123984-things-i-think-need-to-die-in-mmos

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Wildstar as done a lot of innovative things but has also held onto some MMO legacy systems that just need to go away. I rank Guild Wars 2 and the most progressive in breaking outdated systems.
 
Mail boxes: Why of why do games make me track down a mail box to get my mail. Especially in a techno world. Just let me access it anywhere any time.
 
Sprinting: Personally I hate having to manage my sprint bar. Just let me run fast infinitely unless I'm engaged in combat. Pick one ground speed and if I want to go even faster then I bust out my mount.
 
Rest Exp: For the non level 50ers out there, I'd like the concept of rest ext to go away. I think Wildstar did a wonderful job of working it into the housing system but I still hate leveling up an alt without rest exp. I'll often not play an alt unless his rest ext bar is full and as soon as its empty I feel like I'm not being efficient, I feel jipped.
 
Running back to turn in a quests: Any and all quests should be remotely complete-able. Wildstar has a majority that are but i still find myself back tracking too often just to turn in a quest.
 
Race exclusive sides: Just make your sides and have all races/classes available. Not a single Granok sided with the Dominion?
 
Just some thoughts I had after a weekend long bout of Wildstar. Happy Monday!	
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Wildstar as done a lot of innovative things but has also held onto some MMO legacy systems that just need to go away. I rank Guild Wars 2 and the most progressive in breaking outdated systems.
 
Mail boxes: Why of why do games make me track down a mail box to get my mail. Especially in a techno world. Just let me access it anywhere any time.
 
Sprinting: Personally I hate having to manage my sprint bar. Just let me run fast infinitely unless I'm engaged in combat. Pick one ground speed and if I want to go even faster then I bust out my mount.
 
Rest Exp: For the non level 50ers out there, I'd like the concept of rest ext to go away. I think Wildstar did a wonderful job of working it into the housing system but I still hate leveling up an alt without rest exp. I'll often not play an alt unless his rest ext bar is full and as soon as its empty I feel like I'm not being efficient, I feel jipped.
 
Running back to turn in a quests: Any and all quests should be remotely complete-able. Wildstar has a majority that are but i still find myself back tracking too often just to turn in a quest.
 
Race exclusive sides: Just make your sides and have all races/classes available. Not a single Granok sided with the Dominion?
 
Just some thoughts I had after a weekend long bout of Wildstar. Happy Monday!
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			The sprint mechanic is absolutely essential in the combat of WS, is fantastic, and fun. Definitely don't take it away.	
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The sprint mechanic is absolutely essential in the combat of WS, is fantastic, and fun. Definitely don't take it away.
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Yeah, that's why I think I agree.  He said something about leaving it up in combat, so I think the OP realizes that, just didn't express it that way.
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Fair enough.
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plz dont remove sprinting from mounts, the intelligent sprint its what makes races in wildstar fun, even some friend built a race track in their plot for that purpose. the sprinting mechanic in wildstar gives  a different taste to mounts and that unique touch that other mmos lack,  in other cases mounts are just a buff, but managing your sprint to make super jumps as a explorer, or trying that impossible challenge its a lot of fun to me.
 
just see this way, we  could have mounts that only move at 1 speed all the time and its the base speed for mounts now, or we can have that base speed but for moments get a boost.mailbox: well you can read your mail everywhere not just in a mailbox, but physical objects have to get somewhere we are not Hammerspace all the stuff ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_satchel#/media/File:Hammerspaceweb.JPG )
 
running back to turn in a quest: the ones i had to run back its to get more quest or cause its logic inside the chain mision that the npc have moved form one side to another (example tempest refuge chain of quest and the granok female commander who moves from defending siege to a base where she can direct some attack into dominion forces and then moves near the augmentation facility)
 
Race exclusive sides:  after these i dont think so, http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/stories/ravaging-of-arboria.html
http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/stories/the-war-of-gnox.html
 
but we are seeing more and more neutral npc, like laveka whos a draken or granok, aurin, draken and chua in the cult of augmentation​ 	
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plz dont remove sprinting from mounts, the intelligent sprint its what makes races in wildstar fun, even some friend built a race track in their plot for that purpose. the sprinting mechanic in wildstar gives  a different taste to mounts and that unique touch that other mmos lack,  in other cases mounts are just a buff, but managing your sprint to make super jumps as a explorer, or trying that impossible challenge its a lot of fun to me.
 
just see this way, we  could have mounts that only move at 1 speed all the time and its the base speed for mounts now, or we can have that base speed but for moments get a boost.
 
