146697-wildstar-too-war-oriented

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			This is probably gonna be unpopular but here I go.Disclaimer: my English is at best barely understandable, do forgive my mistakes :PI'm lvl 26 and at Whitevale at the moment, but while I was leveling in Galeras I couldn't help but wish it was over already and I could move on. Something was bothering me about it, and then I realized what it was:It was all too Michael bay ish. Oh look! Tanks! Misile Launchers! Canons! Look they are so cool! War is so fun.I was suddenly a soldier in a very american-like manner. I was supposed to feel badass because of it. You're in the army! A badass now. The game is constantly sending this kind of signals, the speech of some npcs, the lingo...And then characters die nonstop and no one gives a crap. "They were doing their duty" and we move on. Nothing is heartfelt, there's no emotion. I first noticed when the pregnant woman dies at the beginning... Was a truly wtf moment for me.Maybe it's because I've mostly played Asian mmos and they have a radical different feel to them. This one feels too American, but in the bad, stereotypical, cliche way. (It also does it in the cool way! Aka Firefly)I don't want to be a soldier. I certainly don't feel cool for it. I want to unravel the eldan mystery and discover this beautiful world. Of course I understand because of the faction thing I am expected to kill dominion, I have no problem doing that from time to time. It's the horrid war movie setting and glorifying that bothers me.TLDR: I found the glorifying of war in Galeras immature, tiresome, and insulting. Thoughts?
			
				
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Once you level up more and follow the story it becomes less about war and more about fighting something else.. I don't wanna ruin it for you. I personally find the cinematic scenes to be amazing as well as the voice acting. I absolutely enjoyed leveling up due to the story line and how the plot continued to advance into this unknown thing and then BLAM! wtfcherrios?! It really does pay off to continue through all the military junk and then build into the rest of the story. Being level 26, you have barely scratched the surface of what's really happening. Just don't give up!! ;)
 
p.s. I suppose I'm also rather desensitized to military stuff since I'm active-duty military... but meh. I find all their "military lingo" and stereotypical situations quite silly.	
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I just wish that not like 90% of all quests were kill quests.
The game rushes you alot and about all you ever have to do (questwise) is kill something. I had to take some time off now and then and just leveled my scientist or enjoyed the scenery.
 
I doubt that there will ever be an xpack, but if so hopefully Carbine gives the game some quiet moments, some side activities like fishing, some rather relaxing areas with less mob density and some more quest diversity.
But then, there is also no studio so resistant to learn from their own (and other companies') mistakes, so i wouldn't bet on any improvement in that matter.	
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That's great! Gives me hope for later areas. While for now Whitevale fortunately lacks the Galeras warzone thing, it is kinda dull ha-ha. I want to explore another eldan ruins already. 
 
And yeah, I read the granok dialogue at some parts and picture the devs high fiveing.. And wonder how can that appeal to anyone over 12 yo. :(	
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I just wish that not like 90% of all quests were kill quests.
The game rushes you alot and about all you ever have to do (questwise) is kill something. I had to take some time off now and then and just leveled my scientist or enjoyed the scenery.
 
I doubt that there will ever be an xpack, but if so hopefully Carbine gives the game some quiet moments, some side activities like fishing, some rather relaxing areas with less mob density and some more quest diversity.
But then, there is also no studio so resistant to learn from their own (and other companies') mistakes, so i wouldn't bet on any improvement in that matter.
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			Yes that was also an issue... Like the humanoid birds fortress in Galeras. So much stuff going on, such high mob density, it was stressful.	
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Wildstar leveling is nothing special. it's classic abc from questhub to questhub. the game's world and zone story is ok, the tasks are very boring.
The war theme is not really a huge part of the total amount of quests. you will see.	
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			There is Grimvault, where the world story really starts. But also there is Holocrypt technology, people dieing usually isn't permanent, so why be sad?	
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My opinion differs from the ops opinion as I love the whole war aspect, it kind of reminds me of Star Troopers where you have landed on an unknown planet having to setup shop and kill stuff.  I really do not mind the kill quests because for me I find the combat near the top of my favorite list for things I love about Wildstar and although the bio-dome zones I have just done and the shiphand with the oxygen like tanks were one of the worst ive seen so far it hasn't really soured my experience of the game.
 
