143000-not-fun-anymore

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			Breaking news: buying pets, mounts and costumes from Store isn't mandatory for playing the game.	
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Myself and 6 of my friends I brought from other mmo's have all decided enough is enough...this game is loads of fun but is totaly unplayable in its current form....We cannot justify paying any money into the cashshop as we cant do any adventures/dungeons or anything due to the game in its current form (laghell)
 
We have all decided to leave ...I might be back in a few months to see if its still around ....but doubtfull any of my firends will come back...its left a sour taste in thier mouths.
 
 
Wether this is thier intention to leave the game in this state untill the crowds naturally decline who knows...but its bad business practice and no mention of what they plan to do...makes us all think its just a cash grab with little to no investment into fixing the lag problems
 
Thank you for the fun......
 
But theres other mmo's we can play together that are not lag hell pits......	
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Myself and 6 of my friends I brought from other mmo's have all decided enough is enough...this game is loads of fun but is totaly unplayable in its current form....We cannot justify paying any money into the cashshop as we cant do any adventures/dungeons or anything due to the game in its current form (laghell)
 
We have all decided to leave ...I might be back in a few months to see if its still around ....but doubtfull any of my firends will come back...its left a sour taste in thier mouths.
 
 
Wether this is thier intention to leave the game in this state untill the crowds naturally decline who knows...but its bad business practice and no mention of what they plan to do...makes us all think its just a cash grab with little to no investment into fixing the lag problems
 
Thank you for the fun......
 
But theres other mmo's we can play together that are not lag hell pits......
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			sry to hear that. hf in the other games :)	
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			Cya, I'll be here.  B)	
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They don't pay and they're furious.
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			Good luck and goodbye. :)	
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			Don't really understand announcing that you're 'leaving' a free-to-play game, but have fun whatever you're playing!	
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Breaking news: buying pets, mounts and costumes from Store isn't mandatory for playing the game.
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Captain Obvious, saving the day again.
 
He means he doesn't want to waste any money on a game he can't play. Carbine wants, no, needs that money. He's telling Carbine they have lost money.
 
Carbine getting money IS mandatory so people can continue playing this game.
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He means he doesn't want to waste any money on a game he can't play. Carbine wants, no, needs that money. He's telling Carbine they have lost money.
 
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			so dont put money into the cash shop until you do think its playable ... strange how not putting money in the cash shop means u stop playing ...	
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Well he hasn't SPENT any money. Neither have his "six friends" (why is it always six friends? Freebots must travel in packs of seven) ... So no money lost.
 
While I firmly sympathize with his frustration, the only thing it will he'll get by bringing it here is more grief from people who are patient enough to wait for Carbine to fix things, but aren't patient enough to sit through yet another "I'm leaving" thread.
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To begin with, I've been playing/raiding all this week basically, when was it ever unplayable?
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People that make comments like yours irritate the ever living crap out of me.
 
Just because you don't have any issues, and if you are playing on the EU servers I call bovine excrement on (zone chat in several zones have been full of complaints about lag since the "launch" of free to play and haven't stopped yet), doesn't mean nobody else has issues.
 
"It works for me so it must work for everyone" ... no, just no.
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Apparently raiding is a solo activity.
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Un/fortunately raiding is done in almost standalone instances so the server lag (from loot etc) has very little to minor effect on it
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People that make comments like yours irritate the ever living crap out of me.
 
Just because you don't have any issues, and if you are playing on the EU servers I call bovine excrement on (zone chat in several zones have been full of complaints about lag since the "launch" of free to play and haven't stopped yet), doesn't mean nobody else has issues.
 
"It works for me so it must work for everyone" ... no, just no.
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Oh look, it's a smart arse.
 
I take it back, it's not just comments like yours that irritate me it's you.
 
 
 
Neither have I since free to play launched.
 
I'll sub when the servers are stable though.
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OP, don't plough any money into the game until you're happy with performance..
 
I'm staying freep until I see improvements, and if the required improvement don't come in a reasonable time-frame I'll move on..  But c'mon it's F2P so it's costing you nothing to have some patience.. 	
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Man i dont have any lag, i only saw it on forums today that ppl have trouble with it.. its stupid to "come back in few months" when they gonna fix it in day or two :S  if u lag that bad give it few days do you have to play it every single day?
 	
