120805-faction-transfers

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Pls.
 
Or mixed raids.
 
 	
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Well I would also like to see fraction transfer, but it will just kill some aspects of game or to put it differently the game is not ready for that and will need a lot of changes (cross fraction raids/dungs/adv/bgs/etc...), as medium term effect would be same as with server transfer aka. one fraction will disappear.
Essentially it will be much simpler and more effective to add lore fragment that put aside differences between dom and ex to fight along with strain.
I do not see any reasons why fraction system was putted to the wildstar in the first place and only thing I find "logical" in that area is to mimic WoW, the only difference is that WoW have population large enough to support dual fraction system, while any game that will only try to mimic WoW will not (and more I am playing WS, the more I came to conclusion, it is just modern, little harder,  copy of WoW).	
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Yes please !
 
Mix it ! Stop the 2 faction limit !	
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			Nice idea Byona, i totally agree.	
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			Nice idea Byona, I totally agree!	
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Nice idea Byona, i totally agree.
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Nice idea Byona, i totally agree.
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I agree with you Razhork 
 
Thank you 
 
You're welcome 
 
Wait... Who are you? 
 
I'm Razhork
 
But I'm Razhork 
 
no you scum 
 
*cupcake* you m8 
 
no *cupcake* you
 
what you say about my momma 
 
take it back 
 
how about no 
 
ok	
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Nice idea Byona, i totally agree.
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Byonaa, on 09 Jan 2015 - 3:42 PM, said:
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Nice idea Byona, i totally agree.
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Nice idea Byona, i totally agree.
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its needed.  
December hurt so bad members wise its impossible to do proper progression 	
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Pls.
 
Or mixed raids.
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			Nice idea Byona, i totally agree.	
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Free faction transfer from Exile to Domi till population balance is achieved. Then open it up as a paid service both directions
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Pls.
 
Or mixed raids.
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Ideas for compromise and or ways this can be implemented (that will fall on deaf ears or be picked apart):
 
  - Cross-faction mail (How many of you have gotten that awesome housing item on your Exile character that your Dommie character would really love to have)
 
  - Have an in game survey, or email players and ask them why they don't roll or play their Dommie characters, then listen to them and do something about it.
 
  - Find a Lore appropriate reason to open up all races to both factions, you can hold a contest let the community come up with something and vote on their favorite (within reason, of course)
 
  - All races, all classes. This can only help at this point.
 
  - At some point in the story have each faction do something so messed up that your character has the option to join the other faction if they choose. (Each of the factions has members at it's head that this wouldn't be too hard to believe)
    As an added juicy bonus, perhaps major characters to each faction will defect to the other, bringing the players that choose to leave with them.	
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Free faction transfer from Exile to Domi till population balance is achieved. Then open it up as a paid service both directions
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			My reason for wanting faction transfer is because when one faction has absolutely 0 guilds you are interested in (only casual guilds remain in Dominion EU in my case), you have no choice but to play casually/quit/reroll, when there is a hardcore guild right in the corner at the exile sides wanting me to join them. I've seen so many of my hardcore friends already quit the game for this reason, but i care about Wildstar more so its harder for me to leave just yet.	
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I love the idea of factions as it presents some uniqueness to the game. Such as various characters, storyline, races, and all that nonsense, but that's where it should end. All other aspects of the game should be cross-faction. Even PvP. While it does make sense that you would help your own faction in a PvP match, there isn't really lore or any good reason that BGs can't be 3 Dom 7 Exile vs 4 Exile 6 Dom. Obviously your team would still be friendly to you while the opposing team would be hostile. This would make open-world PvP a problem but there's only PvE servers right now anyway. 
The same goes for raiding. Wanting to play a 9ft robot shouldn't preclude you from being able to clear GA or DS with bunny-people if you so desire. The faction vs faction element and its WoW-esque restrictions should remain part of WoW. CRB, you reinvented the wheel so many times I'm surprised that with factions you used the Blizz schematic. 	
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Pls.
 
Or mixed raids.
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Honestly if this ever happen it would be in a drop.
 
And they would call it a major feature. Leaving out new content for people who has been grinding the current content for months.
 
Not that I agree with it, but this will drain a lot of man power	
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I will forever advocate Rift's way of handling it: get 'rid' of factions by making the player characters smarter than the Factions themselves and realize that the faction conflict needs to be put on a side because there are worse things out there (like the Strain). We already have the Circle Of Galactic Scientists as an in-universe and canonical neutral side that accepts members of any faction, and that is also used to give both the Dominion and the Exiles their Adventures. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to have another similar organization that has more of a military goal to it. Or use the COGs themselves.
 
