123146-nice-credd-system-blizzard

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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/18141101/introducing-the-wow-token-3-2-2015
 
"Players will be able to purchase a WoW Token through the in-game Shop for real money, and then sell it on the Auction House for gold at the current market price. When a player buys a WoW Token from the Auction House for gold, the Token becomes Soulbound, and the player can then redeem it for 30 days of game time."
 
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I guess.
 
EDIT:  The biggest problem I have with this system is (copied from another of my posts): this system is GREAT for a newly-minted MMO.  For a 9-year old game with lots of money-saturated players, that's a different story.  I wouldn't dare implement something like this in a game with that much time and that much in-game currency floating about.	
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To be fair, Wildstar stole the idea from EVE Online first.   :lol:
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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/18141101/introducing-the-wow-token-3-2-2015
 
"Players will be able to purchase a WoW Token through the in-game Shop for real money, and then sell it on the Auction House for gold at the current market price. When a player buys a WoW Token from the Auction House for gold, the Token becomes Soulbound, and the player can then redeem it for 30 days of game time."
 
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I guess.
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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/18141101/introducing-the-wow-token-3-2-2015
 
"Players will be able to purchase a WoW Token through the in-game Shop for real money, and then sell it on the Auction House for gold at the current market price. When a player buys a WoW Token from the Auction House for gold, the Token becomes Soulbound, and the player can then redeem it for 30 days of game time."
 
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I guess.
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Yeah, that's definitely Blizzard. They're not afraid to implement good ideas from other games if they believe it will improve their own.
 
Nothing really wrong with that, in my opinion. Just innovation at work.
 
Personally, I believe that making game time a tradable commodity is a fantastic idea and a much better alternative to freemiu- er I mean "free to play."	
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Yeah,
 
You're aware that Wildstar basically copied PLEX verbatim, correct? Also, Khrono from Everquest II, REX from Rift, Gems from Neverwinter, etc...
 
Seems like you have a chip on your shoulder about WoW, who is possibly the only MMO out there who hasn't implemented this system in some fashion yet.	
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			Oh look, blizzard is "taking inspiration" from other MMO's again, I remember when they did the same with rift features.... and countless other MMO's, it's no big surprise haha xD	
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To be fair, Wildstar wasn't the first game to implement the concept. :)
 
What's really nice about these sorts of systems however is that when they're implemented in a way that's easy for players to deal with, they completely destroy demand for cash from third-party gold-selling sites.  It is *much* safer for someone to go sell a CREDD or the equivalent for some extra cash than to give their credit card information to a shady website hosted on an anonymous web server in some obscure part of the world.  It's honestly the most effective strategy to combat RMT (and the credit card fraud that goes along with it) that game companies have adopted in the last ten years, and probably something every game should be doing.	
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Yeah,
 
You're aware that Wildstar basically copied PLEX verbatim, correct? Also, Khrono from Everquest II, REX from Rift, Gems from Neverwinter, etc...
 
Seems like you have a chip on your shoulder about WoW, who is possibly the only MMO out there who hasn't implemented this system in some fashion yet.
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It's great for any MMO.
 
It kills the grey market, which is much bigger in games older or more populated, and gives both wealthy and poor players of the same game a secure, tangible benefit.
 
So honestly, it's great for any game, but for a game like WoW with a much bigger "grey" market, it's arguably better. The only concerns that rise from it is the increase in bots generating gold from the game.	
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Never touched EVE, so this is new to me.  Huh.
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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/18141101/introducing-the-wow-token-3-2-2015
 
"Players will be able to purchase a WoW Token through the in-game Shop for real money, and then sell it on the Auction House for gold at the current market price. When a player buys a WoW Token from the Auction House for gold, the Token becomes Soulbound, and the player can then redeem it for 30 days of game time."
 
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I guess.
 
