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Det har været en god debat, og den fokuserer hele tiden opmærksomheden på et meget vigtigt emne, der ligger Parlamentet meget på hjerte.
In the recitals of the regulation on the harmonization of visa policy the Council mainly justifies the negative list, which includes these two countries, on the basis of risks with regard to security and illegal immigration.
Den opfordrer til tolerance og harmoni. Den kommer på et særdeles godt tidspunkt, hvor vi overvejer ting, der vil blive behandlet ved næste regeringskonference. Der er flere talere, der har nævnt, at den vil komme i fokus dér.
I and my group take the view that these two problems in particular cannot be combated by a restrictive visa policy because neither illegal immigration nor organized crime can be controlled by means of visas.
Man kan ikke lade et sådant emne falde. Man må drøfte det og have det anerkendt som vigtigt.
Therefore, in my view it is not right to treat the population as a whole differently and impose compulsory visas.
Der var et stort antal spørgsmål, som de enkelte medlemmer har rejst, som bør overvejes alvorligt.
We cannot invite these countries into our European house while at the same time forbidding a few of them to enter all the rooms.
Jeg vil bare nævne et par stykker, som jeg særlig har lagt mærke til i dag.
In my view that conflicts with the constant affirmations about being a family that wants to build Europe together.
Med hensyn til indholdet af beslutningsforslaget, så er det dem i selve beslutningsforslaget, der er det vigtigste aspekt her.
We want equal treatment for countries with which we have association agreements, which also means Romania and Bulgaria.
Jeg har allerede tilkendegivet, at jeg er enig i punkt 1, 2, 5, 6 og 12 — det område, hvor medlemmerne anmoder om direktiver. Fru Van Lancker har især nævnt behovet for initiativer af denne art, og jeg er enig med hende.
That is why in our oral questions we ask the Council and the Commission why these countries — i.e. Bulgaria and Romania — are on this negative list, unlike the Visegrad countries, and whether the Council intends to remove them from this list.
Det vil helt afhænge af en udtrykkelig anti-diskriminatorisk bestemmelse i den revidere de traktat.
Furthermore, we would like an answer to the question of the criteria applied when compiling this list.
Vi må sætte fokus på dette spørgsmål, for vi vil fremlægge det til overvejelse i refleksionsgruppen.
Zimmermann (PSE). — (DE) Mr President, first I would like to respond to your statement that the vote is not to take place until tomorrow.
Vi frem lægger det også på en række andre måder.
I cannot understand that.
Det er meget opmuntrende at vide, at der er stor støtte i Parlamentet til en eksplicit henvisning i traktaten.
Even if some groups tabled incorrect amendments, that is no reason for the vote not to be taken till tomorrow.
Fru Eriksson sagde noget, som jeg syntes fortjente særlig opmærksomhed, da hun sagde, at racisme og fremmedhad i sidste instans drejer sig om, at det ene samfundsmedlem ser ned på det andet; at man ser ned på en medborger, fordi man finder denne anden mindreværdig.
Unfortunately, and here I am turning to my second cause of frustration, this oral question was not put on the agenda until today even though it was really on last month's agenda.
Er det ikke i realiteten det, det drejer sig om?
That would have been a better time, for the Council already took a decision on 25 and 26 September.
Vi møder alle i vort eget liv i alle vore forskellige samfund eksempler på dette, både lokalt og nationalt. Vi må udrydde det.
Nevertheless it is still important to discuss this oral question on the policy towards nationals of Central and Eastern European countries today.
Hr. Elliott sagde også noget særdeles fornuftigt, nemlig at der må gøres mere, både på europæisk og nationalt og lokalt niveau.
The European association agreements link the Central and Eastern European countries more closely with the European Union and the European market.
Det bør vi huske på i forbindelse med alt det, vi vil overveje i vor handlingsplan.
The agreements also have a political dimension in that they institutionalize the political
Uddannelse er et helt grundlæggende element, og naturligvis uddannelse og oplæring for administratorer og beslutningstagere, herunder lovgivningsmagten.
The regulation was adopted on the legal basis of Article 100c of the Treaty, which provides that the Council is to determine the third countries whose nationals must be in possession of a visa when crossing the external borders of the Member States.
Lovgivningsmagten i alle vore medlemsstater må have uddannelse, så den begriber, hvad der skal gøres, med en bredere forståelse af vigtigheden af det emne, vi drøfter.
