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AMK152
hello
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Muchacha
Hey Andrew
I came 30 minutes earlier thinking the meeting started at 3:00
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AMK152
ah
21 more minutes
how's it going?
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AMK152
hello
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SummerSpongefan20
hey
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AMK152
hello
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TrevorOntario719
hello
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Spike the Dragon
hi
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Tominator777
hi everyone
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AMK152
I wonder where everyone else is
Dragon's chat mod request was successful
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Tominator777
well, maybe their running late
or maybe busy with something
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AMK152
last time we had a meeting, we had like 3 or 4 more admins
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AMK152
wb
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Tominator777
hi Muchacha
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Muchacha
Heh
Heh
Hey
-_-
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AMK152
...
7 minutes
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Tominator777
slow day
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Tominator777
hi Tan
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AMK152
hello
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Itsshehahnbro
Hi
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Tominator777
hi Itsshehahnbro
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Itsshehahnbro
Hey
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Tanhamman
Hello, AMK, Tom, and Itsshehahnbro
Meeting in 5 min
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Itsshehahnbro
Hey Tanahamman
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Muchacha
Hey Tanner
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Tominator777
actaully, it's in 6 minutes
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Muchacha
Nope, 5
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Itsshehahnbro
5 minutes now
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Tanhamman
5, check you watch
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Tominator777
ok
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Tanhamman
(Who still uses a watch?)
Hi, Jacob, or Jake.
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Tominator777
my PC clock says 2:54
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Muchacha
Lots and lots of people
This is awkward.
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AMK152
...
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AMK152
so 4 minutes
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Itsshehahnbro
Now 3
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AMK152
I cannot believe we are down to 7 admins
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Tominator777
yeah
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Itsshehahnbro
Ya
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Tanhamman
Wow.
3:57
Muchacha
Well, look at SBFW
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Itsshehahnbro
K
3:57
Muchacha
They have 5 admins and 3 crats.
They seem to be doing OK
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Tominator777
even mean YouTubers Wiki had more admins, and that didn't have as much stuff as ESB
3:58
Tanhamman
AMK152, ZeoSpark, Spongebob456, JosephHawk, JCM, Nicko756, Tanhamman
Not a lot
But still, enough to hold down the fort
3:58
AMK152
yeah
but we want growth
3:58
Tominator777
i agree with Tan
yeah, this wiki needs some growth
this wiki as in ESB
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AMK152
the movie will bring more fans, and then new episodes should start up again
3:59
Tominator777
yeah
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Tanhamman
Yes
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AMK152
1 minutes
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Tanhamman
Is it true Yeti Krabs airs Nov 24?
3:59
Tominator777
maybe
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Tanhamman
I hope
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Itsshehahnbro
No
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Muchacha
7 adminsisn't something to worry about as long as there are good regular contributors
Right?
3:59
Itsshehahnbro
Now on wikipedia it says tba
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Tanhamman
True
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AMK152
15 seconds
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Tanhamman
5
Now! :D
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SummerSpongefan20
well, no, SBFW just has 7 admins, Muchacha
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AMK152
ok here we go
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Spike the Dragon
Yeti Crabs will air in 2044
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SummerSpongefan20
they haven't repromoted any crats yet
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Tanhamman
Right
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Itsshehahnbro
2044?!
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Tanhamman
Let's begin
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AMK152
1. SpongeBob Infinity 1a. Logo contest 1b. Status (Phase III) 1c. Calendar 1d. Newsletter 1e. Octerror Fest
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Tominator777
ok
4:00
AMK152
ok, Dylan and Nuggets are not here... I am not sure what is going on with SBI
4:00
Tanhamman
Ah well. I think we'll do fine
It's just you and me as the only Admins right now
4:01
AMK152
they have this Halloween events every year, Octerror fest.. I have not heard anything yet
4:01
Muchacha
I'll come to the Octerror fest
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AMK152
2. Fanonia SpongeBobia
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Muchacha
Where is it?
4:01
Tanhamman
Me either
It's still on, correct?
