85484-update-notes-build-67454-6262014

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Fixed an issue where quest spells were not showing up on the Quest Tracker as they were intended.
Fixed an issue that prevented vendor's "Repair All" button from working.
Fixed a bug that was causing Stalker’s “Last Stand” to trigger more than intended after they were healed prior to dying.	
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			That was the "HotFix"? 	
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That was...minimal.
Was really hoping for a way to report BOTs, they are ruining the game experience for me at the moment.	
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That was the "HotFix"? 
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			No KV Fix for the second boss, that's really disappointing considering you told us you had a fix coming....	
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			Hot fixes usually are, you may be thinking of a patch?  if this was a patch I'd agree	
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			There are always thing's they fix/change that are not reported on the patch notes even so this does seem particularly small, however every fix is another off the list and the game is improving with regards to bugs.	
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That was the "HotFix"? 
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That was...minimal.
Was really hoping for a way to report BOTs, they are ruining the game experience for me at the moment.
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No KV Fix for the second boss, that's really disappointing considering you told us you had a fix coming....
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Fixed an issue that prevented vendor's "Repair All" button from working.
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That was the "HotFix"? 
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			The game needs to be down for 90 minutes for this?	
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Bot report in one click
 
http://www.curse.com/ws-addons/wildstar/221726-oneclickbotreport	
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Fixed an issue that prevented vendor's "Repair All" button from working. 
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			this hotfix is so lol-tastic. 90 minutes of downtime for this...this garbage...lol lol lol	
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Fixed an issue that prevented vendor's "Repair All" button from working.
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/ticket
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			Sorry just figured to see......... more? Crafting items not able to be crafted, the architect cybene npc in malgrave not being there preventing architects from completing daily quest, retarded drop rate for SS amps (TF and PS), fixes for KV (2nd boss as mentioned above), BOT reporting (especially the farming teleport bots), just to name a few.	
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			I like that you guys are fixing things, but couldn't this have waited until there was more to patch?	
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The game needs to be down for 90 minutes for this?
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That was...minimal.
Was really hoping for a way to report BOTs, they are ruining the game experience for me at the moment.
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I swore I'd never post on the forums, but this is getting kinda silly.
 
The only thing that was worthy of a hotfix here was maybe the Stalker bug (quest items could still be used by hitting T. it'll try using all quest items anyway.) I thought hotfixes were supposed to be for emergency, game-breaking bugs that have a fix to roll out. Things like this could've easily been saved for the weekly.	
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I like that you guys are fixing things, but couldn't this have waited until there was more to patch?
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Love all this crying about "That's it" when in like 4days to a week we are getting a huge patch that covers a 1000+ Issues.
 
 
God kids are onry little brats these days and want everything now now now. Be greatful for once.	
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Love all this crying about "That's it" when in like 4days to a week we are getting a huge patch that covers a 1000+ Issues.
 
 
God kids are onry little brats these days and want everything now now now. Be greatful for once.
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			GG STALKERS NO RE	
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			Bots made me angry at first... then I remembered... NEIGHBORS!  Add Majikulz on Warbringer for minerals 50/50 share pls!	
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			So 90 minutes to fix Repair All?  But no fix for bots, KV second boss aggro dump.  Any other multitude of issues.  Anticlimatic.	
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Hey guys!
 
While we appreciate your enthusiasm, I'd like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that hotfixes naturally are not large in scope. Instead, they are special deployments with a laser-sharp focus to address a particular set of issues. 
 
More fixes (or ones that require a lot of code change) are handled in Weekly Patches, which require a completely new build version. Essentially, a longer pipeline.
 
And beyond that, we have Content Drops. This is what the up-coming Strain Ultra Drop is. And it's bringing with it hundreds of changes! (You should go check out our PTR!)
 
Cougar has a pretty detailed post explaining all the nitty-gritty bits for those of you who are inclined for some late night reading.	
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You kids need to learn how to read.
 
This was realm MAINTENANCE.
 
Be happy they included a few minor fixes in with it. 
 
 	
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			Don't get me wrong I appreciate the stalker fix. I guess I just expected more of the bugs to be fixed before the new patch rolled in which will probably add even more bugs to an already buggy game.	
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Sorry just figured to see......... more? Crafting items not able to be crafted, the architect cybene npc in malgrave not being there preventing architects from completing daily quest, retarded drop rate for SS amps (TF and PS), fixes for KV (2nd boss as mentioned above), BOT reporting (especially the farming teleport bots), just to name a few.
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Hotfix =/= Major Patch
 
Seriously guys, it's like you expect the full deal out of something in which they intend to only fix like 1-3 things. Plus, they also do some background stuff that is "not important to us".
 
And remember how everyone was all like "fix the stalker Neutralize Bug!11!!!" and when they did, it broke even worse to where it wouldn't do damage at all? There needs to be extensive testing to make sure its actually fixed. It's not exactly like fixing a water leak you know.	
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I also find it funny. Because the "That's it" includes a massively exploitable Stalker bug that by all rights should have been pushed out as soon as it was ready.
 
Anyone who has come across Stalker flag carriers in Walatiki should know how much this was needed.
 
The main problem I think most people are having is the length of downtime for it. Which I can understand to a degree.
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			That's just the general message for ingame. They posted on twitter that this was indeed a hotfix and proof being in OP, but Delakron makes a valid point. I'm just worried that by not fixing the many little bugs that are in game now that it will multiply once the Strain Ultra Drop releases. Especially with so many people pondering whether or not to sub once their first 30 days are up because of all the problems listed above, (and that's just a handful).	
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Nice fixes. I'm hoping at least that the restart will find my defunct white HVG 4 with its stats back at blue quality.
 
One can hope.	
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That was the "HotFix"? 
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That was...minimal.
Was really hoping for a way to report BOTs, they are ruining the game experience for me at the moment.
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That's just the general message for ingame. They posted on twitter that this was indeed a hotfix and proof being in OP, but Delakron makes a valid point. I'm just worried that by not fixing the many little bugs that are in game now that it will multiply once the Strain Ultra Drop releases. Especially with so many people pondering whether or not to sub once their first 30 days are up because of all the problems listed above, (and that's just a handful).
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That was...minimal.
Was really hoping for a way to report BOTs, they are ruining the game experience for me at the moment.
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The game needs to be down for 90 minutes for this?
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Well, the good news is they're banning them daily so we should see less and less of those anoying flying things that chops your tree a second before you collect it! But yeah, I agree that this was minimum.
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			Anyone else seem to be getting 'Patch Failed' due to being corrupt since this being dropped?	
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@ Delakron
 
Already ahead of you boss. Lol. Was just a little frustrated that a lot of the other bugs/problems have been going on for a while now. Also, I pretty much expected something for the teleport bots. 	
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Absolutely useless update...
 
Speedchack still work and speedhackers still farm in Algoroc.
 
TriggerFingers still just fantasy.
 
Dungeon bosses still bugged all like one.
 
But u "Fixed an issue where quest spells were not showing up on the Quest Tracker"
 
Hooray! *sarcasm*	
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Jeremy Gaffney posted on reddit earlier today saying he was in the middle of a large ban wave too.
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Bot report in one click
 
http://www.curse.com/ws-addons/wildstar/221726-oneclickbotreport
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			Still no memory leak fix? sigh....	
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			Hotfixes er generally small with only a couple of fixes in-between patches, and this time all the fixes were things I've encountered/annoyed me:) Kudos! Though I'll just mention here too that the bot issue is currently the worst problem for me in this game.	
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Sadly, they could ban a million bots a day and it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference. Banning daily or weekly or monthly or whatever is a passive form of anti-botting. They need to take active forms of anti-botting or they will never get the bot problem under control. The botters will ALWAYS have more accounts, ready and waiting. When they get banned, they just sigh (maybe not even that) and shift to the new accounts. They will never run out of accounts because there will never be an end to the people who are too stupid to realize they need 2-step in their lives. So yeah, ban away. It won't change a thing.
 
