126499-morning-coffee-521-carrots-and-collectibles-edition

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Mmm. Carrot juice.
 
So today's subject is a riff on the Carrot Thread.
 
Collecting is a big part of many player's game-style. I like costumes. Some folks like pets. Others like to collect Mounts, or Lore bits, or toys ... It's a fun way to pass the time and add value to the entire gaming experience.
 
So, I have a couple of questions:
 
1. What do you like to collect? Do you want it all "right now" or are you okay with a lengthy collection process? How do you feel about the coolest looking collectibles being gated behind content that you might not enjoy?
 
2. How do you feel about sharing your knowledge with others? If you discovered the location of a rare or hidden drop, would you share that information or keep it to yourself? Would you purposefully mislead or mock other players who were also seeking the same reward?	
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Mornin' Tex, 
 
To answer your questions, I like collecting achievements. I'm an achievement nutjob and a gaming completionist. I play the game to see the whole game (thus why I'm big into progression raiding). I also really like collecting mounts. I don't mind certain collectibles being gated behind certain content, but I also like almost all the content in this game. I do like the idea of some titles and mounts being exclusive to big in game achievements, as kind of a cosmetic award for those who raid/pvp/do housing for more than just gear. 
 
As for knowledge sharing, I get both sides of the equation. I might tell someone in whispers or in guild where they can find something, but I'm not going to post it up publicly and ruin the fun of the search for those who still might want to hunt for it. 	
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I've got the Melting Pot plug on my housing plot. Any blazing Saddles or friends of the guild are welcome to add me as a neighbor and use it to your hearts' content. Magic Moo. Hit me up.
 
I don't really collect stuff in real life, unless you count the shelves of books at my house. In game I don't usually collect anything although I am saving up renown right now for the Exile Commander costume because it is pretty cool.
 
If I were the first to find something that a lot of people are searching for I would keep it to myself just long enough to make sure people knew I got it first, then I'd share the info. I definitely wouldn't mislead people as to where it was for my own amusement; that's a pretty dick move.
 
As for pets in game, I'm happy with my Lopp Deputy. I did actually go looking for the carrot for the express purpose of sharing the info if I found it once I realized that some people were deliberately misleading others, but some nice people beat me to it.
 
As you can see here I am about to be the world first owner of 100 platypi: https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/126384-feedback-game-update-19-may-2015/page-2&do=findComment&comment=1322352
 
The trick is to use all caps in your posts. Probably helps if you have a group of 5 just to cover all of the standard tropes (fix this now, ded gaem, etc). In my case I was able to get gold just by complaining about Star Comm Basin and the platypi were a random drop from that.	
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I love collecting lore bits and exploring as much as I can.  I'm also a fan of mount collecting, but I'm not as big in this game about it as I am in WoW.  I'm a bit of an achievement hunter, but I don't stress myself out about it.  I'm getting a little bit TOO into the outfit system though.  Debating leveling and grinding out a full stalker pvp set just for the outfit >_>;
 
I would 100% share info with people about anything though.  ESPECIALLY with wildstar.  There's a bit of a lack of info out there that's readily available, or if it is out there, it's tough to find!  I would love to help spread knowlage about the fun little things in the game to other players.	
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Well, Brother Moo, I've got a four day weekend on tap. I'm gonna get me that Lopp - and maybe we can set up some Melting Pot runs this weekend. Ooooh, I bet we could charge people for "the Chance to Win This Great Pet, Plus You Get to Hang Out With Forum Superstars Tex and Phandaal!"
 
I bet we could make a silver piece. Maybe two. :lol:	
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Well, Brother Moo, I've got a four day weekend on tap. I'm gonna get me that Lopp - and maybe we can set up some Melting Pot runs this weekend. Ooooh, I bet we could charge people for "the Chance to Win This Great Pet, Plus You Get to Hang Out With Forum Superstars Tex and Phandaal!"
 
I bet we could make a silver piece. Maybe two. :lol:
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I love collecting lore bits and exploring as much as I can.  I'm also a fan of mount collecting, but I'm not as big in this game about it as I am in WoW.  I'm a bit of an achievement hunter, but I don't stress myself out about it.  I'm getting a little bit TOO into the outfit system though.  Debating leveling and grinding out a full stalker pvp set just for the outfit >_>;
 
 
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Good morning everyone!
 
