Earth-441/Ideas

rough outline:
* W0
** Superman Vol. 1
*** Clark Kent heads to Metropolis, where he meets Bruce Wayne
*** Clark is built up as not knowing much about the world, and states he spent the last four years studying abroad
**** actually spent time in space
*** he has some weird but impressive degree or something else that keeps the Daily Planet wanting him
**** Lois Lane initially views this as a point of contention
***end with Zod? or a fight against Metallo or Parasite or someone else? idfk
***end with Lex...?
***Lex creates Parasite out of a janitor at a rival's company?
****Parasite then absorbs Anthony Ivo...?
** anachronistic - Tales of the Dark Knight, Vol. 1
**anachronistic - Wonder Woman, Vol. 1
***tales of her youth
***vs Ares in WW2
* W1
** TotDK v2 - vs Doctor Death, Monster Men, Riddler, Joker
** Batgirl, Vol. 1 - vs Firefly and Killer Moth
** Batman: Caped Crusader, Vol. 1 - Batman & Robin & Batgirl, Two-Face, League of Assassins, Poison Ivy, Mr. Freeze, Scarecrow
**Superman, Vol. 2
***death of Pa Kent?
***lex does more shady shit
***Kryptonian invasion? or maybe make it Brainiac - the armada was captured by Brainiac, Clark frees them, and the armada attacks Earth to colonize it?
***ok, so... 
****Deathstroke - hired by Amanda Waller - duels Clark. Clark and Bruce interrogate Waller, wanting to know why Clark is being targeted. Lex eventually spills the beans, revealing his knowledge of Brainiac's armada approaching Earth. Lex reveals that Clark is from Krypton, and that Waller is dumb, because Brainiac's armada probably *destroyed* Krypton.
****Clark is confused by what his identity as a Kryptonian means - even Batman knew, apparently. Clark heads home and lectures his parents.
****in space, Clark attacks Brainiac head on, perhaps with Lex's help
****Clark races to Earth when, in orbit, he hears his father's heartbeat fail
****Clark returns home and finds that Pa Kent has passed
****in space, Lex pillages some of Brainiac's technology
****Lex tries to turn a Brainaic laser on Clark to kill him, but Clark punches it back
****this is the last push Zod needs to justify an invasion of Earth to his troops
****as Zod invades, Lex dons his super armor
****Clark duels Zod, trying to force him back into the Phantom Zone (Jimmy Olsen and Lois are on support with the Projector)
****Lex arrives and snaps Zod's neck, claiming that now he's the superhero
****Clark duels Lex and disables his supersuit, ending the Kryptonian invasion.
*W2
**Superman, Vol. 3
***dealing with not being the only alien
***Martha has married Martian Manhunter
***vs Lobo
*W3
**Doom Patrol volume whatever
***Cyborg and Beast Boy join the team
*Justice League vol 1
**vs 
**following Justice League going their separate ways, Martian Manhunter is lonely and starts a second team. Maxwell Lord eventually funds the team.
***this team, JUSTICE LEAGUE ACTION:
****starting team:
*****Martian Manhunter, Booster Gold (comes back to save Batman from political assassinations), Guy Gardner (reject Green Lantern), Ice, Fire, Blue Beetle 1
******Black Canary joins soon?
*****Mr. Miracle and Big Barda could join at some point when they're done with the whole darkseid arc
****Justice League Action eventually spins-off into the Super Friends, Justice League of America, and Justice League International
*****people who join in this era - Captain Atom, Shazam, Gnort, 
**vs Prometheus - who leads a sort of supervillain league and protects them as their Batman. is naturally despised by Lex, which prompts him to go to the league for help taking him down 
