128816-morn-ing-coffe-e-76-the-lagfest-edit-ion

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Goo...d morning, ever ... yone! 
 
Hope you all had a gre.....at weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....kend! I had a lovely ti....me hanging out with ......... the family, celebra...ting freedom (read: eating junk ..... food and blowing stuff ...... up)
 
Finally convinced a go..................................................................od friend of mine who played a.................t launch to come back and give the game ano.......ther try.
 
Sadly, the server stab...............ility left a him feeling as thooooooooooooooooooooooooough he ......... had made an awf...ul mist..................ake.
 
I have the d.................ay off, but seeing as how the game is largely unplay....able right now. I guess I'll just watch so....me movies or someth........ing.
 
I do ho....pe that someone over at Crabine is loo....king into ...................  ............................. ................................ this issssssssssssssssssssssssssssssue. 
 
 
Oh here is .... allllllllllllllllll the breakf.......ast, I could squeeeeeze into this threa..................d because of the laaaaaaaag spikes. Hope it's oooooookay.
 
 	
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We already have a thread about lag, so we're gonna go ahead and lock this up!
 
...is what I would say if I worked for CS. Whatever hamster upgrade they're doing better get finished soon or else there will be a lot of disgruntled players in the game.
 
In WS: killed Ohmna, got some more new people attuned to DS, success! Won't be on again until Wednesday because in real life I am flying up north for the day tomorrow for a meeting and will spend the day today preparing for that. So no gaming today or tomorrow but on Weds I'll be back in the game to crush the loot piñata out of some pixels.	
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We already have a thread about lag, so we're gonna go ahead and lock this up!
 
...is what I would say if I worked for CS. Whatever hamster upgrade they're doing better get finished soon or else there will be a lot of disgruntled players in the game.
 
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Hey, it's timely, on-topic and discussing WildStar. Those are the rules.
 
This game does a fairly swift business in "disgruntled players" so I don't know why I expected my friend to actually have a decent experience. 
 
Can you tell I'm still a little torqued off because I spent all weekend apologizing for a company that I don't work for?
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Gosh, I don't really know that I've been experiencing the lag spikes people are talking about. I wonder why that is? Is it because I spend most of my time in instanced content?
 
Anyway, had a good weekend in WS despite the 4th falling on our raid night. We got through the first 5 bosses in GA on the first night and punched Ohmna for a few hours on Sunday, though we had to augment our raid with a few folks (many thanks to those who came and helped!). Unfortunately, she punched back hard! I learned a lot, including how to use my tool I've been creating. I designed my assignment page for Ohmna to be highly automated, but very inflexible. That might be nice for farm content when you have a strat worked out, but for progression content, you have to be able to change fight designs pretty quickly on the fly. So that's a good thing to learn :)  I've also figured out what new features could really make it more useful and faster to use, so eating your own dogfood is very valuable.
This week I'll polish of authorization and so I'm getting very close to opening it up for public use. 
The best part of this weekend, though, was raiding with my wife. It was awesome having someone to high-five when we got Convergence down on our last pull of the evening!	
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Gosh, I don't really know that I've been experiencing the lag spikes people are talking about. I wonder why that is? Is it because I spend most of my time in instanced content?
 
 
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			Heh, I'm just an instance junkie. As in, even at launch when everyone was leveling to cap, I got there last among my friends because I kept queuing for dungeons even when I wasn't getting any XP from them.
			
				
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I didn't experience much of this other than when I was in the outside world yesterday.  (There were bad spikes occasionally....)
 
I spent most of the day in PVP RBGs, which is an entirely other subject that I've responded to in the thread on that topic......	
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Morning Folks-
 
I started a new toon in the middle of my ridiculously busy 3-day weekend. I keep starting and stopping with what I want to do so maybe this toon will actually make it out of the barn. *shrugs*
 
About the lag: I only see it sporadically. Like when I first log on, like the game is still 'unpacking' all it's toys or something, after that there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it, it's like you hit a badly programed  10x10 patch and then it's gone again. It's almost unreportable by me because it's so sporadic. I do try to sort through what I want to say in a report as to the why's and whens of the occurrence rather than a 'lag here! fix it!' report.
 
And just to completely contradict  myself..... I did send a ticket in under the heading "Suggestion" that having run Frag Zero- as a level 6- that all I got for rewards was *^&$*^% support gear I ran it 3 times and was nearly level 8 by the time I was done so I totally and completely out leveled the area and still had no decent weapon to make it to Proto Training Dungeons. To make myself overly clear:
 
I am sick and tired of NOTHING but support items dropping! I do NOT heal, I don't want to heal, no one wants me to heal because I detest it and will let you die a miserable death because my inner killer instinct doesn't give one fig if you DIE or not!
 