The list of third countries annexed to the Commission proposal has been the subject of very detailed study in the Council, and thereafter certain amendments were made.
Hr. Elliott sagde også, at vi alle kan blive ofre for racistiske holdninger.
The criteria primarily taken into consideration in its drafting are listed in a new recital based in fact on the third amendment in the European Parliament's opinion.
På samme måde vil jeg sige, at vi også alle sammen kan være racistiske i det små.
It deals specifically with risks related to security and with illegal immigration.
Desværre synes der også at være en forøgelse af racismen i samfundet.
However, it must be stated that there
Derfor finder jeg det besynderligt, at der først skal foretages afstemning i morgen.
Westendorp is provision for that list to be amended in line with international trends.
Den udfordring, vi står over for nu, er at forstærke vore kollektive initiativer.
Perhaps this also happened relatively quickly because pursuant to Article 100c, as from 1996 there is the threat of the qualified majority procedure.
Denne velvilje kommer på et godt tidspunkt, før nogle meget vigtige møder, der skal afholdes i løbet af næste år.
Nevertheless, many questions still remain open in relation to the regulation before us here, which was the reason for these oral questions.
Jeg håber, at bekendtgørelsen af Det Europæiske År mod Racisme, som mange talere har glædet sig over, vil øge opmærksomheden på alle niveauer i samfundet, med det resultat, at når man først har nået en vis grad af opmærksom hed, så vil man få ægte vilje, der vil afspejle sig ikke bare i retorik, men i praktiske foranstaltninger til endeligt at befri Europa for racismens svøbe. Det er mit ønske.
I should therefore like to say, first, that the situation is not definitive, it may be amended and adopted by a qualified Council majority as from 1 January; and secondly that by means ofthat dialogue and the stabilizing measures which the European Union wishes to take with those countries the situation may, and we hope will, be adjusted on those two points, which are important for the European Union: security and illegal immigration.
Desværre, og dette angår min anden frustration, står denne mundtlige forespørgsel først på dagsordenen i dag, selv om den jo egentlig stod på dagsordenen allerede i sidste måned.
There can be no doubt that the visa requirement basically conflicts with the existence at the same time of association agreements between the third countries in question and the European Union.
Det tidspunkt havde været bedre, for Rådet traf allerede en beslutning den 25. og 26. september.
That is to say if a country is associated and in a sense already offered certain membership rights, it is of course a contradiction to counter this by saying: any national of that country who wants to travel to the Union needs a visa.
Alligevel er det fortsat vigtigt at behandle denne mundtlige forespørgsel om vor politik over for borgere fra Mellem- og Østeuropa i dag.
That is why I am convinced that this kind of visa requirement may only be introduced for citizens of the associated countries for reasons of particular gravity.
Jeg tror, at det stadig er muligt at foretage nogle ændringer på dette område.
The question arises whether such reasons of particular gravity exist in the exceptional cases referred to here — Romania and Bulgaria.
Ford (PSE). — (EN) Hr. kommissær, må jeg bede om at få et enkelt punkt opklaret?
The security aspect was raised, as was the aspect of possible illegal immigration.
De central- og østeuropæiske stater søger integration med Den Europæiske Union og bekræfter deres mål, den sociale markedsøkonomi, velstand og demokrati.
The basis for a negotiation was not questioned by Parliament when it discussed the Commission's proposal based on Article 100c of the Treaty establishing the European Community.
Flynn, medlem af Kommissionen. — (EN) Hr. formand Ja hvis vi kunne få den traktatændring, tror jeg, det ville være den bedste måde at gøre det på under den søjle for at give det betydning. Det vil jeg personlig foretrække.
But it is not clear to me from the statements we have heard so far from the President-in-Office of the Council and from the Commission in relation to at least one of those two countries why these criteria are supposed to have been fulfilled.
Med Europaaftalernes ikrafttræden er dette igen rykket et skridt nærmere. Men når disse stater vil realisere deres mål, må vi også støtte dem i deres bestræbelser på at bygge deres demokratier op.
I would like to refer to my own experience in the case of Bulgaria.
Jeg er medlem af Delegationen for Forbindelserne med Bulgarien og Rumænien, og til Deres orientering lytter nogle medlemmer af den bulgarske delegation til denne debat her i plenum.
If I am rightly informed, there are somewhat fewer than 30 000 Bulgarians in Germany, nor is there any discernible immigration pressure from that country.
