116331-can-we-maybe-eliminate-some-of-the-dumb-stuff-inside-of-boomboxes

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i just recieved a "colorful aurin table" from my boom box...
now, i'm an ARCHITECT, i have 4 of those exact tables in my crate.
why is this something i want? i cant even vendor this crap, its 12silver.
 
why is something that is both time gated and hard to obtain, giving such undesireable prizes?
its anti-fun.	
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As someone who opened over 130 of them already I'd be pretty pissed if they NOW decide to clear the garbage of all still existing ones..
Deal with it IMO. We all had to.
Boom-Boxes are clearly designed to be mostly useless with a slim chance of unicorns. So people keep playing for just another day. Or 30.	
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			I think they should fix lottery so that theres no small amounts of money or not at all to be won. So when you win (every time) you win big! You get me!?	
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			Do you get where we're goin with this Sasuga?	
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Ah yeah, That's a good idea. Make it so only the rare stuff drops from Boomboxes.
 
Then everyone will be all "OMFG I just got *another* Luminous Equivar mount. Carbine buff the Boomboxes NAO!!!".	
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Seriously people, we are getting stuff for FREE from Carbine. Stop complaining about it and being so ungrateful.
 
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			Think there's some lovely new junk in the boom box's actually. 	
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They were not forced to give you free stuff.
But they gave you free stuff, and people complaing because free stuff aint good enough.
 
Sense.	
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I will never understand people, I swear.
 
"I was forced to deal with this unpleasant garbage. And since I dealt with it, now all those that follow me must also deal with it."
 
We were given 30 boom boxes as compensation for the mega servers going down. So, for the vast majority of people, their compensation is basically "lol" or "ughhh". It's a simple reminder of the RNG nonsense that has already driven thousands of players away from this otherwise great game.
 
Now, I'm not saying that we should all get Equivars every boombox. But we can EASILY raise the floor of the boomboxes. Remember that these are going to be used for the forseeable future of Wildstar. Stop being grumpy old men, yelling about children on your yard, or telling tales of trecking to school in the snow uphill both ways. Some simple changes that I think would go a long way towards improving the compensation aspect of BBs:
All flasks should be equivalent to the flasks sold by the renown vendor, but tradeable and stackable. 
All decor should be unique to boom boxes, not easily acquired stuff (probably the hardest change)
Food buffs that persist through death, tradeable
More costumes!
Elder Gem should be more than ONE SINGLE EG. That is honestly the silliest thing I can even imagine. ONE ELDER GEM ARE YOU KIDDING
I don't know. Stop being bitter about your poor boom boxes and help improve them for future players.	
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I will never understand people, I swear.
 
"I was forced to deal with this unpleasant garbage. And since I dealt with it, now all those that follow me must also deal with it."
 
We were given 30 boom boxes as compensation for the mega servers going down. So, for the vast majority of people, their compensation is basically "lol" or "ughhh". It's a simple reminder of the RNG nonsense that has already driven thousands of players away from this otherwise great game.
 
Now, I'm not saying that we should all get Equivars every boombox. But we can EASILY raise the floor of the boomboxes. Remember that these are going to be used for the forseeable future of Wildstar. Stop being grumpy old men, yelling about children on your yard, or telling tales of trecking to school in the snow uphill both ways. Some simple changes that I think would go a long way towards improving the compensation aspect of BBs:
All flasks should be equivalent to the flasks sold by the renown vendor, but tradeable and stackable. 
All decor should be unique to boom boxes, not easily acquired stuff (probably the hardest change)
Food buffs that persist through death, tradeable
More costumes!
Elder Gem should be more than ONE SINGLE EG. That is honestly the silliest thing I can even imagine. ONE ELDER GEM ARE YOU KIDDING
I don't know. Stop being bitter about your poor boom boxes and help improve them for future players.
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As someone who opened over 130 of them already I'd be pretty pissed if they NOW decide to clear the garbage of all still existing ones..
Deal with it IMO. We all had to.
Boom-Boxes are clearly designed to be mostly useless with a slim chance of unicorns. So people keep playing for just another day. Or 30.
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Or.... stop wanting a week in paradise when someone offers you a night on the town.
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I've got this friend. I've known him a long time. He would call me up and say "Hey man, we're going to Atlantic City [or some other typical night life oriented location]. First round is on me!". We'd go, and when we arrived, we'd be given a free round of Soco Lime provided by the hotel we stayed at. This friend would then claim that this counted as his first round, because he organized the trip. The actual first round at a place like that was often several hundred dollars.
 
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Wish I could give you more likes.
 
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Oh for pity's sake. If you feel the need to come on here and crow about how Boom Box are "free stuff!", pick a corner of your living room and instead of throwing it away, pile up all the junk mail you get for the next month. It's 'free stuff' too, so you should be thrilled.
 
