142343-waitits-not-account-bound-and-whatever-happened-to

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I really wish the following items were account bound instead of character bound:
 
All Mounts (I have 3 mounts, none from the cash shop, that are sitting in my bank because I dont want to bind them to a character I might not use forever.)
All Titles (Have you ever been on an alt at the wrong time for a world boss kill....looking at you King Honeygrave.)
All Dyes (I thought somewhere I read that this was supposed to happen with F2P?)
*Achivements would be cool too, but I dont know how hard that is to make happen.
 
The other things that I have been patiently waiting for is race changes and path changes/additions.  And As far as race change goes, I dont mean the Cassian Medic to Draken....I just wanna change to a Chua, although the Draken would be cool. :D :rolleyes:   I also made the mistake of picking explorer as my path, which while fun does diddly squat when it comes to helping in groups.  I had read somewhere that a dev dropped a hint that we might get an extra path slot, how cool would that be...meet my "scientist explorer medic Chua"
 
Anyways, thank you Carbine for a great game, I have been around since the beginning (keeping my sub  ;) ) and it is so great to see the game really starting to thrive.   Just wanted to throw my two cents in.	
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			Agreed.  Mounts are basically cosmetic, and there's no reason for them to not be account bound. Same goes for dyes. GW2 did this and it was one of the most fantastic things that an MMORPG has ever done.  	
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Agreed.  Mounts are basically cosmetic, and there's no reason for them to not be account bound. Same goes for dyes. GW2 did this and it was one of the most fantastic things that an MMORPG has ever done.  
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And there's achievments too, seems they aren't account bound. That's odd.
 
 
Do you know if the person disables the 2-step verification the mount is gone? I'm willing to activate it and deactivate it for the mount if that's possible =p
 
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And there's achievments too, seems they aren't account bound. That's odd.
 
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Dyes being account bound would definitely be pretty awesome.
 
I don't think it's quite necessary for every mount to be account bound, though I can certainly say that it's not a bad idea.  There's already account-bound mounts you can get (such as the 2-step verification retroblade) so further mounts are largely cosmetic and what's the point of cosmetics if not a money sink?
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And there's achievments too, seems they aren't account bound. That's odd.
 
 
Do you know if the person disables the 2-step verification the mount is gone? I'm willing to activate it and deactivate it for the mount if that's possible =p
 
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Yes, disabling 2 step removes the mount.
 
I used Windows Authenticator (I on't own a mobile phone) and got the mount. I had to disable it when I came back, i'm on a new PC, and the mount is no longer available.
 
Doesn't matter much for me though, i've got the beta hoverboard and that's the only mount I use. My other mounts are pretty pointless.
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I agree. The more things that are account wide, the better. Obviously, everything can't be. But what is often not realized by developers, and even some players is that when items are account wide, they are percieved to have a much greater value for the price, and therefore are purchased more often.
 
I for one will buy account bound items even if I don't immediately intend to use them, just so I know I have them (mounts, dyes, etc) avaialble to all of my characters	
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			Account-wide holowardrobe is genius though. Stoked to deck out new alts in upper level gear	
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I think that any game I have played that allows cosmetics such as dyes etc and mounts to be account wide has a far better "quality of life" feel about it - I have no qualms dropping RL cash on a mount if I can use it on every toon I will ever play (even ones not yet created).
 
I almost never spend RL cash on "bound to character" stuff.
 
I think they could also make the Housing plot account wide - with an option to unlock character specific ones - and that would IMO be an improvement too.
 
All The Best	
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			Account-based dyes would be amazing, indeed.	
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Well, you could still re-enable it on a new computer in much the same way?  Given that you can deactivate 2-step authentication for phones I should think the same functionality would exist for the Windows Authenticator.
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Of course I could, but that isn't what he asked.
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Missing:
All Pets
All Mount wardrobe	
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"Bua, Bua, Carbine Mount Account Wide pls"
Too many WoWfags in this game.
 
Thank you Blizzard by teaching people the wrong way.
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I'm glad you are educated enough to know that the totally proper response to a complain from a fellow player isn't an actual logical argument, but the dismissive use of slurs and throwing blame to the most popular element in range.
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"Bua, Bua, Carbine Mount Account Wide pls"
Too many WoWfags in this game.
 
