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			BUT SLINGER ONLY HAS  three HEALING SPELLS. JUST THREE. NOPE. NO MORE IN THE SUPPORT TREE, JUST THREE
			
				
	Edited November 11, 2015 by Sylqt	
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			I title this thread: TRUMP PLAYS WILDSTAR. I mean he is literally the best at MMOs. Jumping, he can make himself land wherever he wants all the time. Double jumping... psh he doesn't need it. Casual raiders love him because he is so good at MMOs. Nobody does Mechanics like he does mechanics. Seriously, if he can't play it, it must be terrible game. Everyone who wants to help. They're bad too. Losers and dummies. 
			
				
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@Sly
Really... gtfo. Just go away and never come back to help people...
I told you guys 20 times now. THE GUIDE IS OUTDATED, AN JUST FOLLOWING THE GUIDE DOES NOT WORK!
Read before you post!
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I hope the OP is trolling, this thread is ridiculous.
 
For Gurka, as a general tip I would say, turn around and keep running always when she starts casting. If you are a pro, you can try to interrupt blinding dark but letting it go thru is fine if you're turned away.
 
Also there is no need to heal during her casts. If someone gets hit, they aren't doing the fight correctly. There's also no aoe damage in her auto attack phases so just keep the tank healed and worry about the DPS if you have the time and focus.
 
As a dps there is literally no reason to take damage on that fight unless you are greedy with your dps meters or just playing very badly.	
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			LOL, curious what your your total play time is (/played). I'm sitting at 66 days, 59 days at level 50. I took my time leveling so I could enjoy the content. In closed beta all I did was PVP.	
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Now I know for certain that you are a troll if you are saying that to SlyJeff, who is one of the nicest people I've ever seen on any forum, any where at all.
 
Just because the guide was made a while ago doesn't mean it's outdated if the author of the guide keeps updating it for patches.
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Hilarious, i hope that ALL of you are trolling, and not as... deluisonal as you make yourself look.
 
Everyone who seriously thinks that he provided ANY help at all, should read his initial post again, and think about it.
 
NOBODY here gave ANY help at all, and to make this clear AGAIN
 
 
- "Just reed se guide!" Is NOT helpful, that is what i told you guys in the first place, what i AM CURRENTLY DOING, and that is NOT enough to heal anyone.
- "Duuuuh! come ingame on realm Superbutt 4, then i can tell you what spells are good!" Is ALSO not help, it is plain stupid, why can you write things to me on your server, that you can't write RIGHT HERE???
- "I nevur healslingered, but they MUST have more heals!" Is, once again, NOT help. You don't know the class, you just ASSUME that there HAS to be a good healing alternative. If you actually took the time to look at my spells and see that   EVERY SINGLE SPELL, is basically.. VB, just worse.
 
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU, who thinks that he provided help, is just completely out of his mind. You provided help for someone who knows NOTHING about the game, when i told you in my first posts, that i know how to make builds and everything. Just because the lv 150 guy who plays this game for over 1 1/2 years, is able to SOMEHOW heal his group with this build, doesn't mean that it is still useable after todays patch... He probably was so good, that he fell asleep in the hardest dungeons, and now he has to keep one eye slightly open... for me the difference is NOT THAT... for me the difference went from "being BARELY able to beat 4/6" dungeons, to "barely beating Stormtalon and NOTHING ELSE"...
For me this patch is just the worst, as i already said, the difference between winning and loosing, was so tiny, and now the deves moved that line A MILE towards losing... I have no real chance to heal anything anymore, and NOBODY here could give ANY advice against that.
 
 
Edit: Amazing how Rastrum and his little friends still cling to this stupid guide, even though the guide now basically says "you now heal 25% less, deal with it, there is still nothing better" XD
It is so funny to see people post things, that disagree with that they write.
You SAY that the guide helps me, and the guide just says "deal with it"...
If you are not trolling, seriously, get some help instead of trying to help others...
 
Edit: People that just repost stuff without actually looking, are not nice, they are spam...
READ BEFORE YOU POST! and also... READ WHAT YOU POST! ESPECIALLY LINKS!!!
 
No matter how often you "helpful people" post the guide, i still can't heal with it, it's impossible, without the nerf i was BARELY able to heal, now i am NOWHERE NEAR being able to heal...
			
				
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you even deny us to help you
 
POST YOUR LAS, RUNES AND GEAR
 
WHY?BECAUSE WE WANT TO HELP YOU TWEAK IT IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DO IT ALONE!APPARENTLY YOU ARE NOT AS GOOD AT BUILDING CHARACTERS THAN YOU THINK YOU ARE!!!!!OR YOU'RE LACKING OF SKILL 
			
				
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Hilarious, i hope that ALL of you are trolling, and not as... deluisonal as you make yourself look.
 
Everyone who seriously thinks that he provided ANY help at all, should read his initial post again, and think about it.
 
NOBODY here gave ANY help at all, and to make this clear AGAIN
 
 
- "Just reed se guide!" Is NOT helpful, that is what i told you guys in the first place, what i AM CURRENTLY DOING, and that is NOT enough to heal anyone.
- "Duuuuh! come ingame on realm Superbutt 4, then i can tell you what spells are good!" Is ALSO not help, it is plain stupid, why can you write things to me on your server, that you can't write RIGHT HERE???
- "I nevur healslingered, but they MUST have more heals!" Is, once again, NOT help. You don't know the class, you just ASSUME that there HAS to be a good healing alternative. If you actually took the time to look at my spells and see that   EVERY SINGLE SPELL, is basically.. VB, just worse.
 
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU, who thinks that he provided help, is just completely out of his mind. You provided help for someone who knows NOTHING about the game, when i told you in my first posts, that i know how to make builds and everything. Just because the lv 150 guy who plays this game for over 1 1/2 years, is able to SOMEHOW heal his group with this build, doesn't mean that it is still useable after todays patch... He probably was so good, that he fell asleep in the hardest dungeons, and now he has to keep one eye slightly open... for me the difference is NOT THAT... for me the difference went from "being BARELY able to beat 4/6" dungeons, to "barely beating Stormtalon and NOTHING ELSE"...
For me this patch is just the worst, as i already said, the difference between winning and loosing, was so tiny, and now the deves moved that line A MILE towards losing... I have no real chance to heal anything anymore, and NOBODY here could give ANY advice against that.
 
 
Edit: Amazing how Rastrum and his little friends still cling to this stupid guide, even though the guide now basically says "you now heal 25% less, deal with it, there is still nothing better" XD
It is so funny to see people post things, that disagree with that they write.
You SAY that the guide helps me, and the guide just says "deal with it"...
If you are not trolling, seriously, get some help instead of trying to help others...
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For runes i have
1x6/6 1x4/6 1x3/6 whatever the healer set is called, mosty consisting out of lv 80 runes, and a bunch of lv 50 runes to fill in the blanks...
It's EXTREMELY hard to earn any money in the game as a healer, either your group wins the dungeon, or you show some pitty and try again and again, untill you have 1 plat rep cost and even the last noob agrees that we can disband...
For fusion, i have the obvious ones, 4 of them, i think there i only 1 slot where i could put different runes, and on that slot i have "soothing hands", not the other one.
Besides that i have used all 3 possibilities mentioned in the guide to get more mana reg (2 amps and the spell), which usually allowed me to have always enough mana, if i managed to keep that on cooldown, wich required a long cast.
 
