Fallout Equestria:Legacy Notes

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=Characters=
==Cherry Bloom==
[7/12/2014 12:49:18 PM] : And that's also why Cherry Bloom despite being a crusader wouldn't turn up in any records or logs of Stable Tec because she was also to be kept a secret.
[7/12/2014 12:50:10 PM] : directly involved in the experiments to create the Luneria Maneframe? Which I can't imagine, given Stable-Tec's history, went completely cleanly
[7/12/2014 12:51:06 PM] : I'm imagining audiologs and the like from the experiments to create the interface
[7/12/2014 12:51:17 PM] : Probably not, but that's why they have a stasis chamber like they have for the Single Pegasus Project.
[7/12/2014 12:51:26 PM] : I mean not completely cleanly
[7/12/2014 12:52:09 PM] : I'm figuring that a couple of ponies probably would have gotten their brains fried in the development process
[7/12/2014 12:52:16 PM] : And of course we can have Cherry Bloom for exposition since she was there when decisions were made.
[7/12/2014 12:52:52 PM]  waves a hoof, "of course"
[7/12/2014 12:52:56 PM] : I mean before they find her
[8/02/2014 3:04:40 AM] : Also considering all but one of those has pipbucks... and Cherry Bloom has a rather advanced pipbuck. It has one more level of disposition than just hostile and not hostile, Friend, Neutral, Hostile as well as depicting the shape as an upward pointing arrow a box or a downward pointing arrow depending on if its above the user or below the user. and has an approxomate distance. And I haven't decided what else a higher up in stable-tech would have. Don't want it too OP, but it should be fitting to a Stable-Tech higher up.)
[8/02/2014 3:07:42 AM] : I figure a slightly higher resolution on the Eyes Forward Sparkle wouldn't be too bad. considering even Second Life has the level I'm refering to with the EMDash and Radar.
[8/02/2014 3:13:33 AM] : sure, we don't even have to go into much detail about it, especially since Cherry Bloom hiding things is probably going to be a plot point
[2/02/2014 3:14:10 AM] : we could just have it remarked that it's sleeker and nicer than a typical PipBuck, and have special features pop up now and then?
[8/02/2014 3:16:24 AM | Edited 3:16:55 AM] : Well it also has a custom shape.A screen being held in the branches of a tree with cherry pairs for the buttons and sakura blossom dials. the pony status icon is of her rather than a generic pony. Could be one of the first signs that she's a bit more than dshe seems if she has a custom one. though being an alicorn and former princess (Are you still a Princess if your land no longer exists as it was?) might be the excuse she uses initially rather than she was stable tech.
[8/02/2014 3:17:03 AM] : and they'll already know a bit about her before they find her
[8/02/2014 3:17:11 AM] : from the files they find through Stable-Tec
[8/02/2014 3:17:34 AM] : Yeah.
===And Watcher===
[7/17/2014 10:33:03 PM] : So there's a question for you. How do you think Watcher will factor in?
[7/17/2014 10:34:12 PM] : ..hm
[7/17/2014 10:34:27 PM] : Well he will be drawn to them since a group travelling through the wastelands
[7/17/2014 10:34:35 PM] : But Cherry is kinda the key factor there
[7/17/2014 10:34:39 PM | Edited 10:34:41 PM] : Since he will know her
[7/17/2014 10:34:50 PM] : Yeah.
[7/18/2014 1:26:52 PM] : maybe eventually, even when Watcher managed to find them he probably wouldn't believe his eyes when he saw Cherry Bloom, probably watch for a longer time before attempting to make contact assuming that it could be some coincidence or some sort of monster taking her shape
[7/18/2014 1:27:57 PM] : Chaaangelingggssss.
[7/18/2014 1:28:18 PM] : a perfect example
[7/18/2014 1:30:33 PM] : So in this story, its Watcher's turn to make assumptions of identity.
[7/18/2014 1:31:49 PM] : yeah
[7/18/2014 1:32:39 PM] : also, I was thinking of including a moment near the start of their trip in which a Sprite Bot stops to watch the Legacies for a little while during/after a fight, but simply starts back up and leaves without saying anything
[7/18/2014 1:33:09 PM | Edited 1:33:16 PM] : basically having Watcher dismiss them as potential element bearers
===And the Legacies===
[6/10/2014 12:16:50 AM] : ooh, what if, when the stasis chamber is opened, Cherry Bloom first sees Moxy and momentarily mistakes him for Moxi, thinking some of her old friends are still alive.
It'd be an early chance for them to see a crack in her facade
[6/10/2014 10:14:48 AM] : I like that. Gives a bit of significance to the moxi/moxy thing.
[7/17/2014 10:36:23 PM] : Does Cherry retain all her memories from before the Stable or are they fragmented?
[7/17/2014 10:36:57 PM] : Hmm... Would need to ask Moxy and Catcher what would be better storywise.
[7/17/2014 10:38:25 PM] : Gamewise fragmented, that way she'd have the same skills level wise as a level 1.
[7/17/2014 10:43:45 PM] : Yeah,
[7/17/2014 10:44:02 PM] : I know catch and moxy wanted to have the element of finding out who their ancestors were in the story
[7/17/2014 10:44:16 PM] : Which is kinda nullified if Cherry can just tell them right off XD
[7/17/2014 11:01:33 PM] : Well, I guess that is all dependant upon whether or not CB can keep a secret
[7/17/2014 11:02:08 PM] : Maybe it could be that she does remember, but holds that information when the others voice their desires to learn who their ancestors were
[7/17/2014 11:04:11 PM] : "A question of motivation" Out of story in the meta, its because Moxy and Catcher want them to discover it. In story out of meta what reason would she have for keeping that secret from them?
[7/17/2014 11:10:09 PM] : Without reason it kinda seems cruel to withhold it
[7/17/2014 11:10:23 PM] : You want to know your ancestors story? Well good luck with the wastelands
[7/17/2014 11:10:23 PM] : True
[7/17/2014 11:10:53 PM] : It could be for personal reasons,though how that works out is not for me to say
[7/17/2014 11:20:22 PM] : And you can't exactly point to Cherry being in a lifesigns minimalization state so "she doesn't know" since there are some that are the spitting image of their ancestor *coughMoxycough*.
[7/17/2014 11:31:09 PM] : Yeah haha XD
[7/18/2014 2:04:49 PM] : yeah, Cherry probably wouldn't know what most of the ponies were up to specifically during the war, plus they don't find her unitl a while after they've already been on the road
[7/18/2014 2:05:11 PM] : and I would imagine her time in the war and with Stable Tec would probably leave her a little less trusting
[7/18/2014 2:06:06 PM] : Trusting of who?
[7/18/2014 2:06:12 PM] : everypony
[7/18/2014 2:06:25 PM] : the CMC, the mane 6, Luna
[7/18/2014 2:06:48 PM] : everypony was completely different by their end, the war changed ponies, even if ponies couldn't change the war
[7/18/2014 2:09:36 PM] : Well she'd probably still trust the CMC. Especially if that's who she spent the most time with during the war. She might not completely agree with all of the decisions but she'd probably still trust them... and by extention 3 of the mane six. Since Scootaloo still had absolute faith in Rainbow Dash and Applejack and Rarity were the other Crusader's sisters.
[7/18/2014 2:10:57 PM] : She might not trust Pinkie as much near the end, could be another reason for the whole secrecy thing. But without trusting the Crusaders you have the whole issue of a stable in Luneria has a Crusader Maneframe in it.
[7/18/2014 2:11:55 PM] : when I say 'everypony' I mean 'ponies in general'
[7/18/2014 2:12:06 PM] : the Legacies are basically strangers to her
[7/18/2014 2:12:15 PM] : even if they're descended from her friends
[7/18/2014 2:13:59 PM] : So a question would be did she still trust her friends, Like Moxi? Since she's still basically giving up a huge chunk of time to protect Moxi and the others who got into the stable?
[7/18/2014 2:14:29 PM] : yeah, but they're all dead and she's alone
[7/18/2014 2:14:51 PM] : maybe she's worried how the Legacies would react to some of the things she knows, maybe she's afraid of being alone again
[7/18/2014 2:15:21 PM] : So would she give them some rose colored history?
[7/18/2014 2:15:33 PM] : Fitting seeing particular things about Cherry...
[7/18/2014 2:16:37 PM] : yeah, maybe she'd be able to tell them about before the war, but when the war started either eveypony went too wide for her to really know, or Cherry Bloom knows what they did and wants to cover it up
[7/18/2014 2:17:05 PM] : Losing track of them could work.
[7/18/2014 2:17:35 PM] : In order for her to be afraid of becoming alone again, she'd need to be aware of her time in stasis. to be aware of being alone.
[7/18/2014 2:17:49 PM] : not necessarily
[7/18/2014 2:18:12 PM] : It's mostly the again part.
[7/18/2014 2:18:37 PM] : she wakes up in the wasteland and everypony she ever knew is gone, that's immediate loneliness
[7/18/2014 2:18:38 PM] : How could you be afraid of returning to a state you were unaware of? I could understand afraid of being alone.
[7/18/2014 2:19:26 PM] : Rose colored tunnel vision nostalgia goggles.
[7/18/2014 2:20:28 PM] : Rose colored because she's the element of Joy, tunnel vision because she was unaware of what went on during the war, or at least the specifics, nostalgia goggles because the stories she tells was still back from when she was chronologically a foal.
[7/18/2014 2:20:50 PM] : ooooh... no wait you're right.
[7/18/2014 2:21:00 PM] : that was a core part of who and what she was.
[7/18/2014 2:21:16 PM] : She has a deep seeded fear of being all alone.
[7/18/2014 2:21:37 PM] : That's actually one of the contributing factors behind whay she's so loving and cuddly.
[7/18/2014 2:21:58 PM] : She hates to be alone and she doesn't handle rejection well.
[7/18/2014 2:23:39 PM] : ;;-;;
[7/18/2014 2:23:45 PM] : Lorelei cuddles the Cherry forever
[7/18/2014 2:24:35 PM] : and the Legaces would know she was Stable Tec by the time they found her, making at least some of them wary of trusting her
[7/18/2014 2:26:54 PM] : Cherry Bloom snuggles Lore!
===And the CMC===
Conversation occured on Steam on Wednesday, July 30th
: So I thought of some more drama cake for you. Though from listening to some of PH I wonder how much of it is needed.
: oh?
: So you know how the stables seem to be odd experiments? Like Stable 99?
: except that after the discussion with apple bot that doesn't seem to be as much the case.
: ah, got to that bit
: yeah, I had pondered at what she says too
: Turns out telling them to do what you need is what lead to that rather than stabletech setting up the "rape factory".
: yeah, Stable 99 was a result of the darker nature of its residents
: What it was going to be was the fact that Cherry is Stable-Tech, so encountering some of these messed up stables would create questions around Cherry that was originally supposed to present three possible paths
: a.) Cherry is innocent, the other three came up with the darker things. Cherry gets to deal with that the other three didn't inform her about some of these things.
: b.) Cherry was in on it, and it gets into the trust thing between Cherry and the Legacies.
: c.) She was in on it inadvertantly... like she might have had some ideas offered but wasn't aware what the others were going to use them for. She still blames herself for what happened, even though it was the others. this gets to deal with Cherry feeling guilty, the trust issues and the other CMC not including her in the info of what was intended.
: Though after the apple bot thing it seems it might just be Cherry saying about the same thing that was revealed in the scootalog about that was not part of the instructions.
: I kind of like the idea of Cherry being involved. Her trying to hide her involvement while experiencing guilt as she sees the results of the Stables would be interesting
: kk.
: Though it still does make me wonder if the Stable Tech things aren't as messed up as they turned out... how does that play in? It wouldn't be as bad if the stables weren't supposed to turn out bad.
: I think that most of the Stables would still be experiments
: Yeah, but as messed up as the outcome versus the intended stable?
: well, I don't think Vault-Tec intended for things to go to shit quite as bad as they did in the original Fallout universe..
: but their experiments were still responsible
===Cherry's Family===
[7/19/2014 1:36:21 AM | Edited 1:36:33 AM] : so... we already have a minimum of 4 ponies alive in our story from before the war at this point
[7/19/2014 1:36:50 AM] : "alive"
[7/19/2014 1:36:56 AM] : Two are ghouls.
[7/19/2014 1:37:19 AM] : Two of the 'survivors' are "minor characters".
[7/19/2014 1:37:52 AM] : I think the others of the family will be fate unknown.
[7/19/2014 1:38:32 AM] : No record, no trace, no audio.
