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So what's the deal guys? I'm not even level 50 (41) and since I started playing all people are doing is bitching about this game. 
This is from mostly randoms, people in different guilds, when questing, people in main towns all chat etc.
 
1.PVP matchmaking is broken and their system is skewed allowing tanked raters to take advantage
2.PVE Attunement is making everyone quit the game 
3.This game is already dead
4.RIP Wildstar
5.40 and 20 man raids are ruining the game since there's not even 20 people online.
6.Wildstar acts transparent but really they aren't doing anything to fix any of the problems.
7.1-6 All over every 20 minutes. Repeat
 
TLDR- This is all I'm hearing from fellow WS players. This is not my opinion as I'm not even 50 yet.
 
My Opinion is I love this game, I've quested 90% and thoroughly enjoyed my time doing so, I had fun pvping the little I did it, and overall its a great feel. But is there really that many problems at 50?
I can't continue to play when everyone is crying in the game. Holy cow it's annoying. 	
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You, sir and on the wrong server.
 
If you just started, get over to Evindra NOW. You will not hear any of that crap and our community is filled with happy people enjoying the game.
 
Trust me. You won't regret it.	
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I don't even look at /zone chat anymore.
 
If people in my guild start talking that way, they are usually not long for the game anyways (quitting in a couple days).  If it becomes too prevalent in /guild chat, it might be time to find a more positive and supportive guild.
 
My personal opinion:
1. I don't PvP, so would not know
2. Meh, kinda annoying, but changes are coming, I can wait
3.-5. all kinda the same thing, and Dominion Caretaker seems fine, there are always people around and still tripping over each other in daily zones
6. One of the most responsive Dev teams I have seen, lots of bug fixes (still lots unfixed and some new ones created), system adjustments, and content updates (2 months after launch and 2 content additions so far, most previous MMOs/games have not had content release for several months after launch)	
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Really Tex? I will reroll today sometime. My friend has a guild on this server but its mainly for pvp. I love PVE though and have been thinking about a reroll. 
 
I might just do that. 	
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BRKN, the game is gorgeous, awesome, witty and downright refreshing.
 
Wait til you get to 50 and your heart will be broken.
 
All joking aside, Tex has a point, the game is only as good as the people who play it. And there are lots of solid folks in Evindra.	
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Really Tex? I will reroll today sometime. My friend has a guild on this server but its mainly for pvp. I love PVE though and have been thinking about a reroll. 
 
I might just do that. 
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Dude I'm rerolling Evindra. You guys seem awesome. Are you Dominion or Exile? Also maybe I can join your guild? 
I just want to play with people who genuinely enjoy the game as I do. 	
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			Hell, just because of Tex i'm actually rolling a toon over there, so I'll see you in game BKRN, I'll assist you in any way I can	
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I hear what you're saying.  I hate it too and I'm pretty active in this game.  I don't hear this much negativity on my server (Envindra), but the consensus is all of the above.  
 
Are you on a PVP server?  Most PVPers are very vocal loud mouths who can't be satisfied.  They may have some legitimate gripes, but most take it way to seriously. If it's not a PVP server you're on, most of the people complaining about attunements or 20 and 40 man groups are weaklings who will die off the game soon. Which will allow people who enjoy the game to happily play without them.
 
On another note, saying that a game is dead is a ridiculous statement, because I'm sure they're comparing Wildstar population with WoW population. At this points in the MMO landscape even World of Warcraft is stating that it will never regain the popularity it once had when it was the ONLY good MMO that existed.  Now there are just so many options you're probably never going to have an MMO reach 11-13 million subs.
 
People need to wake up and realize that calling a game dead by comparing it to WoW is an outdated concept.   	
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Me and my guild "Blazing Saddles" are Exile-side on Evindra. We had some turn-over in the last couple of weeks, but things really started picking up again last night. We'd be honored to have you both, and anyone you know who wants to jump over.
 
One of our regulars, Scott of Awesome, jumped over and started the Dominion branch "The Skullkickers" and they are also doing really well right now. Both guilds are pretty much always happy to have new people.
 
Add my account to your friends list. I'm usually home and on-line sometime between 5 and 6PM CST.	
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			Evindra, where all the happiness goes!	
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Ya I was on a PVP server. I love playing hybrid in MMO, enjoying both PVP and PVE. But honestly I want a positive environment and I'll play on a PVE server for that. Not an issue.
 
I'm rerolling on Evindra and possibly going with a Engineer or Esper. Are you guys Dommie or Exile?  	
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I'm rerolling on Evindra and possibly going with a Engineer or Esper. Are you guys Dommie or Exile?  
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BRKN, the game is gorgeous, awesome, witty and downright refreshing.
 
Wait til you get to 50 and your heart will be broken.
 