Thank you Blizzard by teaching people the wrong way.
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I just don't feel like commiting to another character when I have so much cool stuff on my "main". That's my biggest issue. Which just makes me play less.
 
And it definitely makes me not even consider buying mounts and pets from the in game shop if it is character bound :/	
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			Yup, yup, and yup!	
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The wrong way of not having to earn/find/unlock/buy the same thing 5 times because you like variety?
 
This seems needlessly spiteful and wholly unnecessary.
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			Would be nice if at least we can use service tokens to make mounts/dyes/pets account wide.	
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			Oh, forgot to mention that WoW still Sub-based and Willstar is F2P now, they need to make money.	
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It's called business.
Back then mounts on WoW aren't account wide, Blizzard had Account Wide Mounts in their Blizzard Shop (IIRC it was 25$ each mount, or 20$), so people who don't want to deal of buying mounts for their alts, have a option to buy account wide mounts (I personally had all of them until I left the game).
But now since all mounts are account wide, the only reason to buy the Shop mounts is for "collection".
Carbine will probably (maybe) go for the same way, selling account wide mounts in the future, now sadly the availabe mounts in the NShop aren't account wide.
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Um, exsqueeze me?  I've played WoW for the better part of 11 years and I'm almost completely positive that account wide mounts predates their cash shop.
 
In fact a cursory search reveals that account wide mounts happened in WoW in August of 2012 and the cash shop was introduced in December of 2013.
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https://us.battle.net/shop/pt/product/game/wow?categories=mounts
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Celestial Steed is since WotLK, dude...
 
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http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Celestial_Steed
 
 Patch 3.3.3 (2010-03-23): Added.
			
				
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 i've got the beta hoverboard and that's the only mount I use. My other mounts are pretty pointless.
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Err, is there such thing? 'cause I've played beta and didn't get anything for it, only boomboxes, and i had to open a ticket and wait weeks for them :(
Do you mean the deluxe edition maybe?
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Err, is there such thing? 'cause I've played beta and didn't get anything for it, only boomboxes, and i had to open a ticket and wait weeks for them :(
Do you mean the deluxe edition maybe?
 
Edit: To add something to the topic, I wouldn't like account bound mounts tbh. Why would you want to use the same mount on every character when there are so many you can choose from. And why would they add new mounts if everyone were to use the same :)
Ca$h mounts are fine to be BoP since you spend real money, and mounts that you can acquire one time only and never again such as limited give aways/events mount.
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Yes, disabling 2 step removes the mount.
 
I used Windows Authenticator (I on't own a mobile phone) and got the mount. I had to disable it when I came back, i'm on a new PC, and the mount is no longer available.
 
Doesn't matter much for me though, i've got the beta hoverboard and that's the only mount I use. My other mounts are pretty pointless.
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Err, is there such thing? 'cause I've played beta and didn't get anything for it, only boomboxes, and i had to open a ticket and wait weeks for them :(
Do you mean the deluxe edition maybe?
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			There are account bound mounts but only a few, but this game is so alt unfriendly its best you do everything on your main and use your alt just for RP and housing :)	
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You're welcome.
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There are account bound mounts but only a few, but this game is so alt unfriendly its best you do everything on your main and use your alt just for RP and housing :)
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But why demand that the system be impaired if it literally does not affect you?
 
Just because one person only ever uses one mount it doesn't mean that someone else doesn't swap their mounts around on occasion.
 
Why should someone, particularly someone who plays alts, have to gather the same things over and over?  Why should I have to buy the same mounts every time I decide to make a new character? 
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You don't know alt unfriendly until you've played FFXIV, especially considering their expansion.  Once you've gotten to the base game cap of 50 there is literally hours of story quest content you cannot bypass before you can start accessing expansion content.  I don't mean 'buckle down this saturday and get this done' kind of hours, I mean 'spend a week and maybe you'll be done' kind of hours.  So many of the story quests that you HAVE to complete require a lot of backtracking and pointless time wasting.
 
