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Come on in and have a cup. It's cold outside and we need to have a talk.
 
I'm bored out of my mind.
 
There. I said it. I'm not proud of it. It gives me no pleasure to admit it, but there it is.
 
I have five level 50 toons. I have leveled to 50 on both Factions. I have build houses. I have crafted. I have done every daily and excursion in-game so many times I can do them while smoking a stogie with one hand and drinking a mojito with the other. Further group content, while a fine thing for many, just isn't for me - and let's be honest, even if I had been doing group content every day since launch, guess what? I'd still have done THOSE a hundred-billion times and I'd still be right where I am.
 
*sigh*
 
In true F2P form, Crabine has continued to add things to the Cash Shop on a weekly basis, and (again, plain talk here) the two non-seasonal events (zRaces and Space Chase) were little more than tools to push players toward the cash shop stuff. Now, the races were amazing good fun, but the Space Chase, while fine in principal, just pushed me to do more of the exact same things I'm already doing. It was more effective for me to buy/bum those bits/decor than it was fun to run the shiphands for them.Only now that the Space Chase is over, I have no real motivation to do Expeditions anymore. I have 50,000 Renown on like three toons and nothing to buy that's worthwhile to me. I can't progress my gear any further except through Contracts and World Bosses. Contracts have just started losing flavor, since they're just the same dozen or so missions on a loop ... and seriously, how many times can we down a Boss in two minutes or less before it's just not entertaining. It's a longer, bigger hassle to collect the PAPs than it is to fight the bad buy. Meh.
 
I have heard rumblings of "announcements" coming on the 13th, but I've seen no confirmation from official sources that this is the case. I'm a patient guy for the most part, and if what they say on the 13th is inspirational, then I'll hold out hope. Between now and then, I'll probably just be sitting on the couch, watching The Worst Cooks in America and playing Battlefront.
 
As a basically solo player, I have reached the end of entertainment in WildStar, at least for now. I'll still pop in here, since this is still my favorite community, but don't expect to see me more than intermittently in-game until we get some more leveling zones, some more personal story, some more expeditions, a new roster of Contracts, a new daily zone ... something ... ANYTHING ... other than what I've already seen a hundred times.
 
This Chua looks how I feel this morning.
 
 
 	
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You've hit the nail on the head with this post Tex.
I'm feeling exactly the same.
The only reason why/if I am online is because I'm taking care of my guild and I like to chat with the people who are online.
But that's all I'm doing in Wildstar.
There's really nothing else to do....	
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My biggest worry is that the "announcement" will be a new raid or something like that.
 
At which point, I'll simply stop caring until I get the email the servers are closing down.
 
Seriously, I know there are people who love raids and have been waiting for a new raid tier. I get it. I really do. But to be frank, I don't care one little bit about raiding and if the only new content we going to see is raid-level content, then I am out of here.	
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My biggest worry is that the "announcement" will be a new raid or something like that.
 
At which point, I'll simply stop caring until I get the email the servers are closing down.
 
Seriously, I know there are people who love raids and have been waiting for a new raid tier. I get it. I really do. But to be frank, I don't care one little bit about raiding and if the only new content we going to see is raid-level content, then I am out of here.
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I felt the exact opposite about the Space Chase event. xD I didn't have any problem farming particles out the wazoo... my guildies can attest to my rampant vet shiphand running that weekend haha. Farmed enough to get 10+ of a dozen different decor pieces I want for future housing plans as building blocks, plus one of everything to get the achievements on Antimony. That was a LOT of shiphands, but... *shrug*
 
Anyway, still having fun myself! Loving raid nights of course (WOO WE KILLED CONVERGENCE!! :D :D and I jumped down the hole to Ohmna for lols), but also loving RP, and running vet dungeons with my friends, and working on (or really, planning) a couple new housing projects. My plat reserves are just about depleted, so I've had to dive back into dailies, though... I'm really bad at doing them every day. I think World of Dailycraft: Mists of Pandaria just about killed me on those, so I manage them every other day or so instead. xD
 
I guess it helps that I don't really have anything against playing other MMOs at the same time, so I split my free time between Guild Wars 2 and WildStar, and playing in TW BnS's character creation while waiting for that game to launch. xD (And I can always pop back in Rift when I feel the urge... there is a neverending fount of things to just do there.) And of course, ROLEPLAY! :D It's hard to get utterly bored of one game when you are always mixing things up. That's kind of my approach to "grinding" in-game, too...
			
