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I love this game to pieces, and I've played non stop since launch. However I've made the decision to leave today, and here's why:
 
1. No new (meaningful) content since launch. Thousands of dungeon runs/pvp matches and hundreds of GA/DSs later, and I just can't make myself do the same content I've been doing since launch anymore.
2. Current content is barely maintained in a working order. Carbine, you suck at dealing with bugs/problems. Flat out. Serious bugs/issues are let go for months and months (how long has limbo been totally broken now?). The patch and fix rate is just pathetic.
3. No faith in the studio/future of the game. It took a long time to break down my confidence in the dev teams ability to do, well- anything correctly. But I'm a masochist/optimist so I pushed through and gave the benefit of the doubt over and over and over. But its become stunningly clear that Carbine has no clue what they're doing, and I don't expect that will change.
 
You took an amazing core game and let it fall to shambles with neglect and mismanagement. Despite that, Wildstar has been the source of many great memories and a few thousand hours of fun for me. I'm not really upset anymore, just sad.
 
 
Best of luck to everyone.  :)
			
				
	Edited January 9, 2016 by CunningLinguist	
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I love this game to pieces, and I've played non stop since launch. However I've made the decision to leave today, and here's why:
 
1. No new (meaningful) content since launch. Thousands of dungeon runs/pvp matches and hundreds of GA/DSs later, and I just can't make myself do the same content I've been doing since launch anymore.
2. Current content is barely maintained in a working order. Carbine, you suck at dealing with bugs/problems. Flat out. Serious bugs/issues are let go for months and months (how long has limbo been totally broken now?). The patch and fix rate is just pathetic.
3. No faith in the studio/future of the game. It took a long time to break down my confidence in the dev teams ability to do, well- anything correctly. But I'm a masochist/optimist so I pushed through and gave the benefit of the doubt over and over and over. But its become stunningly clear that Carbine has no clue what they're doing, and I don't expect that will change.
 
You took an amazing core game and let it fall to shambles with neglect and mismanagement. Despite that, Wildstar has been the source of many great memories and a few thousand hours of fun for me. I'm not really upset anymore, just sad.
 
 
Best of luck to everyone.  :)
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I love this game to pieces, and I've played non stop since launch. However I've made the decision to leave today, and here's why:
 
1. No new (meaningful) content since launch. Thousands of dungeon runs/pvp matches and hundreds of GA/DSs later, and I just can't make myself do the same content I've been doing since launch anymore.
2. Current content is barely maintained in a working order. Carbine, you suck at dealing with bugs/problems. Flat out. Serious bugs/issues are let go for months and months (how long has limbo been totally broken now?). The patch and fix rate is just pathetic.
3. No faith in the studio/future of the game. It took a long time to break down my confidence in the dev teams ability to do, well- anything correctly. But I'm a masochist/optimist so I pushed through and gave the benefit of the doubt over and over and over. But its become stunningly clear that Carbine has no clue what they're doing, and I don't expect that will change.
 
You took an amazing core game and let it fall to shambles with neglect and mismanagement. Despite that, Wildstar has been the source of many great memories and a few thousand hours of fun for me. I'm not really upset anymore, just sad.
 
 
Best of luck to everyone.  :)
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Oh look another person who feels the need to belittle another person's announcement of their departure from an mmo. Surely they are entitled to express their own opinions on the matter, regardless of whether others have done so? And so too, you have had your say. This is mine.
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Mental Surge, maybe some does care. maybe it lets the devs know what they need to improve upon, I say that if you don't like those types of threads (and the title was a dead giveaway what it was going to be about) then you really ought to avoid clicking on them and getting yourself worked up and agitated over.
 
As for* the OP, best of luck to you in your future adventures wherever they may be. Perhaps the next drop will bring you back.
			
				
	Edited January 9, 2016 by Nixxy	
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So you are complaining about me complaining about someone else repeating the same shit that we have seen a million times? Umm congratulations?
 
I have a genuine question: Why do people HAVE to announce when they are leaving an ammo? Do they think people care? And dont give me the rationale that they are doing it to expose the flaws that made them leave. There are plenty of other ways to do that without making another damn 'I'm quitting an mmo' thread. Hell, there's already a perfect thread for that on the front page. Has it ever occurred to people that making threads like this actually hurts the game more? When people are reading the forums and contemplating trying the game, and they see this for the 50th time, what kind of impression are they going to get? Again, if you have issues with the game then discuss them. There's nothing wrong with that.
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Mental Surge, maybe some does care. maybe it lets the devs know what they need to improve upon, I say that if you don't like those types of threads (and the title was a dead giveaway what it was going to be about) then you really ought to avoid clicking on them and getting yourself worked up and agitated over.
 
