S and H (Starsky and Hutch letterzine)/Issues 16-20

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Sneak Preview: A new editor takes over and this sets the stage for a discussion over whether to censor zine reviews or simply ban them altogether. The publisher of the first m/m zine, Forever Autumn, talks about the risk to m/m zine publishers when underage fans lie in their age statements (as one fan apparently did). There is yet more discussion about m/m in the fandom (both for and against), however, for the first time Christianity is explicitly brought into the debate. The rifts between the two groups seems to be steadily growing. The first US m/m zine, Code 7 is still in the works, but the publishers express worry that the anti-m/m factions might do something more than just complain about its publication. No details are given as to what exactly they are worrying about although age statement issues are mentioned. And finally, the second Zebracon and its associated Huggy Awards are considered a success.
==S and H 16 (December 1980)==
* contains 44 pages
* art by Jane Davis, Jeff Dixon, Betty de Gabriele, Greg Franklin, Don Hunter, Ruth Kurz, Jan Lindner, Marilyn Mink, Joy Mancinelli, Cheryl Newsome, Sheiler Nichols and Kathy Pentland, Sue S (front cover)
* the editor of "Off Duty" says she's had a few submissions and a couple of stories promised, but still has lots of room for stories, poems and art. She doesn't know when she'll be printing the zine. 
* the organizers of Zebra Con #2 reported there were 92 attendees (compared to 49 last year) and 34 supporting members. They were able to give $475 to charity, not as much as last year but "the expenses were much higher and people were a lot poorer."
* a fan notes that for a place called Bay City, there is very little water shown
* fans weigh in on having their phone numbers published in the letterzine. Some like it, some don't (citing phone calls at odd times due to time zones, and citing phone bills that are already too high), and some say they don't have phones
* there is much discussion and extrapolation as fans compare and contrast "The Pilot" and the "Targets/Sweet Revenge Trilogy"
* the editors talk of ceasing the letterzine, citing health problems and lack of interest in the fandom; they hope to find someone to take over for 3–6 months	
* a fan asks for more care-and-feeding of writers and better editing, saying that she has heard of too many zines lately that have been postponed or canceled and that "S & H fandom is fragile, and needs our loving attention to flourish. Don't simply sit back and expect to be fed."	
* a con report for Zebra Con #2
* a review for My Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys that is both positive and yet "disappointing," see that page for more.
* a review for My Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys that is a little more positive than the prior one, Hopscotch, but also comments on the OMC that reminded her of a Dirty Harry character, and that there was an emotional distance between Starsky and Hutch, see that page for more.
* a review for Casa Cabrillo, "Recommended, with reservations," see that page for more
* for sale by Melanie R, the "1981 S&H Calendar, a 6-page, 12 month, 11x17 visual delight. Artwork by Faddis, Lindner, Landon, de Gabriele, Kurz, Franklin. One hundred copies printed, no reprints." 
* proposed zines: All Our World in Us, Code 7, L.A. Vespers #2, "Off Duty", Pushin' the Odds, Ten-Thirteen, The Zine from U.N.C.L.E.
* canceled and delayed zines: Dirtball Dispatch #2, Blond Blintz Bulletin, "Episode List" (complicated by the publication of the Starsky and Hutch Concordance), Me and Thee #2
* forthcoming zines: Graven Images, Paladin #2, Records and Information	
* available zines: Crossfire, Casa Cabrillo, Hopscotch, Index (an index of contributors to this letterzine, #1-#12), L.A. Vespers #1, My Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys, Paladin, One Shot, The Pits, Records and Information, Sins of the Father, Zebra Three #2 and #5	
* oop zines: Blond Blintz Bulletin, Copkiller, Currents #1, Dirtball Dispatch, Forever Autumn, Me and Thee #1, Partners, The Pits #1, Promises to Keep, The Striped Tomato, Zebra Three #1, #3, #4
* regarding the back page of issue #15, a reader asks: "Could we have Hutch in a wreath of daffodils next time? Please?" In issue #17, there is a response.
