116113-second-name-please-add-an-option-to-turn-it-off

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Essentially we were forced to choose a second name which fine nothing we can do about thats but please allow us to turn it off so all i see it ny First name. or Second name only 
 
please fix asap thanks 	
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			Not sure they will allow that. But would be cool if we could.	
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Agreed.
 
Went through the whole ordeal of the name reservation fiasco, and against all odds got the name I wanted.  Yay!  It was first-last name just crammed together since they didn't allow spaces at the time.  Not ideal, but oh well.
 
Today, try to separate the first and last name and nope, it's taken.  Wonderful.  They post a launch time, totally miss it by like 4+ hours, and whoever randomly tries to log in at the magic time gets their pick of names.  It's like the Devil himself devised this rollout. 
 
I assumed there was some logic behind not doing this in the first place, but apparently not since they just rolled out surnames now.  Why the *$%( wasn't it that way at launch? 
 
In a game with so many character customization options, individual housing, even mount appearance mods this incredibly screwed up naming system is just mind boggling.  If the rest of the game wasn't as top notch as it is I would probably bail over this. 	
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This
 
This every day of the week.
 
The idea is fine, but holy shit does it look terrible in game. Can you please think before doing this type of stuff with no option to turn it off?	
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			I agree with this, I like unique names and not a long name with a space ;p	
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			If identification worries the devs, they could do the ffxiv thing where you can do first name + surname initial, or first initial + surname, or both initials, to save on text clutter.	
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Really it's nothing but visual clutter and a fail on so many levels just to avoid name conflicts.  Shoulda done what other games did and add X's on conflicted names with a free rename for those characters.
 
Dead horse though.
 
And a QOL decrease since you have to /whisper the entire name and I already have someone in my guild with full 29 characters of nonsense that I have to look at and see in the raid frames later.	
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Really it's nothing but visual clutter and a fail on so many levels just to avoid name conflicts.  Shoulda done what other games did and add X's on conflicted names with a free rename for those characters.
 
Dead horse though.
 
And a QOL decrease since you have to /whisper the entire name and I already have someone in my guild with full 29 characters of nonsense that I have to look at and see in the raid frames later.
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If possibles please get this added asap also 
 
Suggestions
 
1 Hide second same 
2: Exile First name (Exile Garrett)
3: Exile Second Name (Exlie Shadow)
 
Await your feedback thanks!	
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			Keep this bumped guys let the Wildstar devs know they might give us the option to remove second name :)	
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			Not seeing how the surname is really that big a deal. It keeps name conflicts down indefinitely for most people...	
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			Wonder if it could be mod-able?	
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As long as I get to chose which name to turn off.
 
Owait you need both names to invite someone.
See I told you this wasn't a good idea Carbine.	
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Not seeing how the surname is really that big a deal. It keeps name conflicts down indefinitely for most people...
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Keep this bumped guys let the Wildstar devs know they might give us the option to remove second name :)
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people paid extra to get there name  at pre launch etc and now all thats undone by server merge  but no bigge just a little disheartning
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Yes, please let us have the option to turn it off.  The clutter is crap.    At a minimum I would want to have the option to turn it off on my display so I only see one name.   
 
Is there an option to turn off all player character names on your display? 	
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Nobody "paid extra" to get their name. People "paid extra" for some Eldan-themed swag.
 
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Just thought I'd put forward that that's not true at all =)
 
After the name reservation debacle and "losing my name", I chose a different name and waited anxiously, pelting the server over the requisite timeframe for them to finally unlock all of the name reservations. When they did, I discovered the name I had wanted was unlocked, I paid for a character rename (i.e. paid extra) to get my original name. It's likely a number of people did the same.
 
Had I wanted to walk around displaying a surname, I would have added the surname when I originally created the character =|
I throw my vote in for doing something about it =O
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Just thought I'd put forward that that's not true at all =)
 
After the name reservation debacle and "losing my name", I chose a different name and waited anxiously, pelting the server over the requisite timeframe for them to finally unlock all of the name reservations. When they did, I discovered the name I had wanted was unlocked, I paid for a character rename (i.e. paid extra) to get my original name. It's likely a number of people did the same.
 
Had I wanted to walk around displaying a surname, I would have added the surname when I originally created the character =|
I throw my vote in for doing something about it =O
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			If you're complaining about the clutter, then simply turn off nameplates DUH. 	
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A way for players to better manage the invite and whisper commands would be appreciated. Typing out gigantic names isnt really appealing for a game we want to play long term.
 
Other than that, an option for player nameplates to show/hide names via client side is a good idea that should be discussed. Raid frames and player nameplates are entirely too cluttering and unneccesary for player side gameplay. Hopefully devs can come up with something to keep the player id tag serverside while allowing us to alter the way we seem them on the clientside.	
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A way for players to better manage the invite and whisper commands would be appreciated. Typing out gigantic names isnt really appealing for a game we want to play long term.
 