[7/19/2014 1:38:39 AM] : No memory orbs.
====Eternal Blue====
[7/19/2014 1:42:37 AM] : Oh gosh, I just thought of a really horrible idea not sure if you'd approve of having another "survived".
But had the thought of Eternal Blue being a feral ghoul. And Wolfberry has to take her out. And he does it by absorbing the energy out of her. So he's holding her, while she's trashing and damaging him. As he slowly dairns the "life" out of her. and she "dies" in his arms as it were.
[7/19/2014 1:43:23 AM] : The injuries she inflicts on him dissappear and reappear on her as he absorbs her to death.
[7/19/2014 1:43:32 AM] : Gads that's a depressing idea.
[7/19/2014 1:43:49 AM] : heh, very Fallout Equestria
[7/19/2014 1:45:46 AM] : I love that idea
[7/19/2014 1:45:52 AM] : Lorelei obsessed with tragedy
[7/19/2014 1:45:55 AM] : Very much so
[7/19/2014 1:49:09 AM] : And Cherry could be critically injured because its about this point she gives up. Seeing her mother like that and Eternal Blue nearly beats her to death. Only to be saved by Wolfberry having to fight Eternal Blue. Cherry manages to survive which would part of the point of having Strawberry Song around. Since he's an Alicorn who's special talent is healing. The element of joy could be seemingly broken for a while. Her mask cracked. Her emptyness revelead in full force.
Eventually she'd recover... but one wonders how fully she recovered, or if it was her mask that recovered instead.
And she could remain with the smile that feels empty. Until...
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/364/e/9/cherry_spike___face_cling_by_creshosk-d5pq3hu.png
At which point she's start a real recovery. Not just a "Barley hanging on due to your virtue for the sake of the others."
[7/19/2014 1:55:46 AM] : Wow, I adore that concept for Cherry
[7/19/2014 1:56:11 AM] : Sad, but the chance for growth and adaption to the current world and seeking hope for it would be incredible
====Plum Dreamer====
[7/19/2014 1:33:24 AM] : I'm thinking Plum might not be around, but might have sent the other siblings out of country. So Plum is gone. But used his future sight to get the others out. but sadly couldn't see a way for himself to be out of the country as well. Any future that had him out of the country one of the others would return being worried about the country. So he sacrificed himself to ensure the others were away. Kiwi wound up becoming a ghoul however.
====Strawberry Song and Kiwi Berry====
[7/19/2014 1:23:15 AM] : Also with that in mind I had an idea for discovering one of Cherry's siblings, alive and well... Mostly. He wouldn't be going anywhere with them, he doesn't fancy himself an adventurer and isn't going anywhere. So he's just sort of an ally that they might find in Neighpon.
Strawberry Song. On top of his usual medical magic he's learned himself some necromancy. His Love interest/wife, Kiwi Berry, is still around too! But wait.. Kiwi was just a pegasus... but now she's a ghoul, Not a feral one ( Though initially the group might think she is due to her being aggressive toward the group because she thinks they're ghoul hunters who kill ghouls regardless of if they're feral or regular). And Strawberry has taken to capturing ghouls (Only feral ones but the initial discovery of him doing this could leave a lot of questions about that) and studying them... not always in the most humane-er equine ways.
[7/19/2014 1:24:20 AM] : Lorelei notes to self not to become a ghoul
[7/19/2014 1:26:09 AM] : Yeah, Personally I have no prejudices against ghouls. Never had a problem with them in any of the games... unless they behavior was dickish, in which case I'd treat them the same as non-ghoul jerks. if their behavior was bad enough (like talon company) I'd put them down.
[7/19/2014 1:27:46 AM] : Yeah I'm not saying that talon company in the games were ghouls, just that those jerkwads had to go.
[7/19/2014 1:30:28 AM] : what is your thinking for how he survived so long?
[7/19/2014 1:30:41 AM] : or rather, for surviving the bombs
[7/19/2014 1:33:24 AM] : Either wound up in a Neighponese stable or was out of country at the time.
====Wolfberry====
[6/10/2014 10:57:24 PM] : If the megaspells have an underlying framework that's physical ain nature and if they're supposed to be an expy for nuclear weapons, the way that nuclear weapons work is they use dynomite as an explosion to thrust the atomic payload together in order to cause the nuclear detonation.
[6/10/2014 10:57:49 PM] : but the way Balefire works is necromantic fire
[6/10/2014 10:58:07 PM] : That means that the physical apparatus would still have to have physical parts to move in order for them to be able to be dormant
[6/10/2014 10:58:18 PM] : …OH
[6/10/2014 10:58:21 PM] : OH!
[6/10/2014 10:58:28 PM] : Especially since Zebra themselves do not have unicorn magic to trigger them
[6/10/2014 10:58:40 PM] : okay, I see, you don't mean physically containing the explosion
[6/10/2014 10:59:33 PM] : just trying his damndest to keep the physical part from converting into the magical part of the process.
[6/10/2014 11:00:45 PM] : that's definitely more reasonable than what I was imagining, but I suppose that would be indicative of a planted bomb rather than a dropped one, or missile
[6/10/2014 11:00:53 PM] : do we want to go with a plant?
[6/10/2014 11:00:57 PM] : heh heh heh
[6/10/2014 11:01:19 PM] : Planted at a place that would do the most damage to both the tree and the palace.
[6/10/2014 11:01:44 PM] : that can work
[7/16/2014 10:46:36 PM] : So, here's a thought. if we were to do something special with Wolfberry, we wouldn't be the first to make our own new type of ghoul. There's quite a few other side stories that have their own new type of ghoul. So for Wolfberry, what if he was like a reverse glowing one? Due to 200 years of focusing on preventing and magic amber from one of Gaia's world trees, Wolfberry rather than giving off radiation was rather good at absorbing radiation?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goji#Preliminary_medical_research
[7/16/2014 10:48:27 PM] : For the absorbing is it a conscious effort or a constant thing?
[7/16/2014 10:48:50 PM] : First one then the other.
[7/16/2014 10:48:51 PM] : and would he also give it off, like Derpy after the Rad boom?
[7/16/2014 10:50:43 PM] : He wouldn't bleed it off, he'd just bulk up and get bigger. It'd give Catch something fun to play with if we have an encounter with a creature akin to a super-behemoth that isn't an alicorn. Since neighpon has all new horrors to play with. we can toy with some of the Japanese youkai... or heck, we can even have a non-canon sub-story one off with Kaiju.
[7/16/2014 10:51:17 PM] : Well not so much bleed off as use up, as his body metabolized it his muscle mass would shrink back down.
[7/16/2014 10:52:32 PM | Edited 10:52:49 PM] : I do rather like that concept, I just recommend weighing positives with negatives as we go. His being able to be a portable radiation remover may attract attention from others to use him as such, Red Eye being one I thought of right away, forcing him to keep a rather low profile?
[7/16/2014 10:53:27 PM] : Wolfberry would never encounter Red-Eye. They probably never would have even met given the time table moxy is talking about.
[7/16/2014 10:53:44 PM] : Well bad example I guess,
[7/16/2014 10:54:18 PM] : If there was a neighponese Red-Eye it'd give a villain for Moxy and Catch to play with.
[7/16/2014 10:54:49 PM] : Thing is I'm not certain. since he's going to be there until our characters discover him in the amber.
[7/16/2014 10:55:17 PM] : Captain Nippon
[7/16/2014 10:55:18 PM] : >.>
[7/16/2014 10:55:44 PM] : so he'd be rather unknown... unless there's an antagonist scientist that's theorized about him and there's a crew trying to get him (and the remnants of the megaspell) out of the amber for some reason.
[7/16/2014 10:58:20 PM] : A megaspell is pretty much some of the most power you can get in the Wasteland, would be granted someone would be after it. In a game of biggest guns its pretty much an ace.
[7/19/2014 12:25:20 AM] : regardless, Equiyoto Ghoul works better as the name for the fungus ghouls, if Wolfberry winds up being a different kind, we'll just have to come up with another name
[7/19/2014 12:26:30 AM] : Such as?
[7/19/2014 12:27:07 AM] : dunno, but Equiyoto Ghoul should be used for a classification of a full type of ghouls, rather than a unique anomaly
[7/19/2014 12:27:40 AM] : I suppose what we'd call it would depend on the specefics of what makes him unique, what happens to him exactly?
[7/19/2014 12:27:56 AM] : Sorry, didn't mean for that to sound obstinant, legitimatly curious about suggestions.
[7/19/2014 12:28:17 AM] : all good, I don't really know
[7/19/2014 12:29:06 AM] : He temporarily gains Mass ans strength with hirgher levels of radiation. when he "bleeds" it off his system simply metbolizes it and he shrinks back down to his default size. Sort of like Strong Guy from X-Factor with kinetic energy.
[7/19/2014 12:29:29 AM] : or the Hulk
[7/19/2014 12:29:56 AM] : I suppose after you hit that usual lethal levels of radiation he starts to act like a glowing one where he reaches a saturation point and simply stops being able to absorb anymore in.
[7/19/2014 12:30:14 AM] : Oh gosh.
[7/19/2014 12:30:26 AM] : and balefire is green too.
[7/19/2014 12:30:30 AM] : oh, honey, please tell me you realized you were making the hulk here
[7/19/2014 12:30:31 AM] : Didn't think about that
[7/19/2014 12:30:36 AM] : XD
[7/19/2014 12:30:56 AM] :
[Saturday, July 19, 2014 12:18 AM] :
<<< It would however mean he can't wear armor, as his mass changes would destroy it unless it was some special armor
[7/19/2014 12:31:06 AM] : Because he wouldn't start to turn green until the upper levels of lethal levels.
[7/19/2014 12:31:29 AM] : Berserker Ghoul?
[7/19/2014 12:31:55 AM] : He wouldn't be a Beserker though. He doesn't lose sentence.
[7/19/2014 12:32:29 AM] : Unless you wanted to go the flutterhulk route.
[7/19/2014 12:33:35 AM] : Moxypony shrugs
[7/19/2014 12:33:56 AM | Edited 12:34:18 AM] : I'm rather a long ways off from the point when I'll be thinking of what to do once he's actually involved in the storyline
[7/19/2014 12:34:44 AM] : he's another factor that's cropped up that changes the math
[7/19/2014 12:34:45 AM] : XD
[7/19/2014 12:36:03 AM] : For each +2 to his strength he gains, he gets a -1 to his inteligence.
Base S 8; I 5
Minor S +1 I -0
Advanced S +2 I -1
Critical S +3 I -1
Deadly S +4 I -2
End S 12; I 3
Or something like this.
[7/19/2014 12:36:32 AM] : that sounds like it'd fit the berserker title fairly well
[7/19/2014 12:36:55 AM] : makes him twitchier, quicker to anger
[7/19/2014 12:36:55 AM | Edited 12:38:13 AM] : Well added the IQ drop thing to fit more in line with the beserker as an explination for it.
[7/19/2014 12:38:02 AM] : And of course as the radiation "bleeds off" he shrinks back down in mass from flutterhulk at deadly, to bulk biceps at advanced, Bigmac at minor and normal Stallion at Base.
[7/19/2014 2:08:27 PM] : Also I'm going to have to compensate for someone at Bethesda being a moron. Other than Luck his entire SPECIA Stats are effected. His Physical Stats go up while his mental ones go down. Strength, Endurance and Agility all go up. Perception, Charisma and Intelligence all go down.
[7/19/2014 2:09:04 PM] : Who was the genius that decided that unarmed skill was based on Endurance?
[7/19/2014 2:09:34 PM] : making his perception low enough to run over landmines, but his endurance high enough not to notice XD
[7/19/2014 2:09:44 PM] : Pretty much.
[7/19/2014 2:09:51 PM] : He's going to be our group's tank.
[7/19/2014 2:29:32 PM] : Screw it, I wanna call Wolfberry the Big Daddy varient of the Beserker ghoul. Just for the bioshock reference. Because its not like Fallout doesn't have other references in it.
[7/19/2014 2:29:44 PM] : haha
[7/19/2014 2:34:59 PM] : eww.. San Diego...
[7/19/2014 2:35:04 PM] : XD
[7/19/2014 2:39:45 PM | Edited 3:00:10 PM] : I can see how he'd get the name too.
The team sees him go Berserker for the first time, but when they see that he's not attacking Cherry Bloom they realize that he's not like the others. Somepony mentions that there's not even a term for a sane Berserker Ghoul, and after a moment of silence while they watch Cherry Bloom and Wolfberry together, Dullahan just pipes up, "Big Daddy."
