Community Translation User Group/12-May-2011

==Attendees List==
*Catwise Yoshikawa (catwise.yoshikawa)
*Identity Euler (identity.euler)
*Irene Muni (irene.muni)
*Jewell Laryukov (jewell.laryukov)
*Karin Redgrave (karin.redgrave)
*Noelle Linden (noelle.linden)
*Rand Linden (rand.linden)
*Torben Trautman (torben.trautman)
*Youri Ashton (youri.ashton)
== Summary ==
* Update from Lithium about the HTML problem: solution soon.
* New KB articles "ready for translation": soon.
* About the problem with TOC in Kb articles: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Generating_a_Lithium_TOC
* We need to know when a KB article is in edit phase or is finish: use JIRA in a future.
* About translation workflow: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Enhancing_Translation_Workflow
* About wiki articles with 0 content and/or nonsense content.
* About not translated sections of the Viewer Basic Mode: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25220 and https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25217
* About very olds JIRAs about the Spanish translation: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25534
* Sometimes it's difficult adjust the xml´s
* Next meeting Eli Linden will answer questions about Viewer translation.
* For content in English, we in Localization usually cannot grab everything there is to translate (last minute updates etc.) before a release. So we know that we do release international versions with some English.
* Working in JIR about Spanish web profiles: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-3764
* Noelle is looking at the deferred from October 2010 JIRA requesting translate the Marketplace into Spanish: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-2358
* It'¡s important finish the articles about Marketplace. They need urgent translation.
* Labels translation review: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Knowledge_Base_Label_Translations
* Possible meeting with French volunteers.
* Don't forgive many Spanish articles (partially) translated: those articles in spanglish should be not visible for everyone. [Not answered, end of the meeting]
==Transcript for Thursday May 12, 2011==
[12:01]	Rand Linden 	Hi
[12:01]	Irene Muni 	hi Rand! :)
[12:01]	Torben Trautman 	hi Rand
[12:01]	Youri Ashton 	noelle told me today
[12:01]	Irene Muni 	We are speaking bad thinks about Lindens XD
[12:01]	Rand Linden 	Noelle said she's going to be 15 mins late
[12:01]	Irene Muni 	things*
[12:02]	Torben Trautman 	nah, we´re just making fun
[12:02]	Rand Linden 	doh!
[12:02]	Rand Linden 	:-)
[12:02]	Irene Muni 	I love this benchs, it is impossible to sit LOL
[12:02]	Catwise Yoshikawa	heheh that just happened to me :p
[12:02]	Rand Linden 	yeah, i seem to always end up sitting backward
[12:02]	Identity Euler 	you need to stand et the front of the part
[12:02]	Identity Euler 	on which you are going to sit
[12:03]	Irene Muni 	Torben are free your knees? LOL
[12:03]	Torben Trautman 	sure, hop on
[12:03]	Catwise Yoshikawa	that side is broke :p
[12:03]	Irene Muni 	well, do you like my back? LOL
[12:04]	Torben Trautman 	so Rand, should we start asking you embarassing questions?
[12:04]	Irene Muni 	Rand, can we ask you about the KB?
[12:04]	Irene Muni 	LOL Torben
[12:04]	Torben Trautman 	hehe
[12:04]	Rand Linden 	um...sure
[12:04]	Irene Muni 	Spanish team needs more "Ready for translation" articles of the KB.
[12:04]	Rand Linden 	but i have a quick update first
[12:04]	Irene Muni 	ok, I wait
[12:04]	Rand Linden 	This is from Lithium: "This email is to notify you that case (#00015622: Basic HTML Parameters) has been updated with the following comment:
[12:04]	Irene Muni 	LOL
[12:04]	Rand Linden 	So... we are still waiting on the full fix, but it looks like they made some progres
[12:05]	Torben Trautman 	50 % *woot*
[12:05]	Youri Ashton 	what did you feed the asset server rand? it's been upset for days now ;)
[12:05]	Irene Muni 	no kudos for Lithium support.
