103474-casual-altoholics-unite

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Hey All,
 
If any of you are like me, like to play the RPG aspect of MMORPGS, and like to play all the possible classes, add your appreciation for being an Altoholic!
 
Also, if you do like to PvP and PvE end game but, are tired of all the drama, so you just enjoy pwning pixels and maybe having an adult beverage or 12 while playing this wonderful MMORPG, please feel free to add your appreciation!
 
Bottom line, I am enjoying Wildstar, faults and all and keeping it "casual" ( TBH, I hate that term and what it's become in the MMORPG gamingverse. :P ).
 
Cheers,
A Wildstar and MMORPG Fan ( or "Fanboy" for those of you that feel the urge to hate. ;)  )	
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Leveling Stalker to replace Medic Main due to Class Lead's penchant for strong alcohol and nurfs.
 
So yes to Alts.
 
Enjoying 6-49 pvp but 50 RBG is dead due to 2 issues. *Carries tanking rating and feeding off fresh 50's + client side hacks/exploits to remove cooldowns on abilities (hi 30 charged shots in 6 seconds *wave*)
 
So yes to PvP*
 
Enjoying Certain Quests (not tasks), but not Vet Adv/Dungeons since the loot 'buff'. Once my stalker gets to 50 i can enjoy the blue upgrades to be found there.
 
I like Wildstar, but it shits me to tears somedays that it gets in its own way of being fun with all the time-gating/prevention of enjoyment through useless and boring time sinks/repetitive crap/bugs.
 
I want it to be the game it could be, but i'll just play forum warrior until that day comes, or until the memory of such a possibility fades.
 
 
Cheers,
Jaded yet optimistic Wildstar and MMORPG fan.	
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			Me too. I like to learn all the classes and then decide which one I want to use for endgame, if I even have time for endgame with all the leveling I end up doing.	
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Hi Tank,
 
I completely understand your frustration about the game getting in it's own way. I have my "screaming at the monitor moments" but, I still like the game ( even though I want think the exile Devs put more work into the game than the Dominion Devs ). So, still having fun warts and all! :D
 
 
Hi Uchorhu,
 
I totally agree. I too play all the classes to see which one will become my main.
 
In this MMORPG I have settled on Spellslinger as my main ( which is semi-ironic because to me it's very much like a "mage" from WoW and I absolutely hated mages ).
 
 ;)	
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			I think almost everyone who's even moderately inclined to roll an alt would agree that WIldstar is pretty damn unfriendly to the concept.  Almost everything is character specific, with almost no crossover to account-wide.Unfortunately, even though I personally believe that the game could benefit a LOT from more account-wide and alt-friendly mechanics, there are far more pressing flaws with the game that need to be addressed before moving on to adding features.	
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I have quite a few alts and enjoy the journey to end since end is just that. I dont consider it to be a place a game "begins"
 
that and couldnt care less for pvp lol
 
but so far, having fun and enjoying on all my incarnations on Nexus	
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I think almost everyone who's even moderately inclined to roll an alt would agree that WIldstar is pretty damn unfriendly to the concept.  Almost everything is character specific, with almost no crossover to account-wide.
 
Unfortunately, even though I personally believe that the game could benefit a LOT from more account-wide and alt-friendly mechanics, there are far more pressing flaws with the game that need to be addressed before moving on to adding features.
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I think almost everyone who's even moderately inclined to roll an alt would agree that WIldstar is pretty damn unfriendly to the concept.  Almost everything is character specific, with almost no crossover to account-wide.
 
Unfortunately, even though I personally believe that the game could benefit a LOT from more account-wide and alt-friendly mechanics, there are far more pressing flaws with the game that need to be addressed before moving on to adding features.
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			Can i join? i am not altaholic but i am a casual.	
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Actually, I both agree and disagree with you. While I would have wanted an account-bank (and I'm considering starting my own private guild for the guild bank), I don't have a problem with things being character specific. Crafting resources can be sent to alts (as far as I know, though need to check into this. It's not a big deal, though.) Stuff I craft are sent to alts. If I win a plushie in a challenge, I send it to an alt, who's a plushie-horder. Things I find as loot, like weapons, AMPs, crafting recipes etc are sent to alts. The only annoying this is we have to use the mail to send things, but then again, we do that in every other MMORPG I've tried anyway. You can't fault Wildstar for doing something everyone else does too. ;)
 
