58:39 (timestamp)

58:39 or 58:50, nicknamed "the forbidden timestamp" initally, is the timestamp on a TomaNeko stream, specifically, "Playing Pokepark Wii [1]", where Toma threw Vanta a curveball, and the first installment of the 58:39 franchise.
== History ==
=== Pre-Timestamp ===
==== Pre-Stream ====
On June 22, 2024, TomaNeko started a stream called "Doode Requests & QNA". The "Doode" was supposed to be "Doodle". Nine minutes into the stream, Vanta said "oh n uhhh why pants (on ur persona/fursona) tho. "those" types of fursonas exist yk (iykyk) WAIT MELODY AND YOU ARE BOTH TRANSSS". TomaNeko saw the message (him saying pants was partially audible) and only said the Melody part out loud. Vanta also told Toma the origin of their name, which also made Toma utter their name for the first time. 3 weeks later, Vanta drew Toma's fursona. They had plans on drawing both the pants and the pantsless version, but in their opinion the pants looked kind of weird, so they scrapped the pants version and kept the pantsless version.
==== Mid-Stream ====
A day later (on 7/19/24), they were about to post the fanart when suddenly they saw said Pokepark stream. They went into it, throughout the stream, Vanta told Toma 4 times (for whatever reason) that they refuse to draw Toma with pants for two reasons: One, because they think the fur covers everything, and two, since the pants looked weird in their art style and opinion. 56 minutes into the stream they also said that "MONKEY D FREAKY" was aware of them for some reason.
=== During the timestamp ===
During this timestamp, Toma said, and I quote, "Vanta- Okay, I keep getting comments from Vanta saying they don't wanna draw Toma with pants. Uh, as long as you don't draw him, you know, 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 of course, you could draw him without pants, sorta like how Winnie the Pooh is, you know. I- I- I really don't mind it, hehe. I just put sweatpants on him because when it's, you know, the colder weather I usually just, um, I usually just wear sweatpants, and when I made Toma, I used to wear hoodies more, that's why he has a, uh, hoodie. uhm... But I do wear jackets a good bit when it's like colder, so I think it's- it's still accurate. But yeah, if you want to... if it's like, if Vanta, if- if your art style demands that you don't draw, uh, Toma with pants, make sure it ain't 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂, just- just draw him like Winnie the Pooh.". He basically killed two birds with one stone by answering both the "don't want to draw pants on Toma" thing and possibly the "why pants" thing from the aforementioned previous stream.
=== Post-stream, post-timestamp ===
After the stream ended, Vanta sent a Peter Griffin meme to Exder where it tells him to not go to said timestamp of said stream. And of course, with his trolly antics, he does it anyway.
== Trivia ==
* This confirms that Toma doesn't care if his fursona is depicted without pants, as long as it's not 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂.
* Vanta's name was uttered 3 times in total during this timestamp, 1 before the timestamp, 1 before the Pokepark stream, and countless times after the timestamp.
* Vanta didn't expect this. Vanta also lost it.
* Speaking of them, they made a clip out of it.
Category:Unexpected events
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