So... there is nothing in the game that makes me stronger, except raids, which i didn't rly want to do in the first place, and spending years on contracts.
 
As i told you, i am pretty much as good equipped as possible, ofc i could get a bit more mana reg and stuff... but what for? to have it reduced by 25% in a week again? I spent the last week only getting runes and stuff, so i can FINALLY pass the small line of keeping my team alive, or not, and this patch has thrown me MILES AWAY from that... 25%... HOW do i make my character 33% stronger now? oO
 
 
Sylq... yes. When i do exactly what the guide says, and it's not enogh... YES, then i DO KNOW BETTER, because if the guy says, that you can still heal with the same build, even though YOUR MAIN SPELL IS NERFED BY -> TWENTY FIVE PERCENT <- ... then that guy is simply insane and wrong XD
Because even before that, you could only barely heal enough, and had to mash the button so fast and pray that the tank doesnt move out of the heal right now...
I am not saying that that's always what happens, but EVERY dungeon has at least one enemy, that is just a "heal output test", i barely managed to pass that test in the past, and now i have NO chance of ever passing it again, because, once again, even lv 120 equip, which i will never see, would not boost me enough to make up for this INSANE nerf...
			
				
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Well, you said it yourself you do know NOTHING ABOUT THIS GAME.
 
Shame people are trying to help you and you're saying they're wrong. You said the guide was wrong. You said people who have been playing for over a year are wrong, you've said ACTUAL HEALSLINGERS are wrong. Your way is not correct, in fact you suck so hard you can't even beat a boss in a dungeon when people were clearing those bosses with ridiculously bad gear and harder encounters.
 
Reason I asked you to come in game so I could help you? So I could go through some content WITH you and see where you were going wrong in the situation you were ACTUALLY HAVING ISSUES WITH and then resolve them with you. BUT NO THATS NOT ACTUAL OFFER OF HELP RIGHT BECAUSE THERES ONLY 3 HEALING SPELLSZ. (sorry my shift key got abused then)
 
But in this case I don't think even any seasoned vet will cure the case of delusion you have going on. I mean, how much time are you wasting typing all this crap? Like, if you're actually annoyed, I honestly would laugh my ass off.	
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Edit: Amazing how Rastrum and his little friends still cling to this stupid guide, even though the guide now basically says "you now heal 25% less, deal with it, there is still nothing better" XD
It is so funny to see people post things, that disagree with that they write.
You SAY that the guide helps me, and the guide just says "deal with it"...
If you are not trolling, seriously, get some help instead of trying to help others...
 
Edit: People that just repost stuff without actually looking, are not nice, they are spam...
READ BEFORE YOU POST! and also... READ WHAT YOU POST! ESPECIALLY LINKS!!!
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Wow... just wow... really? You are asking about my LAS?
 
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https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/128425-enigma-spellslinger-guides/page-2
 
THERE IS MY LAS YOU OH SO HELPFUL PERSON!
 
 
I just cant believe how often you people have posted this stupid thing, and apparently NONE of you have even opened the link...
 
No kidding, how DARE you guys call yourself helpful? You DONT EVEN KNOW what you are linking... geeeee zus....
 
 
Edit: Come on guys, my LAS is EXACTLY as described in the guide. Do you have problems understanding it?
Hurry up and tell me how i can magically do 33% more healing again (which is the boost that you need, to get back to 100%, after someone removed 25%, leaving you with obly 75%)
No 33% heal boost, no decent healing! Fact!
			
				
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Well that guy is one of the best healsligners on wildstar with plenty of people following that guide, so YOU must be doing something wrong and not the game.
 
Now you just have to identify it and rectify it. I know it sucks to admit when you're wrong, but sometimes it helps to go from the ground up and start again. 
 
I play a healslinger all the time and I have 0 issues playing a comparatively weaker build in pve... Are you sure you are positioned right? Are your teammates staying out of red? Is your tank using the appropriate defensives.
 
In all honesty in your gear, with CK's build you should still have no issue healing dungeons.	
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I must admit I have to take my hat off to those still trying to help this guy.  For me it looks like the only right answer to give to the op is the wrong answer for everyone else. 
 
At this point it maybe easier to just cash in your chips and head for the exit as I cannot imagine anything other than a your right response will do at this stage. 	
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For runes i have
1x6/6 1x4/6 1x3/6 whatever the healer set is called, mosty consisting out of lv 80 runes, and a bunch of lv 50 runes to fill in the blanks...
It's EXTREMELY hard to earn any money in the game as a healer, either your group wins the dungeon, or you show some pitty and try again and again, untill you have 1 plat rep cost and even the last noob agrees that we can disband...
For fusion, i have the obvious ones, 4 of them, i think there i only 1 slot where i could put different runes, and on that slot i have "soothing hands", not the other one.
Besides that i have used all 3 possibilities mentioned in the guide to get more mana reg (2 amps and the spell), which usually allowed me to have always enough mana, if i managed to keep that on cooldown, wich required a long cast.
 
So... there is nothing in the game that makes me stronger, except raids, which i didn't rly want to do in the first place, and spending years on contracts.
 
As i told you, i am pretty much as good equipped as possible, ofc i could get a bit more mana reg and stuff... but what for? to have it reduced by 25% in a week again? I spent the last week only getting runes and stuff, so i can FINALLY pass the small line of keeping my team alive, or not, and this patch has thrown me MILES AWAY from that... 25%... HOW do i make my character 33% stronger now? oO
 
 
Sylq... yes. When i do exactly what the guide says, and it's not enogh... YES, then i DO KNOW BETTER, because if the guy says, that you can still heal with the same build, even though YOUR MAIN SPELL IS NERFED BY -> TWENTY FIVE PERCENT <- ... then that guy is simply insane and wrong XD
Because even before that, you could only barely heal enough, and had to mash the button so fast and pray that the tank doesnt move out of the heal right now...
I am not saying that that's always what happens, but EVERY dungeon has at least one enemy, that is just a "heal output test", i barely managed to pass that test in the past, and now i have NO chance of ever passing it again, because, once again, even lv 120 equip, which i will never see, would not boost me enough to make up for this INSANE nerf...
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Wow... just wow... really? You are asking about my LAS?
 
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https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/128425-enigma-spellslinger-guides/page-2
 
THERE IS MY LAS YOU OH SO HELPFUL PERSON!
 
 
I just cant believe how often you people have posted this stupid thing, and apparently NONE of you have even opened the link...
 
