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			Hi. I have read some news on mmorpg.com that the financial state of the game is extremely bad and that NCsoft might be shutting it down soon.I would like to know if this is true and if it is worth sinking time and money into the game.I have purchased this game before the free to play transition but only now I got a decent graphics cards so I am giving it another go, but these news really concern me.Thanks for all the replies!UPDATE: I left the fears aside and I am playing and having fun. YOLO!  :lol:
			
				
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You don't need to sink money in because the F2P model is very forgiving, and if you're having fun playing it you're not losing anything if it closes.	
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You don't need to sink money in because the F2P model is very forgiving, and if you're having fun playing it you're not losing anything if it closes.
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			Thing is, I have been burned with City of Heroes and it left me a sour taste with how NCSoft did it, hence my worries with the game now.And what about that Steam release, is this true?That might help and bring people to the game as all my friends dont play any game if its not on steam.	
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I see nothing in there with actual news heralding some mystical "shut down" of WildStar - just speculation and claims from a couple supposed employees.
 
What we do know, however, is that new content is on track for drop 7. Take that as you will, but I'd prefer if the doomsaying went away.	
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Hi. I have read some news on mmorpg.com that the financial state of the game is extremely bad and that NCsoft might be shutting it down soon.
 
I would like to know if this is true and if it is worth sinking time and money into the game.
 
I have purchased this game before the free to play transition but only now I got a decent graphics cards so I am giving it another go, but these news really concern me.
 
Thanks for all the replies!
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You don't need to sink money in because the F2P model is very forgiving, and if you're having fun playing it you're not losing anything if it closes.
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Don't forget that Wildstar is launching in China soon.
 
Wildstar's future is uncertain, but it's certainly far from grim.	
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I have seen 0 actual news that has said this - only people with their own theories.
 
In fact the most recent news is talking about upcoming additional content that is going to be added to the game, and its migration to steam.  Honestly, I love the game and have a ton of fun!
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http://massivelyop.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/sales.jpg
 
It's very had to see a good outcome for Wildstar when you look at how poorly it performs compared to NCSoft's other titles, especially when you consider NCSoft has already killed one MMO (City of Heroes). But even in-spite of that I'm new to the game and have been enjoying myself so far. The core gameplay is extremely fun, the animations are great and the art style is pleasing to the eye (for me at least). It feels like such a good MMO that I've yet to truly grasp just why this game makes so little money.
 
Hopefully with the upcoming launch on Steam the game will be able to grasp and hold a large enough population to justify (at the very least) the upkeep costs for maintaining the game.	
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http://massivelyop.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/sales.jpg
 
It's very had to see a good outcome for Wildstar when you look at how poorly it performs compared to NCSoft's other titles, especially when you consider NCSoft has already killed one MMO (City of Heroes). But even in-spite of that I'm new to the game and have been enjoying myself so far. The core gameplay is extremely fun, the animations are great and the art style is pleasing to the eye (for me at least). It feels like such a good MMO that I've yet to truly grasp just why this game makes so little money.
 
Hopefully with the upcoming launch on Steam the game will be able to grasp and hold a large enough population to justify (at the very least) the upkeep costs for maintaining the game.
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http://massivelyop.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/sales.jpg
 
It's very had to see a good outcome for Wildstar when you look at how poorly it performs compared to NCSoft's other titles, especially when you consider NCSoft has already killed one MMO (City of Heroes). But even in-spite of that I'm new to the game and have been enjoying myself so far. The core gameplay is extremely fun, the animations are great and the art style is pleasing to the eye (for me at least). It feels like such a good MMO that I've yet to truly grasp just why this game makes so little money.
 
Hopefully with the upcoming launch on Steam the game will be able to grasp and hold a large enough population to justify (at the very least) the upkeep costs for maintaining the game.
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			I can tell what happen at around late 2014, they lessen the reward for dungeons when you get gold. Naturally there were rages and you can guess what happen next. The issue is probably fixed when it went F2P which is around Q3 2015. So I would take the doom sayers shut down fact as useless. Most probably WOW nerds who are worried wildstar is taking players away from WOW as the art is almost the same. 	
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			So gossip.	
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			I hope ws stays around for a long time. But at times all those rumors makes it look like city of heroes all over again. NCsoft shut down their servers even tho there were plans for new content. It's a business, ncsoft will go where the money making leads.	
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I've said my piece on another post, so I won't rehash it here.  What I will say is that my attitude is to enjoy this game for what it is (while still recognising its shortcomings) while the servers are still running.  That might be a month, it might be a year, it might be a decade (or even longer) but I can't foresee the future (particularly where NCsoft is concerned) so there's no point worrying about it.  I don't invest time in this game to get l33t loot and have chosen just to use it as a bit of fun, and in doing so I haven't 'wasted' time any more than if I were playing Lego Batman.
 
