103111-39-pts-in-rbgs-2-sss-hacking-no-cdcharged-time-on-charged-shot

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			The best part of this is we had one guy at 1499 elo, and I was 1468. Will be putting a youtube vid on reddit shortly. And of course they have been reported. 	
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			can I have your stuff	
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You can fire off charged shot without charging it.
 
That's how it works.
 
Longer charge does more damage/longer cooldown.	
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			You'll see, it was an obvious hack. they were insta-clearing full teams.	
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The best part of this is we had one guy at 1499 elo, and I was 1468. Will be putting a youtube vid on reddit shortly. And of course they have been reported. 
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See my sig. Spellslingers need to be buffed.
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I just encountered about 8 bots in BGs and one aimbot in particular.
 
that smooth player tracking is nice.. wish I could I use it too :/	
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So what you're saying is if I get full 1800 I too can one shot people with no PvP gear?
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Ok yea, I want a machine-gun charged shot.
 
How do I get this?
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			Charged shot is too bursty anyway, this is just... wow.	
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I assume it's something along these lines:
 
1. Be a dev.
2. Be bored.
3. Hate your playerbase like all the other devs.
4. Do this.
5. ???
6. Profit.
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			Beginning to wonder if CS implemented any anti cheat at all lol.	
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You need to check your mail... damn.
 
On Topic: yeah... obvious hax are obvious	
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			Winners gotta win.	
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Winners gotta win.
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			We also ran into 4 teams that had 4+ ppl w 1800 arena gear in the sub 1500 elo rating, tanked their rating to carry friends in rbg's. Those losses were also around 40pts gone each. PVP is why I joined this game, its sheen is quickly fading and becoming lackluster.	
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			cast speed is not fully serverside? epic	
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I was doing normals and a full 1800 premade came in for the lulz... I was just farming points for my 1500 gear ~.~
 
Back on topic.. This is really really sloppy security in your client's code for people to keep doing these things.
 
A few nights a go a stalker tank was picking up moddie masks from the ramps and cave sides .. wish I was able to record it.. 	
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Beginning to wonder if CS implemented any anti cheat at all lol.
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I just encountered about 8 bots in BGs and one aimbot in particular.
 
that smooth player tracking is nice.. wish I could I use it too :/
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Hi Folks,
 
We don't allow for name / shame threads to be posted here on the forums, so I did remove the video that was linked. Obviously players who hack and cheat make things no fun for anyone, and we request that you please report these in-game using the /ticket function, so that our team can investigate the situation. 
 
Thank you very much
- team WildStar 	
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What i can't understand is, why can players make aim bots that let for perfect hit position tracking, but the Devs can't make our hits connect well in the first place haha
 
I'm missing kicks of people in my telegraph and these people are auto-tracking perfect charged shots from a mile away. :(
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Literally that video is one of, if not THE, trollest video i have ever seenSo there is no anti-cheat mod what so ever then right?
If you're thinking of quitting this game because of the brokenness then this is how to quit in style
Think everyone should watch this video and some sort of moderator/dev/carbine person should read this forum and watch this video....
that being so I doubt any of them will. Good job for reporting them unfortunately its all you can do.
 
*Update* The moderator comes to the rescue of the botters and takes down the videoI literally laughed out loud when I read the moderators commentI understand policy, but its still funny.to original player: sorry this happened to you hopefully it gets fixedto moderator: ty for the lulz	
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Just watched the video (that's since been mod removed) and holy shit Carbine fix your shit already.
 
 
Those players were doing 30+ charged shots back to back at full charge with no cd or charge time.
 
How did this one get through too?
 
 
Sad.
 
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I think it's latency related. I can never land kicks on people that are on the edge of it(last ~1/3 of the telegraph), but it's usually fine if they're closer.
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			There is a whole lotta butthurt going on up in here.	
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Hi Folks,
 
We don't allow for name / shame threads to be posted here on the forums, so I did remove the video that was linked. Obviously players who hack and cheat make things no fun for anyone, and we request that you please report these in-game using the /ticket function, so that our team can investigate the situation. 
 
Thank you very much
- team WildStar 
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I have to agree that protecting hacker identities when it's perfectly obvious is a policy that should be looked at again.
Sure, "naming and shaming" without evidence can quickly lead to a spiral of unfounded accusations ( I'd still say the benefits outweigh the problems, but I understand).
 