[12:05]	Irene Muni 	(((Torben, do you publih the chat log)))))
[12:05]	Irene Muni 	publish*
[12:05]	Torben Trautman 	sure can o :)
[12:05]	Irene Muni 	Thanks :)
[12:06]	Rand Linden 	ok so i just asked Jeremy if he has any more articles that are ready for trans.
[12:06]	Irene Muni 	We need them :)
[12:06]	Rand Linden 	He should have some stuff thats ready
[12:07]	Torben Trautman 	Irene, how do you handle the broken table of content?
[12:07]	Torben Trautman 	do you translate anyway?
[12:07]	Catwise Yoshikawa	would be nice to know when a KB article is in edit phase or is finish...
[12:07]	Catwise Yoshikawa	finished
[12:07]	Youri Ashton 	noelle takes a long time to get here
[12:07]	Rand Linden 	Catwise: yes, i agree
[12:08]	Rand Linden 	Ideally, we could use Jira
[12:08]	Torben Trautman 	she still has 8 minutes to be delayed in time :)
[12:08]	Rand Linden 	but right now DOC project issues are not publicly visible
[12:08]	Rand Linden 	i think we can change that...
[12:08]	Catwise Yoshikawa	I'm interested in marketplace articles, but they are changing them each month ^^'
[12:08]	Rand Linden 	Yes, i know they are being actively revised this week
[12:08]	Irene Muni 	the marketplace articles are ver imprtar for translation
[12:08]	Rand Linden 	MAYBE done next week?
[12:08]	Torben Trautman 	o.O Rand, did you have some time to read my tl/dr article about the workflow?
[12:09]	Rand Linden 	Yes, Torben. I think your idea is good
[12:09]	Catwise Yoshikawa	so just would be nice to see a note or something when an article is going to be edited or not..
[12:09]	Torben Trautman 	:)
[12:09]	Rand Linden 	But we have to get the perms on DOC issues changed... .
[12:09]	Irene Muni 	Rand, Perhaps we can send you (or wirte in wiki) suggestions for "ready for translation"artticles. or not?
[12:09]	Rand Linden 	Irene: sure
[12:09]	Rand Linden 	for the time being that is OK
[12:10]	Irene Muni 	notecard or wiki?
[12:10]	Rand Linden 	Torben's suggestion is to have a Jira issue for each article...
[12:10]	Rand Linden 	and then we can track its status that way
[12:10]	Rand Linden 	In fact, we do have Jiras for each KB article already (for most anyway)
[12:10]	Rand Linden 	So, it would be easy to adapt that for L10N
[12:10]	Catwise Yoshikawa	also for reply in answer I'm lost cause they are changing thing from articles to other articles...is crazy
[12:10]	Torben Trautman 	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Enhancing_Translation_Workflow
[12:11]	Rand Linden 	Torben: great!
[12:11]	Rand Linden 	Noelle would def. be interestd in that
[12:11]	Rand Linden 	Also someone mentioned TOCs...
[12:11]	Irene Muni 	interesting... when I can read it complete :)
[12:11]	Rand Linden 	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Generating_a_Lithium_TOC
[12:12]	Rand Linden 	They are a big pain with Lithium, esp. when you start rearranging sections
[12:12]	Rand Linden 	SO, this is a little script that can make it a LITTLE easier
[12:12]	Irene Muni 	oh!!!!
