102637-item-eating-bugs-costing-us-real-money-has-got-to-be-fixed

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Preface; love the game, best mmo I've played in ages... please fix ALL the bugs that cost us gold. I;ve lost 15 plat to top tier crafted blues turning white, items from vendors disappearing once purchased, and recipes in my research disappearing after learning them (ergo had to re learn them costing me tons of vouchers and a fragment... so that's more of a time loss but still). 20 plat is three + CREDD on my server, so I basically lost 45$ real money so far. This should be an immediate concern and all the tickets I've sent were replied with "we know, its a known issue, we are doing nothing for you." how can you not reimburse people? This alone is quite terrible. 
 
Please Carbine, you are losing steam fast because of issue like this.	
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			No.. you didn't pay $45 for them, so you didn't lose real money for it.	
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			Ok. Moving on, this is bad. fix plz. ty.	
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I still do not understand how you math this to get the real money result.
 
does that mean if and when CREDD is selling for more in game you will still complain for $1?
 
sadly, they do not see the correlation that you and some other do
 
20 plat is 3 CREDD, so what?
 
I AM sorry you lost in game cash as they should do something about that. but unless you called in sick to work to make the 15 plat you lost, I dont see the connection.	
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No.. you didn't pay $45 for them, so you didn't lose real money for it.
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No.. you didn't pay $45 for them, so you didn't lose real money for it.
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This.
Losing platinum sucks hard (lost a lot to a disappearing items bug myself just yesterday), but you spent yours on ingame stuff. Hence, it was never going to turn into "real money" (i.e. CREDD) in the first place.
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20 plat could have purchased me 3 credd which would have saved me 15USD$ x3 + tax (I'm in Canada). People are arguing semantics just so they can feel right and that they've proven somebody wrong. How very obtuse and pointless. 
 
Either way, gear eating bugs in a game where you have the possibility to turn in game gold into something that saves you real cash is fairly significant, IMO it's enough for it to be called to attention and asked by the player base for immediate repair. 	
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and even turned into CREDD, never translates into cash in hand. like I mean you cant take it anywhere and have them give you $19.99 per.
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the game is eating my gear
 
gear that cost me plat to replace if I want to continue playing
 
plat I could spend on credd
 
Credd I could use to save me money.
 
 
The logic is simple, stop being argumentative just for arguments sake. 	
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the game is eating my gear
 
gear that cost me plat to replace if I want to continue playing
 
plat I could spend on credd
 
Credd I could use to save me money.
 
 
The logic is simple, stop being argumentative just for arguments sake. 
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the game is eating my gear
 
gear that cost me plat to replace if I want to continue playing
 
plat I could spend on credd
 
Credd I could use to save me money.
 
 
The logic is simple, stop being argumentative just for arguments sake. 
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True, but at least you would factually have the $ for one month of Wildstar to spend on something else. I can understand if someone equates that to "real money" in their mind. But if you didn't even actually buy the CREDD with it? Nah. I won't accept it.
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			My Warrior's IA shield has turned white (with no stats) back to rare (with stats).... several times.  Seems like every time I log in, its Russian Roulette to see if my items actually work/exist.  At least the actual shield amount and IA never disappeared.	
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It's how you word things.
 
I could say OMG I farmed for three weeks at 50 and still don't have trigger fingers. If this were a job at $12/hr I would have made $1440. Trigger fingers Cost me $1440+ since I still don't have it!
 
Doesn't make much sense.
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This is really *cupcake*ing stupid. 
 
No, it's not like losing real money and it's not how I would have personally worded it, but it could have saved him real money.
 
The pathetic thing is, I'm sure most of you KNEW what he meant and he's right about one thing, you're arguing for the sake of arguing. If you didn't know what he meant well, there's no helping some people. Mob mentality is so childish.
 
The point is he is making, these are game breaking bugs, and they are! I've lost countless amounts of items/plat that I know about, probably much more than I don't. Now it's just part of the game to me but it should be fixed REGARDLESS. To even argue this point just because of the way he worded things is stupid at best. 
 
Do you really have to argue for the sake of arguing rather than ignoring the main point that _this needs to be fixed_ ?	
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Not even remotely the same thing, I had plat I was about to spend on credd right before my sub cost was about to show up. You never had something that you lost due to a bug in this terribly inappropriate example. 
 
Again, arguing just to feel like a winner. But I appreciate the bump.
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This is really *cupcake*ing stupid. 
 
No, it's not like losing real money and it's not how I would have personally worded it, but it could have saved him real money.
 
The pathetic thing is, I'm sure most of you KNEW what he meant and he's right about one thing, you're arguing for the sake of arguing. If you didn't know what he meant well, there's no helping some people. Mob mentality is so childish.
 
The point is he is making, these are game breaking bugs, and they are! I've lost countless amounts of items/plat that I know about, probably much more than I don't. Now it's just part of the game to me but it should be fixed REGARDLESS. To even argue this point just because of the way he worded things is stupid at best. 
 
Do you really have to argue for the sake of arguing rather than ignoring the main point that _this needs to be fixed_ ?
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exactly the same thing. if you had money to spend on CREDD you were either hoping that it would go down (which based on any economic idea is wrong) or never intended to in the first place.
 
