Community Tools User Group/9-June-2011

==Attendees List==
*Adamburp Adamczyk (adamburp.adamczyk)
*Amanda Linden (amanda.linden)
*Ann Otoole (ann.otoole)
*bee Baroque (bee.baroque)
*Kraptacular Kat (bronson.blackadder)
*ChatBrat Pippita (chatbrat.pippita)
*DogWomble Dollinger (dogwomble.dollinger)
*Dresden Ceriano (dresden.ceriano)
*Eddi (eddi.decosta)
*Jeremy Linden (jeremy.linden)
*Knowl Paine (knowl.paine)
*Lexie (lexie.linden)
*Lisa Fossett (lisa.fossett)
*Luc Starsider (luc.starsider)
*Marianne McCann (marianne.mccann)
*Peewee Musytari (peewee.musytari)
*Qie (qie.niangao)
*Rand (rand.linden)
*Raymond Linden (raymond.linden)
==Transcript for Thursday June 9, 2011==
[13:01]	Amanda Linden 	hey chatty--good to see you.
[13:01]	Raymond Linden 	Well, as you all are probably aware we did a little work restructuring the Forums
[13:01]	ChatBrat Pippita 	Hi everyone ㋡
[13:01]	Lexie 	㋡
[13:02]	Lexie 	lol
[13:02]	ChatBrat Pippita 	Hey Amanda ㋡
[13:02]	Peewee Musytari 	BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *huggles*
[13:02]	Luc Starsider 	No kidding Raymond
[13:02]	bee Baroque 	peeeeeeeeeeweeeeeeeeee hugs :)
[13:02]	Raymond Linden 	We tried to steamline it a bit
[13:02]	bee Baroque 	/me waves to all \o
[13:02]	Luc Starsider 	Hi bee
[13:02]	bee Baroque 	hi luc \o
[13:03]	Raymond Linden 	We also just re-introduced the Forum Feedback sub-forum
[13:03]	Peewee Musytari 	hop up here hehe
[13:03]	bee Baroque 	calculating height *snicker*
[13:03]	Lexie 	located here: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Forums-Feedback/bd-p/forums_feedback
[13:03]	Raymond Linden 	The link to the feedback is in the Additional Links side-widget
[13:03]	Peewee Musytari 	missed
[13:03]	Peewee Musytari 	/me ** Loooooo00ooooooL **
[13:03]	Marianne McCann 	Excellent...
[13:04]	Raymond Linden 	We also removed the listing of Kudos on the Answer widget
[13:04]	Lexie 	cleaner look
[13:04]	Amanda Linden 	oh you did? ossm raymond.
[13:04]	Raymond Linden 	The HTML was fixed - Rand can get into that later
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari 	its moved?
[13:04]	Raymond Linden 	Ummm . . .one other thing . . .but I cant remember!
[13:05]	Raymond Linden 	Lexie - what am I missing?
[13:05]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	*✰* UNDERPANTS! *✰*
[13:05]	Raymond Linden 	haha
[13:05]	Amanda Linden 	ROL
[13:05]	Amanda Linden 	ROFL
[13:05]	Marianne McCann 	/me snickers
[13:05]	Lexie 	Animation and Machinima are also on their own boards again!
[13:05]	Marianne McCann 	Timing is everything
[13:05]	Peewee Musytari 	what moved about the answers widget?
[13:05]	bee Baroque 	oops sorry peewee
[13:05]	Raymond Linden 	Oh right
[13:05]	Peewee Musytari 	doh
[13:05]	Lexie 	Peewee thats just a kudus count number
[13:05]	Raymond Linden 	I think that about does it
[13:05]	Lexie 	Also...
[13:06]	Amanda Linden 	we're also looking at spiffing up the branding of the site...making it more dynamic
[13:06]	Amanda Linden 	more on that soon.
[13:06]	Lexie 	Re: Feedback forums:...
[13:06]	Lexie 	Threads in the feedback area must be on topic or they will be deleted.
[13:06]	Lexie 	We need to keep that board on track ㋡
[13:06]	Lexie 	And a note about the General forum..
[13:06]	DogWomble Dollinger	so you've smooshed the site, now you're spiffing it up :)
[13:07]	Luc Starsider 	What kind of feedback do you want there?
[13:07]	Lexie 	All the normal community guidelines apply there, but yes ...you can post real life topics there. The guidelines now include that information.
[13:07]	Luc Starsider 	Bugs, feature requests,?
[13:07]	Amanda Linden 	that stuff should probably go in jira....
