108678-race-change-possibility-wildstar

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			Hey guys!Yesterday I´ve sent a ticket to WildStar and asked them if there is any possibility to change your race.They´ve suggested me to post a topic about it and see what other players think.I think we should be able to do a race transfer, since it doesn´t affect any gameplay.If people want to pay for a race change, why not?Together it is possible to bring this feature to the game!I hope you guys want to support this. Even tho there already exist topics like this.. I just fellt like starting a new one to bring this topic alive again.	
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I'll put the same thing I put everytime.
 
Race change/Faction change is just free money for the developers.	
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I'll put the same thing I put everytime.
 
Race change/Faction change is just free money for the developers.
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I approve of this, but only with these additions as well:
NPCs should start discriminating you, giving you lesser rewards, making snarky comments, reducing your number of AH listings, making you pay more for resurrection, preventing others from reviving you, stopping you from doing veteran dungeons and adventures, and the lonely lost larva would cower in fear in your presence.
 
Because this kind of changes should come at a price.
 
Seriously, though, while I wouldn't mind having this option (wouldn't probably use it as there is no incentive for now), right now, it'd cause several problems, like the classes.
Say, you're a Draken Warrior and want to be a Chua. How do you do this since there is no warrior class for Chua yet? Yes, you'd change classes, but that's besides the point since it'd affect the gameplay.	
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I'd support payed race/faction change.
 
The more options the better.	
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So?
 
I support payed race changes. Doesn't hurt anyone.
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So...you are telling me this isn't already in the works? I ASSUMED it was coming, since, it seems like a no-brainer to me. I mean....I am pretty shocked that they suggested polling to see if there is interest.
 
Of course there is interest. I want it now. I have been patiently waiting for it. 
 
So.../signed I guess?
 
Please do it soon? Now?	
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I am not sure Xeph was criticizing that fact.
 
"Free money" means more content, happy devs and a thriving game.
 
That's why this game desperately needs a functional cash shop with more than stupid CREDD in it.
 
We need race swaps, faction swaps, name changes, vanity pets, sweet mounts, costume packages and weapon skins. We need exclusive decor items and the ability to buy a "pre-built" Housing plot with thematic designs already in place (for the lazy and uninspired folks like me who want a badass plot but can't find the time.)
 
Money makes the world go 'round. Money makes games expand. More things to buy, means more things get purchased, means more funds for the long-term health of the game!
 
CASH SHOP, PLEASE! 
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I vehemently oppose this feature.
 
I guess I can't give a very good reason, other than that they did that in WoW and it ruined the whole fun of rolling a race. The second everyone decided it was cool to be something they just rolled it. Like when Tauren Paladins became a thing, EVERY elf paladin on the server rolled Tauren. It sucked the fun out of it for the guys who made a "legitimate" one.
 
And seriously, adding a cash shop is going completely backwards to what Carbine set out to do with the game. The idea of paying a subscription fee opposed to a cash shop is that the content is equal access to everyone. If you want cool shit, work for it, cupcake.
 
I support however adding costumes of other races. I wanna see an Granok in an Aurin costume.	
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 They probably didn't release this type of features for a number of reason...
 
Faction changes hopefully will be coming out at some point. Would be nice to keep the same race as a defector or something..but doubt that would happen.
 
Class/race restrictions removed.. i dont see race changes coming until this is implemented since this could easily be a problem.	
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I'm all for race changes. I rolled a Cassian, and am very happy with that. That doesn't mean sometime down the road I wont grow bored of the species I chose.
 
Unlike some other people in this thread however; I don't want the cash shop to be so robust. Leave it at paid features(server changes, race changes, etc) and maybe some mounts or vanity pets. Leave costumes and the like out of it.	
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			Faction change, Race change, Path change and (Major) Appearance change is just free money for the devs. Make it happen! Shut up and take my money!	
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And seriously, adding a cash shop is going completely backwards to what Carbine set out to do with the game. The idea of paying a subscription fee opposed to a cash shop is that the content is equal access to everyone. If you want cool shit, work for it, cupcake.
 
 
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I vehemently oppose this feature.
 
I guess I can't give a very good reason, other than that they did that in WoW and it ruined the whole fun of rolling a race. The second everyone decided it was cool to be something they just rolled it. Like when Tauren Paladins became a thing, EVERY elf paladin on the server rolled Tauren. It sucked the fun out of it for the guys who made a "legitimate" one.
 
And seriously, adding a cash shop is going completely backwards to what Carbine set out to do with the game. The idea of paying a subscription fee opposed to a cash shop is that the content is equal access to everyone. If you want cool shit, work for it, cupcake.
 
I support however adding costumes of other races. I wanna see an Granok in an Aurin costume.
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I do work for what I want.
 
I get up, every weekday, and go to my office. While there, I spend 7-9 hours of my day, doing work and getting paid for it.
 
I want cool stuff. I work for it. I deserve to have it.
 
Sorry your McDonald's Drive-Thru job doesn't pay as much as my 20-year career in marketing design. Okay, no. I'm not really sorry. Someone needs to make my food and bring it to me - just like someone at Carbine needs to make cool mounts and exclusive vanity pets, so I can buy them and display how much I work for what I get.
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So?
 
I support payed race changes. Doesn't hurt anyone.
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Someone doesn't like capitalism.
 
That's okay. I love it. Good thing businesses love it, too!
 
How's the pizza delivery business going?  :lol:
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I like capitalism just fine, and I make plenty of money, so that isn't the issue at hand. But you're flat out stupid or ignorant to think that just because you have a nice job, people owe you something. They owe you nothing. You get the service you pay for. Outside of that, you're owed nothing.
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			Even tho it costs money. It´s a great option for those who want to change their race. Those who don't want to pay for it,, just don't.Maybe not every race can be changed (since not every class is supported at every race), but atleast I would like to change to another race that has my class available.Besides this all, ofc it costs money. If it was for free, people would keep changing races every day.  	
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Heh. I know I've made my point when someone resorts to name-calling!
 
Have a nice day! I'll see you in the inevitable cash shop! Where I'll be buying all the things I deserve to have because the designers want me to spend more money!
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But a feature to change races wouldn't be bad for anyone. Besides that, the company gets our money. Everyone happy..
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... but a cash shop should never happen unless game goes Free to play. We're already paying a monthly fee to play.
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I vehemently oppose this feature.
 
I guess I can't give a very good reason, other than that they did that in WoW and it ruined the whole fun of rolling a race. The second everyone decided it was cool to be something they just rolled it. Like when Tauren Paladins became a thing, EVERY elf paladin on the server rolled Tauren. It sucked the fun out of it for the guys who made a "legitimate" one.
 
And seriously, adding a cash shop is going completely backwards to what Carbine set out to do with the game. The idea of paying a subscription fee opposed to a cash shop is that the content is equal access to everyone. If you want cool shit, work for it, cupcake.
 
