133541-its-a-disgrace-so-many-are-playing-pve-servers

== Content ==
			Because we don't want to get ganked. A lot of people feel this way. 	
----
			
hey baddie open world pvp in a theme park mmo really? Join the Battlegrounds and the arenas where the cool kids are. Open world wildstar at release was just 50 level people griefing lowbies leveling up. And since the dungeons/battlegrounds/arenas are cross-server yea you betcha we gonna choose the PvE server.
 
See you in the arenas m8	
----
			
Most of the old players are stuck in PvP servers.
Open free migrate and PvP will get lot of players!
Its really a shame that they set it to 28th instead 29th day -.-
As there is a lot PvP players and PvP guilds "stuck".	
----
			
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-	
----
			Yeah, slowly read your post out loud and you'll see exactly why I don't anymore.	
----
			I want to kill AI stuff with people not  shoot at them. i can go play quake for that.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Cubical	
----
			Because that's were my guild is.	
----
			I Scured	
----
			I don't like pvp.	
----
			
shhh Im gonna tell you a secret. 
 
 
there are other forms of multiplayer than pvp
 
dont tell anyone tho !	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			Because for every unicorn like you claim to be (non-ganker / griefer) there are 999 people who aren't.	
----
			Most MMO players like to choose when and where to PvP (aka instanced PvP,) not when some 12 yr old decides he wants to camp your level 10 toon on a level 50 for "fun."	
----
			
Because they dont want to be ganked
Because its where their friends are
Because they are not into PVP and play the game for its PVE endgame
 
Take your pick
 
People dont play online games to be competitive, they do it to play with other people, wanting to play a game where its more based off Co-op is not a bad thing
its just a matter of opinion	
----
	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Most MMO players like to choose when and where to PvP (aka instanced PvP,) not when some 12 yr old decides he wants to camp your level 10 toon on a level 50 for "fun."
----
			I like PvP. I love World PvP. I hate when a max-lvl character somes in and oneshots my lvl20 character for no reason. That is the ONLY thing. Remove that and i'll happily go on PvP server.	
----
			What does PVP have to do with an MMO? Unless I missed this game becoming a MOBA after F2P I don't see a connection 	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			Hilarious reading haha...	
----
			griefing is rampant in mmorpgs these days. People on the internet are just more prone to griefing.I get enough pvp from the mobas I play.Also, wildstar is not a good game for open world pvp. I'd rather play DAOC for that.	
----
			I play to do group pve content like most others.  This games raids are some of the best I have played.	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			I'm excited to come back to a PvP server! :)	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			
I do have a couple characters on Warhound.  One was an experiment while Entity was having issues and the other was a Dominion toon I exiled there to make room for another Exile character.
 
In fact I have vague plans to level one or both of them up... via pvp instances.  No way in heck am I gonna take them Open World there's no point.  If I'm going to make myself a target for somebody else, I'd better be compensated for it via xp, prestige and gold.  Ayup, I'm a mercenary.	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
I like PvP. I love World PvP. I hate when a max-lvl character somes in and oneshots my lvl20 character for no reason. That is the ONLY thing. Remove that and i'll happily go on PvP server.
----
			Because *cupcake* jackwagon roflstomp gankers and griefers ruin it for the rest of us.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by beattlebilly	
----
			
For me and my circle personally it's because the PvP servers and PvE servers lack such difference I might as well be on a PvE server. There isn't much incentive other than pure thrill and the act of"ganking"(in the sense of surprise attacks) and honestly some days i just feel like farming or something in the open world without being bothered.
 
It'd be a whole other story if it was a game like DAOC, WAR, or a game that gave incentives/objectives to do world pvp such as giving more prestige points for killing people equal to or above your level. However that is not the case in Wildstar as I'm aware of so I dabble on pvp server and main on the PvE server.
 
Only time I've ever enjoyed being on a PvP server purely was when it was a PvP-RP server. I'm hoping that MAYBE, just MAYBE there may be a RP crowd build up on the pvp server this time, but most of the RPers I know are sticking to Entity.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Typrop	
----
			Ignore this. Got the threads mixed up.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Crow God	
----
			
fighting somebody a higher level than you is next to pointless anyway.  it's not a skill based player match in these games it is who ever has higher numbers
 
that is why i get annoyed when the same guy ask me to duel  20 times in a row and sends the pop up request and he is 30 levels higher than me so i ignore him.
 
http://southpark.cc.com/clips/09c7ww/living-to-win
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Cubical	
----
			It's a known fact that common players on PvP servers are more disrespectful, more childish and have a bigger e-*cupcake* than players on PvE servers.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Roman Triller	
----
			
You want to know why?  I'll tell you why OP.  Come a little closer....that's it bit more and I'll tell you.....
 
