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Theato (PPE),. ordfører for Budgetkontroludvalget. -(DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, troede vi ikke alle, eller håbede vi ikke i det mindste alle, at den lange historie om MED-programmerne langt om længe var slut, og at Kommissionen havde handlet, da vi for mere end et år siden vedtog en tilsvarende beslutning og eftertrykkeligt gentog væsentlige punkter herfra i den udskudte de charge i foråret?
For that reason, Commissioner, I cannot urge strongly enough that we should bring this matter to a conclusion and see that the necessary action is taken, so that we can all honestly say that we have rectified the mistakes and the shortcomings, as well as the procedures which are necessary to en able the Commission to live up to its responsibilities.
Helt ved siden af! Som ordføreren, hr. Fabra Vallés, har redegjort for, har vi i stedet for forbedringer fået ny viden, der ser ud til at afsløre en langt større finansiel skade end hidtil antaget.
This brings us to one of the two main problems that led to the postponement of the discharge for 1996, namely the question of whether criminal fraud may be involved here, in addition to serious irregularities.
Kjer Hansen (ELDR). - Hr. formand, lad mig indlede med at takke ordføreren for samarbejdet.
Pompidou (UPE). - (FR) Mr President, I am speaking here on behalf of Mr Giansily who has been detained at another meeting.
Specielt har jeg været meget glad for den opbakning, der har været til en række ændringsforslag, som vi har stillet, og jeg er glad for, at vi er enige om en linje, som går på at få placeret an svaret i Kommissionen og undlade at »pinpointe« be stemte embedsmænd, men kræve, at det er Kommissionen, der påtager sig det politiske ansvar for situationen.
In spite of the serious and expert work carried out by Mr Fabra Vallés, we find the report on the repercussions of the MED programmes affair highly un satisfactory. In fact, we believe that, far from clarifying the debate on the 1996 discharge, this report only makes the issue more confusing.
Det må nemlig være sådan, at Kommissionen hverken må dække over embedsmænd eller skubbe embedsmænd foran sig, men netop selv påtage sig ansvaret for, at tingene er, som de er.
The irregularities discovered in the management of the MED programmes, which meant that these programmes were suspended until the Commission relaunched them in April, involve more than a third of the appropriations used and the financial loss is much greater than was first supposed.
Jeg må be klage det forløb, der har været, for sagen er jo, at vi med denne betænkning ikke kan afslutte sagen, men endnu en gang må opfordre Kommissionen til at tage initiativer og endnu en gang må meddele, hvilke skridt vi må tage fra Parlamentets side, hvis Kommissionen ikke efterkommer de krav, vi stiller.
But this matter can only be settled by the courts, which is why we call on the Commission for the third and last time to forward the entire file to the judicial authorities, so that they can at least examine the question of their competence and then, where appropriate, bring proceedings!
Revisorerne beskæftiger sig med rundt regnet halvdelen af de afsluttede projekter og mener, at man kan kræve ca. EUR 4 millioner tilbage.
We believe that administrative inquiries and processes are no substitute for disciplinary proceedings and are not the appropriate way to prove the innocence of a possible sus pect.
Jeg spørger Kommissionen: Hvor meget har den rent faktisk hentet tilbage i mellemtiden?
Kjer Hansen (ELDR). - (DA) Mr President, let me begin by thanking the rapporteur for his cooperation.
Er den anden del af projekterne blevet revideret nu, og hvor meget gemmer der sig i den i form af tilbagekrævninger?
In particular, I have been very pleased with the support there has been for a number of amendments we have tabled, and I
Hvilke konsekvenser drager Kommissionen af de alvorlige mangler, som revisionsfirmaet har fundet frem til, såsom projekter, der har fået for stor støtte, forsvundne bilag osv.?
As the rapporteur has clearly shown, the management of the MED programmes shows evidence of serious man agement problems for which the Commission is entirely responsible and for which it must accept the consequences, as provided for in the Treaties.
Hvorfor blev UCLAF ikke inddraget i god tid, som ordføreren siger?
This whole matter falls within the framework of the discharge procedure, which will be on the agenda in December.
Hvad angår den finansielle administration af ARTM, som Kommissionen benyttede sig af i sin tid, kommer det britiske revisions
The instruments the European Parliament has at its disposal to mark its disapproval, or to punish the Commission, are the re fusal to grant discharge and even the censure procedure.
Derfor vil jeg spørge kommissæren, om vi allerede i dag kan få et klart svar på, hvorvidt Kommissionen vil følge op på punkt 3 i betænkningen og tage de konkrete initiativer, der bliver bedt om.
