149603-why-i-wont-play-this-game-no-rant

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Hello!
So, I just found out about this game, and thought about giving it a try. 
I downloaded it, created a character and all that. I also watched some reviews before and.. from what I can see, it seems to be a really good game, which I'd love to try out and play. The main reason am I not going to do so is because I can't run it, even with everything at ultra-low.
Here are my specs:				Processor							Intel® Pentium® CPU B970 @ 2.30GHz						Manufacturer							Intel						Speed							2.3 GHz						Number of Cores							2						Video Card							Intel® HD Graphics						Manufacturer							Intel						Chipset							Intel® HD Graphics						Dedicated Memory							32.0 MB						Total Memory							1.6 GB						Memory							4.0 GB						Operating System							Microsoft Windows 10 (build 10586), 64-bit						Service Pack							0						Size							64 Bit						Edition							 						Display Maximum Resolution							1366 x 768						DVD							MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ8C0						CD							MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ8C0						Drive 1							 						Size							387.6 GB						Free							375.9 GB						Drive 2							 						Size							77.8 GB						Free							54.7 GB		 
Now.. I know I don't have a gaming laptop. I use a Sony Vaio, and yes, I know that it's pretty bad for games BUT I have no problems running plenty of popular games today at normal. Why is it that this game is so demanding in comparison with the others?
How do the developers think they will bring more people into the game if it isn't even playable for the low-end plebs? I never understood why some games are made to be so demanding that not everybody can run them. 
I'm really sad and disappointed that I can't play this, as it looks really good.
 
Please, devs, consider the low-end plebs too, not everybody owns a gaming machine. : * (
 	
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			What kind of FPS were you getting and where?	
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Thats a 4 year old, low end mobile CPU... Honestly, what do you expect? Your laptop doesn't even have a graphics card. And 4 gigs of RAM is the bare minimum for basic tasks anymore on a Windows box, yet alone gaming.
 
MMOs are notorious CPU hogs. Thats the nature of the beast. 
 
Theres such a thing as catering to people without gaming machines... But your machine doesn't even fall within that range. Your laptop was built for web browsing and very light use.
 
Go to Wal-Mart and pick up a cheap desktop, pop in a mid grade GPU, and you'd be golden. WildStar is poorly optimized, but your expectations are beyond the realm of reason.	
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			It sounds like you're running on a laptop with an integrated graphics card. Unfortunately, that is never a recipe for even halfway decent fps.	
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			You don't need a gaming machine to run this game, my computer is 8 years old and I run the game just fine but I do have an upgraded graphics card.  I'm not a computer guru by any means but looks to me like you just need to upgrade your video card.
			
				
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 I have no problems running plenty of popular games today at normal. 
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Do you run other new MMO's though?...
 
MMO's tend to be heavier on hardware than single player games just by their very nature.
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Hello!
So, I just found out about this game, and thought about giving it a try. 
I downloaded it, created a character and all that. I also watched some reviews before and.. from what I can see, it seems to be a really good game, which I'd love to try out and play. The main reason am I not going to do so is because I can't run it, even with everything at ultra-low.
Here are my specs:Processor Intel® Pentium® CPU B970 @ 2.30GHz Manufacturer Intel Speed 2.3 GHz Number of Cores 2 Video Card Intel® HD Graphics Manufacturer Intel Chipset Intel® HD Graphics Dedicated Memory 32.0 MB Total Memory 1.6 GB Memory 4.0 GB Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 (build 10586), 64-bit Service Pack 0 Size 64 Bit Edition   Display Maximum Resolution 1366 x 768 DVD MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ8C0 CD MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ8C0 Drive 1   Size 387.6 GB Free 375.9 GB Drive 2   Size 77.8 GB Free 54.7 GB 
Now.. I know I don't have a gaming laptop. I use a Sony Vaio, and yes, I know that it's pretty bad for games BUT I have no problems running plenty of popular games today at normal. Why is it that this game is so demanding in comparison with the others?
How do the developers think they will bring more people into the game if it isn't even playable for the low-end plebs? I never understood why some games are made to be so demanding that not everybody can run them. 
I'm really sad and disappointed that I can't play this, as it looks really good.
 
