135410-mouse-look-vs-uh-non-mouse-look

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I tried to swap between modes, but the hotkey that should do so simply did nothing.
 
I tried rebinding it to something else, but the issue persisted.	
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			Which mode do you prefer?  I am a Mouse Look guy, makes combat, especially PvP incredibly stream lined and natural feeling for me.  ( Also, what would the technical term be for non-mouse look... normal? )	
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Which mode do you prefer?  I am a Mouse Look guy, makes combat, especially PvP incredibly stream lined and natural feeling for me.  ( Also, what would the technical term be for non-mouse look... normal? )
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			I still play allot of GW2 and a few others that have the same control scheme.. Even though I had friends that were joyed with this option I just can not convince myself to use it. Still there seems to be an issue with mouse control. At times my mouse just wont interact with anything unless I /reloadui. 	
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I tried to swap between modes, but the hotkey that should do so simply did nothing.
 
I tried rebinding it to something else, but the issue persisted.
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I'm a chronic screen-shotter, so I can't do mouselock :P
I'm fine with holding down my mouselook button forever.	
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			I'm typically one that prefers a reticule but only in games that are built for it from the ground up. This game isn't so it's going to feel a bit odd and make certain things difficult, so I'm just sticking with the standard scheme.	
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I rebound my "Hold To Stop Mouse Looking" to Ctrl-X.... can you guys not for some reason?
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I alternative between it.
 
Loving the options so far :)	
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			never been a fan of mouselock so... no mouselock	
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			Love it. :wub:	
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			I love it for PvP. I have it set to just happen in combat, makes it a lot easier then the default scheme.	
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			I don't see the point in a game where mouse 1/2 aren't tied to basic combat actions. It's a necessary evil in games like Tera or Skyforge, but I find it annoying even then.	
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			i love the tera/bns style of combat so is very nice to have the option here, it feels better for me with it on	
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			What's the difference? 	
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			i am so used to my finger being permanently pressed on the button that the transition to mouselock messes me up lol, i like the idea but retraining the finger is more challenging than i thought =p	
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			 non mouse look all the way!!!!!!	
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			So, from my experience, I enjoy both only because I like being able to click on things with my mouse, so I have been making quite a bit of use of the mouse look suppression hotkeys.  Of course, I also have a Razer Naga so it makes using my abilities so much easier when I'm not using mouse look.  When I am using mouselook, however, it feels so smooth.  I'm considering setting up xpadder to control the game now.	
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I don't see the point in a game where mouse 1/2 aren't tied to basic combat actions. It's a necessary evil in games like Tera or Skyforge, but I find it annoying even then.
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Mouse look definitely. 
 
I used to be an hold-RMB type of guy with MMOs, but Neverwinter cured me of that, and ever since, I've stuck mouselook on my MMOs (with a key set to switch modes) whenever I can (e.g. with Autohotkey).
 
I don't understand why Carbine would have thought that a hold-RMB system would work in a game as fairly fast-paced and based on positioning as this.	
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+1 Mouselook
 
Having my Builder and Main-Spender Abilities on Left- and Rightclick together with "hold to continue casting" saves both my hands from being injured pretty fast. :D	
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I rather like it...but it's still obviously in beta.  Mouse look all the time makes it awkward when you need to click on something (I probably just haven't noticed the key to bring up the cursor) and unfortunately even when using mouse look the game still tracks the position of the cursor.  Meaning that if you're looking at something with mouse look and your cursor is tracked at the middle of the screen then the little information box about what you've moused over will be stuck there until you look elsewhere...which is annoying when it happens in combat.
 
I mean that could just be me but I dunno.  Kind of like mouse look in this game, though, makes the third person action feel better overall.	
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I rather like it...but it's still obviously in beta.  Mouse look all the time makes it awkward when you need to click on something (I probably just haven't noticed the key to bring up the cursor) and unfortunately even when using mouse look the game still tracks the position of the cursor.  Meaning that if you're looking at something with mouse look and your cursor is tracked at the middle of the screen then the little information box about what you've moused over will be stuck there until you look elsewhere...which is annoying when it happens in combat.
 
I mean that could just be me but I dunno.  Kind of like mouse look in this game, though, makes the third person action feel better overall.
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You have to bind the hotkey in more than one column. There is (from memory) a "mouse free" column (the middle one) and a "mouse look" column (the right hand one). You have to bind the toggle in these two columns.
 
