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This part is interesting, because one of the arguments I would like to use is that one of the things that makes the Dominion more evil is simply the population difference. When Exiles do something, it's on a smaller scale and affects less people and would therefore be considered less evil.  I know these two examples aren't equivalent but it's like comparing the Exiles spreading the plague in Auroria vs ravaging of Arboria. (If someone can think of 2 events that are more equivalent, feel free to bring it up). 
 
Exiles might not behave in the exact same way as the Dominion if they had more resources and population, but some stuff in Loremageddon I read lead me to believe they would commit acts that might be considered equivalent.
 
And on that note, Loremageddon makes me sad overall because it was the perfect opportunity to add more grey without changing the game itself but I feel like it mostly served to communicate that the Dominion is bad while the Exiles are good.
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Also this thread should really be called; 'So Dominion and Aurin...'
 
I especially love that comment of "the Exiles have the interesting and good looking races". Besides that being completely subjective (and laughable tbh), we all know the Exiles only actually have one race.
			
				
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Yeah, this thread totally isn't a comparison of the Exiles and the Dominion.  :rolleyes:
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So, when the Exiles burn a village to the ground because the inhabitants didn't give them what they wanted, it is simply the enacted "Join or die" speech the Dominion is so villainised for. "Do what we want or die." It is the same thing on a smaller scale. 
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So after 2 years you people are still going at it. A topic that's beaten to death in the Lore forums and has no solution/answer/whatsoever.....
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I'm sure I'm gonna get hounded for this later, but I don't remember any scenario in the game where the Exiles even offered the "Join or Die" choice. Like in the Auroria incident, I don't recall them bothering to do that with all the Lowborn farmers. They just went straight for biological warfare. I guess maybe they learned that from the Dominion with Arboria? Though that might work in their favor since the Dominion tends to bully people with the "Join or Die" speech anyway.
 
On another note, it looks some individuals of the playable races (I think I've seen representations of all of them) have allied with Marauders and Darkspur and not just that one example in Owanee Basin. The Gauntlet Expedition and the Crowe Gang in Algoroc are examples of this as well.
 
If I had a choice, I wouldn't ally with either Exile or Dominion and join up with the Freebots instead. Both sides are waaaaay too evil for my taste. Dominion just happened to be the faction with the races I liked the most.
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Freebots would be a good choice. Or Lopp. They have a nice tribal simplicity" going for them. But despite negative aspects, If I was to be honest, I'd probably opt for the Dominion. You figure, what they do is really no different than what modern western first world nations do. We take the resources of people who have less and use them for out benefit. We use bullying tactics to do it. These are rough truths but ultimately, those resources are used to make my quality of life better. And the size of the Dominion ensures that no one is going to be able to do it to us. Ensures it as much as it can be ensured anyways.
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I mean, I'm no psychotic murderer but if the way I played games reflected my real life values . . . ~cough~GTA~cough~ On the other hand, I also can't bear to be evil (within the choices given) in the Dragon Age universe. So I suppose it just depends on the game.
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Most reasonable people would admit that the Dominion would be considered more "evil" than the Exiles. At the very least, because on the scale the Dominion does things.  Bringing this up is like repeatedly saying "the sky is blue" over and over and over. 
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If the answer is "no", why should I bother trying to have a reasonable discussion with something who is either unwilling or unable to have a reasonable discussion?
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I have to ask though.
 
Who cares?
 
I get the arguments, and to a certain extent I agree with some of them (dominion is a lot darker grey than exiles, seem to be nasty for no reason).
 
What needs to be talked about is- HOW DO WE FIX IT.
 
Regardless of whatever argument, dominion is less appealing.  How do we make them better looking? How do we make people want to play them? How can we show the "good" sides?
 
Just the way the story is built and how it progressed is going to make the dominion look bad.  If they could write in some more stories that show them more of a roman empire type it would make it so much better.
 
Really the biggest issue I see with dominion is that it isn't really an "evil" faction.  It's not evil to BE evil.  They're just a-holes and jerks for no reason at all.  If the dominion was just flat out evil with no "good" side, I feel they would be a lot more popular than just a bunch of bullies.	
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Well, the short answer is "We (the players) likely can't fix it. It's not our problem to fix."
 
