119623-i-tried-but-i-failed

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     I REALLY want my friends to get into this game, and have had a hard time convincing them to play. Finally, I managed to convince one of my friends, an open-minded MMO veteran to try out Wildstar via one of my guest passes. What follows is meant as documentation and an example of what happened when a new player attempted to play Wildstar with me.
 
     At first, he seemed to really be enjoying the movement/combat. Despite my help, he seemed pretty confused in the beginning because his tutorial UI was bugged and he wasn't receiving a lot of tutorials.
 
     When he unlocked his fourth slot on his bar, it wasn't saving his choice. He COULD NOT slot a 4th ability. We tried reloading his UI, logging in and out, making forum posts, and leveling up. When he unlocked his 5th slot, it didn't work either. He got very frustrated and logged off for a day. When he logged back on, it wasn't fixed. I tried many fixes, and finally got it to work by deleting his addon save folder in his computer. He was pretty fed up at this point.
 
     Being a PvPer, he wanted to try out walatiki with me. We waited in queue for 2 hours (Entity Dominion) before he gave up. He will not be purchasing the game.
 
     I really, really wanted him to play. Despite him not liking it, I still love Wildstar more than any other MMO. Oh well. :) This was not meant as a nasty post, simply a documentation of our experience. 	
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For the LAS issue, did you try fixing the game via the client or reinstalling? Sometimes there is a fluke in the system. Happens with any game from time to time. 
 
Not sure what you're trying to gain from posting about the issue though. A majority of people would rather level than PvP while leveling because of end game. A veteran MMOer not understanding that there is never an over-abundance of players around while leveling and that sometimes things go wrong (addon save folder and such) doesn't really sound like he even game WS a chance. It sounds like 5 hours of boredom well spent.	
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			I appreciate your feedback, and I tried to persuade him, but he doesn't seem to want to give the game another shot. I wish saying "Hey, a kitty-cat on the forums says get over it and try again" would work	
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     I REALLY want my friends to get into this game, and have had a hard time convincing them to play. Finally, I managed to convince one of my friends, an open-minded MMO veteran to try out Wildstar via one of my guest passes. What follows is meant as documentation and an example of what happened when a new player attempted to play Wildstar with me.
 
     At first, he seemed to really be enjoying the movement/combat. Despite my help, he seemed pretty confused in the beginning because his tutorial UI was bugged and he wasn't receiving a lot of tutorials.
 
     When he unlocked his fourth slot on his bar, it wasn't saving his choice. He COULD NOT slot a 4th ability. We tried reloading his UI, logging in and out, making forum posts, and leveling up. When he unlocked his 5th slot, it didn't work either. He got very frustrated and logged off for a day. When he logged back on, it wasn't fixed. I tried many fixes, and finally got it to work by deleting his addon save folder in his computer. He was pretty fed up at this point.
 
     Being a PvPer, he wanted to try out walatiki with me. We waited in queue for 2 hours (Entity Dominion) before he gave up. He will not be purchasing the game.
 
     I really, really wanted him to play. Despite him not liking it, I still love Wildstar more than any other MMO. Oh well. :) This was not meant as a nasty post, simply a documentation of our experience. 
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Well thanks for your effort in trying to get more people into WS. My experience with my friend was different. My friend really enjoyed wildstar but only had time for one sit down during the 7 day free trial and unfortunately wasn't enough for him to experience anything other than the starter zones. Needless to say, hes back playing WoW
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			Least you tried bud. Not sure about the rest of the community, but it is very much appreciated.	
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I appreciate your feedback, and I tried to persuade him, but he doesn't seem to want to give the game another shot. I wish saying "Hey, a kitty-cat on the forums says get over it and try again" would work
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Kitty- WRANGLER... get it right...
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Do you like run a kitty rodeo irl or something? BEcause that shit is adorable
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			I'm more depressed you actually let him queue for PvP, anyone could tell you it wouldn't pop. As far as LAS though, maybe it was user error, maybe it was something else... who knows, I just know I've never seen it happen.To be honest though, I wouldn't try appealing to MMO PvPers currently. One thing I'll never get is why people wanna queue low level PvP when every other game including WoW teaches us low level pvp queues are a bad thing. In the case of WS, low level queues are actually fun but there's no twinking(a good thing but also a negative impact on low level queues) and nowhere near enough players actively queuing at one time to fill a low level bracket typically.	
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			Kitten Wrangler IS gold. Also, the LAS thing wasn't user error I took over and it really was broken. It's a known bug by a group of affected players, but Carbine doesn't seem to know about it idk.	
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I've tried bringing friends into this game. But they're too addicted to WoW.
The graphics are too cartoony! - WoW player.
o.o	
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I've tried bringing friends into this game. But they're too addicted to WoW.
The graphics are too cartoony! - WoW player.
o.o
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			Thanks for trying dawg 	
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     Being a PvPer, he wanted to try out walatiki with me. We waited in queue for 2 hours (Entity Dominion) before he gave up. He will not be purchasing the game.
 
