Lutece

* See also Infinite BS
* See also Quantum_Hokem
* See also Quantum_Particles_Can_Do_Anything
* See also Elizabeth_Should_Have_Destroyed_The_Luteces
* See also Tear_Via_Machine
 
Oh, I tried to shoot them, and whack them. They do seem solid enough to block your movement in the Game.
=="Luteces" When Taken together.==
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Audio Diary : "Viewing the Infinite"
Rosalind Lutece : "When I was a girl, I dreamt of standing in a room looking at a girl who was and was not myself, who stood looking at another girl, who also was and was not myself. My mother took this for a nightmare. I saw it as the beginning of a career in physics."
Which might be a good 'lead in' to all the events of Infinite BS ( and BaSx ) being all Just a Dream ( of some ADAM_Addled Splicer in Rapture ) to explain all the wacky/magical/bad-fantasyQuantumz in the Infinite BS story creating Dimension gods is so far outside of anything "Science" and heads into Bad-Fantasyland... "Deus Ex Machina" (a godf intervening in a story) as a story/plot mechanics for a work that constantly utters/insists SCIENCE is an utter sellout, and a sign of inadequate writing skills. AGAINST PHYSICS operating within that game.
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What about Rosalind Confronting Her Alternate Self (Robert) ??? : 
Memories 'Merged' might get a bit weird for them - Oh I see, Rosalind just 'fixed it' so it didn't happen for THEM ... OR was it because it was done in the presence of the 'quantum-god-child' ??? ( Oops, happened years earlier ).
"Don't ever let inconsistency get in the way of the plot" - Kenny (from South Park)
"Just make up some shit, the tards wont know the difference anyway." - Karl La Fong
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The Infinitely Bored Luteces :
The story revolves around them.
The Luteces apparently are just playing a game ( 154 'Heads' ... ) while THEY are stuck in a "Groundhog Day" situation - wrapped/trapped around a tiny slice of the Continuum where the same stupid things happen, ad nauseum ... FOREVER. (( Robert gave up long ago and just started putting random numbers on his counting board in an attempt for some little amusement for THIS go-round. 154 is actually the number of time he's seen Booker's "Head" blown 'clean off' ... ))
Somewhere it was Mentioned, by someone, that Robert(Male) and Rosalind(Female) Lutece existed before Booker ever did his 'Baptism' thing, and thus it (the games context) really IS NOT the ONLY 'Quantumz' Timeline/Dimension/Event Decision Split involved in the story. A changed decision there would change alot, NO ?
So IF they DENY the whole 'infinite universes' aspect of that specific M-Worlds Quantum hypothesis ( being that it calls for near-infinite additional 'timelines' split off every femto-second with the interactions of countless quarks - not just by some supro-macro event like a 'baptism' ), THEN I point at the above story fact to blows away the Validly of the premise the writers use. It removes the game's own suggestion that 'undoing the baptism' will 'fix' anything. (( Perhaps if the Shooting part of the game was better story consistency would matter less ... ))
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Luteces Quantum Machine Started All This :
Engineering a way to access 'the Infinite' ... ( It is even a 'god making' machine !!! )
The problem with doing technical/sciencey stuff in a story is : You have to NOW have some consistency and adherence to natural laws IF you want it to be accepted by the audience properly. Science Fiction actually is ABOUT people's/characters interactions in Situations caused by some significant technology advance. THAT is why Sci-Fi authors usually try to STAY AWAY from real ( complicated/tedious/boring ) Science details/explanations ( they intentionally leave it vague ) - ESPECIALLY when the story employs made up (new) technologies for a "What If" plot. It would have helped for the writers to do THAT in this game. Worse - They (the company shills) constantly Hyped these allegedly scientifically-based aspects in all the endless official discussions/interviews made about the game.
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You Woulda thought Fink/Comstock woulda tidied this place up.
