146625-exile-bias

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Someone had to bring this up.
 
Really though, why does there have to be bias in a faction based mmo? How is that ever a good idea? How is it fair that the Exiles get center stage in the WS FTP trailer? The Cassians weren't even in the trailer lol. How is it fair that Dominion has the only race that only has one gender as far as customization is concerned? How is it fair that us Mechari players STILL don't have voices? Why is it  that we have NO guards in Ilium? And why is Ilium such an annoying place to navigate through? And then of course, there's the lore.
 
It's annoying enough seeing nothing but Aurin everywhere you look that has anything to do with WS, but the in game bias is particularly annoying. 
			
				
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Someone had to bring this up.
 
Really though, why does there have to be bias in a faction based mmo? How is that ever a good idea? How is it fair that the Exiles get center stage in the WS FTP trailer? How is it fair that Dominion has the only race that only has one gender as far as customization is concerned? How is it fair that us Mechari players STILL don't have voices? Why is it  that we have NO guards in Ilium? And why is Ilium such an annoying place to navigate through? And then of course, there's the lore.
 
It's annoying enough seeing nothing but Aurin everywhere you look that has anything to do with WS, but the in game bias is particularly annoying. 
 
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George Bush doesn't care about Mechari.
 
 
As a mechari main myself it dissapoints me too. There's a clear Exile bias from the development team on this game but I guess that's because the Aurin are meant to draw in the typical punter. The Exiles also being the 'good guys' just seals the deal.	
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			The Dominion could definitely be just as interesting as the Exiles, if not more so, if Carbine would put some effort into it.	
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How is it fair that Dominion has the only race that only has one gender as far as customization is concerned?
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Look at the Season 2 PVP Sets, and than come again...
 
Exile look like total goofs, while Domis look awsome.
 
Esper for example looks like a cheap version on Captain America, on the other hand Domi Esper looks godlike.
 
http://feed.wildweave.net/fr/datamining/datamining-pvp-season-2-item-set-preview-94	
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George Bush doesn't care about Mechari.
 
 
As a mechari main myself it dissapoints me too. There's a clear Exile bias from the development team on this game but I guess that's because the Aurin are meant to draw in the typical punter. The Exiles also being the 'good guys' just seals the deal.
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Look at the Season 2 PVP Sets, and than come again...
 
Exile look like total goofs, while Domis look awsome.
 
Esper for example looks like a cheap version on Captain America, on the other hand Domi Esper looks godlike.
 
http://feed.wildweave.net/fr/datamining/datamining-pvp-season-2-item-set-preview-94
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Okay I came again. Aaaaand I dont care about a pvp set.
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They all look cupcaking awesome (Dom) EXCEPT, for medics.... WTF Carbine, we are techno healers, what kind of look were you going for with that :/ Exile stalker set looks like it would make a good Medic set... or something similar just swap the blue with red .... *sigh* 
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I've had this same thought for months now, to the point I left behind all my Exile toons, money, dyes, mounts and almost all of my friends, just to help grow the Dominion side.
 
For the first few weeks after F2P, you couldn't move without bumping into a Dominion player and it was very awesome.
 
That said, while there are still plenty of players around, zone into Illium on a Saturday evening and then zone into Thayd. The differences, even with all the Freebots, is still pretty clearly lop-sided.
 
At this point, it's up to the playerbase to get the word out and try and convince every new player who pops in here to go Dominion. If Crabine won't give us the time of day, then we have no choice but to do it ourselves.	
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I went and looked and yeah, the Dominion sets do look a lot cooler, especially the warrior set which is good for me :D and yeah the  medic one was the only one I really didnt like.
 
The exiles have a few decent looking ones but otherwise look bad. Fits their aesthetics though :)
 
 
 
Also how is the character situation on the Exiles? I have not really played them so I dont know what characters they have but I have heard that their's are much more prominent. Most of the Dominion characters dont really do anything like; Axis Phydra (who I really like), and Mondo Zax. Artemis Xin is cool but she takes all the credit for what we do lol. And then there's agent Lex who shows up every now and then. Just saying that Agent Voxine would be a great addition........ 
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I played exile in beta because I loved the mordesh.
 
I still love the mordesh, but the dominion are a gem. People just don't have the time to see just how amazing the dominion lore is, it isn't all "stuck up snobs", but there is so much character in the lowborns, so much care for their people.
 
Luminai EU, I think is doing great for dominion. We've got great numbers.	
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It would probably help if the dominion race that shows up on wildstar advertisements wasn't the chua. The taller side ads are generally a female Aurin, or in one rare case I saw a female mechari for a millisecond before it panned over and stayed on some exile human. You would think that they would show ads that buff the more underplayed faction if they want to keep the idea that this is a Two faction game. 
 
Apparently this is not the case, and all they care about is bodies rather than balance in the marketing department. All the f2players in the universe can't balance things if only one faction is seen, and talked about. 	
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I played exile in beta because I loved the mordesh.
 
I still love the mordesh, but the dominion are a gem. People just don't have the time to see just how amazing the dominion lore is, it isn't all "stuck up snobs", but there is so much character in the lowborns, so much care for their people.
 
Luminai EU, I think is doing great for dominion. We've got great numbers.
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draken female > aurin female 
 
That is if you're into tails.	
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I offer the input of a free player :D
 
I have nothing against dominion, but the races turned me off... I didn't like any of them the except for human and well... I already am one. Chua is kinda cute.. But more like a pet. *runs from angry chuas*
 
I went exile because of the Aurin, I'M A GIRL LEAVE ME ALONE OKAY :( I like nature, I like cute, they also looked cool and agile un the trailers! 
 
Then the fact that while dommie is a huge empire with fleets and great Power, exiles are just a bunch of rag tag heroes... I like the underdog fighting a losing battle with all theyve got! Just appeals to me more. :)
 
Hope no one was offended.	
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			I didn't say only girls like them and that if you're one you MUST like them. Just from my experience talking to people in game, most Aurin are girl players.	
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			I'm a girl and I think aurin are dumb. I'd much rather be a draken female.	
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I'm a girl and I think aurin are dumb. I'd much rather be a draken female.
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I only play Cassians on the Dominion side.
 
But uh ... that's because all my toons are based off Archer characters. :lol:	
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I only play Cassians on the Dominion side.
 