No kidding, how DARE you guys call yourself helpful? You DONT EVEN KNOW what you are linking... geeeee zus....
 
 
Edit: Come on guys, my LAS is EXACTLY as described in the guide. Do you have problems understanding it?
Hurry up and tell me how i can magically do 33% more healing again (which is the boost that you need, to get back to 100%, after someone removed 25%, leaving you with obly 75%)
No 33% heal boost, no decent healing! Fact!
 
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This is getting hilarious.... 
 
Do you just want us to tell you to quit or something?
I'm almost at the point I want to cram this information into your brain until you can see the light.
 
It's you vs the world.... you can't do it yada yada but everyone else can? I just went and tried it myself and had no problems with pug group and I even was explaining the fights to some of them.... shit the tank was in ilvl 68-70 pieces and a few ilvl80 from other dungeons... and I ran it in pvp gear X_x
It is solely you with the problem.
 
I'd like to speak to you like a human being on voice comms instead of this giant text war that is going on. I need to understand your logic and rational to better explain it to you because clearly when we spell it out here in text you don't get it. Can you stream? We can see what you are doing and offer advice...
 
Rune matter, LAS matter, rotation matters, pacing your focus matters. There is NO win-all type of button or setup for this. The engima guide is very very good but is NOT the ONLY way to play the class. It is also geared more around raiding than dungeons so you should be taking the advice here over just blindly following the guide. It does sound like you aren't even geared or runed properly either now that you said what you have for those. There are also two different runesets healers can use and you didn't name which one you are using. Money is NOT an issue in this game at all - you can make 10plat or more a night doing PVP BGs to farm runes then just go back to PVE cause you don't even have to win at the BG to get the rewards...
 
There are so many options and answers but you refute every single one of them... why?
Why even continue to post here if no one has given you any help as you say. Why keep playing the game all day just to waste your time and fail dungeons then? 	
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Being slightly helpful, even though I shouldn't...
 
Try out Vince Builds... you can save MULTIPLE LAS profiles. It will change up your abilities based on what you saved to that profile and also match your gear. It won't change your amps though, you either do that manually or buy another LAS so you can have a different amp set up.	
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Wow... just wow... really? You are asking about my LAS?
 
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https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/128425-enigma-spellslinger-guides/page-2
 
THERE IS MY LAS YOU OH SO HELPFUL PERSON!
 
 
I just cant believe how often you people have posted this stupid thing, and apparently NONE of you have even opened the link...
 
No kidding, how DARE you guys call yourself helpful? You DONT EVEN KNOW what you are linking... geeeee zus....
 
 
Edit: Come on guys, my LAS is EXACTLY as described in the guide. Do you have problems understanding it?
Hurry up and tell me how i can magically do 33% more healing again (which is the boost that you need, to get back to 100%, after someone removed 25%, leaving you with obly 75%)
No 33% heal boost, no decent healing! Fact!
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If anyone knows how to not completely suck with a healslinger now, plz tell me. But please no runic healing, i tried that often enough, last time yesterday, and in my damage build, i could not even use that spell to restore health inbetween fights, because it is THAT pathetic. There is just no chance to heal even a lv 120 tank with that garbage. And yes, i do keep salve and the circle heal on cd... just like void pact...
 
 
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You either accept help or just keep failing until you quit but once this post dies. I'm almost 100% sure anyone who has seen it will most likely NEVER try to help or respond to you again. You will isolate yourself in this game with a small community to the point where YOU become the one person insta-kicked from dungeons when people see your name show up. 
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			I know I can be kind of an ass at times... but this really brings that out in me... I will say... lately I have been making a better effort to not explode on someone here on the forums... Now... I dunno.	
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You know then he will just change his name to 4797849658795
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Look man, i"M not reading 8 pages of this *cupcake*-fest.
 
SS healing is still really good!  the buffs are amazing.
 
Read CK Jester's guide.  He's best healslinger out there.
 
Then if you are dying because you can't dodge and heal at the same time, you just need more practice.  Keep doing dungeons until you get good.  Eventually the mechanics get easier, with practice.
 
Yes, you might struggle for a while, but so did everyone else.  Game isn't that hard, mate.  It's just not a faceroll you can do perfectly your first time.  If it was, it wouldn't be fun.	
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For runes i have
1x6/6 1x4/6 1x3/6 whatever the healer set is called, mosty consisting out of lv 80 runes, and a bunch of lv 50 runes to fill in the blanks...
It's EXTREMELY hard to earn any money in the game as a healer, either your group wins the dungeon, or you show some pitty and try again and again, untill you have 1 plat rep cost and even the last noob agrees that we can disband...
For fusion, i have the obvious ones, 4 of them, i think there i only 1 slot where i could put different runes, and on that slot i have "soothing hands", not the other one.
Besides that i have used all 3 possibilities mentioned in the guide to get more mana reg (2 amps and the spell), which usually allowed me to have always enough mana, if i managed to keep that on cooldown, wich required a long cast.
 
So... there is nothing in the game that makes me stronger, except raids, which i didn't rly want to do in the first place, and spending years on contracts.
 
As i told you, i am pretty much as good equipped as possible, ofc i could get a bit more mana reg and stuff... but what for? to have it reduced by 25% in a week again? I spent the last week only getting runes and stuff, so i can FINALLY pass the small line of keeping my team alive, or not, and this patch has thrown me MILES AWAY from that... 25%... HOW do i make my character 33% stronger now? oO
 
 
Sylq... yes. When i do exactly what the guide says, and it's not enogh... YES, then i DO KNOW BETTER, because if the guy says, that you can still heal with the same build, even though YOUR MAIN SPELL IS NERFED BY -> TWENTY FIVE PERCENT <- ... then that guy is simply insane and wrong XD
Because even before that, you could only barely heal enough, and had to mash the button so fast and pray that the tank doesnt move out of the heal right now...
I am not saying that that's always what happens, but EVERY dungeon has at least one enemy, that is just a "heal output test", i barely managed to pass that test in the past, and now i have NO chance of ever passing it again, because, once again, even lv 120 equip, which i will never see, would not boost me enough to make up for this INSANE nerf...
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Hilarious, i hope that ALL of you are trolling, and not as... deluisonal as you make yourself look.
 
Everyone who seriously thinks that he provided ANY help at all, should read his initial post again, and think about it.
 
 
- "Duuuuh! come ingame on realm Superbutt 4, then i can tell you what spells are good!" Is ALSO not help, it is plain stupid, why can you write things to me on your server, that you can't write RIGHT HERE???
 
 
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This thread has so much win in it. Pure comedy. There are so many helpful people in the community. And we even have the OP correct Ufa on his "helpful" insight of "STOoDing" in the red.
 
Download GAME not download educational software. ROFL.	
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No, please: continue trying to help this person. 
 
I'm sure someone will break through.
 	