EDIT: And I knew this patch wasn't going to include much. But I was surprised how little it included for the 90 minute time it was taking. I didn't realize that this was weekly maintenance as well. So now it makes sense. So yeah, I rescind my previous mocking of this downtime. My bad, I was uninformed, and that's my own fault.
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Bot report in one click
 
http://www.curse.com/ws-addons/wildstar/221726-oneclickbotreport
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Anyone studying Computer Science or anything closely related to programming can testify that debugging a few lines of code is tedious work. I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like to debug an entire game's worth of code.  The thought of it just scares me and makes me feel excited for what's left of my degree... *-*
 
Any who, give the guys a break! As it was stated, it was supposed to be just a maintenance, and if they cleared up a game-breaking bug, hell yeah! \o/
 
P.S.: Anyone having log in issues? D:	
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I guess I could see your logic to a point. If they're banning accounts they'd have like, what, 4 goes at it? Before they'd have to buy the game again or sucker someone into giving them another guest pass. It's not like this is a F2P game, where they can just make a new account and log back in and start over. Unless i'm missing something.
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Bot report in one click
 
http://www.curse.com/ws-addons/wildstar/221726-oneclickbotreport
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Guest clients are so limited that I doubt the botters use them. They can't trade/send mail or interact with other players in any such way as to give over money/mats, and they have a limit on how much currency they can hold (50 gold I think)
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I guess I could see your logic to a point. If they're banning accounts they'd have like, what, 4 goes at it? Before they'd have to buy the game again or sucker someone into giving them another guest pass. It's not like this is a F2P game, where they can just make a new account and log back in and start over. Unless i'm missing something.
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Yes, you are. But I don't say that to be mean. You see, the VAST majority of botter accounts are hacked accounts or accounts purchased with stolen/fraudulent credit cards. So the accounts cost them nothing. And they always have a steady supply. And honestly, they don't really have to do anything. People willing give them their accounts and credit card info all the time (when they buy gold). And if you don't think people buy gold very much, realize that if people didn't buy gold very much, the goldsellers wouldn't be able to make a profit, and therefore, there wouldn't be any goldsellers. Since there are TONS of bots and TONS of goldsellers, it can be inferred that it's REALLY good business, which means a LOT of people buy from them.
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So then they are rebuying the game? I don't see how that's helping them much.
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That was...minimal.
Was really hoping for a way to report BOTs, they are ruining the game experience for me at the moment.
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Still no memory leak fix? sigh....
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The upcoming Content Drop contains hundreds of fixes too, not just new content. But new bugs are an inevitable fact of software development (but you can help minimize these by helping us test on the Public Test Realm).  ^_^
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You can by doing /ticket and then sending it in with the name of the player
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			The amount of whining in this thread is so *cupcake*ing unreal it's like being on the WoW forums........This was schedule maintenance..... MAINTENANCE that means it was to take the servers down and run diagnostics / check hardware / fix stuff / try not to spill coffee on them.They thought that this would be a perfect time to push some fixes that were ready for live and had been through QA into the game.Also the people complaining "WAAAA why is this not fixed? Why did you fix that and not this!?!?!"Please you are taking your time to complain on the forums, how about you go and spend your time reading them too? Almost everything someone has complained about has been fixed internally and going through QA or is already listed in the MAJOR PATCH coming next week.Honestly I think the most productive thing Carbine could do right now is to hire so *cupcake*ing baby sitters to moniter the forums for them.	
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The amount of whining in this thread is so *cupcake*ing unreal it's like being on the WoW forums........
 
This was schedule maintenance..... MAINTENANCE that means it was to take the servers down and run diagnostics / check hardware / fix stuff / try not to spill coffee on them.
 
They thought that this would be a perfect time to push some fixes that were ready for live and had been through QA into the game.
 
Also the people complaining "WAAAA why is this not fixed? Why did you fix that and not this!?!?!"
 
Please you are taking your time to complain on the forums, how about you go and spend your time reading them too? Almost everything someone has complained about has been fixed internally and going through QA or is already listed in the MAJOR PATCH coming next week.
 
Honestly I think the most productive thing Carbine could do right now is to hire so *cupcake*ing baby sitters to moniter the forums for them.
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Gotta love people bitching like a bunch of 5 year olds who didn't get a chocolate bar in their lunch. C'mon people they have a huge patch coming within the next week or two with large fixes and additional content. As for the time it takes to fix something they don't just copy paste things, they have to apply the fix to every server then make sure it takes and isn't breaking something immediately.
 
 
But no you want your chocolate bar "RIGHT NOW", grow up.	
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			Hotfix= small fixes in game codes or changes. Patch=content addition or update adding more to the game.	
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lol, ok or is it me..   
 
most of us are a little frazzled by the amount of bugs we see while trying to lvl up...   why on earth would we want to go on the PTR to find bugs...    oh and my bank details are...   and i would like to only test for you on thursdays for oh lets say never...    fix your game..   and develop and fix your issues on in house testing servers or maybe pay some company to come test it for you... as they do exist..  
 
lame a$$ developer 
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One thing that a lot of these hotfix's seem to have in common is that there very under whelming! In most cases you dont address the main concerns for your paying customers and instead hotfix very secondary concerns.
 
Stop aiming for completion and start going for gold cupcakes!	
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			time check	
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lol, ok or is it me..   
 
most of us are a little frazzled by the amount of bugs we see while trying to lvl up...   why on earth would we want to go on the PTR to find bugs...    oh and my bank details are...   and i would like to only test for you on thursdays for oh lets say never...    fix your game..   and develop and fix your issues on in house testing servers or maybe pay some company to come test it for you... as they do exist..  
 
lame a$$ developer 
 
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Sadly, they could ban a million bots a day and it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference. Banning daily or weekly or monthly or whatever is a passive form of anti-botting. They need to take active forms of anti-botting or they will never get the bot problem under control. The botters will ALWAYS have more accounts, ready and waiting. When they get banned, they just sigh (maybe not even that) and shift to the new accounts. They will never run out of accounts because there will never be an end to the people who are too stupid to realize they need 2-step in their lives. So yeah, ban away. It won't change a thing.
 
EDIT: And I knew this patch wasn't going to include much. But I was surprised how little it included for the 90 minute time it was taking. I didn't realize that this was weekly maintenance as well. So now it makes sense. So yeah, I rescind my previous mocking of this downtime. My bad, I was uninformed, and that's my own fault.
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The amount of whining in this thread is so *cupcake*ing unreal it's like being on the WoW forums........
 
This was schedule maintenance..... MAINTENANCE that means it was to take the servers down and run diagnostics / check hardware / fix stuff / try not to spill coffee on them.
 
They thought that this would be a perfect time to push some fixes that were ready for live and had been through QA into the game.
 
Also the people complaining "WAAAA why is this not fixed? Why did you fix that and not this!?!?!"
 
Please you are taking your time to complain on the forums, how about you go and spend your time reading them too? Almost everything someone has complained about has been fixed internally and going through QA or is already listed in the MAJOR PATCH coming next week.
 
Honestly I think the most productive thing Carbine could do right now is to hire so *cupcake*ing baby sitters to moniter the forums for them.
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			Time check again...!	
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I mean I don't know what to say. Oh yeah. They apparently fixed the stalker issue before and it made it worse. Also just about every fix/patch where they fix some other things get broken, (which I know is a common thing), but even with that being said you're trying to convince people that have a huge content patch with lots of fixes is gonna solve this. Lolz. So far it's been acknowledged with the aforementioned that when things get fixed new stuff break and on top of that the new content WILL have bugs. So, we should stop complaining about having them fix things first before releasing new content so they can do it all at the same time and not double the bugs? Good luck with that *cupcake*!!
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This post may pique your interest.
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			i keep hoping for the " fixed a bug that allows gold farms to warp from zone to zone farming at he material to sell.	
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The game needs to be down for 90 minutes for this?
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			Please fix the House farming bug where our hard-earned plants keep disappearing for no legitimate reason.  I have already lost literally hundreds of seeds due to this with nothing to show for them and the hours it took to acquire them...	
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lol, ok or is it me..   
 
most of us are a little frazzled by the amount of bugs we see while trying to lvl up...   why on earth would we want to go on the PTR to find bugs...    oh and my bank details are...   and i would like to only test for you on thursdays for oh lets say never...    fix your game..   and develop and fix your issues on in house testing servers or maybe pay some company to come test it for you... as they do exist..  
 
lame a$$ developer 
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Anyone else seem to be getting 'Patch Failed' due to being corrupt since this being dropped?
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			As much as I see people complaining, its not like this an easy job to do. Especially at this magnitude.  Yes, A hot fix is supposed to be fast, but when that fix causes a slew of other writing issues, thos have to be addressed as well.  Give the devs a bit of slack, its not like you are correcting the problems yourselves	
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I'm also experiencing the "failed to connect to patch server" - but this only happened after it initially patched and I was able to launch the game (logged in said no realms available, exited game, tried again ~5 mins later and met the error).
 
