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So this was announced today:
http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/news/2015-04-15-announcing-the-wildstar-box-mystery-box-promo/
 
It's a rather interesting approach to promoting box sales and most likely related to the recent pull from Australia(maybe). I'm curious if these wil be available by other means though in the future....
 
I do feel that the marauder outfit is a reult of Carbines mishandling of communication on the highwayman set, but that's jsut my personal opinion. The other two items are kinda cute and I'll admit I would like that hoverboard. However I'm not sure I could justify paying for a new box for these items.
 
I really don't have much thought on this news right now as it's jsut kind of still setting in, but what comes to mind imdiatly is that I think these items would have been better served as "recruit a friend" program type thing.
 
What are your thoughts?
 
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Just to clarify, old and new accounts can use the code. If you're an old subscriber it will add 30 days game time + the promotion item. 
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To clarify this. 
 
You get a single item in your inventory. You bind that item to a character in order to open it. Once you open it, you'll get one of three consumable items. You can still trade them at this point. If you consume the item, then those are applied to the character that consumes them and can't be traded. 
 
The costume is slightly different, when you consume that item, you'll get 3 BoE costume items. Once you equip them, then they can no longer be traded. 
 
The holo-wardrobe will work with the costume, so while the pieces will be bound to a character that equips it, your account can still access the costume account-wide. 
 
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What are your thoughts?
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			as i said in other post it seems more like a bonus that will become standard, its like when when there werent anymore standard edition of GW2 and you just could get the heroic edition. the standard retail box transformed into the heroic one, its kinda the same but with some perks ingame, nothing more changed with that but that move boost a little the sales, cause people got interested in get some of the stuff	
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My thoughts are:
 
This is "Step One" in a payment model transition. Get Rid of the Remaining Boxes.
 
My Lord, I wish I could find the post I made MONTHS ago when I detailed how they'd go about this. I totally called this and the "Big Big Discount Sale!" as the first steps.
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My $15 not being good enough for the new mount is pretty irritating.
 
But hopefully this is the beginning of the marketing push the game needs to get people to see how amazing it is.	
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			Why do they have to replace the boxes? Could just be that any standard code from a store box will get an item. As in, if the code wasn't generated for an online sale. I'm sure they've got a database with the list of codes that correspond to retail boxes.	
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			Did I miss where they are replacing boxes? I didn't read that, though I admit I could have missed it.	
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			Yeah, I don't think they're replacing boxes. If it required a special box they'd likely mention it, since even if retailers all had a fancy new box there would be old boxes unredeemed floating around out there.	
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Not sure but they have started pulling boxes http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/632/view/news/page/1/read/34572/WildStar-RUMOR-Ready-for-F2P-Boxes-Taken-From-AU-Store-Shelves.html#post
 
Granted they could be doing a switch (payment model) who knows or maybe the codes they had cant be changed for the new items.
 
The more I think about it the more I get angry that the want existing players to kick in another 39.95, we already keep the lights on.
 
This just makes me sick
 
Q: What if I’ve already bought WildStar?
A: This is only for boxes sold from today forward, so go out and get a box today!
Q: Can I buy more than one box and redeem codes on my account?
A: Yes! You can redeem as many codes as you want, as long as they come from standard edition boxed copies.	
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as i said in other post it seems more like a bonus that will become standard, its like when when there werent anymore standard edition of GW2 and you just could get the heroic edition. the standard retail box transformed into the heroic one, its kinda the same but with some perks ingame, nothing more changed with that but that move boost a little the sales, cause people got interested in get some of the stuff
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I kinda hate to say it but whoever came up with this for a promo should probably not be around. The cost of removing old boxes and replacing them with new ones will override the income generated of any new players you get from this, especially when the price remains the same. 
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This might get me in trouble with the AAA game developers cartel here on the forums, but I have in fact been paid (way back in the day) to write programs to access databases like that and... If that's a challenge I don't know what to say. It ought to just be a list that has information like is this a standard edition, is this a physical copy of the game, has this been used, etc.
 
Edit: looks like we've already figured this bit out haha.	
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Yeah, I don't think they're replacing boxes. If it required a special box they'd likely mention it, since even if retailers all had a fancy new box there would be old boxes unredeemed floating around out there.
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One code. The box registration code is what you need to apply to either a new or old account. You don't get a separate special code.  
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A question I do think needs to be clarified though and isn't in the FAQ:
IF we purchase a box will I be given one code or two?(one for the game itself and the other for the box)
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I think it's interesting that these are both character bound though and can be traded. I'm very curious about the decision to make them like this instead of account bound. Seems a bit harmful to a degree for a new player who redeems the item, but like many altoholics probably won't settle on a main.
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One code. The box registration code is what you need to apply to either a new or old account. You don't get a separate special code.  
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Well....
 
Amazon currently has boxed copies for $22. I have a random giftcard I could use, so grabbing a code or two is tempting.	
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This might get me in trouble with the AAA game developers cartel here on the forums, but I have in fact been paid (way back in the day) to write programs to access databases like that and... If that's a challenge I don't know what to say. It ought to just be a list that has information like is this a standard edition, is this a physical copy of the game, has this been used, etc.
 
Edit: looks like we've already figured this bit out haha.
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And how is this acceptable? Why do I have to go out and pay for 3 more games that I already own? I've been subscribed for 11 months which is 165$. I bought the Digital Deluxe edition at launch which I believe was 75$? 
 
235$ spent on the game and you're trying to tell me my loyalty for what is soon to be a year and money isn't worth anything? Did you guys hire Archeage's promo guys or something because this is legitimately amongst the stupidest promotions I've ever bore witness to in any game I've played past and present. Disappointment doesn't even cover what I'm feeling right now. 	
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Wildstar I love and I always will but that being said, I'm not going to go out and buy a copy of this game just so I can get one of these specialty items. It would be nice to get to choose one of them as a show of gratitude to all of us loyal players who have been here...I'm going on nearly 2 years and have only missed the game when it's been offline or when I've been on vacation. It's like being a customer to a service provider for years and years but you can't get the 'signing up' discount prices.
 
Doesn't commitment mean anything anymore?
 
This is the longest I have ever stayed playing a game and I'm no where near bored. Show people like me, people who close their eyes at night and dream about new housing or costume combinations or a more efficient DPS build for raiding, some love.
 
Pretty please with sugar on top?	
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I'll admit I would die laughing if that was really the case ad die a little on the inside lol.
 
 do expect a box price drop, but when I can't say...maybe most likely after or when the next drop arrives.
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I'm just gonna copypasta what I said on Tumblr:
 
Wow that’s…really, really unfair. What about all of us that have been here for nearly a year? I got the deluxe edition even, I’m not going to buy another copy of the game I already have. I really want that stuff yes, but making it exclusive to new copies is just weird and I don’t have the money for that anyway. Just open a cash shop or something, geez.
 
