126245-carrot-sproutling-pet-not-in-the-game-yet

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So it has been over a week since drop 5 and this is one of the only 2 pet that is still missing.
 
Can we have a word by carbine that this is in fact obtainable? and possibly tell us how because I am litterally going crazy trying to find it :(	
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			I think i've seen it in game, if i remember correctly you need to have cooking up to a certain skill level	
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I think i've seen it in game, if i remember correctly you need to have cooking up to a certain skill level
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Are you thinking of the celery sproutling? That one can be purchased from a vendor in the capital city after you get level 7 (almost max) cooking.
 
I haven't been able to find information about it, either. There are some people claiming to have seen it in-game, but there's always the possibility they just saw the Esper companion healing buddy. Never any definitive proof, no character names or screenshots, etc.
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celery is confirmed near max cooking since PTR.
 
nobody has any info about the carrot thats why i want a confirmation from a dev that it isnt bugged and is obtainable so we can hunt it and not waste our time trying stuff for nothing, or simply get from where we can obtain it	
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celery is confirmed near max cooking since PTR.
 
nobody has any info about the carrot thats why i want a confirmation from a dev that it isnt bugged and is obtainable so we can hunt it and not waste our time trying stuff for nothing, or simply get from where we can obtain it
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Why do I imagine some of the carbine staff laughing at the fact that out of all the things we couldn't find a carrot?
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It's like they don't carrot all.
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Now, I hope you won't feel the need tuber-ate me for not addressing this sooner. The root of this particular issue is complex, and I can't shallot a whole bunch of information about it at this point. Lettuce review the main questions:
 
1) Is the Carrot Sproutling available? Yes. Technically.
2) Are we happy with the acquisition means? It could be better.
 
We're working on it, though I can't leek anything further. Hopefully we'll produce a solution that will help that particular pet turnip.
 
*runs from the Pun Police*	
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Now, I hope you won't feel the need tuber-ate me for not addressing this sooner. The root of this particular issue is complex, and I can't shallot a whole bunch of information about it at this point. Lettuce review the main questions:
 
1) Is the Carrot Sproutling available? Yes. Technically.
2) Are we happy with the acquisition means? It could be better.
 
We're working on it, though I can't leek anything further. Hopefully we'll produce a solution that will help that particular pet turnip.
 
*runs from the Pun Police*
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Yep, Carrot is currently the only unfound pet in the game
 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QZKvbqgmUn3DYEl3E8UomJfdbVaxlByIvkFpQmEflnQ/edit#gid=0	
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Yep, Carrot is currently the only unfound pet in the game
 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QZKvbqgmUn3DYEl3E8UomJfdbVaxlByIvkFpQmEflnQ/edit#gid=0
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Now, I hope you won't feel the need tuber-ate me for not addressing this sooner. The root of this particular issue is complex, and I can't shallot a whole bunch of information about it at this point. Lettuce review the main questions:
 
1) Is the Carrot Sproutling available? Yes. Technically.
2) Are we happy with the acquisition means? It could be better.
 
We're working on it, though I can't leek anything further. Hopefully we'll produce a solution that will help that particular pet turnip.
 
*runs from the Pun Police*
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Update: Palmtop Taiga (Exile/Entity) has one. Rumors stating it's from the settler project in Thayd, unclear if it's possible to get it from the quest reward or from farming the mobs found underneath Thayd as part of that quest (area is called Thayd Public Works). May very well be trolling, killed a bunch of stuff down there and nothing yet. Screenshot from reddit.
 	
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TLDR I want to be a special snowflake 
 
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Update: Palmtop Taiga (Exile/Entity) has one. Rumors stating it's from the settler project in Thayd, unclear if it's possible to get it from the quest reward or from farming the mobs found underneath Thayd as part of that quest (area is called Thayd Public Works). May very well be trolling, killed a bunch of stuff down there and nothing yet. Screenshot from reddit.
 
 
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Wow you mad huh?
 
