124881-can-we-change-community-a-question-to-you-all

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Where ever I read the people are saying:
 
"I would return but there is no players"
"No one plays the game, what's the point in playing it"
"The game is dead"
 
Let us as a community who love this game fight back, let's start spreading the word that their are still people here, that the population is slowly coming back, the vast majority of problems from launch are fixed and this game is not dead!!!!
 
The population will never rise if people wait for others to make it rise.
 
We as a community need to stop harbouring this mentality and start a journey together, let's call it "The last march of the Jabbits!"
 
Spread the word, the game is far from over!	
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Been there....done that
 
The problem is not our community or even the internet trolls.....it's Carbine! What word can you spread when the game studio does nothing, and says even less to promote the game?	
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As Ministabber pointed out, all of this would go away in a second if Carbine would just for once open its mouth. 
All these rumors keep gaining momentum because they keep their lips shut. 
 
 
So where does this lead us? 
 
Either they won't say anything because they can't promise us the game will stay P2P 
Or they won't say anything because its true and fear a run on the game. 
 
 
At times it really feels as if Carbine actually doesn't care.
 
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 	Player Help » No support on weekend? (0)Omeed
Carbine Studios Staff
Yesterday, 11:59 PM
I can confirm there is CS on the weekends.  :) Sorry that it's taking longer than you'd like. It's never fun to wait instead of play.
 
Wait times are variable depending on the number of tickets coming in - and, as Chillia said, we're seeing a lot of returning players, so that might be contributing.
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			As you have both pointed out they can't do anything, because what ever they do will fan the flames. Maybe before they can rebuild the firemen (us) need to put the flames out?Don't be so defeatist, yes they are quiet but so are a million other companies. Now is not a time to be segregated, we need to band together for the greater good of this game.	
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You can go ahead, but they've lost the privilege of my support until they fix the issues with this mysterybox event.
 
Also, there's a thread on this matter	
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As you have both pointed out they can't do anything, because what ever they do will fan the flames. Maybe before they can rebuild the firemen (us) need to put the flames out?
 
Don't be so defeatist, yes they are quiet but so are a million other companies. Now is not a time to be segregated, we need to band together for the greater good of this game.
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Even so they can help promote events that we do for everyone on the server and things like that but so far I've seen no support from them.
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			Because we still had some kind of hope half a year ago	
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Even so they can help promote events that we do for everyone on the server and things like that but so far I've seen no support from them.
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			I try.  I tell everyone of my friends that WS is awesome, that the gameplay is fantastic, that the story is great.  I talk it up, I play like mad, and then I come on the forums and I see nothing but negativity and shit.  It's heartbreaking.  I do what I can to try to damage control the hate but this forum community is so far gone that I feel like I'm throwing deck chairs off the Titanic in hopes it won't sink.	
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This is why the forum needs to stop with the hate. There is no point standing in the bloody rain and complaining its raining.
 
Lets work together! The population is increasing, the problems are getting addressed, now is a great time to spread the word!	
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This is why the forum needs to stop with the hate. There is no point standing in the bloody rain and complaining its raining.
 
Lets work together! The population is increasing, the problems are getting addressed, now is a great time to spread the word!
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Hey folks, we do already have two threads dedicated to the box promo and payment model discussions. Lets keep that conversation to the main thread and not here. 
 
Thanks.
- Team WildStar 	
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Been there....done that
 
The problem is not our community or even the internet trolls.....it's Carbine! What word can you spread when the game studio does nothing, and says even less to promote the game?
 
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That's a big problem.  Right now, I'm trying to convince a bunch of people who have so far stayed out of Wildstar for fears it will go F2P, and I've got nothing to convince them it won't besides proof of the increasing population I can show them.  You'd be amazed how many people figure that even if the game would succeed as a sub, NCSoft won't keep it that way because they're NCSoft.  I understand they can't ever say it's not going F2P because they can't guarantee it won't, they don't have Square's reputation for standing strong in the pocket, but they could at least come out and say it's not currently in the works if it isn't.
 
