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I want chuas of any kind!
But warrior would be nice, got Rest in piecemaker in account inventory waiting for a chua to be able to equip it :P
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Hey all,
 
I wanted to jump in here and reiterate what Sunshine said. I know that things have been a little quiet as of late, but let me assure that some juicy stuff is coming very soon, and I think that everyone is going to really happy about what we are going to be talking about.
 
Thanks to everyone for being patient. More than anyone, I know that it can be frustrating to wait for big WildStar news - and we want to talk about it as much as you want to hear it. ;) And I want you all to know that the WildStar team is absolutely still listening, and is working hard to continue making this game great.
 
Ok. I better stop writing before I start leaking like a sieve and lose my job.
 
Thanks all!
 
Pappy
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			At the very least, give draken more class options. I'd be on Dominion more if draken could be all the things.	
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Hey all,
 
I wanted to jump in here and reiterate what Sunshine said. I know that things have been a little quiet as of late, but let me assure that some juicy stuff is coming very soon, and I think that everyone is going to really happy about what we are going to be talking about.
 
Thanks to everyone for being patient. More than anyone, I know that it can be frustrating to wait for big WildStar news - and we want to talk about it as much as you want to hear it. ;) And I want you all to know that the WildStar team is absolutely still listening, and is working hard to continue making this game great.
 
Ok. I better stop writing before I start leaking like a sieve and lose my job.
 
Thanks all!
 
Pappy
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If the next big announcement is a stupid valentines event, people are going to lose their minds  :(
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Spoiler: it's not. ;)
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Good to hear! Believe me...lots of awesomesauce right around the corner. Thanks for hanging in there...
 
Pappy	
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			I wish I could like your post Pappy. I AM excited to see what you guys have got - it's sounding pretty juicy, and I hope you folks can get that hype train going!	
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			This isn't going to end well	
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This isn't going to end well
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			They are going to announce some random shit..​... on the PTR.	
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If it is new rune changes! or Anything that isn't a new raid, really, we don't care.   <_<  
 
edit:  A new class, maybe.  New garbage events for decor or cash shop items....GTFO
 
PS: I do love the game, i have 115+ days of playtime.  It's just that it was foudned as a hardcore game for hardcore gamers and has done a 180 to being extremely casual, leaving the initial base with nothing to do but roll one of every class.
			
				
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You said, that we gonna have some hints next week about whats coming to WS.
 
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Hey Everyone  -
 
While we can’t say much about what exactly is coming up in the not-to-distant future – we do want to kind of give you a hint or two. So, TUNE IN next week where we have a few surprises that will give you a peek into what’s coming for WildStar.
 
There’s some exciting things ahead, and we can’t wait to share them with you!
 
Team WildStar
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			Looks fun. I don't care anymore, I simply don't expect anything. At least not anything useful in the foreseeable future.	
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I truly wish for you guys to pull the game together and bring it out of this mismanagement nightmare it's been stuck in forever. It's the best MMO out there, I'm not sure you're even aware how much we love it...please, please do it for us.
 
If you need to riot to make it happen, you have my pitchfork.	
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About all the info and feedback we have atm
 
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Hey all,
 
I wanted to jump in here and reiterate what Sunshine said. I know that things have been a little quiet as of late, but let me assure that some juicy stuff is coming very soon, and I think that everyone is going to really happy about what we are going to be talking about.
 
Thanks to everyone for being patient. More than anyone, I know that it can be frustrating to wait for big WildStar news - and we want to talk about it as much as you want to hear it.  And I want you all to know that the WildStar team is absolutely still listening, and is working hard to continue making this game great.
 
Ok. I better stop writing before I start leaking like a sieve and lose my job.
 
Thanks all!
 
Pappy
 
[–]CRB_Pappylicious [score hidden] 17 minutes ago 
HEY! I am absolutely alive, and am super stoked about the exciting stuff that we are going to be talking about very soon. If you follow my Twitter account, you may have noticed that I've been traveling the world, which may or may not mean that I've been talking to certain people about certain things that are AWESOME.
Mike is still around, too...just busy like the rest of us getting ready for what's coming up. Can't wait for all of you to hear!
Pappy
 
Chad Moore ‏@Pappylicious 20 mins20 minutes ago
YO! Question for all you #WildStar maniacs! Pick a new playable race from the existing groups in the game. GO! (Thanks, @MayorDasMoose )
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If they just talk about the store again, or events linked to the store I think it's game over....they need to understand that happy content players will just use the store, being pushed that way is a big no no	
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You said, that we gonna have some hints next week about whats coming to WS.
 
 
By the sound of it... Everyone was expecting some hints on the Livestream!
 
 
 
Few hours later... This happens!
 
