Report 250

Report #250
Skillset: Stealth Skill: Rooftops
 Org: Nekotai Status: Rejected Aug 2009
Furies' Decision:
We don't find this to be necessary.
Problem: Rooftops is a skill only allows a stealth user to climb up on to roofs
and noose people onto the roof at a significant balance cost, making it only
useful in situations like village revolts, and then with at least one other
person.
Solution #1: Make it possible to noose up into the trees, but not to shove out
 of trees. This will give stealth users more use of this skill in
 general.
Player Comments:
---[Ceren on 8/22 @ 04:55 writes]:
I don't actually know what noose does. Sieze clone?
---[Zalandrus on 8/22 @ 16:49 writes]:
Echoing Ceren's question. But the thing about rooftops vs. trees is that a lot
more can be done in trees. If this change goes through, soudns like Druids could
team up with Nekotai to make for some interesting and powerful combinations,
whereas you can't really do that with rooftops (to my knowledge).
---[Sidd on 8/23 @ 00:41 writes]:
Noose pulls a victim onto the roof, the balance cost for the stealth user is
longer than that of the victim, it's just a skill in stealth that doesn't have
very much use except in village revolts situations. using noose in combination
with other guilds etc is essential as the victim can easily run off before the
stealth user gains balance back. As it will definitely synergize with druids, it
also synergizes with other classes, and the only difference between noosing into
trees or rooftops will be that you can in trees. This is simply to try to make
the skill more useful in other situations, but leaving out shove will do well to
balance it I think as you can follow into the trees without the stealth user
being able to retaliate
---[Ceren on 8/23 @ 10:50 writes]:
Okay, cool.
---[Xenthos on 8/25 @ 04:31 writes]:
Well, it has situation in terms of raiding / defending a Prime city (Ninjakari
have used it in Celest), but it's pretty much that and villages only.
---[Yukio on 8/26 @ 21:15 writes]:
I agree that the skill could use this change, but I also agree with Zalandrus
when he says that it will be used in combination with druidry to cause havoc.
Though I expect future headache from this, I'm all up for seeing how it goes.
---[Yukio on 8/26 @ 21:18 writes]:
And thinking again, I don't see how this benefits Ninjakari at all if there is
an enemy druid present. Perhaps a change is needed which benefits both guilds.
---[Sidd on 8/27 @ 17:55 writes]:
It really wouldn't much different than seize that totems have with monkey, just
making this skill more useful in general.
---[Nienla on 8/28 @ 16:15 writes]:
I'm pretty sure that Monkey Seize only works in Treetops, not Rooftops.
---[Sidd on 8/28 @ 17:57 writes]:
That is true, but it doesn't change the fact that noosing in trees would allow
this skill to be more useful in general instead of really just during village
revolts, I'm just saying that as far as synergy with druids, it's similar to
monkey seize