122351-far-trader-kigo-what-did-people-get-from-him

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			I'm curious to see what drops from this Lopp's boxes.	
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			I've opened two of the hoppers of hued hardware and gotten an ilevel 58 blue item with 2 rune slots both times.	
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			From one of the 15ppp bags, I just got a Sign of Fusion-Eldan and a Fusion slot Fusion Blast Rune of Critical.	
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Two examples for you
 	
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			So all those are from 15 patterns exchange ? I guess it should be better with those at 30 hopefully...	
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			The ones I posted are from the 30 pattern bag.	
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			I got a blue item as well and I'm not impressed.	
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			Yeah... The items don't seem to be worth the 2-3 plat you could make by just selling the patterns on the CX.	
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			I got an ichorous orange dye from the 15PPP bag.	
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Lopps...  ^_^
 
They take your shinies and give ya trinkets, charms, glass beads for it...	
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...sort of like a gamblebox you can pay for with ppp's, which you can buy with gold, which you can buy with cash.
 
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
 
Snuck that one right past all of us, didn't you. Well played, Carbine. Well played.	
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Does not sound like it's worth it at all. I'm sure that in a month or two we'll get people reporting some very rare but very valuable uber loot. Like those super-fast mounts or something like that. That will keep a lot of the gamblers busy selling CREDD so they can get the uber-loot from that bag. Or that's what I'm expecting anyway.
 
 
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...sort of like a gamblebox you can pay for with ppp's, which you can buy with gold, which you can buy with cash.
 
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			Sqeeeee!!!  Last night from the Vessel of Various Valuables(15ppp bag), I got Supernova White dye :D	
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Sqeeeee!!!  Last night from the Vessel of Various Valuables(15ppp bag), I got Supernova White dye :D
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I'm sure that in a month or two we'll get people reporting some very rare but very valuable uber loot. Like those super-fast mounts or something like that. 
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			There is apparently a very small chance of getting a single-use BoP ability point from the 15ppp bag, and also a very small chance of getting an ilevel 63 BoP purple with randomized stats from the 30ppp bag.	
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Given that PPPs are extremely common (they're a common reward from vet shiphands) I don't mind the small chance of getting the top prizes. But the gear drops don't always match the class of the character opening the bag:
 
 
This is clearly a Stalker, and those are clearly healer Medic boots. Tank Stalkers use Deflect, but the lack of Tech and presence of Focus Recovery mark these as Medic. Stalkers and Medics don't use the same gear, guys! :P If you're going to give gear that isn't usable by the character that got it, don't make it BoP!	
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Given that PPPs are extremely common (they're a common reward from vet shiphands) I don't mind the small chance of getting the top prizes. But the gear drops don't always match the class of the character opening the bag:
 
This is clearly a Stalker, and those are clearly healer Medic boots. Tank Stalkers use Deflect, but the lack of Tech and presence of Focus Recovery mark these as Medic. Stalkers and Medics don't use the same gear, guys! :P If you're going to give gear that isn't usable by the character that got it, don't make it BoP!
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You are missing the point of these bags, I can tell.  :lol:
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I have turned in and received about 12 hoppers since the patch.
 
From the 12 I received 2 purples.  One of the purples was a healing support item that had better stats than GA gear.  THe other purple was shoulders and they had terrible stats.
 
A guildie of mine actually received an Orange legendary weapon attachment...so it is possible.	
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Also weapon has a glow effect.	
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This came from a 15 pattern box! It's BoP and only works once, but for 15 patterns I wouldn't be upset at it dropping again.	
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This came from a 15 pattern box! It's BoP and only works once, but for 15 patterns I wouldn't be upset at it dropping again.
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hmm. these boxes are fishy.
 
looks like some kind of testing prior to full scaled invasion.
 
a little bit of paranoia is always good :)	
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			i got black hole dye from the 15ppp bag	
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			People keep going on and on about legendary gear dropping from these....... until i actually see either first hand or from a screenshot. Not from hearing about my grandmothers, uncles, brother,s pet dogs, vet assistant that got a legendary to drop from one, im calling shenanigans.	
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People keep going on and on about legendary gear dropping from these....... until i actually see either first hand or from a screenshot. Not from hearing about my grandmothers, uncles, brother,s pet dogs, vet assistant that got a legendary to drop from one, im calling shenanigans.
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People keep going on and on about legendary gear dropping from these....... until i actually see either first hand or from a screenshot. Not from hearing about my grandmothers, uncles, brother,s pet dogs, vet assistant that got a legendary to drop from one, im calling shenanigans.
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People keep going on and on about legendary gear dropping from these....... until i actually see either first hand or from a screenshot. Not from hearing about my grandmothers, uncles, brother,s pet dogs, vet assistant that got a legendary to drop from one, im calling shenanigans.
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Anyone knows the prefix for orange items ?
 