Don't misunderstand me, though.  I think FFXIV is a beautiful game with awesome music (and I'm leaning more towards ye olde awesome in that it inspires in me a sense of awe) and even the game itself is pretty solid...but as an altaholic myself I just can't.  I can't play that game.
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I don't mind it if they add such function, it's just not something I would ask myself.
I so play three caracters myself but I don't see why I should want to use the same mount on all of them, my spellsinger does fine with his hoverboard, my esper rides the Cosmic Point's warpig and my warr uses a bike. 
I've bought physical box mounts on ss and I don't really care much if I won't be able to ride them on alts, I've planned ahead that I wanted them on that particular character. If I come across a particular, rare, mount that I really want I first choose on which caracter i'd like to have it and then start farming.
That said, mounts store are already multi-claim so what coins should you grind over and over? (i'm not into mount farming)
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Is this a thing they've said they might do?
 
Because I would totally love that!	
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So many of the story quests that you HAVE to complete
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			Maybe they could add an option to transfer character bound mounts from one character to another (or make them account bound) for small amount of omnibits (ncoins).
			
				
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Is this a thing they've said they might do?
 
Because I would totally love that!
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The best thing they have ever made.
No more people who "Hey guys, I got my game today and boosted my character and now I am here ruining your group because I don't know shit about anything in the game."
 
If you want to see the new content you need to complete the older content first, no more "*cupcake*the old content, just jump through the new content", coff...WoW...coff...
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Yeah, it's super great having to slog through content over the course of a week in order to see something new.
 
I'm not advocating giving people a pass to new stuff by invalidating old stuff but it was a major kick in the dick when I spent a week of my time doing story missions so I could unlock Machinist only to find out that it was underperforming like nobody's business.
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What are you expecting from a heavily story based game?
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I was expecting all that effort I put in to unlocking that class to pay off with a class that didn't suck.
 
I was wrong.
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Machinist isn't good since FF12, unless when you're playing Low Level Challenge.
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...wait, I don't think 12 had a class system?
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In the International Zodiac Job System you have.
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I guess I must've not gotten that far in 12.  All I remember about its 'class' systems was the licenses.  Ohhh the licenses.
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The International version is Japan Only, you can play it on emulator tho, someone made a English Patch to it.
Instead of the same License Board for everyone, you Pick a Job for every character and the License Board will have only Licenses that has something to do with the Job you picked.
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			Account-wide unlocks for mounts, pets, cash shop-purchased skies/floors/musics, and dyes would ALL be greatly appreciated for the same reason the account-wide Holo-Wardrobe was such a fantastic move.	
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Maybe they could add an option to transfer character bound mounts from one character to another (or make them account bound) for small amount of omnibits (ncoins).
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			I could understand having single-character purchases only if the items were Bind on Equip instead, since that would allow people to sell those in the AH for platinum or whatever. But I'm not sure that's the case, since I haven't bought anything yet (and probably won't until account-wide purchases of cosmetics are a thing) nor have I seen any of those items in the AH.	
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The thing is.Mounts or any item bought in the NCShop SHOULD be account wide.
 
BUT mounts bought ingame, shouldn't.
WS is F2P, they need to make money, selling Account Wide Mounts in the NCShop is one way to make money in this game, the same with Costumes.	
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			Let us unlock items/mounts on any of our toons and let us then "unlock" said item/mount for any other toon via ncoin/omnibits in the collections tab perhaps? I'd hella be down with that model :P SWTOR has it and I didn't mind it so much when I played that.
			
				
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Let us unlock items/mounts on any of our toons and let us then "unlock" said item/mount for any other toon via ncoin/omnibits in the collections tab perhaps? I'd hella be down with that model :P SWTOR has it and I didn't mind it so much when I played that.
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			 Account bound dyes if at the very least should be account wide.. makes no sense to have the holowardrobe account wide and not the dye system that's within it.. thats a no brainer. For mounts they will probably be account bound at some point its pretty much the mmo trend now..gotta keep up with the joneses. Plus it puts a higher demand on collecting them.. same with the dyes. Paying 30+ plat for the black and white dyes seems steep for just one character but looks more tempting when it becomes unlocked for the rest of your characters. If the shop mounts become account wide I can see their prices going up for that very reason also.	
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Pets, mounts, dyes, mount accesories and achievements not account bound is just bad design and archaic. No amount of "b-but they have to earn money" justifies bad design. Character bound collections make playing with several characters very jarring, since you still have to get gear and all that, but it feels like you just went back in time (but you're not younger) and your "playing endurance" plummets. It's also refreshing not worrying over things you get while playing other characters, and you can kick back and really enjoy Nexus.
 