As for* the OP, best of luck to you in your future adventures wherever they may be. Perhaps the next drop will bring you back.
 
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Once again, there's literally a thread on the front page for that, so WHY NOT DISCUSS IT THERE? Or make a thread discussing it without announcing to everyone that you are leaving? Again, it's not just about getting annoyed over copy/paste threads, it's about giving the a poor impression to new players.
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Since we're now discussing the merit of "I quit" threads I'll just say this:
There's "I quit" threads and then there's "I quit" threads.
If all you're going to say is "I quit" with the optional "this game sucks!" you may as well not bother to post, all it'll do is stir up some minor drama - if it does anything at all.
If you're going to say "I quit and here's some reasonable feedback why I'm quitting" then there's merit in leaving the developers with that little bit of feedback, it may just be something they've noticed being brought up by other people and warrant having a look at - even if the thread ends up deleted after any useful feedback from it has been gathered. P2P MMOs usually get that data through a short survey you can fill out when cancelling your subscription, F2P games usually don't have an "I quit" button.
 
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What I mean is this.
"I'ma quit cuz dis game sux" -- utterly useless waste of letters.
"I quit because (the culmination of) these issues I'll explain in a somewhat reasonable fashion make me quit" -- could be useful feedback if it reaches the right people.
			
				
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I'm truly sorry for the obviously intense emotional agony I've caused you. As for new players seeing it, what's wrong with that? You don't delete/shout down poor reviews on amazon do you? Feedback from the community is valuable to new players be it good or bad. It's up to them if they want to invest/play a game that has serious problems. Certainly poor form to suppress anything negative in hopes of roping in fresh meat.
 
 
Of course, shoot a mail to "Notgoingtohappenontheoffchance Imightcomeback".
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Hey CunningLinguist I'm sorry to see you go. You were a pleasure to talk with on the forums and discuss both the good and bad of Wildstar. It's always sad to reach the point when a game is no longer as fun for you as you'd like, but things change and we move on.
 
Thanks for leaving feedback and I hope that whatever you decide to play next you are happy and enjoying yourself there. *hug*	
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I am not saying we should 'remove all negative reviews'. If people keep making threads like this, many people probably won't
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Perhaps another way of stating this would be appropriate:
 
It's fine that you're leaving. However, starting that out with "I quit" basically amounts to click bait. Also, you're one voice out of maybe...ten percent of the playerbase, tops. If you're aiming to provide meaningful feedback, it's a lot like tossing a BB at a charging rhino to get its attention.
 
What's more, there's a thread on page 1 saying the same thing. It's a lot like saying "hey, my feedback is SOOOO important that I have to create a new page to get the devs'/CM's attention!!" Now, granted, that may not be your intent, but that's how it comes across and why people tend to get peeved about it.
 
Imagine you're a new player. You see ten threads saying "I quit!!" and you're probably thinking "well, this game is going to Hades in a handbasket, let me go check out something else!!"
 
People understand that players are going to come and go, all the time. There isn't much sense in creating a new thread when the same purpose can be accomplished in posting to the existing one---since, likely, the mods are going to merge it anyway.
			
				
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Not defending him, but you can't say stuff like ' I'm not saying we should remove negative reviews, but do it anyway' O.o lol.
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.... what? Okay, not going to lie, I am starting to get very irritated.
 
For the last damn time.
 
I am NOT SAYING we need to get rid of all negative reviews. I am saying that there is a better way to do it. First off, announcing that you are leaving is pointless and more than likely will hurt the game more than anything. I also said that THERE IS ANOTHER THREAD LITERALLY DEDICATED TO THIS DISCUSSION ON THE FRONT PAGE, SO THIS THREAD IS KIND OF POINTLESS UNLESS YOU WANT TO DISCOURAGE OTHER PEOPLE FROM TRYING THE GAME.
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.... what? Okay, not going to lie, I am starting to get very irritated.
 
For the last damn time.
 
I am NOT SAYING we need to get rid of all negative reviews. I am saying that there is a better way to do it. First off, announcing that you are leaving is pointless and more than likely will hurt the game more than anything. I also said that THERE IS ANOTHER THREAD LITERALLY DEDICATED TO THIS DISCUSSION ON THE FRONT PAGE, SO THIS THREAD IS KIND OF POINTLESS UNLESS YOU WANT TO DISCOURAGE OTHER PEOPLE FROM TRYING THE GAME.
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Perhaps another way of stating this would be appropriate:
 
It's fine that you're leaving. However, starting that out with "I quit" basically amounts to click bait. Also, you're one voice out of maybe...ten percent of the playerbase, tops. If you're aiming to provide meaningful feedback, it's a lot like tossing a BB at a charging rhino to get its attention.
 