mailbox: well you can read your mail everywhere not just in a mailbox, but physical objects have to get somewhere we are not Hammerspace all the stuff ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_satchel#/media/File:Hammerspaceweb.JPG )
 
running back to turn in a quest: the ones i had to run back its to get more quest or cause its logic inside the chain mision that the npc have moved form one side to another (example tempest refuge chain of quest and the granok female commander who moves from defending siege to a base where she can direct some attack into dominion forces and then moves near the augmentation facility)
 
Race exclusive sides:  after these i dont think so, 
http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/stories/ravaging-of-arboria.html
http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/stories/the-war-of-gnox.html
 
but we are seeing more and more neutral npc, like laveka whos a draken or granok, aurin, draken and chua in the cult of augmentation
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If people can teleport themselves short distances, it's not inconceivable that a teleportation based delivery system would exist. Not that a fantasy MMO needs to justify anything.  :lol:
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Please keep the races faction unique.  Maybe a Granok decided to side with the Dominion, but this should be unique.  An Aurin, though?  Never.  I also can't even fathom a Chua going Exile.  The race lore is part of what makes this IP unique.
 
The mailbox I understand.  In fact, why can't I just pick up my purchase from the AH/ CX?	
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Please keep the races faction unique.  Maybe a Granok decided to side with the Dominion, but this should be unique.  An Aurin, though?  Never.  I also can't even fathom a Chua going Exile.  The race lore is part of what makes this IP unique.
 
The mailbox I understand.  In fact, why can't I just pick up my purchase from the AH/ CX?
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			Damn these youngins wanting everything now /waves walking stick around	
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Wildstar as done a lot of innovative things but has also held onto some MMO legacy systems that just need to go away. I rank Guild Wars 2 and the most progressive in breaking outdated systems.
 
Mail boxes: Why of why do games make me track down a mail box to get my mail. Especially in a techno world. Just let me access it anywhere any time.
 
Sprinting: Personally I hate having to manage my sprint bar. Just let me run fast infinitely unless I'm engaged in combat. Pick one ground speed and if I want to go even faster then I bust out my mount.
 
Rest Exp: For the non level 50ers out there, I'd like the concept of rest ext to go away. I think Wildstar did a wonderful job of working it into the housing system but I still hate leveling up an alt without rest exp. I'll often not play an alt unless his rest ext bar is full and as soon as its empty I feel like I'm not being efficient, I feel jipped.
 
Running back to turn in a quests: Any and all quests should be remotely complete-able. Wildstar has a majority that are but i still find myself back tracking too often just to turn in a quest.
 
Race exclusive sides: Just make your sides and have all races/classes available. Not a single Granok sided with the Dominion?
 
Just some thoughts I had after a weekend long bout of Wildstar. Happy Monday!
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Wildstar as done a lot of innovative things but has also held onto some MMO legacy systems that just need to go away. I rank Guild Wars 2 and the most progressive in breaking outdated systems.
 
Mail boxes: Why of why do games make me track down a mail box to get my mail. Especially in a techno world. Just let me access it anywhere any time.
 
Sprinting: Personally I hate having to manage my sprint bar. Just let me run fast infinitely unless I'm engaged in combat. Pick one ground speed and if I want to go even faster then I bust out my mount.
 
Rest Exp: For the non level 50ers out there, I'd like the concept of rest ext to go away. I think Wildstar did a wonderful job of working it into the housing system but I still hate leveling up an alt without rest exp. I'll often not play an alt unless his rest ext bar is full and as soon as its empty I feel like I'm not being efficient, I feel jipped.
 
Running back to turn in a quests: Any and all quests should be remotely complete-able. Wildstar has a majority that are but i still find myself back tracking too often just to turn in a quest.
 
Race exclusive sides: Just make your sides and have all races/classes available. Not a single Granok sided with the Dominion?
 
Just some thoughts I had after a weekend long bout of Wildstar. Happy Monday!
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plz dont remove sprinting from mounts, the intelligent sprint its what makes races in wildstar fun, even some friend built a race track in their plot for that purpose. the sprinting mechanic in wildstar gives  a different taste to mounts and that unique touch that other mmos lack,  in other cases mounts are just a buff, but managing your sprint to make super jumps as a explorer, or trying that impossible challenge its a lot of fun to me.
 
just see this way, we  could have mounts that only move at 1 speed all the time and its the base speed for mounts now, or we can have that base speed but for moments get a boost.
 
