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Just because you're a higher rated in arena player doesn't make your opinion any more valid than any elses. Showing off your e-peen is a lame attempt at backing up your rambling. 
 
It's like me saying "I lead the largest dominion pvp guild that is well known for being a pvp guild with a stupid name, I have weird coloured hair... oh and I have boobs YOU KNOW BOOBS ALL THOSE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS DONT HAVE YEAH IT MAKES ME MORE IMPORTANT PAY ATTENTION TO ME BLABLABLA" See? that stuff doesn't even stick, it's exactly the same. 
 
it doesn't matter what rating you are, what class, what age, what gender, what faction, everyone has a different way of looking at things. Just because you think the things we are trying to do as a community to bring people together are not in your little cookie cutter mantra of "perfect pvp" or "improving the community" (which, these events do btw, on all servers), doesn't mean we can't enjoy ourselves doing the things you don't enjoy. You should just go back to FF:ARR now until you've got all this bitterness out of your system dude, because as much as I respect you? You're coming off as a massive crybaby/special snowflake. Carbine aren't here to listen to YOUR opinions and act on them, they are here to listen to OUR opinions and listen to them.
 
Some of us love pvp servers, hence why we struggle on here. I DONT CARE if i can do all the same things on pve as pvp. I just don't want to be there. It's as simple as that.
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Well, I think there are limits to the agreement:
 
A merged AH/CX.  Yes. I really would like this. It would remove one of the biggest reasons why people moved from Luminai to Jabbit.
 
They all want the benefits of being able to raid with each other. Yes again. The one-way nature of PvP -> PvE transfers was the thing that started people moving from Luminai to Jabbit. This has been fixed now and transfers are free in both directions.
 
They all want the benefits of being able to queue up together cross-server. Yes once agan. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean by this, it already happens. PvP and PvE queued content is already cross server.
 
Merge the PvE and PvP servers? No. I don't see a majority wanting this. The servers feel so, so different. For someone who likes PvP servers, dailies on a PvE server are as fun as farming plots with WillYouBeMyNeighbor. I can only guess that for someone who likes PvE servers, dailies on a PvP server are a nightmare filled with either being ganked, or the fear of it.
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No it doesn't matter, and no, you are not more qualified. Having a higher rating in pvp means nothing There are no qualifications for having an opinion.
 
I think you really need to remove the vegetable/stick you have stashed in your bottom and have a look at the bigger picture rather than the one you've molded in your head. You may be more experienced and be able to say "in high rated arena this doesn't work" but you sure as hell are not speaking for the majority of us. I'd hate to have your ideas implemented, it's so far off the mark it's untrue.
 
PvP does not, and never has, revolved around arena. It's everything to do with "pvp"	
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I'm done here, you clearly don't get that people are allowed a choice already and enjoy where they are. Forcing a merge would be unnecessary, and your perspective on pvp is simply your own preference. Irrelevant.I hope all the entity people have seen the recent Warhound posters chiming in, and understand our collective views upon the matter. It's a bad idea, and there's far better solutions to growing wildstar.Edit: I do not wish to continue this thread, so I'm just editing this in. 
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What are your better solutions for growing Wildstar?  That's what this post is all about, you know.
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No it doesn't matter, and no, you are not more qualified. Having a higher rating in pvp means nothing There are no qualifications for having an opinion.
 
I think you really need to remove the vegetable/stick you have stashed in your bottom and have a look at the bigger picture rather than the one you've molded in your head. You may be more experienced and be able to say "in high rated arena this doesn't work" but you sure as hell are not speaking for the majority of us. I'd hate to have your ideas implemented, it's so far off the mark it's untrue.
 
PvP does not, and never has, revolved around arena. It's everything to do with "pvp"
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A respectable opinion yes. But it doesn't make your opinion any more valid in terms of feedback to the devs.
 
They have to weigh all comments from all types of players to the same amount.
 
That is how feedback works, unfortunately. And like I said before, they are not going to listen to an individual, they are going to listen to the masses.	
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I'm done here, you clearly don't get that people are allowed a choice already and enjoy where they are. Forcing a merge would be unnecessary, and your perspective on pvp is simply your own preference. Irrelevant.
 
I hope all the entity people have seen the recent Warhound posters coming in, and understand our collective views upon the matter. It's a bad idea, and there's far better solutions to growing wildstar.
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I don't really find dailies to be any sort of fun / amusing on a PvP or PvE server, do you? They're dailies, after all.
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then why are you suggesting what would make a part of the population quit entirely?
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People do have a choice, but they deserve better.  They're paying 15 bucks a month without even acknowledgement about a Lead PvP Developer.   We wouldn't even be having this conversation if this game could sustain a population that permits having more than the bare minimum of servers with rulesets.
 