I support however adding costumes of other races. I wanna see an Granok in an Aurin costume.
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World of Warcraft, the most successful MMO in the history of the genre, would like a few words with you.
 
They'd like to tell you how wrong you are, by pointing to their subscription model *and* fully-functional cash shop!
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Just because it exists doesn't make it right. Oh and they're steadily losing subscriptions. Wildstar doesn't have the player base to get away with it. But don't let facts get in the way.
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Are you saying that World of Warcraft is losing subscribers because they have a subscription and a cash shop?
 
Or are you not letting the "facts get in the way" that the game is a DECADE old? That the game play and lore is stale. That millions upon millions of people have already spent all the time (and money!) they want to spend on an aging game, great as it might have once been?
 
Yeah. Don't preach to me about facts when you obviously refuse to accept them yourself.
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My point was the WoW is not WIldstar. WoW is big but losing subscribers, it had a strong base LONG before they had a cash shop. Wildstar does not yet. I am opposed to cash shops because if you're already paying a monthly fee to pay then you're paying for access to all the game. A cash shop in a monthly sub game is unethical to me. Now if Wildstar goes Free to play a cash shop is fine since that's where most their money comes from.
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I do understand and empathize with your position. I just disagree, strongly, that making legitimate money is somehow "unethical" in this case.
 
Someone (you?) told me earlier that I didn't "deserve" anything except what I pay for. That's true. Likewise, if they design something that's made explicitly for sale, then do I not "deserve" to purchase it if I choose?
 
There are, literally, thousands (millions?) of in-game assets that players don't have access to (costume pieces, etc.) ... many more could be made unique by changing the skin, the texture, the color, whatever. Now there is no place in-game for those things ... why is making them available for cash so appalling to you? What does it hurt you if they recolor a big sword, add a particle effect to it and then charge me $10 for my Warrior to sport it?
 
Is your line of reasoning not the ultimate in "I deserve everything" mentality? You're saying, very clearly, that if Carbine makes it, then you are automagically entitled to own it ... on the virtue of your $15 a month?
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I am all for it.  If someone wants to pay to change their race, then why shouldn't they?  It doesn't effect gameplay or anyone else at all.  
 
I also think that you should be able to buy almost anything that does not effect game play (like attunements or achievement rewards).  Some people have tons of time.  Some people have disposable income.  Both should be free to use them as they see fit.  
 
And please, stop with the "earned it" argument.  People work harder to earn their money that you ever will in any game.  	
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I said access to it. No I didn't say it to you. I said access meaning if it's in the game I should be able to acquire it if I met the requirements, like earning it through quest or attending event, because I have already paid for access to the game. I deserve full access to the the game and there by the items in game based on the monthly fee. Not own it but have the ability to acquire it without being forced to pay more, now if the item requires more effort that's different.
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So basically, you "deserve" everything that every member of the Carbine staff creates, because you pay $15 a month. Am I correct in this statement?
 
Please tell me that's what you mean. I really want to hear you say that.
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			yes to race change, services>cash shop	
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yes to race change, services>cash shop
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yes to race change, services>cash shop
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Hey guys!
 
Yesterday I´ve sent a ticket to WildStar and asked them if there is any possibility to change your race.
They´ve suggested me to post a topic about it and see what other players think.
 
I think we should be able to do a race transfer, since it doesn´t affect any gameplay.
If people want to pay for a race change, why not?
 
Together it is possible to bring this feature to the game!
 
I hope you guys want to support this. 
Even tho there already exist topics like this.. I just fellt like starting a new one to bring this topic alive again.
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I approve of this, but only with these additions as well:
NPCs should start discriminating you, giving you lesser rewards, making snarky comments, reducing your number of AH listings, making you pay more for resurrection, preventing others from reviving you, stopping you from doing veteran dungeons and adventures, and the lonely lost larva would cower in fear in your presence.
 
Because this kind of changes should come at a price.
 
Seriously, though, while I wouldn't mind having this option (wouldn't probably use it as there is no incentive for now), right now, it'd cause several problems, like the classes.
Say, you're a Draken Warrior and want to be a Chua. How do you do this since there is no warrior class for Chua yet? Yes, you'd change classes, but that's besides the point since it'd affect the gameplay.
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No race changes before all race/class combos and faction swapping quests are implemented.  
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Yes to change races/faction, no to other kind of cash shop, we already pay for the sub, we shouldn't pay for costumes/skins...if they add costumes and things like that they should make it "free" to get it trough the game and if you don't wanna work for it in the game then use your money to sell creed and buy whatever you want to other player who worked for it cause we don't give a cupcake if you work making pizzas or you're the boss at a big bussines, I don't want different "classes" of players in a game that we already pay to play. 
 
And to TexArcana: I think that you totally loss your point being so rude but that's my opinion	
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			The only way I would EVER advocate a cash shop is if everything in it is available in-game, without going through the cash shop. Minus that, no way am I ever getting behind a cash shop.	
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			How about no?	
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Yes to change races/faction, no to other kind of cash shop, we already pay for the sub, we shouldn't pay for costumes/skins...if they add costumes and things like that they should make it "free" to get it trough the game and if you don't wanna work for it in the game then use your money to sell creed and buy whatever you want to other player who worked for it cause we don't give a cupcake if you work making pizzas or you're the boss at a big bussines, I don't want different "classes" of players in a game that we already pay to play. 
 
And to TexArcana: I think that you totally loss your point being so rude but that's my opinion
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I do work for what I want.
 
I get up, every weekday, and go to my office. While there, I spend 7-9 hours of my day, doing work and getting paid for it.
 
I want cool stuff. I work for it. I deserve to have it.
 
Sorry your McDonald's Drive-Thru job doesn't pay as much as my 20-year career in marketing design. Okay, no. I'm not really sorry. Someone needs to make my food and bring it to me - just like someone at Carbine needs to make cool mounts and exclusive vanity pets, so I can buy them and display how much I work for what I get.
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 CREDD selling is already like a cash shop.
Why should I have to wait for a player like you to buy my CREDD so I can go buy a costume/skin/mount? I'd rather give the company the money. Then that artist gets to keep his job a little longer, because I helped the company, buy buying their virtual good(s).
 
I have bought things in WoW's cash shop. I really don't think my friends give 2 *cupcake*s that I have a mount/transmog item that they can not have. I go to work, I put in the time, I make money. If I want to spend my RL money on in-game virtual items, why should I not have that option because some do not like it?
 
The only time I am against cash shops is when there is a P2P but also P2W (pay to win) items on the cash shop. Then yes, that is wrong. Not going to pay extra to be "stronger".
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Sounds quite profitable to release those two things together, Draken Esper here I come.
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Heh.
 
Okay, I was a little harsh yesterday, but forgive an old man who works hard for his money and is willing to spend it on things I enjoy.
 
While it was a bit of sarcasm, I *am* in full support of a cosmetic cash shop. You can post all your big paragraphs and self-styled psychoanalytical bull-puckey - but the truth is, money makes the world go around.
 
