The Lupe Fuentes Experience

The Lupe Fuentes Experience is a podcast hosted by Colombian house music producer and DJ Lupe Fuentes. The very first episode was published on August 4, 2021, where she talked to American rapper Lupe Fiasco. Topics included the origin of 'Guadalupe,' their childhood names, micheladas, and misogyny in the music business."001 - Lupe Fiasco VS Lupe Fuentes". YouTube. August 4, 2021.
== Synopsis ==
Lupe Fuentes sits down with Lupe Fiasco, an American rapper, songwriter and entrepreneur in an engaging and fun conversation about music, working through struggles, and performing. The years of friendship shines through as Lupe and Lupe have a laidback playful vibe.
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== Transcript ==
Lupe Fuentes	Today's guest is my friend and Grammy-winner, Lupe Fiasco. He's a rapper, record producer, entrepreneur, and many more things. And we are going to be wrestling. Heh-heh. Who do you think is gonna win? Lupe versus Lupe. Let's go.
Lupe Fiasco 	So where you wanna start? Where should we start in this investigation of Lupe? Lupe and Lupe. We both got the same name.
Lupe Fuentes	Yeah, how did you choose the name Lupe?
Lupe Fiasco 	Um, I had a friend in high school. Um, I used to do theater. Um, before. Well, around the same... wasn't really taking rap seriously. And my high school had a really professional theater program, right? And so I joined the theater as a stagehand, moving set pieces and stuff. And so, when you're moving set pieces you have a partner to help lift the other side. So my partner—
Lupe Fuentes	Uh huh.
Lupe Fiasco 	Was this guy named Lupe. His name was uh, Guadalupe. And he was Columbian. Um, and—
Lupe Fuentes	I'm Columbian!
Lupe Fiasco 	I know, see how this works? See it's like all, it's all meant to be, Lupe. Um, and uh, he—so me and him got really close, we got real good friends, we was partners moving the sets around so we worked together. And uh, I always rapped. My real name is Wasalu, and so I always used to—
Lupe Fuentes	Wasalu.
Lupe Fiasco 	I always used to rap under 'Lu.' So Lu was always like part, like 'Hey Lu, what's going on?' Lu, Lu, Lu, Lu, Lu. And so when I met Lupe, I was like, 'Yo, I need a fancier name for a rap name. So I'mma take your name.' And I took his name, Lupe, and then I became Lupe.
Lupe Fuentes	Why did you like that name, Lupe?
Lupe Fiasco 	Um. How can I put this? So, back then—this was like mid-nineties. It was like '96, '97. Um, for some reason rap had an infatuation with like Italians and like Spanish things. Right, so like—
Lupe Fuentes	I think they still do though. Right?
Lupe Fiasco 	Yeah, like mobster movies...
Lupe Fuentes	I feel like rap music feels really inspired by, by that. Like, Latin culture and—yeah?
Lupe Fiasco 	Yeah. Like, like gangster movies, and like uh, uh, I guess like the cartel and stuff like that. So you have all this like kinda aspect to it. So that's what we were listening to, and—me and my little rap crew—and we just started and was like okay, if you're a rapper and if you're at a certain level, then you need to have like an Italian or Spanish-sounding like name. Right?
Lupe Fuentes	Uh huh.
Lupe Fiasco 	So I was like 'okay, Lupe.' And then I had a last name. So we also thought that like rappers needed to have like—like if you had a Spanish first name. You needed to have a first and a last name, right? So you need to have a first name and a last name.
Lupe Fuentes	A Spanish, too, it must be Spanish.
Lupe Fiasco 	Yeah. And it has to be something that sounds like Cartel or Mafia, right? So my name was Lupe Fiasco, right?
Lupe Fuentes	Mm hm.
Lupe Fiasco 	And then I had another friend, who was in a rap group like me. His name was Napo Colissimo, right?
Lupe Fuentes	Napo Colissimo—
Lupe Fiasco 	Napo Colissimo.
Lupe Fuentes	Napo Colosimo. I don't even know—It doesn't even mean anything.
Lupe Fiasco 	So, so, his rap name — I think his name was Napoleon or something like that. So Napo is short and then there was like 'no, you gotta have like an Italian last name.' And he was like 'kay, Colissimo.' And Colissimo was the name of some mobster. Um, so anyway that's where you get like Lupe Fiasco. And then—
Lupe Fuentes	So you guys just felt really hard about it and you were like 'yeah, this name sounds gangster. I wanna choose this.'
Lupe Fiasco 	So this is how it set. That was... we had many names. So that was like the AKA, right?
Lupe Fuentes	Uh huh.
Lupe Fiasco 	So you had like such-and-such AKA such-and-such AKA, AKA. So Lupe Fiasco was like my AKA, right? And uh, we did a—comes full circle. We did a talent show at my high school, right? In the same theater that I worked at in my high school. And they had like a, like a local party promoter DJ, announcer type person come to be the announcer to introduce the acts that were coming in to perform. And so the one woman when she came in, when she said my name, right? And she's like a professional.
Lupe Fuentes	What she say? What she say?
Lupe Fiasco 	She's like a professional, professional name sayer, right? Like that's her job, right, to say names really nice.
Lupe Fuentes	Names.
Lupe Fiasco 	And so I had a group.
Lupe Fuentes	Yeah.
Lupe Fiasco 	And she said my friends, and we got Bishop G, and we got Napo, and we got Doe Boy. And when she got to me, she was like 'and now, Lupe Fiasco!' And she said it in such a way—it was like, that's my name.
Lupe Fuentes	Oh, that's so cool. And she say Lupe? Because I realize when I move here that a lot of American people say Lupey. And I'm like 'dude, that's not how you say it.' So Lupe, she pronounced it correctly?
Lupe Fiasco 	She pronounced it correctly, she put like a really nice like flare on it and made it sound really like, flamboyant. And I was like 'okay, that's my, that's my name.' Snoop Dogg still calls me—
Lupe Fuentes	It sounded sexy.
Lupe Fiasco 	Yeah, it sounded super sexy, it sounded professional. And it was like 'oh, I'm Lupe Fiasco now. Like I'm Lupe Fiasco. I'm Lupe Fiasco now.'
Lupe Fuentes	I love that name, honestly. I love that name, it's such a great name.
Lupe Fiasco 	But it's your name, so of course you will love it. You have the same name, we almost have the same name.
Lupe Fuentes	But, but you know what? Lupe is not usually a guy's name, it's usually a girl's name.
