109717-is-drop-3-release-on-schedule-or-was-it-delayed

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I have seen people post that Drop #3 was delayed in order to do more thorough testing and have a cleaner patch.  Is this true and, if so, can someone link me the dev that stated this? So far I have just found speculation but no concrete evidence to prove the rumor true.
 
Thank you.
 
EDIT: Megan Sparks confirmed in an interview during GamesCon that they would like to have The Defile out in the next few months. How long, realistically, that will be is unclear. What this means for all bug fixes, class balancing, rune/attunement systems, is unsure.	
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			I'm kinda hoping they do delay it tbh. Buggy patches don't do anything good for the health of this game.	
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I'm kinda hoping they do delay it tbh. Buggy patches don't do anything good for the health of this game.
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			if they could implement mega-servers or even server merges, that would be 10x better than a drop.	
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Yeah, you saw the Roku dude post it about a hundred times yesterday. I reported every one of those posts, and the mods took them down because he made it up.
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if they could implement mega-servers or even server merges, that would be 10x better than a drop.
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It wasn't Roku I saw;; it was Tenner in the Upcoming Rune System Changes - The Series thread.
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I haven't seen all the solo content so far, and I've been piddling around for a while - so a missed deadline won't hurt me none.
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The idea I believe came from the interview with gamescom that they're probably going to "slow down" on content in order to make sure things are polished...
 
Doesn't necessarily mean Drop 3 or that there is much of a delay if any. However I believe a lot got the idea from this interview on that matter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4boI_FFKGJQ	
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if they could implement mega-servers or even server merges, that would be 10x better than a drop.
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It wasn't Roku I saw;; it was Tenner in the Upcoming Rune System Changes - The Series thread.
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I think megaservers would singlehandedly save this game.
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The idea I believe came from the interview with gamescom that they're probably going to "slow down" on content in order to make sure things are polished...
 
Doesn't necessarily mean Drop 3 or that there is much of a delay if any. However I believe a lot got the idea from this interview on that matter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4boI_FFKGJQ
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Nothing would singlehandedly save this game. Well, nothing short of a mass neurosurgery that installed real world amounts of patience in the heads of the world's gamers.
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I think megaservers would singlehandedly save this game. NCsoft already have another mmo with megaserver tech (GW2) so why they didn't implement it into this game, I'll never know.
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Server Transfers and Server Merges are the only acceptable way to handle population issues.
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			They're  roughly monthly patches so... in about 10 days.	
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			I kind of hope they do drop 3 on time and start with delaying after that.The rune and crafting changes are a pretty big deal as is the CX able to handle more items and drop 2 was like almost literally nothing(the little ninja patch adding runes to gadgets caused more excitement...)and if drop 4 contains the itemization fixes it will be super important to get out quickly as well =_=one stat to rule them all is getting old really fast	
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one stat to rule them all
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			its ok guys the game just came out, drop 1 will fix everything.I know what I said last time but drop 2 will fix everything.Easy fellas drop 3 is going to be what we wanted from the beging.#completefaithincarbine	
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No thanks - crossrealm/megaserver technologies are cool, but they ruin server communities.  Also, if I have to suffer on a lower pop realm with a less than stellar AH/CX supply/demand I'll be damned if I have to then start fighting for rares/resource nodes/daily mobs with people who come from more crowded servers to get easy pickings.  Server Transfers and Server Merges are the only acceptable way to handle population issues.
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I find it funny that people seem to be under some strange impression that everyone will turn into an *cupcake* when they are brought together.
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			It was not about drop 3,but drops in future (whether that includes drop 3 is unknown). It was in the interview for gamecon.	
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It was not about drop 3,but drops in future (whether that includes drop 3 is unknown). It was in the interview for gamecon.
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Actually, if The Defile is drop 3, which is what the PTR shows, then, yes, Megan Sparks, is directly talking about Drop 3.
 
