Chat:Morning Glories 33

Morning Glories Issue 33 Tinychat from October 16, 2013 
 Nick Spencer
 Joe Eisma
0001 macey entered the room
0002 caseyballvins entered the room
0003 ben1125 entered the room
0004 richard_vasseur entered the room
0005 haley entered the room
0006 tori entered the room
0007 guest-135596 changed nickname to haley
 
0008 macey1 entered the room
0009 guest-135605 changed nickname to tori
 
0010 veronica entered the room
0011 guest-135647 changed nickname to veronica
 
0012 liam entered the room
0013 caseyballvins: well then... that issue happened
0014 guest-135650 changed nickname to liam
 
0015 liam: no it didn't
0016 liam: there was no issue
0017 liam: this is a mass hallucination
0018 guest-135593 changed nickname to macey
 
0019 guest-135611 changed nickname to macey1
 
0020 caseyballvins: we were all drugged
0021 macey: yes maybe there was no issue
0022 ben1125: I knew it!
0023 macey: it was too painful to handle
0024 tori: yes
0025 caseyballvins: maybe they lied when they said there would be two this month
0026 liam: those evil people
0027 francy entered the room
0028 tori: terrible, terrible people, who hurt us such
0029 haley: no wonder they were glad about the date of the panel
0030 guest-135671 changed nickname to francy
 
0031 macey: this issue was sad but not awful until that last page
0032 macey: how the fuck does nick make one single page that game-changing?
0033 haley: and then retroactive major character death WHAT
0034 francy: yeah when i saw everyone freaking out i was like
0035 francy: "Well everyone always freak out at new issues this one can't be worse than usual"
0036 francy: no
0037 alison entered the room
0038 francy: no i was wrong
0039 veronica: i think i got it when we got a warning, you know. like oh crap.
0040 guest-135689 changed nickname to alison
 
0041 ben1125: I have no idea how they manage to make every new thing the biggest game changer yet
0042 tori: I've never been that terrible at the end of an issue, i had seen brella's warnings but i
0043 tori: was not nearly prepared for that ending
0044 ashley entered the room
0045 ben1125: By the time they get to Issue 100 the series will have caused mass heart attacks
0046 macey: im actually kind of dreading running this chat with everyone so distraught
0047 macey: i hope theres no breakdowns in here tonight
0048 tori: That was earlier, i think i'm good
0049 veronica: no breakdowns, it's already happened.
0050 guest-135746 entered the room
0051 caseyballvins: yeah, that was earlier
0052 haley: been there done that
0053 liam: I'm still kind of in the middle of being not okay, but it's not entirely MG related so
0054 veronica: breakdowns earlier, calm collective conversation now.
0055 guest-135713 changed nickname to ashley
 
0056 francy: unless someone just read the issue then comes in here immediately after finishing
0057 francy: then possible breakdown
0058 tori: likely breakdown, then
0059 veronica: we'd witness a breakdown about morning glories in real time.
0060 macey: OH MY GOD so emily it catching up with this WHOLE arc tonight
0061 macey: including this issue and she's huge on hisao/guillaume
0062 liam: oh jesus
0063 caseyballvins: oh dear
0064 haley: oh man poor dear
0065 tori: oh no
0066 macey: so when/if she comes in tonight let's all be nice.
0067 caseyballvins: very nice
0068 francy: we'll hold hands
0069 tori: extremely nice
0070 richard_vasseur: were always nice
0071 veronica: peace and love.
0072 macey: nothing sad about this issue
0073 tori: nothing
0074 francy: nope everything was nice and dandy
0075 macey: i like how we're all on the same wavelength tonight. united by sorrow
0076 tori: it's different seeing that much of a mass reaction
0077 haley: the end of that letter was the last page right?
0078 tori: yes
0079 ben1125: A few before, I thought?
0080 susan entered the room
0081 macey: haley if youre serious then no. if we are pretending the end didnt happen
0082 macey: yes.
0083 guest-135830 changed nickname to susan
 
0084 upguntha entered the room
0085 susan: I'M HERE
0086 haley: haha no i'm just joining in the imaginary party
0087 ben1125: Ah 
0088 macey: who even ALLOWED that letter, by the by
0089 caseyballvins: OKAY
0090 ben1125: Hisao has very nice handwriting
0091 guest-135839 changed nickname to upguntha
 
0092 caseyballvins: THat letter was not okay
0093 tori: he does, very neat and legible
0094 veronica: it makes me wonder if jun has nice handwriing too. oh wait.
0095 francy: NO GUILLAUME'S SPEECH
0096 liam: OI OI OI
0097 caseyballvins: i really hope guillaume has already seen it because if he hasn't yet...
0098 upguntha: heyoooo
0099 veronica: yeah i made myself sad again.
0100 francy: THAT WAS NOT ALLOWED
0101 macey: i feel like jun would be terribly messy and hisao very neat, haha
0102 tori: oh gosh, i do not even want to imagine that letter getting to guillaume
0103 macey: it isnt sinking into me that hisao may be dead yet
0104 upguntha: well he did destrioy that room
0105 susan: macey he isn't duh
0106 macey: i think its more than possible he's not COMPLETELY dead considering the blue light but
0107 caseyballvins: it'll never sink in that this has happened
0108 macey: ??????
0109 tori: susan's got it
0110 caseyballvins: zoe hasn't sunk in yet
0111 francy: i'm still in denial over zoe
0112 upguntha: whelp
0113 haley: always in denial over zoe
0114 alison: I'm also in denial over Zoe.
0115 tori: let's just rely and look to that blue light for hope
0116 liam: So like maybe it'll turn out to be like a search for spock thing?
0117 ben1125: I think Hisao's still out there. Jun seemed to know a lot more than I thought he would
0118 macey: then again if the samsara thing is correct nobody is really dead
0119 caseyballvins: fingers crossed
0120 francy: hisao and zoe are obviously hanging out together
0121 caseyballvins: obviously
0122 caseyballvins: they're on vacay
0123 upguntha: what if rhey're sharing the body
0124 haley: but jun doesnt know? oooh
0125 macey: i was wondering if jun had some/all of hisao's memories the way he acted
0126 francy: like yugioh
0127 macey: especially around guillaume
0128 guest entered the room
0129 guest-135923 changed nickname to guest
 
0130 macey: LIKE YUGIOH.....
0131 guest left the room
0132 tori: yeah, that is a good question
0133 nick entered the room
0134 ben1125: They're Junisao!
0135 guest-135950 changed nickname to nick
 
0136 susan: junisao is canon
0137 tori: oh yes, the true juniaso
0138 haley: its happening!
0139 guest-135962 entered the room
0140 haley: *happened
0141 macey: it's jun in hisaos body its like the alpha fukayama
0142 ben1125: Settled!
0143 upguntha: nowwww
0144 nick: hi everyone
 
0145 guest-135974 entered the room
0146 susan: hi nick
0147 guest-135962 left the room
0148 tori: hi nick
0149 upguntha: hiiiiii
0150 francy: hiii!!
0151 caseyballvins: hi nick
0152 veronica: hi nick, don't mind us we're just crying.
0153 macey: nick you did a good job on this one. nice job. nice job making us all cry
0154 haley: well thats actually really interesting though- is the birthday thing body related or mind
0155 guest-135995 entered the room
0156 haley: like if hisao is the one they wanted but now jun is in his body is it still legit
0157 macey: i actually havent seen people being pissed like you and joe thought, nick
0158 macey: we're all just very sad.
0159 guest-135995 left the room
0160 upguntha: just broken
0161 tori: more just stunned and shocked, not so much anger
0162 francy: and in denial
0163 nick: just crying. lots and lots of crying
 
0164 caseyballvins: so much crying
0165 veronica: my room is filled with my tears.
0166 macey: yeah, nailed it
0167 arran44uk entered the room
0168 upguntha: you are the G RR Martin of comics
0169 nick: well, this was a funny one, because I killed him months ago, and nobody knew
 
0170 guest-136025 changed nickname to arran44uk
 
0171 francy: "funny"
0172 susan: hilarious
0173 caseyballvins: after i read the issue i went back a couple and it just... so interestig to read again
0174 macey: did joe know?
0175 tori: haha
0176 nick: probably the meanest-feeling death I could write in a way
 
0177 liam left the room
0178 nick: i believe joe did know, yeah
 
0179 richard_vasseur: why was it mean?
0180 nick: ask him when he gets here, but I'm pretty sure I told him
 
0181 runninglate entered the room
0182 haley: who knew that retroactive death would be so much worse
0183 nick: because we didn't really get to do any goodbye at the time
 
0184 guest-136055 changed nickname to runninglate
 
0185 richard_vasseur left the room
0186 macey: yeah i'll definetely ask. i'd love to know what he thought drawing literal junisao
0187 nick: but that's also what I like about it
 
0188 richard_vasseur entered the room
0189 guest-136064 changed nickname to richard_vasseur
 
0190 upguntha: 7 months retro
0191 richard_vasseur: is anyone still here?
0192 macey: we're all still here!
0193 upguntha: lol
0194 francy: that reminds me. does anyone want the junisao url
0195 richard_vasseur: it blinked off
0196 francy: cause i have it but idk if i'm ever gonna use it
0197 macey: we're actually disturbingly in sync tonight about opinions....i think we're all in shock
0198 upguntha: it was a moment of silence
0199 upguntha: for our boy
0200 veronica: yeah, i think this is the shock talking. i'm sort of contemplating reading everything
0201 veronica: again with this in mind.
0202 macey: man even after the season finale and future vanessa we weren't like this
0203 tori: I'll take it francy if no one else is feeling it
0204 arran44uk left the room
0205 runninglate: should i tell joe it is safe to come out of his bunker?
0206 macey: tell joe we're not even mad! we're all just crying! a lot!
0207 francy: okie
0208 tori: thanks
0209 veronica: yeah tell joe it's ok, i mean it's just me crying tears into my tears.
0210 tori: lots of tears but no riot or anything
0211 veronica: i can't navigate through my tears to do anything.
0212 macey: if anything we'll praise him for all the emotion in these pages
0213 upguntha: i;m just gonna stick wirh my Yugioh
0214 caseyballvins: i like your yugioh idea
0215 guest-136166 entered the room
0216 veronica: gross sobbing. "let's just yugioh."
0217 upguntha: I almost died looking at Guillaume when he was passing hat note
0218 francy: isn't everyone like dying in yugioh tho
0219 guest-136166 left the room
0220 francy left the room
0221 francy entered the room
0222 veronica: FRANCY
0223 guest-136169 changed nickname to francy
 
0224 francy: whoops disconnected
0225 macey: okay if we make yugioh jokes about junisao an actual thing i'm gonna
0226 guest-136187 entered the room
0227 susan: we already have madoka jokes
0228 francy: can someone just photoshop everyone dueling
0229 upguntha: lmao
0230 francy: irina shooting zoe with a blue eyes white dragon card
0231 guest-136187 left the room
0232 haley: wow i need that to be a thing
0233 upguntha: well they are playing some sort of game
0234 ben1125: Let's all chip in on a commision for that. Please?
0235 francy: shit i just made myself laugh then want to cry in one sentence
0236 guest entered the room
0237 guest-135974 changed nickname to manolis
 
0238 joe entered the room
0239 guest-136220 changed nickname to guest
 
0240 upguntha: Daramount woud def be Pegasus
0241 manolis left the room
0242 guest-136226 changed nickname to joe
 
0243 upguntha: ph wait Pamela in toon World
0244 guest-135746 left the room
0245 guest-136241 entered the room
0246 haley: ike can be kaiba
0247 macey: i can't believe we went from crying to yugioh jokes only 13 minutes into the chat
0248 guest left the room
0249 haley: we're resilient like that out of pure necessity
0250 caseyballvins: it's us coping
0251 joe: everybody got their torches? 
0252 upguntha: we have to cope
0253 caseyballvins: we're just sad, joe, not angry
0254 caseyballvins: good job though, really captured the emotions.
0255 richard_vasseur: torches for a funeral pyre
0256 tori: yes, very brilliant and good art this issue
0257 upguntha: Guillaume was awesome
0258 upguntha: i felt all his feels
0259 francy: really tho that speech where he's just. I LOOKED AT JUN AND SAW YOU!!!
0260 joe: thanks, tori!
 