De sidder deroppe i tilhørerlogen.
That is why I certainly think we should consider whether the visa requirement can be maintained in a case such as this.
Der er også dem, der kunne tænkes at se lidt anderledes på sagen, for der vil naturligvis fortsat finde drøftelser sted af muligheden for at bruge den tredje søjle, og hvad der kan gøres der.
Moreover, we should certainly also take account of the internal political situation in these countries when we take such decisions in the European Union.
Lad os endelig bruge, hvad vi kan, og gøre, hvad vi kan, under tredje søjle, men forholdet mellem tredje og første søjle er stadig ikke afklaret.
Bulgaria is a country that traditionally had very close ties with the Soviet Union, as it now has with the Russians.
Det er klart, at hvis får en traktatændring, så kan det endeligt afgøre sagen, og det ville være en god lejlighed til at prøve vor oprigtighed.
If we take wrong, not sufficiently wellfounded decisions, then in my view we run the risk that the trends towards turning way from Europe, which are already visible, will become more marked.
Formanden. — Jeg har modtaget et beslutningsforslag ('), fremsat i overensstemmelse med artikel 40 i forretningsordenen. nen.
I would not regard that as a good development, in the light also of the other foreign policy problems we currently face in relation to Eastern Europe.
Begge lande ønsker at opbygge en social markedsøkonomi og demokrati, men de forstår ikke, at deres borgere bliver behandlet anderledes end indbyggerne i de øvrige associerede lande.
These criteria were also weighed against the more general factor of international relations between the Member States and third countries.
De ønsker, at deres borgere får den samme behandling med hensyn til at drive handel, at besøge familien, at kunne rejse ind i Unionen i studieøjemed eller lignende.
During their negotiations on the proposal for the regulation, the Commission and the Member States were at all times particularly attentive to the Community's relations with Bulgaria and Romania.
Afstemningen finder sted i morgen kl. 10.00. Ændringen skyldes, at ændringsforslag til dette beslutningsforslag ved en fejl er blevet stillet til et andet beslutningsforslag, og man forsøger på denne måde at rette op på situationen.
Nevertheless, the latent risks which still exist with regard to illegal immigration and security led the Member States to consider their removal from the common list as being premature.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er forhandling om følgende mundtlige forespørgsler:
That is why I ask the Council and, as I said, the Commission — after all, at the beginning of next year it will be possible to decide more simply and rapidly by a qualified majority — whether they could perhaps reconsider in this concrete case and find a different solution to the present provisional one.
— B4-1087/95 af Zimmermann og Lehne for Udvalget om Borgerlige Frihedsrettigheder og Indre Anliggender til Rådet om visumpolitik over for borgere fra Mellem- og Østeuropa;
I would also stress that until such time as the list is fully harmonized, nationals of these two countries may continue to be required to hold a visa in order to enter a Member State if that Member State, under its own national laws, so decides, even if they do not appear on the common list.
Vi kan ikke invitere disse lande ind i vort europæiske hus og samtidig forbyde nogle af dem at gå ind i alle værelser.
Moreover, under Article 100c(4) of the EC Treaty, an individual Member State may still ask the Commission to make such a proposal.
— B4-1088/95 af Zimmermann og Lehne for Udvalget om Borgerlige Frihedsrettigheder og Indre Anliggender til Kommissionen om visumpolitik over for borgere fra Mellem- og Østeuropa.
Goerens (ELDR). — (FR) Mr President, this debate gives me an opportunity to tackle a problem which has been concerning us since the end of the Cold War: the problem of the free movement of individuals in the wider Europe that has existed since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
Zimmermann (PSE). — (DE) Hr. formand, for det første vil jeg gerne kommentere Deres bemærkning om, at afstemningen først skal finde sted i morgen.
Lehne (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, firstly I regard it as entirely positive that the Council has at last managed to reach a decision in an area of the third pillar.
Derfor spørger vi i denne mundtlige forespørgsel for det første Rådet og Kommissionen, hvorfor disse lande — altså Bulgarien og Rumænien — i modsætning til Visegrad-staterne står på denne negativliste, og om Rådet har til hensigt at slette
Now, one of the principles by which the European Union should be inspired is equality of treatment with respect to a given group of countries — in this particular case, the associate
Zimmermann disse lande fra listen.
countries of central and eastern Europe.
Desuden vil vi gerne vide. hvilke kriterier denne liste blev udarbejdet efter.
