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 Wowweeeee what a freaking past two weeks I've had eh?!
First...some breakfast!!!!
No coffee for me today... just yummy oatmeal. 
Nervous energy pumped through me right up until the surgery, then I felt like I got run over by a truck when I came out. Then Vertigo...and now here I am..glad to be alive and well! They found out I had hyperextended my knee by ten degrees during the surgery. Probably from trying to prove myself to the boys in the kitchen I work at. All my fault, but at least there's no pain.
 
So now what am I gonna do with my life? I'm gonna grab it by the freakin horns! :D
Gonna start on Slimming World again to lose the weight I gained from being off my feet. And going for daily walks, doing physio to get moving again. I danced AND sang in the shower last night. I'm just so so happy!! Oh and I'm starting to cook again! Oh man have I missed cooking!
 
And how does this tie into Wildstar? It ties into my guild that I lead and the guild that I love.
I'm becoming more organized, did a purge the other day of inactives still need to do more but we're at a nice 200 members now! I'm starting dungeons and adventures today..yesterday I was too busy dancing around. When I'm happy I dance...
 
And who better to dance with than friends?!
 
Over and out, lovelies!!!
Niliana
 
 	
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Heyoh Nil,
 
I wasnt in the dance so sad chua is sad :( people may think that shot was staged and i can honestly say thats just a normal day in Venus Rising everytime i go into Illium there messing about on that podium :P usually in greater numbers :P
 
Glad to hear your on the up after the knee best form of healing is to stay happy they say :D
 
As for mee just boring toast with MARMITE :3 and now onto editing some PvP videos i got from last night and will be uploading my weekly nexus news report in a couple of hours yeerrr my internets slow specially for uploading a 5 min video takes about 2 hours to upload XD
 
Hope you all have a great day and stay frosty peeps
 
Sparkie	
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Heyoh Nil,
 
I wasnt in the dance so sad chua is sad :( people may think that shot was staged and i can honestly say thats just a normal day in Venus Rising everytime i go into Illium there messing about on that podium :P usually in greater numbers :P
 
Glad to hear your on the up after the knee best form of healing is to stay happy they say :D
 
As for mee just boring toast with MARMITE :3 and now onto editing some PvP videos i got from last night and will be uploading my weekly nexus news report in a couple of hours yeerrr my internets slow specially for uploading a 5 min video takes about 2 hours to upload XD
 
Hope you all have a great day and stay frosty peeps
 
Sparkie
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Good Morning everybody!
 
Not a whole lot on the wildstar front, was going to play a bit last night, but got a phone call from the bank instead that there were charges from another state on my account, so spent a lil while on the phone trying to get all that resolved.  Hopefully everything is fixed now.  Got an early morning this morning, but making best of it.  I did manage to get Cycotik to level 45 so I could add a couple more plugs to the Blazing Saddles Skyfortress, which is going to be amazing once we can get some more time to work on it.  Going to have pretty much all evening thursday to work on powerleveling Cycotik to 50, so hoping I can actually do that.
 
Hope you all have a great morning  =)	
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You can dance on hover boards (mounts)?  Who knew?
 
Glad you are feeling better Nili! :D
 
For food ... "Toad in the hole". Yum! ;)	
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			Good morning, coffee people! How's the science?First, I am glad you are feeling fantastic, Niliana! Most patients who undergo major surgery tend to mope for weeks on end and call over and over asking when they'll get better. Truth of the matter is we don't know! Depends on the patient's physiology.Life news? I am going to the theater this evening to enjoy "The Graduate". That's about it. Since there's nothing of interest to say, I will get the cat tax out of the way right now.In WildStar news, I plowed through Galeras and Whitevale. Today is Farside and hopefully I will be able to plow through it from start to finish people heading to the theater. That is the plan!More to do! More to do! Also, more to do! 	
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Good Morning Everyone!
 
So good to have you back and feeling so much better Niliana! :) I also dance and sing when I am in a good mood. My hubby is used to it, but my boss still thinks I am weird lol.
 
Breakfast was toast with cream cheese and ham, and coffee. Nothing really exciting, but filling and yummy.
 
Played Wildstar last night. Didn't level any though. I decided to change my professions to survivalist and architect, so had to go level up my tree gathering. I am so excited with the outside/inside decor limit increase! I don't know, yet, what I am doing with this house. Will think about it while I get my currency up.
 
Hope you all have a wonderful day!
 
P.S. Boogieing in your chair is totally acceptable :P	
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Good morning peoples, and good to know you've recovered well, Niliana :)
 
Decided to have quick breakfast this morning as was in bit of a hurry:
 
 
Got up early this morning to move to the apartment my bro and I will be using for the start of college (my bro's also doing animation), already feels like the holidays never happened! Some new students will be turning up this year, looking forward to getting to know them and their art styles.
 
As for Wildstar, got to take part in raid for first time, got tails whipped a lot but was cozmotronic experience! After eventually defeating a genetic monstrosity, we decided to call it a day and try raiding the archives again on a later date. Hopefully be making more progress next time!
 	
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Glad you're back and feeling great, Nils!
 
I didn't even really get to log in until 1130 last night, what with the Nexus Report TL;DR, cooking dinner, coming home late anyway, having to run some more forum messages, then finally getting into the game.  Luckily, Vanica and Thedek were there to keep me company in the wee hours of the morning.  Today, I've got someone interested in the guild that I'm going to give a bit more in-depth information to.  I have to do a purge of inactives (we have 200 accounts and about 10-20 people on most times)
 
I also want to thank everyone.  Seriously, we are having some oldtime RP vets leave due to whatever issues they're having, and sometimes I can feel like I'm on an island.  I'm actually looking forward to the server merges so we can maybe get some more veterans that weren't serious enough about RP to RP, but will take part once the merges happen.  I guess after doing the things I've taken on as responsibilities sometimes, especially when I log in too late to see many people, I can sometimes feel like I shouldered veteran duties for a large chunk of the game.  I feel like, before the megaserver merges even happen, we have to deal with a crisis within our own community of people giving up and running for the hills.  We lost a couple people with a lot of forum credit, people who knew how this all worked that could have helped when the merges come through, people who could have been here to talk about RP phasing and get the RP community tools we want.  Sometimes, I feel like the last person who wasn't defeated simply by the concept of server merges.
 
