145930-auction-house

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Hello everyone. This is just a quick question / personal rant.
 
I'm not gonna say I'm the most avid gamer on the universe but I've played quite a few mmo's and holy *cupcake*, I've never encountered such a confusing/difficult to use auction house. Is it just me (and my best friend who I play with) that I'm so used to the "common auction house"? (wow, swtor, TERA, almosteveryothermmoouthere, etc). I spent like 10 minutes figuring out how it works and I think I understood finally, but maybe there are some other things that I still need to figure out. Anyone else found it difficult as well? Or confusing? Specially the listings and pricing stuff. 	
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			It just takes some getting used to is all.	
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I think there are some addons around that make it tolerable but I do agree.
 
The AH and CE are absolutely horrible. 
 
I know they went for a more "hardcore" game but having to type 80000 if I want to sell something for 8 gold isn't hardcore, it's tedious.
 
As for the CE, I was here from day one on and off and I still have no idea how it works. It is the least intuitive system i've ever seen. I avoid it like I avoid genital herpes. 	
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Hello everyone. This is just a quick question / personal rant.
 
I'm not gonna say I'm the most avid gamer on the universe but I've played quite a few mmo's and holy *cupcake*, I've never encountered such a confusing/difficult to use auction house. Is it just me (and my best friend who I play with) that I'm so used to the "common auction house"? (wow, swtor, TERA, almosteveryothermmoouthere, etc). I spent like 10 minutes figuring out how it works and I think I understood finally, but maybe there are some other things that I still need to figure out. Anyone else found it difficult as well? Or confusing? Specially the listings and pricing stuff. 
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I think there are some addons around that make it tolerable but I do agree.
 
The AH and CE are absolutely horrible. 
 
I know they went for a more "hardcore" game but having to type 80000 if I want to sell something for 8 gold isn't hardcore, it's tedious.
 
As for the CE, I was here from day one on and off and I still have no idea how it works. It is the least intuitive system i've ever seen. I avoid it like I avoid genital herpes. 
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It's a mare. Trying to buy multiples of anything makes me sick. I miss eq2 and even the simplicity of Warhammers aor's 
 
I don't know how carbine could have got it so disfunctional given the countless examples they could literally have copied. I'd love to meet the guy that made it and ask him/them how much of an afterthought the system was...	
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It's a mare. Trying to buy multiples of anything makes me sick. I miss eq2 and even the simplicity of Warhammers aor's
 
I don't know how carbine could have got it so disfunctional given the countless examples they could literally have copied. I'd love to meet the guy that made it and ask him/them how much of an afterthought the system was...
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There's so many things they could do better with the AH I don't even know where to begin. Oh wait, I do because I just ran into one of the things wrong with it.
 
Just now while window shopping, er, shopping for windows, I ran into "too many results, please refine your search" or something along those lines. Oh gee, I was going to look what variations were available so I set it to housing decor and entered "window". Silly me, I should've known I should have taken to google beforehand to figure out what windows there are, which one I want and then search the AH for that one specifically.
It's not like anyone has ever heard of a search with too many results simply displaying the first 100 or so with a notice that there are more results that are not displayed unless filtered further. Nah, lets display no results at all. If the customer doesn't know exactly what he wants he has no business trying to buy stuff.
However, if you enter no search terms at all and just click on a category the silly thing has no qualms about showing you a list of random things in the category you've selected. Go figure.	
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All I needed to know about how "amazing" our Auction House is came the first time I typed "Lopp" into the Decor category and got the now-infamous line
 
TOO MANY ITEMS TO DISPLAY
 
horsecrap.
 
Pure, plain, simple horsecrap. I don't want to refine my search. If I knew exactly what I wanted, I would have typed it. I *want* to see EVERY FREAKING THING WITH THE WORD LOPP IN IT AT ONE FREAKING TIME.
 
I don't know who was responsible for the awful, terrible, very bad, primitive Interface we have now, but I hope they've been canned and replaced, or maybe reassigned to work on something that people don't actually use, like Warplots.
 
But seriously, that message makes me want to scream and punch babies every time I see it. TOO MANY?!?!
 
And what's the deal with reverting back to the FIRST FREAKING PAGE every time you make a purchase. I get 28 pages into 150 pages of items, find something I want ... and I have to navigate back through TWENTY EIGHT FREAKING PAGES to continue my search? That's proof that "too many to display" is a *cupcake* LIE because the AH has no problem displaying 150+ pages of items at a time. Why does it have a problem displaying a narrowed down search?
 
But yeah, I'm with everyone here. There is nothing good about our AH/CX interface. Nothing. At. All.
 
It sucks. It's a blight on this game and we deserve better than this hammer-and-chisel-on-stone-tablet that we've got now.	
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			Bring back the EQ Bazaar! :)	
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I will keep this short because if I get started im liable to go on about how awful the UI is in general. I agree fully that they need to do something about the AH as it is really cumbersome and clunky to use and it feels very archaic for such a modern style game.
 
