108645-i-mightve-goofed

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I had created a medic at launch on exile orias.
 
I had intentions of joining a guild that already had a community going, nearly 2 full groups  for 20m meaning 40 man transition would be fairly easy. 
 
Well unfortunately sometime in mid-late june the guild disbanded & died, with no word and I've tried contacting the GM and unfortunately he's quit the game.
 
 
I'm looking over alot of servers that are PvE (I can't level on a PvP server...I've heard horror stories from friends), and they seem to be mostly dominion.
 
Not only am I trying to find a medic spot (prefer heal, but dps is ok too), but I'm trying to find one for exile. 
 
 
 
Did I just goof? Are most PvE guilds dominion?
 
I really wish they'd just do faction change, no reason not to, at least for PvE servers.
 
Leveling is grueling enough, the fact I have to do it again to play the class I want in a consistent & focused guild to raid is just...	
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I had created a medic at launch on exile orias.
 
I had intentions of joining a guild that already had a community going, nearly 2 full groups  for 20m meaning 40 man transition would be fairly easy. 
 
Well unfortunately sometime in mid-late june the guild disbanded & died, with no word and I've tried contacting the GM and unfortunately he's quit the game.
 
 
I'm looking over alot of servers that are PvE (I can't level on a PvP server...I've heard horror stories from friends), and they seem to be mostly dominion.
 
Not only am I trying to find a medic spot (prefer heal, but dps is ok too), but I'm trying to find one for exile. 
 
 
 
Did I just goof? Are most PvE guilds dominion?
 
I really wish they'd just do faction change, no reason not to, at least for PvE servers.
 
Leveling is grueling enough, the fact I have to do it again to play the class I want in a consistent & focused guild to raid is just...
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I don't want to cause a large debate, but just a simple question.
 
I'm afraid to join a casual guild, because when I think casual, mind you this is coming from 9 years of WoW, I think a guild that doesn't give a damn in raids and raids 2-3 days a week. Which 3 days isn't bad, but in a 'hardcore' game like wildstar I feel 4 days is whats needed to progress on a consistent basis. I'm not one to view casual = bad, but casual usually means less effort. Perhaps my view of casual is wrong and I view casual as less time so less time in return results in less effort on your character's progression and your skill because you haven't seen as much as others.
 
As someone who doesn't play casually, I put probably around 5 hours a day into gaming, and can easily put 40 hours a week into gaming, thats alot of progression to me. I'm just afraid to join a guild that is casual and it ends up happening like my guild. Maybe I'm just on the wrong server too. Orias seems to have enough exile, but only about 3 guilds are non-casual. Some opinions on this? 	
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			In that case ... go to the guild recruitment forums for NA or EU and Post "Looking for "Hardcore" Guild" and see who bites.	
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I don't want to cause a large debate, but just a simple question.
 
I'm afraid to join a casual guild, because when I think casual, mind you this is coming from 9 years of WoW, I think a guild that doesn't give a damn in raids and raids 2-3 days a week. Which 3 days isn't bad, but in a 'hardcore' game like wildstar I feel 4 days is whats needed to progress on a consistent basis. I'm not one to view casual = bad, but casual usually means less effort. Perhaps my view of casual is wrong and I view casual as less time so less time in return results in less effort on your character's progression and your skill because you haven't seen as much as others.
 
As someone who doesn't play casually, I put probably around 5 hours a day into gaming, and can easily put 40 hours a week into gaming, thats alot of progression to me. I'm just afraid to join a guild that is casual and it ends up happening like my guild. Maybe I'm just on the wrong server too. Orias seems to have enough exile, but only about 3 guilds are non-casual. Some opinions on this? 
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In that case ... go to the guild recruitment forums for NA or EU and Post "Looking for "Hardcore" Guild" and see who bites.
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"Casual" is on a sliding scale.  These days, "casual" seems to mean you don't have to log in everyday and grind on behalf of the guild if you don't feel like it.
 
Progression is slower because raiding in this game is shockingly hard.  Only one guild has beaten one boss in Datascape, and I think GA is still not server-firsted on a bunch of the servers.  This isn't a game where you can eat the raids in a week or two; it's harder than Jimmy Saville at a taping at Disney Studios.
 
With that said...
 
 
 
...that's your best shot.
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Yeah, the horror stories you've heard are from Dominion players.  Nothing like a 4:1 pop with roaming death squads to start some horror stories.
 
