The Express. — 1853-08-02 (London, England)

LOWE—That would be too complicated. He objected to the proposition of Mr. Frewen because it would omit the whole of Chelsea and it would also include country districts. Mr. BUTT supported Mr. Frewen's plan, and suggested that Chelsea might be inserted oa the third reading. Sir J. SHELLEY trusted that at all events the boundary would be accurately defined. (Hear.) Mr. V. SCULLY objected to the clause on back fares. The just and obvious plan would be to pay the cabman. when discharged beyond the circle, his fare to the nearest place within the circumference. (Hear.) After some discussion, the house divided— For the amendment Against it The amendment was therefore lost. Mr. LOWE moved that the words "Charing-crow" be struck out, with a view to insert " Temple-bar.'  site case—of difficulty with the Ultramontane party It has been from the beginning, by all clear-sighted men, that the difficulty must arise, sooner or later; and probably when a MURRAY should be succeeded by a dignitary of a different temper, and different views of national good. The time has come. Is the patience which availed so well before—is the faith which has already removed mountains—to fail now ? Cannot they who worked in concert with moderate Catholics in the face of a violent Protestant clergy work on with moderate Catholics still, in the face of a violent Catholic clergy? If the scheme were new, we might doubt the possibility ; but the conductors of the Irish National Schools have themselves taught us to expect everything from them. It is in the strength of their own counsel that we speak. It is their own example which exhibits to us what may be done. It is to their own praise that we ask from them what they can never more declare to be woreasonable. When they first threw open their doors 107,000 children came in. That was in 1833. That was when Ireland was overcrowded, hungering, and exasperated; when the great tithe conflict was going on; and when it came out in Parliament, in an incidental sort of way, that the subdivision of land was so excessive that in one parish in Carlow there were 222 tithe defaulters whose liability was for a farthing each. The highest aggregate tithe charge due from individuals was 2d. each, and this they were as unable to pay as if it had been 2/. A very large proportion of the defaulters owed sums so much less than a farthing that they were grouped together, in order to make out a bill against them ; and yet they could not pay. What the condition of rural Ireland was at that time this is enough to show. And, as for social Ireland, the murders of clergy, proctors, and police during that very year are so far from being forgotten that there is no need to say more about them. The children seemed doomed to mere savagery. Nobody taught them to till the ground, or to do anything to mend their condition ; and, but for the National Schools, there seemed no refuge— unless it were in the fatal promises of 01:0NNELL, who must have been more superhuman than his humblest followers believed him if he could have done any substantial good. There were nearly 800 schools opened, and 107,000 children came in. From that date till the famine season—till 1847—the number, both of schools and of scholars, went on steadily increasing. Through that Agreed to. The bill was then ordered to be read a third time. season, the number of schools went on increasing, The Dublin Carriage Bill, as %mended, was considered, but not of scholars. Tens of thousands of Irish chiland ordered to be read a third time. dren were dead, or orphaned. dispersed, and lost, The Smoke Nuisance Abatement (Metropolis) Bill and the Ecclesiastical Leasing Act Amendment Bill were read during that awful struggle ; yet, at the lowest and a second time. dreariest time, there were above 402,000 in the The resolutions on the South Sea Annuities Dissentients were reported and agreed so. schools. After the famine and fever, came the emiMISSIONARY