Doc Team/2010-01-06

== Transcript ==
[13:02]	:	Torley Linden: What's new and exciting and new but not so exciting but you still wanna share?
[13:02]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Expecting the Black Death?
[13:02]	:	Torley Linden: Mojito, thanks for the tip re: Vex. I contacted him.
[13:02]	:	Torley Linden: We be chattin'.
[13:02]	:	Daniel Voyager: happy new year 2010 Torley :)
[13:02]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Ah, good
[13:02]	:	Torley Linden: Haha, I'm Plague Doc turned Pro Skater!
[13:02]	:	Torley Linden: Happy New Year Daniel and everyone! We are in the age of twentyten, ah yes...
[13:02]	:	Daniel Voyager: last doc team office was last decade hehe lol
[13:03]	:	Daniel Voyager: hour*
[13:03]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Has it been that long?
[13:03]	:	Dude Karfield: hi there
[13:03]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Seems like just last week
[13:03]	:	Daniel Voyager: 30th was last week
[13:03]	:	Arawn Spitteler: I think this is properly decenial year. 1-10, rather than 0-9
[13:03]	:	Torley Linden: Time travel is known to cause disorientations and whatnots.
[13:03]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Yes, really it is next year. We went through all that back in 2000
[13:03]	:	Gooden Uggla: hiya jeremy
[13:03]	 	has pinged you.
[13:03]	:	Hello!
[13:04]	:	Arawn Spitteler: There was a lot of Confusion, at the turn of the millenium. NYC was officially Confused
[13:04]	:	Torley Linden: I just posted https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/community/tnt/blog/2010/01/06/fun-awesomize-your-profile-with-unicode-and-ascii-art in response to various questions about "How do I make my profile look awesomer?"
[13:04]	:	Gooden Uggla: lol time travel makes ya gain weight!
[13:04]	:	Gooden Uggla: Gooden Uggla ducks
[13:04]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Poeple get overly enthralled with traiing zeros
[13:04]	:	Daniel Voyager: Loves his 11th doctor av from dr who. :D time travel into 2010
[13:04]	:	Zamantha Carter: Awesome AV Daniel :D
[13:04]	:	Mojito Sorbet: You are encouraging ASCII art?? Oh no!
[13:05]	:	Torley Linden: I haven't seen any recent Dr. Who but it's amazing they've kept the continuity going without a total reboot.
[13:05]	:	Torley Linden: That seems pretty accurate, Daniel.
[13:05]	:	Arawn Spitteler: A survey, we should use in world, is rezzies who've studied Latin, Esperanto, Na'Vi and Klingon
[13:05]	:	Daniel Voyager: The last epsiodes are great Torley. :)
[13:05]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Na'Vi?
[13:05]	:	Jeremy Linden fishes his old-school sonic screwdriver out of storage.
[13:06]	:	Daniel Voyager: haha
[13:06]	:	Zamantha Carter: I almost cried when Tennant left :(
[13:06]	:	Mojito Sorbet: I remember Jon Pertwee
[13:06]	:	vent Rust: hi
[13:06]	:	Torley Linden: That's handy, Gooden! I haven't seen this one before.
[13:06]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Arawn Spitteler still can't imagine Dr. Who without Jon Pertwee: Avatar is about a Marine Veteran who joins the Na'Vi
[13:07]	:	Torley Linden: Where is this being distributed inworld, Gooden? You compiled it yourself?
[13:07]	:	Mojito Sorbet: And the aliens back then were guys with rugs thrown over them
[13:07]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: sorry if just landed on anyone;s head
[13:07]	:	Gooden Uggla: i compiled that for giggles
[13:07]	:	Torley Linden: Oh cool! If you distribute it inworld from a kiosk or Xstreet, let me know Gooden so I can link to it on the web, too.
[13:07]	:	Gooden Uggla: avatar is pocahontas lol
[13:08]	:	Torley Linden: Haha I saw that Pocahontas comparison, where someone crossed out words on an essay.
[13:08]	:	Zamantha Carter: I'll take an alien with great plot and a rug thrown on him over a bad storyline and amazing alien anyday
[13:08]	:	Gooden Uggla: no, you may have unlimited rights to it, it's a compilation not original art
[13:08]	:	Arawn Spitteler: First, tell a story
[13:09]	:	Torley Linden: Thanks Gooden! =)
[13:09]	:	Opensource Obscure: hello everybody!
[13:09]	:	Zamantha Carter: Hi Open
[13:09]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: not as many people here tonight?