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AMK152
2a. Judges system
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AMK152
thoughts on this? I am trying to get the same 3 people to judge each fanon contest
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Tominator777
well
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Tanhamman
Sorry. Lags
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AMK152
no one seems to be judging
4:02
Tanhamman
Hm
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AMK152
just Joseph and Nicko
4:02
Tanhamman
I guess I could join
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4:02
Tominator777
i put a link on the Navbar for the Judge requests, and it doesn't seem to be linking correctly
4:02
AMK152
yeah, go to FSB and apply to be a judge
4:02
Tanhamman
Okay
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AMK152
I guess we just need more time
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Tanhamman
I'll try it right now
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AMK152
it will grow eventually
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Tominator777
ok
yeah
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AMK152
http://spongebobfanon.wikia.com/wiki/FSB:Judges
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Tanhamman
Yes
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AMK152
I guess it's a matter of getting the word out
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Tanhamman
I'm requesting as we do this
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AMK152
anyway, anyone can apply to be a judge
if a judge doesn't judge a contest, I ask the next person to do it until we have 3 of them
2b. End of MM&BB contest
like this one has 2 judges so far
2c. Halloween contest
there is a Halloween contest open. Check it out and participate if you want. Judging will begin in early November
2d. Message walls
next important thing
http://spongebobfanon.wikia.com/wiki/FSB:Discussions/Enable_message_walls
see that discussion
regarding message walls at FSB
4:04
Tominator777
yeah
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4:05
AMK152
this is what I said: at ESB, we have had issues where threads get overly quoted and threads have multiple topics listed. With talk pages, we have complete freedom to arrange conversations so they are organized. Message walls are just a mess and should have never been enabled at ESB, bu after 3 years it's too late. At FSB, it's not to late to stop a messy system of messages. It's also difficult to go back to old threads. If you click on an old thread, and then click out of it, it takes you back to the most recent conversations. It's all about keeping conversations organized. If a conversation contains multiple topics, we can actually separate them.
4:05
Tominator777
oh
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AMK152
it call comes down to organization of conversations
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AMK152
message walls make it look like a mess
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Tominator777
yeah
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AMK152
please take that into consideration and please participate in the discussion... it's very important for FSB
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Tanhamman
True
4:05
Itsshehahnbro
Has any1 created any episodes on SB Fanon
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Dragonballgtgoku
So they currently talk pages then?
4:06
AMK152
yes, there are many of them... check it out
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Dragonballgtgoku
*Currently use
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AMK152
http://spongebobfanon.wikia.com/
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AMK152
yes, we use talk pages at FSB
4:06
Dragonballgtgoku
Ok
4:06
Muchacha
I'm starting to feel funny, guys
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AMK152
and if you have yet to check it out, please do... we are trying to grow a fanon wiki on the SpongeBobia network
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Reggie01
okay
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Tanhamman
I've reqeusted for judge
4:07
AMK152
ok
3. Points system
3a. General ideas/thoughts
anyone have any ideas for SpongeTokens?
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AMK152
we do have a current discussion
http://spongebob.wikia.com/wiki/ESB:Discussions/Tasks_(revision_3)
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4:09
Tanhamman
Lags.
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AMK152
regarding point values
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Tanhamman
For the points. Like ESB leaderboard?
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AMK152
so particpate there if you have yet to do so
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Tanhamman
10, 50, 100, 250?
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AMK152
yes, SpongeTokens... any ideas?
4:09
Tominator777
yeah
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Tanhamman
That's mine.
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AMK152
what is "10, 50, 100, 250"?
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Tanhamman
Points. Perhaps.
I'm not sure exaclty how'd it go
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AMK152
http://spongebob.wikia.com/wiki/ESB:SpongeTokens
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Tanhamman
Like badges @ ESB.
Something similar
4:11
Dragonballgtgoku
You mean the value?
4:11
Tominator777
although the SpongeTokens opportunies are usually hogged by other users
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Tominator777
in the request area
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AMK152
just looking for ideas
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Tanhamman
Yes, the value. Thanks for clarification
4:11
AMK152
hogged? there are several open tasks: http://spongebob.wikia.com/wiki/ESB:Tasks
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Tanhamman
Heh.
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AMK152
and you get points for participating in contests and winning contests
4:12
Dragonballgtgoku
Gallery Tasks are off the board awhile after posted
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Reggie01
all the open tasks are a bit hard to do.
4:12
AMK152
like, not posted yet on the board?
