Community Translation User Group/14-Apr-2011

== Summary ==
* The region is public for the meeting.
* Noelle will send a note to the whole CT group explaining that if residents do not "manifest" themselves within 2 weeks by sending Noelle a notecard saying they are interested in staying and for which language, they will not longer be in the group.
** Suggestions about Zai Linch
** Suggestions about the problem with the next week (Eastern, holydays in Europe).
* Thanks to the German and Spanish team who successfully published a few articles.
* About Portuguese team/translators.
* More (see previous meetings) about the HTML problems with Lithium. Working on it. See this JIRA.
* For translations, see the step by step guide here.
* Lithium is not a good system for KB, but it is what we (Lindens) have been told to use.
* How act when the article show a link to content that is (and will be) only available in english. Add a "warning" or a "previous note".
* We need urgently links between translated articles.
* We open JIRAs for updated US articles. Then the localidez articles can be updated.
* We (Lindens) will soon resume localization into Japanese, and it would be great to get our Japanese volunteers involved again.
* Can we have a google doc or something alike to localize the available Labels?
* Some "funny" official translations.
== Transcription ==
* [11:56] Irene Muni: Hi Torben.
* [11:59] Torben (torben.trautman): Hi Irene :)
* [11:59] Irene Muni: :)
* [11:59] Torben (torben.trautman): Hi Identity
* [11:59] 素性 (identity.euler): hi
* [11:59] Irene Muni: Hi identity :)
* [11:59] Irene Muni: Hi Youri :)
* [11:59] Torben (torben.trautman): Hi Youri
* [11:59] Youri Ashton: hi
* [12:00] Irene Muni: Hi Noelle :)
* [12:00] Torben (torben.trautman): hi Noelle
* [12:00] Youri Ashton: hey noelle
* [12:00] Irene Muni: Noelle with a knife LOL
* [12:00] Noelle Linden: hello!!
* [12:01] 素性 (identity.euler): hi ㋡
* [12:01] Irene Muni: Wow, the shirt of 2009 party :)
* [12:01] Noelle Linden: yep, I decided to wear it again
* [12:02] Irene Muni: (I don't know the date of the knife LOL)
* [12:02] Noelle Linden: I made the land accessible to all
* [12:02] Irene Muni: great idea
* [12:02] Torben (torben.trautman): sweet :)
* [12:02] Youri Ashton: to all? why that?
* [12:02] Torben (torben.trautman): user group meetings are public
* [12:02] 素性 (identity.euler): The group also could be visible for all ^^
* [12:02] Torben (torben.trautman): so it should be public
* [12:02] Irene Muni: youri, thera are residents in translation project out of the offcial group
* [12:02] Noelle Linden: in case some bew residents want to come and are not in the group yet
* [12:03] Irene Muni: Youri, see the item in the agenda by Opensource :)
* [12:03] Torben (torben.trautman): thank you for the agenda Irene :)
* [12:03] Noelle Linden: nice!
* [12:03] Irene Muni: Well, 4 residents + 1 Linden LOL
* [12:04] Youri Ashton: tombraider noelle :p
* [12:04] Irene Muni: You're welcome :)
* [12:04] Youri Ashton: nice looks noelle :p
* [12:04] Noelle Linden: yes, I needed a chance
* [12:04] Irene Muni: LOOL tombraider :)
* [12:04] Noelle Linden: all right
* [12:04] Youri Ashton: ready for combat i see ^_^
* [12:04] Irene Muni: Ji Rand :)
* [12:04] Noelle Linden: I do not see Rand or Eli
* [12:04] Torben (torben.trautman): Hi Rand :)
* [12:04] Youri Ashton: rand just got in
* [12:04] Torben (torben.trautman): Rand just sneaked in
* [12:04] Youri Ashton: heya rand
* [12:04] Noelle Linden: here he is!
* [12:05] Noelle Linden: hi Rand
* [12:05] Rand (rand.linden): howdy!
