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Read what you just wrote, compare your complaint about others behavior with your own (especially toward the end of your post), reflect on how criticism of the game is received versus how you, the other guy in this thread, and your dozen or so steady posters are received, notice the difference between hyperbole and concrete suggestions, step away from the computer and get more life experience, and come back when you are ready to contribute to a community.
 
Hint - if you use words like white knight, you're the cause of the toxic community. There are changes I'd like to see made, but if you actually believe the game is as poorly designed as you say it is, why are you wasting time raging about it here? I'd only spend time on something I thought was mostly good and could be improved, so, I don't really understand the mindset.
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You use hyperbole way to often friend, not sure you understand the meaning. As far as the rest of whatever you were trying to say. I've made concrete suggestions, 
 
Hint - I've been called black knight for posting concrete suggestions. I've never once raged here. Itemization on gear is garbage there are more who agree with this than disagree.
 
 
 
Right, cause you have all the facts? You know something here no one else does? No, you're just making assumptions or speculations. Just like anyone else, we can only guess and what is really going to happen. All I say is what I see in game, and on the forums. Pointing out issues or problems with the game, any game isn't being negative. It's a forum that's what people are supposed to do here. I've seen many well written well thought out threads deleted, because the same few ...and yes going to call them white knights, have flamed it and trolled it. Mods closed it down. Then those same few white knights that just flamed and trolled start a troll thread mocking the people who are voicing opinions / concerns, suggestions, whatever, and a mod leaves a reply and leaves it open.
 
So am I toxic....,I don't think so /shrug who knows honestly who cares? I just respond as I've been responded to.
 
Your logic is flawed btw. 
 
I love Rum. Dark spicy Rum to be exact. Yet I don't want to drink it everyday. Doesn't mean I like the Rum any less.
 
Making a complaint, giving a opinion, making a suggestion etc etc isn't bashing a game. It's people who bought and are currently paying to play voicing their feelings. Once again that is what the forums are for. Whether you agree or not isn't a reason to sit there like the proverberly father finger, shaking your finger at them, saying think as we think or we'll cupcake*ing spank you. Practice what ya preach bud.
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I started reading your post, and you seemed to have some valid points in the first paragraph. Then it descended into utter drivel, so we can't believe anything you say. Shame.
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You use hyperbole way to often friend, not sure you understand the meaning. As far as the rest of whatever you were trying to say. I've made concrete suggestions, 
 
Hint - I've been called black knight for posting concrete suggestions. I've never once raged here. Itemization on gear is garbage there are more who agree with this than disagree.
 
 
 
Right, cause you have all the facts? You know something here no one else does? No, you're just making assumptions or speculations. Just like anyone else, we can only guess and what is really going to happen. All I say is what I see in game, and on the forums. Pointing out issues or problems with the game, any game isn't being negative. It's a forum that's what people are supposed to do here. I've seen many well written well thought out threads deleted, because the same few ...and yes going to call them white knights, have flamed it and trolled it. Mods closed it down. Then those same few white knights that just flamed and trolled start a troll thread mocking the people who are voicing opinions / concerns, suggestions, whatever, and a mod leaves a reply and leaves it open.
 
 
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Lastly the community here, my god people talk about the toxic community in league or dota.... they should come here. These forums are like the Mos Eisley Cantina of forums trolls, never have I seen such a wretched hive of scum and villianary  and the plain idioticness of the white knights is simply stunning.
 
My opinion is this, Carbine doomed itself when saying they made a game for hardcores. Hardcore players only make a very small percentage, I'm talking miniscule here, of any mmo's player base.
 
All they've done with this is created a game with  a crap ton of bugs despite 10 years of development and beta testing, extremely poor designs to crafting, loot itemization, and a extreme overuse of RNG.
Riddled with terrible choices from the dev's that are punishing to the vast majority of the players. Now these supposed hardcore players who I'm 98% possitive most don't even understand what whadcore even means, thinks despite being the extreme minority of the player base, that this game is only for them and they alone can carry the game.
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Its weird, Carbine has said that their servers have a higher capacity than other MMOs, but honestly even the "Medium" population servers feel almost completely empty. Compare that to your typical WoW "Medium" pop server and it the difference is day and night, you actually see tons of people in WoW in both the Capital City and everywhere in all the areas of the MoP.
 
