The O'Reilly Factor

The O'Reilly Factor (originally titled The O'Reilly Report and also known as The Factor) is an American cable television news and talk show. The final episode aired on April 21, 2017, after O'Reilly was fired from the network, assumed to be for the multiple sexual harassment lawsuits and claims against him.Guo, Jeff (April 19, 2017). "Why Fox News Finally Dropped Bill O'Reilly". Vox.
American rapper Lupe Fiasco was invited onto The Factor, but allegedly declined. O'Reilly had reported on June 14, 2011, "possibly because he could not possibly defend that remark, which makes him a pinhead. Now the reason I say I wish I was named Lupe Fiasco, wouldn't it be great, 'The Fiasco Factor'? I mean, it would be tremendous". Fiasco caught news of this and tweeted out: "Whoa! I got invited to the O'reilly facter and turned it down??? Thats news to me...would NEVER turn down the opp to push billys buttons".Cole, Matt (June 16, 2011). "Lupe Fiasco Is Taping His "O'Reilly Factor" Appearance Today". Complex. Fiasco appeared on their show the following day on June 15, where they mainly discussed U.S. politics and forms of terrorism. The episode aired on June 20, 2011, though was edited from its original version.Lipshutz, Jason (June 21, 2011). "Lupe Fiasco Argues on 'O'Reilly Factor,' Defends Calling Obama a 'Terrorist'". Billboard.
== Critical reception ==
MTV News reached out to several music journalists for their opinions of the debate. Rap Radars Brian "B-Dot" Miller said, "The thing is it wasn't live; Lupe probably said a whole lot of things that were edited. But the points that were expressed, I felt like he had a good argument. I wish it could've gone on a little bit longer, but that's the power of TV". Adam Fleischer of XXL stated in agreement, "I'm glad that he went on because O'Reilly just calls out rappers a lot, [and] then they don't usually get a chance to speak for themselves". He continued, "I would like to see the whole interview because it was so clear that things were chopped up. They were switching from clip to clip".
Clover Hope of Vibe remarked, "I thought he actually did a good job of holding his own and clarifying that point that he just wasn't talking about Obama, just America as an institution. I just think it's too complicated to reduce it to 'Lupe thinks Obama is a terrorist'". She felt that neither of them "necessarily won that debate", as they mainly talked.Markman, Rob (June 21, 2011). "Lupe Fiasco Squares Off With Bill O'Reilly: Experts Weigh In!". MTV News.
== Transcript ==
Bill O'Reilly 	What do you mean, President Obama is a terrorist?
Clip of Fiasco on CBS's What's Trending plays. 	Clip of Fiasco on CBS's What's Trending plays.
Lupe Fiasco 	To put it into context, um, I was asked about a song that I did called "Words I Never Said", which addresses terrorism.
Clip of "Words I Never Said" music video plays.	Clip of "Words I Never Said" music video plays.
Lupe Fiasco 	So the statement that I made, which was I believe that the biggest terrorist—uh, Obama—and the United States of America and its foreign policy. That was what the whole, y'know, context of everything was. And it's really just an expression of me trying to, I guess, understand critically, y'know, the society.
Bill 	You know, President Obama's not a terrorist, he's trying to do what he believes is the right thing to do. Uh, the United States—
Lupe 	But that doesn't—
Bill 	—is not a bad nation, it's a noble nation. We're trying to defend ourselves against people who killed us on 9/11.
Lupe 	Who?
Bill 	And then you go out there and you talk to younger people—and this is what gets me. That your constituency are not exactly political science PhDs, okay? They're impressionable kids.
Lupe 	Well I don't think, I don't think that that matters. I don't think you need a political PhD to understand—
Bill 	No, but they listen to you.
Lupe 	Understand, to understand—
Bill 	They listen to you.
Lupe 	To understand politics, I don't think you necessarily need—I don't think that politics are as complex as people like to make them seem or out to be. Richard Nixon said that, y'know, if you—they reduce fear by reducing the causes of fear. And in that same interview, which I spoke about, y'know, calling Obama a terrorist and every president before and after him a terrorist, right? Is that if you're gonna fight terrorism, right?