The good thing about that idea is that it still allows the 'purists' and people who think that the Faction Divide Must Mean Something! the possibility of still being absolute loyalists to their side if they really want that. I'd even say we could add a "Only my faction" toggle on the dungeon finder just for them, if that's something that worries them.	
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			Mixed raids sounds cool. Also being able to fight other dominions in PvP might help queues etc. 	
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Oh, please Please PLEASE!!
 
I would so love to bring my Chua into Exile faction, yep!  It was rather fun to change factions between "good" and "evil" in Everquest 2, I'd love to do the same here.	
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My Exile Medic is currently level 26.. stop torturing me and let me transfer my fully legendary geared Stalker :(
 
Not looking forward to amp/ability farm QQ.	
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			I would imagine that Faction transfers are in the pipeline, but the amount of work it would take to make them possible would be quite a lot. Bottom line, even if they were pushing for this ASAP, it would not be out for a good long while.	
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We all saw how that helped PvP servers.
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			 Nice idea Byona, i totally agree.	
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Nice idea Byona, i totally agree.
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			Nice idea Byona, i totally agree.	
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			Nice idea Byona, I totally agree.	
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Nice idea Byona, I totally agree.
 
 
 
 
 
btw: I think the system of Rift would be better, crossfaction raiding and shit	
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Nice idea Byona, I totally agree.
 
btw: I think the system of Rift would be better, crossfaction raiding and shit
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			so this is a troll post....... right?	
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My reason for wanting faction transfer is because when one faction has absolutely 0 guilds you are interested in (only casual guilds remain in Dominion EU in my case), you have no choice but to play casually/quit/reroll, when there is a hardcore guild right in the corner at the exile sides wanting me to join them. I've seen so many of my hardcore friends already quit the game for this reason, but i care about Wildstar more so its harder for me to leave just yet.
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did you learn nothing from your time in Rift?
Wildstar may be in a worse position than Rift was. Allowing the factions to play together was a big help in Rift but it only delayed the inevitable
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			Ah I see, I thought it was weird seeing the unanimous, "What a great idea" responses lol	
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did you learn nothing from your time in Rift?
Wildstar may be in a worse position than Rift was. Allowing the factions to play together was a big help in Rift but it only delayed the inevitable
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did you learn nothing from your time in Rift?
Wildstar may be in a worse position than Rift was. Allowing the factions to play together was a big help in Rift but it only delayed the inevitable
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While Faction transfers would be nice I'd rather they scrapped the idea of Factions completely at least later in the game. As I'm the type of person who has to collect all the available Lore, and enjoys it a lot, I'd love to be able to collect it all on each of my characters. Sure that's a lot of effort and probably rather pointless but collecting everything and completing the game with 100% is one of the things I enjoy about gaming in general.
 
I'd also love to be able to explore the areas belonging to the opposing faction without having to sneak through the Capital Cities to do it. I managed to get into Galeras with one of my Chua but I really wanted to get to Celestion (my fave Exile zone) and the only way to get there, that I'm aware of, is by crossing Thayd. No way a Lv30 Chua is getting through there without getting killed especially on the PvE server.
 
There was also one of the quests in Whitevale where an Aurin contacted me when I was playing my Chua (a SIM-Core quest I think, the one in the middle of the Pell lake) and he seemed perfectly friendly towards me so it makes it seem like not all Exiles and Dominion characters hate each other. Same with the random Exile NPC, also in Whitevale, who happily asked my Chua if I had any Settler friends that could give him a hand. Not to mention you save members of the opposite Faction during several quests. Things like this make me feel that Faction transfers could be a future possibility. Fingers crossed.	
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			Byonaa I love your new signature. 	
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Just as a quick note, since I brought it up elsewhere.  Enable guild transfers for free and make sure that you can transfer between factions.  Enable the following transfers:
 
-Until the balance of the faction/server is worse than 40%/60%, transfers can occur both ways.
 
-Once it drops below that level, transfers can only go one way.
 
Hence, until the population goes 40/60 in either direction, transfers for players and guilds (separately, so that not everyone has to go) may happen either way between the PVP and PVE servers, and that you may transfer yourself (and guild) between factions on either of those server so long as the populations are likewise close.
 