So I personally like collecting costumes and mounts. I prefer them to be at least some what of a challenge to get. Make it more fun and rewarding to me.
 
As for it being gated behind something I don't enjoy doing I am kinda on the fence about it. Depends on the activity its gated behind.
 
When it comes to sharing inside info I am all about it. I wrote walkthroughs and streamed almost everything for the last 2 mmos I played.( hoping to get to that point with wildstar here shortly).
 
In other wildstar related content I tanked STL last it was amazing never had that much fun tanking in a mmo.	
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Judging by my recent post history it should be pretty obvious which camp I'm in. While I feel bad for those who truly wanted to discover it themselves, I felt worse for all those who desperately wanted something and were being kept out of the loop. Considering the means of acquisition have little to do with carrots to begin with, it's such a long shot that most people would have discovered the pet organically (ohoho). 
 
I feel worst for my poor cat and what I made her go through last night. Sorry, Taco.	
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Judging by my recent post history it should be pretty obvious which camp I'm in. While I feel bad for those who truly wanted to discover it themselves, I felt worse for all those who desperately wanted something and were being kept out of the loop. Considering the means of acquisition have little to do with carrots to begin with, it's such a long shot that most people would have discovered the pet organically (ohoho). 
 
I feel worst for my poor cat and what I made her go through last night. Sorry, Taco.
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I like to collect outfits in game.. 6 costume slots isn't enough.
 
 
Also almost beloved with Defile need moar ability points!	
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In other wildstar related content I tanked STL last it was amazing never had that much fun tanking in a mmo.
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I am a serious collector in real life (paperweights, cone seashells, 3-D postcards, antique lithographs, brass hose nozzles, many more...) and on Wildstar began collecting dyes from the get-go.  Had gotten EVERY one, doing challenges, farming, killing critters, etc. right before the major dye system changed and felt completely crushed after all my months and months of hard work were obliterated, depriving me of my well-earned success of having them all.  Now everyone can just buy every dye and don't have to work for them.  Now,, with the new content, I am collecting pets, although I realize I will never get some of them because I'm not a big raider nor do I participate in PvP.  Still, doing the challenges,, world events and farming for a couple of them has been very fun, so I'm grateful for the new fun companions.  I have most of the mounts except the new Contract ones and hope to get those if Carbine makes it a little easier to obtain them.  So far, I have been awarded 100 Elder Gems for TWO rounds of working really hard to complete two Tier 5 Contracts!!  I am VERY disappointed that I didn't get one of the many "FABULOUS" prizes that Carbine promises when you choose the goodie bag for tier 5 completion.  Anyone else getting frustrated with the crappy prizes????  100 Elder Gems for six days of hauling butt to complete all those contracts??????  HUGE letdown!!!  Sighs.  Otherwise, I truly do love the game and appreciate most of the elements of it.
 
P.S.  If you want to try for the Party Lopp pet, I have the Lopp FabKit on my housing plot and have set it to PUBLIC ALLOWED, so feel free to come give it a whirl... and also to enjoy my collection of EYES and a fun pillow jumping course I made that goes high into the sky.  My character name is Nursie Purrs and my plot name is TheEyesHaveIt.	
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I collect as many things as I can get my hands on - looks, dyes, pets, achieves, mounts... anything else that's possibly collectible... xD And I'm pretty open with information if I find something new - got no real interest in having some exclusive hold over an item. May as well spread the love!
 
I hope I can get some play time in today, but things are not looking good. Yesterday was filled with various IRL chores and things and today, with Comicpalooza right around the corner, is looking no different. Have to drive into downtown to pick up our pro-badges (no small task on its own, given this city's size lol), on top of getting a new dolly (old one just went kaput), continuing work on costumes, oh and... trying to get the sweetest little stray kitty to hang around long enough that I can take her to the vet and/or a no-kill shelter. @.@ She is breaking my heart being out there.
 
Perhaps in the evening, though! The question, is what would I do... contracts and dailies? Level my engineer? Work on my housing plot? Level my Dominion? Aaaah choices. @.@	
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I collect everything. Mounts, pets, outfits, useless items that I can waste bank slots with and link 4 years from now in e-peen waving contests...you know...important stuff.  :lol:
 
I'm just coming back to Wildstar after letting it simmer in the pot since launch and now it's finally a game for me. Solo and small group forms of end game, lots of things to collect, and classes I didn't find fun before are suddenly my new go to classes.
 