Want to know the dirty little secret?  Choice.
 
GLHF	
----
			
Because you can easily participate in PvP battles even on a PvE server, just toggle your PvP flag. Playing on a PvE server doesn't limit you to PvE activities only.
On the other hand, if you are playing on a PvP server, there's no way to avoid being forced into PvP.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Marcelina	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
It's a known fact that common players on PvP servers are more disrespectful, more childish and have a bigger e-*cupcake* than players on PvE servers.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
----
			Just created a character and was hitting my first mob (literally), suddenly got dead and a player came over and started dancing.Thats why i dont play PVP servers on MMO's . Dont get it wrong, lots of ppl like me enjoy  FAIR pvp, thats why MOBAs are so popular this days.  Open world pvp is just ganking 99% of times.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Nuit	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
PvP Servers > PvE Servers
 
My opinion is the best. What's this thing about others not being allowed to have the same opinion as me? Nu uh! HurrrrrrrrrrrDuurrrrrrrrrr.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
It's a known fact that common players on PvP servers are more disrespectful, more childish and have a bigger e-*cupcake* than players on PvE servers.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			
Way back in good ole WoW I made a toon on a PvP server- got to level 28 and went to Darkshire- where i got griefed by level 40-50's constantly....that was the last time I EVER made another toon on a PvP server!!!
 
As someone here posted- you may not be a douchebag and grief players but theres 999 others who will get a kick out of griefing players!
 
Heck Age of Conan saw  the entire guild of "Goonswarm" banned for griefing players at ress points and lowbie areas........its just the nature of a lot of people and with the ease of access to the internet.....PvP servers can become horrific with griefing......	
----
			For my taste, ganking =/= pvp. I don't enjoy killing random red guy, while he is fighting on 3mob and 30% hp left. And since, you can que for battlegrounds and arenas while playing in pve servers, what would be meaning of playing pvp servers? I enjoy pvp when its competitive. When you have proper enemy that aware there will be fight, that can put a fight.	
----
			PVP brings out the worst people in gaming. Back before the OP was probably alive I was there when Dark Age of Camelot introduced their first PVP server. What a freaking train wreck! It was like the Purge only more messed up. 	
----
			
Memories of PVP
 
 	
----
			
If you wanna pvp, got play LoL or something.
 
Lots of people don't want to be interupted while playing	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Because *cupcake* jackwagon roflstomp gankers and griefers ruin it for the rest of us.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Hilarious reading haha...
----
			
Can't be bothered to get ganked over and over by some real life losers.
 
I prefer to do battlegrounds instead.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by BobBarnsen	
----
			I prefer PvP but all of my friends want to play on PvE. We are new to this game and we figured that most veterans will be out ganking on PvP servers since they have a huge lead over us. I'd rather not deal with this while I'm playing.	
----
			
LOL @ the OP.
 
Being ganked while leveling is not fun. And pvp is not "true immersion." It's a nuisance and most games don't have good enough pvp systems to warrant being pulled into it unwillingly all the time. Wildstar included.	
----
			
PvP is where true fun is. Structured or open world... just bring it on!
 
What's the point of having 2 opposing factions if we are gonna wave and dance to each other ?
Wildstar has amazing plot for RPPvP server, too bad it doesn't have one :P
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Tomerant	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Hilarious reading haha...
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
I like PvP. I love World PvP. I hate when a max-lvl character somes in and oneshots my lvl20 character for no reason. That is the ONLY thing. Remove that and i'll happily go on PvP server.
----
			Used to be on the PVP server until it was out of players. I moved all my characters to the PVE server. I'm gonna give it some time to see how it works out before I consider moving back.	
----
			Few reasons ill list top 3 are my motives but others are valid reasons too1) PvE server had the largest active player base before the move to F2P2) PvE servers are generally more popular making forming groups and filling guilds easier3) While world pvp is fun and i love it it is also a hindrance to leveling and i don't really have enough time anymore to get camped by a large group of people just because i fought someone in a 1v1 and they lost and got butthurt about it (this happened a lot on the first week of the original launch)4) PVP is part of mmos but that is what structured pvp is for and thats all most people want5) Friends that brought them are probably on the PvE server see #16) Believe it or not the thing that brings most people to this game is the tone of the story or the difficulty of the PvE NOT how well the combat transfers to a pvp enviroment	
----
			
Coming from Meridian59 to games like Mortal, Darkfall etc I normally like open world PvP.
 
But if there is PvP it has to be full immersion aka open world full-loot.
 
Another reason has already been said several times. It's no fun to get ganked by a 20 level above griefer while questing.
 