But then I remember how many other GMs are out there, still thriving, and how many of my own guildies there are that have taken an active interest in building our brand.  The people here in the coffee thread who take leadership roles.  People like Nils, Norah, and Nephele.  People like Rocio, who runs RP events tirelessly for Aurin and is a great asset to the Saddles.  My officers, Cyco and Ina, who are doing so much to give me the helping hand I need to handle all of this.  I didn't see myself becoming some kind of community elder; I've always been a little esoteric for my own tastes.  But I've got people like Olivar keeping me grounded, and yes, even non-RPers on these forums that just say thank you every now and then and tell me that, even if they disagree with me, they respect what I have to say.
 
And then, it's all worth it.  I hope some of our disgruntled vets come back one day; the community would like to have them back.  But with this guild?  These people?  This community?  This game?  I'm looking forward to it all.  I want to have one of the biggest and best guilds on the megaserver so that, when people see our guild tag all over Thayd, they'll look and know we don't just play, we RP, and we have fun.  I want to keep up the information and work on the forums, so that the game is better for everyone everywhere.  And most of all, I want to see people having fun, because the second that they are, you feel like it's all been worth it.
 
So I'll raise a coffee to this community, to the pioneers that stayed to build this town I live in the way we want to build it, and to all the non-RPers that cheered us on and supported us in the endeavor.  This one's for all of you.  If missing a game day just so even a handful of people get more out of the game, it's a day I'm willing to give every single week until the game is gone.
 
 
Thanks for being a really special community, and for sticking it out with me.  I just keep thinking, if you guys are willing to stick it out with me, and to be as active and indestructible as you are, I don't think the megaservers can come fast enough.  There aren't better people on Nexus than you guys, and the more of you I see appearing, the more new names and new faces that come and see what we're doing and get involved, the more I feel like megaservers were never our problem.
 
Looking forward to being in the game tonight!  As soon as my guild stuff and recruitment is sorted, I'm going to see about either starting on our skyfortress or running some more endgame content.  For all the Blazing Saddles, make sure you drop by our guild forums, under general discussion, and read our rough draft of the lore.  I'm already fielding a lot of very helpful questions for the next draft and receiving a lot of positive feedback!  Especially from the potential candidate!  As soon as we've got things settled out, I'm going to purge the inactive members and go on a recruitment drive.  I want our guild tag to be everywhere, so ubiquitous over the heads of great and helpful players that, even after the merger, everyone knows exactly who we are!	
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			I think there is hope. Maybe. At the moment, we still are Evindra and the leveling process is uneventful. However, I find that as soon as a second person is in the leveling zone, everything slows down because it appears that you get quest credit percentage based on damage done to a monster. Could be wrong but it sure feels like that. What happens when there's a dozen people? Bad things. I really -REALLY- have to rush to 50 this time around. Not to mention that I do not do anything else while leveling.Guild seems to be doing okay regardless of faction. Hopefully things will start to pick up again.	
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I think there is hope. Maybe. At the moment, we still are Evindra and the leveling process is uneventful. However, I find that as soon as a second person is in the leveling zone, everything slows down because it appears that you get quest credit percentage based on damage done to a monster. Could be wrong but it sure feels like that. What happens when there's a dozen people? Bad things. I really -REALLY- have to rush to 50 this time around. Not to mention that I do not do anything else while leveling.
 
Guild seems to be doing okay regardless of faction. Hopefully things will start to pick up again.
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However, I find that as soon as a second person is in the leveling zone, everything slows down because it appears that you get quest credit percentage based on damage done to a monster. Could be wrong but it sure feels like that. What happens when there's a dozen people? Bad things. 
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The "contribution percentage" is calculated on a mob by mob basis.  If someone is in the zone just standing there, you should notice no difference at all.  However if someone starts helping you kill things, then yes, they'll get some contribution credit based on how much damage they do (roughly -- the calculation might be more complicated than that.  Otherwise there could be griefing by high level characters killing mobs in low level areas while someone is trying to level).  
 
I find that if someone is also killing the earth gronyx in Crimson Badlands for the Boulders to Pebbles quest, it definitely takes additional time.  On the plus side, things die faster so your quest completion time at that point is more variable on respawn times, and travel times between mobs.
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Well it was another event day at the Wilderrun Ruins, Rocio's home town!
 
I know Vic says I tirelessly run events but that's not quite true any more. At first maybe When I was recruiting and setting things up. Bit the Tribe is like a big fish that's taking the line off the reel and I have to reel them in and then give them some slack only to have them run the line again.
 
Part of the plot line is now public. Rocio hasn't been seen at all in Thayd for days. There's his event Sunday which is going to prove more eventful than is healthy....
 
He held a meeting to apologize for all the trouble and remind the tribe of the reason for their existing and to welcome a new member. Many laughs were had and Rocio promoted a new officer to the rank of Beta. 
 
He was so happy he went to cuddle with his wife and tried to sing her into the mood with an offkey version of "Chantilly Lace" but they were interrupted when Rocio's new eye arrived. Elora insisted he try it out and he was happy that he could properly see his love again.
 
Rocio knows he's taking a risk with his life, having another public communion. Though the official bounty posters say "Lilaac" I was late to work because Rocio had been pulled aside to be told that rumors were that there is an unofficial bounty on his head as well.
 
In addition, there is strong friction in the tribe.	
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Definitely this, and you can get through them a LOT faster because two players tend to be able to kill things more than twice as fast in big packs.  Because of buffs and the nature of burst damage, damage scales higher with additional players.
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Well IMHO not NECESSARILY faster.  It's gated by how long it takes you to get from target to target and how fast they respawn. On the one hand, you may be better off soloing because the rate of travel + regrowth is longer.  Again, with stone gronyx in CB, it can go from "eh, can get this done in relatively short order" to "OMG WHEN WILL THIS END" if there is a lot of "help".  On the other hand, spiders in the same area are somewhat less like this because they respawn like crazy and are in a tightly compacted area so two people can burn through very fast and keep killing.  On the gripping hand (bonus points if someone knows that reference) the amount of spiders you need to kill is much higher ANYway, so it's very easy to get to the "WHEN WILL THIS END?" point even if you're soloing and plowing through them, so you might not even notice it going faster :-).
 