Please, devs, consider the low-end plebs too, not everybody owns a gaming machine. : * (
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You run really low-end and expect the game to come down on your level?
Normally people upgrade their hardwares. Atleast into something normal levels.
And LoL isn't MMO, it's MOBA. Even my coffeemaker can run those.
And WoW is still ugly looking even on high-end.
No rant.	
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Your problem is your laptop.
The hardware you listed is not even remotely close to what is needed for playing Wildstar.
 
First of all your CPU lacks the required power to even properly run all calculations.
This may sound harsh, but an Intel Pentium B970 ?
That's a really old Dual Core CPU for entry-level laptops.
Not even remotely close to a modern CPU needed for playing games.
 
And then your graphics...
Intel HD Graphics is like having no graphics card at all.
Your resources for display are shared with the resources for your whole system.
This takes such a major hit on performance....
 
I'm surprised you actually succeed at running Windows 10 on this system with any acceptable performance.
If you wish to be playing WildStar, you are going to need a severaly more powerful Laptop/PC	
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			Can anybody suggest me a cheap laptop which would run Wildstar with playable FPS?	
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I do. I run SWTOR on Medium settings with no problem.
 
Really, really bad FPS. Don't know the number, but it was unplayable. Right at the starting area, I couldn't play the game.
 
They aren't.. most successful multiplayer games today are on some extent successful because of their availability. For example, League of Legends or WoW. Everybody can run those.  
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			Really im playing on a old laptop and it works perfectly not Alienware perfectly but good enough to run	
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Can anybody suggest me a cheap laptop which would run Wildstar with playable FPS?
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			Check Newegg.com or Tiger Direct.com you may find something over there around the price you can afford.	
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Hello!
So, I just found out about this game, and thought about giving it a try. 
I downloaded it, created a character and all that. I also watched some reviews before and.. from what I can see, it seems to be a really good game, which I'd love to try out and play. The main reason am I not going to do so is because I can't run it, even with everything at ultra-low.
Here are my specs:Processor Intel® Pentium® CPU B970 @ 2.30GHz Manufacturer Intel Speed 2.3 GHz Number of Cores 2 Video Card Intel® HD Graphics Manufacturer Intel Chipset Intel® HD Graphics Dedicated Memory 32.0 MB Total Memory 1.6 GB Memory 4.0 GB Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 (build 10586), 64-bit Service Pack 0 Size 64 Bit Edition   Display Maximum Resolution 1366 x 768 DVD MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ8C0 CD MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ8C0 Drive 1   Size 387.6 GB Free 375.9 GB Drive 2   Size 77.8 GB Free 54.7 GB 
Now.. I know I don't have a gaming laptop. I use a Sony Vaio, and yes, I know that it's pretty bad for games BUT I have no problems running plenty of popular games today at normal. Why is it that this game is so demanding in comparison with the others?
How do the developers think they will bring more people into the game if it isn't even playable for the low-end plebs? I never understood why some games are made to be so demanding that not everybody can run them. 
I'm really sad and disappointed that I can't play this, as it looks really good.
 
Please, devs, consider the low-end plebs too, not everybody owns a gaming machine. : * (
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			i would fix the title "why i CANT play this game." that should clear things up.	
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			Why a lap top though? You will get a lot more for the same price.	
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You may have better luck running Wildstar on this: 	
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You may have better luck running Wildstar on this: 
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Why a lap top though? You will get a lot more for the same price.
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Hello!
So, I just found out about this game, and thought about giving it a try. 
I downloaded it, created a character and all that. I also watched some reviews before and.. from what I can see, it seems to be a really good game, which I'd love to try out and play. The main reason am I not going to do so is because I can't run it, even with everything at ultra-low.
Here are my specs:Processor Intel® Pentium® CPU B970 @ 2.30GHz Manufacturer Intel Speed 2.3 GHz Number of Cores 2 Video Card Intel® HD Graphics Manufacturer Intel Chipset Intel® HD Graphics Dedicated Memory 32.0 MB Total Memory 1.6 GB Memory 4.0 GB Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 (build 10586), 64-bit Service Pack 0 Size 64 Bit Edition   Display Maximum Resolution 1366 x 768 DVD MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ8C0 CD MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ8C0 Drive 1   Size 387.6 GB Free 375.9 GB Drive 2   Size 77.8 GB Free 54.7 GB 
Now.. I know I don't have a gaming laptop. I use a Sony Vaio, and yes, I know that it's pretty bad for games BUT I have no problems running plenty of popular games today at normal. Why is it that this game is so demanding in comparison with the others?
How do the developers think they will bring more people into the game if it isn't even playable for the low-end plebs? I never understood why some games are made to be so demanding that not everybody can run them. 
I'm really sad and disappointed that I can't play this, as it looks really good.
 
