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However, what does this imply for those beneficiaries who already submitted their applications, paid large sums of money to the consultant companies that had not informed them of having to decide later on whether they would use the IPARD funds or sign a contract with HROTE.
Međutim, što sa korisnicima koji su se već prijavili, platili velika sredstva konzultantskim tvrtkama koje nisu znale reći korisnicima da će se morati kasnije odlučiti da li će uzeti sredstva iz IPARD-a ili imati ugovor s HROTE-om.
Mr. L. Čuljak:We are familiar with the issue and are working hard with the aim of solving the issue in cooperation with the Ministry of Economy.
g.L.Čuljak:Upoznati smo s tom problematikom i intenzivno radimo na rješavanju u dogovoru s Ministarstvom gospodarstva.
Mr. S. Bukovac:
g.S.Bukovac:
Regarding Mr Lebar's words, the information has also reached the Croatian Chamber of Economy.
Nastavno na izlaganje g. Lebara, informacija je došla i do HGK.
A notification has been published on the web sites of the Ministry of Economy which reads that a substantially lower price shall be paid to those beneficiaries who receive IPARD funds, which means that even those projects that have been approved by banks may not be carried out.
Na stranicama Ministarstva gospodarstva stoji obavijest da korisnicima koji ostvare sredstva iz IPARD-a biti će plaćena cijena koja je znatno niža čime se dovodi u pitanje i one projekte koji su odobreni od banaka.
For such prices established by the Ministry of Economy, the period of payment amounts to 7,8 10 to 20 years.
Vrijeme otplate uz ovakve cijene predložene od strane Ministarstva gospodarstva penje se na 7,8,10 - 20 godina.
This information needs to be made available to the beneficiaries and the banks are familiar with this fact.
Potrebno je tu činjenicu korisnicima prenijeti i banke su s tim upoznate.
As regards the proposed 5th amendments and the involvement of mechanisation, it was concluded at the last meeting of the Monitoring Committee that 20% of the total of available funds for Measure 101 shall be allocated exclusively for the procurement of tractors, which would amount to HRK 70 - 80 million of financial support for tractors, not including other types of mechanisation.
Što se tiče predloženih petih izmjena i uključivanjem mehanizacije zaključak sa posljednjeg Odbora za praćenje je bio da će 20 % ukupno raspoloživih sredstava za Mjeru 101 biti upućeno isključivo na financiranje nabave traktora što bi iznosilo 70 - 80 milijuna kuna potpore usmjereno na traktore što ne uključuje ostalu mehanizaciju.
According to the analysis conducted by the Paying Agency, HRK 175 million from Measure 101 has been approved, and approximately HRK 100 million is being considered, which makes around HRK 250 - 260 million after the tender analysis.
Prema analizi Agencije za plaćanja 175 milijuna kuna iz Mjere 101 je odobreno, još je u obradi oko 100 milijuna kuna što je negdje 250 - 260 milijuna kuna nakon obrade natječaja.
We have found ourselves in a situation that we only have HRK 70 million at our disposal taking decommitment into account.
Javlja se situacija da na Mjeri 101 uzimajući u obzir decommitment imamo na raspolaganju samo 70 milijuna kuna.
Taking into account that the average value of the requested support for Measure 101 amounts to HRK 76 million, that the tenders were launched every 2-3 months and that no tender has been launched for the last 7 months and we can therefore expect requests in the amount of HRK 100 million that do not relate to mechanisation, it is very probable that we do not have sufficient funds at our disposal in Measure 101. For the first time, we may expect the ranking of applications already specified in the Ordinance.
Ako uzmemo u obzir da prosječna vrijednost zahtijevane potpore za Mjeru 101 iznosi 76 milijuna kuna, da su ti natječaji objavljivani svaka 2-3 mjeseca i nismo imali natječaj 7 mjeseci te možemo očekivati zahtjeve u vrijednosti oko 100 milijuna kuna koji se ne odnose na mehanizaciju vrlo je moguće da nemamo dovoljno sredstava na Mjeri 101. Po prvi put će se možda provesti rangiranje prijava koje i sada postoji u pravilniku.
