100491-suggestion-make-a-consolidated-i-quit-thread

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Everytime I see a thread about someone leaving, or considering leaving get locked with a "Thanks for your feedback!" it just kind of reeks and rubs me the wrong way.
 
So why not just let there be a consolidated thread for it, like every other issue seems to get treated? That way the forum isn't cluttered with it and people have a place to vent their frustrations/say goodbye.
 
Then the feedback might actually stay visible, instead of being inta-locked and fading into obscurity.	
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			'Thanks for your feedback' is code for "go cupcake yourself with a cactus".	
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			Moderators could put a format that people would follow too.  Questions that people would answer like why are you quitting, what do you think we could do to make it better, what would make you come back, questions like that.  And of course allow people to leave their additional comments.  Anybody that doesnt abide by the format or that doesnt leave useful feedback should have their post deleted.  Anybody that posts stuff like "good!!! go back to wow we dont need you" would also have their post deleted.  As long as it was a thread where useful feedback is left that might be good.  OR if there is already a form that people fill out when they cancel a sub that works too.	
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'Thanks for your feedback' is code for "go cupcake yourself with a cactus".
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'Thanks for your feedback' is code for "go cupcake yourself with a cactus".
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Some random schmuck you've never met walks up to you and goes "I have problems with *list* so I'm leaving, goodbye.", what do you do?
90% of "I'm leaving" threads list out stupid/already 50m posts about said crap, 8% list out good, insightful crap, 2% go all "i hat ppl an am leevn gudbai five ever".
"Thanks for your crappy feedback you stupid monkey" sounds a teensy bit more harsh than "Thanks for your feedback, I'm going to lock this so the fight can't get too ugly".	
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			the devs do read their feedback. the threads just get locked to avoid the following 500 'Can i have your stuff??' posts. 	
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Some random schmuck you've never met walks up to you and goes "I have problems with *list* so I'm leaving, goodbye.", what do you do?
90% of "I'm leaving" threads list out stupid/already 50m posts about said crap, 8% list out good, insightful crap, 2% go all "i hat ppl an am leevn gudbai five ever".
"Thanks for your crappy feedback you stupid monkey" sounds a teensy bit more harsh than "Thanks for your feedback, I'm going to lock this so the fight can't get too ugly".
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Well the suggestion is to stop there being "50m posts about said crap." Though no idea who is making posts that are 50 metres long, that seems a bit excessive.
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			I quit threads in the Open forums flat out shouldn't be allowed or encouraged. Giving them a special place just paints a target on both the people who decide to use it, and the people who don't. After a decade and a half of MMO gaming and extensive participation in the forums for at least two MMOs, I can say I have never ever seen a good I quit thread that started and ended constructively, with good conversation in the majority of replies.There's no point to them. If devs need information on why people are leaving they will implement an exit survey, or mail out an "what would make you come back" survey. Forum posts are going to be nearly useless for the kind of data they'd need to make plans to regain those players that have left.	
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You almost didn't fail.
 
Do not insert token
Do not try again
 
Badbye. ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ
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It would make it a Graveyard of Heroes of those who have departed.
 
Quite Sombre.	
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It would make it a Graveyard of Heroes of those who have departed.
 
Quite Sombre.
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Someone who's not me should go through the I Quit threads and compile the names that we may construct a memorial.
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I nominate you to be the Bearer of the Fallen.
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But there are 17 thousand topics :(
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Hi Folks,
 
Just as a quick response - we do lock these threads and pass on the information, they're locked for the reason that someone mentioned above, to prevent a lot of the community fallout that happens when someone makes these types of posts. We're not trying to dismiss the player, and we certainly hope they return. There's not a lot more that can be said once someone has made the decision to leave and explained their reasoning. It's never our intention to hurt feelings by thanking someone for their feedback, and I'm sorry if you've inferred that from the replies. 
 
 
- Team WildStar 	
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			I would support this idea if and only if people weren't allowed to post in said thread with an active subscription.	
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Never understood the point of an "I quit" thread. 
When I quit I just quit. Take my wallet and go somewhere else.
If I wish for things to be rectified I'll make a post about that in the relevant forumthread (or bump allready existing thread if its a known issue). Maybe send some feedback through official feedback channel, give it some time, and if it isn't rectified (and it interfers sufficiently with my enjoyment) then I merrily *cupcake* off to somewhere else.
Posting issues you want fixed in an "I quit" thread seems pretty futile. Why should devs and staff accomodate you or try to please you when you no longer participate? There is no money in non-players. Knowing why people leave has some limited value but the largest boon is knowing what the remaining players want and to accomodate the remaining players.
If you quit you quit.
It's like writing a suicide note detailing what needs to be changed for you not to commit suicide.
 
