Point Of Infinity As Anchor (Creator)

-The only real Anchor is Point of Infinity.
>The mindset immediately create by realizing PoI is Creator TTB.
-Creator, as a concept, is designed (defined) to be about all of existence. 
-What should we be about? Everything. We should be open to all things. Because if anything is possible, only by being about all things can we hope to have our bases covered.
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-The minute you move away from this, you're into argumentation and the Endless-Questions.
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== Connectivity is Sum of all Anchors: ==
-Connectivity means including all truths, thus all anchors.
-Basically, the Point of Infinity.
-Connectivity means having a TTB that connects with all other truths, or as many as possible at least.
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*Connectivity Anchor and Point of Infinity are both really the same thing.
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== OH & NH Can Be Overcome, But They Still Matter: ==
-ONly-Half and No-Half can be overcome, to one extent or another, but they require lots of effort, and besides- the fact that they exist is itself pretty telling.
-OH and NH may be overcome for awhile, but they will keep coming back. Which is the lesser evil?
-Even if OH and NH can be overcome with Names or Aspects, they still represent the 'starting point' of or the natural starting point of both candidate TTBs.
-Oh an NH are the obvious to the mind truths concerning the two candidates based on personal experience. The minute you ove past them, you're into the Endless-Questions.
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== Point of Infinity as Anchor: ==
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-When you realize PoI, Creator TTB is the automatic and therefore natural conclusion of this mindset. Creator is defined as being about all things, the idea or concept behind Creator is the same behind Point of Infinity.
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-The minute you move away from PoI, you're into the endless questions!
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-Theist will claim it is itself that is the best for PoI, because God alone can be known; but this is wrong, PK is a thing but we have no idea what other truths God may teach us in the future!
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-Creator TTB / Point of Infinity mindset is a direct creation of Natural Theology. If it can be wrong, that blows the lid off of all Natural Theology!?
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-We can't know what's out there or what God will do: therefore, we must be open to studying or dedicating ourselves to anything and everything.
== But We Need God Specifically!: ==
-Any Need for God (Updates On God, Cosmic-Trickster, even The Darkness, etc.) could somehow be met by other actualized things out there. Otherwise there is something that doesn't exist!
-God is the primordial Creator and so is special to Creator TTB. But to fulfil Point of Infinity, we have to at least be ready and open to a truth that actually replaces God or even makes Him not want us to be Theist at all!?
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== Point of Infinity As The Will Of God!: ==
-Ditto.
-If the natural conclusion after looking out over infinity is to be open to all things including ways of being that have nothing to do with God; that is how God Himself set thing sup.
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-I know Theist will argue that all things connect with God, but you can't have Theist without God, and not being about God at all is practically being closed to a portion of A-Infinity.
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== Thought Experiment: Could God Makes Himself Irrelevent?: ==
-If not, OESDE.
-If He can, can we be 100% certain someday He won't enact that? No, we can't.
-Therefore, we must have a TTB that is open to that as well!
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== A Simple Question: ==
-Is it not possible that God could, somehow, change things so that all existential needs on Him are null and void?
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== A Specific TTB Will Always Invoke The Endless-Questions: ==
-Ditto.
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== Personhood: ==
-The kernel of Theist TTB is the question of "why not just be about God?" After all, He's the infinite being. Why not make Him the center of your Umbrella-Model?
>Because of Personhood.
>A person cannot be known. Concepts are clearly preferable to people because they are simple and can be concretely known. God is unknown, has allowed some evil in the past, and the exact level of intervention He exhibits is unknown.
>Personhood brings with it the baggage of the unknown.
>Theist will counter that we need to trust God and invoke Go-Negative/Protected-Knowledge. But isn't the reverse true? If we can't know the concept of Creator concretely, than can we honestly believe God protects knowledge enough for us to know Him or anything at all!?
== But Creator Makes Me Feel Distant From God!?: ==
-Creator TTB is defined as being about all of existence, A-Infinity. The Supreme is the king of existence!
>This gaurantees that Creator will always, inexorably entail God.
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== Why Not Just Be Theist?: ==
-Doesn't Theist just make sense? 