My new Esper main will have all of the carrots and lopps and GlitterKitty boards they can toss out there. Gotta catch em all.	
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....Anyone else getting frustrated with the crappy prizes???? ....
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yep, I am.
 
Coming up on my next tier 5 reward and I am dreading yet another disappointment !
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yep, I am.
 
Coming up on my next tier 5 reward and I am dreading yet another disappointment !
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I wonder, at which point, game designers will figure out the randomness isn't fun or compelling game play.
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Got a new shield for my T5 reward yay... blew fluxes rerolling slots /desk flip... sigh I had to go with a gamble..
 
So far the T5 rewards have been beneficial to me.	
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I think some randomness is fun and compelling as it adds excitement...
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Aaaah I love pho! :D
 
I've only reached the t5 reward once, but it was a pretty solid upgrade to the support system I had been using, and the t4 one actually gave me a better shirt (and especially so after I can run vet skullcano to get the imbuement).	
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I think our ideas of "excitement" are pretty different. :lol:
 
Of course, I'm excited that I get to have Pho for lunch ... and that's just noodle soup.
 
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I think some randomness is fun and compelling as it adds excitement. It's a balance- too much RNG is frustrating. Not any is stale and boring. That's my opinion anyway.
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I think our ideas of "excitement" are pretty different. :lol:
 
Of course, I'm excited that I get to have Pho for lunch ... and that's just noodle soup.
 
 
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RNG is a spice that must be used sparingly. Here it was treated as the main course. They've gotten a little better but still have a ways to go to shake their RNG addiction.
 
My first T5 I won the lottery and got a chest-piece with enough mainstat that put it close enough to my crafted one that the added power of the runeslots more than made up for. The shoulders I got last night from my second one... well it got split between mainstat and a secondary which would have been a huge loss over my Epochos shoulders. By all rights Epochos should be consolation gear yet I couldn't find an Aventus piece that surpassed it.
 
If there's anything I collect it's cosmetics (outfits, dyes) but only so that I can mix-n-match. I'm a little irritated that the "War-forged" title was a one time thing that required rated battleground rating. At least I can shoot for the "Technomage" title.
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Take that raw beef out, toss in an excessive amount of sriracha (or spicy chili sauce of a different sort) and some hoisin sauce and I'm in.
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As I've mentioned before I got a purple with 57 less main stat than my Lv 55 blue before. That one is the worst offender so far but I'm surprised it even made it through the RNG process.
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As I've mentioned before I got a purple with 57 less main stat than my Lv 55 blue before. That one is the worst offender so far but I'm surprised it even made it through the RNG process.
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Was it a support system or weapon attachment? The support systems and weapon attachments in GA are itemized without main stat at all, prioritizing assault power and secondary stats.
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Probably, I don't remember exactly. Thing is the support power gain wasn't even close to offsetting the loss in main stat and milestones (it was maybe +9 support power), nor were the runes the right type to make up for it. I guess if my other gear were GA quality I'd be ok with dropping a bit, but that's not the kind of person who's gonna be looking at contract gear for an upgrade.
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All hail the RNGods
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eh...I think this pretty much sums up the reward bag....
 
It's pretty awful that RNG...
 
As for collecting....
 
I like to collect things I just think look or are cool to me. I mainly collect figurines and statuettes(even if i don't know anything about the show its from). However in games and in particular wildstar it's all aesthetic mostly.
 
The holo wardrobe actually has had me looking around and pushing me to level alts to get certain armor.
 
The pets on the other hand I love skeech and they're pretty easy to get so I was set. Any other pets I get I offer to other people I know looking for them. In the case of the carrot thing I did some searching and tried to help mainly just proving that some "clues" weren't real to help narrow things down.
 
