Doc Team/2009-01-21

== List of Attendees ==
*Vista Questi
*Torley Linden
*Gregorii Robbiani
*Nicholas Hawthorne
*Dakota Schwade
*Daniel Voyager
*Jeremy Linden
*Kate Linden
*Dorie Bernstein
*Chimera Cosmos
*Angus Mesmer
*NeoZ Zerbino
*Shaolin Munro
*Knowclue Kidd
*Yuri Amaterasu
*Jaymes Kjeller
*Jon Linden
*secret Christen
*Prof Peapod
*Tourmaline Falken
*Natalya Debevec
*Willow Halfpint
*skate Eel
*Robbo Mills
*Collie Lindman
*Xavion Zaurak
*excessivebehavior Magic
*MoReX Marx
*Lozzie Lowe
*SLB Wirefly
*Poid Mahovlich
*Merry Calliope
*Sonia Stardust
*Contra Enzo
== Transcript ==
*[13:02 SLT] Vista Questi: Hi dorie! hi mr. Torley! -
*[13:02 SLT] Torley Linden: Hahahaha can't fake this tag. I am keeping it real.
*[13:02 SLT] Gregorii Robbiani: hey torley
*[13:02 SLT] Torley Linden: My Doc Team compadres should be here shortly!
*[13:02 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: ok, that was weird, we just talked about you
*[13:02 SLT] Dakota Schwade: This parcel needs tunes, Torley :-)
*[13:02 SLT] Torley Linden: Yeah, talking about me tends to happen eh?
*[13:02 SLT] Torley Linden: There's Jeremy and Kate!
*[13:02 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Torley Linden has pinged you.
*[13:02 SLT] Daniel Voyager: Hey Kate
*[13:03 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Yo!
*[13:03 SLT] Torley Linden: Dakota, what would you suggest for tunes>
*[13:03 SLT] Torley Linden: ?
*[13:03 SLT] Kate Linden: Hi everyone
*[13:03 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: nice Obsk, Torley :-D
*[13:03 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: hey kate, hey jeremy
*[13:03 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Nicholas Hawthorne has pinged you.
*[13:03 SLT] Torley Linden: Brain-enhancement music?
*[13:03 SLT] Dakota Schwade: You wouldn't like it, I go for classical :-)
*[13:03 SLT] Torley Linden: Dorie, you are a tru Obsk-spotter.
*[13:03 SLT] Torley Linden: Oh I used to be a classical concert pianist, I could totally opt for that.
*[13:03 SLT] Vista Questi: then you might like Torle's piano work! ;)
*[13:03 SLT] Gregorii Robbiani: hey dakota i play classical on my parcels
*[13:03 SLT] Torley Linden: "In another life, in another time..." ;D
*[13:03 SLT] Jeremy Linden found "The Games We Played" long before he knew who Torley was :-)
*[13:03 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:03 SLT] ^Neoz^ : ((NeoZ Zerbino has teleported in.))
*[13:04 SLT] Torley Linden: Yeah Jeremy that's such an uncanny connection!
*[13:04 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Torley Linden has pinged you.
*[13:04 SLT] Jeremy Linden: "Jedi Master", too!
*[13:04 SLT] Torley Linden: Welcome welcome each & all to our "office hour", sometimes informally known as a "chit-chat"!
*[13:04 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:04 SLT] Torley Linden: Daniel, are you Pac-Man?
*[13:05 SLT] Chimera Cosmos: I am seriously under-accesorized for this crowd! LOL
*[13:05 SLT] Daniel Voyager: Yes.
*[13:05 SLT] Torley Linden: Wakka-wakka.
*[13:05 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: i'm going to probably keep changing avs each time you see me :)
*[13:05 SLT] Torley Linden: Oh we have quite a diverse crowd, don't worry.
*[13:05 SLT] Daniel Voyager: I'm on pacman adventures this week
*[13:05 SLT] Angus Mesmer is afraid of the invisible Lindens
*[13:05 SLT] Torley Linden: I <3 changing avatars each time you see me too!
*[13:05 SLT] Torley Linden: Ha ha ha!
*[13:05 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Am loading will sit in a sec :p
*[13:05 SLT] Jeremy Linden: I'm not invisible, I'm sitting in my chair next to my bear :-)
*[13:05 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol um no
*[13:05 SLT] Shaolin Munro: zomg i have so maneh swords O.O
*[13:05 SLT] Torley Linden: Oh noes group chat is borkedly for me.
*[13:05 SLT] Dakota Schwade: Invisibility is relative here.
*[13:05 SLT] Chimera Cosmos: Just came from meeting with some reality-based peeps. heheh
*[13:05 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: you havn't changed since last time :)
*[13:06 SLT] Torley Linden: First off, if anyone has curiosities about how Second Life works, or how to improve our Knowledge Base @ http://secondlife.com/kb , you are welcome to ask.
*[13:06 SLT] Torley Linden: Nicholas, OK. FAIR ENOUGH. I shall change then!
*[13:06 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: LOL
*[13:06 SLT] Torley Linden: I could go for my sceny goth girl about now.
*[13:06 SLT] Torley Linden: *cough cough* particles
*[13:06 SLT] Daniel Voyager: Has already been chased by a army of newbies today: http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielvoyager/ LOL
*[13:06 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Am i siting on anyome ?
*[13:06 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: HahaAHAHaa!
*[13:06 SLT] Knowclue Kidd: hello, is this an open discussion?
*[13:06 SLT] Shaolin Munro: yay newbies
*[13:07 SLT] Torley Linden: Whoa that is a lot of noob.
*[13:07 SLT] Gregorii Robbiani: torley can i ask a quick sl-flickr question --- on flickr, do I categorize my sl photos as "photos" or "screenshots"??
*[13:07 SLT] Torley Linden: Yes Knowclue, for the most part it is! ;D Please ask.
*[13:07 SLT] Knowclue Kidd: ty
*[13:07 SLT] Daniel Voyager: HahaAHAHaa!
*[13:07 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: daniel, you always have adventures
*[13:07 SLT] Torley Linden: Gregorii, that's a long question of artistic discussion. I usually do "screenshot" if it's obvious it shows a lot of user interface. Otherwise, "photos".
*[13:07 SLT] Chimera Cosmos: I didn't think noobs knew how to chase, let alone form armies!
*[13:07 SLT] Daniel Voyager: I sure do, nicholas. :)
*[13:07 SLT] Gregorii Robbiani: thanks torley
*[13:07 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: aaawww, but the obsk look was cuter ;-)
*[13:07 SLT] Torley Linden: Hiya Yuri I see you over there.
*[13:07 SLT] Daniel Voyager: lol
*[13:07 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: even on TG you had adventures
*[13:07 SLT] Torley Linden: Dorie, I'm not cute now?! :O
*[13:07 SLT] Kate Linden: It's great to see everyone. Doc Team news: We will be participating in the Education Faire inworld http://blog.secondlife.com/2009/01/10/second-life-education-support-faire-january-25th-30th-2009/
*[13:08 SLT] Yuri Amaterasu: hiya :-)
*[13:08 SLT] Torley Linden: We are edumacators. Iz truth.
*[13:08 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: well, the cuteness factor is down 2 ;-)
*[13:08 SLT] Torley Linden: Oh crap. I'll BRB (not related to my cuteness, just sayin'...).
