Open Source Meeting/2009-06-18

* [14:01] Ann Otoole: i was able to get around 2k prims to rez in a couple seconds
* [14:01] Youri Ashton: hi rob!
* [14:02] Morgaine Dinova: Hi Rob!
* [14:02] Gordon Wendt: still about 40 sim fps, 86-96 dilation
* [14:02] Rob Linden: hi folks
* [14:02] Squirrel Wood: now observe the sim time dilation...
* [14:02] Gordon Wendt: you had one point where it spiked
* [14:02] Darv Linden: installs real quick...
* [14:03] Techwolf Lupindo: de-rezing killed the sim...
* [14:03] Latif Khalifa: yes i noticed that with 1.26 derezzing seems much more expensive than rezzing
* [14:03] Squirrel Wood: mono scripts
* [14:03] Latif Khalifa: which is kind of strange
* [14:03] Soft Linden: Heyyy hey
* [14:04] Latif Khalifa: hey soft
* [14:04] Aimee Trescothick: hey ho
* [14:04] Morgaine Dinova: Hey hey Soft :-)
* [14:04] Economic Core: Hi soft.
* [14:04] Morgaine Dinova: Hiya Darv :-)
* [14:04] Soft Linden: Economic Core. I like the name :3
* [14:04] Jesse Urvilan: yay soft nice tpo see you again ^_^
* [14:04] Squirrel Wood: as for group chat... in the past couple days I always get an error when group chat is opened due to someone posting something. I have to OK that message and manually open group chat in order to be abe to read it. Always tells me the session does not exist
* [14:05] Youri Ashton: hey soft!
* [14:05] Economic Core: hmm
* [14:05] Morgaine Dinova: Yeah Squirrel, that's happening a lot now.
* [14:05] Latif Khalifa: yeah group chat is broken more than usual :P
* [14:05] Economic Core: Let's see if voice works today.
* [14:05] Economic Core: Nope, brb, copying libraries again
* [14:05] Soft Linden: About two weeks now, yeah.
* [14:05] Rob Linden: so, as I mentioned on sldev, I'd like to make another test sprint out of this
* [14:06] Techwolf Lupindo: I put these up a while ago. it just a start, I hope to be able to get fasttimers for better testing.
* [14:06] Rob Linden: everyone got the latest buidl of Snowglobe?
* [14:06] Soft Linden: The sysinfra guys are banging pretty hard on the group issues right now, afaik
* [14:06] Youri Ashton: so far i know, yes
* [14:06] Latif Khalifa: does building it from svn count? :)
* [14:06] Twisted Laws: Snowglobe 1.0.0 (2435)
* [14:06] Ann Otoole: running 8 hours now
* [14:06] Gordon Wendt: will have it in a second, haven't had much reason to check out the wiki or the emails Rob since you keep beating me to the punch on updating the wiki page
* [14:06] Youri Ashton: Snowglobe 1.23.2 (2329) May 27 2009 23:02:50 (Second Life OSS)
* [14:06] Latif Khalifa: Ann, you didn't use world map did you?
* [14:06] Morgaine Dinova: Urgh. I chucked Snowglobe it because of the UI Size scaling crashes. But I can switch back.
* [14:07] Techwolf Lupindo: I need to update mine.
* [14:07] Rob Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowglobe_Test_Plans/Test_Pass_2
* [14:07] Gordon Wendt: got snowglobe to crash weirdly on the SL6B sims, that was fun
* [14:07] Morgaine Dinova: Coming back on Snowglobe
* [14:07] Rob Linden: Youri: you need to upgrade...you're using an old version from before we changed the numbering
* [14:07] Ann Otoole: world map? nothing wrong there. about 15 seconds to render the entire secondlife map
* [14:08] Techwolf Lupindo: I think I can download the binary fairly quck....
* [14:08] Youri Ashton: ow, okay, ill try to get that then
* [14:08] Youri Ashton: ill redo the smoke test
* [14:08] Techwolf Lupindo: Where is the lastest link at?
* [14:08] Tiny Blue: Kitty Head: All Go
* [14:08] Rob Linden: who wants to try out the Preview Smoke Test? https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Preview_Smoke_Test
* [14:08] Rob Linden: (let's try to make it different people on different plans this time)
* [14:08] Rob Linden: latest builds are linked to from here: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowglobe
* [14:09] Techwolf Lupindo: Only my avatar was here last time. I had RL issues to take care of.
* [14:09] Youri Ashton: im still trying to solve this one: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13747
* [14:09] Youri Ashton: about 25% is missing
* [14:09] Youri Ashton: hi poppy!
