145109-reminder-that-this-is-unacceptable

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			please support covered feet for mechari.	
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Agreed. 
 
Oh! And give them voices. The NPC mechari have voices. The mechari in the videos have voices. Playable Mechari make some barely audible clanks and whirs? What?	
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Agreed. 
 
Oh! And give them voices. The NPC mechari have voices. The mechari in the videos have voices. Playable Mechari make some barely audible clanks and whirs? What?
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Probably would not be a big deal for male mechari to have footwear. Don't bother with female mechari boots because flats mess up their walk/run/sprint animations, so that would have to be redone, or just make all the boots like the ones from the beta outfit that cover the toes, but the heel is still there. That however will take someone going through and modifying all the footwear for female mechari. 
 
So in my opinion, male mechari boots yes. Female mechari boots no
			
				
	Edited October 24, 2015 by Arachnaas	
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I agree in regards to us male Mechari, but I like the high heels on female Mechari. 
 
And yeah, I dont get the lack of voices.  	
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Could have the boots on mechari function as a skin for their feet so they can at least alter the colors.
 
Unfortunately my makers could not be reached for comment as they have 
probably passed through the digestive tract of a schizophrenic angry god.
 
 
You will have to alter your holo-wardrobe settings or the pre-fabrication settings for each new mechari to even out your fashion potential with the Exiles in the meantime.	
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Yeah I would support this. It's a bit like troll feet in Warcraft. Sometimes they look good with them out (well obviously never trolls) but sometimes it can hurt the look of your costume having these little naked robot feet (that often don't even match the colour of the costume) poking out.
 
Maybe in the future they can add different types of boots for them. The race wears armour like everyone else on all other parts of the body so I can't work out why they wouldn't wear anything on their feet. You would think feet are one of the things you would protect as a robot as having them blown off means you're just a turret.	
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			We should all protest by hiding our costume piece and fight barefoot!	
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			im glad there is at least some civilized outrage over this, on friday's live stream it was mentioned and they were not even aware of the issue :(	
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im glad there is at least some civilized outrage over this, on friday's live stream it was mentioned and they were not even aware of the issue :(
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			 Wait so the mechari can't wear boots ect.. what will happen if carbine releases bunny slippers as a costume item. Oh the travesty..	
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Maybe Mechari are actually the biggest nature loving race in the game, and they go barefoot all the time to, I dunno, feel the lifeforce of the living world and keep their spirits in tune with the soul of the cosmos, or something. Hmm... they do have a thing for crystals too. Very New Age-y. 
 
Move over Aruin, the Mechari are the real hippie flower children of this game. 	
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			Except they don't go barefoot all the time.  Some boots in the game work, most don't.  So, like I said in another thread, if they can get boots to work for Mechari, why are they still designing boots that don't?	
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 Wait so the mechari can't wear boots ect.. what will happen if carbine releases bunny slippers as a costume item. Oh the travesty..
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Except they don't go barefoot all the time.  Some boots in the game work, most don't.  So, like I said in another thread, if they can get boots to work for Mechari, why are they still designing boots that don't?
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Because not all boots work for the Mechari.
 
That or the boots that they have that do work wouldn't have looked right if they didn't.  At least, that's my guess.
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			also a fix for whatever causes mechari hand to do this while on hoverboards would be nice. but the show thing is far more important and should be fixed first.why is the best race the most neglected race?	
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also a fix for whatever causes mechari hand to do this while on hoverboards would be nice. but the show thing is far more important and should be fixed first.
 
why is the best race the most neglected race?
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That just makes their hands more aerodynamic. It's a feature. 
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i couldnt find the picture, but they datamined the christmas costume set and the feet for that set is fuzzy rowsdower slippers...
 
this really needs to be addressed. solve the problem before it happens.
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Shhh.. that was what I was referring to without spoiling it for those that dont know lol
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I'm gonna play devils advocate here but...
 
Shoes, were designed to to protect the foot of the wearer from physical damage. That was the shoe's primary purpose, as a machine i imagine idea of " shoes " is more of a biological thing that most mecharci wouldn't bat an eye at. There feet are made from metal, of who knows what origin... so need for shoes is kind of a moot point. 
 
