Beta Server Office Hours/Minutes/2010-04-29

Category:Beta Server Office Hours - Minutes
This meeting was held on April 29th, 2010
= Agenda =
* Updates
** So the grid has some issues today...
*** Meeting here: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Pooley/219/67/76
** 1.40 info
*** Havok 7 is merged.
*** should be a few more goodies
** Getting private regions into ADITI for 1.40 testing.
* Releases
** 1.38.4 1st week in May
*** contains havok 4 logging.
= Resolved Items =
= Meeting Minutes =
* ADITI was inaccessible so we met at Oskar's home on Pooley.
* We talked about 1.40.
* We talked about how to get your region to ADITI for testing under 1.40.
* Maestro talked about the plan for core qa to set up an external hosting site for testing.
* We had like 60 people on the region pooley. :-)
= Transcript =
Transcript of Oskar Linden's Beta Server Office Hour for April 29th, 2010:
* [14:57] SHAMUS Carter: hi oskar
* [14:57] ANSI Soderstrom: hi oskar
* [14:57] ANSI Soderstrom: can i have your bear ?
* [14:57] Xugu Madison: hey Oskar, thanks for hosting
* [14:57] Oskar Linden: ask later :-)
* [14:57] Huns Valen: needs more bathtub
* [14:57] Charlene Trudeau: oskar has a bear now?
* [14:57] Xugu Madison: ANSI, don't you have your own bear yet? :)
* [14:57] Charlene Trudeau: lol
* [14:57] Oskar Linden: not a lot of chairs here
* [14:57] SHAMUS Carter: oskar has a bear?
* [14:57] Oskar Linden: but this is my comfy little home
* [14:58] Psi Merlin: Hi Oskar
* [14:58] Charlene Trudeau: very nice :)
* [14:58] Oskar Linden: hi hi
* [14:58] SHAMUS Carter: very nice
* [14:58] Oskar Linden: this is one of the first things I made as a linden
* [14:58] Gooden Uggla: nice pad
* [14:58] Xugu Madison: Hey, Oskar has a sense of aesthetics. What sort of geek are ya!? :)
* [14:58] Moundsa Mayo: Very comfy, while the water stays warm.
* [14:58] Oskar Linden: I am a geek who minored in fine arts
* [14:59] SHAMUS Carter: ahhhh
* [14:59] ANSI Soderstrom: cool roof
* [14:59] Gooden Uggla: bathtub fetish, awesome
* [14:59] Oskar Linden: cleanliness is next to godmodeliness
* [14:59] Xugu Madison: Feel free to rez any time you like, all of you...
* [14:59] Gooden Uggla: and you can have friends over!
* [15:01] Oskar Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Beta_Server_Office_Hours#Agenda
* [15:01] Oskar Linden: there is the agenda
* [15:01] Xugu Madison: Oskar has an agenda! I knew it!
* [15:01] Oskar Linden: yup yup
* [15:01] Oskar Linden: so yeah, thanks for coming to my home/office
* [15:01] SHAMUS Carter: Yus ! a secreat one
* [15:01] Oskar Linden: I'm almost never here though
* [15:01] Charlene Trudeau: Oskar always has an agenda :)
* [15:02] Gooden Uggla: it's a cool place, glad to be here
* [15:02] Oskar Linden: most of the art on the walls is hanging in my real office
* [15:02] ANSI Soderstrom: iam always here on char footsie :) nicest place in the whole sl
* [15:03] Gooden Uggla: we've discovered his secret... it's all about a fascination with blinking lights...
* [15:03] Oskar Linden: here comes maestro
* [15:03] Oskar Linden: I love the blinking ights
* [15:03] Oskar Linden: lights
* [15:03] Gooden Uggla: as do we all
* [15:03] SHAMUS Carter: bl;inky lights are cool
* [15:03] Oskar Linden: especially if they tell time
* [15:03] Xugu Madison: Note to self. If you need to distract Oskar, use xmas tree lights
* [15:03] Gooden Uggla: it's our version of "oohhh shiny!"
* [15:03] Oskar Linden: my favorite is the one under the water below us
* [15:03] SHAMUS Carter: •*•.. HahahaA •*•.. 
* [15:04] Gooden Uggla: adherents can be found at any fry's store...
