Report 276

Report #276
Skillset: Wicca Skill: Toadcurse
 Org: Shadowdancers Status: Completed Oct 2009
Furies' Decision:
Solution 1
Problem: As it stands, Toadcurse is an 8p ability that functions in a manner to
transmogrify an enemy with half of their maximum mana into a toad. The side
effect, as all of us probably know, causes the victim to lose all of their
defenses, limits their actions to only hopping and ribbiting, and leaves them
open to STOMP TOAD which is how most Wiccans base their kills off of. The main
issue currently stems from group combat, where lesser individuals have triggered
KISS TOAD as a response to toadcurse, thus leaving an 8p ability completely
useless. Another issue stems from the fact that people have been Divinefiring
and then using KISS TOAD and then immediately reverting to their original form
due to Divinefire should the kiss backfire.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #1: Add a noticable requirement and usage of balance when
 an individual attempts to KISS TOAD. Both on failure
 and success of the kiss.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #2: Remove the KISS TOAD function entirely as it is
 rarely used as it stands, and is a rather imbalancing
 counter effect to an 8p skill. This solves both the
 Divinefire and current KISS TOAD issue.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #3:
Player Comments:
---[Llandros on 10/6 @ 15:35 writes]:
With shifting alliances the days of indiscriminant toad kissing will come to an
end. Its my understanding that kissing a toad has a 50% chance of turning you
into a toad. Thats a pretty big disincentive in my opinion especially since
stomp toad isnt targeted. Would simply changing divine fire to not cure toad
curse be an option?
---[Nienla on 10/6 @ 22:57 writes]:
Not completely, the issue is Divinefire as well as the fact that smaller people
in groups are triggering kiss toad to cure the larger individuals in groups, who
then escape.
---[Xenthos on 10/6 @ 23:16 writes]:
By the way, there's not and never was a need for "indiscriminate toad kissing,"
Llandros. It was just an issue of certain people being lazy and not checking an
ally/enemy list prior to the kiss. Along with the person who was toadcursed
triggering to kiss the person who kissed them, etc, spamming it back and forth
until it works. I see no need to remove the kiss feature, but making it
require/consume balance is a good idea (I mean, hey all, I'm off-balance from
swinging my weapons around, leaping in the air, etc! But I'm going to lean over
and kiss some tiny toad on the ground!)
---[Aiyana on 10/7 @ 20:33 writes]:
I believe KISS TOAD should consume balance upon doing, similar to the way the
SMILE emote cures disloyalty and takes balance with the skill Charismaticsmile
in Influence. As a side note, the Divinefire issue can be solved by simply
making KISS TOAD not possible while Divinefired. Afterall, would you really want
to burn your friends to a crisp while trying to help?
---[Romero on 10/9 @ 16:03 writes]:
Agreed. Toad kissing should require balance and eq like smile for Influence.
---[Ilyarin on 10/10 @ 13:10 writes]:
I like the concept of KISS TOAD, so I'm against solution 2 as it stands at the
moment. I would be okay with it requiring balance and eq, and consuming a second
or two of balance. The fact that the kisser might turn into a toad is a fair
disincentive for those sorts of triggers (since they then lose all defs too).
---[Mirami on 10/10 @ 15:54 writes]:
Solution 1 looks good.
---[Akui on 10/11 @ 03:14 writes]:
Agree with 1, and either a block on kissing in DF, or making it drop DF on kiss.
---[Nienla on 10/13 @ 22:30 writes]:
I disagree with Sarrasri's comments. I seriously doubt you're going to die in a
six second balance loss, especially when you can also burrow around for eyes.
---[Nienla on 10/13 @ 22:31 writes]:
Miscomment. Ignore the above
---[Krellan on 10/14 @ 21:47 writes]:
Divinefire is the smallest issue here. The biggest problem is that it is an
emote and thus requires nor consumes any balance or equilibrium. It could be a
95% chance to turn you into a toad and it would still not matter because two
people can go back and forth and spam kiss toad as the -Curing- part of
toadcurse is 100%. This ensures that eventually you will both be untoaded.
---[Meir on 10/15 @ 04:41 writes]:
I would support solution 1, given the balance time is not obscene.
---[Ceren on 10/15 @ 15:11 writes]:
Agree with solution 1 for the reasons already stated.
---[Desitrus on 10/19 @ 17:58 writes]:
Agree with S1.