				
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If I had ONE WISH for WildStar, it would be a Player Made Content like City of Heroes and Neverwinter Nights (I think, one of those D&D games) used to offer.
 
Sure, some of it was pure exploitative crap, but there were some real gems, too. Heck, let them set up an approval-system to keep out the terrible stuff. Institute a vote-feature so the players themselves could up- or down-vote things. Hell, I'd love to join an officially-sponsored Critic's Council where a few of us could explore that content and then pass along only the very best to Carbine for hosting.
 
I have been a Dungeon Master since 1980. I have played RPG video games since they were invented. I have played MMORPGs for over a decade. I am a graphic artist. I am a Lore hound. Let me and other like-minded, community-involved players HELP YOU GUYS OUT.
 
You trust us to make add-ons, and many of those add-ons are LIGHT YEARS better than the standard UI. Why not let us build content for you, using existing assets?	
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I know the feeling you're describing, Tex, not in WildStar (yet) but I've been there many times in other games.
The sad realization I've come to is that it's a battle no devs can ever win, a lot of people, myself included, don't care for all the content that's being developed so the already sparse content updates get even thinner. Even when there's a massive expansion pack it usually only lasts me two to three months before I'm back where you are now. Been there, done that, done it some more and now what?
 
WildStar still has a lot of content new to me (like half of the stuff that's going on on the Domino side of things) but eventually I'll have done everything I wanted to do and a couple of things I didn't want to do but did anyway just for the heck of it.
 
I'm afraid whatever the new announcement is it won't be enough to fulfill everyones wishes and we'll get another wave of complaints about unmet expectations.
 
It's something I've been noticing with all MMOs I've played so far though and not something WildStar does wrong. The genre itself turned me into someone hopping games every few months to give the games I'm playing some time to build a new buffer of content I can enjoy. And for the most part it works, I have an array of games I love and enjoy and by the time I've circled through all of them there's plenty of new content waiting in the next game in line, it may not be ideal from a developer standpoint but I'm enjoying myself.	
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I have also been known to game-hop when the mood strikes.
 
Problem is, I've played them all now, and none of them are as much fun to play as WildStar. I am hopelessly spoiled to action combat now, so tab-targeting games and fake-action combat games just make me groan. If the game doesn't have double jump and dodge mechanics, I want nothing to do with it. WoW and SW:TOR (both of which I've played again in the last year) are just awful. GW2 is slow and hobbled. Tera is crap. Aion is PURE crap. DC Universe is still awesome, but I just can't bring myself to go back there now that all my friends have moved on. Archeage, boring. Blade & Soul looks okay, but man, I just can't see paying to beta a game - and the entire jiggle-fest is a pretty big turn off.
 
I just want to make content for WildStar. Really, that's the only thing outside of an entirely new massive expansion that would keep me interested at this point.
			
				
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My biggest worry is that the "announcement" will be a new raid or something like that.
 
At which point, I'll simply stop caring until I get the email the servers are closing down.
 
Seriously, I know there are people who love raids and have been waiting for a new raid tier. I get it. I really do. But to be frank, I don't care one little bit about raiding and if the only new content we going to see is raid-level content, then I am out of here.
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As for Tex/Solo content, I don't know what they should do. But honestly, I don't know what you've been keeping yourself busy with this long!
 
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Tex, you should at least find a good GA clear and get a carry through GA. You'd probably find it fun :D
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I have no doubt in my mind that if I wanted to be a burden, then I could find someone to burden. But that's not me, brother. That's about as far from "me" as it gets - though I am sure it would be a good time to just worry about staying out of the red and letting everyone else deal with the hard bits.  :lol:
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I am pretty lucky at this moment because ive not been around for a long time I still have alts to level up and other parts of the game to get into. Wither this changes once I hit level 50 with all my toons I couldn't really say but I have tried alot of mmo's and end game is normally where things start to get stale for me. 
 
I used to play SWG and I spent alot of time in game and working with the guild I was in to get the last city spot in Tatooine on our server and spent lots of time after that working up the guild and doing lots of guild activities. When NGE hit I pretty much ended up leaving the game and it kind of put me off putting in alot of effort into games and now I really just play them casually to have fun. I always tell myself when a game starts feeling like its hard work then that is the time to move on and I pretty much have bounced between alot of mmo's trying to find one that can keep my attention for a good bit. 
 
