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Carbine is making the Rest in Piecemaker skin available again... 
 
https://twitter.com/WildStar/status/668542562198687744	
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			No even surprised :D	
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Yikes...all i can say...is yikes...
be interesting to see where this goes...
			
				
	Edited November 22, 2015 by Typrop	
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Oh nice, thanks for bringing this to my attention or i would of never known.
 
Now i can get and enjoy a once unobtainable weapon and /popcorn at all the whining special snowflakes who managed to do the really hard and challenging mission of
 
-insert limited time code within limited time-
 
Waiting on my email now :D	
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			I just have no words, I'm furious!	
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			That's cool.  Not sure why people have a problem with it being available again, it's not like I did anything uber-awesome-1337 to get it.  I just happened to read Carbine news at the right time and cast a vote.  And I don't even remember if that's the one I voted on  :lol:	
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That's cool.  Not sure why people have a problem with it being available again, it's not like I did anything uber-awesome-1337 to get it.  I just happened to read Carbine news at the right time and cast a vote.  And I don't even remember if that's the one I voted on  :lol:
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That's cool.  Not sure why people have a problem with it being available again, it's not like I did anything uber-awesome-1337 to get it.  I just happened to read Carbine news at the right time and cast a vote.  And I don't even remember if that's the one I voted on  :lol:
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Personally I'm upset about this really
 
I have no issue with them giving the sword out again, but I demand that we get the beer canon, toaster resonaters, etc...Since this is the 2nd of this type of promotion and hitching of the previous it should feel like it y aknow? Give previous item obtainers an added on weapon from the ones that didn't win and give new acquirers the whole package.
 
I DEMAND BEER CANONS!	
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			It's the same skins as before also? What a shame. Not surprised tbh	
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It's the whole ego thing. People, in real life and in games, like to brag about stuff they have or did that others don't have or didn't do. I don't doubt I've done it at some point or points in my life, the showing off part I mean, but I don't recall ever getting angry over something becoming available again so that others who weren't around at the time of the original release are able to get it. Heck, I always thought it was absolutely ridiculous that an armour set was, until somewhat recently, only available during a quest chain that only occurred during the first year of a certain game. Oh, and it required you to run the quest chain most of the 7 days (I think it was) of the event to get the full set because each day unlocked the next quest; cool idea in itself to have one quest unlock the next one for tomorrow but not cool when the event lasts only a few days and is never to return.
 
Obviously to each their own and you can't really control how you feel but still, I'll never understand the attitude because it's just not a part of me. I'm more the type that I know what I did, I know where my item(s) came from, and I don't really care how someone else gets it as long as it isn't through hacking, cheating, or something like that. I guess I'm just not into "exclusive" virtual items like a lot of others are.
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Personally I'm upset about this really
 
I have no issue with them giving the sword out again, but I demand that we get the beer canon, toaster resonaters, etc...Since this is the 2nd of this type of promotion and hitching of the previous it should feel like it y aknow? Give previous item obtainers an added on weapon from the ones that didn't win and give new acquirers the whole package.
 
I DEMAND BEER CANONS!
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			How do you get those items?I signed in, but didn't get anything XD	
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I'd understand ego if there was actually some effort put into acquiring it, but all we did was click on an image  :huh:
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How do you get those items?I signed in, but didn't get anything XD
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Being relatively new to the game, I didn't even know these (at least the weapon skin) were "exclusive" items until the complaints on Twitter started rolling in; then I saw people talking about voting on something being all you had to do.
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Yes, they "were" exclusive, and Carbine specifically said so here: http://www.wildstar-online.com/uk/news/wildstar-teams-with-pc-gamer-for-weapon-content/
 
They even stated:
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Every person who votes will receive some exclusive in-game items! The winning weapon will be made exclusively available to you post-launch. You can also be the most popular kid on Nexus...
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			who knows I might get it this time... last time I was up pulling all nighters and I passed out for like 12 hours, woke up to find they gave away skins for the class I played that I could never get again.sick.I signed up for the newsletter, but I'm willing to bet I probably still wont get it because... you know​​	
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Yes, they "were" exclusive, and Carbine specifically said so here: http://www.wildstar-online.com/uk/news/wildstar-teams-with-pc-gamer-for-weapon-content/
 
They even stated:
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			It is silly to be upset about this. It affects nothing negatively.	
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That's fine, I wasn't disputing it. However there are shades of meaning, like I tried to say. Exclusive to the people who complete the pcgamer/Wildstar promotions, and exclusive for this one thing for all time are both 'exclusive' but two different things. And honestly, I have no beef with them not being clear, and bringing it back again at a later date.
 
Expecting them to create a weapon skin for a few thousand people then never ever ever give it out again for a game that has tens of thousands of players, is ridiculous.
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Why would it be ridiculous? It's rewarding the players who supported the game in the beginning and participated in a one-time event.
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There is a currently mount available in the game that is exclusive to players who had an active subscription since launch. How long, then, until that's made available to everyone?
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*1st world problems
 
Thought about replying and agreeing with Lemurian but...
 
/popcorn
 
Hopefully this'll bring Wildstar to the attention of more prospective players thanks to "hey whats this promotion item i just got for? a gravestone sword? oh this f2p game looks cool, imma try it"
			
				
	Edited November 23, 2015 by Cor	
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			I'm sorry, but on this issue we obviously disagree. I don't think that rewarding veteran players is a wasted effort. This being made available again causes the RIP sword to just be another sword model the finds its way into everyone's holo-wardrobe.
			
