102350-female-chau

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Ok I am sure this has been mentioned but a search has revealed nothing, maybe if should search harder....
 
Anyway I would like to see carbine release female Chau, the little lady and I play our mmo's together and she would love to play a female Chau, (she spends more time in the character creation screen than anyone I know), I guess there is some lore somewhere explaining the lack of Chau ladies, but how about it carbine?	
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*Chua. 
Chua are both genders. According to multiple twitter posts (Olivar can find that for ya) there are male and female Chua, but only they know what sexes they are. There aren't any physical clues to non Chua on who is male and who is female. And for the most part Chua don't care too much about others gender until they're ready to spawn. Also there's a lore bit in Farside saying something about DNA scanning to tell which Chua is which sex- but it's all top secret ;)	
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			A true Chau would just build himself a wife. Have her roll a Mechari & she won't be allowed to tell you "No"!	
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*Chua. 
Chua are both genders. According to multiple twitter posts (Olivar can find that for ya) there are male and female Chua, but only they know what sexes they are. There aren't any physical clues to non Chua on who is male and who is female. And for the most part Chua don't care too much about others gender until they're ready to spawn. Also there's a lore bit in Farside saying something about DNA scanning to tell which Chua is which sex- but it's all top secret ;)
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You can be a female Chua if you want to and thers quite a few people who have succesfully made "feminine" looking Chua without resorting to pink fur.(though Pink isn't the absolute female trait)
Lore wise if Mondo didn't actually call himself a he at random points giving his sex away(as well as lore on him) it could be argued that Mondo Zax could be a woman. So picture that....Mondo Zax in a 2 piece...there I hav eprobably scarred everyone on the forums now...
 
So basically they have 2 sexes, but one Gender...and the sex you choose to be is up to you the player.
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You can be a female Chua if you want to and thers quite a few people who have succesfully made "feminine" looking Chua without resorting to pink fur.(though Pink isn't the absolute female trait)
Lore wise if Mondo didn't actually call himself a he at random points giving his sex away(as well as lore on him) it could be argued that Mondo Zax could be a woman. So picture that....Mondo Zax in a 2 piece...there I hav eprobably scarred everyone on the forums now...
 
So basically they have 2 sexes, but one Gender...and the sex you choose to be is up to you the player.
EDIT: As Nazryn said...
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I have two hamsters, the pet store told me one is male and one is female, they had a litter together. I still don't know which one is which.
 
Not all species have sexual features which are obvious to us.	
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			There have been several threads about this already.  Although really what you should do is go to the "Post your Chua"  thread and scroll through a few pages. There's many people who have made female-looking chua.  Generally they involve pink fur, but there's quite a few that don't.  I think you'll be surprised at how well a job some of the people did.  	
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			Already been answered, but every Chua, except the one with the derpy face with whiskers, looks to have facial features that would be perceived as male on any other race.	
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I have two hamsters, the pet store told me one is male and one is female, they had a litter together. I still don't know which one is which.
Not all species have sexual features which are obvious to us.
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This only reinforces my above point. Derpy face with whiskers.
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*Chua. 
Chua are both genders. According to multiple twitter posts (Olivar can find that for ya) there are male and female Chua, but only they know what sexes they are. There aren't any physical clues to non Chua on who is male and who is female. And for the most part Chua don't care too much about others gender until they're ready to spawn. Also there's a lore bit in Farside saying something about DNA scanning to tell which Chua is which sex- but it's all top secret ;)
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Already been answered, but every Chua, except the one with the derpy face with whiskers, looks to have facial features that would be perceived as male on any other race.
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 But Wildstar is a new IP, so all the lore was made for the game. In other words, not having female Chua is just laziness. If they had wanted them, they would have changed the lore, so there would be a visual difference between male and female Chua. It wouldn't exactly be the only time the Wildtar-lore changed during development.
 
Plus, the awesome pictures here proves it is fully possible to have female Chua. Of course there's no rule saying the female of all species have to be smaller than the male. Female black widow spiders are for instance much bigger than the males. But I like having races I can relate to, I would much rather have a sexy, slim female chua than an even bigger, blobbier one than we already have.
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			Zid does not feel forced to conform to gender stereotypes. Knows that gender is spectrum not binary. Zid does think game needs more variety in character creation, hairstyles. All that matters is science. No time for love, Dr.Jones. 	
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Reezza's face is not the same face
 
 
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I actually went back and checked the entire "post your chua" thread, and you're absolutely right. They're all variation of the same face......CLONES! 
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There ARE female Chua. W* is a rather progressive game with rather progressive writing. Pappy intentionally designed the Chua to have 2 sexes but one gender. Just like ..... pretty much every rodent species IRL. Go find two bunnies or gerbils of the same species, with out checking their junk tell me what sex they are.. And then comment on how awesome their facial hair is (esp gerbils and guinea pigs) regardless of sex. 
 
