115855-realm-transfers-to-be-disabled-11pm-pdt-101314

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Greetings!
 
In preparation for the upcoming Megaserver merge, we're going to be disabling Realm transfers to all servers at 11PM PDT on 10/13/14. If you were looking to hop on another server prior to the merge, there's only a short amount of time remaining!
 
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wait, wait, wait, WAIT.
 
you tell people 7 hours before you shut off transfers.
my guild wanted to swap to PvE Entity, and there was no real confirmation about the way servers were being decided.
all the info we had was the new names.
 
the megaserver notice didnt go out until today.
most in game STILL believe that after the patch, you were going to log on, and get a choice (this was the LOGICAL progression)
and then redo your name.
 
so now my entire guild, most of which arent on right this moment, has 7 hours to hop to stormtalon?
WTF IS THIS LAST SECOND NOTICE OF SOMETHING THIS BIG?
 
you even cancelled last week's nexus report.
so its been 13 days since we hears a SINGLE WORD OF INPUT on this subject.
then suddenly, megaservers, then suddenly 7 hour notice of transfer service cancellation. all on a 1.5 day notice of megaservers.
 
WTB better communication from Carbine.
start giving more heads up, not this 1 day notice scramble nonsense.	
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~24 hours anyways o/	
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wait, wait, wait, WAIT.
 
you tell people 7 hours before you shut off transfers.
my guild wanted to swap to PvE Entity, and there was no real confirmation about the way servers were being decided.
all the info we had was the new names.
 
the megaserver notice didnt go out until today.
most in game STILL believe that after the patch, you were going to log on, and get a choice (this was the LOGICAL progression)
and then redo your name.
 
so now my entire guild, most of which arent on right this moment, has 7 hours to hop to stormtalon?
WTF IS THIS LAST SECOND NOTICE OF SOMETHING THIS BIG?
 
you even cancelled last week's nexus report.
so its been 13 days since we hears a SINGLE WORD OF INPUT on this subject.
then suddenly, megaservers, then suddenly 7 hour notice of transfer service cancellation. all on a 1.5 day notice of megaservers.
 
WTB better communication from Carbine.
start giving more heads up, not this 1 day notice scramble nonsense.
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they NEVER announced that everyone currently on pve would got to pve megaserver and same with pvp mega.
the general consensus was that a choice would be given on megaserver release day.
people in game i'm talking to now, STILL think this.	
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they NEVER announced that everyone currently on pve would got to pve megaserver and same with pvp mega.
the general consensus was that a choice would be given on megaserver release day.
people in game i'm talking to now, STILL think this.
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Why would you not announce this at the same time as you announced when the megaservers would happen?
 
Codex are transferring to Ascendancy on EU and only around half of our members have managed to move over since we thought we had another day as there was no indication there wasnt, with the rest slated to move over tomorrow as we thought we would have another day.
 
Also you have posted this at 3am European time when all the rest of our guild members are asleep giving us 4 hours aka no time to contact the remaning people who need to transfer 
 
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I am jumping on board to voice my argument against this - I am the GM of Overzealous Gaming, last remaining Oceanic PvP Guild currently on Pergo.
 
We were contemplating a potential move to PvE after a slated Guild Meeting tonight. Its 1pm/2pm here and our entire Guild is at work or AWOL.
 
This is poor form. Please reconsider or at least let transfers continue after Megasevers go live to give the community a better gauge of if it will fix things.
 
NA does not suffer from the severe lack of player-base as the OCE Community does - think of the Kangaroos.
 
Better yet allow people to move PvE to PvP - a pipe dream I know.	
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			Woah wait a second, half of our guild (Codex) hasn't still transfered, they were going to do it tomorrow...	
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Please Carbine. Its 5 in the morning here. We still have several people thats did not transfer over after our raid finished because they had to go sleep for work or whatnot.
 
Understand that its 5 in the morning when you announce this in Europe, give the people a chance to transfer over during the day tomorrow at the very least. come on you are screwing Codex over here.	
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			Codex still has about 25 raiders that haven't transferred and you drop this bomb on us at 1am in the morning GMT and only 6 hours notice... This needs to be delayed.	
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Can we please get an answer from Cougar (or someone in the know) concerning;
 
1) Is this being postponed
2) If not a deadline - I have members away on holidays with no access to internet (or contact information) which means they will be stuck if we move.
 
Cougar mentioned the idea of PvP > PvE is potentially still on the cards after Megaservers but no discussions currently are being had internally. I think this is the time for those discussions.
 
