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yes, the title is a jack johnson song.
 
anyhow....after reading some of the State of the Game update comments..it made me wonder:
 
how many people are still logging in?
 
im over here at work every day, constantly checking the update page. then i head over to general discussion and pvp forums, and notice there are very few new threads.  i would love to play the game and enjoy myself, but i have to pull my own teeth in order to get a group to do finish attunement. guild is dead, people quit pug dungeons after first boss. zzzz.... who is still playing?
 
 
#hardcore - Stephen Frost
 
 	
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I know right, I had a long break from wildstar (because of work) but just recently I decided to re start, and theres no one around and no one to play with :(
I hope people come back soon.	
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			Recently went to GW2 because of how dead the game is in its current state. Not to happy with the early progression of this game but the game itself is awesome. The way it has been managed and the time it has taken to get things in order is what has me playing other games. Will check back in eventually..	
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			I have to say, this is the first time I have ever seen Jack Johnson quoted on the internet.  I'm ..... not quite sure what to think....	
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yes, the title is a jack johnson song.
 
anyhow....after reading some of the State of the Game update comments..it made me wonder:
 
how many people are still logging in?
 
im over here at work every day, constantly checking the update page. then i head over to general discussion and pvp forums, and notice there are very few new threads.  i would love to play the game and enjoy myself, but i have to pull my own teeth in order to get a group to do finish attunement. guild is dead, people quit pug dungeons after first boss. zzzz.... who is still playing?
 
 
#hardcore - Stephen Frost
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People are still playing (Evindra's got quite a few people running around at all hours).  Few people talk on the forums because it's not really fun.  I mean, if you in any way like the game, the forum is just about the bleakest part of your day outside the coffee thread.
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			i love the game! dont get me wrong, i completely enjoy the game and thats why i obsessively check this for updates. i just like to play with people :( run dungeons and get phat lootz...just very difficult at the moment. 	
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			I've become a raid logger, only log for raids nowadays. Don't feel like it otherwise, there is nothing to do that i find worth doing. PvP is a joke, hunting for achievements feel's wierd since it feels this game is dyin. I dunno, i am disheartened since i really do love this game :(	
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yes, the title is a jack johnson song.
 
anyhow....after reading some of the State of the Game update comments..it made me wonder:
 
how many people are still logging in?
 
im over here at work every day, constantly checking the update page. then i head over to general discussion and pvp forums, and notice there are very few new threads.  i would love to play the game and enjoy myself, but i have to pull my own teeth in order to get a group to do finish attunement. guild is dead, people quit pug dungeons after first boss. zzzz.... who is still playing?
 
 
#hardcore - Stephen Frost
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			I'm on Hazak, so we seem alright :)I log in daily (even though I'm mostly out of things to do), most people in my guild (that also get sent to my guild by other guilds) are levelers. There are less people leveling up from scratch right now, so being in a guild with people doing the same is helpful. About attunements - we finally have enough level 50s o start running adventures (and later dungeons), that part seems to be going alright. World bosses - I'm in a few circles (including Shinies and Shennanigans, the circle for small guilds), so if any one in any of the guilds in the circle see a world boss, they tend to inform others in the circle and they in turn inform their guilds. 	
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			Me and my bf just resubbed and we got another couple to buy the game with us.We are really enjoying ourselves :)! (playing on Hazzak Exile)	
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			Chua logging in daily, and still not find enough time to do everything wanting to do...	
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Chua logging in daily, and still not find enough time to do everything wanting to do...
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Oli! <3
 
Chua plays at a slower rate. perhaps due to over-thinking everything due to large cortex.
 
I have devoured all the content and have nothing to do except raid at this point. I feel like carbine lobbed a tree trunk at my head with the news that I have to wait till some week in November for an update. :(
 
Other than that, I am content with quarterly update so long as they remain that - quarterly. I think carbine should not drag it any longer than that as it becomes very unfair to their subscribers then. At least in the games' current state of endgame content.
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I've become a raid logger, only log for raids nowadays. Don't feel like it otherwise, there is nothing to do that i find worth doing. PvP is a joke, hunting for achievements feel's wierd since it feels this game is dyin. I dunno, i am disheartened since i really do love this game :(
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What mean "slower rate"?
Chua busy raiding, crafting, roleplaying, dungeon crawling.
Chua not playing slow.....
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I agree that there's hardly any content to do right now aside from raiding. 
Which is all well and good, but I've got nothing to do when I'm waiting for my raid team to come online.
I mean yea roleplaying is great, but since my surgery my thinking process has been muddled. :(	
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I agree that there's hardly any content to do right now aside from raiding. 
Which is all well and good, but I've got nothing to do when I'm waiting for my raid team to come online.
I mean yea roleplaying is great, but since my surgery my thinking process has been muddled. :(
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Can certain people wake up and think critically for a moment? I did a few google searches. I simply asked google a question.
 