Edit: Fixed	
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			cool for the repair all button fix but, i mean swordmaiden you kill the last boss and won't even give a medal thats kind of a big issue that should be a priority 	
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the patch notes....
 	
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I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything but only to point out their own stupidity.
 
Did I say anywhere in my post that this "Major Patch" was going to be a magical rainbow unicorn that is going to whisk us all away to 'Happy Land' a place where bugs don't exist? No.
 
I did however, if you would like to reread what I said that people are taking the time to complain about things before even informing themselves.
 
I guess it's true you can't reason with stupidity though.
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			Guys... companies tend not to put exploit fixes in patch notes. 	
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			I would have loved to see a fix to the abysmal leather drops for Survivalists but these are good fixes. Hopefully the leather fix comes soon...	
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Shame you still haven't fixed the *cupcake*ing patcher error being stuck at 0% and having to use a VPN just to patch.
ridiculous.	
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			again Patch faild, so annyoing really	
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			So, I guess I will ask here Delakron.. According to the main site 6/26/2014 states that new housing plugs will be available today. I stayed up with a few other crafters ready to capitalize on the new fabkits and to check them out. They however have not been added in the game. Does this mean later today they are going to be added or... are we just going to ignore this and move on? 	
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Love all this crying about "That's it" when in like 4days to a week we are getting a huge patch that covers a 1000+ Issues.
 
 
God kids are onry little brats these days and want everything now now now. Be greatful for once.
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So, I guess I will ask here Delakron.. According to the main site 6/26/2014 states that new housing plugs will be available today. I stayed up with a few other crafters ready to capitalize on the new fabkits and to check them out. They however have not been added in the game. Does this mean later today they are going to be added or... are we just going to ignore this and move on? 
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Gang, I'm just as angry with the bots as everyone else, but I'm also an IT student so trust me when I say that dealing with them isn't as easy as pushing the 'no more bots' button.
 
There's no way to stop the bots themselves completely, I can't speak for other servers, but on mine they're all compromised accounts (their names being actual names rather than just gibberish like 'ghwaeoithrwaeo the chua' is the giveaway). Whats happened is that people's passwords got stolen, either through a phishing scam or a keylogger virus or something similar, and some gold farmers are using their characters as bots. So long as there are people who fall for such or don't do virus scans (and there will be, believe me) there will be bots.
 
What I'd imagine Carbine's first priority will be is to find out how they're using that hack to zip around the zones like they have a teleporter taped to their back and putting the kibosh on it. That one will be a lot simpler since its clearly a technical problem and they can work out a way to stop it from working for them. This won't get rid of the bots entirely, but they will be forced to run around the zones like the rest of us and will most likely be eaten by skeech since they're mindless programs and not actual player characters. Its not a guarantee, but it will help a lot since it'll be taking away their major advantage over player characters. After that it's a simple matter of see bot -> report bot -> ban bot.
 
I get that everyone is frustrated and I get that it's no fun to climb past a horde of chompacobra to get to a mineral node only to see a lobotomized aurin teleport in, grab it, and vanish like the Road Runner, but these sorts of fixes take time. Even companies like Blizzard with all their resources (and lawyers) can't stop this sort of thing entirely. Give Carbine the benefit of the doubt and trust that their programmers will find a way to, if not stop the bots completely, at least cripple them so that they're forced to farm like the rest of us.	
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			It would be nice to not have to delete the game every time you guys hot fix, patch, and or not limited to whatever just to get the patcher to work.	
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If you guys would take 30 mins out of the day to just ban these obvious bots, it would be great. We have bots in guilds called "I'm not a bot" as they teleport around snatching up resource node.. We also have hackers(well script kiddies) with names like "hakker" completely ruining PvP. My guildie even told me about how these 3 guys were trying to camp him by teleporting around looking for him. Luckily he was a stalker. It's become a sad joke and it almost feels like all of this is accepted behavior. 
 
Carbine you need to clean up your game. You are allowing botters and hackers to ruin an otherwise fun experience. I wouldn't have such a huge issue if I felt like something was being done. However, the fact that I recently saw a hacker that I(and others) have reported awhile ago really has me annoyed. 	
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			On the very surface, this appears to be the most ungrateful, demanding MMO community I've ever encountered.  Carbine, whatever it is you're doing to *cupcake* these guys off, keep going so they'll leave.  Or perhaps try to entice them to volunteer their superior technical expertise since they know how to run a company and issues better than anyone else.  I know my opinion will be unpopular, but it's gotten to the point where I can predict all the forum QQ every time a HOTFIX is deployed for this game.  Hotfixes happen in every other game I've ever played and never have so many people demanded that the game should be in a 100% bug-free state at any given time.  If that's what they expect, they better pack their bags and get off their computers because there has never been a bug-free piece of software in the history of such.  This is coming from a level 50 engineer.  I've encountered bugs.  *cupcake* yes I have.  But are my panties in 57 distinct knots right now because a hotfix was deployed that didn't address my personal issues?!  No.  My panties are mangled for other reasons.	
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If you guys would take 30 mins out of the day to just ban these obvious bots, it would be great. We have bots in guilds called "I'm not a bot" as they teleport around snatching up resource node.. We also have hackers(well script kiddies) with names like "hakker" completely ruining PvP. My guildie even told me about how these 3 guys were trying to camp him by teleporting around looking for him. Luckily he was a stalker. It's become a sad joke and it almost feels like all of this is accepted behavior. 
 
Carbine you need to clean up your game. You are allowing botters and hackers to ruin an otherwise fun experience. I wouldn't have such a huge issue if I felt like something was being done. However, the fact that I recently saw a hacker that I(and others) have reported awhile ago really has me annoyed. 
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https://twitter.com/Cougardc/status/481689667847610368
 
Oh, oops.  He spent 45 minutes, not 30.  Oh no.
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to everyone who complains about bots
there isnt any game out where no one can bot
also if iam not wrong carbain/ncsoft is in teh usa where the law doesnt allows them to check your computer for running software
ncsoft had and still have the problem with lineage 2 they just cant get rid of the bots cuz the anti cheat cant detect it and they are not allowed to check the computer for running software while private servers have a much bettter protection than the official one but the Eu lineage 2 server has bots aswell but much less cuz they are allowed to run a diffrent anti cheat software which actually checks your system for running software so u guy have to deal with it and just w8 for ban waves
its sad but true	
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What is this? A weekly path? :unsure:
 
One month with downgraded path skills. Nice work! :wacko:	
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Hey I appreciate even these small hot fix patches. Every little bit helps.
 
I think what people have to keep in mind is that there are HUNDREDS of bugs they are currently working on and its  not as simple as just making a few tweaks and saying everything is "OK" and patching them in during a hot fix. They have to test the fixes to make sure they aren't causing any new bugs. Its a process, and one I'm thankful for. I rather they take their time and fix it right than to through duct tape at it and hope it doesn't cause any new problems.
 
Thanks Carbine keep up the good work :D 	
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			If their not complaining there not happy. That being said this game is awesome and when you can't get on or you can't enjoy it like most  would like people tend to get a bit over zealious with there comments. So all this moaning and groaning could be take possitively as much as it has been taken negatively. If  i am paying then I better be playing attidudes that most folks have is probably because they love this game so much they want it to be perfect. Granted it won't be perfect yet until they work the issues out and I know that and I am sure the ones that post the most retarded pictures to poke fun at the devs knows it too. if they don't well you can't fix stupid you can only ignore it.	
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I like that you guys are fixing things, but couldn't this have waited until there was more to patch?
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Yey repair fix! :)
 
Anyhow, i love to read all the posts and 90% of them are clueless about how programming works, how long things take time and how many developers / outsourced people are on this. Yet you act like ungreatfull little brats.
 
Im not a fanboy, nor a fan-man i just know how long things take, beeing a programmer in a large company my self, so just take a chill-pill and relax. Also i hardly think that we will see a "We implemented this anti-hack and it works like this: < insert possible fix here >" because that is just asking to get hacked again, and again.
 
Anyhow Carbine and whoever you guys else got working on this game, keep up the good work! 
 
o/
Octanen	
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			There's a lot of ungrateful shits in here. Thanks Carbine, for your amazing work and for putting up with these guys.	
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			I think people need to realize that the reason you see such small fixes is because they have adopted an AGILE approach to software development. Agile is about small incremental fixes or improvements. This doesn't mean there aren't big patches ever, but in AGILE that is considered an EPIC. This is a best practice in Software Development nowadays and a lot of companies adopt this based on the flexibility it provides versus a Waterfall approach. 	
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Yey repair fix! :)
 
Anyhow, i love to read all the posts and 90% of them are clueless about how programming works, how long things take time and how many developers / outsourced people are on this. Yet you act like ungreatfull little brats.
 