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TLDR I want to be a special snowflake 
 
 
translation: I want to be a special snowflake so I'm not telling where I got the carrot from
 
/facepalm.
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In my long conquest of decyphering the clues palmtop gave us and my never ending vanity pet collection madness, I have finally gotten my hands on a carrot as world first EU!!!111
 
 
I can neither deny nor confirm that the location in which I took this picture may or may not have something to do with the way I obtained it.	
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			Wait he gave hints besides Thayd? How did you know he wasn't trolling	
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maybe only some classes can get it? 
 	
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			Please tell the location	
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			That would ruin the hunt!	
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			At least a hint?	
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Vaira: I think any class can do it.
 
 
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			Though it seems only exiles... I hate how carbine favors them	
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			Dominion can get it as well. No trick from Carbine here.	
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			Well it seems to be located in thayd	
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Well it seems to be located in thayd
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In my long conquest of decyphering the clues palmtop gave us and my never ending vanity pet collection madness, I have finally gotten my hands on a carrot as world first EU!!!111
 
 
I can neither deny nor confirm that the location in which I took this picture may or may not have something to do with the way I obtained it.
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that's the museum in thayd. A reward for finding all the treasures and completing the museum perhaps? 
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Unlikely, since that's how you get the Philanthropist title already. You can interact with those items, so maybe there's some kind of order-based puzzle, but it could also just be a wild goose chase meant to misdirect us.
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Yeah, I realized after I posted that suggestion that there was just no way... I ran around the museum a little bit but didn't see anything that really stuck out. Mine isn't complete yet though. Is there a find related to plants or veggies in there? Gah... now I wanna know. 
 
I checked in the Public Works too since I'd seen rumors about that... unless it's a drop from killing 1,000 slanks I have no idea.
 
What about all those vegetables in Thayd where the Aurin gardener is running around ranting about them. Bleh... I wanna know. T_T
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Has any new hints or information been uprooted?
 
I'll probably waste another hour tonight trying to find this awesome companion when I get home from work later today! :-)	
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I want the clever people to have their time in the sun, so I'm not going to tell you where it is. However, this is what I will say:
 
- It's available to both factions in a fair sense (so, say, not requiring Dominion to go to Thayd).
- It's available to all classes.
- It's available to all paths.
- It is not tied to one-time content (like quests and achievements.)
 
And lastly:
- Due to circumstances surrounding where it can be found, we are going to make getting this guy a bit easier in a future update. Celebrate your first-claimed carrots now, you lucky finders. ;)	
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Very much appreciated!
 
The hunt continues! :-)	
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			Kind of funny that were hunting for a literal carrot. Maybe it's on a stick somewhere?	
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			So what's left then? Challenge, drop from a specific mob or something weird and special you have to do?	
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Due to circumstances surrounding where it can be found, we are going to make getting this guy a bit easier in a future update. Celebrate your first-claimed carrots now, you lucky finders. ;)
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			Probably something with a particular server time, like for the goldensun essence ?	
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			wow the devs took too literally the phrase "wildstar needs a carrot on a stick"	
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			That's definitely not challenge now that I think more about it, since they are not happy with the way you get it currently and there are already other pets from challenges. Makes me think it's some timed event somewhere.	
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That's definitely not challenge now that I think more about it, since they are not happy with the way you get it currently and there are already other pets from challenges. Makes me think it's some timed event somewhere.
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maybe only some classes can get it? 
 
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Whats the name of your hat and where can I buy it or create it.
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			That's SS GA Class set helmet	
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That's SS GA Class set helmet
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In my long conquest of decyphering the clues palmtop gave us and my never ending vanity pet collection madness, I have finally gotten my hands on a carrot as world first EU!!!111
 
 
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			Yea he didn't give any clues	
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http://www.jabbithole.com/items/gunslingers-battleweave-hood-69876
 
It's from Datascape, a raid.
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			"I can say for one thing, it is not in Celestion" - Palmtop from teamspeakFSCK YOU PALM!!!	
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I want the clever people to have their time in the sun, so I'm not going to tell you where it is. 
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			Palm didn't have any clues either and figured it out.	
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"I can say for one thing, it is not in Celestion" - Palmtop from teamspeak
FSCK YOU PALM!!!
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Did it drop from mobs there? or what was it?
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Carrot gone Wild...
 
 	
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Wow you mad huh?
 
