Earth-34/Ideas

how hell works:
* not different dimensions, but circles (Limbo, Brimstone, etc.)
Flagship franchises:
* Alpha Flight
** members: 
*** Snowbird, Shaman
*** Wild Child
*** Talisman?
**formation:
***James Hudson forms a covert team to raid Department K
****... most of them die in the process
****Deadpool gets saved, though!
* Ant-Man
** Hank Pym was kidnapped by Soviets/HYDRA and replaced by a Skrull?
* Avengers
** Shang-Chi arrives to kill Iron Man, revealing that Tony's arc reactor was based off of Mandarin's technology, causing Cap and others to doubt Tony Stark
** vs Sekhmet
** original lineup:
*** Iron Man, Ant-Man, Wasp, Thor, Captain America, Hawkeye, Black Widow (Hawkeye and Black Widow have been working for Cap at least a short time)
*** Hulk is there
*** Thor leaves when he gets let back into ASgard
*** Cap adds Wanda and Pietro to the team
*** Cap offers to teach the kids how to be effective heroes
*** Tony Stark insists he doesn't need any help, but bankrolls their effort and establishes the Avengers Mansion
**membes who will join:
***Sif - maybe replaces Thor?
**vol 1
***while Cap starts training the team on Earth, Tony follows Thor to Asgard (or the Secret Isle or wherever? maybe even the Savage Land?) to find Loki
****Tony says his motivation is noble, like revenge or whatever, but honestly he's doing it because he doesn't believe in magic and wants to see the staff of Loki
**vol 2? or still vol 1?
***trip to Asgard, to see if they can find someone like the Enchantress or someone who might be able to revert Hulk back into his Banner persona
* Young Avengers
** "Kamala and Kate on a young avengers road trip evaluating different teen heroes is an intriguing premise. It's the perfect buildup to introduce Nathaniel Richards, I thought fans wanted that."
*Bloodstone
**Ulysses gets separated from the Blood Stone and begins rapidly aging. his wife tracks his estranged daughter down and wants to kidnap/kill her and extract the blood stone she naturally inherited. Elsa refuses and lets her dad die
**monsters to hunt:
***The Wendigo
***Sasquatch
***Bi-Beast?
***Fin Fang Foom
*Captain America
**Cap vs Doctor Faustus
**Cap's Kooky Quartet
***maybe expand into something bigger... like a whole Cap team of Cap's misfits?
****obv Hawkeye, Black Widow, the Maximoff twins
****but then also Bruce Banner, Iron Man,
****Tony Stark things he doesn't need fixing
****lmao we're just reinventing the Avengers
**Cap learns that Dum Dum Dugan is still alive, but actually a cyborg
**Cap becomes a werewolf? "Capwolf" story arc
**invaders
***Angel/Thomas Halloway
*Captain Marvels
**Carol Danvers SHOULD NOT abandon Earth to go for the cosmos; if she does, this should cause a alling out between her and Ms Marvel
**vs Nitro
* Daredevil
** in one volume he has to cover for Punisher
** in one, vs Martin Li and FEAST?
** vs Purple Man?
*** has to ally with Kingpin to defeat him?
*** 
** in one, vs The Hand - it turns out that the Kirigi have been funneled through the Rand Corporation
** vol with Kingpin, vs Elektra
*** Murdock discovers that Kingpin has been working alongside the Hand, meaning that Elektra has been working alongside the people she sought to kill for assassinating her father
** move to San Francisco
*** forced out by Kingpin? Karen Page flees there?
***
**Daredevil returns to NYC after Spider-Man confronts him
***he begins training Iron Fist and Luke Cage
**Heather Glenn arc
***Purple Man takes over her dad, forces him to do shady business
***Daredevil accuses Heather Glenn's dad, Purple Man forces him to kill himself
**employees
***Rebecca/Becky Blake
*Defenders
**vs Psyklop? could go into the Microverse
* Doctor Strange
** events - 
*** scattering of sorcerors around the globe
**** after this, Doctor Strange becomes the Sorcerer Supreme
***Baron Mordo's fall from grace
***invasions of the Mindless Ones - turn into a Defenders story?
**vs Nightmare
**vs Dormammu
**character arc - overcoming "only i can handle the knife"?
*Eternals
** really old gods
*** Atem - original god of the sun. becomes the Demogorge. then becomes the sun. Ikarus looks up to him (hence Icarus + flying too close to the sun)
**okay, so as we discuss in Thor, the gods have been heading to earth via proxy. many of them have been using robot bodies ("Eternals"). at some point, Thor frees the rest of the eternals, essentially giving them freedom
***a few of the Eternals already defected earlier, and these are the Titans
* Fantastic Four
** slooooowwwwww it down
** vol 1
*** go into a worm hole, into the Negative Zone
*** like the Upside Down (Stranger Things) or Planet Zero (Fant4stic)
**** or save this for later, when Sue gets her force field powers this way?
***Phoenix is the grim reaper from the Negative Zone (i.e., instead of being a force of death, it's a force of life)
***vs Red Ghost and his apes?
****he's been funded by HYDRA or some other group, maybe even Doom, to try and produce more fantastic four-esque heroes?
***vs Mad Thinker and her creations?
****i.e. android Human Torch
**Susan should have a lil flirty time with Namor
**Grimm mates with Sharon Ventura? idk man
** starts with them all in house arrest
** heading to Wundagore
*** because of the puppetmaster using magic clay?
**discoveries:
***Unstable Molecules
**first frightful four team
***Trapster, Wizard... Eel?
**discovering
***alternate dimensions
****the Maker, Malice
**Johnny Storm dies... but they don't want this to happen, so Reed fucks up the timeline to save him? this has a whole Strange & Man-Thing vs Four battle and shit
***maybe the Four want to do it, but get beaten and stopped and realize the err of their ways... and then baby Franklin rearranged the timeline and resurrects Johnny?
**aux members:
***Frankie Raye
*Guardians of the Galaxy
**Peter Quill meets his other siblings
***Mantis
***Victoria of Spartax
*Hellcat/Patsy Walker
**Hanover modeling agency?
***Chili Storm, Millie Collins, Jill Jerold, Toni Turner
***investigating Sachet Nelson
**vs Mad-Dog
***her (ex? or just soon to be ex?))boyfriend goes to Roxxon or a power broker to get powers when she becomes Hellcat?
*Hulk
**vs Ulysses Bloodstone?
**vs Nekra?
**vs Xemnu, the "original Hulk"?
**creation of She-Hulk
**creation of Doc Samson
***helps psychoanalyze Hulk to figure out that the Hulk is Bruce's inner psyche/a s plit personality
**vol 2
***Captain Marvel works with Bruce Banner, maybe even Hank Pym?, to create a machine that allows Bruce to transform himself back into the Hulk
***vs Abomination?
**Betty Ross gets turned into glass/crystal (Sandman does it like in the comics?), and the way she's cured is by either... turning her to the Harpy, first? she can turn into the Red Hulk way later