*Teen Titans vol 1
**starting team: Donna Troy, 
**second team (reformation): Dick Grayson, Cyborg, Starfire, Raven, Beast Boy
*Throne of Atlantis
**the team heads to Atlantis
**Clark brings Lois and Jimmy along - but this kind of sours, when Clark runs into Lori Lemaris again
**maybe while Throne of Atlantis happens, Teen Titans happens, because TO Morrow attacks with his Red Tornado twins?
*Jason Todd death - leads to Knightfall, as Bruce gets too preoccupied
*Teen Titans vol. whatever - rebrands to Titans? - Dick becomes Nightwing
*Green Arrow undertaking
*JLU? goes here? with Flash trying to recruit Green Arrow to the Watchtower
*Flashpoint pt. 1
*Flashpoint pt. 2
*Infinite Crisis/Doomsday Clock
**the Question (Earth-2) works with Bruce to help deduce the existence of a Doc Manhattan
*post-Infinite Crisis - 
**Flash - Wally West deals with taking the mantle of his deceased mentor.
***Cisco deals with the expectation of having to fill other people's shoes - he isn't a lab assistant. in his previous world he was a celebrity/gang leader. at least, until Barry found him, but now he's gone
***Wally breaks up with Artemis Crock? this gives her a brief villain arc, as she feels alone, and betrays GA to go free her parents/sister
**Power Girl - Power Girl is one of the few characters, along with maybe Psycho Pirate, to retain their knowledge of the events that transpired? 
**Question vol. 2
**Starro on Corto Maltese
***basically "The Suicide Squad" movie x "
=== Event Pitches ===
==== Crisis ====
* Wonder Woman/Black Canary learn how their mothers were sueprheroes
== Series Pitches ==
* Batgirl
** Jim dates Sarah Essen
** eventually becomes Birds of Prey
** maybe a "Batgirls" comic? the first villain could be James Gordon Jr?
** Batgirl eventually introduces Huntress? she joins the League but clashes with Green Arrow and Batman over things like Prometheus
* Batman
** Knightfall
*** HUGE event for Bats.
*** includes:
**** Assault on Arkham
***** Batman joins TSS using the disguise of "Black Spider"
***** Joker takes over Arkham Asylum and Batman is stuck inside, having to fight his way out
***** the Arkhamites get freed by Bane
**** Bane
***** Batman tries to recollect
***** the General becomes a force on the streets of Gotham. maybe Anarky too
***** Bane beats the fuck out of Batman
**** Knightquest
***** Azrael subs in as Batman
***** Bruce returns
***** Superman disguises himself in Batman's costume to defeat Bane (organized by Nightwing) - but Bruce arrives and tells Clark that he needs to handle this one himself. Clark agrees, but says he'll step in if things get too rough to save him. Bruce says he wouldn't have it any other way.
***** Bruce defeats Bane 
**** Tim Drake becomes Robin?
* Black Canary
** gets a Green Lantern ring?
* The Flash
** vol 1: getting powers
** ok, ideas.
*** Reverse Flash does the meta storm from Flash tv show. then he gets some team-ups with Sugar & Spike, and Firestorm, helping them reign in the metahumans for star labs
*** Rogues form
*** Flash of Two Worlds story (not a whole volume) in a first duel with Reverse Flash or something, Flash learns how to jump timelines by vibrating at a different speed. Jay Garrick takes him to Cisco (who is a universal constant) and they help him navigate home
**** this Cisco is the OG comic one where he was a gang leader. Jay Garrick helps Barry recreate the metastorm to empower Cisco
**** Icicle is here, with his son. Icicle is sad at being so old, but when he learns that the Flash can time travel... he teams up with Reverse Flash to ruin Flash's life, and abandons his son to time travel to Earth-1. (in the past, he becomes Thomas Snow... Caitlin Snow's dad!)
*** Flashpoint
**** Barry's dad's murder trial is coming up
**** Reverse Flash is revealed to be Harrison Wells - maybe when Flash defeats the Thinker?
**** Reverse Flash attacks + kills Cisco (!?). 
***** Cisco will eventually return to this timeline through Infinite Crisis?
**** emotional Barry can't possibly win. then Eddie Thawne sacrifices himself, divorcing Reverse Flash from the timeline
**** Barry tries to talk to Superman about having power but not being able to save people (is Pa Kent already dead?)
****Barry, in his grief, goes back in time to try and save his mom, thus starting Flashpoint
*****the Reverse Flash is revealed to have survived, and followed Barry back in time, where he prevented Batman from being born and caused Superman to be abducted. he takes the name Paradox.
