108730-gms-testing-highend-pvp-crb pvptest

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			Hey folks, we've gone and created a character(CRB_PvPTest) to test high end PvP content on Pergo. We've artificially given the character a BG rating of 1800 and Prestige of 5000. We’ll be online sporadically testing, so if you see us online, don’t freak out we’re staff. Feel free to say Hi and join us for a pvp match!	
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Hey folks, we've gone and created a character(CRB_PvPTest) to test high end PvP content on Pergo. We've artificially given the character a BG rating of 1800 and Prestige of 5000.
 
We’ll be online sporadically testing, so if you see us online, don’t freak out we’re staff.
 
Feel free to say Hi and join us for a pvp match!
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Heya, could you boost me to 1800 while you're at it? :)
 
Also I could use some nice shiny new resonators, the current ones are getting a little old.	
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Hey folks, we've gone and created a character(CRB_PvPTest) to test high end PvP content on Pergo. We've artificially given the character a BG rating of 1800 and Prestige of 5000.
 
We’ll be online sporadically testing, so if you see us online, don’t freak out we’re staff.
 
Feel free to say Hi and join us for a pvp match!
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I love this initiative. Couldn't have come sooner.
 
 
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Let us know what your rating is after you're done playing. No cheating with premades. Live the life you all created for us and try to dig out if you can.
 
Once you have 1800 gear it doesn't matter what you queue for or what your rating is, your individual battles will be a success. You'll essentially be carrying everyone else on your team, further imbalancing  the game on live.
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			its a bot!	
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So not only do you allow people tank their ratings after obtaining 1800 gear, allow people to purchase a carry and be boosted to 1800 and do nothing about it, but you do it yourself. Awesome. 
 
You'd honestly get a better picture of the terrible PvP situation right now by going in as a fresh 50 at 1200. Please, let us know your rating after a few hours.	
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I love this initiative. Couldn't have come sooner.
 
 
 
 
The whole point with RBGs is playing together in group so how you relate premades to cheating is beyond me. Also with the new gear changes I think you will be disappointed when you equip your gear and realise the character just doesnt play itself and roll over everyone else like a tanks.
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It's a good idea, but I'm curious to hear what you're specifically looking to test by just starting out at such a high rating?
 
Because of where I'm at - now sitting in the 1000s after being even a ways farther south in the triple digits (not an uncommon place to be for that stretch where it was 1200-gear pugs vs 1800-gear premades) - I'd be curious for a member to start out at 1000 and experience the difficulty of that climb.
 
I'm not saying to not do the 1800 testing (it's a valuable perspective), but I'd like to see where prestige-capped 1800 testing fits into a more complete testing plan designed to understand the unique problems that apply to players through the spectrum of ratings and gear differentials.
 
Thanks!
Speed	
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			This is overdue. Glad you are doing it now though. We really are all rooting for you even if that rooting sounds like rawrrrrrrrr. However, you would learn a lot more about your pvp system by queuing for arenas and rbgs in 1200 gear. This moment would happen like oooooo those people were totally right. This is miserable.	
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			I agree. I'd like to see the results of you guys starting at 1200. 	
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This is overdue. Glad you are doing it now though. We really are all rooting for you even if that rooting sounds like rawrrrrrrrr. However, you would learn a lot more about your pvp system by queuing for arenas and rbgs in 1200 gear. This moment would happen like oooooo those people were totally right. This is miserable.
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Hey folks, we've gone and created a character(CRB_PvPTest) to test high end PvP content on Pergo. We've artificially given the character a BG rating of 1800 and Prestige of 5000.
 
We’ll be online sporadically testing, so if you see us online, don’t freak out we’re staff.
 
Feel free to say Hi and join us for a pvp match!
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			Much overdue, but I'm glad it's happening.	
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			How about you start a warrior and equip it with full Blue pvp gear and you will see what a living hell it is to try and have a pvp career in this game :( doing pvp with full 1800 gear only shows that you dont give a shit about all the people trying to gear up after you messed up the pvp gear, I spent 2 days getting the blue pvp gear and i though okey im ready for arena and rated bg but no i just get stomped by nolifers with full bis pvp gear. .....not fun close to quiting	
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			Just a quick question:  what is it you'll be testing specifically?  Top end balance?	
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			should've started with a 1200 bg gear and try to work your way up as a solo player to see the "fun" times we're having.	
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Greetings from gamescom,
 
It seems that the goal of Cougar's post was misunderstood so please allow me to add some details here.
 
This thread was basically created to let everyone know that Cheats were used on our Live environment (public servers where players are). This is part of our transparency policy when it comes to operations. If cheats are used on Live and if these can affect other's players gameplay, then we will let you guys know by stating publicly what cheats were used, on which Character/Realm and why (here high-end PvP testing).
 