I'm not sure why, but it works then.
 
I absolutely love mouselock, and in raids and now find combat far less efficient without it. I had never used mouselock in 10 years of mmo gaming, but WS has changed that. 
 
My only gripe is that the game won't let me bind left shift to be the "hold toggle" button. Other than that, the implementation is phenomenal.
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I tried to swap between modes, but the hotkey that should do so simply did nothing.
 
I tried rebinding it to something else, but the issue persisted.
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I use Mouse-Look now. it's something Wildstar should have started out with to begin with.
 
Now my only problem, seems to be healing my allies in a dugeon. If i'm selected as a "healer" I will more than likely use the normal settings "point and click" in order to heal, and keep up with team-mates healing and or damage. Other than that, mouse to look was a very much "Needed" option in Wildstar.	
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I use Mouse-Look now. it's something Wildstar should have started out with to begin with.
 
Now my only problem, seems to be healing my allies in a dugeon. If i'm selected as a "healer" I will more than likely use the normal settings "point and click" in order to heal, and keep up with team-mates healing and or damage. Other than that, mouse to look was a very much "Needed" option in Wildstar.
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I'm playing a Healslinger as Twink, no need for targetting. Feels just like Pew Pew on Mobs, but instead i target Allies. :D
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You use the mouse with both methods, so both are mouse looks. :) So it's rather mouse lock or locked view and free mouse/view or something.
 
I'm not a fan tbh, because I like to look around a lot. And by looking around I mean look around with the camera, not with the character. How do you look the other way with mouse lock during pumping damage or heals? Or how do you check the landscape while riding on a mount? I just use the mouse too much to look at my game from different angles, so I prefer the old free look. I guess it's a playstyle thing. It's good that it is in the game, but it definetly should stay a toggle and not the only method.
			
				
	Edited October 2, 2015 by Strayhand	
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I tried to swap between modes, but the hotkey that should do so simply did nothing.
 
I tried rebinding it to something else, but the issue persisted.
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Strayhand: What's your point? It is a toggle right now.
 
Where do you have to look when you deal damage or heal? In my opinion you should look at your target... ;)
 
Sidenote: I play with a higher FOV (Field of View - customizeable via Options) than most people (Standard is 60, i'm playing with 90 if i remember correctly), so i do not have to look around that much.	
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Where do you have to look when you deal damage or heal? In my opinion you should look at your target... ;)
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			I dont like using mouselook unless its a FPS game.  In MMOs i tend to play as tanks, and i can usually generate aggro on a target and look around for threats at the same time.  Or I can be running forward but looking backwards or to the sides. Usually i'll have my camera set so that it does not automatically get behind me when i start running.  That was i can move and left click hold and then pan the camera around as needed.
			
				
	Edited October 2, 2015 by wildstarnewbie	
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			I tried mouselock(?) but it didn't quite work as I had in mind, mostly because I tend to sort my inventory when on the move.. I do play by holding down my RMB to move and turn around though. :P	
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Managed to get mouse look to work, not sure why it wasn't working before.
 
Much better this way, for me (I was already used to it from playing TERA).	
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GarfrostPAX: You can assign a Toggle Button to turn it off on-the-fly. So you can use it only when you know you gonna go fighting. :)
 
Strayhand: Sorry, i misunderstood you there. Personal reference is always, well, something personal i guess. :D
 
wildstarnewbie: Did you do Endgame Raids in Wildstar? If not: wait until you get there, then we talk again about "looking around" while tanking. :P	
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I dont like using mouselook unless its a FPS game.  In MMOs i tend to play as tanks, and i can usually generate aggro on a target and look around for threats at the same time.  Or I can be running forward but looking backwards or to the sides. Usually i'll have my camera set so that it does not automatically get behind me when i start running.  That was i can move and left click hold and then pan the camera around as needed.
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			Hmm, I'll look into that tonight. Might be useful.. Although to be honest I've played like the way I do now for years, so holding down a button is really not that bad. 	
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wildstarnewbie: Did you do Endgame Raids in Wildstar? If not: wait until you get there, then we talk again about "looking around" while tanking. :P
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Without mouselook I couldn't play this game because of RSI problems. I have it setup to toggle it on and off like I did when I was using an addon.
 
