Doc Team/2009-08-12

== Transcript ==
[12:58]	:	Hello Zai, Ricken, Arawn
[12:58]	:	Hi, Kate, Zai. Is people almost here?
[12:59]	:	Hi all.
[12:59]	:	Long time, no see, Ricken!
[12:59]	:	How is everyone this week?
[12:59]	:	FRIENDLY GREETINGS!
[13:00]	:	Hi, Jeremy. It must be sparse because Torley hasn't twittered yet.
[13:00]	 	has pinged you.
[13:00]	:	Hi, Torley.
[13:00]	:	I think some Residents are on their way to SLCC today also.
[13:00]	:	Oh, so today, you can focus on us poor people.
[13:01]	:	yay poor people rock
[13:01]	:	esp poor college students
[13:01]	:	On the intyernet, nobody can tell if you're a Jackal for real, but in SL, we can't tell an Egyptian Jackal from an Aussie Dingo, without a language disclosure.
[13:02]	:	hello all!
[13:02]	:	Zai, I see your little floaty pet... Eric! What made you decide to name him that? :)
[13:02]	:	How do I find an SL tech savvy person in walking distance of Peterborough Cathedral?
[13:02]	:	It#s the name of my brother. uhm... would have been. was... something like that *urgs*
[13:02]	:	Hi, Jonello
[13:02]	:	^^;
[13:03]	:	oh, the g-team cleaned the griefer prims i see
[13:03]	 	torley :-)
[13:03]	:	few hours ago there were a few prims here that were flooding the sim with textures
[13:03]	:	hello everyone
[13:03]	:	Ack!
[13:03]	:	Hello Daniel.
[13:04]	:	ellow =)
[13:04]	:	you had to get in close to see them tho
[13:04]	:	within 10 meters or so
[13:05]	:	Welcome everyone to our office hours!
[13:05]	:	Minds me of the naked man, who was taking a shower in public. Police couldn't see him, until some old lady lent her binoculars.
[13:05]	:	Ahhh I see Zai. :) Hehe.
[13:05]	:	hello everyone
[13:05]	:	:)
[13:05]	:	Youri, and also, awhile ago, the G-Team was absorbed into the RESI Team which focuses on the inworld experience. So much to keep up with!
[13:05]	:	Hey,m Marianne
[13:06]	:	We've had a series of blog posts explaining various support teams... in case you haven't seen the last feature on Tescalation...
[13:06]	:	Hiya
[13:06]	:	Will the G-Team have office hours again?
[13:06]	:	hello :)
[13:06]	:	I have a knowledge base article that needs updating
[13:06]	:	Hey Marianne
[13:06]	:	hi marianne :-)
[13:06]	:	https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/community/support/blog/2009/08/06/tescalation-life
[13:06]	:	Ricken, please do share details!
[13:06]	:	oh, didnt know that torley! I actually didnt pay attention to SL or a few weeks, was taking a holiday so to say
[13:07]	:	https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=4722
[13:07]	:	youri have holiday ? no way
[13:07]	:	its about finding the avatar UUID
[13:07]	:	lol
[13:07]	:	even I could use a holiday aster ;)
[13:07]	:	no u cant, even in dream
[13:08]	:	lol
[13:08]	:	(waiting av and stuffs rezz b4 sitting)
[13:08]	:	OK Ricken... go on please... ? :)
[13:08]	:	I had to do that too, Asterion
[13:08]	:	i was playing guildwars for a while again and doing other things :)
[13:09]	:	it is no longer valid when they updated search a while back i assume they took out the displaying of uuid in search
[13:09]	:	was planning on 3 weeks, but it seems people were needing me already after 1 week, so kinda picking up slowly again
[13:09]	:	When did they ever do that?
[13:10]	:	anyways, lets not take over the meeting, its the doc team meeting, not the youri ashton meeting afterall :p
[13:10]	:	haha
[13:10]	:	Ricken, the UUID is still shown in the "Link to this page" but it's not clear what you're referring to within the article that needs changing?
[13:12]	:	Lotta peeps dropping in all of a sudden! Welcome, welcome!
[13:12]	:	hmmm nevermind it does show maybe it was just a glitch that day
[13:12]	:	Sorry Jeremy
[13:12]	 	has pinged you.
[13:12]	:	hi Aster
[13:12]	:	No worries!
[13:12]	:	noticed the same thing torley! great having more people here!
[13:12]	:	hey patty :)
[13:12]	:	Welcome to the Doc Team office hour.
[13:12]	:	kate and jon are very silent today i noticed :p
[13:12]	 	thinks: It's mostly Torley's Tweet
[13:12]	:	(i oticed all r very silentious today) :)
[13:13]	:	!
[13:13]	 	is also pretty silent today
[13:13]	:	Quietly looking at the KB article Ricken mentioned :)
[13:13]	 	pokes the Jello.