[13:07]	Lexie 	Luc, it is feedback on the community platform
[13:07]	Marianne McCann 	I noted that many stickified threads became unstuck with the change.For me, the bay City and Nova Albion sticky ones in Mainland were missed
[13:07]	Amanda Linden 	that's where the engineers go....
[13:07]	Lexie 	right Amanda
[13:07]	Knowl Paine 	stay on topic
[13:07]	Luc Starsider 	k
[13:08]	Lexie 	Marianne if you IM me the threads I can sticky them
[13:08]	Lexie 	㋡
[13:08]	Marianne McCann 	Can do, Lexie
[13:08]	Lexie 	Answers update:
[13:08]	Lexie 	Community help information for Video has been updated (with Torleys help). Much easier to understand now!
[13:08]	Lexie 	and..
[13:09]	Lexie 	Before Peewee asks again lol .. we are still working on some possible fixes for Answers, such as having a Reply button on each answer. Will keep you updated as we find out more. ㋡
[13:09]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	1 thign about answers lexie?
[13:09]	Lexie 	Go ahead Adam
[13:09]	Peewee Musytari 	we are missing a lot of stuff lexie
[13:09]	Peewee Musytari 	cos if the OP uses edit to reply it doesn`t come up as a new post
[13:09]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	i've had a little trouble with "answers" - it;s less help than the scouts
[13:09]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	some of the searchesd aer turning up some randomly weird results
[13:09]	Lexie 	right, peewee, we are aware of that
[13:10]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	okay to pm over later for your perusal?
[13:10]	Peewee Musytari 	they are getting mad at us
[13:10]	Peewee Musytari 	lol
[13:10]	Peewee Musytari 	we are scared
[13:10]	Lexie 	yes Adam
[13:10]	Peewee Musytari 	hehe
[13:10]	DogWomble Dollinger	/me gives peewee an anti-tinyhurt shield
[13:10]	Peewee Musytari 	lol
[13:10]	Lexie 	aww we will see what we can do to make answers function better!
[13:11]	Peewee Musytari 	woots
[13:11]	bee Baroque 	\o/
[13:11]	Lexie 	Thats my update ㋡
[13:11]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	/me looks for his swahili>lindonese dictionary
[13:11]	Peewee Musytari 	the most common question now is...how do I work this thing? lol
[13:11]	Amanda Linden 	ok, rand/jeremy--you're next
[13:11]	Rand 	OK
[13:11]	Lisa Fossett 	/me perks and comes in with an observation...The Answers are oftentimes not catecorized logically and/or don't have good search results (tags??) as Adam notes. I know there are moderators that help move things, but is there any way to make this more streamlined/efficient/correct?
[13:11]	Rand 	We recently added Italian and Japanese Knowledge Bases, but currently there are no articles.
[13:12]	Lisa Fossett 	categorized...forgive the typos
[13:12]	Rand 	um, does someone want to address Lisa's Q before I continue?
[13:12]	Rand 	or shall i continue
[13:12]	Peewee Musytari 	do we need all them categories in answers?
[13:12]	Amanda Linden 	lexie?
[13:12]	Lexie 	Lets let Rand finish
[13:12]	Amanda Linden 	kk
[13:12]	Rand 	ok
[13:12]	Rand 	Also, I made one small tweak in the Knowledge Base: By default articles are displayed sorted by "Views" rather than "Date" (last update). You can easily change the sorting if (e.g.) you want to see what's recently been updated or added, but for most general folks, showing the most popular articles at top makes more sense.
[13:13]	Dresden Ceriano 	i'm sorry to everyone... I shouldn't have been cursing
[13:13]	Dresden Ceriano 	i won't anymore
[13:13]	Amanda Linden 	thanks dresden. :)
[13:13]	Rand 	Other than that, we're just doing general work on updating, editing, and working with localization team and community translators to localize articles
[13:13]	Jeremy Linden 	I'm currently working with the Mesh team to get the Mesh feature documentation up to date. I'll be monitoring the Mesh documentation request thread in the forums for good suggestions: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Mesh/Mesh-Documentation-Requests/td-p/914193
[13:13]	Dresden Ceriano 	oh hey amanda.. i really am sorry
[13:13]	Amanda Linden 	didn't even see it...now that i'm looking. :) no worries
[13:14]	Dresden Ceriano 	i'm not usually like that
[13:14]	Rand 	Thx Jeremy.... I think that covers the KB/doc world atm.
[13:14]	Peewee Musytari 	I :)
[13:14]	Amanda Linden 	cool. any questions for rand/jeremy?
[13:14]	Amanda Linden 	or on wiki?
[13:15]	Amanda Linden 	going...going...ok.
[13:15]	Raymond Linden 	Oh Rand .. .
