Report 1720

Report #1720
Skillset: Nihilism Skill: Symbol
 Org: Magnagora Status: Rejected Jun 2017
Furies' Decision:
No. Thematically, deep pact should be a big deal, not something you switch on a
whim.
Problem: Currently if a Nihilist(or a Celestine due to the nature of a shared
system within our skillsets) wishes to swap their Symbol to another Lord, the
process requires 30p and a lot of back and forth to complete. You must go to the
Demon Lord you have a Symbol from and PACT BREAK with them which cost 10p. Then
you need to PACT with them again so you can regain that Lord's invested
afflictions back for 10p again. Lastly you go back to the Demon Lord whose
Symbol you now want, and PACT DEEP them for 10p more. While thematically this
makes sense as breaking a Pact should be considered a 'big deal', 30p total is
way too much of a cost for this entire process.
[A:12 R: 0] Solution #1: Cut the Power cost for PACT|PACT BREAK|PACT DEEP in
 half to 5p. This makes it 15p total to swap a Symbol
 out for another Lord.
[A:10 R: 0] Solution #2: In addition to halving the Power, change the Power
 Quest requirement for obtaining a Symbol (Spikes from
 the Lord's Monument for Nihilist and however
 Supplicants are done for Celestines) to where when
 PACT BREAK is performed, it clears the counter for
 that Lord. This means you would need to perform the
 required number of Spikes/Supplicants for each Symbol
 EVERY time you swap, to keep the 'burden' of the
 process thematically. This also prevents someone who
 has the required Power Quest level for each Lord from
 just swapping instantly on the fly for 15p
[A:13 R: 0] Solution #3: Also if possible, have PACT DEEP tell you how many
 Spikes/Supplicants you require to complete the deep
 pact. Currently you are only told: You have not
 trapped enough souls with the spikes of Supreme
 Master Luciphage to attempt to form a deep pact. My
 suggestion would be: You must trap <number> souls
 with the spikes of Supreme Master Luciphage to
 attempt to form a deep pact.
Player Comments:
---[Thalkros on 6/12 @ 01:29 sets as pending]
---[Aeldra on 6/12 @ 18:54 writes]:
I do like all three solutions. Especially a fan of solution 2 and 3 in addition,
allowing the flavour and ease of use.
---[Ciaran on 6/12 @ 19:32 writes]:
Supported
---[Shedrin on 6/12 @ 22:54 writes]:
For comparison, changing to a different Harmonics Crystalweapon only required
10p to make a new one.
---[Wobou on 6/13 @ 02:29 writes]:
I like these solutions as well. Solution 2 I think is unnecessary balance-wise
but good flavor. Solutions 1 and 3 are good QoL solutions.
---[Thalkros on 6/14 @ 22:05 finalises]
---[Xenthos on 6/17 @ 00:30 writes]:
I will note that solution 1 also lowers the cost the first time (not just
switching) which is, for some reason, not mentioned-- but is also not really a
problem. Seems fine enough though, and solution 3 is good too.