You guys might have tons of free time to "earn" (such a funny concept for a game) all the goodies you want. I do not, but I still want to have cool toys and help support the game. Not a pay-to-win thing - just cool extra goodies.
 
And you can call names like "whale" all you want. That's just another derogatory slang invented by young, poor, rude people who don't know how to unplug from the computer and go earn a real living. Feel free to question my "maturity" but it seems to me I'm one of the few people in this thread mature enough to argue my point without resorting to outright name-calling. Whale, indeed. Howabout I label you "lifeless neckbeard" and we call it even?
 
Let me reiterate. 
 
I make money. I want to give Carbine some more money. I do not want to purchase CREDD for sale. I thing CREDD is a terrible idea - for the exact same reason you guys hate the idea of cash shops. See, I don't have 1000 hours a week to farm enough Plat to buy CREDD. I am *forced* to pay a subscription. I think it's totally unfair that YOU PEOPLE can forgo jobs and lives to play a video game. Instead, I go to work and care for my family. I do, however, have plenty of liquid cash.
 
It's as "unfair" to me to be forced to buy CREDD to support your terrible lifestyles, as it is for you to be "forced" to see me riding around in my cash-shop purchased mount with my cash-shop purchased costume. Does that make sense to anyone?
 
I don't want to support YOUR ADDICTION, so I won't buy CREDD. I will, however, happily give my money directly to Carbine in order to purchase what I want.
 
This ain't rocket surgery - and people's resistance to the idea is just absolutely astoundingly naive to me.	
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			I wonder why people are throwing such a tantrum over this. The majority of MMOs have a cosmetic cash shop. The big poobah of all MMOs does ; cash shop pets, mounts and even fancy-looking transmog helmet. It has proven to work in the past so why would it not work for WildStar? It is not pay to win either. Just look at how the biggest name of them all did it.Now as someone with WAY too much free time on his hands during the day (ER graveyard shift! Not to mention major functional disability!) I can make enough in-game currency to afford CREDD since I would rather not spend real money on a subscription game that I feel does not deserve it for now (from my point of view, mind you!). It would be unfair to put everyone who -can- afford to play using CREDD in the same basket.	
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I wonder why people are throwing such a tantrum over this. The majority of MMOs have a cosmetic cash shop. The big poobah of all MMOs does ; cash shop pets, mounts and even fancy-looking transmog helmet. It has proven to work in the past so why would it not work for WildStar? It is not pay to win either. Just look at how the biggest name of them all did it.
 
Now as someone with WAY too much free time on his hands during the day (ER graveyard shift! Not to mention major functional disability!) I can make enough in-game currency to afford CREDD since I would rather not spend real money on a subscription game that I feel does not deserve it for now (from my point of view, mind you!). It would be unfair to put everyone who -can- afford to play using CREDD in the same basket.
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You're right Storm. I do apologize for that. I expect a good percentage of CREDD users are in your situation.
 
It just steams me up to be called names by some jobless twerps for having the audacity to want to support Carbine with my hard-earned dollars.
 
I freely admit to have little respect for in-game achievements. I just don't get worked up over Epic Lewts ... but I do love me some junk like pets, mounts, costumes and stuff.
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I just think that we should stop calling names to each other, I understand that some people want to spend real money for whatever reason and that's ok. Some have more free time than others and that's ok. Everyone got differents lifes and differents ways of see things and that doesn't mean that one person is addict or whatever.
In the end I'm ok with a cash shop as long as someone who doesn't pay real money could get those things too. It could be cause those things can be sold for in game money or cause you can get those thing "working" in the game. That's my point of view 	
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You're right Storm. I do apologize for that. I expect a good percentage of CREDD users are in your situation.
 
It just steams me up to be called names by some jobless twerps for having the audacity to want to support Carbine with my hard-earned dollars.
 
I freely admit to have little respect for in-game achievements. I just don't get worked up over Epic Lewts ... but I do love me some junk like pets, mounts, costumes and stuff.
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Okay I'll take the unpopular stance here. I have zero issues with some paid service
 
Paid faction changes
Paid race changes
Paid server transfers
Paid Name Changes
Paid re-customization
Paid Guild Transfer
Paid Guild Name Change
 
There's no way anyone should be QQing if they decide to charge for these services. These are not services they have to offer, even that other MMO with far more players than we have charge for all of this stuff. It adds more revenue to the company, more revenue = better Customer Service, more content etc.
 
I have no problem paying for these services, and neither should you
 The crossed out part sounded kind of pretentious in rereading I didn't mean it that way, just meant, these are services we shouldn't be like Oh noes cash shop over. They're legit things to have paid services for, and help the company make a better game and give us better service.	
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Okay I'll take the unpopular stance here. I have zero issues with some paid service
 
Paid faction changes
Paid race changes
Paid server transfers
Paid Name Changes
Paid re-customization
Paid Guild Transfer
Paid Guild Name Change
 
There's no way anyone should be QQing if they decide to charge for these services. These are not services they have to offer, even that other MMO with far more players than we have charge for all of this stuff. It adds more revenue to the company, more revenue = better Customer Service, more content etc.
 
I have no problem paying for these services, and neither should you
 The crossed out part sounded kind of pretentious in rereading I didn't mean it that way, just meant, these are services we shouldn't be like Oh noes cash shop over. They're legit things to have paid services for, and help the company make a better game and give us better service.
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Tex, it just ruins the game for everyone else.
 
Not everybody thinks spending money on stuff is fun (regardless of whether or not we have money to actually spend). Some people think the fun is in overcoming the challenge of the game, just because it brings a type of status that, "I was able to beat the game and you weren't".
 
When you add cash shops that sell equivalent or similar loot to the stuff you have to earn, it cheapens the experience for those people. WoW did this when it's subscription numbers started to slide, and even though you can rightly argue it didn't necessarily hurt the overall success of the game, there was a MASSIVE exodus of players who thought they were "cheated" by a company who felt it was more important to pad their wallets than to offer an enjoyable experience to their player base.
 
Those people generally tend to enjoy the game more playing alongside other people that share their opinions on the fun of overcoming the challenge of the game. Once they started leaving, the "try hards" started leaving at an exponential rate, because they couldn't have fun anymore.
 
Wildstar drew a lot of us back to MMOs because it was the first in a very long time that brought back (or is attempting to bring back) what we all remembered to be the most positive experiences from WoW. We're not raging because we don't think it's fair that people that have money can just buy stuff while we can't or choose not too (to be frank, we really couldn't care less about what financial situations people are in outside the game), we just don't want to see Wildstar take the same route that ultimately killed WoW for us.
 
Maybe we're in the minority, and maybe Carbine would be better off taking the same route as WoW did, but to argue that you need to defeat that simple truth that Wildstar would then be DIRECTLY COMPETING with WoW. At that point, it wouldn't matter WHAT kind of content the game offered to players, it would die simply because it doesn't have the marketing or financial backing to compete with the monstrosity that is Blizzard.
 
