The Sun. — 1837-07-15 (London, England)

STATE OF IRELAND. ar of The Ear: of RODEN, adl calm-, thereturns eter h constabul try of Dublin, of the number and character the outrages whici: had been committed in Ireland' in the year ending in June, 1536, which had been laid on their Lordships' table by the Noble Earl at the head of the vernment of that country, entered into an examination of. the details, to show that thq. number of outrages had inerecsed, or at least that no improvement had taken place in that iTspeet within the last year. Minor outrages might have dinc;nis;:ed; but more important outrages, such as horntnicide and the robbery of arms, had greatly increased. He requested the goble Earl would favour their Lordships would some explanadot7 en that point. The Earl of mULGUA.YE said be had lain the returns adverted to by the Noble Earl on their Lordships table, because he had quoted part of them from memory on the preceding day. He entirely denied the inferences which had been drawn from them by the Noble Earl ; and maintained that they proved that outrages in Ireland had greatly diminished in the last year. The Noblp Earl had stated that  .------------------ . the smaller offences had diminished, but that the larger ones had greatly increased, and had quoted the number of murders as a proof of that assertion. Now, the fact. was that all homicides were so termed ; but when they came to he investigated it turned out that most of them were committed under circumstances of iinmediate provocation, and were therefore only manslaughter. A great portion of the crimes committed in Ireland arose from di-etrese ; and he had the satisfaction to ass ureatly theidir Lordships that the distress in that country was gre • minished. There never also had been a prospect of a better harvest, and that would afford additional enconrage, ment to labour. He held a diminution of moral offences to be the best test of the increasing tranquillity of any country ; and he would confidently appeal to the approaching assizes in Ireland for proofs of his 'assertion, that the returns which had been adverted to exhihited a vast diminution of crime. There was an utter abienee of those insurrectionary offences witich were so common a few years go. The people began to feel that equal protection, and that just participation in the benefits of the British Constitution, which it had been the object of the Bill that had been brought in by a Noble Duke, whom he did not then see in his place, to procure them. Temporary circumstances (he did not wish to throw blame on any one) might for a time have retarded that consummation ; but he was convinced that on the foundation of that Bill an improvement was taking place in the character of the people of Ireieed, and in their condition, from which he honestly be, lieved filet most advantageous results would eventually menifest therneelves—(Hear, hear.) 'flee Mar Vis of wF,sTmEAT II was unable to concur !ri the views an,l opinions of the 'eagle Earl. He con-1 with his Noble Friend near hiM, t.:;et the returns exhibits •'a increase if crime—at least crimes or magjtude. The Earl ,:s.O GLENIIALL was proceeding to addrete the House, when Lord HOL L A Nil) interrupted the Noble Lord, and ouse, it was a said, there being no quCe.!;en before L'.'" -louse, most irregular conversatlon, which could only :cad to a waste of time. -It was alloveed as a matter of courtesy to one Member or that House to put a question to any other Noble Lord who might be in he.: place ; but to have a dissertation on all the different item; b.r returns laid on the table. was wholly contrary to the rules elf their proceedings, and such irregularity tended to lower the ,c'haracter and dignity of that House.—(Hear, hear.) The Earl of GLENGALL had no wish to trespass on their Lordships' attention. Lord BROUGHAM presented petitions from Annan, in Scptland, for an alteration in the marriage laws ; from the police of Paisley, for municipal corporation reform ; also two petitions for the abolition of Church-rates ; and one from the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals; and other persons desirous of attaining the same object, which, the Noble Lord said, was very numerously and most respectably signed. The Noble Lord also moved for returns of the amount of saving which had taken place in the Masters' and Registrars' Offices since the year 1831. Viscount DUNCAN NON presented a variety of petitions in favour of the Church-rates Bill, and on other subjects, from Reading, Hammersmith, several London parishes, and other places. The Central Criminal Court Bill was read a third time, and passed. Their Lordships then adjourned.