**Glenn Talbot wants Betty Ross 
***Glenn Talbot eventually becomes Graviton
**the "Green Door" or whatever is a manifestation of Bruce's inner psyche
**Hulk's first love, Jarella
**Hulk alters
***Devil Hulk - the og grey hulk, based on world conquest
***Green Scar?
***Grey Hulk - a smart, antisocial misanthropic hulk
***Nul - Asgardian-empowered god Hulk
***Professor Hulk
***Savage Hulk - "green hulk"
***
*Iron Man
**starts out with him missing
**he returns to find out that his old business partner Stane sold him out, and Stark International has been torn asunder
**he teams with Colonel James Rhodes to try and get Stark back together and trace down his stolen tech
**suits:
***all model numbers are from the comics, we don't have our canon ones yet
***Silver Centurion
***Model 4/Illustrious
***Model 37/Bleeding Edge
***Model 48/Cold Iron Armor
***Model 49/Original Sin Armor
***Model 51/Prime Armor (with stealth mode)
***Magic Modified
***Promethium Armor (Heroes Reborn)
***Staarboost
***Uru Armor - Tony's take on the Destroyer armor
***our numbers/confirmed we should use???
****Model 1 - Tin Can
****Starboost - first sacefaring suit
*Marvel Team-Up
**Cyclops and the X-Men/Captain America and the Avengers
***this would be a pretty big status quo changer
****Captain America works with Guardian to change SHIELD's policies around mutants
*****could lead to the foundation of Alpha Flight?
**X-Men/Captain America - vs the Fenris twins!
**X-Men/Doctor Strange
***or New Mutants/Dr Strange. would tell of Xavier contacting Dr Strange to try and help defeat his rampaging brother Juggernaut, and possibly free him from Cyttorak. 
**Spider-Man/X-Men
***vs Sauron
****Sauron was created by Magneto in an early attempt to turn people into mutants with Sinister tech? 
****either way, Spider-Man thinks he's got Lizard tracked down to the Everglades 
**Spider-Man/Wolverine
***Spider-Man learns about Roxxon doing mining operations closer to the Canadian border 
***Spider-Man in Toronto! maybe Montreal! he is very confused and lost. 
***James Hudson learns of this and calls up Wolverine to track down Spider-Man
****origin of Guardian! 
**Thor/X-Men
***a group of people kidnap Bobby. the X-Men assume they're mutant extremists, but they're actually Norse worshippers trying to reincarnate Ymir 
*Ms Marvel
**adopted like the X-Men just like Carol Danvers?
**maybe we could still do Ms Marvel and teen!Cyclops?
***Ms Marvel has Gwenpool look at Rick Jone's Quantum Bands, which allows teen!Cyclops to transport through time without learning too much and breaking the timestream
*Shang-Chi
**dispatched by the Mandarin to the west and turns
* Spider-Man
** Green Goblin - starts out as supersoldier serum guy, then eventually gets more monstrous
*** makes a pact with Mephisto during inferno
*** Spider-Man and Goblin don't assume the other's identity; both think that Harry is the other
*** incorporate Red Goblin? this transformation could give Carnage fire powers
**Carnage, Venom, Symbiotes
***Monster Octopus from the first spiderman game?
**Clone Saga
***incorporates Superior Spiderman - maybe after Carnage destroys Doc Ock's human body?
**Roxxon saga
***vs Batwing
****eventually cured by the Lizard?
***vs Electro
****gets help from the X-Men?
**vs Kraven
***first appears as a Green Goblin hired guy
***then appears, maybe empowered by Calypso?
****Spider-Man is like "yeah magics not real" but then maybe Calypso whips out a spider totem powerset to empower Kraven?
****Spider-Man partners with Doctor Strange and maybe Captain Universe and learns about Madame Web and the Spider Totems and
**vs Human Fly
**vs Radioactive Man
**vs Redeye
***could be a villain in the Venom story, as an astronaut having returned from space
**vs Scorpion
***hired by JJJ
**lore:
***Brock and Parker family were working together, for OsCorp, when OsCorp discovered Symbiotes
****Parker and Brock family destroyed symbiotes
****someone had the Parkers assassinated for that
**Spider-Tech:
***"his tech being scrappy half baked clearly prototypes is the best compromise tbh, shit would be breaking half the time and the only reason it does fail is cause all his resources go to his webshooters, the actual things that give him a fighting edge and saves lives"
***new suits
****Anti-Symbiote Suit https://marvelsspidermananimatedseries.fandom.com/wiki/Synthetic-Symbiote 
****armored suit
****Iron Spider
****electroproof suit
****Anti-Ock suit
****stealth suit - inspired by Miles Morales
****Night-Monkey suit
****anti-magic suit
***spider-tracer
****tracking the Spider-Tracer killer
**Venom
***symbiotes are tied to the web of life and destiny?
**university years
***classmates:
****Jamie Tolentino
***villains:
****Boomerang
****Hobgoblin
****Humbug - uni science classmate
**long-game: 
***eventually becomes a teacher
*Spider-Man Miles Morales
**vs Frost Pharaoh, a young white kid who gets way too much into ancient Egypt but eventually does get claimed by an Egyptian ice god.... Shu?
***idk the story is about cultural appropriation here
**romances
***Kamala Khan - he has a crush on her, she's like haha i wanna be friends
***Starling - Vulture's daughter
*tomb of dracula?
*Thor
**cast down to earth by loki
**Sif originally comes down to Earth, possessing Jane Foster?
***the gods have been scared or unwilling to appear on Earth as their mortal selves for some time, usually doing so by proxy (possession, robots as in Eternals)
*Tigra
* X-Men
** starts with the formation of the second team? Sentinel crisis? Wolverine and a runaway Kitty Pryde?
*** if we do the Wolvy + Kitty idea we seriously need to have Kitty's character personality established
**vs Rev Stryker
***has kidnapped Xavier's son, or Proteus, and is using him as a slave to enslave mutants?
**X-Men crash on an island and it's basically A Most Dangerous Game
**could be about the X-Men going public?
***"First Class" team -
***at the same time, Magneto is trying to assassinate the president
****Brotherhood
*****Mystique
*****Nightcrawler
*****Destiny
***Warren dates Candy Southern and they flirt with joining the Hellfire Club
***Wolvy saves Rogue, who is running away?
***Rogue and Wolvy experiment with both the Brotherhood and X-Men
***the X-Men thwart Mystique's last-ditch assassination attempt on the senator, prompting Magneto to try and assassinate him themself?