This game still has a lot to offer to everybody regardless of what camp you sit it, and to be completely frank your position on CREDD is absurd. The money you spend in "real life" goes to other people who waste it on other useless crap like cars, boats, minis, skate boards or whatever, so you shouldn't have issues with buying gold if it means players have more gold to spend on more useless crap inside the game. And you're helping Carbine more than you think because you're defeating the Chinese gold farmers market, which is a plague to MMOs in general. And quite possibly a real world humanitarian crisis (think of the Chinese children!).
 
But yeah, back to the idea of the race changes; the only model in FTP that's ever worked IMO (and is by far the most successful model ever implemented in any game, period), is the Steam "Hat" model. Basically, the only items you can buy are purely cosmetic items that have no direct effect on how well you can actually do in the game.
 
Because there aren't any racial abilities in this game like there are in WoW, I would suppose you could argue it qualifies for this type of transaction (as would costumes, barbershops and so on), but to be frank I think it would rather they shifted the control of the economy to the players. Paired with the CREDD system, it would do exactly the same thing for the people that just want to buy their way through the game, but all the benefit of the transactions would go directly to the community and push subscription sales.	
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After consulting with some Guildies, I've decided to ram this topic back on track.
 
So as to whether you should be able to race/faction swap in Wildstar;
 
1) One the one side, "Yes because it gives me more stuff to spend money on!" Thank you. We now thoroughly understand that.
 
2) On the other side; I spoke to a few other WoW vets about what they remember about the race/faction swap option in WoW, and the general consensus was that it didn't really do a whole lot for the game. If anything, it just ruined character identity (for those of us who care about that type of thing). Since MMOs are all about building community and all that, faction and race swapping does kind of destroy the whole idea of player identity. Everyone knows the first player who got the Hand of Ragnoros from Molten Core on their server (Beef from Elitist Jerks; you were definitely the center of attention every time you stopped by the Orgrimmar auction house), and everyone remembers that one Night Elf Druid who would gank you every *cupcake*ING time you let your guard down in the Badlands.
 
This game has ALMOST been out long enough to have established the same type of thing. For example, the small, blonde-maned Aurin with an ironically assigned name who mercilessly ganks Chua at every chance he gets *cough* *cough*
 
I would say at BEST it probably wouldn't add anything to get the game, so I don't know why we should request Carbine to go through all the trouble of implementing it.	
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After consulting with some Guildies, I've decided to ram this topic back on track.
 
So as to whether you should be able to race/faction swap in Wildstar;
 
1) One the one side, "Yes because it gives me more stuff to spend money on!" Thank you. We now thoroughly understand that.
 
2) On the other side; I spoke to a few other WoW vets about what they remember about the race/faction swap option in WoW, and the general consensus was that it didn't really do a whole lot for the game. If anything, it just ruined character identity (for those of us who care about that type of thing). Since MMOs are all about building community and all that, faction and race swapping does kind of destroy the whole idea of player identity. Everyone knows the first player who got the Hand of Ragnoros from Molten Core on their server (Beef from Elitist Jerks; you were definitely the center of attention every time you stopped by the Orgrimmar auction house), and everyone remembers that one Night Elf Druid who would gank you every *cupcake*ING time you let your guard down in the Badlands.
 
This game has ALMOST been out long enough to have established the same type of thing. For example, the small, blonde-maned Aurin with an ironically assigned name who mercilessly ganks Chua at every chance he gets *cough* *cough*
 
I would say at BEST it probably wouldn't add anything to get the game, so I don't know why we should request Carbine to go through all the trouble of implementing it.
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I would pay upwards to 14.99$ for a race change.
 	
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CASH SHOP, PLEASE! 
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We need vanity pets, sweet mounts, costume packages and weapon skins. We need exclusive decor items and the ability to buy a "pre-built" Housing plot with thematic designs already in place (for the lazy and uninspired folks like me who want a badass plot but can't find the time.)
 
Money makes the world go 'round. Money makes games expand. More things to buy, means more things get purchased, means more funds for the long-term health of the game!
 
CASH SHOP, PLEASE! 
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			EQ2-style betrayal quests or nothing.  I refuse to support a cash shop or any developer that uses them.  The CREDD nonsense is straining my tolerance as it is.	
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@Carbine that's the recipe where I quit games and tell people I associate with NOT to buy the game. It's the principal, I do not endorse paying box prices for a game copy then a fee to play monthly just to meet a pay-wall to access development muscle regardless of vanity only or not. These things also tend to lean in the direction of forsaking in-game rewards to add more to the cash shop, I mean just look at WoW's Fey-Drake and Iron Horde Chimera, those aren't exclusive mounts, they have NPCs riding them in the WoD beta! 
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So just to clarify, you wouldn't play a game because it allowed you to race change? 
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			In game betrayal, and maybe paid race change is fine by me as every game does it. But the betrayal has to be in game without pay walls.	
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Read my quote! I edited out the lines that said race change, faction and other character service typed things.
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That's why this game desperately needs a functional cash shop with more than stupid CREDD in it.
 
We need race swaps, faction swaps, name changes, vanity pets, sweet mounts, costume packages and weapon skins. We need exclusive decor items and the ability to buy a "pre-built" Housing plot with thematic designs already in place (for the lazy and uninspired folks like me who want a badass plot but can't find the time.)
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Yeah sorry, the whole thread took a massive 90 degree going on about cash shops. It's back on track now.
 
So Scott (best name ever, btw), you're saying that fighting against it is fighting against nothing? But I stated why I would fight it, so really you just don't agree with the point I make in my argument.
 
Can you name, ANY GAME OUTSIDE OF WOW, that benefitted at all from adding any such feature to it? I say that because WoW is brought up a lot, because its obviously the most popular, but its widely arguable as to why. I would challenge that there are a large multitude of reasons that WoW is so successful, OUTSIDE of the cash shop option and even completely outside the gameplay itself.	
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Yeah sorry, the whole thread took a massive 90 degree going on about cash shops. It's back on track now.
 
So Scott (best name ever, btw), you're saying that fighting against it is fighting against nothing? But I stated why I would fight it, so really you just don't agree with the point I make in my argument.
 
Can you name, ANY GAME OUTSIDE OF WOW, that benefitted at all from adding any such feature to it? I say that because WoW is brought up a lot, because its obviously the most popular, but its widely arguable as to why. I would challenge that there are a large multitude of reasons that WoW is so successful, OUTSIDE of the cash shop option and even completely outside the gameplay itself.
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			Change of race, name, faction, etc yes. Vanity items no	
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			Give free server transfers and pay option for faction change.	
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I agree that these things should be available for players as a paid service. No vanity or actual gear, though. Those things should be available in-game and not behind a pay-wall.
 
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Can you name, ANY GAME OUTSIDE OF WOW...
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I agree that these things should be available for players as a paid service. No vanity or actual gear, though. Those things should be available in-game and not behind a pay-wall.
 
