114996-finding-it-difficult-to-quit

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So I quit and unsubbed a couple days ago.. But I'm finding it much harder than I thought
 
The combat/telegraph system is just awesome
 
I was looking up Archeage as maybe another game would help break my wildstar addiction but I found myself saying.. "Ugh tab targeting/no telegraphs" ahh forget that
 
Maybe go back to WoW I thought? Ugh no tab targeting, no double jumping, no sprinting.. Ahh forget it
 
Then I watched the nexus report and seeing just how much Carbine is working on wildstar makes me think maybe there is hope?
 
Then I read a post about how Carbine is rewarding all the win traders and exploiters with PVP titles and I'm reminded "oh yes, that's part of why I quit"
 
That's the thing with wildstar... The core of this game is hands down the best.. But those behind the controls making decisions on everything from gear drops in PVE, (tank stats on assault weapons) or PVP balance (warriors/medics lol) or choosing not to ban exploiters, or allowing a system that matches a fresh 50 in blues against an 1800 geared player than the blue geared person loses 45 rating are all examples of poor design decisions that don't have to be but for some reason are still in the game 3 months after release.
 
Could these systems be fixed and if so do I really want to take a hiatus until they are or be there for the transition which is always exciting (yes patch days feel like Xmas for me)
 
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So I quit and unsubbed a couple days ago.. But I'm finding it much harder than I thought
 
The combat/telegraph system is just awesome
 
I was looking up Archeage as maybe another game would help break my wildstar addiction but I found myself saying.. "Ugh tab targeting/no telegraphs" ahh forget that
 
Maybe go back to WoW I thought? Ugh no tab targeting, no double jumping, no sprinting.. Ahh forget it
 
Then I watched the nexus report and seeing just how much Carbine is working on wildstar makes me think maybe there is hope?
 
Then I read a post about how Carbine is rewarding all the win traders and exploiters with PVP titles and I'm reminded "oh yes, that's part of why I quit"
 
That's the thing with wildstar... The core of this game is hands down the best.. But those behind the controls making decisions on everything from gear drops in PVE, (tank stats on assault weapons) or PVP balance (warriors/medics lol) or choosing not to ban exploiters, or allowing a system that matches a fresh 50 in blues against an 1800 geared player than the blue geared person loses 45 rating are all examples of poor design decisions that don't have to be but for some reason are still in the game 3 months after release.
 
Could these systems be fixed and if so do I really want to take a hiatus until they are or be there for the transition which is always exciting (yes patch days feel like Xmas for me)
 
Anyone else in a similar position?
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			Yeah I re-subbed to Wow played for maybe 15 minutes and just felt bleh un-subbed for the umpteenth million time and keeping my monthly here for awhile longer, wish the Dominion side would pick up on Stormtalon though until then exile it is lol.	
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I'm not in a similar position. I know I can't quit. But also I have no reason to anyway...
 
What helps is that I'm a *WISE* mmo player. I've been playing almost everyday (more than 120 Boom-boxes opened...), yet I'm not even lvl 50. I play 4 toons in parallel. Right now I have Stalker, Esper, SpellSlinger and Medic all lvl 45.
 
I'm still discovering stuff, I'm still amazed at new things, I know I still have TONS of contents ahead... I don't even know how Grimvault looks like.	
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			I took a break from WildStar to play some Smite and I kept trying to dash out of enemies telegraph. It made me miss the WildStar combat that was more quick and fast action.	
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I was.  
I love action combat so Archage and WoW are not an option for me.
 
Here's what I've done: 
 
I played Tera - endgame was limited for too long, but combat felt amazing to me as melee, caster, archer, healer.  BEST healing gameplay in any MMO and RPG I've ever played.  Even beats DA and DA2.  I'm guessing end-game expanded but they did seem to have an addiction to reusing dungeons to turn them into raids and such.  Difficulty mostly didn't feel as high as raiding in other games.
 
DDO - old game, but semi-action combat and if you are not geared to the teeth already... that game has a lot of challenge. It is very involved when it comes to making a character, it's unforgiving.  Population is so-so.
 
Playing currently: PSO2 - ahmmm it's in JP with home-made translations and such. Harder to find people, community is small (cause it's really not a North American game). Combat is a ton of fun and being into looks... every 2-3 weeks we get new costumes, you can edit a gazillion details about your character, etc.  A game for those that like action combat and jRPGs. I have a ton of fun.
 
