Bug triage/2009-10-07/Transcript

* [13:58] Multi Gadget: v1.57.1 by Timeless Prototype
* [13:58] Female Anim: Overide Set 2 (cnt) - Abranimations: Following commands available '/1help', '/1ao on', '/1ao off, '/1ao reset', '/1ao hide', '/1ao show''
* [13:59] Connecting to: in-world Voice Chat...
* [13:59] Connected undefined: 
* [13:59] Teleport completed: from 
* [13:59] Latif Khalifa: so fisher, this is your own first official OH? ;)
* [13:59] Connecting to: in-world Voice Chat...
* [13:59] Connected undefined: 
* [13:59] Fisher Linden: lol
* [13:59] Fisher Linden: not a chance
* [13:59] Fisher Linden: You guys scare me
* [13:59] Fisher Linden: I need professionals nearby
* [13:59] Alexa Linden: the sign is a lie!!!!
* [13:59] Latif Khalifa: heheh
* [13:59] Moon Metty: it's a conspiracy
* [13:59] Alexa Linden: that too
* [13:59] Moon Metty: the owls are not what they seem
* [13:59] Alexa Linden: so who brought the snacks?
* [14:00] Moon Metty: hi alexa :)
* [14:00] Alexa Linden: Hi Moon :D
* [14:00] Latif Khalifa: lol i am so feminine in this chair ;)
* [14:00] Moon Metty: Davy :)
* [14:00] Davy Linden: hi
* [14:00] Alexa Linden: wanna switch?
* [14:00] Alexa Linden: lol
* [14:00] Latif Khalifa: hahaha
* [14:01] Latif Khalifa: i'll survive :P
* [14:01] Moon Metty: hi Bambers :)
* [14:01] Bambers Linden: hi everyone
* [14:01] Liisa Runo: nice boots Alexa :P too bad i dont have the power to kill the scripts in them
* [14:01] Moon Metty: feeling better?
* [14:01] Alexa Linden: Hi Bambers :)
* [14:02] Latif Khalifa: heh that bug is killing me sometiems alexa
* [14:02] Bambers Linden: hi Moon - yes thanks - waaaaay better
* [14:02] Latif Khalifa: when you start typing you appear to float above the seat
* [14:02] Moon Metty: hehe cool
* [14:02] Latif Khalifa: and the sitting animation stops
* [14:02] Davy Linden: hi bambers
* [14:02] Bambers Linden: davy! hi
* [14:02] Alexa Linden: On today's menu we have
* [14:02] Alexa Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda
* [14:03] Bambers Linden: heh - nice jacket Davy
* [14:03] Davy Linden: hehe
* [14:03] Dessie Linden: hiya everyone!
* [14:03] Alexa Linden: Hey Dessie
* [14:03] Moon Metty: hi Dessie :)
* [14:03] Techwolf Lupindo: (waiting for wiki to responded)
* [14:03] Davy Linden: me too :(
* [14:03] Bambers Linden: ditto - seems to be having a problem
* [14:03] Kaluura Boa: Very slow...
* [14:04] Moon Metty: the page doesn't refresh for me, but i alraedy had it up
* [14:04] Liisa Runo: it is always very slow
* [14:04] Bambers Linden: Alexa - do you see the page ok? We could paste until wiki feels better
* [14:04] Dessie Linden: Gee, Alexa... you look much more casual than you did earlier today. xD
* [14:04] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-15738
* [14:04] [[User:JIRA-helper: [#VWR-15738|JIRA-helper: [#VWR-15738]]: 
* [14:04] Techwolf Lupindo: The wiki can scale...look at wikipidiea. So the slowness can be fixed. :-)
* [14:04] Bambers Linden: yeah! Workarounds FTW! Until bugs are fixed of course....
* [14:05] Moon Metty: i uploaded a 64x64 before the meeting
* [14:05] Moon Metty: it came out well
* [14:05] Moon Metty: lossless
* [14:05] Dirk Talamasca: Been workin around 5 years now
* [14:05] Bambers Linden: this is newly reported though. SL Viewer?
* [14:05] Moon Metty: the grey edges maybe come from the texture not loading to full discard level
* [14:06] Latif Khalifa: sasy both snowglobe 1.1 and official 1.23
* [14:06] Bambers Linden: possibly. Has anybody else seen this?
* [14:06] Davy Linden: it repros for me, using the attached texture
* [14:07] Bambers Linden: aah, ok. Anything special about the texture?
