116427-faction-change

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			With the release of Mega servers there's been a lot of moving around of characters and people trying to figure out where they want to go. I feel that having the option to switch factions would be a great addition to the game for both players and devs. I realize this would require a lot of effort to implement this, but I'm really hoping for this to come about in the foreseeable future.	
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Agreed. Let people fanction change for a fee like WoW.
 
1. Supports Carbine and WS
 
2. players get what they want.
 
win win for everyone :)	
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I would definitely support this idea(would buy at least 2 myself)
 
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			Have considered this myself. Would obviously require work but it would be appreciated as an option.	
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			Would not be a good idea. I wouldn't mind switching to a neutral faction (e.g. C.o.G.S.); but faction switching in W* would rightfully get you shot on sight by the other faction. 	
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Would not be a good idea. I wouldn't mind switching to a neutral faction (e.g. C.o.G.S.); but faction switching in W* would rightfully get you shot on sight by the other faction. 
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Ah, no this depends on how it is handled. I did not for a minute think I would take my Mechari Stalker over to the Exiles, I thought instead I would opt to swap and be given the option of the available Exile races for that class to choose from. So no kill on sight issues at all.
 
It is how WoW handles faction transfers. You buy the faction swap and then when you next log in you pick the race, apperance, and name (if you want to change) for your chracter. Any faction specific items, achievements and reputation also get swapped over the coresponding alternatives.
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No it doesn't. I am 100% opposed to a game entirely based on a bloody war of attrition between two factions allowing faction defection. 
 
That said; taking an existing character and turning them into a whole new character (e.g. Chua Engineer -> Aurin Stalker) while keeping your name / stuff might be ok... but then you have the issue of the Faction specific achievements / content/ etc.... 
 
Overall I'm going to toss my vote in as a resounding NO. YMMV, but this would be a very bad move IMO.
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There is no defection, this is not a lore issue. This is an entirely game mechanics backroom job. It would not affect the lore or the story at all because it would not be part of the lore or story. You completely remove any characteristics that are related to your previous faction, no one would know you had transferred, apart from you telling them in out of character channels.
 
Other games have solved the issue of faction specific achievements etc. as I already mentioned so while it would be time consuming to sort out it is something that other games have achieved (though of course later in their life cycles than Wildstar is now.)
 
Simply the only affect on the game it has is if you find your friends (or the Guild you want to join) are all playing Exile but you maxed out your Dominion character you can change to Exile and play with them.
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Why not just... roll a new toon then?
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Lets say you found the perfect guild. They are Raiding on just the right schedule for you, however they are the wrong faction. What a pain! Do you reroll go from 1-50, through all the attunement, all the farming of rep, all the farming of eldergems again? Chances are that is just too demoralising a prospect for many, especially as the game gets older and the amount of time invested in a single character increases and increases.
 
That is where such a service comes into play. You pay so you do not have to loose months worth of progress just to play with who you want to.
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Takes a week to get 0-50 and a few days to attune. If you run all the quests levelling you are already capped or very close to rep capped for attunement. You don't lose months of progress; you have a great character you can enjoy; if you wan't another make another. 
 
I never understand peoples wish to make a Developer give them new and improved ways to not play the game they are playing.
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Sure the basics can be achieved quickly but that does not mean you do not loose months of progress. I do not just have a level 50 character, I have a level 50 that I have spent over 4 months playing and developing. They have tradeskill, costumes, dyes, achievements, reputation, etc. that has all taken time to develop.
 
Not everyone enjoys alts, some people enjoy playing the game with just the one character. It might not be the same way you enjoy, fair enough, put it is a very valid playstyle and does not mean they are avoiding playing the game just avoiding repeating it.
 
There are also those that love alts, but still do not want to loose that investment because it means something to them. They have a connection with that character due to the amount of time spent and they do not want to abandon it due to arbitary faction restrictions.
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Takes a week to get 0-50 and a few days to attune. If you run all the quests levelling you are already capped or very close to rep capped for attunement. You don't lose months of progress; you have a great character you can enjoy; if you wan't another make another. 
 
