Community Translation User Group/24-Mar-2011

== Summary ==
* New meeting time for CT user group is Thursday, 12PM - 1PM
* Meetings will be weekly (as long as needed), then every other Thursday
* Rand is preparing a wiki page with workflow information for the KB translations
* Community platform is being prepared for the translation project
* Open spanish JIRA issues are being looked at
* Terms of Service can not be localized
== Transcript ==
* [2011/03/24 13:58] Irene Muni: Hi Torben :)
* [2011/03/24 13:58] Torben (torben.trautman): yay, I was faster than you Lexie :)
* [2011/03/24 13:58] Irene Muni: Hi Lexie :)
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Lexie (lexie.linden): lol
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Irene Muni: Hi all
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Torben (torben.trautman): hi Irene :)
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Torben (torben.trautman): hi all
* [2011/03/24 13:59] BlckCobra Shikami: Hello everyone
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Lexie (lexie.linden): Hi 
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh): hi torben, youri, lexie
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Torben Trautman: Surfaqua Oh is talking to you
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh): hi blckcobra
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh): coucou ourasi
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Ourasi Ferraris: HELLO BONJOUR HOLA BUONGIORNO GUTEN TAG 
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: lexie!!!!! you did come! :)
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Lexie (lexie.linden): hah yes
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: nice suprise!
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Lexie (lexie.linden): I miss all of you
* [2011/03/24 13:59] BlckCobra Shikami: Nice to see you again Lexi
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Lexie (lexie.linden): Its been wayyyy too long
* [2011/03/24 13:59] Irene Muni: :)
* [2011/03/24 14:00] : (boroondas.gupte): Let's see how this goes ... concurrently in another meething on 3rd rock grid.
* [2011/03/24 14:00] Lexie (lexie.linden): afk a minute
* [2011/03/24 14:00] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: good to see all of you again :)
* [2011/03/24 14:00] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: hb lexie :)
* [2011/03/24 14:01] link Kiranov: bonsoir Irene
* [2011/03/24 14:01] Ourasi Ferraris: Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes Yes !
* [2011/03/24 14:01] Ourasi Ferraris: me too :)
* [2011/03/24 14:01] Irene Muni: Where is Noelle and the baby? XD
* [2011/03/24 14:01] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: hey again rand :)
* [2011/03/24 14:01] link Kiranov: bonsoir a toutes et tous !! hello hello everybody !!!
* [2011/03/24 14:01] Rand (rand.linden): Hi Youri
* [2011/03/24 14:01] Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh): hi rand
* [2011/03/24 14:01] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: there is noelle
* [2011/03/24 14:01] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: lol
* [2011/03/24 14:01] Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh): bonjour noelle
* [2011/03/24 14:01] Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh): hi cummere
* [2011/03/24 14:01] Irene Muni: Welcome Noelle
* [2011/03/24 14:01] Irene Muni: Rewelcome LOL
* [2011/03/24 14:02] link Kiranov: hello Lexie hello Noelle hello Youri, Hello Ourasi
* [2011/03/24 14:02] Ourasi Ferraris: 
* [2011/03/24 14:02] Ourasi Ferraris: salut Noelle
* [2011/03/24 14:02] Rand (rand.linden): Hey Noelle, so this area is not open to Resis...
* [2011/03/24 14:02] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: great to have you back noelle :)
* [2011/03/24 14:02] Rand (rand.linden): they have to be TPed here
* [2011/03/24 14:02] Noelle Linden: hi everybody!!!
* [2011/03/24 14:02] Rand (rand.linden): God TPed
* [2011/03/24 14:02] Noelle Linden: so nice to see you!
* [2011/03/24 14:02] Rand (rand.linden): Is that what you intend?
* [2011/03/24 14:02] Lexie (lexie.linden): Hi Noelle and Rand 
* [2011/03/24 14:02] Rand (rand.linden): Heya
* [2011/03/24 14:02] Irene Muni: Is there cake Noelle? :)
* [2011/03/24 14:02] Ourasi Ferraris: hi Rand
* [2011/03/24 14:02] Noelle Linden: hi!!!
* [2011/03/24 14:03] BlckCobra Shikami: Hello Rand
* [2011/03/24 14:03] BlckCobra Shikami: Hiya Noelle
* [2011/03/24 14:03] Noelle Linden: I did not bring any (I am on a diet ;-)
* [2011/03/24 14:03] Irene Muni: LOL
* [2011/03/24 14:03] link Kiranov: hello BlckCobra !
* [2011/03/24 14:03] BlckCobra Shikami: no cookies????
* [2011/03/24 14:03] Irene Muni: Your diet is your baby :)
* [2011/03/24 14:03] Noelle Linden: how is everybody?
* [2011/03/24 14:03] BlckCobra Shikami: pfffft
* [2011/03/24 14:03] Cummere Mayo: hi noelle may i request a change of venue? this usergroup has vast implications even for us non translators
* [2011/03/24 14:03] Torben (torben.trautman): I guess we were supposed to bring the cake but forgot...
* [2011/03/24 14:04] Noelle Linden: eh eh
* [2011/03/24 14:04] Ourasi Ferraris: argh Torben ^^
* [2011/03/24 14:04] Torben (torben.trautman): quel malheur :(
* [2011/03/24 14:04] Noelle Linden: how is the time of the meeting for everybody?
* [2011/03/24 14:04] Torben (torben.trautman): HORRIBLE
* [2011/03/24 14:05] Noelle Linden: I know it's pretty late in Europe
* [2011/03/24 14:05] : (boroondas.gupte): ?
* [2011/03/24 14:05] Irene Muni: 22:04 in Europe continental
* [2011/03/24 14:05] BlckCobra Shikami: horrible late
* [2011/03/24 14:05] Irene Muni: Late :)
* [2011/03/24 14:05] Torben (torben.trautman): next week it will be 11pm until midnight
* [2011/03/24 14:05] Noelle Linden: which countries are here, except France, Spain, Germany?
* [2011/03/24 14:05] link Kiranov: 22 h in switzerland
* [2011/03/24 14:05] BlckCobra Shikami: yep, summertime is about to come ineurope
* [2011/03/24 14:05] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: Dutch
* [2011/03/24 14:05] Noelle Linden: yep
* [2011/03/24 14:05] Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh): Switzerland
* [2011/03/24 14:05] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: oh reminds me
* [2011/03/24 14:05] Ourasi Ferraris: next week?
* [2011/03/24 14:06] Noelle Linden: ok so all Europe
* [2011/03/24 14:06] Ourasi Ferraris: deja?
* [2011/03/24 14:06] Cummere Mayo: Us here but meeting time isnt critical for me
* [2011/03/24 14:06] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: as i am alone for my language, i may have found a new translator for the dutch team, WITH experience
* [2011/03/24 14:06] : (boroondas.gupte): and Switzerland again (I feel we're over-represented)
* [2011/03/24 14:06] Lexie (lexie.linden): Sounds like we need an earlier meeting?
* [2011/03/24 14:06] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: we can not do much, but at least a start
* [2011/03/24 14:06] BlckCobra Shikami: yes please
* [2011/03/24 14:06] Noelle Linden: it sounds like it yes
* [2011/03/24 14:06] Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh): yess boroondas
* [2011/03/24 14:06] Torben (torben.trautman): 12 to 1 would be sweet
* [2011/03/24 14:06] Irene Muni: Yes please
* [2011/03/24 14:06] Torben (torben.trautman): before the community tools
* [2011/03/24 14:06] BlckCobra Shikami: yep, 12 to 1
* [2011/03/24 14:06] Noelle Linden: I can make it at 12, what about the others?
