109730-with-every-person-that-quits

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			This is just my generalization about the game and any MMO in general, so take it for what it's worth. With every 1 person that quits Wildstar, there will probably be at least 1 or 2 more people that sign on too play.... but I could be wrong.	
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This is just my generalization about the game, so take it for what it's worth. With every 1 person that quits Wildstar, there will probably be at least 1 or 2 more people that sign on too play.... but I could be wrong.
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			US - NA.  Stormtalon for PvE.  Evindra for RP-PvE.  Focus all the newbies, and hope to god server transfers come soon.	
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US - NA.  Stormtalon for PvE.  Evindra for RP-PvE.  Focus all the newbies, and hope to god server transfers come soon.
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 :lol:  I don't have any problem going highpop before everyone else gets out of low.
 
It was foretold that, one day, all the roleplayers would inherit the Earth.
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 :lol:  I don't have any problem going highpop before everyone else gets out of low.
 
It was foretold that, one day, all the roleplayers would inherit the Earth.
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Strangely enough.. I'm working on a Tabletop story resembling that.  Inheriting the earth sucks!  Let's hyperbole and say there's 1:12 people is a Role Player.  ...that means we'll need to bury like 6.2 BILLION people!  That's ALOT of digging.
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Strangely enough.. I'm working on a Tabletop story resembling that.  Inheriting the earth sucks!  Let's hyperbole and say there's 1:12 people is a Role Player.  ...that means we'll need to bury like 6.2 BILLION people!  That's ALOT of digging.
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Strangely enough.. I'm working on a Tabletop story resembling that.  Inheriting the earth sucks!  Let's hyperbole and say there's 1:12 people is a Role Player.  ...that means we'll need to bury like 6.2 BILLION people!  That's ALOT of digging.
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With every person that quits:
 
That's one less person we need to listen to *cupcake* about a two month old game, because it doesn't have the same features that a 10 years old game does.
 
 
 
I count that as a win.	
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Eh, details.  We'll sort it out as soon as I'm back from my Shadowrun night.
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5th?
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			a lot of people from super dead servers are migrating to the few large servers so if you happen to be on one of those it will probably look like population growth	
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I was just referencing it (I don't have that kind of time anymore between Wildstar and work), but when I WAS still playing last year, we were still using 4th.
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a lot of people from super dead servers are migrating to the few large servers so if you happen to be on one of those it will probably look like population growth
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We _try_ to get something in once every week / other week / 3 weeks.  We just grabbed 5th.  While I like 4th, 5 makes ALOT of things easier for new players to get in.  
 
 
 
*uses orange cone flashlights*  If you would please follow the safety cones.  PvE to the left.  Stormtalon.  PvE-RP to the Right.  Evindra.  PvP goes into the giant Octagon just down the hall.
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I'm on the train of "new server", but I do not want to lose my main. It sounds like I can not transfer to Stormtalon yet? And I've never played on an RP server, and really so not want to "rp" a character. I just want to play with people :3
Seems marketing Chus was a waste and a laugh for the Dom population. Seems realms have great Ex-pops, but very sad low Dom-pops. Rolling fresh just seems like a waste of time, but not playing with people makes a MMO become boring. I don't want to be added to the QQ list, but I am QQing about population lol. Why play a lone? So why play at all?	
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I'm on the train of "new server", but I do not want to lose my main. It sounds like I can not transfer to Stormtalon yet? And I've never played on an RP server, and really so not want to "rp" a character. I just want to play with people :3
Seems marketing Chus was a waste and a laugh for the Dom population. Seems realms have great Ex-pops, but very sad low Dom-pops. Rolling fresh just seems like a waste of time, but not playing with people makes a MMO become boring. I don't want to be added to the QQ list, but I am QQing about population lol. Why play a lone? So why play at all?
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I'd love to give the RP community a try instead of my current server, but I'm not payin' $20 to shuffle some bits around.
 
I'll just stop playing entirely.	
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I don't RP.  I'm Exile on Evindra.  No one minds.  I'm Dom on Stormtalon.  I've heard you can't transfer to.  Which is unfortunate.  It doesn't seem full.
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It was foretold that, one day, all the roleplayers would inherit the Earth. 
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Got a fresh transfer in last night to Exile Stormtalon, so from what I gather, you can still transfer to it. Or did I misread that?
 