Is <game=title> dying?
 
Apparently, any title you type in is dying. Wow has apparenly been dying since 2008. Theres 155 000 hits on bnet about this topic alone. But the math doesn't really add up, does it.
 
The game is definately not dying. It has the best questing, gameplay and dungeons/raiding. And, still theres content and bugfixes happening right now. Every day, the game bugs are being worked on. The creative juices are flowing. The content is being created and tweaked. The devs read the comments, so make it constructive.
 
 	
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Yes game is dying, ..from ur side.
People are just "loving the game" but not subscribing and playing, I really dont get it.
What it looks to me, there would be a lot of ppl if all the "im waiting for more ppl to come back" would actually be playing.
 
Stop waiting and start playing!	
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I went to Archeage personally.  I rather lost faith in Wildstar after mucking about during a recent "Come back to Final Fantasy XIV" week they were running in august when I literally saw more people in twenty minutes logging in to that game than I saw in a whole month playing Wildstar.   
 
The game's just no fun if you haven't a crew you like and want to run with.  Hopefully Megasevers and Drop 3 will broaden my options, but until then I'll be elsewhere. 	
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 Though Im still subbed and not playing much currently... I am very happy with wherethis game took me and it offered me something no other mmo has ever offered... It systematically cured me of my gaming addiction, and have enrolled in online courses to further my interest in learning.
 
But on a side note Ive gotten to the point now where it doesnt really matter what drop 3 has and Im hoping that the halloween event stuff will be good since thats my favorite holiday...	
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People are still playing (Evindra's got quite a few people running around at all hours).  Few people talk on the forums because it's not really fun.  I mean, if you in any way like the game, the forum is just about the bleakest part of your day outside the coffee thread.
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sorry but i disagree with those of you saying the game has a large active population. since my first 50 is on stormtalon, i wanted a character on a pvp server. so i rerolled on pergo. theres no one leveling...at all. its saturday. i used to play wow from like 8 am to 6 pm on saturday when it first came out, and bc too....where is everyone? 
 
i love the game, im not saying there isnt things to do. theres just no one playing. the mega servers would be great to have soon... 	
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			Pretty sure at this point, the mega server is going to just be renaming stormtalon and force moving a handful of the remaining from envindra.	
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i love the game, im not saying there isnt things to do. theres just no one playing. the mega servers would be great to have now... 
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			dunno if megaservers would even fix anything at this point.all of the finder stuff is cross server and you get unknown queues pretty regularly even as a tank or healerforums are super dead because of trigger happy mods that will just shut down anything, even topics that actively have carbine staff participating get killed by moderators fairly quickly. Never seen a forum so overly moderated.Having to deal with olivar trolling the crap out of literally every single topic doesn't help much either. Those of my guild that haven't quit the game entirely have stopped using the official forums because of how much he ruins it	
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dunno if megaservers would even fix anything at this point.
all of the finder stuff is cross server and you get unknown queues pretty regularly even as a tank or healer
 
forums are super dead because of trigger happy mods that will just shut down anything, even topics that actively have carbine staff participating get killed by moderators fairly quickly. Never seen a forum so overly moderated.
 
Having to deal with olivar trolling the crap out of literally every single topic doesn't help much either. Those of my guild that haven't quit the game entirely have stopped using the official forums because of how much he ruins it
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The title at the point "Mega-Servers Live!" would be enough to get people logged in and queuing again so I may not have to wait 20-45 minutes to have fun in PvP at peak hours!
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sorry but i disagree with those of you saying the game has a large active population. since my first 50 is on stormtalon, i wanted a character on a pvp server. so i rerolled on pergo. theres no one leveling...at all. its saturday. i used to play wow from like 8 am to 6 pm on saturday when it first came out, and bc too....where is everyone? 
 
i love the game, im not saying there isnt things to do. theres just no one playing. the mega servers would be great to have soon... 
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Too bad that they can't connect NA with EU. Hazak really is quite alive :D
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dunno if megaservers would even fix anything at this point.
all of the finder stuff is cross server and you get unknown queues pretty regularly even as a tank or healer
 
forums are super dead because of trigger happy mods that will just shut down anything, even topics that actively have carbine staff participating get killed by moderators fairly quickly. Never seen a forum so overly moderated.
 