It's the first game were ive actually went off the broken path just to see what is over there as more times than not ive found something hidden away that I would have otherwise missed had I not done it. Im loving the story so far and all the little bits of humor that are scattered about the game especially the level up announcer which I get a chuckle at everytime I level up. I suppose it just depends what your cup of tea is when it comes to games and for me other than the occasional lag Wildstar is ticking the right boxes......wither that changes at end game I do now know I just know that im having alot of fun.	
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Every zone has a different theme. You don't need 100% completion of any zone to hit level 50, so if you're not enjoying a zone and aren't a stressed-out completionist, move on.
 
One thing is for certain though, every zone is about killing something. Be it soldiers from the other faction, one of the myriad other races, corrupted creatures, strange aliens, sentient robots or fluffy critters, you'll lay waste to it all in the name of saving the world :)
 
It's a feature of the MMO genre that your character tends to run around committing mass genocide in the name of 'doing good'. How does that work exactly? Often our characters find themselves stressing over how important it is to save one life here or there, yet leaving behind them a trail of literally thousands of bodies. Bizarre really when you think about it.
 
But it is of course only a game and everything we just annihilated will respawn in a few seconds time right in front of our eyes, usually before we've even finished our quest! :)	
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I wish we could just /hug our way to victory. :(
 
So much blood. So, so much.
 	
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			^ that's not what I meant at all. I don't mind death. But this is meaningless. There's death, but not drama. It's... sterile? I don't know, but the storytelling is poor and the warmongering pointless and in bad taste.	
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This is probably gonna be unpopular but here I go.
 
Disclaimer: my English is at best barely understandable, do forgive my mistakes :p
 
I'm lvl 26 and at Whitevale at the moment, but while I was leveling in Galeras I couldn't help but wish it was over already and I could move on. Something was bothering me about it, and then I realized what it was:
 
It was all too Michael bay ish. Oh look! Tanks! Misile Launchers! Canons! Look they are so cool! War is so fun.
 
I was suddenly a soldier in a very american-like manner. I was supposed to feel badass because of it. You're in the army! A badass now. The game is constantly sending this kind of signals, the speech of some npcs, the lingo...
 
And then characters die nonstop and no one gives a crap. "They were doing their duty" and we move on. Nothing is heartfelt, there's no emotion. I first noticed when the pregnant woman dies at the beginning... Was a truly wtf moment for me.
 
Maybe it's because I've mostly played Asian mmos and they have a radical different feel to them. This one feels too American, but in the bad, stereotypical, cliche way. (It also does it in the cool way! Aka Firefly)
 
I don't want to be a soldier. I certainly don't feel cool for it. I want to unravel the eldan mystery and discover this beautiful world. Of course I understand because of the faction thing I am expected to kill dominion, I have no problem doing that from time to time. It's the horrid war movie setting and glorifying that bothers me.
 
Thoughts?
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One thing is for certain though, every zone is about killing something. Be it soldiers from the other faction, one of the myriad other races, corrupted creatures, strange aliens, sentient robots or fluffy critters, you'll lay waste to it all in the name of saving the world :)
 
It's a feature of the MMO genre that your character tends to run around committing mass genocide in the name of 'doing good'. How does that work exactly? Often our characters find themselves stressing over how important it is to save one life here or there, yet leaving behind them a trail of literally thousands of bodies. Bizarre really when you think about it.
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I never said anything about gameplay so dunno why bring that up. o.o
Also the fact I played Asian mmos doesn't mean I like everything about them. The oversexualised female chars in the one thing that grates me to no end. I also never said they are superior, just different.
 
Like i said I dislike the "war is cool and being in it makes you awesome" message I felt shoved down my throat in Galeras, and the lack of the feeling and storytellibg required to well, make it less stupid. 
 
But some posters already said it will become less and less important so all will be well. :)	
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I disagree.
 
First emotions is something you create, not that something someone is serving you.
 
Secondly, I beg to differ that nobody cared about pregnant woman dying on the shot down pod. I am pretty sure Brightland did care a lot, it was HIS wife.
 
