138513-so-new-player-hitting-50-atlast-need-help

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So me and my brother were playing since F2P launched, and we finally hit 50, but now im pretty overwhelmed by the content, now before you tell me "go read and search", I'v tried and seen stuff but almost everything is outdated, searching for amps? shiphands? ( I think it's expedition now?)
 
Also everyone saying on the forums, DONT DO VET DUNGEONS - apperntly my lvling gear isnt enough, which I understand, so what now? in my lvling time, all I did were dungeons and BG (mostly quests, but dungeons and bg when the q popped) So all I know are dungeons for PvE (yea I wanna focus PvE).
 
So if not dungeons, then what? and here few more questions I got if you guys are already reading :) 
 
1- Eldar points/Gems I understand I got them from doing "dailies" in crimson somthing, which I only did cuz I was waiting for my brother to get to 50 aswell, seems like it replacing EXP ? what do I do with it? didnt find any vendors for it. also is there cap? daily cap? would like few words about this.
 
2- So many currencies, Glory,Renown,Prestige - ?? (and I probobly missed somthing)
 
3- again, if not vet dungeons, what should I do? (im pretty vet at raiding in other games, it wont shock me if I had to do many dailies or rep farms so dont be shy)
 
4- Is there any really good ways to make cash? currently I was selling the amp/ap items for some plats me and my bro got around 40 togther, is there any good gear to buy?
 
All in all, best combat iv seen in a mmo, so far we had such blast, this is my bro first game he reached max lvl, but with the lack of intrudoction to lvl 50 and so many stuff to do (which is great dont get me wrong), we are pretty lost. (and we dont wanna bug the community with entering stuff we dont have enough gear/skill to do)
 
BTW, from this overwhelming we just started new toons on Jabbit 2 exiles (our mains on jabbit 1 dominion) is it worth to lvl to 50 again just for the understanding of the game?
 
Iv seen so far the community is great (well most of it, with f2p alot of toxicity prob came), I would really appreiciate any help :)
 
AND SRY ABOUT MY BAD ENGLISH.	
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Hi and welcome to endgame (or elder content if you will)! First thing I advise doing is running veteran expeditions until you can buy a full set of blue gear from the expedition vendor. Once you have that all runed up, you can have a shot at veteran dungeons. Ideally, if you haven't already, find yourself a guild to run those with and maybe even move on to raiding after that if it interests you.
Alternatively you can level up crafting and get yourself geared up through that.
 
The dailies are worth doing if you need the plat, so check those out as well if you've the time for them.	
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Hi there,
 
Some questions to your answers. Others may add more info as required.
 
For vet dungeons, you should have at least crafted blue gear and some basic runes in it. The best way for gear progession is farming vet expeditions (previously called shiphands) until you get gold medal for all of them. Then you can buy some decent gear from the shiphand vendor near the contract board (can't look up which currency you have to use since I am not ingame, but could be renown which you get for group content and solo expeditions). Vet adventures (except Bay of Betrayal) are not too hard in leveling gear, so you can also go there to get some gear for vet dungeons.
 
1- Elder game: It just works as if you get XP. There is a weekly max of 140 points, iirc. You can fill the XP bar up to get the weekly max. If you do OmniCore 1 (solo dungeon) and the elder gem weekly, you get some additional points on top of the weekly cap. If you are capped, all XP will get converted to gold.
 
2- You get Glory for vet dungeons. This is the currency for better gear and some cosmetics later on. You earn renown by grouping up and doing solo expeditions. Prestige is the pvp currency you get for doing pvp battlegrounds.
 
3- See above. Also try to farm reputation for different factions to get max AMP and ability points to improve your character's performance.
 
4- Make cash by doing contracts, dailies (especially after Elder gem cap) and playing AH and CX (commodity exchange). The really good gear is gated behind achievements (killing dungeon and raid bosses, getting gold medals, etc.) and other currencies. The only gear you can buy for gold is crafted items from AH.
 