				
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I'm sorry, but on this issue we obviously disagree. I don't think that rewarding veteran players is a wasted effort. This being made available again causes the RIP sword to just be another sword model the finds its way into everyone's holo-wardrobe.
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I'm sorry, but on this issue we obviously disagree. I don't think that rewarding veteran players is a wasted effort.
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We would obviously disagree if I had said "I think rewarding veteran players is a wasted effort", but a regular giveaway is not a reward. As I pointed out, you didn't even have to be a player, you just had to have an account. You could literally have just claimed the reward and never played the game again until today. That's not rewarding veteran players. There is nothing worthy of reward there.
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My post wasn't directed at you. How the item was received isn't the issue.
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I mean, you make it the issue when you say "it was rewarded to players who supported the game" when that's not actually true.
 
Like, if somebody wants to say "I don't want other people to have the nice things I have, because then I feel less nice about having them", then okay-- I think people who feel that way are wrong to feel that way, but at least they aren't trying to say that they did anything special that somehow indicates what they did was worth more than what new players are doing to get the item. Because it's not. What the old players did to get the item wasn't special, and it wasn't any more special than what new players will do to get the item. They do not somehow "deserve it" more than the new players will.
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Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said this particular item was a reward to players who supported the game. In fact, the only times I mentioned rewarding veteran players was in reference to the concept Lemuria put forth of  creating a weapon skin specifically for a few thousand people. You're trying to create an issue out of nothing.
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Wait what, you think this sword is a reward for veteran players? the *cupcake* are you smoking? you didnt even have to PLAY THE DAMN GAME!? to be ellegible to get it
 
I played since beta, didnt get the sword because i wasnt in the right place at the right time for the limited time code within limited time nonsense, now everyone has another opportunity, for however long this promotion from pcgamer lasts (usually a few months if Mechwarrior Online and its pcgamer free color dyes are any indication)
 
Stupid special snowflakes, embarressing to be called a veteran player with the likes of your tosh	
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Wait what, you think this sword is a reward for veteran players? the *cupcake*are you smoking? you didnt even have to PLAY THE DAMN GAME!? to be ellegible to get it
 
I played since beta, didnt get the sword because i wasnt in the right place at the right time for the limited time code within limited time nonsense, now everyone has another opportunity, for however long this promotion from pcgamer lasts (usually a few months if Mechwarrior Online and its pcgamer free color dyes are any indication)
 
Stupid special snowflakes, embarressing to be called a veteran player with the likes of your tosh
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			Amusing that people think this is anything to do with an opportunity to provide an item not many people had a chance to obtain. As if it's some kind of change of heart from over a year ago. You guys are funny. This is as black and white as gain free advertisement from a website by providing a rare once limited time skin. All to stop the steady decline in population.It's the same as printing a card that was originally rare purely because it was said to be limited and not printed past that point. Purely because people stopped buying the card game. Whether they  verbally stated that or not. The term "limited" generally implies it. It's a common assumption.
			
				
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The veteran player reward that was mentioned was the Ikthian Crawler mount.  Neth asked Lemu if he'd be OK if they made that exclusive veteran award available to all, in the whole debate of whether exclusive items should be made available to all players at later times, even the one given to veteran players that supported the game from the beginning.
 
http://www.wildstar-online.com/uk/news/2015-05-28-player-appreciation-rewards/
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I got the skin a year ago from voting. It doesn't bother me one bit that other folk will be able to have it now, but I've never been one to slather all over exclusivity in video game loot. xD
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			I got the skin a year ago from voting. It doesn't bother me one bit that other folk will be able to have it now, but I've never been one to slather all over exclusivity in video game loot. xD	
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No, before that, read what KurganNazzir wrote, he (Netherokk) started talking about exclusive before the crawler mount was brought up
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			I kind of take offense to that... I was here during beta, bought copies of the game for my friends who were hesitant to try it because there was no trial and it was like 60/80$... like I said, I had like a hardcore 20+ hour long gaming sesh and conked out for like 13 hours, woke up and the event had came and passed without me knowing anything about it... meanwhile some randoms who got beta keys got it who didn't even play warrior... so don't act like the players who have it DESERVE it. many of us DESERVE it but didn't get it. I came to terms with probably never getting the thing, but I had to make sure I reminded you that YOU ARENT SOME MAGICAL ORGAN DONAR who saved wildstar and you deserved your hard earned prize... you were at the right place at the right time, and MANY people who were actively playing the crap out of the game didn't get it.	
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And I was responding to you saying "Wait what, you think this sword is a reward for veteran players?"  I know "exclusive" was used before that, but "veteran player" was never used in reference to the sword.
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It always annoys me is when people say the skin is gonna be useless because everyone's going to have it:
 
1) Not everyone is going to be getting it
2) You've already gotten your reward, 'early acess' to this awesome skin. I mean you've had it like a year, it's been a 'prestige' item for ages now
3) In a few months it'll be prestigious again anyhow
4) It's still an awesome-looking skin you can use, more people having access to it doesn't take away from that
5) Many people complaining probably haven't even used this skin for months, if ever	
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Exclusivity for exclusivity's sake isn't really very good. I like exclusive items, but in this case, there wasn't anything special about the way you obtain it - it wasn't even a competition where only a few won, it was just a case of going to the website and voting.
 
If they had given away the Data Drifter or something like that, which actually requires some sort of effort in game, I'd understand the annoyance, but this is silly. You didn't pay any money for this, and there wasn't a huge amount of effort involved.
 