 
Translation: I'm lazy and want everything handed to me.
 
ps - pls be nice to me im sensitive
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I've been making a list since the drop first hit, carrot is the only missing pet. I just want to finish it :(
 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QZKvbqgmUn3DYEl3E8UomJfdbVaxlByIvkFpQmEflnQ/edit#gid=0	
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No, I'm not mad huh, not at all
I don't give a damn about the carrot pet, but why be a jerk to others by withholding information. There is a whole thread on the forums where the nice guys are sharing information on where to get the different pets.
ps don't care if your sensitive 
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No, I'm not mad huh, not at all
I don't give a damn about the carrot pet, but why be a jerk to others by withholding information. There is a whole thread on the forums where the nice guys are sharing information on where to get the different pets.
ps don't care if your sensitive 
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TIL not giving people whatever they want makes me a jerk. You might not be mad, but I get the feeling our relationship is something sort of like this right now: http://i.imgur.com/3DBnjUY.gif
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Yeah, because you totally didn't respond in an inflammatory manner. 
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TIL not giving people whatever they want makes me a jerk. You might not be mad, but I get the feeling our relationship is something sort of like this right now: http://i.imgur.com/3DBnjUY.gif
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			Its more of a," Haha look what I have, and im not going to tell anyone where I got it, but Im going to spam thayd every second saying I have it."  This is why palm has the rep he had in this game.  Eventually its going to get out and everyone will have it and they will look back and say guess who the jerks were that could have stopped countless of wasted hours of searching but decided to troll everyone instead.	
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Its more of a," Haha look what I have, and im not going to tell anyone where I got it, but Im going to spam thayd every second saying I have it."  This is why palm has the rep he had in this game.  Eventually its going to get out and everyone will have it and they will look back and say guess who the jerks were that could have stopped countless of wasted hours of searching but decided to troll everyone instead.
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Seems to me both sides are kids being childish. 
 
I can understand Palmtop wanting to be an exclusive special snowflake for a while, especially when people are this desperate to also get that pet and shower him in the attention he clearly craves. Can't say I'd do something else in his position.
On the other hand, it's a bit egoistical to not share it when I'm pretty sure he himself got quite a lot of useful information about pet locations from other people who did decide to share it with the community. The whole "u mad, bro?" attitude is also quite obnoxious.
 
Anyway, don't really care about pets but this whole thread (and others like it) is pretty amusing. So thanks for that.	
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			Yessss. Drama caused by a carrot. This is what I like.	
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Seems to me both sides are kids being childish. 
 
I can understand Palmtop wanting to be an exclusive special snowflake for a while, especially when people are this desperate to also get that pet and shower him in the attention he clearly craves. Can't say I'd do something else in his position.
On the other hand, it's a bit egoistical to not share it when I'm pretty sure he himself got quite a lot of useful information about pet locations from other people who did decide to share it with the community. The whole "u mad, bro?" attitude is also quite obnoxious.
 
Anyway, don't really care about pets but this whole thread (and others like it) is pretty amusing. So thanks for that.
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			You should always expect people to turn out as jerks (palm's case) rather than helpful. That's just the reality.	
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You should always expect people to turn out as jerks (palm's case) rather than helpful. That's just the reality.
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Enigma is full of jerks
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At the end of the day thats the truth though......its a carrot!  I highly doubt its "Hard to obtain" as palmtop states, its probably in an "interesting" location.
 
After watching zone chat most of the day and reading these fourms, why dont the people who have it actually help the community and possibly give clues to help push people in the correct direction?  Its obivious alot of people want this but dont have a starting point.  Or continue to keep to yourself and be the person no one likes.	
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Yeah, just like the whole of Enigma is full of jerks for not sharing their DS raid-tactics instantly...
 
Carrots mate, serious business. 
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I guess I'll try to figure it out then. IF I do I'll let people know...
 
no interest in the pet, but meh...just a pet...	
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			Why are you talking shit about palm. He is just making it more interesting. Thats the fun of it. discover it by yourself	
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			Wow people are getting really salty over a carrot...	
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It's like Mondo Zax all over again.
 
/popcorn	
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I don't get the whole "You're a jerk for not telling us how to get it" mentality. Let him bask in his glory for a little bit. The information will get out there, in the long term, this is a blip. Remember, it's only been around 2 weeks since pets were introduced. It's not like this has been going on for months.
 
