Report 592

Report #592
Skillset: Celestialism Skill: Paralysis
 Org: Celestines Status: Rejected Apr 2011
Furies' Decision:
We do not find this to be necessary.
Problem: A Celestine's paralysis invest is prevented by greentea and Celestines
rely on angel paralysis as one of their two sources of passive hindering.
Solution #1: Allow angel paralysis to bypass the greentea defence (similar to
 angel sensitivity bypassing deafness).
Solution #2: Provide celestines with an invest with a delayed cure that
 hinders an opponent and is not prevented by tea. Suggestion:
 replace Japhiel's weakness with 1sec eq loss or leglock.
Player Comments:
---[Placeus on 4/14 @ 23:41 writes]:
The process of preparing an angel and waiting for the synchronisation of other
abilities gives time for green tea to be refreshed. This causes it to be more
disruptive to a Celestine's bursty offence than classes with continuous sources
of paralysis. Given the availability of greentea to all classes and the ease of
putting it up, I think this level of disruption to a Celestine's hindering
should be reviewed.
---[Iasmos on 4/15 @ 14:59 writes]:
Let's just make everything bypass everything, and then nothing will be worth
anything! I say nay nay.
---[Veyrzhul on 4/15 @ 16:50 writes]:
I personally don't see how Celestine offense is relying on paralysis for it to
work. There are probably certain tactics that green tea might foil, but that
should not really be part of an envoy report unless it is seriously hindering
the guild's offense. Thus, I see no need for solution 1. As for solution 2, I'm
fine with the eq loss version, not so much the leglock one. I personally believe
that paralysis offers more options and usefulness to a Celestine than a short eq
loss, though, even when normally stopped by greentea.
---[Viynain on 4/15 @ 23:56 writes]:
Other classes have to deal with their passive means of hindering being stopped
by teas as well, and I see no reason why the Celestines should be exempt from
this. Not needed.
---[Nydekion on 4/19 @ 00:31 writes]:
I don't think an exception to greentea blocking is necessary here so not
particularly fond of solution 1. However, I can see an argument for changing
weakness (though it does help to block curing aeon marginally). Perhaps
impatience can be put in its place here instead.