Besides FFXIV, there's also TERA. They had race/gender/name changes available in their cash shop as services before going F2P. You know how many people complained about it? Zero.
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Someone understands laissez faire capitalism better...
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I like capitalism just fine, and I make plenty of money, so that isn't the issue at hand. But you're flat out stupid or ignorant to think that just because you have a nice job, people owe you something. They owe you nothing. You get the service you pay for. Outside of that, you're owed nothing.
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			I am pretty much reading this thread solely to see TexArcana's responses. They are great and I support his position.	
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Someone understands laissez faire capitalism better...
 
than someone else...
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It allows people who made the wrong choice to play the faction or race they would prefer, they may not have realized it until far into their attunment quest. It doesn't take away anything from identity it just allows people to correct a mistake for a fee, rather than time. It adds more money to Carbine who in turn can use the money for more content, Support etc, and allows someone to correct a mistake they made by choosing the wrong side, or race.
 
It literally hurts no one and it did not ruin character identity, it just allowed people to change the skin or faction of their character, and fighting against it, is like fighting against something just because you can.
 
If anything the money helps the game.
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Heh. I know I've made my point when someone resorts to name-calling!
 
Have a nice day! I'll see you in the inevitable cash shop! Where I'll be buying all the things I deserve to have because the designers want me to spend more money!
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			Paid services are fine but I play subscription games so I don't have to deal with the cash shop crap. If carbine adds a cash shop I will unsub immediately and delete Wildstar from my computer.	
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It is as if people cannot see the difference between adding in game flair like mounts/pets to a shop and adding in game boosts etc (as in, F2P content)... I mean, regardless, why not just make the stuff tradeable, like wow pets so you can 100% avoid spending if you like.
 
Pretty much the same as CREDD.
 
What a strange thing to be so passionate about.	
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It is as if people cannot see the difference between adding in game flair like mounts/pets to a shop and adding in game boosts etc
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			I don't see how there is anything wrong with doing a cash shop like WoW's except for the max level boost. Its all vanity items and services that have no affect on game play.	
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It is as if people cannot see the difference between adding in game flair like mounts/pets to a shop and adding in game boosts etc (as in, F2P content)... I mean, regardless, why not just make the stuff tradeable, like wow pets so you can 100% avoid spending if you like.
 
Pretty much the same as CREDD.
 
What a strange thing to be so passionate about.
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			But... I'm a Chua, why why would want to be anything but Chua?	
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There is no difference when the game is subscription-based. F2P games can have cash shops because that is their revenue source. The monthly sub is the revenue source for sub-based games.
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Because once they start doing cash shops there's a good chance the developers will start focusing on it. Especially when the developer is connected to NCsoft.
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That makes total sense. If you make money from subs, you should not make extra money. I am sure every mmo out there would agree with you. More money = bad.
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No. We pay a subscription with the expectation that content created for the game is covered by our monthly payment. That is simply how the model functions from a consumer expectation perspective. Your attitude is a very unhealthy one. Consumers should be constantly pressuring providers for the best "deals" possible. We are not obligated to bend to the money-making whims of companies.
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Honestly, your attitude seems like the unhealthy one here. 
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er...careful with the 'we' word...since, you know, it's not true. I am part of we and that is not my expectation. Honestly, your attitude seems like the unhealthy one here. 
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My attitude is one of a consumer who does not view companies as entitled to every ounce of profit they wish. Capitalism is a two-way street. The producers try to make money, and the consumers make diligent, informed choices of parting with their money for the producers' products. When consumers start thinking that everything a company does is okay because the company just wants to make a profit, then the system starts to break down.
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			Yep doesn't hurt anybody and Yeah it would be nice to change.	
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You guys are pretty entertaining...trying to turn this into some sort of 'fight the evil empire' issue. It's a *cupcake*ing cash shop with some non-advantage giving selections that is being discussed here. So calm the *cupcake*down and take your economics lessons somewhere else, they just sound absurd here.
 
Every post you make implies you represent the majority, and then you have the audacity to preach about consumer rights. Guess what, quite a few people in this thread ARE consumers and DO want the cash shop.
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			I support this.	
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I'm so sick of the "*Cupcake*" crap. Is it a censor thing or something? Its annoying as hell... And when did we ever say we represent the majority? We said if they add cash shops we're leaving and so will a lot of others. Once a cash shop is seriously introduced development will start to shift to new items instead of the actual game. It happened in SWTOR, Rift, STO, and DCUO. (Rift and DCUO works around that by also charging for updates.) The only reason it "works" in WOW is because it has so few items and its WOW and Blizzard isn't throwing much development into it. If Carbine adds a cash shot NCsoft will start pushing carbine to keep developing for it and will eventually push for F2P like all their other games. (Yea, yea GW/2 is B2P)
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I don't oppose this idea out of some hatred of cash shops in MMO's: I luvs me my shinnies and have no issue shelling out for them.
 
But I do oppose the default stance of so many paying customers being "here's a way to take more of my money" without thinking of the consequences. If a cash shop is put in game that offers faction switches and species changes (they're not different races folks, they're entirely different species) then that effectively ends the possibility of integrating those features into the game itself via quests or a barbershop. If these items do eventually come as part of a cash shop, I'm okay with that, but we should be asking for these thungs as in-game features first, and then as cash shop services as an alternative later on.	
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Same cash shop trolls in every non cash shop topic.  There is plenty of games out there for the gaming impaired devoted to your type producing credit card loot instead of real content, move along please, or start a cash shop thread.
 
Services are coming, hopefully when they release the other race/class combos.
http://www.wildstarfans.net/2014/06/mike-donatelli-leaves-door-open-for.html	
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Same cash shop trolls in every non cash shop topic.  There is plenty of games out there for the gaming impaired devoted to your type producing credit card loot instead of real content, move along.
 
Services are coming, hopefully when they release the other race/class combos.
http://www.wildstarfans.net/2014/06/mike-donatelli-leaves-door-open-for.html
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The reason it works in WoW is because people like unique things.
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Yes, "cupcake" is the censor word.
 
If a cash-shop ruins a game (by making it go F2), because Devs are trying to come up with cool neat cosmetic outfits rather then adding HUGE new content to a game (Content you do not seem to want to pay for? That team that had to create all the "new" stuff needs to get paid) makes the game crash, then the game deserves that.
 
The reason it works in WoW is because people like unique things. Some you seems to not like. When I say "you" I'm talking to all who are about to have an aneurysm if a cosmetic cash-shop is/were to ever be added.
 
Some of us are ok with this type of Cash-shop. It does nothing to the game, other then make me look different from you because I was WILLING to spend more money on a game. 
Did you all pre-order the deluxe version of the game? I'm going to guess no. So are some you of butt-hurt that I have a few different things then you do? I'm guessing yes.
 
If there isn't a questionnaire for when people un-sub from the game, there needs to be one. Just so if a Cash-shop comes along people like "you", when asked why you are leaving the game, can add
"I'm so furious! I met a [insert player] today who had a costume on that was so glorious my eyes would not stop discharging due to the eyegasim I was having! How unfair! That person decided to spend more of his/her money on your game to get something unique! Why can't we all be the same boring butterflies! My mother lied to me!"
 