* [15:04] Oskar Linden: so item 1 in the agenda
* [15:04] Oskar Linden: grid issues
* [15:04] Oskar Linden: swears it wasn't us this time
* [15:05] Melfina Marshdevil: you broke it
* [15:05] Melfina Marshdevil: I know you did
* [15:05] Charlene Trudeau: lol
* [15:05] SHAMUS Carter: hehe
* [15:05] Oskar Linden: thinks some kid down in phoenix needed to recharge his PSP and pulled some data center plugs out
* [15:05] ANSI Soderstrom: o.O
* [15:05] Charlene Trudeau: roflmao, my back yard
* [15:05] SHAMUS Carter: 0.o
* [15:05] Oskar Linden: Charlene!!
* [15:05] Charlene Trudeau: I'll have to beat my kids on pricipal
* [15:05] Charlene Trudeau: ;P
* [15:05] Huns Valen: it was me
* [15:05] Oskar Linden: used to live in Phoenix
* [15:06] Charlene Trudeau: born and bred here :)
* [15:06] Charlene Trudeau: native desert rat
* [15:06] Oskar Linden: not sure if I covered that in my "Who is Oskar" story last week
* [15:06] Damen Hax: It happened when i tried to rez something.. co-incidence i'm sure
* [15:06] Oskar Linden: might be getting down to Phoenix soon
* [15:06] Oskar Linden: has tentative plans to buy this car: 
* [15:06] Oskar Linden: you have to go to phoenix to build it though
* [15:06] Oskar Linden: realizes this is WAY off topic
* [15:06] Melfina Marshdevil: site bandwidth exceeded.
* [15:06] Gooden Uggla: actually, i noticed last night that 4 major north american routers were out, including the high-volume one in vancouver
* [15:06] Chalice Yao: snickers.
* [15:06] Melfina Marshdevil: hahah
* [15:07] Oskar Linden: but... that car just makes me swoon
* [15:07] Damen Hax: wow
* [15:07] Charlene Trudeau: oooh fun
* [15:07] Melfina Marshdevil: wishes
* [15:07] SHAMUS Carter: .
* [15:07] Moundsa Mayo: "It's a dry heat"
* [15:07] SHAMUS Carter: pore pooly
* [15:07] Oskar Linden: so yeah the grid is having issues because of a major power outage in phoenix
* [15:08] SHAMUS Carter: poweroutages are never fun
* [15:08] Gooden Uggla: looks like a mustang front end
* [15:08] Xugu Madison: Please tell me this has been a learning experience, and the next time someone unplugs a data centre it'll reboot faster? And/or the power cable is no longer shielded, and whoever trips over it will be sacrificed to make it worthwhile...
* [15:08] Oskar Linden: so that made things a tad difficult
* [15:08] Oskar Linden: is amazed that OPS kept the grid up though
* [15:09] Oskar Linden: send them some love over that
* [15:09] Oskar Linden: srsly!
* [15:09] SHAMUS Carter: yah
* [15:09] Xugu Madison: nods "Yes, do send our thanks to ops!"
* [15:09] SHAMUS Carter: Thank You!! 
* [15:09] Jonathan Yap: Did they have to push regions onto other datacenters?
* [15:10] Oskar Linden: not sure what they did exactly
* [15:10] Oskar Linden: mostly rerouting traffic to backups and stuff
* [15:10] Oskar Linden: they do their job and I do mine
* [15:10] Oskar Linden: :-)
* [15:10] Oskar Linden: I have no real news for 1.40
* [15:10] Oskar Linden: we're branching it at the end of next week
* [15:11] Oskar Linden: so, fingers crossed, it'll be on ADITI by Friday afternoon
* [15:11] Oskar Linden: I'll send out a mail or notice or something
* [15:11] Skills Hak: oh oskar's place :o
* [15:11] Oskar Linden: probably the OH after that we can talk about the release notes
* [15:11] Oskar Linden: hey skills
* [15:11] Skills Hak: where's the fridge?
* [15:11] Skills Hak: hiya!
