115807-carbine-release-drop-3-this-tuesday

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Game will have no one left if you wait till mid November.
 
Take everything you have that's ready, and release it this Tuesday	
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			According to our Community reps none of it is ready since they're not actually holding anything back to increase the size of the Drop for public promotion reasons. 3,000 bug fixes will all come to fruition the same week by pure happenstance.	
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			lol!	
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			Drop 3 an 4 have been merged from other reports.  This drop is not ready.  They have stated that they are concentrating on bug fixes and megaservers.  I applaud them for taking a stance on QA and not the cries of the forums.	
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Drop 3 an 4 have been merged from other reports.  This drop is not ready.  They have stated that they are concentrating on bug fixes and megaservers.  I applaud them for taking a stance on QA and not the cries of the forums.
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			It seems from the way I divine the posts that what you mentioned MAY be released via weekly patches in the ramp up to first the release of megaservers and then the release of the combined drop 3/4.  My opinion is that this is a more prudent course of action IF it rights the Wildstar Ship.	
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AS the above poster mentioned, are you stating that all 3000 bugs + rune and PvP changes plus everything else, will be magically ready for release at the same time? Or do you think that perhaps, maybe the rune system is ready, or the pvp changes are ready.. but Carbine is intentionally holding them back?
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			from what i took of various interviews and releases is what will be released early already has been.From what I know of most companies standard routine of spin and lieswhat they've been saying can pretty much be translated to "We're trying to put together a relaunch campaign to compete with warlord's of draenor"why they would want to do something like that over continuous tested small patches to stop the bleed-out is beyond me thoughThey went through all the trouble changing over PTR to be a mirror of live that they can test patches on freely and accurately see how they will behave when applied then immediately proceeded to do next to nothing with it	
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why they would want to do something like that over continuous tested small patches to stop the bleed-out is beyond me though
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			well nothing gonna stop em from merging drop 3/4 with drop 5 in early November :D	
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They've stated before and in the Twitch shows, especially the one where Frost announced he was leaving that the drop will not happen in conjunction with megaserver.
 
Megaserver first, then the drop from what I've seen/heard them say directly.	
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			Release drop when ready....not sooner.	
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well nothing gonna stop em from merging drop 3/4 with drop 5 in early November :D
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They've stated before and in the Twitch shows, especially the one where Frost announced he was leaving that the drop will not happen in conjunction with megaserver.
 
Megaserver first, then the drop from what I've seen/heard them say directly.
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			So...why Tuesday?	
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			patience is the key. I rather wait till january and play other games in the meantime than dealing with another fully bugged version of  new released content. Releasing drop 3/4 this or upcoming tuesday would be a real bad decision.	
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			Well let's put it this way, we should have had the Megaservers by now I think if you regard their 3-6 weeks statement. Megaservers will most likely come before Drop 3 and I'm not being too optimistic that Drop 3 will come early/mid November, it's probably more like end of November if we are lucky.	
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Raine... Quit Wildstar and the forums, this Tuesday
 
Game will have no one left if you keep whining until November.	
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AS the above poster mentioned, are you stating that all 3000 bugs + rune and PvP changes plus everything else, will be magically ready for release at the same time? Or do you think that perhaps, maybe the rune system is ready, or the pvp changes are ready.. but Carbine is intentionally holding them back?
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			Something needs to be done, and FAST.  For every new player, ten leave.  There are only a couple thousand players left...  lets reverse this Carbine.  I have hope you can do it!	
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Well let's put it this way, we should have had the Megaservers by now I think if you regard their 3-6 weeks statement. Megaservers will most likely come before Drop 3 and I'm not being too optimistic that Drop 3 will come early/mid November, it's probably more like end of November if we are lucky.
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Something needs to be done, and FAST.  For every new player, ten leave.  There are only a couple thousand players left...  lets reverse this Carbine.  I have hope you can do it!
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I would wager most of the Carbine folks enjoy the holiday season, and will be spending time with their families.  I highly doubt they are going to release the sweeping changes of a drop 3/4 combined mega-patch anywhere near Thanksgiving.  I would say they either get it out Early to Mid November, which seems increasingly unlikely at this point, or sometime in Early December.  Also remember they canned all the holiday things, which is a good bet they don't have any extra time sitting around.
 
Given that they also seem perfectly fine cramming drops together, the earlier poster that mentioned a 3/4/5 megadrop I am sure is not out of the question either at this point.
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I'm not sure about you guys, but I don't think I'll be expecting the drop to be pushed back to next year because they haven't put it out in mid October.
 
Deep breaths people.	
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assumptions wont get us anywhere. Even if your numbers would be correct, pushing the release of not finished content would lead to even more unsatisfied customers new and old and that's defiantly something carbine can't afford at the moment.
 
In every game you have people leaving and coming back due to whatever reasons. Nothing new and this can be fixed when the actual game is stabilized and offers customers a satisfying experience compared to having file a bug report or support ticket every 5 minutes. Long term is what counts and not short irrational decision because the player base pushed you into this.
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I'm not sure about you guys, but I don't think I'll be expecting the drop to be pushed back to next year because they haven't put it out in mid October.
 