So far Azure is for blues, and Mauve is for purples (I hope everyone sees the trend).
I should have screenshotted, a few days ago, that orange one someone linked in a circle I'm part of, but alas I didn't.	
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A guildie got an orange from the 30PPP box.
Sadly he is a Stalker, and the item was BoP for medics, so he salvaged it.
Classic Carbino.	
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A guildie got an orange from the 30PPP box.
Sadly he is a Stalker, and the item was BoP for medics, so he salvaged it.
Classic Carbino.
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Anyone knows the prefix for orange items ?
 
So far Azure is for blues, and Mauve is for purples (I hope everyone sees the trend).
I should have screenshotted, a few days ago, that orange one someone linked in a circle I'm part of, but alas I didn't.
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Did some searching on Jabbithole, and it looks like the items are Titian (something) of Capriciousness. Example:
 
http://www.jabbithole.com/items/titian-equalizers-of-capriciousness-51486	
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Did some searching on Jabbithole, and it looks like the items are Titian (something) of Capriciousness. Example:
 
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A guildie got an orange from the 30PPP box.
Sadly he is a Stalker, and the item was BoP for medics, so he salvaged it.
Classic Carbino.
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And no tank weapon :(	
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			The 15 pattern exchange has given me 3x runic flux and some random runes. Pretty decent when you got nothing to use them for	
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I might give them to my alts them which im leveling...
But yeah an Account bound setting would be great.	
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... So basically, this is the way that Carbine decided to make Legendary gear available to those who don't raid?
By sticking it in a gamblebox with <1% odds, which still uses RNGs to determine class and stats so that getting something useful is far less likely? 
Soulbound so that if you don't get something you can use, you have to salvage or vendor it?
Power levels up to that seen in drops in Datascape?
 
 :lol: Wow. I see the new business model is full-on whale-hunting. Looks like it's time to move to a CREDD-based sub and stop paying cash for a sub in a game with a F2P dynamic.	
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... So basically, this is the way that Carbine decided to make Legendary gear available to those who don't raid?
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Yes and its pretty bad.
 
The end.
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Rumours, super-low RNG rewards, anomalies that seem to make no sense...
Perfect for discovery! Exploration! Individualism!	
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			I've gotten runic flux from it.	
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After opening around 20 bags(around a third of them dropped purples), I finally got a legendary for my esper
 	
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After opening around 20 bags(around a third of them dropped purples), I finally got a legendary for my esper
 
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Yeah it was the 30 pattern bag, Orange ilvl 68 is GA Token gear and ohmna drops.
This piece actually has sligtly better stat distribution than the Token piece, but 1 less rune slot	
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			Hmmm one less rune slot... Thanks for pointing this out, it does have its importance...	
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Those were the 30 patterns bag I guess ?
 
Also, orange ilvl 68 is what ? Omnha lvl loot or entry DS or late DS ? I'm guessing end of GA, but not sure...
 
Also what I wonder is : are Azure or Mauve sets anything special costume/look wise ?
I heard (or read in that thread) that Titian weapon had a special glow right ? Making them unique look wise ?
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First how do you add pictures to the the forum like you did?
 
and second i opened 3 of those crates saw orange and got excited and of course like in all of Carbines RNG related fiascos got severely disappointed.
 
Attached in the link is the ridiculous orange PoS I got.
http://postimg.org/image/hf0545mlh/
 	
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First how do you add pictures to the the forum like you did?
 
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			thank you!	
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			Looked at the costumes with http://www.curse.com/ws-addons/wildstar/228438-itemfinder. Sadly both light, medium and heavy got fairly common costumes, and its the same costume for blue, purple and orange	
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Ohmna level. DS entry loot is iLvl 73. The legendaries you get from these are almost as good as what drops off Ohmna, with Ohmna gear just barely being better. Worth it if you're not a regular raider.
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:lol:
 
So after 20 boxes at 30 PPPs each, a single legendary drop that has RNGs for both class and stats. And by the way, Jabbithole is now up to 40 of these boxes with no legendaries pulled, so the 1/20 is very likely an overestimate of the drop rate for legendaries from these things.
 