Another location for the "OMG CARBINE WHY" award is the quest to kill the birds for the Big Game Hunters in Wilderrun.  The other kill quests are very easy to accomplish just while going around doing other things.  The ravok are really only in one area, slow respawn, and JUST far enough apart that it's aggravating to get from one to the other, and all it takes is one additional player on that quest in that area to slow things down to a miserable crawl.  I've actually submitted /bug reports on the Ravok portion of Wilderrun because it is unusually miserable compared to the other kill quests in that chain.
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Good morning everyone.
 
Today is another busy day irl for me so I don't have much to talk about.  With luck, there will be some Wildstar tonight.  But it makes me very happy and proud of our community to be able to log in and see the positivity in this thread before I head off to corporate servitude for the day :)
 
You guys are great.
 
Off I go now, but I'll leave you with this:
 
- If your class had some sort of over-the-top "ultimate attack" with a massive cooldown, what would it look like?	
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			Something akin to Jean "Phoenix" Grey's ability to dissolve enemies.	
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It might be just the combinations I run that with.  When I did that on Seeger, I thought it was easier because I just so happened to hit that challenge by coincidence with an Esper.  The Esper was gathering them and bringing them to me to dust off, including grabbing a couple primes, then healing me between damage.  That went insanely quick.
 
It's also important, with 2 or more people, to get the primes down.  They're worth a lot and they tend to take more time than they're worth solo.  Duo, though, you can make quick and significant progress, and they're all over that particular area.
 
The bigger population-related issue is with challenges.  You can start a challenge, then run into the wake another player leaves behind on his own merry way.  During launch, that was my problem, not speed but even getting a bronze because I'd just hit this dead area another player not in my party would leave behind.  Once we linked up in a party and swept an area like a swarm of locusts, it was much easier, but it could be so hard if people are all soloing on their own to get challenges done.
 
Totally worth it, though, if we get enough people together to smoke world bosses at level on a routine basis.  Worth so much EXP, those bosses...
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Good morning everyone.
 
Today is another busy day irl for me so I don't have much to talk about.  With luck, there will be some Wildstar tonight.  But it makes me very happy and proud of our community to be able to log in and see the positivity in this thread before I head off to corporate servitude for the day :)
 
You guys are great.
 
Off I go now, but I'll leave you with this:
 
- If your class had some sort of over-the-top "ultimate attack" with a massive cooldown, what would it look like?
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True enough, and it varies a lot from quest to quest, depending on what the amount needed to complete is.  I think it probably also depends a bit on whether the people are partied together.  There may be an "unparty" tax on contribution.  Again for example, during dailies there are a lot of singleton players killing things in various areas.  You still get some credit if there's "help" from each other, but it definitely DOES help to be a bursty class for that, because your fraction of contribution is higher in the time it takes to kill the mob.  For example, I hate getting help on my engineer, as that class tends to be a slow builder with good sustain.  My esper doesn't care, because pewpewpewBOOM and she gets most of the credit even with "help".
 
So, your mileage may vary :-).
 
The challenge issue was definitely noticeable during the opening weeks and I had that same thought.  Less of an issue now with fewer people in leveling zones.	
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To Vic:
 
- Always hang in there, until you find you're not enjoying the leadership anymore.  I know a while ago I wrote up a bunch of thoughts on guild management somewhere, when a number of guilds were struggling, and maybe there's a good bit or two in there.  But the bottom line is - things always ebb and flow, you always have awesome times and rockier times, and the real test is what you do in the rocky times.  You're listening to your membership, you're learning from the decisions you make and how they work out, and you're prioritizing what's best for your group.  Those are all the best things any leader can do - listen, learn, and focus.  As long as you keep doing those, the numbers will come.
 
- If it helps, this is an AWFUL time to be recruiting - 10-20 members on our server is probably pretty huge!  (Right now at *peak* hours, we're probably 10.)  I'm not really expecting much in the way of new members/recruitment until megaservers and some new players wind up in the game.  In our case, it's a combination of "not huge amounts of people in game looking for a guild" right now I think, combined with in our specific case being a *very* niche guild - RPers, *with* a specific theme (adventuring/archaeological society), not running huge amounts of vet content (though I'd like for us to someday), with an age limit, etc and so forth.  A lot of wickets to membership and that means we're already taking all the potential players and whittling them down to a small group.  So...yea.  Not ideal, but not unexpected.  AKA I wouldn't worry too much about recruiting atm, as long as your existing player base is active.  Of course, I think you guys are also a bit more open on recruiting than us, so YMMV.
 
- Also FWIW, you're in some senses in better shape in terms of sharing the management load!  I think my largest struggle right now is getting someone to help shoulder the load.   The up side of having a guild for "busy people" and the parents/full time workers/etc who want a more laid back and less intense experience is that you provide a home and a place for all those many, many people who can't devote the time and hours to a lot of the content - and we deserve guilds too!  The down side is I'm really struggling on the officer side of things.  Basically - lots of people love the place, but nobody has the time or energy to help officer and run things. :(  The most frequent reply when asked is, "Love the guild, but I've been an officer for X years in (other game) and right now, it's kind of nice just to be a player."  Heck, even my husband is in that position now!  Of my two active officer, both are struggling with free time to even play atm, as one is a teacher and school is back in session, and the other is actively on the job market.  The one promising lead I had is badly burned out on the game and not sure if they'll stay with it post-mega-server, and well...that's where I am.  The worst part is - I get where everyone is coming from, and I've even been there too - in fact, I pretty much said those things verbatim to my RIFT guild leader when approached about officering once upon a time, too.  So I completely sympathize with the either "too many demands on my time to do this well" or "thanks for asking, but need a break from management".  It just - means it's a lot for me to manage and while I'm fine for now, it's getting tough to balance the things I'd like to do for us with what I can do for us.  So hey, the fact you have two people actively helping you and allowing you to divvy up the work is a huge boon!  (And seriously, I've even debated the pros and cons of posting a greater, "Officers Wanted, Apply Within" note somewhere, but....I can't imagine a scenario where I could hire someone as an officer if they haven't even been in the guild to know how they get along with folks, how they like our culture, style, RP, etc.....so bleh.)
 
Oh, right, breakfast!  
 
Morning Tea:  Irish Breakfast.  (Tomorrow will, of course, be Scottish Morn, because - reasons.)
 
Morning Food:  Bad little elf, skipped entirely.  >.<  Debated a cookie, but decided I'm too old to justify a cookie for breakfast. :(  So waiting until 11am, cause - lunch!
 
