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Vi har ventet på dette direktiv i flere år og hele tiden krævet den bindende barrierefri konstruktion.
Koch (PPE). - (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, when we speak today about a new bus directive which contains special regulations for the carriage of passengers with reduced mobility, we should bear in mind, particularly in view of the recent debate about increasing road safety - after all, 1.6 million people suffer often permanent injuries in accidents - that we could in fact ourselves be one of them tomorrow.
Vi vil ikke længere lade os holde hen.
We too would then have to cope with living as a disabled person.
Hvor vigtige disse aspekter end er, så er den væsentligste grund til, at Europas borgere vil anbefale Murphys be tænkning den vægt, den med rette tillægger sikkerhed og adgangsmuligheder for alle.
Rübig (PPE). - (DE) Mr President, many years ago the European Community introduced pan-European stand ards for tractor seats.
På- og afstigning af busser er dér, hvor flest ulykker sker, især for dem, der er sårbare.
We are still waiting for a solution for the electric plug.
Ud over henstillinger om lavtgulvsbusser, som praktisk talt knæler ned ved fortovskanten for at give bedre ad gangsforhold, er der mange andre sikkerhedsforhold in deholdt i denne betænkning.
We have gathered a great deal of experience in the field of standardization, and we have also been punished very severely for a great deal of our stand ardization, for example the angle of curvature of bananas.
I uforpligtende erklæringer kræves igen og igen, at de handicappede skal integreres.
At present there are about 37 million disabled people living in the European Union.
På grund af deres begrænsede mobilitet er det vigtigt for dem at være mobile, at kunne leve et uafhængigt liv.
I therefore feel that the broad interpretation of the concept 'persons with re duced mobility' is legitimate and should be welcomed.
Lad mig endnu en gang understrege, at dette direktiv kun vil komme til at gælde for nye busser og vil ikke true dobbeltdækkerbusser eller Routemaster-busser.
Today we are talking about standardization in the case of vehicles for the carriage of passengers. This is a very important area.
Parallelt med de handicappede findes der ca. 100 millioner ældre mennesker i EU, og dette antal - det ved vi fra demografiske statistikker - vil endog stige.
To that extent, I support the social aim of the directive. It deals with the right aspect, namely that of safety, but in respect of certain detailed solutions goes much too far in its regulation.
Netop ældre mennesker er i særlig grad henvist til offentlige transport midler.
We must not absolve companies from their own responsibilities to seek the best solutions.
Det anslås, at ca. 50 % af disse mennesker ikke har egen bil til rådighed.
Such solutions could be of a technical, but also of a logistical na ture.
De skal alle have mulighed for nem adgang til offentlige transportmidler.
Bus manufacturers already demonstrate in fact their great capability in respect of safety.
Det betyder, at de skånes for den isolation, der ellers truer dem.
I myself have proposed in committee that the definition of disabled should be made more specific and that it should be extended.
Men også ud fra økonomiske synspunkter er det fornuftigt at investere de ekstra udgifter, der vil gøre de offentlige trans portmidler barrierefri.
We are in favour of the use of boarding aids even for Class II vehicles, appropriate forms of handrails, entrances, luggage racks and special destination displays, in order to make the use of buses both possible and practical for disabled persons.
Den påstand, at det er for dyrt, er simpelthen forkert.
Our concerns lie in a different direction, however.
Det drejer sig efter de seneste bereg
From today we are no longer regulating just tractor seats.
er blevet hilst meget velkommen af brugerne. Murphybetænkningen er fremragende og baner vej for en bedre og sikrere offentlig transport i fremtiden.
Committee for Standardization, business and, in terms of subsidiarity, even with local authorities, should not be brought together by us under the umbrella of the EU Commission.
Parlamentet gør klogt i at give den en ypperlig og rungende støtte i mor gen, og jeg har tillid til, at det vil gøre det.
I therefore consider demands for 4 metre ramps at the entrance and exit of buses to be completely ill-considered.
Som jeg sagde tidligere, er jeg amatør med hensyn til så danne tekniske ting, dette var bare nogle randbemærkninger.
Political demands and objectives which call upon both manufacturers and operators of buses alike to seek, in equal measure, innovative solutions, seem to me to be more suitable for doing something for the disadvantaged than rigid European standards which apply from Finland to Sicily.
Jeg vil vende tilbage til mit udgangspunkt, som er, at jeg synes, at Murphy på baggrund af det svære materiale har gjort et særdeles godt stykke arbejde.