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			Alright cool Tex. Thanks for the replies guys I appreciate it to the max! 	
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I was like you man, I played multiple characters - not hitting 50 on any of them, but 100%'ing every map, testing out the various crafting professions, etc.
 
Once I decided on a main though and took it to 50, then you just realize you are just stuck sitting around the majority of the time ... it really sucks.
 
Personally I love the game, think it's a lot fun, but I hate sitting around doing nothing.
 
Why am I sitting around you ask? Can't get a group to do all the group content! but the group content "I" need, everyone is stuck on different parts.
 
For me:
 
I got the first part done, but the 2nd part is to max out exile rep. However, there are only a couple of ways to do that.
 
- Dailies (little over 1k per day)
- Malgrave public raid event (1500ish per complete - but no one is ever around to do it)
- Vet Adventures (I read 400 a pop, I sit in match maker for hours without any popping so I dunno for sure! lol)
 
 
I think it boils down to 2 problems
 
First, I think they need to do some server merges, to fix population issues some servers have.
 
Second, I think they need to let us do our attunement quests in any order we can get them done. I can't stress this enough!. I am in a very wonderful guild, and they run attunement stuff, but they are way ahead of me. I could've gotten a few attunement vet dungeons done last night, but that is step 8 and I'm only on step 2.
 
Really this attunement thing is a giant tsunami wave that crashes right on top of you once you hit 50 and crushes the will you have to continue playing the game every day you login.
 
On a side note, I think the entire elder point system is a little bit over the top...like 44 weeks of maxing out every week just to max out on your points/amps? So almost a full year before you can think about spending points on anything else...Not a lot of people are going to be that patient.
 
I understand where Carbine is trying to come from.
 
I too come from an age of hardcore MMOs. I remember spending almost a full year of extremely hardcore playing to max out my first toon in Ashersons Call 1 (thistledown for life!), This was before they added the bonuses for guild / mentors / crazy xp tree thing they have hehe. 120+ Levels of corpse runs and much swearing in a truly epic hardcore game.
 
Then WoW came out and dumbed everything down to the point that, every game since has made it SUPER EASY to level, where maxing out a character use to take many months to a year, it now takes days to a week.
 
People got used to the "gimmie everything NOW!" mentality that game companies were pushing with their titles and spoiled everyone, so when they companies try and do something innovative, or attempt to capture some old school MMO action ... it's a severe backlash.
 
These are only my opinions on how I see the current situation. I think Wildstar is a fabulous game, and any game that tries to do it's own thing, I applaud whole-heartedly. I loathe to see companies push out the same crap over and over, trying to make a few bucks before their title goes f2p and then closes. Then they just make a new game, and continue the cycle of terrible games.
 
It's an insult to everyone who truly loves to game.
 
I think Carbine is going to have to bite the bullet, and tweak the attunement system a little more, as per my suggestion (allowing us to do any part in any order we can get them done) and I think that might be enough (besides server merges to fix pop issues) to keep people playing enough to really get hooked on this fantastic title.
 
The combat is so simple, yet so beautiful to play. It feels like you're dancing. The telegraph system is simple, yet elegant in it's design and I think it's a big part of the fact why so many enjoy the heck out of leveling mains / alts in the game.
 
Like I said, it's once you hit 50 that the pain starts and it's what is making everyone so upset. People simply don't have the patience anymore. Sad but true.
 
Anyways Carbine,  I <3 ya!
 
Cheers.
 
P.s. Evindra is an EXTREMLY NICE server. So many really amazing people on it!. The population doesn't feel very terrific though. Leveling my latest character 1-50 most maps were like ghost towns. Always lots of people in Thayd, but anywhere else? nope =)
 
Wish we could import more nice people from other servers via a merge hehe
 
I'd like to keep the ratio of awesome > douche the same, but increase the overall population hehe	
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Here's the thing - on the forums, you get the vocal minority crying out over issues.  Most times, there is exaggeration and hyperbole thrown in, so every issue seems like the sky is falling. 
 
When that attitude starts to show itself in game is when you really have an issue.  Now the people that are just trying to play and enjoy themselves are being subjected to the same negativity, they start wondering if the game is healthy.  I will try to delineate on your points as best I can from a player who has been playing since day 1:
 
1. This is true.  You can "exploit" the arena system.  I wouldn't say matchmaking is "broken", but it is not working as intended, I don't think.
2. I don't think this is the issue.  There are a lot of reasons people are leaving.  Attunement may have been one of them, but that is getting adjusted in an upcoming patch, so the people that left because of attunement may be returning.
3. I think this really depends on what server you're on.  Granted, a two-month old game shouldn't be dead on any server, but (apparently) they do have some servers with some population issues.  I believe Stormtalon and Evindra are fairly healthy. Evindra is RP though, so I'm not sure an exodus to Evindra is good for it either.
4. See 3.
5. See 3.
6. This is probably one of the truest statements on your list.  I will explain below.
 