I can't figure out how to bind skills to the right and left mouse buttons though? I thought that was part of it. That would take some strain off my other hand thats doing finger gymnastics to reach all the keys.	
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Comparing WoW Dungeons and Raids to Wildstar. This is awesome,you just put a big smile on my face right now. :D
 
Sorry Bro, you have no idea what awaits you. :ph34r:
			
				
	Edited October 2, 2015 by Charmz81	
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Comparing WoW Dungeons and Raids to Wildstar. This is awesome,you just put a big smile on my face right now. :D
 
Sorry Bro, you have no idea what awaits you. :ph34r:
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SileneKitty i got your back! :D
 
Go into Options - Keybindings - to your favorite LAS ability slot under action - on the right side you can set keys that are used when in mouselook!
 
There are 3 different rows, normal mode, dont know mode, and mouselook, for every mode you can set a different keybind.	
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			I haven't been able to play longer than 10 minutes each day since free to play so only got to try it for a minute. Hopefully I can practice with it this weekend. Got to try it for about 1 minute and then got kicked from server. Will take some practice and getting used to.	
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wildstarnewbie: Did you do Endgame Raids in Wildstar? If not: wait until you get there, then we talk again about "looking around" while tanking. :P
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Strayhand: This is true for X-89, the only Boss where i disable Mouselook. You want to aim his shots right, therefore you have to look behind you.
 
Where the rest of the raid is should be fixed by strategy beforehand, if someone is positioning wrong it is his fault, not the tank's one. Just wait until you get deeper into GA or even DS and you know what i am talking about.
 
I played both types now for a long time, and im glad i trained playing with Mouselook because i can react faster and have easy to push Buttons for my most used Abilities.	
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SileneKitty i got your back! :D
 
Go into Options - Keybindings - to your favorite LAS ability slot under action - on the right side you can set keys that are used when in mouselook!
 
There are 3 different rows, normal mode, dont know mode, and mouselook, for every mode you can set a different keybind.
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Thinking on this further, free mouselook should be the default, with the "old skool" RMB steering as an option for those who want it.  (In fact, as a toggle it's fine - sometimes I like to walk/run while panning round too.)
 
I think I'd have been put off the game if I'd had to struggle through all that ground AoE signage with RMB steering, it really is hella clunky in comparison to most other action-combat-oriented modern MMOs which have gone the free mouselook route (GW2 seems to be the holdout - but GW2 isn't nearly so ground-AoE-sign-intensive as Wildstar).
 
I think it must have put a fair number of people off the game, initially.  Most people aren't committed enough to look for mods or autohotkey in the first instance.
			
				
	Edited October 2, 2015 by gurugeorgey	
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			I am a fan of the strategic camera (no camera centering and no mouse look) so i can get a full view around me without losing out on dps 	
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Finding the mouselook option saved the game for me.
 
After playing games the past few years with primarily mouselook controls, I have had a real struggle going back to games without it.
 
Glad they offer the option here, much more smooth gameplay for me now.	
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After playing tons of Tera I was already used to 'Mouselook' being always on so I'm grateful that this game can be set up to essentially be exactly the same.
 
For me, the ability to bind -all- of my abilities to the mouse is essential in an action game.
 
As a brief example, I have 'tab' set as a toggle for Mouselook for when I want to rotate my camera or use Menu's. (Which is sometimes handy, but I find I only need it for menu browsing while stationary)
 
For abilities I have them bound to Mouse1, Mouse2, and (since I have a 9 button mouse) Thumb1, and Thumb 2. Then I simply use 'Shift' as a modifier for all of the above. It makes power casting simple and I don't need to constantly hold down a button simply to look around. For targeting I simply have CTRL+Thumb1 bound to 'Target Closest Enemy' and CTRL+Thumb2 bound to 'Cycle Enemies'. There are a few other bindings I use for things like my class power but I won't bother you with those.
 
Simple and elegant. Wildstar gets an A+ in control scheme's from me, and that's pretty rare for me personally.
 
Oh, and the fact I can use -different- keybinds while not using the mouselook function is also really nice although rarely useful.
			
				
	Edited October 2, 2015 by SpaceJew	
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			Much prefer mouse look. Im glad I don't have to use an add on for it anymore.	
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