Adult Content User Group/08/05/2011

==Attendees List==
*Adorabella Felisimo (adorabella.felisimo)
*Aelfwine Crystal (aelfwine.crystal)
*Couldbe (couldbe)
*Counter Landfall (counter.landfall)
*draconis.neurocam (draconis.neurocam)
*Ginette Pinazzo (ginette.pinazzo)
*Huntress Catteneo (huntress.catteneo)
*Hypatia Meili (hypatia.meili)
*Innula Zenovka (innula.zenovka)
*Lara Boyle (lara.boyle)
*Moi Macarthur (moi.macarthur)
*Qie (qie)
*Temperance Hax (temperance.hax)
*The Citizen (the.citizen)
*Viale Linden (viale.linden)
*Vick Forcella (vick.forcella)
*Vista Questi (vista.questi)
*Zada Bury (zada.bury)
==Transcript for Monday August 15, 2011==
[11:05]	Zada Bury 	Heya Viale
[11:05]	Counter Landfall 	When will ZA get its parcel at zexpo Ginette?
[11:05]	Viale Linden 	what no LL reps!
[11:05]	Vick Forcella 	Just as you spoke the words....
[11:05]	Huntress Catteneo 	mmmm coffffeeeee
[11:05]	Ginette Pinazzo 	They are doing the old 'maek them wait' plan, Adora.....
[11:05]	Moi Macarthur 	;-)
[11:05]	Adorabella Felisimo	lol sorry did not see you
[11:05]	Zada Bury 	As talked about the devil ... ^.^
[11:06]	Hypatia Meili 	hi Viale
[11:06]	Innula Zenovka 	i thought you had to name them three times before they appear
[11:06]	Vick Forcella 	with a siggy
[11:06]	Viale Linden 	very busy from a SLCC fun packed weekend
[11:06]	Qie 	Innula, I think it was the heel-clicking that did it
[11:06]	Counter Landfall 	Hi Viale and Slaton
[11:06]	Viale Linden 	No slaton today
[11:06]	Viale Linden 	Vacay
[11:06]	Zada Bury 	Slaton ?
[11:06]	Zada Bury 	Awwww
[11:06]	Ginette Pinazzo 	oh...then..Hi Slaton
[11:07]	Viale Linden 	Quick update
[11:07]	Counter Landfall 	When will ZA get its parcel at zexpo Ginette?
[11:07]	Vick Forcella 	vacancy or vacation, big difference
[11:07]	Viale Linden 	we are still drafting our proposal for a adult welcome area
[11:07]	Viale Linden 	More to come on that
[11:07]	Ginette Pinazzo 	I dont knoiw countre, did you post that question on the agedna? haha
[11:07]	Hypatia Meili 	lol
[11:07]	Counter Landfall 	I am asking you
[11:08]	Viale Linden 	So let me open the agenda
[11:08]	Ginette Pinazzo 	amazingly counter, I am not obligated to answer your questions.....after meeting we can talk abt it
[11:08]	Couldbe 	when do you think you will have them done Viale?
[11:08]	Ginette Pinazzo 	taht agedna has been statc for 2 weeks viale
[11:08]	Hypatia Meili 	everyonis sort of waiting on that
[11:08]	Viale Linden 	ok
[11:09]	Viale Linden 	anyone attend SLCC?
[11:09]	Ginette Pinazzo 	you may need to look throiugh ti and see if any items are veen stiull relevant
[11:09]	Huntress Catteneo 	here in sl?
[11:09]	Qie 	In a synopsis of SLCC, I read a note (on opensource-dev) that there is a new contact for Adult stuff called "Charla"... dunno if that's "Charlar" by another name, or somebody else, or a mistake, or... dunno.
[11:09]	Counter Landfall 	watched a few recorded sessions
[11:09]	Vick Forcella 	Didn't find time yet
[11:10]	Innula Zenovka 	not i, though i watched Rodvik's speech on a video feed
[11:10]	Viale Linden 	Yes, charlar is responsible for Adult from an Adult Point of view
[11:10]	Huntress Catteneo 	bit hard rl, rather far away
[11:10]	Viale Linden 	not a community Point of view
[11:10]	Qie 	ah, okay, thanks.
[11:10]	Couldbe 	why isn't Charlar here then?
[11:10]	Vick Forcella 	Charlar is a Linden?
[11:10]	Ginette Pinazzo 	that distinction might need soem clarifucation,k viale.....adult vs community
[11:10]	Couldbe 	does charlar have an offic hour - err user group?