I suggest we analyse the amount of available funds with respect to decommitment, contact the consultants to determine the exact programmes being planned and the flexibility in the reallocation of funds between the axes and measures.
Predlažem da se analizira kolika su raspoloživa sredstva u odnosu na decommitment, kontaktirati konzultante da se vidi koji su to projekti u planu te kolika je fleksibilnost u realokaciji sredstava između osi i mjera.
The beneficiaries need to be informed of the amount of funds at our disposal, whether an unlimited tender will be launched or whether financial limits will be determined in the allocation of funds for mechanisation.
Korisnike je potrebno informirati o tome koliko imamo raspoloživih sredstava, da li ćemo imati natječaj bez ograničenja ili će biti određeni financijski limiti u dodjeli sredstava za mehanizaciju.
Mr. D. Njirić:
g.D.Njirić:
Regarding mechanisation, it is known that there is a considerable number of neglected agricultural areas as a result of devastation by war.
Vezano uz mehanizaciju poznato je da RH ima dosta zapuštenih poljoprivrednih površina pogođenih ratnim stradanjima.
The possibility of the use of the EU funds for the procurement of machines used for the clearance of areas in order to clear the area of shrubs and weeds, which would reduce the high costs of revitalisation of the neglected agricultural areas and the areas where agricultural crops are grown would thus be extended.
Potrebno je razmotriti mogućnost da se sredstva EU fondova koriste za nabavu strojeva za malčiranje površina radi uklanjanja grmlja i korova i time bi se smanjili visoki troškovi revitaliziranja zapuštenih poljoprivrednih površina i povećale bi se površine pod poljoprivrednim kulturama.
Mrs. J. Kranjčević:What is the difference between the Rural Development Network and the Croatian Network for Rural Development as an association?
gđa.J.Kranjčević:Koja je razlika između Mreže za ruralni razvoj i Hrvatske mreže za ruralni razvoj kao udruge?
Mr. L. Čuljak:The Rural Development Network is a national network that needs to be established by member countries and candidate countries, whereas the Croatian Network for Rural Development is a civil society association.
g.L.Čuljak:Mreža za ruralni razvoj je nacionalna koja je obveza države članica i država kandidatkinja, dok je Hrvatska mreža za ruralni razvoj civilna udruga.
Mrs A. Nowak:
gđa.A.Nowak:
The answer to Mr. Kušec's question.I confirm that everything is acceptable in agriculture with the exception of combines in the cereals sector and in oil mills.
Odgovor na pitanje g. Kušeca. Potvrđujem da je sve prihvatljivo u poljoprivrednoj mehanizaciji osim kombajna u sektoru žitarica i uljarica.
The main reason why they have not been approved by the EC is because they are very expensive machines and such investment is not the main objective of the IPARD Programme.
Razlog tome što EK nije prihvatila je prvenstveno što su to vrlo skupi strojevi i takvo ulaganje nije glavni cilj IPARD programa.
The Programme's objective is to meet the EU standards, while the procurement of combines is not within the scope of meeting these standards, it is not related to acquis communautaire and the overall process of joining the EU.
Cilj programa je dostizanje EU standarda te nabava kombajna nije postizanje EU standarda, nije povezana uz acquis communautaire i cijeli proces pridruživanja EU.
As it has been mentioned by Mr. Bukovac, there is a risk of not having sufficient funds at our disposal for all payments.
Kako je g. Bukovac spomenuo postoji rizik da nećemo imati dovoljno novaca za sve isplate.
The value of a single combine can be more efficiently spent on a range of smaller projects.
Vrijednost jednog kombajna se može učinkovitije iskoristiti na veći broj manjih projekata.
From the economic point of view, the combine owners need to own big farms, and such beneficiaries are not the beneficiaries foreseen for the IPARD Programme.
