116119-wheres-the-rp-channel

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			Cant seem to find the dedicated RP channel the devs said would be in place..	
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Didn't see it on PTR, don't see it on live.. I'm guessing they meant for the players to make a custom channel, not that there's an actual /rp channel to talk on.
 
Or maybe it's part of Drop 3 instead of the MS changes?
 
I need to know so I can put it in my addon.	
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Hello, It seems the FAQ hasn't been updated but there is no RP channel moving forward with megaservers (please feel free to create a custom channel if you wish!) instead, we have created an RP tag for players. CRB_Anlath explains it here. 
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The RP Chat Tag is a short tag you put before your in-game text, that allows *only those who have set themselves to see RP chat* can see.How to use the RP Text Visibility & RP Chat Tag.If you go to your chat options, in the options menu (see screenshot below) you will see that there is an option for Roleplaying text Visibility. You can select to display both (normal chat and roleplay chat), RP chat only, or No RP chat at all (this is the default option, so you need to activate it on purpose).   Once you’ve set your RP text visibility, you simply need to add the; {*} tag before your text. For example;/say {*}Greetings, traveler. This text would *only* appear to nearby users (the same radius as the normal /say channel) who have enabled RP text visibility.If you do not wish to type the tag every time, add-ons can be (and have been) developed to add it automatically for you.
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Hello,
 
It seems the FAQ hasn't been updated but there is no RP channel moving forward with megaservers (please feel free to create a custom channel if you wish!) instead, we have created an RP tag for players. CRB_Anlath explains it here.
 
 
- Team WildStar
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Here's my problem with it:
 
Before selecting RP Only.
 
 
After Selecting RP Only
 
 
 
Here's my chat settings if you're wondering.  That little RP? Bubble doesn't do anythign for the channel either.
 
 
This "feature" actually breaks my RP experience. I can't see my IC guild, I can't see my RP circles. I can't even see whispers. I can't see who goes on or offline. I can't see anything.	
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Rocio,
 
You need to select All Messages if you want to see "normal" chat channels as well as RP.	
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Thanks, Anlath.
 
Is there an addon that lets me custom filter chat at the click of a button? I would like to use that please so that when I want to RP comfortable I don't need to flip a bunch of switches.	
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I see Killroy screen shots up there, and from an older version of Killroy, so I'm going to interject a few things here that get confusing.
 
First, the default ChatLog has an RP filter, this is what Anlath is talking about. Every message you send with ChatLog gets tagged with a set of variables. One of those variables is called "bRoleplay". If you enter the prefix characters "{*}" into a send, your chat get's tagged by ChatLog as RP, in any channel you do it in. The filter looks for that variable and displays chat accordingly. The default setting is "NoRP" so it hides RP Chat. If you set it to "All Messages" then you see both RP and non-RP chat.
 
Killroy on the other hand does a couple of different things. In the version shown above, the RP checkbox is for RP Channel Formatting. That's the part of Killroy that turns asterisk e-motes into Emote formatted colors and emote quotes into Say color. That can be enabled on a channel by channel basis, so that you can use any channel as an RP channel and have Killroy's nice formatting. However, it does NOT effect the "bRoleplay" variable in any way. All chat is assumed to be non-RP unless it gets tagged with that "{*}" prefix character. Killroy will auto insert {*} for you, if you enable the setting, and are chatting in RP Only mode (ChatLog Filter RP Only) as a convenience, but that's it.
 
The most recent version of Killroy implements another control which allows you to set the use of the ChatLog RP filter on a channel by channel basis. It adds three new buttons which tooltip to show "NoRP", "RPOnly", and "ShowAll", mirroring what you'd see for the global setting in ChatLog. However, Killroy defaults to "ShowAll" for all channels instead of "NoRP." Why channel by channel? Well this allows you to have "RP Only" on channels like "Say" or "Yell", which are meant to be taken in character, while not having to see all the noise of non-roleplayers in those channels. But it also allows you to see all the chat in normal social channels and circles for example, which the default global filter would hide from you if you set it to RP only. For clarity's sake, this version of Killroy also hides and takes over the other ChatLog settings, so you can control it all from one dialog.
 
I hope this makes things more clear. If you're a Killroy user and you have questions about how it works, don't hesitate to contact me. I need to build a small manual at this point, it's grown so much. Until then though, I'll answer any questions folks have to the best of my ability. Thanks for your attention.	
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.... *cling* o.o
 
So do I just reinstall Killroy and I can have my cake and RP eat it?	
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I think the purpose of the chat setting was more to be able to do two things:
 
1.  Allow RPers to RP in public places without other folks hearing (read: making fun of) what they say.
 
2.  Allow RPers to turn off non-RP chat if they're RPing in a public place and don't want to hear "lol arpeez wut" or whatever.
 