I'd also love to know how/why PvE > PvP is not an option - it can't be technical if one way is possible.	
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Can we please get an answer from Cougar (or someone in the know) concerning;
 
1) Is this being postponed
2) If not a deadline - I have members away on holidays with no access to internet (or contact information) which means they will be stuck if we move.
 
Cougar mentioned the idea of PvP > PvE is potentially still on the cards after Megaservers but no discussions currently are being had internally. I think this is the time for those discussions.
 
I'd also love to know how/why PvE > PvP is not an option - it can't be technical if one way is possible.
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It not being even being discussed yet means it's at the very least a drop or two away. Obviously, transfer tech is a corner they cut in order to do the merger as soon as possible.
 
The reason they don't allow PvE > PvP is because the the l33t dudes would throw a tantrum if people could just transfer over at level cap instead of earning it the hard way
 
Personally, I think they missed an opportunity here to just close the PvP servers entirely and go for a full population consolidation.
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I tend to agree on the missed opportunity. World PvP is unfortunately dead due to population problems.
 
As I've stated before Overzealous Gaming is the last frontier for the PvP Oceanic community which is a crying shame - I and my fellow members do not want to run off to PvE because that will leave the Oceanic Community (including Singapore, Japan and our early morning US players) with no home.
 
However when faced with an uncertain death (Megaservers will bring nothing for us unfortunately as Widow was the unofficial PvP Oceanic home and we already had to merge the three guilds on there into the 'new' OzG) we must think about our future.
 
Please talk to your community Carbine.
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What uncertain death?
You're all going to be on one server, how much easier do you want it to be to find Oceanic players?
If you see people online on your server at the same time as you, big chance they play the same hours, so get recruiting.
 
As for complaining that you still need to transfer, you had over a month of time for this. We explicitly decided not to move with our guild and wait.
Seriously, common sense that this feature was going to be disabled, and it was announced.
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			I can accept you have a tough decision. I can't accept that having one extra day when you've already had over a month already would make it easier.It looks like your decision got made for you.	
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I can accept you have a tough decision. I can't accept that having one extra day when you've already had over a month already would make it easier.
 
It looks like your decision got made for you.
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I'm unsure where your situated but we have everyone on Pergo that can raid Oceanic times. Its not a matter of 'get recruiting' haha - there is simply no one left.
 
Again, as I stated Widow was the original home for all things PvP Oceanic - we already consumed two guilds (and transfered) to ensure the Oceanic Community would have a presence Exile PvP-side. There is no one left apart from the hopefully Early Morning US'ers that may come with Wednesday.
 
In regards to your "you've had a month" - just like Codex this isn't an easy decision. There is no returning, and tbh a much bigger decision for the Oceanic Community - if we depart that's it for PvP Exile Oceanic, factor in I've got members not wanting to go 'Carebear' and people away on holidays, we are faced with a tough decision.
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I am not saying that making the announcement 6 or 7 hours prior of turning realm transfers off completely was one of the best decision ever been made BUT it's still plenty of time for a player to make the decision.
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Ok you want to tell us that on pergo and widow nobody plays or have been playing in the last weeks/months exception 4 people that merged with your current guild? Very interesting.
 
I am sure it's a big decision to be made but there are bigger factions that managed to transfer within a specific time frame without losing players inside the huge pixel universe. It just takes a lot of organization and effort but it ain't impossible.
 
There was always a return, sure it would of taken 7 days due to the restriction but you could always transfer to another realm again or even back to your old realm.
 
I am not saying that making the announcement 6 or 7 hours prior of turning realm transfers off completely was one of the best decision ever been made BUT it's still plenty of time for a player to make the decision.
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I'll be highly surprised they will let Codex be stuck in limbo
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I understand that shutting down free server transfers is somehow needed to prepare for megaservers, but really.. you could have given us more time to place our chars where we want to play in the future (pve/pvp).
 
since the server i'm playing on (hazak) had recently dropped so low in its population i moved one of my chars to ascendancy just to have ppl to talk to and play with, but my friends (who refused to play until some upcoming patches are going live) still got their chars on hazak - so right now i got a developed char on a realm which will merge into the pve megaserver but all people i know will be on the pvp megaserver, this is REALLY frustrating..
 
so, please, just turn on free server transfers a few more hours before megaservers are coming tomorrow, you will prevent alot of tears that way and i hop it's still manageable from your technical point of view.	
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			I've similar problems like you guys and would appreciate it, if Carbine would open the free server transfers a bit longer.	
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I can see the problem people are having and like had been stated a personal large server(PvE/PvP merge) would have been, BUT. Free transfers have been on for a while)I believe over a month). They have SAID it would be at mid to late October for megaservers, so EVERYONE had enough notice to plan it out instead of waiting for last second or announcement. Complaining for a few more days is like asking a professor to extend the deadline because you procrastinated. As far the people that have said they moved because of population issue(but changed from pve to pvp) you, honestly, should of thought of that or made an alt. It was stated the transfer was to help with the population issue until servers hit, not a system to hold your hand because you didn't think ahead.
 