**vol 2 -
***Genosha?
****an open-air prison, like Palestine
***mutant marauders? then Sentinels in vol 3?
***or no
***X-Men vol. 2 will be about the Mutant Massacre and Reverend Ryker, which are planned by Bolivar Trask to premeditate the Sentinel crisis
****but how will we explain the Morlocks feeling like they're being hunted if the Sentinels aren't a thing...?
***Dazzler comes out as a mutant in Vol. 2
**ok, rough outline (2.28.2024):
***vol. 2 - Reverend Stryker and the mutant cure, presented by Warren Worthington II, who has copied the plan from Beast's hormone suppressants
****Proteus is revealed as Xavier's first son, and is being held by William Stryker after having been kidnapped from Muir Island
****Beast ends up suing Worthington Industries
****dramatic confrontation with the Hellfire Club?
****X-Factor vol 1?
***vol. 3 - Sentinel Crisis, mutant massacre
****Xavier establishes the New Mutants concurrently?
****X-Factor vol. 2? Jaime Madrox investigates Cameron Hodges
***vol. 4 - Apocalypse
****would have tobe aafter the Avengers are established, because X-Factor will already have been established as a mutant "SHIELD" team
****ends with Jean Grey realizing her Phoenix potential?
****En Sabah Nur was an ancient mutant, led his people to a world called "Arakko" (a mutant forest like Krakoa), and came back to earth to liberate more mutants, but was killed in the process. he returns, planning to destroy earth, but is defeated by the x-men, and at the end he returns to Arakko (revealed to be on mars)
*****he wants to take his four horsemen home to Arakko... Beast trades himself for Archangel, which will turn him into Dark Beast back on Arakko
***future books could be the Brood, Maddy Pryor
***eventually M-Day
***where does Cable come in?
***addendum 3/8/2024:
****vol. 5 - Shi'Ar and Hellfire Club
*****Xavier is revealed to have been keeping an eye on Jean for the Shi'ar to use as their weapon, having essentially traded her for the technology of Cerebro and the Danger Room
*****Hellfire Club will not let Jean fall into the hands of the Shi'ar
*****Jean is upset she's not really getting a voice in all of this
*****PSYCHIC DUELS
*****Scott leaves after Jean's death, Xavier goes to the Shi'ar homeworld
*****in the future, Emma Frost will seek out Cyclops and probably actually Alex will get to him first, exploring the Shi'ar and stuff with their whole family ties (while Scott gets busy knocking up Maddy Pryor)
****vol. 6 - Brood
*****Kitty Pryde impregnated?
**rough outline 3.18.2024
***vol. 2 - Rev Stryker -> Legion/Proteus
****meanwhile:
*****Wolverine and Shadowcat go to Japan for the first time?
***vol. 3 - Sentinel Crisis, Mutant Massacre
****meanwhile: 
*****Wolverine and Shadowcat: Days of Future Past??? idfk
*****i want Wolverine going around and saving Jubilee
***vol. 4 - Master Mold? is this necessary? meanwhile Living Monolith and Gambit/Rogue in New Orleans?
***vol. 4 or 5?
****En Sabah Nur awakens
**vol 3
***Sentinel attacks begin
***Jubilee is saved and joins the X-Men
**vol 4
***En Sabah Nur awakens after his people are being massacred by the Sentinels
***Four Hourseman will be:
****Archangel (DUH)
****also Prosh is there
***will Archangel seduce Ichisumi and father the Apocalypse Twins in this? how?
**Legion/the Gift happens between vol. 3 and vol. 4? would be like a minor adaption of X2
***X-Factor forms after the Avengers happens,
**House of M
***would be following the death of Quicksilver? Wanda creates a world where everyone's wishes can be true
****Peter Parker is not Spider-Man
****Quicksilver is alive
****Vision is a real man, and married to Wanda, with whom they have two children
***unfortunately, due to the conflicting nature of wish-granting, the world consistently keeps getting racked by incursions (i.e. Xavier wants human-mutant cooperation, whereas Magneto wants mutant supremacy, causing the worlds to collide). Magneto ends up having to put his daughter down, though thanks to the incursions his "grandchildren" are saved
**how does Xavier meet the Shi'ar? 
***Xavier leaves for a while and Emma Frost takes over. this is what seprates Generation X and the New Mutants
**Phoenix saga
***Hellfire Club aspire to use Phoenix to take over the world/Shi'ar empire or something
***psychic duels
****Emma Frost's true Boston accent and poor upbringing are revealed
***Jean Grey returns with her tentacle arms?
**Romulus and Selene have a society of ancient Romans... maybe in the Savage Land? or maybe it's run by the Collector?
**Mojoworld?
***Longshot is a rebel, Spiral was her lover, but Mojo took her and manipulated her
***Longshot gets separated from
****Longshot knocks up Dazzler, who gives birth to Shatterstar, who is kidnapped (by Mojo? Cable?) and taken back to Mojoworld to ensure a timeloop
**Alkali-Transigen
**possible plot beats:
***Goblin Queen leads the "Hex-Men"
***Mystique disguises herself as a student and enrolls
***Rogue finds her true identity as Marian Carlisle?
***Archangel's redemption arc - Detective Charlotte Jones
***Haven births the Adversary
***Annalee adopts the morlock kids
***Acanti space whale Charles Xavier? 
***the Danger Room comes to life as Danger
***vampires
****Jubilee, Gambit become vampires?
**subteams:
***X-Terminators - the wards of X Factor; unless we just roll them into a young class of students during the mutant massacre/Inferno that ends up inspiring the New Mutants?
**DOFP
***how is this gonna work lmao
***Kitty Pryde/Wolverine adventure with Bishop during the Mutant Massacre, where they meet Bishop, who returns from the Days of Future Past, a timeline where a Sentinels reigned supreme?
***Cable returns from another future, where Apocalypse reigned supreme? Bishop and Cable are essentially two sides of the same future
****Cable is the human son of Maddy Pryor and Cyclops, born after Apocalypse, though he only really knows his mother as Maddy and himself as Nate Summers. Cyclops never learns this? idk we need some way to hide his identity!
****Cable claims to not be a mutant, but he really does have psychic powers that are just being oppressed by his techno-organic virus, and in his attempt 
****Stryfe could be Cable from DoFP who migrated to AoA and then migrated back to the present day?
****then in our timeline Jean (or I guess Maddy) and Scott could have Nate Grey, aka X-Man
***both futures could be decimated by the Technoorganic "Legacy" Virus, so they form X-Force with SHIELD in an attempt to figure out how to cure it
****it eventually manifests as a mutant-destroying virus during No More Mutants
**spinoff titles?
***Exiles
***First Class
****vol 2
*****Zala Dane and Garokk the Petrified Man?
***New Mutants
****at the end of New Mutants vol. 1 or vol. 2, Xavier leaves? Kitty Pryde does the "Professor X is a jerk!?" thing, maybe after learning she was just being played as a pawn to counter the Hellfire Hellions or something
***X-Factor
****starts off as X-Factor Investigations? being manipulated by Cameron Hodge? maybe Xavier even sets him up, thinking it would be good for the team to have a human-arranged team?
*****Guardian places Deadpool on the team
*****ooh, maybe Jaime Madrox investigates X-Factor, which leads him to find out the truth behind Cameron Hodge?
****then in X-Factor vol. 2, Multiple Man takes over
***X-Men Abroad: would be like a traveling story about discovering new mutants and exploring their stories?
***X-Statix? could be the new X-Force
*X-Men spinoff: Rogue
*X-Men spinoff: Nightcrawler
**relationship with Daytripper
**the Bamfs
**tenure as a Spider-Man
**gets stuck in the Brimstone circle of hell during Inferno?
*X-Men spinoff: Xavier
**first contact with the Shi'Ar
***uses their technology for the Danger room 
*The Wolverine
**Weapon X
***Andre Thornton
***past storyline:
****Weapon X attacks Lord Death Wind to learn how to coat bones with Adamantium
**Wolverine and Shadowcat
***going to Japan
***vol. 2? vol. 3 concurrent?
***run into Kwannon and Betsy Braddock of Excalibur?
***body-kidnapping?
***Wolverine's Japan trip is essentially sabotaged so he goes back home
****
Story beats:
* Skree-Krull War
* Inferno
** Doom summons hell on Earth to save his mom's soul.
*** after this, his motives change from saving his mom's soul to saving all. also, it might be when he welds the mask to his face
*** "devil's breath" spores kill Aunt May
*Last Planet Standing
**galactus devours asgard or shi'ar homeworld?
*The Coming of Galactus
**Galactus/Silver Surfer are interested in Earth after J Jonah Jameson's kid goes to space and Earth confirms the existence of alien life
***Venom comes to Earth
*Excalibur gets involved during a Proteus/Legion saga?
