105370-for-those-that-are-no-longer-going-to-play

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			If you feel the desire to type a fair well letter on the forums, please don't, just go away. We don't need to hear your "unique" take on why the game is failing. I and many people I know love the game so your opinion is just that, an opinion. Good bye and good luck	
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I and many people I know love the game so your opinion is just that, an opinion.
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			If you feel the desire to type a fair well letter on the forums, please do, don't go away. We need to hear your unique take on why the game is failing. I and many people I know have issues with the game so your opinion is welcome discourse. Good bye and good luck.	
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While it may be cumbersome to keep seeing the same threads popping up, it's actually useful for Carbine to know why people are quitting. Might end up doing some good in the end.
 
Oh yeah, and people who actually take the time to write down their opinion shouldn't just be shot down, since they obviously care enough to log in here and post their reasons. Those might actually come back, if whatever is bothering them gets fixed. The ones that just leave without a word, those might be harder to draw in ever again.	
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While it may be cumbersome to keep seeing the same threads popping up, it's actually useful for Carbine to know why people are quitting. Might end up doing some good in the end.
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If you feel the desire to type a fair well letter on the forums, please don't, just go away. We don't need to hear your "unique" take on why the game is failing. I and many people I know love the game so your opinion is just that, an opinion. Good bye and good luck
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			If they wanted to know why you whipped dogs where slinking away with your tails between their legs they would have put up an exit survey.  However please feel free to mail me all your stuff before you go running away.	
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			what do you expect,  carbine doesn't even  have an exit interview so people can express where wildstar fails  them.	
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If they wanted to know why you whipped dogs where slinking away with your tails between their legs they would have put up an exit survey.  However please feel free to mail me all your stuff before you go running away.
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No.  Unless that quest has cause you quit in a hissyfit of childish rage.
 
Edit:  Also the Attunement quest is not on the table.  Step up or go away.	
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			I just disagree I guess, I see it more as an attempt to make the community even more toxic and 30 posts a day with the same laundry list of "issues" is not helping Carbine one bit. these people could find one of the existing threads and contribute their opinion there but feedback isn't the intent of most of these posts.	
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			People are just as free to express their opinions as the OP. The OP does not have the divine right to have only his opinion heard. If you would like to prevent other people from voicing their opinions just because you don't like them, then go move to Russia or Iran.	
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People are just as free to express their opinions as the OP. The OP does not have the divine right to have only his opinion heard. If you would like to prevent other people from voicing their opinions just because you don't like them, then go move to Russia or Iran.
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			This is once again Carbine's fault. This is the only means of Feedback for those leaving the game.	
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No.  Unless that quest has cause you quit in a hissyfit of childish rage.
 
Edit:  Also the Attunement quest is not on the table.  Step up or go away.
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I just disagree I guess, I see it more as an attempt to make the community even more toxic and 30 posts a day with the same laundry list of "issues" is not helping Carbine one bit. these people could find one of the existing threads and contribute their opinion there but feedback isn't the intent of most of these posts.
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Well, I imagine it's not awfully hard to consolidate all the "I quit" posts into one thread, have it moderator locked, so there is no flaming going on, and keep adding every new post to the pile. Even if there were surveys and other means to leave feedback (you could always spam their twitter I suppose), people would still leave forum posts.
 
Consolidate them, lock them, but let people say what they want to say.	
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It's helping carbine a hell of a lot more than anyone blindly defending anything and everything about the game.
Knowing why people are leaving in droves gives them an opportunity to fix issues to prevent further loss and maybe get people to come back.
If people are leaving en masse but silently the devs have no clue what needs to happen to prevent it
 
The sad thing is a lot of the people that think they're defending the game and attacking those with concerns with stuff along the lines of "don't like it then quit" are literally damaging the game they claim to love so much
and the forum moderators are pretty much the heights of idiocy hiding negative threads in subforums or closing leaving threads within 5 to 10 minutes which just pisses people off and heightens tension instead of letting it work itself out
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If you feel the desire to type a fair well letter on the forums, please don't, just go away. We don't need to hear your "unique" take on why the game is failing. I and many people I know love the game so your opinion is just that, an opinion. Good bye and good luck
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and the forum moderators are pretty much the heights of idiocy hiding negative threads in subforums or closing leaving threads within 5 to 10 minutes which just pisses people off and heightens tension instead of letting it work itself out
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I would rather see posts detailing reasons why people quit rather than the 10000th's "OMG CARBINE YOURE AWESOME AND NOTHING YOU CAN DO IS WRONG!" posts that we get instead.
 
One type of thread is going to help Carbine's future, the other type is going to hinder it.  See if you can figure out which is which.	
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If you feel the desire to type a fair well letter on the forums, please don't, just go away. We don't need to hear your "unique" take on why the game is failing. I and many people I know love the game so your opinion is just that, an opinion. Good bye and good luck
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No.
Moderation has been 95% great.
9/10 threads that get locked are duplicate topics and/or pointless rage-filled ramblings (whose arguments, if they contain any, have been stated in a better way elsewhere).
 