One more thing to those with different time zones, this is a MMO, so they can't really babysit with everyone's timezone if they are working on their own timezone deadlines. Rant over	
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Hi all,
 
Firstly, my sincere apologies for the late notice on this issue. We've already flagged your feedback and concerns to our NA Teams and made it clear that this timing was not appropriate for EU players.
 
I, sadly, do not have answers for you right now. We will need to wait for Carbine to find out what will happen to those still awaiting transfer.
 
I have also asked if it's possible to cancel a pending transfer, so at least Guilds will have an option to allow them to stay together. Codex & other Guilds who have split rosters following this, please have your Guild Leader contact us via theredphone@carbinestudios.com so we can at least discuss any potential solutions if they're possible.
 
Once again, my deepest apologies for this folks.	
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Thanks for the reply and for reaching out, Anlath.
 
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I have also asked if it's possible to cancel a pending transfer, so at least Guilds will have an option to allow them to stay together.
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			Why wait until the very last day to move your guild over....	
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Why wait until the very last day to move your guild over....
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Still, they could have moved for weeks now. It was obvious that the megaserver was coming this or next week. They knew you could not swap from PvP/Pve after the megaserver change. There was plenty of time to decide to go for a PvE realm instead of a PvP one.
 
That said, Carbine dropped the ball here also. Waiting until 6 hours before they are going to close the transfer window, for an official announcement, is an example of poor management also.	
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Why wait until the very last day to move your guild over....
 
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I was certainly looking forward to the megaservers.
 
Unfortunately, after a long period of waiting, at the very moment I am informed that they are finally arriving (read the mail this morning), I also discover, with no little frustration that the transfers are *already* disabled. The main consequence being that my characters will end up separated through two megaservers...
 
To add insult to the injury, there is still the "Feel free to take advantage of free realm transfers" message taunting me during character selection...	
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I have also asked if it's possible to cancel a pending transfer, so at least Guilds will have an option to allow them to stay together.
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Because having everyone in a guild stuck forever on the wrong server is so much better than them being split up.
 
Here's a better question to take to Carbine: WHY are you closing the gate on server transfers AT ALL?
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Sucky situation for Codex, I hope it gets resolved. It would be nice to have you guys on PvE.
 
That said, it's not just Carbine's fault. Leaving it so late to transfer is a bit silly. Should've followed Eugenic's example and transfer weeks ago - roster boss conquered forever and everyone is safe on the new server. 	
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 Because the servers no longer exist after the mega-server?
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I'm fairly certain Chua can count to 2 :P. One PvP server + one PvE server = two servers. There's never been a reason given why transfers from PvP to PvE will abruptly become unavailable with the arrival of megaservers.
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I'm fairly certain Chua can count to 2 :P. One PvP server + one PvE server = two servers. There's never been a reason given why transfers from PvP to PvE will abruptly become unavailable with the arrival of megaservers.
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Codex & other Guilds who have split rosters following this, please have your Guild Leader contact us via theredphone@carbinestudios.com so we can at least discuss any potential solutions if they're possible.
 
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			It says you have until October 15th to transfer it's October 14th here and the last of my group can't transfer. I would be willing to even pay for transfer to get the last of them over to storm talon. Folks were on holiday, work, etc.	
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			So... I reinstalled the game to transfer to PvE so I could play casually and the transfers are down? You said we had until the 15th. Please allow us to transfer after the merges.	
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not a complaint per say, but what I don't understand is the sudden rush at the end of this. Megaservers have been coming for ages and that was fine but I think everyone expected a wee bit more notice about the actual date.
 
Not just "hey its happening in 3 days!". Like I was honestly expecting more of a "guys you have 2 weeks from now to get moving".
 
It seems odd to have to force this change through with so little direct notice of a finite date. (yes I'm aware they announced mega servers over a month ago, I keep quite abreast of situations, but even the most rabid fanboi has to admit that the announcement of a an actual date, did not give a load of time from then to get final deciders to make an informed decision.)
 
I hasten to say im not in their situation. I just feel for them. I have all 60 of my characters happily sitting where I want them to be. (24 PvE Exile/ 24 PvE Dominion/ 6 PvP Exile/ 6 PvP Dominon) I'm personally just curious about how many of my 60 minions will still exist post server merge, but that's a topic for another thread.	
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We first got told it would happen in 3-6 weeks.
Then the thread appeared with estimates for drop 3 and megaservers (early november and mid october respectively)
Finally, last weekend a dev confirmed on twitter that the Go/No-Go decision was happening that weekend.
 