* the first letter starts off with a scold: 
* another fan complains (perhaps tongue-in-cheek) about the last issue's subtitle of "litterzine" rather than "letterzine.": 
* a fan says she has seen a copy of Casa Cabrillo: 
* One English fan writes: 
* the creator of Forever Autumn writes that she has learned that: 
* a fan who gives her address as “Anonymous Lane, State of Anonymous” writes: 
* a fan suggests there is a mid-point between S&H and S/H and that is S-(?)-H. She goes on to write: 
* A fan responds to another’s previous letter using camera angles to analyze whether Starsky & Hutch kissed/almost kissed in the alley scene in the episode, “The Fix”: 
* The same fan writes: 
* a writer counts and comments on the number of episodes that have truly positive endings and comes up with only a few: 
* a fan says: 
* there is an announcement that there will be no Dirtball Dispatch or Blond Blintz Bulletin #2: 
* a fan says she has seen a lot of others' unpublished fiction: 
* an ad from fan: 
File:Sandh16insidegregfranklin2.jpg|from issue #16, Greg Franklin
File:Sandh16insidelindner.jpg|from issue #16, Jan Lindner
File:Sandh16inside16betty.jpg|from issue #16, Betty de Gabriele
File:Sandh16insidegregfranklin.jpg|from issue #16, Greg Franklin
File:Sandh16insidedixon.jpg|from issue #16, Jeff Dixon
File:Sandh16cartoon.jpg|from issue #16, some fandom cross-pollination by Marilyn Mink
File:Sandh16insidedonhunter.jpg|from issue #16, Don Hunter
==S and H 17 (January 1981)==
* contains 44 pages
* art by Jane Davis, Jeff Dixon, Pat Harris, Don Hunter, Signe Landon, Joy Mancinelli, Marilyn Mink, Cheryl Newsome (cover) and T’Vas
* All Our World in Us is advertised, slated to be published by Bound in Leather Press “next summer”
* there are several short Z Con reports
* fan talks of trying to start a British letterzine, but there doesn’t seem to be much interest for it; she has gotten only a handful of jokes and two letters
* the editor of the proposed zine, "Off Duty," says she doesn’t have enough submissions yet and unless she gets more, there won’t be a zine.
* the 16 year-old (“and a half!”) fan who ordered Forever Autumn despite the age statement and who was scolded in the last issue says she had her mother’s permission and that, in any case, she was also an emancipated minor, and she states: "In matters such as this it gives me the rights of an 18-year old."
* there is an announcement that the next three issues will be edited by Paula Smith; the letterzine’s editors say they feel confident in Smith’s editing: 
* an editorial by Paula Smith, the new editor, called “The Velvet Hand in the Iron Glove OR Godzilla of Sunnybrook Farm” says in part: 
* the intensity of the letterzine begins to increase as a few subscribers apparently take the gloves off and respond to one fan/writer/reviewer who is known for her often contentious/critical letters. A small sample of some of the replies:
* fan disagrees with another’s review of My Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys in the last issue: 
* a fan writes of her belief that if Starsky had died at the end of ‘Sweet Revenge’: 
* a fan bemoans the lack of upcoming zines: 
* another fan asks: 
* a fan is disappointed in the m/m stories: 
* one fan writes (and follows up in a later issue with a diagram) that she has studied the "kiss in the alley” in “The Fix” and despite the fact she like to see one, platonic or sexual, that as an artist with much experience in rendering three dimensional objects to two dimensions, the kiss just isn’t there: 
* fan writes that: 
* a writer says: 
* the editor of Code 7 says the first issue is all filled up and any more submissions will go into a second issue: 
* a writer says: 
* there is a review of Casa Cabrillo that starts out with: 
* why do we create fanworks: 
File:Sandh17insidelandon.jpg|from issue #17 by Signe Landon, a companion piece to an earlier piece of Starsky and the request, "Could we have Hutch in a wreath of daffodils next time? Please?"