[7/19/2014 3:10:13 PM] : -^-^- I rather like that.
==Pre-War==
===Alicia===
====And True Blue====
[7/25/2014 8:42:14 PM] : so I was thinking that, since they're both MoA, at some point Alicia serves with/under True Blue, was thinking it might be cool to give them their own little team
[7/26/2014 12:21:20 AM] : That would be cool.
[7/26/2014 12:27:31 AM] : my current thinking is a 4 pony team.
*Alicia as the primary stealth operative (she was initially recruited because of the fact that her magic doesn't cast a glow)
*An Earth Pony sniper (maybe codenamed "Tombstone"?)
*A Pegasus pilot for a vertibuck or something along those lines
*And True Blue as the captain and backup muscle with his power armor (which will later become his soul's prison)
[7/26/2014 12:29:55 AM] Cherry Bloom: Sounds good. So part of it actually is writing what happened to the characters during the war. Writing out scenes and the like. then breaking up the wuring the war story into pieces to be in memory orbs or audio logs and the like. So you're not wrong for wanting to write about these times.
[7/26/2014 12:31:40 AM] : I actually started working on a piece with this team, it follows Alicia sneaking in to check a suspected Zebra talisman lab, she goes in to check the place and when it all goes to shit they drop Blue in through the ceiling
[7/26/2014 12:33:47 AM] : sounds awesome!
====Weaponry====
[7/26/2014 12:35:31 AM | Edited 12:35:37 AM] : also, what do you think of the idea of Alicia getting a new rapier forged during the war with an enchantment that creates a poison to prevent blood clotting (and, of course, having the Legacies find said weapon)?
[7/26/2014 12:36:28 AM] : enchantment or built-in talisman
[7/26/2014 12:36:37 AM | Edited 12:36:48 AM] Cherry Bloom: Sure, a blood thinner sort of thing to promote bleed.
[7/26/2014 12:37:05 AM] : maybe even have her use both swords on the battlefield. "Snow and Sting"
[7/26/2014 12:56:15 AM] : So one is an ice tailsman?
[7/26/2014 12:57:17 AM] : I was thinking it might, but the sword is already named "First Snow," regardless
[7/26/2014 12:57:47 AM] : maybe they find it and the talisman has been left unattended for so long that it's frozen a big chunk of land around it
[7/26/2014 1:15:42 AM] : Could be interesting.
[7/26/2014 1:58:34 AM] : also was tossing around the idea of having Alicia learn her talisman stuff from Zecora and then having their raid on that facility turn up some of the first 'evidence' of her being a traitor
think that idea has any potential?
[7/26/2014 1:59:40 AM] : Lots.
[7/26/2014 2:00:27 AM] : rockin'
===Lore's Gemini===
[7/29/2014 8:53:40 PM] : I will be adding the Gemini twisn to Legacies, they will be before the bombs fall though with no descendents
[7/29/2014 9:09:28 PM] : ..how far into PH are you?
[7/29/2014 9:09:37 PM] : XD
[7/29/2014 9:12:34 PM] : she's well past that point.
[7/29/2014 9:12:55 PM] : I'm on 18 and that's in previous chapters.
[7/29/2014 9:13:59 PM] : Well
[7/29/2014 9:14:07 PM] : thats why I want them prewar
[7/29/2014 9:14:08 PM] : with no descendents ^^:
[7/29/2014 9:14:24 PM] : *twins
[7/29/2014 9:14:34 PM] : Haha, gotcha. As long as you know they're there.
[7/29/2014 9:15:00 PM] : Yeah I do =p
[7/29/2014 9:15:06 PM] : I am 29 chapters in or something
[7/29/2014 9:15:13 PM] : I havent read it in awhile granted ^^:
[7/29/2014 9:16:03 PM | Edited 9:16:08 PM] : My Gemini Twins (As opposed to PH) would be working in the Ministry of Image, in particular with some of its lesser public projects such as Soul Jar's
[7/29/2014 9:18:40 PM] : Sounds like that'll be fun to work with
[7/29/2014 9:51:22 PM] : also gives us opportunity for how to learn about them, given True Blue's fate
[7/29/2014 9:52:17 PM] : That's what I was thinking.
[8/1/2014 10:05:37 AM] : Could I please get a link to the Gemini twins cuties on your sta.sh?
[8/1/2014 10:13:34 AM] : http://sta.sh/21y0gws3ndhm
[8/1/2014 10:16:09 AM] : Have you made entries for them on the luneria wiki? Could also upload them there so you'll have a more easily accessed place to get them.
[8/1/2014 10:17:48 AM] : ah I will do that in the near future, was just deciding on some final details for them both
[8/1/2014 10:18:03 AM] : Cherry Bloom hugs by the way!
[8/1/2014 10:18:23 AM] : Now that they will be in Legacies i kinda feel they have earned a spot on the wiki instead of just being put there with no relation to luneria
[8/1/2014 10:18:26 AM] : Berru huggles!
===True Blue===
====And Alicia====
====True Blue's Fate====
[7/12/2014 12:54:42 PM] : Like Blue got fried in the living armor process and his soul was split into two, being partially in his sword and the other in the suit. the part in the sword being seemingly dormant outside of a few odd qualities about the sword. tmost of it is in the suit which animates it and gives it some of his abilities, but his "humanity"/"moral center" what have you is in the sword. and at some point the soul is reunited in the sword when the sword gets run through the seemingly mindless suit.
[7/12/2014 12:55:20 PM] : When reunited the sword becomes one of those magic items with a personality and the ability to change the element the sword is enchanted with.
[7/12/2014 12:56:20 PM] : But there's no ability to be vocal in either the suit or the sword so its a scene where the mane characters of legacies will have to figure out what happened. possibly through more audio logs or memory orbs or something.
[7/29/2014 9:53:42 PM] : question, is True Blue still... y'know... inside the armor?
[7/29/2014 10:01:24 PM] : As in...?
[7/29/2014 10:01:59 PM] : are his remains entombed within a roving piece of nigh-indestructible rage-fueled armor?
[7/29/2014 10:02:01 PM] : XD
[7/29/2014 10:05:35 PM] : Like the Harnesses from Old World Blues?
erk... Well I just sorta made it so it'd be rather fitting.
[7/29/2014 10:05:54 PM] : precisely
[7/29/2014 10:07:02 PM] : my thinking was that when the process was complete, the suit wanted True Blue to be inside of it, but was insane and so forceful that it wound up killing True Blue (and likely the researchers performing the transfer) in the confusion
[7/29/2014 10:07:50 PM] : after that it's either contained until after the bombs fell, or escapes and is lost out in Equestria when it happens
[7/29/2014 10:10:08 PM] : Killing true blue?
[7/29/2014 10:10:28 PM] : yeah, didn't we have him dying when the suit went haywire?
[7/29/2014 10:12:47 PM] : I was thinking he might have "died" in the process since they tried splitting his sould into two sould jars. so part of his soul is in the armor and part is in his sword that' returned to his family and Cascade winds up with it. like they were trying to transfer all of his soul into the armor leaving behind a veritable vegitable. his sense of "self" is in the sword and the rest is in the armor. without the self the armor does go beserk.
[7/29/2014 10:14:24 PM] : Eventually the two parts are reunited in the sword (because the armor winds up being badly damaged in the process) Now this doesn't mean any sort of reliable communication with True Blue. He's effectively gone. It just means an upgrade to the sword as now it is an indestructable sword that can switch elemental properties.
[7/29/2014 10:14:46 PM] : I suppose killing the body could be what you meant. yeah.
[7/29/2014 10:15:12 PM] : It was trying to get the self back not fully realizing that the self was in the sword rather than the body.
[7/29/2014 10:15:34 PM] : It was Lenny
[7/29/2014 10:15:45 PM] : it just wanted the bunnies...
[7/29/2014 10:15:51 PM] : Yeah.
[7/29/2014 10:16:00 PM] : haha, that's pretty dark, sounds perfect
[7/29/2014 10:17:55 PM] : I also feel like the creation of the first soul jar would damage Blue in a way, especially if it's a large part of his sense of self
[7/29/2014 10:18:23 PM] : perhaps make him more distant and irrational, maybe that's why he's reckless enough to do it again?
[7/29/2014 10:18:51 PM] : That works.
[7/29/2014 10:19:08 PM] : rockin'
==Post-War==
===Cherry Bot===
[7/18/2014 2:49:46 PM] : So... revisiting the robot idea...
[7/18/2014 2:52:13 PM] : It's not fully her, since she's still partially in the sleep like stasis.
[7/18/2014 2:53:54 PM] : We could do a pyrovision/Little Sister vision thing so she's not fully aware of what's going on so couldn't ... be a more figurative ... of what she literally would be...
[7/18/2014 2:55:08 PM] : She wouldn't be able to tell them of the past since she's not fully aware.
[7/18/2014 2:57:08 PM] : that could work, or even just having a connection to somepony's PipBuck, now that I think about it
[7/18/2014 2:58:31 PM] : The bot would be swapped for the actul Cherry, perhaps have a gap where the bot was either destroyed or badly damaged. Give the Legacies a Chance to bond with this shade of cherry before they encounter the real thing. Might add to the dramatic tension when she reveals herself and isn't quite the same.
[7/18/2014 2:59:16 PM] : yeah... I kind of like the idea.
[7/18/2014 3:05:05 PM] : So on the note its badly damaged, but given the time bonding with it they don't want to just discard it, it can also still store items for them, they take it back to Luneria (when they return) and when they take it down to the maintenence area an algorythm triggers to start in an automated repair on the bot. Hadn't been needed before the bot was never damaged that badly. in so doing something shifts revealing the passageway to the chamber where Cherry actually is. Not being aware that she sorta was the bot and still expecting a full sized alicorn when they finally figure out the clues to where Cherry is.
[7/18/2014 3:05:23 PM] : That way the bot could be repaired and used as a character for something else if we should need it.
===The Legacies===
====Cascade====
=====And Toxic Heart=====
[7/21/2014 6:40:59 PM] : Cascade's a sword user.
[7/21/2014 6:41:26 PM] : He might even be Toxi's sensei on the matter of sneak and melee weapons.
[7/21/2014 6:41:36 PM] : Well...
[7/21/2014 6:41:38 PM] : melee weapons
[7/21/2014 6:41:56 PM] : Cascade and Toxi are like Samurai and Ninja
[7/21/2014 6:42:07 PM] : ..pretty much yeah XD:
[7/21/2014 6:43:01 PM] : She teaches him Sneak, he teaches her Melee. And he's the one that vouches for her joining the party despite being a foal.
[7/21/2014 6:43:05 PM] : Toxic would align as Chaotic Good i guess, but her own take of good which may not perfectly align with others.
[7/21/2014 6:43:40 PM] : I did want to bring up a tribe of blood drinking bats at some stage,
[7/21/2014 6:43:42 PM] : Sort of like Cherry who's either True Neutral or the actual pure good (Neutral Good).
[7/21/2014 6:43:49 PM] : I was thinking she and Dullahan would sneak along with the others and not be noticed until it was too late XD
[7/21/2014 6:44:11 PM] : And then Cascade could vouch for her when the inevitable argument broke out
[7/21/2014 6:44:32 PM | Edited 6:45:20 PM] : when Moxy inevitably calls for them to be brought back
[7/21/2014 6:45:16 PM]  : I think that works rather well for me, Cascade may be knowledgable about her being a blood drinker aswell but his honor may prevent him from informing the others.
[7/21/2014 6:45:32 PM] : "A ponies path should be her own"
=====And the Valkyries=====
[8/4/2014 12:04:55 PM] : Another thought that crossed my mind was having one of them become Cascade's love interest or something. Since that seems to be something that happens in Fallout Equestria. (Glory seems rather interested in Blakckjack, and then there was Little Pip and Homage.)
[8/4/2014 8:15:46 PM] : I'm also growing attached to the idea of her and Cascade winding up together. Bringing in outside blood to continue the Blue and or Water themed names to the family.
[8/6/2014 1:35:01 PM] : What did you think of the idea of Cascade getting a love interest from amongst the Valkyrie?
[8/6/2014 1:35:36 PM] : fine by me, would he be staying behind then? or is she coming with them?
[8/6/2014 1:35:41 PM] : long-distance relationship?
[8/6/2014 1:35:44 PM] : those never work out...
[8/6/2014 1:35:46 PM] : XD
[8/6/2014 1:39:45 PM] : Him staying behind would decrease the number of characters to keep track of. Her coming with would add a higher powered character for "the good fight".