Having said that, I hope the Steam and Chinese releases (and the next big update) will bring in a slew of players and consequently a substantial new stream of revenue into the cash shop.	
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Whoa that drop from 20k to 1.7k! What happened ?
 
And yes those numbers reinforce my worries because of that.
 
I really do hope the steam release helps things up. I am gonna play the game and try not to think about, though I will probably hold on purchases until this matter is more clear or when the game releases on steam.
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			Less doom and gloom about what might happen, more playing !	
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			yes / no ....maybe / not yet	
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Hi. I have read some news on mmorpg.com that the financial state of the game is extremely bad and that NCsoft might be shutting it down soon.
I would like to know if this is true and if it is worth sinking time and money into the game.
I have purchased this game before the free to play transition but only now I got a decent graphics cards so I am giving it another go, but these news really concern me.
 
Thanks for all the replies!
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Yeah... Just play. It's free. It won't shut down any time soon (launching in China, news of Steam release soon, and big patches coming up means that they are making money on it and foresee it to continue to do so.)
 
Any economic forecasts are using outdated trends from pre-f2p that have no bearing on the current state of the game.	
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and big patches coming up means that they are making money on it and foresee it to continue to do so.
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			Compared to that other game, this game has a future....that other game needs to be shut down and revised....	
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Is the sun dying? Of course it is..............in about a forecast three billion years or so. I may be a little short or long on that.
 
Point is, new content being added, Steam/China release......I don't see that happening any time soon. If it's an op-ed piece for any "gaming journalist", I'd take that with several barrels of salt, because, well, I question the objectivity of any "gaming" journalist, which in many cases are little more than bloggers who happen to have a reputation on a major gaming website and too much time on their hands.	
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I hate to be a debbie downer, but if the 4Q look bad then I don't really see how the games revenue could increase in the upcoming months and years.  I'm mean usually a game gets huge initial boost from F2P, but if we see just a minimal gain, then I don't really see how WS can keep running.
 
Look at BnS it already has a million active users (unique logins) in less than a month and seems to be doing really well; eventhough, I find it to be a ehh with just arena PvP.	
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I hate to be a debbie downer, but if the 4Q look bad then I don't really see how the games revenue could increase in the upcoming months and years.  I'm mean usually a game gets huge initial boost from F2P, but if we see just a minimal gain, then I don't really see how WS can keep running.
 
Look at BnS it already has a million active users (unique logins) in less than a month and seems to be doing really well; eventhough, I find it to be a ehh with just arena PvP.
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			lol. its funny, people said f2p was gonna be what saved ws, but evidently that wasn't enough. now everyone is saying its gonna be steam that saves us or china release, or drop 7 etc... it been going on for awhile. when blade and sould launched na the game was really quiet for awhile. all i know is, i'm gonna keep playing as long as i'm having fun and the servers are up. it's just funny how people always say this or that is gonna be the thing that "saves" wildstar. ncsofts own projections have ws income dropping to 0 during 2016. well see what happens	
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			That was not a Ncsoft forecast btw 	
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			Choc Bonbon seems to be a bad troll. Please stop paying attention to him.	
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			Well suffice to say signs point to longevity given the BIG things going on with Wildstar in the early year. So I think personally you're pretty safe in investing in the game.	
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Choc Bonbon seems to be a bad troll. Please stop paying attention to him.
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Atm it feels like we need the patch badly, and soon.
However, it's also important that the patch deliver quite polished content.. too many bugs has hurt the game before. 
As a preparation for patch, however, a good idea would be double xp event. Give people opportunity to level up chars and/or alts while waiting for patch.	
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That was not a Ncsoft forecast btw 
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I might be many things but I am not trolling.
 
