109346-are-we-gamma-testers

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			I was wondering if we all qualify as Gamma testers.  We are currently past the Alpha and Beta phases, so is this the Gamma stage of testing for the game?  I want to make sure I can put an additional bullet point on a Alpha/Beta testing application when I apply to test another game.  Thanks!	
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			You've posted one thread that could be considered feedback/bug report. I wouldn't claim I was a tester of anything with that kind of record.Don't like dealing with bugs in a new game? Come back in 6 months. There hasn't been a single MMO ever that doesn't launch with a lot of bugs. Anyone not prepared to deal with that should wait until the game is launched and stable.	
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			I honestly have encountered very few bugs over the course of the past 2 months. So... yeah. I dunno.	
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			MMOs are forever in the "testing" phase. If it makes you feel comfortable, yes we are. If that is a problem, why are you playing MMOs?	
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yes, please expand on what bugs you are seeing now?
 
and expand on your experience as a tester. have you played other games at launch or long after launch? yes, it has been several months and yes there are still bugs. but considering there are still some bugs in WoW if you play that, I guess we have all run out of greek letters to say what stage of testing we are in there after 10 years.	
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You've posted one thread that could be considered feedback/bug report. I wouldn't claim I was a tester of anything with that kind of record.
 
Don't like dealing with bugs in a new game? Come back in 6 months. There hasn't been a single MMO ever that doesn't launch with a lot of bugs. Anyone not prepared to deal with that should wait until the game is launched and stable.
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			I don't know about you, but I'm a "Nu" myself. HA!	
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Notorious bugs I've run into the past few months:
 
-When I get loot from a housing plug, my vacuum icon likes to hang out on my screen, not going away, until I reload my UI or change zones.
 
-When I draw my weapons while moving, I don't get to hear a sound.
 
-During the Space Madness shiphand mission, enemies sometimes leashed not very far from their starting locations.  That meant having to fight them closer than I thought I would have to.
 
Not bad, overall.  I know there are more important things out there.	
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I honestly have encountered very few bugs over the course of the past 2 months. So... yeah. I dunno.
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I haven't run into as many bugs (when I do, I report them in the Bug Reports forum), so much as questionable design choices by the developers that can't really be considered bugs so much as.. not learning from the past mistakes of others.
 
I still play the game though, and I enjoy it. I don't feel like a tester.. but I am helping them to improve their product with my bug reports and occasional feedback.	
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			Felt the same as OP and left, fight for a beta key and then PAY for a beta invite. If you know what im saying.	
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I don't mind bugs, if they seem to get resolved when they say they are.  But patch to patch I never know if something else is going to be broken, or if issues are actually resolved.
 
I know that the devs are probably overwhelmed, but unfortunately, as a customer, I am starting to feel that through customer service (or lack thereof).	
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			Tell me one MMO that is considered complete and all of a sudden "bug free".	
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			Does feel like it, but at least I got a rocket house thanks to preordering the game.	
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Rift was pretty rock solid on launch imo so there is indeed examples out there of MMOs launching well.
 
Also like to note, trion made updates continuously (5-30 min down times max) and did not let things 'ride' months at a time like here.
 
They like to claim they need to test stuff but honestly I don't really believe that: how could you release a patch giving pvp gadgets rune slots and not notice you can't even put PvP runes into them? Seriously.	
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Tell me one MMO that is considered complete and all of a sudden "bug free".
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No one is expecting that. No one here is expecting no bugs.
I think we are expecting that major issues like bots and simple bugs that have been fixed by addons get fixed a lot sooner than they are.
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Ha ha! There's no way that true, unless a friend installed all the bug fixing addins for you first day you started playing.
Don't get me wrong, this is the only game on my plate for the foreseeable future, but when you think about bugs and this game don't think spider or beetle, think ant or termite ;)
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Rift was pretty rock solid on launch imo so there is indeed examples out there of MMOs launching well.
 
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I believe that doing the /bug in game is the primary means of officially reporting bugs, no?
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Still the best launch ever. Worst was Vanguard. I laugh at what most of these people call a game breaking bug.
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You've posted one thread that could be considered feedback/bug report. I wouldn't claim I was a tester of anything with that kind of record.
 