So as Wildstar offers no real open world PvP and as I don't have that much time to level up quickly atm I play wildstar after work to relax,
 
a bit off topic:
Imho real open pvp with full loot also needs less vertically progression. There has to be a chance to kill someone with skill which implies that damage, health and so on doesn't scale too much.
Themepark games mostly don't provide such mechanics so you have absolutely no chance against someone 10-15 levels above yourself or like in some games even against someone with the same level but uber epic gear.
Only PvP MMO without full loot I see myself playing will be Camelot Unchained, if the RvR there is going to be good again (after all those who failed like WAR, GW2 and TESO)	
----
			ive always played on PVP and my wildstar toons were on pvp but as soon as im actually able to login i will choose pve server because being ganked is just annoying now and you know all the russians will be on pvp ones zerging and being a pain in the arse	
----
			It's not a disgrace it is a playstyle choice, I don't like PVP and I don't want to be harassed by griefers and gankers on a PVP server when I'm just trying to have some levelling fun	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
For me and my circle personally it's because the PvP servers and PvE servers lack such difference I might as well be on a PvE server. There isn't much incentive other than pure thrill and the act of"ganking"(in the sense of surprise attacks) and honestly some days i just feel like farming or something in the open world without being bothered.
 
It'd be a whole other story if it was a game like DAOC, WAR, or a game that gave incentives/objectives to do world pvp such as giving more prestige points for killing people equal to or above your level. However that is not the case in Wildstar as I'm aware of so I dabble on pvp server and main on the PvE server.
 
Only time I've ever enjoyed being on a PvP server purely was when it was a PvP-RP server. I'm hoping that MAYBE, just MAYBE there may be a RP crowd build up on the pvp server this time, but most of the RPers I know are sticking to Entity.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
I don't know, sound to me like you just made that up.
----
			Ill admit I always thought PVP servers would be more populated than PVE. More possibilities, unpredictability, dymanic, and depth. The whole 'too scared to be constantly ganked' is rare from what I've seen so far. It just feels more like the  'real world' compared to PVE.	
----
			Screw open world PVP. I want to get shit done, not bother with griefers.	
----
			
Nobody likes forced pvp
You can pvp on pve server
You can still do Bgs , arenas, warplots  and duels
You can even unflag yourself in a pve server and see if you can spark some interest
But this is all based on your choice	
----
			
I was SO hoping pure PVP games like LOL getting popular would do away with this but here goes.
 
It really, truly is this simple.
 
"I dont like pvp"	
----
			Not sure how the PvP server is so far for F2P but as far as pre-F2P everyone abandoned the PvP server for good reason (partly the state of imbalance and neglect to PvP).I think there's also this idea that people like PvP servers because it's what they saw in WoW attached to a "High" population. Do people really enjoy being ganked/ganking other that much? I don't honestly think so, there were ever only 2-3 gankers per character for me personally while leveling in WoW and my best guess was people just do it to be part of an active server.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Naix	
----
			I like the option to avoid PvP If I dont feel like pvping and pve servers do that for you :D	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Nobody likes forced pvp
 
----
			It is a disgrace how some try to force their own preference and opinion on others, like it was somehow objective fact.	
----
			Peace of mind. I enjoy questing and doing challenges in peace without having to worry about getting attacked by other players. Although PvP does spice things up quite a bit, it just isn't for me.	
----
			
If it was a fresh start sure, I'd hop on a pvp server in a second.
 
Starting on a old server where people can log on a twink and kill you instantly while your trying to quest...yea no thx.	
----
			While I really do enjoy PvP, and even started out in WildStar on a PvP server...I don't want to do that anymore. Not right now, anyway. I have spent literally a year (since Last September) in my guild here on the PvE server. I've made good friends there, have raided into DataScape, and gotten to know the community really well. I like PvP, but I will no longer play on the PvP server in WildStar. I'm a 1 character kinda person, and that 1 character is on Entity.	
----
			
I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT ABILITIES TO PRESS AND I AM YET TO FIND HOW TO OPEN MY JOURNAL LOG, AND THIS KID WANTS ME TO PLAY IN PVP REALM HAHAHA
NICE COMMUNITY IN THIS GAME , MAN	
----
			and ye pvp you have the problem if you are a persoon who plays alone end you end up againts 2 or more people well and dont get me started about gankers campers cant finish a quest becouse the enemy team is camping itif you real want pvp go play archage there you can even kill your own faction even do it is allot of drama on that game	
----
			The PvP has been and will always be a dead server	
----
			
Here is a helpful list of the usual carebear excuses for not playing on a PvP server:
 
"My guild/friend/coworkers/grandma" play on PvE servers
"I like pvp servers, I really do. Except when people kill me."	
----
			
It comes down to why you play the gameAfter a long day I am usually tired, pissed off and usually pretty anxious, but being able to log in an play a game helps relax and help me find a bit of enjoyment. Getting ganked and camped by someone can completely undo this and leave me worse off then before. I really don't care about factions, I honestly would play even if there were no opposing groups. I can't commit hours and hours to this game everyday to be able to keep up with others in PvP, but in PvE I can stay at my level and progress as I see fit.
 	