Conversation continues with [The Mirror]
====Dullahan====
[1:57:15 AM | Edited 1:57:45 AM] : also, I was thinking of the idea that, after they discover the destruction of Luneria, Dullahan gets mad blaming Moxy/Channeler/Whoever for the desctruction of their home and decides to go off on her own, some of the others going with her while everypony else continued with the mission
this would split the story between the mane group with the World Tree, while also giving us a B-arc of the other group surviving and Dullahan making a go of it with her music
[1:58:18 AM] : then having them rejoin later on
[1:58:27 AM] : That works.
[1:59:38 AM] : so far though, I'm thinking that everypony if anypony would go with Dullahan except for Moxy, Little Seed, and Channeler
[1:59:54 AM] : I don't see the others splitting up
[2:00:11 AM] : Cherry Bloom, Cascade, Toxic Heart, Wolfberry...
====Toxic Heart====
[7/16/2014 10:11:24 PM] : • {Basics}
◆ Name: Toxic Heart
◆ Age: 8
♦ Birth date: 2273
◆ Sex: Filly
◆ Species: Pony
♦ Race: Bat Pony
◆ Cutie Mark: Purple bubbling heart
♦ Naturally talented with toxin brewing (Love is poison)
◆ Description: More of a listener than a speaker, this is not to be mistaken with shyness she simply finds little use in pointless talking. Often seeming dettached she is a difficult pony to read, some may mistake this for simple stupidity, Often speaks with an intelligence beyond her years, offering insight or wise words unexpected of one her age, this unfortunately can be shown in quick retorts to others.  Fluent in sarcasm.
=====On Blood=====
[7/21/2014 6:49:21 PM] : one rule though, no drinking blood from Raiders. If its crazy its tainted.
[7/21/2014 6:50:05 PM | Edited 6:50:13 PM] : I wonder if any goup has incorporated that one quest line.
[7/21/2014 6:50:21 PM] : kind of... I mean
[7/21/2014 6:50:22 PM]  : I had thought Toxic being caught out exactly before taking that very action, which is kind of where everything comes out into the open.
[7/21/2014 6:50:22 PM] : Arbu
[7/21/2014 6:50:32 PM | Edited 6:50:47 PM] : though she made it Andale instead of Arefu
[7/21/2014 6:50:50 PM]  : The Raider disease was only PH wasn't it?
[7/21/2014 6:50:54 PM] : yeah
[7/21/2014 6:50:59 PM] : Moxy knew exactly which sub-plot I was referring to
[7/21/2014 6:51:03 PM] : :D
[7/21/2014 6:51:12 PM] : Yeah, but PH is one of the big stories.
[7/21/2014 6:51:26 PM] : Stepping on hooves and all that.
[7/21/2014 6:52:04 PM]  : Yeah I know, and I still support the raiders disease though I don't think it covers all Raiders i guess
[7/21/2014 6:52:12 PM]  : Or Arbu wouldn't of made sense at all
[7/21/2014 6:52:19 PM] : wait.. no not that quest Moxy the other one in the train tunnels
[7/21/2014 6:52:22 PM] : the raider disease is only present in raiders in Hoofington, I think
[7/21/2014 6:52:30 PM] : yeah, Arefu
[7/21/2014 6:52:53 PM]  : Ahh okay,
[7/21/2014 6:52:58 PM]  : Well..
[7/21/2014 6:55:04 PM]  : We could possibly use two with hacking knowledge
[7/21/2014 6:55:22 PM]  : Given pegasus terminals can only be acessed by Pegasus and alicorns,
[7/21/2014 6:55:23 PM] : yeah... But they didn't touch the questline even if they took the name of sorts.
[7/21/2014 9:44:25 PM]  : Reading up on the Family event in FO3, that would be a fun one to ponify
[7/21/2014 9:45:12 PM] : haha
[7/21/2014 9:45:20 PM] : that's the one CB and I were talking about earlier
[7/21/2014 9:45:29 PM]  : oh oops, sorry!
[7/21/2014 9:45:45 PM] : we didn't say specifics for anyone who hasn't played FO3 yet
[7/21/2014 9:45:58 PM] : but yeah, that's the Arefu questline
[7/21/2014 9:46:32 PM] : Kkat took the naming idea from Arefu and used it for Arbu, but based its questline on FO3's Andale
[7/21/2014 9:48:40 PM]  : Oh I see
[7/21/2014 9:48:56 PM]  : Though The Family is far different from KKat's take on them
[7/21/2014 9:49:19 PM] : like I said, she based it off of Andale instead
[7/21/2014 9:51:22 PM]  : >Strange meat
[7/21/2014 9:51:22 PM] : ew
[7/26/2014 1:42:34 AM] : given that the only other bat ponies I know of in Luneria are Ebon Heart and his descendents, I've realized there's a decent chance of Toxic Heart also being a descendent of Alicia/Ebon Heart
Meaning this:
[Friday, July 25, 2014 11:36 PM] :  <<< also, what do you think of the idea of Alicia getting a new rapier forged during the war with an enchantment that creates a poison to prevent blood clotting (and, of course, having the Legacies find said weapon)? Could be an interesting character moment with her.
=====And Cascade=====
===Valkyries===
[7/29/2014 8:20:13 PM] : So i had an idea for the ponification and incorporation into the Legacies story to add to the neighpon arc the MuvLuv Valkyries So a sort of Neighponese Power armor division (since although mechs/giant robots are cool, might not work out the best in a fallout setting. It would certainly add content.
[7/29/2014 8:26:36 PM] : like an elite pegasus power armored squad?
[7/29/2014 8:27:22 PM] : Haven't decided if they'll all be pegasai. but basically.
[7/31/2014 10:05:36 PM] : though I also wanna ask you all what you think of this so far:
http://luneria.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Equestria:Neighponese_Valkyries
[7/31/2014 10:06:04 PM] : -shrugs-
[7/31/2014 10:07:03 PM] : Making a new faction requires a LOT of characters to be made. I'm going to have to add more for those in actual command, instructors and the like.
[7/31/2014 10:10:47 PM] : Looks great so far!
[7/31/2014 10:10:54 PM] : I am loving all the colour palettes
[7/31/2014 10:10:55 PM] : Thankies! -^-^-
[8/4/2014 11:58:23 AM] : 'kay, right, that's something we need to cover..
[8/4/2014 11:59:00 AM] : when you first pitched the idea I was thinking it was pre-war, but I'm guessing they're actually Wastelanders then?
[8/4/2014 11:59:09 AM] : What's your plan for them?
[8/4/2014 11:59:12 AM] : Both
[8/4/2014 11:59:42 AM | Edited 12:00:11 PM] : Like the Steel Rangers, the Valkyries were the Neighpon division of power armor users. the ones I'm currently designing are the wastelanders.
[8/4/2014 12:00:10 PM] : cool.
[8/4/2014 12:00:21 PM] : do they have a mission like the Rangers do?
[8/4/2014 12:02:57 PM] : Haven't decided too much about them. just that it makes sense if Equestria has an Enclave and Steel Rangers that Neighpon should have some factions to play a part, either as allies or as antagonists. One thing I was thinking about was that the Valkyrie could be a division of a larger organization, Like the Voulenteer corps of the enclave. And maybe during Legacies the Valkyrie might gwet fed up with the larger organization acting like the enclave and break off to assist the Legacies. But we don't have to use that idea.
[8/4/2014 12:03:47 PM] : They're there as playing pieces. I'd like for them to be good guys since they were the good guys in their original story. But they still need to fit into the story of Legacies.
[8/4/2014 12:04:55 PM] : Another thought that crossed my mind was having one of them become Cascade's love interest or something. Since that seems to be something that happens in Fallout Equestria. (Glory seems rather interested in Blakckjack, and then there was Little Pip and Homage.)
[8/4/2014 12:06:24 PM | Edited 12:06:40 PM] :
[8/4/2014 12:04 PM] :
<<< And maybe during Legacies the Valkyrie might gwet fed up with the larger organization acting like the enclave and break off to assist the Legacies.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Brotherhood_of_Steel_(Capital_Wasteland)
[8/4/2014 12:07:21 PM] : Exactly what I was thinking.
[8/4/2014 12:07:47 PM] : I love the brotherhood of steel in FO3 and FO:NV.
====And the... Enclave?!====
[1:18:33 PM] : Though it is possible to have some of the idea in the story, with haveing a splinter group of the enclave in Neighpon that are at odds with the Valkyries. it helps to provide an enemy/antagonist faction.
[1:20:04 PM] : That kind of begs the question to me.. should we put SPP towers in Neighpon as well?
[1:20:48 PM] : possibly operating on a different circuit, to explain why Homage had no access?
[1:21:16 PM] : Well, cool and dark does help promote growth of fungal forms of plant life.
[1:21:49 PM] : a Neighponese branch of the Enclave... seperate, but still connected to the Equestrian Enclave?
[1:21:58 PM] : hmm... I think we can do that
====And the Legacies====
=====Cascade=====
====Members====
=====Dazzling Edge/Ayamine Kei=====
[7/31/2014 1:08:30 AM] : ...
[7/31/2014 1:08:31 AM] : ...
[7/31/2014 1:08:39 AM] : Well based off these colors...
[7/31/2014 1:09:28 AM] : http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110905010249/muvluv/images/0/07/K2.jpg
I think I'm going to have a "splitting image of"
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131015231153/mlpfanart/images/2/25/Octavia_is_best_pony..._hands_down_38bc073283e02e7af8608448c857d150.png
[7/31/2014 10:07:50 PM] : One of the characters being ponified has the same hair and eye color as octavia... as it turns out.
[7/31/2014 10:10:01 PM] : Dazzling Edge XD
[7/31/2014 10:10:30 PM] : yeah. she's really passionate about yakisoba bread.
=====Lunar Mist/Hayase Mitsuki=====
[7/29/2014 10:03:28 PM] : I decided I want to have the Valkyries mixed species. One of which (and the first I decided on the species and only have a cutie mark left to decide) is a bat pony based on Hayse Mistuki with the Equestrian Name "Moon Water".
[7/29/2014 10:03:59 PM] : I know what her special Talent will be I just need to figure out how to translate that into a cutie mark.
[7/29/2014 11:15:29 PM] : Lore are the colors okay for the projected bat pony?
http://luneria.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Equestria:Neighponese_Valkyries
[2014/07/29 22:27:22] : They loook good! Such blue
[2014/07/29 22:27:47] : Yay! Also I learned to day that bats can indeed swim.
[2014/07/29 22:28:46] : yep!
[2014/07/29 22:29:00] : I watched a good if traumatic at he time of a little battie trying to get a fish
[8/03/2014 9:54:37 PM] : So, Cutie mark Idea, not sure how much I like it.
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2014/215/f/4/hayasemitsuki_by_creshosk-d7tlgsu.png
[8/03/2014 9:55:28 PM] : Who's this for?
[8/03/2014 9:56:39 PM] : Misty
http://luneria.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Equestria:Neighponese_Valkyries
[8/03/2014 10:04:05 PM] : Ah, OK
[8/03/2014 10:04:25 PM] : I'm guessing the Valkyries are the ponies the Legacies meet when they travel to Neighpon?
[8/03/2014 10:04:42 PM] : Yeah.
[8/03/2014 10:05:56 PM] : Sweet :)
[8/03/2014 10:13:11 PM] : Think I'm going to try redesigning Misty's Cutie Mark. Not incredibly keen on the one I just made.
[8/03/2014 10:14:07 PM] : Yeah, it does look...a bit messy and hard to make out
[8/03/2014 10:14:21 PM] : I take it that it is meant to be a kanji
[8/03/2014 10:14:47 PM] : The kanji for Swim.
[8/03/2014 10:16:02 PM] : Ah, I see
[8/03/2014 10:16:15 PM] : You could always give her a swimming goggles cutie mark
[8/03/2014 10:16:43 PM] : I was thinking about a design involving making a bat out of water droplets.
[8/03/2014 10:17:16 PM] : I'd probably need to include a cap with the goggles to help distinguish them as swimmers goggles.
[8/03/2014 10:18:36 PM] : True
[8/03/2014 10:18:46 PM] : Pffft
[8/03/2014 10:19:03 PM | Edited 10:19:15 PM] : Maybe you could make the CM a picture of Haru from Free! Iwatobi Swim Club
[8/03/2014 10:20:17 PM] : I don't know if having a picture of a human would work very well.