* [14:09] Ann Otoole: so far the only issues i have is being used to slowness and stuff happens real fast
* [14:09] Economic Core: Oh good, a Linux binary.
* [14:09] Rob Linden: k, folks....let's focus on the test sprint here
* [14:10] Rob Linden: any volunteers for this? 
* [14:10] Youri Ashton: thats the same one i am doing basicly
* [14:10] Morgaine Dinova: Well I have a 100% repo crash for it, no Jira. Change Prefs->General->UI Size to 0.850 and press Apply. Bang.
* [14:10] Youri Ashton: so ill take it
* [14:10] Morgaine Dinova: (Linux)
* [14:10] Youri Ashton: i do need help with it
* [14:11] Rob Linden: anyone want to help Youri out?
* [14:11] Aimee Trescothick: doesn't repo for me Morgaine
* [14:11] Boroondas Gupte: I'm still reading the wiki page about the test, but I think I can help Youri.
* [14:11] Youri Ashton: previous partner was Plilip Linden, unfortunately he was really busy and we did not finish it
* [14:11] Economic Core: Morgaine: I'll try to repro o Ubuntu once I download this
* [14:11] Morgaine Dinova: Aimee: must be the different libs on our systems them.
* [14:11] Saijanai Kuhn: doesn't repo for me either Morgaine
* [14:12] Rob Linden: like I said before....I'd like to get different people anyway. youri did that one last time
* [14:12] Multi Gadget: v1.57.1 by Timeless Prototype
* [14:12] Aimee Trescothick: which platform are you on at the mo?
* [14:12] Morgaine Dinova: I'm on Gentoo Linux, 32-bit
* [14:12] Rob Linden: it's really hard to get volunteers coordinated when y'all are talking over me
* [14:12] Aimee Trescothick: I'm on Mac
* [14:12] Youri Ashton: previously known as: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13747
* [14:12] Economic Core: revdep-rebuild Morgaine
* [14:12] Aimee Trescothick: sorry Rob
* [14:12] Gordon Wendt: I can do XP and/or mac whichever we need
* [14:12] Thickbrick Sleaford: I'm up for part of the preview smoke test
* [14:13] Gordon Wendt: damn, I was going to ask for that one :)
* [14:13] Rob Linden: k....so who do we have here...Gordon, Thickbrick and maybe Youri on this one?
* [14:13] Gordon Wendt: which one?
* [14:13] Morgaine Dinova: Economic: I'm on a fully "emerge'd --deep world" box, no revdep needed
* [14:13] Youri Ashton: its a very simple one, it can be finished in a few hours, IF we put the shoulders under it and work trough it
* [14:13] Rob Linden: let's have Gordon and Thickbrick divide and conquer on it
* [14:13] Rob Linden: just as much as you can get done in the remaining time
* [14:13] Ann Otoole: i'll help with the parts i can help with. if interested in how vista 64 quad core runs it
* [14:13] Gordon Wendt: can someone pop me the link again please? I lost the tab for it
* [14:14] Darv Linden: I can help with anything :)
* [14:14] Darv Linden: 
* [14:14] Gordon Wendt: thanks
* [14:14] Techwolf Lupindo: I just got the lastest binary running on 64-bit linux. Getting the "not meet minimum system" window, but toher then that, let me log in.
* [14:14] Morgaine Dinova: Rob: assign me to something that needs a Linux test
* [14:14] Rob Linden: how about https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User_Interface_Smoke_Test
* [14:14] Youri Ashton: trust me Rob, they can do that one within 2 hours
* [14:14] Ann Otoole: i have been through most of that functionality this morning with no issues at all
* [14:14] Thickbrick Sleaford: I'm stating at 1.1 on the Preview Smoke Test
* [14:14] Thickbrick Sleaford: Gordon, if you're starting too, you probably should start further down the list
* [14:15] Rob Linden: Morgaine: the ui tests are as good as anything ....wanna be one of the folks there?
* [14:15] Gordon Wendt: Login: Location, New Location is confirmed, I just did that after upgrading
* [14:15] Morgaine Dinova: Sure
* [14:15] Gordon Wendt: yeah I'll move down from there
* [14:15] Gordon Wendt: I'll start lower rather
* [14:15] ATechwolf Foxclaw: I'me here using snowglobe i686 LL build on linux.
* [14:15] Rob Linden: k....Preview folks (Thickbrick and Gordon), put your feedback hyere: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SNOW-35
* [14:16] Rob Linden: Morgaine: put your feedback on teh UI tests here: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SNOW-36
* [14:16] Morgaine Dinova: k
* [14:16] Aimee Trescothick: I'll hit the UI one with the Mac
* [14:16] Rob Linden: New functionality....we don't really have a map test plan taht found its way into the wild... bummer
* [14:16] Rob Linden: let's skip that and come back
* [14:16] Gordon Wendt: k
* [14:17] Rob Linden: newbie tests: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Newbie_Test
* [14:17] Rob Linden: volunteers?
