Bug triage/2010-05-03/Transcript

* [11:58] Alexa Linden: Squirrel!!!
* [11:58] Alexa Linden: WB
* [11:58] Alexa Linden: I've missed you :)
* [11:58] Squirrel Wood: Hai ^^
* [11:58] Squirrel Wood: I've been out and about
* [11:59] Alexa Linden: ok who had the prodigy loop going
* [11:59] xstorm Radek: so what was it we bump off the grid all the lindens but soft or was it Alexa ?
* [11:59] xstorm Radek: lol
* [11:59] Squirrel Wood: be advised that it may rain doom at any time ^^
* [11:59] xstorm Radek: :-)
* [12:00] Tillie Ariantho: We are all doomed? ^^
* [12:00] Alexa Linden: pffft to both of you!
* [12:00] xstorm Radek: may i turn Alexa in to one prim ?
* [12:00] Alexa Linden: No Davy today
* [12:00] VISTAZHAO v1.4 fem: Could not find animation 'SP_Ashley Judd_10 Pose'
* [12:01] Alexa Linden: so you'll have to endure me and Soft
* [12:01] Squirrel Wood: Eek! I smell borken AO
* [12:01] xstorm Radek: OMG!! bad script AO
* [12:01] VISTAZHAO v1.4 fem: Could not find animation 'SP_Ashley Judd_10 Pose'.
* [12:01] Squirrel Wood: Gramma, your ao.. it screams errors. like, [12:00] VISTAZHAO v1.4 fem: Could not find animation 'SP_Ashley Judd_10 Pose'
* [12:01] Tillie Ariantho: ^^
* [12:01] Alexa Linden: lol
* [12:01] Aargle Zymurgy: hey! how are my favorite people?
* [12:01] Squirrel Wood: Hai
* [12:01] Alexa Linden: Hey Aargle :D
* [12:01] xstorm Radek: hi hi
* [12:01] Gramma Fiddlesticks: sorry. I turned it off.
* [12:01] Tillie Ariantho: Hello Soft. :)
* [12:01] Soft Linden: Hey hey
* [12:01] Squirrel Wood: be advised that it may rain doom at any time ^^
* [12:02] Alexa Linden: Hi Soft :)
* [12:02] Alexa Linden: Just you and me today
* [12:02] Soft Linden: Voice thing isn't fooling annnnnnnnyone.
* [12:02] xstorm Radek: i think i founf a error with zyno games lol
* [12:02] Alexa Linden: Holiday for Davy
* [12:02] Soft Linden: Bagh.
* [12:02] Alexa Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/2010-05-03
* [12:02] Aargle Zymurgy: bugs? no, those are features.
* [12:02] Soft Linden: This is why we beat them >:(
* [12:02] xstorm Radek: i can win more then 80% of the time
* [12:02] Alexa Linden: first up.... https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5428
* [12:03] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-5428] High Packet loss, Rubberbanding, Script runtime stops, various other issues since 1.36.2 emergency release.
* [12:03] xstorm Radek: i think its do to this server ver if you ask me
* [12:03] Soft Linden: This can be closed. They reopened an issue with specific sims for other purposes
* [12:03] Soft Linden: The original issue was because the handful of "McRib" deploy sims were on a host with network issues.
* [12:03] Ellla McMahon: this is more about the Grid settling down after the Outage
* [12:03] Alexa Linden: Xstorm is your Mic open and causing the sound?
* [12:04] Alexa Linden: ok soft
* [12:04] xstorm Radek: he he he he
* [12:04] Fred Gandt: A humming Alexa?
* [12:04] xstorm Radek: not real
* [12:04] Alexa Linden: yes
* [12:04] Fred Gandt: me sry
* [12:04] Alexa Linden: thanks Fred :)
* [12:04] Fred Gandt: 'mute me
* [12:04] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-19060
* [12:04] JIRA-helper: [#VWR-19060] When I purchase Linden Dollars, I have to close the viewer and restart it in order for the Lindens to appear in my account.