* [12:05] Irene Muni: 4 Residents + 2 Linden XD
* [12:05] Noelle Linden: Ho Ourasi
* [12:05] Noelle Linden: Hi!
* [12:05] Youri Ashton: 4 + 2
* [12:05] Youri Ashton: 5*
* [12:05] Irene Muni: hi Ourasi :)
* [12:05] Noelle Linden: As I said in my note, the meeting will only be 1/2 hour today as I have to leave early
* [12:05] Ourasi Ferraris: ★ HELLO ★ BONJOUR ★ HOLA ★ BUONGIORNO ★ GUTEN TAG ★
* [12:06] Irene Muni: ok Noelle
* [12:06] Rand (rand.linden): lol
* [12:06] Ourasi Ferraris: i'm the best of crashhh
* [12:06] Youri Ashton: ourasi, turn your settings down to minimum
* [12:06] Youri Ashton: should help, and take off that dress, it also adds lagg ;)
* [12:07] Noelle Linden: I experience a lot of lag today too
* [12:07] Ourasi Ferraris: no i'm ok just i've crash just before the meting looll
* [12:07] Youri Ashton: i did earlier today
* [12:07] Irene Muni: Lag is the heart of SL XD
* [12:07] Torben (torben.trautman): it´s the new breast physics *lol*
* [12:07] Noelle Linden: so I thought!!
* [12:07] Noelle Linden: :-)
* [12:07] Irene Muni: We are lost without lag XD
* [12:08] Noelle Linden: sooo
* [12:08] Ourasi Ferraris: you don't like my dress Youri?
* [12:08] Youri Ashton: lol, that isnt the problem hon :)
* [12:08] Ourasi Ferraris: :))
* [12:08] Irene Muni: :)
* [12:08] Youri Ashton: i just tried to tell you that flexi parts add to your lag problems
* [12:08] Noelle Linden: As mentioned in the agenda, in the next 2 weeks, I will go over the list of residents in our CT group
* [12:08] Noelle Linden: and will "clean it up"
* [12:08] Irene Muni: Be careful with the next week: holidays :)
* [12:09] Ourasi Ferraris: i can take off it but... here i'm not sure =^.^=
* [12:09] Youri Ashton: flexi parts is basically calculations that keep going
* [12:09] Noelle Linden: in Spain?
* [12:09] Noelle Linden: Easter? holidays?
* [12:09] Irene Muni: yes noelle :)
* [12:09] Youri Ashton: dont worry, we'll keep rand away from you ;) jk rand :p
* [12:09] Irene Muni: Holy Week :)
* [12:09] Torben (torben.trautman): same in germany
* [12:09] Noelle Linden: so people will not be active
* [12:09] Ourasi Ferraris: i know Youri ;)
* [12:09] Ourasi Ferraris: yep Noelle :(
* [12:10] Irene Muni: Eastern in Europe :)
* [12:10] Rand (rand.linden): haha
* [12:10] Irene Muni: Hi Paulo
* [12:10] Youri Ashton: hello paulo
* [12:10] Noelle Linden: ok, well, what I can do is wait for 2 weeks
* [12:10] Paulo Kahuna (devon.chaffe): olá, hello everyone
* [12:10] Noelle Linden: I will send a note today to the whole group
* [12:10] Ourasi Ferraris: it's the holiday in France
* [12:10] Ourasi Ferraris: ola paulo
* [12:11] Youri Ashton: same for the Netherlands
* [12:11] Torben (torben.trautman): can we keep Zai in the group for nostalgic reasons and in the desperate hope that one day she will come back?
* [12:11] Irene Muni: YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESWSSSSSS
* [12:11] Irene Muni: please :(
* [12:11] Noelle Linden: explaining that if residents do not "manifest" themselves within 2 weeks by sending me a notecard saying they are interested in staying and for which language, they will not longer be in the group
* [12:11] Noelle Linden: Zai?
