Report 360

Report #360
Skillset: Kata Skill: Forms
 Org: Tahtetso Status: Completed Apr 2010
Furies' Decision:
Max forms raised and forms made to list alphabetically.
Problem: There is currently a limit on the number of forms a monk can create
(75). The nature of ka (more ka available at high momentum -> forms need
different versions for different momenutm levels) means a monk who wants to use
their class to its fullest potential requires more than 75 slots. For example:
to deliver double hemiplegy, a Tahtetso needs forms to incorporate speed, kick,
soft, twist, concussion etc. as increasing momentum allows. Furthermore, the
monk will then need doubles of each of these forms to use the power mod where
necessary. If the monk is interested in delivering damage instead of wounding,
another set of forms will need to be made to replace soft with hard. So here
you can see for 1 type of attack, the monk could use up to 16 of their 75 forms.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #1: Raise the maximum number of forms to 150.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #2: Rework the power, damage and wounding mods to
 function like knight combatstyles. This would reduce
 the need for copies of a form to do damage, wounding
 or razing.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #3: Regardless of whether the cap is raised, could the
 list of KATA FORMS be listed alphabetically and a
 KATA RENAME function be added?
Player Comments:
---[Placeus on 4/6 @ 06:17 writes]:
I would prefer Solution 1 as it keeps monks distinct from knights, requires less
coding and has less impact on other aspects of combat.
---[Ilaveuse on 4/6 @ 08:12 writes]:
Agreed with Placeus on all counts. Monks used to have a huge number of forms
available to them, either it was unlimited or the limit was so high that it
essentially didn't matter. I was never clear on why that particular aspect of
monks was instigated in the first place, so sure, raise the cap.
---[Lehki on 4/6 @ 22:17 writes]:
Definite no on solution 2. Solution 1 sounds fine. If a cap was put in at some
point, I'd imagine it was because of memory usage issues on the server.
---[Thul on 4/7 @ 04:51 writes]:
Solution 1 looks like it'd be easiest. Might get a little unwieldy, though, at
that number of forms... any chance of a KATA RENAME function and alphabetical
sorting on the KATA FORMS list?
---[Ilaveuse on 4/7 @ 06:04 writes]:
Er, yeah, should clarify, agreeing with solution 1, not 2. If server space is a
problem, keep the cap as high as feasible, please.
---[Viynain on 4/12 @ 09:03 writes]:
Solution 1 is much simpler than a 5th redo on monk formulae.
---[Placeus on 4/13 @ 04:43 writes]:
Included Thul's suggestions re alphabetical listing and KATA RENAME
---[Jayden on 4/13 @ 19:09 writes]:
Fond of solution 1
---[Fillin on 4/20 @ 05:54 writes]:
I have nothing against solution 1, but why not, perhaps in addition, change the
'lunge' mods (jakati, skive, etc) to function like boost. That is, you don't put
them in a form, but you could do say, kata perform *monkspam and the asterisk
would tell it to use lunge. I'm told lunge doesn't take ka, so it wouldn't
change anything except reduce the number of form clones you need to make.
---[Placeus on 4/30 @ 03:29 writes]:
Good idea Fillin. I just did a quick count and that change would reduce my
total forms from 75 to 60. I think a raise in the cap is still needed, but your
suggestion would reduce the total number of forms if memory etc. is a concern.