*[13:08 SLT] Torley Linden: SAVE MY SEAT PLZ.
*[13:08 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: lol
*[13:08 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:08 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: umhuh, stealin his seat?
*[13:08 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: i'll save his seat,
*[13:08 SLT] Daniel Voyager: saves seat
*[13:09 SLT] Kate Linden: Last week we talked about SL Myths.
*[13:09 SLT] Jeremy Linden: I think I may have to build more seating in to this office!
*[13:09 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne gets his stinger ready
*[13:09 SLT] Dakota Schwade: He can always build another one :-)
*[13:09 SLT] Daniel Voyager: Starts to eat the PSY Purple Couch
*[13:09 SLT] Kate Linden: Did anyone think of new myths since then?
*[13:09 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:09 SLT] Dorie Bernstein makes sure a fireball is ready ;-)
*[13:09 SLT] Chimera Cosmos: Can you recap last week's myths?
*[13:09 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: The myth of little green men touching us when we get loged off and cant log back in because we are still " technicly loged in ? "
*[13:10 SLT] Chimera Cosmos swats bee with invisible swatter
*[13:10 SLT] Kate Linden: NeoZ tiz truly a myth about the little green men.
*[13:10 SLT] Object does not appear to be for sale.
*[13:10 SLT] Jeremy Linden: You can find a log of last week's office hour here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Jeremy_Linden/Office_Hours/2009-1-14
*[13:10 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Jeremy Linden has pinged you.
*[13:10 SLT] Kate Linden: However, I can share with you how that happens.
*[13:10 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:11 SLT] Jeremy Linden: I try to post a log each week on the Second Life wiki: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Documentation_Office_Hours
*[13:11 SLT] Torley Linden: OK back. THANX.
*[13:11 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: wb
*[13:11 SLT] Torley Linden: Pac-Man can haz seat.
*[13:11 SLT] Daniel Voyager: :)
*[13:11 SLT] Torley Linden: Welcome welcome!
*[13:11 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: I think that happens in things like IRC. I mean the "Can't login again becasue the system says you're still in" thing.
*[13:11 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol he ate a hole in the seat
*[13:11 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Hey Jon!
*[13:11 SLT] Torley Linden: Jon Linden is on his way now.
*[13:11 SLT] Kate Linden: It's simply that your agent (avatar) data stays with a region after you have logged out. It's more common when there is a crash involved.
*[13:11 SLT] Torley Linden: AND HERE HE IS!
*[13:11 SLT] Torley Linden: Tada.
*[13:12 SLT] Daniel Voyager: Sorry for the hole in the seat lol
*[13:12 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:12 SLT] Jon Linden: i heard my name invoked and responded to the summons over the aether waves
*[13:12 SLT] Torley Linden: I still get that "stuck presence" stuff after crashing. :\
*[13:12 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: but little green men sounds more fun than the boring explanation
*[13:12 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: But I like the boring explainations! Leave me alone!
*[13:12 SLT] Kate Linden: Little green men does sound more fun. Maybe we should amend the KB lol
*[13:12 SLT] Torley Linden: What, you don't want your mind addled with superstition? ;)
*[13:12 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: by little green men, you mean greenies?
*[13:13 SLT] Kate Linden: Hi Jon :)
*[13:13 SLT] Torley Linden: Wow some really cool avatars we have here today.
*[13:13 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: or green jello?
*[13:13 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino nods.... The greenies
*[13:13 SLT] Torley Linden: Shaolin, that's a really neat usage of cel-shade.
*[13:13 SLT] Jon Linden: i'm circumambulating the couch circle to see if i can make everyone rez
*[13:13 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:13 SLT] Shaolin Munro: i didnt know pac man had eye balls
*[13:13 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: hehe
*[13:13 SLT] Torley Linden: If you've just come here, you've entered Documentation Team office hours, where we chat about Second Life tips 'n' tricks, improving the Knowledge Base ( http://secondlife.com/kb - EASY LINK!) and more "understanding how to live your SL better" goodness. Or awesomeness. I prefer the latter.
*[13:13 SLT] Jon Linden: what Torley said!
*[13:14 SLT] Dorie Bernstein whines cause Jon used a superflous big word!
*[13:14 SLT] secret Christen: lol
*[13:14 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:14 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: too much lag to fly
*[13:14 SLT] Torley Linden: We are pretty friendly and casual so if you have a question we can help with (no individual support/billing/account-specific stuff please, for that go to http://secondlife.com/support ) then PLEASE ASK.
*[13:14 SLT] Jon Linden: hey, i like words -- especially precise words!
*[13:14 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Never use a big word when a diminutive one will suffice.
*[13:14 SLT] Jon Linden: hahahahahhahaha
*[13:15 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: Oh! Maybe it would be a good idea to explain how to turn on tooltips in the client. 'Cause I think they're off by default. (At least in the latest RC build they are.)
*[13:15 SLT] Angus Mesmer: it's the do-cu-ment-ta-shun hour, they have to do big words
*[13:15 SLT] Dorie Bernstein laughs
*[13:15 SLT] Torley Linden: Oh! Jaymes, you mean View menu > Hover Tips?
*[13:15 SLT] Prof Peapod: I have a question
*[13:15 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Go for it, Prof!
*[13:15 SLT] Torley Linden: Please have a seat, or stand if you don't like sitting because it makes you feel sittish.
*[13:15 SLT] Kate Linden: Nice idea James. That is useful info for new users.
*[13:15 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: Yeah, that's what I meant. Becuase I didn't realise untill I look! Arrgh!
*[13:16 SLT] Torley Linden: Cupcake, you CAN HAZ TOAST and CUPCAKE.
*[13:16 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Sorry I was afk for a moment there
*[13:16 SLT] Prof Peapod: I spent some time uploading textures at 10L$ a go . But I noticed others can retrieve them from there cache for free by using the keys there. I guess everyone can actualy do that as I did
*[13:17 SLT] Torley Linden: Jaymes, ah yeah. Some of those are turned off by default because awhile ago, we felt it was "too much detail" that could overwhelm new Residents. I personally leave them on, and I agree, for someone who wants more object/land info at-a-glance, good to keep on.
*[13:17 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne looks at the jello and thinks "this would be good for the hive as food"
*[13:17 SLT] Kate Linden: <creating jira for hover tips article>
*[13:17 SLT] Jon Linden: nice, kate
*[13:17 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Is there a way to let your camra go further than the default distance ?
*[13:17 SLT] Torley Linden: Thx Kate. I do recall making a video tutorial about it.
*[13:18 SLT] Torley Linden: YES NeoZ! Are you familiar with Advanced menu?
*[13:18 SLT] Kate Linden: Nice, lets add that too :)
*[13:18 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino nods
*[13:18 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: ctrl-alt-D to see Advanced menu
*[13:18 SLT] Jon Linden: nicholas, this is sugar-free jello
*[13:18 SLT] Torley Linden: NeoZ, from there, Advanced menu > Disable Camera Constraints
*[13:18 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:18 SLT] Torley Linden: ALSO if you set your draw distance higher, your camera can move further.
*[13:18 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Prof, it is possible to access already-uploaded textures by UUID (key), but it is morally questionable at best to try to steal them without the uploader's permission.
*[13:18 SLT] Torley Linden: You can also look under the ground easier with constraints too.
*[13:18 SLT] Torley Linden: *nods with Jeremy*
*[13:18 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Torley Linden has pinged you.