I believe one of the motivations behind "I quit" threads is a false belief that we, the internet, care what you do one way or the other.
And we do, to some extent.
If we can get a cheap laugh at your expense or if we can raise ourselves up by trampling you down then please do post.
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			Making a thread about it is typically just for attention and mostly everyone understands that, the "feedback" can probably be condensed into 1 or 2 words even. I have barely noticed any in awhile though now, I figure locking them instantly (despite offering a polite mod response and so on) tends to keep people from making them since they can't get the attention and sympathy(sometimes rage) they crave in the end.	
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Making a thread about it is typically just for attention and mostly everyone understands that, the "feedback" can probably be condensed into 1 or 2 words even. I have barely noticed any in awhile though now, I figure locking them instantly (despite offering a polite mod response and so on) tends to keep people from making them since they can't get the attention and sympathy(sometimes rage) they crave in the end.
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Actually I believe most people don't bother about the attention, but want to see the devs fix issues that have driven them away and that they deep down like to continue but isn't worth it for them at this moment.
 
Seriously why even bother listing things that troubled you otherwise?
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Making a thread about it is typically just for attention and mostly everyone understands that, the "feedback" can probably be condensed into 1 or 2 words even. I have barely noticed any in awhile though now, I figure locking them instantly (despite offering a polite mod response and so on) tends to keep people from making them since they can't get the attention and sympathy(sometimes rage) they crave in the end.
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			I would venture to bet most people would not post in a thread because then they can't have REPLIES to THEIR post. Nobody is going to reply to their salty words in a thread with many posts when they can have all the attention to themselves with their own thread, title and all.	
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Let's be honest, the mods are far more polite about it than a lot of us are.
 
Them making a quick post and then locking it saves them a lot of time in handing out warnings and deleting posts of all the mocking that goes on in those threads.
 
Leaving threads never end well. Other people that are planning on leaving agree with them but those that aren't leaving will just mock.
 
They need a form to fill in when you cancel your sub, that way it's handled by them. The problem with doing it on the forums is we don't know you, we don't give a damn what you do. If you are leaving just go quietly into the night.
 
When I stopped playing Sonic in the early 90's I didn't write to SEGA and tell them why, I just started playing Toejam and Earle and moved on with my life.
 
When my time is done with Wildstar i'll just move along. No raging, no waving just me skipping merrily on to the next thing that catches my eye. The only way people will know i've gone is my superb wit and infectious joy will vanish from the forums. People may shed manly tears.	
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I think you misundertand a few things here.
 
1. The forums are not a good way to "get a sense of where the game is going". They never are, even with higher level of attention this player base gets. Forums are toxic, so if you want a toxic viewpoint read as much as you can.
2. You overestimate your importance as a player and customer. If you were in my shoppe, casuing a ruckus and not buying anything, "trying to gauge the direction of my business" for future visits I would sincerely hope you finally left at the end of day and never returned. You are a bad consumer and so are the rest of your ilk. Feel free to quit, you aren't a joy for anyone to be around - yourself included.
 
There are differences between constructive feedback, bullying, venting, spewing toxic nonsense and threats. Only one of these is useful and acceptable. It usually gets subsumed quickly by the other four options. Don't even start in with your elitist quips about how I must not understand. I understand fine. I just disagree with the loud vocal minority and you'll have to learn to be okay with that.
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Pretty much this. 9/10 threads on "I quit cause X" or "If you don't Y I'll unsub" never actually did/do. It's just crying for attention in a very first world problems sense. Most of the people that acutally unsub do so quiety and for many reasons that aren't worth discussing - so they don't discuss them.
 
 
 
I think you misundertand a few things here.
 
1. The forums are not a good way to "get a sense of where the game is going". They never are, even with higher level of attention this player base gets. Forums are toxic, so if you want a toxic viewpoint read as much as you can.
2. You overestimate your importance as a player and customer. If you were in my shoppe, casuing a ruckus and not buying anything, "trying to gauge the direction of my business" for future visits I would sincerely hope you finally left at the end of day and never returned. You are a bad consumer and so are the rest of your ilk. Feel free to quit, you aren't a joy for anyone to be around - yourself included.
 