EDIT:  The biggest problem I have with this system is (copied from another of my posts): this system is GREAT for a newly-minted MMO.  For a 9-year old game with lots of money-saturated players, that's a different story.  I wouldn't dare implement something like this in a game with that much time and that much in-game currency floating about.
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Q: Why can’t players set their own prices for the WoW Token?A: The WoW Token feature is designed to facilitate the exchange of gold and game time between players in as secure, convenient, and fair a way as possible, and without making players feel like they’re playing a game with their hard-earned money. Having a set current market price and a straightforward exchange system is the best way to achieve that—you don’t need to worry about whether your Token will sell or not due to being undercut or the market shifting, and everyone receives exactly the amount of gold they were quoted.
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Imitation? You mean imitation by all the other games, because WoW did it first, obviously, and everyone else is just a WoW clone!
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Blizzard is babying their customers again...deciding the price of the token rather than letting the players do it.
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I'm not sure where you're going with this post.
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It's a market exchange...which means the price is determined by the market. Or to put it another way, exactly the same system C.R.E.D.D uses now.
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Actually CREDD is player driven and not a set price by Carbine.
 
Blizzard is actually going to put a price on it and it stays at that price. Exactly as this says:
 
Q: Why can’t players set their own prices for the WoW Token?
A: The WoW Token feature is designed to facilitate the exchange of gold and game time between players in as secure, convenient, and fair a way as possible, and without making players feel like they’re playing a game with their hard-earned money. Having a set current market price and a straightforward exchange system is the best way to achieve that—you don’t need to worry about whether your Token will sell or not due to being undercut or the market shifting, and everyone receives exactly the amount of gold they were quoted.
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			\o/ now I can play both my games without paying :D	
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No....when you go to put it up for sale, the game quotes you a price based on CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS. It's called placing a sell order. Once your sell order gets purchased, the next sell order, be it higher or lower, is then sold. It's basically snapshotting the market conditions. it's the same thing CREDD does on the CREDD exchange.
 
EDIT: And while you can try to "name your price" as a custom sell order with CREDD, it will basically NEVER get sold if it's not in line with the sell orders quoted by the exchange.
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Okay, I see what you were saying. I misread what Blizzard had posted and got the wrong idea from it.
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Oh look, blizzard is "taking inspiration" from other MMO's again, I remember when they did the same with rift features.... and countless other MMO's, it's no big surprise haha xD
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Every game does this are people really this stubborn?
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My problem isn't that they're implementing it (and I just learned about PLEX anyway) - my problem is that this system is GREAT for a newly-minted MMO.  For a 9-year old game with lots of money-saturated players, that's a different story.
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			Way to passively advertise for world of warcraft.	
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Way to passively advertise for world of warcraft.
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Way to passively advertise for world of warcraft.
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Way to passively advertise for world of warcraft.
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After playing for over 9 years I think I  may know the game ( and the reason I no longer play )
 
I and most of the people I knew had 100's of 1,000's in gold so not really sure it will work for wow, plus blizzard just chuck meaningless epics at players for doing nothing! So what will players buy ?	
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To be totally fair, it's not like any of us are learning about WoW from this thread.
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World of Warcraft: A videogame in the MMORPG genre that is less fluid, colorful, and fun than Wildstar
 
Now learning has happened.
 
*sparkles* "The more you know" *sparkles*
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Uh no.
Comparing=/=promoting.
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This coming from someone who has been very active promoting other games when comparing them to WildStar.
 
Double standards much.
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Then by your own explanation, my post is not promoting.
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			I actually like this, my sub was ending with WoW and just like with every expansion I was just going to let my time come to a closing until the next but now I just may stick around and accept the horrible reality that I must transfer to Horde >.>	
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You posted a direct link to Blizzards website of one of their hype posts...
 
It's not even close to the same thing.
You're directly linking back to a Blizzard content post about a Blizzard game, and it has NOTHING to do with wildstar.
 
I'm comparing the mechanics of other games with the current mechanics of WildStar, a direct comparison to make suggestions of how wildstar can improve.
There's no compare and contrast to be made here, you just blatently posted Blizzard content on WildStar's forums.
This has nothing to do with WildStar.
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I made a direct comparison to the CREDD system.
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No you didn't.
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You must have missed the title of the thread. 
 