* [12:04] Alexa Linden: then I lose your chat
* [12:05] Fred Gandt: no loss there I think
* [12:05] Soft Linden: I thought Davy was going to link this to the internal issue last week.
* [12:05] xstorm Radek: there no dot lol
* [12:05] Alexa Linden: I did tooo I can check afterward...
* [12:05] Soft Linden: This is real, happens occasionally across all viewer versions, and only seems to have started a few weeks ago
* [12:05] Gramma Fiddlesticks: that happened to me with 1.23.5.
* [12:05] Soft Linden: May as well import, and if Davy can still find a dupe, then he can do the resolutions after?
* [12:06] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:06] Kaluura Boa: It happened to me but the other way... I sold Lindens and it didn't show on my balance
* [12:06] Drew Dwi: the sim is having issues >.>
* [12:06] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-16379
* [12:06] JIRA-helper: [#VWR-16379] After installing OS X 10.6.x Snow Leopard on the mac with nVidia 7600 GT, atmospheric shaders and local lights both on = black terrain and no full bright prims
* [12:06] Techwolf Lupindo: Ok. This sim is stuck at .10 to .20 Time Dilation.
* [12:07] Drew Dwi: Images Time has gone nuts
* [12:07] xstorm Radek: never seen that on the test server
* [12:07] Soft Linden: I'd import this - good, clear summary. A graphics dev might have an "a ha!" for that.
* [12:07] Alexa Linden: k
* [12:08] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-3377
* [12:08] xstorm Radek: yes
* [12:08] JIRA-helper: [#MISC-3377] terrain in raw file is not the same
* [12:08] Soft Linden: Fred - if you land/sit, does the noise stop?
* [12:09] Soft Linden: I don't know if the downloaded version would necessarily match...
* [12:09] Fred Gandt: there is no off switch
* [12:10] xstorm Radek: never seen a real match
* [12:10] Alexa Linden: can you detach it?
* [12:10] Squirrel Wood: black terrain... its the nvidia 7000 series cards that do it
* [12:10] Soft Linden: Oh, they're downloading and uploading again without any edits?
* [12:11] Soft Linden: This would be pretty easy to test if that's the case
* [12:11] Squirrel Wood: I did comment on the terrain stuff
* [12:11] Squirrel Wood: perchance they forgot to bake the changes before exporting
* [12:11] Soft Linden: Huh. I thought the baked bit was in a separate layer.
* [12:12] Soft Linden: Well, layers since there's the weird multiplier and then the regular bit.
* [12:12] OMG!! Where are my legs!!??: Could not find sound .
* [12:12] xstorm Radek: image size is not the same too
* [12:12] Squirrel Wood: baking sets the terrain you can revert to after changing it
* [12:12] Soft Linden: Right.
* [12:12] Alexa Linden: yup
* [12:12] Alexa Linden: NMI then?
* [12:12] Squirrel Wood: so I assume that is what gets exported too
* [12:12] Soft Linden: But if they're downloading and uploading again without reverting, something would seem to be up.
* [12:12] Alexa Linden: wait for a response?
* [12:13] Squirrel Wood: they may download an old bake
* [12:13] Soft Linden: Honestly, I think I'd just punch the date on it and see if it gets more votes.
* [12:13] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:13] Squirrel Wood: and may have made changes to the terrain but not baked it before exporting
* [12:13] Soft Linden: If we imported a one vote issue now that was this old, it would sit unresolved forever.
* [12:13] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3503
* [12:13] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-3503] offline IMs don't get shown always at next login
* [12:14] Soft Linden: This says sometimes they appear on the second login?
* [12:14] Alexa Linden: dup
* [12:14] Soft Linden: Has anyone else seen that?