 
 
This some kind of joke or what? :D
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So because of "TUNE IN" you assumed Livestream? Fair enough, but we have other places where we share information - reddit, forums, twitter, facebook, the site - all is fair game.  :D
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So because of "TUNE IN" you assumed Livestream? Fair enough, but we have other places where we share information - reddit, forums, twitter, facebook, the site - all is fair game.  :D
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My reply to the first post:
 
So I was happy, I was paying. I was giving my money and my time to this game and this community because I loved it. Then it went F2P and I stood up and argued, but I was told to shut up because "It's about numbers period" was the line. Well where are your numbers now?
 
So no one wanted my money and interest. They gave me the game free, they gave me in game bonuses, I never paid again, never had to, wasn't asked to. Could have bought something off store, but have no interest in mounts, I have a mount. So again, where are your numbers now?
 
Funny . . . I was paying, I was bringing friends and others into the game, was happy being subbed when it meant supporting the game.
 
Hmm well enjoy what you've made it and learn from your mistakes. 	
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My reply to the first post:
 
So I was happy, I was paying. I was giving my money and my time to this game and this community because I loved it. Then it went F2P and I stood up and argued, but I was told to shut up because "It's about numbers period" was the line. Well where are your numbers now?
 
So no one wanted my money and interest. They gave me the game free, they gave me in game bonuses, I never paid again, never had to, wasn't asked to. Could have bought something off store, but have no interest in mounts, I have a mount. So again, where are your numbers now?
 
Funny . . . I was paying, I was bringing friends and others into the game, was happy being subbed when it meant supporting the game.
 
Hmm well enjoy what you've made it and learn from your mistakes. 
 
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			 While I maybe critical at times with carbine and the game.. the fact that they have drop 7 in silence has my attention. With the announcement of no new raid this upcoming drop.. many of us suspected this much anyways. I'm thinking that there is a big change or addition of some type aside from a new zone coming with this drop and the secrecy is more due to making sure its operational for release before its announced. Afterall this is the first time that I remembered the adamant secrecy of a drop. Usually we get some kind of hint or explanation of whats to come. Granted its timing with BnS there might be more to it than just a conspiracy theory. For all we know there might be a new feature that will change things up a bit and they don't want to hype us up only to let us down in the event its not functioning properly and they have to postpone it like they did in the past after letting us know what to expect. This I can understand why they would be doing the hush hush treatment right now. The delay of drop7 only adds to the suspense and suspitions of something good on the horizon. I just hope once drop 7 hits carbine can go back to a 3 months per drop cycle again. I will admit we have been waiting a bit to long for the drop in new content.. and events don't count in my books.	
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My reply to the first post:
 
So I was happy, I was paying. I was giving my money and my time to this game and this community because I loved it. Then it went F2P and I stood up and argued, but I was told to shut up because "It's about numbers period" was the line. Well where are your numbers now?
 
So no one wanted my money and interest. They gave me the game free, they gave me in game bonuses, I never paid again, never had to, wasn't asked to. Could have bought something off store, but have no interest in mounts, I have a mount. So again, where are your numbers now?
 
Funny . . . I was paying, I was bringing friends and others into the game, was happy being subbed when it meant supporting the game.
 
Hmm well enjoy what you've made it and learn from your mistakes. 
 
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Along the lines of what Caydiem said, but to add a bit to it. It's not that we don't want to tell you what's coming up. We do, and we will, but it's not going to happen this week, or even next. There was a great deal of planning and development that went into F2P - content was revamped, systems and items completely overhauled, world bosses re-thought, and in-game events designed. This all takes time, but we're not done, and we still have tons more to continue to do. We're not saying anything not because there's nothing, we just want to announce it at the right time.
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 I have played WS for more than a year (including pay subscription) and followed what dev says about up coming content... and at this point the game ran out of magical A's up its sleeve. The game was taken out before it should have an it has been hyped up to be a "wow killer" and we were promised that new content would come out faster than what it was coming out, and the new content that did come out wasn't all that great especially for an mmo. This game had amazing potential and I spend hundreds of hours playing but at what point can you redo the same content over and over again? The pvp goes from bad to worst and each time you think it can't become worst something like players abusing bots happens and it has been a really long time since the devs have been saying they will fix pvp yet it never happens. WS has been one mistake after another from early launch, to lies about content, to mess up with transfers, to a badly transition to ftp, to only adding cosmetic content. The numbers don't like and this game is a sinking ship with no turns were to go. What will probably happen is NCSOFT will maintain WS until BS is has a stable player base in USA and EU and then pull the plug on WS. Which is also why I believe devs stopped working on content and are trying to cash out as much as they can. WS went from a long hall game to the short hall. And any game especially an MMORPG can't expect to make money on constemics if the quality is getting worst and there is no content to keep players. I for one am sick of waiting for WS to get there act together and them promising magical fixes that never come.  If you are to look at quarterly reports from NCSOFT anyone can see how bad WS is doing.
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I just don't want to add anything that you don't know. Ppl know me as pug GA RL, I do 2-3 pug GA every week. And after 13th of january i literally feel deficit in ppl. Carbines didn't introduce anything + BnS launched = ppl just left, and this week i just watching how people leaving :( . This is pain for me, coz I believe, i have a lot of friends or at least people that know me, and people who raid with me. And see how they are leaving.. It breaks my heart x_x
 