Playing currently: Destiny - I started out as an FPS/TPS player and got addicted to RPGs so this game speaks to me.  Abilities+guns, it is a great deal of fun.  3man parties feel small *cries* but can't wait to be max level so we can dabble in the 6man "raids" LOLz.
 
Honestly, Dragon Age Inquisition is coming out, PSO2 and Destiny keep me busy, I can't say I miss WildStar... I miss the people I met here, not the game.  And most of them quit... long before me.
 
Good luck.	
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			If you have fun with the game, unless there is absolutely pressing issues in life that is stopping you from playing, you should continue playing.  You could be spending your time and money on something much worse.  That's just my opinion, though.	
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I'm just waiting on the mega servers to drop and mainly drop 3 for class balance for pvp cause I do a lot. I hope support tank classes can benefit more than just be pizza meals for burst dps classes.
 
Benefit more as in better sustain damage and absorbing damage mitigation.	
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			I'm in the same boat. I made the mistake of getting my main to 50 within my free month and have been more or less stuck there ever since... At first I grinded dailies and got attuned, but that just burnt me out of Engineer, so then I started to level alts (while grinding and working on my main) but then I realized every minute I spent not on my main was a minute I wasn't getting EG/Plat/Gear/anything on my main and it would only be WORSE once I had 2 lvl 50s as I would have to grind twice as much effectively to keep up or leave one to rot... Now I can't even play a character for over 30 minutes without feeling like I'm wasting time in the game and just log out.	
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			Will quit quit when is dead. Is money to be made and crimes to to commit. :D	
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So I quit and unsubbed a couple days ago.. But I'm finding it much harder than I thought
 
The combat/telegraph system is just awesome
 
I was looking up Archeage as maybe another game would help break my wildstar addiction but I found myself saying.. "Ugh tab targeting/no telegraphs" ahh forget that
 
Maybe go back to WoW I thought? Ugh no tab targeting, no double jumping, no sprinting.. Ahh forget it
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			There are some exciting things coming down the pike that you'll want to be a part of! Keep checking back!	
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			I actually think when the mega servers come in Wildstar will get a lot more updates, maybe more features etc to help build the community again.	
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			I have unsubbed and resubbed like 2 weeks later. For some reason I am really enjoying the game to the point where i have returned the next WoW expansion and got my money back on my card to devote the money to the fees on this game lol	
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Honestly?  If you're on the fence about leaving, think about this:
 
-How many other MMOs on the market offer this kind of combat in their game?  The moment-to-moment gameplay in this game is fast paced and fun, even when just solo leveling.
 
-Yes, there are many great MMOs on the market today, but every MMO on the market comes with its own set of issues - many are the same as WildStar's issues. 
 
I'd say, if you are waffling back and forth on whether or not to renew your sub, then renew it.  Try exploring some aspect of the game that you haven't taken part in large doses, you might find yourself having that "Eureka!" moment without ever seeing it coming.
 
You could also try involving yourself more deeply in some sort of in-game community, like a Guild.  That's one of the best aspects of any MMO, the Social aspect, and often times the gameplay itself is simply a vehicle for that interaction.
 
Just a few thoughts.	
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Pretty much like Archeage which has had a major Launch issue with queues and so on.. the combat is kinda horrible as well.
Wildstar has the best combat out there, just needs more players.. :)	
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Pretty much like Archeage which has had a major Launch issue with queues and so on.. the combat is kinda horrible as well.
Wildstar has the best combat out there, just needs more players.. :)
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The telegraph system really brings another layer to the game, I love it. PvP FEELS amazing, but only while leveling. Hoping some gear balance fixes will take care of that, we'll see. CREDD m-m-makes me happy.
 
But yeah, there's some serious schizophrenic design happening, hope they can iron that out behind the scenes.	
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So I quit and unsubbed a couple days ago.. But I'm finding it much harder than I thought
 
The combat/telegraph system is just awesome
 
I was looking up Archeage as maybe another game would help break my wildstar addiction but I found myself saying.. "Ugh tab targeting/no telegraphs" ahh forget that
 
Maybe go back to WoW I thought? Ugh no tab targeting, no double jumping, no sprinting.. Ahh forget it
 
Then I watched the nexus report and seeing just how much Carbine is working on wildstar makes me think maybe there is hope?
 