What are your better solutions for growing Wildstar?  That's what this post is all about, you know.
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A respectable opinion yes. But it doesn't make your opinion any more valid in terms of feedback to the devs.
 
They have to weigh all comments from all types of players to the same amount.
 
That is how feedback works, unfortunately. And like I said before, they are not going to listen to an individual, they are going to listen to the masses.
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No it means I actually play the game instead of just troll the forums.  2200 rating comes from time and experience, not ungodly pvp skillz.  Whatever your problem is with me, I suggest you end it and start posting content that relates to the discussion at hand.  I'm fully aware that not all of my ideas are well-liked, but I'm certainly keen on opening forums for discussion like this very post.  IF you asked me now I would say that they should merge the servers with the promise of having open world pvp dedicated zones in the next drop, with meaningful pvp objectives.  Maybe even some PvP dailies, so that those of us that don't care for killing spiders for an hour get some dailies that are bearable.
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Like the masses that have left this game in droves because of opinions that I share?  If all CRB is listening to is the remaining players, then that's very unfortunate, indeed.
 
The majority that are posting in the forums in this thread.  Not the majority that are not playing this game at the moment because there's nothing to do / nothing to play with.  Not the majority that have cancelled their subs.  Not the majority of people that have sent me PMs saying that they would love to have their guilds merged onto one server.
 
That's a bit of a stretch, isn't it?  There are plenty of things that would make the pvp population quite entirely... Gear imbalance, win trading, exploits, lack of CRB care for PvP, yet still people like DiabolicalPie remain to rally those battered housewives who stil lwant to try and find pvp fun in this game. 
 
I honestly don't think that people would quit in droves.  I think they would simply stay where they have been, and that's patiently waiting for drop 3 or in instanced pvp.  Do you really think that there is an active world pvp community?  There isn't. There is a group of people that enjoy organized weekend events.  Events that have just happened to include world pvp.
 
 
No it means I actually play the game instead of just troll the forums.  2200 rating comes from time and experience, not ungodly pvp skillz.  Whatever your problem is with me, I suggest you end it and start posting content that relates to the discussion at hand.  I'm fully aware that not all of my ideas are well-liked, but I'm certainly keen on opening forums for discussion like this very post.  IF you asked me now I would say that they should merge the servers with the promise of having open world pvp dedicated zones in the next drop, with meaningful pvp objectives.  Maybe even some PvP dailies, so that those of us that don't care for killing spiders for an hour get some dailies that are bearable.
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Yeah, and we're currently talking on the WoW forums.
 
And I have no issue with you, personally. So playing the victim is unnecessary.
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When the population rebounds, you can open more servers. That's generally how it works.
 
I think having carebear zones is a fine tradeoff for having people to play / raid with. I for one am tired of having only 20 people in illium during primetime. That doesn't feel mega or massively multiplayer.
 
After playing WoW, Aion, Warhammer Online, Guild Wars 2 etc, all I can think about is-- where are all of the people?
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NOBODY but Eclips wants to merge the servers. That's what I'm getting out of this thread.
 
Other than that, it's been six pages of Eclips trolling people. 	
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			Meh, with free server transfers back and forth the notion of a merge is pointless.  I think the status quo is where it should be atm.	
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			Actually I think it's a pretty good idea, I moved over to Warhound with a coupleof guildies and found it just dead, so guess what? We moved back to Entity. The leveling zones were empty, at least on Entity there are a couple of folks in the leveling zones. I really wanted Warhound to work for us but it didn't. Maybe if we were all 50 it would have been different, but we aren't so we moved back, to more folks, better economy and still very badly broken pvp. I rarely even log in anymore as there is nothing for me to do. When I do log in the first thing I do is que, then I go off to level via questing which I can stomach for about an hour. Then I log off, currently looking for a new game to play.
			
				
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Actually I think it's a pretty good idea, I moved over to Warhound with a coupleof guildies and found it just as dead, so guess what? We moved back to Entity. The leveling zones were empty, at least on Entity there are a couple of folks in the leveling zones. I really wanted Warhound to work for us but it didn't. Maybe if we were all 50 it would have been different, but we aren't so we moved back, to more folks, better economy and still very badly broken pvp. I rarely even log in anymore as there is nothing for me to do. When I do log in the first thing I do is que, then I go off to level via questing which I can stomach for about an hour. Then I log off, currently looking for a new game to play.
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it's a good idea for those preferring pve. Those that love pvp would rather move games than be forced onto a pvp server.
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I disagree, I don't prefer pve, I'm just saying there was no noticeable difference between Warhound and Entity other than a population and economy, both of which were in Entity's favor. There was no sense of urgency in the leveling zones, so I'm not seeing what you feel so strongly about. Personally I think everyone who says I could never play on a PVE server is full of malarkey, if Wildstar had launched without PVP servers you'd still be playing.   
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			I like my server. It's fun :D	
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not really. I'm following the development of Warhammer, a PvP servers only MMO. I don't intend to stay if my server gets taken away.
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Tbf I probably wouldn't if it was pve only :)
PvP really appeals to me and the way they presented it made me want to play it sooo much. I was happy when I did :D
If it was touted as pve only, I wouldn't be here. But I do love this game, both for the pvp and the pve.
 
