119550-can-we-have-a-santa-hat-for-christmas-cheer

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I know you guys at carbine are hard at work fixing the game so no xmas celebrations will not be happening this year but getting santa hat's or even a santa outfit (but just the hat would be fine) would be really nice to bring in the festive mood!
 
Just an idea for something small/easy and fast to design for the community to put in game to give it a bit of xmas spirit!
 
 
/signed
 
SIGN UP TO SHOW WE WANT A CHRISTMAS HAT LOL
 
ps: to Carbine. if enough people do sign for a hat and it shows up in game it would be a massive free PR boost showing how much you listen to us. Just a thought B-)	
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Please no.
 
This is an alien planet, a million galaxies away from the milky way, one of the last things I wanna see is the Christmas infection on Nexus.
Infact, scratch that, I dont wanna see ANY earthly related holidays or random influences beyond the popculture shoved into the game as it is.	
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Please no.
 
This is an alien planet, a million galaxies away from the milky way, one of the last things I wanna see is the Christmas infection on Nexus.
Infact, scratch that, I dont wanna see ANY earthly related holidays or random influences beyond the popculture shoved into the game as it is.
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Ahh, the grinch that stole christmas, from Nexus :)
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			holy crap, did you not get any presents as a kid?	
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holy crap, did you not get any presents as a kid?
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			If we get to shoot down this mysterious "Santa" fellow spreading Exile propaganda througout rightful Dominion land and take the hat from his expiring corpse, then yes, I support your idea.	
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			Perhaps just a winter theme. Snowing somewhere? Been Jewish since birth and really don't appreciate people shoving Christmas into everything. It's not that I'm not tolerant of other religions, I just prefer non-denominational neutrality. 	
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Perhaps just a winter theme. Snowing somewhere? Been Jewish since birth and really don't appreciate people shoving Christmas into everything. It's not that I'm not tolerant of other religions, I just prefer non-denominational neutrality. 
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I Just like the joy of the season :)
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Umm
 
How about a Santa hat with a star of david on it for a logo :D ?
 
I would wear it!
 
I don't care about religion, I Just like the joy of the season :)
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Carbine have already said several times that the christmas analogue in W* is a hyper capitalist consumer based holiday ran by protostar, a little bit of a tongue-in-cheek poke at what the holiday irl has turned into
 
Honestly I think a much closer hat would be one that has massive marketing and advertising slogans projected out of it in all directions, showing off all the new protostar products available 	
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			I'd like a festive hat of some sort, as well... compliments of Protostar! ;D	
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I'd like a festive hat of some sort, as well... compliments of Protostar! ;D
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			i'm guessing this threads gonna get shut down :) 	
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Because nothing says joy better than violence at the local walmart, over an xbox.
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Umm
 
How about a Santa hat with a star of david on it for a logo :D ?
 
I would wear it!
 
I don't care about religion, I Just like the joy of the season :)
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Please no.
 
This is an alien planet, a million galaxies away from the milky way, one of the last things I wanna see is the Christmas infection on Nexus.
Infact, scratch that, I dont wanna see ANY earthly related holidays or random influences beyond the popculture shoved into the game as it is.
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			Honestly it is nice to have seasonal holidays that coincide with the real world. I always prefer in a game that they make some sense lore wise, but the timing is nice. Many cultures throughout history have had seasonal holidays in which many overlap on a calendar. We could go on and on as to why this is, but that doesn't matter. If we take religion, politics, and economics out of it and just leave the good then we have something we can share. Giving of yourself and receiving in kind make for me at least a great combination that brings warmth to my heart. Something of this nature I would always welcome and support.	
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			I want a big tacky hat with a neon green flashing giftbox with a Protostar logo on top.  ;)	
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I think alot of people here are confusing the RELIGION with the spirit of the season :)
 
I for example don't care for the religion, but i love the colors, the lights and the spirit of fun and celebration this time of year brings!
 
My only intent in asking for hats has NOTHING to do with ANY RELIGION.
 