Last hint: I strongly recommend finding a guild. This will improve your game experience immensely.
 
See you on Nexus.	
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Hey. What server are you on? Maybe i can give you guys a hand since im stuck on Jabit without my guild anyway atm. 
 
Not doing vet dungeons as fresh 50... i call bullshit on that one. The Wildstar dungeons are all about avoiding shit. If it has not changed from before there are no hard dps checks and very little white dmg so as long as you all stay alive and play tight you can get away with being under geared.. You can solo Skullcano as a good player with some classes (except) an optional boss).  That being said its not bad to prepare your self to make life easier. 
 
Now days there are tons of content to start with if you wanna take it slow. Send me an pm ingame if you want some pointers. (Wendo Vanderatis). I have been a way for a while so i am no expert on the f2p lunch content and i bit before that but i have farmed vet end game content like no tomorrow. 
 
And remember... Have fun! This game has the best dungeon/raids ever made and the second is not even close. 
 
 
ps. As the dude said above. "Get a guild!" best tip you can get really. 
			
				
	Edited October 7, 2015 by Wendo	
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1. Elder gems can be spent at the elder gem vendor, for Dominion there is one by the contracts board.  They sell a wide range of stuff from mounts and costumes, to amp/ability point upgrades.  Unless it has changed post-F2P you could earn 120 Elder Gems a week, plus earn a bonus 40 from completing one of the weekly elder gem quests from the capital cities notice board (either questing, group PvE, or PvP orientated).
 
2.  Glory is a currency you earn from vet dungeons for better gear, prestige is your PvP currency, and renown is also for PvE gear and various other things you can check out at the renown vendor in your housing plot.
 
3.  If you have just hit 50, I would recommend achieving Gold in all of the veteran Expeditions - as this will allow you to buy your first amp point upgrade from the Expeditions vendor.  You will also earn a heap of renown, which you can use to buy some half decent blue pve gear from the same vendor.  If you rune this gear out, you might be okay to head to vet dungeons, but as a new player you are probably better off starting off with veteran adventures.  Also check out some of the Reputation vendors in the high level zones, if you've earnt beloved status they might have some good PvE items to buy to get you started.
 
4.  For gear, see above.  For gold... just play the game however you like and the money will start to build up.  Pick up contracts from the Contracts Board and try to work them into however you play the game for extra bonuses.	
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It's understandable that it can seem overwhelming at first, yes. I would say that it's definitely worth playing another character up to 50. Since there are 6 classes, you might even find something else you like or even enjoy more. If you want to tank and heal, you need a second character anyway. I run 3 myself to get some variation, even though they all are very melee and similar in that manner.
 
I can also offer a hand, if you wish. My characters can be found in my signature. Just give me a shout.
			
				
	Edited October 7, 2015 by Alysion	
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At last? The game has barely been out a few days and mostly unplayable.  At last you're 50?  Such a struggle.  So much effort!
 
The entitlement generation is truly astounding.
 
Anyways.
 
Anybody else think it's moronic design to spend millions of dollars and upwards of 5 years making a game that's 90% solo content just to watch players obliterate that content in a handful of hours played?
 
No wonder this kind of rubbish leads to F2P.  Who sane would pay regularly for this.	
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Actually we want you to do vet dungeons, they are a ton of fun and you need to do them for your attunement and to get gear for GA.
We want the new players to be raiders so carbine has to create raid content faster and does not focuss on new cosmetic stuff or nerfing dungeons or w/e.
But veteran dungeons are just not doable for the average player when they just hit 50.
They didnt play in their role in group before so they have no idea how to position themselves at the encounters. (as a general rule dont stand in the tank, try to flank the boss).
Also the gear is not runed OR just with just a low itemlevel so you wont reach 3k+ dps in every fight (which is the minimum dps the encounters are designed around and which has been said multiple times by the devs). 3k dps is obv not much but if you die you do 0 dps. when you ignore boss mechanics you wont reach 3k dps in alot of encounters.
to the questions:
1) EG is your xp at 50. there are EG vendors in the capitals. you can find them at various places. the most common place is where the PvP/PvE vendors are and where you find the daily quests. He is right there. Most important things to get here are AMPs and Skillpoints, later more action sets. since AMPs cost 320 and skillpoints 400 you will have a slow progression here but you can buy as many as you want from these vendors. on our server skillpoints are 2-3 more expensive in the AH so dont buy AMPs in the beginning from Elder gems.
 