Boom Boxes are a promotional tool (just like your growing heap of junk mail) and like any form of advertising, the effectiveness can be improved. Giving them out 30 at a time was pretty blatant as a way of encouraging folks to subscribe just a little bit longer to clean them all out, but if Carbine wants that to be a compelling argument that might tip the balance for someone on the cusp then -- even if the ultra rare results stay the same -- the average rewards can and probably should come up bit.	
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Haha thanks. I swear the arguments of "it totally sucks but I had to play through it so you should too" are all 14 year olds just saying what they think a hardcore gamer would say. 
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Hi folks,
 
While we love constructive discussion I do have to remind you all that these forums are not the place for personal insults. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinion, and we're not all going to agree, that's one way of obtaining feedback from players and that's really important for us but it does have to remain constructive and polite. 
 
Thank you.
- Team WildStar 	
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			I personally don't mind the current system. I've opened over 80 boomboxes or so and the only "rare" items I ever got were raidin' pants and raidin' gloves. I actually like the fact that the cool stuff is rare, it makes it so worth it when you finally get it. As well as makes you stand out. It's the little things...	
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I personally don't mind the current system. I've opened over 80 boomboxes or so and the only "rare" items I ever got were raidin' pants and raidin' gloves. I actually like the fact that the cool stuff is rare, it makes it so worth it when you finally get it. As well as makes you stand out. It's the little things...
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People weren't suggesting an increase in the droprate for the rare items.  Just bringing up the loot floor a bit so you don't open 30 boxes and get nothing but useless crafting materials, or potions that only last 10 minutes XD
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Worst argument I've ever heard. So because the rewards have always been crap they should stay crap? A flawed design should stay a flawed design because you had to play through it? How do the 130 you already opened have any bearing on the ones you will open in the future? Wouldn't you be happier if the ones you opened from here on out rewarded something useful more often than not?
 
Extremely selfish and short sighted argument on your part.
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I'm totally fine with the Warpig and Equivar rewards being from the first round of boom boxes only. 
 
As long as Boombox Reloaded: The Boomboxening has some other unique mounts with the 80p speed boost.
 
Additionally, I just want to reiterate - I personally don't want the rare things to be less rare. I just want the common things to be less....garbage-y.
 
Getting a mount should absolutely feel like hitting the lottery. I don't necessarily want to remove or reduce that feeling (although at this point, it seems like I see more people in Thayd with the mount than without). However, opening up a boom box and getting some galactium, or some other stuff that vendors for a couple silver is the absolute worst. 
 
I gave an example above of what I meant. I'll say it again:
The flasks, rather than being objectively worse in every way than ANY OTHER flask in the game (with the exception of the flask that lets you level up your path once for free, which was kinda cool - more unique rewards like this, please!), how about we make the boombox flasks equivalent to the ones you can purchase with renown, except you can have multiples on your person, and you can trade them. Make them have no level restriction, and maybe this game will actually (gasp!) encourage people to level alts!
 
How about getting a piece of food that is exactly like the level 50 buff food, except the buff persists through death? For those of us working on raid boss progression nights, that would be a happy little quality of life gift. Nothing major or world beating, but just a little something nice. Obviously these would have to be trade able. 
 
How about sticking the halloween costume into boom boxes? 
 
Unique mount upgrades!
 
Unique, less rare, non-80p speed mounts!
 
Purple dye chests!
 
Ability and Amp unlocks! 
Or, ya know. Keep giving me that garbage decor. That'll totally encourage me to log in, make me feel appreciated by Carbine, and feel like continuing to give them $15/mo. 	
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I should rephrase:
I'm totally fine with a new boom-box version with new and different (arguably better) rewards for future events. In fact they already stated they'll introduce them next year if I recall right.
 
But it would suck royally if people like me who logged in more or less every single day since headstart would be punished, because a plain reward upgrade would make every boom-box opened so far a stupid mistake and those who'd profit the most would be those who didn't play at all.
Call me selfish all you want I don't give a flying cupcake, but that would be a shitty way to treat loyal customers imo.	
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What if instead of changing existing boom boxes we added on to the feature where the boomboxes you've opened up add up to you receiving a "blast box" which hold only  the rarest items(like costume piece and higher) in the mail.
This system would also be retro active as a nod to loyal players for their support in the past.
 
Something like 20 boom boxes you get 1 blast box.
 
 
OR....OR...
 
what about a blast box for every 30 days you're active?(retroactive as well and possibly easier to track to boot)	
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Well, no, I wouldn't be happier if suddenly everyone started looting items that are clearly intended to be rare and increase in value over the coming months/years.
 
 
There's a perfectly good design behind boomboxes.
 
It's just as selfish to say "i've never had the thing I want out of this free box" while ignoring the reality that you can have those items, if you want. There is a market.
 
At this point, we need Boomboxes 2.0. A completely different set of rewards, perhaps a smaller pool of them. But seeing rare items increase in creation and re-enter the market after the supply of them was supposed to have stopped kinda sucks.
 
So better would simply be this;
 
Stop giving out boomboxes 1.0.
Release boomboxes 2.0 and allow the rare loot from 1.0 to take it's place in the economy.
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I should rephrase:
I'm totally fine with a new boom-box version with new and different (arguably better) rewards for future events. In fact they already stated they'll introduce them next year if I recall right.
 