 
I like the singular gender of Chua; it provides an interesting aspect to lore and leads to some interesting combinations for RP. it also taps the asexual aesthetic... you know the one enjoyed by those people who's sexuality no one talks about and who are marginalized well beyond any other sexual orientation....
 
The mix of gender relationships in the game is refreshing IMO.
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I have two hamsters, the pet store told me one is male and one is female, they had a litter together. I still don't know which one is which.
 
Not all species have sexual features which are obvious to us.
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Yes, there are two genders - in the lore. It doesn't mean squat when they look identical. That's what i mean by being lazy. There is absolutely no reason why they can't look unique. The story and lore was made for the game, not the other way around.
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Heck, aren't Mechari robots? Why do they have gender at all? How do they reproduce? I think it would make a lot more sense to have distinct male and female Chua, and just one Mechari-gender.
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I think the argument most ppl are trying ot make here is that there is very little option for a feminine looking chua and AMPLE choice for a masculine looking chua. all the diff bushy eye brows, hair, facial shapes, and facial hair spell male.
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Female dwarves [small, belligerent, engineering geniuses] have beards in quite a few fantasy settings.
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			They can definitely look feminine. Sorry about the poor quality of the pic, some of my screenshots come out horribly, while others come out perfectly.	
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A simple reason is that their own culture simply just doesn't care at all if you're female or male. You're imposing your idea of how a species should identify their gender within itself beyond overt Sexual dimorphism socially.
 
I'm not against Chua getting more options and I welcome almost anything that they would add that doesn't break the "1 gender, two sexes" design of Chua. This arguement has been beaten to death...and it comes down more so to how narrow or wide people are accepting of features not being exclusive feminine or masculine to a culture and in this case species as well that is not their own.
 
I wouldn't call it lazy at all...I'd call Mechari not having any voices lazy, but that's not the topic at hand...
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			In a way I agree that not creating a definitive female Chua model was lazy, or the result of time constraints, but at the very least, they could have added at least 50% more face and accessory options to make up for the lack of pickable genders.	
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But I really need a new one.
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			It is a bit strange they chose to make the Chua the uni-sex race (At least in player choice). Wouldn't the Mechari (Robots) be the obvious choice? ..there is technically no reason for them to have gender.	
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			Binary individuals get...almost every race in every MMO ever. Non-binary folks get the chua. A lot of people have been waiting a long time for a race that matches their gender identity, and frankly, seeing so many people begging to take that away is really discouraging.You have five other races and a ton of other games to go to if you want a character you can identify with.	
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Chua are fine the way they are.  One of the most common trends seen in this thread and elsewhere...people trying to make feminine chua using "girly" colors of fur.  Wanting different body shapes that conform to human female traits.  Human.
 
If you want more ambiguous options, great... But they're little furry rodents, they're SUPPOSED to be ambiguous.	
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 nope but most species of animals that have facial hair or manes and such... dont for females. Often times females are smaller sleeker or ahve a different coloring pattern. If you know the species well enough you can usually pick them out. maybe not at first glance but you can.
 
I think the argument most ppl are trying ot make here is that there is very little option for a feminine looking chua and AMPLE choice for a masculine looking chua. all the diff bushy eye brows, hair, facial shapes, and facial hair spell male. 
 
I played a chua in beta and tried my best ot make her look like a girl and found that every other person playing a chua that tried to do that ended up looking more or less the same as i did...
 
High ponytail, angular eyes and either red, blue, or pink fur.
 
Body types all together look heavily male. there isent a big butt one there isent one with a chest( which is fine ) but there isent one thats sleek without large forarms.. i actually prefer my chua fat as a feamle then thin just becuase it looks SO Akword...
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			Is there a hidden agenda here to get chua with boobs or something? The only valid addition would be more feminine faces and even then, it's not like space rats should look all that feminine.	
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I hate when people call design choices lazy just because you don't agree with it.
 
Everyone has been explaining to you very well why the Chua don't look different. There ARE female Chua you just don't like how they look.
 
Get over it. I actually think it's a pretty neat design choice.	
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Yes, there are two genders - in the lore. It doesn't mean squat when they look identical. That's what i mean by being lazy. There is absolutely no reason why they can't look unique. The story and lore was made for the game, not the other way around.
 