Even the beta testers only got one exclusive (the pink hoverboard can be obtained by anyone, beta testers just don’t have to buy it) and preordering gave the rocket house. Anyone can get the green and gold dyes and augmented costume by buying the deluxe version. But I’ve always said there shouldn’t be any completely exclusive items, they should all be available to everyone somehow, be it achievements or cash shop or something else fair.
 
Beta testers got to play early, but for the most part we’ve not been rewarded nearly as much as late comers. :/
 
EDIT: I should've said two years, like Philbe I've been here since beta (Stress Test 1, specifically, which was in May 2013). Black Ops testers got the same rewards as people who logged in once during open beta. I never even got a special title like beta weekends testers were promised.	
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And how is this acceptable? Why do I have to go out and pay for 3 more games that I already own? I've been subscribed for 11 months which is 165$. I bought the Digital Deluxe edition at launch which I believe was 75$? 
235$ spent on the game and you're trying to tell me my loyalty for what is soon to be a year and money isn't worth anything? Did you guys hire Archeage's promo guys or something because this is legitimately amongst the stupidest promotions I've ever bore witness to in any game I've played past and present. 
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If I could get a discount copy for close to the price of CREDD... I'd definitely do it, then bathe in the plat after selling the item on auction for significantly more than the price of a CREDD.
 
But I am lazy. So after work today I will go home and play with my dogs instead. Don't be too angry folks, I've got a feeling that some birthday gifts for long term players are right around the corner.	
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Just to clarify, old and new accounts can use the code. If you're an old subscriber it will add 30 days game time + the promotion item. 
 
Another side note, people have been posting here on the forums that BestBuy is currently selling the game for $19.99. 	
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Just to clarify, old and new accounts can use the code. If you're an old subscriber it will add 30 days game time + the promotion item.
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			I'm disappointed, Carbine. Since closed beta I've been supporting you and believed in you. It's fading.	
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dude the perks are not soulbound, so you will see them in the AH soon, some guy will buy 2 copies and get 2 costumes we know that (rng sucks) so have the platinum ready
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30 days of time plus the chance to roll in plat... almost enough to overcome my lack of desire to root around Best Buy this evening. Almost.
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Just to clarify, old and new accounts can use the code. If you're an old subscriber it will add 30 days game time + the promotion item. 
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Well you are talking about paying what.. 25-30 dollars for the extra playtime plus the items.  The items will likely be pretty expensive on the AH, so will make back the plat it would have cost to buy credd for a month and then some... so a net positive.
What I don't get is the continuing monthly fee?  Wouldn't it make sense to acknowledge the people that have stuck with the game and have active accounts by giving them a shot at one of the three items, and then they can go get a box if they want more or buy in game.. In either case the value of a subscription just as the price for admission seems pretty weak. 	
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It feels like I entered a upside down world considering everyone just willingly accepts just straight up bullshit like this? Oh sure it's alright. Next drop I'll perhaps get a loyalty reward which is a piece of sandpaper to wipe my ass with. Wait, we already got that, the Malgrave Sandwrap. What if I can buy it on AH for an obscene amount of platinum I don't have? Go farm it! Theres 3 of those items and you need them all to unlock a exclusive title too. Why is my Wildstar key worth less?
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EDIT: Is this all currently available boxes? If I order one from Amazon today, will it contain the code?
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seriously? carbine doesn't have the budget to implement a cash shop ingame -so they send out all the loyal players & new to buy physical box copy leftovers from their failed launch. so it looks good on their sales sheet.
 
cant believe these are not available to loyal players ingame. - these kind of tactics makes me like wildstar less now.
 
shame on you carbine- fire your PR.
 
disgusted!	
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IT'S HAPPENING!
 
It's just so funny how they lose their retail sales in Australia and then THE SAME DAY THIS HAPPENS!
 
B2P, HERE WE COME!	
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Just to clarify, old and new accounts can use the code. If you're an old subscriber it will add 30 days game time + the promotion item. 
 
Another side note, people have been posting here on the forums that BestBuy is currently selling the game for $19.99. 
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			If I go and buy a box, can't I just have two accounts if I register under a new email account?	
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Yeah... Let's put it like that. Let's say you raise a child, you were helping him, feeding etc. for 18 years. And after 18 years your child found a friend that helped them just once, and your child tells you: "Thanks for help, but I care for my new friend more, cya." and leaves you completely alone. Seems kinda ungrateful to me.
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People aren't accepting bullshit. They just don't think it is bullshit in the first place.
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Yeah... Let's put it like that. Let's say you raise a child, you were helping him, feeding etc. for 18 years. And after 18 years your child found a friend that helped them just once, and your child tells you: "Thanks for help, but I care for my new friend more, cya." and leaves you completely alone. Seems kinda ungrateful to me.
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			Why didn't they say who the participating retailers are?? Where can I buy one of those boxes?	
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EDIT: Is this all currently available boxes? If I order one from Amazon today, will it contain the code?
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			Another thing, there's no category for this stuff on the AH or CX, I just checked. So if it's "from today forward" as the page says, how's that work?	
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If I go and buy a box, can't I just have two accounts if I register under a new email account?
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			Got this, wat do?	
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You're right. That is exactly the same. Why didn't I see it before.
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Why didn't they say who the participating retailers are?? Where can I buy one of those boxes?
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Yeah... Let's put it like that. Let's say you raise a child, you were helping him, feeding etc. for 18 years. And after 18 years your child found a friend that helped them just once, and your child tells you: "Thanks for help, but I care for my new friend more, cya." and leaves you completely alone. Seems kinda ungrateful to me.
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If that's the general consensus here, then I'll be out until the inevitable F2P. Way to take a *cupcake* on people having been subscribed since day 1 of headstart and going miles and beyond telling people how great the game is/was.
What a grand way of giving the middle finger. *cupcake*ing 2nd grade citizens we are, aren't we.
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As much as I like WS, this is pure and simple a scam! 
 
Who in their right mind forces people to buy two copies of one game just to get some ridiculous code? 	
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I think it just applies to ALL new accounts made regardless of where you purchase from.
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It's not just new accounts though, Chillia's earlier post said old accounts work too.
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Q: What if I’ve already bought WildStar?
A: This is only for boxes sold from today forward, so go out and get a box today!''
I'm sorry what?	
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Q: What if I’ve already bought WildStar?
A: This is only for boxes sold from today forward, so go out and get a box today!''
I'm sorry what?
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Got this, wat do?
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Yes.
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I really don't feel like I should go out and buy a box to get what looks like really cool items.
 
