AW Groupies/Chat Logs/AWGroupies-2009-07-21

*[2009/07/21 9:30] Saijanai Kuhn: So we'll wait a couple of minutesw more and then Imaze gets the floor for a bit
*[2009/07/21 9:30] Saijanai Kuhn: er, lawn
*[2009/07/21 9:30] Fred Rookstown: brb on an alt.
*[2009/07/21 9:30] Bevan Whitfield: lol Saij
*[2009/07/21 9:30] Clint Peccable: SLIMMIE:)
*[2009/07/21 9:30] Bevan Whitfield: hi slimmie!
*[2009/07/21 9:30] Slim Warrior: helloooo:)
*[2009/07/21 9:30] Yann Dufaux: miew :)
*[2009/07/21 9:31] Slim Warrior: ty Mal:)
*[2009/07/21 9:31] Bevan Whitfield: hi Mal - just heard you :-)
*[2009/07/21 9:31] Dahlia Trimble accepted your inventory offer.
*[2009/07/21 9:32] Clint Peccable: im a lousy typist
*[2009/07/21 9:32] Slim Warrior: hehehe
*[2009/07/21 9:32] Yann Dufaux: hello pooky :)
*[2009/07/21 9:32] Flight Band - wear to use: All Go
*[2009/07/21 9:32] Slim Warrior: not as bad as me!
*[2009/07/21 9:32] Yann Dufaux: hi Saij :)
*[2009/07/21 9:32] Clint Peccable: no comment
*[2009/07/21 9:32] Bevan Whitfield: hi AwM , hi Pixie!
*[2009/07/21 9:32] Saijanai Kuhn: OK, Imaze do your thing
*[2009/07/21 9:32] Slim Warrior: heya Hydra ;)
*[2009/07/21 9:32] AWM Mars: Hi :)))
*[2009/07/21 9:32] Pixie Tungl: hi bevan :)
*[2009/07/21 9:32] Slim Warrior: and Mystical :)
*[2009/07/21 9:32] Mystical Demina: hi
*[2009/07/21 9:33] Hydra Shaftoe: morning
*[2009/07/21 9:33] Saijanai Kuhn: Imaze is going to pitch an open source project for a few minutes before the lecture starts
*[2009/07/21 9:33] Morgaine Dinova: Imaze += cookie
*[2009/07/21 9:33] Pixie Tungl: hi hydra
*[2009/07/21 9:33] Saijanai Kuhn: Imaze? nudge
*[2009/07/21 9:33] Bevan Whitfield: hi Morgaine!
*[2009/07/21 9:33] Mealea Ying: COOKIE!
*[2009/07/21 9:33] Slim Warrior: Hi G2
*[2009/07/21 9:33] Morgaine Dinova: Hiya Bevan :-)
*[2009/07/21 9:33] Bevan Whitfield: hi G2
*[2009/07/21 9:33] G2 Proto: hello all!
*[2009/07/21 9:33] Asterion Coen: hello :)
*[2009/07/21 9:33] Morgaine Dinova: Hehe, hiya Mealea :-)
*[2009/07/21 9:33] Coughran Mayo: G2!
*[2009/07/21 9:33] Clint Peccable: it someone is drowning
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Youri Ashton: lol, yann, you are not suppost to takea bath here ;)
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Pooky Amsterdam: Ahoy Ast!
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Slim Warrior: lol
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Morgaine Dinova: Mealea += cookie too ;-)
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Bevan Whitfield: Asterion! bonsoir!
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Asterion Coen: pooky !
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Dahlia Trimble: Hi :)
*[2009/07/21 9:34] G2 Proto: :)
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Asterion Coen: bevan :)
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Mealea Ying: COOKIE!! COOKIE!!!!!!
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Pooky Amsterdam: your moon buggy is incredible! what is tht slurl again I was telling a friend of mine to go and vote for it
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Mealea Ying: HEHE!
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Morgaine Dinova: Salut Ast!
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Flight Band - wear to use: All Go
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Alfred Kelberry: hey
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Pooky Amsterdam: Mealea!
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Pooky Amsterdam: Alfred
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Mealea Ying: Pookie!
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Bevan Whitfield: oh AWM you rezzed!
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Saijanai Kuhn: so as soon as Imaze WAKES UP she'll chat for a bit. THen Clint will talk
*[2009/07/21 9:34] Pooky Amsterdam: *big smiley here*
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Pixie Tungl: lol... i still cant see him lol
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Bevan Whitfield: oh good for you!
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Asterion Coen: pooky it was at nasa ed. but the funiest was not the contest (i won) but the race after it in a lavatube :)
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Pixie Tungl: hi pooky
*[2009/07/21 9:35] AWM Mars: yes, sitting on someones lap
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Mealea Ying husge dopy grin here!
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Clint Peccable: can i talk or type?
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Alfred Kelberry: oh, pooky :) didn't know you're into geek stuff :)
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Pooky Amsterdam: oooooooo
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Bevan Whitfield: how many days do you have to be bald?
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Saijanai Kuhn: well we prefer type because some can't hear voice
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Coughran Mayo: wow this is like a "who's who of who was who"
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Clint Peccable: ok
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Alfred Kelberry: be! you're here too
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Bevan Whitfield: lol Coug
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Pooky Amsterdam: hardley know how to read -
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Pooky Amsterdam: S'-p
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Saijanai Kuhn: sorry, the linux folks can't hear sometimes
*[2009/07/21 9:35] Be Ewing: Alfred - yes -- I try everything at least once :)
*[2009/07/21 9:36] Clint Peccable: poor babies
*[2009/07/21 9:36] Pooky Amsterdam: mm famous last words Saijuni
*[2009/07/21 9:36] Saijanai Kuhn: yo Imaze?
*[2009/07/21 9:36] Slim Warrior: lol
*[2009/07/21 9:36] Youri spanked Imaze's ass ...
*[2009/07/21 9:36] Youri Ashton: wake up hun :p
*[2009/07/21 9:36] Bevan Whitfield: you're always hungry hydra :-)
*[2009/07/21 9:36] Pooky Amsterdam: oh the relay last total as of 36 min ago is 270, 388USD
*[2009/07/21 9:36] Asterion Coen beats morgain, bad cat, u didnt come at the contest yesterday, bad cat!
*[2009/07/21 9:36] Saijanai Kuhn: Well, I'll give Imaze another minute and then let Clint take over... *sigh*
*[2009/07/21 9:36] Pooky Amsterdam: that is a watershed moment
*[2009/07/21 9:36] Bevan Whitfield: woot !
*[2009/07/21 9:36] Clint Peccable: cool
*[2009/07/21 9:37] Mealea Ying: no beating BlooooKitty!
*[2009/07/21 9:37] Clint Peccable: my sis is involved in that effort
*[2009/07/21 9:37] Pooky Amsterdam: wonderful
*[2009/07/21 9:37] Clint Peccable: at Avilon
*[2009/07/21 9:37] Bevan Whitfield: oh love that place!
*[2009/07/21 9:37] Alfred Kelberry: hey, latha - why your toy doesn't squeak anymore? :)
*[2009/07/21 9:37] Clint Peccable: im not allowed there coz she says i will embaress her!!
*[2009/07/21 9:37] Pooky Amsterdam: its everyones contribution- really shows the depth and breadth fo the Second heart
*[2009/07/21 9:37] Latha Serevi: It does, Alfred - I just squeaked it
*[2009/07/21 9:37] Pooky Amsterdam: yeah stay here
*[2009/07/21 9:37] Alfred Kelberry: let me try again..
*[2009/07/21 9:38] Clint Peccable: haha
*[2009/07/21 9:38] Alfred Kelberry: yay!
*[2009/07/21 9:38] Morgaine Dinova: Ast: you know can't, can't herd them :P
*[2009/07/21 9:38] Alfred Kelberry: was rezzing probably
*[2009/07/21 9:38] Aleric Inglewood: This is the meeting of the gray avatars.
*[2009/07/21 9:38] Morgaine Dinova: Ast: you know cats, can't herd them :P
*[2009/07/21 9:38] Clint Peccable: you can with a BIG bucket
*[2009/07/21 9:38] Saijanai Kuhn: OK, I think Imaze is so busy prepping that she's gone AFK
*[2009/07/21 9:38] Bevan Whitfield: lol Clint!
