119028-im-starting-to-get-this-general-feeling

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			My general feeling is this. I'm in 2 guilds, one on PVP and one on PVE, for the time being. I pretty love playing Wildstar, bugs and all, BUT... I'm starting to get a general feeling between all the people here in the game that pretty much its "to hell with what your doing, your beneathe me, so why should I have to help you?". And this is what really annoys me, especially when you have 5+ group quests that you would like to get done with your friends, just to do it! I understand everyone wants to get attuned and ready for raids, I get that! I really do. BUT.. as a gaming community, I think we should all swallow that "pride pill" and just help out our fellow player once in a while. Its not going to hurt to sit there and help someone out who's at a lower level than you, or is at that same level but attuned yet. Adventures and dungeons, I feel, take a little longer than 5+ or 20+ quests. Wheres the comroidery? (did I spell that right?) I'm not trying to say that Joe Bob needs help on every quest, just some of the 5+ and 20+ quests would be nice. I just think we could be more involved in trying to help each other out instead of giving each other the perverbeal finger and telling them to figure it out. Just saying. 	
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			well that's sad to read actually, I've seen a bit of this type of behavior but overall my experience has been the opposite. Where do you find this behavior occuring most often if I may ask?	
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			some in PVP and a little bit in PVE.	
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			Most people/guilds are pretty nice and more than willing to help attune in guilds, mine is working on attuning extra people to datascape at 3-4+ a week currently and almost always run dungeons for people to help attune for GA if they ever need it. Honestly haven't seen this attitude since month 1 when most PUG players thought they were doing better than everyone else when they weren't.I think it's more likely to happen in PvP, it's easy to get annoyed and personally I get annoyed with people giving their little speech on "blue gear isn't good enough and gear gap is too big" when my dmg is showing me at the top by double the #2 player while I'm in blues. PvP players really disappoint me a lot lately, there's far too much "I'm only losing cause they have some 1800s" attitude even now.	
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			That's how it is in most games these days.  :unsure: 	
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			I suggest you simply ditch those people and actually look for people who want to help others and play for the social part of the game as well.	
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Thats the reason, why I dont like to play PvP.
 
Too many egoistic "ganking" freaks. But, the natur of PvP is nevertheless "against each other", not "with each other".
Why help someone to become better, it could be your next enemy ?	
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I'll just drop a useless "This is what you  get when you advertise your game as HARDCORE!" token line here.
 
With that said, I'm not in any guild and word seems to be that -most- are nice. I can see the PvP crowd being particularly nasty for no reason, but that's competition for you. It makes most people into jerks.	
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			Niche game Niche ppl	
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Thats the reason, why I dont like to play PvP.
 
Too many egoistic "ganking" freaks. But, the natur of PvP is nevertheless "against each other", not "with each other".
Why help someone to become better, it could be your next enemy ?
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Exactly BECAUSE of that. :) There is no challenge in besting someone weaker, someone who doesn't uses fully potential. You cannot PvP without "enemies", so enemy players are partners in entertainment. At least that's how I always saw it...
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I understand the OP's concerns because I have experienced them myself.  About two months after the game went live, I had gotten my second character to level 50 and only had the 5+ group quests in Grimvault to complete in order to finish up the zone.  It took weeks to find people willing to help with these quests.
 
I still haven't found anyone willing to do the Blighthaven group quests.
 
Actually, a few days after Defile went live, I struggled to find people who would help in that zone.  I got frustrated and haven't been back on the game.  It's likely going to be even harder if I do decide to try again.
 
I play on Entity.	
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I help out players a lot and so do others in my guild. Last night we got 4 geared 50s to help a fellow players level his alt by blasting through all of the 5-player quests in Grimvault. People did the same for me when I was leveling.
 
I guess it's the quality of people you play with.	
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I'll just drop a useless "This is what you  get when you advertise your game as HARDCORE!" token line here.
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That behavior sounds pretty much like any MMO, ever.
 
Also, it sounds a lot like real life.  Politics in particular.
 
And preschool classrooms.
 
Really, some people just don't want to shar their toys.	
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Well, then you are member of a minority. Most PvPs, that I had "fun" with, liked to gank other players, especially those weaker than themselves. When they met an equivalent enemy, they left off quickly. Thus they destroyed the player base, especially knew players. In the end, PvP population in games quickly decrease, when there is no mechanism to prevent unfair pvping, may be through game rules oder community-player rules.
 
Of course not all PvPs are like that, but as mentioned, a minority in my eyes. The mass behaves, like they do in real life, mankind's real nature.
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On the flip side, how do you know...
 
1) that these people weren't just helping out others a lot and kind of want to do what they want to do now.
2) have a limited amount of time to play that day and wanted to get things done they needed to do.
3) they aren't occassionally on and off from afk because they may be making lunch/dinner, doing laundry, on the phone, etc.
4) they even see the chat?  I know I miss a chat at times because I am engaged in the game and not looking at the chat window.
 
People seem to always think that if they need help with something they should all just drop what they are doing and help out.  You don't know the reasons why people aren't helping out.  I help people out at times, but I also need to get some of my things done as well.  If your major gripe is with your guilds, well same applies to the 4 things I mentioned above.  People pay their $15 a month (or worked hard for their CREDD etc) so they should be able to play how they want.
 
Don't get me wrong I feel for you and do agree with you as well, but I understand that I don't know what everyone else is doing either and if they don't want to help or anything, well nothing you can do.  It also doesn't help when servers are kind of dead either.  In WoW and even SW:ToR, I honestly have never really had any issues finding groups for group quests etc.	
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