I know they will be on the AH, but the last loyalty thing we got was ages ago. Where's our loyalty prizes carb? :(
 
I've subbed since day one, and I don't want to buy another copy for the chance to get the item i don't want D:	
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Q: What if I’ve already bought WildStar?
A: This is only for boxes sold from today forward, so go out and get a box today!''
I'm sorry what?
 
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Q: Are the items character-bound, or account-bound?
A: They are character-bound. When you apply one to your character, it is no longer shareable with your other characters (although you can still trade it).
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I thought it was pretty self-explanatory. But don't worry. If you're a long time veteran, you will be able to buy these on the AH...
 
...just as soon as they come up with a way to list them there.  :lol:
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I typed it out wrong and this post is edited.
 
I have a question about the Snarfelynx mount.
The screenshots don't show a rider(that i can see). Does it..."eat" the user?
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			Yea, no thanks. This feels like one last hurrah before they announce free to play.	
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Excuse me what? So you buy a box for 40 bucks and you have to pick what character gets the costume? At least make it account bound
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$20 bucks from most places now. I will sell you one of the three this weekend when my box arrives. :-) Personally I'm hoping it's not the marauder because come on... People will flip for kitties.
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What makes you think I have money to buy that stuff lol!
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One code. The box registration code is what you need to apply to either a new or old account. You don't get a separate special code.  
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Snarf mount video. It eats you lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUEivpZ34Ho&feature=youtu.be
 
Carbine please let me have the option to just buy a code with one of the 3 items on it. Make it the same price as the credd and I would buy them. But I am NOT going to go buy another copy of the a game I already have. I don't need all those boxes collecting dust on a shelf or be garbage fodder.
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			Since every other topic about this has been discussed, I don't feel the need to add to it(other than  :angry: ).  But there is something I haven't seen brought up:  Where the hell do Snarfelynxes come from????	
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			If I'm on the US account, would buying EU box still give me the item?	
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If I'm on the US account, would buying EU box still give me the item?
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Since every other topic about this has been discussed, I don't feel the need to add to it(other than  :angry: ).  But there is something I haven't seen brought up:  Where the hell do Snarfelynxes come from????
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			So, you are telling your old costumers, to go "purchase" a second copy, and basicly removing it from a potential new player? Instead of giving everyone who got the game 1 mystery box? Idk it does indeed feel wierd. Make those items also available in a cash shop if you really want to draw new players i guess. Because this is litteraly a cash shop IRL for your existing players.	
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			I'm waiting for my loyalty recoloured snarfelynx and pirate hat >:(	
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Snarf mount video. It eats you lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUEivpZ34Ho&feature=youtu.be
 
Carbine please let me have the option to just buy a code with one of the 3 items on it. Make it the same price as the credd and I would buy them. But I am NOT going to go buy another copy of the a game I already have. I don't need all those boxes collecting dust on a shelf or be garbage fodder.
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Q: Are the items character-bound, or account-bound?
A: They are character-bound. When you apply one to your character, it is no longer shareable with your other characters (although you can still trade it).
 
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Need clarification here. If you could still trade the item after using it, then it wouldn't be character bound.
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coming from a pro P2P player, none the less, this is a perfect example of why Wildstar NEEDS a cash shop.
$$$$$
 
NeXus Unlimited Reborn !
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coming from a pro P2P player,  none the less,  this is a perfect example of why Wildstar NEEDS a cash shop.
$$$$$
 
NeXus Unlimited Reborn !
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Need clarification here. If you could still trade the item after using it, then it wouldn't be character bound.
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Chillia,
 
 
is it only physical copies ?	
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This is a perfect example of what would make me quit the game.
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Thinking about it, it looks more like a move from Ncsoft, its the same move in GW2, just see it
 
Before in GW2 it was standard (just the game) < digital deluxe (tons of perks)
 
now GW2 games go Heroic edition  (legacy armor, mithril box, 10 exp pots) < digital deluxe (all the above + some other perks like the summon wolf, bank golem and more)
 
Wildstar games before was standard (just the game and 1 decor)< digital deluxe (costume+ hoverboard+tittle +dye)
 
Now wildstar games are like standard (1of 3 perks between, costume, mount, or hoverboard and a decor for 1 char) < digital deluxe (all of the above + costume augmentated+hoverboard+tittle+dye for all chars)	
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Chillia,
 
 
is it only physical copies ?
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Yeah... Let's put it like that. Let's say you raise a child, you were helping him, feeding etc. for 18 years. And after 18 years your child found a friend that helped them just once, and your child tells you: "Thanks for help, but I care for my new friend more, cya." and leaves you completely alone. Seems kinda ungrateful to me.
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Carbine... *gives a disappointing look*
 
Truth be told, I just want the Marauder Costume set. Paying the price for ANOTHER GAME (A sentiment echoed in this thread) just for A CHANCE TO GET THE COSTUME SET(or PIECE?), is NOT WORTH IT.
 
Like many, I have stuck with the game since DAY ONE. Got...a few "meh" items...(HeadWRAP GG CARBINE what was that? No ONE WEARS THAT THING! XD)
 
Maybe put these in some Boom Boxes? Dunno.
 
Time will tell.	
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			Honestly, this just feels like a way for CRB to help retail stores clear out their physical copies. If they just recalled them it would be a pretty big loss.	
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These could have been PVP rated cosmetic items instead we got rune sets for drop 5. Just sayin.
 
 
*going back into my lonely corner*	
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even most pro-p2p players will ditch a 20$ at any moment for a flying fluffy chua mount or a kitty hoverboard...
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Honestly, this just feels like a way for CRB to help retail stores clear out their physical copies. If they just recalled them it would be a pretty big loss.
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These could have been PVP rated cosmetic items instead we got rune sets for drop 5. Just sayin.
 
 
*going back into my lonely corner*
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Need clarification here. If you could still trade the item after using it, then it wouldn't be character bound.
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Well I won't. I've spent over $300 on this video game (subs for my wife and I), and for them to use that money to add something that they give to other people- no. That's offensive to me.
 
I can tell you this- any chance I'd have given a F2P conversation before this is likely gone. Because it's clear there WOULD be stuff behind a paywall even while I pay a sub.
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Not blowing a fuse until F2P is announced. Only because I really, really like this game.
 
If I didn't, I'd be gone over this. I've left products over offering better incentives to new customers before.
 
But actually, I'm holding out some hope that Carbine realizes just how crummy this is and makes it right. Because they really don't want to be the company that tries to tell it's existing customers new copies of what they already have.	
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Well I won't. I've spent over $300 on this video game (subs for my wife and I), and for them to use that money to add something that they give to other people- no. That's offensive to me.
 