Carbines, can you save the project Nexus, please?!	
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I just don't want to add anything that you don't know. Ppl know me as pug GA RL, I do 2-3 pug GA every week. And after 13th of january i literally feel deficit in ppl. Carbines didn't introduce anything + BnS launched = ppl just left, and this week i just watching how people leaving :( . This is pain for me, coz I believe, i have a lot of friends or at least people that know me, and people who raid with me. And see how they are leaving.. It breaks my heart x_x
 
Carbines, can you save the project Nexus, please?!
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Heh, maybe it has just a little to with the fact they are still looking to hire a studio head?
 
Rudderless ship, and all that?
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I feel like I've been saying that for a year. What they really miss is having one person with one vision leading all of the teams.
 
There has to be a reason they haven't been able to secure another studio head be it pay or just that no one wants this on their resume anymore.
 
The combat. raids, and dungeons are too good for this game to fail, they just need some player friendly love, and for the love of god some new content. Not to many games can make it over a year and having no new raids...(Not counting boss in a box)
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Yea a lot of people turned into raid loggers over the past month. I for one haven't touched Wildstar outside of raid hours. 
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Why would anybody want to willingly smear shit on their resume?
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Yea a lot of people turned into raid loggers over the past month. I for one haven't touched Wildstar outside of raid hours. 
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Tried to read as much as i could but it seams like there are two ways:
 
1st) NCSoft said big "NO, NO" to Carbine coming with news for content cause of B&S hiting live so they can get profit (totaly legit). So we have to hope for the best, when it will happen and what we`ll get.
 
2nd) NC Soft will go trough numbers decide to finaly cut the fundings tthat will make Carbine team even more smaller. Content that will come as a result will be just not good enough for people that are waiting for it and game will end up at the end of 2016.
 
Sadly, Wildstar will not be the 1st and not the last good game that will end up this way. 
As a big fan of Wildstar from the day they brought their website for the 1st time back in 2012, I hope we ll not have another Tabula Rasa and hope that Carbina have a magic pocket with all the goodies but reality is something different.
			
				
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This will make you laugh, so last night we finally had 20 (or so we thought) people signed for raid.  So we're getting ready, and it's been that long since I logged into WildStar that I actually forgot my password. Ended up locking out my account (even after a PW reset, it doesn't unlock) and was unable to log in for raid.  Somewhat thankfully we had some no-shows so it wasn't me holding the raid up.  
 
But that's where I am, I log into WS so rarely I can't remember my PW.  It's a sorry state of affairs. 
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So because of "TUNE IN" you assumed Livestream? Fair enough, but we have other places where we share information - reddit, forums, twitter, facebook, the site - all is fair game.  :D
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This will make you laugh, so last night we finally had 20 (or so we thought) people signed for raid.  So we're getting ready, and it's been that long since I logged into WildStar that I actually forgot my password. Ended up locking out my account (even after a PW reset, it doesn't unlock) and was unable to log in for raid.  Somewhat thankfully we had some no-shows so it wasn't me holding the raid up.  
 
But that's where I am, I log into WS so rarely I can't remember my PW.  It's a sorry state of affairs. 
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Yeah, but how much do you log in into other MMORPGs? The content ouside of raids (and/or serious PvP) is kinda casual in every MMO, and you can only play it for a limited time before you get bored of it. This is not a WS thing. People who play MMOs for 10+ years are not mezmerized anymore with leveling and daily quests.
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			I played WoW for 5 years first time as well. I had a break with SWTOR, GW2 and then WS. Went back to WoW last year, and I had a blast, mostly because I even raided mythic which I didn't do before, but I rally enjoyed evey part of it. But still got bored of it quite fast. I'm not an alt guy, I don't really enjoy playing the same quests over and over again, so what do you do when you explored all the zones and did almost all of the quests everywhere...? I don't even remember what I did the first time that kept me playing it 5 years. That's what I meant with being mezmerized. Sadly, it doesn't happen anymore to me after 10 years of MMO time.	
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			 Its amazing how panic struck the community has gotten over the extended delay of drop 7. Carbine took a hit on man hours prepping for f2p so go figure.. its gonna knock things off course a bit. As long as carbine gains its equilibrium after the drop and get back on course things will go back to the norm. Carbine will be releasing drop7 info before to long...	
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 Its amazing how panic struck the community has gotten over the extended delay of drop 7. Carbine took a hit on man hours prepping for f2p so go figure.. its gonna knock things off course a bit. As long as carbine gains its equilibrium after the drop and get back on course things will go back to the norm. Carbine will be releasing drop7 info before to long...
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They are only listening to what they want to listen to and covering their ears on everything else.
 
