Adult Content User Group/07/18/2011

==Attendees List==
*Counter Landfall (counter.landfall)
*Ginette Pinazzo (ginette.pinazzo)
*Heuristic (heuristic)
*Huntress Catteneo (huntress.catteneo)
*Hypatia Meili (hypatia.meili)
*Qie (qie)
*Silvanus (silvanus)
*Slaton Linden (slaton.linden)
*StarSong Bright (starsong.bright)
*Temperance Hax (temperance.hax)
*Tortured Scientist (tortured.scientist)
*Viale Linden (viale.linden)
*Zada Bury (zada.bury)
==Transcript for Monday July 18, 2011==
[11:05]	Ginette Pinazzo 	welcome to the ACUG, all new faces!
[11:05]	Viale Linden 	Hi zada
[11:05]	Zada Bury 	*smirks* Cuddle with Gin?
[11:05]	Counter Landfall 	Evening Viale
[11:05]	Silvanus 	good evening Viale
[11:06]	Ginette Pinazzo 	hello viale
[11:06]	Viale Linden 	whoops
[11:06]	Tortured Scientist	oh neat. Viale absorbed Ginettes cloud
[11:06]	Hypatia Meili 	hi viale
[11:06]	Silvanus 	yep for me too
[11:07]	Heuristic 	does anyone know what linden is suppose to show up?
[11:07]	Viale Linden 	Hi Hypatia
[11:07]	Ginette Pinazzo 	no idea, heuristic
[11:07]	Hypatia Meili 	oh so thats th fix for cloud form, havea linden sit on you!
[11:07]	Heuristic 	watch none show :)
[11:07]	Counter Landfall 	Evening Slaton
[11:08]	Slaton Linden 	hello all
[11:08]	Zada Bury 	Heya Slaton.
[11:08]	Viale Linden 	No Vick today?
[11:08]	Hypatia Meili 	hi Slaton
[11:08]	Slaton Linden 	howdy
[11:08]	Viale Linden 	OK - we should get started
[11:08]	Silvanus 	hi Slaton : ) nice to meet you
[11:09]	Slaton Linden 	hello silvanus, nice to meet you as well
[11:09]	Viale Linden 	I wanted to update you on our progress since last session
[11:09]	Ginette Pinazzo 	the agenda was never updated from last week...though I added an item anywya, just so it wasnt stagnant
[11:10]	Viale Linden 	Unfortunatley, we are still working on a solution for what to do with Zindra Sim (owned by Gov Linden)
[11:10]	Viale Linden 	For now, we have decided to keep its name to maintain its search ranking
[11:10]	Counter Landfall 	what seems to be the holdup?
[11:10]	Counter Landfall 	great!
[11:11]	Viale Linden 	Not saying it wont be changed, but we are keeping the status quo for now
[11:11]	Ginette Pinazzo 	its till very much in disucssion, of course
[11:12]	Qie 	I'd like to be involved in those discussions, if they should ever veer toward changing the name.
[11:12]	Counter Landfall 	maybe better spend energy on other discussions
[11:13]	Ginette Pinazzo 	Viale...did you read the 3 Compelling Reason I emailed you most recebntly?
[11:13]	StarSong Bright 	Viale, it *would* be a good idea to add something to the parcel name though so that people are clear that they are in a sim in the center of the zindra continent
[11:13]	Viale Linden 	Other developments - we briefed our creative team on ways to message Zindra & Adult content and will have a reco soon. We plan to use this to update the Help and How to in the destination guide. And possibly expand on teh destination guide
[11:14]	Qie 	that sounds like important progress. The destination guide part, especially.
[11:14]	Counter Landfall 	agreed Starsong, and Za has submitted an extensive proposal for that
[11:14]	Ginette Pinazzo 	yes the DG is a great development
[11:14]	Viale Linden 	Agree Starsong. First we need to give the Zindra Purpose then we can promote what it is
[11:15]	Temperance Hax 	Thank you for moving forward somewhat on the policing vortex adult sandbox, its good to see progress on undisputed things in existance and working well.