* [14:17] Saijanai Kuhn: I'll run them later on with xp bootstrap.
* [14:17] Youri Ashton: ill take it
* [14:17] Rob Linden: k....thanks Youri
* [14:17] Gordon Wendt: Thickbrick, I'm updating the description with the different testing sections so we can just put our results under that and easily edit them
* [14:17] Youri Ashton: ill start after meeting
* [14:17] Gordon Wendt: on the JIRA issue
* [14:18] Merov Linden: Rob: I could post the map test plan to the public wiki in a jiffy
* [14:18] Rob Linden: Youri: put your feedback here: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SNOW-38
* [14:18] Merov Linden: wouldn't be a bad idea anyway...
* [14:18] Youri Ashton: ow hi merov!
* [14:18] Thickbrick Sleaford: eek, fullscreen makes the chat fonts go ugly.
* [14:18] Rob Linden: Merov: that would be wonderful
* [14:18] Morgaine Dinova: Rob: what's a good example to use for formatting of results?
* [14:18] Merov Linden: goes do that...
* [14:18] Saijanai Kuhn: I have that problem in XP at any resolution I think, Thickbrick
* [14:19] Gordon Wendt: thickbrick, what system you running?
* [14:19] Rob Linden: Morgaine: Melinda set a pretty good example last go around...I'll try to find her results
* [14:19] Thickbrick Sleaford: /
* [14:19] Morgaine Dinova: Thanks :-)
* [14:19] Thickbrick Sleaford: Grodon: Linux (debian unstable)
* [14:19] Rob Linden: Morgaine: look at what Melinda did here: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13748
* [14:19] Morgaine Dinova: Coolness
* [14:20] Rob Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Building_Tools_Test -- volunteers?
* [14:20] Boroondas Gupte: brb
* [14:20] Twisted Laws: i'll do that
* [14:20] Rob Linden: Twisted: great! feedback here: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SNOW-40
* [14:20] Twisted Laws: oks
* [14:20] Ann Otoole: already did most of that before this meeting
* [14:21] Youri Ashton: think ill start on testing, have fun all!
* [14:21] Aimee Trescothick: shouts: This is a test shout!
* [14:21] Saijanai Kuhn: Unable to start session with Scripters of Second Life. The session no longer exists... x2
* [14:21] Rob Linden: so, who wants to do map testing once Merov gets the plan put up?
* [14:21] Ann Otoole: i'll map
* [14:21] Thickbrick Sleaford: huh, Ignore what I said about font rendering, I had fullcreen set to 800x600...
* [14:21] Squirrel Wood: sai, open the chat manually
* [14:22] Saijanai Kuhn: K
* [14:22] Rob Linden: thanks Ann: feedback here: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SNOW-37
* [14:22] Aimee Trescothick: Eep! o.O
* [14:22] Rob Linden: while you're waiting, just try to break it
* [14:22] Ann Otoole: my pleasure :P
* [14:22] Rob Linden: so, for the rest of you:
* [14:22] Rob Linden: take a look here: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowglobe_Test_Plans/Test_Pass_2
* [14:22] Merov Linden: Rob and all: map test plan posted: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowglobe_Map_Test_Plan
* [14:22] Tiny Blue: Kitty Head: All Go
* [14:22] Ann Otoole: on it
* [14:23] Rob Linden: let's start doing free for all volunteering now...123 go
* [14:23] Morgaine Dinova: Hehe, crash on very first UI test. Doing control with 1.23 final
* [14:23] Saijanai Kuhn: restarting in xp to test snowglobe
* [14:24] Rob Linden: if we have some duplication, that's ok....let's do coordination and figure out how to reduce duplication of effort
* [14:25] Gordon Wendt: commencing mouselook
* [14:25] Gordon Wendt: Rob, can I use you as user B for that?
* [14:25] Latif Khalifa: is there a jira about screen going black after changing resolution?
* [14:25] Latif Khalifa: i can't see lol
* [14:25] Rob Linden: Gordon...sure
* [14:25] Rob Linden: what would you like to try?
* [14:25] ATechwolf Foxclaw: Free snowglobe user here.
* [14:25] Soft Linden: Latif - which OS were you on?
* [14:25] Soft Linden: (Ha. As if you can read...)
* [14:25] Gordon Wendt: 
* [14:25] Rob Linden: actually....Gordon, could you work with ATechwolf Foxclaw?
