105913-commodity-exchange-issue

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			Noticed an issue with the pricing on the Commodity Exchange today. When you go to buy say an amp, you find the amp you want in the list and it says its selling for 2 plat. This is not the lowest sell price. If you mouseover the i on the left hand of the pricing field it will tell you the 3 lowest sell orders. Every one I mouseover has lower prices available compared to the price listed for buy it now. For example, To the pain is listed for almost 3 plat when I look at it, but when I mouseover this little i it tells me the cheapest up is 89g. I lower the price in the buy now box and buy it for the lower price. Why do we not see the lowest price when looking at the CE? Who knows how much money I have wasted since launch because of this.	
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			if this is true then this is by far one of the biggest bugs I have come across but not even known about. This frustrates me quite a bit and should not need to be found by someone that has to mouse over something and then change a price based on that. If I sort by lowest buy out I want that to be the first thing I see not something that is quite a bit higher and then me manually having to change it...	
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The "Buy Now" tab lists the average price (I think), not the lowest. The Buy Order tab is where you want to look.
I think it's working as intended, just really unclear.
I also think you only get charged the actual price, not what you "saw".
 
Edit: Checked ingame and confirmed. Just confusing UI stuff, nothing to see here, par for the Wildstar course. You haven't wasted any money.	
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			Never use Buy Now or Sell Now. Always Buy Order and Sell Order. You will get stuff for cheaper 99% of the time and you will make more money selling 99% of the time. :)	
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It shows the average price of the cheapest 50 of an item.
 
Say you want 10 Bloodbriar
Even if you type in 10plat and press Buy (around 60s on my server last i checked), the CX will still make you buy the cheapest 10 and you will have used 6gold.
 
The point is that the amount you type in (10plat in this case) is the highest amount of money you want to use (per piece). it doesn't mean it will make you buy the items for that amount of money.
So if you want 40 Bloodbriar at the max price of 67silver per piece then you type in 67silver (and up the count to 40), and say the 27th cheapest bloodbriar starts costing above 67silver you will automatically only buy 26bloodbriar.
 
It's an ingenous system, and people complain about it SO much when they simply don't understand how it works.
 
Hope this helped.	
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So to reiterate the initial point, if I want to buy item X and there are 20 of them on the CX or AH and I sort by lowest price and use that to refine my search I want it to bring up the lowest price item first and then sort from there as they go up. I don't want to sort by lowest and then have to hover over an icon to see that there are lower prices and what they are, then refine my search again to say that the highest I want to pay for the one item I want to be what I found to be the lowest.
 
Can anyone confirm that that is working? With screenshots	
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So to reiterate the initial point, if I want to buy item X and there are 20 of them on the CX or AH and I sort by lowest price and use that to refine my search I want it to bring up the lowest price item first and then sort from there as they go up.
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It shows the average price of the cheapest 50 of an item.
 
Say you want 10 Bloodbriar
Even if you type in 10plat and press Buy (around 60s on my server last i checked), the CX will still make you buy the cheapest 10 and you will have used 6gold.
 
The point is that the amount you type in (10plat in this case) is the highest amount of money you want to use (per piece). it doesn't mean it will make you buy the items for that amount of money.
So if you want 40 Bloodbriar at the max price of 67silver per piece then you type in 67silver (and up the count to 40), and say the 27th cheapest bloodbriar starts costing above 67silver you will automatically only buy 26bloodbriar.
 
It's an ingenous system, and people complain about it SO much when they simply don't understand how it works.
 
Hope this helped.
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That is how it is supposed to work, but in fact is not doing so. I just bought an amp to test, buy it was listed for 43s. The cheapest seller according to the i had it up for 19s. I just left it at the buy it now price of 43s and it actually took 35s from me. Thought I might have missed the one for 19s and it filled the next order, but that one for 19s is still up there. 
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			Seller pays the listing fee. Its 12% according to my tool tip.	
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Seller pays the listing fee. 
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The entire CX is pure shit. It should normalize all prices like the Diablo III Commodity market did. It *cupcake*ed the itemization and drops in the game but would work wonders in an MMO. In Wildstar you can tank/break/control the market so easily. Add to that how ignorant some users are pricing items at a huge loss, just above sell value and things get more complicated. The simple fact that gathered items except the top tier are sold to a vendor shows us how poorly it was planned and implemented. The way it is they might as well remove the CX and bring in a traditional AH. Although they won't because this new system is better for them (insanely less taxing) but much worse for us (not little benefit but no real benefit. A shift click AH buy would provide the same functionality. Tired of having to constantly type in lower amounts until there are enough at the listed price. It always errors out for me with no AH mods.
 
They failed at commodity marketing. They should have looked to Diablo III.	
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Again, we see that the people complaining about the CX are the people that are completely misinformed on how the CX works.
 
There is nothing wrong with the CX (apart from some sloppy UI oddities that addons already fixed), Carbine needs to make an effort in educating the users on it's usage.	
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			Sorry, but you shouldn't need add ons to have something work correctly. I go by what the tooltips in game tell me. Apparently they tell me crap.	
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Sorry, but you shouldn't need add ons to have something work correctly. I go by what the tooltips in game tell me. Apparently they tell me crap.
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That is how it is supposed to work, but in fact is not doing so. I just bought an amp to test, buy it was listed for 43s. The cheapest seller according to the i had it up for 19s. I just left it at the buy it now price of 43s and it actually took 35s from me. Thought I might have missed the one for 19s and it filled the next order, but that one for 19s is still up there. 
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