They've stayed on schedule all along, in my guild we had it as 100% confirmed that megaservers would be happening this week or the next. Being told 2 days in advance for the exact date is cool.	
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Good for your guild. A lot of the rest of us however didn't have anything confirmed and it all sounded very wooley.
 
As said, im sorted, but I do feel for others who are finding themselves stuck.
 
You can't assume that people hang out on the forums, or twitter or anything else. It's a computer game they have purchased and continue to pay for to play. Thus the only info you can truly expect anyone to know is stuff that's repeatedly clearly displayed at launch. Beyond that, it is isn't fair to expect anyone to have to do homework on something as big as this to someone's gaming experience.
 
Putting your own "im alright, we're alright, so you should be alright too" slant on it, doesn't really matter. It should have been emblazoned across the launcher 2 weeks ago with the date and everyone should have had it made abundantly, idiot proofingly clear to them.	
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I understand that it was a late REMINDER that server xfers will be closed.  But as already said before me, you guys have had over a month to figure out what you are doing and do it.  They said that server xfers were going to be closed before Megaservers (which is pretty obvious if you think it through as to why), and Megaservers are being done tomorrow morning.  Procrastination isn't exactly a good thing, and any guild leader with any sort of foresight should have made the call to take action well before now (Like 99% of the other guilds already did).
 
Now I am not saying they shouldn't allow you a way to get where your guild is (We all know they can't afford to break up guilds like Codex due to this).  But simply know that it is all on you and your guild as the reason why.  You have no one to blame but yourselves and your guild leader.	
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Good for your guild. A lot of the rest of us however didn't have anything confirmed and it all sounded very wooley.
 
As said, im sorted, but I do feel for others who are finding themselves stuck.
 
You can't assume that people hang out on the forums, or twitter or anything else. It's a computer game they have purchased and continue to pay for to play. Thus the only info you can truly expect anyone to know is stuff that's repeatedly clearly displayed at launch. Beyond that, it is isn't fair to expect anyone to have to do homework on something as big as this to someone's gaming experience.
 
Putting your own "im alright, we're alright, so you should be alright too" slant on it, doesn't really matter. It should have been emblazoned across the launcher 2 weeks ago with the date and everyone should have had it made abundantly, idiot proofingly clear to them.
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sigh
 
Please stop digging more holes carbine.....this is getting stupid.
 
Trying to stay positive and support the game but itemization being held back and I wake up and see this. I am pretty upset with you right now.	
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Consumers exist in a bubble. You buy a product to use the product. Any changes that happen, the onus is on the provider to clearly convey that information in every tiny detail to its consumers and make sure the message is getting across clearly with as much warning as they can possibly get across.
 
To say this is a reminder is a nonsense. It's not. The actual date was confirmed 2 days ago. Literally confirmed just 2 days ago. You can forgive those people waiting on a date confirmation to make their choice.
 
As said, if a provider changes its services, the onus is on them. Not the consumer!
 
I tend to be overly organised and get things sorted as soon as I can, but others approach things differently from me. I can't just assume because they are different, they are wrong. I can assume that 3 days notice from confirmation of server merge, to actual server merge is not adequate notice for a lot of players who don't pay massive attention to various ancillary media sources.
 
I'm not slagging carbine off here. I'm very yay carbine. I've not played in months and yet continue to pay my subs because I want to support the game but lets call a spade a spade. The customer is the one owed the duty of care, not the other way round.
 
We give carbine money for a service, they are therefore supposed to keep us happy. Carbine is a company, not our bestest mate who we have to meet half way and although many of carbine's employees are awesome people, it still doesn't change the fact that carbine is a corporate entity, here to provide for the needs of its consumers, so its completely okay for consumers to go "oi I was waiting for a date confirmation before making my choice, I really didn't expect that to be 3 days before the merge and to be a day and half before stopping realm transfers, this isn't normal for notice to customers! WTF?!"
 
However you wont agree, as a lot of people fall into the very odd "carbine said a thing ages ago and its up to you to act on it, despite the lack of all details, as carbine is our bestest buddies and we should protect them like they are a person".
 
How to best describe this: your consumer feedback is not relevant to someone else's. Only games have this. People don't complain online about a washing machine and then have a whole host of people try to debunk the persons claim as their fault, because they weren't as awesome about staying up to speed with the washing machine manufacturers web page. It's simply I bought a thing, im unhappy with something the manufacturer has done to the thing I bought. Beyond that anyone else's opinion is immaterial and unneeded and only serves their own ego about how awesome they themselves are. It all just seems a tad smug and, unless your Carbine's customer support, unneeded.	
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I'm going through and "liking" all of Lemurian's comments here.
 
