145015-game-is-a-ticking-time-bomb

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One word: Captcha.
 
			
				
	Edited October 23, 2015 by xRaymanx	
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The game and bots have gotten out of control. From what i witnessed today there is no way you will get it under control and by some miracle you do, it will be so far down the road that most your players will have left. This game is a ticking time bomb.
 
I know people have brought up the issues with bots but i'm going to leave here what i witnessed today anyway
 
-The first tier of BG's are only bots, and by this i mean there is at least 10-15 bots per BG match. I just finished a match where there were literally 18 bots and 1 real player on each side. 
 
It's only a matter of time before the rest of the BG tiers are as heavily infested. 
 
-Bots are now making guilds and using believable names. The ones in the BG's were obvious since all they do is run laps around the map and only auto attack if someone keeps attacking them. The ones in the open world are harder to differentiate, i came across a guild in the first 2 maps that appeared to be questing together, after stalking them for a bit (my class was a stalker so its ok btw  :P) I noticed they only used auto attacks and they auto followed one person. So bots?
 
 
I had doubts in some of the games faults but planned on sticking through a bit longer to see if my doubts could be proven wrong because this game does have some enjoyable aspects to it. However the bot infestation i witnessed today at the newbie levels was too much. This game will need a miracle to get them under control but i cant continue playing with hopes that miracle will ever be found.
 
 
 
~Good luck to everyone with this game, and good luck to the dev's in finding that miracle 
 	
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lulz they dont work 
 
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/google-killed-the-captcha/	
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 i came across a guild in the first 2 maps that appeared to be questing together, after stalking them for a bit (my class was a stalker so its ok btw  :P) I noticed they only used auto attacks and they auto followed one person. So bots?
 
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One word: Captcha.
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The game and bots have gotten out of control. From what i witnessed today there is no way you will get it under control and by some miracle you do, it will be so far down the road that most your players will have left. This game is a ticking time bomb.
 
 
-Bots are now making guilds and using believable names. The ones in the BG's were obvious since all they do is run laps around the map and only auto attack if someone keeps attacking them. The ones in the open world are harder to differentiate, i came across a guild in the first 2 maps that appeared to be questing together, after stalking them for a bit (my class was a stalker so its ok btw  :P) I noticed they only used auto attacks and they auto followed one person. So bots?
 
~Good luck to everyone with this game, and good luck to the dev's in finding that miracle 
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			Bots don't generally run around in groups in the open world. I assume it was a multiboxer, which is completely complaint with the TOS. I think they only used 'auto attacks' because while multiboxing you kill most mobs in 1-2 casts, do you remember if they all used the same spell at the same time?	
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			u can always report bots by targetting them and typing /report	
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u can always report bots by targetting them and typing /report
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			Yeah I can confirm 100%....Ive made an engineer and Ive got atleast 2 bots farming and stealing my kills all the time its so frustrating :(	
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No. Just No.
Captcha is the most horrendous annoyance you can put on people.
And most Captcha systems can be bypassed by a decently programmed bot anyway.
Just give them no reason to use bots, which means staying away from dodgy sites and goldsellers.
 
A.k.a don't be lazy
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Yeah I can confirm 100%....Ive made an engineer and Ive got atleast 2 bots farming and stealing my kills all the time its so frustrating :(
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They did not exist before f2p 
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Yeah I can confirm 100%....Ive made an engineer and Ive got atleast 2 bots farming and stealing my kills all the time its so frustrating :(
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That is simply not true. They were here since first week of launch, in fact they infested the game so much that by month 3 you could see bots teleporting to resource nodes
 
The fact that they left when the game became less popular does not mean they didn't exist, there just wasn't any profit.
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How did someone steal your kills? Mobs in Wildstar are open tag.
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You are quitting because of bots?Ok.
 
Just for your information, bots in games is an ongoing battle.
You mitigate them, they create new code, repeat.
 
Welcome to a online game.	
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That is simply not true. They were here since first week of launch, in fact they infested the game so much that by month 3 you could see bots teleporting to resource nodes
 
The fact that they left when the game became less popular does not mean they didn't exist, there just wasn't any profit.
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You are quitting because of bots?
Ok.
 
Just for your information, bots in games is an ongoing battle.
You mitigate them, they create new code, repeat.
 
Welcome to a online game.
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You are quitting because of bots?
Ok.
 
Just for your information, bots in games is an ongoing battle.
You mitigate them, they create new code, repeat.
 
Welcome to a online game.
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Funny I haven't noticed rampant botting in a lot of the other games that I've played (MMO's included). But by all means, keep giving Carbine a free pass on this. It was a huge issue that plagued the game during P2P and I really can't believe it's happening again. It's frustrating.
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Funny I haven't noticed rampant botting in a lot of the other games that I've played (MMO's included). But by all means, keep giving Carbine a free pass on this. It was a huge issue that plagued the game during P2P and I really can't believe it's happening again. It's frustrating.
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just type gold buy and the mmo you played on google, count how many "services" you can find for it ;). Just because you didn't see them in the game when you played doesn't mean they don't exist.
 