What's more, there's a thread on page 1 saying the same thing. It's a lot like saying "hey, my feedback is SOOOO important that I have to create a new page to get the devs'/CM's attention!!" Now, granted, that may not be your intent, but that's how it comes across and why people tend to get peeved about it.
 
Imagine you're a new player. You see ten threads saying "I quit!!" and you're probably thinking "well, this game is going to Hades in a handbasket, let me go check out something else!!"
 
People understand that players are going to come and go, all the time. There isn't much sense in creating a new thread when the same purpose can be accomplished in posting to the existing one---since, likely, the mods are going to merge it anyway.
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First of all I apologize for further derailing the topic.
 
So then, how about we ("we" as in the forum team) get an official "goodbye" thread going where people can leave their feedback and announce their departure from the game should they so choose?
That'd allow the mods to crack down and bury any stray "I quit" threads while still providing the people who turn away from the game with an easy to find place to leave feedback and say their goodbyes.
 
I do think it's important to let people speak their part for reasons I've already explained but I don't see anything wrong with channeling it into a dedicated thread - that might actually make it easier for the devs to keep tabs on all the feedback.	
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First of all I apologize for further derailing the topic.
 
So then, how about we ("we" as in the forum team) get an official "goodbye" thread going where people can leave their feedback and announce their departure from the game should they so choose?
That'd allow the mods to crack down and bury any stray "I quit" threads while still providing the people who turn away from the game with an easy to find place to leave feedback and say their goodbyes.
 
I do think it's important to let people speak their part for reasons I've already explained but I don't see anything wrong with channeling it into a dedicated thread - that might actually make it easier for the devs to keep tabs on all the feedback.
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Look I know there's another thread on the frontpage, or at least I think you're referring to the four page thread amounting to much of the same the OP said, my point was making an official one so they can amend the forum rules with "post your feedback and announcements of leaving the game there and only there''
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Look I know there's another thread on the frontpage, or at least I think you're referring to the four page thread amounting to much of the same the OP said, my point was making an official one so they can amend the forum rules with "post your feedback and announcements of leaving the game there and only there". Or I may be completely missing what other thread you mean which would bring me to the other point: make the thing easy to find.
They can turn the other thread into the official venue for all I care so long as there is the one official thread.	
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I don't care about those other points you made: 'There's another thread bla bla', because I agree with you XD
 
(Kinda agree. Depends, if that post you're talking about is a generic 'talk here about your concerns before quitting' then I agree, if it's just another person blathering about his quitting experience then it's not really a post dedicated for everyone to discuss, is it? It will just be a trash can)
 
What I'm saying is that bad reviews can affect the game as you said, but so do positive reviews, right?! The existence of bad reviews on the front page doesn't hurt the game if there's a counterpart...or are you saying that there aren't positive feedbacks?! If this is the case then you're right...negative reviews will hurt everyone, but at this point it's the game's fault in the first place xD
 
Bad review and good review are good to stay, because:
->I am saying that people should give the game a chance and decide for themselves<- 
**wink wink**
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All I'm gonna say is the entire argument of "I quit" threads is why some forums prohibit them. Some are gonna straight up come out and say "who the heck cares!!" and others are going to post the obligatory "can I haz ur stuffs?"
 
In the end, whatever useful feedback provided is lost in the arguing.	
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I love this game to pieces, and I've played non stop since launch. However I've made the decision to leave today, and here's why:
 
1. No new (meaningful) content since launch. Thousands of dungeon runs/pvp matches and hundreds of GA/DSs later, and I just can't make myself do the same content I've been doing since launch anymore.
2. Current content is barely maintained in a working order. Carbine, you suck at dealing with bugs/problems. Flat out. Serious bugs/issues are let go for months and months (how long has limbo been totally broken now?). The patch and fix rate is just pathetic.
3. No faith in the studio/future of the game. It took a long time to break down my confidence in the dev teams ability to do, well- anything correctly. But I'm a masochist/optimist so I pushed through and gave the benefit of the doubt over and over and over. But its become stunningly clear that Carbine has no clue what they're doing, and I don't expect that will change.
 
You took an amazing core game and let it fall to shambles with neglect and mismanagement. Despite that, Wildstar has been the source of many great memories and a few thousand hours of fun for me. I'm not really upset anymore, just sad.
 
 
Best of luck to everyone.  :)
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			The funny thing is that you can do all that content for free as well. I really don't know how people can be so mad at the content in the game if it's FREE.
			
				
	Edited January 9, 2016 by Mental Surge	
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The funny thing is that you can do all that content for free as well. I really don't know how people can be so mad at the content in the game if it's FREE.
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You can read the label on a box of Mac and Cheese for free too. Over and over again. Most people wouldn't find that a lot of fun though.
 