"For example, with The Defile, we put it up on the PTR. We're looking at fixing bugs right now; we're getting feedback from players and our community; and we're looking at areas we can refine and polish before we actually put it out. So we've actually decided, let's work on it until we feel like it's at a really good-quality state. We do know that we want it to come out in the next few months. But instead of saying, 'hey, we've hit this hard deadline; it's going out no matter what," we don't, we're going to take the time to make sure the quality is there too."
 
Followed by a "yes," to the question, "so that's going to be the same for future updates, I'm guessing."
 
Note: removed 'um's, 'uh's, and 'you know's for better fluidity.
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Well then. We have a Dev, someone speaking for Carbine saying defile is getting pushed back. It's not BS.
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I must've missed that.
 
Please know, I'm not saying it is or isn't delayed. Just that as someone who tries to pay attention to what's going on around here, that *I* haven't seen *anyone official* say anything about a delay.
 
It makes me no nevermind. I am with y'all that I'd rather miss a Drop Date and have bugs cleaned up ... but I also know that some of this stuff is as close to "launchable" as it can be, so there's no need to hold it back.
 
I haven't seen all the solo content so far, and I've been piddling around for a while - so a missed deadline won't hurt me none.
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its ok guys the game just came out, drop 1 will fix everything.
 
I know what I said last time but drop 2 will fix everything.
 
Easy fellas drop 3 is going to be what we wanted from the beging.
 
#completefaithincarbine
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Drop #5 for world peace!
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 But to get back on topic, I am disappointed that they won't keep to the monthly schedule since the updates aren't that big. Obviously people don't want something half arsed to hit the servers so that's an aspect which is understandable, but they might want to work 'more' on the updates then, at least I hope they will to bring out more content in some way to compensate.
			
				
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I am disappointed that they won't keep to the monthly schedule since the updates aren't that big.
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			I agree, everything stated by the Devs on Twitter, Twitch, Facebook, Reddit, interviews etc etc - should be gathered by a CRB employee into proper posts and post them here on the forum or even make a special section regarding such information.	
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id assume there is going to be a patch at the end of the month. there are likely 100s of bug fixes that are ready to go.
 
id even assume that defile zone and whatever other pve content will go at the end of the month too. that stuff has likely been in testing for many months by now.
 
things like the socket changes though, need to be thoroughly tested and since they probably only started working on that a month or two ago, it might not be ready.
 
just my 2 cents .. as until there is something official, all we have is conjecture.	
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just my 2 cents .. as until there is something official, all we have is conjecture.
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I would be fine with pushing back drop 3 if they could finally fix the totally *cupcake*ed CX. When you are vendoring most gathered mats and lower tier items, you know the developers have failed at hiring an economics guy. Can we just get a normal searchable AH that doesn't punish you for buying items and doesn't auto list vendor and current buy order/buy now//sell order/sell now prices so the mostly ignorant playerbase doesn't massively undercut and tank the majority of the market like they are right now. How is the CX not priority number one. The economy is important and all but higher end items are worthless.
 
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 But to get back on topic, I am disappointed that they won't keep to the monthly schedule since the updates aren't that big. Obviously people don't want something half arsed to hit the servers so that's an aspect which is understandable, but they might want to work 'more' on the updates then, at least I hope they will to bring out more content in some way to compensate.
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I would be fine with pushing back drop 3 if they could finally fix the totally *cupcake*ed CX. When you are vendoring most gathered mats and lower tier items, you know the developers have failed at hiring an economics guy. Can we just get a normal searchable AH that doesn't punish you for buying items and doesn't auto list vendor and current buy order/buy now//sell order/sell now prices so the mostly ignorant playerbase doesn't massively undercut and tank the majority of the market like they are right now. How is the CX not priority number one. The economy is important and all but higher end items are worthless.
 
 
Wouldn't you rather they delay drop 3 and work tirelessly on fixing all the major bugs or un*cupcake*ing the CX.
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I don't care what they release as long as they fix the pvp gear. 
 
