100481-update-notes-7232014

== Content ==
			All players can now get credit for killing creatures in The Nursery and The Guardians of the Grove event.	
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All players can now get credit for killing creatures in The Nursery and The Guardians of the Grove event
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			Disappointment of the week. :(	
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All players can now get credit for killing creatures in The Nursery and The Guardians of the Grove event.
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45 min patch for this ? lol
since last patch i have 30 fps or less and memory leak error.
When the tons of bugs are fixed ?	
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			You may wish to rename the post "Update Note".	
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			dudebro's this was just a server refresh, the added hotfix is a bonus. They took this time to refresh all the servers and give them a break.	
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Um... all righty then? Hoping there's some hidden goodies (AKA bug fixes and such) in this as well.	
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Hello!
 
Please keep in mind that we also take the opportunity of downtime for general maintenance and database work, as well. It isn't always just to add new things. We have a whole slew of bug fixes and new features around the corner, in Drop 2, being prepped for Live very soon!	
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dudebro's this was just a server refresh, the added hotfix is a bonus. They took this time to refresh all the servers and give them a break.
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*Scratches cheek* These patches are usually preludes to the more "meaty" patches. I mean, don't get me wrong, this is kinda laughable when you look at it at face value, but going by their history, they usually put an actual good patch out 3-4 days later. Not to mention server resets, for all the random bugs that pop up.
 
While I think it'd probably be better not to put out patch notes with such small things such as this, as it only inflames those with negative feelings at the moment, if something smallers done before the rest of the patch is...well...why not add it?	
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All players can now get credit for killing creatures in The Nursery and The Guardians of the Grove event.
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			Please push the Stalker Enabler AMP fix to the main client this patch :(	
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Actually I think they are resetting the servers more often because that is the only known fix for the AH crafted items losing stats. It may seem to be a crappy situation but it is still multitudes better than trying to get help through customer support.
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45 min patch for this ? lol
since last patch i have 30 fps or less and memory leak error.
When the tons of bugs are fixed ?
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Or maybe they have a set downtime on the same day every week for general maintenance and so on.  ;)
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			Still no quest titles or text in any blighthaven quests...	
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(Guardians of the Grove Event)
 
Unless I'm very much mistaken...
The "sunquake prehistoric opponents" - idk the correct english word for them - those orbs, that are spawning around the tree if you cant defend him, have now ~113k HP.
 
I've often done the event alone and I'm pretty sure they had significantly less HP. The event takes now ~15-20 minutes longer because of this change while doing it solo :huh:
 
In addition, I get the gems after finishing it a few minutes ago but the task was not completed, although my contribution was in order. Fix that, please.
 
I want the reputation, but I dont want those terrible, irritating timesinks and bugs!
 
Who cares about getting credits if the event is buggy again.
 
Your priorities are strange :(	
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The strain orbs were ninja buffed to have over 112k hp so it simply takes more time to solo.  However, the event is now broken again in that it does not award credit.  It was working last night, and they broke it again.  
 
The patch notes should have read "No players now get credit for killing creatures in The Nursery and The Guardians of the Grove event, and the events are harder for no reward."
 
Why do I get the feeling that Carbine bought Wildstar from some programmer and is trying to get up to speed on how it works?	
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The strain orbs were ninja buffed to have over 112k hp so it simply takes more time to solo.  However, the event is now broken again in that it does not award credit.  It was working last night, and they broke it again.  
 
The patch notes should have read "No players now get credit for killing creatures in The Nursery and The Guardians of the Grove event, and the events are harder for no reward."
 
Why do I get the feeling that Carbine bought Wildstar from some programmer and is trying to get up to speed on how it works?
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			Elyona the mad is still broken.	
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Hello!
 
Please keep in mind that we also take the opportunity of downtime for general maintenance and database work, as well. It isn't always just to add new things. We have a whole slew of bug fixes and new features around the corner, in Drop 2, being prepped for Live very soon!
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Thanks for the fix. Stay strong Carbine,   :P
 
Got credit for tree yesterday and today as well, quest completed. Maybe if you didn't afk through whole event only popping the purple balls around the tree, but rather attacked some strain creatures and die doing so few times, you'd complete the quest too. Scorchwing and Elyona worked everyday since I hit fifty, today included. How do you make up these "problems" ?
 