2) yea this is super confusing for new players. we veteran got it step by step. Renown you get from participating in group content. Glory you earn in dungeons, Prestige from PvP, Ominibits from everything... This system is super messed up but ok.... i wont go into details what you can buy off each. just find the vendors they are at the daily hubs. Ask guards if you dont find it. last resort -> google it.
 
3) veteran shiphands errr expeditions/adventures give you gear and amps/skillpoint + more. again find the vendors at the daily questhub. you can get amps/skillpoints from pvp. there are some good rewards for zone rep that are better than dungeon loot (depends on class/spec) and BiS preraid. contract rewards give you a level 50 epic weapon this should be your first goal since its the biggest AP/SP increase. i would not do runing at this stage of the gear. save the expensive mats for BiS preraid gear from dungeons/zone rep.
 
4) get the EG (elder gem) limit early in the week. you will get alot of gold since it will be converted into gold. Selling those amps/skillpoints was a bad idea. you need to be maxed out on those for lategame pve builds. afaik you can buy pvp gear with it but wildstar is not paytowin. you need to earn your gear.
 
 
The game is not alt friendly. everything you accomplish with your main you will need to do again with your alt. i would advise to only play 1 char IF you want to raid and max him out as good as possible so you find a raidguild that is interested in you. Also get a 2nd spec and get it runed. the setups are not fixed. sometimes you need 3-4 tanks, often just 1-2. same for healers.
 
Nice to have you as a part of the community and your english is more than fine. :p	
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Hey. What server are you on? Maybe i can give you guys a hand since im stuck on Jabit without my guild anyway atm. 
 
Not doing vet dungeons as fresh 50... i call bullshit on that one. The Wildstar dungeons are all about avoiding shit. If it has not changed from before there are no hard dps checks and very little white dmg. You can solo Skullcano as a good player with some classes (except) an optional boss).  That being said its not bad to prepare your self to make life easier. 
 
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While player skill is more valuable than gear it is a problem if your dps is too low and the healer can't keep up after a while due to running out of mana for example. And some bosses do have soft enrage timers where they do more and more damage towards the end which also makes it really difficult for the healer. But if you have a very geared healer of course you can make it. But going into a dungeon  where everyone has greens might not be the best idea. 
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Ye its true come to think about it there are some. Stomtalon for example. Thing is that if ppl stay alive and play well the gear needed is not that impressive. 
 
Thing is if eveyone has green gear and is a new lv 50 you can still do dungeons. You might not finish the dungeon you might not do that even with awesome gear but thats ok is it not?
 
In WS you need to take the time to evolve into a great player. 
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			Gear is not really more than something that raise the potential output, skill is what utilize that potential and make something out of it. So balance is fairly important. Different situations require more of either one or the other, but you can never have enough of either one of them :)	
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Well thx everyone, I think I got the hang of it, Ill try do some expeditions, when i'll hit constantly 3k dps+ and feel more use to the combat, ill try hitting vet dungeons, meanwhile waiting on q's do the contracts /quests (though iv took contract it isnt really understandble, but ill log on and try to get it myself).
 
On another note, this community seems pretty great, which is really the core of any mmo, aside from 1 salty dude (which btw, lvling to 50 with all the lags and server issues were kinda hard, so yea "atlast") you all seem really awesome :) thx everyone .	
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			The vet dungeons are not hard: you need to know what is going on; pay attention to what is going on around you (this is key).	
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