* [2011/03/24 14:07] Ourasi Ferraris: Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes Yes !
* [2011/03/24 14:07] Irene Muni: OK for me
* [2011/03/24 14:07] Irene Muni: and for Spain :)
* [2011/03/24 14:07] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: another time may be handy yeah
* [2011/03/24 14:07] BlckCobra Shikami: 10 points for spain :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:07] : (boroondas.gupte): I actually prefer the late time, so it won't collide with day-time stuff.
* [2011/03/24 14:07] link Kiranov: ahh Samia ^^ je cherchais a te tp
* [2011/03/24 14:07] Cummere Mayo: times not important for me... im here because im in snowstorm and in some mentor groups so what you do affects me and vice versa
* [2011/03/24 14:07] Irene Muni: Thanks BlckCobra LOL
* [2011/03/24 14:07] Rand (rand.linden): Hey guys, I created a wiki category https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Community_Translation_Project
* [2011/03/24 14:07] BlckCobra Shikami: YW hun *g*
* [2011/03/24 14:08] Rand (rand.linden): There was a localization category, but seems like a more specific one would be useful
* [2011/03/24 14:08] Noelle Linden: cool, thank you Rand
* [2011/03/24 14:08] Rand (rand.linden): There is a lot of stale content, but I haven't had time to go through it...
* [2011/03/24 14:08] Rand (rand.linden): np!
* [2011/03/24 14:09] Irene Muni: Wiki, Private Forums, JIRA, KB.... LOL, interesting but...
* [2011/03/24 14:09] Irene Muni: But no problem :)
* [2011/03/24 14:09] Lexie (lexie.linden): CT is everywhere lol
* [2011/03/24 14:09] Irene Muni: :)
* [2011/03/24 14:09] link Kiranov: hh
* [2011/03/24 14:09] link Kiranov: CT rules the slworld
* [2011/03/24 14:09] BlckCobra Shikami: hehehe
* [2011/03/24 14:09] Cummere Mayo: laughs and noddles
* [2011/03/24 14:09] Lexie (lexie.linden): hehe
* [2011/03/24 14:09] Ourasi Ferraris: ^^ SSL handshake failed for me nice page
* [2011/03/24 14:09] Noelle Linden: the agenda for today's meeting is here: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Translation_User_Group
* [2011/03/24 14:10] BlckCobra Shikami: I have a hard time to keep up lately with all the new forum entries, blogs, knowledge base changes and wiki
* [2011/03/24 14:10] Rand (rand.linden): Ourasi - are you trying to view in the Viewer embeded browser...
* [2011/03/24 14:10] Noelle Linden: so should we move the meeting at 12 then?
* [2011/03/24 14:10] Noelle Linden: y? n?
* [2011/03/24 14:10] Torben (torben.trautman): please :)
* [2011/03/24 14:10] Torben (torben.trautman): aye
* [2011/03/24 14:10] Irene Muni: Yes
* [2011/03/24 14:10] BlckCobra Shikami: yes please
* [2011/03/24 14:10] Rand (rand.linden): Try 
* [2011/03/24 14:10] Noelle Linden: please vote ;-)
* [2011/03/24 14:10] Lexie (lexie.linden): yes
* [2011/03/24 14:10] Ourasi Ferraris: yep noel stp
* [2011/03/24 14:10] link Kiranov: incorrect password :))
* [2011/03/24 14:10] Irene Muni: Irene vote yes
* [2011/03/24 14:10] Rand (rand.linden): new time is fine by me!
* [2011/03/24 14:10] link Kiranov: strange
* [2011/03/24 14:11] Cummere Mayo: abstaine :P
* [2011/03/24 14:11] Noelle Linden: all right, then we'll do 12 to 1 pm
* [2011/03/24 14:11] BlckCobra Shikami: you need to translate the password first :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:11] Irene Muni: No kudos for Cummere :)
* [2011/03/24 14:11] Ourasi Ferraris: Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes Yes !
* [2011/03/24 14:11] Ourasi Ferraris: i have many pb too with my wiki password!
* [2011/03/24 14:11] Noelle Linden: would someone volunteer to take the minutes of the meeting and post them on the wiki ?
* [2011/03/24 14:11] Rand (rand.linden): you do not need a password to VIEW any wiki pages, only to edit...
* [2011/03/24 14:11] Torben (torben.trautman): yah
* [2011/03/24 14:11] Torben (torben.trautman): Ill post a transcript
* [2011/03/24 14:11] link Kiranov: okay Rand
* [2011/03/24 14:11] Rand (rand.linden): Thx Torben
* [2011/03/24 14:11] Noelle Linden: thanks Torben
* [2011/03/24 14:11] Irene Muni: L$ for Torben :)
* [2011/03/24 14:12] Lexie (lexie.linden): Torben 
* [2011/03/24 14:12] Noelle Linden: :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:12] Torben (torben.trautman): have the wikifier open already :)
* [2011/03/24 14:12] Lexie (lexie.linden): so handy
* [2011/03/24 14:12] Noelle Linden: yay
* [2011/03/24 14:12] BlckCobra Shikami: Troben: leave out 2 things: the factz that Samia is invisble and my nasty comments please
* [2011/03/24 14:12] Cummere Mayo: lol
* [2011/03/24 14:12] Noelle Linden: :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:12] Torben (torben.trautman): hehe
* [2011/03/24 14:12] Irene Muni: :)
* [2011/03/24 14:12] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: samia is not invisible :p
* [2011/03/24 14:12] Noelle Linden: by the way, Eli couldn't make it today
* [2011/03/24 14:12] Cummere Mayo: I see samia
* [2011/03/24 14:12] Noelle Linden: he is away all afternoon
* [2011/03/24 14:13] Noelle Linden: but he says hi
* [2011/03/24 14:13] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: i see her just fine as well :)
* [2011/03/24 14:13] link Kiranov: ^^
* [2011/03/24 14:13] Samia (samia.bechir): Hi there cloudy people :) just crashed
* [2011/03/24 14:13] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: say hi back to him for us noelle! :)
* [2011/03/24 14:13] BlckCobra Shikami: me too now
* [2011/03/24 14:13] Ourasi Ferraris: Poiz Poiz Samia!!
* [2011/03/24 14:13] Noelle Linden: ok, will do!
* [2011/03/24 14:13] Slatan Dryke: greetings and sorry I am in late
* [2011/03/24 14:13] Rand (rand.linden): Noelle - I'll update the time of the UG on the wiki
* [2011/03/24 14:13] BlckCobra Shikami: SL is slower than we can translate :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:13] BlckCobra Shikami: upps, wipe that Torben :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:13] Ourasi Ferraris: salut Slatan
* [2011/03/24 14:13] Noelle Linden: thank you!!
* [2011/03/24 14:13] Torben (torben.trautman): ^^
* [2011/03/24 14:13] Lexie (lexie.linden): lol Blck
* [2011/03/24 14:14] Noelle Linden: hi Slatan
* [2011/03/24 14:14] Irene Muni: Blck is OK :)
* [2011/03/24 14:14] Ourasi Ferraris: nice wiki page Rand
* [2011/03/24 14:14] Slatan Dryke: hello Lexie and Noelle, group hug
* [2011/03/24 14:14] Rand (rand.linden): thx :)
* [2011/03/24 14:14] Lexie (lexie.linden): Hi Slatan!
* [2011/03/24 14:14] Noelle Linden: Hi Identity
* [2011/03/24 14:14] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: another suggestion, what do all of you say of redoing the island? like a fresh start?