Personally I just outright share information of things I discover if I know people are interested and looking. I guess because in art community we often share tips and tricks on various approaches and different ways to use software/tools to make stuff we may not otherwise have thought of ourself that it's just ingrained in me.	
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			The current level of RNG for the content I'm focused on right now (GA) feels pretty good to me. I can't really speak much about any other content (DS, contracts, whatever). The tokens give you a pretty good shot of seeing gear get used and not salvaged, we see upgrades going to people at an even clip, and there's glory gear people can farm to get. Most slots are useful, but you can change them out if you need to. Less RNG than what is in right now would just make GA a schedule grind where you do it x number of times to get y piece of gear. At the moment, there's the anticipation of what drops and who is gonna get a little bump in stats.	
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			The only RNG I don't like is the challenge RNG. Why even attempt to get times 10 chance when it doesn't feel like it affects the outcome.	
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1. In real life, I collect a few types of things. I like to collect figurines from video games I like, Sanrio items, and Monster High dolls! In games, I pretty much collect anything that's pink. If it's pink in game, I will probably own it or quest it haha. I understand gating but it's bothering me a bit because it feels like I can't start collecting until I'm near the cap. I wish I could collect as I level up because I really don't want to power level. So far there is only one pet I immediately know I have access to in one of the Shiphands. I like taking my time with games and getting there when I get there. I wish the process was just more rewarding. That being said, in regards to pets, I've got my eye on that Cotton Candy Rowsdower :D I also would love the Carrot Sproutling! I got the Glitter Kitty from the box set that sparked me to start playing and that's pretty much the only mount I wanted. c: I REALLY want to collect costumes!
 
2. I'm not sure where the mocking attitude comes from? Usually cheat codes and hidden locations is information that's just freely given with entire sites devoted to them haha. People actually try to make better sources of information and one up each other that way. I had never seen a "I know where it is and you don't" before this Carrot. I just I don't see the point? Someone's going to figure it out and tell everyone anyway. Maybe that short time when you're the only one who knows is some major confidence boost? But likewise, if that's the standard for confidence boosts... :x	
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1. What do you like to collect? Do you want it all "right now" or are you okay with a lengthy collection process? How do you feel about the coolest looking collectibles being gated behind content that you might not enjoy?
 
2. How do you feel about sharing your knowledge with others? If you discovered the location of a rare or hidden drop, would you share that information or keep it to yourself? Would you purposefully mislead or mock other players who were also seeking the same reward?
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Not much of a collector here, though Remil's ship home is decorated with a near complete art collection of all the covers of Tales from Beyond the Fringe.  I am missing one from The Defile.  They moved the TALES keys too!  There were 3 beyond the Lightspire lockout zone when I went to get it.  I didn't exactly jump on Defile when it dropped due to experimenting with that *other* MMO, but that trifling didn't last long and I got back.  Well the event wasn't ever going when I was around, but I could see the TALES keys via Perspective beyond the locked ridge.  
 
They're not there anymore.  AND I found one that was marked unread that I know I read before (very memorable location, up on the ridge over the spider valley that you use the web mechanic to get to.).  So... there's one more somewhere in the Defile that I have no idea where it is, then I can add that cover to my art collection.  I also have heads of Ohmna, Stormtalon, and Trogun and have spaces reserved for Mordechai and Selene.
 
And, I think maybe they moved it because of me too.  I submitted a /bug report suggesting that lore documentaiton not be locked behind event walls... so be careful what you wish for I guess ;-).
 
(If anyone IS actually curious about the art gallery, the home is public on Exile-Entity.)
 
Last night was Init Core work, though was greatly distracted due to a good friend and longtime raid member being out with serious medical issues.  Did a little DS minis too.  Tanking Initcore is kind of boring for about 2/3rds, then LOLWTFBBQ!!!11!!.  Haven't seen that enough to get a feel for how to best deal with it.  Always seems to go to the robbit that I'm not on.
 
Tonight, GA farm.  Hopefully we can rock the house like last week and get it done in a night.
 
Oh, obligatory question 2.  I am an inveterate information sharer (if anyone hadn't figured it out already.)  I can appreciate some friendly hinting without a reveal if something WERE found like that especially if it was known that the person liked the puzzle as much as the result, but it's shameful to mock about that I think and I don't think it shows much character.  	
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I guess I could call myself a collector of dyes, and I'm debating on trying to collect mounts as well (just got the luminous equivar last night from my love. Best person ever <3)
As far as irl, I'm a heavy ccg player so I have collections of pokemon, mlp, Shadow era, and tons of magic cards around the house. Goal today is to start the process of trimming down the mtg collection. I'll probably bulk sell off the fluff on ebay or something.
 