****Barry returns to the present, grieving but accepting history has been written.
** eventually we do The Flash of Two Worlds?
*** maybe he goes too fast at the wrong frequency during a fight with Reverse Flash?
*Gotham City Sirens
*Green Arrow
**vol 1 - Lian Yu
**Count Vertigo is a rich bastard who's been funding things like the Undertaking (not for the League of Assassins, but because he simply wants to gentrify areas like Starling City). Merlyn works for him, and maybe the League, but doesn't really apply his master-level archery skills.
***Oliver meets Princess Perdita. Count Vertigo murdered Perdita's parents to try and steal the crown
**vs the 9th Circle, who fund supervillains across the world like a villain bank. maybe, at this point, Merlyn joins to teach other supervillains?
*Green Lantern
**training
***trip to planet Volkreg, where he saves Tajz? Tajz eventually makes his way to Earth and becomes the criminal boss Goldface
**when to introduce Razer? as a member of the Training Corps? as a civilian GL interacts with?
*GL/GA: Hard-Travelling Heroes
*Hellblazer
**one vol where he ends up "down under" in Australia? this could intro Tasmanian Devil and Tuatara
*Justice League
**vs Starro? or move that to Suicide Squad
**vs the Centre (New Frontier)
**vs Vandal Savage? or move that to Legends 
**lineups:
***"Wanna Make something of it?" - Doctor Fate, Guy Gardner, Shazam, Doctor Light, Blue Beetle 2, Batman, Martian Manhunter, Oberon, Mr. Miracle, Black Canary
**retool the Justice League Europe lineup?
***(it's Flash, Power Girl, Metamorpho, Animal Man, Captain Atom, Elongated Man, Wonder Woman)
**possible second gen lineup:
***Superman/Kenan Kong, Swamp Thing/Levi Kamei, Captain Marvel/Billy Batson, Sandstorm/Nabil Azmah, Wonder Woman Yara Flor, Batwing/David Zavimbe, Martian Manunter, Manitou Dawn, Madame Xanadu, Green Lantern Simon BAz, Snapper Car.
**what to do with... Super Friends and the Global Guardians?
*Robin
**solo series
**vs Mad Hatter
* Shazam!
** eventually dates Stargirl/Courtney Whitmore
*Stargirl
**debuts in Earth-JSA
**becomes friends with Artemis Crock
*Sugar & Spike
*Suicide Squad
**label each event as "Operation"?
**Operation: Trial by Fire - origins; vs Brimstone
**Operation: Corto Maltese - vs Starro, like in TSS movie
**Operation: - assault on arkham
**Operation: - Enchantress goes crazy like in the 2016 Suicide Squad movie
*Supergirl
**kidnapped by Symon Tycho like in N52 - maybe Simon Tycho is in Luthor's shadow, wants to use Supergirl to get out of it?
*Superman
**Lex's supersuits
***Lois eventually gets her own
**Maxima saga
***Maxima comes to kidnap Superman because she needs to mate to repopulate her species, and doesn't want to mate with Ultraa
****maybe she eventually finds a way to get pregnant with her lover Primaa or something
*Teen Titans
**members who join:
***Argent
***Jessie Quick
***Tempest (Garth)
*The Terrifics
*Wonder Woman
**Mod Wonder Woman
**kung-fu/spy period
**vs Ares - Ares is searching for the godkiller, which is presumed to be a sword. that is actually WW as a person
**one of her first modern day adventures could be versus Blue Snowman?
* Maxwell Lord forms the Super Buddies, which ends traumatically, which Batman integrates as the JLI (sort of an extension of Stormwatch, to counter the Suicide Squad before the Outsiders)
* teams:
** Shadowpact?
==== Endgame Pitches ====
* Artemis Crock goes to a bit of villainy after Wally breaks up with her, has a romance with Icicle Jr, and then a love triangle between Icicle Jr and Jason Bard (GCPD detective). Icicle Sr kills her parents
* After both Batman and Damian refuse to lead the League of Assassins, Ra's al Ghul takes Talia's body like in Batman Beyond
* Guy Gardner transitions to Gal Gardner, and becomes a Blue Lantern.