* [2011/03/24 14:15] (identity.euler): Hi I am sorry for being late
* [2011/03/24 14:15] (identity.euler): nice to see you all
* [2011/03/24 14:15] Noelle Linden: np!!
* [2011/03/24 14:15] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: np identity :)
* [2011/03/24 14:15] Noelle Linden: so in terms of "languages" present
* [2011/03/24 14:15] Ourasi Ferraris: hi identity np!
* [2011/03/24 14:15] Torben (torben.trautman): maybe someone could remove Simones stuff at some points - it kinda hurts seeing it :)
* [2011/03/24 14:15] Noelle Linden: we have: German, French, Spanish, Dutch, Polish
* [2011/03/24 14:16] Slatan Dryke: Italian here
* [2011/03/24 14:16] link Kiranov: with less seagulls too noisy !!
* [2011/03/24 14:16] Noelle Linden: Italian
* [2011/03/24 14:16] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: didnt we have Danish as well?
* [2011/03/24 14:16] (identity.euler): yes
* [2011/03/24 14:16] BlckCobra Shikami: and we had/have portuguese - I think
* [2011/03/24 14:16] Irene Muni: Usually we had portuguese
* [2011/03/24 14:16] Lexie (lexie.linden): yes
* [2011/03/24 14:16] Slatan Dryke: yes
* [2011/03/24 14:16] Irene Muni: LOL Blck
* [2011/03/24 14:16] (identity.euler): Danish usually is updated
* [2011/03/24 14:16] BlckCobra Shikami: hehehe Irene
* [2011/03/24 14:16] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: and what about the Japenese team? where did that go?
* [2011/03/24 14:16] Noelle Linden: yes, Danish
* [2011/03/24 14:17] Cummere Mayo: I can do very very limited japanese
* [2011/03/24 14:17] Noelle Linden: and Portuguese
* [2011/03/24 14:17] link Kiranov: :/
* [2011/03/24 14:17] Irene Muni: Bad tiemes for Japan :(
* [2011/03/24 14:17] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: havnt seen any Japanese translators for months
* [2011/03/24 14:17] Irene Muni: times*
* [2011/03/24 14:17] Noelle Linden: so Cummere, where are you from?
* [2011/03/24 14:17] Cummere Mayo: im from us
* [2011/03/24 14:17] Noelle Linden: ok
* [2011/03/24 14:17] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: wasnt talkinga bot the disaster, was talking about since we lost our Japanese Lindens the translators also went poof
* [2011/03/24 14:17] Irene Muni: English USA, another language XD
* [2011/03/24 14:18] Rand (rand.linden): Irene :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:18] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: english US is more a slang and not a language :p
* [2011/03/24 14:18] Torben (torben.trautman): Cummere understands dev speak
* [2011/03/24 14:18] Noelle Linden: I guess it is not a good time for japanese people anyway
* [2011/03/24 14:18] Torben (torben.trautman): she can translate into proper english
* [2011/03/24 14:18] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: no offence to the "Us people, but... kinda true
* [2011/03/24 14:18] Irene Muni: Agree Noelle
* [2011/03/24 14:18] Noelle Linden: Rika used to meet early in the morning
* [2011/03/24 14:18] BlckCobra Shikami: I think they have other problems ATM than translating stuff in SL
* [2011/03/24 14:18] Noelle Linden: with community translators
* [2011/03/24 14:18] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: i know noelle, i usually joined her
* [2011/03/24 14:19] Lexie (lexie.linden): I can translate into improper English..Torben
* [2011/03/24 14:19] Cummere Mayo: yeah im more here to see how i can help trans team and vice versa with mentoring stuff, and with viewer fixes
* [2011/03/24 14:19] Noelle Linden: but if you see any, please tell them to contact me
* [2011/03/24 14:19] Torben (torben.trautman): hehe, dont need help with that ;)
* [2011/03/24 14:19] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: used to be friday morning
* [2011/03/24 14:19] Lexie (lexie.linden): lol
* [2011/03/24 14:19] Noelle Linden: ahh ahh Lexie
* [2011/03/24 14:20] Irene Muni: Silent or am I crash?
* [2011/03/24 14:20] Irene Muni: Silent :)
* [2011/03/24 14:20] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: lol
* [2011/03/24 14:20] BlckCobra Shikami: hehehe
* [2011/03/24 14:20] BlckCobra Shikami: translators do not speak much :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:20] Noelle Linden: I'd like to talk about upcoming projects in the CT group
* [2011/03/24 14:20] Torben (torben.trautman): hehe
* [2011/03/24 14:20] Irene Muni: Questions now or at the end?
* [2011/03/24 14:20] Lexie (lexie.linden): projects!
* [2011/03/24 14:20] Slatan Dryke: they work and work
* [2011/03/24 14:20] Irene Muni: Ok, projects
* [2011/03/24 14:20] Noelle Linden: :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:21] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: what about a special day to thank the translators for their work :p we didnt have one really last year either :p
* [2011/03/24 14:21] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: /me evil grin
* [2011/03/24 14:21] Noelle Linden: I have already reached out to Torben and Irene for a couple of projects, and will continue to do so, and will also involve French and Portuguese CT members for occasional requests through jira
* [2011/03/24 14:22] Irene Muni: Irene and Spanish Team :)
* [2011/03/24 14:22] BlckCobra Shikami: naww Youri ... last time we had party it was at a time hardly anyone from europe could attend. And it was announced after the party
* [2011/03/24 14:22] Noelle Linden: I know Eli has opened a jira for the Light Viewer in Polish and Danish
* [2011/03/24 14:22] Irene Muni: 12 translators :)
* [2011/03/24 14:22] Noelle Linden: yes Irene ;-)
* [2011/03/24 14:22] Noelle Linden: wooohhh
* [2011/03/24 14:22] Irene Muni: There is a Spanisj JIRA for translations of the Bassic Mode
* [2011/03/24 14:22] Noelle Linden: that's a team
* [2011/03/24 14:23] Slatan Dryke: bravo Irene
* [2011/03/24 14:23] Irene Muni: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25217
* [2011/03/24 14:23] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: cobra, yeah, well still counts as having none :p
* [2011/03/24 14:23] BlckCobra Shikami: hehehe
* [2011/03/24 14:23] Slatan Dryke: about the Italian team I guess I need to find new members
* [2011/03/24 14:23] BlckCobra Shikami: Irene, do you ever sleep?
* [2011/03/24 14:23] Noelle Linden: the Basic viewer will be in French, German, Spanish and Portuguese
* [2011/03/24 14:23] Slatan Dryke: I am the last one
* [2011/03/24 14:23] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: irene is on translator steroids ;)
* [2011/03/24 14:23] Irene Muni: LOL
* [2011/03/24 14:23] BlckCobra Shikami: another new viewer beside crappy V2?
* [2011/03/24 14:24] Irene Muni: Irene is the BOSS XD
* [2011/03/24 14:24] Cummere Mayo: new viewer skin for v2
* [2011/03/24 14:24] BlckCobra Shikami: did I miss something lately?