Further debate, in my view, is likely to weaken Parliament's position in the vote in December and I regret the fact that consideration of the MED programmes is not an
Miranda (GUE/NGL). - (PT) Hr. formand, vi er enige med ordføreren, både i hans vurdering af den foreliggende sag, i den kritik, som han fremfører af Kommissionen, og i mange af de forslag, som han lægger frem.
the Green Group and in Parliament as a whole, are ex tremely upset about events surrounding the implementation of the MED programmes.
Det forekommer os, at denne betænkning i stedet for at belyse debatten om decharge 1996 blot forvirrer be greberne.
For our part, we are hoping for an objective debate on the discharge for the 1996 financial year.
De uregelmæssigheder, der er blevet påvist i forbindelse med forvaltningen af MED-programmerne, og som medførte, at disse programmer blev afbrudt, inden Kommissionen genoptog dem i april, vedrører mere end en tredjedel af de anmeldte udgifter, og det økonomiske tab er større end formodet.
We hope, on the one hand, that genuine and frank questions will be asked re garding the irregularities and the fraud committed in the implementation of the MED programmes, for which re sponsibility lies with the Commission.
I den foreliggende sags nuværende fase er det efter vores opfattelse særlig afgørende, at Kommissionen forelægger hele sägen for de belgiske, franske og italienske retsmyndigheder, alle MED-affærens sagsakter, og at Europa-Parlamentet, såfremt den ikke gør det, træder i stedet og stiller alle de oplysninger, som det er i besiddelse af, til rå dighed for disse staters myndigheder.
And we hope, on the other hand, that Parliament shows no sign of weak ness in exercising the powers of which it is guardian on behalf of Europe's citizens because, when all is said and done, is it not our citizens who have been deceived in this affair?
Og Kommissionen bør gøre det snarest muligt, inden den 1. december, således som hr. Fabré Valles kræver det.
Since the MED programmes were last examined, new facts have come to light.
Den bør altså gøre det hurtigst muligt, og hvis den ikke gør det, har vi efter min mening faktisk stadig en af de af gørende grunde til, at der ikke er blevet givet Kommissionen decharge.
Yet the Commission has still not produced the information we asked for initially - and which we need in order to fulfil our remit as a supervisory body for the EU.
Kommissionen bærer det fulde ansvar for disse uregelmæssigheder og for ventes at tage konsekvenserne deraf, således som dette fremgår af traktaterne.
There is, after all, a possibility that its own officials might be involved in activities which could - at worst - entail criminal prosecution.
Denne sag indgår i den planlagte procedure, det vil sige dechargeproceduren, der er på dagsordenen i december.
The only way for the Commission to allay such suspicions is to come forward with the relevant documentation.
Alt andet synes at forringe Parlamentets stilling i forbindelse med afstemningen i december, og jeg beklager, at undersøgelsen af MED-programmerne ikke er medtaget i hr. Elles' overordnede betænkning om decharge.
The Green Group naturally supports the tough - but pat ently necessary - conclusions drawn by the rapporteur.
Holm (V). - (SV) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne takke Fabra Vallés for hans udmærkede betænkning. Mange mennesker er dybt berørt àf dette spørgsmål, både i Vgruppen og i Parlamentet som helhed.
Miranda (GUE/NGL). - (PT) Mr President, we agree with the rapporteur as regards both his assessment of this particular case and the criticism that he levels at the Com mission.
Det er vigtigt at understrege, at vi ikke diskuterer indholdet, men håndteringen af MED-programmet.
In the light of its seriousness, in that it refers to a collapse of the Union's financial resources -undoubtedly far greater than was initially thought -, it is politically embarrassing for the Commission.
Hvad er mon i øvrigt hensigten med den bøn, ordføreren retter til Kommissionen i sin beslutning?
It is therefore to be hoped, in this case as in others, that there might be signs of rigour and commitment of a differ ent kind for preventing irregularities and fraud.
Europa-Parlamentet burde foretage en vurdering af Kommissionens økonomiske forvaltning og ikke ledsage den gennem la byrinten af administrative undersøgelser, der er alt for uigennemsigtige.
We might expect far more firmness and swiftness in starting disciplinary or judicial procedures against those responsible for the irregularities and fraud.
Det er en skam, at ordføreren har fjernet sammenhængen mellem de konstaterede uregelmæssigheder og afvisningen af decharge, da det er dette forhold, der er debattens midtpunkt.