Im not a fanboy, nor a fan-man i just know how long things take, beeing a programmer in a large company my self, so just take a chill-pill and relax. Also i hardly think that we will see a "We implemented this anti-hack and it works like this: < insert possible fix here >" because that is just asking to get hacked again, and again.
 
Anyhow Carbine and whoever you guys else got working on this game, keep up the good work! 
 
o/
Octanen
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Bot report in one click
 
http://www.curse.com/ws-addons/wildstar/221726-oneclickbotreport
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So, I guess I will ask here Delakron.. According to the main site 6/26/2014 states that new housing plugs will be available today. I stayed up with a few other crafters ready to capitalize on the new fabkits and to check them out. They however have not been added in the game. Does this mean later today they are going to be added or... are we just going to ignore this and move on? 
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its sad that the community is doing more about bots than the actual devs.
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Fixed a bug that was causing Stalker’s “Last Stand” to trigger more than intended after they were healed prior to dying.
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			only 1097 fixes to go!	
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			no hacker/bot prevention update and or hacker/bot report system improvement, no subscription :3	
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I have stopped logging in, and will likely not subscribe to the game until something is done about the AWFUL performance. This game simply should not run as badly as it does. I'm not going to get technical, but I have been doing this a LONG time, and my PC should be able to run this game at 100+ FPS with everything set to maximum. Period. Every time there is an update, I anxiously read the notes, hoping that SOMETHING is being done about this, and every time I am disappointed. Playing a game that is only marginally better looking than "that other game" (which is 10 years old, by the way), but stutters, hitches, and just generally runs like a pile of wet cupcakes*, is not something that I am willing to pay a sub for (or play free for that matter). This had better get addressed soon, or this game's future will be doomed. The chatter about WildStars's performance on other forums is decidedly negative, and ignoring it is not going to work out well at all.
 
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It seems many want things fixed yesterday.
 
Here's the thing, bugs are not as simple as that, maybe this visualizing will help you guys understand.
Ever taken your car to a mechanic? unless the problem was very very minor, they probably had to keep your car for some time, and this is with cars which largely function the same way they have for decades, though granted the new ones have computers in them, but other then that mechanically they much the same as they have been.
Now, this 'fix' the mechanic is doing, might take what, a day? maybe more? all depending on how easy it is to find the problem, most everyone can relate to this.
Now it can be argued that coding is easier to fix once found, but take the time the mechanic needs to take on a thing that is well known, and factor it up by a thousand or such at the very least, also factor in that much code is constantly changing and there is not likely one person that knows all the code, most likely impossible.
You think you could do it better? if so, submit helpful code, or better yet, find the way the bots teleport around and send it to carbine so they can know it and fix it. Whining about it does nothing but stress out people that are working on the problem.
 
TL;DR: Think about how long your mechanic takes to fix one problem, now multiply it by thousands at the very least.	
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I have stopped logging in, and will likely not subscribe to the game until something is done about the AWFUL performance. This game simply should not run as badly as it does. I'm not going to get technical, but I have been doing this a LONG time, and my PC should be able to run this game at 100+ FPS with everything set to maximum. Period. Every time there is an update, I anxiously read the notes, hoping that SOMETHING is being done about this, and every time I am disappointed. Playing a game that is only marginally better looking than "that other game" (which is 10 years old, by the way), but stutters, hitches, and just generally runs like a pile of wet cupcakes*, is not something that I am willing to pay a sub for (or play free for that matter). This had better get addressed soon, or this game's future will be doomed. The chatter about WildStars's performance on other forums is decidedly negative, and ignoring it is not going to work out well at all.
 
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"Fixed a bug that was causing Stalker’s “Last Stand” to trigger more than intended after they were healed prior to dying.Noooo! I was really enjoying that "Last Stand" Now it's going to be pointless! 	
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			Oh wow, I'm updating client for last 15 minutes just for "repair all" button get fixed? O_o	
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			STILL no fix for the mechsuit assault quest... unreal. going on over a week without being able to progress thru the attunement.	
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			I guess I'm one of the few ppl that think the DEV's are doing a great job.  Rome wasn't built in a day guys! 	
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That was...minimal.
Was really hoping for a way to report BOTs, they are ruining the game experience for me at the moment.
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I didn't realise Add-ons were banning bots/investigating hacked accounts and restoring player access... ;)
 
Okay, snark-mode deactivated, I know it's frustrating but things are happening and the teams are focused on stomping out bots/botting as quickly as possible. Sadly a lot of the things happening have to happen behind closed doors (because of security) so you can't see/hear about those results.
 
I believe one-click reporting for botting is being worked on, but don't have the details. It's great an add-on developer has stepped up to help in the meantime (devs are busy working on a ton of issues that add-ons CAN'T fix) but that doesn't mean we're doing "nothing".
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one click reporting i guess might work on pvp bots who just afk.  What about the bots who teleport and resource farm in a second because its hard enough catching a name like that.. also why isnt there an area that we the community can send you video recordings of bots.. surely that would speed up the suspension of an account until u can investigate properly.  Dont like name shaming? open an area where only the poster can read the thread outside of carbine.
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/ticket
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People willing give them their accounts and credit card info all the time (when they buy gold). And if you don't think people buy gold very much, realize that if people didn't buy gold very much, the goldsellers wouldn't be able to make a profit, and therefore, there wouldn't be any goldsellers.
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one click reporting i guess might work on pvp bots who just afk.  What about the bots who teleport and resource farm in a second because its hard enough catching a name like that.. also why isnt there an area that we the community can send you video recordings of bots.. surely that would speed up the suspension of an account until u can investigate properly.  Dont like name shaming? open an area where only the poster can read the thread outside of carbine.
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Well they could make a flagging mechanism though those have a tendency to be abused so maybe not. As in those that if a person gets flagged as bot with something like a simple report function x amount of times they instantly get booted and some such and account frozen until investigated. 
But yeah, "We can't have nice things" because of internet trolls basically, groups of people that gang together and report some people for 'fun', so yeah, thank the trolls for that. And most other ways to report require some sort of manual dev/GM attention, and with the amount of reports, it is going to take time, people don't seem to realize how massive a job it is, the "You can just hire more GM's" argument just doesn't work, since you'd need to hire x amount of GM's for every realm, and with how many realms there are across both NA and EU servers? yeah......that's a lot of hiring which doesn't just magically happen, and costs money, when they do not know how many people will stay after first month.
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			Too little too late.	
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you only need to stand next to one resource node in practically any zone and you would be banning 10 bots in 30 mins on a slow day.
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			Thanks and especially thanks for Repair All. When you die as much as I do that's a big one, ehe.	
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Wow I was just talking about the reapir button and all that
 
Love ya guys keep up the work very impressted and i know a lot more are :D	
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I guess I'm one of the few ppl that think the DEV's are doing a great job.  Rome wasn't built in a day guys! 
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			Please tell me the flickering water bug will be fixed in the content drop (at the furthest out)? It gives me eye strain and headaches...	
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https://twitter.com/Cougardc/status/481689667847610368
 
Oh, oops.  He spent 45 minutes, not 30.  Oh no.
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			So is the bug that was introduced in the Sunday night patch that broke rated battleground queues fixed? That should have absolutely been on the priority list as it is making the game unplayable for many people.	
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sooo 1 gm for every resource node for every server, for both EU and US........
 
not practical, maybe if they make bots on their own that run on a separate system via the client/GM login, that might be viable, and wouldn't bog down the game servers themselves. They have the code they could make it a million ways without even needing to load graphics.
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			I would much rather them do a lot of these small hotfixes and the associated tweaking they do while the servers are down and fix things than wait like some games for 2 weeks then totally screw things up worse cause they had patches so big that they couldn't keep it straight	
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			They really need to do something about these bots 	
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What about the bots who teleport and resource farm in a second because its hard enough catching a name like that.
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That was the "HotFix"? 
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			We're doomed, Are we doomed? We're doomed.	
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			God almighty, are people STILL complaining about the scope of hotfixes? How many times do they have to explain it?	
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Agree with you ... what about removing teleporters from game that mine all available mine in game? Or optimisation of lag that many experience (mainly ATI users as it looks)? All patches above could wait for another month but not closing exploits in game! I however believe they are much harder to fix, but still.
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There's other internal solutions for those kind of bots, sadly I can't really talk about them as it could tip cheaters off. ;)
 
Reviewing player submitted videos as evidence would be a very... difficult method to catch these guys in my opinion.
 
