118032-why-are-people-so-negative-on-here

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			Its super annoying. Isn't anyone ever happy?? Please go eat a cupcake or something!! I know I know I can always just ignore it lol Just please smile today everyone! :)	
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One day we'll all look back on these wacky early days of the game and reminisce fondly about them, like plate wearers in WoW and those huge repair bills they used to incur.
 
And all the people who are perpetually negative now will be telling new players then how much better this game was in the early days.	
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Its super annoying. Isn't anyone ever happy?? Please go eat a cupcake or something!! I know I know I can always just ignore it lol Just please smile today everyone! :)
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			There are so many reasons....	
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lol,
 
This place is very tame compared to many. However when you remove the filter from someone you get stronger commentary. In the case of a game like this one the happy people are probably not on the forums, they're in the game.	
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I don't think there is a lot to be happy about. Sure drop 3 has some awesome QOL updates, but other than that its pretty much like drop #1 & #2 (new zone with the boring same daily quests, quests that no one will do more than 32-36 times anyway) but delayed by almost 1½ month.
 
Delayed to ensure a minimal amount of bugs, but then we login and we see several bugs within 10 minutes of playing.
 
We pay $15 a month for this game and there a f2p out there that manages much better. But we still play wildstar, but why? Awesome, challenging dungeons and raids.
 
People still around here loves the game, but they also know that there are a lot of glaring issues.	
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Not unhappy but there are a few legitimate reasons to rant when they release a new patch they said polished but with an astounding number of bugs. None of them are game breaking they're just freaking annoying. The new patch created a significant number of QoL issues. Sure we can work around them but it's a bit frustrating. That doesn't mean the game is bad it just means that we put some pressure on Carbine so that they're up to their promise. They promised they would fix bugs and then changed so many elements of the game at once that the new changes made the game appear buggier than it was.
 
That's why quarterly patches are bad for anything but content, they tweak too much stuff at once and then everything looks very messy and unpolished.	
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One day we'll all look back on these wacky early days of the game and reminisce fondly about them, like plate wearers in WoW and those huge repair bills they used to incur.
 
And all the people who are perpetually negative now will be telling new players then how much better this game was in the early days.
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 In the case of a game like this one the happy people are probably not on the forums, they're in the game.
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People on here usually aren't happy.  Worse, they tend to be rather obnoxiously unhappy. 
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			Bugs still in game from launch and questionable ui changes. Why change the minimap party icon to a face... They made so many changes to the ui that make 0 sense. I don't know how this drop took 3months	
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			I actually found the house zone on my exile toon briefly happy. They were talking about how bad it was on head start and this was nothing. I reminisced and was like, "Yeah, head start....sigh*** good times." Then I went to my dominion toons.....ugh >.> All day lol 	
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They made so many changes to the ui that make 0 sense.
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			Being negative isn't necessarily a bad thing, if you are constructive about it. So far, as a not-quite-max-level player, I have only had minimal problems, mostly UI issues and lag, really really bad lag. 	
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			People are negative because we were lied to. Repeatedly.	
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I'm going with "in your face bugs, that don't get fixed, and new ones that pop up every patch". Like the latest patch, nobody has visible gadgets, LAS swapping bugs, crafting bugs etc etc. These are things everyone notices and is affected by. And people get tired of it. CS is pretty much a QA joke at this point. They need to fire everyone in that department and hire talent.  :)
 
I'm happy that they fixed X number of minor bugs, but the major ones that are truly annoying seem to go unnoticed. 	
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Its super annoying. Isn't anyone ever happy?? Please go eat a cupcake or something!! I know I know I can always just ignore it lol Just please smile today everyone! :)
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Its the internet happy comes here to die.
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People are negative because we were lied to. Repeatedly.
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			Carbine hyped up the game and promised all sort of things, then didn't deliver.	
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What? you mean like every modern game coming out now??
 
Just the times we live in my friend	
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Because the 2 step verification on my account have yet to be removed so that I can attach it to my new phone, because codes on my old phone suddenly doesn't work after having been unsubbed for some months now.
 
I am a little bitter because I can not play and customer support is still slow, even now and I have even subscribed again, thinking that everything would be good to go.
 