Whenever there are sug gestions that fraud has taken place, we might expect far more transparency and, in particular, an attitude of coop eration with the European Parliament, and especially with the relevant judicial authorities in the Member States.
En af de forpligtelser, som vi her i Parlamentet har over for vores vælgere og medborgere i EU, er at være et kon trolorgan.
Dell'Alba (ARE). - (FR) Mr President, last month the Committee on Budgetary Control had tabled a report by Mr Bosch, on the basis of Article 138b of the Treaty.
Vi skal sørge for en korrekt behandling af de spørgsmål, der tages op i Parlamentet.
The Presidency had to make it change the legal basis.
Det fremgår klart og tydeligt af EU-traktaten, at vi skal være et kontrolorgan. gan.
I think that this is a bit of a mess and I feel I must draw attention to it because, in my opinion, if it is acceptable once, we will have to be more careful in the future before presenting reports before the House.
Hr. formand, mine kære kolleger, vi forventer en debat uden eftergivenhed om decharge for regnskabsåret 1996.
The Commission should do this as quickly as possibly, by 1 December, as our colleague Mr Fabra Vallés has asked.
Vi forventer for det første, at de rigtige spørgsmål vil blive stillet - uden omsvøb - om de uregelmæssigheder og svigagtige handlinger, der har fundet sted i forbindelse med afviklingen af MED-programmerne, for hvilke Kommissionen må påtage sig det fulde ansvar.
In any case, it should do so as soon as possible and if it does not, in my opinion, I do not see how we would grant the Commission the discharge.
For det an det forventer vi, at Parlamentet udøver den magt, den er blevet tildelt af de europæiske borgere, for er det ikke, når alt kommer til alt, borgeren, der bliver snydt i denne sag?
When assessing the dis charge, a lot of things have to be taken into consideration, including whether or not the Commission has met our de mands concerning this vital issue.
Siden dette spørgsmål sidst blev behandlet er der kommet nye oplysninger frem om MED-programmet.
The Court of Auditors has drawn up around 40 special re ports over the last four or five years and Parliament has given its opinion on 10 reports in this House.
Samtidig har Kommissionen endnu ikke udleveret det materiale, som vi tidligere har anmodet om fra Parlamentets side for at kunne udføre vores opgave som EU's kontrolorgan.
As far as the MED affair is concerned, we have already had two reports and, in practice, we force the Commission to meet such short deadlines - by asking it, for example, to present documents within 10 days - that there may well be a third MED report.
Vi har brug for dette materiale i Budgetkontroludvalget for at kunne udføre vores arbejde.
It must not, in my view, resort to some sort of therapeutic persecution that hardly enhances the institutional balance or, more particularly, our own role. We have
FORSÆDE: Bertel HAARDER Næstformand
Dell'Alba these instruments, and we must keep them.
Vi råder over instrumenterne, lad os beholde dem, men lad os for himlens skyld se at få denne saga afsluttet.
But please let us try to put an end to this saga.
Fabre­Aubrespy (I­EDN). ­ (FR) Det fremgår bl.a. af vores beslutning af 31. marts, dér oplyser Kommissionen om decharge 1996­ betænkningen, at Budgetkontrolud­valget skulle udarbejde en ny betænkning om MED­pro­grammerne på baggrund af en beretning fra Kommissio­nen om den økonomiske kontrol med disse programmer.
Fabre-Aubrespy (I-EDN). - (FR) Our resolution of 31 March informing the Commission of the postpone ment of the 1996 discharge stated, in particular, that the Committee on Budgetary Control was to draw up a new report on the MED programmes on the basis of a report by the Commission on the financial audit of these pro grammes.
Sagens detaljer er blevet analyseret og især den rolle, som de kendte, belgiske selskaber har spillet, og som Kom­missionen bruger og ser ud til at have brugt i stor udstræk­ning for at dække over affærer såsom MED­program­merne.
The details of the matter have been examined, in particular the role of the well-known Belgian companies which the Commission uses and seems to have used quite extensively to deal with things like the MED programmes.
Den generelle konklusion af denne sag, hr. formand, er, at der må ske en strukturel ændring i Kom­missionens indre organisation, noget, som alle disse til­fælde viser, er langt mere nødvendigt, end det ser ud til ved første øjekast. Der må ske en omorganisering, en om­strukturering af den måde Kommissionen fungerer på, for ingen her i salen ønsker at nedvurdere eller forklejne Kommissionen.
The general conclusion from this whole affair, Commissioner, is that there will have to be a structural change in the in ternal organisation of the Commission, a thing which all these phenomena show to be more necessary than might appear at first sight.