[12:12]	Torben Trautman 	nice :)
[12:12]	Irene Muni 	bookmarked
[12:12]	Torben Trautman 	my question about toc was if the spanish team translates articles although the toc doesn´t work yet or if they are on hold
[12:13]	Torben Trautman 	(just out of curiosity)
[12:13]	Irene Muni 	We have not tried the TOC
[12:13]	Torben Trautman 	ah ok
[12:14]	Irene Muni 	In fact, the TOC of the spanish artcles are broken... as say the wiki page of translated articles LOL
[12:14]	Catwise Yoshikawa	I don't know what is TOC, so I have to read first :p
[12:14]	Torben Trautman 	Cat: it´s "table of content"
[12:14]	Catwise Yoshikawa	heheh ^^'
[12:14]	Irene Muni 	tabla de contebidos
[12:14]	Rand Linden 	Right, wiki automatically generates them
[12:14]	Rand Linden 	but Lithium doesnt
[12:14]	Irene Muni 	ups, sorry for the spanish :)
[12:14]	Torben Trautman 	<- loves wiki
[12:14]	Irene Muni 	me to Torben :)
[12:14]	Rand Linden 	So if you start moving sections around, then it gets all messedup and you have to edit HTML by hand
[12:14]	Catwise Yoshikawa	me not XD
[12:14]	Torben Trautman 	:)
[12:14]	Irene Muni 	And the Google search of the KB wiki
[12:15]	Rand Linden 	Noelle should be joining us in a minute
[12:15]	Rand Linden 	just got a Skype IM from her
[12:15]	Rand Linden 	:-)
[12:15]	Irene Muni 	No problem, Rand, we can shhot you XD
[12:15]	Youri Ashton 	hey noelle
[12:15]	Irene Muni 	shoot*
[12:15]	Youri Ashton 	speaking of the devil :p
[12:15]	Torben Trautman 	Rand, I noticed some wiki articles with 0 content and/or nonsense content
[12:15]	Rand Linden 	lol
[12:15]	Noelle Linden 	hi all
[12:15]	Irene Muni 	LOLhi noelle
[12:15]	Rand Linden 	Torben - please send me links to those articles
[12:15]	Catwise Yoshikawa	and be carefull cause Youri looks ready :p
[12:15]	Torben Trautman 	should we use template:delete while you do your spring cleaning?
[12:15]	Torben Trautman 	hi Noelle
[12:15]	Rand Linden 	Sure
[12:15]	Youri Ashton 	oh looking pretty today noelle!
[12:15]	Irene Muni 	please, pay 10L$ to group by the delay Noelle
[12:15]	Catwise Yoshikawa	hi noelle
[12:15]	Torben Trautman 	okies
[12:16]	Noelle Linden 	ok I will :-)
[12:16]	Irene Muni 	:)
[12:16]	Torben Trautman 	Rand kept us entertained while we were waiting Noelle
[12:16]	Rand Linden 	heh
[12:16]	Torben Trautman 	You just missed him jumping through the burning tire ;)
[12:16]	Irene Muni 	can we make more questions or is there agenda?
[12:16]	Noelle Linden 	:)
[12:17]	Noelle Linden 	please send your questions
[12:17]	Irene Muni 	To date there have been five or six versions of the Viewer with Basic mode, but none of those versions have translated something as essential as the instructions (https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25220). It is not logical, it's a no sense if LL want retain new users.
[12:17]	Rand Linden 	So Jeremy sez that we are not QUITE ready to hand off the articles we've been working on ...
[12:17]	Youri Ashton 	you should get jeremy a tp, talks easier :)
[12:17]	Identity Euler 	hi Noelle
[12:18]	Rand Linden 	Why isnt that issue assigned to someone?
[12:18]	Irene Muni 	who knows
[12:18]	Rand Linden 	VWR-25220
[12:18]	Rand Linden 	It will have a better chance of getting fixed if its assigned... Woudl that be Eli, Noelle?
[12:19]	Irene Muni 	the majority og the spanish JIRASare unassigned: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25534
[12:19]	Rand Linden 	Or someone in Viewer eng or UX perhaps
[12:19]	Rand Linden 	hm
[12:19]	Irene Muni 	from the BETA viewer 2 LOL
[12:19]	Torben Trautman 	Eli said that new viewer strings come from translations agencies
[12:19]	Torben Trautman 	at least the ones for german
[12:19]	Noelle Linden 	this is correct Torben
[12:20]	Irene Muni 	not in Spanish AFAIK
[12:20]	Torben Trautman 	(which reminds me of the comment about their quality I recently made)
[12:20]	Noelle Linden 	what is the issue with Spanish?
[12:20]	Irene Muni 	see the "related to by" of this JIRA Noelle: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25534
[12:21]	Irene Muni 	The majority of those JIRA came from the Viewer 2 BETA!
