128947-freeing-up-a-guild-name

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Hello there!This is a question topic towards Carbine Stuff, I have created a ticket today with a question if it is possible to ask to free up a guild-name that has been long taken but is probably inactive for at least a year? We would like to create a new guild with a cool name but it is taken, and would hate to choose another one.I know this stuff is a sensitive topic, but if a guild has been inactive for a very very long time, there should be no harm in deleting it right? For the good!So anyway I got answer to my ticket which was to create this forum post for the devs because they can't answer that question.We would be super happy if you could help with this please Carbine! Thank you!
 
More information about this topic can be found in ticket #1222535Best Regards,HaZmY
			
				
	Edited July 30, 2015 by HaZmY	
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			 Freeing up names because maybe their non active is the same thing as forcing name changes of characters on inactive accounts just for the sake of taking their names.. those names belong to the players that created them even if they don't play anymore especially since their already payed for. Besides there is no guarantee that just because a guild may not be active the owners of that guild aren't playing. I currently hold my guild name even if im not currently using it at the moment other than a bank for my toons. I don't see carbine screwing over players in my situation for the sake of a cool name that someone else wants im sure there are plenty of players like myself that still play but are using their guild for other stuff. The best bet for you is to come up with a name that hasn't been taken yet. The only mmo i've ever seen force this type of change was DCUO and the accounts had to be over 2 years inactive.	
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 Besides there is no guarantee that just because a guild may not be active the owners of that guild aren't playing. I currently hold my guild name even if im not currently using it at the moment other than a bank for my toons.
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I do believe the poster would not suggest that the two examples above of "active but inactive" guild accounts should be on a reset list. From a data capacity point of view a wipe of old data is always a good thing. A set amount of time of "total inactivity' before a reset would not be asking to much. After all if a paying sub is currently required to create a guild and after F2P by all current accounts its part of signature service, then it implies that a given cost is associated with maintaining a guild name, hence if you not paying then why should it be kept. Time period is another issue
 
I feel that keeping your toons and names is a different story but, they must be kept for a hopeful return!!!
			
				
	Edited July 31, 2015 by LordJJag	
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I have to agree, do not touch things like character names, but when a guild is considered "gone":
 
No active member login for let's say over 6 months
No response from guild leader through forums/messages
Then I would agree that freeing up the guild name should be possible.
This allows names to live on and can often lead to an active boost if said guild name had a good reputation and the values they represented are continued.
But I agree with LordJJag, characters is a completely different thing.	
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Of course I do not mean to steal it from anyone as you mention. I very well know how sensitive this Topic is. I would be pissed if my character names would be taken etc.BUT
My post is mainly about asking to free up one name IF it has been inactive for a very very long time, Since we all know how MMORPG's work a lot of names are taken at the very beginning like World of Warcraft had names taken for 10 years and someone never ever logged in with it. Which i don't know a bit frustrating I think and not fair. But for character names okay..I agree, people lock down names just to get that name later. 
We know that if you are not going to be a subscriber you won't be able to have more than...3 characters I think...so If someone had 6 characters but will never return to the game...characters have no espiration date? So that name will never ever free up? 
Guild name is a different thing In my opinion like it is actual responsibility and it is a social group. And if It has been DEAD for the last year, the owner shouldn't be surprised if it will be deleted or something. I think that is completely fair. 
So by INACTIVE and DEAD I don't mean your guilds guys where you keep your alts and you ACTUALY use it, like people using a guild for banking etc. That is not inactive nor dead. By DEAD I mean a guild where NOONE EVER logged in in the last at least 6 months -> That means Dead 
Also it is said that only Subbed people will be able to create a guild yes, Well if this guild is as dead as I think, noone is paying sub in it nor do they maintain the guild, probably noone cares about it. 
So in a way Guild creating is only allowed if you have a subscription well I would feel it as a contradiction that New F2P players can't create a guild, but someone who created a guild at launch but never ever looked at it in the last 1 year, can keep his old one. Well but that's just me.I am not asking for a system or anything. I am just asking for a favour if it is possible as an old player in Wildstar this one time.Both of you at the first comments, I think misunderstood me - I wouldn't like to get a guild like yours away since you guys are still using it. I meant a guild where nobody ever logged in in the past 6 months at least.The whole point of this is that the Guild Name we would like to get freed is a very specific Wildstar-themed Guild name, and those are rare to be honest. I would prefer using it instead of thinking about another like Knights of Hello Kitty or whatever.
			
