НУ КТО БЫ СОМНЕВАЛСЯ!рапорт засекречен... (скорее всего, навсегда)агнлийскийhttp://robinwestenra.blogspot.nl/2014/08/mh17-explaining-silence.htmlрусский: http://www.unian.net/politics/950394-dannyie-rassledovaniya-katastrofyi-boinga-budut-oglashenyi-pri-soglasii-storon-gpu.htmlTuesday, 19 August 2014MH17: Explaining the silenceHolland, Belgium, Australia & Ukraine signed a “Non-Disclosure Agreement” 10 days ago that prevents any of them from disclosing the results of the MH17 investigation and gives any one of them arbitrary veto power over disclosure which is binding on the other signatories. It's still fuzzy about Malaysia; at first Malaysia "categorically refused to sign”, then it might have signed in a hush-hush manner. No official confirmation from Kuala Lumpur.---Mark Sleboda (https://www.facebook.com/gramsci?fref=nf)The results of the investigation of the death of the Boeing 777 classifiedUkraine, the Netherlands, Australia and Belgium on August 8, signed a non-disclosure agreement of data obtained during the investigationРезультаты следствия гибели Боинга-777 засекретили.Live Journal,13 August, 2014Via Yandex TranslateIn the framework of the 4-way agreement signed on 8 August between Ukraine, the Netherlands, Belgium and Australia, informationon the progress and results of the investigation of the disaster Malaysian Boeing 777” will be kept private.As UNIAN correspondent, about the 10th of August at a briefing in Kyiv said the speaker of the Prosecutor General Yuri Boychenko. In his words, in the course of the investigation continue investigation and other investigative actions - their results will be published on completion of the investigation and only if a consensus agreement of all parties that have signed a corresponding agreement.Data loss flight MH17 in Donetsk region will be published with the consent of all parties who participate in investigation. Any of the signatories has the right to veto the publication of the results of the investigation without explanation.The GPU noted that currently, investigations are continuing, ongoing examination. Only after signing of this agreement, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine ratified the agreement on sending Malaysian staff to investigate the crash of a passenger liner "Malaysian airlines" in Donetsk regionInternational experts admit that for the survey of the wreck Malaysian Boeing 777 will take several weeks.The second phase searches the remains of the victims of the crash of flight MH17 will be discussed next week.Thus, it is safe to assume the results of the investigation are actually classified and the final expert opinion or will not be released ever (the precedent is already there), or only after a few years, when the political causes of the disaster will lose its relevance.The conclusion is simple - the intermediate results of the investigation directly prove the innocence of Russia and/or DND to death Malaysian liner and it is strictly not satisfied with countries-signatories. Of course this does not apply to ordinary citizens or relatives of victims of the disaster, and to the ruling political elites of these countries.P.S. the Only country refused (in absolute terms) to sign this agreement, Malasia. But it is today.http://gordonua.com/news/mh17crash/Rada-progolosovala-soglashenie-s-Malayziey-o-rabote-inostrannyh-ekspertov-na-meste-krusheniya-Boeing-777-36038.htmlhttp://gordonua.com/news/mh17crash/Rukovoditel-missii-Obsledovanie-mesta-krusheniya-Boeing-777-mozhet-zanyat-neskolko-nedel-34698.htmlhttp://gordonua.com/news/mh17crash/Reshenie-o-vtoroy-faze-poiskov-na-meste-avarii-MH17-primut-na-sleduyushchey-nedele-35306.htmlhttp://gordonua.com/news/mh17crash/GPU-Rezultaty-rassledovaniya-krusheniya-Boeing-777-budut-obnarodovany-po-soglasiyu-storon-sledstviya-36089.htmlhttp://www.unian.net/politics/950394-dannyie-rassledovaniya-katastrofyi-boinga-budut-oglashenyi-pri-soglasii-storon-gpu.htmlThis is an earlier report from the semi-official New Straits Times in MalaysiaUS analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft New Straits Times,7 August, 2014KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.In a damning report dated Aug 3, headlined “Flight 17 Shoot-Down Scenario Shifts”, Associated Press reporter Robert Parry said “some US intelligence sources had concluded that the rebels and Russia were likely not at fault and that it appears Ukrainian government forces were to blame”.This new revelation was posted on GlobalResearch, an independent research and media organisation.In a statement released by the Ukrainian embassy on Tuesday, Kiev denied that its fighters were airborne during the time MH17 was shot down. This follows a statement released by the Russian Defence Ministry that its air traffic control had detected Ukrainian Air Force activity in the area on the same day.They also denied all allegations made by the Russian government and said the country’s core interest was in ensuring an immediate, comprehensive, transparent and unbiased international investigation into the tragedy by establishing a state commission comprising experts from the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) and Eurocontrol.