0261 francy: i died
0262 veronica: yeah, i think the dead eyes on jun/hisao at the end really sealed it for me.
0263 francy: then that revealed happened and i died again
0264 veronica: he almost looked sort of faceless?
0265 veronica: it was really striking.
0266 runninglate: joe did really great stuff with all the characters in this issue
0267 joe: d'aww
 
0268 upguntha: Joe did you know of the death before this issue
0269 macey: joe you did amazing. we are the OPPOSITE of rioting
0270 guest entered the room
0271 guest-136349 changed nickname to guest
 
0272 macey: by the way, that last page is stunning. your expressions on jun are gutwrenching
0273 caseyballvins: nick you did a wonderful job as well, even if it broke hearts
0274 joe: i sort of did. the 'take me' line was cut out of issue 25. or 27. i can't remember.
 
0275 abetterfuture entered the room
0276 guest-136370 changed nickname to abetterfuture
 
0277 francy: oohh
0278 susan: 25
0279 susan: right?
0280 upguntha: i always thought that was Hunter
0281 macey: i thought it was hunter for ages until i realized he had a sleeveless shirt on, haha.
0282 upguntha: details d'hough
0283 susan: why would it be hunter though hah
0284 ben1125: So was the "take me" during Hunter's time-shiftiness in 25, or Casey's Cylinder-ing in 29?
0285 abetterfuture: OH MAN. Just finished the issue 3 minutes ago.
0286 upguntha: cause he was in rhat trance thing white light
0287 abetterfuture: 0.0. Joe, you brilliant bastard.
0288 joe: thanks!
 
0289 upguntha: Hunter i think
0290 abetterfuture: The contrast between the letter and the various flashbacks was awesome.
0291 abetterfuture: Softened the blow.
0292 macey: i have to ask, though
0293 macey: what the hell was with hisao's flashback jacket?
0294 joe: haha
 
0295 ben1125: I was curious about Lara's 
0296 joe: doesn't anyone remember the 'morning glories fashion' sketches i did?
 
0297 upguntha: why are Fukayamas always fighthing with flashback
0298 joe: that was jun's jacket
 
0299 macey: like oh my god is it canon that hisao has no fashion sense now
0300 caseyballvins: you're right joe, lara is quite the fashionista
0301 joe: lara went with bright colors since she was in japan. 
0302 macey: i wore an outfit today that basically was a darker-colored version of lara's. freaked me
0303 macey: out when i opened the issue.
0304 veronica: deja vu.
0305 caseyballvins: throw that outfit out, it's evil! 
0306 veronica: i actually want to say too, i really loved the whole vonnegut concept tied in.
0307 joe: haha
 
0308 veronica: and not just the conversation on the sort of existential concepts but also vonnegut and
0309 veronica: time skipping, which was kind of briefly mentioned?
0310 veronica: it intrigued me.
0311 caseyballvins: i need to reread it but i don't want to touch this issue for awhile
0312 macey: i was waiting for slaughterhouse five to be brought up for AGES
0313 veronica: (slaughterhouse-five is my jam as much as sirens of titan.)
0314 macey: happy it finally happened, especially considering its subtitle.
0315 veronica: it totally has a whole vonnegut vibe!
0316 abetterfuture: How many of the original six are going to survive the series as this rate?
0317 francy: i was thinking that
0318 richard_vasseur: maybe they all will
0319 upguntha: So I was right about Hunter having an acciident after his dream cause that mattress is gon
0320 upguntha: e
0321 macey: at this rate i'm thinking just jade
0322 darrrrkvengeance entered the room
0323 veronica: yeaaaah jade.
0324 guest-136517 changed nickname to darrrrkvengeance
 
0325 caseyballvins: seriously though, it'll just be jade
0326 darrrrkvengeance: hola!
0327 francy: there's irony in that considering her whole "no i must die" thing
0328 darrrrkvengeance: ugh, i got the puke color
0329 veronica: jade is the chronosynclastic infundibulum.
0330 abetterfuture: I'm sharing macey's color. Confusing.
0331 francy: roni i have no idea what that means
0332 darrrrkvengeance: fixed
0333 veronica: i'm stuck on vonnegut, francy, i'm sorry.
0334 ben1125 left the room
0335 francy: i forgive you
0336 veronica: http
0337 macey: there's only a certain amount of colors unfortunately
0338 veronica: *go
0339 upguntha: what is Nick planing for my Jader Spader\
0340 macey: after an ending like this i'm worried for jade in two weeks, yeah!
0341 abetterfuture: I could see Casey dying late season 2 with the mystery shifting to her many guest
0342 susan: are nick and joe still here?
0343 darrrrkvengeance: i bet i missed all the good convo earlier, but can i just say I LOVE YOU HISAO!!!
0344 abetterfuture: appearences as Clarkson.
0345 macey: i thought this would be a low key arc! it's not! it's nooooot!
0346 joe: yes
 
0347 joe: i'm here
 
0348 susan: ohh hi
0349 joe: hello
 
0350 francy: earlier we were just making yugioh jokes you didn't miss much
0351 nick: yep, still here
 
0352 caseyballvins: will we ever have a low key arc again?
0353 haley: has there been an issue this arc without a giant reveal?
0354 susan: sorry i thought we scared you away
0355 joe: low key is not in our vocabulary
 
0356 darrrrkvengeance: glad we've got Jader Paders and Desafortunato to come, however
0357 veronica: loki.
0358 guest left the room
0359 nick: this became the downer arc, really
 
0360 jayjay entered the room
0361 francy: well not entirely down
0362 joe: really did
 
0363 abetterfuture: Thank you for writing such amazingly affecting characters, Nick.
0364 guest-136598 changed nickname to jayjay
 
0365 francy: vanessa being not dead was great
0366 veronica: yes! that's true!
0367 richard_vasseur: well bye all
0368 tori: I was expecting a trade off with that grace of vanessa living but not this
0369 upguntha: that brings Clarkson's visit to Japan more confusing
0370 richard_vasseur left the room
0371 macey: bye richard!
0372 darrrrkvengeance: well, i guess it gives Real Jun an opportunity to redeem himself
0373 darrrrkvengeance: interesting to see how he deals w Hunter
0374 darrrrkvengeance: and viceversa
0375 macey: but the grace of vanessa living came with the knowledge she's been locked up for so long
0376 guest-136241 left the room
0377 tori: yes, there is that unfortunate bit too
0378 darrrrkvengeance: any big reveals at NYCC?
0379 macey: dv there was a bleeding cool summary linked on today's study hall
0380 darrrrkvengeance: (i mean, aside from Stephanie Brown) 
0381 nick: oh yeah, big thank you to anyone here who made the panel
 
0382 joe: yes, thank you
 
0383 runninglate: THANK YOU
0384 joe: and we will have matt's head for not getting that audio. haha
 
0385 nick: really, really great all around
 
0386 runninglate: (sorry for messing up the two things)
0387 macey: i don't know i think matt's head is still pretty alright
0388 joe: i know you're out there meylikhov. count your blessings. ;)
 
0389 upguntha: lmao
0390 francy1 entered the room
0391 guest-136673 changed nickname to francy1
 
0392 darrrrkvengeance: i feel like Irina would have gotten the recording right. just sayin'. ;)
0393 joe: haha
 
0394 runninglate: I STARTED the recording. I just didn't notice when it got turned off.
0395 macey: irina probably has a recorder built right in her rifle
0396 macey: ITS OKAY MATT WE STILL LIKE YOU
0397 caseyballvins: i'm curious on how irina will react to hisao. how much will she care? will she an ally
0398 caseyballvins: you know, when she finds out
0399 veronica: don't mind me, i'm still caught up on the vonnegut references and thinking too much about
0400 veronica: them.
0401 joe: who knew we had so many vonnegut fans!
 
0402 francy1: mmm
0403 upguntha: She will go Ape shit, it's partly her fault
0404 francy1: yeah i was thinking that, i don't think she'd be
0405 francy1: too happy about it
0406 francy1: at all
0407 veronica: it sort of makes a lot of sense and i'm hanging myself up on it.
0408 darrrrkvengeance: yeah, maybe Guillaume's potentially developing a care for Jun breaks down the wall a bit
0409 darrrrkvengeance: btwn the Truants and the non-"children of Abraham"
0410 macey: i was just thinking about that- you could, in a sense, say the truants killed hisao now
0411 macey: which isn't gonna go over well, especially for poor guillaume
0412 nick: you definitely could, yes.
 
0413 veronica: ... yeah, you're right.
0414 veronica: crap.
0415 francy1: ..... yeah thank you for not showing us guillaume's reaction to the reveal
0416 francy1: i don't think i could have handled that
0417 nick: we'll be dealing more with this in the very next issue
 
0418 caseyballvins: i think we were all guillaume in that moment, francy. we didn't need to see his reaction
0419 francy1: cries
0420 macey: http
0421 haley: seriously
0422 caseyballvins: THANKS MACEY
0423 francy1: THEY WERE SO HAPPY TO SEE HIM AGAIN NO
0424 francy1: cries a lot
0425 tori: that pannel, their smiles to see him again
0426 macey: just when their guilt over what happened to akiko was probably bad enough!
0427 francy1: i thought we were pretending nothing bad happened this is the opposite of pretending
0428 caseyballvins: ugh those poor kids
0429 haley: yeah this chat just got devastating
0430 veronica: francy come here let me cry on you.
0431 darrrrkvengeance: Hisao seems to know a lot about the miseries of MGA, even if it's only from Abraham
0432 caseyballvins: hunter when he finds out is going to be awful as well
0433 haley: and the issue was already devastating
0434 francy1: my arms are open
0435 veronica: your face is ripe for crying.
0436 beth entered the room
0437 upguntha: Aisians are not safe in this school
0438 abetterfuture: Will the "non-believers" like Ike even believe that Hisao switch brains with his dead bro?
0439 darrrrkvengeance: yeah, i was thinking that too, upguntha
0440 macey: if this issue taught us anything it's "don't be japanese at morning glory academy"
0441 francy1: as if ike would even care
0442 francy1: or from asia in general, really
0443 macey: or, you know, be a person in general
0444 caseyballvins: that too
0445 abetterfuture: On a lighter note
0446 caseyballvins: being alive at that school is dangerous
0447 macey: you know, just don't be at morning glory academy at all.
0448 francy1: being alive outside the school doesn't seem to help anyone either tbh
0449 caseyballvins: listen to your parents when they say they don't want you to go
0450 macey: luisa and i were joking if we get an ike issue next arc it's just gonna be him reading
0451 macey: the whole time. making snarky comments at the characters
0452 guest-136841 changed nickname to beth
 