Still using WSRP myself as a global channel, and my guild channel as well of course.  It's not a perfect system, but it's an attempt.
 
My main whine is that good golly, {*} is a PITA to type out in game every time I want to talk (shift key much?), and there's no macro function to shorten it, either.  Couldn't we get a keybind or something a little less of a pain to type out every time I want to say, "Well howdy there Vela!"  I think it took me 30 minutes to explain to another RPer how to use the {*} before text.
 
Failing that, a more clear help window/description in game of the setting and how to use it would be really helpful.  90% of my guild members don't even read game forums, under the Mos Eisley rule . "Mos Eisley Spaceport - you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious."  It's not that these forums are that toxic, but given most of us got our start in Another Game, well - as they say, you never forget your first.	
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I'm so happy. Scrip and DJ Malak rescued me from drowning in confusion.
 
Tabs! I did not no this. But Tabs is what I need! Yay for zee tabs.	
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I think the purpose of the chat setting was more to be able to do two things:
 
1.  Allow RPers to RP in public places without other folks hearing (read: making fun of) what they say.
 
2.  Allow RPers to turn off non-RP chat if they're RPing in a public place and don't want to hear "lol arpeez wut" or whatever.
 
Still using WSRP myself as a global channel, and my guild channel as well of course.  It's not a perfect system, but it's an attempt.
 
My main whine is that good golly, {*} is a PITA to type out in game every time I want to talk (shift key much?), and there's no macro function to shorten it, either.  Couldn't we get a keybind or something a little less of a pain to type out every time I want to say, "Well howdy there Vela!"  I think it took me 30 minutes to explain to another RPer how to use the {*} before text.
 
Failing that, a more clear help window/description in game of the setting and how to use it would be really helpful.  90% of my guild members don't even read game forums, under the Mos Eisley rule . "Mos Eisley Spaceport - you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious."  It's not that these forums are that toxic, but given most of us got our start in Another Game, well - as they say, you never forget your first.
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Thanks for dropping in, Scriptorium and for all the updates with Killroy. :D
 
In general, we wanted to elect for "default off" setting because the majority of players won't want to use it and it will help "protect" Roleplayers from the usual "LOL WUT U GUYZ TALKIN LEIK DAT 4?" stuff you get from certain player types.I agree, it does mean that people who like RP have to "buy in" so to speak and all use the same options. Hopefully that's something we can help spread the word about. :)	
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I dunno... but last night in guild we had a blast doing this:
 
/g No, {*}no{*}, no. Not at {*}all{*}.
 
To get...
 
Kaelish Brightsky: No, no, no. Not at all.
 
The italics were fun to play with...
 
Edit: I can't figure out how to get the color text back to default without making it black on the post. Ugh.	
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@Anlath, Ayep, that's pretty much what we all figured (why the default is "NoRP"). Unfortunately, the side effect is though that most players (and thereby most roleplayers) don't use it, because odds are, their chat will be missed by someone if they do. Getting role-players all on the same page is kind of like this video:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsiH-KA1vgQ	
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I refuse to use those things. :| Not gonna hide away in some corner of the chat where no one can be "bothered" by us. It's honestly a little insulting, though I'm sure Carbine means well.
 
A bit disappointing, though, that they said they were going to implement a zone-wide RP channel and then... never actually did.	
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I refuse to use those things. :| Not gonna hide away in some corner of the chat where no one can be "bothered" by us. It's honestly a little insulting, though I'm sure Carbine means well.
 
A bit disappointing, though, that they said they were going to implement a zone-wide RP channel and then... never actually did.
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This is a little disappointing. There has to be an easier way than making them type {*} before all their RP. Maybe a flag they can flip on and off per channel, so when they're in RP mode, they don't have to type it all the time (yes, I see Kilroy does this now, so we know it's possible for Carbine to do too).
 
I also think all messages should be on by default, not hide RP like it's a pair of dirty underwear. I challenge your "most players don't want to see it" and say "Most players don't care either way" and the ones that do can take the time to turn it off. I had my RP messages turned on within 30 seconds of logging in, because the first thing I do in every game is go to the chat window and mess with the settings.
 
