101070-stop-calling-every-bug-fix-a-hotfix-when-it-is-not-a-hotfix-by-any-means

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Dear Carbine,
 
Please stop using the word hotfix in the wrong connotation whenever you take down servers to apply a patch to the client. I understand that hotfix has become synonymous with patch or update, but your still using hotfix whenever you take the servers down for an hour of maintenance. I mean come on clearly that is not a hotfix which by definition is is a patch or service pack that resolves a known bug or error while the servers expierence no downtime. I'm not trying to be a grammar nazi, but the use of hotfix for server downtime is not anywhere remotely close to what a hotfix is. Even Cougar said The Nexus Report last week, "a normal hotfix downtime, I have hotfix thats true hot and hotfixes that aren't hot." The whole point of a hotfix is NO DOWN TIME.
 
Much Love,
Rigen
 
 
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotfix
 
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The term "hotfix" was originally applied to software patches that were applied to "hot" systems; that is, systems which are live, currently running and in production status rather than development status. For the developer, a hotfix implies that the change may have been made quickly and outside normal development and testing processes.
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Dear Carbine,
 
Please stop using the word hotfix in the wrong conitation whenever you take down servers to apply a patch to the client. I understand that hotfix has become synonymous with patch or update, but your still using hotfix whenever you take the servers down for an hour of maintenance. I mean come on clearly that is not a hotfix which by definition is is a patch or service pack that resolves a known bug or error while the servers expierence no downtime. I'm not trying to be a grammar nazi, but the use of hotfix for server downtime is not anywhere remotely close to what a hotfix is. Even Cougar said The Nexus Report last week, "a normal hotfix downtime, I have hotfix thats true hot and hotfixes that aren't hot." The whole point of a hotfix is NO DOWN TIME.
 
Much Love,
Rigen
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			I've rarely seen hotfix specifically applied to a no downtime situation. Looking it up online, I see that that connotation tends to be an older form of the definition, which has since changed.	
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			Hotfix simply means it's a fix applied to live environment rather than in development. Don't think it has anything to do with downtime.	
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Dear Carbine,
 
Blah blah blah blah
 
Much time wasted
Rigen
 
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			Honestly, sometimes I just think they perceive the name "hotfix" as more "hardcore" than "patch", and since this is a "hardcore" game...	
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Dear Carbine,
 
Please stop using the word hotfix in the wrong connotation whenever you take down servers to apply a patch to the client. I understand that hotfix has become synonymous with patch or update, but your still using hotfix whenever you take the servers down for an hour of maintenance. I mean come on clearly that is not a hotfix which by definition is is a patch or service pack that resolves a known bug or error while the servers expierence no downtime. I'm not trying to be a grammar nazi, but the use of hotfix for server downtime is not anywhere remotely close to what a hotfix is. Even Cougar said The Nexus Report last week, "a normal hotfix downtime, I have hotfix thats true hot and hotfixes that aren't hot." The whole point of a hotfix is NO DOWN TIME.
 
Much Love,
Rigen
 
 
 
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Dear Carbine,
 
Please stop using the word hotfix in the wrong connotation whenever you take down servers to apply a patch to the client. I understand that hotfix has become synonymous with patch or update, but your still using hotfix whenever you take the servers down for an hour of maintenance. I mean come on clearly that is not a hotfix which by definition is is a patch or service pack that resolves a known bug or error while the servers expierence no downtime. I'm not trying to be a grammar nazi, but the use of hotfix for server downtime is not anywhere remotely close to what a hotfix is. Even Cougar said The Nexus Report last week, "a normal hotfix downtime, I have hotfix thats true hot and hotfixes that aren't hot." The whole point of a hotfix is NO DOWN TIME.
 
Much Love,
Rigen
 
 
 
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			wow, we are really digging at the bottom of the barrel for the complaints now.	
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wow, we are really digging at the bottom of the barrel for the complaints now.
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Also, the grass in my housing plot is the wrong shade of green!!
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The OP is correct. There really is no need to misuse software development terms. The correct ones work just fine.
 
A hot fix is on a hot system. It's kind of in the name. Our ability to define a language and use it correctly is important.
 
Next month they could be applying chicken fixes or hot mashed potato headlights.	
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The OP is correct. There really is no need to misuse software development terms. The correct ones work just fine.
 
