128144-reasons-i-quitunsubbed

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 After initial enjoyment of the game I finally couldn't take anymore...why? Well I know some people like Mario aspects of gameplay and some people like jumping around, many mmo's have them like swtor. but these features are normally a side feature such as titles, achievements etc.....not part of a bloody quest line....we're not all 20 yr olds bought up on Mario...some of us are in our 50's with not so nimble fingers.
Community...way too small and unhelpful to say the least. Quests, now I don't mind dying, but to die and respawn at what should be a safe spot and be automatically engaged with mobs that killed me bloody stupid (forgot what ship hand mission it was. This morning during a quest Drusera and I became one...great I thought, now I died again, respawned and was instantly attacked by same mobs that killed me, again and again and again! I kept chipping away the bosses health between respawns eventually killing it....only cost me 27 gold in repairs after that encounter. Frustration encountered in this game is beyond belief. Gameplay is virtually a solitary affair unless you've played since release. You can reach 50 solo...as I did but what's after? These problems are prevalent on global chat not just encountered by me. For any new players dungeon runs are pretty nigh on impossible. Quote from a new 50 healer in guild chat..."How hard is it to heal in a vet dungeon?" poor chap level 50 with no experiences of healing in dungeons....great eh?
 
/rant off	
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			Hm. I've leveled 6 toons to 50 and 4 others 20+ ish, and I've never had problems with dying straight after rezzing. I'm not one to say this, but from what I gather from this post WS might be too much for ya. Good luck in your further adventures though!	
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I'm 52 and it seems to be just fine for me.  I can double tap to my hearts content.  The only issue I have is the font in some text fields being a little hard on the eyes. You can only do vet dungeons when you hit 50th level.  Before that it's all regular dungeons.  The player you mentioned might have been a newly minted 50th level character and had some experience in regular instances but zero experience in veteran dungeons.  
 
I can see getting killed again after you resurrect if you pay gold and respawn at the sight where you just got killed.  I've never gotten attacked while in the graveyard.  The only thing that hurts me there are the grave keeper sarcastic comments. As for the group content the worst thing you can do it just use the LFG feature for anything over shiphands.  During the leveling experience I managed to get two toons into STL using the LFG feature.  But that was after hours of sitting in it as I quested.  Get into a good active guild and don't forget the lfg channels in the chat window are very useful.  Ask around for groups if you have too. 
 
- Exile side: /chjoin lfg or  /chjoin wsrp 
 
- Dominion side: /chjoin entitylfm, /chjoin wsrp, /chjoin entitychat
            
 
In the server Jabbit they are: 
 
- Exile side: /chjoin global 
 
- Dominion side: /chjoin global 
 
This is a nice thread for more information:
 
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/125295-faq-for-new-players-new-nexian-you-should-read-this/
			
				
	Edited June 18, 2015 by Quuarm	
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After initial enjoyment of the game I finally couldn't take anymore...why? Well I know some people like Mario aspects of gameplay and some people like jumping around, many mmo's have them like swtor. but these features are normally a side feature such as titles, achievements etc.....not part of a bloody quest line....we're not all 20 yr olds bought up on Mario...some of us are in our 50's with not so nimble fingers
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			i get you bro	
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40 years old here with 2 kids. I can say that after spending a decade in WoW i found my place in WS. Imho WS will be the best themepark in the market if they add some more features like:
 
1. Acc Wide mounts/pets/toys/currencies etc so ppl can play freely between chars and create new ones. It also will help to low lvl PvE & PvP LFG queues as well as world content like bosses, group quests etc.
2. a better LFG tool (queue for many activities at the same time + allow the creation of premade groups)
3. Guild Housing / Neighborhood
4. Hidden Treasures / Chests & Artifacts or Cards Collections, so you ll have even more incentives to play in every zone, not only to max lvl ones
5. Professions structure is good as it is, just make them more usable for max lvl. While i agree top gear must be acquired through raiding, you can give some unique BoP mats through raids, so ppl can craft both end game gear and other interesting things that would give value to every profession.
*6. Not important and completely optional, but i would like to see Fishing Tournaments
 
*Btw as it concerns how i enjoy WS and its combat the most? Logitech G600! i just love it :)
			
				
	Edited June 18, 2015 by Mamatereza	
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i get you bro
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I'm 52 and it seems to be just fine for me.  I can double tap to my hearts content.  The only issue I have is the font in some text fields being a little hard on the eyes. 
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i get you too bro
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			In my 40s as well.. The day I allow a game to kick my ass is the day I retire from gaming period. After which I would probably be found a few weeks later in a fetal position waiting for the doctors to take me to  a facility for mental assistance.	
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If you're not a fan of all the jumping and platforming aspects, as well as the leveling difficulty, then wildstar might not be the game for you.
 
You're right, this is a side thing in other games. But wildstar is not other games. Movement plays a HUGE role in everything.
 
That said, if you want to give it a shot, definitely join the global chat channels mentioned earlier in the thread. I find the community to be pretty welcoming, feel free to ask questions when you're stuck. And maybe start looking for a casual / leveling guild already!
 
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I notice now that you mentioned guild chat. Since you're already in a guild, you should do a full guild run with other new players! I'd recommend getting the shiphand renown gear first, and having around 2200 AP or SP (role depending). Just remember, the dungeons are hard and your group is going to die. It's ok! Keep the attitude positive and discuss interrupts and strategies with your guildies! Personally the most fun I had was the very first time I did kel voreth, normal. My friend and I were leveling together, him healing and me tanking. Nobody new the dungeon and we were there fore like 2.5 hours? It was amazing wiping and learning. And soooo satisfying killing the last boss. Those freakin saw blades. But I digress. Get a good (ie - nice) group and enjoy the learning process. You will die, but it's not bad.
			
