102717-i-am-bad-at-wildstar

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I play engineer.  Lately i am feeling that i am bad at this game, i have been letting other people down and very angry with myself.  In other games i am usualy doing very well, near the top of the DPS meter on classes that arn't "top tier" and able to heal just fine in other game's raids.  In this game however there is just too much to deal with.  I can't pvp at all, my fingers get muttled as i try to dodge and move around while hitting keys at the same time.  I seem to die first in dungeons.  I am letting my group members down and i can hear it in their voices on mumble.  I try and practice things in the game as well but i don't seem to be improving.
 
Is their any hope or should i just quit now?	
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I play engineer.  Lately i am feeling that i am bad at this game, i have been letting other people down and very angry with myself.  In other games i am usualy doing very well, near the top of the DPS meter on classes that arn't "top tier" and able to heal just fine in other game's raids.  In this game however there is just too much to deal with.  I can't pvp at all, my fingers get muttled as i try to dodge and move around while hitting keys at the same time.  I seem to die first in dungeons.  I am letting my group members down and i can hear it in their voices on mumble.  I try and practice things in the game as well but i don't seem to be improving.
 
Is their any hope or should i just quit now?
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Engineers are horrible at PvP , especially open world pvp. you can't move, you can't escape. Roll a stalker, warrior or Spellslinger for pvp. These are the only viable dps classes for pvp.
 
For PvE though, Engineers are top dps at the moment, but Carbine will fix that soon and nerf the immortal shit out of them so they're not anymore. Likely in patch 2 on or after August 3rd.
 
Up to you really from here on out.	
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I play engineer.  Lately i am feeling that i am bad at this game, i have been letting other people down and very angry with myself.  In other games i am usualy doing very well, near the top of the DPS meter on classes that arn't "top tier" and able to heal just fine in other game's raids.  In this game however there is just too much to deal with.  I can't pvp at all, my fingers get muttled as i try to dodge and move around while hitting keys at the same time.  I seem to die first in dungeons.  I am letting my group members down and i can hear it in their voices on mumble.  I try and practice things in the game as well but i don't seem to be improving.
 
Is their any hope or should i just quit now?
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			Could be a wrong class.	
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 my fingers get muttled as i try to dodge and move around while hitting keys at the same time.  
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do you use a gaming mouse? my guess would be no, get yourself a mouse with extra buttons, bind all your movement to the mouse, practice and learn your new setup. win.
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			Don't buy Logitech g600 as the handling is inferior to the naga.	
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			I like the housing but apart from that I don't do very well in this game.  I am not subbed right now and haven't logged in for a few weeks but that's because I have been in the process of healing.  I think I will try wildstar again in a month or two.  I just cant seem to make any decent friends in game.  I might just go to Evindra since a lot of the posters I know are on that server.  Plus I never got into roleplay so it might be really fun	
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I like the housing but apart from that I don't do very well in this game.  I am not subbed right now and haven't logged in for a few weeks but that's because I have been in the process of healing.  I think I will try wildstar again in a month or two.  I just cant seem to make any decent friends in game.  I might just go to Evindra since a lot of the posters I know are on that server.  Plus I never got into roleplay so it might be really fun
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Don't buy Logitech g600 as the handling is inferior to the naga.
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Yes, Engineers are also good at housing.
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do you use a gaming mouse? my guess would be no, get yourself a mouse with extra buttons, bind all your movement to the mouse, practice and learn your new setup. win.
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Well I play esper...  never tried engineer but I am done with those kinds of classes since I played similar things in the past.  I just feel weak.  I guess I cant really make much progress like my friends if I play 30-60 minutes every couple days lol.  I got so behind I got discouraged XD  
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I never got into logitech stuff just didn't seem the build quality was good. And at the OP there is a very large thread on how to adjust your settings to your play-style just search key bind or naga.
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Oi I just realized
I blame sleep deprivation
Think I read one part and the rest went out the window
 
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uhhh....i think he's hinting that you are a bit off topic...we're trying to help the OP out with his engineer.
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I got a Logitech G600 but the handling is worst then my old deathadder and it effected my game performance, call it quits and got a naga 2014 and suddenly my problems were gone.
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I play engineer.  Lately i am feeling that i am bad at this game, i have been letting other people down and very angry with myself.  In other games i am usualy doing very well, near the top of the DPS meter on classes that arn't "top tier" and able to heal just fine in other game's raids.  In this game however there is just too much to deal with.  I can't pvp at all, my fingers get muttled as i try to dodge and move around while hitting keys at the same time.  I seem to die first in dungeons.  I am letting my group members down and i can hear it in their voices on mumble.  I try and practice things in the game as well but i don't seem to be improving.
 
Is their any hope or should i just quit now?
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You realize the G600 is 100x more customizable than the Naga, right? The Naga is actually more likely to have defects than the G600, on top of that.
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You realize the G600 is 100x more customizable than the Naga, right? The Naga is actually more likely to have defects than the G600, on top of that.
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I've had the Naga for years, never had a problem.
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Tips. 
Go to engi subforum and read. No need to follow word for word but get educated on what and why people run. 
Use something like steer. Saves you having to press down right click. 
Get a gaming mouse or redo keybindings so that all is within easy reach. 
 
Good luck.	
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			I'm using a naga 2014 and it's bigger than the g600.	
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Don't give up my fellow engineer. As most have said, research a bit of the class and you will be happier for it. I recently changed my playstyle (LAS) and am loving it!
 