But it would suck royally if people like me who logged in more or less every single day since headstart would be punished, because a plain reward upgrade would make every boom-box opened so far a stupid mistake and those who'd profit the most would be those who didn't play at all.
Call me selfish all you want I don't give a flying cupcake, but that would be a shitty way to treat loyal customers imo.
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			Free stuff generally is not good stuff.  I really could care less if Carbine gave me these free boomboxes or not, the concept works for some though.	
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			I support raising the floor of the boomboxes, definitely. No increased rates for the rarest stuff but just raising the bottom tier so they're a bit more fun to have and open, instead of feeling really really really shitty when you get something as boring as a white-green item so to speak.	
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			Yeah I now currenlty have 113 boom boxes. I'm not going to spend 113 days of my life opening potential garbage. It's bullshots.	
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Ah yeah, That's a good idea. Make it so only the rare stuff drops from Boomboxes.
 
Then everyone will be all "OMFG I just got *another* Luminous Equivar mount. Carbine buff the Boomboxes NAO!!!".
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			Don't they usually call it a "strawman" when you make fun of an idea nobody had?	
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As someone who opened over 130 of them already I'd be pretty pissed if they NOW decide to clear the garbage of all still existing ones..
Deal with it IMO. We all had to.
Boom-Boxes are clearly designed to be mostly useless with a slim chance of unicorns. So people keep playing for just another day. Or 30.
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Yeah I now currenlty have 113 boom boxes. I'm not going to spend 113 days of my life opening potential garbage. It's bullshots.
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To the people that are saying "NCSoft didn't have to give you free stuff, be happy you get it for free".......well free junk is ...well free junk :(
 
If they don't want to give away decent things fine....at least make them useful things.  Minor flasks of prestige when no one (or very few people even pvp) like they are trying to promote people going into pvp isn't working.  If you want to give out things that are at least useful, but still not that great - how about medishots or something?  Perhaps even some intricate runes or runes that people use.  There is a difference between useful and borderline vendor trash.  I know there is a mount in there somewhere (not that I want the dog mount or whatever it is), I am sure its quite nice and quite rare as it should be.
 
 
 
Here are 10 Ideas for the Boombox that probably don't take much effort to change and are 10 times better than what we have now:
 
medishots
intricate runes
sign of logic/fire/earth/fusion (at least greater or Eldan)
Liquid Confidence
Elemental Life Drains
How about  an item that makes you glow sparkly in game for 2 minutes (life the in game buff you can get)
Speed Potion that last a few hours like the guild one
Experience gain potions
GOLD....cold hard cash...say maybe 5 gold!
SEEDS!!!  You can never have enough seeds!	
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To the people that are saying "NCSoft didn't have to give you free stuff, be happy you get it for free".......well free junk is ...well free junk :(
 
If they don't want to give away decent things fine....at least make them useful things.  Minor flasks of prestige when no one (or very few people even pvp) like they are trying to promote people going into pvp isn't working.  If you want to give out things that are at least useful, but still not that great - how about medishots or something?  Perhaps even some intricate runes or runes that people use.  There is a difference between useful and borderline vendor trash.  I know there is a mount in there somewhere (not that I want the dog mount or whatever it is), I am sure its quite nice and quite rare as it should be.
 
 
 
Here are 10 Ideas for the Boombox that probably don't take much effort to change and are 10 times better than what we have now:
 
medishots
intricate runes
sign of logic/fire/earth/fusion (at least greater or Eldan)
Liquid Confidence
Elemental Life Drains
How about  an item that makes you glow sparkly in game for 2 minutes (life the in game buff you can get)
Speed Potion that last a few hours like the guild one
Experience gain potions
GOLD....cold hard cash...say maybe 5 gold!
SEEDS!!!  You can never have enough seeds!
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Experience gain potions
 
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			remember all those ugly sweaters from under the Christmas tree...did you really go and tell your grandmother the gift SUCKED??? REALLY!???	
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Gosh, what a surprise. People find it to be a disappointment when they're given a gambling-based "chance at something good, but probably not" as part of the compensation for some inconvenience, Who could possibly have imagined this would happen.
 
To those complaining about all the ungrateful entitled people who have the gall to ask for something they'd actually like to have instead of something they don't want to have, even the game's management is not claiming that those boom boxes were given out as gifts. It was in return for the inconvenience associated with the rollout of megaservers. And I would imagine that if they did something like that hoping to get some good PR out of it in addition to that compensation, that they'd like to know if a substantial fraction of the people who got it didn't actually like it and would have been happier with something else.
 
This particular effort to earn some points with the community was implemented by sending out free boxes to everyone containing Schrodinger's cat. People who don't like opening up a box to find a dead cat inside should absolutely provide their feedback that perhaps some other implementation that was more evenly distributed would be a much better idea--even if they got the dead cat for FREE.	
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			its just a mini lottery game, yoiu have the chance to get something good, but you will likely get a dud every time.	
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remember all those ugly sweaters from under the Christmas tree...did you really go and tell your grandmother the gift SUCKED??? REALLY!???
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