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sorry but after losing 1 week of play time due to queues, login errors, char creations an most horrible of all the Lag and every 4 hour restarts and details, even with new realms after login, cant enter any realm or do anything, i can't find why my signature sub is worth anything, still have around 1 month of sub though. 
 
as the game is F2P and there is no paywall to play, it's easy to evaluate when ALL those issues will be solved and then maybe re-sub until then i bid you farewell nexus. 
 
am i entitled for canceling my sub? 
 
 
 	
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			It's your sub, you can do what ever you want with it. I'm too lazy to cancel subs that I'm just going to reactivate later.	
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Do what you feel is best. 
 
That's all any of us can do. 	
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			a week has 3 days now? interesting.	
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I will be resubbing even though the benefits of subscription aren't that substantial compared to what you get as a F2P player, but I want to support this great company and game. 
 
To be honest everyone should calm the "F" down with their rage. It's understandable you feel frustrated that you cannot get into the game that you so badly want to play, but be honest! This is a normal game launch for an MMO. At least for any successful MMO this is completely normal. I'm not saying it should stay that way, but stop lashing out at Carbine as if they are the scum of the earth. 
 
On reddit I read some of Carbine developers have been working 52 hrs in the last 65 hrs!!! Are you kidding me?! I would never do something like that to myself and this guys break their backs unceasingly for you, and you cannot have some patience and instead come to the forums, tell us how you are making a statement about unsubscribing and that you are done with the game. COME ON!!! Be honest! You want to play this game and as soon as servers are more stable you will be more than glad to play. So either stop whining and be more patient or just quit and GTFO.
 
Just FYI I'm a returning player. Been here in beta and at release but stopped due to lack of people on my PVP server. I am more than happy to see this influx of players, and I try to play a little bit each day, but as soon as it gets too laggy, I just play something else and wait for the servers to be more stable.	
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keeping my running.
If I had to cancel my sub for every hiccup, I'd be more busy pressing the renew and cancel buttons then playing	
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Im just enduring this sh1t as long as it goes.....fun is another thing :/ BUTgame looks cool, played 1 hour in the morning before work with no lag and it was great!
 
maybe gonna sub after all the mess is gone....we'll see how it will go on.
 
 
(and how do i add a pic to my profile or is that only for subs ? tried uploading some pic file, diff extensions, diff sizes all above 200px x 200px. none worked.)
(found my answer)
			
				
	Edited October 2, 2015 by FuGu_Stone	
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a week has 3 days now? interesting.
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The game didn't start this week you know, subscribers have been playing a long long time.
 
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sorry but after losing 1 week of play time due to queues, login errors, char creations an most horrible of all the Lag and every 4 hour restarts and details, even with new realms after login, cant enter any realm or do anything, i can't find why my signature sub is worth anything, still have around 1 month of sub though. 
 
as the game is F2P and there is no paywall to play, it's easy to evaluate when ALL those issues will be solved and then maybe re-sub until then i bid you farewell nexus. 
 
am i entitled for canceling my sub? 
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I will assume that if you cancel your sub you wont be entitled to any compensation they roll out after all this is cleaned up. There's no talk of anything at the moment, but they're pretty busy! I have a feeling they'll toss subbers something for their time and inconvience. If you're frustrated and it will make you feel better, then that's you're right to exercise.
 
I personally think it's far from the doom and gloom people are up in arms over, and only getting better.	
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			Zero point in cancelling (not that I would short of catastrophic life emergency), I'm on my 4 free months right now.	
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(and how do i add a pic to my profile or is that only for subs ? tried uploading some pic file, diff extensions, diff sizes all above 200px x 200px. none worked.)
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While I agree with the person above, on that am sure the Carbine guys are working their ASS off! I do sympathize. I really do! I would probably be super stressed out if I would be in their spot
 
....but the fact is that a lot of ppl, like myself, returned these days. And subbed  to get the benefits. 
I had twi days  off to play some before my hell weekend starts where I also have to pretty much live at work.
And I havent been able to get into the game. I have tried on and off for the last 12 hours just today
Its kinda not acceptable for a service you payed for.
Again. This has nothing to do with the guys and girls at Carbine. Am sure they are doing their best.
 
But couldent they have seen this coming? Every game that goes F2P always get these INSANE spikes of ppl wanting to play their game
AM really really really disappointed with this. I can ofc wait. But I like to play when I payed for something
 
Cheers guys!
HAve a good weekend 
			
				
	Edited October 2, 2015 by Krille83	
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			Keeping mine going. I at least feel like I should help feed the devs during this time of most dire need. However if they don't un*cupcake* this issue by next month, they are definitely off my Christmas list. 	
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Still have my sub. Yesterday I also bought the mini-pet that's in the store.
 