But uh ... that's because all my toons are based off Archer characters. :lol:
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I started Wildstar shortly after it went f2p.  I wasn't waiting for it or anything, I just happened to be shopping around at the time and found it.  The trailers sold me.  I went Entity-2 because I think it was default at the time.  I've liked it so far and subbed for 6 months to do my part and help support it (the 25% XP boost is nice, too, along with the free cookies that arrived in the mail).
 
I started on the Exile side for no other reason than I liked the Mordesh in character creation and the exile humans didn't look as stuck up as the Dominion humans.  I wasn't really thrilled with the squirrel people and they're ... just ... everywhere.  So many ...  As I've said in a previous post I've mostly played up to the 12-15 range to try out various races and classes so I've been mostly in the pre-Thayd zones.  They tend to be pretty lively and Thayd is full of hustle and bustle.
 
This weekend I decided to try out Dominion.  The Chua were way too tiny for my tastes and I couldn't get past Mechari females having built-in high heels.  Cassians were too snooty-looking.  But Drakens ... Drakens are awesome, especially the females.  They have attitude.  So I played one up to Illium.  Illium was a ghost town compared to Thayd.  Very organized but sterile and empty.  While leveling to Illium I didn't see other players nearly as often as on the Exile side.  On the Exile side, I couldn't turn around without tripping over a squirrel.
 
I'm at the point where I'm going to begin moving onward and upward with a class or two from the lower zones.  While I've enjoyed the Exile side, I'm tempted to continue with Dominion if for no other reason than to get away from all the squirrels running about.  I'm just hoping I'll be able to find more players as I continue to move onward.  If so, I hope I won't be tripping over Chuas every time I turn around.  From my limited perspective there does indeed seem to be a bit of faction imbalance.  I blame the squirrels.	
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I'm a girl and I think Draken need a trip to the dermatologist   :o
 
I like the way the clothes look on female human and Aurins.
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  Illium was a ghost town compared to Thayd.  Very organized but sterile and empty.  While leveling to Illium I didn't see other players nearly as often as on the Exile side. 
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 lop-sided.
 
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Okay I came again. Aaaaand I dont care about a pvp set. I will admit the Dominion sets do look a lot cooler but then everything looks cooler for the Dominion.
 
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I went and looked and yeah, the Dominion sets do look a lot cooler, especially the warrior set which is good for me :D and yeah the  medic one was the only one I really didnt like.
 
The exiles have a few decent looking ones but otherwise look bad. Fits their aesthetics though :)
 
Also how is the character situation on the Exiles? I have not really played them so I dont know what characters they have but I have heard that their's are much more prominent. Most of the Dominion characters dont really do anything like; Axis Phydra (who I really like), and Mondo Zax. Artemis Xin is cool but she takes all the credit for what we do lol. And then there's agent Lex who shows up every now and then. Just saying that Agent Voxine would be a great addition........ 
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Not "aurin-sided?"  Ah, if only it were lopp-sided.  Anyhow.  While yes, the Exiles are used for the "cool rebel" ethos and hints of Firefly in the advertisement, as someone who is playing both factions within the game itself, they seem to get about even attention.  Both factions are the good guys.  Both factions are the bad guys.  Both factions are about even for "cool" factor.  This is very much a "spaghetti space western" and not a "white hat/black hat space western."  Well, to be honest, Cowboy Bebop.  Or Firefly before the film [where the central government took a turn for overall Evil well past the petty evils of the protagonists].
 
Narratively, and within the questing story, both factions are on par for being justified, and both factions are on par for being Bad.  This is good.  Really, the only place I could possibly see a mis-alignment is in the advertisements, but that's mainly an element of wanting to play to familiar story tropes for those who haven't looked at the game at all yet.  Once you're here, both factions have a lot to offer aesthetically, narratively, and "morally" for player identification and buy-in.
 
That's actually a rare balance, where most games give one faction the "black hat" and the other faction the "white hat" either from the start [WarHammer, Star Wars], or eventually [WarCraft].
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Just curious. You keep saying "no guards in Illium" like that's some kind of downside or game-breaker?We have guards. I ask them for directions. We have guards. I helped bring the giant walking robots back on-line and they patrol the city.
 
The heck you on about?  :lol:	
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			There's also Mordesh... Which imo is the second best looking race in the game. If I want cute, I play Aurin, if i want baddass, I play Mordesh. Lizard gals just cant compete. :(	
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Except we have a race with only one gender, no voices for Mechari, no guards in Ilium, the lore, etc. And the advertising doesnt even make sense. Why show off the faction that has the much larger population the most? So we can have MORE AURIN?
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Too be fair, Chua do have two genders / sexes they just don't have visible sexual dimorphism
 
I could do with out the grody undies though... 
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There's also Mordesh... Which imo is the second best looking race in the game. If I want cute, I play Aurin, if i want baddass, I play Mordesh. Lizard gals just cant compete. :(
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There's also Mordesh... Which imo is the second best looking race in the game. If I want cute, I play Aurin, if i want baddass, I play Mordesh. Lizard gals just cant compete. :(
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The mordesh is the only thing that sells it for me for exile unfortunately. I just found the whole exile thing too... i don't know... gimmicky? The whole "we're space cowboys, we're the GOOD guys!!!" theme is everywhere, and the AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL voices for human and aurins. It just grates on me. The mordesh act like they're there just because they had no other choice really, and if the past were different... Well yknow :P
 
I just feel like the dominion have a lot more depth. I mean I love the exile lore, but the dominion from the outside just looks like a big political, evil and horrible. But it's not at all.
 
The way they were portrayed early on has completely destroyed dominion numbers imho.	
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^^ the "meet the dominion" trailer was far more funny than the exile one tho. :pp
The drunk snoby guy was great.
 
But I agree... It would really help the faction if they were to show dem dommies in a more neutral light. Not soft but with maybe some pet the dog moments?	
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			Also what's with Mechari having exposed feet? Are they ever going to change that? Or do they just not care about us?	
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That said, while there are still plenty of players around, zone into Illium on a Saturday evening and then zone into Thayd. The differences, even with all the Freebots, is still pretty clearly lop-sided.
 
 
Aww I was hoping for a pun... loppsided	
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Aww I was hoping for a pun... loppsided
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Just curious. You keep saying "no guards in Illium" like that's some kind of downside or game-breaker?
 