I would also like to remind everyone that all Carbine employees beside a handful few (Cougar and his team, Customer Support) are to remain anonymous in-game at all time, do not have access to any cheats/in-game advantages what so ever. Accounts having access to cheat commands are heavily monitored as well and cheats are only used for work-related purposes by the above mentioned teams.	
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			I agree with what everyone else is saying to test 1200 gear but why would they need to use cheats to get that?  They've most likely already been doing that on their regular accounts hence the massive changes coming to the PVP sets and AP and SP normalizing across all classes.  Don't really need a cheat to get the rating you start off with.  lol	
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I wonder how many of you complaining about losing to 1800 geared people while wearing blues are even taking into account the runes. 90% of people I see wearing blues don't even bother to rune them and are losing out on ~4000+ combined pvp power or defense. It took me about 2 weeks of grinding prestige and 6 days of some arena to get my 1500 gear. Yes, certain 1800 geared teams will cause you to crash rating, but you should stop queuing when you see them anyway. But if you're are actually, "good enough", you will find a queue window when you can face equally geared players and step all over them to attain your rating quite quickly. Went from 1200-1500 in 2 hours with my buddy who was wearing half leveling gear/half blue pvp on his first day in arena. 
 
TL;DR - Rune your blues and don't smash your face into 1800 carries and cry.	
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Why don't drop below 1000, run in blue gear then tell us how it feels to get face rolled..
 
post in the forums of how awesome it was getting grouped up in battleground with 1800 geared players..
 	
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I love being raped in Battlegrounds.  ^_^  No seriously, it sucks.  No base pvp gear if you just start at 50 = free kill, just because you noticed, only the best weapons are 1800 rated PvP?  Where's the PVE equivelent...  Can't even get the second best claws to drop from Malgrave Vets, and the best Claws in PvE are a world drop sold for ZOINKS way to much.  Yet the PvP one is 100? assault power better then the best PvE claws out their?  WTF!  Thought, maybe since I'm an expert outfitter, I'd craft a basic set of PvP armor.  Oh snap, only Wakataki patterns drop and are sold.  The other two BG's seem to be missing their pattern drops?  Welp, I'll try to even get close to someone to hit them a few times.  SPLAT, dead....  Yay, melee suckith in PvP... QQ  Well at least without full PvP gear...  Even then, can't say stealth is much of a benefit, since you get hit by all the bullet spam and oh look, there I am...
 
So, like many before have posted, try starting at 1200 with nothing to help you, but PVE gear, and good luck...	
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I love being *cupcake*d in Battlegrounds.  ^_^  No seriously, it sucks.  No base pvp gear if you just start at 50 = free kill, just because you noticed, only the best weapons are 1800 rated PvP?  Where's the PVE equivelent...  Can't even get the second best claws to drop from Malgrave Vets, and the best Claws in PvE are a world drop sold for ZOINKS way to much.  Yet the PvP one is 100? assault power better then the best PvE claws out their?  WTF!  Thought, maybe since I'm an expert outfitter, I'd craft a basic set of PvP armor.  Oh snap, only Wakataki patterns drop and are sold.  The other two BG's seem to be missing their pattern drops?  Welp, I'll try to even get close to someone to hit them a few times.  SPLAT, dead....  Yay, melee suckith in PvP... QQ  Well at least without full PvP gear...  Even then, can't say stealth is much of a benefit, since you get hit by all the bullet spam and oh look, there I am...
 
So, like many before have posted, try starting at 1200 with nothing to help you, but PVE gear, and good luck...
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you do relize that rated 1800 arena gear is the best pvp gear there for it supose to on level with that of pve aka raid gear which it is.
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			yay kill ppl in Pvp Yay ^.^ so much fun =D	
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DUUUHHHHHHHHHHH  That was my point!  If your rated 1800, then wtf are you able to be in practice grounds, where I can't even get a base set of armor/weapons till I've been cupcaked over and over for weeks.  Woopie...
 
Just gimme some Claws for PVE with equivilent Attack Power, and I'll let the lame pvp be lame without me.  Already a ranged glory fest, try meleeing without heavy gear!
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I gained my full blue PvE gear in 1-2 days of PvPing. Even if you lose 90% of your matches, you should be gaining a steady amount of prestiege. They even lowered the cost of the blue gear, i think the entire set costs 6400 prestiege or so now. How can you be complaining it is hard to get?
 
Even if you are matched against a full team of 1800 rating players in a practise BG you will be earning your prestiege. Sure its not fun at all to get your head stomped in like that. But it happens 1 in 1000 times.
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This indeed. and the gap between them is minimal now to what it was gear in this game has never been better. Although the stat distribution on some pieces sucks! lol
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			I hope the time of day element is factored into your tests.	
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Players seem to have pretty low expectations.
 
If I was implementing a ratings system, I'd actually *USE* that information to create better matchups, and rarely would an 1800 be in the same match as a 1200 or 900....
 
There's really no point to even having a ratings system without using it to make better matchups...there are much better ways to create a PvP gear grind.   (Ratings isn't even a good way to do this, as we have seen from people being "carried").
 
You need to get rid of level 50 practice battlegrounds, get everybody rated as per their playstyle, gear, and skill.... and then use that information to increase the percentage of competitive and fun matches.
 
(Also, duh.)	
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