Heck, aren't Mechari robots? Why do they have gender at all? How do they reproduce? I think it would make a lot more sense to have distinct male and female Chua, and just one Mechari-gender.
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It is a bit strange they chose to make the Chua the uni-sex race (At least in player choice). Wouldn't the Mechari (Robots) be the obvious choice? ..there is technically no reason for them to have gender.
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You still don't get it? When the Chua was created in the game, they didn't have a culture. They didn't have a history. They might not even have had a name for their species. All they had were the sketches for the race. The whole culture, history, lore and all that came later. It's the same reason why we have those four paths we have. It has nothing to do about lore, history, culture, the new planet or anything like that. It has everything to do with tailoring different playstyles. So yet again, the story,culture, lore, history and so on was made for the game. The game wasn't made for the story and all that. You never, ever make the story first, then change the game to fit. You always focus on gameplay first. Part because a lot of gamers don't care about the story, lore, history and all that, and part because gameplay should always come first in a game.
 
So to summon up, I just want to know why we didn't get a second version of the Chua. It doesn't matter if the current one is the male or female one. But I really need a new one, to distinguish the male and female versions. Even if it's only a different tail, different hair and different jewelry. But only making one version of the chua is just lazy.
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But Wildstar is a new IP, so all the lore was made for the game. In other words, not having female Chua is just laziness. 
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Is there a hidden agenda here to get chua with boobs or something? The only valid addition would be more feminine faces and even then, it's not like space rats should look all that feminine.
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			Everyone asks for equality, but when you show them what it's really like.. they complain. .. Typical.	
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBxFy0BMO0k&feature=player_detailpage#t=55
 
This discussion kinda reminds me of that episode of friends (starts at 0:55).
 
I've done the same things as everyone else to make my Chua look like a female.  Skinny body, skinny forearms, hair, and derp face.  However the first time your Chua gets hit and lets out an Eric Cartman like yelp then that kinda breaks the illusion for me.  Lore reasons aside i wont bother guessing if they did it cause they were lazy, ran out of time, or whatever.  We're here now and we gotta deal with it.  People are already asking for several more new hairstyles for humans and i can see them adding in stuff like that.  So they could add in a few more fem looking Chua hairstyles while they are at it. Maybe even a face similar to derp face but with a little more makeup around the eyes or cheeks. Maybe have the accessories option for Chuas include earrings AND underwear options? you have the option to put on a pair of tightie whities or a pink camisole or something hehe. 
 
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Best I could do.. but I found a female Chau
 	
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I found a better female Chau. 	
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I used to be a bit iffy about Chua genders, until I made a Chua I fell in love with. Yes, my Smirkles has the 'derpy' face - but I don't think I've ever had a sweeter-looking character in a game.
 
 
I no longer mind that there isn't a girl version of my character. I do wish for more varieties of facial hair that aren't butch, though. Longer whiskers or fuzzy sideburns, or big floofy eyebrows without a beard, for instance. In my opinion, we don't necessarily need female features but we could do with some more genderless options. There are plenty of fuzzy things that could be added that aren't bushy beards.I don't even mind that there aren't separate genders to pick - I'm just sorry that within the options that we got, so few actually correspond to the kind of character I'd like to play.
 
 
All that being said... definitely my favourite race in the game. The animations and emotes are beyond comparison.	
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Thank you. 
 
OK, maybe it was some creative idea and they really were trying to be different, but you gotta look at the end product. One race, with one gender, so half the customization options of any other race. It may be well intentioned, but it comes across as lazy, especially since there are many typically male options but very few typically female options. It's like they got the males done and said 'You know what, let's save time and just not make the females. We'll just say chua have one gender or that it's hard to tell males and females apart.' 
 
It'd be something else entirely if chua had twice the customization of other races and had many masculine, feminine and neutral options. If that were true, I'd gladly stand up for Carbine on this. 
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Chua is the best!	
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Chua is the best!
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Chua not share secret of sombrero!	
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			What kind of female race has no boobs? it doesnt even get me interested >.>	
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What kind of female race has no boobs? it doesnt even get me interested >.>
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Sure, it would be lazy if they implemented Chua being 1 gender to save time or resources, but we don't and (probably) won't know if that was the reason. It's just as likely they make it 1 gender for the sake of lore, which I personally like.
If they add masculine and feminine options then it defies the point of Chua. All the options should be neutral as their sex should not be determined by appearance.
That is by design. It does seem skewed towards masculine in the options so they should either balance the options or make more neutral options.
I still like the design of them, its very unique.
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The Chua aren't skewed either way. We have defined traits like long eyelashes, fuller lips and slimmer bodies as feminine. But these traits are not unique to one gender in fact we make products specifically for women so they can appear to have these traits more than men.
 
But humans aside Chua are clearly some sort of intelligent rodent. Next time you have a chance go take a look at mice, rats, hamsters, rabbits, guinea pigs or whatever rodent you want, and try to tell the sex without looking at the reproductive organs, we cannot because they do not fall within those traits. It's not just rodents that work like this either, many animals have no clear differentiation in genders outside of reproduction organs.
 