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	Edited July 23, 2014 by Chillia	
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Um... all righty then? Hoping there's some hidden goodies (AKA bug fixes and such) in this as well.
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Because you know just enough about computers and game development to feel like you can talk the talk, but still lack any real understanding of the subject so you draw incorrect conslusions on a regular basis. Unfortunately instead of saying "darn, I don't really get this" you defend your ego by blaming the developer and making up wild stories like Carbine buying a game from some no name code jockey and trying to learn how patch it. If you weren't so busy being righteous and witty you might even see how ridicious that sounds and how generally uninformed you are on the subject.
 
You asked. Cheers.
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Carbine,
   Thank you for all your hard work. I am enjoying the game tremendously and it runs great on my PC. Everyone complains about AMD. But it works fine for me. Don't complain to them. Complain to your GPU manufacturer or download the new drivers. I don't have a memory leak issue on any of my 3 PC's. Check that your game files are not corrupt. Thank you for the update. I know today is not the MAIN patch day. People dont read sticky's. They release hotfixes throughout the week and then have ONE MAJOR content update (fixes and etc.) a month. Geez be patient. We are only in month 2. Stop being rude to them or you will wear them down. We want them to like the community we have so they will go the extra mile for us. They have been very good at communicating to us what is changing and updates on upcoming class changes. If you don't like it, you don't have to stay here or post in the forums. If you don't have something nice to say or CONSTRUCTIVE criticism don't post. Just coming in here and complain won't change anything. Let them know the issues you have, post it in the right section, give all the evidence to support your claim and be patient. Saying "shit'z broke....fix it" won't get anything done and is worse than doing nothing. Of course there are some things that are still bugged a bit, but they are addressing them. If they implement fixes to quickly it could cause a whole slew of issues and be worse from what it was previously. Then imagine how much you would be here complaining. Thank you to everyone who is posting issues in the correct way, being nice ( we are all humans, no one likes to get treated that way) and providing evidence. You will truly help make the game a better nexus.
 
Thank you,
Happy player	
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OK, so the tree was broke before today's hotfix?
 
I got credit for it 2-3 times before. Of course I failed it many times as well. Tried once this morning after the fix and did not. I'm still confused, ehe.
 
But anyway, thanks, still enjoying the game, I'll get that rep somehow.
 
Anyone for Scorch? He's up!	
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Solution:
 
Threads about updates during downtime during regular maintenance (this) :Maintenance Notes X/Y/Z
Hotfix updates...Hotfixes X/Y/Z
Patch updates Patch Notes X.x X/Y/Z
PTR Notes
Etc,
 
Then people can stop complaining about silly things like this, in fact add...
"Also includes backend fixes and cleanup"	
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The strain orbs were ninja buffed to have over 112k hp so it simply takes more time to solo.  However, the event is now broken again in that it does not award credit.  It was working last night, and they broke it again.  
 
The patch notes should have read "No players now get credit for killing creatures in The Nursery and The Guardians of the Grove event, and the events are harder for no reward."
 
Why do I get the feeling that Carbine bought Wildstar from some programmer and is trying to get up to speed on how it works?
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Because you know just enough about computers and game development to feel like you can talk the talk, but still lack any real understanding of the subject so you draw incorrect conslusions on a regular basis. Unfortunately instead of saying "darn, I don't really get this" you defend your ego by blaming the developer and making up wild stories like Carbine buying a game from some no name code jockey and trying to learn how patch it. If you weren't so busy being righteous and witty you might even see how ridicious that sounds and how generally uninformed you are on the subject.
 
You asked. Cheers.
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			Elyona is still bugged, if not the same as before. Can you not just make her like Scorchwing? Just killed her with 6 people and only a few got the quest drop.	
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			Elyona has a fast respawn time and is meant for 5 players. So stop attacking her with more than 5 people.	
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Still no quest titles or text in any blighthaven quests...
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Elyona is working the same as always so I wouldn't say she is broken.
 