[11:11]	Viale Linden 	Charlar may make a guest appearance one day
[11:11]	Innula Zenovka 	yeah.. i don't quite understand what we raise with Charlar and what we raise with you, Viale
[11:11]	Huntress Catteneo 	sounds like a computer or group name
[11:11]	Viale Linden 	however, this is a community forum
[11:11]	Ginette Pinazzo 	Charlar is a type of bleu cheese, I think
[11:11]	Vick Forcella 	smelly?
[11:11]	Qie 	(FWIW, I've seen Charlar at Andrew's I think, and Kelly's)
[11:11]	Adorabella Felisimo	LOL
[11:11]	Vista Questi 	cheezy :p
[11:12]	Viale Linden 	or a Producer on our Product team
[11:12]	Viale Linden 	He also manages Mesh
[11:12]	Qie 	ah
[11:12]	Huntress Catteneo 	be rather busy then
[11:12]	Viale Linden 	Everyone enjoy SLCC?
[11:12]	Ginette Pinazzo 	viale..there is one tiyn topic sytill on that agenda that is relevant: update on the new dirction for SL Adutl marketing....know what that refers to?
[11:13]	Huntress Catteneo 	I imagine mesh will be higher priority
[11:13]	Innula Zenovka 	Innula Zenovka is still bemused.. could you give us an exampple of the sort of Adult Content he's interested in as opposed to what a "community group" is interested in?
''
[11:13]	Ginette Pinazzo 	(has cracker with bit of charlar..mm)
[11:13]	Qie 	I liked what I heard of Rod's talk at SLCC... and the in-world builds.
[11:13]	Counter Landfall 	adult mesh perhaps?
[11:14]	Vick Forcella 	perv..
[11:14]	Viale Linden 	Ginette - can you remind us about Zexpo event
[11:14]	Lara Boyle 	I thnk before that Viale.... Ginette deserves an answer to her point about the one thing remaining on the agenda
[11:14]	Ginette Pinazzo 	did you see my quetsion a few line sback abt trhe agenda item: Update on new direction of SL Adutl Marketing?
[11:15]	Viale Linden 	Have you reached out to our editors about your event?
[11:16]	Lara Boyle 	hello..... are you listening Viale? - or am I invisible?
[11:16]	Ginette Pinazzo 	of course I have.....far along that path....working with DG now..and will have MotD point to it
[11:17]	Ginette Pinazzo 	plenty of maagzien and otehr media interviews schedukles...I will have a lot to say to the press
[11:17]	Vick Forcella 	...crash...
[11:17]	Hypatia Meili 	last year all we got was a tweet
[11:18]	Hypatia Meili 	wichwas rather disapointing
[11:18]	Viale Linden 	when is the event?
[11:18]	Ginette Pinazzo 	this yera you will get a lot of stuff.....and the press will get to blast it all over......so lets hope there are godo thinsg to say!
[11:18]	Ginette Pinazzo 	open AUG 26
[11:19]	Viale Linden 	Ok
[11:19]	Viale Linden 	I will see what I can do
[11:19]	Counter Landfall 	and when does it close?
[11:19]	Viale Linden 	DG is the starting point
[11:19]	Ginette Pinazzo 	runs 10 days
[11:19]	Viale Linden 	will you list more than 1 location for sim load balancing
[11:19]	Ginette Pinazzo 	then the movie crea coems in an makes a documentary abt it for the next 8 monthds
[11:20]	Ginette Pinazzo 	*crew
[11:20]	Viale Linden 	Facebook and Twitter could be off limited - FYI
[11:20]	Ginette Pinazzo 	list more than one location....ar eyou referring to the DG info?
[11:20]	Viale Linden 	Yes - for the DG
[11:20]	Hypatia Meili 	off limited?
[11:20]	Huntress Catteneo 	pg
[11:21]	Huntress Catteneo 	can't do adult
[11:21]	Ginette Pinazzo 	those typeos of detaisl I expect to work w/ Brett on
[11:21]	Viale Linden 	sorry could be off limits
[11:21]	Innula Zenovka 	off limits to whom?
[11:21]	Huntress Catteneo 	adult
[11:21]	Hypatia Meili 	seems recentlt LL has beeninlove with facebook and twitter
[11:22]	Viale Linden 	based on their TOS, LL's official Twitter and FB page may not be able to promote
[11:22]	Temperance Hax 	though adult was allowed tobe advrtised now, as per anouncement one month ago?
[11:22]	Ginette Pinazzo 	but in general, we have a setup where we encourage visitors to quickly leave the main landing and explore....TPing to various spots throughout the show...so they disperse and dotn gather
[11:22]	Innula Zenovka 	right, but there's nothing to stop residents tweeting about them?