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Man i dont have any lag, i only saw it on forums today that ppl have trouble with it.. its stupid to "come back in few months" when they gonna fix it in day or two :S  if u lag that bad give it few days do you have to play it every single day?
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do you have to play it every single day?
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			The greatest part about F2P is that it doesn't cost you anything to try it out.  If it's not how you like it, then take a break, go play something else.  The game will(hopefully!)  still be there when you want to give it another shot.   There is no way to prove or disprove that the OP was going to spend money on Wildstar. You can not prove loss of POTENTIAL revenue.  Threatening to not spend money on something when you have zero investment in it in the first place is not a valid argument.  Claiming that you have multiple friends who are also not spending money(presumably in order to enhance your statement), is not a valid argument.      Nobody likes lag.  But this isn't the way to go about expressing your dislike of it.  Do you think Carbine is just sitting around laughing about how poor people's gaming experiences are?  Just make  your statement "The lag is preventing me from enjoying the game"  without any embellishment.   
			
				
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Well he hasn't SPENT any money. Neither have his "six friends" (why is it always six friends? Freebots must travel in packs of seven) ... So no money lost.
 
While I firmly sympathize with his frustration, the only thing it will he'll get by bringing it here is more grief from people who are patient enough to wait for Carbine to fix things, but aren't patient enough to sit through yet another "I'm leaving" thread.
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with comments like this and the "ok bye then" comments are just making me draw question marks. like do you even remember WHY this game went f2p? if it was making all this great money and had a large playerbase then the f2p mdel would have NEVER been needed. also tex yes W* has "lost" any money but they still lost POTENTIAL money that they could have gotten. 
 
im really starting to see why people disliked the W* community. 
 
and side note those "freebots" tend to spend more money on a game than a sub person in most f2p games.
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Oh look, it's a smart arse.
 
I take it back, it's not just comments like yours that irritate me it's you.
 
 
 
Neither have I since free to play launched.
 
I'll sub when the servers are stable though.
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			All those problems would be gone if you were American  B) But for real, tough luck being in EU and having the bad servers. Hopefully they get them fixed.	
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People that make comments like yours irritate the ever living crap out of me.
 
Just because you don't have any issues, and if you are playing on the EU servers I call bovine excrement on (zone chat in several zones have been full of complaints about lag since the "launch" of free to play and haven't stopped yet), doesn't mean nobody else has issues.
 
"It works for me so it must work for everyone" ... no, just no.
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But its very hard to tell who is still suffering from an issue related to Carbine's servers, and who is causing their own grief. There's a surprising amount of online gamers who, despite how much they do or claim to play online, know little to nothing about proper PC and network configuration. Even worse when they insist they know and have done everything right when that's not the case at all.
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			Guys.  Seriously, if a customer finds the lag in the game difficult to play with, don't be jerks just because they mentioned they are taking their money elsewhere.  Sure, the whole topic of money being brought up makes them seem arrogant but the truth of the matter is, these posts are made from a place of frustration and while I roll my eyes at them, it is important for Carbine to see these threads that people are experiencing lag still. I emphasize again that yes, it's annoying seeing the crying about lag and it's even more annoying to see people talk about how them and all their friends are leaving and how they wont spend any money, but until Carbine gets it fixed, this will be a steady thing and they are in their right to point out the lag just as much as Carbine appreciates feeback, even if it is smothered in salt.	
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What a joke, the Dungeons are stored in another server, I NEVER  had any lag inside a Dungeon.
 
You don't have to buy anything from NCshop.
 
^This is what I said.
 
But this is what I really want to say for you and all of you who create shit topics about leaving the game:
 
You're leaving?
 	
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You're right, we should get on our knees and beg people on the internet to play WS, even though they basically already state they're "Uninstalling/Quitting", I for one don't see the logic behind it nor how a few forum people really play any part in them quitting, it's just kind of a cheap way to take a jab at the people on the forum and the community as a whole.
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Pop quiz time!
 
When one player leaves over something, odds are pretty good that there's still others who are also very irritated by the same issues but who are not yet out the door over them.
And then they come to the forums and see someone leave over something that they are also finding irritating, who gets mocked and called whiny losers by the self-appointed game "community".
 