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The Luteces Were Killed By Fink Under Orders From Comstock :
The Luteces hear of Comstock's plans to destroy the parts of the Surface World Comstock sees as evil. Robert decides he cannot allow that, and he convinces his sister to assist in that being opposed. Comstock hears of that and decide they need to be eliminated.
In 1909 their Tear Machine is fatally sabotaged ( by Fink under orders from Comstock ), and so they were gone.
They then magically become some flavor of Dimension gods.
Note that they are no longer around to add any new scientific work or technical developments for Columbia from that point on.
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THE OBVIOUS SOLUTION :
Shouldn't Elizabeth have gone back in time to destroy THEM (the Luteces), as THEY were the Root cause of all the Evil ??? 
Weren't They ????   (( Hmmmm - Elizabeth weren't too smart, now were She ? ))
 Oops, that logical idea would have wiped out the whole 'dimensional god' Plot Crutch thing, and removed the lead-in to that BioShocky-Justifyin Rapture located DLC. WE Can't have that.
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Luteces : "Go get this girl. You are a thug, so guess what your gonna be doing ? Try not to do too much damage. Here's a sack." 
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Lutece's Faux-Science BS ( Might as Well Call It 'Skyantz' ) :
J. J. Thomson in 1897 discovers the electron. It is kinda hard to do all this "particle" stuff in 1892 or before when nobody else YET knows about even the basic ones, nor exist yet the tools needed for any such purposes. And Sorry, NO, the Luteces DID NOT previously discover them all by themselves ( and Oops, NO Tears so early to 'look' into the future to do the wonderous widgets ). So HOW could they proceed on to develop their 'Quantumz', and THEN go on to the far harder task of utilizing the 'Quantumz' for all the magical things they then do with them ( and THEN Engineer them into products and actual non-laboratory-trick working/rugged mechanisms -- something FAR harder ).
An Easy-Peasy solution ( If the writers had thought a little about it ) : Some Lutece from the future, or a far advanced timeline, visited and told them all about it and handed them the blueprints and a bag of components and a book : "How to Make Transdimensional Tears, for Morons", 3rd Edition. Once they then had their own 'Tears', they could then steal all the rest. BUT no writer effort seems to have been spent on any such cohesive story reasoning. Finding a crashed alien spacecraft is a tired cliche, but at least it is FAR MORE plausible.
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 "The Luteces Invented the Technology that Allows the City to Float - Quantum particles Suspended in 'Space Time' at a Fixed Height" ( Elizabeth rattles this gem off in the game )
Really ???
This 'Fixed' height is magically regulated ??? How ? SORRY WRITERS, IT IS NOT A 'FIXED POINT'. Columbia is NOT fixed in space, cuz the Earth rotates and goes round the Sun, Columbia moves, the Sun is moving at 514,495 mph through the Galaxy ( and the fricken galaxy is moving too ). THAT'S AT LEAST 4 different degrees of motion involved ( Ignoring Columbia itself moving around the World, and some pieces of Columbia moving around the Bigger chunks - Which they 'Make a Big Deal Of' showing to you within the game ). 
These 'Particles' are WHAT exactly so to make use of them ? Are they Embedded in the city ( everything hanging from Lunette Hooks everywhere ) ??? No explanation is give. The problem is obviously solved by 1893, so the theory became fact in just 3 short years.
How do you fasten anything to 'a particle' ??? It is Gobbledeegook BS Faux-Science buzzwords, mysterious enough to 'Players' so to sound all "Sciencey and Stuff". REALLY, it is not-well-thought-out Krap.
"Unicorn Tears" would ACTUALLY be a FAR more scientific explanation, than Levine & Co's over-explained (yet unexplained) Gorp.
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"Batshitarian Energy" ( A good SteamPunky name ) :
So what pair of tweezers did Rosalind Lutece use to hold/look at her first 'Particle' ?