mailbox: well you can read your mail everywhere not just in a mailbox, but physical objects have to get somewhere we are not Hammerspace all the stuff ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_satchel#/media/File:Hammerspaceweb.JPG )
 
running back to turn in a quest: the ones i had to run back its to get more quest or cause its logic inside the chain mision that the npc have moved form one side to another (example tempest refuge chain of quest and the granok female commander who moves from defending siege to a base where she can direct some attack into dominion forces and then moves near the augmentation facility)
 
Race exclusive sides:  after these i dont think so, 
http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/stories/ravaging-of-arboria.html
http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/stories/the-war-of-gnox.html
 
but we are seeing more and more neutral npc, like laveka whos a draken or granok, aurin, draken and chua in the cult of augmentation
​ 
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Wildstar as done a lot of innovative things but has also held onto some MMO legacy systems that just need to go away. I rank Guild Wars 2 and the most progressive in breaking outdated systems.
 
Mail boxes: Why of why do games make me track down a mail box to get my mail. Especially in a techno world. Just let me access it anywhere any time.
 
Sprinting: Personally I hate having to manage my sprint bar. Just let me run fast infinitely unless I'm engaged in combat. Pick one ground speed and if I want to go even faster then I bust out my mount.
 
Rest Exp: For the non level 50ers out there, I'd like the concept of rest ext to go away. I think Wildstar did a wonderful job of working it into the housing system but I still hate leveling up an alt without rest exp. I'll often not play an alt unless his rest ext bar is full and as soon as its empty I feel like I'm not being efficient, I feel jipped.
 
Running back to turn in a quests: Any and all quests should be remotely complete-able. Wildstar has a majority that are but i still find myself back tracking too often just to turn in a quest.
 
Race exclusive sides: Just make your sides and have all races/classes available. Not a single Granok sided with the Dominion?
 
Just some thoughts I had after a weekend long bout of Wildstar. Happy Monday!
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Damn these youngins wanting everything now /waves walking stick around
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Just a side note, I think GW2 was an awful game. 
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It was a great game for me.  Even when I worked there and got burned out on content, it was great.  But everything that's happened since the New Player Experience (which ANet has apparently decided to repeal in the next expansion) put me so far off the game that I'll never go back.
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Wildstar as done a lot of innovative things but has also held onto some MMO legacy systems that just need to go away. I rank Guild Wars 2 and the most progressive in breaking outdated systems.
 
Mail boxes: Why of why do games make me track down a mail box to get my mail. Especially in a techno world. Just let me access it anywhere any time.
 
Sprinting: Personally I hate having to manage my sprint bar. Just let me run fast infinitely unless I'm engaged in combat. Pick one ground speed and if I want to go even faster then I bust out my mount.
 
Rest Exp: For the non level 50ers out there, I'd like the concept of rest ext to go away. I think Wildstar did a wonderful job of working it into the housing system but I still hate leveling up an alt without rest exp. I'll often not play an alt unless his rest ext bar is full and as soon as its empty I feel like I'm not being efficient, I feel jipped.
 
Running back to turn in a quests: Any and all quests should be remotely complete-able. Wildstar has a majority that are but i still find myself back tracking too often just to turn in a quest.
 
Race exclusive sides: Just make your sides and have all races/classes available. Not a single Granok sided with the Dominion?
 
Just some thoughts I had after a weekend long bout of Wildstar. Happy Monday!
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Mailboxes: A minor inconvenience, but you can collect money from mail anywhere in the game. If I am collecting items then I'm probably sending between alts or buying from AH/CX, both scenarios which I would also be right next to a mailbox to obtain the items.
 
Sprinting: Follow up with people saying that the "new default speed" is suddenly too slow and that sprinting should also be back. This is fine, try buying a riding license for your mounts.
 
Rest Exp: It is a bonus for taking downtime, and an added incentive to housing. Plenty of other buffs too including housing board, guild EXP buff and guild flasks.
 
Running back: Going back to quests NPCs or quest hubs is something I like, since it gives an opportunity for a breather to sell stuff and look at where you need to go next. This only happens with perhaps 10% of the quests anyway with the rest being Datachron calls, this is fine as it is IMO.
 
Race exclusive sides: No, don't break down the barrier. I would rather see some more interesting stuff come from an already in-game lore thing like COGS instead of just allowing faction-specific races joining any side. It is what makes things interesting in lore and a competitive environment.	
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Mailboxes: A minor inconvenience, but you can collect money from mail anywhere in the game. If I am collecting items then I'm probably sending between alts or buying from AH/CX, both scenarios which I would also be right next to a mailbox to obtain the items.
 
Sprinting: Follow up with people saying that the "new default speed" is suddenly too slow and that sprinting should also be back. This is fine, try buying a riding license for your mounts.
 
