119997-how-on-earth-is-this-game-going-to-survive

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TL;DR : Didn't see anyone in starting zones, dont want to pay sub, please make f2p
 
Most, if not all, of the people playing WildStar are already on max level and usually hang around in the Capital cities or are busy doing the dailies, raiding, dungeons and adventures.
So if you wish to get in on the action, I recommend you actually level up your character as fast as you can, there's several good ways for doing this and should not take you longer then a couple of days.
If you wish for someone to keep you company on the lower level zones, join a guild.
 
Cannot stress enough how important it is to join guilds. MMORPGs are social games. They thrive on people grouping up
Once you're in a guild, there's bound to be someone leveling an alt in your level range.
 
As for your computer not handling it, what specs?
Cannot say anything until we see the specs.	
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Hi guys, iv recently hit the boredom stage of console gaming again and come away from my xb1 as i have an mmorpg itch that desperately needs scratching, every once in a while i get like i am now where i need to find an mmo to call home for a few months until i go back to console gaming...
 
i tried this game when the beta came out and my laptop wouldnt run it ( least i thought it was my laptop) in the last week or so iv gotten a new machine which runs most games at high settings so while scouring the internet looking for that mmo fix i remembered this little puppy n after pondering for a day or 3 decided to give it another go...
 
firstly one of the major off puts and a hate of mine was the pricing system i dont agree with mmorpg games being sold at a high price and then having a fairly pricey subscription fee on top of that. Now i know im going to get flamed for that but whether you agree or not that is my personal view, some agree some dont, its especially off putting when there is no true trial option on a game.... but i found the game for around the price of a months sub with a 30 day free trial so what the hell here i am...
 
on loading the game i was amazed at how my machine seemed to struggle with it, throwing out low fps yet everything seemed to be running ok after a few google searches and tinkering about with settings i found that it wasnt just me with fps issues its widespread and theres more than a fair share of bugs within the game....
 
but in its defense its still a baby in terms of games so its to be expected...
 
anyhooooooooo i got the game running smooth enough to be playable and i do enjoy the game, its different iv gone with a spell slinger and though i feel they could of done a whole lot more with the class im enjoying it i enjoy the color schemes and layouts of the levels and the mission structure seems ok so far, it seems to borrow bits from various mmorpg games iv played and put them together quite well.... so whats the problem you ask???
 
Now i know this game is going to have its faithful followers who will defend it til death and negate anything i say and thats fair enough but, me personally i cant see what business model this game is going to have to take to survive and not only survive but make a hefty profit and keep relevent.
 
Firstly the game is like a ghost world, i spent most of yesterday playing and then last night and some of today, i have seen probably 3 people in total, even asking for help or if anyone is playing in chat... nothing, the chat is dead, i was totally surprised by this, again on a quick google search it seems there are plenty in agreement, and for that the world just seems dead and lifeless, as i ran about questing just now i felt like i was either in an unfinished game or a game that was ageing and long since forgotten....
 
but this shouldnt be the case, i logged into my GW1 account the other day and the place is still booming, other games i have toyed with dcuo , ff15, WoW, GW2 Swtor, secret world, tera , rift etc etc are absolutely teeming with life so its not like theres a lull in mmo games.
 
secondly is the amount of bugs and such, now i know every game has them even more so at launch but having to do things like disable health bars or hyperthreading on machines and running different bits is like something you would have to do on a early early pre alpha game , though i guess this will be worked on over time , the thing is now is the time because as with the first issue the game is dead already and you should be attracting customers and not putting them off....
 
which takes me to my main point.... i dont see what model this game can take to survive, as said i do actually enjoy this game and like where its going but i cant see me paying a sub for it,and obviously this is the case with plenty of other people as well, and there are thousands of posts and sites and forums claiming it should go f2p.... but again f2p is such a tricky market games like DCUO for example are so cut back in the f2p option that its barely worth doing, and unless your hardcore about the game its not good enough for a sub in most cases, the way a game like DCUO gets subs though is its a superhero game and has all the DC liscence so its going to get love no matter what.Then you have to compete with games that are truly f2p like tera, i cant really grumble about that game at all it has the graphics, a smooth combat system, tad grindy in places but most games are yet it sets a benchmark for f2p....
 
then theres the credd system which unfortunately doesnt work or so it seems, seeing as there aint many players out there, only the elite few can utilize the market enough to sell credd, and the costings for it dont really seem like its something you can keep your sub alive with realisticly, as the prices seem to be on the up, if there were more players then the system would be cheaper and more people could afford it, good idea in general, but doesnt really work. This was the option i was hoping to go for but after reading a few things and playing the game it doesnt seem realistic at all, but we shall see in about 28 days time.
 
then there is buy to play, and i think this is the best way any game can go, and personally its where i see this game going, GW and GW2 absolutely hit the nail on the head with it and business is booming, then you had the secret world which i love as a game but a subscription model for that game fell flat on its face, it went B2P and footfall trebled its constantly busy and its making money through DLC , purchases and microtransactions... thats where i see this game should be and what would work best for it.
Obviously iv purchased the game now so it wouldnt really affect me but if i had not and it was B2P i know for a fact id pay out the £20 - £30 for the game.
You then have the options of microtransactions still for gold, clothing and armor sets, mounts etc, and people will pay for it, you only have to look at the revenue and profits of games like world of tanks and warframe, even swtor.
 
if it went f2p i could see them cutting it too far back along the lines of conan and dcuo etc where for me and many others its not enough to keep playing and holds you back which takes you back to a sub model which unfortunately people dont appear to be paying.The only option with this is to drop the sub price, i know to some people money is easy to come by, others just tend to be more careful, me personally if a game offers me countless hours of fun and value then i will pay a sub, Swtor i could get 60 days of game time for around £10 - £11 so £5 a month is hardly something to turn your nose up at, warcraft i was paying around the same for but the recent price hike has put me off, i did after many years of never playing the game find a love and charm for it but the game is dated now and getting on and losing subs aswel so to me they should be dropping the sub price to attract more people not put it up to try and milk the faithful some more....
 
anyways it will be interesting to see where this goes, id love to see servers booming and the game get the love it deserves and hopefully not just fade into nothing, the servers get closed etc,theres a big gap in the market at the minute, between guild wars and WoW the loss of city of heroes and SW galaxies there is a market, and there are the more niche games like lotr and FF15 etc but i believe this game could truly thrive as a B2P game and at least compete with GW, hopefully thats what happens and the game picks up, be a shame to lose it so early on.	
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			Is a warning light starting to flash for anyone else here on General Discussion?	
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			You know what I'm starting to think actually kills a game that has a few issues still needing to be ironed out?  It's not the issues that need to be ironed out, it's the people that doom and gloom on forums and message boards about the game dying and scaring off potential players that peruse forums and message boards before they try a game out.	
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Hello,
 
I understand the game may not be for you and you're certainly not alone in your thoughts - however we do already have threads here on the general forums talking about these exact same things, so instead of creating duplicate topics I am going to request you please chime in to those threads already in progress. You can find them here: 
 
The game is so boring that I can't stay
Back after 4-6 months and game dead? 
Is this game dead? (Advice needed, not rant)
The future? Of WildStar 
 
Thank you very much for your feedback.
 
- Team WildStar	
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Most, if not all, of the people playing WildStar are already on max level and usually hang around in the Capital cities or are busy doing the dailies, raiding, dungeons and adventures.
So if you wish to get in on the action, I recommend you actually level up your character as fast as you can, there's several good ways for doing this and should not take you longer then a couple of days.
 
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