natgillin/translations-raw huggingface dataset:
Vi synes at have været helt vilde med at fa reduceret skibsbygningsstøtten til vore værfter i hele Europa på et tidspunkt, hvor USA og Japan og i særdeleshed Korea har udvidet deres skibsbygningskapacitet — med 100% i Koreas tilfælde, hvor 36000 arbejdspladser er blevet til 45000 arbejdspladser på fire år. mens Europa siden 1976 har mistet ca. 200000 arbejdspladser.
It is vital for the Commission and the Council to really use their strength and all their efforts to secure the implementation of this agreement, both in the Member States and across the world.
Når man taler om støtte til nationale skibsværfter, er det klart, at man bevæger sig ud på farlige vande, for det er et meget ømtåleligt emne.
We all have a feeling that we can do things better when we talk about our shipping in our own backyard.
Alle lande, der hytter deres egne interesser, ved, at det drejer sig om arbejdspladser.
As a Dane, I am among those who say, like Mr Donnelly, that we must not see a further collapse in this part of European industry.
Det er stadig ikke sket. Hvorfor ikke?
I hope that it will be possible for it to do this, because it will benefit us all in the long run.
Således rustet, og via OECD og Gatt, ville vi med held kunne udfordre den forvridning af handel og industri, som konkurrerende lande praktiserer.
It is also clear that in the shipbuilding sector, where expensive capital assets are purchased and completion times are long, it is particularly important to have an exchange rate policy which neither provides an unfair competitive advantage by setting rates too low nor forms a barrier to competition by setting them too high.
Det ville være katastrofalt, hvis Europa i det 21. århundrede skulle lide skibbrud uden en værftsindustri.
For this reason too, these extremes should be avoided by ensuring that exchange rates are set in such a way within Europe as to prevent such distortions of competition.
Rönnholm (PSE). — (Fl) Hr. formand, jeg hører til det mindretal, der virkelig er skuffet over, at den frie konkurrence inden for skibsbygning udskydes.
I really hope that a determined effort will be made to promote competition and that the policy of subsidies will be eradicated as quickly and as completely as possible, since increasing production is the way to resolve competitive problems and obtain a competitive advantage for the future.
Forhåbentlig dog kun i kort tid.
Developing production is in the interest of shipbuilders, travellers and everybody else.
Det er meget beklageligt, at man efter de mange indlæg til fordel for friere konkurrence, alligevel lader til at ende med at forsvare støttepolitikken kraftigt.
Harrison (PSE). — Mr President, as Commissioner Van Miert knows, I represent a constituency which in the recent past has seen the closure of its shipyard of Cammell Laird at Birkenhead.
Verden har bestemt ingen gavn af denne støttepolitik, og derfor bør den afskaffes.
All that remains now are some 500 ship repair jobs.
Dette krav bliver især forståeligt, når man tænker på de lande, der ikke er økonomisk stærke, og som simpelt hen ikke har råd til disse støtteordninger.
I have to say that it is still greeted with astonishment in Merseyside that we have been granted Objective 1 monies in order to feed and encourage employment while on the other hand, we seem to have had the aid taken away from the Cammell Laird shipyard which was designed to retain the jobs that were already there.
Disse lande har selvfølgelig ingen gavn af, at det er tilladt at yde støtte.
We seem to give with one hand and take back with the other.
Men jeg mener, at det samtidig er nødvendigt, at Kommissionen også følger den interne konkurrencesituation i Den Europæ-
Certainly, a number of more critical views — sometimes even at odds with the truth — have been expressed; on the whole, however, I welcome Parliament's contributions to the deliberations of the Commission and the Council, since in the meantime this issue has been discussed fully and in detail by the Council.
Hvad er det, der er årsagen til. at vi i det hele taget bygger skibe?
Indeed, the solution in Europe must be to develop more technically advanced ships.
Hvad kan der sejles til? Hvordan kan der tjenes penge?
I support the rapporteur Mrs Garcia Arias in' retaining the 9% ceiling under the 7th Directive until the OECD agreement is properly signed.