Bill 	Yeah.
Lupe 	True terrorism, y'know weaponized fear. In defense of ourselves we're actively fighting something else. But if you're gonna terrorism, to me, you fight the root causes of terrorism.
Bill 	The root causes of terrorism are many, okay? They are varied, it depends region to region, and all of that. The United States cannot cure ills in the world. What the president of the United State's responsibility is, is to protect you and me. That's his responsibility. And he's doing it through aggressive action. So. Navy SEALs killed bin Laden. You okay with that?
Lupe 	With them hunting down a criminal, a person who's responsible for the deaths, right, of innocent people?
Bill 	Yes.
Lupe 	I have nothing wrong with that. There's nothing, nothing.
Bill 	Okay, so when bin Laden got killed, you didn't have any problem with that? That was okay? Legitimate action?
Lupe 	You know what I had a problem with? The war in Afghanistan, right?
Bill 	Okay, you have a problem with the war in Afghanistan.
Lupe 	Let me finish that. The point of the war of Afghanistan was supposedly to go in and find bin Laden. Right?
Bill 	Well, no. No, that's not right.
Lupe 	But in the interest—No, no. Well, 9/11—
Bill 	Mr. Jaco.
Lupe 	—Osama bin Laden—
Bill 	What you just said is fallacious, that means it's wrong.
Lupe 	It's not fallacious at all, Sir, it's not wrong.
Bill 	Here's why—
Lupe 	And the point and purpose—Then why did we go into Afghanistan if it wasn't to hunt down Al Qaeda and the terrorist that works, Sir? Because it definitely wasn't for any other reason.
Bill 	I will, no, that's wrong. I will answer it. The reason we went to Afghanistan was to deprive Al Qaeda of a sanctuary. We removed the Taliban government when they wouldn't crack down on Al Qaeda. Now, to get bin Laden, that was another part of the operation, okay?
Lupe 	But it's a part of the operation, Sir, it's not separate—
Bill 	It was to remove Taliban.
Lupe 	But that doesn't negate it. That doesn't take it away from the purpose of it just because it was another part, Sir, it's in the same—
Bill 	No, because of the legitimacy to the war. The war is—
Lupe 	No, the legitimate part of it is to go find their criminal, right, right?
Bill 	No, the legitimate part is to remove a government, which we did, which enabled a terrorist group to declare war in the United States. That's what happened.
Lupe 	Sir, now that thinking right there?
Bill 	Yes.
Lupe 	That thinking right there is what I have a problem with. Because if that's the thinking, that is us.
Bill 	You are oversimplifying and bringing a message to people—younger people, as I pointed out, who admire you—that is a message that is not true.
Lupe 	So to say that the president of the United States of America—all of them, not just Obama because I'm not trying to undermine him—and him being a terrorist is just one label, he's many things like you say. He's a protector, he's a father, he's a mix of other things. Me just recognizing that one attribute of him is not trying to undermine him or undermine my constituency or spread lies or spread rumors for the sake of anybody. I don't really care about the GOPs or the Democratic Party. My point is the people, and giving the people the truth.
Bill 	You're misleading people who—
Lupe 	With that said, our president—I'm not misleading the people, Sir.
Bill 	You are misleading the people.
Lupe 	The president, the president of the United States of America is the commander-in-chief of our armed forces.
Bill 	Okay.
Lupe 	So it's not a lie as you say.
Bill 	So what you are saying basically. Basically the entire U.S. government—and the military attached to it—is a fiasco.
Lupe 	If you do want to change the name of the show to The Fiasco Factor—
Bill 	Right.
Lupe 	Y'know, we'll definitely license the name out to you. I'll even do it for free and just take the publicity. I appreciate that.
Bill 	Do I have to wear the glasses if I do that? Do I have to wear the glasses 'cause it's daytime?
Lupe 	Actually, they're prescription.
Bill 	Okay, great. Alright, Mr. Fiasco. Thanks for coming on in here.
Lupe 	I appreciate you, Mr. O'Reilly. Have a good day.
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