As for your 2nd question: I'd just tell people outright. I'd get satisfaction knowing I was the first to get it, but post a new thread like "OMG I FOUND OUT WHERE TO GET _____!!!!!" and be all excited that others can finally get it too :D
 
Feeling like an awesome hero is better imo than a crappy elitist.	
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My name is Vince, and I like customization.  Right now, I'm collecting an assortment of costume items that I really like the look of, as well as dyes.  If Wildstar puts account-wide dyes in a cash shop...  well, despite me crusading against a cash shop, that's what I'll ultimately spend money on.  I've got some pretty fantastic collections on both my mains, and I love tinkering with dye channels.  I blew 2 plat yesterday after BeattleBilly so generously gave me Ichorous Orange.  That dye mixes so, so well with Gamescon Blue-Purple.  Being a man of little game time, I do like a short path between me & my desired shiny, but if I really want something I have no qualms with dumping out my free time in pursuit of it.
 
If I find something super rare -- undiscovered, even, the first thing I'm gonna do is see if what I just did was an actual repro (way of reproducing the occurrence) or if it was a fluke.  If I have a confirmed repro, I'm gonna post that up wherever I can so other folks are spared the grind and/or frustration.  I've actually received more new hate mail on my new Reddit account for posting how and where to get the Carrot Sproutling, but I really couldn't give less of a shit.  People tell me I've spoiled the hunt, but all you have to do is... not read guides on how to get it.  There's a huge difference between searching for an item and finding it, and finding an item but not helping those who ask for assistance in getting it.  Even worse is posting misleading bullshit when people really truly just want to know.
 
And to you fine souls who've sent me Reddit hate mail for "spoiling your fun":  Keep the hate coming.  I'm positive posts like mine helped more folks than they pissed off.	
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My name is Vince, and I like customization.  Right now, I'm collecting an assortment of costume items that I really like the look of, as well as dyes.  If Wildstar puts account-wide dyes in a cash shop...  well, despite me crusading against a cash shop, that's what I'll ultimately spend money on.  I've got some pretty fantastic collections on both my mains, and I love tinkering with dye channels.  I blew 2 plat yesterday after BeattleBilly so generously gave me Ichorous Orange.  That dye mixes so, so well with Gamescon Blue-Purple.  Being a man of little game time, I do like a short path between me & my desired shiny, but if I really want something I have no qualms with dumping out my free time in pursuit of it.
 
If I find something super rare -- undiscovered, even, the first thing I'm gonna do is see if what I just did was an actual repro (way of reproducing the occurrence) or if it was a fluke.  If I have a confirmed repro, I'm gonna post that up wherever I can so other folks are spared the grind and/or frustration.  I've actually received more new hate mail on my new Reddit account for posting how and where to get the Carrot Sproutling, but I really couldn't give less of a shit.  People tell me I've spoiled the hunt, but all you have to do is... not read guides on how to get it.  There's a huge difference between searching for an item and finding it, and finding an item but not helping those who ask for assistance in getting it.  Even worse is posting misleading bullshit when people really truly just want to know.
 
And to you fine souls who've sent me Reddit hate mail for "spoiling your fun":  Keep the hate coming.  I'm positive posts like mine helped more folks than they pissed off.
 
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People were actually giving you crap about posting the method for getting the carrot?
 
I just checked the reddit out... damn why did I do that. I enjoy how people are ragging on Towelliee for not playing the game, when he himself has stated that he wants to stream it but can't make a living doing so because of how few viewers he gets. Yet, that's somehow Towelliee's fault. Priceless.
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I've actually received more new hate mail on my new Reddit account for posting how and where to get the Carrot Sproutling, but I really couldn't give less of a shit.  People tell me I've spoiled the hunt, but all you have to do is... not read guides on how to get it.  There's a huge difference between searching for an item and finding it, and finding an item but not helping those who ask for assistance in getting it.  Even worse is posting misleading bullshit when people really truly just want to know.
 
And to you fine souls who've sent me Reddit hate mail for "spoiling your fun":  Keep the hate coming.  I'm positive posts like mine helped more folks than they pissed off.
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The irony is that most of them are complaining about it in topics with titles like "HERE'S HOW YOU GET THE CARROT." And as a major proponent of information-sharing, I have to say that the LFG channel when people finally spread the word... Well, you could have supplied an entire country with the salt from that mine. Lots of words like "deserve" and "earn" and "work" thrown around, ignoring the fact that aside from one legitimate clue, people were purposefully spreading misinformation for days. To be fair, some people might have had it spoiled for them through in-game chat, which is pretty unavoidable.
 
