
* [12:07] Twisted Laws: seems you'd have to see the scripts in one of the huds in the recent comments to solve the issue
* [12:07] Bridie Linden: *132
* [12:07] Bridie Linden: has fat fingers today
* [12:08] Alexa Linden: and is imported
* [12:08] Nya Linden: and is closed as can't repro internally. do we want to reopen?
* [12:08] Bridie Linden: If there's a good repro, we could reopen
* [12:09] Nya Linden: I thought soft was working on one of these...
* [12:09] Nya Linden: is looking
* [12:10] Nya Linden: hm. can't find.
* [12:11] Nya Linden: so it seems like it happens most with scripted items?
* [12:11] Twisted Laws: it looks to me that the last (new comments on 2756) are probably not the same problem as the earlier comments
* [12:12] Aimee Trescothick: not sure, that's where it's most noticable
* [12:12] Nya Linden: I vote we reopen internal and ask to repro with scripted items, and mark 2745 as a dup.
* [12:12] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:12] Bridie Linden: nods
* [12:12] Alexa Linden: dup of SVC-2743
* [12:12] Aimee Trescothick: as you don't generally know otherwise unless someone tells you or you try to detach and it won't
* [12:12] Alexa Linden: reopen internal
* [12:13] Squirrel Wood: /ao off
* [12:13] Nya Linden: next! https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2934
* [12:14] Gellan Glenelg: Dupe of ?
* [12:14] Alexa Linden: yup
* [12:14] Alexandrea Fride: yes
* [12:14] Nya Linden: that was easy.
* [12:14] Nya Linden: next - https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1402
* [12:15] Bridie Linden: I commented on that one not too long ago
* [12:15] Nya Linden: do we want to wait for a response to bridie's comments?
* [12:15] Alexa Linden: I would
* [12:16] Alexa Linden: I can put last triaged date on this and see if it's still a problem
* [12:16] Aimee Trescothick: I've had it happen on a single monitor before
* [12:16] Alexandrea Fride: on multiple monitors? (i have seen that one on myself to) and dont use multiple monitors
* [12:16] Alexa Linden: I have too
* [12:16] Alexa Linden: I can never repro
* [12:17] Alexa Linden: and it's totally random
* [12:17] Alexa Linden: only one monitor
* [12:17] Alexa Linden: rebake fixes it
* [12:17] Nya Linden: would love to find a repro for this one.
* [12:17] Nya Linden: so let's wait on it and next we have: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-5949
* [12:18] Alexa Linden: Last Triaged: 17/Aug/08 03:28 PM
* [12:18] Squirrel Wood: re: black eyes - could it be a texture failing to load from the server in time?
* [12:18] Twisted Laws: would sound like that to me, squirrel
* [12:19] Aimee Trescothick: "Object 'Soul' missing from asset server"
* [12:19] Twisted Laws: on 5949, one of the comments there is using older opengl
* [12:19] Nya Linden: ha. creepy!
* [12:21] Twisted Laws: i run a very similar version of system on vista for a long time... keeping all components and video drivers up to date, i've no longer have the memory leak and figured u guys fixed it
* [12:21] Nya Linden: I know we've tried to repro internally and haven't been able to.
* [12:21] Alexandrea Fride: agrees with Twister
* [12:22] Alexandrea Fride: had it on privius versions to, and seems to be gone now no updates on drivers where done
* [12:22] Twisted Laws: last person in sandboxes talking about that i recommended a video driver update and it seemed to fix their problem, not sure of what they had now tho :(
* [12:22] Nya Linden: yeah.. I'm noticing an NVIDIA trend in this issue..
* [12:23] Twisted Laws: CPU: Intel Core 2 Series Processor (1662 MHz)
* Memory: 3070 MB
* OS Version: Microsoft Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)
* Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
* Graphics Card: GeForce 8600M GS/PCI/SSE2
* OpenGL Version: 2.1.2
* [12:23] Twisted Laws: this is mine and problem was gone with last driver update
* [12:23] Nya Linden: okay. let's recommend an update of the drivers and see if this comes back to us again.
* [12:24] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:24] Nya Linden: thanks for the info Twisted!
* [12:24] Twisted Laws: yw
* [12:24] Alexa Linden: yes, thanks :)
* [12:24] Nya Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2710
* [12:24] Nya Linden: on with the show!
* [12:25] Squirrel Wood: did we not have that one last week?
* [12:25] Nya Linden: yes...
* [12:25] Alexa Linden: I asked to be notified when it was updated
* [12:25] Alexa Linden: since there's no way I'd know :P
* [12:25] Nya Linden: I think we just put a last triaged on this one.