Sure, another different skin or thing to giveaway would have been nice, especially for those of us, like myself, who managed to get this before, but it's really not a big deal - certainly not as earth shattering as some of you are making it out to be. I can understand how it might feel painful that you're no longer a special snowflake with that unique item that thousands of others got along side you before, but personally I don't mind. Why? It's more publicity for the game - I stopped playing a year ago and came back with F2P, but from what I see the game is doing a lot worse than it was 8 weeks ago, so I'm not sure that going Free-to-Play was the solution to their problems really - well, maybe it will be in time, I suspect the larger issue with going F2P was the awful server issues for weeks after the launch, but this is beside the point. More publicity for the game is good, and if it gets new people in, or some others to maybe come back, that's a good thing. So as far as I'm concerned - give it away, give away my highwayman costume if it helps, I don't care, because none of those exclusive items mean anything at all if the game gets shut down in a year because there isn't enough people playing it.	
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It's about principles here. (I don't have the sword)
They are crossing lines they shouldn't cross. They could've brought out the other weapons instead.. 
What about the highwayman costume? Only a matter of time that they will bring it up in the store as a big !@#$%^ you to our beta testers.
I'm just done with carbine making stupid decisions like this. As a PvPer I've put up with alot of bullsshh from them and I just can't believe they are taking the *cupcake* on their community over and over again. I just can't put up with it much anymore..
 
I'm not the best with trying to explain how I feel written out, so hope I make any sense..
			
				
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I'm with Tuff about this one.
 
Carbine clearly stated when they made these things, that they were exclusive.
This is the second time in less then three months that they are crawling back on their "exclusive" promise.
But like Tuff, I'm not surprised as they've smelled the money from the Cash Shop and are basically throwing everything they stood for overboard now to squeeze out that buck from players before closing shop next year due insufficient profit according NCSoft standards.
 
 
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What about the highwayman costume? Only a matter of time that they will bring it up in the store as a big !@#$%^ you to our beta testers.
I'm just done with carbine making stupid decisions like this. As a PvPer I've put up with alot of bullsshh from them and I just can't believe they are taking the *cupcake* on their community.
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			Since the gave away the Hoverboard and Costume from the Preorder im not suprised and im ok with it somehow.	
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they were exclusive when introduced. now you can buy them (later).
I may sound like a hypocrite but i dont care about his skin in the shop but i would care if raid items can be bought in there.
so i see what the fuss is about even tho i dont care about this topic... at all.
But we (raiders + casuals) should unite in this matter to prevent future abuse of the ingame shop.
There have to be elements in the game to work for that cant be bought in the shop. I dont know where to draw the line but if they say skin x or item y will not be in the shop and a few month later they are... this leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.	
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It's about principles here. (I don't have the sword)
They are crossing lines they shouldn't cross. They could've brought out the other weapons instead..
 
What about the highwayman costume? Only a matter of time that they will bring it up in the store as a big !@#$%^ you to our beta testers.
I'm just done with carbine making stupid decisions like this. As a PvPer I've put up with alot of bullsshh from them and I just can't believe they are taking the *cupcake* on their community over and over again. I just can't put up with it much anymore..
 
I'm not the best with trying to explain how I feel written out, so hope I make any sense..
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I feel the same way.
 
They don't care about pvp, they've wrecked season 2 already... unless they fix the rating floor pretty soon I'm going to end up either going pve (yeah i know..) or just giving up with wildstar.
 
There's only so much I can take of stupid decisions 24/7, it's like watching a train wreck at the moment.
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			Perhaps I'm missing something but how do you get it? The link redirected me to sign up for some letter, but so far it didn't give me anything and I can't find any giveaway on website?	
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			If it's like the previous campaign, they will be collecting all emails entered during the sign-up period and sent out the codes afterwards when it's closed.	
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			This makes me lose trust in Carbine. What other "exclusive" items will they start giving away? The highwayman costume beta reward? The loyalty mount?	
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It's a cosmetic item! it has zero item benefits and makes zero impact on the game.
I'm just glad they didn't put it in the shop, when a few of us who were on when it came up and were lucky enough to type in our email addresses for it. Oh boo hoo. I'm glad people have access to it now.	
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I don't think people are annoyed because it's a cosmetic, but more the company is backing down on things they'd promised their player base. They said "This will be an exclusive offer, we wont be giving this away again" same thing for the loyalty mount, if they came out next week with an exact copy of the ikthian crawler (and not just a reskin) and gave it away as though it's something brand new and shiny and hoped the older players wouldn't remember? Yeah that wouldn't go down well.
 
It might not have any benefit in game, but you don't make promises to your fans and then go back on them over and over and over again.
They might have their freebots coming in to try the game now, but if the vets who are the ones willing to spend money on the game to help CARBINE and the game leave, what will carbine have? Hardly anything, and then this fantastic game will be in the grave.
 
So yeah, it's just a cosmetic, but it's also a little bit of a slap in the face for the people who had faith in carbine's promises.... well right now, I don't have much hope for them fixing the pvp I enjoy to play, or the promises to release things at certain times, or the promises that they will fix issues asap or the promises that they're listening... 	
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It's a cosmetic item! it has zero item benefits and makes zero impact on the game.
I'm just glad they didn't put it in the shop, when a few of us who were on when it came up and were lucky enough to type in our email addresses for it. Oh boo hoo. I'm glad people have access to it now.
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I just want to chime in here with a couple of thoughts:
 
1. So what?
 
2. So what?
 
3. Get over yourselves.
 
4. So what?
 
*mic drop*	
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Yay new sword
 
Edit: Do they just send the code in an email.
 
SWORD!!!!!
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			 Carbine has already stated before that exclusive skins would eventually be once again available... so its no shocker here.. but it would have been nice to have the other skins that where part of the original voting to be available also.. not everyone plays a warrior.	
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Heck yeah.
 
As someone who has used this skin almost exclusively since I first got it, this doesn't bother me in the least.
 
Happy players means more money means longer shelf-life of the game. There is no "lose" here. I am sure 90% of the people who "earned" this the first time have long since gone away, likely never to return. This wasn't some special in-game event, it was a freaking three-day "visit this website to win" giveaway meant to drum up hype.
 
