112541-death-of-technologist

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So there's this....
 
1 Runic Elemental Flux =.....
 
1x Smarth Cloth (Master Tailor)    5x Starloom Cloth        40x Bloodbriar    5x Sign of Logic - Eldan    2x Sign of Fusion - Eldan    1x Eldan Acceleron        9x Kinetic Omni-Plasm        1x Eldan Acceleron1x Vitalium Ingot (Master Armorer)    4x Galactium Chunk    5x Sign of Life - Eldan    2x Sign of Fusion - Eldan    2x Starshard1x Tech Leather (Master Outfitter)    3x Augmented Leather    5x Sign of Logic - Eldan    2x Sign of Fusion - Eldan    2x Primal Pelt1x Corium Acceleron (Master Weaponsmith)    4x Galactium Chunk    5x Sign of Earth - Eldan    2x Sign of Fusion - Eldan    1x Eldan Acceleron        9x Kinetic Omni-Plasm        1x Eldan Acceleron
 
On a good day that's ~8 plat worth of materials, before people start buying up all the materials to jack the prices. Glad I switched back to technologist.	
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			Where'd you find the formula?  I want to see if the tier 7 talent in one of those professions, which can reduce the requirement by 2, will remove the appropriate mat cross tradeskill.  Personally, I'm already expert technologist and expert weaponsmith, with the corium acceleron tier 7, so I just need to find the formula.	
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Where'd you find the formula?  I want to see if the tier 7 talent in one of those professions, which can reduce the requirement by 2, will remove the appropriate mat cross tradeskill.  Personally, I'm already expert technologist and expert weaponsmith, with the corium acceleron tier 7, so I just need to find the formula.
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			Price-gouging for the Signs has already started on Caretaker.	
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			I just heard that the formula is available on the holocrypt vendor, so Ill update in a bit (doing some rep stuff on live) when I find out the answer to my question.	
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How is this the death of Technologists? It's the way to make us rich beyond imagination!
 
EVERY PLAYER wants 20+ of these fluxes.
 
From playing this game, I have 250/250 galactium ore, 250/250 starloom cloth, 250/250 augmented leather, 250/250 accelerons, 50+ starshards, 50+ primal pelts, 50+ logic and life eldan signs, 20 eldan earth signs
 
And 4 eldan signs of fusion, but they're easily farmable from the pell
 
I just have to find guildies who don't charge me money for crafting if I provide all the materials.	
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How is this the death of Technologists? It's the way to make us rich beyond imagination!
 
EVERY PLAYER wants 20+ of these fluxes.
 
From playing this game, I have 250/250 galactium ore, 250/250 starloom cloth, 250/250 augmented leather, 250/250 accelerons, 50+ starshards, 50+ primal pelts, 50+ logic and life eldan signs, 20 eldan earth signs
 
And 4 eldan signs of fusion, but they're easily farmable from the pell
 
I just have to find guildies who don't charge me money for crafting if I provide all the materials.
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			If the price is too high, no one will buy especially that some previously useless runes will be useful.	
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			As I explained above, these things are essentially free to make because the subcomponents are not too hard to gather (my bags are full of them), so you just need 4 reliable guildies and you'll make profit.	
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I can see this news affecting us, realistically, in one of two ways...
 
Option 1: Demand for Runic Elemental Flux will be astronomical to start. The supply of the materials to make the materials are in moderate supply (I farm Pell for Fusions daily, average drop rate is <5%). The materials' prices will shoot up due to the large demand. The materials will at least triple in price causing ~8 plat worth of materials to be ~24 plat. Only the rich will be able to afford them after everyone has their materials dried up having other people craft them, and craft them for themselves. This will, in-turn, cause the supply to outweigh the demand and the price will drop. Technologists will lose money, over time, and you will end up spending ~10-15 plat to turn around and sell the Flux for ~5 plat on a good day.
 
Option 2: People will accept the rune slots that RNGesus provides them because they don't want to spend ~8 plat per Flux (assuming prices dictated by Supply and Demand stay the same they are now) and the materials themselves will be worth more than the crafted product. This leave us Technos in the same boat we are now (minus the new MediShots/Cores/etc).	
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As I explained above, these things are essentially free to make because the subcomponents are not too hard to gather (my bags are full of them), so you just need 4 reliable guildies and you'll make profit.
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That's just a lie.
 
http://www.jabbithole.com/items/sign-of-fusion-eldan-29595-1s26mb
http://www.jabbithole.com/items/sign-of-logic-eldan-29603-1s26mb
http://www.jabbithole.com/items/sign-of-life-eldan-29587-1s26mb
 
Each type has several mobs that have >5% drop rates.
Compared to cooking this is a cakewalk.
 