*[2009/07/21 9:38] G2 Proto: or a string
*[2009/07/21 9:38] Saijanai Kuhn: so, she can talk after instead of before
*[2009/07/21 9:38] Asterion Coen: morgaine, mines do, when i shake the food box
*[2009/07/21 9:38] Saijanai Kuhn: CLint? ALl yours
*[2009/07/21 9:38] Clint Peccable: oh ok
*[2009/07/21 9:39] Kopilo Hallard: I like playing with pussy... cats
*[2009/07/21 9:39] Morgaine Dinova: 'Morning Clint :-)
*[2009/07/21 9:39] Clint Peccable: well im not here to do a pitch but ill try to give an over view (brief) of what we are up to
*[2009/07/21 9:39] Paperella di Gomma con il suono!: Squeek!
*[2009/07/21 9:39] Alfred Kelberry: is the guest here?
*[2009/07/21 9:39] Saijanai Kuhn: Introducing Clint Peccable
*[2009/07/21 9:39] Clint Peccable: ive been in SL for 4 years in ne guise or another
*[2009/07/21 9:39] Bevan Whitfield: claps
*[2009/07/21 9:39] Alfred Kelberry: oh, hey
*[2009/07/21 9:39] Malburns Writer APPLAUDS!!!
*[2009/07/21 9:40] Clint Peccable: and 2 years ago i sold my last company which specialized in multi media tools for schools and got bored sitting around
*[2009/07/21 9:40] Coughran Mayo: I think one of your earlier guises owes me money
*[2009/07/21 9:40] Morgaine Dinova: lol
*[2009/07/21 9:40] Mealea Ying: jhahahahahaha!
*[2009/07/21 9:40] Clint Peccable: and i was approached by an old freind to see if i had any bright ideas for a new project
*[2009/07/21 9:41] Asterion Coen: a coffe shop ?:)
*[2009/07/21 9:41] Clint Peccable: so at lunch i said wot if there was a dating site with a REAL Virtual world where you could go meet someone and do things together a bit like SL
*[2009/07/21 9:41] Morgaine Dinova: Sex will never catch on .... oh wait
*[2009/07/21 9:41] G2 Proto: lol Coughran
*[2009/07/21 9:41] Pooky Amsterdam: S;-o *cues dating casino*
*[2009/07/21 9:41] Clint Peccable: so i researched the available tools for creating such a athing and after a few months of rejecting the currebt ctop (no offense) i found UNITY
*[2009/07/21 9:41] Kopilo Hallard: pleantyoffish meet sweethearts
*[2009/07/21 9:42] Latha Serevi: Clint, I'm pretty sure you were my boyfriend for a couple of dreamy days in April '08, but you said you needed some space. Was I too clingy?
*[2009/07/21 9:42] Coughran Mayo: Maybe I could met a nice woman from Argentina
*[2009/07/21 9:42] Clint Peccable: hahah
*[2009/07/21 9:42] G2 Proto: lol ltha
*[2009/07/21 9:42] Clint Peccable: ok i cant type amd augh
*[2009/07/21 9:42] G2 Proto: Latha
*[2009/07/21 9:42] Kopilo Hallard: hehe
*[2009/07/21 9:42] Clint Peccable: wait i cant type at all!!!
*[2009/07/21 9:42] Pooky Amsterdam: wahahahha
*[2009/07/21 9:42] Morgaine Dinova: lol
*[2009/07/21 9:42] Alfred Kelberry: "real" as in what?
*[2009/07/21 9:42] Clint Peccable: so i looked at all the things in SL that drive me crazy and did some analysis of the things that make it not work so well
*[2009/07/21 9:43] Alfred Kelberry: no furries?
*[2009/07/21 9:43] Clint Peccable: SERVERS, LAG, GRIEFERS..SECURITY among them
*[2009/07/21 9:43] Mojito Sorbet: You went to the wrong places then
*[2009/07/21 9:43] Coughran Mayo: stop looking at me!
*[2009/07/21 9:43] Clint Peccable: so sat down with my old programming buddy of 20 years and we decided on a purley client side solution
*[2009/07/21 9:43] Kopilo Hallard: mmm
*[2009/07/21 9:44] Morgaine Dinova: Very sensible
*[2009/07/21 9:44] Mojito Sorbet: Blue Mars?
*[2009/07/21 9:44] Clint Peccable: well as you know its a real challenge..but one that after a year of ork we have managed to reach
*[2009/07/21 9:44] Morgaine Dinova: Could wait forever for LL to do anything
*[2009/07/21 9:44] Morgaine Dinova: We do a lot of ork here too
*[2009/07/21 9:44] Clint Peccable: our system is based on peeer to peer technology
*[2009/07/21 9:44] Alfred Kelberry: clint, do i have to buy a sli graphics solution for that? :)
*[2009/07/21 9:44] Coughran Mayo: In MIddle Earth it is the Year of the Orc
*[2009/07/21 9:44] Clint Peccable: with one server that helps negotiate connections then steps out of the way
*[2009/07/21 9:45] Mojito Sorbet: Flight Sim model
*[2009/07/21 9:45] Clint Peccable: so right now its n beta and will be launching in August ...if the programming gods allow
*[2009/07/21 9:45] Asterion Coen: what about the content
*[2009/07/21 9:45] Pooky Amsterdam: *does beta dance*
*[2009/07/21 9:45] Kopilo Hallard: have you tested it with more then 8 users?
*[2009/07/21 9:45] Morgaine Dinova: People are the content
*[2009/07/21 9:45] Mealea Ying: one? the lindens get that fir them selves and people they want to impress right?
*[2009/07/21 9:46] Clint Peccable: basically you do all the usual things taht you do ona any social networking website (whcich we also developed) and then invite someone on a date
*[2009/07/21 9:46] Alfred Kelberry: clint, what is it based on?
*[2009/07/21 9:46] Clint Peccable: The Unity Engine
*[2009/07/21 9:46] Morgaine Dinova googles
*[2009/07/21 9:46] Clint Peccable: with some custom extensions
*[2009/07/21 9:46] Pooky Amsterdam: I have seen some of the graphics they are amazing
*[2009/07/21 9:46] Coughran Mayo: Stroker extensions/
*[2009/07/21 9:46] Bevan Whitfield: yes amazing graphics
*[2009/07/21 9:46] Clint Peccable: in fact the cliet will run in Browser as wel as on the desktop
*[2009/07/21 9:46] Mojito Sorbet: What about animations?
*[2009/07/21 9:46] Asterion Coen: (graphics r alwayus amazing)
*[2009/07/21 9:46] Alfred Kelberry: clint, what about client specs?
*[2009/07/21 9:46] Malburns Writer: yep - very impressi9ve graphics
*[2009/07/21 9:47] Latha Serevi: WIth a client-side-simulation model, you've got the question "who decides where objects really are". Is a region of space completely referee'd by a single client, or are there a mix of objects "controlled" by different clients all jumbled together?
*[2009/07/21 9:47] Morgaine Dinova: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(game_engine)
*[2009/07/21 9:47] Clint Peccable: we have developed some of the best looking avatars aorund as real as the current technolgy will allow and our animator is one of the best n the business with amny years of experience in mainstream movies and The Sims
*[2009/07/21 9:48] Clint Peccable: so we are allowing people to do most of the kinds f things that SL has (no adult YET)
*[2009/07/21 9:48] Mojito Sorbet: Animator, as in just one of them
*[2009/07/21 9:48] Clint Peccable: im currently wrestling with the human interface to animation
*[2009/07/21 9:48] Asterion Coen: you u played Sims for years
*[2009/07/21 9:48] Dahlia Trimble: mocap animations?
*[2009/07/21 9:48] Kopilo Hallard: adult restrictions or adult content?
*[2009/07/21 9:48] Clint Peccable: yes this project will make peope see the strength in small focused teams
*[2009/07/21 9:48] Saijanai Kuhn: http://unity3d.com/
*[2009/07/21 9:48] Imaze Rhiano: sorry everyone for me causing delay - I was bit afk :(
*[2009/07/21 9:48] Mealea Ying: Is anyone logging this? Im in a hell of a storm at the moment
*[2009/07/21 9:48] Mealea Ying: ?
