128456-in-need-of-a-real-discussion

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As the thread states, id like to ask the opinions of the community; though it may seem like im shooting myself in the foot asking for such opinions...   I am writing this because of the consistent verbal and emotional abuse that is happening within the game on the "Exile" side of the "Entity" server.  I have made very few friends on my way to 50, and most of it has been through housing.  However in the time since I hit 50, the people who has played since Beta (i played in CBT but stopped for a year due to personal reasons) expect perfection and everyone to know the gear requirements.  I played WOW and other MMORPGs before including rift/tera in the beta stages as well..  The community overall just seems a bit stale and like a friend and I were discussing in game.. many of the helpful players seemed to have left Nexus and pursued other universes.
 
While some of you may say "suck it up" or "dont be sucking so hard" or any of the other elitest comments, I want everyone to realize that despite who you may be talking to in game; we are all human beings and we do have feelings.  I feel that the WS community is comprising of people between 16-28+ but their brains are that of a 10 year old.  While this doesnt encompass the kind hearted people who has helped me in the times that I need them and they listen and give constructive feedback,  I feel that perhaps the cyberbullying of today's society has set the stage for these teenagers and bitter adults to try and take it out on the rest of us.  I am 31 and work FT and have a busy life and I absolutely love the game, but I would like to be attuned before the next century, I am certainly someone who is subjected to the bullying on an everday basis and I am speaking also in part for those who are too afraid to reach out and say something.  
 
So with this out the way I want to start a real discussion, and ask a few questions of my own ...  This thread isnt for trolls, it is meant for individuals with actual intellegence and compassion TY, leave all drama at the door!.
 
So for my questions...
 
1) I keep getting bullied along the terms for gear, I am a DPS medic and yes while regretfully im following the guide listed by a community member; I am also trying to follow the Tech, Moxie, Grit, Brutality, Insight  at least from what I am gathering.  I also have bought substancial credd in the last few weeks trying to get better gear and farm when I can.  I am doing well in PvE but for dungeons i am getting all the douchebags who disband from the start and maybe occasionally ill get a group to run a full dungeon.  ... So...  My question is how can anyone get better gear if no one is really there to teach and where to focus on?  I have yet to be invited to a guild or even feel apart of an actual community here. 
 
2) Attunement: Why is it that no one really teaches anyone the process or even attempts to lend a hand, a year has gone by and the cliques still remain...  Tells/say go ignored and the mindless dribble of banging their girlfriend is the topic on most talk servers, and in thyad.  Is this WOW all over again...  Are the pweens taking over nexus?  I spent too much money in this game to just pack up and quit; How can one truly sift through the mud and not lose their morals in the process with all this garbage going on?
id love to actually learn a thing or two from someone who is willing...
 
 
These are just a few concerns/questions I have because honestly, I feel that mentally the community is doing nothing but damaging the psyche of those of us who just want to belong.  Nexus is supposed to be a fresh start away from the drama but it keeps lingering with every player who decides to flat out abuse others.  Carbine or NCsoft needs to truly stop this cycle of hatred players have towards others not in their cliques...
 
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Forgive me for saying it, but you don't sound like you want a discussion. Lumping everyone who has been playing a long time into the same boat means the ones who don't act like that are less willing to help you.That being said, there are two simple tips for having a better experience: Find a guild willing to teach stuff, and join a grouping channel (I think it's called lfg on the Exile side for Entity) and pre-form some or all of your group with people also in need of practice and/or people willing to teach.When you just jump into the queue, you're rolling the dice. A significant number of people are just there to complete quests or contracts, but trying to say they're representative of all or even most of the playerbase is just asking to tick people off. 
 
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			Roll Dominion. I have never personally witnessed any of that and have seen plenty of people willing to help and answer questions. I don't normally run dungeons so I can't really comment on that aspect, but I do know the global chat and Illium, while occasionally drifting into silly/immature, is mostly an enjoyable experience.	
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As the thread states, id like to ask the opinions of the community; though it may seem like im shooting myself in the foot asking for such opinions...   I am writing this because of the consistent verbal and emotional abuse that is happening within the game on the "Exile" side of the "Entity" server.  I have made very few friends on my way to 50, and most of it has been through housing.  However in the time since I hit 50, the people who has played since Beta (i played in CBT but stopped for a year due to personal reasons) expect perfection and everyone to know the gear requirements.  I played WOW and other MMORPGs before including rift/tera in the beta stages as well..  The community overall just seems a bit stale and like a friend and I were discussing in game.. many of the helpful players seemed to have left Nexus and pursued other universes.
 