You're MASSIVELY overreacting. 	
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That's just a lie.
 
http://www.jabbithole.com/items/sign-of-fusion-eldan-29595-1s26mb
http://www.jabbithole.com/items/sign-of-logic-eldan-29603-1s26mb
http://www.jabbithole.com/items/sign-of-life-eldan-29587-1s26mb
 
Each type has several mobs that have >5% drop rates.
Compared to cooking this is a cakewalk.
 
You're MASSIVELY overreacting. 
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Option 2: People will accept the rune slots that RNGesus provides them because they don't want to spend ~8 plat per Flux (assuming prices dictated by Supply and Demand stay the same they are now) and the materials themselves will be worth more than the crafted product. This leave us Technos in the same boat we are now (minus the new MediShots/Cores/etc).
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			You can't solo lvl 46 superiors?	
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You can't solo lvl 46 superiors?
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 I want to see if the tier 7 talent in one of those professions, which can reduce the requirement by 2, will remove the appropriate mat cross tradeskill.
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At some point you give up on the debate and start trolling.
 
The guy has said that the fluxes will go up to 24 plat each and technologist is dead, then calls himself a realist.
 
What can you do.	
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The guy has said that the fluxes will go up to 24 plat each and technologist is dead, then calls himself a realist.
 
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Just farmed up 93 augmented leather and 37 starloom cloth in a about an hour. You can stop crying about how hard mats are to get. Not to mention I have 24 green/blue items to salvage which will give me all kind of components. Edit. Also got 15 Eldan Earth Signs and 4 Eldan Air signs from the mobs I was farming
 
PSS Got 106 Eldan Signs of logic after farming for 5 hours around Phage Labs, that roughly 21 signs an hour. Put some work into farming and less crying.	
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Just farmed up 93 augmented leather and 37 starloom cloth in a about an hour. You can stop crying about how hard mats are to get. Not to mention I have 24 green/blue items to salvage which will give me all kind of components. 
 
Edit. Also got 15 Eldan Earth Signs and 4 Eldan Air signs from the mobs I was farming
 
PSS Got 106 Eldan Signs of logic after farming for 5 hours around Phage Labs, that roughly 21 signs an hour. Put some work into farming and less crying.
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I could easily kill 10-15 Pell. This would give me ~29% chance of seeing a single Sign of Fusion - Eldan
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PSS Got 106 Eldan Signs of logic after farming for 5 hours around Phage Labs, that roughly 21 signs an hour. Put some work into farming and less crying.
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It doesn't work like that. With a 2.33% drop rate there's a 70% chance that having killed 15 mobs you won't have any signs. There's a 30% chance you'll have at least 1 sign (possibly more).
 
Kill 29 mobs and there's a 50% chance you'll have at least one sign. If prices have jumped that much I'd get farming! Easy money.
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			No no no guys this cost is totally acceptable. I just got my convergence elder gem weapon for my esper and it came with three earth slots. So good. I can't wait to use 60 signs of logic eldan JUST to fix my piece of shit weapon. Carbine you are really doing an excellent job of making me not want to play your game anymore.	
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No no no guys this cost is totally acceptable. I just got my convergence elder gem weapon for my esper and it came with three earth slots. So good. I can't wait to use 60 signs of logic eldan JUST to fix my piece of shit weapon. Carbine you are really doing an excellent job of making me not want to play your game anymore.
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Don't be so negative and entitled.
 
If you get bad runes, you can refund the item and lose the restocking fee or keep it. You are not entitled to the additional option of spending a bare minimum 6(more like 10-12) plat in raw materials to reroll 3 rune slots, it is very fortunate that you'll be able to do that.
 
I have already spent a lot of gold on getting good rune slots. I only have 3 Runic Elemental Flux to buy, 7 at most. I'm really happy about the upgrade paths they'll open up for me though. Currently it takes a hell of an item to even be considered. 
 
I might get something mediocre later knowing there's a very slim chance of it becoming a BiS item through rerolls. Figure out that chance, multiply it by the cost of attempting it. Is that cost acceptable? Is total failure acceptable? 
Yes to both? The world is your oyster(potentially).
Welcome to gambling, just make plays that put you ahead and feel good about them, even if the result is failure.
 
It makes the items more significant, when currently the rune slots are running the show.
 
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This implementation is supposed to fix bad RNG. We are being punished, essentially, because of Carbine's mistakes.
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This.
Guess what, Thumbwarrior: Not everyone loves gambling! 
And what does the new system give us as droprates are right now? More high stakes gambling. Fantastic.  :mellow:
 
I was optimistic about it before the recipe was announced because I figured they couldn't possibly be foolish enough to make the rune system even more expensive (right now: unlock [for money] => buy materials [for money] => destroy [for money] when balancing is changed => buy materials [for money], soon we'll also have to add slots [for money] and reroll [for money]).
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			You guys also understand they are putting in more runes making the less useful slots more useful right?	
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You guys also understand they are putting in more runes making the less useful slots more useful right?
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