Star. — 1813-06-26 (London, England)

ATTORNEY-GENERAL said k was not his intention to have spoken; but he could not avoid expressing his astonishment, that, after so much consideration, the Hon. Gentleman could not make any proposition but to enter the narrative on the Journals of the House. He wished to ask him if he meant to ground any other proceeding on that proposition ? [Mr. Creevey said he would not be questioned.] He imagined not; and it was extraordinary, that in a ease where the privileges of the House were conserned, no other course was pursued. But did the Hon. Member hereafter mean to move to impeach the sudges or to address for their rem Oval ? or did he intrnd to call up the judgment for revision ? The Hon. and. Learned Gentleman then alluded to what he called reflections on a Judge now no more, and another who had retired Leith the highest character a man could passess—he would state his recollection of the matter. then detailed the proceedings in the Courts—deri:ed that malice was necessary to constitute a libel— cited the case of a murderer, who should kill his master and mistress without malice ; and said, that the Hon. Member had inferred that the Judges had dealt out a different measure of justice to him because he was obnoxious to the Guvernment, and that they 'were guilty of the greatest enormities, because they thought it would give good pleasure to the Ruling Powers. This he denied. Lord Ellenhorough had not said that he had never heard of the pi ivilege of Members to explain their sentimeats to their constituents ; but he had said, that he had never heard of their privilege to libel all the King's subjects. With regard to the sentence complained of, it was well known that the sentence was that of all the Judges ; but the corrective admonitions belonged only to him 'rho gave them. The Learned Judge, in delivering the sentence, was accounting for its lenity. He said, that the prosecution had been brought forward for private purposes, and had somehat of malice in it, and therefore the sentence was less severe ; but that the great object of the Hon. Gentleman's speech was to attack the late Mr. Perceval, and through him the Government. These, he confessed, were severe observations, but they were not libellous; and, in apologising for the lenity of the sentence, the Learned Judge had not made up for it by libelling the person on whom it was passed. He wished the words had been more guarded, but they did not weigh a grain in the sentence. The rights of the House would not be at all trenched on by the decision. Mr. CREEVEY said, the Attorney-General had declined taking any part against him in the Courts, evidently reserving himself for an attack in that ]louse—(Hear, hear)—and being deficient in argument, he had reverted to his old trade of examination, and questioned him like a witness at the Old Bailey. •—(if laugh.)—Any one entering that House during .he speech of the Learned Gentleman, would have taken him (Mr. Creevey) not for a Member defending a proposition, but for the murderer of Mr. and Mrs. Bonar.—(Hear, hear.)—The Hon. Gentleman then shortly replied to the various speakers, and said 14, s:_w in the proceedings the beginning of a system cutting off all connection between Members and !:;eir Constituents ; he , only wished. to have his prot osition on the Journals of the House ; he would not pres; the division ; and the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had admitted the words used by the Judge in .lel;v,:ring the sentence. The