* [12:11] Youri Ashton: zai still has her items in this sim
* [12:11] Torben (torben.trautman): Zai Lynch
* [12:11] Noelle Linden: Of course, Zai has to stay :-)
* [12:11] Irene Muni: Zai Linch
* [12:11] Youri Ashton: zai-pedis :p
* [12:11] Ourasi Ferraris: until may 8 here
* [12:11] Torben (torben.trautman): yah :)
* [12:11] Youri Ashton: zai-pedia*
* [12:11] Paulo Kahuna (devon.chaffe): well i'm returning now
* [12:11] Paulo Kahuna (devon.chaffe): after a long time
* [12:12] Paulo Kahuna (devon.chaffe): since v2 lauching
* [12:12] Youri Ashton: hi catwise
* [12:12] Irene Muni: Hi Catwise :)
* [12:12] Catwise Yoshikawa: hi
* [12:12] Noelle Linden: Great Paulo, I am happy to see you!
* [12:12] Noelle Linden: Hi Catwise
* [12:12] Irene Muni: Bunny Catwise LOL
* [12:12] Catwise Yoshikawa: didn't have time to change clothes XD
* [12:12] Noelle Linden: :-)
* [12:13] Ourasi Ferraris: *-->MDR<--*
* [12:13] Noelle Linden: I missed Oura's laugh
* [12:13] Noelle Linden: :-)
* [12:13] Ourasi Ferraris: :))
* [12:13] Noelle Linden: So let's move to topic #2
* [12:13] Noelle Linden: KB articles in Lithium
* [12:13] Noelle Linden: a big thanks to the German and Spanish team
* [12:14] Noelle Linden: who successfully published a few articles :-)
* [12:14] Irene Muni: You're welcome :)
* [12:14] Irene Muni: successfully... wel, more orless LOL
* [12:14] Paulo Kahuna (devon.chaffe): I guess there's no portuguese team, right?
* [12:14] Torben (torben.trautman): we did as *good* as Lithium let us :)
* [12:14] Noelle Linden: well you did all the work and all I did was to click on Publish
* [12:14] Irene Muni: Rand is fightinh with Lithium for "Contents"
* [12:15] Irene Muni: fughting*
* [12:15] Catwise Yoshikawa: one day headers didn't work and other it does...little crazy :p
* [12:15] Noelle Linden: Hi Paulo, no one is doing portuguese at the time
* [12:15] Rand (rand.linden): Torben found a related issue: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-3814
* [12:15] Noelle Linden: in the community, so if you would like to help, please do !!
* [12:15] Ourasi Ferraris: ⊙BrB ⊙
* [12:15] Irene Muni: I cannot see that JIRA, Permission Violation :(
* [12:15] Rand (rand.linden): This might be the cause of the some of the problems. We are asking Lithium about it...
* [12:16] Rand (rand.linden): weird...Torben opened it...should be visible to all?
* [12:16] Youri Ashton: torben might be logged in
* [12:16] Irene Muni: Is that a restricted JIRA? Torben, do you love me? LOL
* [12:16] Rand (rand.linden): oh yeah, you have to be logged in
* [12:16] Youri Ashton: we all love you irene ^_^
* [12:16] Irene Muni: I'm logged
* [12:16] Rand (rand.linden): to sl.com
* [12:16] Torben (torben.trautman): I set it to Linden & Reporter
* [12:16] Torben (torben.trautman): let me change that
* [12:16] Rand (rand.linden): ah
* [12:16] Catwise Yoshikawa: i'm loged and can't see it :p
* [12:17] Irene Muni: Torben, no kudos for you!!! :(
* [12:17] Irene Muni: LOL
* [12:17] Rand (rand.linden): Torben's going to fix
* [12:17] Torben (torben.trautman): there you go :)
* [12:17] Youri Ashton: i can not login atm, im on my laptop atm, less SL crashes
* [12:17] Torben (torben.trautman): should work now
* [12:17] Youri Ashton: /me curses ATI
* [12:17] Catwise Yoshikawa: yes, it works now
* [12:17] Irene Muni: It works now :)
* [12:17] Rand (rand.linden): Basically, Lithium appears to strip inline CSS styling from HTML
* [12:18] Rand (rand.linden): e.g.