It's been said over and over, but most folks don't care about lore when they pick up a game. Only one thing matters. ONLY ONE FREAKING THING.
 
Which races look the best.
 
Period. That's it. Why do you think there are so many Aurin? And how many Aurin players have you heard say "I wish I could be a Warrior,/Engi/Medic but I can't, so I'll just be a Stalker/ESPer/Slinger." I've heard it over and over again. People will ALWAYS naturally gravitate to things that are cute, beautiful, exotic or intriguing. Blood Elves, Elin, Aurin, hell even Chua to a less extent ... just tons and tons of them in whatever game/faction they represent.
 
The Horde was dying. No one wanted to play an ugly-ass Orc, Troll, Tauren or Forsaken  - and what "saved" the Horde? FREAKING BLOOD ELVES.
 
In short, the only thing that will ever change the lopsided faction is for the Dominion to acquire a new race that is so freaking cute, beautiful, exotic or intriguing that players will be naturally drawn to them. Luminai come to mind immediately. Lopp, another possibility. And that's just in-game things we know about. Who's to say there aren't still races in the WildStar universe that Lore hasn't revealed yet?	
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Well, the short answer is "We (the players) likely can't fix it. It's not our problem to fix."
 
It's been said over and over, but most folks don't care about lore when they pick up a game. Only one thing matters. ONLY ONE FREAKING THING.
 
Which races look the best.
 
Period. That's it. Why do you think there are so many Aurin? And how many Aurin players have you heard say "I wish I could be a Warrior,/Engi/Medic but I can't, so I'll just be a Stalker/ESPer/Slinger." I've heard it over and over again. People will ALWAYS naturally gravitate to things that are cute, beautiful, exotic or intriguing. Blood Elves, Elin, Aurin, hell even Chua to a less extent ... just tons and tons of them in whatever game/faction they represent.
 
The Horde was dying. No one wanted to play an ugly-ass Orc, Troll, Tauren or Forsaken  - and what "saved" the Horde? FREAKING BLOOD ELVES.
 
In short, the only thing that will ever change the lopsided faction is for the Dominion to acquire a new race that is so freaking cute, beautiful, exotic or intriguing that players will be naturally drawn to them. Luminai come to mind immediately. Lopp, another possibility. And that's just in-game things we know about. Who's to say there aren't still races in the WildStar universe that Lore hasn't revealed yet?
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But that question has an answer Tex : CHUA
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What needs to be talked about is- HOW DO WE FIX IT.
 
Regardless of whatever argument, dominion is less appealing.  How do we make them better looking? How do we make people want to play them? How can we show the "good" sides?
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What would need to be fixed first and foremost is the way the dominion side handles npc player interaction. It's important for the player character to be the hero in the story, or if they are a villain or just darker character if need be but then because they either have their twisted reason for doing so or because they are put in a position they must. The dominion as an entity fits the former, but as a player character the game never gives you the feeling you are a paragon for the dominion way of doing things. Indeed where the exiles have you generally run and be hailed a hero for helping, the dominion gives you contempt and congratulates you on not having to be executed for your services. Notable exceptions but it is the general trend.
 
So nothing that can reasonably be done at this stage. 
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Yeah, after having played Dominion through twice, I can safely say that the "bad wrap" comes from the early Ellevar missions. The Dominion does some pretty treacherous stuff to those Pell, and even though the perp is "brought to justice" the damage is done. Deradune isn't nearly as bad, even with the Falkrin portion of "Dominion Diplomacy" ... but the Falkrin are creeps anyway, so it doesn't feel the same as poisoning helpful, friendly Pell for no good reason.
 
Once you hit Auroria, that awful feeling goes away. You're a hero there, doing heroic things. It's touch and go from zone to zone after that, but nothing REALLY AWFUL springs to mind after Ellevar.
 
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So building an entire statue for you in the village, giving you the hero title doesn't do it anymore these days or what?
 
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I must admit I thought Dominion were the evil side and Exile were the good I suppose it was the way the selection colors are.  Blue and Red and straight away it brought me to other games where normally the evil side is portrayed in the red selection color and the good guys are blue selection color. 
 
