144366-ttk-in-low-lvl-pvp

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Dear Devs. TTK in low lvl pvp/dungeons is too high. You lose players by the minute. Questing is too tedious people are used to level via Dungeons (PvE) or BGs (PvP). They are used to have fun= Blast through content Pwn Noobs and have fun while doing it. The aim is max level and then grind for gear to master Raids and Arenas (Challanges). Your problem is, there is no fun in leveling through Dungeons and BGs.
Everything takes AGES to kill. Low level dungeons shouldnt feel like Raidbosses nore should other players in pvp.
 
TTK for everything makes you feel weak. You reroll. Weak again reroll.....and so on. Everything feels weak. You quit. Frustration is not the reason to play a game. There is why the majority quit your game. They don't feel powerfull (power phantasy anyone). They feel weak and thats why they quit.
 
P.S. Noone cares how max level is the road to max should be fun and you should feel like a badass, If not you will quit. Power phantasy is what makes or breaks a game and noone since WoW knew that.
If a player feels weak all the time there is no reason to keep playing till somewhere in the future you maybe be stronger.
			
				
	Edited October 20, 2015 by Chimmy81	
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			I'm leveling a warrior in bgs since the f2p launch. I feel pretty powerful, but that could be the warrior. 	
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Lol toxic feedback 
 
Chimmy, you're as adorable here as you were in the PvP thread of the same topic.
 
Also no, if this became a PvP were people can be burst down in 5 seconds, I would quit. 
			
				
	Edited October 20, 2015 by zombiechan	
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			So your complain is basically that the content Wildstar provides pre-50 is challenging and not just button smashing? k	
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Lol toxic feedback
 
Chimmy, you're as adorable here as you were in the PvP thread of the same topic.
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I would reply with better feedback if your first reply to me wasn't you being a cupcake. There's quite a bit wrong with PvP, low level ttk is not even close to the top. 
 
Also fanboys ignore problems, I'm quite critical about the big mistake Wildstar is making. But if we make classes able to burst down players in seconds, everyone will hate it. No one wants to try carrying a mask in walatiki and then die 15 seconds after picking it up.	
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So your complain is basically that the content Wildstar provides pre-50 is challenging and not just button smashing? k
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Again...Black and White analogy. There is much room between 5 minutes and seconds.
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			I don't agree that low level dungeon monsters take forever to kill. I haven't done much low level PVP recently but I never felt that there was a huge issue with trying to kill people.. Also if everyone in low level PVP died in 3 hits, it would not be a good place to learn how to do PVP on your character and it would surely make you feel pretty weak aswell. I'm not sure it would be that much fun either. Everyone has these "if you don't do what I tell you, then the game will lose players!" posts...	
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I would reply with better feedback if your first reply to me wasn't you being a cupcake. There's quite a bit wrong with PvP, low level ttk is not even close to the top.
 
Also fanboys ignore problems, I'm quite critical about the big mistake Wildstar is making. But if we make classes able to burst down players in seconds, everyone will hate it. No one wants to try carrying a mask in walatiki and then die 15 seconds after picking it up.
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Again...Black and White analogy. There is much room between 5 minutes and seconds.
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I don't agree that low level dungeon monsters take forever to kill. I haven't done much low level PVP recently but I never felt that there was a huge issue with trying to kill people.. Also if everyone in low level PVP died in 3 hits, it would not be a good place to learn how to do PVP on your character and it would surely make you feel pretty weak aswell. I'm not sure it would be that much fun either. Everyone has these "if you don't do what I tell you, then the game will lose players!" posts...
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			You speak for 90% of gamers who quit? Because the people that I know who quit Wildstar did not quit due to ttk. They quit because of bugs, server lag, questing too boring, unbalance of PvP gear, premades, the new tuning system, they hate the graphics, it's too much like WoW. But I never heard anyone who quit over ttk.	
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Sounds more like you're having problems focusing the healer in PVP to me. 
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You speak for 90% of gamers who quit? Because the people that I know who quit Wildstar did not quit due to ttk. They quit because of bugs, server lag, questing too boring, unbalance of PvP gear, premades, the new tuning system, they hate the graphics, it's too much like WoW. But I never heard anyone who quit over ttk.
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			Ahh yes the 7 friends, I have 8 friends who would of stayed with the game if it took 10 mins to kill people in PvP. So I beat you.	
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			...you're missing the point of the LOWBIE pvp bracket which is to learn TEAM play NOT solo killing...wanna solo kill go duel your brains out...I love peeps like you i'll drag you all the way back to my back to my gy ent to base where my FRIENDS are waiting...lowbie pvp is about gettin gear learnin team comps ie not just dps/support/tank but which amps abilities synergize with the other classes  and what the heck the objectives are without dying in 5s make sense? this is why TTK is high...at 50 you die in a blink...oh and also go Dominion for DOMINATION!	
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			I've heard the opposite complaint in low level PvP. That everything is too much on steroids and people die too fast compared to level 50 PvP. Heck people were even yelling to lowbies to stick it out, because PvP isn't this fast at level 50 o_O	
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 I am not here to hurt your precious game, i am here to show the way to do it right.
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This sounds like a learn to play issue for me.
 
I have no problem bursting down people in low level battlegrounds on my Esper, Slinger or Warrior. I've seen DPs Medics burst down groups of folk pre 50. In fact, the is a medic I keep seeing, Sue Bennet (I think that's the right surname, my memory aint what it was) that's absolutely slaughtering folk as a Medic in the 30-49 section. Arguably one of the best DPS Medics i've seen in a long time.
 
I see people trying to take down Engi's and tank specced Warriors while they have a healbot, that's always fun to watch.
 
My Engi is tank specced and the amount of people that focus on me and not the Esper stood behind me keeping my health topped up is hilarious. Same thing happens in every battleground. In Tiki Temple, a mask spawns and I stand on it, someone heals me while my team run around and pick them off but I always get a Stalker or two and at least one Slinger try and focus me down so they can get the mask. Completely ignoring my healer.
 
Same in halls. I stand on a point to stop cap or after I cap with a pocket healer stood to the side. They run on to the platform and go for me while leaving them alone.
 
Granted my DPS is terrible, I sacrifice assault power for support and my talents are aimed at keeping me alive. I can't solo kill anything with a self heal, my damage is to low but it's very rare I get brought down by anyone on their own. That TTK is low because i'm a damn tank. I'd expect it to be. Anyone struggling to squash DPS characters without healers needs to sort out their talents.
			
				
	Edited October 20, 2015 by Gomly	
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