The OP has been a part of the Wildstar community for a long time and it's obvious he's invested a lot in this game. Not just money, but time and emotion. I'm sure he's made a lot of friends. When someone has invested a lot of themselves in something it can be painful to have to let that all go. Letting the community know you're leaving and why can be cathartic. Some people just need that closure. And even though I will never become attached to this game or play it seriously I can understand that looking at it from the OP's perspective.
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			Since the game is F2P, why do people feel they have to "leave"? Why not just leave the game's brutal 15 GBs on the harddrive and log on when they feel like it? E.g. I only log on to raid nowadays, because there is nothing else for me to do, but I have fun during raids with my guildies. You can do that with an FPS or TPS game, why not WS? (Although I get that you can raid yourself to boredom as well, I'm talking in general, not specifically about OP. WoW is still on my harddrive even though I got bored with it and cancelled the subscription, but I plan to check back when the new expansion comes out, because there are friends there and it's fun to raid with them.)
			
				
	Edited January 9, 2016 by Strayhand	
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			Hes not wrong though. The end game has become stale and boring for those who have finished it.Clearing the same raid over and over that takes 3-4 hours and then most guilds end up alt raiding so you end up doing that content twice a week. Doing a fight as a melee and then as a range "DOESNT" change anything expect having 3 seconds to move out of the way as range compared to 1 second for melee. If you started as range then moved to melee then yea it might be different for you but in reverse lol nope shits boring. The only fight your game play really changes is for tanks on W/F and thats about it. Everything else is tank and spank or heal this shit until you dont need to heal no more.Some moved to hardmentors but a lot f guilds just wont do it because lel dem runes bruh. The clear time of a 2nd DS raid is faster then having people stay alive to get gloves off of HM. Then the pink being a much bigger upgrade tends to make people do in that direction. What keeps most end game players in any MMO isn't the actual game itself it's the community they are in and you can take this anyway you want it but if this announcement coming up doesn't provide some hard details on end game content for the next patch then more people will give up and leave because communities dont last very long when members of it get bored and stop logging in so then the rest of the community tends to die off. The new raid isn't on the PTR with the usual 6 weeks of testing and then 4 weeks for bug fixes then more testing the new raid is looking to be coming out 2 years after release. Like are you *cupcake*ing kidding me, it is amazing a people have stuck around for so long without a new tier. F2P had raiders go back and clear the content to get back BiS gear and runes that they had previous to the patch so that gave carbine some time to get shit done with the new raid but it seems like its not even close to being ready.So what will we get next patch? A Dungeon or an Adventure or maybe a new shiphand because we love those OR OR OR MAYBE more shit daily zones because thats "content" as well yea
			
				
	Edited January 9, 2016 by Ufalicious	
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Bye Cunning.
Sad to see you go.
Best of luck	
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			Bye CL, hope you'll have fun elsewhere.	
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			but but, they updating madam Fay next week, how can leave when we finally gonna get some new fluff?	
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			What a shame to see you go, Cunning. Have fun wherever you land and come back and see us sometime!	
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Lol you are seriously comparing THAT to playing an mmo? That is the biggest stretch of a comparison I have ever heard. WS has come out with more content in the last year than the second half of the last four WoW expansions combined have. The game is huge, and offers TONS of content for free. What about the Halloween event? Or the Christmas event? All for free. And we know a new raid is coming soon. And if I'm not mistaken, the development team for WS is incredibly small now to add to that. Take a break, sure, but why would you quit a free to play game that you have devoted so much time into that you could still find fun with more content? I don't get it.
 
Seriously, Give.Me.A.Break.
 
Also I was not specifically talking about the OP. For all I know, he could be nothing like that. I was speaking about the whiny people that take the fact that this game is free for granted. Do not confuse criticism with whining.
 
All I did was make an off hand comment about how some people are so ungrateful.
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Hate to see people leave :(  Hope you have fun where you land.  Bnd hey just maybe here will entice you back :D
 
ETA:  If you don't want these types of threads to be visible on the front page:  Don't respond to them to keep bumping them to the front page.  Respond in, support, or make your own threads you think are more appropriate to keep hanging out in the front page.
			
				
	Edited January 9, 2016 by beattlebilly	
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			It is sad to see another long term supporter leave but I mostly agree with you on the third point. I just don't feel like the development team are in touch with the modern mmo customer/market, with that in mind I cannot see this game becoming popular or largely profitable. Who knows though, many mediocre mmos which have gone f2p and are still going strong today so maybe there is hope.	
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			I hope you'll keep an eye out over here and come back for new content when/if it shows up, CL. Thanks for taking the time to let us know and provide feedback.	
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Ignore all the nasty replies to your feedback cunning.
 
I'm sad to see you go, you always gave great feedback and I've had some good discussions with you over the course of the game. Sad to see another of us leave for almost exactly the same reason.
 