 
Let me preface by saying that a month ago, I would have come to Carbine's defense. Now, personally, I feel duped by the team at Carbine.  I was promised an attitude of "channels open!  Devs are listening!", but the conversation is feeling awfully one-sided.  I'm not talking about content updates - they seem to like to talk about those.  What I am talking about is bugs that are game-breaking for one reason or another.  A quest bug to one person may be breaking while a pvp or ability bug may be breaking to another. 
 
Now, I can handle bugs, especially if I know they're being worked on.  But that's the second part of the let-down, is that the communication from the dev team is spotty at best.  We're told to "check the dev tracker", but go ahead and take a look at the Dev Tracker.  See if you find any of the issues that people are really frustrated about.  So, now we have bugs that are game-breaking to some, annoyances to others, and we have very little in the way of customer outreach.  So, what you get is a community frustrated about playing the game without any idea of when it will be fixed.  To ice the cake, they may fix one thing only to break another, or they may push content out that causes more issues than before.  Again, not so much a problem if we have clear communication (as customers) and a timetable of when it would be fixed.  But we don't.
 
I try to liken it to any other business.  If I had a complaint about the service at a restaurant, and the staff just ignored me - would I return to that restaurant?  Doubtful.  Like I said, I've been here since day 1.  Unfortunately, I unsubbed this morning because of the above lack of communication.  My subscription does not seem important to them.  So I'll take it elsewhere.
 
Now, I do love this game.  I love the aesthetic, I love the music, I enjoy the questing, I enjoy the PvP.  I even play on one of the best servers: Evindra. Being ignored as a paying customer, I do not enjoy, however.  So, I have about two weeks left on my subscription.  We'll see what happens in that time. 
 
So, in short, expect much of your list to be moot once you move to another server.  A couple of your issues are developer-related, but your number 6 is nail-on-head, spot on.  It just depends on how important that is to you.	
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Evindra, where all the happiness goes!
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50 PvP is that bad, I won't go in detail as the search option will give you a good idea.  Unless you plan to pay your way to 1800 or have a carry, good luck.
 
PvP & server population are my W* concerns, pretty valid ones too.	
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- Dailies (little over 1k per day)
- Malgrave public raid event (1500ish per complete - but no one is ever around to do it)
- Vet Adventures (I read 400 a pop, I sit in match maker for hours without any popping so I dunno for sure! lol)
 
 
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A game is a clear reflection of any social hub. You'll find positive and negative people alike, but in the end, you need both to expand your outlook.
 
BKRN, do what you enjoy and look for it. There will be White Knights who assume everything is fine, and there will be Haters who assume everything is wrong.
 
You'll soon find a happy medium where the good amazes you and the bad hurts you as if it were your own family.
 
Guess that describes my passion for this game and why I want it to succeed, quite vocally at times.	
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Yeah, I....this was exactly what I thought when I read this post.
 
But you know, I don't think there's really any point in telling people this until they hit that wall themselves.  You can warn them that it's there, but until they faceplant into it it's no good.  Some things in life you just have to experience to believe. 
 
Besides, he might get lucky, move to Evindra, and continue to enjoy the game for months yet, so hey, if so, more power to him.  Or discover his destiny as a Wildstar Raider and wind up eventually doing that and enjoying it.  The odds are against him, but no reason not to let him try.  
 
I do kind of wish that people who ARE still playing and enjoying the game would not rant about the "negativity", though.  Negative attitudes alone will never kill a game -- if they did, SWTOR would be belly up right now instead of doing the brisk business it is. (I saw someone on another forum just a couple days ago frothing at the mouth about how "SWTOR may be financially successful right now BUT IT IS NOT A GOOD GAME AND IT WILL NEVER BE A GOOD GAME!", for example. There's some negativity right there.)  If the game is good enough for enough people, it will continue to exist. If it's not, it won't.  Word-of-mouth exaggerates effects that are already present but it doesn't cause a game to live or die unless it's a very small release, which Wildstar definitely is not.  
 
So if you like the game, get busy playing it. Take heart that the people who are griping in game are at least STILL THERE, which means they have some hope, right?
 
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Lol what? Get lucky? 
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Now, I can handle bugs, especially if I know they're being worked on.  But that's the second part of the let-down, is that the communication from the dev team is spotty at best.  We're told to "check the dev tracker", but go ahead and take a look at the Dev Tracker.  See if you find any of the issues that people are really frustrated about.  So, now we have bugs that are game-breaking to some, annoyances to others, and we have very little in the way of customer outreach.  So, what you get is a community frustrated about playing the game without any idea of when it will be fixed.  To ice the cake, they may fix one thing only to break another, or they may push content out that causes more issues than before.  Again, not so much a problem if we have clear communication (as customers) and a timetable of when it would be fixed.  But we don't.
 