Although the problems of disabled people across the European Union are comparable, the Member States must take into account climatic, territorial, traditional and other specific conditions in their efforts to pro cure a real place in their midst for disabled people.
Det er jo et utrolig kompliceret direktiv, som han udgår fra, men han har tydeligvis mestret det ned i den mindste detalje.
Here we may quote as an example the derogation provided for by the Com mission for the special situation in the United Kingdom and Ireland.
Jeg sætter også pris på ordførerens tydelige hensigt med æn dringsforslagene, som jo er at gøre det lettere for bevægelseshæmmede mennesker at stige på offentlige trans portmidler.
Anyone would probably concede that a doubledeck bus is not exactly the safest kind of bus, and it is clear that this type of bus can only be accessed with great difficulty by disabled persons.
Howitt (PSE). - (EN) Hr. formand, det er nu to år, siden vi her i Parlamentet vedtog elevatordirektivet, der skabte præcedens om, at lovgivningen for Europas indre marked kunne og skulle bruges til at skabe adgangsmuligheder for handicappede.
Bangemann, Member of the Commission. - (DE) Mr President, I do not wish to make the same mistake as my friend Karel van Miert and I should therefore like to thank Mr Murphy very sincerely for his work, right at the start.
Denne præcedens fik derefter via aftaler en plads i Amsterdam-traktaten, i udkastet til Traktaten om Den Europæiske Union.
It has already been said during the discussion that this is a difficult report because it deals with a whole series of technical questions and an attempt had to be made to find a compromise in many respects.
I aften står vi over for vores næste prøve, når vi behandler rute- og turistbusdirektivet og ligeledes behandler et spørgsmål, der bliver ført flest kampagner om blandt Europas 35 millioner handicappede - retten til tilgængelige offentlige transportmidler. ler.
I should, therefore, like to concern myself particularly with the questions which were directed at the Commission and from which it can be seen that a number of demands are being made.
Jeg lykønsker Simon Murphy med denne betænkning og de ændringsforslag, han har fremsat.
It is evident from this that with all these problems, we are always moving in a direction which represents a compromise. We have in fact done so.
Der er tale om vigtige ændringsforslag, som alle i dette Parlament bør støtte.
We did not go as far as Mr Murphy's request, that we should, to a certain extent, recognise it as a type.
Ændringsforslagene sikrer, at definitionen af bevægelseshæmmethed ikke kun gælder for kørestolsbrugere, men at den gælder for alle handicappede, herunder blinde og døve, og som min kollega fru Schmidbauer har sagt, for gravide kvinder, folk med børn, folk med tunge indkøb, ældre og andre.
We therefore also provided for the possibility that other Member States might not permit this type of bus, which is approved in another Member State, in their sovereign territory, because they do not have this tradition.
Mange mennesker vil nyde godt af dette æn dringsforslag.
We would like to continue to regard this as a derogation.
Det er jo trods alt et utrolig kom pliceret direktiv med masser af figurer og formler, som er utrolig svære at forstå for andre end eksperter.
One proposal is to create the Single Market by means of a type approval system.
Jeg kan have uret, men lad mig blot som amatør på dette område pege på nogle punkter, som jeg er lidt forbavset over.
For this we need precise regulations, because only such precise regulations can lead to the approval of a type.
Det drejer sig f.eks. om æn dringsforslag 54 fra Murphy. Der tales der om, at teksten på busser, som angiver destinationen, skal være hvid eller gul på sort baggrund og mindst 12 cm høj.
Nothing can be allowed to remain unclear in such type approvals.
Det er muligt, at dette er den bedste læsbarhed netop nu, men det kan meget vel tænkes, at teknikken bliver udviklet i morgen, så det bedste for synshæmmede er en sort tekst på hvid baggrund.
With undertakings like this a certain complexity sometimes cannot be avoided.
Så spørger jeg mig, om det ikke ville være bedre at sige, at man skal bruge den bedste tilgængelige teknologi. nologi.
I am quite sure that our proposal is already being seized upon in the press as another example of over-zealous bureaucracy.
Selvom Kommissionen her i aften skulle modsætte sig en udvidelse af dette direktiv til også at gælde intercityruter, bør den på forhånd give os en klar forpligtelse til at gennemføre den undersøgelse, som den har igangsat.
We can, of course, overdo this sort of specialization and attention to detail and then still not achieve what we actually set out to do.