As for moving: If people are too lazy/blind to look at subforums that's on them.
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			On the whole exit survey thing they might being waiting for awhile before sending them out. Cause I didn`t get one from Elder Scrolls Online until about a month or two after I quit playing. In WoW I don`t think I ever got one from them but I was using timecards so they more than likely felt that my reasons weren`t valid.	
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On the whole exit survey thing they might being waiting for awhile before sending them out. Cause I didn`t get one from Elder Scrolls Online until about a month or two after I quit playing. In WoW I don`t think I ever got one from them but I was using timecards so they more than likely felt that my reasons weren`t valid.
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			this thread is even more pointless then an i quit thread	
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			lol, ok people hang around and troll the boards of game you quit if that's your thing. to each their own	
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lol, ok people hang around and troll the boards of game you quit if that's your thing. to each their own
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lol, ok people hang around and troll the boards of game you quit if that's your thing. to each their own
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			Daralii, then you make a constructive post in the appropriate form, like dungeon or specific class. Creating one more of the many posts saying the same thing in general isn't helping anyone	
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While it may be cumbersome to keep seeing the same threads popping up, it's actually useful for Carbine to know why people are quitting. Might end up doing some good in the end.
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			anyhow I'm done here. leave another I quit post saying the same as all those before you and see if it amounts to anything at all. Or if your intent is actually to better the game as so many of you claim then leave a constructive post in the appropriate place and your voice is much more likely to be heard. class get nerfed? leave a post in your class forums. Attunement got you down? cant get those silvers? leave a post in dungeon forums. Want to create a stir and dump your toxic attitude on the community on your way out? then leave one of the many posts that look just like yours in general.	
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If you feel the desire to type a fair well letter on the forums, please don't, just go away. We don't need to hear your "unique" take on why the game is failing. I and many people I know love the game so your opinion is just that, an opinion. Good bye and good luck
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If they wanted to know, and had plans to use the information to make changes, they'd make an exit survey. That way at least they'd get it in a usable form with some valid data, and not just anecdotal 'evidence' from a smattering of disorganized goodbye posts.
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So you're saying carbine doesn't care about its players.
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Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth, but no. People who leave after a month or two aren't players, they're ex players. They care more about the people paying, than the people who choose not to pay. It's a question of priorities, and between keeping the people who are mostly happy, and working on all the things they wished they could have added but didn't have time, their plate's probably pretty full.
 
Once they get more of that done, then they can worry about getting back some people they lost. 
 
While the people leaving have been pretty noisy in this game, I don't think the actual churn rate is high enough to warrant making serious retention efforts this early.
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For every person who rants and raves about quitting out of anger, just as many people post an exit message because they care about the game and want it to improve. The fact that they aren't going to play anymore isn't the same as not wanting it to keep going and improving.   If they're telling Carbine and the community why they're quitting, it may be because they want people to be aware of the issues they felt were effecting the game negatively.  Those messages should NOT be dismissed, even if you disagree with them.   It all comes back to:  "It's ok to like things that people don't like."   
 
However, it's not ok to bash people for liking what you don't like.  
 	
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lol, ok people hang around and troll the boards of game you quit if that's your thing. to each their own
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This is the attitude of someone who has never studied business or any kind of customer retention. Once your players become your ex-players, you as a company don't know WHY unless you ask them or gather data from them. If you don't care about your players leaving, your company is going to lose quite a lot of them.
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If they wanted to know why you whipped dogs where slinking away with your tails between their legs they would have put up an exit survey.  However please feel free to mail me all your stuff before you go running away.
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Thanks again for putting more words in my mouth, at the same time you try to make guesses about who I am and what I know.
 
Caring more about people who are still here and things that are still on their To-Do list is not the same as 'not caring' about the people who leave. They don't need to collect data, they don't need to learn what's driving people away, because they already know. Between months of beta and now months of Live, they have all that feedback. There hasn't been a single point made in a departure thread that wasn't made and collected months ago.
They also have their gameplan for the next X months, and know how those plans will possibly address the above concerns. Until they complete most of that plan, they don't need to see more data. And as I said before, when they need the data, they'll collect it.
 
Until then, departure threads and exit surveys don't serve much purpose.
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The ONLY reason to stop caring about customer retention is if you know damn well you are just gonna milk it for what its worth and then shut it off.
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			Paying customers disappearing without even a hint of a reason why.  Yeah, that's good business right there.	
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Hi folks,
 
I know it can be discouraging to read negative posts, but honestly constructive criticism is not something we want to discourage here. We don't want to encourage people to not post their opinions. Instead we want to try to lead by example. Since this post is commenting on other forum members rather than about the game which tends to elicit an overly negative reaction, I am going to go ahead and lock this. 
 
- Team WildStar 	
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