You can't procrastinate and then expect to get an extension.  The world doesn't operate that way, and I don't want a world that operates that way.
 
My guild saw the news when it was initially announced, put up a vote, came to a decision within 48 hours, and transferred the next day.  If other GLs weren't on top of it, then that's just poor management.  Blame your GL, not Carbine.	
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For what it's worth, sure it's certainly partially anyone's fault for not transferring sooner, but Carbine has a lot of blame here.
 
 
Specifically, I got an e-mail sent to my account linked address that says EXPLICITLY "We currently have enabled free realm transfers between certain realms until Megaservers are live." (Emphasis added). I'm sorry but that e-mail also told me Megaservers weren't going live until 10/15/2014.  That e-mail went out YESTERDAY. To have them then come here and make this non-pinned forum post to amend an account wide e-mail alert is extremely poor decision making.
 
My friends and I decided yesterday to move to PvE after being prompted by the e-mail. We had no plans to move so it wasn't procrastination, we just were playing, said 'Hey maybe we should just move to PvE, the world PvP is pretty bad on WildStar' and we did. The problem? One of our friends had an in-game mail en route and it prevented him from transferring. No big deal, the mail will get there before the 15th. Oh....kind of a big deal now....
 
Megaservers are NOT live. Transfers are NOT enabled. The e-mail sent out yesterday was very wrong. To pin that on anyone other than Carbine/NCSoft is incorrect. Don't give misleading information to everyone and then change it in an innocuous forum post. No offense, I'm much more likely to read my e-mails than to spend my time surfing the official Wildstar forum. If I have free time I play the game, not read about it.
 
EDIT: If the forum post is pinned it doesn't say it. Sorry if that is incorrect but I'm just going by the actual lack of a "pinned" icon.	
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For what it's worth, sure it's certainly partially anyone's fault for not transferring sooner, but Carbine has a lot of blame here.
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Most companies might shut down transfers a week in advance. Maybe even Carbine SHOULD have done that to avoid the current situation. The fact is most companies also wouldn't tell everyone in an e-mail "You have until 10/15/2014 to transfer" and then make a forum post later that day that says "Actually you have until 11 pm PST on 10/13/2014". That's the problem.
 
And no, I won't be "thankful" just to get a reminder. I pay 15.99/month for this service, I'm not being done any favors here. I'm paying for service. I suppose if your phone company completely changed terms and conditions of your service you should be "thankful" they'd give you notice? Because honestly, I imagine if your phone company said "We're going to change all the terms and conditions of your service unless you e-mail us by the 15th" and then didn't wait until the 15th to make those changes you'd probably be a little peeved too.
 
So please, since I clearly don't "know how everything went down" why don't you enlighten me?	
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Specifically, I got an e-mail sent to my account linked address that says EXPLICITLY "We currently have enabled free realm transfers between certain realms until Megaservers are live." (Emphasis added). I'm sorry but that e-mail also told me Megaservers weren't going live until 10/15/2014.  That e-mail went out YESTERDAY.
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So please, since I clearly don't "know how everything went down" why don't you enlighten me?
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sigh...theirs always gonna be those who's response is "it's your own fault, I managed it, so why couldn't you."
 
It's always the case. People can be self satisfied and infinitely smug. As said, your actions are neither here nor there. Those affected by this have a valid concern caused by falling numbers in the game, mega servers being implemented and so much of the game being broken at launch that a massive chunk of the player base left; but yes by all means lets blame the player for not switching in a speedier fashion.
 
This is a paid for service, as said above. Consumers have a right to be informed and the actual date was only confirmed two days ago in a fairly clear way; before that even those of us who do read forums had a fuzzy "mid October" type of feeling about the server merge.
 
As I said above, its great that you gsuy are alright, but some other people aren't. Carbine doesn't need white knights, especially ones who are only there to pat themselves on the back.	
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That's a pretty huge "oops" and if you can't see that then you have on rose colored glasses.
 
Please tell me specifically where they gave a hard date as to the transfer end? Because the first indication I got of a specific date was that very e-mail and that ended up giving me the wrong date. That's fine if they need to change it, but they should have sent out an e-mail rather than posting here on the forum to correct their mistake.The way it was handled was poor and if you can't admit that you must have no concept of customer service. Blaming people for relying on an e-mail that was sent to their account linked address?  By that logic I shouldn't have trusted that the transfers would ever end because that may have been an "oops" too.	
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sigh...theirs always gonna be those who's response is "it's your own fault, I managed it, so why couldn't you."
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Did you HONESTLY expect the finite date for the server merge to be given less than 3 days before it happening and only 36 hours before server switching being stopped?
 
honestly?
 