[13:13]	:	just waiting for a good moment to jump in
[13:13]	:	Version 3 of my WindLight settings should be out in 2-3 weeks or so. For anyone curious.
[13:13]	:	:)
[13:13]	:	any time is a good time jon! :)
[13:13]	:	cool
[13:13]	:	(Version 2 is @ http://bit.ly/windlight )
[13:13]	:	heya ㋡
[13:13]	:	fhats great Torley :) yay
[13:13]	:	Greetings from SF! Doc Team will be giving a workshop tomorrow at SLCC. Will we get to meet any of you there?
[13:13]	:	I listen to a diverse array of music and that's inspiring to channel atmospheres. Some other Lindens have been using the settings to make photos for the forthcoming website redesign...
[13:14]	:	oh, cool, version 2 of your windlight pack i presume?
[13:14]	:	I'll be there, Kate. I'm also workin' the convention
[13:14]	:	Torley will be joining us from inworld during our workshop.
[13:14]	:	Fantastic Marianne!
[13:14]	:	Thanks for all your pictures featuring them, Daniel! http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielvoyager/3046771446/
[13:14]	:	Yes Youri, that's right.
[13:15]	:	I use a few of yours pretty often, Torley, but lately I've been loving Mescaline Tammas'
[13:15]	:	cool!
[13:15]	:	Yes, I'm pleased when I see Resis share their WL packs, Mescaline has some very nice sepia and moody tones.
[13:15]	:	I didnt get to it yet to make more myself, but I will create more and release them freely for everyone
[13:15]	:	Torley winlight v2 ?!? :D
[13:15]	 	notices http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Mixed_Reality hassn't been wikified
[13:15]	:	i wish i could have come to the slcc sorry kate
[13:15]	:	I wasnt able to acquire funds to go to SLCC but i will be in some panels from in-world
[13:15]	:	They appeared to work quite effectively in an Eternal WindLight video I saw!
[13:15]	:	ill give a link as soon as it's completed :)
[13:16]	:	oh nice Ricken. Which panels?
[13:16]	:	Yann, alas, just my settings, not a major upgrade to WindLight itself.
[13:16]	:	Torley - I've founs some of mescalines to be some of the most realistic skies out there. ShadowSwt, with a dash more blue, really makes for a real-world image
[13:16]	:	Is any of SLCC being broadcast inworld?
[13:16]	:	ShadowSet*
[13:16]	:	interesting ㋡
[13:16]	:	most of it is being broadcast in-world
[13:16]	:	I wasn't quite sure about it yet @Mixed reality. Will have a look again after the meeting
[13:16]	:	Mari, yeah, they looked really nice in various machinima... and that's always a pleasure, seeing them extended to other creations. Actually applied and captured on film. :)
[13:16]	:	from what i have heard
[13:17]	:	i can however not use OpenGL for a while, since the graphical drivers keep getting messed up if I startup SL with that
[13:17]	:	i need to install, and restart i think ㋡
[13:17]	:	Now if only I could use shadows...
[13:17]	:	Do you have a link to info, Ricken?
[13:17]	:	For anyone who wants Mescaline's... http://www.flickr.com/photos/mescalinetammas/3513305333/ :D
[13:17]	:	if u want some nice videos about your winlight machinima, i got some nice builds if u want :)
[13:17]	:	blue screens, crashing during the game, really weird things visible...
[13:17]	:	what's the "Lyre of Ur" project that wiki page says it was created for?
[13:17]	:	friday i am on the NPC lessons learned and success stories
[13:18]	:	Asterion, SLURLs/landmarks are most recently welcome.
[13:18]	:	saturday health support group best pratices and how to start a nonprofit and bring it into SL
[13:18]	:	Please ask questions out in the open, I apologize I can't get to IMs right now... or usually, infact.
[13:18]	:	http://lyre-of-ur.com The guy should hve a presence, in world, but is afraid of what Internet on Uppers will do to his available time.
[13:18]	:	Ricken, I'll try to get to those tracks :)
[13:18]	:	and sorry for the little disturb ㋡
[13:18]	:	hehe ㋡
[13:18]	:	http://www.flickr.com/photos/25439905@N08/
[13:18]	:	Pathfinder will be in the health support group as well
[13:18]	:	hola!
[13:19]	:	Hey Waelya!
[13:19]	:	Mari! : ))
[13:19]	 	grins
[13:19]	:	its going to be busy weekend netroot nation is also the same weekend
[13:19]	:	about slurl, well the sim name of my mine workshop is Second Earth 3 (in the scilands)
[13:19]	:	Ricken: yes, I am looking forward to the health and education tracks with Path.
[13:19]	:	Torley this work on snoglobe too? ㋡
[13:19]	:	mine= main
[13:19]	:	Yann, does what work?
