Operation Showtime/Transcript

: Kathy: There's a helicopter!
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: David: Get all the women and children upstairs right now. Go on.
: Steve: I got to go find Judy.
: David: Go, Cyrus.
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: Rachel: All right, everybody, in your rooms! Let's go. In your room.
: Jaydean: What's going on?
: Rachel: Just get back in your room.
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: Brad: (hands out guns) Here.
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: Jaydean: Sit down. I need you to hold your brother. Hold your brother and stay down, okay?
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: David: Listen up. No one do anything stupid. I'm gonna go out there, talk to them, work this out. All right? Go on.
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: ATF agents: Go, go, go, go!
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: David: All right. (opens door, steps outside) Whoa, whoa, whoa. Calm down! Please, stop!
: Wiggins: Get your hands in the air and get on the ground!
: David: There are women and children in here!
: Wiggins: Get on the ground, now.
: ATF agent: Look out! Shots fired! Shots fired!
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: Sheila: Jamie, get down!
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: Steve: David!
: Perry: Davey, get Wayne.
: Davey: Dad!
: Steve: Come here, come here.
: David: Call for help. Call for help. Lock the doors.
: Steve: Go, go!
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: Wayne: Fuck.
: 911 operator: 911. What is your emergency?
: Wayne: There are 75 ATF agents around our building and they're shooting at us! At Mr. Carmel!
: 911 operator: Mt. Carmel?
: Wayne: Tell them there's women... there's women and children in here and to call it off!
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: Kathy: Judy, help me! I can't get this mattress off!
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: Wiggins: Commence the dynamic entry. Secure the gun room!
: ATF agents: Go, go, go, go, go!
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: Woman: Sheriff. Sheriff! There's somebody on the phone. They're saying they're shooting at Mt. Carmel.
: Sheriff Harwell: This is Sheriff Harwell.
: Wayne: Sheriff, it's Wayne Martin!
: Sheriff Harwell: Wayne.
: Wayne: ATF are shooting at us! We got women and children in danger.
: Sheriff Harwell: Wayne!
: Wayne: Tell them to pull back! Tell them to call it off!
: Sheriff Harwell: Get the ATF on the line.
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: ATF agent: Throw it in.
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: Woman: I have ATF headquarters. They are saying that their agents on the ground did not bring communications.
: Sheriff Harwell: What?
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: Steve: I'm going to go check on Wayne.
: David: Go.
: Steve: You okay?
: David: Go.
: Steve: Okay. I'll be right back.
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: Steve: You tell them to stop firing?
: Wayne: Yeah, but they can't get through!
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: Kathy: You guys okay? Is everybody okay?
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: ATF agent: Hey, camera guy! You got a phone?
: Derek Ludlow: In my van.
: ATF agent: Go get help!
: Derek Ludlow: Me? You didn't bring a phone?
: ATF agent: Just go call for help!
: Derek Ludlow: Oh, sh...
: ATF agent: Go!
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: Derek Ludlow: Agh! Okay.
: ATF agent: Go!
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: Steve: David! Get down! Get down! Down, down!
: Wayne: Sheriff!
: David: Steve. It's happening. The Fifth Seal... it's opening.
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: Woman: Sheriff, I have someone from ATF.
: Sheriff Harwell: Give me that. This is Sheriff Harwell. I need you to stop shooting right now.
: Derek Ludlow: No, no, no, no, no. You don't understand. I'm just a cameraman.
: Sheriff Harwell: Listen, I don't give a cow's ball who you are. You tell the ATF to stop shooting.
: Derek Ludlow: All right. Yeah. Okay. Cease fire! Cease fire! Cease fire! Cease fire! Cease fire!
: Sheriff Harwell: Wayne, I got the ATF on the other line. I told them to cease fire.
: Wayne: Cease fire! Cease... cease fire! We have a cease fire! Cease fire!
: Steve: Cease fire! Cease fire!
: Wayne: Dave...
: Steve: Cease fire!
: Wayne: Dave?
: Steve: Cease fire! Cease fire!
: David: No...
: Steve: Cease fire!
: Wiggins: Hold your fire! Cease fire!