In Game:  Got to hang out and RP some with some guildmates and other folks unexpectedly last night, which was fun.  Of course - ICly also terrifying!  I was on Lament, my ex-biologist who ah....has some pretty severe flashbacks and trauma from (things in her past) and has turned her back on all things scientific/medical in favor of basic pure, hard labor, only to log in and find someone injured and needing a doctor, and her the only one around.  Much hyperventilating and panic sweats ensued!  But was interesting, seeing her get thrown very much into a pool she never wanted to swim in again.  We'll see how it plays out.  (Personal note - I rarely script my characters, I have a background and then I like to see where they go as I play them.)
 
Today:  Guild meet-n-greet and RP at 9, otherwise may dabble a bit on Lammykins to get her to 21-22 (or just muck around with professions), may push esper-Nora to 14 for housing.  Some day I will break 25 on someone!  Really! 
 
Out of Game:  Reading the final draft of a thesis, helping mentor a grad student on research, then off to mother-in-laws to help her excavate the laundry room and possibly study.
 
 
 
 
 	
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I have no real time to game tonight so I'll stay offline and let my crazy guild members deepen their drama.
 
I logged in this morning with 6 messages in his Inbox mostly Ooc with a scary IC one. Seriously have no idea what happens overnight. >…>	
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To Vic:
 
- Always hang in there, until you find you're not enjoying the leadership anymore.  I know a while ago I wrote up a bunch of thoughts on guild management somewhere, when a number of guilds were struggling, and maybe there's a good bit or two in there.  But the bottom line is - things always ebb and flow, you always have awesome times and rockier times, and the real test is what you do in the rocky times.  You're listening to your membership, you're learning from the decisions you make and how they work out, and you're prioritizing what's best for your group.  Those are all the best things any leader can do - listen, learn, and focus.  As long as you keep doing those, the numbers will come.
 
- If it helps, this is an AWFUL time to be recruiting - 10-20 members on our server is probably pretty huge!  (Right now at *peak* hours, we're probably 10.)  I'm not really expecting much in the way of new members/recruitment until megaservers and some new players wind up in the game.  In our case, it's a combination of "not huge amounts of people in game looking for a guild" right now I think, combined with in our specific case being a *very* niche guild - RPers, *with* a specific theme (adventuring/archaeological society), not running huge amounts of vet content (though I'd like for us to someday), with an age limit, etc and so forth.  A lot of wickets to membership and that means we're already taking all the potential players and whittling them down to a small group.  So...yea.  Not ideal, but not unexpected.  AKA I wouldn't worry too much about recruiting atm, as long as your existing player base is active.  Of course, I think you guys are also a bit more open on recruiting than us, so YMMV.
 
- Also FWIW, you're in some senses in better shape in terms of sharing the management load!  I think my largest struggle right now is getting someone to help shoulder the load.   The up side of having a guild for "busy people" and the parents/full time workers/etc who want a more laid back and less intense experience is that you provide a home and a place for all those many, many people who can't devote the time and hours to a lot of the content - and we deserve guilds too!  The down side is I'm really struggling on the officer side of things.  Basically - lots of people love the place, but nobody has the time or energy to help officer and run things. :(  The most frequent reply when asked is, "Love the guild, but I've been an officer for X years in (other game) and right now, it's kind of nice just to be a player."  Heck, even my husband is in that position now!  Of my two active officer, both are struggling with free time to even play atm, as one is a teacher and school is back in session, and the other is actively on the job market.  The one promising lead I had is badly burned out on the game and not sure if they'll stay with it post-mega-server, and well...that's where I am.  The worst part is - I get where everyone is coming from, and I've even been there too - in fact, I pretty much said those things verbatim to my RIFT guild leader when approached about officering once upon a time, too.  So I completely sympathize with the either "too many demands on my time to do this well" or "thanks for asking, but need a break from management".  It just - means it's a lot for me to manage and while I'm fine for now, it's getting tough to balance the things I'd like to do for us with what I can do for us.  So hey, the fact you have two people actively helping you and allowing you to divvy up the work is a huge boon!  (And seriously, I've even debated the pros and cons of posting a greater, "Officers Wanted, Apply Within" note somewhere, but....I can't imagine a scenario where I could hire someone as an officer if they haven't even been in the guild to know how they get along with folks, how they like our culture, style, RP, etc.....so bleh.)
 
Oh, right, breakfast!  
 
Morning Tea:  Irish Breakfast.  (Tomorrow will, of course, be Scottish Morn, because - reasons.)
 
Morning Food:  Bad little elf, skipped entirely.  >.<  Debated a cookie, but decided I'm too old to justify a cookie for breakfast. :(  So waiting until 11am, cause - lunch!
 
In Game:  Got to hang out and RP some with some guildmates and other folks unexpectedly last night, which was fun.  Of course - ICly also terrifying!  I was on Lament, my ex-biologist who ah....has some pretty severe flashbacks and trauma from (things in her past) and has turned her back on all things scientific/medical in favor of basic pure, hard labor, only to log in and find someone injured and needing a doctor, and her the only one around.  Much hyperventilating and panic sweats ensued!  But was interesting, seeing her get thrown very much into a pool she never wanted to swim in again.  We'll see how it plays out.  (Personal note - I rarely script my characters, I have a background and then I like to see where they go as I play them.)
 
Today:  Guild meet-n-greet and RP at 9, otherwise may dabble a bit on Lammykins to get her to 21-22 (or just muck around with professions), may push esper-Nora to 14 for housing.  Some day I will break 25 on someone!  Really! 
 
Out of Game:  Reading the final draft of a thesis, helping mentor a grad student on research, then off to mother-in-laws to help her excavate the laundry room and possibly study.
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I have no real time to game tonight so I'll stay offline and let my crazy guild members deepen their drama.
 
I logged in this morning with 6 messages in his Inbox mostly Ooc with a scary IC one. Seriously have no idea what happens overnight. >…>
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Not sure about group questing. I know when the game first launched, there were issues with go get me this many of this kind of quests where we had to each pick up our own. And most kill quests had us at different percentages even though we killed the same amount. The percentage thing seems to work better when not grouped. Unless they fixed it, which I haven't seen anything stating they did.
 
As for 'helping', I don't really care if someone comes along, as long as they need them too. If they are just out there to farm for whatever, then get out of my area because I am farming for mats along with doing my quests.
 