[13:19]	:	hey yann :)
[13:20]	:	i need to restart i think ㋡
[13:20]	:	yep restsart ㋡
[13:20]	:	moment ㋡
[13:21]	:	think i have a good question: currently the group tags are limited to not many letters euhm.. (kinda still in holiday mode here) anyways, it might be good to make the group tags (tags like owner, officer, etc) a little longer, if only with 5 letters
[13:21]	:	Youri, what's an example of a long group tag that can't be done right now?
[13:22]	:	ugh... dont crash on me now pc.... :o
[13:22]	:	well, for example, use my group tag now
[13:22]	:	BRP Owner
[13:22]	:	about group, a bigger number of groups couls be usefull too :)
[13:22]	:	+d
[13:22]	:	Asterion, yes, long story on that... http://jira.secondlife.com has many details. :)
[13:22]	:	I suspect my current group tag would have some spaces if it could
[13:22]	:	ohhh nice i see tor setting ㋡
[13:23]	:	i prefere the facts to the stories :)
[13:23]	:	geez !!
[13:23]	:	if i wanted to fill in a little more with, lets say the 'brp scripter/builder' tag, it just allows 1 more sign, so its kinda short
[13:23]	:	crap sofa! ㋡
[13:23]	:	wb yann :)
[13:23]	:	thought it would be nice to add a little more in there
[13:23]	:	wow
[13:23]	:	afterall, that part didnt really change yet
[13:24]	:	I wonder what % of Residents actually have group tags visible.
[13:24]	:	What is the character limit on group tags now?
[13:24]	:	i usually have, and a lot more i have noticed
[13:24]	:	thank you very mutch torley, i think this can do a great expreariance with the space navigator lol ㋡
[13:24]	:	I suppose that should be on the limits page'
[13:24]	:	Hmmm... I don't know offhand, but I know how to test!
[13:24]	:	only a selected few dont like to do this in public areas it seems
[13:24]	:	Torley - it seems like a sizable number. I usually have one on because of the need to wear it while building
[13:24]	 	is numb and clumsy
[13:24]	:	scared that they would be harrased for it i hear from some
[13:24]	:	Mine is 17 characters - that's the basic tag member for our group
[13:25]	:	Yeah, it should totally be on the limits page!
[13:25]	:	i received spacenavigator today, i will wait to weekend to use it! so excited i am with it!
[13:25]	:	OH YAY WAELYA... I hope you do wonderful things with it.
[13:25]	:	*awaits what Jeremy finds out*
[13:25]	 	has pinged you.
[13:25]	:	I so wish there was an "allowed" list for building on a residents land, rather than it having to be handled via group tags
[13:25]	:	most residents i know keep group tags visible
[13:25]	:	I love the space nav, especially for giving tours inworld
[13:26]	:	marianne yes :)
[13:26]	:	there is a resident allow for land
[13:26]	 	allowed groups and disallowed nations, for building and scripting on parcels
[13:26]	:	I've never used it Kate (too spendy for me atm), but I've always heard good things
[13:26]	:	I'm finding that 20 characters is possible...
[13:26]	:	however, i agree that this is often not very handy to use
[13:26]	:	Permissions is a tricky thing — the current split between parcel permissions and region/estate permissions is understandably confusing.
[13:26]	:	waela let us know how you like using the space nav in SL.
[13:26]	:	That would be a really long list, Arawan
[13:26]	:	If we ould list allwed builders, merchants wouldn't need so many alts
[13:26]	:	how many time i tryed to duplicate a part of a build in a sim, forgetting to put the specific tag, moving the part instead of duplicate it
[13:26]	:	's true, Arawn. And I could drump half my groups
[13:26]	:	ok i will do... i want rty to make machinimas.. i hear good to use with it
[13:27]	:	Permissions need to allow enough granularity for flexibility, yet be easy-to-understand. It's difficult.
[13:27]	:	dump*
[13:27]	:	What'sGranularity?
[13:27]	:	Oh sorry, misunderstood what you meant Arawn
[13:27]	 	wonders if Granularity is on the Wiki
[13:27]	:	as builder, i agree on that. I dont need multiple avi's for building, i do need one to get away from it, like most Linden's would have no doubt
[13:27]	:	Marianne, it takes a little getting used to, since its a little sensitive, and turns opposite than expected, but once it's worth mastering.
[13:27]	:	honestly in permissions stuff SL is starting to fall behind some of the 3rd party grids
[13:28]	:	*but worth mastering
[13:28]	 	nods
[13:28]	 	wishes she could afford space navigator
[13:28]	:	I'm sure I'll see a few of em at the Westin
[13:28]	:	Permissions might be an area uncomfortable for theLinden Labs mindset. I think I rememer a remedy for that
[13:29]	:	yes, especially in Pathfinders track. He loves the space nav too.
[13:30]	:	not many people with questions i guess
[13:30]	:	i not know if this is good place to say it.. but i want say "congrats" about works done by LDPW... nice places i saw.. just i want say maybe cool if in all of them can rezz stuff at least by 5 minutes...
