114753-monday-marks-120-days-since-launch-is-carbine-really-going-to-start-deleting-credd

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For those who don't know, or forgot, CREDD expires after 3 months (30 days) of inactivity.
 
After the free 30 days, that cutoff is going to hit for the first time on Monday, and I'm genuinely curious to see if Carbine and NCSoft actually dare pull that trigger	
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			how dare they delete CREDD at 90 days like they said they would since the beginning.	
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			If you don't play game, why would you care?	
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			Can you re-sell CREDD?	
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If you don't play game, why would you care?
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Can you re-sell CREDD?
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Yes, you can on a CREDD exchange :)
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In case they want to come back?
 
I honestly can't think of a logical, non-sleazy reason for CREDD to get deleted.
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			I just remembered that it said that it "may" be deleted. But it will be interesting to see if they actually will. I guess we might never know the answer to that, unless those people come back to the game and start making posts that they came back to check out Dreop 3 but their CREDD is gone.	
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			I didn't understand the whole "it gets deleted thing" when I first read it. After reading some of your responses I now have a better understanding as to why this is necessary. So, cheers :)	
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			90 days gone is probably just a good point to assume never coming back and "maybe" should probably be read as "probably not"chances are what they would do is basically seize it and seed the CREDD exchange with it so it takes some plat out of economy while keeping CREDD actively exchanged and within economy without actually giving it away for free.	
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90 days gone is probably just a good point to assume never coming back and "maybe" should probably be read as "probably not"
 
chances are what they would do is basically seize it and seed the CREDD exchange with it so it takes some plat out of economy while keeping CREDD actively exchanged and within economy without actually giving it away for free.
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ROFLMAO they would not reintroduce the credd back into the market that would be dumb and deflate credd prices and make the third party websites have the advantages in credd prices by more.
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why wouldn't they? EVE does it with plex from seized accounts and it works out just fine
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			Don't see the issue here. I like that this system is in place. It keeps players returning and it makes sense as it falls into their quarterly update schedule..hmm..come to think of it, have we been deceived from the start? It sounds like we were always meant to receive quarterly updates,and not monthly... I believe that Carbine should enforce a soft sweep though, allowing a user who may be a week late to return to use his credd as it would be unfortunate if a player went away and decided to come back only a week late to find it is no longer at his availability to use. Another kindness would be for carbine to 'forgive' any players who return with credd in their pockets for their first times that are past the 3 month date.	
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So people logged in for the early access and made enough plat to buy up enough CREDD to affect the market, then logged off never to return?
 
Yeah, makes sense.	
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It'll be interesting to see if they grant it leniency to run until after November or into December.
 
I agree with the policy in general, but all things considered, maybe they should wait until December before introducing it.  A lot of people who quit early might want to give Drop 3 a try, but might not want to use their sub to do it.  After that, three months is probably fine.	
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Anyone who thinks that something that was plainly stated in writing would be deleted after 90 days and came back at day 91 and whined it was actually gone deserved what they get and also would deserve a public HAW HAW from Nelson Muntz.
 
Reminds me of the original housing upkeep kerfuffle in LOTRO when it clearly stated you would have your house repossessed after X number of days not paid up and people came back incredulous that  a contract they agreed upon was actually honored in all respects..
 
Oh... wait a sec, Turbine caved and went back on their word with that one.
 
Bad example, nothing to see here, move along.. :P	
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So people logged in for the early access and made enough plat to buy up enough CREDD to affect the market, then logged off never to return?
 
Yeah, makes sense.
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So people logged in for the early access and made enough plat to buy up enough CREDD to affect the market, then logged off never to return?
 
Yeah, makes sense.
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I just remembered that it said that it "may" be deleted. But it will be interesting to see if they actually will. I guess we might never know the answer to that, unless those people come back to the game and start making posts that they came back to check out Dreop 3 but their CREDD is gone.
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			That expiration still makes no sense to me beyond Carbine being extremely greedy. They shouldn't care if an inactive account has a few CREDD sitting on it. In fact, they should be glad it does, because that means it's easier for a player to return and try new content at a later date, and maybe end up sticking around.	
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I personally don't mind the expiration date of in-active CREDD, though those that may have let a CREDD purchased with $, if any exist, shouldn't fall into this category and if so receive a refund. The reason I don't mind is if I don't enjoy the game (which atm I am not due to PvP queue times) I can let my account go inactive, at 89 days I can reactive via CREDD from the character select screen check things out and continue or rinse and repeat. Thus extending my CREDD's uses by putting my account in limbos. 
 
P.S. CREDD caps at 12 in the account inventory and if purchased with gold cannot be bound to a character so it'd be rather difficult to monopolize the CREDD exchange unless the person has multiple accounts.  	
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Unused C.R.E.D.D. may expire if left on an account that has been without an active subscription for three months.
 