My concern is genuine because I tend to invest a lot of time and money on the game I am enjoying playing. Problem here is that whilst I am enjoying a bit of Wildstar, I do not want to keep playing it as a free to play player, I want to get a sub and buy some items from cash shop, farm achievements, etc.. and I simply cant do that whilst in the back of my mind the future is uncertain.
 
I mean, its psychological really, any game can shut down at any time for some reasons without our control, but at least we wouldnt be playing it WITH that back thought of danger, which is not the case here. I play it with this back thought all the time... and it kinda prevents me to get more emotionally and financially attached to the game.
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I might be many things but I am not trolling.
 
My concern is genuine because I tend to invest a lot of time and money on the game I am enjoying playing. Problem here is that whilst I am enjoying a bit of Wildstar, I do not want to keep playing it as a free to play player, I want to get a sub and buy some items from cash shop, farm achievements, etc.. and I simply cant do that whilst in the back of my mind the future is uncertain.
 
I mean, its psychological really, any game can shut down at any time for some reasons without our control, but at least we wouldnt be playing it WITH that back thought of danger, which is not the case here. I play it with this back thought all the time... and it kinda prevents me to get more emotionally and financially attached to the game.
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Yes, so is:
WoW
RIFT
ESO
RoM
Allods
Skyforge
Swtor
LotroEQ
EQ2
(every other mmo)
 
Will it shut down anytime soon? Probably not	
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I see nothing in there with actual news heralding some mystical "shut down" of WildStar - just speculation and claims from a couple supposed employees.
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I'm thinking that these posts were made on mmorpg right after they didn't get invited to the press conference ;D That and they're overall pretty grim about any mmo out there that the news writers aren't fantarding about.
 
Why just not install the game, play it and enjoy it while it lasts, be it a few more months or many more years to come.	
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			I think it's too late to save the game, might as well start setting up for the end by fixing pvp and gear progression	
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Lets see there is the China launch and I heard that Wildstar is coming to Steam. So more publicity for them. Honestly that's what they needed. This game has like NO advertising. The only reason I knew about this game was because I saw a random youtube vid about it just before Beta hit. For some reason it never gets talked about like the other MMOs and gets quietly shuffled away. I go to a game store and ask for a WoW and FF14 time card and I get one instantly. I asked for a Wildstar time card and they apparently only had them the first month before pulling them from the shelves. Like what kind of crap is that for your game? 
 
I will say what I said to my friends. Just play the game like it will be here tomorrow. However others have said you should worry if the China launch bombs. Really that does make sense too.	
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Lets see there is the China launch and I heard that Wildstar is coming to Steam. So more publicity for them. Honestly that's what they needed. This game has like NO advertising. The only reason I knew about this game was because I saw a random youtube vid about it just before Beta hit. For some reason it never gets talked about like the other MMOs and gets quietly shuffled away. I go to a game store and ask for a WoW and FF14 time card and I get one instantly. I asked for a Wildstar time card and they apparently only had them the first month before pulling them from the shelves. Like what kind of crap is that for your game? 
 
I will say what I said to my friends. Just play the game like it will be here tomorrow. However others have said you should worry if the China launch bombs. Really that does make sense too.
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<glares at avatar>
 
The Q4 2015 report is not out yet. Here's hoping there has been a bump to the positive for Wildstar. If not, I'm inclined to agree with you, dirty Buckeye fan or not. :P
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			The internet always says every MMO is dying or dead. Ignore the internet. It knows nothing of this.	
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Game might not be shutting down soon but it sure isn't in a healthy state.
There are tons of aknowledged bugs that they aren't even planning to address. To cite few: quest related bugs, social features not being available unless you reload ui has been around long before f2p yet they haven't done anything about it, Daggerstone has always been broken like hell, Carbine's position on Winterfest bug preventing ppl to complete their achievements was: we know about it, won't do anaything this year tho. Challanges showing random money rewards, from zero copper up to 70 gold, display bugs in general have been an issue since f2p.They ain't even taking care of the store anymore, I wanted to buy a 2nd trask mount since I really like it on my esper but apparently it disappeared and cannot be bought anymore. Major issues like pvp raiting and titles being given out randomly on logging in won't get addressed neither.
 