* [15:11] Oskar Linden: fridge is internal to the NW column
* [15:11] Noor Loam: helloo
* [15:11] Xugu Madison: So... 1.40 not going to be out for testing this weekend, right? Which is fine, just want to be clear
* [15:12] Oskar Linden: it will NOT be on ADITI for this weekend
* [15:12] Oskar Linden: we still have a few pieces in sandbox
* [15:12] Oskar Linden: and getting more through merge every day
* [15:12] Oskar Linden: Milo has been doing well wrangling those pieces
* [15:13] Noor Loam: do i need voice
* [15:13] Oskar Linden: no
* [15:14] Oskar Linden: we're all in txt
* [15:14] Oskar Linden: I just noticed that kelly and simon were sitting alone in morris on aditi
* [15:14] Noor Loam: ok ok
* [15:14] Oskar Linden: aww
* [15:14] Ardy Lay: Oi
* [15:14] Oskar Linden: I forgot to tell them it moved to here
* [15:14] Latif Khalifa: seems that aditi works from linden land
* [15:14] Rex Cronon: hi everybody
* [15:15] Oskar Linden: looks like lindens can log in
* [15:15] Chalice Yao: Hey Rex.
* [15:15] Oskar Linden: but I don't see any restrictions
* [15:15] Latif Khalifa: Oskar, port 80 on login server seem to be firewalled off
* [15:15] ANSI Soderstrom: than make us all to a linden
* [15:15] SHAMUS Carter: maby it;s beinng silly?
* [15:15] ANSI Soderstrom: in aditi
* [15:15] Oskar Linden: that might explain it
* [15:15] Rex Cronon: hi:)
* [15:16] Ardy Lay: Hmm... This is a busy region.
* [15:16] Oskar Linden: it is
* [15:16] Oskar Linden: busier now
* [15:16] Oskar Linden: :-D
* [15:16] Faust Vollmar: I miss anything good yet or just discussion about Aditi misbehaving?
* [15:16] Ardy Lay: Hehe
* [15:16] Maestro Linden: aditi may be fixed as of 1 minute ago
* [15:16] Drew Dwi: I got on aditi
* [15:16] Oskar Linden: the new resis on the stage might not know what is going on
* [15:17] Oskar Linden: but then we'll just tell them it's lag
* [15:17] Noor Loam: lol
* [15:17] SHAMUS Carter: hehe
* [15:17] Gooden Uggla: careful oskar, they'll accuse ya of gaming traffic!
* [15:17] Oskar Linden: well we're all here now
* [15:17] Ardy Lay: o•"Lag City "•o
* [15:17] Oskar Linden: heh
* [15:17] Jonathan Yap: This region will be full with 2 more avatars
* [15:17] SHAMUS Carter: wow 57 av in sim
* [15:17] Oskar Linden: yeah I just want to get people here to play my fishing game down on the water
* [15:17] Techwolf Lupindo: Bring in your alts now. :-)
* [15:17] Drew Dwi: the real question is, who tripped over the power coard
* [15:17] SHAMUS Carter: did not think that was still posab;le
* [15:17] Oskar Linden: no one who works for us
* [15:18] ANSI Soderstrom: aditi is able to login now
* [15:18] Noor Loam: forgot to feed the hamster...
* [15:18] Rex Cronon: gee. so dark in here. is this a vampires only, because if it is u should know i just ate garlic:)
* [15:18] Oskar Linden: well even so. we're meeting here
* [15:19] SHAMUS Carter: wow the sim is plumiting
* [15:19] Oskar Linden: so yeah, hopefully there will be some surprises in 1.40
* [15:19] Oskar Linden: can't talk about them yet
* [15:19] Oskar Linden: soon :-)
* [15:19] Melfina Marshdevil: meany
* [15:19] Moy Loon: ;)
* [15:19] Oskar Linden: I know
* [15:19] Faust Vollmar: Has to be somethign that will make people angry, if you're not allowed to talk about it. =p
* [15:20] Faust Vollmar: (I'm kidding)
* [15:20] Oskar Linden: so on the topic of "Getting private regions into ADITI for 1.40 testing."
* [15:20] Latif Khalifa: aditi fixed for all wondering about it :)
* [15:20] Rex Cronon: come on oskar, make this place a little lighter:)
* [15:20] Oskar Linden: this palce is perfect
* [15:20] Noor Loam: use a FACELIGHT its fine here
* [15:20] Oskar Linden: the sun is setting
* [15:20] Oskar Linden: look at the view
* [15:20] Charlene Trudeau: ewww facelights lol
* [15:20] Noor Loam: ya
* [15:21] SHAMUS Carter: hehe face lights are err anoying
* [15:21] Charlene Trudeau: so glad we can turn off seeing them G<>
* [15:21] Damen Hax: What if you don't own a whole sim but a large chunk of one, possible to have loaded onto aditi?