Damnit carbine support.	
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We were? If you look at everything that was said to by carbine, they in fact told us the truth and have been nothing but open and honest about everything. Just because your bitter doesn't mean you need to say crap like that.
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Personally, I think it's fairly normal on game forums for people to vent their game frustrations. Granted, some people use it constructively, but many just use as a dumping ground for anger and an outlet for general venom spewing. 
 
You can tell a lot about the post simply by looking at who posted it. The good news is our game mods are good at ferreting out 'click bait' posts.
 
Morning Coffee is a nice place to discuss the game without all the general horrible-ness of the General Discussion arena.  :wub:	
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Yes, actually, we were lied to.  We were promised monthly updates, holidays, and client optimizations that never happened.  Just because they openly reneged on their promises, doesn't mean they weren't lying to us.
 
It's like going to a restaurant after seeing a hamburger commercial and then when you get there, they say "sorry, you're getting a hot dog instead" .
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Yes, actually, we were lied to.  We were promised monthly updates, holidays, and client optimizations that never happened.  Just because they openly reneged on their promises, doesn't mean they weren't lying to us.
 
It's like going to a restaurant after seeing a hamburger commercial and then when you get there, they say "sorry, you're getting a hot dog instead" .
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edit: Shish- I forgot to quote. LOL
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Because the 2 step verification on my account have yet to be removed so that I can attach it to my new phone, because codes on my old phone suddenly doesn't work after having been unsubbed for some months now.
 
I am a little bitter because I can not play and customer support is still slow, even now and I have even subscribed again, thinking that everything would be good to go.
 
Damnit carbine support.
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Did you put in a ticket? I've had this done twice.. the first time took 2 or so hours, the second was less than 20 minutes.	
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edit: Shish- I forgot to quote. LOL
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Because the 2 step verification on my account have yet to be removed so that I can attach it to my new phone, because codes on my old phone suddenly doesn't work after having been unsubbed for some months now.
 
I am a little bitter because I can not play and customer support is still slow, even now and I have even subscribed again, thinking that everything would be good to go.
 
Damnit carbine support.
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Did you put in a ticket? I've had this done twice.. the first time took 2 or so hours, the second was less than 20 minutes.
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Loving the game and the most recent updates!
 
1. DPS was balanced with classes in GA raids last night
2. Classes starting to use buffs/debuffs that benefit other classes not just themselves
3. QOL: Fading chat, hud: smily faces of party members, whisper use much easier.
4. QOL: I can see if a heavy armor piece looks cool on my medium armor class for costume purposes (without downloading an addon)
5. Mobs are harder so I actually have to play my class and switch LAS's frequently to do various quests solo.
6. Battlegrounds have 1800 gear!!!!
7. My housing plot hot-tub is almost full from the tears of this forums whining cry babies. - "But you said something and its now how I imagined it would be!! WAHHH WAHHH WAHH!!!!!!"
8. CRY MORE!!!!! >=)
 
-L. Crow	
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I resubbed yesterday after being out for the last 3 months. I'm looking forward to giving Wildstar another run with Drop 3. I'm glad that rune slots are more flexible, there's more money from mobs, Technologist tree is fleshed out, attunement is more achievable, AMP and AP points are easier to unlock, etc. Basically, I'm hoping the game is more rewarding of my time. I unsubbed because the game felt like a brick wall before.
 
Hopefully there are more like me, and the game you enjoy gets a boost. There's some positives for ya. :)	
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I just wanna get back into the game and destroy monsters :(
 
Meh, remove 2 step verification already so that I can play :'(	
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I just wanna get back into the game and destroy monsters :(
 
Meh, remove 2 step verification already so that I can play :'(
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I wonder how backlogged CS is right now with the 2FA stuff.  A lot of people coming back, and they run into the wall of their own protection because they changed phones or hardware.
 
Hope they get it fixed for you fast.
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It makes me bitter, I had hoped these kinds of issues would be the kind that was fixed within a much shorter time.
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Why are people bitter? 
 
After the better part of two decades you'd think developers would know how to deliver and support a stable game, yet they all keep making the same stupid mistakes.  Simple concepts like: If it's broke, don't ship it.  If it's not tested, don't ship it!  Somebody's greenlighting some obviously broken changes.  I'm looking at you chat text-fade. <_<
 
Part of the problem is that the computer gaming industry has gotten away with extremely poor quality because their product has a very limited shelf life.  MMO's cannot get away with that.  They require real engineering instead of whatever Red Bull inspired spaghetti code that is normally thrown over the wall.  The successful games have figured this out (at a heavy cost).
 