* [2011/03/24 14:24] BlckCobra Shikami: ah ok
* [2011/03/24 14:24] Lexie (lexie.linden): hahah *gives Irene a Kudo and runs*
* [2011/03/24 14:24] Torben (torben.trautman): its not as bad as it sounds Blck
* [2011/03/24 14:24] Irene Muni: Lexie LOL
* [2011/03/24 14:24] Noelle Linden: so there are files posted by Eli for Polish and Danish
* [2011/03/24 14:24] Cummere Mayo: v2 is actually allot nicer then it was
* [2011/03/24 14:24] Irene Muni: jkudos and ranks for me
* [2011/03/24 14:24] Lexie (lexie.linden): : ))
* [2011/03/24 14:24] Irene Muni: :)
* [2011/03/24 14:24] BlckCobra Shikami: hehehe
* [2011/03/24 14:24] Noelle Linden: and the other languages are being worked on
* [2011/03/24 14:24] BlckCobra Shikami: /me throws some Kudos at Irene
* [2011/03/24 14:24] : (boroondas.gupte): 
* [2011/03/24 14:24] link Kiranov: v2... nightmare ^^
* [2011/03/24 14:25] Irene Muni: Thanks Blck :)
* [2011/03/24 14:25] Ourasi Ferraris: v2 is evil
* [2011/03/24 14:25] Noelle Linden: Duch can be done as well :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:25] Cummere Mayo: i need to look at basic more... if its mostly a matter of xui or web editing i can help some with that
* [2011/03/24 14:25] BlckCobra Shikami: /me does not say anythign anymore about V2
* [2011/03/24 14:25] BlckCobra Shikami: beside that it's BS
* [2011/03/24 14:25] Irene Muni: I think we need actually a clear schedule of works.
* [2011/03/24 14:25] Noelle Linden: for the Basic, there are xui strings and also .po files for web
* [2011/03/24 14:26] Noelle Linden: Eli only putted the xml file for the xui
* [2011/03/24 14:26] Cummere Mayo: okay i dunno enough about .po
* [2011/03/24 14:26] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: mean dutch?
* [2011/03/24 14:26] : (boroondas.gupte): what's .po?
* [2011/03/24 14:26] Noelle Linden: he can also make the .po available for Polish, Dutch, and Danish
* [2011/03/24 14:26] Noelle Linden: it's a file format for web localization
* [2011/03/24 14:26] Irene Muni: And Spanish? (ehem)
* [2011/03/24 14:26] Noelle Linden: since there are more web components in the Basic viewer
* [2011/03/24 14:27] Cummere Mayo: i can help edit xui files if someone has trouble and provides the translations...
* [2011/03/24 14:27] BlckCobra Shikami: that's .po-es files :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:27] Noelle Linden: Spanish are being worked on by our contractor
* [2011/03/24 14:27] Irene Muni: WOW :-D
* [2011/03/24 14:27] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: gonna be a busy few months for me i see. lol
* [2011/03/24 14:27] Torben (torben.trautman): Irene, thats done by google translate ;)
* [2011/03/24 14:27] Noelle Linden: Eli can help you work with those .po
* [2011/03/24 14:27] Cummere Mayo: they doing the russian as well?
* [2011/03/24 14:27] Irene Muni: Can the contractyor see olds works on ghold? :)
* [2011/03/24 14:27] Cummere Mayo: lol
* [2011/03/24 14:27] Irene Muni: old works on hold (sorry)
* [2011/03/24 14:28] Noelle Linden: except for the viewer, there are some KB articles ready for you to translate in Lithium
* [2011/03/24 14:28] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: pathfinder is online i see :p
* [2011/03/24 14:28] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: he just came online :p
* [2011/03/24 14:28] Irene Muni: Noelle, Lexie, Rand, or ... what about the problems adding articles to the new KB?
* [2011/03/24 14:28] Noelle Linden: for now, in French, German, Spanish, and Portuguese
* [2011/03/24 14:28] Lexie (lexie.linden): good start
* [2011/03/24 14:28] link Kiranov: yes
* [2011/03/24 14:29] Noelle Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Platform_KB_Translation_Project
* [2011/03/24 14:29] Rand (rand.linden): Irene - We are working on that as we speak
* [2011/03/24 14:29] Rand (rand.linden): There are two problems: headings and external images
* [2011/03/24 14:29] Rand (rand.linden): we have the external image issue fixed, so you can use images from the wiki
* [2011/03/24 14:29] Rand (rand.linden): the other issue is not yet resolved
* [2011/03/24 14:29] Noelle Linden: great
* [2011/03/24 14:29] Irene Muni: Ok, we wait, thanks Rand :)
* [2011/03/24 14:29] Rand (rand.linden): yw... i am impatient, too!
* [2011/03/24 14:30] Cummere Mayo: lol
* [2011/03/24 14:30] Lexie (lexie.linden): me too
* [2011/03/24 14:30] Lexie (lexie.linden): lol
* [2011/03/24 14:30] Torben (torben.trautman): Irene, youre the only one who could contribute to the KB anyways :)
* [2011/03/24 14:30] Cummere Mayo: patience? what are those?
* [2011/03/24 14:30] Lexie (lexie.linden): 
* [2011/03/24 14:30] Irene Muni: LOL Torben
* [2011/03/24 14:30] Noelle Linden: so Rand, should we wait for the KB because of the headings issue?
* [2011/03/24 14:30] Rand (rand.linden): (note the image fix is just on staging, so it's not public yet...)
* [2011/03/24 14:30] Irene Muni: Vote against ranks :)
* [2011/03/24 14:30] Lexie (lexie.linden): Irene!
* [2011/03/24 14:30] Lexie (lexie.linden): lol
* [2011/03/24 14:30] Rand (rand.linden): Noelle - perhaps. Or we could figure out some other process in the meantime
* [2011/03/24 14:30] Cummere Mayo: i still think snowstorm members should be able to contribute to kb
* [2011/03/24 14:31] Torben (torben.trautman): OMG no
* [2011/03/24 14:31] Rand (rand.linden): e.g. translators could post to wiki and Lindens could copy to Lithium
* [2011/03/24 14:31] Irene Muni: But Lexie, Torben is OK :) He (and others) can add articles to KB.
* [2011/03/24 14:31] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: ranks may not be handy, but each language team does need someone that leads it
* [2011/03/24 14:31] Noelle Linden: I would prefer to wait and get translators work in Lithium directly
* [2011/03/24 14:31] Rand (rand.linden): ok
* [2011/03/24 14:31] Noelle Linden: using the html editor
* [2011/03/24 14:32] Rand (rand.linden): i will pester the tech team for the fix!
* [2011/03/24 14:32] Noelle Linden: if not, we'll have to do some copy/paste
* [2011/03/24 14:32] BlckCobra Shikami: hehehe
* [2011/03/24 14:32] Slatan Dryke: lol Rand
* [2011/03/24 14:32] Lexie (lexie.linden): We will work on that second issue!
* [2011/03/24 14:32] Noelle Linden: :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:32] Irene Muni: :)
* [2011/03/24 14:32] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: and really, we really need to clean out the group to kick out everyone that isnt working or no longer active
* [2011/03/24 14:32] Irene Muni: Youri, there are new solliccitudes :)
* [2011/03/24 14:32] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: it is a group for translators, not for 'look at me i have a linden group tag!'
* [2011/03/24 14:32] Irene Muni: sollictudes??? is that English???
* [2011/03/24 14:32] Noelle Linden: but basically, for the 4 main languages, the KB articles on Lithium will be the area where your help will be most needed
* [2011/03/24 14:33] Slatan Dryke: Youri dont be so bad :)
* [2011/03/24 14:33] Noelle Linden: so let's wait until the fixes are available for now
* [2011/03/24 14:33] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: i know what you mean irene, but i meant the older people that none of us really seen either here or working on the translations
* [2011/03/24 14:33] BlckCobra Shikami: 145 members left - I think it was much more before
* [2011/03/24 14:33] Irene Muni: Who use the tag of this group in world???