But the video is clear as day. There can be no question these people were blatantly hacking. No two ways about it.
 
P.S.: Exploiter/Hacker mentality always amazes me. They weren't content with just hacking/abusing a little bit to gain an edge, no no, that wouldn't do at all.
They had to make it so they could chain-spam the most powerful single burst ability in the game. Just wow.	
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			Well, I wont call them out on the forums,( I sorta understand the innocent till guilty, but they were CLEARLY guilty here) but anyone who wants to know their names and or see the video in PM's is welcome to ask me. Including the dev team ofc. (That shouldnt break the TOS iirc right?	
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Hi Folks,
 
We don't allow for name / shame threads to be posted here on the forums, so I did remove the video that was linked. Obviously players who hack and cheat make things no fun for anyone, and we request that you please report these in-game using the /ticket function, so that our team can investigate the situation. 
 
Thank you very much
- team WildStar 
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Your policy needs re-examining. This video was a clear demonstration of hacking - these players seek to devalue and make a mockery of your game and you protect them by taking down links with proof and doing (from the community's point of view) nothing but protecting these people whom you *should* be trying to Name, shame and run out of your game with their tails between their legs. This sort of policy toward people who seek to ruin your game goes very much against the "hardcore" image you folks keep trying to portray.
 
Where's the "thanks for the video we've forwarded this to <team that actually cares about the integrity of the game> these folks will be dealt with in accordance to <our awesome policy which doesn't protect hackers>"
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Your policy needs re-examining. This video was a clear demonstration of hacking - these players seek to devalue and make a mockery of your game and you protect them by taking down links with proof and doing (from the community's point of view) nothing but protecting these people whom you *should* be trying to Name, shame and run out of your game with their tails between their legs. This sort of policy toward people who seek to ruin your game goes very much against the "hardcore" image you folks keep trying to portray.
 
Where's the "thanks for the video we've forwarded this to <team that actually cares about the integrity of the game> these folks will be dealt with in accordance to <our awesome policy which doesn't protect hackers>"
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Your policy needs re-examining. This video was a clear demonstration of hacking - these players seek to devalue and make a mockery of your game and you protect them by taking down links with proof and doing (from the community's point of view) nothing but protecting these people whom you *should* be trying to Name, shame and run out of your game with their tails between their legs. This sort of policy toward people who seek to ruin your game goes very much against the "hardcore" image you folks keep trying to portray.
 
Where's the "thanks for the video we've forwarded this to <team that actually cares about the integrity of the game> these folks will be dealt with in accordance to <our awesome policy which doesn't protect hackers>"
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Where's the "thanks for the video we've forwarded this to these folks will be dealt with in accordance to "
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Don't start this argument....you're not going to win it.
Instead of naming and shaming on the forum, the info could have been forward to support as well.
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Your policy needs re-examining. This video was a clear demonstration of hacking - these players seek to devalue and make a mockery of your game and you protect them by taking down links with proof and doing (from the community's point of view) nothing but protecting these people whom you *should* be trying to Name, shame and run out of your game with their tails between their legs. This sort of policy toward people who seek to ruin your game goes very much against the "hardcore" image you folks keep trying to portray.
 
Where's the "thanks for the video we've forwarded this to <team that actually cares about the integrity of the game> these folks will be dealt with in accordance to <our awesome policy which doesn't protect hackers>"
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We have an email address for exploits to be emailed to - theredphone@carbinestudios.com (the OP was already thanked and contacted and given the email address in a PM) and this video was sent there so that the team could look at it and investigate, of course we always appreciate players who report these players. I'm sorry that the forum policy doesn't allow for name / shame threads but we do appreciate the emails. 
 
- Team WildStar 
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We have an email address for exploits to be emailed to - theredphone@carbinestudios.com (the OP was already thanked and contacted and given the email address in a PM) and this video was sent there so that the team could look at it and investigate, of course we always appreciate players who report these players. I'm sorry that the forum policy doesn't allow for name / shame threads but we do appreciate the emails. 
 
- Team WildStar 
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Actually, no I was not. I can show you a ss of my pm folder if you wish. No thanks, no reassurance, no forwarded email. This is upsetting that you would feel the need to say otherwise.
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Ugh, you are correct, I had another thread with the exact same thing, and had a PM ongoing with someone else about it requesting to post the videos. This is my mistake and I'm deeply sorry. I meant to thank both of you, and only hit one. We DO appreciate all of the exploits that get passed up, and I am sorry that I didn't thank you from the outset. 
 