Patience, padawan.	
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I don't think people should be angry about it. Some people figured something out OR for all I know stumbled on it by accident and can't figure it out either.
Those that got it, grats to them and if they don't feel like sharing that's fine and their right to not share. I can understand people being frustrated not being able to do it themselves, but meh...jsut move on and either be patient or figure it out too...
 
To me the entire thing is funny, but I can't really do much else so ill try and help out a bit and see what i can do.	
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			It's not "he's a jerk for not telling it", it's "he's a jerk for trolling and teasing everyone". No one would say a word if he just refused to share it, but intentionaly misleading people who's searching for it and trolling them while running around and showing it off is just a  jerk move. It's not making it interesting or entertaining, it just pisses people off.	
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			What are the clues people were given? I'd like to start my hunt for it as well.	
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			Probably comes from the secret stash box in Thayd/ Illium.	
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Probably comes from the secret stash box in Thayd/ Illium.
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 Enigma is full of jerks
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Its more of a," Haha look what I have, and im not going to tell anyone where I got it, but Im going to spam thayd every second saying I have it."  This is why palm has the rep he had in this game.  Eventually its going to get out and everyone will have it and they will look back and say guess who the jerks were that could have stopped countless of wasted hours of searching but decided to troll everyone instead.
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Interesting post in the reddit from today:
 
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I'm starting to believe it's located at the top of the capital cities, which is technically possible for all paths/classes to get to (even if explorers have a more forgiving time of it). Many of the screenshots have been from high places, and Palmtop (along with Viraxion and others) definitely know the path and have been up there before. It's not something that most people would do on a whim, and it's pretty darn challenging, which would explain the low find rate... I just wonder if there's a similar such point in the Dominion capital, otherwise this whole theory goes out the window.Just a theory, I could very well be wrong.
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			I feel like it is something through housing but I dont have neighbors or friends with the FABkits I'm thinking of.	
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Interesting post in the reddit from today:
 
 
If that's true, it could very well be the reason Palmtop and others are being... this way about it. And it's certainly hard (or at least out of the way) enough that Carbine would want to tone it down... Anyone have an alt parked up there or have experience getting up there?
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Interesting post in the reddit from today:
 
 
If that's true, it could very well be the reason Palmtop and others are being... this way about it. And it's certainly hard (or at least out of the way) enough that Carbine would want to tone it down... Anyone have an alt parked up there or have experience getting up there?
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Interesting post in the reddit from today:
 
 
If that's true, it could very well be the reason Palmtop and others are being... this way about it. And it's certainly hard (or at least out of the way) enough that Carbine would want to tone it down... Anyone have an alt parked up there or have experience getting up there?
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This carrot looks suspicious though..	
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			I'm pretty sure it comes from running in circle 1000 times around a carrot sproutling, someone should test it out	
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Didn't get anything.. but someone else should check aswell
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I'm pretty sure it comes from running in circle 1000 times around a carrot sproutling, someone should test it out
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Now, I hope you won't feel the need tuber-ate me for not addressing this sooner. The root of this particular issue is complex, and I can't shallot a whole bunch of information about it at this point. Lettuce review the main questions:
 
1) Is the Carrot Sproutling available? Yes. Technically.
2) Are we happy with the acquisition means? It could be better.
 
We're working on it, though I can't leek anything further. Hopefully we'll produce a solution that will help that particular pet turnip.
 
*runs from the Pun Police*
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			I especially like the part of the thread where people aren't helpful.	
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I'm pretty sure it comes from running in circle 1000 times around a carrot sproutling, someone should test it out
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I especially like the part of the thread where people aren't helpful.
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You mean like this part:
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I meant the misleading screenshots and vague cryptic speak.  At least Cay's post lets us know it's not gated behind faction/path.
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			Is it gated by level? Can you only have access to where it's located after a certain level?	
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			Any Class Can Get It And Any Path Can Play. Seek It Out For Yourself, You Can Get There From "T.H.A.Y.D"	
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			Why is thayd an acronym? What does it stand for?	
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			Housing?	
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The House At... Your... Domicile
 
lol.	
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Hey look everyone. I got my carrot pet...	
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			Cheeto, is that picture actually a clue? If so, it's not the melting pot housing plug, there's no such bone pit there. The tone of the soil around the pit is the same as you find in underground caverns. Doesn't seem to be the one in Celestion with all the moodies (near the "save the veggies from being soup" quest, which appears to be non-repeatable), no such bone pits there either.	
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Got this carrot pet then ate it!	
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Well, that's it. Carbine, you've pushed me over the edge. :/
 
In my desperation to get a carrot pet, you've forced me to do something terrible.
 