"You don't have their uber sekaret source code so you're wrong!"  On the contrary we have quite a large sampling of their work in the form of the stock addons.  It ain't pretty and it's getting worse. 	
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Chua think should be happy got hot dog and not grinded hot dogs in hamburger form and then told is hamburger.
Carbine been open and honest about changes. Should be more understanding and happy is getting something at all.
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Yes, actually, we were lied to.  We were promised monthly updates, holidays, and client optimizations that never happened.  Just because they openly reneged on their promises, doesn't mean they weren't lying to us.
 
It's like going to a restaurant after seeing a hamburger commercial and then when you get there, they say "sorry, you're getting a hot dog instead" .
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Actually, if you stopped white knighting for a second and did a simple Google search, you would find a bevy of promises that were never delivered upon.
 
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I've not being GIVEN anything, I'm grinding CRED for a service and in return, I'm receiving...Well, let's ask Carbine themselves what I'm receiving...
 
 
Why should I be grateful to receive what the developers themselves think of as an antiquated service model?
 
 
Actually, if you stopped white knighting for a second and did a simple Google search, you would find a bevy of promises that were never delivered upon.
 
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Why are people bitter? 
 
After the better part of two decades you'd think developers would know how to deliver and support a stable game, yet they all keep making the same stupid mistakes.  Simple concepts like: If it's broke, don't ship it.  If it's not tested, don't ship it!  Somebody's greenlighting some obviously broken changes.  I'm looking at you chat text-fade. <_<
 
Part of the problem is that the computer gaming industry has gotten away with extremely poor quality because their product has a very limited shelf life.  MMO's cannot get away with that.  They require real engineering instead of whatever Red Bull inspired spaghetti code that is normally thrown over the wall.  The successful games have figured this out (at a heavy cost).
 
"You don't have their uber sekaret source code so you're wrong!"  On the contrary we have quite a large sampling of their work in the form of the stock addons.  It ain't pretty and it's getting worse.
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Yes, actually, we were lied to.  We were promised monthly updates, holidays, and client optimizations that never happened.  Just because they openly reneged on their promises, doesn't mean they weren't lying to us.
 
It's like going to a restaurant after seeing a hamburger commercial and then when you get there, they say "sorry, you're getting a hot dog instead" .
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Please go eat a cupcake or something!!
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Yes it is, every time. Integrity is something earned and revered. Something the white knighter's defending this game seem to overlook or could care less about because they lack honesty and integrity and can whitewash away all the bad with their thick blinders.
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People lie to you all the time for some reason or other. That's not always a bad thing,
 
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"Do I look fat in this?"
"Yep."
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"You know I'm not going to answer that kind of question"
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I believe it was John Lennon who famously said "Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans."
 
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Friedrich Nietzsche once said "I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you."
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
So, two things now happen...
 
1. As a consumer, I and others use our rights to express our pleasure or displeasure with a product in the appropriate forum if we choose to.  
 
2. The true villains of the forums come out of the woodwork and attack because they can't possibly fathom that people will have opinions that differ with theirs.  
 
I've never once said that people are wrong for praising the game.  However, if I point out that people do, in fact, have just cause for not praising the game(notice that I have never said anything negative about Wildstar), the Carbine justice warriors come out of the woodwork.
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Your guess is as good as mine Geara.
 
While I see the value in negative criticism, some folks seem to take it to an unnecessary extreme. I've seen more than a few debates boil down into simple, thinly-veiled, name-calling and slander. These are just a few examples of the thing's I've seen thrown around:
 
 
 
"If you protect the game or Carbine in anyway, you're a white-knighting fanboi/fangurl."
 
"If you do not enjoy playing the game the same way I do, you should either be forced to play my way or unsub."
 
"I only play on *insert server type* servers. If you don't play on *insert server type* you're a carebear/newb/failure at life."
 
and so on...
 
 
 
Seriously, folks can be downright nasty to both the devs and each other. At the end of the day, I know that it is to be expected on a game forum and is not fully representative of the in-game community (the overwhelming majority of the player base does not visit the forums) but it still disappoints me sometimes. :(	
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Friedrich Nietzsche once said "I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you."
 
So, two things now happen...
 
1. As a consumer, I and others use our rights to express our pleasure or displeasure with a product in the appropriate forum if we choose to.  
 