-Theist may seem obvious to the mind in face of the existence of a Supreme, but if anything is truly possible, then we can never be sure of Theist unless we know all things.
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== Against Umbrella-Model / PK: Past Experience Proves Multiple-Answers: ==
=== In The Past, Have You Asked God for Answers And Arrived At Different Answers: ===
-For the same question, have you received different answers, for whatever reason. Different times, different methods, etc.
>Yes!
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== Arguments from Human Condition: ==
-ie, "we can only trust knowledge through God.' This is the foundational idea behind all of Protected-Knowledge (PK).
-Arguing from Human Conditional Arguments doesn't stop Unknowability.
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== Sub-Definition: ==
-Creator has a SB that states it stands for the good in any potential scenario of overall-existence. So whatever is going on out there, Creator tries to find the good in that and stand for it.
-This is obvious to the mind when trying to be a Creator.
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== Strict PK Killed by Unknowability: ==
-General PK isn't touched by Unknowability and how much of God we don't know, but STrict PK certainly is.
-There will always be periods of doubt and darkness, you can't escape these.
-Creator may not escape periods of doubt either, but it least it has Sub-Definition.
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== Arrived At Error: ==
-God has allowed us to come to error in the past, even after prayer, confronting our biases, etc. I've spent years in the Shifting, begging for the truth, and have frequently come to different answers even in regard to the same question.
-Twenty years of the shifting alone should seriously put a wound in the side of Strict PK.
== Arguments for Strict PK Are Sophistry: Assume the Worst: ==
-There's no way you can know what goes on in the minds of others, but we should assume the worst, that people indeed seek God in earnestness and yet still arrive at imperfect or false ansswers, for whatever reason.
>The need for PK is not stultified by this, as we still have General PK!
-But remember, the nature of Infinity Theology demands that we operate on the assumption of assuming the worst!
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*Note: Asking God a question is never simple, you can never be sure when the question has been fully answered!
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== False-Theology Can't Be Explained Anyway: ==
-Theist will come up with all sorts of argument for why FT isn't true or is superceded by the need for PK (effectively ignoring the existence of General PK).
>FT is real and will always rear its head again, tearing a gapping wound in the side of Theist TTB.
-God let people spend their lives in religions that teach FT. 
=== Killing 'Bread Not Snakes': ===
-PK not strict enough for specific TTB that is Theist or needed by Umbrella-Model. 
>Strict PK is easily and immediately disproven.
>If true, whole world would believe the same.
>Also, God allows ppl to teach false theology. We could be living in sector of I finitu where a higher up has altered natural theology?!
-if anything is possible, TTB could be apart from Supreme.
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=== But Theist Is At Least A Part Of The True TTB: ===
-The idea that the Supreme is known to exist definitively and will always be needed is not true in the strictest sense, it is at least possible for God to create settings where He is neither needed nor wanted. And we cannot know all that God will do.
-To say that God cannot create such a setting is to say something cannot exist.
-Also, TTBs tend to be exclusive, which is why Adept doesn't last on its own. Why be Theist at all when Creator covers everything already and is more secure!?
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-There's also the basic problem of unknowability. Theist is a Specific TTB, and so much of God and everything else is unknown. It's far easier to just be Creator and be about all things.
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-The fact that Theist doesn't let you be in a setting where God is neither needed nor wanted is a violation of the concept of Infinity within Infinity Theology itself.
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-And there's still the problem of False-Theology, which, when it rears its ugly head, always introduces doubt into Theist.
>Contrary to the idea that at least God can be known to exist, the unknown still ruins Theist. Theist just isn't the kind of TTB that works with unknowability, unlike Creator.
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-EVen if the Supreme exists, Theist may not be needed, or even be a hindrance somehow. Anything is possible, and so we must have a TTB structured in definition to be open to all things. Theist can't be that.
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-Even if the Supreme does exist, perhaps the Supreme for whatever reason doesn't want us to relly upon Him exclusively or even that much? If that were so, and it is definitely possible (paganism often adopts this view, then Theist is not only not possible but an outright hindrance despite God being real!