Just some simple fun for everyone :)
 
 
And as for people not liking a christmas theme or somthing close to it, I would suggest you might want to get used to it. WS does have one, we just didn't get it this year but we definately will next year :D	
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No more like the anti-theist who hates the exploitation of people with consumerist culture in a society that doesn't care to restrain itself.
And Santa? More like Parents work their ass off to buy their kids presents and gifts, and some fake fatboy takes the credit.
Result, exploited parents, and spoiled children who don't have any respect for the people who feed them.
Screw that.
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too late they have shades eve and a winter celebration planned for next year.
 
I want a hat, don't let this grouch steal them from us.
I'm even hosting a Christmas event in the next few weeks..and there will be gift giving :)
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What a horribly immersion breaking thing to bring into a game.
A whole god damned planet millions of light years away from any Earthly contact within a specific time frame of a few centuries, and yet you bring in a nearly blatently associated Westerner's holiday associated mostly with a Christian influence.
Unfortunately Christmas in it's current form is associated with Christian influence...
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			I wouldn't mind seeing Santa hats becoming available. I wouldn't wear them because I'm too fond of my berets but if others want them I don't see why they shouldn't be added, even if they were only available during the holidays.	
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What a horribly immersion breaking thing to bring into a game.
A whole god damned planet millions of light years away from any Earthly contact within a specific time frame of a few centuries, and yet you bring in a nearly blatently associated Westerner's holiday associated mostly with a Christian influence.
Unfortunately Christmas in it's current form is associated with Christian influence...
 
 
Yeah let's bring an specifically Earthly thing into a specifically not earth associated game.
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			Aside from the grumpy grumps who want to pee all over holiday celebrations, I don't see a problem with a couple of hat options, like a holly wreath or evergreen wreath, a stocking cap, candles, something winter-holiday-ish without being outright Christmas or Hanukkah or Kwanzaa or Yule or whatever you choose to celebrate.	
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			I'd take a Festivus hat. :)	
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I wouldn't mind a dye-able hat in my inventory.   I mean you can sort of make one now, but still a little jingly bell on my head wouldn't hurt anything.   And it's not like other people have to accept it from their inventory if they don't celebrate or like it.  It's not really offensive since (based on a little google-fu research) the grand majority of nations celebrate Christmas or something like it.  And some of those that do, are not based in religion.   
 
If they can't do it for us, no biggie.  Next year possibly.  Until then, tailors can make the hood hats for people to buy cheap, and they can dye it red and white.  We should at least get a Protostar Phineasanta Clausenstien.	
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I also wasn't aware that the western themes and motifs that are present throughout the game aren't specifically Earthly.
While we're on the subject, isn't everyone in the game who comes from the planet Cassus (both Cassians and Exiles) human? Humans, last I checked, were Earthlings.
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Holy Shitmas Batsanta!
It's a Festive hat FFS, quit whining about religion.	
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1. Non specific cultural influences and demographics feature an example of representation of Diversity.
 
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I wish to introduce you to the Vigilant Church. It's a fine organization wearing a blanket with the words "we are a christian church no really!" written on the edges (Hello, apocryphal Jesus and Virgin Mary I MEAN DOMINUS AND SWORDMAIDEN TORIA) and they are wearing a fine jacket made of "We are really the Roman pantheon but don't tell anyone" (Hello, most important deity Mars I MEAN AZRION).
 
It's a very obvious and specific cultural influence of the real world into the Wildstar world, that's what I'm saying. If that didn't shatter your immersion or whatever, I'm sure a properly explained hat wouldn't do so either.
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1. Non specific cultural influences and demographics feature an example of representation of Diversity.
 
2. Humans while obviously only an earthly evolutionary result, these said creatures design games for an immersion based on ourselves as a species, which is why so many fantasy world characters are hominids or variation of human forms.
What the point of the matter is, WildStar is a lot like Lord of the Rings in the sense that it's a relatable alternate earth setup placed in a distant galaxy.
Now imagine how awkward it'd be to see Santa, and Jesus Christ, within the Lord of the Rings movies, Kinda out of place and broken for it's introduction into a world in which it doesn't obviously belong.
 