Deep breaths people.
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My version of realism looks pretty pessimistic to many, but I'm with Vic on this one: Drop 3-and-a-half will hit before Thanksgiving (and by "Thanksgiving" I actually mean "Black Friday") even if it has to come in buggy as a result. There is no way that Carbine gets to float past its first holiday sales season without at least trying. If they don't... I have little doubt NCsoft will tell them not to bother coming back from their end of year break.
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Sorry OP, but it ain't gonna happen. :(
We know folks want content sooner, and we'd love to oblige but it's still being worked on, tweaked, improved, and rigorously tested. We want to be sure that when it lands, it's as solid as we can get it.
 
The drop will come when the drop is ready. We can't do any sooner than that.	
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Half a pizza is still half a pizza.  If you are hungry you can deal with that problem, but no pizza at all sends you across the street to another pizza parlor. 
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So next time you want half a pizza because you're hungry now, ask them to stop making the whole pizza and just give you half right away.
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At some point you have to accept that the broken game systems around runes and gear itemization, which were acknowledged to be broken many months ago, cannot just sit around till they can be polished to a glossy finish...  This claim that unless it is flawless people will hate it irritates the heck out of me...
 
Many people would love to see the new rune addition slots item start dropping from end dungeons bosses today, even if they cannot be used for another month (looking at you Eldan Timber that STILL drops from crafting bags and does nothing).  Many people would love if items dropped today would come with the proper number of rune slots, even if the rune stat changes and rune combinations don't make it. 
 
Raiders are already looking at needing dozens of the rune slot addition items to just "fix" their gear... and every item they get until drop 3 is in the same boat.  Is it that hard to imagine that people are unhappy with knowing their items are dropping worse than they will be in some arbitrary time frame in the future?  And that is all completely ignoring the itemization overhaul that is likely to obsolete current raiding gear. 
 
Half a pizza is still half a pizza.  If you are hungry you can deal with that problem, but no pizza at all sends you across the street to another pizza parlor. 
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So next time you want half a pizza because you're hungry now, ask them to stop making the whole pizza and just give you half right away.
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Oh you got me!!! Such a snappy response to my food metaphor. I should be more careful when selecting them. Clearly my point was that making a pizza is the same as video game development, and not that prioritizing a mega-patch in place of fixing the core game systems first and foremost is the biggest concern.
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			It's okay. It's not like any other major releases are happening in November to hinder their success *cough* Warlords of Draenor, Dragon Age, or Shadows of Mordor. *cough* It's totally cool guys. We'll be fine I swear	
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			I'd love it to come sooner then later like I think anyone else would, but if it causes me to crash to desktop loading my house upon logging in again like what happened for a few hours after Sabotage, then I can wait. 	
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The only update I want ASAP is the increase to decor limits in housing. This is completely separate from most of the game's systems, and shouldn't be held back because more complicated coding requires extensive QA. I mean, increasing their limits, after testing to ensure it doesn't destroy performance, shouldn't require much QA at all. In my mind (which is an ignorant mind like many others) these increases should be as simple as changing one value with another.
 
That said, it might be thought unfair if they released stuff for one group of players but not the others. And I do believe they're packaging all of this stuff together to create the semblance of a relaunch. I understand the move and if it's better for the health of the game overall, good on them. But if they push the drop back again, if it turns into "late November or early December", a LOT of people are going to be not annoyed, not frustrated, but straight-up pissed. It makes no difference that Carbine warned they might do this, that they reserved the right to delay again. People will still be raging, some of the patient folks will break, and it'll be bad, bad, bad.
 
On a positive note, I think they've handled the megaserver announcement well, giving us a bunch of free boomboxes and a free day of game time. They understand principle matters— let's see if they can back that up with stable timelines, and if the playerbase can demonstrate good will to keep the mood positive.	
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So next time you want half a pizza because you're hungry now, ask them to stop making the whole pizza and just give you half right away.
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Game will have no one left if you wait till mid November.
 
Take everything you have that's ready, and release it this Tuesday
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Oh you got me!!! Such a snappy response to my food metaphor. I should be more careful when selecting them. Clearly my point was that making a pizza is the same as video game development, and not that prioritizing a mega-patch in place of fixing the core game systems first and foremost is the biggest concern.
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AS the above poster mentioned, are you stating that all 3000 bugs + rune and PvP changes plus everything else, will be magically ready for release at the same time? Or do you think that perhaps, maybe the rune system is ready, or the pvp changes are ready.. but Carbine is intentionally holding them back?
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AS the above poster mentioned, are you stating that all 3000 bugs + rune and PvP changes plus everything else, will be magically ready for release at the same time? Or do you think that perhaps, maybe the rune system is ready, or the pvp changes are ready.. but Carbine is intentionally holding them back?
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AS the above poster mentioned, are you stating that all 3000 bugs + rune and PvP changes plus everything else, will be magically ready for release at the same time? Or do you think that perhaps, maybe the rune system is ready, or the pvp changes are ready.. but Carbine is intentionally holding them back?
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			I'll still be playing so... Guess the Wildstar population will be at least 1. 	
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Something needs to be done, and FAST.  For every new player, ten leave.  There are only a couple thousand players left...  lets reverse this Carbine.  I have hope you can do it!
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			I don't know what their problem is.  I have a drop ready every single morning......	
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