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Good morning coffee people!
I thought I would start my first one, hope you don't mind :)
Slept like a baby tonight, after some busy days of assignment work. But today it's all good, taking some hours off before work to have some coffee and run through some bgs :)
 
 
 
So yesterday Carbine made the news they are making some pets and mounts account bound for a bit more expensive cost compared to the single use version which caused lots of discussions in this forum. This is not another thread about pros and cons about that :) I thought we would discuss the ingame store in general. What do you people buy from the store? Are you the person who buys it all? Or are there any specific things you prefer to buy?
I have so far only bought the strain snarflelynx from store, I simply couldn't resist it. I could buy more mounts, but it has to be pink somehow :) I also have my eyes on costumes. So far there is no costume in the shop that I like, but I'm hoping that one day it will be. Less likely, but not impossible, would be cool housing stuff. 
 
So, have some coffee, tell us about what you buy or wish to buy (also what you wish store had even if you don't buy, so no-buyers can participate too) :)
Have a nice day :)
 
			
				
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You know oh too well, that I have spent money on the store already for costumes, dyes and mounts... I literally needed that pink pony... 
 
I've been busy doing assignment work and being tired. I love christmas but am feeling really down and lonely at this time of year. Lets hope winterfest cheers me up a bit :)	
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Hey, you're part of the Cool Kids Club now, Tea! :lol:  Of course no one minds, it's a community effort, after all!
 
As for the big news, I could not be happier with this decision. As I mentioned elsewhere, after serious soul-searching, I've decided to let my subscription lapse and move toward a cash-shop based support for the game. Honestly, I'll probably end up spending a couple dollars more over a few months and then coasting on months when there ain't nothing new or interesting to me. Meh. No big deal. I love WildStar enough that I don't mind spending the pennies and now that my Alt-O-Holism is at least partially satiated with this news, I feel confident in my choice.
 
Aaaand, since my birthday is this weekend, I am going to treat myself to an extra pocketful of NCCoin and ...
 	
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Only thing I buy from the store is service tokens, with omnibits. So I can easily re-roll slots. Right now I'm sitting on about 200 service tokens and pretty much have all my main spec gear for all three 50s where I want them to be. And even the off specs for my two alts. I haven't invested in my main yet, though I guess I probably will soon enough, since he probably has around ilvl 105 healing gear without a single rune. The thing is, these days if I'm taking Chet, he's usually more valuable as DPS, so I don't really see the point in runing out a healing set.
 
My wife has purchased some dies and costumes, as well as service tokens for slot rolling. Though she paid cash for the dyes and omnibits for the re-rolling. I think she may buy some more service tokens to re-roll her healing gear (she's not like me in refusing to pay money for service tokens).
 
I actually tried to pay for a 6 month sub to get the increased omnibit drop rate, but after probably 50 emails back and forth with customer service and them assuring me it was possible, but my bank was screwing things up, I finally gave up. They obviously didn't want my money.	
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I am stoked by this change!!!
 
I buy mounts if they fit my character, and Costumes! I've got the Lawman and Gunfighter so far and the "Finger" weapons! None of the mounts have caught my eye yet... yet being the key word. (That and I am in love with my Cutter.) On the occasion of there is a pet I can't say no to I will buy that as well, and I've bought some housing skys and grounds! My one wish is they don't get mystery box crazy and start putting all the coolest stuff in those. Just let me buy cosmetics I want Carbine, and you will have my money!! :D	
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Good morning/afternoon all, 
 
I must admit I was one of those who was not pleased at single character mounts so when I found out the change and the price of it I was more than pleased.  To me it was a step in the right direction and cements it further that Carbine do actually listen to the players, they may not get it right all the time and it might not happen as quickly as you hope but it does show they are open to taking in feedback and adjusting things appropriately if need be. 
 
I myself was on a mount purchase hiatus whilst they were single character but I did treat my Spellslinger Rico Chet to a Gunfighter costume and the weapon skins that look like they fit the costume.  I am slowly getting my alts to look the part rather than the same costume just recolored, I have also started juggling up time between alts and my main. Never realized I still had some story missions to do for my main on Defile I think it was called, and that was a smashing story mission with all sorts in it and a nice surprise which I wont spoil for those who haven't done it yet.
 
Overall im still having lots of fun and even though my main is lvl 50 I still have quite a bit to do but ive never been the type to rush things and ive never been the type who needs all the best shinies as long as what I have does the job properly then that is good enough for me.
			
