Report 725

Report #725
Skillset: Necroscream Skill: Ironchord
 Org: Cacophony Status: Completed Dec 2011
Furies' Decision:
We are not inclined to change damage type in this manner for this skill. We are
interested and will investigate adding bleeding as a component, however.
Problem: Ironchord is close to absolutely useless. Assuming it is purely for
bashing, it is only useable against a few specific enemies.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #1: Change Ironchord damage type to 20% cutting 40%
 excorable and 40% poison.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #2: Change Ironchord to 50% excorable and 50% psychic.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #3: Change Irconchord to 50% excorable and 50% poison.
Player Comments:
---[Enyalida on 10/27 @ 02:39 writes]:
I believe the bards are intended to get either 75/25 if commune, 50/50 if city,
so I'd suggest changing the cutting entirely to some other type. Straight to
poison does sound thematic.
---[Raeri on 10/27 @ 10:53 writes]:
I think harbs already have the excor/poison split though.
---[Iytha on 10/30 @ 23:21 writes]:
Exorable/Cold seems reasonable to me.
---[Estwald on 11/6 @ 15:54 writes]:
Solution 2 added.
---[Xenthos on 12/3 @ 22:17 writes]:
Psychic? Doesn't really seem in tune with the theme of the skill or skillset
(and a play at going for something with very little resists). I don't really
mind if it's a mix a poison and excorable (does it matter if it mimics
Harbingers), with the poison essentially equating to the disease aspect of
Necroscream. Psychic seems bizarre.
---[Estwald on 12/7 @ 02:08 writes]:
Solution 3 added.
---[Iytha on 12/7 @ 19:40 writes]:
Solution 3 if anything, I think. Psychic would just be weird given the attack
message.
---[Janalon on 12/13 @ 11:32 writes]:
Could I have a clarification exactly why "Ironchord is close to completely
useless"? What is your supporting evidence of this claim?
---[Shuyin on 12/16 @ 20:27 writes]:
I am also curious as to why ironchord is completely useless. Cutting/excorable
does have its uses, given that their are denizens on astral and muud that are
weak to cutting. The problem's premise applies to just about every bashing
attack ever as well, so I'm not seeing any tangible problem specific to
ironchord. To be honest, it seems like the problem stems more from cutting
being more shruggable in pvp compared to the poison/fire/etc of the other "new"
bard attacks, so I find the problem misleading if this is true.
---[Viynain on 12/20 @ 08:58 writes]:
If it doesn't already exist, I can see adding bleeding to Ironchord (cutting
base damage and manabarbs fodder for clot) to make it more desirable in PvP.
Changing the cutting type to something else when the theme is pretty clear
though is something I don't see happening. PvE, I agree with Shuyin that it
would have its good situational applications as Shuyin stated, and don't think
needs tweaking.
---[Wobou on 12/22 @ 02:13 writes]:
If the types were to change I think it should either be cold or poison and
excorable. That being said I like Viynain's idea of adding bleeding.
---[Shuyin on 12/24 @ 19:39 writes]:
I find adding bleeding to be more agreeable as a solution, given the theme of
the ability
---[Ushaara on 12/27 @ 18:12 writes]:
I also like the more thematic bleeding addition, that is if the damage is
actually weaker than other bard guilds in pvp.
---[Rika on 12/31 @ 03:46 writes]:
I think it's pretty silly how we need to keep bringing up damage types and how
certain ones are better than others. We should really look at making the damage
types more equal, rather than waste our time trying to get every single ability
changed so that they are somewhat balanced.