 
The Tree...I have no idea whats going on with that, I know some people have managed to complete it since the patch but I havent been able to.
 
 
 
 
All 3 phases...highest contribution...dont really know what im not doing.	
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I love how my comment was deleted for no reason.
 
This update was a fail and you know it. One fix after a week of waiting and its not even working.	
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Except that those of us that are versed in the software development lifecycle know about this thing we all have to do called regression testing...
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Elyona is working the same as always so I wouldn't say she is broken.
 
 
The Tree...I have no idea whats going on with that, I know some people have managed to complete it since the patch but I havent been able to.
 
 
All 3 phases...highest contribution...dont really know what im not doing.
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I love how my comment was deleted for no reason.
 
This update was a fail and you know it. One fix after a week of waiting and its not even working.
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And we also know that we don't always find everything and you can't fully regression test every weekly patch, especially on a system where you simply cannot recreate the production environment (massive multiplayer) on test servers.
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			lol, I make a joke about how there was most likely stealth warrior nerfs in the patch and my post gets deleted.......glad you have the time to scan threads for non-fanboy posts, but can't take that same time to respond to many of the questions/concerns people have in other posts.	
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Any word on fixing the Texture problems?
 
I mean the MODs erased my post and ignored my tickets, I am assuming you guys are all over this.
 
 
 
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			Completion of Druseras Tree-Event (Bronze Rank) still doesn't credit to daily quest progress :-(	
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All players can now get credit for killing creatures in The Nursery and The Guardians of the Grove event.
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And we also know that we don't always find everything and you can't fully regression test every weekly patch, especially on a system where you simply cannot recreate the production environment (massive multiplayer) on test servers.
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If they can't fully test a patch with a single fix in it, the issue is in their process.  If they can't fully test without putting it in a live environment, then they should stop hotfixing against prod and use the ptr instead.
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			It's not the major bugs that are driving me nuts... IT'S THE SMALL ONES that never seem to get fixed since beta. I mean WAY back into beta.	
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Okay -- basic question here:
 
You guys are the customers.  Do you feel the service you're getting is sufficient?  It's that simple.  	
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I think their fixing as fast as they can and harder then you may think. Also new problems with bots running around and other important issue.
 
This 'Patch note added' was huge let down but its better then them not putting anything at all. As long as I see them putting something out and trying to fix things,
 
i'm happy with service and you can't make every one happy >_>	
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I do feel that the customer service is sufficient. Thanks for asking. 
 
Out of the two tickets I've filed both were taken care of within a week or so. 
 
I know its hard to ask, but can we practice a little more patience? Continuing to complain after every patch comes out is not going to resolve these issues.
 
Going off of Rozay's post, I would imagine that it takes time even to identify the cause of certain issues, not to mention fixing them. It's not a flick of a switch type situation for many of the issues, I'm sure it takes time and effort to fix them.	
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Okay -- basic question here:
 
You guys are the customers.  Do you feel the service you're getting is sufficient?  It's that simple.  
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Pretty simply, no.
 
The problem (IMO), is they released too early, and were not ready.
Then it was delayed because they promised they would do monthly drops that had actual content in them, so heaps and heaps of the devs (after the initial gamebreaking 1-2week bug fix rush) then had to stop fixing stuff and start working on the next drops. Strain, now Sabotage, plus the one after that, and probably even the one after that has had the ball rolling on it.
Meanwhile, we're sitting around going "why have you STILL not fixed this simple thing X?", etc etc.
I think they will get on top of the content a bit more, and probably start catching back up on the "bug fixing", but they really should have just said "sorry guys, you're right.. the game isn't ready, so we're spending another 2 weeks doing bug fixes before we release Strain".
 
I could have faith in a company that did that.
I can trust them with my sub money if they own up to their mistakes and work hard fixing them.
When they sorta skirt around them for weeks and weeks, refuse to comment on things, then make 100% sure they keep to their marketing ploys and release content monthly even though huge chunks of what they release doesn't work properly, whilst also telling us repeatedly that they're listening, but not doing any actual listening, then I do the opposite - I lose faith. I think.. bugger.. these guys are just there to try to hold onto your money for as long as possible and milk you on each month with the promise of more shinies before it all goes down the toilet.
 