				
	Edited June 18, 2015 by Kezra	
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			I get what you're getting at when you get them getting each other. Bro x 3	
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I got it, I had it, and then I lost it.
 
...but now it's back again, but I have to get it to the doctors because it's been over 4 hours with it.	
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Hm. I've leveled 6 toons to 50 and 4 others 20+ ish, and I've never had problems with dying straight after rezzing. I'm not one to say this, but from what I gather from this post WS might be too much for ya. Good luck in your further adventures though!
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There are encounters in Shiphands and instanced quests (like Drusera) where if you die in the middle of a fight it will rez you with half health and toss you right back into the fight. Gauntlet was the one I found particularly egregious in this respect. I don't agree with the level of the OP's vitriol, nor the vagueness of the other complaints, but this one isn't wrong.
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			slingers are a hard hard class to play for your first.. they are tissue paper fragile. I know i'm leveling one now as a semi guild challenge.. uggg.. soooo fraggggile Q.Q Q.Q	
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There are encounters in Shiphands and instanced quests (like Drusera) where if you die in the middle of a fight it will rez you with half health and toss you right back into the fight. Gauntlet was the one I found particularly egregious in this respect. I don't agree with the level of the OP's vitriol, nor the vagueness of the other complaints, but this one isn't wrong.
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This is a great heads-up regarding the Gauntlet - there's supposed to be a heal that hits you in the penalty boxes as I recall, but sure enough, I jumped in game real quick to double-check and it doesn't seem to be firing! Thanks for the bug report; we'll dig into it.
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So, you find a bug that no one has reported or noticed.  You get actual positive developer feedback.  And your response is snark.
 
Really, losing vast amount of sympathy here.  	
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			If the developer feedback had been directed at me and not the person confirming that it did indeed happen I might have been more apologetic. Like I said I hate to diss wildstar it's held my interest for 7 weeks with swtor being a sideshow on my hard drive. It still is an unforgiving mmo with only a single story, focus on raiding offering nothing for a casual player. It can only get worse once it goes free to play and the flood gates open to kids and global chat is swamped by adolescent chat	
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But it took a loss of a sub, frustrated noob and a veteran player I'm guessing to get this noticed....even though the same thing happens as drusera....great work.
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Yeah, you lost all sympathy from me as well. You complain about bugs, but do not report them in a productive way, and complain about other issues that are indeed 'learn to play' issues (as much as I dislike that terminology, it applies). I leveled a squishy esper back when they were immobile, light armor, and the lowest dps in the game. Never had issues with soloing any content other than hold outs, they were utter nightmares for me, but found a tactic that worked for them and learned. 
 
You seem quick to gripe, and have used your age as an excuse. I've met top quality raiders at or above your age range, and have had the honor of battling the biggest baddies on nexus beside them. They had health issues, arthritis, deaf, poor eyesight...you name it. But they rose to the challenge instead of cowing to it and eternally earned my respect. 
 
Then a dev comes in your thread and says "oh hey, this is broken, let's fix this!" You then are ungrateful he didn't address you directly in a bug fix? It's not enough he basically said "our bad, getting right on it". Is your psyche so fragile that you need your ass kissed for an "I quit" thread where you did nothing correctly? No bug report, no reaching out to the community for help(we are by a huge margin very open to helping noobs, I give assault esper advice all day), and no gratitude for those willing to discuss this and try to help you now, and a lack of rudimentary in game skills by your own admission. At least that's how I read the QQ portion.
 
 
Good luck getting a dev in SWTOR to ever jump on a bug test/fix that fast. Also, good riddance, I'll take f2p players over your self absorbed attitude any day. You talk childish behavior, but need to be coddled like one, while complaining like a toddler throwing a tantrum.
			
				
	Edited June 18, 2015 by Anathema<Subterfuge>	
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 After initial enjoyment of the game I finally couldn't take anymore...why? Well I know some people like Mario aspects of gameplay and some people like jumping around, many mmo's have them like swtor. but these features are normally a side feature such as titles, achievements etc.....not part of a bloody quest line....we're not all 20 yr olds bought up on Mario...some of us are in our 50's with not so nimble fingers.
Community...way too small and unhelpful to say the least. Quests, now I don't mind dying, but to die and respawn at what should be a safe spot and be automatically engaged with mobs that killed me bloody stupid (forgot what ship hand mission it was. This morning during a quest Drusera and I became one...great I thought, now I died again, respawned and was instantly attacked by same mobs that killed me, again and again and again! I kept chipping away the bosses health between respawns eventually killing it....only cost me 27 gold in repairs after that encounter. Frustration encountered in this game is beyond belief. Gameplay is virtually a solitary affair unless you've played since release. You can reach 50 solo...as I did but what's after? These problems are prevalent on global chat not just encountered by me. For any new players dungeon runs are pretty nigh on impossible. Quote from a new 50 healer in guild chat..."How hard is it to heal in a vet dungeon?" poor chap level 50 with no experiences of healing in dungeons....great eh?
 
/rant off
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			That's adorable.	
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			Looks like this thread has run it's course, so I'm going to lock it up.	
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