S ekonomskog gledišta vlasnici kombajna trebaju imati velike farme, a veliki korisnici nisu ciljani korisnici IPARD programa.
As regards the allocation of funds under the Programme and the monitoring tables, there is a financial limit that has been strictly determined that is to be observed.
Što se tiče alokacije sredstava u programu i u monitoring tablicama postoje određeni dogovoreni financijski limit i treba ga poštivati.
The Commission will be flexible and we are to wait for the proposal of the Republic of Croatia for the pre-allocation of funds and we will have a debate on the issue.
Komisija će biti fleksibilna i pričekati ćemo prijedlog RH za prealokaciju sredstava i imat ćemo raspravu na tu temu.
Mr S. Kušec:Is it possible to procure certain parts of the combine such as adapters in the context of mechanisation?
g.S.Kušec:Da li se pod mehanizacijom mogu nabaviti određeni dijelovi kombajna npr. adapteri?
It is possible to procure them and it is an acceptable investment.
Mogu se nabaviti i to je prihvatljivo ulaganje.
We are aware of the fact that we may not have sufficient funds for the applications.
Svjesni smo činjenice da možda nećemo imati sredstava za prijave.
The criterion for the allocation of funds for the procurement of mechanisation shall be established prior to the approval of the projects.
Kriterij za dodjelu sredstava za nabavu mehanizacije će biti i prije nego se odobre projekti.
The Ministry and the Paying Agency are familiar with all that has been indicated by Mr. Bukovac in his presentation.
Sve što je kolega Bukovac iznio u svom izlaganju poznato je i Ministarstvu i Agenciji za plaćanje.
Analyses and preparations have been carried out, the only consequence being that we may not have sufficient funds due to a great interest in investing into mechanisation.
Napravljene su analize i pripreme, jedino što se može dogoditi je nedostatak sredstava zbog velikog interesa za ulaganja u mehanizaciju.
This constitutes yet another form of preparation for the upcoming programming period with the possibility of the procurement of mechanisation.
To je također jedna priprema za nadolazeće programsko razdoblje gdje će također biti mogućnost nabave mehanizacije.
We are planning to call a meeting in December with all consultants in order to prepare for the next tender.
Tijekom prosinca planiramo sazvati sastanak sa svim konzultantima kako bi se pripremili za sljedeći natječaj.
Mrs. S. Svatoš:
gđa. S. Svatoš:
I agree with Mr. Čuljak and Mr. Bukovac's presentations.The paying Agency was aware from the beginning of the fact that the ranking needs to be introduced due to the introduction of mechanisation.
Slažem se s izlaganjem g.Čuljka i g.Bukovca. Agencija za plaćanja je već od početka bila svjesna da zbog uvođenja mehanizacije mora biti uvedeno i rangiranje.
The beneficiaries need to be made familiar with the fact that all applications are to be analysed prior to reaching a decision on the allocation of funds.
Korisnici moraju biti upoznati s tim da će sve prijave morati biti obrađene prije odluke o dodijeli sredstava.
Considering the fact that the current situation is quite the opposite, there will be a ranking of applications as a result of the reduced funds.
Obzirom da je situacija sad obrnuta, jer će biti manje sredstava doći će do rangiranja prijava.
The ranking needs to be based on clear criteria so that everyone is able to evaluate whether they are eligible or not, so as to avoid the basic costs needed for the application.
Rangiranje se mora temeljiti na jasnim kriterijima da svi mogu procijeniti da li mogu proći ili ne da ne ulaze u osnovne troškove za prijavu.
In order to obtain the funds for tractors, an applicant needs to comply with the criteria of the sector concerned, e.g. if a person is buying tractors in the dairy sector, they must meet the criteria for the dairy sector first.
Da bi netko dobio sredstva za traktore mora udovoljiti i kriterijima određenog sektora, npr. ako netko kupuje traktore u sektoru mljekarstva mora na početku ispuniti kriterije sektora mljekarstva.