That's the whole point in the first place.
The idea of a human experience in a fantasy fiction world is relatable but the inclusion of a very specific consumerist exploitation holiday is the apitomy of breaking the tone of a lore basis and game.
 
Instead why not invent or adhere to an expectation of Lore based holidays, like what exactly do Mordesh celebrate? Surely Cassians have some sort of day of remembrance or an Aurin Celebration day of Nature.
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I'm sure CARBINE is just as bummed as we are they couldn't provide us with a halloween variation or a Christmas one, and its not because they don't want too. I thought this would just be a small way for them and us to have a little fun without them having to deviate from their workload of making the game improvements :)
 
As for the haters: Deal with it. Because next year its coming whether you like it or not, just like the halloween varation and I personally cannot wait! We have the other ELEVEN MONTHS of the year for Nexus to look normal. God forbid for 14 days or 336 hours that something look different in Nexus!	
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Or even a Protostar-invented attempt to induce a frenzy of mass consumerism that happens to occur around the Winter Solstice? That seems like it would adhere perfectly to the entire concept of Protostar! 
 
Problem solved!
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I'm heading off to work, but please continue telling us how much you hate Christmas because of religious reasons. Please continue making this thread about you. You need to get a wider perspective on your life views hun.
 
As for the event I was planning? Midwinter Mystery Monday- the Jabbit Gift Exchange Masquerade (CHRISTMAS) Ball will be happening on the 15th of this month. And it'll be both immersion breaking and immersion- making depending on who shows up and how it turns out.
 
Happy Christmas, may the Devs give us hats and the winter be kind to you.	
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how much you hate Christmas because of religious reasons
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			Seriously, stop crapping all over this thread with your negative nancy song and dance. We get it, you've made your point. You don't want it. Move on.	
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How the hell do we even know if Nexus even has a winter season or seasons at all?
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Seriously, stop crapping all over this thread with your negative nancy song and dance. We get it, you've made your point. You don't want it. Move on.
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Because in this vast sea of information where everyone is treated as equal faceless and has an equal say in everything I'm not allowed to have my opinion because it's against the grain of others and those whom disagree must go so far as to misrepresent my opinion, include personal attacks and interest as to count my opinion as invalid.
You and everyone else could have just ignore my post and got along with your lives, rather than getting in an uproar and me having to correct the misrepresentations of what my opinion was.
Instead people made an attempt to illegitimize and misrepresent my opinion, so what did you expect for me to stand back or instead return the favor and clarify for those whom were overreacting to my equally valid and unoffensive opinion.
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we could have ignored your out of place Christmas hate posts.
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This is exactly what I was refering to.
My opinion isn't out of place, its pertinent to the subject and request reguardless if it agrees or not with the topic's request.
 
This statement pretty much concludes that my opinion is lesser than others because it disagrees with your opinion.
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Wow this post took quite the twist. Find it quite hilarious it's over having a red hat with a white pom-pom on the top
 
 
Last time I checked, Santa's big red has was coca cola's fault - go blame them	
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The current modernized motivation of Christmas is Christian influence and Consumerist culture.
 
 
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Because in this vast sea of information where everyone is treated as equal faceless and has an equal say in everything I'm not allowed to have my opinion because it's against the grain of others and those whom disagree must go so far as to misrepresent my opinion, include personal attacks and interest as to count my opinion as invalid.
You and everyone else could have just ignore my post and got along with your lives, rather than getting in an uproar and me having to correct the misrepresentations of what my opinion was.
Instead people made an attempt to illegitimize and misrepresent my opinion, so what did you expect for me to stand back or instead return the favor and clarify for those whom were overreacting to my equally valid and unoffensive opinion.
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			Despite whatever strange out-of-place reservations you have against Christmas, the inclusion of these holidays in wildstar, or the reasons you have tried to provide as to why they shouldn't happen, it is CONFIRMED all over the internet by Carbine themselves that they have actively been working on holidays, and they will be in the game next year. SO, whatever you feel like saying, it's going to happen, and we will all enjoy it, with or without you.	
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			Some people take this way too seriously. How can you get offended by a freaking santa hat. I'd have to question your priorities in life if you can't handle a single santa hat. 	
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Last time I checked, Santa's big red has was coca cola's fault - go blame them
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Actually, that is an urban legend. See Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/santa/cocacola.asp
 
(Snopes is a site that digs up the truth behind urban legends and myths.)
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Or even a Protostar-invented attempt to induce a frenzy of mass consumerism that happens to occur around the Winter Solstice? That seems like it would adhere perfectly to the entire concept of Protostar! 
 