There are differences between constructive feedback, bullying, venting, spewing toxic nonsense and threats. Only one of these is useful and acceptable. It usually gets subsumed quickly by the other four options. Don't even start in with your elitist quips about how I must not understand. I understand fine. I just disagree with the loud vocal minority and you'll have to learn to be okay with that.
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 A good chunk of the time.. the rage quit threads usually don't address the real reason why they are quitting in the first place.  This is mostly due to a bruised ego which is why their trying to draw attention in the first place. Occasionally there is a productive critique thread as to why their departing but these are far and few. Most sane players will simply cancel their subs fill out the survey and move on.
 
If you gonna have a rage quit thread might as well call it what it is.. "Why this game pisses me off!!!"
At least that would be to the point..	
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 Most sane players will simply cancel their subs fill out the survey and move on.
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1) the forums are actually a good way to Sense where the game is going since here devs tend to write what they are working on/changing.
These threads often turn toxic because many people misinterpret constructive feedback with whining and/trolling. Often it is because those that create these threads have been very emotional about things that bothered them since they want to play these games but just can't for whatever reason, which seems to those that do still enjoy and play this game as personal attacks.
 
2) you can hardly compare an MMO with sonic since these games do and will change for better or worse as time progresses. 1 person might not make much of an impact but if many join in on a given topic, they will likely be heard.
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if you quit at your job, they dont let you come in the rest of the pay period to mouth it up with your fellow employees, you are done.
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Actually isn't that exactly what happens when you give your notice?
 
I mean if they think you're going to be particularly toxic (or steal) they might effectively pay you to leave early but in general they make you keep working while you're getting paid.
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			But the majority of people that quit their job never liked it in the first place, only did it to make a living. That's why I think its not fair to compare those two, and still most threads I come across seem to still have some constructive feedback if you manage to look past the hatress and read between the lines.	
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To be fair what I'm suggesting would be to give people a place to voice their reasons on their way out, preferably politely and eloquently.I've seen a fair few I quit posts along those lines.
 
But if we're going to avoid any subject where someone can be potentially toxic or rude then we may as well burn the entire forum down.
 
Also giving notice here is just a term for quitting with however much notice your contract requires, which doesn't necessarily make it a friendly parting or that there is necessarily another job on the other end.	
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To be fair what I'm suggesting would be to give people a place to voice their reasons on their way out, preferably politely and eloquently.
 
I've seen a fair few I quit posts along those lines.
 
But if we're going to avoid any subject where someone can be potentially toxic or rude then we may as well burn the entire forum down.
 
Also giving notice here is just a term for quitting with however much notice your contract requires, which doesn't necessarily make it a friendly parting or that there is necessarily another job on the other end.
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			This thread wouldn't belong on the forums because it's not really information that other players need - it's just information Carbine needs. And yes, they should definitely have a place where they take subscribers who cancel through an exit interview. But it definitely shouldn't be the forums.	
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But those people that canceled are often willing to come back if issues have been either resolved or the game has changed somehow.
Now most those people come to the forum to state the issues and what needs to improve in their opinion that they would be willing to spend their hard earned cash on this service again.	
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all I am saying is if you have cancelled your sub, make a place there so you can voice your comments. if you have cancelled you have already said you are withdrawing your present support for the game, there should be no reason to continue to be able to post on the forums since what can they do? ban you? no further investment, no voice, simple.
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Everytime I see a thread about someone leaving, or considering leaving get locked with a "Thanks for your feedback!" it just kind of reeks and rubs me the wrong way.
 
So why not just let there be a consolidated thread for it, like every other issue seems to get treated? That way the forum isn't cluttered with it and people have a place to vent their frustrations/say goodbye.
 
Then the feedback might actually stay visible, instead of being inta-locked and fading into obscurity.
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			Im not so sure about this idea. What would I do at work then???????????????	
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Im not so sure about this idea. What would I do at work then???????????????
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Such a thread would not provide concise and accurate "deal breaker" player assessments (wouldn't be quitting if they weren't deal breaking) unless:
the only posters allowed to contribute were people who were actually quitting, and	such a thread limited each such account to but a single post.
Neither of those conditions would/could ever be enforced, so realistically an "I Quit" thread would become little more than a flame war haven. If those conditions could be enforced, then I doubt the thread would exceed 2 or 3 pages and may well get buried in the forums from low activity. Not only would that absolutely grate the nerves of some of the people who did post, but it would defeat the real purpose of the thread - which would be to generate and maintain genuine issue visibility. I suppose the devs could always subscribe to it, but there would still be backlash from the inability to bump.	
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You realise this thread, purely about creating an I quit thread reached 3 pages already?
 
Since the point is about consolidating people's opinions instead of locking a dozen threads a day and ensuring those people never come back then why limit it just to people who've actually quit?	
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			Great idea, I would then know which thread to not read!	
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