----
			The pvp in this game sucks, its like playing digital flash light tag. And things never die. Why would I want to put myself through that?	
----
			
GW2 should have PvP server. The way it lowers your level and gear stat load to be appropriate to the zone level would eliminate the "high level ganking low level" issue almost entirely.
In most games I play, I flag myself for PvP on a PvE server while leveling. Almost never see any action, but when I do it's usually pretty respectful. Other faction walks up and sees me red (wait, wtf is this?), then lets me finish the quest mob or whatever before jumping me. In the rush after an expansion or big patch, I would see people that had attacked me staying flagged long after the fact. Having the choice not to flag if I'm in the mood for grinding out some levels is the selling point for me. I wish more people would flag themselves on Pve servers, though.	
----
			
You know I what really like seeing on PvP servers. All the 'leet' PvPers who cry because no one is on a PvP server due to the griefing of lowbies by maxed out toons. Where are all those PvPers who fight the griefers?
 
Never see them anywhere aside from the forums crying that people choose PvE servers.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Mranere	
----
			I never play on PvP servers because PVP is and always will be crap in games like this. And what ruins PvP in all MMOs is people being assholes.	
----
			
I think we should all read this thread in another way. To me this thread sounds something alike to this:
 
"I can't find enough people to gank, so I'll shit talk on the forums so people come challenge me".	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
You can PvP on PvE realms; it's just that on the PvE realms it's always by mutual consent.
----
			
I just started playing WildStar today and I really don't need other people hunting me down while I'm still trying to learn what all my abilities do.
 
MIGHT AS WELL JOIN THE PVP SERVER THOUGH since there's currently a 3 hour queue for the PVE server...	
----
			Before the f2p change when players knew free transfers would shut down, the most annoying PvP players (personality-wise) from the PvE server moved over to the PvP server. So yeah, I'm just glad that I'm not over there. If you're on the Dommie side of warhound I'm sure you know the ones.
			
				
	Edited September 29, 2015 by Naix	
----
			
I'll say this, there was no waiting in line to get on.
 
It will work for a few days till things settle down.	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
...
 
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			When the game first launched I started off on a PVP server.  I was primarilly interested in leveling so I never really initiated hostilities; however,  I was ganked more times then I care to remember especially in the late end zones.  I've since decided that a open PVP environment that lacks any form of eq loss, or gold loss, or penalty isn't pvp it's just a fps game.  If I want to play FPS I'll go play Battlefield.  If I want to PVP in Wildstar I'll stick with structued PVP where I can at least get rewards for my efforts and not have to start off half dead because I'm busy fighting a mob.  So yes, I renewed by subscription a week early just so I could transfer my characters to the PVE server before the F2P went live.  Besides I had a feeling that most of the returnees were going to be stuck on the pve server since they didn't extend the open transfer past the f2p date.  I didn't really want to play on an empty server again.	
----
			
PvP servers need risks to all involved parties. Not having item/coin loot greatly diminishes said risk and the only real "benefit" is feeling good about killing another player. That's all fine and good assuming that the deck isn't stacked (e.g. higher stats, gear, ability availability, etc.).
 
I played on Rallos Zek (free for all PvP +/- 4 level range) in EQ for ~6 years. Having 100% coin and a single item loot off a player corpse was only a partial driver of what made it great. Back in those days there were no such thing as server transfers, name changes, etc. Your #1 most valuable asset was your reputation. If you tarnished that then you were unable to convince the server community that you were anything more than a griefer.
 
Also these days there is way more MMO competition so people don't blink twice about up and quitting to go play a different one.	
----
			
Because the 'PvP' server is basically a PvE server where you can attack the other
faction.If they went on and actually made proper PvP zones maybe people would care more.
I don't consider allowing PvP combat in a map filled with PvE content any kind of serious PvP
and I'm sure I'm not alone.
Also,attacking and griefing low level undergeared players is not PvP either.	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			I dont play PVP servers because I dont really want to get killed every few min buy a high lvl while im trying to quest. And I also dont like how just ..terrible and rude people are to each other on pvp servers.	
----
			I don't PVP in MMO's unless I am forced too like in SWG	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
It's because the PvP servers literally DIED, there was nobody to do the content with, so everyone moved to the PvE megaserver.
 
