WeRe Bank

WeRe Bank is a scam company that claims to be a bank. Founded by self-proclaimed freeman Alan Peter Smith (aka Peter of England] or PoE), victims pay him British pounds sterling and enormous promissory notes (£150,000) in exchange for fake, fraudulent cheque books that pay out money in what has been described by an impartial observer as "imaginary energy units"Financial Ombudsman Service, DRN8341979. These are then supposed to be used to settle debts.
In case you were wondering, this scheme doesn't work.
==The concept==
WeRe Banks’ website used to be hosted at www.werebank.com, before moving to www.werebank.co.uk for some reason possibly being related to it being nothing more than an elaborate fraud. According to the Financial Ombudsman Service, its explanation for how its service worked was as follows:
To translate this into non-bollocks language:
* You sign a note promising to pay WeRe the sum of £150,000 on demand. You also send a monthly subscription in cash to them in pounds sterling.
* In exchange, WeRe sends you a cheque book.
* WeRe cheques are legal tender and therefore are as good as cash.
* You send these cheques to people you owe money to and hope that they or their bankers are credulous enough to accept cheques drawn on a bank they've never heard of.
* In the event that they are that credulous, the cheques are "paid" by the process of deducting "Re" — a form of energy which doesn't actually exist — from a Re account held in your name at WeRe Bank. The concept is thus that due to conservation of energy, by deducting Re energy from your account then that energy has to go somewhere, and that somewhere is the payee of the cheque; and due to the mechanics of double-entry bookkeeping, any debit they input at their side must be matched with a credit somewhere else.
===The reality===
* The cheques bear invalid clearing details. In fact, the sort code (bank identifier) on the cheques is the WeRe Bank's founder's date of birth backwards. This means that even if WeRe did have the funds to pay out on the cheques, which they don't, they'd still never be paid.
* Banks and local authorities are aware of the WeRe scam and will intercept the cheques.http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?p=213613#p213613 The UK's financial regulator has warned against accepting them or signing up for them as the company is not authorised to conduct any banking business (while also noting that the company doesn't actually conduct any authorised banking business, which should ring alarm bells).Financial Conduct Authority Consumer Notice — WeRe Bank
* Cheques aren't legal tender to begin with, let alone ones that only pay out in imaginary energy.
* The cheques will bounce because the "Re" energy unit is completely made up and no bank accepts payment for debts in imaginary energy.
* The one kernel of reality however is that not only is your cash actually gone, but that promissory note is apparently actually legally bindingFrom the TMW decision: "Mr O has signed a contract in the form of a promissory note to pay WeRe Bank £150,000. I don’t know if WeRe Bank will ever call in the promissory note. But I’ve looked at the template on its website and it seems to me to create a legally binding obligation on Mr O to pay the money if WeRe Bank demands it.".
The whole thing is also based on a hilarious twisting of what "double entry accounting" means. The theory is that by "debiting" a ledger on WeRe's side, then spontaneously a "credit" must be input on some other entity's ledgers, or else something will be out of balance that will need to be corrected. Technically this is indeed how it works... but only within a single set of ledgers. You cannot just say "I have debited myself £1,000,000" to make someone else's ledger credit itself with £1,000,000, and you doing so does not compel them to create a matching transaction absent some other sort of legal obligation. There is nothing particularly magical about accounting records that makes them spontaneously affect other peoples' accounting records.
WeRe Bank has apparently opted out of the usual SWIFT money transfer system and instead has devised its own, hilariously called SPIT and SWALLOW. Really."WeRe Bank isn’t a member of the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication [“SWIFT”] system for inter-bank transfer of electronic funds. This is the system used globally by banks to transfer funds. Instead, WeRe Bank has invented its own systems – SPIT (Secure Protocol Information Transaction) and SWALLOW (Secure Waygate – Allow)"
As pointed out by numerous people, WeRe are themselves not stupid enough to accept their own cheques as payment for their services. They want good old hard currency posted to them. That should be a warning sign.
== Case study ==
Despite this being transparent bullshit, people have actually fallen for the WeRe Bank scam. The Financial Ombudsman Service's resident freeman woo spotter (as noted on the mortgage invalidity page) Jan O'Leary wrote a long decision describing WeRe bank and the mechanism by which they purport to work. It's worth reading in full simply to see what it looks like when a serious person has to remain calm and composed when describing the most egregious bullshit they've ever seen; it's positively dripping with contempt for WeRe and anyone who thinks it might work.
Mr and Mrs O sent their mortgage lender a WeRe Bank cheque £67,500 to settle their mortgage account. Oddly enough, it wasn't accepted, and Mr and Mrs O decided to complain about this. Some choice quotes from the poor person who was stuck investigating this:
Oddly enough the complaint wasn't upheld.
==See also==
*Bitcoin
*Mortgage invalidity, a similar pie-in-the-sky scheme to get rid of your debt that doesn't work
==External links==
*WeRe bank as it existed before the energy disappeared (Archive.org, October 13, 2015)
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==References==
Category:Economics
Category:Pseudolaw