Lupe Fiasco 	Mm hm.
Lupe Fuentes	But if it's a guy, I think it sounds so cool. Another whole thing, Guadalupe but Lupe, it sounds badass, I like it. And it's short, you can remember it easily, nice.
Lupe Fiasco 	Two syllables, done. Snoop Dogg still says—
Lupe Fuentes	Snoop Dogg.
Lupe Fiasco 	Lupey.
Lupe Fuentes	Lupey.
Lupe Fiasco 	Lupey.
Lupe Fuentes	I fucking hate when people do that. I hate when people do that. People say it to me like, you have to think you're at a DMV—Lupey. And you are like what? Terrible, I don't like it.
Lupe Fiasco 	But you gotta stop responding to it, right? So people could just be sitting there and keep saying 'Lupey...'
Lupe Fuentes	But what if you have to? Like you miss your chance.
Lupe Fiasco 	Nah. What's your story? So, you moved to America from... I need, I need your story, right? 'Cause I know a nice amount for stuff about you. Um, but I think there's—
Lupe Fuentes	You do!
Lupe Fiasco 	I do. But I think that for the sake of your fans and my fans, um, to give us like a backstory on. So you moved to America from...
Lupe Fuentes	So, I was born in Columbia.
Lupe Fiasco 	Which part?
Lupe Fuentes	Cali, Cali Columbia. Like Cartel de Cali.
Lupe Fiasco 	Oh, yes.
Lupe Fuentes	You will like that. So I moved from—I was born in Cali, Columbia. I was in Columbia for like.... ten years with my family. And then my mom and I moved to Spain.
Lupe Fiasco 	Hm.
Lupe Fuentes	And... yes. And when I was 21, I moved here. To LA.
Lupe Fiasco 	Wait, what part of Spain?
Lupe Fuentes	So I've been like a little gypsy.
Lupe Fiasco 	What part—
Lupe Fuentes	Uh, Madrid.
Lupe Fiasco 	Ah, Madrid. Never been there.
Lupe Fuentes	So I've been like a little gypsy my whole life. I feel like my whole life I have been an immigrant. My whole life. And it was such an adjustment from Columbia going to Spain even though Spain's the same language. It's, it's their culture is so different, the way that people think is so different, so it was a really big adjustment. And then when I moved here, when I was 21, I didn't speak any English. So that was also a big adjustment.
Lupe Fiasco 	Oh wow, wow. So you didn't pick up English, you didn't pick up English at all until you moved to the States?
Lupe Fuentes	Yes, no. I mean 'hello,' and like 'how are you' and stuff like that, but I could not carry a conversation in English. I remember when I first came here and like I would go to restaurants with like a group of people. And they will be talking, you know? About, just having a conversation. And I couldn't understand anything. It was so, I felt so helpless. And so... like, out of touch with everything. But then, you know, it was so empowering to really wanting to learn fast.
Lupe Fiasco 	Hm. How did you, how did you learn English? How did you start that process?
Lupe Fuentes	Talking. Just by talking to people, practicing. I didn't go to school, I just, I just learned.
Lupe Fiasco 	So you just immersed yourself in casual conversations with people until you learned English?
Lupe Fuentes	Into the culture, y'know, it's the best way. If you have to, you will learn.
Lupe Fiasco 	Hm.
Lupe Fuentes	And I had to.
Lupe Fiasco 	So when, when. Okay. So which, which culture do you identify with being the most, right? You say you're an immigrant, you always feel like an immigrant. Like do you feel that you're Columbian, do you feel like that you're Spanish? Like which one. Or are you just like I'm Latina, and that's it?
Lupe Fuentes	I don't feel like I'm from anywhere.
Lupe Fiasco 	Hm.
Lupe Fuentes	I feel like I'm a little bit Columbian, a little bit Spanish, a little bit American. You know? 'Cause I've spent time in this places and all of these places have made the person I am today. You know? And I don't feel like. If I'm hanging out with, you know, a group of Columbian people, they are way more Columbian than I am. If I'm hanging out with a group of Spanish people, I'm always [?] on Spanish. You know, I look completely different and, yeah. So I feel like I'm a mix of everything. I'm a citizen of the world. How about that?
Lupe Fiasco 	A citizen of the world? Look, okay, so look. Check this out, check this out.
Lupe Fuentes	Are you making fun of my accent?
Lupe Fiasco 	No! I like it, it's great. I wish—listen, trust me, if I had. When I'm not being professional, like when I'm not in situations like this and I have to be professional, like when I'm just around my house. Like it's constant accents. So I have a really nice Jamaican accent, there's a really nice—well, at least I think it's nice. Really nice British accent. I got a really, really wonderful—
Lupe Fuentes	Oh, you have to give me a British! You have to give a British now, please. It's my favorite!
Lupe Fiasco 	I can't.
Lupe Fuentes	It's my favorite!
Lupe Fiasco 	Listen. I can't really do it on demand.
Lupe Fuentes	Please, a little bit? A little bit, a little bit.
Lupe Fiasco 	I can't do it on demand. But what I will do is throughout the conversation. Like, I have to build up to it. I'mma just throw it out there, it's just gonna come.
Lupe Fuentes	Okay.
Lupe Fiasco 	Right? In the midst of response.
Lupe Fuentes	I will stay alert.
Lupe Fiasco 	But when I'm home, there's accents all day. There's types of random voices that come up. I think I got a bunch of different personalities, but... but yeah, so.
Lupe Fuentes	You have multiple personalities?
Lupe Fiasco 	I think. Maybe. Maybe not, I dunno.
Lupe Fuentes	That could be a gift—
Lupe Fiasco 	Maybe.
Lupe Fiasco 	That could be a gift in another way.
Lupe Fiasco 	Or a good way to get out of a prison charge, or something like that. Do you know the origin of our name, Lupe?
Lupe Fuentes	It's from the Virgin.
Lupe Fiasco 	Do you know our name—
Lupe Fuentes	Guadalupe, right?
Lupe Fiasco 	Ooh, no.
Lupe Fuentes	No?
Lupe Fiasco 	Nooo.
Lupe Fuentes	No, tell me, I don't know. Please, educate me. Enlighten me.
Lupe Fiasco 	Okay so check this out, right?
Lupe Fuentes	Yes.
Lupe Fiasco 	Check this out. Um.
Lupe Fuentes	I want to learn something.
Lupe Fiasco 	So, so what do you think Lupe comes from first?
Lupe Fuentes	From the Guadalupe Virgin.
