149009-suggestion-for-subs

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			currently as a paying sub, you get mostly in game boosts to acquiring things like xp, gold, omni bits, etc. and are able to access all aspects of the game that are restricted to f2p players, not really too much in reality.  i have heard people suggest a monthly allotment of ncoins or something.  I think this might be the best route, but NCsoft may have an issue with giving away a currency it controls.  what about fortune coins to use at madam faye?  this is just pixels traded for more random pixels, and i think it would be a nice little something extra for people who pay for a sub.  i think a monthly currency stipend will also help attract more players to the sub also.  other than leveling up and getting the bonuses, it loses a lot of its perks quickly.  this was a suggestion that i think would be a good start, does anyone else have an idea on making the sub a little bit more appealing and beneficial?
			
				
	Edited January 15, 2016 by Foul Wind	
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They can't give out an NCoin stipend, as NCoins are used in other games too. However, a few monthly Fortune Coins sounds like not a bad idea - and it has that "give them a taste and maybe they'll want more" lure for the marketing folk.
 
I also would not object to either an Omnibit stipend, or an increased cap for Omnibits. xD	
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			I would love an increased omni bit cap, solely for sub players would be nice.  i agree that the fortune coins may lure more people to buy them as well.  you get your meter almost full, only one or two more coins for a chance at an epic item, i think this would have people dipping into their wallets to finish it off.	
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			Agreed with both suggestions, Omnibits or fortune cookies sound good. It definitely would make me think about a possible sub. But like it is right now, I will not sub. 	
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They can't give out an NCoin stipend, as NCoins are used in other games too. However, a few monthly Fortune Coins sounds like not a bad idea - and it has that "give them a taste and maybe they'll want more" lure for the marketing folk.
 
I also would not object to either an Omnibit stipend, or an increased cap for Omnibits. xD
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			That's what I said. xD	
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I would like to see an omnibit stipend to be honest as its not really giving them away for free because I would be paying a monthly sub for it. Fortune Coins and raising the omnibit cap is also good ideas but they need to provide something more than what the current sub provides as there is not enough bang for your buck.
 
As I mentioned in another thread mine is up on April and I cant see me renewing it because its not as beneficial to me as just buying NCoin with the same amount of money.	
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I like the idea of taking away the caps on omnibits for subs, and increasing drop rates for them... The main reason to not have stipends is it encourages non-participation in actual gameplay; whereas the increased drop rates mean subs still have to play the game to get their rewards. 
 
Increased omnibit drop rate, take away the cap, and that's great for us subs. A stipend would mean more subs not participating in quests / content... and lower player concurrency
 
Don't pull an SWTOR....	
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			People willing to spend a monthly fee on this game deserve more than they're getting. They should get a sack of omnibits every month, for one. They should get half off service token prices for another. This game needs money and they should be bending over backward to make players willing to give them money month after month as happy as possible. Add enough good perks and I'll start up a sub again myself. 	
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People willing to spend a monthly fee on this game deserve more than they're getting. They should get a sack of omnibits every month, for one. They should get half off service token prices for another. This game needs money and they should be bending over backward to make players willing to give them money month after month as happy as possible. Add enough good perks and I'll start up a sub again myself. 
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They can't give out an NCoin stipend, as NCoins are used in other games too. However, a few monthly Fortune Coins sounds like not a bad idea - and it has that "give them a taste and maybe they'll want more" lure for the marketing folk.
 
I also would not object to either an Omnibit stipend, or an increased cap for Omnibits. xD
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That doesn't stop Daybreak from giving out Daybreak Cash with their All-Access plan on PC. It can be spent in the cash shop of any of their games.
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My biggest issue right now with signature is that we still have stupid high fees for dying clothing mostly. As a paying member I want to be able to change my outfit as much as I want without having to spend almost all my plat on it. Sheesh.
 