Also, to anyone going to Stormtalon as an Exile, feel free to hit me up in game. I've been known to dedicate some time helping. :P
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I'd love to give the RP community a try instead of my current server, but I'm not payin' $20 to shuffle some bits around.
 
I'll just stop playing entirely.
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Then don't pay. Just some play with us. No one is gonna die if you start over again, right? Then maybe once Carbine/NCSoft picks a course of action, you can move your other toon.
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I'm on the train of "new server", but I do not want to lose my main. It sounds like I can not transfer to Stormtalon yet? And I've never played on an RP server, and really so not want to "rp" a character. I just want to play with people :3
 
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Definitely can transfer over with us and new players still joining. Had a guy ask how to get to my house last night after neighboring up.
 
I'll always hit you up Kael ;)
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So come and play with some; with some people! 
 
Evindra RP's are mostly, from what I can tell, private circles of people, or full-on planned events and get-togethers. I have been on Evindra about a month now, and during that time I have not seen a single person RPing in open-world chat. Not one.
 
The coffee thread people have a great guild on Dom side, and we're growing every day. It's a great atmosphere, and there isn't really much (if any) RPing happening, so you wouldn't be bombarded with that, either.
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I'm on the train of "new server", but I do not want to lose my main. It sounds like I can not transfer to Stormtalon yet? And I've never played on an RP server, and really so not want to "rp" a character. I just want to play with people :3
Seems marketing Chus was a waste and a laugh for the Dom population. Seems realms have great Ex-pops, but very sad low Dom-pops. Rolling fresh just seems like a waste of time, but not playing with people makes a MMO become boring. I don't want to be added to the QQ list, but I am QQing about population lol. Why play a lone? So why play at all?
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Don't go Dom if you want a queue, no one goes Dom, no queues.  If people would stop saying that maybe people wouldn't be afraid to roll Dom.
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*throws Evindra gang sign*
 	
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I once wanted a true, full on Shadowrun MMORPG.
 
Then I realized you'd need to essentially make something like five or six flawless MMORPGs that work flawlessly together.  You'd need a driving game, one based around decking (which would be completely based outside reality), melee combat, guns, magic, stealth...  It'd be like rolling Skyrim, CoD, Assassin's Creed, Need 4 Speed, and God knows what else into a mixing bowl and coming out with something that all works together perfectly, in a cityscape that would be bigger than any other video game environment I can think of offhand in a variable environment that has no central story, but generates them based on your standings and tries to actively screw you over for no loot.
 
Wildstar is what you can build in nine years.  I'd be 50 before even a godlike development house could get a game like that out if they started right now.
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Face it, female aurins are the biggest reason for the population discrepency.
 
Besides, wouldn't the side with less people have shorter pvp queue?
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			Just had to pipe in.,. Evindra is an amazing server with plenty of very active guilds.Exile side is extremely populated. Great Server!	
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			From observation and "environmental feels" inside the game... thinking the numbers in that ratio were meant to go the other way... for every 2 that leave, 1 signs on to play might be more like it. :D	
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Then don't pay. Just some play with us. No one is gonna die if you start over again, right? Then maybe once Carbine/NCSoft picks a course of action, you can move your other toon.
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What's the price of CREDD on Evindra? I'm wondering if I could bring my plat over with me...
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What's the price of CREDD on Evindra? I'm wondering if I could bring my plat over with me...
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I don't think there is anything wrong with the actual Dominion faction causing people to not play it.  It's word of mouth from the forums and things like that telling people if you want to actually get LFG queues don't roll Dom.  Self fulfilling prophecy and all that.  Don't go Dom if you want a queue, no one goes Dom, no queues.  If people would stop saying that maybe people wouldn't be afraid to roll Dom.
 
That and people are inherently going to roll to the bigger side in PVP.  Most people who roll on PVP servers just want to be on the side with more people.
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			The price of CREDD on Evindra is currently 6p66g66s66c	
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The price of CREDD on Evindra is currently 6p66g66s66c
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The price of CREDD on Evindra is currently 6p66g66s66c
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			Market prices for CREDD on Evie have been rising. All you new folk.	
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I dunno, RP/FPS games like Borderlands 2 aren't too far off. The driving combat in that game is actually better than what I remember in Auto Assault, which was supposed to be a vehicle based MMO. The melee is effective if uninspired, gun combat is solid, and magic combat is essentially already there when you look at special gun effects, player abilities and the elemental effects. Heck, there are some ways the questing system is more solid than in this game.
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I've given up hope of it ever happening.
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			wait i thought this was a thread about how many new people were getting the game	
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wait i thought this was a thread about how many new people were getting the game
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Unfortunately I quit because of the game itself, and not because of the low population.
 