4:13
Tanhamman
That's cuz they get harder and harder
4:13
Tominator777
i guess what the points (SpongeTokens) do is that you get credit for your contributions
4:13
Tanhamman
Many are finished, and were easyish
4:13
AMK152
sometimes there are easier tasks
it depends on what is on there
4:13
Reggie01
i'm not really interested in them anyways
4:13
AMK152
if you see a task that needs done, post it on there
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Dragonballgtgoku
The Gallery ones are...but they go pretty fast
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Tanhamman
They can shoot right by
4:13
AMK152
anyways, moving on...
4. Sockpuppetry case
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Muchacha
Guys, I feel guilty.
Is it okay if I return on the 1st?
 :)
4:14
AMK152
you can do whatever you want
4:14
Dragonballgtgoku
Of November?
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AMK152
here is the case: http://spongebob.wikia.com/wiki/ESB:Discussions/Auron~Guardian_sockpuppetry_case (part 2)
I know many of you have participated, but if you haven't, please do so
also, look at the reasons people put for things
I don't think Auron should be blocked from editing, because his edits are helpful... but say what you think there...
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Muchacha
Yeah, one week at the most
I'll vote later
4:16
AMK152
ok
4:16
Tanhamman
Darn freaking lags
4:16
Tominator777
although i heard Sockpuppeting is the "greatest offense" on wikia from a blog on CC
4:16
Tanhamman
I already voted.
4:16
AMK152
right now it's looking like 1 month
4:16
Tanhamman
well
He did bend/break the rules
4:16
AMK152
anyway, next topic
4:16
Tominator777
ok
4:17
Tanhamman
ok
4:17
AMK152
120d was never blocked... just demoted (yes, he was blocked later for another reason)
next topic...
5. Other titled roles (besides B'crat, admin, rollback, or chat mod)
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AMK152
we talked about this at the last meeting... about having "jobs" other than those listed
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Tominator777
hi 2567
4:17
Tanhamman
Yes
120d wants a "Grammar Police"
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AMK152
I haven't had any ideas in regards, but does anyone have any ideas?
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Reggie01
patroller
4:18
Tominator777
yeah
4:18
Muchacha
Wait, 120d's back?
4:18
Dragonballgtgoku
Grammar? That doesn't sound too good
4:18
Tanhamman
Sora
*sorta
4:18
AMK152
yes, then he has been blocked for 2 weeks
4:18
Tanhamman
He wants to literally go on patrol like BBPD, and find Grammar Mistakes, and ridicule the mistaker
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Tominator777
BBPD?
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AMK152
we cannot have that
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Spongebob2567
Hi
4:19
Tanhamman
I agree
4:19
Reggie01
i said Patroller
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Tanhamman
Bikini Bottom Police Dept.
4:19
AMK152
yeah Patroller
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Tanhamman
Okay. More details?
4:19
Dragonballgtgoku
Let me just take Alexandru. He doesn't live in a country where English is primary and so 120 would be on him a lot
4:19
AMK152
like Vandal Patroller or Quality Patroller, or both
4:20
Tominator777
although we already have vandal patroller
4:20
Tanhamman
Hm. Like Admin w/out Admin powers
4:20
SpongeOddFan
only JCM's here?
4:20
AMK152
as a designated title
4:20
Tanhamman
Okay
4:20
Tominator777
Vandal patroller aka Rollbacker
4:20
AMK152
people like titles
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Tanhamman
"vandal preventionist"
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AMK152
especially good if people don't think they are ready for admin
4:20
Reggie01
I seen a lot of wiksi with patrollers, its a 5th power
4:21
Tominator777
patrollers are also an old name for an old type of staff
4:21
AMK152
Patroller is a good name
4:21
JCM
i'm not really sure what the point of blocking auron from chatmod for six months is if you're also blocking him from admin for six months
4:21
Tanhamman
How about someone in chat who is a "Mediation" Person?