: ATF agents: Cease fire! Hold your fire! Cease fire! Cease fire!
: Derek Ludlow: All right.
: ATF agents: Medic! Fall back! All teams, fall back. Give me that.
: Derek Ludlow: Hey! Whoa! Come on! Careful, man! Hey! You asked me to be here!
: Vazquez: How's he doing? He's still got a pulse. Help me. Put him on the hood. Come on. Come on, hurry. Hang on.
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: Mitch: Hey.
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: Steve: Sheila? Yours okay? Is anyone hurt? You guys okay? Everybody alright?
: Rachel: Yeah.
: Steve: Catherine... You okay? Leona, where's your mommy?
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: Kathy: I'm okay.
: Steve: Hey, you guys alright? Oh, my god, Mayanah!
: Judy: She's alright.
: Steve: What? Judy, you're shot.
: Judy: No. How could they do this? Why would they do this?
: Steve: David was right. They'll do anything to keep the truth from getting out.
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: Sheriff Harwell: David, what the hell happened?
: David: They just started shooting at us.
: Sheriff Harwell: How bad is it?
: David: I ain't going to lie. It's not good. Do you know if any of them were killed? They didn't look too hot.
: Sheriff Harwell: Your boys did kill some.
: David: This is their fault. We're not the bad guys here.
: Sheriff Harwell: David, how many casualties have you got? David, you there?
: David: God is on His throne looking down on us right now.
: Sheriff Harwell: David, how many casualties do you...
: David: When it says in Revelation 22... "behold, I come quickly. My reward is with Me..." What reward did Christ receive in heaven from the Father?
: Sheriff Harwell: I don't know.
: David: The Seven Seals, Jack.
: Sheriff Harwell: David, we have all the time in the world to talk theology. What I want to talk about right now is resolving this thing peacefully and getting you the help you need.
: David: That's what you don't understand. We don't have all the time in the world. It's begun.
: Sheriff Harwell: What's begun?
: David: I got to go.
: Sheriff Harwell: No, David, hang on.
: David: You want to talk to me? You go out there, you find someone who understands.
: Sheriff Harwell: Understands what?
: David: Understands what just happened.
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: Balenda: Hello? Hi. No. No, I haven't seen it. Okay, I'm going to turn on the TV.
: Reporter: A deadly shootout broke out as ATF agents descended on a compound occupied by a religious cult to serve a search warrant. At least four ATF agents are presumed...
: Balenda: Oh my god, Karen.
: Reporter: ...and many more wounded...
: Balenda: My son is in that building.
: Reporter: ...and the ATF is ongoing...
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: David: Who?
: Steve: Winston. Peter Hipsman. Jaydean. They're dead. No one knows where Gent is. Then there's you, Judy, Perry. You're all wounded really bad.
: David: I'll be just fine. What about the children?
: Steve: None of them are hurt.
: David: Thank God.
: Steve: We should figure out a way to get the three of you to a hospital as soon as possible.
: David: You think we can just leave? We shot and killed the law.
: Steve: Yeah, but they shot first.
: David: That doesn't matter.
: Steve: Well, then I'll call Harwell. I'll tell him to send the paramedics. We know that he's on our side.
: David: No one's on our side!
: Wayne: Look, I'm with Dave on this. Till we figure out what the heck is going on, we can't let anyone in here.
: Steve: That's easy for you to say, Wayne. Your wife's not the one with bullet holes in her.
: Thibodeau: David, Perry's in bad shape. We need you.
: Steve: David, please. Let me call the paramedics, have Harwell bring them in.
: David: Everyone just stop! Stop! I can't concentrate with all this talking. Get out! Get out! You, too. Go!
: Rachel: David, I have...
: David: Go! Damn it!
: Voicemail: Hey, it's Bonnie Sue. Leave a message. (beeps)
: David: (sniffles) Mama? They shot me. (pants) I think I'm dying. Say hi to Grandma for me. And I'll be back real soon. Okay? And... I'm sorry you didn't learn the Seven Seals. But I will. I'll show... I will show you mercy. And God will show you mercy, too, okay? And I'll see y'all up in the skies. I love you.
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: ATF agent: The road's closed.
