The Sun. — 1833-03-28 (London, England)

HON. MEMBER, had opposed the clause on the lest occasion, and he would not now support it. He was of opinion then, and still held the same, that the clause would only have the effect of misleading the country. He was inclined to oppose this amendment because he had no confidence in the quarter from which it came in any matter with regard to Ireland.—(Cries of " Oh.") lie had not that confidence, because the party to which the lion. and Learned Member belonged had fir 200 years an unlimited power in Ireland, and had left what was by nature a country and people unparalleled for their advantages in climate and situation, degraded, wretched and impoverished.  Mr..C. W. WYNN said, that he considered himse:f pledged to support the property of the Church in lrel.nd, as well as every other description of property, and should therefore vote for the amendment.  Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that former Acts provided for the extra protection of tithes, and they were therefore recognised as in a better situation than rents ; therefore any alteration now but went to restore an egnis libriutn. Mr. JOHNSTON said a few words in opposition to the clause.  Mr. SHAW put it to the Committee to say whether they would allow an obvious absurdity to remain in the Bill. After a few words from Mr. CHRISTMAS, Sir E. KNATCHBULL called the attention of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman opposite, his Majesty's Solicitor-General, to the clause before the Committee, requesting hint to mite what would be its legal operation. Mr. LAMBERT said it was his decided opinion that the distutb.tnces iu Ireland arose chiefly from a hatred to tithes, and therefore after the voluntary alterations made by Ministers, and the introductionof the clause then before them, he could give the Bill his indepen'ent and unpurchased support. The Hon. Nletuber then proceeded to complain of certain articles published in journals said to  be under the influence of the Hon. and Learned Member for Dublin, in which most unwarrantable reflections were made upon Hon. Members of that House. It was not to be suit red that Members were to be held up to pu lie odium in Ireland for the expression of their hottest votes, and the giving their hones . opinioas in that House. That might be nothing in England, but in Ireland it might be murder. The Committee then divided on the question, that the proviso proposed to be left out should be part of the clause. Ayes 123 Noes 44 Majority for the Clause as it stood -79 Clause to stand part of the Bill. Clause 6th, agreed to with verbal amendments.  In clause 10th, after a short conversation, an amendment was inserted at the suggestion of Mr. O'Connell, removing the words " any person," and substituting " any officer commanding the district," the object of which was to take away from Magistrates and police-officers the power to hold courtsmartial, and place that power exclusively in the officers command:lig districts. The clause, with other verbal amencnen,s, agreed to. In clause 14, Mr. STANLEY introduced two provisos. The purport of the first was, that no forfeiture of goods or chattels should ensue by reason of any conviction laid under this Act. The purpoi t of the second was, that no sentence of transportation passed by the courtsmartial shall In carried into effect, unless sanctioned by the Lord Lieutenant, or other chief governor of Ireland.—Bmh provisos agreed to.. In clause 16th, verbal admendments were made. Mr. SHAW objecred to the amendment on elle 19th clause, by which, instead of giving Illaistrates a summary power of convicting and imprisoning persons for three months who did not disperse on being summoned to do so, it was provided that offenders under these circumstances. should be tried by a jury. Atter a faw observations, in support of the amendment, by Mr. Stanley, Mr. O'Connell, the Solicitor-General, mid Mr. Shell, and by Mr. Shaw: in reply, the clause, with the verbal amendments, was agreed to. Mr. O.'