The Agricultural Consultation Service will be involved in the drawing up of the additional criteria on which the ranking is to be based.
U izradu dodatnih kriterija na temelju kojih ćemo izvršiti rangiranje uključiti će se i Poljoprivredno - savjetodavna služba.
The criteria for the ranking in all sectors under Measure 101 exist and they are not related to mechanisation, and if the ranking is to be conducted solely for the purposes of mechanisation, specific amendments to the IPARD Programme will be necessary as it specifies the criteria for the ranking of applications and they are not related only to mechanisation.
Kriterij za rangiranje u svim sektorima u Mjeri 101 postoje i nisu vezani uz mehanizaciju, a ako će se provoditi rangiranje isključivo za mehanizaciju onda to zahtjeva i određene izmjene IPARD programa koji ima kriterije za rangiranje prijava i nisu vezani samo uz mehanizaciju.
The Croatian Chamber of Economy, which organizes educational programmes for its members, as well as all other parties concerned must make the beneficiaries familiar with the issue.
Hrvatska gospodarska komora koja provodi određene edukacije za svoje članice i svi ostali moraju korisnike s tim upoznati.
The other criterion is “first come - first serve” which may pose an additional problem for the Paying Agency due to the possibility of amending the documentation.
Drugi kriterij je „first come - first serve“ koji može Agenciji za plaćanja stvoriti dodatan problem zbog mogućnosti nadopune dokumentacije.
we are familiar with all these issues and we shall be ready for the tender.
Upoznati smo sasvim tim problemima i biti ćemo spremni za provedbu natječaja.
Will the first upcoming tender have financial limits?
Hoće li prvi sljedeći natječaj imati financijske limite?
What is the amount of funds that will be at our disposal or will there be a tender without any financial limits and will it be discussed with the EC regarding the applications submitted?
Koliko će sredstava biti na raspolaganju ili će biti raspisan natječaj bez financijskih limita i onda na temelju zaprimljenih prijava razgovarati s EK?
The EC is ready for a dialogue in the event of reallocation of funds.When we are familiar with the use of funds for 2012, we shall launch the process of reallocation of funds for the measures.
EK je spremna na razgovor ako dođe do realokacije sredstava kad vidimo iskorištenost sredstava za 2012 godinu onda ćemo pokrenuti postupak realokacije sredstava između mjera.
The tender shall not be launched on 15 February unless all the issues are solved and all the facts are known and if the beneficiaries and consultants are ready.
Natječaj se neće raspisati 15.2. ako ne budemo razriješili nepoznanice i dok korisnici i konzultanti ne budu spremni.
The foreseen date is only for the tender planning.
Predviđeni datum je samo plan raspisivanja natječaja.
Mrs. B. Marković:
gđa.B.Marković:
All of us who are members of the Monitoring Committee for the SAPARD and now the IPARD know well that it was in our interest to include mechanisation into the pre-accession fund.
Svi koji smo članovi Odbora za praćenje od SAPARD-a i sad IPARD-a znamo dobro da nam je bio interes da se mehanizacija uključi u predpristupni fond.
When it comes to this, we are all equally responsible.
Ovdje smo svi zajedno odgovorni.
We expect the answer of the Ministry of Agriculture explaining the reasons behind the issue.
Očekujemo odgovor od ministarstva gospodarstva zašto je došlo do tog problema.
Mr. T. Majdak:As regards the issues related to Measure 302 and the problem of the “feed-in” tariff and the assistance related to the IPARD Programme, the Ministry of Agriculture is intensively negotiating with the Ministry of Economy.
g. T. Majdak:Što se tiče pitanja vezano uz Mjeru 302 i problem „feed-in“ tarife i potpore vezano uz IPARD program, Ministarstvo poljoprivrede intenzivno pregovara sa Ministarstvom gospodarstva.
Other institutions were also included into this negotiating process.
U ovaj pregovarački proces su se uključile i druge institucije.