Other than that, an option for player nameplates to show/hide names via client side is a good idea that should be discussed. Raid frames and player nameplates are entirely too cluttering and unneccesary for player side gameplay. Hopefully devs can come up with something to keep the player id tag serverside while allowing us to alter the way we seem them on the clientside.
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There is some discussion about an option to allow players to "hide" the second name in general, however it would show the full name on target or group windows for example.
There are challenges and questions that need to be answered first though, would this result in more griefing, impersonation etc?	
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Well this surname issue would surely provide more useless name clutter in raids/arenas/battlegrounds, so why not simply add some sort of unique account ID to avoid the dreadful action of typing 29 character names in /whisper or seeing them on raid frames. Sure some might have identical names but doesn't it work the same way in the real world? How many people are named John, Chris, etc. Furthermore, it would definitely encourage players to think of more unique names, not "Black Darkness", "Kill You" , etc. This account ID could be displayed on some sort of a tool tip when you hover over the player with your mouse, something similar to the account names in Guild Wars 2.Ex. <Account ID>.<unique sequence of numbers>
This is just off the top of my head but surely the devs can develop it further to work around this surname issue :)	
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Well this surname issue would surely provide more useless name clutter in raids/arenas/battlegrounds, so why not simply add some sort of unique account ID to avoid the dreadful action of typing 29 character names in /whisper or seeing them on raid frames. Sure some might have identical names but doesn't it work the same way in the real world? How many people are named John, Chris, etc. Furthermore, it would definitely encourage players to think of more unique names, not "Black Darkness", "Kill You" , etc. This account ID could be displayed on some sort of a tool tip when you hover over the player with your mouse, something similar to the account names in Guild Wars 2.
Ex. <Account ID>.<unique sequence of numbers>
This is just off the top of my head but surely the devs can develop it further to work around this surname issue :)
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			Yeah, I can see why the team would decide such a thing but that was just off the top of my head. The point I wanted to make was that if you do not want to force people to add surnames, it is best to find some sort of other ID method which will not be visible when you target, whisper or party with a player. I personally can live with surnames but seeing all the commotion I thought I'd put my two cents in on the subject at hand.	
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Agreed.
 
Went through the whole ordeal of the name reservation fiasco, and against all odds got the name I wanted. Yay! It was first-last name just crammed together since they didn't allow spaces at the time. Not ideal, but oh well.
 
Today, try to separate the first and last name and nope, it's taken. Wonderful. They post a launch time, totally miss it by like 4+ hours, and whoever randomly tries to log in at the magic time gets their pick of names. It's like the Devil himself devised this rollout. 
 
I assumed there was some logic behind not doing this in the first place, but apparently not since they just rolled out surnames now. Why the *$%( wasn't it that way at launch? 
 
In a game with so many character customization options, individual housing, even mount appearance mods this incredibly screwed up naming system is just mind boggling. If the rest of the game wasn't as top notch as it is I would probably bail over this.
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Essentially we were forced to choose a second name which fine nothing we can do about thats but please allow us to turn it off so all i see it ny First name. or Second name only 
 
please fix asap thanks
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errr...if you lived in the EU, it really wasn't optimal when the servers came back up.
 
I have to admit I was a bit miffed about the name reservation thing. I'm happy with the surname thing (I played gw1 and was always in favour of first and last names), but I was abit like "wait why wasn't my reserved name, reserved again?".
 
For example I reserved the name Salome. Until I got to use that name again. It should have been reserved again across the board and other people with the name Salome, should have had to wait for at least 24 hours. (although I actually went through all the servers and rolled a Salome character at launch. So for me their were no other Salome's to consider, however logged on, tried to change the name of my toon and someone already had the name I wanted for her) Really feels quite unfair after going through the name reservation debacle.
 
I haven't checked my reserved guild name yet but I swear if I lose that I will be unhappy. (as their should be no way I can lose it, what with the name being reserved across every server, til I used it; so no actual way to have an older guild with the same name)  I'll test that tonight. 	
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			Our deepest sympathies for our EU brethren.  As they say in 'Murica;  Neener, neener.	
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There is some discussion about an option to allow players to "hide" the second name in general, however it would show the full name on target or group windows for example.
There are challenges and questions that need to be answered first though, would this result in more griefing, impersonation etc?
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Is that what they say in 'Murica? I thought it was mostly "stop officer! don't shoot, im unarmed!"
 
;)	
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			I've suggested this previously, it didn't get much response.	
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I have little programming experience in a game setting, but would it be possible to add an autocomplete function to the chat window?  If I type "Mist" and use the up arrow to cycle through "Mister Rockdude", "Misty Rivertail" etc, would that make people happier? I suppose this would require a constant /who type datacall but... I'll let a more established coder explain the difficulties.
 