File:Sandh17insidedonhunter.jpg|from issue #17, Don Hunter
File:Sandhinside17newsome.jpg|from issue #17, Cheryl Newsome
File:Sandh17insidepatharris.jpg|from issue #17, Pat Harris
File:Sandh17insidetvas.jpg|from issue #17, T'Vas
File:Sandh17jeffdixon.jpg|from issue #17, Jeff Dixon
==S and H 18 (February 1981)==
* contains 56 pages
* art by D. Hunter, R. Kurz (cover), J. Mancinelli, C. Newsome, P. Smith and T’Vas
* submissions are requested for a zine called “Soapy Scenes”
* there is an announcement that the the third Z Con is set. They have a date and a place and just need to sign the contract. The "darling man who showed up last time has promised to return for the whole con! Brave soul." The darling man was the spokesperson for the con’s charity, “the Prevent Child Abuse people” and at the last con, attendees included him in the auction in a humorous way. 
* the editor of Records and Information hopes to have a second issue out in late February
* there is much discussion about “Timelines” in the show, i.e.: did S&H serve in the military together, how much time passes during the four seasons, how long was Hutch married, and how everything fits together
* several zine editors respond to the underage fan’s letter regarding the purchase of Forever Autumn, saying that it matters not that she is an “emancipated minor” --- under 18 is under 18
* the editor of Ten-Thirteen says: 
* a fan ponders an earlier fans letter and writes: 
* in their announcement on page 1 of the letterzine, the Code 7 editors required an age statement with every order and limit one zine per order. Presumably, this is to prevent the sale and purchase of m/m fan fiction to minors, something that was discussed in issues #16 and #17: 
* a fan responds to another fan’s letter in the previous issue: 
* a fan echoes another’s comment that writing to this letterzine can make an average/new fan:
* a fan writes: 
* a fan takes another to task for taking another fan to task: 
* the editor of The Striped Tomato explains the errors in the zine: 
* a fan agrees with a letter in the previous issue: 
* a fan wants to know why folks aren’t writing: 
* a fan explains the lack of lay-stories: 
* a fan writes in defense of honest zine reviews: 
* one fan tells another: 
* a fan doesn't like the UK word for "slash", which is "stroke": 
* fan encourages some other fans to continue writing in both Starsky and Hutch and Professionals: 
* a fan doesn’t consider Starsky and Hutch to be homosexual but she is a great supporter of S/H: 
* a fan want to know: 
* from a fan who lives in an area where the show is not rerun, does not own a VCR, and only saw the show during its first run: 
* a fan writes: 
* a fan dislikes the reviews as she finds them often cruel, demeaning and ultimately discouraging: 
* from a fan regarding My Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys: 
* the editor clarifies her comment about “modified censorship”: 
File:Sandh18insidenewsome2.jpg|from issue #18 by Cheryl Newsome
File:Sandh18insidetvas.jpg|from issue #18 by T'Vas
File:Sandh18insidejoymancinelli.jpg|from issue #18 by Joy Mancinelli
File:Sandh18insidenewsome.jpg|from issue #18 by Cheryl Newsome
File:Sandh18insidedonhunter.jpg|from issue #18 by Don Hunter
==S and H 19 (March 1981)==
* contains 52 pages
* Paula Smith says she’s been asked to remain on as editor until May and then a new editor, [M R], will take over
* It has a variation of the title on the cover, "A Starsky and Hutch comment, review, snarl, and letterzine." 
* there is more discussion over timelines in canon
* there is some more discussion regarding "where are all the women in the show?"
* art by S. Bird, Jean C., C. Faddis, R. Kurz, J. Mancinelli, C. Newsome, T’Vas
* a fan disagrees with the “unkiss” and provides a helpful diagram along with extremely complicated description of angles and trajectories and profiles
* the mother of the aforementioned-underage-ordering-fan writes and says she was the one who ordered Forever Autumn. She provides her phone number and offers to send a copy of her driver’s license.