[13:15]	Amanda Linden 	lexie, wanna address lisa's q?
[13:15]	Rand 	??
[13:15]	Marianne McCann 	I know I had something.. but not that it's the time, it's totally slipped my mind
[13:15]	Knowl Paine 	In the KB the question about what to do if a Residents forgets their original email address is not covered
[13:15]	Raymond Linden 	Did you mention that Forum posts can be nominated to the KB . ..
[13:16]	Raymond Linden 	For Contributors and higher
[13:16]	Rand 	Ah yes, you can now nomiate forum posts for KB articles!
[13:16]	Rand 	Right.... :-)
[13:16]	Lexie 	woot!
[13:16]	Lisa Fossett 	Oh, that's useful
[13:16]	Peewee Musytari 	ooh how?
[13:16]	Luc Starsider 	That's cool.
[13:16]	Knowl Paine 	I will
[13:16]	Dresden Ceriano 	How would that work?
[13:16]	Knowl Paine 	ty
[13:16]	Rand 	Knowl - let me look into that...
[13:16]	Raymond Linden 	Contributors and higher have that functionality
[13:16]	Lexie 	nominate is under the options menu
[13:16]	Marianne McCann 	Now that's interesting
[13:16]	Qie 	wait. the *posts* must be from contributors+, or the *nominations* ?
[13:16]	Peewee Musytari 	kewl
[13:16]	Raymond Linden 	Under "Options"
[13:16]	Lexie 	nominations Peewee
[13:16]	Qie 	ah, nominations. okay.
[13:16]	Peewee Musytari 	does it go straight to KB?
[13:17]	Raymond Linden 	We are also working to get that working for Answers
[13:17]	Lexie 	It will be reviewed
[13:17]	Lisa Fossett 	I should think it should be moderated/edited/checked.
[13:17]	Lisa Fossett 	nods
[13:17]	Peewee Musytari 	I agree
[13:17]	Raymond Linden 	Yeah, it goes into a queue
[13:17]	Raymond Linden 	For the Doc team to review
[13:17]	Peewee Musytari 	in case its not lindenspeak
[13:17]	Jeremy Linden 	All KB content is reviewed and edited by the doc team before it gets published. :-)
[13:17]	Peewee Musytari 	kk
[13:17]	Peewee Musytari 	so thats just for forums for now not answers yeah?
[13:18]	Lexie 	We are checking on Answers
[13:18]	Lexie 	Seems to have a glitch
[13:18]	Peewee Musytari 	haha
[13:18]	Peewee Musytari 	there`s a surprise
[13:18]	Lexie 	but accepted solutions are automatically nominated
[13:18]	Lisa Fossett 	As a non-contributing member, could I send an email to someone to alert them to a possible KB add?
[13:18]	Lisa Fossett 	or rather message via the forum messages?
[13:19]	Rand 	Lisa - Yes, a PM on Lithium is fine.
[13:19]	Lexie 	Rand what do you think on that?
[13:19]	Lexie 	awesome
[13:19]	Lisa Fossett 	great
[13:19]	Peewee Musytari 	so if the same question is asked multiple times and obviously gets the same right answer they are all nominated?
[13:19]	Dresden Ceriano 	i'm confused... how is this any diferent?
[13:19]	Lisa Fossett 	I think there's a shortcut for some people, Dresden
[13:19]	Lexie 	Its possible Peewee, but thats why they are checked before published
[13:20]	Peewee Musytari 	good addition though..I likey
[13:20]	Lexie 	If it already exists in KB they will see it
[13:20]	Knowl Paine 	Is multipule logins a problem? Using a outside search engine with SL forums open and then clicking on external to SL site causes multipule logins. If it's not a problem so to say I can ignore it.
[13:20]	Knowl Paine 	multiple, I always add that u :)
[13:20]	Lexie 	Re: the categories in Answers, and steamlining
[13:21]	Lexie 	We can lok into that!
[13:21]	Lexie 	look*
[13:21]	Lexie 	We see some categories are not that active, so good point!
[13:21]	Lexie 	Any questions missed?
[13:21]	Dresden Ceriano 	whispers: When are you changing SL Answers to O & A?
[13:21]	Peewee Musytari 	I tend to look at all questions on one page so categories don`t seem relevant...unless thats not how others do it
[13:22]	Lexie 	hehe Dresden, not sure on that yet.
[13:22]	Luc Starsider 	I've never looked at the categories
[13:22]	Raymond Linden 	Oh . ..I have something else . .. I cant remember if this was brought up in the last meeting .. .
[13:22]	Luc Starsider 	Didn't know they were there.