[11:22]	Viale Linden 	Right
[11:22]	Viale Linden 	Innula - by all means
[11:22]	Innula Zenovka 	thanks.. as i thought
[11:23]	Hypatia Meili 	strangly the offical LL anoucemnt last year was via twittier, whichi actuly thoght was strange
[11:23]	Viale Linden 	I will think of some other areas within our arsenal
[11:23]	Temperance Hax 	thank you
[11:24]	Viale Linden 	I think the login screen could work
[11:24]	Viale Linden 	Question for Zexpo folks
[11:24]	Counter Landfall 	motd cauae sim to run full immedeately
[11:24]	Counter Landfall 	cause*
[11:24]	Lara Boyle 	I'm listening - unlike some
[11:24]	Viale Linden 	Do you have the permissions to get rid of griefers?
[11:24]	Ginette Pinazzo 	we principlayy work ona n organic approach to our marketing.....using the creators themsleves as a number one resource and driver
[11:25]	Lara Boyle 	no one has spoken to us about that...
[11:25]	Moi Macarthur 	I don't think I do
[11:25]	Lara Boyle 	we would like an answer one way or another
[11:25]	Ginette Pinazzo 	only exhibitors with the correct roel can rez on the island..that takes care of the griefing issue, really
[11:25]	Lara Boyle 	what about troublemakers in general?
[11:26]	Viale Linden 	how about the ability to expel?
[11:26]	Huntress Catteneo 	unless a builder goes rogue lol
[11:26]	Lara Boyle 	what's the protocol there
[11:26]	Ginette Pinazzo 	teh ZEXPO island system, as it is set up now, has bene working quite well.....no grieifng issues ever, really
[11:26]	Viale Linden 	OK
[11:26]	Moi Macarthur 	phew
[11:26]	Viale Linden 	just curious
[11:26]	Temperance Hax 	we will need orles that can do that s anyone can script and griefer suually use sound and particles from attachments inmy experience
[11:26]	Zada Bury 	If I remember last year, we was in firm contact with some Lindens "for the case of" ... but was not needed.
[11:26]	Huntress Catteneo 	has powers to do most stuff
[11:27]	Zada Bury 	Blondin was somehow make the contact.
[11:27]	Huntress Catteneo 	in the group
[11:27]	Ginette Pinazzo 	I believe the benefits of the system we have now outweifgh any detriments.......griefing....explusion..etc...small matters....we relyu on 'adult behavior ' and promotinga certain culture of sophistication to avoid those matters
[11:27]	The Citizen 	What does greifing have to do with an Adult Content meeting. Greifing is a general issue in SL, wouldn't it be more appropriate to bring it up there? shouldn't you focus more on content discussion?
[11:27]	Qie 	yeah... if some heads-up were given to Governance (or whatever they're called) for the duration of the event, it might be helpful, just in case.
[11:27]	Counter Landfall 	Question for Ginette again, when will ZA get the parcel allocated?
[11:28]	Ginette Pinazzo 	after meeting coungtre. I alreayd told you. not now
[11:28]	Counter Landfall 	I am aksing for our members here?
[11:28]	Counter Landfall 	is there an issue?
[11:28]	Ginette Pinazzo 	Viale..the only real involvement Id say LL coudl have in Island events, that relaly matetrs...is timely sim restarts
[11:29]	Lara Boyle 	aye... that's a VERY valid point
[11:29]	Viale Linden 	OIK
[11:29]	Viale Linden 	Ok
[11:29]	Viale Linden 	Ginette
[11:29]	Viale Linden 	I will alert CS about this
[11:29]	Ginette Pinazzo 	fabulous
[11:29]	Viale Linden 	Counter - what is your question?
[11:29]	Hypatia Meili 	oh whowould we talk toabout regular resrts for vortex?
[11:29]	Counter Landfall 	Question for Ginette again, when will ZA get the parcel allocated?
[11:30]	Temperance Hax 	Im guessing that ginette doesnt want toleave the meeting early to do it, seems fair counter?
[11:30]	Ginette Pinazzo 	I am not going to repeat mysefl, counter
[11:30]	Counter Landfall 	for zexpo
[11:30]	Counter Landfall 	everyone else has got theri parcels?
[11:30]	Counter Landfall 	so is there an issue?
[11:31]	Temperance Hax 	no poeple chose thir ownparcels
[11:31]	Ginette Pinazzo 	Viale.....Id liek to hear what you have to say abt the 'ADult SL marketing ...new direction...yuou mad eit seem as if there might be material to review soon
[11:31]	Temperance Hax 	if you need help its ok,it is available
[11:31]	Aelfwine Crystal 	Can someone maybe tell me where the Zexpo is going to be?