GW2 is probably the next longest game I played and that was basically due to WvW where every night prime time was different as you never knew what to expect but that also started getting boring when you are destroying servers in prime time and find out that none of it matters when the night crew comes in and flips all your keeps and towers and you wake up the next morning to the entire map being flipped for one server who PvDoor'd all night.  I done dungeons and fractals but trying to get into a group with me being a Necro and the only class I enjoyed was not fun because of the general consensus that Necro's where rubbish in dungeon groups.  In the end I left after a few bad design decisions and a class that at the time was not wanted in alot of the end game PVE content.  
 
But I think ive played nearly all mmo's that are out and like Tex I enjoy action style combat and when I play the old tab targeting it just feels archaic to me. I tried to get into Archeage but the combat was awful and add onto that on my server at least it had one of the worst communities ive ever seen and with Trion's incompetence I didn't really last too long in that game.  Which evidently brings me onto Wildstar it was a game that I had beta tested way back at the start but as I was playing GW2 and with the game nearing release it felt unpolished and I couldn't envision me paying a subscription when it felt worse than the current game I was playing at the time. But when f2p was coming around it was either going to be this or skyforge that I was going to give a try and after hearing alot of bad things about skyforge I came here got into beta again and gave it another try and found it alot more polished and alot of fun and hence I stuck around.
 
I got a beta invite for BnS and tried that out and after a little bit I gave up as it felt like Aion with action combat and having played Aion and even Tera to end game the game art style is not really for me. So I shall be around in Wildstar for a good bit because im having fun and look forward to seeing what the announcement on the 13th is about and hope whatever it is has enough content to please alot of the people who are starting to get bored with the game. 	
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Good morning!
 
I too saw the unofficial announcement of an proposed announcement to be forth coming, not sure what to make of it so I won't get my hopes up.
 
Winterfest is over, and so I have had my usual lull in play-time (events burn me out!). Over all it was very enjoyable, I had my disappointments, as I am sure many did, but it was great to mix up the game some with a cold, cash-fueled, snow white extravaganza. Nothing is perfect, right?  :rolleyes: I would definitely do it again though. Maybe next year we can grab some snowball throwing carnival style daily. 
 
Ah but onto the real topic of the thread. I sympathise with you greatly Tex. My partner, and partner in MMO-crime, has been feeling less and less like playing Wildstar; instead returning to the tried and true Champions Online (... talk about a content drought! :lol:) so I've been lacking my usual play-buddy. Sad too, because is loads of fun... I just think it was a bit difficult for my better half. He didn't really enjoy Winterfest either, so I couldn't wrangle him into the game for that.
 
At this point, I guess we have to just see what the future holds? A horrible non-committal statement to be sure, but they have to announce something sooner or later. And at the very least, we can expect two more holiday events before summer~ ;)	
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As a basically solo player, I have reached the end of entertainment in WildStar, at least for now. I'll still pop in here, since this is still my favorite community, but don't expect to see me more than intermittently in-game until we get some more leveling zones, some more personal story, some more expeditions, a new roster of Contracts, a new daily zone ... something ... ANYTHING ... other than what I've already seen a hundred times.
 
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			Well, Housing being absolutely amazing while being fairly simple also helps. But then I don't earn my living by being a visual designer, so I don't feel like I'm working when doing that. :p	
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I obviously need a stable group of role-playing friends.
 
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I'm pretty much in the same boat really, I log on once in awhile to poke a couple of people. Last night was the last RP session my group will be having as some are bowing out of the game in some way; We all had a great time and even got dice rolling involved. I'll do a BG(hopefully bot free) if they manage to pop up during my play session.
 
For me adventures are what I love most to do, but it feels like puling teeth to get them going at times now sadly. PvP is still fun off to do and raiding was fun while I was capable, but I personally can't go much further due to my own time constraints. I'll keep an eye out for updates and this announcement thing people have mentioned, but I think I'm pretty much on my last leg personally. Since it's f2p I'll still keep it installed and hop on once in awhile, bt for now I've been mostly playing FF with some friends and though I've been playing BnS for a long time I'll be changing over to the NA soon as I've a bunch of folks joining in there too. We'll see what happens though I guess.	
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I have also been known to game-hop when the mood strikes.
 