Now, that said, I would very very much like to see the other three "losing options" make it into game. As was mentioned, we voted based on concept art, so the others might never have been animated. If they haven't been, then get to work animators!
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Know who I feel bad for? Folks that got the sword via ebay...oh boy...
I think one of the codes went for something like 180 USD hehe....
 
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If it's like the previous campaign, they will be collecting all emails entered during the sign-up period and sent out the codes afterwards when it's closed.
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Yes, they "were" exclusive, and Carbine specifically said so here: http://www.wildstar-online.com/uk/news/wildstar-teams-with-pc-gamer-for-weapon-content/
 
They even stated:
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Know who I feel bad for? Folks that got the sword via ebay...oh boy...
I think one of the codes went for something like 180 USD hehe....
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Know who I feel bad for? Folks that got the sword via ebay...oh boy...
I think one of the codes went for something like 180 USD hehe....
 
Let's hope they don't botch it again randomly for some people. *ding ding* round 2!
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Well, Carbine has definitely reached the next level... of awesomeness!
 
These kind of limited "promotions" are what is rotting away every game. Pre-purchase bonuses, this or that magazine bonuses, spend-more-money bonuses, this or that game system bonuses... all that disgusting festering pus drippling stench piping-hot rot.
 
I'll never understand all that psychopathic "neener-neener I got and you not" that seems to plague these games. I guess I'm just a kinder person. They got something I got? Good for them! It's easier now to get something I got time ago when it was new? Good for them!
 
My "accomplishment" will never be diminished because of that.
 
I value those assets on their own merits, like art quality or appealing design, not accesory superfluous mindgames of "exclusivity".	
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Well, there is a whole 'nother word for people like that - and suffice to say, I don't feel the least bit sorry for anyone with more money than common sense.
 
NOTHING in a video game ... and I mean N-O-THING is worth dropping almost 200 bones on. Please let someone come in an admit that, so I can mock them mercilessly. :lol:
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The players of StarCitizen seem to disagree on that notion :P
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People don't seem to understand what the word "exclusive" actually means.
The sword is still exclusive... You just now include the people who opted in to a newsletter in this private circle containing only the elite of our society.
The filthy common trash of Nexus won't have access to your legendary costume item until they raise themselves to your level of dedication... Aka: Enter your email here.
 
Not that it matters anyway. Carbine do what they want with their game.
The RIP sword is their property and they could literally just give it to every single players just because they feel like it.
 
TL;DR
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Damn but some people whine like babes some times.
 
All you had to do was vote on something to get it the first time around. Nothing special was needed, you earned nothing and you achieved nothing.
 
The vast majority of folk in game don't give a rats left testicle what you have or when you got something. Get a damn grip of yourselves. Whining like tarts over pixels. I can understand people getting annoyed over lag and bugs, that ruins someones game time but this...
 
I get that kind of whining on Twitter, it's a hovel of halfwits I don't expect anything more than brain dead bleating on that website but the forums had been whinge free for a few days. This thread made a lot of free to play moan threads look good. At least a lot of those had legitimate complaints not "on noes, mah pixelated skin I did absolutely sod all to get in the first place is going to be used again".
 
I've got 4 kids, i'm used to whining but usually over something significant. You muppets are scraping the barrel of bitchy with this.	
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TL;DR
RIP
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I see what you did there.....hehehe
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It still shows the shift of focuss from carbine away from the subscribers towards the people who buy stuff in the cashgame shop.
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ya know...we seem to have these type of things happen every couple months or so. 
 
I'll just make one last post then I think I'm good:
The item is exclusive to PCgamer promotion. Carbine/NCsoft and PCgamer decided to hold said promotion a 2nd time and that seems fine to me. I would be furious if it was offered up in the cash shop as that actually goes against what was stated by Carbine that it would not be in the cash shop. IT still maintains a level of exclusiveness in that regard. You can read the initial promotion http://www.wildstar-online.com/uk/news/wildstar-teams-with-pc-gamer-for-weapon-content/and it doesn't read as it never being made available again. 
 
This is not like the pre-order/beta items and such that had blatant wording saying they'd never be available again which Carbine admitted to was a mistake on their part and they shouldn't have used that wording, but they did.
 
I don't see them as breaking their word on this personally, but actually abiding to it.
 
In the end though...
 
			
				
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			Wow, you guys suck. 	
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Wow, you guys suck. 
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Sign up for third party emails, eh?
 
No thanks, I'm good!	
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Are you just being sarcastic or you actually agree, I can't tell right now because I'm mad at this bunch of incompetent imbecils messing up almost everything all the time. Feel free to explain your responce to me.
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I have words for those fools, too.  :lol:
 
Heh. Nah. I guess if it makes you happy and your bills are paid and kids are fed, go nuts. It's your (wasted) money not mine! ;)
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Constructive, thoughtful and succinct.
 
10/10
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As if you are with your silly posts about how someone is wasting money on ingame items. Who are you to judge or tell someone what they can or cannot spent their money on? cupcake.
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From the original announcement in April, 2014: "Every person who votes will receive some exclusive in-game items!" It doesn't say everyone who registers with PCGamer -- everyone who votes.
 
I don't care about the skin; I don't play a warrior. I do care about the integrity of the company. After following Carbine for several years now, I've pretty much lost trust.	
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Constructive, thoughtful and succinct.
 
10/10
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Are you intentionally spamming this thread in order to bury useful discussion? Or is it just an accidental result? Seriously, you've made your point. Let others do the same.
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			That skin was unique, this renders it no longer unique. What is more valuable in this genre of game than unique stuff?	
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Cupcake yourself, cupcake. Cupcake cuppycake cake. Cup. Cake.
 