We have guards. I ask them for directions. We have guards. I helped bring the giant walking robots back on-line and they patrol the city.
 
The heck you on about?  :lol:
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Lol yes we have guards, but not nearly as many as the Exiles do for some reason, and for some reason they arent around critical areas like THE CONTRACT BOARD. So basically any group of Aurin stalkers can just walk in and kill anyone thats flagged who happens to be around those areas. Try that in Thayd. 
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Except we have a race with only one gender, no voices for Mechari, no guards in Ilium, the lore, etc. And the advertising doesnt even make sense. Why show off the faction that has the much larger population the most? So we can have MORE AURIN?
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The species with no sexual dimorphism [the chua] isn't a disadvantage, really.  Per discussion elsewhere, while it is rare in video games [though growing less so] to not have extreme sexualization of characters, it's not unwelcome to everyone.  I do like one suggestion, though, of having chua able to wear either the "female" or the "male" versions of wardrobe items, rather than simply an "in between" version.  While it doesn't make much difference at all to the combat armours, it could make a difference for civilian non-combat costume items, and could be especially fun if the players didn't try to restrict themselves to one or the other, but allowed chue of both sexes to wear both.  Regardless, chua not having to be either breasts or shoulders, depending on player choice?  Not really a down-side, to my mind.
 
Mechari voices?  I suppose that shows how I usually play with the sound low or off.  I didn't realize the mechari voice emotes had no voices.  And really, mechari voice emotes could be as simple as sampling a bit of the old modem chatter to play during speeches.  It wouldn't even need a voice actor.
 
Guards?  Like Tex, I've seen lots of guards, but I have not been thinking specifically in terms of PvP "ganking," as my play-time is mostly on a PvE server.
 
As for the lore, as I've mentioned elsewhere [above?], both factions in the setting come off as sympathetic, if you read or play both factions.  Both factions come off as justified, if you read or play both factions.  Both factions have individuals and groups that have done Bad, if you read and play both factions.  Both factions are "grey hat" if you read and play both factions.  Both factions are "winning" if you read and play both factions.  Both factions are "losing" if you read and play both factions.  Both factions have "cool" factor, if you read and play both factions.  Neither faction has an exclusive claim on being the hero or the villain.  Spaghetti Western, remember.  Lots of "grey hats."
 
As for the advertising, it's fairly obviously because their target market find the rebel underdogs a cool hook that will lure them to the game, where they can discover both factions.  You can thank things like Star Wars, Firefly, V for Vendetta, Dune, A Song of Ice and Fire; there are lots of currently popular stories in Speculative Fiction which hold up the plucky rebel underdog of questionable morals.  It's an obvious target for advertising.
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What would female / male versions of chua gear look like? They don't have seperate gender roles, What does a girly hamster look like? Every other hamster... I would just suggest a neutral pair of undies. the rest of the gear is fine though.
 
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Lol yes we have guards, but not nearly as many as the Exiles do for some reason, and for some reason they arent around critical areas like THE CONTRACT BOARD. So basically any group of Aurin stalkers can just walk in and kill anyone thats flagged who happens to be around those areas. Try that in Thayd. 
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			...who cares about an A-hole faction? (/sarcasm btw) but really dommies are the bad guys exiles are the good guys (in majority for both so to say), so of course the exiles are going to get more light than the dominion. in most other MMOs that have factions its usually both are A-holes but the case here is really cut and dry that there is a good side and a bad side... usually the bad side doesnt get that much light on them. also its not THAT bad for dommi (unless you looking at pop), they have their up sides like clothing, building structure, ....um.....weapon... styles? and uh.....umm...... other things.... 	
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Well, what would a "boyish" space hamster look like?  The girly one is obviously the one we all have now.  The sexually-dimorphic and exaggeratedly MALE one is obviously the one we're missing, right?
 
[And yes, space-opera and other SF underdogs often end up with their own great winning empires - the ragtag misfits in Star Wars eventually have the massive Rebel Alliance taking on Imperial fleets directly - but that initial rebel underdog trope still seems to hold a lot of appeal.]
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No need to change how their gear looks.  They didn't with Asura and Charr females in Guild Wars 2.  All they'd really need to do is add a feminine VO to the female choice.
 
That was my point (gear- with the sole exception of changing the undies to neutral). Also big no to the VO. Chua voices don't really sound male / female and that's ok in my book (since there is no reason for them to sound different given the lack of dimorphism)
 
In defense of Granok feet being made of stone, their feet don't have a third toe coming from their heel, or a heel spike in the females.  Their feet look as normal as your feet.  That said, I prefer my Mechari girl's heel in the satisfaction of how painful it must feel to get kicked in the kidneys with a 4- to 6-inch heel spike.  Hell, I say get rid of their shoes altogether.  Give 'em Rowsdower leg warmers instead of slippers, that sort of thing.
 
Pretty bad excuse, shoes can be easily made to accomodate such things. Just have an option of hiding shoes just like we can hide head gear.. oh wait we already do :D !!!!! That way you can wear nifty shoes or show off your mechari feet.
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...who cares about an A-hole faction? (/sarcasm btw) but really dommies are the bad guys exiles are the good guys (in majority for both so to say), so of course the exiles are going to get more light than the dominion. in most other MMOs that have factions its usually both are A-holes but the case here is really cut and dry that there is a good side and a bad side... usually the bad side doesnt get that much light on them. also its not THAT bad for dommi (unless you looking at pop), they have their up sides like clothing, building structure, ....um.....weapon... styles? and uh.....umm...... other things.... 
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- made a chua that i can kind of tolerate.  (same reason I could never play a dwarf in DDO - they waddle.  It irritated me.  I played halflings all the time btw, so again, i like smaller races).  -
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...who cares about an A-hole faction? (/sarcasm btw) but really dommies are the bad guys exiles are the good guys (in majority for both so to say), so of course the exiles are going to get more light than the dominion. in most other MMOs that have factions its usually both are A-holes but the case here is really cut and dry that there is a good side and a bad side... usually the bad side doesnt get that much light on them. also its not THAT bad for dommi (unless you looking at pop), they have their up sides like clothing, building structure, ....um.....weapon... styles? and uh.....umm...... other things.... 
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I didn't say only girls like them and that if you're one you MUST like them. Just from my experience talking to people in game, most Aurin are girl players.
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The Exiles are just as much bad as Dominion are good.  Play both sides and see for yourself.
 