[8/03/2014 10:22:35 PM] : Fair enough
[8/03/2014 10:22:44 PM] : If you wanted to get SUPER cryptic
[8/03/2014 10:22:59 PM] : You could have the CM be of a butterfly with an aquatic pattern
[8/03/2014 10:23:08 PM | Edited 10:23:23 PM] : To represent butterfly stroke
[8/03/2014 10:27:20 PM] : I'm going a step further. with the Batstroke.
[8/03/2014 10:27:39 PM] : Ah, very clever
[8/03/2014 10:28:47 PM] : though in this case it actually involves the bat wings. Doesn't need to worry about her feathers getting wet.
[8/03/2014 11:23:17 PM] : http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2014/215/3/5/hayasemitsuki_by_creshosk-d7tlgsu.png
[8/03/2014 11:23:45 PM] : Wow I love that
[11:56:15 AM] : So did you see this?
http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2014/215/3/5/hayasemitsuki_by_creshosk-d7tlgsu.png
[11:57:01 AM] : and yes, I did, whose is that again?
[11:58:05 AM] : One of the Valkyries for the Neighpon Arc of Legacies.
=====Rising Star/Isumi Michiru=====
[7/31/2014 10:09:25 PM] : I love Rising Star
[8/4/2014 1:22:42 PM] : I think I might turn Rising Star over to Lore if Lore wants her.
*Hour Glass Cutie Mark
*Stars in Cutie Mark
*Pinkish color
*the word Star in their name
*Additional reason I'm not at liberty to explain to anyone but her.
[8/4/2014 6:10:27 PM] : That is rather funny, though I would love to take care of her! (heart)
[8/9/2014 8:27:44 PM] : http://creshosk.deviantart.com/art/Rising-Star-474447390
So tweaked the design a little, turned her coat from salmon to pink. Made her mane redder.
Also had an idea about this pegasus, if Lore is open to it. Remember how we were talking about the possibility of an Enclave descendant of Berry? Well... What if...
[8/9/2014 8:30:38 PM] : Since the enclave has encountered the Neo-Neighponese squadron called the Valkyrie, what if during the course of 10 generations, the line moved over to Neo-Neighpon and Rising Star is a descendant of Berry Blast?
[8/9/2014 8:37:06 PM] : I actually really love that idea, and kind of an extra line of irony I guess is in initial conception Timestep was Berry's daughter, so while not the case now having a descendant with an hourglass cutie works rather well!
=Geopolitics=
[7/26/2014 2:11:53 AM | Edited 2:12:38 AM] : so, another idea that I've been pondering re:GeoPolitics
==Germaneigh and Prance==
:: Germaneigh and Prance are not fond of one another, and while they've recently calmed down enough to begin at least some trade, I can still see the possibility of Germaneigh throwing in on the side of the Zebra nations and engaging in a (proxy) war with Prance, who is in on the side of Equestria
[7/26/2014 2:26:03 AM] : That's an interesting idea. more on the side of the zebra does make the war less onesided against them, makes them a more credible threat.
[7/26/2014 2:32:27 AM] : Precisely my thinking. And Germaneigh's diverse population, capitalistic mentality, and general disdain for the Fansie makes it the ideal candidate in my eyes
==A Link Between Worlds==
[8/06/2014 1:39:45 PM] : Could also have a thing where we incorporate The Mirror, developed more during the war as a way to move troops back and forth quickly. Lost functionality due to it needing to be "on" in both locations, and the neighponese one was disabled for some reason. Getting it working would mean a way to move back and forth quickly as needed in the story. Not sure where the locations would be. Possibly multiple with a way to select a destination. Could have one in canterlot if you're feeling brave enough. XD
[8/06/2014 1:41:15 PM] : hmm.. something like that seems like it would have been a pretty massive game changer in the war unless it had some pretty hefty limitations...
non-portable, I assume?
[8/06/2014 1:43:26 PM] : large-scale arcane device, it'd have to be pretty well set up and would likely be very costly to produce in terms of both materials and labor, on scale with a megaspell, I'd say.
They'd also want to keep it secret, so they'd limit production and probably keep it deep in Equestria.
So yeah, I think Canterlot would be the most likely location
[8/06/2014 1:43:39 PM] : any number of reasons, non-portable, development was too late to have enough of an effect or any other possible reasons it didn't get used.
[8/06/2014 1:44:59 PM] : this could work, but they'd need to find a way to power it.
it could probably be maintained with relatively minor energy, but establishing that link is gonna be costly
[8/06/2014 1:45:05 PM] : Three locations I can think of. Canterlot, One in Luneria and one somewhere in neighpon.
[8/06/2014 1:45:30 PM] : Otherwise somepony's going to have to go back to canterlot to make sure the thing is turned on and powered up.
[8/06/2014 1:46:39 PM] : Luneria one could be ignored by redeye because he thinks its simply a fancy mirror.. since the other gates are turned off. The one in canterlot would have been turned off once the city went into lockdown. No point in having allied ponies go into canterlot if you're protecting ponies from the pink cloud.
[8/06/2014 1:47:15 PM] : one in Luneria where it was being worked on initially. so that they could test the link to other gateways.
[8/06/2014 1:47:26 PM] : if the Lunerians know what the mirror is, I can see one of the security ponies destroying its location to keep it out of Redeye's hooves
[8/06/2014 1:48:10 PM] : oh wait...
[8/06/2014 1:48:22 PM] : if they knew about the mirror, they'd have just used that to escape Redeye
[8/06/2014 1:48:24 PM] : Only if they know. If Cherry's the only one that knows and didn't think about it... but like I mentioned earlier, without the others being active it'd just seem like a fancy mirror.
[8/06/2014 1:48:47 PM] : Have you played portal?
[8/06/2014 1:49:00 PM] : ja
[8/06/2014 1:49:30 PM] : You know how when you shoot the first portal you can't go through? you need the second portal active in order for it tofucntion as a portal.
[8/06/2014 1:49:41 PM] : Sure you can change where you want it to go...
[8/06/2014 1:49:53 PM] : but until both portals are out, its not of much use.
[8/06/2014 1:50:00 PM | Edited 1:50:18 PM] Moxypony: how do we handle a 3 gate network then?
[8/06/2014 1:50:42 PM] : Either with a Stargate like DHD, a wheel that turns like in Howl's moving castle, or needing to think about your location when you turn on the mirror.
[8/06/2014 1:50:52 PM] : Any possible number of ways.
[8/06/2014 1:52:46 PM] : Though the mirrors weren't totally non-portable. just very very difficult, and in a confined space like in a stable/lab its harder to get the tools you need in. So rather than wasting time and possible resources, Redeye ignored the mirror... unless you wouldn't mind having the legacies pop up in Fillydelphia. XD
[8/06/2014 1:53:29 PM] : But it could lead to a dramatic reveal moment if they go back to luneria down in the lab where nopony was anyway, and when they exit the stable they're greeted with... Luneria's fate.
[8/06/2014 1:55:09 PM] : so wait, are we talking like a standing wardrobe mirror or like an entire wall of mirrored surface on top of arcane foci?
[8/06/2014 1:55:37 PM] : whatever you want it to be.
[8/06/2014 1:56:03 PM] : I'd personally lean towards the latter, I like it being a clunky tech that was never really fine-tuned
[8/06/2014 1:56:42 PM | Edited 1:56:53 PM] Moxypony: maybe a coworking of MAS and MWT
[8/06/2014 1:56:49 PM] : also though something to think about with the neighponese one, is the valkyrie were either able to put the time and resources into moving the mirror to their base, or their base was where the mirror was set up initially. in either case they might not know what it is, just that it seems like a powerful arcane device.
[8/06/2014 1:57:36 PM] : so is this how we're having them get to Neighpon?
[8/06/2014 1:57:38 PM] : it being in their base and them not knowing about it makes sense. since it was going to be used to deploy troops, what better place to set it up than in a military base?
[8/06/2014 1:58:03 PM] : not to neighpon, but back from it. Like I said its needs to be turned on.
[8/06/2014 1:58:36 PM] : ah, their mode of transit to Neighpon becomes unusable to get back, I'm guessing?
[8/06/2014 1:58:39 PM] : Though that might be an amusing way to meet the valkyrie, I think that getting these more powerful allies should wait until they've seen the horrors of the neighponese wasteland
[8/06/2014 1:59:52 PM] : Possibly.
[8/06/2014 2:00:21 PM] : or it could be that the idea of walking through a portal in a place secured by allies is more palatable than traveling through the wasteland again.
[8/06/2014 2:01:58 PM] : or even a combination of things.
=Ghouls=
  
[7/19/2014 8:05:30 PM] : Fallout Equestira feral ghouls, some of the most colorful zombies you'll ever see.
==Beserker==
[7/19/2014 2:12:39 PM] : 'kay, here's what I'm thinking we might do
there are other Berserker Ghouls, but very very few as the amount of radiation exposure requred to create them normally destroyed ponies bodies before they could even ghoulify, but most Berserker Ghouls lose their sanity in the process, and it's only due to a risidual amount of the world tree's sap (in his ears, or something) that was Wolfberry's saving grace
how's that sound to you?
[7/19/2014 2:13:27 PM] : make them also a badass enemy we could have the team encounter
[7/19/2014 2:16:15 PM] :
[Saturday, July 19, 2014 1:48 PM] :
<<< something like the radiation simply supercharging his cells, maybe causing him to take on a heavy glow during the tranformation (but I'd also want to make him dangerously radioactive within a short radius during this period if that's the case)^ with this being the explanation for what's specifically happening?
[7/19/2014 2:25:53 PM] : Fairly close. One of the darngerous things about hostile ones is that they don't glow and give off radiation until they're up beyond the lethal level (1000 rads). So unlike glowing ones they' don't click until they're already super dangerous.
[7/19/2014 2:26:12 PM] : well detectors don't click
[7/19/2014 2:26:49 PM] : yeah, I'm thinking maybe the others can't metabolize the radiation as well as Wolfberry, so they're always (or almost) in berserker mode
[7/19/2014 2:27:09 PM] : If you're not cautious in an area that has one, you could wind up walking into one before you realize it.
[7/19/2014 2:27:52 PM] : they're just walking through town, minding their own business and one smashes through the wall in front of them. "welcome to Neighpon, motherbucker"
[7/19/2014 2:28:02 PM] : XD
[8/6/2014 2:08:01 PM | Edited 2:08:31 PM] : what if the Legacies found that a tiny hole had been drilled into the amber to Wolfberry and later discover that the Berserker ghoulification process was created as a result of sompony trying to replicate Wolfberry's strength using his (mutated) DNA?
[8/6/2014 2:08:27 PM] : That works.
[8/6/2014 2:08:48 PM] : rockable
===Equiyoto===
[7/16/2014 10:46:36 PM] : Also an idea of incorporating into the story a neighpon ghoul which is more akin to the clickers from The Last of Us, where by there are fungal parasites that have taken over the Ghoul ponies
[7/16/2014 11:07:35 PM] : Equiyoto Ghoul - Following the Balefire Holocaust in the Neighponese wasteland, a fungus within the Neighponese World Tree 'Sekaiju,' mutated to feed off of Balefire Radiation. It spent years growing within the tree, soaking up Balefire Radiation from the amber of the dead world tree.
Eventually, the fungus managed to release spores into the outside world, but the harsh wastes could not support their life. The spores could only survive by attatching themselves to the living creatures of the wasteland.
From this unholy union the Equiyoto Ghoul is born. The spore overtakes the pony's entire body over a period of time, bombarding their cells with radiation from the inside, those ponies who ghoulify become overtaken by the spore's need to seek out sources of radiation, and those who do not ghoulify are left in a puddle of pony in the Neighponese Wasteland.
[7/18/2014 8:26:49 AM] : Well I just finished drawing a really nasty looking pony.
[7/18/2014 8:27:36 AM] : http://luneria.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Equestria:Ghouls
[7/18/2014 8:32:37 AM | Edited 8:32:44 AM] : That's awesome but creepy
=Luneria=
==Departure==
[8/02/2014 2:22:27 AM | Edited 8/02/2014 2:25:06 AM] : so I was just thinking about Legacies, what do you think of this series of events?
#Legacies (or possibly just a few of them) leave town following Little Seed's intuition, find the Tree of Harmony (overgrown with Killing Joke or some other deadly plant, or just dead)
#They return to Luneria, but during the trip find the old MoP Hub, a Stable-Tec building, and I'm thinking maybe an addition to the city that wasn't protected from the plants?
#Using the info they find at the Stable-Tec office, they find Cherry Bloom and remove her from the Stable.
#Cherry Bloom tells them about the other World Trees, so the gang rigs an old pre-war train and uses a bubble of Little Seed's plant magic to ride it through the forest.
