130755-wildstar-spotlight-pax-prime

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ2MqdClOQI&feature=youtu.be
 
There's the recording, for as long as it's allowed to stay up.
 
A few comments I'd like to make:
 
1.  Please throw that old footage that you like to use in the trash.  Like, delete it from your Carbine servers, and the internet if possible.  This game has been out for over a year, out meaning OUT OF BETA.  Please use up to date footage that doesn't look like alpha footage for Wildstar.  I know that there are hundreds of players with thousands of hours of gameplay that can be used in preview footage.  To be honest, you could make far better footage (early beta / unreleased arenas etc? are you kidding me?) in just one night of playing.  Do a dungeon with OBS on record.  Do a raid.  Use any of the awesome PvP videos that Sin Jin has recently made.  Hey guys, come play our re-launched free to play game, let's entice you with footage over a year old with what looks to be a small child trying to play the game.
 
2.  The game is not bug-free, as Omeed may have suggested.  While bugs are inevitable, gamebreaking bugs exist.  These bugs ruin the gaming experience.
 
3.  Wildstar has an extremely fun and interesting story, with lots of imaginative and colorful characters. The presenter's description did not do it justice, in fact I think the comments failed to even describe Nexus, Wildstar, and the story, if at all.  The story is not just about Drusera, the depth extends much further than that.  Please, in the future, when trying to advertise for this game, put a little more effort into the descriptions you're giving this game.  Off the top of my head I could think of things better than, "the idea of learning about drusera."  There's more to Wildstar than that.
 
4.  Why is so much time spent on the "new player experience?"  Why is a lot of the spotlight spent on the <1 hour of playtime that people will experience in the tutorial?
 
There are many other things that I find issue with in the presentation, but I think it very much boils down to a lack of effort into PR / advertising for Wildstar.  You can do better.  Your community will gladly help you.  Please, if possible, take thought of these 3 things I've highlighted and do something about it.  Your community and your loyal playerbase aren't asking for much,
 
It seems that Carbine has a lot of passion for their game, but not very much real effort into selling it / making people want to play it.
 
Comments mirrored here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WildStar/comments/3izbcr/wildstar_spotlight_pax_prime_2015_twitchtv/
 
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	Edited August 31, 2015 by Chillia	
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			Have to agree with Eclipse on this.	
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Like I said in my other post, just goes to show the NCSOFT propaganda machine knows nothing about nothing....not even propaganda.
Playing wow for just under 10 years his comment made me cringe “ wow is a lot better game now “ if people like him choose the direction of Wildstar, then God help us all  
 
This just ties in with the live streams, I've nothing against sunshine or Tony, but if it was your game....would you let the worst players in history showcase your product ?
			
				
	Edited August 31, 2015 by ministabber	
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Some new footage would've been great.  Actual game play scenes give the game a more active appearance.  The scenes they showed are stilted and minimal.  One guy hacking at one creature as he stands there in most of them leaves the viewer the sense that its a 'rotations' based combat system and not sometihng as movement based as Wildstar actually is.
 
DeeDees description of the plot was pretty bare boned to say the least: 'Drusera...bad guys...something happens...destroys stuff.' This is pretty much what I was left with.
 
Creative player generated stuff like the link below and some actual game play footage would have been nice to see.
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ9sI8K5g9Q	
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Some new footage would've been great.  Actual game play scenes give the game a more active appearance.  The scenes they showed are stilted and minimal.  One guy hacking at one creature as he stands there in most of them leaves the viewer the sense that its a 'rotations' based combat system and not sometihng as movement based as Wildstar actually is.
 
DeeDees description of the plot was pretty bare boned to say the least: 'Drusera...bad guys...something happens...destroys stuff.' This is pretty much what I was left with.
 
Creative player generated stuff like the link below and some actual game play footage would have been nice to see.
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ9sI8K5g9Q
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3.  Wildstar has an extremely fun and interesting story, with lots of imaginative and colorful characters. The presenter's description did not do it justice, in fact I think the comments failed to even describe Nexus, Wildstar, and the story, if at all.  The story is not just about Drusera, the depth extends much further than that.  Please, in the future, when trying to advertise for this game, put a little more effort into the descriptions you're giving this game.  Off the top of my head I could think of things better than, "the idea of learning about drusera."  There's more to Wildstar than that.
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Omeed: "If you played WoW in 2004, it's not the same game anymore- it's better, it's got more stuff." ... isn't Wildstar in competition with WoW? Why would you talk about WoW improvements during a Wildstar spotlight??
 