The only reason I went Exile was when I started I read a post that said that Dom is mainly the PvP side and Exile is mainly the PVE side, so I went with Exile as I never planned doing PvP.  But I was playing Dom during f2p beta and I thought the starting area's were alot better than the Exile side but when it went live and because of what I read and what classes I had played I wanted to go Stalker and for me I wanted a small Stalker so I went with Aurin, but they are not my fav race in the Exile side as I prefer Granok.	
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Technically they didn't really build a statue since it's a hologram, but that's details.
 
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I feel like my post was taken completely out of context, although Bytek seems to see what I was getting at :P
 
I'm a dominion player, but I like both factions. I don't think either are "evil" and I both think they do bad things. That was my opinion, that's all it was and that's all it meant. I don't know why people are arguing over it and calling me a sympathiser when I've pointed out I like both factions, but play dominion more :/	
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I totally agree that it's mostly the individuals that make The Exiles seem more good and The Dominion seem more evil than they actually are. But I also think the question here is not really good vs evil, it's freedom vs. order. Both are good things, but they are kinda on the two ends of a teeter. And most people like freedom better, because this is a game, and it supposed to be about doing what we want, so more of us find the rebels of the galaxy vibe more appealing than the rigid militaristic thing.
 
If the "evil" faction in a game would be a problem for people, not much people would like the sith either. But opposed to The Dominion, sith are about individual freedom in a way.	
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You know I just remember the most striking example of the dominion vs exiles wherein dominion is presented as being evil or flat out poorly presented as far as story setting goes
 
I was running through the Levian Bay area again (by far still the best ingame in terms of atmosphere and story) and near the end of the zone you have this medic tending the wounds of an aurin. While the aurin makes her out to be a dominion monster she explains he shouldn't buy into all the propaganda and she's just doing her duty as a medic to save a life and hand him over as a prisoner of war. There you have a perfectly made scene showing the dominion in a good light and the exiles in an ignorant and violent manner, somewhat justifying the dominion's actions.
 
She makes an apearance later in the game. How? The radiant legion took her captive and let's the player character decide to either execute her or have her spend life in prison. No trial no deliberation, virtuous indeed. More or less ruined that entire setup for a morally complex setting.	
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And I don't draw parallels to how WE act to "cause an emotional reaction", I do it to show the REAL themes and tropes the writers are weaving into the narrative, and how asinine it is to consider a faction that does not do anything worse then our own nation has or does as "evil". My comments are never based in drawing out emotional reactions, they are to provoke honest and serious thought.
 
Again, because it's still lost on so many:
 
"The main conflict in the game is between the Dominion, who believe their gods (the Eldan) granted them the galaxy to rule in the name of peace, law, and justice; and the Exiles, who have banded together to oppose them - or just survive. The Dominion isn't inherently evil and the Exiles aren't inherently good, they just have opposing beliefs about what's best for the universe, and they feel very strongly about it." - CRB HernCO
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You know I just remember the most striking example of the dominion vs exiles wherein dominion is presented as being evil or flat out poorly presented as far as story setting goes
 
I was running through the Levian Bay area again (by far still the best ingame in terms of atmosphere and story) and near the end of the zone you have this medic tending the wounds of an aurin. While the aurin makes her out to be a dominion monster she explains he shouldn't buy into all the propaganda and she's just doing her duty as a medic to save a life and hand him over as a prisoner of war. There you have a perfectly made scene showing the dominion in a good light and the exiles in an ignorant and violent manner, somewhat justifying the dominion's actions.
 
She makes an apearance later in the game. How? The radiant legion took her captive and let's the player character decide to either execute her or have her spend life in prison. No trial no deliberation, virtuous indeed. More or less ruined that entire setup for a morally complex setting.
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There is that one Aurin in Whitevale that gets set on fire by a Chua. >_>
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I'm not sure if it still happens, but I remember that if you stood around long enough there was a little bit of a dialogue between those two, where the Aurin points out that she is saving his life only for him to be tortured by the ISI.
 
They may have taken out that dialogue though (although it would remain true, of course, given the nature of the ISI).
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 :huh:
Last time I checked, the entire post contained the part I highlighted. I didn't quote the entire post because the only part that is required to disprove your point is the part I did quote.
And frankly, I consider stuff like this to be a very useful reality check. They allow me to assess a necessary precondition to having a reasonable discussion: when someone is shown to be irrefutably wrong about something, are they able/willing to back up, admit it, concede the point, and move on?
 