[11:15]	Silvanus 	well, I experienced that even residents who are here for 2 years and more, and working as Escorts or other Adult things, dont know what Zindra is ^^
[11:15]	Hypatia Meili 	yes ihave see that too
[11:15]	Zada Bury 	I agree, Sil.
[11:16]	Viale Linden 	Agree
[11:16]	Zada Bury 	But some also not know they ARE on Zindra.
[11:16]	Ginette Pinazzo 	Vortex has been in DG for soemtimes, withj its Adutl Rating...which is intersting...DG already has soem Adult material in it
[11:16]	Silvanus 	rith this too Zada ^^
[11:16]	Slaton Linden 	yes, as a group we're looking to you to define and execute the Zindra experience
[11:16]	Viale Linden 	Besides these 4 corners, are there any other issues to discuss?
[11:17]	Ginette Pinazzo 	I have a nice small announcement
[11:17]	Viale Linden 	ok
[11:17]	Temperance Hax 	Id like an update on the sandbox please?
[11:17]	Counter Landfall 	ZA would like an update on our submitted proposals
[11:17]	Ginette Pinazzo 	I have few, really, but I can do one and see if you are tired of it after that..haha
[11:17]	Temperance Hax 	We need a practical approach sometimes to maintain and improve working systems to make them less dependent on linden staff time
[11:17]	Counter Landfall 	they seem to end in a vacuum
[11:17]	Ginette Pinazzo 	my agenda item..Business Netwroking Week
[11:17]	Temperance Hax 	ideas are ver lovely and phislosphyisgreat, just while theyhppen zindra marches on:)
[11:17]	Counter Landfall 	you have created a secret 4 man Friday forum parallell to this meeting
[11:17]	Viale Linden 	Ginette - pls proceed
[11:18]	Ginette Pinazzo 	ok Viale...procedeeding...
[11:18]	Ginette Pinazzo 	Kim Rongyu has joined ZEXPO to lead the Business Networking Committee, to help plan and facilitate a week's worth of special programming in the week leading up to ZEXPO opening day. There will be events led by us and also an automated system that people can use even when the events arent happening. ......
[11:18]	Ginette Pinazzo 	The concept? Exhibitors at ZEXPO will be encouraged to meet and develop collaborative business ideas...
[11:19]	Viale Linden 	wow
[11:19]	Ginette Pinazzo 	There will be a 'reward system' for any 2 Exhibitors that can show they have developed a collaborative idea, and even a special extra reward for those who develop an idea that will debut at ZEXPO itself. With 100 Exhibitors in one place, it makes sense to promote an atmosphere of cross-promotion and business partnerships. Think: business-card exchange programs, etc This will actually be a test for something the Zindra Help Vortex has been planning to do for some via its Outreach Department. (Industry Mixers, etc)
[11:19]	Ginette Pinazzo 	http://zindrabusiness.blogspot.com/2011/07/zexpo-2011-kim-rongyu-heads-business.html
[11:19]	Ginette Pinazzo 	FIN
[11:19]	Ginette Pinazzo 	any questions abt it? please aks me anytime (after meeting woudl be nice)
[11:19]	Viale Linden 	Thanks Ginette for that update
[11:20]	Ginette Pinazzo 	sure, anytime
[11:20]	Viale Linden 	Temperance - you are up
[11:20]	Temperance Hax 	Thankyou forthe progres sion the sandbox, perhaps yu could update the meeting.
[11:21]	Temperance Hax 	I feelits imprtant to getwhatis working well andmakeitbetter,inthis case proetcting against griefers before the emdia see them,not after:)
[11:21]	Huntress Catteneo 	yes
[11:22]	Huntress Catteneo 	lot of new people coming in lately
[11:23]	Huntress Catteneo 	making Vortex their first stop
[11:23]	Slaton Linden 	Update on sandbox: we've meet with Patch and others to discuss best way to setup goverance, including giving specific management abilities. Unfortunately, it's not a easy process and we're still looking into it.