[13:30]	:	sorry my english..
[13:30]	:	Oh, Michael's Hour at 3PM would be even better
[13:30]	:	It's always nice to hear people praise good work :)
[13:31]	:	your english looks okay to me waelya, i dont really see problems in it ;)
[13:31]	:	waelya, u could tdirectly tell them then, they got a meeting avery wednesday :)
[13:31]	:	today 3pm?
[13:31]	:	Yes, Warlya - 3pm SLT in Shamon.
[13:31]	:	ok cool
[13:31]	:	Ya, they do good works. I wish they had more of their stuff on the wiki.
[13:31]	:	3PM in Shamon.
[13:31]	:	"SLT" is deprecated, we go by "Pacific Time" or "PT" now. =)
[13:31]	:	is nice nice works...
[13:31]	:	waelya your english is alright. I understood easily enough
[13:31]	:	their list is good, but could be better I think
[13:31]	:	and do better second life
[13:31]	:	I'm depreciated too, Torley, so it all goes hand in hand
[13:31]	 	grins
[13:31]	:	much better torley, then we all know atleast for what it stands ;)
[13:31]	:	Hahaha.
[13:32]	:	easier to change it into GMT for example :)
[13:32]	:	Anyhow, I think the Mixed Reality Page might be open to better precision
[13:32]	:	with SLT it was a guessing game ;)
[13:32]	:	the only issue with the SLPW is the restricted team (as they only can hire from 6 usa states and 2 other countries). impossible to know why excatly :)
[13:32]	:	some finantial reason i guess
[13:32]	:	It was an interesting discussion when we made that protocol change. I remember the arguments, "Second Life itself... doesn't have a single time zone..." "Shouldn't it be Linden Lab time?" "Well, we're getting more offices around the world."
[13:32]	:	ooh I have a question LL is starting the business oriented working world islands, website etc. is their going to be a knowledge base or wiki set up geared towards enterprise to go with it
[13:33]	 	shoud aplyfrom his broter's address
[13:33]	:	spain here.. so hard to keep more later of 4 pm slt...
[13:33]	:	I always liked the concept of SLT :)
[13:33]	:	Numb Keyboard
[13:33]	:	Asterion - I might have another group or two with them, but that restriction is a baffling one, ya
[13:33]	:	Me Too, Riven.
[13:33]	:	I sure hope the Netherlands will get a office as well Torley, would love to work with LL :)
[13:33]	:	We should go or Geographic Time. What tme of day do people tend to log on?
[13:34]	:	LL should drop an office in the carolinas
[13:34]	:	We do have some Dutch Lindens, or Lindens living in the Netherlands.
[13:34]	:	no no
[13:34]	:	i sometime build for some lindens, i dont see why i couldnt build for a linden land in mainlands :)
[13:34]	:	ricken, that's an interesting question -- the guess i'm going to make is that enterprises will probably develop their own independent help resources
[13:34]	:	get a devlopement in Canada before :P
[13:34]	:	loll
[13:34]	:	i know that there are at least 2
[13:34]	:	data for example
[13:34]	:	drop a office in Hartford CT
[13:35]	:	Hartfort is only a couple hours from Boston :-)
[13:35]	:	however, so far I been rejected just because the payment couldnt work.... or thats atleast the story i received....
[13:35]	:	er, Hartford :-P
[13:35]	:	Are you in connecticut, Xstorm? I'm in Bridgeport
[13:35]	:	everybody speculating about why Linden Lab has offices in some locations, but not others: i'm not a financial officer, but I believe the limitations are imposed by local tax regulations of one sort or another
[13:35]	:	We do hire remotely depending on need, however. Always check http://lindenlab.com/employment
[13:35]	:	im in CT yes'
[13:35]	:	jon for sure
[13:35]	:	tax regulations or employment laws; it's out of our hands
[13:35]	:	"Max. Group Name and Title - 20 single-byte characters " added to https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Limits
[13:35]	:	jon, but the l$ can escape that rule
[13:36]	:	Aye, despite our virtual world freedoms, we need to work with real-world laws.
[13:36]	:	Nice, Torley.
[13:36]	:	Thanks for testing that, Jeremy!
[13:36]	 	has pinged you.
[13:36]	:	how many hours work a Linden? must be hard to say...
[13:36]	:	Thanks, Torley :)
[13:36]	:	Linden Lab is not about to try to circumvent laws, Asterion
[13:36]	:	strange american laws more torley :p
[13:36]	:	asterion... dont count on L$ circumventing tax laws
[13:36]	:	theres some places that tax virtual currancies now
[13:36]	:	Being a Linden inworld is only a very small part of what most Lindens do. The rest of the time, we work relatively normal jobs at a company that makes an awesome software product.
