Dialogue tree

(WIP)
This is an attempt to map out every argument for or against veganism, vegetarianism, flexitarianism, ethical omnivorism, and standard carnism.
Acronyms:
* Veganism = VN
* Vegetarianism = VT
* Flexitarianism = FX
* Ethical Omnivorism = EO
* Standard Carnism = SC
== Veganism (VN) ==
=== (SC, VT) Too difficult/don't care ===
==== (SC) Morality is subjective ====
Lovely quote from carnism debunked:https://www.carnismdebunked.com/general-ethical#30
"To the perpetrator, morality is subjective. To the victim, however, it never is. Morality is only ever subjective when the person saying that phrase isn't the victim.
I'm yet to see one person who uses this excuse actually abide by its principles when it comes to them. What do I mean by this? Simple: anyone who harms others and justifies it by saying "morality is subjective" should write into their country's law courts and tell them that, should anyone ever harm them (e.g. rape or murder them), the person responsible should not be punished, because hey, morality is subjective, and who would we be to force our beliefs on the person who has raped/murdered them, right?
So just like the food chain and the circle of life, the people who use these phrases always exempt themselves from the very rules of it while expecting animals to be victim to it."
=== (SC) Hypocritical ===
==== (SC) Plant argument ====
Vegans hurt plants.
===== (VA) Veganism harms less plants =====
The simplest rebuttal is to explain animal feed. "each pound of animal flesh requires between four and thirteen pounds of plant matter to produce, depending upon species and conditions." - YourVeganFallacy
===== (VA) Plants don't deserve moral consideration =====
This one is more complex. https://philosophicalvegan.com/wiki/index.php/Plant_ethics
=== (SC, EO) Unnecessary for animal welfare ===
=== (SC) Against traditions/nature ===
=== (SC) Unhealthy ===
=== (VT) Unnecessary for cows and chickens ===
=== (SC) Bad for the environment ===
==== Almonds ====
==== Soybeans ====
== Vegetarianism (VT) ==
=== (SC) Unnatural/plant abuse/etc (see criticism of Veganism) ===
=== (VN) Bad for chickens ===
==== (VT) Backyard eggs ====
=== (VN) Bad for cows ===
=== (VN) Bad for bees ===
=== (VN) Bad for the environment ===
=== (VN) Bad for health ===
== Flexitarianism (FX) ==
=== (VN) Not enough ===
== Ethical Omnivorism (EO) ==
=== (VN) Oxymoron ===
== Standard Carnism (SC) ==
=== (VN) Bad for the animals ===
90% of meat is produced from factory farms.
center|thumb|Documentary showing life in factory farms.
=== (VN) Animal personhood ===
=== (VN) Hypocritical ===
=== (VN) Bad for the environment ===
=== (VN) Enabling the spread of zoonotic diseases ===
=== (VN) Unhealthy ===
=== (VN) Enabling discrimination ===
=== (VN) Bad for workers ===
=== (VN) Inefficient ===
=== (VN) Underlying misogyny ===
== Misc. ==
=== Animal tested products ===
=== Hostile behaviour ===
=== Holocaust analogy ===
=== Semantic arguments ===
==== Plant milk vs plant drink ====
==== Vegan vs plant-based ====
==== Carnist as a slur ====
==== Animal pronouns ====
=== Cross-contamination ===
=== Second-hand leather ===
=== Abortion ===
=== Palm oil ===
=== Horses ===
== References ==