On topic of race change: I still 100% want this option. The Dom population on Orias seems to be face planting at a very fast and hard pace, while the Ex side seems to be doing decent.
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I am not sure Xeph was criticizing that fact.
 
"Free money" means more content, happy devs and a thriving game.
 
That's why this game desperately needs a functional cash shop with more than stupid CREDD in it.
 
We need race swaps, faction swaps, name changes, vanity pets, sweet mounts, costume packages and weapon skins. We need exclusive decor items and the ability to buy a "pre-built" Housing plot with thematic designs already in place (for the lazy and uninspired folks like me who want a badass plot but can't find the time.)
 
Money makes the world go 'round. Money makes games expand. More things to buy, means more things get purchased, means more funds for the long-term health of the game!
 
CASH SHOP, PLEASE! 
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			I kind of regret making a Mordesh and wouldn't mind a race change option.   It really is just another revenue stream though.	
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I kind of regret making a Mordesh and wouldn't mind a race change option.   It really is just another revenue stream though.
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easiest way to assure I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, spend another penny on Wildstar.
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			Including a cash shop in your subscription game when it's still young is a sure way to tell your customers that you have no confidence in your own product. Most people are going to assume your development cycles will be based upon maximizing profit from it. And, considering the history of cash shop games, they will be right.	
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Including a cash shop in your subscription game when it's still young is a sure way to tell your customers that you have no confidence in your own product. Most people are going to assume your development cycles will be based upon maximizing profit from it. And, considering the history of cash shop games, they will be right.
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hyperbole. 
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It's a go~
 
Q:  "Paid race changes?"
A:  "There has been some discussion.  It's not going to be in the next patch or two but let's just say that we have every intention of allowing players to customize everything about their character."
 
https://forums.wilds...anges/?p=848169
 
Draken Esper here I come!
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			I agree with Rozyn, I play EQ2 as well ( Antonia Bayle , hit me up Roz) and they do have a WICKED betrayal quest. A friend in our guild was the one of the first players hanged because he betrayed LMAO ! I did the quest early on EQ2, Drow Paladin, but that was 2005. It was still wicked fun. I do like one thing EQ2 has, your not limited to faction by race, you could be an Aurin Dominion, or Cassian Exile. However, if this can't happen, it would be nice to be able to pay for a faction/race change, or even a kit like EQ2 has where your name/race etc are all restarted , but you keep your skill levels.. It would be nice to have a place to change hair, eye color and style as well,..	
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I vehemently oppose this feature.
 
I guess I can't give a very good reason, other than that they did that in WoW and it ruined the whole fun of rolling a race. The second everyone decided it was cool to be something they just rolled it. Like when Tauren Paladins became a thing, EVERY elf paladin on the server rolled Tauren. It sucked the fun out of it for the guys who made a "legitimate" one.
 
And seriously, adding a cash shop is going completely backwards to what Carbine set out to do with the game. The idea of paying a subscription fee opposed to a cash shop is that the content is equal access to everyone. If you want cool shit, work for it, cupcake.
 
I support however adding costumes of other races. I wanna see an Granok in an Aurin costume.
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Pretty sure you won't be allowed to make race/class combos that aren't normally allowed.
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I'd love to see this, specially since i dont have anymore character slots and i cba to lvl up a new alt AGAIN from start, all of my characters (one of each class) are lvl 15+ and i just cant be arsed to lvl up a 20th character just because this doesn't exist...
Ofc limitation of races to your class would to be expected, i just wanna switch over some of my characters.	
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			I'd like to see race changes, or at least a salon-type service where we can change hairstyles or -maybe- facial features. Also I think TexArcana is secretly vehemently opposed to the idea of paid services or a cash shop. It's like he's trying to incite a case of reverse psychology by making himself look like an entitled jerk on purpose. 	
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			I am pro-race/faction paid changes especially since some servers have lopsided faction numbers and want to actually be able to play a toon aside from just server transfers. 19.99 like all of the other things plz!!	
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			I support this. I would pay for a race change I'm getting a little tired of Aurin and wouldn't mind throwing a few bucks at the dev to do so.	
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			I don't think I commented in this one but, yes.  I mean, faction switching might be a bit of a problem so I'm not sure about that, but cosmetically changing race?  Sure, put that in.	
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			I think it would be a good idea, though seeing the odd Mechari in the massive crowd near the Academy Corner in Thayd would be surprising.	
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I'll put the same thing I put everytime.
 
Race change/Faction change is just free money for the developers.
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Probably in the minority here, but I'm not in favor of species or gender changes - that's pretty much a fundamental change to the character and I think folks should just re-roll. I wouldn't *cupcake* if they got added though, so it's not like I feel particularly strongly against them, just my two cents.
 
Profession changes/class changes should be allowed with a paid re-spec token or whatever - maybe even a high-priced NPC in-game to make it crazy expensive (with in-game currency)so folks don't swap to a FOTM class excessively.
 
Faction changes should not be allowed, ever. In a game all about factional choices, I'd hate to see faction changes allowed.	
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I would mind racial or even faction changes.
 
I mean, if you're not happy with your chosen race and want to re-roll, that's on you.
 
But...
 
I donno, I feel like there's a lot behind the scenes that we're missing here.
 
This can't possibly be as easy as we're making it sound.
 
Well, maybe race changes. Faction changes? Maybe not.	
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I know quite a few warriors that wish they could be a different race.
 
Let's just say that there would be a whole lot more aurin in the game if this were possible, assuming you could race change and they made all class/race combinations available	
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			Can't come soon enough for me. Mechari ( and probably Granoks too) move too darn slowly. Not sure if it's a scaling issue due to their model size or what, but I'm tired of running out of  attempting to run out of red puddles in slow motion.	
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No issues with paid race chance, though it's currently worthless to me, as I would need the class restrictions lifted so I could change my human Engi, Medic and Esper to Draken.
Not so sure on faction changes, as I've already heard guys on Dom saying how they wish they'd gone Exile due to the low Dom pop - suspect faction changes might hurt Dominion more than it would help us.
 
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Because once they start doing cash shops there's a good chance the developers will start focusing on it. Especially when the developer is connected to NCsoft.
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			race change , gender change , faction change i would pay for in real $$	
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			Why not just make it payable with the in-game currency. People that want to "work for it" can grind/craft and the people that want to pay for it with cash can use the CREDD system.	
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Now let's be fair.  The developers themselves are not going to be heavily involved in vanity feature creation.  It takes some programing language to include this (Ha! Look at me downplaying the tough job of a programer -- sorry, guys, I know you work hard!) and it falls primarily upon the art-assets team to create these to a quality that will sell.  There's no gameplay changes to worry about that will shackle a game-developper to making sure that a new Aurin end table has the right colour of pink in the little floral stencil on the top drawer -- though maybe there should.  Pink OP.  Please nerf.  Buff blue.
 
