Widnes Examiner. — 1909-08-14 (Widnes, Cheshire, England)

FULTON-SMITH said that if they went to Garston any day of the week they would see no end of sheep dip and loads of arsenic on tire quay unprotected. There was no restriction and that made it all the more difficult for him, not being an expart,'to know what was the best thing to be done in the circumstances. He was convinced that if a num was determined to commit suicide he would get some poison to carry out his end. Councillor STEEL thought the licences might he granted to seedsmen under conditions which. would 'sufficiently protect the public. Councillor SKELL AND supported the action of the Committee on the ground that they ought to make it easy to do right and hard to do wrong. Councillor VERNON supported the amendment and said he did not see that there was any: more danger in an unqualified person selling poison in a seed shop than in a chemist's shop. Poisons were sold by unqualified persons. _  " Alderman TINNION : In Warrington. Councillor VERNON: Yes. I could name one case in Warrington.  Councillor SINGLETON said he used more sheep dip than all the members of the Council combined. Ile had known dogs who had had a belly full of the sheep dip and it had not poisoned them. Some of the remarks which had been made that evening about the matter were all rubbish.  Councillor LORD pointed out that a certain information had been received from the Privy Council, and he thought the matter might be further considered by the Health Committee in the light of that communication. Alderman TINNION euggested that Councillor Roberts should withdraw his motion with reference to granting licences to Messrs. Starkey and Pierpoint. The committee might bring forward certain propositions which would meet with the acceptance of the Council. If Councillor Roberts was not satiEfied he could give notice next month.  Councillor ROBERTS: I shall not sit down under a condition of things in which the chemists of Warrington will get a monopoly of the plums while the stones are left to the seedsmen. If the Health Committee will give an assurance that in the reconsideration of the matter they will do justly by all the parties. Councillor Dr. JOSEPH : That word justly has come out to often. We don't mean any. injustice to anybody. Councillor ROBERTS: I am going to say what I feel and what I think about the matter. (Cries of "Vote.") The question put to me was whether I would withdraw the notice.' lam stating conditions. (" Vote.") You don't close my mouth in that way Dr. Joseph, don't you fancy it for a moment. If the Council IS willing to listen to my conditions—(Cries )f "Chair.") I am not abusing the privileges of the chair. Councillor PESIBERTON : I think RS the Council has asked Councillor Roberts if he will w.ithdraw, he has a right to say on what conditions he will withdraw. Councillor ROBERTS: I did not raise the question as to whether the motion should be discussed or not. The question was raised by Alderman Tinnion and put to  me as a question ani lam replying to that. If it is not convenient for Alderman Tinnion to hear it, I cannot help it.  Alderman TINNION: It is not convenient to sit here, as at two previous meetings, and here at least twenty separate speeches from Councillor Roberts. Councillor ROBERTS: You are one of those individuals wham Winston Churchill described as guilty of terminological inexactitudes. When the Mayor says I am out of order I am willing to sit down. At present am trying, in spite of a good deal of opposition and interruption, to give the conditions under which I am prepared to withdraw my notice. Councillor Dr. JOSEPH : Don't impute motives. Councillor ROBERTS: You talk like a lot of children who don't know their own minds. On the amendment being put to the meeting it was passed by 13 votes to 7.  _ • Councillor ROBKRTS then withdrew his notice of motion.