Try hanging a automobile from a pair of tweezers - That's an example of 'FORCE' and 'MASS' ( You know those things in real Physics ) which gets exerted/exerted-upon to 'hold'/move things ( as in 'up' like Columbia ... )
Weird blue orb things ? ( Don't the mechanical Horse thingees have those too ? They don't fly, DO they ?? Pigeons are bad enough. ) They are something else ?? SO now some magic power source - is that blue glow Radium ?? Oh goodie, then radiation would be killing everyone ( except Columbia's racist Fake-Americans have supposedly been there for at least 7 years, no ? ) Hmm, maybe they really are those amazing 'Flavor Crystals' (Retsyn) they put in Certs Breath Mints ???
So these floaty "Particle's" otherwise will then have to be numerous and everywhere throughout Columbia and the attached to what ?? ( Not just the structural support, but some magic mechanism to 'power' and control them, or to 'sustain'/'stabilize' them, or whatever-something interfaced to the REAL WORLD bits of Columbia ).
Sorry this is like saying that technological marvel you probably have ( computer or smartphone/celphone ) is 'plugged into' a fireplace ( and Presto! it all seems to work ). Maybe Quantumz Particles are powered by "Presto! Logs" ????????? Yeah that sound logical, don't it ?
Once you realize things like this, you start to understand the problem with coupling Fantasy with Real World concepts and labels. ( Let's call it "Batshiterian Energy", and just avoid attempting to explain too much. )
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(Paraphrased :) "YOU HAVE TO LET YOURSELF BE KILLED SO THAT ELIZABETH CAN BECOME A GOOD PERSON" - Stupidest Game Scene Ever Award Winner ( in the DLC Derp Sub-category ) - AWARDED TO Burial At Sea
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TheRealVillains2.jpg|The Great Meddlers ... Better Plot ( at least for the DLC ) - Elizabeth finally figures out who the real cause of the whole tragic mess is.
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The Two Luteces are Existing in the Same Universe Simultaneously ????
Isn't that a bit contrary to the whole 'Merging' thing that has people rolling around on the ground with their brains flowing out of their ears ? That's something shown under similar circumstances ( some kind of BS dealing with 'Quantum Collapse", allegedly ) ... Booker himself should halfway through the game just be a puddle of protoplasm with all the 'dimensional crap' he goes through.
(( Sorry Kenny & Co, your shoddy attempt at Scientifi-cated Fantasy FAILS because of all your inconsistencies in applying your Faux-Physics ))
Please in future learn something about actual 'Science', if you persist further.
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See, THIS is a REAL 'particle' scientific research machine. It is likely that ALL of Columbia's combined power output ( wherever/whatever the unicorn-tear powered machinery THAT might come from ) wouldn't be enough to power something like this ( and even less likely for Rosalind Lutece to get a hold of/build such a machine - OR to afford OR to comprehend all the technologies involved ). Game writers can be such fricken lazy tards.
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Women manning machines in the Manhattan Project used to purify isotopes for the Atomic Bomb(s). Fine (and quick) adjustments were constantly required, and electronics/mechanical solutions capable of the task did not yet exist ( even with the mass of money and huge resources behind THAT project ). This is basically what such technology at Rapture's time was like. ( Important for the MMORPG (and any game) to NOT have things be too FAR 'Wave_of_the_hand' advanced for the setting. )
Rosalind manipulating 'particles' without even basic technologies being available ?? 
That is Ludicrous 'Faux-Science' storytelling. 
Infinite's Floating Class Warfare Dystopia setting mutated into Quantum Magicland where the writers pushed technology where it did not fit. Worse, they pushed the content to 'godhood' Fantasy, and took it out of the Player's human realm - making all the attempted Historic Relevancy totally irrelevant.