				
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Morning folks!
 
I'm very choosy about what I buy particularly if it's for something temporary.  I've bought the Freelancer set (prurience aside it's actually a well done set), a couple of costume slot unlocks and the Shade's Eve Dye pack.  That last one (multi-claim black and orange dye) I couldn't throws my money at the monitor fast enough.  Heck, same thing with the Freelancer set.  The costume slot unlocks just came along for the ride but I'm already planning on buying more.
 
I will not -ever- buy anything Strain themed, at least I won't spend real money on it.  I'm also hoping against hope that the success of the Freelancer set doesn't lead CRB into the same trap that SW:TOR got into: You can dress like a stripper or you can dress like a nun.  There's nothing in between.
 
The big disgusting fly in the soup is Service Tokens.  I want to happily ignore them.  Tie a huge discount (90%) on dye use costs, rune slot rerolls, and rune extraction to Signature Service and I can shut up about them.	
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Everything PJ bought with cash, I spent my OmniBits on - only I bought the Lawman set. :lol:
 
Now I am Bit-Poor and waiting for the weekend, so I can birthday-splurge and not feel bad about it. :D	
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You know oh too well, that I have spent money on the store already for costumes, dyes and mounts... I literally needed that pink pony... 
 
I've been busy doing assignment work and being tired. I love christmas but am feeling really down and lonely at this time of year. Lets hope winterfest cheers me up a bit :)
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Hey, you're part of the Cool Kids Club now, Tea! :lol:  Of course no one minds, it's a community effort, after all!
 
As for the big news, I could not be happier with this decision. As I mentioned elsewhere, after serious soul-searching, I've decided to let my subscription lapse and move toward a cash-shop based support for the game. Honestly, I'll probably end up spending a couple dollars more over a few months and then coasting on months when there ain't nothing new or interesting to me. Meh. No big deal. I love WildStar enough that I don't mind spending the pennies and now that my Alt-O-Holism is at least partially satiated with this news, I feel confident in my choice.
 
Aaaand, since my birthday is this weekend, I am going to treat myself to an extra pocketful of NCCoin and ...
 
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I expect the bulk of my December purchases will go toward the holiday junk.
 
No hard feelings there, I love Christmas stuff.	
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My life as an Advertising Executive. This. See this crap? This is why we can't have nice things.	
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So far, I have bought a housing sky (mistake - didn't realize it wasn't account wide, and probably will be avoiding those purchases in the future unless something really strikes me for a very particular house), the wardrobe expansion to 550, and an additional costume slot with NCoin. I've spent omnibits on the Shade's Eve dye set and another costume slot. I have been boycotting mounts and pets due to there being no account-wide option; now that Carbine seems to have bent a little, I'm just waiting for a mount or pet to catch my eye.
 
That said, I may be too upset about their implementation of RNG boxes in the latest event to actually spend any money for a while. >_> I HATE those things with every fiber of my being.	
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That said, I may be too upset about their implementation of RNG boxes in the latest event to actually spend any money for a while. >_> I HATE those things with every fiber of my being.
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Not if you want the housing music.
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But then I was like, "You know what? Hell on Mystery Boxes. I can just spam-run Vet shiphands every available minute and just farm the pieces I really want."
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			I bought more bank space because I'm a hoarder. Spent all my remaining omnibits on it. I am considering pets. Especially with the new account bound option. FUN! I'm really glad that they listened to community feedback on how to make that work (by charging a bit more for the option). I likely won't use the option often, but it's really nice to have :)	
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Not if you want the housing music.
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I don't. :lol:
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I've looked and I've looked, the stupid cash shop does not even sell coffee....I WANT COFFEE
 
 
The real me ? I have been subbed to the game since day one and guess I always will be....pets are my weakness and buy one a month
			
				
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Even if I didn't, it would still bother me. I hate these things on principle.
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I don't buy stuff from the cash shop.  I have other people do that for me.  I'm not in a place where I can drop a bunch of my own money on the game but I do have a ton of plat to barter with.  If I want something from the shop I usually just look around for people willing to sell it for plat.  Anything I buy personally from the shop is with omnibits (yay subscription perks!).  Maybe I'll mention ncoin as an alternative to the gw2 gem cards someone always gets me for my approaching birthday.
 