[11:23]	Hypatia Meili 	ive seen that
[11:23]	Viale Linden 	probably becuase of Destination Guide
[11:23]	Temperance Hax 	We are glad
[11:23]	Temperance Hax 	thank you
[11:23]	Temperance Hax 	accident rezzingof house etc onthe landignpoint are a small pain butreal:)
[11:24]	Huntress Catteneo 	can't come soon enough
[11:24]	Viale Linden 	Hopefully, good stuff will come out of those discussions
[11:24]	Ginette Pinazzo 	Viale....as LL has made it clear Vortex will remain an LL group...all that woudl be required, I think, is empowering the 'officers' so that LL doesn t have to manage much at all...I believe BBQ has the detaisl of waht is needded (and its mall list)
[11:24]	Huntress Catteneo 	it is actually setting some good work back again
[11:24]	Ginette Pinazzo 	actually it was busy even before the DG listing
[11:24]	Temperance Hax 	we wouldprefer to have systems inplace before anypotential castatrophe, though the sandboxes users are usuallygreat aboutmoving their houses:)
[11:25]	Viale Linden 	ok
[11:25]	Viale Linden 	anyone else?
[11:26]	Ginette Pinazzo 	I have more feel-good announcments, if anyone wanst them..haha
[11:26]	Hypatia Meili 	thats what groups arr for other then just socializing, manage land
[11:26]	Counter Landfall 	Counter Landfall suggest Viale read back the transcript
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[11:26]	Viale Linden 	Counter - do you have a question?
[11:26]	Counter Landfall 	many
[11:27]	Counter Landfall 	ZA would like an update on our submitted proposals
[11:27]	Slaton Linden 	Hypatia, yes, group land management is what we're looking into for Vortex. The fact that it's LL owned land complicates matters however. Looking for a work around.
[11:27]	Counter Landfall 	specifically the 2 that is about adult content and not Zindra
[11:27]	Hypatia Meili 	the vortex groupis LL owned group
[11:27]	Counter Landfall 	1. the proposal to ask every resident to confirm theri age and set maturity prefs in the viewer
[11:27]	Viale Linden 	We have read your proposals and we are using ideas to help us formulate our next steps. We cannot of course act on every proposal
[11:28]	Hypatia Meili 	and if it came down to you you alwasy have Linden god powers to revoke
[11:28]	Counter Landfall 	2. the proposla to offer a more anatomically correct AV on signup for a nominal fee
[11:28]	Qie 	Ummm. But the Vortex island isn't owned by the Vortex group currently, right?
[11:28]	Slaton Linden 	Hypatia, land is owned by governor linden though
[11:28]	Hypatia Meili 	nope
[11:28]	Hypatia Meili 	yes it is
[11:29]	Slaton Linden 	and that's the issue
[11:29]	Temperance Hax 	governer lindenhimself would have t comeout to any castastrophes hehe
[11:29]	Huntress Catteneo 	that would be fun to see
[11:29]	Viale Linden 	Thanks counter.
[11:29]	Hypatia Meili 	so LLcant simply set it to the vortex group?
[11:29]	StarSong Bright 	Cant a sandbox group be set up for this purpose? is that so complicated?
[11:29]	Hypatia Meili 	which is an LL group
[11:29]	Qie 	I guess the Gov could have a security orb, but that wouldn't solve prim problems.
[11:30]	Ginette Pinazzo 	teher already is the Vortex group.....for the oficvers and staff...just needs tro eb empwoered
[11:30]	Temperance Hax 	theyare working that out, there is a group and lindens own that, too:)
[11:30]	Viale Linden 	Ok
[11:30]	Viale Linden 	any other issues - we should discuss?
[11:30]	Ginette Pinazzo 	I have soem nice things to mention
[11:30]	Viale Linden 	vortex is being looked at
[11:30]	Temperance Hax 	thank you so much
[11:31]	Counter Landfall 	you could expalin why you have set up a parallel meeting structure next to this meeting?
