126216-we-i-need-official-statement-about-future-of-the-game

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Okay, Carbine, I know you are aware of the situation but even so I think it's important to have you know my feelings about the situation:
We all know that there is rumour about WS going f2p or b2p (thank's to the steamdb) and now I'm not sure if I should play WS, I don't know if I should prolong my subscription. I don't know anything... and that's why I don't do anything and you are losing money thanks to that. If I would know for certain what will be your next step I would be able to decide what to do next about the game.
The same goes about this - http://global.ncsoft.com/global/ir/earnings.aspx - we know that WS earning have drastically droped... and we really need some clarification - is game going to run, is it going to change the buisness model. If there won't be change I would assume that the game is going to close and that means I should stop playing and again... the silence doesn't help you unless you actually wants to close the game. So please! Developers or Ncsoft staff (I don't know who should make post about it) say something! Tell us what is the future of the game! Thank you!	
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			I don't want to resub, too. The changes are certainly coming but what should we expect? This uncertainty is quite frustrating. I think they should stop playing with their customers. We didn't even know the exact date of Drop 5 until the last moment when we had that "realm message". Such model of behavior (always keeping silence) is completely different from that they began from - transparency.	
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TBH, I think the only they they could say right now would be "we have every intention of continuing with the current business model," if, indeed that's the case. I can't imagine why they wouldn't make some statement to that effect, though, given how gaming blogs and forums have literally exploded with rumors about WildStar recently. You'd think anything to quash misinformation about "WildStar's imminent business model change" would be beneficial for Carbine and the game.
 
But - if they are planning on changing their business model, and they don't have everything sorted out, it probably wouldn't be a good idea to say anything until they have all the answers to the questions people will have - like what they did regarding megaservers.	
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The fact that they're not vehemently denying the f2p rumours, even though most gaming media is reporting them, is a clear sign that the rumours are true. If they weren't true Carbine would be really dumb if they let those false rumours fester, making people wait for the f2p switch instead of subscribing now.
 
Even if those reddit leaks are fake, it seems he was really close to the mark (which isn't all that surprising, but still).	
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You are being a bit over dramatic are you not OP?
 
 
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The fact that they're not vehemently denying the f2p rumours, even though most gaming media is reporting them, is a clear sign that the rumours are true. If they weren't true Carbine would be really dumb if they let those false rumours fester, making people wait for the f2p switch instead of subscribing now.Even if those reddit leaks are fake, it seems he was really close to the mark (which isn't all that surprising, but still).
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They have not "denied" this rumours since launch, why start now?
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You are being a bit over dramatic are you not OP?
 
They have not "denied" this rumours since launch, why start now?
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If the rumours aren't true then Carbine is hurting themselves way too much by not denying the rumours and scaring everyone off. This us just basic pr and marketing 101.
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I'm not so sure about this part. The game hasn't received this much buzz since launch. It's free advertising, which NCSoft/Carbine hasn't seemed too keen spending money on.
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Then they would get even more attention if they'd reply to the rumours. Two articles on each site instead of one!
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			I don't think we need one at all. Just play the game or don't play the game. If it's fun... that's the only info you need. We're not talking about large sums of money here.... I mean, god forbid you pay for something you enjoy so the developers can earn a living. No, you're right, it's better to keep that 50 cents a day in your pocket!	
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			I'm having fun and where it would be neat to know what WildStar's plans are in the end I will still play. 	
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			I still want to know what the little something is that they said we'd get after the downtime. WHAT IS THE LITTLE SOMETHING???	
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If they keep their silence until lets say one or two months before they will change it, if they are gonna change it, then Wildstars will stay on those site, while they feed the People with every bit of information they get on the possible f2p update.  
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 So we haven't heard anything yet. So what? Maybe they CAN'T say anything yet. What would you have them say? Anything that comes out of their mouths at this point will STILL be looked at with scrutiny and speculation. "We can neither confirm nor deny" <Bam instant guilt> "A shift will happen, but not anytime soon" <Bam! people stop subbing until it does > "We are not changing business models" < 6 months later, something happens and they do. OMGZ YOU LYING THIEVES >
 
Not for nothing, but if you still enjoy the game, why not continue to support it still despite all these rumors? Show Carbine that we're not afraid or worried about whatever decision NCSoft ultimately makes.	
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One thing for certain- the game ISN'T closing. They wouldn't be putting it up on steam if that was the case.
 
The model may be changing.
 
Play it- it's fun and worth it.	
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			NCSoft have already technically stated that they see a future in Wildstar and as far as they are concerned they will keep supporting Carbine, also the fact that they put Mondo Zax as a playable character in their new upcoming moba is kind of a sign that they dont have any plans of shutting it down for a looong time... but still I have a really bad feeling considering my experiences with them.	
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When was the last big announcement January 15th. It is about time for them to check in with us and tell us how they have done so far with their plan for 2015. Still no events in the game, and no mention of another raid yet. I feel bad for the people that have been crushing datascape because at this point they have nothing to do but starting putting alts through GA and datascape again. Some probably have already done that. 
 
I'd love to see even a simple event like a SWTOR double EXP weekend. Just make the buff on the buff board a 100% increase across all three things and leave it up from Friday to Monday. Send out emails to let people know and I bet you pick up a few subscribers that month as well because people will want to come back while the leveling zones are not dead. Then scrap attunement so we can get them raiding and seeing the best content this game has to offer. 	
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Carbine! Ncsoft! 
 