THAT said... a skin/pallete to match your outfit does seem like it would nice, or some kind of armor over the foot/toes... but i kind of get why they don't wear boots...	
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also a fix for whatever causes mechari hand to do this while on hoverboards would be nice. but the show thing is far more important and should be fixed first.
 
why is the best race the most neglected race?
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You can really see it is the same skeleton in the raid level medic armor.
 
 
Mordesh and mechari stand just about exactly the same way if you remove the mechari's heels. Which is one of the reasons I don't want that to happen. 
			
				
	Edited October 25, 2015 by Arachnaas	
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I'm gonna play devils advocate here but...
 
Shoes, were designed to to protect the foot of the wearer from physical damage. That was the shoe's primary purpose, as a machine i imagine idea of " shoes " is more of a biological thing that most mecharci wouldn't bat an eye at. There feet are made from metal, of who knows what origin... so need for shoes is kind of a moot point. 
 
THAT said... a skin/pallete to match your outfit does seem like it would nice, or some kind of armor over the foot/toes... but i kind of get why they don't wear boots...
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It doesn't even have much lore to back it up.  Technically speaking, Mechari don't need clothes at all, as evidenced by many of the Millennials.  Mechari choose to wear clothes basically to fit in better.  What reason would they have for wearing everything but shoes?
 
Besides, as I've pointed out, some boots do work on Mechari which undermines this being some sort of lore choice.
			
				
	Edited October 25, 2015 by Cantatus	
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			Some boots do cover Mechari feet; in fact, most raid gear does so I'm surprised those particular pieces of footwear don't.	
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			I totally believe this is design failure. I like the heels too but come on, if you're not gonna design shoes for them, don do it. It was kinda cute at first like "look, mechari don't wear shoes", even kinda special. It's not anymore.	
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			Who care, you're a robot, you don't feel anything anyway	
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Who care, you're a robot, you don't feel anything anyway
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I want my Mechari voiceovers first.
 
Personally I think the stiletto heels on females looks awesome.	
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			i personally can have so many more hours of fun making actual costumes with working boots than an ingame laugh(or w/e voice overs they are missing)	
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			/signed	
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			I actually like their uncovered feet. I sometimes even undress my mechari completely because why do robots need clothes anyways? >.< 	
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I actually like their uncovered feet. I sometimes even undress my mechari completely because why do robots need clothes anyways? >.< 
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neat, but why force everyone to do it?
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want to bump this to bring back the issue of "i dont want to see mechari feet all the time with every costume".
 
there is this thing called "flow" when it comes to character design. carbine is well aware of this. i know they are aware of this because all their characters flow VERY well. so shouldnt they recognize the terrible character design and lack of flow when a mechari tries to wear a complete costume set and its intended boots are chopped in half?
leave that type of ugliness to the leveling gear, the things you will wear once and throw out. please dont do it to costume items and raid sets.
what if i dare to be adventurous one day and decide to dye my mechari's armor something OTHER than spacetime blue?	
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			The Dominion Cryosuit shoes actually cover part of a Mechari's feet - has anyone checked other open heel&toe shoes to see if they do the same?	
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The Dominion Cryosuit shoes actually cover part of a Mechari's feet - has anyone checked other open heel&toe shoes to see if they do the same?
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			/signed - nothing more frustrating than a decent costume being ruined because of the boots not fully covering the feet up	
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again:  I don't understand why they continue to add costumes that do not work on Mechari when there are several that do.  Particularly since there seems to be no rhyme nor reason as to which do and which don't.  There are the big robo-boots like the Engineer and Medic raid sets, which are obvious, but then you have smaller boots like the Highwayman's and Cannibal costumes, and then a couple that are little more than tights (one of the Esper sets inexplicably).
 
