110417-transfer-from-pve-to-pvp-realms

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Hey, I'm a GM&RL of Night Watch guild. Basically we're the last oupost of russian raiding community on Ascendancy / Dominion side and maybe even in the entire game. The things went bad, 80% of our 200+ people roster already quit the game for various reasons. We got just about 20-25 active players left without any possible recruits around. As you might have guessed with current roster depth we barely can form an adequate team for 20 man raiding not even mentioning 40 ppl content. Well, at some point we've been considering a possibility of merging forces with some EU raiding guilds, but in the end the language barrier and especially time zone difference factors prevented this from happening. So, after all the one and only possibility for us to stay in the game is the server transfer, there is another dying russian guild on Hazak - ZaDrots, so we could possible join forces and save the russian rainding community, atleast for now. But.. theres one thing. Server transfer from PvE to PvP realms not allowed for some weird reason. I don't get the reasons behind this limitation at all, especially why devs keep insisting on it in the dying game <lets face it>. Maybe it's time to reconsider this outdated constraint?	
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			I don't know how it works with EU, but on the NA servers you cannot pay to transfer from PvE to PvP. Pretty sure it's the same for both regions.	
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I don't know how it works with EU, but on the NA servers you cannot pay to transfer from PvE to PvP. Pretty sure it's the same for both regions.
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Oh sure skip all the world pvp while leveling and move to a pvp server 
 
You want to merge guilds tell them to transfer to pve realm or you reroll if you dont do either then that tells a lot right there	
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			What prevents them from transfering to your server? PvP can > PvE	
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What prevents them from transfering to your server? PvP can > PvE
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What prevents them from transfering to your server? PvP can > PvE
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Oh sure skip all the world pvp while leveling and move to a pvp server 
 
You want to merge guilds tell them to transfer to pve realm or you reroll if you dont do either then that tells a lot right there
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lol outdor leveling easy, half of our guys have 1800+ arena rait, this game about raids and except raids there is nothing (dailly.. 4 dungeon and arenas? ridiculously)
 
yea transfer to hazak or cancel subscription x.x
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Ahah hundreds plat for gear with perfect rune slots, thousands elder gems for 5+ additional AMP/Ability points, gear from GA and raredrop from 5 ppl + beloved rep items.. Begin from beginning? no, thanks, is simpler wait for Warlords of Draenor
 
In Rift free transfer between realms, nobody complains ;)	
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			Thing is, though, they've said that transfers from PvE to PvP aren't going to happen. Now, they could change their minds down the line, but it likely won't be anytime soon. 	
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			Yea, they saids, but now all realms with low population.. change something ;)	
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Ahah hundreds plat for gear with perfect rune slots, thousands elder gems for 5+ additional AMP/Ability points, gear from GA and raredrop from 5 ppl + beloved rep items.. Begin from beginning? no, thanks, is simpler wait for Warlords of Draenor
 
In Rift free transfer between realms, nobody complains ;)
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In Rift free transfer was always even when game was p2p, WoW and SWTOR also without restrictions.
 
Hardcore in this game only in raids	
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Yea, they saids, but now all realms with low population.. change something ;)
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In Rift free transfer was always even when game was p2p, WoW and SWTOR also without restrictions.
 
Hardcore in this game only in raids
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Hardcore meaning changes everyday and with every person that comes and goes , there's a thread here 
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/110172-a-conversation-what-is-hardcore-really/
with so many definitions of hardcore enjoy reading it
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			Stop asking, it ain't gonna happen. Reroll or cancel no one cares.. Or you could stop being racist and join a guild with other people besides russians. tralala	
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.. Or you could stop being racist and join a guild with other people besides russians. tralala
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You dont get it, the beauty of pvp server is world pvp. As you are leveling there is a sense of danger that you dont experiance on a pve server , for a game that claims itself to be hardcore they are not going to let you skip it :)  
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World PvP in WS is a lie. There is only gank in daily location... once per week... maybe... :D
So there is no objective reasons to PvE to PvP transfer stay closed
 
 
P.S. sorry for bad english once again. :ph34r:	
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SWTOR poor management lead to its downfall, they got greedy dam you EA ><
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Carbine, show us your "The DEVs are listening"!
You made so badass game, we want to play it and progress, even want to pay you some money for transfer, why don't you help poor russians? I really dont think world PVP is such a huge problem to stop this kind of transfers, we've put so much effort into gearing that I doubt somebody will prefer reroll to cancelling sub. It sure may be only our problems and there's not so many of us, but there's a good chance for your PR to show, that you're really listening.
We all believe in you.	
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Supposedly, the industry thought has something to do with the mechanics of they way "server rule sets" work.  Not sure if there is something related to how characters are structured in the data base ( as far as the flagging system is concerned ), etc.  Seems to be something many games don't allow.
 