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Again, the guide doesnt answer ANYTHING. The guide is a guide, i follow it, and there is no possible way to heal a regular random group.
Sorry to tell you this, but yes, if 99 people say something wrong, it is STILL wrong.
The guide does NOT address my problems, the guide IS my problem, THAT is my build, and i have no possible way of healing my team. Either they survive with salve and sustain, or they die just as quickly when i focus them so... why bother to focus?
 
I know i should not feed the 99 trolls.. but what else should i do while i wait for the deserter debuff to run out?
I tried finding better builds or heal spells for like 8 hours, i am done with that, nobody could provide any help, and now i just leave my team if they cant stay alive with 2 slow heals...
Just now for example, i did a skullcano run with some imba tank that had NO problem staying alive with the 2 slow heals, while i had to try and throw some quick heals at the dds, the entire time...
Those are the only enjoyable runs, when there is a guy that is so strong, that when you die after a minute, he just solos the boss... and for those runs, i gladly leave 100 people behind and wait 6 hours in the queue.
 
 
Edit: Try not to admit that you are stupid in your signature, when you are trolling in a forum.
			
				
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Maybe you should try getting a life and stop posting in a thread, where you are "helpful"?
 
 
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2.747 Sup
39.487 Life
9000 Shield
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Again, the guide doesnt answer ANYTHING. The guide is a guide, i follow it, and there is no possible way to heal a regular random group.
Sorry to tell you this, but yes, if 99 people say something wrong, it is STILL wrong.
 
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Edit: Try not to admit that you are stupid in your signature, when you are trolling in a forum.
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If anyone knows how to not completely suck with a healslinger now, plz tell me. But please no runic healing, i tried that often enough, last time yesterday, and in my damage build, i could not even use that spell to restore health inbetween fights, because it is THAT pathetic. There is just no chance to heal even a lv 120 tank with that garbage. And yes, i do keep salve and the circle heal on cd... just like void pact...
 
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Edit: Try not to admit that you are stupid in your signature, when you are trolling in a forum.
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Maybe you should try getting a life and stop posting in a thread, where you are "helpful"?
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			The point where you said enough, was many many hours ago, and yet you keep troll posting, because you are the leader of a big company, have millions of dollars, and surely no time to troll.	
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me? nah... i'm unemployed. and i repeat: "i can't heal an ilv 120 tank with my THREE healing spells in my damage gear! wildstar is broken!"
 
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			Who are you quoting now? Your imaginary friends that tell you that you are helpful?	
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Who are you quoting now? Your imaginary friends that tell you that you are helpful?
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I know I can be kind of an ass at times... but this really brings that out in me... I will say... lately I have been making a better effort to not explode on someone here on the forums... Now... I dunno.
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i'm not trying to help anymore, bro... i'm thinking that you are trolling
 
"game sucks!""whats wrong?""game sucks?""can we help you?""i'm pro! but game sucks!""is there something wrong with your build?""game sucks! also you dont want help me!""show me your build... maybe we can tweak it together?""GAME SUXXXX!!!!!one!eleven! also you troll when saying that you wanna help"
			
				
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Thats not what you quoted, you might want to learn to read.
I am talking about healing the damage, that I (NOT A LV 120 TANK WHO HAS 3 TIMES MY HEALTH!) take...
My natural health generation, outside of a fight, is literally higher then Runic healing without health spec, and switching to health spec doesnt increase your heals by 10000%, i'd say not even by 1000%, if you don't count the procs. Thus, if you can't even heal a mosquito bite in damage build, you won't be able to heal 100 mosquito bites in heal spec...
If you actually have problems understanding that, and think that i actually heal in dmg spec, you should really really really stop trying to help people...
(Healing myself with VB between fights worked perfectly fine, even though THAT is a group heal spell, ofc)
 
@ Learning
Again, that's not what i am here for. I can understand that you need to understand certain game mechanics and stuff like that, and i THINK i understand most of them,
but i flat out refuse to take like... a "multiple days, 12 hour a day seminar", just to be able to do the VERY FIRST MAX LEVEL DUNGEONS... you know... the ONE piece of content that should be enjoyable by casuals?
the curve was almost "good" before this... now the "learning / skill curve" is just... insane... As i said, i have done every boss in every dungeon, many many times, i have nothing that i can gain from dungeons, and yet, after the patch, i am weaker, then at the point, where i was "underleveled" for the dungeon... This is just pathetic. I worked so long to get the ilvl 80+ and finally be able to decently heal, and now... i can't heal any regular group, no matter how hard i try... i BEAT the freaking dungeons, i DESERVE to be as strong as i was yesterday, this is complete bs! The whole 40 days that i spent on this character, just GONE, because some dev thought it would be funny to take the ONE quick heal away that we had, that didnt actually suck...
			
				
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Again quoting made up things?
You need help.
 
Edit: I posted the stats that i was asked for 1 or 2 pages ago, you spam so fast that you dont even see them.
And my BUILD is in YOUR glorious guide, stop being a troll, look at your dumb guide, and realize that you had the answer infront of you the entire time.
			
				
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Again quoting made up things?
You need help.
 
Edit: I posted the stats that i was asked for 1 or 2 pages ago, you spam so fast that you dont even see them.
And my BUILD is in YOUR glorious guide, stop being a troll, look at your dumb guide, and realize that you had the answer infront of you the entire time.
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Lol this thread. Not sure if I should even try but....
 
How much Multi-Hit do you have? Gunna be good to get this up as high as possible while still having enough focus pool/recovery rate. Doesn't sound like focus is an issue for you but at your gear level it probably should be. Use your skills more maybe? 
 
Also as people have said try throwing some other skills in if you're having problem with only 3. Drop Voidspring on your tank, use Runes of Protection on as many people as possible before major dmg goes out. 
 
Also if your heals are constantly missing your latency might be an issue. Try downloading WTFAST and see if it helps (helped me immensely)
 
And get some addons. Optiplates can scale nameplates based on HP which helps me know who needs healing and when instead of just watching the party frames or hoping who I'm healing actually needs the heals. 
 
VB definitely needed the nerf as it was the strongest heal in the game. Still gunna be a worthwhile skill to bring though so learning to adapt will be your biggest help. :)	
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Thats not what you quoted, you might want to learn to read.
I am talking about healing the damage, that I (NOT A LV 120 TANK WHO HAS 3 TIMES MY HEALTH!) take...
My natural health generation, outside of a fight, is literally higher then Runic healing without health spec, and switching to health spec doesnt increase your heals by 10000%, i'd say not even by 1000%, if you don't count the procs. Thus, if you can't even heal a mosquito bite in damage build, you won't be able to heal 100 mosquito bites in heal spec...
If you actually have problems understanding that, and think that i actually heal in dmg spec, you should really really really stop trying to help people...
(Healing myself with VB between fights worked perfectly fine, even though THAT is a group heal spell, ofc)
 
@ Learning
Again, that's not what i am here for. I can understand that you need to understand certain game mechanics and stuff like that, and i THINK i understand most of them,
but i flat out refuse to take like... a "multiple days, 12 hour a day seminar", just to be able to do the VERY FIRST MAX LEVEL DUNGEONS... you know... the ONE piece of content that should be enjoyable by casuals?
the curve was almost "good" before this... now the "learning / skill curve" is just... insane... As i said, i have done every boss in every dungeon, many many times, i have nothing that i can gain from dungeons, and yet, after the patch, i am weaker, then at the point, where i was "underleveled" for the dungeon... This is just pathetic. I worked so long to get the ilvl 80+ and finally be able to decently heal, and now... i can't heal any regular group, no matter how hard i try... i BEAT the freaking dungeons, i DESERVE to be as strong as i was yesterday, this is complete bs! The whole 40 days that i spent on this character, just GONE, because some dev thought it would be funny to take the ONE quick heal away that we had, that didnt actually suck...
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"A five year old that worked over FOURTY DAYS for his toy, and then had it taken away"
Yes, you think that a kid that worked on something for 40 days, and then has it taken away for no reason, has no right to complain?
If yes, there is seriously something wrong with you.
 