Almost mirroring your reasons for why I hardly log in anymore. /many hugs and luck for you	
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Carbine, you suck at dealing with bugs/problems. Flat out.
 
the dev teams ability to do, well- anything correctly
 
its become stunningly clear that Carbine has no clue what they're doing, and I don't expect that will change.
 
You took an amazing core game and let it fall to shambles with neglect and mismanagement
 
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I just don't feel like the development team are in touch with the modern mmo customer/market,
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What is wrong with all these dramaqueens and wannabe-moderators telling another fellow player what to post and what not to?
 
If you can't take it when somebody leaves some negative feedback on your favorite game/studio, maybe Wildstar/Carbine isn't the best choice for you in first place.
Considering how poor this game is being (and has always been) handled in many of it's aspects, you should rather go step on Carbine's feet instead of trying to shut somebody down who speaks out on this mess.
 
 
This guy played from release, hence probably longer than many of you.
Let this man have a word on why he leaves.	
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While I agree with certain points, I'm not sure this could be considered good feedback. These broad quotes sum up your attitude toward the game as a whole.
 
So the final word is... the game sucks, the developers suck, and you only stayed this long because you like to play games that suck?
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			Blade & Soul on the 17th!!! Can't wait!	
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What is wrong with all these dramaqueens and wannabe-moderators telling another fellow player what to post and what not to?
 
If you can't take it when somebody leaves some negative feedback on your favorite game/studio, maybe Wildstar/Carbine isn't the best choice for you in first place.
Considering how poor this game is being (and has always been) handled in many of it's aspects, you should rather go step on Carbine's feet instead of trying to shut somebody down who speaks out on this mess.
 
 
This guy played from release, hence probably longer than many of you.
Let this man have a word on why he leaves.
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I love this game to pieces, and I've played non stop since launch. However I've made the decision to leave today, and here's why:
 
1. No new (meaningful) content since launch. Thousands of dungeon runs/pvp matches and hundreds of GA/DSs later, and I just can't make myself do the same content I've been doing since launch anymore.
2. Current content is barely maintained in a working order. Carbine, you suck at dealing with bugs/problems. Flat out. Serious bugs/issues are let go for months and months (how long has limbo been totally broken now?). The patch and fix rate is just pathetic.
3. No faith in the studio/future of the game. It took a long time to break down my confidence in the dev teams ability to do, well- anything correctly. But I'm a masochist/optimist so I pushed through and gave the benefit of the doubt over and over and over. But its become stunningly clear that Carbine has no clue what they're doing, and I don't expect that will change.
 
You took an amazing core game and let it fall to shambles with neglect and mismanagement. Despite that, Wildstar has been the source of many great memories and a few thousand hours of fun for me. I'm not really upset anymore, just sad.
 
 
Best of luck to everyone.  :)
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Because, just maybe, there's a perfectly good thread covering much the same song and dance on this very page? It's the attitude that comes across of "my feedback is infinitely more important than yours because I've been around longer and thus merits its own thread rather than being buried in four pages of unimportant drivel from other players..." or "maybe by making a unique thread I'll catch the devs' attention!!" that rubs a lot of people the wrong way--not necessarily that he's posting anything at all. Whether the intent is self-importance or not, that's the tone that's been set.
 
Woulda been better off posted with the existing thread.
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Well then, I guess it's too bad there isn't an option to report a post and tell the mods that it's a duplicate discussion  :mellow:
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Well then, I guess it's too bad there isn't an option to report a post and tell the mods that it's a duplicate discussion  :mellow:
 
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	Edited January 9, 2016 by beattlebilly	
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What is wrong with all these dramaqueens and wannabe-moderators telling another fellow player what to post and what not to?
 
If you can't take it when somebody leaves some negative feedback on your favorite game/studio, maybe Wildstar/Carbine isn't the best choice for you in first place.
Considering how poor this game is being (and has always been) handled in many of it's aspects, you should rather go step on Carbine's feet instead of trying to shut somebody down who speaks out on this mess.
 
 
This guy played from release, hence probably longer than many of you.
Let this man have a word on why he leaves.
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Everyone has the right to express their opinions, of course, but I find that usually expressing my opinion is most meaningful when I feel like doing so might actually achieve something useful.
Which makes me wonder what the point is in criticizing people who create threads like this.
 
The people you're criticizing don't particularly have to care about your criticisms, because they're leaving. Many of them won't even be around to read your criticisms.
Your criticisms are guaranteed to generate an argument from people who--reasonably or not--view such posts as feedback that has some value, or basically agree with the points raised in the post, or simply don't like efforts of some community members to police other community members..
The argument guarantees that the thread will keep cycling back to the top of the forum listings, ensuring that it has a far wider audience than it would have if someone just posted that they're leaving and got a few farewells from community members inclined to do so.
 
