148511-bots-bots-bots-everywhere-you-turn

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Merry Xmas, here's 15+ spam mails in your in-game postbox from gold sellers... joy.
 
Also.. one screenshot from thayd, from one part...  (all players here have been reported, by many people already including myself)
 
Carbine please do something about these bots, especially in PVP as they are messing up pvp and our economy and your profit margins.
 
thx
 
			
				
	Edited December 26, 2015 by Stalk	
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			uhm.. do people even buy gold from these guys? isn't that what credd is for?	
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			when credd is in a shitty place (which it is), gold sellers make profit because it's cheaper to buy from them than from the game itself.	
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they were all kicked! but it didn't last long...
 
why not just ban free accounts that are under level 10 from talking in Thayd? or ban every IP that logs in from that circle they are all in? I dunno...
 
			
				
	Edited December 27, 2015 by Stalk	
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			I've only been messaged a few times from gold sellers on entity dominion, probably less than 5 times since f2p	
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			This is more an EU problem than a US one, unfortunately. :(	
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This is more an EU problem than a US one, unfortunately. :(
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uhm.. do people even buy gold from these guys? isn't that what credd is for?
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It's getting worse... up to 18 now.
 
Carbine, pls... just type  "/who sell" and ban every account these players are from and the IP from which they came, this is getting ridiculous.
 
EDIT: since composing this message I have got even more mails from spamsellers...
 
I remember when this was a problem back in wow early days and somebody made an addon which blacklists players who have been reported by more than 5 people who have this addon and syncs this data to everyone else who has the addon, crippling these idiots who are destroying our game.
 
			
				
	Edited December 27, 2015 by Stalk	
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For my own experimentation I've made an EU account, and this is what I've found.
 
 
Level 18 Walatiki. Out of 20 people, 18 were bots. They are definitely not over-exaggerating on this problem. Though I must admit it's kind of fun watching an ant-line of bots run to their deaths over and over again.	
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Talk about poisoning the well ... Are these bot makers even aware of how they are depreciating the market they are attempting to sell to? Do they even care?
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			Talk about poisoning the well ... Are these bot makers even aware of how they are depreciating the market they are attempting to sell to? Do they even care?	
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they were all kicked! but it didn't last long...
 
why not just ban free accounts that are under level 10 from talking in Thayd? or ban every IP that logs in from that circle they are all in? I dunno...
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Maybe we can make it into a game called "spot the bot".
 
We really need the anti-gold blacklisting addon that wow had...
 
Today's pic:
			
				
	Edited December 28, 2015 by Stalk	
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Hi all,
 
We do apologize for the inconvenience here and are aware of the issue. Our team is looking into it.
 
Thank you for your continued patience,
 
-Team WildStar	
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I've not seen as many spam bots but I've seen a LOT of leveling bots just running around shooting mobs, not doing the quests at all. It's actually kind of impressive the level of A.I. they have developed for these things. They seem to be at least a little adaptive like if you kill all the mobs in their path they will suddenly turn around and reverse path.
 
As a Spellspinger it's fun to lure lots of mobs into their AOE and watch them die when I drop combat.  	
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			Could of just sent all these pics to Crabine directly instead its more like a bit of extra advertising but yea they need to do something about the gold sellers but also look into why CREDD is failing.	
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Could of just sent all these pics to Crabine directly instead its more like a bit of extra advertising but yea they need to do something about the gold sellers but also look into why CREDD is failing.
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This is the perfect oppertunity for everyone to switch back to the pvp server.
If they follow, we just kill them dead
over
and over
and over again.
 
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			I have yet to see one bot in a bg since f2p, wish they invaded NA servers, at least then we'd get pops. best suggestion was to let bots go free till 50..then ban um....cant stand pve leveling, let me beat up some bots like u pve'ers do in raids.	
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1. Add an option so person can chose who he wish be able send mail to him A: anyone B: anyone on max level (and social groups) C: social groups only
 
2. block people below level 10 from entering Thayd - when player below level 10 changes zone to Thayd, he automaticaly gets teleported back to designated spot in previous zone
 
3. disallow players below level 10 to joining guilds or circles
 
4. block people below level 20 from joining custom channels
 
5. autoblock all communication chanels + mail usage from any player that has been reported by over 40 other people (without waiting on human GM action) - possible abuse would ofc be sanctioned by bans to abusers
 
6. add limit on how many mails per X time you can send (remove this restriction when you reach max level)
 
7. Add CAPCHA (anti robot) protection to PVP SiGNUP
 
Carbine pls
			
				
	Edited December 31, 2015 by Gothix	
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You have been wondering in your other post why the captcha suggestion got no likes. It's because captchas make everything worse.
Every time a site asks me to guess at one of the more terrible captchas I seriously question if I really want to use the site and from what I can tell they don't do a lot to keep bots out anyway.
 
From where I'm standing captchas are a lot like DRM that does nothing but punish legit customers while the things it's supposed to protect get pirated anyway.
 
Just yesterday I listened to a friend trying to sign up to the alienware site for the chrome costume giveaway, what should have been a nice freebie turned into a 20 minute ordeal that just left him somewhat angry at me for even mentioning the giveaway because of the stupid captcha system they use.
 
 
The only way I see this getting a short term solution is giving the community the tools to handle it, let us build our own blacklists to filter chat and mails and add a medal system to PvP that requires a modicum of participation to get rewards.
I'm probably the worst PvP player in existence but even I manage to easily outperform the bot lemmings.
 
A long term solution is trickier, there's not much else one can do besides monitoring where the gold ends up and then banning the bots and everyone who bought from them. Drill it into peoples' heads that buying gold poses a very real risk of losing their account.
The only lasting solution is making the whole thing so unprofitable that they give up and that ultimately requires stopping the fools who buy gold from them - something bigger games are still struggling with.	
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A guildy suggested this earlier.. simple solution really, anybody pvp'ing for over 24 hours non stop just have the account banned, this is not likely a human, and if it is they can submit ticket to get it recovered.
 
As their money income is from botting PVP, this should surely cripple the botters who are affecting our game and economy.
			
				
	Edited January 4, 2016 by Stalk	
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			Unless they are using some type of cloak so far I have not seen one, even yesterday I ran a dungeon and the first question by another player was how namy are bots and we all answered, even one guy was been funny and said I am a bot. LOL	
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A guildy suggested this earlier.. simple solution really, anybody pvp'ing for over 24 hours non stop just have the account banned, this is not likely a human, and if it is they can submit ticket to get it recovered.
 
As their money income is from botting PVP, this should surely cripple the botters who are affecting our game and economy.
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