113268-why-is-performance-not-improving

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Why do they never ever improve performance on any weekly updates or drops
 
is it set in stone that this is how it will perform for some year or so?	
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			What do you mean performance?  Everything seems to be working fine for me and everyone I play with.  ???	
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			they can only improve performance so much, there comes a point where your computer is the one holding game performance back. just because the game has a cartoony art style does not mean it can not be graphically complex(which wildstar is)if you have poor performance because you bought amd processor/graphics.... i dont feel sorry. it has been known for the last 6-7 years that if you want to play video games, get intel/nvidia combo.	
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No, I totaly agree with OP. This games optimization is balls. Stop being fanboy you 2
Ive Nvdia geforce GTX 670 MX i7-3630 cpu 2.40ghz 64bit 16.gb ram with ssd, this game never goes up +30fps even in medium or low settings in some matter
And I play all other mmos and games at ultra without having my fps below 50 even in crowd. 
It was better at start, it just gone worse, I had 40fps in illum before last patches. now 20, and there is not even a crowd (my server is dead)
Even sometimes my computer freezes at some points of illum. Just lol never seen something like this. Like if it is realy good graphics or smth. Just bad optimization.	
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never mind
 
mod can delete this topic whiteknights like pr0zach and guymn are just to annoying	
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No, I totaly agree with OP. This games optimization is balls. Stop being fanboy you 2
Ive Nvdia geforce GTX 670 MX i7-3630 cpu 2.40ghz 64bit 16.gb ram with ssd, this game never goes up +30fps even in medium or low settings in some matter
And I play all other mmos and games at ultra without having my fps below 50 even in crowd. 
It was better at start, it just gone worse, I had 40fps in illum before last patches. now 20, and there is not even a crowd (my server is dead)
Even sometimes my computer freezes at some points of illum. Just lol never seen something like this. Like if it is realy good graphics or smth. Just bad optimization.
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No, I totaly agree with OP. This games optimization is balls. Stop being fanboy you 2
Ive Nvdia geforce GTX 670 MX i7-3630 cpu 2.40ghz 64bit 16.gb ram with ssd, this game never goes up +30fps even in medium or low settings in some matter
And I play all other mmos and games at ultra without having my fps below 50 even in crowd. 
It was better at start, it just gone worse, I had 40fps in illum before last patches. now 20, and there is not even a crowd (my server is dead)
Even sometimes my computer freezes at some points of illum. Just lol never seen something like this. Like if it is realy good graphics or smth. Just bad optimization.
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I gave this thread a shiny new title that states the question for easy finding. Carry on.
 
~Team WildStar	
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			Chua would like to know system using then, cause running WildStar on i5 with GTX 760, and game running without problems.	
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Chua would like to know system using then, cause running WildStar on i5 with GTX 760, and game running without problems.
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			I'm pretty sure there is optimisation problem, but not enough to make your setup going from 20fps to 60. Maybe theres a 10fps improvement possible, after like 1 year of optimisation. Gaining FPS with re-disigning is pretty long. Because you have to dig into the basic math of the game, that are contains in the game engine. Not sure what engine they use or if they have a proprietary engine, but I do see improvement coming along the pipes, but slowly and to gain a 1frame here and there.	
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No, I totaly agree with OP. This games optimization is balls. Stop being fanboy you 2
Ive Nvdia geforce GTX 670 MX i7-3630 cpu 2.40ghz 64bit 16.gb ram with ssd, this game never goes up +30fps even in medium or low settings in some matter
And I play all other mmos and games at ultra without having my fps below 50 even in crowd. 
It was better at start, it just gone worse, I had 40fps in illum before last patches. now 20, and there is not even a crowd (my server is dead)
Even sometimes my computer freezes at some points of illum. Just lol never seen something like this. Like if it is realy good graphics or smth. Just bad optimization.
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 running game on 5200rpm drive,
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Your loading times must be nightmarish though. With all that other good hardware, please do yourself a favor and go SSD. You can obviously afford it!  :blink:
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No, I totaly agree with OP. This games optimization is balls. Stop being fanboy you 2
Ive Nvdia geforce GTX 670 MX i7-3630 cpu 2.40ghz 64bit 16.gb ram with ssd, this game never goes up +30fps even in medium or low settings in some matter
And I play all other mmos and games at ultra without having my fps below 50 even in crowd. 
It was better at start, it just gone worse, I had 40fps in illum before last patches. now 20, and there is not even a crowd (my server is dead)
Even sometimes my computer freezes at some points of illum. Just lol never seen something like this. Like if it is realy good graphics or smth. Just bad optimization.
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Or at least a 7200-10000 RPM or something.
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lol I was troubleshooting an fps issue initially, then after I figured out the issue. I never moved it back to my 7200rpm drive after figuring out what was wrong with my machine. Its not that aweful, just the first time I zone to thayd it takes forver.
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Just be glad you're not running an AMD machine like I am.
 
AMD A8-5500 (3.2 GHz), ASUS OC'd AMD Radeon HD7750, 8GB RAM -- ran WoW on ultra and never went below 30 in 40 man raids. This game? I average 30, and drop to 10 in Thayd, and a slide show near the AH.
 
I really wish AMD would stop humping their wallet and just optimize. >.>	
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			Oh look more people making unrealistic complaints because they have no earthly idea what programming entails, typically when it's a hardware issue on their side.	
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Just be glad you're not running an AMD machine like I am.
 
AMD A8-5500 (3.2 GHz), ASUS OC'd AMD Radeon HD7750, 8GB RAM -- ran WoW on ultra and never went below 30 in 40 man raids. This game? I average 30, and drop to 10 in Thayd, and a slide show near the AH.
 