Please, devs, consider the low-end plebs too, not everybody owns a gaming machine. : * (
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I move a lot from place to place and I can't carry a desktop on train/bus. More than that, I can use the laptop everywhere, I'm not bound to sit on a chair. Also, when I was using desktop, my back used to hurt a lot from the sitting position. I really dislike desktops. 
Thanks for replies and all that. Once I'll afford a new laptop, I'll check this game again. It's a pity tough, I really wanted to play it.. :(
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If that truly was the case ? We'd all still be stuck playing pong and moaning space invaders was killing our system  	
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I kind of ... understand OP. I mean I LOVE Wildstar to death, and I'm not saying this because I hate the game or anything:
Wildstar has a very lighthearted, colorful art style that easily catches the attention of these low-end players. I mean who'd have thought the game is that demanding from the graphics alone? If the game has more realistic art style, perhaps, people would be more cautious, or at least, more forgiving.
Then comes the f2p model. Normally, if there's a price to pay, people would research more before trying out the game because they don't want to waste their money on the game they can't even run. But the f2p model gives rise to the mindset that there's nothing to lose, no string attached.
And finally they hit the wall of performance and taste that sweet mother of optimization for the very first time. And all dreams are shattered.
Lighthearted art style + Free to play model = hype them up all the way to heaven
Then *cupcake* optimization = drop them all the way to the bottom of the ocean
This does not only shut the door on the face of every low-end pc/laptop user, but also kick them really hard to make sure they never return. I mean who would really go out of their way to upgrade their system just to play a game they're not even sure is good? Normally, I think people would just go back to their old games.
Just my 2 coppers.	
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If that truly was the case ? We'd all still be stuck playing pong and moaning space invaders was killing our system  
 
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 :)) Of course it's not true for everyone, I'm just trying to understand the OP. But you've got to admit that Wildstar isn't mindblowing enough for most people to upgrade their system just to play it. I think the low-end users came to this game because they thought: "hey, my laptop would probably play this at decent fps". It kind of defeats the purpose if they just upgrade their systems lol.
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I kind of ... understand OP. I mean I LOVE Wildstar to death, and I'm not saying this because I hate the game or anything:
Wildstar has a very lighthearted, colorful art style that easily catches the attention of these low-end players. I mean who'd have thought the game is that demanding from the graphics alone? If the game has more realistic art style, perhaps, people would be more cautious, or at least, more forgiving.
Then comes the f2p model. Normally, if there's a price to pay, people would research more before trying out the game because they don't want to waste their money on the game they can't even run. But the f2p model gives rise to the mindset that there's nothing to lose, no string attached.
And finally they hit the wall of performance and taste that sweet mother of optimization for the very first time. And all dreams are shattered.
Lighthearted art style + Free to play model = hype them up all the way to heaven
Then *cupcake* optimization = drop them all the way to the bottom of the ocean
This does not only shut the door on the face of every low-end pc/laptop user, but also kick them really hard to make sure they never return. I mean who would really go out of their way to upgrade their system just to play a game they're not even sure is good? Normally, I think people would just go back to their old games.
Just my 2 coppers.
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			The optimisation aint great but do yourself a favour, get a new laptop/PC!  :rolleyes:	
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			And without being nasty, I'm not sure the rig could even play my pets video 1080p full screen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg7Dq3RwH_A let alone the game	
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Nobody can expect for devs to lower specs even more for true low-end users to be able to play the game, at the expense of the more common mid-range and high end users. You also say that nobody can be expected to upgrade their system for a game they might not like? I'm sorry but a system like OP's won't really run anything really good these days except really low spec games like Undertale if anything.
 