Again my apologies. 
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We have an email address for exploits to be emailed to - theredphone@carbinestudios.com (the OP was already thanked and contacted and given the email address in a PM) and this video was sent there so that the team could look at it and investigate, of course we always appreciate players who report these players. I'm sorry that the forum policy doesn't allow for name / shame threads but we do appreciate the emails. 
 
- Team WildStar 
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Ugh, you are correct, I had another thread with the exact same thing
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			RedTape and Chill has stated that reimbursement is highly unlikely but we shall see. I am hopeful as the situation was very blatant. Either way, thanks for the contact Chill.	
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No problem, again sorry that I had mistaken the other fellow for you, the conversations were so alike it didn't even click. I'll be better about it in the future. :) Thanks again for reporting the situation. 
 
- Team WildStar 	
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			He was likely a teammate of mine. we were having fun climbing elo, getting better at pvp, and playing together. So in turn our resonce to being beat into the dirt by hackers and boosters all afternoon yesterday left us very... impassioned. 	
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I have to agree that protecting hacker identities when it's perfectly obvious is a policy that should be looked at again.
Sure, "naming and shaming" without evidence can quickly lead to a spiral of unfounded accusations ( I'd still say the benefits outweigh the problems, but I understand).
 
But the video is clear as day. There can be no question these people were blatantly hacking. No two ways about it.
 
P.S.: Exploiter/Hacker mentality always amazes me. They weren't content with just hacking/abusing a little bit to gain an edge, no no, that wouldn't do at all.
They had to make it so they could chain-spam the most powerful single burst ability in the game. Just wow.
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cast speed is not fully serverside? epic
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haha, is it "wildstar, hackers. joy."? That was indeed lulzy. 
 
How can they seriously have this much client side?
 
 
This would also explain how some people are able to insta cap masks. By making the "cast time" near instant. I wonder if they've even gotten reported since so many people wanted to believe it was lag.	
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We have an email address for exploits to be emailed to - theredphone@carbinestudios.com (the OP was already thanked and contacted and given the email address in a PM) and this video was sent there so that the team could look at it and investigate, of course we always appreciate players who report these players. I'm sorry that the forum policy doesn't allow for name / shame threads but we do appreciate the emails. 
 
- Team WildStar 
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It's a good policy, otherwise I'd baselessly accuse LankyBrit of hacking PVP and ninja looting dungeons all the time. Because
 
Moderator Edit: It's not okay to name & shame even in jest, unless they're British
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			Awesome edit.	
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We don't allow for name / shame threads to be posted here on the forums, so I did remove the video that was linked.
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Can someone explain this?  There is absolutely ZERO reason for not allowing this.
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Because then I could just make a post and say "DrakGarage was teleporting and hacking all over Wilderrun today. I couldn't get a video or screen shot because he was way too fast, but I totally saw it with my own two eyes!" and... well. Then what?
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...that's witch-hunting, which is different.  Highlighted that difference for clarity.
 
So does anyone have a REAL explanation?
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			Whats more bothersome is Moderators, Customer support, and RedTape all denying any reimbursment when this was obvious hacking/cheating. 	
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...that's witch-hunting, which is different.  Highlighted that difference for clarity.  And witch-hunting is definitely bad, which is why some larger game forums have anti-witch-hunting policies, like the League of Legends Subreddit.  But here we have clear evidence being shown, so that's a completely different situation.
 
So, does anyone have a REAL explanation?
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Whats more bothersome is Moderators, Customer support, and RedTape all denying any reimbursment when this was obvious hacking/cheating. 
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			You are very wise.	
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			I'd love to see the video if someone could send PM me a link....	
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Hi Folks,
 
We don't allow for name / shame threads to be posted here on the forums, so I did remove the video that was linked. Obviously players who hack and cheat make things no fun for anyone, and we request that you please report these in-game using the /ticket function, so that our team can investigate the situation. 
 
Thank you very much
- team WildStar 
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			Carbine bans people who use third party software to hack the game, but they don't ban bug exploiters. These people will not be banned once the bug is patched.	
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			I know, right? Not subtle at all.	
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			As Chillia pointed out earlier in this thread, making threads/posts to name and shame or call out or report hackers, cheaters, and botters is not the way to go. Please use /ticket in game or send an email to theredphone@carbinestudios.com	
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