133072-free-to-play-right

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			Here it is, i was wondering how people would complain about the service, because i couldn't, but here it is, *slow clap*.	
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So sadly I will not be continuing to download today, I wish you the best of luck in the future and those who sub to you. 
 
 
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	Edited September 29, 2015 by Rose292	
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The entire game is open, free, to players. Signature players get advantages yes, but F2P players are NOT RESTRICTED FROM END GAME CONTENT! You are free to access them. That is what they were advertising.
 
Edit: This your first F2P MMO? Because this is usually how it goes anyways. At least with Wildstar, you won't need to purchase expansions. You're nitpicking at things that don't really make that much of a difference.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by MadDragon666	
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			The limits are pretty much same as any other F2P mmo out there that used to have sub. Nothing new here. Still totally playable and you can enjoy content fully.	
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So,
 
 
 
you are complaining about a system you have not even tried?
 
 
 
 
okay.....	
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You CAN use those features you listed. You're just limited to what you can do with them.
 
Regarding guilds / circles / warparties: You can't create, but you CAN join.	
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			They limit how much you can buy/sell make guilds etc. to limit trolls and bots. just play the game and youll get most of the sub bonuses	
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Okay, i'm reading your post with an open mind. But going through the signature benefits it doesnt tell me much. You do realize they can't give you EVERYTHING for free right? That's not a sound business model, because that's what this still is, a business. They provide the full game, raids, dungeons etc, if you want benefits regarding ingame currency, gathering and challenge points you can get signature and in the mean time support Carbine. It's nowhere near mandatory to be able to "fully play the game". I played this game way back when it was behind a paywall, not once did i create a circle or anything like it, also those are not private, you can and should be able to join whichever you want just by asking in respective capitals.
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			Okay, i'm reading your post with an open mind. But going through the signature benefits it doesnt tell me much. You do realize they can't give you EVERYTHING for free right? That's not a sound business model, because that's what this still is, a business. They provide the full game, raids, dungeons etc, if you want benefits regarding ingame currency, gathering and challenge points you can get signature and in the mean time support Carbine. It's nowhere near mandatory to be able to "fully play the game". I played this game way back when it was behind a paywall, not once did i create a circle or anything like it, also those are not private, you can and should be able to join whichever you want just by asking in respective capitals.	
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			Please do your research before complaining. The game is totally free to play with no restrictions aside from ones targeted at potential botters. There is a subscription service as with most MMOs that went from subscription model to F2P model, but wildstar has taken a different route than most. Where some games like SWTOR limits their f2p player base in order to get them to sub in order to experience the true nature of the game, wildstar's sub service is just a convenience booster basically. Also I recommend trying the dang game out before you just hop on raging	
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			With the servers having been down all night, what else are trolls supposed to do?	
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Please do your research before complaining. The game is totally free to play with no restrictions aside from ones targeted at potential botters. There is a subscription service as with most MMOs that went from subscription model to F2P model, but wildstar has taken a different route than most. Where some games like SWTOR limits their f2p player base in order to get them to sub in order to experience the true nature of the game, wildstar's sub service is just a convenience booster basically. Also I recommend trying the dang game out before you just hop on raging
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			why isn't there a a dislike button, why can you only like a post :/	
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I, for one, am just crushed at this news. 
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You simply can't create Guilds, Circles, War-Partys and so on.. Think of players who just play for some weeks or so and leave, because they don't like the game or whatnot, if they create guilds and stuff, all the names are blocked for all others. That's why.
 
3 active buy and sell orders PER CHARACTER is also more then enough. I wouldnt even use them all.. most of the time you got a few items running. In Wildstar you got 2 different auction houses. One for gear and one for every other stuff. Thats a total of 6 per character. Btw. if you bought the box, you can have 12 chars.
 
All other stuff is no limitation at all, you just get bonuses if you're subcribed. Basically you get the same experience as it was before F2P.
 
And don't forget that you can buy CREDD ingame and pay the game with that.
 
 
Restricted is Star Wars or Age of Conan, you can't even play every class or race if you don't buy them. Not talking about end-game content..
 
 
Wildstar's F2P model is absolutely fine.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by CRZLY	
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			So ... after unknownplayer stopped downloading the installer and showed us his mighty expirence of negative playtime and slammed the door while still being outside ... can we lock this? ^^
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Krapfenmann	
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So,
 
 
 
you are complaining about a system you have not even tried?
 
 
 
 
okay.....
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You simply can't create Guilds, Circles, War-Partys and so on.. Think of players who just play for some weeks or so and leave, because they don't like the game or whatnot, if they create guilds and stuff, all the names are blocked for all others. That's why.
 
3 active buy and sell orders PER CHARACTER is also more then enough. I wouldnt even use them all.. most of the time you got a few items running. In Wildstar you got 2 different auction houses. One for gear and one for every other stuff. Thats a total of 6 per character. Btw. if you bought the box, you can have 12 chars.
 
All other stuff is no limitation at all, you just get bonuses if you're subcribed. Basically you get the same experience as it was before F2P.
 
And don't forget that you can buy CREDD ingame and pay the game with that.
 
 
Restricted is Star Wars or Age of Conan, you can't even play every class or race if you don't buy them.
 