The computer industry is like this: if it's 5 years it's old and needs replacing. OP's specs are of systems you'd buy about 5-8 years ago. Like I stated before, you can easily find much better mid-range laptops with proper hardware that can run most new games on low or medium.
 
I don't know what country you're all from but here in Belgium you can get a student job for 2 months while you're still in school and most places pay about 8-10 euros an hour. You can easily make 1280 euros in one month, which is more than enough to buy a high end computer. Even if you only earn 5 euros an hour, you can still earn 800 which is more than enough for a very good mid range or cheap "high end". If you actually have a job and cut corners, I'm sure you can set aside at least 150-200 euros in a month (I'm living together with my boyfriend and I can even set aside more, we both pay taxes/groceries/rent 50-50). With that you can save up for a very nice computer/laptop in only 6-8 months.
 
My point here is that it's not impossible to save up for a new rig. I see and hear excuses everywhere that it's "impossible" and "low end plebs" can't upgrade easily. No, maybe it's not easy to save up some money, but it is possible and if you save up long enough and do proper research, you can buy a good high end rig that can last you for 5-6 years and by that time you'll have set aside enough to buy a new one. Also don't buy prefab if you want a desktop, research and buy the parts and assemble  it yourself. For laptops: always go for a decent laptop with a graphics card that's NOT integrated (Nvidia graphics cards on laptops are really great!).
 
Before I did a summer job when I was still in school I didn't have a very good computer either and always running behind on "richer families" that could afford a good system for their kids (my mom worked as cleaning lady and my dad at a factory). I just looked for a summer job as cleaning lady and bought me a pretty good "high end" pc for 1200 euros, which lasted me 6 years before I really needed to upgrade it, for I couldn't run the latest games that I wanted to play. Now I got a steady job with an average salary and I upgraded my PC just last year with the money I set aside from working. 1000-1200 is more than enough for a VERY good system that can run most new games at ultra (I'm even counting in the empty tower itself).
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Pepper, thanks for sharing but I'm afraid you misunderstood me. I wasn't talking about financial issue. If I have enough money to buy 500 bags of Doritos, do you think I will immediately buy myself a mountain of Doritos? No, I wouldn't, simply because I don't need it. Same thing here, video game is just a form of entertainment. It isn't a necessity. How do you think the OP survive for years with his toas... I mean laptop? My guess being that he either played older games, or didn't care that much about gaming at all. It was never a question of whether or not you can upgrade, but whether or not you need to upgrade. And while I really love the game, I seriously doubt many low-end users would upgrade their systems just to play Wildstar.
 
Oh and, just to be clear: I did NOT suggest that the dev lower the game graphics for low-end users. For crying out loud, I don't even know if that's possible lol.
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			I have a moderately decent PC which runs pretty much every mmo well except for WildStar. Sometimes I'll enter a zone, like hopes dare, and my FPS will drop to <5, despite the fact that no one else is around; that is crimial for a game that barely has better graphics than WoW. WS is easily the worst optimised game I have; with the optimisation issues in mind, you're not going to be able to play this game at an acceptable framerate on anything less than a gaming PC so laptops are pretty much a no-go.	
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Pepper, thanks for sharing but I'm afraid you misunderstood me. I wasn't talking about financial issue. If I have enough money to buy 500 bags of Doritos, do you think I will immediately buy myself a mountain of Doritos? No, I wouldn't, simply because I don't need it. Same thing here, video game is just a form of entertainment. It isn't a necessity. How do you think the OP survive for years with his toas... I mean laptop? My guess being that he either played older games, or didn't care that much about gaming at all. It was never a question of whether or not you can upgrade, but whether or not you need to upgrade. And while I really love the game, I seriously doubt many low-end users would upgrade their systems just to play Wildstar.
 
Oh and, just to be clear: I did NOT suggest that the dev lower the game graphics for low-end users. For crying out loud, I don't even know if that's possible lol.
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So....you got like a potato with a stick of ram in it ? Yeah, going to have problems.
 
