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Well, today is one month since WS reloaded went live.
 
I have done most of the content. Cleared every zone. Done vet adventures, expeditions and dungeons.
 
Most of all, I played PvP. Now that I am completely geared and runed, I really have nothing to do but grind contracts. But, for what? Warplots are still something that ppl know its there, somewhere. BG matchmaking is one of the worst I have ever seen. World PvP is non-existent. Arenas are fun. But why the hell would I play them, I already have the best gear and runes in the game. In less than a month. What's the point? PvP progression is something that need to be there, and it needs to be hard. This was a child's play. 
 
Today I have figured out that I am logging in out of habit. nothing more. I don't have that itch to log on. And, to be honest, I don't think I ever had.
 
Game is seriously lacking in end game content. I get it that you can go for gold medals and progress through all two (2!) raids... But, apart from that, it's grinding the same shit over and over again. I feel like playing Diablo 3 before advanture mode.
 
When I think that I need to go through the exact same zones and quests if I want to level my other chars, I wanna vomit. 
 
I don't know. I simply have no motivation to go forth and I love the game for *cupcake* sake.
 
I am not here to flame devs or the game itself, just asking for an advice. What do you guys do when you get where I am now? Or is this game simply not for me...
 
Sorry for my rant. I just felt kinda sad and disappointed.
 
 
 
 	
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I don't know *what* to tell you. Seems like you kind of rushed things (a common issue with people who have a love for a game and lots of time on their hands) and have put yourself in the classic "I did everything as quick as I could and now I have nothing to do" dilemma that's so prevalent in MMO culture.
 
I see that you're mostly a PVP guy and, as you point out, the PVP in WildStar is not exactly "wide and deep." You've "beaten" it in one month. Well, awesome.
 
If you don't want to PVE to the Raid level, there honestly isn't much for you *to* do unless you want to build a Housing plot. If you do want to try PVE, then that Orange PVP gear isn't going to get you into many raids, so building a good PVE set might be a place to start?
 
Best of luck.	
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Wow, you made it all that way and everything including both (2!) raids??
 
I'm not sure there is an MMO out that could keep up with you  :(	
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			If you enjoy PvP and arenas go for rating. It's not really tangible, but being in the top10 rated arena players for your class surely would count for something?	
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Im not a PvP player so i cant give you any advice on that. If you are into PvE and have not even seen raids... boy... you have seen nothing and there is so much content waiting for you. If you are not motivated to do it and ignore the endgame PvE (i get that it is a huge time commitment) you are stuck to the group finder content which gets boring with some time.
Same can be said about doing all dungeons with gold. 	
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			This is the inherent problem with MMO's lately. Developers seem to be concentrating solely on making them into these awful, thinly-veiled skinner boxes instead of, you know, an actual game.	
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all two (2!) raids...
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I said I didn't do raids.
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You could always be the one to bring Warplots into everyone's view instead of complaining about how there is nothing to do.
 
Take up the charge and bring Warplots into the view of Competitive PVP community instead of whining how there is nothing to do blah blah blah 	
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Well, I've played e.g. the same Left 4 Dead maps a billion times, but I still love it.
 
I don't see my MMO's differently from other games anymore. I don't play to 'clear' anything, I play because I enjoy it.
It seems you don't enjoy this game, so I don't know what to tell ya.
 
Just curious, what's your total /played?	
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I missed where you said this.
 
So I dunno- I really enjoy running the dungeons a lot, and working toward better gear. If you don't have all the DS BoE weapons, you still have more than you can work for. But if it's more content you are looking for, yeah, pretty much the only stuff left for you is going to be the raids. MMOs are about motivating people to re-run the same content lots of times. If you aren't into that, they probably aren't going to be able to keep you long term.
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I missed where you said this.
 
