112503-why-i-stopped-playing-wildstar

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Nice article by a raider: http://www.gamezone.com/originals/2014/09/03/why-i-stopped-playing-wildstar
 
 
Mirror if the site is temporarily dead: http://naofo.de/1b9d	
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I just logged off the PTR after several 3v3 arena matches and I won't be playing after this drop comes.
 
Yes, yes ti's a test server, but they've never patched the PTR with class changes after they post the notes, no reason for them fix what they fixed I guess , ever if it's broke.	
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" Many of us saw WildStar as a chance to get the band back together. "
 
Haha this is probably the most apt analogy to how many oldschool folks saw Wildstar that I've ever read.
Nice one. :)	
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Sadly, I too just cancelled my sub.  Exact same reasons.  Plus one:
 
The vitriolic, nasty community.  (I know I should have rolled Evindra but I wanted pvp, so I rolled Pergo)
 
Soon everyone will be subjected to it.  Server merge, it's sad, necessary but damn, the people... ugh.
 
 
(This does not apply to the forum posters, it's always been a remarkably civil, courteous community (for the most part ;-) here.	
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			Great article/post. Carbine needs to pay heed to this. For the love of the game, it must!	
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			Well written article.	
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			I can't read it! Takes me to a dead page.	
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Really nice article. I didnt understand some of the griefs some people were writing on the general forum. After reading the article i can say that now i understand them pretty well. Especially the tiime sink this game have before you even start thinking of raiding. 
 
This article help me understand my fellow players on this forum so a big thanks for the link boni.  :)	
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			I've been the hardcore raider. I'm really not anymore. Not in as far as time sink goes. I want fun things to do outside of raiding and daily quests are the worst thing ever put into MMO's. They create a sense of "I must do this and get it out of the way" everytime I log in. I want to log in and do what I feel like doing. Please refrain from the "no one if forcing you do it" argument. It doesn't hold up. Dailies aren't designed to be fun or as optional, they are tied into reward people need to adavance their characters.	
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			what reward? I don't do dailies nor do I feel I have to at all.	
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I've been the hardcore raider. I'm really not anymore. Not in as far as time sink goes. I want fun things to do outside of raiding and daily quests are the worst thing ever put into MMO's. They create a sense of "I must do this and get it out of the way" everytime I log in. I want to log in and do what I feel like doing. Please refrain from the "no one if forcing you do it" argument. It doesn't hold up. Dailies aren't designed to be fun or as optional, they are tied into reward people need to adavance their characters.
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For anyone who came from WoW, let me take you back to when MoP came out.  Never have I felt so helpless in a game as when I hit 90.  The amount of dailies, the requirement to unlock this reputation before you can start the dailies for this reputation.  Also being required to cap valor because you couldn't by your BiS gear from the rep vendors for gold, it felt like three different time sinks to do one thing.
 
Look at Wildstar, the elder gem system allows everyone to work towards something by doing almost anything.  When I did battlegrounds in WoW it did nothing for me when it came to getting geared for raids.  They forced us to grind rep through dailies (no more tabard rep from dungeons).
 
I understand you max out your EG much faster when running dailies, but you can easily do it by casually running bg's or adventures/dungeons.  I haven't played other MMO's except ESO (which don't even get me started on that, leveling again after hitting 50 in another factions zone to get Vet levels, you must be kidding) but I feel I can do whatever I want in this game and I will be moving towards something in relation to PvP, PvE, housing and crafting.
 
Once the AMP/Ability point changes come there will be a lot more freedom.  As of right now that is the main reason I feel I need to cap out (the gold I get after for XP is nice as well.  Hey, look at that, you even get extra money for doing almost anything in game.	
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			Nibblin is probably the most correct one here that was willing to type out a big response :P you aren't forced to do dailies/eg cap in any way that I can see unless you PvP/PvE and want extra LAS. And no, FFXIV dailies are junk just like all dailies, just stop trying.	
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Dailies are poor and lazy game design. If they exist, they grow, they continue to grow. They will be continually added throughout the games life.
 
Please don't be obtuse.	
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As much as I wan't to like the bad lalafall RP Zombie put on... I Have to agree with Naix. No need to do any of the dailies in W* if you don't want to.
 
Heck you can cap weekly EP's by AoE grinding mobs for a few hours; let alone BG's, PvE content / other stuff.
 
While many dailies are a bore/chore,
 
Daily events / dynamic quests can be super fun. If we could have one for the world bosses; and then some dynamic events as dailies that would be sweet.. TBH, the stuff in Defile is looking pretty bad @$$. I feel no need to run dailies, and generally don't (except my Eldan data daily); and still am satisfied with all the content. I do have a little weakness for running Ely and the Tree from time to time (I find them both fun). but YMMV.	
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So whose fault is it? The guy who still thinks he's a rock star or the company that tries to cater to him? I say both.
 
No sympathy for the people who demanded to open the gates of AQ again. If you can't figure out that you're an adult with responsibilities now, too bad. You wanted a prohibitively grindy experience, and that's what you got. Boo hoo.	
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 This was well written and shares they way i feel as well...
 
Im gonna see how the drop 3 hits and if its a disapointment ill probably look for another game to hook up with preferably one that got the dye and costume system right.. The 3 months spent here feels like its been 3 years.. It was great at first but the rain came in fast on the party for many and for the very reason i had pointed out before.. its the little things that can erode your enjoyment of the game.
 
Its sad actually because we can all agree that this game had the most potential and yet like all the other mmos that have come and gone..it was the lack of common sense foresight on simple things that ended up becoming the achilles heal.
 
Honestly i think the days of new mmo theme parks are starting to come to an end.	
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			I hope every one at Carbine management reads this.  Few times over.	
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Yeah. Someone REALLY needs to link this article in a Tweet to Frost.
 
Then link the cartoon in my signature.
 
Maybe it'll sink in.	
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Yeah. Someone REALLY needs to link this article in a Tweet to Frost.
 
Then link the cartoon in my signature.
 
Maybe it'll sink in.
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I love CAD but not so much recently. That comic was gold though and Tim's write up on WS is telling and I think hits on a lot of sentiments I am seeing. Those of us who were the hardcore end game people during EQ and DaoC and even WoW are getting older and we've changed a bit on what hardcore really means. It used to mean TIME! Now we just want challenging content we can do without disowning our family or getting disowned by them.
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I love CAD but not so much recently. That comic was gold though and Tim's write up on WS is telling and I think hits on a lot of sentiments I am seeing. Those of us who were the hardcore end game people during EQ and DaoC and even WoW are getting older and we've changed a bit on what hardcore really means. It used to mean TIME! Now we just want challenging content we can do without disowning our family or getting disowned by them.
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That's not something that responsible, mature adults do. In fact, anyone who has ever traded a real life for a video game, probably got exactly what they deserved - a hollow, pale existence. 
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I also met my wife on-line, but not through gaming.
 
That came after we met. She was an avid WoW player and I mocked her for it.
 
So she got me a subscription, the *cupcake*.   :D  :lol:
 
That was almost a decade ago. We quit gaming once the kids got older. I still gamed on the side, but she took up knitting. Wildstar is the first game in 3-4 years that we've played together.	
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I also met my wife on-line, but not through gaming.
 
That came after we met. She was an avid WoW player and I mocked her for it.
 
So she got me a subscription, the *cupcake*.   :D  :lol:
 
That was almost a decade ago. We quit gaming once the kids got older. I still gamed on the side, but she took up knitting. Wildstar is the first game in 3-4 years that we've played together.
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