134446-guys-calm-down-not-even-blizzard-has-perfect-launches

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Also blizzard sorted out the massive fail that was the WOD launch in 3 days.
 
Day 2 Wildstar seems to be getting worse as i perdicted not better.
 
come saturday... wow the amount of complaints rolling into the reddit and the forums will be legendary	
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You all are screaming bloody murder about this launch. But you fail to realize that not even current day blizzard can make a perfect launch. MoP and woD had some horrific launches, servers were crashing all over the place. 
Servers are very fickle things, especially when thousands of people are rushing to use them. 
 
So chill, in a few days, you won't remember any of this and you'll find something else to complain about. 	
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Still nothing close to an expansion or actual game launch.
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The amount of content released has nothing to do with it, it's the absolutely massive influx of new players.
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You all are screaming bloody murder about this launch. But you fail to realize that not even current day blizzard can make a perfect launch. MoP and woD had some horrific launches, servers were crashing all over the place. 
Servers are very fickle things, especially when thousands of people are rushing to use them. 
 
So chill, in a few days, you won't remember any of this and you'll find something else to complain about. 
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I'm glad you made a new thread for this rather than posting in one of the two dozen on the front page. Also, MoP and WoD were full blown expansions. Wildstar: Reloaded is the same game that's existed for a long time with a cash shop tacked on.
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I'm glad you made a new thread for this rather than posting in one of the two dozen on the front page. Also, MoP and WoD were full blown expansions. Wildstar: Reloaded is the same game that's existed for a long time with a cash shop tacked on.
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So chill, in a few days, you won't remember any of this and you'll find something else to complain about. 
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Anyone here remember when Sunwell opened.. Oh I do. 
 	
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I'm glad you made a new thread for this rather than posting in one of the two dozen on the front page. Also, MoP and WoD were full blown expansions. Wildstar: Reloaded is the same game that's existed for a long time with a cash shop tacked on.
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..Except they had an entire restructure of several systems as well?
 
This is more akin to an expansion than anything in terms of comparisons.
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I'm glad you made a new thread for this rather than posting in one of the two dozen on the front page. Also, MoP and WoD were full blown expansions. Wildstar: Reloaded is the same game that's existed for a long time with a cash shop tacked on.
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			I'm not terribly worried. I mean, I want to play, yes, but it's just a game. I can go off and do something else/play something else for a few hours. I would rather them have it down and fixing it than having it up with all the bugs and the mega lag we've had in the last few days.	
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			It's okay guys let the complainers vent. We got people over that know how to deal with those attention baiters.	
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			This is NOT a launch or re-launch, sheesh.	
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Yeah because changing the payment system, adding ingame commerce, and creating a three tiered account system is small potatoes. *sigh* Despite there being not a ton of new content, there's more changing about Wildstar right now than in most WoW expansions.
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You all are screaming bloody murder about this launch. But you fail to realize that not even current day blizzard can make a perfect launch. MoP and woD had some horrific launches, servers were crashing all over the place. 
Servers are very fickle things, especially when thousands of people are rushing to use them. 
 
So chill, in a few days, you won't remember any of this and you'll find something else to complain about. 
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I'm glad you made a new thread for this rather than posting in one of the two dozen on the front page. Also, MoP and WoD were full blown expansions. Wildstar: Reloaded is the same game that's existed for a long time with a cash shop tacked on.
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Difference between Blizzard and Carbine,  Carbine has one foot in the grave.
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I'm glad you made a new thread for this rather than posting in one of the two dozen on the front page. Also, MoP and WoD were full blown expansions. Wildstar: Reloaded is the same game that's existed for a long time with a cash shop tacked on.
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			The launch was 15 months ago get your nose out of their ass	
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They'll still remember it. People still remember the name reservation issue waaaay back.
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			Difference between Blizzard and Carbine,  Carbine has one foot in the grave.	
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The amount of content released has nothing to do with it, it's the absolutely massive influx of new players.
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You fail to understand why knowledgeable players are screaming.
 
Yes, current players understand bugs and things go wrong blah blah blah, they will wait.
yes, we know. But this is not about them. If that was enough, there would be no change to F2P.
 
