123653-insanely-good-game-but-marketing

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Why is there no marketing effort for this game?
 
I had to find out after complaining how WoW is heading the wrong way (making everything easier and easier) on in Orgrimmar and someone whispered that: "Yeah, WoW is not what it once was but at least there are people playing it."
 
"What do you mean?" I responded.
 
"Well, Wildstar is awesome, but has no people playing it so..."
 
And that's how I found out about Wildstar!
 
I logged out right away and came to try Wildstar. Been playing ever since. However, once I hit the capital I notieced... there are 17 people on the entire realm? (Luminai, EU). I did the /who command and only found 17 people.
 
It is completely and utterly 100% silent and dead.
 
Why is there no outside marketing effort for this game?
 
It's a crazy good game and has EVERYTHING I wanted in WoW, and then some... but people don't know about it.	
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As much as I hate to say this and I will probably get wrecked by Luminae players for not being EU(primarily) and because me mentioning this is kind of...hurtful to Luminae. You may want to consider transferring to Jabbit which while it is PvE has open arms for more PvP oriented players and pretty sure they try to arrange for pvp stuff to happen as well. From what I understand it is the same situation as NA and so Jabbit is the go to server since world pvp isn't really that important and can and does occur on the PvE server.
 
Now as for advertising from what I know and can tell Carbine wants to put off a an all out advertising campaign until they get things straightened out. The PvE side is on the right track now, but PvP needs some serious help, which has dettered or caused some people who lean more toward or like a mix of the two aspects to leave. Right now best thing you can do is tell your friends, family, gaming communities of the things you love about Wildstar and even direct them to the free trial which has gotten a bit of attention.
 
free trial link here:
https://www.wildstar-online.com/en/freetrial/
 
Also let them know about Drop 5 incoming next as well:
http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/news/2015-03-12-wildstars-next-big-update-invasion-nexus/	
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The problem you're encountering with population is purely because of the server you happened to choose to start on. Jabbit-EU as I'm aware has a very strong population. They offer free transfers to the PvE server, so I would recommend taking it on over.
 
The people who tell you the game is empty are incredibly wrong, it's actually quite lively! It's just the PvP servers on both sides of the world that are low pop. However, I do agree, Wildstar could have used and could still use a hell of a lot more marketing to get the word out.	
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Move to Jabbit :(
 
We tried to keep on Lumi as long as possible (the pvp population) but it was unsustainable. If you move to jabbit it is a light and day difference.
 
The game is not empty, you will come to this server and feel like people are squished into it :P
 
If you are dominion and looking for a friendly guild who partakes in everything the game has to offer, give anyone at omnomnompotato a call. We're the go to for PvP groups dom side too :)
 
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Backstory to the servers so it's easier for you to understand. 
At EU launch there was 5 servers, 2pvp, 2pve and 1rp-pve. The queuetimes for the game was so large that carbine launched additional pve and pvp servers to split the population onto and reduce queuetimes.
The overflow servers eventually lost the amount of new players as people flocked onto other servers to find raiding guilds. Leaving the majority of smaller servers in the same state Luminai is in today. Carbine had been developing mega server technology and released it, combining all the pvp and pve servers into one of each (Luminai for pvp and Jabbit for pve)
During this time, carbine made the stupid decision to open transfers up from pvp to pve, and that way ONLY. Leaving bigger guilds who wanted to secure their roster with only one option to be able to recruit everyone (Accesable from all servers, from pvp > pve, and from people on pve)
During this time, people flocked after the large guild and there was so much doomsaying both on the forums and in game, it was awful. Eventually guild by guild people left until there were only about 5 guilds on each side for Luminai.
With less people the server got harder to maintain, we made events and tried to keep the economy alive, but with the lack of players (most of them had moved to jabbit) and more and more people leaving, we found it very difficult.
About a month ago, the two last international guilds The unknowns (for exile) and Potato (dommie) finally switched to Jabbit. It's ocmpletely different here, the game is very alive.
 
We want to be able to transfer back to the pvp servers eventually, but carbine will have to do something about it. It's only something that the players could do to some point...
 
But wildstar is a great game, but through bad choices all the population is shoved into one space :p	
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Unfortunately the population is on Jabbit.
 
Not much we can do about populations until WildStar has a mass resurgence of player base.
 