**the X-Men go to Muir Island
**prime minister Mad Jim Jaspers is revealed to be a reality warping mutant
**STRIKE is established/expanded
*the celestial hatching from Earth and the SHIELD plan that Earth will be destroyed by 2060?
*maybe do an actual infinity "war"? https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelsWhatIf/comments/1996zds/what_ifhela_sought_the_infinity_gauntlet/ 
romances:
* Danny Rand/Colleen Wing/Misty Knight?
* Daredevil and Karen Page
* Daredevil and Milla Donovan(?)
* Daredevil and She-Hulk
* Hercules and She-Hulk
* Mephisto and Magma
** in retrospect eww
* Gambit and Rogue
** Mystique does not approve
*Zemo and Songbird
teams:
* Brotherhood of Mutants/acolytes
** OG lineup?:
*** Blob
*** Mastermind?
*** Mesmero?
*** Toad
* Heroes for Hire
* Knights of New York
* Midnight Suns
* Nightshift - a gang of villains who take over LA
* Nightstalkers
* The Rangers?
* Salem's Seven
* Slingers - inspired by Spider-Man, they use old Spider-Man villain gimmicks
* X-Men
** Earth Liberation Front - forms to break the X-Men out of prison illegally? 
more:
* Hellfire Club
** Harry Leland Black Bishop
** Donald pierce White Bishop - wants to kidnap Wolverine
* SHIELD
** ARMOR - alternate reality
** STAKE - vampire/supernatural threats
** STRIKE - for coordinating international?
*** PSI division
** SWORD - alien threats
Character ideas:
sorted by most recognizable title
* 8-Ball - Bar with No Name regular
* All Hallows Eve/Elizabeth Tyne
* Angel/Thomas Halloway - WW2 superhero
* Angelo Fortunado - a temporary Venom host
* Arana/Anya Corazon
* Arcade and Arcata
* Armadillo/Antonio Rodriguez
** Karl Malus gives him superpowers?
* Asgardians
** Sif
** Thor
** Thor-Girl/Tarene - superpowers herself into godhood? starts off as a member of the Valkyrior?
** Valkyrie
** Valkyrior
*Atlanteans
**Attuma
**Dorma
**King Karthon
**Llyra/"Laurie Morris" - a half Lemurian and human born in Hawaii as a mutant; essentially a dark Namor
**Namor
**Orka - a soldier in Krang's army
**Warlord Krang
**Lady Dorma
*Aunt Anna
* Baron Mordo
* Baron Zemo
* Beetle
** Janice Lincoln - daughter of Tombstone
* Bengal
* Big Wheel
* Black Cat/Felicia Hardy
** wasian
*Blackheart - son of Mephisto
* Black Talon
* Black Widow Natalia Romanova
** sleeper agent?
*Blade
*Blindspot - a merc sent after Daredevil?
*Boomerang
* Brother Voodoo/Jericho Drumm and his brother
* Brothers Grimm
* Brute - a Hulk/Mr. Fantasti clone created by High Evolutionary
* Dane Wittman/Black Knight
** is a Defender... potentially starts in a Swordsman/Hawkeye comic where they stop Swordsman from winning the Ebony Blade somewhere
*Calypso
*Candy Southern
*Carol Danvers -
**Carol becomes Ms. Marvel to Captain Marvel after Captain Marvel is captured by the Kree
**Carol ends up losing her Kree powers to Rogue
**Carol... becomes a Horseman of Apocalypse? that could be interesting! somehow she has to get her Binary "you have the powers of a star" powers
***maybe she uses Magneto's mutant-forcing machine?
**Carol ends up with the Power Stone, which reawakens her Kree power after she lost it to Rogue, and so she becomes the modern Captain Marvel we know
**ms Marvel suit is a mix between her first suit (red and dark blue), which is one of Mar-Vell's old suits she'll take for herself, and some fabrics of her own design (the sash is a torn cape, and a domino mask she took for herself)
**becomes a single mother like Chris Claremont intended? to an actual baby, and not a superfreak that grows up?
*Carnage
*Carnage/Kletus Kasady
*Celestials
**Galactus
**Starchild - born in the sun?
**Tiamut
*Chameleon
*Chance - an assassin with a gambling addiction
*Chaos King/Amatsu-Mikaboshi
*Charon/Charles Ronald - a mutant hater who makes a deal with a devil and turns into Charon, the ferry to the underworld
*Chasm/Ben Reilly
*Clea
*Cloak and Dagger
*Colonel Glenn Talbot - works for General Ross, eventually steals the War-Wagon to try and kill Hulk
*Cooper Coen/Web-Weaver
*COunt Nefaria
*Crossfire/William Cross - a SHIELD agent
**used to work with Marc Spector, actually
**almost dies in an explosion, brought back by his relative Darren Cross
*Cullen Bloodstone
*Crimson Dynamo
*D-Man
*Daily Bugle
**Norah Winters - reporter
**
*Dakota North
*Dallas Riordan
*Dark Angel/Shevaun Haldane - father was killed by Mephisto (or another devil) and an angel approached her to give her power
*Dario Agger - after being impressed by Norman Osborn and his goblin king pact, Dario asks for "godlike power" and receives the transformation of the minotaur
*Dawn Greenwood
**companion of the Silver Surfer!
*Deadpool
**tragic mentally Ill sad clown who desperately wants to be good but has a way of sabotaging himself
*Deathlok
*Death-Stalker
*demons
**Adversary
**Blackheart - Mephisto's son (?)
**Dreamqueen
**Ghost Rider 
***Johnny Blaze - makes a deal with Mephisto to save his father's life. Mephisto turns him into his own enforcer, bonding him to Zarathos 
****works with Zarathos to turn him away from Mephisto, but Zarathos eventually gets tricked by Mephisto again and Johnny Blaze gets set free (?)