* [12:14] Drew Dwi: Created: 22/Nov/08 05:20 PM
* [12:14] Alexa Linden: re-resolving as dup
* [12:14] Alexa Linden: ?
* [12:14] Tillie Ariantho: Yes, I have seen that.
* [12:14] Tillie Ariantho: Silver Key is my alt. :P
* [12:14] Drew Dwi: this happends randomly due to a ton of things I imagine, no good way to reproduce it that I know of
* [12:15] Aargle Zymurgy: I've seen it before as well, but since they already rolled to my e-mail, I never really worried about it.
* [12:15] Tillie Ariantho: Sometimes I dont get IMs and notices and stuff at a log in.
* [12:15] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I've seen it too as well as getting IM's sent to email as me being offline, when I am actually online!
* [12:15] xstorm Radek: what year was that bug ?
* [12:15] Tillie Ariantho: But on logout and another login I suddenly get swamped.
* [12:15] Drew Dwi: yea, if the simulator you login to is super lagged you won't get them among other things
* [12:15] Tillie Ariantho: ah
* [12:15] Roland RiddlerRoland Riddler nods, and uses wufoo for offline communication
* [12:15] Alexa Linden: this was marked dup but never resolved dup
* [12:15] Gramma Fiddlesticks: ahhh. So it's the sim?
* [12:16] Tillie Ariantho: Maybe just close it, it is quite old and I only saw it 2 or 3 times, and not recently.
* [12:16] xstorm Radek: did there IM's get cap ?
* [12:16] xstorm Radek: they need more info
* [12:16] Tillie Ariantho: If it ever happens again, I will reopen or create a new, maybe with more details.
* [12:16] Alexa Linden: yup
* [12:16] Alexa Linden: and this was is similar....https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5251
* [12:16] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-5251] Offline messages not being sent to email
* [12:17] Gramma Fiddlesticks: dum,b question maybe, but do IM's sometiems cap when you are online?
* [12:17] Alexa Linden: I supposed they could..... soft?
* [12:17] xstorm Radek: i think if they come in to fast or to many at one time
* [12:17] Soft Linden: Yeah. I'd "can't repro," see if anyone spots it recently
* [12:17] Soft Linden: Or NMI - Still happening? Whatever that is!
* [12:17] Skills Hak: they don't cap when you are online but sometimes they are lost and you get them as offlines on your next login
* [12:17] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:18] Gramma Fiddlesticks: ahhh, thanks Skills.
* [12:18] Tillie Ariantho: There really needs to be a split between notices,prim IMs and real IMs,I dont care about lost notices or prim IMs, but I want to get all user IMs. ^^
* [12:18] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5610
* [12:18] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-5610] llSetTorque(x,TRUE) will cause an active llSetForce(x,FALSE) call to become a llSetForce(y,TRUE) call.
* [12:18] xstorm Radek: i got hit with 100 error IM it game me a time out i think
* [12:18] Soft Linden: IM-to-email is helpful. Also never teleporting while talking :/
* [12:19] Aargle Zymurgy: hm... that's odd, Soft, I've never lost chat due to tp'ing
* [12:19] Soft Linden: I'd ask for repro scripts on this. This is pretty deep.
* [12:19] Alexa Linden: k
* [12:19] Soft Linden: Aargle - it's really, really easy to repro. Make an object that sits there IMing you sequential numbers and TP a few times.
* [12:19] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-893
* [12:19] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-893] Right shift operator (>) fills extra bits with 1 instead of 0 when the most significant bit of the number is set.
* [12:20] Aargle Zymurgy: hm... ok... I'll give that a try, but I was all over SL yesterday and never had an issue
* [12:20] Soft Linden: You'll see them in email if you have im-to-email enabled. Same happens with conversations.
* [12:20] Drew Dwi: 27/Oct/07 05:08 PM
* [12:20] Soft Linden: Ah, this has been for years. Possibly as long as IM has existed.