Lupe Fiasco 	Alright, the Virgin of Guadalupe. Who is Mary.
Lupe Fuentes	Yes.
Lupe Fiasco 	Right? What is Guadalupe? Where does that come from, right? It's a—
Lupe Fuentes	I don't know, tell me.
Lupe Fiasco 	It's a town in Mexico, right?
Lupe Fuentes	Oh, wow. Mm hm.
Lupe Fiasco 	So when they say the Virgin of Guadalupe, they mean the virgin of that town. There's a guy that had that vision of the Virgin Mary, right, in that town. And then it became, y'know, she—it became synonymous with that town. This image of the Virgin Mary, right? So it became the Virgin of Guadalupe, right? The saint of that town.
Lupe Fuentes	Mm hm.
Lupe Fiasco 	Okay, so Guadalupe is this town, right in Mexico. Before Mary, before the vision. It was always this town.
Lupe Fuentes	Uh huh.
Lupe Fiasco 	So how did the town get that name? 'Cause it always wasn't named Guadalupe.
Lupe Fuentes	Oh, wow, okay, yeah-yeah, yea.
Lupe Fiasco 	It was probably named something else, who knows?
Lupe Fuentes	So how? How did the town get that name?
Lupe Fiasco 	Okay, alright, so here we go, you ready? Check this out. What language do you think Guadalupe is?
Lupe Fuentes	Spanish. Latin.
Lupe Fiasco 	Why do you think it's Latin?
Lupe Fuentes	I don't know, 'cause you was talking a really long time ago.
Lupe Fiasco 	Hmm. Okay, so Lupe or Lupo is Latin, rigt?
Lupe Fuentes	Oh, well I knew that. So Lupus is in Latin, it's a, it's a, wolf, right?
Lupe Fiasco 	A wolf right, a wolf.
Lupe Fuentes	Mm hm, it's a wolf.
Lupe Fiasco 	But what's 'guada'?
Lupe Fuentes	I don't know.
Lupe Fiasco 	'Cause it's two, right? It's Guadalupe.
Lupe Fuentes	What's Guada, what's Guada?
Lupe Fiasco 	So Lupe is Latin, 'kay. Guada is Arabic.
Lupe Fuentes	Oh, wow, what does it mean?
Lupe Fiasco 	So 'guada' is a mispronunciation. And what is it, is waiidi. Waiidi. So it's waiddi. But I guess if you pronounce it with a Spanish tongue, it's like guadi, gua-da, gua-gua, rigt. But its waidi. So waidi is Arabic for river. Or like riverbed, right? So Guadalupe means river of the wolf, right? And—
Lupe Fuentes	That's so beautiful.
Lupe Fiasco 	And so there's a river in Spain. The reason you have an Arabic word for a river in Spain is because of the Moors who conquered Spain.
Lupe Fuentes	Why?
Lupe Fiasco 	So when they conquered Spain, they brought in—
Lupe Fuentes	Oh, my god, you're full of knowledge.
Lupe Fiasco 	Look at this, ka-ppp.
Lupe Fuentes	No, I mean, yes. You—yes, I'm just learning so much. I feel enlightened.
Lupe Fiasco 	Alright, so when the, when the Moors came, right? They were Muslim. So when they came they brought all these Arabic words to Spain. And so they started to like—that's a river, oh no that's a waiddi. That's the river of the wolf, no that's the waiddi of loup. The river of the wolf. So Guadalupe is a mispronunciation of the Arabic word for river and then the Latin word for wolf, and you get river of the wolf which is a place in Spain. And then the people who are in Spain when they came over and invaded you know, South America and Mexico—
Lupe Fuentes	They were like this place is gonna be called like that—
Lupe Fiasco 	This place, called Guadalupe. And then the guy, he sees the Virgin Mary then it became a Virgin of Guadalupe. Then I'm born, you're born, right? I see my homie Guadalupe who does theater. And I take his name. Then—
Lupe Fuentes	You know that Guadalupe is not my real name. I wasn't born with that name.
Lupe Fiasco 	So—Me neither, Lupe's not my name either, see how this works?
Lupe Fuentes	Yeah, yeah. Uh huh.
Lupe Fiasco 	Okay, what's your real name? And then, how did you get Lupe?
Lupe Fuentes	My real name is so difficult to pronounce. That's the reason I changed it, because it was too hard for people to say it.
Lupe Fiasco 	Wait, it's so difficult that you can't even pronounce it? Is that how?
Lupe Fuentes	No, I can. So my name is Zuleidy Piedrahita Vergara. And it's very long.
Lupe Fiasco 	Wait. Wait, wait. Say it again.
Lupe Fuentes	My real name is—
Lupe Fiasco 	Say it again.
Lupe Fuentes	The name I was born with, okay. Zuleydy—
Lupe Fiasco 	Zuleydy—
Lupe Fuentes	Piedrahita Vergara.
Lupe Fiasco 	W-W-Wait, say the second one again.
Lupe Fuentes	You see how you can't say it? That's the reason I changed it. Okay, Zuleidy. And it's really hard—Z as in zebra, u-l-e-y-d-y. Zuleydy—
Lupe Fiasco 	Zuleydy.
Lupe Fuentes	Piedrahita—which is a town in Spain—Vergara. Like Sofía Vergara.
Lupe Fiasco 	Okay, Vergara and Zuleydy are easy. But what's the middle one?
Lupe Fuentes	Mm hm. Piedrahita.
Lupe Fiasco 	Piedrahita...
Lupe Fuentes	That's literally a town in Spain. Small town. Close by Madrid, I believe.
Lupe Fiasco 	So how did you get the name Lupe, then?
Lupe Fuentes	So the name came because... before I came here, um. I wanted to change my name because I knew it was too hard to say for people here. So I wanted to change it. And my mom... I have always been close with my mom, and she's always been supportive of all my crazy adventures, right? And she's a very religious person. And it came from her, from the virgin of Guadalupe.
Lupe Fiasco 	Oh, wow.
Lupe Fuentes	Uh huh.
Lupe Fiasco 	Oh, wow, shout out to mama.
Lupe Fuentes	Uh huh. I know, right? I know. Yes.
Lupe Fiasco 	Okay, so. So, when did you get the name Lupe? Like when. Like how old were you?
Lupe Fuentes	Hm, let's say, 2006?
Lupe Fiasco 	Oh wow, recent. Not that long ago. Hm.
Lupe Fuentes	2006.