And most hardcore guilds won't be raiding 4 days a week.  Those are called progression guilds.  Hardcore usually have the strat down and dedicate a single day to a zone.	
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Thats kind of the problem though, at that point I might as well reroll dominion, because a server transfer fee is needed now, at that point if I need a server transfer fee I might as well unsub. I'm not doomsaying or anything, but its just not up my alley to server transfer just after I resubbed. 
 
Mind you, if the leveling content was a bit quicker and more enjoyable (remove tasks, and insert path quests into tasks...thanks) I'd consider it. 
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			Understood but, while you are looking why not "try a both and option" and find a server looking for people of your play style and "bite the bullet" and level a toon anyway while you are waiting.  What may happen is that you will "find the guild you are looking for" while you are leveling on "that server" and it will be worth it to you to pay the transfer to transfer your toons to that server.  Make sense?  I mean if you really do like the game, play the game and relax while you are looking for a new guild that suits you.  Your other option is to sit and be miserable. 	
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Why is raiding hard though? Is it because once you're dead, you're dead? Mistakes are more punishing? Damage going out is intense? Mechanics are hard/new? 
 
From the dungeons/adventures I've done, I can't see a difference. Its slightly different because the engine is completely different, but you can match logic with mechanics and you can succeed it seems. Keep in mind I haven't been in GA or DS yet, but at this point, no offense to anyone, but mistakes I feel are the only thing that make raids hard in any game nowadays, which logically they would, but it seems like the volume of mistakes judge how hard a fight is in any game.
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If you're really that hardcore, there are people sprinting to 50 in a matter of 2-3 days.  It does hurt your point if you are looking for a hardcore raiding guild, but the process of leveling seems too daunting.
 
With that said, you can check on the realm forums and look to see who has the best progression on your server and faction.  Odds are, they're the most hardcore.
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Understood but, while you are looking why not "try a both and option" and find a server looking for people of your play style and "bite the bullet" and level a toon anyway while you are waiting.  What may happen is that you will "find the guild you are looking for" while you are leveling on "that server" and it will be worth it to you to pay the transfer to transfer your toons to that server.  Make sense?  I mean if you really do like the game, play the game and relax while you are looking for a new guild that suits you.  Your other option is to sit and be miserable. 
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			While you wait ... you can poke your head into Morning Coffee, and hang out with us.  Their are both factions in that thread that are regular posters.  Some posted in your thread.  But, you may find a place while you search with us. ;)	
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While you wait ... you can poke your head into Morning Coffee, and hang out with us.  Their are both factions in that thread that are regular posters.  Some posted in your thread.  But, you may find a place while you search with us. ;)
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Are most PvE guilds dominion?
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I suppose, I feel like wildstar is a game you put your entire efforts into a main character, or you lose efficiency. I could be wrong. I haven't seen end-game yet.
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Most servers seem to have a balance tilted towards Exile, and, even if that wasn't the case, there would always be more than enough for a number of guilds. For example, my server Ravenous has a HUGE imbalance towards Exile, and the furthest Dominion guild is only 2/6 into GA. But besides that there are plenty of guilds recruiting - too many, infact.
 
Your main issue is being a Medic healer. But I wouldn't say you "goofed" there, you just picked the most populous healer (about 50% of healers are Medic according to several polls).
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Raiding four days a week?
 
My Lord. My brains would turn to mush.
 
Is anything less than four days a week considered "casual" nowadays? Holy crap. :lol:	
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Raiding four days a week?
 
My Lord. My brains would turn to mush.
 
Is anything less than four days a week considered "casual" nowadays? Holy crap. :lol:
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			ya done goof'd. that's all I got.	
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Want honesty? 
 
Shop around for guilds. I don't know if you've been in on other mmos at release but a lot of guilds go poof after the first month. The guilds that were trying to down content even in beta have stuck around for the most part. 
Your server is probably going to keep bleeding. On many servers entire guilds swapped servers. 
The best bet is go to Stormtalon, think well if you want to keep with medic healer, and shop for guilds. Check them out, open dialogue with them, see what they are looking for and would fit you, etc. 
 
Ensure that they are willing to help you attune. It's not because pugs are necessarily bad (can be) but because it tells you what kind of guild it is. If they want you to attune alone pugging, they don't much care for you, simple fact. 
 
Exile is big on Stormtalon. Guilds can test your skills even cross server. They invite you to party, go into 5mans and see what you've got. 
 
That's all if you want on a hardcore guild. 
Funny enough pvp servers tend to have very hardcore PvE guilds too, but I get it if pvp ganking and all turns you off. 
 
Good luck. Take your time to choose. As you say, you don't want another guild that will implode.	
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