Report 1793

Report #1793
Skillset: Influence Skill: Influencing
 Org: Serenwilde Status: Rejected Aug 2017
Furies' Decision:
We do not feel this is necessary.
Problem: When influencing in a room, NPCs that have already been influenced are
moved to the back of the "stack" (so if there are 20 fae in a room, and 5 have
been influenced, influencing fae will work through the ones that haven't been
influenced yet). However, with multiple types of creatures with the same noun
(such as fae) you can have different mindsets. Glomdoring must weaken fae, but
fae knights are immune to being weakened, which means that though Serenwilde can
just empower all Fae, Glomdoring must target by type when a Fae knight is in the
room.
[A:12 R: 0] Solution #1: When an influence target is immune to the type of
 influence you are trying to use, also move it to the
 back of the stack (influence NPCs that aren't immune
 first).
Player Comments:
---[Sondayga on 8/15 @ 21:57 sets as pending]
---[Sondayga on 8/15 @ 21:58 sets as draft]
---[Sondayga on 8/15 @ 21:58 sets as pending]
---[Xenthos on 8/16 @ 00:07 writes]:
Well, obviously I approve!
---[Ejderha on 8/21 @ 18:01 writes]:
Isn't this what analyze is for? Celest and Hallifax don't even have a shared
noun among types, we get along just fine. If this is implemented, I think it
should only move to the back of the stack once the failed influence hits,
costing the eq - otherwise, nothing stopping spam of influence types. At which
point, the person could just have analyzed with their eq anyway. This seems
unnecessary to me.
---[Xenthos on 8/21 @ 22:23 writes]:
Um, what? No, this isn't what analyze is really for. What are you even talking
about? Is your suggestion to analyze a fae knight to determine that it can't be
influenced by weakening so that you can... still not influence it? You don't
even need to analyze it to know that, this report lays it out explicitly without
burning your EQ.
---[Xenthos on 8/21 @ 22:25 writes]:
I'm really just at a loss, your exact same argument applies to things moving to
the end of the stack when already influenced. They're essentially the same
thing (mob can't be influenced). Yet that was a QoL change that made life a
fair bit better for everyone so you didn't have to use IH and influence by ID#
all the way down the list 1x1.
---[Ejderha on 8/21 @ 22:43 writes]:
Please ignore my earlier comment, I was able to clear up my misunderstanding
with Xenthos. Since this is about the gathering of Fae, and this presents a
material and asymmetrical disadvantage, I support resolving the difference.