Problem is, I've played them all now, and none of them are as much fun to play as WildStar.
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I am at once glad to know I am not alone in feeling this way, and saddened to see it's affecting so many other regulars.
 
I dread the day when Morning Coffee is gone for good, because none of us are around to make it. :(	
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I feel much the same way, although I hit the wall some time ago, around Shade's Eve. I enjoyed elements of that event a lot, but the performance problems and lag that came with it (for me, I accept not everyone was affected) pushed me away. I took a look at Winterfest but ran into the same problems, so stopped logging in over the holidays. I found myself returning to another MMO and got immersed in that again. I tend to only play one MMO at a time, because I prefer to subscribe, and so currently WS doesn't hold my attention.
 
Unfortunately, playing another MMO has reminded me just how poorly Wildstar performs compared to other MMOs. I love Wildstar's action combat, humour, visuals, housing and the overall creativity. But the poor performance / lag, bugs, cluttered UI and general lack of content suited to my gameplay preferences really hurts. I can't justify struggling against these problems to try to enjoy WS when I can simply log into a different MMO and enjoy it without the hassle. All MMOs have their issues of course, but sadly WS has more than most (for me). I deeply want to love the game but the flaws are too hard to ignore and I feel like I've hit the end of the road with hoping things will ever improve.
 
In other MMOs I participate quite a lot in group and guild content (including raiding). In Wildstar I'm almost exlusively solo, which says more about WS than it does about me I think. As a non-raider I also feel that there's little worth logging in for. And if I do (I still have several months Signature) invariably I get hit by lag anyway or I'm greeted by UI errors, which is never good for motivation. I've barely done any Contracts, Expeditions, Challenges or Dailies since F2P arrived. I used to do this sort of content all the time. But the F2P changes sucked much of the fun and purpose out of that content.
 
I'm not sure what can be done to fix things given the limitations of resources Wildstar now has. New content of any kind is probably needed, but they've never finished fixing / polishing the existing content, so not much point adding anything new if it's going to be more of the same.
 
I totally agree that player generated content would be hugely beneficial. I've seen it work well in other MMOs and given how excellent Wildstar's housing is, many of the building blocks are already present. But of course, any player generated content needs proper administration / moderation and even if the devs could code a suitable framework I doubt there's the resources available to administer it day-to-day.
 
Sorry to be negative, but some time spent away from the game tends to bestow perspective. I hope things take a turn for the better soon.	
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http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/news/2016-01-05-boss-hunter-challenge/
 
So this just happened.
 
I guess it's SOMETHING. I like killing World Bosses. I don't like the PAP grinding chore.
 
Well, at least it's something to do. And a new dye. So yay for that.
 
 
EDIT TO ADD: I notice the supreme LACK of pushing the cash shop in this event. If the page is accurate, EVERYTHING is earned in-game. If that's true, that's wonderful for the Freebots and those adverse to the cash store!
			
				
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My Engi is only level 30, but I have yet to use a bot and I do just fine. :lol:
 
And damn, I didn't see it was still two days away. Ah well. I guess I can watch some Bobby Flay/Anne Burrell action and get my Battlefront on for a couple more days. :P	
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			Starts on the 7th which is good as im trying to finish off leveling my engineer as he is lvl 45 now.  But I doubt I will use him much unless they alter the way the bots aggro works as its like running around with a pair of elephants, they keep aggroing stuff miles away from them and it can be a pain in the neck. 	
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In this case, they are giving you a lockbox key for the content, not buying it from the store.
 
The only unsavory element here is the dealer giving you a hit to get hooked, but that's not unexpected for F2P :D	
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EDIT TO ADD: I notice the supreme LACK of pushing the cash shop in this event. If the page is accurate, EVERYTHING is earned in-game. If that's true, that's wonderful for the Freebots and those adverse to the cash store!
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Not so fast, Tex:
 
..along with a lockbox key
 
The only place I know of where you can get a lockbox key is from the cash shop and while it is true that lockbox keys are purchasable with Omnibits, which are earned in-game, the cash shop is still involved.  So there's a bit of a skeevy element to this event in that players who do not have enough Omnibits saved up are looking at purchasing them for cash.
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			Well then, that's quite a bit different and an unexpected surprise that I cautiously welcome.  As you say, Mr. Jeff, it's somewhat analogous to the "first hit is free" metaphor, but I'll take my free keys and see what I get from the lockboxes.  In my opinion, this is a two-edged sword.  If the lockboxes provide reasonable rewards, reasonably often, then Carbine/NCSoft could see an increase in key sales from the store.  However, if the lockboxes are akin to boomboxes, rarely rewarding, then players will rarely, if ever, purchase them.  
			