I never thought I would quit this game.  But I reached my wits end today.
 
I hope one day it succeeds to bring back all of us who ended up leaving.	
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Bah, Shadowrun in general has to be the greatest franchise that is also heavily underused. The potential is almost infinite, and yet the selection of games is... slim pickings at best.
Well at least the indie RPG was good enough for me, though it was rather simplistic.
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			If so many people are quitting.. why do you think more people would come play this dieing game until some drastic changes are made?	
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Market prices for CREDD on Evie have been rising. All you new folk.
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If so many people are quitting.. why do you think more people would come play this dieing game until some drastic changes are made?
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			Compare to the numbers in June the new players are small, still I agree some or most of them that left will be back once they implemented much needed changes.	
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Bah, Shadowrun in general has to be the greatest franchise that is also heavily underused. The potential is almost infinite, and yet the selection of games is... slim pickings at best.
Well at least the indie RPG was good enough for me, though it was rather simplistic.
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Market prices for CREDD on Evie have been rising. All you new folk.
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That's how it's looking on Evindra right now.
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LOL WHAT?? Evindra is bleeding out at an extremely alarming rate. I'm seeing less and less activity from my guild, faction alliances, neighbors, and friends in general. There are literally only HALF (if not even less!) of those people playing right now, compared to last month. I'm not saying there aren't new players coming in or anything, but we're losing more than we're gaining for sure. The only thing Evindra has going for it, is that it's a RP server, and those pretty much NEVER die in any MMO.
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Compare to the numbers in June the new players are small, still I agree some or most of them that left will be back once they implemented much needed changes.
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I don't think Evindra is indicative of the game's success. I have spent enough time in RP to develop attachments to the people I'm playing with. If they quit, so do I. The game itself has precious little appeal.
 
I wili log in for player made content, not Carbines.	
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I don't think Evindra is indicative of the game's success. I have spent enough time in RP to develop attachments to the people I'm playing with. If they quit, so do I. The game itself has precious little appeal.
 
I wili log in for player made content, not Carbines.
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And like I said elsewhere, I am certain there is a lesson in their for Carbine somewhere, when the "filthy casual carebear scum" are having more fun with their game than the people they profess to be catering too.
 
Seems like there are some messed up priorities in the home office.
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Not sure that's accurate.
 
Who are they catering to? I guess that's the first point of discussion. I've not seen an official post by Carbine on the matter, but Wildstar has always been sold to me as a game for the hardcore.
Who are the hardcore? In my mind, it's the top guilds like Enigma, Voodoo, etc.
Who's doing all the complaining on the forums? Not the above.
 
In general, that is. There was the complaint from an Enigma raider about 40-mans and PPP (I would assume things got better after downing SD ;)), there was another complaint yesterday about gauntlets being crap.
But all in all I think the hardcore are having a lot of fun raiding, I personally love it.
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The biggest problem are people who think they're hardcore, but not.  A very sizeable group, apparently.
 
People who want to be up there with Enigma, the creme de la creme who have earned my unerring respect for their ability, but really can't handle raiding like this more than one to two days a week.  I do believe part of why some people quit the game was that it shattered their expectations.  Surely, it could not be them who made them unable to clear content faster than anyone else in the world.  Game's RNG.
 
After you get to the more casual side of that, though, you've got people largely happy with the game again.  Guys like me and Tex aren't killing for content, we're not in a hurry, we're enjoying dicking around with the game.  Since we're not ZOGMRAIDN we aren't really so desperate for the gearing and attunement changes (though they'd be nice).
 
The people who got caught in the gears were people who wanted to raid, but disliked that Enigma's time and skill investment put them in Datascape before those players even cleared attunement.  It's a sort of paradox where people say they're casual and complain that they can't keep up with the hardcore, or people who say they're hardcore when they're not.
 