The only games that are bot free are the ones where you simply can't trade with other players, like Hearthstone.
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Not even Hearthsone or HoS are bot free. Anyway yes, bots are a problem but isn't something that can be fixed from one day to another.
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Funny I haven't noticed rampant botting in a lot of the other games that I've played (MMO's included). But by all means, keep giving Carbine a free pass on this. It was a huge issue that plagued the game during P2P and I really can't believe it's happening again. It's frustrating.
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Funny I haven't noticed rampant botting in a lot of the other games that I've played (MMO's included). But by all means, keep giving Carbine a free pass on this. It was a huge issue that plagued the game during P2P and I really can't believe it's happening again. It's frustrating.
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just type gold buy and the mmo you played on google, count how many "services" you can find for it ;). Just because you didn't see them in the game when you played doesn't mean they don't exist.
 
The only games that are bot free are the ones where you simply can't trade with other players, like Hearthstone.
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This is some nonsense right here. The number of "services" that a Google search yields has nearly no correlation at all to the amount of bots or gold farmers that would exist in a game. Competent developers (dealing with larger player bases even) have figured out ways to mitigate the flood. There is no reason Carbine should get a pass for not doing anything about it because "bots/gold farmers might exist in other games because their services show up in a Google search so it's ok if they're in this game ruining BG's and chat".
 
Stop it.
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What do you mean there is no correlation? The fact that this is basically an industry is proof enough that there are talented people that will do everything they can to offer better services in mmorpg's that the current owners can't. In this case it's gold,resources,characters even. Don't outright ignore that those exist.
 
They did try to stop the bots, like tex said, they did it in a way that sadly hindered us as well, to be perfectly honest, i'm not sure what they can even do to stop botting since the game not only allows addons but has no real restriction on anything in-game (apart from level restriction which is easily overcome).
 
There is no magic code that will stop them, because any code they implement will just be broken by whoever is behind the bots, this would require a constant change of code.
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I can tell you what they can do to stop the botting. Have a chat with ArenaNet or Bilzzard, see how they did it. They seem to have this "magic code" you're talking about. I've never once been in a BG, or sPvP match where I was the only human player. In Wildstar? Happens all the time.
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Only thing Blizzard does to bots is run automated systems against them. That's it.
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Bots are the reason we have level-locked resource nodes. They would take level 3 toons into Malgrave and swarm every resource node in the zone for days. Eventually, the "solution" was to make life harder for legitimate players.
 
We also had the scum-kings at HonorBuddy selling the same kinds of hacks here that made them Public Enemy Number One at Blizzard.
 
But as I said elsewhere, these are gold farmers using basic scripts to "earn money" that they hope to sell back to unscrupulous players. Sadly, Oli's advice to just not use those services will fall on the deaf ears of the losers who feel the need to avail themselves of such tactics. If these were "real players" running bot-scripting in battlegrounds, they would have actual names, not crap like NPUHIJONFBITUFOA and jlhaihdtrhlcnayr.
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Simply put it will take time. I haven't actually seen or heard from any bots like the initial launch and the description you give of the open world comes off as a multi-boxer(which i have seen and known some people to do)
The best thing you can do is report the people you suspect of being a bot and Carbine will investigate it from that point onward. however also keep in mind you may not see immediate bans/suspensions on reported characters as they will at times try to get more information on how said botting is being done to prevent further instances of similar nature/method.
 
Hang in there!	
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I'm not saying this excuses the fact that bots and multi-boxing happens, but I can remember many, many matches in WoW where literally half your team was a multi-boxer running rampant from area to area, wrecking anyone they came across in a synchronized attack of "Ohgodwtfisthis"...
 
So, yeah, not giving it a pass here, but it does happen elsewhere. While I agree that botters and multi-boxers like this should be banned forevahs...the game is free now. They can just make more accounts.	
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			Bots are what made me leave the game in the first place. After a few months, the BG's were mainly afk'ers and bots.  The bots were smart enough to occasionally capture moody masks.  However, they're back and they're not hard to spot if you've had previous experience.	
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Funny I haven't noticed rampant botting in a lot of the other games that I've played (MMO's included). But by all means, keep giving Carbine a free pass on this. It was a huge issue that plagued the game during P2P and I really can't believe it's happening again. It's frustrating.
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They did not exist before f2p 
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Just my thoughts with the thread title in mind....
 
			
				
	Edited October 23, 2015 by Bacon_21	
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(unpopular opinion time)
 
I like bots.  They're mostly terrible players, and they fill up empty worlds.  I've just started playing and maybe I'll learn why I wouldn't like bots in this game, but they just don't bother me at all.	
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(unpopular opinion time)
 
I like bots.  They're mostly terrible players, and they fill up empty worlds.  I've just started playing and maybe I'll learn why I wouldn't like bots in this game, but they just don't bother me at all.
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(unpopular opinion time)
 
I like bots.  They're mostly terrible players, and they fill up empty worlds.  I've just started playing and maybe I'll learn why I wouldn't like bots in this game, but they just don't bother me at all.
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I and many others have reported the bots in the lower tier bgs and a week in they are still there the same names
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