This new account bound stuff makes me super happy.  I keep staring at that little bobberbot but I kinda wish they'd released one that isn't technophage first.  Been eagerly checking the cash shop updates ever since an uninfected ikthian one was datamined because it would go perfectly with one of my costumes.	
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I don't see a problem with the so-called gamble boxes. I personally think that the specifics of these models are working in everyone's favour for several reasons:
 
1. The music and ship unlocks seem to be static, meaning you only have to buy one of each decor case type to get three music unlocks and three unique ships
2. The ship parts can be farmed through game content— as already noted— meaning there's no imposition to spend real money on these items
3. The Cadet NPCs will likely (given precedence of other NPC decor) be BOE, meaning the folks who have no problem buying decor cases will post them on the auction and let the economy decide price (guard NPC are dirt cheap so this could well be a non-issue)
4. When building it's often useful to have a bunch of one decor type, and there are 30 ship part decor, so if you do get duplicates... what's the big deal?
 
All told, I don't really see a lot of gambling going on here. Before you start running Expeditions buy one of each case for the music/ship unlocks, ensuring you don't get any repeats, then simply find a few friends and go to town on Expeditions to scoop up the specific decor you want. Farm some plat and buy the NPCs you're looking for from the auction house. Bang. Done. :P
 
I think the decor cases are significantly less RNG-intensive than Fay's (because you can't run content to get her stuff) and so I applaud the way Carbine's handled the Space Chase event. Also consider that some people ~like~ gambling, and view it as a fun way to interact with the game; further, adding in an element of RNG can generate prestige for certain items (like the spider mount) making them rare just like certain items available only by completing difficult content. I believe that if we're going to see a lot more cosmetics on the cash shop now, it's good and fun to maintain such prestigious items, and there are only two ways to do that: make it luck, or make it really expensive. I'd prefer the former to the latter so long as the model is used rarely on specific items.
 
So as you can probably tell... I'm happy with the way the cash shop is turning out. :P   More than that, if the game's population continues to grow and Carbine can expand in the future due to higher revenue, I will be escstatic. :D
			
				
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Think you read that wrong Esper.
 
TECH SHUTTLE DÉCOR CASE
Initially on sale from December 9 through December 10, they contain one of the following random housing items:
			
				
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Happy Morning!
 
I too am glad to see the option to pay a bit more for account-bound stuff. Non-account bound stuff really chaffs.
 
Though, I will likely not be buying anything unless it's some sexy new Hoverboard, except with Omnibits. I am quite content to pay for a subscription right now, as I fully enjoy leveling and feel the EXP bonus is worth it. Spending even MORE money on NCoin feels too much like double dipping. I understand full well they would like to move people to either NCoin exclusive, or NCoin + Subscription (because hey why not?), and I'm not going to fly into a rage (everyone has already, in more eloquent words than I, stated what would make subscribing more attractive) over it. It would be nice to see subscribing having some kind of store stipend. :rolleyes:
 
I mean, geez, even my lifetime sub over at Champions affords me a tiny amount of Zen every month! To be frank, I've never had issue buying more Zen over there, because I feel the money I've already invested towards enjoying that game has been well returned.
 
The lockbox/crate/chic thing though... *shivers* horror upon horrors there. Putting exclusive stuff in those is a sinisterly good way to make money, but... pls no. :( At least, if my reading is right, it appears you can buy all the items in the chic from the store?
 
Anyways I am sadly going to miss the majority of this event as I will be in Maui. So it's okay you don't have to feel too bad for me. :lol: I hope you all get some great swag! I shall see you for Winterfest, slippers and all (Draken in Rowsdowser slippers?!).
			
				
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Think you read that wrong Esper.
 
TECH SHUTTLE DÉCOR CASE
Initially on sale from December 9 through December 10, they contain one of the following random housing items:
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Your jumbo letters might turn out to be right, but let me draw your attention to the fact that there are three different decor cases, Tech Shuttle, Racer Ship, and Gunner ship, and each of them only has one possible music/ship unlock. Note the wording on these two drops from the cases:
 
One piece from the Racer décor set
One character from the Space Cadet NPC décor set
Because these rewards are parts of sets, it makes sense that players get a random drop because it's one of X.
 