*[2009/07/21 9:49] Saijanai Kuhn: usual transcripts
*[2009/07/21 9:49] Mojito Sorbet: After someone tires of the animations your one animator made, then what?
*[2009/07/21 9:49] Alfred Kelberry: clint, who is this animation god?
*[2009/07/21 9:49] Clint Peccable: you can go look at a prelim webiste if you like it will be changing soon the marketing guys have their hands on it now haha
*[2009/07/21 9:49] Pooky Amsterdam: worth blogging the convo
*[2009/07/21 9:49] Clint Peccable: http://www.weopia.com
*[2009/07/21 9:50] Mealea Ying: thanks there are coconuts blowing off trees sideways
*[2009/07/21 9:50] Clint Peccable: theres a few movies and a demo you can try in a browser
*[2009/07/21 9:50] Morgaine Dinova: Ah, this explains why the Weopia website is so utterly Linux unfriendly --- it's because Unity is too. All Microsoft-sponsored?
*[2009/07/21 9:50] Clint Peccable: awww sorry about that..but i can assure you i ahve been MS free for many years
*[2009/07/21 9:50] Imaze Rhiano: are users able to create their own content?
*[2009/07/21 9:50] Alfred Kelberry: ah.. ok, the linux crowd can go home now :)
*[2009/07/21 9:51] Clint Peccable: no one of the streghts of SL is the building but its also one of its weaknesses
*[2009/07/21 9:51] Clint Peccable: so no imworld building
*[2009/07/21 9:51] Asterion Coen: clint, yes, but now MAC also got intel CPU and SM abilities , huh :à
*[2009/07/21 9:51] Asterion Coen: :)
*[2009/07/21 9:51] Mealea Ying: ha
*[2009/07/21 9:51] Asterion Coen: ms
*[2009/07/21 9:51] Pooky Amsterdam: are the assets from a catalogue?
*[2009/07/21 9:51] Kopilo Hallard: Alfred. so can anyone with your attitude...
*[2009/07/21 9:51] Mealea Ying: so... whats the point?
*[2009/07/21 9:51] Clint Peccable: no they are all hand built
*[2009/07/21 9:51] Clint Peccable: custom everything
*[2009/07/21 9:51] Morgaine Dinova: Building is just a distraction for a dating service.
*[2009/07/21 9:51] Asterion Coen: clint what ?!? ppl cant build ?
*[2009/07/21 9:51] Mealea Ying: hehehe! kitty!
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Mojito Sorbet: How big a selection of clothing? And avatar looks?
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Pooky Amsterdam: you dont need to build to island to take a stroll on it
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Rex Cronon: is weopia a dating site?
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Coughran Mayo: tell that to the guy who built the Taj Mahal
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Clint Peccable: exactly..plus..ohhh come se what i built..now watch it crash your machine
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Latha Serevi: "no inworld building", OK - but how about outword building by non-you?
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Rex Cronon: it says "the natural evolution of online datint"
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Clint Peccable: yes we are setting up a commerce site like XSTreet
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Mealea Ying: thank you Latha
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Pooky Amsterdam: less time building more time bonding?
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Asterion Coen: clint what bcause we dont wanna crash, builders should be abble to build :)
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Clint Peccable: exactly
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Morgaine Dinova: Clothing must be important though ... so that it can be removed. That's important for dating.
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Clint Peccable: its all about romance and connection
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Clint Peccable: no look how clever i am
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Kopilo Hallard: lol
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Alfred Kelberry: kopilo, you must have missed the sarcasm part :)
*[2009/07/21 9:52] Mojito Sorbet: I dont want to build while on a date, but I want a choice in places to go, things to do.
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Kaiser Bogomil: lol
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Pooky Amsterdam: clap on clap off clothing?
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Clint Peccable: sorry
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Hydra Shaftoe likes building. And building is a social thing
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Clint Peccable: i look down when i type hahaha
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Kopilo Hallard: sacrasim gets lost in text, sorry :p
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Clint Peccable: two fingers
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Slim Warrior: there is choice about where you can go in Weopia
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Imaze Rhiano: is there good looking latex clothes? :P
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Clint Peccable: thats an arguable point
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Mojito Sorbet: How bigt a choise is the issue
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Asterion Coen: hydra building pay my offices and my cacations :)
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Clint Peccable: building is for geeks we are reaching out for the non builders of the world
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Mealea Ying: I do little but build, thats the whole point to me, that and dating and taking off my clothing
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Asterion Coen: vacation*
*[2009/07/21 9:53] Pooky Amsterdam: it depends- if you have a bowling alley and can go and play or on a boat and go on an adventure -its fun
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Coughran Mayo: geeks need dates!
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Clint Peccable: in fact ive NEVER bit anything in SL
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Coughran Mayo: more so than others
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Saijanai Kuhn: relatively few people think that Habitat for Humanity meets are a hot date
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Clint Peccable: in 4 years
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Slim Warrior: not everyone wants to build and for those that do there is of course Sl and other platforms
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Mojito Sorbet: If everything in this dating world is built by your "focussed team", it sounds like it would get boring pretty fast.
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Pooky Amsterdam: I also have never built anything
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Clint Peccable: well we are about dating im afarid
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Clint Peccable: not Ahbitat
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Bevan Whitfield: me neither Pooky
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Kopilo Hallard: looks pretty darn nice, I would be impressed if the p2p connections are scalable though
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Saijanai Kuhn: CLint, that was might point.
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Mealea Ying: so.... what is it you are making? I totaly baffled here
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Clint Peccable: scalable in waht way
*[2009/07/21 9:54] Saijanai Kuhn: my* point...
*[2009/07/21 9:55] Pooky Amsterdam: it depends on the people though- we are traiend that creating content is about building physical things- but for most people
*[2009/07/21 9:55] Mojito Sorbet: Scalable, in, I can take my date dancing in a ballroom with 30 oither people
*[2009/07/21 9:55] Bevan Whitfield: (well besides community :-)
*[2009/07/21 9:55] Rex Cronon: so if only geeks build, u can only date geeks? who else would want to build on a date:)
*[2009/07/21 9:55] Clint Peccable: right now its not designed for 100 people sit round and chat
*[2009/07/21 9:55] Pooky Amsterdam: and ther are 18 milion registereduuser s on Sl
*[2009/07/21 9:55] AWM Mars: If you are marketing the platform as a online VR dating environment, then apart from giving users the ability to say rez a rose... give a gift.. then no building etc is required...
*[2009/07/21 9:55] AWM Mars: which is the whole point Clint is making
*[2009/07/21 9:55] Pooky Amsterdam: building isnt part of their experience- it downst have to be the god
*[2009/07/21 9:55] Clint Peccable: im not denying the use or scope or anything about building
*[2009/07/21 9:55] Mojito Sorbet: Missing the point about building. There need to be a lot of people building, so that the people going on dates have a chopice of experiences to sdhare
*[2009/07/21 9:55] Hydra Shaftoe: I think IMVU is in that market
*[2009/07/21 9:55] Morgaine Dinova: Most dating involves 2 people anyway, so scalability is not a major issue for a dating service
*[2009/07/21 9:55] Hydra Shaftoe: even if I hate how it looks
*[2009/07/21 9:55] Mystical Demina: there are mutiple types of content creation, some content is create once and viewed, or content is dynamic. Nothing technical prevents in world building but not a focus yet. But for content creation unity lets peope develop using 3D modeling tools and import it tinto unity so opportuntiy to have a lot more control on the build
*[2009/07/21 9:56] AWM Mars: Do you go on a date with your toolkit in the back of your car?...
*[2009/07/21 9:56] Asterion Coen: a virtual world without the creativity of it's resident, is not a virtual world, it's a private showroom and a coffe salon :)
*[2009/07/21 9:56] Slim Warrior: lol@AWM Mars
*[2009/07/21 9:56] Clint Peccable: well one of the thing we are attempting to do is to make really great looking content..most of the islands(sims) right now are in a rural setting
*[2009/07/21 9:56] Morgaine Dinova: Ast: this is a dating service
*[2009/07/21 9:56] Alfred Kelberry: morgaine, unless there are many fancy toys involved with lots of scripting :)
*[2009/07/21 9:56] Asterion Coen: oh
*[2009/07/21 9:56] Asterion Coen: well
*[2009/07/21 9:56] Clint Peccable: one of the thing i am excited about is the use of AI beings
*[2009/07/21 9:56] Mojito Sorbet: So my choice in where to go on a date is only limited by YOUR imagination?