While some of you may say "suck it up" or "dont be sucking so hard" or any of the other elitest comments, I want everyone to realize that despite who you may be talking to in game; we are all human beings and we do have feelings.  I feel that the WS community is comprising of people between 16-28+ but their brains are that of a 10 year old.  While this doesnt encompass the kind hearted people who has helped me in the times that I need them and they listen and give constructive feedback,  I feel that perhaps the cyberbullying of today's society has set the stage for these teenagers and bitter adults to try and take it out on the rest of us.  I am 31 and work FT and have a busy life and I absolutely love the game, but I would like to be attuned before the next century, I am certainly someone who is subjected to the bullying on an everday basis and I am speaking also in part for those who are too afraid to reach out and say something.  
 
So with this out the way I want to start a real discussion, and ask a few questions of my own ...  This thread isnt for trolls, it is meant for individuals with actual intellegence and compassion TY, leave all drama at the door!.
 
So for my questions...
 
1) I keep getting bullied along the terms for gear, I am a DPS medic and yes while regretfully im following the guide listed by a community member; I am also trying to follow the Tech, Moxie, Grit, Brutality, Insight  at least from what I am gathering.  I also have bought substancial credd in the last few weeks trying to get better gear and farm when I can.  I am doing well in PvE but for dungeons i am getting all the douchebags who disband from the start and maybe occasionally ill get a group to run a full dungeon.  ... So...  My question is how can anyone get better gear if no one is really there to teach and where to focus on?  I have yet to be invited to a guild or even feel apart of an actual community here. 
 
2) Attunement: Why is it that no one really teaches anyone the process or even attempts to lend a hand, a year has gone by and the cliques still remain...  Tells/say go ignored and the mindless dribble of banging their girlfriend is the topic on most talk servers, and in thyad.  Is this WOW all over again...  Are the pweens taking over nexus?  I spent too much money in this game to just pack up and quit; How can one truly sift through the mud and not lose their morals in the process with all this garbage going on?
id love to actually learn a thing or two from someone who is willing...
 
 
These are just a few concerns/questions I have because honestly, I feel that mentally the community is doing nothing but damaging the psyche of those of us who just want to belong.  Nexus is supposed to be a fresh start away from the drama but it keeps lingering with every player who decides to flat out abuse others.  Carbine or NCsoft needs to truly stop this cycle of hatred players have towards others not in their cliques...
 
So let the discussion begin
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"cough cough" no idea what you are talking about OP, bullying? making new/returning players feel real small?
 
I could have been in you Dungeon run dude or it was just another player getting hammered about (gear/rotation/skill). Dudes were crapping on some medic's skills. Sure enough they were trying to offer suggestion about what would be better to use but it was a pretty brutal way they did it. Laced, more like with a main course of ridicule.
 
Its hard to over come OP, to go F2P meant the population is at its lowest point, meaning the players whom have stayed are the distillation of the supreme who could over come the Dungeons and excel at raiding. Its well documented that many a non raiders left, no progression and what nots forced their hands to the un-sub button. To now ask these players to deal with the noobness of the new/returning players is a quick shift away from the status que. Its a normal reaction from a playerbase of this type.
 
I have faith that this inbalance is a short lived event that will soon be a distance memory of (remember just b4 f2p launch) The population of long term'ers is low enough that any decent influx of "us" will overwhelm "them" and que's will be full of players wanting to learn/wipe/experience. There are no doubt some other planned changes in the works to help this shift to a more 'casual' stye of f2p aspects with contacts just being the start of a lengthy shift away from HARDCORE RAIDING.	
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All MMOs have a problem with elitists and sadly this game has a few more than most because of the way it has been developed / marketed and the way the community has polarised since launch.
 
Part of the attunement process is getting attuned to the elitists :) If you really don't want to deal with them, there's not much point getting attuned because this game doesn't have casual raiding. At least not yet ...... 
 
I would suggest not looking at dungeons or even adventures as a way of gearing up. By all means run them if you wish, especially if you can find a friendly and patient guild. But there's far less painful ways to get some decent gear.
 
1) Contracts. There's some very nice rewards as you progress through the contracts system, culminating in a random piece of raid level gear tuned to your class and build. My DPS medic just got some level 65 resonators from the loot bag you get when you reach 5000 points. Very nice.
 
2) Veteran Shiphands. You can use the vendor items as starter endgame gear and the shiphands themselves often drop some nice purple items as random drops.
 