 
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She deserves better than that, you monsters!! *sobs*	
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			Melting Pot	
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Any Class Can Get It And Any Path Can Play. Seek It Out For Yourself, You Can Get There From "T.H.A.Y.D"
 
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			This thread is all lies! Did that expedition all day and it's bugged to hell	
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Melting Pot
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Confirmed from "the melting pot" housing expedition
 
http://www.jabbithole.com/items/expedition-melting-pot-fabkit-31396	
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			Brick Tamland just grazed the sun with that guess.  :blink: What a fast mind.	
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The Carrot pet comes from the Melting Pot FABKit.  Use Slime, Shell, Squishy, Wiggling, Stalk, Roe, and Blubber.  This recipe should give you gold.  If that doesn't work, try Slime, Husk, Wiggling, Roe, Shroom, Blubber, Pelt.
 
You'll need 5 people though because 1. the pot can't be cooled, and 2. you'll need to do this multiple times.  The reward randomly contains the carrot.	
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Confirmed here also.	
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The Carrot pet comes from the Melting Pot FABKit. Use Slime, Shell, Squishy, Wiggling, Stalk, Roe, and Blubber. This recipe should give you gold. If that doesn't work, try Slime, Husk, Wiggling, Roe, Shroom, Blubber, Pelt.
 
You'll need 5 people though because 1. the pot can't be cooled, and 2. you'll need to do this multiple times. The reward randomly contains the carrot.
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Carrot comes from the Expedition: Melting Pot FABkit. Based on rough 1.5 hour trying:
Qe got 7 carrots, tho one guy got 3 and other 2. Unfortunately they are not tradeable inside the group.
We used the veggie recipe in the correct order.
Our experiences show that this pet can drop on silver completion to a random party member.
Also we realized that gold is only possible if you reset the instance but be aware that this way you might get locked out of it after a few resets in a short time.
 
Finally grats for Kaiser, Kara and Linda for the pets.	
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Confirmed x3!
 
 
 
 
 
Here's a short guide, since the event is kind of borked right now (soup pot doesn't get cooled when you click on it).
 
1. Find someone on your server/faction who has the Expedition: Melting Pot housing plug. Make sure their residence is open to the public, or have them add you as a neighbor.
2. Find a group. It's easiest with 5 people, but it depends on your level/gear. If you are exceptionally geared, you can risk taking fewer people (and therefore have a greater chance at the pet drop; it seems to only drop 1 per group, but this may not be correct in all cases).
3. Enter the instance. You'll see a bunch of food items on the ground. You have to follow one of the Skeech recipes on the walls to make soup; we used Skeech Supreme because it gives the best food reward even if you fail to get the pet (Shell, Musty, Pork, Husk, Hump, Stalk, Pelt). The quicker you add ingredients, the faster the mobs spawn, so be prepared for this. 
4. Have two people alternate on ingredient duty while the rest DPS the mobs that spawn when you add ingredients to the pot. For the Skeech Supreme recipe, it will look like this:
Person 1 picks up Shell and adds it to the cauldron, person 2 picks up Musty
Person 2 adds Musty to the cauldron, Person 1 picks up Pork
Person 1 adds Pork to the cauldron, Person 2 picks up Husk
And so on an so forth, alternating like that. One person is always picking something up while the other is adding something to the cauldron. In a speedy group you can get all the items added before the soup hits 50-60% on the burn meter; you MUST get the last ingredient in before 69%, otherwise it will burn by the end of the 30 second timer and you will get bronze at best. I can not confirm if the carrot pet drops with bronze, I've only seen it in gold and silver runs so far.
5. Protect the soup from Skeech. They only take a few hits to run away. Just make sure you're aiming some of your telegraphs near the cauldron and you should be okay.
5. Kill the boss mob that spawns.
6. Wait for your soup to be rated. If you followed the recipe with the proper ingredients in the right order (correction: the order doesn't matter, as long as you use the 7 ingredients in the recipe), and the soup did not burn, and you got it done in less than 2 minutes, and no Skeech ate the soup, you should get a gold medal.
7. Jump for joy if you got a carrot, exit the portal and MAKE SURE TO RESET THE INSTANCE BEFORE HEADING IN AGAIN if not. Edit! This part is up for debate. It's still possible to get the pet with silver, and it's unknown how the drop rate is affected by getting gold. So it might be better not to reset and do 2+ silver runs in the same instance so you don't get locked out. Take this final step with a grain of salt, your mileage may vary, etc.
 