Thanks kindly, Fran, you've convinced me to report my own *cupcake*ing forum thread for closure just so people like you can't post in it.
 
What a mistake thinking I could get a discussion out of these forums.  Enjoy your little victory.
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You must have missed the title of the thread. 
 
Thanks kindly, Fran, you've convinced me to report my own *cupcake*ing forum thread for closure just so people like you can't post in it.
 
What a mistake thinking I could get a discussion out of these forums.  Enjoy your little victory.
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You started accusing and blaming, if you noticed I removed a significant amount of your quote and only related back to your subject matter.
You didnt reply at all with any intent to debate, you just pointed fingers and played the blame game.
 
I don't see why you thought posting blizzard content on the general discussion forum was a good idea, when it's clearly not a wildstar related topic.
 
That's what Offtopic is for.
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Then report it and have it moved.
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 :(
 
I thought it was a good thread, which would be nice to discuss about the CREDD system in general, regardless of "imitation" and anyways you can always make another one for someone to inevitably ruin at some point ^-^ /gentle hug
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Some much arguing over a news annoucement. #weird
 
Only major difference I see, unless I am reading their site announcement wrong, is that the new WoW Token is BoP for the first person to buy it for real gold. So it can't be bought and sold over and over again as way to "play the market". You buy it for gold, you have to use it. Throw in the hand holding of WoW setting a fixed price mentioned on the first page of this thread and you got much more controlled/big brother feel than CREDD.
 
This was smart for Blizzard's model though as it completely cuts out the gold sellers/botter market from being able to use huge buying power to manipulate the market by buying up all the WoW Tokens and selling them at a much higher price.	
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Some much arguing over a news annoucement. #weird
 
Only major difference I see, unless I am reading their site announcement wrong, is that the new WoW Token is BoP for the first person to buy it for real gold. So it can't be bought and sold over and over again as way to "play the market". You buy it for gold, you have to use it. Throw in the hand holding of WoW setting a fixed price mentioned on the first page of this thread and you got much more controlled/big brother feel than CREDD.
 
This was smart for Blizzard's model though as it completely cuts out the gold sellers/botter market from being able to use huge buying power to manipulate the market by buying up all the WoW Tokens and selling them at a much higher price.
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Wait are people doing that in Wildstar?
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I did actually, I reported it as offtopic and that it should be moved or removed.
 
But apparently the mods are on a coffee/lunch break or dealing with something else, I dunno.
Yeah I called you out, but there was no need for you to start attacking me and playing the blame game the instant I said anything.
 
WoW news has nothing to do with WildStar, no matter if they did seem to copy cat WildStar.
 
 
Vics comment was fine.
 
Yours however
 
This part of your comment, what other use for this comment was this for other than to express personal dislike and flamebaiting behavior?
The other part of your comment was fine, why go and make it a personal attack?
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			People are so hostile on these forums, sometimes you make a lighthearted post and it's more like you've just picked up a torch and pitchfork and are chasing after them with gusto screaming "ANGRY WORDS ANGRY WOOOORDS", then you end up being in this endless cycle of "who is the most mean", I mean it happens on most forums but here it's just so... wow... It makes my moodswings look pretty stable in comparison.	
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I must correct: you can buy CREDD from the in-game vendor and then resell it at an higher price. Assuming you have enough platinum, you can buy all of the CREDD supply and monopolize it by buying the lower offers. 
You -do- need a massive ammount of platinum to do that, though. It's actually something that happened during the Holy Garden Exploit Batman! week (or month?), where lots of people were making lots of money and likely laundrying it by buying CREDD. 	
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People are so hostile on these forums, sometimes you make a lighthearted post and it's more like you've just picked up a torch and pitchfork and are chasing after them with gusto screaming "ANGRY WORDS ANGRY WOOOORDS", then you end up being in this endless cycle of "who is the most mean", I mean it happens on most forums but here it's just so... wow... It makes my moodswings look pretty stable in comparison.
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I don't think that's possible in Wildstar.  I haven't used CREDD to pay for a sub (so if someone does and has bought one from the exchange, then put it up for resale, let me know), but my understanding is that is how it works in Wildstar as well.  Once you buy it from the exchange, I believe it's bound to you.  I haven't heard of resellers.
 
