118039-imbuement-update

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Hey Folks – 
 
By now you may have noticed that all Imbuement items are now Bind on Pickup. So, whether these items are in the Auction House or in Guild Banks, they should become bound to the first person who receives them.
 
In addition, as part of this change, all Imbuement items are now what’s called ‘smart drop’. What that means for you is that you should no longer get Imbuement drops that you cannot use. Also, for the curious, many of the leveling Imbuements can now be found on the Renown vendor.
 
In a later patch (some of you may have already seen this on the PTR), many of the Veteran-tier Imbuements will also be added to the Renown and Glory vendors as part of the End Game Re-itemization update.
 
Thanks to everyone who is giving us feedback so that we can continue to make WildStar fun for everyone.	
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			Thank you for the clarification Tony!	
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			Thanks for update.So people who have raiding gear and reputation with all factions(except defile) can finally just log to do daily quests and forgot about open world or are you planning to add something valuable drops from open world mobs that will do hunting interesting again?	
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This is good to know that it's intended and probably sohuild be stickied for awhile as it's been a bit jarring for people to find these items become BoP.
 
Now at first when I heard this I was honestly a bit upset until I started ventureing in th eopen world and found that the itmes were dropping rather frequently or decently. It's still luck based, however for what little time I was playing I could feel confident in saying "they drop like candy". Though I feel like there should've been a grandfather clause where items AFTER this change should be BoP.	
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			a really bad idea. 1. What happens if you're unlucky? Trough out the whole of yesterday I didn't get a single purple drop, even though I did all the quests in the new Defile area. I could understand if this came together with the items buyable for renown update, but it didn't. 2. Why not account bound? If something drops for my esper that's the same as what I've got I might want to roll an esper alt. Now what do I do with it? Vendor for 2 gold?3. Why do this at all? If you're increasing the drop rate, then it would have equaled out in their prices anyway. That way if you had something that you don't want because you already have better, or same gear, you could give it to other people in your circle, guild, etc.And also because we're stuck in between updates, a person that came into this game now will have a whole lot worse time gearing up, than us veterans and than those people that will come in 3 months from now. So implementing this now makes no sense. 	
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			I think it's a bad decision to make the epics BOE prior to them being on the renown vendor. I don't really see how this makes things more "fun" for anyone.	
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a really bad idea. 
 
1. What happens if you're unlucky? Trough out the whole of yesterday I didn't get a single purple drop, even though I did all the quests in the new Defile area. I could understand if this came together with the items buyable for renown update, but it didn't. 
2. Why not account bound? If something drops for my esper that's the same as what I've got I might want to roll an esper alt. Now what do I do with it? Vendor for 2 gold?
3. Why do this at all? If you're increasing the drop rate, then it would have equaled out in their prices anyway. That way if you had something that you don't want because you already have better, or same gear, you could give it to other people in your circle, guild, etc.
 
And also because we're stuck in between updates, a person that came into this game now will have a whole lot worse time gearing up, than us veterans and than those people that will come in 3 months from now. So implementing this now makes no sense. 
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1.I'd give it more than a day, see how things pan out. For me I got lucky I guess and ended up with 5, they're also all for your class supposedly(seemed to be functioining correctly in that sense). I was confused though as well after checking the renown vendor that they were not purchasable to go along with this change.
2.Salvage it or hold onto it in case it changes i guess. it sucks and would like a BoA since the renown option isn't present.
3.Ultimatly I'm not sure...the items themselves with exception to a few like the rocktown greatsword and the DPS equivalent aren't even that powerful until they're imbued which takes effort on the persons part to get that done. It doesn't exactly encourage trading either. I will say though that had the rate been raised and the items BoE it'd help catch up more people gear wise that are fresh 50s now.
 
I don't think it's a bad idea, but it falls short without the sorrounding changes to accomidate it.
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Plus this is especially silly to release without the renown update.
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Though I feel like there should've been a grandfather clause where items AFTER this change should be BoP.
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That would be nice. I have a medium armor item stuck in the bank of a light-armored character. If they are not planning grandfathering, at least make it tradable between our own characters only. I'd be fine if they insist on keeping it within faction.
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			This is just for imbuement items correct? I don't think this is really that large of an issue at all. Even if you are extremely unlucky and never get a dropped piece (very very improbable), you still can get top tier gear. I don't think imbuement gear is that high up in the chain.	
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Agreed.   I currently have a Heavy GRIM GRIM chest piece that is bound to a level 16 SpellSlinger as I had no idea this was coming.  This was being stored for a future heavy armor wearer, whenever I decide to create/level one.  Had I known about this change, I would have at least created a character and got them in range of a mailbox.
 
I'm not against this change GOING FORWARD at all, but please grandfather in items that dropped pre-patch, even if its by a 'one time xfr' option to another character on your account.
 
Abbye	
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Here is a question...
 
