Bug triage/2007-12-26/Transcript

Transcript of Bridie Linden's office hours:
[14:59]	Bridie Linden: 	How's everybody doing?
[14:59]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	Do we have an agenda for today ?
[15:00]	Harleen Gretzky: 	Great! you?
[15:00]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	im great :D
[15:00]	Bridie Linden: 	http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda
[15:00]	Bridie Linden: 	Not a very long one...
[15:00]	Bridie Linden: 	but alas, I'll likely be on my own today so meeting may not move as swiftly...
[15:00]	Bridie Linden: 	:)
[15:00]	benjo33 Alter: 	cheers
[15:00]	Bridie Linden nods 	Bridie Linden nods
[15:01]	Bridie Linden: 	Anyone do anything fun with day off?
[15:01]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	Every day is a day off when you're self employed :D
[15:01]	Bridie Linden laughs 	Bridie Linden laughs
[15:01]	benjo33 Alter: 	ye
[15:01]	Bridie Linden: 	That's hard work WarKirby!
[15:01]	benjo33 Alter: 	lol
[15:01]	Bridie Linden: 	Been there!
[15:02]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	Every day can also be a work day too
[15:02]	Bridie Linden nods 	Bridie Linden nods
[15:02]	Bridie Linden: 	Well, shall we?
[15:02]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	VWR-4010 is up first. New search not accepting non Ascii characters
[15:02]	Jira URL-er v1.2: Invalid format 	Jira URL-er v1.2: Invalid format
[15:02]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	click the spinny SL logo thing to get to the page, everyone
[15:02]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	I already set it :D
[15:03]	Bridie Linden: 	ha!
[15:03]	Bridie Linden: 	thx!
[15:03]	benjo33 Alter: 	i did
[15:03]	benjo33 Alter: 	hope its help
[15:03]	Bridie Linden: 	Looks like a good one to import
[15:03]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	o.0
[15:04]	Bridie Linden just noticed the patch...but haven't looked @ it	Bridie Linden just noticed the patch...but haven't looked @ it
[15:04]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	Your search - Fran FFFFC3 FFFFA7ais - did not match anything we could find within Second Life
[15:04]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	hey there Rob
[15:04]	Rob Linden: 	hi folks
[15:04]	Bridie Linden: 	Howdy Rob!
[15:04]	Bridie Linden: 	We just started...
[15:04]	Harleen Gretzky: 	Hi Rob
[15:05]	Bridie Linden: 	Ok, next up...
[15:05]	Bridie Linden: 	# VWR-4031 - Votes: 0 - Banlist in newer versions (1.18.6) does not show total number of banned avs on Parcel out of 300 - please put this back? - Michi Lumin
[15:05]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	ah
[15:05]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	I know this
[15:05]	Bridie Linden: 	I looked for an existing issue...but couldn't find it
[15:05]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	The info is available
[15:05]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	just not obvious
[15:06]	Bridie Linden: 	But I feel sure I've seen this before...?
[15:06]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	andunintuitive
[15:06]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	yes, there is an existing issue
[15:06]	Bridie Linden: 	Do you have the # WarKirby?
[15:06]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	aside form this one
[15:06]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	I'll look
[15:06]	Bridie Linden: 	kk
[15:07]	Bridie Linden waits... 	Bridie Linden waits...
[15:07]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	hmm
[15:07]	Bridie Linden: 	should we come back to this one?
[15:07]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	I can see why you couldn't find it
[15:07]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	yes
[15:07]	Bridie Linden: 	lol
[15:07]	Bridie Linden: 	kk
[15:07]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	come back to it at the end
[15:07]	Bridie Linden: 	KK
[15:07]	Bridie Linden: 	Next
[15:07]	Bridie Linden: 	# VWR-4020 - Votes: 0 - "About Land" Name changing to another sim's - miranda Ashby
[15:08]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	I've observed something like this quite a lot
[15:08]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	usually lag on sim crossings
[15:08]	Bridie Linden: 	This one also sounds familiar...
[15:09]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	this is differet, though
[15:09]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	seems to be an actual, rather than percieved change
[15:09]	Bridie Linden: 	How so?
[15:09]	Bridie Linden wonders if it can be rerpo'd 	Bridie Linden wonders if it can be rerpo'd
[15:09]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	PErhaps worth adding a comment of that nature
[15:10]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	does the sim keep records on things like that ?
[15:10]	Bridie Linden: 	Will do - and I'll ask internally, but I think I'll hold off importing for now. Ok w/all?
[15:10]	Bridie Linden: 	hey Alice
[15:10]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	ie, updating parcel info
[15:10]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	hello ^^
[15:10]	Bridie Linden: 	Not sure WarKirby...I'll see what I can find out.
[15:11]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	kk
[15:11]	Bridie Linden: 	Next up:
[15:11]	Bridie Linden: 	VWR-3990 - Votes: 0 - Traffic not working cant reset when update is made wont reset to 0 and not keeping proper count
[15:11]	Harleen Gretzky: 	Discription says Spike has seen this too
[15:11]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	how are you ?