[11:31]	Slaton Linden 	Hypathia, no, it's not a simple process. It's a largely manual process. We're looking for a way to give the group control without LL having to constantly be involved
[11:31]	Ginette Pinazzo 	a call for brainstorming, really....
[11:31]	Viale Linden 	Let me respond to counter
[11:31]	Ginette Pinazzo 	Slaton, I woudl think if you gave the group its abilities, you woudl HEV to eb so involved...just saying
[11:31]	Ginette Pinazzo 	*woudl nto have to be
[11:32]	Temperance Hax 	Gina theyare going to:) yay
[11:32]	Viale Linden 	I find it easier to create smaller groups to discuss these issues. While we accept proposalas from everyone to hlep us. We will invite different people as we move forward with Adult issues
[11:32]	Ginette Pinazzo 	double yay
[11:33]	Counter Landfall 	byt you blatantly ignore the only community group in Zindra?
[11:33]	Qie 	Right: getting some diversity of opinion, even within smaller samples, is pretty important. So that's good.
[11:33]	Slaton Linden 	yes, Ginette. That's our thinking. We just need to figure out the best, most efficient way to execute
[11:33]	Viale Linden 	makes sense?
[11:33]	Ginette Pinazzo 	yes Slaton..good to hear
[11:33]	Viale Linden 	Qie - your search emails about zindra helped me
[11:33]	Qie 	glad to hear it, Viale.
[11:34]	Ginette Pinazzo 	actually, from what I can tell, all of those peoepl on those small meetigs are ZA members....
[11:34]	Viale Linden 	Counter - I also appreciate your concerns about free market
[11:34]	Viale Linden 	and being careful about agendas
[11:34]	Temperance Hax 	I am notin anythink tanks but thinkits a great idea you have them
[11:35]	Viale Linden 	Bill helps on vortex issues
[11:35]	Temperance Hax 	:) hes the expert
[11:35]	Viale Linden 	Ok
[11:35]	Viale Linden 	any other issues to discuss?
[11:35]	Ginette Pinazzo 	hes passionate abt it
[11:35]	Ginette Pinazzo 	yes
[11:35]	Viale Linden 	Anyone other than Ginette?
[11:35]	Counter Landfall 	you still did not adress the 2 specific proposals Viale
[11:35]	Ginette Pinazzo 	haha
[11:36]	Counter Landfall 	2 that really would help adult and would not bee seen as you (Ll) peddling adult content
[11:36]	Viale Linden 	Counter - good feedback on user experience but not in the cards right now
[11:36]	Ginette Pinazzo 	I think the anatomical AV idea is veryt clever
[11:36]	Counter Landfall 	and verifying the age for everyone?
[11:36]	Counter Landfall 	you have jsut instituted a new procdure
[11:37]	Temperance Hax 	the terrformingi issue at landing point was fixed too I heard.. yay
[11:37]	Counter Landfall 	perhaps have everyone confirm and set prefs at that point in time would make sense?
[11:37]	Viale Linden 	Yes, we have a wide auidence and reg caters to several different kinds of folks.
[11:38]	Counter Landfall 	a better avatar would greatly help your retantion
[11:38]	Viale Linden 	Yes, I think the adult verification step is being refined into an even better experience
[11:38]	Temperance Hax 	fantastic news
[11:38]	Hypatia Meili 	i'm not sure i agree with mandatory verfiy for all, easly availble and make all aware of it yes
[11:38]	Hypatia Meili 	i see 2 problems
[11:38]	Viale Linden 	It is not at reg.