* [15:21] Latif Khalifa: puts on his facelight 3000
* [15:21] Oskar Linden: there are too many to keep track of
* [15:21] Oskar Linden: so, like I mentioned last week I want to wipe the slate clean of regions we use on ADITI
* [15:21] WolfPup Lowenhar: i would switch to better setting but running < 10 FPS as it is
* [15:21] Tor Gant: hehe
* [15:21] Oskar Linden: I'll be making a list of regions to use for a specific beta release and it will be easier to track
* [15:21] Oskar Linden: I'll try to do this in jira
* [15:22] Oskar Linden: see how that works: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5755
* [15:22] Melfina Marshdevil: soo if you clean the regions that means you can claim land for free?
* [15:22] Damen Hax: handy to test sim with many different parcel restrictions, group owned land, user owned land
* [15:22] Oskar Linden: so if you have a mainland region you for sure want up on ADITI during 1.40 testing add it there as a comment
* [15:22] Drew Dwi: can you move bug island over?
* [15:22] Jonathan Yap: But you will keep a base set of regions like Morris, etc. Maybe there should be a list of those some place.
* [15:22] Oskar Linden: the oatmeal sims will be up and I'll try to have them more open to customized testing
* [15:22] Oskar Linden: add it drew
* [15:22] Drew Dwi: ty
* [15:23] Faust Vollmar: Morris, and atleast two of the sandboxes, one of them probably weapons testing.
* [15:23] Melfina Marshdevil: commented
* [15:23] Melfina Marshdevil: :3
* [15:23] Oskar Linden: cool
* [15:23] Rex Cronon: and rausch too:)
* [15:23] Oskar Linden: add it rex
* [15:23] Faust Vollmar: ah yes cant forgtet Rausch, my bad.
* [15:23] Oskar Linden: I'm not taking the requests here
* [15:24] Oskar Linden: please add it to the jira
* [15:24] Rex Cronon: oh. ok
* [15:24] Oskar Linden: I will keep a base set of regions like Morris
* [15:24] Oskar Linden: aditi is fairly starved for resources
* [15:24] Oskar Linden: I will explain more in a few weeks
* [15:24] Oskar Linden: but we have some regions going to testing tcmalloc soon
* [15:24] Oskar Linden: and some other projects
* [15:25] Oskar Linden: so I need to make sure that the regions up on ADITI are being efficiently used
* [15:25] SHAMUS Carter: ahhh
* [15:25] Gooden Uggla: good idea
* [15:25] SHAMUS Carter: be bar none the core sims should be on aditi
* [15:26] Maestro Linden: hm let's see, this list might be accurate
* [15:26] Oskar Linden: the core sims will
* [15:26] Maestro Linden: for mainland regions on aditi
* [15:26] Gooden Uggla: so babbage, fresh off fixing mono is jumping into tc malloc with half of aditi?
* [15:26] Oskar Linden: I might have to update that list maestro
* [15:26] Oskar Linden: it's not been the most accurate for a while
* [15:26] Gooden Uggla: ./end snark
* [15:26] Damen Hax: oh.. i have some land in mocha.. must be blind never noticed it on aditi
* [15:26] Maestro Linden: ok
* [15:27] Jonathan Yap: This used to work but is failing to connect for me now: 
* [15:27] Maestro Linden: yeah that host went down < Jonathon :(
* [15:27] Melfina Marshdevil: Opensource Obscure added a comment - 29/Apr/10 03:26 PM
* LOL
* [ Show » ]] 
* Opensource Obscure added a comment - 29/Apr/10 03:26 PM LOL
* [15:27] Melfina Marshdevil: ha
* [15:27] Melfina Marshdevil: good comment
* [15:27] Opensource Obscure: :D
* [15:27] Oskar Linden: :-)
* [15:27] Maestro Linden: we're planning to get a new hosting service for that and some of our other sim communication tests
* [15:28] Oskar Linden: I knew OO would get LOL in there
* [15:28] Oskar Linden: oh right :-)
* [15:28] Oskar Linden: tell us about the plan maestro
* [15:28] Maestro Linden: 1) sign up for a 3rd party hosting service that supports PHP and maybe some other scripting languages
* [15:28] Maestro Linden: 2) done
* [15:29] Oskar Linden: 3) beer
* [15:29] Gooden Uggla: it's good to have a simple plan
* [15:29] Oskar Linden: it is gooden
* [15:29] Noor Loam: I like your pink fingernails Maestro
* [15:29] Maestro Linden: thanks Noor
* [15:29] Gooden Uggla: and beer
* [15:29] Oskar Linden: core qa doesn't mess around
* [15:30] Oskar Linden: then maybe that grid tool thing I tried making will work
* [15:30] Oskar Linden: that free php hosting setup wasn't the best
* [15:30] Oskar Linden: ideas on an awesome domain name?