*[2009/07/21 9:56] Coughran Mayo: dating isn't about fancy toys
*[2009/07/21 9:56] Coughran Mayo: is it?
*[2009/07/21 9:57] Saijanai Kuhn sighs
*[2009/07/21 9:57] Clint Peccable: birds, deer ows etc that inhabit the world and move and make decisions of thir own in relation to the humans
*[2009/07/21 9:57] Pooky Amsterdam: when you go on a date ehre- do you firs thave to build the place o go?
*[2009/07/21 9:57] Kopilo Hallard: use of AI?
*[2009/07/21 9:57] Mojito Sorbet: No, somebody else built it for me
*[2009/07/21 9:57] Asterion Coen: why every guy doing an activity those days r based on dates, gamblings and other stuffs like that
*[2009/07/21 9:57] AWM Mars: Most online dating services dont have spreadsheet modules... or databases you can create programmes with.. Clint has already said, this is an online dating platform..
*[2009/07/21 9:57] Pooky Amsterdam: *nods*
*[2009/07/21 9:57] Latha Serevi: Clint, do you antipate that individuals will be able to create and upload content? That's such a key question - will all of the creativity come from employees of the parent corporation?
*[2009/07/21 9:57] Clint Peccable: no there are a ste of islands right now and you can go to one of them
*[2009/07/21 9:57] Morgaine Dinova: Dating is a very major interest, so "dating service" shouldn't be seen as "bad" just because there's no building. Horses for courses.
*[2009/07/21 9:57] Clint Peccable: thanks you are right
*[2009/07/21 9:58] Alfred Kelberry: clint, so it's like a prelude to a real date later on?
*[2009/07/21 9:58] Clint Peccable: love is infaltionproof haha
*[2009/07/21 9:58] AWM Mars: I believe, so many people are looking for a SL alternative, anything that is a VR platform, must measure up to SL lol...
*[2009/07/21 9:58] Clint Peccable: yes its the in between step from lookin at progfilem emails to going on a real date
*[2009/07/21 9:58] Clint Peccable: you know how much you learn about someone in SL when you meet them here
*[2009/07/21 9:58] AWM Mars: reality is, a lot of the emerging platforms will blow sl away and quite soon
*[2009/07/21 9:58] Pooky Amsterdam: and something that has a lower learning curve too
*[2009/07/21 9:59] Slim Warrior: and in theory you sould also be able to lets say, attend a Music concert on a 'date' or attend other Live events too
*[2009/07/21 9:59] Morgaine Dinova: What I like about the idea is that it has low scalability needs, because not many people want to date an orgy. Ideal for SL!
*[2009/07/21 9:59] Clint Peccable: yes Human interface is a real bug bear of mine so i have made all the controls as simple as possible
*[2009/07/21 9:59] Slim Warrior: within Weopia
*[2009/07/21 9:59] Mystical Demina: clint can correct me if i am wrong, but i think the model is more like how websites are deployed in that scenes (virtual worlds) can be created and deployed for people then to experience
*[2009/07/21 9:59] Clint Peccable: yes that right
*[2009/07/21 9:59] Rex Cronon: i suppose you dateing service will require people to use RL pictures
*[2009/07/21 9:59] Pooky Amsterdam: "I want emotions not scenery"
*[2009/07/21 9:59] Asterion Coen: the virtual worlds tend to be for generalist purposes. what's the future about a very specialized world
*[2009/07/21 9:59] Clint Peccable: no if they choose to use an avatar pic thats fine
*[2009/07/21 9:59] Morgaine Dinova: Rex: good question
*[2009/07/21 9:59] Slim Warrior: its all about immersive experiences you can shre with someone esle, without lag, wothout hideous hraphics crashes liek we get in SL
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Clint Peccable: on the social networking site they can have a phot collection with private and public access
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Chantal Harvey: eeek asterion
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Hydra Shaftoe: What makes a virtual world succeed is not the technology behind it. Its whether people go there and stay or not.
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Asterion Coen: hey chantal :)
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Clint Peccable: thats true
*[2009/07/21 10:00] AWM Mars: The ability of providing 'plug and play' VR solutions is emerging.. browser based vector graphics will outstrip the ilks of client based platforms
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Pooky Amsterdam: Chantal!
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Chantal Harvey: hey!
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Hydra Shaftoe: Age of Conan had amazing technology but it just didnt keep peoples intrest
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Slim Warrior: heya Chantal
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Malburns Writer: within its context, Weopia works very well
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Chantal Harvey: hey slim
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Chantal Harvey: woo godd company here
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Malburns Writer: Hi Chantal
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Chantal Harvey: hello mal
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Morgaine Dinova: Clint: rephrasing Rex's point, is there an emphasis on real-world contact, or is virtual dating part of the goal too?
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Pooky Amsterdam: its also if you thnk of movies- the ones with the alrgest specil effects budget isnt always the most compelling
*[2009/07/21 10:00] Clint Peccable: well people keep peoples intereste the technolgy should be just a support not a hinderance
*[2009/07/21 10:01] Bevan Whitfield: hi Chantal!
*[2009/07/21 10:01] Chantal Harvey: bevan!
*[2009/07/21 10:01] Bevan Whitfield: :-)
*[2009/07/21 10:01] Clint Peccable: so thats my story
*[2009/07/21 10:01] Mystical Demina: although clint is focusing on dating i think this platform can be a simplier platform to deploy and more management content in a way businesses are use to. So someone with a furniture display room would be an example that i can see this model working better than SL
*[2009/07/21 10:01] AWM Mars: Technology must always be a wow factor, but user transparent..
*[2009/07/21 10:01] Alfred Kelberry: clint, are you going to verify avatar's look with a real person?
*[2009/07/21 10:01] Chantal Harvey: which lap shall i choose, lemme see
*[2009/07/21 10:01] Pooky Amsterdam: *pick me*
*[2009/07/21 10:01] Kaiser Bogomil: will you used screening tools?
*[2009/07/21 10:01] Hydra Shaftoe: The technology behind SL is not scaleable, is as old as Everquest, and cold not even theoretically be upgraded, but the reason it is the dominant platform is because the pepple are here, and this guy has no pants
*[2009/07/21 10:01] Clint Peccable: no the avatrs are the avatars
*[2009/07/21 10:01] Coughran Mayo: I once went on a date to a furniture store, actually
*[2009/07/21 10:01] Mealea Ying: whos the guy with no pants?
*[2009/07/21 10:02] Clint Peccable looks at his pants
*[2009/07/21 10:02] Morgaine Dinova: Mealea: looking to date him? ;-)))
*[2009/07/21 10:02] Mystical Demina: lol @coughran
*[2009/07/21 10:02] Slim Warrior: its a bit chilly for no pants
*[2009/07/21 10:02] Chantal Harvey cams franticly
*[2009/07/21 10:02] Clint Peccable: well i have no PARTS so who cares
*[2009/07/21 10:02] Malburns Writer: Might it in theory be possible for an individual to build later offline and then synchronise sim peer-t-peer with their date?
*[2009/07/21 10:02] Slim Warrior: lmao Chantal
*[2009/07/21 10:02] Pooky Amsterdam: there are VW with no ability to build or script that have huge populations too
*[2009/07/21 10:02] Rex Cronon: who needs pants when u can use a keyboard:)
*[2009/07/21 10:02] Clint Peccable: yes very definatley
*[2009/07/21 10:02] Hydra Shaftoe: So its not really a technology thing. Its more making it appealing
*[2009/07/21 10:02] Mealea Ying: yah but I need to be able to build something for him, this isint going to work out like this
*[2009/07/21 10:02] Chantal Harvey: sticky keyboard
*[2009/07/21 10:02] Pooky Amsterdam: yes and text is truly a heady experience at times-
*[2009/07/21 10:03] Latha Serevi begins to smell the aroma of flaming torches, tar, and feathers. Clint is sounding a bit like a heretic who won't allow user content at all.