Det kapløb er faktisk også noget af et studie værd.
I wonder whether we have acted wisely in the past in Europe.
Hvilke storredere er det, der køber skibe, og hvor får de dem bygget, og hvilke aftaler indgår man samtidig i sådan en byggefase?
We seem to have been hell-bent on reducing shipbuilding aid to our shipyards throughout Europe at a time when the US and Japan, and in particular Korea, have been expanding their shipbuilding capacity — 100% in the case of
Jeg er helt enig i det, der har været nævnt om nye skibstyper.
To start with, I wish to remind the House that this agreement was drawn up after long negotiations.
Vi kan måske i mellemtiden udvikle vores nærskibsfart og være med til at diskutere, hvordan man skaber nye transportkorridorer.
It did not fall from the sky, or appear overnight, but was concluded after lengthy deliberations on the part of the Commission and the European Union.
Den interkontinentale trafik med de store VLCC-både og store containerskibe vil altid være et globalt anliggende.
And it was concluded only because all the parties were convinced that it served the interests of their respective shipbuilding industries.
Derfor er det meget nødvendigt, at vi får denne OECD-aftale på plads.
And, if the other signatories have reservations about it, why do you think that is?
Rönnholm aftalen ikke er trådt i kraft for alle.
Van Miert agreement in the United States because the European Union has unilaterally made that country a gift?
Det er også klart, at det betyder meget for skibsbygningsindustrien, hvor der anskaffes dyre kapitalkrævende aktiver, og hvor leveringstiderne er lange, at valutakurspolitikken er tilrettelagt således, at den hverken indeholder konkurrencefordele i form af en for lav valutakurs eller konkurrenceskadende elementer, der skyldes, at valutakursen viser sig at være for høj.
This means, ladies and gentlemen, that those shipyards which are determined to modernize, which apply the results of research and develop ment and which seek out market niches where they are competitive, will survive.
Også af denne grund er det vigtigt at fremme disse foranstaltninger, så valutakursforholdene i Euro pa kan stabiliseres og konkurrencefordrejningen forsvinde.
Those that do not, unfortunately, in the European Union and elsewhere, will be in danger of closure.
Kommissionen modsatte sig dette, for hvis vi ikke forlænger det 7. direktiv, vil USA kunne bestride nødvendig heden af at ratificere aftalen, eftersom Den Europæiske Union i så fald ensidigt afskaffer sin støtte.
Nevertheless, this compromise is based on a sound objective, which is to eliminate national aids to shipbuilding in all the signatory countries, with the exception of certain types of aid, notably for research and development, accompanying social measures, and so on.
Kommissionen har advaret imod dette, og har anbefalet, at man forlængede det 7. direktiv.
Our priority in the negotiations was to ensure the European Union's ability to modernize its shipyards.
Rådet er til sidst gået med til at forlænge direktivet for en periode på ni måneder.
This is why, in particular, aid for research and development has been maintained. We have good reasons for that.
Produktudvikling er både til fordel for værfterne, transportørerne og alle andre.
Fundamentally, therefore, we believe that this is a balanced agreement, and consequently that it is in the European Union's interests to ratify it.
USA ikke ratificerer aftalen, vil det 7. direktiv blive forlænget indtil oktober måned.
This subject is not covered by the agreement, however.
Hvis man i maj måned konstaterer, at der kun er ringe chancer for, at OECD-aftalen træder i kraft, vil tidspunktet være kommet til at tage spørgsmålet op til fornyet overvejelse.
Indeed, private investors will still be able to invest in privately owned shipyards.
Jeg har opnået tilsagn fra Rådet om, at spørgsmålet da ville komme på dagsordenen, for at vi i tide kan drøfte i Rådet og dernæst sandsynligvis sammen med Europa-Parlamentet, hvad der bør ske efter september måned, hvis aftalen aldrig træder i kraft.
Sir Leon Brittan, who is now in Seoul, is currently holding talks with the South Korean Government, with a view to securing assurances that it will stop increasing capacity.