[11:38]	Counter Landfall 	not mandatory verify, ask people (who often have lied about their age) to just confirm their age
[11:38]	Viale Linden 	reg needs to be easy and fun
[11:38]	Counter Landfall 	andoffer them to set their prefs in the viewer
[11:39]	Viale Linden 	adult content verification at registration is not that
[11:39]	Temperance Hax 	a lot ofpeople balk at giving personal l info before an app is "trusted" by them soit might be an issue
[11:39]	Viale Linden 	+1 Temp
[11:39]	Silvanus 	yes easy and frun , thats it
[11:39]	Counter Landfall 	and many want to come clean after
[11:39]	Hypatia Meili 	well 2 things forcing them toomay cause mer to sunbmit false info to it
[11:39]	Silvanus 	*fun
[11:39]	Viale Linden 	the new reg is super clean, I would hate to add more friction
[11:39]	Counter Landfall 	you can market it as a scurity issue
[11:39]	Counter Landfall 	security
[11:40]	Counter Landfall 	but at the same tiime it will immensely help the adult regiosn to get traffic
[11:40]	Viale Linden 	will scare people away
[11:40]	Counter Landfall 	and it will increase your retention
[11:40]	Hypatia Meili 	and ther is still a need to have delibrtly unvefied avs tocheck land settings
[11:40]	Hypatia Meili 	but doing it should be easy and obvious
[11:41]	Viale Linden 	It will be
[11:41]	Hypatia Meili 	whatwe need is toge the word out to those who dont know about it
[11:41]	Counter Landfall 	not if you make the confirmation of age mandatory
[11:41]	Counter Landfall 	on next login
[11:41]	Hypatia Meili 	adlut, verfication & zindra
[11:41]	Counter Landfall 	then the problem goes away
[11:41]	Counter Landfall 	like a password reset
[11:41]	Counter Landfall 	is how it would be perceived
[11:42]	Viale Linden 	Counter - not in the cards right now at reg
[11:42]	Hypatia Meili 	som are afraid tosub mit eventhat much RL info
[11:42]	Counter Landfall 	you already ask for age on signup?
[11:42]	Slaton Linden 	Counter, we're not going to get internal focus on altering reg or login flow at this stage for many reasons
[11:42]	Counter Landfall 	how do you otherwise determine who is 16 or 18?
[11:42]	Viale Linden 	It is easier now and gives the user more control today. will get more elegant soon
[11:43]	Zada Bury 	It would scare some, which can't good speak/read english ... and the webside is not in any language avaiable.
[11:43]	Slaton Linden 	yes, Zada, that's one reason
[11:43]	Hypatia Meili 	while this may seem backwards to our purpose, ther should also be a opout of veifying
[11:44]	Counter Landfall 	dont see it will scare anyone to coonfirm the age they gave at signup
[11:44]	Hypatia Meili 	evenif of age RL
[11:44]	Qie 	That age confirmation for existing residents (it's just a checkbox, right?) could possibly accompany the next ToS change confirmation. I doubt many people turn away from those. Although we haven't had one in a while.
[11:44]	Viale Linden 	SL is not all about Adult content. It has more to offer like Relay for life
[11:44]	Counter Landfall 	exactly Qie
[11:44]	Temperance Hax 	My g rate d home in sl is seeing increasing numbers of classroom newbies on assignments for college- sudders at what complusory verification may do
[11:44]	Counter Landfall 	that is a good point in time to do such a move
[11:45]	StarSong Bright 	I would really like to see LL quit treating "adult content" in SL like a bunch of teenagers contrfonted with a sex ed class.
[11:45]	Counter Landfall 	of course Viale, but it would help the adult regions massively
[11:45]	Counter Landfall 	and would not get LL in the slammer if you see what I mean
[11:45]	Slaton Linden 	guys, we're in a circular argument here. No changes are coming for reg or login flow for adult or other communities
[11:46]	Counter Landfall 	and, it would cost less than an ad agency ;-)
[11:46]	Slaton Linden 	Counter, thanks for the point of view. Next topic? Anyone?
[11:47]	Zada Bury 	Mmmm ... a question about the "Podyan" sim ... it appear gone ... technical problems, Moles-building?
[11:47]	StarSong Bright 	Will this group ever take up the issue of adult content in the estates - and not just here on Zindra?