More on topic, I'm a huge altoholic. So much that I've played nearly every day since launch (and beta, but those characters were wiped), and my highest level is 25, 26 or so. Not even sure. Then there's one at lvl 20, and four below 20. But they are also doing quite well on the Path-levels. I try to make the path-level the same as the character level, so my lvl 25-ish main is also a lvl 23-ish Settler, and the lvl 20 Stalker is a lvl 15+ Scientist. That's one thing I really enjoy. When I finally finish Algoroc or Celestion at lvl 14ish, I finish up the path-stuff in Thayd, then set off to the opposite zone. If I started in Celestion, I set off to Algoroc and finish up the path-stuff there, and vice versa.
 
Though my favorite playstyle is to hord a bit of loot for the other classes in my bank, then send a lot of stuff to one character and switch to her. It's so much fun to have two new weapons, one or two chest armors, three AMPs and a few crafting recipes waiting in the mail when I log in. It's like my own little birthday present to myself. Then I simply stick to that alt, so I can try out all the new stuff I got. Which naturally leads to hording a lot of stuff for other characters, so I eventually send one of them some stuff and switch to her, and so on. :D
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i actually think u are playing another game... u playing on day one and have only chars at level 25? u play at least 1 hour a week... most of the things are soulbound (dye, crafting recipe, eldan data fragment and recipe that u can take with only vouchers)... path levels are 30 and character levels are 50... and u cannot achieve level 24+ until u are in the wilderrun area that is 36+ (char level)... the reputation needed to do the "end game" is a pain in the ass to do for alts (and so the elder gems) and so on... just consider that you need a year of capped elder gems on main to have the full amp and ability points ( considering you only spent elder on that). The byable object are not tadable (at least make the account wide)... thare are so many flaws that prevent to have fun (playing at the fullest) with an alt... but still those are minor flwas actually is the main core of the game (boring time endless time sink) that ha a majo flaws.
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			I dabble with alts here and there. Though after hearing warrior tanks may not be touched until Drop 4, I'm considering taking the time to push up my healer.	
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Looks at signature looks back to thread, looks at signature again, looks back to thread again.
 
Nope not me... I do not have Altitus....
 
 
<3
 
Also a Wildstar Fan. It has it's issues but here's hoping they fix them!	
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seems to be playing the same game I am actually. Duchess is I mean. just because you can rush through everything to 50 in little or no time does not mean everyone does. I have character levels ranging all over and I have been playing since headstart. (was in beta as well)
 
I havent found anything yet that prevents me from having fun in the game. as with so much else, mileage varies and I personally, have yet to be bored
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Looks at signature looks back to thread, looks at signatilure again, looks baxk to thread again.
 
Nope not me... I do not have Altitus....
 
 
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Whoa count me in!! Duchess and Kestriel, you make me feel way less...well, not bad, but alien I guess. I'm THE SAME WAY! Been playing since Winter Beta (December) and even though I had tons of playtime in beta and early start my highest character is 25 :) Of course, this is because I have no issue rerolling a character - and have, many times - to find the right fit for a character class/path/race wise.
 
Do you guys have the problem of server hopping as well? Orias was my home...my main exile characters are on it. However I decided to check out Dominion and had no space left on Orias, so I've found a home away from home on Mikros. I've run out of slots on Mikros too because I'm exploring path stuff and zone stuff there and taking my sweet time enjoying the ride.
 
I realize I'm weird. But thanks to you two I feel less weird. This game is a lot of fun for me as an alt-o-holic. As long as I can mail stuff back and forth I don't mind anything else :D I grew up on Ragnarok Online pre-renewal so any kind of grind doesn't bother me at all (and sometimes energizes me, really)
 