That isn't the case with EVE Online and the PLEX system, though.  In that game, PLEX is an item like any other that can be bought, sold, and transferred from one station to the next to change the price.  In that game, it actually is like any other item, and can be traded as a commodity.  PLEX actually is a completely free-market driven item in EVE, with the benefits and drawbacks that entails.
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To be fair, I do have a temper on me.  I won't say I'm squeaky clean when it comes to forum angst.
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I'm awful with anger, like a ticking timebomb, only occurs when someone sets me off though. Generally I'm quite calm :P
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To be fair, I do have a temper on me.  I won't say I'm squeaky clean when it comes to forum angst.
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I don't think that's possible in Wildstar.  I haven't used CREDD to pay for a sub (so if someone does and has bought one from the exchange, then put it up for resale, let me know), but my understanding is that is how it works in Wildstar as well.  Once you buy it from the exchange, I believe it's bound to you.  I haven't heard of resellers.
 
That isn't the case with EVE Online and the PLEX system, though.  In that game, PLEX is an item like any other that can be bought, sold, and transferred from one station to the next to change the price.  In that game, it actually is like any other item, and can be traded as a commodity.  PLEX actually is a completely free-market driven item in EVE, with the benefits and drawbacks that entails.
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The way it works in Wildstar is if you buy credd with real $$ you can:
sell it on the credd exchange
trade it directly to another player
use it yourself
if you buy it from the credd exchange you can:
sell it on the credd exchange later
use it yourself
 
compare this to the babying blizzard does where you:
are told what price to sell it for
cannot resell it if you buy it in game
cannot trade directly to another player yourself if you bought it with money
 
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			Guess that kind of puts a burden on Carbine to make their game worth playing, not, "more convenient than that other game."	
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\o/ now I can play both my games without paying :D
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hehe i was thinking the same thing too...i think that i may first have to get a regular 30 day sub with a CC/debit card or game time card to activate my inactive account.  Then once that is done i can pool all my gold and buy all the B.L.E.X  or B.L.E.E.D or whatever Blizz is going to call their token system.
 
yaaaaay!
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			I don't play wow, and never even tried it. But all this posts about Wow are making me curious to give it a try.	
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Not gonna lie, I can be one hell of a *cupcake* when someone starts throwing fingers at me, or starts using plurals incorrectly.
Say "aurins" one more damned time...
 
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And what is the point of bashing WoW about this just to try to feel superior?
 
 
Wildstar wasnt even first to introduce something like C.R.E.D.D..	
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LOL, I can not express how much I hope they call it B.L.E.E.D.!  What an awesome name. :)  What can that acronym stand for? ;)
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People are so hostile on these forums, sometimes you make a lighthearted post and it's more like you've just picked up a torch and pitchfork and are chasing after them with gusto screaming "ANGRY WORDS ANGRY WOOOORDS", then you end up being in this endless cycle of "who is the most mean", I mean it happens on most forums but here it's just so... wow... It makes my moodswings look pretty stable in comparison.
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			common tactic use by many business giants in any industry. because of power, take good ideas from competitors and do it better. because they already have a large share of the market, for the majority will be their first chance to be exposed to the innovation even if it really came from another source. mcdonald's is a great example of this.	
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common tactic use by many business giants in any industry. because of power, take good ideas from competitors and do it better. because they already have a large share of the market, for the majority will be their first chance to be exposed to the innovation even if it really came from another source. mcdonald's is a great example of this.
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hmm...how about:
 