A hot fix is on a hot system. It's kind of in the name. Our ability to define a language and use it correctly is important.
 
Next month they could be applying chicken fixes or hot mashed potato headlights.
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The OP is correct. There really is no need to misuse software development terms. The correct ones work just fine.
 
A hot fix is on a hot system. It's kind of in the name. Our ability to define a language and use it correctly is important.
 
Next month they could be applying chicken fixes or hot mashed potato headlights.
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Wait? They are fixing things? All I ever see are notes saying they fixed something just to find out in game that what they said was fixed is still broke.
 
P.S. I type this as I sit around waiting for the Grove event as I just minutes ago failed to receive credit. I got 2 Dyes, Bronze Rewards and a big middle finger for credit.	
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Wait? They are fixing things? All I ever see are notes saying they fixed something just to find out in game that what they said was fixed is still broke.
 
P.S. I type this as I sit around waiting for the Grove event as I just minutes ago failed to receive credit. I got 2 Dyes, Bronze Rewards and a big middle finger for credit.
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Have you tried... doing... the grove event?
 
You have to kill at least one mob to get credit.
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I am not an idiot. This isn't my first rodeo. Lets act like I have done this event before (like every day for the past however long).
 
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I notice you aren't in a group and didn't get any contribution points.
 
Maybe join a group for group quest?
 
I've heard getting a killing blow works, probably easier to do with more than just one person.
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Then what, sir, should they call it. You didn't have to download a patch for the fix to go live. Just because they try to coincide hotfixes with scheduled maintenance doesn't mean it's not a hotfix.
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*Enters thread*
 
*Looks one way then the other*
 
*Realises OP has nothing to do with my morning coffee and bacon sandwich*
 
OP, please stop misusing the term hotfix...
 
*Heads for work canteen*	
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Back when my partner and I used to play Everquest we were both working the same shift at Wal-Mart. We'd rush home for 'nooners' now and then only we worked third shift so instead of calling them 'nooners'  we started calling them 'hotfixes'. It was our own personal little joke. 
 
I miss those hotfixes :/	
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Then what, sir, should they call it. You didn't have to download a patch for the fix to go live. Just because they try to coincide hotfixes with scheduled maintenance doesn't mean it's not a hotfix.
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They should call it a server patch with downtime. Having to download something on the client side has absolutely nothing to do with patching a server that requires the server to be offline. You are mixing apples and oranges.
 
Working for a bank, we apply hot fixes all the time. It is a very important distinction, because a hot fix means customers are not interrupted. If your system isn't accessible, then it is not hot.
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			OP clearly knows nothing about software development.	
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No, OP is 100% correct.
 
If you're going to use THE SAME WORD, for two different things (like the people ranting on about language evolving), then it only works when the original meaning ceases to be relevant.
 
If you have the exact same context, and the exact same Type of Thing, you can't just use a word that isn't correct, and go around pretending you're being innovative. It's not innovation. It's just plain incorrect.
It also causes all sorts of literary problems, like you heard in the wildstar weekly with the fella (I can't remember who it was) who was talking about a hotfix not being a true hotfix.
That only happens because you're using the word wrong. It creates confusion, and looks to half the world like you don't even know what you're doing.
 
Use a different word. It's not hard, you can call it a Warmfix, or a Coldfix, or a Sandwich for all I care. You can say you're releasing "a sandwich" to fix the problem with X. After you explain the first couple of times that a "sandwich" means a change that doesn't go through proper QA, and gets pushed to servers quickly, but requires servers to restart, then we'll understand, and we can accept the term.
But ffs don't use the word 'Hotfix' when it IS NOT a 'Hotfix'.
 
Now we just have a dumb system where you have to go around defining if something is "a true hotfix" or just "a fake hotfix".
It's silly, and regardless how many people seem to want to abuse the word (because 'hotfix' sounds cooler and sounds like you're doing something more awesome than just a 'patch'!), it's still wrong.	
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Now, I'm not saying you can't apply something that was designed as a hotfix, whilst the server is offline anyway (for whatever other reason).
But then, by definition, it's no longer a hotfix, and it's just a normal fix. So you say you're bringing the servers down for maintenance, and applying some fixes whilst it's down. Not hard.	
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