So I dunno- I really enjoy running the dungeons a lot, and working toward better gear. If you don't have all the DS BoE weapons, you still have more than you can work for. But if it's more content you are looking for, yeah, pretty much the only stuff left for you is going to be the raids. MMOs are about motivating people to re-run the same content lots of times. If you aren't into that, they probably aren't going to be able to keep you long term.
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I did too and got called names.
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This. I think this is something that won't be sustainable for the genre long-term. Most gamers today are becoming less and less tolerant of this kind of grind-y, carrot on a stick type of gameplay. The next MMO that comes out that sees massive success will be vastly different than the usual cookie cutter theme park WoW-esque MMO's we've been subject to in recent years.
 
This is a whole other discussion though. I don't want to go too far off-topic.
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			Take a week or two break. Then come back and youll see the love for game will return. If not, move on.
			
				
	Edited October 30, 2015 by Jayvi	
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			Have you done the raids yet?	
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Well I just play PvP. That's why I got myself fully geared and runed so I can actually play PvP.
 
 
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But why the hell would I play them, I already have the best gear and runes in the game. In less than a month. What's the point? PvP progression is something that need to be there, and it needs to be hard. This was a child's play. 
 
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			Hmm, I'd say take a break. Rumor is a new dungeon and a new raid are coming up, so maybe look forward to that?Have you maxed out all factions yet?	
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heh another low rated scrub calling pvp childs play. 
 
go play clubpenguin m8
			
				
	Edited October 30, 2015 by The Valiant King	
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			Wonder what his 3v3 personal rating is now... even BG rating would be nice to see	
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Wonder what his 3v3 personal rating is now... even BG rating would be nice to see
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I mean, if you're a raider and you *finally* get the last BiS items and *finally* get all your runes perfect and you've *already* beaten the content ... do you keep Raiding? I mean, you already got the very best of everything. You can outperform everyone that's not on your level and you've mastered the mechanics.
 
What's left?
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Helping your friends get the gear :)
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			Get the alternative role pvp set then !!!	
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That doesnt make sence. Player usually enjoy spec and build he created for self and farming other gear for something different is not a thing for everyone. Which would be case of this guy aswell.
 
It is like those restaurants that provides you unlimited food for flat payement. You either pay and eat just enough to be happy... or you stuff yourself to the point you will be sick of it and probably throw up at home.
 
Which is the case you should stop eating in the right moment and take a break to diggest.	
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What's left?
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heh another low rated scrub calling pvp childs play. 
 
go play clubpenguin m8
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Sure. You are awesome! I suck. Feeling better about your shitty life now?
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Shameful was how you chose to respond to others with name-calling and foul language.
 
Bye.
			
				
	Edited October 30, 2015 by Tex Arcana	
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What's left?
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Shameful was how you chose to respond to others with name-calling and foul language.
 
Bye.
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I'm an exclusive pvp'er who has been playing for over a year... and still enjoys the game.
 
Can't wait for s2 to start, I really don't care about gear progression, I just like beating people up (or heal people who are beating people up)
 
There is loads of stuff to discover still, the housing is awesome for a timewaster if you're bored of pvp. Loads of collectible stuff from discoveries, lore books, path stuff, contracts.
 
Getting gold on dungeons is something I want to do soon, I've always been too lazy to do it :)	
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I'm an exclusive pvp'er who has been playing for over a year... and still enjoys the game.
 
Can't wait for s2 to start, I really don't care about gear progression, I just like beating people up (or heal people who are beating people up)
 
There is loads of stuff to discover still, the housing is awesome for a timewaster if you're bored of pvp. Loads of collectible stuff from discoveries, lore books, path stuff, contracts.
 
Getting gold on dungeons is something I want to do soon, I've always been too lazy to do it :)
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			These threads.   :rolleyes:	
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< Esper healer alt in leveling pvp. Dang it people, don't f***ing roll out of my soothe. The struggle. Oh and I assume nothing but focus pool in the lower levels?
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Well if you only do the gear grind for pvp then yeah I guess your out. Usually at this point you would do arenas for rating or join an organized pvp guild (again for rating, to work on getting a warplots team together, because it's fun etc)
 
For PvE have you completed all the raids now? Or does that not interest you? For me I have barely touched raids, but I do dungeons a lot, because they're fun. My main doesnt need dungeon gear anymore, but I still do them for fun and monies.
 