* a fan likes and dislikes the idea of the “modified censorship” but has no idea how it could reasonably applied: 
* another fan comments: 
* a British fan says: 
* the editor of Code 7 writes: 
* an editor takes another to task for blaming her typist and printer for errors: 
* a fan writes: 
* a fan addresses another one personally: 
* regarding stories with serious female love interest: 
* a fan comments on H/C: 
* a fan is furious with another fan [they are both working on a well-known zine together; one is the writer, the other the artist] and tells her so: 
* a fan writes: 
* regarding the flap about the underage fan ordering Forever Autumn: 
* a fan contemplates S/H: '
* a fan comments on Harry/Johnny: 
* about the lack of women/love interests on the show?: 
* fan suggests a symbol change: 
* a fan echoes a common suggestion regarding m/m stories: 
* a fan apologizes for her use of the word “homo”: 
* a first-time letter writer weighs in on S/H: 
* a review of Ten-Thirteen. See that page for more.: 
File:Sandh19newsome.jpg|from issue #19, Cheryl Newsome
File:Sandh19insidetvas.jpg|from issue #19, T'Vas
File:Sandh19kurz.jpg|from issue #19, Ruth Kurz
File:Sandh19diagram.jpg|from issue #19, diagram by a fan to illustrate "the kiss/not kiss"
File:Sandh19bird.jpg|from issue #19, S. Bird
File:Snadh19tvas2.jpg|from issue #19, T'Vas
File:Sandh19newsome2.jpg|from issue #19, Cheryl Newsome
File:Sandh19joymancinelli.jpg|from issue #19, Joy Mancinelli
==S and H 20 (April 1981)==
* contains 48 pages
* a fan asks: "Whatever happened to Then We Can Be Heroes and/or Bird of Paradise?"
* one fan announces she is retiring from active fandom, though she will still write letters to the letterzine
* a fan goes on and on in great detail (angles, percentages, profiles, frames…) regarding “the kiss in the alley diagram,” in the previous issue
* the editor of Casa Cabrillo notes that the uncensored, unedited Locs for the zine will be sent to the contributors as soon as she can locate a xerox machine
* several short poems by fans
* art is by Connie Faddis, C. Frashure, Ruth Kurz, Joy Mancinelli, Cheryl Newsome (front cover) and L. Walter
* proposed zines: Enigma, “Late Bloomer” (“taking S&H submissions. Death or permanent injuries not acceptable. Send SASE to Southpaw Press/Beth Patton”), Pushin’ the Odds, “Soapy Scenes”, The Zine from U.N.C.L.E.
* forthcoming zines: Code 7 (“available late May, one copy per customer, no reprints, $10 in person”), L.A. Vespers #2, Syndizine #2, Ten-Thirteen #2, Zebra Three #6
* available zines, Casa Cabrillo, Hopscotch, Judge and Jury, Menagerie #17, Mini Zine #2, My Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys, One Shot, Records and Information #1 and #2, Sins of the Father, Ten-Thirteen #1, The Pits #2, Vermont Avenue, and Zebra Three #2 and #5
* a British fan who doesn’t like sex in fiction is glad for clarification about what “Crisco” is, but appears to not have thought the definition through: 
* a reader comments the lack of women in S&H fiction: 
* a fan likes the show’s portrayal of women: 
* a fan is unhappy with the letters to the letterzine and asks for levity: 
* the editor of Code 7 explains the reasons for a low profile: 
* a new fan weighs in on S/H: 
* a fan, and the letterzine’s European distributor checks in: 
* a fan sends a shout-out to another “Christian fan” and says: 
* a fan contemplates the future for S&H: 
* about the zine “Soapy Scenes”: [Note: this zine never made it off the ground.]: 
* regarding negligee: 
* a fan comments on The Huggy Awards: 
* the editor talks of the monetary funds it takes to keep the letterzine going: 
* a fan asks
* the organizer of Dobey Con says there will not be a third one: 
* the author of Forever Autumn writes: 
* a reader comments on S/H: 
File:Sandh20frashure.jpg|from issue #20, Cheryl Frashure
File:Sandh20kurz.jpg|from issue #20, Ruth Kurz
File:Sandh20newsome.jpg|from issue #20, Cheryl Newsome
File:Sandh20faddis.jpg|from issue #20, Connie Faddis
File:Sandh20mancinelli.jpg|from issue #20, Joy Mancinelli
==References==
Category:Starsky & Hutch Zines
Category:1980 Zines
Category:1981 Zines