I disagree with the clutter reaction.  I hide titles and guilds so a second name doesn't bother me. I also disagree with calling it a "fail on so many levels".  I like seeing the creativity of some people's names, especially when it relates to the lore.  Sure, I find some names obnoxious too.
 
But the goal of adding the second name was to prevent or avoid duplicate names... which it clearly does (from a statistical pov). 	
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I GOT AN IDEA!  Speed dialing!
 
Let's say you can't change the names (that could be a colossal pain in the ass).  BUT, if someone is in your guild or friends list, you can actually tell your UI that they are something else.  So let's say Justin McLovinit is a friend of yours in your BG group.  You can tell the UI that Justin McLovinit will be JML (no spaces).  Then, everytime you /w JML or /invite JML, it automatically picks up that you're trying to invite Justin McLovinit.
 
I'm sure other Addons will handle turning all members of random parties into GroupTank, GroupHeals, and GroupDPS1 through GroupDPS3.  But for times when you will be whispering someone a lot or be in groups with them often, it might be nice to have a way to list all names in shorter forms that the UI will recognize.
 
Then you don't have to change the naming format or hide anything in the greater UI for functionality.  If for appearances' sake, you might be on your own.  Also, I can see having to institute a character to say you're using a speed dial.  Like Justin McLovinit might have to be ;JML or #JML.  I'm not sure if it's necessary because you could just ban the spaces in the speedialed names and thus the UI might know what it's looking for, but otherwise a single easily included character would be just as well for UI purposes.	
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There is some discussion about an option to allow players to "hide" the second name in general, however it would show the full name on target or group windows for example.
There are challenges and questions that need to be answered first though, would this result in more griefing, impersonation etc?
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Please!
 
+1	
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from: https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/29130-spaces-in-character-names/page-4&do=findComment&comment=1186140
 
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As for the name, yes you will be forced to choose a two words name separated by a single space. That decision is final and locked down at the moment, this shouldn't change before megaservers arrive. It doesn't mean that we are discarding feedback. Changes might always happen later on :)
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Personally I don't have a problem with this double name feature, but I will however request that IF it is decided that there will be an option to hide part of the name, that there will be a choice of hiding either first of last name, as for me my "name" is my last name, and as first name I'm using a "title".
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I have  a character called "The Choir", because no surname I could think of would work properly for her. Hiding the second name would mean her displayed name is "The". That would feel very silly.
 
However, screen clutter is a big deal for a lot of people, so options to hide either part of the name would be good. As long as we can get the full name on the chatbox and when clicking on them, there should be no problems, I believe.	
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			Hmmm. How about folks get to choose how others see their names, and the name expands when you mouse over the character, nameplate, or their name in chat? There could also be a personal view setting that minimizes names that haven't been manually shortened?	
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There has to be a solution somewhere in the middle here. When I logged in last night and gazed as my frames dropped to 2 in Spaceport Alpha I noticed someone speaking in Zone chat.
 
His name was FedusFetus MadDogTwentytwenty. Good on him, he got the name he always wanted, but the length is just hysterical. I have to resize my chat window just to fit some of these names in the damn box. 	
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			two name naming system is a flop, at the very least, make it easier with right mouse click options like /join /invite /ignore etc.	
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			I really want this option, its one giant cluster *cupcake* right now	
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			This is honestly a deal breaker for me. I know it might seem odd that something as simple as a naming system would make someone quit a game, but im at that point. Almost every other MMO that has a surname system has done it right. You can change whether or not to have JUST the first name, or first and last name. I only want to show one name when i play. The fact that there is not even an option completely baffles me. If there is not a fix to this soon i will for sure be unsubbing.	
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			I may be for some changes, but I guess I'm weird that I don't mind the two-name system.  I just don't think more functionality is necessarily a bad thing, so if people want more things to change their UI, so be it.  I haven't had any issues yet.	
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This is honestly a deal breaker for me. I know it might seem odd that something as simple as a naming system would make someone quit a game, but im at that point. Almost every other MMO that has a surname system has done it right. You can change whether or not to have JUST the first name, or first and last name. I only want to show one name when i play. The fact that there is not even an option completely baffles me. If there is not a fix to this soon i will for sure be unsubbing.
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Nobody paid for name reservations, though, and it's a common claim people make when they pre-order anything other than the standard edition and wind up having to change their name.
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It was advertised as part of the promotional deal for pre-ordering. That counts. By pre-ordering, you were in part paying (early) for a name reservation.
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I reckon people tend to look at this as a bonus, but the fact is, it might have made some people pre-order, which is a big deal.
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But, they paid exactly the same they would have whether they preordered or not. So they did NOT pay for the name reservation. They merely gave the same amount of money a little bit earlier.
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But, they paid exactly the same they would have whether they preordered or not. So they did NOT pay for the name reservation. They merely gave the same amount of money a little bit earlier.
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