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Fun Facts (Real World) :
The Electron ( one of the most basic sub-atomic particles https://www.britannica.com/science/electron ) were not Identified until 1897. ( Note that in Real Physics : a 'particle' needs to have an electrical charge in order to experimentally 'manipulate' them. It likely is also required so to bind them to other matter so as to make the Floatyshit(tm) work in ant practical way. )
Infinite BS's Quantum Particles IS just alot of Wave of the Hand BS : When some GAME character is supposed to have discovered something which took MORE Decades and MULTIPLE Great Minds to not just theorize, but to experimentally prove ( Sequel-itus - Anything for a Buck ... Simply Put : Einstein and so many others SHAT bigger that this Feeb-Crap. ). 
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Arrogance ... :
Rosalind : "I had trapped the atom in mid-air. Colleagues called my Lutece Field 'quantum levitation,' but in fact it was nothing of the sort. Magicians levitate -- my atom simply failed to fall."
Define "levitation" : Something made to not fall that should when unsupported ...
So she is kind of muddled in the head. Probably the reason she teamed up with a Charlatan Cultist leader like Comstock.
I can just hear : "I didn't care about the stupid religion stuff - I just needed the CASH !! " - Rosalind Lutece
(( She IS alot like Tenenbaum, No ? BTW - How many puppies went thru her Tear Machine and had horrible things happen while she was attempting to make it work ?? WHAT ? - She Used Orphaned Children ?? This IS getting kinda sickening. ))
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No "Tear" Aging ? Who Else was Exposed to the dangerous machine more than the Luteces ??? Exposed to it while it is being developed, when all kinds of nasty accidents and malfunctions likely took place. IT IS Quite possible that in many of the Infinite alternate universes that Rosalind (and Robert) died prematurely due to malfunctions of their "Contraption" Tear Machine.. The MMORPG can have Contests for recreation of these "Misadventures of the Luteces" ... 
And shouldn't they have a rather severe 'MERGING' situation when Robert 'came through' ??? (( "Scrambled their Brains Says I. Spent 20 years in a mental asylum they did. Arrrrr, Me Matey, star-crossed they was." - Heard in the Pirate Universe ))
Consider also : the Luteces likely were near 30 years old in 1893, and by 1909 are nearing 50 years old ( and how people generally aged visibly 'far more' in those olden days ). This seemingly indicates some further wondrous magical properties of being the 'Dimension gods' the Luteces apparently became in the game story to appear so young.
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Luteces Ethics Issues :
"It would seem the universe does not like its peas mixed with its porridge." - Rosalind
Interpreted as something not being WHERE it is supposed to be ( as in dropped in another dimension ). But if it is a case of being Not-Like, then shouldn't it result in some messy explosion like the classic Sci-Fi scenario when two of the same person meet from parallel universes -- They cancel out each other, or some rubberband like snapping back of the continuum to its proper state ... ( or the 'Interdimensional Cops' showing up to put the Luteces in the pan-dimensional hoosegow for their criminal meddling ).
But then this IS Rosalind's theory. Rosalind Lutece doesn't seem to have done an experiment to try to support her theory ( She would mention that ? It IS what scientists do ... ) -OR- This whole story mess IS her experiment - playing with peoples' lives in multiple dimensions. Elizabeth seriously needed to go after the Luteces if she truly wants revenge for all her woes - instead of after Booker/Comstock who are just pawns. Do we really know whether the Luteces are psychotic/sociopaths who just like hurting people ??
They (Luteces) are the ones who let evil in one universe spill over into another -- They actually facilitate it as part of their 'mind experiment' - since it is 'real' ( Hmm, that's not exactly the right term anymore in such a twisted universe system ). Count 122 other Bookers yanked out of their own reality (so far) to be subjected to all the dangers possible in this Columbia environment ( too bad they didn't pop in and encounter the Spider Splicer Booker (sharpening his scythes) and not be quick enough to get away before he disemboweled them - that might teach them ... )
SO Blame the Luteces for the evil shit Comstock does - Yep he (Comstock) wouldn't be the tyrant he was without their facilitating him ( NOTE - The Battle of Wounded Knee happened in late 1890. Columbia's launch 1893 -- Hmmm, Kindof a short interval even for this game's flavor of absurd unreality. ).