Lupe Fiasco 	Um, and did you make that like your real name officially, like legally? Or did you—
Lupe Fuentes	Yes, I did.
Lupe Fiasco 	Oh, okay.
Lupe Fuentes	I did.
Lupe Fiasco 	Wow. I wanted to change my name to uh—'cause my full name is Wasalu. Mine's kinda hard to say too. Wasalu.
Lupe Fuentes	Wasalu.
Lupe Fiasco 	The middle one's not, Muhammad.
Lupe Fuentes	Muhammad.
Lupe Fiasco 	Jaco. So that's my full name.
Lupe Fuentes	Wasalu Muhammad Jaco.
Lupe Fiasco 	Right.
Lupe Fuentes	That's sexy.
Lupe Fiasco 	Thanks. I, thank you. And I wanted to change my first name so bad when I was a kid. I was like, I hate this name. This name is stupid—
Lupe Fuentes	I mean, imagine Zuleydy.
Lupe Fiasco 	Zuleydy is—
Lupe Fuentes	I got it in a school for that name.
Lupe Fiasco 	What was your, what was your—what name did they make fun of you in school because of your real name? What did they call you?
Lupe Fuentes	Okay, Zuleydy. Okay, there was a drink in Columbia named Kool-Aid, okay? And they would make fun of me, changing my name to Kool-Lady, y'know 'cause Zuleydy is short of Zuleydy, Zuli. And I hated it so much.
Lupe Fiasco 	Oh, yo! Wait, wait, hold on. My mind is blown, check this out! Okay, so first they used to call you Kool-Lady in school, right? They called you Kool-Lady? Is that how it works? Okay, cool.
Lupe Fuentes	I hated it.
Lupe Fiasco 	They used to call me, they called me Wash-the-Shoe. So I was Wash-the-Shoe, yeah. That was me.
Lupe Fuentes	Oh, no!
Lupe Fiasco 	Hey man, my shoes are dirty. Why don't you Wash-the-Shoe? And it's like aight, aight okay. Wait, so, so Zuleidy. Zuli is short for Zuleidy?
Lupe Fuentes	Uh huh.
Lupe Fiasco 	Ooh, check this out. Ready for this tidbit?
Lupe Fuentes	Ooh, what?
Lupe Fiasco 	A little tidbit. Also in high school, because I thought that I was Mexican in high school. I used to hang out with all the Mexicans, and the Latinos, and the Latinas. I did.
Lupe Fuentes	Okay, so you were down, you were a cholo. Down for life.
Lupe Fiasco 	My socks were really high.
Lupe Fuentes	Your socks were up, uh huh. Like this one.
Lupe Fiasco 	Oh, yeah. We got to get you some high socks, okay. The higher the socks, the downer the foo. So—
Lupe Fuentes	Uh huh. Thank you, I appreciate that.
Lupe Fiasco 	No, we gonna get you some new socks with your name on them, some Lupe-branded socks so people can walk around and be a cholo. Okay, so check this out.
Lupe Fuentes	You have to send those to me.
Lupe Fiasco 	Guess the name of my Mexican girlfriend in high school.
Lupe Fuentes	Lupe?
Lupe Fiasco 	No, man.
Lupe Fuentes	I'm kidding. Ha-ha-ha. Um, uh, Mary. Maria. Okay, so I don't know.
Lupe Fiasco 	Suli.
Lupe Fuentes	Stop it, you kidding me.
Lupe Fiasco 	I swear.
Lupe Fuentes	No, you're joking.
Lupe Fiasco 	I swear, I swear, listen, I swear. It was Suli.
Lupe Fuentes	Okay. Wow, that's, that's random. That's really random.
Lupe Fiasco 	Look how interconnected and interwoven everything is. Muy loco. How did you get into music? And no, no like uh... no, like, gas. Like you're like a really talented, super good DJ.
Lupe Fuentes	Thank you.
Lupe Fiasco 	You know what I'm sayin'?
Lupe Fuentes	Thanks, thanks, yeah. Thank you.
Lupe Fiasco 	Like, where does that come into?
Lupe Fuentes	How did I get into DJing? Honestly, when I was in Spain growing up... uh, I was a really... I just learned this word actually. I was like a latchkey kid. I was just free when I was growing up, I was really free. I never, I never like—I never had a lot of control, y'know, by my parents, so.
Lupe Fiasco 	So you were a bad kid, you were bad basically what you—
Lupe Fuentes	I wasn't a bad kid, I was a really good kid.
Lupe Fiasco 	You were bad.
Lupe Fuentes	No, I was a really good kid. I was just a bit lost, okay, at that time.
Lupe Fiasco 	Alright.
Lupe Fuentes	And it wasn't my fault, y'know.
Lupe Fiasco 	Whose fault was it then?
Lupe Fuentes	I don't know. Whose fault, um.
Lupe Fiasco 	It was your fault. No, it was your fault.
Lupe Fuentes	No, listen. So, so I will go out a lot. And I will, uh, and I just met people and I will go to this park where, um, there were all these kids uh break dancing and rapping, and making music. And I will just, I've always been really—like I always love to create whether it was, y'know, music or any video or movies. I always since I was a kid I always loved to create. Or paint graffiti, or whatever. And when I got old enough to be able to go to clubs, I loved DJs. I loved DJs and—
Lupe Fiasco 	Wait, wait, wait. Who was that? Was that your servant who just came in?
Lupe Fuentes	My friend. Servant, why do you say that? This is my friend.
Lupe Fiasco 	Is that a servant, a ghost?
Lupe Fuentes	Okay, listen. It's my friend, and guess what she brought me? Wait.
Lupe Fiasco 	A birthday cake? What is this?
Lupe Fuentes	It's called a michelada. It's a Mexican drink.
Lupe Fiasco 	I know what a michelada is.
Lupe Fuentes	A michelada—you know what a michelada is?
Lupe Fiasco 	I know what a michelada is, yeah.
Lupe Fuentes	Ah, it's my favorite, it's so good. And it's full of—
Lupe Fiasco 	Beer.
Lupe Fuentes	Vitamins.
Lupe Fiasco 	And beer, right? It's full of...
Lupe Fuentes	And vitamins. Because it has, y'know, vegetables inside...
Lupe Fiasco 	It's beer.
Lupe Fuentes	Yeah, full of vitamins and beer. Vitamins with beer.
Lupe Fiasco 	Okay.
Lupe Fuentes	Yes! Oh, wow that's, that's good. I should create that, vitamin beer.