1) A lot of people would misuse it. Inappropriate videos, pleas for Support help/ban appeals, trying to clog up our reports etc.
2) It's only really viable for those who recording for long periods of time, by the time you start a capture the botter will be gone.
 
That said, if people do video capture they can go back, grab the bot name and report it to us anyway. Much easier for everything on our end.
 
I'll mention it to Support and see if it's something that would help them, but I expect not.
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Okay, snark-mode deactivated, I know it's frustrating but things are happening and the teams are focused on stomping out bots/botting as quickly as possible. Sadly a lot of the things happening have to happen behind closed doors (because of security) so you can't see/hear about those results.
 
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This was a Hot Fix, aka they fix a few things.
 
Hot Fix = A few fixes
Patch = Lots of fixes	
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But yeah, "We can't have nice things" because of internet trolls basically, groups of people that gang together and report some people for 'fun', so yeah, thank the trolls for that. 
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The lack of computing knowledge in this forum posting is abhorrent. It is apparent most have swallowed the blue pill.
 	
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Updated Note..... Yes sure  :mellow:
 
like Ninja :ph34r:	
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			If the quest tracker problems prevent people from playing the game and if the stalker can abuse this skill in pvp. Then yes, hotfix time much.	
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			Keep your pants on.  They'll be releasing a huge update.  Anyone complaining at the moment about broken PvP stats or bots needs to go outside for awhile.  The fact of the matter is that they haven't even released their huge monthly update yet.  All these things are in work and will be released.  As I said, keep your pants on.	
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"I've been doing this a long time"
"should be able to run at x fps"
 
Ok, in your 'long time' what are you basing your statements on that wildstar should perform 'better' then it does currently on your computer, I personally have only a few performance issues, and they don't really hinder anything.
If you have no programming and only gaming experience, you really have no right to claim anything, and if your computer is like the vast majority of 'gamers' out there, any 'bad' performance is very likely your own fault.
People tend to overlook the very basics of keeping your computer running well, install a lot of crap on them, toolbars, and a million other bloatware/malware things, and then complain about games not running well. Having fixed more computers then I want to count, I can tell you that magically expecting them to fix your specific performance issues is not very likely unless you give them the right feedback.
And unless your feedback comes from a fully reformatted and reinstalled computer, there are going to be factors, if you do not know how those factors work, please don't begin demanding them to fix it.
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to answer those stupid questions:
 
YES that was a hotfix indeed!
 
p.s. ty vm catrine for hotfixin the quest buttons in tracker (used to be very annoying bug) (don mind about those ungrateful players above. sry 4 bad english)	
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Yes, you can. If you are quick enough and remember the random letters they used to make that character in that little bit of time.
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Warriors need a hotfix on their Action Set 2.
 
I can use tremor on both Action Set 1 and 2, even with spending the proper AMP points.	
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			Feasting on the QQ in this thread, keep it coming.  B)	
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			FIX DARKNESS REVEALED	
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Please tell me the flickering water bug will be fixed in the content drop (at the furthest out)? It gives me eye strain and headaches...
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			I lol'd way too hard at the people who are butt hurt over 1 1/2 hours of downtime. Go eat, sleep, take a bath, let yer frustration out on a Chua plushie, you'll be alright.	
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Another Patch with Fixes, that also happens to lower my Frames. At launch I was sitting over 60fps Ultra settings, last patch 40fps Ultra settings, most recent..... 20fps on LOW settings! Every F****ing time I contact support you tell me to lower Graphics. How about fix your wildly un-optimized game. I am running at 20fps on low on a top of the line laptop that I bought 2 weeks ago. I mean it's a great game, and I have to say I am very impressed with it overall. But for the love of God. The rate at which patches are going, I wont be able to play the game next patch.  :wacko: I thought maybe you just really hate optimizing for AMD, but I have a friend with a Desktop GTX 560 having very similar results from patches. anyone curious of specs i7 4810mq
16Gb 1600 RAM
4gb AMD R9 M290x
Installed on Samsung SSD	
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			YES, repair all is fixed lol	
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			Could we get an update on the water+cloud flicker issue with nvidia cards please? Are you aware of it (someone posted that he spoke to Cougar about it)? And if so, is there any estimation for a fix?	
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Hey guys!
 
While we appreciate your enthusiasm, I'd like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that hotfixes naturally are not large in scope. Instead, they are special deployments with a laser-sharp focus to address a particular set of issues. 
 
More fixes (or ones that require a lot of code change) are handled in Weekly Patches, which require a completely new build version. Essentially, a longer pipeline.
 
And beyond that, we have Content Drops. This is what the up-coming Strain Ultra Drop is. And it's bringing with it hundreds of changes! (You should go check out our PTR!)
 
Cougar has a pretty detailed post explaining all the nitty-gritty bits for those of you who are inclined for some late night reading.
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WTT all those fixes for only one fix:
 
- Fixed exploit which allows bots to speed hack / teleport	
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That was...minimal.
Was really hoping for a way to report BOTs, they are ruining the game experience for me at the moment.
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There's other internal solutions for those kind of bots, sadly I can't really talk about them as it could tip cheaters off. ;)
 
Reviewing player submitted videos as evidence would be a very... difficult method to catch these guys in my opinion.
 
1) A lot of people would misuse it. Inappropriate videos, pleas for Support help/ban appeals, trying to clog up our reports etc.
2) It's only really viable for those who recording for long periods of time, by the time you start a capture the botter will be gone.
 
That said, if people do video capture they can go back, grab the bot name and report it to us anyway. Much easier for everything on our end.
 
I'll mention it to Support and see if it's something that would help them, but I expect not.
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			I repored like 6 Bots then posted here their names and then moderators report me cuz i dont have to post names..... nobody win.	
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@ everyone whining about the patch contents and 90 minute downtime - No matter how good you are unexpected delays will happen occasionally when updating software and 90 minutes is well within reasonable.  They were absolutely right in releasing the patch immediately as the stalker bug was game breaking.  The quest spell bug hasn't had a lot of commentary here, but it was also pretty large for those who are PvE primary.
 
@ Carbine - Thanks for addressing the stalker bug as soon as you could, and including the annoyance fixes as well.  We'd appreciate it if you would address the bot and gold farmer issues soon as well.  Btw, release was one of the smoothest I've experienced, great job.
 
Normally I hate posting stuff like this, but the lack of gratitude in this community amazes me.  Why is it that fan boys/girls rush to defend the companies that never listen to them and put out horrible games, but when Carbine pays attention to players and hotfixes a good game promptly all they get is whining?  Seriously, the first few pages of this thread was like listening a 2 year old cry because it took a while to get to an ice cream shop and then it didn't have all the flavors they wanted.	
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			Nice to see the repair all fixed. I would like to see the rune crafting bugged fixed. Not sure why I keep getting an "invalid item* when trying to equip a fusion slot in the fusion rune.	
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Do you have an ETA on the next big patch?  More pointedly I'm looking for the one that includes the fix for the memory leak (think it was estimated for "early" July?).
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id settle for one per region.
 
a single farming bot does soooo much dmg in a week.
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			Yes please fix something about the Bots they ruin the experience for all I remember u guys said "The Devs are Listening" please keep true to it thank you your loyal Dominion player :)	
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Every patch, big or small is greeted with whiners and complaints when in perspective; you have released patches, acknowledged work being done to resolve reported issues and done so consistently. I for one have suffered with FPS issues but these have recently been greatly improved. Further optimization is needed but considering the time the game has been released (not inc BETA) there has been consistent content changes, fixes, big or small and thanks for the hard work.
 
If you can't handle a down time of 1hr 30mins or whatever time it takes, go and make your own game OR get a job, study, read, take a shower, eat something, play something else....you'd be amazed how many games exist.
 