Then I read a post about how Carbine is rewarding all the win traders and exploiters with PVP titles and I'm reminded "oh yes, that's part of why I quit"
 
That's the thing with wildstar... The core of this game is hands down the best.. But those behind the controls making decisions on everything from gear drops in PVE, (tank stats on assault weapons) or PVP balance (warriors/medics lol) or choosing not to ban exploiters, or allowing a system that matches a fresh 50 in blues against an 1800 geared player than the blue geared person loses 45 rating are all examples of poor design decisions that don't have to be but for some reason are still in the game 3 months after release.
 
Could these systems be fixed and if so do I really want to take a hiatus until they are or be there for the transition which is always exciting (yes patch days feel like Xmas for me)
 
Anyone else in a similar position?
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I definitely don't see myself quitting this game but if I were to it would be to play another genre of game. Wildstar's combat, movement, and responsiveness is say better than every other MMO.
 
Going back to a game with 1.5 second globals is aids.	
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Will quit quit when is dead.
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			I tried playing SWToR for a bit (it is F2P, after all). Between the tab-targeting and incessant you can't do this because you're not subbed" messages I wound up bailing on that right quick. The fast-paced combat in this game spoiled me for all others.	
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I keep trying to play ArcheAge, but I can't log in for more than 10 min without being completely bored by the game.  It's just so bloody dull in every way from combat, pacing, and animation to art style, world building and story.
 
WildStar has spoiled me and I now require active combat in basically all my MMOs. 	
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			I agree 100% that I cannot go back to a tab-target type of game.  It feels like I am taking a step backwards in gameplay.  The telegraph system is so much better in every way.  You actually have to play the game instead of just staring at bars in the UI.  There are a lot of things the game needs to improve on and it sounds like they are doing everything they can to right the ship so quitting hasn't really crossed my mind.  As soon as I thing about playing another MMO I think about the combat system and Wildstar wins immediately.	
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Not me.  Just transferred my main to Stormtalon b/c I bought into the hype.  Name's not available, nor any approximation thereof.  I don't trust Carbine to handle the rename when Megaservers hit (in what, like 6 months?) either.  
 
Back to LoL.  	
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			If Wildstar can fix some glaring issues and really get rolling it will be the best MMO without question.  No other MMO's combat even comes close.	
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Gotta say, if you're on the fence then you could just wait out subbing till things improve. A lot of people saying the game is dead is forgetting those that are waiting for that moment. Also I'm kinda in the same boat as everyone else. When I went searching for an mmo to play, it had to be fast pace, no tab targeting. I found this and love it, I'll love it even more when things continue to improve.
 
Edit: For now though, wtb pug buddies.	
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It is right now the only MMO that uses this type of gameplay as far as I know. Very fruid action.. makes you get into the game very fast and have a great time.
 
There must be some kind of -amazing- coding there because I bet every other MMO would want the exact same mechanics.	
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			Yea I resubbed. With all its issues (for me, it's primarily the OP healing imbalance in PvP ) Wildstar's combat is still hands down the best. I also really like the rune system. Not all the RNG.. but being able to customize gear through runes is a great idea and drop 3 really does fix the RNG issue.	
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Three months ago, I was loving the game. I always saw guild members online, and there was plenty of interesting (for me) things to do.
 
Two months ago, I started getting bored. I rarely saw guild members online, and I had to start an Exile character to have interesting (for me) things to do.
 
A month ago, I never saw guild members online. My Exile character reached Whitevale, and that became boring (for me) fast. I unsubbed at that point.
 
My sub expires in a few days. I'm still undecided at this point, so I'm waiting on a specific RNG to reward me. If I see the reward I'm looking for, I'll hold out for another month. If I don't, I'll simply uninstall Wildstar and move on.	
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Evade,
 
When megaservers hit ... seek out VicVanMeter ( Blazing Saddles ) for Exile or Typrop ( Skullkickers ) for Dominion; if you are not in a guild. ;)	
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 I Was playing yesterday on Dominion Stormtalon and seen the most people I had seen in awhile was kind of nice.*in the questing zones*
 
 	
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			I re-rolled to another server so I currently have 3 level 50's. I've done the reputation grind on all of them, started attunements etc and joined guilds which has resulted in being inactive. There were more players on the 'busy' server I rerolled onto before the new re-sub month, now there's not many around there either. I'm waiting for the Megaservers, but to be honest it's starting to look really dark. I may or may not be playing this for much longer.	
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But yeah, there's some serious schizophrenic design happening, hope they can iron that out behind the scenes.
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I keep trying to play ArcheAge, but I can't log in for more than 10 min without being completely bored by the game.  It's just so bloody dull in every way from combat, pacing, and animation to art style, world building and story.
 