Lupe Fiasco 	You're drinking it right now, what're you talking about, you should create it? That's a humongous beer, I just wanna put that out there as well. That's huge, that's a lot of alcohol right there. So you just have...
Lupe Fuentes	Do you drink?
Lupe Fiasco 	You just have servants who slide in and just like give you platters of food and drinks just randomly throughout the day?
Lupe Fuentes	That's how I like it, baby.
Lupe Fiasco 	I like it, I'm not mad.
Lupe Fuentes	Do you drink?
Lupe Fiasco 	Uh uh. I don't, I never drank.
Lupe Fuentes	Are you sober? Never, ever? Ever?
Lupe Fiasco 	Never, there was only two times. One time—maybe two. One real time where I drank, but it was on accident. And... I was at a party, and y'know, my home was like 'yo you want something to drink?' And I was like 'yeah, let me get a Sprite' but in his mind, he's probably thinking like, 'oh, you want vodka with Sprite.' And I was like 'nah, I just want Sprite.' So he bought me like a Sprite with all kinds of whatever in it. And I sipped it and I didn't know what it was. And I was like 'oh, that's not, that's something in there.' And he's like—
Lupe Fuentes	Sprite.
Lupe Fiasco 	I was like I just want Sprite, he's like 'oh you don't want drugs in the Sprite?' I was like 'nah, I just want regular Sprite.' So that's the only official time that I've like sipped alcohol and maybe swallowed. But other than that, no.
Lupe Fuentes	So how come?
Lupe Fiasco 	Um. Stop getting away from you sneaking into these clubs, 'kay? We gotta talk about how you became a DJ.
Lupe Fuentes	Okay, so I wasn't sneaking into these clubs. Okay, so, 13, we moved to Spain. I was just, y'know, I had to adjust to a complete new culture. So, I was really eager to make friends in school. And they made music, and did break dancing, and I got really inspired by them. And I guess that was my first introduction to music because nobody in my family made music, or act, or did anything creative before. So I didn't have that example, or that role model to look up to. So it was in the street, honestly. I learned it out, that's how I learned everything.
Lupe Fiasco 	In the streets?
Lupe Fuentes	You know I love—in the streets. I really, I wasn't the type of y'know, kid that, that had y'know, had a family that had all those resources, y'know? So I have to look for the resources on my own. And, yeah. I mean going out, and just making friends that were DJS. And be able to start playing music, y'know, when they were not using their equipment. And that's how I pretty much got into music. And then when I moved here, um. I met this—I was married before. And my husband was a singer and a bass player. So in 2010, I believe, he was recording an album. And in the place he was recording an album, there was other studios. So, I will come to just hang out and I met friends in the studio that were making other type of music. And I just got really into it. And I'm a really techy person, so I learned how to—I started learning how to produce in Pro Tools at that time. And I loved it, y'know. I love to sink my teeth into something and just like, ride it until the wheels fall off. And music did that for me, it was so therapeutic. And back then, I was suffering like with a lot of anxiety, and music really helped me so much through that.
Lupe Fiasco 	Hm.
Lupe Fuentes	So it was also like a creative outlet for, y'know, all the things I've been through.
Lupe Fiasco 	Hm, interesting.
Lupe Fuentes	Yeah.
Lupe Fiasco 	Who was like your guide in the music space? Is there like some names that you can drop? Like people who—
Lupe Fuentes	You mean like a mentor?
Lupe Fiasco 	Yeah, yeah yeah.
Lupe Fuentes	Yeah, oh my god honestly, I have had a handful of mentors since I started creating music. Um, one of them was Roger Sanchez. He was a New York DJ, and he was a producer as well, and he taught me everything pretty much I know about production. And he was the first person to actually. I remember I went to his studio like when I first started, and he like copied his sample drive into my drive. It was like terabytes and terabytes of samples and all sorts of um, synthesizers, et cetera. And, y'know, it meant a lot to me, for somebody to like back me up that way, especially being a woman, and especially coming from where I come from, y'know?
Lupe Fiasco 	So it's rare to like meet a woman who produces, right? Um, like there's—I know women who are CEOS of companies, record executives, show promoters. You know, the whole range of the music business, but whenever it comes down to production specifically. Um, there's this—
Lupe Fuentes	Why do you think that is?
Lupe Fiasco 	I was gonna ask you, as a woman, as a woman in music who does production. Do you bump into a lot of women producers?
Lupe Fuentes	No, not at all. Not at all, very, very few. And I think it's because... it's society, y'know. We're not told that we can do those jobs. More and more the tables are turning, but I feel like in the past we were very much told what you do and who to be as women. And now we are, now the world is changing. It's more inclusion. And, and, I love that, and I feel like at the same time we need to educate men to be more open-minded to welcome women into, into the work, into the environment. Because so far it's really hard, actually, to make a way for yourself in the music industry being a woman and being a producer. Or doing a man's job or even being a DJ, it's so hard. It's so, like the opportunities are not there and also, y'know, in terms of like collaborating with men... I have experienced like sexism, or like people blocking me, y'know, opportunities. Just for being a woman or for having been in the adult industry, y'know.
Lupe Fiasco 	I'm trying to think of like why that is, y'know. Like there's a lot of like women songwriters, um. And like when did production become such a masculine kind of thing? You know, um. And like who—
Lupe Fuentes	It's because of a very technical thing. If you want to be a producer, you have to spend a lot of hours with a computer, y'know. With the technology and learning how to work a program or many programs, y'know. And learning that whole, y'know, how it works, and how plug-ins work is a very, very technical and time-consuming, uh, job. Or, yeah, career. It's very... you are by yourself on your computer for many, many hours. When I started producing, like the first three years that I was producing I wasn't doing nothing else but that. I was on my computer so many hours, like months and months. And I loved it. It was something so different for me. So I think that's why. It's not enough opportunity, I feel like it's not enough... uh, it's not enough opportunity for women. It's not enough mentorship and it's also not enough role models that we can like, 'oh yes, I can do that too.'
Lupe Fiasco 	Hm. I think sometimes, like when women are in the studio, and I've worked with, I've worked with women at every level in the music business. And there is this kind of sense that when women come into the studio, it's almost like they're just there for decoration. You know, it's like you definitely—
Lupe Fuentes	Oh, my god.
Lupe Fiasco 	You decorate the studio with women, right? Um, and you're there to kind of like show off. Y'know, like look what I can do.
Lupe Fuentes	That stinks.
