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Today's breakfast is an assortment of Pan Dulces from the local panaderia down the street. The coffee is good, but it's the cinnamon-spiked hot chocolate that's the real reason for living.
 
So, it looks like the servers are down this morning. No loss for us working stiffs, but certainly no fun-times for those at home. Hopefully things will get up and running soon enough. In the meanwhile, come in, have some delicious sweet cakes and let's talk about ...
 
Cooking, Fishing and other secondary tradeskills.
 
I don't know what it is about Cooking in Wildstar, but I've always loved it in other games. There is something weird about the material collection and the tradeskill interface in Wildstar that makes me back away slowly every time I try to get into it.
 
Anyone max out Cooking here? Got some pointers? Is it even really worth my time?
 
 
And did y'all hear we're getting Fishing? See, now that's a time-wasting, super-casual activity that I can get behind. My first WoW toon was a master angler, but I never had the patience to sit through another 1,000,000 casts. :lol:
 
So, what other kinds of tradeskilling/crafting do y'all like - and what changes would you like to see here?
 
 
EDIT: HA! And the servers go up while I was posting! Nice! Have fun, Nexus!
			
				
	Edited September 17, 2015 by Chillia	
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I tend to hate crafting in games. Dunno why, never had the patience for it. In WoW I usually went with dual gathering professions, to at least be able to sell stuff.
 
Wildstar probably won't change that, the crafting interface is way too annoying for that, with the whole trial and error thing until you can finally craft the item you want. And selling the stuff on the auction house is *so* annoying too! Why the hell is there no "sell this for the same price as the last 15 versions of the same item I *just now* put into the auction house" option? Or why can't you split stacks in the auction house menu? Why why whyyyyy?! If I have a stack of fifteen bear-arses (a traditional product in most MMOs :P) and want to sell each of those separately... why do I have to split the stack fifteen times in my inventory, instead of just selecting a "sell 1 item 15 times" option?And why is the search engine so inept, that it only shows 50 items if you're looking for, say, dyes? You know, the exact type of item where normal people would spend quite a while looking through all the available options, which they can't, because only 50 of them are shown?!
 
And why is there no dye preview, after over a year? God!
 
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Oh yeah, I'm not big on the "Well *this game* has this feature!" comparisons, but holy crap, Wildstar's Auction House/Commodity system interface is the WORST. Seriously. It's bad. Like ... I'd rather have teeth pulled than try and use it. Which isn't to say WoW is amazingly awesome, but even the basic AH interface is better.
 
The first time I did a search for something and it told me "there are too many of this type to display" I was done. THAT is the most scrub-league crap in the history of MMO Auction Houses.  Really, really sad.	
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Oh yeah, I'm not big on the "Well *this game* has this feature!" comparisons, but holy crap, Wildstar's Auction House/Commodity system interface is the WORST. Seriously. It's bad. Like ... I'd rather have teeth pulled than try and use it. Which isn't to say WoW is amazingly awesome, but even the basic AH interface is better.
 
The first time I did a search for something and it told me "there are too many of this type to display" I was done. THAT is the most scrub-league crap in the history of MMO Auction Houses.  Really, really sad.
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			Yeah, feel free to change the title. I'm not sure how ... Maybe "Mad Skillz, Edition"  :D	
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			"Auctionhouse Appreciation Edition"? No? Alright. ;(	
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Well, civilization has been trading for a long long time, auction houses have only been around for about 500 years  :P
 
I like the crafting in Wildstar...well, ok...most of it anyways. Tailor is easy, so is Weaponsmith but crafts like Technologist or Architect while still fairly easy to understand, make you gather everything on Nexus so they are pretty time consuming. One of my characters is a double gatherer so she spends a day deforesting, strip mining and gathering every available resource just to restock my crafters.
 
I have never leveled up cooking. I do know Cirinde worked on it for weeks trying to farm bug bits and meat. I'm unsure if she ever maxed it but she was pretty determined.
 