Jeg håber, at kommissæren vil svare direkte på dette punkt i aften.
A certain willingness to compromise is necessary here.
I det samme ændringsforslag siges også, at destinationen skal angives inde i og uden for bussen med en indspillet stemme, når bussen standser ved busstationer og så vide re.
What we cannot accept - and I want to say this here very clearly - are other technical proposals or an extension to other categories, as it is our opinion that what we have created here can hopefully go through in the Council.
Inde i bussen kan jeg forstå det, men skal destinationen virkelig også angives med en højttaler uden for bussen?
We are not quite sure about that; in other words, we are still talking amongst ourselves here.
Det tror jeg ville føre til en frygtelig støj i mange byer, hvor der er mange busser.
I fully under stand if Parliament says that at the moment, it should like to assess another position but does not wish to adopt this one.
Desuden siges det, at stemmen skal være indspillet.
Whether or not it is very wise to reject this proposal, I leave to the wisdom of this House, in which I have boundless trust, of course.
Så er det måske enklere, at chaufføren gør, som han gør i dag, det vil sige, han siger, at nu er vi kommet til Burträsk eller hvad det nu kan være.
If maybe the Commission's proposal, apart from the amendments which we can accept, is approved without too many more additions, we shall make even more progress.
Dette inde bærer, at chaufføren må gå ud og stå ved siden af kørestolen, når den løftes op. Så spørger jeg igen, om det er nød vendigt at indføre krav om et lydsignal, når dette sker. Et
Not only do we want to aim for the highest possible level of safety for vehicles in general, but we also want to guarantee that disabled people - however one wants to define this term, that is, persons whose mobility is reduced - can use these vehicles safely.
Jeg opfordrer Parlamentet til at støtte vores ændringsforslag om at mindske højden på det første trin til 24 cm eller sikre et indstigningshjælpemiddel.
If we now look at the amendments tabled, they can be roughly divided into three groups: firstly, there are the amendments which correct mistakes made by the Com mission or propose better technical regulations.
Det er de eneste standarder, der virkelig sikrer adgang for handicappede.
That is, as ever, very desirable and we are pleased that we can adopt
Når alt kommer til alt, er dette blot i overensstemmelse med resultaterne af den .undersøgelse af lavtgulvsbusser, som blev offentliggjort af Kommissionen selv så langt tilbage som i 1995.
On the aspect of safety we have also reached a compromise, as a difference must be made between buses which are used predominantly on short routes, where rapid boarding and alighting is necessary for the bus to make reasonable headway, and other buses.
Howitt mere præcist skal kundgøre vores idéer, som fremover kan bidrage til en regelret standardisering af dette område. de.
Bangemann uation is as you say, why are you asking for an exception to be made for these buses? Why can they not fall under the general rules?
Dette forslag er blevet forsinket i Bruxelles på grund af den lange kamp, der er foregået for at sikre, at alle nye busser i vores større og mindre byer vil give han dicappede deres fulde adgangsrettigheder fra år 2001.
very frequently, because of which accessibility is very much more to the forefront than with a bus which, for ex ample, travels long distances, is mainly fitted with seats and does not stop very often.
Det er en meget betydelig sejr, og en sejr som jeg indstiller til Parlamentet her i aften.
Boarding this kind of bus may well require more time.
Det elektriske stik venter stadig på en løsning.
President. - The debate is closed.
Der er for øjeblikket ca. 37 millioner handicappede i Den Europæiske Union.
The vote will take place tomorrow at 12.00 noon.
I dag taler vi om harmonisering af køretøjer til personbefordring.
We want, however, to examine this class too.
Jeg vil gerne her sige tak til ordføreren, hr. Murphy, for hans imponerende engagement og forståelse for de anførte detailløsninger.
I would ask you to understand that in our case a role was played by our efforts to avoid imposing financial burdens, arising from excessive demands on the operating compa nies, particularly those in the public sector.
Det Europæiske Folkepartis Gruppe støtter i lange passager det foreliggende resultat, navnlig dér, hvor der tages hensyn til bevægelseshæmmede.
We must re member that we are not usually dealing with private com panies here, but with towns or regions which have to use public means of finance and cannot therefore avoid cost pressures.
Vi går ind for, at der skal anvendes indstigningshjælpemidler også i køretøjer i klasse II, at håndstøtter, trin og bagagenet udformes brugervenligt og at der skal være særlige tavler, der angiver endestationen med henblik på at gøre det muligt og praktisk også for handicappede at benytte busser.