*[2009/07/21 10:03] Chantal Harvey: lol
*[2009/07/21 10:03] Clint Peccable: we have deised a system where you an update your partner/s client on the fly with new content
*[2009/07/21 10:03] AWM Mars: mesh based avatars are not only better looking, programmable meshes and layers of materials can be applied, manlipulated on the fly, are scaleable for teleporting between different platforms
*[2009/07/21 10:03] Kaiser Bogomil: well sometimes I like a little no-pants romance
*[2009/07/21 10:03] Chantal Harvey: AWM
*[2009/07/21 10:03] Chantal Harvey: hi
*[2009/07/21 10:03] Slim Warrior: Ilike how Weopia is different from other platforms in the 'building' respect...
*[2009/07/21 10:03] AWM Mars: Hi Chantal
*[2009/07/21 10:03] Pooky Amsterdam: I create user content every week- its a different form though i dont build- but i do create
*[2009/07/21 10:03] Kopilo Hallard: have you wroked out a way to use a webcam to map people's movements?
*[2009/07/21 10:03] Clint Peccable: well you are the kind of "builder" we need :)
*[2009/07/21 10:04] Pooky Amsterdam: I also make films and the TV shows
*[2009/07/21 10:04] Kopilo Hallard: *grins*
*[2009/07/21 10:04] Hydra Shaftoe: One of the big things that makes SL appealing, at least as a social virtual world is the ability to build and transfer said builkt items around. and that also feeds into the social sphere. so I still maintain that the ability for users to build stuff at-will is extremely important
*[2009/07/21 10:04] Pooky Amsterdam: S;-D
*[2009/07/21 10:04] Pooky Amsterdam: 18 million registered users- 1,5 mill who return on a regualr basis
*[2009/07/21 10:04] AWM Mars: we are developing a proframme that allows users to transfer their sl builds directly into our platform (not opensim platform either)
*[2009/07/21 10:04] Alfred Kelberry: clint, so you may date a blond with double d's and end up with latha in rl? :)
*[2009/07/21 10:04] Morgaine Dinova: Clint: can you tell us a little about why you chose Unity Engine?
*[2009/07/21 10:04] Clint Peccable: well i tend to agree with you Hydra im not nay saying building just that in this cintxt its not necessary or desirable
*[2009/07/21 10:04] AWM Mars: programme*
*[2009/07/21 10:04] Pooky Amsterdam: there are people who might not need to buidl but wan tto go to a adult kind of virtual world
*[2009/07/21 10:04] Asterion Coen: i good machinima requiere a minimum of good builds, annimations, scripting, etc, pooky :)
*[2009/07/21 10:05] Mealea Ying: oh there will be hysterics in the Jira about that!!! hehehehehe!
*[2009/07/21 10:05] Asterion Coen: in that matter the whole team in important :)
*[2009/07/21 10:05] Asterion Coen: iis*
*[2009/07/21 10:05] Pooky Amsterdam: I dontthink Clint has an idlans a tree and then nothing else- this isnt virtual ibiza
*[2009/07/21 10:05] Mystical Demina: i agree hydra, but there are lots of use cases where content needs to be created once and used by lots of peope, like training materials, product displays, theme based builds with story lines where quality content is the important driver
*[2009/07/21 10:05] Alexander Baragula: ibiza!!!
*[2009/07/21 10:06] Pooky Amsterdam: I coudlnt agree more Ast- with the team import
*[2009/07/21 10:06] Clint Peccable: aye im somehting of an expert in Machinima so iknow what you are saying but again this is NOT SL the only movies made there will be by the cleients that want to record stuff or by me haha
*[2009/07/21 10:06] Morgaine Dinova: Ibiza *is* a dating service, isn't it?
*[2009/07/21 10:06] Rex Cronon: i might be interesting to hve AIs that train people in dating:)
*[2009/07/21 10:06] Malburns Writer: birds dont behave for camera though
*[2009/07/21 10:06] Saijanai Kuhn: dare I point out our holy grail would render these questions moot? At some point in the future, if the design allows for it, I'm pretty sure that specialized sites like weopia will have TP facilities of some kind with Second LIfe
*[2009/07/21 10:06] Kaiser Bogomil: I'm impressed - great Idea Clint I wish you luck :)
*[2009/07/21 10:06] Alexander Baragula: ibiza is a island
*[2009/07/21 10:06] Pooky Amsterdam: oh yes or how to flirt virtually
*[2009/07/21 10:06] Clint Peccable: good idea ..and by the way on that we have no forgotten :)
*[2009/07/21 10:07] Pooky Amsterdam: virtflirt
*[2009/07/21 10:07] Asterion Coen: Rex the first step is a smaller hat :))
*[2009/07/21 10:07] AWM Mars: The programme basically converts the prim based building blocks into vector meshes, then converts that into the platform compatible source.. all done on the fly, couple of clicks..
*[2009/07/21 10:07] Clint Peccable: i would love to implemeht a versions of ALICE for the AIs
*[2009/07/21 10:07] Pooky Amsterdam: or flritrage for the more advanced
*[2009/07/21 10:07] Imaze Rhiano gave you Looking for Help!.
*[2009/07/21 10:07] Hydra Shaftoe: my holy grail is to take my stuff with me whatever virtual world im in
*[2009/07/21 10:07] Chantal Harvey: me too hydra
*[2009/07/21 10:07] Clint Peccable: well now you are on a topic thats close to my heart...however its also one that i veoiw with a good deal of cynicism
*[2009/07/21 10:08] Hydra Shaftoe: I have a tendency to completely laugh at and ignore any VW where I have to be a human
*[2009/07/21 10:08] Mystical Demina: some of the other features is clothes are seperate geometries
*[2009/07/21 10:08] Pooky Amsterdam: I always take my stuff with me - even on twitter - Im me its mine no one is taking it away
*[2009/07/21 10:08] Dahlia Trimble: AWM are you using PrimMesher to do that?
*[2009/07/21 10:08] Chantal Harvey: i was in virtyuo but in spite of the wonderful framerate, not much to film
*[2009/07/21 10:08] AWM Mars: Unless you havent seen what I've been typing lol.. we are working on being able to do that..
*[2009/07/21 10:08] Asterion Coen: hydra, we can see that at your big ears ;)
*[2009/07/21 10:08] Alfred Kelberry: clint, can you script bots in-world or it's an additional module?
*[2009/07/21 10:08] Clint Peccable: additional
*[2009/07/21 10:08] Clint Peccable: for now
*[2009/07/21 10:08] Chantal Harvey: lol pooky
*[2009/07/21 10:08] Mealea Ying: aditional how?
*[2009/07/21 10:08] Morgaine Dinova: Clint: we have a major interest in interop here (primary interest, even) --- any thought on interop?
*[2009/07/21 10:08] Clint Peccable: the currebnt release is based on a very specific set of requirements
*[2009/07/21 10:09] Pooky Amsterdam: oh interesting- and how many people in any given place at a time?
*[2009/07/21 10:09] Clint Peccable: stay focused ... deliver ..then add the cool stuff
*[2009/07/21 10:09] Latha Serevi: I'd be interested in hearing about P2P stuff, and issues around browser-embedded-3d. Other than that, Clint has mostly lost me. His vision is too centrally controlled.
*[2009/07/21 10:09] Clint Peccable: well right now its limited by the technolgy of the person acting as host
*[2009/07/21 10:10] Hydra Shaftoe: the ability to get through a firewall so someone at an airport can dial in for a meeting is important
*[2009/07/21 10:10] Chantal Harvey: hey tim
*[2009/07/21 10:10] Clint Peccable: it has to be controled in that way so that we can deliver a product..im about making interesting things that actually make MONEY not cool for cools sake
*[2009/07/21 10:10] TributeTim Kwak: hi chantal. hi pooky!
*[2009/07/21 10:10] Pooky Amsterdam: Ahoy Tim!
*[2009/07/21 10:10] Rex Cronon: do you have sims in there?
*[2009/07/21 10:10] Clint Peccable: in my wrld i have investors and extending release date is the big bad wolf ..so i deliver wht i promise
*[2009/07/21 10:10] Pooky Amsterdam: what is the business model?
*[2009/07/21 10:11] Clint Peccable: no fee accounts
*[2009/07/21 10:11] Chantal Harvey would like to see clints work
*[2009/07/21 10:11] Clint Peccable: no FREE accounts
*[2009/07/21 10:11] Rex Cronon: or each host is one sim?