People are getting extremely lethargic for pvp because of 1800 geared people getting pitted against blue gears.	
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I agree, everything stated by the Devs on Twitter, Twitch, Facebook, Reddit, interviews etc etc - should be gathered by a CRB employee into proper posts and post them here on the forum or even make a special section regarding such information.
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That'd be great. Keeping up with so many different sources is not easy or convenient.
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			I find it ironic that that people most opposed to getting involved with social media like twitter and twitch(myself included) have the most to gain from using it, There's been an obvious culture shift in the structure and flow of twitter conversations and interactions to resemble the same loose structure of a forum board, specifically the futaba/4chan/image board style of drive-by posting with popular content persistence. Take this environment, where posts have consequences in the real world, affect major companies and world news organizations, and feelings are more tender than ever, and put in grizzled word-warriors like us into it with the savage posting experience we have & looser moderation than we're used to? Sky's the limit, man.	
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Indeed, not to mention the devs themselves tweet a lot of information that doesn't make it to the forum.
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Yeah that is quite annoying I hate how I have to use social media to find out game info. I want it all collected and presented in one place. That's why I liked MMO-Champion so much on WoW we need someone with the time and know how to do that for us in this game... or for the devs to start using their forums more.
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It's not only that, with twitter etc it's really easy to miss the information, so going looking for it is hardly worth the time. Going through the devs on twitter, we really have other things to do.
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Rikudou, my apologies.
 
If you posted the evidence, then I thank you for that. At the time (what? two days ago now?) I hadn't sat through that broadcast and since you didn't seem to know where you'd seen or heard the information, that kind of made it a rumor at that point.
 
Sorry for being a douche about it, but I think we've all seen our fair share of unfounded rumors snowballing into huge clusterf**ks - all because someone thought it would be funny to spread around a lie. And honestly, when someone says the equivalent of "Well I heard it on the internet somewhere" you kind of have to expect that people are going to be rightfully suspicious.
 
Still, I'm not so sure they were talking about Drop 3 but more about whatever plans they have in total. I've always thought monthly drops were a little unrealistic.
 
Regardless, accept my apologies or not, but I've never been afraid to admit when I was wrong about someone;s intentions.	
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			There is a lot of assuming going on in this thread. By all means, you might end up right, but saying that we have an "official quote" that there will be no patch this month is taking it a bit too far.What we do have is one interview where a nice lady is saying that the defile apparently need some more work on it... thats about it. Just because something is on the PTR does not mean that we are gonna get it next patch. If that was the case, we would already have the protostar dungeon among other things. Just because you have this one quote that the defile needs a bit of work does not mean that you have solved the hidden riddle about that we are not getting a patch in several months.	
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There is a lot of assuming going on in this thread. By all means, you might end up right, but saying that we have an "official quote" that there will be no patch this month is taking it a bit too far.
What we do have is one interview where a nice lady is saying that the defile apparently need some more work on it... thats about it. Just because something is on the PTR does not mean that we are gonna get it next patch. If that was the case, we would already have the protostar dungeon among other things. Just because you have this one quote that the defile needs a bit of work does not mean that you have solved the hidden riddle about that we are not getting a patch in several months.
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Rikudou, my apologies.
 
If you posted the evidence, then I thank you for that. At the time (what? two days ago now?) I hadn't sat through that broadcast and since you didn't seem to know where you'd seen or heard the information, that kind of made it a rumor at that point.
 
Sorry for being a douche about it, but I think we've all seen our fair share of unfounded rumors snowballing into huge clusterf**ks - all because someone thought it would be funny to spread around a lie. And honestly, when someone says the equivalent of "Well I heard it on the internet somewhere" you kind of have to expect that people are going to be rightfully suspicious.
 
Still, I'm not so sure they were talking about Drop 3 but more about whatever plans they have in total. I've always thought monthly drops were a little unrealistic.
 