* [2011/03/24 14:33] link Kiranov: tss tss tss Youri ^^ you have the Secondlife CT projects group in your profil ^^
* [2011/03/24 14:33] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: lol
* [2011/03/24 14:33] BlckCobra Shikami: older people? Are you talking about me? /-)
* [2011/03/24 14:34] Cummere Mayo: /me is lost
* [2011/03/24 14:34] Torben (torben.trautman): could we focus a bit please :)
* [2011/03/24 14:34] BlckCobra Shikami: /me is not old
* [2011/03/24 14:34] Irene Muni: Cummere is Lost in Translation :)
* [2011/03/24 14:34] Noelle Linden: Do you have questions so far about Lithium or other projects I mentioned?
* [2011/03/24 14:34] link Kiranov: yes lost in translation after the NDA V2 translation ^^
* [2011/03/24 14:34] Rand (rand.linden): Let me give a quick overview of the proposed process for KB article translation
* [2011/03/24 14:34] Rand (rand.linden): https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Platform_KB_Translation_Project
* [2011/03/24 14:34] BlckCobra Shikami: don't remind us of teh NDA crap
* [2011/03/24 14:34] Irene Muni: What about some very old JIRAs reviewing translations? For example Spanish :)
* [2011/03/24 14:34] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: actually i do use it, even CCP (makers from the game EVE Online) are interrested in me. so for a good offer ill be joining them
* [2011/03/24 14:35] Noelle Linden: I'll come to that Irene
* [2011/03/24 14:35] link Kiranov: lol BlkCobra
* [2011/03/24 14:35] Ourasi Ferraris: arghh the NDA
* [2011/03/24 14:35] Rand (rand.linden): At least initially, we'll use this page to list articles that are "ready" for translation
* [2011/03/24 14:35] Irene Muni: OG Noelle :)
* [2011/03/24 14:35] Noelle Linden: Rand it would be great to get that process overview :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:35] Rand (rand.linden): or re-translation (as the case may be)
* [2011/03/24 14:35] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: LL rather doesnt even notice me even trough im working along since early 2009... lol
* [2011/03/24 14:35] Rand (rand.linden): we should probably also have a heading for "in progress" articles once we start...
* [2011/03/24 14:36] Rand (rand.linden): I'm open to devising a better process, but this is a start at least.
* [2011/03/24 14:36] Cummere Mayo: ild hold off on customer support till we find out if we can get some of the stuff discussed at the community tools group
* [2011/03/24 14:36] Noelle Linden: For translation, I will create sub categories
* [2011/03/24 14:36] Cummere Mayo: *on translating
* [2011/03/24 14:36] Torben (torben.trautman): Rand: basically every german KB article I looked at so far is outdated, so maybe we can have a category for needs updating too?
* [2011/03/24 14:36] Rand (rand.linden): Torben: good idea...
* [2011/03/24 14:36] Noelle Linden: that would be awsome
* [2011/03/24 14:36] Rand (rand.linden): ...thought if it really is EVERY article...
* [2011/03/24 14:36] BlckCobra Shikami: I agree Torben
* [2011/03/24 14:36] Torben (torben.trautman): I tried to be nice ;)
* [2011/03/24 14:36] Rand (rand.linden): *though
* [2011/03/24 14:37] Rand (rand.linden): I am not terribly suprised, tbh
* [2011/03/24 14:37] Rand (rand.linden): there is definitely a lot of work to do!
* [2011/03/24 14:37] Noelle Linden: yes!!
* [2011/03/24 14:37] link Kiranov: everyone can modify the wiki everyone can modify the KB too ?
* [2011/03/24 14:37] Torben (torben.trautman): I have a question about the creation of KB articles
* [2011/03/24 14:38] Rand (rand.linden): The doc team is going through all the KB articles and reviewing them ...
* [2011/03/24 14:38] Rand (rand.linden): Kiranov: yes, IF you have the necessary rank
* [2011/03/24 14:38] Irene Muni: You cvanto create KB articles Rank, you are only a Honoured Member LOL
* [2011/03/24 14:38] Torben (torben.trautman): @Rand: do you have a style guide that defines the fonts and font sizes used and stuff like that?
* [2011/03/24 14:38] Irene Muni: You cannot*
* [2011/03/24 14:38] Rand (rand.linden): Torben: we do have a style guide....
* [2011/03/24 14:38] Rand (rand.linden): link in a sec...
* [2011/03/24 14:38] Torben (torben.trautman): and, is it possible to get the pictures you use in a format that supports different layers?
* [2011/03/24 14:39] Rand (rand.linden): 
* [2011/03/24 14:39] BlckCobra Shikami: Honored Member = do the work and shut up LOL
* [2011/03/24 14:39] Torben (torben.trautman): would make the localization of pictures way easier
* [2011/03/24 14:39] link Kiranov: with Surf we have see a lot of mistakes and jokes in the french wiki because everyone can modify
* [2011/03/24 14:39] Rand (rand.linden): I don't think it addresses fonts and font sizes, because that is largely handled by Lithium..
* [2011/03/24 14:39] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: i think we not helping with adding tags like "translated by [name]", just a "translated by CT translator Team" should be enough
* [2011/03/24 14:39] Rand (rand.linden): assumption is that regular text is just in ...
* [2011/03/24 14:39] Torben (torben.trautman): I was more thinking about the pictures
* [2011/03/24 14:39] Rand (rand.linden): and headings are those from the toolbar, which are just h2, h3, etc.
* [2011/03/24 14:39] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: else individual translators may get picked out by griefers
* [2011/03/24 14:40] Torben (torben.trautman): photoshopping them can get annoying :)
* [2011/03/24 14:40] Rand (rand.linden): Ah yes, Torben.... good suggestion...
* [2011/03/24 14:40] : (boroondas.gupte): Btw., some pages have been moved from the wiki to the new KB, although they are topics of ongoing research (or explain something that changes regularly) and that have been updated by a broad (and loose) group of residents on a regular basis ... how will these be kept up-to-date now? (e.g. )
* [2011/03/24 14:40] Rand (rand.linden): We haven't been doing that
* [2011/03/24 14:40] Irene Muni: Youri, Spanish Team has collectiveAccount: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:TraductoresAnonimos_Alter
* [2011/03/24 14:40] Torben (torben.trautman): especially when there is those opaque images with text on the pics it would be great help
* [2011/03/24 14:41] Rand (rand.linden): So, in general the KB pages should be kept up-to-date...
* [2011/03/24 14:41] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: irene, well a good idea :) might be something for all teams. each their own collective name
* [2011/03/24 14:41] Rand (rand.linden): ...at least that is the intent... we have a very small staff
* [2011/03/24 14:41] Irene Muni: Rand, is it featured the "suggedted article" for KB? Apparently this is no advice, I don't know is that is featured.
* [2011/03/24 14:41] Irene Muni: suggested*
* [2011/03/24 14:41] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: just do add to that profile that it is part of the CT team
* [2011/03/24 14:41] Rand (rand.linden): Irene- you mean having "Featured Article" in KB?
* [2011/03/24 14:41] Irene Muni: No Youri, not all the spanish translators are in the CT group :)
* [2011/03/24 14:42] Rand (rand.linden): or suggesting new articles?
* [2011/03/24 14:42] Irene Muni: No, wait Rand, I don't remember the exact name :)
* [2011/03/24 14:42] Noelle Linden: There was a question about HOW to translate a KB in Lithium
* [2011/03/24 14:42] Noelle Linden: Could we go over that Rand?