If you only play for a grind then, maybe work on maxing all your reps? try to go achievement hunting? idk what you're looking for exactly that has you at a standstill	
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No need to be snippy. You made this thread. Honestly, how did you expect the PVP community to react to this post? You basically just let them know that now that you have the bestest gear that they are no longer worth your time and effort.
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I've never really liked the idea of slowly gearing. WoW's announcement of the removal of PVP gear is pretty exciting to me.
One thing to note is, WS did just have that double prestige event. That moved things along pretty quick.Still, an interesting thing about WS is the Elder Gem system. That can give you a good reason to get back into BGs. Heck, I picked up the Elder Gem weekly quest for PVP this week and started farming BGs again. I guess it really depends if there is anything you care about from Elder Gems.If all you truly care about is gearing and not actually playing or getting cosmetic stuff(titles,achievements,house stuff, costumes). I think the quick gearing is still a good thing. You can get over the game faster and move onto something else. Gives you more free time to try out other games and maybe find that MMO where it clicks. Where it's not just about the gear, it's about actually playing the game!
			
				
	Edited October 31, 2015 by Knoc	
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			Basically you're saying, "I hit max level, did some pvp/dungeons/etc (stuff I finish my first week on an alt at 50 personally) and feel complete". Except, you're taking out any of the other options, raiding for example, unless you join a 8/9-9/9 DS guild, would take you months of progressing in the "just 2 raids". Not to mention there's still augmentors 20/hard mode augmentors 20 (which is even more difficult than DS).On top of that, you're saying you see no point in arena and/or leveling an alt, I mean you've basically blocked out all your options by saying they're pointless. Just keep pvping, or maybe become a RPer and start building a neat house, who knows the game gives you plenty of options even if it lacks some pvp progression (something that people demanded be destroyed originally and was with the removal of rating tiers on gear).
			
				
	Edited October 31, 2015 by Naix	
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And this thread is the perfect example of why letting premades ROFLSTOMP pugs is bad for both sides.
 
It's too easy for the premades and they level up heaps faster than everyone else then complain there's nothing to do with their MASSIVE advantage.	
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This. I think this is something that won't be sustainable for the genre long-term. Most gamers today are becoming less and less tolerant of this kind of grind-y, carrot on a stick type of gameplay. The next MMO that comes out that sees massive success will be vastly different than the usual cookie cutter theme park WoW-esque MMO's we've been subject to in recent years.
 
This is a whole other discussion though. I don't want to go too far off-topic.
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Not gonna be another MMO with massive success; the genre as a whole is circling the drain now that MOBAs and their ilk are taking the reins. No western publishers are investing in any new MMO development, and indie studios simply aren't going to take the risk or be able to generate the millions it takes to build, run, and sustain an MMO. 
 
I think the ones that are here are lucky to have gotten in the door, but I'm not sure that the market is big enough to take on any newcomers. I think WS is one of the last great traditional MMOs we're gonna see. 
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			I've done almost zero PVE content, and only PVP during building downtime, the housing alone is enough to occupy almost all my wildstar time :)	
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When I think that I need to go through the exact same zones and quests if I want to level my other chars, I wanna vomit. 
 
 
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I've done almost zero PVE content, and only PVP during building downtime, the housing alone is enough to occupy almost all my wildstar time :)
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Not gonna be another MMO with massive success; the genre as a whole is circling the drain now that MOBAs and their ilk are taking the reins. No western publishers are investing in any new MMO development, and indie studios simply aren't going to take the risk or be able to generate the millions it takes to build, run, and sustain an MMO. 
 
I think the ones that are here are lucky to have gotten in the door, but I'm not sure that the market is big enough to take on any newcomers. I think WS is one of the last great traditional MMOs we're gonna see. 
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Where do you squeeze in the time to write your addons? ;)
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@OP
 
If you accomplished all of that in a month, I would say that you just spend too many hours per day playing....no game out there really has an answer for that.
 