2. The true villains of the forums come out of the woodwork and attack because they can't possibly fathom that people will have opinions that differ with theirs.  
 
I've never once said that people are wrong for praising the game.  However, if I point out that people do, in fact, have just cause for not praising the game(notice that I have never said anything negative about Wildstar), the Carbine justice warriors come out of the woodwork.
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There's a MAJOR piece of the puzzle you're missing there.  Games today aren't games of 20 years ago.
 
Games of 20 years ago had bugs (looking at you, Zelda floor crashing bug), but those games were a million times simpler than what we have now.  Like, actually, a million times simpler.  Games have grown in orders of magnitude not just in size, but in complexity.  It's not a matter of build quality v build speed, but a simple matter of the games simply being so damn big.
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Friedrich Nietzsche once said "I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you."
 
So, two things now happen...
 
1. As a consumer, I and others use our rights to express our pleasure or displeasure with a product in the appropriate forum if we choose to.  
 
2. The true villains of the forums come out of the woodwork and attack because they can't possibly fathom that people will have opinions that differ with theirs.  
 
I've never once said that people are wrong for praising the game.  However, if I point out that people do, in fact, have just cause for not praising the game(notice that I have never said anything negative about Wildstar), the Carbine justice warriors come out of the woodwork.
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Your guess is as good as mine Geara.
 
While I see the value in negative criticism, some folks seem to take it to an unnecessary extreme. I've seen more than a few debates boil down into simple, thinly-veiled, name-calling and slander. These are just a few examples of the thing's I've seen thrown around:
 
 
 
"If you protect the game or Carbine in anyway, you're a white-knighting fanboi/fangurl."
 
"If you do not enjoy playing the game the same way I do, you should either be forced to play my way or unsub."
 
"I only play on *insert server type* servers. If you don't play on *insert server type* you're a carebear/newb/failure at life."
 
and so on...
 
 
 
Seriously, folks can be downright nasty to both the devs and each other. At the end of the day, I know that it is to be expected on a game forum and is not fully representative of the in-game community (the overwhelming majority of the player base does not visit the forums) but it still disappoints me sometimes. :(
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Usually gaming companies don't "lie". Sometimes they can't deliver because of technical issues (and then they should state it), but it's still not the most common case. Usually people think they've been lied to when what is delivered isn't what they expected. If a devs says "ok i'll look into X and see if there are any issues" that doesn't mean he'll find issues, he may think it's ok and fine, if you disagree well ultimately you're not the person in charge. If a dev says they're going to "improve Z" that doesn't mean it's going to be your way. And yet people call devs liars when they change stuff but not the way they want.
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"Oh' its ok there's always bugs."
 
Then why change from a 1 month schedule to a 3 month release schedule? That was THE PRIMARY THING that Carbine claimed the change would improve.
 
I have no interest in persuading (or frankly even engaging with) the white knights who feel that all is right with the world and that every mistake on parade this week is excusable. It's not, and the people who can make a difference know good and well it's not. So how can they get better moving forward? I don't know. But I know another 90+ days of waiting for them to actually fix reported issues prior to flinging them out in the wild should be getting some serious scrutiny right now. I know that having whole departments go off on a tear changing (read "screwing up") stuff that worked is not using your time well (new harvest node icons. Every. Day. Carbine.). I know that stunts like wildly rushing off to change the timer on recall to capital in a way that obsoletes a path skill is just a sign in a larger pattern of THOUGHTLESSNESS in managing this game.
 
I'm not asking you to move faster.
 
Or slower.
 
I'm asking you to use your time better.	
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And I sit here with a serious issue.
 
I have paid a subscription fee for a game I cannot play because I have a security feature attached to my account which I can not get rid of because I lack the device which I used when I first attached the security feature to my account.
 
Let us all be friends and be angry about me not being able to play right now.	
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 Software engineering has evolved but the computer games segment keeps turning its nose up at recognized best practices.
 
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And I sit here with a serious issue.
 
I have paid a subscription fee for a game I cannot play because I have a security feature attached to my account which I can not get rid of because I lack the device which I used when I first attached the security feature to my account.
 
Let us all be friends and be angry about me not being able to play right now.
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I think the bottom line is people are bitter on social media, and are more impatient as years go by. This leads to a running negative commentary, because pack mentality rules. You see it in comments on CNN (anyone notice that more often than not comments on CNN articles are disabled now?)
 