If the answer is "no", why should I bother trying to have a reasonable discussion with something who is either unwilling or unable to have a reasonable discussion?
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is there any option for a line like that being taken out of context when weighed against all the actual examples that come after it? So, we have one of two options, the poster intended to compare who was better or the poster didn't. The examples don't support poster trying to say who is better. The poster specifically states they were not doing it.
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			Do people even play dominon? I think they are all exile alts. 	
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Do people even play dominon? I think they are all exile alts. 
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I'm sure any Dominion citizen an Exile helped would get similar treatment as well. Blackhood base shows them torturing a Cassian just because they find it entertaining. Also just to be clear, I'm not arguing the Exiles are more evil with my previous two sentences. Just bringing up that this is one of the ways both factions behave similarly. Though I guess if people want to argue about it, feel free to get all nitpicky about it anyway.
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That's kina what I was thinking.  The Exile humans just show up and no Aurin has a thought as to why and what they are getting themselves into? 
 
Also, if the Ekose were a long standing culture, wouldn't the Aurin know about them?
 
Im level 20 so I haven't got through the whole game yet.  I'm paying attention to the story as best I can, so we'll see what I grasp in the next month or two.
 
I'm also gathering, from what many of you are saying, it just really boils down to perception from the standpoint of the exiles or dominion. 
 
 
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Thanks for the likes by the way.  I didn't think it was such a cut an dry that the Dominion are the evil bad guys.  I was going to pin the -evil- more so on the draken but found out they had their best warrior beaten by the Dominion, so like a Liege Lord, they serve the Dominion and see their continual battle against the Exiles the best way to serve their own bloodlusts and ruling houses.  The Chua, I keep seeing as the shock and awe method of the dominion.
 
I know how threads like this can devolve into banter, but you guys are better than that.  Hang in with me on this and don't get personal.
			
				
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I know how threads like this can devolve into banter, but you guys are better than that.  Hang in with me on this and don't get personal.
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Drakken you don't even need to retcon anything. Just say that one tribe switched sides because Drakken live for challenge, and the Dominion is the greatest foe anyone can fight.
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By contrast, everything that is known about the conflict between the Aurin and the Dominion indicates that if the Exiles lose, Aurins can at best look forward to eternal slavery and, more likely, genocide.
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Humans:  
Dominions are snotty "nobles" who want to rule everything, and justify it because their gods (who aren't ACTUALLY gods) told them it was okay.  The VERY FIRST mission you get on the Dommie ship involves depraved indifference to Dominion citizens, and they're willing to kill you outright if you've been tampered with. Have homeworld to return to.
Exiles are... cowboys, I guess?  Going on the second generation of people on the run from the Dominion.  They can either double down or die, apparently.
Draken:
Given a choice, they seem to favor making an area into a lifeless bone pit, and hunting anything/everything nearby.
Have homeworld to return to.
Chua:
Obviously racially psychotic, with absolutely no regard for anything but their own personal well-being, and not much of that?
Destroyed their home planet when given tech (by Dominion).
Mechari:
Murder bots, willing to genocide on orders.
Originally scout drones for Eldan.
Yes, they sound just DARLING.  I lumped the humans together.  Versus:
 