* [14:26] Gordon Wendt: sure
* [14:26] Latif Khalifa: Soft, vista64, works fine otherwise
* [14:26] Rob Linden: who I'm sure is a compltely different person than Techwolf Lupindo
* [14:26] Rob Linden: :)
* [14:26] ATechwolf Foxclaw: heheh.
* [14:26] Latif Khalifa: the only thing i see is water relfecion, otherwise pitch black screen
* [14:27] Gordon Wendt: I have my own alt on on my mac but I'd rather have him be a silent partner for tests I can do without him being here
* [14:27] ATechwolf Foxclaw: Different user on the machine also, so it truly seperate and no interactions with the first instance.
* [14:27] Gordon Wendt: Tech, is what I'm going to try
* [14:27] Gordon Wendt: pretty much confirm that you hear a splat when I shoot you and see the text when I type it when I'm in mouselook
* [14:28] Tiny Blue: Kitty Head: All Go
* [14:28] Gordon Wendt: hearing the splat and seeing this text?
* [14:28] ATechwolf Foxclaw: yep
* [14:28] Gordon Wendt: ok brb, have to teleport to another sim to make sure popgun is still attached
* [14:29] Gordon Wendt: if the map ever loads
* [14:29] Rob Linden: anyone still waiting to figure out what to do?
* [14:29] Boroondas Gupte: yeah, me
* [14:29] Aimee Trescothick: bang, hmm, how did I do that
* [14:29] Morgaine Dinova: Wow, nice crashes ;-)
* [14:29] Gordon Wendt: what's Lindenworld, it's the closest set of sims to here but no access it seems
* [14:30] Rob Linden: Boorondas: could you help out Youri with https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Newbie_Test ?
* [14:30] Boroondas Gupte: ok
* [14:30] Soft Linden: Lindenworld is where we hold a lot of internal meetings
* [14:30] Gordon Wendt: ahhh
* [14:30] Rob Linden: Boroondas: feedback goes here: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SNOW-38
* [14:30] Soft Linden: A lot of the teams even hang out there in clusters while they work
* [14:30] Gordon Wendt: can't do that then since all nearby sims are access restricted
* [14:30] Gordon Wendt: their either internal workspaces or LL internal sims
* [14:31] Boroondas Gupte: goes to create a new account
* [14:31] Darv Linden: Gordon - TP home anywhere?
* [14:31] Darv Linden: Probably would be good enough
* [14:31] Darv Linden: * home / anywhere
* [14:32] Gordon Wendt: that worked
* [14:32] Morgaine Dinova: Well that was interesting. At least I have something to write up :P
* [14:32] ATechwolf Foxclaw: I just got the "Unalbe to start group chat" error. So we know is affecting snowglobe. LOL
* [14:32] Rob Linden: anyone else waiting for something to work on?
* [14:32] Thickbrick Sleaford: anybody wants to help me test Physics & Push, Bumps & Hits
* [14:32] Thickbrick Sleaford: it's a 2 users test
* [14:32] Soft Linden: Thickbrick - Sure
* [14:33] Thickbrick Sleaford: ok
* [14:33] Thickbrick Sleaford: Soft, under preview smoke test
* [14:33] Soft Linden: jas, winding back through a million browser tabs
* [14:34] Rob Linden: let's see here: ti was Thickbrick and Gordon working on the preview smoke tests, right?
* [14:34] ATechwolf Foxclaw: heh, I was doing that a while ago, so much chat and info at once. heheh
* [14:34] Merov Linden: screwed up his own snowglobe Mac build and might need to relaunch...
* [14:34] Thickbrick Sleaford: heh
* [14:34] Twisted Laws: i got a a fail on Build tools ... EditLinkedParts-AllSelected - this test fails on scaling object (step 4) parts do not scale properly when edit linked parts is set.
* [14:34] Gordon Wendt: Yep, we're each bumping our ways around the list
* [14:34] Thickbrick Sleaford: soft, do you have me in your Bumps and Pushes list?
* [14:35] Soft Linden: Not so far!
* [14:35] Thickbrick Sleaford: heh, that's a fun test
* [14:35] Gordon Wendt: Rob, Thickbrick is running a Linux varient and I'm testing on XP and where I'm able to also on Mac
* [14:35] Soft Linden: Not positive if this works on a no-pushing parcel
* [14:35] Thickbrick Sleaford: hmm
* [14:36] Rob Linden: looks up who the UI test volunteer(s) wer
* [14:37] Aimee Trescothick: raises a hand
* [14:37] Darv Linden: Morgaine too, I think
* [14:37] Aimee Trescothick: yes
* [14:37] Tiny Blue: Kitty Head: All Go
* [14:37] Soft Linden: Try dragging that into me again?