*[13:18 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Yayyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*[13:18 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Thank youuuus!
*[13:18 SLT] Torley Linden: YOU'RE WELCOME
*[13:18 SLT] Vista Questi: or if u lost a prim there, just turn off surface patch rendering
*[13:19 SLT] Jon Linden: we have something in the KB about camera constraints -- i believe there's a video tutorial about it, even
*[13:19 SLT] Vista Questi: OR, try to dig it out. <G>
*[13:19 SLT] Natalya Debevec: I go to wireframe for lost things too
*[13:19 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: ctrl alt t helps you see some stuff too
*[13:19 SLT] Knowclue Kidd: that's a great idea, Natalya!
*[13:19 SLT] Natalya Debevec: if you don't mind your eyes crossing as you look ;)
*[13:19 SLT] Knowclue Kidd: LOL
*[13:19 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Can I ask a question?
*[13:20 SLT] Torley Linden: Please do, Tourmaline (I <3 Watermelon Tourmaline)
*[13:20 SLT] Vista Questi: it depends on where and what it is, but yes. beacons can be very useful for microprim emitters , for instance.
*[13:20 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: What's the best way to minimise that perennial problem of lag .. from an Av point of view, not sim wide, I mean
*[13:20 SLT] Prof Peapod: actualy Im happy that others can grab any textures even if using keys to do it. The price is just an irritation but acceptable
*[13:20 SLT] Willow Halfpint takes a bow :-p
*[13:20 SLT] Torley Linden: We have several ways to easier retrieve lost/small stuff. You can also change Beacon width, I believe 1.22 has some further user interface improvements.
*[13:21 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Everyone, feel free to ask questions anytime! Keep in mind that we specialize in teaching you how Second Life is designed to work; we don't always have the best answers to questions about engineering decisions or policies.
*[13:21 SLT] skate Eel: hey all
*[13:21 SLT] Jon Linden: tourmaline, good question
*[13:21 SLT] Vista Questi: it does! and i LIKE them!
*[13:21 SLT] Natalya Debevec: sakte :)
*[13:21 SLT] Natalya Debevec: skate even
*[13:21 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Please call me Tourma :)
*[13:21 SLT] skate Eel: lol
*[13:21 SLT] Torley Linden: Tourmaline, big questions need... big answers? Since "lag" can be caused by numerous things. There are different kinds of lag. Think about it like going to a Doctor and saying "I hurt!" vs. "My elbow got twisted".
*[13:21 SLT] Willow Halfpint: i dont wana sit on torley so i will wait till it rezes
*[13:21 SLT] Natalya Debevec grins
*[13:21 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: much less typing involved :)
*[13:21 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Prof, glad to hear you're ok with it! Do you need any more information about accessing textures by UUID?
*[13:21 SLT] Vista Questi: the main thing isto find out if it's the server (sim) or client side
*[13:22 SLT] Torley Linden: There are a lot of lag-related tips in http://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=4207 , Tourma =D
*[13:22 SLT] Vista Questi: always look for time dilation first, that's ur best indicator, at least that i know of
*[13:22 SLT] Robbo Mills: Wow. It's crowded here. :)
*[13:22 SLT] Jon Linden: re: natalya's earlier point, this article contains some tips for finding objects you were working with and lost under the ground or whatnot: https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=4331
*[13:22 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: oh ty :)
*[13:22 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Someone called it "The Torley Effect" :-)
*[13:22 SLT] Torley Linden: And remember, the EASIEST addy for the Knowledge Base is *** http://secondlife.com/kb *** Share it with friends!
*[13:23 SLT] Torley Linden: Heya Robbo, welcome!
*[13:23 SLT] Torley Linden: Aw.
*[13:23 SLT] Jon Linden: a search in the KB for the term "lag" pulls up some helpful articles, too
*[13:23 SLT] Torley Linden: I am a promoter for the Doc Team, of the Doc Team, and by the Doc Team. My power lies in my avatar ties.
*[13:23 SLT] Robbo Mills: Hey Torley! Thanks for the Twitter link to this.
*[13:23 SLT] Tourmaline Falken is already feeling the Torley effect ;)
*[13:23 SLT] Robbo Mills: Are they bow ties?
*[13:23 SLT] Torley Linden: If you search the KB and expect to find something REALLY useful but don't with certain keywords... let us know. We can have a look.
*[13:23 SLT] Torley Linden: You're welcome Robbo!
*[13:23 SLT] Collie Lindman: i have a question
*[13:23 SLT] Torley Linden: Robbo, and neckties. Not of the Columbian variety, however.
*[13:24 SLT] Knowclue Kidd: Right Robbo.. was great to be able to catch this on twitter
*[13:24 SLT] [Fur.Tool] 3: Visit Furry Plateau for a free copy.
*[13:24 SLT] Torley Linden: We use Twitter to share info and stuff.
*[13:24 SLT] Jon Linden: go ahead collie
*[13:24 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: crashed
*[13:24 SLT] Robbo Mills: LOL - eeewwww!
*[13:24 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: Scan on
*[13:24 SLT] Collie Lindman: it's to do with prim properties.
*[13:24 SLT] Collie Lindman: like set text
*[13:25 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Sure, go for it Collie. I have some knowledge of LSL :-)
*[13:25 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: Wait...what was that message from "[Fur.Tool]" or something like that? Just curious...
*[13:25 SLT] Collie Lindman: when the script is removed and the properties remain
*[13:25 SLT] Torley Linden: Oh, that reminds me: I recall some of you wondering about "alternate viewers" which are compiled by Residents and have additional features the "official" one may not (like better graphics, lag tools, etc.). Use at your own discretion, but here's a list of them: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Alternate_viewers
*[13:25 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol it's nothing
*[13:25 SLT] Collie Lindman: or like particles
*[13:25 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: yay for prims having long memorie
*[13:25 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: I'LL END YOU >:O
*[13:25 SLT] Robbo Mills: There's a lot of them.
*[13:26 SLT] Collie Lindman: when the script is removed in say a megaprim, will it still create lag?
*[13:26 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Oooo good one was looking for a " list" of them
*[13:26 SLT] Prof Peapod: I was asked today if it would ever be possible to sense the material you were walking on so that walking sounds could be modified. Seemed neat but comlex
*[13:26 SLT] Willow Halfpint: i used Control + Shift + G on the server start up to find theres lot of beta Grids,, i under stand the main grid and the Beta Grid, but why is there like 8?
*[13:26 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Some prim properties do remain after the script is deleted; any sound that is currently playing, particle generators, hovertext, sit targets, and others.
*[13:26 SLT] Torley Linden: That's one of the most helpful things I ever learned in SL, Jeremy. It's not entirely intuitive but a need-to-know.
*[13:26 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Torley Linden has pinged you.
*[13:26 SLT] Robbo Mills: Is a smelly pirate hooker the same as a Dirty Pirate Whore? LOl
*[13:26 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: I tend to other viewers, mainly due to security worries, and arrogance of the developers. One is fixable, the other isn't.
*[13:26 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: is there a list somewhere of all that become part of the prim properties like that?
*[13:27 SLT] Torley Linden: Please send friendship offers to my alt (Torley Olmstead) :)
*[13:27 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Anyone have a sugjestion on the " better" alternative viewer for better graphics ? for a more high end pc... if you will....