Cake.
 
Cup.
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			Wow, this is still going on? Some people are mad, some people aren't. Exclusive didn't mean what you thought it meant. That does not make this some egregious example of how Carbine is the worst of all the bad things forever. Since no one is losing anything because more people are getting it, there's really nothing to argue about here, other than which folks really need to take a step back and get some perspective on the fact they're wasting their emotion on a costume sword and a metal monkey in a video game. Go, be happy. Be happy that other people get some happiness. Practice sharing.	
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That skin was unique, this renders it no longer unique. What is more valuable in this genre of game than unique stuff?
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Wow, this is still going on? Some people are mad, some people aren't. Exclusive didn't mean what you thought it meant. That does not make this some egregious example of how Carbine is the worst of all the bad things forever. Since no one is losing anything because more people are getting it, there's really nothing to argue about here, other than which folks really need to take a step back and get some perspective on the fact they're wasting their emotion on a costume sword and a metal monkey in a video game. Go, be happy. Be happy that other people get some happiness. Practice sharing.
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Just off topic though, your signature is HUGE...not sure if that's just my browser or something. Just thought I'd mention it
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Oh it's supposed to be like this. Fighting for proper pvp changes.
Sorry if it bothers you, blame carbine.
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Ashbrin-oh wait...
 
Just off topic though, your signature is HUGE...not sure if that's just my browser or something. Just thought I'd mention it
 
Anyway folks are allowed be upset and are valid in such, no need for bashing eachother for it. If it doesn't seem important or you're happy about this that's cool and if you're upset about it and lost trust, that's cool too. Different people value different things, but we're all Nexians here *opens up arms for hug*
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Wow that twitter feed is riddled with salty tears. It is hilarious that so many people placed a "snub" value on a virtual item that took no effort to obtain.
 
Carbine should just recolor the skin with this give out so the snowflakes will "hopefully" shut up. 	
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That skin was unique, this renders it no longer unique. What is more valuable in this genre of game than unique stuff?
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 Carbine has already stated before that exclusive skins would eventually be once again available... so its no shocker here.. but it would have been nice to have the other skins that where part of the original voting to be available also.. not everyone plays a warrior.
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So...is this only a Sword skin? I signed up for it (I think) but if it's just a sword...
 
As far as the whole "exclusive" thing goes...it was a "PC gamer exclusive", and still is, even if they re-release it again. I'm going to try to get it, but tbh I doubt it will be something that makes me change my outfit. I'll collect every piece of SWAG I can get, but my favorite items are probably going to be the ones I had to grind for. Personally, I hate it when SWAG bits like this are so rare that you never see them in game...or that you see them and you know there's no chance you can get it because it was some promo thing that happened over a year ago and never again.	
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			I want a source for that comment 'Carbine said that they will eventually bring back exclusive items' thing.I've followed the game for so long and I have never ever seen/read or heard from this.  	
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Wow that twitter feed is riddled with salty tears. It is hilarious that so many people placed a "snub" value on a virtual item that took no effort to obtain.
 
Carbine should just recolor the skin with this give out so the snowflakes will "hopefully" shut up. 
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I want a source for that comment 'Carbine said that they will eventually bring back exclusive items' thing.
I've followed the game for so long and I have never ever seen/read or heard from this. 
 
 
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They never said they wouldn't and they've said on numerous occasions they're opposed to spending art and coding time on "one time only" things. No I'm not looking it up for you, you have the same internet I do.
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They never said they wouldn't and they've said on numerous occasions they're opposed to spending art and coding time on "one time only" things. No I'm not looking it up for you, you have the same internet I do.
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They never said they wouldn't and they've said on numerous occasions they're opposed to spending art and coding time on "one time only" things. No I'm not looking it up for you, you have the same internet I do.
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I don't have the same Internet as you...
Mine is slower
And more censored.
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I'll repost something I found, since my edit got buried :P
 
It's about the Highwayman's/beta rewards and not specifically about the sword(anything I've found on these forums about the Peacemaker has been a slew of people selling codes, or not receiving their codes):
 
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/111236-highwaymans-outfit/?p=1153726
			
				
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I'll repost something I found, since my edit got buried :P
 
It's about the Highwayman's/beta rewards and not specifically about the sword(anything I've found on these forums about the Peacemaker has been a slew of people selling codes):
 
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/111236-highwaymans-outfit/?p=1153726
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Someones been looking at rule34pheal Chua, havent you ;)
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No....I just live in Germany and have Deutsche Telekom...
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Well if someone states it then they should provide a source imo. And no I'm not gonna waste my time on looking for it, I don't believe they said it, I'm not gonna waste more time on proving they did this and that, Been there done that. 
 
Source ploxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. 
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Your username annoys me :(
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Your username annoys me :(
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I was going to locate it for you to be nice but people that use plox annoy me. Like typing please is some irrational expectation, who ever started that trend should perish.
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omg gurl,
I c wt u did thar.
amg, cuz you so real 4 sho
plx stai l33t, kay?
 
 
 
(my brain hurts now....)
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Shots fired..
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			But off-topic is the best topic, i thought we had something going here :<	
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Ahahah, I was actually trying to speak like that I just can't! <3 The ploxxx was as far as I could get :P
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But off-topic is the best topic, i thought we had something going here :<
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Are you intentionally spamming this thread in order to bury useful discussion? Or is it just an accidental result? Seriously, you've made your point. Let others do the same.
 
 :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Punk't.
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Are you intentionally spamming this thread in order to bury useful discussion? Or is it just an accidental result? Seriously, you've made your point. Let others do the same.
 
