Report 963

Report #963
Skillset: Skill: Various
 Org: Moondancers Status: Completed Mar 2017
Furies' Decision:
We will look into both solution 1 and 2, but may decline at a future date due to
complexity.
Problem: Dealing with a large entourage ( especially, but not limited to
guardians/wiccans ) can sometimes be a little cumbersome. This report aims to
improve that by providing slight improvement to handling these entourages,
especially when trying to order or synchronize them. This report aims to improve
the handling of these entities.
[A: 8 R: 2] Solution #1: Create a new command for guardians/wiccans that will,
 for 1p and 2seconds equlibrium, synchronize all their
 guardian/wiccan entourage to attack in unison.
[A:16 R: 0] Solution #2: Change order to target your entourage before
 targetting things in the room, avoiding the need to
 fiddle with numbers when trying to order specific
 parts of your entourage, thus allowing to do 'order
 kitten follow Bob' will always pick the first kitten
 in your entourage, not the first kitten in the room
 unless there's no entourage. (If that's not possible,
 create a new syntax to have this ability).
[A: 1 R: 2] Solution #3: Additional solutions welcome
Player Comments:
---[Wobou on 3/6 @ 14:21 writes]:
Both solutions sound fine to me. Solution 2 is a great quality of life change
(I've been burned by this as a monk even) but I'm wondering if we can just make
any ORDER command check for mobs which are loyal to you before the mobs in the
room rather than add a special syntax. Unless there's a special case I'm missing
there's never a reason to ORDER a mob that's not loyal to you, and if there is
that would be the time to specifically use an item id. I suggest checking
loyalty instead because I think technically your entourage are the things
already following you, so unless I'm mistaken once you do something like tumble
out and lose your entourage you'd lose this QoL change.
---[Aeldra on 3/6 @ 15:18 writes]:
Changed Solution #2 as per Wobou's suggestion and include to make only a new
syntax if order can't be changed for some reason.
---[Xenthos on 3/13 @ 02:54 writes]:
I'm hesitant about solution 1 only in that it allows things like 3 Wiccans
synchronizing their entire entourages together (already possible, actually, and
we've seen it happen before with Wiccans syncing their pixies to all fire
together, but this would make it trivially easy for 3+x
banshee/pixie/pooka/specialfae/etc -all- going together for some pretty
significant burst potential). Solution 2 is a great idea.
---[Demartel on 3/15 @ 19:38 writes]:
Solution 2 only
---[Shango on 3/15 @ 22:39 writes]:
I actually though Solution 2 was already the default as it is. So yes, supported
---[Shuyin on 3/16 @ 01:39 writes]:
Solution 2 only preferred, but I won't object to solution 1 because I am super
biased
---[Shedrin on 3/16 @ 04:24 writes]:
A way to mitigate Xenthos' concern would be to reset the fae/enterouge's attack
timer to the max +1-5 seconds randomly.
---[Auriella on 3/16 @ 06:24 writes]:
Wiccans already do this manually one fae at a time, so I don't see why just
adding in a command for them at a power cost to make life easier is opposed, its
no real different than flashflood for mages in my opinion. Or could perhaps just
make it so when they use FaeConverge it aligns all their attacks, it costs
10p/5p on Ethereal.
---[Aeldra on 3/16 @ 13:00 writes]:
I am not really sure what the concen really is. If I want to time 3 pixies,
three illuminati pets, whatever... it's not matter, I can just do it as easily
with a script that I share to three people. Sure it may be a little easier with
option 1. My goal with solution 1 is to remove all the custom scripts peopel use
to time their own fae. If it's -that- big a concern, can always just make the
timing that's assigned on use of the skill a random one in the 10 second (
doesn't all need to be the same timer, like person a has their fae synced at 3
seconds, person 2 has them at 8 seconds, etc )
---[Xenthos on 3/16 @ 21:25 writes]:
It's more that it makes it trivially easy to synchronize up all the fae for a
bunch of Wiccans -all together- (instead of just one at a time). Yes, you can
do it now, but it's difficult enough that it doesn't really happen all that much
(like I said, most that really has been used was sync'ing pixies for insta-
sleep-lock but all the other fae were still on their own bals). But Shedrin's
thought of adjusting the tick by a random amount would definitely address my
concern (and you could consider my vote changed to a Yes if that change is
included, Admin-folk reading this).
---[Lerad on 3/18 @ 01:48 writes]:
Shedrin's idea for solution 1 sounds like a good idea.