Regardless, accept my apologies or not, but I've never been afraid to admit when I was wrong about someone;s intentions.
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I accept your apology, thank you for it! I kinda presumed you knew I've been here all the way from the beta since we've crossed posts before and quoted each other/liked posts the other has written. I'm not the type of person that would throw around rumors/false information to get a kick out of it. I don't blame people for being suspicious about it, but I do tend to ignore players that are rude and just jump at another. I posted the vid in a couple of threads, it looks like some moderator has removed it tho(?), which is a bit weird.
 
I'm feeling that the Devs aren't completely straightforward with information these days and I can't put my finger on why they aren't. Not to disappoint people? Being honest and updating players on information they disclose somewhere else would be a better approach for the forums here.
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Yeah, I went and found the clip on my own.
 
And, honestly, I thought you'd crossed over to the dark side. I've seen a lot of "Old G" beta players who used to be staunch supporters turn into jealous girlfriends at the drop of a hat around here. I know you've seen it, too. :lol:
 
Those guys are always so fast to start posting negativity in every thread ... when I saw you going on a spree with that stuff, I was immediately like "OH NO! THEY GOT RIKU, TOO!" ;)
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Drop 3 wont matter if they dont fix the already glaringly bad issues with the game in its current state.
 	
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Still, I'm not so sure they were talking about Drop 3 but more about whatever plans they have in total. I've always thought monthly drops were a little unrealistic.
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It always feels like they get quiet before some big announcement, like the leashes are put on lest someone accidentally reveal to much.  Its especially suspicious that J-Tal had been doing an almost daily posting series about the rune slot changes, but has yet to finish it.
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			I just want the pvp, rune changes and the new arena to come in as drop 3 in a few weeks. Any other pve zone/daily quest zone I can wait 3 months for take your time with that nonsense, but speed up the important stuff. I know you can do it!	
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			I would prefer they do a huge mostly bug free patch, than a smaller monthly buggy patches.	
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Monthly content drops were NEVER going to pan out. Its a sliding scale you can't ever keep up with. They planned 'sixteen' months in advance...even if that had worked (gg on not making it to 3) it would have perpetuated the same change down the line. Bugs would pile up faster than content could be brought on line. It wasn't ever going to happen. Surprised people believed it would, actually.
 
My concern isn't that they can't do it. My concern is that at some point, presumably not that long ago, THEY thought they could do it. Just like they thought the Rune system was good enough for live, PVP was balanced and operational, attunement wouldn't kill off your player base, etc. 
 
I've always been shocked not by what is wrong with the game, but how fundamentally flawed the design of these things was. If the rune system was a good concept but filled to the sky with bugs, I wouldn't be bothered. Bugs go away. 
 
But we sit now after nearly 3 full months of this subscription game and we are staring down unknown estimates on:
 
1) a complete overhaul of the PVP system from gear stats, rating systems and matching systems.
2) a complete overhaul of the rune system from the ground up which is a major component of all around itemization at 50+
3) a significant change to the attunement process (dungeon silvers) while another (world bosses) on the way and 66% reduction in the attunement process for datascape (this process sounded lazy anyway, so good. Scrap the whole thing if you ask me)
 
That's freaking crazy. Two full system rewrites (on major systems, not minor ones) and a massive softening of gates to enter elder game content. In less than 3 months. I honestly don't know if I should applaud their worker bee dedication or walk away from a lack of faith in the decision making process here.
 
Drop 3 shouldn't be called the Defile. It should be called Wildstar: The End of Beta.
 
The entire Wildstar team seems like its in full retreat. 	
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Nothing would singlehandedly save this game. Well, nothing short of a mass neurosurgery that installed real world amounts of patience in the heads of the world's gamers.
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I'm feeling that the Devs aren't completely straightforward with information these days and I can't put my finger on why they aren't. 
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Funny, I just unsubbed yesterday because of the lack of content, and now this?
 
I do understand the reason, the patches where pretty buggy, but damn, there is nothing to do at endgame as a casual player.
 
I done all there is to do what is possible. I cant raid since my guild crashed and burned. Pugging dungeons, well, no thanks. Done adventures to death, dailies stink and did them millions of times in WoW, and PvP/Arena isn't my game.
 
