115246-about-megaservers-and-pvp-vs-pve-population

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So, with megaservers looming over the horizon and the inability to transfer from PvP to PvE after they arrive, I've begun to wonder about the amount of people on the most populated PvP servers vs PvE servers. 
 
I'd assume that given the nature of this game, with different factions and appealing to the hardcore crowd, PvP would be the most populated kind of server. However this morning at R-12 (8 a.m., a difficult time to find players on a saturday morning) I asked to see if anyone wanted to join on PergoLFM, and got 2 replies after 5 minutes. I loged off and connected with my Stormtalon char, and asked in the Malgrave zone chat the same question, and got invited to a group of 20 after less than a minute.
 
During these past weeks I've been also doing some observations, checking the amount of people on Thayd on both servers, and Stormtalon has always had more people at the AH or CX (lvl 50, not new chars), not to mention a cheaper CREDD.
 
Sure, this isn't hard proof that PvE servers have bigger population than PvP ones (everyone at Pergo could be doing raids or PvP matches and everyone in Stormtalon could be AFK...), but without hard numbers from Carbine, this is the only thing I have to work with.
 
What have you guys seen regarding the distribution of players among PvP vs PvE servers? What do you think are the contributing factors to this? Do you think Megaservers will affect this distribution (in the sense that perhaps most PvP guilds are in their old servers unwilling to transfer to the most populated ones, and perhaps most PvE servers have migrated to the most populated ones, or vice versa)?
 
And could Carbine provide some hard numbers on PvP vs PvE population, so that we could make a more informed choice on where we want to stay playing before we are locked out? A percentage would suffice, no need to mention the total number of players.	
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Pergo is the most populated server, hands down. Pergo has double the forum posts (10k to Stormtalon's 4.5k) and was the only server to continue showing Medium population after the change to Open.
 
My assumption is that hardcore PVPers have less reason to do non-PVP content, and that's why you have a hard time finding people.	
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			     PVP to PVE transfers are allowed now and for megaservers. Currently PVE transfers to PVP is not allowed (something about it being easier to get gear on pve since you do not have to worry about getting ganked and this would set unfair advantage over true PVP realm players) but according to CRB Cougar it is being, reluctantly, looked into.	
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Pergo has double the forum posts (10k to Stormtalon's 4.5k)
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What have you guys seen regarding the distribution of players among PvP vs PvE servers? 
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Forums were purged just before launch. Pre-launch posting and recruitment wouldn't apply
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			This really isn't a problem since we don't know how things are going to play out.  I am sure that PvE servers will have more people than PvP servers.  The main reason is that there are not many that actually want to go though all that is necessary to level on a PvP server ( avoiding "The Gank" ).	
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Take a look at the realm forum. Pergo has 35 pages worth of threads, and the oldest one to show for me is from March 20. Actually, General Discussion is showing the same date, so I guess the big purge must have been the day before.
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     PVP to PVE transfers are allowed now and for megaservers. Currently PVE transfers to PVP is not allowed (something about it being easier to get gear on pve since you do not have to worry about getting ganked and this would set unfair advantage over true PVP realm players) but according to CRB Cougar it is being, reluctantly, looked into.
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 but according to CRB Cougar it is being, reluctantly, looked into.
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I would also like to know how Stormtalon compares with Pergo. Right now I'm debating whether to stay in Pergo or not. World PvP is, for all intents and purposes, dead.
 
All you get is Stalkers ganking you in the daily zones....and rarely other classes starting a small skirmish with you. I have nothing against Stalkers but when all they do is gank you while you are fighting other mobs or just want to get the daily done, it starts getting old. Also it doesn't help that dailies are so damn boring that no one really wants to "prolong" the daily zone by engaging in world pvp.
 
I feel right now that being in a pvp server is nothing but a hassle with no pluses at all.
 
 	
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I would also like to know how Stormtalon compares with Pergo. Right now I'm debating whether to stay in Pergo or not. World PvP is, for all intents and purposes, dead.
 
All you get is Stalkers ganking you in the daily zones....and rarely other classes starting a small skirmish with you. I have nothing against Stalkers but when all they do is gank you while you are fighting other mobs or just want to get the daily done, it starts getting old. Also it doesn't help that dailies are so damn boring that no one really wants to "prolong" the daily zone by engaging in world pvp.
 
I feel right now that being in a pvp server is nothing but a hassle with no pluses at all.
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I would also like to know how Stormtalon compares with Pergo. Right now I'm debating whether to stay in Pergo or not. World PvP is, for all intents and purposes, dead.
 
I feel right now that being in a pvp server is nothing but a hassle with no pluses at all.
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I don't care if they run this game into the ground and turn it into an idle MMO made of real cash money, I will lose every ounce of my shit if they allow this.
 
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     PVP to PVE transfers are allowed now and for megaservers. Currently PVE transfers to PVP is not allowed (something about it being easier to get gear on pve since you do not have to worry about getting ganked and this would set unfair advantage over true PVP realm players) but according to CRB Cougar it is being, reluctantly, looked into.
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     PVP to PVE transfers are allowed now and for megaservers. Currently PVE transfers to PVP is not allowed (something about it being easier to get gear on pve since you do not have to worry about getting ganked and this would set unfair advantage over true PVP realm players) but according to CRB Cougar it is being, reluctantly, looked into.
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Just to bring up server transfers.
 
Once megaservers are live, there will be no transfers to and from any.
 
Currently, you can jump PVP and go to either PVP or PVE with a free transfer.
 
 
You cannot jump from PVE to PVP.
 
 
 
The only difference, is in PVP servers, you can open-world gank people.  If you do not partake, and are queueing, there is absolutely no reason to be on one or the other.  its preference.	
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TBH I feel like most nay sayers to the whole notion of allowing Pve --> PvP transfers feel so incline to deny it because of the whole, "I leveled in a ganking zone and you didn't." This argument really holds little to no water, at most all it did was add a few hours to your leveling process. I maxed out 4 characters on Rowsdower (PvP) and 2 of them never got ganked, I'm serious. I was on a dead PvP server while leveling 2 toons from the hours of 11pm-7am PST on a daily basis and never came across any opposing faction toon, or anyone for that matter, but hey, I leveled in a PvP zone so I earned my stripes....sarcasm*
			
				
	Edited October 13, 2014 by BusterCasey	
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Hey all,
 
I cleaned up this thread a bit. Please refrain from personal attacks and remember rule #1:
 
 
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1. We Won't Always Agree: You are welcome to disagree with anything you are exposed to on the WildStar forums. There will be a lot of things to disagree with, both amongst yourselves, and with the Carbine Development and Community teams. And, that’s okay! Just remember to keep your disagreements respectful, courteous, and polite.
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Just to bring up server transfers.
 
Once megaservers are live, there will be no transfers to and from any.
 
Currently, you can jump PVP and go to either PVP or PVE with a free transfer.
 
 
You cannot jump from PVE to PVP.
 
 
 
The only difference, is in PVP servers, you can open-world gank people.  If you do not partake, and are queueing, there is absolutely no reason to be on one or the other.  its preference.
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oh and this:
 
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/115783-the-battle-for-farside-report-for-duty-soldier-are-you-ready/	
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			Um, they aren't going to allow ANY PvP/PvE transfers in either direction once megaservers hit.	
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Um, they aren't going to allow ANY PvP/PvE transfers in either direction once megaservers hit.
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