***Danny Ketch
***Robbie Reyes
***Zarathos - a demon who once challenged Mephisto; he was ultimately defeated in a gambit where Mephisto bonded him to a soulless man (Centurious). Zarathos has since served Mephisto as an enforcer, but seeks a way to escape Mephisto
**Phantom Rider - Mephisto's enforcer in the old west; he eventually stole Mephisto's boon (the Hellfire) which got diffused into his bloodline
*Diamondhead/Archibald Dyker
*Digger
*Doctor Dorcas
**creates the Tiger-Shark
*Doc Ock
**Superior Spiderman -Ock takes a clone and goes by Elliot Tolliver, becoming the Superior Spider-Man
*Doc Samson
*Doctor Doom
**Romani
**He puts a mask on to cover a scar, proceeds to disfigure himself because of his pride. 
*Doctor Dorcas
**Namor villain
**maybe have him work with the High Evolutionary? 
*Doctor Faustus/Johann Fennhoff
**enemy of Captain America. starts off as his therapist? could be in with HYDRA? 
*Don Fortunato - New York Maggia crimeboss 
*Dr GLitternight
*Donald Pierce - White Bishop of the Hellfire Club, wants to exterminate mutants
*elders of the universe
**The Collector
**The Gardener/Ord Zyonz
**The Voyager/Va Nee Gast - daughter of the Grandmaster
*Electro - forced into developing his powers by Roxxon?
*Elsa Bloodstone
*ESU/Midtown High
**Bluebird/Sally Avril
**Randy Robertson
*Firebird/Bonita Juarez
*Maximilian Frankenstein
*Frankie Raye
*Frog Man
*Frost Pharaoh
**
*Gladiator/Melvin Potter
**should def have a Gladiator vs Razorfist fight at some point
*Glob
*Gloriana/Meggan Pucneau
*Go-Go Tomago
*Gog - Tsiln, alien who crashes on Earth and is raised by Kraven
*Gorgon/Tomi Shishido
*Gorilla Man/Ken Hale
*Grapplers
**the Grapplers are empoered by Roxxon... but maybe Sharon Ventura wants to lead the Grapplers, and so she goes to Karl Malus, who will fuse her DNA with Ben Grimm?
*Graviton - Glenn Talbot?
*gGreen Knight
*Grey Gargoyle
*Grizzly/Maxwell Markham
*Hamilton Slade
*Hammerhead - Magia
*Hannibal King
*The Hood
*Hornet
*Humbug - entomologist goes crazy, eventually becomes a Brood host?
*Hypno-Hustler
*Ikari
*Indira Daimonji
*Inhumans
**Crystal
*Iron Fist Danny Rand
*Iron Fist Orson Randall
*Jackal/Miles Warren - a member of the Lupine, and potentially Hydra. clones spideran
**actually, scratch this. he's an Animal Man clone of the original Warren. or is he? he doesn't know if he's a clone or not. 
**why clone Spider-Man? because he wants to continue the High Evolutionary's research, which ended off with the Spider-Woman
*Jack O' Lantern
*Jaime Tolentino
*Jennifer Kale
**wanna be witch saved by the Man Thing?'
*Jigsaw
*Justice/Vance Astrovik
*Ka-Zar
**his brother is Parnival Plunder
*Kangaroo
*Karl Malus/Power Broker I
**becomes Power Broker... are we doing that Human Fly forced him into it again?
*Klaw/Ulysses Klaue
*Kraven the Hunter
*Kree
**Lauri-Ell
**Mari-Ell
*Kristoff Vernard
**perhaps the Doombots kidnap and reprogram him into Doom 2?
*Lady Deathstrike
*Leap-Frog
*Lei Kung the Thunderer
*Leonid - a Deviant/human hybrid
*Lissette Orlova
**Reed Richards' Latverian girlfriend
**maybe Reed breaks up with her for Sue, and Doom manipulates her into carrying Reed's child as leverage against him?
*Living Laser
*Living Monolith
*Living Zombie/Simon Garth
*Mad-Cap
*Mad-Dog/Robert Baxter
*Mad Thinker
*Madisynn
*Maggia
**Don Fortunato
*Magma
*Man-Bull/Bill Taurens
**Dario Agger gives him a formula derived from his own Minotaur transformation that turns him into a Man-Bull
*Man-Thing
**origin:
***a scientist on Project GLADIATOR
****works with Kurt Connors?
***AIM is in the area? anyways, Ted Sallis dies and gets reincarnated
*Man-Wolf/James Johnson
*Mandrill - conquers the Animen? 
**
*Margali of the Winding Way?
* Martin Li/Mr. Negative
** Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde. for a while, Mr. Negative is the more powerful personality.
** had a disability as a child, and got treatment for it in the Negative Zone
*Master of the World/Eshu
*Mendel Stromm
*Millicent Collins/Millie the Model
*Mina
*Missing Link
*Mr Fish
*Mole-Man
*Molten Man
*Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur
*Moon Knight
**Marc Spector - secret government agent
*Moonstone I/Lloyd Floch
*Moonstone/Karla Sofen
*Morbius the Living Vampire
*Mother Righteous - one of the clones created by Mr. Sinister
*Muse
*Mysterio/Quentin Beck
*N'Kantu, the Living Mummy
*Needle
*Nekra - formed by nuclear testing
*Nighthawk
*Night Thrasher
*nu-humans
**Amir Khan - Ms Marvel's older brother
**Cloud 9/Abby Boylen - creates sentient clouds. doesn't want to be a hero, just fly.
**Doris Bray
**Ren Kimura
**Romeo
*Ord of Breakworld
*Overdrive
*Owl
*Panda-Mania
*Patton Parnell
*Piecemeal
*Pirahna
*Power Pack
**Zero-G/Alex Power
**Energizer/Katie Power
**Lightspeeed/Julie Power
**Mass Master/Jack Power
*Power Princess
*Prowler
**Hobie Brown is Prowler I - he designs the suit
**Prowler II (Miles' uncle) steals the suit
*Puma/Thomas Fireheart
*Psyklop
*Psylocke
*Queen Divine Justice/Ce'Athauna Asira Davin/Chante Giovanni Brown - grew up in Chicago, raised by an escaped Dora Milaje in Chicago
*Radioactive Man
*Ravonna Renslayer
*Reavers - formed by Donald Pierce to get Wolverine
**Pretty Boy
*Redeye - astronaut who returns to Earth
*Rhino
*Ricochet/Johnathon Gallo
*Rintrah
*Rocket Racer
*Rom the Space Knight
*Lady Roma
*Ronan the Accuser
*Runaways
*Sabra
*Sandman
*Satana Hellstrom
*Scorcher - Spider-Man enemy
*Shaman/Michael Twoyoungmen
*Shang-Chi
*Shathra
*Shiklah - monster queen?
*Silhouette Chord - manipulates the Darkforce
*Silk
*Silk II/Albert Moon Jr
*Silvermane - Maggia crimebooks
*Silver Sable - in Spectacular, she is the daughter of Silvermane... keep that the same?
**Silvija Sablinova?
*Scar - a Flora colossi, monstrous form of Groot
*Scarlet Spider/Kaine Parker
*Scorpion/Mac Gargan
*Screwball
*Sekhmet
*Sharon Ventura
*Shatterstar
*Shi'Ar
**Blacklight and White Noise
**Cerise
**Deathbird
**Deathcry
**Erik the Red
**Ka'ardum
**Lilandra
**Vulcan/Gabriel Summers
*SHIELD agents
**Chastity McBryde
**Clay Quartermain - liaison to Alias and the Hulkbusters
**Commander Crimson/Sayuri Kyota - HYDRA secret agent, maybe remains even after secret empire to be like a sleeper agent on reserve. potentially gets her hand on the Power Stone after Infinity Gauntlet?