 :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Punk't.	
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But off-topic is the best topic, i thought we had something going here :<
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Are you intentionally spamming this thread in order to bury useful discussion? Or is it just an accidental result? Seriously, you've made your point. Let others do the same.
 
 :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Punk't.
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I mean...it's a cool little trinket, but I don't think it's "6 pages worth of poo-flinging" cool.
 
Also, in a twist of bitter irony...making a forum thread to complain about it has probably made it so that many more people are going to get it now. I'm getting it and I don't even think I currently have a toon who can actually use it... thank goodness I found this forum post or I would have never known!
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I could defute that nothing really useful was discussed, but ahahahaha
 
 
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I don't care if more people get it at this point as it's unpreventable anyway. It was just to start a discusion about how Carbine handles these 'exclusive' things. :)
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Oh sweetie, It just wasn't meant to be this way. </3
 
 
 
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Of course nothing useful was going to be discussed. What? Did people think Crabine was just going to call PCGamer and tell them to kibosh the offer because of Forum Nerd-Rage?
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I think this is below nerd-rage.  It seems more like temper tantrum to me.  People, stop and think about this just one moment.  Your pleasure of having the object is based solely on being one of the few that have it, and not actually pleasure in the object or game itself, and that pleasure is now gone because more can have it.  
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I think this is below nerd-rage.  It seems more like temper tantrum to me.  People, stop and think about this just one moment.  Your pleasure of having the object is based solely on being one of the few that have it, and not actually pleasure in the object or game itself, and that pleasure is now gone because more can have it.  
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Well its not just a Carbine thing though, there have been other companies that had "exclusive" stuff that basically just got recolored and tossed into the game. I am at work atm so I don't have the time to look some of them up so don't ask for the source  :P
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But I don't even have it oO
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I think this is below nerd-rage.  It seems more like temper tantrum to me.  People, stop and think about this just one moment.  Your pleasure of having the object is based solely on being one of the few that have it, and not actually pleasure in the object or game itself, and that pleasure is now gone because more can have it.  
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The salty isnt as bad in this thread as it is on the twitter feed, please post this in that feed as I 100% agree.
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I think this is below nerd-rage.  It seems more like temper tantrum to me.  People, stop and think about this just one moment.  Your pleasure of having the object is based solely on being one of the few that have it, and not actually pleasure in the object or game itself, and that pleasure is now gone because more can have it.  
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And now you can :D
 
And Carbine, give us Chua Warriors!!! 
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And now you can :D
 
And Carbine, give us Chua Warriors!!! 
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but but animations are not ready.....
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*sigh*  And of course if they spent less time on twitter, having pizza parties, and nerf battles, they would be done
 
 :P
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Where do i apply for crabine?
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getting linked all over reddit
 
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/38104-what-itemstitlesstuff-is-no-longer-obtainable/&do=findComment&comment=369461	
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Pffffttt Tex, don't you know rocks make too much noise???  They can't be stealthers.  Geesh, gamers these days don't know anything.   :P  (reminds of the WoW argument of why Taurens can't be Rogues LOL)
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Pffffttt Tex, don't you know rocks make too much noise???  They can't be stealthers.  Geesh, gamers these days don't know anything.   :P  (reminds of the WoW argument of why Taurens can't be Rogues LOL)
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What about the highwayman costume? Only a matter of time that they will bring it up in the store as a big !@#$%^ you to our beta testers.
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I have all the early exclusive stuff, and while, yeah, it is kinda fun to have exclusive things, I'm all for letting new players have these fun items. My reasons, well, for one, I don't get my fun from denying others the same fun. I like the highwayman costume because it looks good, not because other players can't have it. Second, the game was relaunched, so why not relaunch the giveaways too? Third, how many of us are left from the beginning? Why let these assets go to waste on just a few players? And lastly, this is another limited giveaway, isn't it? So, some players are still not going to get these items. Any players who come to WS after this second giveaway will have to wait until they're given out again, if they ever are. So, those of you who like these items because other people don't have them will still have that, just a little less. 
 
I met a nice, new player last week. They came to my house and loved my coconut monkey and wanted to get one too. I had to tell them it was a limited time thing from a year ago and I'd give them one if I could, but couldn't. I'll be telling them about this new giveaway when I log in today, and that makes me happy. 	
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I'd rather they fix their stupid game and keep the players they attracted instead of doing this stupid crap, attracting more players and making them feel disappointed.
 
I honestly just was frowning at this because I wanted a reason to be salty and have a rant. I'm happy they're offering the sword, I didn't get it the first time round, but yeah... Fix the game before you do it.	
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I'd rather they fix their stupid game and keep the players they attracted instead of doing this stupid crap, attracting more players and making them feel disappointed.
 
I honestly just was frowning at this because I wanted a reason to be salty and have a rant. I'm happy they're offering the sword, I didn't get it the first time round, but yeah... Fix the game before you do it.
 
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This man have a point. Give him tea and cookies and kitties.
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I'd rather they fix their stupid game and keep the players they attracted instead of doing this stupid crap, attracting more players and making them feel disappointed.
 
I honestly just was frowning at this because I wanted a reason to be salty and have a rant. I'm happy they're offering the sword, I didn't get it the first time round, but yeah... Fix the game before you do it.
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"Reasons to be salty": complaints like these drive me mad.
 
Re-releasing an already existing weapon skin does not take away from the team dedicated to fixing bugs or game balance. Those jobs simply do not mix. I can basically assure you that they are actively working on fixing the game and that this had absolutely no affect on their ability to do so, because that is literally what the company pays those people to do. They did not "stop" fixing the game to work on this, and they aren't sitting around twiddling their thumbs, because if they were, they wouldn't have their jobs in the first place.
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Tell that to the pvp side and you'll hear that their "active fixing" of the game is rather lacking.. I mean, its been 3 weeks into a season where we have broken rating floors, hardly much time required nor downtime to apply it, yet we'll have to wait for another 2-4 weeks for that. That to me is a job badly done.
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"Reasons to be salty": complaints like these drive me mad.
 