When making hard decisions people will often put stuff off to the last minute as they don't want to bite the bullet. Many people expected more notice of the ACTUAL date. So yes it is carbines fault, as they should have communicated the ACTUAL date more than 3 days in advance. They clearly can email their players (like they did) so why not do it 2 weeks before the merge and give people time to get their stuff in order, not just give people 3 days notice of the end date.
 
If I was given a piece of work I didn't want to do and told its gotta be done at some point in October and then that person came to me in October and said "actually I need it in 3 days", my first answer would be "did you know this last week and if you did why didn't you tell me then, so I could organise things for then?". The amount of time given in advance of the final date being announced is immaterial, the time between announcement of the merger and the actual merger is ridiculously small and will have caught many players out.
 
Can you honestly say it wouldn't have been better customer service for them to announce the actual DATE, earlier than 3 days before merge? Really?	
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Can you honestly say it wouldn't have been better customer service for them to announce the actual DATE, earlier than 3 days before merge? Really?
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			There should always be a hard warning of at least 24 hours prior suck a drastic change. Guilds are different, especially an established ones like Codex, with multiple ties within a server. Our guild transfered about 3 weeks ago and it still took another week for doubters to finally make a decision. Your arena team, notable enemies, friends outside of a guild and just about anything can prolong it. Having an exact date and time announced and not at 3 AM could only help with making that choice. Those who think otherwise simply amaze me. Honesly, wow, you must be from a parallel universe.	
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There should always be a hard warning of at least 24 hours prior suck a drastic change. Guilds are different, especially an established ones like Codex, with multiple ties within a server. Our guild transfered about 3 weeks ago and it still took another week for doubters to finally make a decision. Your arena team, notable enemies, friends outside of a guild and just about anything can prolong it. Having an exact date and time announced and not at 3 AM could only help with making that choice.
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The thing is, if a court wanted you to pay some sort of fee they wouldn't give you an ambiguous date as a deadline to pay. They wouldn't say "you have until sometime around the middle of October" and then on October 13 send you a letter saying "You have until the 15th" and then send you a e-mail a few hours later saying "Actually you have 7 hours to pay." Your example is exemplifying the absurdity of your argument. They never gave a hard date, then they did give a hard date (the 15th) and then they posted on the forum and basically said "Not the 15th anymore, you now have 7 hours."
 
The only reason my friends and I even attempted the change was because we finally had what appeared to be a hard deadline of the 15th. Being told "Sometime around mid-October" would be a real pain if you're trying to coordinate 40+ people transferring (not our situation but surely the case for some). With that sort of ambiguity to a drop dead date you have to understand there's some hesitance to even make an attempt not knowing when the plug on transfers is going to get pulled. The thing about deadlines is they give you safety. Saying "Well you waited until the last minute, you're dumb" is simply and categorically wrong. If there's a date given, any time before that date should be 100% acceptable. We were told the 15th "when megaservers go live" - they cut it to sometime in the late hours of the 13th/early hours of the 14th depending on where you live. If you made your transfers well in advance, congratulations, but there's not supposed to be a penalty for attempting a move within the window that was relayed to the community in the first account based e-mail I've ever received from NCSoft apart from account creation.
 
EDIT: I'm not trying to make this personal, but quite honestly some people here seem like they're actually living on Nexus or some other made up place. I love this game but people who can't accept that there was clearly a horrendous failure in communication on the part of Carbine/NCSoft and instead try and white knight for them are just mind boggling. I can't tell if they're just trolls, or they think they're helping the game but it's *not* a help to try and justify poor service. The clear breakdown somewhere on the company side that led to two separate and very different deadlines for transfers being released on the *same day*. I shouldn't be expected to ignore an official e-mail from the company with no other warning. They could have posted it in the loggin area or sent a second e-mail. Sure, it was almost certainly a mistake, at least I'd hope Carbine/NCSoft isn't overtly releasing confusing information in an attempt to screw over their clients, but it's still their mistake. Could people have transferred sooner? Sure. But there was no need to. You can't give people a window of time to make a decision and then blame them for taking advantage of that window. That's asinine.	
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I have been asked to post here by support staff.    I attempted to transfer last night due to the abrupt deadline notice, and was unable to with an error message due to "unread mail".  I did not have any unread mail, open buy/sell orders, or auction items.  I repeatedly logged off and on again to try to clear the error message.  I was not able to transfer and now the transfers have closed.
 
