109754-why-i-am-not-playing-wildstar-and-why-id-love-to-play-it-more

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So I started playing this from day 1 of launch. Had beta access, wasn't impressed. But I saw this video from this player saying, "Get to 20 and do your first dungeon, you will be glad you did."
 
I followed said advice and he was right.
 
Unfortunately having grown up and not having the same amount of time I used to have when playing WOW, Aion, Star Trek Online, (enter MMO here, I probably played it), etc., I am working a full week, I get home tired and don't always feel like logging into Wildstar. Add to that the fact that my guild basically said, "We are not interested in the game anymore, find another one", albeit in the nicest possible way, I am now left with the feeling that I am having to do more effort to find another guild because playing with PUGs in dungeons with such learning curve is painful. That adds up to me being tired and really only playing a lot during the weekend. Well, I used to anyway.
 
The reason I was drawn to Wildstar was the difficult dungeons. Before Wildstar I was a hardcore raider, and a raid leader. I never showed up without consumables. I never showed up without enchantments. I never showed up without watching a video about an encounter. I really love raiding. I really love instancing. But I find that the difficulty of the game is a double-edged sword. I WANT the difficulty but it also makes it harder for me, a casually hardcore player, to pick it up as of and when I can play it, due to my busy working schedule. I used to be one of those who levelled fast, now I need a bit more time, and a lot of those people who have time on their hands will out-level me and I feel left behind.
 
So, I guess I am saying, "It's not you, it's me." Wildstar caters to certain players, and I look at this game with a nostalgic feeling of what I used to be and I know that I am not one of those players anymore.
 
The other day I was thinking of coming back. I still have an active subscription, and certainly after playing other games (Final Fantasy XIV to name one) I feel even more that Wildstar would be the right game for me. If it were a little more forgiving with what it asks of me in terms of time. You know, maybe with some tiered difficulty levels you can choose when you don't feel like hitting shit head on.
 
You know, after playing Wildstar you look at a telegraph in Final Fantasy XIV and think, "Wow it took you long enough to actually land that blow, in the mean time I had 3 coffees, I tied my shoe laces and I redid my make up. Oh yeah, I also dodged the telegraph."
 
You look at this skill that says "Only applies damage buff if you strike from the side" and you tilt your head and go, "You know, if you really want me to move, you could give me a good reason, like dodging a giant laser, but this buff thing? This is just artificial."
 
And what's all this, "We give you lots of gear just because you are breathing air, but then we'll tier gate you, so you can't progress at the pace you want. What was that? You have a whole weekend to play finally? Tough, only 3 hours of that weekend will get you any progress, because then we cap you." Which is annoying when you cannot play every single day to reach your caps, and you have more time at weekends.
 
Wildstar has totally changed the way I look at MMOs.
 
So, what is your problem, you ask. Find another guild.
 
Well, I could, but having seen some reports and forecasts, it sounds like Wildstar might have a dwindling playerbase and I fear I'll just be logging into an empty server, relegated to PUGging once again, and left with only the hardcore raiding guilds who will not accept people with limited schedules.
 
Hey you reading this can't really do anything about it, but I just needed a vent. Because I love this game but I still feel I can't play it. So thanks for listening.	
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			"LFM to run dungeons with. Preferably casual-hardcore players who have full time jobs, can play during A-B time in the [evening/afternoon/morning/weekends], and are drawn to Wildstar's difficult dungeons. Can play [dps/heal/tank], but prefer [dps/heal/tank]. I'm on [server] [faction]. Feel free to account friend me: [name@server], and let's get some dungeon runs going!"	
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dude i wouldnt even say its the guilds or the work schedule or any of that. you want to be able to play 100% like you used to but cant...but so what?
 
i also work a full time job, work out after work when possible, gotta cook dinner and do gf time, and i still can manage it. granted, i have not progressed as much as i would have if i was 16 again, but thats fine, life changes. if you enjoy the game though, play it anyways and dont see it as "ugh i havent got my mats for my consumables this raid week"
 
think of it as "hell yeah i get a little time to mash on wildstar and add somethin new to a character"
 
pugs may suck but people are getting better and learning the content. i think the people that are really bad will end up stop playing anyway so dont trip about that. the dungeons are pretty easy once you do 2 or 3 runs. you would want a guild for that but since population is getting lower and lower, guilds seem to be working with each other to fill groups.
 
hope this helps, as i am in the same boat and it kinda sucks but i think of it this way. I can either go play a game that doesnt require progression and ill get bored of it quickly, or i can play wildstar and make a cool character like i wanted to and not trip on how far ive gotten because I can't just stop being an adult, but i still want to play the game.	
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Funny you mentioned that thing about the telegraphs. Did a boss fight today in Diablo 3 on PS4 and the boss was throwing a bunch of  what us Wildstarians would call. "just stay out of the red is it really that hard!".  The other 3 players were freaking out about it and running around like chickens with their heads cut off taking a load of damage!
 
