111642-cloth-way-too-difficult-to-obtain

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When leveling my tailor to the whimfiber cloth, i suddenly realized none was available or farmable.Having search this forum and google, it became apparent I wasn't alone in this thinking cloth absurdly difficult and over unavailable. I did attempt to farm it from NPC's in bio dome 4 as suggested on the web, from the archanist huminoids. Frustrating, very frustrating. After going from level 31 to 32.5 trying to get it to drop, i had only gotted 2 peices, yes two only.The auction only had 14 peices for sale and they were going for 49 silver a peice. This is just broken, IMO. I have no trouble getting leather, ore or any other mats; but cloth is just unreasonably difficult.WHY?
 
What am i doing wrong, not understanding? For now I am done with it, sadly I was enjoying my esper the most; but she has been shelved due to not being able to make her next set of gear. 	
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			I am not a tailor.  However, my tailor buddy farms Whitevale for whimfiber.  He also collects mineral ores for money so that he can buy whimfiber from NPCs.  Not sure if that helps.	
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			my tailor isnt very high leveled, but i did notice some patterns for turning each tier's "rare" plant into cloth. bladeleaf, goldleaf, witherwood, etc. while likely not a very efficient use of these plants, its an alternative way to farm cloth	
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			I think switching those recipes to the common plants that aren't used for much of nothing would be a good idea.	
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			This is the part where i tell you that cloth drops were nurfed, twice, in closed beta. (because other professions were complaining about drop rates of costume pieces + cloth off humanoids, back when it used to spill out of them)	
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This is the part where i tell you that cloth drops were nurfed, twice, in closed beta. (because other professions were complaining about drop rates of costume pieces + cloth off humanoids, back when it used to spill out of them)
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			I dont find it too hard to obtain any of these materials.  Mobs seem to still drop them like hotcakes (I am often vendoring a large portion of starloom cloth specifically).	
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 Mobs seem to still drop them like hotcakes (I am often vendoring a large portion of starloom cloth specifically).
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Agreed, at least compared to leather, where you pretty much have to be a Survivalist to see acceptable drops.
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After going to the area in whitevale where the level 27-28 humanoids are, I found that whimfiber dropped there. After an hour i had 25 peices, which wasn't nearly what i was needing. Returning to the broker to see if any more had been added, I found 99 peices were up at 1 gold a peice, so i blew a plat and bought them. Much more difficult to get the base mat of cloth than to get ore for armor / weapon making or leather from what I can tell. I have a armor maker, a weapon maker and an outfitter too. If i farm NPC's my level to get the mats for gear my level, it takes more time and effort to get the quanity needed. Not the case for my armor maker, weapon maker or survivalist, which can farm a home improvement for the mats. Yes, a garden will grow the seeds you had to go find and farm, then use 5 to make 1 cloth; but that isn't like just mining a node and having the ore you need for a peice from 1 node.Where tailor's do not get to make a gear peice like: shields, weapon mod or support system, they instead get a skill for making 5 plants into 1 peice of cloth. Seems lame to me. Where they do not have to have a 2nd professions of mining or survivalist, they also do not get the benifit of a housing improvement where you can easily obtain the materials either. IMO - the cloth drop rate is way too low.Here is an exampe why:1) Whimfiber = 1 gold per peice, a crafted item takes 5 peices = 5 gold.
2) Refined power core = 4 gold.
3) About 1 gold for the other mats.
 
that's 10 gold just to make a piece, so how much should i ask for it? How much would you pay for it? My experiance is nobody wants to pay 15 - 20 gold for an item like this, unless it is maybe a PVP peice which takes a battle or two to get the points to buy 1 of the PVP mats and you may need 2 for the pattern. Then if the randomness of the stats and potential fail rate of pushing a stat to make it a worth while construction, it still may fail and you lose your mats altogether. So I can and may blow through a lot of expensive mats to get the peice I want; but rarely can I sell one.
 
I say the 25 in an hour wasn't enough because i needed to level into the bracket of gear making my level as cloth was so hard to get and so expensive I hadn't been able to progress the profession. Since mostly i just PVP, I had to stop and PVE (which i do not enjoy so much) to farm the mats. I can PVP all day and just visit my housing plot periodically to farm my ore, wood, leather ... but no not cloth i must suffer for cloth, it is written thou must suffer for cloth, lol. Please up the drop rate or let me have a profession to gather cloth from my housing plot.	
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Nonsense.  Just going to the wrong spot.  Can farm a couple hundred an hour in the right spot.
 
Just need to know where to look / get these things!
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I think the point is that you should not have go to specific spots to farm basic materials for your craft. :P
Doesn't bother me right now, as I don't have a character with Outfitter, but I'm just saying I noticed I got a lot more cloth than leather in my bags from playing normally.
And since people are even complaining about cloth drop frequency from playing normally... yeah, you get the point.
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I am hoping you are not being serious...
 
Common sense dictates that you would need to go to specific spots to farm materials for your particular craft.  It's been in nearly every MMO...
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Man what? Who cares about MMO conventions, the point is it's not like that for the other crafts in Wildstar. Herbs, minerals, wood are spread all over the map for every tier of crafting. You can get enough of them without specifically farming/grinding. I know for a fact because I leveled them to Expert tier without ever stopping to go "well time to grind ingredient X".  :huh:
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You wont just acquire the materials as you level, you always, without fail, have to farm at least a bit to get them.  I levelled to 50 along with my bro and between us I didn't need to do any farming for cloth.  I don't think the rate is that bad but whimfiber does seem the worst of the lot.
 
Bio Dome 3 and 4 are your friend!
 
If you are doing the dailies at 50 you have Starloom coming out of your backside too!	
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			Best way to farm Whimfiber is Illium/Thayd. And I'm not talking about the CX.	
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			I find having a constant supply of cloth to be a pain. Starloom and Manaweave and their respective plants are difficult to come by for me. I grind on mobs and barely have half of what I need for the crafting dailies. All the plants needed to make cloth are considered rare. Salvaging the white items usually provide one bloodbriar or one cloth which is ridiculous. Sounds like tailoring was overnerfed, maybe?	
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			Protip: you can "convert" silk cloth into whimfiber, by crafting a lv23 or 24 item and salvaging it.	
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Gotta love how much grief in this game is literally caused by pure spite and jealousy.
 
"I don't want them to have things I don't have!!!"
 
"...well does it affect you in any way? You could just be a tailor yourself if you think tailoring is so easy."
 
"NO! I don't want to be a failor. I just don't want tailors to have it easy!"
 
"Why not?"
 
"BECAUSE!  :angry: "
 
Apply same thought pattern to dye, attunement, loot, etc. discussions (except it's usually the reverse, i.e. "I don't want them to have things I have").
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			I don't think it's too much to ask to have to farm to obtain crafting materials.    I farmed Herbs as I levelled up and had my tailor decked out no problem.   Farm herbs, plant seeds.  Yes, it's a pain in the ass to run to every single witherwood I see, but it was worth it.    I think a better solution is to increase the spawn amounts/areas of the herbs.    It's a decent conversion, 4-5 herbs give 4-5 cloth.   Seed planting is definitely key (do it on an alt with no share on).	
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 Here's a revolutionary idea..if tailoring is so hard to aquire materials.(yeah right)
 
I know... I know... why not make it so a tailor has increased drop rates of tailor materials.. I should be paid for being a true genius.	
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