142632-new-players-perspective

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			Hello, as the title suggests I am a fresh player with the free to play launch.  I have plaid World of Warcraft for on and off 8 years doing progression raiding and semi high end pvp.  I've really enjoyed the Combat style in this game, it offers a unique challenge and engaging experience.  The questing was fast enough that I didn't get bogged down but not so light that I ran out of things to do and the dungeons offered decent rewards for time invested.  Now sitting at max level looking at what to do for the past couple days all I can say is the community in game is ruining it for me.  Upon hitting 50 a quest sends you straight to Veteran Dungeons, I realize now after that this is a mistake for a fresh 50 but it certainly isn't out fault for attempting what a quest asks you to do.  I immediately got booted from the group and told I don't belong there.  So I waited an appalling time in an adventure queue only to have those people tell me as well I was not geared enough.  I took all the money I had and bought some pvp gear raising my ilvl to 68 which from reading Reddit and the likes is reasonable to begin Veteran content.  I spent the remains of my mats and gold on Runes, as I understand this is where the majority of your power ultimately comes from.  5 dungeons later, within 1 wipe on any boss the group votes to disband.  I just don't get it, its like players that run these have zero tolerance for the new players to the game and can't possibly stand for learning a brand new mechanic.  So is it back to questing to farm up some gear so that maybe we can simply muscle down the bosses and not worry about mechanics?  Seems silly to expect all players to have full knowledge of an encounter prior to seeing it and to be doing the theoretical maximum dps of their given ilvl.  Don't know how many people will see this or care about it at all, but thought I'd share my experience thus far with what I was hoping would be an awesome endgame experience but has turned out to be extremely disheartening.	
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			Sadly it happens, I would suggest you to find a guild and farm gear with them it's better than running dungeons with jerk people who fails and blame you saying that is your fault because you're undergeared or because you're Free. 	
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Do contracts >expeditions>adventures>dungeons
 
Make sure you buy the genesis key form the elder gem vendor first
 
Community will always be rotten when it comes to admitting and learning from their mistakes, dont really understand why ppl solo queue only to complain their group is not perfect or tailor made to them -_-	
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			Speaking about contracts, it only unlocks at lvl 50?	
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			I have a guild with friends from World of Warcraft, they aren't all 50 yet so I'm stuck trying to run content with other people.  I know I can solo queue for expeditions, but that takes the fun out of an MMO for me.  I probably made a mistake in creating my toon on the PVP server, but with insane queue times and a big desire to really play the game I risked it.  I dont know what contracts are, how does one do that?  And at what ilvl are you considered worthy of attempting a vet dungeon?	
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Speaking about contracts, it only unlocks at lvl 50?
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I have a guild with friends from World of Warcraft, they aren't all 50 yet so I'm stuck trying to run content with other people.  I know I can solo queue for expeditions, but that takes the fun out of an MMO for me.  I probably made a mistake in creating my toon on the PVP server, but with insane queue times and a big desire to really play the game I risked it.  I dont know what contracts are, how does one do that?  And at what ilvl are you considered worthy of attempting a vet dungeon?
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	!Contracts	
 
Contracts are... sort of like dailies? They can be found on a large board in the dailies area of your capital city. I only play dominion, so in Illium these are behind the taxi near spaceport alpha. You will see a LOT of players crowded around. This daily area has your pvp, adventure, dungeon, and expedition dailies all in one place.
 
The contract board also has some Protostar people in front of it. Should be easy to recognize.
 
You complete contracts to fill your contract bar, each level of the bar gives you a little treasure chest to open. You can choose from 2 gear options, or some crating/misc stuff if the gear is not an upgrade for you.
 
Contracts include things like "Interrupt X targets" "Kill X number of prime enemies" "Complete a veteran adventure" 
 
Because of the nature of the contracts, they are largely things that can be completed just by playing the game normally. Always pick up contracts first before you go about your usual wildstar business. WIth the exception of T3 contracts, they kind of complete themselves.
			
				
	Edited October 12, 2015 by Kezra	
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			I have 2400 AP currently, in a mix of season 2 pvp gear and renown gear.  I've read the reddit post about fresh 50s not really supposed to be queuing for Vet Dungeons and whatnot.  As for practicing, yeah that is a big factor, but the queues to get into a group expedition or adventure are longer than a vet dungeon.  And its not like I'm getting kicked now, its just the zero tolerance for failure displayed in the random groups is really sad.  Makes me kinda not want to queue at all, which is what I was most excited about, doing end game pve content.  Maybe it will lighten up as more 50s hit max level, I don't know. 	
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You can do contracts whenever, but they wont all really be level appropriate. Like sometimes the T3 contract is "Complete a veteran adventure" which obviously cant be done sub 50
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When the game was new you NEEDED "gold" to get anything out of a dungeon.
 
This was around the time most of the people that left, left.
 
Its long since been patched and you can get sweet results even when failing to get bronze.
 
I was among those who felt this change shouldn't be needed... but too many people play not to have fun, but to be giving a little shiny star...
 
So they changed it.
 
 
BUT a lot of these returning players might not yet realize this... and if they keep voting to disband they might not ever realize it...
 
So they're instead wasting even MORE time in queues, rather than just soldiering through and getting their shinies...
 