				
	Edited July 31, 2015 by HaZmY	
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I do understand that you don't want the guild itself but the name.  I was simply trying to reiterate the previous comment stating that you don't really know who is in a guild.  I don't display any hologram associations, titles, or anything on my alts.  I rarely display them on my main.  So unless you ask someone you don't really know what guild they are in, therefore you wouldn't necessarily know whether or not anyone actually uses the guild or not.  Unless of course this name you seek is your own dead guild.  Then in that case if you were an officer rank you could initiate a /gvote to have the inactive leader kicked and whoever to replace them.  
I also understand the importance of the occasional wipe of unused stuff.  The game has barely been out for a year, and personally I don't think it's time to start house cleaning.  I have a feeling many people who haven't returned yet will return when the F2P launches.  I guess what I'm getting at is that no matter how cool your guild name is, I'm sure you could come up with something equally if not 20% more cool than what you currently have in mind.  That or wait.  But I'm not a dev, what do I know?   	
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			I totally agree, that is why I asked for a DeV help, they can check activity within a guild. But I have an opposite opinion about people coming back, what you mentioned. I mean It's just if someone leaves a game and doesn't look back at all, he shouldn't expect and probably won't expect to still has his guild which is going to be allowed only to Subscribed people? That makes no sense I think.I am happy if someone comes back of course, but a guild is a guild - it is supposed to be a social or at least financial group. But if it's completely unused - noone logs in for a long time - there are other mmo's where they actually delete the guild if it is super inactive. I mean I know that it is a nice thing too keep things for people but you can't keep all the trash just to be nice all the time.Well okay, I admit I am a bit try-hard since I want that name, but I don't think my point is totally absurd.	
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I do understand that you don't want the guild itself but the name. I was simply trying to reiterate the previous comment stating that you don't really know who is in a guild. I don't display any hologram associations, titles, or anything on my alts. I rarely display them on my main. So unless you ask someone you don't really know what guild they are in, therefore you wouldn't necessarily know whether or not anyone actually uses the guild or not. Unless of course this name you seek is your own dead guild. Then in that case if you were an officer rank you could initiate a /gvote to have the inactive leader kicked and whoever to replace them. I also understand the importance of the occasional wipe of unused stuff. The game has barely been out for a year, and personally I don't think it's time to start house cleaning. I have a feeling many people who haven't returned yet will return when the F2P launches. I guess what I'm getting at is that no matter how cool your guild name is, I'm sure you could come up with something equally if not 20% more cool than what you currently have in mind. That or wait. But I'm not a dev, what do I know?
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Anyone who has subbed for any length of time will have loyalty points when they come back, so I don't know how all that's going to work come F2P launch (whether or not guild leaders maintain X amount of loyalty points, etc).  
 
I do agree that a guild is supposed to be a social entity.  (see what I did there?   :P )  
I do also agree that freeing names at this point is premature.  Perhaps they'll auction off old guild names in the cash shop?  I doubt it, but you never know!     	
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			I still go with my own opinion that IF someone leaves the game after creating a guild, without any care to disband that guild or do anything with it, and then MAYBE he returns after a year, imho the last thing he will care about is the guild. He never cared about it at the first place.But since I am alone with this opinion it seems, I bow before the community then and wait to see if I get help or not.
			
				
	Edited July 31, 2015 by HaZmY	
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A lot of people rage quit because of bugs and lack of technical support shortly after the game launched.  In fact my entire guild rage quit within 2 days of each other because of Vet Crimelords.  I just think that if the few leaders do come back to the game they're going to have a hard enough time re-establishing their guild they'll probably just disband it at that point anyway.  But you really never know.  
I do wish you luck in getting your name.  (unless of course the name you seek is my guild.  muahahahaha)    I just don't hold much hope for right now.  
Actually if it was my guild's name I'd accept a name change.  We don't have any particular attachment to it.  
			
				
	Edited July 31, 2015 by Rhaen	
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No to wipes! Either toon names or guilds names! There is no difference between toon names and guild names.
 
I too have a guild that I have been holding on to for a year or more. At some point I will reactivate it but in the mean time I see no reason for anyone to take my guild/toon name because I haven't played it for a year. I am here and I've been here the entire time.
 
There are lots of people that created 50 toons and maybe even guilds to go with them before the server merge happened and yes, they still play. Are they playing all 50 toons? Maybe *shrugs*
 
I agree that a year is too soon to consider name wipes.
 
TL:DR Get off your duff and find your own guild name. I don't really care if you think it's cool and you want it and you have set some  arbitrary time frame that you believe is 'too long' for someone to have the name you want.	
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			We have chosen another name so we avoid all the hassle!	
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I hope your Guild name is just as cool as the one you wanted Hazmy. Sometimes the grass isn't greener on the other side and odds are if its too green, it is has too much crap on it anyway.
 
Moving forward your idea still has merit that can be used in another way, a gold sink. A Guild needs to be registered, pay taxes and have a license to operate, all of which can only be renewed every 6months. The rego is a one off payment, the tax is progressive based upon turnover and/or player count and the license, renewable every month but with a limit of forward payment maxing at 6months. The license fee, again flat but higher then rego cost.	
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