Lupe Fiasco 	The misogyny of like the music business, sort of patriarchy of the music business, it's like when you think of what is the role—because there's roles of like, y'know, official roles. Like that woman is Senior VP of such and such, right? And that woman is the head of this, and that woman is the head of this department, the head of that department, right? Um, but then there's like okay well what are the unofficial roles, right? And it becomes like well, I'm in the studio either they're singing, or they're writing, right? Or it's like this decoration, like this guy just brought in a bunch of girls just to kind of be in the, in the midst, right? Um, and y'know. I kind of wonder like how like, like people like you are definitely—
Lupe Fuentes	How what?
Lupe Fiasco 	—subverting that. And I've met women along the way who are changing that, that narrative, right. Um, but it's definitely there. Where are you with the music? What are you currently doing on the music side of things?
Lupe Fuentes	Y'know, I was making a lot of music. And then in 2020, I stopped for a full year. I just took a break, I was going through a lot of like personal things, and I just decided to take a break. And right now I'm actually starting again to feel inspired because before I was like—a whole 2020, I would literally sit in my computer and just trying to get inspired, and try to, y'know. Create something, and I couldn't. I just couldn't. You know what—has that ever happened to you? That you're going through something personally, and you can just, it just doesn't come out?
Lupe Fiasco 	Yeah, but I'm also really lazy, so. I can't, sometimes I can't. It's like.
Lupe Fuentes	What, what?
Lupe Fiasco 	It's like I really don't wanna do this right now.
Lupe Fuentes	You're really lazy, tell me a little about that.
Lupe Fiasco 	Really lazy.
Lupe Fuentes	Tell me about that.
Lupe Fiasco 	Um.
Lupe Fuentes	You are?
Lupe Fiasco 	Maybe? Maybe I'm lazy. I do go through personal stuff, for sure. I definitely go through personal things and, y'know, it has an impact on. Like you said, you want to do like something for the world, y'know. You kind of just want to be internal for awhile, focus on your own things and not constantly be like presentation mode. Like 'hey, look what I'm doing for you, ah.' You know, be of service to people. Um, but then other times when that's not the case, um. It kind of comes down to... I've been in the business for so long, and I've done so much that when I find myself kind of lapping myself, like coming back around to something I already did, then I like 'Oh, I got to stop.' Right? Because I'm just basic—I'm not blazing a new path. Like I'm just doing something I did before, right? And being a—
Lupe Fuentes	I think that's what happened to me.
Lupe Fiasco 	Is it? Is that what happened to you? 'Cause that sounds like something I just said. Don't take my thing, Lupe. Like that's my thing, that's my... that's.
Lupe Fuentes	I wanted to steal your theory, I wanted to steal your theory. Anyways, let me. That's what happened to me. Really. I was making the same song over and over again, and I got bored. So I want to change my sound, and I've been looking for exactly what I want to do, but I feel like I'm not there, yet.
Lupe Fiasco 	Yeah. I was on input mode for like maybe three or four years. And it was just kind of like, I don't feel like—I feel like if I create something, in, in those moments, that it's not gonna have a real high value, right? 'Cause I want to make things that are like classic. That are going to last a hundred years.
Lupe Fuentes	What inspires you?
Lupe Fiasco 	Money.
Lupe Fuentes	What inspires you?
Lupe Fiasco 	Money. Lots of money. Um. No, I think it's like... it's weird. Being in the music business and like having to do things that you don't want to do is weird. Because then you start—you, you feel like... okay, to be successful in the music business, I have to make songs that sound like this and sound like that. Now personally, and artistically, I don't care about those songs, right? But, they're really successful, y'know? Or they'll open you up to do all kinds of crazy stuff. But it doesn't satisfy me personally, right? And so the personal stuff isn't successful in that way, y'know. It's not selling a bunch of records, it's not on the radio, um. It's not in the clubs. It's just like a thing that you made. But that thing that you made is like really, really inspiring, right? But it doesn't pay the bills. And when you kind of get good at, uh. When you get good at like making music to pay the bills, and making music that's, y'know, personally satisfying. Um, it gets in conflict. Like you get in fights with yourself, right? Like you get in these fights of like, y'know. I could always make those big hit records but they're not gonna really mean anything to me but they're gonna pay the bills. And I need to pay the bills, right? And so, it's this constant battle of like what's authentic to me but then, what do I need to sacrifice personally to take care of the bills. You know, and take care of different things that are around me.
Lupe Fuentes	I was thinking, y'know. That an artist like you who has big songs that a lot of people know. And how do you go about—do you ever get tired of having to perform the same songs that you have maybe performed so many times before and you probably don't feel like you want to perform the new shit that you probably just made, right? How do you, how do you go about that? Or is that something that happens to you, do you feel that way?
Lupe Fiasco 	Yeah, yeah. You have to kind of like—especially when you make things that you don't really...
Lupe Fuentes	People love.
Lupe Fiasco 	—Connect with. But people love it, right? But you don't really connect with it. Or it's—you're past it, right. Um, sometimes you just gotta close your eyes and do it, y'know. There is no coming to terms with it.
Lupe Fuentes	You gotta close your eyes and do it.
Lupe Fiasco 	Literally. You just close your eyes and—there are so many concerts that I've done where. I was on stage with my eyes closed, right? And it was like either with sunglasses on or, y'know, you're so faraway from the. People notice, right? But your eyes are closed because it's like emotion or passion. But it's really just kind of like I gotta get through this song. Y'know, and the only way that I can get through this song...
Lupe Fuentes	So is it like—
Lupe Fiasco 	Is if I close my eyes.
Lupe Fuentes	'This song again, fuck.'
Lupe Fiasco 	No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't, I wouldn't say it like that. It's sometimes, on a bigger level. It's like 'oh, this city again.' Y'know, oh we're in this venue again. Like we were just here y'know like a year ago, y'know. And you're just kinda 'Oh we're back in this place again. All right, let's go,' y'know. And it is that type of piece. But it's other times, y'know, where it isn't like that. Like you're super excited, and I always—I never, I never, I done it a few times. But I never try and cheat my fans, y'know, so I wanna make sure every time I hit the stage that it's poppin', everybody's gonna get excited. And what sometimes happens is, I'll do like two-hour shows, y'know. So I'm probably contracted to do an hour, um. But then I'd be like I want to make sure that fans get the most out of this experience. So I'll perform like ten extra songs or it'll turn into like a triple encore or something like that. To kind of make up for that, y'know, like. 'Man, this night I really didn't wanna be here.' And sometimes I'll tell fans that, like 'Man I didn't really want to be here but here we are, you're here. I'm gonna be a professional about it, let's go. Let's just do it.' Um.
