The Sun. — 1835-08-04 (London, England)

CARNARVON." A more miraculous version than this, is not recorded in sacred or profane lust His Grace expressly states that he was converted by 60111 quence of counsel ; but it unluckily happens that durinlV; major part of Sir CHARLES WETUIERELL'S speech, on So.to day, he was fast asleep ! Ay, and not only fast asleepi v.; snoring--actually snoring !--in a way that must have conyil the most incredulous how profound was the attention whit he, sentence by sentence, paid to the arguments of Learned Gentleman ! A fact like this needs no comment', Lord NIELBOURNE'S speech was one of the finest display; stern, straight-forward eloquence it ever fell to our lot hear. It was worthy of a Spartan senator in the best dat Spartan integrity. His Lordship broadly stated that be Pi been " deceived and misled"—emphatic words from oaqii never says more than he means, or is prepared to by--" as to the intentions of the opponents of the poration Bill ;" and that he would never again " into such an understanding with those, who afterli may not have the will, or may want the power, to give etroetA; them." Bravo, my Lord ! The people to whose inflo'," you here indirectly allude, will stand by you thror gh. your struggles. Let the thunder howl—let the 'sight . flash—no matter, you have still the means, tkoimigh tit allaying the storm, and purging the at its impurities ! England is with you. Ireland is tip you. Scotland is with you. 7..osphere 0' y then with an, 'sp apprehensions. Scatter distrust the armour of the Constitutio:-., ; uplift the oriflamme of _Tip dom ; and thousands—m. 4..0 the winds. Buckle ';:tions shall hasten from all goal:4 to rally under the last year, by august banner. The insult passed v.,':ur unceremonious dismissal from offioel, not fore:-.;(ten by us. You were the Minister of j? free, unbiassed choice; and we felt and still feel, _.„„4 in the affront then levelled at you, we ourselves ris affronted. We subjoin his Lordship's closing obserratinosPlot they are full of emphasis. A more solemn warning 10_01 been pronounced within the walls of the House of Lords, '`. t CHATHAm's famous declaration against the American war `• My Lords, the Learned Counsel at your bar has told you that Bill will prove the destruction of this House—' ilia dies utra7di ducet ruinani.' Why, my Lords, every one who knows the PP°7 thus quoted by the Learned Counsel, knows that it alludes toad ) self-immolation—of self-destruction—of suicide, my Lords; and 0' d Lords, I can agree with the Learned Counsel, in thinking that 0,0 follow the advice offered to you with respect to this Bill, it may tad! prove the destruction of you. House." AO We close these hasty remarks with a few words of to the people. Meet--petition—remonstrate I Do not dress the House of Lords, for it is useless; but Del your appeal •to the KING and the Commons. them, in respectful but decided terms, that as demand nothing but what is your's by constitutional right ito you will accept of no compromise—of nothing short of a s wholesale restoration of your privileges. Tell them, also, that ~ ,5 will not be put down by a faction ; that iftheir Lordshipstri"s" to cut their own throats—so be it, they shall not cut yorio; that you respect them, but you have a still greater renpelo yourselves: that, in short, you arc as unanimous—as ren°o —and as determined to have justice done you, as ever Id your patriotic ancestors in the days of CHARLES the 1"1,; Use language of this sort, and possibly their Lordships ols1„00 induced to throw away the axe with which they have just 'so, furnished themselves, for no other purpose, as it rryid nee than to strike at the roots of their own existence.  The Irish Church Reform Bill was re-committed night, and the Report ordered to be brought up this (I A discussion of considerable interest arose on the j, clause, by which it is proposed to remit the million ; vanced to the Irish Clergy in 1833, to be repaid (y of the tithes. Mr. D. W. HAnvEY opened the y bate in a speech of considerable ability, in which or shewed the hardship imposed upon the people of land in being so unceremoniously called upon to lt the debts due to the Irish Clergy by the people of that c°: is stytry. There can, we think, be but one opinion on this s ject—the hardship of the case is universally admitted; iv difficulty is how to avoid it. The Government advanced money to the Clergy, taking its chance of repayment from arrears of tithes then due, which it thought it had the P°L of recovering. It tried to recover these arrears, and got 12.u:ist at an expense of 28,0001. ! Such a mode of repayment to not likely to be very advantageous if persevered in, and 0 Government wisely desisted from enforcing the claim. Ltd, now proposed to convert tithes into a rent charge on the ilk payable by parties never before liable for tithes, and theoe blem to be solved is who is to pay the arrears? Werflo question to be decided in a court of law there would by 1101-01, culty whatever. The judge would tell the jury that the 'de, tivator of the soil is the party liable. But these parties 0, dare, one and all, they wont pay, and they are SEVSN Soo