Do you those other people who view the now absent player's complaint as having some merit to it become more likely to leave or less likely to leave when they see a string of comments following that players' complaint that say "we don't want players like you around anyways"?
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Lol alright bye. See you in a couple of weeks.
 
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The thing is, how many players do not post and just leave due to bad lag?  If forums are a small percent of the population, then figure that each positive post and each negative post actually represent a portion of the player base.  
 
I am positive that  Carbine is working very very hard to fix the lag.  I am sure that they are doing their absolute best to fix it.  The overtime is probably astronomical right now.  The biggest issue is that aside from the live stream on the second when they were talking about it, there has been radio silence.  How many players watched the live stream?  How many come to the forums?  There needs to be some solid PR going on about this issue or we will lose players AND get a bad reputation.  
 
The game is awesome and I would hate for this to cause it to lose players and get a bad rep to boot.  Carbine needs the income.  They say the launch to f2p has been amazing.  The sheer volume of players logging in and playing is way beyond what they anticipated.  THAT is awesome!  I would hate to see it slide down because of issues such as this.
 
Now as to the lag - It is actual server lag.  Zone chat is full of people complaining about it.  Now when I get hit with lag and ask if anyone else has and get MANY responses saying that they too have just  been hit, it is not my personal configuration.  Point of note:  I have never had lag before now when playing Wildstar, I can not remember if I had lag at the original launch, but we had a ton of servers then.  The lag issue is a major sticking point, it is hitting some really bad, others intermittently and others not at all it seems.  
 
To the OP: your choice is your own, if you leave then I am sorry to see you go as I want as many people enjoying the game and playing as much as possible so that we continue to be able to play Wildstar in the future.  More players = more money = more updates.  Now I am POSITIVE that they are working on fixing the lag as soon as possible, and YES I get pretty upset when Lag starts to negatively impact my play time.  But We need to understand that they were really not prepared for the sheer volume of people who have come to play Wildstar.  They expected to bring back old players and maybe a few new ones - instead they got a HUGE influx of new players and that is AWESOME.  
 
The game is free to play, so why not just relax and wait a bit?  (Now me, I found my subscription has lapsed about a month ago and so resubbed the game went live.  I have no real issues with downtime to lag, etc. as a paying customer simply because I really love the game and understand the underlying issues).	
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You're right, we should get on our knees and beg people on the internet to play WS, even though they basically already state they're "Uninstalling/Quitting", I for one don't see the logic behind it nor how a few forum people really play any part in them quitting, it's just kind of a cheap way to take a jab at the people on the forum and the community as a whole.
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Pop quiz time!
 
When one player leaves over something, odds are pretty good that there's still others who are also very irritated by the same issues but who are not yet out the door over them.
And then they come to the forums and see someone leave over something that they are also finding irritating, who gets mocked and called whiny losers by the self-appointed game "community".
 
Do you those other people who view the now absent player's complaint as having some merit to it become more likely to leave or less likely to leave when they see a string of comments following that players' complaint that say "we don't want players like you around anyways"?
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I will make sure to create a thread when I leave the game (if I leave) and I expect you guys posting on it like no tomorrow pretending it does matter, like you guys do in EVERY single topic about it.
 
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Just let me know and I'll gladly take your plat :)
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I will make sure to create a thread when I leave the game (if I leave) and I expect you guys posting on it like no tomorrow pretending it does matter, like you guys do in EVERY single topic about it.
 
Thank you.
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I will make sure to create a thread when I leave the game (if I leave) and I expect you guys posting on it like no tomorrow pretending it does matter, like you guys do in EVERY single topic about it.
 
Thank you.
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For me personally, context matters.  If the person comes on and though you can tell they're frustrated, they manage to stay fairly reasonable in their post and they are venting a bit while pointing out the issues they are having, I'll think badly of anyone that mocks them for it.  On the other hand, if the person is being a jackwagon, I won't feel bad for them if they get mocked.  Either way though, no one single type of poster represents the community as a whole, and if people can't separate individual opinions from the community as a whole, why is it the community's fault?     
I won't say which way I see the OP, because there's no point in adding fuel to either fire, no point to contributing to either side of the pissing match, I'm just answering that particular question.
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Well he hasn't SPENT any money. Neither have his "six friends" (why is it always six friends? Freebots must travel in packs of seven) ... So no money lost.
 
