The Sun. — 1839-02-07 (London, England)

JOHN RUSSELL—I said no such thing. Colonel SIBTIIORP hoped that some means would bo taken to submit to the consideration of the House a return of all the expenses connected with the unfortunate commission of Lord Durham. He thought that the outfit of Lord Durham and his suite, and all the other things connected with that measure, should be laid before the House, the public ought to be satisfied with respect to all the expenses that had been incurred. They were enormous.—(A laugh.) A measure more unsatisfactory, or a more disgraceful, a more subtle or crafty appointment had never taken place than that of the Noble Earl.—(Cheers and laughter.) He had ascertained from certain quarters that there was a disposition on the part of her Majesty's Government (and no man had a worse opinion of them than himself) to withhold that return of what might be called miscellaneous estimates.—( Hear, hear.) The Honourable and Learned Member for Dublin cheered him he did not know whether that Hon. Gentleman's acute mind could understand the matter, but not a cork had been drawn which should not be fairly laid before the House. (Great laughter.) Ho believed that advances, as well as promises, had been made on the the faith of that commission. Oh, it was a disgraceful, a shocking proceeding. (Roars of laughter.) It was one of the last commissions which he would have accompanied—he hoped the outlay for fur cloaki would also be stated, as it would form a very large item in the expenses. It was the duty of her Majesty's Government to lay all these papers before the House, otherwise it would be totally impossible for them to give a satisfactory vote on this measure. With regard to the Speech from the Throne, no man was more loyal than himself ; bat he had always understood those Speeches to be a sort of cover for the faults of Ministers, and to hold out promises, none of which had ever yet been performed. lie now gave notice that he would submit a motion on the subject on the 19th inst., and that he would take the sense of the House upon it.  The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, Lord Durham had received no salary during the time he was abroad, that the expenses of his mission had been paid in the same manner and subject to the same regulations as all other special missions, and the same information would be given to the House with regard to the expenses on this mission as were given on all other similar occasions. The peculiar feeling of the Honurable Gentleman with regard to commissions led him into this line of argument, whenever the obnoxious word was mentioned; but he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) did not imagine that the House would suffer its judgment to be swayed even by references to the supposed cases so ingeniously put by the Honourable Gentleman, of fur cloaks, corks, and champagne, and whenever the question was brought before the House, it would be discussed upon principles totally opposite to those laid down by the Honourable Gentleman. Colonel PE RCE VAL wished to draw the attention of the Noble Lord, the Secretary for Ireland, to the assertion made by the Hon. and Learned Member for Dublin, which tended to cast a doubt on the veracity of a near relative of his (Colonel Perceval's). The lion. and Learned Member had cast an imputation on the Rev. Mr. Perceval, by insinuating a doubt as to his having been fired. The Noble Lord ought to have given immediate and distinct denial to this assertion, as from the documents laid before him in his official capacity and the rewards offered for the apprehension of the perpetrator of this outrage, l►e (the Noble Lord) must have been satisfied on this subject. If the Hon. and Learned Member for Dublin doubts that that Rev. Gentleman, my relative, has been fired at, he is the only individual in all Ireland who entertains a doubt en the subject. It is undoubtedly also a fact, as asserted by his friend—(the Hon. and Learned Member for the University of Dublin)—that previously to the perpetration of this outrage, the people of the chapel put off their coats to prevent their being recognized. He could not but express his surprise that her Majesty had not ad% erred in her speech to the state in which her loyal subjects in Ireland were placed, by the combinations and excitements to outrage and murder—combinations and excitements deriving their origin from those to whom her Majesty's Government were indebted for the support of this House. Lord