So if your purpose in criticizing these threads is to keep negative commentary about the game out of the spotlight, I would say your efforts are astonishingly counterproductive.	
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Hey all, let's keep this thread on-topic and away from personal insults or criticisms. Whether or not someone chooses to make a goodbye thread doesn't really hurt anyone, and I agree with some, it's good feedback.
 
CL, you'll be missed, but I do hope that you continue to check back in because we do have some major things coming soontm. I can't say exactly what, but I think it's what you and many other players are looking for. Please reconsider, the forums won't be the same without you. :(
 
Cheers	
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	Edited January 9, 2016 by EsperXIV	
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So if your purpose in criticizing these threads is to keep negative commentary about the game out of the spotlight, I would say your efforts are astonishingly counterproductive.
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Yasfan, do you ever criticize people simply because you see something that strikes you as trollish or unintelligent or misleading or just generally bad in some way, even if it's not objectively that, and you simply feel like dissecting their comments to reveal that badness you've perceived?
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Sorry to see you go, CunningLinguist. I think your goodbye thread is a great example of this topic should be done. Even if some of the reasons aren't a big deal to me like no new content, I can understand why it would drive you away. I am also starting to lose my faith in-game because of the way things are handled, but I'll stick around for now and hope for the best.
 
Anyway, sad to see you go and hope you find another game that makes you happy.	
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Because, just maybe, there's a perfectly good thread covering much the same song and dance on this very page? It's the attitude that comes across of "my feedback is infinitely more important than yours because I've been around longer and thus merits its own thread rather than being buried in four pages of unimportant drivel from other players..." or "maybe by making a unique thread I'll catch the devs' attention!!" that rubs a lot of people the wrong way--not necessarily that he's posting anything at all. Whether the intent is self-importance or not, that's the tone that's been set because, rather than using the existing the thread, the OP felt the need to make an entirely new thread covering the same subject matter.
 
Woulda been better off posted with the existing thread.
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I'm so sorry that a community veteran posting a somber and frustrated goodbye to a community he's poured thousands of hours of his life into hurt your precious little eyes you poor little special snowflake.
Please leave thread, your childish crusade isn't necessary, nobody's impressed by your righteous epeen.
 
As for cunning, seen a lot of posts from you on here, sad to see you go :( really hoping that the 13th brings some new life  that we're all looking for into this game.
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Blade & Soul on the 17th!!! Can't wait!
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Saying goodbye is one thing, but there's a thread for it already, that was the point that was being made--which you seem to have missed rather spectacularly in your zeal to attack another poster. Ad hominem attacks really aren't going to get you far on this or any board.
 
People quit a game for various reasons. There's no good reason to make an individual thread every time someone quits. Doesn't matter if the player has been around five years or five days. At the end of the day, we're all players and we all have feedback. Having been a longtime mod elsewhere, though, I know how much it made my eyes bleed to have to merge several "feedback" threads because everyone saw fit to make their own. One thread is plenty enough if feedback is the goal, else it's just screaming "hey look at me, look at me!!"--whether that was the intention of the OP or not.
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Hey all, let's keep this thread on-topic and away from personal insults or criticisms. Whether or not someone chooses to make a goodbye thread doesn't really hurt anyone, and I agree with some, it's good feedback.
 
CL, you'll be missed, but I do hope that you continue to check back in because we do have some major things coming soontm. I can't say exactly what, but I think it's what you and many other players are looking for. Please reconsider, the forums won't be the same without you. :(
 
Cheers
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Saying goodbye is one thing, but there's a thread for it already, that was the point that was being made--which you seem to have missed rather spectacularly in your zeal to attack another poster. Ad hominem attacks really aren't going to get you far on this or any board.
 
People quit a game for various reasons. There's no good reason to make an individual thread every time someone quits. Doesn't matter if the player has been around five years or five days. At the end of the day, we're all players and we all have feedback. Having been a longtime mod elsewhere, though, I know how much it made my eyes bleed to have to merge several "feedback" threads because everyone saw fit to make their own. One thread is plenty enough if feedback is the goal, else it's just screaming "hey look at me, look at me!!"--whether that was the intention of the OP or not.
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Saying goodbye is one thing, but there's a thread for it already, that was the point that was being made--which you seem to have missed rather spectacularly in your zeal to attack another poster. Ad hominem attacks really aren't going to get you far on this or any board.
 