Well
That's a Chat Mod
SO never Minds
4:21
JCM
there's nothing stopping him from skipping chatmod and going straight into another admin request
4:21
SpongeOddFan
going along with JCM on this
4:21
AMK152
it can be both quality control and vandalism control
4:22
Tanhamman
True
4:22
AMK152
JCM: mention that on the thread
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Dragonballgtgoku
A lot of wikis also customize tags. Like a horror wiki has chat mod as "killer" or something
4:22
Tominator777
hi Trevor
4:22
Tanhamman
Wow
4:22
AMK152
yeah we did that with some tags
4:22
TrevorOntario719
hi tom
I got an idea for spongetokens
4:22
Dragonballgtgoku
Oh
4:22
Tominator777
like the blocked tag is "fired"
4:22
AMK152
sounds like Patroller might be a good idea, I will put something together
yes Trevor?
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TrevorOntario719
AMK PM
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AMK152
ok
4:24
SpongeOddFan
hey AMK, could you let me know if the meeting's over so i want chat with you & JCM only while everyone left, b/c i'm conisdering becoming chat mod in near future.
4:24
Tominator777
http://spongebob.wikia.com/wiki/ESB:Requests_for_chat_moderator
4:24
AMK152
next...
ok
6. Current discussions
6a. Remove administrator requirements
this one is popular...
4:25
Tominator777
yeah
4:25
AMK152
who would apply for admin if the requirements are removed (and it is likely they will)
4:25
Dragonballgtgoku
It's mainly supports
4:25
Tominator777
i would apply
4:25
AMK152
yeah
http://spongebob.wikia.com/wiki/ESB:Discussions/Remove_administrator_requirements
there is the discussion
4:26
Dragonballgtgoku
There is 1 or 2 Neutral
4:26
AMK152
cool
looks like that could pass early
like, 2moro
4:26
Tominator777
i agree Andrew
4:26
AMK152
anyway, a review of the ended discussions of the last 3 weeks:
7. Ended discussions 7a. Name the points system - SpongeTokens 7b. Fall 2014 background contest - Nicko756 7c. ChatPlugins (not passed) 7d. Time between admin requests (changed to 7 days)
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TrevorOntario719
So i had an idea for sponge tokens its a task for synopsis completion completing one for a short will be 75 pts for an episode will be 150 a double length episode will be 300 tv movie will be 600 and theatrical movies will be 1000
4:27
AMK152
we have had so many less discussins lately
4:27
Dragonballgtgoku
That's a lot of points isn't it?
4:27
Tominator777
yeah
oh
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4:27
AMK152
Trevor: good idea... we will also need to mention size
4:27
Dragonballgtgoku
The theatrical one is a lot of points though
4:28
Tanhamman
Lots of points. Many good ideas
4:28
Tominator777
UOTM is 2,000
4:28
AMK152
to have a very descriptive, detailed description of a film would take a lot of work
4:28
TrevorOntario719
its all 50% of the points for a transcript
4:29
AMK152
ah
4:29
Dragonballgtgoku
@AMK. Yeah True
4:29
Tominator777
but then again, transcripts are very small in needs for edits
4:29
AMK152
I was just going to check that
4:29
Reggie01
bye
4:29
TrevorOntario719
bye reggie
4:29
Tominator777
bye Reggie
4:29
AMK152
Tom: formatting a transcript correctly takes more work
4:29
TrevorOntario719
reggae
4:29
AMK152
rather than just typing up paragraphs
4:29
Tominator777
yeah
4:29
AMK152
I can make a proposal for that, Trevor
4:29
Dragonballgtgoku
Some people just copy and paste but change some stuff
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4:30
Dragonballgtgoku
Like the narrator scenes
4:30
TrevorOntario719
ok amk
4:30
TheCatThatTookMyFish
So what is this meeting about?
4:30
Tominator777
although some users have taken the contravial route with the transcripts
4:30
TrevorOntario719
idk...spongetokens and tasks?
4:30
AMK152
sometime we cannot tell
I will add size requirements for those synopsises
4:30
Tominator777
Jezz: it's about ideas for the wiki
4:31
TheCatThatTookMyFish
k
4:31
AMK152
ok, that is the end of the agenda... anyone have any other ideas?
4:31
Dragonballgtgoku
Yes but some find copying and pasting faster and more effective
4:31
AMK152
except for:
8. Project Cleanup: Characters 8a. Character infobox/show-hide (Option A)
4:31
Spongebob2567
I have an idea for Video Games pages...
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4:31
AMK152
but anyone can work on the show hide thing if they want
yes Sponge?