: Mike: I got to get through. My wife and kids are in there.
: ATF agent: Can't let you in. Move along. Move it along. Let's go.
: Mike: Yes, sir.
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: Rachel: Daddy, we have to keep a little pressure on here right now, okay?
: David: How you doing?
: Perry: Ain't going to lie to you. It... it hurts real bad. I... I don't know how much more I can take.
: David: I have to figure a few things out. I want you to hang in there for us. Okay? Okay?
: Perry: Okay. Okay. Okay.
: Thibodeau: Is that Mike?
: Michelle: Kathy! Kathy! Kathy, Mike!
: Kathy: What? What?
: Michelle: He's outside.
: Kathy: Hey, can somebody open the door? Mike, come on. No! No! No! (sobs) No! They shot him...
: David: No.
: Kathy: They shot him!
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: Tony: Tony Prince, SAC.
: Mitch: Mitch Decker, tactical.
: Gary: Gary Noesner, lead negotiator.
: Tony: Come on. You up to speed?
: Mitch: Pretty much.
: Gary: Have we established contact?
: Tony: There's been some preliminary talks between Koresh and the ATF, but our guys are still setting up.
: Gary: How should I coordinate negotiations and tectical?
: Tony: All communications go through me.
: Gary: I'd prefer if I spoke with Mitch directly. That way we're always on the same page. I find that...
: Tony: I don't care what you find. You go through me. That's how we're doing it.
: Mitch: Copy that.
: Wiggins: We're still in the process of securing a perimeter. We're just about to lock it down...
: Mitch: We'll secure the perimeter.
: Wiggins: If you want, we could help you guys...
: Mitch: No. You've done enough already. We'll take it from here.
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: Walter: No, that is not what I was saying. If you could just put David back on the phone, we could get to the bottom of this... Wait. No. No, that is not an emergency. This is an emergency... Hello? Operator just cut me off. Saying they had an emergency phone call from a current affair.
: Gary: Is that so?
: Walter: Yeah.
: Gary: Well, let's cut the outside lines and run our own. I want their undivided attention.
: Walter: Okay.
: Gary: We've met before, haven't we?
: Walter: Yeah, we sure have. You trained me. Walter Graves.
: Gary: Oh, thanks. So, what's the deal with that Prince fella? I didn't get the fuzziest feeling from him.
: Walter: Yeah, he's not really a fuzzy feeling kind of guy. He's out of San Antonio like me, but prepare yourself. He's a piece of work.
: Gary: Alright.
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: Vazquez: I told you! I told you the element of surprise was blown. I told you that.
: Wiggins: That's not what I heard you say.
: Vazquez: I told you! I said they knew you were coming. I told you to call it off, man.
: Wiggins: You should've bene more clear.
: Vazquez: What... what's more clear than that?
: Wiggins: You didn't tell me they were arming up!
: Vazquez: They weren't, man. They weren't. They weren't arming up.
: Wiggins: Look, we've already been through a lot today, let's... let's not go at each other right now.
: Vazquez: Let me just go back in, man.
: Wiggins: No, I can't do that.
: Vazquez: Come on. What do you mean you can't do that? Let me just talk to them. I know I can convince them to come out.
: Wiggins: I told you, I can't do it. It's in the hands of the FBI now.
: Vazquez: Yeah. Right.
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: David: If we do surrender, what are we facing?
: Wayne: Manslaughter. Murder. Depends on how hard they want to go.
: Thibodeau: But they shot first. We were defending outselves.
: Wayne: Good luck getting them to admit that.
: Steve: Is there any chance we get a fair shake?
: Wayne: In my opinion, none.
: Rachel: Can they take the children?
: Wayne: Well, if we're arrested, yeah.
: Thibodeau: I feel like we got to call 911, but... who do you call when it's your own government attacking?
: Ron: (over radio) The thing I don't get, this seemed to be a military operation against US citizens, which is completely illegal. There's a law against that. It's called posse comitatus. And your cousin Bubba might be like: "Ron, why are you getting so worked up? Basically the same thing, ain't it?" No, it's not the same thing. Law enforcement and military fore are two very different functions. Law enforcement is all about de-escalating conflict. You aren't allowed to shoot unless shot at. They strive toward a peaceful conclusion, you know? Military force... on the other hand, is about inflicting more pain on an enemy than he can inflict on you. So, I ask you, why is our government... using military force... on civilians? Folks, you're never going to believe this, but I have David Koresh on the line right now. Mr. Koresh? Mr. Koresh, are you there?