Really, hardcore and casual are nebulous, ephemeral terms to describe playtime, but people got caught up in the definitions.  Raiding in this game is a sledgehammer of difficulty and, right now, a moderately steep gear grind.  I don't mind the gear issues being a bit more regular and customizeable so that not so much comes up worthless, Carbine should fix these if it helps people.  But the people who washed out of the game this soon aren't "casuals" or "hardcores", but people somewhere in the middle that wanted to keep their cake and eat it, too.
 
Part of having fun with this game is realizing I'm not in Enigma, never would be, and wouldn't personally enjoy it.  Once you're on your own time doing your own thing, the game's a lot more fun.  Maybe if people come back once gearing has been simplified and normalized, they'll be a bit more relaxed and won't burn themselves out trying to do something they don't want to do at the rate they're trying to do it.
 
The other portion are PVPers since PVP gets exploited hard in this game.  It's PVP, that's kind of how it goes.  People will exploit every cheap little unintended thing if they can get away with it.  Fixes are incoming, though, and the best cure for any PVP game is more PVPers.  Once they get enough well geared 50s taking the plunge into Warplots, things are going to get a little heated.
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Yeah, I'd last about ten seconds around guilds like Enigma. I mean, I totally respect that level of skill and I *really* respect what they do for the communities they raid in, with the filming and how-to's and whatnot ... but man, that level of intensity would make me feel like I should be getting paid or something.
 
I am glad there are folks in the world who are not only skilled, but willing to share their knowledge. I just wish others could be happy *for them* and realize their own short-comings, as opposed to trying to *be them* and getting upset when they can't compete at that level.	
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Hmmmmnawwwww 
 
I think people quit the game because they found it sucks. It's simple. Instead of pleading with the devs and writing bug tickets, they took everyones advice - " if you don't like it DON'T PLAY" 
 
People won't cake around if a game is not fun doesn't matter if you call them hardcore or casual. 
 
Can't really say that there's a single hardcore guild in this game anyways. No life/socially dysfunctional? yeah maybe, but hardcore? Naaah
Everyone playing wildstar is a casual and there's nothing wrong with that. ;)
 
Ah and you'll find a lot of the exploits come from pve'rs trying to do pvp as quickly as possible. Real pvpers want to feel like they earnt their place not bribe/get carried there.
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			Is server transfer for free? How it works?	
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Is server transfer for free? How it works?
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This is just my generalization about the game and any MMO in general, so take it for what it's worth. With every 1 person that quits Wildstar, there will probably be at least 1 or 2 more people that sign on too play.... but I could be wrong.
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Sorry to say, but that's not how it works in the least. In sales, generally speaking, 1 person leads to several word of mouth impressions, and will generally either discourage or encourage whomever to try it out. Wildstar isn't the hot new MMO anymore. People have given their impressions about the endgame. Just as ESO has dropped off the radar, so will Wildstar, unless it gets a large playerbase back. Unfortunately, getting players to return is much harder than getting players to try a game out and most players who were aware of wildstar have bought it by now. Products don't continue selling at the same rate that it did in its initial release.
 
You'll see a steady decline in the player base until a patch is released, then a minor boost, then a steady decline again.
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That's not strictly speaking true.  It's especially not true since Wildstar is in the unique position of being generally well received by people who played it, they quit because of much more easily solvable issues.  I mean, changing the gearing might be a PITA that can take a month or two to do right, but it's not like FFXIV 1.0 where the game just straight up sucked.  Most Wildstar players who drop those quitting threads said, point blank, they want to come back if a few relatively minor issues are changed in the endgame.  That's not a horrible place to be.
 
Also, the pattern you're describing is a bit more accurate some time after launch, when everything has sort of "settled down".  And it isn't necessarily true regardless, WoW's climbed to the top of the mountain and back, FFXIV died until they completely rebuilt the game and now it's doing fine, EVE Online has been steadily rising to the half million mark its entire existence, that sort of thing.  It doesn't help, either, that subs =/= money necessarily.  For example, EVE Online was the 6th most profitable MMORPG in terms of revenue on the planet last year, but has just over 500,000 players (with a 45k-ish concurrency at peak on their single server).  Contrary to that, FFXIV:ARR has 2 million and didn't even rate in the top 10.
 
