109836-nickle-and-dimed

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     I paid my car insurance today, no big deal, just something that had to be done.  Come back home and get the mail and see another bill form the health insurance company I've been trying to get settled. Oh well, it's life in America, bills have to be paid.  I get inside, grab a nice iced tea and turn on the PC to get some 'away from reality' time.  Before I log in I hear the sound of water rushing below me in the basement.  Checking it out I find that a hose has broken on the water softener system and my basement is a little flooded.  Great, just what I need.
 
     I make the calls and set up to have the plumber come in tomorrow.  Shutting off the water was easy, and I avoided a weekend call in rate.  The water can wait.  Its a cement floor and drains pretty well.
 
     OK, sit down, decide to play a little wildstar, maybe use my medic character that I've left sitting on the back burner while I leveled my spell slinger.  I log in to find her standing in Thayd.  I start where I left off in the crafting area by doing one of the crafting dailies.  Great, I need more mats.  I look at my gold and see that I still have to buy a few AMPs as well as one of the spells if I want to try healing in this game.  Then I remembered I just started a farm so I pop up to the old homestead - I call it 'Rampart'.  Some older folks will know why I named it that for a medic character.  I look out to the plot and don't see any crops.  I planted them last week, what gives?  Oh, I see,  If you don't use it in a certain time it degrades and falls into disrepair. 
 
     Oh, another gold to fix it!  What is that the weekend rate for the protostar fix it guy to come to my little plot in the sky?  Didn't I take my 'spaceship of the imagination' to Nexus so I could get away from thoughts of 'Bills, bills, repair, bills and breakage' that was in my real life?  Wait, wasn't a timed death for crops something I saw in Farmville?  Oooh Farmville - HARDCORE!
 
Grrrrr!
 
 
     Ok, calm down.  I'll just hack and slash some stuff on my warrior.  Get a little aggression out of my system.  I left him in the starting area.  I switch toons and see why I left him there.   He has a quest that is bugged.  I have to set fire to some shacks and the item to use is greyed out and wont work.  It worked fine on the other toons I had. 
 
Great. I log off.
 
     I understand why there are all these little items to buy in the game. Little things to spend money on, nickel and dime stuff.  I really do.  You want people to play the game a lot or break down and buy some CREDD.  That and the sub fee is fine.  But the nickel and dine aspect of the game, the sub fee AND the broken quests and other issues that players mention on these forums going un-repaired, or repaired only to see something else has 'slipped by' testing and causes some other issue?  That is not fine.
 
     Fixing the bugs will take time, I realize that.  But until that is done can you cut the 'nickel and dime' stuff a bit?  It doesn't have to be everything, but I don't see why I should pay 'full price' for a game that is still very buggy.  
 
 
I want to lose myself in Wildstar, not log off after petty frustrations that make my real life look better than Nexus.
			
				
	Edited August 21, 2014 by Quuarm	
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How can you immerse yourself if you are flitting between alts ?
 
Also there's nothing to stop you from killing mobs. That quest can be skipped :/ 
I agree with the many bills you have to pay in wildstar. It is a bit silly, but its important to have money sinks otherwise people can hoard plat.
 
I honestly think you will have more fun on a single player game RPG! for those times where you want to lose yourself. 	
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You have a very cynical view of why housing items require repair. It is a gold sink, and that sink is needed for a healthy economy. You need a balance between the gold coming into the system and gold going out otherwise you will just be complaining that the real world problem of inflation is ruining the economy and driving newer players away in droves as they cannot afford anything on the AH or CX.
 
It has nothing to do with CREDD. It is just basic economics.	
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Yeah, I can kill mobs and skip quest that I really don't need when they're bugged, but having that stuff in a game that has this many bugs and other issues just leaves me 'not feeling it' for Nexus.
 
...And I sometimes do the single player RPG thing
 
Come to think of it I still have Fallout 3 to get through.	
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There are bugs, no one is going to deny that.
 
It is just that the premise of this thread is to break large parts of the game because small part are already broken. You are suggesting they remove essential elements of the economy which would result in large problems later on because your warrior has a bugged quest. There is just no logic to that.	
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Ok, so don't adjust the in game cost when the game is buggy.  Look at it from the other side of cost.  GIve out  free game time, when there are issues.  Would that screw up the in game economy?
 
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GIve out a day each month when there is a certain level of 'buggyness' in the game.
			
				
	Edited August 21, 2014 by Quuarm	
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I think if there are serious issues that affect people accessing the game then, yes free game time is certainly a good idea. However, that has not happened here. The bugs in th game do need to be fixed and it will take time. However, there is a huge amount of other working content to be getting on with in the game in the mean time.
 
Games have bugs, even single player RPGs have bugs. I doubt Fallout 3 is bug free, but we do you expect a refund for the minor ones such as one quest not quite working for isolated charactrs?
 
If you are simply not enjoying the game that is a different issue.	
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Our friend here is just cynically commenting on the way you have to pay a sub for this game, but receive f2p quality / a not very polished game that requires CREDD to have a standard experience.
 
I for one agree with him. OP I'd recommend ffxiv if you haven't already tried it. The game was released and received content patches that were very big, fun, and not broken each time. I honestly felt like it was worth 15$ a month.
 
This game is either worth 15$ a month with out all the money sinks, or f2p with those money sinks. I don't know why we have to pay a sub and still farm dailies to just to afford housing and all the other upkeep.
 
But I guess I'm just spoiled with other MMOs delivering what was advertised.	
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Requires CREDD? I am not sure I understand what you mean.
 
The money sinks are there for the in game economy not the CREDD economy. Look at the other subscription games that do not have CREDD or the like as an option, they still have large money sinks. It is basic economics to balance the level of gold coming is so as to keep the economy healthy for the future of the game. These gold sinks often seem larger when you are new to the game but they far out weigh the issue of new players joining later and not only these gold sinks seeming large but everything on the AH or CX seeming imposibly unattainable.
 
I think that some of the sinks need adjusting, but not removing at all.	
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Yesterday I logged in and spent over 4 platinum on CHEAP runes for my gear. That's more than 2 days worth of dailies. It costs me 8 platinum to give my character a new dye job.
 
On my server, that's the equivalent of a CREDD just to have a different visual look. In FFXIV, they gave you customization for free, well, part of your subscription fee. That's just one of the most glaring examples.	
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			Dye is definitely one of those things that I think needs adjusting.	
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     I can see by several of the replies that my post has left the impression that I could be a cynic.  Honest, I'm not.  At the most I am a happy nihilist.
 
No, nothing matters, except fart jokes.	
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I think if there are serious issues that affect people accessing the game then, yes free game time is certainly a good idea. However, that has not happened here. The bugs in th game do need to be fixed and it will take time. However, there is a huge amount of other working content to be getting on with in the game in the mean time.
 
Games have bugs, even single player RPGs have bugs. I doubt Fallout 3 is bug free, but we do you expect a refund for the minor ones such as one quest not quite working for isolated charactrs?
 
If you are simply not enjoying the game that is a different issue.
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The only problem with Fallout 3 was right after release, when that damn Fawkes wouldn't go into the reactor. YOU'RE IMMUNE TO RADIATION YOU JERK, STOP TELLING ME IT'S MYJOURNEY! I'm not bitter at all.
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One of the worst forced plot devices I've ever seen in any medium.
Absolutely terrible hack job by Bethesda.  :angry:
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Dye is definitely one of those things that I think needs adjusting.
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			 The little gold sinks i can live with its the large price gouging on essential stuff like respec's,repair and dyes i find annoying..	
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