[11:31]	Huntress Catteneo 	I am sure he is bringing it up as not feeling fairly treated and hoping if raised here he will be
[11:31]	Zada Bury 	*drop a LM*
[11:31]	Aelfwine Crystal 	Thank you !
[11:31]	Viale Linden 	I will review - we are actually doing a rather large messaging excercise
[11:32]	Ginette Pinazzo 	IM me Aelfwine, for the LM
[11:32]	Viale Linden 	Not ready yet
[11:32]	Ginette Pinazzo 	large messaging exercise? that soudsn exciting
[11:32]	Viale Linden 	yes
[11:32]	Aelfwine Crystal 	(got it Ginette, thanks anyway)
[11:32]	Vick Forcella 	I request LL promotion on Zexpo and visability on LL web
[11:33]	Viale Linden 	Would MOTD bring down your event?
[11:33]	Ginette Pinazzo 	bring down?
[11:33]	Huntress Catteneo 	MOTD?
[11:33]	Viale Linden 	too much traffic
[11:33]	Temperance Hax 	no it would be great
[11:33]	Counter Landfall 	from experience it sure will fill the landing sim very fast
[11:34]	Lara Boyle 	can you please explain all this code-talk?
[11:34]	Moi Macarthur 	MOTD?
[11:34]	Lara Boyle 	either I'm not in the loop, thick, stupid or something!
[11:34]	Counter Landfall 	MOTD = messager of the day
[11:34]	Counter Landfall 	the login message
[11:34]	Zada Bury 	"mOTD" is the message, you see on the login to SL
[11:34]	Huntress Catteneo 	ahh
[11:34]	Counter Landfall 	in your viewer
[11:34]	Hypatia Meili 	whic sim is landing one i forgot
[11:34]	Viale Linden 	I think if we point to the web Destinat Guide, we can load balance per se
[11:34]	Moi Macarthur 	ty
[11:34]	Lara Boyle 	thank you
[11:34]	Zada Bury 	Well ... Phoenix-Users may see a different message ^.^
[11:34]	Ginette Pinazzo 	if thats a real fera, Viale...there maybbe solution such as poitning peoepl to a notehr spot, where they get the shows Guidebook (filled with L:Ms) so they disperse even faster...but bits a bit 11th hour for that
[11:34]	Viale Linden 	Everyone sees MOTD
[11:34]	Innula Zenovka 	that's up to Phoenix, though, isn't it?
[11:35]	Counter Landfall 	the worst thing that can happen is if people get a sim full message when they want to go there
[11:35]	Qie 	(the problem is, enough people click on that to actually crash a sim with their arrivals -- then nobody shows up. but... only during prime time, if then.)
[11:35]	Ginette Pinazzo 	DG staff and I talked, and the consensu seesm to be: MotD pointing to DG
[11:35]	Viale Linden 	Qie - we will point to several slurls on the destination guide
[11:35]	Counter Landfall 	I have experienced this firt hand in bay City when we got MOTD
[11:36]	Counter Landfall 	it was very difficult to even get to the sim for hours on end (28 hours)
[11:36]	Qie 	right, a MotD to DG should be quite safe.
[11:36]	Lara Boyle 	well... we've spoken to etlife and SLinside.... that should reach a lot of folks
[11:36]	Lara Boyle 	fetlife*
[11:36]	Zada Bury 	that sounds like a great event ^_^
[11:36]	Ginette Pinazzo 	and dont forget, youre ally need to poiunt to DG anywya, so those who have not age verified can undestand the situation
[11:37]	Lara Boyle 	we're promoting Zexpo our own way
[11:37]	Innula Zenovka 	Viale, I've just logged my alt in with Phoenix, and there was no MOTD.. just something about a maintenance update of Phoenix
[11:37]	Zada Bury 	((How to tell it's a good event? Sim is full ... how to tell it's great? Sim crashes ))
[11:37]	Hypatia Meili 	lol
[11:37]	Innula Zenovka 	And you don't see it in Firestorm, either, I'm sure
[11:37]	Viale Linden 	I want the adult community to shine during expo. It is an opportunity for you all. Please make it work
[11:37]	Zada Bury 	Phoenix can modify the MOTD ... was everytime, even as Emerald
[11:37]	Vick Forcella 	It is important for LL to embrace Adult Second Life, hence LL promotion of Zexpo
[11:37]	Innula Zenovka 	I know, Zada, but someone has to ask them
[11:38]	Ginette Pinazzo 	good point Vick..I KNEW youd coem up with one (tasing0
[11:38]	Viale Linden 	+1 Vick
[11:38]	Zada Bury 	Maybe we can ask the Phoenix/Firestorm team also this year about a promotion?