I'm sure everyone wants Wildstar to do better.  If they can change a few things, bring people back, and refill their extra servers, they'll be doing a lot better than they'd originally planned.
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Either way, it's all speculation and in all honesty, I'd rely on more basic business sense and the evidence with slower queue times, AH, pvp activity, etc.
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Evindra dominion side needs people so if you reroll...reroll there plz.   its super dead,
 
i realize there are some people who /z in housing but in the capital city i should see at least 1 message in 2 hours, i don't care the time of day.j
 
anyone who says it isn't on life support over on that side is lying for whatever reason.  i do nothing but bg anymore and im in the city or housing all day long...i sing to myself a lot every once in a blue moon someone will come /hug me.  
 
market doesn't have enough in it that everything is easily manipulated as well which sucks, 	
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It's hard to judge the whole game by PVP.  Exploiting in PVP matches pissed off a lot of people, so it's apparently doing particularly badly.  Most of those people are on the PTR right now playing with the new fixes.
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Evindra dominion side needs people so if you reroll...reroll there plz.   its super dead,
 
i realize there are some people who /z in housing but in the capital city i should see at least 1 message in 2 hours, i don't care the time of day.j
 
anyone who says it isn't on life support over on that side is lying for whatever reason.  i do nothing but bg anymore and im in the city or housing all day long...i sing to myself a lot every once in a blue moon someone will come /hug me.  
 
market doesn't have enough in it that everything is easily manipulated as well which sucks, 
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I agree, the enthusiasm for pvp has declined substantially and if it were the only indicator of population growth, I would agree with you. But on my server (rowsdower, I can't speak for others), auctions are coming back unsold, even with price cutting. Server specific events and situations are rare, etc. It seems if wildstar is growing it's really only on a select few servers, because a large amount of the playerbase has dropped off on a lot of other servers, or at least empirical evidence aside, that's how it appears.
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... wildstar is growing it's really only on a select few servers, because a large amount of the playerbase has dropped off on a lot of other servers ...
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Evindra Dominion side isn't as big as exile, but I still run over people all the time.  Last time I was in Wilderrun on Spenser, I had no issue putting five people together for the 5+ quest in a few minutes Dominion side.
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To be fair, if I dropped by the forums at all or listened to anything anyone said, I wouldn't go to Rowsdower either, even if the rest of the servers were on queues.  I have a feeling it'll be the last one that recovers if the population floods back in at this rate.
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Is kind of why every game I tend to gravitate to the "medium" servers at launch specifically RP servers. Least from my own experience they tend to be the ones to survive the "drop" after launch most often as the community is more stable and tighter knit, but also tends to draw in people that were on servers that are created due to queues.
 
 
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and not a single person was with my alt in whitevale for the 2 hours it took me to get 8k rep or so, or at least no one that would answer me in /z. 
 
regardless, just get an exile to thayd and see the difference, its staggering
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/advice is a global channel and I have *never* seen anyone abuse it.
 
I did see someone post a guild recruitment advert and get asked, politely by the community, to not use it for that. Recruiter promptly apologized.
 
I don't see why /advice couldn't be used to rally people for groups, even though that's not the original intention.	
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/advice is a global channel and I have *never* seen anyone abuse it.
 
I did see someone post a guild recruitment advert and get asked, politely by the community, to not use it for that. Recruiter promptly apologized.
 
I don't see why /advice couldn't be used to rally people for groups, even though that's not the original intention.
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New player here. I started two weeks ago when free 7 day trials were offered. I saw that Stormtalon had medium pop and rolled there as an female Aurin catgirl Stalker for maximum hatred-inducing powers in PvP.
 
Just kidding!
 
...Not really.
 
Anyway, I enjoy the game and have concluded that their marketing is TERRIBLE. I'm an experienced MMO player and I'm even friends with the father OF ONE OF THE ARTISTS AT CARBINE and I knew almost nothing about the game until I played it. If you can't reach me with information about critical elements of you game then you have a problem.
 
How do you reach out? The SAME WAY you got me interested: with a free trial. I learned about it via Kotaku, and there is no reason to not be running (and heavily promoting) such trials every single weekend. Many older MMO players won't even consider a new game without some kind of test run, and many of those people will have missed open beta (like me!).
 