#The train crashes in the wasteland when they escape, so they have no means of getting back through to Luneria, they continue their adventure.
#After the Neighpon Arc (or somewhere in that area) they return to find Red Eye has burned Luneria to the ground.
[8/02/2014 2:27:39 AM] : That works rather well. Though the part I would question is the new untrained shaman using the weakened Gaia's magic to get through the killing joke. Instead maybe finding  some place information about poison joke having been weaponized into the killing joke and the method of control in a spray made of the mutated Star Euphonious  phantasmal flowers? The makes Little seed look a little less "I can overcome this deadly obstacle because reasons" thing. perhaps at a later time after she's had more time to get a hold of things (and possibly little restorations of plants to help Gaia a bit more she'd be able to do it later?
[8/02/2014 2:28:21 AM] : I'm just a bit worried as her coming across too OP without an explanation that the... less intelligent/accepting in the fandom would have an easier time accepting?
[8/02/2014 2:29:04 AM] : if that makes sense? Not saying she shouldn't be able to ever or anything like that, but It'd be interesting if they had to get through some killing joke later on when things had more of a chance to "level up".
[8/02/2014 2:29:19 AM] : hmm.. or maybe a mechanical solution? some sort of addition to the car that would allow it to tear through?
[8/02/2014 2:29:37 AM] : though I do like the idea of them finding research on evolution of poison joke from before the bombs fell
[8/02/2014 2:29:56 AM] : Big ol' lawnmower spinning blades of killer planty death?
[8/02/2014 2:30:21 AM] : haha, I was thinking of something more like a machete-edged cow catcher, but whatever works
[8/02/2014 2:30:40 AM] : we're crashing it anyway.
[8/02/2014 2:30:42 AM] : haha
[8/02/2014 2:31:06 AM] : yeah. the spinning turn you into mulchy blades would help versus tensile strength of plant build up.
[8/02/2014 2:32:11 AM] : And no flame throwers. flame throwers + forest linked plants would lead to red eye getting beaten to the punch on burning Luneria down.
[8/02/2014 2:33:18 AM] : plus if you want after the crash there's easier to use metal parts that could be used as salvage for repair or barter.
[8/02/2014 2:33:59 AM] : not necessarily spark batteries or fancy things like that, since its just rotating blades, just need a gear system
==Luneria's Fate==
[6/11/2014 6:01:59 PM] : considering her illusion magic would be the only thing preventing the town from being discovered by Red Eye's army, it might be better to hold off on them finding Cherry Bloom until after the events surrounding the Cathedral go down
[6/11/2014 6:09:43 PM] : Makes perfect sense. also for that reason it might be best to wait to start out until after that point in the mane story. so that they don't run into any one. and if there's enough commotion from the event that might be something that draws the group out initially.
[6/11/2014 6:10:26 PM] : my plan was for them to start their journey before then, they're caught outside during the conflict, and return to find Luneria after
[6/11/2014 6:23:04 PM] : I imagine they left after Littlepip, so they spent less time in the wasteland prior to the whole war thing
[6/11/2014 6:23:57 PM] : is the eff/cathedral part mentioned?
[6/11/2014 6:24:21 PM] : if you can find that you have a narrowed field to look through fin reference to timing of events.
[6/11/2014 6:25:49 PM] : I think the Cathedral is destroyed in Chapter 43
[6/11/2014 6:27:28 PM] : okay, this is gonna get complicated unless we want them involved in the fight with the Enclave...
[7/18/2014 2:44:04 PM] : So a good chunk of the story won't involve Cherry bloom?
[7/18/2014 2:45:28 PM] : yeah, like I said, she's gonna have to come in later in the story
[7/18/2014 2:45:53 PM] : it's a necessity, given Luneria's perilous location
[7/18/2014 2:46:26 PM] : That's kind of sad. I was hoping she'd get to venture out with the group for some locations involving the remains of some of her freinds that didn't get laid to rest.
[7/18/2014 2:47:33 PM] : well... there's one way to do that and still keep within an arc that won't make their quest completely moot
[7/18/2014 2:47:39 PM] : fail Luneria
[7/18/2014 2:48:02 PM] : come back and find the town destroyed, could push them into the 'Good Fight'
[7/18/2014 2:48:27 PM] : that'd be pretty Fallout Equestria
[7/18/2014 2:48:28 PM] : XD
[7/18/2014 2:49:09 PM] : Fallout Equestria isn't that bad. I mean there are town that areestablished that don't get completely destroyed.
[7/27/2014 10:10:18 PM] : Trying to think of the easiest way to word this, but I had some concerns about Luneria after the bombs fell. That while I feel making it so descendents can survive is rather vital, its a little too perfect I guess?
[7/27/2014 10:11:15 PM | Edited 10:11:26 PM] : Finding a reason to make them leave is going to be difficult, as save the Enclave, Luneria is essentially a utopia in the wasteland
[7/27/2014 10:12:11 PM] : As Stables tend to be as well, difference being they're underground.
[7/27/2014 10:12:23 PM] : I could be way off, but thats just been my view on it of late. I worry for the sake of story.
[7/27/2014 10:12:51 PM | Edited 10:13:03 PM] : Yes, but they often have experiments that offer some negative we kind of half sidesteped that but our stable isn't even needed
[7/27/2014 10:13:06 PM] :
[Sunday, July 27, 2014 10:12 PM] :
<<< Finding a reason to make them leave is going to be difficult, as save the Enclave, Luneria is essentially a utopia in the wastelandthe reason is the world tree, though it's just Little Seed's intuition guiding them at first
[7/27/2014 10:13:31 PM] : they'd also know practically nothing about what the wasteland is really like, just sort of a vague concept
[7/27/2014 10:14:16 PM] : That is also my worry, given they have lived such an oblivious life so far the likelyhood of most of them being slaughtered instantly is pretty high
[7/27/2014 10:14:19 PM] : that, and at this point I'm planning on making Luneria (at least early post-war Luneria) less of a utopia
[7/27/2014 10:15:11 PM] : I wouldn't rule out the possibility of more than one Legacy dying during the story
[7/27/2014 10:15:34 PM | Edited 10:15:37 PM] : Unless you were planning on the utopia thing being a part of the story, and others trying to force the Lunerian's from it to claim it as their own?
[7/27/2014 10:15:44 PM] : but LittlePip and Blackjack made it out okay, and the folks from Luneria would have more experience with danger than they did
[7/27/2014 10:15:55 PM] : Plus Cherry Bot.
[7/27/2014 10:17:11 PM] : I was thinking of the idea of some sort of radioactive debris falling up river, the ponies in town aren't aware of it because the radiation levels rise slowly, but eventually a decent portion of the population is sterilized or made sick before they realize the river is the problem
[7/27/2014 10:17:33 PM] : They have a fully functioning stable with an experiment that offers no true downside, an township also availabke that will offer further land, despite living in one of the most dangerous places in Equestria they are protected-I understand the Killing Joke being stopped but everything else puzzles me, you want them to have no cloud cover,
[7/27/2014 10:17:35 PM] : but that's something else entirely
[7/27/2014 10:18:01 PM] : Not all of the stables were experiments. Some were just survival stables.
[7/27/2014 10:18:22 PM] : Like stable 2 where you had some Stable-tech family.
[7/27/2014 10:18:24 PM | Edited 10:18:27 PM] : no, I think it was stated in the original story that the Everfree wasn't affected by the Pegasi
[7/27/2014 10:18:37 PM] : if I'm wrong, that's fine, that's just what I remember
[7/27/2014 10:19:05 PM] : I've bene over Everfree's FOE Wiki page which offered no help either way there
[7/27/2014 10:19:28 PM] : yeah, I imagine we'll have to reread the early chapters of Fo:E to find out
[7/27/2014 10:19:34 PM] : I don't really care that much either way
[7/27/2014 10:19:49 PM] : Again could just be my take
[7/27/2014 10:19:57 PM] : But while the characters themselves are fine
[7/27/2014 10:20:08 PM] : Its kind of like they are starting at the most perfect point
[7/27/2014 10:20:34 PM] : Moxypony shrugs
[7/27/2014 10:20:53 PM] : there's mutated flora and fauna all around them, they might be safe but they're trapped in a cage
[7/27/2014 10:21:10 PM] : Technically that's usually the way vault dweller stories work. Everything is hunky dory until...
- Velvet Remedy left, thus causing Little Pip to go out looking for her.
- Stable 99's Overmare opened the stable doors
- The waterchip broke
- Dad left the vault
[7/27/2014 10:21:29 PM] : They still have the over ground, so as far as caged goes they already beat Stables
[7/27/2014 10:21:32 PM] : Yeah figuring out how to get out is the tricky part.
[7/27/2014 10:22:55 PM] : part of me likes the idea of a secret underground railway built by Stable-Tec to bring certain officials to the observation stable
[7/27/2014 10:23:19 PM] : the team uncovers it and uses it to leave, maybe it's destroyed in the process so they can't just take an easy road home
[7/27/2014 10:23:47 PM] : But they'd still need to get back IN somehow.
[7/27/2014 10:24:31 PM] : yup, but if we don't have them going back until after RedEye torches the surrounding area, their way home would be a bit safer than the way out was
[7/27/2014 10:24:48 PM] : True.
[7/27/2014 10:24:52 PM | Edited 10:24:54 PM] : Though that will leave Luneria more exposed?
[7/27/2014 10:25:01 PM] : What will?
[7/27/2014 10:25:11 PM] :
[Sunday, July 27, 2014 10:25 PM] :
<<< RedEye torches the surrounding area,
[7/27/2014 10:26:24 PM] : yup, Luneria after that point (and Cherry Bloom's subsequent removal from the stable) will render Luneria an ordinary town
[7/27/2014 10:26:45 PM] : which means, as of midway through the story, it's probably got an expiration date
[7/27/2014 10:27:28 PM] : So at some point we might want to include the idea of retaking ponyville. Cleaning it up and having the surviving lunerians move there.
[7/27/2014 10:27:54 PM] : or, simply take the short road.
[7/27/2014 10:28:19 PM] : remove Cherry Bloom from the stable a lot sooner and have the destruction of their home become a true driving point for the characters.
[7/27/2014 10:28:33 PM] : it's brutal, but very Fallout Equestria
[7/27/2014 10:28:44 PM] : in fact, it seems to happen every time...
[7/27/2014 10:29:18 PM] : Well that's not exclusive to what I said about the surviving ones being moved to Ponyville at some point. even if there's a needed rescue from REd Eye's operations.. but that was all the way in fillydelphia wasn't it?
[7/27/2014 10:30:04 PM] : The last Raider's encampment in Ponyville is only cleared out by Little Pip near the very end of her adventures.
[8/02/2014 2:41:48 AM] : I think he'll like our ideas, though the destruction of Luneria might be hard..
[8/02/2014 2:45:44 AM] : I'm willing to let that one go, as the destruction of whole towns outside of the "player character"'s actions actually doesn't come up a lot. though its debatable if removing Cherry from stasis counts to something like Removing Mr. House or detonating the megaton bomb. most of the town destructions occured during the war or the protagonist had a hand/hoof in it.
Unless you can recall a time in Fallout/FO:E when a faction completely destroyed a town without the player's involvment after the story started?
[8/02/2014 2:45:52 AM] : because I might be mistaken.
[8/02/2014 2:46:39 AM] : well, removing Cherry would constitute a form of involvement
[8/02/2014 2:46:53 AM] : it's because her magic was gone that Redeye was able to find the town
[8/02/2014 2:47:18 AM] : the team chose to add a powerful member to the party, because of that, said character wasn't there to defend the town
[8/02/2014 2:47:27 AM] : choice and consequence
[8/02/2014 2:49:00 AM] : Yeah. I'm fine with either way. Depending on what the group decides.
[8/02/2014 2:50:08 AM] : Though if we do destroy the town, I would like for there to be some rescuable survivors that we might be able to move to a settlement. so like, not an entire loss. even an 80% loss means 20% survival. and 90 means 10.
[8/02/2014 2:50:46 AM] :
[Friday, August 01, 2014 11:56 PM] :
<<< yeah, most of them would probably survive
...it wouldn't be a good life, but they'd live
Redeye's a slaver, he'd only kill as many as he had to
[2:51:16 AM | Edited 2:51:26 AM] : I figure most of the casualties would be the security force. Moxy's team.
[2:52:26 AM] : Possibly. But yeah. Fallout might be rather dark, but the end, if done right, can be rather bright too. Even if the protagonist has to earn their happy ending.