That's just a gentle warning to use it or lose it, as opposed to Carbine being indecisive about whether or not CREDD will expire. I would assume that expiration is an automatic thing that happens 90 days after the subscription lapses.
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I personally don't mind the expiration date of in-active CREDD, though those that may have let a CREDD purchased with $, if any exist, shouldn't fall into this category and if so receive a refund. The reason I don't mind is if I don't enjoy the game (which atm I am not due to PvP queue times) I can let my account go inactive, at 89 days I can reactive via CREDD from the character select screen check things out and continue or rinse and repeat. Thus extending my CREDD's uses by putting my account in limbos. 
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So you don't mind the expiration date because... it forces you to waste CREDD if you want to keep items you've invested currency in? That makes no sense. It would be better for everyone - including the game - if they didn't expire on inactive accounts so that said inactive accounts could potentially be reactivated at any date in the future. It's not like Carbine loses the $20 someone spent to buy the CREDD if it goes unused.
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			Uh... I realize what it says on the business model page. I said it was pretty bad back when they first introduced CREDD, and I still think it's pretty bad.	
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Yes, they did. CREDD was a mere 2-3p in the beginning and Carbine didn't implement a CREDD cap (which I believe is 12) until after CREDD went live. I know a guy who bought 47 CREDD the first week before the cap was implemented and they let him keep it. He was then able to control the market until he quit the game with around 20 CREDD left. I know it doesn't make sense to buy up a whole ton of CREDD then quit the game entirely, but that's what people did.
 
EDIT: Not to mention, Architect was extremely OP at launch and people made boat loads of plat just from vendoring their architect results, so again, yes, people were able to make that sort of money in the first couple days of early access.
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My guess for the 90 day sweep is to clear up some data storage.. I mean 90 days is a lot of time for you to decide on returning or moving on.
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That expiration still makes no sense to me beyond Carbine being extremely greedy. They shouldn't care if an inactive account has a few CREDD sitting on it. In fact, they should be glad it does, because that means it's easier for a player to return and try new content at a later date, and maybe end up sticking around.
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why wouldn't they? EVE does it with plex from seized accounts and it works out just fine
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its all legal financial stuff, Carbine can't count that money form the CREDD until the CREDD is used. It's the same/similar reason store vouchers, gift certificates, loyalty program rewards etc have a use by date even though they are often in years, not months
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The reason why gift vouchers are done like that is there is normally a cost of goods sold to go against that gift voucher. It makes the quarterly, monthly reports look a lot better putting the revenue and the COGs in the same month, especially companies that rely nearly entirely on item sales.
 
As for if CREDD would be that way I could see it working both ways, as they could consider CREDD a virtual item.
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Well CREEDs are to be deleted for few reasons.
First if some1 that is no longer logging in gets hacked and he will have many CREEDs left it will be feast for gold sellers or/and can ruin CREED economy.
Second this person alone could be at some point trying to sell gold and/or destroy CREED economy, as it wouldn't mean a thing to him/her/it of course there can be ban for that, but what's done is done.
Third Carbine profit. Some1 could be selling character just for CREEDs after a while and other (new) player would more likely buy product with 20 CREEDs, than new one with (only) 30 days subscription. Besides Carbine needs to know what cash flow should they expect from the game - with tons of CREEDs on nonactive accounts it always could happen that some1 will just log in to sell his XX CREEDs to give some plat to his friend still playing WS and friend would buy CREEDs for that plat or just stick with new currency.	
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For those who don't know, or forgot, CREDD expires after 3 months (30 days) of inactivity.
 
After the free 30 days, that cutoff is going to hit for the first time on Monday, and I'm genuinely curious to see if Carbine and NCSoft actually dare pull that trigger
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IMHO, deleting CREDD is just blatantly anti-consumer, and I'll be shocked if they're desperate enough to do it. The last thing WildStar needs right now is the bad PR that would bring.
 
 
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its all legal financial stuff, Carbine can't count that money form the CREDD until the CREDD is used. It's the same/similar reason store vouchers, gift certificates, loyalty program rewards etc have a use by date even though they are often in years, not months
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its all legal financial stuff, Carbine can't count that money form the CREDD until the CREDD is used. It's the same/similar reason store vouchers, gift certificates, loyalty program rewards etc have a use by date even though they are often in years, not months
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Log in either before you quit or within 90 days (yes, this burns one).
Sell the c.r.e.d.d.
Leave.
 
Platinum doesn't evaporate.	
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its all legal financial stuff, Carbine can't count that money form the CREDD until the CREDD is used. It's the same/similar reason store vouchers, gift certificates, loyalty program rewards etc have a use by date even though they are often in years, not months
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Here's my issue... they said big content drops each month. 
The last was JULY.
 
Drop 3 is suppose to be the big silver bullet for fixing the game up in many ways, and they haven't exactly been pumping out 'bug fix's' let alone 'balance/current content fix's'.
 
I've got many friends who grabbed credd, to come back and when the next big bug fix is out.
If they get back and it's expired, they can't post on forums, can't even do things like vote on poles for mega server name, etc...
That'll be the last straw for them and it'll be a uninstall and don't look back.
 
Anyway, I think it'd help lots if they held off expiring credd till the basics are working. (Finished Crafting skills, gear itemization that isn't crafted blues over dungy/raid drop, sort of things)	
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Could be like a magazine subscription where you sell the year's worth of issues but only count revenue as each individual issue goes out.
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That expiration still makes no sense to me beyond Carbine being extremely greedy. They shouldn't care if an inactive account has a few CREDD sitting on it. In fact, they should be glad it does, because that means it's easier for a player to return and try new content at a later date, and maybe end up sticking around.
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I applied all the CREDD i had to my acc, making it last until July 2015.
 
 
The fact i havn't played in over a month means i'm just letting it burn through while i watch and wait and play other stuff while keeping an eye on how Wildstar is doing.
 
I suggest others do the same (give it a weekend or 2 of farming CREDD for x months, apply it all, then sit back without fear of it going away as its being used)	
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