Report 452

Report #452
Skillset: Necroscream Skill: TortureSong
 Org: Cacophony Status: Completed Dec 2010
Furies' Decision:
Solution 1 but with 15% increments.
Problem: TortureSong does between 150 and 200 bleeding damage when the target
writhes out of any physical cords (web, truss). Compared to other lower
Necroscream song effects this is not worth using. The target can also bypass the
effect entirely by using summer or tipheret to get out of their binding.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #1: If the target writhe out of their binding with no
 plague afflictions, TortureSong will do the same
 bleeding damage it does now (150-200). For each
 plague affliction the target has bleed damage will
 increase by 50%.
Player Comments:
---[Senna on 12/7 @ 17:42 writes]:
Agreed, for a guild that doesn't have any focus on or synergy with bleeding, the
bleeding from TortureSong is pretty minimal. This can be (possibly) rationalized
by the fact that it's an early skill and low stanza effect, and if it stays low,
it shouldn't be made too powerful, especially as Necroscrem already has pretty
powerful low stanza effects - VileBlood, UndeadBlues, and NecroBallad in
particular.
---[Raeri on 12/10 @ 07:42 writes]:
I think 50% is too high, and scales too heavily. With say, 4 plague affs, it
becomes 450-600 bleeding from web, and it just goes up from there. Which
afflictions would count towards this, and would there be a ceiling?
---[Xenthos on 12/11 @ 01:57 writes]:
Could make it do 25-50 more bleeding per plague affliction instead of +50%.
Would still be a noticeable addition (with three plague affs nearly doubling the
bleeding if it rolls the upper end of the range), while a bit more balanced than
+50% per.
---[Ridley on 12/16 @ 18:22 writes]:
I agree with Xenthos's proposal. 50% would get out of hand.
---[Talan on 12/17 @ 06:49 writes]:
Given how you're able to stack up the plague affs, and given it's a low level
song, I think any more than a flat 25 additional bleed damage per plague aff
becomes too much. The usefulness of torturesong seems to be as an accompaniment
to your targeted high stanza song, giving it ~200 bleed damage in addition to
its other effects - you might be downplaying that a bit. I'd support it on the
smaller scale, the synergy is nice.
---[Prav on 12/18 @ 21:28 writes]:
Think 50% might be a bit high, but 25 flat is way low. I'd consider 35% to 35% a
good compromise which puts it in line with Xenthos' suggestion of 25-50 flat,
above.
---[Prav on 12/18 @ 21:28 writes]:
Sorry, the above should have said 30% to 35%.
---[Talan on 12/19 @ 03:52 writes]:
An effect with the amount of bleeding being proposed here by Estwald or Prav
would equate to, in addition to their myriad other effects, cacophony being able
to achieve the bleeding of Harbingers (basically our -only- effect!) for 0p.
Putting a % sign next to any of these numbers is just bonkers.
---[Fillin on 12/26 @ 16:17 writes]:
Talan, it sounds like you are misunderstanding what the effect does. The
bleeding only occurs upon writhing out of an entanglement, not passive like
harbingers. I believe you can even bypass it entirely with tipheret, but not
sure on that.