Yes we sub, yes we want quality but jesus christ give them a break!	
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			What is this, this isnt a hotfix, this is just a reason to say "dont worry guys we are doing our jobs" no you arent, please explain to me how a guild one week and 3 days after early access did a world first raid boss....because they exploited bugs (selling decor for elder coins), bugs this company is failing to fix.  We understand the game is susposed to be hard and most of us love that however, there is alot of stuff that you are just sitting there watching happen, spellslingers are jumping up the ladders because of how op they are, and not a single person here can argue otherwise, there is a bug where you can just teleport to your house and wipe the death count in an instance, this game is no longer a game of skill or a game of who can get up there fastest based on how good you are or the time you have to play.  Now its a game of who knows the lastest exploits to get us thru the content.  seriously WOW might have gone carebear but at least they fixed the bugs. (sorry for terrible grammar and spelling)	
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I didn't realise Add-ons were banning bots/investigating hacked accounts and restoring player access... ;)
 
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love how people freak out over everything lol. its a HOTFIX not a patch people...
you're doing a good job Wildstar, ignore these ban wagon hippies :)	
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What is this, this isnt a hotfix, this is just a reason to say "dont worry guys we are doing our jobs" no you arent, please explain to me how a guild one week and 3 days after early access did a world first raid boss....because they exploited bugs (selling decor for elder coins), bugs this company is failing to fix.  We understand the game is susposed to be hard and most of us love that however, there is alot of stuff that you are just sitting there watching happen, spellslingers are jumping up the ladders because of how op they are, and not a single person here can argue otherwise, there is a bug where you can just teleport to your house and wipe the death count in an instance, this game is no longer a game of skill or a game of who can get up there fastest based on how good you are or the time you have to play.  Now its a game of who knows the lastest exploits to get us thru the content.  seriously WOW might have gone carebear but at least they fixed the bugs. (sorry for terrible grammar and spelling)
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Another Patch with Fixes, that also happens to lower my Frames. At launch I was sitting over 60fps Ultra settings, last patch 40fps Ultra settings, most recent..... 20fps on LOW settings! Every F****ing time I contact support you tell me to lower Graphics. How about fix your wildly un-optimized game. I am running at 20fps on low on a top of the line laptop that I bought 2 weeks ago. I mean it's a great game, and I have to say I am very impressed with it overall. But for the love of God. The rate at which patches are going, I wont be able to play the game next patch.  :wacko: I thought maybe you just really hate optimizing for AMD, but I have a friend with a Desktop GTX 560 having very similar results from patches. 
 
anyone curious of specs 
i7 4810mq
16Gb 1600 RAM
4gb AMD R9 M290x
Installed on Samsung SSD
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			I actually wasn't too bothered with the "repair all" not working as it made me actually look at my gear. Saved a few coins.	
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Carbine,
 
I really love this game.  Your launch was nearly perfect, despite the acceptable glitch or two.   And your updates have been seemingly useful, especially to a lot of players that i've seen commenting.  This tells me you guys are actively reading the forums, and listening to user input.  Which I for one greatly appreciate.
 
One thing that I would really like the studio to start paying attention to the posts about how our "good" to "great" to "best" (for lack of better words) computers have been receiving shotty performance.  And that's not just AMD based.  There are many reports of computers with i7 processors, and Nvidia cards experienced low FPS.
 
Personally, when I started playing on my Asus G75VW about 3 weeks ago I was getting 40-60 FPS on medium settings, which I still thought was rather low.  I would have expected those frames on high settings. But then after my first out of three patches, it dropped to 20-35 FPS on medium settings...  Then the second out of three updates, dropped me down to 15-25 FPS.  And now since last nights. i'm at 10-20 FPS, on medium settings.
 
At the moment i'm running on an adjusted Low setting and receiving 25-35 FPS with the attached -dx9 tag on the executable.
 
As a, computer engineer, I understand these complex puzzles can take time to figure out.  So i'm not asking for an immediate solution by posting this.  I just humbly request that it is pursued, and fixed at some point (hopefully soon).  
 
Computer Specs
 
Asus ROG G75VW
OS: Windows Pro 8.1
CPU: i7-3610QM 2.3GHz
RAM: 16GB
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 670M 3GB dedicated memory
 
 
Thanks,
Myg0t	
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I really, really don't get this community. They're fixing issues/bugs, but if they don't fix the one bug that is currently effecting you, it's a terrible patch/hotfix. "Carbine, why haven't you fixed X already?"It's entirely possible that they're working on it right now, but a fix isn't ready. Fixing bugs in a game isn't always as easy as seeing a value was mis-set.Now, am I saying we should be quiet about bugs and issues? Hell no. They need to know what isn't working so they can fix it. But whining that a hotfix didn't fix [insert known problem here] doesn't solve anything.
 
And yes, I'm aware that I'm whining about people whining which is hypocritical, etc etc.	
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You were so fast with Repair All! 
Congratulations!
 
So in 2015 we will have Memory Leakage fixed, and propably around 2016 AMD driver support.
 
This game is still in BETA.	
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this hotfix has screwed things over for me and my pals !!
 
ERROR : messages definitions mismatch - connection closed to remote services !
 
i mean c'mon right after this hotfix !! i cant even login to the game anymore and its not just me i have 5 more other friends with the same issue !!!
 
we are from kuwait and things was so smooth before this so called hotfix .. which screwed this gaming experience , even worse no one response to the ticket we've placed nor reply to our threads or comments !!
 
your game is great , your ideas are just perfect , overall experience is great but Customer support / servers capability : zero to none am afraid to say
waiting for more than 9hours now and everytime this darn stupid message pop up !! dont tell me to VPN .. as soon as i use vpn things gets even worse full client download aka 17GB !!
 
am willing to wait for a couple days but if things aint fixed sad to say ... theres alot of MMOs not as same as you guys but least they have a strong customer services ..	
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Thank you for fixing the repair all button. :D   I do not care that it took 90 minutes for a small fix, the programmers are doing a great job.  I'd die of boredom if I had to go through millions of line of code to fix one small glitch.
 	
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			It would be so nice if they fixed the problems the game has with AMD cards. How many people have stopped playing the game because of the flickering lights it makes dungeons unplayable. Tried the new drivers no help can force the game into dx9 and the fps drop to half what they should be. This should be a big issue with major focus being put on it. If people load up your game their first time and have the issues many amd users are, many are just going to walk away from a great game.	
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There is a reason why  the saying Patience is a virtue is out there. Learn some.
 Sometimes one thing gets fixed and breaks another accidentally.  You will not die if you cannot play for 90 minutes or three days. Fill your time with other things.  Being patient and supportive will pay off in the end as Carbine fix what needs fixing and produces a flawless end product.  No game is perfect at release and people tend to forget even the great games like WOW had horrendous  problems for the first  three years in play. I remember three days when no one could play and our only solace was getting fully rested after the issues were fixed.   Getting  angry and flaming out at the devs isn't going to solve anything and you're attacking already overworked people who probably aren't getting paid as much as they should for their job and the hours they put in.  ( I am sure many players can relate to this)  Try putting yourself in their shoes for a minute before you get emotional instead of rational in a post. They don't need a kick in the ass, they need support in finding issues and bugs and reporting bots. They are working hard to make this game a success and get rid of  botters and fix issues that impede or annoy game play.  This is about money people. A game is created to make money. You better believe  they are doing everything they can so they can maintain and increase long term player base and reduce long term player losses. If this game goes under, a lot of  people lose their jobs and the millions of dollars  from investors looking for a sound fiscal return  on development , lost to the wind.   Support Carbine positively and if you have to complain do it in a factual and non malicious way. Manners  grease the wheels of society and has become a dying art as we enter the wests and europes version of the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.  Lets not hasten our own demise and if you have no idea what I'm talking about maybe you should do some research, it's fascinating stuff.
You have my full support Carbine even when I get angry and frustrated over bots or annoyed over bugs, because that is only human to feel this way and I know you're doing your best to make a successful long term game, enjoyable for years to come.	
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			Dev's are working to improve the game, and half the community QQ's about it. And people wonder why MMO's are dying. It's not that the Dev's are doing bad, but the people playing are too selfish.	
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A lot of people sure are being a**holes in here, complaining about downtime while Carbine provides bug fixes for the game.  Regardless of how small the fixes are, or how long the downtime is, it comes off really childish to complain like most of you are doing.  
 
I think Carbine has been making phenomenal progress on fixing their game, while maintaining transparency about their efforts throughout.  If you can't see the positive in their efforts, then you really ought to leave the Wildstar community, because we don't need players like you.  A lot of us appreciate the work Carbine has done since the Winter Beta, and seeing so many entitled-sounding whiners in here is really disheartening.  
 