President - The next item is the report (A4-0102/98) by Mrs Lulling, on behalf of the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and Industrial Policy, on the pro posal for a European Parliament and Council Regulation (EC) amending
Derfor støtter jeg direktivets sociale mål. Det tager et rig tigt aspekt op, nemlig sikkerhedsaspektet, men går i sine bestemmelser om bestemte detailløsninger alt for vidt.
We assume that it is realistic to prescribe access for per sons with reduced mobility for all vehicles of Class I from the time the directive comes into force.
Sådanne løsninger kunne være af teknisk, men også af logistisk art. Busfabrikanter beviser jo allerede i dag deres store kapacitet, hvad angår sikkerheden.
Without standard ized regulations, there is an acute danger for the Single Market, as some Member States have already begun to put together their own regulations.
Den Europæiske Standardiseringsorganisations (CEN), erhvervslivets og i subsidiaritetens ånd endog kommunernes opgaver må ikke af os flyttes over til Kom missionens kompetenceområde.
Lulling (PPE), rapporteur. - (FR) Mr President, we all know here that statistics are somewhat unpopular, particularly in the eyes of those who have to supply the data.
Jeg anser således de krav, der vil have 4 m lange ramper ved bussernes ind- og udstigning, for helt uigennemtænkte.
In 1993, when the Single Market came into force and bor der controls were abolished, the consequence was the elimination of the corresponding VAT declarations and of the statistics whose reliability was assured by the customs departments.
Efter vores mening bliver vi imidlertid nødt til at skelne mellem politiske tiltag og tekniske standardiseringsspørgsmål. Sidstnævnte bør behandles i relevante eks pertforsamlinger som standardiseringsorganisationer -CEN f.eks. - det vil sige af de fagfolk, som konstruerer el ler benytter busser.
I do not know what Parliament will decide tomorrow, but we are in the first phase here and we should really do what we always do.
Derfor er vi også af den overbevisning, at nogle vigtige politiske punkter skal omtales.
We have to play this tune to the Council and hope for its applause.
Der burde også engang gennemføres et SLIM-initiativ for det te område, et initiativ, som koncentrerer sig om de væsentlige politiske aspekter.
I do hope, however, that we can then arrive at improvements during subsequent proceedings, which perhaps go more along your lines. In any case, it should not founder in the Commission.
Selvom de handicappede EU-borgeres problemer er sammenlignelige, skal med lemsstaterne have lov til at tage hensyn til klimatiske, ter ritoriale, traditionelle og andre specifikke betingelser i deres bestræbelser på at skaffe de handicappede en virke lig plads i deres midte.
The introduction of Intrastat gave rise to a consideration of the way in which the suppliers' task could be simplified, of how to reduce costs for those on whom the burden of statistical information falls, as the smaller the company, the higher the relative cost of the administrative burden.
Vi mener, at navnlig de forslag, der vedrører køretøjernes sikkerhed og handicappedes adgang til køretøjerne i bilag 7, som går videre end Kommissionens, er fornuftige.
Murphy (PSE), rapporteur. - Mr President, I thank the Commissioner for his comments and I note in particular his comments on doubledecker buses being less safe or less accessible.
Drøftelsen skal imidlertid først og fremmest finde sted dér, hvor den logisk hører hjemme, nemlig i et teknisk ud valg. Det er også grunden til, at Det Europæiske Folkepartis Gruppe i morgen vil foreslå henvisning til fornyet behandling i det kompetente udvalg.
If he has a couple of hours to spare he could come with me to Birmingham, which has the busiest route for buses and coaches anywhere in Europe, and join me on the only two low floor doubledecker buses ac tually in operation in Europe which would meet these standards and more.
Vi mener, at vi i et klart reduceret omfang, men til gengæld så meget desto
So if you have a couple of hours I will take you on a journey to the West Midlands.
Bangemann, medlem af Kommissionen. - (DE) Hr. for mand, jeg vil ikke begå den samme fejl som min ven, Karel van Miert, og derfor indleder jeg med at sige mange tak til hr. Murphy for hans arbejde.
Bangemann, Member of the Commission. - Of course I accept your invitation. My only point was that, if the sit
Det er allerede blevet sagt under drøftelsen, at dette er en vanskelig betænkning, fordi det er nødvendigt at komme ind på en hel række tekniske spørgsmål og at forsøge at indgå kompromiser i fle-
As regards reliability, it must unfortunately be said, five years on, that the operation of Intrastat is not satisfactory, in spite of the fact that the total annual cost for the 450 000 companies making declarations is estimated at ECU 500 million to which is added ECU 100 million for
Bangemann bustype er meget vanskelig tilgængelig for handicappede, er også klart.