				
	Edited January 5, 2016 by NathansDeluxe	
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roleplay has been pretty good
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I am at once glad to know I am not alone in feeling this way, and saddened to see it's affecting so many other regulars.
 
I dread the day when Morning Coffee is gone for good, because none of us are around to make it. :(
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My Engi is only level 30, but I have yet to use a bot and I do just fine. :lol:
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I dont know how you can run without at least one and not feel as if your DPS deals as much damage as a Tank build especially as the tier 4 on arty is a good bonus. I run with arty bot and diminisher or bruiser depending on if I need more dps or an extra interrupt.
 
But they are a hindrance when your running anywhere or even going down a slope as they run around and drag everything with them. If I could find a decent build without needing them I would use it.
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Looking at this thread, I'm starting to feel the opposite: dreading the day when I'm the only person talking in Morning Coffee thread. -_-;
 
But nothing's gotten rid of me yet!
 
[edit] oops, didn't mean to doublepost
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Well, let's see the recap for Winterfest on my side...
 
I decided the pay on the Dominion side wasn't worth wearing this awful Winterfest outfit, so I went in the Exiles' capital to try and get a risk premium.
 
I worked hard, avoiding guards and PvPers trying to kill me, made sure everyone got the right present, was praised for the job:
and... got nothing. Worse, I worked much more than I should and Protostar never aknowledged it! Really, never work for Protostar unless you read everything with an Ikthian microscope and make sure it's worth it.
 
At least, I got to hang out with Myala and tick off Arwick and his blind guards again.
 
I even got to do some fireworks... I nearly burned the angry aurin's ears in the process. Those were some good times!
			
				
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This boss killing thing looks neat, and also it is nice to see you can 'rarely' acquire these shiny coins just by killing random stuff! Cool!
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I just don't like the class itself, which is probably why it and Medic are the only two classes I haven't maxed out. Yeah, I did Stalker TWICE beofre making 20 on either Medic or Engineer. 
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			I'm a melee guy at heart, so Stalker and Warrior have been my favorites so far. I leveled ESPer back at first launch, almost totally through healing in PVP battlegrounds. Those were the good old days, when low-level PVP happened and no one on the other team was a bot. Honestly, I have no idea how to play ESPer or Spellslinger effectively. I leveled Slinger during the Double XP Weekend and it was over so fast, I barely remember it. Same with ESPer. Mostly I just ran around tossing heals on people for a month and then I was 50.  :lol:	
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I'm a melee guy at heart, so Stalker and Warrior have been my favorites so far. I leveled ESPer back at first launch, almost totally through healing in PVP battlegrounds. Those were the good old days, when low-level PVP happened and no one on the other team was a bot. Honestly, I have no idea how to play ESPer or Spellslinger effectively. I leveled Slinger during the Double XP Weekend and it was over so fast, I barely remember it. Same with ESPer. Mostly I just ran around tossing heals on people for a month and then I was 50.  :lol:
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At this point all I do is 1) Housing, 2) RP, 3) Raid. And mostly its 1A) Housing for RP.
 
I am really looking forward to the new raid for what its worth, but I know our guild will want to finish Datascape first before we move on.
 
Housing is about as much player-generated content as we're going to get right now, and its great for rp purposes since we can make the sets we need instead of having to find places in the word that suit our needs.
 
But for true player generated dungeons and stuff.... yeah you're going to need a different game. I have begun talking about this a great deal to my friends because I too would like to see a game that allowed or revolved around large amounts of player generated content, but we'll see if that ever goes anywhere. The trouble is I think that most everyone is still following the "themepark" or "grind till you drop" models in online play. I don't know if its just that they don't trust players (which, considering that I'm sure the first 100 things will be like.... dick castles, is completely warranted), or that they're worried that people won't make things in-theme enough. Either way, there seems to be an open niche in the market at the moment for this, which it would be nice to see someone fill.
 
