118255-wasnt-dye-supposed-to-be-cheaper-now

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Chua remember used to be several plat for Crimson Red.
So if now is only 20g instead of 3 plat, then Chua must say Carbine delivered cheaper Dye's.	
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I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere in patch notes or something that dyes were supposed to be cheaper in Drop 3. In fact, I was so sure of it that I waited to Drop 3 before starting my dyeing for real. Well, I tried to dye my jacket now, and... wow.
 
 
As you can see, I tried to dye the jacket only (1) with a red dye I got from a boombox (2). The total price? For just the jacket? Nearly 20 gold (3). To dye my jacket. Holy cupcake, Batman... 20 gold? To dye my jacket? Not happening. I was very reluctant to spend 5 gold to dye the jacket before with the same dye, and now it's nearly four times as expensive? I'm not spending that much money on dye. Not ever. Please tell me this is just a bug?
 
Btw, in comparison, I have the full Soldier path uniform, and pre-Drop 3, it cost around 5 or 6 six gold to dye the entire thing. That's at least a third of what the jacket cost now with the same dye.	
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Were you doing all 3 color slots on your old jacket too?
 
This doesn't look like a bug, but dye prices are scaled for level 50 characters as a gold sink (though they were just ridiculous in some cases before).  It's not really cost effective to use dyes on low level characters, especially the rare dyes.  The vendor dyes aren't too bad, but colors are limited.	
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Dye IS much cheaper. Olivar is correct, that operation would have been well over a platinum before the patch.
 
The price of dying is based on both the dye (they were pretty spot on in making appealing colors more expensive even in the same rarity bracket) and the cost of the item. Rarer/better level 5o gear costs more to dye than less expensive gear of the same level and color.	
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			20 gold is 10-15 minutes of farming Mineral Nodes. People need to get some perspective on prices. If you want to make money, seek it out.	
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Were you doing all 3 color slots on your old jacket too?
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Dye prices are absurdly high proportionate to lowbie income. However, I have to agree with Abn that once you get to 50 and figure out the various ways of making money, the prices aren't as bad.
 
That said, I would not be opposed to dye prices scaling with character level, the same way most other things do. That'd keep the lvl 50 gold sink the same, but make it more accessible for 1-49. And, honestly, that would likely make it a more effective gold sink for 1-49 than it is now, simply because lowbies would actually be able to afford the dyes they want.	
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			Dyes aren't cheaper the Beta outfit highlway w/e used to cost a few silver to dye was one of the reasons I and i'm sure others used it now its gold. Before not 100% sure but it seemed like the rarity of the dye plus the rarity of the item decided how much it would cost now I have no idea what's going on but point is its not cheapier to dye items now. Making gold to use isn't the point	
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			It's possible that they normalized dye prices across all dyes. 	
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			Dyes are lots cheaper now. Morgana, you so silly :P	
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OP
 
 
stop crying, its much better than a plat or 5.
 
go play the game and get 9 gold in about 20 minutes.	
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I feel very fortunate that platinum grey is my favorite dye.
 
Gives my armor that awesome stainless steel look and it's super cheap. :D	
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			Dye prices really frustrate me. There are plenty of gold sinks in this game. Dyeing one's gear does not have to be one of them.	
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Dye prices really frustrate me. There are plenty of gold sinks in this game. Dyeing one's gear does not have to be one of them.
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			is way cheaper, pre drop 3 dying my 1800 stalker boots with that very same dye you are using in the screenshot cost me 77g, the boots alone, now it only cost 13g	
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			Understand that players who don't farm their own mats, make their own gear, play the AH/CX markets or disregard costumes and housing might need relief.  You're pulling money out of the economy and not spending it.  You're an outlier.  As a result, the game's gold sinks should not be tuned to your playstyle.	
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It is far cheaper than it was and to me feels like it's in a decent place. I'm not spending several platinum for certain combinations anymore I was using prior to drop 3.
 
Also I'm very glad that the dye removal is free.	
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I forgot to check after the drop, but if Supernova White is still up around 61 plat for a full suit, that would not be cool.  19g is nothing.
 
I'm not into dying AT ALL, so when I got a Supernova White dye, I was very excited to sell,  until I saw the word "Soulbound"....	
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There has to be something to spend your money on. 
I craft all my own tradeskill items.
I farm all the mats for said items (buy a few here and there when I'm impatient)
I play the economy.
Have 3 LAS on my main, so I don't need to buy respecs.
Don't care for costumes as much as some.
Built my perfect house ages ago.
No good gear comes from the AH for me.
All in all that leaves my plat in the triple digits with relatively little to spend it on. There has to be gold sinks to keep the game balanced. People only feel it more when they care for something in particular. If you like to dye your gear like mad, the gold sinks feel like a lot, but in reality they are trivial. 
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Well ain't that good for you! :P You're a rare outlier, though, I hope you realize. Very, very few people are maxed out on all those things you have. Standard features (like dyeing) should not be built around providing rare outliers enough of a goldsink. >_> I've got a few plat. and I spend so much of my money on housing that I hardly have any room to enjoy my great love of customizing my outfits.
 