OK, I feel better. One thing I did notice about the lag that started was that my ping (in months past) was generally between 12 and 20 ms but now it fluctuates between 50 and 200 ms. I really don't know what they did but something changed and it wasn't on my end. I have 300mbps internet so.....yeah. It seems that the lag happens when the ping bounces around.	
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			I just noticed that this thread is titled "7/2." Did it lag so badly that you couldn't post until 4 days later??	
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I just noticed that this thread is titled "7/2." Did it lag so badly that you couldn't post until 4 days later??
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			Exactly! Trollolollolololol!	
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Exactly! Trollolollolololol!
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uuuuuuuuuuuuugh what a weekend. I REALLY REALLY wanted to get 50 on my slinger, but I just could not stand the lag and had to break...
I'm a person that likes to pull large groups as they quest and when the lag wasn't being evil I was fine, but man oh man when those spikes hit thank lopp I have void slip or I'd be dead a lot more. I'd probably be 50 by now, if not for feeling like the game was just unplayable, but I at least made it to Malgrave and left off at 42 with plenty of questing to spare so should get there soon unless lag gets worst hehe.
 
 
Despite the lag I helped a few new players with normal dungeon runs in and out of guild which was fun(though lag seems to creep in there too...not fun on forgemaster) and a hellrose bowl(lagtastic fun!)
 
I RPed a little bit too with a couple of friends for kicks.The idea of a Granok being slapped by an Aurin amuses me...
 
I'm not sure if I'll get to play tonight, but if I do I'll just be leveling more and maybe start attunement later in the week too.	
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uuuuuuuuuuuuugh what a weekend. I REALLY REALLY wanted to get 50 on my slinger, but I just could not stand the lag and had to break...
I'm a person that likes to pull large groups as they quest and when the lag wasn't being evil I was fine, but man oh man when those spikes hit thank lopp I have void slip or I'd be dead a lot more. I'd probably be 50 by now, if not for feeling like the game was just unplayable, but I at least made it to Malgrave and left off at 42 with plenty of questing to spare so should get there soon unless lag gets worst hehe.
 
 
Despite the lag I helped a few new players with normal dungeon runs in and out of guild which was fun(though lag seems to creep in there too...not fun on forgemaster) and a hellrose bowl(lagtastic fun!)
 
I RPed a little bit too with a couple of friends for kicks.The idea of a Granok being slapped by an Aurin amuses me...
 
I'm not sure if I'll get to play tonight, but if I do I'll just be leveling more and maybe start attunement later in the week too.
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I was in the process of levelling up an Esper to 50, just to get the top tier PvP outfit. Had to stop first at level 20 back when the lag spikes suddenly appeared for the first time. I think I had a week hiatus before I restarted leveling, once the lag was seemingly gone. Got to 23 before I gave up due to these new spikes.
 
On the positive side, roleplaying isn't affected much by it so there's still that. And, when no RP is available, I can play the new Terraria update.	
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Husband and I pushed through the lag to get our Dominion alts from 47 to 50 yesterday. Wooo celebration! We hadn't even finished Southern Grimvault when we dinged. xD
 
What am I looking forward to most? Having more plat at my disposal for housing. I would add PvPing for the arena set to that, but noooooooo Carbine doesn't want me to have that kind of fun with their 350 wardrobe cap. ;_;
 
The question is, who shall we level next...	
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While drinking my afternoon coffee really slow
 
Another thing crossed my mind, could Carbine be using any and all server resources setting up the F2P beta? Surely the PTR will not handle it alone.
 
I did try and play a few times, but no longer have the heart for it.	
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I just hope the lag doesn't hurt our raiding...
 
These past 2 weeks have been fraught with people taking vacation and spending time with their families. HOW DARE THEY. WE HAVE SYSTEM DAEMONS TO BEAT DAMIT. NO SLACKING ON THE JOB. *ANGRY NOISES*
 
But in all seriousness, we've been having a lot of trouble on SD and haven't been able to take another shot at it the last 2 weeks due to people simply not showing up for raid, even if they were marked on our roster that they would be coming. It's very concerning and I hope we can get back on our normal raid schedule again soon.
 
Otherwise I've been spending a lot of time in GW2 admiring their cities. (Keeping this on topic i swear!) While I was there I noticed a lot of things that I wish Wildstar had done for their cities, mostly in terms of scale and scope, but also in terms of making it feel like a city. I mean, take the new Lion's Arch for instance. Not only is it incredibly grand, and built on a massive scale, the biggest thing for me has been that it FEELS like a city. There are NPCs going every which way, side streets lined with houses, hidden areas to find, puzzles, NPCs you can talk to just for kicks, custom models for banks, houses, crafting stations, monuments to past events, etc etc etc. I mean, I can walk around the place at my leisure for FUN, which is something that I've never been able to do in Wildstar because the cities are extremely functional, it doesn't feel to me like there's a lot there besides the bare minimum. 
 