This is about attracting new players who HAVE NO REAL DEEP INTEREST OR LOVE FOR WILDSTAR.
 
but will give it a shot since it will be free.  THE LAUNCHES TARGET GROUP.
fresh blood.  You got 1 shot at getting them on board and the game basically soiled itself during launch.
 
95% of the hundreds of thousands of new players that tried the game last night, removed it from their hard drive after several hours
of embarrassment.
 
the main reason for the hype and launch FAILED. it was never for current players or returning players.  Totally new players.
 
a proper open beta period might have been a nice piece of insurance.
 
So what now ?  only option, start over and start the hype ALL OVER AGAIN, and relaunch AGAIN. and make damn sure the servers are ready this time.
and hope the new players are forgiving.
 
with SWG they were not.	
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95% of the hundreds of thousands of new players that tried the game last night, removed it from their hard drive after several hours
of embarrassment.
 
 
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Difference between Blizzard and Carbine,  Carbine has one foot in the grave.
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Citation, please?
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			inb4 sheepish ddos announcement	
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also remember- new players are FAR more forgiving of brand new games.
launch issues are expected...
 
In their eyes - Wildstar IS NOT NEW 
It is EXPECTED TO GENERALLY WORK
 
and it was a total failure.
 
New player's mind " wow, even after a year the game is not functional...next !"
 
is that fair, prob not
 
But life is not fair.	
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			I am 64 years old and don't play many games but I even knew that it would take several days for things to level out. My regret was someone made a character with the same name I wanted at the same time I was making mine. The only reason I didn't get it was my character was stuck in limbo waiting to get into the game. *sigh* But no worries...I just add another 'n' to the end of the first name and I'm golden.	
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its not rly fair to compare them to blizzard, the difference outside failed launches or whatever u want to call this, is huge
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95% of the hundreds of thousands of new players that tried the game last night, removed it from their hard drive after several hours
of embarrassment.
 
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I imagine it more like 55% uninstalled and then the other 45% had brains and decided to push through it.  :D
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			WoW is then the standard of how things can be?  If they can't do it right certainly no one else on this planet can.  Why in the world does anyone even still play that game?	
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There are server problems going on? I am so glad the OP made this thread to point it out otherwise we would have never know.
 
Thanks!  :rolleyes:	
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20% of the f2p customers last night ate macaroni with cheese while the 24% of signature customers lustfully chewed their cheeseburgers.
34% of players used the holo wardrobe and tried the naked look on their female aurins while 52% of players thought of creating a one-eyed pirate-looking chua. 
49% drank drank coca-cola, 50% pepsi and 1% preferred the taste of beer.	
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			The thing I don't get, here in 2015, is that with such a long history in the MMO genre of horrible launches, why SOMEBODY doesn't finally get it right.  With virtualization these companies should be able to over-provision for launch and then scale back as the population settles down.  I get trying to save money and all that, but there are going to be a lot of people that saw an ad, or heard about the f2p launch from a friend, give it a try once or twice, can't get in, and will never try this game again.  Missed opportunities.  I agree with whoever said it in this thread or one of the others - the marketing folks must be furious.	
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This was a bit blunt but also accurate. Unlike Blizzard who can afford a botched launch, Carbine can't. 
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Well i can tell you the 6 guys from my guild that downloaded the game (at my request),all uninstaled  the game without even trying it.Could not get past character creation.
They are all pretty pissed at me for wasting valuable time.Other 2 also from my guild that already played Wildstar,laughed like maniacs while saying "i told you so!".
 
You can justify as much as you can all this mess,but this was the case to many of the target players they where trying to grab.
 
Its like Carbine has this fleet of Ferrari´s and it´s offering free rides,but most of the cars are out of Gas and the other ones you can only drive inside a narrow parking lot.
Most people would rather drive a Fiat in a race track or a highway.It´s not a Ferrari but at least you can have some decent fun.	
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			Blah, blah, blah, doom, gloom.  This will sort out and Wildstar will establish itself solidly.  It will attract more players over time, even assuming it lost any substantially during the relaunch.**Assuming they don't have a whole bucketload of game-breaking bugs over the next few weeks.  Patience has its limits.	
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Well i can tell you the 6 guys from my guild that downloaded the game (at my request),all uninstaled  the game without even trying it.Could not get past character creation.
They are all pretty pissed at me for wasting valuable time.Other 2 also from my guild that already played Wildstar,laughed like maniacs while saying "i told you so!".
 