Here is their message to me regarding my attempt to transfer realms:
 
As much as I want to assist, the support team does not have the ability to transfer any characters at this time. I understand that many players like you feel that 11 PM notification was sudden. I can only encourage you post your feedback regarding this change on our forum, as it's the most directly line of communications between players and the WildStar developers.
 
Here is a link: https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/115855-realm-transfers-to-be-disabled-11pm-pdt-101314/
 
If there is anything else I can help you with, feel free to contact us again.
Thanks,
JeffWildStar Support Team
 
 
So, ATTENTION WILDSTAR DEVELOPERS
 
Please help.  Your transfer system was bugged for me during the small window of notice you gave regarding realm transfers.  Your support team is not capable of fixing the issue.  All other members of my guild were able to move their characters last night and now I have been left behind.	
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Specifically, I got an e-mail sent to my account linked address that says EXPLICITLY "We currently have enabled free realm transfers between certain realms until Megaservers are live." (Emphasis added). I'm sorry but that e-mail also told me Megaservers weren't going live until 10/15/2014.  That e-mail went out YESTERDAY. To have them then come here and make this non-pinned forum post to amend an account wide e-mail alert is extremely poor decision making.
 
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Ok so you admit that all of things you just said were personal reasons as to why someone may not have transferred right? When do personal reasons become the fault of the company with the rules in place? Additionally, there were reminders more than 24 hours ago. When the date of the 15th was announced in a dev thread/post, they said to make sure you transfer (that was 3 days ago). As well as the FAQ that has been up for 5 weeks or so with the time frame of Mid October.
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People seem to be completely missing the point here and turning this into a humungous flame war.
 
Yes perhaps Codex should have transferred earlier, however we were focused on progression with a stable roster. When carbine announced we had 2 days to megaservers we made the decision to transfer for future recruitment purposes. 2 days was a short but adequate amount of time to transfer over our roster, with half moving after the raid and the other half moving the next morning.
 
However the part we are annoyed at is that Carbine announced the shutting of server transfers at 3am European time, and only giving us 5 hours of notice. Aka nothing given the time in europe. You really cannot defend that this is 
 
a. At the complete wrong time to announce something in Europe
b. Not enough notice in the slightest - if they had done the same thing 1 week ago, guilds could still have been caught out as we have just as people transfer over the course of 2 days
 
Hopefully we will get some help from carbine given the circumstances and the timeframe 	
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Your nonsensical copycat mumbling on every page 
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"Instead they are taking the high ground and dealing with Support and Devs directly[...]"
 
 
Except that support has actually sent out e-mails in response to tickets saying in essence "we can't help you post on the 'realm transfers to be disabled' forum thread and hope for attention."
 
This is my personal third stop after posting a ticket and e-mailing the red phone. Anlath was very responsive to the e-mail and I thank him for that, but the ticket response is actually something to the effect of "Support can't help, post on the forum as it's the most direct lime of communication to the devs."
 
For someone who claims no one else seems to grasp the situation you seem rather uninformed yourself and it seems rather unfortunate you're throwing around the term "ignorant" so freely.
 
EDIT: And no, there was not a hard warning of an abrupt transfer deadline beyond what's transpired over the last 2-3 days depending on where you live. If you think it exists please provide a link. The first *hard* deadline I seemed to receive was an e-mail I personally received yesterday that said the transfers end when Megaservers "go live" - the Megaservers are not live yet but transfers have already ended. And as to Beclam: "Removing free transfers is a process of making them live[...]" - that may be true, but then they should have made it more clear as the plain English reading of "until servers go live" means any time before they are live. That's clearly not the current case.	
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Removing free transfers is a process of making them live, gotta have that step before others.
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So exactly why can't they remove free transfers during the planned maintenance window ?
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Think of it this way.  You pay the government taxes, right?  Far more than $15/month.  If they told you 5 weeks ago that you needed to show up in court before the middle of October to pay a debt (you can make the appearance at any time before then), and you didn't, that they would just let you blame them for it?  You think they would give you an extension because you weren't sure if you wanted to pay it yet?  Not the greatest analogy, but it should work well enough for this.
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So exactly why can't they remove free transfers during the planned maintenance window ?
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It looks like this is developing into a discussion whether you got to do stuff as early as you can or do it "5 to twelve", in the last possible moment.. however, that has nothing to do with the situation here and no "they had over a month" comment, even if repeated constantly, can change that. apart from a view where people pat their own back how selforganized and foreseeing they are: if you are told you can transfer until megaservers are live, then that is the time given, and it's not up to anyone except the player who choses to transfer (or not) to judge his timing for that action. 
 