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=== False-Theology > The Darkness: ===
-Theist will try and use The Darkness to scare ppl back into its fold, but that doesn't change the fact that False-Theology does exist, and we can't know how much of it we have.
-And who knows what else God might teach us someday? Theist isn't open to everything! At least not like Creator is!
-Strict PK, ironically, leads back to the Darkness because it opens up the reality that not all theology is correct. Scary stuff.
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-Theist is instantly torn apart by FT.
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-The idea that we have to trust that God has given us the mainstay stuff, the 'important' stuff, doesn't answer the question that what counts as important now always will. God may yet reveal radical truths in the future that shift the truth away from Theist, all without disproving anything we hold to now.
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-The object of Theist is distant and mostly unknowable, but the object(s) of Creator are immediate.
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-What, exactly, constitutes "important stuff" is a bit fuzzy in real life.
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=== The Urge to Trust God: ===
-Trutsting in God is good, but False-Theology is a thing and has been proven beyond doubt. Remember that.
-REmember General PK as well.
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-The Urge to Trust God must be weighed against hard life lessons, like leaving Catholicism, learning that the Trinity and Jesus were false, etc.
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-God does not want an intense, personal relationship with us; He wants a distant one.
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=== It's Proven Fact That God Allows False-Teachers, Our Current NT Could Be Flawed: ===
-If some 'higherup' altered Natural Theology, than Inf. Theology could be off. 
-We still trust that God is good and is acting to guide us, but He hasn't corrected us just yet.
-Christianity teaches Jesus as God, Islam teaches he wasn't. They can't both be right.
>Once you acknowledge this, the rest of Strict PK and Theist comes tumbling down.
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=== Doesn't General PK Lead To The Darkness?: ===
-No, General PK is about balance. God still has to be good, but He does allow people to pursue their own ends, as per their own liberty. Some people will choose to be evil and spread false teachings.
-General PK still holds that God is guiding us, but He is forever adding more truth and correcting us. It's an on-going process.
-There's also the notion that God allows falsehood but only within paramters. But this still kills Strict PK and we do not know the exact paramters or percentage of False-Theology allowed.
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=== Can General PK Stand Against The Darkness!?: ===
-Yes, The Darkness is killed by INd. which General PK can totally endorse because Ind. is obvious and immediate to us.
-We've done it before as Creator TTB!
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=== Active-God Refuted: ===
-For practical reasons, Active-God as a principle put forward by Theist advocates that Go is relatively immediate in guiding us through life towards correct theology.
-There were times in the past when I sought verification for Christianity (Jesus as literally God) and seemed to get verification.
-Other people have reported visions and miracles that seemingly confirm Jesus as God? Other religions do for their own unique founding figures.
-The idea that God is immediately correct us and guiding us to answer is proven false by my own tale of 22+ years to get to the bottom of Inf. theology!
-We don't know how long it usually takes for God to correct us. We may be corrected of a wrong TTB after death, it would still let God be guiding us but our lifework would be to a wrong TTB!
-If God leads us to specific answers in a timely manner, why do some Deists spend their lives advocating for an infinite deity and others for a finite one!?
-The fact that Deists spend their lives in different camps that advocate for very different theology really puts paid to the principle of Active-God put forward by Theist. Return to General PK.
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=== STrict PK CAn't Differentiate Between Minor Errors and Stuff We Need: ===
-The Great Hope (aka, General PK) advocates for the idea that higher powers, whatever they may be, may allow small errors but not the big, important stuff that we need. 
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=== Backup Plan: ===
-In the event that STrict PK is proven definitely wrong, Theist has nothing and breaks into oblivion, but at least Creator recongizes that whatever is going on, we were dedicated to it somehow? 
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=== Active-God Refuted By My Own Past: ===
-I have asked the same theological questions at various times and seemed to get different answers. I have also spent years in service to a tribe I now know to be false, at times seeming to get confirmation of that tribe's faith from somewhere. 
>This also raises the question, if I have received a wrong answer before temporarily, what if Theist is built upon an answer God hasn't corrected yet? How do I know His timetable for such things?
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=== You Need Strict PK to Fight Darkness, But Strict PK Demands AotAI: ===
-All you need to beat The Darkness is INd. which proves infinite creator and thus Supreme Being. A Supreme Being would be beyond the need for any kind of evil and has already created a universe for us. 