Mordesh:
Space zombies, forced to harvest life or turn into MINDLESS space zombies.  Pretty dark, and obviously willing to do whatever needs to be done to survive.  This probably involves nasty sabotage to Dominion.  What, they should fight them 1v1?
Dominion blockaded planet after zombie apocalypse.  Survivors effectively sentenced to death.
Exiles smuggle out survivors.  Survivors desire cure and to "thank" Dominion for sentencing them to death.
Unintentionally made homeworld uninhabitable.
Granok:
Declined to join Dominion and suggested they leave.  Smashed Mechari "ambassadors" after the ambassadors threatened them for declining.
Dominion declares war.  Dominion was winning with tech, some Granok stole/used tech and won.  This faction exiled from Gnox in thanks for saving the Granok race.
Exile faction of Granok not welcome on homeworld due to use of tech in securing homeworld.
Aurin:
People (Exiles) landed on garden planet Arboria and Aurin were nice to them.  Became friends.
Dominion found Exiles.
Dominion decided to destroy entire planet along with inhabitants.
Exiles smuggled out survivors, while Dominion continues to destroy a planet which is not a threat to them.
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Humans:  
Dominions are snotty "nobles" who want to rule everything, and justify it because their gods (who aren't ACTUALLY gods) told them it was okay.  The VERY FIRST mission you get on the Dommie ship involves depraved indifference to Dominion citizens, and they're willing to kill you outright if you've been tampered with. Have homeworld to return to.
Exiles are... cowboys, I guess?  Going on the second generation of people on the run from the Dominion.  They can either double down or die, apparently.
Draken:
Given a choice, they seem to favor making an area into a lifeless bone pit, and hunting anything/everything nearby.
Have homeworld to return to.
Chua:
Obviously racially psychotic, with absolutely no regard for anything but their own personal well-being, and not much of that?
Destroyed their home planet when given tech (by Dominion).
Mechari:
Murder bots, willing to genocide on orders.
Originally scout drones for Eldan.
Yes, they sound just DARLING.  I lumped the humans together.  Versus:
 
Mordesh:
Space zombies, forced to harvest life or turn into MINDLESS space zombies.  Pretty dark, and obviously willing to do whatever needs to be done to survive.  This probably involves nasty sabotage to Dominion.  What, they should fight them 1v1?
Dominion blockaded planet after zombie apocalypse.  Survivors effectively sentenced to death.
Exiles smuggle out survivors.  Survivors desire cure and to "thank" Dominion for sentencing them to death.
Unintentionally made homeworld uninhabitable.
Granok:
Declined to join Dominion and suggested they leave.  Smashed Mechari "ambassadors" after the ambassadors threatened them for declining.
Dominion declares war.  Dominion was winning with tech, some Granok stole/used tech and won.  This faction exiled from Gnox in thanks for saving the Granok race.
Not welcome on homeworld due to use of tech in securing homeworld.
Aurin:
People (Exiles) landed on garden planet Arboria and Aurin were nice to them.  Became friends.
Dominion found Exiles.
Dominion decided to destroy entire planet along with inhabitants.
Exiles smuggled out survivors, while Dominion continues to destroy a planet which is not a threat to them.
Homeworld currently... being destroyed by Dominion still?
 
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Do tell, what was the context in which the statement below does not in fact include a direct, deliberate, and unambiguous comparison between the Dominion and the Exiles?
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STOP TAKING MY POSTS OUT OF CONTEXT.
 
I didn't compare them AT ALL in the context you are trying to wiggle here. I said NEITHER of them are evil. That is my OPINION. I didn't once state it as fact or wanted someone to argue with me about it or be rude to me. But you and Ildur jumped on me like the biased idiots you are and bashed me for liking the dominion lore.
 
What the hell is wrong with you? Do you look for a fight in everything? Your snobbery is like... cassian level of snobbery dude.
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Your commentary about aurin is always such an intellectual boon, Mental Surge.
 
 
The context is that Bytek isn't interested in reaching an intellectually satisfactory conclusion. He's here to win the argument, so he doesn't have any problem with resorting to fallacies, non-existant evidence or hilarious and impossible to defend interpretations of actual evidence against it.
 
We have all been through this circus before.
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Apparently I threw a temper tantrum by having an opinion and LIKING the dominion. That's not allowed on these forums yknow.
 
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Will pay for a COGS affiliation so I can cuddle Mordesh as a Chua, go into a beer-drinking contest with a Granok as a Mechari or discuss plushies with Aurins as an Draken, while flipping the bird to politics, rivalry and fanatism.
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"Never get into a beer drinking contest with a Granok. Even if you're a Granok."
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Can Androids dream be intoxicated?
 
/inb4Mechari aren't Androids
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really, Tex? Do we have some kind of history that I am forgetting about? :huh:
 
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Heh. No. I'm sorry if it came off that way. I was mostly just poking good-natured fun at Yas. ;)
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STOP TAKING MY POSTS OUT OF CONTEXT.
 
I didn't compare them AT ALL in the context you are trying to wiggle here. I said NEITHER of them are evil. That is my OPINION. I didn't once state it as fact or wanted someone to argue with me about it or be rude to me. But you and Ildur jumped on me like the biased idiots you are and bashed me for liking the dominion lore.
 