[12:21]	Noelle Linden 	I see lots of issues with truncations
[12:21]	Rand Linden 	Noelle - you will be interested in reading this from Torben: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Enhancing_Translation_Workflow
[12:21]	Noelle Linden 	and some English
[12:21]	Noelle Linden 	ok
[12:22]	Irene Muni 	the mayority of that JIRAs can be fixed in only one day... as Torben knows :)
[12:22]	Irene Muni 	those* JIRAS
[12:22]	Torben Trautman 	maybe we can help Eli with some of them
[12:22]	Noelle Linden 	not the truncations
[12:23]	Torben Trautman 	Noelle: most truncations were pretty easy to fix when adjusting the xml´s
[12:23]	Noelle Linden 	not the English content either
[12:23]	Irene Muni 	well, we will wait, each new version fix 2 or 3 JIRAs, we can wait the 20th SLB :)
[12:23]	Noelle Linden 	as for fixing the xml
[12:23]	Noelle Linden 	I am no engineer, and I cannot speak for Eli
[12:24]	Noelle Linden 	but I believe it is the US source xml that needs to accomodate text expansion in various languages
[12:24]	Noelle Linden 	instead of us fixing each indicidual language
[12:24]	Noelle Linden 	*individual
[12:24]	Torben Trautman 	nods, we used to do local overrides but that didn´t do any *good* to the code :)
[12:24]	Noelle Linden 	no we cannot do that
[12:25]	Noelle Linden 	in does not solve the core issue anyway
[12:25]	Noelle Linden 	*it
[12:25]	Noelle Linden 	now, for meaning issues, that is translation errors, this is something else
[12:25]	Irene Muni 	problems with Lithium, problems wiht the UI... aaahhh, I love SL XD
[12:26]	Noelle Linden 	lol
[12:26]	Irene Muni 	:)
[12:26]	Torben Trautman 	it´s a work in progress :)
[12:26]	Irene Muni 	LOL
[12:26]	Rand Linden 	Well it keeps life 'interesting' :-)
[12:26]	Irene Muni 	SL8B
[12:26]	Noelle Linden 	for content in English, we in Localization usually cannot grab everything there is to translate (last minute updates etc.) before a release
[12:27]	Noelle Linden 	so we know that we do release international versions with some English
[12:27]	Noelle Linden 	it is an issue we have to live with
[12:27]	Torben Trautman 	the basic viewer was in beta for something around 24 hours, hard to localize it in that time frame :)
[12:27]	Noelle Linden 	there might also be some untranslatable contente (hard coded, coming from the server etc.)
[12:28]	Noelle Linden 	exactly Torben
[12:28]	Youri Ashton 	nothing is impossible noelle
[12:28]	Noelle Linden 	it is impossible to localize at the same speed
[12:28]	Irene Muni 	but we have now 5 or 6 versions of the Basic mode viewer
[12:29]	Noelle Linden 	Irene, I will ask Eli to come to the next meeting
[12:29]	Irene Muni 	https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25217
[12:29]	Noelle Linden 	it seems like there are lots of questions for him
[12:29]	Irene Muni 	yes :)
[12:29]	Noelle Linden 	I will tell him to read the notes and to come next week
[12:29]	Irene Muni 	we can write the answers in the agneda for Eli :)
[12:30]	Irene Muni 	agenda*
[12:30]	Catwise Yoshikawa	^^
[12:30]	Irene Muni 	the questions, sorry :)
[12:30]	Noelle Linden 	Irene, I do have a questions
[12:30]	Irene Muni 	esay, please
[12:30]	Noelle Linden 	you remember that jira you opened for WebProfiles
[12:30]	Noelle Linden 	about some translations issues
[12:30]	Irene Muni 	eummmm. not :(
[12:30]	Noelle Linden 	(I am looking for it now...)
[12:30]	Irene Muni 	oh, yes
[12:30]	Torben Trautman 	Eli said he doesn´t mind fixing xml´s and attaching them for implementation - so if he doesn´t mind we can fix truncations ourself while waiting for Lithium to work :)
[12:31]	Irene Muni 	great Noelle
[12:32]	Noelle Linden 	Torben, I cannot speak for Eli...