Det viser sig i dag, at tabet for fællesskabsbudgettet er be­tydeligt større end oprindelig formodet, og der nævnes et beløb på næsten ECU 10 millioner.
It would appear today - and this has already been said -that the loss to the Community budget is significantly greater than had been originally assumed: a figure of almost ECU 10 million is mentioned.
De uberettigede til­skud, der er blevet udbetalt, er i øvrigt ikke fordelt jævnt på alle projekter. Der er projekter, der har modtaget beløb på over 50 % af de tilskud, hvorom der hersker alvorlig tvivl.
Indeed, the subsidies that were wrongly allocated are not spread evenly over all the projects; there are certain projects where more than 50 % of the subsidies paid are in serious doubt.
Liikanen, medlem af Kommissionen. - (EN) MED-programmerne blev iværksat i 1990.
Liikanen, Member of the Commission. - The MED coop eration programmes were initiated in 1990.
Rådet godkendte i 1992 retsgrundlaget for dem.
The Council approved the legal basis for them in June 1992.
Formålet med MED-programmerne var at fremme kontakter og overførsel af knowhow mellem civile aktører i de forskellige lande i Middelhavsområdet. området.
The aim of MED programmes was to promote contacts and the transfer of know-how between the actors in the civil societies on both shores of the Mediterranean.
Mellem 1992 og 1995 finansierede Fællesskabet 496 de centraliserede projekter, som havde 2000 deltagere.
Between 1992 and 1995 the Community financed 496 de centralised projects involving 2 000 participating opera tors.
Til sammen fik disse projekter tildelt ca. ECU 53 millioner. Hvilken konklusion kan man drage heraf?
A total of approximately ECU 53m was allocated to these projects.
Min konklusion er, at aldrig er så mange små projekter blevet finan sieret med så begrænsede midler og administrative res sourcer.
I would draw the conclusion that never have so many small projects been financed with such limited funds and limited administrative resources.
For at få et komplet billede af ledelsen af programmerne besluttede de kompetente kommissærer efter initiativ fra generaldirektøren for personale at afslutte undersøgelsen.
The report by financial control not only confirms the appalling quality of the service provided by the agency the Commission entrusted with financial control of the transMediterranean networks, but it also provides a great deal ofinformation about how this agency was run and the re lations it had with the Commission.
En supplerende undersøgelse blev ført af tre generaldirektører. De konkluderede i deres rapport, at principperne for sund økonomisk forvaltning ikke var blevet overholdt.
We thus learn that when the two board members of the agency who were also managers of two technical assistance agencies were called on to resign from the board in order to put an end to an obvious conflict of interests, they made their resignation conditional on their firms being awarded new technical assistance contracts, and this condition was met by the Commission.
Det blev desuden bemærket, at der var tale om manglende erkendelse af risikoen ved at uddelegere de administrative og tekniske opgaver.
Financial control's inquiry provides clear evidence that the selection procedures could have been rigged to make sure that the contracts did in fact go to the firms of the board members involved.
MED-programmernes formål og administrative krav stemte ikke overens med de menneskelige ressourcer, som Kommissionen rådede over.
The aims and the administrative requirements of MED programmes were not in line with the human resources that the Commission had at its disposal.
Der var et betydeligt pres fra Parlamentet, som ønskede, at de tildelte midler skulle bruges hurtigt.
There was significant pressure from Parliament to use the allocated credits quickly.
Kommissionen-indgik en forvaltningsaftale med agenturet ARTM i Belgien.
The Commission signed a management contract with a Belgian organisation, ARTM.
Med tanke på de vanskelige omstændigheder omkring forvaltningen af programmerne ville de tre generaldirektører ikke anbefale, at man indledte en disciplinærsag.
So a whole network of firms largely managed to bring the implementation of a whole policy under their control, and they were able to do so because this was tolerated, if not encouraged, by Commission officials.
Kommissionen gav sin tilslutning til rapportens konklusioner. Et brev underskrevet af generalsekretæren på vegne af Kommissionen blev sendt til de involverede tjeneste mænd.
The Commission can no longer claim that these are individual cases of fraud; we are most certainly dealing with an established system that has allowed firms to gain extensive access to Community funds.
Brevet udtrykte institutionens utilfredshed med deres ledelsespræstation. Begge de ovennævnte rapporter er blevet sendt videre til Parlamentet.
As such, we must now look at this in the context of the refusal to grant discharge and I am call ing on the general rapporteur for the discharge to propose a decision to this effect.