-It's true that you need very strict PK, but not so strict that you know for sure it's only theist. Creator can also be said to be about God, and since A-Ideal makes God the fullness of existence (Creator is defined as being about existence), ergo both Creator and Theist are principally about God.
-There's also the issue of even Natural Theology being susceptible to False-Theology. God allows lesser beings to knowingly profess falsehoods. If we live in a universe governed by lesser being who can determine the nature of our cosmos, they could have intentionally made changes to natural theology that is false and God simply hasn't corrected it yet? 
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=== Kreator Can Have Ind.: ===
-Creator is Theist with a Backup Plan for Just In Case.
-Creator TTB is about all things, including God, so in that it does fulfill Aim of the A-Ideal. But if God wants us to be about Him, it is also a part of wisdom to have a backup plan. That, too, is from God. Thus, God would surely undertand staying Creator instead of going strict Theist.
-Temperance: Ind. proves a Creator who is guiding us, but False-Theology is also real and beyond doubt. We need a TTB that takes both into account.
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-It's also pretty obvious that God, or whoever is in charge, hasn't told us everything yet. So declaring an absolute TTB to have been ordered by God via NAtural Theology is the height of arrogance and stupidity.
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-The idea that Creator causes you to slip away from Ind. or otherwise doubt it are in error. Natural Theology already contains within itself hte obvious truth that God hasn't revealed all of His truths to us, thus justifying Creator's stance of staying open to everything.
>Ironically, it's God's capacity for anything that ultimately dictates Point of Infinity.
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=== False-Theology Kills Theist: Can Stand With Ind. Against The Darkness: ===
-FT still has something of Protected-Knowledge, as well as Great Hope.
-We still have Ind. thanks to its Immediacy. False-Theology is real because God is distant and murky, but Ind. is right here in front of us!
-We need PK, but FT is also real beyond question, you need Temperance, to accept both!
-What PK does for Theist, GH does for Creator!
-Aim of the A-Ideal only posits that God is prinicpally about Himself. Creator is about existence, which only God truly is, so Creator is also AotAI by being about The Creator and His Creations!
-Creator has all the certainy of Theist, fulfills Natural-Theology's take on what God wants, and also comes with a backup plan just in case. So why not?
-God has already rocked our idea of Him before, such as when I left Catholicism; so there's no argument that God doesn't want to shock us with theological upheavals. He's willing to rock our worldview.
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-The problem for Kreator as of late is uncertainty. FT kills Theist, but the Darkness is still a problem.
>Ind. alone kills The Darkness.
>Ind. immune to False-Theology because it has Immediacy. It's right there in front of us!
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-But doesn't Natural Theology posit God wants us to be Theist!? = No, because even with Ind. it is obvious that we don't know everything about God or other potential higher powers. Ind. never claimed to give you all truth, just some. Some of that un-revealed truth may yet unseat Theist as the chosen TTB of the Divine!
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-Kreator with Ind. is basically the theological backbone of our ancient ancestors, those countless generations of pagans who came before.
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=== Upheavals of Theology: ===
-God has allowed our undestanding of Him to be vastly changed in the past, such as leaving Christianity. What guarantee is there that such upheavels will not happen again, even with due diligence on our part?
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-It is true that the Trinity might still reflect some great truth of God, but it is also true that Islam specifically teaches against it. So no matter how you look at it, a major world religion is theolgical inocrrent and yet these people are not corrected of their error?
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-This does not affect Ind. which is needed to combat The Darkness because Ind. has immediacy. It is right there and can be examined and known.
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-Even if God has led us to perfect truth, and our understanding of Him right now is 100% true, how do you know further truths revealed about Him won't change our undestanding of Him or what He wants? What real guarantee is there?
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-The idea that Creator makes you not care about God is false. God is distant and vague, it is natural to regard our perception of Him as secondary to what we know concretely not out of disrespect but because our perception of Him can change.
>Besides, as The Supreme, He is The Creator, for He is in charge of all of existence, and thus de facto the head of all Creating everywhere!!!