The only downside I've found is that because of having so many different servers I'm hopping between I haven't found a community to get involved in - I'd like to interact more and find circles to hang out in. I'll get that figured out eventually.	
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i actually think u are playing another game... u playing on day one and have only chars at level 25? u play at least 1 hour a week... most of the things are soulbound (dye, crafting recipe, eldan data fragment and recipe that u can take with only vouchers)... path levels are 30 and character levels are 50... and u cannot achieve level 24+ until u are in the wilderrun area that is 36+ (char level)... the reputation needed to do the "end game" is a pain in the ass to do for alts (and so the elder gems) and so on... just consider that you need a year of capped elder gems on main to have the full amp and ability points ( considering you only spent elder on that). The byable object are not tadable (at least make the account wide)... thare are so many flaws that prevent to have fun (playing at the fullest) with an alt... but still those are minor flwas actually is the main core of the game (boring time endless time sink) that ha a majo flaws.
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That's ok actually... but dont state that the game is actually friendly to alts since is not. I am not judging the fun of anyone. 
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My name is Gomly and i'm an alco.....
 
 
 
Oh, wrong meeting.	
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path levels are 30 and character levels are 50... and u cannot achieve level 24+ until u are in the wilderrun area that is 36+ (char level)... 
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			I usually am and certainly have a few. But for whatever reason I just don't find myself wanting to level the others. Happened to me in GW2 as well. Still. Glad to see so many other altiholics representing :)	
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Casual gamer
/ˈkaZHo͞oəl/ /ˈgāmər/: game player who schedules their gaming around real life.Some "casual" players (possibly even many) are ex-hardcores who burned out after end game went from being a hobby to a science project to a 2nd job to an obsession. No more guilt trips from avoiding gear grinds on multiple raid characters. No more farming before going to work then again before going to bed to support the "A Team". No more high intensity wipe nights three or four nights a week with multiple six hour boss grinds on the weekends.
 
So from that perspective ...
Casuals mostly wanna log in with friends and blow shit up.
They still have enough end game skills to easily hold their own in a fair fight.
They excel in team environments but have zero tolerance for attitudes.
Their min/max edge has dulled because they choose to sharpen real life wits instead of fantasy weapons.
They bask in the heat of battle but have no desire to fight an entire war.
They play to win - just not at all costs.
When their steak is undercooked they don't start a food fight & burn down the restaurant, they simply send it back.
They enjoy the game for what it is, not detest the game for what it isn't ...
And they don't always drink ... but when they do, they drink for effect.
Stay thirsty my friends . . . :D
 
Altoholic
I'm not in a rush to see end game, and I can't really say whether or not I'm an altoholic because I still have a character I play most often. I play alts more for variety than anything, as well as twinking crafting mats and BoEs to build a self-sufficient "stable" of toons. Dating back to closed beta, my highest level character has been a Warrior because I find them most entertaining to play. Since I classify a main as the character one is most compelled to play most often, I guess that makes my Warrior my main, leaving all others to be alts.
 
If there's a weakness with how this game handles alts imho it's probably the lack of cross-faction mailing. Will be nice once that gets turned on.	
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I'm a Hardcore Casual and an Altoholic.
 
My Characters are 50, 30, 27, 23, 22, 18 on Dominion and 3 on Exile.
 
All details in my blog.	
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			I am having fun with all my alts.  I don't get the complaining about leveling more than 1 (or 2) characters.  But to each their own.  Repeating content is not for everyone.  But then again, you are playing an MMORPG... repeating content is a big part of an MMORPG.	
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In your opinion it's not, and that's going to always be the case with games, opinion is subjective!, for everyone who likes somethings, others will hate the same things. In my life experience I have yet to find anything that is UNIVERSALLY loved, even chocolate and some other *cough* esoteric pursuits.
 
You find the game unfriendly to alts, doesn't mean it is, there is quite a bit of evidence here to suggest others don't find this to be that case. Bottomline with anything that you don't have to do for responsibility, if you don't enjoy it stop.
 
By the way, I have also played a lot since Beta and headstart, I have a level 17 engineer, she is my highest character. At the present I have spend several weeks doing mezzanines, floors, and balustrades in my house!. Am I enjoying myself. You bet!!
 
Sarah
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Actually it "IS" unfriendly for alts... is a fact, not an opinion... 
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			I always feel guilty cheating on my main with my alts.	
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			I still have a problem deciding which character is my "main".  Out of all my characters, my Esper and my SpellSlinger are my favorites... and I can't just pick one :P	
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I think almost everyone who's even moderately inclined to roll an alt would agree that WIldstar is pretty damn unfriendly to the concept.  Almost everything is character specific, with almost no crossover to account-wide.
 