 
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			See it's comments like ejesters that make me say. Is it that  bad? This is the main reason I'm posting. I hear that all day. 	
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			Oh I'll still play my warrior on BS just might make my main one of the guys on Evindra. I don't want to reroll warrior but I can't delete him or give him up either! Also hes 41 I'll have to finish him ;)	
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Lol what? Get lucky? 
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See it's comments like ejesters that make me say. Is it that  bad? This is the main reason I'm posting. I hear that all day. 
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I've played so many MMO's where the community is full of negativity and complaints. It's way, way over the top. 
 
Elder Scrolls Online forums are horribly depressing to read. GW2 is the same deal. I played WoW 10 years ago and they made it sound like the end was nigh and the sky was falling.
Don't take these people seriously. Games are supposed to be fun. 	
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Sorry you feel that way MeWow. I personally find the exact opposite. I see the devs communicating fixes pretty openly; and while they are often quiet on exact time frames (explicitly because if they give one, and then QA/QC takes a little longer than expected, all of us get pissed) they do provide rough ETA's most times. 
 
Most of my real issue has been with the rune system; even though I love it at its core, i am NOT a fan of the RNG on rune slot amounts. JTal (the item lead) posted an ongoing 7 part explanation of his fixes to the system....
 
Honestly, I was dumbfounded when that happened. I have NEVER in my 20+ years of playing MMO's seen a Dev do that.(JTal's post is here https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/108017-upcoming-rune-system-changes-the-series/)
 
Hope you can overcome the feeling of being ignored (honestly, Carbines doing a better job than any devs whose game I've played before), but if not, best of luck where ever you end up.
 
-Naz
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I dunno man...
 
All I can really say is that the best thing to do is to keep positive folks around. It makes a world of difference...
 
Overall Evindra is a pleasant server, we talk about things in game that are like "yeah....that could've been done better" but most of zone chat from what I've seen tends to be just random banter and CREDD prices. I honestly can't say I dislike anyone on Evindra and even in PUGs they've been nothing but friendly.
 
Negativity can't kill a game, but it can kill a players enjoyment of the game for sure. For me personally I was only really holding on to Wildstar because of friends and then we decided to put a circle together and a few of us joined Skullkickers and the positivity(while still not being blind to the games flaws of course) made a big difference. It's just great to be with people who enjoy the game and are having fun.	
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Well most of those playing are not WS players and never were, they are WoW players that are bored with WoW because they have had the same content patch now for the last year which was able to be fully completed the day it dropped.  They do this with every themepark game, they play it for a month, maybe 2 then start bashing it till their sub runs out or till wow releases something new.  This is all done so the new game doesn't take players away from their precious.  It has been happening for 10 years now.  Just go look at every other them park mmo, no real serious problems yet tons of minor problems intensified due to these whiners.  Does wildstar have some minor issues, yeah, but every game does, even WoW, but the vocal minority are making it worse because they make 3 million threads a day about the same crap.  Hey at least they don't have much they can pick out about wildstar, it is such a great game most of their complaints are about how hard it is instead of how the game is broken.
 
@Ejester, maxing out exile rep is quite easy honestly, if you do all the quests while leveling you will be around 22k to 25k, then you buy a potion of reputation and go do dailies and you will get between 2k and 3k a day.	
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This is all done so the new game doesn't take players away from their precious.  It has been happening for 10 years now
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Most of the people not enjoying Wildstar have never set eyes on this or any other game forum -- they left, without making a single peep, because they aren't having fun.  It's not complicated and there is no reason to invoke conspiracy theories to explain what's going on in the game.  
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So, you're suggesting WoW has a player base so loyal it will buy other MMOs at top prices, sub for a month or two, then unsub and spend a lot of time trashing all other MMOs just so WoW won't ever, ever leave them?
 
Holy crap, Blizzard has incorporated mind-control paradigms into its MMO to produce fanatically loyal customers!  Within five years they will perfect this "Snow Crash" technolgoy, combine with Google and Microsoft and control THE WORLD!!!   :o  :o  :o
 
Seriously dude -- none of WoW's fans shell out good cash for other MMOs just to try and protect "the precious". The precious doesn't need it, the precious doesn't want it, the precious doesn't care about it, and nothing is going to dethrone the precious, so there is absolutely no need for any of this.  Only WoW can kill WoW at this point.  The idea that a bunch of WoW fans bought Wildstar at launch PLANNING to have a deliberately miserable time with it so they could ensure it would never threaten WoW is...is....here, have another box of tin foil, you're going to need it.  
 