Would it be possible to temporarily hotfix the items to be BoE and then re apply the BoP state later? To give people a bit of time to move or attempt to sell, give away, etc... the items in question?	
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			you took away a major way to make money...... you took away the reason people farm rare mobs. If your the only 1 to kill a mob you dont even see the loot it drops if you cant use it now. I did the work to kill that raremob... where the hell is my reward for doing so? I could have at least salvaged the gear if it was BoP and i couldnt use it. Now i expend energy for no reward. You need to get rid of this its a bad system it takes away incentive for people to play the game and farm mobs which in the long run will SCREW UP THE ECONOMY EVEN MORE. People not farming raremobs or mobs in general means tradeskill mats they randomly get for farming those mobs wont be picked up either.	
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			you guys really dont think about the repercussions some of these weird random arbitrary changes you make to the game do. You REALLY need to apply an inncentive to people to test this stuff on the PTR. this change in particular most people wouldnt even realise it was there on the PTR. because they wouldnt notice the loot that they werent seeing	
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			This doesn't screw up the economy. This just removes lottery gear. If you farmed long enough, eventually you'd get purples to sell from 10-40 platinum. Well, lottery is over. You need to adjust your farming. It's time to start working on smaller more commonly incremental items. Eldan signs are a consistent bet. Add the additional signs you'll get from salvaging all the gear drops and you can still make money. Albeit, it will be slower.	
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This doesn't screw up the economy. This just removes lottery gear. If you farmed long enough, eventually you'd get purples to sell from 10-40 platinum. Well, lottery is over. You need to adjust your farming. It's time to start working on smaller more commonly incremental items. Eldan signs are a consistent bet. Add the additional signs you'll get from salvaging all the gear drops and you can still make money. Albeit, it will be slower.
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			also heavy class wearers can wear all gear... is that fair to light armor wearers? and if heavys cant wear light armor thats not fair either, my example engineers wearing light grim grim hexweave gloves..... those are BiS for a long long while.	
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yes it does it really does your just turning a blind eye to the matter, Instead of looking at the whole picture your just looking at the situation from a perspective of gain on your part.
 
Why should anyone be out killing raremobs anywhere with the prospect of, "lottery gear" as you put it not there anymore?
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			There are a ton of reasons to farm Rare mobs. Expecting to kill a rare to get gear that isn't for your class with an imbuement seems a little backwards to me. 	
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Must say not very happy with this change :
1. Got some stuff for alts stuck on characters they are not useful for because:
 
2. Think we got no prior notice - GG...
* There was an answer to people in PTR feedback (no this is not prior notice) and it was worded that would suggest that the items bough for renown are BoP not all imbuement items
 
3. Are the smat drops properly configured ?
* Someone mentioned that only warriors could get some universal items (AP Pell board) - hardly fair nor proper configuration
* I know my esper got light gloves that are tailored to slinger - can use it but not really proper esper item
 
4. This should have been pushed with adding them to the vendor not prior
 
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To rare mobs being useless > most rare mob drops are not imbuerment and as such probably are not BoP (neither aegis shield is currently BoP for instance) so you can probably still farm them to sell the stuff.	
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			Im talking about being solo, so i do the work and kill a raremob, an item drops but its not an imbuement for me so the loot just sits there and goes to no one? why am i not allowed to salvage the item. i killed the mob and an item dropped why does it rot instead of me being rewarded for the work i did killing that mob?	
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its like going to work and punching in to cover a shift for someone, but you dont get paid. Because technically it was the other persons shift that you covered for EVEN THOUGH you were there doing the work.
 
Your being cheated out of loot that you deserve to roll on for at least the ability to salvage if you cannot use it.
 
 
The items arent adjusting to items with imbuements you can use, the item drops and if it has an imbuement you cant use you dont see it at all.	
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its like going to work and punching in to cover a shift for someone, but you dont get paid. Because technically it was the other persons shift that you covered for EVEN THOUGH you were there doing the work.
 
Your being cheated out of loot that you deserve to roll on for at least the ability to salvage if you cannot use it.
 
 
The items arent adjusting to items with imbuements you can use, the item drops and if it has an imbuement you cant use you dont see it at all.
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its like going to work and punching in to cover a shift for someone, but you dont get paid. Because technically it was the other persons shift that you covered for EVEN THOUGH you were there doing the work.
 
Your being cheated out of loot that you deserve to roll on for at least the ability to salvage if you cannot use it.
 
 
The items arent adjusting to items with imbuements you can use, the item drops and if it has an imbuement you cant use you dont see it at all.
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So, what is going to be done about to potential money lost from hoarding these items?
 
I was expecting to either sell the items in the future or give them to an alt / friend.
Now, I cant do either. I'm talking about around 50-100 plat worth. I'm sure a few people are in this same situation.
 
Will there be any compensation? If so, how? If not, why not? The plat I paid for these items have gone down the drain for me. 
No notice of change, and no compensation?	
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you can still sell them to vendor or salvage them. 
 