Unfortunately, even though I personally believe that the game could benefit a LOT from more account-wide and alt-friendly mechanics, there are far more pressing flaws with the game that need to be addressed before moving on to adding features.
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			I have 1 level 50 and 3 level 5s.  For whatever reason if I invest more then an hour into another character my main gets jealous I need to return.  I feel like I'm married to this pantsless tank.  Plus I feel like I have an alt by switching to my dps spec and gear.	
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I think almost everyone who's even moderately inclined to roll an alt would agree that WIldstar is pretty damn unfriendly to the concept.  Almost everything is character specific, with almost no crossover to account-wide.
 
Unfortunately, even though I personally believe that the game could benefit a LOT from more account-wide and alt-friendly mechanics, there are far more pressing flaws with the game that need to be addressed before moving on to adding features.
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That's incorrect, because you're placing an arbitrary line between "friendly" and "unfriendly", and not everyone would place the line in the same place.  It would only be a "fact" if every aspect of the game were unfriendly to alts.
 
Alts (of the same faction and server) are automatically made neighbors of each others plots.
 
Rest XP accrues on one alt no slower while you're playing another alt.  (So if you want to earn as much rest XP as possible, across your whole account, you must have alts.)
 
Both of those are ways in which this game is deliberately friendly to alts.  Therefore, the game is not as unfriendly to alts as it could be.  Therefore, placing the line between "friendly" and "unfriendly" such that the game 'is unfriendly to alts" requires subjective judgment and opinion, and is not "fact".
 
(You want facts?  "WildStar is less friendly to alts than WoW" and "WildStar is less friendly to alts than Champions Online" would be better.  WoW doesn't have housing at all, but its rest XP works just like WildStar's, plus there are heirlooms and other shared resources.  Champions Online has some level of shared housing/lair, an account-wide bank, and an account-wide shared mailbox.)
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I miss heirlooms  ^_^
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That's incorrect, because you're placing an arbitrary line between "friendly" and "unfriendly", and not everyone would place the line in the same place.  It would only be a "fact" if every aspect of the game were unfriendly to alts.
 
Alts (of the same faction and server) are automatically made neighbors of each others plots.
 
Rest XP accrues on one alt no slower while you're playing another alt.  (So if you want to earn as much rest XP as possible, across your whole account, you must have alts.)
 
Both of those are ways in which this game is deliberately friendly to alts.  Therefore, the game is not as unfriendly to alts as it could be.  Therefore, placing the line between "friendly" and "unfriendly" such that the game 'is unfriendly to alts" requires subjective judgment and opinion, and is not "fact".
 
(You want facts?  "WildStar is less friendly to alts than WoW" and "WildStar is less friendly to alts than Champions Online" would be better.  WoW doesn't have housing at all, but its rest XP works just like WildStar's, plus there are heirlooms and other shared resources.  Champions Online has some level of shared housing/lair, an account-wide bank, and an account-wide shared mailbox.)
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Your point as silly to not be more rude.
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My main is lv 26 and only cause I'm trying to get to lv 30 in the next 5 days to play sabotage!
My wife and I have created at least 10 alts and deleted about 5 lv10 ones until we found our favorite class/ race/ faction combos.
I enjoy adventures, and easy PVE dungeon-like experiences.  Grinding Dungeons and raids have always felt like work and its not for us.
On the other hand PVP is a different matter. We are that pair of players that everyone targets, coming in at top 3 on the dps/ heal charts is a failure in our eyes and we only except #1 from each other.
I play casually, I don't need to rush to 50 and complain about the lackluster endgame, I'm here to PVP, PVE on easy mode, and explore inner workings of the classes (there is no better way to find out their weaknesses).	
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Actually it "IS" unfriendly for alts... is a fact, not an opinion... Anyone that state the contrary is lying or does not know the game at all and, as i said, the fact you (and many others) are having fun leveling since the beta their toons to level 17 (or little more) have nothing to do with the game mecanics encouraging alts or not.
 
i use caps for this sentence since the fanboys/girls didnt get the point : I AM NOT DISCUSSING THE FUN EVRYONE HAVE WITH THEIR PLAYSTYLE.
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I always feel guilty cheating on my main with my alts.
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If any of you are like me, like to play the RPG aspect of MMORPGS, and like to play all the possible classes, add your appreciation for being an Altoholic!
 