I know that a lot of MMO players look down on marketing and "hype", but there is a lot of value in it nevertheless... if it's done right.	
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			Yes, carbine advertised for hardcore, but they advertised their hard core as challenging content not endless grinding. Most people also consider Hardcore as top tier raiding not raiding in general.	
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Yes, carbine advertised for hardcore, but they advertised their hard core as challenging content not endless grinding. Most people also consider Hardcore as top tier raiding not raiding in general.
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Not gonna lie. The only reason I'm still playing this game, especially on the Evindra server, is because of the fun and cool people I've met here. A lot of them are gone now, but there's still a small group that I really enjoy socializing and messing around with. I'm glad that raiding (despite still being a goal of mine) isn't actually why I play and like MMOs. Otherwise, I too would have easily quit by now. 
 
As for the "hardcore" difficulty of the game, I personally love it. It's honestly not even that bad, once you give it some patience and practice. It's been awhile since I've actually felt challenged in an MMO, and I can highly appreciate that. Still, it really is becoming increasingly tedious, rather than fun. On top of that, with the way people are constantly leaving, end game content is literally becoming impossible. 40-man raids? At this rate?? NEVER. GONNA. HAPPEN. 	
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This. Huge difference between hardcore and tedious. 
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Not sure that's accurate.
 
Who are they catering to? I guess that's the first point of discussion. I've not seen an official post by Carbine on the matter, but Wildstar has always been sold to me as a game for the hardcore.
Who are the hardcore? In my mind, it's the top guilds like Enigma, Voodoo, etc.
Who's doing all the complaining on the forums? Not the above.
 
In general, that is. There was the complaint from an Enigma raider about 40-mans and PPP (I would assume things got better after downing SD ;)), there was another complaint yesterday about gauntlets being crap.
But all in all I think the hardcore are having a lot of fun raiding, I personally love it.
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Indeed.  I'm also having a bunch of auctions continually coming back unsold on Evindra... don't think I've had anything at all sell in weeks.  One in specific was a pair of Slugthrowers (dropped of the rare spawn Excargo -- with a smidge over 1000 assault-power... I believe like 1048 AP or something).  Nice blue pistols, couple slots... at one point the going price (and they'd sell, I used to sell them semi-regularly) was 1 platinum.  A few weeks ago it kept coming back, so I'd put it up for less and less... 50g, then 25g, 10g, even 5g... never sold, ended up tossing it to a vendor for whatever they'd give me for it.  Other than that, I've been posting a lot of crafting materials... even undercutting prices regularly, anywhere from rune-fragments to basic materials like lumber and stones... nothing seems to be selling all that much sadly. :mellow:
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With every person who quits....
 
....there is less money for patches and content updates.
 
That can't be a good thing no matter what some you say.	
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With every person who quits....
 
....there is less money for patches and content updates.
 
That can't be a good thing no matter what some you say.
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You can send them to me.  All my auctions sold. :)  I'll take them off your hands.
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You're Dominion though right?  Isn't this like most MMOs, where Dominion have their own AH, and Exile have a separate AH?  (Yep, my exiles are on Evindra... don't recall what server I made my Doms on... barely play on them... not that I play all that much on my exiles these days either though.) :huh:
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You can send them to me.  All my auctions sold. :)  I'll take them off your hands.
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I hate to agree with Zombie... but Evindra has almost no economy. Bladeleaf on that server (example) is going for 10bronze each. On Orias, where my other toons are... it goes for between 50s - 1g each. All the time. I can't sell anything on Evindra for the life of me. 
 
I'm only still playing, because of the people, but at some point... even that won't be enough to keep me paying.
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I can't blame people for not knowing how to AH.  A lot of things get sold for beneath vendor pricing.  I spent an hour yesterday looking for those things, buying them off the AH, and vendoring them.  Made bank :D
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Please don't assume crap about me. I can use the AH just fine, thank you. I have no problems with selling anything on Orias. Also, not everyone wants to spend their playtime, flipping AH items. Some people enjoy that, other's don't. If I want to make cash, then I will jump into my harvesting circle, where I can, usually, generate about a plat an hour and a half, if I really want it. 
 
There is just no economy, it has nothing to do with something being "too damn stupid" to know how to use the thing. I can hop on Orias and see some herbs going for over a gold each. I do the same search on Evindra and see either 0 items of the same type listed, or there are few there at all, and only going for a few bronze. That is a fact. It has nothing to do with "not being able to AH."  :rolleyes:
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Perhaps because you made your snide remark about "not knowing how to AH" after quoting me? Referring to me was exactly how it came across. 
 
Eh, done here. I don't come to the forums to be insulted, though I *really* shouldn't expect anything different by now.	
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Perhaps because you made your snide remark about "not knowing how to AH" after quoting me? Referring to me was exactly how it came across. 
 