I am having issues leveling me Exile character and I think it's because I do not see many people in the area I am in. I like having a lot of people around when I quest. Just makes the world seem alive for me and I enjoy it much more. So looking forward to the megaserver.	
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Yeah, without Ina and Cyco, I'd have had a nervous breakdown by now.  They're the best, handling PVE and PVP content and questions, and Cyco even offering to host the skyfortress.  That helps so much.
 
I guess I felt bad last night, like I was home and couldn't even log in and missed everyone.  Had that moment of, "Some GM I am.  I missed everyone."  Luckily, Thedek and Vanica got on eventually and I felt a little better because I at least could say I was on and got to talk to two of my guildies.
 
But today, I feel even better.  Starting to think that, rather than the problem, megaservers may be the answer for us.  Certainly, they aren't in yet, and we're already dealing with the fragmenting community issue, so it's not Carbine's fault.
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They are all psycho, but Rocio loves crazy apparently. They've done an excellent job building all this conflict in the short time Rocio was injured. Rocio's tribe are at each other's throats but at the meeting they acted like nothing was going on at all.
 
One is acting like he should lead, not Rocio.
 
One mate attempted to punish the other only to have the other make a death threat against her and her unborn kit.
 
Others are conspiring with Dommies to strike at a rival guild.
 
I came up with none of these. ©.©
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They're gainfully employed and attempting to give Rocio a massive stroke.
 
That tribe recently came into a lot of money. I don't see that causing aaaaaany conflict.	
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They are all psycho, but Rocio loves crazy apparently. They've done an excellent job building all this conflict in the short time Rocio was injured. Rocio's tribe are at each other's throats but at the meeting they acted like nothing was going on at all.
 
One is acting like he should lead, not Rocio.
 
One mate attempted to punish the other only to have the other make a death threat against her and her unborn kit.
 
Others are conspiring with Dommies to strike at a rival guild.
 
I came up with none of these. ©.©
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They're gainfully employed and attempting to give Rocio a massive stroke.
 
That tribe recently came into a lot of money. I don't see that causing aaaaaany conflict.
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Mordesh are odd creatures. They seem very cold, and can be found doing morally objectionable things with little concern. At the same time it is just a mask, and most of what they do is driven by very strong emotions. There has to be a point where they can remove some of the armor and let emotions come to the surface, they just probably don't do it in front of anyone else. I have joked about what mordesh do during their secret lives, partly to off set the doom and gloom aspect. 
 
*Sits a large radio on a bar-stool.* 
"So if you have a mordesh in your life, tell them how much you care. Help them to remember the person underneath the metal and necrotizing flesh. Make sure they know that they are alive for more than just spite." 
 
"This one goes out to all the mordesh ladies."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypyiAT1RelU
 
 
((Morning everyone. I think breakfast was just coffee, as it was at 4am. Might poke my head around the live server later today. I really like life on the PTR.))	
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Good morning everyone.
 
Today is another busy day irl for me so I don't have much to talk about.  With luck, there will be some Wildstar tonight.  But it makes me very happy and proud of our community to be able to log in and see the positivity in this thread before I head off to corporate servitude for the day  :)
 
You guys are great.
 
Off I go now, but I'll leave you with this:
 
- If your class had some sort of over-the-top "ultimate attack" with a massive cooldown, what would it look like?
 
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I'm not sure. I mean, Stalker Tanks are pretty much like Wolverine already, what with our claws and healing capacity... so...
 
Let me get back to you on that one, good sir.
 
Anyway, breakfast for me was Weetabix (yum! If you've never tried them, you at least have to). As for WildStar, I was going to run a Malgrave Trail with some other Daggers last night (my first time), but sadly, Chaide and I ran into some internet troubles, and I spent what little internet uptime we had searching for an alternative to Crapcast. Tonight I'm hoping our internet is working enough for us to get an impromptu SOMETHING going within the Daggers on top of the events already scheduled. :)
 
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Good morning everyone.
 
Today is another busy day irl for me so I don't have much to talk about.  With luck, there will be some Wildstar tonight.  But it makes me very happy and proud of our community to be able to log in and see the positivity in this thread before I head off to corporate servitude for the day :)
 
You guys are great.
 
Off I go now, but I'll leave you with this:
 
- If your class had some sort of over-the-top "ultimate attack" with a massive cooldown, what would it look like?
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Mordesh are odd creatures. They seem very cold, and can be found doing morally objectionable things with little concern. At the same time it is just a mask, and most of what they do is driven by very strong emotions. There has to be a point where they can remove some of the armor and let emotions come to the surface, they just probably don't do it in front of anyone else. I have joked about what mordesh do during their secret lives, partly to off set the doom and gloom aspect. 
 
*Sits a large radio on a bar-stool.* 
"So if you have a mordesh in your life, tell them how much you care. Help them to remember the person underneath the metal and necrotizing flesh. Make sure they know that they are alive for more than just spite." 
 
"This one goes out to all the mordesh ladies."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypyiAT1RelU
 
 
((Morning everyone. I think breakfast was just coffee, as it was at 4am. Might poke my head around the live server later today. I really like life on the PTR.))
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They're gainfully employed and attempting to give Rocio a massive stroke.
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I may or may not have read that wrong.
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This is very much how I play my mordesh - "still waters run deep" and all. I actually base her a lot off Victorian sensibilities, in fact - on the surface, seemingly strait laced and repressed, but with all kinds of things going on below the surface.  Should maybe get together ICly for some fun mordesh RP at some point!
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This is very much how I play my mordesh - "still waters run deep" and all. I actually base her a lot off Victorian sensibilities, in fact - on the surface, seemingly strait laced and repressed, but with all kinds of things going on below the surface.  Should maybe get together ICly for some fun mordesh RP at some point!
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Have you tried a better router?
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Internet's in a deplorable state.  I'm with Time Warner because they're all that exists in my area (they bought the area from Insight).  And my internet does no better than 15 down, 2 up, because they haven't upgraded our area.
 
