129159-transform-credd-into-ncoins

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			Hey will there be a way to transform Credds into NCoins? Like Plex into Aurum on eve	
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probably not. CREDD can already be farmed easily enough with in game cash. To be able to then turn that into Store currency would not be in CRB's best interest.
 
 
edit: It's also been previously stated that CREDD will continue to operate in it's current capacity, granting "Signature Service" for 30 days/
			
				
	Edited August 4, 2015 by TheUnnamedAurin	
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			On eve you can also farm Plex easy, but it doesnt matter since someone payed for it. Even if the price drops to 1 copper someone should have paid for them	
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Right. Someone paid for the CREDD so that someone else gets the benefits of a subscription in exchange for their platinum. You get the game time, they get the money. For someone to then turn CREDD around into NCoins, means -they- are getting store currency in exchange for the platinum they paid someone else.
 
Two transactions. Carbine only benefits from one. End user gets store currency for free, to be used on ANY game since NCoins are their generic currency. Assuming you mean the Wildstar specific "Omni Bits".. the above still holds true and Carbine still loses out on the store currency sale.	
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End result is still the same. Can't understand this concept of "OMG YOU BOUGHT IT SO ITS FREE" thing that people have with Credds. Someone always paid for it. They could even make it have a lower convert rate than its price for all I care as long as they allow the transfer.
 
Every credd has been paid for and it's always just "one way" transaction, 
 
Real money -> Omni bits
 
Real money -> Credd -> Omni bits.
 
Exactly same amount of money involved and no-one gets anything "for free". Credds dont just appear out of thin air.	
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End result is still the same. Can't understand this concept of "OMG YOU BOUGHT IT SO ITS FREE" thing that people have with Credds. Someone always paid for it. They could even make it have a lower convert rate than its price for all I care as long as they allow the transfer.
 
Every credd has been paid for and it's always just "one way" transaction, 
 
Real money -> Omni bits
 
Real money -> Credd -> Omni bits.
 
Exactly same amount of money involved and no-one gets anything "for free". Credds dont just appear out of thin air.
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Right. Someone paid for the CREDD so that someone else gets the benefits of a subscription in exchange for their platinum. You get the game time, they get the money. For someone to then turn CREDD around into NCoins, means -they- are getting store currency in exchange for the platinum they paid someone else.
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The problem is that the price of CREDD ingame is not fixed.
And the price for NCoins will be. So the potential loss is great for NCsoft, hence why it will be unlikely to happen.
The value of CREDD is completely determined by players, and the value of the other stuff is going to be determined by NCsoft.
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Wtf ???
 
Credd cost 17€ for me, and the price never changed. Ingame price doesnt matter at all. If i would buy 1 Billion every year and crash the credd market with them, NCSoft would be a happy company because 1 paid 17 Billion €.
 
If Someone buys Nccoins for 17€ Or if he buys a credd from someone who paid 17€ doesnt matter. Ncsoft earned the exact same amount of money. 
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Yes, but your ingame gain for the CREDD will not be the same.
Not that NCsoft will care, they just want the money, but people will care and buy what's most proficient for them, or rather what they need.
I don't see the need of transfering CREDD into coins though.
 
We don't even know what is coming, so before even doing these suggestions, let's see what comes out, and what is actually useful and what not.
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Err, like the need that you could have a Truly F2P where you can buy the stuff with ingame money too through CREDDS without carbine/NCsoft losing anything? Credd price goes up -> people more willing to buy it from NCsoft store, even if the rate from CREDD -> omnibits is bad. And it's not like this would be the only way to get the omnibits, just another way.
 
And the fact that people with credds could get the stuff inshop without having to use real money too. I can't see anything but a win-win for a very little effort required from carbine. And not like it's anything off from people who don't want to use that option. For NCSOFT, increased credd demand -> increased credd ingame price -> more people buying credds from their shop.
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			Honestly, it's best to keep it simple. The benefits of a subscription look to be pretty good, and Omnibits will exist to allow players to buy things from the store through in game play. Plus, it looks like some stuff bought from the store may be traded to other players.	
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Right. Someone paid for the CREDD so that someone else gets the benefits of a subscription in exchange for their platinum. You get the game time, they get the money. For someone to then turn CREDD around into NCoins, means -they- are getting store currency in exchange for the platinum they paid someone else.
 
Two transactions. Carbine only benefits from one. End user gets store currency for free, to be used on ANY game since NCoins are their generic currency. Assuming you mean the Wildstar specific "Omni Bits".. the above still holds true and Carbine still loses out on the store currency sale.
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CREDD was always an exchange between cash and gold and subscription. That's what was promised to the player who paid cash for it when it was purchased and it's what was promised to the player who picked it up off the CREDD exchange. And a subscription still gives you all kinds of stuff that's worth having. 
 
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Eh, it doesn't really change anything. Either the $20 goes toward a sub or the $20 goes toward cash shop stuff. Same ultimate result: Carbine gets $20.
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			$20 is $20, whether a player spends it on sub time or on the cash shop. If a player buys CREDD with plat and doesn't use it for their subscription, then they'll have to pay Carbine for the subscription. It's the same.	
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$20 is $20, whether a player spends it on sub time or on the cash shop. If a player buys CREDD with plat and doesn't use it for their subscription, then they'll have to pay Carbine for the subscription. It's the same.
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I'm not really trying to convince them of anything. But I am confused as to why you think that $20 changes into anything else regardless of how it's spent - either as a subscription or on a cash shop. If a player bought a CREDD for $20 and then sold it to another player, said player would, currently, use it on their sub time, essentially substituting it for $15/month. If in f2p that second player instead used it on the cash shop, that... is still $20 that Carbine got, and the player then has to spend $15 of their own money to subscribe.
 
Nice snark, though, I guess?	
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I'm not really trying to convince them of anything. But I am confused as to why you think that $20 changes into anything else regardless of how it's spent - either as a subscription or on a cash shop. If a player bought a CREDD for $20 and then sold it to another player, said player would, currently, use it on their sub time, essentially substituting it for $15/month. If in f2p that second player instead used it on the cash shop, that... is still $20 that Carbine got, and the player then has to spend $15 of their own money to subscribe.
 
Nice snark, though, I guess?
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Okay... yeesh. It hadn't occurred to me to think about people with stockpiled credd. Sorry. o.0
 
But I would be correct in stating that CREDD bought following F2P transition would still be $20, regardless of whether or not it was spent as a sub or on the cash shop, I think. Which is basically the point I was presenting.
 
Didn't mean to *cupcake* you off though. x___x	
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Okay... yeesh. It hadn't occurred to me to think about people with stockpiled credd. Sorry. o.0
 
But I would be correct in stating that CREDD bought following F2P transition would still be $20, regardless of whether or not it was spent as a sub or on the cash shop, I think. Which is basically the point I was presenting.
 
Didn't mean to *cupcake* you off though. x___x
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Yeah, fair enough--sorry for jumping all over you about it. I guess I've seen enough people playing the system over the years that I just assume everyone keeps in mind how the system gets played.
 
I think I agree with you that if they were starting a CREDD exchange from scratch when the game goes F2P, then it would be a different story entirely. But that's not the situation we're in unless they were to invalidate all existing CREDD, and I don't think they can really do that.
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