[11:38]	Lara Boyle 	frankly... I get the feeling that actually promoting zexpo is an uphill struggle
[11:38]	Zada Bury 	Wasn't there last year also a communication, gin?
[11:39]	Viale Linden 	I will let you know what ad vehicles we have next week
[11:39]	Ginette Pinazzo 	ZEXPO this year is very creator-driven....more interactive and engaging for the participanmst themselves...this will help drive more to the show and also create lasting impact
[11:39]	Vick Forcella 	Thank you Viale
[11:39]	Lara Boyle 	I've already made Tonya Souther know about zexpo... trying to get Phoenix to do some thing
[11:39]	Ginette Pinazzo 	thansk Viale...by then we;ll have sorted out our DG content with the DG staff
[11:39]	Viale Linden 	Ok
[11:40]	Viale Linden 	Let me know if you need my help there
[11:40]	Ginette Pinazzo 	will do
[11:40]	Couldbe 	are there many adult content providers taking part?
[11:41]	Lara Boyle 	define 'content provider' please couldbe
[11:41]	Ginette Pinazzo 	look at website...the answer is cleart...yes
[11:41]	Counter Landfall 	I think this meeting asked for a list of adult content providers and Zindra participants
[11:41]	Hypatia Meili 	and nonadult content based in adult too
[11:41]	Innula Zenovka 	i had a look.. why do you think the big names are staying away?
[11:41]	Couldbe 	goods and services usually
[11:42]	Lara Boyle 	well my group sure as hell is not PG!!!
[11:42]	Couldbe 	that doesn't answer my question though
[11:42]	Hypatia Meili 	i make adult and non-adult stuff
[11:42]	Ginette Pinazzo 	its a big Sl.....yiuve got agreta cross-selction of talent at the show..I think its very divers, interetsing and representative
[11:42]	Couldbe 	are you based on mature land or adult? are they adult services/goods or mature?
[11:43]	Qie 	hmmm... if I were Xcite, I think I'd stay away... lest any of my customers discover there are other adult content providers.
[11:43]	Lara Boyle 	couldbe... I'll have a bet with ya..... 95% of Zexpo is adult orientated in one way or another
[11:44]	Vick Forcella 	...95% of SL is adult orientated...
[11:44]	Lara Boyle 	aye
[11:44]	Hypatia Meili 	oh i thoght sombody had said 2 to 4 %
[11:44]	Hypatia Meili 	:p
[11:44]	Counter Landfall 	I thin Couldbe asked in the last meeting to ensure that no participnats Lm to mature regions?
[11:44]	Counter Landfall 	think*
[11:44]	Ginette Pinazzo 	I am not going to waste everyone's time going over details of how this show was organised..that can be debriefed later...suffice to say, every effort ahs bene mad eto gather a fantastic array of exhibitors
[11:44]	Viale Linden 	Question for yall
[11:45]	Viale Linden 	why cant I find Zexpo 2011 in google
[11:45]	Couldbe 	Viale says it's a chance for adult content to shine - if there are no adult lands based providers there then how is that going to happen?
[11:45]	Moi Macarthur 	oh
[11:45]	Temperance Hax 	maybe yu have filtering
[11:45]	Ginette Pinazzo 	viale....which google are yo9u using? its all over the place
[11:45]	Temperance Hax 	I can
[11:45]	Lara Boyle 	so can I
[11:45]	Viale Linden 	what are you searching for?
[11:45]	Zada Bury 	First result: http://zindrabusiness.blogspot.com/2011/03/zexpo-2011-planning-resumes-after.html
[11:45]	Temperance Hax 	may need ot changeyour filter to moderate
[11:45]	Qie 	lol... good ol' SL Universe and it's massive google-foo
[11:45]	Viale Linden 	I just typed zindra expo 2011
[11:45]	Zada Bury 	enter: zexpo 2011
[11:45]	Hypatia Meili 	good question , personaly i find google results suck more and more
[11:46]	Temperance Hax 	try zexpo 2011
[11:46]	Vick Forcella 	It's Zexpo, easy for Google to find
[11:46]	Lara Boyle 	I got 18,000 results for Zexpom 2011
[11:46]	Innula Zenovka 	https://sites.google.com/site/zexpo2011/home/
[11:46]	Counter Landfall 	but zexpo is not something most would search on
[11:46]	Viale Linden 	I get this
[11:46]	Viale Linden 	http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Upcoming-Events-and-Activities/ZEXPO-2011-runs-AUG-26-thru-SEP-4-Celebrating-the-Adult-Side-of/td-p/898729
[11:46]	Huntress Catteneo 	as long as adulty content allowed on your system
[11:46]	Zada Bury 	http://unzippedzindra2011.blogspot.com/ comes for me then first
[11:46]	Counter Landfall 	you skuld have zindra expo and other keywords up
[11:47]	Moi Macarthur 	Please excuse me E/everyone. RL is calling I have to leave.