Let me talk about my experience with Free-to-Play models In-Game stores.
 
I used to be heavily opposed to Free to Play models, particularly with my preconceptions of how monetization worked in these games.  Having come from a pay-to-play background (World of Warcraft), I snubbed at the idea of paying for further vanity content.  I can safely say that in all of my years with World of Warcraft, I never paid for an individual pet or mount.  However, I did pay a lot for race & faction changes over the years.  Those weren't included in my $15 per month.  But I saw value in those -- I didn't want to have to reroll those characters (again) and, worse, spend a hundred hours of gameplay time catching them up through content I had already played through to equal a character I had already rolled.
 
And I think I might have kept that opinion and voiced similar displeasure about a side-by-side subscription model & paid-for vanity features had I not played World of Tanks for the last year and a half.
 
World of Tanks isn't analogous to MMO gameplay.  It's really an FPS with tanks with a progression system.  Play games (about 15 minutes each), gain XP based on performance, invest XP into unlocking new modules and new vehicles.  I'm grossly oversimplifying.  It's similarity is pretty much limited to time spent = more progression and investment into your account.  In a year, I spent more on World of Tanks, a free-to-play game, than I had spent on World of Warcraft in 3 years and never regretted it.  Moreover, it greatly influenced how I look at monetization in gaming going forward.
 
I greatly encourage Carbine to look towards some quality-of-life features as paid-for services, including faciton changes, server swaps (PVP to PVE Megaservers or back), race changes and Path changes.  I would not mind seeing some dyes, costumes or cosmectic FABkits being purchased through such a store -- in fact, I would probably be pretty happy for this.  Similarly mounts or pets are another viable income stream that would not affect me as a player.
 
However, this does come with a responsibility caveat.  I do not want to see these kinds of items only coming through the online store.  I am not looking for a way to acquire something someone could buy for real-world money in game.  What I am asking for is that if they release a pay-to-own FABkit through the online store, I would also like to see at some point new cosmetic FABkits being available through monthly content drops that can only be accessed through exploring content.
 
It's about balance.  Monetize responsibly and you'll have all my dollars.	
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I wish I were a Chua. 
/sadface
 
Wait, what?  I can spend $$ on this (essentially) free game to become the race I want to be?  YES! 
 
...and then I wake up from my dream.
/sadface	
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			To be fair, I prefer the sub-for-everything model Carbine has.  Why launch this as a pay-for service if they can launch it as a free one or a game currency one?	
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Hey guys!
 
Yesterday I´ve sent a ticket to WildStar and asked them if there is any possibility to change your race.
They´ve suggested me to post a topic about it and see what other players think.
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I have no issue with paid customer service-related items like name changes, race changes, server transfers, guild name changes, etc. I fully understand the lore and technical issues that folks have brought up, but I think at some point customer service needs to take priority over a lore oversight, and only Carbine can determine if the technical issues can be overcome smoothly.
 
I do have a major objection to cosmetic cash shops in a subscription game. The argument that cash shops give the devs more money to develop content is valid, except that more often than not, the developers' focus eventually shifts from adding real content to the game to "how can I wring more money out of the cash shop."	
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			Yes, please, please, please!!!!  I would love for this to happen.	
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			I am literally dying for a race change ASAP. I made a Chua Esper initially, but I've grown to really despise how the costumes look on him as they looks so much less epic than other races. It really upsets me, as I'm someone who loves character customisation as I get tired of the same-old quickly. But I've done so much on this character now including achievements, attunement, rare items etc. so it would be a MASSIVE inconcvenience to re-roll now. :(	
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I'd like to see things shaken up by race change, appearance change, path rerolls* redeemable with CREDD, faction changes real money transaction only. Because I don't to pay 20$ for a fellow Soldier to turn coat!
*Just nuke the path level to 1 when switching them, screw it I'll relevel the path 10times just to reroll it once!	
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			I'd race change my Exile Human in a heartbeat if you implement Aurin Medics :D	
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			Would pay 20$ for a faction change, no strings attached. Too bad it involves a LOT of work and is probably not going to happen any time soon :(	
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Hey guys!
 
Yesterday I´ve sent a ticket to WildStar and asked them if there is any possibility to change your race.
They´ve suggested me to post a topic about it and see what other players think.
 
I think we should be able to do a race transfer, since it doesn´t affect any gameplay.
If people want to pay for a race change, why not?
 
Together it is possible to bring this feature to the game!
 
I hope you guys want to support this. 
Even tho there already exist topics like this.. I just fellt like starting a new one to bring this topic alive again.
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I don`t support it because it`s very unrealistic. Even in a sci fi cartoon space thing, how do you become a totally different species all of a sudden? If they do this; and obviously they will at some point coz RP vandals always get their whiny way; there needs to be a clinic your character goes to to have it done, And for the next two months you have to play covered in bandages as all the scars from the surgery heal.
 
In fact I`d like some racial abilities as well, and faction unique classes.  And more grinding, harder dungeons and losing gear and money when you die.	
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I'd support payed race changes but not faction changes.
 
The first is just fun so why not, the later will effect the game.	
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A race change option would be amazing whether it would be with cash or CREDD.
 
I`ve been regretting the fact that my Stalker is human and not Aurin forever, Aurin animations are so much better for stalkers.	
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never underestimate the profit to be obtained from the disposable income of us working nerds.
 
there is a reason the "micro transaction" games, are literally rolling in money.	
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			Yes!!! To race change ASAP.  I made all of my toons Cassian so I would love to have a race change and make my Chua medic. :P  Another totally off topic I would love to see titles account bound. (I killed the king bee and weed on alts :( )	
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i would absolutely love the choice to pay to change RACE and GENDER  and such that WoW and SWTOR offer. i have paid probably over $100 altering things up so that a character seems new when you can start to seek different armor after you change the RACE and even Gender
 
 	
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			Bumping, this needs to happen!	
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			yes please	
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			Yes to race, and definitely yes to faction changes. I am not opposed to a cash shop either.	
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I agree. Race, Gender, and faction changes would only make people happy and put money into the game, thus hopefully giving us more content and feeding the programmers. If somebody does not like the idea of changing races and such then they can just not purchase that service and continue with their day.
 
I do not support class changes or any system that grants free characters.	
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Same as Scott Of Awesome Im up for:
"Paid faction changes
Paid race changes
Paid server transfers
Paid Name Changes
Paid re-customization
Paid Guild Transfer
Paid Guild Name Change"	
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I regret, that i picked a female human as my stalker instead of a female Aurin (WHY...???). Seriously, the Aurin "airplane walk" while stealthed is the coolest thing i've seen (too late).
 
Carbine, take my money!	
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I would be happy about it because now i am not so happy with my female mordesh spellslinger, i wish i would have chosen human or Aurin.
 
ps: i read here somewhere when the race/class combi on wow came out (Tauren+Paladin) everyone changed. Worst combination ever made. 
 