And as other people said...unless you get a decent desktop, you are going to want to get a recent Dell XPS laptop or Alienware/Razer Blade to play it well.	
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I did a search for "mid range nvidia game laptops"("nvidia" because it seems to be the best one to handle W*).  I'm no expert on any of this, hell can't even give an idea of what to get, but here's some of the results and the better educated posters can chime in :D
 
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2020688,00.asp
 
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/the-best-budget-gaming-laptop-so-far/
 
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/mobile-computing/laptops/best-gaming-laptops-top-5-gaming-notebooks-reviewed-1258471
 
https://laptopninja.io/finding-the-best-gaming-laptops-under-1000-dollars/	
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			If you really must have a laptop, okay. Let's start with you giving us your budget for a new laptop. "Cheap" is subjective. Just trying to help avoid a headache when someone links you a laptop that is 3 to 4 times what you've budgeted.	
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I didn't say that you need to buy doritos if you can. I'm saying that if you invest in a big bag of doritos you're going to have a better value and it'll last you a day or two instead of buying a small bag that'll last you 2 hours before it's empty. And not because you CAN but because you WANT TO. If you don't want to invest in it, don't?
 
If someone doesn't care to upgrade their gaming rig every 5 years at least, then they shouldn't come here to write a forum post about how their ancient machine can't handle the game. This wasn't about Wildstar specifically either; if you can't run Wildstar you can't run half of the modern games coming out at this point. This doesn't even have anything to do with bad optimisation, OP's laptop can't run most games properly at all. This is mostly because it properly can't handle its own OS let alone play games on it. The graphics card on it, as stated by multiple people here before, is as good as having no graphics card at all.
 
Gaming isn't a "necessity" for me either, but it's a hobby I'm willing to invest in. In all honesty, upgrading every 4-5 years isn't an issue for me and gaming is one of the cheapest hobbies one can have. But if it isn't a big thing for you and you don't want to upgrade to stay up to date, that's your choice and to be respected, but again, don't come on the forum of a game and "complain" you can't play it because your specs are too low.
 
For this game the specs are more than agreeable and if you can't run Wildstar on ultra low properly on your gaming rig, it's probably ancient and needs updating to play any recent game. The thing is that the specifications of OP's laptop SEEM okay, but they aren't. If they had an nvidia graphics card and windows 7 running on the laptop, they would be able to play Wildstar.
 
I do agree that Wildstar is poorly optimised, but many other games are too. This mostly depends on your graphics card. But if we look at this "issue" from two sides: OP is asking Carbine to inject money for the niche people who maybe want to play the game for free; on the other hand OP could upgrade his system to play the game. It all depends on how you look at it.
 
In the end again, the laptop of OP is really bad and needs replacing to play any modern game properly at all.
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http://www.amazon.com/F555LA-EH51-Intel-Laptop-Windows-64bit/dp/B015790WNI/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1455334515&sr=1-6&keywords=Laptop&refinements=p_36%3A40000-50000
 
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-15-6-inch-Performance-Touchscreen-Processor/dp/B0197Z2MN6/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1455334515&sr=1-5&keywords=Laptop&refinements=p_36%3A40000-50000
 
 
Two laptops, one is 450, other is 500
 
Dunno if those are to expensive for you...but honestly if so you should just save up for a couple months and buy one, I don't think those are all to amazing, but they WILL run Wildstar	
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I'm sorry pepper, but I got a feeling that you are dissecting my comment and disagree with every little thing I said. Honestly, I don't even know why we're having this conversation because I agree with everything you said. I never claim the OP shouldn't upgrade. But justifying your upgrade over only one game? Hobby or not, at the very least, he should make sure Wildstar is a really dang good game. Modern games always come out, how did you think he survived all these years with his laptop? Obviously, he didn't find the need to upgrade. Btw, I think you're underestimating his graphics card. There's a pool of older single player games that he can play, if he's willing to look for it (I know because I used to own a laptop like his). But it all comes down to what the OP wants. Why don't you ask him rather than ... me?
 