[13:36]	:	well, ok, in admetting it can be restrictions about simple user, what about is the builder is a company
[13:37]	:	then no worry about the fiscality modalities
[13:37]	:	the company pay taxes
[13:37]	:	I don't think Gambling Chips count as income un til cashed i.
[13:37]	:	waelya, depends. 40-hr. workweek is standard employment for a fulltime position but sometimes staying later is needed to get projects done.
[13:37]	:	tax can be tricky to figure out, you just have to remember the sudden VAT chares for EU residents
[13:37]	:	yes undersatnd
[13:37]	:	However, we stay away from unhealthy "crunching"... that leads to misery.
[13:38]	:	i feel like i should insert a further disclaimer that none of us here work for Linden Lab HR, either
[13:38]	:	Torley in frnehc customer specialiste, is an 40 hours per week? ㋡
[13:38]	:	hehe
[13:38]	 	giggles "thats why carolinas would be a good spot. most days if you have to stay late you could walk out of the office buildings and onto the beach and still get your wifi :P
[13:38]	:	SL seems to be globally accepted, so why not have only the rules we really need. LL is going crasy with just american rules since the american citizen is so quickly hurt by even the slightest thing. I think it might be very wise to make a big change in this
[13:38]	:	french*
[13:38]	:	I'm not sure what standard French or other European hours are. But surely that info must be on the... Internet! :D
[13:38]	:	Different countries have different labor laws.
[13:38]	:	not european, i,m from quebec ㋡
[13:39]	:	same here Torley... 40 hours week stander
[13:39]	:	(in france that's 35 hours/week payed 38)
[13:39]	:	Hi all
[13:39]	:	sorry for not turning up so early
[13:39]	:	(Oliver Szondi here)
[13:39]	 	Holland, where the Duck is equired to enjoy the adventure
[13:39]	:	dont get me wrong tho, i just dont see the use of many of the rules since here in europe we dont even have anything simular, just because we dont need them :)
[13:39]	:	38 un the UK, abut 35 in France
[13:39]	:	Ahhh. I seem to recall (when I lived in Canada) that Quebec doesn't allow certain types of contests, either. ;)
[13:39]	:	well i need a job and Linden Lab will be perfect
[13:40]	:	european coutnries have their own rules we dont have too youri. *Srhugs*
[13:40]	:	Law is often a tough thing because many people expect blanket answers but, they seldom ever exist. "Rules & regulations dependent on your local jurisdiction apply." And all that stuff.
[13:40]	:	Torley; you know the Canada!! great! ㋡
[13:40]	:	Our jobs are listed on our website xstorm
[13:40]	:	the dutch are sober people arawn, so we dont really see the use in all those rules, specially since we never actually start suing eachother for just a small thing ;)
[13:40]	:	Torley, if i need to move i get my passport and i wait for other contact of human ressource ㋡
[13:40]	:	but do to my health i must stay at home
[13:40]	:	http://lindenlab.com/employment
[13:41]	:	I apply about every two months or so
[13:41]	:	currently the Dutch are watching their riot police beat up english soccor fans
[13:41]	:	one day i will be hired
[13:41]	:	lol
[13:41]	:	so i have yet to see a job that i can fit in to do to my health
[13:41]	:	^^
[13:41]	:	We're still looking for a Community Communications Manager to help with the blog and beyond.
[13:41]	:	if i ever was allowed to wrok for LL, I want to be security
[13:41]	:	Torley@ i have send my resume since march, and i get the first awnser since 3 week ㋡
[13:41]	:	i cant even apply since i aint even in any of the allowed 'zones', so its pretty useless to do so
[13:41]	:	Oh I'm glad to hear that, Yann!
[13:41]	 	woners if English Soccer Fans pay extra to bleed on Dutch Cops; those guys even pay to see English Soccer.
[13:41]	:	yes i was going to apply but still being a communications student doesnt help much
[13:41]	:	But Youri, "Linden also offers qualified candidates the possibility to Work from Home in other select locations. Certain positions are location specific and will be noted in the posting as such."
[13:41]	:	hehe LL employment office hour :)
[13:42]	:	If you're exceptional by all means SHOW US UR MAD SKILLZ lol
[13:42]	:	they used to have an hr office hour
[13:42]	:	Moonlabbing, FTW!
[13:42]	:	=^_^=
[13:42]	:	Michael Linden even started shouting at me once because i asked about it during one of his meetings
[13:42]	:	Torley@ due to my location i have a little trouble, but for me is not a trouble ㋡
[13:42]	:	i'm really leery of making even vague assurances that we can't back up 100%
[13:42]	:	I applied on some linden website about a year ago, and it was just awfullly designed
[13:42]	:	i want this jobs and i dio all step to get this jobs ㋡
[13:42]	:	plus if LL hires you you can always get a work visa to move to one of the countries they have offices in
[13:43]	:	Char Linden had a hr office hour not sure if she still does
[13:43]	:	Hm Shockwave, I wonder which one that was. Sometimes we've posted on external hire sites and I think we may've done Craigslist too, on occasion.