4:31
Tominator777
ok
4:32
Spongebob2567
My idea is to add reviews from youtube on the pages. something like that.
4:32
Tominator777
maybe have links to the videos
4:32
Dragonballgtgoku
Question: Are meetings every Sunday at 4pm EST?
4:32
Tominator777
every 2 weeks
4:33
AMK152
every other Sunday, Dragon
4:33
Dragonballgtgoku
Ok
4:33
AMK152
Sponge: some of us have considered adding episode reviews
4:33
Spongebob2567
We should do it.
4:34
AMK152
Tom... was it you who came up with the suggestion?
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4:34
AMK152
then I said something about a Reviewer's Academy?
4:34
Tominator777
yeah
4:34
AMK152
what about a reviews tab?
4:35
Tominator777
good idea Andrew
4:35
AMK152
like, we can have reviews from those at ESB, added to reviews from other sites (like YouTube?)
4:35
Spongebob2567
Thats what I was thinking.
4:35
Tominator777
maybe have a similar thing for the episodes and Characters as well
4:35
AMK152
I wouldn't say characters
4:35
Tominator777
ok
4:35
AMK152
I would say episodes, games, and books
4:35
Tominator777
 (y)
4:35
Spongebob2567
Yes
4:36
AMK152
we can have like a page with a form, and then you enter information to generate your review
then of course, external reviews
4:36
TrevorOntario719
I have an idea
4:36
AMK152
sounds awesome
4:36
Tanhamman
good idwa
4:36
Tominator777
 (y)
4:36
AMK152
I will draft a proposal
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4:37
Tominator777
ok
4:37
TrevorOntario719
lets have a fourm category devoted to making reviews
on esb
4:37
Muchacha
I was just on ESB. Just looking around.
4:37
AMK152
sounds good, Trevor
4:37
Muchacha
Retrospecting.
4:37
Spongebob2567
Thats is good.
4:38
AMK152
we could even have featured reviews... but later, once we get it established
awesome
anything else?
if you have yet to participate in any of the UOTM nominations, please do: http://spongebob.wikia.com/wiki/ESB:User_of_the_Month
4:39
Muchacha
test
4:40
Tominator777
here
4:40
Dragonballgtgoku
Ok
4:40
AMK152
anything else to add to the meeting before I summerize?
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4:41
Tominator777
Andrew, i do have a question i want to ask
4:41
SpongeOddFan
brb
4:41
AMK152
ok...
*1. SpongeBob Infinity stuff on hold *2. Encourage more judges at FSB *3. Message walls discussion at FSB needs input *4. Add a "Patroller" position (proposal to be drafted) *5. Add SpongeTokens for synopsis (proposal to be drafted) *6. ESB Reviewer's Academy proposal to be drafted *7. Reviews tab proposal to be drafted *8. Review board on forum to be created
4:41
Muchacha
AMK PM
4:41
AMK152
yes Tom?
4:42
Tominator777
in UOTM, are users that are nominated allowed to edit their own nomination page?
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4:42
Tanhamman
Not to their advantage
But I think they can
Like change spelling errors
4:42
AMK152
yes, for formatting, but not for voting or discussion
4:43
Tanhamman
Yep, I was right
4:43
Tominator777
ok
also, user of the month hasn't been updated since last tuesday
4:44
AMK152
not much participation
4:45
Tominator777
ok
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4:46
Dragonballgtgoku
On what UOTM
4:46
TrevorOntario719
Reviews tab?
4:47
AMK152
updated: http://spongebob.wikia.com/wiki/ESB:UOTM
tie between Nicko and SB456 for November right now
*November
http://spongebob.wikia.com/wiki/ESB:UOTM
4:47
TrevorOntario719
and what's patroller?
4:48
AMK152
a new position that might be created
more of a title than a power
4:48
TrevorOntario719
I want a MOAR Krabs emote in chat
4:49
Dragonballgtgoku
Why Moar krabs?
4:49
TrevorOntario719
because hes awesome
4:49
Dragonballgtgoku
.....
You know what he truly is,...
4:49
TrevorOntario719
uh no
4:50
Dragonballgtgoku
Hmm. I dunno how to say it
Hold on
Rollback basically
4:53
Tanhamman
The meeting is over, correct?