BLizzard Electronic Exodus Delay system?
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No it isn't.  I mean, I don't play WoW anymore, but let's not call Blizz devs the equivalent of McDonalds execs.  McDonalds isn't even as good as Wendy's, let alone Five Guys.  Meanwhile, I don't think WoW is as good as Wildstar, but that's because Wildstar is the Smashburger of that equation.
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I don't mean in quality or personal preference. I mean from a market share perspective. In the fast food industry McDonald's is the leader as WoW is in the MMO industry.
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No it isn't.  I mean, I don't play WoW anymore, but let's not call Blizz devs the equivalent of McDonalds execs.  McDonalds isn't even as good as Wendy's, let alone Five Guys.  Meanwhile, I don't think WoW is as good as Wildstar, but that's because Wildstar is the Smashburger of that equation.
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Yea right up to the point that the blizzard players think that they came up with it first.
 
I'm not laughing. 
 
I know the games that came before wildstar that use this system, I also know that a large part of the population see the art style of wildstar and compare it to warcraft in the unflattering(and untruthful) term of clone. So now when I explain C.R.E.D.D. I expect to hear "Oh so they copied wow tokens?" 
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And what is the point of bashing WoW about this just to try to feel superior?
 
 
Wildstar wasnt even first to introduce something like C.R.E.D.D..
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You're not laughing? The 10 million people playing *that* game are having a ball and laughing... and here you are all bitter and miserable playing the *other* game. Maybe you should just play the game that you enjoy and not focus on belittling the other game. Seems kinda silly huh now?
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Potentially, WildStar just got screwed because WoW did this.
 
We'll see, but I'm with arachnaas.
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You're not laughing? The 10 million people playing *that* game are having a ball and laughing... and here you are all bitter and miserable playing the *other* game. Maybe you should just play the game that you enjoy and not focus on belittling the other game. Seems kinda silly huh now?
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what is your ranking of burger joints?
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I don't play wow, and never even tried it. But all this posts about Wow are making me curious to give it a try.
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Smashburger just recently edged out Five Guys, because they're really amazing (if there's one in your area, treat yourself).  After that you get into a tier of actual restaurant chains, places like Max and Erma's.  Then the upper class end of the fast food spectrum, your Wendy's and Rally's.  Then the lower class burger joints, McDonalds, Burger King, et al.  Finally you get into the lower end.  I'm not a fan of White Castle, so they're definitely in that category, but at least I can see why someone would like White Castle.  Mostly, it's those restaurants whose burgers are very thin and taste like school cafeteria food.  That's the lower echelon.
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Burger 21 > Smashburger >>>>> Five Guys (imo)
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I guess I don't really "get" Five Guys. I don't care for their buns, they always end up being a mess, and I'm pretty sure I can make a better burger at home. I always regret spending the money there.
 
I do like Smashburger a lot, but Burger 21 edges it out, IMO. Can't really qualify why. I used to like Smashburger the best until I tried Burger 21. But no accounting for taste, eh?	
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I guess I don't really "get" Five Guys. I don't care for their buns, they always end up being a mess, and I'm pretty sure I can make a better burger at home. I always regret spending the money there.
 
I do like Smashburger a lot, but Burger 21 edges it out, IMO. Can't really qualify why. I used to like Smashburger the best until I tried Burger 21. But no accounting for taste, eh?
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On topic, if I was Blizzard I would totally do this, and I wouldn't be ashamed of it at all.
 
If someone else has a good idea, why not incorporate it.
 
I once has a business professor tell me that one key to success is figuring out what your competitor can do to put you out of business and then doing it. Always be competing with yourself. Well, if an idea like CREDD comes along (and whatever variation came before it) and it seems to work, by all means incorporate it. No shame in implementing good features. Only pride would prevent them from not doing it.
 
I think CREDD is a great idea, even though I've not touched it in any form.	
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On topic, if I was Blizzard I would totally do this, and I wouldn't be ashamed of it at all.
 
If someone else has a good idea, why not incorporate it.
 
I once has a business professor tell me that one key to success is figuring out what your competitor can do to put you out of business and then doing it. Always be competing with yourself. Well, if an idea like CREDD comes along (and whatever variation came before it) and it seems to work, by all means incorporate it. No shame in implementing good features. Only pride would prevent them from not doing it.
 