Also, if you do like to PvP and PvE end game but, are tired of all the drama, so you just enjoy pwning pixels and maybe having an adult beverage or 12(...)
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I honestly clicked in this cause I thought the title read "Casual Alcoholics Unite!"
 
...damn	
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Altoholic checking in. Have a 50 SS, 39 Esper, 38 Engie, 37 Stalker, 25 Medic, 18 Warrior. 
 
I normally play at a semi hardcore level I guess (raiding, but not bleeding edge progression), but WS has me just playing alts waiting for my guild to be able to reliably clear silvers so I can attune my 50. And I think I'm allergic to rep grinding.
 
I might move on once I'm done leveling my alts if endgame hasn't changed by then.	
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Hey All,
 
If any of you are like me, like to play the RPG aspect of MMORPGS, and like to play all the possible classes, add your appreciation for being an Altoholic!
 
Also, if you do like to PvP and PvE end game but, are tired of all the drama, so you just enjoy pwning pixels and maybe having an adult beverage or 12 while playing this wonderful MMORPG, please feel free to add your appreciation!
 
Bottom line, I am enjoying Wildstar, faults and all and keeping it "casual" ( TBH, I hate that term and what it's become in the MMORPG gamingverse. :P ).
 
Cheers,
A Wildstar and MMORPG Fan ( or "Fanboy" for those of you that feel the urge to hate. ;)  )
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Defintion of Fact: 1
A thing that is known or proved to be true:
 
For this you need evidence:
 
Defintion of Evidence:
1: The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid
Also means that which is seen
 
So as you are so adamant that you know this and other people are lying, please show imperical, irrefutable evidence please. NOT your opinion!, everything you have posted so far has been your opinion and not fact at all. Also as you are making such a statement in a thread that CELEBRATES people playing alts in this game it's up to you to give compelling evidence to back up your claim of fact, not actually us the people who are actually, you know, playing alts.
 
Everything you have stated thus far for reasoning is why YOU think leveling another toon is a waste of time, this is not a conclusive fact. Your main argument seems to be your dislike of repetiton, that's your right but I have gone back and done every quest on all zones for ALL my seven toons. Have I gone that far in the game, no, but already I scorn your hate of repetition. Some people like my son for instance thrive on it.
 
So please back up your argument please, with some actual facts that support your claims and hypothesis. If you haven't got anything, then that's fine also. You think alts are unfriendly in this game, that is your right. However you don't have the right to tell anyone else we are wrong for not sharing your views.
 
Defintion: Irony
A state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result:
 
I give you the points that are unfriendly to alts (at least to me)
 
Sarah
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I honestly clicked in this cause I thought the title read "Casual Alcoholics Unite!"
 
...damn
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Classic mistake, friend. The internet in a nutshell:
 
 
 
 :D  :D  :D
 
 
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and evidence?....
 
Santa exists, so does the tooth fairy, in fact do you know what I can fly around on at night on a magic broomstick, shooting sparks out of it's back end!!
 
By your definition that's all fact, why?, because "I" just posted it is...
 
However answering is a waste of my time, you came and commented on a post about repetition mechanics on a game that is widely advertised as having a hard core element, the only other game (I know of) that openly states that it is indeed hardcore, infact it's moto is "harden the floop up" is EVE Online. Another game that "makes" you repeat everything, in real time for EVERY character you play. That could be more challenging to people wanting to roll alts, but saying for a fact it's unfriendly and challenging is incorrect. I would need to see evidence of people mass refusing to roll alts because the mechanics made it so difficult and soul destroying to do so.
 
However in EVE Online and here people have lots and lots of alts, why?, if it's that unfreindly, challenging, and soul destroying. Why isn't the mass of players here ONLY playing one toon, that at least would be some statistical evidence to back up your claims.
 