Once that happens I wanna move back to a PVP server and crack more skulls, but for now the PVE servers are where the population is.	
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So basically everyone here is telling me the exact same thing: Move to Jabbit.
 
Here's the thing: That's the last thing I would want to do. No open world PvP for me means no gaming. It's beyond me why anyone in their right mind would want to take away a big chunk of the game and lock themselves in their cosy little nice no PvP flag.
 
That's not how the world works. That's not how the game should be. There is absolutely no reason for anyone not to attack me when I'm out and about, or for me not to attack anyone.
 
That's why we have different factions.
 
I love the adrenaline rush when meeting an opposite faction player. I love the split second evaluation. I love how we both stop and look at each other and either pass-by or kill one another. I love ganking low-level players.
 
Taking a huge, huge part of the game away just because 'Jabbit has more people' is not a solution. A PvP server is the only way to go in an MMO, otherwise... why the hell am I even playing such a game in the first place? I might as well go... I don't know, play Call of Duty or something.
 
I don't know why someone would prefer a pure PvE server over a PvP one. This surely isn't the norm in the world's biggest such game (WoW) where PvP servers are prefered, so I'd like to keep my reservations on why would people prefer it.
 
I see those who play on purely PvE servers as soccer moms who need everything to be in order, 100% of the time and everything to be safe 100%.
 
I find no fun in playing a game that is either easy or safe. That's the first and biggest reason why I'm here and not in WoW anymore. Because WoW became easy - and safe. What's wrong with that? Boring and unchallenging.
 
I'd rather just have Wildstar invest more in marketing and make people at least try the game. I'm completely ashamed and disappointed I found out about such a great game in a WoW chat.	
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Trust me hun, those were the reasons that kept my whole guild on Luminai. But we could not stay there, there was no economy, noone to group up with, noone to gank itself. Running around with pvp flag was not dangerous or exciting at all... it was just empty and depressing. it made the game feel depressing and bad.
 
I hate the fact I'm on a pve server, it makes me really sad whenever I'm out in the open world. But staying on Luminai was sacrificing my guild's chance of growing and making pvp have a bigger fanbase and more popular.
 
If carbine had of actually changed things when they had the chance to, it would not be like this. Hazak, which was a pvp server, was the biggest eu server since beta... all the way til the megaserver change...
 
Trust me, if I could go on luminai and fix it I would.
 
If you were here 3-4 months ago, and you could see how much people fought, and how ignored we got, you would understand why we moved to Jabbit. It was the only way to continue to enjoy the game (this is coming from person who has not only suffered one dead megaserver on wildstar but one dead server before that as well..)
 
I am not on Pve because I'm a soccer mom who needs everything to be safe, I am here because it's the only way to recruit people for my guild, to make my rbg team and warplot team stronger, to promote a better pvp ethic on dominion side, to keep competitive (try runing your gear when there is literally nothing on the cx or auction house)
 
I fought very hard for my server to be saved. The server you are on now, the server my alts are on, and the server I consider to be my home. And I am telling you now, to enjoy the game and be with a guild you have to be on Jabbit. If you want to gank people, stay on luminai, but you wont be able to do it very often if at all.
 
If I could move our guild back to the server and have a perfect economy I would. If there was reasons to go back, we would.
 
I don't think you understand how hard the people who stayed on that server tried. My friends quit because of it... I almost quit because of it..
 
Carbine massively screwed up the pvp servers and they need to do something about it. Soon.
 
Don't snap at us because we're trying to help you, you don't understand what happened to make the pvp server what it is today...	
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So basically everyone here is telling me the exact same thing: Move to Jabbit.
 
Here's the thing: That's the last thing I would want to do. No open world PvP for me means no gaming. It's beyond me why anyone in their right mind would want to take away a big chunk of the game and lock themselves in their cosy little nice no PvP flag.
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			NCSoft hasn't done jack, and neither has CS. They sometimes do sales and now the 10 day free trials (used to only be sent out to prior subs, and 10 day? Should be to level X, maybe 40 or something.) But I've never seen ads or real social media pushes. It's kinda sad really. Then to add on to all of it, the lack of a positive spin presence and problems with the game have led to terrible word of mouth, which is incredibly damaging. 	
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			Indeed. The marketing really needs some work. It's a shame, imo this game is far better than WoW, but no one knows about it.	
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Why is there no marketing effort for this game?
 