* [14:07] Yann Dufaux: hi all sorry for this interupt 
* [14:07] Bambers Linden: hi :)
* [14:07] Dessie Linden: hey Yann
* [14:08] Latif Khalifa: yeah it repros
* [14:08] Alexa Linden: so davy you can repro
* [14:08] Bambers Linden: ok, should we import or send to Snowglobe triage?
* [14:08] Latif Khalifa: strange
* [14:08] Latif Khalifa: i can too
* [14:08] Alexa Linden: do we want to import to test
* [14:08] Moon Metty: :)
* [14:08] Yann Dufaux: hey hello Dessie 
* [14:08] Alexa Linden: I can ask robla about it too
* [14:08] Latif Khalifa: the attached image repros the problem
* [14:08] Moon Metty: hehe
* [14:08] Latif Khalifa: funky, i have uploaded a lot of sculpts, have not noticed a problem
* [14:09] Bambers Linden: ok, let's do that. We see a repro but I'm wondering where it'd get fixed
* [14:09] Moon Metty: pretty strange, yes
* [14:09] Yann Dufaux: hi fisher 
* [14:09] Davy Linden: there's the (lossless) testure, offset so you can see the grey
* [14:09] Bambers Linden: hi fisher !
* [14:09] Alexa Linden: importing then
* [14:09] Bambers Linden: okey dokey
* [14:09] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4895
* [14:09] [[User:JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4895|JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4895]]: 
* [14:09] Bambers Linden: neeeeeeeeeeeext...
* [14:10] Bambers Linden: test on Alexa's boots!
* [14:10] Alexa Linden: eyes bambers......
* [14:10] Bambers Linden: sorry
* [14:10] Imaze Rhiano: humm..
* [14:10] Dessie Linden: the belt would prolly be better... :o)
* [14:11] Alexa Linden: belt has no scripts
* [14:11] Bambers Linden: reported as server... is this def server only?
* [14:11] Dessie Linden: d'oh!
* [14:11] Moon Metty: i tried SVC-4895 today
* [14:11] Tegg Bode: Hmm we are testing how well they merge with a chair on a molecular level or are the boots actually half a chair each side? 
* [14:11] Moon Metty: but i realized it would be a long test, so i stopped
* [14:11] Latif Khalifa: i know that the viewer does not work if you inject scripts into child prims with a script
* [14:11] Can't rez: object 'SKINNY Chunky Ribbon Boot calf - black (left)' at { 78.5958, 84.1115, 350.846 } on parcel 'Linden Village - Bambers Linden' in region Denby because the owner of this land does not allow it. Use the land tool to see land ownership.
* [14:12] Bambers Linden: the thing it's missing is a nice straightforward repro
* [14:12] Entering god: mode, level 150
* [14:12] Imaze Rhiano: he is linking primitives with scripts and then trying to reset scripts in linked object?
* [14:12] Latif Khalifa: you need to re-rez object before reset/recompile/set running will work
* [14:12] Alexa Linden: mah boot... let me show you
* [14:13] Liisa Runo: 19 scripts to do the job of one... (sent IM to creator today)
* [14:13] Bambers Linden: Latif - you think that's what the reporter is running foul of?
* [14:14] Moon Metty: i don't think it is Bambers
* [14:14] Bambers Linden: hmm
* [14:14] Latif Khalifa: after re-reding his report, no
* [14:14] Moon Metty: what Latif is talking about is some security thing
* [14:14] Latif Khalifa: its not security its a bug ;)
* [14:14] Moon Metty: which noone seems to understand lol
* [14:15] Bambers Linden: :) do we need more info? or do we have suggestions?
* [14:15] Moon Metty: more testing ...
* [14:15] Moon Metty: it could be a wonky asset server
* [14:16] Techwolf Lupindo: Is there a bug filed for what Latif is talking about? If so, link. If not, add more info or file a new bug.
* [14:16] Dessie Linden: Moon wins for being the first to use the word "wonky"!
* [14:16] Latif Khalifa: you take a linkset, you put a script in the main prim that inject scripts into other prims, and then you try to set them running, it fails, because the viewer does not know child prims have inventory, My guess is that the server never sends an object update that sets HasInventory flag on a prim
* [14:16] Bambers Linden: hmm, could be I suppose. How would we test the asset server?
