148997-what-do-you-do-when-not-raiding

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It's something I find myself asking now.
 
I would like to say:
 
Run gold dungeons with guildies!"
 
But i think a lot of us are getting a bit burnt out and logging on 30 min before raid and logging off 30 min after raid.
 
I only have solid gold twice over, but i need it six times over for the most important of all reasons - REASONS!!!
 
So realistically its:
 
Crafting items and relisting items for profits (doing custom orders as well)
Spamming recruitment messages in Thayd, occasionally recruiting a lowbie or fresh 50, but not getting that player we need for the datascape team
Spamming housing looking for people to build my other plots, and failing epically
Talking to my friends about nothing, writing on forums, watching netflix/HBO
AFKing to make food
AFKing to take a shower
Qing for a random dungeon and praying my teammates aren't completely incompetent
Spending service tokens designing costume #10 for alt #4 (or something)
Annoying baelix with random nonsense in zone chat.
 
but mostly wondering
 
Why did i log in when it wasn't raid time? :(
 
Any suggestions? :O!	
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			Run around Spaceport Alpha spamming double jump.	
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Housing was always fun.
 
I liked discovery hunting, doing expeditions (tho i got burned out after a while) and being annoying in /zone in illium :P
 
that was pretty much my agenda between pvp matches anyways.	
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What do i do when im not raiding?
 
I'm not online :)	
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What I'm doing when not raiding?
 
Preparing the next raid
Interviewing applicants for our guild
Roleplaying over Tumblr with my OC.
Working
Making my Let's Play FF7 Remake on the PS4 video's
Playing older console games
Repairing console games
doing dailies
helping with dungeon runs/adventure runs/shiphands	
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Why did i log in when it wasn't raid time? :(
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			I just log in for events nowadays	
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Preparing the next raid  - Boring : O
Interviewing applicants for our guild  - Sporadic :/
Roleplaying over Tumblr with my OC. - Cringy :S
Working - Fair enough U_U
Making my Let's Play FF7 Remake on the PS4 video's - Booh, self-promoting bait =.=
Playing older console games - <Hipster Intensifies> @_@
Repairing console games - u sho speshial <.<
doing dailies - What? BORING is evolving! *tun dan tun dan tun daaan tuuun* Congratulations! BORING evolved into COMA! X_X
helping with dungeon runs/adventure runs/shiphands - ...and I want peace in the world - Acceptance Speech. WildStar Beauties 2016. *.*
 
(Needless to say, I'm joking XD)
			
				
	Edited January 15, 2016 by DorianTail	
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			When i'm not raiding i'm ogranizing some pugs for the raid Keepo	
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Preparing the next raid  - Boring : O
Interviewing applicants for our guild  - Sporadic :/
Roleplaying over Tumblr with my OC. - Cringy :S
Working - Fair enough U_U
Making my Let's Play FF7 Remake on the PS4 video's - Booh self-promoting bait =.=
Playing older console games - <Hipster Intensifies> @_@
Repairing console games - u sho speshial <.<
doing dailies - What? BORING is evolving! *tun dan tun dan tun daaan tuuun* Congratulations! BORING evolved into COMA! X_X
helping with dungeon runs/adventure runs/shiphands - ...and I want peace in the world - Acceptance Speech. WildStar Beauties 2016. *.*
 
(Needles to say, I'm joking XD)
 
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Sorry, but I don't want peace in the world.
Upsets my market shares and costs me money.
 
Secondly, stop being so jelly :P
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Tsk, you monster è_é
 
(I don't get the jelly joke XD)
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http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/u-jelly
 
Youngsters these days.....
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What do i do when im not raiding?
 
I'm not online :)
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What do i do when im not raiding?
 
I'm not online :)
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			I complain on the forums.	
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Heh. I don't raid, but I haven't logged in for going on two weeks.
 
I am in the same boat as the raiders, it seems.
 
Now, while I'm in this boat, I will drill a hole in the bottom and drown everyone!
 
GAME SAVED!  :lol: ;)	
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Working on my alts and RP. 
 