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i have and within the first couple of mission it was kill the innocent people and creatures for the dominion!!! like really? the dommi just want to rule over everything and the exiles just want to be left alone.... im sorry how is that a bad thing lol? but like i said MOSTLY its a bad vs good thing both sides at small times show their ugly/nice face but on the grand scale its exiles good - dommi bad.
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The first mission for the Dominion is a scientific expedition to Levian bay that gets attacked by Exile saboteurs. (going the Levian Bay - Ellevar route). During the attack you even find a Cassian Medic saving an aurin soldier; they have a substantial dialogue... The Dominion wan'ts to unite the galaxy in peace and order, and believe it is the will of their literal gods (the Eldan) that they do so. 
 
Here's what CRBHernCO said about this topic (from his lore drop on reddit):
 
"The main conflict in the game is between the Dominion, who believe their gods (the Eldan) granted them the galaxy to rule in the name of peace, law, and justice; and the Exiles, who have banded together to oppose them - or just survive. The Dominion isn't inherently evil and the Exiles aren't inherently good, they just have opposing beliefs about what's best for the universe, and they feel very strongly about it."
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The Chua run animation is one of the better ones IMO. especially with resonators of pistols drawn!
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That's not the case at all for the Mechari, and them and the Draken look great so I dont know what you are complaining about here. Granok maybe, but they look retarded anyway.
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i know the convo you speak of and in that same convo the aurin asks why to keep him alive as the dommi are only going to torture him for info and the doc says thats not their call. this falls in yes the doc has a heart because they are healing the dommi but also can be seen as bad because they know the outcome of why they are healing them. 
 
Actually, you never find out what happens to the Aurin; He was only a private, so he probably ended up in a Dominion prison. Unless you have information the Dominion needs you're not gonna have time wasted torturing you (the same, by the way is true of the Exiles, except while Avra darkos and her goons will torture you for info, the Mordesh Alchemists will also use you as a test subject for their bio weapons). 
 
so if my belief says that im right to rule and youre to be my subordinate then im in no fault if i try to take over your planets and force you to do so even though you dont wish to... thats what youre saying right? FORCING some one to live by YOUR beliefs when they DONT WANT TO is BAD lol. the dommi see themselves are the people to rule and bring law to the universe and the exiles dont want any of it but are being FORCED to do so... yeah im calling the exiles good guys and dommi the bad guys xD  
 
The Dominion has class prejudice, but is actually as if not more equal than the Exiles. All citizens of the Dominion can attain high official rank, including Chua, Draken, Mechari, High born, and Low born cassians. The only position restricted by race is that of emperor, which requires some Eldan genetics to hold. Education is provided to all, as are basic services. The Exiles are trying to force their believes about the running of the galaxy just as much as the Dominion is. The difference being? The Eldan created or had a hand in literally genetically shaping much of the galaxy, and 
 actually succeeded for better and for worse in becoming a literal god, the Drusentity 
 
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The Mechari have the least reason of all for gender differences. Why were high-heels built into the female feet? Why do they have breasts? Why do they wear lipstick? It's ridiculous.
 
Also, it would make more sense for the female Draken to be hunched over than the male Draken. They actually have extra weight on their chest to bring them down.
 
If you think they "look great", then hey, difference of opinion. But let's not pretend their designs are anything but sexualization.
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The Chua run animation is one of the better ones IMO. especially with resonators of pistols drawn!
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You read that wrong.  I made a draken but could not play him because of the hunch thing.  Similar to how I could not play a dwarf in ddo because they waddle.  
 
I made a chua that i can tolerate, thus he is level 16 and not deleted like teh draken. :)
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I agree, but more in the sense of "it sure would be nice if the Exiles had one race where the females didn't just look like tiny-waisted, inexplicibly-more-human versions of the males with breasts slapped on because sure, that makes complete sense for lizards, or robots, or ROCKS."
 
I'll never get over how dumb that is.
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So basically you want the Draken, Mechari, and Granoks to be like the Chua where the males and females are indistinguishable? That would suck.
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The mechari were intentionally designed that way to more comfortably interface with organic lifeforms that displayed similar sexual characteristics. And Mechari soul cores DO have inherent gender / points on the gender spectrum. They are living beings just like any other, they just happen to be living crystal...
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So basically you want the Draken, Mechari, and Granoks to be like the Chua where the males and females are indistinguishable? That would suck.
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Dont be jealous that Draken girls are hotter.\
 
 
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One thing to keep in mind, Thayd is much more densely packed than Illium. In Thayd, the portal ships, the contracts, the daily quest givers, the AH, the CX, the Guild Management and the Crafting and Runing Stations are all within eyeshot of each other. So you can see *every single player* in one quick jaunt.
 
Illium is so spread out, it's possible to see the cluster at the Contracts area, but not the AH/CX around the corner and certainly not the Crafting/Runing area, much less the spread-out-all-over portal ships.
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Why do you keep calling differing opinions 'jealous'? Makes you sound defensive which, IMO, isn't a good way to show for the Dominion. Which, by the way, I have a few.
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Pretty sure that's not what was being said.
 
Draken are not just sexually diamorphic ... they are basically two entirely different races. That is how wildly different the males and female are.
 
Mechari get a pass because (according to Lore) they were created to resemble Cassian Humans, so they would be easier to accept as instructors/protectors created by the Eldan. (Copout, as poster above pointed out, but acceptable)
 
But Granok. Holy hells, don't get me started. What the HELL does a female made from ROCK have giant bouncing breasts? First, they are ROCK, so they obviously don't lactate. Second, they are ROCK and don't age or grow. Third, they are ROCK and don't freaking need secondary sexual organs because they don't freaking breed like humans!
 
Now, don't get me wrong. I love all our races for one reason or another, but the logic and lore behind some of the design choices is pretty odd, to say the least.
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Someone had to bring this up.
 
Really though, why does there have to be bias in a faction based mmo? How is that ever a good idea? How is it fair that the Exiles get center stage in the WS FTP trailer? The Cassians weren't even in the trailer lol. How is it fair that Dominion has the only race that only has one gender as far as customization is concerned? How is it fair that us Mechari players STILL don't have voices? Why is it  that we have NO guards in Ilium? And why is Ilium such an annoying place to navigate through? And then of course, there's the lore.
 