PPS: i want Racechange!	
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Paid faction changes
Paid race changes
Paid server transfers
Paid Name Changes
Paid re-customization
Paid Guild Transfer
Paid Guild Name Change
Paid Full AMP/AP System or make it account bound	
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Right. But I'm willing to pay for other things. As I mentioned, costume packs, weapons skins, cool mounts and vanity pets ... those things don't hurt anyone. They don't make me better at the game. They don't hurt people who DON'T have them. It's extra.
 
And, as you say, the company gets our money and everyone is happy (well, except the drive-thru, pizza-delivery and moms-credit-card crowd.)
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			Agreed, I would also love to change my female Human stalker to Aurin, animations for Aurin Stalkers are just a lot more awesome.	
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What about "consequences for your choices"?
 
Starting over is not that big a thing to be honest.  Leveling is quick.
 
While I do agree that it doesn't really have an effect on the game other than possible "potential faction balance problems", I fail to see why people are so reticent in this age of modernity to be held accountable for their actions.
 
Race change is the least of our worries right now. 	
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"Starting over is not that big a thing"
 
Sorry, but I´d rather pay 20 eu on a race change than spend months getting 7/7 ability points and 10/10 amp points again, and I´m sure a lot of people would do the same. And it´s not just the amps and ability points, I would also lose all of my gear (a ton of which is not easily replaceable), mount flairs, costumes, elder gems.. need I go on?
 
"In this age of modernity" most MMOs offer race change options, so an eventual race change option in Wildstar would be nice. I do agree that it is the least of our worries, but IF it´s not a lot of work to implement then I`m all for it.	
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I fail to see why people are so reticent in this age of modernity to be held accountable for their actions.
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			Because of lack of a pvp game in order to keep the game interesting I used my last character slot to roll a dominion character. I was pleasantly surprised and would gladly change some of my Exile characters over to Dominion given the chance.	
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What race someone picks to play is not as serious a thing as you're making it out to be. With the way you phrased this, you'd think that by picking a race, a player is committing a crime or something...
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			I'd like a faction or class change more than a race change. I'd love to roll an Aurin Warrior or an Exile Chua. As for a race change, unless you choose a race on the opposite faction or one using a class your current character can't use, I don't see a problem with it.	
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Only if they pick a Chua.
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			I like how it is now. If you want a new race why not make an alt? Maybe they did this because there are different starting areas. If you changed your race later on, you would miss playing that races starting area. Trust me my highest level character is 23 I know my starting areas :p Also there are so many customization options you may just enjoy a new outfit design on your race or try an interesting hat/helmet for a while :)	
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Who needs race changes? Why would anyone want to be anything but a human or an Aurin is beyond me.
 
You people are crazy!	
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			Sounds good to me, as long we can customize it too, and not get some random look.	
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If you changed your race later on, you would miss playing that races starting area. Trust me my highest level character is 23 I know my starting areas 
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I like how it is now. If you want a new race why not make an alt? Maybe they did this because there are different starting areas. If you changed your race later on, you would miss playing that races starting area. Trust me my highest level character is 23 I know my starting areas :P Also there are so many customization options you may just enjoy a new outfit design on your race or try an interesting hat/helmet for a while :)
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Hey guys!
 
Yesterday I´ve sent a ticket to WildStar and asked them if there is any possibility to change your race.
They´ve suggested me to post a topic about it and see what other players think.
 
I think we should be able to do a race transfer, since it doesn´t affect any gameplay.
If people want to pay for a race change, why not?
 
Together it is possible to bring this feature to the game!
 
I hope you guys want to support this. 
Even tho there already exist topics like this.. I just fellt like starting a new one to bring this topic alive again.
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There are two starting areas per faction, and neither of them are race-restricted.
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This.  You can choose either starting area no matter what race you are.
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			Always nice to have options. 	
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I've got no problem with it.  It's nothing you can't get by playing the game, and the game shipped with no real money/game money barrier.  I'd never use it, but there are plenty of things I'd like them to sell that I don't care to buy so that they can keep the game profitable.
 
I wouldn't want it to be diegetic if it wasn't a human-to-human change - in other words, a race change would, as far as I'm concerned, amount narratively to one character leaving Nexus and another arriving.  Keep it out of the story and I'm fine with it. 	
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			Let me clarify what I stayed before. I *personally* enjoy the "theme" of my race choice and their starting area. I get engrossed in the story, so I liked playing as a M ordesh and being involved in their themes, a human surrounded by other humans, ect. So for me personally I wouldn't want to interact as Draken for several weeks then all of a sudden Im a Mechari. Just posting my personal opinion. Im aware that it is possible to play other areas as different races but it just doesn't have the same "feel" to me. Its like when I brought my undead Brainzella on wow to the blood elf realm w my friend to level. No thank you. Brainzella wanted "this had better be goooood. ...." and "embrace the shadows!" Of the undead starting area. Anything else just felt off to me and I didnt feel attached to the character. So to me I couldn't imagine changing race later on. I can see if some people wanted to they could pay for it like Swtor. Just be cuz it would drive me up a wall doesn't mean it shouldn't b in the game, of course. As for the helmet idea, you would be surprised how much they change your appearance. The soldiers helmet wraps completely around the head. In Swtor we have robot costumes so that is an option too. You can take the robot costume on or off and it totally changes your look.
			
				
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			personally i really would like a faction change	
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 RACE CHANGE RACE CHANGE RACE CHANGE RACE 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
NOW PLEASE	
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			There are alot of people who would pay for a race change. I am pretty happy with the races I chose for my classes, however, I would support a race change. Just because it is offered doesn't mean you have to use it. And it's not like certain races give you and advantage to being a certain class like in other mmo's. So please, at least give people the option Carbine.	
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I can see something like this being added alongside the lift of the class/race lock so people don't have to retrain their mains
 
but imo I'm against faction change, exiles already have 2/3 of the game population and I have heared tons of comments of dommies wishing they could faction change.
 
I said that if they wanna betray the dommies at left us with a 1/6 of the game population do it the hard way and retrain a exile from scratch :P	
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I can see something like this being added alongside the lift of the class/race lock so people don't have to retrain their mains
 
but imo I'm against faction change, exiles already have 2/3 of the game population and I have heared tons of comments of dommies wishing they could faction change.
 
I said that if they wanna betray the dommies at left us with a 1/6 of the game population do it the hard way and retrain a exile from scratch :P
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			I will buy a race change...right now.  With da dollars that you need Carbine!	
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Faction
Path
Race
 
Would buy 2 right now.	
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I agreed with this!!!! +1
 
also make any class be playable by any race so the race change purchases go skyrocket!!
 
Also can any dev replie to this post? it feels like we are only talking to our selves!	
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I agreed with this!!!! +1
 
also make any class be playable by any race so the race change purchases go skyrocket!!
 
Also can any dev replie to this post? it feels like we are only talking to our selves!
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