Contents like seasonal events, Arcterra and Redmoon were all developed, if only in rough state, before 2014 launch and then got postponed due to fixing the live game. 
Now that there are so little ppl left at Carbine I hardly believe they'll be able to make brand new quality contents, what we'll get instead will be things like Sim-Chase to boost Store sales while they finish to work on old contents that were already in development well before most of Crbn's staff got fired.
 
So, the game won't shot down this year or next one but we'll have to suck it up and deal with bugs, 4+ months drop for little contents, patches that break more things than they fix and so on.	
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Game might not be shutting down soon but it sure isn't in a healthy state.
There are tons of aknowledged bugs that they aren't even planning to address. To cite few: quest related bugs, social features not being available unless you reload ui has been around long before f2p yet they haven't done anything about it, Daggerstone has always been broken like hell, Carbine's position on Winterfest bug preventing ppl to complete their achievements was: we know about it, won't do anaything this year tho. Challanges showing random money rewards, from zero copper up to 70 gold, display bugs in general have been an issue since f2p.They ain't even taking care of the store anymore, I wanted to buy a 2nd trask mount since I really like it on my esper but apparently it disappeared and cannot be bought anymore. Major issues like pvp raiting and titles being given out randomly on logging in won't get addressed neither.
 
Contents like seasonal events, Arcterra and Redmoon were all developed, if only in rough state, before 2014 launch and then got postponed due to fixing the live game. 
Now that there are so little ppl left at Carbine I hardly believe they'll be able to make brand new quality contents, what we'll get instead will be things like Sim-Chase to boost Store sales while they finish to work on old contents that were already in development well before most of Crbn's staff got fired.
 
So, the game won't shot down this year or next one but we'll have to suck it up and deal with bugs, 4+ months drop for little contents, patches that break more things than they fix and so on.
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Hey sir,
Trask Mount wasn't listed as a limited time offer, in fact I waited almost a month after they got released for buying mine. Neither I heard any announcement of them being removed like they did with the old Madame Fly's rewards.
As for the Winterfest bug, here is the source: https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/148318-that-snowbot-bugged/
In case you wonder, I didn't get my achievement.
 
Redmoon was first datamined a bit after original launch:
https://www.reddit.com/r/WildStar/comments/2fj5k9/datamined_red_moon_terror_new_raid/
 
 
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You mean it actually takes longer than a month to make the epic raids and boss encounters we have in Wildstar....oh gosh I never knew that 
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			You mean it actually takes longer than a month to make the epic raids and boss encounters we have in Wildstar....oh gosh I never knew that 	
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If only the horse could speak......wait
 
			WILDSTAR: STATE OF THE GAME				Written by Chad "Pappy" Moore on February 08, 2016
		