It's annoying enough seeing nothing but Aurin everywhere you look that has anything to do with WS, but the in game bias is particularly annoying. 
 
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All right.  After much deliberation and after reading this thread and a few others over the last few days, I've decided to go all in with Dominion and do my part in growing the side.  I'm not vested in the Exile side to this point since I've only been playing for a few weeks.  I'll keep my Mordesh on the Exile side just so I can pop in from time to time and glare at the squirrels.  I've got a female Draken warrior sitting in Illium from this weekend's first-timer Dominion expedition through Deradune, so I'm off to a good start.
 
I made a male Cassian stalker, aptly named Crunch Hardtack, and dropped him into Levian Bay to run that side for the first time.  I'll be starting him off tonight.  Now all I have to do is figure out where the main chat channels are for Dominion, do the level 10 dungeon for the first time ever to learn about WS dungeoneering, and then see what all this stealth tanking is about.  Now that I've chosen a team, and of course the correct one, I'm ready to dive in, advance the side, and perhaps do some squirrel hunting later on.  Yeah.  Dominion.  That's what I'm talking about.	
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Look at the Season 2 PVP Sets, and than come again...
 
Exile look like total goofs, while Domis look awsome.
 
Esper for example looks like a cheap version on Captain America, on the other hand Domi Esper looks godlike.
 
http://feed.wildweave.net/fr/datamining/datamining-pvp-season-2-item-set-preview-94
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Domi esper looks like a wow paladin. Are you high?  Is that what you meant by godlike,  powered by the light?   
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Has that ever actually happened? I have seen Dommies in Thayd before, but never the other way around.
 
I mean, not that it *matters* ... but that's one thing that always aggravated me about WildStar. My favorite times in WoW involved taking a raid (or two) into Stormwind or Ironforge and just taking over. We have nothing comparable to that here and it's pretty damn lamesauce.
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The Mechari have the least reason of all for gender differences. Why were high-heels built into the female feet? Why do they have breasts? Why do they wear lipstick? It's ridiculous.
 
Also, it would make more sense for the female Draken to be hunched over than the male Draken. They actually have extra weight on their chest to bring them down.
 
If you think they "look great", then hey, difference of opinion. But let's not pretend their designs are anything but sexualization.
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I really don't get how people see "Exiles are teh Underdog" as appealing.  I've played both sides, and rather then a scrappy underdog, I see a motley collection of morons celebrating mediocrity.
 
Belle Walker- Hey, lets push this button, sugar! Oops, I did something bad, who'da thunk! Tee hee.  Will you kill some things while I push more buttons at random, sugar? (that fake southern accent too. eugh.)
 
Commander Durek- KILL TEH DOMMMINOS
(Random Exile Soldier)- Those aren't Domi's, they're natives, and we really don't need to start another war...
Commander Durek- DOMM... Domi... Dea.... damn it, just shoot some stuff already!
 
Dorian Walker- Hoo daddy that's a special somethin' there. Yup. Pretty special. Hoo.
 
Judge Kain- <Insert Spaghetti Western cliche one-liner here>
 
Deadeye Duncan- I'd like to use some of that neato character development I got on the Arkship and Northern Wilds, but I'm really too busy standing around saying "Howdy" and shooting things to be bothered.
 
Queen Myala: I'm the best written character on my entire faction! I may be boring, cliche'd, and unremarkable, but you don't have to outrun the bear, you know?	
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While it's an important discussion to talk about sexual dimorphism and the weak excuses keeping up rock boobs - this thread isn't about that.  Lets talk about how dominion image in early starting zones and advertisement really works against us and makes people want to swap to the "good guys"
 
I mean, look at the F2P trailer.  I was hoping that when it showed the dominion on the horizon they might get some spotlight, show how awesome they are but nope.  Just a red evil force come to smash our poor kitties :'(
 
Even the starter zones seem kinda skewed.  Everstar grove (or w/e it's called) has the dominion burning down woods and destroying things all willy-nilly looking like they're all about DEATH AND DESTRUCTION.  How horrible they are to ruin such a nice forest, huh?
 
Then you get the northern wastes with the dominion shooting down and hurting some important people :\
 
With the dominion side of things, the exiles really are just kinda... there.  They're fighting back against you and that's it it feels like.  I guess it plays into the whole "exiles are really just annoying flys" but it doesn't show they're grey areas.
 
It's just no surprise people can't see how dominion has a deeper story when the trailers and starting areas are so black and white.	
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Why do you keep calling differing opinions 'jealous'? Makes you sound defensive which, IMO, isn't a good way to show for the Dominion. Which, by the way, I have a few.
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That's such an obvious copout answer, though, because in any race with similar sexual characteristics, you could have just sent one "male" Mechari and it would have made no difference. Of all the races that are playable in the game (not counting Mechari), five out of six have male and female genders, and the sixth has no visible distinction between the two genders. The only "all-female" race I've seen is only all-female because they're all basically immortal, and they were "created" by the Eldan's interference, anyway. And given the sheer number of Mechari, where are the Mechari that were designed to interact with species like the Chua? Did the Eldan not know that there were species out there that didn't all have a binary look between "men" and "women", or did they think that wasting half their time building a "second gender" under the assumption that they would run into a bunch of worlds either made of all-females or ruled by females was worth more than building a smaller, less-intimidating Mechari?
 
It's obvious that Mechari design came first, and Mechari lore came after. The developers built breasts, and then they asked themselves, "okay, why do they have breasts?"
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 To be fair, it was the Chua who burned down Everroot, and the Chua actually *are* pretty evil (The Zax is, at any rate).  The problem is that they are the dominant PR face of the Dominion from the Exiles POV.
 