 
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You will lose customers quickly if they take hours to make gold, get gear and then have it lost.
 
People don't enjoy putting in a lot of effort for no reward, even in games, I'm not sure why this is a hard concept. It's also why most MMO's customer support are quick to restore lost currency, items due to bugs, as to retain customers. (By Most, that's a bit anecdotal. But WoW, Guild Wars and Rift have all been supremely more helpful than Wildstar Support.) 
 
Wildstar's poor customer service and ability to serve people after they've been hit with these bugs are going to start costing the company players. 	
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and the forums will not fix it. no one here has the skill, pull or ability to fix it.
 
its that simple.
 
it is not arguing for the sake of arguing, its attempting to correct an obviously incorrect thought process. its no different than any of those declaring that the strain mount was going to cost them x hundreds of dollars to get.
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This is really *cupcake*ing stupid. 
 
No, it's not like losing real money and it's not how I would have personally worded it, but it could have saved him real money.
 
The pathetic thing is, I'm sure most of you KNEW what he meant and he's right about one thing, you're arguing for the sake of arguing. If you didn't know what he meant well, there's no helping some people. Mob mentality is so childish.
 
The point is he is making, these are game breaking bugs, and they are! I've lost countless amounts of items/plat that I know about, probably much more than I don't. Now it's just part of the game to me but it should be fixed REGARDLESS. To even argue this point just because of the way he worded things is stupid at best. 
 
Do you really have to argue for the sake of arguing rather than ignoring the main point that _this needs to be fixed_ ?
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Do you really have to argue for the sake of arguing rather than ignoring the main point that _this needs to be fixed_ ?
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See my other post. Nobody is arguing that it shouldn't be fixed, but what do you want us to say? Rah, rah, fix it right meow? They've addressed some of the bugs in other patches (And supposedly mailed back the items, as I didn't have any items that poofed entirely it hasn't been an issue for me) and are presumably trying to nail down what makes items lose all of their stats entirely when purchased from the auction house.
 
Since there really wasn't much else to say, I decided to try to convince him of the erroneous train of thought that platinum = money which will only lead to frustration down the line for him. (And it already has, as evidenced by this post)
 
No, platinum = CREDD = money saved, which is dramatically different from platinum = money in pocket. If I forget to use a coupon, I don't go "Shit, I wasted $5!"
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Where did I say money in pocket as apposed to money saved? Again, pointless arguing. I /ticketed every single item loss, all were met with "we know, we wont do anything" responses. So bringing this to other attention is a last ditch effort to hopefully speed up the process of repair. The logic is not faulty, the arguing is.
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Nope, that doesn't say what you think it says. Saying I basically, fundamentally lost money, doesn't mean I am saying money that I have in my pocket was taken out by the game. In your own words....
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 platinum = CREDD = money saved
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and the forums will not fix it. no one here has the skill, pull or ability to fix it.
 
its that simple.
 
it is not arguing for the sake of arguing, its attempting to correct an obviously incorrect thought process. its no different than any of those declaring that the strain mount was going to cost them x hundreds of dollars to get.
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It is arguing for the sake of arguing and it's mob mentality at it's finest.
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Nope, that doesn't say what you think it says. Saying I basically, fundamentally lost money, doesn't mean I am saying money that I have in my pocket was taken out by the game. In your own words....
Really? Unnecessary.... So, you don't think this bug is important enough for a player to mention on the forums after /tickets have failed?
 
The only thing I "trust" is that you will argue pointless semantics even though agreeing with the overarching ideal of this thread until you get the last word.... regardless of the point I was trying to make. Thank you for the bumps. I will no longer be responding to you.
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Now you're just blowing things out of proportion.
It's not a mob, it's a few people bored on the internet and arguing a moot point because the OP doesn't provide anything of substance.
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No, the forums won't fix it inherently, but then, nor will not posting it. These are forums, he's venting. He isn't trolling, he isn't rude or is he derogatory. This isn't a special place only elites can post and developers do read these forums, often even reply to issues like this. Forums are exactly that, a place to voice opinions, concerns, criticism and idea's etc. 
 
It is arguing for the sake of arguing and it's mob mentality at it's finest. I don't agree that it costs real money but I seem to be the only one who comprehends what he meant, and you all just jumped on him. Take a step back. I read it from a neutral point of view and yes, the platinum going missing, items going missing, items changing colour is a major issue, and they do need to be addressed, sooner rather than later since it's been a long time. Hell, even the first day on headstart there were issues with stuff going missing from bags when they were changed (and usually appeared back, which isn't the point). 
 
All you've done is ignored the real point and derailed the thread for the sake of it, rather than actually give support on something that should be fixed. 
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might want to start looking real hard into that mirror of yours.
 
if you read my entire first post instead of being so quick to argue, you might actually not that I did state clearly that I was sorry they lost items.
but hey, play how you like. I am done here so I do not derail further by pointing out an error in perception.
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might want to start looking real hard into that mirror of yours.
 
if you read my entire first post instead of being so quick to argue, you might actually not that I did state clearly that I was sorry they lost items.
but hey, play how you like. I am done here so I do not derail further by pointing out an error in perception.
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