3) Daily zones. It takes a while to get to Beloved with the various factions. But there's some nice gear you can pick up when you do, plus extra AMP and ability points.
 
Make sure to rune everything up once you get some decent items worth spending the cost of runecrafting on.
 
As for builds, there's some very useful advice here and here which I've found invaluable for my dps medic.
 
Final bit of advice I would give is just stay away from the drama. Taking on the elitists is a battle you'll never win. Find some like-minded players and have some fun. When F2P arrives who know how the game will change, for the better or the worse it's hard to tell at this point.	
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the progression is vet shiphands<vet adventures (WotW, MGT, Crimelords, Siege)< vet bay of betrayal, regular SSM< vet dungeons tier 1 (KV, STL, SC) < vet dungeons tier 2 (SSM, protogames)< GA
 
if you dont have a guild that help you dont try to jump over one of the steps because it kinda prepares you for the next one.
 
the best way to approach content will be getting friends, try to join a friendly guild, one thats ok with the fact that you are new to the game and willing to help, you will be surprised but most people is kinda nice if you are honest about not knowing ( /i hi all im new at this dungeon, so if anyone can explain it will be gratefull, i hope ill do my best :) ) it helps a lot.the thing is lone wolves in mmos are characterized for a thing, they can pull their own weight and act by themselves, if you are good enough and have experience you can be a lone wolf, but if you cant it will be hard to be a soloer.on the other hand  players like me look for strength in being united with another like minded, dont matter if you arent the edge hardcore raider, you progress at the same time and learn with your group.
 
pd: also, you must take your advice cause your post its the only one with drama, be nice and people will be nice
			
				
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			I'm sorry you had to tolerate this kind of crap OP.  In a game we're all supposed to be playing for fun and stress relief.	
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I'm sorry you're seeing this mate.  I hit level 39 tonight and have had nothing but good experiences with folks all the way through the leveling process so far.  Lots of support and friendly folks on the forums, etc.
 
I'm getting close to the time of finding a more solid guild to join to gear up, etc.  The thing about how Wildstar is developed, you really can't just go straight into the later content like you could in CoH, WoW, etc.  You've got to do the progression and the lower content at end game to get into the raiding scene.  The core of the players you're running into are the ones that were sick of Blizzard and other companies placating to the demands of people who wanted to jump straight into raiding the second they dinged at cap.  This game has a progression, and a darn fine one at that.
 
I don't know if you played Classic WoW, but you have to think progression wise like this:
 
 
World quests (Dailies in Wildstar) -> Lower tier dungeons (V-Shiphands in Wildstar)-> Upper tier dungeons (V-Adventures in Wildstar) -> Starter 10/15 man raids  (V-5 mans in Wildstar) -> Basic 20 man raids (Grim Vault I think?) -> Core raiding (Datascape?)  [Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how I'm understanding it as a newer player.]	
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OP, it's a shame you've encountered this. Please understand, not all players are like this. No one should be abusive toward others for any reason. I've really only experienced it a handful of times in this game, though.
 
The best thing is going to be to find a guild- there are plenty of guild recruiting who will help with attunment. We just finished attuning one of our new members tonight, in fact. Go to he Entity board and post in the recruitment side. Or you can even check out my guild (link below).
 
I enjoy teaching the dungeons, so no matter where you end up, feel free to give me a holler if you see me in game and I can put some runs together in a safe environment.	
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World quests (Dailies in Wildstar) -> Lower tier dungeons (V-Shiphands in Wildstar)-> Upper tier dungeons (V-Adventures in Wildstar) -> Starter 10/15 man raids  (V-5 mans in Wildstar) -> Basic 20 man raids (Grim Vault I think?) -> Core raiding (Datascape?)  [Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how I'm understanding it as a newer player.]
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World quests (Dailies in Wildstar) -> Lower tier dungeons (V-Shiphands in Wildstar)-> Upper tier dungeons (V-Adventures in Wildstar) -> Starter 10/15 man raids  (V-5 mans in Wildstar) -> Basic 20 man raids (Grim Vault I think?) -> Core raiding (Datascape?)  [Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how I'm understanding it as a newer player.]
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Would just like to mention this is not unique an experience to either side. No matter where you go on the internet, people will be assholes unfortunately. That said, I know SO MANY great guilds on Exile side, and I am discovering plenty Dominion side as my guild creates a presence on the red faction.
 