0453 francy1: best issue
0454 francy1: everyone else having a breakdown around him and he just
0455 upguntha: i would pay millions for that
0456 francy1: turns the page
0457 guest-136904 entered the room
0458 caseyballvins: it'll be the low key arc. and ever book will be a clue to solving the series
0459 haley: hahah i need that to happen
0460 guest-136904 left the room
0461 caseyballvins: *low key issue
0462 beth: hello all!
0463 macey: no no maria i like that. a whole arc of ike reading books
0464 beth: also macey that sounds beautiufl
0465 macey: BETH HELLO
0466 tori: hi beth
0467 upguntha: that Ike tumblr is giving me life
0468 francy1: SAME
0469 caseyballvins: yes, an arc of ike reading. each issue a new book
0470 beth: YES
0471 francy1: every time i see it i smile
0472 francy1: bless you ike i am so glad you are not dead
0473 beth: it's a blessing to my days
0474 caseyballvins: brb
0475 joe: i mentioned this on tumblr, but just in case you guys didn't see it--
 
0476 beth: ike can't die there'd be so much less snark
0477 abetterfuture: Will the 36-onwards arc still be more single-character issues? Or another continuous story
0478 joe: the exterior signage in japan doesn't make sense b/c it's not supposed to. haha
 
0479 francy1: oohh
0480 joe: don't want anyone reading into the signs looking for secrets
 
0481 beth: ooooooooooh
0482 nick: yep, few more character issues to follow
 
0483 beth: that's kind of you
0484 nick: fortunato-ian-akiko
 
0485 beth: akikooooooooooooo
0486 abetterfuture: Yes!
0487 macey: YEAH
0488 tori: awesome
0489 francy1: yesss
0490 caseyballvins: IAN YES
0491 caseyballvins: TUNA!
0492 abetterfuture: Where's Jade in there?
0493 darrrrkvengeance: oh, i thought the BC article said we had some Jader Paders coming up
0494 macey: nick, would you say 35 is your......
0495 haley: next issue is jade
0496 nick: jade is next issue
 
0497 macey: FISHIEST issue yet?
0498 beth: 
0499 veronica: yes jade!!!
0500 francy1: i hope vicky can get in here for ian issue
0501 darrrrkvengeance: jade!
0502 abetterfuture: I'm looking forward to all of these.
0503 runninglate: next issue is fun
0504 darrrrkvengeance: i love this comic! thank you, nick, joe!
0505 joe: hey thank you 
0506 abetterfuture: Issue 18 was the very first MG issue I ever read, and it has always remained my favorite
0507 susan entered the room
0508 abetterfuture: for its simple, sweet love story.
0509 guest-137042 changed nickname to susan1
 
0510 susan left the room
0511 susan1 changed nickname to susan
 
0512 abetterfuture: This issue is now tied with it for best.
0513 veronica: i think i read morning glories 1 - 20 in one swoop and it all blurs together for me.
0514 gerard_guzman entered the room
0515 veronica: what happened when? yeah i dont know.
0516 beth: 18 was the issue i was most looking forward to when i first read them because i had seen
0517 guest-137051 changed nickname to gerard_guzman
 
0518 beth: panels from it
0519 abetterfuture: DC and Marvel should take tips from you on how to effectively kill off a major character.
0520 francy1: or just tips in general
0521 francy left the room
0522 beth: yes
0523 joe: haha
 
0524 darrrrkvengeance: contemporaneously, issue 3 might have been my favorite for the way it expanded teh score
0525 darrrrkvengeance: scope
0526 darrrrkvengeance: and also 10.
0527 guest-137069 entered the room
0528 darrrrkvengeance: but i'm loving all the issues this arc
0529 joe: yay i love 10.
 
0530 francy1: idk what my favorite issue is but it probably involves zoe
0531 abetterfuture: Even if Hisao survived through time travel wierdness, I'd still love this issue for the
0532 guest-137069 left the room
0533 veronica: i think i just love everything. it's hard to love individual issues for me.
0534 abetterfuture: genuine emotions presented in insane scenarios.
0535 macey: 23's still my favorite. 6, 10 and 11 are up there....
0536 veronica: i really got started on the trades, and ever since then i'm like. READING MONTHLY?
0537 veronica: GASP. how will i survive.
0538 abetterfuture: (WHICH MEANS HE SHOULD SURVIVE PLEASE)
0539 nick: yeah, should be totally clear here-- he's dead. 100 percent. I promise.
 
0540 tori: please
0541 abetterfuture: 
0542 francy1: nick that's not helping
0543 nick: SORRY
 
0544 beth: 
0545 caseyballvins: 16 is my favourite, it was well done. but every issue is sooo it's a tie for second place
0546 francy1: let us believe
0547 joe: nick loves sad faces
 
0548 macey: [frowny face
0549 veronica: nick spencer ultimate helper
0550 abetterfuture: Do we have that same gaurantee for Zoe?
0551 beth: ??
0552 nick: oh yeah
 
0553 francy1: i'm never leaving my bubble of denial
0554 nick: I've talked about that one at length
 
0555 upguntha: 2 glories down
0556 abetterfuture: Huh. You know, I'm probably actually happier with that.
0557 haley: wow i leave for five minutes and suddenly everything gets 100 times worse
0558 macey: FOUR TO GO
0559 veronica: francy i will hold you.
0560 abetterfuture: Makes death way more emotional.
0561 nick: http 
0562 veronica: i wonder what will happen if all the glories die. (don't say it, me.)
0563 francy1: i honestly don't mind the deaths as long as things get explained
0564 beth: i will die as well probably
0565 macey: it's like a countdown. which glory will die next? find out this week on MORNING GLORIES
0566 haley left the room
0567 veronica: i mean game of thrones.
0568 gerard_guzman: I'm gonna believe you're doing the thing were you lie though your teeth
0569 darrrrkvengeance: well, it seems like death isn't just one thing
0570 francy1: let's make bets on it
0571 darrrrkvengeance: deaths and deaths
0572 gerard_guzman: it's the only thing that's making me not be incredibly pissed right now
0573 veronica: and crying and crying.
0574 darrrrkvengeance: those that resign one to eternal repetition, and those that transcend it, manya
0575 darrrrkvengeance: maybe
0576 macey: tbh i can't see any of the other glories dying soon. a truant's going next
0577 darrrrkvengeance: (which, i realize, isn't much help to the survivors)
0578 joe: this will definitely go down as the cheeriest chat we've had. 
0579 francy1: especially since it turned out vanessa is still alive
0580 darrrrkvengeance: lol
0581 veronica: jkldfjslk joe.
0582 francy1: need to even out the numbers
0583 upguntha: Vanesaaaaaaaaaa
0584 francy1: my money's on akiko or ian
0585 veronica: well, i'm thinking about vanessa being alive, and i'm thinking about. prior issues.
0586 joe: matt--you need to post that montage you put together at the beginning of the panel
 
0587 veronica: this isn't helping me.
0588 macey: ian seems....unfortunately very expendable
0589 beth: yea.....
0590 haley entered the room
0591 guest-137147 changed nickname to haley
 
0592 macey: i love the little shit but he hasn't done much
0593 gerard_guzman: you make me happy with vanessa surviving and then this 
0594 francy1: sob
0595 veronica: gross sobbing.
0596 upguntha: when I read ian i give him Bakura's voice
0597 runninglate: Should I?
0598 francy1: dkgjds
0599 abetterfuture: I bet Ian's got some Zoe-level secrets in his head.
0600 joe: most def
 
0601 macey: gonna do a count when this chat is done of how many times "sob" was said
0602 darrrrkvengeance: well, at least Hisao chooses to go to MGA, more or less knowing what's in store
0603 abetterfuture: He's been too normal so far.
0604 francy1: I JUST STARTED LAUGHING SO HARD AT BAKURA VOICE
0605 runninglate: It was *supposed* to be panel exclusive, but I guess since I messed up the recording I can
0606 gerard_guzman: tbf, at least Hisao has someone who's trying to save him
0607 upguntha: plz do
0608 gerard_guzman: just like casey's parents and brandon
0609 darrrrkvengeance: i mean, that's different from the Glories, and their parents
0610 darrrrkvengeance: could Casey choose to do what Hisao did w her parents, btw?
0611 abetterfuture: So if "Dead is dead," is Hodge 100% lying about Casey being able to save her parents?
0612 nick: it's a good question
 
0613 nick: big part of this season
 
0614 francy1: oh boy
0615 joe: surely hodge wouldn't be so dishonest
 
0616 gerard_guzman changed nickname to gerry
 
0617 caseyballvins: surely, joe, surely
0618 darrrrkvengeance: Hodge also seems to differentiate btwn deaths wrt how Brandon dies
0619 tori: surely
0620 francy1: no of course not, hodge is the most trustworthy character
0621 upguntha: that ---*******
0622 joe: haha
 
0623 veronica: hodge is just good at getting people to trust her. which makes her scarier.
0624 fredfredkonfred entered the room
0625 abetterfuture: LIke this issue, she seemed genuinely helpful to Hisao.
0626 darrrrkvengeance: well, she wears those excellent dresses!
0627 abetterfuture: But WE KNOW>
0628 joe: YEP
 
0629 guest-137228 entered the room
0630 caseyballvins: i feel like even everyone who doesn't trust and know not to can be fooled by her
0631 caseyballvins: she's terrifying
0632 caseyballvins: i love it
0633 gerry: she seems genuinely helpful every issue
0634 gerry: that's the problem with her
0635 guest-137228 left the room
0636 joe: i feel like hodge is gallivanting thru time just buying a ton of clothes
 
0637 guest-137219 changed nickname to fredfredkonfred
 
0638 joe: she has a problem
 
0639 darrrrkvengeance: lol
0640 francy1: that's her true objective
0641 upguntha: she just helps herself
0642 macey: hodge is trying to collect all of the world's flower clothing
0643 veronica: she seems genuinely helpful but like. i hate to say this, it reminds me of loki.
0644 veronica: yeah, every time she helps someone, she helps herself.
0645 macey: traveling through time to get limited edition looks
0646 veronica: is she lying? it's hard to tell.
0647 darrrrkvengeance: now that you mention it, i almost wish we'd seen Lara in a kimono
0648 joe: haha
 
0649 veronica: it's like the line where you tell someone the truth to lie to them.
0650 guest-137270 entered the room
0651 veronica: and that makes her terrifying.
0652 macey: she's making up for georgina and nine's limited wardrobes
0653 guest-137270 left the room
0654 joe: hahaha
 
0655 darrrrkvengeance: poor nine
0656 abetterfuture: I hope none of the Truants die for another 10 issues or so. They're still a *little* too
0657 macey: i bet nine's entire closet is just 30 copies of that same outfit
0658 abetterfuture: new to have the emotional impact Zoe and Hisao had.
0659 darrrrkvengeance: and 30 copies of a syringe
0660 susan: excuse you georgina looks fine
0661 caseyballvins: i dunno, when we thought jun was dead i was pretty upset
0662 caseyballvins: an dsure he'se been there awhile
0663 caseyballvins: we didn't know him
0664 caseyballvins: i'd be uspet if a truant died
0665 abetterfuture: SHUT UP WE HAVE TO STALL NICK.
0666 caseyballvins: haha
0667 macey: we've gotten really close to the truants super fast yeah. i'd be devastated
0668 abetterfuture: AS LONG AS WE CAN.
0669 macey: BUT YOU DIDNT HEAR THAT, NICK
0670 philmaira entered the room
0671 caseyballvins: NOTHING TO SEE HERE
0672 guest-137369 changed nickname to philmaira
 