Saying that the goldsinks are trivial and then saying that the people who actually want to use it are not going to think it's trivial are... two rather contradicting ideas.
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As I keep saying, I'm trying to dye the exact same jacket with the exact same dye at the exact same character level, yet the price is now nearly four times as much as it used to be. Don't give me that "it's cheper now"-stuff. It's not. I even posted the picture as proof.
 
Furthermore, I don't care if I can grind up 20 gold in fifteen minutes at lvl 50. I just want to dye my clothes with a dye I already own. It shouldn't cost anything (I already own the dye), and making it cost 20 gold just to dye the jacket is absurd. How much will it cost to dye the whole set? What if I want to change the dye later? Dye-prices in this game is ridiculous at times. True, some of the dyes are cheap enough, but some dyes are mindblowingly expensive - even if, as I said, I already own the dye. Why do I have to pay for it again every time I want to use it? Dye it blue? Pay for it. Dye it red? Pay for it again. Dye it blue again? Pay a third time. Ridiculous.
 
And look at Guild Wars 2, for instance. Once you own a dye, you own it for life, and can use it as much as you want for free. Why can't we do that here? It doesn't make any sense.
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As I keep saying, I'm trying to dye the exact same jacket with the exact same dye at the exact same character level, yet the price is now nearly four times as much as it used to be. Don't give me that "it's cheper now"-stuff. It's not. I even posted the picture as proof.
 
Furthermore, I don't care if I can grind up 20 gold in fifteen minutes at lvl 50. I just want to dye my clothes with a dye I already own. It shouldn't cost anything (I already own the dye), and making it cost 20 gold just to dye the jacket is absurd. How much will it cost to dye the whole set? What if I want to change the dye later? Dye-prices in this game is ridiculous at times. True, some of the dyes are cheap enough, but some dyes are mindblowingly expensive - even if, as I said, I already own the dye. Why do I have to pay for it again every time I want to use it? Dye it blue? Pay for it. Dye it red? Pay for it again. Dye it blue again? Pay a third time. Ridiculous.
 
And look at Guild Wars 2, for instance. Once you own a dye, you own it for life, and can use it as much as you want for free. Why can't we do that here? It doesn't make any sense.	
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As I keep saying, I'm trying to dye the exact same jacket with the exact same dye at the exact same character level, yet the price is now nearly four times as much as it used to be. Don't give me that "it's cheper now"-stuff. It's not. I even posted the picture as proof.
 
Furthermore, I don't care if I can grind up 20 gold in fifteen minutes at lvl 50. I just want to dye my clothes with a dye I already own. It shouldn't cost anything (I already own the dye), and making it cost 20 gold just to dye the jacket is absurd. How much will it cost to dye the whole set? What if I want to change the dye later? Dye-prices in this game is ridiculous at times. True, some of the dyes are cheap enough, but some dyes are mindblowingly expensive - even if, as I said, I already own the dye. Why do I have to pay for it again every time I want to use it? Dye it blue? Pay for it. Dye it red? Pay for it again. Dye it blue again? Pay a third time. Ridiculous.
 
And look at Guild Wars 2, for instance. Once you own a dye, you own it for life, and can use it as much as you want for free. Why can't we do that here? It doesn't make any sense.
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There needs to be gold sinks in the game to keep the economy even and fair.
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You keep saying that as though there aren't already plenty of other gold sinks in the game. Dye? Doesn't have to be one. Stop pretending that people want everything in the game to be free; it's extremely disingenuous.
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			Housing (MASSIVE one right there), repairs (another big one), crafting, various vendor cosmetics, rep items, those medisprays, amp respecs... I haven't done anything with rune whatsits, so I don't know if there is any kind of gold sink associated with that. The AH and CX also represent some pretty hefty gold sinks with the fees. There may be more, but those are what I can think of off the top of my head.	
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Housing (MASSIVE one right there), repairs (another big one), crafting, various vendor cosmetics, rep items, those medisprays, amp respecs... I haven't done anything with rune whatsits, so I don't know if there is any kind of gold sink associated with that. The AH and CX also represent some pretty hefty gold sinks with the fees. There may be more, but those are what I can think of off the top of my head.
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Dyes are also "self-imposed" (really, what...) and probably don't usually occur on a daily basis... so what would make them any more effective than cosmetics?
 