[12:32]	Noelle Linden 	ask him directly if you do not mind
[12:32]	Torben Trautman 	I just typed that for the transcript :)
[12:32]	Torben Trautman 	so we can ask him next week :)
[12:32]	Youri Ashton 	noelle, affraid you will ruin that pretty outfit? take a seat :p
[12:32]	Noelle Linden 	so Irene, I asked our translator to look at those and he should have finxed some of them at leasr
[12:32]	Noelle Linden 	*at least
[12:32]	Irene Muni 	https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-3764 ok Noelle :)
[12:33]	Noelle Linden 	I hope most of those are fixed
[12:33]	Noelle Linden 	thanks!
[12:33]	Irene Muni 	and Any news about the "deferred" from October 2010 JIRA JIRA requesting translate the Marketplace into Spanish?: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-2358
[12:33]	Irene Muni 	LOL
[12:33]	Noelle Linden 	I am looking into that
[12:33]	Irene Muni 	(last question abiout spanish, I opromise)
[12:33]	Noelle Linden 	we might get Marketplace into Spanish
[12:33]	Irene Muni 	ok :)
[12:33]	Noelle Linden 	I will keep you posted
[12:34]	Youri Ashton 	changing the language possibilities for the marketplace might be a good thing. it will for sure clearify a lot for many users
[12:34]	Irene Muni 	about spanish translations of the web and others: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-3819 (end)
[12:34]	Catwise Yoshikawa	I just wanted to know if they finish to edit marketplace articles
[12:34]	Catwise Yoshikawa	cause they change it lot of times, just tired of editing my work when I notice they did :p
[12:35]	Irene Muni 	catqwise is translatin into spanish the marketplace articles, she is a merchant
[12:35]	Rand Linden 	Catwise: we are actually reworking them right now
[12:35]	Rand Linden 	and should be finished in a week or so
[12:35]	Torben Trautman 	Rand/Noelle: would you mind sending a tp to Jewell Laryukov ?
[12:35]	Rand Linden 	There was a lot of duplication, and poor organization... so this will improve them a lot
[12:35]	Noelle Linden 	I will do that
[12:35]	Catwise Yoshikawa	but when I go to check something notice they change it again...that's why I said would be great to have something in KB articles that say when they are editing or when they finish :p
[12:36]	Catwise Yoshikawa	so still editing marketplace articles?
[12:36]	Rand Linden 	yes still editing...
[12:36]	Jewell Laryukov 	whoa force tp *woot*
[12:36]	Catwise Yoshikawa	ok, I'll wait then ^^
[12:36]	Noelle Linden 	:-)
[12:36]	Irene Muni 	youri please, use your gun against this change of the KB XD
[12:37]	Catwise Yoshikawa	could you tell us when is finished?
[12:37]	Rand Linden 	I hope we can soon adopt Torben's suggestions re using Jira
[12:37]	Rand Linden 	Yes, I will let you know, Catwise
[12:37]	Youri Ashton 	lol
[12:37]	Catwise Yoshikawa	thanx ^^
[12:37]	Rand Linden 	no problem... thank YOU
[12:37]	Irene Muni 	hi jewell :)
[12:38]	Jewell Laryukov 	ellow ?
[12:38]	Jewell Laryukov 	don´t mind me, I´m just an alt ?
