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Dette er den sande begyndelse på afviklingen af EKSF-traktaten.
The Parliament followed us in April, when we postponed the report, and then things began to happen with Mr Schmidhuber's help.
Fordi dette problem er så soleklart, vil behandlingen af budgettet for 1994 blive den egentlige nøgle for den gradvise phasing-in eller phasing-out.
He promised us information, and I should like to praise Mr Schmidhuber's staff, especially Mr Van den Abelle, for the way he coordinated things, so that we could get information. It was a successful operation.
Tillægs- og ændringsbudgettet for 1993 bebuder således nye retningslinjer forde fremtidige budgetter, navnlig for 1994budgettet, som Kommissionen for øvrigt netop har godkendt i denne uge.
I would also suggest to the Parliament that we adopt this report, when we come to vote on it.
A3-258/93) af Blak for Budgetkontroludvalget om meddelelse af decharge til Kommissionen for forvaltningen af EKSF for regnskabsåret 1991.
Mr Blak as we know worked very seriously to put the right questions behind the numbers which crop up in the case of the ECSC and concern the treatment of different budget lines.
omfanget af EKSF-budgettet for 1993 forblive praktisk talt uændret.
It is sad that the Commission could not agree in time with the European Parliament to discharge last April.
Ændringerne på udgiftssiden er ikke særlig betydelige.
I am glad that we have got facts, information and guarantees.
Udviklingen på dette område giver os allerede en forsmag på de budgetvanskeligheder, vi står over for i forbindelse med EKSF-budgettet for 1994.
Let us hope that next year we get a better budget, but according to what I have just heard, we shall have another detective story where we step in and sort out some of the things which have gone on.
Hr. Samland henviste netop til det.
Thank you once again for the openness which is gradually coming; I hope it will get even better, Mr Schmidhuber!
BLAK (PSE), ordfører. - Hr. formand, hr. kommissær, jeg er holdt op med at læse kriminalromaner.
The rapporteur divided his work into three parts: security of lendings, property policy and the Bagnoli debacle.
På udgiftssiden skal forskningsstøtten til kulsektoren forhøjes med 1,8 mio ECU.
The loans seen as secure on 31 12 1991 are not in my opinion a serious threat to the ECSC's budget.
Det er nødvendigt, for at fire projekter, som allerede var planlagt til 1992, men er blevet forsinket af forvaltningsmæssige grunde, nu kan gennemføres.
We support the position that the Commission will have to take a firm stance so that loan guarantors comply with their obligations.
Desuden bliver 22 mio ECU, som var stillet i udsigt til rentetilskud til miljøprojekter, omfordelt til fordel for rentetilskud til omstillingslån.
The report stresses the serious situation which the iron and steel industry is facing and the need for further restructuring.
Vi mente, at der var for få informationer og oplysninger, og vi kunne ikke rigtigt komme igennem med at få disse informationer.
I shall only refer to the final point, the Bagnoli debacle, on which unacceptable stands have been taken.
Parlamentet fulgte os i april måned, hvor vi udsatte betænkningen, og så skete der ellers ting og sager med hr. Schmidhubers hjælp.
I should like to say that we back the Blak report and the outstanding work he has carried out on the Commission discharge. charge.
Den centrale ændring på indtægtssiden vedrører den såkaldte nettosaldo for foregående regnskabsår.
SAMLAND (PSE). - (DE) Mr President, it is good that we at last have a dialogue.
Denne vigtige finansieringkilde på budgettet var opført til 269 mio ECU i regnskabsåret 1993.
Commissioner, in response to the criticism you just made of me in the other debate, and which is indeed of relevance here, namely that we get some ECU 4 m per 0.01% of levy, the fact is that this depends primarily on the turnover of undertakings, which is not static but fluctuates.
Den er imidlertid som følge af uforudselige omstændigheder reduceret til 116 mio ECU.
If I remind you that we started with 0.33% and you just think back to the losses we have made in the years in which we have reduced the levy - at that time the quota was in fact still at ECU 6.5 m per 0.01 % - then it is clear that you need not have been in this situation.
For det første led EKSF, som De ved, betyde lige tab i forbindelse med lån, som den havde ydet to stålfirmaer.
You would have needed neither to set about the reserve, nor reduce year n by 1, that is use up the remainder.
For det andet måtte der foretages hensættelser til erstatningskrav, som er opstået i forbindelse med den tidligere stålkvoteordning.
If we had adopted the approach which you proposed to us and reduced the levy still further, then we would be in a far worse position that we are today.
