Report 771

Report #771
Skillset: Loralaria Skill: Aureolinaubade
 Org: Symphonium Status: Completed Feb 2012
Furies' Decision:
We will implement solution 3.
Problem: Aureonlinaubade, a low stanza, targetted song, currently gives Lust,
with daydreaming if gemmed. The skill has a couple problems, the first being
that it is low stanza targetted, so it is useless, because no bard wants to
refrain their song during low stanzas. Secondly, Lust is needed for
SkySforzando, our Aeon skill, which is high stanza, so getting the Lust to stick
until that skill is nearly impossible for Glamours users, while a bit easier for
Tarot users, due to the Lust card.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #1: Have AureolinAubade be a passive lust, which when
 ungemmed, has a 10% chance of hitting, and 20% when
 gemmed.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #2: Change AureolinAubade to be similar to VioletVibrato,
 which gives passive afflictions. However, make
 AureolinAubade give either lust, or afflictions, such
 as this: lust/peaced/pacifism/lovers and other
 related afflictions. Have the skill do 1 if
 ungemmed, and have a chance to do 2 if gemmed, like
 VioletVibrato.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #3: 15% chance of lust when ungemmed, and chance at
 peaced (same chance as it has now with daydreaming)
 if gemmed.
Player Comments:
---[Enyalida on 1/25 @ 00:23 writes]:
Low stanza targeted songs really do seem like a problem. I'd prefer Sol.1 or 3,
but 2 isn't bad.
---[Elana on 1/31 @ 16:30 writes]:
I'm personally not incredibly keen on having passive lust, even more so
considering how many guilds rely heavily on enemy/friend status. Combine the
passive lust with a love potion and you can pretty much waltz into a mage's
demesne and not have to worry about it at all. While I do understand the problem
with having to refrain at low stanzas to pull lust off and how it makes the
ability rather useless, I am not too happy with either of the offered solutions.
Probably be a better solution if the stanza level was moved up to Mid or even
High instead.
---[Morshoth on 2/1 @ 15:32 writes]:
The thing you have to think about is that it would be passive lust (at a
percentage) that only works when not deaf. And as for moving it, nobody wants
to lessen the amount of low stanza songs we have, plus, lust is so easily gotten
rid of that it shouldn't be high stanza. Also, in all honesty, most bards still
only ever have one targeted stanza in their song, as having to quiet about
refrain for two songs while trying to do ANYTHING else makes things even more
difficult.
---[Enyalida on 2/1 @ 19:10 writes]:
I'll agree with Morshoth. It would be passive lust that only really effects the
bard's current target, and stacking it with love potion has a decent chance of
backfiring for the bard. I don't really like the idea of switching it to a
higher stanza either, without swapping something else down into low stanza. This
suggestion is to make this pheremones lite lite, with an easier method of
stopping it. While obnoxious, lust is also only really a weapon for a bard
against a single archetype set (druids/mages). Believe me, I know how stupidly
annoying it can be, but that begs a fix for lust, and dosn't justify a low
stanza targeted song that has essentially (none, if you use tarot) no effect.
---[Ushaara on 2/2 @ 18:08 writes]:
Solutions 2 or 3 supported.
---[Alacardael on 2/4 @ 06:38 writes]:
Solution 1 or 3, but leaning on 1 more.
---[Alacardael on 2/4 @ 06:52 writes]:
Actually, a clarificaton: is the requested passive lust be bidirectional (going
both ways, a la love potion) or one-way (a la Psychometabolism Pheromones)?
---[Draylor on 2/4 @ 13:52 writes]:
Yeah. Having this as a low stanza targeted is far from helping. I would be happy
with sol. 1 or 3 for this
---[Sidd on 2/7 @ 01:06 writes]:
I understand and agree with the problem, but I don't agree with any of the
solutions. 1) It isn't hard to keep your target blanknoted, 2) lust requires a
4sec of eq loss to reject (which it's necessary to reject to avoid the
aeon/stun) which having to be off-eq 4 secs every 10 secs is pretty powerful
(worse case scenario). 4) love doesn't fire that often and has the double-edge
sword effect (which actually can be avoided by bards as the cost of positive
song effects). Love also can be stopped a variety of ways (blindness, forced
choleric sips etc). It really just seems like it's really powerful. If anything,
I'd say lower the percentages in solution 1 to 10% and 20% gemmed.
---[Shuyin on 2/8 @ 06:32 writes]:
Solution 1 works
---[Viynain on 2/8 @ 06:56 writes]:
Solution 1.
---[Neos on 2/9 @ 18:54 writes]:
Not a big fan of any of the solutions, but Solution 1 is the least disliked.
---[Shedrin on 2/11 @ 04:30 writes]:
Though I'd prefer if LoralAria skills require something other than Lust, but if
that's not the direction you're wanting to go, then either Solution 1 or 3 is
fine.
---[Llandros on 2/14 @ 22:37 writes]:
Why not just make this give the passive affs you mentioned and then change
SkySforzando so that if you use it on an unlusted target that it lust them for
no power cost but a long eq. Seems like that would be the easiest solution and
it won't turn Loralaria into something sketchy with a creepy passive lust song.
---[Morshoth on 2/16 @ 16:57 writes]:
I actually don't mind Llandros's suggestion either.