I think "deliberate sabotage by evil fanatic WoW fans" is easily the nuttiest theory for Wildstar's current population issues I've seen so far.  The "vocal minority" isn't responsible for Wildstar's problems. Wildstar's problems would not magically go away  if people stopped talking about them.  Most of the people not enjoying Wildstar have never set eyes on this or any other game forum -- they left, without making a single peep, because they aren't having fun.  It's not complicated and there is no reason to invoke conspiracy theories to explain what's going on in the game.  
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Sorry you feel that way MeWow. I personally find the exact opposite. I see the devs communicating fixes pretty openly; and while they are often quiet on exact time frames (explicitly because if they give one, and then QA/QC takes a little longer than expected, all of us get pissed) they do provide rough ETA's most times. 
 
Most of my real issue has been with the rune system; even though I love it at its core, i am NOT a fan of the RNG on rune slot amounts. JTal (the item lead) posted an ongoing 7 part explanation of his fixes to the system....
 
Honestly, I was dumbfounded when that happened. I have NEVER in my 20+ years of playing MMO's seen a Dev do that.(JTal's post is here https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/108017-upcoming-rune-system-changes-the-series/)
 
Hope you can overcome the feeling of being ignored (honestly, Carbines doing a better job than any devs whose game I've played before), but if not, best of luck where ever you end up.
 
-Naz
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I have decided no matter what anybody says I will stand behind Wildstar and will be playing it for the long haul.
 
Rerolling on Evindra now. Thanks for all the replies guys helped me a lot. 	
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Just got a dev response to an issue that has been plaguing me and others  ;) so maybe I'll stick around.  He said the fix is in the pipeline for early next week.
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This community is going to kill its own game with its constant negativity.
 
Putting aside all the valid arguments, real frustrations, and stupid rants-- drowning our reddit and official forums in complaints and negativity and reasons why you quit discourages new people from picking up the game and encourages current players to leave.
Is that really what we, as a community, want?
 
Carbine is in constant, open dialog with us, in a way that MMO companies rarely are. We make the game and the community look far worse than it really is in how we choose to react.	
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Carbine is in constant, open dialog with us, in a way that MMO companies rarely are. 
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Really Tex? I will reroll today sometime. My friend has a guild on this server but its mainly for pvp. I love PVE though and have been thinking about a reroll. 
 
I might just do that. 
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Just keep in mind that Evindra is an RP server and those people tend to...
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You're not wrong with most of your post, but no.
This? No.
Not anymore.
Not on the most pressing issues (mostly server population and several nasty bugs). We needed concrete info and solutions at least 2 weeks ago, we still don't have it.
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Just keep in mind that Evindra is an RP server and those people tend to.. BE TOTALLY DOWN FOR A GOOD *cupcake*ING TIME!
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Certainly true.
While I was writing I thought about how the adventure guy yesterday was unwilling to be any more clear about adventures, because the community feels they've been promised something the moment an idea is mentioned. I wonder how much of their current lack of open dialog is our own faults for previously making their conversations with us come back to bite them.
Left out my thoughts on that whole can of worms, though, for the sake of leaving a short and clear argument. 
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Tend to what!? SAY IT! C'MON SAY IT!
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So what's the deal guys? I'm not even level 50 (41) and since I started playing all people are doing is bitching about this game. 
This is from mostly randoms, people in different guilds, when questing, people in main towns all chat etc.
 
1.PVP matchmaking is broken and their system is skewed allowing tanked raters to take advantage
2.PVE Attunement is making everyone quit the game 
3.This game is already dead
4.RIP Wildstar
5.40 and 20 man raids are ruining the game since there's not even 20 people online.
6.Wildstar acts transparent but really they aren't doing anything to fix any of the problems.
7.1-6 All over every 20 minutes. Repeat
 
TLDR- This is all I'm hearing from fellow WS players. This is not my opinion as I'm not even 50 yet.
 
My Opinion is I love this game, I've quested 90% and thoroughly enjoyed my time doing so, I had fun pvping the little I did it, and overall its a great feel. But is there really that many problems at 50?
I can't continue to play when everyone is crying in the game. Holy cow it's annoying. 
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LOL dude, come edit your Opost when you play 50 for 3 days played. you might not be alive because you already hung yourself. oh and pvp...spend eh...10 hours....no 5....no...1 hour. i dare you to play 1 hour of arenas and bg each at 50 and tell me how you love it. please.
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LOL dude, come edit your Opost when you play 50 for 3 days played. you might not be alive because you already hung yourself. oh and pvp...spend eh...10 hours....no 5....no...1 hour. i dare you to play 1 hour of arenas and bg each at 50 and tell me how you love it. please.
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Wildstar acts transparent? News to me...I went looking for a player census after people kept telling me the other servers were even more dead than mine, which is apparently the least dead pve server...There are none...Maybe I'm just spoiled by superior companies like square enix, because ffxi had regular breakdown stats and player censuses, so that everyone knew the health of the game. The japanese devs were very straight forward and gracious to their player base.That was a nice change of pace from being treated like a rented milking cow.Anyway.... 40 mins left on path of exile download, then I'm out, so you won't have to hear my bitching anymore.I admit i was reluctant to face the fact that the games dying. Shit, I dumped money, and LOTS OF TIME into this. I was playing for the long game thinking it'd be my go to gaming experience for a couple years til the next gen mmos came along.2 months of a nightmarish hassle with their support team, constant bugs, shithouse pvp rating, and a large bucket of other worms that are eating this game from the inside out.It didn't help that when I went to see their rating on popular company rating sites... It's bad... like 3 out of 10 and F's across the board... The companies own employees call them a feeder company, a company that brings fresh talent into the industry only to lose them to companies that treat them better.Idk... I am one stubborn *cupcake*... But I give up. Gonna do some give aways if the server starts working again, then off to poe I go.
 	