* Matrix gets killed and splits, with her DNA goingn to a teenager (the future Linda Danvers Supergirl) and then her soul going to heaven to be an angel? and Supergirl deals with this new teenage Supergirl by... exploring growing up
* Krypton eventually gets un-shrunk when Brainiac falls in love with Supergirl
** Lesla-Lar becoms the evil Supergirl out of spite?
== Character Ideas ==
* Air Wave - maybe make him the Hal Jordan of Earth-JSA? to prove that he really did have the willpower to become a superhero
* Atomic Knight - receives a vision of the future and decides to become a superhero
* Atomic Skull - Superman villain... go down the route that he wants to be immortal and turns himself into the Atomic Skull?
** SKULL could be a STAR Labs wing that works for him
* Brain Storm
* Cameron Chase
* Catman
* Cheetah/Barbara Ann Minerva - adventurer who basically wants to *be* Wonder Woman?
* Damage
* Dr Poison
* Floronic Man - debuts w Poison Ivy as Jason Woodrue, but later gets turned into FLoronic Man in a Swamp Thing issue?
* Grid
* Hazaard
* Hypnota
* Jenni Crisis
* Jenny Sparks
* Judo Master
* Kobra
* Marilyn Moonlight
* Polka Dot Man
* Red Canary - gets inspired by Black Canary... maybe during the Robin war?
* Roland Daggett
* Sideways
* Slipknot
* Tasmanian Devil - go with the magic origin
* Tuatara - Taz's friend
* The Thinker
** from Earth-JSA, and uses his Thinking Cap to project himselfl into Earth-1?
*White Dragon
* White Magician - WW enemy
* Wonder Twins - get to intern at the Hall of Justice
* Wrath and Scorn
* Amazonians
** Emelie
* Batman rogues
** Clownhunter/Bao Pham
** Ghostmaker/Minhkhoa Khan - trained with many of Batman's same tutors
*Batman supporting cast
**Lucius Fox
***Jace Fox
**Nocturna
*Flash supporting cast
**Linda Park
**Rogues:
***Amunet Rogue
***Goldface - do the origin where he is effected by the Green Lantern Corps doing some cosmic training?
***Pied Piper
*League of Assassins
**Flatline
**Henri Ducard - French detective who trains Bruce in Paris and leads him to the League?
**Nobody/Morgan Ducard
**Ubu
*Martians
**Martian Manhunter - poses as Calvin Swanwick
*New Gods
**Apokolips
***G Glorious Godfrey
**New Genesis
*Red Lanterns
**Dex-Starr
*Speed Force
**Folded Man?
*STAR Labs
**Atomic Skull
* Superman supporting cast
** Bibbo Bibbowski
** Morgan Edge
*** make him Tal-Rho? 
** Professor Hamilton
** Almeracians
*** Maxima
*** Ultraa
*** Primaa
** Kandorians
*** Lesla-Lar - Supergirl doppelganger and antagonist who manages to get unshrunk
*Supergirl supporting cast
**Matrix - clone, form the time she was kidnapped by Simon Tycho?
**Silver Banshee/Siobhan Smythe - roommate, eventually dates Jimmy Olsen?
*team arrow:
**Sin
*Tim Drake supporting cast
**Bernard Dowd https://x.com/starryrobins/status/1774444348110692682
**Darla Aquista p dauhter of a Gotham mob boss, becomes the Warlock's Daughter
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*second generation:
**Batman/Jace Fox - becomes the third Batman when Dick Grayson retires
**Boyzarro
**Gold Beetle
**Kathy Branden/Beacon - childhood friend to Jon Kent
**Lena Luthor II - daughter of Lex Luthor, companion to Jon Kent
**Maya Ducard
**Trinity/Elizabeth Prince
*Batman Beyond
**Blight - Terry's dad's boss
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=== Earth-JSA ===
* Amazing-Man/Will Everett
* Cyclone/Maxine Hunkel - granddaughter of Ma Hunkel
* Icicle - Earth-JSA's version of Captain Cold
* Icicle Jr - Icicle's son, has his powers naturally
* Infinity Inc team!
* KGBeast?
* Red Tornado/Ma Hunkel
=== New Earth (Earth-JSA + og Earth) ===
* Amazing-Man/Will Everett III or Markus Clay - either way, the grandson of the original Amazing-Man
=== Far Future (Legion of Superheroes) ===
* Cosmic Boy/Rokk Krinn
* Lightning Lad and Lightning Lass
* Shrinking Violet
* Timber Wolf
character bank:
* Atlas
* Raof
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