Keep up the great work, Carbine. I really enjoy seeing all the work you put into your game to make it awesome.	
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Just because the Dev's did not post every single detail about the Hot Fix for the 90 minute down time does not mean there was not more they could not disclose. Why do people think they are owed something? At least the Dev's communicate, and they Hot Fix and patch. Give them a freaking break. It's obvious most if not all of the complainers do not work in this business and if you do than your roll in that environment is not as important as you think it is.
 
As a Systems Engineer myself I can appreciate the work the Dev's perform. Do you know they could actually wait to Hot Fix during regular business hours? Therefore keeping people from playing for hours? Or maybe take days or weeks to fix like some other MMO's did when they first came out ::cough:: WoW ::cough:: The point is a lot of the posters have this entitlement where the game is out and running and it should therefore be up 24x7.
 
The Dev's are not going to give every little detail to be put out for everyone else to read. You do know the Dev's are working on the Bot issues and the other issues, right? If the Dev's tell the public what they fixed then the bad guys will know how to circumvent. Move counter move, it's like chess, So cut the Dev's some slack and enjoy the game, it is truly awesome. And if you really, really want to help, then log into the PTR and go look for bugs, glitches and report them before the content is released, that goes a long way to help the Dev's. When there is some downtime you can also watch the reports and shows they post on Twitter, Facebook, Twitch etc. This will help explain what Carbine and the Dev's are up to and help entertain during the down time.
 
Stepping off the soap box,
 
 
Ryzek	
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That was...minimal.
Was really hoping for a way to report BOTs, they are ruining the game experience for me at the moment.
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			What I don't understand is how they expect someone to PAY for this game monthly when its being over ran by hackers. They are destroying the economy which makes it harder for me to make gold even if I wanted to pay with plat instead of real money. I paid 70 something dollars for this game, and I gotta say the gameplay I love, but how slowly you are putting a handle on this hacking situation is extremely disappointing. And for all the people that say "just open a ticket" I SHOULDN'T HAVE TOO. I paid good money for this game and plan on paying good money for this game in the future if they can fix this seemingly simple problem .... if not Ill be taking my money else where. If the hackers figured out how to do this so easily, I don't understand how you cant figure out how to stop it. 	
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@Ryzek
 
I think I am entitled to complete disclosure about what files are being placed on my PC. I don't need to know the details about security measures and the like, I do need to know that there has been a change.
 
I don´t know if it a legal thing but it most certainly is good business practice.
 
If I am paying for a product or a service then there will be very little "breaks" given for just doing your job. I am very appreciative of the effort CRB puts in but that doesn't excuse the game for it's numerous bugs/stability issues.	
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			Really? Seriously? You are not the only one that paid good money for this game. We all did. No offence but the entitlement needs to go. Nobody is twisting your arm to play this game. Carbine appreciates you and that you spent the money to play the game but seriously, it takes time to undo what the hackers, bot'ers are doing, it's like chess, move counter move. Carbine's Dev's make a fix then the bad guys find another way around it and the cycle repeats it's never ending. There is no way to really see this coming before the game is released. During Alpha and the Beta's people find bugs and exploits and report them. But sometimes things like this happen and the bad guys find a way. Carbine will fix it. It took Blizzard a long time get it resolved for them as well. So enjoy the game as best you can, otherwise you can always go play boring old WoW.	
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@Roshambow
 
I agree it's a good business practice, but seriously, CRB would not be in business long if they or any other software company fully disclosed what was installed onto your PC with the exception of any type of security change that affects or potentially effects anyone's privacy. We all are paying for a product. But you need to read the terms of the agreement (which almost nobody ever does). Things are going to break, that's a given and CRB is fixing them as they go along. It took Blizzard a long time to figure it out. At least CRB is on top of it.
 
I disagree when you say it doesn't excuse CRB or the game for it's numerous bugs/stability issues. Seriously? The game gas been out (retail) about a month. It took Blizzard years when WoW was in vanilla and Burning Crusade before they figured a lot of the bugs out. I don't expect Carbine to take anywhere near that long as the Dev's learn from others and technologies change to help fix and resolve the issues.
 
 
 
@Ryzek
 
I think I am entitled to complete disclosure about what files are being placed on my PC. I don't need to know the details about security measures and the like, I do need to know that there has been a change.
 
I don´t know if it a legal thing but it most certainly is good business practice.
 
If I am paying for a product or a service then there will be very little "breaks" given for just doing your job. I am very appreciative of the effort CRB puts in but that doesn't excuse the game for it's numerous bugs/stability issues.
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Correct, we all paid money for a product. We are all entitled to proper disclosure of what this product does on our pc's. 
 
You may not want or need accurate disclosure but your personal opinion does not usurp our rights as consumers.
 
 
What needs to go is people using the word "entitlement" as perojative when it really is just another word for rights.
 
I don't need a break down of how fixes happen. None of "how things work" will be able to remove human emotion or reactions from any situation. This isn't a WOW problem. This is how people are, period. You can not change human nature.	
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I understand that it takes a long time to fix code, to debug it, and to rewrite/repair what has to be done. What I don't understand, however, is the MASSIVE amounts of bugs in this game. I honestly feel like this game is still in Beta and we're all PAYING to help fix problems, bugs and glitches.
 
Carbine Devs, take note: This awful, AWFUL trend of video game developers (especially those making MMO's) releasing a game that they KNOW has bugs to the general public with the mentality of "Oh, we can release a hotfix or a patch for that in a week or two" has GOT TO STOP. If your product isn't ready, if you know of ONE game-altering bug, your game is NOT READY FOR A WIDE RELEASE AND YOU NEED MORE BETA TESTING.
 
Everything I have seen from WildStar since launch is a literal cascade of bugs, glitches, botting problems and a bevy of other technical issues that could have, should have and would have been fixed with a longer open beta period. I, for one, am SICK TO MY STOMACH of paying video game companies so that I can help them debug and test their game when it is supposed to be in a TOTALLY PLAYABLE form when it is launched. That is what we paid for - a game that works in which you don't have to worry about having all your progress halted because of one bugged quest or NPC or having resources stolen from you from bots and hackers.
 
Also, on a note not many have complained about: they clearly never tested fully their UI Scaling. When scaling down to a size that gives you some playable space in the middle screen, the fonts become next to unreadable, even on my 36" display. This is totally unnacceptable, as is the mentality of "Tons of moving parts, guys. It'll take time to sort it all out." It's not even like this is NCSoft's first MMO - and even, then, with the examples of decent MMO's out there, it still wouldn't be acceptable.
 
No fix for phasing/speed hacks? I'm sorry, but seriously, GTFO of here with that weak crap. Every decent MMO has had speed/teleport hack detection at launch - hell, private WoW servers have them! Yet, somehow, this is something that Carbine overlooked? I don't buy it for a second.
 
I feel like I ordered a pizza with pepperoni and it got delivered upside-down in the box with mushrooms and anchovies. Then, when I called to complain and request a new pizza be delivered - properly, this time - the manager told me it would arrive in about 2 weeks with no hope for a refund. /facepalm
 
EDIT: I would also like to add the fact that it is VERY irritating as a player when a game company releases a game that has TONS of bugs and issues in it and then, less than a month after release, is already starting the launch-up for the first major content patch. Whether it was in development for a long time or not, the resources being used for it SHOULD be used first to make sure you hold onto subscribers and people don't leave after the first month of unfixed bugs.	
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			good job, little patch but at least you are doing some :)	
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Seriously fix the BOT issue. I'm about to quit because I can't compete with them financially. Not to mention I can't find a single node anymore due to their speedhacking. :/
 	
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			Very nice, thank you. Coming from ESO, its refreshing to see constant fixes.	
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			Great to see these fixes. Am looking forward to more!	
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This was a Hot Fix, aka they fix a few things.
 
Hot Fix = A few fixes
Patch = Lots of fixes
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There's other internal solutions for those kind of bots, sadly I can't really talk about them as it could tip cheaters off. ;)
 
Reviewing player submitted videos as evidence would be a very... difficult method to catch these guys in my opinion.
 
1) A lot of people would misuse it. Inappropriate videos, pleas for Support help/ban appeals, trying to clog up our reports etc.
2) It's only really viable for those who recording for long periods of time, by the time you start a capture the botter will be gone.
 
That said, if people do video capture they can go back, grab the bot name and report it to us anyway. Much easier for everything on our end.
 
I'll mention it to Support and see if it's something that would help them, but I expect not.
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Nice rant, :rolleyes: Have to disagree with quite a few points.
 
You: "I don't understand the MASSIVE amounts of? can you elaborate to equal the amount of  bugs in this game.
 