That reason aside ...
 
It is the prevailing thought of the "general MMORPG internet community" that "leveling up on a PvE server" and then "transferring to a PvP server" is kinda cheesy.  You didn't have to deal with all the WPvP "potential" to "earn your stripes" so to speak ( translated as deal with all the griefing ).  So ...  If a game did allow transfer from PvE to PvP what would prevent everyone from leveling on a PvE server and only transferring to a PvP server at "end game"?  Something to think about. :P	
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			Do you really think avoiding some WPVP costs 20$?	
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Hey, I'm a GM&RL of Night Watch guild. Basically we're the last oupost of russian raiding community on Ascendancy / Dominion side and maybe even in the entire game. The things went bad, 80% of our 200+ people roster already quit the game for various reasons. We got just about 20-25 active players left without any possible recruits around. As you might have guessed with current roster depth we barely can form an adequate team for 20 man raiding not even mentioning 40 ppl content. Well, at some point we've been considering a possibility of merging forces with some EU raiding guilds, but in the end the language barrier and especially time zone difference factors prevented this from happening. So, after all the one and only possibility for us to stay in the game is the server transfer, there is another dying russian guild on Hazak - ZaDrots, so we could possible join forces and save the russian rainding community, atleast for now. But.. theres one thing. Server transfer from PvE to PvP realms not allowed for some weird reason. I don't get the reasons behind this limitation at all, especially why devs keep insisting on it in the dying game <lets face it>. Maybe it's time to reconsider this outdated constraint?
 
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Russians on Hazak outnumber us, so they unlikely will transfer.
 
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time honored standard of not allowing PvE to PvP server transfers
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			Standarts? Only WS have silly transfer restrictions, all other AAA themepark MMO don't hinder relocation between realms.	
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I say let them transfer. It's more feasible for them to transfer to the PVP server than it is for the much larger guild to move to their's. The other guild has no incentive to move, as it appears the have at least two 20 man raiding teams.  This guild NEEDs to move in order to remain solvent. 
 
The guild has been on their dying server since ?launch? so it isn't like they leveled on a PVE server just to transfer to a PVP one.
 
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Telling the guild to all reroll is stupid. These players likely have a hundred + hours of gameply (if they're like me, then hundreds) There is just too much investment already.
 
Also,
 
@jvjd and @DreUd telling them quit is even more stupid. We have a game here that for whatever reasons seems to have population issues. Suggesting that 20+ people quit is beyond idiotic. You're not helping the game, Carbine, or NCsoft by being  pricks. 	
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			We've said this before; PvE -> PvP transfers will not be happening for now. While we understand that we will likely eventually allow this type of realm transfer (as did WoW years after release), we are not yet at that point. We hear those who want it, but please be cognizant of all those that are against it that have no reason to voice their support of the existing structure. 	
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Eksaksudan, I feel what you're saying. To whoever said something about "stop being racist and join with other guilds" - I really hope that was a joke/sarcasm. This is a guild in EU, and Europe has many languages, the whole point of what this guild is trying to do is join forces with another guild of the same language so there are no complications when it comes to group content. There's no racism, it makes perfect sense and is very rational thinking.
 