We need transparency from you!
 
Every player is a part of your salary... you have to show players that you really respect us. The game is great but if we don't know if it will be here for next year, etc. we won't subscribe nor buy new copies (that's about new players).
Yep, people that wrote about free adv are right but you CAN'T drag it for much longer, players in general are inpatient and they have other things to do, belive me, noone is going to waste their time on the game if developers won't be transparent.
I will play until my subscription time... but later on I will wait and you will lose money. Your marketing team should know better what is good and what is bad so I'm sure you will post something soon but for now I can only write posts like this.	
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The fact that they're not vehemently denying the f2p rumours, even though most gaming media is reporting them, is a clear sign that the rumours are true. If they weren't true Carbine would be really dumb if they let those false rumours fester, making people wait for the f2p switch instead of subscribing now.
 
Even if those reddit leaks are fake, it seems he was really close to the mark (which isn't all that surprising, but still).
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			Izzi you are wrong - it's the first time that everything is just screaming "it will close or go f2p", just read whole topic. And also - WS have one fo the best community out there, we are really forgiving and we are really nice. Check blizzard forum, check riot forum - most of the topics and posts are from people demanding something, saying that respective developer is *** etc. And here we have really nice community and really helpful. I don't think that there is any nicer community than this one.	
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You can go out that F2P is coming or at least B2P, looking at the current financial situation of the company and the earnings report.
 
They'll report on it officially once they actually got more details on it to come forward and probably launching with a deal to sell a good chunk of the boxes left. 	
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NCSoft earnings are not a lot to go on.  All we know for sure is that WS is generating revenue which is universally a good thing.
 
Everyone can agree this game is a labor of love.  People who create something of this scope and make the sacrifices required to make it happen aren't interesting in making knee jerk reactions to media/gamer hype about something as significant as their business model.   Changes may happen one day - but only after a lot of thought and an absolute unshakeable belief that it will be for the better.
 
Steam is a new sales distribution channel with a large customer base - that's about all we know.   
 
WildStar player base is picking up former WoW and SWTOR players that are looking for a change. I am one of them.  Subbed mid April.   I brought 3 other friends with me.  They all subbed. 
 
Posts like this though - almost made me NOT sub.  That would have been a mistake --  but there are more posts like this out there now then back in April.   I guess I am writing this for people like me so that they give this game the chance it deserves and not be scared off by unknowns.   Also - this is one of the best game communities I have experienced.  
 
Last comment - Carbine / NC soft need to be razor sharp, lightning fast, and communicate it's intentions clearly to it's customers.   Expectations +/- Experience = Customer Satisfaction & Happiness.	
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Responding to a few different points made thus far:
 
1) Yes, if this rumor were NOT true, they definitely would have said so by now. Why? Because every day this rumor is allowed to grow, more people will say "If this game is going F2P I'll just cancel my sub and wait until I can play for free". So every day they do not deny the rumor, they are losing subs. Therefore, the fact that they have not denied the rumor at the expense of losing subs essentially guarantees it is true. 
 
2) To the people saying "if they deny this they have to deny every rumor", or "people have been saying this since launch", that logic is flawed. There is an astronomical difference between normal rumors on this message board, and the huge media coverage this specific incident has gotten. Virtually every major game news site is reporting this, which is only adding to the issue described above in point #1.
 
All of that said, I completely understand that some people don't *want* this to be true. That's fine. I also completely understand that some people won't believe this until it is officially announced. That is also fine. I've played several games that have gone F2P, and this is all par for the course.	
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They management and business people that would be involved with this certainly don't work the weekend, so don't hold your breath.
 
The fact that the other ginormous thread wasn't locked or deleted does seem to be a sign though (at least to me).	
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All we know for sure is that WS is generating revenue which is universally a good thing.
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Personally I love this game and am glad it has a niche following. I will support it with a sub even if it goes F2P or B2P and has an option to sub. New players won't bother me if its B2P, however F2P trolls should be avoided so I will never visit a low level zone again or level an alt. 
 
I think this is the best MMO I ever played and I have played the rest because of simple things like the ability to change your toon at a shop in town for a non-outrageous price if your board with her look, Costumes are like transmogs that you don't have to go to a shop for and you get like 6 of the and they are totally cute, housing is amazingly fun and innovative, Hoverboards are very fun! and so much more.
 
I want to know as well about the future because I hate that a loyal player base has to be kept in the dark for business reasons and that decisions only get revealed to the masses leaving us feeling sad. I know that if we were told first it would leak and be all over the net, but we should get told first. 
 
Thank you for letting me speak.
 
Stormydove.	
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Personally I love this game and am glad it has a niche following. I will support it with a sub even if it goes F2P or B2P and has an option to sub. New players won't bother me if its B2P, however F2P trolls should be avoided so I will never visit a low level zone again or level an alt. 
 
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			As a Lopp would say, "Talkie time!! GO!!"	
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Hi all, 
 
Please use the previously started thread about f2p/b2p already in progress. This helps keep discussions all together and avoids spreading things out over various threads. https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/126076-wildstar-is-going-to-a-hybrid-free-to-play-model-in-august-what-are-your-thoughts/	
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