*[2009/07/21 10:11] Asterion Coen: :)
*[2009/07/21 10:11] Pooky Amsterdam: hold on he had the url one sec
*[2009/07/21 10:11] Pooky Amsterdam: its looking good
*[2009/07/21 10:11] Clint Peccable: each host has many sims
*[2009/07/21 10:11] Slim Warrior: http://www.weopia.com
*[2009/07/21 10:11] Chantal Harvey: ty
*[2009/07/21 10:12] Clint Peccable: right now its only 6 but each one is four times the size of a sim in SL and we are working on may more
*[2009/07/21 10:12] Pooky Amsterdam: http://www.weopia.com
*[2009/07/21 10:12] Asterion Coen: remember thay old slogan used by some i wont cite: "first we build, then we sell, and fiinaly we fixe... at the customer office" :)
*[2009/07/21 10:12] Clint Peccable: well i garee with most of that but im known for clean product ..i sont use customers as testers
*[2009/07/21 10:12] Hydra Shaftoe: Version 1,1!
*[2009/07/21 10:12] Latha Serevi: Morgaine likes live music. How about a live music performance on weopia? That's where I meet the guys with decent taste.
*[2009/07/21 10:13] Clint Peccable: well we are working on a the streaming aspects need to faciitate live music events
*[2009/07/21 10:13] Pooky Amsterdam: offer an udience and the musicians wil come for sure
*[2009/07/21 10:13] Clint Peccable: and have some ideas for allowing large numbers of avatars into each sim ....(no im not going to tell you waht it is haha)
*[2009/07/21 10:14] Saijanai Kuhn: well an audience that has some way to PAY and the musicians will come
*[2009/07/21 10:14] Asterion Coen: some virtual hotels ? :)
*[2009/07/21 10:14] Mealea Ying: ok so.... this is not open source?
*[2009/07/21 10:14] Clint Peccable: but again the current focus is on the dting site
*[2009/07/21 10:14] Chantal Harvey: dating?
*[2009/07/21 10:14] Saijanai Kuhn: which leads us to issues about money
*[2009/07/21 10:14] Chantal Harvey: or editing?
*[2009/07/21 10:14] AWM Mars: could you support say 5,000 users in a single region Clint?
*[2009/07/21 10:14] Pooky Amsterdam: mmhmmm
*[2009/07/21 10:14] Asterion Coen: chantal dating, i think :)
*[2009/07/21 10:14] AWM Mars: not for dating LOL..
*[2009/07/21 10:14] Clint Peccable: the technology underlying weopia ahs many uses and i am really interested in exploring more and different ones but for the next 4 weeks the dating site is it :)
*[2009/07/21 10:14] Pooky Amsterdam: Dating- for people who want somethingmore than match.com or eharmony
*[2009/07/21 10:15] Pooky Amsterdam: but cant bridge the learnign curve here and dont want to build
*[2009/07/21 10:15] Asterion Coen: (or meetic)
*[2009/07/21 10:15] Clint Peccable: the numbers of users that we have donr some early tests on goes up as far as 20,000
*[2009/07/21 10:15] Rex Cronon: once u allow XXX stuf, u might steal a lot of customers from adultfriendfinder:)
*[2009/07/21 10:15] Chantal Harvey: fire!
*[2009/07/21 10:15] Saijanai Kuhn: in how many different sims, clint?
*[2009/07/21 10:15] Mealea Ying: oh my gpd Pookie, you just clinched it for me
*[2009/07/21 10:15] Clint Peccable: im not anserwing that sorry
*[2009/07/21 10:16] Saijanai Kuhn: np
*[2009/07/21 10:16] Alfred Kelberry: clint, i'm still troubled with av's look. isn't a dating service supposed to help with a good match? and if you stumble on an av you like, but it's actually not what it is in rl, it's kind of a bummer. especially for a paid dating service.
*[2009/07/21 10:16] Object: Touched.
*[2009/07/21 10:16] Object: <0.59143, 0.77704, -0.21546>
*[2009/07/21 10:16] Chantal Harvey: or...a surprise?
*[2009/07/21 10:16] Alfred Kelberry: or that :)
*[2009/07/21 10:16] Pooky Amsterdam: it is a fascinating proposition this virtual dating- here you fall also in love with the personinside- because you dont knwo what they look like
*[2009/07/21 10:16] Paperella di Gomma con il suono!: Squeek!
*[2009/07/21 10:16] Clint Peccable: well th idea is not to STUBLE on an AV but to use the social netwotking site to find people and then you agree to go inworld so before tou see the avatar you already know something of that person and perhaps have seen them
*[2009/07/21 10:16] Imaze Rhiano: alfred - sametime it will makes knowing each other anonomiously easier....
*[2009/07/21 10:17] Pooky Amsterdam: you stumbel into a bar and are attracted tothe outside and hope the person within lives up to the look
*[2009/07/21 10:17] Clint Peccable: ok ITS not SL hahaha
*[2009/07/21 10:17] AWM Mars: are you using XMPP collaboration servers?
*[2009/07/21 10:17] Clint Peccable: you have to agree to meet someone
*[2009/07/21 10:17] Clint Peccable: nope
*[2009/07/21 10:17] TributeTim Kwak: i generally stumble out of bars...not into them.
*[2009/07/21 10:17] Clint Peccable: hahah or crawl
*[2009/07/21 10:17] Pooky Amsterdam: good the concept of "forced reality" isnt appealing
*[2009/07/21 10:17] Bevan Whitfield: (permits to do the whole "don't judge a book by its cover" thing)
*[2009/07/21 10:17] Mealea Ying: good grief....
*[2009/07/21 10:17] Saijanai Kuhn: new VW term: sim crawling
*[2009/07/21 10:18] Clint Peccable: hahaha
*[2009/07/21 10:18] Clint Peccable: i like that
*[2009/07/21 10:18] Clint Peccable: BRB one sec
*[2009/07/21 10:18] Pooky Amsterdam: better than sim trawling
*[2009/07/21 10:18] AWM Mars: so no Jabber/XMPP compliances..
*[2009/07/21 10:18] Alfred Kelberry: clint, yes, that makes sense then
*[2009/07/21 10:18] Morgaine Dinova: Who's griefing?
*[2009/07/21 10:19] Clint Peccable: ok back sorry
*[2009/07/21 10:19] Imaze Rhiano: also no burning bushes...
*[2009/07/21 10:19] Latha Serevi: I'm griefing myself.
*[2009/07/21 10:19] Pooky Amsterdam: wb
*[2009/07/21 10:19] Clint Peccable: haha
*[2009/07/21 10:19] Clint Peccable: good example
*[2009/07/21 10:19] Morgaine Dinova: Hi Tapple :-)
*[2009/07/21 10:19] Mealea Ying: so its not open source? if not, are the graphics better/faster, and can it be reverse engineered?
*[2009/07/21 10:20] Clint Peccable: sorry the web based site is fully twitter and Facebook etc so not inworld altho i am looking at ways to have it a part of the chat engine
*[2009/07/21 10:20] Rex Cronon: how are the goods in your world going to be protected from teft, and /or illegal migration to other VW?
*[2009/07/21 10:20] Clint Peccable: i doubt you could reverse engineer it its all compiled code....and graphics reverse engineering is just lookign and copying i guess ;)
*[2009/07/21 10:20] Latha Serevi: Rex: there aren't any goods. :-o
*[2009/07/21 10:21] Rex Cronon: they need to have content
*[2009/07/21 10:21] Rex Cronon: not a lot of people will come to just see terrain
*[2009/07/21 10:21] Latha Serevi: Rex: not much content, since it's only their little team building it.
*[2009/07/21 10:21] Clint Peccable: the "goods"will be sold off world and brought into your client and you can share them with the people you choose but the origals are only on the purchasers cleint and cannot be traded or sold on
*[2009/07/21 10:22] TributeTim Kwak nods. and you really have to face up to the IP issues.
*[2009/07/21 10:22] Clint Peccable: aye thats true
*[2009/07/21 10:22] Morgaine Dinova: I would visit places just to see terrain. It's 50% of the reason for going on holiday
*[2009/07/21 10:22] TributeTim Kwak: so, Clint, no content creation?