Having to deal with olivar trolling the crap out of literally every single topic doesn't help much either. Those of my guild that haven't quit the game entirely have stopped using the official forums because of how much he ruins it
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Just a suggestion for the next group of people that want to spend around 100 milion dollars and ten years making a game:  Get the server situation working even before you come up with a title!  So many games go through a boom bust cycle when they first go live.  If there was some way to greatly expand server size to avoid long ques during the first weeks, and then to shrink server size ( without mergers ) to keep the feeling of a robust population in the game, that would be great!
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Walk me through the logic of this statement, because I'm just not seeing it.
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Too bad that they can't connect NA with EU. Hazak really is quite alive :D
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I do check the forums now and then when I'm bored. I can tell how a game is doing based off passion of whines and how active the forum is (whines). Still here's my last attempt when I logged in:
 
Log in and look for group, no world bosses groups for 3 hours, Log off. 80 steps of attunement. Hardcore? This is pergo as well... Not logging in if I can't find a group for the content I'm up to.
 
but add in class balance, itemisation, dailies, rep grinds(that I can't find groups for also), 42 weeks of ep farming.	
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"How many people are still logging in?"
 
I am ... an altoholic.  I have plenty to do while I wait for mega servers. I also have future homes for my exile and dominion alts when mega servers happen.  Completely content right now with the pace of things. :)	
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"How many people are still logging in?"
 
I am ... an altoholic.  I have plenty to do while I wait for mega servers. I also have future homes for my exile and dominion alts when mega servers happen.  Completely content right now with the pace of things. :)
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Megaservers will have a big impact, I'm sure. Mainly just down to the effects on morale and perception.
 
Once people *know* there will be more people around, they will be more inclined to queue for things, they'll be more positive about doing Open World PvE content, they'll be more of that "buzz" around the main hubs like at Launch.
 
For PvP Queues specifically, I expect to see queue times significantly reduce with the game update drop as well. Especially for RBGs.
 
In the meantime, there are still folks playing and I imagine a lot of folk fall into the trap of "Oh I don't want to log in, because nobody is logging in". Which only leads things around in circles sadly.
 
Anybody struggling to do group OW content, definitely try and find a good Server circle to help organise that stuff. Now's a good time for everybody to get together and help one another out.	
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yes, the title is a jack johnson song.
 
anyhow....after reading some of the State of the Game update comments..it made me wonder:
 
how many people are still logging in?
 
im over here at work every day, constantly checking the update page. then i head over to general discussion and pvp forums, and notice there are very few new threads.  i would love to play the game and enjoy myself, but i have to pull my own teeth in order to get a group to do finish attunement. guild is dead, people quit pug dungeons after first boss. zzzz.... who is still playing?
 
 
#hardcore - Stephen Frost
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yes, the title is a jack johnson song.
 
anyhow....after reading some of the State of the Game update comments..it made me wonder:
 
how many people are still logging in?
 
im over here at work every day, constantly checking the update page. then i head over to general discussion and pvp forums, and notice there are very few new threads.  i would love to play the game and enjoy myself, but i have to pull my own teeth in order to get a group to do finish attunement. guild is dead, people quit pug dungeons after first boss. zzzz.... who is still playing?
 
 
#hardcore - Stephen Frost
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Forums are, at best 10% of the player base. The other 90%? They're ignoring you and playing the game.
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			I remain a fan of Wildstar but I have to admit that I am taking a break until the megaservers and new content arrive.  Once Megaservers hit I will start again and hopefully find an active guild to work through attunement with and move on to raiding.  Until then I am playing some other games in my huge Steam library and watching the game updates thread on these forums. :(	
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People are playing! I am too! A friend of mine who started initially was on a break due to bad video card, but now with a new one he logs on daily. I also log on daily, but don't play too much at the moment simply because someone gave me AC4 YAARRR. But I'm almost done with it, and back to Wildstar in full force - especially since sub is paid for forward with CREDD :))
 
Forums, well they can be fun....sometimes.... I mostly log onto forums when at work. Otherwise I don't even come close when I have access to the game.	
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You hope.  Any statistical guess without proof is still a guess.
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I'm still playing that's for sure!  The guild I belong too is still populated, we're at about 16 level 50's that play regularly and about another dozen or so sub-50 that play regularly and are just focused on playing for fun not getting to 50.
 
As for forums, I find you get two kinds of people on forums, people who want the social experience and are positive about the game.  And people who want to gripe and *cupcake* about the game as loudly as possible.  Unfortunately the later generally out numbers the former making the forums a place that you need to tread cautiously and read posts with a grain of salt.	
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In the meantime, there are still folks playing and I imagine a lot of folk fall into the trap of "Oh I don't want to log in, because nobody is logging in".
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Hey Limit - 
 