Eh, done here. I don't come to the forums to be insulted, though I *really* shouldn't expect anything different by now.
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This is just my generalization about the game and any MMO in general, so take it for what it's worth. With every 1 person that quits Wildstar, there will probably be at least 1 or 2 more people that sign on too play.... but I could be wrong.
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Perhaps because you made your snide remark about "not knowing how to AH" after quoting me? Referring to me was exactly how it came across. 
 
Eh, done here. I don't come to the forums to be insulted, though I *really* shouldn't expect anything different by now.
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 Population has less to do with the economy at this point than does the specific crafters / farmers on your server. 
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This is actually true. I know I'm personally responsible for a few price hikes since I rerolled on another server a few weeks ago. ;)
 
@Ael: Come on, Vic really isn't someone who loves to dish out "snide remarks". I don't think anything was meant to be insulting/belittling here. ;>_>
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Nobody on Exile side on Evindra was giving me an opportunity today.  You've got to watch it, because some people got wise to my antics.  They like to have one or more items below price, but then the next bunch are above.  I tend to check the price of a stack of 20, see if it's beneath what I can vendor it for, and if it is, I buy it and either flip it or sell it to the vendor.  It's good to do if you're selling your own commodities (and commodities are where it's at in this game, it seems).  If you see your competition below the vendor price, click over and see how much you can buy and resell for.
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Why do you say "Exile side" though if the CX is cross-faction?  :huh: 
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I wasn't aware it was cross faction.  TBH, I never checked :(  I just sold stuff and bought stuff.  I didn't know we were trading with the filthy [insert name of other faction here].
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Yep. I'm guessing the CX is run by Protostar, and they just dooooon't care. They'd even trade with the Entity.
 
...for profit. 
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Yeah, I checked.  Nobody on Exile side on Evindra was giving me an opportunity today.  You've got to watch it, because some people got wise to my antics.  They like to have one or more items below price, but then the next bunch are above.  I tend to check the price of a stack of 20, see if it's beneath what I can vendor it for, and if it is, I buy it and either flip it or sell it to the vendor.  It's good to do if you're selling your own commodities (and commodities are where it's at in this game, it seems).  If you see your competition below the vendor price, click over and see how much you can buy and resell for.
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With every person that quits:
 
That's one less person we need to listen to *cupcake* about a two month old game, because it doesn't have the same features that a 10 years old game does.
 
 
 
I count that as a win.
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Woah woah woah. You can actually buy stacks of 20? Every time I go that high, I get a message telling me that it can't fill my order, along with some bullshit about maybe someone bought it right before me. The CX buying process is maddening.
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It depends. Usually, yes. I kind of think there's a threshold in place, because I do get that message and it IS annoying.
 
However, it also helpfully points out how much it will cost, and it doesn't always match up with the price of the cheapest x the number that I've seen. I always assumed it was built to handle buyouts like that, but they never implemented it correctly.
 
Anyone with more knowledge on the subject can feel free to correct me. I never turn down new game knowledge! :)
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Woah woah woah. You can actually buy stacks of 20? Every time I go that high, I get a message telling me that it can't fill my order, along with some bullshit about maybe someone bought it right before me. The CX buying process is maddening.
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I and my characters' bank accounts would profusely thank anyone with a good workaround for easily finding that magic stack number.
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Woah woah woah. You can actually buy stacks of 20? Every time I go that high, I get a message telling me that it can't fill my order, along with some bullshit about maybe someone bought it right before me. The CX buying process is maddening.
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So today I logged onto wildstar for the first time in 1 week. I took a break because of frustration with the pvp issues. I didn't tell any of my guild mates. Just decided to take a break.
I am the gm. I logged on today expecting to see in the guild status that tons of folks had quit my guild. 
Instead what I saw was that.. 99.99% of the entire guild who was still playing.. All had shockingly not logged onto Wildstar in one week. We had without talking to each other had done exactly the same thing.  IF carbine is not concerned about the activity level of players in all servers.. I can only say that the future of Wildstar is definitely in danger.	
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Woah woah woah. You can actually buy stacks of 20? Every time I go that high, I get a message telling me that it can't fill my order, along with some bullshit about maybe someone bought it right before me. The CX buying process is maddening.
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Just had to pipe in.,. Evindra is an amazing server with plenty of very active guilds.Exile side is extremely populated. Great Server!
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Woah woah woah. You can actually buy stacks of 20? Every time I go that high, I get a message telling me that it can't fill my order, along with some bullshit about maybe someone bought it right before me. The CX buying process is maddening.
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You have to adjust the minimum price in the buy now window
 