Also, costume appearances in the wardrobe should be unique, even if several items share the same appearance. Once I've unlocked the yellow puffy vest, it should mark all other yellow puffy vests as having their appearance unlocked. Instead of the source item's name, each skin should have several tags that can be used to search (long coat, short coat, vest, shirt, overalls, armor chest, full armor, hoodie... even base colors). The current system is a real mess in that aspect (and generic gear inventory icons don't help at all... they just had to go and copy that bad aspect of WoW).
 
P.S.: Gold should also be account bound (or at least faction bound). I mean, can't you send money to yourself already? Why the extra loading screens?
			
				
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			I never really understood why people dont want more choices available for all their characters.  I mean if you earn it or pay for it and its purely cosmetic...whats the harm on letting all your characters have access to it.  I can't be the only one who has been on the wrong character when I have some random drop thats BoP, and the dyes can get really expensive.  As far as the cash shop goes I spent a ton of money on GW2 and it was all account bound, they seem to be doing O.K.... :D	
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I think that any game I have played that allows cosmetics such as dyes etc and mounts to be account wide has a far better "quality of life" feel about it - I have no qualms dropping RL cash on a mount if I can use it on every toon I will ever play (even ones not yet created).
 
I almost never spend RL cash on "bound to character" stuff.
 
I think they could also make the Housing plot account wide - with an option to unlock character specific ones - and that would IMO be an improvement too.
 
All The Best
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Mounts and Pets should be account bound, especialy stuff you get from the mystic lopp thingy, the coins you need are account bound so should the rewards be.
 
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Dyes being account bound would definitely be pretty awesome.
 
I don't think it's quite necessary for every mount to be account bound, though I can certainly say that it's not a bad idea.  There's already account-bound mounts you can get (such as the 2-step verification retroblade) so further mounts are largely cosmetic and what's the point of cosmetics if not a money sink?
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Even this CRB could made hardcore. Let say, dyes are account bound, but you have to unlock it first. With some Protostar Dye Unlocker, which you can get from dungeons or challenges. Or some platinum. So people would have money and time sink, and something to do on alts. =)
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You seem to be missing the whole reason why people want account bound items....
 
It's so we don't have to jump through hoops to unlock them on alts. Once we have them unlocked, they should be available for all characters. No finding something in dungeons or challenges just unlocked.
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The argument of "They need to make money!"  keeps coming up.  Well, I won't buy a mount at all if it isn't account-wide, and I doubt I'm the only one.  I  have a feeling people like me outnumber the people who are willing to spend up to $20 per character to have a fancy mount.  And really, if the NCoin mounts were account-wide, there would be no reason to not make all mounts account-wide.  Even if they are rewards for in-game accomplishments like the Avatus mount.  No, your alt hasn't killed Avatus, but your main/alt isn't the one playing your account.  YOU, the player, killed Avatus, and should be able to use the mount regardless of which character you're playing at the moment.
 
People will gladly pay for quality services, mounts etc. if it's a reasonable value.  I've only been playing a month and have paid for signature and have bought several items with NCoin.  I will pay for something that is a good value, but I won't be milked for cash.  In the long run, a generous policy regarding this issue will likely make more money.  There's a reason why WoW went account-wide with mounts, after all.	
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The argument of "They need to make money!"  keeps coming up.  Well, I won't buy a mount at all if it isn't account-wide, and I doubt I'm the only one.  I  have a feeling people like me outnumber the people who are willing to spend up to $20 per character to have a fancy mount.  And really, if the NCoin mounts were account-wide, there would be no reason to not make all mounts account-wide.  Even if they are rewards for in-game accomplishments like the Avatus mount.  No, your alt hasn't killed Avatus, but your main/alt isn't the one playing your account.  YOU, the player, killed Avatus, and should be able to use the mount regardless of which character you're playing at the moment.
 