* [12:18] Rand (rand.linden): ... just gets changed to ... 
* [12:18] Noelle Linden: not good
* [12:18] Irene Muni: Buf... You are the Lindens, but I'm not sure Lithiium is a good system for the KB.
* [12:19] Irene Muni: But that is another meeting :)
* [12:19] Rand (rand.linden): I agree, Irene, but it is what we have been told to use...
* [12:19] Rand (rand.linden): yes
* [12:19] Youri Ashton: it sure adds a lot of confusion to what to translate and what now for some of us
* [12:19] Paulo Kahuna (devon.chaffe): I'm an expert in KB, that's my RL job, and definitelly Lithium isn't the best tool
* [12:19] Irene Muni: OK, go ahead with Lithium, I have been knowledged 3 KBs in my SL life :)
* [12:19] Youri Ashton: not everyone in the translator team knows teh basics of html and css coding
* [12:19] Torben (torben.trautman): Rand: I was thinking maybe this is a security precaution for external accounts as it was with the header settings
* [12:20] Rand (rand.linden): Yes, the doc team told everyone that, but the decision was already made. So, we soldier on!
* [12:20] Irene Muni: LOL
* [12:20] Noelle Linden: Youri, you do not need to know html or css coding to translate in Lithium
* [12:20] Rand (rand.linden): Torben: Possible
* [12:20] Rand (rand.linden): I haven't heard anything back from Lithium yet
* [12:20] Irene Muni: Youri, in http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Platform_KB_Translation_Project there is a step by step guide
* [12:21] Irene Muni: I can understand that guide, so everybodu can XD
* [12:21] Irene Muni: everybody*
* [12:21] Ourasi Ferraris: back (sorry it was my neightbour^^)
* [12:21] Noelle Linden: also, if you try to localize an article, and do not quite understand how still, Irene offered to help
* [12:21] Torben (torben.trautman): :)
* [12:21] Noelle Linden: walk through the process
* [12:21] Irene Muni: yes, Irene offered to help: L$100/hour XD
* [12:22] Youri Ashton: just making sure that it is usable by everyone of us, so we dont end up doing things twice or more
* [12:22] Noelle Linden: ahhhhh :-)
* [12:22] Noelle Linden: good deal
* [12:22] Irene Muni: :)
* [12:22] Irene Muni: Money is money XD
* [12:22] Noelle Linden: time is money
* [12:22] Torben (torben.trautman): I have a question: When linking to content that is (and will be) only available in english, is it appropriate to add a "warning" to a localized article? For example, How to report a bug or request a feature deals with JIRA. The JIRA UI is partially localized so I use localized pictures. When it comes to a bug report or a feature request, I would like to add a hint to the translation that both must be in english.
* [12:22] Catwise Yoshikawa: or a free sim :p 
* [12:22] Irene Muni: XD
* [12:22] Torben (torben.trautman): ?
* [12:23] Torben (torben.trautman): :)
* [12:23] Rand (rand.linden): Good question, Torben
* [12:23] Noelle Linden: I think so Torben
* [12:23] Noelle Linden: typically we use (EN) next to the link
* [12:23] Rand (rand.linden): Perhaps just put (English) in the link text?
* [12:23] Noelle Linden: that indicates the content of the page is in English
* [12:23] Rand (rand.linden): Or...what Noelle said :-)
* [12:23] Torben (torben.trautman): this is a special case
* [12:23] Torben (torben.trautman): for links we use (en)
* [12:24] Torben (torben.trautman): but we want to tell residents that they can NOT write bug reports in german
* [12:24] Torben (torben.trautman): or spanish
* [12:24] Noelle Linden: oh I see
* [12:24] Noelle Linden: I think it is safe to mention it
* [12:24] Rand (rand.linden): oh...
* [12:25] Irene Muni: In The Spanish article we have added a "pevious note" about that: you can see the JIRA in Spanish, but you must write in English.
