The Sun. — 1830-10-04 (London, England)

SEPT. 29.  The debate on the two questions proposed in the Royal Message or 13th September were continued yesterday in the General Committee, and concluded in the evening, which lasted till nine o'clock. His Excellency the Minister of the Interion.was not present at the morning sitting, but attended in the evening; he did not however address the assembly. Several members delivered their opinions more or less in detail. We understand that the Deputies from the southern provinces no longer insisted on a complete and total separation, which however is asserted to be the most ardent wish of the Belgians, by Messrs. de Cella, de Secur, Barthelemy de Langhe, de Brouckere, Cornet de Gres. and Thryantan d'Anneeroix, in their Proclamation ha r d spe deibiaec, of the 3d of this month. On the contrary, Members from the southern provinces have required only the srpa. ration Faille, ofof certainAntwe r pi n, tadrelelit:e'red a whileM. G e veryremarkable which made an impression on the assembly, to the effect that the separation between the southern and northern parts of the kingdom would be most ruinous for the southern provinces. "By the separation," he said," the King would be placed in a most strange and disagreeable position the King would be the only Dutchman in Belgium, and the only Belgian in Holland ; and notwithstanding all Isis goodness and paternal solicitude for the interests of both parts of his kingdom, would in the end be misunderstood by both. Such a state of things cannot and must not exist. I see in it," said the speaker, "an eternal source of discord and the ruin of Belgium; nay, I do not hesitate to say, that if the separation takes place, the welfare of the southern provinces will depend entirely on their union with France, all Belgians must of necessity look to such a union as the only means to repair their loss ; but such a union, if it should ever take place, would be but a small alleviation of our deplorable fate. The desire for the union is said to be general, and more than one person has intimated that the authors of the system of separation entertain that desire. But can it be supposed that European policy will admit of such a union A total and complete separation, such as several Members of this Assembly, from the northern provinces, desire, would not be merely a division, but a total dissolution of the kingdom ; and to this I can never give my consent. No, Gentlemen, I will never consent to a political suicide. I will never contribute by my vote to the destruction of our manefactures, our agriculture, and our commerce--40 the ruin of one of the chief emporia of Europe, and of that great manufacturing town which we proudly call the Manchester of Belgium. such sacrifices cannot be voted, but must be inflicted." The debate being concluded, the Chamber proceeded to the vote on the two questions. The result of which was that the first question, relative to the alteration of the fundamental law, was announced in the affirmative by a ma.. jority of 60 votes to 44, six Members not having voted. The second question, relative to the separation of the two parts of the kingdom, was also carried in the affirmative, by a majority of 65 to 43 votes, two Members having declined voting. There were 100 Members present. The Chambers then resolved to send the Royal Message with its announcement to the First Chamber. We can positively contradict the statement given by some persons that the army, on its leaving Brussels, lost some pieces of cannon. The retreat was effected without loss. According to the report of Tuesday last the 'headquarters were still at Diegbern. It is said to-day that they have been removed to Vilvorde. The insurgents have remained in Brussels since the departure of the troops. Tilt