Not a regular raider, and not even close to worth it.
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What else will you spend your PPPs on? These are the best weapons in the game outside of raids... if that's not worth it to a non-raider, what is? Quit spouting short-sighted nonsense, Yas.
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I'm sure Carbine sees this as a bonus. They are "throwing us a cookie", as far as their perspective goes. They are the benevolent rulers, taking pity on us poor, poor filthy 'non-HARCORE!' players and giving us 'a chance' at getting HARCORE! gear. Despite the fact that the chance is so low that it might as well not exist. It's a lottery. They are scratching the gambling gland from certain people and hoping we'll think they are being nice.
 
I doubt anyone would get geared ever with this method. Not even if we gave them eight times the time a normal raider needs to get geared by doing the actual raids. If anyone does, it will be exactly like winning the lottery: you were blessed by RNG/luck, or you invested so much into winning that your earnings are minimal.	
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			So suddenly raiding becomes the path of least resistance ?  :lol:	
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Good for them. The ability of a non raider to farm the hundreds of partial primal patterns needed to stumble on a legendary has no effect on your raiding gear. It should have no effect on your self worth.
 
If a "casual" has enough time to do this many shiphands, adventures, or dungeons, chances are, they're doing some raiding as well, or they're getting a fraction of a chance to get a legendary once every few weeks.	
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What else will you spend your PPPs on? These are the best weapons in the game outside of raids... if that's not worth it to a non-raider, what is? Quit spouting short-sighted nonsense, Yas.
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Lol you guys are reading into what I said a bit too seriously and missing the point  :lol: !
 
Oh well  ^_^ ...	
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			BTW, don't know if it's been pointed out, but the Dyes from the PPP bags are Bind on Pickup.  So yea, not "uber valuable" :P  I was only excited about it because that was a color I didn't have, and I didn't have to buy it :D	
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			Something that would otherwise have PPPs just piling up in our inventories. If it's not your thing, too bad! Sell your PPPs now that they actually sell (see? you are benefitting!).They were worthless before... complete vendor trash, and now it's a bad thing that they have a use and can sell on thr CX? 
			
				
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You spend a bunch of them hoping that the RNGods will bless you with something you actually want. I sell them. I'm benefiting by exploiting someone else's gambling gland. But it's not only me: Carbine is also benefitting from your gambling gland, and they are getting real money out of it. You want something from that bag? Maybe you will be tempted to dump some actual cash into a bunch of CREDD to sell it, and then use the platinum to buy the 3Ps from someone like me. That's 20$ for Carbine on top of your normal subscription. More if you buy more than one CREDD.
That's the final purpose of this bags. Perhaps it's not the purpose Carbine added them for, but if we praise this? They will just add more instead of actual content because that's where the easiest pool of money lies: Make one single new piece of content. Add tokens. Add a vendor that requires XX of those tokens to give you a chance at some of the new gear. Watch as all the gamblers and wallet whales dump their money on it for the promise of shinnies as if they were Lopps.
 
So yes, I'd say it is a bad thing in the long run. I just hope I'm wrong and Carbine doesn't go that way. Right now I'm pretty sure they are just thinking this is a 'nice' bonus for non-raiders. I believe they are naive like that. For now, anyway.	
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Well, I'm selling my PPPs for plat, taking the plat, and using it to buy CREDD, which lets me keep the cash that I used to be giving to Carbine. If Carbine's new business model is to cash in on the suckers, then so be it. I'm not the sucker they're looking for.
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these bags are gamble boxes. pure and simple.
the fact that you can buy the Primal Patterns with gold(aka; real cash if you buy credd) is definitely a first step towards a cash shop.
 
nobody can come up with a decent argument that would make me change my mind about the existence of those gamble boxes that you can open with "gold".
if they were only buyable with non-gold currency (a currency that you could not buy with real money) then they would be slightly less offending.
 
as it is now....
worrying.
 
well. not that i don't want the game to be F2P.. i mean, i'll take it if its that.
but that two speed bullshit at the moment rubs me the wrong way.	
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			what else would you spend PPP on? you list them on the CX for the gullible people to purchase and use for this ridiculous gear. they list for about 10 gold per	
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Something that would otherwise have PPPs just piling up in our inventories. If it's not your thing, too bad! Sell your PPPs now that they actually sell (see? you are benefitting!).
 
They were worthless before... complete vendor trash, and now it's a bad thing that they have a use and can sell on thr CX?
 
 
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Something that would otherwise have PPPs just piling up in our inventories. If it's not your thing, too bad! Sell your PPPs now that they actually sell (see? you are benefitting!).
 
They were worthless before... complete vendor trash, and now it's a bad thing that they have a use and can sell on thr CX?
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