I can tell you this- any chance I'd have given a F2P conversation before this is likely gone. Because it's clear there WOULD be stuff behind a paywall even while I pay a sub.
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Not blowing a fuse until F2P is announced. Only because I really, really like this game.
 
If I didn't, I'd be gone over this. I've left products over offering better incentives to new customers before.
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Hey Folks - 
 
Okay, so here's a bit of clarification:
 
You will receive a consumable item that has the potential to give you a chance at one of three cool items. Those three items are also consumables. If you don't consume them, they are not souldbound and therefore are tradeable or sellable. 
 
Hope that clears it up for you.
 
Cheers!!!!
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Hey Folks - 
 
Okay, so here's a bit of clarification:
 
You will receive a consumable item that has the potential to give you a chance at one of three cool items. Those three items are also consumables. If you don't consume them, they are not souldbound and therefore are tradeable or sellable. 
 
Hope that clears it up for you.
 
Cheers!!!!
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Game haven't gone f2p/b2p, and people is drowning in a lake that doesn't exist.
 
My local Gamestop list the boxes for $20 dollars. So I see it this way...
 
For the price of CREDD I get 30 days, plus an unique item that I can either use or sell later for a couple of plat. Not a bad deal.	
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The way you just worded this is different from the promo page. The site just says you'll randomly get one of those three items. "Potential to give you a chance" sounds like we might also get something that isn't one of the three.
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I think at this point we've established that there IS a box.
 
There could be anything in there! It could even be a boat!
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Not blowing a fuse until F2P is announced. Only because I really, really like this game.
 
If I didn't, I'd be gone over this. I've left products over offering better incentives to new customers before.
 
But actually, I'm holding out some hope that Carbine realizes just how crummy this is and makes it right. Because they really don't want to be the company that tries to tell it's existing customers new copies of what they already have.
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			it is true that the way it is worded "potential to give you a chance at 1 of 3" seems like you can end up with rune fragments or signs instead kappa	
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Funny how suddenly the code, that's been unchanged, gives more for the same price as it did e.g. a week ago. Yay for more free content! No, wait...
 
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Q: What if I’ve already bought WildStar?
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			It would be wise to give the people who already own the game a small bonus. For instance, if you already have a copy of the game you should get 45 days of playtime instead of 30. This could be teh silver bullet for the growing rage ;)	
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Gotta admit, i caved... (people are selling them already)
 
I got the mounts and they are awesome!	
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Gotta admit, i caved... (people are selling them already)
 
I got the mounts and they are awesome!
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Gotta admit, i caved... (people are selling them already)
 
I got the mounts and they are awesome!
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			I might got to BB and pick up the last two copies for $15 each.	
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I can tell you this- any chance I'd have given a F2P conversation before this is likely gone. Because it's clear there WOULD be stuff behind a paywall even while I pay a sub.
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Gotta admit, i caved... (people are selling them already)
 
I got the mounts and they are awesome!
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			So.. I'm having a huge problem with this.It's an overpriced cash shop. It will cost you at least 90 € to get all the items they've talked about. So I'm getting the WHOLE game 4 times in total now.Why not give the people who have bought this game a discount to say 10 € to even 20 € an item? Yes, that would be an "openly visible" cash shop.. but still WAY better than this!Some people say it's because they want to get rid of the boxes. Well, good. Then give us existing players more value. We already OWN the game.. give us 45 days instead of 30. Give us something that makes this package worth it. Otherwise we're paying 30 € for cosmetics.But most of all - freaking communicate! I have no idea why you're doing this, Carbine. Are you thinking about a change of business model? Are you just trying to boost your sales? Are you trying to get rid of box copies for some reason? I don't know. And because of that, I won't support an overpriced hidden cash shop. If you have money trouble - tell me and I'm quite a bit more willing to pay for this "offer".So, right now I'm just massively disappointed with how you chose to treat loyal players. I really thought better of you Carbine, I liked you. Sad to see that apparently communication isn't worth much.	
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I expect you enter the code, your Account icon lights up next time you log in, just like the Boom Boxes.
 
In your Account window, you'll see a little box-thing, again like a Boom Box, only different.
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Here's what Carbine is doing, in general:
 
Stabilize the core - they've done this by introducing many many QoL changes and stopping the sub bleeding.
 
Grow the base - they're attempting to do this now with promotions and free game time.
 
Find new sources of revenue - not sure about this one but my guess is cash shop with or without B2P.
 
This is just my educated guess though, it's a pretty effective general turnaround strategy.	
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In honor of the furor over this promotion, I suggest the name "Doom Box" for the RNG item prior to opening.  ;)
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but dude, recalling this is just a marketing scheme wildstar have already done, remember the spaceship for preordering the game, i couldnt get that and i bought it like a week after release. that spaceship for housing, as the loyalist beret, the facesnuggler, ths sandwrap, the highwayman costume all are limited edition stuff for doing something or spending something between a lapse of time
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The spaceship was not unavailable to people who had already been supporting the game financially.
 
This is the first time, that I know of, where they've created content they are denying to existing players who have been supporting the game.
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p2p much.
i wouldn't call it hypocrisy.
just a "change of mind".
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I want the fat kitty.
 
BTW how much are these plat wise?	
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I bought them off people in game.... go suck a lemon
 
anyways:
 
 
 
 
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The spaceship was not unavailable to people who had already been supporting the game financially.
 
This is the first time, that I know of, where they've created content they are denying to existing players who have been supporting the game.
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there was the TopHat and the PCGamer sword and other stuff like that...
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I want the fat kitty.
 
BTW how much are these plat wise?
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A quick question:
 
How would people feel if they gave all currently active subs 1 box?
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Here's what Carbine is doing, in general:
 
Stabilize the core - they've done this by introducing many many QoL changes and stopping the sub bleeding.
 
Grow the base - they're attempting to do this now with promotions and free game time.
 
Find new sources of revenue - not sure about this one but my guess is cash shop with or without B2P.
 