[13:09]	:	vent Rust: hi
[13:09]	:	Torley Linden: Heya Opensource! Good to see ya!
[13:09]	:	Torley Linden: Adamburp, maybe they're still holiday-ing?
[13:09]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Hellopensource
[13:10]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: very possible torley :)
[13:10]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Maybe they thought the Lindens forgot about this hour?
[13:10]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: toely, may i make a suggestion re your video tuts?
[13:10]	:	Opensource Obscure: i'm happy to be here. I usually give lesson at this time and that's why you never see me here
[13:11]	:	Torley Linden: Ahh! What've you been teaching?
[13:11]	:	Torley Linden: Of course, Adamburp!
[13:11]	:	Opensource Obscure: i teach SL! : ) from basic to advanced use of the viewer
[13:11]	:	Opensource Obscure: how to find nice things inworld...
[13:11]	:	Mojito Sorbet: How many credits? :)
[13:11]	:	Opensource Obscure: where to find documentation and such.
[13:11]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: I was browsing the wiki 2 days ago, and very briefly saw somewhere where you mentioned the debug menu, a video tutorial on that might coem in handy?
[13:11]	:	Opensource Obscure: did the meeting already start? are we following an agenda?
[13:12]	:	Mojito Sorbet: A wiki page describing all the setting would be nice too
[13:12]	:	Arawn Spitteler: How to Search, for Search. "If we could find the Index File, we could look it up in the Index File."
[13:12]	:	Opensource Obscure: debug settings. mojito? there's one ... and a beta one too
[13:13]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Oh, I didnt know that.
[13:13]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Do we yet have a page, where we can look up what a Cheesy Bacon is?
[13:13]	:	Opensource Obscure: this is the 'beta' one ; ) http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Opensource_Obscure/Debug_Settings-1.23.0.116468
[13:13]	:	Gooden Uggla: there's a few wiki pages, aren't there?
[13:13]	:	Opensource Obscure: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Debug_Settings here's the right one
[13:13]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: I leanred more by watching underpants's videos than reading - it;s easier to see the menu beign demonstrated than just reading up on it, imo
[13:13]	:	Opensource Obscure: in the first one, i added some settings that appeared in alpha code last year
[13:14]	:	Opensource Obscure: mostly stuff related to shadows code
[13:14]	:	Zamantha Carter: Underpants videos? I'm intruiged ;)
[13:14]	:	Mojito Sorbet: cool. Bookmarked
[13:14]	:	Opensource Obscure: you can create some weird visual effects by tweaking them
[13:14]	:	Opensource Obscure: look for "Render-..." ones
[13:14]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: a joke from the last time i was here
[13:15]	:	Zamantha Carter: Zamantha Carter giggles
[13:15]	:	Torley Linden: Oh good to know Adamburp, there are some things which it helps to show Second Life itself. In action. Just as-is.
[13:15]	:	Zamantha Carter: ah
[13:15]	:	Gooden Uggla: just google "agent provocatuer"
[13:15]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: when torley commented on his name being mis-spelt as "trolley" - but i pointed out in my rl region, "trolley" is a slang word for underpants
[13:15]	:	Torley Linden: I did have a video on the Advanced menu, as well as several covering specific (more popular) features.
[13:15]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: do you still hae a link to it?
[13:15]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: have**
[13:15]	:	Torley Linden: E.g., http://vimeo.com/torley/videos/search:advanced/sort:newest
[13:15]	:	Torley Linden: :)
[13:16]	:	Torley Linden: On the Wiki themselves, those are embedded on the specific topic pages. So for example,
[13:16]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: thanks torley
[13:16]	:	Torley Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Advanced_menu
[13:17]	:	Opensource Obscure: torley, most of your video will be obsolete with new viewer a new user interface, right? will you remake them? will you outsource the job? ; )
[13:17]	:	Opensource Obscure: awesome mask, btw. venetian doctors wore them i think. 'the black plague'..
[13:17]	:	Mojito Sorbet: The whole Viewer 2.0 thing is a Job COntinuation plot by Torley
[13:17]	:	Arawn Spitteler: We've a Trolley Kidd, and a Troley Magic, but no Trolley Wong or Trolley Linden
[13:18]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: it;s an older gag arawn
[13:18]	:	Torley Linden: Opensource, going to do all new ones.
[13:18]	:	Opensource Obscure: (they put smelly stuff inside the nose and they thought it helped not to get sick)
[13:18]	:	Arawn Spitteler: We've even a Trolley Adamczyk
[13:18]	:	Torley Linden: I'll likely be showcasing any videos Residents make too... love seeing those.