I hate, hate, hate, hate that.  Time Warner's been reliable enough, but they provide 50 down in most areas, 100 down in a few select areas.  My internet gets clogged easily when we've got a lot of devices running online at once.
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((Morning everyone. I think breakfast was just coffee, as it was at 4am. Might poke my head around the live server later today. I really like life on the PTR.))
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This is why I think they should do a total wipe of the PTR every few weeks at least. In almost every game that I have played that has a PTR a lot of people go and live there.
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Internet's in a deplorable state.  I'm with Time Warner because they're all that exists in my area (they bought the area from Insight).  And my internet does no better than 15 down, 2 up, because they haven't upgraded our area.
 
I hate, hate, hate, hate that.  Time Warner's been reliable enough, but they provide 50 down in most areas, 100 down in a few select areas.  My internet gets clogged easily when we've got a lot of devices running online at once.
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We're direct-lined in.  Like real nerds. :D
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This is very much how I play my mordesh - "still waters run deep" and all. I actually base her a lot off Victorian sensibilities, in fact - on the surface, seemingly strait laced and repressed, but with all kinds of things going on below the surface.  Should maybe get together ICly for some fun mordesh RP at some point!
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Good...afternoon, everyone! (didn't quite make it before noon)
 
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In WildStar news, I plowed through Galeras and Whitevale. Today is Farside and hopefully I will be able to plow through it from start to finish people heading to the theater. That is the plan!More to do! More to do! Also, more to do!
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In addition, becoming an officer is not a carefree transition. You can have someone who is a fantastic officer, but still isn't what the players in the given guild are looking for. That ends in either two ways: 1) the officer steps down and ends up possibly feeling rejected, or 2) the officer changes how they play the game to suit the guild, which means they're may not be having as much fun as they were before. Honestly, those are my two biggest reservations in taking on a leadership role in-game. Of course, you can also have someone who is a great player, but makes a terrible officer. That becomes awkward, too.
 
It helps a lot if the GL has a short list of "here's what I'd like you to do to start" so that the officer knows what's expected. That way the officer isn't floundering from the start and trying to figure out how to fit into the hierarchy. Once the officer is comfortable, they'll usually build onto that list later, and modify it as members offer feedback.
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Good morning, Nexians!
 
Last night I made it to the surface of Farside, which is, by far, my favorite area of the game! My lvl 50 is working on her third CW4 weapon now, only 2 weeks (or less) before she has it. Totally enjoying my time, taking the game in little chunks as I can. I'm surprisingly busy IRL, which is not necessarily a bad thing lol!
 
Breakfast this morning:
 
Coffee (of course... Tim Horton's that my friend smuggled from Canada for me!), Hawaiian Sweet Bread rolls with cream cheese and a home made Red Pepper jelly, which is REALLY delicious. It's a wonderful combination of spicy and sweet, and creamy with the cream cheese!	
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Yeah my main TV is hard wired in but nothing else is :(
 
I run 2 55 inch TVs, (soon a 70 omg I cant wait) a micro cell tower, 2 tablets, a laptop, my gaming rig and at least one cell (mine but I give out my wifi to all my friends) and never have any issues. I did get a new router ummm...an N600? about a year ago and it seemed to help.
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Luckily, I have a great agreement with my officers that worked very well the last time I ran a guild.
 
...
 
Without them, I think I'd be trying to also arrange and run adventures, which might be a bit too much for my plate.  And Cyco opened his plot up as our guild HQ!  Without the two of them, I'd be pulling my hair out.
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Internet's in a deplorable state.  I'm with Time Warner because they're all that exists in my area (they bought the area from Insight).  And my internet does no better than 15 down, 2 up, because they haven't upgraded our area.
 
I hate, hate, hate, hate that.  Time Warner's been reliable enough, but they provide 50 down in most areas, 100 down in a few select areas.  My internet gets clogged easily when we've got a lot of devices running online at once.
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Could be worse.
Where I lived in Pennsylvania only had one-way cable service.
That means...
The downstream was cable, but the upstream was DIAL-UP.  28.8K upload.  Yeah.  This when FIOS had started cropping up in Philly, too.
Seems PenTeleData laid the first cable lines in the US back in the 50's, and never bothered to upgrade in some areas.
Fun times...fun times...
And now where I'm at, Time Warner is competing with the possibility of Google Fibre (Austin) and has started offering massive upgraded service for cheap.  I am reaping the rewards...or would be if I bothered to upgrade my modem.
 
Anyway, I'll probably pop onto WildStar for a bit tonight and see what I get done.  I may possibly be splitting some time between some games.  We shall see how things go.
Stuff, and things.
Dat Chua doe...so cute.   ^_^
 
-T.
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I wish we could get fiber in Ohio.  The only fiber in Ohio is at the Honda plant.
 
Time Warner isn't upgrading near me because they don't need to.  I'm like ten minutes from downtown, but Pickerington might as well be a suburb of Xenia for all it matters to Time Warner.
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Ahh, good ol Ohio. My husband grew up there, his whole family still lives there. I fly into Columbus every time we go. But we have to drive nearly 2 hours to get to his folks house from there lol!
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To be fair, we lived four years in Houston.  We literally had better speed with Uverse.
 
That.... that shouldn't ever happen ever.
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We're contemplating Uverse because Crapcast is just *that bad* recently. And that... well... that's just sad. 
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Yeah, we pay for 20 down with "the possibility of 30 at non-peak times". It's more like 12-15 down with constant disconnect and packet loss, the past month or two. And we're metro area. If only Google Fiber was in the area. (Though, at the same time, they're taking over the world, so...)
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My daughter had issues like that with her cable/internet. Turned out to be a bad cable/wire in one of her walls. The cable/wire was cut so the information was bottle necking there causing all her issues. Since they replace the cable/wire, she has had no issues.
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We had a similar issue where Verizon's equipment that had been installed on the exterior of the house had weathered & corroded to the point where it was causing connectivity issues. After calling Verizon multiple times over the course of several weeks, we finally demanded that they send a technician out to look at it. He took one look and then was able to fix it in about 20 minutes.
 