					TWITTER					Hey everyone! The last year has been a busy one for all of us here at Carbine. Not only have we released three major content updates for WildStar since last winter (Mystery of the Genesis Prime, the Protogames Initiative, and INVASION: Nexus), we also transitioned to a free-to-play game in September. Add to that two major holiday events with Shade's Eve and Winterfest, and an ongoing cavalcade of in-game events like Space Chase, Sim-Chase and the Boss Hunter Challenge—, and I'd say that it's been a great year for WildStar. Plus, I finally got my Spider-Rider mount from Madame Fay, so my life is now complete.	But we've got an even better year coming up. First and foremost, I wanted to let all of you know that I am now the Game Director of WildStar. That means that I’m the person ensuring that we continue to make the awesome game we have been, as well as leading the charge to make it even better as we look toward the future. As you might know, I’ve been working on WildStar for a long time. I love this game, this universe, and the dedicated players that make up our incomparably amazing community. We’ve had our successes, and we’ve had our challenges, but Carbine's dedication to the game has never once faltered and we remain as committed as ever. I consider it a privilege to lead this talented team as we head into the game’s exciting future.	And what does the future look like? Two words: more content! As you’re hopefully already aware, we just announced our next update—Destination Arcterra—and it’s chock full of awesome stuff. Most importantly, this update includes Arcterra itself, a brand new max-level zone that features unique design mechanics, great rewards, eye-popping art, and an epic storyline. In my opinion, this is the best zone that we have ever developed, and I can’t wait for all of you to be able to check it out. Even more exciting (especially for me), this update will also include the second chapter in the Nexus Saga—Vault of the Archon. Like the first chapter (Journey into OMNICore-1) this exciting adventure features different gameplay mechanics, cool boss encounters, fully voiced NPCs, and jaw-dropping cinematics. And my favorite part is that this will be the first story-based instance that’s multiplayer. Similar to Expeditions, you can either choose to play it solo, or grab up to five people and experience this new content together. All of this content will soon be released on the PTR, and will launch as soon as we’re happy with it.  In addition, we’ll also be hosting a number of in-game events throughout the Destination Arcterra timeframe focused on enhancing (and rewarding) participation in this brand new content, while at the same offering cool new store items, and expanding our current catalog to have both character- and account-bound choices.	But the cool stuff doesn’t end there. Coming up in future releases we have more exciting content that will take players to new places on planet Nexus – and beyond! Later this year players will find themselves in the Halon Ring, an asteroid belt around planet Nexus that is home to outlaws, marauders, and other unsavory individuals. Anything can happen in the Halon Ring, and it probably will. And speaking of marauders, we just announced that the next major raid in WildStar will be the Redmoon Terror. This is an incredible new raid, and although it won’t be going live with Destination Arcterra, we want to get some early testing of it done during the Arcterra PTR so we can get lots of feedback from our dedicated raiding community before its release. We’re also working on a brand new Expedition (super cool and creepy!) as well as the Item Upgrades system, which will enable players to make their gear even more powerful. Lastly we’re taking a close look at PvP, and are working on a number of initiatives to improve the overall experience for our players, along with incenting more participation in both instanced and open-world PvP. This is just a sneak peek at WildStar’s roadmap and what’s coming up in the future, so keep an eye out for lots more info in the coming weeks and months.	We’re also continuing to work with our partner Giant Interactive to bring WildStar to China, where we just recently went into closed beta. We’re getting some great feedback from everyone playing there, and we’re looking forward to a successful launch later on this year.	Obviously, there’s a lot to be excited about as we look ahead to WildStar’s future, and I’m glad that we’ve been able to share it all with you. I’d like to close by saying thanks to all of the WildStar fans out there who have been with us since the beginning, and also a thanks (and welcome!) to those just now coming to check it out for the first time. It might go without saying, but all of the hard work, passion, and creativity that the WildStar team pours into this game is because of all of you—and I feel lucky to be a part of it. I also want all of you to know that one of my primary goals as WildStar's Game Director is to make sure that we are always communicating with you. For me, making great games has always been about the dialogue between devs and players. Personally, I'm looking forward to continuing the conversation.	- Chad “Pappy” Moore			
 	
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			You see, these dev letters dont mean much, because with City of Heroes, the devs gave an interview ( http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/3/feature/6634/Issue-24-with-Matt-Miller.html/page/1 ) talking about the planned stuff, additions to the game, new patches, etc... and 4 weeks later the game shut down.So yeah...	
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You see, these dev letters dont mean much, because with City of Heroes, the devs gave an interview ( http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/3/feature/6634/Issue-24-with-Matt-Miller.html/page/1 ) talking about the planned stuff, additions to the game, new patches, etc... and 4 weeks later the game shut down.
 
So yeah...
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And the dev letters of other games that haven't been shut down don't mean anything?
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			Guess it's because I'm not a sentimentalist.  I played WoW for a while, had some exclusive/hard to obtain stuff, and when it wasn't fun for me anymore I quit, sold all my crap, dumped the gold in my guild's bank, and deleted all my toons.  Did the same with RIFT, though I didn't have a guild, so I just gave my Plat to some low level guy that was just starting out.  I didn't see any point in staying with something I didn't like.  OTOH, even though I knew WAR was going down the drain I stayed with it as long as I could and had fun with it until the end.  There are ways to support W* that won't dip into your own wallet, buy CREDD with Plat, trade Plat for NCoins ingame.   You can get what you want from the game and still be supporting it indirectly without hurting your own financials.
			