* [15:30] Melfina Marshdevil: what about google apps?
* [15:30] Drew Dwi: why php maestro?
* [15:30] Melfina Marshdevil: lol
* [15:30] Faust Vollmar: Freehostia doesnt act up too much for me, if you want a free one. =p
* [15:30] Maestro Linden: we already have some scripts written in PHP
* [15:30] Drew Dwi: and yea, was just thinking google app engine
* [15:30] Oskar Linden: it really doesn't matter what we use drew
* [15:30] Maestro Linden: so it's convenient =P
* [15:30] Faust Vollmar: It acts up, but not too much.
* [15:31] Xugu Madison: Burn PHP. Burn it with fire
* [15:31] Oskar Linden: php is simple enough to bash out what we need
* [15:31] Oskar Linden: we're not getting into a codebase debate here
* [15:31] Melfina Marshdevil: heh
* [15:31] Maestro Linden: we'll probably pick a host that supports several popular languages, just to have options
* [15:31] Rex Cronon: added:)
* [15:31] Oskar Linden: google apps is too much overhead
* [15:32] Oskar Linden: we're going with dreamhost
* [15:32] Gooden Uggla: call it "whosyourbeta"
* [15:32] Oskar Linden: simple, cheap, and lots of options
* [15:32] Melfina Marshdevil: dreamhost? can I give you a referal code?
* [15:32] Drew Dwi: lol
* [15:32] Techwolf Lupindo: Hmm...I have a server that host php websites.
* [15:32] Moundsa Mayo: Find a service in Dallas, or Australia, Tristan de Cunha, even, ANYWHERE but Phoenix ...
* [15:32] Oskar Linden: ok melfina
* [15:32] Oskar Linden: im it to maestro
* [15:32] Techwolf Lupindo: And its not in phoenix. :-)
* [15:32] Melfina Marshdevil: logging into my account now ill have it to you in a sec.
* [15:32] Lares Carter: heya everyone, and i was waiting in Aditi - really silent there ;P
* [15:32] Charlene Trudeau: lol
* [15:33] Charlene Trudeau: sorry, Lares
* [15:33] Oskar Linden: sorry lares. I messaged the group here
* [15:33] Moundsa Mayo: Ya, now we can't talk about Lares anymore.
* [15:33] Oskar Linden: and updated the agenda
* [15:33] Oskar Linden: most had login issues
* [15:33] Charlene Trudeau: my fault, I wasn't paying attention to IMs or I'd have had him here sooner
* [15:33] Rex Cronon: AFK...............................
* [15:33] Rex Cronon: afk
* [15:33] Lares Carter: nah, no problem. ill just read the log later.
* [15:33] Faust Vollmar: hasnt heard much about dreamhost so can't comment on that choice.
* [15:34] Drew Dwi: they are good
* [15:34] Drew Dwi: can't argue with choice :)
* [15:34] Oskar Linden: I've used them in the past
* [15:34] Dante Tucker: I use dreamhost. They are pretty reliable and support pretty much everything.
* [15:34] Oskar Linden: and they're super simple and you can do a lot
* [15:34] Oskar Linden: I was impressed
* [15:34] Oskar Linden: we really don't need a lot of fanciness
* [15:34] Oskar Linden: we just need pages hosted outside of ll domains
* [15:35] Oskar Linden: so that's really all I have for this week
* [15:35] Oskar Linden: things will pick up again next week for sure!
* [15:35] Maestro Linden: oh I have 1 more thing to add
* [15:35] Oskar Linden: ok
* [15:35] Oskar Linden: anyone have anything to talk about?
* [15:36] Faust Vollmar: Think you'll be able to tell us what the surprises are next week? =p
* [15:36] Maestro Linden: I looked into svc-5411 No "accepted/declined inventory" notice under server 1.36.0
* [15:36] Melfina Marshdevil: hint us
* [15:36] Melfina Marshdevil: :D
* [15:36] Maestro Linden: and yeah, it's a bug for sure.