As for no PVE --> PVP transfers. While I understand the logic behind this originally - and it's a good idea for a game with tons of people in leveling zones - this is not really valid anymore (or imo wasn't valid even in the beginning of the game) as there are not enough people world pvp'ing while leveling, and I leveled two toons on PVP servers and I barely engaged or had/saw anyone else engage in world pvp while leveling, as everyone (or most people anyway) are in a rush to get to level cap and just don't want to "waste" time deviating - by possibly dying - from leveling process.	
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			Well....guess we have to freeze our accs for now. May be on the next year something would change.P.S. now i freely choose Diablo 3 over WildStar xD	
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We've said this before; PvE -> PvP transfers will not be happening for now. While we understand that we will likely eventually allow this type of realm transfer (as did WoW years after release), we are not yet at that point. We hear those who want it, but please be cognizant of all those that are against it that have no reason to voice their support of the existing structure. 
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Oh sure skip all the world pvp while leveling and move to a pvp server 
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We've said this before; PvE -> PvP transfers will not be happening for now. While we understand that we will likely eventually allow this type of realm transfer (as did WoW years after release), we are not yet at that point. We hear those who want it, but please be cognizant of all those that are against it that have no reason to voice their support of the existing structure. 
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We've said this before; PvE -> PvP transfers will not be happening for now. While we understand that we will likely eventually allow this type of realm transfer (as did WoW years after release), we are not yet at that point. We hear those who want it, but please be cognizant of all those that are against it that have no reason to voice their support of the existing structure. 
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Sorry but world pvp not exists in this game - its have zero profit.
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What are you talking about?  World PvP exists daily for me, especially in the daily zones or in Western Grimvault.
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I think he's talking more about (or at least I was) world pvp while leveling. I barely experienced world pvp until getting to endgame zones.
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Heh, Sacramento's going looking for trouble, I'm sure he was outright looking for red names when he leveled.  That's how it should be on a PVP server.  None of this live-and-let-live crap...
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			Well don't get me wrong, I love world PVP and I tried engaging in it myself, but except for a handful of times, everyone just ran off as soon as I opened on them...	
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We've said this before; PvE -> PvP transfers will not be happening for now. While we understand that we will likely eventually allow this type of realm transfer (as did WoW years after release), we are not yet at that point. We hear those who want it, but please be cognizant of all those that are against it that have no reason to voice their support of the existing structure. 
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Might as well take this time to state my support for the current system. Do not allow PvE > PvP transfers. Make them earn their levels like everyone else.
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1) Two 50's, 4 other alts around level 30.
2) Unwanted? Never. Have I been ganked? Sure. But I rolled a toon on a pvp server for *gasp* pvp!
3) I don't want that increase to come from PvE servers.  Some of the toons listed above are on PvE servers. Leveling without the threat of being ganked is much, much easier. I shouldn't be able to circumvent that.
 
Crazy thought, you want a character on a pvp server? GO *cupcake*ING ROLL ONE ...imo	
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			If this kind of feature/transfer isn't going to be offered then Carbine needs to take action in some other fashion that helps the players. Its very clear the game is dwindling and needs a boost. Whether its merging the current servers or creating some kind of cross-realm connection between several severs or opening up free server transfers again from all to two or three realms, something needs to happen and regardless of whats going to happen or if NOTHING is going to happen, Carbine please speak up about your plans, we need to know whats going on and how this is going to be handled?!	
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If this kind of feature/transfer isn't going to be offered then Carbine needs to take action in some other fashion that helps the players. Its very clear the game is dwindling and needs a boost. Whether its merging the current servers or creating some kind of cross-realm connection between several severs or opening up free server transfers again from all to two or three realms, something needs to happen and regardless of whats going to happen or if NOTHING is going to happen, Carbine please speak up about your plans, we need to know whats going on and how this is going to be handled?!
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I didn't ask on twitter, I asked on the forums.
 
I pay them each month, still, to continue playing the game, so yes it does entitle me to ask questions and demand answers.
 
It was a very valid question and deserves to be answered, that does not make me look like a spoiled child.	
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2) Unwanted? Never. Have I been ganked? Sure. But I rolled a toon on a pvp server for *gasp* pvp!
3) I don't want that increase to come from PvE servers.  Some of the toons listed above are on PvE servers. Leveling without the threat of being ganked is much, much easier. I shouldn't be able to circumvent that.
 
Crazy thought, you want a character on a pvp server? GO *cupcake*ING ROLL ONE ...imo
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No, your entitled tone and the frequent use of "need" in your post did. You don't gain ownership of anything when you subscribe. You want to ask questions? Of course! What are we here for otherwise?
 