This is just my educated guess though, it's a pretty effective general turnaround strategy.
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This isn't a good part of that strategy, though. This has, effectively, pissed off a good portion of the subscription base, scared what might have been potential subscribers with a rash of F2P feedback and general disaffection with Carbine, and might not even really work. What I think they're doing is trying to get a good number of box sales up to parrot as a substantial figure in preparation for a PR push. That may or may not include a payment model change, but doesn't seem to be on the immediate horizon (which would make it a really weird time to get their boxes off the shelves). I imagine new sources of revenue are coming but nobody knows. I imagine this isn't the best way to advertise B2P if they're going that way; this probably isn't what you want people thinking about if you're trying to fend off the accusation that you're a greedy conglomerate that wants to fleece your playerbase.
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A quick question:
 
How would people feel if they gave all currently active subs 1 box?	
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This isn't a good part of that strategy, though.  This has, effectively, pissed off a good portion of the subscription base, scared what might have been potential subscribers with a rash of F2P feedback and general disaffection with Carbine, and might not even really work.  What I think they're doing is trying to get a good number of box sales up to parrot as a substantial figure in preparation for a PR push.  That may or may not include a payment model change, but doesn't seem to be on the immediate horizon (which would make it a really weird time to get their boxes off the shelves).  I imagine new sources of revenue are coming but nobody knows.  I imagine this isn't the best way to advertise B2P if they're going that way; this probably isn't what you want people thinking about if you're trying to fend off the accusation that you're a greedy conglomerate that wants to fleece your playerbase.
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A quick question:
 
How would people feel if they gave all currently active subs 1 box?
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A quick question:
 
How would people feel if they gave all currently active subs 1 box?
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It would help calm the storm.
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94% of the box sales increase due to this "gamble box promotion" is from people who are already subbing to the game.
 
really ?
 
hmm hmm...
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If it's due to the gamble box promotion, almost certainly.  But that's not what's important to NCSoft or Carbine.  It'd be the number of boxes they sell.  Not just for the money, but because that'll show up on websites and they can use it for promotional material.  So a 94% increase on box sales, in and of itself, would be worth it.  But I imagine a great many would come from current subscribers.
 
By the way, where'd you get that 94% number?
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Somebody got a lot of feedback from retailers and decided they need to clean out all the boxes from the first production run.  That's not necessarily indicative of a payment model change.
 
If however it is the first step in a more long term marketing push the next step will be:
 
Email all subscribers with inactive accounts and offer them some combination of:
 
 If you resubscribe before <insert date here> we'll give you 30/60/90 days playtime at a discount and/or one or more of the these or some other new item!
 
I could buy the box now, apply the code and get one item, or wait until they are desperate enough to give me even more stuff.
 
I'm betting they'll give me even more stuff for less money in another few months.	
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but not Carbine's wallet.
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it could be 99% too..
just saying they are clearing up the boxes, and they much rather sell them at full price by including a gadget in it than paying the stores to recall the stocks and then burn these boxes in the fire.
 
this promotion is NOT for new players gain.
it is for current players, like a cash shop, and it helps to get rid of the boxes before the shift to f2p.
 
smart business.
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Somebody got a lot of feedback from retailers and decided they need to clean out all the boxes from the first production run. That's not necessarily indicative of a payment model change.
 
If however it is the first step in a more long term marketing push the next step will be:
 
Email all subscribers with inactive accounts and offer them some combination of:
 
 If you resubscribe before <insert date here> we'll give you 30/60/90 days playtime at a discount and/or one or more of the these or some other new item!
 
I could buy the box now, apply the code and get one item, or wait until they are desperate enough to give me even more stuff.
 
I'm betting they'll give me even more stuff for less money in another few months.
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If they were going to shift to B2P, they'd have left the boxes.  If they're shifting to F2P, I think this is giving everyone a very good preview of what getting fleeced is going to be like.  However, these aren't sure things.  This could just be a really bad attempt at a promotional drive.  Or, conversely, they could be switching to the EVE model, where there is no "box price" and instead only a 5$ activation fee (and also no free month for subscription).  A lot is out there and I wouldn't hastily jump to a conclusion.  Hell, for all we know, they're about to yank the plug and are getting as much out of the game right now as possible.
 
You'd better hope we don't all get ahead of ourselves.  Especially since so many people want B2P instead of F2P, this would be a REALLY bad sign for them.
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I want the fat kitty.
 
BTW how much are these plat wise?
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			They probably should have given something to existing players before starting the mystery box but overall I could care less about getting the items for myself, I'd rather get more players interested. I know my first reaction when I saw the mystery box was using it to entice a friend that's been interested and loves durpy cat faces. Shrug.Either way, I suppose this shows they're capable of making a cash shop for mounts/costumes alone to go with the CREDD model or without.	
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			I think I'm gonna be sick. :/	
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I think what would be nice is that while this is an announced bonus for new box purchases...
 
Perhaps with the next drop which give us the Anniversarydower thing, the one box might be added on. They could use the same distribution method they do with the boom boxes, which has sown they can filter and deliver to accounts an item. So I think that may be an approach worth considering...
 
That's just me though...
 
Then we can all be calm and lay back because..	
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I bought them off people in game.... go suck a lemon
 
anyways:
 
 
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Yep, fat kitties over awesome raid/dungeon content. That will make Carbine rich.
 
They can have loads of fun competing on their ability to make cool mounts and costumes. Me, I'll just find somewhere where my patronage is respected.
 
Seems shortsighted to sell out your best content for stuff like this, but it's their game.
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f2p with optional sub like Swtor.
 
all pieces fall into place if we look at it like that.
also, for an unknown IP i think it makes more sense than to keep the B2P barrier.
+ you have hardcore appeal with raids so it is still good to keep the optional sub (that will be good for raiders, obviously).
 
anway, i guess we will see whats up during the next Nexus report.
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Honestly, I might buy a box. 
 
there is nothing wrong with f2p/b2p like I've said several times, but it was the discussions ruining the forums that annoyed me and I didn't advocate.
 
If carbine do pull a fast one on us I will be disappointed. But whatever, it happened to me before /stares at rift for promoting a 12month sub that I bought before going f2p	
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			I just realized that for the first time in a long time, I'm really not interested in logging on tonight. I might because I have a raid to organize, but I doubt I'll actually do any content. I hope that is just a temporary thing, because this game has been an amazing experience. And I don't even really care that much about these items (I'd be excited to get the fat kitty mount, but I'll live without it). But I just don't like my patronage being taken for granted. It really dulls my enjoyment of the game when I can't respect the people I'm buying it from.	
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It all falls into place equally well with the EVE model.  EVE is a lot more hardcore than SW:TOR, the elements they already took from their payment model already work well, and it would absolutely get rid of the "B2P" barrier.  As well, if they lost the box price and kept the sub, they'd still be working with their normal gameplay.  In the end, though, we've only heard the boxes were discontinued in Australia; we don't even know if this is just a push to raise the box sales rates so the game makes a few more lists (since everyone is ready to play follow the leader in MMORPGs, a bit of good news is all they need to get the ball rolling).
 