[15:11]	Bridie Linden: 	Great Alice - you?
[15:12]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	mmm with flu
[15:12]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	hmm
[15:12]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	but not bad
[15:12]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	never bothered with the traffic system at all, personally
[15:12]	Bridie Linden: 	I know we made a fix to traffic + classified recently...
[15:12]	Bridie Linden: 	jas
[15:12]	Harleen Gretzky: 	It was fixed not to reset teh traffic count on update, that was one of Prok's issues
[15:13]	benjo33 Alter: 	are u in gapan now
[15:13]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	seems like not resetting is best
[15:14]	Bridie Linden agrees 	Bridie Linden agrees
[15:14]	Harleen Gretzky: 	agreed, if you want a reset of traffic create a new classified
[15:14]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	who are in japsn ?
[15:14]	Bridie Linden: 	Hmm - this was reopened http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3814
[15:14]	benjo33 Alter: 	are u
[15:15]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	no :(
[15:15]	WarKirby Magojiro is still looking for the banlist issue 	WarKirby Magojiro is still looking for the banlist issue
[15:15]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	but i hope to go one day in the future
[15:15]	benjo33 Alter: 	well dont come near me with that flue
[15:15]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	lol
[15:15]	Harleen Gretzky: 	seems a duplicate of teh other both reported by the same person
[15:16]	Bridie Linden just saw that Harleen... 	Bridie Linden just saw that Harleen...
[15:16]	benjo33 Alter: 	are u gupunise
[15:16]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	TRaffic count generally refers to parcel traffic, does it not ?
[15:16]	benjo33 Alter: 	gapan
[15:16]	Bridie Linden: 	I'll try and resolve off line...
[15:16]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	I would ask for more info
[15:16]	Bridie Linden nods 	Bridie Linden nods
[15:16]	Harleen Gretzky: 	Classifieds have counts of who has teleported. mapped, and used your profile counts on them
[15:17]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	can#t find the banlist issue, it seems. Might as well pretend it never existed for now
[15:17]	Bridie Linden: 	Let's move on to the next one...(but feel free to leave comments)
[15:17]	Bridie Linden: 	# VWR-4025 - Votes: 0 - Upper left corner black triangle - zann canto
[15:17]	Bridie Linden: 	LEt's come back to ban issue at the end
[15:17]	Bridie Linden: 	Anyone seen this?
[15:18]	benjo33 Alter: 	see whaqt
[15:18]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	looks like a video card thing
[15:18]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	never had it personallty
[15:18]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	Intel GMZ 950 is a gPU, I think ?
[15:18]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	GMA
[15:18]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	yes
[15:19]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	is it supported?
[15:19]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	i don't know
[15:19]	Bridie Linden: 	http://secondlife.com/corporate/sysreqs.php
[15:19]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	thanks
[15:19]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	was jsut going to checjk
[15:19]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	says 945 chipset
[15:20]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	is 950 better?
[15:20]	Bridie Linden: 	later?
[15:20]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	it's a supported card then ?
[15:20]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	sounds like worth importing andd trying to repro
[15:21]	Maxwell Blinker shouts: here kitty 	Maxwell Blinker shouts: here kitty
[15:21]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	although
[15:21]	Bridie Linden nods 	Bridie Linden nods
[15:21]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	might want to ask if they have the problem in windlight
[15:21]	Bridie Linden: 	And if it's specific locations (tho I doubt it)
[15:21]	benjo33 Alter: 	wow u are good in what u doing
[15:21]	WarKirby Magojiro nods 	WarKirby Magojiro nods
[15:21]	benjo33 Alter: 	see u around
[15:21]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	bye
[15:21]	benjo33 Alter: 	nice pepoel
[15:22]	Bridie Linden: 	Bye benjo33
[15:22]	Bridie Linden: 	NExt up:
[15:22]	Bridie Linden: 	VWR-3922 - Votes: 0 - Sculpties/Sculpted prims rez differently after each login -
[15:22]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	oh
[15:22]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	this sounds related to the issues with lossless compression
[15:23]	Bridie Linden: 	I'll import and send to qarl
[15:23]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	The sculpts look right on upload
[15:23]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	but once your cache is cleared, and you re-download it
[15:23]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	they look wrong
[15:23]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	:)
[15:23]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	yep quarl
[15:23]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	qarl
[15:24]	Transit Knoller: 	my i join you?
[15:24]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	This is a bug triage meeting,. alla re welcome
[15:24]	Bridie Linden: 	Sorry distracted by squeaking objects...
[15:25]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	<_<
[15:25]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	-.-
[15:25]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	nect up
[15:25]	Bridie Linden: 	VWR-4016 - Votes: 0 - New login screen is always in English
[15:25]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	# VWR-4016 - Votes: 0 - New login screen is always in English - Alissa Sabre
[15:25]	Bridie Linden: 	beat ya! ;)
[15:25]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	>.<
[15:26]	Bridie Linden: 	Candidate for import
[15:26]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	yeps
[15:26]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	seems self explanatory
[15:26]	Bridie Linden nods 	Bridie Linden nods
[15:26]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	is not supported
[15:26]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	?