While the sharing of some information is a great planetary leap forward, the internet and social media are a vast playground and we as a species really aren't quite grown up enough to deal with it. Over time we will be, certainly, but that's down the road a piece. Maybe in a generation or three.
 
After all, its a game. And while I agree that we all do pay the same $15 a month to play... it's still a game. bitching over and over about the same thing just creates a negative place that only the negative people enjoy. Or in a few cases, the knights stand against the tide.
 
Yep, I said that. I'm a white knight and I'm damned proud of it. I love this game, and I hate coming here and reading about people threatening to quit and sue and all the other garbage that goes along with said feelings of entitlement.	
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"Do I look fat in this?"
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Baloney.
 
Technology has evolved but it's mostly been at the graphical level.  The size inflation you're pointing out is mostly art assets.  That and we're not hand coding in assembler to eke out enough performance for things to be playable.
 
Games development should be quite a bit easier, which is kinda my point.  The reason things are still in such a sorry state is that the vast majority of development shops build everything from scratch when perfectly usable pre-built modules exist. 
 
Ignoring the predilection of NIH-syndrome, the other failure is code quality.  It's provably bad and provably getting worse.  Ask anybody that's looked at the stock chat addon.
 
 
Poor analogy. On the whole, cars are significantly more reliable than they used to be due in no small part to global competition.  If we had to compare the two industries, the computer games industry is the equivalent of the US auto industry around the 70's (awful).  The US auto industry had a serious pain point when the former laughingstocks of the Japanese auto industry completely leapfrogged their quality.  Software engineering has evolved but the computer games segment keeps turning its nose up at recognized best practices.
 
I'm still somewhat astonished that somebody emphasizing quality over squeezing every last cent out of their players hasn't emerged.
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Anyhow, point being, software systems have the potential to be extremely complex, and best practices are in the eye of the beholder quite frequently.  The two to combine something that is as much black magic as science :-). 
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Even the little things are exponentially more complicated on the back end.
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​People are forgetting that bugs can be very difficult to replicate at times as well, I've seen no bugs at all so far unless you count an addon or two and my gadget honestly never had any problem. My gadget wasn't even bugged when I Iogged in, worked fine and has since yesterday.
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			Remove my authenticator carbine so that I can play! :'( ET please.	
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I'm basically never happy or satisfied but I choose my battles.  Not going to spend a ton of my negative energy focusing on video games of all things, there are more worthy parades to rain on.
 
From someone who is a career pessimist I think drop 3 is a glass half empty (but at least it's water and not something worse) kind of patch.  It's a step in the right direction and I can point to at least 3 things in the patch that didn't make me squint in anger:
 
The runes are now clear as to what the element is both before and after they're socketed
Flame Burst can now be cast whenever
I have something to do while not raiding now with the process of re-runing / adding slots to my items
That doesn't happen often.	
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Heh... I suppose my usage of the "best practices" phrase is a bit less trendy.  I mean things like "Uses source code control.  Has actually taken a college level data structures and algorithms course.  Doesn't use the database as IPC.  Doesn't use ini files when a database is obviously appropriate."
 
Development methodology (Agile, et. al.) absolutely requires buy-in from all levels of an organization otherwise you just get chaos.
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Yeah, and sometimes you'd be amazed what people do and don't notice.  I'm assuming my gadget isn't displaying correctly; I didn't even look.  Since I fire it up on my overdrive cooldowns (since they share one), I never even look at my gadget slot in combat, much less when I'm not fighting.  I actually logged in and played last night, but I'm taking as read that my gadget must not be showing up correctly because even though it's right in front of me the whole time, I never even look at it.
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And they wouldn't have gotten THIS far without those things (in general -- I don't know what they're doing for process communication naturally).  There are obviously some issues with their branching discipline but it's not obvious that these things are easily avoided when you've got a mixture of super-hot fixes (things that fold into low-test high urgency hotfixes), high systemic urgency things like runes and itemization, a host of medium urgency things like essential quest fixes but are difficult to replicate unless you have 200,000 people doing stupid stuff to spider eggs, even more low urgency but quick and dirty easy to fix things, and just oddball things like the art department deciding that hey the recall flyout would look so much better on the left than the right.
 
It's not a trivial task by any means.
 