The Croatian Competition Agency (CCA) offered its explanation.
Agencija za zaštitu tržišnog natjecanja (AZTN) dala je svoje tumačenje.
It is about avoiding financing from different funds concerning investment support and the preferential price of the producers of electrical energy.
Radi se o izbjegavanju financiranja iz više izvora što se tiče investicijske potpore i povlaštene cijene proizvođača električne energije.
The representative of the CCA and the banking sector was also present at the meeting so that the manner of receiving subsidies by certain economic operators, in this case the IPARD Programme.
Na sastanku je bila i predstavnica HROTE-a i bankarskog sektora tako da se vidi na koji način se ostvaruje subvencije pojedinih proizvođačkih subjekata, u ovom slučaju IPRAD program.
The CCA makes sure that there is no double financing.
AZTN provjerava da ne bi bilo dvostrukog financiranja.
The Ordinance on the implementation of Measure 302 stipulates that an operator needs to be a privileged producer which does not imply determining the price of electrical energy.
Pravilnik o provedbi Mjere 302 propisuje da morate biti povlašteni proizvođač što sa sobom ne povlači i određivanje cijene električne energije.
On the basis of the application and in case all the criteria for obtaining support are met, the status of a privileged electrical energy producer needs to be obtained.
Temeljem prijave ukoliko se ostvare svi kriteriji za dobivanje potpore mora se ishoditi status povlaštenog proizvođača električne energije.
The Ministry of Economy and the CCA are negotiating the calculated amount, i.e. the manner of calculating the amount for which the price would be reduced and for which period so that every producer would be financed from the public assistance funds up to 100%.
Ministarstvo gospodarstva zajedno sa HROTE-om pregovara o izračunu tj.načinu kalkulacije za koji iznos bi se umanjila cijena i na koje razdoblje tako da bi svaki proizvođač bio financiran iz sredstava javne pomoći do 100%.
Mr. M. Leber:
g. M. Lebar:
It is a fact that in case of signing a contract with the CCA a feasibility study on environment protection the cost of which amounts to HRK 15,000.00 will not be necessary.However, if its application is submitted through the IPARD, a feasibility study will be necessary.
Činjenica je da ukoliko se potpisuje ugovor s HROTE -om ne treba elaborat zaštite okoliša koji košta 15.000 kuna, ako se prijavljuje preko IPARD-a elaborat treba.
Consultant companies which should be best informed should have warned the potential beneficiaries that, in case of signing a contract with the CCA, and submit their applications to the IPARD, they are not entitled to the preferential price.
Konzultantske tvrtke koje bi morale biti najinformiranije su trebale potencijalne korisnike upozoriti da ukoliko potpišu ugovor s HROTE-om, a prijavljuju se na IPARD povlaštena cijena za njih ne vrijedi.
A tender has been launched that is not cost-effective for anyone, and the beneficiaries who are already registered in the IPARD programme will lose considerable funds.
Raspisan je natječaj koji se nikome ne isplati, a korisnici koji su već prijavljeni na IPARD program izgubiti će znatna novčana sredstva.
Who can they turn to for help at the moment of their withdrawal from the IPARD since it causes financial damage for the people who were ready to invest and are not held responsible.
U trenutku odustajanja od IPARD-a kome da se obrate jer je to financijska šteta za ljude koji su bili spremni ulagati, a nisu odgovorni.
The Ministry of Economy, that is, our legislation does not allow double financing.
Ministarstvo gospodarstva odnosno naša legislativa ne dozvoljava dvostruko financiranje.
Each beneficiary may decide themselves whether they will submit their application to the IPARD or they will accept the preferential price.
Na svakom korisniku je da odluči hoće li ići preko IPARD-a ili preko povlaštene cijene.
Measure 302 not only involves investments into the renewable sources of energy but also a wider range of other investments.
Mjera 302 ne obuhvaća ulaganja samo u obnovljive izvore energije nego i širi spektar drugih ulaganja.