I suppose we will see.  I'm absolutely not sticking around for any kind of F2P preceded by this.  If there was an argument that it wouldn't be so bad before, that's dust in the wind now.
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I just realized that for the first time in a long time, I'm really not interested in logging on tonight. I might because I have a raid to organize, but I doubt I'll actually do any content. I hope that is just a temporary thing, because this game has been an amazing experience. And I don't even really care that much about these items (I'd be excited to get the fat kitty mount, but I'll live without it). But I just don't like my patronage being taken for granted. It really dulls my enjoyment of the game when I can't respect the people I'm buying it from.
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they have no choice Jeff.
you think it makes the devs excited ? and that TimeTravel is like: "yeah! a *cupcake* flying puffy chua done in a few days is bringing more money to wildstar than my new dungeon with a full set of weapon skins and armor skins! thats the way ah ah, ah ah, i like it!"
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The soul crushing power of a fat cat and a fruity cat board is real.
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The Snarfelynx goes at super speed like the other special ground mounts. Does the Glitter Kitty board have a speed boost too?
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Sigh
 
Hello there carbine. Subscriber and long term supporter here. Would love to give you more money and buy these, but I CAN'T. Every single store in this bloody country has 0 copies of this in store, and after trying five different sellers on amazon that don't ship here, I'm giving up.
 
This is a terrible way to implement new items, specially cosmetic items such as these. I hope you review this promotion, because to be so dismissive of those who pay, have payed, and want to continue paying is nothing short of sad. And I am sad now because of this. I have defended the game and Carbine's actions whenever the need arose, but I can't find a way to defend this.
 
Please, in the name of us who've been around since the start and want to be around for a long time, I ask of you to rethink whether physical copies can be obtained by players as easily as you think. For some people it is extremely hard. Even though I live in Europe, I'd have to order from the general US amazon and pay a heavier shipping. And who knows when it would arrive, it might take up to 3 weeks.
 
This is just not the right way to do things... It simply isn't.	
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I still say its a rather grim mount...
 
Someone asked earlier where these things come from and all I can think of is...
 
They're actually dead Chua that were experimented on and mixed with other animals(a type of lynx) resulting in their tail splitting into 3. The ear rings indicate that these chua were once authoritative and because hey have more than most(4 instead of 2) they could be the floating corpses of Chua esper elders Mondo saw fit to remove from power to keep his position more secure among Chua. So all of you with this mount are flying around in bloated corpses!
 
Your turn Pappy...your turn...	
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i told you a few months back that they needed to milk it, quick.
 
but its ok Vic. keep enjoying Wildstar and be great for the community.
its a new Nexus out there, but you can still have your shack and have fun.
you don't need to buy this new flying puffy chua.
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 Even though I live in Europe, I'd have to order from the general US amazon and pay a heavier shipping. And who knows when it would arrive, it might take up to 3 weeks. 
This is just not the right way to do things... It simply isn't.
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If you buy from the US Amazon, it will be a NA code and you won't be able to use it. They are still region locked. :(
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Thank you. Looks like I'm stuck then, until someone finally sells these ingame... Assuming I can afford it...
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I just realized that for the first time in a long time, I'm really not interested in logging on tonight. I might because I have a raid to organize, but I doubt I'll actually do any content. I hope that is just a temporary thing, because this game has been an amazing experience. And I don't even really care that much about these items (I'd be excited to get the fat kitty mount, but I'll live without it). But I just don't like my patronage being taken for granted. It really dulls my enjoyment of the game when I can't respect the people I'm buying it from.
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If these items were being included as an earnable reward in Patch 1.3.0, I would be excited. But right now, I'm just mad, especially with the space pirate costume.
 
That costume would have been PERFECT for the upcoming Marauder raid that could have been included in Patch 1.4.0 or later, but seeing it being regulated to nothing more than the equivalent of a lockbox cash shop item just... WHY?	
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So i can buy retail boxes for 99SEK and add the code as 30 days game time to my present account  and get the stupid new fluff?
 
Anyone ? 	
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			So the snarfamacallit is a ground mount, in terms of handling and capability?	
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So the snarfamacallit is a ground mount, in terms of handling and capability?
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I feel the same. It's not just the mystery boxes but all the news trickling through Today, something feels off. Hope with all my heart that we're jumping the gun somewhat and simple reading to much into what's going on. Feeling deflated and a bit sad  :( to be honest. Just have to wait and see if there really is anything in whats transpiring.
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What saddens me more than Carbine adding these things in a promo is the endorsement in this forum. It's probably just me. Playing for soon to be a year, I thought higher of Carbine/NCSoft, but this is the kind of stuff I just can't accept. It's a subscription game. In the end I got a tip from someone that G2A was selling EU keys for 10 euroes and I caved in. Now I'm just a part of the problem as well. This is what I feared I'd do. 
 
I hope I won't be this gullible in the future. I'm really disappointed, sad and mad at the same time and I certainly hope they'll do better to treat their loyale players with respect in the future. 	
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So i can buy retail boxes for 99SEK and add the code as 30 days game time to my present account  and get the stupid new fluff?
 
Anyone ? 
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but you get one of the 3 things right ???
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Yes. Anyone can add the codes to their account, existing paying customer or new/returning account, and get the game time and whatever the RNG goddess has deemed you good enough to have.
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			I do suspect they'll -somehow- rectify this and give us loyal players something to chew on. If not, well, I for one am pretty disappointed too. I'm not the only one who stuck around during the dark days of Drop 3.	
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but you get one of the 3 things right ???
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I do suspect they'll -somehow- rectify this and give us loyal players something to chew on. If not, well, I for one am pretty disappointed too. I'm not the only one who stuck around during the dark days of Drop 3.
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Yes one of 3.
 
Thing is to collect all 3, you would have to buy at least 3 boxes (if you are lucky enough to get all 3). Or else keep buying the boxes till you get all 3. Could get expensive.
 
Then you have all these useless box copies sitting around collecting dust. You can't give them away cause you already used the code from them.
 
Yeah, I'm a little irritated by this whole business.
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			These things arent even accountbound? What the hell Carbine?	
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These things arent even accountbound? What the hell Carbine?
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These things arent even accountbound? What the hell Carbine?
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This would have been less terrible if people weren't already paying a sub. These are f2p/b2p practices.
 
Doing this nonsense in a subscription game is unforgivable. 	
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Great incentive to buy boxes.
 
In this day and age Box sales are completely outdated and irrelevant. It's almost a waste of money to produce boxed copies. Everything is digital download now.
 
 
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Not account bound, you get one bag on your account when redeeming the code, and it grants one of the three items.
So basically you have one chance on one character to get the item you want.
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Not account bound, you get one bag on your account when redeeming the code, and it grants one of the three items.
So basically you have one chance on one character to get the item you want.
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They are just trying to get people to buy the game!
 
I'm sure those of you who stuck it out in the darkness are a little offended not to be getting an item as well, but come on. Let Carbine try to grow their player base!
 