For at kompensere for disse lavere indtægter og dermed undgå drastiske budgetnedskæringer besluttede Kom missionen at ændre sin regnskabspraksis og fra 1993 allerede at bogføre provenuet fra det indeværende år.
Parliament did not feel able, in April of this year, to give discharge in respect of the ECSC budget management for 1991, as some vital information was lacking, and a series of intensive discussions between the rapporteur, Mr Blak, and the Commission services has since taken place.
Desuden har den opført et beløb på 51 mio ECU fra garantifonden - også dette er allerede nævnt - som ekstraordinær indtægt.
This primarily concerned an analysis of ECSC loans involving a risk and the way in which the Commission deals with such risks.
Jeg vil også foreslå Parlamentet, at vi vedtager denne betænkning, når vi skal stemme om den.
Going back to the real problem which Mr Blak just mentioned, the question of guarantees.
Men jeg må nok sige, at det er skrappe sager, der kommer frem i lyset, når vi begynder at gå lidt ned under den fine overflade.
Mr Blak has indicated very carefully in paragraphs 5 to 8 of his motion for a resolution that the Commission was previously very prudent in its approach, and you cannot try to contradict that here, Commissioner.
Hvis jeg bare kigger på administrationen af EKSF, så er det ret beskæmmende, at man faktisk kun betaler 5 mio ECU til EF-budgettet for at administrere denne ordning, når den reelle udgift ligger i en størrelsesorden af 25 mio ECU.
Previously the message was always - particularly to Mr Pasty who has long been wanting to broach the reserves - that our credit-worthiness would be prejudiced if we cut the reserves.
Hvorfor ikke give Kommissionen nogle ting?
You have now made an initial proposal on this, and. in the draft budget for 1994, you will be proposing a further reduction.
Hvorfor ikke ansætte nogle mennesker til at lave dette arbejde, som er nødvendigt, og i øvrigt så give os de informationer, vi har brug for?
Please make a statement in your next answer as to when the point is reached where the reserves have fallen so low that credits awarded by us are no longer considered reliable.
I øvrigt bør man, hr. Samland, ikke undervurdere afgiftens omfang; 0,01% af afgiften - og det er jo i sådanne størrelsesordener, vi bevæger os - tilvejebringer kun 4 mio ECU.
It states in its report that as at 31.12.1991 it had made individual value adjustments for such cases to the level of ECU 7.5 m, corresponding to less than 1% of the loans outstanding at that same point.
Nogle af de ting, vi var meget utilfredse med, og som vi ikke kunne få informationer om, var sikkerheden for lånene.
This extremely low rate also meant that the AAA continued to be accorded.
Jeg må nok sige, at jeg er stadig væk betænkelig, og efter det, hr. Schmidhuber lige har sagt, og efter det, der kom frem fra hr. Samland, må jeg nok sige, at vi virkelig er ved at være i klemme.
Mr Samland put the question, in connection with the Italian Ilva company, of the securities provided here.
Hvad nu hvis de italienske stålværker går hen og privatiserer og lukker virksomhederne, hvor vi har 11 mia danske kroner i klemme?
I should point out that the loans to Ilva were made at an earlier stage and that the fact of privatization does not mean that the creditors can require fresh securities.
Har vi nogen garanti? Ja, siger De, der er italiensk lov, men vi har jo set, hvordan tyskerne kunne lægge politisk pres, så man slettede tingene.
As far as the issue of securities generally is concerned - and this will be a factor in the connection with measures to help the European steel industry - a guarantee by one of the major banks is usually required.
Der er nogle ting, vi skal være meget opmærksomme på her.
This is the crux of the problem.
Det er vi i hvert fald i Budgetkontroludvalget.
If I understand correctly, the Uva case is to be resolved through privatization.
De problemer, der fremover rejser sig i denne forbindelse, vil vi udførligt skulle behandle på grundlag af budget forslaget for 1994, som Kommissionen vil forelægge Dem i disse dage.
Thereafter, a residual debt remains - at what level, your colleague in front of you is better qualified to say, as he deals with the issue of the winding-up or conversion of state-owned undertakings of this kind.
Først og fremmest drejer det sig om at sikre finansieringen af det oprindeligt vedtagne EKSF-budget for 1993.
If there is a residual debt, we have to ask how then, in the case of a private undertaking of that kind, repayment to the ECSC can in future be secured, and what sort of guarantee are you asking for?
Jeg vil derfor gerne bede Dem om at tage positiv stilling til forslaget til ændringsbudget.
A bank guarantee of ability to repay?