Fishing sounds fun (love to fish in real life) I just hope I don't have to buy a fishing pole from the cash shop to do it.	
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			I have to agree with you both: the A.H sucks chua undies. ESPECIALLY when you're trying to hunt down housing decor. I can't tell you how annoying it is when you're looking for certain type of decor and it refuses to show any results because you weren't exact with the name -___-	
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but crafts like Technologist or Architect while still fairly easy to understand, make you gather everything on Nexus so they are pretty time consuming. One of my characters is a double gatherer so she spends a day deforesting, strip mining and gathering every available resource just to restock my crafters.
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			I have attempted to level cooking. I got through one of the achieves and said "f this", because oh my god why should it take me fifty tries to make a single recipe. @_@	
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I have attempted to level cooking. I got through one of the achieves and said "f this", because oh my god why should it take me fifty tries to make a single recipe. @_@
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I am sorry-not-sorry to say it out loud, but the entire concept of those targeted tradeskills (Cooking, Architect, Technologist) is a complete blight on the entire game and should just be scrapped and re-done into something ... I dunno ... what's the word I'm looking for here ...
 
Functional?
Entertaining?
Worthwhile?
Interesting?
 
Right now, it's none of those things.
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Good morning, all!
 
I'm not even gonna touch on the auction house (OK, I just did). But yea, I've said my peace a few times and it's just not changing so whatever.
 
For professions, I'm not a big fan of them in games either. I did like the way Wildstar tried something different by giving us the target system. It's not something I'd want to use for mass production (and in that light, not very effective for Architects), but I found it more amusing than WoW type crafting. Which in the end might as well not exist at all. :rolleyes:
 
In the end, when it comes to WS crafting and the odd time I need a bunch of decor made, i'll just find someone else who doesn't mind clicking a lot and pay them to do it for me. I feel this balances fairly well— I get what I want without tedium, and they make gold. Generally I figure the folks helping me out with this are lower level and need the income so I'm happy for the relationship. And it's nice to have that 'human' touch (furry paw, sharp claw, metal fist...) that makes the game a little more personable, and lets me avoid the auction house. :P
 
 
To try to be a little more helpful than critical, I'd like to see Architects get an option to specialize in a certain type of decor. It could be Aurin or Marauder or Osun or Cassian. And through that, maybe be able to do something unique, like produce colour variations of known decor. I think that'd be a neat way to tie lore and world immersion into what's a pretty isolated element of the game, plus gives us Architects a bit of distinction, and a reason to exist. ;)	
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			btw, is gear crafting going to be the same in f2p? That's one part of crafting that I rlly liked.	
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btw, is gear crafting going to be the same in f2p? That's one part of crafting that I rlly liked.
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I did like the way Wildstar tried something different by giving us the target system. It's not something I'd want to use for mass production (and in that light, not very effective for Architects), but I found it more amusing than WoW type crafting. Which in the end might as well not exist at all. :rolleyes:
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Good Morning Everyone!
 
 
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Well, civilization has been trading for a long long time, auction houses have only been around for about 500 years  :P
 
I like the crafting in Wildstar...well, ok...most of it anyways. Tailor is easy, so is Weaponsmith but crafts like Technologist or Architect while still fairly easy to understand, make you gather everything on Nexus so they are pretty time consuming. One of my characters is a double gatherer so she spends a day deforesting, strip mining and gathering every available resource just to restock my crafters.
 
I have never leveled up cooking. I do know Cirinde worked on it for weeks trying to farm bug bits and meat. I'm unsure if she ever maxed it but she was pretty determined.
 
Fishing sounds fun (love to fish in real life) I just hope I don't have to buy a fishing pole from the cash shop to do it.
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			HI FITCHY! I MISS YOU!!!!  :wub:	
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HI FITCHY! I MISS YOU!!!!  :wub:
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Auction house. Honestly, it gives me a headache every time I have to use it. Buying mats is just awful!!!! Oh, I wanted 10, but you can't give me 10 at that price. You'd think it would tell me how many it can? Ha. Dreamers, the lot of you. Click click click... Turns out only one mat was available at the lowest price. Table flipping rage endured. Sigh! 
Tera showed each person's mat stack separately even if at the same price. Also enjoyed the bidding system in that game haha. 
 
