108382-hey-i-came-back

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hey...just wanted to say hi, i talked alot of smack but always said id be back if decisions changed
i recently heard rumours of reducing attunements from silver to bronze, which encourages pugging dungeons and hopefully promotes a less toxic enviroment
i didnt want fights easier,i dont mind wiping 100 times, i just wanted a reason to play with and meet people outside of a guild
 
Thank you! and have some monies	
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			welcome back!  Are you Shady? if so, i must tell a friend...	
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			Working as intended :D	
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			shady like a crack dealer? or shady like someone named shady ? because i am neither of those things hehe	
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Welcome back.
 
This is not a rumor, they will be changing the attunement on the dungeon and world boss stage.
For dungeons the requirement was reduced to bronze, but the option to go for silver is still there if you're wanting to accept that challenge.
World bosses are still something they're brainstorming on though.
 
I do feel like the "tension" in pugs will be a little relieved a little bit. I've noticed a bit of a change now where people are actually just going "well they're changing it anyway, you guys wanna just do fun runs?" in my circles.	
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			I brought 5 people back. :p	
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I brought 5 people back. :P
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			slim shady! =(  poor humor effort on my part i know haha	
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slim shady! =(  poor humor effort on my part i know haha
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It's my opinion that a game design decision to "retain players" is not the best one for gameplay. 
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hey...just wanted to say hi, i talked alot of smack but always said id be back if decisions changed
i recently heard rumours of reducing attunements from silver to bronze, which encourages pugging dungeons and hopefully promotes a less toxic enviroment
i didnt want fights easier,i dont mind wiping 100 times, i just wanted a reason to play with and meet people outside of a guild
 
Thank you! and have some monies
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			Look at all the people coming back Carbine, look at all the people who were about to quit that now are not. Imagine all the players that would still be here if it were this way from the beginning. better late than never developers at least.	
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 I also just came back due to the Attunement change (hadn't unsubbed yet but hadn't played in over 2 weeks).
 
Thank god. Hopefully now I can last until they put fishing in, which would seal the deal to stay  :P	
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 I also just came back due to the Attunement change (hadn't unsubbed yet but hadn't played in over 2 weeks).
 
Thank god. Hopefully now I can last until they put fishing in, which would seal the deal to stay   :P
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It's my opinion that a game design decision to "retain players" is not the best one for gameplay.
 
Take that for what you will.
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It's my opinion that a game design decision to "retain players" is not the best one for gameplay.
 
Take that for what you will.
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A server that's still switched on has better gameplay then the one that got turned off.
 
Take that for what you will.
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You guys keep making a lot of assumptions that this change was done due to players leaving... 
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You guys keep making a lot of assumptions that this change was done due to players leaving... 
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You guys keep making a lot of assumptions that this change was done due to players leaving... 
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You guys keep making a lot of assumptions that this change was done due to players leaving... 
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Whether it was or not, it looks like the effect is brininging players back. It's all good.
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hey...just wanted to say hi, i talked alot of smack but always said id be back if decisions changed
i recently heard rumours of reducing attunements from silver to bronze, which encourages pugging dungeons and hopefully promotes a less toxic enviroment
i didnt want fights easier,i dont mind wiping 100 times, i just wanted a reason to play with and meet people outside of a guild
 
Thank you! and have some monies
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There are also players leaving because of it as well. It's not all good.
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So you're happy that you can now unlock 20 man group content without actually going through the trouble of forming a group yourself? The fact that this is a desired change to attunement for you and many others shows a real lack of understanding of what attunement is meant to be. I get the impression that you would prefer there to be no attunement at all, seeing as you don't like joining or forming groups that require more effort than pushing a queue button in the dungeon finder.
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He, like many others, may have been lured by the siren song of difficult, challenging, awesome, crazy raids. I know I was.
 
At no point did I sign up for having to form, practice with, and learn 5 man encounters that I will likely never voluntarily repeat ever again. I signed up for 20 man raids, not 5 man dungeons. 
 
Besides, a major issue going on in my guild right now is this. So, we have ~36ish people attuned. Of that, about 30 of them were attuned together as individual 5 man groups. Since we're all the attuned remnants of a few different guilds brought together in the name of raiding, this means we have:
 
6 Tanks
6 Healers
24 DPS
 
Even if we had gotten exactly 20 people attuned, we would have:
 
4 tanks
4 Healers
12 DPS
 
Which would mean that 2 tanks and 1 healer would have to switch to DPS, despite spending all that time and effort learning, performing, and gearing for the "not DPS" role. 
 
This speaks to poor design.
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			My guild had roughly 2 Tanks 6 healers and 25 dps.  Its been exhausting through attunement to say the least since our other main tank has crazy hours and mainly can only do group content over the weekend.  Glad to have 10 dps warriors who complain they just "don't have the gear" to tank so refuse to.  Picked up 2 more tanks recently though so things have been much easier.  	
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			I wouldn't go so far as to say this is going to make pugs a walk in the park. Stormtalon himself is so much a pain for an unorganized group that I've seen GMs rage disband a whole guild lol. So, while it's definitely more possible to pug, it's not so much easy mode. Also, Mordechi or dark whisper anyone?	
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I wouldn't go so far as to say this is going to make pugs a walk in the park. Stormtalon himself is so much a pain for an unorganized group that I've seen GMs rage disband a whole guild lol. So, while it's definitely more possible to pug, it's not so much easy mode. Also, Mordechi or dark whisper anyone?
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I feel like a lot of people here are full of s**t haha. Oh look, i'm please by the change, so i'm back. (Haven't played for 24hour take that Wildstar).
Not saying I don't agree with the change, but saying that if this minor thing made you give up on the game and this minor change made you come back seems like you are... either someone impulsive or a crybaby.
 
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There are also players leaving because of it as well. It's not all good.
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Correct, but at least everyone won't leave as soon as Silver is out of reach.
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There are also players leaving because of it as well. It's not all good.
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