People quit a game for various reasons. There's no good reason to make an individual thread every time someone quits. Doesn't matter if the player has been around five years or five days. At the end of the day, we're all players and we all have feedback. Having been a longtime mod elsewhere, though, I know how much it made my eyes bleed to have to merge several "feedback" threads because everyone saw fit to make their own. One thread is plenty enough if feedback is the goal, else it's just screaming "hey look at me, look at me!!"--whether that was the intention of the OP or not.
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I love this game to pieces, and I've played non stop since launch. However I've made the decision to leave today, and here's why:
 
1. No new (meaningful) content since launch. Thousands of dungeon runs/pvp matches and hundreds of GA/DSs later, and I just can't make myself do the same content I've been doing since launch anymore.
2. Current content is barely maintained in a working order. Carbine, you suck at dealing with bugs/problems. Flat out. Serious bugs/issues are let go for months and months (how long has limbo been totally broken now?). The patch and fix rate is just pathetic.
3. No faith in the studio/future of the game. It took a long time to break down my confidence in the dev teams ability to do, well- anything correctly. But I'm a masochist/optimist so I pushed through and gave the benefit of the doubt over and over and over. But its become stunningly clear that Carbine has no clue what they're doing, and I don't expect that will change.
 
You took an amazing core game and let it fall to shambles with neglect and mismanagement. Despite that, Wildstar has been the source of many great memories and a few thousand hours of fun for me. I'm not really upset anymore, just sad.
 
 
Best of luck to everyone.  :)
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So you are complaining about me complaining about someone else repeating the same shit that we have seen a million times? Umm congratulations?
 
I have a genuine question: Why do people HAVE to announce when they are leaving an ammo? Do they think people care?
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Hey all, let's keep this thread on-topic and away from personal insults or criticisms. Whether or not someone chooses to make a goodbye thread doesn't really hurt anyone, and I agree with some, it's good feedback.
 
CL, you'll be missed, but I do hope that you continue to check back in because we do have some major things coming soontm. I can't say exactly what, but I think it's what you and many other players are looking for. Please reconsider, the forums won't be the same without you. :(
 
Cheers
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			It's a rant thread nothing more, It's just sad because cunning was a very helpful and longtime member of the game and community but it makes sense why cunning left.	
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Hey CL,
 
See ya mate, sad to see you go and totally understand your view point as I am in the same boat. Amazing how pathetic a few forum posters (self entitled mods) in this thread have been, ignore them great feedback and thoughts.
 
Ciao.	
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			Sorry to see you go, CL. :( You were one of the old familiar faces and you'll be missed! I can understand why you're leaving, though. I certainly hope things improve in such a way to draw you back. This is such an incredible game, if only it got the love it deserves.	
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imo the game is good enough to stop playing it FOREVER atm but i know a ton of people who will stop playing if redmoon is not going to be announced soon.
maybe some of those will come back, maybe they wont.
this is a free to play game now so the quality of new content wont be as good as the old one (even tho there were tons of bugs it was high quality overall). its easy to start later again with your old char when new content is released-
 
I dont think those "why i leave" threads are necessary but whatever keeps your head clear OP.
			
				
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It's fine if people don't want to try WS after looking at negative reviews, but there are many who would do the same from simply seeing threads like this and thinking, "Oh, the game is dying. Why should I even bother?". Regardless of whether or not that was the intent of the op, that is the impression many people will get.
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It's the impression people SHOULD get, because honestly, it's the state of the game. I wish I stopped by here before plopping down money on a sub fee and a few spare ncoin. Now I'm sitting in a dead game filled with angry, unfriendly and incredibly unhelpful to new players community feeling like if I dont keep logging in for the next 3 weeks I've wasted my money.
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It's the impression people SHOULD get, because honestly, it's the state of the game. I wish I stopped by here before plopping down money on a sub fee and a few spare ncoin. Now I'm sitting in a dead game filled with angry, unfriendly and incredibly unhelpful to new players community feeling like if I dont keep logging in for the next 3 weeks I've wasted my money.
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What server are you on?
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While I agree with certain points, I'm not sure this could be considered good feedback. These broad quotes sum up your attitude toward the game as a whole.
 
So the final word is... the game sucks, the developers suck, and you only stayed this long because you like to play games that suck?
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Entity Exile. I've already joined the LFG chat, which is nice for finding wb trains, but that is really about all there is. The rest of the game is hour long queues and being berated by raid geared players for not being able to keep up with their damage, being told to join a guild/circle if I want to "be carried" (hint: I dont) then being stonewalled when asking about guilds/circles that will take in new players, and the infuriating catch 22 of being told that I need better gear to get into raids, but need raid level gear to not get kicked from vet dungeons.
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If some major things means a new raid tier that's actually challenging and 3 or 4 new dungeons without bugs, Wildstar may have a chance this year. 
 
