I See A Lot Of Posts Going Around (Suppressing Women's Sexuality)

I See A Lot Of Posts Going Around (Suppressing Women's Sexuality) is a Tumblr post by buckyballbearing.
 
As of August 31, 2016, it had over 10,000 notes. The original post ("OP") is now deleted.
The post was one of many in 2015 and 2016 focusing on the suitability of dark themes in fan fiction and whether, and under what circumstances, such fan fiction should continue to be published and consumed in the fandom world. 
Similar posts made around the same time include "Your Vagina is a Bigot; My Vagina is a Saint" (2016), "Fandom is not your safe space" (2015), and "I think the general mindset and culture of Tumblr is effecting what people choose to write about in fic" (2015). 
Due to the difficulty of tracking and following tumblr posts and discussions, only a representative sampling of the vigorous debate stirred by the essay can be offered below. The majority of the selections are offered without commentary in order to better recreate the flow of the conversation as it happened. The responses are divided into rough, sometimes simplistic, topic headings and many selections may cover multiple points. 
==Context==
The context surrounding the original post was never explicitly discussed, but buckyballbearing and several of the early participants were members of the Marvel Universe fandom. They may have been influenced by the criticisms of an Agents of Shield fan writer who found herself the focus of fans who felt that fiction addressing sexual abuse was not an appropriate topic for fan fiction. The criticism stretched over a year period starting in 2014 and continuing through 2015.
As meeedeee explained in August 2016:
==The Original Post==
==Reactions to the Post==
===Is This About Controlling Women's Sexuality?===
One of the early responses to itsbuckybitch's post came from lokislacefront who argued that raising the question of suppressing women's sexuality was an attempt to avoid accountability by those writing harmful fiction:
itsbuckybitch responded by pointing out that women's sexuality is under constant attack, and that fandom activism that adopts similar tactics is indistinguishable from suppression:
lokislacefront, in turn argued, that fanfiction authors are hold a privileged position over their readers and bad fan writers contribute to oppression and are therefore never above critique:
cyberdyke-industries, after reading the exchange above, felt obligated to point out that the original post was discussing writers who explored "dark themes" and not problematic tropes which should be critiqued. She then stated that shaming writers was an attempt to intimidate them:
glorious-spoon agreed with cyberdyke-industries and argued that criticizing the writer instead of criticizing the writer could have the effect of erasing people from the fandom community:
bi-bookrobin disagreed with glorious-spoon and felt that critique of fiction that romanticize dark themes should not be controversial:
glorious-spoon then attempted to bring some badly needed context by referring to incidents in the Marvel Universe fandom community where women were harassed for writing about sexual violence, while women who wrote about torture were left alone:
===Recasting Certain Types of Fan Fiction As Sinning, and Fan Writers as Sinners===
===The Conversation Widens To Encompass More Than Sexuality: Racism and Trans/Homophobia===
===Sudden Shift In The Conversation Towards Pedophilia===
One of the difficulties in following conversations on tumblr, is that posters are often responding to comments further up thread or possibly to comments not even in the thread. For example, at one point olderthannetfic wrote:
Inexplicably, this seemingly generic comment led the tributary of the conversation towards pedophilia:
One commentator pointed out that in her years of reading darkfic online, she had only come across two instances of fan fiction that felt like it was written by and for pedophile: 
===But Is It Pedophilia To Write Or Read Underage FanFiction?===
===The Existence of Slash Fiction Is Also Seen As Harmful===
===Is The Source Of The Criticism Unexamined Baggage?===
===Safe Places For Teens To Explore Sexuality?===
===Is This Just Performative Outrage?===
===A Troubling Trend: Further Victimizing Victims===
===Conflicting Victims Needs===
===The Difference Between Failure of Writing vs Failure of Character===
===Is Performative Morality Creating An Even Unhealthier Community?===
===Perhaps The Source Of The Criticism Is Because Fandom Is The Only Place We Feel We Can Control?===
===What About Depictions of War and Violence In FanFic?===
===On The Redemptive Power of Fan Fiction===
===Judging People By What They Write Is A Dangerous Precedent ===
===We Need More - Not Less - Critiquing. But Of The Right Things===
===Tagging And Filtering As Possible Solutions===
 
===Another Solution: Acknowledge Different Experiences and Different Reasons?===
===Women Expressing Their Sexuality Is Why AO3 Owns The Servers===
===Present Yourself As Teachers, Not Gatekeepers===
===Depiction =\= Endorsement===
===Framing the Discussion In The Context Of Fandom History===
===Framing the Discussion In The Context Of Women's History===
===How To Approach This From An Empathetic or Pragmatic Perspective===
===Can We Please Bring Back "Squick", "YMMV", and "MKIOKYKIOK?===
===Fan Fiction Is Not Inherently Progressive===
===No Misogyny Here===
===General Comments===
====In Support====
====Against====
====In The Middle====
==References==
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