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Bugged quests that were halting progression.  Lots of Dominion players were hung up in Auroria/Farside.
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Heh, only bug I hit in the early zones was in Algoroc.  I went through Auroria twice and didn't bug up, and Spenser's definitely 100% completed Farside's quests and challenges as far as I'm aware.
 
What quests specifically?  Did I manage a workaround accidentally?
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Heh, only bug I hit in the early zones was in Algoroc.  I went through Auroria twice and didn't bug up, and Spenser's definitely 100% completed Farside's quests and challenges as far as I'm aware.
 
What quests specifically?  Did I manage a workaround accidentally?
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No, the last patch broke them almost two weeks ago.  Auroria is [Detonator Duplicates] and Farside is [Light Up the Sky].  They were recently acknowledged in the 'Known Bugs' thread.
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Well, I haven't been in Auroria for two weeks, but I think I've been in Farside.  Which quest is Light Up The Sky?
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The one where you get into the ship and have a dogfight with the marauder.  Don't remember his name.
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In sum for you
-PvP is broken esp at 50. You will get raped by those who get 1500/1800 rating with fire/fusion slots while you cant have that. Or either you get 30min+ queue
-Raid is impossible if u cant find 4 good friends (or a good guild) that care to help you attune. Yes they will be nerfing requirement but that doesn't come out from their cave to implement yet. Evenif the nerf was done, you still need helping hands as most of the people you will find will already attuned.
-RNG drops. You wont get epic everytime you complete dungeon. Also even epic drop (at 20% rate), the slots might be suck, other people might need it etc so on.
-Rune system are complete garbage RNG. And if you do roll on low pop server, the rune cost will be nuts. Yes they are trying to fix the rune slot but still if you're on low pop server, the price will still high as *cupcake*.
-Itemization of all dungeon/adventure/raid drops are suck compared to Crafting.
 
If you know this and you still want to play, go for it. And as other suggested, reroll to other server which higher pop, that will make you play game longer than rolling in low pop server. Because we also unsure that Devs will give us free transfer or not.	
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Oh, okay.  The only thing I remember was that it liked to deselect him after I shot him, but I got him down before we even cleared the canyon, so I shot him over and over on our way back to the landing pad.  What broke?
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In both quests, when you select the target and press the appropriate key, it says that "You can't do that to this target."  According to the devs, the underlying mechanic is what broke, so it should be one fix for all the quests.
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Wildstar acts transparent? News to me...
 
I went looking for a player census after people kept telling me the other servers were even more dead than mine, which is apparently the least dead pve server...
 
There are none...
 
Maybe I'm just spoiled by superior companies like square enix, because ffxi had regular breakdown stats and player censuses, so that everyone knew the health of the game. The japanese devs were very straight forward and gracious to their player base.
 
That was a nice change of pace from being treated like a rented milking cow.
 
Anyway.... 40 mins left on path of exile download, then I'm out, so you won't have to hear my bitching anymore.
 
I admit i was reluctant to face the fact that the games dying. Shit, I dumped money, and LOTS OF TIME into this. I was playing for the long game thinking it'd be my go to gaming experience for a couple years til the next gen mmos came along.
 
2 months of a nightmarish hassle with their support team, constant bugs, shithouse pvp rating, and a large bucket of other worms that are eating this game from the inside out.
 
It didn't help that when I went to see their rating on popular company rating sites... It's bad... like 3 out of 10 and F's across the board... The companies own employees call them a feeder company, a company that brings fresh talent into the industry only to lose them to companies that treat them better.
 