 
Good luck, and happy hunting!	
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No wonder I never got it.. got that expedition on my housing plot but I obsessively cool it.
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It's not that you shouldn't click on it, but the event itself has been bugged since Drop 5. Clicking on the pot does not bring the heat meter down, hence all these workarounds with 5-man groups and whatnot.
 
Looking back, that bug probably should have tipped us off that something had changed in this event.
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			Damn you guys. You took the fun of it.	
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Damn you guys. You took the fun of it.
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It's not that you shouldn't click on it, but the event itself has been bugged since Drop 5. Clicking on the pot does not bring the heat meter down, hence all these workarounds with 5-man groups and whatnot.
 
Looking back, that bug probably should have tipped us off that something had changed in this event.
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Awesome.
 
Thank you to the actual helpful members of the community. You guys rock.
 
I am glad to know there are still people out there who are happy to share their successes with others, without resorting to gloating or mocking everyone else.
 
Well done.	
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			If you're Dominion and you can't get your hands on a Melting Pot fabkit, search for Psy Therea in public housing search, I have it on that alt's plot.	
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			Congratulations and thanks to those who were willing to both search for it and then share that information with the community. Very inspiring!  :)	
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Awesome.
 
Thank you to the actual helpful members of the community. You guys rock.
 
I am glad to know there are still people out there who are happy to share their successes with others, without resorting to gloating or mocking everyone else.
 
Well done.
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Just wanted to thank the people who shared the info about the FabKit. $$$ The rich get richer \o/ AH mini game is best mini game.
 	
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Just wanted to thank the people who shared the info about the FabKit. $$$ The rich get richer \o/ AH mini game is best mini game.
 
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Time to ruin some more people's fun:
 
Don't fall for the high prices! From the reddit, Campbell Soup (Entity/Dominion) and Therrin Amell (Entity/Exile) have offered their public plots with Melting Pot for use to everyone. If someone could post similar open plots for the other servers/factions, I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate it.	
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			The fun ended when I stopped selling them for 3 plat and for 40 gold...was nice though....sold quite a lot for 3 plat.... :P	
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The fun ended when I stopped selling them for 3 plat and for 40 gold...was nice though....sold quite a lot for 3 plat.... :P
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This illustrates perfectly where the 'problem' really lies: people who knew where to get it were farming it and selling it to make plat in the AH. It was never about the fun or 'the hunt' and all about keeping people in the dark so they could keep selling them at a large cost for as long as possible.
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This illustrates perfectly where the 'problem' really lies: people who knew where to get it were farming it and selling it to make plat in the AH. It was never about the fun or 'the hunt' and all about keeping people in the dark so they could keep selling them at a large cost for as long as possible. 
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This illustrates perfectly where the 'problem' really lies: people who knew where to get it were farming it and selling it to make plat in the AH. It was never about the fun or 'the hunt' and all about keeping people in the dark so they could keep selling them at a large cost for as long as possible. 
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			Just to clarify, the carrot itself is BoP, you cannot farm it to sell on the AH directly.	
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How come you get to berate them for getting it first AND being able to get it enough to list on the AH?
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For the record they were just selling the fabkits. Unless I'm mistaken the fine Chua making it rain up in this place simply made a ton of the fabkits when the secret was out and everyone wanted one to get their own carrot. Which anyone with two brain cells to rub together could have seen was a smart thing to do if they had the ability.
 