[13:43]	:	I don't thin it's been active in a year, Riken
[13:43]	:	btw... is there a page web where can find all movements possible to do in avatar in second life?
[13:43]	:	Torley thanks for fixing the SEC bug on the blog!
[13:43]	:	to move
[13:43]	:	waelya, as in navigation? Or animations?
[13:43]	:	Torley @ yah i know the craig list, Merov talk of this to mee ㋡
[13:43]	:	JoyD which one are you referring to? Perhaps that wasn't me.
[13:43]	:	one mo
[13:43]	:	nono.. hmm like basic.. like all movements.. tomove physic... like arrows...
[13:43]	:	im sure it was one the lab setupo itself, I'f not seen it listed anywhere recently
[13:43]	:	or W
[13:44]	:	ill put a ref in
[13:44]	:	all complete
[13:44]	:	great list from all service ㋡
[13:44]	:	Merov is behind http://www.handsfree3d.com/ :)
[13:44]	 	woners wht he cold paossibly do for a reume
[13:44]	:	Brighton is quite nice, except for all the drug addicts
[13:44]	:	i think what waelya is asking for is a guide to moving her avatar around inworld
[13:44]	:	there are still many bugs in SL i have seen sims go out of timing
[13:44]	:	yes!
[13:44]	:	thx Jon
[13:44]	:	: ) sorry
[13:44]	:	to the point it turns in to a ghost sim
[13:45]	 	shrugs "im nto the best office personell and i dont program. but if LL ever needed a security guard with a swat rating i'd join up lol
[13:45]	:	waelya, perhaps http://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=5471 :)
[13:45]	:	Torely @ i know tis is an interesting project ㋡
[13:45]	:	oh, i got currently 104 Linden bears btw :D Still looking for the rest of course!
[13:45]	:	thx!
[13:45]	:	Yann, do you both speak in French to each other?
[13:45]	:	people can see the sim on the map they just can not get in
[13:45]	:	Only 104? Noob
[13:45]	 	giggles
[13:45]	:	about bugs, bamber having his office hour soon :)
[13:45]	:	LOL Mari how many do you have now?
[13:45]	:	@Torley SEC-434 Linden Lab Issue ID: DEV-37621
[13:45]	:	je parle tre`es bien français avec les autres ㋡
[13:45]	:	roughly 300 nowadays. I need to inventory them again
[13:45]	:	ugh o.O
[13:45]	:	....
[13:45]	:	i only started a few months ago marianne ;)
[13:45]	:	Linden Lab Issue ID: DEV-37621
[13:45]	:	Has alot of Linden Bears. Giggles
[13:45]	:	quelque faute due a l'anglais écris ㋡
[13:45]	:	wow
[13:46]	:	Still sad about losing my Chadrick Linden Bear in an inventory loss
[13:46]	:	and i have 2 avi's to take care of ;)
[13:46]	:	Key: SEC-434
[13:46]	 	stil thinks his keyboard is numb, and understands the Client Teams are working on it: I recall Mari's started to record the Linden Keys
[13:46]	:	waelya, that article is in a folder in the KB that has a lot of related material
[13:46]	:	Ah JoyD, glad you noticed it. Kudos to Yoz for that, wasn't me.
[13:46]	:	it's called "Moving Around"
[13:46]	:	https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&folderID=237
[13:46]	:	I did what now, Arawn?
[13:46]	:	some fault due to my english writen ㋡
[13:46]	:	lol :D.
[13:46]	:	think i am one of the only ones here that has 195 community translator apples :p
[13:46]	:	Thanks Torley (was under my alt Oliver Szondi)
[13:46]	:	Even better, a whole category of movement!
[13:46]	:	thx
[13:46]	:	i found them all last suprise party :)
[13:46]	:	AHHH JoyD, well I know you!
[13:46]	:	;D
[13:47]	:	:D
[13:47]	:	Oli is that you
[13:47]	:	lol
[13:47]	:	I need to thank you for reporting that then, JoyD/Oliver.
[13:47]	:	Hahahaha.
[13:47]	:	hahah! :D Yup its me Ricken.
[13:47]	:	Torley @ i can learn you some word of french if you want ㋡
[13:47]	:	oliver szondi ? remember me something
[13:47]	:	ops lag chat...
[13:47]	:	I used to go to French immersion school! Some words are so beautiful in French.
[13:47]	:	So day when I have more than enough time and land, I should really photograph all th' bears. But I don't have a spare island an no time to really do it
[13:47]	:	waelya you might also enjoy our quick start guide: https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/community/tnt/blog/2009/04/19/quicktip-enjoy-our-second-life-quickstart-guide
[13:48]	:	i think maybe need a info web with all keyboards shorcuts
[13:48]	:	Torley@ yes i know this but the principal thing, you need to think in french is you want to talk in french ㋡
[13:48]	:	Mari, they'd make a tremendous coalesced object in some sort of display...