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I tried to get my friends to play WildStar as well but they're either not interested, playing other MMOs (namely Final Fantasy (not sure what the current one is) or WOW), or they cannot afford the subscription. I feel left out as I'm the only one who doesn't play one of the ones they play but they just don't appeal to me the way WildStar does.
 
PvP has so many issues but the Devs will continue to do nothing if we don't keep bringing up the issues. They'll have to listen eventually if they want PvPers to stay. IMO PvP will never truly be dead until PvPers themselves stop trying to get the issues fixed.	
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			You know, i had the same problem, and I submitted a ticket. Fixed it within five minutes.	
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			I remember when <49 pvp brackets of Walatiki were what i used to do all day because they were awesome fun!	
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Back in launch i got in WS my little brother and 6-7 more RL friends, mainly from wow but also from Rift and SWTOR. I played also with my gaming community in Hazzak, counting almost 60ppl in WS out of ~150 total. I m the only one left playing. The huge majority of them are playing wow.
I m not trying anymore to get them back, at least until i can sense the game is ok to accept and hold them. Maybe Carbine will turn things around. We will see.	
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I've still got a lot of friends playing the game.  Unfortunately for me, they're all PVPers and they're on different schedules from me, so I don't see them as often.  A lot are splitting time between Wildstar and WoW due to the expansion.  However, I think they'll be back to full time soon.  They're also hard, hard, hardcore instancers, and apparently they're not as impressed with the new PVE dungeons in WoD.
 
There are less of them playing than there were around headstart, though.  That's just because a lot have left video games entirely.  My cousin, who was a total junkie for MMORPGs, goes trail biking almost every day now.
 
Quitter.	
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I've still got a lot of friends playing the game.  Unfortunately for me, they're all PVPers and they're on different schedules from me, so I don't see them as often.  A lot are splitting time between Wildstar and WoW due to the expansion.  However, I think they'll be back to full time soon.  They're also hard, hard, hardcore instancers, and apparently they're not as impressed with the new PVE dungeons in WoD.
 
There are less of them playing than there were around headstart, though.  That's just because a lot have left video games entirely.  My cousin, who was a total junkie for MMORPGs, goes trail biking almost every day now.
 
Quitter.
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			After ArcheAge failed hard my friend and I gave WS another try and really enjoying it so far, even with the lack of players and PvP at the lower levels. There is still a ton of stuff to do and the housing is fun to mess around with. I am trying to bring some more of my guild members over but no luck so far. 1 tried it and left, too cartoony for him, another may try it later this week but we shall see. 	
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Tbh WS is my last try in mmo's. I had high hopes for something different and better from any other mmo i played the last 15 years. I still have hopes that Carbine will make WS what it was meant to be in the first place.
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MMORPGs are long-haul projects.  I actually really enjoy Wildstar right now, so I can only imagine what it will be like if it continues to be developed for a year or two under its current model.  Certainly, the fundamentals of combat are the strongest anywhere, which gives me high hopes it will succeed.  They can reorient the loot system relatively easily, but it's harder to rewrite the deeper systems.  The dungeons are fun and challenging, the queues are a little restrictive.  Hell, there are still PVPers around making it work because of the tremendous upside.  It might not even take that much work to do.  A tweak to how PVP queues set up BGs, the upcoming changes to Warplots, that treatise I wrote earlier about PVP/PVE idiosyncrasy, they could get the ball rolling if they have time.  It doesn't look like a two-year project to get PVP to work.
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			I ran into that las bug you mentioned in the op. It is beyond ridiculous on my main I can just requip my gadget which fixes it. On my alt or new players to the game they will have no idea unless they go out of their way to find the fix for it. The only way I can fix it on my alt which doesn't have a gadget is disabling the addon actionbarframe(this is a carbine addon) and while it is disabled you can change spells and add amps. Once you re-enable it you can not change your las you have to go through this process every time. I've tried disabling all my custom addons not that I use many and logging out switching characters. Neither of those helped. This is definitely driving away a portion of the new players a long with other bugs and the already low population 	
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I ran into that las bug you mentioned in the op. It is beyond ridiculous on my main I can just requip my gadget which fixes it. On my alt or new players to the game they will have no idea unless they go out of their way to find the fix for it. The only way I can fix it on my alt which doesn't have a gadget is disabling the addon actionbarframe(this is a carbine addon) and while it is disabled you can change spells and add amps. Once you re-enable it you can not change your las you have to go through this process every time. I've tried disabling all my custom addons not that I use many and logging out switching characters. Neither of those helped. This is definitely driving away a portion of the new players a long with other bugs and the already low population 
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			Actually, I had a friend try the game, run into this bug on two chatacters. Quit before the trial was up.	
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You're absolutely correct. Bugs don't exist in any other game. Especially bugs with several fixes.
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You're absolutely correct. Bugs don't exist in any other game. Especially bugs with several fixes.
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