* [12:20] Soft Linden: The problem is, your presence gets removed from one sim before it's established on another. So you've effectively logged out between regions in a teleport.
* [12:21] Soft Linden: This is expected behavior for a signed value
* [12:21] Aargle Zymurgy: isn't that "error" teh way it works?
* [12:21] Soft Linden: Yup.
* [12:21] xstorm Radek: Soft later may i show you one that needs looking at its starting to make more errors for me
* [12:21] Alexa Linden: Expected Behavior for 893?
* [12:21] Drew Dwi: yea
* [12:21] Alexa Linden: k
* [12:21] Aargle Zymurgy: until LSL supports unsigned values, I'd just expect that.
* [12:21] Soft Linden: xstorm - maybe bring it up at the end of the triage?
* [12:21] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-10240
* [12:21] JIRA-helper: [#VWR-10240] Viewer crash while taking snapshot (with fanciful proportion)
* [12:21] xstorm Radek: ok thank you
* [12:21] Alexa Linden: older....
* [12:22] Alexa Linden: NMI still a problem?
* [12:22] Soft Linden: "fanciful proportion" :)
* [12:22] Drew Dwi: yea... how we getting all this 07, 08, 09 stuff lol
* [12:22] xstorm Radek: ?
* [12:22] Alexa Linden: 1.21 isn't supported
* [12:22] Drew Dwi: Created: 31/Oct/08 03:47 PM
* [12:22] Alexa Linden: because we're not doing VWR issues
* [12:22] Soft Linden: They're running out of RAM
* [12:22] Drew Dwi: ah
* [12:22] Alexa Linden: so we're cleaning out the closets!
* [12:22] Soft Linden: Still. This is ancient. I'd hope we at least handle it better now.
* [12:23] xstorm Radek: good
* [12:23] Soft Linden: Yeah, NMI ask if it still crashes or merely fails.
* [12:23] Techwolf Lupindo: About time these bug got looked at.
* [12:23] Drew Dwi: wouldn't it be better to pretty much mass nmi anything that is say older than 1.23?
* [12:23] Tillie Ariantho: Those crashes are just about size and/or memory I think. I tried some really big snapshots and the client crashed each time.
* [12:23] Alexa Linden: ok speeding along here... next one will be nmi too :p
* [12:23] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-10429
* [12:23] JIRA-helper: [#VWR-10429] Snapshot to disk hang on new unibody MacBook Pro with Nvidia 9600M GT
* [12:23] Alexa Linden: jinx Drew
* [12:23] Drew Dwi: ^^
* [12:23] Soft Linden: This -has- to be a dupe
* [12:23] Tillie Ariantho: Client crashes too each time if its memory is at about 1,4GB and you hit snapshot. memory error, poof.
* [12:23] Drew Dwi: I'll see if it'll let me create a search
* [12:23] Soft Linden: Mac snapshot timeouts are forever.
* [12:23] Alexa Linden: ya, I'll hunt it down
* [12:24] Alexa Linden: next is https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-10486
* [12:24] JIRA-helper: [#VWR-10486] Worn vehicle attachments lose their rotation when viewed approaching from out of visual range or teleporting to vehicle.
* [12:24] Alexa Linden: 1.21
* [12:24] xstorm Radek: i still say we need a group to clean out dups
* [12:24] Object: Hello, Avatar!
* [12:24] Tillie Ariantho: I still vote for removing the snapshot window completely. I have found THAT many bugs that its better to rewrite it from scratch. O.o
* [12:24] Alexa Linden: you raising a hand ^^?
* [12:24] Alexa Linden: lol
* [12:25] Tillie Ariantho: I am now using FRAPS for photos cause of all the bugs in snapshots.
* [12:25] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-11025
* [12:25] JIRA-helper: [#VWR-11025] Coalesced items lost after refused rezing (similar to VWR-7194)
* [12:25] Squirrel Wood: if worn vehicle attachments lose their rotation then what about other attachments?