Idk... I am one stubborn *cupcake*... But I give up. Gonna do some give aways if the server starts working again, then off to poe I go.
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			Tex is right about Evindra being awesome.  If you're looking to get in on the Dominion side I can help you out.  I'm Rakhar in game and I'm on late nights.  The Skullkickers guild leader is Jacosta (Scott of Awesome here on the forums).	
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In sum for you
-PvP is broken esp at 50. You will get *cupcake*d by those who get 1500/1800 rating with fire/fusion slots while you cant have that. Or either you get 30min+ queue
-Raid is impossible if u cant find 4 good friends (or a good guild) that care to help you attune. Yes they will be nerfing requirement but that doesn't come out from their cave to implement yet. Evenif the nerf was done, you still need helping hands as most of the people you will find will already attuned.
-RNG drops. You wont get epic everytime you complete dungeon. Also even epic drop (at 20% rate), the slots might be suck, other people might need it etc so on.
-Rune system are complete garbage RNG. And if you do roll on low pop server, the rune cost will be nuts. Yes they are trying to fix the rune slot but still if you're on low pop server, the price will still high as *cupcake*.
-Itemization of all dungeon/adventure/raid drops are suck compared to Crafting.
 
If you know this and you still want to play, go for it. And as other suggested, reroll to other server which higher pop, that will make you play game longer than rolling in low pop server. Because we also unsure that Devs will give us free transfer or not.
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I agree with you BKRN. Every aspect of this game is fun because of one thing: The combat. Whether I'm questing, PvPing, doing some adventure or dungeon.. I'm having fun. Now besides that there are some issues with attunement, pvp rating abusement and so on.. BUT those are things that can be corrected within time! Ignore those who are being impatient or calling it quits -_-!.. Don't let that stop you from having YOUR fun  :)
 
I'm sure every person who has tried WildStar.. whether they have left it or are still playing can agree on 1 thing....that the combat, telegraphs and fast paced action is what makes this game exciting!! I've said it before in other threads...         I hope the people who are considering to leave WildStar will give it 1 year to see these changes fixed.. no MMO is perfect... just as World of Warcraft took years to correct some of it flaws.. I'm sure Carbine wants to fix it wants to patch things up ASAP. Be realistic guys.. they cannot just pump out changes every week.. they need to test and make sure no further issues arise when a drop comes. 
I remember one of the devs mentioning: It's not a sprint.. it's a marathon! LET'S HAVE THAT MINDSET!
This game is amazing ALL around.. a breath of fresh air.. keep enjoying yourself!.. 
(I'm having a blast as well  ^_^.. I LOVE THE ART STYLE  :lol:)
 
Carbine will keep working to polish WildStar.. I know they will not let their game die. I know they wont give up!	
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I agree with you BKRN. Every aspect of this game is fun because of one thing: The combat. Whether I'm questing, PvPing, doing some adventure or dungeon.. I'm having fun. Now besides that there are some issues with attunement, pvp rating abusement and so on.. BUT those are things that can be corrected within time! Ignore those who are being impatient or calling it quits -_-!.. Don't let that stop you from having YOUR fun  :)
 
I'm sure every person who has tried WildStar.. whether they have left it or are still playing can agree on 1 thing....that the combat, telegraphs and fast paced action is what makes this game exciting!! I've said it before in other threads...         I hope the people who are considering to leave WildStar will give it 1 year to see these changes fixed.. no MMO is perfect... just as World of Warcraft took years to correct some of it flaws.. I'm sure Carbine wants to fix it wants to patch things up ASAP. Be realistic guys.. they cannot just pump out changes every week.. they need to test and make sure no further issues arise when a drop comes. 
I remember one of the devs mentioning: It's not a sprint.. it's a marathon! LET'S HAVE THAT MINDSET!
This game is amazing ALL around.. a breath of fresh air.. keep enjoying yourself!.. 
(I'm having a blast as well  ^_^.. I LOVE THE ART STYLE  :lol:)
 
Carbine will keep working to polish WildStar.. I know they will not let their game die. I know they wont give up!
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So what's the deal guys? I'm not even level 50 (41) and since I started playing all people are doing is bitching about this game. 
This is from mostly randoms, people in different guilds, when questing, people in main towns all chat etc.
 
1.PVP matchmaking is broken and their system is skewed allowing tanked raters to take advantage
2.PVE Attunement is making everyone quit the game 
3.This game is already dead
4.RIP Wildstar
5.40 and 20 man raids are ruining the game since there's not even 20 people online.
6.Wildstar acts transparent but really they aren't doing anything to fix any of the problems.
7.1-6 All over every 20 minutes. Repeat
 
TLDR- This is all I'm hearing from fellow WS players. This is not my opinion as I'm not even 50 yet.
 