The Ministry of Agriculture has been introduced to this issue and meetings will be held with the aim of solving these issues.We hope they are solved in the best interest of end users, which is the main reason why the tender period has been prolonged.
Ministarstvo poljoprivrede je upoznato s tim problemom i dogovoreni su sastanci na kojima nastojimo riješiti te nejasnoće i nadamo se da ćemo ih riješiti u korist krajnjih korisnika te smo upravo zbog toga i produžili natječaj.
What is to be said to the beneficiaries?
Što reći korisnicima?
Should they apply for tender or not?
Da li da se prijave na natječaj ili ne?
The answer does not define the status of the beneficiary and if they apply for tender there are no guarantees that they will receive the funds if they need to make a decision.
Odgovor ne definira status korisnika i ako se prijave na natječaj ništa im ne garantira da će sredstva realizirati ako se moraju odlučiti.
All those who are interested in applying have studied all the criteria and conditions of the application for tender.
Svi koji se žele prijaviti proučili su sve kriterije i uvjete prijave na natječaj.
It is up to each beneficiary to decide on their own if they will apply for the IPARD or they will sign a contract with the CCA.
Na svakom korisniku je da sam odluči želi li ići preko IPARD-a ili sklopiti ugovor s HROTE-om.
In case they apply and meet the stipulated criteria, they will certainly receive the IPARD funds.
Ukoliko se jave i udovolje propisane kriterije za njih su sredstva IPARD-a sigurna.
We are looking for such a solution which will make this part of the contact obligation towards the CCA in the best interest of the beneficiary.
Tražimo rješenje da i ovaj dio ugovorne obveze prema HROTE-u bude u korist korisnika.
Mr. D. Pašalić:
g.D.Pašalić:
Dairy producers have found themselves in the same situation and I support Mr. Lebar when it comes to making a decision as soon as possible so that people may prepare and that to make it possible for them to apply for tender.
Proizvođači mlijeka su u istoj situaciji i podržavam g.Lebara da se što prije donese neka odluka da se ljudi pripreme i da im se omogući da se prijave na natječaj.
Negotiations are underway, which is the reason why we have prolonged the tender by the end of the year, which is long enough for them to apply for tender.
U tijeku su dogovori te smo zbog toga produžili natječaj do kraja godine i taj period će biti dovoljan da se prijave na natječaj.
Mr. D.Pašalić:
g.D.Pašalić:
Does this exclude the CCA loan?
Da li to isključuje HBOR kredit?
we have no authority over banks.
Mi nemamo nadležnost nad bankama.
Mr. M. Jurašin:
g.M.Jurašin:
We have been introduced with the issue and it is in our interest to offer information to the beneficiaries.
Upoznati smo s tom problematikom i u interesu nam je da damo korisnicima informacije.
Our programme includes funding.
Naš program je i dalje da financiramo.
We also tolerate unacceptable expenditures if the applicants decide to apply for the IPARD and if they meet all the criteria and the payment of funds.
Prihvaćamo i neprihvatljive izdatke ukoliko se odluče za IPARD i udovolje svim uvjetima i isplatu sredstava.
26 presentations were made i.e. more than before considering the report submitted to the members in writing.
Održano je 26 prezentacija tj. sada nešto više obzirom na dostavljeno izvješće članovima u pisanim materijalima.
The majority of the presentations related to Measure 202 for which accreditation or tender will soon be launched.
Većina prezentacija se odnosila na Mjeru 202 za koju nam akreditacija, odnosno natječaj uskoro kreće.
Measure 501 is still not accredited so that all the promotion activities include seminars and training courses.
Još uvijek nemamo akreditiranu Mjeru 501 tako da su sve aktivnosti promidžbe vezane uz seminare i treninge.
As regards printed materials, we have leaflets that have been printed earlier at our disposal.
Što se tiče tiskanih materijala na raspolaganju nam je određena količina ranije tiskanih letaka.