[11:47]	Hypatia Meili 	would they seach for zindra expo
[11:47]	Huntress Catteneo 	IE or Firefox?
[11:47]	draconis.neurocam 	google filters content and makes search result fit what they think you want
[11:47]	Lara Boyle 	I would've thoght Zexpo 2011 was the key phrase
[11:47]	Couldbe 	but viale, it isn't.. that's the point and no one has yet given me an answer - the main adult thing seems to be the land it is on
[11:47]	draconis.neurocam 	results*
[11:47]	Huntress Catteneo 	google is hand and glove with one
[11:47]	Lara Boyle 	Safari! *grins*
[11:47]	Ginette Pinazzo 	does anyone have any otehr topci theyd liek to discuss in the last 10 minutes?> before Google takes over? haha
[11:47]	Vick Forcella 	Google looks at Links from Big Websites, like Secondlife.com, any links fro SL towards the Zexpo?
[11:48]	Temperance Hax 	well mostof what i have seen is adult, everything from strippers to copulating fleas
[11:48]	Counter Landfall 	zexpo is only a search phrase if you had heard zexpo already
[11:48]	Hypatia Meili 	yeah (showing results for "sum dumb shit" instead of "what yoou wanted )
[11:48]	Counter Landfall 	for the rest it is totally unintuitive
[11:49]	Couldbe 	we all know that ginettes push down the last year or so has been to promote non sexualised content that is based on adult land
[11:49]	Counter Landfall 	she has Couldbe
[11:49]	Couldbe 	i.e. it's not really adult except for where it is placed
[11:49]	Viale Linden 	Ok - I am checking on promotion channels
[11:49]	Ginette Pinazzo 	couldbe yue...dont pretend to sepak for everyone
[11:49]	Temperance Hax 	thank you Viale
[11:49]	Couldbe 	so it seems to be pretty odd to be promoting it as adult content when it's not
[11:49]	Huntress Catteneo 	I get 6 hits for our zexpo on first page
[11:50]	Hypatia Meili 	wellthtgoes to tha old mixed use question, cant have true mixed use in mature any more
[11:50]	Counter Landfall 	Question to Viale, when will we get the terms for the zepxo sims to be sold after the event?
[11:50]	Huntress Catteneo 	countries filter content too
[11:50]	Qie 	Well, whatever is the Zexpo content, it would be really best if it *not* have links to non-adult locations. That's really not what we're trying to promote here.
[11:50]	Hypatia Meili 	Adult expo second life
[11:50]	Viale Linden 	love this
[11:50]	Temperance Hax 	couldbe sexbeds strippers and stuf flike that is considered adult in SL
[11:50]	Viale Linden 	https://sites.google.com/site/zexpo2011/home/zexpo-2011-event-schedule
[11:50]	Ginette Pinazzo 	couldbe ...stop saying just any old thing to cause confusion....you are wrong about what you say
[11:50]	Couldbe 	then someone please tell me the proportion of adult content providers that are taking part in the expo
[11:51]	Viale Linden 	You guys are an amazing group to pull this together
[11:51]	Temperance Hax 	come andhave ook around zexpo:)
[11:51]	Counter Landfall 	and maybe use german, french and other language keywords ión the web pages
[11:51]	Lara Boyle 	I run an adult Group... on Adult Land... wr're promoting ourselves at Zexpo in an adult manner.... we got medical... bondage... D/s..... Pony play... medi-play... we got talks... lectures.... events... ALL with a strong adult theme...
[11:51]	Zada Bury 	that's called a "community" ^.^
[11:51]	Ginette Pinazzo 	multilanguage woudl be fabulous...id liek to see more of that ion futrue shows....if there are future shows
[11:51]	Vick Forcella 	How 'bout the ones with a blog also link to the Zexpo website, should rank it up
[11:51]	Viale Linden 	I know we have had our ups and downs, but I am amazed at your collaboration
[11:51]	Counter Landfall 	just buy the sims Ginette ;-)
[11:51]	Lara Boyle 	and from what I have seen over there... just about everyone else is doing EXACTLY the same thing couldbe... does that answer your question?