Did i feel like the ability carried me? No, i felt like the ability finally allowed me to do some DECENT healing, and not get insulted because using all my skills, with seemingly perfect rotation, is NOT good enough, since most spells are just completels useless...
That is just the thing about those games, you always get 20 heals or something like that, but in the end, they are all the same, just not equally good. Why would you use the spells that are worse? Do people really want me to replace the good heals, with bad heals, and then see how i do? I can tell you how i do, the spells are WORSE, AND you have to AIM them, which means that i will heal WAY less...
 
But hey, i just beat skullcano. Group was at the last boss when i entered, i died at the VERY FIRST laser that spawned, didnt use a SINGLE heal before i died, and the group killed the boss...
Hooray for good game design... so laughable... :P
 
@Voltron, i tried even mixing the t3 heal in, but even that thing is just... you know... a TINY TINY bonus, you can trigger it SO rarely, and it BARELY heals more then other spells... it's not worth removing 1 of my 4 support skills for that... Leave alone that i need 6 amps to even activate that stupid skill...
And thats the big prob, EVERYTHING i can change, makes a TINY difference, and with todays patch, i need a way to make up for 25% lost healing, which means i need a heal boost of 33%... this is IMPOSSIBLE... a few percent i could get better maybe, but come on... 33% stronger? does 120 equip even make me 33% stronger? If yes... can i have some? If not... SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME A WAY TO PLAY AT LEAST DUNGEONS!
			
				
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and again... it's an mmo... things change. adapt to it
 
and don't troll	
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, AND you have to AIM them, which means that i will heal WAY less...
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You're not...trying to jump over the big lazers are you? I mean, it's possible, but really not suggested. If you're having trouble seeing the lava pools' red telegraphs, change your telegraph colors. Stay near the inside of the area, nearer to the lava pit. It's easier to avoid the lazers and lava that way. When you get the system message of the thingy overloading, turn and face the wall real quick. If you don't or you're not quick enough, you can still either CC Break out of or Cleanse the blind. Make sure to jump over the smaller lasers, they don't hurt much on their own but they do apply a DoT that slows and hurts a lot - but that can be dispelled.
 
Between using KuronaFrames, Perspective, and Optiplates, I can see and keep track of all of my party/raid members easily. Most other healers I know of various classes use these addons, too (or ForgeUI, if they prefer that over KFrames). Their nameplates are set to get larger when they're below a certain %, turn gold if I have threat, or turn purple if they need a cleanse. Perspective will even draw lines to them, if you really need that to be done. None of this heals for you, it just helps you see things and keep up situational awareness.
 
Trust me, everyone sucks at Mordechai's laser fight at first. It gets better with patience, practice, and especially if you have friends or a decent guild group to run with.
 
Many fights in this game require you to sacrifice some skills for others, based on what's called for. I don't know what else to tell you at this point that hasn't already been said.	
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"A five year old that worked over FOURTY DAYS for his toy, and then had it taken away"
Yes, you think that a kid that worked on something for 40 days, and then has it taken away for no reason, has no right to complain?
If yes, there is seriously something wrong with you.
 
Did i feel like the ability carried me? No, i felt like the ability finally allowed me to do some DECENT healing, and not get insulted because using all my skills, with seemingly perfect rotation, is NOT good enough, since most spells are just completels useless...
That is just the thing about those games, you always get 20 heals or something like that, but in the end, they are all the same, just not equally good. Why would you use the spells that are worse? Do people really want me to replace the good heals, with bad heals, and then see how i do? I can tell you how i do, the spells are WORSE, AND you have to AIM them, which means that i will heal WAY less...
 
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			I dont think the color matters much, i am just looking at so much stuff, when the lasers start, i often don't even see them and just die. Would be kinda helpful if you could make the telegraphs more obvious, but they are always so... transparent, that i just completely miss them, because when you look at the upper left corner of my monitor... you don't see "slight" color changes at the bottom of the screen...	
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I dont think the color matters much, i am just looking at so much stuff, when the lasers start, i often don't even see them and just die. Would be kinda helpful if you could make the telegraphs more obvious, but they are always so... transparent, that i just completely miss them, because when you look at the upper left corner of my monitor... you don't see "slight" color changes at the bottom of the screen...
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if this is a problem i might find a addon though... there is one out there that makes telegraphs flash in 4 different colours
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			yeah... red transparent telegraph on red ground is kinda... meh	
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I dont think the color matters much, i am just looking at so much stuff, when the lasers start, i often don't even see them and just die. Would be kinda helpful if you could make the telegraphs more obvious, but they are always so... transparent, that i just completely miss them, because when you look at the upper left corner of my monitor... you don't see "slight" color changes at the bottom of the screen...
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Disco... what?
Now THIS guy speaks my language... I have checked the... "top addons" on "fire based site name that i forgot", but all the top addons, seemed to be kinda... useless.
Should actually give them another look, with the new problems...
 
Again, thats great help, like that addon that lets me see the tank and hp bars easier, thanks a lot for that.
But then again, that doesn't help much with my main problem, i die too much, yes, but my main problem is rather, that i am just as useless when i am alive, even though i have tons of mmo experience, jump and run experience AND have a "guide that apparently CAN'T be wrong in ANY way". I know how to look at my tank and use the skills that the guide tells me to use. The guide says "everything is fine!", my screen says "everyone is dead!" and welp... disband...
 