What the hell is wrong with you? Do you look for a fight in everything? Your snobbery is like... cassian level of snobbery dude.
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I DID NOT say they were more evil... I said neither were evil. Read my post again. READ IT. I've already said how you've taken this out of context three times and you've ignored it each time.
 
"The dominion are evil about as much as the exile are"
 
That is stating that neither are evil :/
I even then went on to say that I think they both do bad things, but neither could be attributed to being "evil" or "bad"
 
And yes, I will use caps and call you a snob and apparently "go into hysterics" because it's like this in every single thread that you enter. You pick on someone and "call them out" when there is literally nothing to call out. 
 
I was just expressing my opinion. I was not saying it was fact. There is nothing to argue about, there is nothing for you to "win".
 
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You threw a temper tantrum by resorting to all manner of hysterics when your stated and still unretracted position that the Dominion was the lighter shade of grey was challenged.
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Lol that is a very biased way of looking at it. The Mordesh for example, were in danger of killing ALL KNOWN CIVILIZATION with the contagion. The Dominion did the right thing in quarantining their planet. The Granok war also started BECAUSE the granok killed the Dominion ambassadors for no real reason. Decline their offer and threaten them back, but don't just KILL THEM for sending a message. And as we have already discussed, the Dominion more than likely COULD have exterminated their entire species from orbit but didn't. For whatever reason, they opted not to commit genocide.
 
Funny how you claim that the Draken are so savage and hostile, in yet I'm pretty sure the granok only exist to kill things and get drunk. Draken actually do have a strict code of honor.  
 
I'm also pretty sure that the Chua did not intentionally make their planet uninhabitable. Yes, they were directly responsible for it for their actions, but making the planet itself uninhabitable was obviously nothing but an unfortunate side effect. Hence why they joined the Dominion as they needed to leave their planet. Damn, that sounds kind of familiar, doesn't it?
 
Also not sure if you are aware but Mechari are not simply 'bots'. They are truly sentient just like any other race.
 
And the Dominion attacked the Aurin because they were working with terrorists. If you want to blame anyone, then blame the Exiles for leading the Dominion straight to them, and making them a target. And how is Arboria not a potential threat to them if it's the Aurin home world? 
 
 
More to the point though, the issue I believe, is with how the factions are presented. The Dominion just appear to be stereotypical villains, despite there being so much more to it, and so much potential. There's no reason whatsoever the Dominion's lore and possible justifications for their actions couldn't be shown. The idea that someone presented earlier of the Empire itself being corrupt in the absence of the emperor for example, would not only justify many of the actions we have seen, but also add another layer of depth to the faction. I keep bringing this up but a perfect example is the F2P trailer. The Dominion appear to be generic villains and of course they received little to no spotlight. 
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Can you be more specific, they all look the same.
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The Dominion never targeted the Aurin for eradication. They targeted Arboria for resource harvesting, Aurin were irrelevant and mostly just collateral damage they had to justify.
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I DID NOT say they were more evil... I said neither were evil. Read my post again. READ IT. I've already said how you've taken this out of context three times and you've ignored it each time.
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I am now 100% convinced that Espy and Yas are the same person. :lol: :P ;)
 
(I kid, I kid)
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Texperfan would be an unstoppable force if only we could all agree on anything.  :lol:
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Texperfan would be an unstoppable force if only we could all agree on anything.  :lol:
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Let's look at that phrase, because Sylqt is having problems analysing it syntactically. Since I don't know how you english speakers call each thing, I'm going to try to brute force it. Let's see...
 
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They aren't "evil" as much as the exiles are.
 
 
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They aren't "evil" as much as the exiles are.
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Why does my really innocent post just replying to the stupid thread get picked apart by idiots.
 
I used the wrong word, so sue me.
 
Everyone KNEW what I meant.	
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Well they should have realised I used the wrong word when I went to explain what I meant, right?
 
But those posts got ignored. So w/e
 
I still don't understand why it was my post that was singled out by the "no you can't think the dominion are good" crew.
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Well they should have realised I used the wrong word when I went to explain what I meant, right?
 