Omeed: "All the bugs are gone." No, they're not.
 
Omeed: "It's the free players- they suck." Aren't you guys trying to attract free players? Wasn't that the point of this spotlight?
 
Get rid of this guy. 
			
				
	Edited August 31, 2015 by Debrained	
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They're trying to attract players that don't suck while simultaneously spending a considerable amount of development time on tutorial / novice player content.
 
Oh, right.	
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yah- basically ive been paying a monthly sub these past few months for NEW tutorial content( talk about a shift on delivery) becouse lets face it, there hasnt been any new content for a while.
 
PTR shades of eve is pretty dam good- but dont think that could be dismissed as NEW content upon relese date, just shows how short staff carbine really is. reminds me of the last few months of Warhammer Online.
 
with all these expansion and games beign released in the coming months- not sure a new tutorial content will keep my interest in this game. they will have to pull one out of their....'BoomBox' to keep me interested.
			
				
	Edited August 31, 2015 by Ticon	
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Whose place is that? My stalker needs to head to that dance club.
 
I agree that they should have shown better, more captivating content.
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That lore answer was rough, but I have to give DD the benefit of the doubt here since this was her first PAX as the representative of Wildstar.  Hopefully next time she'll be a little more in her element.
 
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Omeed: "If you played WoW in 2004, it's not the same game anymore- it's better, it's got more stuff." ... isn't Wildstar in competition with WoW? Why would you talk about WoW improvements during a Wildstar spotlight??
 
Omeed: "All the bugs are gone." No, they're not.
 
Omeed: "It's the free players- they suck." Aren't you guys trying to attract free players? Wasn't that the point of this spotlight?
 
Get rid of this guy.
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My Favorite part where he refered to Wildstar players as whiners and losers.
 
The WoW and Wildstar comparison is not there, stop trying to make it happen...
IN FACT I bet the Wow forums would get a kick out of these comments on this video.
			
				
	Edited September 1, 2015 by Shah Soulstar	
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lol just watched it....so bad.
 
"you can join the closed beta now".....1) why are we calling it a closed beta? and 2) if its a closed beta, it would entail getting keys for a limited amount of time....Yes there is no one in the beta server, so it makes sense, but lets just call it an open beta especially because the game is already out and has been for a year?
 
anyways, this vid made me cringe haha, im baffled. what is going on in ncsoft leadership?	
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Actually took some to watch through the entire video now.....
 
 
 
"All the bugs are gone"
 
Man, did he even play WildStar?
Talking about it is one thing, but having the balls to say this with how the game is.....
Wow, just wow.....
 
 
"We're having a unique sense oh humour in the game".
No you won't. Not after Drop 6, as you're kicking it all out apparently.
Does this CM team actually keep track of their changes in the game?
 
"People complained, it will be a toggle system".
No it won't. You've already said yourself that the toggle is 'too complex' and won't make it launch.
The contradictions are strong on this one....
 
"It's the free players, cause you know, they suck".
Omeed, buddy.....
I can understand the joke behind this......but...No..just no....
You should see the drama about this sentence...............	
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Less than an hour for who?  Somebody who's never touched WS before will take significantly more time than that especially if they're not a race to end-game type person.
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I'd have been more concerned about the presentation if one glimpse at the Twitch chat showed that anyone watching actually cared about the WildStar spot.  But the criticism here is spot on, and I'll add my feelings:
 
The game footage is old, and it needs to be replaced.  The press footage they use with the Warrior swinging endlessly in Alpha Sanctum put me to sleep the first time, and it put me to sleep this time.  I respect and love DD, but her presentation of the story made me cringe and slightly embarrassed because this game has a pretty amazing story and that did nothing for it.  My experience in-game is 10x as exciting as the PAX spotlight footage made it seem, and the press footage for the F2P update is frankly the most boring game footage yet.  If you're going to try to pull people in, why not showcase an Esper, or Engineer?  Or something with actual spell effects?  The melee animations are another topic in itself, but please.
 
It could have easily been described as, "Well, there's there's this legendary planet called Nexus where a hyper advanced race called the Eldan did a lot of crazy things, who then disappeared thousands of years ago. You uncover their legacy and find out what happened to them as you play the game, along with how their fates tie into that of your faction. You can even check out some important pre-game story on our website!"
 
That didn't take long and wasn't overly complicated, and gave a few key points without spoilers.  This game is basically Treasure Planet the game, and you have to sell it as that.
 
