100534-amp-points-and-ability-tier-points

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Has anyone actually seen these out of non-pvp bags, or world drops?  I've opened about 200 satchels, and our guild has probably 1000+ satchels opened, haven't seen one.  Asking in trade and zone chat, no one on our server has seen any drop from any source other than PvP bags.
 
Is it just our entire faction, or has anyone actually seen them as a world drop?
 
Jabbithole shows what we are experiencing as well.  Only source seems to be PvP bags.
 
http://www.jabbithole.com/search?q=AMP+power	
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As per comment in the PvP bag one (I have no other source):
 
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 Piggers wrote 4 days ago (in live)
According to a recent stream these were a 1 in 10 million world drop chance.  Since the recent patch that supposedly increased the drop rate by 100 times (this number mentioned in forum post) this should now be around a 1/100k world drop chance.
 
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			Its still broke. Have not heard of one person on any server that has received one from the open world drop table. 	
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			Friend of mine got an amp one from a boom box (while all I ever get is potions) - Haven't seen any elsewhere, sorry.	
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			I'm pretty sure someone got one on Pago a couple days ago while doing dailies. Dropped from a mob. People in guild chat were talking about it.	
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			I've heard of one person getting a single drop from crimson badlands but in a guild of a hundred a single drop for a single person over more than a week is making me think the whole "elder gems is an emergency backup" is still in a state of BS	
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Bump for science. Let carbine know our results so they can decide if it's in their game vision or not.
 
 
For the record I've opened over 100 scavenged satchels, killed maybe 3k~ mobs, nothing yet.	
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