148472-lets-fix-hellrose-bowl

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We all know Hellrose Bowl kind of sucks right now. The only time anyone ever did it was when all three bosses counted for attunement, and now that it doesn't even count as a world boss anymore, there's no point in completing it unless you want a neat title. For someone around level 45, which is what the mobs inside it are, it's pretty much a waste of time. You're better off just continuing your quest chain.
 
What can we do to fix this? I'm gonna assume Carbine didn't make it a world boss in order to preserve its uniqueness (multiple rounds, collecting protostar broadcasting equipment), but in the process they made sure no one would want to do it. I managed to organize a group to take it down tonight and gathered about 12 people who were either curious or wanted the title. In the end, we didn't even get the title because we didn't manage to get into overtime, and I didn't know that was a thing that could happen.
 
What can we do to make it so people want to do this? I noticed the requirement was lowered so that you only need 100 pieces of equipment, but that's still a sizable time investment. Maybe making it operate strictly on a timer would encourage people to do it? Maybe there could be world-boss equivalent loot for people at level 50? Maybe it could just be bumped up into a full world boss?
 
Does anyone else have any ideas?	
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We ran this on Christmas Eve and not getting the title ruined Christmas
Nah, I'm joking, but it does feel like a completely wasted effort. :/ There really is no point to doing this event besides the title, which not a lot of people know about so it's super hard to get a group. We started with 5 or so people and only got up to 12 as we ran it.	
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sounds like it needs more intensives.....heck doing 2 runs of zerotic is better than this it seems.
 
boost awards	
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Trying to gather a large group of players to farm trash just to start a meh event to kill meh bosses?
 
Oh wait. That's how everything works in Wildstar's endgame outside raids.
 
And people wonder why this game is dying.	
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			It really just needs updated rewards. It doesn't drop anything useful now (partially due to power creep). Even just adding a pet or some decor (and ideally decent rune stuff?) would make more people interested. It's really a shame, I used to enjoy the event (I'm a sucker for Protostar stuff).	
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It really just needs updated rewards. It doesn't drop anything useful now (partially due to power creep). Even just adding a pet or some decor (and ideally decent rune stuff?) would make more people interested. It's really a shame, I used to enjoy the event (I'm a sucker for Protostar stuff).
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Ive been very Interested in Hellrose Bowl and the R12 Events. But since people always say its a "Waste of time" ive never been able to group up for it.
 
Example,
Remove Lightspire from T3 Contract (Lightspire might be a good idea on paper, but ingame its not.. 1 ilvl60 item for about 30min of complete laggfest?)
 
Add R12 / Upscale Hellrose to lvl 50. Have it drop ilvl70-80 gear and make that a possible T3 Contract.	
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Ive been very Interested in Hellrose Bowl and the R12 Events. But since people always say its a "Waste of time" ive never been able to group up for it.
 
Example,
Remove Lightspire from T3 Contract (Lightspire might be a good idea on paper, but ingame its not.. 1 ilvl60 item for about 30min of complete laggfest?)
 
Add R12 / Upscale Hellrose to lvl 50. Have it drop ilvl70-80 gear and make that a possible T3 Contract.
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*cupcake* rewards.
 
They're not gonna give out BiS gear for doing a chore. They're gonna hand out some shit that'll be replaced the moment you step into GA.
 
Design better content with other types of rewards. Enough with these farm trash then kill lame ass boss "events".
 
Carbine hasn't done anything creative since Protogames. Even those were basically a bunch of existing mechanics in dungeons/raids combined together. Not even the shit in shop has an ounce of effort in it (useless flasks, ugly costumes, and reskinned Orbitrons).
 
At least try Carbine. Because it's pretty clear you guys stopped a long time ago.
 
Make a world PvPvE zone; hell, rip out Warplots and stick it in a world zone and call it good, it's not like recycling content is anything new to you guys. You don't need to worry about PvP balance, it's a zergfest anyway. Have the victors gain access to a shop with discounted glory bags, mounts, housing decor, costumes, AMP/Ability Points, etc at a high amount of glory. Zone resets every 8 hours. Oh shit, you just opened up people to participate in something other than zerging world bosses down outside of raids/dungeon farming. Wow! All of a sudden there's some real competition in this game between the factions outside the lore.	
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I feel like that was written more aggressively than needed (and also went completely off topic, ha). But no one said BiS gear, we're talking more along the line of pets, decor, costumes, decent runecrafting bags, etc. Maybe bonus elder gems? Stuff like that :). Just enough new stuff that people have a reason to run an event (an event that I used to enjoy!).
 
We had a small group willing to run it for a title so I'd imagine that even adding a few fluff rewards would be enough to attract people.
 
Malgrave is meant to be an endgame zone, let's make it more relevant :).	
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Lightspire, R12, and Hellrose at it's core are flawed.
 
You farm trash for 15-30 minutes and zerg down a boss. 
 
That's not fun. And unless the incentives are ridiculous, the only way people will take part is through Contracts. Which is already a chore to begin with. It's no different than any of those fetch quests every other MMO makes you do while leveling.
 
Carbine needs to step their game up in terms of content design and stop recycling ideas over ten years old. I mean, if they care at all about their product.	
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			Yep, it's wasted content. It needs to be made level 50 and offer good rewards. Also make it instances so you can't zerg it down. Make it require skill. Lock it out to once per week or something. Do this with R12 too.	
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Yep, it's wasted content. It needs to be made level 50 and offer good rewards. Also make it instances so you can't zerg it down. Make it require skill. Lock it out to once per week or something. Do this with R12 too.
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