[2:52:35 AM] : or Bittersweet.
==Other Luneria/Stable Things==
[7/12/2014 12:58:15 PM] : hmm... this whole Secret Vault thing actually gives me some new ideas...
[7/12/2014 12:58:45 PM] : Yeah?
[7/12/2014 1:00:45 PM] : maybe there were a large number Stable-Tec researchers/higher ups living or working in Luneria and the facility was intended for them, hiding a research facility under the Stable that the locals don't even know about.
Mayhaps an altercation between them and the natives somewhere in the past might help in explaining Luneria's militaristic defense policies.
[7/12/2014 1:05:20 PM] : throwing ideas at the wall at this point, I'm still unsure on how we're going to want to handle the details
Moxypony
[7/12/2014 1:08:16 PM] : It's perfect if you wanted to include some reference to the real world Japanese tech savvy into the mlp world since we have the Neihghponese thing going.
[7/12/2014 1:10:04 PM] : Plus it could help explain why the MLP world goes from tudor with a few oddities like video games to actual robots and pipbucks. it might be mostly spell based but there's still the physical unit to condut the magic matricies as specific spells. the interactive feedback trather than simple triggers.
[7/12/2014 1:12:33 PM] : Plus this guy:
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120305023439/mlp/images/archive/b/b0/20120310014658!Gizmo_cutie_mark_S2E19.png
==Stable Number==
[7/12/2014 12:38:30 PM] : Okay, so Luneria is supposed to have had information clamped down on it so that information isn't leaked and supplies aren't cut off that would be needed for the long sleep.
[7/12/2014 12:38:54 PM] : However would it be listed in a possibly publicly accessible database or one that might be accessed by spies?
[7/12/2014 12:39:19 PM] : hard to say...
[7/12/2014 12:40:10 PM] : I'd imagine that it'd be some cooperation between the MoP and maybe the MoM, so the degree to which the secret was kept could vary
[7/12/2014 12:40:32 PM] : http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Secret_Vault Or would it be possible for there to be a non-sequentially numbered Stable that's not listed in order to maintain its secrecy?
[7/12/2014 12:42:30 PM] : so... are you thinking of having our Stable be the one monitoring all the other stables?
[7/12/2014 12:42:49 PM] : ...all feeding back into the central computer...
[7/12/2014 12:42:54 PM] : O_o
[7/12/2014 12:43:09 PM] : XD
[7/12/2014 12:43:12 PM] : Could be that that might be why Cherry is not paying 100% attention to the Luneria stable.
[7/12/2014 12:43:45 PM] : But more over the point is that there is a secret vault in Fallout so we could have a secret one in Luneria
[7/12/2014 12:44:24 PM] : yeah.. but the Secret Vault wasn't opened to civilians, was it?
[7/12/2014 12:44:30 PM] : well, it's a possibility in any case
[7/12/2014 12:46:19 PM] : It's not discovered visibly when moving about the EFF because of Cherry Bloom's magic, its not listed in the list of stables Little Pip gets to keep it out of Zebra Hooves. Its maintained by an alicorn that's not from Equestria so the Zebra wouldn't know about Cherry Bloom.
[7/12/2014 12:47:35 PM] : It's not numbered sequentially so that if anyone finds a discrepancy in any reports or logs(The amount of supplies, power redirection etc) they wouldn't be able to look for the number since its out of sequence.
[7/12/2014 12:48:03 PM] : Moxypony nods, "a fair point"
[7/12/2014 12:48:06 PM] : There's also the thought that 101 was the last to be finished chronologically, so any vault numbered above that was finished prior to 101 being finished.
[7/12/2014 12:48:11 PM] : okay, I think I can agree with your reasoning
[7/12/2014 2:13:27 PM] : it's got SS (Secret Stable) written on the door, they always just thought it was Stable 55
[7/12/2014 2:13:31 PM] : :D
[7/12/2014 2:52:25 PM] : 55 In a hidden valley near the mountains which border the Griffin Kingdom Thrice the size of a normal stable, Stable 55 features tries to create a peaceful society by inhibiting its (primaly earth pony) inhabitants sense of desire. Fallen Angels
[7/12/2014 2:53:26 PM] : Why would they label it so obviously? Also it might be best to avoid SS that looks similar to 55
http://www.ekran.no/html/nazismexposed/local/images/symbols/ss_flag_s.png
[7/12/2014 2:56:28 PM] : the residents of Luneria are obviously going to be aware of the town, they're already a contained security risk, the labeling could be to ward off suspicion of the locals
[7/12/2014 2:57:28 PM] : I dunno, it was just a funny idea
[7/12/2014 2:57:41 PM] : I still like 510 Secret Luneria Outpost
[7/12/2014 2:58:20 PM] : Well it might have worked better if the Nazi's didn't have the stylized SS thing and then the fact that it was used in another side story.
[7/12/2014 2:58:41 PM] : Though whichever we yuse avoiding 4 and 9 since those are bad numbers in Japanese.
[7/12/2014 2:58:53 PM] : well my thinking was that they'd find out about another Stable 55 and realize theirs wasn't an ordinary Stable
[7/12/2014 2:59:48 PM] : Are they going to go to the griffin kingdom?
[7/12/2014 3:00:02 PM] : Moxypony waves a dismissive hoof, "unlikely"
[7/12/2014 3:00:23 PM] : more likely they'd find information about it in a Stable-Tec building
[7/12/2014 3:01:15 PM] : So it could still be any number since information about it is not in the Stable-tec HQ, to prevent it from being discovered through spying or whatever.
[7/12/2014 3:02:41 PM | Edited 3:02:51 PM] : but you're assuming roughly 400 secret Stables, given how the community spreads, I wouldn't be surprised if it came to that, but still
[7/12/2014 3:03:01 PM] : Why would I assume more than one secret stable?
[7/12/2014 3:03:17 PM] : by choosing the number 510
[7/12/2014 3:04:12 PM] : By having a sequence that leads up to 510 it is not a non-sequential numbering.
[7/12/2014 3:08:29 PM] : it obfuscates it by preventing it from being predicted by a usual pattern. part of the point if anyone looked for diversions of power or supplies being higher than expected, rather than looking for a next in sequence number e.g. 102 they wouldn't be able to deduce a pattern in the placement of stables as it's not sequential, it breaks pattern, it wouldn't show up in a predicted pattern.
[7/16/2014 1:44:18 AM] : Well, since you're so set on having a sequential number what if we ignore whatever side story uses 52 and use 52 since that can also be goji?
[7/16/2014 9:27:05 PM] :I had a suggestion about the Stable vault number.. but I have some... Reservations about the suggestion.
[7/16/2014 9:27:15 PM] : So, another number that reads as Ji is 2, so if we disregard "Just Like Clockwork" we could use 52 Or if we go off of another Suggestion we don't disregard Just like Clockwork and ours is actually SƧ rather than 52.
[7/16/2014 9:27:54 PM] : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C6%A7
[7/16/2014 9:28:42 PM] : That way we don't have to be in excess of 101.
[7/16/2014 9:30:41 PM] : Either or works well with me, I am unsure how big Just like Clockwork is with FOE
[7/16/2014 9:31:22 PM] : So long as we dont go over FOE, Pink Eyes and Project Horizons which seem to be the core fics
[7/16/2014 9:33:09 PM] : Also there are parts of Heroes that I like.
[7/16/2014 9:33:31 PM] : I'm not worried about running into other side stories, but I'm still curious as to what Catch thinks
[7/16/2014 9:47:13 PM] : So what do you think of the idea?
[7/16/2014 9:48:13 PM] : It's good with me, if you and everypony like it I'm down
=The Mane Story=
==Avoiding Plotholes==
[8/06/2014 1:01:09 PM] : Also, I wonder what Redeye would do with the tree...
[8/06/2014 1:01:14 PM] : if anything
[8/06/2014 1:04:08 PM] : Probably couldn't get to it.
==Non-Canon Humor==
[8/06/2014 1:07:14 PM] : okay, WAY out-there concept, (basically no chance in Tartarus we'll use it) but bear with me for the mental image if nothing else;
We already have it that a descendant of Berry shows up and is Enclave, what if we had her (or other Enclave ponies) steal the World Tree seed and take it back to the Enclave.
A while after the ponies return to Equestria, the Pegasi have planted the seed in the clouds, and a tree begins to spring up, but it's too large for the clouds to support and the Wastelanders are treated to the sight of a massive tree plummeting through the clouds to the earth.
[8/06/2014 1:12:02 PM] : That makes me want to have another strong pony that was rivals with Wolfberry show up and the two of them (and possibly others) try to slow the tree's fall. Sort of a Hulk/Thor sort of comeradery. thing that they're shown to have in the avengers assemble cartoon. But we'd need a special thing for Wolfberry to be able to fly and use his strength in his flying power. like ... Valkyrie power armor that has artificial wings that tap into a unicorn or earth ponies own type of magic to translate it into an equivalent pegasus magic wing power...
[8/06/2014 1:12:55 PM] : Moxypony coughs
[8/06/2014 1:13:00 PM] : uh, keep reading PH
[8/06/2014 1:13:02 PM] : XD
[8/06/2014 1:13:11 PM] : I think that eventually happens
[8/06/2014 1:13:28 PM] : or something similar
[8/06/2014 1:13:30 PM] : the power armor for providing flight to non winged ponies?
[8/06/2014 1:13:50 PM] : yeah, I think Blackjack gets something along those lines at one point. Also, flight talismans?
[8/06/2014 1:14:08 PM] : Oh right because she becomes a cyber alicorn.
[8/06/2014 1:14:29 PM] : All the better! it means that its more tech we can incorporate without the backlash.
[8/06/2014 1:15:39 PM] : haha, I might lean more towards using a Bloodwing Talisman or something, but either way, I don't think we'll include that scene
[8/06/2014 1:15:50 PM] : I just think the image is a really cool one
[8/06/2014 1:16:46 PM | Edited 1:17:00 PM] : Include it in the non-canon material collection, with a giant Wolfberry fighting a kaiju.
[8/06/2014 1:17:13 PM] : Cool ideas that are more for fun and aren't canon.
[8/06/2014 1:17:20 PM] : haha
==A Question of Motivation==
[8/06/2014 12:56:48 PM | Edited 12:57:51 PM] : The whole world tree at the same time as The Gardens of Equestria is actually a pretty big one. It almost comes off as us saying "No, we were the ones that saved the world..." when actually its a bit of both. Since we're like the Oasis Project. cleaning out the taint and radiation is all well and good. but bringing back more plant life is good too.
[8/06/2014 12:58:15 PM] : actually, my thinking lately has been that maybe the new World Tree couldn't grow because of the radiation, and mayhaps they couldn't grow it until after the radiation was cleared?
[8/06/2014 1:00:04 PM] : Could be that the tree of harmony is still alive, just completely inaccessible until the GOE goes off. After that its accessible and that could be where the world tree is. The tree of harmony still being alive could be one of the reasons why gaia is not completely dead as well?
[8/06/2014 1:00:45 PM] : hmm.. that could work. Meaning they find the seed there instead?
[8/06/2014 1:00:58 PM] : No, they bring the seed back to the tree.
[8/06/2014 1:04:08 PM] : Probably couldn't get to it. There should be some source of the mutations of the monsters. Like the starkiller(ursa minor), discord's black vines that turned into the thorn spitters. could explain the bloat sprites...
[8/06/2014 1:04:36 PM | Edited 1:04:52 PM] : the GoE clears that out the Legacies are able to move in and plant the world tree seed.
=Neighpon=
==Arrival==
[8/06/2014 2:02:44 PM] : I was just planning on them using a boat XD
[8/06/2014 2:03:36 PM] : A boat works.
[8/06/2014 2:04:11 PM] : we could have it get destroyed by a Berserker as soon as they arrive, sort of a 'WELCOME TO NEIGHPON, MOTHERBUCKER"
[8/06/2014 2:04:21 PM] : XD
[8/06/2014 2:05:34 PM] : Could be a pink and red one.. nope nope .. just pink, that red is not his natural red... its someponies' natural red, but it didn't originally belong to him...
[8/06/2014 2:07:20 PM] : "Are you sure that thing is a he?"
"Do you want to be the one to get close enough to check?"
[8/06/2014 2:09:41 PM] : Also what do you think of the hypothetical exchange about the beserker ghoul?
[8/06/2014 2:11:14 PM] : I'm trying to figure out who it's supposed to be.. is the Berserker somepony we know?
[8/06/2014 2:11:45 PM] : the one that shows up and wrecks the boat? Nope.