[13:22]	bee Baroque 	don't look at me peewee *snicker*
[13:22]	Lisa Fossett 	I'm more concerned with users finding answers, rather than my finding open questions
[13:22]	Raymond Linden 	The "Latest Post" entry has been fixed in the widgets
[13:22]	Peewee Musytari 	i assume the foreign ones should stay
[13:23]	Dresden Ceriano 	but Lisa it's the confusion of where people should post
[13:23]	Lexie 	Please continue to add the feedback on the forum for the community platform too!
[13:23]	Lisa Fossett 	/me squirms her eyes...one results in the other...I see your point :)
[13:24]	Dresden Ceriano 	Q & A makes more sense than Answers in that respect
[13:24]	Lexie 	yes, that does make sense
[13:24]	Peewee Musytari 	yes
[13:24]	Knowl Paine 	The ability to give more kudos would be nice
[13:24]	Lexie 	Knowl: On more boards?
[13:24]	Peewee Musytari 	is there a limit?
[13:25]	Luc Starsider 	yes, tehre's a limit.
[13:25]	Luc Starsider 	*there's*
[13:25]	Dresden Ceriano 	i could care less about kudos... they're not going to make me live a happier life
[13:25]	Knowl Paine 	mostly in answer and in creation
[13:25]	Lexie 	I have not heard of anyone who has hit the limit though in a day
[13:25]	Raymond Linden 	You can give 1 per post
[13:26]	Raymond Linden 	But, I dont think there is a total limit
[13:26]	Peewee Musytari 	right cool
[13:26]	Dresden Ceriano 	whatever
[13:26]	Dresden Ceriano 	it's really not important
[13:27]	Knowl Paine 	I might read 40-50 threads in an hour any extra would help
[13:27]	Lexie 	I think there is a limit but its generous
[13:27]	Dresden Ceriano 	there are better things to focus on
[13:27]	Knowl Paine 	currently its 4 per hour
[13:27]	Luc Starsider 	3 a minute is one limit
[13:27]	Knowl Paine 	lets discuss the better things
[13:28]	Dresden Ceriano 	lets
[13:28]	Peewee Musytari 	rolig wanted moving fashion forum discuussed
[13:28]	Peewee Musytari 	out of creation section
[13:28]	Dresden Ceriano 	i think fashion and clothing creation are tow completely different things
[13:29]	Dresden Ceriano 	two*
[13:29]	Peewee Musytari 	I agree
[13:29]	Luc Starsider 	True Dresden
[13:29]	bee Baroque 	/me agrees as well
[13:29]	Knowl Paine 	agreed
[13:29]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	/me agrees
[13:29]	Peewee Musytari 	should it be wherever avatar forum is?
[13:29]	Lexie 	hmm
[13:29]	Dresden Ceriano 	there should be a clothing category in the creation forum
[13:30]	Dresden Ceriano 	but fashion should be somewhere else
[13:30]	Luc Starsider 	Agree
[13:30]	Peewee Musytari 	well thats covered by texturing in creation
[13:30]	Dresden Ceriano 	say.. the avatar category
[13:30]	Peewee Musytari 	fashion itself is I think she described it as a vanity forum lol
[13:30]	Lexie 	right, thats what is on the agenda
[13:30]	Raymond Linden 	Ok, thanks for the feedback on that one
[13:31]	Lisa Fossett 	clothing creation is not only texturing. Perhaps it should have a sep category, but I agree, within content creation.
[13:31]	Dresden Ceriano 	texturing is included in the building category
[13:31]	Dresden Ceriano 	it should
[13:31]	Lisa Fossett 	yes, there is considerable overlap
[13:31]	Lexie 	good feedback, thanks
[13:31]	Lisa Fossett 	but it's a slightly different beast
[13:31]	Ann Otoole 	if there is a fashion forum then aren't people going to want to say who made what and possibly run afoul of the guidelines?