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I think reasons (at least for my friends and perhaps me) to play wow for quite much back in the days was lack of competition. Up until mid-cata we played wow through content and content draughts because there were no other good mmos out there really... where would you go?
Mid-cata and after we have had lots of games happening to the mmo market: Rift, Swtor, GW2, Tera, Planetside2, Neverwinter, The secret world, DC Universe, ESO, Final fantasy mmo, Wildstar, Archeage, Skyforge... and there's probably more. 
We also have f2p as a standard for mmos these days, you don't have to pay two subscriptions in order to play two mmos and so on. There are many mmos out there, and it's in most cases not related to a cost jumping between different mmos. This gives more flexibility to the players, and ofc many of the players are taking advantage of that.	
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 Its amazing how panic struck the community has gotten over the extended delay of drop 7. Carbine took a hit on man hours prepping for f2p so go figure.. its gonna knock things off course a bit. As long as carbine gains its equilibrium after the drop and get back on course things will go back to the norm. Carbine will be releasing drop7 info before to long...
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I wouldn't call raising valid consumer concerns as panic struck.  WildStar isn't our be all and end all, this is people trying to discern whether or not they're going to continue playing + spending money on the game. 
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almost total silence from Carbine's management about what's coming
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Yes and no. There was a point to F2P, and the point was to increase the size of the revenue stream and the playerbase back into viable territory. That required them to attract new players and do a better job of retaining them this time around.
 
And now we're four months past the F2P relaunch--a month behind their declared quarterly update schedule--with dead PvP servers, almost total silence from Carbine's management about what's coming, and without any explanation or even acknowledgement that any of this is the case.
 
If there's a recipe for improving player retention, this isn't it.
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So we're getting ready, and it's been that long since I logged into WildStar that I actually forgot my password.
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  When players are saying that the game will be shutting down soon id call that panic.. especially when they have no idea about what their talking about. That is not consumer concern that is just blowing hot air out into the open. NCsoft has already spoken about the game recently. Like i've already stated if NCsoft is going to pull the plug it wont be for a long time .. at least not until all options are exhausted.. and even then the game may change ownership before the towel is thrown. Several mmos have had different owners. 
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 You seem to forget the massive layoffs wildstar suffered in the start, and the fact that the game lost some of the most essential personal to the content. Just like any company in the world NCsoft wants to make money. You are talking about wildstar getting back to normal but even in its best of days wildstar was in a shit condition an no were near what the developers had expected or even planned the game. The game suffered to many mistakes to come back from and the worst part is the devs are not learning there lessens. Looking at the game content that came out from the start of f2p until now should be a strong indicator that the company is trying to cash out as much money as they can before they give up on carbine. At least previously carbine had the decency to lie to us or overhype the new content that was soon to be realized. Look at the last weeks when they said there will be new items on the "lady whatever" there new mount was the exact same thing but in a different color.... are you shitting me (and this is payed content). In part you are right that WS will remained open maybe even for another couple month or a year hell maybe 2... but during that time it will just be in a miserable condition or little to no new content being realized and less and less players. How bad WS has failed in F2p is an indicator to NCsoft that this game no longer has the chance to be something great so there is little to no reason to waste more resources on it. (Meaning lets focus on other games while barley updating content on this game to try and maxims our profit) *In all fairness I to once truly loved this game and I only wanted it to succeed but reality says otherwise.  
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This is a pretty serious misunderstanding of MMO development in general. ... there simply is no need for the magnitude of staff needed during development for the remainder of a games lifetime.
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Yea a lot of people turned into raid loggers over the past month. I for one haven't touched Wildstar outside of raid hours. 
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So because of "TUNE IN" you assumed Livestream? Fair enough, but we have other places where we share information - reddit, forums, twitter, facebook, the site - all is fair game.  :D
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And now it's end-of-day Friday, and all we got were a couple of seconds of blurry video teaser? Seriously?
 
By even the most generous estimate of what an 'every 3 month' release schedule looks like, Drop 7 is due day after tomorrow. It isn't on PTR yet. It hasn't even been announced yet! What the heck is going on in there?
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