Yes, the OP did post on this forum, and I think it is because he misunderstood the cartoony art style = less demanding. I don't know who should really be blamed for that. I have no quarrel with you about the game's specs. But Wildstar's presentation is misleading. From the trailer and gameplay footage, Wildstar appears to be a game with cartoony art style and lower texture compared to other games in the current market. The graphics reminds me of Ratchet & Clank, not Grand Theft Auto. He never knew how demanding the game truly is until he tried it out the first time. If the game had a more realistic art style, I'm sure the OP wouldn't even try the game in the first place let alone posting on this forum lol.
 
Again, I'm not here to argue with you (what are we arguing about?). I'm just trying to understand why the OP's disappointed that much with this game in particular. I mean there's a mountain of games out there that his laptop couldn't play. But ultimately, I think it is because of the game's art style + f2p model that hyped him up so badly, that he became so disappointed he couldn't play the game in the end, poor optimization or not.
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Ok, sorry about all the quotes here. I hope I can clear up everything with this comment.
 
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I stated multiple times that this isn't about just Wildstar but other games as well, so yeah I don't really know why you keep pointing at me that I would be suggesting that he should upgrade over one game.
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Ok, sorry about all the quotes here. I hope I can clear up everything with this comment.
 
Now now, you misunderstood me again. I didn't point my finger at you. I was referring to the OP when I said "one" game. A guy living with his magical toaster in 2016 and never thought about upgrading it? I understand your concept about investment, and I will repeat as many time as it takes until you get it: I agree. Upgrading your system is beneficial if you have multiple games on your wishlist. But is that the case with the OP? I don't recall he mentioned any other game he's having trouble with at the moment. The guy even stated his laptop could run WOW and SWTOR. What does that tell you about him?
 
Yikes! I don't defend him. I'm trying to understand him. I already said I didn't know who to blame in my previous comment. If anything, it's more like I'm feeling sympathize with the OP lol.
 
I wasn't referring to graphics with that quote. I was thinking Wildstar being an MMO, it takes time until you can truly know if the game is for you. If your computer can't even play the tutorial level properly, which is the case with all the low-end users, then the game simply isn't mindblowing enough for them to rush towards the nearest PC store.
 
Pepper, seriously, what do you expect me to respond, when you keep telling me things that I agree with you? LOL
To be fair though, I used to own a VAIO S laptop with Intel HD graphics card about 4 years ago. I was able to play Kingdoms of Amalur Reckoning at the time with roughly 30-40 fps with everything turn to lowest at 720p. And the rats in that game look like this:
I know, I know. There's a lot of other things to account for, especially when it comes to single player games vs MMO, but what do you think is going on in the mind of a low-end pc owner? He only thinks: "I can run this game". And then he carries that mentality everywhere he goes. Is that his fault for assuming? Yeah, totally. But at the same time, being another low-end pc user, I sort of sympathize with the guy.
 
Uhm, you weren't exactly talking to me. The whole discussion wasn't my logic. I was trying to justify the OP's mentality. Putting me in his shoes kind of thing. I'm sorry if you were confused.
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Yeah with that last sentence you really cleared things up, as it seemed that you were trying to get his point over to others as well, sorry!
 
For the love of god, what is this potato game? ;) A rat? Don't you mean... a mutant bear??? For the love of everything holy :D
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This is a really comedic thread. I literally died when I read the specs, I'm no longer apart of this earth. Although, I'm surprised you were even able to open wildstar with only 4gb.
 
 
 
Please, devs, consider the low-end plebs too, not everybody owns a gaming machine. : * (
 
 
If you don't have a gaming rig you probably shouldn't be playing an MMO. Doesn't even have to be an expensive one, if you wan't to at play MMO's go drop a minimum of 800 bucks and you'll get something you can run this game with on medium settings. 
			
				
	Edited February 14, 2016 by qqmoarploxify	
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			look for a cheap intel 5th gen laptop (there are plenty with 6th gen now out in full force) if you can find one dell inspiron 3543 is a solid deal...upgrade the memory to 8gb (I can play with 4gb currently on mine). the intel 5500 graphics is sufficient to get you playing just disable nameplates from add-on menu!	
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			I seriously LOL'd when I saw 32mb vid memory...still rofling	
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