124211-what-to-do-tales-of-a-new-50

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Well this is my second post around this issue but I turned 50 reccently and had some tales to share...
 
First off I really like this game.  I have mentioned that in previous posts.  I like the game-play, limited action set, directional targeting, and more.  I also like that there is stuff like dyes and housing, although I personally am more pleased with the things effecting game-play.
 
Also ... overall the community has been really friendly.  I have met and friended a few players.
 
I do however have a growing concern.  It stareted while leveling and now that I'm 50 I can put a point on it: There are hardly any new players and the community does not want any.  That's it really.  While leveling I would be out questing, and on a day off or a late night have my character logged in for several hours.  I would que for a dungeon upon logging in, then go out questing.  Take a break, have lunch or dinner while leaving my character logged in, come back, quest some more.  I tried queing as a healer (main spec) and DPS.  Verry often I would log without getting into a dungeon and when checking the time in que it would say: 350mins, 320mins, 280mins, etc.  You get my point.  After level 30 I was not able to get into a single dungeon.  There are hardly any new players to group with for dungeons.
 
This leads to another problem.  I have hardly done any dungeons and am now 50.  I followed some advice from another post and got my gear to an acceptable level for dungeons.  I que up and ..... only about 20 mins!  Awesome-sauce. We get the first or second boss down and then wipe on the third.  Often because of me dying, but only because I have not seen any of these fights before.  After one, two, or on a rare case the third attempt everything is fine.  But this opportunity to learn only happened once at level 20 because ... one wipe and the tank drops and the DPS vote to disband.  It's gold or bust and screw the new guy.  Now you might be thinking ... maybe he's just really bad!  But here's the thing.  I took some advice from another reply to a post and started telling the group right away that it was my first time in this particular dungeon.  What happens you ask?  The tank instantly drops or d/c's and the DPS vote to disband.  No one wants new players.
 
 	
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It varies, I think you are actually having a serious luck of the draw issue. Most groups I find are usually patient and help people out regularly, and are willing to explain.
 
That, however, is sadly not true for all players as it is for all MMOs.
 
I would recommend finding a guild (I am unsure of what server/faction you are on) as most guilds are VERY happy to receive new players. The Final Frontier (Entity/Exiles) gets about 2-4 new players per day, and we're always welcoming to more. Pugs, unfortunately, will always offer a lesser experience.
 
If a guild is not something you'd like to pursue, maybe asking in your capital city's zone chat for a group of people to dungeon with offers a better experience as everyone knows what they're going in for and what to expect, maybe make a circle to keep in touch with folks you've enjoyed playing with/were more patient than others in groups.	
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You need a guild.
 
Also do you have EntiyLFM chat activated? There's people there all the time doing dungeons. (Assuming of course that you are on Entity).	
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			The dungeons in Wildstar can be very rough with a pug group, especially while leveling when you probably don't have the best gear. I think because of that, a lot of people just avoid them or queue with guildies/friends. When you do them with people you know it makes them go so much smoother so I would take Mental Surge's advice and join a guild (that runs group content) or find the LFM channel on your faction/server. I think the EU servers have the same thing going on.	
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I know it sounds a little counter intuitive to say join a guild because in most games you can use the group finder and get consistent groups that don' mind a few wipes or helping someone out but in Wildstar a lot of groups disband after a few wipes. If you aren't sure yet if you want to raid or even are just looking for some people to group with their are plenty of casual or semi casual guilds that run a lot of dungeons out there. This way you can meet some folks get in mumble or what not and they can explain some of the fights. 
 
Also check this bad boy out http://www.reddit.com/r/WildStar/comments/2b9rkn/learn_all_veteran_dungeons_a_collaboration_of/
 
I know watching is not doing but it helped me out a lot to have a visual before going in. I've been on since launch and can say that I have only run some dungeons five times but have run others hundreds. It's just a weird mix of what folks actually want to do. 	
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To be honest, the groupfinder in every game is a cesspool at times. That's simply the consequence of going with random people. Even in games with far easier dungeons than WS, where it should be easy to carry people, I've seen players quit over the most insignificant stuff. That's simply what the group finder is. A gamble. Sometimes you get a DS geared group that doesn't give a damn about you, because they can easily 4 man the dungeons, sometimes you get new players and might not even finish the dungeon and others you get the rotten apples you don't want to meet.
 
Unfortunately as the game gets older and players get more experienced with the content their expectations rise and thus new players are tolerated less and less. Once again, this isn't something unique to WS, it happens in every game. As people in this thread already have said, join a guild and/or the LFM channel on your server to counteract this. There are plenty of guilds that don't mind teaching new players the ropes and don't mind if they wipe a few times in a dungeon.
 
In the end, trying to enter the endgame scene in an already established game requires some effort from the new player to find people that are willing to teach them. By no means is it that much effort, however, when you simply try to queue with randoms and hope for the best, you will have bad experiences at times.	
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Well this is my second post around this issue but I turned 50 reccently and had some tales to share...
 
First off I really like this game.  I have mentioned that in previous posts.  I like the game-play, limited action set, directional targeting, and more.  I also like that there is stuff like dyes and housing, although I personally am more pleased with the things effecting game-play.
 
Also ... overall the community has been really friendly.  I have met and friended a few players.
 
I do however have a growing concern.  It stareted while leveling and now that I'm 50 I can put a point on it: There are hardly any new players and the community does not want any.  That's it really.  While leveling I would be out questing, and on a day off or a late night have my character logged in for several hours.  I would que for a dungeon upon logging in, then go out questing.  Take a break, have lunch or dinner while leaving my character logged in, come back, quest some more.  I tried queing as a healer (main spec) and DPS.  Verry often I would log without getting into a dungeon and when checking the time in que it would say: 350mins, 320mins, 280mins, etc.  You get my point.  After level 30 I was not able to get into a single dungeon.  There are hardly any new players to group with for dungeons.
 
This leads to another problem.  I have hardly done any dungeons and am now 50.  I followed some advice from another post and got my gear to an acceptable level for dungeons.  I que up and ..... only about 20 mins!  Awesome-sauce. We get the first or second boss down and then wipe on the third.  Often because of me dying, but only because I have not seen any of these fights before.  After one, two, or on a rare case the third attempt everything is fine.  But this opportunity to learn only happened once at level 20 because ... one wipe and the tank drops and the DPS vote to disband.  It's gold or bust and screw the new guy.  Now you might be thinking ... maybe he's just really bad!  But here's the thing.  I took some advice from another reply to a post and started telling the group right away that it was my first time in this particular dungeon.  What happens you ask?  The tank instantly drops or d/c's and the DPS vote to disband.  No one wants new players.
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