Re-releasing an already existing weapon skin does not take away from the team dedicated to fixing bugs or game balance. Those jobs simply do not mix. I can basically assure you that they are actively working on fixing the game and that this had absolutely no affect on their ability to do so, because that is literally what the company pays those people to do. They did not "stop" fixing the game to work on this, and they aren't sitting around twiddling their thumbs, because if they were, they wouldn't have their jobs in the first place.
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			Even though I got mine through code I'm all for Carbine making the fancy pants jacket available every once in a while, because while it's cool to have an exclusive item I didn't do anything in the game to obtain it, so I'd prefer it being rare rather than permanently unavailable. The chua pumera is an even better example, I didn't have time to play when the servers were down but I had an active sub so I still got it. I think it should be in the cash shop since it technically required a 1 month sub. The appreciation rewards was the same thing except more pricey so I think they should be made available again eventually as 12-month and 3-month signature plan incentives. The way some of you take this you'd think they were putting the data drifter or top season 2 weapon skins in the cash shop. They're making an unavailable item that simply required you to sign up and vote available again, for a limited time. It's like the 2 mounts that was up for just a few days recently and I think this is the right way to do exclusive items that aren't related to difficult PvE/PvP achievements.	
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At least I'm being honest instead of crying about the fricken skin.
 
I have actually defended this game for a long time, almost to the point of fangirlism. But this is just stupid, there are bugs that mean I can't play the game properly at all and we have already waited over a month for a simple fix. Stop making excuses for them, it's just  plain bad job. Sure, they don't have the same team for promotions, but still, why show off this "epic offer" for a broken game?
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I wasn't making an excuse, I was telling you that the logic behind what you were saying was nonsense. Don't mistake me correcting your mistake for defending theirs. You said that they should fix the game "instead" of this, implying that one somehow hindered the progress of the other, which is obviously not true.
 
And I don't think I should have to explain this, but Carbine- and NCSoft- are companies. Like, they are a group of multiple people who are given paychecks to do jobs. You seem to recognize that the sort of people who would work on promotions and re-releasing a weapon skin are not the same people who would fix bugs or balance issues, so think logically: why would they stop what they're doing and sit around twiddling their thumbs until the people who do fix bugs and balance issues do their jobs? That wouldn't make any sense-- not to them, not to the people fixing bugs, and definitely not to the people paying them. No, they are still going to do their jobs, too.
 
Regardless of how frustrated you are about any given thing happening with this game, other aspects of the game will still continue to be worked on, because it would be stupid for them not to. And they don't affect the things you are frustrated with, so getting even more frustrated because of that is totally pointless.
 
Complain about bugs in threads meant to complain about bugs. This is different.
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mmmkay.... fine....  I'll suck it up and deal but now I want those toaster paddles.
 
*holds up santa stocking and giggles it in front of dev's face*	
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mmmkay.... fine....  I'll suck it up and deal but now I want those toaster paddles.
 
*holds up santa stocking and giggles it in front of dev's face*
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			That skin was exclusive to WildStar. This is WildStar Reloaded. It's a new game.	
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Why does every mistake become an in-fight of us versus them on the forums? 
 
I'm a special snowflake. No doubt. I also dislike... Eh hmm hate warrior and whoever voted for a sword can burn in... Something something... I'm still bitter!!! 
 
I don't begrudge people who get it now. It doesn't devalue the item for me. See the "for me" part? People have expressed their distaste and personal feelings and others have come in trying to tell them basically "how you feel is incorrect, I'm right and this item should not be devalued for you because...". It's crazy. 
 
A lot of time limited and pre-order exclusive items are distasteful to me on principle and companies have a special place reserved for these practices. 
 
So we have established I don't give a shit if an item is exclusive, it doesn't diminish my enjoyment. Furthermore, I really don't give a shit about a sword skin. And I'm a special snowflake. 
 
I think this move is distasteful and carbine is shameless. Don't say one thing now and then another months down the road. You said exclusive than you should go to your grave with that still the law of the land. No take backs. Stand by your word. The end. 
 
I already didn't have trust so I'm not surprised. 
 
Glad for those who wanted it and didn't have it. 
Still disgusted with carbine. 
 
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I think the point was why promote the game at this point when there are so many unfixed problems in the game. Meaning that it could be counterproductive if it leads to more new players coming to the game only for those new players to discover the bugs in the game and leave again for that reason. That it's no problem with having the promotion, just that having a promotion when the game is working properly would perhaps be a better option. 
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Why does every mistake become an in-fight of us versus them on the forums?
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Exclusive doesn't necessarily mean it will never be available again.  It's a PCGamer promotional item, and they are offering it again.  It seems to me this is a way for them to drum up more traffic for themselves, and not just a decision made by Carbine.
 
Plus, with the sense of humor in Wildstar, did we never stop to consider they were using "exclusive" sarcastically to poke fun at the whole idea? :P	
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You said exclusive than you should go to your grave with that still the law of the land. No take backs. Stand by your word. The end.
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Seems like most peoples' arguments have been that their definition of "exclusive" varies from yours and the OP's, so it wouldn't really be "the end", per se.
 