				
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			just because its coming out on steam doesn't mean anything .. look at eldevin (actually a good game ) released on steam still only has a player base of 120-150 due to its eq1 graphics it gets over looked also long wait times til devs update... also alganon was a decent wow alternative that had all of maybe 100 players left so it died .. was released on steam still no change zones are literally emptynot like they claim wildstar is .. I can log in on wildstar even on pvpserver and see many other players where alganon youcan go months before you might see 1 player....just cause game is coming to steam doesn't mean we  ll get a shipment of new players... our biggest con right now is wildstars bad rap .. devs need to fix bugs and roll out regular content updates and patches that fix issues ad hacking detection to help combat bots and do some dame advertising again... I remember when wildstar first came out you d see commercials same with rift etc .... they really need to do some kinda advertising and show case the new content and get ppl back into being interested because in all honest the pure mechanics and gameplay of WS are someof the most fun I have ever had in an mmo in a long time .. maybe work on adding a new class or race ... just something to get it relevant again... also I have heard a lot of complaints that the game still needs optimizing for amd fx chipsets and a little more tweaking to get better fps on lower end machines .. look at wow granted its not the greatest looking mmo  out there but graphics wise it does look good and most ALL pcs can handle raiding on it even  ones right off a walmart store shelf without adding a 200-500 $ card .... all in all NCsoft or CRB needs to get some ads out there and get the game rolling again	
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Hey sir,
Trask Mount wasn't listed as a limited time offer, in fact I waited almost a month after they got released for buying mine. Neither I heard any announcement of them being removed like they did with the old Madame Fly's rewards.
As for the Winterfest bug, here is the source: https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/148318-that-snowbot-bugged/
In case you wonder, I didn't get my achievement.
 
Redmoon was first datamined a bit after original launch:
https://www.reddit.com/r/WildStar/comments/2fj5k9/datamined_red_moon_terror_new_raid/
 
 
 
No, as you can easly understand by my post I mean exactly the opposite. It takes a lot of time and efforts, and manpower.
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			After much inner debating I am going to dive into the game and purchase a couple months sub again and see how it goes. :)I will be on the PVE European server with a character of this same name.Thanks guys!	
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Hey Choc,
 
you are doing the right thing here ;) Welcome to the game!
 
Enjoy your time and when it all comes to an end, then you have at least some beautiful memories.
 
"Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all" - with this guideline everything is just an awesome adventure in your life ;)	
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Hey Choc,
 
you are doing the right thing here ;) Welcome to the game!
 
Enjoy your time and when it all comes to an end, then you have at least some beautiful memories.
 
"Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all" - with this guideline everything is just an awesome adventure in your life ;)
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			your money is always well spent if you spend it on something you enjoy.  longevity or not, the game is a blast and if you have fun playing it, why not spend a little money on things you like.  the f2p model is generous and if you really are not thinking about sinking in a bunch of $$, dont.  you will still be able to enjoy the game, but you may affect that longevity thing.  welcome to nexus!	
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Whoa that drop from 20k to 1.7k! What happened ?
 
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Thing is, I have been burned with City of Heroes and it left me a sour taste with how NCSoft did it, hence my worries with the game now.
 
And what about that Steam release, is this true?
 
That might help and bring people to the game as all my friends dont play any game if its not on steam.
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Saw the stream a few days ago
 
I believe Arctera is their "do or gone" content and extending to China might help as well
 
Will it work?? Don't know, have to find out :)
 
Those reports from MMorpg if legit don't feel good either
 
Fingers crossed	
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I believe Arctera is their "do or gone" content and extending to China might help as well
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			When is ncsoft quarter report for q4? Should be pretty soon right? It will be interesting read, also since random people on internet are speculating in Wildstar being the first mmo that didn't increase profit in their f2p-transition, hopefully that report would prove them wrong, if not it might scare people into game being dead or soon to die :/	
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People literally said this about drop 6, too... When are y'all gonna admit that the game may not be huge, but it isn't going anywhere? xD
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			http://global.ncsoft.com/global/ir/earnings.aspx	
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When is ncsoft quarter report for q4? Should be pretty soon right? It will be interesting read, also since random people on internet are speculating in Wildstar being the first mmo that didn't increase profit in their f2p-transition, hopefully that report would prove them wrong, if not it might scare people into game being dead or soon to die :/
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*looks at the 2015 Q4 earnings report*
 
Considering this game is now back to 1 dead server per region it's even more laughable  :D
			
				
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			I'm not sure what's wrong with the report. From what I can see, WS is back up above what it was in Q1 of last year, which to me seems like a good thing.	
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The real problem is part people left for Blade and soul, then the biggest problem, Black Desert release in 3 weeks (and they already sold ~300,000 copies as pure pre-order, and preorder didnt even finish yet, so huge amount of players are going there).
Some Time after Black Desert also coming few other promising MMOs, no need to name them all now.
 