Source: I was on a PvP server
----
			
Most PvP is great.
Most PvPers... not so much.	
----
			Because I don't need to be on a PvP server to enjoy PvP. 	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Here is a helpful list of the usual carebear excuses for not playing on a PvP server:
 
"My guild/friend/coworkers/grandma" play on PvE servers
"I like pvp servers, I really do. Except when people kill me."
----
			
As an interesting story, I was on my lowbie engineer in Algoroc when a level 50 stalker came in to grief some lowbies. I hopped on my 50 SS and chased him down and killed him. Actually quite fun and the lowbies questing was mostly unphased once the stalker had someone his own size on his tail.
 
I've said it a million times: Give high level players incentive to defend lowbies and lowbies wont be as terrified of the PvP servers AND you'll open up another facet of PvP.
 
I think some titles and costumes would be fantastic.	
----
			
 The pvp system in this game was very shortcoming... That's the one thing i still give props to blizz for. was they had a very well rounded world system for player combat.. even pve servers saw a good share of pvp..and why?
 
Because there was a motive to do so.. get your war bear for killing the opposing fractions leaders.. 
Try to earn your world pvp achievments.. get your garrabashi trinket.
Then you would get the greifers that would target low level questing hubs than players would hop on mains and fight back.. it was good times.. to me that is what world pvp should be like.. this game had zero of it.
So I found it pointless to participate in it.
			
				
	Edited September 30, 2015 by Rebel Angel	
----
			
I might try PvP again.
 
I don't mind getting killed.
 
I do mind getting camped by a team of 20 preteens max level, killing me at respawn for over half an hour spamming me with 'you suck profanity, profanity, profanity) cough AOC cough.
 
it is not fun, I play to have fun.	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but
...
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
----
			
PvP servers are mostly filled with immature griefing scumbags.
 
I love PvP and can get more than enough on a PvE server, without putting up with your kind.	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer
----
			I was on Pergo way back when... Not sure where my characters are parked now, I'll find out when I log in tomorrow.	
----
			'the pvp people remind me of those strange dudes small group that go to fighting game tournaments..(that nobody watches but they think they are in some real life boxing match and talk about training and working out sitting on a couch counting frames all day long and other crazy stuff)  and its not even ones set up by nintendo or something like its just some dudes running it    that is reason enough for me not to go there to that pvp server that much or never.
			
				
	Edited September 30, 2015 by Cubical	
----
			Because I play an MMORPG to play with others not against them, and I enjoy their company which is why I am not off in singleplayer	
----
			I enjoy PvP in majority of MMO's. Just like to have it seperate to my PvE questing. Don't think there is anything wrong with that. 	
----
			because pvp in mmos is an afterthought and joke.	
----
			
You can do everything on a PvE server that you can on a PvP server with one important exception:
 
You can't be forced to participate in PvP with out mutual consent	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			
yup.  Higher levels ganking lowbies does NOT make a game fun imo (grievers can kiss my butt, dealt with it in wow for years, never again.).  
 
And what in the world are you talking about? PvE in a MMO/Multiplayer game is just fine.  Its the "Multiplayer" portion that makes it work heh.
I raid with friends, dungeons with friends, have a good time gaming,  so you sir make 0 sense.	
----
			It's not fun
			
				
	Edited September 30, 2015 by Equa1ity	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
You can do everything on a PvE server that you can on a PvP server with one important exception:
 
You can't be forced to participate in PvP with out mutual consent
----
			This thread though,,,,, top kek.	
----
			
I started in head start leveling, so there was no high levels griefing me.
 
I did, however, make multiple rivalries with the exiles racing through levels along with me. I think that added a lot to the leveling experience.
 
I also had a fair bit of fun in the daily zones.
 
That was a long time ago now...
			
				
	Edited September 30, 2015 by _Myst	
----
			I'm on PvE server because it has overwhelming majority on it :P I'm not good at PvP so I don't PvP....but I want to make a toon on a PvP server now, why not.	
----
			
Because there is a huge PVE - RP -Housing crew that go out hunting for costume pieces and decor that would like to do so in peace and quite. 
 
And the immersion they bring is amazing!	
----
			
When I played the game at launch, I did pick a PvP server. I liked it, and it was fun... Partly because I main Stalker and could easily avoid any fights I didn't want to fight. But then I switched to PvE as the game's population dwindled, and I really don't miss it enough to go back. The immersion and such is great, and world PvP is fun, but I quite like not getting trolled. It doesn't help that I'm the type to mind my own business and not mess with others unprovoked.
 
Even so... I wouldn't mind going back—it certainly makes for an interesting experience, at any rate—but my guild isn't exactly about to transfer away from Entity.
			