I think CREDD is a great idea, even though I've not touched it in any form.
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Just strange that PLEX has existed for years in EVE, and it's only just now being copied into WoW.
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Just strange that PLEX has existed for years in EVE, and it's only just now being copied into WoW.
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WS is a closer game to WoW than EVE. And now there are more data points than there were.
 
Clearly players are using it, so whatever else you can say about WS, this model appears to be successful in more than one game.
 
It seems everyone likes to dog Blizzard (especially WoW players themselves), but I actually have always been pretty impressed by them. I started with WC and then played Diablo and just always thought they did top-notch, innovative work. It doesn't mean they are always first out of the gate (though sometimes they were), but they always did make fun games that had a good set of features.
 
If WoW was as fun for me as WS, I'd be playing it without hesitation. But it's not.
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Funny thing you guys talking about these burger joints - I eat Wendy's because it is the closest to my work. I go through the drive through, and within a minute I've got a burger in my hand.
 
There's a Five Guys nearby-ish, and I check it out from time to time, but Wendy's is my bread and butter because I've got better things to do than drive 15 minutes out of my way just to a slightly better tasting burger (and maybe it isn't even better tasting, maybe I just think it is because I'm usually so hungry by the time I get my food that my body tricks my brain into thinking it tastes better).
 
This is literally the situation IRL, but it is a good analogy for how I view these MMOs as well. I've tried the 10-day trial offer of Five Guys for previous customers but I'm not really hooked - whereas Wendy's is right nearby and I can play, erm, eat Wendy's right now, without having attune to the burgers, or whatever. Also Wendy's fries aren't an AE-fest (well, until you outgear them... or outfat them? I dunno this analogy is starting to wear thin).
 
On the topic of CREDD/WoW Tokens, meh. I won't participate in that economy personally, and I don't think it will change the game radically.	
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Funny thing you guys talking about these burger joints - I eat Wendy's because it is the closest to my work. I go through the drive through, and within a minute I've got a burger in my hand.
 
There's a Five Guys nearby-ish, and I check it out from time to time, but Wendy's is my bread and butter because I've got better things to do than drive 15 minutes out of my way just to a slightly better tasting burger (and maybe it isn't even better tasting, maybe I just think it is because I'm usually so hungry by the time I get my food that my body tricks my brain into thinking it tastes better).
 
This is literally the situation IRL, but it is a good analogy for how I view these MMOs as well. I've tried the 10-day trial offer of Five Guys for previous customers but I'm not really hooked - whereas Wendy's is right nearby and I can play, erm, eat Wendy's right now, without having attune to the burgers, or whatever. Also Wendy's fries aren't an AE-fest.
 
On the topic of CREDD/WoW Tokens, meh. I won't participate in that economy personally, and I don't think it will change the game radically.
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This is literally the situation IRL, but it is a good analogy for how I view these MMOs as well. I've tried the 10-day trial offer of Five Guys for previous customers but I'm not really hooked - whereas Wendy's is right nearby and I can play, erm, eat Wendy's right now, without having attune to the burgers, or whatever. Also Wendy's fries aren't an AE-fest (well, until you outgear them... or outfat them? I dunno this analogy is starting to wear thin).
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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/18141101/introducing-the-wow-token-3-2-2015
 
"Players will be able to purchase a WoW Token through the in-game Shop for real money, and then sell it on the Auction House for gold at the current market price. When a player buys a WoW Token from the Auction House for gold, the Token becomes Soulbound, and the player can then redeem it for 30 days of game time."
 
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I guess.
 