people could have transfered before, but they didn't have to and their reasoning was based on first vague (~mid oct) and then wrong (you have until servers go live) information. it is completely irrelevant what reasons they had to wait with their transfers.	
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			Ah! They just announced on the Nexus report that they will reopen free transfers for a small amount of time and that this time they will be clear about the dates.	
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Ah! They just announced on the Nexus report that they will reopen free transfers for a small amount of time and that this time they will be clear about the dates.
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			What I got from this is that everyone is going from PvP to PvE if given the chance now?	
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Hey all,
 
We are going to allow free realm transfers once MegaServers are up and running.  We will let you know how long this will last in a day or two, but for now know that you will be able to change free of charge once MegaServers are live.   :)	
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Hey all,
 
We are going to allow free realm transfers once MegaServers are up and running.  We will let you know how long this will last in a day or two, but for now know that you will be able to change free of charge once MegaServers are live.   :)
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Hey all,
 
We are going to allow free realm transfers once MegaServers are up and running.  We will let you know how long this will last in a day or two, but for now know that you will be able to change free of charge once MegaServers are live.   :)
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Thank you for the official response. Great solution and it is much appreciated~
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Thanks for a much deserved announcement, as a plus mr. Hodor can stop constantly repeat himself and get some rest.
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Important information of note, the Realm transfers will remain PVP -> PVE only, so do keep this in mind.
 
Thanks!	
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And now that we know its not a technical obstacle to allowing transfers we're back to square 1: "Why are you closing down PvP-to-PvE transfers at all?"
 
Charge for them if you have to, but when a player gets sick of their 19th gank while trying to do a daily, you're well served by having a third option beyond re-roll or /unsub.	
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And now that we know its not a technical obstacle to allowing transfers we're back to square 1: "Why are you closing down PvP-to-PvE transfers at all?"
 
Charge for them if you have to, but when a player gets sick of their 19th gank while trying to do a daily, you're well served by having a third option beyond re-roll or /unsub.
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Important information of note, the Realm transfers will remain PVP -> PVE only, so do keep this in mind.
 
Thanks!
 
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I realized I like PVP in your game a lot more than PVE around lvl 40-something. I have very limited gaming time and hate leveling and thus the very idea of re-rolling seems nighmarish to me. I kept my subscription running hoping that you would realize this is just bad policy that serves no purpose other than irritate your playerbase.  I would even pay for this. A lot. I have money, I don't have time. I still loged on but couldn't find people interested in pvp enough (which is quite allright on pve server). 
 
I am not the type to be posting long and heart filled "farewell" type of drama posts so just letting you know that I all want to do is high level PVP with my PVP peers on PVP server. What happened to your motto "play the way you want to play" ?
 
Should it be "play the way you want to play unless we come up with some poor policy that will stick to even if this old school hardcore type of approach got us in the troubles in the first place"?
 
I just want to play your game and pay for it!
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then level an alt?
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the reason why pve -> pvp is not allowed is that pvp players do not allow pve players, who leveled "the easy way", on their beloved bloodstained pvp server? ... what? make a poll, i cannot imagine anyone that likes this game not welcoming new players on a pvp realm who actually DECIDED for themselves that they want to do open world pvp - it's alot more than many people playing on pvp atm have ever done, maybe alot of them thought they're generally not allowed to do pvp on a pve realm...
 
 i mean it's good (and needed) that you are reopening free server transfers but the reason for not allowing pve->pvp seems a bit odd.. or maybe i am just misjudging how proud the pvp folk is for the "hard work" and suffering on a pvp server.. honestly, if it was suffering than THEY chose the wrong server in the first place.
 
correct me if i'm wrong. 	
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			Will paid transfers be available after monday?	
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Will paid transfers be available after monday?
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Why do you lock us in?Do you want guilds to fall to pieces?
 
You clearly have the tech, so if this is all about some weird and (in my opinion stupid) ideology - ask the playerbase.
Have a poll.
 
"Should PvE -> PvP transfer be allowed?"
 
You don't need a poll for paid transfer, because that is just something you have to have.
 
If you lock us in, you might as well merge Jabbit with Luminai and just remove world PvP.	
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			Luminai is literally being killed and in the next 3 days it's going to just get worse and worse. Why do you favor PVE over PVP? Do you want one of the realms to die?	
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Unfortunately I have to agree with everyone else here.  It seems like you want the PvP servers to die off, which makes no sense since you just implemented the Megaservers.  The population difference is immense, and the difference will only be greater after this weekend.
 
You have the tech to allow transferring both ways.  Please do it for the better of your game.	
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