*[13:27 SLT] Vista Questi: Weeee! ^.^
*[13:27 SLT] Willow Halfpint: he lies thats his mum
*[13:27 SLT] Torley Linden: Dorie, I remember there being one. Jeremy listed the main ones off the top of my head.
*[13:27 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Torley Linden has pinged you.
*[13:27 SLT] excessivebehavior Magic: No Robbo, One gets paid
*[13:27 SLT] excessivebehavior Magic: :p
*[13:27 SLT] Vista Questi: i like collecting friends. ^_^
*[13:27 SLT] Jeremy Linden: I must admit I don't know how removing a script will affect a megaprim; we don't officially provide support for anything the Second Life viewer is not naturally capable of.
*[13:27 SLT] Kate Linden: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Remove_Prim_Properties
*[13:27 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: those are the ones I knew of too, but got the sensation that there might be some I didn't know
*[13:28 SLT] Collie Lindman: so is it the script call that causes the lagging? or the properties?
*[13:28 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: so whats the new big feature coming to sl
*[13:28 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Can we please stop with the loud gestures?
*[13:28 SLT] Torley Linden: NeoZ, look for some that have the "shadow-draft". KirstenLee Cinquetti's is one but I think there are others. That's work that some LL devs did on adding realtime shadows. It's VERY taxing and a prototype, though.
*[13:28 SLT] Vista Questi: there's a fiarliy comprehensive list in the kb
*[13:28 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino nods Thanks i will Torley
*[13:28 SLT] Jeremy Linden: As for the next big feature, check out today's blog posts! http://blog.secondlife.com
*[13:28 SLT] Dakota Schwade: Coming soon to a grid near you, teenagers! :-)
*[13:28 SLT] Torley Linden: There are loose scraps of code from LL out there which are included in Resident-compiled, open source viewers in various ways.
*[13:29 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: btw do you guys kno if forum acess is for prenium members?
*[13:29 SLT] Torley Linden: Yes, I'm surprised someone else didn't mention XStreet SL/OnRez yet here! ;D
*[13:29 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: cause i cant acess it
*[13:29 SLT] Vista Questi: i thot everyone read that, by now! lol
*[13:29 SLT] Torley Linden: No Xavion, open to any Resident. I'd check you but I'm no longer forum admin. What error do you get?
*[13:29 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: says i cant acess it
*[13:29 SLT] Willow Halfpint: lol we know lindenlabs,, is now with x-street lol ( or is )
*[13:29 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: and im logged in
*[13:29 SLT] Collie Lindman: ah, yes, got the news today
*[13:29 SLT] Torley Linden: Xavion, please show me exact message? Copy-and-paste? There are several possibilities.
*[13:29 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: Now both grids can have the fun of inworld online shopping! Haha!
*[13:30 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: ok ill ge tit
*[13:30 SLT] Vista Questi: i can't WAIT until i can shop Xstreen using 'web-on-a-prim'!
*[13:30 SLT] excessivebehavior Magic: And MS?
*[13:30 SLT] Torley Linden: I'm a shopaholic, I've used XStreet SL + OnRez for a long time. Since they started. Sometimes I like exploring inworld while browsing for goods in another window. It saves time, and the great news is, if you don't have dual monitors, the prices are coming down!
*[13:30 SLT] Willow Halfpint: i thought of an update, you know when you send, messages in group dropdowns,, is it posable to only send it to sertain roles in the group,?
*[13:30 SLT] Jon Linden: that's an interesting question
*[13:30 SLT] Shaolin Munro: wow i have such BAD fps
*[13:30 SLT] Shaolin Munro: :/
*[13:31 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: weird
*[13:31 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: it works now
*[13:31 SLT] Jon Linden: whose answer i'm not sure of
*[13:31 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: must been fixed
*[13:31 SLT] Torley Linden: Willow, you can restrict it so some Roles don't get Notices. But can't do it on a per-Notice.
*[13:31 SLT] Prof Peapod: wish I could do a group invite via script
*[13:31 SLT] Vista Questi: u can set some members in the group to not have voice or post chat, but
*[13:31 SLT] Vista Questi: yea, what torley said!
*[13:31 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: Being able to sendnotices/im's to only certain roles
*[13:31 SLT] Willow Halfpint: dam,, maybe you could look into it as an update, saves having about 4 groups
*[13:31 SLT] Torley Linden: Group Information > Members & Roles > Abilities tab > Notices > Receive Notices and view past Notices
*[13:32 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: hey um how do you guys deal with ared based on voice harassment how do you chekc for proof?
*[13:32 SLT] Torley Linden: Willow, perhaps. It's a good idea as I've heard it come up repeatedly before but I think the next overhaul of groups will need to have other, major, related changes too.
*[13:32 SLT] Willow Halfpint: lol theres lots i bet you know about
*[13:32 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: Ars*
*[13:32 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Is there a reason why Voice travels so much further than text chat? It can be really inconvenient .. not to say embarrassing :)
*[13:32 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Have any of you seen the " nametrick " Group, Where the Group hides you last name ? If so, do you know if taht will ever be a feature or is it just an exploit and will be removed ?
*[13:32 SLT] Torley Linden: The current implementation of Roles (they're like sub-groups) is *not* as intuitive as it could be.
*[13:33 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: Good question Xavion, but I don't think the Lindens here can awnser that....
*[13:33 SLT] Torley Linden: Tourma, if you own/control land, you can restrict voice chat to a parcel.
*[13:33 SLT] Willow Halfpint: for some reason HUDs, in the bottom right,, when you move them, move back to the first spot when you re-log
*[13:33 SLT] Jeremy Linden: If you have a parcel of your own, you can restrict voice distance to-- what Torley just said.
*[13:33 SLT] Torley Linden: About Land > Media tab > Voice's "Use a private spatial channel"
*[13:33 SLT] Vista Questi: you can also do a private voice chat, i belive that also works with conference calls?
*[13:34 SLT] Torley Linden: Willow, haven't seen that in ages. But if it's reproducible, please... report it @ http://jira.secondlife.com
*[13:34 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: But is it something that will be changed in an update later? Voice restricted to say 20 m like text chat is?
*[13:34 SLT] Kate Linden: Morex, would you like your own chair?
*[13:34 SLT] Kate Linden: oops Trance
*[13:34 SLT] MoReX Marx: Sorry am i in the way! Bit lag here my way!
*[13:34 SLT] Torley Linden: Holy crap a bus with a whale has landed on us.
*[13:34 SLT] Willow Halfpint: im with BSI so i will let GC know Torley :-))
*[13:34 SLT] Natalya Debevec: got to dash but learnt lots so far :)) see you later.
*[13:34 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: roflmao
*[13:34 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Willow, it's worth noting that attachments are not "saved" until you detach them, so under certain circumstances you may find that they revert to unexpected earlier states.
*[13:34 SLT] Torley Linden: Have a great one Natalya!
*[13:34 SLT] Dorie Bernstein rolls her eyes
*[13:34 SLT] Torley Linden: Great point Jeremy, I've had that happened to me before.
*[13:34 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Torley Linden has pinged you.
*[13:35 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Hm well I just rent in two places and don't own land
*[13:35 SLT] Lozzie Lowe: improbabilty I guess
*[13:35 SLT] Daniel Voyager: omg
*[13:35 SLT] Robbo Mills: Ahhhh! Transit whales!