EDIT:  The biggest problem I have with this system is (copied from another of my posts): this system is GREAT for a newly-minted MMO.  For a 9-year old game with lots of money-saturated players, that's a different story.  I wouldn't dare implement something like this in a game with that much time and that much in-game currency floating about.
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Kind of like how WildStar took this system from EVE huh?  LMAO love people who need to post this stuff and take any shot they can at WoW.  Where shall we start with the stuff WildStar used from WoW?  So I guess yeah, Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I guess.  You must be new to mmo's though if you didn't think everyone uses stuff from everyone.
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Y'all are nuts. Whataburger all the way.
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			Y'all are nuts. Whataburger all the way.	
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Okay, I went to one in Houston.  That's Wendy's level at the very best.
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I almost never eat fast food because quality of food is way more important to me than convenience.
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I'm gonna have to be that guy.
 
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At no point did I take a shot at WoW. 
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On the topic of actual burgers, I lift 30 minutes after I get out of work. I just need a high calorie meal with some caffeine and some carbs that I can get ASAP. After I work out, anywhere from 20 to 30 minutes after I get back from the gym I'm hitting a raid. I don't have any time during the day to spend to waste with food until well after the point that I'd need to already be eating.
 
Taste is nice - I'd be less inclined to make McDonald's a mainstay as my pre-workout meal - but Wendy's is good enough to fill that role. It isn't realistic to go out of my way to get anything else.
 
It sounds like you aren't really the target demographic of fast food, but I find myself in that demographic.
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I'm gonna have to be that guy.
 
 
Name of thread: "Nice CREDD system, Blizzard."
 
As an aside, how this thread hasn't been moved to Off-Topic yet baffles me. Selective modding.
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Maybe you just don't know me well enough, but if I wanted to take a potshot at Blizzard I'd have used a title like "Blizzard shamelessly copies CREDD."  I'm just interested in how this is going to work out for them.  I guess people just want to read this stuff and find a reason to spit fire.
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Not gonna believe that, because you made this thread under the impression that WoW tokens WERE a blatant rip-off of CREDD. You had to be told that PLEX and other systems existed long before CREDD did.
 
That you specifically called out Blizzard for something you feel they took from Carbine in particular is what sets off the alarms.
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Not gonna believe that, because you made this thread under the impression that WoW tokens WERE a blatant rip-off of CREDD. You had to be told that PLEX and other systems existed long before CREDD did.
 
That you specifically called out Blizzard for something you feel they took from Carbine in particular is what sets off the alarms.
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I sometimes wonder how people manage to interpret such horrible things from so little, such as "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I guess.".... 
 
Some people will try to start a fire with water, I guess.	
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I sometimes wonder how people manage to interpret such horrible things from so little, such as "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I guess.".... 
 
Some people will try to start a fire with water, I guess.
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... what?  I'm sorry where in the hell did you get that idea?  At no point have I said "rip-off" or anything of the sort.  Again, I hadn't heard of PLEX, so the only system I could compare to is...  CREDD.  So there we go.  That conversation has been had.  Again.
 
I am seriously not ripping on Blizzard here, but hey, if you're more content with trying to bash me and cause a flame war, I'll give you the same advice I gave the other folks who tried that:  Take that garbage elsewhere.  You literally just put words in my mouth for the sake of starting an argument and I'm not going to put up with that.
 
I'd also like to thank you for proving my point:  People just want to spit fire.
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And, to be fair to you, if they were going to rip of PLEX, they would have done that a long time ago.  It probably is more accurate to say they're doing this from the example of CREDD (or other similar, but later implemented) systems.  They're years too late to be actually ripping off PLEX.
 
Wildstar ripped of PLEX.  Saying WoW then subsequently ripped off CREDD is probably more technically accurate.
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Not really sure what your point is.
 
 
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Same could be said of the thread itself. So, if I'm to believe this thread wasn't meant to be a self-congratulatory Carbine circle-jerk, what exactly is a thread that supposedly has nothing to do with either Wildstar OR the CREDD system doing in General Discussion for Wildstar?
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Same could be said of the thread itself. So, if I'm to believe this thread wasn't meant to be a self-congratulatory Carbine circle-jerk, what exactly is a thread that supposedly has nothing to do with either Wildstar OR the CREDD system doing in General Discussion for Wildstar?
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What's a circle jerk?
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Male bonding activity.
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