Adult Content User Group/12/19/2011

==Attendees List==
*Ardy Lay (ardy.lay)
*Counter Landfall (counter.landfall)
*Innula Zenovka (innula.zenovka)
*Kyrillos Chaffe (kyrillos.chaffe)
*Nal (nal)
*Viale Linden (viale.linden)
*Xiola Linden (xiola.linden)
*Zada Bury (zada.bury)
==Transcript for Monday December 19, 2011==
[10:00]	Viale Linden 	how is everyone?
[10:00]	Innula Zenovka 	fine, thanks... almost ready for Christmas.. how about you?
[10:00]	Viale Linden 	oh jeez
[10:01]	Viale Linden 	working up to Thursday
[10:01]	Zada Bury 	Mmmm .... let's say "between the chairs"
[10:01]	Viale Linden 	will be a last minute thing for me
[10:01]	Zada Bury 	Heya Xiola
[10:01]	Innula Zenovka 	hi, Xiola
[10:01]	Innula Zenovka 	will you be able to make the Adult Hub Christmas Party on Thursday, viale?
[10:02]	Xiola Linden 	hello Zada!
[10:02]	Viale Linden 	I will definitely try
[10:02]	Zada Bury 	*~~silencepurr~~*
[10:02]	Viale Linden 	to make it
[10:02]	Innula Zenovka 	11-2 SLT .. everyone welcome
[10:02]	Viale Linden 	iT was busy again this weekend
[10:02]	Zada Bury 	*whispers to Innula* Was it, where the secret Snowballfight is planned?
[10:03]	Innula Zenovka 	Innula Zenovka whispers to Zada .. the one with the special tracking snowballs, you mean?
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[10:03]	Zada Bury 	*whispers back and nods* Yes, the apocaliptig big ones with the L-name detectors ...
[10:03]	Innula Zenovka 	Hi, Counter
[10:03]	Counter Landfall	Hi everyone
[10:04]	Viale Linden 	Hey Counter
[10:04]	Zada Bury 	*nods to the side*
[10:04]	Xiola Linden 	hi Counter
[10:04]	Counter Landfall	latest beta viewer is a bit unstable, haha
[10:04]	Xiola Linden 	intimate group today, it seems
[10:04]	Viale Linden 	works for me....
[10:05]	Viale Linden 	even on my horrible home pc
[10:05]	Counter Landfall	if you make it through the first minute it is stable
[10:05]	Viale Linden 	ok
[10:05]	Zada Bury 	Let's say ... if the chair of the ZA is still lucky and see the name change of Zindra Vortex as triumph ... it will become a more intimate meeting.
[10:05]	Viale Linden 	we received a couple of agenda items'
[10:06]	Viale Linden 	first one - Count on adult hub visitors - shows zero
[10:06]	Viale Linden 	this is being looked into. it is an issue that is affecting not just the adult regions.
[10:06]	Zada Bury 	Wasn't this a fault in the Traffic-reporting system all over?
[10:07]	Viale Linden 	The map shows attenedance and the DG shows zero
[10:07]	Innula Zenovka 	yeah, it's widespread.. and acts as a disincentive to visit the places, of course
[10:07]	Viale Linden 	we have someone looking into the dg issue
[10:07]	Zada Bury 	WElcome Ardy.
[10:07]	Ardy Lay 	Hi
[10:07]	Innula Zenovka 	hi, Ardy
[10:07]	Viale Linden 	Second - Destination guide kiosk idea.
[10:08]	Viale Linden 	I really like this idea
[10:08]	Viale Linden 	Unfortunately, Qie is not here as he proposed the idea
[10:08]	Zada Bury 	((take seat, Ardy))
[10:08]	Counter Landfall	You just introduced the DG floater in the viewer
[10:08]	Counter Landfall	how is this different?
[10:08]	Viale Linden 	We will work with DPW on a solution
[10:09]	Viale Linden 	Not everyone has the SL viewer
[10:09]	Counter Landfall	true but the new ones does
[10:09]	Viale Linden 	true that
[10:09]	Viale Linden 	It doesnt hurt
[10:09]	Viale Linden 	I am sure some existing Resis will like too
[10:10]	Innula Zenovka 	And Qie's idea was that you might be able to show selections -- e.g. adult destinations only, or sailing destinations only, or Bay City only
[10:10]	Zada Bury 	People like to interact with inworld-stuff, not only (switch-off-able) Viever-windos.
[10:10]	Viale Linden 	What are some of your ideas on this? What would be an inclusive, fair way to do this?
[10:11]	Counter Landfall	Honestly I have not given it much thought
[10:11]	Zada Bury 	<_< ...>_> .... don't ask mee ... tech stuff, pretty sensible technic ... better press fast ALL buttons same time.