@Rast
Don't worry, you are not in ANY danger of me wondering about you suddenly being helpful.
I still think you are just completely useless for how long? 12 hours now?
You really have NOTHING else to do... :P
			
				
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			Most of the time I use white as enemy telegraph color	
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oh and by the way... if you wonder why i post something helpfull now: see it as a kind of educative measure...i WILL troll you again and again and again and again UNTIL you finally decide to leave your mountain top of anger and communicate with us at a normal level...
 
simply raging that things doesnt work like you want them to work is NOT the way to go.
 
just tell us what your problems are (and i mean NOT: "i only have three skills!! my class got nerfed to the ground!!one!eleven!" - i mean something more like "why aren't i'm able to do this? is there a way out of it?)
 
trust me. there are enough people who could help but until now (well at least until we found out that seeing the telegraphs is sometimes an issue) all we read was"game sucks... don't care what you're saying! nananana"
 
oh and trust me (once again): skullcano is pain in the ass to learn... but once your comfortable with it it's a really challenging and fun fight
			
				
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			You are your main problem. You admitted to this several times kow and you don't even realize it.	
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Funny, that's exactly what i think about you guys :P
My main problem is how stupidly hard the game is, for no reason.
They could EASILY make a normal and a veteran lv 50 mode, but no, either you play with low level ppl, or you have to be a perfect player with no reaction time, that makes no mistakes, ever...
How does this game have any players left if this keeps going on... i am so disappointed that everything i worked for is just gone... There is just NO way in the game, to make up for a 25% heal loss.	
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Disco... what?
Now THIS guy speaks my language... I have checked the... "top addons" on "fire based site name that i forgot", but all the top addons, seemed to be kinda... useless.
Should actually give them another look, with the new problems...
 
Again, thats great help, like that addon that lets me see the tank and hp bars easier, thanks a lot for that.
But then again, that doesn't help much with my main problem, i die too much, yes, but my main problem is rather, that i am just as useless when i am alive, even though i have tons of mmo experience, jump and run experience AND have a "guide that apparently CAN'T be wrong in ANY way". I know how to look at my tank and use the skills that the guide tells me to use. The guide says "everything is fine!", my screen says "everyone is dead!" and welp... disband...
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but my main problem is rather, that i am just as useless when i am alive...
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Funny, that's exactly what i think about you guys :P
My main problem is how stupidly hard the game is, for no reason.
They could EASILY make a normal and a veteran lv 50 mode, but no, either you play with low level ppl, or you have to be a perfect player with no reaction time, that makes no mistakes, ever...
How does this game have any players left if this keeps going on... i am so disappointed that everything i worked for is just gone... There is just NO way in the game, to make up for a 25% heal loss.
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Multi hit? No, never looked after that, i only skilled the stuff that the healer set need.
Hope i don't have to look up the name... since there pretty much is only 1 healer set for lv 80 and below...
Besides that, people only look at ilvl, so thats what i went for. I think my 78 support system or one of those things, was actually better then the lv 80 one, but who cares? its not like THAT makes a 33% difference in heals...
What i need is someone to tell me an alternative skill that i can use, that heals WAY more and faster then the new VB, or Runic Healing, because that is the ONLY way, that i can actually help my team survive.
All this "helping me stay alive" is nice and good, but my problem is that my TEAM dies, and before the patch, i was able to stop that, now, i an VERY FAR AWAY from being able to heal my team...
 
Edit: Besides that... i really don't like this stat anyways... "When you hit, there is a chance that you maybe do some more healing or something"... It is so extremely vague... i dont even know what it does...
I.e. crit clearly tells you "when you hit, you have a X % chance to do Y % more dmg", multihit basically tells you NOTHING... "You MIGHT heals SOME more..." Such detail.... Very description!
 
@Rast
Nobody cares about your crappy advice. Believe it or not, but i rather talk to actual trolls, then someone who thinks that he is helping, and then uses "i am a troll" as an excuse, because he is so incredibly unhelpful...
			
				
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Cynosure is one of the healing sets and the primary one you should rune for. 
 
There's also Resurgence, Pulse, and one other I believe, but Cynosure will be your main one. Look at it. 
 
You'll easily make up your lost 25% if you rune properly. 
			
				
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Edit: Besides that... i really don't like this stat anyways... "When you hit, there is a chance that you maybe do some more healing or something"... It is so extremely vague... i dont even know what it does...
I.e. crit clearly tells you "when you hit, you have a X % chance to do Y % more dmg", multihit basically tells you NOTHING... "You MIGHT heals SOME more..." Such detail.... Very description!
 
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@Rast
Nobody cares about your crappy advice. Believe it or not, but i rather talk to actual trolls, then someone who thinks that he is helping, and then uses "i am a troll" as an excuse, because he is so incredibly unhelpful...
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			10 pages of this?	
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This whole thread has been a riot reading through it. I gotta commend all of you that posted helpful advice / suggests / offering mentorship to this guy, I personally would have given up on him.
 
Also, am I the only one thats eagerly anticipating him asking if he needs to replace all his Assault Power gear when Healing? Cause that would just be the icing on this cupcake.	
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10 pages of this?
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"Nope, this one goes to 11"
Honestly, thanks enter name here, your comment is the most helpful comment of the day.
This actually made me laugh, as opposed to everyone elses comments, that are just massively unhelpful and delusional.
Except for the 2 guys that gave me advice, that i could have used BEFORE my class was ruined. Those at least were "somewhat" helpful...
If my class ever gets fixed, and i can stop ruining dungeon runs, then i can surely use those addons, until then... If my team can't survive with healing salve, sustain and void pact on cooldown, i don't care and leave them.
Just now had a run through Kel Voreth, tank had like... lv 65 items, no problem. we died 2 times, once because my heal sucks, otherwise i could have saved the team, and one time, because i was telling people how much healing sucks now, and the tank already ran into the boss, otherwise, NO problem... other tanks, still die on random mobs, even when i use VB additionally... Like the lv 100 tank from 1 hour ago... died to Whatshisname the corpsemaker like a kitten...
			
				
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			This whole thread has got me giggling. Thanks for the entertainment and noob rage, guys. Fantastic.	
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This whole thread has been a riot reading through it. I gotta commend all of you that posted helpful advice / suggests / offering mentorship to this guy, I personally would have given up on him.
 
Also, am I the only one thats eagerly anticipating him asking if he needs to replace all his Assault Power gear when Healing? Cause that would just be the icing on this cupcake.
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No, i say that you are trolling, because you tell the same lies that you told 2 hours ago.
You can't even quote me right, while you actually use the quote tool.
I never said such a thing, and that is why you are obviously a troll.
You really need to get a life man... you are trolling for somewhat around TWELVE HOURS now... I have never seen someone so pathetic before :P
 
Edit: Funny enough, this time you actually took my line, but this time completely out of context XD
The line is about my healing in damage mode, compared to "natural life regen" or "eating food".
 
So... without context... remember how you said that you were a troll? Yea... just leave already, get a life, get a hobby, and don't just try to be the worst possible human that you can be.
			
				
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No, i say that you are trolling, because you tell the same lies that you told 2 hours ago.
You can't even quote me right, while you actually use the quote tool.
I never said such a thing, and that is why you are obviously a troll.
You really need to get a life man... you are trolling for somewhat around TWELVE HOURS now... I have never seen someone so pathetic before :P
 
Edit: Funny enough, this time you actually took my line, but this time completely out of context XD
The line is about my healing in damage mode, compared to "natural life regen" or "eating food".
 
