123260-its-really-necessary-the-credit-card

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i know this isnt on the table to discuss just want to ventilate a little, im in a niche guild on a niche game and we try to give good impression for everybody about wildstar cause... well its awesome.the problem is with the new players, in latin america the credit card phenomenon isnt that widely spread as you can see, normally people tend to get theirs at age of 35, so most of players dont use them (we pay for all of our things with cold hard cash like neanderthals).
 
so the problem is that several of the guys i tried to lure into nexus buy their retail copy of the game, download the game and after that they put their codes and get ready to kick cupcakes* they encounter a barrier, they cant use their 30 day gametime that comes with the box cause they need to set up a suscription before. That means (almost all the times) they spend like 1 week looking for someone in their country to do that favor (as i said the credit card phenomenon isnt very spread and people dont trust anybody with their credit cards), so they end losing from one week to 15 days of gametime and well that isnt a very welcoming thing from a game that has a suscription model you know.In my case i dont even own a credit card but i joined nexus on day 2 of launching and that wasnt a requeriment needed on the moment,  i just entered right into nexus and well i think if you already bought retail version of the game that means you are really into it and are less likely to be a spammer.so if a conversation goes try to lure the theme, it will be better for the game and well with the 10 day trials the set up a suscription thing kinda lose its relevance.PD: and well for the months, we tend to pay with gametime cards bought with cash if i want to buy my game and my months with cash i should be able to without needing a credit card... i just think thatPD2: anyone know if you start a new account with a code of a retail box, and then buy code of a gametime card you still need to  set up a suscription with a credit card? i got that doubt writing this	
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Don't know if they're available where you live, but here in the US you can get a Visa/MC/Amex "Gift Cards" in a variety of denominations.  Some are refillable.  There's a one time activation charge (between 3 and 5 USD). 
 
I tend to use those for things I don't want tied to my main cards.  Historically, gaming companies are horrid with security so I never ever use my real cards with them.  The side benefit of using a general gift card over a game timecard is that if you don't like the game you still have the money to spend.	
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			there's also an option to pay with PayPal.	
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			I just bought my retal copy yesterday. when i used the code it gave a free 33 days without having to subscribe. I myself am tired of everything to do with credit cards. the suggestion about pre-paid credit cards is a good 1 and also the route i'll be taking.	
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B2P with DLCs is my favourite payment system.
 
unfortunately in MMOs this model tends to be associated with cash shops.
 
anyway, as sad as it is, subscription is too much of a barrier of entry for too many people. i am not convinced it is the right model for a game that wants to go "big".
Swtor and Eso were smart about it: subs for a year, while the game is in its "extended beta test called release", then move into a wider audience grabbing when it is ready.
 
I expect the same will happen with Wildstar.
no.doubt.about.it.
 
double dipping guys! paid beta, pre-release, backing up the game, whatever you call it! mmos first year is one that is expensive to play and unfinished.
 
lets not fool ourselves.	
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there's also an option to pay with PayPal.
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Not sure anyone really has any allusions about what they're getting into with an MMO in terms of it being an unfinished "extended beta called release." Not for nothing, but even in the single player console arena, with day one patches, disc locked content and continual patches and updates.. nobody really gets a complete, fully tested game at launch anymore.
 
 
That said, getting back on track with OP, I do agree that the available payment options should be made more visible at the time of purchase, as well as the subscription requirement. The wording on the back of the physical box states "30 days play included, to play more an additional fee is required in the form of a subscription"
 
Yes, I know.... every MMO requires a sub in order to get the free time; I've been doing it since EQ, but in -this- case the wording is a bit misleading and, in the case of OP's concerns, it can cause people to lose out on that time as they scramble for a payment method that they were unaware was required.	
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That said, getting back on track with OP, I do agree that the available payment options should be made more visible at the time of purchase, as well as the subscription requirement. The wording on the back of the physical box states "30 days play included, to play more an additional fee is required in the form of a subscription"
 
Yes, I know.... every MMO requires a sub in order to get the free time; I've been doing it since EQ, but in -this- case the wording is a bit misleading and, in the case of OP's concerns, it can cause people to lose out on that time as they scramble for a payment method that they were unaware was required.
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			You can also just activate the free trial on the account I believe, not sure if it limits accounts with the actual game attached in any way though but I know you can login using it at 50 if your account has lapsed. I might be forgetting something though, who knows.	
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You can also just activate the free trial on the account I believe, not sure if it limits accounts with the actual game attached in any way though but I know you can login using it at 50 if your account has lapsed. I might be forgetting something though, who knows.
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Oh that's a good point.  I wonder if you can buy the game with your free trial applied and bypass the credit card requirement.
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one of the guys already tried that, once you put the retail box code into your account wont let you enter the game until you set up a subscription even if you use the free trial days after that
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You could always try having them send in a support ticket to see if there are methods to bypass it possibly, I remember reading people say they didn't have to setup a card sometimes in the past.
 
It's hard to say since most of us have only had to go through the process once in the end.	
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You could always try having them send in a support ticket to see if there are methods to bypass it possibly, I remember reading people say they didn't have to setup a card sometimes in the past.
 
It's hard to say since most of us have only had to go through the process once in the end.
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			I know GameStop here in the USA has game time cards. 30 days and 60 days. I even have seen a digital download code available on the site so you don't have to go in store. I have no idea if you can use this instead of a credit card with a new user like you can with WoW. I remember never giving WoW my credit card at all from day one with a 60 day card. I hope you can with wildstar.	
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@Demonmanu
 
I'm using paypal and have no credit card associated to it.
Works just fine to be honest.	
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@Demonmanu
 
I'm using paypal and have no credit card associated to it.
Works just fine to be honest.
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			You dont have debit cards in your country ? Here in my country i can even order one on the internet for free and in 1 week just visit the bank to take my new card and problem solved :)	
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You dont have debit cards in your country ? Here in my country i can even order one on the internet for free and in 1 week just visit the bank to take my new card and problem solved :)
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			I second the "Get a game card" Yes... it sucks cuz they have to pay the $15 in advance to get their free 30 days, but you said yourself, the sub amount isn't a problem. This will avoid ever needing to enter a credit card number. Otherwise, the only other solution is to get a pre-paid card to apply either to PayPal or the game long enough to get the sub started.	
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			ok for the first 2 is over, with a support ticket solved in less than 24 hours (kudos for you carbine) the get bypass the credit card thing (as i said its purely bureaucratic process), explaining their situation, so now 2 new nexians (getting myself ready to run academy  in rally again!).Thanks all for your ideas and advice, with new players ill be giving advice to get a gift card or make a support ticket explaining their situation (the one whos faster).	
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			whoooo!!!	
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but you can say you can enter the game without seting up a suscription with a credit card after buying a retail copy? how do you did that? can you teach us?
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			Hey! Pretty sure we talked in game, and I'm glad that you got this sorted out! I hope you and your friends have a lot of fun on Nexus. :D	
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