I had to find out after complaining how WoW is heading the wrong way (making everything easier and easier) on in Orgrimmar and someone whispered that: "Yeah, WoW is not what it once was but at least there are people playing it."
 
"What do you mean?" I responded.
 
"Well, Wildstar is awesome, but has no people playing it so..."
 
And that's how I found out about Wildstar!
 
I logged out right away and came to try Wildstar. Been playing ever since. However, once I hit the capital I notieced... there are 17 people on the entire realm? (Luminai, EU). I did the /who command and only found 17 people.
 
It is completely and utterly 100% silent and dead.
 
Why is there no outside marketing effort for this game?
 
It's a crazy good game and has EVERYTHING I wanted in WoW, and then some... but people don't know about it.
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			Another question is how is this game doing financially? im reading on the swtor forums (Not sure what that says about this information) that wildstar is doing very poorly in financial terms. I am completely uneducated in wildstars current situation right now (like on how the wildstar developer staff is doing and in as stated before, moneywise.) As a very recently returned member of the game I would like to know the truth of the matter.	
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Another question is how is this game doing financially? im reading on the swtor forums (Not sure what that says about this information) that wildstar is doing very poorly in financial terms. I am completely uneducated in wildstars current situation right now (like on how the wildstar developer staff is doing and in as stated before, moneywise.) As a very recently returned member of the game I would like to know the truth of the matter.
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			They are not making alot of money, however they are still turning a profit it seems.	
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Here's the thing: That's the last thing I would want to do. No open world PvP for me means no gaming. It's beyond me why anyone in their right mind would want to take away a big chunk of the game and lock themselves in their cosy little nice no PvP flag.
 
That's not how the world works. That's not how the game should be. There is absolutely no reason for anyone not to attack me when I'm out and about, or for me not to attack anyone.
 
That's why we have different factions.
 
I love the adrenaline rush when meeting an opposite faction player. I love the split second evaluation. I love how we both stop and look at each other and either pass-by or kill one another. I love ganking low-level players.
 
Taking a huge, huge part of the game away just because 'Jabbit has more people' is not a solution. A PvP server is the only way to go in an MMO, otherwise... why the hell am I even playing such a game in the first place? I might as well go... I don't know, play Call of Duty or something.
 
I don't know why someone would prefer a pure PvE server over a PvP one. This surely isn't the norm in the world's biggest such game (WoW) where PvP servers are prefered, so I'd like to keep my reservations on why would people prefer it.
 
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			Mkting was great even more than Skyforge that is currently CBT and packed, Wildstar had their own weekly show RIP Frost long gone, What destroyed them were the bugs glitches and 2 many servers	
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So basically everyone here is telling me the exact same thing: Move to Jabbit.
 
Here's the thing: That's the last thing I would want to do. No open world PvP for me means no gaming. It's beyond me why anyone in their right mind would want to take away a big chunk of the game and lock themselves in their cosy little nice no PvP flag.
 
That's not how the world works. That's not how the game should be. There is absolutely no reason for anyone not to attack me when I'm out and about, or for me not to attack anyone.
 
That's why we have different factions.
 
I love the adrenaline rush when meeting an opposite faction player. I love the split second evaluation. I love how we both stop and look at each other and either pass-by or kill one another. I love ganking low-level players.
 
Taking a huge, huge part of the game away just because 'Jabbit has more people' is not a solution. A PvP server is the only way to go in an MMO, otherwise... why the hell am I even playing such a game in the first place? I might as well go... I don't know, play Call of Duty or something.
 
I don't know why someone would prefer a pure PvE server over a PvP one. This surely isn't the norm in the world's biggest such game (WoW) where PvP servers are prefered, so I'd like to keep my reservations on why would people prefer it.
 
I see those who play on purely PvE servers as soccer moms who need everything to be in order, 100% of the time and everything to be safe 100%.
 
I find no fun in playing a game that is either easy or safe. That's the first and biggest reason why I'm here and not in WoW anymore. Because WoW became easy - and safe. What's wrong with that? Boring and unchallenging.
 
I'd rather just have Wildstar invest more in marketing and make people at least try the game. I'm completely ashamed and disappointed I found out about such a great game in a WoW chat.
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