So... without context... remember how you said that you were a troll? Yea... just leave already, get a life, get a hobby, and don't just try to be the worst possible human that you can be.
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Save your wall of text. Not checking your posts for advice, just for laughs.
As i said, i gave up on expecting help, i am just letting the devs know how incredibly stupid this nerf is, and passing some time, while i wait for dungeons to start / deserter to run out.	
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i recomend this build for dng: http://wildstar.earlygame.net/builds/generator/spellslinger#QpvMsyMvvKvpq/175.176.177.499.204.205.206.223.224.225.959.960.961.227.231.232.220.221.222.198.265.214.254
 
"Runic Healing" cause its focus efficient and easy to use.
- Keep "Healing Salve" 100% uptime
- Use "Runes of Protection" smurt (as buffer for people with low live or to mitigate attack) / dont spam it.
- if you have long fight you can use "Gather Focus" -> "Focus Stone" to get some focus back (180+300)
 
For last slot you can take skill you like("Regenarative Pulse" / "Sustain"/"Voidspring"...)	
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Save your wall of text. Not checking your posts for advice, just for laughs.
As i said, i gave up on expecting help, i am just letting the devs know how incredibly stupid this nerf is, and passing some time, while i wait for dungeons to start / deserter to run out.
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			I am not griefing, i am using my best spells, if they are not enough... WELP... MUST be the teams fault then... because the devs that took away my main heal, are clearly NOT to blame :P	
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I am not griefing, i am using my best spells, if they are not enough... WELP... MUST be the teams fault then... because the devs that took away my main heal, are clearly NOT to blame :P
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There is no other way. Now that RH AND VB are useless, we only have 2 heals left. Thats exactly the problems. We always only had one option, and now that is gone.
I tried replacing the crap new VB, but everything else is even worse.
Tell me a way to find better heals, and ill do that. Until then i am FORCED to hope that my groups carry me...	
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There is no other way. Now that RH AND VB are useless, we only have 2 heals left. Thats exactly the problems. We always only had one option, and now that is gone.
I tried replacing the crap new VB, but everything else is even worse.
Tell me a way to find better heals, and ill do that. Until then i am FORCED to hope that my groups carry me...
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			don't try it... yu-gi-oh the king of games has spoken. spellslinger are useless. can't be him
			
				
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	MAKE THE GAME EASIER
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That's a nice try, thanks, but i already tried that... 4-7 pages ago...
Having the t3 heal in your rotation makes a TINY TINY difference, it's not worth putting amps into that, can use the ruined VB as well as that...
I basically need something that makes me 33% better, since that is what i need to boost myself, to get from the 75% heal, that i do now, back to the 100% that i need, to barely be able to heal dungeons.
And there simply IS NO BUILD that makes me 33% better. I use the build where most people agree that it's the best, and now it completely sucks, but is STILL the best...
 
Edit:
Man, i am amazed. congratulations Rastum, i have never seen a troll with so little life before. And i played league of legends...
You seriously are by far, the worst human being that i have ever witnessed. You are here, for... god.. SO EXTREMELY LONG... and all you do is say the same stupid things again and again, looking for other little troll kids that agree with you, so you don't feel so stupid about your pathetic trolling attempts, that you started, because your "help" was so bad, that you had to lie, and say that you are trolling, and not trying to help XD
 
"No!"
Any reasons besides the usual "OMG I DUN WANT CASUALZ IN MY ELIT GAME!!!1"?
			
				
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			Healslinger is weak?  Why does nobody tell me these things?	
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No, you got that wrong.
"The Weakslinger is now even weaker!"
 
It's like... you have a REALLY bad doctor, and now he lost his glasses...
Better kick him on sight, you won't get healed by THAT...	
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That's a nice try, thanks, but i already tried that... 4-7 pages ago...
Having the t3 heal in your rotation makes a TINY TINY difference, it's not worth putting amps into that, can use the ruined VB as well as that...
I basically need something that makes me 33% better, since that is what i need to boost myself, to get from the 75% heal, that i do now, back to the 100% that i need, to barely be able to heal dungeons.
And there simply IS NO BUILD that makes me 33% better. I use the build where most people agree that it's the best, and now it completely sucks, but is STILL the best...
 
Edit:
Man, i am amazed. congratulations Rastum, i have never seen a troll with so little life before. And i played league of legends...
You seriously are by far, the worst human being that i have ever witnessed. You are here, for... god.. SO EXTREMELY LONG... and all you do is say the same stupid things again and again, looking for other little troll kids that agree with you, so you don't feel so stupid about your pathetic trolling attempts, that you started, because your "help" was so bad, that you had to lie, and say that you are trolling, and not trying to help XD
 
"No!"
Any reasons besides the usual "OMG I DUN WANT CASUALZ IN MY ELIT GAME!!!1"?
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Get psychological help, you are sick.
 
Edit: Think about what you did today, you spent THIRTEEN HOURS in a forum, just saying the same stupid thing again and again... all because you made an error, and had to cover it up, by lying, that you were actually trolling, and not trying to help...
 
You need to do something about that, that is extremely unhealthy. Please visit a doctor and tell him how you are not able to "let go", even if it's some stupid discussion on the internet, with someone who you will never meet, that you already ballsed up 12 hours ago...
			
				
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			out of arguments huh?	
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It's like... you have a REALLY bad doctor, and now he lost his glasses...
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Be... cause... someone who wears glasses, can see worse without them?
 
Just wow... is that a real question? XD
 
I dont know if you want your doctor to be able to see or not, but if he requires glasses, i prefer him to wear them when he checks me... :P
 
(I have the feeling that i actually HAVE TO WRITE this.... so... People who DON'T NEED GLASSES DO NOT LOSE THEIR GLASSES! Your logic makes no sense, why would a doctor that doesnt need glasses, get worse when he loses "some" glasses? oO)
 
I honestly get the feeling that you people actually think that you are helpful... And earlier i was kinda kidding about the "delusional" thing, but no... you guys REALLY think you are helpful, you just don't understand the most simple things in the world XD
 
"Duuuuh! Why do you not want a blind person to do your heart operation???"
 
I don't know why... why don't you go first? :3
			
				
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Get psychological help, you are sick.
 
Edit: Think about what you did today, you spent THIRTEEN HOURS in a forum, just saying the same stupid thing again and again... all because you made an error, and had to cover it up, by lying, that you were actually trolling, and not trying to help...
 
You need to do something about that, that is extremely unhealthy. Please visit a doctor and tell him how you are not able to "let go", even if it's some stupid discussion on the internet, with someone who you will never meet, that you already ballsed up 12 hours ago...
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Wait this thread is still a thing?
 
Are we having fun with the troll screaming "WS 2 hard" and then flinging insults and swearing up and down that everyone is a liar and they are the ONE person telling the truth.
 