My overall alt goal is to have one of each class with full AMPs, Abilities and LAS slots and their X-89 kill.  Almost done with my last two.  My warrior needs to finish GA attunement (I'm very slow).  I have two DS attuned characters but still looking for an Ohmna kill on my Esper (hoping this weekend).  Once I'm done with these guys I may start working on my Dom toons.  I have one of each class but only one of them is @ 50.  Most of my alts are parked at 15 or 16.	
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When I'm not doing our guild's scheduled raids, my play looks like this
-Is my wife playing? If so, run vet dungeons with her, help her gear up her stalker, or level a pair of espers we started together. Or if we have time to burn, pug GA.
-Do I have a few hours to burn? If so, help any friends in DS that need any extra or look for pug GA (I realize this is still raiding, but it's a completely different activity for me then my normal raiding)
-Is someone running vet dungeons? If so, join up. DPS if it's a not guild group. Any role if it's a guild group (or people I know). Sometimes if I'm feeling crazy I might queue tank.
-Does anyone in <Tears for Gear> need help? If so, help them.
-Do I have any contracts not done (other than those I hate and won't do) on any of my level 50s? Do them.
-Are my omnibits capped? If not, level my stalker.
 
At this point, if my omnibits are capped for the week, it depends on if I feel like leveling my stalker or not to whether I keep playing the game.
 
But honestly, having three level 50s generally keeps me pretty busy on most days doing contracts. I do contracts mostly because it's varied content to do, makes a little plat, and keeps me grinding those omnibits. Once I hit the increased omnibit rate, I imagine I'll play a little less.
			
				
	Edited January 15, 2016 by SlyJeff	
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The truth is, when you are raiding, the only truly interesting content is raiding, and that generally takes a few hours investment. Funny, that's the complaint the non-raiders have!
 
I really do wish there was a way to keep more content relevant for each individual at any given time, but I don't see how they could change this without completely changing things.	
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Yeah feeling less incentive to login nowdays as this current event is a "get your wallet out or don't bother" kind of event, at least with the world bosses event you got gold and items from the boss kills at least. You don't get sht worth your time doing adventures, this event does give me the chance to get some decor I don't care about at all though!
 
And now that my guild has moved on due to an extreme lack of content and absolutely no hope for the future, it looks like I wont be doing a lot of raiding now either...
 
Actually to be honest of late I've spend more time desperately checking the forums and reddit for any scraps of hopeful information on the games future than actually playing it.
			
				
	Edited January 15, 2016 by H3rboss	
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It varies. A lot of my evenings are spent roleplaying. I teach, so I often have the late afternoons to do stuff, too. This may include dailies, or participating in whatever event (such as running adventures now for the sim chase), or PvP (gonna be an even bigger priority now, what with accessing those shiny costumes just being a matter of grinding wins :3). Occasionally I get to run vet dungeons when there's interest. And there's always the option of working on my many housing plots. If nothing's looking particularly appealing, husband and I hop into GW2 or somesuch for a little bit until the evening.
 
[edit] Oh, I forgot leveling alts. Though that's been a struggle with WS's very restricted leveling paths. I haven't leveled an alt recently, though, so perhaps I'll work on one of them soon. ^^ Need to get my slinger to 50 so she can use the exanite decor on her house...
			
				
	Edited January 15, 2016 by Naunet	
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I dont raid because im not in a guild and even if I was or could be part of a raid I am nowhere near gear'd up to attempt it. It is pretty much the same reason why I don't do vet dungeons either, so im left with working on my alts and trying to get the appropriate gear so that I will be able take part in the later stuff. 
 
I do feel sorry for those who have been around a while because I can see how repetitive it would get if you have been doing the same thing over and over and over for a long period of time. I do hope they throw some sort of bone to those who have stuck it out by providing some information on what is happening but the one thing I have learned since joining this game is information is little to non existent and I can see why the game was on life support before f2p hit.  
 