However on these forums daily I see people either annoyed with some aspect or the game, but just as many delighted with aspects, and others hoping for some minor improvements. Maybe Carbine intended alts to not share any properties as an added challenge. As alteady stated here already one person flatly opposes your view that everything should be account bound. Even that piece of data puts public opinion on at least this thread at 50/50.
 
However please feel free to continue to believe your opinion of a game is fact, it does me, nor the rest of the forum population any harm. It it makes the cockles of your heart warm, who am I to disabuse you.
 
And to point it out to you in answer to your last statement, I have no problem with your point of view that the game is unfreindly to alts, however unless you prove this, it's not fact.
 
Sarah	
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My roster is currently
 
50 medic
50 stalker
50 SS
26 warrior
20 esper
18 engy
 
I like to level alts for crafting, so that I can harvest a raw material in the outside world and turn it into a valuable item that people want to buy.  Unfortunately, the gathering aspect is nonexistent in this game with the bots and harvesting circles, and the crafting research time is way too long for me to provide a useful item.  It's disappointing.	
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It's amazing how polar opposite people's views can be sometimes. I think that account-wide stuff is actually unfriendly to alts. I don't get the feeling of earning that achievement, or getting that cool mount on the alt if that stuff is account wide. That's what pissed me off about WoW, and I deleted everything and started over on a new account, just to start getting stuff again.
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*Insert filthy casual comment here*
 
Down with the HARDCORE!
Let us rise up and burn thier houses!
And steal their trinket jewlery!
Since in their eyes we are gypsies!
So act like it!	
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Got a 50 stalker and a 36 SS healer I'm leveling through PVP and loving it. SS healing is trickier than the other two but the skill ceiling is much higher.
 
I have a warrior I want to level -eventually- and then sadly I am out of Draken characters to level, so I will have to think about what to do after that... 	
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Lets see. I have one character at 50 with 30 path, and then my other 6 characters are 17, 11, 7, 6, and 4. 
 
I spent my first 100 elder gems on a Ferris wheel for my house. Whoo! 
 
I do some dailies a few time a week. Working on crafting and gathering and My two houses so far. Hanging out with my guild and circle buddies, doing fun group stuff like expeditions or stomping out dailies, (which is more fun with 2+ people and faster, plus you get Furniture Points.) Also been working on my costumes and showing them off to my friends. 
 
Planning on doing some adventures soon. And I don't mean the "go go go! Lets get a medal!" I mean adventuring as in, "lets try this this time? What do you think?" If we run out of time, oh well, as long as we were laughing our bottoms off the whole time.
 
All in all, having a blast in a half. :D	
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I've always hated the name "casual."  Its implication is as if one pool of players is lesser than another.  While the "hardcore" raiders are spending their week on end game content and pvp'ers are smashing each other to bits, we casuals are nibbling on other pieces of the game such as housing, storylines, adventures, etc.  That is what I like about MMOs.  There is usually enough for all kinds.  And when there isn't, we move onto something that has more of what we need.
 
I was in Beta and I still am not sure what class/combo I will settle on.  I've done the starting areas so many times my eyes are beginning to bleed.  However, I am still here!  I've no problem entertaining myself in games until I find a community to settle into and there is always something interesting to look at, or read, while questing.  My days of 3-6 hour raids 3 nights a week are over.  When games became like work the stress level in me was just too high. 
 
I rather surf a more chillax wave and see where is takes me these days.  Hopefully beyound level 15 before Christmas. :blink:	
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Hey All,
 
If any of you are like me, like to play the RPG aspect of MMORPGS, and like to play all the possible classes, add your appreciation for being an Altoholic!
 
Also, if you do like to PvP and PvE end game but, are tired of all the drama, so you just enjoy pwning pixels and maybe having an adult beverage or 12 while playing this wonderful MMORPG, please feel free to add your appreciation!
 
Bottom line, I am enjoying Wildstar, faults and all and keeping it "casual" ( TBH, I hate that term and what it's become in the MMORPG gamingverse. :P ).
 
Cheers,
A Wildstar and MMORPG Fan ( or "Fanboy" for those of you that feel the urge to hate. ;)  )
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I honestly clicked in this cause I thought the title read "Casual Alcoholics Unite!"
 
...damn
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			Happy to see so many altoholics and those that wish to state their views about this topic. ;)	
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