0673 upguntha: I vote the trollup
0674 philmaira: hey. What I miss?
0675 macey: stay away from my irina omg
0676 abetterfuture: Crying.
0677 abetterfuture: At brilliance.
0678 beth: no truants can die
0679 beth: none
0680 tori: they die in senior centers, at ripe old ages
0681 darrrrkvengeance: well, unless they're making hallucinogenic seeds, dying is prolly what they're there for
0682 abetterfuture: We should get a "Six Feet Under" finale and have everyone die happily and old.
0683 beth: and then are reincarnated into cute lovely futures of sunshine and daisies and snuggles
0684 upguntha: Noooooo i would be on the floor sobing
0685 philmaira: don't spoil. I'mon the 3rd season of 6ft.
0686 abetterfuture: Sorry.
0687 gerry: and then we have an epilogue when everything starts again
0688 darrrrkvengeance: DON'T SPOIL 6FU!!!!
0689 darrrrkvengeance: (though the final 6 minutes are the best in tv)
0690 upguntha: i still can't watch that finale without crying
0691 upguntha: so much beauty
0692 darrrrkvengeance: yeah, i rewatch that ending over and over
0693 fredfredkonfred: Okay, so while I am very upset about Hisao, I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT JUN.
0694 abetterfuture: The final scene was the first I ever say of 6FU. I cried.
0695 caseyballvins: it'll be like the lost finale, they all find each other again
0696 fredfredkonfred: CHARACTER DEVELOPMENTTT.
0697 darrrrkvengeance: and obviously, i can't hear [that song
0698 tori: yes, the trade off is terribly bittersweet
0699 abetterfuture: What's everyone's guess for the final scene of MG?
0700 darrrrkvengeance: last episode of 6FU and second to last, third season of The Wire. best ever.
0701 beth: oh god
0702 gerry: a lot of lights
0703 beth: a morning glory flower should be in it somewhere
0704 haley: "for a better future"
0705 caseyballvins: ike asks if anything weird was happening at that school
0706 philmaira: WIRE
0707 beth: like just a field of morning glories or something
0708 beth: growing out of the ruins of the academy
0709 nick: okay, all, gotta run- any last questions?
 
0710 gerry: baby david appearing in space ala space odyssey
0711 philmaira: what's in the box?
0712 fredfredkonfred: When is cover with Zoe happening?
0713 nick: no zoe cover, she's dead 
0714 abetterfuture: Nope. But thanks for making a series where I can be happy with my favorite character dying
0715 fredfredkonfred: WITH THE GRAVES.
0716 darrrrkvengeance: how long before we see how David becomes Davidy
0717 macey: is the next arc as focused on ripping our hearts out as this one?
0718 nick: there will be a lot more david stuff this season
 
0719 beth: ooooh
0720 tori: exciting
0721 beth: that's super excting
0722 abetterfuture: Happy with that!
0723 nick: and I THINK next arc is slightly less depressing!
 
0724 caseyballvins: how long will the season be? do you know?
0725 francy1 changed nickname to francy
 
0726 beth: yay!
0727 beth: i think
0728 nick: 25 issues, through 50
 
0729 philmaira: did hisao give up Ms.Richmond?
0730 darrrrkvengeance: oh, and can you use your influence w Congress to end the shutdown, PLEASE
0731 macey: oh my god, thank the LORD
0732 gerry: did anyone else though the girls hisao gave up was zoe?
0733 nick: he certainly gave up someone
 
0734 beth: i definitely did at first
0735 upguntha: Zoeee
0736 nick: but hodge was very clear on her intentions being nonviolent
 
0737 macey: oh i thought it was zoe
0738 francy: i did too
0739 francy: but i'm also biased
0740 philmaira: more new characters?
0741 macey: hey, just because hodge's intentions were nonviolent doesn't mean things didn't change
0742 macey: when zoe started...you know killing students
0743 nick: there are more new characters coming this season, for sure
 
0744 upguntha: Hodge never lies
0745 francy: that should be a tshirt
0746 francy: "hodge never lies"
0747 gerry: with fowers
0748 darrrrkvengeance: more Hannah!!!
0749 francy: yes
0750 abetterfuture: I'm all little conflicted cause we have so many great ongoing storylines already.
0751 abetterfuture: But I'm sure I'll love the newbies just as much.
0752 beth: now i'll just have to get more attached to characters who also can't die
0753 francy: same
0754 nick: more hannah/av club this season, definitely
 
0755 darrrrkvengeance: YAY!
0756 darrrrkvengeance: 
0757 macey: i honestly really like mr n and the av club a lot already. give me ALL the new characters
0758 philmaira: What's the dealwith Walt,I mean Fortunado
0759 abetterfuture: Were the new characters always part of the plan or are they part of the 30-ish issue
0760 nick: lots more coming-- we're approaching GoT cast size
 
0761 abetterfuture: extension.
0762 guest-137540 entered the room
0763 abetterfuture: Excited and scared to hear that.
0764 upguntha: someone at the panel wanted to ask if the girls are allowed to wear pant uniforms
0765 francy: please don't kill off the cast as much as got does
0766 gerry: needs more gay
0767 beth: oh boy
0768 joe: haha i wish they had asked that
 
0769 fredfredkonfred: I concur.
0770 macey: PLEASE. more gay is always acceptable. more than acceptable.
0771 upguntha: i dont know why she didn't
0772 abetterfuture: Yeah, more LGBT characters would always be appreaciated.
0773 beth: yes please please please
0774 francy: LESBIANS
0775 haley: yessss
0776 gerry: yey
0777 beth: yesss
0778 fredfredkonfred: I ship Jade and Casey.
0779 darrrrkvengeance: less killing asian characters too
0780 caseyballvins: yes too all that
0781 gerry: oh yeah, don't kill akiko
0782 nick: there's already a plan there, and I'm AMAZED no one has picked up on it
 
0783 julienotrobin entered the room
0784 philmaira: gayness plan?
0785 upguntha: lol
0786 upguntha: or pants
0787 fredfredkonfred: A Jade and Casey riding off into the sunset together plan?
0788 darrrrkvengeance: maybe everyone dies according to their particular faith?
0789 guest-137555 changed nickname to julienotrobin
 
0790 nick: and yes, i didn't like killing both asian members of the original cast first
 
0791 nick: wait, did I say first? 
0792 macey: strokes chin. need to pay more attention to possible lesbians.
0793 abetterfuture: Thanks for the hint.
0794 susan: should've gone with hunter then lol
0795 beth: tru
0796 joe: if we'd killed hunter and jade, you'd all accuse us of being anti ginger!
 
0797 beth: but yes lesbians back to important things
0798 gerry: murder Ike already
0799 francy: ike isn't allowed to die
0800 beth: no not ike
0801 julienotrobin: I'm excited to see what Jun will be like now that he remembers things.
0802 philmaira: I'mlost. Is that plan rampant homosexuality or asian genocide?
0803 julienotrobin: and lesbians yes please
0804 abetterfuture: As cheesy as it is, it's always nice to see "people like myself" represented in the story
0805 abetterfuture: worlds I love.
0806 upguntha: so no pants plans
0807 francy: nah that's not cheesy
0808 nick: the cast will continue to get more diverse
 
0809 beth: yay!!
0810 julienotrobin: yay!
0811 darrrrkvengeance: wasn't trying to be provocative
0812 veronica: double yay!
0813 gerry: 
0814 upguntha: that person wanted to ask about a trans character
0815 darrrrkvengeance: just
0816 upguntha: i told her there might be one already
0817 fredfredkonfred: Akiko hasn't died has she?
0818 ashley left the room
0819 darrrrkvengeance: well, she's in a coma, right
0820 abetterfuture: Neither has Vanessa.
0821 gerry: comma
0822 nick: akiko is alive, yes. in a coma.
 
0823 darrrrkvengeance: she's been locked up for years
0824 upguntha: Zoe is Asian
0825 fredfredkonfred: Ah true.
0826 joe: okay i've got to run too. thanks, everyone, for sharing your thoughts!
 
0827 gerry: looking forward to Akiko waing up
0828 joe: about next issue--emotions continue to run high
 
0829 beth: oh no
0830 francy: oh god
0831 gerry: I imagine she's gonna have some important things to say
0832 joe: so-'til next time!
 
0833 haley: always
0834 veronica: thanks jooooe!!
0835 caseyballvins: brilliant issue, even though tears
0836 tori: thank you for breaking our hearts joe, good job!
0837 upguntha: Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
0838 beth: thank you!!
0839 veronica: fjdkls that's a lot of y's.
0840 francy: thank you <3
0841 beth: even if i was a complete wreck
0842 francy: you are the best
0843 darrrrkvengeance: loving the comic you guys! thanks so much!!!
0844 nick: night all
 
0845 joe left the room
0846 francy: <333
0847 upguntha: night
0848 veronica: niiiight!
0849 tori: bye nick
0850 haley: night!!
0851 gerry: g'night 
0852 veronica: by bros.
0853 macey: bye guys!
0854 caseyballvins: good night!
0855 macey: thanks for coming, once again, you're great
0856 nick: thanks for reading, sorry for the sadness
 
0857 macey: it's okay nick we forgive you
0858 guest-137540 left the room
0859 philmaira: night
0860 abetterfuture: Night.
0861 nick left the room
0862 tori: we are all too devoted to quit the comic
0863 francy: we were all prepared for a possible death at any given moment
0864 francy: zoe taught us that
0865 beth: it's too late now to turn back
0866 darrrrkvengeance: the future will be better
0867 macey: now im curious about the lesbians. where are they. how could i have missed them
0868 francy: ME TOO
0869 gerry: and if not, Casey can always change it
0870 susan: is it nine and hodge
0871 philmaira: Hodge?
0872 julienotrobin: maybe Julie Hayes is a lesbian
0873 beth: oooh yes please
0874 julienotrobin: though she was only in the one issue, but i would like a lesbian physicist
0875 gerry: Julie&Jade
0876 julienotrobin: yes i like that
0877 caseyballvins: i'm liking the idea of julie/jade
0878 susan: isn't julie a lot younger than her
0879 francy: hmmm i will have to reread for this
0880 macey: i'm just up with everything being gay forever.
0881 beth: have hodge or daramount had male love interests though??
0882 upguntha: Jade's mom with the flannel?
0883 beth: yes macey i concur
0884 francy: since he made it sound like the signs were pretty out there since he was surprised none
0885 francy: of us noticed
0886 beth: nobody's straight
0887 veronica: well jade is married to ike in the future, but that doesn't mean she isn't bisexual.
0888 veronica: yeah.
0889 ashley entered the room
0890 beth: everyone in it is queer that's why they're chosen
0891 abetterfuture: Is jade confirmed to be married?
0892 darrrrkvengeance: for what it's worth, "WOW-MO," rotated 180 degrees, is "Ow, Mom!"
0893 veronica: yeah i think she mentions it.
0894 beth: really??
0895 susan: i don't think so?
0896 macey: bi/pan people exist too. if people in this comic look straight theyre probably not
0897 gerry: no, I don't think so
0898 darrrrkvengeance: maybe it's an Irina reference! 
0899 upguntha: Nick refused to answer that one
0900 macey: no i don't think so? hmmm.
0901 abetterfuture: Which issue?
0902 macey: BUT
0903 veronica: does she not? weird selective memory. i'd have to go get my trades. hold on.
0904 francy: i think it's implied that she has something with ike but it isn't said what
0905 macey: so if future jade IS married then it was a good way to hide it
0906 haley: thats so good
0907 susan: she could also be married and have kept her name
0908 macey: she gets sentimental when jade talks ike in 10, but no confirmation
0909 abetterfuture: She chuckles when her past self mentions Ike.
0910 macey: yeah susan's also right
0911 beth: right
0912 susan: but they never reference her being married
0913 upguntha: Jike
0914 francy: yeah
0915 abetterfuture: That's the only hint.
0916 macey: also she's DR ellsworth, no miss/mrs so that hid it too
0917 veronica: maybe that's it, just my insane imagination. sorry for the misleading.
0918 macey: nah veronica it's okay everybody does that w/ this comic at least once i think lmao
0919 francy: yeah it's really easy to mix up details
0920 veronica: lol this comic.
0921 gerry: shipping goggles 
0922 julienotrobin: poor veronica gets locked up forever
0923 guest-137675 changed nickname to ashley
 