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-The fact that there is any FAlse-Theology at all, even if minimal, now introduces doubt into the equation for Theist TTB.
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-People have had some wildly different ideas of what God is, and even more of what He wants. Given that, can we truly trust that our understanding of Him wanting Theist specifically is thus true beyond all doubt?
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-The Catholics believe God wants eucharist and absolvement through a priest, Protestants through faith alone, islam through servitude to their specific traidtions, etc. God allows people to believe wildly different versions of what He wants. Ergo, there is no real PK that we have arrived at Theist TTB on God's intention.
>And some of these people report miracles which confirm their religious tradition's idea of what specifically God wants!
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-It is also true that Creator can be said to fulfill Aim of the A-Ideal.
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-False-Theology is real, and you can't bury it simply by wielding the fear of The Darkness as Theist TTB. Temprance demands both FT and PK be taken into account. Creator TTB can do that.
>God guides us to truth, but He is forever adding more truth to us. We must trust in Him, but also remain open to all things, because we cannot know what He may yet teach further.
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-Perhaps God also wants us to remain open to other things so that we love them and not hate them? That is a valid example of a truth that enforces Creator TTB, even if Aim of the A-Ideal is also 100% true!
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-As long as there is further truth to be revealed by God, we must remain open to all things.
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=== Only Ind. Needed To Beat The Darkness, then Creator Finishes Off Theist: ===
-All we need to defeat the Darkness is INd. which has Immediacy. 1st Hand Knowledge might be this ideas weakspot, but its a necessary risk. Despite, immediacy of the mind!
-False-Theology, not knowing all of God's motivations and Truths-Unrevealed kill Theist.
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=== Theist Is Brittle: ===
-Brittle. 
-Theist is living in constant fear that you're gonna finally stumble across that example of False-Theology that finally breaks your veneer of infallibility and leave you in The Darkness.
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=== Bad-Management Argument: ===
>God takes time to correct, it took me years to leave the church.
>We only need Ind. to beat The Darkness.
>If the RC can lead me astray for many years, influencing my perception, cannot a higher being of our particular sector?
=== Kreator Also Fulfills Aim of the A-Ideal: ===
-Kreator is defined as being about existence. God alone is supposed to be true existence. 
=== False-Theology Needs To Kill Theist Without Letting In Darkness: ===
=== Upheavals of Theology: ===
>they've happened before!!!
>God allowed me to live in a false religion for years before I wisened up and moved away from it. How can I be sure I'm not doing so again? 
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=== We Don't Know All Natural-Theology Out There: ===
-There must be an infinite number of further truths out there that if actualized would shift away from Theist even if Aim of the A-Ideal and all attending truths are 100% actualized. OESDE. 
>Arguing that God must lead us directly to truth immediately completely ignores the state of the world and its many competing religions. Or of the years of uncertainty, mixed messages and the lengths of time I spent in what I now consider to be a false religion.
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=== Why Not Just Be Theist?: ===
-God is The Supreme, is it not obvious to the mind to be about Him alone?
>We don't know all that is going on out there. We don't know all truth. We don't even know most of what God exists as, or what it is He wants or values. And in the sea of infinity, there must be an infinite number of potential reasons against Theist, or OESDE. 
>No one wants to dedicate what could be there only life to a TTB only to be wrong about it. That right there is sufficient reason to reject Theist.
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=== We Need More Than Ind. ===
>Ind. is still vulnerable without other truths, which we must trust God has brought us to lasting truth after seeking it.
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=== We Need God To Lead Us To Exact Truth: ===
-Without the assurance that God leads to exact truth, lasting truth, how do you know something else won't eventually be revealed that invalidates Indivisability!?
-Even if Ind. has immediacy, there are an infinite amount of other truths out there that could cap it or somehow reintroduce The Darkness.
>This is because Ind. was never meant to beat The Darkness apart and separate from PK. The two go hand-in-hand and both are needed to beat The Darkness.
-Even if the immediacy of Ind. protects it from doubt, it could still introduce other horrors?
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-There are other horrors besides the finiteness of The Darkness. To combat them, we need other answers beyond Ind., and we need strict PK to enforce them so they have substance.