I really wish AMD would stop humping their wallet and just optimize. >.>
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Oh look more people making unrealistic complaints because they have no earthly idea what programming entails, typically when it's a hardware issue on their side.
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			honestly though untalented coders	
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			chua recommend 14.7 RC3 Beta's for AMD cards if you don't have 'em already...and agree i dropped my 7750 for R7 260X (500 or less pipelines isnt enough for this game)...more on die cache = better gaming perf not the number of cores you have...until DX12 ;)	
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chua recommend 14.7 RC3 Beta's for AMD cards if you don't have 'em already...and agree i dropped my 7750 for R7 260X (500 or less pipelines isnt enough for this game)...more on die cache = better gaming perf not the number of cores you have...until DX12 ;)
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			...its not your gpu...its not your cpu...its windows.... :blink:	
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I still think I'm using 2 or 3 updates old drivers.   Just because they're new does nto mean they are better,  especially with AMD :P
 
I'll try out RC3 if it's compatible.  Haven't looked yet.
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...its not your gpu...its not your cpu...its windows.... :blink:
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See  haven't looked into it :P  also which windows?  Because I don't have the  hello kitty windows 8.   I has a real OS :P
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I tried to help my mom with something on her windows 8 it made me want to puke. Just the navigation itself was completely different and I say very unintuitive compared to say windows 7.
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			i mean go read about dx12 and what it can do with todays hardware and version of windows and then ya go hmmmm...those numbers they are boasting are quite incredible...that was with Intel graphics as well...	
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			DX12 is not yet available in any form	
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i mean go read about dx12 and what it can do with todays hardware and version of windows and then ya go hmmmm...those numbers they are boasting are quite incredible...that was with Intel graphics as well...
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Oh look more people making unrealistic complaints because they have no earthly idea what programming entails, typically when it's a hardware issue on their side.
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Said stuff I deleted stuff to save space.
 
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I havent even posted in this thread yet, but you seem confident so I am going to request your help
 
I run a Intel i7-4770k, Nvidia GTX 645, game runs on 120gb SSD, 3.50ghz , pretty decent rig, would you say im suppose to be at about 60-70 fps right? (Because I run 70-110 fps on GW2 full max settings) 
 
Now.. I only get 18-25 in thayd.. and 25-40 average in world or dungeons... and then randomly in some RANDOM small part of dailies zones I get like 60-70... 
 
Iv tried absolutely every trouble shooting on the forums, google, reddit, everywhere.. I cant seem to fix my FPS.. Iv tried disabling core 0, no change, iv tried clearing roaming, no change, iv tried turning down all settings, very very slight small small change... disabling addons and all that jazz.. absolutely everything you can think of.. I think overclocked my video card, which was not the issue either.. still remained 18-25 in thayd, and 25-40 average... on MEDIUM settings.... updated all my drivers etc
 
Please let me know what I am doing wrong, because currently I am FORCED to believe its the games optimization right now considering I run 70-110 IN COMBAT on GW2... which seems to me like its alot more graphically intense.. 
 
If I am missing something, Id be eternally grateful if you pointed it out and helped me fix my issue
 
 
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I'm not really that knowledgeable I just know that coding is far more difficult than most people claim it is and I'm trying to remind people to not make assumptions about things they really don't understand.
 
I can take a small stab at it though. you said on medium settings? Less aa and such, or possibly no aa and less draw distance? As I understand shadows are always the first thing to mess up performance but I think you know that already. Mine isn't the best ether. I have messed with it enough to get 60 in some places but I'm using a GTX 760. It mostly seems to go from the 40-60s.
 
MMOs for one have a lot of data to go through so they will pretty much never run as good as single player games even if they aren't nearly as graphically intensive. You probably have a better CPU than me for instance unless it's an older i7.
 
 
I don't have the best time keeping stable 60 on most games with the graphics the way I want them. I see to get functions of anywhere from 35/40-70+ sometimes. I wonder how anyone ever manages to not dip below 60. I have bad eyesight though so I probably can't easily tell fluctuations in framerate as readily as someone with good eyesight.
 
This is probably not the best optimized game out there, or possibly even the best optimized mmo out there, but I want people to appreciate that doing this stuff is far more difficult and time-consuming than they think it is.
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No, I totaly agree with OP. This games optimization is balls. Stop being fanboy you 2
Ive Nvdia geforce GTX 670 MX i7-3630 cpu 2.40ghz 64bit 16.gb ram with ssd, this game never goes up +30fps even in medium or low settings in some matter
And I play all other mmos and games at ultra without having my fps below 50 even in crowd. 
It was better at start, it just gone worse, I had 40fps in illum before last patches. now 20, and there is not even a crowd (my server is dead)
Even sometimes my computer freezes at some points of illum. Just lol never seen something like this. Like if it is realy good graphics or smth. Just bad optimization.
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AMD user here. FX 8320, r9 270x GPU, 8gig ram, windows 8.1 I regularly drop below 10 FPS in thayd running near the AH. My GF cant even go to Thayd because her computer times out before she loads up and gives her a connection closed error.
 
There's also something wrong when there are large amounts of people on your screen. In 40v40's in r12 or scorch I can be at around 15 FPS at around 60 ms and swing and totally miss people. Everyone looks like they're moving smoothly, dodging telegraphs etc... but I just don't hit anyone. I'm not the only one who gets this and I've never played a game that had such an issue when there was no appearance of lag just a lot of stuff going on screen.	
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Hey everybody. 
 
I'm going to go ahead and direct everyone with optimization complaints to this pinned thread - https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/42544-client-optimization/.
 
It makes it much easier to gather data on the issues people are seeing if it's all in one place. And also even better still if you post your system specs.	
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