As soon as the PVP server, for example, drops below that threshold, (below 40% population) the transfers to the PVE server stop.  If, on any server, the Dominion for example, drops below that 40/60 threshold, you can no longer transfer to Exiles.
 
Of course, for server populations, if a lower threshold is deemed necessary (if PVP servers are assumed to always be lower population), it can be lowered.  The faction should probably hover near that, though.
 
That might work, or might not.  Maybe people who can't transfer will quit instead.  However, it might make it easier to transfer, especially if players can take their guilds, and that might revitalize the servers.
 
I still advocate the conclusions I reached here to make sure people want to end up on the servers they want to be on, because their servers will provide them with world content that supports their chosen playstyle.	
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Byonaa I love your new signature. 
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			Please make it happen for atleast drop 5.	
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			Nice idea Byona, I totally agree!	
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			Nice idea Byona, I totally agree!	
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Hey Byona, I still totally agree !
 
 
No Dev response yet ? sad.....
 
 
 
*push*	
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So, if you transferred faction, would happen with:
 overall faction Reputation,
 individual Zone Reputations,
 opened merchants due to those zone reputations,
 faction-specific quest chains in progress (especially the attunement quest chain),
 faction-specific housing plugins (think the zone portals),
etc?	
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Honestly I don't care how. Just make something, cuz dominion on EU side looks like EU PvP servers 1 week after megaservers. Actually the only thing that keeps dominion from falling apart is luck of fraction transfer future.
 
Also we don't need fraction transfer. Just make content after lvl 25-30 cross-fraction. Storyline is same anyway, you wanna introduce BGs within fraction anyway (and PvP is only strong reason to have 2 fractions anyway). Currently each day I wanna do R12 there is non dominion in the area and exiles have 1-st stage finished after 10min max. And I still need bosses, that I have killed long time ago for the achievement...
So why can't we have just one R12 event, why can't we have cross fraction dungs/adventures/raids, BGs teams, arena teams, etc. Dual fraction system in WS is just not working and sooner or later dominion population (at least) on EU side will start to bleed, the question is how players will behave in that situation. Currently we are (still) fine, but we are close to the edge, when ppl will be forced to simply abandon game or make an exile alt and I believe many that like this game, will just abandon it, because creating and gearing new character is just painful process.	
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So, if you transferred faction, would happen with:
overall faction Reputation,
individual Zone Reputations,
opened merchants due to those zone reputations,
faction-specific quest chains in progress (especially the attunement quest chain),
faction-specific housing plugins (think the zone portals),
etc?
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			I will be happy with being able to send mail between factions :)	
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			 Byona,	
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			Faction transfer is kinda weird, but I'll support 100% mixed group content. It has worked for other games. Keeps dungeons much more active without disturbing too much of the setting.	
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Faction transfer is kinda weird, but I'll support 100% mixed group content. It has worked for other games. Keeps dungeons much more active without disturbing too much of the setting.
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Free transfer exile to dominion till balance is 50% + or - 5%.
 
No dominion to exile	
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Of course dominion will fall apart, if free transfers will be introduced, but the game has nothing to sustain dual fraction system as it is and most of all there is no good reason to have dual fraction system. The only reason to put dual fraction system was to mimic WoW and steal some former WoW players, but it didn't work...
Besides dominion will fall apart anyway sooner or later. Many of my domi friends are/were creating Exile alts, some have already re-rolled. It is a matter of time when enough players will change fraction, that remaining will have to make a choice: "Do I wanna make another toon or rather I stop playing game" - hopefully by that time we will have either free/paid fraction transfer or we will have cross fraction game, that will make multi fraction system irrelevant anyway.
 
Many players have abandoned game, because they couldn't play on PvP servers, many players will abandon game, if they will not ba able to play their desired fraction, but alternative is that many more players would/will leave us.	
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I just think that the faction system is just so standard that everybody does it, even games that arent in direct competition with WoW. EVE online has a faction system BUT they did it the right way. You pick what faction you start out with but it is entirely up to you if you want to actually align yourself with one of the other two factions.
 
There have been a few posts (from myself included) where we just suggested that they allow dominion and exile to do dungeons and raids together.  That would be a relatively easier change instead of reworking the whole game to be factionless i think.  A questchain can be easily added that explains this on the lore side.  Other games with factions that hate each other have gone from all out war with each other to cooperating to defeat a greater evil.  For PVP they can just call it Wargames and change some wording around around so that all the PVP fits that theme.	
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