While I firmly sympathize with his frustration, the only thing it will he'll get by bringing it here is more grief from people who are patient enough to wait for Carbine to fix things, but aren't patient enough to sit through yet another "I'm leaving" thread.
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Every launch or relaunch has lag issues due to server burden, and the developers eventually handle the maintenance required within a month's time frame. Jumping ship when the game hasn't even caught its feet seems like a cop out excuse to have a pity party on your behalf; and the lag is simply an annoyance not unplayable or unbearable. 
No money is required to play, no content is gated, and if your issue is the lag you're simply an insufferable hedonist that must have his fat kid cake all the time, and only ever raises his face to complain their is no cake left. Either come with some legit feed back or go squeal about your gluttonous ass somewhere else.
			
				
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Myself and 6 of my friends I brought from other mmo's have all decided enough is enough...this game is loads of fun but is totaly unplayable in its current form....We cannot justify paying any money into the cashshop as we cant do any adventures/dungeons or anything due to the game in its current form (laghell)
 
We have all decided to leave ...I might be back in a few months to see if its still around ....but doubtfull any of my firends will come back...its left a sour taste in thier mouths.
 
 
Wether this is thier intention to leave the game in this state untill the crowds naturally decline who knows...but its bad business practice and no mention of what they plan to do...makes us all think its just a cash grab with little to no investment into fixing the lag problems
 
Thank you for the fun......
 
But theres other mmo's we can play together that are not lag hell pits......
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I live in Perth Western Australia....and we supposedly have the worst latency for gaming of any first world country because of all the hops we have to do to get to the servers. I have played this game with NOT ONE bit of lag. NOT ONE. I also dont have the most expensive fastest service. From the way you are posting it seems you havent investigated all the options and are blaming everything on NCSoft. I am totally puzzled because I have no problems what so ever. 
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Myself and 6 of my friends I brought from other mmo's have all decided enough is enough...this game is loads of fun but is totaly unplayable in its current form....We cannot justify paying any money into the cashshop as we cant do any adventures/dungeons or anything due to the game in its current form (laghell)
 
We have all decided to leave ...I might be back in a few months to see if its still around ....but doubtfull any of my firends will come back...its left a sour taste in thier mouths.
 
 
Wether this is thier intention to leave the game in this state untill the crowds naturally decline who knows...but its bad business practice and no mention of what they plan to do...makes us all think its just a cash grab with little to no investment into fixing the lag problems
 
Thank you for the fun......
 
But theres other mmo's we can play together that are not lag hell pits......
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Don't let the defenders get under your skin.  The community here didn't get their reputation so fast for no reason.  Only took a matter of months before they got it.  You will soon learn there is no saying anything negative about the game and don't even try to argue as they will defend everything to the ends of the earth.  If the servers were down for a week due to issues, they would say, "Just give it time.  Patience."
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That's actually not true at all.  Many hardcore Wildstar fans(myself included) are rational and objective enough to be very critical about the state of Wildstar.  This is because we WANT the game to be better than it is.  
 
 
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I'll just make sure to post this.
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That's actually not true at all.  Many hardcore Wildstar fans(myself included) are rational and objective enough to be very critical about the state of Wildstar.  This is because we WANT the game to be better than it is.  
 
Stereotypes are bad, m'kay?
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That's actually not true at all.  Many hardcore Wildstar fans(myself included) are rational and objective enough to be very critical about the state of Wildstar.  This is because we WANT the game to be better than it is.  
 
Stereotypes are bad, m'kay?
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I think you're both missing the point.
 
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Apparently that's all we ever do, in every post you show up in. No one's opinion matters except yours, as usual.
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Apparently that's all we ever do, in every post you show up in. No one's opinion matters except yours, as usual.
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			Obviously the best way to endear yourself to the Freebot Community is to continually tell the vets that *we* are the reason the game is F2P and that our opinions or thoughts are automagically wrong or short-sighted or missed-the-point because, you know ... reasons.	
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Apparently that's all we ever do, in every post you show up in. No one's opinion matters except yours, as usual.
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And here I thought the point of the thread was someone quitting over problems with lag--now noted by several people in the thread, not just the OP--between all the jeers and mocking.
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I think you're still missing the point. But your opinion certainly matters, even if it's off-topic, so I will take a moment to address it.
 