I am sure that the moment you cut down dehonested body of single law enforcer who stood up against cartel, people do care about that.
 
I am sure that aurin and mordesh in celestion were pretty expressed and emotional about chua destroying ancient talking tree....
 
there is so mcuh going on and if you see only "yeeee haaaaw boooom" then there is something wrong with your perception of whats going on, no with the game.
			
				
	Edited November 10, 2015 by Jayvi	
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I wish we could just /hug our way to victory. :(
 
So much blood. So, so much.
 
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I am sure that aurin and mordesh in celestion were pretty expressed and emotional about chua destroying ancient talking tree....
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there is so mcuh going on and if you see only "yeeee haaaaw boooom" then there is something wrong with your perception of whats going on, no with the game.
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The war is part of the premise.  We're fighting for control of the planet.  If you want a game about putting on panties and thigh boots and assaulting giant ticks, there are plenty of titles out there that'll give you what you want.  This one's about the war on Nexus.
 
There is a lot of death, but you're generally expected to feel something when it happens.  If you don't, then the story hasn't gripped you the way it was meant to do.  Troubleshoot that.	
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To be fair, the death of Brightland's wife felt really cheap and artificial, so I can totally understand why the emotional impact of that event would fall flat. Now the destruction of that tree in Everstar - that felt genuine.
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I don't want to be a soldier. I certainly don't feel cool for it. I want to unravel the eldan mystery and discover this beautiful world. Of course I understand because of the faction thing I am expected to kill dominion, I have no problem doing that from time to time. It's the horrid war movie setting and glorifying that bothers me.
 
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You know, death of his wife basically made Deadeye what he is throughout rest of the game - That sort of bitter vigilante who probably making good portion of female comunity drop their panties.. So saying it was artifical... maybe but it has huge impact on the characted and that is far from what I would call "nobody cared".
 
And those were just examples from early game as I didnt want to spoil things from the higher level locations. There is a lot - and I am not telling, as I myslef havent discovered everything and I would hate if somebody spoiled it for me.
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Well  I don't feel like its a horrid war movie.  Its a science fiction adventure, with Chua, malicious, devious, and the most amoral creatures in the universe.  And the Aurin, spirited, easy to please, nature loving,  and respectful. 
 
I could go on more, however I am still confused about your point that this is a horrid war movie mmo. Unless nexus was only filled with Chua then I would stand what you are saying.	
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We are talking about the man who was about to kill my Aurin and Mordesh when he accidentally opened their cryopods because they weren't his wife right? I can't be the only one who finds Deadeye to be a pretty bland character can I? He has the personality of a potato and was a jerk face before his wife got fridged, still is. Heck, Major Aurelis had a really genuine and distraught reaction when the exiles kidnapped and murdered his son.. It was a pretty emotional moment and it clearly devastated him...
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This is probably gonna be unpopular but here I go.
 
Disclaimer: my English is at best barely understandable, do forgive my mistakes :P
 
I'm lvl 26 and at Whitevale at the moment, but while I was leveling in Galeras I couldn't help but wish it was over already and I could move on. Something was bothering me about it, and then I realized what it was:
 
It was all too Michael bay ish. Oh look! Tanks! Misile Launchers! Canons! Look they are so cool! War is so fun.
 
I was suddenly a soldier in a very american-like manner. I was supposed to feel badass because of it. You're in the army! A badass now. The game is constantly sending this kind of signals, the speech of some npcs, the lingo...
 
And then characters die nonstop and no one gives a crap. "They were doing their duty" and we move on. Nothing is heartfelt, there's no emotion. I first noticed when the pregnant woman dies at the beginning... Was a truly wtf moment for me.
 
Maybe it's because I've mostly played Asian mmos and they have a radical different feel to them. This one feels too American, but in the bad, stereotypical, cliche way. (It also does it in the cool way! Aka Firefly)
 
I don't want to be a soldier. I certainly don't feel cool for it. I want to unravel the eldan mystery and discover this beautiful world. Of course I understand because of the faction thing I am expected to kill dominion, I have no problem doing that from time to time. It's the horrid war movie setting and glorifying that bothers me.
 
Thoughts?
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