[11:47]	Viale Linden 	Will check Zada - not aware
[11:47]	Hypatia Meili 	just bring it up
[11:47]	Zada Bury 	left from: Nelsonia (25,81,36)
[11:47]	Counter Landfall 	what we jsut discussed would help all 2400 adult regions
[11:47]	Ginette Pinazzo 	Viale..if you read teh 3 Compelling Reasoins email I sent yoiu, Podyan is bascially explained
[11:48]	Viale Linden 	Thanks Ginetter
[11:48]	Zada Bury 	left = west
[11:48]	Ginette Pinazzo 	it is/was actually a criticial point in LL's plans ...youll find it intersting
[11:49]	Ginette Pinazzo 	I agree, Counter...these topics relaet to all of Adult...you dont feel that , Star?
[11:49]	Viale Linden 	Ok - will look into that
[11:49]	Temperance Hax 	thnk you Viale
[11:50]	StarSong Bright 	they do and they dont. it all seems very "zindra-focused" to me
[11:50]	Viale Linden 	will need my reading glasses - ginette sends me volumes
[11:50]	Hypatia Meili 	welllsomissues are zindra focused
[11:50]	Huntress Catteneo 	I have noticed these meetings are getting nice and quiet and orderly, but sadly it seems to be because people are losing heart, many feel it is all platitudes and no action :(
[11:50]	Hypatia Meili 	orginly this was zindra comunity meeting
[11:50]	Ginette Pinazzo 	thyese meetings have always been a mix...often abt half and half, depending on whats going on
[11:50]	Hypatia Meili 	but its been expanded
[11:51]	StarSong Bright 	naturally. but as per usual, it feels like all eyes are on zindra only. which, while natural, interests me less overall. that's all.
[11:51]	Zada Bury 	Well ... and the verification progess is something for "all" adult ... but if we stuck work in, we see for Zindra maybe a bit profit to hold people here.
[11:51]	Ginette Pinazzo 	Star..you can always bring topcis to the table, and shift it the way you like..its open
[11:51]	Hypatia Meili 	and zindra is the adult mainland so its wher adult hubs etc wil bee
[11:51]	Viale Linden 	I agree Star
[11:51]	StarSong Bright 	i would like to address how to get adult venues into the destinations guide, perhaps next monday? as an agenda item?
[11:51]	Slaton Linden 	Starsong, reason for focus on Zindra now is because it's a glaring issue in experience. People find it in search, visit it and are confused/disappointed to lack of experience
[11:51]	Zada Bury 	Here the agenda, which can be filled by everyone: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_Content_User_Group
[11:52]	Viale Linden 	working on resolution
[11:52]	Zada Bury 	Zindra...sim ^.^
[11:52]	Hypatia Meili 	wellwe do ned to alls focus an zindra as gat way to ALL adult
[11:52]	Ginette Pinazzo 	Id like to mention the viral video project..its too muhc fun NOT to mention
[11:52]	Counter Landfall 	Can it Zada? I thought the new procedure was to submit to community@lindenlab.com and they would moderate?
[11:52]	StarSong Bright 	i would like to see the zindra sim as it is, but with those shops built there used to highlight successful adult venues, NOT just on the continent but also in the islands.
[11:53]	Ginette Pinazzo 	I thinkm its a mox of both, counter....send emaila and pout things on agenda
[11:53]	Zada Bury 	if the people TP to some adult location, into a club or what-ever ... they have found, what looking for ... and even not know, if they are on Zindra (continent) or private sim
[11:53]	Counter Landfall 	can Viale or Slatorn reiterate the procdure for the aganda please?
[11:53]	StarSong Bright 	if LL wants to highlight Zindra, I think they need to highlight all the names of ALL the continents and whats there. i have no idea what the other continents are called.
[11:53]	Zada Bury 	oh ... are my info outdated?