[13:18]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Flowers, I read
[13:19]	:	Opensource Obscure: I'd like to help with adding localized subtitles
[13:19]	:	Opensource Obscure: translated subtitles i mean
[13:20]	:	Opensource Obscure: would it be possible? anyone here experienced with that?
[13:20]	:	Torley Linden: Ooh! Glad to hear it! Have you seen any tools to make that really easy?
[13:20]	:	Torley Linden: I know YouTube has added captions but YouTube overall embedded-ness is inelegant compared to Vimeo; I've asked Vimeo for such a feature too.
[13:21]	:	Opensource Obscure: hmm
[13:21]	:	Torley Linden: Haha Bronson!
[13:21]	:	Torley Linden: Boxhead?
[13:21]	:	Opensource Obscure: ..timely..
[13:21]	:	Mojito Sorbet: You could always do multiple versions with somebody dubbing your voice
[13:21]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:21]	:	Opensource Obscure: lol
[13:21]	:	Bronson Blackadder: I couldnt find a lampshade
[13:22]	:	Torley Linden: HOLY CRAP I DIDN'T EXPECT IT TO BE THIS BIG.
[13:22]	:	Torley Linden: Mojito, I know that's been the case with some French transitions.
[13:22]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Pipe organ?
[13:22]	:	Torley Linden: I'M SORRY FOR STEPPING ON... GOOD GOSH...
[13:22]	:	Opensource Obscure: hhhhaahah
[13:22]	:	Torley Linden: It's like a pipe organ Transformer thing! Badass! By Madcow Cosmos.
[13:22]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:22]	:	Mojito Sorbet: oo, scary
[13:22]	:	Opensource Obscure: ah, but that's the madcow awesomeness!
[13:22]	:	Opensource Obscure: whoa
[13:23]	:	Whoa.
[13:23]	:	Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:23]	:	Torley, you should enter some kind of giant robot fighting league.
[13:23]	:	Bronson Blackadder: you all crack me up
[13:23]	:	Torley Linden: Yeah, rock 'em sock 'em!
[13:23]	:	You could be... THE ORGAN GRINDER.
[13:23]	:	Torley Linden: HAHAHAHAHAAH
[13:23]	:	Torley Linden: OH THAT'S PUNNY
[13:23]	:	Mojito Sorbet: It would make the MechWarrior people fall off their chairs laughing, and you would win the battyle
[13:24]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Mechwarriors have a sense of Humor?
[13:24]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Well, maybe not...
[13:24]	:	Jeremy Linden used to play MechWarrior 2 and still has surviving remnants of humor...
[13:24]	:	Daniel Voyager: wow, thats impressive Torley.
[13:25]	:	Opensource Obscure: brb
[13:25]	:	Mojito Sorbet: I know some people in SL who are into that sort of thing. Whole sims devoted to it
[13:25]	:	Torley Linden: Credz to Madcow, I saw it in the Joy of Music machinima he did with Chantal Harvey and I was all like "MUST HAVE."
[13:25]	:	Torley Linden: Avatar show and tell will always be one of my faves.
[13:26]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: toely, have you got a unique avatar?
[13:26]	:	Mojito Sorbet: It is sort of a SteamPunk take on Mech
[13:26]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: as in ABSOLUTELY unique?
[13:26]	:	Mojito Sorbet: Drat, RL calls
[13:27]	:	Gooden Uggla: wearing anything by madcow is a adventure in size and shape, i love his stuff
[13:27]	:	Torley Linden: No, you could get it too if you wanted Adamburp! When I customize it in watermelon it shall be unique. Hehe.
[13:27]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: i love my morris dancer one
[13:27]	:	Torley Linden: That sounds like a testimonial if I ever heard one, Gooden.
[13:27]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Arawn Spitteler wonders if the Collossas of MadCow fits in a show box
[13:27]	:	Torley Linden: I saw this and was reminded of the Transformers from the movie...
[13:28]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: i was 10 when the first movei came out back in '86
[13:28]	:	Torley Linden: I meant the live-action movie but I loved the animated one. It dealt with some very grown-up themes!
[13:28]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: i know :)
[13:28]	:	Torley Linden: The music by Vince DiCola was so awesome.
[13:29]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Ever see Glass Fleet?
[13:29]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: sorry, berb, my inventory's not loaded
[13:29]	:	Gooden Uggla: i look at that and wonder if caledon asylum had an escape...