Når vi så kigger på den tabel, der er opstillet fra DG XVIII om sikkerheden for lånene, så bliver vi betænkelige, når statsgarantierne kun er 21 %, og der ingen garanti er af 50%.
I would not, however, pretend that the situation, particularly in the steel industry, has not worsened over the past two years.
Der er altså virkelig fare for, at vi mister en masse penge her, fordi landene udelukkende bruger pengene til regionalpolitik, hvorefter de lægger politisk pres på os, og så er det os, der bliver sorteper og taber i
The collapse of a number of important under takings in the steel sector has caused the Commission to introduce additional measures where outstanding loans are not repaid.
Afstemningen finder sted i morgen kl. 12.00.
For that purpose, it has made the appropriate provision directly in the ECSC balance sheet.
BLAK dette spil, og det gider vi ikke længere finde os i.
Debates of the European Parliament
Vi forlanger, at Kommissionen og landene nu tager det her seriøst, så vi virkelig kan få ryddet op i det svineri, der foregår.
SCHMIDHUBER financial regulations, and that he will not be allowed to interpret them as if they are somehow optional extras.
gøre et modstridende indtryk.
So we are not asking the Commission to do the impossible and reply to us by last week!
Indtil nu har man altid sagt - især til hr. Pasty, der jo for længst har villet have fat i hensættelserne og reserverne - at betalingsevnen i for bindelse med vore lån drages i tvivl, hvis vi reducerer reserverne.
As far as the concessionary rates of interest for the Ilva company in Bagnoli are concerned, the Commission only recently requested repayment of part of the concessionary interest accorded, as those resources were not used in accordance with the agreement with the ECSC.
De har nu forelagt det første forslag for os, og De vil jo med budgetforslaget for 1994 foreslå en yderligere nedsættelse.
On the question of the property transactions in Paris, the Com mission has concealed nothing and provided full details on the measures taken and the considerations by which it was guided.
Sig venligst i Deres næste svar, hvornår det punkt er nået, hvor reserverne er nedsat så meget, at der ikke længere eksisterer nogen betalingsevne for de lån, vi har ydet. Det er det første punkt.
It has, however, taken Parliament's criticism very seriously and, in the meantime, tightened up the rules governing investment of part of the ECSC portfolio in property.
Når vi så kigger på nogle af de ting, der også har været, er det en bestseller af rang.
The Paris case will not therefore be repeated, and I have just recently rejected a proposal to purchase other property in a European capital.
Tænk, at man køber en ejendom i Paris, man sælger en ejendom og siger, at nu fik vi nogle penge ind, som ejes af tre budgetter, men det er kun det ene budget, der tager pengene, og så køber man tilmed en lejlighed til en embedsmand og giver 30 mio danske kroner for den!
The essence of the report goes back to the 1990 discharge. You will recall that we deferred discharge on three grounds: problems relating to financial control, to budget discipline and the agricultural sector, and to the management of own resources.
Det er fuldstændigt skingrende sindssygt, og det er sådan noget, at skatteyderne ikke kan forstå.
The issues of budget discipline and own resources are being discussed in the separate context of the interinstitutional agreement, so this report principally concerns itself with financial control.
Så prøver man at tale sig fra det; man prøver at opføre det i status, så det kun står til en værdi af 1 ECU -jamen, det er jo næsten bedrageri det, der foregår!
The main issue that was raised by Parliament in the discharge concerned the granting of approval by the Financial Controller in cases where it should be withheld, and especially the problem of ex-post request for approval.
Hvordan kan man sidde og lave sådan noget, hvis man er seriøse mennesker?
What is essentially involved in such cases is sound financial management of taxpayers' money.
Jeg har fået et svar, men det er ikke tilfredsstillende; men det er godt for os i Budgetkontroludvalget, at Kommissionen har garanteret os, at der bliver ingen ejendomshandler, uden at de er godkendt i Budgetkontroludvalget.
As far as the administrative costs of the ECSC are concerned, we agree that some transfer of resources from the EEC to the ECSC is taking place - if the administrative costs are put at ECU 5 m, as has already been mentioned.
Nu må vi så se, om de holder ord.
The transfer was, however, specifically decided in that way by the Member States.
Ellers skal vi i hvert fald nok være der og fortælle, hvis det ikke er tilfældet.
In addition, any such increase in estimated administrative costs would, of course, be at the expense of ECSC operational expenditure.