As I said, the location of the pet is so obscure that most people haven't even heard of the expedition, let alone seen it in-game at any point. It's not really all that related to carrots or veggies, aside from the very broad connection that they're food and the instance is about food. A lot of posts have said things along the line of "I tried this expedition a few times and didn't get the pet, so I moved on." So let's be honest for a second: if you were actually hunting this thing legitimately, would you actually have returned to a place where you tried something several times and it didn't work? Probably not. More likely that you would have gone on to check new locations and test new theories, leaving the pet unfound forever. Considering how low the drop rate seems to be, it's lucky that Palmtop even got one and sparked this whole discussion in the first place, otherwise we'd all still be clueless.
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Man, having to run a bugged event with 5 people for a decent shot at getting a chance at the carrot is work enough.
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I am a mount collector, the rarer the better. even though that means I may never get the prize :D  although less of a mount collector in WIldstar, I'm not a big fan of hoverboards. Mordesh look silly on them IMO. and female draken on a hoverboard OMG NO
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The irony is that most of them are complaining about it in topics with titles like "HERE'S HOW YOU GET THE CARROT." And as a major proponent of information-sharing, I have to say that the LFG channel when people finally spread the word... Well, you could have supplied an entire country with the salt from that mine. Lots of words like "deserve" and "earn" and "work" thrown around, ignoring the fact that aside from one legitimate clue, people were purposefully spreading misinformation for days. To be fair, some people might have had it spoiled for them through in-game chat, which is pretty unavoidable.
 
As I said, the location of the pet is so obscure that most people haven't even heard of the expedition, let alone seen it in-game at any point. It's not really all that related to carrots or veggies, aside from the very broad connection that they're food and the instance is about food. A lot of posts have said things along the line of "I tried this expedition a few times and didn't get the pet, so I moved on." So let's be honest for a second: if you were actually hunting this thing legitimately, would you really have returned to a place where you tried something several times and it didn't work? Probably not. More likely that you would have gone on to check new locations and test new theories, leaving the pet unfound forever. Considering how low the drop rate seems to be, it's lucky that Palmtop even got one and sparked this whole discussion in the first place, otherwise we'd all still be clueless.
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Still getting hate on Reddit from people who say I've "spoiled the hunt."  So basically, to me, that means that anyone who posted this information would be spoiling the hunt and they just want a reason to harp at me.
 
Whatever, man.  Do not care.  If it wasn't me, it was gonna be someone else, and they'd be kvetching at them.	
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Still getting hate on Reddit from people who say I've "spoiled the hunt."  So basically, to me, that means that anyone who posted this information would be spoiling the hunt and they just want a reason to harp at me.
 
Whatever, man.  Do not care.  If it wasn't me, it was gonna be someone else, and they'd be kvetching at them.
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Not so HEROIC now, eh??? (couldn't resist)
 
I was actually surprised and impressed at how reasonable you and Palmtop were in your posts to each other.
 
Also, for reals, reddit is literally the worst place on the internet. Yes, I am including 4chan in that comparison.
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It just gets better and better.  I guess posting helpful information will "spoil it" for everyone.  *cupcake* me for trying to be helpful, right?
 
People wonder why the WS community is considered elitist.  Wanna know why?  Go look at the carrot thread on Reddit.	
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The expedition is also bugged. You can no longer cool the pot down while it's cooking. So you have to enter it as a group and run as fast as humanly possible to put the ingredients in to even get silver, much less gold.
 
I have one on my plot, used to gold it for chuckles when I was bored prior to drop 5. Not anymore! Now it's a mini raid event.
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It just gets better and better.  I guess posting helpful information will "spoil it" for everyone.  *cupcake* me for trying to be helpful, right?
 
People wonder why the WS community is considered elitist.  Wanna know why?  Go look at the carrot thread on Reddit.
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It just gets better and better.  I guess posting helpful information will "spoil it" for everyone.  *cupcake* me for trying to be helpful, right?
 
People wonder why the WS community is considered elitist.  Wanna know why?  Go look at the carrot thread on Reddit.
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It just gets better and better.  I guess posting helpful information will "spoil it" for everyone.  *cupcake* me for trying to be helpful, right?
 
People wonder why the WS community is considered elitist.  Wanna know why?  Go look at the carrot thread on Reddit.
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