140029-repair-costs-are-far-too-high

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My guild and I had some newer players so we went and ran GA. Of course we died/wiped etc.  First repair approx. 40 gold. Second repair 50 gold. Third repair 80 gold. (this is approx.) Near 2 plat for repair costs? Come on that's absurd. So here is the consequence to that. To play the game / raid you have to be game wealthy or your cant afford it. If you make a mistake people will jump down your throat, creating a hostile game. People will stop helping others due to the costs of repairs.
 
We had people in raid go broke, could not repair. Repairs should never be game stopping.
 
I have raided since the game came out. Learning new bosses in DS would cost 3, 4, 5..10. plat a run?
 
I love this game and its mechanics. But not so much as that I would tolerate grinding money simply to repair during a raid.
			
				
	Edited October 9, 2015 by Warcrime	
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			Go buy cred and sell it to me ill pay 11 plat, then you guys can wipe as much as you want :3	
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You can easily earn one plat a day by just doing dailies and contracts. I think even more. When you get to elder gem cap you earn even more. The repair cost is not that big of an issue if you have people that play the game. If you have someone that only gets online to raid and thats all then that is their fault and they can suffer. It's extremely easy to make money for just repairs in this game.
 
Pretty much to sum up whats I'm saying. Play the damn game and make money, stop complaining that people cant afford repairs and that its "game stopping" when its not. Tell your guys to get online more and make the morning or deal with it.
			
				
	Edited October 9, 2015 by Buche Maxwell	
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So at level 50 I'll be looking to maintain a decent chunk of change on the side just so I'm sure I'll beable to repair my gear for instance practice? Hmm... No sir, I don't like it. Hopefully not as bad as it sounds.
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			So at level 50 I'll be looking to maintain a decent chunk of change on the side just so I'm sure I'll beable to repair my gear for instance practice? Hmm... No sir, I don't like it. Hopefully not as bad as it sounds.	
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Yeah, people.  Stop hanging out with your friends and go Solo Grind some Dailies so you can afford to hang out with your friends who are too busy Solo Grinding Dailies to hang out with you.  Repair costs are SUPER DUPER important to having fun in this game. 
 
Without Repair Costs people will spend the money they make in game on... They'll spend money on things that aren't Repair Costs!  Like dyeing their costume sets and buying vanity pets and housing décor!  We all know that is NOT good for the game!
 
And... and... PEOPLE WILL BE LAZY, TOO!  If they aren't being punished for their mistakes in a Raid they'll just go into Raids and stand in the BIG RED TELEGRAPH the whole time and not understand why they're dying, because everybody but me is STUPID!  Yeah!  L2P NOOBS!
 
LOL!  I'm trying to support the idea of keeping Repair Costs in this game, but I can't, sorry.
 
Repairing things was a good mechanic in Fallout 3 where you were a Wasteland Scavenger, but it's just bad for MMOs, especially when it's overtuned.
			
				
	Edited October 9, 2015 by Srfrogg23	
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Yeah, people.  Stop hanging out with your friends and go Solo Grind some Dailies so you can afford to hang out with your friends who are too busy Solo Grinding Dailies to hang out with you.  Repair costs are SUPER DUPER important to having fun in this game. 
 
Without Repair Costs people will spend the money they make in game on... They'll spend money on things that aren't Repair Costs!  Like dyeing their costume sets and buying vanity pets and housing décor!  We all know that is NOT good for the game!
 
And... and... PEOPLE WILL BE LAZY, TOO!  If they aren't being punished for their mistakes in a Raid they'll just go into Raids and stand in the BIG RED TELEGRAPH the whole time and not understand why they're dying, because everybody but me is STUPID!  Yeah!  L2P NOOBS!
 
LOL!  I'm trying to support the idea of keeping Repair Costs in this game, but I can't, sorry.
 
Repairing things was a good mechanic in Fallout 3 where you were a Wasteland Scavenger, but it's just bad for MMOs, especially when it's overtuned.
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Don't let the OP scare you off, if he is spending that much then he must be breaking every piece of his gear and then repairing. I'm mostly geared in DS gear and I honestly pay MAYBE 1p a night with repairs. Thats DS gear. Sub raid gear and GA gear you're looking at 10-40G MAYBE for repairs a night. Its not hard to make money in this game, as I said above, do dailies, and other and sell junk and you will 100% be fine with repairs and still have money to blow on poker.
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			In other words just keep active in the game to maintain repair bills like in the old days of WoW.	
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Yeah, people. Stop hanging out with your friends and go Solo Grind some Dailies so you can afford to hang out with your friends who are too busy Solo Grinding Dailies to hang out with you. Repair costs are SUPER DUPER important to having fun in this game. 
 