Problem solved!
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Because in this vast sea of information where everyone is treated as equal faceless and has an equal say in everything I'm not allowed to have my opinion because it's against the grain of others and those whom disagree must go so far as to misrepresent my opinion, include personal attacks and interest as to count my opinion as invalid.
You and everyone else could have just ignore my post and got along with your lives, rather than getting in an uproar and me having to correct the misrepresentations of what my opinion was.
Instead people made an attempt to illegitimize and misrepresent my opinion, so what did you expect for me to stand back or instead return the favor and clarify for those whom were overreacting to my equally valid and unoffensive opinion.
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This thread is fun, and a reminder of why I love the internet. It's like a mini-crusade or pitch-fork mob in every thread.  
 
Rage on friends, rage on.	
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I thought it had to do with game-breaking immersion.
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Multifaceted point.
1. I dislike the holiday itself because of the exploitive nature behind it.
(This explains why i don't like the holiday)
2. I don't think it should be in game because it's immersion breaking.
(This is explains why I think it shouldn't be in game) 
Actually no because I don't celebrate Halloween either. I just like the concept of it but you're right, it's a whored out consumerist holiday like most of them.
It's just that christmas is taken to the extreme.
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Wow...this thread is going places...
 
Anyway I'd be all for a hat or something or maybe even a lore article, OR BOTH!
 
We've had a brief explanation of shade's eve and the reason for it, which i liked. Though it's more of a time of rememberance it does give a bit more depth to the culture, many cultures from what I've seen tend to celebrate a either a common theme or a in a general range of seasons/time. Some holidays even spawn from the influence of others to "make it their own".
 
Regardless though, I'd love to least know what exiles and Dominion do around this time of year since we already know that they celebrate something. So a lore article would be great at least :)	
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I checked into this, and unfortunately it looks like we won't be able to get you a festive hat for the holidays this year. Sorry, folks. There's always next year! :)
 
Regarding holidays and relation to the real world (since apparently there's been quite a lively debate!), I've gone into this before, but let me explain a li'l game design theory here.
 
First, I am not an advocate for putting Halloween or Christmas in a game wholesale. That takes me out of the experience the game is offering. Now I know that people get a little tired of spooky holidays in October or festive ones with conspicuously familiar colors in December, but there's a very good reason why this is done. Similar to having humans as a race, it's a familiar and comfortable launching point that players are more likely to get into, particularly considering the time. Having, say, a spooky holiday in April just feels wrong to a playerbase; it's jarring and it takes more effort to get into it than the same holiday presented around Halloween time. Putting it simply, you're more likely to be in the mood and have a good time with it when it lines up with what's going on in the real world. And we are, if nothing else, meant to bring entertainment. ;)
 
Regarding Protostar's Winterfest specifically, we've given a lore post before. In essence, it is consumerism in its purest, most hyperbolic form. Protostar comes by with their giant mall in the sky and brings amazing deals and (probably fake) winter themes to the planet they're visiting at that given moment. Participants arrange their purchases on a conical shelf, basking in the glow of tchotchkes new and old. People hang old credit cards and money signs in garlands around their cities. Why, Phineas himself has been known to make an appearance!
 
Clearly the flying mall is in for repairs this year, but perhaps they'll visit in the future. ;)	
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			Since Caydiem has answered all of our burning questions I'm locking this one up as some of the debates have gotten close to crossing the line.  In my eyes, no one is wrong because everyone is entitled to their opinion.  However how you express that opinion is usually what gets you into trouble. Lets all treat each other with more understanding and respect especially when dealing with such sensitive topics. Hope you understand, thank you all.	
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