* [12:25] Alexa Linden: this is old... and I think a dup
* [12:25] xstorm Radek: OMG!! i had that one happen lol
* [12:25] Alexa Linden: me too
* [12:25] xstorm Radek: only on the Aditi server
* [12:26] xstorm Radek: lol
* [12:26] Alexa Linden: a new one! https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5724
* [12:26] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-5724] land not showing in search all
* [12:26] xstorm Radek: Search is not working for me at all
* [12:26] Soft Linden: We had a related problem....
* [12:27] Soft Linden: A few weeks ago, there was the issue where PG stuff wasn't showing up in searches if Mature and Adult were also checked
* [12:27] Drew Dwi: there are a bunch of different JIRA's in all saying search is just not working
* [12:27] Alexa Linden: I can go back and try to find it and connect/link
* [12:27] xstorm Radek: no search is not working at all it freez on me
* [12:27] Soft Linden: But I'd really bet it's that
* [12:28] Fred Gandt: I had all 3 maturity levels checked when I tested that one. Shall I add a note?
* [12:28] Soft Linden: Sure
* [12:28] xstorm Radek: i bet its more then that ;-)
* [12:28] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2820
* [12:28] JIRA-helper: [#VWR-2820] Shift copy leaves the copy and moves the original - wrong behavior
* [12:28] Ellla McMahon: this Parcel name is still not appearing in Search All
* [12:28] Fred Gandt: k
* [12:28] Alexa Linden: Expected Behavior....
* [12:28] Soft Linden: Fred - also try unchecking adult and mature as appropriate, see if it appears?
* [12:28] Tillie Ariantho: But its still confusing.
* [12:29] Fred Gandt: okies
* [12:29] Alexa Linden: yes, it's not what I expect
* [12:29] Soft Linden: This is deliberate, yeah.
* [12:29] Alexa Linden: and ya, Tillie very confusing
* [12:29] Soft Linden: The problem is if you moved the new one, there wouldn't be a new one to move for as much as several seconds
* [12:29] Alexa Linden: but dies work as coded
* [12:29] Alexa Linden: Does work*
* [12:29] Soft Linden: So you'd shift-copy, then sit and wait to see if the copy succeeded or not before positioning.
* [12:30] Alexa Linden: next one is a Needs more info - still an issue and please update
* [12:30] Tillie Ariantho: hm
* [12:30] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1878
* [12:30] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-1878] Drastically reduced simulator performance in most sims this morning
* [12:30] Fred Gandt: sounds like a resolution
* [12:30] Tillie Ariantho: Soft: yah, true thing. ^^
* [12:31] Alexa Linden: wow... more oldie moldies....
* [12:31] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1994
* [12:31] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-1994] llSetForce not affecting flying av correctly
* [12:31] Drew Dwi: Created: 02/Apr/08 10:41 PM
* [12:31] xstorm Radek: ok why such old BUGs ? if this flash back week ?
* [12:31] Alexa Linden: as I said before
* [12:32] Fred Gandt: I have been using llSetForce on a HUD I made for months with no issues. Tested again today. No problems.
* [12:32] Alexa Linden: it's because all Viewer 2.0 issues are NOT handled in this triage
* [12:32] Alexa Linden: they are in the Weds. triage
* [12:32] Drew Dwi: are you able to search against old versions which are not shown in the dropdowns on jira?
* [12:32] Soft Linden: I'd close this. We shouldn't change the way that push works this late after the fact.
* [12:32] Alexa Linden: so we're gettimg some old and some new things....
* [12:33] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:33] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2235
* [12:33] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-2235] Traffic has not updated on my land in 4 days
* [12:33] Soft Linden: Latest "Contact Support" ev-ar
* [12:33] Drew Dwi: Created: 26/Apr/08 10:41 AM
* [12:33] Tillie Ariantho: traffic sucks anyway. :P
* [12:33] Alexa Linden: don't sim restarts sometime reset traffic?