[12:38]	Irene Muni 	:)
[12:38]	Youri Ashton 	lol
[12:38]	Noelle Linden 	hi Jewel
[12:39]	Irene Muni 	have your main account problems with the new system of pays? LOL
[12:39]	Catwise Yoshikawa	lol
[12:39]	Irene Muni 	I have been on hold 3 days LOL
[12:39]	Torben Trautman 	hahaha
[12:39]	Irene Muni 	4 years in SL with the same credit card and... your credit card is not valid LOL
[12:39]	Youri Ashton 	lots of problems with the servers lately, so i wouldnt be surprised
[12:39]	Torben Trautman 	no, I just wanted to look at the basic viewer and thought I could do that while we´re talking about it
[12:39]	Catwise Yoshikawa	hope they won't change my paypal ^^'
[12:40]	Irene Muni 	when SL launch a new feature... the adventure begins!! LOL
[12:40]	Catwise Yoshikawa	and night mares ^^'
[12:41]	Irene Muni 	LOL
[12:41]	Noelle Linden 	I was wondering if you talked about labels with Rand
[12:41]	Noelle Linden 	in the KB
[12:41]	Irene Muni 	not today
[12:41]	Torben Trautman 	hahaha, I just copied the url
[12:41]	Torben Trautman 	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Knowledge_Base_Label_Translations
[12:42]	Irene Muni 	why those new wiki pages cannot be announced in the private forum or similar?
[12:42]	Torben Trautman 	Rand sent out a mail
[12:42]	Torben Trautman 	or Noelle did
[12:42]	Irene Muni 	a mail?
[12:42]	Torben Trautman 	email
[12:42]	Rand Linden 	Putting them in the forum is a good idea, though
[12:42]	Irene Muni 	mail from the CT list?
[12:42]	Rand Linden 	I need to get an update from Lexie on the label translation question
[12:42]	Torben Trautman 	nods
[12:43]	Torben Trautman 	but it was during easter
[12:43]	Irene Muni 	well, i have no mail.... and I habe no SL in easter LOL
[12:43]	Noelle Linden 	Looks like all the comments are for German ;-)
[12:43]	Torben Trautman 	hehe, sorry about that
[12:43]	Noelle Linden 	well its good to get 'disconnected" Irene
[12:43]	Irene Muni 	:)
[12:43]	Noelle Linden 	from time to time :-)
[12:44]	Irene Muni 	it's the first time I have seen that wiki page :)
[12:44]	Rand Linden 	Well, Irene, I trust we will soon see some comments in the Spanish section ;-)
[12:44]	Irene Muni 	we
[12:44]	Irene Muni 	LOL
[12:44]	Torben Trautman 	hehe
[12:44]	Irene Muni 	sure
[12:45]	Irene Muni 	12 translators at work :)
[12:45]	Noelle Linden 	I have the same feeling as Rand :-)
[12:45]	Irene Muni 	http://community.secondlife.com/t5/General-Topics/Second-Life-CT-Project-group/m-p/868263
[12:46]	Irene Muni 	Catwise, worg for the spanish team :)
[12:46]	Noelle Linden 	we need to make sure that any label change that is made is also reflected in our Translation Memory for each language Rand
[12:46]	Irene Muni 	Google Docs for the labels :)
[12:46]	Noelle Linden 	if not we might have some discrepancies at one point
[12:46]	Catwise Yoshikawa	worg? I'm lost :p
[12:46]	Irene Muni 	work* my fingers are sleeping LOL
[12:47]	Noelle Linden 	anything else for today?
[12:47]	Rand Linden 	So I would like to adopt the suggested changes to labels, pending Noelle's approval, but...
[12:47]	Irene Muni 	ok
[12:47]	Rand Linden 	I need to find out if we can just change the labels, or if we will need to go in and 'relabel' all the articles
[12:47]	Rand Linden 	...which would be a hassle
[12:48]	Rand Linden 	Also, minor comment re: "Linden dollar"
[12:48]	Rand Linden 	I just corrected mistake in English style guide that implied it should be capitalized. the work 'dollar' should not.
[12:48]	Rand Linden 	In German, of course, yes, since its a noun
[12:48]	Rand Linden 	but not in English
[12:48]	Irene Muni 	a question about translated articles publish by Jeremy. Many are incompletes. Must we wait or must be edit those articles?
[12:48]	Rand Linden 	Very small point
[12:48]	Torben Trautman 	:)
[12:48]	Rand Linden 	Irene - i think you should wait
[12:49]	Rand Linden 	because they are still in progress
[12:49]	Irene Muni 	ok
[12:49]	Rand Linden 	I have a few small ones that are ready, though
[12:49]	Rand Linden 	i will post to the forum?