* [12:25] Noelle Linden: something like "bug reports have to be written in English only"
* [12:25] Irene Muni: "previous note"*
* [12:25] Rand (rand.linden): Yes, that sounds OK to me
* [12:25] Torben (torben.trautman): k
* [12:25] Noelle Linden: thank you for asking Torben
* [12:26] Noelle Linden: any other outstanding issue in Lithium you would like to mention?
* [12:26] Irene Muni: )BTW I can publisg the log of the meeting)
* [12:26] Irene Muni: publish*
* [12:26] Noelle Linden: thank you Irene
* [12:26] Irene Muni: YW
* [12:26] Torben (torben.trautman): I have a hard time with the workflow
* [12:27] Torben (torben.trautman): for now it´s easy
* [12:27] Torben (torben.trautman): but I have no idea how we are going to keep track of changes
* [12:27] Noelle Linden: you mean how we will stay on top of updates?
* [12:27] Torben (torben.trautman): yes
* [12:27] Noelle Linden: when the US article changes?
* [12:27] Irene Muni: About that, we need urgently links between translated articles.
* [12:27] Torben (torben.trautman): yes, that for example
* [12:28] Catwise Yoshikawa: yes
* [12:28] Noelle Linden: I am not sure, I will let Rand answer
* [12:28] Irene Muni: Go Rand! bLOL
* [12:28] Irene Muni: Noelle gives the ball to Rand, and Rand.... XD
* [12:28] Rand (rand.linden): haha
* [12:29] Torben (torben.trautman): you have the right to remain silent :)
* [12:29] Noelle Linden: Rand, will your team keep a list of updated articles and share with us?
* [12:29] Noelle Linden: lol
* [12:29] Rand (rand.linden): We are using Jira for task tracking... easiest would be to use Jira
* [12:29] Irene Muni: jira?
* [12:29] Paulo Kahuna (devon.chaffe): i would suggest jira too, it is a tracking platform
* [12:29] Torben (torben.trautman): that leads to my next question :)
* [12:29] Rand (rand.linden): But right now, DOC jiras are not publicly visible
* [12:29] Rand (rand.linden): So, I am going to suggest we change that
* [12:30] Rand (rand.linden): We're also putting the articles that are ready for translation in the wiki page...
* [12:30] Torben (torben.trautman): can we maybe change the CT JIRA so we move all localization things there?
* [12:30] Torben (torben.trautman): like all the VWR bugs
* [12:31] Catwise Yoshikawa: we should have a link to translated articles
* [12:31] Catwise Yoshikawa: in the english version
* [12:31] Irene Muni: sorry for my ignorance, jiras for to know what articles are translated and the links betwwen articles, jiras for uodated articles?
* [12:31] Noelle Linden: I think keeping a list of updated articles on the wiki would be easier
* [12:31] Torben (torben.trautman): Rand: maybe you can add the Translator group or the Translator2 group to see the DOC project?
* [12:31] Catwise Yoshikawa: guess we are talking about 2 things :p
* [12:31] Rand (rand.linden): Good idea, Torben
* [12:31] Irene Muni: sorry, but jiras???? I think it's easier the wiki :)
* [12:31] Rand (rand.linden): Yes, two topics here.
* [12:31] Irene Muni: only one resoruce, please LOL
* [12:32] Rand (rand.linden): Irene: Jira for tracking changes to translated articles
* [12:32] Rand (rand.linden): You think the wiki is easier
* [12:32] Rand (rand.linden): ?
* [12:32] Noelle Linden: oh I see
* [12:32] Irene Muni: yes, but I think changs can be writed in the wiki :)
* [12:32] Torben (torben.trautman): Irene, we had that: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/CT_Project_Overview/1#A
* [12:32] Catwise Yoshikawa: there is a wiki with that info now, isn't it ?