The technician was great. The customer support call center....yeah, not so much.
 
also:
 
/inbeforeofftopicmodpost
 
I didn't start it this time! :D
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			ISPs are pretty awful over here too. For 70$ a month, I get 15 down and 1 up with unlimited bandwidth. That comes with random DNS problems and connection interruption. Doesn't happen TOO often. We have a Google Fiber "equivalent" if you are willing to fork an obscene amount of money per month. 107$ if you take it with a bundle which start at 100$ a month (TV+Phone). That's 207$ for 175 down and 175 up with a monthly bandwidth limit of 300 gbs. Got to pay an additional 10$ for unlimited (in a bundle) or 30$ (as a standalone product). There's also a 50$ fee for installation. After the first 3 months, you pay an additional 50$ for no reason in particular. You want unlimited fiber Internet? Cough up roughly 300$ a month. That, friends, is what happens when a single company has monopoly over -ALL- the Internet fiber lines across the country.WildStar news! Just got done with Farside. I will be on my way to the terrible first half of Wilderrun after taking a break for a few hours.	
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Morning everyone! Today is one of those days where things jsut build up at work to a degree you go "ya...I'm taking Friday off". I didn't get to eat breakfast, but made myself a bowl of lamb curry klast night for lunch which made the day slightly better.
 
Wildstar wise I gotta say I've been getting ummmm I guess "pumped" with the new role and funny I'm in turn meeting and talking to new people as well. I've been getting back into designing my house and really glad I stumbled onto a item particualr which allows me enclose my entire house now. I am finishing up a 3rd draft for a backstory as an option which I think I'll have up tonight. Sadly a friend is leaving wildstar shortly due to being deployed so trying to pump out a little painting for them and their partner.
 
Everyones been very lovely though and gotta get some things hammered out but I like where things are going.
 
Aslo Saturday(for now) Is PvE day normals, vets, bosses, whatever I'm hoping to get a lot of guild runs, but also friends are welcome too join! I know a few people who still need attunement too so be more than happy to help anyone on NA dominion :)
 
@ Niliana - I don't think I got to say this before, but I'm VERY happy you're back and glad to see you're doing well and hope you get even better!!!	
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Morning everyone! Today is one of those days where things jsut build up at work to a degree you go "ya...I'm taking Friday off". I didn't get to eat breakfast, but made myself a bowl of lamb curry klast night for lunch which made the day slightly better.
 
Wildstar wise I gotta say I've been getting ummmm I guess "pumped" with the new role and funny I'm in turn meeting and talking to new people as well. I've been getting back into designing my house and really glad I stumbled onto a item particualr which allows me enclose my entire house now. I am finishing up a 3rd draft for a backstory as an option which I think I'll have up tonight. Sadly a friend is leaving wildstar shortly due to being deployed so trying to pump out a little painting for them and their partner.
 
Everyones been very lovely though and gotta get some things hammered out but I like where things are going.
 
Aslo Saturday(for now) Is PvE day normals, vets, bosses, whatever I'm hoping to get a lot of guild runs, but also friends are welcome too join! I know a few people who still need attunement too so be more than happy to help anyone on NA dominion :)
 
@ Niliana - I don't think I got to say this before, but I'm VERY happy you're back and glad to see you're doing well and hope you get even better!!!
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We had a similar issue where Verizon's equipment that had been installed on the exterior of the house had weathered & corroded to the point where it was causing connectivity issues. After calling Verizon multiple times over the course of several weeks, we finally demanded that they send a technician out to look at it. He took one look and then was able to fix it in about 20 minutes.
 
The technician was great. The customer support call center....yeah, not so much.
 
also:
 
/inbeforeofftopicmodpost
 
I didn't start it this time! :D
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Guess I'll demand a tech come look inside and outside the apartment before switching, but not holding my breath.
 
In WildStar related business, who do you think they'll get for next week's Nexus Report? I'd really like some updates on Guilds and Guild Features, personally.
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I love having techs/plumbers/etc. at the house! "We'll be there sometime between 8 and noon." *guy shows up at 4:45*  FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
It does feel like it's been a while since they talked about social systems in-game.
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Social system?  Can I get foodstamps? :D  Help a hungry Aurin out!
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Guess I'll demand a tech come look inside and outside the apartment before switching, but not holding my breath.
 
In WildStar related business, who do you think they'll get for next week's Nexus Report? I'd really like some updates on Guilds and Guild Features, personally.
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Social system?  Can I get foodstamps? :D  Help a hungry Aurin out!
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Honestly, I'd like that superlong QA session on the megaservers because that means we'd have megaservers dropping in.  Drop 3 can't come soon enough.
 
So many delicious improvements.
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Also umm not sure who to talk to about this. I tossed around this idea with a friend, but I was thinking of doing a Wildstar e-art book kind of project after I finish a current folio. It'd be the same setup as the one I'm currently working on under a pay what you want model, but 100% going toward charity. I imagine I'd need permission first, I don't wanna step on any legal toes.
 
I've also just sent a model off to get 3d printed I hope it turns out well.
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On topic: When I get home and after supper, I am logging in and leveling. Darn it!!! I just need to log on and leave my house asap in order to level any. Will see how far I get lol
 
I just have to keep in mind that once the housing updates hit, I won't be leveling any, so need to get the levels done now. I would like an idea on when the drop is going to happen though. I know i won't be 50 by the time it does, but want to be at least 30+.
 
"Hi, my name is Cirinde and I am addicted to housing."
 
Off topic: When we lived in Vermont, we had satellite and dial up for the first year there. That was in 2003. The cable company had stopped their expansion 2 house down from me, well until the state stepped in and slapped them with a 'get this done like you promised 4 yrs ago or we are going to slap you with a mega huge fine' kind of letter.
 
Now I wont live any where that does not have cable internet. I am patient but not that patient. :blink:	
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This makes me nostalgic for when we had to actually blow on the games and when I had to fight with my siblings to get the TV so I could play games.
 
Wonder if Wildstar would have lasted in my generation?	
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This makes me nostalgic for when we had to actually blow on the games and when I had to fight with my siblings to get the TV so I could play games.
 
Wonder if Wildstar would have lasted in my generation?
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Wonder if Wildstar would have lasted in my generation?
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			Is it just me or are all the ISPs kind of equally garbage? Like mines att is working right now but if it rains again will probably go right back to crap.	
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Is it just me or are all the ISPs kind of equally garbage? Like mines att is working right now but if it rains again will probably go right back to crap.
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I have no idea how old you are, but speaking as someone who came in at the tail end of the Atari era, I think those of us who had to blow on our games are more receptive to challenging games, simply because we grew up with games that often bordered on ridiculous, and in some cases were never intended to be "beaten." They just got harder and harder until you eventually lost.
 
That said, as the generation gets older, I'm not sure we have the same patience we used to, and certainly not the same free time.
 