[13:31]	Dresden Ceriano 	it should be separate
[13:32]	Luc Starsider 	They do already Ann
[13:32]	Peewee Musytari 	yeah people do pics of fave outfits and stuff like that in there
[13:32]	Dresden Ceriano 	and a lot of people find that machinima should not be with animation
[13:32]	Dresden Ceriano 	i agree
[13:32]	Lexie 	Its a fine line between "sharing" and advertising, true
[13:32]	Raymond Linden 	Dresden - those were split
[13:32]	Peewee Musytari 	hehe that moved dres
[13:32]	Lisa Fossett 	I agree with that, too
[13:33]	Dresden Ceriano 	oh... i must be out of the loop
[13:33]	DogWomble Dollinger	wb amanda
[13:33]	Lexie 	Welcome back Amanda
[13:33]	Dresden Ceriano 	lol
[13:33]	Peewee Musytari 	wb
[13:33]	Eddi 	wb amada :)
[13:33]	Amanda Linden 	sorry about that gang
[13:33]	Peewee Musytari 	it was only last night dres
[13:33]	Eddi 	i know, crash hunter eh? :)
[13:33]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	onigokko
[13:33]	Raymond Linden 	So, the consensus is that Fashion should not be under creation
[13:33]	Dresden Ceriano 	you'll pay for it
[13:33]	Dresden Ceriano 	lol
[13:33]	Kraptacular Kat 	thanks
[13:33]	Luc Starsider 	Yes raymond
[13:33]	Peewee Musytari 	yes lexie
[13:33]	Amanda Linden 	pesky mac bug
[13:33]	Peewee Musytari 	oops raymond
[13:33]	DogWomble Dollinger	PC ftw? :P
[13:33]	Marianne McCann 	stop
[13:34]	Eddi 	lol amanda, the mac have some bug to? :p
[13:34]	Marianne McCann 	Ah, pesky mac bugs... I know them well...
[13:34]	Dresden Ceriano 	i think that there should be a clothing category under creation
[13:34]	Luc Starsider 	What's wrong with the mac?
[13:34]	Lisa Fossett 	My mind is bland on what else to call it...but perhaps another term from simply "fashion" will help distinguish it from clothing creation?
[13:34]	Amanda Linden 	(this bug on jira keeps biting me in the butt)
[13:34]	Amanda Linden 	https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25627
[13:34]	Lisa Fossett 	blank
[13:34]	Amanda Linden 	ooh, like fashion
[13:34]	Amanda Linden 	good word
[13:34]	Peewee Musytari 	having 2 can`t hurt, they are completely diff things
[13:35]	Dresden Ceriano 	it should be called clothing
[13:35]	Luc Starsider 	Ah, that one.
[13:35]	Lisa Fossett 	Clothing creation---for the creation thread
[13:35]	Dresden Ceriano 	and you can still; have a fashion category
[13:35]	Lexie 	Clothing creation?
[13:35]	Amanda Linden 	ah, good point
[13:35]	Lisa Fossett 	and fashion ((or something else) for the vanity thread))
[13:35]	Peewee Musytari 	yes 2 sep ones
[13:35]	Amanda Linden 	that woudl be a good way to differentiate
[13:35]	Dresden Ceriano 	just include it in your avatar
[13:35]	Peewee Musytari 	I agree with lisa
[13:36]	Lisa Fossett 	I think just plain "fashion" is not distinguishing a term to keep the creation posts out.
[13:36]	Lisa Fossett 	someone help...better term??
[13:36]	Lexie 	hmm
[13:36]	Peewee Musytari 	avatar & fashion in people and clothing creation in creation?
[13:36]	Jeremy Linden 	Avatar style discussion?
[13:36]	Ann Otoole 	Style? or "Fashion & Style"?
[13:36]	Lisa Fossett 	Fashion and Style...good one
[13:37]	Raymond Linden 	Great suggestion Ann
[13:37]	Lexie 	I like that
[13:37]	Dresden Ceriano 	iif you really want to know what I think... there should be a show and tell category
[13:37]	Peewee Musytari 	ooh yus
[13:37]	Luc Starsider 	Good one Ann
[13:37]	Lexie 	Yay Ann!
[13:37]	Lisa Fossett 	+1 to Ann
[13:37]	Marianne McCann 	+1 to style
[13:37]	DogWomble Dollinger	kudos to ann
[13:37]	Peewee Musytari 	/me has style & know nowt about fahsion :D
[13:37]	Ann Otoole 	then someone can make a thread called The Runway
[13:37]	Lisa Fossett 	hehe, Peewee
[13:37]	Lexie 	niiice
[13:38]	Peewee Musytari 	now ur putting fashion in events lol
[13:38]	Peewee Musytari 	with a runway
[13:38]	Lexie 	lol
[13:38]	Lexie 	Its hard to keep things simple!
[13:38]	Peewee Musytari 	its getting there
[13:38]	Lexie 	Whats next on agenda
[13:38]	DogWomble Dollinger	perhaps it can have it's own subforum? "Fashion & Style", "Clothing Creation", "he Runway"
[13:39]	Dresden Ceriano 	if there was a show and tell cat... then that would be the place to go if you want to create a thread about how fabulous your look of your place is
[13:39]	Dresden Ceriano 	or*
[13:39]	Peewee Musytari 	u think each one would get that many posts?
[13:39]	Dresden Ceriano 	anyway
[13:40]	Ann Otoole 	where would the fashion police thread go?