* [12:33] Fred Gandt: Has it had reason to update?
* [12:33] xstorm Radek: i get that error too
* [12:33] Drew Dwi: 2 years old
* [12:33] Alexa Linden: support it is
* [12:34] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2277
* [12:34] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-2277] llSitTarget doesn't produce the right offset if given a nonzero rotation
* [12:34] Drew Dwi: Created: 02/May/08 10:36 AM
* [12:34] Soft Linden: In a case like that, support can do a good job of collecting similar reports, and escalating to execs if it's a widespread issue.
* [12:34] xstorm Radek: thats why i asked if they can setup a trafic information page for the users
* [12:34] Tillie Ariantho: People should rely on quality, not on traffic. ^^
* [12:35] Alexa Linden: support on this one soft
* [12:35] xstorm Radek: im sorry i will not put any stock in support the Ontyne still ned training
* [12:35] Alexa Linden: or the last one
* [12:35] Soft Linden: Last one
* [12:35] Alexa Linden: k
* [12:35] Drew Dwi: 2277
* [12:35] Soft Linden: This one would really need to be a feature request for a new function.
* [12:35] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:35] Soft Linden: Fixing the existing one would break loads and loads of content
* [12:36] Fred Gandt: Strife has spake
* [12:36] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2862
* [12:36] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-2862] Group Search Member Count Inaccurate
* [12:36] xstorm Radek: is it ?
* [12:36] Drew Dwi: Created: 28/Oct/07 09:11 PM
* [12:36] Alexa Linden: pfft
* [12:36] Drew Dwi: this has existed for years, suprised there its not a dupe
* [12:36] Drew Dwi: larger the group, less accurate the count
* [12:37] Soft Linden: I think the issue is that cancelled accounts are counted in one case and not the other.
* [12:37] Tillie Ariantho: Someone should replace counts with one, two, three, many, lots. :P Might speed up lots of stuff. ^^
* [12:37] Soft Linden: But they do remain members of the group.
* [12:37] xstorm Radek: well group is broken in spots any way
* [12:37] Alexa Linden: good point soft
* [12:37] Soft Linden: I'd retitle this to "Group counts should omit inactive accounts"
* [12:37] Soft Linden: And import that way
* [12:37] Alexa Linden: k
* [12:37] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-349
* [12:37] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-349] Avatar Rotation on X and Y axii non-zero after teleport
* [12:38] Fred Gandt: Less simple to test too. Inaccuracy is bound to occure the larger it gets. Counting heads is tough in SL
* [12:38] Aargle Zymurgy: rl crisis. gotta run. thanks for your time Alexa and Soft!
* [12:38] Alexa Linden: Bye Aargle! hope all's ok!
* [12:38] Soft Linden: Thanks for showing!
* [12:38] xstorm Radek: may i post one now ?
* [12:39] Alexa Linden: thoughts on 349?
* [12:39] Soft Linden: I'd import this and assign it directly to Andrew, given that he assigned it to himself externally
* [12:39] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:39] Fred Gandt: That might answer a lot of other issues people have with scripted attachments.
* [12:39] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4152
* [12:39] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4152] Scripts using state changes are misreported in "Top Scripts
* [12:40] xstorm Radek: i had that happen ony one time
* [12:40] Soft Linden: I'd import this for QA
* [12:40] Soft Linden: I
* [12:41] Alexa Linden: k
* [12:41] Soft Linden: If this is real, this is a -great- find
* [12:41] Tillie Ariantho: About that x,y rotation, I still vote for a new movement system here, anyway. Additional commands or something else that is undestandable for non-mathematics, too. :P
* [12:41] Fred Gandt: Should you not get a measure of the performance of the script as it runs (per state)?