Personally, I think "no take backs, stand by your word" isn't the Noble Stance of Gentlemen and Gentlewomen™ that other people seem to think it is. It sounds more like the Ramblings of a Crotchety Stubborn Old Country Singer™. People can say things in the past that are dumb, and then time can pass, and things can change, and the things they said back then can become extra dumb. If it makes sense for them to go back on their word, then why not go back on their word? Because "well, if they go back on their word about THAT, maybe they'll go back on their word about OTHER things"? That sounds silly. It's silly, because they're going back on their word about something that was a bad decision, and because that's a slippery slope argument.
 
Also, they already went back on their word about the game never becoming free-to-play, so if anybody here is disgusted by companies going back on their word, those people should have abandoned ship a long time ago (or, if they're a post-F2P player, they shouldn't have boarded the ship in the first place.) WildStar's already gone through "the biggest take-back in the game's history."
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My response: that's just like your opinion, man.
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Because even if the game has problems, it is still running, and-- again-- they are companies, and the point is for them to make money. Not watch money quietly burn up in server costs (and in the checks they send their employees, who-- again-- can't just sit around and twiddle their thumbs.) So when a company says "hey guys, work with us on this promotion", they say "okay", because their options are either "those employees do less and we make less money" or "those employees do the jobs we pay them for and we make money."
 
The option you propose only sounds "better" to you because it is an option specifically designed to spare your feelings. Like, I know what Sylqt's point was, but everything I said still applies. It's still not logical. It doesn't matter how frustrated you are about aspects of the game, the game-- and the lives of the people working on the game-- still have to go on.
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The game absolutely does NOT have to go on, if you know NCSofts history, you know this. Making the presumption that it's going to stick around forever is extremely dangerous.
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The game absolutely does NOT have to go on, if you know NCSofts history, you know this. Making the presumption that it's going to stick around forever is extremely dangerous.
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Honestly it would of been nice just to have another one of the 4 weapon ideas (I want my damn toaster resonators) brought to life, Carbine are just trying to get more people into the game and this is costs them 0 development resources.
 
Also I never liked the peacemaker skin, it's emissive effect is too overpowering. 	
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This thread is taking hilarious detours now.....
and all that for opinions.	
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Surprisingly, sanity actual came through on a topic like this. 
 
There is one point of contention that I want to address, unrelated to the PCGamer exclusive items but it still came up in this topic.  Namely, the exclusivity of beta rewards.
 
This will involve a bit of a dive into history, but here we go.
November 13, 2013 - Information about CBT3 beta rewards, the flux hoverboard and the highwayman costume set, is leaked.	Shortly after November 13, 2013 - CRB_Scooter and CRB_Gaffer post, clarifying that these items will not be exclusive to the beta.	April 29, 2014 - Youmukon posts,  again confirming that items thought to be beta exclusive (flux hoverboard, highwayman set, stress test title) would be available again later.	May 8, 2014 - This is where things possibly get confusing.  This post has a screengrab of the Open Beta advertisement page, claiming that the highwayman costume will never be available again.	August 29, 2014 - Continuing Youmukon's streak of posting on the 29th day of the month, this post was linked earlier and is, as far as I know, the last word spoken by Carbine on the issue.  That last word being that the highwayman costume isn't beta exclusive.
So all of you that are holding on to the highwayman costume as the last bastion of exclusivity, be prepared to be disappointed because it never was intended to be that.  Or maybe was so, but very briefly.	
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This thread is taking hilarious detours now.....
and all that for opinions.
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You've been to a forum before, right?
 
Also, "white text on a white background would make a great change to the forums" is an opinion, too. We'll file that under "bad opinions", which is where certain other opinions in this thread can be found.
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You know, I've been biting my tongue all day today, but I feel this is needlessly disrespectful.
 
I was you one year ago. I stood up to the nasty people with "bad opinions" (trust me, go look in my post history) because carbine employees have lives, they have to make money because they are a company etc. I made all those arguments time and time again, I kept fighting for the game I love. Now it's great that you've joined us in f2p and you love the game, plus have found the magic that kept a lot of us playing all the way through p2p, I love seeing someone passionate about this game, but there's something you've missed which is an entire year of MASSIVE PR screw ups. Their devs seem to be dwindling with more and more seemingly leaving every day, populations are deflating and hemorrhaging already (although winter releases of games did not help).
 
They won't continue to make money if they keep promoting a broken game with the promise of an epic experience. Word of mouth travels quickly, the game will get a rep as "the hardcore game that failed play to pay, and is even more broken in f2p loool" and any new players will slowly dry up. Retention is already low as it is. Couldn't they release fixes to things that NEED DESPERATELY fixing before promoting the game? That isn't a bad opinion, that's common sense. i know if this was me approaching wildstar as a potential new mmo, the bugs and wonkyness of the game would have put me off by now, regardless of the beauty of the graphics, lore, playstyle, combat system. And that's the thing it IS doing right now.
 
A bit of tact and actually watching your player base and then releasing promotions at the opportune moment goes a long way. I'm so sick of watching carbine fumble along making seemingly stupid decisions, I want to carry on loving them but right now I'm too jaded to. Also, pissing off your existing consumer base isn't useful either.
And let me also say this here so it isn't buried in the pvp forumt: Casual pvpers could make a huge part of the player base, pvpers are easy to please, don't ask for a lot of content except balance fixes (except the major whiners and top arena players :P) and are likely to stick around if they like the playstyle PLUS buy stuff from the store if they are sticking around. This was a really badly timed promotion with the state of pvp right now.
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Couldn't they release fixes to things that NEED DESPERATELY fixing before promoting the game?
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They won't continue to make money if they keep promoting a broken game with the promise of an epic experience.
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The game is not broken.
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			Okay, good talk! :D I'm happily chugging along attending raid nights, doing PvP, working on housing, and participating in far too much roleplay. Also enjoying a wonderful guild. So... game is far from broken for me.	
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