The visa requirement has been lifted for citizens of Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary... and that's it!
risici, der stadig består for ulovlig indvandring og i forbindelse med sikkerhedsspørgsmål, medlemsstaterne til at mene, at det var for tidligt at fjerne dem fra den fælles liste.
The requirement is still in force for Bulgaria and Romania.
Man bør notere sig, at listen blev enstemmigt vedtaget af medlemsstaterne, og først fra 1996 vil Rådets afgørelser i dette spørgsmål blive truffet med kvalificeret flertal.
Those two countries are, as of now, associate states, beneficiaries under the PHARE programme and partners in the Western European Union. Since the Essen summit, work on the details of their future accession to the European Union has continued non-stop.
Jeg vil også understrege, at indtil listen er helt harmoniseret, kan det fortsat kræves af statsborgere fra disse to lande, at de skal have visum for at komme ind i en medlemsstat, hvis denne medlemsstat under sine egne nationale love bestemmer dette, selv om de ikke står på den fælles liste.
Psychologically and politically, any discrimination, seen in the wrong light, would create a feeling of injustice and frustration, which would nurture excessive nationalism, xenophobia and withdrawal in the countries concerned.
Så Kommissionen er villig til at forelægge et nyt forslag for Rådet om disse to lande, når omstændighederne tillader det.
Secondly, the Union must be on its guard against creating a barrier, a sort of new Iron Curtain between the East and West of the continent.
Endvidere kan individuelle medlemsstater under artikel 100 C, stk. 4, i EU-traktaten, stadig anmode Kommissionen om at fremsætte et sådant forslag.
I do not deny that the Union has and needs to have external borders, but we must be careful not to go too far and drive away nations which desire — fervently, in many cases — to move closer to us, and which need to maintain contact with us.
Vedtagelsen af forordningen bygger på retsgrundlaget i artikel 100 C i traktaten, hvori det fastslås, at Rådet bestemmer, fra hvilke tredjelande statsborgere bør være i besiddelse af visum, når de passerer medlemsstaternes ydre grænser.
So it is no longer appropriate for the visa requirement to remain in force for these two countries.
Det er et vigtigt skridt henimod harmoniseringen af visumpolitikkerne og henimod et område uden indre grænser.
I have not heard any convincing arguments against lifting the visa requirement, which is why the Liberal Group unanimously supports the amendment tabled by Mrs Zimmermann with a view to putting an end to a practice which we find disturbing and which should no longer exist.
Listen over tredjelande, som er bilag til Kommissionens forslag, har været genstand for nøje undersøgelse i Rådet, som førte til tilføjelse af nogle ændringer. De vigtigste kriterier, man lagde til grund ved udarbejdelsen af denne liste, er opført i et nyt punkt, som netop er inspireret af det tredje ændringsforslag til Europa-Parlamentets betænkning.
I invite the members of the other political groups to follow us down this road, because, in my capacity as deputy chairman of the Joint Parliamentary Commission with Bulgaria and Romania, I must confess that we have few convincing arguments — indeed, few arguments of any kind — to offer them when they raise this question, which is more of an anachronism than a necessity.
Det drejer sig helt konkret om risici i forbindelse med sikkerhed og den illegale immigration.
Schroedter (V). — (DE) Mr President, this affront to Romania and Bulgaria, two of the six Central and Eastern European countries that have concluded association agreements, is openly directed against the citizens of these countries.
Det er imidlertid vigtigt at minde om, at der er taget højde for. at listen vil blive ændret i overensstemmelse med udviklingen i den internationale situation.
It is directed against an improvement in economic relations, where as in fact we should be aiming at the rapprochement of these countries with the European Union by means of close contacts and joint ventures.
Først vil jeg nævne, at jeg finder det absolut positivt, at det endelig er lykkedes Rådet at træffe en beslutning på et område inden for den tredje søjle.
Before I comment on this issue, however, it is necessary to look at the assumption behind the question, in other words what it implies, which is that matters concerning entry to a country, such as Denmark for example, are to be decided by the Union.
Vi har jo ikke altid haft udelukkende gode erfaringer her med henblik på Rådets enstemmighed og konsensusdygtighed.
In practice, this means by the Schengen countries and not, as hitherto, by the Danish authorities which are democratically accountable.
Derfor synes jeg, at den kendsgerning, at denne visumforordning foreligger, principielt er god.