 
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Speaking of highlights, I'll use one to agree with you that aside from the people who do it, nobody's doing it.  :lol:
 
Look, I agree that people who post ragequit posts could be more diplomatic and polite and calm. They could write an extensive review and submit it for feedback and revise it accordingly.
But expecting them to do any of that is a fool's errand, because in order to do that you have to care about the game improving and if they did, they probably wouldn't be writing a ragequit post in the first place.
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Obviously the best way to endear yourself to the Freebot Community is to continually tell the vets that *we* are the reason the game is F2P and that our opinions or thoughts are automagically wrong or short-sighted or missed-the-point because, you know ... reasons.
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Well, I can't make you be the kind of nuanced game advocate you claim to be, so... have fun with that.
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And here I thought the point of the thread was someone quitting over problems with lag--now noted by several people in the thread, not just the OP--between all the jeers and mocking.
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Topic about quitting over lag =/= Topic about lag.
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I'm sure that's why he's always backing up all of his opinions (or trying to, at least) with actual arguments instead of throwing tantrums and refusing to acknowledge arguments of specific people who show up in the thread with an opposite point of view. 
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 :rolleyes: Well, I can't make you be the kind of nuanced game advocate you claim to be, so... have fun with that.
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If there was no lag, there would be no quitting. Yet he could have quit over other things. Like dye costs or dungeon difficulty or whatever. But instead he quit over lag. So this is, in the end, a topic about lag.
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Irony
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Yes, if only we refuse to address or even acknowledge the problem, nobody will notice it on their own and we will have a great reputation.  :rolleyes:
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I think I'm just hungry. It's been a long day and usually I don't let crap get to me. I'm sorry, Yas. Honestly. I just need a cheeseburger and a large milk shake.
 
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I think I'm just hungry. It's been a long day and usually I don't let crap get to me. I'm sorry, Yas. Honestly. I just need a cheeseburger and a large milk shake.
 
My wife is right. I should not be allowed near a computer when my blood sugar is low.
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I think I'm just hungry. It's been a long day and usually I don't let crap get to me. I'm sorry, Yas. Honestly. I just need a cheeseburger and a large milk shake.
 
My wife is right. I should not be allowed near a computer when my blood sugar is low.
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I think I'm just hungry. It's been a long day and usually I don't let crap get to me. I'm sorry, Yas. Honestly. I just need a cheeseburger and a large milk shake.
 
My wife is right. I should not be allowed near a computer when my blood sugar is low.
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I like how you say it's unplayable yet you give absolutely no suggestion as to why it is unplayable. I've encountered a few bugs, but the game is far from unplayable. In fact most people are able to get all the content completed with very little issue, if any at all. You're comments are nothing short of a teens hyperbolic rage.
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Nope.  You missed the point which lead to a whole slew of a conversation about people missing the point.  They were replying to someone who was saying (not verbatim) how the people who defend the game are bad and they responded with their side regarding the fact that while they are fans of the game and quick to defend, they also are quick to defend the more reasonable things.  Please stop trying to add more arguments where none exist.  This is a pattern with you.  I'm not sure if you're just not reading or if English is your first language or what, and i hope none of that offends, but it's just getting tiresome seeing arguments that you start yourself.  It's like you are perpetually going in circles with people for no reason.
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@yasfan
 
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The reason I end up going in circles with people is because I have to do a lot of repeating myself as I see the same argument coming at me again and again and again by several different people, most of which could have been completely avoided had people simply read long enough to see the last person who had the exact same objection and the last time I responded to it before they hit the post button and chimed in with the exact same argument I've already responded to.
 
Like now, for example. Your main point, I have already addressed and here is the most condensed version of the response that I can come up with that remains productive.
 
 
 
I will reiterate that if you have a suggestion for forum-accepted vocabulary to distinguish between nuanced and considered advocacy for the game and advocacy through vitriol, dismissal, and mocking, I would be delighted to hear it. It certainly could have prevented an entire page or so of trying to stifle appropriate criticism of the latter type of advocacy to provide an equally appropriate defense of the former type of advocacy.
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Generally, there's a vocabulary to refer to people who do that kind of blind knee-jerk defense. They're often referred to as "white knights" or "fanboys" to differentiate them from more considered and nuanced advocates of the game. In the last few weeks, anyone who has used either of those terms on the forums has been criticized for doing so and dismissed simply for having the gall to use a term that would in fact allow us to differentiate easily between a nuanced advocate for the game and someone who just spews some version or another of "love it or leave it". 
 