*[2009/07/21 10:22] Clint Peccable: yes there are some isues but mostly to do with opening a prot to facilitate excahnge
*[2009/07/21 10:22] Pooky Amsterdam: depends what you call content
*[2009/07/21 10:22] Rex Cronon: even terrain info can be stolen
*[2009/07/21 10:22] Saijanai Kuhn: and creation...
*[2009/07/21 10:22] Pooky Amsterdam: *nods*
*[2009/07/21 10:23] Clint Peccable: we are supporting import of the major file formats
*[2009/07/21 10:23] TributeTim Kwak: ok. so i build a venue for live music performances.....
*[2009/07/21 10:23] Saijanai Kuhn: 3DS Max is mentioned on the website. Will their be provisions for people on dates to bring stuff "in-world?"
*[2009/07/21 10:23] TributeTim Kwak: the venue is content, too.
*[2009/07/21 10:23] Clint Peccable: thats true
*[2009/07/21 10:23] Rex Cronon: quite a few peopole belive that once data is sent to a viewer there is nothing to stop from being copied
*[2009/07/21 10:23] Pooky Amsterdam: can i show my etchings to anyone inworld?
*[2009/07/21 10:24] Saijanai Kuhn: except with no micropayment scheme, there's little incentive to steal in teh first place
*[2009/07/21 10:24] TributeTim Kwak: that is the self serving position of rezzable...that it's the same as drm for music.
*[2009/07/21 10:24] Kopilo Hallard: digital to analogue to digital is rather real...
*[2009/07/21 10:24] Clint Peccable: no but you can show your etchings ont he web site haha
*[2009/07/21 10:24] Saijanai Kuhn: will you have html on a prim or the equivalent?
*[2009/07/21 10:24] Techwolf Lupindo: Hmm...another site that requries a plugin. I was visiting/checking out the web stie.
*[2009/07/21 10:24] Clint Peccable: i garee Kopolio btu thats the same for any one i dont pretend to have solution for copyrght infringment
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Chantal Harvey: i have to run, rl calling
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Rex Cronon: tc
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Asterion Coen: cya chantal :)
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Malburns Writer: bye Chantal
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Latha Serevi: Anybody else going to join me in harshing on Clint until he gets ultra-geeky-technical with us or runs away?
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Asterion Coen: will have to go soon too
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Alfred Kelberry: tech, yes, it's a downside
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Chantal Harvey: see u soon, sorry to go
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Slim Warrior: byee Chantal
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Clint Peccable: hahaha not gonna happen
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Mealea Ying: nope, I dont need a 3D pimp
*[2009/07/21 10:25] TributeTim Kwak: later, chantal. ;-)
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Bevan Whitfield: bye Chantal!!
*[2009/07/21 10:25] AWM Mars: c u Chantal :)
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Techwolf Lupindo: And it apears to be broken
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Saijanai Kuhn: I should warn Clint that we don't have a set meeting END, so he can talk until he's tired or everyone leaves
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Bevan Whitfield: lol saij
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Boroondas Gupte: :-P
*[2009/07/21 10:25] Clint Peccable: or until i run out of cigys
*[2009/07/21 10:26] Rex Cronon: it usually ends at 11:)
*[2009/07/21 10:26] Pooky Amsterdam: My chantal see you Anon
*[2009/07/21 10:26] Kopilo Hallard: ummm wasn't someone else meant to speak as well?
*[2009/07/21 10:26] Alfred Kelberry: saij, i like this arrangement :)
*[2009/07/21 10:26] Hydra Shaftoe has a meeting soon
*[2009/07/21 10:26] Saijanai Kuhn: right, Imaze wnats to talk up a project. Posting notice in groupies
*[2009/07/21 10:26] Clint Peccable: however my typing tends to degerate the longer i keep going
*[2009/07/21 10:26] Kopilo Hallard: ...
*[2009/07/21 10:26] Pooky Amsterdam: Im finishing up for shwo tonight
*[2009/07/21 10:26] Kopilo Hallard: *nods*
*[2009/07/21 10:26] Alfred Kelberry: thanks, clint
*[2009/07/21 10:26] Pooky Amsterdam: will you have voice?
*[2009/07/21 10:26] Alfred Kelberry: good luck with your project
*[2009/07/21 10:26] Clint Peccable: thanks for having me here
*[2009/07/21 10:27] Imaze Rhiano: oh
*[2009/07/21 10:27] Rex Cronon: yes clint. good luck with your dating site:)
*[2009/07/21 10:27] Bevan Whitfield: claps!
*[2009/07/21 10:27] Clint Peccable: i have managed to gain some real insight for my bnext pahse just listening to the questions :)
*[2009/07/21 10:27] Imaze Rhiano: you stopped torturing clint already?
*[2009/07/21 10:27] Pooky Amsterdam: thank you!
*[2009/07/21 10:27] Clint Peccable: hahah leave me alone or ill cry
*[2009/07/21 10:27] Kopilo Hallard: haha
*[2009/07/21 10:27] Morgaine Dinova: Thanks Clint!
*[2009/07/21 10:27] Clint Peccable: :)
*[2009/07/21 10:27] TributeTim Kwak: let the beating continue!!
*[2009/07/21 10:27] Clint Peccable runs off to the kitchen
*[2009/07/21 10:28] Boroondas Gupte: why to the kitchen?
*[2009/07/21 10:28] Kopilo Hallard: good luck clint, hope to see the launch
*[2009/07/21 10:28] Rex Cronon: don't drop the keyboard clit:)
*[2009/07/21 10:28] Clint Peccable: my g=fags are there
*[2009/07/21 10:28] Clint Peccable: oops gigys
*[2009/07/21 10:28] Asterion Coen: i goota go. it was a funy meeting. take care folks, and thx clint :)
*[2009/07/21 10:28] Rex Cronon: clint*
*[2009/07/21 10:28] TributeTim Kwak: :-) good luck with the project. it sounds really quite interesting, but not sure how content creators fit into the vision.
*[2009/07/21 10:28] Morgaine Dinova: Woohoo, Imaze is awake now for her pitch :-)
*[2009/07/21 10:28] Clint Peccable: thanks ASt
*[2009/07/21 10:28] Pooky Amsterdam: bye Ast!
*[2009/07/21 10:28] Bevan Whitfield: au revoir Ast!
*[2009/07/21 10:28] Imaze Rhiano: okay.... short notice from me
*[2009/07/21 10:29] Imaze Rhiano: lol
*[2009/07/21 10:29] Morgaine Dinova: Au 'voir Ast!
*[2009/07/21 10:29] Morgaine Dinova: Who's the grifer?
*[2009/07/21 10:29] Bevan Whitfield: what was that?
*[2009/07/21 10:29] Mealea Ying: sorry, that was my F7 key
*[2009/07/21 10:29] Imaze Rhiano: I am member of project that is helping with Mono metadata verifier - and we are desperataly looking for new members to group!
*[2009/07/21 10:29] Bevan Whitfield: Hope that wasn't Clint in the kitchen...
*[2009/07/21 10:29] Alfred Kelberry: pooky, how about you and me to beta test this dating service? :)
*[2009/07/21 10:29] Coughran Mayo: something unnecessary
*[2009/07/21 10:29] Morgaine Dinova: LOO Bev :P
*[2009/07/21 10:29] Pooky Amsterdam: Aye
*[2009/07/21 10:29] Morgaine Dinova: LOL Bev :P
*[2009/07/21 10:30] Rex Cronon: just got the notice about imaze:(
*[2009/07/21 10:30] Imaze Rhiano: if you are interested to help Mono-project - and same time SL and maybe also Open SIM - please read notecard that Saijanai just did send for you :)
*[2009/07/21 10:30] Mealea Ying: me too
*[2009/07/21 10:30] Mystical Demina: haha @alfred
*[2009/07/21 10:30] Mealea Ying: oops.....
*[2009/07/21 10:30] Clint Peccable: Unity is based on Mono i would be interested
*[2009/07/21 10:30] Imaze Rhiano: we are having about right now meeting IRC #monodev - http://mono-project.com/IRC
*[2009/07/21 10:30] Mealea Ying: I thought it was a landmark here
*[2009/07/21 10:31] Imaze Rhiano: thanks - that is all :)
*[2009/07/21 10:31] Morgaine Dinova: LOL, good pitch, "Hey hun, wanna interoperate?"
