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Well, I love wildstar and the community is pretty cool most of the time. However, as a subscriber I will not pay to sit in a Q for hours. So after typing this i will be hitting the account pages and cancelling my sub. I am still going to play the game, but as a FTP player. I hear all the same excuses, well this is a new version release etc...
 
They have had months of prep for this, the massive numbers coming into the game was an obvious problem right from the start. However, it seems they did nothing to prepare the servers for the vast number of players. I managed to play for a short time this morning & I really love the changes that have been made. Tbh, it would have made sense if current subs were put ahead of the FTP crowd.
 
 
 	
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			I like how you not only ignore 80% of the word's existence but then once it becomes a single letter you have to put an apostrophe to pluralise it.	
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How do you plan for a hurricane?  You do your best to batten down the hatches, cover all the windows, and nail anything down that already isn't.  Do you think this will prevent your house from being destroyed?
 
I think a little perspective is in order.
 
Humans are fickle creatures.	
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			Current paying subs are put ahead of free players.No matter how much a game prepares, on launch day the servers will get slammed and there will be queues.If you can't be patient, that's on YOU not the game. In a few days when people start playing at a normal schedule and all the kinks are ironed out, the queues will go away. Either tough it out or come back later in the week.	
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I agree with the OP.
 
I'm a paying member/subscriber, and yet I'm #1089 in the queue?! In the middle the afternoon in the US?! This is not prime time, and I'd be surprised to hear there are actually 1089 subscribers ahead of me in the queue.
 
But in the wild chance that that is indeed the case, then a second (third? fourth?) PvE server is an absolute must.
 
Time to cancel the sub.
 
Way to fail on two successive launches, Carbine. You won't get a third chance.	
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			Because you've been a very naughty boy/girl/being of fluid gender. Now go stand in the corner.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Wylf	
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Oyjord
 
Let me guess, you took off of work, or are in school, or unemployed?  I do not think your plan for the day was original judging by the traffic.	
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			So as a paying signatire player, I'm in an hour queue. I wonder how long the new FTPs have to wait.	
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So.. who's bright idea was it anyway to keep 1 server for a possible influx of 10000's newcomers?
1 server meaning 1 pve, 1 pve for both continents.
Idiotic.
 
Seriously this is poorly done.
 
Anybody who disagrees is a fanboy, im sorry to say it.
For the 5 minutes i managed to play, game does look and play pretty smooth ill give it that.
But a 5 hour Queue is just poor planning.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Bozebeer35	
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Oyjord
 
Let me guess, you took off of work, or are in school, or unemployed?  I do not think your plan for the day was original judging by the traffic.
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I pay sub, why do i have to wait in que?!!
 	
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			Because there are more paying players than you out there. When all paying players want to enter at the same time, what do you think happens? 	
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			Because they don't care about paying customers? That's what i've come to realize...	
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			You still get placed in a queue with other subscribers. Took only 20mins for me to get in. Go for a coffee run to kill time.	
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			Signature player sitting in an hour long queue in the middle of the day just to do housing, something just isn't right with that.  Can't wait until prime time!	
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			Look. They aren't going to spend a ton of extra money on servers etc, for the first launch week of the game. Because the surge of players will normalize after a week or so. This is super common in MMO launches. Did you happen to try WoW when Warlords came out? That was a mega disaster and they are a huge company. It just happens. It will settle down.	
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Because there are more paying players than you out there. When all paying players want to enter at the same time, what do you think happens? 
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			Gone from 443 in Queue to 1560 in queue with the queue time increasing instead of decreasing!	
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"All paying players"....not all paying players want to enter during the middle of the day on a Tuesday...most players are working /school...
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			Just got home - same here, but i'm sure Carbine are going to do something about it. to be honest i think they should just open up one more PvE realm (EU and US), and then make server transfers free between both PvE and PvP realms for 1 week, that would help out greatly. but it's a good sign that the game is in demand, and this is to be expected considering that they actually marketed the Relaunch quite well this time (at least i think so personally)	
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			I am sitting at work and let me tell you I would still trade places with you.  All about perspective.	
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Just got home - same here, but i'm sure Carbine are going to do something about it. to be honest i think they should just open up one more PvE realm (EU and US), and then make server transfers free between both PvE and PvP realms for 1 week, that would help out greatly. but it's a good sign that the game is in demand, and this is to be expected considering that they actually marketed the Relaunch quite well this time (at least i think so personally)
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Gone from 443 in the queue to 1411 now - and queue time increased from under and hour to well over 4+ hours now.....
 