Anyway, the whole gamble-box-on-the-game-box has me pretty disappointed.  Enough that I've got plans in place in case the game actually is headed F2P.  At least I've got a place to go.
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Kinda interested in what game that might be.. .
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This is why the forum needs to stop with the hate. There is no point standing in the bloody rain and complaining its raining.
 
Lets work together! The population is increasing, the problems are getting addressed, now is a great time to spread the word!
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I'm proof that the population is increasing. Just started last week and I am having a blast!
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I'm proof that the population is increasing. Just started last week and I am having a blast!
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Been there....done that
 
The problem is not our community or even the internet trolls.....it's Carbine! What word can you spread when the game studio does nothing, and says even less to promote the game?
 
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Are they not doing a huge box promotion?  Cutting the cost to increase the playerbase, while simultaneously giving people an incentive to join with new mounts?
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When I ask people what they love about wildstar the community is often one of the most mentioned.
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And how many people quit last week? Welcome to the game, I hope you'll have a blast, but your being here is proof of nothing. The biggest reason people think this game is dead is not because of unfounded rumors, it's the fact that we only have 2 servers to choose from, one of which is unquestionably dead. That's no rumor. Every week we have people on these forums saying they just picked up the game, but it's completely dead and they're always met with a wall of players telling them to change servers. Now, how many people never even head to the forums? I'll bet it's a lot.
The devs are listening
But they won't communicate
 
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Then why is the forum so full of hate? We have such a great community until they hit the forums and start raging at everyone?
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Then why is the forum so full of hate? We have such a great community until they hit the forums and start raging at everyone?
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And how many people quit last week? Welcome to the game, I hope you'll have a blast, but your being here is proof of nothing. The biggest reason people think this game is dead is not because of unfounded rumors, it's the fact that we only have 2 servers to choose from, one of which is unquestionably dead. That's no rumor. Every week we have people on these forums saying they just picked up the game, but it's completely dead and they're always met with a wall of players telling them to change servers. Now, how many people never even head to the forums? I'll bet it's a lot.
The devs are listening
But they won't communicate
 
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Hi!
 
Please remember that discussion about the game and community etc. is fine, but we do want to refrain from personal attacks or antagonizing people into personal attacks. 
 
I know that people don't like having their threads moved into the appropriate forums, but this does a few things. One, it makes it much better for the developers to actually see what is being discussed about in their section without having to research into it or wait for a 3rd party to tell them that xyz is being discussed. It also lets us (moderators) see what is being discussed and easily identify popular topics in each section. We (mods) don't do it to be mean, but the organization is needed. Where players decide to hang out on the forums, and what they decide to post about is something that I don't have control over. I think there are some pretty busy sections besides just general such as the server forums where events are promoted, housing, even player creations gets quite a bit of traffic. Tradeskills and economy is another section that sees a fair amount of traffic.
 
Of course I'm pretty biased, but I love our community. Whether the posts are overly negative or positive or a mixture in between, I like to read the feedback. I like the diversity. Not so fond of the arguments that some times arise, but hey, it happens. 	
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I know that people don't like having their threads moved into the appropriate forums, but this does a few things.
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Chillia, I totally get it- there are downsides and upsides to how things are organized, and I respect the job you do. One of the downsides at the moment is, I feel, that some of the positive threads do get overlooked. But not moving them has its own downsides and it is what it is.
 
But more than questioning, I was just trying to offer an explanation as to why sometimes the forums can seem overly negative. Outside of "General", I do think people will be more likely to find the more positive community they are looking for.	
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 Outside of "General", I do think people will be more likely to find the more positive community they are looking for.
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			Maybe a new forum category could be created called "Kvetching" and negative posts could be moved there.  Along with all the other organizational maneuvers, then General would just be 100% Morning Coffee :-)	
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