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If this kind of feature/transfer isn't going to be offered then Carbine needs to take action in some other fashion that helps the players. Its very clear the game is dwindling and needs a boost. Whether its merging the current servers or creating some kind of cross-realm connection between several severs or opening up free server transfers again from all to two or three realms, something needs to happen and regardless of whats going to happen or if NOTHING is going to happen, Carbine please speak up about your plans, we need to know whats going on and how this is going to be handled?!
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Lol  may be you live in other reality but 
Leveling with gang is not a problem really.  So if u really wanna lvl character in pvp server fast its take may be 1 hour longer than on pve. So man sorry but level character with 3-5 gang on all time is not achievement. nothing be proud.
And i have 2 50 lvl on Hazak EU PVP=)
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			sorry man english is not my native language. I mean that ganking is not big problem in this game and level character in pvp server is not harder then on pve server. Thats all i want to say. And level up any character on pvp server is not archivement. And now with empty location difference is near zero.	
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No worries, figured it was along those lines. :)
 
I actively seek out, (and find), people to gank while leveling. I know I'm making leveling a little bit harder for the other faction. Is it so difficult that people can't level? Of course not. They gank me back too though (sometimes!), and jolly good fun is had by all.
 
Is it just as easy when people are ignoring the PvP ruleset in order to hit cap asap? Sure. I'd argue those people are doing it wrong though.	
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			Why all the fuss with pve to pvp? all you will do when arriving is moan you got ganked.	
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Hey, I'm a GM&RL of Night Watch guild. Basically we're the last oupost of russian raiding community on Ascendancy / Dominion side and maybe even in the entire game. The things went bad, 80% of our 200+ people roster already quit the game for various reasons. We got just about 20-25 active players left without any possible recruits around. As you might have guessed with current roster depth we barely can form an adequate team for 20 man raiding not even mentioning 40 ppl content. Well, at some point we've been considering a possibility of merging forces with some EU raiding guilds, but in the end the language barrier and especially time zone difference factors prevented this from happening. So, after all the one and only possibility for us to stay in the game is the server transfer, there is another dying russian guild on Hazak - ZaDrots, so we could possible join forces and save the russian rainding community, atleast for now. But.. theres one thing. Server transfer from PvE to PvP realms not allowed for some weird reason. I don't get the reasons behind this limitation at all, especially why devs keep insisting on it in the dying game <lets face it>. Maybe it's time to reconsider this outdated constraint?
 
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I see a bit of misunderstanding from Hazak pvp players...
 
We do not need your PVP server/world... All we want to being able to Raid (PVE), but for some reason it's impossible now on our server or our side. We need more ppl that want to raid, and we know there are yet not so hard suffering (can't gather even 18 ppl for last 2 weeks =() raiding guilds that we may join. One on our server (Ascendancy) but on Exile side, another at Hazak Dominion side... So really we don't care will it be transfer or side change or possibility to invite cross realms into group(raid). All we want to get possibility to raid, that we can't for now =(... And we are ready to pay for it (but not to start over what was gathered in 2+ months)...
For now it's like you are in a cinema but your chair is turned away so you can't see the film. And have to hope that one sunny day chair will be able to turn...
 
My 2 cents... All that Realm divide have no reason to exist, unless it's just long ago made server architecture (that may cost much to remake)... We already have "Instances" of locations even within one realm you really don't see everyone(to prevent to crowd situations on quests)... Why not gather up all comunity... And just make different instances of world (part with PVP always on, another with PVP on/off), or make you have to decide that on character creation (PVP char or PVE char) but make it possible to everyone group and play with everyone...
 
With best regards, TorikSAn
 
Game itself is awesome, ideas, mechanics, difficulty all is lovely. Only need some time to be polished and get rid of some annoying bugs...
And let it be "Through thorns to the WILDSTARS" =)	
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As I said in my post above,
 
It is weak sauce to level on a PvE server and then transfer to a PvP server for "end game".
 
You didn't endure PvP in your leveling experience and what would stop everyone from "leveling on a PvE server" and then transferring to a PvP server on end game.  Kinda defeats the point of the rule set.  Might as well get rid of ALL PvP servers if "PvP players" are only going to PvP at end game.  Heck you can do that now ... just level on a PvE server and do end game PvP on that server, unless ....
 
 
You want to be a *cupcake* griefer and pwn lowbies ( you have issues if you do ). :P	
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