[13:29]	:	Gooden Uggla: :)
[13:29]	:	Opensource Obscure: DOCUMENTATION question! I'm from Italy, and I'd like to contribute to Answers in a localized environment .. like https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/answers/preguntas_espa ñol for Spain. will this happen?
[13:30]	:	Opensource Obscure: ..when?... : )
[13:30]	:	Torley Linden: That's a lovely question, Opensource. That seems one better for Lexie or Jeska as they run Answers.
[13:30]	:	Opensource Obscure: ah, right. ok
[13:31]	:	Torley Linden: But it's definitely related.
[13:34]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: Torley, I have a good question for you, if i may?
[13:34]	:	Torley Linden: Please ask!
[13:34]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: Documentation island seems to be off limits to us?
[13:34]	:	Torley Linden: Hola Kate!
[13:35]	:	Kate Linden: Hi :)
[13:35]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Welcome, Kate
[13:35]	:	Torley Linden: Ahhhh that's because it's still... how shall we say, Team... IN THE WORKS? :D
[13:35]	:	Zamantha Carter: Hi Kate
[13:35]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Building should always be a community activity, 'cause it's never really finished
[13:35]	:	Agreed :-)
[13:35]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: fair enough then toely, i jwas curious
[13:35]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: an hi kate!
[13:36]	:	Kate Linden: Hello :) Forgive me for being late.
[13:36]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: not at all, if i may have your bear?
[13:36]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Where would Second Life be, today, if RElease waited on a functioning product?
[13:36]	:	Kate Linden: Sure
[13:37]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: many thanks kate :)
[13:38]	:	Kate Linden: What's the current topic?
[13:38]	:	Arawn Spitteler: I'm not sure we started, yet
[13:38]	:	Gooden Uggla: arawn it would be lively *plays taps*
[13:39]	:	Arawn Spitteler: The Late Lively?
[13:39]	:	Gooden Uggla: yup
[13:39]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: actually, i have a pretty good question, which you amy find hard to answer
[13:39]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: may*
[13:40]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Arawn Spitteler sees a sparkle of Hope, in Adamburp's eye, soon to be dashed
[13:40]	:	Kate Linden: I hope everyone has had a nice start into 2010. I enjoyed seeing many Residents at the Ball dropping in Voss. Sure Adamburp, what's your question?
[13:40]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: when I raise a support ticket, there is no medium for saying "thank you" ie no category to say "thank you"
[13:41]	:	Kate Linden: Nice of you to think to send thanks :) You can add a comment to your ticket and that will get to the person who helped you.
[13:41]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Why does DOS never say "Excelllent Command or File Name?"
[13:41]	:	Opensource Obscure: xD
[13:41]	:	Too many "l"s.
[13:41]	:	Derek Galaxy: woah, nive avi Torley!
[13:41]	:	Derek Galaxy: *nice
[13:42]	 	Translator: Derek's Google Translator: Too many HTTP requests too fast.
[13:42]	:	Man, I miss DOS.
[13:42]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: Kate, i work in a very similar environment to your resi team, and i really appreciate it when you get a "thank you", but it;s good to know the comments DO get read.
[13:42]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: as in the customer service area***
[13:43]	:	Torley Linden: Thanks Derek! Courtesy of Madcow Cosmos. :)
[13:44]	:	Opensource Obscure: oh. something you may be interested in .. even if the issue has recently been assigned to Blue: feature request for << Blog comments need optional "Ignore this user" feature >> https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-1074
[13:45]	:	Gooden Uggla: adamburp when they finish the ticket, you can go back and hit the "close button" and comment there, they offer one laast text window
[13:45]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: i have seen that, but i was not sure if those comments would get passed on
[13:45]	:	Gooden Uggla: good point
[13:46]	:	Torley Linden: I remember you mentioning that before Opensource, yes, just like we can mute inworld, it'd be useful!
[13:47]	:	Opensource Obscure: yeah, same thing than Mute. that doesn't prevent me to read different voices and opinions - that are useful.
[13:47]	:	Gooden Uggla: opensource i think that's a fine idea :)
[13:47]	:	Torley Linden: Most of the blog suggestions depend on what Clearspace (the software that powers it) can do so on occasion I've been communicating with Jive (makers of Clearspace) along with Blue and some others to ask if they can be implemented.
[13:47]	:	Opensource Obscure: it's another kind of filter against information overload.
[13:47]	:	Opensource Obscure: sure. great
[13:48]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Arawn Spitteler wonders which PN is to be muted
[13:50]	:	Zamantha Carter: Kate, you're in Boston?
