113539-estimated-wait-time

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This has been bugging me a little lately and I've been checking with friends as well, the Estimated Wait Time that you get when queuing never seems to be even close to the estimate. Doesn't matter what's being queue'd for - PvP, PvE.
 
That's my experience with it at least and it makes me wonder what the point is with an Estimated Wait Time if it's never even close to the estimate?
 
 
Edit: Just to put an example on the table; In queue for a veteran dungeon - Estimated Wait Time is usually around 15 min. The actual dungeon pops somewhere closer to an hour or past it.	
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Sad to admit, but I've slowly stopped playing Wildstar except to log, farm my nodes, and make some auction trades. I hit a slump several weeks ago due to burnout, then came back energetic... only to hit the brick wall that is waiting in queue. I tried PVP and adventures during peak hours and was sitting around for 20-40 minutes each time. I never did get a pop, just logged off deflated.
 
The megaserver announcement lifted my spirits, but there doesn't seem to have been any kind of population increase as a result. Even Stormtalon was still showing Low and the queues aren't worth waiting for. It's pretty much forcing me to join a guild but it seems like they're all struggling, and I don't have the time for a raid schedule. :(
 
I'm really worried about Wildstar right now. As someone else mentioned, megaservers are great, but if it's a chore to make fun group stuff happen because of long queues, the game will continue to suffer.
 
Also, I assume the estimate you get for the queue is based on when the last group began, and not the average wait time— I almost always get 2-10 minutes, yet the queues never pop.	
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			Gotta love it when it turns into 'Unknown' :/It's still very frustrating, I've been trying to get my last dungeon completed since the change and the queue times are still very horrible and people still disbands the groups randomly, after so much wait time. I've been in guilds that ended up just stop playing the game, the guilds around at the moment are either on the raiding stage or have raid commitments that I can't attend. So there aren't many choices :(The Estimated Wait Time is a deterrent and discourages people from playing the game since they are not displayed correctly.Edit:The joy. I understand that 0:04 isn't very realistic unless you are a tank/healer. But it puts you off not knowing a more 'appropriate' estimated wait time.	
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Mhm, getting 'unknown' always sucks! I've been through this before in a few games, particularly WoW, though Blizzard seems to have stabilized their queue system quite a bit with MoP (last I played).
 
One thing to note, my experience with Wildstar's queue system was pretty good for the first few months. It was comfortably accurate and the wait times as a healer were generally in the 5-15 minute range, which is acceptable for me. I think the current off predictions are because of the low number of people queueing— we need active population (across all realms) to generate higher concurrency, which gives the queue estimate something stable to work with.
 
My hope is that seeing more people around in the major cities will encourage folks to use the queue finder. Massage the population, refine the queue system, rebuild confidence.
 
All with time I suppose. :ph34r:	
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That word..  estimated,   don't think it means what you think it means >:D
 
Though it should be closer  but being off an hour or more is okay for an estimated time,   ever been in a DMV  with their estimated wait times?   2 1/2 hour wait time..   been in one for 4 hours..   before..  stared at the ticket saying 2 1/2 hour wait..  :P	
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That word..  estimated,   don't think it means what you think it means > :D
 
Though it should be closer  but being off an hour or more is okay for an estimated time,   ever been in a DMV  with their estimated wait times?   2 1/2 hour wait time..   been in one for 4 hours..   before..  stared at the ticket saying 2 1/2 hour wait..   :P
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What is it an approximate of? It surely shouldn't be estimated based on the last group that went in since it could have been a pre-made group, which is my guess if it estimates the time to be 0:04.
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			It probably is using that,  if a group instantly gets in or even a more desirable class gets in in seconds, it should through your estimation off.     They could split it up like  Estimated wait time for Engineer  4sec.   Estimated wait time for Stalker 5 hours.  :P	
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Gotta love it when it turns into 'Unknown' :/
 
It's still very frustrating, I've been trying to get my last dungeon completed since the change and the queue times are still very horrible and people still disbands the groups randomly, after so much wait time. I've been in guilds that ended up just stop playing the game, the guilds around at the moment are either on the raiding stage or have raid commitments that I can't attend. So there aren't many choices :(
 
 
 
The Estimated Wait Time is a deterrent and discourages people from playing the game since they are not displayed correctly.
 
 
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The joy. I understand that 0:04 isn't very realistic unless you are a tank/healer. But it puts you off not knowing a more 'appropriate' estimated wait time.
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As a healer, I sometimes get them fast ques sometimes being the keyword here. I'm stuck waiting waiting a long time myself,.. the most I waited was over an hour no lie, must have been a slow night. Over all I see around 10 mintue ques, sure thats not as long as dps waits but still thats is a long time for a healer based on other "games"
 
If you want a fast que, go roll a tank, seriously do it you'll get fast ques
 
and instant ques if you got a healer buddy
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That's not the point though, I don't play tank or healer cause I simply don't like it, I'm not asking for fast queue's. What I am asking is that the Estimated Wait Time is more accurately counted. I like Archaell's idea personally.
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			personally i think its bugged often i find that if i choose dps and tank at the same time i almost always get put as a dps and have the wait time of a dps which is odd cus in other games if you choose dps and tank 99.9% of the time you will always be the tank :P  but if i choose just the one role then the timer is also quicker which is odd i say quicker its still like 10 - 20mins as a tank and i just dont bother checking for dps :P but yee thats my two cents on the subject just doesnt feel like its working quite right atm 	
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I was just pointing out to this line here, good sir that even as a healer you don't get them nice lovely short ques :D
 
The joy. I understand that 0:04 isn't very realistic unless you are a tank/healer.
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			There is some algorithm that is used internally to produce the estimates. When you get much longer wait times it's probably because the algorithm doesn't differentiate between roles, and it also is probably being biased by most recent que times; if you enter queue right after a few groups pop their queues it will be biased to a lower number while in reality the queue pool has just been drained and you will have to wait for some time before it fills up again.	
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