Levian Bay is probably my favorite starter zone.  We find out on the Arkship about how the Dominion are supposedly the chosen people of the Eldan, and then we meet the Caretaker, and he's like "Oh, a Cassian? Well then.  Let me unlock the doors for you."  I just got the feeling that there was suddenly some weight to this backstory and that it was going to come back later.
 
ps. I really miss the racist hologram rooms on the arkship.  Wildstar races are already caricatures of real life, and then we have in-universe caricatures of the caricatures, and I start giggling with glee.
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Yeah. Was that getting rid of that simply an attempt to convey the Dominion in a better light? 
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However, considering that the mechari were made for the explicit purpose of interacting with the humans of Cassius, there was absolutely no reason for the eldan to create mechari that resembled chua, draken or any other non-human race.
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Not if you read the lore. In fact it's made pretty clear to all of those. There are very valid reasons for the Mechari having two genders. I suggest you read up on it.  And no kidding to the second point, my point is that it doesnt matter.
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People are calling the chua leader mondo zax evil?  no
 
 
 
 
 
 
			
				
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I'm interested in lore, so when I ask this, understand that I'm genuinely interested: where is that explicitly stated?
 
Because in every - source - I've found, they say that the Mechari were created to observe and communicate with the other races of the galaxy, and that they were sent, by the Eldans, to various planets throughout space. They don't say that they were designed explicitly to interact with humans, and they don't say why they were designed explicitly to interact with humans-- because they say the Mechari were designed for the purpose of interacting with many races.
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			Yea I will call Mondo an evil space hamster. He killed most, or all of his own family for starts. He would kill the player just because they seem to survive all the dumb missions he sends them on, and he invented the planet reaper. I can understand a resource gatherer, but these things take it to an extreme that is meant to cause torment to the Aurin. So yes the little fuzzball is a psycho and I don't have a problem calling him evil. 
			
				
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			I think that Chua are less evil, and more along the lines of a natural disaster.  A force of nature given direction by the Dominion.  	
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Everybody blames mondo but has anybody seen the aurin?  he was being too nice.
 
 
 
 
 
I fought mondo once he was being nice. Then we had an affair afterwards in the holo taxi.
 
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Someone had to bring this up.
 
Really though, why does there have to be bias in a faction based mmo? How is that ever a good idea? How is it fair that the Exiles get center stage in the WS FTP trailer? The Cassians weren't even in the trailer lol. How is it fair that Dominion has the only race that only has one gender as far as customization is concerned? How is it fair that us Mechari players STILL don't have voices? Why is it  that we have NO guards in Ilium? And why is Ilium such an annoying place to navigate through? And then of course, there's the lore.
 
It's annoying enough seeing nothing but Aurin everywhere you look that has anything to do with WS, but the in game bias is particularly annoying. 
 
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The Mechari ACTUALLY DO HAVE GENDER. The Chasis form they are provided is designed to 1) match their own personal place on the gender spectrum and 2) resemble humanoid forms of that gender in order to facilitate smooth Mechari - cassian interactions. Again, because it apparently needs to be repeated; MECHARI ARE NOT ROBOTS! They are living creatures (albeit in crystal form). (most of this is in the official loremaggedon / time line)
 
Also, Mondo and the chua aren't evil. Misunderstood maybe, but what do you expect from a race thats nearly impervious to toxicity and severe injury with massive birth rates that's culture has built out of surviving and industrializing with limited resources? Chua's greatest resource is the chua themselves; so it's no surprise that they would come off as unusually cruel or capricious to other races with much lesser tolerance to injury and far fewer expendable members of their species.
 
Do we think of birds as evil because they have more young than they know can survive, and the weakest are forced to die off and be eaten by their siblings? Why would that make Chua evil that they evolved in a similar manner?	
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The Mechari ACTUALLY DO HAVE GENDER. The Chasis form they are provided is designed to 1) match their own personal place on the gender spectrum and 2) resemble humanoid forms of that gender in order to facilitate smooth Mechari - cassian interactions. Again, because it apparently needs to be repeated; MECHARI ARE NOT ROBOTS! They are living creatures (albeit in crystal form). (most of this is in the official loremaggedon / time line)
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Also, Mondo and the chua aren't evil. Misunderstood maybe, but what do you expect from a race thats nearly impervious to toxicity and severe injury with massive birth rates that's culture has built out of surviving and industrializing with limited resources? Chua's greatest resource is the chua themselves; so it's no surprise that they would come off as unusually cruel or capricious to other races with much lesser tolerance to injury and far fewer expendable members of their species.
 
Do we think of birds as evil because they have more young than they know can survive, and the weakest are forced to die off and be eaten by their siblings? Why would that make Chua evil that they evolved in a similar manner?
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Amazon Princess...that is so true.  I just made a Draken spellslinger and every word out of quest givers' mouths is that if you don't die out there or get the quest done, I'll kill you myself....Mondo is the worst of them.  How anyone can say that the Dominion is not evil (Sith like) is beyond me but unlike in SWTOR where you can respond, you just have to take it in Wildstar.  "Oh you want me to die out there you little ass, how about I kill you instead?"  Why can I not kill him?  It would be so much fun.  I'd kill him over and over and over again.
 
Dominion is what the Exiles aren't.  The Exiles might be jerks but I haven't heard anyone tell my character that he wishes she were dead on the Exile side.  One can only take so much abuse before one places a mouse trap for that little rodent and puts some cheese in it....SNAP!	
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lol Uhh so I make a joke, and you see that as being defensive? The irony here is that you seem like the one that's getting defensive. Why cause you play those dirty Aurin :D? I kid.
 
And I sure hope you are joking about the last part. generalizing an entire population based on the actions of one person? Come on now.
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 Why is it  that we have NO guards in Ilium?
 
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Also, Mondo and the chua aren't evil. Misunderstood maybe, but what do you expect from a race thats nearly impervious to toxicity and severe injury with massive birth rates that's culture has built out of surviving and industrializing with limited resources? Chua's greatest resource is the chua themselves; so it's no surprise that they would come off as unusually cruel or capricious to other races with much lesser tolerance to injury and far fewer expendable members of their species.
 
Do we think of birds as evil because they have more young than they know can survive, and the weakest are forced to die off and be eaten by their siblings? Why would that make Chua evil that they evolved in a similar manner?
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  And I'm a bit surprised that anyone would assume the voice files are "obviously male" either:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em4Xfzz01UU
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I imagine the Cassians were left out of the cinematic to prevent confusion with the Exile's humans. 
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Which makes no sense as there are Humans on the other side, and they're the original ones.
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I'm about to go all 'MURICA up in this thread!
 