				
	Edited September 30, 2015 by Mu Nova	
----
			i play on PVE cuz its MMOs are meant to be relaxing games not open world ganking of 5v1s i get enough pvp in shooter games	
----
			I don't mind flagging for pvp just to have fun, but doing it while leveling and to be farmed for who knows how long? Forget it. That's not how I have fun in a game. If anything pvp servers are perfect examples creating a cyber bullies and 90% you'll run into those guys. The moment you kill the player that's beating you up..they'll call their guildies and log on their main toon for revenge.	
----
			Earlier I tried to make a pvp character just so I could play at all, but character creation seems to be pretty borked right now, so I couldn't even sneak in that way.  :P	
----
			Oh right, I forgot. Those people I run dungeons with and the guys I talked to in my guild arent real. So it isnt social interaction.Better roll a PvP character so I can be ganked while trying to quest, not like I had so much fun dealing with that BS while playing WoW. Had to play on a PvP server because thats where my friends went, getting ganked by someone with nothing better to do while your trying to mind your business is the exact opposite of fun.And fun is why you play a game.Its more of a disgrace to be told I cant play the game the way I want because Im not willing to turn myself into a high levels gank target. And as others have said, if you have to point out you arent a ganker, greifer, etc, then maybe you can see why people dont just jump onto the idea of joining a PvP server.	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
----
			
I don't get why you care how people play.
 
Ideally in a good MMORPG you have a lot of group content - since that's what MMORPGs do best and no other genre does.
 
Because, yes, if all one wants to do is solo, they should be playing any of the many far better single player games available.
 
Unfortunately, even though WildStar has some good group content it's even less likely that it'll get done by people flitting around in the F2P space, but this also affects PvP where it's hard to have rivalries and such when you don't see the players but every once in a blue moon.	
----
			
Played on both servers, and the best PVP funnily enough is had on the PVE server lol, people flag, randoms try to heal them and flag, big fights break out because people think screw it why not, i can always turn it off later.
I mean sure i cant always get into a fight, but i also dont have to go play an alt because i killed someone my level and he ran to get his whole guild, who end up camping lowbies for no reason afterward.
 
PVP servers are generally for people who suck at PVP and just want to gank newbs for ego points.	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Played on both servers, and the best PVP funnily enough is had on the PVE server lol, people flag, randoms try to heal them and flag, big fights break out because people think screw it why not, i can always turn it off later.
I mean sure i cant always get into a fight, but i also dont have to go play an alt because i killed someone my level and he ran to get his whole guild, who end up camping lowbies for no reason afterward.
 
PVP servers are generally for people who suck at PVP and just want to gank newbs for ego points.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
My most favorite thing about PvP servers is counter-PKing. Nothing more satisfying than dropping in on a greifer and watch them pass a brick while they frantically try to figure out what's going on. Even better if you save the lowbie in the process. 
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
That is true.
Was great at launch, sad it died off before F2P, guess well see how it turns out with all the new people.
----
			
WOW.......How stupid was this post??????
 
 
 
P.S It was pretty stupid	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Where is the fun in PvE? There is none, unless the useless baubles you can earn through it are still able to dazzle you.
At least fighting another player, even a lowbie, can be sort of fun. Fighting mobs never is. It could be more fun if they bothered calling level 50 for help, but until activity in high level zones picks up again, I'll keep hunting down lowbies for fun in between BGs.
----
			
Because, Uzafim, that's where my characters were before F2P.  I've gone to PvP to relearn the game with throwaway characters but won't stick with PvP after that.  After 15 years of playing mmorpgs I can't be bothered with PvP any more unless it's like my much-beloved Eve Online.  Apart from Eve, mmorpg pvp is cartoon-style combat - no loss, no real gain, no significant penalty for dying because you insta-pop back into the world good as new.  Where the hell is the fun in that watered-down travesty of pvp?
 
I love all the gung-ho keyboard warriors who think computer game pvp is something special.  It's not, really, not even in Eve, although that's the best pvp out there.  :D
			
				
	Edited September 30, 2015 by Coggage	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Because, Uzafim, that's where my characters were before F2P.  I've gone to PvP to relearn the game with throwaway characters but won't stick with PvP after that.  After 15 years of playing mmorpgs I can't be bothered with PvP any more unless it's like my much-beloved Eve Online.  Apart from Eve, mmorpg pvp is cartoon-style combat - no loss, no real gain, no significant penalty for dying because you insta-pop back into the world good as new.  Where the hell is the fun in that watered-down travesty of pvp?
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Where's the fun in that?
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Schadenfreude.
----
			
People doesnt go in pvp server because they are cryin pussies. 
Nothing else.	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
I don't like players.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			I don't like players.	
----
			
It's not so bad. I only got ganked ten times in two hours by level 50 stalker super leet PvPers. Still made it to level 10.
 