I've seen you around stormtalon, in r-12 and such I think.   If you are bored, come hang out with us at Grievance, we have a first group in GA and are looking for peeps for our second group.   School is back in so the late nights arent as populous but regular times there are always people running something, or pvping or crafting, etc.	
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			Ergo Pergo	
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			I dunno what other people are doing, but my guildies and I have been having fun :) I spent all Saturday running adventures and dungeons with newer guildies that are working on attunement. Sunday, we did some more group stuff in the morning, and in the evening we got to play on the 2nd floor in GA killing the 2 minibosses, those cupcaking dogs (we didn't even know about them! LOL) and making some early learning attempts on the prototypes. We are recruiting, so if you are loving the game and looking for a guild home, you should check us out! :)	
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My experience is my proof.
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			Haven't played the game in weeks, other than logging on to repair my plot. Just doesn't feel worthwhile, and I'm tired of waiting for very obvious and simple fixes to the game.	
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			I'm hating the queues now an hour queuing as Tank and DPS.  Granted it's off-peak time but damn.  I don't see why so many are quitting the game.  Wildstar is the awesome.	
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I think we all have to realize that personal experience is the weakest form of evidence, no matter what the topic.  As customers we don't have access to the data critical to to make a definitive conclusion to the health of the game.   We can all voice opinions, but they are just that and not fact.   I can understand that if you are in a guild still going strong it may seem the game is healthy or if you are a solo player you might have the opposite opinion.   I'm not sure what the actual numbers are but the game seems very dead to me.  But I honestly I can't state that as fact.
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I'll admit I'm one of the ones waiting out the Megaservers too just to see how things shake out...I don't always group/guild because of my schedule so having a healthy PUG population around is pretty key for me.  I keep telling myself I'll play on my day off (yes, singular) when I can dedicate time, Monsters, and a trucker buddy to advancing one of my characters, but then my PS4 blinks it's eye and reminds me I just spent money on another game that I need to push down to the .50/hr mark to make it worth buying.  Next thing I know, it's time to shut down and call it a night. 
 
Waiting, still paying sub..but wondering if I come back will I have the interest I had at the start....	
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Love the game, still subbed, play a few hours a day, and working on second 50 to get GA attuned. Guild is slow, no one really logging on terribly too often, but holding out for the mega servers.
 
Just wish they'd be releasing drop 3 earlier than freaking November....Nothing i can do with my gear until they actually release the rune changes or I finally get raiding...	
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My experience is my proof.
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70% of statistics are made up
5/3 people don't understand fractions and 87% of those don't understand percentages.	
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Im sort of working on my 7th fifty.
Yeah. 7.
2 Espers, 1 Engineer, 1 Stalker, 1 Medic, 1 spellslinger, and my new spell slinger.
 
I think it had to do with wanting both dominion and exile, and then not being sure if I liked the playstyle of 1 class more than the other, and then figuring out that the classes played predominantly differently at 50 then they did at 10, and then reading the patch notes on the PTR for the upcoming changes for different classes, and then realizing that I was so far behind the power curve in terms of attunement that I was a little disheartened, so then trying to pug my way through attunement which didn't end very well for me, and then finding a guild, only to have the guild die a horrible death, which then lead me to server transfer, except that was when I decided I wanted a dominion, and a chua, which then lead me to reroll my second esper.... which then lead me to find a guild, except they were raiding and didn't really want to do attunement stuff.... which then lead me to realize the only race I ever really wanted to play was Chua, which then lead me to desire a chua spellsplinger... because reasons I don't understand.
 
Throughout all of this, I figure I might actually finish attunement on one of these toons, eventually, and actually step foot into a raid, provided they don't freakin release a new class. (which I would totally play if they did because, holy crap I don't care what some of you say, I actually do love this game. Even if I just grind by myself.)
 
That being said....
 
Some days, it does feel a little light in the population.
Other days, it feels comfortably crowded....
 
Although, and this is odd....
On the dom side of the server I am on, they talk. A lot. And it feels.... I dunno. Like there are people everywhere.
On the exile side, not so much. At all.	
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Hey Limit - 
 
I've seen you around stormtalon, in r-12 and such I think.   If you are bored, come hang out with us at Grievance, we have a first group in GA and are looking for peeps for our second group.   School is back in so the late nights arent as populous but regular times there are always people running something, or pvping or crafting, etc.
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			I haven't logged in in about a week. I think I'm waiting for Megaservers. I'm still leveling (I'm at 41 so far) and I can't find anyone to help me kill the bounty board bosses (yay for alliteration :D). Hopefully we'll have more people to play with soon!	
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yes, the title is a jack johnson song.
 
anyhow....after reading some of the State of the Game update comments..it made me wonder:
 
how many people are still logging in?
 
im over here at work every day, constantly checking the update page. then i head over to general discussion and pvp forums, and notice there are very few new threads.  i would love to play the game and enjoy myself, but i have to pull my own teeth in order to get a group to do finish attunement. guild is dead, people quit pug dungeons after first boss. zzzz.... who is still playing?
 
 
#hardcore - Stephen Frost
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