The fact that some players who advocate for the game are nuanced and considered does not negate the reality that some players who advocate for the game are not. If you have a more nuanced vocabulary to differentiate between them that is in fact going to be tolerated on these forums, I'd love to hear what it is.
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You continue to try to make an argument where there is none, this time quoting things you said in later conversation, after you were told "hey dude, you're wrong.  maybe you should read what we have said."  It is like you lack the ability to admit you are wrong.  Just stop.  It really just makes you look ignorant.
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			Oh come on people 5 pages and the tc didnt respond one time? What is wrong with you? They left, you make comments about who cares yet you continue to care and complain about someone expressing an opinion on forums? News flash thats what forums are for, get off your high horses because your doing the very thing your complaining about, everyone has a right to come here and say they are leaving as much as your complaining right now.
			
				
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Lori, thanks for that very well written and thoughtful post. It had a lot of excellent points and I'd like to address each of them in turn.
 
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Okay, well 'white knight' and 'fanboy' are pejorative name-calling and serve no purpose other than to inflame a conversation, which is inevitably what happens when they're used.  
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I don't find "white knight" to be any more offensive than "Freebot" or "whale" or "casual."
 
"Fanboy" just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, mostly because I am a grown man and if they grow "boys" my size where you come from, well, you live in the Land of Giants.	
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I don't find "white knight" to be any more offensive than "Freebot" or "whale" or "casual."
 
"Fanboy" just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, mostly because I am a grown man and if they grow "boys" my size where you come from, well, you live in the Land of Giants.
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Well he hasn't SPENT any money. Neither have his "six friends" (why is it always six friends? Freebots must travel in packs of seven) ... So no money lost.
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If you have a different non-perjorative vocabulary to describe people who advocate for the game through insults, attacks, and mockery, I would love to hear it. In all seriousness. I want to know what people think we should be calling this kind of behavior that they will accept as accurate, specific, and non-perjorative.
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Why would you need 'vocabulary to describe them'?  If you take an issue with something somebody's said, take an issue with what they've said.  Don't call them names.  "What other names should we call them?"  Don't call them anything.  That doesn't help.
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"Fanboy" just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, mostly because I am a grown man and if they grow "boys" my size where you come from, well, you live in the Land of Giants.
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Never liked the term myself.
 
It just comes over as one of those insults you'd expect to hear from bickering children.
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the joke is almost every day there is a maintenance on the servers that takes many hours...i mean wtf?bigger games with much more servers only need maintenance every 2-3 weeks and that within a shorter time, and here they need 3-4 hours every 2nd day?how bad is that?and they expect ppl to pay money for something so stupid?i feel sorry for these stupid ppl, who actually pay money for this crap...
doesnt look too good for blade and soul, if its nc...	
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I've been lag free for over a week now on my server & i've spent $50 already on the cash shop... So far Carbine deserves every penny. Sucks for the players who are still getting lag, hopefully it is fixed soon. 
 
As for the whole Is Carbine doing a cash grab thing?.... no	
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The lag died down. The game handles ok. There are still some fps issues for high end pcs and of course the maintenance down-time, which is needed. 
 
Sadly the launch was incredibly sloppy and that costed them some players. Hopefully many of them return and get a proper experience this time, but nobody, no fan boy or white knight can change the fact that the F2P launch was terrible and do not expect anyone to forget that.	
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As an EvE Online veteran I am contractually obligated to say "Can I have your stuff?"
 
Note: I don't actually want your stuff.  The lawyers just make me say it.	
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			OMG yasfan, why so defensive? Who is paying you to be here? Why would anyone be so dedicated to talking in a trash thread? Give it up! LOL	
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No... Usually its a girlfriend. Because while women are just over 50% of the internet, they are apparently incapable of making their own forum posts if they have a boyfriend... Or... something...
(Unless of course, they are posting on behalf of their boyfriend. Because boyfriends are also incapable of making their own forums posts... Or whatever...)
 
 
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