I think that Carbine has ninja-lowered the cap on the Servers and now "Medium" population actually is "Low". What does everyone else think?	
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			some server were never "alive" Orasis Dominion is dead... there are 0 guilds that can raid... that is why my sub is not canceled. i am not paying them EXTRA money just so i can move my character so i can play the game.	
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... that is why my sub is not canceled.
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you are not crazy, its just you feel entitled, pay up or stick it out, if it is really bad then they will merge the servers or give you a free xfer if you guild is so good you can just play with them why would you need more people?!
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 The population does feel a bit low atm.. im not even really pushing recruitment since zone chats are near dead most of the time. But i come from a game that was struggling so im used to it and have the patience to wait things out to see how they pan out. But i do hope things turn for the better in the end this is a gem of a game with a ton of potential to be a massive success.. despite its short commings which are things that carbine can fix over time.
 
I think developers need to step back and realize that sometimes its the simplest of things that get players hooked to a game for the long term. their housing system is one of them they just need more potatoes to make some chilli fries...	
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			Avatus is alive and well. 	
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Compare that to your typical WoW "Medium" pop server and it the difference is day and night, you actually see tons of people in WoW in both the Capital City and everywhere in all the areas of the MoP.
 
I think that Carbine has ninja-lowered the cap on the Servers and now "Medium" population actually is "Low". What does everyone else think?
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			I recently got promoted at my job (go me!) and ive had little, very little video game time.  I play from around 11:30 at night to 2am if im capable and on the weekends if I can run away from reality.  Normally im a hardcore gamer.  Im a huge GW2 player, I still am, but I love mmos and im always looking for another juicy one to get into.  I actually really liked FF14 but decided not to get the sub and wait for Wild Star.  Im starting to think I made a mistake.  Im not actually sure what server im on ( I can check if anyone cares ) but im dominion and man is my server absolutely dead.  no one responds on Zone chat.  Im only level 16 and illium has close to no one in it.  For such] gigantic maps it feels strange to be alone all the time.  Im not even sure if my server has guilds.  The lack of population is killing any motivation I have to play this, I just pop GW2 on and do the living story with my guild.  Again, I really like this game but I may not renew my sub im really not sure.	
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Its weird, Carbine has said that their servers have a higher capacity than other MMOs, but honestly even the "Medium" population servers feel almost completely empty. Compare that to your typical WoW "Medium" pop server and it the difference is day and night, you actually see tons of people in WoW in both the Capital City and everywhere in all the areas of the MoP.
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You have to pay 20 dollars to leave your dead server though. It isn't really an option if you're in a dedicated guild and they're not leaving.
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Mmm maybe the best course of action would be to do what Blizzard is doing and instead of actually condensing servers, do the "connected realm" system that allows people to keep names bound to their server without the mess of mergers and condensing/collapsing servers and instead causes players across the game to 'share' zones as the population in a zone or area hits a certain lower number.
 
In the evenings (NA), many of the servers do come to life, but I can definitely see where others probably don't. This is the problem with MMO's launching without mega-servers, and I really wish more games would evolve their server technology to avoid these problems because I honestly believe that when populations decrease in subscription games, it is a domino effect and people start quitting because there's nobody to play with and they either can't or don't want to shell out the money to transfer even if they could. Connected/Shared Realms!	
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 The population does feel a bit low atm.. im not even really pushing recruitment since zone chats are near dead most of the time. But i come from a game that was struggling so im used to it and have the patience to wait things out to see how they pan out. But i do hope things turn for the better in the end this is a gem of a game with a ton of potential to be a massive success.. despite its short commings which are things that carbine can fix over time.
 