[13:48]	:	Oh yes. I think they might hit a prim limit very quick, though
[13:49]	:	will all info about using keyboard.. like to move avatar.. or to build.. all in same page
[13:49]	:	1 april 2009 i received the first bear, so indeed only a few months :)
[13:49]	:	I know they don't all fit on a homestead
[13:49]	:	I don't think you can rez that many prims of coalesced objects.
[13:49]	:	Torley@ i wait your first viedo in french with impatiance! Haha ㋡
[13:49]	:	That might also be alimit for he limts page
[13:49]	:	Yann, in the meantime, I need to be thankful for translation help! :D
[13:49]	:	like... "in mouselook you can move avatar using WASD"
[13:49]	:	think torley would ace it arawn ;)
[13:49]	:	like usually :p
[13:50]	:	I dont ever bother really to collect bears except from lindens that offer or lindens i really like. im lazy like that. more lindens have my bear then i have linden's bears
[13:50]	:	torley @ all times i love to meet Noelle and explaine my vision ㋡
[13:50]	:	( /me doesnt build bear)
[13:50]	:	brb
[13:50]	:	logging on as Oliver Szondi
[13:51]	:	i did, same idea as the Linden bear
[13:51]	:	oh kate your link is nice.. i never saw that guide!
[13:51]	:	You shuld see my bear, fewest prims for the size
[13:51]	:	thx
[13:51]	:	loll, asterion thank i need to know wherte the camping stuff on the picture of jack ㋡
[13:51]	:	where* loll
[13:51]	:	And remember, there are opportunities to get the currently-rare TNT bear by commenting on our blog, http://bit.ly/sltnt :)
[13:51]	:	http://www.hippasus.com/resources/secondlife/SL_Keyboard_Shortcuts.pdf
[13:51]	:	arawn, the one 100 meters hight / 1000 prims ? :)
[13:51]	:	cool daniel!
[13:51]	:	welcome! :)
[13:52]	:	Fine, now I've 8gotta* comment
[13:52]	:	waelya, you can subscribe to Doc Team's blog and receive updates for all the good tips we post.
[13:52]	:	hah going to check it : ) thx!
[13:52]	:	yes nice : )
[13:52]	:	does doc team twitter?
[13:52]	:	We sure do, Ricken!
[13:52]	:	ah Torley@ if you make a new piano album can you tell me the link of download in IM? ㋡
[13:52]	:	I got my own twitter as well, just for this avi
[13:52]	:	Torley Tweats, that's how ths plac gets crowded
[13:52]	:	Ricken, we each tweet individually.
[13:52]	:	My info is in my profile
[13:52]	:	it loks like the office hours twitter stopped on August 1
[13:53]	 	doesnt twitt
[13:53]	:	Hm, I should add us all on https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Doc_team
[13:53]	:	is a bit of a twit
[13:53]	:	okay I follow jeremy i think i will have to find torley and kate
[13:53]	 	has pinged you.
[13:53]	:	for those who want my twitter: http://twitter.com/YouriAshton
[13:53]	 	tweets from time to time
[13:53]	:	Heh! Yes, I'm not the most active Twitter user ever.
[13:53]	:	best to poke SignpostMarv Martin on the office hour twitter. he is operating the bot which tweets there
[13:53]	:	Check out my massive Linden Bears set > http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielvoyager/sets/72157612712965170/ :D
[13:53]	:	hmm twitter, i need to complete mine ㋡
[13:53]	:	Thanks Youri
[13:53]	:	np kate!
[13:53]	:	thanks Zai I will
[13:53]	:	Twitter is a daily exercise in rapid info-acquisition.
[13:53]	:	cool daniel!
[13:54]	:	I have about 5 clubs i want to go to thanks to jeremy
[13:54]	 	has pinged you.
[13:54]	:	welcome :-)
[13:54]	:	:-O
[13:54]	:	Loves linden bears lol
[13:54]	:	think its time for me to add a sub website for SL :p
[13:54]	:	Daniel@ me tooo ㋡
[13:54]	:	What would be its purpose and function, Youri? :)
[13:54]	:	I kinda like em too
[13:54]	 	grins
[13:54]	:	I have a friend who runs a linden bear museum
[13:54]	:	torley the point is there is dozen of social networking like that. so u need to spend half of a day to add some fiew info about your day :)
[13:54]	:	wait moment i up and i'm back just change my avatar ㋡
[13:54]	:	hah
[13:55]	:	Hey all!
[13:55]	:	Hey torley
[13:55]	:	:D
[13:55]	:	hi Oliver
[13:55]	:	oliver :)
[13:55]	 	follwed Twitter, but thinks it sounds like a potentially rich source for Informtion Overload: Has Torley looked at http://lyre-of-ur.com ? His Musician side might be interested
[13:55]	:	Hey Oliver, WB!