* [15:36] Skills Hak: oh great
* [15:36] Maestro Linden: not expected behavior
* [15:36] Latif Khalifa: \o/
* [15:36] Latif Khalifa: finally some good news
* [15:36] ANSI Soderstrom: RL is catching me, iam sorry, have to leave... tc all, cu next week
* [15:36] SHAMUS Carter: bugs are fun
* [15:36] Ovaltine Constantine: Okie dokie, what'd I miss?
* [15:36] Latif Khalifa: (in a world where a bug is good news)
* [15:37] Latif Khalifa: but much better than expected behaviour for sure :)
* [15:37] Skills Hak: i noticed that one in february i think
* [15:37] Skills Hak: pretty annoying
* [15:37] Oskar Linden: in a world where people freak out that ll changes behaviour they expect a bug is good news
* [15:37] Latif Khalifa: yeah
* [15:37] Oskar Linden: on an entirely different topic I watched this movie last night: 
* [15:37] Skills Hak: is there a flood filter for these packets?
* [15:37] Oskar Linden: it rocked
* [15:37] Latif Khalifa: bug are fixable, linden behaviour is not :P
* [15:38] SaZaN Senizen: :D
* [15:38] Tor Gant: i most go sorry about thet.
* [15:38] Oskar Linden: if ur into the arts at all or like street art/graffiti it's worth watching
* [15:39] Maestro Linden: which packets, Skills?
* [15:39] Skills Hak: IM_TASK_INVENTORY_ACCEPTED
* [15:39] Skills Hak: declined etc
* [15:39] Latif Khalifa: ImprovedInstantMessage
* [15:40] Dante Tucker: There was not a few weeks ago when I got spammed with them skills.
* [15:40] Maestro Linden: ah. I think what happened is that an extra check was added to the simulator to see if the transaction was "real"
* [15:40] SHAMUS Carter: well i have to run
* [15:40] Skills Hak: ah easy fix then i hope
* [15:40] SHAMUS Carter: ill ceck the log
* [15:40] Maestro Linden: and not just an IM that didn't result from a transaction
* [15:41] Faust Vollmar: Sounds like that check is failing for every transaction that isnt purely within the sim itself?
* [15:41] Maestro Linden: but it looks like the check is overzealous, and blocks any accept/decline messages when the sender is in a different region than the recipient
* [15:41] Maestro Linden: that's what I think, Faust
* [15:42] Ovaltine Constantine: Im actually being spammed right now
* [15:42] Ovaltine Constantine: By messages that say "Cannot complete attachment. An attachment is pending for that spot. "
* [15:42] Damen Hax: stops working on buggy code & scrolls over meeting text
* [15:42] Ovaltine Constantine: Coming every 10 minutes
* [15:42] Ovaltine Constantine: 10 seconds*
* [15:43] Maestro Linden: odd, does that happen every time you login?
* [15:43] Ovaltine Constantine: No, just today
* [15:43] Latif Khalifa: that's asset server not being able to fetch object to be attached
* [15:44] SaZaN Senizen: That happens a lot in pooley tbh
* [15:44] SaZaN Senizen: this sim is like cursed
* [15:44] Oskar Linden: too many linden homes here
* [15:45] Oskar Linden: char is like the original griefer
* [15:45] SaZaN Senizen: :)
* [15:45] Oskar Linden: oh snap... my other machine just finished downloading the StarCraft 2 Beta for me
* [15:45] Damen Hax: lsl error i just had was due to server not seeing scripts in prims inventory, they are there
* [15:45] Oskar Linden: is not getting any more work done today
* [15:45] Noor Loam: LOL
* [15:46] Oskar Linden: did I just say that out loud
* [15:46] Faust Vollmar: Damn, I swear everyone but me got in to the beta.
* [15:46] Noor Loam: mhm
* [15:46] SaZaN Senizen: lol
* [15:46] Vaalith Jinn: is now so very jealous :o
* [15:47] Oskar Linden: I don't know about this...
* [15:47] Oskar Linden: it's like I waited too long for SC2
* [15:47] Oskar Linden: I was HUGE on the first one
* [15:47] Oskar Linden: and excited for this one
* [15:47] Sebastean Steamweaver: wonders if (a) Anything has been said about PRIM_NAME/PRIM_DESC for 1.40, and if we have 1.40 release notes :D
* [15:47] Oskar Linden: but the time it will take to get as good as I was...