My hope is that it isn't too little too late and they haven't shot themselves in the foot with all the cloak and dagger stuff. I can't believe for a minute that there isnt some sort of road map and most games I know have some form of end of year newsletter or start of year newsletter on what to expect in the coming year/months ahead.
			
				
	Edited January 15, 2016 by Scarran	
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This is an ongoing problem, especially for guilds that have been around a while. Honestly, for the last couple of months we've been playing other games together (and apart) when not raiding. It keeps us social and getting to hang out, but doesn't feel as forced as trying to get gold dungeons for the umpteenth time.
 
Things that I think would encourage folks to log in more:
If you could actually get pure and divine rune set makers from ANY content other than raids. Contracts were a huge thing when they mattered, but now they just feel pointless. We almost all quit doing them. Dungeons give us glory, but so does raiding. And we can do all the dungeons while mostly naked and asleep. #yawns
 
Gearing has gone from being really exciting to rather frustrating. OMG! SHINY NEW GEAR!...that I can't rune because I have no set runes to use or money to buy them. xD (We actually have guild bank funds set aside to help folks with this, but it's still just ridiculous). I like the idea of the rune system, but if just feels unrewarding for the stat allocation to be all about the runes. The gear piece itself is practically worthless until you can rune it (unless you are jumping massive ilvls). I would much prefer they just give us shiny gear with shiny stats, and runes can maybe add specials and such. But not BE the gear.
 
The events are great, but I haven't really felt much like doing the ones that are just run this content for boxes that drop shiny cosmetic/fun stuff. Like..I've run that content to death. I can't get motivated to do it....even for a new costume. xD
 
As others have said, for a lot of folks that really enjoy raids and dungeons, it just doesn't feel like there's much to do outside of that. I am praying we get awesome news soon. The lack of information is causing an awful lot of unrest among my friends that play (and even myself).	
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Well... if I'm not online, chances are I'm probably playing something else (still slowly completing FO4). The other games I play are a little more casual and allow me to pause and afk... in case my wife yells for me.
 
The reason is I have a 4 month old, and raiding is kind of a privilege right now. I do have the raid times blocked off, but when I'm not raiding I have a honey-do list. And on nights we don't raid, that list is a bit longer. Yeah, I could come home and knock out the list ASAP, but I only have like 2, maybe 3 hours a night during the week to spend time with my son before he gets put to bed. So I'd rather spend time with him and then work on the list when my wife starts the evening rituals to put him to bed. Now I say that... some nights that doesn't happen and I generate a ton of Wife Aggro. I'm not properly runed for that encounter...
 
I have alts, but I don't really have a  desire to play them at the moment, so I would consider myself a raid logger. Not proud of it, but I have more important things going on in my life outside of raid days :P. 
 
Raiding is really the only thing that interests me in WildStar (right now).
			
				
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Cherish that time, @h4vix. And squeeze the heck out of his cheeks. Somehow, 14 year olds don't appreciate cheek squeezes and tickles nearly as much as 4 month olds! LOL
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			Cherish that time, @h4vix. And squeeze the heck out of his cheeks. Somehow, 14 year olds don't appreciate cheek squeezes and tickles nearly as much as 4 month olds! LOL	
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			I will say I'm glad I'm a roleplayer! RP takes up so much of my time, that I actually feel like I don't have enough time to do all the other things I want to do. XD	
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Things I do concerning Wildstar:
 