* [12:41] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4170
* [12:41] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4170] llKey2Name returns avatar names with double space between first and last (sometimes)
* [12:41] Tillie Ariantho: It's hell to get some stuff rotated/moved. ;)
* [12:41] xstorm Radek: thats not good
* [12:41] Soft Linden: Yeah, I've seen this guy
* [12:42] Soft Linden: Sec, this may be a dupe
* [12:42] Soft Linden: I can't find it
* [12:42] Soft Linden: Yeah, I'd import!
* [12:42] Alexa Linden: k
* [12:42] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4360
* [12:42] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4360] llDetectedType() does not return AGENT for avatars sitting on objects
* [12:43] Drew Dwi: this is the same thing as (Loading...) which is just as annoying
* [12:43] Fred Gandt: btw..I had no idea my humming was so loud. Apologies to all.
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: np and thanks Fred :)
* [12:43] Soft Linden: I'd import this for QA, given the nice repro script
* [12:43] Soft Linden: Thanks for fixing it, Fred :3
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:43] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4478
* [12:43] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4478] Using PARCEL_MEDIA_COMMAND_AGENT with llParcelMediaCommandList() when parcel's media URL is set causes previous video replay
* [12:43] xstorm Radek: oh thats a new one
* [12:44] Alexa Linden: WB Skills
* [12:44] xstorm Radek: is that like a loop ?
* [12:44] Skills Hak: thanks :)
* [12:44] xstorm Radek: i seen that last year
* [12:44] xstorm Radek: never got it to happen again
* [12:45] Alexa Linden: nmi still a problem?
* [12:45] xstorm Radek: any one ?
* [12:45] xstorm Radek: can you test it ?
* [12:45] Drew Dwi: Created: 01/Jul/09 05:52 PM
* [12:45] Drew Dwi: see if can repro against 1.38 ?
* [12:45] Soft Linden: This would most likely be a viewer issue...
* [12:46] Alexa Linden: kk
* [12:46] Soft Linden: Given that the media code was totally rewritten for 2.0...
* [12:46] Alexa Linden: ya
* [12:46] Alexa Linden: nmi
* [12:46] Drew Dwi: yea, w/v2
* [12:46] Soft Linden: I'd NMI, asking if this still happens on 2.0
* [12:46] Soft Linden: Yus.
* [12:46] Alexa Linden: 3 left in the agenda!!
* [12:46] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4721
* [12:46] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4721] Lists created between jump / execute jump and recalled after execute, return a c#-error;
* [12:47] Object: Hello, Avatar!
* [12:47] Object: Object [script:New Script] Script run-time error
* [12:47] Object: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
* at LindenLab.SecondLife.Library.llList2String (System.Collections.ArrayList list, Int32 i) [0x00000] 
* at ....edefaultstate_entry () [0x00000] 
* at ...edefaultstate_entryFrame.ResumeVoid () [0x00000] 
* at LindenLab.SecondLife.UThread.UThread.Run () [0x00000] 
* at LindenLab.SecondLife.Script.Run (ScriptEvent evt) [0x00000] 
* [12:47] Drew Dwi: ouchies
* [12:47] Soft Linden: I'd say this is expected behavior. That's never been supported.
* [12:47] Drew Dwi: that repros
* [12:47] Alexa Linden: ok
* [12:47] Soft Linden: The easy fix is to declare the list before the jump.
* [12:47] Drew Dwi: Object [script:New Script] Script run-time error
* System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
* at LindenLab.SecondLife.Library.llList2String (System.Collections.ArrayList list, Int32 i) [0x00000] 
* at ....edefaultstate_entry () [0x00000] 
* at ...edefaultstate_entryFrame.ResumeVoid () [0x00000] 
* at LindenLab.SecondLife.UThread.UThread.Run () [0x00000] 
* at LindenLab.SecondLife.Script.Run (ScriptEvent evt) [0x00000]
* [12:47] Drew Dwi: yea, but it shouldn't do that?