WildStar was in very bad shape with all the bugs and glitches, players losing money on resets, not been given any complensations,etc.
 
TLDR:
Wildstars own problems, game wise and financial wise, plus great new MMOs that are right now being released cause the main problem of this game, a POPULATION LOSS.	
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I'm not sure what's wrong with the report. From what I can see, WS is back up above what it was in Q1 of last year, which to me seems like a good thing.
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The real problem is ...[cut]
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As though we need any more evidence that some people are just going to be negative no matter what. >_<
 
WS improved. This is a good sign. It's actually higher than it's been since its launch quarter.
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The real problem is part people left for Blade and soul, then the biggest problem, Black Desert release in 3 weeks (and they already sold ~300,000 copies as pure pre-order, and preorder didnt even finish yet, so huge amount of players are going there).
Some Time after Black Desert also coming few other promising MMOs, no need to name them all now.
 
WildStar was in very bad shape with all the bugs and glitches, players losing money on resets, not been given any complensations,etc.
 
TLDR:
Wildstars own problems, game wise and financial wise, plus great new MMOs that are right now being released cause the main problem of this game, a POPULATION LOSS.
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People literally said this about drop 6, too... When are y'all gonna admit that the game may not be huge, but it isn't going anywhere? xD
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			Well, with the recent news of merges to a single server, this is scaring me. A lot. :/	
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Well, with the recent news of merges to a single server, this is scaring me. A lot. :/
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Well, with the recent news of merges to a single server, this is scaring me. A lot. :/
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Well, with the recent news of merges to a single server, this is scaring me. A lot. :/
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Im new to Wildstar, and this game is awesome, I like it a lot. I see a lot of low level players or same lvl like me (10-ish) on EU PvE, running around doing quests, so If I were to guess, the population is slowly growing, but as mentioned before, Wildstar has small to non advertising. I knew about wildstar becuase of the first hype on launch, and I touched it only now, when its F2P.
 
Steam will only help to raise the playerbase, and it will easily take the spot on number 1 F2P mmorpg, because its quiet similiar to WoW and has the most fair ingame shop I have ever seen in an F2P mmorpg, But first, Devs must try to fix as much bugs as they can before steam launch, inlcuding the UI, I would probably loose my nerves without addons for the UI, especialy the name plates and text, they are horrible.
 
+ the populaton can grow only over time, with more content being added to the game, but in my opinion, the devs should focus a bit more on fixing bugs, and later put more effort into content and advertising it	
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Im new to Wildstar, and this game is awesome, I like it a lot. I see a lot of low level players or same lvl like me (10-ish) on EU PvE, running around doing quests, so If I were to guess, the population is slowly growing, but as mentioned before, Wildstar has small to non advertising. I knew about wildstar becuase of the first hype on launch, and I touched it only now, when its F2P.
 
Steam will only help to raise the playerbase, and it will easily take the spot on number 1 F2P mmorpg, because its quiet similiar to WoW and has the most fair ingame shop I have ever seen in an F2P mmorpg, But first, Devs must try to fix as much bugs as they can before steam launch, inlcuding the UI, I would probably loose my nerves without addons for the UI, especialy the name plates and text, they are horrible.
 
+ the populaton can grow only over time, with more content being added to the game, but in my opinion, the devs should focus a bit more on fixing bugs, and later put more effort into content and advertising it
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glad you are enjoying the game! Welcome to nexus!
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Never trust the gaming media, for anything. There are no journalists and most of them only print rumors or articles in favor of companies advertising on their sites and giving them free copies so they don't have to pay for it. Objectivity is a four letter word to them, that is what Gamergate was all about until 3rd wave feminists hijacked it for their own gain.
 
Just spread the word about the game to the people you know, try to get them to play and help make the game grow. I only started a week ago with 20 guildmates from another game...there are now 28 of us with a few more planning on coming next week and that usually gets even more to come since many of us have actually been playing together since Ultima Online and Asherons Call.	
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