* [2011/03/24 14:42] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: irene, you mean a general team just for the spanish translators then?
* [2011/03/24 14:42] Irene Muni: Nominate To KB Rand :)
* [2011/03/24 14:42] Rand (rand.linden): ok...let me read back :)
* [2011/03/24 14:42] BlckCobra Shikami: yes Noelle and also how to keep pages in Lithium up to date - esp those whcih change frequently
* [2011/03/24 14:43] Irene Muni: I nominate days ago a therad. But I don't know if you or others Lindens see that :)
* [2011/03/24 14:43] BlckCobra Shikami: Formely we were able to do that in the wiki, in the new KB we can't
* [2011/03/24 14:43] Noelle Linden: First of all, which rank do you need to have to translate, or edit?
* [2011/03/24 14:43] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: think we do better if we discuss where to start in the KB, instead of individual pages
* [2011/03/24 14:44] Rand (rand.linden): See 
* [2011/03/24 14:44] Noelle Linden: Thanks
* [2011/03/24 14:44] Torben (torben.trautman): If I just may quote myself on that: "I will NOT participate in forums chit chat to earn a rank allowing me to add translations/fixes to the knowledge base. This is simply not going to happen."
* [2011/03/24 14:44] Noelle Linden: can everybody see that page?
* [2011/03/24 14:44] Cummere Mayo: yeah
* [2011/03/24 14:44] Rand (rand.linden): Basically you need to be a "Contributor" to edit
* [2011/03/24 14:44] Lexie (lexie.linden): Irene when you nominate, if it went through successfully, you will see a notice saying ..Nominated
* [2011/03/24 14:44] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: torben, same for me
* [2011/03/24 14:44] Noelle Linden: So you need to be a Contributor
* [2011/03/24 14:44] Slatan Dryke: yup
* [2011/03/24 14:44] Irene Muni: Yes Noelle, I hate that page LOL
* [2011/03/24 14:45] link Kiranov: I can Noelle
* [2011/03/24 14:45] Rand (rand.linden): Torben, Youri, perhaps Lexie can help you? ;-)
* [2011/03/24 14:45] Torben (torben.trautman): Irene, 10 more kudos and you will be VIP
* [2011/03/24 14:45] Cummere Mayo: /me still would like to see a role for snowstorm people, or us snowstorm people jumped to contributor
* [2011/03/24 14:45] Torben (torben.trautman): ;)
* [2011/03/24 14:45] Noelle Linden: :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:45] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: we are here to use SL, not here to switch from SL back to text chatter only
* [2011/03/24 14:45] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: besides, i like to work, not chatter
* [2011/03/24 14:45] Irene Muni: Torben vote/watch against ranks: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-3705 LOL
* [2011/03/24 14:45] Rand (rand.linden): Youri: i understand....
* [2011/03/24 14:45] BlckCobra Shikami: So aperson with 3000 posts chit chat can become an editor and a serious translator/maintainer with 50 posts is too low ranked?
* [2011/03/24 14:46] link Kiranov: ^^^^^^^
* [2011/03/24 14:46] Lexie (lexie.linden): Its not about chatter, but I do understand what you are saying
* [2011/03/24 14:46] Lexie (lexie.linden): No Blck, they cannot
* [2011/03/24 14:46] Cummere Mayo: blck welcome to how us devs feel
* [2011/03/24 14:46] Lexie (lexie.linden): It is based on more than post numbers
* [2011/03/24 14:46] Ourasi Ferraris: ^^
* [2011/03/24 14:46] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: the whole CT work is kinda started for me as a 'in-between' thing until i got actually in LL or even noticed enough. but that so far didnt even came close <.<
* [2011/03/24 14:46] link Kiranov: bad idea
* [2011/03/24 14:46] Torben (torben.trautman): its not meant in an offensive way. I just didnt join a virtual world to participate in forums :)
* [2011/03/24 14:47] Cummere Mayo: allot of us write or test the features but cant write the kb about it
* [2011/03/24 14:47] Irene Muni: Agree, agree, agree
* [2011/03/24 14:47] Rand (rand.linden): I would propose that we make an exception for those willing to do translation work. But it is not up to me! Lexie, I would propose that we make an exception for certain special cases like translators, but i realize that that may be an issue...
* [2011/03/24 14:47] Rand (rand.linden): In any case, it is not up to me.
* [2011/03/24 14:47] Lexie (lexie.linden): But.. Let the Linden team talk a bit about CT and what we can do maybe since you all are in a unique position
* [2011/03/24 14:47] link Kiranov: if I post 50 silly messages I will have a good ranking
* [2011/03/24 14:47] Torben (torben.trautman): I do post in forums frequently when we plan a guild raid though :) but errm thats a different company :)
* [2011/03/24 14:47] Rand (rand.linden): oops --sorry for the dup text (blus)
* [2011/03/24 14:47] Lexie (lexie.linden): hehe
* [2011/03/24 14:47] Irene Muni: Exceptions are dangerous (just my opinion), the problem is the rank system.
* [2011/03/24 14:47] BlckCobra Shikami: I agree, Irene
* [2011/03/24 14:47] link Kiranov: yes
* [2011/03/24 14:48] Irene Muni: Y can imagine the comments in the forums about those "exceptions"
* [2011/03/24 14:48] BlckCobra Shikami: Better keep the KB-Articles in the wiki instead of Lithium
* [2011/03/24 14:48] Rand (rand.linden): yes, i realize that might be problematic...
* [2011/03/24 14:48] Lexie (lexie.linden): Giev the system time before you judge it. Let us get back to you on how we can work things out for translators 
* [2011/03/24 14:48] : (boroondas.gupte): +BlckCobra
* [2011/03/24 14:48] BlckCobra Shikami: that gets us back to the comment, Youri made earlier abouzt teh "griefers"
* [2011/03/24 14:48] Slatan Dryke: agree with Blck
* [2011/03/24 14:48] Noelle Linden: I agree, let's see what can be done for CT
* [2011/03/24 14:48] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: i sure did, and i know they will pop up
* [2011/03/24 14:49] Torben (torben.trautman): you can always create an alt to contribute :)
* [2011/03/24 14:49] link Kiranov: arf
* [2011/03/24 14:49] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: griefers dont like people that try to do good, and thus grief untill that person either stops with it or leaves
* [2011/03/24 14:49] Torben (torben.trautman): like Wasted does
* [2011/03/24 14:49] Lexie (lexie.linden): Stay positive! And thanks for this feedback.
* [2011/03/24 14:49] Torben (torben.trautman): sorry, thats off topic :)
* [2011/03/24 14:49] Irene Muni: Question: Anybody in this group (Lindens and members) see the Private Forum for translators? :) Since Lithiums it's a chat betwwen Torben and me LOL
* [2011/03/24 14:49] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: l\\dont mind my typing now, on my laptop <.<
* [2011/03/24 14:49] BlckCobra Shikami: We don't want to run aroudn withn alt, we don#t want to be decorated with ranks, we want to contribute a humble part to the SL community
* [2011/03/24 14:50] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: irene, i dont :)
* [2011/03/24 14:50] Irene Muni: BRAVO Blck
* [2011/03/24 14:50] Slatan Dryke: /me votes for Blck
* [2011/03/24 14:50] Torben (torben.trautman): yes, feel free to join us in Irenes and my forum :)
* [2011/03/24 14:50] : (boroondas.gupte): Irene, url?