Lupe Fuentes	Have you ever said that on a mic, on a show? Have you ever said something like that?
Lupe Fiasco 	Yes.
Lupe Fuentes	That's ballsy, that's ballsy.
Lupe Fiasco 	I had one show, it was at a school. It was like at a college. And it was massive. It was like me, uh, there was some big rock band, um I think Third Eye Blind or something like it was some big rock band. And it's like 'Okay, let's do the show.' And I came out and there was something wrong with uh, like the sound. Like the monitor, I couldn't hear myself or something like that. And I got really, really frustrated and like really, really like insecure. And, I left. Like one song in, maybe two songs in...
Lupe Fuentes	Mic drop.
Lupe Fiasco 	And I left. And the lady who booked the show was crying, like she was like literally shaking and crying 'cause she couldn't believe it. The fans were—
Lupe Fuentes	How many people were there?
Lupe Fiasco 	—Booing.
Lupe Fuentes	How many people were there?
Lupe Fiasco 	Imagine like a college stadium.
Lupe Fuentes	Uh huh.
Lupe Fiasco 	It was like a college stadium full of people, right? So thousands and thousands of people, right? And I just couldn't. I think it was in New York or somewhere upstate New York or something like that and I was just like, 'I can't do this.' And I left. And we jumped in the car and left. And it was like... I, I feel like it was a range of emotions. Y'know, like.
Lupe Fuentes	Really?
Lupe Fiasco 	It was super, it was super—
Lupe Fuentes	Like what?
Lupe Fiasco 	Because I feel like man I could've did it, like I could've powered through it. But I didn't want to, y'know. It's like I don't wanna do that. I don't wanna power through it anymore. Like I shouldn't have to power to through these things. And I was like, I just wanna leave. Like I don't wanna be here right now, y'know. Like this is the last place on earth that I wanna be right now. And yes, it's a stadium full of people. I got paid something crazy. I didn't get the money, but it was still like, it was a big cheque. And I was like, I was like 'nah, I don't wanna be here.'
Lupe Fuentes	That was just an act of rebellion. Standing up for your true self. Maybe.
Lupe Fiasco 	Maybe. But then you get regret. You think like should I have powered through it? And then you're like 'it's done.' So yeah, that's the only show—
Lupe Fuentes	I did something like that. I did something like that for New Year's Eve 2019, I believe. I had a show in LA and it was a good show. And I just didn't showed up. I didn't know, I didn't know.
Lupe Fiasco 	Wow. Wooow.
Lupe Fuentes	New Year's Eve and—but, I was in my head. I was just really, really insecure and I couldn't. A big part of it is how you feel, right, performing.
Lupe Fiasco 	Yeah, it is. It is. So maybe like that entertainer, or that person needs to have all this random stuff, right, as motivation for them to get on stage, right? And people think like 'oh, that person's being egotistical, that person's being Hollywood, or that person's being whatever.' But it really might be like the more stuff that they have backstage, the more insecure that they are, the more of a motivation they need to get through what this thing is, right? So it's tough. Even when you're on stage and having fun, and jumping around and dancing, and doing all that stuff. It's still like the eyes of the world are judging you, so it's tough. It's a tough job.
Lupe Fuentes	Do you think that's natural. I don't think like for a human being, right, a person. It's not natural to maybe have depression to entertain or be judged by so many people. And, yeah. To be able to go on stage and feel amazing, a lot of people just can't, y'know? The pressure is too great.
Lupe Fiasco 	Especially when I can't have micheladas. So, just imagine. You gotta—
Lupe Fuentes	I wanna have a little toast, in your honor.
Lupe Fiasco 	That's a giant—
Lupe Fuentes	You can have a virgin michelada!
Lupe Fiasco 	Why? Why would I want that?
Lupe Fuentes	Do you like tomato juice?
Lupe Fiasco 	No. It's tomato juice in there?
Lupe Fuentes	Yeah, this is all tomato juice.
Lupe Fiasco 	That's gross.
Lupe Fuentes	Well, and beer. Don't say that.
Lupe Fiasco 	Tomato juice is gross.
Lupe Fuentes	No, tomato juice is so good.
Lupe Fiasco 	It's gross.
Lupe Fuentes	And you see this? It's Tajín, it's like a Mexican spice. Oh, so good. Mm hm.
Lupe Fiasco 	You need micheladas to get through this podcast? Oh, my god.
Lupe Fuentes	No, listen. But I love micheladas.
Lupe Fiasco 	Hey, listen.
Lupe Fuentes	I love micheladas, it's so good.
Lupe Fiasco 	I'm not knockin' it, enjoy, enjoy.
Lupe Fuentes	Are you judging me?
Lupe Fiasco 	Yes, yes I am. I am definitely.
Lupe Fuentes	You are not.
Lupe Fiasco 	I am.
Lupe Fuentes	To go on stage, Lupe Fiasco doesn't drink, sober, what do you use to change your mind or to feel, you know, feel before going on stage?
Lupe Fiasco 	Hm. I, uh, I listen to very kinda like powerful, anthemic music. Um, so I got like a little playlist of like power songs to get me hyped up to go on. To kind of set the mood, and the conditions. Um. Then that's it. That's all I can really do. I don't have any vices, or anything like that.
Lupe Fuentes	What's your vice?
Lupe Fiasco 	I don't have any, I don't have any vices.
Lupe Fuentes	Tell me a secret.
Lupe Fiasco 	I don't have any secrets.
Lupe Fuentes	Lupe, don't do this to me! C'mon, open up a little bit, honey.
Lupe Fiasco 	I see, I see where you're trying to take this, and I'm not going. I'm not going.
Lupe Fuentes	You're not going there?
Lupe Fiasco 	No. Listen, you're a very powerful, popular person, right? And I know if I start divulging things, to you on your show in the comfort of this one-on-one that it's gonna turn into like some frontpage headlines. And I don't have that type of uh, security to keep the stalkers away, so.
Lupe Fuentes	Okay, cool. Okay, so let's go in a different direction.
Lupe Fiasco 	Tryna get me.
Lupe Fuentes	I'm gonna be good to you, I'm gonna be good to you.
Lupe Fiasco 	Thank you.
Lupe Fuentes	Don't be scared, baby don't be scared.
Lupe Fiasco 	Stop with this, I see what you tryna do. It's not gonna work, 'kay? It's not gonna work.