My only solution is to suggest getting into a guild or a 'static group' that you run with regularly so you can avoid these fools until they realize we're in 'Drop 6' now, not Drop 1 when they left, and things have changed...
 	
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			I'm so sorry this happened to you. The community (at least on Entity) has been pretty great but there are those that don't fit that mold of course. I would suggest when hitting 50 to start doing contracts and dailies to get some gear and money. As for group content I would say go expeditions > adventures > dungeons > raids. This way you will work your way through the levels and be able to pick up the gear that you need. Another option would be to find a guild of like minded players to join. This way you will have people to talk to and that will help you. One thing about Wildstar's combat/content is that it does take communication to run smoothly. It's not just stand and shoot. If this happens where you get a bad group just try and let it run off your back and find another one. Most of the groups that I have found (and have been a part of) have been willing to help and explain the fights especially now that F2P has come around as there are so many new players. Please don't take the impatient ones as what the Wildstar Community is about there are a lot of us that are happy to help and teach, I think you have just been unlucky in the groups that you have gotten :( Hope things turn around for the better for you!  	
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Community will always be rotten when it comes to admitting and learning from their mistakes, dont really understand why ppl solo queue only to complain their group is not perfect or tailor made to them -_-
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			I appreciate the tips, I found a couple people to run some Vet content with through zone chat (sadly Warhound is fairly devoid of people wanting to group up and PvE it seems).  Got a couple nice pieces so that was good.  The pugs weren't much different save for the fact that the group we queued with had the power to stop a disband, but a lot bailed after one wipe, or we did have two 120 geared players dicking around with us which was interesting (healer taking off gear and refusing to heal the tank, that stuff).  The forum responses are a nice sign that people are at least not all like the pugs haha :) 	
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Being a TERA player since July 2015 and Dragon Nest player since June 2013, one of my friends in tera suggested me to try this game.
 
Their art style, as well as gameplay made me confused as i'm used more on Asian MMOs (mainly Japanese/Korean). their interfaces are somewhat confusing, so i intented to add their addons in order to fit my TERA experience.
 
I play this game and dragon nest as my submain for my Tumblr blog.
 
Quests are somewhat very unique, their dubbings are excellent and very enjoyable, lores are somewhat very numerous via books scattered everywhere, some of their achievements are unique and far by comparison with other mmos.
 
Instance matching here was mainly PvP, unlike tera that requires Lvl 20 (PvE), Lvl 30 (PvP) to be unlocked, this instance match was accessed at earlier levels, even if my character was Lvl9 at that time.
 
Runecrafting is somewhat strange to me, i asked them when i'm talking about enchanting and crafting, they told me that it was somewhat mixed of enchanting and crafting, their rune slots are similar to placing crystals in weapons/armours
 
I still can't remember the rest, sorry.
 
According to my older cousin, this game was somewhat similar to Cabal he's playing.
 
(excuse for my english, as it wasn't my native language)	
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Hello, as the title suggests I am a fresh player with the free to play launch.  I have plaid World of Warcraft for on and off 8 years doing progression raiding and semi high end pvp.  I've really enjoyed the Combat style in this game, it offers a unique challenge and engaging experience.  The questing was fast enough that I didn't get bogged down but not so light that I ran out of things to do and the dungeons offered decent rewards for time invested.  Now sitting at max level looking at what to do for the past couple days all I can say is the community in game is ruining it for me.  Upon hitting 50 a quest sends you straight to Veteran Dungeons, I realize now after that this is a mistake for a fresh 50 but it certainly isn't out fault for attempting what a quest asks you to do.  I immediately got booted from the group and told I don't belong there.  So I waited an appalling time in an adventure queue only to have those people tell me as well I was not geared enough.  I took all the money I had and bought some pvp gear raising my ilvl to 68 which from reading Reddit and the likes is reasonable to begin Veteran content.  I spent the remains of my mats and gold on Runes, as I understand this is where the majority of your power ultimately comes from.  5 dungeons later, within 1 wipe on any boss the group votes to disband.  I just don't get it, its like players that run these have zero tolerance for the new players to the game and can't possibly stand for learning a brand new mechanic.  So is it back to questing to farm up some gear so that maybe we can simply muscle down the bosses and not worry about mechanics?  Seems silly to expect all players to have full knowledge of an encounter prior to seeing it and to be doing the theoretical maximum dps of their given ilvl.  Don't know how many people will see this or care about it at all, but thought I'd share my experience thus far with what I was hoping would be an awesome endgame experience but has turned out to be extremely disheartening.
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			I'm not here to complain or whine, simply showing how these diehards as you put it come across to a new player in this game.  The game needs players to continue playing in order for it to survive and shunning the newer players without providing any degree of help is not a way to maintain a player base.  The point of the post was in hopes that there were possibly others like me that we could reach out and maybe group up, it also was for the older players to maybe take a step back and see the game from our eyes.  The community on the forums has been exceptionally friendly which is a nice sight.  I don't expect every random person I group with to be a nice person, this is the internet and my skin is thick, but to go into queue after queue and see repeated behavior, in my opinion warranted a trip to the forums to see if this was the norm and to let others know its impact.	
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