Aside from that, have you tried to make a guild or mentor new players? Do you fiddle with the Housing? RP? I feel like true "End Game" for MMOs, or at least long term sustainability for players comes from community interaction- if you just solo everything or only group as a means to do certain content but then never really talk to anybody, this is probably your biggest problem as far as "motivation" to play is concerned.
			
				
	Edited November 4, 2015 by Pygar Jetrunner	
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If you had the motivation to sit down and do all content inside of a month, you know a whole lot about motivation than I do.
 
 	
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			I have way more motivation to play "no content" game wildstar than do my uni work... :(	
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I've done almost zero PVE content, and only PVP during building downtime, the housing alone is enough to occupy almost all my wildstar time :)
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Just wanted to throw some things out there....
 
My guild on Warhound will be setting up weekly Warplots.
If anyone is interested in participating or getting their guild involved shoot me a direct message and we can coordinate. This would bring a lot of fun back to the game and can be competitive or we can all just do it to do it since it's been dead for a bit. I think right now we are looking at Friday Nights and possibly a week night if that will work better overall. Would love to hear some feedback on this.
 
To everyone:
Please try not to flame each other. It's easy. We're anonymous online, I get it. But we all like this game and for the game to survive in a f2p model we NEED the "NOOBS". I'll repeat - We need the new players, the bad players, the whatever you want to call them players and flaming them or calling names doesn't make them want to stay with the game. Do you want more content? Do you want more of anything... they already laid off plenty of people working on this game. As cookie cutter as you want to make it sound it is different, it does provide a challenge and if anything it's good that it is similar to WoW but provides a different fighting mechanic with telegraphs. Hopefully we can get people to come play because of the familiarity plus some unique aspects. 
 
We would all love the mmo genre to evolve but no one knows what that is yet, companies keep trying they fail or get scared and go back to profitable models they know work. As gamers we have hurt this just as much as the "share-holders/devs/whoever else you want to blame" have by the way we destroy and hurt our own communities. Yea I remember back in the day of DAOC and EQ1/EQ2 grinds were insane, but you sat in your corner pulling mobs and got to know the players you were with and got to really know your character. The time sink sucked but you were satisfied because the results were worth it and you didn't consume everything in a month or two then feel like you didn't get your monies worth (for lack of a better phrase).
 
We will always have the "elitist" and those people but make an effort to not act like a jerk... it's easy to be the best when no one else is competing. IF you really want to be the best, prove it and help get more people to compete against. 
 
Also to the OP:
Take a break. There is a lot more content to come and Season 2 hasn't started yet. You can start organizing a BG group and setup with some friends for Arenas once the season starts that will become very popular. I know my main BG group as a 10 man rarely gets defeated - We welcome the challenge. We have been beaten, we are killable - we want to fight other coordinated groups though to make it more competitive and strategic. That will too bring depth and more fun to pvp.
 
If you plan to only play solo, zerg into BGs just to farm gear and sit half afk well yea you're bored. If you consistently try to put out top damage or heals and live more than you die, well you're working towards becoming a better player and will dominate in that landscape after some time.
 
There is a TON of content to do in the game. I have played on and off since launch on mostly ONE character and haven't completed half the stuff available. Sure some of it is low level but hey once you're bored at max level you'll realize this game has some good content writers and neat stories woven within.
 
Go setup groups to kill World Bosses, if you beat all the dungeons you have ilvl80 gear... WB can drop ilvl90... contract boards can drop up to ilvl100 - This completely changes things when you go back to those dungeons... beating them on Bronze is cake, silver is a bit harder, but to get GOLD - that's a whole new level of depth and coordination with your group.
 
Raid are fun, but not for everyone... that is completely up to you - but it is MONTHS worth of content especially if you don't just get carried through and really get to experience it. Trust me, watching videos and knowing the fights doesn't even matter, being able to perform the mechanics is a whole diff story.
 
this got longer than i thought so im just bailing out now. 	
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