[13:40]	Peewee Musytari 	lol
[13:40]	Lexie 	lol
[13:40]	Amanda Linden 	nice--ok, shall we move on?
[13:40]	Dresden Ceriano 	it was just a sugjestion
[13:40]	Peewee Musytari 	yus
[13:40]	Lexie 	yup
[13:40]	Amanda Linden 	have 20 mins left and some stuff to coer on agenda...
[13:40]	Amanda Linden 	cover
[13:40]	Knowl Paine 	0.0
[13:40]	Dresden Ceriano 	i can't spell today
[13:40]	Amanda Linden 	apparently, i can't either
[13:40]	Jeremy Linden 	Linden Lab has a well established stance on the support of Resident-run police groups :-P
[13:40]	Dresden Ceriano 	let's move on
[13:40]	Amanda Linden 	ok, new products forum.
[13:41]	DogWomble Dollinger	/me builds a typing tutor for SL
[13:41]	Amanda Linden 	nope.
[13:41]	Amanda Linden 	:)
[13:41]	Peewee Musytari 	phooey
[13:41]	DogWomble Dollinger	haha jeremy
[13:41]	Amanda Linden 	we really don't want too much advertising on the forums.
[13:41]	Marianne McCann 	"Mavis Reisdent Teaches Typing"
[13:41]	Amanda Linden 	ok, name smileys...
[13:41]	Dresden Ceriano 	yes... ffs
[13:41]	Amanda Linden 	that's actually a good idea--at least a hover over like in skype
[13:41]	DogWomble Dollinger	haha mariana
[13:41]	Amanda Linden 	lexie/raymond?
[13:41]	Amanda Linden 	agenda here btw
[13:41]	Amanda Linden 	http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group
[13:42]	Raymond Linden 	I dunno. We'll have to sync with Lithium on that one. Good idea though
[13:42]	Amanda Linden 	cool. then we'll get back on that one.
[13:42]	Peewee Musytari 	its just the new added ones that don`t have it in the selection box
[13:42]	Amanda Linden 	ok, infohub.
[13:42]	Peewee Musytari 	the old ones do
[13:42]	Amanda Linden 	that's not really our group. i would contact the LDPW folks.
[13:42]	Amanda Linden 	if it's linden land.
[13:42]	Marianne McCann 	I know the LDPW has, in the past deferred any requestst like this, preferring them to come via Blondin (RIP) or Jack (RIP).
[13:43]	Amanda Linden 	ah, kk
[13:43]	Amanda Linden 	the email me what ou need and i'll get it to michael
[13:43]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	i posted that as i;d like a straight answer
[13:43]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	amanda - we spoek twice, you didn;t follow it up
[13:43]	Dresden Ceriano 	okay... I'm saying this again... I didn't put it on the agaenda because it's been covered before... but inline pics are still not lining up correctly
[13:43]	Amanda Linden 	the best way to get those requests in is through me. email 'em and i'll forward them but that's no guarantee that they will work on yoru request.
[13:44]	Amanda Linden 	just that i've forwarded.
[13:44]	Amanda Linden 	:)
[13:44]	Lexie 	Dresden pls send me an example?
[13:44]	Lexie 	I dont see it?
[13:44]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	/me is upset at that half answer
[13:44]	Amanda Linden 	what were you lookin' for?
[13:44]	Dresden Ceriano 	omg.. just try putting your own smiley into a sentence
[13:44]	DogWomble Dollinger	hey arawn
[13:44]	Dresden Ceriano 	as a pic
[13:45]	Amanda Linden 	ok, moving on...
[13:45]	Lexie 	ok Dres, I will look again. I thought it looked ok?
[13:45]	Dresden Ceriano 	it hovers over the words just like the smilies did
[13:45]	Amanda Linden 	and answer is yes--lexie and i both went through the new reg process last week.
[13:45]	Lexie 	hmm
[13:45]	Amanda Linden 	the new avs are cool. was there a question beyond that adam?
[13:45]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	yes, i busted you remember :P
[13:45]	Amanda Linden 	ah, right.
[13:45]	Knowl Paine 	lol
[13:45]	Amanda Linden 	ok, that was left over. huh?
[13:46]	Amanda Linden 	from the otehr week.
[13:46]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	and i want to know how you found he new user experience?
[13:46]	Amanda Linden 	better, but a long way to go.
[13:46]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	good? bad?