* [12:32] Noelle Linden: jira is best to track changes
* [12:32] Torben (torben.trautman): but it didn´t really work out well
* [12:32] Paulo Kahuna (devon.chaffe): jira is the natural tool for any IT changes
* [12:32] Irene Muni: ok, jira, more emails :(
* [12:33] Torben (torben.trautman): the pure amount of articles is too overwhelming for a wiki overview
* [12:33] Noelle Linden: I am sorry but I need to leave
* [12:33] Torben (torben.trautman): oh oh, Noelle on the run
* [12:33] Torben (torben.trautman): /me waves bye bye
* [12:33] Noelle Linden: do you want to continue this conversation next week?
* [12:33] Youri Ashton: bye bye noelle :)
* [12:33] Rand (rand.linden): So, we have a Jira issue for each KB article, and the state of the Jira reflects the state of the article. We should be able to devise some simple Jira queries that will list articles ready for trans...
* [12:33] Rand (rand.linden): Bye Noelle!
* [12:33] Irene Muni: by Noelle, greetings!
* [12:33] Rand (rand.linden): Torben - going back to the issue you reported.... Lithium asks the following: "When they try to post that HTML, are they able to submit it and find parts of the HTML have been removed when they try to edit or does it return an invalid HTML error and then remove some tags before the post is ever submitted?"
* [12:33] Catwise Yoshikawa: bye
* [12:33] Ourasi Ferraris: bye Noelle
* [12:34] Paulo Kahuna (devon.chaffe): bye noelle
* [12:34] Ourasi Ferraris: ㋡
* [12:34] Ourasi Ferraris: bon app
* [12:34] Paulo Kahuna (devon.chaffe): au revoir
* [12:34] Noelle Linden: sorry for leaving early....
* [12:34] Irene Muni: a jira for each article????? well, I need a beer LOL
* [12:34] Rand (rand.linden): Yeah, I know
* [12:34] Youri Ashton: kinda cant keep my eyes open, so no worries
* [12:34] Noelle Linden: thank you all
* [12:34] Rand (rand.linden): It seems like overkill...
* [12:34] Noelle Linden: see you next week
* [12:34] Rand (rand.linden): To be clear , I mean one Jira for each ENGLISH aritlce
* [12:34] Torben (torben.trautman): Rand: I can copy/paste it from a Linden article into a new article
* [12:34] Irene Muni: next week???? Eastern in Europe :)
* [12:34] Youri Ashton: been working on some things for 3 days straight without sleep
* [12:35] Torben (torben.trautman): but when I save it I get the error message
* [12:35] Rand (rand.linden): ok
* [12:35] Torben (torben.trautman): and the code gets truncated
* [12:35] 素性 (identity.euler): Easter? ㋡
* [12:35] Irene Muni: Easter, Holly Week, HOLYDAYS :)
* [12:35] Youri Ashton: ill be off as well, laters all
* [12:35] Torben (torben.trautman): bye Youri
* [12:35] 素性 (identity.euler): see you ㋡
* [12:35] Catwise Yoshikawa: I won't have internet where I'm going to travel :p
* [12:35] Torben (torben.trautman): Irene, I think Jira makes sense for that
* [12:36] Irene Muni: ok Torben and Rand, you know the best about that :)
* [12:36] Torben (torben.trautman): when Lindens update an article they create a jira and then we maybe find out and can adjust the localized one
* [12:36] Irene Muni: I watch all the JIRAS for email notifications LOL
* [12:36] Torben (torben.trautman): o.O
* [12:36] Torben (torben.trautman): are you on the JIRA mailing list?
* [12:36] Irene Muni: no torben
* [12:36] Torben (torben.trautman): do you hate "lindenrobot" as much as I do?
* [12:36] Irene Muni: I cannot sign more mailing lists LOL
* [12:37] Torben (torben.trautman): ah hehe ok :)
* [12:37] 素性 (identity.euler): aaaww
* [12:37] Irene Muni: yes torben, lindenrobot
* [12:37] 素性 (identity.euler): I have been spammed by it about 30 times
* [12:37] 素性 (identity.euler): in two days
* [12:37] 素性 (identity.euler): :D
* [12:37] 素性 (identity.euler): some time ago
* [12:37] Irene Muni: lindenrobot is the most active Linden hahahaha
* [12:37] Rand (rand.linden): Hey, I wanted to give you guys a heads up that there I am going to import another small batch of articles from the wiki to Lithium...