Patience tends to be handy in life.	
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u fell into the trap !! the game when it first released it had a horrible launch problems ... it failed lets be honest.. when they announce it for free i was gonna buy the game cuz it was on discount and sub  to get the benifit when it goes free... but givin the developers reputation i delayed it cuz i know something bad gonna happen even though i wish not.. but now im glad i didnt sub or pay for this game ... 
 
they took them 1 year to sort this shit out and they got a second chance with the launch  yet they failed.. what does that tells you ?
 
 
p.s to all fanboys who will say random fanboy shits... suck my iphone !
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Im just enduring this sh1t as long as it goes.....fun is another thing :/ BUT
game looks cool, played 1 hour in the morning before work with no lag and it was great!
 
maybe gonna sub after all the mess is gone....we'll see how it will go on.
 
 
(and how do i add a pic to my profile or is that only for subs ? tried uploading some pic file, diff extensions, diff sizes all above 200px x 200px. none worked.)
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Sad to see you go, don't let the door hit you on the way out.... :lol: .
 
I'm going to continue to enjoy Wildstar for the awesome game that it is.  Having played mmo's since Y2K i've grown used to
slight misshaps like this, unlike some of you crybabies that are used to get spoonfed .
 
Get a life, get other games to play... when Wildstar servers gets a downtime, do something else - take a shower or something.
 
It hasn't even been 1 week and you're crying because the server has had a few hickups.... Go play mariobros on Nintendo you spoiled brat.	
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u fell into the trap !! the game when it first released it had a horrible launch problems ... it failed lets be honest.. when they announce it for free i was gonna buy the game cuz it was on discount and sub  to get the benifit when it goes free... but givin the developers reputation i delayed it cuz i know something bad gonna happen even though i wish not.. but now im glad i didnt sub or pay for this game ... 
 
they took them 1 year to sort this shit out and they got a second chance with the launch  yet they failed.. what does that tells you ?
 
 
p.s to all fanboys who will say random fanboy shits... suck my iphone !	
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			Not canceling in the slightest...I havent ran into any ques..The only in game issues I have had is some lag and dc. Me and my bud are having a blast even with those problems.	
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I'd imagine cancellation would = voiding any free loots they will surely provide... Im kinda excited for them to take longer... the longer they take to fix issues the greater the compensation right?
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			I'd imagine cancellation would = voiding any free loots they will surely provide... Im kinda excited for them to take longer... the longer they take to fix issues the greater the compensation right?	
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sorry but after losing 1 week of play time due to queues, login errors, char creations an most horrible of all the Lag and every 4 hour restarts and details, even with new realms after login, cant enter any realm or do anything, i can't find why my signature sub is worth anything, still have around 1 month of sub though. 
 
as the game is F2P and there is no paywall to play, it's easy to evaluate when ALL those issues will be solved and then maybe re-sub until then i bid you farewell nexus. 
 
am i entitled for canceling my sub? 
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git gud and use CREDD?
 
 
Also inb4 same people cancelling subs don't get some cool mount in 1 year for being subbed from F2P to 1 year and go and start an 80 page thread kinda like what already happened recently......
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git gud and use CREDD?
 
 
Also inb4 same people cancelling subs don't get some cool mount in 1 year for being subbed from F2P to 1 year and go and start an 80 page thread kinda like what already happened recently......	
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			I'm subbed for the next year, for good or ill.  The game's worth the launch hiccups to stick through to the bitter end	
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Between Neverwinter and SWTOR, I can wait for everything to get hammered out again.  I don't mind waiting for a bit to get some more boom boxes.
 
O/T - I'm just salty that all of my characters are naked because I busted my tail cranking out premier PvP gear.
			
				
	Edited October 3, 2015 by TheToastman	
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You spelled 'heavy soffocating cough' wrong. XD
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who said that im raging or playing  fanboy ? even if  that  doest prove anything ..
 
u fanboy bro?	
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sorry but after losing 1 week of play time due to queues, login errors, char creations an most horrible of all the Lag and every 4 hour restarts and details, even with new realms after login, cant enter any realm or do anything, i can't find why my signature sub is worth anything, still have around 1 month of sub though. 
 
as the game is F2P and there is no paywall to play, it's easy to evaluate when ALL those issues will be solved and then maybe re-sub until then i bid you farewell nexus. 
 
am i entitled for canceling my sub? 
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			Seriously people just wait it out until they fix things out.....or pick another game and play. No need to have bazillion posts about this....	
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Ohh i cant play for a week because servers cant handle the load *whine some more* my reaction to your post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48H34ukFe8g .
 
