Report 967

Report #967
Skillset: Loralaria Skill: FleckedFortissimo
 Org: Symphonium Status: Completed Sept 2012
Furies' Decision:
Solution 1.
Problem: At present, FleckedFortissimo sprawls enemies on tic. If gemmed, there
is also a ~50 percent chance of disrupting focus balance for ~1.5s.
Unfortunately, the arrangement of song tics has this ability coming into play
alongside BlueBerceuse and MidnightMinuet, which typically already sprawls and
off-balances the bard's enemies.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #1: Change Fortissimo to instead hit within the grouping
 of VioletVibrato and RedRubato.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #2: Change the effect of Fortissimo to instead apply a
 short stun, in lieu of sprawling.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #3: Leave Fortissimo tic within the same grouping, though
 allow it to hit after BlueBerceuse, rather than
 before. In addition to this, allow it to apply a
 short stun if an enemy is already sprawled, gemmed or
 ungemmed. Keep gemmed effect the same.
Player Comments:
---[Shuyin on 9/10 @ 21:37 writes]:
Solution 1 only. You don't need stun on top of aeon/sleep/prone/lust/offbalance.
That's a bit much.
---[Eritheyl on 9/10 @ 21:46 writes]:
Solution 2 changed to a very nice suggestion by Jaamil.
---[Jaamil on 9/10 @ 21:58 writes]:
Well.. perhaps swapping out prone for stun as a suggestion, other than that, it
would be a bit much to add stun on top of what it already does.
---[Eritheyl on 9/10 @ 22:30 writes]:
The above is now Solution 2.
---[Llandros on 9/11 @ 00:12 writes]:
I might not understand because I don't see how solution 1 would be an
improvement. Unless the sleep goes through insomnia then it will rarely prone.
The current prone and balance loss, which stops most from standing, is much
better then prone and chance to trip up balance focus with a set of mostly non
focused cure afflictions and a time warp that doesn't really help you.
---[Llandros on 9/11 @ 00:20 writes]:
Also, please no passive stun.
---[Eritheyl on 9/11 @ 00:36 writes]:
With turquoise infused (which it should always be, as our combat setup
essentially requires it), BlueBerceuse has a ~50% chance of hitting with double
sleep, which prones the target. That means that 50% of the time,
FleckedFortissimo is doing absolutely nothing, while MidnightMinuet will
-always- have its intended effect in the pairing.
---[Eritheyl on 9/11 @ 00:40 writes]:
Additionally, the balance loss from MidnightMinuet is only 1s, chance of 2s if
gemmed. In regards to coupling it with the prone from double sleep, it's
essentially negligible. That's a topic for another report.
---[Eritheyl on 9/11 @ 00:57 writes]:
@Shuyin: I think you overestimate LoralAria's effects a bit. The aeon is an
active, 3p effect completely separate from song tic, while the offbal is
negligible and the lust only comes into play a 15% of the time. With these facts
in mind, I do not believe a short stun to be over the top.
---[Viynain on 9/12 @ 01:17 writes]:
I disagree with the belief that passive stun is needed for this skillset.
Loralaria isn't the only source of aeon and lust that the guild can achieve, and
find that stun would push Tarot-using Symphonists a bit over the edge.
---[Shuyin on 9/12 @ 04:30 writes]:
Even if aeon were active, it's still there. You have access to aeon regardless.
So yes, you will be able to put aeon/sleep/prone/lust/offbalance if you play
your cards right. Most other guilds only get maybe 2-3 of these effects reliably
with their skills and you're proposing to add stun on top of this. That's still
too much. Plus really, if you need lust, nothing stops you from having this song
plus sipping love, increasing your chance to lust by way more than 15%.
---[Viynain on 9/13 @ 00:46 writes]:
Look at the forum thread for your report for my thoughts on FleckedFortissimo in
relation to the Loralaria special report.
---[Viynain on 9/16 @ 02:52 writes]:
FleckedFortissimo is currently being considered as part of the Loralaria special
report recently submitted. I think it'd be best to see what that report will
yield first, before this.
---[Shuyin on 9/25 @ 04:41 writes]:
Yeah, I'd rather wait until the special reports are sorted before approving what
happens to this skill to be safe.
---[Rivius on 9/28 @ 13:43 writes]:
I think solution 1 sounds fine to me.