* [15:47] Noor Loam: You gonna play SWtor too, Oskar>
* [15:47] Oskar Linden: I think it's fixed seb
* [15:47] Ovaltine Constantine: Yes let's talk about 1.40
* [15:47] Oskar Linden: we just did
* [15:47] Ovaltine Constantine: Or was it already talked about
* [15:47] Oskar Linden: for like 20 minutes
* [15:48] Xugu Madison: 1.42 ? :)
* [15:48] Oskar Linden: I'll send out the notes
* [15:48] Ovaltine Constantine: While I was on Aditi for 20 minutes?
* [15:48] Oskar Linden: aww
* [15:48] Oskar Linden: group hug on ovaltine!
* [15:48] Oskar Linden: grouphugs ovaltine
* [15:48] Faust Vollmar: wouldnt mind a full llGetLinkDesc so he doesnt need the list overhead but that might be asking too much.
* [15:48] Faust Vollmar: XD
* [15:48] Ovaltine Constantine: Aww you dont have to hug me
* [15:48] Ovaltine Constantine: Just repeat everything that was said
* [15:48] Oskar Linden: everything that was said
* [15:48] Oskar Linden: everything that was said
* [15:48] Oskar Linden: everything that was said
* [15:48] Oskar Linden: everything that was said
* [15:48] Oskar Linden: everything that was said
* [15:49] Oskar Linden: everything that was said
* [15:49] Faust Vollmar: *rimshot*
* [15:49] Oskar Linden: everything that was said
* [15:49] Sebastean Steamweaver: hits the stop button.
* [15:49] Ovaltine Constantine: Teehee
* [15:49] Charlene Trudeau: roflmao
* [15:49] Ovaltine Constantine: Now whats in 1.40
* [15:49] Damen Hax: reminds me.. i could build a filter for repeat spam on yahoo client.. why cant we do that here
* [15:49] Sebastean Steamweaver: I take it PRIM_NAME/DESC won't be?
* [15:49] Skills Hak: Mono 2.6.1 ?
* [15:49] Latif Khalifa: why do you think they won't?
* [15:50] Damen Hax: auto add to ban list.. wo0hoo
* [15:50] Oskar Linden: seb, there was a related bug fix that might be getting in
* [15:50] Oskar Linden: not 100% sure it's what you wanted
* [15:50] Maestro Linden: Mono 2.6.1 < nah not in 1.40. It'll be further down the road
* [15:51] Damen Hax: sure sometimes you need to fish someone out.. but worth it in the long run `0' ciao
* [15:51] Sebastean Steamweaver: Well, I think it was a feature rather than a bug fix. People wanted constants for the prim's name and description to use with llSetLinkPP.
* [15:51] Latif Khalifa: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5171
* [15:51] Latif Khalifa: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5170
* [15:52] Oskar Linden: looks like it might be in seb
* [15:52] Latif Khalifa: Kelly said those were done and waiting to be merged
* [15:52] Oskar Linden: we'll know next week k?
* [15:52] Sebastean Steamweaver: Sounds good
* [15:52] Gooden Uggla: maestro when does the debian upgrade start that allows the mono upgrade?
* [15:53] Oskar Linden: not for a couple months methinks
* [15:53] Gooden Uggla: kk
* [15:53] Maestro Linden: yeah, what oskar said
* [15:53] Faust Vollmar: Now if only we could get something else the framework is already set for... llGetInventoryHash. D=
* [15:53] Faust Vollmar: ducks from thrown foodstuffs.
* [15:54] Gooden Uggla: smokes the hash and ignores the foodfight
* [15:54] Latif Khalifa: is still preplexed about "need to update distro to install newer mono" thing
* [15:54] Oskar Linden: well 6 minutes left, anything else?
* [15:54] Ovaltine Constantine: Yes
* [15:54] Xugu Madison: Thinking of mono upgrades, performance increases, and too many scripts; as promised, free resizer HUD: https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=2275909 (based on Maestro Linden's sample script, if I remember correctly)
* [15:54] Ovaltine Constantine: Whats in 1.40
* [15:54] Oskar Linden: debian needs updates
* [15:54] Rex Cronon: it seems i got back just in time to see the ending. aaaahhh
* [15:54] Gooden Uggla: next question, did you have anything specific for us to test on the (now open) beta grid?