BYE FELICIA!
			
				
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			peace	
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			OP I subbed simply to cancel out your cancel. For no other reason just to make what you did not matter. A snub sub :D	
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			It's great today, sorry to see you go. 	
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			I haven't canceled yet but I want some kind of compensation. A few extra days would be enough since playing is a pain most of the time because of the lag and long queues.	
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			I think it is a good way to express displeasure. I zoned to house now stuck back in the " hotfixed " login loop that I spent 6 hours in last night. May cancel today too if this login loop lasts too long.	
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My sub renews on the 29th of the month. I'll give them exactly that long to make things right with the servers. They've already gotten that money, and I don't mind paying when things work right.
 
I am not that forgiving, though. End of the month, if we're still dealing with this crap, I am gone. This is supposed to be my "fun time" ... and after ten minutes on Entity-1, "fun" never figured into it.	
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			^ it would be genuinely disappointing if they can't fix things in a week, let alone a month...	
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sorry but after losing 1 week of play time due to queues, login errors, char creations an most horrible of all the Lag and every 4 hour restarts and details, even with new realms after login, cant enter any realm or do anything, i can't find why my signature sub is worth anything, still have around 1 month of sub though. 
 
as the game is F2P and there is no paywall to play, it's easy to evaluate when ALL those issues will be solved and then maybe re-sub until then i bid you farewell nexus. 
 
am i entitled for canceling my sub? 
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At what point did the people in charge NOT realize what would happen when this went F2P?  There are people who have the job to predict this sort of shit in an effort to AVOID it.
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			At what point did the people in charge NOT realize what would happen when this went F2P?  There are people who have the job to predict this sort of shit in an effort to AVOID it.	
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			Its like some of you just want the game to fail, yes lets hope one of the only fun mmorpgs just fails for the sake of your insecurity.	
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sorry but after losing 1 week of play time due to queues, login errors, char creations an most horrible of all the Lag and every 4 hour restarts and details, even with new realms after login, cant enter any realm or do anything, i can't find why my signature sub is worth anything, still have around 1 month of sub though. 
 
as the game is F2P and there is no paywall to play, it's easy to evaluate when ALL those issues will be solved and then maybe re-sub until then i bid you farewell nexus. 
 
am i entitled for canceling my sub?
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It's like every MMO launch you have these people that are upset that there are launch woes. Yes, this isn't the original launch but it's a launch no less and of course there's going to be issues that didn't pop-up in the test servers because the numbers are different.
 
It's your sub, but shit, no one cares that you're leaving and creating a thread to announce it just shows that you're entitled.	
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			I just knew I should have converted my annual subscription to a month-to-month sub back in July, but I gave Carbine the benefit of the doubt and bought another year. Oh well, nothing I can do about that now. But I can tell you that should there not be fair compensation for the lost time this relaunch has caused, I certainly won't be renewing my sub when it comes due next summer.	
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I just canceled my subscription.
 
I am gonna go ahead and offer my 2 cents on the state of Wildstar so far. Both good, bad and indifferent!
 
First off, I would like to start off by saying I am aware of a vocal minority on the forums that have the attitude that if you are un happy with the state of Wildstar, then quite simply, your wrong or your opinion is less valid. I disagree with that, and although everyone has a right to there opinion, those people are not the target audience I am trying to reach with this response. Secondly I am 32 years old and have been playing MMO's since the EQ1 days. Does that mean I am knowledgeable about MMO launches? Well thats debatable I guess as is everything in life but for the sake of this respoonse I am gonna go with yes it does! Lastly Id like to point out I dont "Fanboy" over games. Its not my style. As an example I played WoW for years, but wouldnt consider myself a "Fanboy" of the game. I thought it was good. So I played it. When I was bored playing it. I stopped. Simple as that. With that said lets get started!
 
The game itself is pretty cool. The housing is great, some of the best ive seen. The classes feel well thought out and unique enough from one another. The action combat feels, more immersive then tab targeting. The game itself is good looking. Both character models and the environment are pleasing to look at, and at end game I feel like there is a lot to do. So why did I cancel my Subscription?
 