If they gave signature players like 10% of the cost of F2P players have for dying outfits, I would be so happy.	
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			All great ideas, but I'll echo what one of you said - we can't give NCoin since other NCSOFT titles depend upon it. However, that doesn't mean that we're not brainstorming ways to make Signature much more appetizing.	
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All great ideas, but I'll echo what one of you said - we can't give NCoin since other NCSOFT titles depend upon it. However, that doesn't mean that we're not brainstorming ways to make Signature much more appetizing.
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Also reducing the cost of dying outfits. I pay money for this game monthly, at least let me look fabulous :P 
Reduced cost for rune-related items would be nice too, and appearance modification.	
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Ideas from other games:
complimentary lockbox keys or simply allowing subscribers to open the boxes without keys
currency stipend (omnibits or service tokens in this case since ncoins are off the table)
cash shop discount (10% seems to be common)
reduced cooldowns on quick travel as well as reducing or eliminating the cost of quick travel
reduced cooldown on respawns as well as reducing or eliminating the cost of respawns
Just spitballing here...
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Mostly good, but the stipend is a no-no. Games that do currency stipends for subs (e.g. SWTOR) suffer from lower sub concurrency. Keeping it as an increased drop rate for omnibits (maybe making it a solid +25% increase for all subs, and making the tier reward +100% drop rate) keeps subs actually playing the game rather than just sitting around waiting for stipends like many did in SWTOR
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			Gonna add another suggestion to this thread, make the DJ Caretaker (if not the original, red version) a 3-month signature plan incentive and the Ikthian Crawler (if not the original, different shade of dark purple version) a 12-month signature plan incentive. I think a lot of players (especially those who's been around for a while, since drop 2 for example...) would really appreciate this.	
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... or simply allowing subscribers to open the boxes without keysThis, right now I feel like they doubble dip us that already pay a monthley fee with the events requiring us to make futher cash purchase.
I fully understand that this is a good way to bring in some revenue from the free players. But this scheme makes me feel like a sub isnt woth anything since they are trying to troll the subs into paying even more.	
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			I would love to see better incentives such as increased omnibit droprate and raised cap, reduced cost of all rune-related actions, reduced cost of applying dyes, giving signature players a chance to earn any event rewards by doing the event content (though this should include all players, but perhaps at different rates)...the signature status needs more actual gameplay value, in its current form it is far too weak.	
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			They already giving away NC coins on regular basis (but they named Omnibits). I guess you will never ever see Madam Fey's Lucky coins (except as a gift they made for Christmas), because this currency buys something that you can't buy with grind. And this is good, because running MMO is not a charity.	
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There is little point sweetening the sub deal at the moment, because all the long term subscribers are still using our bonus signature months. These expire in February.
 
In February there will be a number of players who have been long-term subbed/signature having to decide whether to sub again. I suspect that they will be offering a new imporved signature deal to tempt these players to sub again. I certainly don't see anything to tempt me at the moment, and I've been unsubbed for a total of about 6 weeks since launch.
 
Don't get me wrong, I won't stop playing, just there's no reason for me to pay for it at the moment.	
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They already giving away NC coins on regular basis (but they named Omnibits). I guess you will never ever see Madam Fey's Lucky coins (except as a gift they made for Christmas), because this currency buys something that you can't buy with grind. And this is good, because running MMO is not a charity.
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These are given away to subscribers and non-subscribers equally. They have the same soft cap but subscribers can reach them faster with the tier 5 perk. I would be willing to trade some of my other subscriber perks for an increased Omnibit cap.
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Trade? No. You should get this and more. Every player not paying a sub should think so, because you're making this game possible. 
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Whatever they do they can't just give subscribers everything or too much, it has to be a careful balance of giving subs something extra they feel is worth their money, while not giving them too much that they don't need to spend any money in the cash shop for all the vanity items they want. Ideally people will sub AND still buy stuff from the store like WoW. And if you want this game to get the resources it so greatly deserves you'll agree.
 
I also believe Carbine should ONLY give these extras to RL paid subs. Ingame CREDD is INSANELY cheap IMO (10-12 plat max on entity).	
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			remove the gold cost on wardrobe and stuff like that and i'd probably see it worth subbing.	
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			I actually prefer unlocking than subs as this means it will stay with me until the game closess. The only way I thinks subs would work is that some cash shops item could only be sold in subs like that eldan hoverbike or maybe even seeling high lvl purple gear or even orange gear and runes.	
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			revert back to p2p, thats what the subs want.	
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revert back to p2p, thats what the subs want.
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			I agree that omnibits are too generous, Carbine must carefully consider how they want to improve sub/signature considering how much they already offer free players.	
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seeling high lvl purple gear or even orange gear and runes.
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