* [14:37] Rob Linden: ah, right
* [14:37] Rob Linden: anyone want to help her out?
* [14:37] Darv Linden: Apparently the first one crashed her :P
* [14:37] Saijanai Kuhn: had 2 crashes at startup using snowglobe. Same as with RC: crashed in middle of first session. Crash log wouldn't send
* [14:37] Soft Linden: Hmm! That still doesn't show in 1.23
* [14:37] Soft Linden: That was set physical?
* [14:38] Saijanai Kuhn: addec -set NoHardwareProbe 1 to the shortcut and then it crashed due to the firewall blocking SLVOice
* [14:38] Saijanai Kuhn: 4rd time it ran
* [14:38] Thickbrick Sleaford: ok
* [14:38] Latif Khalifa: Sai, that's how you get very low crash rate in "objective data" :)
* [14:38] Merov Linden: "4rd"! How do you pronounce that Saijanai?
* [14:38] Thickbrick Sleaford: weird
* [14:38] Rob Linden: oh, Aimee volunteered on the UI a long time ago...just seeing that in the log
* [14:39] Aimee Trescothick: yup
* [14:39] Thickbrick Sleaford: I know that dialog used to work for bullets in RP sims where push was disabled
* [14:39] Thickbrick Sleaford: not sure
* [14:39] Saijanai Kuhn: sigh ja-nigh
* [14:39] Thickbrick Sleaford: ok
* [14:39] Thickbrick Sleaford: try to hit me?
* [14:41] Aimee Trescothick: 
* [14:41] Gordon Wendt: Landmark done
* [14:42] ATechwolf Foxclaw: Need an anvel in the liberary.
* [14:42] Gordon Wendt: Thickbrick him, AR him then :)
* [14:43] Gordon Wendt: Thickbrick, I think we've done Fullscreen, mouselook, location, landmark and now pushes right?
* [14:43] Boroondas Gupte: ok, ... for the newbie A/B testing ... who of you is Youri Ashton's new account?
* [14:43] Mojito Sorbet: Ha, all this time I have a bow and arrow here.
* [14:43] Gordon Wendt: May be easiest for us to coordinate if we keep a running list in the JIRA description of what's done and not done
* [14:43] Gordon Wendt: I'll copy that over
* [14:44] Rob Linden: Gordon: easiest thing to do is to keep updating the comments
* [14:44] Saijanai Kuhn: tex appears to be wacky on xp-mac in every resolution I've tried so far
* [14:44] Gordon Wendt: we're doing that too but it doesn't give us a quick glance
* [14:44] Saijanai Kuhn: but that shows up in RC as well
* [14:44] Rob Linden: with a lot of people simultaniously accessing, it's going to be tough to do anything else in real time
* [14:44] Rob Linden: we can clean up afterward
* [14:45] Thickbrick Sleaford: Gordon: i'm editing my original comment on the jira wioth the tests i finish
* [14:45] Gordon Wendt: oh, that works too, I've been just adding more comments which is probably making it more confusing
* [14:46] Rob Linden: that's a cool approach Thickbrick
* [14:46] Gordon Wendt: I'm going to steal your idea thickbrick
* [14:47] Darv Linden: Poor Rob's getting inundated with JIRA e-mails :p
* [14:47] Thickbrick Sleaford: lol
* [14:48] Tiny Blue: Kitty Head: All Go
* [14:49] Rob Linden: Youri: you around?
* [14:50] Rob Linden: bzzt
* [14:50] Rob Linden: ok
* [14:50] ATechwolf Foxclaw: I am.
* [14:50] Tiny Blue: Kitty Head: All Go
* [14:50] Object: Hello,: Avatar!
* [14:50] Latif Khalifa: ah finally a full repro for the two permissions bugs
* [14:51] Gordon Wendt: everyone here that lets get out of here sound?
* [14:51] Gordon Wendt: *hear
* [14:51] Saijanai Kuhn: heard
* [14:51] Gordon Wendt: ok good, that's a pass then
* [14:51] Latif Khalifa: "lets get out of here"?
* [14:51] Gordon Wendt: yep
* [14:51] ATechwolf Foxclaw: I heared sound. don't know if that was you
* [14:51] Latif Khalifa: no i didn't :P
* [14:51] Latif Khalifa: hahaha
* [14:51] Gordon Wendt: seems to be laggy doing play in world
* [14:51] Gordon Wendt: a couple of seconds from hitting the button to actual play
* [14:52] Tiny Blue: Kitty Head: All Go
* [14:52] Soft Linden: Even on subsequent plays, once's it's cached?