Otherwise, I'd just echo what everyone else has said - find a guild, or ask one of these lovely people for help.	
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In regards to your question about attunement, there are tons of guides out there; in the forums, on third-party websites, on the reddit, all of which come up with a quick Google/forum search. The entire process hasn't changed much since launch aside from some of the requirements being lowered, and the in-game description for each step is pretty self-explanatory already, so I'm not exactly sure what else you want.
 
As far as being ridiculed for your gear, I have to wonder what else is happening there that you're not telling us. No matter how bad someone's DPS is in a dungeon/adventure, I've never felt the need to point it out to them or check their gear unless they are doing ALL of the following:
 1) dying all the time to everything
 2) not interrupting
 3) doing less DPS than the tank
 4) repeating those same behaviors over and over again with no sign of understanding or improvement
 5) (optional) if tanking or healing, completely failing to hold aggro or heal through standard unavoidable damage
If you meet all of those criteria, then yes, you'll likely get checked out and chewed out because you're not pulling your weight. This entire conversation can be avoided if you simply say "hey guys, I'm new here, pointers appreciated." You'd be surprised how willing the average LFG pug is to help.
 
The first step to being a good player is being willing to help yourself. If all you're ever doing is asking in /z chat and not searching the forums, reddit, and other resources like Jabbithole for the relevant information, then I'm sorry, but it's not anyone else's fault that you're suffering. Literally all of the problems you're having (gearing process, optimal builds/rotations, attunement steps) have been addressed hundreds of times over in the forums. There are over ten topics a week just here in General asking about what to do when you get to level 50. 
 
While I go out of my way to answer questions on the forums and in-game if anyone needs help, I (and many others) don't feel the desire to spoon-feed you all the answers one by one in the exact way that YOU deem acceptable.
 
Guess I'm just an elitist though, right?	
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 From the other players posts I have gotten some direction and some hope that this game isnt littered with the garbage of people who think they have a right to refuse service to people who are looking for it..
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Roll Dominion. I have never personally witnessed any of that and have seen plenty of people willing to help and answer questions. I don't normally run dungeons so I can't really comment on that aspect, but I do know the global chat and Illium, while occasionally drifting into silly/immature, is mostly an enjoyable experience.
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The Raiders and a small group of Roleplayers are what sticked around when the PvP'ers were the first to jump ship as well as the people who had problems with the initial difficulty level of the game.
And yes, the average age of the WildStar player is older then most MMO's.
Almost all the people I know and play with are 25-40 years old.
 
However, aggression and abuse is simply wrong.
Whatever the reason, it should be avoided.
Then again, I've only heard one side of the story here. I'm interested in hearing the other side as well, as there's always 2 sides to the same story.
 
 
 
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Honestly, yes;  because gaming should be fun without the ridicule.  From the other players posts I have gotten some direction and some hope that this game isnt littered with the garbage of people who think they have a right to refuse service to people who are looking for it.. I can look at resources and not /z all day long ( which i do) however some of us have motor skill issues or things beyond your control.  Yet you sit here like that woman who refused flowers for a gay wedding and I will go there because you know what...  Its not right... its downright biggotry what your doing...  Id sooner be dominion and get respectful approaches than watch you slam my performance when you dont know or attempt to see how hard i actually have been trying these last few months...  so you know what...  Back off ... Respect is the only language i speak
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I (and many others) don't feel the desire to spoon-feed you all the answers one by one in the exact way that YOU deem acceptable.
 
 
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Except you're not showing any respect in your answer or attitude.
Everyone one of us had to go through this attunement and solve the problems thrown at us.
Believe me, you guys have it easy with all changes that came to the game in the past year. We had to deal with silver runs in dungeons and bugged bosses for months.
So please respect us for having to deal with your lazyness of not willing to go through a few small hoops that can be done in a single day.
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first, to join a guild
 
1- join global channel, on entity exile is LFG, to join is /chjoin lfg2. type "/1 new player looking for friendly guild"
3. choose 1 from the shower of invites you will get4. talk in guild chat and make some friends, tell a joke, try to start a conversation
5. profit
 
second, really dude chill out, the more rude  guy in here is you, so you need to calm a littlethird. Some of us are trying to help you but as you see we already have done the guides and answered the questions before so the info is there you have to look for it a little. About dungeons these  guides are mine check them out to learn how to deal with this content Skullcano https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MPHtAxjsi8
 
Kel voreth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBkX6LD4OLslike this there is ton of stuff, or just learn with trial and error with some friendsFor better results make a premade to learn content, its better to run with people you know and with the same mind and goals
			