* [12:37] Torben (torben.trautman): one morning I had like 200 emails from lindenrobot
* [12:37] Rand (rand.linden): https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/KB_Migration_-_Second_Batch
* [12:37] Irene Muni: wow rand :)
* [12:37] Rand (rand.linden): Some of these articles include existing translations (which may be outdated)
* [12:38] Torben (torben.trautman): :)
* [12:38] Torben (torben.trautman): nice :)
* [12:38] Irene Muni: oooohhhhh the famous https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Local_Payments_Help
* [12:38] Rand (rand.linden): I haven't actually filled in the list under "Non-English Articles" yet...but I am going to do so so
* [12:38] Rand (rand.linden): haha
* [12:38] Rand (rand.linden): Yeah, I wrote that ;-)
* [12:38] Irene Muni: LL closed the Paypal system for non UR residents WITHOUT WARNING LOL LOL LOL
* [12:38] Irene Muni: US*
* [12:38] Rand (rand.linden): heh yeah i know i know
* [12:39] Torben (torben.trautman): it´s more the content than the article Rand :)
* [12:39] Irene Muni: LOL; no problem with you Rand :)
* [12:39] Torben (torben.trautman): Rand: I hve a question about the labels
* [12:39] Rand (rand.linden): ah .. right ... yeah, i wasn't responsible for THAT! :-)
* [12:39] Torben (torben.trautman): let me find it
* [12:39] Rand (rand.linden): ok
* [12:39] Torben (torben.trautman): Can we have a google doc or something alike to localize the available Labels? Some labels are missing in german and some localized labels have a unfortunate connotation. For example "Getting started" is translated as "Anfänger" in german. "Anfänger"means noob which most probably isn´t intended.
* [12:39] Irene Muni: If your¡ were respoonsible for that, you were death Rand ZXD
* [12:40] Rand (rand.linden): :-)
* [12:40] Rand (rand.linden): hm
* [12:40] Rand (rand.linden): interesting
* [12:40] Irene Muni: Google Doc, jira, wiki, mailing list, private forum, meeting transcript..... why not another tool????
* [12:40] Rand (rand.linden): Noelle had the labels translated professionally, or so I thought
* [12:40] Torben (torben.trautman): sorry Irene
* [12:40] Irene Muni: XD
* [12:40] Catwise Yoshikawa: I'm getting lost :p
* [12:40] Torben (torben.trautman): Rand: let´s not start a discussion about your translation agency
* [12:40] Torben (torben.trautman): *lol*
* [12:41] Rand (rand.linden): ehem
* [12:41] Torben (torben.trautman): Linden Lab would loose
* [12:41] Irene Muni: There are very funny OFFICIAL spanish translations :)
* [12:41] Irene Muni: sex bed is translated as "round bed"b LOL
* [12:41] Rand (rand.linden): interesting.. i had no idea there were such problems
* [12:41] Irene Muni: "cama redonda"
* [12:41] Catwise Yoshikawa: and some translations in spanglish :p
* [12:41] Rand (rand.linden): wow
* [12:41] Irene Muni: yes Cat :)
* [12:41] Torben (torben.trautman): maybe we could post the labels on a wiki page and suggest alternatives
* [12:41] Rand (rand.linden): Have you guys told Noelle about that?
* [12:42] Irene Muni: more or less Rand :)
* [12:42] Rand (rand.linden): OK Torben, I will do that...I do have a Gdoc, but I will move to the wiki
* [12:42] Torben (torben.trautman): :)
* [12:42] Rand (rand.linden): OK, well Noelle is in charge of that.. I just hand her stuff to translate, and then take what she gives back :-)
* [12:42] Rand (rand.linden): And my Spanish and German is definitely not good enough to tell anything about the translations!!