0924 francy: you have to like constantly reread it to remember everything and even then
0925 francy: you forget stuff
0926 veronica: i actually don't ship it as much as i like thought it was mentioned.
0927 veronica: now i'm going to go look for why i thought that.
0928 veronica: (i'm totally jade/casey so. yeah me.)
0929 francy: older jade talks about ike rather fondly so that's
0930 francy: probably why
0931 julienotrobin: i love jade/casey
0932 francy: like present jade was all UGH IKE and older jade was like
0933 francy: ha ha 
0934 macey: tbh the first arc was really hunter/hisao and jade/casey. it really was.
0935 macey: whenever i reread i end up in shock neither happened
0936 julienotrobin: it was
0937 francy: IT SERIOUSLY WAS
0938 darrrrkvengeance: i love Jader Paders; i'm on the fence about Casey
0939 gerry: casey/irina 
0940 veronica: YES FIRST ARC YES.
0941 beth: casey/irina/zoe 
0942 francy: what beth said
0943 julienotrobin: beth i like how you think
0944 beth: and vanessa/irina 
0945 beth: thank you
0946 caseyballvins: OH YEAH VANESSA
0947 macey: i'm generally up for a big glories/truants ot12 is solves every shipping problem
0948 caseyballvins: actually i totally ship vanessa/irina
0949 beth: that works for me really
0950 gerry: well... OT10
0951 francy: true macey
0952 francy: no ot12
0953 macey: vanessa and irina's relationship is really important. really. important.
0954 beth: vanessa/irina would be so beautiful though
0955 beth: so so so important
0956 haley: yes agreed
0957 macey: we can include jun and make it an ot11! close!
0958 beth: i would be so here for bi/pan akiko
0959 philmaira: this is getting weird
0960 francy: i refuse to leave out the dead people ok
0961 gerry: lol
0962 macey: yeah once nick and joe left we went all shipping
0963 francy: ot13
0964 beth: the important things
0965 francy: at least it's not crying
0966 beth: im trying to forget i have something to cry over
0967 julienotrobin: shhh....don't cry
0968 macey: i always headcanoned akiko was just into anybody she thought could be there for her so.
0969 macey: queer as heck. yeah.
0970 caseyballvins: crying, what crying? what issue 33?
0971 beth: awwww yes
0972 beth: as i remember this issue ended w guillaume and hisao boxing and then making out
0973 beth: that's what happened ok
0974 macey: yes, kissboxing
0975 macey: a variant of kickboxing
0976 gerry: the fun variant
0977 philmaira: lol
0978 francy: yes that is definitely what happened
0979 beth: such a beautiful sport
0980 veronica: that's the best end.
0981 veronica: that's what happened.
0982 caseyballvins: such a happy moment
0983 gerry: fanfiction time!
0984 susan: has anyone actually theorized anything about this issue tonight
0985 beth: the looks on their faces were glorious
0986 julienotrobin: fanfiction!
0987 darrrrkvengeance: i actually had to look up "shipping" on urban dictionary. i'm so uncool
0988 beth: theirs the "who did hisao turn in" stuff
0989 beth: *theres
0990 beth: oh god
0991 haley: well not theorized but i was wondering if jun was useful to the academy or not
0992 haley: like with the birthday thing
0993 julienotrobin: who is "she"?
0994 philmaira: I arrived sorta late. What were the theories on who Hisao gave up to Hodge?
0995 macey: matt thinks it's miss richmond
0996 macey: my first thought was zoe
0997 upguntha: Zoe i think
0998 beth: i think zoe
0999 francy: yeah most of us thought zoe
1000 beth: but im biased
1001 haley: zoe makes sense
1002 gerry: same here
1003 susan: what if it's casey or something
1004 upguntha: but it might be a new character
1005 darrrrkvengeance: i thought Zoe at the time, but i see the argument for Richmod
1006 caseyballvins: zoe would make sense
1007 darrrrkvengeance: *Richmond
1008 beth: i mean casey turned in herself really
1009 francy: i'm also biased and i cling to any tiny mention of zoe but
1010 susan: i don't even think that i just threw it out there
1011 francy: yeah
1012 caseyballvins: well casey was sent by... herself so
1013 beth: yeah i can see richmond too though
1014 macey: maybe it's clarkson? did hisao know clarkson? i bet he couldve
1015 susan: yea that's what i'd meant
1016 beth: ooh ok
1017 upguntha: weird question
1018 francy: clarkson knew everyone
1019 darrrrkvengeance: like, in arranging the car crash?
1020 beth: she really did
1021 macey: this wouldve been right before david was born.....
1022 upguntha: is Richmond black or brown
1023 philmaira: which car crash? Clarckson's or Jade's mom?
1024 julienotrobin: clarkson
1025 darrrrkvengeance: i figured she was south-Asian Indian
1026 macey: well neither could work, this was six months ago and the crash was a year ago, right...?
1027 francy: yeah
1028 julienotrobin: also, what force was it that switched hisao and jun?
1029 julienotrobin: what was that thing?
1030 philmaira: the cylinder
1031 abetterfuture: Sidebar
1032 darrrrkvengeance: the spencer
1033 gerry: I think it was hunter placing everyone where they should have been
1034 francy: i love the cover
1035 beth: ughhh it was so great
1036 beth: also their shorts seemed a lil too short
1037 gerry: so it would have been hisao who should have died
1038 caseyballvins: beautiful cover
1039 francy: ohhh yeah since he should have been the one to go to the school in the first place?
1040 macey: rodin always draws short shorts
1041 tori: oh gosh, that makes so much sense all the sudden
1042 beth: it's wonderful
1043 macey: did you see fortunato's shorts on 25's cover. jeez.
1044 upguntha: so I'm missreading the whole coloring thing
1045 julienotrobin left the room
1046 beth: the zoe cover 
1047 julienotrobin entered the room
1048 guest-137834 changed nickname to julienotrobin
 
1049 caseyballvins: just gonna fan myself a little
1050 francy: bless that cover
1051 tori: i am no joke gonna admit rodin's covers made me refer to tuna as booty shorts guy
1052 macey: tbh woodrun would have been way better if everyone had short shorts.
1053 philmaira: color scheme?
1054 tori: for the longest time and that's sort of embarrassing
1055 deathbyvanessa entered the room
1056 darrrrkvengeance: Mss Richmond could certainly be African, however
1057 jayjay left the room
1058 guest-137843 changed nickname to deathbyvanessa
 