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Amazon Princess...that is so true.  I just made a Draken spellslinger and every word out of quest givers' mouths is that if you don't die out there or get the quest done, I'll kill you myself....Mondo is the worst of them.  How anyone can say that the Dominion is not evil (Sith like) is beyond me but unlike in SWTOR where you can respond, you just have to take it in Wildstar.  "Oh you want me to die out there you little ass, how about I kill you instead?"  Why can I not kill him?  It would be so much fun.  I'd kill him over and over and over again.
 
Dominion is what the Exiles aren't.  The Exiles might be jerks but I haven't heard anyone tell my character that he wishes she were dead on the Exile side.  One can only take so much abuse before one places a mouse trap for that little rodent and puts some cheese in it....SNAP!
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i know the convo you speak of and in that same convo the aurin asks why to keep him alive as the dommi are only going to torture him for info and the doc says thats not their call. this falls in yes the doc has a heart because they are healing the dommi but also can be seen as bad because they know the outcome of why they are healing them.
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Actually... as per Carbine, they do.
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			They're not really /rocks/ per se. They're silica-based organisms, which sure is different than being carbon-based, but they're living organisms all the same. On a molecular level, their physiology is different, but I'm guessing Carbine didn't consult scientists to work out the implications of that kind of thing. xD	
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Think of it this way: You have the infinite possibility of space to work with, the ability to invent entire species at your fingertips, and you decide to design.. humans. Humans with robot parts, humans made of rocks, humans with tails.
 
Don't get me wrong, I get it. I get it, you have to design races that you can slap the same hats and pants and weapons on, because animation is hard and you have deadlines to meet and blah blah blah. But then you show me a male Draken who can at least be hunched over, and you decide "nah, bring the women back a bit, make them look more human again"? What? That's dumb.	
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Think of it this way: You have the infinite possibility of space to work with, the ability to invent entire species at your fingertips, and you decide to design.. humans. Humans with robot parts, humans made of rocks, humans with tails.
 
Don't get me wrong, I get it. I get it, you have to design races that you can slap the same hats and pants and weapons on, because animation is hard and you have deadlines to meet and blah blah blah. But then you show me a male Draken who can at least be hunched over, and you decide "nah, bring the women back a bit, make them look more human again"? What? That's dumb.
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Think of it this way: You have the infinite possibility of space to work with, the ability to invent entire species at your fingertips, and you decide to design.. humans. Humans with robot parts, humans made of rocks, humans with tails.
 
Don't get me wrong, I get it. I get it, you have to design races that you can slap the same hats and pants and weapons on, because animation is hard and you have deadlines to meet and blah blah blah. But then you show me a male Draken who can at least be hunched over, and you decide "nah, bring the women back a bit, make them look more human again"? What? That's dumb.
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They're not really /rocks/ per se. They're silica-based organisms, which sure is different than being carbon-based, but they're living organisms all the same. On a molecular level, their physiology is different, but I'm guessing Carbine didn't consult scientists to work out the implications of that kind of thing. xD
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I love my Dommie toons :wub:  I have 6 of them.
 
I suppose this is why I think faction barriers on PvE servers are just silly. There is zero reason for anyone on PvE to 'hate' the 'other side'. I can certainly understand not wanting to play an Aurin or a Chua or whatever doesn't please one's personal aesthetic but the whole this or that race is 'dirty' or 'squirrels' or 'flea-ridden' is pretty absurd IMO, of course.  
 
I think the main reason I like the Exiles over the Dominion is the "You will obey' attitude that gets my hackles up a bit, but I just roll my eyes and move along. 
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Meh its not a uncommon issue in games though
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Also you the player get to chose the doctor who saved the Aurin's fate during her trial... Fancy that a trial!
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you mean like the Aurin will obey the matria? Or the Granok will obey Durek? Every faction has some form of heirarchy, and everyone "obeys" their superior officers / supervisors. This goes as much for the Exiles as it does the Dominon. Maybe you're confusing having laws and a real legal systemwith "obedience" ? I guess compared to the virtual anarchy of the Exiles having actual laws would seem stuffy.
 
With the doctor & the Aurin, you the player get to chose the doctor who saved the Aurin's fate during her trial... You can let her off easy or condemn her. Fancy that a trial! It's like they have a strict though robust and well maintained legal system to keep law and order in the Dominion... I would humbly suggest the faction that raises, slaughters and eats sapient and sentient organisms (quintessential people) might want to look into some laws of their own? At least maybe take a leaf out of the FDA's book and not eat people (is there a Veggie & soylent green joke in game yet? If not there needs to be....)
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Yeah I'm guessing they just pulled that "Lore" out of their collective butts, slapped it on a webpage and then just expected us to never think about it again.
 
I hate seeing holes in the tapestry. Makes me cranky.
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I meant like it's common to accept a quest and be told "that I must obey". Not some unspoken rules or hierarchy, hell, most people have bosses. I guess it's more like.... I wouldn't be friends with someone that was that condescending to me, particularly when I was helping them. 
 
Meh, it's really not that big a deal even if it seems that way  :P
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I mean, yeah, and that's a huge part of the problem. It's so.. it's such a copout. It's so lazy and uninnovative and the same.
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With the doctor & the Aurin, you the player get to chose the doctor who saved the Aurin's fate during her trial... You can let her off easy or condemn her. Fancy that a trial! It's like they have a strict though robust and well maintained legal system to keep law and order in the Dominion... I would humbly suggest the faction that raises, slaughters and eats sapient and sentient organisms (quintessential people) might want to look into some laws of their own? At least maybe take a leaf out of the FDA's book and not eat people (is there a Veggie & soylent green joke in game yet? If not there needs to be....)
 
One last thing about the Cassian Military Doctor and the Aurin. In U.S. Military law (10 U.S. Code § 904 - Art. 104. Aiding the enemy ), a U.S. soldier aiding the enemy: "shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct." 
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Pretty sure providing medical treatment to a wounded POW does not equate to "aiding the enemy" in US Military law. In fact, I'm fairly certain that is required by international law. And the "let her off easy" option was imprisonment for life.
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Pretty sure providing medical treatment to a wounded POW does not equate to "aiding the enemy" in US Military law. In fact, I'm fairly certain that is required by international law. And the "let her off easy" option was imprisonment for life.
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From the Geneva Convention:
 
"1. Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria."
 
"2. The wounded and sick shall be collected and cared for."
 