- build
- generate build ideas
- search/collect decor for builds
- level characters for builds
- create threads about my builds
- visit other builders
- talk to other builders about build-related things
- think or plan community stuff for builders
- socialize in various channels
- visit RP events (mostly as an observer)
- play the auction house
- farm stuff if there's an event going on
- read Wildstar-related news
- visit the Exiles
- criticize the game on the forums
- defend the game on the forums
- make an ass of myself... on the forums
- general tomfoolery
- wonder how it came to be that after almost ten years as a diehard MMO gameplay fanatic (in PVE and PVP, competitive and non-competitive) I'm now a super non-gameplay type nerd who barely touches instanced content and never glances at dailies >_>	
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			I dont raid, so what do I do?	
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I dont raid, so what do I do?
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You tell us!
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			Haha ouch! Well people will still likely do world bosses for contract kills, so keep an eye out!	
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			Waiting on bug fixes and new content. Also, housing. 	
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I've always enjoyed Dailies, I know it sounds crazy but I really do. Aside from that, I enjoy Rare mob hunting, building in short bursts with lots of time in between, and being crazy on the forums. I also enjoy simply socializing in the game. Like I won't do anything to progress my character and just chat in global or with guildies. I also really enjoy helping other players with open world quests, though sometimes I get tired of all the group quests from Grimvault to the Defile. But I still try to be helpful because I don't think I had a full party when getting through any of those quests. At one point, it was me and another player and I sorta learned to tank because no one else was willing to help us.
 
The way these temporary events have been handled has not made me want to log in lately when I have the time to do so though. I'll probably jump back in sometime today though.	
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What do i do when im not raiding?
 
I'm not online :)
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This is an ongoing problem, especially for guilds that have been around a while. Honestly, for the last couple of months we've been playing other games together (and apart) when not raiding. It keeps us social and getting to hang out, but doesn't feel as forced as trying to get gold dungeons for the umpteenth time.
 
Things that I think would encourage folks to log in more:
If you could actually get pure and divine rune set makers from ANY content other than raids. Contracts were a huge thing when they mattered, but now they just feel pointless. We almost all quit doing them. Dungeons give us glory, but so does raiding. And we can do all the dungeons while mostly naked and asleep. #yawns
 
Gearing has gone from being really exciting to rather frustrating. OMG! SHINY NEW GEAR!...that I can't rune because I have no set runes to use or money to buy them. xD (We actually have guild bank funds set aside to help folks with this, but it's still just ridiculous). I like the idea of the rune system, but if just feels unrewarding for the stat allocation to be all about the runes. The gear piece itself is practically worthless until you can rune it (unless you are jumping massive ilvls). I would much prefer they just give us shiny gear with shiny stats, and runes can maybe add specials and such. But not BE the gear.
 
The events are great, but I haven't really felt much like doing the ones that are just run this content for boxes that drop shiny cosmetic/fun stuff. Like..I've run that content to death. I can't get motivated to do it....even for a new costume. xD
 
As others have said, for a lot of folks that really enjoy raids and dungeons, it just doesn't feel like there's much to do outside of that. I am praying we get awesome news soon. The lack of information is causing an awful lot of unrest among my friends that play (and even myself).
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Ok, blade and soul has since come out.  I did head start, bought some character slots and a month of premium (no regrets here).
 
Ultimately, basically no one in our guild wants to log in durning non raid times.
 
Yea, there are things to do but they have all been done so many times.  You either have a group of all vets, which massively outgear/outskill everything and render the content relatively trivial
 
OR you draw some noobs in your group that are so new they literally can't do much of anything.
 
So why run dungeons?  You can have a bad experince (too easy with too small rewards) or a bad experience (new players are terribad and make the run very very un-fun)
 
Ultimately, because of the skill and gear gap, wildstar has no casuals at all.  You either join some guild and get elevated to raiding quicly OR you just quit game.
 
That's if you are there to play - wildstar has absolutely amazing housing.  Like, truly truly amazing stuff going on in housing.  These players ARE NOT CASUALS.  I have seen mansions and castles and forests and cities and island paradises and workplots and technophage research labs, etc... these housing people are just as hardcore as the raiders and deserve all the credit (plus they are generating income for the game).  So please, don't degrade them by calling them casuals.
 
Literally, right now for me (and most of my guildmates) ALL the content except datascape is really un-fun.  No one wants to do it.  Even if you do it, the rewards are minor so why bother?
 
Ultimately, to someone who has loved this game so much, I log in for raiding and to make plat for runes for raiding.  No other point :S
 
Personally - I think it's beyond saving.
 