Rest Exp: It is a bonus for taking downtime, and an added incentive to housing. Plenty of other buffs too including housing board, guild EXP buff and guild flasks.
 
Running back: Going back to quests NPCs or quest hubs is something I like, since it gives an opportunity for a breather to sell stuff and look at where you need to go next. This only happens with perhaps 10% of the quests anyway with the rest being Datachron calls, this is fine as it is IMO.
 
Race exclusive sides: No, don't break down the barrier. I would rather see some more interesting stuff come from an already in-game lore thing like COGS instead of just allowing faction-specific races joining any side. It is what makes things interesting in lore and a competitive environment.
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			I disagree with pretty much everything in the OP, except the bit about mail boxes. It would be truly wonderful if these things fell off the MMO train for good. What's the point; immersion? That's already been ruined by the fact that you can see all your mail while not at a mailbox, not to mention that immersion is a terrible reason for mailboxes anyway. I'd really like to know why mailboxes are still a thing.	
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Only thing I agree on is mailboxes as well...
 
 
One thing about the running back that I feel should be mentioned is that in many cases(from what I experienced) you have to go back to an NPC because it breadcrumbs you to something else nearby. It feels right to me when it's done in most if not all cases.	
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I disagree with pretty much everything in the OP, except the bit about mail boxes. It would be truly wonderful if these things fell off the MMO train for good. What's the point; immersion? That's already been ruined by the fact that you can see all your mail while not at a mailbox, not to mention that immersion is a terrible reason for mailboxes anyway. I'd really like to know why mailboxes are still a thing.
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What is the NPE? As bad as when SWG did it?
 
EDIT: I just couldnt get into GW2, no holy trinity?!
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New Player Experience.  It applied to everyone, even seasoned veterans.  It basically turned the game's progression system into one giant hand-holding festival, locking key skills and unlocks behind higher and higher levels.  Elite Skills used to unlock at 30; they changed it to 60.
 
Basically, ANet tried to make the game idiot proof, but all it did was crap on vet players and confuse new ones.
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don't remind me.....what a horrible change that was...
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			Re: Mailboxes. If you limit the opportunities for mail to be retrieved, you lower the overall stress on the mailing system. It's just a convenient, contextual way of limiting server requests for the mailing system.	
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Mail boxes: Why of why do games make me track down a mail box to get my mail. Especially in a techno world. Just let me access it anywhere any time.
100% agreed.  There should be no reason why I ever have to go to a mailbox to pickup items. The only people that would be upset about this are roleplayers (who can still go to mailboxes if they want), and fire buff givers, I mean settlers.
 
Sprinting: Personally I hate having to manage my sprint bar. Just let me run fast infinitely unless I'm engaged in combat. Pick one ground speed and if I want to go even faster then I bust out my mount.
Agreed.  Permanent sprint out of combat please.
 
Rest Exp: For the non level 50ers out there, I'd like the concept of rest ext to go away. I think Wildstar did a wonderful job of working it into the housing system but I still hate leveling up an alt without rest exp. I'll often not play an alt unless his rest ext bar is full and as soon as its empty I feel like I'm not being efficient, I feel jipped.
Other games, and what I've preferred, are flat XP buffs to characters that aren't your main character.  Instead of being offline for X amount of time, I should simply have a flat 50% buff to xp gain on each of my alts, everytime.  The amount of times I've simply chosen to play something else / go do something else are pretty high, when given the choice of leveling without rested xp.
 
Running back to turn in a quests: Any and all quests should be remotely complete-able. Wildstar has a majority that are but i still find myself back tracking too often just to turn in a quest.
I think they do this to make sure you pick up the next quests in a series, something thats most likely going to be in the vicinity.  Having to run back to the hub kind of gives purpose to the hub anyway, as well give you proximity to the unnecessary mailbox, vendors, recall point, etc.
 
Race exclusive sides: Just make your sides and have all races/classes available. Not a single Granok sided with the Dominion?
I do think they're wasting a lot of potential here, but it is my understanding that they just haven't created the models / animations / riggings for "Chua Warrior," for instance.  I'm sure that could be something in the expansion, but yes, at launch it should have been there.  I don't think I would have held launch exclusively for Chua Warriors though.
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What is the NPE? As bad as when SWG did it?
 
EDIT: I just couldnt get into GW2, no holy trinity?!
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I do think they're wasting a lot of potential here, but it is my understanding that they just haven't created the models / animations / riggings for "Chua Warrior," for instance.  I'm sure that could be something in the expansion, but yes, at launch it should have been there.  I don't think I would have held launch exclusively for Chua Warriors though.
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