*[13:35 SLT] Shaolin Munro: WOW ITS SIN
*[13:35 SLT] Jon Linden: stand by
*[13:35 SLT] Torley Linden: GOOD BYE BUSES
*[13:35 SLT] Tourmaline Falken sighs
*[13:35 SLT] Shaolin Munro: SIN!!
*[13:35 SLT] Willow Halfpint rolls eyes
*[13:35 SLT] Jeremy Linden: BOOM. *kicks*
*[13:35 SLT] Vista Questi: :)
*[13:35 SLT] Robbo Mills: lol
*[13:35 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: hehe
*[13:35 SLT] Torley Linden: THANK YOU
*[13:35 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Always grifers
*[13:35 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: that one was lame and boring :-(
*[13:35 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: Nice one, Lindens!
*[13:35 SLT] Vista Questi: that was FAST! i can't antigrief that quickly! i haven't had the practice! lol
*[13:35 SLT] Torley Linden: If their aim was to make us suffer, they failed. If they meant to entertain, well... it wasn't anything I hadn't seen before.
*[13:35 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:36 SLT] Willow Halfpint pokes Jeremy in the eye,, (( does that make me a Griefer ))?
*[13:36 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Willow Halfpint has pinged you.
*[13:36 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: epic fail on both aims
*[13:36 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Lol
*[13:36 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: i rofled
*[13:36 SLT] Willow Halfpint: love ya realy Jeremy
*[13:36 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Willow Halfpint has pinged you.
*[13:36 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: [13:34] Torley Linden: Holy crap a bus with a whale has landed on us.
*[13:36 SLT] Shaolin Munro: hmmz i think LL needs a future tard detector so it knows when a goofball willl make an account and block em :D
*[13:36 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Hi Lozzie :)
*[13:36 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: best qoute ever
*[13:36 SLT] Torley Linden: Xavion, only in... Second Life!
*[13:36 SLT] Lozzie Lowe: hiya
*[13:36 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol, i don't remember that part
*[13:36 SLT] Jeremy Linden: This is one of the few places I go with my full admin powers activated. Sometimes I need to be quick on the trigger!
*[13:37 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: How will anyone explain that?
*[13:37 SLT] Willow Halfpint: Holly Melon Roling restarts sould be black listed
*[13:37 SLT] Vista Questi giggles, all in all i had fun with it. ; )
*[13:37 SLT] Robbo Mills: The Only Explanation: Tis SL.
*[13:37 SLT] Lozzie Lowe: shame you dont hang around HIP then. It needs it on a regular basis
*[13:37 SLT] Torley Linden: Angus, thanks again for that avatar.
*[13:37 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: "Someone kept on throwing whales and buses at us." "Why?" "I don't know."
*[13:37 SLT] Torley Linden: It has been so beautiful.
*[13:38 SLT] Angus Mesmer: Hehe you're welcome. I must however say that Dancing disappeared
*[13:38 SLT] Torley Linden: Jaymes: It's like Chris Crocker: "LEAVE SECOND LIFE ALONE!!!!"
*[13:38 SLT] Robbo Mills: LOL
*[13:38 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:38 SLT] MoReX Marx: lol
*[13:38 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: [13:38] Torley Linden: Jaymes: It's like Chris Crocker: "LEAVE SECOND LIFE ALONE!!!!"
*[13:38 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: rofl
*[13:38 SLT] Robbo Mills: It must, of course, be tempered by our mere looking around and considering what we now take for "normal".
*[13:38 SLT] excessivebehavior Magic: I have one!!!
*[13:38 SLT] Torley Linden: Oh, and if any of you want our collectible LINDEN BEARS, send us an IM!
*[13:38 SLT] Vista Questi: where?
*[13:38 SLT] Torley Linden: We tend to only give them out upon personal request, so it's proof you had interaction with us.
*[13:38 SLT] Vista Questi: ive never seen that, anywhere!
*[13:39 SLT] Robbo Mills: Linden Beers!?
*[13:39 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Yes pleeeez!
*[13:39 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:39 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino Loves teh linden bears
*[13:39 SLT] Willow Halfpint: wish the linden bears were not like 55 prims each,,, dam you dam you all and you non use of sculptys
*[13:39 SLT] Chimera Cosmos accepted your inventory offer.
*[13:39 SLT] Jon Linden: all bear requests via IM; that way i know i got 'em all
*[13:39 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: So open chat is not personal contact?
*[13:39 SLT] excessivebehavior Magic: How do you delete landmarks from your map?
*[13:39 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: jon, what does your bear look like, is it a piece of jello
*[13:39 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:39 SLT] Torley Linden: Tourma, it can be. Depends on situations. :)
*[13:39 SLT] Jeremy Linden: It's easier to give you a bear if you IM us. We can drop it on your IM window :-)
*[13:40 SLT] Torley Linden: Yes, exactly Jeremy.
*[13:40 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Torley Linden has pinged you.
*[13:40 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: i hope sl will ge tfaster texture rez rates
*[13:40 SLT] Collie Lindman gave you Collie's friendship bear.
*[13:40 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: its horrible going in a store and seeing blurry textures for 5 mins
*[13:40 SLT] Shaolin Munro: OBAMA!
*[13:40 SLT] Torley Linden: Ooh Collie has a friendship bear, why thankya!
*[13:40 SLT] Dorie Bernstein accepted your inventory offer.
*[13:40 SLT] Robbo Mills: LOL
*[13:40 SLT] excessivebehavior Magic: :P
*[13:40 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:40 SLT] Robbo Mills: shaolin I want that!
*[13:40 SLT] Vista Questi: well, won't the move to fiber and that siloing of unused inventory help that some?
*[13:40 SLT] Collie Lindman: yw :)
*[13:40 SLT] Torley Linden: I mused, that if anyone's going to make Second Life movies of Obama, it'd be Obamachinima. =D
*[13:40 SLT] Willow Halfpint: i would like to share some info i was told, Texture of 512 x 512 can make lag, so can Light, and Flexi prims in mass
*[13:40 SLT] Shaolin Munro: OBAMA!
*[13:40 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: ow
*[13:40 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Thank yousss!
*[13:40 SLT] Willow Halfpint: over *
*[13:40 SLT] Collie Lindman: i collect them. only fair i give them, lol
*[13:40 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Oh I didnt know about dropping objects on IM windows
*[13:41 SLT] Torley Linden: excessivebehavior, you can search for the names of those landmarks in inventory, delete them. Then, they won't appear on World Map.
*[13:41 SLT] Shaolin Munro: you canz haves
*[13:41 SLT] Shaolin Munro: :DS
*[13:41 SLT] Torley Linden: Tourma, it's a great tip! New-ish feature.
*[13:41 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Yayz!
*[13:41 SLT] Knowclue Kidd: yowza! Thanks for the Tweet Torley.. fun to listen int
*[13:41 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: any part of the window in particular?
*[13:41 SLT] excessivebehavior Magic: ty
*[13:41 SLT] Knowclue Kidd: gotta book!
*[13:41 SLT] Robbo Mills: geez - rl - brb
*[13:41 SLT] Torley Linden: You can give inventory directory by dragging and dropping from Inventory to IM session window. Don't need to open a profile. And you can drag multiple items. Just the open part where all the chat is, Tourma.