: David: Yes, I am, what's left of me, anyways.
: Ron: Can you tell us what happened today?
: David: What happened today was un-American.
: Ron: How are you guys holding up there?
: David: Not good. There's a bunch of us shot dead. You know, we have kids in here.
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: Gary: Got the lines consolidated yet?
: Walter: Almost. I asked HRT for help. They said they'd get on it.
: Gary: Yeah, don't expect any favors from those guys.
: Tony: Koresh is on the radio. Why can he still call out? I don't want him committing suicide on live air.
: Gary: Mitch! Mitch?
: Mitch: Got that secure?
: Gary: Hey, didn't my guy ask you to cut the line?
: Mitch: Getting to it. Still securing the perimeter.
: Tony: Cut it! What's the matter with you? Cut the line, they're on the radio! 
: Mitch: Somebody cut the line. Over. Cut the line!
: David: And I never planned on using those weapons. And the problem is, the people on the outside don't understand what we bel...
: Ron: David? David, are you there?
: Mitch: Line's cut.
: Gary: Alright. Re-establish a connection. Get me on the phone with Koresh.
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: David: They cut us off. Hello.
: Gary: Hello. Whom am I speaking with?
: David: This is David... the notorious.
: Gary: Hi, David. This is Gary, FBI.
: David: Hey, Gary. How you doing?
: Gary: Mm, you know, I suppose we've both had better days.
: David: Yeah. You're telling me.
: Gary: Yeah. How do you say you name, David. Is it Koresh or Kor-esh?
: David: You ever hear someone die before, Gary?
: Gary: Unfortunately, yes. I have.
: David: Then you say my name like the last breath of a dying man. Like a death knell. Koreshhhhh.
: Gary: I got it. Koreshhh. Well, as I said, I'm with the FBI, not the ATF. We're in charge of this now.
: David: Isn't that like getting in a fight with the neighbor boy and he whoops you and his big brother comes over to investigate?
: Gary: No, it's not like that at all.
: David: Tell me, Gary... you going to come kill us all?
: Gary: No. I'm here to work this out with words, not bullets.
: David: Well, why didn't you do that in the first place? When I was out in town, or jogging? Jacob Vazquez knew that.
: Gary: David, I can't tell you the answer to that, because I wasn't involved.
: David: Put Jacob on the phone.
: Gary: Well, I wish I could, but he's not here. Now, David, I hear you're injured and I'd like to get you medical attention. We just need you to come out.
: David: Come out? After what you did to us? After you came in and shot us for no reason?
: Gary: Well, like I said, we're FBI. We had absolutely nothing to do with that. Although, it's my understanding that your people ambushed the ATF.
: David: That is a lie! This is all their fault. You don't believe me, there was a guy right outside with a video camera! You go watch that tape!
: Gary: Fair enough. Well, let's try and get past this, okay? Tell me what I need to do to get you out of there.
: David: Hm. In Psalms 2, it says David has a vision of the future, of confrontation between man and man's law and God and God's law.
: Gary: Okay.
: David: And Revelation 13 tells of a "lamb-like beast" who will rise up. Tell me, Gary... what empire is lamb-like, or Christian? The United States of America. The leaders of the earth will join in counsel together... against the Lord, against His anointed. The message in Psalms 2 is clear, Gary.
: Gary: Seems like you know the Bible back to front.
: David: I memorized every word of it.
: Gary: And you know, it also seems like you have a message.
: David: Our purpose here, Gary, is that message.
: Gary: Well, what if I could help you? What if I can convince my commanders to let you share your message with the world? Would you come out then?
: David: When you say world, do you mean national TV?
: Gary: Sure.
: David: You broadcast my message on national TV, then yeah, I'll come out.
: Gary: Okay. Let's be clear. If I make this happen... you will peacefully surrender? You're agreeing to that?