* [2011/03/24 14:50] Samia (samia.bechir): there's a private forum for translators ?? O.o
* [2011/03/24 14:50] Noelle Linden: hum... we only have 10mn left
* [2011/03/24 14:50] BlckCobra Shikami: That's waht I mentioned earlier, so many forums, blogs and pages - hard to keep up
* [2011/03/24 14:50] Torben (torben.trautman): 
* [2011/03/24 14:50] Irene Muni: boroondas 
* [2011/03/24 14:50] Irene Muni: buf, kudos for torben :(
* [2011/03/24 14:50] Ourasi Ferraris: ^^
* [2011/03/24 14:50] Samia (samia.bechir): thanks :)
* [2011/03/24 14:51] Cummere Mayo: so i got a general question if im allowed?
* [2011/03/24 14:51] Noelle Linden: so, there will be a talk amongs Linden to discuss potential special rights for CT members
* [2011/03/24 14:51] Torben (torben.trautman): hehe we both know it by heart :)
* [2011/03/24 14:51] Irene Muni: LOL
* [2011/03/24 14:51] BlckCobra Shikami: empty forum :-(
* [2011/03/24 14:51] Irene Muni: Empty???
* [2011/03/24 14:51] Noelle Linden: as far as areas to contribute first on the KB...
* [2011/03/24 14:51] BlckCobra Shikami: no post visible
* [2011/03/24 14:51] Irene Muni: Please, I'm the quenn of that forum LOL
* [2011/03/24 14:51] Irene Muni: queen*
* [2011/03/24 14:51] Slatan Dryke: cookies for the CS members !
* [2011/03/24 14:51] : (boroondas.gupte): I see the posts there
* [2011/03/24 14:51] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: think CT team also needs to be able to do a few simple anti griever actions, like returning items incase of a griever attack and the CT member happens to see it
* [2011/03/24 14:51] Noelle Linden: there are new articles to translate on https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Platform_KB_Translation_Project
* [2011/03/24 14:52] Noelle Linden: and there are almost all articles to update
* [2011/03/24 14:52] Torben (torben.trautman): @Youri: errr NO
* [2011/03/24 14:52] link Kiranov: if we wanted medals, we would have been asked to be in the greetings of the V2 help/about menu
* [2011/03/24 14:52] Noelle Linden: I will work on a process to do both and will post in on the wiki
* [2011/03/24 14:52] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: i very often see griefers, but filling a AR waiting to get it removed takes ages
* [2011/03/24 14:52] Noelle Linden: *it
* [2011/03/24 14:52] BlckCobra Shikami: sh*t - I was not signe din - sometimes multi sign in to SL does not work
* [2011/03/24 14:52] Irene Muni: I disagree Youri
* [2011/03/24 14:52] : (boroondas.gupte): looks empty, though
* [2011/03/24 14:52] (identity.euler): You need to be logged in to see forum
* [2011/03/24 14:53] Irene Muni: sh*i??? I can translate that :)
* [2011/03/24 14:53] Noelle Linden: since we have only a few minutes left, I would like to finish with a few other items :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:53] BlckCobra Shikami: hahaha
* [2011/03/24 14:53] Torben (torben.trautman): Noelle, would it make sense to meet weekly at least for the next few weeks?
* [2011/03/24 14:53] Irene Muni: Ok Noelle
* [2011/03/24 14:53] link Kiranov: yes Youri
* [2011/03/24 14:53] Noelle Linden: sure, let's meet next week again
* [2011/03/24 14:53] Noelle Linden: at 12
* [2011/03/24 14:54] Irene Muni: Great
* [2011/03/24 14:54] Noelle Linden: :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:54] link Kiranov: 12 sl time ?
* [2011/03/24 14:54] Noelle Linden: yes!
* [2011/03/24 14:54] Cummere Mayo: noelle may i ask one thing?
* [2011/03/24 14:54] link Kiranov: goooooooood !!
* [2011/03/24 14:54] Slatan Dryke: ok for me
* [2011/03/24 14:54] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: 8pm my time that is :)
* [2011/03/24 14:54] link Kiranov: me too
* [2011/03/24 14:54] Noelle Linden: there was a question about the terms of service
* [2011/03/24 14:54] Irene Muni: If the child dont cry at !" Sl time :)
* [2011/03/24 14:54] Noelle Linden: not localized
* [2011/03/24 14:54] Ourasi Ferraris: 
* [2011/03/24 14:54] Ourasi Ferraris: yep now it's restart all week
* [2011/03/24 14:54] Noelle Linden: They cannot be localized for legal reasons
* [2011/03/24 14:54] link Kiranov: if we have any questions Noelle we can send you a nc ?
* [2011/03/24 14:55] Cummere Mayo: o.O
* [2011/03/24 14:55] : (boroondas.gupte): don't forget most of Europe changes to DST soon
* [2011/03/24 14:55] Samia (samia.bechir): cant be there next thursday evening, but Ourasi and link will take notes for me :)
* [2011/03/24 14:55] Cummere Mayo: wiatt what?
* [2011/03/24 14:55] Irene Muni: Buf, there is a JIRA for TOS transation: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-2594
* [2011/03/24 14:55] Torben (torben.trautman): Noelle, is your legal team aware of international law? The ToS are void here in germany if untranslated... not that I mind
* [2011/03/24 14:55] Noelle Linden: they would need to be reviewed by a Legal team in each one of the countries
* [2011/03/24 14:55] Ourasi Ferraris: 
* [2011/03/24 14:55] Ourasi Ferraris: yep samia
* [2011/03/24 14:55] Irene Muni: Same in Spain
* [2011/03/24 14:55] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: same for many other countries torben
* [2011/03/24 14:55] Cummere Mayo: the tos cant be transalted for legal reasons? but if its not translated it cant be held binding
* [2011/03/24 14:55] Noelle Linden: I would want them to be localized
* [2011/03/24 14:55] link Kiranov: oui on prendra des notes Samia ^
* [2011/03/24 14:55] BlckCobra Shikami: Access Denied Enter a search word turn off suggestions Enter a search word turn off suggestions Enter a user name or rank turn off suggestions turn on suggestions Sorry, you do not have sufficient privileges for that action. Please click the Back button on your browser.
* [2011/03/24 14:55] BlckCobra Shikami: sorry
* [2011/03/24 14:56] Noelle Linden: do not shoot the messenger :-)
* [2011/03/24 14:56] Torben (torben.trautman): just asking :)
* [2011/03/24 14:56] Noelle Linden: this has not been my call
* [2011/03/24 14:56] Irene Muni: Asking only
* [2011/03/24 14:56] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: its the US simple thinking of 'our rules count everywhere" that is so wrong in that
* [2011/03/24 14:56] Cummere Mayo: no can i have your lawyer to shoot him
* [2011/03/24 14:56] Cummere Mayo: or her
* [2011/03/24 14:56] Irene Muni: LOL Cummere :)
* [2011/03/24 14:56] Irene Muni: But agree Cummere
* [2011/03/24 14:56] Torben (torben.trautman): how about a inofficial translation as we did with the CS before legal said it was ok to translate them?