Lupe Fuentes	What's next for Lupe Fiasco?
Lupe Fiasco 	Ay, there we go. Man, waiting for COVID to be over. And—
Lupe Fuentes	You put me on ice.
Lupe Fiasco 	I put you on Tajín. There's ice in the Tajín, you know what I'm sayin'?
Lupe Fuentes	Okay, a little bit of ice with Tajín.
Lupe Fiasco 	There you go. Um, I. Waiting for COVID to be over, right, so we can go back on the road, y'know. Um, and then I want to see my mom. I haven't seen my mom in like, since COVID. So I got to go see her. Um, see the fam. And then I just, I just want to be away for a little while. Might go to Japan or something like that. Just kind of...
Lupe Fuentes	Why Japan? Why always Japan?
Lupe Fiasco 	I love it. It's a great place.
Lupe Fuentes	What do you love so much about it?
Lupe Fiasco 	I like the swords and the fighting and the vending machines.
Lupe Fuentes	I always see the swords on your social media. Do you train everyday?
Lupe Fiasco 	Yeah, I train everyday. For the most part, sporadically throughout the day. Like if I'm just sitting here, doing nothing. I'll put on my sword, start chopping.
Lupe Fuentes	That's so nice. 'I put on my sword.' So if somebody comes into your house at the middle of the night, okay. Unannounced, you have this sword. What would you do? What would happen?
Lupe Fiasco 	If somebody came into my house, I'd shoot them. I'd definitely shoot them. If it was like a—
Lupe Fuentes	You have guns?
Lupe Fiasco 	Maybe. Break into my house and find out, Lupe, how 'bout that. Why don't you—nah, I'm just joking. Um.
Lupe Fuentes	Where do you live, Lupe?
Lupe Fiasco 	Um, I live in a secret, I live in a secret...
Lupe Fuentes	It's somewhere in the United States? Best kept secret.
Lupe Fiasco 	Open Google Maps and just type in 'Lupe.' And then I live there, it'll pop up like 'Lupe lives here, ping.' Um, I put—your house might come up. Um, nah I mean. If somebody came into my house, the first thing I wouldn't go for is a sword. Like for me, the sword isn't about uh, self-defense. It's more about like self, like self-training. Self-refinement. Y'know, um. My guns are for self-defense and all that stuff, but, y'know, hopefully no one comes in my house. Don't send anybody to my house Lupe for secrets and spice, okay?
Lupe Fuentes	I'm not gonna. What if I need some Tajín? Who am I going to ask?
Lupe Fiasco 	Yo, what's, what's next for you? You got this podcast, it's finna be an amazing success, let's knock on all kinds of wood but, yeah. You excited about your podcast?
Lupe Fuentes	I'm so excited about the podcast.
Lupe Fiasco 	Any plans for the future?
Lupe Fuentes	Thank you for being on.
Lupe Fiasco 	Any plans?
Lupe Fuentes	Yes, yes. I mean I have so many plans. This is the very first episode, so—
Lupe Fiasco 	Bam!
Lupe Fuentes	So happy.
Lupe Fiasco 	Lupe versus Lupe.
Lupe Fuentes	Lupe versus Lupe. Listen, do you remember a long time ago. Maybe this was like 2016, something like that. And you sent me this album cover.
Lupe Fiasco 	Oh yeah.
Lupe Fuentes	Lupe versus Lupe. You remember?
Lupe Fiasco 	Yes.
Lupe Fuentes	You remember?
Lupe Fiasco 	Yes, I do.
Lupe Fuentes	Do you have it there?
Lupe Fiasco 	I'm gonna find it.
Lupe Fuentes	No, don't do this to me. No! Please. No. It's bad, it's bad.
Lupe Fiasco 	No, it's not bad. So, for, so—hold on, let me do this. Let me save it. Okay, I just pulled it offline. So. Yeah, for folks that don't know, listen. Fans of Lupe Fiasco and fans of Lupe Fuentes, make us an album cover. Right? This. this would be like a first like fan thing, right? Like, make. Winner of like uh, the winner, uh, who makes the best album cover of Lupe versus Lupe, um. What should we give 'em? Like a free t-shirt or something like that?
Lupe Fuentes	What about this, the winner we will give him a free t-shirt. And if we ever do a collab, we'll use it.
Lupe Fiasco 	Ooh.
Lupe Fuentes	Somewhere.
Lupe Fiasco 	Ooh.
Lupe Fuentes	Somewhere, we'll use it.
Lupe Fiasco 	Okay so check this out, y'all. This, this was the. This was the—it's nice, it's a nice picture. It's nice. It's nice me, young me, young you. Look at this, let me just show it. There it was everybody. That was the cover to the Lupe versus Lupe mixtape but uh, we need a new one. Yo, we should do—you know what, we're gonna do a song.
Lupe Fuentes	We need a new one.
Lupe Fiasco 	Yeah, we gotta do a song. We gonna do some songs, 'cause I think it's only right for there to be a real Lupe versus Lupe mixtape floating around. Maybe an EP or something like that.
Lupe Fuentes	So are you vegan?
Lupe Fiasco 	No.
Lupe Fuentes	You're not vegan? I thought you were.
Lupe Fiasco 	No, why would I be?
Lupe Fuentes	You're like super healthy.
Lupe Fiasco 	Why would I be vegan? I'm healthy 'cause of all of the meat that I eat. That's what you're seeing. Healthy 'cause of the meat. The meat.
Lupe Fuentes	The meat. Which meat?
Lupe Fiasco 	You should put some chicken in that michelada. For your micelada poyoi. You know what I'm sayin'?
Lupe Fuentes	Yeah.
Lupe Fiasco 	Yo, so—
Lupe Fuentes	It actually has a pickle. Do you like pickles?
Lupe Fiasco 	What is this drink that you're drinking? Is there anything else in there? Is it like, fish sticks in there?
Lupe Fuentes	It's a house, it's a fish stick in there, it's a piece of pizza...
Lupe Fiasco 	This is a ridiculous drink. It's a ridiculous drink. Um.
Lupe Fuentes	To all of the fans of micheladas out there, they understand me.
Lupe Fiasco 	I'm not mad, I'm not mad at it at all. Um, where we at? Alright, so, your podcast, The Lupe Fuentes Experience, is jumping off.
Lupe Fuentes	Mm hm.
Lupe Fiasco 	Episode number one, yay. Lupe versus Lupe. The first episode, this is perfect.
Lupe Fuentes	Yay!
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