I never laughed so hard in my life as I was casually, and I mean very casually just slightly moving away from them as smoothly and easily as possible, standing just to the left or right or behind the telegraphs about the width of a hair away from them dealing me damage like it was nothing. Just thought I would share that.	
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So, I guess I am saying, "It's not you, it's me." Wildstar caters to certain players, and I look at this game with a nostalgic feeling of what I used to be and I know that I am not one of those players anymore.
 
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			Servers seem dead? Instant solution. Remove the forums. Then the 5,000 clowns posting non-sense there rather than play the game will be back online with the other 50-how ever many thousand people are currently enjoying the game.	
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Servers seem dead? Instant solution. Remove the forums. Then the 5,000 clowns posting non-sense there rather than play the game will be back online with the other 50-how ever many thousand people are currently enjoying the game.
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Servers seem dead? Instant solution. Remove the forums. Then the 5,000 clowns posting non-sense there rather than play the game will be back online with the other 50-how ever many thousand people are currently enjoying the game.
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You're fighting windmills, Don Quixote.
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Dea, this may come as a shock to you but....
 
 
 
 
 It was a joke... 
 
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It's not funny if you gotta point that out, lol. Also I love my windmill comment too much, not editing!
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I like it too, please don't edit it :D
 
But really, don't take things so seriously... we are discussing a video game after all, not world peace, or nuclear proliferation :3
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But it's serious buznis can't you tell.. You're in GD! Everything is crucial, the world will come crumbling down!
 
People know I'm not right now very happy with WildStar, but come on... Hyperbole everywhere! Everything is crucial!
 
The sky is falling!
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I find alcohol is a superb solution to such issues.
 
Puppy hugs work too... occasionally
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Servers seem dead? Instant solution. Remove the forums. Then the 5,000 clowns posting non-sense there rather than play the game will be back online with the other 50-how ever many thousand people are currently enjoying the game.
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			I wonder if anyone at Carbone reads these threads, or whether they just post a template when they lock em.	
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wait are you included with those clowns posting non sense? you must be, because i dont include myself as being a clown, just someone that wants the game to work and to help others find solutions to the problems
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As I was saying before I was interrupted....
 
 
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So I started playing this from day 1 of launch. Had beta access, wasn't impressed. But I saw this video from this player saying, "Get to 20 and do your first dungeon, you will be glad you did."
 
I followed said advice and he was right.
 
Unfortunately having grown up and not having the same amount of time I used to have when playing WOW, Aion, Star Trek Online, (enter MMO here, I probably played it), etc., I am working a full week, I get home tired and don't always feel like logging into Wildstar. Add to that the fact that my guild basically said, "We are not interested in the game anymore, find another one", albeit in the nicest possible way, I am now left with the feeling that I am having to do more effort to find another guild because playing with PUGs in dungeons with such learning curve is painful. That adds up to me being tired and really only playing a lot during the weekend. Well, I used to anyway.
 
The reason I was drawn to Wildstar was the difficult dungeons. Before Wildstar I was a hardcore raider, and a raid leader. I never showed up without consumables. I never showed up without enchantments. I never showed up without watching a video about an encounter. I really love raiding. I really love instancing. But I find that the difficulty of the game is a double-edged sword. I WANT the difficulty but it also makes it harder for me, a casually hardcore player, to pick it up as of and when I can play it, due to my busy working schedule. I used to be one of those who levelled fast, now I need a bit more time, and a lot of those people who have time on their hands will out-level me and I feel left behind.
 
So, I guess I am saying, "It's not you, it's me." Wildstar caters to certain players, and I look at this game with a nostalgic feeling of what I used to be and I know that I am not one of those players anymore.
 
The other day I was thinking of coming back. I still have an active subscription, and certainly after playing other games (Final Fantasy XIV to name one) I feel even more that Wildstar would be the right game for me. If it were a little more forgiving with what it asks of me in terms of time. You know, maybe with some tiered difficulty levels you can choose when you don't feel like hitting shit head on.
 
You know, after playing Wildstar you look at a telegraph in Final Fantasy XIV and think, "Wow it took you long enough to actually land that blow, in the mean time I had 3 coffees, I tied my shoe laces and I redid my make up. Oh yeah, I also dodged the telegraph."
 
You look at this skill that says "Only applies damage buff if you strike from the side" and you tilt your head and go, "You know, if you really want me to move, you could give me a good reason, like dodging a giant laser, but this buff thing? This is just artificial."
 
And what's all this, "We give you lots of gear just because you are breathing air, but then we'll tier gate you, so you can't progress at the pace you want. What was that? You have a whole weekend to play finally? Tough, only 3 hours of that weekend will get you any progress, because then we cap you." Which is annoying when you cannot play every single day to reach your caps, and you have more time at weekends.
 
Wildstar has totally changed the way I look at MMOs.
 
So, what is your problem, you ask. Find another guild.
 