1059 abetterfuture: Night, you guys!
1060 susan: i think vanessa and her mom are Ambiguourly Black
1061 francy: niiight
1062 beth: goodnight!
1063 upguntha: that;s whay asked about Vanessa's race and Nick said it was complicated
1064 caseyballvins: night 
1065 philmaira: night
1066 gerry: yeah, she seems closer to African features than Indian
1067 tori: night
1068 macey: kind of hoping 35 is all tuna in booty shorts now
1069 susan: *ambiguously
1070 macey: night!
1071 upguntha: nighrt
1072 philmaira: he said she was english
1073 gerry: g'night
1074 beth: they should have booty short covers for all characters
1075 macey: english but it's "complicated" yeah
1076 beth: david wearing booty shorts
1077 upguntha: yup
1078 julienotrobin left the room
1079 macey: god, poor david needs MORE clothing! the child must be so cold!
1080 macey: knit that boy a sweater
1081 guest-137876 entered the room
1082 upguntha: so i was thinking thar Richmond might not be her bio mom
1083 abetterfuture left the room
1084 caseyballvins: Casey really needs to make sure her son has a proper shirt
1085 tori: a nice large one for all three of him
1086 caseyballvins: definitely not up to uniform code
1087 darrrrkvengeance: a shirt with 6 arm holes
1088 tori: lack of the fashion police at mg is becoming a problem
1089 darrrrkvengeance: ah, tori beat me to it
1090 beth: he could have a snuggie
1091 philmaira: I think we mentioned that last time and that's when Nick said "it's complicated"
1092 guest-137876 left the room
1093 macey: imagining mg characters in snuggies is. a thing.
1094 caseyballvins: yes
1095 caseyballvins: i want that
1096 beth: i support this
1097 tori: lame, flower snuggies that all match
1098 caseyballvins: ike's is made of silk
1099 beth: ian has a hogwarts robe snuggie
1100 macey: ian thinks it's GREAT thank you very much guillaume. stop laughing at him
1101 caseyballvins: yes
1102 macey: stop giving him a noogie it's just a snuggie oh my god
1103 francy: an au where everything is exactly the same except everyone wears snuggies 24/7
1104 philmaira: who's the next issue focused on?
1105 susan: jade
1106 darrrrkvengeance: Jader Paders!
1107 macey: next issue is jade!
1108 philmaira: bought time
1109 deathbyvanessa: i heart future jade
1110 upguntha: Jadeeeeeeeee
1111 tori: wait, then tuna, ian, ?
1112 deathbyvanessa: now jade is growing on me too
1113 gerry: gothic jade
1114 beth: akiko!
1115 beth: after ian
1116 gerry: yey!
1117 tori: thank you
1118 francy: i just want pamela issue
1119 beth: i'm so excited for those three issues
1120 beth: pamela or nine
1121 darrrrkvengeance: oh, i thought Desafortunato was after Jader Paders
1122 runninglate left the room
1123 macey: he is dv!
1124 macey: it's jade-tuna-ian-akiko
1125 francy: wait crap just remembered that he said next issue is gonna be soul crushing too
1126 darrrrkvengeance: ah, excellent!
1127 darrrrkvengeance: best arc ever
1128 macey: nick said we're dealing with how the truants basically killed hisao next time
1129 macey: ha...hahahaha (
1130 tori: gosh
1131 beth: 
1132 francy: ha............
1133 beth: oh go d
1134 susan: fuck this book
1135 deathbyvanessa: those silly truants
1136 beth: i didnt actually even think about that oh no
1137 upguntha: it's Tuna boy due to chat demands
1138 francy: oh god i'm sad
1139 beth: fuck
1140 macey: THAT'S OUR TRUANTS [LAUGH TRACK
1141 philmaira: wait wat?
1142 darrrrkvengeance: is Abraham still locked up, btw?
1143 deathbyvanessa: yeah, the whole hisao is gone thing, im a little numb
1144 philmaira: when did he say the Truants killed Hisao?
1145 deathbyvanessa: i think he was my fav?
1146 gerry: no, pretty sure he scaped
1147 francy: well it's the truants fault that he died, basically
1148 beth: that's our truants should be a sitcom
1149 beth: abraham is mia i believe
1150 deathbyvanessa: i would watch that
1151 macey: phil
1152 tori: Living life with Irina
1153 macey: dv
1154 gerry: Guillame vs Irina
1155 gerry: O.O
1156 francy: oh man
1157 upguntha: Abraham dissaperaed
1158 macey: i feel like irina's current life with super nice mr. n would make a fairly normal sitcom
1159 susan: i've been watiting for guillaume v irina
1160 susan: but this is not what i wanted
1161 tori: i don't think anyone wanted hiaso to go
1162 tori: and i had so much hope with that blue light till nick confirmed it
1163 francy: remember when we were so sad at hisao crying over jun's dead body
1164 francy: and how heartbroken we were
1165 francy: ha
1166 francy: hahahaha
1167 tori: haha remember
1168 caseyballvins: hahaha
1169 deathbyvanessa: im interested in jun, now that hes not brainwashed, but still hisao...
1170 caseyballvins: we were such sweet summer children
1171 macey: okay tbh really hoping 35 is just a series of scenes of fortunato doing normal things
1172 susan: i think i'm gonna go, bye
1173 susan left the room
1174 tori: bye susan
1175 francy: bye bye!
1176 philmaira: cya
1177 deathbyvanessa: bye
1178 macey: eating oatmeal, napping, doing his daily prayers, taking a shower
1179 macey: SUSAN GOODBYE SLEEP WELL
1180 darrrrkvengeance: bye susan
1181 beth: awww tuna
1182 tori: oh yes, i think you need more prayers in there
1183 caseyballvins: that would be such a good issue
1184 gerry: g'night susan
1185 gerry: oh, the shower scene would be nice
1186 tori: oh gosh, someone was going to say it
1187 francy: can the issue just be a very long shower scene we don't really
1188 francy: need the rest
1189 macey: fortunato is based off a model. shower scene would be actual purposeful fanservice
1190 darrrrkvengeance: just having an ordinary day, whilst people are killed all around him.
1191 philmaira: Back track a bit, Nick said he was extremely surprised we didn't pick up on something..
1192 beth: that sounds v nice
1193 francy: i think it was referring to lesbians
1194 beth: im hoping it was lesbians
1195 francy: or something queer related
1196 macey: we were saying we wanted lesbians and nick said it then
1197 francy: hopefully
1198 philmaira: The topics were either homosexuality or character deaths
1199 tori: what a mix
1200 haley: but then he said something about the deaths as a different thought
1201 francy: yeah let's go with lesbians
1202 haley: so i'm p sure its lesbains
1203 deathbyvanessa: yeah we got both this issue
1204 macey: i feel tuna would keep a straight face while people were dying around him yeah
1205 philmaira: basically the same 2 that we always talk about
1206 beth: as long as it isnt dead lesbians
1207 haley: lesbians
1208 gerry: maybe hannah and the other girl on the av club are a couple
1209 macey: oh, someone has gotten stabbed in the hall. hm. better do my lunchtime prayer
1210 beth: a crying broken tuna would be so awful
1211 macey: hannah/esi would be......really cute........
1212 upguntha: i thought it was pants
1213 beth: really really cute
1214 caseyballvins: hannah/esi would be soooo cute
1215 deathbyvanessa: hodge strikes me as a possible lesbian
1216 francy: i prefer the lesbians
1217 francy: yeah i was thinking that
1218 macey: hey, don't talk about sad tuna. that's my least favorite thought.
1219 macey: hodge has always been queer as hell in my head ngl
1220 darrrrkvengeance: hodge and casey/clarkson
1221 upguntha: lesbians in pants
1222 francy: same
1223 beth: i hc like every character as queer tho so
1224 francy: ... same
1225 beth: like if zoe wasnt in love with sarah then idek anymore
1226 haley: oh definitely
1227 macey: she won't care who you are if you're hot and also if she can use you for her nefarious plan
1228 upguntha: maybe it's Daramount
1229 beth: she can use me i m ean
1230 philmaira: You think Hunter is the only hedero character? Ike's just been faking it?
1231 gerry: that totally reminded me of Irina
1232 deathbyvanessa: nothing says i love you like gutting a girl
1233 beth: daramount having just like a nice stable relationship with some lady this whole time
1234 beth: i would dig that
1235 beth: ike is so overcompensating pls
1236 beth: ike/guillaume
1237 francy: otp
1238 macey: ike literally canonly thinks guillaume is hot. that's canon this issue.
1239 tori: otp
1240 francy: i'm not gonna lie during that scene i was like "i can ship this"
1241 beth: what a wonderful world
1242 deathbyvanessa: true and he used to make out with boys
1243 darrrrkvengeance: well, guillaume IS hot
1244 beth: they would have such good snarky comments
1245 beth: and then make outs
1246 haley: ike/everyone
1247 francy: ^
1248 beth: ike/everyone otp always
1249 macey: nick said once they purposefully made guillaume and fortunato super hot
1250 beth: hhhhhhhh
1251 francy: well that plan worked
1252 beth: yes
1253 tori: i think it was 'beautiful men' to quote
1254 caseyballvins: yup that worked
1255 gerry: ... and there was nothing left for Ian
1256 beth: ian's qt tho
1257 macey: guillaume and tuna are shining rays of gorgeousness and ian is
1258 macey: ian is a fulgy lump.
1259 francy: dkgjdsG
1260 tori: poor boy
1261 darrrrkvengeance: poor ian
1262 francy: fugly lump omfg
1263 darrrrkvengeance: (he prolly has bad teeth tho)
1264 francy: somewhere out there vicky is crying
1265 beth: growing up in that camp mustve been so rough
1266 macey: we need an issue of the truant boys hanging out
1267 beth: w guillaume tuna and hisao like
1268 macey: people oogling at guillaume and tuna while ian slowly slithers behind them, alone
1269 caseyballvins: YES
1270 beth: yes
1271 tori: perfect
1272 haley: ah even the hotness is kind of sad now
1273 macey: ian's taller than both of them though which is HILARIOUS
1274 macey: he's a literal beanpole
1275 darrrrkvengeance: Ian will end up with Casey
1276 tori: just sort of stumbling through life
1277 beth: nooooo
1278 francy: ian can go with hunter
1279 francy: they can romance each other with references
1280 caseyballvins: talking to my friend about guillaume/ike and she said they would just piss each other off
1281 caseyballvins: um angry sex duh
1282 darrrrkvengeance: it works, though, cause Casey is a top and Ian's a botto
1283 darrrrkvengeance: m
1284 beth: exactly
1285 beth: it would be such good hatesex
1286 francy: YES
1287 caseyballvins: such good hatesex
1288 francy: on bunk beds
1289 beth: but also just like yea youre way hot why not sex
1290 beth: poor hunter and jun
1291 francy: ike would do it on their beds just to be a dick
1292 beth: omgf
1293 macey: the general group of boys in that dorm now is the WORST combination
1294 beth: i love it
1295 caseyballvins: it's going to be great
1296 francy: i think you mean best
1297 deathbyvanessa: yeah, they all sorta hate each other
1298 darrrrkvengeance: well, it depends on how you consider any dormroom with my gf, Pamela
1299 beth: so much testosterone in so litle space
1300 macey: http
1301 tori: i thought it was bad enough in the preview but man, now
1302 gerry: I wonder where's vanessa staying
1303 deathbyvanessa: if vanessa is going in with jade and casey, thats a pretty good combo
1304 macey: vanessa is staying with the glory girls i think- she used to be roomies w/ pam so
1305 haley: hes so lanky wow
1306 beth: i am very much fond of vanessa rooming w jade and casey
1307 macey: btw guillaume is about the same height as hisao who is/was 5'11"
1308 macey: ian is taller than guillaume. ian may be 6+ feet.
1309 beth: jesus ian
1310 gerry: pamela's new playmate
1311 philmaira: anyone go to the panel at the NYCC?
1312 deathbyvanessa: that would be fantastic, ian and pamela
1313 francy: that would end with ian dying
1314 deathbyvanessa: i know
1315 darrrrkvengeance: but he would LOVE it
1316 philmaira: or at least know what was discussed?
1317 beth: maybe not dead just missing some limbs
1318 tori: there's a link in the study hall
1319 deathbyvanessa: unfortunately did not go
1320 darrrrkvengeance: didn't upguntha go?
1321 upguntha left the room
1322 upguntha entered the room
1323 guest-138233 changed nickname to upguntha
 