I think developers need to step back and realize that sometimes its the simplest of things that get players hooked to a game for the long term. their housing system is one of them they just need more potatoes to make some chilli fries...
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It's called Tuesday in the middle of a work day.
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Hehe, I giggle every time I see "people at work" or "not prime time" or other long laundry list of excuses.  As has been pointed out, not everybody works the same shift, not everybody has the same prime-time... especially considering, most servers cover a wide-range, like US covers all US timezones.  I think about the many "reasons" people toss out there when in Realm Reborn... they actually have their servers broken down even more, to where they have east coast and west coast, etc... tons of servers... and no matter what time of day I login, even at oddball hours right before or after noon time, middle of the night, mid-day, "prime time", etc... there's always lots of people... heck, there's tons at "prime time" and on weekends.  If one isn't careful with the settings they have for how many users to show on screen, it can actually bog ones rig down.  Some servers even have specific time-frames during the day where only in those brackets can you make new characters... probably either due to popularity or perhaps the fact they want to monitor the names of created characters as they're being made, perhaps both... but it's "hardcore" regardless.
 
The other "reason" I love is supposedly "these are super-servers, so low is actually medium in any other game"... whatever they is, tumbleweeds blowing through capitol cities is tumbleweeds blowing through capitol cities.  Even more funny if one recalls the original launch when there was tremendous queues... people shouted for increased server-capacities... and don't recall that ever being pointed out as happening... was even pointed out by the devs that it'd be easier to make new servers than add servers to existing clusters.  So interesting that supposedly it's a "super-capacity limit" when as far as most know, pretty certain, that was never on the drawing-board. :ph34r:
 
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I recently got promoted at my job (go me!) and ive had little, very little video game time.  I play from around 11:30 at night to 2am if im capable and on the weekends if I can run away from reality.  Normally im a hardcore gamer.  Im a huge GW2 player, I still am, but I love mmos and im always looking for another juicy one to get into.  I actually really liked FF14 but decided not to get the sub and wait for Wild Star.  Im starting to think I made a mistake.  Im not actually sure what server im on ( I can check if anyone cares ) but im dominion and man is my server absolutely dead.  no one responds on Zone chat.  Im only level 16 and illium has close to no one in it.  For such] gigantic maps it feels strange to be alone all the time.  Im not even sure if my server has guilds.  The lack of population is killing any motivation I have to play this, I just pop GW2 on and do the living story with my guild.  Again, I really like this game but I may not renew my sub im really not sure.
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I don't know, I don't have this experience at all.  I was off work all last week and played Wildstar for over 40 hours and I was never alone.  Guild mates are on, people always around in quest areas, lots and lots of Exiles (I'm Dom).  Last night was no exception, were tripping over each other.  If it helps, I'm now level 42 and just completed Wilderun zone.
 
I can tell you that a friend I play the game with also had friends on Rowsdower and a few of them transferred to our server (Orias) to join us. 
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You can put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig.
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Hehe, I giggle every time I see "people at work" or "not prime time" or other long laundry list of excuses.  As has been pointed out, not everybody works the same shift, not everybody has the same prime-time... especially considering, most servers cover a wide-range, like US covers all US timezones.  I think about the many "reasons" people toss out there when in Realm Reborn... they actually have their servers broken down even more, to where they have east coast and west coast, etc... tons of servers... and no matter what time of day I login, even at oddball hours right before or after noon time, middle of the night, mid-day, "prime time", etc... there's always lots of people... heck, there's tons at "prime time" and on weekends.  If one isn't careful with the settings they have for how many users to show on screen, it can actually bog ones rig down.  Some servers even have specific time-frames during the day where only in those brackets can you make new characters... probably either due to popularity or perhaps the fact they want to monitor the names of created characters as they're being made, perhaps both... but it's "hardcore" regardless.
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You can put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig.
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I don't care what word appears in the server list for my servers.  All I know is that all the guilds to which I belong (save 1) are no longer raid-viable.  No one is logging on.
 
During primetime EST (or PST as I can be on in both in the evenings), I never see more than 5 or 6 level 50's (or their alts).
 
Gone is gone.  Don't care why.  It's not really important (to us at least for this discussion).
 
Friend list is dark.  Guilds are dark.  Housing chat is either dark, telling Chuck Norris jokes, or circle ads.  Cities are painfully low populated.  Zone chat is down to asking for help with group quests.
 
I play both Ex and Dom.  Not a faction issue.
 
Sure...may be servers out there that everyone went to (re-rolling or paying).  But the 3 I'm on?  You can almost hear the rowsdowers passing gas clear across the zone.
 
Heck there's not enough people running around to put up the settler kiosks any more.
 
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So I hear TERA has a combat system a lot like W*?	
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