Report 726

Report #726
Skillset: Telekinesis Skill: Burst
 Org: Aquamancers Status: Completed Dec 2011
Furies' Decision:
We will investigate implementing Solution 2.
Problem: Burst vessels are the required affliction for the Telekinesis insta,
Heartburst. 12 or more are needed for the kill to be succesful. It becomes a
problem keeping up with the vessels when the number of ways a Telekinetic can
hinder curing veseels, the lack of an afflicting line, and lack of a curing line
come into play. The problem is exacerbated when you add in more Telekinetics.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #1: Add an afflicting line showing the exact number of
 vessels hit with when hit with Burst.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #2: Add a cure line indicating how many vessels were
 cured. With another message indicating fully healing
 vessels.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #3: Both Solution 1 and 2.
Player Comments:
---[Rivius on 11/2 @ 01:17 writes]:
I'd be in support of Solution 2 more than Solution 1. I think the ideal solution
would be to allow us to know when we have cured a vessel, but not the amount.
This gives a little more transparency to the skill and allows us to switch
priorities faster (to say, sipping mana to replenish from the clotting).
---[Rivius on 11/2 @ 01:57 writes]:
In the event that the above mentioned idea is perceived to have too much of an
effect on strategically using clots, perhaps only a message when all are cured.
Such as "The potion heals and soothes you.\\Your circulatory system regains full
efficiency".\
---[Shuyin on 11/2 @ 08:43 writes]:
Solution 2 is probably the only thing that's truly needed. Just a line stating
that you cured one vessel. -Maybe- a different line when you're fully cured of
vessels.
---[Xenthos on 11/5 @ 01:49 writes]:
I fully approve of the idea of a cure line (saying you cured one / have cured
them all). At that point, you still have to diagnose to see how many you have
(and if you have to run) so it doesn't affect the actual build process at all,
just makes the system end of it less of a complication. Balance-wise that seems
good. Personally, I also would like it if it said how many were given, but
that's probably going too far.
---[Donovain on 11/6 @ 21:24 writes]:
I think solution 2 is totally reasonable, but solution 1 is a bit much. I see no
reason why we can't have a line for curing one vessel and a line for totally
curing vessels
---[Ixion on 11/8 @ 09:37 writes]:
It would be nice for curing systems to be able to track this simply with aff
lines, but I don't think this is really needed. TK- if you see tons of TK
attacks you should diagnose, which is under 1s eq loss and tells you exactly how
many you have. Compare to say, a warrior, where you don't know how many and what
level your wounds are specifically but you can do WOUNDS which is also under 1s
to get an exact reading. I would say this is where some measure of skill comes
into play about knowing when you're getting hurt put on you and
diagnosing/woundsing/etc.
---[Shuyin on 11/8 @ 23:40 writes]:
Cure lines, however are definitely needed since all afflictions barring this one
have them
---[Ixion on 11/9 @ 06:03 writes]:
I'm fine with that as long as they're generic cure lines, no issues with a cure
all line when you cure the final one either. So long as it's not telling you how
many are left I can support this.
---[Rivius on 11/10 @ 15:50 writes]:
I agree with Ixion. As long as it doesn't tell you how many you have, it's fine.
But a generic cure line is necessary.
---[Wobou on 12/6 @ 05:20 writes]:
This is a fairly major nerf to bloodclot sticking, which I've always considered
the most finessed TK strategy, which is a shame. As Xenthos noted it wouldn't
impact the build of the traditional burst/stun build at all which to me is the
most imbalancing with TKs. That being said I agree with the sentiment that all
afflictions should have cure lines, and a cure line would limit the
effectiveness of the common TP tactic of burst illusions.
---[Rivius on 12/7 @ 22:29 writes]:
Perhaps as a compromise for clot sticking, we can simply put a message every
time you sip health and you have vessels on you. This message would show
regardless of whether a vessel was protected by the clot or not. This would help
people in not "overestimating" how many vessels they have and be able to shift
their priorities when necessary.
---[Janalon on 12/14 @ 11:31 writes]:
I also agree with the need for a curing/cured line message that doesn't give
away more information than it should. I don't outright support any of the
aff/cure line messages giving very refined numbers. Save that for a diagnose.