People will gladly pay for quality services, mounts etc. if it's a reasonable value.  I've only been playing a month and have paid for signature and have bought several items with NCoin.  I will pay for something that is a good value, but I won't be milked for cash.  In the long run, a generous policy regarding this issue will likely make more money.  There's a reason why WoW went account-wide with mounts, after all.
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My alt hasn't killed Avatus so why should it have my avatus mount?
 
Some mounts should be Accbound but some shouldn't. If it is from the Cash Shop then yea make it Accbound but if you have to achieve something in game to get the mount then no it shouldn't be given to all fo your alts.
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My alt hasn't killed Avatus so why should it have my avatus mount?
 
Some mounts should be Accbound but some shouldn't. If it is from the Cash Shop then yea make it Accbound but if you have to achieve something in game to get the mount then no it shouldn't be given to all fo your alts.
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My alt hasn't killed Avatus so why should it have my avatus mount?
 
Some mounts should be Accbound but some shouldn't. If it is from the Cash Shop then yea make it Accbound but if you have to achieve something in game to get the mount then no it shouldn't be given to all fo your alts.
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			I would like accountbound titles + mounts. Even account bound housing floors/skies/music would be nice too, at least the cash shop ones.
			
				
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Nah, all cosmetics (that includes housing) should be account bound. Even tradeskill recipes.
 
If something makes you waste time thinking about which character should have it, instead of just "learning" it and then using it with whatever character when you feel like it, then it should be account bound. If something makes you log in, log out of characters just to check if they have it or whatever, it should be account bound.
 
Did I get a decor item? Crate it. I'll decide later which house do I put it in (there's still a placed decor limit, after all).
 
Did I get a new dye? Learn it. If I already learnt it, then I don't have to start sending it by mail to other characters.
 
Did I get a tradeskill recipe drop? Learn it (remove its tradeskill level requirement... I mean, it's not like I'll suddently be able to create things out of my current tradeskill level... I'll just know the recipe when I reach that level). It will be there when/if I change tradeskills or when I level up that tradeskill. If I already learnt it, then I don't have to start sending it by mail to other characters.
 
It just makes everything so fluid, cutting on load screens and time wasting checks...
 
I'm already managing my main and alts' actual gear, progression and daily routines. There's no need to maintain the rest as time consuming hassles.	
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			My bet is that there are some implementations going on about this. But its too buggy to be released or even to be announced. Its CRB bruh! Since CRB has a history of "disapointments", they have to be pretty *cupcake*ing sure of stability before releasing something.	
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My bet is that there are some implementations going on about this. But its too buggy to be released or even to be announced. Its CRB bruh! Since CRB has a history of "disapointments", they have to be pretty *cupcake*ing sure of stability before releasing something.
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			Pets bought from the store should be multiple use, but character bound (we've seen how this works for the Eldan hoverboard etc), dyes I think are now Account bound as is the holo-wardrobe, so that's all gravy.  Mounts bought from the store also need to be account bound or multiple claimable (multiple claim is the system we know exists). However, pets gained ingame and mounts earned from achievements along with titles should all be character bound. 	
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			Dyes bought from the cash shop are multi-claim. Dyes in-game are not account bound, though they should be.	
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The ugly thing about multi-claim items is that... you have to claim them.
 
The process should be done just one time. One. And then it's there already on every character you have and every character you create later.
 
That's the really nice side effect of REAL account bound items. You don't have to keep claiming items on whatever characters.
 
At first, in World of Warcraft, when you got something that was supposed to be account wide, each character ended up with a mailed item. That was kind of a mess. Nowadays, either you learn the item just one time and it's there for every character forever, or it's even directly "learnt" without fussing around with items in your inventory. A message tells you it's been added to your account, simple as that.
 
Wildstar's current system is more or less like WoW's former "get items in the mail at character creation" system. It's even more confusing when you get a pack of omnibits form the daily rewards, for example. You get an entry in the account pane, that tells me the omnibit pack can only be claimed with one character. What? Aren't omnibits account wide? Yes, I get it, it's "character bound" because you only get one bag, not as many bags as characters you have... but it would be more straightforward if I just clicked "Redeem" in the daily reward window and BAM, +5 omnibits go toward my money bags. One click versus several.
 
I really hope they're working on a better account wide item management, and making all those cosmetics account wide!	
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