Crafting. It's weird. I'm not a crafter at the core. And yet in ddo I farmed and crafted up the wazoo. Expensive freaking endeavour with lots of farming across a lot of content. And why did I do this? Because crafting was very useful for two things. One, twink gear for releveling as you could max out just useful stats for you. Since releveling the same character was a must to gain power (past life benefits), even Raiders did a lot of it and we all Leveled crafting to make burning through elite faster. You could craft for others, but it required a lot more mats and a lot more levels. 
The other reason I crafted was because you could make gear to cover gear gaps while you spent months and months and months farming for your ideal setup. 
 
In this game I tried to craft but I started with technologist and cooking. I rage quit so fast... Not even funny. Never tried anything else	
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As a research mechanism I like the dartboard method.  But once you've done it 5, 6 or 10 times it absolutely needs to transition into something less random.
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			My favorite part about Architect is that the character can somehow fumble what he is doing and end up creating a lamp post instead of the defensive barrier he wanted to make. The absurdity of it would be funny if it was a cartoon but, since it's a player-directed activity, it becomes infuriating instead.The only crafting professions I leveled up were architect and weaponsmithing. I ditched weaponsmithing recently because I found out too late that faction-locked weapons also have their skins in the holo-wardrobe locked to the faction. That wasn't fun, and the prospect of leveling up another weaponsmith on the Dominion side and farming all the materials back is not fun either.	
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I like the crafting system in Wildstar more than most games. It gives you nice clear paths to follow and still ramps up difficulty. I just really wish there was a game that would make endgame equipment crafting worthwhile. I wanna make legendaries, gosh darnit! Why should some unnamed and forgotten craftsman get all the glory for making the best weapons? I would even be ok with having to raid for mats or whatever hoops you have to jump through to make it fair. Even make the weapons soulbound so you cant just flood a market with the best weapons.
 
 
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			Yeah, I'm sure *what* that cannon is supposed to actually be, but if we don't get to "go fishing" using that guy, I am going to have serious disappoint.	
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And why is there no dye preview, after over a year? God!
 
Rant over. I'll go to sleep now, I think.
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Yeah, I'm sure *what* that cannon is supposed to actually be, but if we don't get to "go fishing" using that guy, I am going to have serious disappoint.
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I like crafting in some games and not in others. Particularly, I like games where you can make your character a specialized crafter above all else if you wish (ESO and SWG come to mind). 
 
WoW - I was a cook and a fisher. 
 
Wildstar - I love cooking in MMOs, not so much in wildstar, because I feel like the most everything you can make is a waste of time. I know they are making some changes, but the base is still very dull to me. No variation at elder game recipes, no better recipes with higher level mats =(. I made a thread about it at one point but never really got any traction. 	
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I am sorry-not-sorry to say it out loud, but the entire concept of those targeted tradeskills (Cooking, Architect, Technologist) is a complete blight on the entire game and should just be scrapped and re-done into something ... I dunno ... what's the word I'm looking for here ...
 
Functional?
Entertaining?
Worthwhile?
Interesting?
 
Right now, it's none of those things.
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I like crafting in some games and not in others. Particularly, I like games where you can make your character a specialized crafter above all else if you wish (ESO and SWG come to mind). 
 
WoW - I was a cook and a fisher. 
 
Wildstar - I love cooking in MMOs, not so much in wildstar, because I feel like the most everything you can make is a waste of time. I know they are making some changes, but the base is still very dull to me. No variation at elder game recipes, no better recipes with higher level mats =(. I made a thread about it at one point but never really got any traction. 
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The addon is called DyeDummy, which replaces the old DyePreview.  Thank me later.
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I like crafting in some games and not in others. Particularly, I like games where you can make your character a specialized crafter above all else if you wish (ESO and SWG come to mind). 
 
 
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 Hopefully if we see fishing they make it a synergy with cooking like wow had it.. .so you can literally fish your way through it..
 
I ruined crafting for myself when i power leveled a character in gw2 in one day.. 8 crafting trades is pretty tedious to do in a day lol...never got to involved with crafting in any mmo after that lol	
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