Report 1743

Report #1743
Skillset: Wicca Skill: Willowisp
 Org: Glomdoring Status: Completed Jul 2017
Furies' Decision:
Solution 3.
Problem: In the nature of looking into summons for all guardian style classes
and making them effective.
[A:14 R: 0] Solution #1: Remove the terrain requirements of willowisp
 entirely. At the same time on cast make the willowisp
 appear in the targets room. Make the willowisp kill
 able in one hit by all. Killing the willowisp
 counters the summon.
[A:11 R: 0] Solution #2: Make willowisp only require a dryad at the targets
 side on cast and completion. Make moving the dryad an
 instant effect. The counter then will be chopping the
 dryad tree before the summon finishes. ADDITIONAL:
 Make Shadow and Moon Dryads distinct in entry line,
 room line and use. A Moon wiccan can not summon from
 a Wyrd Dryad and vise versa. Also dryads can be
 summoned indoors.
[A:15 R: 0] Solution #3: When ordering a wisp to summon someone if a wisp is
 not present you get the generic you "You cannot see
 that being here." and similar messages. Can we change
 this line to something akin to "There is no willowisp
 present to attempt to summon that target."
Player Comments:
---[Veyils on 7/4 @ 18:01 sets as pending]
---[Shedrin on 7/5 @ 20:05 writes]:
Solution 1 sounds good. Not tying Dryad to this allows Dryad to be balanced
around its other uses. A power increase should probably be considered, though.
---[Veyils on 7/6 @ 19:46 writes]:
Solution 1 make faesummon willowisp 3 power, solution two leave faesummon
willowisp at 1 power due to the extra balance required?
---[Xenthos on 7/6 @ 21:56 writes]:
Once upon a time, wisp was made to not work across terrain types (so you
couldn't wisp from Hartforest to Wyrd or viceversa). A SD's Dryad counted as
Wyrd, and a MDs as Hartforest. This was done so that being in your own Druid
meld wouldn't be a liability vs. an opposing team, as it made Mage melds
superior. It looks like at some point this got reverted / undone. Not sure
why, but if this report isn't accepted that should probably be fixed.
---[Tarken on 7/7 @ 20:47 writes]:
Preference for solution 2, but solution 1 would be fine too.
---[Veyils on 7/10 @ 15:28 writes]:
Added extra bit to solution two due to feedback ADDITIONAL: Make Shadow and Moon
Dryads distinct in entry line, room line and use. A Moon wiccan can not summon
from a Wyrd Dryad and vise versa.
---[Falaeron on 7/11 @ 21:49 writes]:
I'm ok with either solution.
---[Shedrin on 7/11 @ 23:39 writes]:
So this is a bit nitpicky, and most of us are familiar with wisps shortcomings,
but can you make the problem statement a little more clear on the specifics?
Thanks.
---[Tarken on 7/14 @ 13:30 writes]:
Support either solution, but I favour solution 1 simply because its more user
friendly. Solution 2 is good but more unwieldy from a user perspective.
---[Wobou on 7/14 @ 13:46 writes]:
All the solutions look good to me. I'm torn on sol. 2, I think if we don't go
with it that dryads use case will be fairly severely limited and it'll reduce
some of the flavor of wisp. Mechanically I agree that sol. 1 is more
streamlined.
---[Veyils on 7/14 @ 23:47 writes]:
Dryads do give a benefit outside of wisp to be fair as well just to make the
point. They allow things like Wyrdsong and vines in any place so while they may
lose out on some use with some solutions they'll still be useful. I could see a
few reports on specific fae though in the future if we want to look into
changing a few outside of this.
---[Iytha on 7/18 @ 09:56 writes]:
Solution 2 seems best. Solution 3 is also a good idea.
---[Veyils on 7/18 @ 19:08 writes]:
Also on a bit of testing there is a small annoying issue of having more than one
wisp in the room. You have to order it to summon based on its mob id which is a
bit of a minor annoyance for a mob that you are essentially killing and remaking
on a constant basis. Would it be possible to also ask for a unique command line
that will make your willowisp attack/attempt to summon instead of just
attempting to order the mob highest on the room number list. Something akin to
FAEORDERWISP will order it to attempt its summon attack.
---[Aeldra on 7/27 @ 11:06 writes]:
@veyils the problem you mention goes for all guardians / wiccans in a way and is
probably something we need to address separately.
---[Ejderha on 7/30 @ 03:39 writes]:
Solution 1 makes sense to me, especially with additional power cost Veyils
recommended in comments (though not in the Sol itself). Solution 3 should be
considered for all guardians, like it works for trackers to command their bond
specifically. Solution 2 seems unnecessarily complicated, but I don't see that
it would be broken or unfair per se.
---[Falaeron on 7/30 @ 23:13 writes]:
I'd like dryads to be reduced to one chop to fell instead of the current two if
this change goes through.