Playing blade in soul, like... better optimization, better graphics, more fun combat, better pvp, amazing costumes, and with costume farming, there is a ton of content to do (so it seems).  Granted it's launch and I will feel differently in 18 months, but still.  Like, if not for the raids, why do I wildstar?	
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Ultimately, because of the skill and gear gap, wildstar has no casuals at all.  You either join some guild and get elevated to raiding quicly OR you just quit game.
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Excuse me?
 
 
 
How is being a casual a degradation? Your definition of casual is perplexing.
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			When I don't raid, I watch anime or play better games.	
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			I don't play enough to the point of having everything done on all my toons, so I still have stuff to do when I log on. Problem solved. Wait...	
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How is being a casual a degradation? Your definition of casual is perplexing.
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Casual implies you don't work hard at it, or invest a lot of time in it.
 
Calling someone casual who has spent tons of hours working hard on the game would be degrading- I think that was his point.
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This is why I think it's silly when people act like you aren't a real gamer if you spend a lot of time in mobiles games or The Sims.
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Raid in WoW (farm, ugh)
Play other games (on a shovel knight binge the last few weeks)
School work
 
I used to log on a lot and run vet dungeons or bg with guildies, but everyone has sorta disappeared on off-nights, and I really got burnt out on running dungeons (I only need them for glory to play RNG bag and... I just can't do it anymore)	
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When I'm not raiding?
 
Well, considering I am never raiding because a raiding guild on exiles side pvp server does not exist, I usually log in, run in circles for a few minutes.
 
I then que for dungeons, run around in Thayd. Change my characters eyes/hair/colors. Buy the changes, become indecisive, change it all back and purchase again.
I then look at how long I have been queued, scoff and become impatient. I look at the empty friends list and guild roster, post in zone "is anyone there" and wait for a reply. I don't get one. I then go to my home and post the same in the zone chat there. No response there either. 
 
I then look at how long I have been queued. If it is over 45 minutes, I unque and log off.
 
 
That is about how my days go when I am not (never) raiding. Maybe when Carbine finally moves the remaining players to Entity, I will be able to start doing datascape again.	
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I don't raid these days, haven't raided since mid-cata in wow. 
Lack of time and dedication.
Battlegrounds suits me and my game time perfectly, since I have little game time to spend just being able to take a break from irl and login and kill some other players is great :)
Now, we just need more people to play bgs in the mornings, queues too long atm. Since BnS only have arena I hope people get bored soon enough and return :P	
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Excuse me?
 
 
 
How is being a casual a degradation? Your definition of casual is perplexing.
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watching dev videos of chronicles of elyria
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Exploring
 
Talking....to myself.
 
Helping other lower level players.
 
Killing as many razortails as possible	
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Not a chance on that one, for me. The "pay for a new character when your life ends" mechanic is a complete turn off. Knowing every death in the game is shorting my lifespan and costing me money is about as unfun as anything I can think of.
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I personally like the idea as it makes me consider whether this challenge i am about to take on is worth it ... 
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Exactly. Which is what I *don't* like. When a decision about whether a challenge in a video game has a chance to impact REAL WORLD MONEY- that just kills any enjoyment I'd get out of the game (and it does look like they have some cool ideas). I don't care if it's a minor cost.
 
Sub model is a fixed cost I don't think about. "Do I really want to try this dungeon and end up having to pay money to roll a new toon quicker if it doesn't go well?" No, no, no- big no. I will never, EVER play a game that even hints at such a mechanic.
 
They suggest that this hearkens back to the coin-op days. Well, I didn't like those either. There was a reason I liked having a game system at home where I could play as much as I wanted once I shelled out the known cost for the system and cartridge.
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You have to admit going to those b-day parties at the arcades were a blast.  god i am old LOL.
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I HAD ONE OF THOSE!!
 
Yeah, they were fun. Course, to my point, it was all you could play within the time limit :D
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Casual implies you don't work hard at it, or invest a lot of time in it.
 
Calling someone casual who has spent tons of hours working hard on the game would be degrading- I think that was his point.
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			arenas if they pop.	
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			When I dont raid, I listen to what my wife is saying, sometimes amazes me how smart she is.	
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