Well, I could, but having seen some reports and forecasts, it sounds like Wildstar might have a dwindling playerbase and I fear I'll just be logging into an empty server, relegated to PUGging once again, and left with only the hardcore raiding guilds who will not accept people with limited schedules.
 
Hey you reading this can't really do anything about it, but I just needed a vent. Because I love this game but I still feel I can't play it. So thanks for listening.
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+1
 
I agree with your statement OP.  I love the game.  I loved leveling up.  But once I hit 50 and encountered the "elder" game, I started to hate the game.
 
I want to play it, but I just can't.	
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Dude, you post a lot. 
 
We would be playing the game, if it were fun... to do dailies... a lot... and then some more... 
 
 
 
 
oh look I'm doing dailies again... annnnnnd Scorchwing.... Netflix
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I am going to try and reply to most people here.
 
@ VicVanMeter and Limitbreaku: I appreciate your feedback being from someone in my position. I hear what you are saying and I agree that it isn't a race. For ME it isn't at least but I just seem to end up with people who just want to raid NOW. I liked the guild I was in because most people were my age, and the youngest was something like 24. That's because there was no pressure, it was a fun guild and social place. However after reading your post and Limitbreaku's, I am starting to see that there are other people out there like me who still play the game and they seem to have found a community who suits them.
 
The reports I saw were from NCSoft. So I can ignore them but they are hard numbers. It doesn't mean things won't change for the better though.
 
After posting last night I was considering a realm transfer. I wanted to transfer my higher character as I have a zillion alts (When the game came out I decided to try them all rather than just base myself on "What is best for me" forum threads). I was wondering if it was wasted money, but after reading the posts here, I am feeling more positive about finding people that understand my position.
 
@Reconditioned: Yes you make a good point ;) I think it might be a good idea to scout around to see what servers would be best too.
 
@Forcedchaos: I know right, it's funny how everything else seems easier now. 
 
@Gewd: The thought has crossed my mind. I think megaservers would probably alleviate a lot of issues with population and make it easier to find like-minded people.
 
I hope I didn't miss anyone of those who responded to me.	
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You can cross-realm group for dungeons, no need to transfer just for that.
If you have some guilds in mind that you might want to raid with, or socialize with, that's a different story.	
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I am going to try and reply to most people here.
 
@ VicVanMeter and Limitbreaku: I appreciate your feedback being from someone in my position. I hear what you are saying and I agree that it isn't a race. For ME it isn't at least but I just seem to end up with people who just want to raid NOW. I liked the guild I was in because most people were my age, and the youngest was something like 24. That's because there was no pressure, it was a fun guild and social place. However after reading your post and Limitbreaku's, I am starting to see that there are other people out there like me who still play the game and they seem to have found a community who suits them.
 
The reports I saw were from NCSoft. So I can ignore them but they are hard numbers. It doesn't mean things won't change for the better though.
 
After posting last night I was considering a realm transfer. I wanted to transfer my higher character as I have a zillion alts (When the game came out I decided to try them all rather than just base myself on "What is best for me" forum threads). I was wondering if it was wasted money, but after reading the posts here, I am feeling more positive about finding people that understand my position.
 
@Reconditioned: Yes you make a good point ;) I think it might be a good idea to scout around to see what servers would be best too.
 
@Forcedchaos: I know right, it's funny how everything else seems easier now. 
 
@Gewd: The thought has crossed my mind. I think megaservers would probably alleviate a lot of issues with population and make it easier to find like-minded people.
 
I hope I didn't miss anyone of those who responded to me.
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I am going to try and reply to most people here.
 
@ VicVanMeter and Limitbreaku: I appreciate your feedback being from someone in my position. I hear what you are saying and I agree that it isn't a race. For ME it isn't at least but I just seem to end up with people who just want to raid NOW. I liked the guild I was in because most people were my age, and the youngest was something like 24. That's because there was no pressure, it was a fun guild and social place. However after reading your post and Limitbreaku's, I am starting to see that there are other people out there like me who still play the game and they seem to have found a community who suits them.
 
The reports I saw were from NCSoft. So I can ignore them but they are hard numbers. It doesn't mean things won't change for the better though.
 
After posting last night I was considering a realm transfer. I wanted to transfer my higher character as I have a zillion alts (When the game came out I decided to try them all rather than just base myself on "What is best for me" forum threads). I was wondering if it was wasted money, but after reading the posts here, I am feeling more positive about finding people that understand my position.
 
@Reconditioned: Yes you make a good point ;) I think it might be a good idea to scout around to see what servers would be best too.
 
@Forcedchaos: I know right, it's funny how everything else seems easier now. 
 
@Gewd: The thought has crossed my mind. I think megaservers would probably alleviate a lot of issues with population and make it easier to find like-minded people.
 
I hope I didn't miss anyone of those who responded to me.
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I find alcohol is a superb solution to such issues.
 
Puppy hugs work too... occasionally
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