But really, I think the thing that frustrates me much more than that is the fact that people have literally been asking about this for 2 YEARS, and it has yet to be acknowledged, let alone addressed.  The closest we've come is Sunshine trying to field a question about it on a stream but not really understanding what was being asked.  While it'd still be annoying to have great costumes added that I can't properly use (and thus won't spend any money on), I think I'd be a lot less frustrating if we at least had an explanation for why this happens.  Surely someone at Carbine can provide some insight.  Instead, it's just something that has been consistently ignored and avoided since before the game launched - and I imagine will continue to be.  It shouldn't be so aggravating to play a Mechari.
			
				
	Edited March 31, 2016 by Cantatus	
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RIP medic PVP costume
 	
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			it sems yall are nitpicking whats wrong on a Mechari reroll and play another race geez...But voices I do agree on 100%	
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This is why I can only used these shoes on my Mechari.
 	
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			I don't usually go in for action heroes in high heels, but that that outfit is the mutt's nuts on that character.	
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it sems yall are nitpicking whats wrong on a Mechari reroll and play another race geez...But voices I do agree on 100%
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RIP medic PVP costume
 
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I like to think Mechari channel their inner Cody Lundin (formerly from the Dual Survival show) and just like it barefoot.  Kappa
 
That being said some models work on mechari, at least the ones I use and am happy with.  #bringbacksmellyfeet  (and yes I know they're robots, just roll with it)
			
				
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it sems yall are nitpicking whats wrong on a Mechari reroll and play another race geez...But voices I do agree on 100%
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please can we get a dev response on this? honestly i can only wear the medic raid gear costumes because of this & none in the shop work apart from the dread mantis set
 
if this is a so called 'feature' which i doubt, surely it should be turned off since that's the whole point of yano? the holo wardrobe? if people want to go barefoot it should be their choice, not forced upon the rest of us who want the full costume looking good	
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I would also like to add that I actually love the heel variations of the shoes. That is to say, when the original shoes are modified to look like they have heels, not mechari heel feet poking through them:
So if we ever ever get consistent coverage of feet, its a-ok with me if they have heels attached to them.	
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please can we get a dev response on this? honestly i can only wear the medic raid gear costumes because of this & none in the shop work apart from the dread mantis set
 
if this is a so called 'feature' which i doubt, surely it should be turned off since that's the whole point of yano? the holo wardrobe? if people want to go barefoot it should be their choice, not forced upon the rest of us who want the full costume looking good
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			The fact that the Mechari boots don't work on Mechari is either crappy, completely apathetic design work or truly brilliant trolling. 	
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			bump - please can this be made a choice via holowardrobe 	
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Devs: is the Mechari foot/shoe interaction something set by a parameter somewhere ("do not render below elevation X on Mechari") that could be queried to form a helpful list for players who want to plan outfits? Or is it just something about the art assets, and therefor not easily queried?
 
Edit: Come to think of it, there's a similar uncertainty about pants and tails - some outfits, like the Hazmat Suit, cover tails with material (making Aurin tails visually much thinner, presumably from all the fur being compressed), while others just let the tails poke through in their natural glory. I extend the question in the first paragraph of this post to the tail/pants interaction for Aurin and other tailed races.
			
				
	Edited April 30, 2016 by Ekzentric Lohner	
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			Can we also get voices? 
			
				
	Edited April 30, 2016 by Mental Surge	
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I completely support this idea!
Current boots (lack of them most of the time) ruin 95% of costumes.
 
Please let us have the boots, or add a holo-wardrobe option to cover feet.	
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RIP medic PVP costume
 
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I support shoes for Mechari, but the ultimate question is.... Do the rowsdower slippers show up? The idea of the a killer robot wearing slippers into battle would be awesome.
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@Bradleey, my day is now complete. Thank you!
 
But yeah, the boot model thing not working properly is an obvious concern to those that play Mechari. Though, I have to admit, those black heels and the entire outfit is pretty awesome.	
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Here you go :D
 
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Carbine please :angry:
 
I need my shoes *cupcake* it	
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			At least we'll be able to change to races that actually work soon.  Guessing that's the closest we'll get to a "fix"...	
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At least we'll be able to change to races that actually work soon.
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Wait. Race change confirmed?
 