I suppose my own irritation mainly gets triggered when things are identified on the PTR but make it live.  I expect issues as features are folded in, but when you crowdsource your testing, that's the time you have to execute even better because folks are paying attention.  I personally don't know if PTR is all that useful, but I've been somewhat conditioned by Blizzard in this respect.  As far back as I can remember (and one of the reasons I quit playing) was when people would report issues with classes on the PTR and not only did they go live, but Blizzard EMBRACED them.  It became painfully obvious that PTR was a marketing tool, and not an honest effort to test anything.
 
I think Carbine behaves better in this respect thus far, but it's still painful when I see things like the crafted weapon runeslot addition bug go live.
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The core engine itself seems to be pretty solid and holy crap, working shadows!  If you look past the art style it's really a fantastic renderer.  With all the money Blizzard has, a year should be have been more than enough to deliver something better than their updated renderer in 6.0.x but that may have been an art issue.
 
From a programming standpoint, it looks like their glaring weakness is scripting.  How much trained engineering talent does their team have as opposed to art or mission design folks that picked up a bit of LUA?	
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I honestly couldn't hazard a guess.  I've only looked at the 100' surface level of what Houston does.  Prioritywise I suspect it just doesn't compete well with the truly mission critical things.  And par for the course as well.  I have had many long discussions with a well respected addon developer for WoW and he had lots of horror stories about WoW's own default LUA UI scripts.  Thus, I find myself unsurprised when another firm with a strong heritage from that tree has similar issues.
 
Anyhow, enough said from my county seat.	
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Why should I be grateful to receive what the developers themselves think of as an antiquated service model?
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It may interest you to know that the people that you're quoting for their explicitly broken promises have both also explicitly stopped working at Carbine for reasons that they have explicitly promised have nothing at all to do with being unable to live up to their promises.
 
 
And I once said "It must have sucked to be a troll before there was an internet". I'm pretty sure Nietzsche couldn't hear me, unfortunately. I'm sure he would've appreciated the modern terms to describe people who practice the kind of polemics that were his bread and butter.
 
If you are suggesting that now you'll never be able to take Carbine at their word, all I can really say is: you never should have done that in the first place, silly. When people tell you they're going to do something that many people before them have also said they'd do but then proven unable to live up to, skepticism is appropriate.
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Negative?
 
I'll have you know I'm a big ole ray of sunshine :D	
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Yes, actually, we were lied to.  We were promised monthly updates, holidays, and client optimizations that never happened.  Just because they openly reneged on their promises, doesn't mean they weren't lying to us.
 
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Yea, this is slightly different. Let's try this:
You have a boy/girlfriend and are mad in love with her. You tell her you love her. Over the three months of your relationship, things slowly break down, for whatever reason, and at the end you can hardly stand the sight of each other. You split up. Were you lying when you said you loved her three months ago?
 
Things change. Plans made do not account for all variables. If you can't accept that without assuming you were lied to you must have a hard time living in the real world.
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Why are people so negative on this forum? Why is lol negative? why is blizzard?
 
simply put:
 
Disappointment!!!!! That and majority of the community are just getting bashed since alot of people are pissed that
those wow players where right about this game going f2p or shutting down considering they lost 60+ employees, drops were delayed for
a few months and WOD being around the corner (since all those wow fanboys always buy the next crappy expasion.) which will be about the time you will
see the population drop.
 
That sum it up for you?
 
Wan't my advice? start looking for alternatives to mmos, primarily games made to last like terraria, dragon age origins, no man's sky (coming soon)
mincraft in space (starmade), borderlands if you like fps with you diablo, diablo 2, path of exile, etc. etc.
 
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You want negative?
 
Have a look in the wod forums right now. It's like staring into the sun :D	
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			^ aint dat the truth xD	
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You want negative?
 
Have a look in the wod forums right now. It's like staring into the sun :D
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Hi folks, 
 
Just a little nudge to get this back on topic talking about WildStar please, if you want to talk about other video games we have off topic for that - or if preferred I can move this thread. :) 
 
Thank you!
- Team WildStar 	
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Did a quick visit there after reading the previous comments. I don't enjoy going back there really.
 
Hmm..I still think it works in their favor.. because instead of focusing on the real problems of their expansion, everyone just complains because they want to play more and it is not working.
 