* [14:52] Latif Khalifa: that would indicate cache bug
* [14:52] ATechwolf Foxclaw: play that sound again.
* [14:52] Gordon Wendt: not happening now
* [14:52] Merov Linden: heard it, the very first one was very "echo-y"
* [14:52] Gordon Wendt: at least for me
* [14:52] Rob Linden: yeah, it was echoy
* [14:52] Gordon Wendt: I did a few presses of it
* [14:53] Gordon Wendt: hmm, I'll put it in the notes at least
* [14:53] Saijanai Kuhn: anyone hear tongue-twister japanese?
* [14:53] ATechwolf Foxclaw: forget he can't hear sound....hears the sounds for Techwolf Lupindo instead. LOL
* [14:53] Morgaine Dinova: Don't think I've ever crashed so often in an hour :P
* [14:53] Merov Linden: yeap
* [14:54] Merov Linden: would get his tongue twisted with much less japanese then that
* [14:54] Darv Linden: Robla5, you're persistently a cloud?
* [14:54] ATechwolf Foxclaw: same here. robla5 is a claud
* [14:55] robla5 Tester: I've got some pretty low framerate here.....sorry for the bounding around
* [14:55] Saijanai Kuhn: in hand, the hold world he held. The man. The Pirate King. Gold Roger
* [14:55] Saijanai Kuhn: whole*
* [14:55] Thickbrick Sleaford: so... I know group invites work - so I think I'll skip creating a new group
* [14:55] Gordon Wendt: robla 5 looks human to me but is inside of a wall
* [14:56] ATechwolf Foxclaw: 30 to 60 fps just spinning around here now.
* [14:56] Mm Alder: My log just went crazy with messages LLViewerJointMesh::drawShape: Layerset without composite
* [14:57] robla5 Tester: it probably took a while for my new av to bake
* [14:57] ATechwolf Foxclaw: i've changed to Ultra and FSAA 4x. Getting 3.3fps now.
* [14:57] robla5 Tester: ...since I've got nuthin cached here
* [14:57] Boroondas Gupte: ic
* [14:57] Gordon Wendt: anyone else getting llFunctorRegistry console errors?
* [14:58] Saijanai Kuhn: will the automatically show up or do I have to set something?
* [14:58] ATechwolf Foxclaw: relogging, fps is still at 3.2fps
* [14:58] Darv Linden: Gordon - nope
* [14:59] Gordon Wendt: llViewerImage: :setLoadedCallback: No aux data available for callback for image....
* [14:59] Gordon Wendt: this is why I never keep the consoles open, out of sight out of mind with all the warnings
* [15:00] Morgaine Dinova: Nice time reminder :-)
* [15:00] ATechwolf Foxclaw: Hmm...35-45 with a spike down to 22 on Ultra 4X
* [15:01] Zai Lynch: since the meeting seems to be kinda finished... can someone point me to the latest linux nightly build? (not snowglobe...). need to verify a translation (or better: the lack of it)...
* [15:01] Rob Linden: hey folks...thanks for coming...I'll still be around for a bit helping folks wrap up
* [15:01] Morgaine Dinova: Rob: heading to another meeting now, will write up Jira right after it.
* [15:02] Aimee Trescothick: woah, that hour went quick :D
* [15:02] Rob Linden: I'm working with Boroondas on the new user tests
* [15:02] Saijanai Kuhn: when I change resolution to max things out, that's what I see
* [15:02] Thickbrick Sleaford: mlange visait recrer entran faon "espaolito" travs alctona Vrfrukyrkan i Sknninge r en lgico e a emoo deduo zosta osadzony w wizieniu rozpocza praktyk lekarsk Ausma der Rotfrbung geschtzter .
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* [15:03] Gordon Wendt: woah
* [15:03] Soft Linden: More tongues than a hydra, that.
* [15:03] Morgaine Dinova: lol
* [15:03] Gordon Wendt: french, japanese, spanish, nordic of some variety, german, russian
* [15:03] Soft Linden: Look out! It's a Latvian Gaelic Greek Soviet Vampire!
* [15:03] Gordon Wendt: unless I"m wrong
* [15:03] Gordon Wendt: Thickbrick, what is that?
* [15:04] Saijanai Kuhn: attachments appear. normal avie textures appear to be ghost-ruthed
* [15:04] ATechwolf Foxclaw: Rendered ok here.
* [15:04] Thickbrick Sleaford: no idea, Chat & IM test
* [15:04] ATechwolf Foxclaw: Thichbrick post that is.