So... can we tone down the uprising of the proletariat just a bit?	
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Because you don't get to have your cupcake and eat it too.
 
Every one of us has the opportunity to choose to act in our own self-interest or act in benefit of the entire playerbase. When a person chooses to make exclusionary decisions that benefit just themselves at the expense of everyone else, they choose individual profit over goodwill. I would not deny them the right to make that decision, but they got the reward they were after. I'm neither obliged nor inclined to give them my approval on top of it. 
 
When you perform actions made out of self-interest, that is your right.
When the rest of us view those actions as selfish, that is our right.
Welcome to the real world.
 
The FABkit which you must use in order to obtain the carrot is not BoP and has spiked in price on the AH. But then since you noted that the carrot cannot be sold on the AH "directly", I would guess you're aware of this and simply attempting to throw up a bit of distraction from the point of the discussion.
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			Yes there were several people, myself included, offering their melting pots for people who wanted to use them.	
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Yes there were several people, myself included, offering their melting pots for people who wanted to use them.
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For the record they were just selling the fabkits. Unless I'm mistaken the fine Chua making it rain up in this place simply made a ton of the fabkits when the secret was out and everyone wanted one to get their own carrot. Which anyone with two brain cells to rub together could have seen was a smart thing to do if they had the ability.
 
So... can we tone down the uprising of the proletariat just a bit?
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Pretty much. I was in the dark just like everyone else. Soon as I found out about the FabKit I decided to seize the opportunity, I knew it would be a small window but I took it anyways. The price didn't even increase, it actually decreased....drastically....from 4 plat to 40 gold in less than 6 hours. Just checked it out this morning and someone is selling the FabKit for 35 gold, 1 day later.
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Part of that is the race to the bottom that some people seem to think is savvy business. You're selling it for 1p?? I'M selling it for 50g! Congrats, you just lost half of the money you could have made. If I ever undercut anything its by 1c or 1s, why waste potential profit?
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This illustrates perfectly where the 'problem' really lies: people who knew where to get it were farming it and selling it to make plat in the AH. It was never about the fun or 'the hunt' and all about keeping people in the dark so they could keep selling them at a large cost for as long as possible. Greed makes people into dicks.
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Sigh. You put on a jetpack to make those stupid logic leaps, didn't you?
 
- My statement was: "People who knew where to get it were farming it and selling it to make plat in the AH." Where 'it' can only mean 'the carrot'.
- The carrot is Bind on Pickup, so it cannot be sold on the AH.
- Those two points put together will reveal to you the same thing it revelaed to Narthorn: that I was not aware that the carrot was BoP. Hence why he had to say 'to clarify, the carrot is BoP'.
 
So can you explain to us, Slyjeff, how can I be talking about any kind of greed on the people selling the FABkit if I wasn't talking about the FABkit at all? And can you explain how you went from "people held a secret for profit" to "let's make the in-game economy into a communist system"? Because those are just awful strawmen you had to build to protect...I don't know, I guess greed? I know you are certainly not protecting anything else, because nothing else was attacked.
 
Also, in clase it was not clear: I wasn't aware the carrot was BoP. I'm sure there's something to be said about the price of the Melting Pot increasing because of the increase in demand, but I'm not going there nor I was talking about that. I was talking about witholding information to inflate the profits. Which, as a few have pointed out, was impossible with the carrot.	
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For the record they were just selling the fabkits. Unless I'm mistaken the fine Chua making it rain up in this place simply made a ton of the fabkits when the secret was out and everyone wanted one to get their own carrot. 
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Sigh. You put on a jetpack to make those stupid logic leaps, didn't you?
 
- My statement was: "People who knew where to get it were farming it and selling it to make plat in the AH." Where 'it' can only mean 'the carrot'.
- The carrot is Bind on Pickup, so it cannot be sold on the AH.
- Those two points put together will reveal to you the same thing it revelaed to Narthorn: that I was not aware that the carrot was BoP. Hence why he had to say 'to clarify, the carrot is BoP'.
 