Det andet punkt: vedrørende spørgsmålet om, hvordan låntagerne egentlig kan tilbyde nok sikkerhed, hørte De lige hr. Blak sige, at der netop i forbindelse med omdannelsen af hidtidige statsforetagender til private virksom heder opstår yderligere risici.
Let me conclude by thanking the rapporteur, Mr Blak, who has spared no effort in coming to grips with these complex problems, and whose endeavours have finally produced a positive result.
Nu står vi jo allerede over for problemet.
The vote will take place tomorrow at 12 noon.
Hvis jeg ser det rigtigt, skal Ilva-sagen løses gennem en privatisering.
In the discharge resolution we lay down a very firm set of words.
Derefter er der fortsat en restgæld - i hvilken størrelsesorden kan Deres kollega, som sidder foran Dem, bedre sige, for han beskæftiger sig jo med spørgsmålet om opløsning og omdannelse af sådanne statsforetagender.
Following negotiations with the Commission and the Financial Controller, when we ultimately gave discharge we gave it on a softer form of words.
Hvis der er en restgæld tilbage, rejser der sig jo følgende spørgsmål: Hvordan kan man egentlig i forbindelse med en sådan privat virksom hed fremover sikre tilbagebetalingen til EKSF, og hvad forlanger De som garanti? En bankgaranti for tilbagebetalingsevnen? talingsevnen?
But that softer form of words is not a form of words which we are in any way going to go back on.
ZAVVOS (PPE). - (GR) Hr. formand, vi glæder os over den aftale, der er kommet i stand mellem Kommissionen og Rådet, og som giver Europa-Parlamentet lejlighed til at give Kommissionen decharge for forvaltningen af EKSF for regnskabsåret 1991.
Firstly, it says that during the reference period financial control withheld approval in six cases which were not overruled, and secondly, that despite the improvements the situation is still not satisfactory.
Jamen, hvem er det, der sover i timen?
Response to 1990 discharge
Jeg er glad for, at vi har fået oplysninger, informationer og garantier.
On the second point, however, the report of the Commission is unclear.
Jeg har også været glad for hr. Schmidhubers kommentar om et bedre samarbejde om informationer og oplysninger.
I take it to mean that financial control still receives a significant number of ex-post requests for approval and still approves most of them.
Lad os håbe, at vi næste år får et bedre budget, men efter det, jeg lige har hørt, så bliver det endnu en gang en kriminalroman, hvor vi skal på banen og rydde op i nogle af de ting, der er sket.
But the Financial Controller has not as required reported all such cases of ex-post approval to Parliament.
Endnu en gang tak for den åbenhed, der efterhånden er ved at komme; jeg håber, det bliver endnu bedre, hr. Schmidhuber!
I am frankly disturbed by the information that I have received from the Court of Auditors on this point, which leads me to believe that approvals of proposals submitted after the event remain very much the rule rather than the exception.
Ordføreren har koncentreret sit arbejde om tre områder: For det første sikkerhed for lån, for det andet ejendomspolitik og for det tredje Bagnoli-projektet.
So the report asks for very specific answers to a series of very specific questions and I have already explained the dates we are applying to those.
De lån, der den 31.12.1991 var klassificeret som risiko betonede, udgør efter min opfattelse ikke nogen trussel mod EKSF's balance.
But even where proposals are submitted in advance and approved by financial control, value for money may still not be ensured.
Endelig vil jeg nævne Bagnoli-projektet, som har givet anledning til mange vanskelige og uacceptable situationer.
One of the specific examples that I should like to draw the House's attention to is the long-standing concern of
SAMLAND (PSE). - (DE) Hr. formand, det er dejligt, at vi virkelig for en gangs skyld opnår en dialog, hr. kommissær.
TOMLINSON (PSE), rapporteur. - Mr President, I would say to the Commissioner that we really must stop meeting like this!
Som resultat af disse drøf-
This is our report on his report in reply to our report which gave him discharge back in 1990.
Tilbage til det egentlige problem, som hr. Blak netop tog op, nemlig spørgsmålet om garantier.
What I am saying right at the outset is, however, that the conditions that we made in granting the Commission discharge are conditions that we remember and that we will not let up on.
Hr. Blak har i sit beslutningsforslags punkt 58 meget omhyggeligt gjort opmærksom på. at Kommissionen faktisk hidtil har været meget forsigtig, og nu kan De, hr. kommissær, her ikke
We are really saying quite clearly to the Commissioner that he will follow the requirements of the
SCHMIDHUBER ville en sådan forhøjelse af det faste beløb til administrationsomkostningerne blive debiteret EKSF's driftsudgifter. ter.