[11:54]	Viale Linden 	send me an email
[11:54]	Viale Linden 	community@
[11:55]	Viale Linden 	Ginette uses both
[11:55]	Hypatia Meili 	Star thats a bit difrent then higlight non zindra adult
[11:55]	Counter Landfall 	well there should be one procedure all stick to for clarity?
[11:55]	Ginette Pinazzo 	I use both )(fro now) because I believe the community shoudl eb able to preview the material when possible
[11:55]	Viale Linden 	I will be on vacation next week, but Slaton will be here.
[11:56]	Counter Landfall 	and I agree with Ginette, the incoming proposals needs to be listed for review somewhere
[11:56]	Zada Bury 	Pillow-Fight!!!! .... oups *snikcers*
[11:56]	Ginette Pinazzo 	and Viale...you dotn get volumes from me..mayeb one a week..haha
[11:56]	Slaton Linden 	owls don't like pillows... ;)
[11:56]	StarSong Bright 	StarSong Bright excuses myself, RL calls.
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[11:57]	Ginette Pinazzo 	ciao Star
[11:57]	Counter Landfall 	understandable :-)
[11:57]	Hypatia Meili 	well i was putting volumes for a while but they seem to have all been adressed
[11:57]	Hypatia Meili 	at the moment
[11:57]	Viale Linden 	Thats our goal - make this meeting quiet
[11:58]	Viale Linden 	We hope to have reolutions soon
[11:58]	Viale Linden 	we are working internally and with you all
[11:58]	Hypatia Meili 	i have an issue that isnt adult but efects us more
[11:58]	Counter Landfall 	great - everyone mute each otehr and it will be quiet :-))
[11:58]	Zada Bury 	Oh, not back in that days, Counter ... please not!
[11:59]	Counter Landfall 	I never muted anyone ;-))
[11:59]	Hypatia Meili 	the marjet is another outlet for getting peole toour adult location , adertising as it were
[11:59]	Temperance Hax 	pleased with the progress, i hope next meeting we can report the vortex issue fixed
[11:59]	Viale Linden 	Hypatia - do you want to send me an email or discuss here?
[11:59]	Ginette Pinazzo 	for wahts its worth, counter...I rthink yoru anatomically upgraded AV idea is a winner if doen right...maybe as an extra featuredownt the road
[11:59]	Counter Landfall 	lets hope so Ginette
[11:59]	Silvanus 	wish you a well regeneration, Viale : )
[11:59]	Hypatia Meili 	Blondin had broughit up as a "marketig" tool
[12:00]	Viale Linden 	Thanks Silvanus
[12:00]	Zada Bury 	Send us pictures ^_^
[12:00]	Viale Linden 	will do
[12:00]	Ginette Pinazzo 	I think extra 'features' a re aclever marketing gimmick and can bring in extar peoepl
[12:00]	Counter Landfall 	it will keep new signups stay for hours and perhaps days
[12:00]	Counter Landfall 	and extra revenue to LL too
[12:00]	Counter Landfall 	well, to all
[12:01]	Slaton Linden 	Hypatia, we'll look into it. Can you send email?
[12:01]	Viale Linden 	I like the idea of the comunity filling that need
[12:01]	Hypatia Meili 	well i really dont have much to say other then relavamce and etc is stil badly broken
[12:01]	Ginette Pinazzo 	does anyone want to ehar abt the viral video project? (we dotn need Viale here to talk abt it)
[12:01]	Zada Bury 	the what?
[12:01]	Viale Linden 	Thanks everyone
[12:01]	Qie 	thanks Viale
[12:01]	Viale Linden 	Talk to you soon
[12:01]	Zada Bury 	Thank you for your Time, Viale and Slaton.
[12:01]	Counter Landfall 	cheers guys
[12:02]	Hypatia Meili 	bye Viale , slaton
[12:02]	Zada Bury 	Have a relaxing time without us.
[12:02]	Silvanus 	ty : ) you both Linden : )
[12:02]	Ginette Pinazzo 	arrivederci
[12:02]	Slaton Linden 	Hypatia, send email to add to agenda for next week then. Thanks everyone
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