Blizzard has a 10 year understanding of their customer and can handle it.	
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I'm nothing but positive now that Drop 3 totally fixed all my lag/framerate issues! Playing last night was the smoothest it's been for me in quite a long time.
 
Thanks Carbine, keep up the good work!	
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Apologies for that Chillia. I wil reply on the topic of the thread as well.
 
To the OP, I think it mostly has to do with the intense expectations that were placed on this drop (even by us the players). There was a spotlight on it.. and as such, expectations.
 
While I am happy with what we have so far (dare I say without getting stabbed please?), I feel that is not the case with everyone. For what it is worth, I am having fun playing, so the game fulfills its purpose. Note, I am not just having some fun.. I am actually having a blast. :D
 
I am a bit intimidated by all the bug reports sprouting and as a result I can see many players entering a witch bug hunt mode. Not really a good thing when it shifts their attention from enjoying the new content.. but I wonder if actually many see it also as a challenge (a game in itself perhaps) to prove that releasing flawless content is impossible.
 
One of the positive parts is how well the W* team handled everything. I felt spoiled as a gamer when I saw them reply to posts instantly, address and solve bugs and even offering solutions until the next hotfixes. (did I say thank you?.. well thank you! :))
 
In the meantime, I will try to focus on having fun playing. Forum PvP is not my cup of tea..	
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I just wanna get back into the game and destroy monsters :(
 
Meh, remove 2 step verification already so that I can play :'(
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			i thought a lot of it, as well as a lot of BS aimed at WS (especially the massive amounts of misinfo ) had a lot to do with people basically getting spoiled (or even just getting so used to a particular way of things that anything else shocks them) after so long with other games. many expect a decade of polish, zero bugs, perfect balance, right out of the gate/ upon release. not to mention, whatever else they cry out for with forks and knives banging on the table until they get their way. its what theyre used to as after a while its all some have to offer... so when they cant just throw money from whoever at the screen to make things happen faster/NOW. they throw tantrums or cry and leave.	
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			I suppose most of the happy people are simply just playing in-game and have no time in coming forums. :D	
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All 12 of them.
 
Ba-dump-bump!
 
Looking forward to seeing Drop 4 hit the PTR - they've put off the healer and tank review up to this point and I want to see where they're heading with that.	
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			For the most part I gave up the forums and went back to playing without even checking them. Happy enough that I'm on DS and I PvP on off days, I could care less what forum people think anymore personally because I enjoy raiding and PvP.	
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When people are happy with the game they usually play it, talk to their guild mates, etc.
The posts you see where people say good stuff are more often then not from when people can't play the game but are happpy with it ;)	
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When people are happy with the game they usually play it, talk to their guild mates, etc.
The posts you see where people say good stuff are more often then not from when people can't play the game but are happpy with it ;)
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			Perhaps it's because there is a whole segment of the games population that have been left out in the cold for a long time with no lead dev and zero feedback from carbine other than to say, we're working on it trust us, and meanwhile that group of people keeps getting smaller and smaller and it seems like the smaller it gets the less concerned carbine is with actually rectifying the issues. Why should they? After all it's only a tiny portion of the games population being affected by this neglect.	
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			There must be a reason that people are so negative about WildStar but WildStar being a bad or an average game, isn't that reason. On the contrary WildStar is a marvelous game that it needs more people playing it. Bring your friends and family in the game. All of a sudden the game will be better. MUCH better. I promise.	
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Archage are coping the hoverboards now, so carbine did something right :P
I'm really scratching my head where they are going with this though >>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKoioed8Q3g
 
About wildstar, so far there has been improvement with every steps. Sure there are bugs and the gameplay is still imbalanced on some points but you mostly see a positive change with every patch.
At the PvP though can really use some love, silly little mistakes like announcing so early that rating will reset killed the scene and balances to some combo's are still not their yet for arena.
I wish they focus more on that because this one of the few MMO where i like the pvp in.	
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			You'll always get unhappyness in the forums. As some have stated before, the happy players are ussually playing and have little complains about it. The people unhappy with it are vocal. Ironically, they are also the people who care enough about the game to complain about matters. Note that this in now ay means those happy don't care about the game. It just means they don't post as much. Someone who is unhappy enough with the state of matters will not only stop posting, he will also stop playing and go somewhere else. The complainers you see? They want to like the game, and their way of letting Carbine know that is to point out the negative. IE, the things that bother them.	
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