* [14:16] Moon Metty: hahaha
* [14:16] Bambers Linden: O.o you guys are good
* [14:16] Opensource Obscure: oh la la. ciao a tutti. EHLO. hi
* [14:17] Latif Khalifa: hello OO
* [14:17] Bambers Linden: hi OO
* [14:17] Moon Metty: hi OS :)
* [14:17] Alexa Linden: Hi Open
* [14:17] Dessie Linden: heya Open
* [14:17] Alexa Linden: so on https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4895
* [14:17] [[User:JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4895|JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4895]]: 
* [14:17] Alexa Linden: hwo do we want to proceed?
* [14:17] Imaze Rhiano: he isn't saying anything about injecting script to other primitives by one script in root primitive
* [14:17] Latif Khalifa: i personalyl have never encoutered SVC-4895 when manually inserting scripts like the OP says he's doing
* [14:18] Moon Metty: i'm willing to try it a few times
* [14:18] Dessie Linden: we could leave it for now and wait for a repro
* [14:18] Dessie Linden: shall we move on and come back to it later?
* [14:19] Bambers Linden: try for a repro then and re-triage later? Possibly push to server?
* [14:19] Moon Metty: yup
* [14:19] Alexa Linden: ok
* [14:19] Alexa Linden: I'll update and ask fro repro
* [14:19] Bambers Linden: I miss bridie's glod sart machine
* [14:19] Bambers Linden: neeeext up
* [14:19] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4892
* [14:19] [[User:JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4892|JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4892]]: 
* [14:19] Dessie Linden: resolved
* [14:20] Dessie Linden: not really tho
* [14:20] Bambers Linden: I think this sounds like a dupe
* [14:20] Latif Khalifa: hm the report does not mention email
* [14:20] Davy Linden: we need more info on the format of email he's trying to use
* [14:20] Bambers Linden: oh - not quite the dupe I was thinking of
* [14:20] Alexa Linden: KK
* [14:21] Bambers Linden: +1 - NMI
* [14:21] Opensource Obscure: is it relevant that the client used is not the official one?
* [14:21] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-15725
* [14:21] [[User:JIRA-helper: [#VWR-15725|JIRA-helper: [#VWR-15725]]: 
* [14:21] Bambers Linden: yes, in that they may not receive support
* [14:21] Alexa Linden: I ask that too OS
* [14:21] Bambers Linden: but maybe they're seeking support for the non-working client...
* [14:22] Alexa Linden: 1. please try main viewer....
* [14:22] Latif Khalifa: what issue are you talking about?
* [14:22] Davy Linden: no, alexa, it's on the web - viewer version makes no difference
* [14:22] Latif Khalifa: Davy, exactly :)
* [14:22] Latif Khalifa: got confused there for a sec
* [14:22] Lilly Zenovka: reproduced with main & rc
* [14:22] Davy Linden: should probebly be WEB rather than SVC
* [14:22] Alexa Linden: is too
* [14:22] Latif Khalifa: it was WEB issue
* [14:22] Latif Khalifa: yeah
* [14:23] Yann Dufaux: he have a possible warning message on the consol?
* [14:23] Bambers Linden: now I'm confused...
* [14:23] Alexa Linden: we're on https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-15725
* [14:23] [[User:JIRA-helper: [#VWR-15725|JIRA-helper: [#VWR-15725]]: 
* [14:23] Latif Khalifa: that one uses regular 1.23
* [14:23] Bambers Linden: oops - that explains it Alexa
* [14:24] Bambers Linden: anybody using Snow Leopard and wants to risk a crash?
* [14:24] Lilly Zenovka: yes
* [14:24] Lilly Zenovka: i confirm this one.
* [14:25] Latif Khalifa: there was a service release to snow leopard 10.6.1, perhaps it got solvev?
* [14:25] Bambers Linden: is there a simple repro you can add?
* [14:25] Lilly Zenovka: I'm willin to try
* [14:25] Latif Khalifa: solved even ;)
* [14:26] Bambers Linden: ok, please give it a go, try to add your remarks as step-by-steps and let's see how it goes
* [14:26] Bambers Linden: repro = import
* [14:26] Lilly Zenovka: k
* [14:26] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4891
* [14:26] Dessie Linden: thanks, Lilly!
* [14:26] [[User:JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4891|JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4891]]: 
* [14:27] Bambers Linden: thanks so much lilly. Shall we move on and hope lilly makes it back..?