				
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first, to join a guild
 
1- join global channel, on entity exile is LFG, to join is /chjoin lfg
2. type "/1 new player looking for friendly guild"
3. choose 1 from the shower of invites you will get
4. talk in guild chat and make some friends, tell a joke, try to start a conversation
5. profit
 
second, really dude chill out, the more rude  guy in here is you, so you need to calm a little
 
third. Some of us are trying to help you but as you see we already have done the guides and answered the questions before so the info is there you have to look for it a little. About dungeons these  guides are mine check them out to learn how to deal with this content 
 
Skullcano https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MPHtAxjsi8
 
Kel voreth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBkX6LD4OLs
 
like this there is ton of stuff, or just learn with trial and error with some friends
 
For better results make a premade to learn content, its better to run with people you know and with the same mind and goals
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Demon, this actually helps quite a bit i am not getting upset with what you or the others  (Who actually helped) had to say, I actually am looking over this content and yea skullcano is my greatest enemy; I can do  Vet. Kel wthout much an issue now ...  Aside from that the Ulitmate protogames dungeon is another story.  I just dont like the whole " we will help you, only if you help yourself" I have been 49  levels doing the research and yea i neglected some shiphands/adventures because of the lack of player involvement. I  just now was made aware of the /chjoin lfg feature,  I dont post on boards very often because of the biggotry and the cyber bullying that goes on, so yea my main post was because I was quite upset with the community because I felt like all they cared about was results vs. getting to know the actual people.  I care about others to be honest, and i see myself as being selfless; others who know me in real life see this as well, so when in a game i go to the boards its becuase I have no other choice.  Do I have trust issues with a virtual community in which im in a genre where people tend to cut your head off first then ask questions, or the fact of being accused of being an ignorant retard before realizing i have an alturistic side to me...  From my experience MMORPGs lack the "compassion and understanding" that it used to have.  Its a shame but yes ideally i hope this post wakes people up and sets the stage for some real action you know...  You and the few others who gave me good guides and suggestions... I am doing what I can...  However all i can do is research and hope that someone sees this for more than a "pity" post but rather the fact that we as players must not forget we are not talking to machines,  perhaps i am asking too much for a unified community rather than one based on biggotry and hatred of people who need that little bit extra.  but i digress.
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Demon, this actually helps quite a bit i am not getting upset with what you or the others  (Who actually helped) had to say, I actually am looking over this content and yea skullcano is my greatest enemy; I can do  Vet. Kel wthout much an issue now ...  Aside from that the Ulitmate protogames dungeon is another story.  I just dont like the whole " we will help you, only if you help yourself" I have been 49  levels doing the research and yea i neglected some shiphands/adventures because of the lack of player involvement. I  just now was made aware of the /chjoin lfg feature,  I dont post on boards very often because of the biggotry and the cyber bullying that goes on, so yea my main post was because I was quite upset with the community because I felt like all they cared about was results vs. getting to know the actual people.  I care about others to be honest, and i see myself as being selfless; others who know me in real life see this as well, so when in a game i go to the boards its becuase I have no other choice.  Do I have trust issues with a virtual community in which im in a genre where people tend to cut your head off first then ask questions, or the fact of being accused of being an ignorant retard before realizing i have an alturistic side to me...  From my experience MMORPGs lack the "compassion and understanding" that it used to have.  Its a shame but yes ideally i hope this post wakes people up and sets the stage for some real action you know...  You and the few others who gave me good guides and suggestions... I am doing what I can...  However all i can do is research and hope that someone sees this for more than a "pity" post but rather the fact that we as players must not forget we are not talking to machines,  perhaps i am asking too much for a unified community rather than one based on biggotry and hatred of people who need that little bit extra.  but i digress.
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I'm glad i'm not the only one reading alot of self-adulation and insults in the posts of the OP.
 
Maybe this is a troll post? Is it? Because the way the OP insults other people for being bigot / harsh and acting the same way when others are not his/hers opinion is my understanding of "trolling".
 
@OP: In all your holy awesomeness you cannot see that some people are not willing to spend 1+ hours in Dungeons they have run over and over again, failing and wiping hundreds of times? I cannot even remember in how many runs i explained all the trash and boss mechanics. I'm just tired of it. And in the beginning, when Wildstar was released, i had to learn it myself too. Before i queued for a Dungeon i watched an explanation Video every single time! And this continued in Raids even more!
 