I smell cash grab!!!!!	
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			even if you get in the lag is unbearable, they need a bigger server, keep the same number of realm.	
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As a paying player, I don't believe that there are 2300 other paying players waiting in line before me.
 
And if this is true, RIP new players who possibly have a 5000 queue? :unsure:	
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Look. They aren't going to spend a ton of extra money on servers etc, for the first launch week of the game. Because the surge of players will normalize after a week or so. This is super common in MMO launches. Did you happen to try WoW when Warlords came out? That was a mega disaster and they are a huge company. It just happens. It will settle down.
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Yeah i've given up for tonight.....
 
I don't think they will invest much more money into hardware = Expensive....
 
They only recently downsized/merged to have the "mega" server we now have... 
 
Mega server probably means about the capacity of three or 4 normal ones.
 
It was already bad at 3pm UK time...
 
They will quite happily have financially planned for near full capacity... It would have to be an outrageous number of people... a few months down the line... making an investment in hardware worth it... 
 
It wont be worth it.... F2P games have half lifes of about 3 months......  	
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			So that's why mine is decreasing faster. Mmm the benefit of not being cheap.	
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went upto 1760 in queue to 6+ hours wait time.....think its time to call it ....been trying all day and not been able to get in since they restarted the servers today and did the small patch.......will try again maybe in a few days time or unistall the game again.....
 
I dont hold out much hope if this is the launch that it will be any good so wont really want ot waste investing any sort of time into this game as I feel its just a CASH GRAB now with little to no support and fixes....just like majority of other F2P games on the market!!!!	
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How do you plan for a hurricane?  You do your best to batten down the hatches, cover all the windows, and nail anything down that already isn't.  Do you think this will prevent your house from being destroyed?
 
I think a little perspective is in order.
 
Humans are fickle creatures.
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Yeah, stay in queue and go for a coffee.....
 
I have a further problem, in that when I change the sound device for Wildstar (when moving from speakers to headset), I need to reboot Wildstar - it doesn't switch over automatically....
Will I then revert to the back of the queue?	
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			Guys, guys, guys just be patient. The devs didnt expect this large amount of player too. So just wait and pls dont hate the game for it,	
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			Are you guys EU or something? I just logged right into to the US PvE server. Subscriber btw.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Azurrei	
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			Yep its EU peak now.	
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Yep EU Jabbit here - it feels like everyone (even the sub payers like me) may have been reverted so ALL are f2p at present - (I say it just FEELS that way - maybe for load balancing tests or something I don't know).
 
Some of my guildees who are also paid subscribers are in-game but stating that there benefits for being subs are not there.....
 
So, looks like a helluva lot of testing going on atm guys.....
 
Don't make any rash decisions, expect the worst - which could be a whole week or month of updates/patches and regular downtime....and plan for the worst - get out and have a beer or something whilst the painful stuff goes on this week :)
 
Regards,	
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So i decided to try this game with a few friends, I was super excited till i saw the queue time increasing after 20 minutes instead of decreasing...waited more...it's been 1 1/2 hours now...
Was it always like this? Even before the Ftp? Or there was no queue, not even of a few minutes?I really hope that this problem will be solved soon.. having the FtP option is a good way to have more players and more people to buy the game and make money but if the FtP players have to wait this long to log in I can see how they will lose a lot of players instead.How is it possible that the servers are not set up to run with a lot of people with the FtP mode? Were they not expecting so many people?	
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			well lots of people re-joined for f2p, should be shorter if you have a signature account :/ the queues will probably stop in a couple of days	
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 Were they not expecting so many people?
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			No queue before, it just that the game became Hype with this F2P thing, it will be back to normal in a few days. They were not expecting many people and they are not expecting all of the new player to stay, so i guess they don't want to invest too much and will do it step by step ( pure guess btw )	
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			There were no queues except at launch.The F2P conversion is a relaunch, with a lot of new people and more interest, so the queues are back.Yes of course they planned for a lot of people, and a lot of people are playing.However you need to understand the fundamental difference between the time right after a launch and normal operations.Right now everyone wants to play, and they want to play for longer than normal. Normally people play at scattered times for a couple hours at a time, thus distributing the load.There's only so much a company can do to prepare for a huge rush like this, and there's little point spending a ton of money to compensate for it when it will ease off on its own in a few days.Patience is a virtue.	
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As much as i hate this launch its very standard these days.
 