However, look at the wording on the other two case reward types:
 
A Slim Exile Fighter ship replica
Housing Music Remodel: The Legend of the Blue Horizon*
You can't exactly get a random drop when there's only one thing available to receive. :P
 
 
We'll have to wait and see exactly how this works (unless someone from Carbine can step in and clarify) but the way the information is presented is straightforward to me: The ship part decor and NPC rewards are part of sets and thus random. The music and ship unlocks are not part of sets, and thus cannot be random.
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Good morning everyone! I'm back on the grind and thus likely back in the threads
 
The thing I'd like to see in the cash shop is weapons with dye channels.... you know, so I can match my weapon to my damn costume instead of the other way around >.>	
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I don't think you're interpreting that right either, Esper. There's nothing to suggest in the text itself that the housing music is a guarantee - if it were, they would say that outright: "Buy a box and get the music, plus a chance at this other decor."
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			I don't think you're interpreting that right either, Esper. There's nothing to suggest in the text itself that the housing music is a guarantee - if it were, they would say that outright: "Buy a box and get the music, plus a chance at this other decor."	
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Oh, possibly off topic...
 
I just wanted to add my sadness/frustration with the Battleswore shoulder pads. I was so stoked when I first saw then, like, "wow new costume for my warrior!" but then I realised there were asymmetrical.
 
Again with the asymmetrical. :mellow:
 
PLS for the love of Carbine/Science/Draken everywhere, put in the option to mirror image those awesome pads! (Am I the only one who wishes this was an option? Possibly. CO/COH spoilt me I guess)
 
Okay, that's all. My heartfelt begging for the week done. :lol:	
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They all say the box only contains One item. 
 
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Oh, possibly off topic...
 
I just wanted to add my sadness/frustration with the Battleswore shoulder pads. I was so stoked when I first saw then, like, "wow new costume for my warrior!" but then I realised there were asymmetrical.
 
Again with the asymmetrical. :mellow:
 
PLS for the love of Carbine/Science/Draken everywhere, put in the option to mirror image those awesome pads! (Am I the only one who wishes this was an option? Possibly. CO/COH spoilt me I guess)
 
Okay, that's all. My heartfelt begging for the week done. :lol:
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Morning!  Well mostly.
 
I've been buying $10 in NCoin each month since the switch.  I've used them to buy the Witch Doctor costume, housing limit expansions, the Speed Freak bundle (it was on sale for little more than the license, and I wanted the license) and a couple of fortune coins to hit the 2x Omnibit perk.  Now that I've got that perk I might be done spending money on Wildstar, unless they make unlocking new race/class combinations available for purchase.  I've made all the big purchases I wanted from launch, and I can probably collect Omnibits faster than they can add  new things I want to buy.
 
I could see spending on specific items.  For instance, if the curved spaceship wing from the Space Chase event works for making curved corridor walls on my ship and I haven't got enough of them to finish the project when the event is about to end, I might buy the rest.  It'd depend on the cost.
 
I don't care to spend money on gamble boxes.  Paying for things sight unseen on the prospect of getting something worth more than I paid for it isn't a game I wish to play.  The house makes the odds, so the house always wins.
 
Re: shoulder armor: I just want some that can be completely recolored.  It's as if they just gave up on adding dye channels to equipment before they got around to doing pauldrons.
			
				
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That said, I may be too upset about their implementation of RNG boxes in the latest event to actually spend any money for a while. >_> I HATE those things with every fiber of my being.
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I don't care to spend money on gamble boxes.  Paying for things sight unseen on the prospect of getting something worth more than I paid for it isn't a game I wish to play.  The house makes the odds, so the house always wins.
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If its in the store then I think it is a disgraceful way to make money by hiding store items in an RNG box knowing full well its encouraging a gambling mentality.  I never will be a fan of selling RNG boxes in store as this type of thing is rife in asian mmo's and seem's to be the new craze in western ones for trying to fleece people out of money.
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But don't we ~want~ the house to win? xD  I mean, even if you only spend $10 a month, it's not going to lead anywhere good if the game shuts down from lack of player investment. :(
 
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I don't think the onus is on me to support the game; I think the onus is on the game's developers to produce things I'll want to buy and offer them to us at prices I don't mind paying.  I do hope they can keep this thing going, but it's a business, not a charity.
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So now I'm not even a little concerned. I figure we have a good chance of seeing what we saw with Madame Fay (auction house was flooded with her items except the super-rare Spider Mount, prices dropped rapidly).
 