This is coming from someone who does not RP, btw.	
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			I was going to say that Mae, but I'm already over my assigned number of whine posts for today.	
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Yeah I uninstalled Killroy because the speech bubbles were misbehaving and it was all a little bit confusing what it was doing and I didn't have time to go digging in the lua.
The big problem I found with Killroy is it uses it's own language and doesn't seem to respect the WS terms which makes it tricky to figure out what it's doing.
A simple /rs /rp or whatever for roleplaying say channel might be nice. I get that {*} means you can type RP text into any window but it's cumbersome to type.
As a result when RP goes into private spaces like housing almost everyone defaults to normal say.
This doesn't sound like a problem but it makes it REALLY hard to get people to use {*} in other places.
 
Also I'm really concerned that analytics will then point to people not roleplaying.... but that's me probably worrying too much.
Though I would be fascinated to dig into how many people use /e command and the correlation to roleplay... mmm sexy Tableau charts.	
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I think a few folks have misunderstood my post here;
 
I am not saying we want to "stop RPers bothering others" or imply we want to hide RP away. We want to *protect* RPers from the griefing that many worried about when moving to a PvE ruleset server.
 
That is also why we didn't introduce a global RP Channel as mentioned, as many gave feedback that this simply wouldn't work for RPers (they wanted to use the existing channels) and would still invite griefing.
 
I understand that adding the tag can be frustrating, and hopefully we can work to have a "turn on/off" flag or checkbox for the future. In the interim, addons like Killroy are a great option and offer that functionality (as well as other awesome features that RPers would find useful). Or if somebody wants to create a more basic add-on that simply adds the tag by default, it can be done.	
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I need to try this out, but I'm curious...
What is the range on this? Is it the same as /say would be if you did an RP /say {*}?	
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Rocio made a dramatic Scene in Thayd yesterday. I also played a romantic scene in the 
Arborian Gardens.
 
So far so good. The tabs are wonderful. No griefing so far. 
 
People not interested in RP are more likely to inhabit "practical areas" Like the auction house or crafting kiosks. RP channel would probably be most useful there.	
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			In addition to Killroy there's also KiruBox ... for the more basic stuff. #neglectedplug	
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			P.S. /say range is still way way too big, tho it did lead me (eventually... took me a while to find them) to some RP last night.	
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			How could such a simple idea for such a simple feature fail to meet its expectations?  	
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I am not saying we want to "stop RPers bothering others" or imply we want to hide RP away. We want to *protect* RPers from the griefing that many worried about when moving to a PvE ruleset server.
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@Anlath,
 
I understand where you or Carbine are coming from. However, Is there no way that RP specific chat could be less cumbersome. I am 51 and have never been a quick typist. I have never been trained to type as they didn't do that way back when. To top it off my fingers have become stiff with age. Anything which makes me type even more in RP puts me at a major disadvantage. I know it's just 3 characters, but really why does no one else have to do something like this.	
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I think a few folks have misunderstood my post here;
 
I am not saying we want to "stop RPers bothering others" or imply we want to hide RP away. We want to *protect* RPers from the griefing that many worried about when moving to a PvE ruleset server.
 
That is also why we didn't introduce a global RP Channel as mentioned, as many gave feedback that this simply wouldn't work for RPers (they wanted to use the existing channels) and would still invite griefing.
 
I understand that adding the tag can be frustrating, and hopefully we can work to have a "turn on/off" flag or checkbox for the future. In the interim, addons like Killroy are a great option and offer that functionality (as well as other awesome features that RPers would find useful). Or if somebody wants to create a more basic add-on that simply adds the tag by default, it can be done.
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Rocio made a dramatic Scene in Thayd yesterday. I also played a romantic scene in the
Arborian Gardens.
 
So far so good. The tabs are wonderful. No griefing so far.
 
People not interested in RP are more likely to inhabit "practical areas" Like the auction house or crafting kiosks. RP channel would probably be most useful there.
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Anecdotal but I've had general positive receptions to trying to RP in public. Mostly some people just watching and a few stray OOC comments, which is fine by me, they have as much right to be there as I do. Hopefully that lasts!
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Yeah I uninstalled Killroy because the speech bubbles were misbehaving and it was all a little bit confusing what it was doing and I didn't have time to go digging in the lua.
The big problem I found with Killroy is it uses it's own language and doesn't seem to respect the WS terms which makes it tricky to figure out what it's doing.
A simple /rs /rp or whatever for roleplaying say channel might be nice. I get that {*} means you can type RP text into any window but it's cumbersome to type.
As a result when RP goes into private spaces like housing almost everyone defaults to normal say.
This doesn't sound like a problem but it makes it REALLY hard to get people to use {*} in other places.
 
Also I'm really concerned that analytics will then point to people not roleplaying.... but that's me probably worrying too much.
Though I would be fascinated to dig into how many people use /e command and the correlation to roleplay... mmm sexy Tableau charts.
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