A lot of this seems really petty to me. THAT guy got something so I want it too!! I've got a hoverboard that I got for being in the beta. People who didn't participate don't have it no matter how badly they wanted to play and give feedback. These things happen.	
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A lot of this seems really petty to me. THAT guy got something so I want it too!! I've got a hoverboard that I got for being in the beta. People who didn't participate don't have it no matter how badly they wanted to play and give feedback. These things happen.
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I don't think they even have a proper category on the CE/AH for the mounts.
 
I'd love to buy them ingame, or even purchase box copies, but both seem impossible.
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That hoverboard can be bought in the mount store for 20g no less. 
 
There are ways to grow a playerbase, but this is not one of them. And this isn't an attempt to grow the playerbase either. They have to get rid of all their physical copies to prepare for a F2P launch unfortunately. 
I don't see any other rational reason for taking the copies off the shelves and wanting to get rid of them through these kind of promos, but we can also pretend it's for the sake of the playerbase. 	
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Or just buy the item you want on the Auction House like a NORMAL HUMAN BEING instead of complaining pointlessly about it on the forums.
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That hoverboard can be bought in the mount store for 20g no less. 
 
There are ways to grow a playerbase, but this is not one of them. And this isn't an attempt to grow the playerbase either. They have to get rid of all their physical copies to prepare for a F2P launch unfortunately. 
I don't see any other rational reason for taking the copies off the shelves and wanting to get rid of them through these kind of promos, but we can also pretend it's for the sake of the playerbase. 
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			I don't like this idea. Like most people, but just maybe these items are going to be in the new boxes that come from Contracts Reward 5. It does say "very rare reward including mounts, dyes, costumes and fabulous prizes!" So just maybe and if not they should be.	
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Does it get bound after you redeem it?
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Not account bound, you get one bag on your account when redeeming the code, and it grants one of the three items.
So basically you have one chance on one character to get the item you want.
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That hoverboard can be bought in the mount store for 20g no less. 
 
There are ways to grow a playerbase, but this is not one of them. And this isn't an attempt to grow the playerbase either. They have to get rid of all their physical copies to prepare for a F2P launch unfortunately. 
I don't see any other rational reason for taking the copies off the shelves and wanting to get rid of them through these kind of promos, but we can also pretend it's for the sake of the playerbase. 
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Think they'e planning a response for currently subbed players in regard to the concerns they have?
 
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To clarify this. 
 
You get a single item in your inventory. You bind that item to a character in order to open it. Once you open it, you'll get one of three consumable items. You can still trade them at this point. If you consume the item, then those are applied to the character that consumes them and can't be traded. 
 
The costume is slightly different, when you consume that item, you'll get 3 BoE costume items. Once you equip them, then they can no longer be traded. 
 
The holo-wardrobe will work with the costume, so while the pieces will be bound to a character that equips it, your account can still access the costume account-wide. 
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To clarify this. 
 
You get a single item in your inventory. You bind that item to a character in order to open it. Once you open it, you'll get one of three consumable items. You can still trade them at this point. If you consume the item, then those are applied to the character that consumes them and can't be traded. 
 
The costume is slightly different, when you consume that item, you'll get 3 BoE costume items. Once you equip them, then they can no longer be traded. 
 
The holo-wardrobe will work with the costume, so while the pieces will be bound to a character that equips it, your account can still access the costume account-wide. 
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So the answer is to shit all over Carbine. Nice. Guess this is yet another lesson in how fickle MMO players can be.
 
And btw I get that board on every character I ever make, for free. No purchase required. I also get a special title for preordering, even though people who bought the game within days of launch get nothing.
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Think they'e planning a response for currently subbed players in regard to the concerns they have?
 
 
 
Thanks for clarifying that! The costume stuff especially*hug*
Also ummm if I word anything wrong or something needs to be corrected in the OP please feel free to punch me and edit the post. :)
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And how is this acceptable? Why do I have to go out and pay for 3 more games that I already own? I've been subscribed for 11 months which is 165$. I bought the Digital Deluxe edition at launch which I believe was 75$? 
 
235$ spent on the game and you're trying to tell me my loyalty for what is soon to be a year and money isn't worth anything? Did you guys hire Archeage's promo guys or something because this is legitimately amongst the stupidest promotions I've ever bore witness to in any game I've played past and present. Disappointment doesn't even cover what I'm feeling right now. 
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Typ, I'd give you my spare costume, but you're on US....
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well thanks Carbine, Have a promotion on box sales after they are removed from shelves in Australia
 
SCREW YOU TOO
 
 
 
​that costume is awesome, that snaflelynx is the stupidest, most out of place in a game world mount I have ever seen and man, Trion didn't some awful ugly mounts but you just beat them
 
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It feels like I entered a upside down world considering everyone just willingly accepts just straight up bullshit like this? Oh sure it's alright. Next drop I'll perhaps get a loyalty reward which is a piece of sandpaper to wipe my ass with. Wait, we already got that, the Malgrave Sandwrap. What if I can buy it on AH for an obscene amount of platinum I don't have? Go farm it! Theres 3 of those items and you need them all to unlock a exclusive title too. Why is my Wildstar key worth less?
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To clarify this. 
 
You get a single item in your inventory. You bind that item to a character in order to open it. Once you open it, you'll get one of three consumable items. You can still trade them at this point. If you consume the item, then those are applied to the character that consumes them and can't be traded. 
 
The costume is slightly different, when you consume that item, you'll get 3 BoE costume items. Once you equip them, then they can no longer be traded. 
 
The holo-wardrobe (this is on the PTR at the moment) will work with the costume, so while the pieces will be bound to a character that equips it, your account can still access the costume account-wide. 
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			With the new costume system coming with Drop 5, will the costumes eventually be available to all of your characters?	
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​that costume is awesome, that snaflelynx is the stupidest, most out of place in a game world mount I have ever seen and man, Trion didn't some awful ugly mounts but you just beat them
 
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You haven't seen TERAs police car mount, have you? xD
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OHMY GOD....I had to look this up...its cupcaking real...WOW...jsut WOW
 
Now THAT  is some anachronistic stuff right there...
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A lot of Korea MMO's have these type of things, ArcheAge has a bunch of marketing stuff like Coke, and other big name products.  It's really popular over in Korea.
 
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This sound like the perfect gift for my best friend's birthday :D   . Even so, i want that kitty!!!!  :wub:
 
In other things. Chillia, what have you done? Where is Fluttershy?  :(  I wasn't able to recognize you  :P	
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well like I knew it was bad...but not that bad though...
The texturing and everything is jsut so off
 
I don't think the mounts Carbine did for this are anachronistic personally. Though I feel that the fat cat is very ummm.."Aurin", but still fitting style wise...
I think if it had to be something different it'd be a giant Vind...
 