Today's debate is useful if it can help the European Parliament to reach the right conclusions in the area of receipts which perhaps could influence decisions in the future.
teiser sendte jeg Dem de krævede oplysninger den 26.juli.
The report is very specific and very detailed.
Det drejede sig her i første række om en analyse af de risikobetonede EKSF-lån og den måde, hvorpå Kommissionen imødegår denne risiko.
We look forward to confirmation from the Commission that we will receive the detailed answers and the detailed assurances we seek by the dates we have set in the report.
Lad mig til slut takke ordføreren, hr. Blak, der har gjort alt for at sætte sig ind i den komplicerede problematik, og hvis bestræbelser i sidste instans fører til en positiv afslutning.
The Tomlinson report described graphically the European Parliament's concern in recent years about the way in which the procedure of own resources works and how it is developing.
FORMANDEN. - Forhandlingen er afsluttet. Afstemningen finder sted i morgen kl. 12.00.
The conclusions which we reached after these long debates in the Committee on Budgetary Control show that much of the blame lies with the Commission.
Viderebehandling af decharge for 1990
We deferred the decision on the 1990 discharge because of three major differences with the Commission: own resources, budget discipline in the agricultural sector and financial control.
Hr. Samland stillede nu i forbindelse med den italienske Ilva-koncern spørgsmålet om, hvilken sikker hed der blev givet her. Jeg tillader mig at henvise til, at lånene til Ilva allerede blev givet tidligere, og at en privatisering jo ikke medfører, at kreditor kan forlange en ny sikkerhed.
The rapporteur has already done so in detail, here and in his report.
Hvad angår spørgsmålet om sikkerhed i almindelighed - og det vil jo nu i forbindelse med foranstaltningen til fordel for den europæiske stålindustri spille en rolle - kræves der som regel en garanti fra en stor bank som sikkerhed.
It never brought the Member States before the European Court for the flouting of Council of Europe rules and the Commission systematically ignores the Court of Audit's observations.
FORMANDEN. - Næste punkt på dagsordenen er betænkning (dok. A3-256/93) af Tomlinson for Budget kontroludvalget om Kommissionens rapport om de for anstaltninger, der er truffet som følge af bemærkningerne i den ledsagende beslutning til afgørelsen om meddelelse af decharge for gennemførelsen af De Europæiske Fællesskabers almindelige budget for regnskabsåret 1990 (SEK(93) 388 endel. - Bilag).
Much was said about budget discipline in the agricultural sector in Edinburgh and I think that Parliament's view has in the meantime slowly but surely been accepted by the Commission and may perhaps in the future be endorsed by the Council as well.
Netop i den for tiden for stålvirksomhederne økonomisk vanskelige situation vil Kommissionen også holde meget nøje øje med, at de forpligtelser, som kautionisterne har overtaget, også overholdes, for så vidt som debitorerne ikke længere er betalingsdygtige. Det er næsten det samme, hr. Samland.
On own resources we have also made a little progress, away from the renationalization indicated at that stage by the Court of Auditors and back to harmonization of VAT, to more GNP finance and to a whole new system via another intergovernmental conference.
TOMLINSON, ordfører. - (EN) Hr.formand, jeg må sige til kommissæren, at vi virkelig må holde op at mødes på denne måde.
All of this is documented in the reports of the Court of Audit and the Committee on Budgetary Control.
Her er vor betænkning om hans rapport om vor beslutning, der meddelte ham decharge helt tilbage i 1990.
We must as fast as possible create a system of economic autonomy in the Community.
Det Jeg straks fra begyndelsen siger, er imidlertid, at de betingelser, vi stillede, da vi gav Kommissionen decharge, er betingelser, som vi husker, og som vi ikke vil slække på.
The European citizen, ladies and gentlemen, must be taxed directly by the Community and directly control the Community through the European Parliament, the Court of Audit and the European Court.
Vi siger i virkeligheden ganske tydeligt til kommissæren, at han skal følge kravene i finansforordningerne, og at han ikke vil få lov til at fortolke dem, som om de på en eller anden måde er valgfri tilgift.
This criticism levelled against the Commission for failure in its duty is an important part of the proposals we should make next April concerning the discharge for 1992.
I de to punkter 7 og 18 i forslaget til beslutning nævnes datoen den 13. oktober 1993.
The point I want to make is the important one referred to in our resolution on discharge.
Vi beder altså ikke Kommissionen gøre det umulige og svare os senest i sidste uge.
We had called for an annual report on the use of appropriations in every budget line of policy in the budget.