If you queue in the LFG tool this is your choice, and the people you get are random. If they don't want to explain alot or carry a fresh player, it is their choice. Why they don't want to do it is irrelevant.	
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			To the OP of this post it seem like you are the one with very low toleration of people, the min anyone says something that doesn't please you then you start calling them bigots or asses. About dungeons this is a game where players must pull their own weight if they don't it will lead to full wipes especially in dungeons and raids. So yes its understandable that players in pug looking for a quick run are mad at you when you are not in the proper skill level. You talk about respect and valuing people's time but than you throwing a tantrum when other gamer who have gone through the exact same progress don't want to spend hours of there time on a dungeon because you don't know how to run it. If you really need that much help find a guild willing to help you, many players on my guild were not raid ready and didn't know how to run dungeons so we helped them by adding players with GA and DS gear to balance out they fact that they couldn't carry them self. So they did the runs to learn them and get a bit of gear.  There are plenty of guilds out there willing to help there players, and if you don't want to gone one find players in lfg who are also new and looking to learn, and learn by wiping. However it unfair you get made at pug players looking for a quick run when you are playing outside of your skill level. Also the fact that you are constantly trying people feel bad for you is kind of pathetic everyone has real life issues but we leave them at the door when we go and play, and if this game it to hard for you find another one don't expect the whole gaming community to change and work around your skill levels. WS like most mmorpg are games that require a lot of work and practice as well as being able to master your class, if you can't or won't do this then don't expect others to pull your weight. The options you have are 1) find a guild or friends willing to help you and practice. 2) learn the runs and how to play your class better so you can do dungeons without dying 3) Just play shipyards, dailies, adventures and stay away from harder endgame. 4) find a new game more playble to your ability 	
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Where should I start...
 
Well, first of all, how can you get worked up over something that's being told to you over the internet ?
Second, if you're applying for a random party, expect random behavior. That goes both ways, the people who flame should either shut up or teach you what to do. If you're unable to do well even after you've been told what to do, you might consider doing easier stuff 1st.
 
I personally always try to help out people, as long as they know basic English (I always play on EU, so English is a "luxury"). Only extreme cases where I give up is when we keep wiping from same error and the one failing doesn't understand squat.
 
"Elitists" need to understand that most people won't read forums / guides either because they want to learn the game by playing it (weird, eh?) or they plain don't know about them. You need to understand that basic stuff that's "common sense" to long time players (like interrupting) is something completely new to others and they don't just know it.
 
In the end, the best thing you could do is find a guild of people who don't care much about hardcore stuff. From my experience they are the ones who have the most fun (or should I say they are the only ones who have fun).	
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@Brainy: But you do not even need to go to Forums to learn about the "elite thing" of interrupting in this game. It teaches you the following things through the whole leveling process:
 
- stand in "red" = bad
- mobs casting something means alot of "red"
- when you unlock skills and read them -> interrupting explained -> skills tell you they remove interrupt armor or stun or knockdown or whatever
- minigame of getting out of crowd control happens before the first dungeon for sure, and again -> if you read skills -> problem solved by getting a crowd control break skill
 
I learned that interrupting casts gives me extra damage and prevents the "bad red" at around level 5 without any explanation. These are the core mechanics of the whole game, and if you did not learn them until you hit 50 it will be hard for you in Dungeons, not to mention Raids.	
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I really do not think you, OP, understand this word bigotry...
 
And its a bit insulting that you keep tossing it around in reference to a video game where you feel entitled in some way.
 
OK, so some people in a PUG treated you raw... do not extend that out so far.
 
You want to talk about bigotry... Look at the news over the last week and the terrorist attack in South Carolina. That is bigotry. Look at the young girl beat up by a police officer at her friend's pool party. That is bigotry. We've got examples like that in the real world all over the place...
 
But...
 
Some people being rude to you in a video game PUG... that is just rudeness. People not agreeing with you 100% on a forum, even when they agree most of the way... that is just disagreement. Not bigotry.
 
Your replies in this thread have moved beyond rational...
			
				
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@Charmz81
I was just giving an example from a new player's point of view, of course by max level you know how to interrupt. Although, I'm pretty sure there are people at max level not knowing stuff that should be known by then.
 
To be honest, I find this thread pretty useless.	
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Hey folks,
 
Just as a reminder, our code of conduct does mention that we don't allow name calling or insults here on our forums. We don't expect everyone to see eye to eye, but we do request that when replying to one another you please remain polite and courteous. We do also already have a thread along the same lines here, as such I'm locking this topic. Thank you for your replies. 
 
- Team WildStar 	
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