Report 220

Report #220
Skillset: Crow Skill: Nestcall
 Org: Blacktalon Status: Completed Jul 2009
Furies' Decision:
Can feed as well from ground elevation.
Problem: A crow's nest allows its owner to regenerate health and mana while in
the nest so long as there is carrion in the nest. Nestcall is an ability to
temporarily move your nest from one room to another, but the room must have
trees. This takes 5 power, 5 carrion and lasts for 5 minutes. You are allowed to
use any nest ability except for rebirth. This essentially means you can track a
person's movements (which you would be better off doing safely in the nests
original location), store corpses to add carrion (also better done at the
original location as to not consume carrion and power to call it), replenish the
carrion in your belly (the only semi useful one mid combat still at the cost of
5 power), or sit there and regenerate health and mana (which you could do by
sipping mana, sipping health, etcera faster and with less cost).
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #1: Nestcall should be changed so that its effects work
 both in the ground and trees after being called in
 the trees (so it still requires trees). A message
 change would be required for this to make sense. This
 would only work for the person who owns the nest
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #2: Similar to solution 1. Nestcall's effect should work
 both at tree and ground elevation after being called.
 This should benefit all Crow users in the room. A
 message change would be required for this to make
 sense
Player Comments:
---[Krellan on 7/24 @ 21:41 writes]:
Please keep in mind that it's counterpart in Stag, Stag Totem heals health,
mana, AND ego as well as cures a random affliction and works on the druid and
all allies for the same cost. Obviously, skills should not be alike, but I do
think skills should be made usable or worth using.
---[Xenthos on 7/24 @ 23:31 writes]:
Both are better than what we have, but this still isn't really comparable to
stag stomp. Also, in regards to Warrior usability: All of us except Sojiro and
myself cannot make trees, which makes Nestcall even more difficult as it
requires tree elevation. Stagtotem can be called by Serenguard on ground
elevation (where most hunting/fighting occurs). This, plus it only curing h/m,
versus Stagtotem's |h/m/e/+1 affliction cured / CURES ALL ALLIES| is rather off.
I would personally like to see a bit more than the two solutions here, but
anything helps.
---[Xenthos on 7/25 @ 04:38 writes]:
Pardon! I mean, it's still really not comparable to stagtotem.
---[Ceren on 7/25 @ 09:42 writes]:
Hey, how come you didn't give him a last minute report scolding! I like solution
2, so long as the h/m regen isn't way more godly than I think it is, which I
don't think it is.
---[Krellan on 7/25 @ 11:31 writes]:
I also like solution 2. Crow users was a last minute idea. Last minute reports
breed creativity! H/m regen wouldn
---[Krellan on 7/25 @ 11:33 writes]:
Be upped, it would just remain the same. Just asking for this to get a bit more
functionality. Also, Xenthos is the only crow EG so no one cares (just kidding,
but seriously, no one does). Also, I accidentally hit enter, which is why it cut
off. It's hard to think of situations where not having trees is a big deal
enough to ask for some to be made, so I don't really see it as a problem.
---[Xenthos on 7/25 @ 13:50 writes]:
Actually, I'm not. I've got a couple others these days. Rogan, Shiawase, and I
believe one more though the name is not coming to me at the top of my head. The
h/m regen is, at the moment, 10% per tick Ceren. Ticks every 10 seconds. Also:
Yours was just the first last minute report I read. There are way, way too many
of them this time. Gah.
---[Sidd on 7/26 @ 21:57 writes]:
Sounds good to me
---[Llandros on 7/28 @ 00:32 writes]:
Sounds like this skill needs a boost, no objection to either of these solutions
---[Nienla on 7/28 @ 02:48 writes]:
Sounds fine, either or.
---[Gregori on 7/28 @ 02:53 writes]:
First off, Stag totem does not heal ego. it only heals health/mana and 1
affliction every tic. Second, I would point out that other skills in Crow are
far more useful in comparison to Stag's skills. The instakill for example is by
far better and easier for a Blacktalon to pull off than Stag's instakill. Crow
eyes for spying, flying/tracking/hoisting, immunity to dreamweavers via
facepaints, limb healing with facepaints. Crow is not a skillset anymore that is
lacking and giving it the same healing as Stag just pushes it even further ahead
of the "balance" of the two.
---[Xenthos on 7/28 @ 02:59 writes]:
At the same time, Stag has facepaints for faster eq / balance, for increased
wound healing and an enhanced sip, stagstomp which is extremely effective for a
saplock, etc. I don't think there's really a huge imbalance between the two,
but it would be nice for nestcall to actually be effective (which, well, it
really isn't at the moment). All of its stats and such are recorded above.
---[Gregori on 7/28 @ 03:12 writes]:
You are correct we have faster balance or faster eq facepaint, we have medicine
bag as well. Our skillset is based around defense. Crow is based around offense.
Crow does not need to have its cake and eat it too, by getting both defense and
offense. The faster balanceor eq, is only level 1 and with the speed adjustments
is barely noticed by many who use it, especially if you are a fast balance/eq
race already. Medicine bag is good yes, but power intensive to maintain and is
only a 50 sip vial. Stag has it's drawbacks to its healing. Again, Crow has come
out well ahead in the reports fixing it and does not need to be pushed further
so by giving it Stag's healing as well.
---[Gregori on 7/28 @ 03:14 writes]:
I meant to add that stagstomp while helpful in saplocks is nothing compared to
the mana drain/instakill functionality of a Crow user. In fact for the most part
stagform for druids is useless, other than the lower stomp cost and the "we gore
cause it is funny, not functional" factor.
---[Gregori on 7/28 @ 03:25 writes]:
Just to note. I am not disagreeing with the report, Having it work on both
ground and trees is acceptable. I should have stated that. I am disagreeing with
Xenthos' theory that is should be improved beyond that.
---[Xenthos on 7/28 @ 21:59 writes]:
I'm not really sure why, since I would still like more than the solutions
suggest. Such as, as an Ebonguard, being able to use the skill without having
to get someone to summon trees for me everywhere (yes, I personally have a
censer, but not everyone does). Do you feel that extra request is really that
excessive?