1324 deathbyvanessa: i wonder if nick was able to evade every question?
1325 tori: to some info on what was said though matt was going to say something
1326 upguntha: yeah my chat crashed
1327 tori: that he seemed to be asking joe if he could share but i don't know if he did
1328 haley: yeah i was waiting on that but he didnt say anything
1329 macey: ok on the other end of the height spectrum
1330 macey: http
1331 upguntha: there were 2 questions he semi evaded
1332 caseyballvins: so tiny
1333 caseyballvins: cause she's probably in heels too
1334 darrrrkvengeance: OT
1335 deathbyvanessa: any good reveals?
1336 gerry: Tuny people are the best
1337 gerry: Tiny
1338 upguntha: just Tuna is issue 35
1339 beth: little baby akiko is the greatest
1340 upguntha: i hope Matt posts the video up
1341 macey: i think akiko's like a foot shorter than ian
1342 beth: height! difference!!
1343 caseyballvins: cuuuute
1344 beth: even cuter is the fact that he follows her around everywhere awww
1345 beth: those kids
1346 haley: so cute yesss
1347 tori: terribly cute
1348 caseyballvins: and they're in the av club together
1349 macey: terribly cute until you remember akiko is comatose and ian is stuck in a cell
1350 beth: i want so much more of that
1351 gerry: she follow tuna, Ian follows her, nobody follows Iarn...
1352 beth: thanks macey (
1353 tori: thanks for reminding me macey
1354 caseyballvins: hahahahaha thanks macey
1355 tori: wouldn't want to forget those details
1356 beth: we can always count on you
1357 macey: ten bucks ian is gonna make a deal with hodge or somebody else to help akiko
1358 beth: she'd get so mad
1359 deathbyvanessa: maybe hannah follows ian?
1360 caseyballvins: i agree with you macey
1361 beth: and slap him but then like they'd just hug
1362 darrrrkvengeance: she won't even remember who he is
1363 tori: the worst part is what would ian have to offer, save for possible secrets
1364 beth: dont say that no
1365 francy: omg no
1366 francy: don't say that what if it happens
1367 tori: but she might already know most of the important stuff possibly
1368 gerry: he'll give up the av club
1369 beth: uh oh
1370 caseyballvins: oh man but he would
1371 darrrrkvengeance: he'd sell out desafortunato
1372 gerry: and then when she finds out
1373 macey: ha, i'm sure ian hates tuna right now for not stopping akiko from touching david
1374 macey: he'd sell fortunato out in a heartbeat
1375 caseyballvins: he definitely does hate him
1376 caseyballvins: ian's so angry
1377 beth: absolutely
1378 upguntha: alright g'night
1379 tori: okay guys I think I'm gonna leave now, but it was fun crying and talking with you guys
1380 beth: goodnight!
1381 francy: niiight!
1382 caseyballvins: and he'll definitely blame tuna for hisao as well just cause
1383 caseyballvins: night!
1384 gerry: g'night
1385 darrrrkvengeance: nite tori!
1386 macey: night tori!
1387 upguntha left the room
1388 deathbyvanessa: bye
1389 tori left the room
1390 macey: ian would blame both tuna and irina, i think. maybe guillaume
1391 macey: but he'd feel bad for guillaume after hisao
1392 francy: yeah
1393 caseyballvins: he'll probably try and get guillaume to join him
1394 beth: i just want to give guillaume a hug so badly
1395 macey: he'd blame fortunato for akiko but irina too for the general shit.
1396 deathbyvanessa: do we know if guillaume knew the entire plan, did he KNOW jun was to be killed
1397 francy: god i just do not want to see guillaume's reaction
1398 deathbyvanessa: it seemed like he did
1399 gerry: I'm thinking Vanessa is the only thing holding toguether the Truants rightnow
1400 gerry: ot at least trying to
1401 macey: guillaume seemed to know at least most of it. he knew irina wanted to kill ike
1402 macey: fortunato knew for longer and possibly knows more than he does, though
1403 veronica left the room
1404 darrrrkvengeance: though who knows how much they "know" is really what Abraham is feeding them?
1405 macey: after all, fortunato's quiet enough that he'd seem more trustworthy........or is he
1406 gerry: oh, no another hodge
1407 deathbyvanessa: yeah he's definitely shady
1408 francy: the less floral hodge
1409 macey: nick's flat out said fortunato is shady!
1410 caseyballvins: booty short hodge
1411 deathbyvanessa: maybe tuna's snuggie is floral?
1412 beth: oh no
1413 darrrrkvengeance: what's clear from this issue is how much Hodge hates Abraham
1414 macey: hodge as a fish
1415 darrrrkvengeance: the way she buckles at the "children of Abraham" comment
1416 macey: he's hodge's prodigy, that's why daramount was curious about him w/ the truants
1417 caseyballvins: ooooh yes
1418 deathbyvanessa: that makes sense
1419 macey: tbh i think it's a little creepy too i agree w/ hodge lmao
1420 deathbyvanessa: and he passed whatever test nine gave him after his eyes were opened
1421 beth: yeaaa like it's not the greatest of methods
1422 beth: training little infants to kill
1423 philmaira: Children of Abaham? That gives me an idea. To the Old Testament!
1424 darrrrkvengeance: not for nothing, Hodge DOES know how to dress.
1425 darrrrkvengeance: 
1426 ashley left the room
1427 philmaira: Or Torah, depending on religion
1428 darrrrkvengeance: well, if they're not Ike, they're Ishmael
1429 fredfredkonfred left the room
1430 francy: okay i am heading out
1431 francy: good night guys
1432 beth: night!
1433 darrrrkvengeance: night!
1434 gerry: g'night
1435 francy: this was such a great issue with no one dying at all
1436 deathbyvanessa: ZOE
1437 darrrrkvengeance: lol
1438 beth: yes exactly
1439 beth: that's the spirit
1440 macey: night francy!
1441 francy left the room
1442 deathbyvanessa: night
1443 darrrrkvengeance: Zoe needs her own comic
1444 caseyballvins: yes
1445 darrrrkvengeance: 4 serious
1446 deathbyvanessa: seconded
1447 beth: yes yes yes
1448 macey: hodge adventures
1449 macey: in every issue she wears a new outfit
1450 gerry: and "helps" a new kid
1451 caseyballvins: ike adventure
1452 macey: the recurring cast is the rest of the mga staff
1453 caseyballvins: every issue a new book
1454 alison left the room
1455 macey: ike's comic is just him doing commentary on books
1456 macey: ike reading twilight
1457 beth: ike&zoe team up of my dreams
1458 beth: where they just both are on top bunks
1459 haley: being snarky
1460 beth: reading and rolling their eyes at everyone else
1461 gerry: you're missing guillaume
1462 beth: yes guillaume can join too
1463 caseyballvins: him too
1464 beth: ot3
1465 darrrrkvengeance: Zoe and Pamela and Misfit (after her rights are liberated from DC)
1466 macey: snark ot3
1467 beth: zoe would just kill pamela
1468 darrrrkvengeance: you can't kill Pamela. the universe could not exist w/out a Pamela
1469 macey: pamela is the constant
1470 deathbyvanessa: i wonder if pamela started out like casey?
1471 beth: ooooh
1472 macey: i wanna see pamela meeting everyone. pamela with vanessa. pamela with hodge. pamela w/ tuna
1473 darrrrkvengeance: PAMELA w/IKE
1474 philmaira: I'm trying to see if the 'Children of Abraham comment has anything to do with
1475 caseyballvins: i wonder how important pamela is going to turn out in the end
1476 philmaira: the 12 tribes of Israel?
1477 gerry: I want to see Pamela's group
1478 deathbyvanessa: Pamela for headmaster!
1479 macey: nick said he had plans for pamela down the road and liking her would pay off
1480 beth: excellent
1481 darrrrkvengeance: liking her pays off already.
1482 beth: at least that's one character
1483 macey: i really hope we see her in 34
1484 gerry: She'll be showing her roomies her new ear
1485 beth: polishing her woodrun trophy
1486 deathbyvanessa: did she keep the ear?
1487 darrrrkvengeance: OT
1488 deathbyvanessa: i hate politics
1489 darrrrkvengeance: some of our livelihoods depend on getting paid for our work
1490 deathbyvanessa: absoluet;y true
1491 macey: POLITICS [THROWS THINGS
1492 caseyballvins: CANADA
1493 deathbyvanessa: yes CANADA!
1494 beth: sighs
1495 darrrrkvengeance: they should all die in a fire. but AFTER they pay us for our work.
1496 caseyballvins: yeah... we're not great though so
1497 caseyballvins: we've got tons of issues too don't worry
1498 philmaira: anyone outside the US in this chat?
1499 macey: you know on the topic of hisao and the truants-
1500 gerry: Mexico
1501 macey: i'm curious to know what irina will think when she finds out
1502 caseyballvins: I'm from canada 
1503 beth: im really curious about that
1504 caseyballvins: I feel like irina will try to blame the school
1505 darrrrkvengeance: hence the hockey!
1506 haley: she'll be pissed
1507 beth: how will she find out though? since she's on her lonesome
1508 caseyballvins: and be upset about losing an ally
1509 beth: they're all separate
1510 gerry: I'm curious to know if she can even comunicate with the others
1511 beth: which makes it worse
1512 deathbyvanessa: she will, because for as crazy and fucked up as she is, she really did seem to care for hi
1513 deathbyvanessa: sao
1514 macey: i doubt the academy will let her see anyone who isn't staff
1515 beth: like presumably vanessa and guillaume can chat
1516 gerry: yeah, she was really happy to see him
1517 gerry: probably guilt
1518 caseyballvins: i'm sure they'll find a way to let irina know
1519 macey: irina is the type who would try to keep herself together a look like a strong leader
1520 beth: does the staff know??
1521 darrrrkvengeance: does anyone besides Guillaume know
1522 macey: she'd blame the academy
1523 macey: i think guillaume was the first one jun told
1524 gerry: well, I'm pretty sure none of the truants are exactly happy with her
1525 gerry: except maybe tuna
1526 beth: and idk if jun is planning on telling many people for safety reasons
1527 caseyballvins: maybe hunter and guillaume will become friends now?
1528 macey: fortunato is too nice to hate anybody. he probably likes everyone.
1529 deathbyvanessa: yeah, are they even a unit anymore?
1530 deathbyvanessa: will they aways be?
1531 macey: i feel like we're seeing the slow crumble of the truants right now
1532 beth: i know and it's so painful
1533 beth: i think vanessa is really the key link
1534 deathbyvanessa: tuna and pamea?
1535 darrrrkvengeance: well, it's gotta come to a head soon
1536 macey: vanessa didn't like irina's plan in the first place. ian will blame tuna and irina for akik
1537 gerry: Vanessa is probably trying to keep them as a group
1538 darrrrkvengeance: and others than he's Hisao
1539 macey: guillaume is definetely gonna be rethinking his place now that hisao is gone
1540 darrrrkvengeance: *that
1541 macey: irina is too stubborn to move from her place
1542 gerry: but she's not gonna be there forever
1543 gerry: 
1544 macey: YEAH vanessa would try to keep them together but she's gonna be gone, fairly soon
1545 macey: so there's that
1546 philmaira left the room
1547 caseyballvins: vanessa 
1548 deathbyvanessa: yeah, i think vanessa will take akiko, ian and guillame to casey and co
1549 macey: akiko was also sort of a "heart" morally and she's COMATOSE
1550 beth: so the moral of the story is casey/irina will solve all problems
1551 macey: fortunato seems like a good sweet boy, but all signs also point to him being loyal to irina
1552 macey: so who knows where he's at
1553 deathbyvanessa: or ruin everybody's lives....
1554 beth: bc vanessa and casey will be bff (hopefully)
1555 beth: ian and akiko are/were in av club so theyre connected to hunter
1556 deathbyvanessa: i really hope they become besties
1557 caseyballvins: vanessa/casey is something i could get behind to
1558 caseyballvins: *too
1559 macey: hunter and ian hit it off well for a bit. i think hunter'll try to be his friend when he
1560 beth: and if guillaume becomes disillusioned and then buds w ike and hunter
1561 macey: gets out
1562 macey: he'd be a little wary but he'd also feel bad if he heard about akiko.....
1563 beth: yea i can see that
1564 beth: like they would be lunch buddies at least
1565 gerry: does Hodge knows that Hisao is dead?
1566 macey: plus i feel like the rest of the av club would want to have ian back