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-Ind. answers the question of finiteness and the existence of a Supreme, but there are other questions out there we need answered too. Like is there anything good at all out there or wil all things eventually end, etc.
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-If God took years to get me out of Catholicism, maybe He's taking years to get me out of Ind. as well! This is the problem with Kreator and its handicapped PK system.
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-Remember, no matter what else, there are other vital questions (ie, foundational truths) besides Inf. and the question of finiteness. We need a Theistic Supreme to guide us to real and lasting truths.
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-There's also the Fear of God, not wanting to anger The Supreme by not following the TTB that He wants.
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=== Freewill-Issue: ===
-God,being sentient and therefore possessing free-will,is active and anytime a change come sin our lives that looks ominous, we fear He will let us down or otherwise prove Theist wrong. This becomes emotionally draining.
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=== Refuting Theistic Supreme (AotAI): ===
-Theist makes us slavish owards the subject ofGod, have to embrace all theistic religions.
-As Creator, I can treat God honestly and openly.
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=== Live-Once: ===
-While the idea of Aim of the A-Ideal and relying on PK seems ari-tight intellectually, the reality is that (if this is the only life we get) I don't want to spend it dedicating myself to a TTB that turns out to be false.
-You can still be about God as Kreator, be about God as the center of all things, as He should be. But there's not need to put all your proverbial eggs in one basket like that.
-Creator TTB strives to be about all things. In case Theist or strict PK doesn't work out, you can still fall back on other things and still be Kreator.
-And, yes, Only-Half can indeed be overcome by rerouting through Destroyer. It's been done.
-The lesson of having all your eggs in one basket is wisdom which also comes from God.
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=== False-Theology Tempered With Ind. ===
-This kills Theist for sure.
-STrict PK would result in a world with uniform religion, and I wouldn't spend 20+ years searching for proper TTB.
-FT kills Theist but also opens door for The Darkness, which is why tempering it with Ind. shuts that down.
-Ind. shows that there must be an infinite being, has immediacy,and that this inf. being is most liekly beyond any desire for evil. While it doesn't gaurantee we live in strict pk, higher up beings are less likely to want to deceive us for the simple reason they have no reason to.
-FT with Ind. doesn't open the door to Darkness because we still know there is a Supreme(s) out there. We just don't know much about them or what precisely their operating motives are.
-This is another weak spot for Theist, AotAI might be true, but what else is also true out there?
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=== Eggs-N-Basket: ===
-Not only can you be about multiple things as Kreator, you really should. This is wisdom and obvious to the mind. 
>You can be about God as the center of all things as Kreator! But limiting yourself to one thing means risking wasting your life's magnum opus.
-Arguing that Creator is only about the object of itself is stupid because a.) there are an infinite variations of creator ttb and b.) creator is structurally defined as being about all objects of existence.
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=== Need 2 Decentralize Kills Theist: ===
-Real easo for Theist is ease of one working psuedonym.
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Eggs-N-Basket:
Point of Infinity
Lived-Once
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== UM Beats PoI: Battle for PK Finished: ==
-Any TTB has an infinite amount of ways it can go wrong, including Creator/Point of Infinity!
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-General PK inevitably degenerates into Maltheism, because if God isn't good enought o let us have lasting answers, can He really be said to care about us?
>General PK might state that God lets error within parameters, but at some point, being so hands-off starts to look unethical for God. Just saying.
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-Without strictness to PK, doubt will keep getting in and ruining your TTB.
-No matter how you structure its definition, any TTB has an infinite number of potential ways to Go-Negative, OESDE.
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-Thanks to Ind., we know a Supreme does exist, and no matter reality setting we find ourselves in, the Supreme must be paid attention to simply because He is the Supreme and thus the head-honcho. Ergo, that part of Infinity Theology can be known for certain because its all right there in front of us!
>Theist TTB thus can be known to forever be needed, thus being God's chosen TTB or at least a part of it.
>Even if The Supreme created a reality where *somehow* He didn't need to be paid attention to, how could you be sure it would never change? Only if you knew ll things, and maybe not even then!?
-Besides, it is already established that only The Supreme can defeat The Darkness.
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