Also, lumi had a small event tonight, and more to come with drop 3 :)
Was a lot of fun :)	
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			Glad to hear that Luminai's starting to recover.  :)	
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I can't see any type of server merger happening for the foreseeable future, NA or EU.
 
Carbine has already merged all PvE and PvP servers into one (one for each). I'm sure they will wait until they see how the next couple drop's and whatever marketing plan they have for them are put into place before making a knee jerk decision like this one. The population could and probably will get better on all servers if everything goes as planned.
 
Add in the fact that Carbine has already opened up free transfers to and from PvE to PvP and PvP to PvE within the same data center's. I honestly don't see this happening.	
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Glad to hear that Luminai's starting to recover.  :)
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I disagree, I don't prefer pve, I'm just saying there was no noticeable difference between Warhound and Entity other than a population and economy, both of which were in Entity's favor. There was no sense of urgency in the leveling zones, so I'm not seeing what you feel so strongly about. Personally I think everyone who says I could never play on a PVE server is full of malarkey, if Wildstar had launched without PVP servers you'd still be playing.   
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I leveled up on a <?> server, so I'm better than anybody that leveled up on a <?> server.
I wouldn't be caught dead on a <?> server.
Only the truly hardcore players play on a <?> server, that's a fact.
The <?> server has all the best events, you guys on the <?> server are just jealous.
 
I heard that ALL PLAYERS on a <?> server make sweeping generalizations, which is why I will only play on a <?> server.	
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I leveled up on a <?> server, so I'm better than anybody that leveled up on a <?> server.
I wouldn't be caught dead on a <?> server.
Only the truly hardcore players play on a <?> server, that's a fact.
The <?> server has all the best events, you guys on the <?> server are just jealous.
 
I heard that ALL PLAYERS on a <?> server make sweeping generalizations, which is why I will only play on a <?> server.
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I leveled up on a <?> server, so I'm better than anybody that leveled up on a <?> server.
I wouldn't be caught dead on a <?> server.
Only the truly hardcore players play on a <?> server, that's a fact.
The <?> server has all the best events, you guys on the <?> server are just jealous.
 
I heard that ALL PLAYERS on a <?> server make sweeping generalizations, which is why I will only play on a <?> server.
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 I don't believe I've done this, I merely stated what I saw after being on both servers with all my toons and on that note I'll bow out. 
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 I don't believe I've done this, I merely stated what I saw after being on both servers with all my toons and on that note I'll bow out. 
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This wasn't directed at you at all :P
It's just what a lot of the PvE vs PvP (or PvP merge with PvE) threads seem to become, and I just didn't want to miss out on all of the fun.
 
 
Quick, attempt to blend in with the rest of the Mustelids.
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ok cool, you know skunks are Mustelids too, right?  :)
 
http://www.stevekemper.net/skunk_man_23063.htm
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When the population rebounds, you can open more servers. That's generally how it works.
 
I think having carebear zones is a fine tradeoff for having people to play / raid with. I for one am tired of having only 20 people in illium during primetime. That doesn't feel mega or massively multiplayer.
 
After playing WoW, Aion, Warhammer Online, Guild Wars 2 etc, all I can think about is-- where are all of the people?
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TBH I was just in Ilium at 2250 central time it was not what I would call populated at all. The place where the PVPers used to hang out near the obstacle course there were 5 people including me and I went up the stairs to people jumping by that wall :(
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			I'm proud to be on a PvP server cause I assume all PvE-ers are cupcakes and crybabies. Seriously. I wouldn't want to be on the same server as anyone who would QQ if they got ganked while questing or trying to do pheonixwing. 	
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I'm proud to be on a PvP server cause I assume all PvE-ers are cupcakes and crybabies. Seriously. I wouldn't want to be on the same server as anyone who would QQ if they got ganked while questing or trying to do pheonixwing. 
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I'm proud to be on a PvP server cause I assume all PvE-ers are cupcakes and crybabies. Seriously. I wouldn't want to be on the same server as anyone who would QQ if they got ganked while questing or trying to do pheonixwing.
 
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