: David: Yeah. You have yourself a deal.
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: Steve: Excuse me one second. Just one second. Can I have everybody's attention, please? Please. Look, I know. I know it's been a... it's been a long, awful day. But, I do have some good news. Uh, David has spoken to the FBI and they've come to a deal.
: Judy: What... what kind of deal?
: Steve: So, David is... is going to make a recording of our message. And after it airs on national television, then we're all going to come out.
: Kathy: We're all going to jail?
: Steve: Honestly, I... I don't know, Kathy.
: Judy: They can't make us leave here. This is our home.
: Steve: Nobody is saying we can't come back here. This is just the deal David made, uh, in order to bring this situation to a close. You should all pack up whatever... belongings you want to take with you and be prepared to leave in the morning. That's it.
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: Thibodeau: How's he doing?
: Michelle: He's going in and out.
: Thibodeau: Do you need a break? I can sit with him for a while.
: Michelle: No, I'm not going anywhere.
: Thibodeau: Well, I could stay with you... if that's alright.
: Michelle: Yeah. Yeah, I'd like that.
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: Gary: Mind if we have an off-the-record? I hear you spent some time with those guys.
: Jacob: A little.
: Gary: Well, the ATF says they were shot at first. Koresh says the ATF fired first. Any idea who's telling the truth?
: Jacob: I wasn't there.
: Gary: Koresh mentioned you guys had someone filming the raid. That true?
: Jacob: Why are you asking me all these questions?
: Gary: Both sides seem to trust you.
: Jacob: Yep, there was a... there was a camera guy there.
: Gary: Now, you think I could see that tape? I really need to have my facts straight before I talk to him.
: Jacob: I heard it went missing.
: Gary: Missing?
: Jacob: Yeah. As soon as the confusion started... the tape just went missing.
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: David: It's happening, Rachel. The whole world is going to hear my message. And just imagine what's going to happen when they do. It's going to be unlike anything they've ever known.
: Rachel: And then after that?
: David: What do you mean?
: Rachel: Mt. Carmel's in your name. If you're arrested, they'll take it away... and then where will we go?
: David: Why would they do that?
: Rachel: Why are they going any of this? This is all we have. It's all we know.
: David: God will deliver us to where we need to be. You need to put your fate in His hands. And I'll do whatever it takes to protect you and our children from the law. But I can't protect you from God's plan.
: Steve: Ready?
: David: Yeah.
: Steve: You alright?
: Rachel: Yeah.
: David: Let's do it.
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: Walter: Yeah, it looks like it's winding down. We're just waiting for 'em to come out. Well, hopefully tonight. Hey, I got to go, but I'll see you tomorrow. I love you, too. Bye.
: Gary: Your wife?
: Walter: Yeah.
: Gary: Yeah. Let me give you a piece of advice, okay? Never say you're coming home until you're on your way. Under-promise, over-deliver, everyone's happier that way.
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: David: When God says: "Hearken to Me, you who seek after righteousness, you who seek the Lord. Look to the Rock." The Lord is that Rock and He is on his throne and He says...
: Steve: What's wrong?
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: David: What are you doing? People died today! They died protecting you! Their bodies are in the next room over! Go on, take a look at them! Go! Y'all should be mourning, and praying for the souls that we lost, not celebrating. Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves.
: Thibodeau: David, it's Perry. We need you.
: David: Okay. Okay.
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: Perry: David... my time's done here.
: David: I need you to hang on a little longer, okay?
: Perry: I ain't... I ain't going to make it.
: David: Okay. Let's get you out of here.
: Perry: I want to die here... not out there. I want the last faces I see to be faces I love, not ones I hate. Davey... take your sisters downstairs.
: Davey: Come on, darling.
: Rachel: No.
: Michelle: We love you, daddy.
: Perry: I love you, too. Please... please... please make it stop.
: David: Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord, Jesus Christ. The Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulations, that we may be able to comfort those... that are in any trouble. Amen.
: Perry: Thank you.
: David: I will see you again.
: Perry: I hope. (gunshot)
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: Balenda: Excuse me. Well, you don't look like an ATF agent.
: Bonnie Sue: Goodness, no. My son's in there.