[13:46]	Lexie 	lacking
[13:46]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	amanda, i'm going on ecord here
[13:46]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	ercord**
[13:46]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	i made a new alt at the same time as you two did - iand i was disgusted by how bad it is
[13:46]	Peewee Musytari 	can they put a message at the start of registration saying something like....this name you pick will be your name inworld and u can`t change it?...because people get so mad when they ask if they can and then say they never would have picked a stupid code name if they had known
[13:47]	Luc Starsider 	I agree with Peewee.
[13:47]	Lisa Fossett 	There's a blurb there
[13:47]	Dresden Ceriano 	brb
[13:47]	Marianne McCann 	Peewee - didn't it used to have some disclaimer like that? has that changed?
[13:47]	Lisa Fossett 	but it's not so emphatic
[13:47]	Amanda Linden 	kk, guys--this is a UG on community tools not reg....
[13:47]	Amanda Linden 	i will pass your info along, tho.
[13:47]	Amanda Linden 	good insights here.
[13:47]	Amanda Linden 	:)
[13:48]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	community tools IS to help new users amanda, you one said so yourself
[13:48]	Amanda Linden 	agreed, but this is more about new reg and way outside of the scope of this group of lindens here.
[13:48]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	and it's seriosuly lacking for us residents who devote our time to helping them
[13:48]	Lisa Fossett 	We deal with the result if there's a misunderstanding in registration
[13:48]	Amanda Linden 	true true
[13:48]	Peewee Musytari 	they come to answer with names like JHGY7865 and they want real names not display names because they can`t hide the one they registered with
[13:48]	Amanda Linden 	ok--up for vote. talk about reg or get through the rest of the agenda?
[13:48]	Knowl Paine 	ok, next
[13:48]	Amanda Linden 	type in reg or agenda...
[13:49]	Knowl Paine 	the rest
[13:49]	ChatBrat Pippita 	Agenda, please ㋡
[13:49]	Lisa Fossett 	Pass that to the right folks and move to next
[13:49]	Lexie 	agenda
[13:49]	Marianne McCann 	Agenda
[13:49]	bee Baroque 	agenda
[13:49]	Knowl Paine 	agenda
[13:49]	DogWomble Dollinger	agenda :)
[13:49]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	agenda]
[13:49]	Peewee Musytari 	agenda
[13:49]	Amanda Linden 	ok, the agenda's have it
[13:49]	Amanda Linden 	:)
[13:49]	Amanda Linden 	next is blondin.
[13:49]	Peewee Musytari 	:((
[13:49]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	amanda, you missed out my next point
[13:49]	Amanda Linden 	we miss him, for sure, and there's a big hole left that he filled.
[13:49]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	whuch wasd before blondin
[13:49]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	which was*
[13:50]	Amanda Linden 	waht did i miss?
[13:50]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	Requesting something for an infohub: is it this group as per last week's discussions, or via LDPW? (Adamburp "Lexie's Midnight Runners" Adamczyk)
[13:50]	Amanda Linden 	oh, needed to refresh.
[13:50]	Amanda Linden 	:)
[13:50]	Amanda Linden 	oh, no updates on lindens responsible for support UG.
[13:50]	Dresden Ceriano 	um.. can a ask about something that wasn't included in the agenda?
[13:50]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	not UG, meeting to express our concerns
[13:50]	Amanda Linden 	we have a new director of support and he's getting settledi n....
[13:50]	Amanda Linden 	i wil ask him about it tho. :)
[13:50]	Amanda Linden 	haven't forgotten.
[13:51]	Lexie 	(you snuck that on agenda Adam )
[13:51]	Lexie 	㋡
[13:51]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	(check the edit time lexie()
[13:51]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	:P
[13:51]	Lexie 	lol
[13:51]	Amanda Linden 	ok, so the community team is now me and lexie.
[13:51]	Lexie 	㋡
[13:51]	Amanda Linden 	we're going to do the best we can covering the communiteis that blondin covered.
[13:51]	Dresden Ceriano 	okay.. i'll just include it for next time
[13:51]	Eddi 	(/me poke Jeremy , your chair is compfortable.. lol )
[13:51]	Amanda Linden 	i've already attended a bay city meeting and the adult UG.
[13:52]	Marianne McCann 	Need moar community lindens
[13:52]	Marianne McCann 	/me grins
[13:52]	Peewee Musytari 	aww what about jeremy raymond and rand?
[13:52]	Amanda Linden 	yes, we will be hiring. thank goodness.
[13:52]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	need mopre lindens - full stop
[13:52]	Peewee Musytari 	they is care in the community
[13:52]	Jeremy Linden 	/me is on the Documentation team with Rand :-D
[13:52]	Raymond Linden 	I am helping out on implementation work
[13:52]	Amanda Linden 	so, i will let ou know when we have someone new on the team. :)
[13:52]	Luc Starsider 	/me agrees with adam
[13:52]	Amanda Linden 	can't happen fast enough in my book. lexie and i are drowning.