Lulling tended for aircraft, or whether they are submersible, single-stage or multi-stage pumps, and so on.
Derfor vil jeg især beskæftige mig med de spørgsmål, der er blevet stillet til Kommissionen og hvor af det fremgår, at der kræves mere eller noget andet.
This lack of reliability is illustrated by what in technical jargon is known as 'mirror statistics', which comes from the high inconsistency of the results.
Derfor har vi også fastsat den mulighed, at andre medlemslande ikke kan give tilladelse til denne form for bus på deres territorium, selvom den er tilladt i en af medlemsstaterne, da der jo ikke er tradition for den i de andre medlemslande.
Our proposal therefore is to limit the burden of declaration by eliminating unnecessary data, such as the means of transport, and optional data, to limit the number of small and mediumsized companies required to supply detailed statistical data, and to simplify the use of the combined nomenclature, while preserving a single no menclature for intraCommunity trade and trade with third countries.
Først vil jeg gerne gøre opmærksom på, at der er to for skellige udgangspunkter for dette direktiv.
We also clearly accept the need to preserve the level of in formation on intraCommunity trade, and our action is satisfactory in the eyes of the Committee on Regional Policy.
Det ene for slag er at etablere et indre marked ved hjælp af en type godkendelsesprocedure.
We know that all this is not a true reform of the system.
Med henblik herpå har vi brug for nøjagtige bestemmelser, for kun sådanne nøjagtige bestemmelser kan føre til, at en type godkendes.
It is a first step, Mr President, a first package of measures to be implemented pending more radical simplification. fication.
Man er nødt til at rydde alle uklarheder af vejen forud for en så dan typegodkendelse.
We have before us, Mr President, two proposals which arise from the SLIM initiative.
I forbindel se med et sådant forehavende kan en vis komplicerethed ikke altid undgås. Jeg er helt sikker på, at allerede vores forslag i pressen igen opfattes som et eksempel på over drevet bureaukrati.
Furthermore, the Member States do not even seem to be ready to follow these proposals, which are less extensive in comparison to the SLIM results.
Hvis vi overtog alle ændringsforslag -jeg mener, der er 120 - ville vi i endnu højere grad udsætte os for den fare. På det punkt må jeg give nogle aftaler ne ret.
Martin Philippe-Armand (UPE). - (FR) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, for all of the companies and administrations in the Member States of the European Union, the entry into force of the single market has meant an up heaval for the administrative practices involving the trade in goods between Member States.
Man kan naturligvis også overdrive en sådan specialisering og detaljering og opnår så dermed ikke det, man egentlig ville.
VAT declarations and statistics, which were previously dealt with by customs services have been changed.
Her er en vis vilje til at indgå kompromiser nødvendig.
However, of course, the need for such information has not thereby disappeared.
Men dernæst vil vi også løse sikkerhedsproblemer.
I wanted to highlight these divergent, and even antagonistic interests of the various players.
Vi vil ikke kun have et så højt sikkerhedsniveau som muligt for køretøjet generelt, men vil endvidere sørge for, at også handicappede - hvorledes man nu vil definere dette be greb - altså personer med nedsat mobilitet, kan benytte det på en sikker måde. Det er målene.
In other words, there is, on the one hand, the small and mediumsized compa nies who want significant relief in terms of the burden of making declarations, and on the other, the users of the statistics who want detailed and high quality information on intraCommunity trade to be made available.
Vi har så yderligere to ændringsforslag, som vi delvis kan acceptere og to, vi kan acceptere ud fra meningen. Hvad vi ikke kan acceptere - og det vil jeg sige helt klart her -er andre tekniske forslag eller en udvidelse til andre grupper, for vi er af den mening, at det, vi her har udarbejdet - forhåbentlig - kan vedtages i Rådet.
However, things Being as they are, and after organizing in committee a hearing on these antagonists, I have pro posed amendments aimed at reconciling their interests, amendments which the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs accepted, Commissioner, as a block and on a unanimous basis.
Det er vi ikke helt sikre på, det vil sige, at vi her stadig taler i en lukket kreds.
In this report, Mrs Lulling points out that it is essential for the data to be reliable.