**Dum Dum Dugan - was replaced by a Life-Model Decoy
**Sebastian Drew/Druid - recruited by Quake
**Hellfire/JT James -descendant of Phantom Rider/Carter Slade. dates Quake
**Jerry Hunt - dates Jess Drew for a while
**Jonathan Garret
**Mockingbird/Bobbi Morse
**Phobos - son of Ares, raised by Amatsu-Mikaboshi
***perhaps he's an Eternal who has regenerated?
***was an Eternal who was abducted by Amatsu-Mikaboshi? 
**Slingshot/Yo-Yo Rodriguez
**Stonewall/Jerry Sledge - gets the powers from his father Absorbing Man
*Shiklah, Queen of the Underworld - change to "Queen of the Monsters"? marries Dracula
**has a little follower called Bug
*Shroud
*Siege/John Kelly
*Skein/Gypsy Moth/Sybarite/Sybil Dvorak - Romani mutant, heads to become a movie star in Los Angeles along with her boyfriend Jason Reed
*Snowguard
*Sleepwalker/Rick Sheridan
*Slug - east coast crimeboss
*Speedball
*Spider-Women
**Anya Corazon/Arana
**Cassandra Webb/Madame Web - suffers a disability, her mom travels to the Amazon to catch a spider with psychic abilities, her parents get killed by Simms family
**Julia Carpenter/Arachne/Madame Web
**Mattie Franklin - becomes the Spider-Woman in Peter Parker's absence
*The Spot - becomes Miles' arch-nemesis
*Squid/Don Callahan
*Squirrel Girl
*Starhawk
*Starling/Laura Harrier
*Starling/Tiana Toomes
**daughter of Vulture to his previous wife before marrying Allen
*Steel Serpent
*Stegron
*Stilt-Man
*Stonecold/Johann Bessler - alchemist who turns his body into a Gargoyle
*Swarm - a Nazi made of bees. could be a Spider-Man/Captain America teamup
*Doctor Strange
**breaks his hands in a car accident
**goes to Kamar Taj
*Symbiotes
**Antivenom - Mr. Negative + Venom sybmiote
**Bedlam
**Carnage - Child of Venom
**Mania
**Venom
**Scream - possesses Mary-Jane?
**Toxin - possesses Eddie while Flash is Agent Venom
*Talisman/Elizabeth Twoyoungmen
*Taskmaster
**is a mercenary. works with SHIELD. SHIELD originally tried to eliminate him, but he was able to defeat all the agents SHIELD sent after him
*Terrax the Tamer
*Tiger Shark
*Tigra
*Titanium Man
*Tombstone
*Topaz
*Typphoid Mary
**introduce alongside Purple Man?
*Ulysses Bloodstone
**an aging? hunter, possessor of the Blood Stone
***maybe he dies by rapidly aging after being separated from the Bloodstone?
*Volcana
*The Wall
* Werewolf by Night
* White Rabbit
* Whitney Frost
* X-Men
** Five Lights
*** Hope Summers
*** Oya
*** Primal
*** Transonic/Laurie Tromette
*** Velocidad
*** Zeeshan/Liquid Face Boy
*** Zero/Kenji Ueda
**Abyss - Azazel's son and Nightcrawler's half-brother
** AKihiro
** Alison Double
** Alpha Flight
*** Feedback
**Amelia Voght - turns into fog. Brotherhood acolyte?
**Anarchist/Tike Alicar
**Aphelion
**Arakko
***Kobak Never-Held
***Solem
***Syzya
** Armor
** Aura Charles
** Avalanche
*** use Dominkos Petrakis or Lance Alvers? or just age Dominikos down? he could be a love interest for Kitty Pryde
**** could be Kitty Pryde's analog to Bobby Drake and Pyro
**Bad Guy
** Banshee
** Beak
** Bedlam
** Black Box
** Black Tom Cassidy
** Blindfold - another one of Destiny's grandkids?
** Bling!
** Blink
** Bloke
** Bolt
** BoomBoom/Tabitha Smith - divorced parents in VA, flees/is brought to to Xavier's academy. in the X-Terminators?
** Bouncer/Renata de Lima
** Brutha Nature
** Caliban
** Cam Long
** Carter Ghazikhanian
** Cecilia Reyes - was a candidate for one of the original X-Men, but returned to her life to study medicine. is forced to accept her fate and joins the mutant movement after the Sentinel crisis
** Children of the Atom - team inspired by the X-Men
*** Cyclops-Lass
*** Feint/Gimmick
*** Marvel Guy
**Christian Frost/Red Monarch
**Collective Man
** Cyber/Silas Burr
** Cypher - starts as a legal partner of Xavier's kid, who then gets trained by Destiny? 
** D-Cel - a mutant, falls under the control of Damage Control/SMASH but then eventually maybe Juggernaut's apprentice?
** Darkveil
** Daytripper/Jimaine Szardos/Amanda Sefton/Magik II
** Dazzler
** Domino/Neena Thurman - evil mother Beatrice
*** Lazarus - Domino's brother
** Doop
** Dust
** Elixir
** Escapade/Sheila Sexton
** Eye-Boy
** Explodey Boy/Bailey Hoskins
*** uses his powers, eventually gets revived by Wanda as a zombie
**Faceshopper
**Fantomex and Cluster
**Fenris Twins
**Frenzy
**Good Arson
**Hazmat/Jennifer Takeda - Avengers academy
**Hellfire Club
***Harry Leland/Black Bishop - increaes mass of an object
***Shinobi Shaw
** Hellions (OG Hellfire Squad)
*** Catseye
*** Warpath
** Hellions
*** Mercury
*** Wither/Kevin Ford
**Training Squads
***Anole
***Armor
***Match
***Pixie/Megan Gwynn
****daughter of Jason Wyngarde/Mastermind
****both a mutant and a fairy
****eventually learns to use magic and the Souldagger from Magik
***Preview
***Spectre/Dallas Gibson
***Trance
***Wing
***Wither 
***Wolf Cub
** Eye Boy
** Flatman
** Forget-Me-Not
** Galura
** Gateway
** Generation X?
*** Cannonball
*** Chamber
*** Husk (see Guthrie kids)
*** Skin
**Ginny Guzman - adopted by Spiral (and Longshot?) as a daughter
** Glob Herman
** Graymalkin
** Grizzly
** Guthrie kids
*** Aero/Melody Guthrie
*** Amazon/Lizzie Guthrie
*** Cissie Guthrie
*** Husk - member of Generation X
*** Icarus
*** Jeb Guthrie
*** Joelle Guthrie
*** Lewis Guthrie
*** Ray Guthrie
**Hindsight
** Indra
** Infestation
** Jessie Drake
** Jubilee
** Jumbo Carnation - mutant fashion guru in New York
** Karma
** Kavita Rao
** Kiden Nixon - time-accelerating mutant that has her powers even more fucked up by psychedelics. haunted by ghost dad Nick Nixon