Its those little things, the fit and finish so to speak, that I feel like Wildstar still lacks. I get that most of the last year has been damage control for bugs and itemization and balance and all the other things that have gone wrong, but it still really bothers me that I hop into Wildstar and it just feels unfinished, like you walked into a house and the entrance is really nice, and the dining room is really nice, and then there's a guy standing in front of a busted and half built living room trying to block your view and the host says "Oh don't mind Jim over there, you don't really NEED to go to the living room while you're here after all."
 
Anyway, I'm partially suffering from burnout here so take everything with a grain of salt, but seriously, its something that has bothered me in the past and continues to bother me now, that the game just feels like it came out of the gate with the paint still wet and half its parts missing.	
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Unfortunately. Title has been changed to represent the proper day. I get that people are frustrated, and yes, we do already have a thread to discuss all the recent lag issues in, surely we can keep the coffee thread going as it has for years now. 
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			I failed to get gold Thayd Sprint two times yesterday because of the lag. This is unacceptable, Carbine, I demand free dyes/decor as compensation.	
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These past 2 weeks have been fraught with people taking vacation and spending time with their families. HOW DARE THEY. WE HAVE SYSTEM DAEMONS TO BEAT DAMIT. NO SLACKING ON THE JOB. *ANGRY NOISES*
 
But in all seriousness, we've been having a lot of trouble on SD and haven't been able to take another shot at it the last 2 weeks due to people simply not showing up for raid, even if they were marked on our roster that they would be coming. It's very concerning and I hope we can get back on our normal raid schedule again soon.
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Otherwise I've been spending a lot of time in GW2 admiring their cities. (Keeping this on topic i swear!) While I was there I noticed a lot of things that I wish Wildstar had done for their cities, mostly in terms of scale and scope, but also in terms of making it feel like a city. I mean, take the new Lion's Arch for instance. Not only is it incredibly grand, and built on a massive scale, the biggest thing for me has been that it FEELS like a city. There are NPCs going every which way, side streets lined with houses, hidden areas to find, puzzles, NPCs you can talk to just for kicks, custom models for banks, houses, crafting stations, monuments to past events, etc etc etc. I mean, I can walk around the place at my leisure for FUN, which is something that I've never been able to do in Wildstar because the cities are extremely functional, it doesn't feel to me like there's a lot there besides the bare minimum. 
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Agree 10000000000000%. My absolute favorite thing about GW2 is how alive and rich the world feels, especially its cities and towns. Being able to stroll down streets and side streets and alleys and enter buildings and find little hidden parks or balconies or whathaveyou...
 
@_@ I really wish WS would treat their cities like that. I wish all MMOs treated their cities like that! Augh you're making me want to update GW2 just to enjoy the scenery some more.
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Agree 10000000000000%. My absolute favorite thing about GW2 is how alive and rich the world feels, especially its cities and towns. Being able to stroll down streets and side streets and alleys and enter buildings and find little hidden parks or balconies or whathaveyou...
 
@_@ I really wish WS would treat their cities like that. I wish all MMOs treated their cities like that! Augh you're making me want to update GW2 just to enjoy the scenery some more.
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That happens to me all the time... oh I'll just hop on and see what's changed! Next evening: spend the night wandering around the world looking at things and killing skelk. Next weekend: spend all day Saturday playing WvW or spvp, spend $15 on gems for a little mini pig to follow me around... Oh man when WildStar goes F2P my wallet will not thank me.
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Even as ruins, I feel like there could be more to Thayd. Plus, where are the people who live there staying? Some tent cities would be cool. Put more nooks and crannies to wander off into. So on.
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			I dunno. I get the feeling skyplots are supposed to cost money and... living in a skyplot has got to be taking a huge security risk, right?	
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Beyond the few tents and such that you see scattered about and the tree homes in the Arboria area of Thayd, I always assumed they lived where we live, up in the sky courtesy of Protostar.
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Its the sort of attitude I would expect from someone who was either very rushed and had to finish the bare minimum before launch
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I dunno. I get the feeling skyplots are supposed to cost money and... living in a skyplot has got to be taking a huge security risk, right?
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Words. 	
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To be honest, I feel like they'd be the best place to live in this universe. The Dominion and the Exiles blast at each other all the time. But they leave Protostar alone even though it does business with both sides.
 
Thus, a skyplot is the best place to live if the other faction attacks. Because Protostar has a white-card to do whatever the heck they want.
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I'd imagine they have some kind of 'don't fire at these! They are residential only!' treatise with the faction. Otherwise, how would Protostar manage to sell Skyplots to anyone in what is basically a warzone?
 
Of course, if you load your skyplot with weapons, then probably Protostar can't complain when the Dominion/Exiles shoot it down.	
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