Report 1525

Report #1525
Skillset: Poisons Skill: Dulak/Stupidity
 Org: Shofangi Status: Completed Sept 2016
Furies' Decision:
Solution 1 to be replaced with an emote.
Problem: When stupidity fires and replaces your command, one of the possible
things that it could replace it with is 'sip vial'. When the liquid rift is used
'sip vial' simply informs you that the vial contains nothing drinkable. Due to
how item targeting works this would always sip the first vial, so before liquid
rifts smart systems would arrange their vials such that the first vial contained
water and thus wouldn't impact combat by throwing a balance or drinking a
poison, those without such a system were subjected to randomly sipping whatever
happened to be in their first slot which almost always was a curative or a
poison. This report seeks to replace this with something that could actually
impact combat or to remove this possibility from stupidity.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #1: Remove 'sip vial' as one of the possibilities of a
 stupidity command replacement.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #2: Replace Replace 'sip vial' with 'smoke
 soothingsteam', keeping it inline with how 'sip vial'
 could potentially disrupt balances before the liquid
 rift.
[A: 0 R: 0] Solution #3: Replace Replace 'sip vial' with chances for 'sip
 health', 'sip mana', and 'sip bromides' for similar
 reasons as solution 2.
Player Comments:
---[Synkarin on 8/27 @ 03:09 writes]:
I think sol 1 is the best option. Puts everyone on the same level without having
to tweak things specifically to avoid it
---[Shango on 8/27 @ 03:15 writes]:
As per Solution 2, replacing it with sipping a particular venom would be rather
nice. But in terms of maintaining balance, Solution 1 is best
---[Raeri on 8/27 @ 03:16 writes]:
Solution 1
---[Wobou on 8/27 @ 15:40 writes]:
I wanted to include poisons because as a newbie I used to have a poison in my
first slot and was repeatedly dunked by stupidity which was fun, however not
everyone uses poisons at all so it would unfairly skew against classes that need
poison vials and it wouldn't make sense RP wise to just develop a random poison
from the aether.
---[Xenthos on 8/28 @ 03:41 writes]:
Solution 1-- though replacing it with an emote would keep stupidity at the same
power level as it currently is (rather than slightly bumping up the chances for
everything else). Even before the liquid rift, all you had to do was make sure
the first vial in your inventory was not sippable and it had the exact same
behaviour as stated in the problem here (also as noted in the problem).
---[Shedrin on 8/28 @ 17:47 writes]:
Solution 1 or Xenthos' suggestion works.
---[Falmiis on 8/31 @ 22:47 writes]:
Yeah I prefer Xenthos' suggestion.
---[Lerad on 9/1 @ 09:09 writes]:
I support solution 1, with or without Xenthos' suggestion
---[Lerad on 9/1 @ 09:09 writes]:
I support solution 1.
---[Wobou on 9/1 @ 12:25 writes]:
I'd be alright with replacing it with a particular emote. Right now it looks
like stupidity pulls from one of the following possibilities when it blocks a
command: secrets (which looks to me to have the highest chance), eat
sparkleberry, sip vial, kneel, yelling, random emote, sleep. In my test of 1000
commands it looks like all the options after secrets have somewhat equivalent
chances to proc (between 10-15%) where as secrets appears to proc 25% of the
time. So either we should replace sip vial with a particular emote as Xenthos
suggests or if it's totally removed then the probabilities of those other pools
should be increased slightly (by 2% or so) and secrets should remain the same.
Eat sparkleberry does not perform an outrift as well but I suppose that's an
issue for another day.
---[Wobou on 9/1 @ 12:29 writes]:
I really wish you could edit these comments. I'm an idiot, 'eat sparkleberry'
should be 'eat herb' above, I just happened to have sparkleberry out when I was
testing. So ignore my comment about outrifting. This does mean that there is a
similar issue with 'eat herb' though since that does not work on puritydust
which means the overhaul has nerfed that possibility of stupidity or buffed it
by making you eat sparkleberry as that's now the only herb you're likely to have
out.
---[Xenthos on 9/11 @ 01:22 writes]:
As a note: OUTR MISTLETOE, EAT HERB. You could always block the eat-herb aspect
of it that way too.
---[Dahlla on 9/26 @ 20:39 writes]:
Solution 1 seems to be the most fair. With or without Xenthos' suggestion.