WildStar has spoiled me and I now require active combat in basically all my MMOs. 
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Evade,
 
When megaservers hit ... seek out VicVanMeter ( Blazing Saddles ) for Exile or Typrop ( Skullkickers ) for Dominion; if you are not in a guild. ;)
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 Do you have an Exile Rikudou? I would love to get in group with ya and run something PvE/PvP
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			Eh personally i've been leaning towards quitting, this game took a bad route into stretching it's content and i really wish they would've looked deeper into the market before rushing the game out, this game lacks too much QoL, sadly i don't think they will be able to implement it fast enough to keep people around, the type of players they need to boost their subs will prob give in for WoD. I love the combat here, can't stress enough how rewarding it is to see how good you can be during raids, but at the same time the community skill fell drastically, carrying people on 40m is gruesome and very unrewarding, if anything i feel i'm back at 2004 with a lot of people that never raided in their life. I hope this game survives WoD, 2+ years can prob fix most of it's problems considering the devs take it on the right direction.	
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My first 2 characters are on Ascendancy Exile and my new character is on Hazak Dominion :)
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I took a break from WildStar to play some Smite and I kept trying to dash out of enemies telegraph. It made me miss the WildStar combat that was more quick and fast action.
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			The reason we are all so angry here is because this game could be so great, but fails us every time. Yet, it is still better than all the other turgid garbage out there. So we are frustrated.	
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			I really love this game (even with the bugs and shortcomings). Everything from it's story, art style, and combat system are a lot of fun. Currently, my biggest fear is that things will get fixed too late and the game will die, forcing me to go elsewhere. I really don't want to go back to WoW, and few other mmo's are appealing to me these days.	
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Ahhhh damnit! That's EU , now I actually own an EU account (I have several friends who live in Sweden that I wanted to play with) but seeing as the optimization was horrible for me, I just stayed playing on my NA account. Who knows, maybe one day......
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The reason we are all so angry here is because this game could be so great, but fails us every time. Yet, it is still better than all the other turgid garbage out there. So we are frustrated.
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My brother and I were talking about this last night. This game makes other MMOs seem boring by comparison, with the fresh graphics and engaging combat system, so the random painful anti-QoL things are all the more frustrating (and even more so when they're patched in to the game... WTF).
 
It's like a candy store with mousetraps hidden in the tub of Skittles.
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More like the air conditioner is full of bees.
 
And yeah, this upcoming drop does seem like it will fix a lot of the complaints people have. Many people I've spoken to are on the fence about the game, waiting to see how well it gets ironed out, which is all we can do at this point. Wait and keep hitting on the things that we'd like to see in the game.
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Well, you guys. I'm a *cupcake* casual RPer, I love housing, and I make some kind of content progress once in a while when the band's all together and we wing something. I'm having a great time!
 
But, I mean, you guys who aren't *cupcake* casual RPers need your game too, I guess. Hope you get it.
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That's fair. I used to RP in Furcadia like it was my job. But if I want to RP these days I can do it with pen and paper, so I do tend to look for more from the games I play on the entertainment box.
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Anyone else in a similar position?
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I can't quit you either, Evade.
 
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I'm in the same boat. I let my sub run out because I hadn't logged into the game for weeks but promptly re subbed the next day for 3 months. Why?
 
I have a dirty little secret. I reinstalled the other MMO on a trial, created a new character, picked up my first quest and within 3 minutes, logged off and uninstalled. I felt like I had time traveled into the past and was playing a game on Atari (ok maybe not that drastic but you get the point).
 
I realized just how archaic the game felt compared to WS. It was like showing up to a Y2K party in a horse and carriage. And dammit I want that red Corvettte!
 
So where's the logic? I'm not sure but the feel of WS is just right; I hope I'm not chasing the dragon. I've re-upped my bet on this game for the next three months realizing that every MMO I've ever played have also gone through the same learning curves WS is. Does this mean the ship will right itself? I'm not sure but Carbine...the baton is now yours...again.	
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I'd ship it... >_>
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			There's honestly no other MMO that has kept my attention like WS, then again, my guild is nearly 5/6 GA so I'm getting deeper into content and having fun. I think overall, everything will get much better and I keep faith because every other MMO makes me wanna bang my head against a wall when tab targeting screws up or more specifically how badly certain ones handle CC/CC breaks (archeage especially). I mainly just want to see itemization changes, nothing else really bugs me.	
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