* [14:27] Bambers Linden: :)
* [14:27] Davy Linden: Soft asked for this at monday triage.. it repros for me
* [14:27] Dessie Linden: sounds reasonable
* [14:27] Moon Metty: yup
* [14:27] Alexa Linden: importing it will go then
* [14:27] Bambers Linden: trash collection wouldn't be a problem if soft paid his housing association dues
* [14:27] Alexa Linden: lol
* [14:27] Alexa Linden: ouch
* [14:27] Bambers Linden: neeext!
* [14:28] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4889
* [14:28] Fisher Linden: lol
* [14:28] [[User:JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4889|JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4889]]: 
* [14:28] Bambers Linden: (sssh - don't tell him I said that)
* [14:28] Alexa Linden: lol
* [14:28] Moon Metty: linking and unlinking with mixed perms
* [14:28] Bambers Linden: love the object name. functional.
* [14:29] Alexa Linden: I'd like clear repro steps and perms for each prim
* [14:29] Davy Linden: +1
* [14:29] Alexa Linden: NMI it is!
* [14:29] Bambers Linden: yeah, this sounds like expected behaviour. the reporter didn't own all of the linked objects. just several?
* [14:29] Moon Metty: i think it's expected behaviour
* [14:29] Bambers Linden: (am I wrong?)
* [14:29] Alexa Linden: me too
* [14:29] Davy Linden: "parts I had attached to another AVs creation" suggests to me that the prim changed ownership at some point
* [14:30] Latif Khalifa: you cannot link objects that are owned by different people
* [14:30] Alexa Linden: yup yup
* [14:30] Bambers Linden: yeah
* [14:30] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-15719
* [14:30] [[User:JIRA-helper: [#VWR-15719|JIRA-helper: [#VWR-15719]]: 
* [14:30] Bambers Linden: maybe a one for the knowledge base as a side note?
* [14:30] Bambers Linden: (re 4889)
* [14:30] Alexa Linden: k
* [14:30] Moon Metty: yeah, why not
* [14:31] Latif Khalifa: who say the folder icon is supposed to change? ;)
* [14:32] Latif Khalifa: just because there is an icon, it does not mean it needs to be used
* [14:32] Bambers Linden: ooh, that's a good one. I honestly cannot recall if it did / should, but if the art asset is there then is it expected..?
* [14:32] Latif Khalifa: and Herleen, notes that as far back as 1.18
* [14:32] Dessie Linden: the orientation of the arrow changes, but has the icon ever changed?
* [14:32] Latif Khalifa: it was not changing back then
* [14:32] Latif Khalifa: Dessie, at least since 1.18 it has not
* [14:32] Dessie Linden: thinks this is expected behavior
* [14:32] Alexa Linden: I don't remember it changing
* [14:33] Alexa Linden: +1
* [14:33] Latif Khalifa: so its sage to be expected....
* [14:33] Latif Khalifa: safe
* [14:33] Dessie Linden: really?
* [14:33] Alexa Linden: I like sage :)
* [14:33] lufpleh Obstreperous: can only ever rember the arrow changing
* [14:33] Latif Khalifa: haha
* [14:33] Bambers Linden: I would argue not a bug, but rather undocumented feature
* [14:33] Moon Metty: lol
* [14:33] Alexa Linden: FR?
* [14:33] Bambers Linden: :)
* [14:33] Dessie Linden: prefers rosemary
* [14:33] Latif Khalifa: is still getting used to his new keyboard, typo galore to be expected ;)
* [14:33] Moon Metty: FR for me
* [14:33] Alexa Linden: so we can go either Expected behavior or move to FR
* [14:33] Dirk Talamasca: That's the secret word for it, isn't it Alexa?
* [14:33] Alexa Linden: shhhhhhh
* [14:34] Alexa Linden: FR then?
* [14:34] Dessie Linden: FAPD?
* [14:34] Latif Khalifa: looks fine to me as it is now, i'd "expected beh." it ;)
* [14:34] Dessie Linden: functions as poorly designed ;oP
* [14:34] Dessie Linden: kidding!!!
* [14:34] Alexa Linden: sold.........
* [14:34] Alexa Linden: lol
* [14:34] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-15707
* [14:34] [[User:JIRA-helper: [#VWR-15707|JIRA-helper: [#VWR-15707]]: 
* [14:34] Dirk Talamasca: koff
* [14:35] Alexa Linden: bless you
* [14:35] Bambers Linden: geshundhei....geshundhei.... geshunt..... bless you
* [14:35] Dessie Linden: it would be interesting to know at what time of the day this happens
* [14:35] Latif Khalifa: hmm i've seen several of these reports
* [14:35] Alexa Linden: hahahahaha
* [14:35] Latif Khalifa: client freezes....