All I can say is that my nursing home had better install an arcade, arthritis be damned. :)
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Is it just me or are all the ISPs kind of equally garbage? Like mines att is working right now but if it rains again will probably go right back to crap.
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I am 43. Atari was the only source I had for gaming. Well, besides the arcade. Or, *gasp, having to go outside to play.
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Where is this "outside"?  Was that the name of your arcade?
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It's called the 'Outernet'.
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Just thought I'd share this...
I made it during my lunch break today...
 
Work in progress, but makes a nice little flage hehe...
 
Wildstar Crossing	
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Just thought I'd share this...
I made it during my lunch break today...
 
Work in progress, but makes a nice little flage hehe...
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Wildstar made for Atari ....
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Well yeah, obviously.  Did you see what Link looked like back then compared to now?  Wildstar would have been the best looking game that would have come out for the next 20 years.
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Speaking of which, occasionally I think about how lucky Blizzard got with their release timing with WoW.
 
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But yeah, I remember that being a huge thing, that WoW was just a cartoon and FFXI had better graphics.
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I remember people hating the graphics of WoW.
 
"So cartooney.  Why would I switch from FFXI!  Look at how good these graphics look!"
 
*gets close, looks at textures and resolutions, sees where the savings were made*
 
But yeah, I remember that being a huge thing, that WoW was just a cartoon and FFXI had better graphics.
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I think part of the reason it's so good is that there are two local cable companies with relatively small service areas (compared to big companies like Verizon or Comcast) that are constantly competing with each other. They have less maintenance to deal with simply because of the smaller service area, and more incentive to keep up to date, because otherwise they'll be out of business in no time.
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How did I miss the, "When I was your age, computer games didn't even HAVE graphics?" conversation?!?!  /augh /flail
 
 
I got my first copy of King's Quest when I was 11.  Love at first sight.  And holy cow - GRAPHICS!!!
 
 
I remember being all peeved because one of the versions went to mouse/click based gameplay instead of typing in commands on the prompt line, and I decried the stupidity of it all.  In other news, don't ask me for stock advice...
 
(I also remember playing Leisure Suit Larry with my dad because we both loved Sierra games.  I was 13 or 14 I think by then, and didn't get a lot of the jokes.  He wouldn't explain them to me.  Ah, good times!)
 	
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The problem we have here is that there are service contracts, so we literally have one choice for service. You want cable? You use Company X. If that doesn't work, you can choose between the two big dish networks, IF there aren't a hundred trees or a giant mountain between you and the satellite (which, in WA, there almost always is). For Internet, it's cable, again, from a single company per address, or DSL.. maybe. Not everywhere has DSL service.
 
This has led to a total "This is what you get. Pay us way more than it's worth, suffer our ridiculous data limits, or do without."
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How did I miss the, "When I was your age, computer games didn't even HAVE graphics?" conversation?!?!  /augh /flail
 
 
I got my first copy of King's Quest when I was 11.  Love at first sight.  And holy cow - GRAPHICS!!!
 
 
I remember being all peeved because one of the versions went to mouse/click based gameplay instead of typing in commands on the prompt line, and I decried the stupidity of it all.  In other news, don't ask me for stock advice...
 
(I also remember playing Leisure Suit Larry with my dad because we both loved Sierra games.  I was 13 or 14 I think by then, and didn't get a lot of the jokes.  He wouldn't explain them to me.  Ah, good times!)
 
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At least you aren't konata from lucky star whose dad started playing hentai games with her when she was 5.
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Heyyyyy..... What are you trying to say huh?
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Glad you're back and feeling great, Nils!
 
I didn't even really get to log in until 1130 last night, what with the Nexus Report TL;DR, cooking dinner, coming home late anyway, having to run some more forum messages, then finally getting into the game.  Luckily, Vanica and Thedek were there to keep me company in the wee hours of the morning.  Today, I've got someone interested in the guild that I'm going to give a bit more in-depth information to.  I have to do a purge of inactives (we have 200 accounts and about 10-20 people on most times)
 
.......
 
Looking forward to being in the game tonight!  As soon as my guild stuff and recruitment is sorted, I'm going to see about either starting on our skyfortress or running some more endgame content.  For all the Blazing Saddles, make sure you drop by our guild forums, under general discussion, and read our rough draft of the lore.  I'm already fielding a lot of very helpful questions for the next draft and receiving a lot of positive feedback!  Especially from the potential candidate!  As soon as we've got things settled out, I'm going to purge the inactive members and go on a recruitment drive.  I want our guild tag to be everywhere, so ubiquitous over the heads of great and helpful players that, even after the merger, everyone knows exactly who we are!
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I have no idea how old you are, but speaking as someone who came in at the tail end of the Atari era, I think those of us who had to blow on our games are more receptive to challenging games, simply because we grew up with games that often bordered on ridiculous, and in some cases were never intended to be "beaten." They just got harder and harder until you eventually lost.
 
That said, as the generation gets older, I'm not sure we have the same patience we used to, and certainly not the same free time.
 
All I can say is that my nursing home had better install an arcade, arthritis be damned. :)
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I played games like "try to climb as high as I can in that tree without falling" or...
Um...
"Make a lightsabre out of an old wrapping paper roll and duct tape."
Neighbour finally got an Atari.  By neighbour, I mean the kid that was a mile or two away, and I could hike through the woods and through one of the other neighbour's field to get there.  We got an Intellivision.  It was pretty neat, but I still played outside in the woods a lot.
 
-T.
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I played games like "try to climb as high as I can in that tree without falling" or...
Um...
"Make a lightsabre out of an old wrapping paper roll and duct tape."
Neighbour finally got an Atari.  By neighbour, I mean the kid that was a mile or two away, and I could hike through the woods and through one of the other neighbour's field to get there.  We got an Intellivision.  It was pretty neat, but I still played outside in the woods a lot.
 
-T.
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I played games like "try to climb as high as I can in that tree without falling" or...
Um...
"Make a lightsabre out of an old wrapping paper roll and duct tape."
Neighbour finally got an Atari.  By neighbour, I mean the kid that was a mile or two away, and I could hike through the woods and through one of the other neighbour's field to get there.  We got an Intellivision.  It was pretty neat, but I still played outside in the woods a lot.
 
-T.
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Don't get me wrong, I spent a lot of time outside, too.
 
And FAR more of my childhood was spent happily sticking Legos together than gaming. :)
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