*[13:41 SLT] Angus Mesmer: And a good one. Considering how long the profiels take to load
*[13:41 SLT] Torley Linden: Feel free to test it with me if you like.
*[13:41 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Nope! It's a fairly new feature, just drag any item from your inventory onto any part of an IM window to give that avatar the item.
*[13:41 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino Snuggels with teh brears!
*[13:42 SLT] Torley Linden: Snugglez!
*[13:42 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: You know, I once thought. "What if Residents made their own bears?"
*[13:42 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: I hear that SL Mentoring is being reopened soon and the procedure will change. Can you give any deatils?
*[13:42 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: details too
*[13:42 SLT] Willow Halfpint: it would be nice for users that carn't use photoshop is there was a frame feature on the snapshots to make them more special
*[13:42 SLT] Jeremy Linden: ...can we please stop with the loud gestures?
*[13:42 SLT] Kate Linden: Many Residents make their own bears James. I enjoy when people send them to me :) (Thanks Callie!)
*[13:42 SLT] Torley Linden: Please have some respect for the sonic sanctity of this space!
*[13:42 SLT] Shaolin Munro: hmm i have 1 fps
*[13:42 SLT] SLB Wirefly: hello all :)
*[13:42 SLT] excessivebehavior Magic accepted your inventory offer.
*[13:42 SLT] Shaolin Munro: :/
*[13:42 SLT] Torley Linden: Hello SLB!
*[13:42 SLT] SLB Wirefly: ^^
*[13:42 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Hello SLB
*[13:43 SLT] Willow Halfpint steals a seat
*[13:43 SLT] Torley Linden: Heya Poid dropping in!
*[13:43 SLT] Willow Halfpint: ao off
*[13:43 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne rubs his stinger with his back legs
*[13:43 SLT] SLB Wirefly: rezzing eheh
*[13:43 SLT] Poid Mahovlich: Hi :) thought I'd check it out never been to office hrs b4 :)
*[13:43 SLT] Chimera Cosmos: me either Poid :-)
*[13:44 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino Smiles, "Well hello there Willow" He laughs
*[13:44 SLT] Kate Linden: Welcome to Doc Team office hour Poid.
*[13:44 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Did my question get missed about SL Mentors?
*[13:44 SLT] Poid Mahovlich: Hey all sorry if i stepped on anyone
*[13:44 SLT] Torley Linden: Ohh well welcome to your first Poid! We Documentation Team (Jon, Jeremy, Kate, Torley) are sharing tips 'n' tricks!
*[13:44 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Torley Linden has pinged you.
*[13:44 SLT] Willow Halfpint: torley love what your doing with "HERE"
*[13:44 SLT] Chimera Cosmos: didn't hurt much LOL
*[13:44 SLT] Kate Linden: Tourmaline, I'll read back.
*[13:44 SLT] Torley Linden: Willow, thanks. It's completely nutty right now but will settle soon. And then get crazier again.
*[13:44 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: Speaking of which, I still need to ask Kate and Jeremy for their bears...
*[13:44 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Jaymes Kjeller has pinged you.
*[13:44 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: This is my first time too :)
*[13:44 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:44 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller accepted your inventory offer.
*[13:44 SLT] Willow Halfpint: lol,, you know i have a home there now,, i live under your bed,,,but dont tell anyone
*[13:44 SLT] Lozzie Lowe: SL Mentors ...a waste of time Tourmaline :)))) you know I am
*[13:45 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: Haha! Thanks Jeremy! :)
*[13:45 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Jaymes Kjeller has pinged you.
*[13:45 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: ahh Lozzie - you are a great help
*[13:45 SLT] Robbo Mills: Snugglez? Yeesh!
*[13:45 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: willow, we all know you live under a bed now LOL
*[13:45 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: and anyway, I hear that things are being tightened up
*[13:45 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: so that more help can be given
*[13:45 SLT] Kate Linden: Tourmaline, I hadn't heard that info and unfortunately do not have any to offer. SL Mentors are run by Mia and Lexie Linden
*[13:45 SLT] Willow Halfpint: SL mentors arnt, lol,,, if they have the right tools
*[13:45 SLT] Kate Linden: Thanks Angus :)
*[13:45 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: ok
*[13:45 SLT] Willow Halfpint: Second Living rock <-----
*[13:45 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: hmm granny roll wat is this hmm
*[13:45 SLT] Robbo Mills: They be wizards they be. Arrr.
*[13:46 SLT] Lozzie Lowe: Please dont make me have an attitude class Tourmaline
*[13:46 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: lol
*[13:46 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Lozzie you should know better than to call me Tourmaline ;)
*[13:46 SLT] Angus Mesmer: Well, a solution can be to use GIMP, it's free and seems to be a great tool.
*[13:46 SLT] excessivebehavior Magic: Noobie Island realllllly needs someone to help there!
*[13:47 SLT] Willow Halfpint: i would re-make it,,happly
*[13:47 SLT] [Fur.Tool] 3: The Teen Grid's favorite gadget.
*[13:47 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: crashed again
*[13:47 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: Scan on
*[13:47 SLT] Daniel Voyager: wb
*[13:47 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: I hates the crash monser!!!!
*[13:47 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: what eve rhappened to teen grid do they even have all same feature we do?
*[13:47 SLT] Willow Halfpint: i have a team of about 130 just waiting to help linden and users on help areas in SL
*[13:47 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Noobie Island? = Help Island public?
*[13:47 SLT] Jon Linden: shaolin. dude. we've asked nicely. quit it with the sound gestures.
*[13:47 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: It's full of people helping
*[13:47 SLT] Vista Questi: i cant be the ONLY one that goes there to pluck av's out of there and give them a paw up..
*[13:47 SLT] Robbo Mills: This might not be the place or time but .... does anyone else have the problem of teleporting (or logging on) to their home location - and missing it? Like all the time? By about 10 m?
*[13:47 SLT] Torley Linden: Crashed, back.
*[13:48 SLT] Willow Halfpint: shit torleys back dont talk about him now
*[13:48 SLT] Torley Linden: Robbo, that's a great curiosity. Does it happen even if you reset your home location?
*[13:48 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Lindens crash too ? I dont feel so left out now....
*[13:48 SLT] Collie Lindman: lol
*[13:48 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:48 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: yes I think soRobbo - my LM should take me to my bedroom but alwaays lands me on the beach
*[13:48 SLT] Robbo Mills: Always. Home location. Landmark. Regardless of height.
*[13:48 SLT] Torley Linden: I'm a her right now, but really, any pronoun is fine. NeoZ, sure, I take pictures of crowds and I crash eventually.
*[13:48 SLT] Willow Halfpint: errrr.. soz neoz
*[13:48 SLT] Willow Halfpint: ao on
*[13:48 SLT] Jeremy Linden: "So I was saying to Torley this one time, 'Man, there's no way you could eat that whole watermelon,' and he was all..."
*[13:48 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino Smiles it was teh comfy lol
*[13:49 SLT] Torley Linden: Robbo, hmmm... and you own the land?
*[13:49 SLT] Torley Linden: Hahahah Jeremy.
*[13:49 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Torley Linden has pinged you.
*[13:49 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Torley - you are one of those confusing him/her people too then ... ;P
*[13:49 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: Oh yeah, one thing I have uncovered on my searches is some settings that have found for the windows registry that optimises your connection. But I don't think people like to mess around in there, and I highly doubt people would be interested in it.