* [14:35] Moon Metty: and what environment is used lol
* [14:35] Yann Dufaux: yeah Alexa, i know this whit snowglobe to
* [14:35] Dirk Talamasca: netween 12am and 12pm each day
* [14:36] Alexa Linden: please add comments if you have any that will help :)
* [14:36] Latif Khalifa: there was one that since rollout of 1.30 server, client experieces freezes
* [14:36] Dessie Linden: very helpful :o)
* [14:36] Bambers Linden: we def need environment...
* [14:36] Alexa Linden: I'll ask
* [14:36] Yann Dufaux: but i notice when i'm in a Sandbox or other place like, with full people 
* [14:36] Latif Khalifa: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4857
* [14:36] [[User:JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4857|JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4857]]: 
* [14:37] Latif Khalifa: ^possibly related
* [14:38] Bambers Linden: I wonder if a wiki link about reducing lag would help the reporter isolate thisd more
* [14:38] Dessie Linden: Jalestra's comment is interesting - not limited to sl viewers
* [14:39] Bambers Linden: heh - Ellla, you're ahead of me at every turn :D
* [14:39] Lilly Zenovka: isn'tisn't it related to VWR-3878 ?
* [14:39] JIRA-helper: http//jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3878: 
* [#VWR-3878] cache textures: causes viewer. to pause for many seconds, with heavy disk activity
* [14:39] Bambers Linden: (just found you r comment)
* [14:39] Yann Dufaux: hmm, svc-4857 are not related to "lag sequance" ?
* [14:40] Bambers Linden: I'd like to know which Viewer this is
* [14:40] Bambers Linden: (or am I missing it)
* [14:40] Alexa Linden: 1.23 is all that's liste
* [14:40] Alexa Linden: d
* [14:40] Latif Khalifa: mark it dupe of SVC-4857, that one has fast timers and logs attached ;)
* [14:40] Bambers Linden: and Snowglobe
* [14:41] Bambers Linden: I see it now
* [14:41] Alexa Linden: yes but not the versions
* [14:41] Alexa Linden: do we agree on it being a dup?
* [14:41] Alexa Linden: more votes on the other
* [14:41] Moon Metty: i'm not sure
* [14:42] Yann Dufaux: i need more information for my part, if i can test on snowglobe*
* [14:42] Alexa Linden: and the other we've triaged twice in our monday meetings
* [14:42] Moon Metty: i wonder if Jalestra has an ATI card too
* [14:42] Latif Khalifa: VWR-15707 says freezes for teh past week, SVC-4857 says since 1.30, the description of the symptopms look the same
* [14:42] Bambers Linden: is it worth asking the contributors to comment with their environments too?
* [14:43] Davy Linden: I would NMI - ask for environment, and more details
* [14:43] Alexa Linden: on 15707 or 4857
* [14:43] Bambers Linden: what he said
* [14:43] Yann Dufaux: can you ask him for a update of driver?
* [14:43] Alexa Linden: or both
* [14:43] Dessie Linden: c... all of the above :o)
* [14:43] Alexa Linden: done
* [14:44] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4876
* [14:44] [[User:JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4876|JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4876]]: 
* [14:44] Alexa Linden: who's going to creat the ship?
* [14:44] Yann Dufaux: interesting, but i need to reprod this on aditi 
* [14:44] Alexa Linden: create8
* [14:45] Bambers Linden: what's the limit for distance from parent prim to child prim?
* [14:46] Davy Linden: complicated
* [14:46] Moon Metty: it depends on object size
* [14:46] Alexa Linden: lol
* [14:46] Bambers Linden: lol
* [14:46] Latif Khalifa: it would be strange if scripts in attachments stopped working in any case, after sitting
* [14:46] Yann Dufaux: Haha :p
* [14:46] Alexa Linden: and number of linked items I think
* [14:46] Bambers Linden: maybe that information could be sought
* [14:46] Yann Dufaux: limite of size* 
* [14:46] Dessie Linden: is very carefully avoiding comment
* [14:46] Moon Metty: very strange, Latif
* [14:46] Alexa Linden: looks at her shoes
* [14:46] Moon Metty: then again, it is SL
* [14:46] Latif Khalifa: except is he didn't put the front of the ship in a no-script parcel :P
* [14:46] Moon Metty: hah !