They're not. The prices really hurt a few people who go crazy with costumes (like myself, I will admit) and are barely noticed or even used by anyone else. That is not a particularly useful gold sink. I really doubt removing the cost would lead to some sudden explosion of inflation, because that would have to mean that everyone is dyeing their gear constantly. And that just isn't happening.	
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Hey, there's always the different shades of brown. ;D
 
(Seriously, though, I actually do enjoy brown as well. XD)	
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			Used to cost plays to due a row of black for me. Now it's gold.	
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As I keep saying, I'm trying to dye the exact same jacket with the exact same dye at the exact same character level, yet the price is now nearly four times as much as it used to be. Don't give me that "it's cheper now"-stuff. It's not. I even posted the picture as proof.
 
OH but it is cheaper as a whole...In some cases FAR more cheaper than it used to be. There are several factors that work into the cost of the dye process as mentioned earlier
 
Furthermore, I don't care if I can grind up 20 gold in fifteen minutes at lvl 50. I just want to dye my clothes with a dye I already own. It shouldn't cost anything (I already own the dye), and making it cost 20 gold just to dye the jacket is absurd. How much will it cost to dye the whole set? What if I want to change the dye later? Dye-prices in this game is ridiculous at times. True, some of the dyes are cheap enough, but some dyes are mindblowingly expensive - even if, as I said, I already own the dye. Why do I have to pay for it again every time I want to use it? Dye it blue? Pay for it. Dye it red? Pay for it again. Dye it blue again? Pay a third time. Ridiculous.
 
And look at Guild Wars 2, for instance. Once you own a dye, you own it for life, and can use it as much as you want for free. Why can't we do that here? It doesn't make any sense.
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I see the GW2 comparison often when people talk about the dye system. However they pick out this one specific aspect as opposed to the entirety of the costuming setup in and of itself.
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Hey folks,
 
I can't confirm what was changed myself, but we'll get this flagged with Dev and try and get a confirmed response. If you can provide any additional examples of low-level gear/cheap dyes being more expensive post-patch that would be amazing.
 
Sorry we can't help further at this point, but we'll do what we can.	
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Actually no isn't the only relevant thing to this discussion. If you're going to speak about an aspect of a system and discuss/compare/advocate for a change properly you need to think of it as a whole and not pick at it with a narrow view. You chose to cite GW2 dye system which is a small part of their wardrobe/costume system and as such I'm presenting you with the fact that the aspect the player is charged for is the reverse. I honestly can't think of a single game with costume/wardrobes that is completely free.
 
The prices have been normalized for Dye costs and sorry you can't understand or see that if anything you picked a possible outlier at most. I spend quite a lot on housing and costuming and it feels pretty damn good that I don't feel like I'm being punished anymore for using dark energy dye and feel pidgeon holed to using cheaper ones...	
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Housing (MASSIVE one right there), repairs (another big one), crafting, various vendor cosmetics, rep items, those medisprays, amp respecs... I haven't done anything with rune whatsits, so I don't know if there is any kind of gold sink associated with that. The AH and CX also represent some pretty hefty gold sinks with the fees. There may be more, but those are what I can think of off the top of my head.
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That's because it's the only thing that's relevant here.
 
But anyway, I've said what I had to say, and I proved I was right already in the first post. I'm done with this discussion. Dyes were far too expensive, and now it's waaaay more expensive than it was. Not happy about that... :(
 
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			Dying is way cheaper, Dominion Red on my raid gear before the drop was multiple plat, not so much anymore, think it was like 50-60 gold.	
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			My Spacetime Blue Stormtrooper outfit only cost me 40g instead of 2-3p. 	
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I actually saw the complete opposite. When I looked at dying my entire Explorer costume with Dark Energy, before Drop 3, it didn't even cost 1 Gold (bug maybe because it seemed awfully cheap given the Dye I was using), but when I went to try again today it cost me almost 60 Gold. Really should have dyed it before Drop 3 cause it's going to cost me a lot now. Oh well. Lesson learned :P
 
I do like that they've added a Dye removal option now. Correcting any Dye mistakes or wanting to revert them back to normal will be much easier now. Does removing Dyes cost anything? I haven't had a chance to check.
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Dying is way cheaper, Dominion Red on my raid gear before the drop was multiple plat, not so much anymore, think it was like 50-60 gold.
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I actually saw the complete opposite. When I looked at dying my entire Explorer costume with Dark Energy, before Drop 3, it didn't even cost 1 Gold (bug maybe because it seemed awfully cheap given the Dye I was using), but when I went to try again today it cost me almost 60 Gold. Really should have dyed it before Drop 3 cause it's going to cost me a lot now. Oh well. Lesson learned :P
 
I do like that they've added a Dye removal option now. Correcting any Dye mistakes or wanting to revert them back to normal will be much easier now. Does removing Dyes cost anything? I haven't had a chance to check.
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Dye removal is free
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Visual bug 100%. Are you sure you weren't mistaking g for p? It's not the most expensive "black", but it was never cheap. 
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