(sorry for not being up-to-date with the latest buzz...)
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Yep, super confirmed.
Gonna cost service tokens.
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			i actually like the mechari race so i wouldn't be wasting money on a race change, they should fix this or enable us to overwrite it in the holo wardrobe, what pisses me off the most is there's been no response on here and frankly i'm on the verge of quiting this game and i've been a pvp player since beta so that says something	
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			Has anyone had the chance to experiment with redmoon raid boots? (preferably both male and female mechari since it can be inconsistent). I'll try it later tonight if no one has gotten to it by then. 	
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Update:
I can't actually show you a preview of every set of boots for every class because...
 
 
THEY'RE CLASS LOCKED.
/And/ none of them, not even the engi and medic ones, cover mechari feet. 	
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I'm shocked! Shocked, I tells ya!
 
God, those Medic and Stalker ones look even more atrocious than normal.  At least some boots aren't quite so obvious that part of them is missing, but on those it's extremely evident.
 
I know I've said before I don't understand why they keep implementing broken boots when they've added ones that actually work, but I really think it's especially inexcusable for what's going to be the most difficult content ever added to the game.  It'd be nice if Mechari players could go through RMT and feel like we could unlock a badass costume instead yet another one that ends up looking like crap due to some sort of bug/glitch that Carbine is never going to fix and apparently never going to take into consideration when they're designing gear.
			
				
	Edited May 28, 2016 by Cantatus	
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			Well I mean, they're never going to "fix" it because it's not a glitch, it's the intended design. If I recall correctly, most Mechari not liking to wear shoes is actually in the lore. Which doesn't make it a good design choice- but it is what it is.	
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Read the earlier comments in the thread.  To sum up: There's no evidence that this is an intended design choice backed by lore.  The closest thing that comes to that is the lore stating Mechari don't have to wear clothes (Millennials like Axis Pheydra don't) but it's stated most choose to as a way of fitting in.  Nowhere in the lore that I'm aware of does it say that Mechari specifically choose to not wear shoes, and the fact that many models work properly (eg Highwayman's Boots) doesn't support this being the case anyways.  If I recall, all of the GA/DS sets work properly on Mechari which is why it's so annoying to see that this wasn't taken into consideration when designing the RMT sets with them supposed to be much more difficult to obtain.
 
Not to mention, a lot of the frustration Mechari players have had over this is that the question as to whether or not this was a lore choice has been asked for over two years now without there ever being a response.  If it were, I think that would've been definitively cleared up a long time ago.
			
				
	Edited May 29, 2016 by Cantatus	
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there were a couple devs that said something along the lines of "mechari foot design damages footware" as the lore reason, but it is a really fragile justification. 
 the exiles can alter shoes to fit two-toed granok and long-footed aurin. the dominion has shoes that fit the clawed feet of draken and the thick-ankled chua. the dominion is probably brimming with tailors clever enough to alter shoes to fit mechari. 
ive stopped caring about the lore reason a long time ago. any time i hear a dev give a lore reason, it is full of holes and it just sounds like a thin veil for a bigger, technical mistake.	
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there were a couple devs that said something along the lines of "mechari foot design damages footware" as the lore reason, but it is a really fragile justification. 
 the exiles can alter shoes to fit two-toed granok and long-footed aurin. the dominion has shoes that fit the clawed feet of draken and the thick-ankled chua. the dominion is probably brimming with tailors clever enough to alter shoes to fit mechari. 
ive stopped caring about the lore reason a long time ago. any time i hear a dev give a lore reason, it is full of holes and it just sounds like a thin veil for a bigger, technical mistake.
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Update:
I can't actually show you a preview of every set of boots for every class because...
 
THEY'RE CLASS LOCKED.
/And/ none of them, not even the engi and medic ones, cover mechari feet. 
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			out of everything thing in this game, this issue is what really gets to me. I don't care if it's lore related because the point of making a character in a mmo is to customize it to how you want it to be. Not be overridden by some design choice which they have never commented on officially - take this post, it's been on the front page of the forums for months now with not even a single dev response, then some guy comes along and makes a post about a 2 year old bug which got a dev response straight away. I just get the feeling carbine are incapable of running this game and it really does show in places, for now i'm out i can't be bothered to support this game for the time being.	
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