[8/06/2014 2:12:16 PM] : I'd see the first line being either Dullahan or Cascade and Channeler being the second
[8/06/2014 2:12:17 PM] : haha
[8/06/2014 2:14:18 PM] : Of all the things to be discussing, they're talking about the giant undead monster that's trying to kill them's gender.
It's an amusing bit of levity that I could also see you and catcher doing, tbh.
[8/06/2014 2:14:49 PM] : most definitely
[8/06/2014 2:14:58 PM] : :D
==Characters==
==Collectibles==
[8/6/2014 12:51:03 PM] : So I had this thought/realization thing... if you wanted to do the miniature collection thing, its possible to haveStrawberry Song (Who apparently has a copy of the black book in order for him to know necromancy so he can heal Kiwi Berry) have come up with the same idea that Rarity did with her miniatures. Since you know...http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/076/0/c/dennis_vs_dennis_by_thecarrottykid-d3buoe2.png It's possible for two people to come up with similar ideas at virtually the same time. Both of these "Dennis the menace" comics debuted within five days of each other, on in the US one in the UK.
[8/6/2014 12:51:57 PM] : This way the Legacies could collect miniatures without having to worry about finding Ministry Mares Statuettes.
[8/6/2014 12:52:28 PM] : Since Little Pip and Blackjack apparently both have them we really wouldn't have to worry about stepping on anypony else's sides stories' hooves.
[8/6/2014 12:53:15 PM] : Eternal Blue and Wolfberry had 7 kids... which with the way I'd set them up before (and with Lore adding one) gives us 7, one for each letter in Special
[8/6/2014 12:53:16 PM] : I was just going to avoid them altogether, since they're so limited in number, I figured it'd be safer
[8/6/2014 12:53:40 PM] : This way you don't need to worry about avoiding them and can include them.
[8/6/2014 12:53:40 PM] : and I worry that doing our own miniatures could result in some backlash..
[8/6/2014 12:54:57 PM] : I'm pretty sure we'll already get some backlash from somebody about any number of our core concepts. Cherry Bloom being an alicorn, doing the World Tree at the same time as the Gardens of Equestria, the inclusion of neighpon. The sheer number of "stable Dwellers" we're sending out all at once.
[8/6/2014 12:55:20 PM] : Honestly, neighponese versions of the miniatures is rather minor in comparison to some of the other things.
[8/6/2014 12:55:58 PM] : maybe, but how are we proposing they got the magic for it? Rarity?
[8/6/2014 12:57:16 PM] : Its hinted at in Project horizons that there may be more than one of the black books.
[8/6/2014 1:33:50 PM] : I still think we could do a miniature thing. with a different set of ponies you don't need to worry about them being rare as much. 42 in total, with seven each of the following
S - Peach
P - Plum
E - Almond
C - Cherry
I - Strawberry
A - Apple
L - Pear
With two complete sets being accounted for. one that Strawberry has, and one cherry has in Luneria, the set is ignored as its just seen as being some filly's set of dolls. Though I suppose that's only 28 left to find.
[8/6/2014 6:00:35 PM] : I did really like the idea of collectibles in Neighpon
[8/6/2014 6:01:54 PM] : The Prince and Princess Miniatures?
[8/6/2014 6:02:48 PM] : Yeah,
[8/6/2014 6:02:52 PM] : The addition of Almond and in particular the element you choose for her really fit in well with rounding out the SPECIAL.
[8/06/2014 6:03:17 PM | Edited 6:03:31 PM] : Since she's patience and balance, Endurence fits rather well for our little pink earth pony.
[8/6/2014 6:03:43 PM] : That is rather true! Pear works for luck too,
[8/6/2014 6:03:50 PM] : Eeyup!
[8/6/2014 6:07:47 PM] : And the others I'd lined up without realizing it. Since
Plum's talent is divination and being able to see the future, hence why his cutie mark also has an eye.
Peach and Cherry I'd had one as being emotionally weak but physically strong, and the other being emotionally strong but physically weak. as Super heros I had Peach with super strength, and of Course cherry is very friendly and personable.
Strawberry was the medic/healer type so usually have him as being intelligent so that he can have a lot of good medical knowledge.
Apple and Pear were of course energetic. Apple being a speedster, and Pear helping him either not get in trouble or able to get out of trouble.
And of course your addition of Almond fits in rather well!
[8/6/2014 6:11:35 PM] : I really do love the idea of having a set of the siblings together,
[8/6/2014 6:20:14 PM] : Actually, on the note of the collectibles, rather than it just being a miniature/statuette, why not have the little figure be inside a musical snowglobe? Each one could play their own song, but when together they play another song that would otherwise not be able to be heard?
That way you can be more like the New vegas Collectible but still have the bonus to SPECIAL, for the uniqueness of Cherry and her siblings.
[8/6/2014 6:21:07 PM] : Love the music box idea, that could likely be used later on too
[8/6/2014 11:20:27 PM] : re: Neighpon collectible statues; whose soul is it? Eternal Blue?
[8/6/2014 11:22:50 PM] : Possibly her and Strawberry Song's. Which is why she went feral when ghoulified, and he became a bit more reclusive and creepy(His fascination with studying ghouls). Though the former is more obvious the later would only become evident from Cherry's observations about him.
==Languages==
[8/06/2014 1:22:09 PM] : Also the Legacies all having pipbucks is needed because the luneria branch of stable tech includes universal translators, to explain why we don't need to worry about the language barriers of traveling to forreign lands.
[8/06/2014 1:22:49 PM] : either that or simply culture invasion by Equestria during the war
[8/06/2014 1:23:16 PM] : That'd explain giving the Valkyries two names.
[8/06/2014 1:23:40 PM] : and it'd make sense with Equestria's equivalence to the US in the war
[8/06/2014 1:23:51 PM] : Equestrian and Neighponese. pre-war only those going to other lands to it, as a sign of respect for the culture being visited.
[8/06/2014 1:24:16 PM] : post-war it became a LOT more ingrained into the new culture
[8/06/2014 1:24:30 PM | Edited 1:24:37 PM] : So the neo-neighponese are bilingual?
[8/06/2014 1:27:16 PM] : either bilingual or, if we wanted to really push Equestria's darker nature in the war, monolingual and only speaking Equestrian
[8/06/2014 1:27:56 PM] : I'd probably go with the former
[8/06/2014 1:28:13 PM] : Yeah.
[8/06/2014 1:32:24 PM] : that also leaves the floor open to Neighponese characters being able to communicate privately (unless somepony does get a translator spell)
[8/06/2014 1:33:17 PM] : Or knows Neighponese... like Cherry Bloom. XD
[8/06/2014 1:33:37 PM] : well, Cherry Bloom is technically Neighponese
[8/06/2014 1:33:39 PM] : haha
==Here There Be Monsters==
[7/16/2014 10:50:43 PM] : Since Neighpon has all new horrors to play with. we can toy with some of the Japanese yokai...
=Other Discussions=
==On the nature of Balefire==
[7/19/2014 12:39:32 AM] : If a unicorn with him learned to cast balefire as a spell, they'd be able to charge him up as well. Now there's an eeirie thought. a unicorn casting balefire.
[7/19/2014 12:40:12 AM] : necromancy.. maybe have somepony come across a smoothed obsidian slab...
[7/19/2014 12:40:51 AM] : haha, sorry, that's how Wrath speaks to his followers from the Ethereal
[7/19/2014 12:41:39 AM] : though casting balefire would probably be nearly impossible with just one pony...
[7/19/2014 12:42:31 AM] : it's dragonfire and necromancy, they'd have to be able to produce dragonfire and modify it with necromantic magic simultaneously, seems like it'd be enough to ruin even the strongest unicorns who might attempt it alone
[7/19/2014 12:44:39 AM] : So two minimum? One casts a dragonfire spell the other a necromancy spell that modifies it into balefire?
[7/19/2014 12:45:26 AM] : probably. and dragonfire would probably be a tough spell to even produce, much less find/develop
[7/19/2014 12:46:03 AM] : without access to prewar data and technology, I don't think they'd really have much chance of doing it
[7/19/2014 1:08:59 AM] : Might wind up being a worthwhile persuit in an odd way. Don't ghouls need the radiation to live? And once the world is restored, wouldn't that mean no more radiation? Would that mean that the good ghouls, like Ditzy and the one taking care of the ghoul foals and the ghoul foals for that matter would die off? Or would they be able to live just on necromantic energy that unicorns might be able to cast?
[7/19/2014 1:09:47 AM] : I don't think the ghouls need it to survive, just to heal, right?
[7/19/2014 1:10:53 AM] : Would they need the out and out balefire? Or would just the necromantic energy work?
[7/19/2014 1:11:19 AM] : depends where the radiation comes from, I suppose..
[7/19/2014 1:11:39 AM] : it's not nuclear radiation, so we don't really know exactly how it works
[7/19/2014 1:13:54 AM | Edited 1:14:50 AM] : I suppose the ghouls, being that they're actually dead unlike Fallout ghouls, must be animated by the necromantic energy, so I suppose the necromancy is the important part. The dragonfire would just destroy them, even a ghoul doesn't want to take a balefire egg to the chest
[7/19/2014 1:17:31 AM] : Yeah. Standard fare that the undead are animated by necromancy.
[7/19/2014 1:19:56 AM] : that's gonna be tough magic to get ahold of
==Stats, S.A.T.S and Bats==
[7/21/2014 6:40:34 PM] : Unicorns have three additional statistics which other ponies do not. Versatility, which is equal to (Intelligence/2) rounded up, Potency, equal to (Endurance/2) rounded up, and finally Strain, equal to (30 + [Endurance * 3] + [Intelligence * 3]) and gain (Int + End) Strain each level.
[7/21/2014 6:40:52 PM] : Int is for knowing many spells, end is for casting the spells bigger and strain is like mana
=Timelines=
==Aligning the Timelines==
[7/18/2014 1:33:51 PM] : Also wanted to look over the timeline you have laid out you wanted the world tree to go off at the same time as the "GECK"?</p>
[7/18/2014 1:34:20 PM] : that's what Catch was thinking
[7/18/2014 1:34:47 PM] : Yeah.. that's not going to happen if we have them leave after the cathedral thing.
[7/18/2014 1:35:02 PM] : ?
[7/18/2014 1:36:03 PM] : Think about the timing. It's actually not that long after the cathedral thing that FO:E wraps up. At least not compared to traveling to Neighpon, dealing with things there and getting back.
[7/18/2014 1:36:36 PM] : it's about two weeks, but they'd leave before the Cathedral
[7/18/2014 1:38:07 PM] : It happens during the Fillydelphia arc, doesn't it?
[7/18/2014 1:38:46 PM] : we don't really have much of a set time for when it begins, just that they don't come back to Luneria until after the Cathedral
[7/18/2014 1:42:53 PM] : Basically what you have is them going out and finding information about Cherry Bloom. "The Goddess that sleeps free under the moon" And coming back After the cathedral event. then the group using Cherry Bloom's Knowledge of the neighponese world tree to travel to Neighpon, right?
[7/18/2014 1:44:09 PM] : yeah, therein lies our problem
[7/18/2014 2:36:16 PM] : how long are we assuming it would take them to get to Neighpon?
[7/18/2014 2:39:00 PM] : According to that timeline the fillydelphia arc is 10 days. Do you really think you can get there, deal with what's going on there, find the Seed and get back within 10 days?
And we were having Cherry Bloom leave after the Catchedral event so Luneria would stay safe from Red Eye since Cherry is what's Keeping Red Eye away.
[7/18/2014 2:40:17 PM] : yes, but like I said, we don't have to stay within the timeline of the book, they could leave before Littlepip does
[7/18/2014 2:43:23 PM] : Before little pip leaves vault 101 or before Little pip leaves the cathedral?
[7/18/2014 2:43:31 PM] : er
[7/18/2014 2:43:34 PM] : Stable 2
[7/18/2014 2:43:39 PM] : yeah, stable 2
[7/18/2014 2:43:43 PM] : haha
==Timeline Differences==
[7/12/2014 12:31:26 PM] : So one issue I noticed is that Luneria and the School at Little Horn serve sort of the same purpose. and also that Luneria has a Luna Academy in it. So that is it a bit of a break in canon from FO:E.
[7/12/2014 12:33:06 PM | Edited 12:33:08 PM] : yeah, it'd probably be best if we simply avoided mentioning the school in Legacies, out of sight, out of mind, right?
[7/12/2014 12:33:31 PM] : or even have it reformatted into the MoP hub I was suggesting before
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