* [15:55] Oskar Linden: not right this week
* [15:55] Oskar Linden: come next week, yes. I will
* [15:55] Maestro Linden: Hm there's nothing special in the new version. It shouldln't blow up, is all. ;)
* [15:55] Oskar Linden: May should be an exciting month for beta testing
* [15:55] Oskar Linden: make sure you stick around
* [15:56] Drew Dwi: don't change that channel?
* [15:56] Faust Vollmar: Maestro: Even if I blow stuff up in it? =D
* [15:56] Oskar Linden: quietly closes the roof and locks you all into his office
* [15:56] Gooden Uggla: also based on maestro's script - without a HUD - https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linkset_resizer_with_menu
* [15:56] Maestro Linden: heh ok, that's the 1 exception =P
* [15:56] Maestro Linden: ^ oh yeah, that should have a nicer UI
* [15:56] Faust Vollmar: Is that one size clamped or does it just keep going?
* [15:57] Melfina Marshdevil: :O oskar disabled outgoing tps
* [15:57] Chalice Yao: !
* [15:57] Oskar Linden: :-o
* [15:57] Noor Loam: haha
* [15:57] Faust Vollmar: Hahah.
* [15:57] Xugu Madison: Nooooooo...
* [15:57] Rex Cronon: i have a question. there might be some people in AWGroupies that would be interested in havig sims brought to beta for testing, is ok if https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5755 is being mentioned there?
* [15:57] Chalice Yao: Ciao Oskar! :>
* [15:57] Oskar Linden: I will send out a message to a larger group
* [15:58] Oskar Linden: anyone from AWG who is interested in beta testing should be in the Second Life Beta group
* [15:58] Oskar Linden: if they're not... make em sign up
* [15:58] Vaalith Jinn: *waves*
* [15:58] Rex Cronon: u haven't advertised too much, so they might not know:)
* [15:59] Oskar Linden: I have advertised plenty
* [15:59] Xugu Madison: Seeya Oskar!
* [15:59] Rex Cronon: ok
* [15:59] Maestro Linden: alright guys, time for me to go too
* [15:59] Xugu Madison: Seeya Maestro, have fun both of ya!
* [15:59] Noor Loam: ok ILY all
* [15:59] Rex Cronon: tc maestro
* [15:59] Latif Khalifa: take care Mastro
* [15:59] Xugu Madison: Don't do anything I would
* [15:59] Maestro Linden: hah
* [15:59] Maestro Linden: you too
* [16:00] Moundsa Mayo: Thanks, Oskar, Maestro!
* [16:00] Faust Vollmar: Remember: Stuff blowing up spectacularly is *FUN*
* [16:00] Latif Khalifa: thanks for your time Oskar
* [16:00] Sebastean Steamweaver: Thanks for the office hours
* [16:00] Sebastean Steamweaver: Take care all - sorry I've been afk a lot
* [16:00] Faust Vollmar: Heh. Hoping to hear about those surprises sooner rather than later. =p
* [16:00] Rex Cronon: nice of u to make that announcement:)
* [16:00] Opensource Obscure: bye everybody !
* [16:01] Rex Cronon: tc os
* [16:01] Rex Cronon: tc everybody
* [16:01] Gooden Uggla: he said surprises next week
* [16:01] Rex Cronon: have fun:)
* [16:01] Oskar Linden: ok
* [16:01] Oskar Linden: meeting adjourned
* [16:01] Faust Vollmar: Oh yay, I musta missed it.
* [16:01] Oskar Linden: thanks for coming everyone
* [16:01] Melfina Marshdevil: np oskar
* [16:01] Melfina Marshdevil: nice place you got
* [16:01] Melfina Marshdevil: Lms it.
* [16:02] Faust Vollmar: Tc Oskar
* [16:02] Oskar Linden: promises to leave Pooley in peace
* [16:02] Oskar Linden: glad I got the chance to show off my little home
* [16:03] Melfina Marshdevil: its awesome
* [16:03] Moundsa Mayo: Can we crash here?
* [16:03] Melfina Marshdevil: heh
* [16:03] Oskar Linden: crash?
* [16:03] Oskar Linden: no
* [16:03] Oskar Linden: no crashing