Lets say you want to buy 100 of an item...you search for that item in the buy now and the price defaults to 5silver per unit.  The first 20 items are selling for 4 silver, the next 20 are selling for 4.5 silver, the next 60 items are selling for 6 silver.  But you see you wont know those individual prices because there is no display for it.  If you try to buy 100 of that item you will get the error message.  If you lower the quantity to 50 you will still see the error message.  But once you lower the quantity to 40 you will get a successful purchase because you have just bought the stack of 20 for 4.5 silver each and the stack of 20 for 4.5 silver each. The stack of 60 that is priced at 6 silver each is what is causing the error.  So lets say that instead you put the quantity at 100 but you change the minimum price from 5 silver to 7 silver. Once you do that then you will successfuly purchase a full stack of 100 of that item.  You bought the 20 stack at 4.5 silver each, the 20 stack at 4.5 silver each and the 60 stack at 6 silver each.  You were able to buy all 100 of them because you raised how much you were willing to pay per unit from 5 silver up to 7 silver.
 
make sense?
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I actually just re-rolled a character on Evindra this afternoon...despite having 2 characters at lvl 18-20 and taking my time I was concerned about what would happen later on down the line in the game. I am casual in this game and while I am willing to learn I was concerned about how patient other players would be when it came to thing like dungeons & adventures and such...
 
I think the server community attitude plays a role in how dead or active the server seems and I was not really sure about this game with a subscription etc etc as to whether I would get anything out of it. During my 2 months on my original server it was pretty much hit or miss. I can recall a few times where people asked for assistance with a quest or bounty etc etc and people responded. I've also seen times where people would ask for help for like 30-40 mins and get no help. I had one such incident where I asked for assistance with a bounty, got no response....stood their staring at the beastie I needed to kill....and literally 5 mins after I asked for help someone came in and just started wailing on it and I got lucky to get a shot in to get credit. There have been many times when it has been silent in the chat (yes I know....starter zones 2 months after launch but still you expect more noise).
 
However, many people on these forums from Evindra seem to share many of the same ideas and have the same overall attitude about the game that I do so hopefully once I get going it will greatly improve my experience. So, should you happen to be wandering Evindra and see this exile spellslinger dodging and backflipping into places he has no business dodging or backflipping into & generally running around like a chicken with his head cutoff fell free to stop....laugh at the putz and say hello...
 
I'm hoping the game sticks around because I do genuinely have fun when I play...	
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RP servers have the longest lives of any server for 2 reasons.
 
 
1) RP'ers are too busy in Goldshire Inn to level up at any decent pace, and therefore never see the bugs and issues the game faces at endgame, until a year after they've all been fixed. (others would say they 'enjoy the freedom of content without pressure to conform' or some jazz)
 
2) Due to the nature of RP being limited only by player's imaginations and stocks of Robes and Wizard Hats, there is a near infinite amount of content to consume on a RP server, as it is constantly player generated. (which beats the whole 'i got nothing to do, i beat the game' feeling others would run into at a certain stage.)	
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I'd love to give the RP community a try instead of my current server, but I'm not payin' $20 to shuffle some bits around.
 
I'll just stop playing entirely.
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well our housing zone is very active, our cities however are meh, hopefully we can get more ppl to join ;)
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Indeed & Agreed... it's why so many laugh and roll their eyes when they see forum posts of, "Don't like it?  Leave... there's the door, nobody's stopping you".  I even have a little meme I've made for Wildstar that reads, "Wildstar: Everybody that doesn't like it should pack up their junk and JUST LEAVE!  ...Hey, wait, where'd everybody go!?" :lol:
 
I mean, it is kind of mind-blowing ironic... first month and a half or so, had been a rage-storm of forum-posts telling all those that are unhappy to just leave, nobody wanted them here... the next month and a half after that, has been everybody asking where everybody went and why populations are ghost-towns, etc... rofl. :D
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Or, since the housing is technically accessible through the cities, allow the housing zones to share Zone chat with the cities.
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