[10:12]	Xiola Linden 	Innula, wasn't it you and Qie ho originally were throwing around some ideas on this?
[10:12]	Viale Linden 	something to think about, but I like the DG concept
[10:12]	Innula Zenovka 	how are you thinking of displaying the images? Web on a Prim is the most obvious, but not everyone can see it, and lots of people who can see it, don't have it turned one
[10:12]	Innula Zenovka 	on
[10:12]	Innula Zenovka 	yes, Xiola...
[10:12]	Xiola Linden 	awesome
[10:12]	Innula Zenovka 	Qie and I thought there's several ways to do it -- all of which will need some LL technical assistance
[10:13]	Counter Landfall	what if you click an in-world item and it opens the DG floater
[10:13]	Viale Linden 	Maybe Innula and Qie could send us some thoughts on this for the spec
[10:13]	Counter Landfall	and use that mechnaism for display
[10:13]	Innula Zenovka 	I'd be very happy to, and I'll volunteer Qie for it .. that's what he gets for not turning up
[10:13]	Xiola Linden 	lol
[10:14]	Viale Linden 	I believe that would require a certain viewer/web kit
[10:14]	Counter Landfall	yes it does Viale
[10:14]	Innula Zenovka 	Counter.. i like the idea of actually seeing the texture on a prim -- which would mean we'd need the uuids -- and touching it for more info
[10:14]	Counter Landfall	but it moves the new users forward
[10:14]	Viale Linden 	the key is to make it more accessible
[10:14]	Innula Zenovka 	that's the one thing everyone will be able to see
[10:15]	Viale Linden 	3) Thread naming standard
[10:15]	Innula Zenovka 	i prefer the idea of displaying textures rather than using shared media because even people who can see it -- like me -- tend not to have it turned on
[10:15]	Counter Landfall	agreed Innula
[10:15]	Viale Linden 	Xiola and I thought about this and it feels too rigid and wiill not be adopted by all
[10:15]	Xiola Linden 	an fair too. Technical stuff aside (which I know there are lots of technical considerations), thinking about hot ti make it fair, inclusive, and accessible too
[10:16]	Viale Linden 	unenforceable
[10:16]	Xiola Linden 	how to make it, that is. Monday mornings.
[10:16]	Counter Landfall	naming standards cannot be enforced in any shape or form
[10:16]	Viale Linden 	sorry - I moved to the 3rd agenda item
[10:16]	Counter Landfall	publish a suggested guideline, and forget about the rest
[10:16]	Viale Linden 	3) naming standards
[10:16]	Xiola Linden 	gotcha
[10:17]	Xiola Linden 	difficult to enforce and not especially intuitive for newbies
[10:17]	Viale Linden 	4) Getting more participants on forums
[10:17]	Viale Linden 	Residents have a very valid point. We don’t want to pull people out of In-World participation. The forums should be a supplement more so than a complement to in SL in-world. The two do not have to be exclusive of one another.
[10:17]	Counter Landfall	focus on getting more people to stay in-world
[10:17]	Viale Linden 	I am not seeking traffic to forums
[10:18]	Counter Landfall	anything that takes theri attention out of in-world gives them less incentive to log in
[10:18]	Viale Linden 	just another transparent device for all to give feedback
[10:18]	Xiola Linden 	we just want then to be a supplementary benefit
[10:18]	Viale Linden 	including people that missied this meeting
[10:18]	Viale Linden 	ie....
[10:18]	Viale Linden 	lol
[10:19]	Innula Zenovka 	i think the combination of meeting and forum works really well
[10:19]	Viale Linden 	5) More Adult categories
[10:19]	Counter Landfall	categories where?
[10:19]	Viale Linden 	we thought about this and received feedback on forums
[10:19]	Xiola Linden 	back to 4) - yes Innula. I think so too. Longer/deeper dive discussions in the forums
[10:20]	Xiola Linden 	how the adult forums are categorized, Counter
[10:20]	Zada Bury 	The Forums ... nice things ... but most, if I find time to post, I have to read fist 8 pages of blah-blah, where People argue in verry long text (remember not all can fly over english texts that well) ... and then ... the time is gone ... and next it become 10 pages ... bleah.
[10:20]	Counter Landfall	right
[10:20]	Viale Linden 	Hmmm?
[10:20]	Counter Landfall	I suggest the following mechnaism
[10:20]	Counter Landfall	if anyone sees a need for a new category, suggest tit in the forum
[10:21]	Viale Linden 	How do yall feel about these: nworld employment, wanted and Merchant roundtable.