* [2011/03/24 14:56] Noelle Linden: the other question was about the Spanish bugs
* [2011/03/24 14:56] Torben (torben.trautman): the could be a huge warning sign
* [2011/03/24 14:56] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: we as translators (as example) have the disadvantage of having at least 1 hand tied thanks to that
* [2011/03/24 14:56] Torben (torben.trautman): *there
* [2011/03/24 14:56] Noelle Linden: so Irene, you've sent comments about the webprofiles
* [2011/03/24 14:57] Irene Muni: And other issues :)
* [2011/03/24 14:57] Noelle Linden: I forwarded those to our Spanish translator
* [2011/03/24 14:57] Noelle Linden: he will look into them
* [2011/03/24 14:57] Irene Muni: OK Noelle, but see also (for others lanmguages) 
* [2011/03/24 14:57] Noelle Linden: he is not available full time like Luna used to be
* [2011/03/24 14:57] Torben (torben.trautman): Lexie, would you mind if I update this page a bit: ?
* [2011/03/24 14:58] Irene Muni: Ok Noelle, greetings to Perez :)
* [2011/03/24 14:58] Lexie (lexie.linden): go for it Torben!
* [2011/03/24 14:58] Torben (torben.trautman): k, cool
* [2011/03/24 14:58] Noelle Linden: thank you Torben this page is to outdated...
* [2011/03/24 14:58] Slatan Dryke: gosh ! too many links I am getting crazy lol
* [2011/03/24 14:58] Rand (rand.linden): Yex, thanks Torben, it needs it!
* [2011/03/24 14:58] Noelle Linden: so Irene, the Spanish issues you logged will be looked at
* [2011/03/24 14:59] Torben (torben.trautman): just thought I ask first as its protected :)
* [2011/03/24 14:59] Irene Muni: Great Noelle.
* [2011/03/24 14:59] Irene Muni: 
* [2011/03/24 14:59] Noelle Linden: it's just that we do not have as many linguistic resources as we used to
* [2011/03/24 14:59] Cummere Mayo: Ll doesnt have as many resources period as it used to
* [2011/03/24 15:00] Noelle Linden: so it takes longer to get things fixed in various languages
* [2011/03/24 15:00] Cummere Mayo: /me looks around for an effigy of M to burn
* [2011/03/24 15:00] Irene Muni: Rand, my previous question was about "Nominate article to KB". Is that Lithium option featured? Do you see that nominations?
* [2011/03/24 15:00] Noelle Linden: but thank you for brining those up
* [2011/03/24 15:00] Noelle Linden: *bringing
* [2011/03/24 15:00] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: we always did use more time, specially for those that are doing it all alone
* [2011/03/24 15:00] Torben (torben.trautman): can we discuss workflow a bit next meeting?
* [2011/03/24 15:00] Samia (samia.bechir): /me sends Cummere a lighter
* [2011/03/24 15:00] Rand (rand.linden): Irene - I don't see it, but I am an admin...
* [2011/03/24 15:00] Rand (rand.linden): Are you saying you don't see it? Or you do...?
* [2011/03/24 15:01] Irene Muni: Well, I will PM you explaining the issue.
* [2011/03/24 15:01] Cummere Mayo: Noelle, for those of us that test, and or do minor bug fixes for snowstorm, is there anything you would like from us? not saying i can promise anything but i can ask around
* [2011/03/24 15:01] BlckCobra Shikami: /me suggest to take off the sunglasses
* [2011/03/24 15:01] Noelle Linden: For Lithium Torben?
* [2011/03/24 15:01] Irene Muni: I can nominate, I have nominated an artcle, but I don't knowe if Linden see that nomination :)
* [2011/03/24 15:01] Torben (torben.trautman): no just general workflow
* [2011/03/24 15:01] Noelle Linden: of course
* [2011/03/24 15:01] Rand (rand.linden): Irene: gracias
* [2011/03/24 15:01] BlckCobra Shikami: good idea Torben
* [2011/03/24 15:01] Irene Muni: De nada Rand :)
* [2011/03/24 15:01] Torben (torben.trautman): like if maybe we could move all vwr issues that are about localization into CT
* [2011/03/24 15:01] Torben (torben.trautman): stuff like that
* [2011/03/24 15:01] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: lets just start with the main page, then the tutorial pages and then see whats up next
* [2011/03/24 15:02] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: no point in doing the harder pages till later
* [2011/03/24 15:02] Cummere Mayo: +1 torben
* [2011/03/24 15:02] Noelle Linden: Cummere, nothing I can think of
* [2011/03/24 15:02] Noelle Linden: guys, I have to go, because I have a meeting now
* [2011/03/24 15:02] Irene Muni: And the tr5anslations of the images in Quick Start Guide, I think it's urgent :(
* [2011/03/24 15:02] Torben (torben.trautman): Cummere: If you find someone who wants to take care of all the truncations, everybody here would love you
* [2011/03/24 15:02] Noelle Linden: shall we meet next week then?
* [2011/03/24 15:02] BlckCobra Shikami: my computer says: "Insert coing to continue" :-(
* [2011/03/24 15:02] Cummere Mayo: tyvm noelle
* [2011/03/24 15:02] Noelle Linden: at 12?
* [2011/03/24 15:02] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: thanks for having us noelle :) and glad your back :)
* [2011/03/24 15:02] BlckCobra Shikami: yes Noelle
* [2011/03/24 15:02] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: and yeah, lets do next week again :)
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Noelle Linden: thank you all so much for coming
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Torben (torben.trautman): yay for the CTUG meeting
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Irene Muni: Kisses yo your baby Noelle :)
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Slatan Dryke: WB Noelle and TC :)
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Torben (torben.trautman): WOOOHOOO!!!!
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Cummere Mayo: torben truncated how and where and which language(s)?
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Lexie (lexie.linden): Thanks everyone
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Noelle Linden: thank you Lexie, and Rand
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Torben (torben.trautman): now, where is the prim baby?
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Rand (rand.linden): Noelle - Will this UG meet *every* week or every othe week?
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: /me cuddles noelle's baby :)
* [2011/03/24 15:03] : (boroondas.gupte): I wish there was more cooperation between CT and Community viewer devs. Then new UI strings for new features could start out fully translated instead of having to wait until a release.
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Slatan Dryke: Ty Lexie and Rand
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Rand (rand.linden): *other...
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Ourasi Ferraris: 
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Ourasi Ferraris: thanks Lexie, Rand and Noelle
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Torben (torben.trautman): Noelle said for now we meet weekly
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Noelle Linden: bye
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Noelle Linden: :-)
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Torben (torben.trautman): and then we see
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Tree Kyomoonri: Ashton: bye bye :)
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Rand (rand.linden): OK, thx i guess i missed that!
* [2011/03/24 15:03] (identity.euler): thank you see you next week
* [2011/03/24 15:03] link Kiranov: bye bye !!
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Slatan Dryke: bye
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Ourasi Ferraris: 
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Ourasi Ferraris: bye noelle
* [2011/03/24 15:03] BlckCobra Shikami: bye all - have a great evening/night
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Lexie (lexie.linden): Bye for now 
* [2011/03/24 15:03] Irene Muni: Agree boroondas, I wrote a comment about thatb in the Private Forum
* [2011/03/24 15:04] Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh): bye bye everyone
* [2011/03/24 15:04] Torben (torben.trautman): bye all
* [2011/03/24 15:04] Samia (samia.bechir): byebye all, take care and have fun :)
* [2011/03/24 15:04] Cummere Mayo: torben get with me tommorrow
* [2011/03/24 15:04] Rand (rand.linden): bye!!
* [2011/03/24 15:04] Ourasi Ferraris: 
* [2011/03/24 15:04] Ourasi Ferraris: bye Lexie
* [2011/03/24 15:04] Slatan Dryke: /me runs at home to check all the links !!
* [2011/03/24 15:04] Ourasi Ferraris: bye all have funnnn
* [2011/03/24 15:04] link Kiranov: i don't like to be checked ^^