Without Repair Costs people will spend the money they make in game on... They'll spend money on things that aren't Repair Costs! Like dyeing their costume sets and buying vanity pets and housing décor! We all know that is NOT good for the game!
 
And... and... PEOPLE WILL BE LAZY, TOO! If they aren't being punished for their mistakes in a Raid they'll just go into Raids and stand in the BIG RED TELEGRAPH the whole time and not understand why they're dying, because everybody but me is STUPID! Yeah! L2P NOOBS!
 
LOL! I'm trying to support the idea of keeping Repair Costs in this game, but I can't, sorry.
 
Repairing things was a good mechanic in Fallout 3 where you were a Wasteland Scavenger, but it's just bad for MMOs, especially when it's overtuned.
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In other words just keep active in the game to maintain repair bills like in the old days of WoW.
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			I can sympathize. The repair costs seem to have skyrocketed in F2P. I spent about a plat last night helping a guildie get attuned with dungeons. I don't mind the wiping, but I'm a little worry what's gonna happen when I start raiding again. I would like to note that the time I spent in dungeons was about the time I spend raiding. The different being, I would spend less money on repair bills raiding before F2P.	
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WoW has repair costs even to this day, but they aren't so high as to prevent people doing content. You might pay 50-80+ gold in WoW for repairs at lvl cap, but the percent of income spent on repair is vastly different. 
 
1p (100g) in W* is a lot harder to come bye than 100g in WoW no matter how you slice it. The punishment exceeds the crime. 
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 If you have someone that only gets online to raid and thats all then that is their fault and they can suffer.
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Go buy cred and sell it to me ill pay 11 plat, then you guys can wipe as much as you want :3
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Yeah, people.  Stop hanging out with your friends and go Solo Grind some Dailies so you can afford to hang out with your friends who are too busy Solo Grinding Dailies to hang out with you.  Repair costs are SUPER DUPER important to having fun in this game. 
 
Without Repair Costs people will spend the money they make in game on... They'll spend money on things that aren't Repair Costs!  Like dyeing their costume sets and buying vanity pets and housing décor!  We all know that is NOT good for the game!
 
And... and... PEOPLE WILL BE LAZY, TOO!  If they aren't being punished for their mistakes in a Raid they'll just go into Raids and stand in the BIG RED TELEGRAPH the whole time and not understand why they're dying, because everybody but me is STUPID!  Yeah!  L2P NOOBS!
 
LOL!  I'm trying to support the idea of keeping Repair Costs in this game, but I can't, sorry.
 
Repairing things was a good mechanic in Fallout 3 where you were a Wasteland Scavenger, but it's just bad for MMOs, especially when it's overtuned.
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			https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/140151-f2p-update-economy-and-tradeskills-100915/this should be stickyed :)	
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@Krystyn
 
Nobody on this thread was complaining about the game being "too hard".  I was not complaining about the difficulty.  I actually rather enjoy the challenge of the dungeons, etc.
 
Let me get you up to speed:
 
1.  The first post stated that the repair costs are too high and it is causing issues for people running raids.  People get hostile as their bank account starts to drain because of the repair costs caused by group wipes, that is making people not want to participate.
 
2.  Someone said "go do daily zones so you can afford the repair costs" and "stop complaining about the repair costs".
 
3.  Daily Zones are FILLER CONTENT, they are SINGLE PLAYER CONTENT, and they are BORING.  The only thing you should be using Daily Zones for is keeping yourself occupied while you're waiting to do something else.
 
4.  Daily Zones should not be a "mandatory requirement" for participating in Group Content in an MMO because people need to grind money for Repair Costs.
 
5.  For those of us who do have lives and only so much time to play on a given day, we don't want to waste our time grinding out cash in a Daily Zone simply so we can afford the Repair Costs when we could be doing the Group Content with our friends instead (you know, the FUN and CHALLENGING content with OTHER PEOPLE).
 
Did that help to clarify things for you at least a little bit?  See, no one was complaining about the game being "too hard", and this is a separate issue entirely.  I want the challenging content, but grinding money for repairs is not "challenging" or "difficult" in the slightest, it's just a waste of time and it's boring as hell.
			
				
	Edited October 10, 2015 by Srfrogg23	
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			Of course you can do dailies to recoup money, but the point is, you shouldn't have to spend hours doing dailies to go raiding. I've done the dailies to death and am sick of them. I enjoy raiding for the challenge. Games are supposed to be fun not work. They have increased the cost of repairs and lowered the money earned via dailies.	
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