“We have evidence that the plane was downed by Russian-backed terrorist with a BUK-M1 SAM system (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation reporting name SA-11) which, together with the crew, had been supplied from Russia. This was all confirmed by our intelligence, intercepted telephone conversations of the terrorists and satellite pictures.“At the same time, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have never used any anti-aircraft missiles since the anti-terrorist operations started in early April,” the statement read.Yesterday, the New Straits Times quoted experts who had said that photographs of the blast fragmentation patterns on the fuselage of the airliner showed two distinct shapes — the shredding pattern associated with a warhead packed with “flechettes”, and the more uniform, round-type penetration holes consistent with that of cannon rounds.Parry’s conclusion also stemmed from the fact that despite assertions from the Obama administration, there has not been a shred of tangible evidence to support the conclusion that Russia supplied the rebels with the BUK-M1 anti-aircraft missile system that would be needed to hit a civilian jetliner flying at 33,000 feet.Parry also cited a July 29 Canadian Broadcasting Corporation interview with Michael Bociurkiw, one of the first Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) investigators to arrive at the scene of the disaster, near Donetsk.Bociurkiw is a Ukrainian-Canadian monitor with OSCE who, along with another colleague, were the first international monitors to reach the wreckage after flight MH17 was brought down over eastern Ukraine.In the CBC interview, the reporter in the video preceded it with: “The wreckage was still smouldering when a small team from the OSCE got there. No other officials arrived for days”.“There have been two or three pieces of fuselage that have been really pockmarked with what almost looks like machinegun fire; very, very strong machinegun fire,” Bociurkiw said in the interview.Parry had said that Bociurkiw’s testimony is “as close to virgin, untouched evidence and testimony as we’ll ever get. Unlike a black-box interpretation-analysis long afterward by the Russian, British or Ukrainian governments, each of which has a horse in this race, this testimony from Bociurkiw is raw, independent and comes from one of the two earliest witnesses to the physical evidence.“That’s powerfully authoritative testimony. Bociurkiw arrived there fast because he negotiated with the locals for the rest of the OSCE team, who were organising to come later,” Parry had said.Retired Lufthansa pilot Peter Haisenko had also weighed in on the new shootdown theory with Parry and pointed to the entry and exit holes centred around the cockpit.“You can see the entry and exit holes. The edge of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points most likely that of a 30mm caliber projectile.“The edge of the other, the larger and slightly frayed exit holes, show shreds of metal pointing produced by the same caliber projectiles. Moreover, it is evident that these exit holes of the outer layer of the double aluminum reinforced structure are shredded or bent — outwardly.”He deduced that in order to have some of those holes fraying inwardly, and the others fraying outwardly, there had to have been a second fighter firing into the cockpit from the airliner’s starboard side. This is critical, as no surface-fired missile (or shrapnel) hitting the airliner could possibly punch holes into the cockpit from both sides of the plane.“It had to have been a hail of bullets from both sides that brought the plane down. This is Haisenko’s main discovery. You can’t have projectiles going in both directions — into the left-hand-side fuselage panel from both its left and right sides — unless they are coming at the panel from different directions.“Nobody before Haisenko had noticed that the projectiles had ripped through that panel from both its left side and its right side. This is what rules out any ground-fired missile,” Parry had said.Posted by seemorerocks at 11:46