* [12:25] Alexa Linden: yup - we can move on
* [12:25] Nya Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8049
* [12:26] Squirrel Wood: votes for import ^^
* [12:26] Gellan Glenelg: +1
* [12:26] Alexandrea Fride: vote to
* [12:26] Alexa Linden: yup
* [12:26] Twisted Laws: i'd make it a debug setting
* [12:26] Nya Linden: yep!
* [12:27] Twisted Laws: 90% of people wouldn't want ot mess with it (or maybe more)
* [12:28] Nya Linden: okay.. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7011
* [12:28] Gellan Glenelg: this is old (1.20 RC)
* [12:28] Alexandrea Fride: and still hapening
* [12:28] Alexa Linden: still a problem with latest rc?
* [12:28] Alexandrea Fride: yes
* [12:29] Bridie Linden: orly?
* [12:30] Alexa Linden: QA to repro?
* [12:30] Nya Linden: yeah.. I wish we had a better repro case, though..
* [12:30] Nya Linden: I'm guessing we won't be able to figure it out just based on this.
* [12:30] Alexandrea Fride: randoms... :/
* [12:30] Gellan Glenelg: there's no indication that it's a problem in 1.20 release or later. I'd ask the OP
* [12:31] Nya Linden: Alexandrea - did you want to comment that you are still seeing this and put in your environment to help QA?
* [12:31] Alexandrea Fride: k
* [12:31] Alexa Linden: thanks :)
* [12:31] Nya Linden: tyvm!
* [12:32] Nya Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1847
* [12:33] Nya Linden: grumbles. I keep trying to zoom in on firefox and it doesn't seem to work! heh.
* [12:33] Alexa Linden: dang innerwebz!
* [12:33] Bridie Linden: keeps trying to zoom in RL...
* [12:33] Aimee Trescothick: I'm for ever trying to alt-cam round the sides of images lol
* [12:34] Nya Linden: srsly. alt-cam ftw.
* [12:34] Alyx Stoklitsky: Lindens aren't allowed to use those words.
* [12:34] Nya Linden: ahem.
* [12:35] Aimee Trescothick: lol
* [12:35] Nya Linden: I mean. Yes. alt-cam is what I try to use in my everyday endeavors.
* [12:35] Aimee Trescothick: hmm, alt-cam sounds like something you'd use to find out what your alts were up to when you weren't around
* [12:35] Alexandrea Fride: lmao
* [12:36] Alexa Linden: I don't want to know
* [12:36] Aimee Trescothick: :D
* [12:36] Joeseph Albanese: No wonder my pockets are alway lite
* [12:36] Alexa Linden: <.<
* [12:36] Alexa Linden: >.>
* [12:36] Alexa Linden: gum!
* [12:37] Nya Linden: import viewer
* [12:37] Alexa Linden: I'll import this one
* [12:37] Nya Linden: go alexa go!
* [12:37] Alexa Linden: jinx
* [12:37] Nya Linden: when in doubt, send it to someone else.
* [12:37] Nya Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1685
* [12:38] Nya Linden: well.... that seems like an import.
* [12:38] Aimee Trescothick: yup
* [12:38] Alexa Linden: agreed
* [12:38] Aimee Trescothick: beta grid is about doing stuff to see what breaks
* [12:38] Twisted Laws: just say no
* [12:38] Aimee Trescothick: no one better at that than teens :D
* [12:39] Alexandrea Fride: YAY!
* [12:39] Nya Linden: heh.
* [12:39] Twisted Laws: well it could be a beta of kids interacting with adults.....
* [12:39] Joeseph Albanese: That reaks of trouble lol
* [12:40] Alyx Stoklitsky: brb fbi
* [12:40] Nya Linden: and on to voice! https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7132
* [12:40] Alexa Linden: lol
* [12:40] Aimee Trescothick: well, I'd say give them a region or two rather than a mixed beta grid
* [12:40] Alexa Linden: log off now!
* [12:40] Nya Linden: lol
* [12:41] Alexa Linden: I would say needs more info
* [12:41] Alexa Linden: since no updates since ellla's post
* [12:41] Bridie Linden: nods
* [12:42] Nya Linden: oookay.. on to https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-996
* [12:42] Alexa Linden: no updates since feb.
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: still a problem with latest rc?
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: NMI?
* [12:43] Gellan Glenelg: I can't repro it
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: me neither
* [12:43] Gellan Glenelg: on any version of client / server
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: I always have HUDs on
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: same
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: 2-3 min.
* [12:43] Nya Linden: but are they SCRIPTED, Alexa? :)
* [12:43] Alexandrea Fride: 996 easy to repo, to fast loging in (if you login while avatar is still in sim)
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: yup
* [12:43] Joeseph Albanese: Possibly crashing before logout?