You griefers, er... I mean PvPers are so cool and skilled, no wonder everyone is on the PvP servers.	
----
			after years of playing pvp mmo's i wonder where you all find all those griefers and gankers	
----
			
Many PvPers are gankers.  Some can say they aren't, but the majority are.  Many PvPers are rude as in the post where the one poster is name calling.  In PvP, you get that all the damned time.  I was a staunch PvPer in SWTOR until PvPers got so mind numbingly childish that it was not worth playing,  Look at the posts above and you'll see that they are the same way here.
 
If you want more people to PvP, then tell the others (like the poster above) to grow up.  That's all there is to it. Get then to stop the cussing, name calling childish attitudes and more people night join the PvP servers.
			
				
	Edited September 30, 2015 by Alaricsevgirl	
----
			hmm...didin't know PVE means single player  :huh:	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Many PvPers are gankers.  Some can say they aren't, but the majority are.  Many PvPers are rude as in the post where the one poster is name calling.  In PvP, you get that all the damned time.  I was a staunch PvPer in SWTOR until PvPers got so mind numbingly childish that it was not worth playing,  Look at the posts above and you'll see that they are the same way here.
 
If you want more people to PvP, then tell the others (like the poster above) to grow up.  That's all there is to it. Get then to stop the cussing, name calling childish attitudes and more people night join the PvP servers.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
PvP is the only way to have any fun in MMORPGs.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Shouldn't you then actually be on a PvP server?
You know, you can kill them there.
----
			
biggest reason is because our guild moved from pvp to pve ( eugenics ) there was free transfers but pve people couldnt transfer to pvp realms but pvp could to pve. so we transfered to a pve realm to get more people to the raiding team and all other serious raiding guilds followed which pretty much ended up killing the pvp servers
 
/sadbe
 
edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/WildStar/comments/2h2qs0/megaservers_and_the_future_of_eugenic/
			
				
	Edited September 30, 2015 by sadbe	
----
			
I rather team up to beat hard bosses than to get ganked by a max level player while I'm still leveling.
 
Also, I don't want to read how someone *cupcake*ed my mom or something like that, or I'd still be playing League of Legends.
			
				
	Edited September 30, 2015 by Kwigo	
----
			
Majority of the people who whine about gankers and stuff live in same utopia where Russia and China are the World's end.
In reality they have no idea about how the stuff works there. I don't believe WS is any different in this case. Minority are the actual gankers or shit faces, but the thing is that even that is lower now that MOBA culture is on rise. The shit, yes the shit has moved to the MOBAs in most cases.
For me PvP servers are usually very nice experiences even thou that i don't care about PvP anymore almost at all. For me it is very hard to get known to people and even harder to make friends (yes i'm scaredy-cat :D when it comes to people) and the best and caring people i seen were indeed in the PvP servers, again overall MMORPG experience and not WS	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
I have experienced much more idiocy from PvEers, both in game on on forums, in every MMO that I played for a little more than ten years. That include the time before I realized that PvP is the only way to have any fun in MMORPGs.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
I realized that PvP is the only way to have any fun in MMORPGs.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Considering you already well admitted that you spend your time ganking lowbies, I think you and I have a very different version of PvP.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
You don't know how to read.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
I do. You plainly said you hunt low level players.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Hilarious reading haha...
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Which you are misrepresenting as "you spend your time hunting lowbies" as if it was my only purpose and only activity in the game.
 
Attempting to have productive discussions with simpletons like you is extremely frustrating.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Not saying that it is all you do but I do have a question and this for any one that would kill a lowbie. Why?  What's the point? what do you gain from it?  To me it seems that a pvper would rather stalk to take on someone that can fight back. Again I don't care about griefers one way or another as I tend to avoid pvp servers. But this is more of me being curious as to why do it. 
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
To each their own, but PvP server is where the lore and setting makes the most sense, imo. 
----
			because if i actually do have the time to log into the game, i don't want to spend it being corpse camped.	
----
			Because I like real pvp. I want to fight people roughly the same level as me not overcompensating 50's looking for some schadenfreude.	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Which you are misrepresenting as "you spend your time hunting lowbies" as if it was my only purpose and only activity in the game.
 
Attempting to have productive discussions with simpletons like you is extremely frustrating.
----
			
be ause the transfers are closed right now and i have to wait till they are open duh!!!!
 
anyways i also made some friends on pve so il habe to see in a fee weeks BUT there are more people on the pvp server i noticd	
----
			I love Raiding, I hate PvP, simple solution, I rolled on a PvE Server	
----
			
Think about it this way - how many people play organized sports (PVE) vs running up to people on the street and punching them in the face (PVP). 
 