[13:51]	:	Kate Linden: Zamantha: I'm not in Boston but I do love chowdah lol
[13:51]	:	Zamantha Carter: Oh, so do I :D
[13:51]	:	Zamantha Carter: I used to work there. Just was curius
[13:51]	:	Kate Linden: It's a great city :)
[13:52]	:	Arawn Spitteler: I recall Pathfinder's office is in Cambridge
[13:52]	:	Zamantha Carter: It is. SF is lovely as well :D
[13:52]	:	Kate Linden: yes :)
[13:52]	:	Zamantha Carter: Cambridge, I lived there. By MIT
[13:52]	:	Zamantha Carter: Cool :D
[13:53]	:	Kate Linden: All of our office locations are listed on lindenlab.com
[13:53]	:	Kate Linden: http://lindenlab.com
[13:53]	:	Yep, there's a Linden Lab office in Cambridge. I go there often :-)
[13:53]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: hmmmm
[13:53]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: brighton, uk, is the nearest one to me
[13:54]	:	Derek Galaxy: any offices in virginia?
[13:54]	:	Arawn Spitteler: There might be something for Scott's benefit
[13:54]	:	Gooden Uggla: Gooden Uggla gives adamburp a suction cup dart gun and a picture of babbage and wishes him godspeed
[13:54]	:	Kate Linden: Yes, Reston VA
[13:55]	:	Zamantha Carter: Battery St? Small world. I had an office at 275 Battery
[13:55]	:	Gooden Uggla: derek the neweest colo is in DC
[13:55]	:	Opensource Obscure: amsterdam offices are not officially open yet, right?
[13:56]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: i LOVE amsterdam
[13:56]	:	Arawn Spitteler: DC isn't in Virginia. I think it might be in Maryland
[13:56]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: went on a stag weekend there
[13:56]	:	Opensource Obscure: amsterdam will also hold the european servers colocation
[13:56]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: with my dutch friends
[13:56]	:	Opensource Obscure: hold? host? sorry for my Engrish
[13:56]	:	Gooden Uggla: arawn?
[13:56]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Why would a Colo be in an overpriced city like DC?
[13:57]	:	Gooden Uggla: DC is on the border of maryland and virginia
[13:57]	:	Gooden Uggla: it's where the bandwidth is
[13:58]	:	Bronson Blackadder: uh oh
[13:58]	:	Bronson Blackadder: Im gonna get it now
[13:58]	:	Bronson Blackadder: alexa just accepted my notecard
[13:59]	:	Arawn Spitteler: Wha'd you do?
[13:59]	:	Bronson Blackadder: being pessimistic
[13:59]	:	Gooden Uggla: alexa will be at the triage, there was a snow leopard issue she has an interet in
[13:59]	:	Bronson Blackadder: hope it had enough humor in it to take the edge off though
[13:59]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: jeremy, torley, may i have your bears pleae? if you have them that is pleae?
[13:59]	 	has pinged you.
[14:00]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: please***
[14:00]	:	Torley Linden: Certainly Adamburp!
[14:00]	:	Gooden Uggla: have a good afternoon ya'll, it's been fun
[14:00]	:	Torley Linden: Enjoy!
[14:00]	:	Derek Galaxy: ㋡
[14:00]	:	Derek Galaxy: i wouldn mind a copy either
[14:00]	:	Derek Galaxy: *wouldnt
[14:00]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: many thanks :)
[14:00]	:	Sure!
[14:00]	:	Torley Linden: Hee hee I just blogged about ㋡ and other Unicode art. ;)
[14:00]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: i've only recently started to collect them
[14:01]	:	Kate Linden: Adamburp, there is also a Knowledge Bear on this pier.
[14:01]	:	Kate Linden: Help yourself to a copy.
[14:01]	:	Derek Galaxy: i made a justure just for ":)" i love unicode too
[14:01]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: i ahve that oen kate :)
[14:01]	:	Torley Linden: Excellent!
[14:01]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: but ususally, whenever i see one of you guys on my radr, i drop a polite notecard
[14:01]	:	Torley Linden: It's been fun, everyone, I've got to go to my next meeting. Take care and thanks for being at Doc Team Office Hours!
[14:01]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: asking for their bear
[14:01]	:	Derek Galaxy: thanks Jeremy
[14:01]	 	has pinged you.
[14:01]	:	Adamburp Adamczyk: torley? 1 mo?
[14:01]	:	Opensource Obscure: bye everybody
[14:02]	:	Opensource Obscure: ciao !
[14:02]	:	Derek Galaxy: bye Torley!
[14:02]	:	Torley Linden: Ciao! *smiles and waves*
 
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