I think a rework on the AH is long overdue. 	
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			Id settle for being able to search, or sort, by character level~	
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All I needed to know about how "amazing" our Auction House is came the first time I typed "Lopp" into the Decor category and got the now-infamous line
 
TOO MANY ITEMS TO DISPLAY
 
horsecrap.
 
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The auction house and commodity exchanges' terrible UI and poor accessibility / usability is a constant frustration every single time I have to use it. Carbine should be deeply embarrassed by it. If they aren't then it speaks volumes about how much they actually care about their game.
 
But really the AH is just symptomatic of a wider problem of poor accessibility that permeates the entire game UI. F2P launch was a perfect opportunity to improve some of the core UI components, including the AH. Sadly totally squandered. As a result there's lots of new players struggling with exactly the same UI issues players encountered back at original launch. There's been almost zero progress in this aspect of the game.
 
The "it takes some getting used to" and "use addons" defenses just don't cut it. Some MMOs had better auction houses (or equivalent) a decade ago and nearly all of Wildstar's current competitors do a much better job, regardless of subscription model. There was no need to reinvent the wheel and many of the design decisions with the Wildstar's AH are truly puzzling. We should all expect better from a modern MMO.	
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Yes, please fix this disaster.
 
I  honestly avoid listing things because it's such a pain to re-list stuff.
 
Would like to actually... browse dyes too.	
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Shameless self plug!  The Katia Builder Toolkit now has a "decor shopper" tool.  You can enter "Lopp", it will show you every available decor with that word in the name as a list of pretty preview models, and when you find one you like you can tell it to search the AH for that one with the click of a button:)
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Aw, glad you like it!  But keep in mind that Carbine has a loooot of stuff to work on, having been underfunded and understaffed for quite some time now.  Hopefully with the increased f2p income they will be able to hire/rehire some devs and address more of it!
 
And as for the Auction House, I wouldn't be surprised if someone made an auction addon soon.  The addon community too is growing rapidly with the f2p influx.	
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I was really, really hoping they'd be able to get the UI fixed for several things at F2P launch, AH/CX at the top of my list. Unfortunately, it appears they weren't able to make the time.  I'm still hoping they will, because personally, I think the CX is a brilliant idea... being able to make buy orders?  Excellent!  The concepts involved COULD use a help screen, maybe once the UI is updated...
 
The only other thing I'd wish to see in an MMO is a crafting order board... post up orders for gear with particular stats, and have someone build it and fill the order.  Would work a lot like the CX for armor/etc, but would need the ability to post more exacting details.	
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I had forgotten during my play at original launch that the Auction House was abysmal. I was getting ready to start playing around with the economy for a bit of extra plat, then was quickly reminded how terrible that interface is.
 
Everything about it is just plain wrong. It's a hassle just putting up a few items, and it's very easy when putting up multiple items at once to forget a 0.
 
Although I've come to accept the fact that this game's interface is perhaps the worst I've ever seen, I figured by now core systems such as the AH would at least be properly functional. I was so very wrong.
 
Oh well - the game is fun, and that's what matters. I'll play the AH once they smash the current one with a sledgehammer and build it from the ground up.	
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As for the CE, I was here from day one on and off and I still have no idea how it works. It is the least intuitive system i've ever seen. I avoid it like I avoid genital herpes. 
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I will keep this short because if I get started im liable to go on about how awful the UI is in general. I agree fully that they need to do something about the AH as it is really cumbersome and clunky to use and it feels very archaic for such a modern style game.
 
I think a rework on the AH is long overdue. 
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			I agree, on everything.	
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			Try EZAuction, it makes things in the AH much easier. Check it out http://www.curse.com/ws-addons/wildstar/221721-ezauction	
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			I would love to see that they add a characterlevel filter to the auction house. itemLevel filter just doesnt do the trick	
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My suggestions:
 
1. Make it to where you can drag the item to the search bar and the text will be automatically entered to search by (for when comparing items you are going to post for sale).
 
2. Make it so Plat/Gold/Silver/Copper has it's own section and allow you to tab through. This way you can change just the gold portion instead of having to delete four 0's. Right now if you want to put something up for 2 plat, you have to put 2 00 00 00. Why not make it so you just put a 2 in the plat section and you are done? Oh you changed your mind and you want to charge an extra 50g? just put 50 in that section.
 
3. For items not stacked and (for example... let's say Runes). Make it so if you have the same item already posted on the AH, the price is remembered so you can quick post the same item.	
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			I don't even bother with the auction house cause it's too complex for me. I'm used to WoW style or pretty much simplistic stuff when it comes features like that.	
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What's up with the search function, anyways? The Dominion controls most of the galaxy, but its search engines are unable to search for generic terms like "marauder"? Maybe they're teaching the citizenry to be more precise...
 
Too bad that I don't know the names of half the stuff I'm looking for. :P	
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			EzAuction and BetterMoneyInput saves lives and sanity.  Just putting that out there :P	
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EzAuction and BetterMoneyInput saves lives and sanity.  Just putting that out there :P
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EzAuction and BetterMoneyInput saves lives and sanity.  Just putting that out there :P
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