109293-dont-tell-people-to-stop-complaining

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Hi there!I've just had a few hours on my hands to read through a few forum posts and i must say there are a lot of worries floating around the community at the moment. What worries me is that some people are telling others to stop complaining. Let me clear a few things up for those people. 
People does not complain about things they do not care about. If you see someone making a post "I think this is bad, please carbine do that", that person probably enjoys the game at multiple levels but want the game to become even better. Very few people are posting complaints because they dont like the game	We can all agree that there are multiple aspects of the game and almost every aspect has its flawes at the moment, denying that is just being ignorant. For Carbine to know what to change people need to voice their oppinion on what needs fixing. (I can however not garantuee that Carbine will listen)
As i've stated myself several times, my biggest worry is the population of EU servers and how they seem to be declining. I knew the population was low when i started a week ago but i've gotten myself to 50 and i'm loving the game. Except for the fact that there seem to be few people. Not just on my server but overall in Europe. Sad part about this problem is that there isnt any direct fix... Carbine just have to try and solve other problems and make the game better so that more people will want to play it :dOh well now i went off topic, but only because im passionate about the game. Hope i didn't ruin someones day.	
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Stop complaining
 
 
First	
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Complain more
 
 
2nd
 
Good post op, makes sense.	
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			People should never complain.  Complaining is pointless.  Constructive criticism is not complaining.  People should have constructive criticism.  When you say, "Fix this or I quit," you should be ignored.  Let them know what is broken, if they choose to fix it in the way you want, stay.  If not, they have a different design philosophy than you and you can either choose to accept it or leave.	
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On a more serious note...
 
People are entitled to post their opinions and beliefs on the forums.  That is what they are here for.  However, I am sure you can relate to many of the following pet peeves, which do nothing to progress anything:
 
Sense of entitlement - issues have been brought up, development team indicated how it would be resolved, and without even bothering to look, a new thread is created with this exact issues, crying for some resolution.
Duplicate threads - Threads with same content, same message, recreated. 
Misinformed opinions, or failure to read up on information.  Not knowing is fine, but when you fail to actually look into and learn about something prior to making posts, then go on tangents based on this misinformation. 
Needless crying - Voice your concern, don't just whine for the sake of whining.  Look for a resolution.
Unrealistic demands - "Fix this bug now" "what you didnt fix xxxx bug?".  Learn the process, and curb your expectations
False assumptions - this is not WoW.  Don't assume everything should be treated the way WoW was.
Mental Retardation - Broad subject here.  Such as "this game has no end game for a casual player".  You chosing not to particpate does NOT mean there is not content.  Perhaps the content is not interesting to you, that is a valid concern.  But don't blackball it if its a certain way because you choose to make it that way.	
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			But complaining doesn't accomplish anything.  All it does is pollute the place with negativity.  A person saying "X problem, I offer Y solution" isn't complaining though, that's constructive criticism.  Now, the people that have to chime in on the obviously constructive criticism posts and tell them to "Stop complaining her-der" are just as bad/guilty as real complainers and I can understand telling them STFU/GTFO.	
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On a more serious note...
 
People are entitled to post their opinions and beliefs on the forums.  That is what they are here for.  However, I am sure you can relate to many of the following pet peeves, which do nothing to progress anything:
 
Sense of entitlement - issues have been brought up, development team indicated how it would be resolved, and without even bothering to look, a new thread is created with this exact issues, crying for some resolution.
Duplicate threads - Threads with same content, same message, recreated. 
Misinformed opinions, or failure to read up on information.  Not knowing is fine, but when you fail to actually look into and learn about something prior to making posts, then go on tangents based on this misinformation. 
Needless crying - Voice your concern, don't just whine for the sake of whining.  Look for a resolution.
Unrealistic demands - "Fix this bug now" "what you didnt fix xxxx bug?".  Learn the process, and curb your expectations
False assumptions - this is not WoW.  Don't assume everything should be treated the way WoW was.
Mental Retardation - Broad subject here.  Such as "this game has no end game for a casual player".  You chosing not to particpate does NOT mean there is not content.  Perhaps the content is not interesting to you, that is a valid concern.  But don't blackball it if its a certain way because you choose to make it that way.
 
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Yeah.
 
Stop complaining.
 
Don't care if not first. Just do it.	
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			If I complain about you complaining about complaining, and then you in turn complain about my complaint, does the universe implode?	
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If I complain about you complaining about complaining, and then you in turn complain about my complaint, does the universe implode?
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People should never complain.  Complaining is pointless.  Constructive criticism is not complaining.  People should have constructive criticism.  When you say, "Fix this or I quit," you should be ignored.  Let them know what is broken, if they choose to fix it in the way you want, stay.  If not, they have a different design philosophy than you and you can either choose to accept it or leave.
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People should never complain. Complaining is pointless. Constructive criticism is not complaining. People should have constructive criticism. When you say, "Fix this or I quit," you should be ignored. Let them know what is broken, if they choose to fix it in the way you want, stay. If not, they have a different design philosophy than you and you can either choose to accept it or leave.
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If I complain about you complaining about complaining, and then you in turn complain about my complaint, does the universe implode?
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Don't fall into the trap of semantics, trying to sort posts into "criticism" and "complaining" posts.
 
If you're dissatisfied with something, do not hesitate to put it out there in public for all of us to see. That being said, there's obvious ways to package and market your ideas and feedback into something attractive that people will want to reply to, keep on top of the forum's scrolling filters, and in the limelight.
 
Do you want to see things get better and improve, or are you just blowing off steam? Think about it for a second before you post, and give another thought afterwards in case a quick edit would make your thoughts more coherent.
 	
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Complaining = bad
Constructive criticism = good	
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			What if it's a complaint that is also constructive? A Constructive complaint o_o	
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Hey everyone,
 
Since this is really a thread about threads, I'm going to go ahead and lock it down. These never go well. If you find something you like, find something you don't like, or maybe find something that isn't working quite right, please post about it in the appropriate forum sections, and keep it game related. ;)Thanks,Team WildStar	
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