*[13:49 SLT] Robbo Mills: It's only a pain cuz my house is in the sky and by teh time I'm fully logged in I'm sprawled in the neighbour's backyard.
*[13:49 SLT] Torley Linden: Yes, Tourma, one of the wonders of Second Life is the ability to be flexible about your gender. :)
*[13:49 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:49 SLT] Torley Linden: I'm going to put pictures of all us @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/torley/ later today.
*[13:49 SLT] Robbo Mills: Yup - tis mine and mine alone.
*[13:49 SLT] Willow Halfpint: nice tits torley
*[13:49 SLT] Daniel Voyager: Is feeling pain from the bee
*[13:49 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: ... and to confuse the likes of me ;)
*[13:49 SLT] Willow Halfpint: :-p
*[13:49 SLT] Torley Linden: <.<
*[13:49 SLT] Vista Questi: or species! ;)
*[13:49 SLT] Willow Halfpint: > . >
*[13:49 SLT] Robbo Mills: It's like everything keeps shifting a little. Even when I build.
*[13:49 SLT] Willow Halfpint: < . <
*[13:49 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne stings the pacman
*[13:50 SLT] Dorie Bernstein isn't really a dragon irl
*[13:50 SLT] Angus Mesmer isn't a glowing orb IRL
*[13:50 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:50 SLT] Robbo Mills: Torley has tits?
*[13:50 SLT] Torley Linden: In addition to all the laughter and silliness here I find it's rewarding how people use SL to deal with self-identity issues.
*[13:50 SLT] Daniel Voyager: lol
*[13:50 SLT] Vista Questi: i'm really a bunny! ask anyone u know who knows ime irl!
*[13:50 SLT] Jeremy Linden really has glowing eyes when he's got God powers activated in RL.
*[13:50 SLT] Willow Halfpint: so. ( poke poke ) been to hyles torley, you know i will keep asking
*[13:50 SLT] Torley Linden: I do now! And that's the most GGW comment I've EVER heard at an office hour.
*[13:50 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: atm Robbo
*[13:50 SLT] Robbo Mills: Do they come with the Linden Beers - uh - Bears?
*[13:51 SLT] Torley Linden: While this is a Mature region, please refrain from sexually harassing Lindens.
*[13:51 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino Pets Nicholas on the head, Isnt you a fuzzy little bee yes you areeee , Yes you areeee
*[13:51 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: ok ok what s a GGW comment
*[13:51 SLT] Torley Linden: Or each other.
*[13:51 SLT] Dakota Schwade: Torley, you're on your Mac as a Mac, or your Mac as a PC, at the moment?
*[13:51 SLT] Robbo Mills: Milk the bee. Milk the bee.
*[13:51 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne looks a neo with his eyes
*[13:51 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: Maybe someday, there will be a full explaination of what each option in the "Advanced" menu. 'Cause I don't know what most of them do, and I daren't use them for fear of breaking things.
*[13:51 SLT] excessivebehavior Magic: you just take the fun out of everything
*[13:51 SLT] excessivebehavior Magic: lol
*[13:51 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: at*
*[13:51 SLT] Torley Linden: (Please send friendship offers to my alt, Torley Olmstead... thank you)
*[13:51 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Oh noess!
*[13:51 SLT] Collie Lindman accepted your inventory offer.
*[13:52 SLT] Robbo Mills: I try out advanced stuff from time to time - just to see what breaks.
*[13:52 SLT] Torley Linden: Jaymes, we've documented most of the important ones in-context. A number of them keep changing. But if you are curious about any in particular, just ask!
*[13:52 SLT] Kate Linden: James I've been compiling a list of Advanced menu features to add into a new KB Article.
*[13:52 SLT] Kate Linden: I put the question out on twitter recently also.
*[13:52 SLT] Torley Linden: Thanks Kate, I forgot about that.
*[13:52 SLT] Kate Linden: Do you have features you'd like me to consider?
*[13:52 SLT] Jaymes Kjeller: Ahh, nice to know that, Kate.
*[13:52 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino thinks there should be a whisper option along with the shout option....
*[13:53 SLT] Willow Halfpint: <--- is working on an SL mentor HUD
*[13:53 SLT] Kate Linden: http://twitter.com/Kate_Linden (feel free to follow Advanced menu chat)
*[13:53 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Does this happen here every whee at this time?
*[13:53 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: week*
*[13:53 SLT] MoReX Marx: Love to stay folks, but got to run! it's all most 5:00 (est) here and time to go home! TC and hope to osee many of you again!
*[13:53 SLT] Torley Linden: YES, sure does Tourma. Unless there's a big holiday or asteroid-hit-earth.
*[13:53 SLT] Willow Halfpint: plz send my ideas, to willow.halfpint@yahoo.com
*[13:53 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Excellent for us Europeans :D
*[13:53 SLT] Torley Linden: If you ever forget Tourma, save a landmark/SLURL of this location, and we always have a sign up here.
*[13:53 SLT] Angus Mesmer: The chat range thing is an issue, yes... Try building a roleplay castle with people in the center of a 48m sphere
*[13:53 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:53 SLT] Vista Questi: i wonder if there's a cheat sheet for the debug settings... it may not be the best way to 'see' them but,
*[13:53 SLT] Vista Questi: wou8ldn'
*[13:53 SLT] Vista Questi: wouldn'
*[13:53 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: And do the Lindens vary?
*[13:53 SLT] Robbo Mills: I think Nicholas would look good in Lozzie's hat.
*[13:54 SLT] Vista Questi: t it be nice if it popped up help the way the lsl scripting window does?
*[13:54 SLT] Kate Linden: Yes Vista
*[13:54 SLT] Torley Linden: Vista, for the ones in Advanced menu > Debug Settings, each has a short tip saying what it does. Also, https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Debug_Settings
*[13:54 SLT] Jon Linden: this office hour is basically just us; other Lindens have other office hours
*[13:54 SLT] Vista Questi: thx hun! looking...
*[13:54 SLT] Lozzie Lowe: nobody is having my hat
*[13:54 SLT] Willow Halfpint: ok owwwwww
*[13:54 SLT] Dorie Bernstein jumps
*[13:54 SLT] Robbo Mills: THAR SHE BLOWS!!!
*[13:54 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Zomg....
*[13:54 SLT] Jeremy Linden: You can also follow any of us on Twitter; we'll try to make announcements as each office hour starts. My twitter name is Jeremy_Linden:
*[13:54 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Jeremy Linden has pinged you.
*[13:54 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: ooooh, he's back *sighs*
*[13:54 SLT] Jeremy Linden: BOOM.
*[13:54 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:54 SLT] Tourmaline Falken drums fingers
*[13:54 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: ban him
*[13:54 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:54 SLT] Merry Calliope: Oh my goodness. Did someone just breach?
*[13:54 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: that was redundant
*[13:55 SLT] Robbo Mills: A breach of etiquette.
*[13:55 SLT] Willow Halfpint: jeremy flicked the bug,, not you nicholas
*[13:55 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Willow Halfpint has pinged you.
*[13:55 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Nicholas sting him....
*[13:55 SLT] Vista Questi: oh i see .. not ALL of them but tome
*[13:55 SLT] Torley Linden: By the way, by being here, you're also seeing that Lindens do take action on griefers. We aren't abuse specialists but we can't just let that crap make us sad.