This is just our hangup with anything not having traits we associate with being a woman, automatically being considered male. Which is just simply not true. This is why when we anthropomorphize animals in our cartoons and games, we give the females ridiculous traits that make them more like human women than like whatever animal they were based on in the first place. More customization options are great but we dont need "girly" parts for the Chua at all. Half the Chua you see are female already.
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I used to be a bit iffy about Chua genders, until I made a Chua I fell in love with. Yes, my Smirkles has the 'derpy' face - but I don't think I've ever had a sweeter-looking character in a game.
 
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Chua is the best!
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The Chua aren't skewed either way. We have defined traits like long eyelashes, fuller lips and slimmer bodies as feminine. But these traits are not unique to one gender in fact we make products specifically for women so they can appear to have these traits more than men.
 
But humans aside Chua are clearly some sort of intelligent rodent. Next time you have a chance go take a look at mice, rats, hamsters, rabbits, guinea pigs or whatever rodent you want, and try to tell the sex without looking at the reproductive organs, we cannot because they do not fall within those traits. It's not just rodents that work like this either, many animals have no clear differentiation in genders outside of reproduction organs.
 
This is just our hangup with anything not having traits we associate with being a woman, automatically being considered male. Which is just simply not true. This is why when we anthropomorphize animals in our cartoons and games, we give the females ridiculous traits that make them more like human women than like whatever animal they were based on in the first place. More customization options are great but we dont need "girly" parts for the Chua at all. Half the Chua you see are female already.
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All fine and dandy until they start giving them clearly male things like beards and mustaches and tighty whities and the male dance and a male voice and... 
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			Basically you can make a female looking hamster if you add the typical stereotype customization on. However, any Chua can technically be female. The pink fur purple eyes is just you humanizing said chua.	
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Basically you can make a female looking hamster if you add the typical stereotype customization on. However, any Chua can technically be female. The pink fur purple eyes is just you humanizing said chua.
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here you have example of totally female chua...
 
 
 
here you have example of "can´t tell if female or unlucky male" chua:	
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Like mentioned before: people need to stop forcing human views onto the Chua. Asking for more "femnine" options is fine, although I think there's just enough. There's at least free face types available that could easily be made into something that looks femine: The "Disney approved/anime face, the perpetually worried face and the smug face. Asking for a legimately playable female chua would just ruin the supposed mystery behind the race.
 
Speaking of mystery: I feel like a lot of people are kind of misinterpreting the whole chua genders and breeding thing, especially from a roleplay standpoint. Yes, it's been mentioned time and time again from Pappy himself that they have sexes/genders, but don't recall Pappy ever saying that their sexes/genders would something as simple as there being male and female chua and nothing else. For all we know as players, chua could be a race of hermaphrodites, or reproduce asexually, or could be a predominantly male race that has a female broodmother that breeds all other chua or something. Who knows? I don't, but that's half the fun with the race. Very much the reason why they shouldn't go around saying "I'm a guy chua and we breed with female chua all the time" or something like that.
 
I groan everytime I see a roleplaying chua that flat out tells people what their gender and sexual orientation is in-character and while in public, completely de-valuing the mystery. It would be fine if some chua RPers were saying these things as a joke (even the taxi driver in-game makes a comment about this), but everytime I see them say these things, they always come off as serious. Bugs the crap out of me. Sure, on my PDA addon I have my character's gender put down as "Male (?)" in quotations simply to state that other races have primiarily identified my character as male based on its appearance, but have never once mentioned what its gender actually was. The only time I feel the need to use a male pronoun for my character while roleplaying is ONLY during emotes for the sake of grammar and expression, because emoting while only using words in third-person can be quite difficult and confusing for other roleplayers to read.
 
At the least, I always pick a fight (in-character) with the kinds of chua that blab out their genders and whatnot by calling them braindead, brainwashed exiles supporters and filthy aurin loves, which always seems to rile them up and it makes me feel better.
 
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I hate when people call design choices lazy just because you don't agree with it.
 
Everyone has been explaining to you very well why the Chua don't look different. There ARE female Chua you just don't like how they look.
 
Get over it. I actually think it's a pretty neat design choice.
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Agreed, however you should be able to choose different voice and emote options for Chua based on you're intentions. 
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As I've said before, who's to say that bushy eyebrows and drooping mustaches aren't the height of Chua femininity? Who's to say all Chua don't sound alike to human ears? Who's to say that the differences in their dimorphism is obvious to them (say, pheromone-based) and the rest of us just can't tell one from the other?
 
Stop pushing your humanocentric hang-ups on a race of aliens.	
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			No no, bushy mustaches are an Aurin feminine feature. Aurin are the Dwarves of Wildstar, not Chua. Facial hair is not in style right now, that's all. Hopefully they come back in mode in the future.	
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