* [12:47] Tillie Ariantho: jump? who uses THAT? Thats a GOTO! Gotos are Basic, and basic sucks. :P
* [12:47] Alexa Linden: hey now!
* [12:48] Alexa Linden: that was my first computer class in 1982
* [12:48] Tillie Ariantho: :D
* [12:48] xstorm Radek: lol
* [12:48] Soft Linden: This is basically a feature request to change the language for something no sane people do anyway. Just sayin'!
* [12:48] Alexa Linden: lol
* [12:48] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2277
* [12:48] JIRA-helper: [#SVC-2277] llSitTarget doesn't produce the right offset if given a nonzero rotation
* [12:48] Drew Dwi: yea but its causing a crash when its run
* [12:48] Tillie Ariantho: Yah, did Basic too, back then on my C64. ;)
* [12:48] xstorm Radek: my first computer class was 1' and 0's
* [12:48] Drew Dwi: on the simulator of the LSL
* [12:48] Alexa Linden: hahaha
* [12:48] Soft Linden: The sim doesn't crash anymore. The error you see there is what replaces the sim crash.
* [12:49] Soft Linden: But yes. This behavior used to crash sims.
* [12:49] Gramma FiddlesticksGramma Fiddlesticks thnks "sanity" is like "beauty. It's in the eyes of the beholder. *grin
* [12:49] Alexa Linden: LOL
* [12:49] Soft Linden: I thought we did 2277!
* [12:49] Alexa Linden: that's a keeper Gramma :D
* [12:49] Drew Dwi: we did
* [12:49] Alexa Linden: ok dups in agenda
* [12:49] xstorm Radek: dup lol
* [12:49] Alexa Linden: one more!
* [12:49] Drew Dwi: no
* [12:49] Drew Dwi: wait
* [12:49] Drew Dwi: we did
* [12:49] Drew Dwi: 3377
* [12:50] Alexa Linden: hey
* [12:50] Alexa Linden: we're done
* [12:50] Alexa Linden: O.o
* [12:50] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Yay!
* [12:50] xstorm Radek: may i now post ?
* [12:50] Alexa Linden: RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!
* [12:50] Alexa Linden: sure
* [12:50] Soft Linden: On 2277, the resolution was to ask for a new function, since changing the existing one would break many things.
* [12:50] Soft Linden: Yeah, xstorm had an issue
* [12:50] xstorm Radek: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-17461
* [12:50] Drew Dwi: just 1?
* [12:50] JIRA-helper: [#VWR-17461] Search produces Authorization Token Missing
* [12:50] xstorm Radek: please i have no search
* [12:50] Drew Dwi: yea we talked about this at Yoz office hour
* [12:50] Tillie Ariantho: llSitTargetFixed() as new function? :P
* [12:51] Fred Gandt: spot on Soft.
* [12:51] Soft Linden: Pretty much.
* [12:51] xstorm Radek: search is not working on this server
* [12:51] Alexa Linden: this is imported xstorm
* [12:51] Soft Linden: And this one, the issue was turning off cookies
* [12:51] Soft Linden: Unfortuantely, search relies on cookies. So it confuses itself.
* [12:51] xstorm Radek: but it works on Aditi
* [12:51] Fred Gandt: Cookies sound so much yummier
* [12:52] Soft Linden: Wild
* [12:52] xstorm Radek: same settings on Aditi as on agni
* [12:52] Gramma Fiddlesticks: gotta run to rl now guys. Hungry teens will be arriving any minute at Gramma's hopuse! Thanks Soft and Alexa.
* [12:52] Drew Dwi: clear your settings?
* [12:52] Soft Linden: It may have a newer version of search? Regardless, it's imported for the search team.
* [12:52] Drew Dwi: oh
* [12:52] Alexa Linden: Thank you all for an outstanding triage today!
* [12:52] Alexa Linden: I'll see some on you Weds!
* [12:52] xstorm Radek: ok thank you
* [12:52] Alexa Linden: thank you all :D