I never understand peoples wish to make a Developer give them new and improved ways to not play the game they are playing.
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You don't lose anything. Your character doesn't get deleted; you just have 2 characters with their own levels of progress. It's not as if you must delete your first character to make another. If you want to make a single character to play everything with, a game like FFXIV where you can switch roles and there are no serious player factions would probably be best. I've got 4 toons at 50, I play them all and never feel like I'm repeating or as if I wasted my time on any of them. If you wan't to play both factions do it; but don't try and skip out on the full game-play process for laziness sake or for the sake of instant gratification.
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And I'll never understand peoples asinine assumption that everyone plays the same way they do.  Not to mention your statement is completely backwards because allowing things like faction change helps prevent burnout, and usually keeps people playing longer.
 
Power-levelling to 50 in a week sounds about as much fun as watching paint dry.  People who play with this mentality are the prime group who is always unhappy with the content provided.
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We aren't discussing playing the game differently, we are discussing AVOIDING PLAYING THE GAME at all.
 
 
 
Not playing the game is not the same as having different tastes in gameplay. you wan't a single character in W* pick a faction, pick a race and pick a class; you wan't multiples make multiples. 
 
There is NO reason to demand the actual game-play required to progress a character be removed.
 
FYI: I have insulted no one here, please do try to differentiate statements of motivation from insult, as I agree 100% that insults have no place in any discussion.
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Firstly, you will find if you call people lazy most will take to be an insult, especially when it is not their intention at all. 
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Well its a wonder where you got that then, as I called no one lazy: I simply made a factual statement that the motivation behind removing gameplay from character progress is virtually always for reason such as laziness , instant gratification, etc. as I stated exactly:
 
If you misinterpreted that as suggesting YOU or anyone else in particular were lazy, then I apologise for your misapprehension, as I directed that at no one, it was merely a rhetorical statement of intent behind skipping content.
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While you did not aim it a particular person you did intend it to apply it to some (or all) of those people with the same goal as the people posting here and that IS insulting. Intended or not.
 
 
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I've given you the benefit of the doubt and clarified my statement. If you or anyone else choose to believe it means anything besides what I've explained it does it's a personal issue, and there isn't anything I can do to help that.
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			I agree with EVERYTHING that Nazryn has posted. 100% agree.	
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As I said it may not have been intended but it is the net result, and something to bare in mind when posting in the future.
 
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I think my contributions to this thread are over. There is no reason I can personally justify to pressure the Devs to make such a system. We'll just have to agree to disagree. You are welcome to request it, and I'm welcome to request it not be considered. 
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			The reason I'm requesting this is because I've had to re-roll my character 4 times in order to fit in with a guild I'm trying to raid with. My first character was on a dead server where everyone quit. Next character I rerolled on a new server but I didn't like the class (which is fine). Next character my class was not needed for the raid group I was trying to get into and was the only raid group that fit my schedule on the server. Finally I rerolled again and put in all my hard work onto that character, including Elder Gems, GA progression, gear, max Beloved rep with all daily factions, and all my housing decor/dyes/costumes. However, with the addition of Mega servers, everything is getting shifted and thrown around with guilds. While it's mostly a good thing. Often it can leave people who are devoted to a guild left out because half of the guild wants to merge with someone else. I'm now in an awkward spot of having to join a less progressed GA guild or reroll to another server again and it's extremely demoralizing. This is exactly why I think we should have the option to faction change, since it only adds ease of access to the player-base.	
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			Regardless of what anyone thinks of any individual player's utilization of such a service, it would be easy money for them, which is ultimately better for the long-term health of the game.	
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Regardless of what anyone thinks of any individual player's utilization of such a service, it would be easy money for them, which is ultimately better for the long-term health of the game.
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