Me: Seriously? What are massive amounts of bugs? I want to know, can you give more details and include links or proof of massive. Seriously... This game has a few and they are addressed. A hack or exploit is not a bug per se so those don't count. However the Dev's are working on it.
 
No game is 100% fool proof right out of the box. Not even console games. But you get a really good playable game that may have a few things broken and they get fixed. So freaking what... You don't like it, then don't play it. I am sick and tired of all the whiners, waaaay! My game is not working correctly, get over it we all paid for it. I would totally agree with you if the game was not playable at all or even at half, but this game is working and it works well. It does have a few minor issues. Even WoW had worse back in vanilla and Burning Crusade.
 
Since you don't work at Carbine YOU have no, none, zero idea or a clue as to what the Dev's are or are not working on. Can you look into your crystal ball and give us next weeks winning lottery numbers? (sarcasm)
Give me a bleeping heart bleeping break. It's pretty simple. This game rocks, yes it needs some more seasoning. It took Blizzard's WoW years to get where they are now. I seriously don't think it will take that long for Carbine to get this game beyond that level.
 
 
I understand that it takes a long time to fix code, to debug it, and to rewrite/repair what has to be done. What I don't understand, however, is the MASSIVE amounts of bugs in this game. I honestly feel like this game is still in Beta and we're all PAYING to help fix problems, bugs and glitches.
 
Carbine Devs, take note: This awful, AWFUL trend of video game developers (especially those making MMO's) releasing a game that they KNOW has bugs to the general public with the mentality of "Oh, we can release a hotfix or a patch for that in a week or two" has GOT TO STOP. If your product isn't ready, if you know of ONE game-altering bug, your game is NOT READY FOR A WIDE RELEASE AND YOU NEED MORE BETA TESTING.
 
Everything I have seen from WildStar since launch is a literal cascade of bugs, glitches, botting problems and a bevy of other technical issues that could have, should have and would have been fixed with a longer open beta period. I, for one, am SICK TO MY STOMACH of paying video game companies so that I can help them debug and test their game when it is supposed to be in a TOTALLY PLAYABLE form when it is launched. That is what we paid for - a game that works in which you don't have to worry about having all your progress halted because of one bugged quest or NPC or having resources stolen from you from bots and hackers.
 
Also, on a note not many have complained about: they clearly never tested fully their UI Scaling. When scaling down to a size that gives you some playable space in the middle screen, the fonts become next to unreadable, even on my 36" display. This is totally unnacceptable, as is the mentality of "Tons of moving parts, guys. It'll take time to sort it all out." It's not even like this is NCSoft's first MMO - and even, then, with the examples of decent MMO's out there, it still wouldn't be acceptable.
 
No fix for phasing/speed hacks? I'm sorry, but seriously, GTFO of here with that weak crap. Every decent MMO has had speed/teleport hack detection at launch - hell, private WoW servers have them! Yet, somehow, this is something that Carbine overlooked? I don't buy it for a second.
 
I feel like I ordered a pizza with pepperoni and it got delivered upside-down in the box with mushrooms and anchovies. Then, when I called to complain and request a new pizza be delivered - properly, this time - the manager told me it would arrive in about 2 weeks with no hope for a refund. /facepalm
 
EDIT: I would also like to add the fact that it is VERY irritating as a player when a game company releases a game that has TONS of bugs and issues in it and then, less than a month after release, is already starting the launch-up for the first major content patch. Whether it was in development for a long time or not, the resources being used for it SHOULD be used first to make sure you hold onto subscribers and people don't leave after the first month of unfixed bugs.
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			Thank you for working hard on this game for us, I know I and my friends appreciate it. I hope you hear more often how impressive your work is. I'm grateful for what you have done please dont stop	
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			I worked for Blizzard for many years, the bots and gold sales were a difficult issue. The bots can be taken care of but Wildstar has to be willing to dedicate man hours to it. WOW towards the end they had all but given up, plus there are actually legal issue that they have to worry about. But it can and should be done as it absolutely frustrates the client base	
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			I'd love to see fixes for the following issues:- Bluescreen / Memory Access Violation when changing to house / other maps- Low performance on high end systems with powerful CPUs and GPUs- Botting / Hacking	
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			Thank you! That repair all issue was bothering the hell out of me.	
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That was...minimal.
Was really hoping for a way to report BOTs, they are ruining the game experience for me at the moment.
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			Man what is wrong with this community. Fixes = good.	
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Sorry just figured to see......... more? Crafting items not able to be crafted, the architect cybene npc in malgrave not being there preventing architects from completing daily quest, retarded drop rate for SS amps (TF and PS), fixes for KV (2nd boss as mentioned above), BOT reporting (especially the farming teleport bots), just to name a few.
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EDIT: I would also like to add the fact that it is VERY irritating as a player when a game company releases a game that has TONS of bugs and issues in it and then, less than a month after release, is already starting the launch-up for the first major content patch. Whether it was in development for a long time or not, the resources being used for it SHOULD be used first to make sure you hold onto subscribers and people don't leave after the first month of unfixed bugs.
 
 
clearly someone missed the whole fact that Strain Ultra Drop is coming with more than 1000 fixes	
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This post may pique your interest.
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I really, really don't get this community. They're fixing issues/bugs, but if they don't fix the one bug that is currently effecting you, it's a terrible patch/hotfix. 
 
"Carbine, why haven't you fixed X already?"
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The Dev's are not going to give every little detail to be put out for everyone else to read. You do know the Dev's are working on the Bot issues and the other issues, right? 
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			There really is always something to complain about for gamers, isn't there?  Thanks for the patch, guys.  I figure someone should come in here and thank you for your hard work :)	
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			Undocumented changes to log in screen?	
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Now it wont let me log in, says yal dropped a pod
 	
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A bit late to the party, but ... yes, that post is of interest. It is also vague / incomplete, though. Earlier today I created a new thread to request clarification, since that thread is locked:
 
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/85871-client-memory-leak-top-known-issues-open-thread/
 
As an aside, do you happen to know when the free month expires for pre-order accounts? I would like to see if the Strain content drop fixes resolve my crashing issues, but I am thinking the patch will drop after my free gametime expires. While I appreciate the monumental task in front of you all with respect to fixing the various bugs in the game, general resposiveness to the memory-related stability issues has been spotty and I don't see a reason to be optimistic the mentioned fixes will actually resolve the issues I am experiecing. In other words, if my free gametime expires before the Strain content drop, justification for subbing is fairly thin (without more information, basically the simple hope that the fix in question resolves all the issues I am experiecing).
 
Has there been any internal discussion of extending the free gametime for players that have been fighting with the stability issues? I'm not even sure how you would differentiate between those that have and have not been dealing with the issues, but it doesn't seem like an unreasonable request on behalf of those that have been.
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			You guys are crazy, they have such small downtimes compared to most. Be grateful and support this game if you want it to be good. if you are upset, it's because you enjoy the game.	
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For some bizare reasons, this hotfix seems to have made the game much, much more stable on my computer. i used to have a blue screen of death every 30min or so but i haven't crashed at all today :wub:
 
anyone else with that experience?
 
my specs
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1
 
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670
Processor: Intel® Core i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.9GHz
Available OS Memory: 8154MB RAM	
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For some bizare reasons, this hotfix seems to have made the game much, much more stable on my computer. i used to have a blue screen of death every 30min or so but i haven't crashed at all today :wub:
 
anyone else with that experience?
 
my specs
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1
 
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670
Processor: Intel® Core i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.9GHz
Available OS Memory: 8154MB RAM
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			Wooooah!  Big updates...keep 'em coming!	
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You'd have to double check your account page to verify, but the free month sub should be until July 3. However, the sub charge date is on the 30th of June (at least that's what mine reads). So, don't just check when the sub date expires (account profile page), you also need to check "Transaction History" -> "Subscription" page to actually see when you'll be charged for the next month of play time. It got offset by a few days when they migrated from NCSoft (charge date was initially on the 28th after the migration, seems to have been pushed back by a few days since then). 
 
TLDR: Sub end date and sub payment dates are NOT the same, Check Account Profile page for end date; from Account Profile page choose "Transaction History" -> "Subscription" page to see when your sub payment date is.
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There are always thing's they fix/change that are not reported on the patch notes even so this does seem particularly small, however every fix is another off the list and the game is improving with regards to bugs.
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I can't help but to "lol" at the amount of people crying on these forums. 
 
Anyways! Thank you for the hotfix! <3	
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