However perhaps this is a discussion we should ahve in another thread about hw people feel on the degree of which is acceptable to them when it comes to cosmetics being designed in game? I think it's rather hard to really push cosmetics in Wildstar to be anachronistic given that it is a world that has a major corporation, relatable common themes, and is a universe that could very well have a lot of things similar to our own world. I think personally that as long as it's not something directly like that police mount, or a complete and total reference to real world it's fine...but that's just me. 	
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This sound like the perfect gift for my best friend's birthday :D   . Even so, i want that kitty!!!!  :wub:
 
In other things. Chillia, what have you done? Where is Fluttershy?  :(  I wasn't able to recognize you  :P
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This is what i did, and im not advertising ! 
 
I went to G2A and bought the WIldstar Standard Edition EU (because im an EU player)
Got the code from G2A and put it in my account on Wildstar
Logged in game and a Bag'o Riches was waiting for me
Bound the bag to account then to character 
Open the bag!
 
I bought 2 from G2A at £10 each, this gave me 60 days game time and 2 bags.
 
My bags gave me a fat kitty mount <3 and Kitty hoverboard!!
 	
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This is what i did, and im not advertising ! 
 
I went to G2A and bought the WIldstar Standard Edition EU (because im an EU player)
Got the code from G2A and put it in my account on Wildstar
Logged in game and a Bag'o Riches was waiting for me
Bound the bag to account then to character 
Open the bag!
 
I bought 2 from G2A at £10 each, this gave me 60 days game time and 2 bags.
 
My bags gave me a fat kitty mount <3 and Kitty hoverboard!!
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G2A is often not a official retailer though...
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No, but the keys work.
It's all about activating serial keys. Source is not imprtant.
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i thought you cared about the gaming industry
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I'm OK with this if it's an honest attempt to draw in new players. It's hard to get into an MMO once it's been out for a while, everyone's got stuff you don't and sometimes can't get, the game is established and you're a new kid in the old pond. It's almost intimidating. So I think this idea is decent because it offers new players some small measure of uh, 'clout', or whatnot. They can enter the game feeling a little special. I think that's important.
 
On the other side, it seems strange to make this boxes only. If the reason for the promotion is to simply draw in new players then the freebs should be going out with any sale, physical or digital, no? This suggests to me that they're trying to get rid of boxes more than trying to draw in players.
 
Consequently, I strongly suspect B2P or F2P.
 
My guess, thinking about the CREDD system and anti-F2P sentiments that exist in most gaming communities: This is the beginning of a B2P conversion with cash shop, and that the cash shop will contain gated items just like those offered in this promotion (probably including these as well, I don't think I saw 'exclusive', only 'limited time offer'... which means they swap the item to the cash shop after).
 
I don't know what now. Not believing anything yet, but  still feel unhappy. There's a strong premonition of conversion from this, and if Carbine/NCSoft don't comment in the near future, that bad feeling might fester.
 
 	
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I'm OK with this if it's an honest attempt to draw in new players. It's hard to get into an MMO once it's been out for a while, everyone's got stuff you don't and sometimes can't get, the game is established and you're a new kid in the old pond. It's almost intimidating. So I think this idea is decent because it offers new players some small measure of uh, 'clout', or whatnot. They can enter the game feeling a little special. I think that's important.
 
On the other side, it seems strange to make this boxes only. If the reason for the promotion is to simply draw in new players then the freebs should be going out with any sale, physical or digital, no? This suggests to me that they're trying to get rid of boxes more than trying to draw in players.
 
Consequently, I strongly suspect B2P or F2P.
 
My guess, thinking about the CREDD system and anti-F2P sentiments that exist in most gaming communities: This is the beginning of a B2P conversion with cash shop, and that the cash shop will contain gated items just like those offered in this promotion (probably including these as well, I don't think I saw 'exclusive', only 'limited time offer'... which means they swap the item to the cash shop after).
 
I don't know what now. Not believing anything yet, but  still feel unhappy. There's a strong premonition of conversion from this, and if Carbine/NCSoft don't comment in the near future, that bad feeling might fester.
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This is what i did, and im not advertising ! 
 
I went to G2A and bought the WIldstar Standard Edition EU (because im an EU player)
Got the code from G2A and put it in my account on Wildstar
Logged in game and a Bag'o Riches was waiting for me
Bound the bag to account then to character 
Open the bag!
 
I bought 2 from G2A at £10 each, this gave me 60 days game time and 2 bags.
 
My bags gave me a fat kitty mount <3 and Kitty hoverboard!!
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i thought you had to buy a physical box.  :o
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They can sell the code out of the boxes
 
http://www.polygon.com/2015/2/9/8006693/the-truth-behind-those-mysteriously-cheap-gray-market-game-codes
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			Guys if you're american and have a BB go there, it's only 19 or 16 with GCU.	
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Haven't looked at the local store yet, but online Gamestop increases the box price from $20 to $40.  Looks like the word is spreading.
 
Edit..
If boxes stayed at $20 dollars like were a couple of weeks ago was not a bad deal actually.  While a little more expensive than sub or game time cards, you are paying an equivalent to CREDD plus get a rare item.  But if boxes skyrocket to $40 or more then stop from being a good deal.  Not paying $40 for 30 days with or without an item.	
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I will not be worry about F2P/B2P until a cash shop lands somewhere.  And still luckily is nowhere to be found.
 
But...
 
But...
 
They could borrow GW2 cash shop code.  It has been proven by time.  And in that case, probably not much to test.	
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Not even gonna bother reading everything before saying this:
 
W...T...F?I would happily shell out 25$ for that kitty thingy but NO i am going to be forced to go to the mall now and go buy a stupid box i dont even need to get a code that MIGHT give me something I don't want...
 
This will bring in VERY limited new players. Most people don't buy boxes these days on top of that its not even freaking account bound what the heck!
 
I am unhappy with this... If they wanna cash shop so bad then make one, Like WoW have some awesome account bound mounts and pets. BAM theres your stupid sales. I am guilty of buying all of them, except that stupid ugly celestial horse thing.
 
-_-	
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I don't know what now. Not believing anything yet, but  still feel unhappy. There's a strong premonition of conversion from this, and if Carbine/NCSoft don't comment in the near future, that bad feeling might fester.
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Not even gonna bother reading everything before saying this:
 
W...T...F?
 
I would happily shell out 25$ for that kitty thingy but NO i am going to be forced to go to the mall now and go buy a stupid box i dont even need to get a code that MIGHT give me something I don't want...
 
This will bring in VERY limited new players. Most people don't buy boxes these days on top of that its not even freaking account bound what the heck!
 
 
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That bad feeling is already festering... I hope Carbine/NCSoft can give us something on current situation soon!
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ugh like i said, nix the boxes put that crap in a cash shop and sell it to me! ( just no stupid  gear/xp boost poo ) that's cheating :)
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