*[2009/07/21 10:31] Clint Peccable: haha
*[2009/07/21 10:31] Imaze Rhiano: :P
*[2009/07/21 10:31] Bevan Whitfield: sure your place or mine?
*[2009/07/21 10:31] Clint Peccable: very Japanese short and sweet
*[2009/07/21 10:31] Kopilo Hallard: lol
*[2009/07/21 10:31] Imaze Rhiano blushes....
*[2009/07/21 10:31] Morgaine Dinova: Imaze, can you say a bit about the end goal?
*[2009/07/21 10:32] Imaze Rhiano: Our end goal is to write test suite for Mono data verifier
*[2009/07/21 10:32] Morgaine Dinova: (Handy for the Groupies transcript)
*[2009/07/21 10:32] Slim Warrior: Tc all , have a great afternoon/evening/morning :)
*[2009/07/21 10:32] Rex Cronon: tc
*[2009/07/21 10:32] Imaze Rhiano: this will allow to use things like C# scripting in SL
*[2009/07/21 10:33] Bevan Whitfield: bye slimmie - see you at 3 PM!
*[2009/07/21 10:33] Malburns Writer: later slimmie
*[2009/07/21 10:33] Kopilo Hallard: *waves*
*[2009/07/21 10:33] Slim Warrior: wots at 3?
*[2009/07/21 10:33] Slim Warrior: oh gawd yes!
*[2009/07/21 10:33] Bevan Whitfield: erm
*[2009/07/21 10:33] Slim Warrior: ]hehehhee
*[2009/07/21 10:33] Malburns Writer: lol
*[2009/07/21 10:33] Bevan Whitfield: lololo
*[2009/07/21 10:33] Mystical Demina: thanks clint, i'm back to texturing avatars, talk later
*[2009/07/21 10:33] Imaze Rhiano: okay - I need to go to that IRC - meeting - please send IMs for me anytime if you have questions
*[2009/07/21 10:33] Morgaine Dinova: Imaze: how does it relate to Babbage's work with instrumenting assemblies? Doesn't he already do verification?
*[2009/07/21 10:33] Imaze Rhiano: byyyyyyye
*[2009/07/21 10:34] Alfred Kelberry: imaze, is there a bdd suite for mono?
*[2009/07/21 10:34] Clint Peccable: see ya later Myst
*[2009/07/21 10:34] Imaze Rhiano: no - morgain - it is not related to instrumentation
*[2009/07/21 10:34] Morgaine Dinova: Aha
*[2009/07/21 10:35] Bevan Whitfield: must hop as well - the metaverse is a hard task mistress ....
*[2009/07/21 10:35] Rex Cronon: tc
*[2009/07/21 10:35] Alfred Kelberry: i'd like ruby scripting in sl
*[2009/07/21 10:35] Pooky Amsterdam: bye Bevkins
*[2009/07/21 10:35] Morgaine Dinova: Bye Bev :-)
*[2009/07/21 10:35] Pooky Amsterdam: S;-D
*[2009/07/21 10:35] Saijanai Kuhn: Thanks to CLint for speaking
*[2009/07/21 10:35] Saijanai Kuhn: unless he has more to say
*[2009/07/21 10:35] TributeTim Kwak: yes. thx Clint.
*[2009/07/21 10:35] Pooky Amsterdam: brb
*[2009/07/21 10:35] Bevan Whitfield: waves and poofs! and thanks clint - always fab !
*[2009/07/21 10:36] Clint Peccable: welcome :)
*[2009/07/21 10:36] Clint Peccable: i enjoyed it
*[2009/07/21 10:36] Alfred Kelberry: he's probably munching on his sammich right now :)
*[2009/07/21 10:36] Rex Cronon: nice to hear about your project clint:)
*[2009/07/21 10:36] Saijanai Kuhn: hope to see you round the water cooler in Groupies
*[2009/07/21 10:36] Malburns Writer: tks clint
*[2009/07/21 10:36] Clint Peccable: thanks rex
*[2009/07/21 10:36] Morgaine Dinova: Imaze, if you're still listening --- we have an IRC relay that we used for MMOX --- we could hook it to your group, now that MMOX is kinda dead.
*[2009/07/21 10:37] Rex Cronon: who knows clint maybe at one time your world might even allow users to create conent:)
*[2009/07/21 10:37] Alfred Kelberry: bye guys
*[2009/07/21 10:37] Rex Cronon: tc
*[2009/07/21 10:37] Saijanai Kuhn: can we use a specific awg room? I don't think we should use ietf's service or is that jabber-only?
*[2009/07/21 10:38] Rex Cronon: so no more announcements?
*[2009/07/21 10:38] Morgaine Dinova: The relay was IRC-only, and the IETF thing was Jabber-only .... no interop :-(
*[2009/07/21 10:38] Saijanai Kuhn: that seems to be it
*[2009/07/21 10:39] Morgaine Dinova: Gonna try to find the relay
*[2009/07/21 10:39] Morgaine Dinova: We could use it for #opensim
*[2009/07/21 10:39] Saijanai Kuhn: So there's an opensim meeting at 11 and IMaze's talk on the datatester
*[2009/07/21 10:39] Saijanai Kuhn: right?
*[2009/07/21 10:40] Mealea Ying: is it in Opensim or here?
*[2009/07/21 10:40] Saijanai Kuhn: OpenSim..
*[2009/07/21 10:40] Saijanai Kuhn: and Imaze is in IRC
*[2009/07/21 10:40] Mealea Ying: where do you know yet?
*[2009/07/21 10:40] Saijanai Kuhn: anyone know the answer to these and other questions?
*[2009/07/21 10:40] Rex Cronon: tc everybody. i usually say hi when i get here but today i didn't want to intrerrupt clint:)
*[2009/07/21 10:41] Mealea Ying: 42?
*[2009/07/21 10:42] Mealea Ying: basicly just get into opensim, and look at the map fror a large number of avitars i suppose
*[2009/07/21 10:42] Saijanai Kuhn: its a specific sim but can't remember the name Wright Plaza?
*[2009/07/21 10:42] Mealea Ying: ahhh I think thats what I have set as home
*[2009/07/21 10:44] TributeTim Kwak: 11 slt, right?
*[2009/07/21 10:45] Morgaine Dinova: Maybe the channel has to be set on QuickFox.net
*[2009/07/21 10:45] Mealea Ying: hehehe what time is opensim on?
*[2009/07/21 10:45] Mealea Ying: oh crap..... physics engine
*[2009/07/21 10:46] Mealea Ying: great.... maybe I will go do RL stuff so manty grids, ao many meetings such empty tummy!
*[2009/07/21 10:46] Kopilo Hallard: eat at your computer desk? :p
*[2009/07/21 10:47] Paperella di Gomma con il suono!: Squeek!
*[2009/07/21 10:47] TributeTim Kwak: ok. i gotta run, too. ty. very nice to hear whats going on. :-) bye for now
*[2009/07/21 10:47] Mealea Ying: yah... but Im going to ghave to cook
*[2009/07/21 10:47] Kopilo Hallard: ahh cool
*[2009/07/21 10:49] Mealea Ying: Have fun everyone!
*[2009/07/21 10:49] Pooky Amsterdam: See you all tonight at show!
*[2009/07/21 10:49] Morgaine Dinova: Cyu Mealea :-)
*[2009/07/21 10:49] Kopilo Hallard: see ya :)
*[2009/07/21 10:49] Mealea Ying grins and atempts to dash off
*[2009/07/21 10:50] Saijanai Kuhn: Imaze which channel for the IRC meeting ?
*[2009/07/21 10:52] Imaze Rhiano: #monodev - but really nothing to see there
*[2009/07/21 10:52] Saijanai Kuhn: so no-one there yet or you don'te xpect anyone?
*[2009/07/21 10:53] Imaze Rhiano: there is me and kumpera - and discussion is going really slowly forward
*[2009/07/21 10:53] Xugu Madison: Discussing how the verifier works, basically
*[2009/07/21 10:54] Saijanai Kuhn: Heading to andrew's I'll give him your notecard Imaze he might know lindens who are interested
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