** Kitty Pryde
*** gets her nickname "Shadowcat" after learning about the Jaguarundi while adventuring with Wolverine in Genosha?
** Kiwi Black
** Lacuna
** Layla Miller - gets a job at X-Factor Investigations
** Leonara Eng
** Lila Cheney
** Lobe's U-Men
*** Bouncing Betty
*** Burst
*** Thug
*** Verre
***
** Luca Aldine
** Mad Jim Jaspers - a reality warping mutant who has warped his way into becoming the prime minister of Britain. kind of like Q
** Madison Jeffries
** Magik - eventually becomes Sorceror Supreme?
** Maggott
** Manifold - not necessarily an X-Men, but trained by Gateway. ends up in SWORD/SHIELD
** Marauders
***Arclight
***Courier - says NO to the mutant massacre, which leads him to be tortured by Mr. Sinister? 
***Greycrow
**Maximus Lobo
** Mirage/Dani Moonstar - joins the Valkyrior
** Mr. Sensitive
** Monet
** Monica Sellers
** Morgan Red
** Morlocks:
*** Amalgam - a hallucination experienced by damaged Angel
*** Ash
*** Beautiful Dreamer
*** Berzerker
*** Brute and Hump
*** Caliban
*** Callisto
*** Leech
*** Madin
*** Marrow
*** Masque
*** Skids - joins the X-Men; has an arc about wondering if she's too pretty and trying to stay true to her X-men roots
** Morph
** Mortis - Dazzler's sister
** Multiple Man/Jaime Madrox
** Mystiq
** Mystique
** Mr. Sinister's Nasty Boys
** Nature Girl
** Nanny/Eleanor Murch
** Negasonic Teenage Warhead
** Nightcrawler
*** tenure as a Spider-Man
**No-Girl/Cerebella
**Notcrawler
**Orphan Maker
**Paco Perez
**Pete Wisdom - Excalibur agent
**Petra - one of the X-Men Xavier made before the second X-Men team; maybe leaves after being freed from Genosha and joins the Morlocks?
**Phat
**Polaris/Lorna Dane
**Pity Girl/Nora Kuang
**Prodigy
**Psiren and Psimon
** Psylock
** Quentin Quire
** Random
** Revanche/Kwannon
** Ricochet
** Sabretooth's siblings - Clara and Saul
** Sage - X-Men inside spy on the Hellfire Club?
** Selene Gallio
** Senyaka - vampiric whips
** Sinister's chimeras
*** Cardinal
*** North (Magneto + Emma Frost)
*** Orphan Maker
*** Wagnerine, and her Golden Child
** Skin
** Saint Anna
** Siryn
** Slipstream and Lifeguard
** Snot
** Somnus
** Stacy X
** Stepford Cuckoos
*** created in a lab by Weapon X/Mr. Sinister/other people with Hellfire + govt connections as clones of Emma Frost
**Sitch/Jodi Furman
**Strong Guy
**Sublime
**Sunfire/Marika Yashida
**Surge
**Threnody - joins at Mutant Massacre instead of X-Cutioner's Song?
**Threshold - 
***Theia
**Thumbelina
** Tildie Soames
** Trevor Chase - grandson of Destiny
** U-Go-Girl
** Surge/Noriko Ashida
** X23
** Val Cooper - government liaison
** Valentine Vuong
** Vanisher
** Vivisector
** Wallflower - son of Sean Garrison... or change it to be another daughter of the Purple Man?
** Whirlwind
** Wind Dancer
** Witness/LeBeau
** Wiz-Kid
** Wolfsbane/Rahne Sinclair
** Worm
*x-men supporting cast:
**Zelda Kurtzberg - waitress at a coffee shop in Westchester that the mutants frequent
*Weapon X
**Doop
**Maverick
**John Wraith
**X23
***Talon?
*Xemnu
*Xeron the Starslayer
*Valkyrior
**Annabelle Riggs (ally)
**Barbara Norriss
**Brunnhilde
**Runa
*Vampire by Night/Nina Price
*vampires
**Alex (son of Xarus)
**Deacon Frost - looking for secret to immortality (maybe with Erskine), and then becomes a vampire instead?
**Hannibal King - another vampire vampire hunter
**Harold H. Harold
**Janus/Golden Angel
**Janus Tepes
**Lilith Frost
**Spitfire/Jacqueline Falsworth
**Xarus - Dracula's son who is constantly plotting to overthrow him
**Varnae
**Vic Slaughter - turned by Morbius?
* vampire hunters
** Frank Drake
** Rachel van Helsing - granddaughter of Van Helsings, eventually gets turned by Dracula + mercy-killed?
*Vibraxas
*Victoria of Spartax - half-sister to Peter Quill. daughter of Ego, in his Spartoi disguise of Jason?
*Viper/Ophelia Sarkissian
*Velocity/Hayley Harvey
* werewolves
** Warwolf
*Yu Onomae
* Yuriko Wantanabe/Wraith
* Simon Garth the Living Zombie
* Zeitgeist/Larry Ekler - or move him to Second Generation, since his dad is a friend of Reed?
Cold War era
* Griffin/John Horton
second generation:
* American Dream
* Azzari - child of T'Chala and Storm
* Crazy Eight
* Darkdevil
* Franklin Richards... maybe don't call him Psi-Lord lol
* Gene Thompson
* Graydon Creed/Horror Show
* J2
* Killerwatt
* Mr. Nobody- works for Fisk (or whoever the new Fisk is)
* Normie Osborn
* Raze
* Spider-Girl/Mayday Parker - develops powers at a basketball game
* Spider-Man/Gerry Drew - son of Jessica Drew
* Sylene Lokisdottir
* Tempest/Rebecca, Princess of Wakanda - child of T'Challa and Storm
* Thena Thorsdottir
* Wild Thing
* X-Men
** Alanna Neramani
** Bekka Raven
** Dancing Water - Avalanche's dauhter
** Ember/Jason Pierce - Pyro's son
** Evan Sabah Nur
** Genocide/William Rolfson - child of apocalypse
** Iceman's ice spawn
*** Ice Hulk Thing
**Gailyn and Joseph Bailey - Jean Grey's newphew
**Josiah uthrie - Smasher and Cannonball's kid
**Manisha Bashur - becomes Commcast? 
** Nocturne
** Raven LeBeau - a Mr. Sinister clone of Alex Summers and Jean Grey
** Shogo Lee - eventually gets an iron Man costume and becomes "Sentinel X"
** Tenia Jean Wagner 
** Xandra Neramani
** Xavier II - Mystique + Charles?
** X23 patients
*** Delilah - Iceman's DNA
*** Jackson - Storm's DNA?
future?:
* David Richards - Rachel Summers + Franklin Richards
* Janis Jones - granddaughter of Rick Jones
future (Spider-Man 2099):
* Lyla
* Ghost-Rider 2099/Zero Cochrane - he dies and possesses a police robot
* Ravage 2099
Earth-2211
* Chameleon - kills Spider-Man 2211
* Hobgoblin/Robin Borne - daughter of Max, drawn insane with a nanovirus
* Spider-Man/Max Borne
wild west:
* Two-Gun Kid - a Bostonian lawyer who gets inspired and heads out west to be a crime-fighter
** potentially gets brought to the future?
* Black Rider
* Doc Ock Holiday
* Hurricane/Harry Kane - enemy of 2 Gun Kid
* Kid Colt
* Outlaw Kid
* Phantom Rider/Carter Slade
* Rawhide Kid
* Red Wolf
* Flaming Star
* Web-Slinger/Patrick O'Hara
** make him a mutant, who passes down his mutation to his grandson Miguel O'Hara?
* Western Kid
alt timelines:
* Days of Future Past
** what if Ashley Barton is from this timeline
** Bishop
*Earth-1602 - unless we move it to the real timeline?