 
Wildstar's F2P model is absolutely fine.
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			Very harsh OP.  I watched the launch stream and money is not why they did this.  They're very enthusiastic and excited about this game, and you could tell.  They want as many people as possible to play this.  Yes developers need some form of income to improve things, but they just want to put something out there that people can enjoy  To say there's greedy individuals in the team is out of line
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Threnden75	
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			Got to love that "If them features were not included in the perks I would have subscribed anyway" why not sub the game before F2P went live then?	
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Totally off-topic, but . . . 
 
*Tackles Olivar*
 
You are still around! I remember your name from when I played, since launch. Stopped playing in March about this year and now I am back. 
 
You are becoming part of the furniture eh? ;)
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You make it sound like all of the content is locked behind a pay wall, as if you can't enter raids or dungeons at all unless you pay. Everything in this game you gain at a normal rate (exp, currency, ect), but only by paying do you get increased percentage in the aquisition of said content. Yes, limited to three active auctions and such does "suck", but it is still completely manageable. 
 
This had been the trend in all F2P games since they started sprouting up, and anybody who hears the term 'F2P' know what they are getting into. 
 
Always remember that in order to make a good thing, money is required to keep good things going, and it is the general rule of the world, and Nexus is no different. :D	
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Got to love that "If them features were not included in the perks I would have subscribed anyway" why not sub the game before F2P went live then?
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Got to love that "If them features were not included in the perks I would have subscribed anyway" why not sub the game before F2P went live then?
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			Wow the guy didn't even get past the launcher, cya :)	
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Chua is Forum
Forum is Chua
 
But yeah, been playing since day 1 and never quit :)
Right now trying to recruit some poor souls to my guild again :D
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Totally off-topic, but . . . 
 
*Tackles Olivar*
 
You are still around! I remember your name from when I played, since launch. Stopped playing in March about this year and now I am back. 
 
You are becoming part of the furniture eh? ;)
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It's good to see a familiar face still around. Getting a lot of my new friends I made on WoW over the course of Draenor to come to Nexus, four of them are installing as we speak. 
It's good to be home. 
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			You can permanently unlock a lot of the signature perks with Cosmic Points, which are granted when buying items from the cash shop with Ncoin or when redeeming CREDD (item you can buy with in-game gold that gives you a signature status for 30 days). You can view Cosmic Point unlocks in the cash shop, there should be a button at the top to open the Cosmic point meter.	
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After reading this post as well as reading the details of the sub/f2p model i admit i was taken back by the same exact details the OP was.
 
However i did notice you could join but not lead/create these features which i believe is a very good means of limiting non sub players from creating any random junk guild/warpart/arena team etc
 
i also really do not mind  a 15$ sub for these perks if i wish to be the leader or creator of these things.
 
Nor do i mind a 15$ sub for some pretty freaken amazing perks
 
No other game gives you that much perks for a 15$ sub, so yea, im pretty ok with that.	
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Always good to see people return to the game :)
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			to be honest if you got to end game if you saw those things has hindering your game play then sub. I don't see the big deal... lol some peoples children i swear	
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I will follow you across all threads until you put those damn pants on.
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			OP is way out of line with his thinking!  WS F2P is nearly on par with RIFT's, which is consider the best F2P game model.  OP, you can't look any of us in the eye, and tell us that WS F2P model is bad when compare to 99% of all other F2P games.  Anyways, some peeps are just upset with the down time, which honestly doesn't come as a shock, because players have been upset with downtime since 1999 (the year I started playing mmorpg's).  It will never change!  Good day everyone. :)	
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I think the only thing I dislike is that having bought the game prior to f2p is that it gives you no perks, like instead of 3 slots why not give us 10 to sell with? let us create a circle but not guilds, and what ever other small things.
 
If one game has done it the best, then it's Tera, they made a F2P, Veteran (those that bought the game before f2p), and a subscriber benefits, and obviously the subscriber benefits were the best, it just feels like we get nothing different than the average F2P member even though we purchased and subbed in the past. 
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Crashar	
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			Trolls will be Trolls, already seeing the numerous "Fail Launch", ""Pay to Enjoy" etc, popping up on the forums. There will be problems on any launch for any game. Unfortunately we have to deal with the trolls on the forums :(	
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I think the only thing I dislike is that having bought the game prior to f2p is that it gives you no perks, like instead of 3 slots why not give us 10 to sell with? let us create a circle but not guilds, and what ever other small things.
 
If one game has done it the best, then it's Tera, they made a F2P, Veteran (those that bought the game before f2p), and a subscriber benefits, and obviously the subscriber benefits were the best, it just feels like we get nothing different than the average F2P member even though we purchased and subbed in the past. 
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			well my only thing was. Last night was seeing the rune thing where adding a slot to your gear you had to pay for which someone cleared up for me. I see nothing wrong with the f2p or heck even the launch  to be honest. You can expect to have hick ups.	
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 :lol:
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I think the only thing I dislike is that having bought the game prior to f2p is that it gives you no perks, like instead of 3 slots why not give us 10 to sell with? let us create a circle but not guilds, and what ever other small things.
 
If one game has done it the best, then it's Tera, they made a F2P, Veteran (those that bought the game before f2p), and a subscriber benefits, and obviously the subscriber benefits were the best, it just feels like we get nothing different than the average F2P member even though we purchased and subbed in the past. 
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