This is Wildstars second launch not its first. While many players are experiencing this game for the first time as a F2P model this is my second launch experience for the game. This area for Wildstar has been very disappointing for me and here is why:
 
First and foremost has been the queue times. Wildstar launch had horrible queues. Thats ok. Launches are funky at best and most people will tell you to expect queues. While I would argue the queue times for Wildstar's launch were worse then most MMO releases, Ill agree with that. Life happens. The second launch has been just as bad. Difference being this time I didnt expect to be waiting in them as a paying customer. Maybe you did. But to be fair, I didnt. The way it was worded left me with the impression that waiting was for the f2p ers. When I hop on now im in a 2 hour queue. Ok maybe all these people are paying too i guess. Does that make me feel better when it comes to paying to wait in line? not really. If you pay you wait, if you dont pay, you wait longer was not the impression I got from Carbine prior to F2P launch. Hey its an MMO launch this is to be expected right? Well no. Its not. This is WIldstars SECOND launch. Lets be very very clear about what a second launch means. It means you got two chances to get it right! If I were to rewind a year and a few months back to WIldstar's original release, one of the biggest community concerns was that Carbine as a company had pushed away so many people. The issues of queue times vs amount of servers up vs capacity and so forth. If this is news to you google it...its everywhere. Now we have a round two and if anything it just feels like deja vu. From a business standpoint to put so much effort into a relaunch just to have the same exact issues a year later is dissapointing. You could argue the biggest issue in Wildstar's way is Carbine. I havent experienced the game yet running stable WITH a population in it. The only time the game has ever ran smoothly for me was when its dead. Both launches with a population behind it break the game. It doesnt seem to matter how many servers there are. 2 or 50. in both examples when Wildstar has a Population, it has, severe queue times, lag, and downtime. Every ones different. But when I see the game having the exact same issues 15 months later on a SECOND launch. I cant justify subbing. I paid 60 dollars for the game at launch. and a total of four months paid time at $15 bucks a month. In my opinion I havent gotten what I paid for. Thats debateable I understand. Different strokes for different folks, but for me I havent gotten $120 dollars worth of game from carbine. Just a lot of bugs and in between that a decent single player game with a monthly fee! To be fair the lag is getting better but its still far from consistent. With 15 months of live game behind there belts and only a fraction of the servers and hardware to work with compaired to the original launch, all in all im left with a feeling of meh.
 
With that said I have not quit Wildstar. I am going to continue trying this game with its F2P option. I dont care weather its a 2 hour wait, or a 6 hour wait, If im not paying to sit in that queue, it makes everything considerably more reasonable to me. Paying money for something and not feeling like you got what you paid for feels really bad. At least with the F2P option, I feel like I can get more use out of the $120 bucks ive put into the game so far at no additional charge. And that of course feels good. Will I re Sub in the future? Its hard to say. So far Wildstar's 0/2 for launches but things change! Like i said earlier in the post, Im not the Fanboy type, but id like to think that im a reasonable person. Does Wildstar have a third chance at getting money from me in the future? Yes, but ill need to see a functional game WITH a population AT THE SAME TIME to even consider it!
 
Something to add. As of today 10/4. Queues for paying subscribers started at 11:30am PST and have been moving up from there. We are still four hours before server prime time starts and were already at 30 minute queus for people WHO PAY. The attitude seems to be. Why open additional hardware? Most those paying subscribers will eventually get sick of waiting and move on. Things will work themselves out. No need to adjust accordinley the population will do the adjusting trust us this isnt our first rodeo!..../sarcasm off....On the real though can we fix the game BEFORE the population leaves this time? This games more fun when theirs people in it! Thanks
			
				
	Edited October 4, 2015 by StoneBlade	
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			If you think of this fiasco as a "hiccup" you should probably search the floor of your house for your diaphragm, and possibly your stomach.	
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			Anyone making any judgment calls on the first two weeks after launch (or re-launch) of any mmorpg is not intelligent enough for me to read anything they write.	
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			Cancelled.  I am not paying for this and thankfully with F2P I dont have to.  I planned on it but with Tier 5 Cosmic points the F2P model isnt that bad at all.	
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Anyone making any judgment calls on the first two weeks after launch (or re-launch) of any mmorpg is not intelligent enough for me to read anything they write.
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			The longer it takes to fix, the more they lose no matter the reasons. And they have to know this. I actually feel for them at this point cause everyone needs pay rent & eat...	
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			I'm amazed so many new people subbed, yet end up surprised.	
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Hell no am i cancelling. I can log in fine. yes i had problems with loading boss, but u know what? i fkin patiently waited for them to fix it. I also choose to transfer OFF entity, cause i knew wut a lag fest that would become. (and i also only enjoy pvp, so u know i win on that too) haven't had a SINGLE queue time on warhound. never. Been playing constantly since f2p started. 
 
Have you not played wow? dude, i had to log on atleast 30 mins before raid to be sure to get trough queue times in time to raid. And that was not even a launch. that was normal for that server. 
 
So no, not gonna cancel my sub for problems that is gonna end up being 1% of my total time played. if even. 	
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