I'm sure most of you know they could have prepared for this day but knowing that a large portion of people would likely leave anyway making the investment in new servers/hardware a loss in income.
 
I don't blame them.. i blame all of you! if you stuck around this game would be thriving and there would be many servers...  :D	
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They were not expecting many people and they are not expecting all of the new player to stay, 
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			Well the game is unplayable so no point sitting in queue.	
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			lmao im sure there is 2000 subbed peope in front of me, gtfo hahaha. Dont worry its f2p and we knew there would be thousands but lets keep 2 garbage servers up. I enjoy when people bring up that its and mmo and mmos have bad starts, clearly we all know this and they know this and yet they have not learned a thing. Lmao 2 servers? comical
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Arctica21	
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Sam *cupcake*
 
Even the best made plans go to *cupcake*.  So what do you do when it does?  Start bailing and hope you can keep your head above water.
 
With a limited customer base how does one plan to test servers beyond their capacity if you do not even have that many people to test it with?  Do you see the issue with your statement.	
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I, and many others, have been a paying subscriber to Wildstar since launch and I was under the impression that there would be no queue for us when F2P hit. Normally, I would chalk this up to release day hiccups and be in hopes that they will fix this issue shortly because I'm sure they're aware that many paying subs will stop being paying subs if the F2P players are given precedence over us.
 
However, what is biting me in the craw is that I am a streamer and was in hopes of streaming Wildstar today. Normally I am one of only three or five streamers of Wildstar but now, as I wait in queue, I see that there are no less than fifty Wildstar streamers and many of them have never even played Wildstar before today and they are not even paying customers. In fact, I have seen a couple of the top five Wildstar streamers at the moment talking bad about Wildstar in the past saying they would never play it. Now, with the F2P bandwagon they have decided to not only stream the game but, they continue bashing the game on stream while playing it. All the while they have talked, or paid, the Wildstar devs to advertise their streams for them. This is preposterous!
 
Many of us have been loyal customers and players sense launch. Why are we not given the same respect and loyalty back? I'm told that I have to make another character on a different server. Really? I have characters on Entity that was made on release well over a year ago.
 
At the very least, and the purpose of this topic, paying subscribers should not have to wait in Queue for an hour with the f2p.	
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			Im sitting in queue for hours as a sub too, makes loads of sense and is fun.	
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			Whoa, out of the way folks.  We have a streamer.  Open it up for him.	
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			Subs get moved to the front of the queue, with other subs, then the F2P players are behind them.  Sub doesn't equal no queue.. just means queue of other subs.	
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So you want to know how much FTP players have people in queue? I am trying to login now and there is 6500 players in queue then there is ME :) Time in queue is calculated for 3+ hours REALLY? :D 
They are NOT prepared for f2p, they have not enought space for all players. (I really want to know how much players can be online ATM on the one realm if 6000 is waiting LOL)
 
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	Edited September 29, 2015 by beraks	
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Came back to give the game another try, but apparently I also have to wait over an hour just to be able to do that!Before some says "Go PvP Server", I don't pvp and I hate getting ganked, like hate, reallly really hate, like ruins the entire *cupcake*ing game hate.
 
So came released with a lot of flash and already fizzling, this sounds familiar, would think after how much they invested they wouldn't make such a stupid oversight.	
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			Hum... makes sense.@blc: why do you say so?	
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			F2p player have it even worse someone showed me a 442 hour wait time pic XD	
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lmao im sure there is 2000 subbed peope in front of me, gtfo hahaha. Dont worry its f2p and we knew there would be thousands but lets keep 2 garbage servers up. I enjoy when people bring up that its and mmo and mmos have bad starts, clearly we all know this and they know this and yet they have not learned a thing. Lmao 2 servers? comical
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			These 2+ hour queues during prime time for signature subscribers are ridiculous.
			
				
	Edited October 2, 2015 by Bosk	
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