* [12:44] Twisted Laws: not really a problem, the user server thinks you are in a server that is not responding to requests to see if you are really there
* [12:44] Gellan Glenelg: no, alexandrea, it doesn't repro for me, however fast i restart Sl
* [12:44] Twisted Laws: happens often when a sim is lagged very bad
* [12:44] Alexandrea Fride: not if using logout
* [12:45] Alexandrea Fride: only if you crach and login
* [12:45] Twisted Laws: yes
* [12:45] Alexandrea Fride: if you crach, and you login you get region logigng you out
* [12:45] Kiosk: SL: Open Source Developer Info whispers: Thank you! Your items will be delivered to you soon!
* [12:45] Alexandrea Fride: if you then relogin in around same 5sec
* [12:46] Alexandrea Fride: you get the 5min time waiting
* [12:46] Squirrel Wood: If I log out and immediately back in I also get this
* [12:46] Gellan Glenelg: actually, is this a dupe of https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-583 (already imported)?
* [12:46] Squirrel Wood: at least the one messsage that says the system is still logging you out
* [12:47] Alexa Linden: Gold Sarts for Gellan!
* [12:47] Bridie Linden: yay!
* [12:47] Squirrel Wood: I think we need a sart dispenser here
* [12:47] Bridie Linden: grins
* [12:47] Joeseph Albanese: lol
* [12:48] Alexandrea Fride: :p
* [12:48] Cummere Mayo: ok's sorry im late I FINALLY have pwoer and got enough trees out of our yard to be able to get into my resedence
* [12:48] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-600
* [12:48] Joeseph Albanese: Oh spoken like a true addict.
* [12:49] Alexa Linden: this is from april
* [12:49] Alexa Linden: not sure if it's still a problem
* [12:51] Nya Linden: we can either pull to QA to repro (it's quick) or ask the reporter if it's still an issue.
* [12:51] Nya Linden: either way is fine.
* [12:51] Alexa Linden: ok - I'll ask
* [12:51] Alexa Linden: we're getting into oldies
* [12:51] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-5773
* [12:51] Cummere Mayo: Ild ask the reporter just cuase qa already has a ton on their plate. (and lately seems to have lost some of it ><)
* [12:52] Gellan Glenelg: this is a dupe too - from a LONG time ago
* [12:52] Alexa Linden: yup
* [12:52] Cummere Mayo: i havent had that trouble with .20 or .21 has anyone else?
* [12:52] Alexa Linden: I normally saw it as a side "fog" bar
* [12:53] Alexandrea Fride: never had trouble with that
* [12:53] Alexa Linden: I'll find the old one and link up
* [12:53] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-374
* [12:53] Alexa Linden: also old
* [12:53] Alexa Linden: and land store/auction has changed since then
* [12:54] Cummere Mayo: yes but this is still true
* [12:54] Cummere Mayo: and annoying
* [12:54] Alexa Linden: pulls it up.....
* [12:54] Alexa Linden: I think I've seen a dup of this
* [12:54] Cummere Mayo: I had recent expereinces and frustrations trying to buy out the lot behind me
* [12:55] Alexa Linden: I'll find the dup and link up
* [12:55] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-365
* [12:55] Cummere Mayo: if the dupe is marked fixed please reopen
* [12:56] Alexa Linden: want to import this to make sure it's been fixed?
* [12:56] Nya Linden: yep
* [12:56] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:56] Cummere Mayo: spellign error is still there
* [12:56] Cummere Mayo: *spelling ><
* [12:57] Alexandrea Fride: Warning: Error in parsing value for property 'background-color'. Declaration dropped.
* Source File: http://secondlife.com/_styles/MAIN.css?v=080806
* Line: 153
* [12:57] Alexandrea Fride: Warning: Error in parsing value for property 'height'. Declaration dropped.
* Source File: http://secondlife.com/_styles/MAIN.css?v=080806
* Line: 977
* [12:57] Alexandrea Fride: are ones i see in ff
* [12:57] Nya Linden: Alexandrea - did you want to add those to the issue?
* [12:58] Nya Linden: wait.. where's the spelling error there?
* [12:58] Alexa Linden: then I'll import it
* [12:58] Nya Linden: questions her reading comprehension.
* [12:58] Alexandrea Fride: can be but those are just warnings
* [12:58] Alexandrea Fride: and no spelling error
* [12:59] Nya Linden: ah.. I think that would be a separate issue then.
* [12:59] Cummere Mayo: if you oppen the ccs page
* [12:59] Cummere Mayo: and run a search for the mispellelled version of display it still shows
* [12:59] Alexandrea Fride: i cannot find it
* [13:00] Alexa Linden: that's it for this hour
* [13:00] Alexa Linden: thank you everyone for you help :D
* [13:00] Alexa Linden: and see some of you Weds.
* [13:00] Nya Linden: thank you!