As for Rosalind's theory (Hypothesis ?) - Theories are made to be revised, though she might not get much of a chance if some cataclysmic side-effect occurs which she didn't expect (and deserves). Perhaps she is responsible for interdimensional 'knots' forming, and entire universes being obliterated - Mass death being on HER hands. Does she even know a tiny fraction of the evil she has caused ??
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Merging happens. The game says it does. SO WHY for the two Lutece, when Robert comes through a Tear, NOT MERGE with Rosalind ??? Even fantasy fiction is supposed to be 'consistent with itself' - in its 'The Way Things Work' - in its story universe/cosmology.
 "Consistency gets discarded when it is in the way of a terrible writer's desired plot." - T S Eliot 
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Speculation/Hints About The Luteces :
A note found in the Lutece's lab, which highlights the Lighthouse and says : "The Only Obstacle", suggests that MAYBE it was THEY who killed the Lighthouse Keeper, in order for Booker to pass through unnoticed. Why they executed the man in such a manner is unknown, although the torture may have been a way for them to obtain the 'Ringing' order Code for the Bells for Booker.
Why kill the man when they (Luteces) are (allegedly) sufficiently clever to just get him out of the way and/or get the info to operate the 'Rocket' ( or simply Hack its operation ). Kind of Brutal - This act infers a thuggishness to the Luteces ( But but but ... Its "for a 'good cause' " ). If they could physically do that, why need Booker at all to "Grab the girl" ( Just get to Elizabeth in her Tower, Whack her over the head, Pop her in a sack, and away they go ... ) ??
The Luteces should be clever enough not to stoop to such bloodthirsty methods ( that is some brutal murder there -- which might actually scare this Booker away ???) Leave just a 'nice note' (and no corpse) saying '"Just tootle on the horn thing above with this pattern ( We've only heard it like 144 times before ... ) to get to the place you need to fulfill your mission ... There's a good Chap." 
Perhaps the murdered Lighthouse keeper was Comstock's doing ( Since he's seen this Lighthouse Guy help some assassins get to Columbia before ... in multiple Tear 'Prophecies'. But as many real science fiction writers have told us, trying to change future things doesn't always work out. ) 
Well, I suppose you could add "murderous thugs" to the Luteces description of being 'Arch Meddlers with Delusions of God-hood' ( Shouldn't the Luteces STILL be capable of being a bit more clever than that ???? OR RATHER THE GAME'S WRITERS BEING BETTER WRITERS TO SHOW ACTUAL CLEVERNESS ... )
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== 'Lutece' sounds a bit like 'Lutwidge' ... MAKES YOU THINK !! Woody Allen's Movie "Sleeper", Diana Keaton says " 'GOD' SPELLED BACKWARDS IS 'DOG' ... MAKES YOU THINK ..." *eye roll* by Woody's character ==
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Yes, Elizabeth learned lotz from reading Bookz. Without a human involved, exactly what kind of 'edumacation' would any person get ?? Sorry Kenny, being treated like an isolated lab rat as you grow really is not much of a way to create a normal person, or a 'Disney Princess' type character.
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BTW, 'Principles' for something incredibly Theoretical really is rather presumptuous  ( Lending more to the whole story world really being 'in the head' of Elizabeth 'the mental patient' sitting in that Asylum at Persephone ).
The DLC writers might have been trying to allude to it being somehow similar to Isaac Newton's "Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica" which was one of the greatest and most important works in all of Science.
Lutece 'publishing a book' for something that would be little more than a 'scientific paper' is a bit presumptuous also. I suppose Vanity Presses existed back then also, and there would be somewhere a garage full of this book - left over even after the author gave away every copy they could.
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Alternate universes were funny. Infinite they are, with so many similar but different things.
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