[11:51]	Couldbe 	ginette - you should have those details at your fingertips
[11:52]	Couldbe 	otherwise what are you going to talk to the press about?
[11:52]	Vick Forcella 	Vick Forcella checks the herbs in Viale his sigarette
''
[11:52]	Huntress Catteneo 	only issue I have is land parceling at zexpo, I think that has to be Lindens do
[11:52]	Lara Boyle 	viale.... collaboration is the name of the game... despite some appearances you have some very professional people here... no matter what the time-wasters may say
[11:52]	Viale Linden 	I think the "gateway" could be a success too
[11:52]	Ginette Pinazzo 	dotn tell me what I shoudl ro shoudol nto have, couldbe...look at the websiet and figure it out...I dotn need to sit here and compile informaion for you thats readily available
[11:52]	Viale Linden 	I agree
[11:53]	Viale Linden 	+1 Lara
[11:53]	Qie 	Lara, so it's in your best interest, like everyone else's here, if people don't link out from Zexpo to non-Adult locations.
[11:53]	Temperance Hax 	we need three parcels
[11:53]	Viale Linden 	Ok - I owe you some things
[11:53]	Ginette Pinazzo 	we can do the pacrelloing inside the island Hunt.....the only topic is the saling routs the Lindens have aroudn the Island....we can talk abt that 9n futrue
[11:53]	Lara Boyle 	out group has put in a lot of effort... and I know a lot of others have too.. AND Ginette deserves a LOT of praise for all she has done and all the crap she has to put up with
[11:53]	Viale Linden 	Sorry for the delay on the doc
[11:54]	Viale Linden 	SLCC took up a lot of my time last week
[11:54]	Hypatia Meili 	what is the deal with the un-updated agenda page are we not using it anymore?
[11:54]	Counter Landfall 	NP
[11:54]	Counter Landfall 	you can email it to me when you have it ready
[11:54]	Huntress Catteneo 	water bottom is ugly, so barron
[11:54]	Viale Linden 	We will have a doc on the "gateway" sorteed out next week
[11:54]	Viale Linden 	Counter - I have a question
[11:54]	Counter Landfall 	sure
[11:55]	Hypatia Meili 	we a r all waiting onth doc
[11:55]	Viale Linden 	If someone has a FRE on mainlain (zexpo sims) will they have the ability to expel griefers?
[11:55]	Lara Boyle 	as far as Iam concernd Que.... we have to rely on the LL age verify.... and then there's still no way of guarenteeing the 'real age' of kids using parents puters or Elvis's details...
[11:55]	Hypatia Meili 	ant even integently plan out options with out it
[11:55]	Lara Boyle 	and I KNOW it happens
[11:55]	Counter Landfall 	FRE?
[11:55]	Huntress Catteneo 	FRE?
[11:55]	Viale Linden 	Full Region Equivalant
[11:56]	Counter Landfall 	yes
[11:56]	Lara Boyle 	I wish you would stop talking in code viale... *smiles*
[11:56]	Viale Linden 	cool
[11:56]	Counter Landfall 	they will
[11:56]	Viale Linden 	Just like a non mainland region?
[11:56]	Counter Landfall 	yes
[11:56]	Huntress Catteneo 	yes
[11:56]	Viale Linden 	ok
[11:56]	Viale Linden 	Blake sea told me that was not possible
[11:56]	Counter Landfall 	but that can be sorted through groups or security devices too
[11:57]	Viale Linden 	ok
[11:57]	Counter Landfall 	so there are wasy to fix it
[11:57]	Viale Linden 	Good. We may ask you fro help on that
[11:57]	Counter Landfall 	please
[11:57]	Lara Boyle 	I'm bringing my own security people...
[11:57]	Viale Linden 	Guys = off topic
[11:57]	Huntress Catteneo 	if Vortex group was like Zepo ones for allowed stuff it would work beautifully
[11:58]	Lara Boyle 	but they will have no real power
[11:58]	Viale Linden 	We had a huge surge of Traffic from Brasil yesterday
[11:58]	Viale Linden 	Apparently some TV in Brasil
[11:58]	Counter Landfall 	maybe someone opened a firewall, hehe
[11:58]	Lara Boyle 	that happens every time there's a TV show somewhere....
[11:58]	Vick Forcella 	I adore Brasilian ladies
[11:58]	Viale Linden 	SL is growing
[11:58]	Lara Boyle 	I've seen it so many times as a LL mentor
[11:58]	Lara Boyle 	when Amber ran it
[11:58]	The Citizen 	Wait... really? oh no.