: Balenda: Mine, too.
: Bonnie Sue: Who's your son?
: Balenda: David Thibodeau.
: Bonnie Sue: Oh. Well, he's a real nice boy.
: Balenda: You know him?
: Bonnie Sue: Oh, yeah. He's real sweet with my grandkids. Got 13 in there.
: Balenda: Wait, are you... David Koresh's mother?
: Bonnie Sue: Don't say that too loud.
: Balenda: Excuse me, I'm going to... I'm going to go and use the restroom. I'm going to be back, okay? Excuse me.
: Wiggins: Earlier today, the ATF was ambushed as we tried to serve a routine search warrant for what we believed to be a dangerous cult... who were illegally modifying weapons for an end-of-days assault. Known as the Branch Davidians... these people believe in their charismatic leader David Koresh... is the Messiah. We had an undercover agent who had infiltrated their compound. But unfortunately, he didn't warn us that the cult was planning an attack. We also now believe that he might have been compromised by the group. The ATF will be investigating that matter further in the days to come. Negotiations have since been turned over to the FBI. Special Agent Tony Prince is here with me to let you know where things currently stand.
: Tony: Thank you. Good morning. My team is now in charge of bringing this situation to an end and we have hope that it will be over soon. One of our negotiators was able to strike a deal with Mr. Koresh. In exchange for his surrender, we have agreed to play an audiotape from Koresh himself. It's almost an hour long, but per our end of the bargain, here it is.
: David: (on tape) I, David Koresh, agree upon the broadcasting of this tape to come out, peacefully, with all the people, immediately. The first thing I'd like to introduce in our subject is the reasons for the revelations of Jesus Christ. In the Book of Revelation, commentary states what John has written in Scripture is nothing other than the revelations of Jesus Christ... we see in Chapter Five that John begins to weep until one of the others says: "Weep not. Behold, the Lion of the tribe Judah, the Root of David, and John beheld the Lamb as it had been slain in the midst of the throne of the four beasts, and the elders, with even eyes and seven horns." What's the meaning of these things? What is the meaning?
: Reporter #1: The tape you ran, um, I think most of us heard, was a rambling discourse that went on for what, 58 minutes, almost an hour. Would you have run it if not urged to do so by the authorities?
: Reporter #2: I doubt it.
: Reporter #3: Howell thinks he's the Lamb of God, when all he is, is a cheap thug... who interprets the Bible through the barrel of a...
: Reporter #4: ...released a rambling hour-long recording outlining his views of the Book of Revelation and told authorities he would surrender if...
: Reporter #5: How do you prove to someone that he is not Jesus Christ incarnate? Well, the FBI said today that is the challenge it faces in dealing with cult leader David Koresh...
: Steve: David, you alright?
: Reporter #5: ...that David is not Christ.
: Reporter #6: Federal authorities have brought in reinforcements.
: Reporter #7: There are about 200 lawmen here now. Negotiations are continuing. Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms officials say no deadline has been set to bring this to a conclusion. What they want is to bring it to a conclusion without any more...
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: Vazquez: I did everything you asked me to and you burned me.
: Wiggins: You burned youself.
: Vazquez: That's bullshit. Come on, guys. You heard me call it off. Tell him. Tell him! Oh, so that's how it is? Fifteen years of loyalty? Fifteen years of putting my life on the line and then for what? For what? Hey! Hey, get your hands off me, man. Get off me.
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: David: This is David.
: Gary: Hey, David. It's Gary. Our busses are ready to come pick you up, but before they do, there's a procedure I'd like to go over with you first. Now it's important to remember...
: David: You ever see The Lawnmower Man, Gary?
: Gary: No, David, I haven't.
: David: Oh, it's a good movie. You should see it. It's about a simple man that grows an understanding that changes the world. Nobody treats him good at first. They make fun of him and call him names. But in time... they soon realize that he has a power that none of them understood. You see, he taps into something... something that changes the fabric of reality. And you know what they try to do to him when they realize that? They try to get rid of him. They burn it all down. The telephones will ring, Gary. The telephones will ring.
: Gary: I don't understand.
: David: God spoke to me. We ain't coming out.
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