[13:55]	:	wb oli
[13:55]	:	sorry about logging on as joy might be it easier if i log on as myself.
[13:55]	:	That's weird, I wasn't following Jeremy! Just added. :D
[13:55]	 	has pinged you.
[13:55]	:	i dont kno yet torley, most likely linked to my twitter for first, alo adding pictures of my latest build, think ill add a blog as well
[13:55]	:	not sure what further, just thought about it actually :)
[13:55]	:	i hated the downtime twitter had....
[13:55]	:	just madness..
[13:55]	:	hey all im ducking out. not feeling so good.
[13:55]	:	ahhh, better this little robot ㋡
[13:55]	:	araw, yes, with twitter we can know how many cereal u ate the last breakfast :)
[13:56]	 	waves and poofs
[13:56]	:	Be sure to follow Jeremy. He will be tweeting throughout the SLCC conference.
[13:56]	 	has pinged you.
[13:56]	:	Sounds like what hapened to the PhT Pyrate
[13:56]	:	Tweet or bust!
[13:56]	:	i just brainstorm on the role :p
[13:56]	:	Youri, it's possible the My Dashboard section will allow for some of that. We're going to add more customization.
[13:56]	:	Hmn... I should tweet some of it too
[13:56]	:	sure! no problem torley!
[13:56]	:	Torley can we get themes for the back of the Dashboard
[13:57]	:	i should install twiter...
[13:57]	:	i want to make my dashboard my own :)
[13:57]	:	waelya dont
[13:57]	:	I was thinking of adding topics like that anyways, so sure would be a good addition to have that as well!
[13:57]	:	Oliver, not planned at this time; it's likely going to be more like Facebook than MySpace in terms of colorization and theming. But, that is tentative. We'll see. If you know Greasemonkey you can also apply page changes locally.
[13:57]	:	Check out > http://www.netvibes.com/danielvoyager #SL_Tweets
[13:58]	:	kate@ i rassure you i'm not a little camper bot ㋡ LOL
[13:58]	:	there needs to be a wiki page on tweeting lindens
[13:58]	:	yikes noy myspace
[13:58]	:	awwwwe.
[13:58]	:	what about colours torley?
[13:58]	:	:D
[13:58]	:	yann, nah, just a talkative one :)
[13:58]	:	Oliver, someone made a Torley mod of the new blogs, it cracked me up so much.
[13:58]	:	Think ill start work on the website tomorrow, think ill keep it plain and simple. It needs to be easy to navigate and of course it could help to have great things added to the website!
[13:58]	:	id love a pink and green dashboard.
[13:58]	:	LOL!
[13:58]	:	generally you find one tweeting Linden then ransack their friends
[13:58]	:	myspace has some crazy man that make you his friend
[13:59]	:	loll Asterion ㋡
[13:59]	:	Infinity's on Twitter? I soooo did not know that, thanks Daniel. You've a gift for aggregation!
[13:59]	:	lol! and poppy is too torley.
[13:59]	:	she has great geek tweets ^^
[13:59]	:	and he is in a white T shirt
[13:59]	:	i dont know any Linden's on twitter yet :p
[13:59]	:	Np, Torley! :)
[13:59]	:	torley tss tss tss infinity is on the AWG, and u though she didnt got twitter ? rah
[13:59]	:	didnt actually go look for any :)
[13:59]	:	poppy was discussing how gmail was driving her mad....sadlty it seems ads kept running online
[13:59]	:	i follow working world and learning world on twitter
[13:59]	:	if one likes to add me, im sure they'll do it :)
[13:59]	:	folks, that about does it for our hour -- i'm headed out to literally lock myself in a room and get some serious planning done!
[13:59]	:	Hey Trinity
[13:59]	:	i follow torley facebook.... that is why i find this team hours
[13:59]	:	i was thinking he may look like M Linden
[14:00]	:	everybody be well
[14:00]	:	Me @ Twitter - marimccann
[14:00]	:	thanks agian for this meeting Linden's!
[14:00]	:	phillip is on twitter but he rarely tweets
[14:00]	:	http://www.netvibes.com/danielvoyager #SL_Videos - loads of video tutorials and handy tips :D
[14:00]	:	Have fun, everybuggy!
[14:00]	:	Me @ Oliver Szondi
[14:00]	:	hope to see you next week
[14:00]	:	ops
[14:00]	:	Bye Bye!!
[14:00]	:	bye Marianne!
[14:00]	:	me @ OliverSzondi XD
[14:00]	 	waves =)
[14:00]	:	Lindens what Lindens ?
[14:00]	:	bye marianne
[14:00]	:	Some nice Snowglobe logo designs, from Philip's tweets: http://99designs.com/contests/26519
[14:00]	:	Torly: ill keep you posted on the website once its operational
 
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