[12:49]	Rand Linden 	Is that the best way to tell you about them>
[12:49]	Rand Linden 	?
[12:49]	Youri Ashton 	hey karin
[12:49]	Torben Trautman 	hi Karin
[12:50]	Irene Muni 	ok, but please, don't forgive those translated (partially) articles. They are the only KB that seeing many sepanish residents.
[12:50]	Catwise Yoshikawa	but those articles in spanglish should be not visible for everyone...is not good to see in that state :p
[12:50]	Karin Redgrave 	hi sorry for being late
[12:50]	Noelle Linden 	Irene/Torben, I would like to get some French volunteers involved in the KB translations, and I was wondering if you would like to meet with them next week
[12:50]	Noelle Linden 	with me of course
[12:50]	Torben Trautman 	sure
[12:50]	Noelle Linden 	ok, great
[12:50]	Torben Trautman 	but my french is pretty rusty
[12:50]	Youri Ashton 	kom toch op dit ding zitten joh :p
[12:50]	Irene Muni 	Noelle, there is a setep by step fuide for transte the KB in the wiki, But no problem :)
[12:50]	Noelle Linden 	we will do that in English
[12:50]	Irene Muni 	setp by step guide*
[12:51]	Torben Trautman 	phew :)
[12:51]	Noelle Linden 	just in case...
[12:51]	Noelle Linden 	Hi Karin
[12:51]	Irene Muni 	Catwise said: but those articles in spanglish should be not visible for everyone...is not good to see in that state :p
[12:51]	Irene Muni 	:)
[12:51]	Catwise Yoshikawa	ask them to go to the meeting with homwroks made (step by step guide) :p
[12:52]	Catwise Yoshikawa	ohh, guess they don't read me XD thanx irene ^^
[12:52]	Irene Muni 	ad irena said: ok, but please, don't forgive those translated (partially) articles. They are the only KB that seeing many sepanish residents.
[12:52]	Irene Muni 	LOL
[12:52]	Noelle Linden 	sure, will do
[12:52]	Noelle Linden 	:-)
[12:52]	Irene Muni 	will do... what?
[12:53]	Irene Muni 	I agree with Cat: but those articles in spanglish should be not visible for everyone...is not good to see in that state
[12:53]	Noelle Linden 	tell them to do some homework!
[12:53]	Catwise Yoshikawa	articles in spanglish in visible mode, is not nice
[12:53]	Torben Trautman 	hehe
[12:53]	Irene Muni 	mixed themes XD
[12:53]	Catwise Yoshikawa	hehe yes, she is late :p
[12:54]	Torben Trautman 	if nobody minds I´ll post the transcript tomorrow after work
[12:54]	Noelle Linden 	this is fine Torben, thank you
[12:54]	Catwise Yoshikawa	we were talking about those articles with half english -half spanish. Not serious to make them visible like they are now
[12:54]	Noelle Linden 	and I will ask Eli to come next week
[12:54]	Noelle Linden 	I will keep you posted about the French translators meeting as well
[12:55]	Irene Muni 	LOL
[12:55]	Torben Trautman 	any day but tuesday would work for me
[12:55]	Irene Muni 	Catqise, another thread for the non readed agenda LOL
[12:55]	Noelle Linden 	maybe next Wenesday
[12:55]	Torben Trautman 	ok
[12:55]	Torben Trautman 	now off to beaumont :)
[12:55]	Catwise Yoshikawa	yes lol
[12:55]	Youri Ashton 	well see i guess :p
[12:56]	Noelle Linden 	all right, thank you all for coming
[12:56]	Torben Trautman 	bye bye all, have a great week(end)
[12:56]	Noelle Linden 	and see you next week
[12:56]	Youri Ashton 	bye bye all :)
[12:56]	Rand Linden 	Well I am heading over there, too... cya!
[12:56]	Irene Muni 	Bye all, greetings from Spain!
[12:56]	Noelle Linden 	bye!
[12:56]	Karin Redgrave 	see you all
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