[11:59]	Huntress Catteneo 	eek they are usually so aggressive
[11:59]	Vick Forcella 	mmhmm :)
[11:59]	Viale Linden 	Did you all see the Q2 econ post about Registration?
[11:59]	Counter Landfall 	yep
[11:59]	Huntress Catteneo 	hate working gate when they come in
[11:59]	Viale Linden 	good stuff
[11:59]	Vick Forcella 	retention, retention, retention
[11:59]	Counter Landfall 	it would be great if you rpovided some info on demographics of the new signups
[11:59]	Viale Linden 	+1 vick
[11:59]	Counter Landfall 	new signups is good :-)
[11:59]	Qie 	and conversion to "economic participants"
[12:00]	Counter Landfall 	that too Qie
[12:00]	Viale Linden 	Much younger than usual over the last 3 or 4 months
[12:00]	Counter Landfall 	I would think, but who stays?
[12:00]	Couldbe 	no one - and that's the problem rod skirted around
[12:00]	Viale Linden 	We are focused on the usability improvements
[12:00]	Temperance Hax 	SL usually attracts the crowd that used to do sims1 I thought?
[12:00]	Vick Forcella 	anyone that lasts longer as a month is addicted and won't leave forever
[12:01]	Viale Linden 	Basic and advanced need to merge soon
[12:01]	Lara Boyle 	that's true Vick
[12:01]	Viale Linden 	Yes vick
[12:01]	Lara Boyle 	get them for a month... and they are hear for life
[12:01]	Viale Linden 	They forget to sleep
[12:01]	Counter Landfall 	the step from basic to advanced is raterh big
[12:01]	Counter Landfall 	you need to ease that transition
[12:01]	Lara Boyle 	THAT is why the mentoring was such a good idea that got destroyed
[12:01]	Temperance Hax 	basic destroys usabilityastheydo what we say andit doesnt work,thebest workaround is advise phoenix
[12:01]	Vick Forcella 	I have many old friends still on Basic, and the spend a fortune, more as I do
[12:02]	Viale Linden 	lara - check this our - pls hold
[12:02]	Temperance Hax 	oh youmeane viewer one? as basic?
[12:02]	Viale Linden 	http://secondlife.com/destinations/howto
[12:02]	Vick Forcella 	basic as in non-premium
[12:02]	Huntress Catteneo 	ooo I am Viewer one
[12:02]	Lara Boyle 	I mentor for White Tiger Helpers
[12:02]	Temperance Hax 	Ithought yu meantthebeginner mode that prevents using sl
[12:02]	Huntress Catteneo 	oh paid
[12:03]	Viale Linden 	are they listed?
[12:03]	Vick Forcella 	Wow, Viale, that's a great link
[12:03]	Huntress Catteneo 	many get paid account when they finally want a home or shop
[12:03]	Lara Boyle 	I believe so
[12:03]	Counter Landfall 	basic is a good starter point, but it has a bit too few concepts to make an esay transition to "normal" viewer mode
[12:03]	Temperance Hax 	Imconfused about what you mean by "basic"
[12:04]	Counter Landfall 	Basic is the starter mode for all new signups on the LL viewer
[12:04]	Viale Linden 	I have to inhale some food before my next meeting
[12:04]	Viale Linden 	Everyone good?
[12:04]	Counter Landfall 	it has limited functionality, and a great DG strip
[12:04]	Temperance Hax 	thebeginners viewer mode in viewer2 you can ask new citizens inc and they will tell yu exactly what do with it lol
[12:04]	Zada Bury 	political correct word for "a smoke"?
[12:04]	Vick Forcella 	I'm always bad... :)
[12:04]	Vick Forcella 	Take care Viale, have fun!
[12:04]	Qie 	thanks Viale
[12:05]	Temperance Hax 	right that mode cause people to cry,because we say do such and such, andit doesnt work
[12:05]	Viale Linden 	Thansk all - good meeting
[12:05]	Counter Landfall 	Cheers Viale
[12:05]	Innula Zenovka 	thank you, Viale
[12:05]	Temperance Hax 	so they think theycantuse sl and leave
[12:05]	Zada Bury 	Tahnk you for your time
[12:05]	Ginette Pinazzo 	food sounds good...Im off too
[12:05]	Temperance Hax 	thanks viale
[12:06]	Temperance Hax 	and iwante dot thank you and SLaton f r your help with vortex sandbox
Generated by the 'Wikify SL Chat Log' utility by DG Products for Second Life (DGP4SL)