[13:52]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	/me is still waiting to hea abou our meeting remember amanda?
[13:52]	Lisa Fossett 	/me looks at the clock and the state of the meeting, with so many loose ends and discussion
[13:52]	Amanda Linden 	ok, the next two items are from cummere and she's not here...
[13:53]	Lisa Fossett 	Can we put this/these topics on the agenda and START with them next time?
[13:53]	Peewee Musytari 	/me kicks bee
[13:53]	Amanda Linden 	but teh answer for both is no. the tos is the tos and it should be very clear what is a violation and what isn't.
[13:53]	Dresden Ceriano 	maybe we can cover it
[13:53]	bee Baroque 	/me pulls peewee's hair
[13:53]	Lisa Fossett 	(knowing full well she'll be up to her armpits in SL8B)
[13:53]	Rand 	We do have https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Terms_of_Service_FAQ
[13:53]	Amanda Linden 	so, think taht does it for those twoo.
[13:53]	Amanda Linden 	two
[13:53]	Amanda Linden 	ok, feedback listend diferently from other forums....
[13:53]	Rand 	And https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Residents%27_privacy_rights regarding disclosing IMs
[13:53]	Peewee Musytari 	to stop the dumb posters?
[13:54]	Amanda Linden 	true true
[13:54]	Amanda Linden 	(to rand)
[13:54]	Peewee Musytari 	they will still find it lol
[13:54]	Dresden Ceriano 	well that's self explanatory right?
[13:54]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	/me is goign to makle "vote with your smackers" group
[13:55]	Marianne McCann 	/me will vote with her smuckers. It's good on toast
[13:55]	Dresden Ceriano 	smackers... sneakers?.. whatever
[13:55]	Amanda Linden 	ok, forums and feedback from ossian (who isn't here either)
[13:55]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	smackers = money
[13:55]	Amanda Linden 	but, not sure what he means....
[13:55]	Peewee Musytari 	can we have a message on answers telling people its not a stupid system its just broken a bit for now?
[13:55]	Amanda Linden 	so he'll have to come back next week and explain unless someone else wants to shine more light on that one
[13:55]	Amanda Linden 	ha peewee
[13:56]	Dresden Ceriano 	/me hinds his face... if only i knew
[13:56]	Amanda Linden 	ok...
[13:56]	Dresden Ceriano 	lol hides*
[13:56]	Amanda Linden 	then we got through it with 4 mins to spare.
[13:56]	Amanda Linden 	/me relaxes now
[13:56]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	[13:52] Adamburp Adamczyk is still waiting to hea abou our meeting remember amanda?
[13:56]	Amanda Linden 	yep. sorry--now you know why ive been swamped.
[13:56]	Amanda Linden 	:)
[13:56]	Amanda Linden 	we'll meet soon.
[13:57]	Amanda Linden 	anything else from the group?
[13:57]	Amanda Linden 	suggestions for next week?
[13:57]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	/me notes that on his blog
[13:57]	Luc Starsider 	In answers. Is it possible to specify that the people answering is not Liindens?
[13:57]	Lisa Fossett 	Start with the NUE/Infohub topic
[13:57]	Dresden Ceriano 	i just wanted to tell lexie... sorry i questoned you... you are fabulous
[13:57]	Lexie 	We can highlight that Luc
[13:57]	Lisa Fossett 	Or put that off until after SL8B so more people can pay attention to it...
[13:57]	Luc Starsider 	Good!
[13:57]	Lexie 	aww ty Dres
[13:58]	Dresden Ceriano 	and purdy 2
[13:58]	Dresden Ceriano 	lol
[13:58]	Lexie 	lol
[13:58]	Peewee Musytari 	nice to see they let you out that hamster wheel lexie hehe
[13:58]	Amanda Linden 	good meeting guys--thanks for all of your support/feedback!
[13:58]	Luc Starsider 	lol
[13:58]	Lexie 	rofl 50,000 rotations!
[13:58]	Marianne McCann 	Take care, all!
[13:58]	Marianne McCann 	Bye Bye!!
[13:58]	Peewee Musytari 	LOL
[13:58]	Raymond Linden 	Thanks!
[13:58]	Rand 	bye all
[13:58]	Adamburp Adamczyk 	1 VERY quick question?#
[13:58]	Dresden Ceriano 	bye everyone
[13:58]	Lexie 	Great meeting! Thanks to everyone
[13:58]	DogWomble Dollinger	thanks lindens
[13:58]	Knowl Paine 	bye
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