Side note hoarding is bad for your health and should look in to help for habits like that. 
 
but for real. were you buying Imbuement items you couldn't use to then sell them for a higher price?   as for giving them to an alt or friend may i suggest giving them crafted gear which can be made with better stats and tailored to their build with all of the new salvaged items you have from the 50-100 plat of items.
 
I think everyone is missing the point of imbuement items. think of them as sprinkles on your ice cream. they are nice but are not needed and in most situations they take away from the ice cream as a whole. Wildstar has now made it so if you do get sprinkles on your ice cream they are made from your favorite color and taste. not your friends not some other persons.
 
so you have invested in rainbow sprinkles and now.... it is illegal to have rainbow sprinkles. you can either separate them in to their own colors and sell them as parts and make your money back or you can just get rid of them.   some times you just invest in the wrong sprinkle. 	
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its kinda obvious the i invested in the wrong items. but my point is that they should have made an announcement PRE DROP 3 that this was going to happen.
 
Basically what wildstar has done is taken away plats from people who have been storing them in alts that cant use them, or mains that planned on reselling.
 
If you bought credd, and wildstar all of a sudden took credd selling ability away, and got rid of the credd system, without any warning or compensation, would you feel the same way if you had saved up lets say 10 credd?	
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Just 2 things to say by now:
1) You can be very unlucky. I farm dailies and mobs every single day since drop 3, on the 3 daily zones with 3 chars (like... the whole day). Although some people in my guild drop like 5 purples/hour  I still don't get any. And you know they link it on guild chan, and if I could have it before drop 3 they just say "oh **** this one was for your tank Draxis" ><
I just droped 1 imbuement item for dps medic on my tank stalker in SL... An engineer from my guild dropped nice tank items I would really like to drop but... well... no. So I think I'm just the unlucky one here ^^
 
2) If the change is not so bad, not seing it come is bad, I had 1 heavy riffle (BIS) for engineer tank in my warrior bank, waiting for one of our engineers to be 50... It's lost, I hope he'll get lucky enough to drop one by himself now or be able to buy a nice crafted one. People in my guild were farming a lot for those who can't connect so much time in the week and farm gear or platinum. This is over now. One of our guildmates even stopped because of that, because it was the main thing he did on WS, farming mobs during hours to gear up new players... You know some people are just like that...	
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I certainly agree that some warning would have been nice.  I had 3 pieces of imbuement armor I was holding for my new character, which I could have moved over if I'd known the bind was going to happen.  
 
I also have issue with the new 'smart drop'. As an engineer I am still receiving drops that I "Can Use" but are not useful, namely medium armor.  As a heavy armor wearer I "Can use it" but there is no reason I would want.  A light armor user will only ever get items they would discard for stat reasons but heavy or medium armor wears can get drops that fit the "can use" qualifier, but functionally waste the role on the epic item table.  This also extend to support systems, implants and weapon attachments.  I received a drop of Lord Hoarfrosts Glacial Deflector yesterday which would be really useful to my Esper,  but which my engineer has absolutely no use for.  
Account bound items would be nice,   I'm an alt junkie so I have a character that can use everything,   but barring that being able to trade them in for a class appropriate item would be nice.	
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I certainly agree that some warning would have been nice.  I had 3 pieces of imbuement armor I was holding for my new character, which I could have moved over if I'd known the bind was going to happen.  
 
I also have issue with the new 'smart drop'. As an engineer I am still receiving drops that I "Can Use" but are not useful, namely medium armor.  As a heavy armor wearer I "Can use it" but there is no reason I would want.  A light armor user will only ever get items they would discard for stat reasons but heavy or medium armor wears can get drops that fit the "can use" qualifier, but functionally waste the role on the epic item table.  This also extend to support systems, implants and weapon attachments.  I received a drop of Lord Hoarfrosts Glacial Deflector yesterday which would be really useful to my Esper,  but which my engineer has absolutely no use for.  
Account bound items would be nice,   I'm an alt junkie so I have a character that can use everything,   but barring that being able to trade them in for a class appropriate item would be nice.
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I certainly agree that some warning would have been nice.  I had 3 pieces of imbuement armor I was holding for my new character, which I could have moved over if I'd known the bind was going to happen.  
 
I also have issue with the new 'smart drop'. As an engineer I am still receiving drops that I "Can Use" but are not useful, namely medium armor.  As a heavy armor wearer I "Can use it" but there is no reason I would want.  A light armor user will only ever get items they would discard for stat reasons but heavy or medium armor wears can get drops that fit the "can use" qualifier, but functionally waste the role on the epic item table.  This also extend to support systems, implants and weapon attachments.  I received a drop of Lord Hoarfrosts Glacial Deflector yesterday which would be really useful to my Esper,  but which my engineer has absolutely no use for.  
Account bound items would be nice,   I'm an alt junkie so I have a character that can use everything,   but barring that being able to trade them in for a class appropriate item would be nice.
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			I think this change turned out pretty well . Been 3 days since i started this game and i've been getting only useful imbuement items .  Less rng is good :)	
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