115472-outfitter-am-i-missing-something

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I was using armorer on a character and always had more mining resources than I could use leveling up. 
 
Doing outfitter on my new guy and seem to never have any leather. Even spending time killing leather dropping animals yields very few leather drops. Am I missing something, or does leather just have a crap drop rate?	
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			I ended up either buying and salvaging cheap medium armor from vendors or buying the renown crates for survivalist to get the leather. I'm wondering the same thing as I had also done armorer and it's clearly far easier to get the materials needed when compared to outfitter.	
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			Having a Thicket plug in your house and harvesting it regularly goes a long way when it comes to leather.	
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Yeah you're missing survivalist. There  isn't a lack of leather:
 
Split leather from the farm bulls in Auroria (Hycrest area)
Thick leather from the cliffside bulls in far east Auroria and in Whitehaven
Reinforced leather in Farside and Wilderrun
Rockhide leather in Malgrave
Augmented leather in NE Malgrave and Blighthaven.	
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			I've tried farming for leather, but that's just not a thing in my experience. The rate of leather compared to walking around mining is drastic, and in the end, not worthwhile. I found it far more productive/efficient to throw money/renown at the problem.	
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			Wishing they had a skin option so we could get leather more often. The drop rate now sucks. Thinking I may need to switch to a different crafting field.	
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Yeah you're missing survivalist. There  isn't a lack of leather:
 
Split leather from the farm bulls in Auroria (Hycrest area)
Thick leather from the cliffside bulls in far east Auroria and in Whitehaven
Reinforced leather in Farside and Wilderrun
Rockhide leather in Malgrave
Augmented leather in NE Malgrave and Blighthaven.
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			What's the symbol?  I've never noticed it.	
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			35 minutes of farming herds of cows and wolves and got 13 split leather.  :angry:	
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			Are you also salvaging the carcasses? Probably a stupid question but sometimes I'm a bit baffled by how many carcasses I see on the AH and I have to believe that they are coming from the survivalists themselves. I know when you are in a party anyone can roll on them but occasionally the numbers seem to high for that to be the only source. Similar looting light/med/heavy armor in a group, need rolls should be available to players who are survivalists while players who do not have the skill are only given the option for a greed roll. I'm not certain but I don't think the other gathering skills allow players without the trade to contest materials in a similar fashion.	
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Yeah, I was salvaging everything I could.
 
20 mins got me 146 ore.  That's just way out of whack ..	
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What's the symbol?  I've never noticed it.
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			Would have to ask the same question, what symbol? He might've had an addon that added it?	
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I tried to Google for it but couldn't find it.
I'll try to remember when I'm online gaming next time.
It's like the icon's for quest or challenges, but if you hover over the mob you won't see a mission of challenge in the info tip.
I only have noticed in on a character with Survivalist, but I've only used it for Architecture, so I wasn't too worried about leather.	
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OK! Found it!
 
Not an appropriate mob, but just the first one i found with it.
The little neuclear symbol with the fire inside, totally obvious right? :/
None of the mobs in blighthaven give any benefits :/	
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			Are you a scientist?	
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			Yeah, that looks like the scientist emblem.  I've never seen that anywhere on my survivalist.	
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OK! Found it!
 
Not an appropriate mob, but just the first one i found with it.
The little neuclear symbol with the fire inside, totally obvious right? :/
None of the mobs in blighthaven give any benefits :/
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That symbol isn't even on a mob, let alone one that would drop leather or carcasses or meat
You pretty much just proved yourself wrong on that theory
Basically leather sucks to get and that's just how it is.
Once you get max level you'll eventually have more augmented leather than you could ever use but until then unless you can afford to buy about 200 of each type from the CX
It is a long painful grind
 
as long as you stick with bugs, birds, beasts, and ikthians you should get survivalist stuff kicking in as it should
 
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So basically any animal type mob has a chance of dropping leather right?
 
When when talking about salvaging them, it's the carcass type loot you pick up, and not the body/gibs that are left behind?
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			OK, thanks for the clarification	
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			I Highly recommend either buying from cx, sometimes the stuff is sold at a vendor (permanently, like the one in wilderrun), buying and salvaging the stuff (especially if still on dead server) or buy the renown bags of survivalist. You'll save soo much time and probably money too by getting the leather this way. If it takes hours to get a good dozen leather or so, you're better off making money and buying them.	
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I got up to the point where I was able to upgrade my thicket and figured out that you get a lot of those vouchers along the way.  I've been able to keep a good stream of crafting done and got ahead of my level. 
 
It seems like it's not as easy to get started as mining, but with some work you can make a good incoming stream.	
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That symbol isn't even on a mob, let alone one that would drop leather or carcasses or meat
You pretty much just proved yourself wrong on that theory
Basically leather sucks to get and that's just how it is.
Once you get max level you'll eventually have more augmented leather than you could ever use but until then unless you can afford to buy about 200 of each type from the CX
It is a long painful grind
 
as long as you stick with bugs, birds, beasts, and ikthians you should get survivalist stuff kicking in as it should
 
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			Yep. they're default game scientist icons, I know as I'm leveling a scientist alt where as I'm used to the non-scientist alt's stuff.	
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Yep. they're default game scientist icons, I know as I'm leveling a scientist alt where as I'm used to the non-scientist alt's stuff.
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35 minutes of farming herds of cows and wolves and got 13 split leather.  :angry:
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