 
 
 
 
Pls no adventures/expeditions. 
 
pls
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As much as I hate to say it, it probably is that, and knowing Carbin they think we all want more expeditions and adventures and more laggy wolrd bosses, but whatever. I plan to keep playing for a long time, but I wish Carbine stopped overlooking things loike they always have. 
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I love this game to pieces, and I've played non stop since launch. However I've made the decision to leave today, and here's why:
 
1. No new (meaningful) content since launch. Thousands of dungeon runs/pvp matches and hundreds of GA/DSs later, and I just can't make myself do the same content I've been doing since launch anymore.
2. Current content is barely maintained in a working order. Carbine, you suck at dealing with bugs/problems. Flat out. Serious bugs/issues are let go for months and months (how long has limbo been totally broken now?). The patch and fix rate is just pathetic.
3. No faith in the studio/future of the game. It took a long time to break down my confidence in the dev teams ability to do, well- anything correctly. But I'm a masochist/optimist so I pushed through and gave the benefit of the doubt over and over and over. But its become stunningly clear that Carbine has no clue what they're doing, and I don't expect that will change.
 
You took an amazing core game and let it fall to shambles with neglect and mismanagement. Despite that, Wildstar has been the source of many great memories and a few thousand hours of fun for me. I'm not really upset anymore, just sad.
 
 
Best of luck to everyone.  :)
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Yes, and for the tenth time, there IS A PERFECT THREAD ON THE FRONT PAGE FOR THAT. The issue is similar to the people who won't play the game because it's 'dead', thus perpetuating the issue. 
 
 
 
And don't argue like that. Don't twist my words by saying "Certainly poor form to suppress anything negative in hopes of roping in fresh meat.". No, I said numerous times that you can discuss anything you want, but copy/pasting the same shit that is literally already being discussed in another thread on the front page just justify announcing that you are leaving, is not the way to do it. Let me ask you this: Why did you have to include the "I'm quitting" portion of the title? Why not just discuss the issues you have? You see, the problem is that many people will see thread titles like that and immediately think "well this game is dying, what's the point in even trying it?" even though they could end up liking it.
 
 
And no, I am not saying we should 'remove all negative reviews', I am saying that people should give the game a chance and decide for themselves. If people keep making threads like this, many people probably won't. And it is very difficult to compare amazon to a forum. Amazon uses a 5 star rating system that averages out all the reviews. So even if you see a few bad reviews right away, you can still get an overall impression of the quality of the product.
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The funny thing is that you can do all that content for free as well. I really don't know how people can be so mad at the content in the game if it's FREE.
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Oh really? Some of us paid for this content. It may be free to you, but I have 18 months of investment like many other people here do.
 
As some one who actually pays for the free ride of others, I would expect that mine, and any other paying customers comments, suggestions, or remarks be heard with or without your approval.
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No approval needed, and +1 to this.
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Thanks Olivar. I just hate it when some one says something is free. Nothing is free. Some one pays for it.
 
I have seen you in the forums for a long time Olivar, so I know you also pay for it.
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You and me both Oli. Just knowing I have the Osun house and had it since f2p launch is depressing working out how much money I put into this game... also my premium or w/e it is goes until 2017 still.
 
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CL has earned the right to make this thread. And it has impact because of what he's invested in this game.
 
I'm sad to see it, but by surprised. I'm site Carbine hates to see it, as obviously they want to talk but can't. :(
 
Anyway, if I'd had Avatus on farm of a year and was tired of doing hardmentors, I doubt I'd have stick it out as long as OP. As it is, the game has been great for me and my level of activity/rate of progression. But I do hope something great comes down the pipe soon.	
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So you are complaining about me complaining about someone else repeating the same shit that we have seen a million times? Umm congratulations?
 
I have a genuine question: Why do people HAVE to announce when they are leaving an ammo? Do they think people care? And dont give me the rationale that they are doing it to expose the flaws that made them leave. There are plenty of other ways to do that without making another damn 'I'm quitting an mmo' thread. Hell, there's already a perfect thread for that on the front page. Has it ever occurred to people that making threads like this actually hurts the game more? When people are reading the forums and contemplating trying the game, and they see this for the 50th time, what kind of impression are they going to get? Again, if you have issues with the game then discuss them. There's nothing wrong with that.
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CL has earned the right to make this thread. And it has impact because of what he's invested in this game.
 
I'm sad to see it, but by surprised. I'm site Carbine hates to see it, as obviously they want to talk but can't. :(
 
Anyway, if I'd had Avatus on farm of a year and was tired of doing hardmentors, I doubt I'd have stick it out as long as OP. As it is, the game has been great for me and my level of activity/rate of progression. But I do hope something great comes down the pipe soon.
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It's this post that pretty much illustrates why some boards have a "no quitting threads/posts" rule.
 
OP: Yeah, you're going. We get that. People leave all the time, and many for the same reasons you do. Fact is, one thread isn't going to change things...and forum posters are well-known to be a vocal minority in any case, so an "I quit and here's why" thread will have little impact.
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