* [15:04] Thickbrick Sleaford: thanks ATech
* [15:05] Saijanai Kuhn: turn off anti-aliasing and everyone looks normal again
* [15:06] Gordon Wendt: can anyone else see two cubes on me right arm and left leg?
* [15:06] Thickbrick Sleaford: yes
* [15:06] Saijanai Kuhn: yup
* [15:06] Gordon Wendt: ok, thanks
* [15:06] Morgaine Dinova: Yes
* [15:06] Saijanai Kuhn: group invite works ;-)
* [15:07] Morgaine Dinova: That's not a proper noob test. The boxes are supposed to be on your head. ;-)
* [15:07] Gordon Wendt: doing attachment tests
* [15:08] Boroondas Gupte: Also, head head hasn't been the default attachment point for newly worn objects for quite some while now ...
* [15:08] Morgaine Dinova: Bye all, heading to meeting, writing up Jira afterwards
* [15:08] Morgaine Dinova: waves
* [15:09] Thickbrick Sleaford: group IM fails, but that's not new...
* [15:09] Gordon Wendt: so many JIRA updates
* [15:09] Gordon Wendt: each one = 1 email for those of us subscribed to the email list for all the jira changes
* [15:11] robla5 Tester: there we go....am I a proper newbie now?
* [15:11] Soft Linden: Much better
* [15:11] Gordon Wendt: now you are since you're getting shot at
* [15:11] robla5 Tester: ossm
* [15:12] ATechwolf Foxclaw: Ok. I was just in another window. I came back and screen went black, but I discover what cause it, my camers is pointing at black. I'me trying to flycam to see where it went too.
* [15:13] ATechwolf Foxclaw: Ok. My camera is above ground, it was below groud. But now it like tring to fly a telescope.
* [15:13] ATechwolf Foxclaw: FOV is at 5-10 dgrees...
* [15:14] Gordon Wendt: wishes he had a watermelon gun to hit robla5 with
* [15:14] ATechwolf Foxclaw: Hmm...I need to try a repro later on.
* [15:15] robla5 Tester: brb
* [15:15] Saijanai Kuhn: tail never got texture
* [15:15] Saijanai Kuhn: there it goes
* [15:15] Gordon Wendt: there we go :)
* [15:15] Thickbrick Sleaford: did robla5 just explode?
* [15:15] Gordon Wendt: fireball
* [15:15] Saijanai Kuhn: don't go away mad...
* [15:15] Gordon Wendt: he said he wanted the newbie experience
* [15:16] Soft Linden: Nobody's caged the noobie yet. Still not a proper introduction.
* [15:16] Thickbrick Sleaford: it was a lagball for me - particles seem to be as bad for fps as in the old days
* [15:16] Gordon Wendt: don't have one, anyone else have a cage
* [15:16] Gordon Wendt: or even better a bunch of giant phalusses
* [15:16] Soft Linden: Lookin' good, Saijanai!
* [15:16] Saijanai Kuhn: still waiting for rez
* [15:17] Saijanai Kuhn: just see squiggles
* [15:17] Saijanai Kuhn: there we go
* [15:17] Darv Linden: I just see squiggles as well
* [15:17] Gordon Wendt: I've heard of a cube farm but a sculpty cube farm?
* [15:17] Darv Linden: Ah, there we go
* [15:17] Saijanai Kuhn: 1 oblong sculpty
* [15:17] Saijanai Kuhn: want to see custom collision with that when they get it working ;-)
* [15:18] Thickbrick Sleaford: anybody can test if if they can rez an object I give them?
* [15:18] Soft Linden: Ban, that just does the wildest things at different LODs
* [15:19] robla5 Tester: ossm.....I feel loved
* [15:19] Gordon Wendt: there ya go, cancelled the fireball
* [15:19] Saijanai Kuhn: ok, was mousing in and out to change LOD and crashed
* [15:19] Saijanai Kuhn: and partial cloud ruth back
* [15:21] Saijanai Kuhn: its like a combo of cloud ruth and avatar imposters
* [15:21] Saijanai Kuhn: with nice glowing affect
* [15:21] Rob Linden: am I taller now?
* [15:21] Saijanai Kuhn: you're still a blob sitting on the bench, Rob
* [15:22] Gordon Wendt: and that's different than his usual av how?
* [15:22] Gordon Wendt: :)
* [15:22] robla5 Tester: oops...should asked over here
* [15:22] robla5 Tester: going short now....
* [15:22] Saijanai Kuhn: ah crash didn't save last grpahics settings. Reset antialias and everything is normal
* [15:23] Saijanai Kuhn: snow genesus is permanent cloud?
* [15:24] Snow Genesis: am I?
* [15:24] Object: Hello,: Avatar!