So can you explain to us, Slyjeff, how can I be talking about any kind of greed on the people selling the FABkit if I wasn't talking about the FABkit at all? And can you explain how you went from "people held a secret for profit" to "let's make the in-game economy into a communist system"? Because those are just awful strawmen you had to build to protect...I don't know, I guess greed? I know you are certainly not protecting anything else, because nothing else was attacked.
 
Also, in clase it was not clear: I wasn't aware the carrot was BoP. I'm sure there's something to be said about the price of the Melting Pot increasing because of the increase in demand, but I'm not going there nor I was talking about that. I was talking about witholding information to inflate the profits. Which, as a few have pointed out, was impossible with the carrot.
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Yes, I'm sure that nobody increased production or snapped up the existing supply until the information went public. That's the only thing that happened, ayep.  :rolleyes:
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Even if they did so hoping to make a profit, it doesn't make them awful people for doing it.
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If you act out of pure self-interest, then I have every right to recognize your actions as selfish because that's what they are. Nobody is having their rights trampled on here, we all agree that they had the right to do it just like we can all agree that I have the right to be unimpressed by it when they do.
 
Other people chose a different course of action by publicizing how to obtain the carrot and making the FABkit required available for free to whoever wanted to use it. They did so by forgoing some profit to themselves, and I appreciate their efforts on the behalf of the general playerbase. It was a really refreshing and inspiring display of service to the community at large, and I appreciate it.
 
Two points of correction here.
 
First, what you are calling people's unwillingness to socialize is actually simply unawareness of a publicly available location. Posts on the forum are not system announcements that are emblazoned across everyone's screen, and people who do not belong to channels where those open locations were being publicized can still be sociable and simply not run in those same circles. Your assumption that that they didn't know because they're "unwilling to socialize" is just that--an assumption. A rather unfair one at that.
 
Second, I'm pretty sure that if the people selling the FABkits had listed them at half the price point they chose, the price of people's unawareness would have only been half of what it was. So the people selling the FABkits did in fact set the price, whether you would care to admit it or not.
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Just because they acted out of self interest, wanting to make a profit, doesn't make them awful(don't know if anyone else has noticed, but you kinda need plat for stuff in the game, whether it's fluff or necessities, you need plat for it).  They weren't wrong to do it.  They weren't keeping people from being able to obtain the items, the people that wanted to obtain the items could have done it differently but they chose to spend their plat on the fast/easy way.
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			Reposting that Psy Therea (Dominion) has the Melting Pot, plot is public :D	
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			I have been trying all the challenges in Thayd, going through zones and getting all the rarespawns and such, shooting for new titles and trying different housing challenges.  No carrot for me yet.   I love my other pets but the carrot is the one I've wanted since my first time on the Arkship forever ago in closed beta.  I don't care if everyone is rocking it, it's my #1 choice for a pet and I really hope I can find it soon :(	
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I have been trying all the challenges in Thayd, going through zones and getting all the rarespawns and such, shooting for new titles and trying different housing challenges.  No carrot for me yet.   I love my other pets but the carrot is the one I've wanted since my first time on the Arkship forever ago in closed beta.  I don't care if everyone is rocking it, it's my #1 choice for a pet and I really hope I can find it soon :(
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I didn't understand why you immediately leapt to calling people greedy and assuming the worst motives about them. They were having a bit of fun that they figured out the secret trick. I'm sure no one thought it would stay hidden for too long.
 
It seems we're both in agreement here that nothing unethical took place, so I'm sorry if my response was overly combative. It was not my intention.
 
For broader context, I actually *do* believe it is greed that drives the free market, and only a truly communist economy would free us from the need to harness greed. However, it simply wouldn't work on a large level (like it doesn't work in the real world). However, many smaller guilds and purpose driven guilds (hardcore raiding guilds for example) *do* operate in a more communist way, where resources are given based on need rather than supply/demand. So the concept of what is "good" in the economy fascinates me, because ultimately while a free market DOES work, it's far from ethical as I see it. But I don't see a better option.
 
So when I say something like "call it 'greed' if you want", I'm actually agreeing that there is greed in the system, but at the same time I see that is something that cannot be avoided.
 
But my general musing about this topic ought not to have gotten caught up in my response to you, so for that I apologize.
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