Report 1016

Report #1016
Skillset: Tarot Skill: Moon
 Org: Nihilists Status: Completed Jan 2013
Furies' Decision:
Solution 3 for 2p.
Problem: Moon tarot is an ability which, when flung at a target, afflicts them
randomly with one of the following: dizziness, confusion, stupidity, hypersomnia
or amnesia. Three out of five of those afflictions are useful, that being
confusion stupidity and dizziness, however hypersomnia and amnesia really dont
do anything useful. On a 3.5s balance (neutral balance), not only is the list of
afflictions mediocre, moon tarot can 'overlap' afflictions, e.i it will
sometimes afflict the target with nothing because it probably tried affliction
the target with an affliction they already had. Let's face it, theres no reason
to use this ability unless you are an illuminati, and even so, they probably
have much better mental affliction abilities they could rather be using.
Nihilists/Celestines are based on timing and combos, and basing a combo off a
random moon tarot fling with a random affliction isn't really a feasible tactic
one would use. I'd like to see this ability changed from worthless to useful.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #1: Keep dizziness, stupidity and confusion in the list
 of afflictions moon tarot can give, and replace
 hypersomnia and amnesia with recklessness and
 epilepsy. Also, allow it so that one may choose the
 affliction to be cast on the target via FLING MOON AT
 <target> <affliction>. If no affliction is specified,
 the affliction chosen will be random. Remove the
 ability for moon tarot to "overlap" afflictions if
 moon is being thrown to randomly afflict.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #2: Change moon tarot to afflict passively. How it will
 work is, once flung at the target, in ten seconds it
 will afflict with confusion, then after another 10
 seconds, with dizziness, and the last time it will
 strike will be ten seconds after with stupidity.
 There should be 3rd person messages for when the
 target is afflicted.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #3: Remove moon tarot from the list of cards used by
 Enigma. Change moon tarot to afflict with confusion,
 dizziness and stupidity at once, for 1p. If stupidity
 feels to be too powerful in this 3 affliction
 ability, I am also proposing: SOLUTION 4 -
 Confusion/Dizziness/Paranoia or SOLUTION 5 -
 Confusion/Dizziness/Masochism.
Player Comments:
---[Thoros on 1/2 @ 16:14 writes]:
I am in support for solution 1.
---[Shuyin on 1/2 @ 19:49 writes]:
What we could also do is replace hypersomnia/amnesia with what you suggested
-and- make it so you can fling a specific moon card as well. (FLING MOON AT
TARGET (affliction)). This suggestion is more tame since you can't do a bunch of
affs at once or continually afflict, but it also gives you more control over
your affs. Else I'm down with solution 1.
---[Aeden on 1/2 @ 20:55 writes]:
I agree with Shuyin's suggestion to be specific yes, but I do like Solution 1 or
two as well.
---[Rivius on 1/2 @ 22:41 writes]:
I think asking for all the afflictions to be useful -and- asking for a 50/50
chance to double afflict might be slightly much. I would support a modified
solution 1 where the afflictions are switched as suggested and the chance to
overlap is removed. I also like solution 2 quite a lot.
---[Celina on 1/2 @ 23:38 writes]:
Solution 1 without the chance to double afflict. It's the one weakness in tarot,
that it can't afflict as well as hexes or other terts. Two, namely with
confusion, meshes too well with Nihilists. Smart afflictions that won't overlap
is fine.
---[Llandros on 1/3 @ 15:05 writes]:
I like the ideas here and would like to see a buff to buff moon, including 1
with no double aff but you can pick the one you want. If 2 suffers from
excessive synergy then you could swap confusion for hypochondria, which would be
better so they won't all have a focus mind cure.
---[Thoros on 1/3 @ 15:52 writes]:
Solution 1 changed to how Shuyin described. Still in support for solution 1.
---[Celina on 1/4 @ 07:54 writes]:
Solution 1 minus epilepsy supported. Could become too much of an issue with
Nihilists. I think that sort of offense needs to be left with hexes. Tarot
retains too much utility and defensive skills to allow masked style afflictions
that mesh so well with kill methods.
---[Rastor on 1/6 @ 22:47 writes]:
I would approve an amendment of the affliction list, although the ability to
choose 1 of 5 afflictions is giving the equivalent in Hexen of 5 separate skills
within a single skill. Solution 2 is a considerable acceleration of strength of
attack attack - but seems acceptable of the affliction is chosen at random,
solution 3 is just too powerful an attack
---[Thoros on 1/17 @ 17:19 writes]:
What do you mean by that sort of offense needs to be left with hexes? Moon tarot
right now is useless in its current form and the afflictions it offers are
useless as well, minus stupidity, with how it works (3.5s balance neutral for 1
random focus mind curable affliction) This change wont offer an entire skillsets
worth of afflictions to choose from but just a small handful placed in one
skill. I like solution 1 and I believe this will be a well balanced change to a
skill that has been the same since the beginning, a skill that was just a ripoff
fromthe other IRE games that share tarot skillset and moon skill, and is way
outdated. I still, for some reason, like how solution 2 would work, for in the
hands of a bard, celestine, or nihilist, this can be a very good change and an
excellent addition to their offense and how it's currently set up.
---[Thoros on 1/17 @ 17:20 writes]:
With that said, I'm still in high support for solution 1, and solution 2 however
I'm leaning more towards solution 1 with being the most balanced/feasible
change.
---[Llandros on 1/18 @ 01:48 writes]:
Nihilists can already give Epilepsy, not sure how putting it with this mix would
push it over the top