* [12:43] Torben (torben.trautman): maybe we can put that on the agenda for next week
* [12:43] Irene Muni: ok, we will talk slowly about that "odd"translations :)
* [12:43] Rand (rand.linden): And did you say that some are missing?
* [12:43] Irene Muni: Torben thye agenda has maaaaaany threads :)
* [12:43] Rand (rand.linden): i.e. label translations
* [12:43] Torben (torben.trautman): some you added recently I think
* [12:43] Irene Muni: and the next week we are on holydays
* [12:43] Torben (torben.trautman): like the one for billing
* [12:43] Ourasi Ferraris: ㋡
* [12:43] Ourasi Ferraris: we are lucky Noelle is French no big problems for translate
* [12:43] Torben (torben.trautman): so not quite sure if there are still some missing
* [12:44] Irene Muni: in the offcial trasnlations "poseball" is translated into Spanish as... "poseball" lOL
* [12:44] Rand (rand.linden): OK yes lets discuss next week...
* [12:44] Rand (rand.linden): hah
* [12:44] Ourasi Ferraris: ⊙▽⊙⊙Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes ⊙▽⊙⊙ Yes !
* [12:44] Ourasi Ferraris: in french too poseball is poseball
* [12:44] Irene Muni: I'm not in SL next week, buy no poroblem :)
* [12:44] Catwise Yoshikawa: guess spanish will be on vacacions :p
* [12:44] Rand (rand.linden): Hey, what is the email list for this group? I suppose I shoud be on it :-)
* [12:44] Rand (rand.linden): Yes, not "next week"... "next meeting"
* [12:44] Catwise Yoshikawa: I'll be in a place without internet :p
* [12:44] Torben (torben.trautman): umm I knew that one once...
* [12:45] Rand (rand.linden): Due to holy week, easter, etc.
* [12:45] Ourasi Ferraris: the paradise Cat :))
* [12:45] Irene Muni: Rand: https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
* [12:45] Rand (rand.linden): Well ICtproject
* [12:45] Rand (rand.linden): oops
* [12:45] Rand (rand.linden): Ctproject
* [12:45] Rand (rand.linden): right?
* [12:45] Irene Muni: But Rand, you must ask that in SL Answers XD
* [12:45] Torben (torben.trautman): yes :)
* [12:45] Irene Muni: Right :)
* [12:45] Torben (torben.trautman): hehehe
* [12:45] Rand (rand.linden): ok will send you email about the labels on the wiki
* [12:45] Rand (rand.linden): kk
* [12:46] Catwise Yoshikawa: great
* [12:46] Rand (rand.linden): well i should go as well...
* [12:46] Torben (torben.trautman): anyone going to Amanda?
* [12:46] Irene Muni: 15 minutes autoreturn in this land? I have set the prim 1/2 hour ago :)
* [12:46] Catwise Yoshikawa: see you Rand
* [12:46] Torben (torben.trautman): errr the doc team
* [12:46] Rand (rand.linden): I will be there...
* [12:46] Rand (rand.linden): See you later!
* [12:46] Torben (torben.trautman): err the tools group?
* [12:46] Irene Muni: Greetings all from Spain :)
* [12:46] Rand (rand.linden): Bye :-)
* [12:46] Torben (torben.trautman): bye all
* [12:46] Ourasi Ferraris: see you Rand
* [12:46] Ourasi Ferraris: bye
* [12:46] Torben (torben.trautman): /me waves
* [12:46] Torben (torben.trautman): happy easter!
* [12:47] Irene Muni: thanks Torben :)
* [12:48] Ourasi Ferraris: well go to eat too
* [12:48] Irene Muni: besos Catwise, kisses Ourasi :)
* [12:48] Ourasi Ferraris: ㋡
* [12:48] Ourasi Ferraris: see you
* [12:49] Catwise Yoshikawa: see you Ourasi