[15:26]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	i think he have to change the xml file
[15:27]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	what isn't ?
[15:27]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	with the one of windlight
[15:27]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	like when you use dazzle
[15:27]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	on the new login screen
[15:27]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	hm
[15:27]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	or on the change of the client
[15:28]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	importing this one ?
[15:28]	Bridie Linden nods 	Bridie Linden nods
[15:28]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	kk
[15:28]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	:)
[15:28]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	next up... # VWR-4011 - Votes: 0 - Some texts on new login screen is too small to read on Macintosh - Alissa Sabre
[15:28]	Bridie Linden: 	Last one for today
[15:28]	Bridie Linden: 	:)
[15:28]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	is only a suggest
[15:28]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	but i control better
[15:29]	Bridie Linden: 	"A suggested fix is just to discard new web-based login and revert to the origianl login screen."
[15:29]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	i agree
[15:29]	Bridie Linden: 	Text too small for others?
[15:29]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	no
[15:30]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	fine on windows
[15:30]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	xp
[15:30]	Bridie Linden: 	fine for me too...
[15:30]	Bridie Linden hmms 	Bridie Linden hmms
[15:30]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	for me too
[15:31]	Bridie Linden: 	Mozilla settings?
[15:31]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	import and test, perhaps ?
[15:31]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	he have 1600x 1200
[15:31]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	maybe he use it in a windows
[15:32]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	window
[15:32]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	i don't know
[15:32]	Bridie Linden: 	Maybe worth importing...
[15:32]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	I run in a window.
[15:32]	Bridie Linden: 	sold! :)
[15:32]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	me too
[15:32]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	but not with that resolutin
[15:32]	Bridie Linden: 	and that's it for the agenda!
[15:32]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	and on 20 inch
[15:33]	Bridie Linden: 	I'm still working on gathering folks to discuss age verification issues...
[15:33]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	i have sent the age verification
[15:33]	Bridie Linden: 	a little tricky w/the holidays and all.
[15:33]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	translation in italian
[15:33]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	two week ago
[15:33]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	to linden
[15:33]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	ok. TO be revisited now
[15:33]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/vwr-4031
[15:33]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	and the italian language is not up -.-
[15:33]	Bridie Linden: 	right, thx WarKirby!
[15:33]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	I can't find the duplicate, it seems
[15:33]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	the issue here is that the information IS present
[15:34]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	but it's rather well hidden
[15:34]	Bridie Linden: 	Explain, pls
[15:34]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	The about land used to say
[15:34]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	Banned avatars (X of 300)
[15:34]	Bridie Linden: 	right
[15:34]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	now, you only get the x of 300 if you hover over the banlist
[15:34]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	when it should appear in text beside the banlist
[15:34]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	oh yes
[15:35]	Bridie Linden: 	I remember now!
[15:35]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	a lot of people have had problems finding that
[15:35]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	remember too
[15:35]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	^^
[15:35]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	because removing acess to info is rather unintuitive
[15:35]	Bridie Linden: 	I know we discussed it too...
[15:35]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	yes
[15:35]	Bridie Linden: 	I'll import and double check for it internally
[15:35]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	kk
[15:35]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	ok
[15:35]	Bridie Linden: 	Great!
[15:35]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	and one more issue, since we've got plenty of time
[15:35]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3983
[15:35]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	^^
[15:35]	Bridie Linden: 	kk
[15:36]	Bridie Linden looks... 	Bridie Linden looks...
[15:36]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	I crash constantly when changing between fullscreen and windowed
[15:36]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	and for my italian age verification translation ??
[15:36]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	it's present in windlight, main and RC clients
[15:36]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	it'd be nice to have it imported
[15:36]	Bridie Linden: 	Easy to repro?
[15:36]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	yeps
[15:37]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	ctrl enter twice
[15:37]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	and the viewer crashes
[15:37]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	every time
[15:37]	Bridie Linden: 	Supported card, yes?
[15:37]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	yex
[15:37]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	x1800xt
[15:37]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	O_o
[15:37]	Bridie Linden: 	Sold!
[15:37]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	~10 fps with max windlight settings
[15:37]	Bridie Linden: 	Thx for reporting
[15:38]	Bridie Linden: 	If you all don't mind, I'd like to wrap up early....
[15:38]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	and that's pretty much it
[15:38]	WarKirby Magojiro nods 	WarKirby Magojiro nods
[15:38]	Bridie Linden: 	Thx so much for helping out during holiday week!
[15:38]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	thanks you
[15:38]	WarKirby Magojiro: 	no problem :D
[15:38]	aliceinwire Bleac: 	^^
[15:38]	Bridie Linden: 	:)
[15:38]	Bridie Linden: 	laters!