[10:21]	Counter Landfall	if it getes reasonable suppor there, submit a proposal to moderator and creat the new category
[10:22]	Viale Linden 	I think we will get feedback on the forums
[10:22]	Viale Linden 	Maybe xiola could run a poll
[10:22]	Viale Linden 	on these 3
[10:22]	Innula Zenovka 	what would Wanted be?
[10:22]	Viale Linden 	I am looking for...
[10:22]	Xiola Linden 	wanted would be similar to what the exisiting wanted section in the commerce forums is, but more specific to Adult
[10:23]	Viale Linden 	actually only one is being used - general discussion
[10:23]	Viale Linden 	the others like events and feedback are rarely used
[10:24]	Innula Zenovka 	thanks, xiola
[10:25]	Xiola Linden 	as it is currently, i think most adult events are posted in the general upcoming events area
[10:25]	Viale Linden 	yup
[10:25]	Xiola Linden 	same with in world employment
[10:26]	Xiola Linden 	do you guys think it would help to have those types of listings under the adult board
[10:26]	Counter Landfall	sounds like natural places for those
[10:26]	Viale Linden 	Ok - we will wait on adding those as there does not seem like much enthusiasm
[10:26]	Xiola Linden 	it can be, but there is also some feedback from people who don't want to read about jobs for exotic dancers, escorts, etc
[10:27]	Counter Landfall	do you want to run listings for escorts in the forums?
[10:27]	Innula Zenovka 	i dunno.. it's bad enough having stuff flagged on the marketplace because it should be adult rather than mature.. i would hate see that spread to the forums
[10:27]	Xiola Linden 	but yes, it maybe makes sense to leave the categories as is for now and have a larger conversation about anything else
[10:27]	Viale Linden 	Those were the agenda items submitted to us
[10:27]	Zada Bury 	So we are "open discussion"?
[10:28]	Viale Linden 	Do you have other items or should we end early on this Holiday week?
[10:28]	Counter Landfall	maybe you could make a tiny island as the landing point in Zindra Ocean?
[10:28]	Zada Bury 	I have a question: The Premium-Sandboxes "adult rated" ... can they have a Premium-Gift-Dispender?
[10:29]	Counter Landfall	there is some shallow water there where people stand looking lost
[10:29]	Zada Bury 	Soemtimes clothing is not suit for PG ...
[10:29]	Viale Linden 	Counter - the traffic for zindra searches is too low to worry aout that
[10:29]	Viale Linden 	hand fulls
[10:29]	Kyrillos Chaffe 	hello friends
[10:29]	Zada Bury 	WElcome, Kyrillos
[10:29]	Xiola Linden 	hi kyrillos
[10:29]	Kyrillos Chaffe 	hi zada
[10:30]	Kyrillos Chaffe 	ans xiola
[10:30]	Nal 	Several people have been asking about an LSL function to detect Age Verifed. Their need is in Mature landing areas that lead to Adoult areas. They want to detect and provide information about why they can't get to Adult. Any chance of getting such a function?
[10:30]	Kyrillos Chaffe 	what are you doing everybody ?
[10:30]	Viale Linden 	Zada - we will consider
[10:31]	Zada Bury 	ACUG-meeting, Kyrillos ... ^.^
[10:31]	Viale Linden 	I have not heard that Nal
[10:31]	Viale Linden 	interesting
[10:31]	Kyrillos Chaffe 	talking about a new worl ?
[10:31]	Kyrillos Chaffe 	world sorry
[10:32]	Viale Linden 	I would like to consider putting age verification in the Registration
[10:32]	Innula Zenovka 	Doesn't the viewer tell you that need to be age verified if you can't go somewhere?
[10:32]	Zada Bury 	I jut have realized, as I wanted to grab the boat ... all are PG-rated ... and PG is sometimes hard to match ... so "why not also on the Adiultsandbo?".
[10:32]	Viale Linden 	Yes
[10:32]	Zada Bury 	More to enhance the actual 2nd wold, Kyrillos
[10:33]	Kyrillos Chaffe 	ok
[10:33]	Nal 	Adding more clicks to registration is an up hill effort. But, region owners do need to be able to help non-age verifed rahter than spam the already verified. So, a LLIsVerified() might be easier to get.
[10:33]	Innula Zenovka 	Kyrillos. this is the SL Adult Content User Group.. where people with an interest in Adult Content talk things over with LL
[10:33]	Viale Linden 	Ok we reviewed our 5 agenda items. If you have more questions or feedback - please do not hesitate to email us at community@lindenlab.com or the adult forum
[10:33]	Viale Linden 	Thanks for coming today.
[10:34]	Counter Landfall	ok, thanks
[10:34]	Kyrillos Chaffe 	they want to know how many years i have ?
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