* [14:46] Alexa Linden: LOL
* [14:46] Bambers Linden: also a good point worth asking. But politely
* [14:47] Lilly Zenovka: Should we ask him for the distance between the chair and the root prim ?
* [14:47] Bambers Linden: that's very close to "did you plug it in?"
* [14:47] Alexa Linden: hahahahahaha
* [14:47] Moon Metty: :D
* [14:47] Latif Khalifa: i've seen stranger things... :P
* [14:47] Alexa Linden: I can ask all of them nicely
* [14:47] Yann Dufaux: Alexa, you remember this picture of mr on aditi? lol
* [14:47] Alexa Linden: lol
* [14:47] Yann Dufaux: sit on the chair with a big rotation prims
* [14:47] Alexa Linden: NMI for now
* [14:47] Moon Metty: a clearer repro
* [14:48] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-15691
* [14:48] [[User:JIRA-helper: [#VWR-15691|JIRA-helper: [#VWR-15691]]: 
* [14:48] Bambers Linden: um
* [14:48] Latif Khalifa: what, no (???) (???) this time? ;)
* [14:48] Yann Dufaux: yeah a flood, of this notice when some people ask for a chat group 
* [14:49] Bambers Linden: there's a group called the group
* [14:49] Bambers Linden: just maybe..?
* [14:49] Davy Linden: I've seen this
* [14:49] Bambers Linden: just a thought
* [14:49] Dessie Linden: or the group name is just a space
* [14:49] lufpleh Obstreperous: have seen this
* [14:49] Dessie Linden: is that possible?
* [14:50] Yann Dufaux: just tri on franc3d group loll , i look more of 3,000users
* [14:50] Yann Dufaux: try*
* [14:50] Yann Dufaux: but i don't keep this group for this reason:)
* [14:50] Dessie Linden: nope, group name must be btwn 4 and 35 chars
* [14:51] Dessie Linden: lufpleh, do you remember when you saw it?
* [14:51] lufpleh Obstreperous: yeah
* [14:52] Bambers Linden: so what do we think here. Real notification? Or a notification somehow mis-parsed due to group name?
* [14:52] lufpleh Obstreperous: i got the call dialog with the originators name and no group
* [14:52] Dessie Linden: what were the circumstances?
* [14:52] Dessie Linden: do you remember the group name?
* [14:52] Davy Linden: I've seen this, and I don't belong to strangely-named groups
* [14:52] lufpleh Obstreperous: thought what te heack, checked toriginators Profile and noted we only had one common Group, Hitch Hikers
* [14:52] Dessie Linden: there may be something specific about the group name - like a trailing space or something
* [14:53] Dessie Linden: could it be a sim-related thing?
* [14:53] Imaze Rhiano: could be sim related - sim is unable for reason or another to retrieve name of group
* [14:53] Bambers Linden: could be
* [14:54] Yann Dufaux: if the grouop are named "crazy tester! :)"
* [14:54] Yann Dufaux: whit a 
* [14:54] Alexa Linden: anything we can/want to do with this?
* [14:54] Imaze Rhiano: group name
* [14:54] Dessie Linden: more info - in particular, group names and locations
* [14:54] Alexa Linden: ok
* [14:55] Alexa Linden: last one for the day is......
* [14:55] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-15690
* [14:55] [[User:JIRA-helper: [#VWR-15690|JIRA-helper: [#VWR-15690]]: 
* [14:55] Moon Metty: i haven't tried vwr-15690, but it looks like a convincing repro
* [14:55] Moon Metty: it may be related to VWR-14176
* [14:55] JIRA-helper: http//jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-14176: 
* [#VWR-14176] Textures version: 1.23 Appears to effect Alpha textures with texture changing script.
* [14:56] Alexa Linden: ahh yes
* [14:56] Yann Dufaux: i see this bugs reported, but i dont remember the number of this bug
* [14:58] Bambers Linden: what do we think here?
* [14:58] Yann Dufaux: alpha bugs with some non-local textures 
* [14:58] Dessie Linden: import
* [14:59] Alexa Linden: should be easy to test
* [14:59] Dessie Linden: exactly
* [14:59] Moon Metty: yes
* [14:59] Alexa Linden: in it goes!
* [14:59] Yann Dufaux: yeah, i can reprod 
* [14:59] Alexa Linden: and that's it for today :)
* [14:59] Bambers Linden: and the repros seem pretty solid\
* [14:59] Dessie Linden: thanks, Yann!
* [14:59] Bambers Linden: yey!
* [14:59] Alexa Linden: thank you all for joining us!