I'm surprised this hasn't been locked yet.	
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			As hilarious as this thread is how is it still open?	
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So, please tell me, what is it? Lack of skill? Yea, sure, that's why every game in the world is so stupidly easy to me, and THIS is just unplayable...
You really need to stop your trolling after.. what? like 6 hours? You have nothing to do but be unhelpful, claim that you want to help, and then call people trolls?
 
I seriously start to think that my character is just bugged, and everone else in the world, is able to jump SLIGHTLY higher then me...
 
Over a month of work and i can just throw this character away, because i can't keep up with the heal on bosses, that i NEVER died on before...
And the developers wonder why do many people run away and they lose so much money... what a stupid joke...
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As hilarious as this thread is how is it still open?
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Dear, uh....4797849658794
 
I see you've been having problems with playing the game well, and that is'a sad, and frustrating I know. Thing is there are MANY, MANY, MANY healslingers who do just fine in dungeons.
I'd hate to say this, but it sounds like you just need to practice aiming the spells that are good, but are too sour that you are not making the progress you feel you usually do in easier games.
It's not that your class is -only- for raid healing, it's just you haven't gotten the technique down to run dungeons, even if you are geared for them. Guess what that means? You need to go run adventures and practice for the more demanding content. "Nothing better to boast about" see, if you cannot run the content, you shouldn't put other's accomplishments down just cause you can't achieve them yet too. If you can't complete the content, then quite simply, the content was not made with your play style in mind.
 
'Kay~?
-Zynlli
			
				
	Edited November 12, 2015 by Zynlli	
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Here's the thing.  VB got "nerfed" today.
 
I read this forum post this morning.
 
This afternoon, around like 5pm, our spellslinger healer was complaining about it, how slingers were terrible, how their heals were too weak, etc...
 
We discussed the situation, and read up on post by CK Jester - best slinger healer out there.  He said basically, except for a few sitautions, no big deal.
 
We then three healed ice wing and maelstrom (one slinger)
 
We then switched to four heals (two slingers)
 
We then proceded to immortal earth logic in a one shot, blow up earth wing, immortal gloomclaw, then clear logic wing with relative ease - where we got challange too.
 
Ultimately, good players learn and adjust.  This change is actually quite minor and is not a big deal at all.
 
Honestly, it sounds to me that you are standing in bad and missing your heals.  This is not because your class is bad or because the dungeons are too hard, but it's because your current skill level is too low.
 
Instead of bitching on the forums, run more dungeons, work on learning the fights.  You will fail until you don't fail and you will improve.  Please don't waste the rest of our time.  Thank you,	
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			People ranked by chance of succes when helping them:The player that is good at figuring stuff out, testing things, has insight in good builds, reads a guide and instantly gets it. This one doesn't need help often, but when he does he is open to constructive critisism.The player like the above, but not open to constructive critisism. It's not a big deal, they will stubbournly figure it out anyway.Players like the two kinds above, but difference in skillfullness right down to mediocre.After that you have players that are not good at figuring things out, are often not good at playing their class but are open to critisism and are willing to work to get better.Followed by players that are not good at figuring things out, are raging quite a lot, but can be calmed down to reason with them, and when holding their hand, they get better, and learn their class. (I'm in this category, very patiently irl, but when the game doesn't go as I planned I panic: it's not working, it's not working what is going wrong?  I can become godzilla. At that point my husband calmly talks me trough it, and all is well and peacefull again.)Which brings me to the last kind, and imo the opening poster: the ones not good at figuring out, not good at playing their class, that's ok, you can't be the best at everything, as long as you are willing to learn. But also not open to critisism, convinced that they are the best, ignoring posts actually helping them. Not providing the info people ask so they can offer real help. In stead raging on.  I'm afraid you can throw all the help in the world at them. As long as they do not calmly read all the offered help, and post any new questions they have in a civilized manner, there is not much else you can do."It's everybody elses fault, 'it' doesn't work".-Just add me ingame and I'll help you. *4"This game is stupid, it doesn't work".-Post your runes, skills, rotation and I'll help you out."You are all just saying you are helping, but you are not helping."-Post your runes, skills, rotation and I'll help you out.-I can talk to you on vent, or ingame, even account chat to help you.-Add me ingame for help.-You can join our circle for help."It's the game that is broken, it doesn't work anymore".-POST YOUR RUNES, SKILLS, ROTATION AND I'LL HELP YOU OUT!"Ok here is the info you need"-Oh well, you can adjust this, you need more that..have you looked into this..."Ofc I haven't looked into this, this stat description is too vague, Why would I need this stat anyway.Followed by insults to the people actually trying to help you.I think many people ingame would be very glad to get so much help offered to them, and with such patience."	
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			That feeling of waking up after well deserved and LONG sleep, some work done so a little break to read the forums... to find out this thread is not only still one of the active ones but proceeding like 6 more pages XD	
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I think many people ingame would be very glad to get so much help offered to them, and with such patience.
 
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Yeah I officially retract my offer to OP to help by running content with them.
 
Instead, I send this message to anyone out there needing help with the healing classes:
 
Hi, if you are on EU and you need help with pvp, someone to queue with, someone who can help you work out runing and farming fragments, if you just want a new friend to talk to, please feel free to add me on wildstar. My account name is my forum name. I play dominion, but I'm currently levelling an exile (lvl 23) so I'm also looking for a levelling buddy who is awake in the early hours of the morning! <3	
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Are all those helping people in here sure this is not a troll post? Because I'm really not sure it is. :huh:
 
We had 0 problems in DS yesterday with healing, running 2 Healers (SS + Medic) on most encounters.
 
Here again, some help. Use it or don't, your choice. I think it was mentioned before, but I could not encourage myself to read all those pages:
 
I have a Slingerheal twink myself, no problems in dungeons when running with T8 Runic Healing, T4 Regen Pulse, T4 Healing Salve and Runes of Protection.
Go for Multihit, Focus Recovery, Focus Pool in this order - best stats for Slingerheal at this moment. Runeset: Cynosure > all
 
Edit: ilvl ~ 80 on the twink.
 
If you run a dungeon, and people die over and over, have a look at their positioning. Maybe they eat ALL the red? This game's dungeons are designed to NOT allow ignoring mechanics. Even in DS gear you cannot stand in all telegraphs.
 
And, as a sidenote: Healslinger in PvP - shittons of healing, never dying
 
Also, here a quote from the best healing guide atm: https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/128425-enigma-spellslinger-guides/
 
 
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Guide updated for fusion changes / skill changes
 
Addressing Concerns:
 
Does guardian angel suck now? yes
 
what do i use instead of guardian angel? virtuous circle
 
but what if i dont like multi-hit? life force
 
VB got nerfed what do i do now? nothing, C1 still > C2 and C3 #math
 
I cant heal dungeons with C1 VB cause i run out of focus how i fix? use runic healing
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No, that guide is WRONG!
 
HEALSLINGER IS WEAKSLINGER
 
(i think the stupid is contagious)	
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Hey Everyone,
 
12 pages is enough trolling.
 
Time to move on.
 
Cheers,
 
Team WildStar.	
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