But, then, in the last week or so we've had devs appear again. They've posted a July update for each class. (When we had nothing since week 1 or 2)
Go click the Dev Tracker up the top and see Jeff Tallon appear today (like a wild pidgey) and surprise us with some actual responses to Itemization issues everyone has been screaming about for a month.
Turns out, maybe, they are really listening!
Turns out, maybe, they will actually fix this stuff.
It might not be for a while thanks to their ridiculous content release schedule taking priority over, youknow, getting the game working, but hey, it might happen!
 
 
PS. I call it ridiculous, because I'm almost positive that they lost more subs by not fixing the broken things in the game, then they would have lost by delaying content patches a few weeks.
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Okay -- basic question here:
 
You guys are the customers.  Do you feel the service you're getting is sufficient?  It's that simple.  
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			I just want to get "THE MAD" title from Elyona.  I have done the fight and avoided all the red stuff and nothing.  Can't wait to get that title.  Okay have a good morning.	
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			I'm still not getting completion for doing the grove tree event sometimes. Even if my contribution is listed as not being 0. I got Credit yesterday, but nothing today and a few times before it was spotty....	
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			so what about the pvp stats, the horrid fps issues with amd cpu's? to hell with the small crap fix the larger stuff, coming up on drop 2 of new content, fps issues still remain , pvp is broken ( still ). Texture issues ? pffft can we get the game playable first ? 3 days left on my sub, have not logged in for over 2 weeks and this is all we have gotten ?	
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All players can now get credit for killing creatures in The Nursery and The Guardians of the Grove event.
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you can get credit for the event if your in a group for some reason. 
 
Please stop pushing new content at me when I cant play the current content due to all the bugs in it. Carbine, the death of some games did not come from lack of content releases but the failure to acknowledge and fix problems that persisted from the launch of the game that cause people to get fed up. 
 
Fewer content releases and add in more bug fixes. I'm ok with content releases at a 2 month- 3 month cycle vs every month with persistent problems with the game 	
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Seriously, that's it?
 
There is a bug in this game where the healers heals stop registering due to a pvp flagging issue and you're worried about the new daily zone? Downright insulting to a programming company of your stature. You need to get your priorities straightened out if you think this is what needs to be top of the list.	
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I'm still not getting completion for doing the grove tree event sometimes. Even if my contribution is listed as not being 0. I got Credit yesterday, but nothing today and a few times before it was spotty....
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			You can actually solo the grove tree event, I do prefer doing a group event over there but many players prefer scorch wing.	
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It's not the major bugs that are driving me nuts... IT'S THE SMALL ONES that never seem to get fixed since beta. I mean WAY back into beta.
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I gave up on blighthaven quests recently which is a shame.
 
It's 90mins+ to try and gain completion on 3 quests.
 
3.
 
In that time i can do both daily zones and level my alt when im done.
 
It's just not a good return on time investment, especially when the beloved rewards aren't something that scream upgrade for my char.
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The completionist in me makes me want to do it and I'm fine with it. However I like many people have jsut stopped doing the Tree event since I can't ever get a completion on the quest and now I just do Scorchwing and Elyona...
 
Which I have done in the past, but I don't get credit now at all for the quest...
I've done the following to try ficing it on my end:
Drop the quest and get the quest back prior to participating
Joined a group to see if that makes a difference
Actually try to defend the tree and succeeded in various attempts
Planted trees
Fought monsters
Not die at all
Ensured that I had at least 1 point of contribution(usually i am around 10 points)
Nothing works for me. It is very strange that the even recognizes you were part of the completion, yet the quest does not which many people are aiming to do the event for. So if they can't get the primary purpose for doing the event completed, then why should they bother? For a bronze medal reward that gives crap since almost no one(on Evindra at least) does the event anymore to actually get higher medals?
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Today's patch notes:
 
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/devtracker/Glück lesen	
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