My Opinion is I love this game, I've quested 90% and thoroughly enjoyed my time doing so, I had fun pvping the little I did it, and overall its a great feel. But is there really that many problems at 50?
I can't continue to play when everyone is crying in the game. Holy cow it's annoying. 
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			Why all the negativity you say? Maybe there might be an actual reason. The game runs like poop wait until you get into 40 mans and all wings you'll be getting as low as 8 fps with a 780gtx and i7-2600k@4.5ghz. CPU usage is 40-50% it's laughable then there are constant memory leaks(enjoy restarting your game every 5 seconds) graphical glitches. A lot of very annoying bugs such as not being able to switch las abilities unless I do a full 30 second log out and character switch. Action set 3 bugging out which has been an issue since beta. Countdown for spells going on cooldowns not occurring. I could go on and on people who say they don't have issues either only sit in housing or haven't raided 	
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Well I will tell you right now, the game is pretty fun up until you get to the later elder game content.. where you find yourself only really able to do dungeons, adventures, raids and pvp... now I can tell you that I have spent a few hours myself camping pvp towns and murdering everyone.. while that is amusing at times there has got to be something to take a break from that.. and that thing is what i just mentioned, dungeons, adventures, raids and pvp.
 
The pvp is terrible.. I thought it was alright for the first month or two.. but it has become very tiresome and the ranked gear sets seem to be unreachable and they are the ONLY set of gear that puts you on even ground with anyone.. so why bother to grind all that out just to be dead even with someone? the loot system for pvp is horrid and needs to be reworked I already speculated about this in my post here on the forums--> https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/109365-this-game-is-not-fun-anymore/
 
now..  then the real problem here is that all of these options available to you at the end game are simply this.. NOT FUN.
That is the problem.. the way the game is setup it gives you this illusion of freedom letting you build your own skill sets and amps.. but the real deal here is that you have to use a certain amount of stuns/interrupts and just go on this stun and interrupt rotation every time you want to fight something with a group.
And there are tons of problems with this, the first being that if the game is going to rely so heavily on this it should come up with a better system of letting you know the ques to use your interrupts and allow players to setup an order for interrupting in game and make you flash or something when your que is up.. this would take down a ton of frustration from playing with random people not in a chat together.. as it is next to impossible to set this up properly and keep everyone sharp and on point... now the other issue and the REAL issue I have with the way the gameplay mechanics are at this level is that.. NONE OF THIS WAS SHOWN IN THE ORIGINAL VIDEOS AND NONE OF THE GAMEPLAY WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR THIS!!!!
IT WAS ALL ABOUT SEEING THE TELLS ON THE FLOOR AND MOVING YOUR ASS!!!! STRATEGY... DODGING.. HARDCORE...
All I see going on is okay you are up to stun.. interrupt interrupt interrupt stun/knockdown.. okay.. your turn.... and this is some BORING LAME GAMEPLAY!!!! This is a major reason people are quitting and it is the reason I quit.. IT IS NOT FUN. and it SURE AS HELL IS NOT "Hardcore"	
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Why all the negativity you say? Maybe there might be an actual reason. The game runs like poop wait until you get into 40 mans and all wings you'll be getting as low as 8 fps with a 780gtx and i7-2600k@4.5ghz. CPU usage is 40-50% it's laughable then there are constant memory leaks(enjoy restarting your game every 5 seconds) graphical glitches. A lot of very annoying bugs such as not being able to switch las abilities unless I do a full 30 second log out and character switch. Action set 3 bugging out which has been an issue since beta. Countdown for spells going on cooldowns not occurring. I could go on and on people who say they don't have issues either only sit in housing or haven't raided 
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I am also a player that will provide feedback about things I don't like (and it is almost always based on the cosmetics aspects of games). However players who trend on complaining trouble me because I do not see any positive motives from opening the same negative threads again and again. -Besides making players who actually read them and take them seriously worry about the game-
 
I have seen the bugs of the game, reported a few myself even but nothing justifies some of the reactions in the forums. The game is amazing, the world can (and I hope will) become huge and turn Wildstar into a big success like it deserves. Do the developers need to fix the game bugs? Yes! Of course they do but that is the normal process.
 
Personally I cannot wait for the new features, the new skymap music, maybe at some point a potential barber shop, new content and costumes and perhaps in the distant future the ability to edit the ground texture of your house plot. :)	
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Oh lawd, OH LAWD - Oh lawwwwwd.
 
- I've never had a long PVP queue...Maybe one 30minute queue...ever.
- You're complaining, because you need to be FRIENDLY on an MMO, to be able to GET HELP to be able to play the game in GROUPED instances. *Facepalm*
- You're complaining about RNG....Doing its job. WHILST complaining that its not EASY ENOUGH to get epics.
 
Go back to Hello Kitty Adventure where you can fart in a general direction and get epics. Kthx.
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"We got a population"	
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			I do like Evindra a lot, but let's not kid ourselves when we make it seem like we're not in trouble when it comes to faction balance and server population being in decline. The people who play on our server are great, but there's less and less of them each week.. :(	
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