*[13:55 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: neo, i wish i could
*[13:55 SLT] Torley Linden: LIVE AND DIRECT!
*[13:55 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:55 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: xD
*[13:55 SLT] Vista Questi: i should have known the wiki had that. ^_^
*[13:55 SLT] Torley Linden: It's like OMG THERE WAS A WHALE IN MY FACE AND HE WAS ALL RUININ MY EXPERIENCE AND A LINDEN KICKZ0RED HIM CUZ GRIEFER DUDE BROKE THE COMMUNITY STANDARDS
*[13:55 SLT] Lozzie Lowe: wish you did it on HIP faster
*[13:55 SLT] Robbo Mills: LOL
*[13:55 SLT] Angus Mesmer: Oh, I know. Are there any plans to make Bot Spotting and Bot Hunting official sports?
*[13:55 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Rofl
*[13:55 SLT] Robbo Mills: it's a whale
*[13:56 SLT] Robbo Mills: like a fly
*[13:56 SLT] Robbo Mills: brush away
*[13:56 SLT] Daniel Voyager: Pacman eats bugs you know :p
*[13:56 SLT] Robbo Mills: gone
*[13:56 SLT] Willow Halfpint: lol,,, if they greef lindens there stupid,
*[13:56 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:56 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: and I know for a fact they follow up on AR's, having seen them show up at Dreams often within 10 minutes of ARs being filed
*[13:56 SLT] Robbo Mills: mmmm - bugs
*[13:56 SLT] Vista Questi: I'm greif-proof! :)
*[13:56 SLT] Torley Linden: Should you ever want to know what's not allowed in Second Life (which you should've read the first time you ever logged in, happy reminder), http://secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php
*[13:56 SLT] Robbo Mills: I'm grease proof.
*[13:56 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: yes, griefing Lindens is one of the less-brilliant things to do
*[13:56 SLT] Willow Halfpint messes up torley hair,,,and point at Jaymes
*[13:56 SLT] Daniel Voyager: squashing bugs is fun too
*[13:56 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[13:56 SLT] Robbo Mills: mmm - squashed bugs
*[13:57 SLT] Lozzie Lowe: we can have HIP covered in Prims for 20mins and nothing happens. Yet its the focus often of support
*[13:57 SLT] Daniel Voyager: lol
*[13:57 SLT] Merry Calliope eeps and flutters a little higher.
*[13:57 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Ok so.... Anyone know about sl for cellphones ? I saw somthing on it but it is not for my phone yet.... I have a htc mogul.... Anyone know of any open source ones for all cell phones ? i really want sl oh my phone... lol
*[13:57 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: do you have enough people able to clean up there too?
*[13:57 SLT] Torley Linden: NeoZ, I know a lot about that. :D
*[13:57 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: Yes that is very trying and often results in the sim crashing altogether
*[13:57 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: ooo!
*[13:57 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Tell me tell me
*[13:57 SLT] Torley Linden: YES, Second Life is available for some cellphones. http://www.vollee.com/secondlife
*[13:57 SLT] Robbo Mills: no way
*[13:57 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: In Europe?
*[13:57 SLT] Torley Linden: In cooperation with the stream-happy folks at Vollee, we have a portable client.
*[13:57 SLT] Robbo Mills: iphone?
*[13:58 SLT] Robbo Mills: without a re-feed opf a stream?
*[13:58 SLT] Torley Linden: Check the details there. I have an AT&T Tilt and some other HTC devices are supported. I don't know the whole extent; last I checked iPhone was in the works.
*[13:58 SLT] Sonia Stardust: neat, i'm sitting in green jellow.
*[13:58 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: lol
*[13:58 SLT] Tourmaline Falken passes Sonia a flannel
*[13:58 SLT] Willow Halfpint: theres a new plugin on 3d studio max, so you can upload SL prims to 3d max, were working on development of inergration of this back to SL
*[13:58 SLT] Merry Calliope needs an iPhone version.
*[13:58 SLT] Robbo Mills checks his trousers for green jello - whew! No soap.
*[13:59 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino nods, i saw that... But do you know when they wil have an open client for cell phones,... my spacific phone is not supported on vollee Is there a 3rd part one you know of ?
*[13:59 SLT] Kate Linden: On that banana note, I'm headed to my Office Hour in Grasmere with a brief stop along the way.
*[13:59 SLT] Kate Linden: Nice seeing you all.
*[13:59 SLT] Torley Linden: I don't know about that, NeoZ.
*[13:59 SLT] Jon Linden: that's probably a good place to stop
*[13:59 SLT] Robbo Mills: mmm - bananas
*[13:59 SLT] Torley Linden: But suggest to Vollee on their forums.
*[13:59 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: banana phone!
*[13:59 SLT] Torley Linden: Cheerio Kate!
*[13:59 SLT] Jon Linden: everybody enjoy the rest of your day!
*[13:59 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: otay, I wait till they make one for my phone thens... lol
*[13:59 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: have a great day, Kate :-)
*[13:59 SLT] Collie Lindman: bye and thx kate
*[13:59 SLT] Torley Linden: Thanks so much for joining us at our chat session office hours crazy happening thing!
*[14:00 SLT] Shaolin Munro: get on mic Toreyzorz
*[14:00 SLT] Shaolin Munro: :D
*[14:00 SLT] Torley Linden: Next week, same time, same place.
*[14:00 SLT] Torley Linden: Should you want to bring friends and such.
*[14:00 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[14:00 SLT] Shaolin Munro: we all wana here your sexeh voice
*[14:00 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: thanks, Torley 'n' Jon 'n' Jeremy 'n' Kate :-D
*[14:00 SLT] WidgetHUD v1.1 (Mono): Dorie Bernstein has pinged you.
*[14:00 SLT] Jon Linden: be well!
*[14:00 SLT] Torley Linden: OK I'll get on mic for a bit... heh heh...
*[14:00 SLT] Jeremy Linden: Thanks for coming, everyone!
*[14:00 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: oh snap i tink the griefers back
*[14:00 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: ahhh
*[14:00 SLT] Willow Halfpint: lol
*[14:00 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: wooot!
*[14:00 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: lmao! Awesome Torley
*[14:00 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: over there by the trees i think
*[14:00 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Yayyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*[14:00 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: \o/
*[14:00 SLT] Robbo Mills: Whale-bot is back?
*[14:00 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: i think so
*[14:00 SLT] Robbo Mills: lol
*[14:00 SLT] Xavion Zaurak: lol
*[14:00 SLT] Robbo Mills: bot=boy
*[14:00 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[14:00 SLT] Daniel Voyager: lol
*[14:01 SLT] NeoZ Zerbino: Byes all, Thanks for all the info lindenssss!
*[14:01 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: No never change your voice Torley lol
*[14:01 SLT] Vista Questi: why does everyone automatially blame the males. :P
*[14:01 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
*[14:01 SLT] Dorie Bernstein: we love you as you are, Torley
*[14:01 SLT] Robbo Mills: we need an anti-whale griefer response team. Avatars of Ahab who fling and attach themselves.
*[14:01 SLT] Contra Enzo: sorry lol
*[14:01 SLT] Robbo Mills: Thanks Torley.
*[14:01 SLT] Tourmaline Falken: although coming from a girl av it is always kinda weird (no harrassment intended!) :D
*[14:01 SLT] Nicholas Hawthorne: lol
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