* [15:24] Object: Touched.: 
* [15:24] robla5 Tester: looks for Snow
* [15:24] Dirk Talamasca: You are a cloud to me Snow
* [15:24] ATechwolf Foxclaw: snow is a claud to me
* [15:24] Snow Genesis: /wave
* [15:24] Snow Genesis: oh, guess I have to activate gestures, first :-/
* [15:25] robla5 Tester: howdy
* [15:25] Snow Genesis: :-)
* [15:25] robla5 Tester: still a cloud to me
* [15:25] Gordon Wendt: same here, snow is cloudy
* [15:25] robla5 Tester: that's probably not a big surprise....seems like new avs take a little while here
* [15:25] robla5 Tester: that's what happened with mine
* [15:25] Gordon Wendt: some things seem to stall the loading process too
* [15:26] Snow Genesis: ok ... why doesn't my inventory find anything when searching for "(WORN)"?
* [15:26] robla5 Tester: I don't know how it compares to 1.23 though
* [15:26] ATechwolf Foxclaw: Mine says "searching..."
* [15:26] Gordon Wendt: Snow, because at least on the official viewe rthere's no setup for filtering worn islands, despite the fact that it has been done easily by third party viewers and is widely requested
* [15:26] Snow Genesis: (I think I should be wearing the Musician Female default avatar)
* [15:26] ATechwolf Foxclaw: but it did finished.
* [15:26] Gordon Wendt: warn items not islands :)
* [15:27] Saijanai Kuhn: interesting scaled ant now back to normal size . ANyone see a sim-sized ant
* [15:27] robla5 Tester: searching for "worn" works for me
* [15:27] Gordon Wendt: spoke too soon, I've never seen that before this viewer
* [15:27] Gordon Wendt: works for me too
* [15:28] robla5 Tester: it took a second or so for me to see my inventory, though. i think I had to click on "REcent Items" to get it to work
* [15:28] ATechwolf Foxclaw: recent items triggers a inventory download.
* [15:28] Saijanai Kuhn: crashed while trying to edit that ant
* [15:28] Snow Genesis: it just matches the identifier after the name ... that feature's been there in the released client since ... well, quite a long time ...
* [15:29] robla5 Tester: this is interesting. I'll bet Snow's viewer hasn't uploaded an avatar bake yet...
* [15:29] robla5 Tester: anyone seeing Snow as anything other than a cloud yet?
* [15:29] Gordon Wendt: am I rezzing in my new av?
* [15:29] Gordon Wendt: nope, still a cloud to me
* [15:29] Thickbrick Sleaford: gordon, I see a troll
* [15:29] ATechwolf Foxclaw: I see claud
* [15:29] ATechwolf Foxclaw: I see snow as a cloud
* [15:30] Gordon Wendt: so do I, only clickable surface on him is his nametag
* [15:30] Thickbrick Sleaford: (I was referring to seeing GRodon, not Snow)
* [15:30] robla5 Tester: hmm...I think there's probably a bug we need to look into. not a blocker for 1.0, but sure looks like something
* [15:30] Thickbrick Sleaford: Snow is a cloud here too
* [15:31] Gordon Wendt: I should take a picture of myself and send it to Prok with a note saying "you were right, I am a troll" :)
* [15:31] Dirk Talamasca: LOLOLOL
* [15:31] Snow Genesis: searching for "active" successfully finds the gesture I've activated ... so ... I'm gessing it can't bake anything because I'm not wearing it? (I see myself as https://join.secondlife.com/_img/newAvs/music-f.jpg)
* [15:31] Gordon Wendt: Snow, do you have anything attached?
* [15:32] Thickbrick Sleaford: hmm, so maybe the SNOW-8 did have a part that is specific to new users
* [15:32] Saijanai Kuhn: now editing does NOT crash
* [15:32] Thickbrick Sleaford: MichelleZ said she had problems with attachments too as part of that, but I haven't seen anybody reproduce that part
* [15:32] Rob Linden: well, I should probably get going here. hopefully we can get another RC out today, and make it the final one.
* [15:33] Saijanai Kuhn: hey tiny
* [15:33] Rob Linden: thanks everyone....make sure to send mail to sldev@ if you think you find a showstopper
* [15:33] Snow Genesis: according to menu Edit > Detach Objcet > ... I'm wearing attachments on Skull and Left and Right Foot. According to my inventory window, I'm not wearing anything.
* [15:33] Thickbrick Sleaford: attack of the Really Big Ant
* [15:33] Rob Linden: bye all!
* [15:33] Gordon Wendt: see you later Rob
* [15:33] Thickbrick Sleaford: see you
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