Don't like dealing with bugs in a new game? Come back in 6 months. There hasn't been a single MMO ever that doesn't launch with a lot of bugs. Anyone not prepared to deal with that should wait until the game is launched and stable.
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Yeah, come back in 6 months, it will be F2P then anyway.
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...anyways have fun with WOD where everything is spoon fed to you.
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Wildstar, in my opinion is a bit more spoon fed than WoW ATM.  In WoW, I can't ding 90 and 10 (or 20) hours later be decked in better than 25 man normal SoO gear.  Can't say the same about Wildstar and 'better than 20 man GA epic' crafted blues.  Also, leveling takes about half the amount of time for a first time leveler in Wildstar compared to WoW.  Only thing that isn't fed to you is end-game content (not gear- where RNG ruins all in content that SHOULD be rewarding), where there are only four 'hard' dungeons and two raids gated behind massive time sinks (and logistical problems) for the normal player, especially those who level capped in the last month, compared to people like myself who capped closer to launch. 
 
But do not fret kind Sir, people are taking the advice of a few other people to LEAVE this game called Wildstar.
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Where are these 'better than GA epic crafted blues' ? because last I checked even the best crafted blues only made up a small percent of PRE-GA BiS
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			i am the alpha and the omega. kneel, worms!	
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You are a true fanboy.  Here is a question for you, why have the devs specifically targeted ALL Armor and Weapon crafting for a nerf?
 
PS: The Devs answered your question for you.
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You are a true fanboy.  Here is a question for you, why have the devs specifically targeted ALL Armor and Weapon crafting for a nerf?
 
PS: The Devs answered your question for you.
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You could rightfully call me a Final Fantasy Fanboy ( I literally still have a sub to XIV even though it's a sh!t game because of nostalgic feels)
 
But not for Carbine. I couldn't give 2 sh!ts about them. Their game sucks least of any out atm. It does a lot right IMO. It also has a boat load of issues. A smaller boat load than any other MMO I've played to date, but a boat load none the less.
 
 
I am also however, a crafter with 4 expert level crafts. And a blatantly false claim about crafted items is blatantly false no matter who says it, or who calls the bluff. There is not a SINGLE piece of crafted gear that even holds a candle to GA gear at the moment... That's just a fact, from this Expert Technologist / Architect / Weaponsmith / Outfitter, to you.
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Crafted items
 
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No they are giving a CS-like response to non-issues. Adventus does not surpass GA gear
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No they are giving a CS-like response to non-issues. Adventus does not surpass GA gear
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Your responses are just as hysterical as the try-hards crying about the attunement people wanting a nerf, even after the Dev's slated a MASSIVE nerf. 300pp to 100pp IS HUGE.
 
Just lol.
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No they are giving a CS-like response to a seperate issue. Read for comprehension, that pesky word ALMOST is hiding in there... did you find it?
 
A few adventus pieces are BiS pre-GA, and a VERY few (if 100% perfect craft) can have more of your primary stat than their equivalent GA items; however that comes at the complete expense of every other stat, and the end result is that Adventus even when perfectly crafted is not better than T1 raid gear (from GA), only close enough to it to warrant a fix. 
 
Now Runes are a different story; but the few pieces of adventus gear in question itself is, and I qoute " BiS until ALMOST datascape" (I.E it's a good filler until you get your T1 with perfect or better rune slots than the Adventus).
 
TLDR: No base Adventus item (ignoring runes) is better than a base T1 raid piece on the whole; however they can be comparable with preferential runes on the Adventus and a poor rune roll on the T1; but those are two separate issues.
 
 
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LOL.  You never took a debate class before, have you? If you IGNORE this MAJOR factor (runes) the rest of my argument fits
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How old are you? You edited your post after I had made that post.
 
Try harder.
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Leave it to the black knight Chro to ignore the actuall substantive portions of a post in favor of making sh!t up :D 10 points for slytherin good sir, now I believe there is a bridge with your name on it some where that needs attentding
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Nope
 
Edits look like this
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Man, are you* serious? You can edit a post without it showing.  You even further prove you're well beyond your league when you answer my statement that addressed your edited post that you claim I "ignored" to make "lulul points #slitherine".
 
*ETA: See? Dear lord..  
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I was wondering if we all qualify as Gamma testers.  We are currently past the Alpha and Beta phases, so is this the Gamma stage of testing for the game?  I want to make sure I can put an additional bullet point on a Alpha/Beta testing application when I apply to test another game.  Thanks!
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