"Prisoners of war must at all times be humanely treated. Any unlawful act or omission by the Detaining Power causing death or seriously endangering the health of a prisoner of war in its custody is prohibited, and will be regarded as a serious breach of the present Convention. In particular, no prisoner of war may be subjected to physical mutilation or to medical or scientific experiments of any kind which are not justified by the medical, dental or hospital treatment of the prisoner concerned and carried out in his interest.
Likewise, prisoners of war must at all times be protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity
Measures of reprisal against prisoners of war are prohibited. "
 
"Taking into consideration the provisions of the present Convention relating to rank and sex, and subject to any privileged treatment which may be accorded to them by reason of their state of health, age or professional qualifications, all prisoners of war shall be treated alike by the Detaining Power, without any adverse distinction based on race, nationality, religious belief or political opinions, or any other distinction founded on similar criteria."
 
Granted this is the real world. However, I think it's clear that the standards for war - at least among the nations that abide by the Geneva Convention - are different in real life from those followed by the Dominion. At least in regard to the treatment of PoWs.	
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Remember, though, that the Geneva conventions are quite recent, dating at their earliest only to 1864, but really only being what you're thinking of from 1949.  1949!  And even the 1949 Geneva Convention was only ratified by 196 countries - which is to say only 196 countries recognize that those rules [should] apply to them, at least in so much that they will apologize afterward [reference that Doctors Without Borders incident mentioned above in the thread].  Those are NOT long-standing standards.  At most it is 150 years.
 
Compare that to the length of time throughout which human beings have been blowing each other up over someone else's dirt.  Given the length of "history" in the game setting, that would be a blink in the eye.
			
				
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Hey all just a friendly reminder to keep the conversation more on-topic and less political. :)
 
Thank you,
 
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Hey all just a friendly reminder to keep the conversation more on-topic and less political. :)
 
Thank you,
 
-Team WildStar
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Hey can we get a female draken in the next trailer, but this time it's favor for dominion dominating Exiles. A long black hair default skin draken at so the viewers can see the epic swooshness of her hair as she dominate her opponent.  Warrior or Stalker class at that ;)
 
Thanks :)
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Remember, though, that the Geneva conventions are quite recent, dating at their earliest only to 1864, but really only being what you're thinking of from 1949.  1949!  And even the 1949 Geneva Convention was only ratified by 196 countries - which is to say only 196 countries recognize that those rules [should] apply to them, at least in so much that they will apologize afterward [reference that Doctors Without Borders incident mentioned above in the thread].  Those are NOT long-standing standards.  At most it is 150 years.
 
Compare that to the length of time throughout which human beings have been blowing each other up over someone else's dirt.  Given the length of "history" in the game setting, that would be a blink in the eye.
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Hey can we get a female draken in the next trailer, but this time it's favor for dominion dominating Exiles. A long black hair default skin draken at so the viewers can see the epic swooshness of her hair as she dominate her opponent.  Warrior or Stalker class at that ;)
 
Thanks :)
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name here BigBooty Judy....or Thunderthighs Unite.
 
 
meh I tried to be funny B)
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One draken fan can dream :). Never hurt to try and at least they can think about it ;)
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Chill lol. Draken = Savage that happens to those designs.  Perfect name be Tinaka Bloodinz from the Bloodscales tribe.
 
 
One draken fan can dream :). Never hurt to try and at least they can think about it ;)
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This is what sold it for me for the exiles
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esfTS1pCAUU
 
and this   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNfUA1c_Zoo
 
That's pretty much what was needed to pin me onto that faction, no further motives, i still tend to just space out in Thayd and right outside of it in Galeras.	
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I would love to see a softer look at the dominion. The quests you do for lowborn or the "regular" people really just shows how much different the dommy is than they are portrayed. In Auroria for example, they are desperately trying to cure as many people from the plague as they can, highborn as well as lowborn, and a lot of the quests you do is to help the regular folk protect their farms or chase off exiles trying to kill them for no other reason than them being under dominion rule. There is no good or bad faction in this game. I was surprised on my mordesh when I wandered into an area to find a guy STABBED THROUGH THE HANDS to a notice board, with a poor human who cries helplessly for you to show the guy mercy and take him down. Before you do that, there is a couple people just stood there laughing at him suffering and cracking jokes. Oh! I actually took a SS of it... XD
 
 I'm not turning this into the good vs evil debate (there's an excellent one in the lore section of the forum) but really carbine, please stop showing the characters like Mondo, and start showing the awesome characters like Toric in the footage.
 
I am giving the exiles my interest now, I like the mordesh but they seem as screwed as the chua sometimes for their crazy evil experiments...
			
				
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Hey can we get a female draken in the next trailer, but this time it's favor for dominion dominating Exiles. A long black hair default skin draken at so the viewers can see the epic swooshness of her hair as she dominate her opponent.  Warrior or Stalker class at that ;)
 
Thanks :)
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Yeah I'm guessing they just pulled that "Lore" out of their collective butts, slapped it on a webpage and then just expected us to never think about it again.
 
I hate seeing holes in the tapestry. Makes me cranky.
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There is no good or bad faction in this game. I was surprised on my mordesh when I wandered into an area to find a guy STABBED THROUGH THE HANDS to a notice board, with a poor human who cries helplessly for you to show the guy mercy and take him down. Before you do that, there is a couple people just stood there laughing at him suffering and cracking jokes.
 
Oh! I actually took a SS of it... XD
 
 
 
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Hah! We'd love to help but sadly, that is not something we can do directly. We've forwarded your request to our team that handles that, though. ;)
 
-Team WildStar
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That was actually done by the Darkspur Cartel, who're terrorizing the town. You drive them out of the town and save the poor Exile civilians.
 
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Ah, shows how much attention I was paying to the storyline doesn't it :P
 
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Actually this is the beginning of a regional story line that explains it all, so if you finish that story line it really explains a lot more.  It's unclear if the Darkspur cartel came from one faction or the other it just seems they attack the Exiles more often.
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Actually this is the beginning of a regional story line that explains it all, so if you finish that story line it really explains a lot more.  It's unclear if the Darkspur cartel came from one faction or the other it just seems they attack the Exiles more often.
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			We have Chua, so Exiles need to overcompensate any way they can to match our awesomeness.	
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