**Peter Parquagh
**Virginia Dare
* Spider-Gwen timeline
** Captain America/Samantha Wilson/Sam 13
** Doctor Asim Strange
** Matt Murdock becomes Kingpin
** Lizard/Cindy Moon
*Spider-Noir timeline
**Uncle Ben was cannibalized by the Vulture
**White Widow/Felicia Hardy
**Wanda Magnus
**The Demon/Kurt Wagner
**Punisher/Frank Castelione Jr
**Warden/Emma Frost
**The Goblin/Norman Osborn
**Captain Namor
**Thomas Halloway/Angel
*Spider-Punk timeline
**Norman Osborn takes over the world? America and the UK? he kills Spider-Man, and Hobie Brown takes up the mantle
**Captain Anarchy/Karl Morningdew
**Officer Venom/Eugene Thompson
**Hulk/Robbie Banner
**Norman "Ozzy" Osborn
**Riotheart/Riri Williams
**War Sentry/Robert Reynolds
**Daredevil Drummer of Philly/Mattea Murdock
**could mix with this an Old Man Logan or another dystopian timeline
*Sakura Spider - or just move it to the main timeline? it would have samurai Deadpool and a bunch of other similar shit
**Neiro Aratabi/Kage - a symbiote idol
**Sakura Spider/Haruka Hida
*Weird War III - a timeline where the Nazis won
**Professor Sinister/Charles Xavier - is trying to create the ultimate mutant
**Reichsmen
***Lightning Force (Nightcrawler)
*Felicia Hardy/Spider-Thief/Night-Spider - potentially from one of the timelines where Peter sacrificed himself and MJ or Gwen Stacy took up the mantle?
*Assassin Spider-Man (Earth-8351)
*Cap Sabretooth??? Sentinel of Tyranny/Sentinel of Rough Justice
*Sawtooth/God of the Wild
*possible evil timeline?
**Bamf Dragon
**Bloodstorm
*misc timelines:
**Justice Cadbury
**Kid Nightcrawler/Kurt Waggoner
**X-Men
***Buff (from Generation X pilot)
***Refrax (from Generation X pilot)
magical amulets:
* Amulets of Damballa
* Bloodstone
* Crimson Bands of Cyttorak
* Eye of Agamotto - merge with the Timestone? or have that be the orb of agamotto? 
* Night Shards - pieces of Nyx's corpse
* Nornstones
* Serpent Crown
* Siege Perilous
* Tome of Zhered-Na
locations:
* Cube - a SHELD base for SMASH enemies
* Gehenna, New Zealand - HYDRA base
* Ice Box - Canadian prison
* Providence, Canada - a secret SHIELD cache set up in Canada by Nick Fury
* Siancong
needs sorting:
* Eli Bard
* Betsy Beatty - social worker who works with Daredevil
* Candace Goth
* Nikki Gold
* Krugarr
outline 3/18/2024:
could go anywhere. who cares:
* CA War Stories
important:
* Y0
** The Hulk, vol. 1
** FF 1
** X-Men First Class 1
** X-Men 1 - Genosha, Kitty Pryde + Wolverine intro
* Y1
** FF 2 - Namor, Frightful Four, Black Panther, CoS
** Captain America
** SM 1 - Shocker, Sandman, Vulture
*** change to Shocker, Sandman, ... Electro? Hydro-Man?
*** nah Vulture kinda makes sense for learning about responsibility... fuck lmao
** XM 2 - Rev Stryker and Legion?
*** Cyclops and the co. leave to found X-Factor
** Hulk 2
** MTU
*** Spider-Man/Shadowcat - meeting Electro?
*** Spider-Man/Fantastic Four
**** Spider-Man helps the Fantastic Four and Namor beat Hydro-Man?
* Y2
** DDLA? or move to Y3?
** FF 3 - CoS in space, Kree/Skrulls
** SM 2 - Molten Man, Enforcers/Maggia?
*** put in Kingpin in this too?
** Avengers 1
** MTU
*** SM/Shadowcat 2
*** SM/FF?
**W&SC - Japan days?
**X-Factor - introduces Alpha Flight
*Y3
**FF4 - Return of Fantastic Four to Earth
***Avengers are there, w/ Captain Marvel 1
***introduction of Carol Danvers
* Y4
** SM3
*** Scorpion... then to Roxxon? ends with the first fight against Green Goblin?
**FF5 - vs Puppet Master, Ben meets Alicia. potentially introduces the Power Pack, too?
**Fantastic Wedding
***Doom arrives, revealing he hasn't been dead all along
**Book of Doom - explains what Doom has been doing?
**X-Fac 2 - Cameron Hodges goes mask-off
**Sentinel Crisis
***XM 3 - Sentinels
***W&SC2 - DOFP
* Y5
** SM4
*** Silver Sable, Green Goblin, Kraven
** FF 6 - Sue has a troublesome birth, summons the witch Agatha Harkness who curses the birth, meaning they need Doom? venture through the Time Platform?
*** Doom is like "yeah so i fell in love with alternate timeline Sue, in my personal timeline, but I can't give her a child due to timey-wimey shenanigans, so give me your real daughter"
*** idk why the fuck does Doom want Valeria
*** they meet Franklin Richards, who tells them to go ahead and make the deal with Valeria? idfk this is all getting convoluted
*** ok - here's the schtick. Doom explains that he's fallen for his alternate timeline Sue, but unfortunately can't be with her because she's in this alternate dimension. 
**** Doom and alt!Sue (Malice?) had a daughter, Valeria, but she was killed by... Kang?
**** Sue labors throughout the adventure, but she's there
**** Crystal is there, running away to fill a spot on the team?
***** maybe Medusa is there as Sue's friend?
**XM 4 - Apocalypse
***brief AVX, where Ms. Marvel loses her powers to Rogue
*Y6
**XFac 3 - Hellfire Club?
***could be when Jaime Madrox joins
**New Mutants
* Y7
** Inferno
*** Fantastic Four - Agatha Harkness, scorned by Sue, contacts Diablo
*** New Mutants - 
*** Spider-Man
**Secret Wars/Battleworld?
* Y8
** New Mutants 2
*** Magik has left, the New Mutants are all salty
**** in addition to dealing with the Hellfire Club, they're dealing with the 
***at the end, Xavier leaves Earth with the Shi'ar
***the New Mutants save Emma Frost from the ruins of the Hellfire Club
** X-Men 5: Dark Phoenix
*** the rest of the X-Men head deep into space to find Xavier, while Scott mournfully drives away
*Y9
**X-Men 6: Brood
**New Mutants 3 - 
***New Mutants fuck off to go save Magik, maybe going to Avalon in the process?
**Generation X - Emma wakes up on Earth and is like uhhhh fuck I guess I'm the leader of the X-Men