I'll likely buy a bunch of cases myself then use plat to auction hunt the stuff I didn't get from luck.
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This doesn't make it better in my eyes. RNG boxes are a scourge, period.
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			Sounds like I have a line I'm not willing to cross. Every single game I've played that went f2p started with just a little bit of RNG, and soon enough... almost everything is locked behind gamble boxes.	
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Sounds like I have a line I'm not willing to cross. Every single game I've played that went f2p started with just a little bit of RNG, and soon enough... almost everything is locked behind gamble boxes.
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It's on the store as one of the offerings of this event (the other being the ability to farm ship parts in-game), but as I just mentioned in my last post, players can freely exchange or auction the stuff from these cases. I'm not sure I'd qualify that as fleecing. :o
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My life as an Advertising Executive. This. See this crap? This is why we can't have nice things.
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It is fleecing people as it is getting people to pay money for something they might get. Wither it can be sold or not doesn't matter because someone still has to buy the boxes in order for the item to be sold and what are the chances of people buying a box and getting exactly what they want out of it?
 
You also find that because of RNG when the item is getting sold on AH it is going to be for alot higher than it would normally be because it's within one of these RNG boxes, as they know in order for people to obtain it otherwise they would need to pray to RNGesus to get the item.  But if your quite happy to pay over the odds or gamble then fair play to you, I would rather we do not go down this slippery road as before you know it costumes and mounts are going to be flung into these things.  
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Do those games let players trade/auction the rewards of those gamble boxes?
 
(genuine question because this is pretty much the basis of my argument that these boxes aren't so bad... in a situation where cosmetics are locked exclusively behind RNG, I would also be criticizing, but that's not the case in Wildstar right now)
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Some people like to gamble. It's ok for them to have fun too.
 
If the items are tradable, I don't see a problem.
 
 
(I hate gambling mechanics, like rerolling slots).	
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Some people like to gamble. It's ok for them to have fun too.
 
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Some people like to gamble. It's ok for them to have fun too.
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Not when it invariably ends up taking over the cash shop over other forms of sales. And I maintain that feeding on gambling impulses is predatory.
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Also, the world is now consumerism. Consumerism is predatory. You're part of it if you buy food or clothes or just about anything else. Why is this news and why would a struggling game dev company be held to some higher standard when they haven't even done anything provably wrong? You're only assuming that this is 'predatory', a 'scourge', or in the case of that past poster, 'fleecing'.
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			I have spent far too much money to get service tokens to rerune >_<. Seeing as all my in-game money goes to housing I never have enough, and what with my guild finally breaking into the meat of datascape its costing me a small fortune to rerune my new gear :x. I'm just happy I have a real job now...	
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If you're going to ignore and dismiss everything I say, then I'm not particularly interested in discussing it with you any further.
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I bought a load of the fortune coins on impulse and really enjoyed opening them all then sharing the loot out between me and my friends in guild.
 
I had some paypal money still in my account and just thought it was appropriate. I'd hate for them to take away the fortune coins, and I hope they add more rewards to it.
 
I had two spider-riders from two coins two in a row! I'm still deciding whether to sell the one of them...
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I bought a load of the fortune coins on impulse and really enjoyed opening them all then sharing the loot out between me and my friends in guild.
 
I had some paypal money still in my account and just thought it was appropriate. I'd hate for them to take away the fortune coins, and I hope they add more rewards to it.
 
I had two spider-riders from two coins two in a row! I'm still deciding whether to sell the one of them...	
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			Do not talk down to me. I am allowed to base my own assessments on prior experiences. History repeats itself, especially when it comes to marketing. I am also allowed to take a moral stance against particular marketing tactics that I find distasteful. I do NOT have to deal with your condescension, however.	
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Alright new day let's have a new thread. :D
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Alright new day let's have a new thread. :D
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Do it!! =)
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Do not talk down to me. I am allowed to base my own assessments on prior experiences. History repeats itself, especially when it comes to marketing. I am also allowed to take a moral stance against particular marketing tactics that I find distasteful. I do NOT have to deal with your condescension, however.
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I bought the haunted house fabkit for that theoritical "eventually" that never seems to come where I start actually doing something with plots. I also bought the mount speed upgrade and tons of fortune coins.
 
Everything else has been omnibit purchases which is probably the way it will stay unless there are some really slick account bound mounts that fit my interests. It'll be tough to pull me off of my plasmatic though.	
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