Have not PvP'd much but I did kick ass, we may not be able to run break loose and run away but we can stand and deliver while the others do!	
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			Opps, just compare the naga and the G600 and the G600 is slightly bigger. Problem is the G600 is shape wrongly compare to the naga so handling is bad.	
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Whilst I'm sure the OP is incredibly concerned with the size differences between two different gaming mice, I'm going to offer another suggestion:
 
 
OP: Get Dasher boots (even if a dps loss), and chuck a couple AMPs into dash regen (in Util tree). People do it for the dps gain, but equally I'm finding it incredibly useful if you find yourself getting stuck in telegraphs too often, or your latency is horribad like mine.
Engineers are SLOW. If you keep getting hit, you need to try to react a tad quicker, stop your dps'ing for a sec (Esc to stop electrocute mid-cast), and double-tap dodge out of the way of whatever is about to kill you. Having stupid fast dash regeneration helps immensely as it means you will always have a dash token up for when you need to move (often).
 
If you can stay alive more, the game gets better.	
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Engineers are horrible at PvP , especially open world pvp. you can't move, you can't escape. Roll a stalker, warrior or Spellslinger for pvp. These are the only viable dps classes for pvp.
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			You and the rest of the Exiles....	
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			Having used the Naga and the G600, I'd have to give the nod to the G600. The button layout is much easier to pick up(this is vs the 2014 Naga). In the end, I decided to stick with my G602. I can transition between the buttons faster than I could on the other 2 in "High Pressure" situations. Also the G602 is capable of binding all nine action keys. It's also 500hz wireless. Spend 15 bucks on a Rechargeable battery kit and you're good to go. Batteries last a really  long time in the G602.	
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I was talked into buying a Naga some time ago by my friends. I hated it. It fit wrong in my hand and I didn't like the weight of it. It felt insubstantial and didn't fit the way I hold my hand when I use my mouse. About five months in, the mouse pointer started to jiggle - the sensors were effed up. Then came the double-clicking that just about drove me up the wall. I bought a new one, stubborn to try again, and I had the same troubles. I had a much harder time steering and moving and clicking, and I put it all down to me being a terrible gamer. It was sensitive in all the wrong ways, and I felt like a clutz.
 
Then I bought my G600 and I just love it. It's rounder instead of the elongated shape that the Naga has. I've got rather small hands, and the Naga just never fit me. The G600 is squat and heavy, and feels a lot sturdier. That's my personal impression anyway. The Naga's been gathering dust ever since.
 
I'd suggest going into a store that has both mice and see how they feel. For me, the Naga was disastrous from beginning to end, whereas the G600 has made me a better player than I used to be.
 
Don't give up. Finding the right gaming mouse can make a huge difference.	
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My gaming mouse:
 
 
 
Still not doing bad all things considered.	
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			Never did like wireless because the battery tends to run out at a bad time. Wired is more reliable.	
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Never did like wireless because the battery tends to run out at a bad time. Wired is more reliable.
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Mine have to be wired, or they become chew toys for the pups.
 
But then sometimes the wires do.
 
It's a vicious cycle.	
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			I solved my "muddled fingers" issue by buying a razer naga mmo mouse.  Took some time to get used to 12 thumb buttons - but once you get it, it's very natural and "quiets" your hands down a LOT.  i.e. no frenzied reaching for keys, etc...	
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I solved my "muddled fingers" issue by buying a razer naga mmo mouse.  Took some time to get used to 12 thumb buttons - but once you get it, it's very natural and "quiets" your hands down a LOT.  i.e. no frenzied reaching for keys, etc...
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I have one Naga shelved with the clicky button, but I prefer it over the Logitech G600 due to how the side buttons are placed (flat vs 2 section curved).  Finger moves better across all buttons on the Naga.  The other thing is that sometimes my Logitech for some unknown reason goes boom and change button layout with or without their software installed.
 
For the engineer you may actually have to change builds depending on how are you doing the content.  If playing solo or 2 groups, keep your robots: arthy and the tank(bruiserbot) out at all times, use their skills every time their cooldown expires, in order tank first, arthy second.  The tank will get the aggro, and arthy will do aoe damage mortar over tank position.  Dps the mobs.  And leave the interrupt to block the strong attacks (telegraphs).
 
For dungeons and adventures is better to not have robots at all, since they like to aggro anything that looks at you, bringing probably fights that otherwise you can avoid.
 
Also keep an interrupt (defaults to 3 - third skill), and you can use the tank robot to interrupt too.	
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My gaming mouse:
 
 
 
Still not doing bad all things considered.
 
I however, being the baddie that I am, need at least side buttons for Wildstar.
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<3 I'm one of those people who really thinks gaming peripherals are a waste of time. The best FPS player I ever knew, who had made money playing professional chess as well, would launch nukes in MW2 and was on the leaderboards for CS with a freaking wireless logitech laptop mouse that was like 5.99 at Wal-Mart.
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Seems excessive.	
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Seems excessive.
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It may not be you, possibly the class you are playing.
 
Take WoW, used to play a Rogue and couldn't play it for toffee, come TBC I rerolled a Holy Pala and the game was completely different as I had found a class that I enjoyed playing, partly because I wasn't that bad at playing it.	
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			Engineer's in particular can take some getting used to. They're not great for mobility and the link between dashing and DPS can work against you if you aren't pre-planning your next moves.What I would say is never neglect your sprint, for dungeons especially it's one of the most useful abilities for avoiding telegraphs.PvP wise, you need to choose the right fights to be a part of. We aren't the kind of class that will be chasing down fleeing enemies,but we have effective means of controlling the fight and applying pressure to specific targets.	
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