We as a nation have the power to decide which foreign nationals should be subject to controls, and that power is a key element of the policy on foreign nationals.
Måske gik det også så relativt hurtigt, fordi der ifølge artikel 100 C fra 1996 skal træffes afgørelser med kvalificeret flertal.
The fact that, since Maastricht, this power over policy on foreign nationals has been successively transferred to the Union — and in practice, in this case, to the Schengen countries — and taken away from the national authorities remains one of the most offensive features of the move towards federalism which led the Danish people to say no to Maastricht, and which also found an echo in last month's elections in Sweden.
Men der står alligevel stadig mange spørgsmål åbne i forbindelse med nærværende foreslåede forordning, hvilket er grunden til, at disse mundtlige forespørgsler blev stillet.
I described this in greater detail in the debate here on 16 January this year. In my view, it remains the most important point.
Jeg vil derfor for det første gerne sige. at situationen ikke er definitiv, den kan ændres og vedtages af et kvalificeret flertal i Rådet efter den 1. januar.
I cannot imagine how cross-frontier cooperation is to succeed under these conditions, for instance with Greece.
Og for det andet, at gennem denne dialog og de stabilitetsforanstaltninger.
How is this affront regarded in Bulgaria and Romania?
Den Europæiske Union ønsker at gennemføre med disse lande, kan man — og vi håber det vil lykkes — tilpasse situationen på disse to vigtige områder for Den Europæiske Union: sikkerheden og den illegale immigration. tion.
The people of these countries, who will have to cope with the red tape and bear the costs of the visa, will probably doubt the credibility of the promises the European Union has made so far.
Der kan ikke herske tvivl om, at visumpligten og tredjelandes samtidige associering med Den Europæiske Union egentlig er selvmodsigende.
The official justification is that this measure is directed against organized crime and designed to protect against waves of refugees.
Det vil sige, når man associerer en stat, så at sige giver den visse medlemskabsrettigheder, så er det natur ligvis selvmodsigende, når man så som modtræk siger: Enhver, der vil rejse ind i Unionen fra disse lande, skal have et visum.
It has already been said how ineffectual it is in this respect. The justification that traditional lists are being used as the basis is a signal to the people of Romania and Bulgaria: 'We don't want you'.
Derfor er jeg af den overbevisning, at man kun må indføre en sådan visumpligt for borgere i de associerede stater, hvis der er særlig tungtvejende grunde hertil.
It is blackmail and therefore unacceptable to tie structured cooperation to repatriation agreements.
Vi er alle klar over, at både bekæmpelsen af den illegale indvandring og sikkerheden i Den Europæiske Union er af helt afgørende betydning for os og naturligvis skal støttes i enhver henseende.
To avoid doing further political damage vis à vis these countries and vis à vis our partners, I call on the Council and the Commission to abolish on principle the visa requirement for any associated states.
Grundlaget for forhandling blev ikke draget i tvivl af Parlamentet, da det drøftede Kommissionens forslag baseret på artikel 100 C i traktaten om Den Europæiske Union.
The question today has not been raised by critics of the Union, however, but by Members who are not disturbed by the move towards federalism.
Men jeg har på grundlag af de indlæg, som vi hidtil har hørt fra både rådsformanden og kommissærens side, i al fald med hensyn til det ene af de pågældende lande ikke fået klarhed over, hvorfor disse kriterier skulle være opfyldt.
It has been tabled by keen federalists who are focusing on a different issue, namely the contradiction that on the one hand the Union is welcoming Bulgaria and Romania to the club, while on the other hand turning away their citizens from its countries. This is naturally a problem.
Jeg vil gerne referere til mine erfaringer med Bulgarien.
But there is no connection between this problem and the visa policy as such.
Der findes, så vidt jeg ved, ikke noget nævneværdigt indvandringspres fra Bulgarien til landene i Den Europæiske Union.
The problem simply arises from the ambiguous debate which is taking place about the plans for the Union and its enlargement towards Central and Eastern Europe.
Der findes, hvis jeg er rigtigt informeret, i Tyskland lidt under 30 000 bulgarer, og der er heller intet mærkbart indvandringspres fra dette land.
These countries are not meant to be engaged in totally free cooperation.
Derfor er jeg absolut af den mening, at man bør overveje, om visumpligten kan opretholdes i et sådant tilfælde.
They are meant to be subject to the conditions which the Union lays down, and this point was very clearly made in the white paper of last May.