PVP oriented people are probably a minority in the grand scheme of things. 
 
Regardless, people should play how they want to play - whether that is PVE or PVP - and shouldn't have to be criticized for it. 	
----
			
False dichotomies, strawman arguments, confirmation bias everywhere. Urgh.
 
These threads never fail to remind me why I loathe most mmorpg players.	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
False dichotomies, strawman arguments, confirmation bias everywhere. Urgh.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer
----
			BGs and PVP gear brought us to this	
----
			I did my time on the WoW PVP servers from vanilla launch.  Once wrath launched and I started getting camped again by people who leveled to 80 overnight, I switched.  I was happier than Id ever been.  It just doesnt add anything, to me it isnt added immersion, its an added time sink.
			
				
	Edited September 30, 2015 by Dantos	
----
			Because World PvP is a broken and boring concept to 99% of the people that play this game. No one cares about your bad decision on picking the PvP server.	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Which you are misrepresenting as "you spend your time hunting lowbies" as if it was my only purpose and only activity in the game.
 
Attempting to have productive discussions with simpletons like you is extremely frustrating.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Schadenfreude.
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
 
I dont like PvP
----
			Because......and I can't stress this enough.......some people actually don't like pvp	
----
			
Golden, Golden comments...especially those who are butthurt :)
 
None of you legitly argue against my post, because you're-
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
afraid of engagement.
 
 
 
Have a wonderful PvE server lag everyone, while I finish up my Medic leveling to 50 and you watch the other faction members stand infront of you doing emotes, I heard all the roleplayers love that too! ^_^.
 
ps- DAOC was a sick game.	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Im not going to start flaming or anything but I just felt like I had to voice my opinion about this.
 
WHY ARE SO MANY CHOOSING PVE SERVERS!
 
 
I just dont buy the cheap "I dont like pvp"....why do you join an mmo then? Why not play a single player game instead?
 
PVP servers are true immersion, live and let live and the most realistic and authentic way to play and get thrills.
 
 
Buckle up and join more PVP servers everyone <3
 
PS: I am in no way a ganker or griefer I am a person that loves the thrill of what the game has to offer, not standing infront of your enemy and dancing like you're friends...cringe...
 
 
peace-
----
			because ppl will always take the easy way.	
----
			
I always thought PVP would be more populated until I realized PVP servers are not for the faint of heart.
Too many people in PVP (who felt incentive to join because of the PVE queue) were complaining about ganking and how it's killing the game. It was even to the point where these people reported it to the GMs as if the players are doing anything wrong. Ganking is expected in a PVP server in any game and it's the people not the game when it comes to this issue. Ultimately, I rather not have people in a PVP server if they don't want to be in it.	
----
			
MMO's have always been mainly PvE focused.
 
There are very few PvP based MMO and even fewer popular ones.
 
The vast majority of an MMO's population has always been, and will always be, PvE centric.
 
You're the minority here fella.	
----
			
I got my answer!  You're trying to shame PvE players into rolling on the PvP server so you can farm the newbie yard.  Thanks for clearing that up.
 
"Whatsamatter, you CHICKEN?"  What's next?  You going to Triple Dog Dare us? 	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
Golden, Golden comments...especially those who are butthurt :)
 
None of you legitly argue against my post, because you're-
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
afraid of engagement.
 
 
 
Have a wonderful PvE server lag everyone, while I finish up my Medic leveling to 50 and you watch the other faction members stand infront of you doing emotes, I heard all the roleplayers love that too! ^_^.
 
ps- DAOC was a sick game.
----
			pvp players are trying to pvp in the forum. Amazing stuff!	
----
			I'm surprised this thread has gone as long as it has.
			
				
	Edited September 30, 2015 by Remorrhaid	
----
			Well, it looks like we left constructive discussion behind a few pages back so I'm going to lock this up.	
----
			Sounds like someone is mad that there isn't enough people to open world "PVP" with. So you can't gank lowbies and stroke your e-peen, get over it.	
----
			Wildstar wasn't built with wPvP in mind so I see no point in joining a lower pop server. I also have friends on the PvE server.	
----
			
{| class="blockquote"
hey baddie open world pvp in a theme park mmo really? Join the Battlegrounds and the arenas where the cool kids are. Open world wildstar at release was just 50 level people griefing lowbies leveling up. And since the dungeons/battlegrounds/arenas are cross-server yea you betcha we gonna choose the PvE server.
 
See you in the arenas m8
 
oh yes, i remember this happening, ppl camping out quest areas and ganking solo ppl, was pathetic
----