But we'll see, I'm not holding my breath. Which is another reason why we might just eventually have to make it ourselves (aka: maybe in 15 years).	
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			Carbine said they wanted neighborhoods to offer player-generated content. They haven't said in what way, however. Big reveal on the 16th!? One can hope.	
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Carbine said they wanted neighborhoods to offer player-generated content. They haven't said in what way, however. Big reveal on the 16th!? One can hope.
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			I have to admit that it disheartens me to see Tex down about WildStar. I was just thinking today that WildStar could due with an expansion. I don't have a level 50 yet, so I have lots of content ahead of me, however, I do wonder how the folks who have been here since launch are getting by. Seems they are hoping the devs will throw them a content bone. I hope the devs do. I really like WildStar and would like to see it thrive.	
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Hey guys, I was just hopping onto the forums to see what was happening in the wildstar area.
 
I'll be honest, I haven't logged in since before christmas now, at least not longer than 30 seconds. I just... can't. I've had people suggest to move to the pve server or level a new toon, but I just... can't.
 
I invested so much time and love and money into this game and the devs let me down so much I just.. can't do it anymore :(
As much as I love you guys, the community, as much as I love the art, the lore, the music (jeff you are amazing!), I just can't find the motivation to play anymore.
I can't even do housing anymore without getting frustrated. The whole bot fiasco killed every little bit of hope I had for pvp as well. I dunnooo... I just wanted to drop in and say hiii. I may come back and play occasionally... I just don't want to sink my money into paying for all my toons to move to Jabbit if they end up merging. So I guess I will just wait, it's not like I'm having to pay a sub anymore.
 
If anyone would like me to move a single toon over to Jabbit let me know, I'd be down for pve shenanigans I guess... Let me know the class you want, as I have them all.. I prefer to be a support and I have next to no PvE gear :c lol.	
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NA side just got hit with the bots this morning. So, now we know how you feel! We're seeing a ton of premades pop up though so people don't wind up getting stuck being on the bot team, lol. Suggested for people to just grab all the live players on their team and start slowly making a premade.
 
Will see if this is a trend that continues but it does mean PvP pops around the clock... Even if the matches might boil down to bot farm.	
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Unless I misread the article, you're getting the lockbox keys as an in-game drop from the bosses/champs you kill in addition to the token(s)
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			So much for 'no cash shop push' during this event.	
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			*sigh*...oh well...	
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			On the bright side, so far I haven't seen any reward from this boss event that would require multiple purchases (like decor). The stuff on the list seems like the kind of thing you'd only need one or two of.	
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Yeah, I did Stalker TWICE beofre making 20 on either Medic or Engineer. 
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I feel with you.
Yesterday I had hopes, 5h maintenance seemed promising. Joined in after maintenance and joined a bg. Halls was the first one to pop (!!!), haven't played it in ages it seems. And no bots! I was so happy and remembered why I love pvp in this game.
But I was realistic, so I thought I would wait and join in today again. And today, first bg to pop watiki.... full of bots :(
Sure, I could just stick to housing... but atm my schedule is better just to jump in to some bgs every now and then when I take breaks. But I can't do that so I simply just login for daily login reward.
It's a shame.
I don't play any other game so I just do other things while hoping for bots to be fixed... there is plenty of other things to do irl :P But I really hope they are taking the issue seriously, right now I get the impression that it's for some reason not being their priority (perhaps maintenance was mainly for the shop?). 	
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First of all: typing this on my phone. 
So, I really encourage everyone who hasn't done raid content yet to give it a try. It is by far for me the best and most enjoyable part of the game. I'm sure lots of you know this. 
I would also like to make yal aware of Black Desert Online a new MMO coming out soon with a lot of sandbox elements. It is personally not for me because it has no dungeons or raids just pvp and more single player friendly content.
Personally, I am really enjoying my time with the game. Between raiding and working on my tank and dps sets I don't think I have ever had more fun in an MMO. Even though I have full cleared GA and DS I still log on each day to try to improve.	
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			Has there been no new coffee thread for 3 days? D:	
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			Tex is slacking....	
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			Sorry, I teach, so I have a narrow window in the morning where I am able to browse the internet... and sometimes I just don't feel like starting the thread, even when I see it's missing! Dx	
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