But those posts got ignored. So w/e
 
I still don't understand why it was my post that was singled out by the "no you can't think the dominion are good" crew.	
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Even worse, it's just my opinion, I didn't put it there in a provocative or rude fashion. There's nothing to argue about. 
 
Nothing they say is going to change my mind on my view of the factions, whether it's "omg factual" or not.
 
Just so petty.	
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Why does my really innocent post just replying to the stupid thread get picked apart by idiots.
I used the wrong word, so sue me.
Everyone KNEW what I meant.
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And harvesting an occupied planet for resources, when the planet is no longer a threat?  This is somehow justifiable because of past actions that might have been committed when not in possession of all the facts?
 
I call bull.  The Dominion is evil, or close enough to make no difference.  They act with depraved indifference (or worse) to EVERYONE, from their own citizens, on to every other thing in the galaxy, and justify it with "manifest destiny" type reasoning.
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Well they should have realised I used the wrong word when I went to explain what I meant, right?
 
But those posts got ignored. So w/e
 
I still don't understand why it was my post that was singled out by the "no you can't think the dominion are good" crew.
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The reason I got rude is because my post was completely innocent, nothing provocative, nothing rude, just simply a few words in response to the OP.
 
The fact that I was spoken to in such OTT snobbery, completely picking apart what I said something for no other reason than disagreement, and going on to call me stupid?
 
I'm not very good at grammar, I'm sorry. Some people aren't, and I think all my posts summed up what I meant pretty well. I meant what I meant, I just used the wrong SINGLE WORD to express it.
 
I've got plenty of responses telling me what I said was perfectly reasonable. I'm just sick of getting attacked on these forums for no reason, it's completely a turn off to actually wanting to participate in a discussion.
 
Oh, and I have done everything I can for the last few months to not get into one of these circular arguments with people like you Yasfan, because it's just not worth it. Congrats, write down on your little note "i won vs sylqt cus shes so dumb" if it makes you feel better.
			
				
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The reason I got rude is because my post was completely innocent, nothing provocative, nothing rude, just simply a few words in response to the OP.
 
The fact that I was spoken to in such OTT snobbery, completely picking apart what I said something for no other reason than disagreement, and going on to call me stupid?
 
I'm not very good at grammar, I'm sorry. Some people aren't, and I think all my posts summed up what I meant pretty well. I meant what I meant, I just used the wrong SINGLE WORD to express it.
 
I've got plenty of responses telling me what I said was perfectly reasonable. I'm just sick of getting attacked on these forums for no reason, it's completely a turn off to actually wanting to participate in a discussion.
 
Oh, and I have done everything I can for the last few months to not get into one of these circular arguments with people like you Yasfan, because it's just not worth it. Congrats, write down on your little note "i won vs sylqt cus shes so dumb" if it makes you feel better.
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Well they should have realised I used the wrong word when I went to explain what I meant, right?
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That's how they have to win arguments, picking apart on spelling cause they apparently can't think for 5 minutes that they might not be dealing with native speakers of the English language.
 
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			But I did explain what I meant, just for that post to be completely ignored lol...	
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Bias?
 
Fact:  One exile starter area has a big mecha-tree that's getting ready to spill all the Eldans secrets, potentially curing all Mordesh.  Dominion (mostly Chua) response?  Blow up tree.
 
Fact: There are zero non-Mordesh contagion zombies.
 
Fact:  Draken areas in-game are bare dirt, bones and fire.  Aurin areas in game (before they're lit on fire by Chua) are green, trees, and plant stuff.
 
You just stated that the Dominion aren't evil because they didn't commit genocide.  They didn't exterminate a species from orbit, they simply went in on the ground, so that makes them NOT evil?  They weren't going in with cake, and if they had LEFT THEM ALONE, the Granok would have been perfectly happy to stay on the one planet indefinitely.
 
And harvesting an occupied planet for resources, when the planet is no longer a threat?  This is somehow justifiable because of past actions that might have been committed when not in possession of all the facts?
 
I call bull.  The Dominion is evil, or close enough to make no difference.  They act with depraved indifference (or worse) to EVERYONE, from their own citizens, on to every other thing in the galaxy, and justify it with "manifest destiny" type reasoning.
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But I did explain what I meant, just for that post to be completely ignored lol...
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