Som nævnt tidligere, gjorde en foreløbig rapport fra Revisionsretten i oktober 1995 Kommissionen opmærksom på de formodede uregelmæssigheder i ARTM's forvaltning àf projekterne.
In October 1995, as has been mentioned here, a preliminary report by the Court of Auditors alerted the Commission to the alleged existence of irregularities in the man agement of the projects by ARTM.
Kommissionen besluttede straks at indstille MED-programmerne og afbryde samarbejdet med ARTM for at klarlægge de faktiske forhold omkring de formodede uregelmæssigheder.
The Commission de cided immediately to suspend the execution of MED programmes and the contract with ARTM in order to clarify the facts surrounding the alleged irregularities.
På grundlag af revisionen fra Kommissionens finanskontrol og den endelige rapport fra Revisionsretten, som blev offentliggjort i maj 1996, beordrede Kommissionen Afdelingen for Koordinering af Foranstaltninger til Bekæmpelse af Bedrageri, UCLAF, til at iværksætte en undersøgelse både inden for og uden for Kommissionen.
On the basis of the audits carried out by the financial control of the Commission and the final report of the Court of Auditors published in May 1996, the Commission instructed its anti-fraud unit, UCLAF, to carry out an inquiry within and outside the Commission.
UCLAF's endelige rapport fra maj 1996 fandt ikke noget, der gav anledning til mistanke om svig blandt Kommissionens tjenestemænd.
UCLAF's final report of May 1997 could identify no cases giving rise to suspicion of fraud involving Commission officials.
Ordføreren bad Kommissionen forelægge Parlamentet referatet fra høringer foretaget i løbet af de administrative undersøgelser.
Sarlis (PPE). - (EL) Mr President, let me first congratu late the rapporteur Mr Fabra Vallés on the energy he showed in drawing up and preparing this report, which was solidly supported by nearly all the members of the Committee on Budgetary Control.
For det andet har Parlamentet ansvaret for at kontrollere gennemførelsen af budgettet samt retten til at få oplysninger som anført i traktatens artikel 206.
Their number has increased significantly and it is impossible for the European Parliament not to react to those reports and to what they denounce.
For at forene disse to forudsætninger har Kommissionen henvendt sig til Parlamentet, for at de to institutioner sam men kan udfærdige et adfærdskodeks vedrørende aktindsigt. sigt.
So it must be made clear -particularly to the Commission - that whilst we are neither .the police nor detectives, we have to face up to our responsibilities in relation to denunciations by an official institutional body of the European Union.
Ordføreren anmodede Kommissionen om at forelægge hele MED-sagen for de kompetente nationale retsmyndigheder inden 1. december.
The rapporteur asked the Commission to submit the whole MED file to competent national judicial authorities by 1 December.
Der findes imidlertid be stemmelser om overførsel af dokumenter til retsmyndigheder.
There are, however, provisions govern ing the transmission of documents to judicial authorities.
Der skal foreligge en tilstrækkelig formodning om svig, og dette er UÇLAF's opgave.
A sufficient presumption of fraud has to be established and this is the task of UCLAF.
Undersøgelserne gav ikke anledning til nogen tilstrækkelig formodning om svig.
In its inquiries no sufficient presumption of fraud could be established.
Det vender jeg tilbage til senere.
I will come back to this later.
Formålet er at involvere begge institutioners juridiske tjenester i processen.
Liikanen volve the legal services of both institutions in the process.
Kom missionen håber, at man kan nå frem til en aftale på det højest mulige niveau.
The Commission hopes that an agreement can be con cluded at the highest possible level.
I tillæg til de ovennævnte tiltag i forbindelse med forvaltningen af programmerne beordrede Kommissionen,,som allerede nævnt, en ekstern revision med det formål at lokalisere alle de udgifter, der ikke var i klar overensstemmelse med kontrakter eller regnskabsprincipper.
In addition to the abovementioned measures related to management of the programmes the Commission also or dered, as has already been said, an external audit with the aim of helping to identify all the expenditure that is not strictly in line with contracts or the rules of accounting.
De reviderede projekter udgør 70% af nettoudgifterne. Denne revision blev udført af et revisionsfirma.
The audited projects equal 70 % of the net expenditure used.
Et privat firma kan ikke afgøre, hvorvidt udgifterne er passende.
A private firm cannot decide whether the expenditure is appropriate.
Det er en opgave for de bemyndigende tjenestegrene under Kommissionens finanskontrol.
That is for the authorising services, under the financial control of the Commission.