Please.  Please, please, please do something about the marketing/PR. You guys are shooting yourselves in your collective feet and we all know you care and are passionate about this.  But your guys' PR is in need of some serious help. I'll only barely start about the goofy Caretaker image on all of the banners for F2P starting to show up everywhere. The trailer/party vibe was cute, but that isn't what WildStar is about. It doesn't represent well what is so amazing about this game. The fun attitude is present, but I don't know anyone that thinks a Caretaker in a bizarre pose with headphones is their hook to check out the game.
			
				
	Edited September 2, 2015 by Kelzam Duskthorn	
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Also, that part of the game will be what the masses of F2P try-outs run into first. If you get bored out of your mind in the first hour, how likely will you be to stick around for hour #2? If the first hour looks and sounds boring, how likely will you be to even try the game?
 
That's why they spent time on discussing the first hour of the game. Whether that was a good discussion or not is a different issue.
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I mean, maybe they misinterpreted the fact that Carbine has used loaded box sales as incentive for items in the game, so that people activate the game, get the free game time / mystery box item / future cosmic rewards, and then never use that account again.
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You don't need to create a new account to redeem the mystery boxes.  You can add box codes to your current account which grants you 30 more days of playtime.
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This game is basically Treasure Planet the game, and you have to sell it as that.
 
Please.  Please, please, please do something about the marketing/PR. You guys are shooting yourselves in your collective feet and we all know you care and are passionate about this.  But your guys' PR is in need of some serious help. I'll only barely start about the goofy Caretaker image on all of the banners for F2P starting to show up everywhere. The trailer/party vibe was cute, but that isn't what WildStar is about. It doesn't represent well what is so amazing about this game. The fun attitude is present, but I don't know anyone that thinks a Caretaker in a bizarre pose with headphones is their hook to check out the game.
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			If Ohmeed is the best they could get, I volunteer to help advertise the game! I've plenty of experience in public speaking and interacting with people. I'll send my resume! :P	
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That didn't take long and wasn't overly complicated, and gave a few key points without spoilers.  This game is basically Treasure Planet the game, and you have to sell it as that.
 
Please.  Please, please, please do something about the marketing/PR. You guys are shooting yourselves in your collective feet and we all know you care and are passionate about this.  But your guys' PR is in need of some serious help. I'll only barely start about the goofy Caretaker image on all of the banners for F2P starting to show up everywhere. The trailer/party vibe was cute, but that isn't what WildStar is about. It doesn't represent well what is so amazing about this game. The fun attitude is present, but I don't know anyone that thinks a Caretaker in a bizarre pose with headphones is their hook to check out the game.
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Treasure Planet + Banzo Kazooie
 
How does that not sell itself?	
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Treasure Planet + Banzo Kazooie
 
How does that not sell itself?
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Different target audience ;)
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I never played Banjo Kazooie, but I'm exactly the audience for a Treasure Planet - ish MMO. In fact, the game's similarity in style and feel to those movies (Treasure Planet, Atlantis, even some of the earlier 90s stuff) is what hooked me and still keeps me in.
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I thought that Omeed guy was working on everquest next...............................
 
https://youtu.be/eD_v_f9LZp8
 
https://youtu.be/XAv2ZKyfVsM	
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I've tried to reach out to Omeed on behalf of the PvPers to encourage community involvement and streamers etc, but I didn't get a response.
 
It might just be because its me though.	
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It's really hard to be critical of people with real feelings when they are presenting a public face to a game you both love, but Wildstar has been handled a little awkwardly since transitioning to the new (and better) era. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings (for once) but all of the livestreams/publicity make me cringe.
 
Everyone seems very uncomfortable, the show feels unrehearsed, and generally I think it's harming the PR for the game. I'm not sure if this is just not certain people's main forte or if it's only lack of preparation, but please reconsider some strategies for improving. I only say this because I want the game to be received as well as it deserves and right now that's not happening.
 
To be blunt, Wildstar livestreams feel like I'm watching a telethon trying to get donations for the game.  :(
 
While the people involved are certainly talented in other areas of PR or CM, I just want to be honest. I don't know that I could personally do better, so please don't mistake this as being judgmental. Just an honest review from someone who wants the game's image to improve.
 
Things Wildstar PR needs: Better preparation, more engaging personalities (less awkwardness, more natural camera charisma, more excitement in the game itself), and overall a better branding/image for the game. Again, sorry sorry sorry if this hurts...but I think sometimes you need to hear honest feedback.
			
				
	Edited September 3, 2015 by Kelimbror	
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