I do love the lore and quests, but we don't get a new zone every month, especially not now. The only reason I wasn't unsubbing was for monthly updates but now that that is out of the window...
 
This hurts and sucks. I have been playing since May 2013 and the game is so much fun. Just, after the initial endgame content, there is nothing else to do.
 
Oh well, it was a good ride while it lasted.
 
Good luck to those in the last wagon still sticking around.	
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Personally I'd like to see Carbine slow up on the release cycle.  We don't need new buggy content every month, we need stable, content rich (which they are) patches that don't introduce new bugs to older systems in the game (which they do!). 
 
An extra week or two on the PTR would allow for the mass testing needed to weed out the bugs that are undercutting the success of each drop.  
 
Just my 2 pence though.	
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			If that means we have to wait said time for the pvp gear changes it will kill the game. Whats left of it anyway.	
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There are a lot of things the dev's just can't talk about due to proprietary information / public trading status. Sucks, but it happens. 
 
 
Call me Naive, but I am under the impression that he hasn't finished updating the post because he's busy actually making the content/ fixes. 
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Personally I'd like to see Carbine slow up on the release cycle.  We don't need new buggy content every month, we need stable, content rich (which they are) patches that don't introduce new bugs to older systems in the game (which they do!). 
 
An extra week or two on the PTR would allow for the mass testing needed to weed out the bugs that are undercutting the success of each drop.  
 
Just my 2 pence though.
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They used to be very informative and it's change which players of course notice. If they keep holding information and just dishing it out when able, everywhere else (YT, interviews, twitter, twich etc), then people will get fed up. Information should be nicely gathered on the official forums.
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I really liked this game.. but day after day after day things keep getting worse and not better. We were told the dev's are listining to us.. well if they are they sure as hell arn't talking to us!? Seriously What The Fawk? Servers are being hammered down by DDOS and nothing is said... The servers are basically empty (argue if you want i don't care they are EMPTY) just try to go lvl up an alt... HUGE zones with 2-3 ppl in them and nothing is said/done
 
If this new drop is going to be months down the road then thats the final nail in the coffin. Personally i will not sub again and i'm sure it will be the last straw for allot of ppl.
 
PLEASE CARBINE PLEASE!!!! GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER!! fanboys can only float you for so long... it's 2014 not 2000
 
oh and... really? no auto spell check? who doesn't have that? and if it is there why is it hidden	
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I really liked this game.. but day after day after day things keep getting worse and not better. We were told the dev's are listining to us.. well if they are they sure as hell arn't talking to us!? Seriously What The Fawk? Servers are being hammered down by DDOS and nothing is said... The servers are basically empty (argue if you want i don't care they are EMPTY) just try to go lvl up an alt... HUGE zones with 2-3 ppl in them and nothing is said/done
 
If this new drop is going to be months down the road then thats the final nail in the coffin. Personally i will not sub again and i'm sure it will be the last straw for allot of ppl.
 
PLEASE CARBINE PLEASE!!!! GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER!! fanboys can only float you for so long... it's 2014 not 2000
 
oh and... really? no auto spell check? who doesn't have that? and if it is there why is it hidden
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			Hmm. I can understand wanting to slow down a little bit to ensure quality. But going from "one month" to "a few months" is pretty disappointing.	
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I do understand the reason, the patches where pretty buggy, but damn, there is nothing to do at endgame as a casual player.
 
I done all there is to do what is possible. I cant raid since my guild crashed and burned. Pugging dungeons, well, no thanks. Done adventures to death, dailies stink and did them millions of times in WoW, and PvP/Arena isn't my game.
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Didnt see anyone else link this yet but now its official, for the next content patch and the rest going forward.
 
http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/08/21/gamescom-2014-wildstar-abandons-monthly-update-pace/	
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Didnt see anyone else link this yet but now its official, for the next content patch and the rest going forward.
 
http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/08/21/gamescom-2014-wildstar-abandons-monthly-update-pace/
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