You can justify as much as you can all this mess,but this was the case to many of the target players they where trying to grab.
 
Its like Carbine has this fleet of Ferrari´s and it´s offering free rides,but most of the cars are out of Gas and the other ones you can only drive inside a narrow parking lot.
Most people would rather drive a Fiat in a race track or a highway.It´s not a Ferrari but at least you can have some decent fun.
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			Hey OP, if the forums are bothering you so much, maybe you should follow your own brilliant advice: calm down and chill out. After all, not even Blizzard has perfect FORUMS.	
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Looking at WoW's sub numbers over the last 9 months, it seems they can't really afford one either.
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			These white knight posts are hilarious! I can only guess that you feel some kind of embarrassment for a game you are emotionally invested it. You really should be sympathizing with all of those having issues. These are the people who you hope are going to save your beloved game with their cash transactions. I'm a perfectly happy Rift player (and can be again) who maintains patron status as well as buying items from the cash shop. I saw Wildstar going F2P and thought it was worth checking out. It looks interesting and well done and who knows, maybe my dollars will go to Carbine instead of Trion from now on. But so far I haven't seen anything that makes me want to switch. You white knights act like Carbine is doing me some kind of favor and I should be grateful for this mess. Carbine made Wildstar F2P, not me. Carbine set the launch date of the F2P, not me. Why am I expected to "stick it out" while they get their shit together? Yeah, yeah, "every launch...", "even Blizzard...", "No MMO release is smooth..." blah blah. That's no excuse. It's on them to do it right and do it better than the others before them. At least if they want my money. 	
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			Diablo 3 launch anyone? Error 37? That was a terrible launch lol	
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I'm glad you made a new thread for this rather than posting in one of the two dozen on the front page. Also, MoP and WoD were full blown expansions. Wildstar: Reloaded is the same game that's existed for a long time with a cash shop tacked on.
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All those you mentioned were expansions that added a massive amount of content to the game.
 
There is a difference, a massive difference, between a full blown expansion and a patch.
 
To put this into a better perspective for some of you, Wildstar didn't do amazingly well in it's first year. Population dropped heavily and some servers were left practically empty. The reason I quit in the first place is because it was practically impossible to find groups outside of peak times. 
 
A lot of people that quit last year came back to see what, if anything, had changed in the year we've been gone.
 
If you are going to bring up other games and expansions i'll mention that me and the missus both play FFXIV. Heavensward was recently released and the queues and servers crashes only lasted a couple of hours and that was a full blown expansion with millions of people all trying to log in.
 
So far, after trying since free to play went live, I haven't managed to log in at all. My wife has managed to get in twice only to be met with horrendous server lag. I'm not the only one unable to get on and my wife isn't the only one having issues that render the game unplayable for them.
 
Now I hate whining as much as the next person but all you folk trying to play it down and telling people to either leave or wait aren't helping the situation at all. People are annoyed, they are irritated and they come to the forums to vent. Ranting back at them just exacerbates the situation.
 
There are problems, they need fixing and they need dealing with soon.
 
If this was a game that hadn't struggled before then it would be a non issue but it needs this launch to bring in new life.
 
I certainly don't want to see NC bring about another City of Heroes situation but it seems like a lot of people who playing these problems down would be quite happy with that.	
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			Gomly, you might have a better comparison if you compared Wildstar's F2P launch to FF14's relaunch as ARR.  Even then it doesn't compare because Wildstar is getting a huge influx of new players, which is destablizing the Megaservers.Which leads to my main point: FF14 has a large amount of servers; Wildstar has one Megaserver per geographical area.  Megaservers are designed to expand with time - this many people in such a short period of time is more than the megaserver could handle.  Could it have been preempted somewhat?  Perhaps.  But it's also understandable.	
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Blah, blah, blah, doom, gloom.  This will sort out and Wildstar will establish itself solidly.  It will attract more players over time, even assuming it lost any substantially during the relaunch.*
 
 
 
 
 
 
*Assuming they don't have a whole bucketload of game-breaking bugs over the next few weeks.  Patience has its limits.
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"not even Blizztard"...
Oh boy. That statement just shows, you are pretty new to MMO games. Blizztard belongs to the crappiest "AAA" companies in the MMO business. Every game they launched since WOW has several problems at launch.	
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