1567 darrrrkvengeance: why would Ike bond w Guillaume?
1568 deathbyvanessa: she seems to know everything
1569 beth: bc we need our ike/guillaume snark otp
1570 macey: gerry who knows its HODGE
1571 gerry: I just realized her "and some of them we might have lost forever" sounds a lot more intere
1572 deathbyvanessa: which brings me to a theory of the files she has on the students
1573 macey: im surprised guillaume didnt seem to hate ike immediately
1574 gerry: interesting
1575 deathbyvanessa: she says it has everything they're going to do
1576 deathbyvanessa: maybe because the students started the whole thing, they are the senior staff
1577 caseyballvins: guillaume apperciated his snark probably
1578 darrrrkvengeance: hey, has anyone read Dune? i'm like 20 pages in. which is nothing.
1579 deathbyvanessa: haven't read it
1580 macey: are we talking truant/glory interactions now because i NEED THIS will ALL MY BEING
1581 darrrrkvengeance: but from what i gatther, the theme of transcending death is a core concern
1582 beth: truant/glory interaction is everything
1583 caseyballvins: I WANT THEM TO MEET CASEY ALREADY
1584 beth: SRSLY
1585 macey: I KNOOW
1586 macey: casey with vanessa. casey with IAN.
1587 deathbyvanessa: i think hunter and akiko would be a good pairing
1588 gerry: I want to see Casey and Irina clash
1589 beth: casey missed out on the party she needs to interact w them already
1590 caseyballvins: Casey with tuna, it would be great
1591 macey: hunter and akiko in the same room would be a cute explosion
1592 caseyballvins: so cute
1593 beth: casey/vanessa/irina i neeeed
1594 deathbyvanessa: right?
1595 beth: casey and guillaume too
1596 macey: ian would be jealous though
1597 macey: wait. ian/akiko/hunter ot3. comics ot3
1598 beth: yes yes yes
1599 gerry: and the Ike would be like "oh, come on!"
1600 beth: i was just going to say that macey
1601 beth: like yes
1602 caseyballvins: casey walks into the room issue 50 finally meeting the truants, season ends
1603 beth: she's all of their mothers
1604 macey: FUCK
1605 deathbyvanessa: prolly
1606 caseyballvins: haha probably
1607 darrrrkvengeance: lol
1608 macey: waiting to see what time travely chaos jade and fortunato praying together would cause
1609 caseyballvins: YES
1610 beth: ooooh
1611 deathbyvanessa: yeah, future jade needs to come to the past and kick some ass, in heels of course
1612 macey: im just waiting for jade and tuna to get assigned as partners in theology and hit it off
1613 darrrrkvengeance: speaking of mothers, my best friend's wife is being induced today.
1614 macey: or somethin
1615 darrrrkvengeance: for those of you who pray, perhaps you could spare a thought for her
1616 macey: OH MAN DV I HOPE IT GOES WELL
1617 caseyballvins: yikes, i hope that goes well!
1618 deathbyvanessa: yeah, happy birthing
1619 gerry: good luck to her and the baby
1620 macey: you know who i need to have proper conversation too? ike and irina
1621 beth: absolutely, thinking happy thoughts!
1622 beth: oh boy
1623 gerry: yeah, no guns involved
1624 beth: a nice friendly chat
1625 caseyballvins: ike doesn't even realize who irina is, just tries to flirt with her
1626 deathbyvanessa: maybe they could kill the parents they haven't yet
1627 darrrrkvengeance: thanks, guys! 
1628 macey: irina probably needs vanessa and tuna to hold her back from killing him right there
1629 caseyballvins: YES
1630 macey: "how DARE this MONSTER speak to me in such a VILE tone. i must DESTROY HIM"
1631 gerry: they keep her rifle under lock
1632 deathbyvanessa: yeah, if she believes he's the headmaster a.k.a. "the man who raped your whore mother" she
1633 deathbyvanessa: will come for him
1634 macey: vanessa and tuna giving guillaume and ian irina's rifle to hide
1635 macey: them desperately running around the school w/ it
1636 deathbyvanessa: that would just upset her
1637 beth: ofmg
1638 deathbyvanessa: that rifle is prolly her best friend
1639 gerry: Ian would be wetting his pants
1640 caseyballvins: and jade just starts yelling about how that girl tried to kill them
1641 macey: her rifles name is snowflake jr
1642 gerry: she calles it Snowflake
1643 deathbyvanessa: that is gold
1644 beth: this is beautiful
1645 gerry: ninja'd
1646 deathbyvanessa: a little pee just came out, im laughing so hard
1647 macey: my single favorite thing about irina is that she keeps saying I AM NOT A CHILD ANY LONGER
1648 macey: and yet when she's caught in 29 she basically throws a tantrum
1649 caseyballvins: oh irina
1650 macey: and in 30 she literally shoves food into her mouth w/ her hands
1651 deathbyvanessa: yeah, irina's got a journey ahead of her. shes becoming a young lady
1652 beth: that's really what the special attention is for
1653 beth: charm school
1654 deathbyvanessa: yep, she offed her mom before she could give her the talk
1655 macey: irina literally has no manners. get somebody to tutor her
1656 beth: someone having to teach her please and thank you
1657 darrrrkvengeance: poor Irina. she's basically a child soldier
1658 deathbyvanessa: maybe mr. n will?
1659 gerry: everyone's basicaly a child soldier at that school
1660 deathbyvanessa: what if next we see irina she's all domesticated
1661 macey: mr. n making a chart showing irina normal manners
1662 macey: like "no elbows on the table" or "please dont stab me w/ a fork again seriously"
1663 darrrrkvengeance: true, gerry. but not all of them had to kill their mom
1664 gerry: Irina walking with books over her head
1665 haley: teaching her "we don't greet people by pointing guns at them"
1666 deathbyvanessa: right fork manners, its a big deal
1667 gerry: we don't use the fork to stab people
1668 macey: the fork is for EATING, irina
1669 macey: the fork is not a weapon
1670 caseyballvins: NOT killing
1671 deathbyvanessa: "shooting someone in the back is unpolite, shoot them in the face"
1672 darrrrkvengeance: certainly not the SALAD ford
1673 darrrrkvengeance: fork
1674 caseyballvins: Irina, students are our friends, not to be killed
1675 macey: (psst the chat ends in 10 min, PREPARE)
1676 deathbyvanessa: i object
1677 caseyballvins: it has been a wonderful chat given the circumstances
1678 macey: irina needs some pointers from tuna aka mr. polite
1679 beth: it really has
1680 darrrrkvengeance: and if you DO kill them, it's proper to pair morning glory with a RED wine
1681 beth: a lot more cheerful than expected
1682 beth: not that theres any reason at all to be sad
1683 macey: yeah somehow we managed to talk yugioh after that
1684 beth: nope none
1685 caseyballvins: thank you yugioh for bringing us out of despair (for now)
1686 deathbyvanessa: i don't feel like it's real yet, they might be sharing the body?
1687 macey: I KIND OF HOPE SO
1688 haley: well nick kind of put us back
1689 macey: i was thinking jun might have some of hisao's memories? if not all of them
1690 caseyballvins: 100% dead now doesn't mean 100% dead later
1691 caseyballvins: just saying
1692 macey: the way he acted around guillaume it seemed sort of like he knew the deal
1693 caseyballvins: HOLDING ON TO HOPE
1694 caseyballvins: oh, interesting theory
1695 beth: oh god that would be so painfully messed up
1696 haley: yeah he seems pretty aware of who hes supposed to be
1697 darrrrkvengeance: at least this suggests Jun doesn't have the powers, or potential for them ("eyes opening")
1698 darrrrkvengeance: that some of the others do
1699 haley: is it a body thing or a mind thing though
1700 gerry: remember
1701 gerry: Nick always lies
1702 gerry: did anyone else though the girls hisao gave up was zoe?
1703 deathbyvanessa: true
1704 beth: yep
1705 gerry: ignore the last part
1706 macey: it would be p awkward for him to have hisaos memories around guillaume though
1707 darrrrkvengeance: interesting to see someone at MGA who KNOWS he shouldn't be there
1708 darrrrkvengeance: though maybe no one but he knows
1709 macey: "my dead brother fucked this guy and i know EVERY DETAIL"
1710 deathbyvanessa: hit
1711 deathbyvanessa: hot
1712 beth: v hot
1713 beth: but what if there's still emotions lingering too
1714 macey: i honestly feel so bad for jun now too
1715 macey: like holy hell he just spent years of his life brainwashed and confused
1716 deathbyvanessa: yeah, i'm excited for the fury
1717 macey: and now he's lost his brother and had that brainwashing abruptly shattered
1718 darrrrkvengeance: do we know whether he's into boys or girls, or both or neither?
1719 caseyballvins: ugh those brothers
1720 caseyballvins: the death of me
1721 beth: no idea on his sexuality
1722 macey: no wonder he's so mad. his entire life has shattered. he's scared and confused
1723 deathbyvanessa: we don't know, i don't think
1724 gerry: he's lost every connection he ever had
1725 beth: jun 
1726 gerry: I'm very interested on what's gonna be of him
1727 macey: that last page, looking at his face, is gutwrenching
1728 caseyballvins: oh god he got the memory of his mom being murder back too
1729 macey: ohhh god
1730 beth: nooooo
1731 caseyballvins: juuuuuun
1732 deathbyvanessa: mari seemed like a nice lady
1733 darrrrkvengeance: but now he himself has basically been returned from the dead
1734 caseyballvins: no the chat's almost over, let's and on a happy note!
1735 darrrrkvengeance: that's not nothing
1736 macey: (three minutes!)
1737 darrrrkvengeance: maybe he comes away with a new perspective
1738 gerry: what did you see when your eyes oppened?
1739 caseyballvins: i'm excited for what will happen to jun though
1740 macey: http
1741 caseyballvins: like, will he join up with the truants? the glories?
1742 beth: like in terms of plot and character this is such a great twist
1743 deathbyvanessa: happy note
1744 beth: but it still hurts
1745 beth: so mch
1746 darrrrkvengeance: i mean, who else has had David's hand in his brain and lived to tell the tale
1747 macey: in all seriousness- jun had all that insider knowledge from working w/ the cloaks
1748 macey: he's gonna be useful
1749 caseyballvins: MACEY
1750 beth: seriously
1751 caseyballvins: NO
1752 caseyballvins: THAT PICTURE
1753 caseyballvins: not cool
1754 haley: rude
1755 macey1: that MIGHT be the worst panel in mg.
1756 caseyballvins: but yeah, jun is going to be soooo useful
1757 beth: quite possibly
1758 macey: wrong browser
1759 beth: like it was bad before
1760 haley: if he wants to be
1761 caseyballvins: It definitely might be
1762 macey: but yeah. worst.
1763 beth: but now
1764 caseyballvins: definitely
1765 beth: jesus
1766 beth: why
1767 macey: the very last panel too. he just looks so terrified
1768 gerry: guys, thanks for making me feel happy after being put literally in shock by this issue
1769 caseyballvins: and just saying "brother"
1770 caseyballvins: ugh
1771 beth: weeps
1772 macey: thank YOU gerry
1773 gerry: so not clickling that picture
1774 caseyballvins: I'm glad we got through this trying time together
1775 macey: thank you all of you you're all the best
1776 beth: im really glad for this
1777 macey: this chat was no fun when it should not have been tbh
1778 macey: *SO
1779 darrrrkvengeance: just 100 more issues of suffering. lol
1780 macey: IT WAS SO FUN. WORST TYPO
1781 haley: a+ team
1782 macey: woohoo come in for high fives
1783 caseyballvins: these are great chats 
1784 caseyballvins: HIGH FIVE
1785 deathbyvanessa: cybe five!
1786 caseyballvins: and group hugs
1787 beth: YEAA!!
1788 macey: but yeah it is closing time and stuff now! thank you all for coming!
1789 gerry: *H5*
1790 beth: thanks macey!!
1791 caseyballvins: will all need hugs
1792 deathbyvanessa: bye
1793 beth: hugs for all
1794 caseyballvins: Thank you macey 
1795 macey: thank YOU PEOPLE for stopping in
1796 haley: byee thanks macey
1797 caseyballvins: bye all
1798 gerry: Hugs everybody
1799 gerry: G'night all
1800 beth: goodnight!
1801 macey: there is not a chat without y'all
1802 macey: night guys!
1803 darrrrkvengeance: next time! hugs to everyone, and yay for Jader Paders
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