Der er naturligvis blevet fremsat en række mere kritiske bemærkninger, undertiden endda en del urigtigheder, men i det store og hele glæder jeg mig over Europa-Parlamentets kommentarer, der er rettet til Kommissionen samt til Rådet, for i mellemtiden er spørgsmålet blevet behandlet grundigt i Rådet.
The Commission is well aware of the problem, and is discussing it in bilateral contacts, in an endeavour to persuade the South Korean Government to take action.
I USA er det måske lidt mere kompliceret, men også der er chancen, for at aftalen ratificeres, større end for at det ikke sker.
Some of the comments made in this debate seem to be based on misunderstandings.
Jeg tror derfor på. at aftalen bliver ratificeret. Det vil betyde, at de værfter, der fast og beslutsomt satser på modernisering, forskning og udvikling og på at forsøge at finde nicher, hvor de er konkurrencedygtige, vil overleve.
What, in fact, is the reason for our course of action?
De øvrige risikerer desværre at forsvinde, her som andre steder.
That is what the Commission has proposed.
Jeg skal for det første minde om, at aftalen er blevet til på grundlag af langvarige forhandlinger.
For the rest, a number of Members have expressed the doubt that all the parties will implement the agreement.
Når aftalen er kommet i stand, er det fordi alle parter var overbevist om, at det var i den europæiske skibsbygningssektors interesse.
The House will be aware that even within the European Union — and Mr Sindal and other speakers referred to this — there has always been cheating.
Og når andre tøver, fru García Arias, hvad tror De så, det skyldes?
Let us be honest with each other.
Er det fordi, vi er i det gavmilde hjørne?
The various Member States have always attempted to cheat a little — and. in some instances, a lot.
Hør nu her, så naive er vi ikke.
The Commission has been obliged to respond accordingly.
De går ud fra, at fordi der er vanskeligheder med USA's ratificering, så er det fordi vi ensidigt forærer USA gaver.
That is why the directive was drawn up to set limits and allow the Commission to supervise compliance with the rules as effectively as possible.
Sir Leon, der nu er i Seoul, er i gang med forhandlinger med den sydkoreanske regering for at opnå en række garantier for. at sydkoreanerne ophører med at udvide kapaciteten.
The Commission opposed such a move, on the grounds that if we did not extend the Seventh Directive, the United States could respond by contesting the need to ratify the OECD agreement, since the European Union would be eliminating its aids unilaterally.
For vi oplever stadig en overkapacitet på verdensplan, og det er en rigtig dårlig idé at fortsætte med at øge kapaciteten.
The Commission argued against this course of action and in favour of extending the Seventh Directive.
Sagen er den, at alle eller næsten alle har problemer på den ene eller den anden måde, og at aftalen er vanskelig for alle. da den udgør et kompromis.
I can assure the House, however, that just as it is vigilant at Community level, the Commission will be as vigilant as possible at international level.
Hvad der især interesserede os på vegne af Den Europæiske Union var, at vi fik mulighed for at modernisere skibsværfterne.
And if any of our partners fail to implement the agreement in good faith, clauses are included which enable the issue to be put back on the agenda.
Det er bl.a. derfor, at støtten til forskning og udvikling er blevet opretholdt. Vi havde gode grunde hertil.
We shall therefore be far from defenceless in the face of less than correct behaviour by our partners in the agreement.
Vi mener derfor på den baggrund, at aftalen er afbalanceret, og at Den Europæiske Union har en interesse i at ratificere den.
I — and Sir Leon with me — promise to remain absolutely vigilant.
I øvrigt er der flere talere, der har stillet spørgsmålet, om det er sikkert, at alle parter vil overholde aftalen?
Let it be quite clear that if in March, for example, the agreement has been ratified by all parties and comes into force, then the Seventh Directive will be terminated and the agree ment will apply.
Som bekendt har der altid fundet et vist snyderi sted internt i Den Europæiske Union — hr. Sindal og andre var inde på det. Lad os være ærlige.
If, however, the United States fails to ratify the agreement, for example, then the Seventh Directive will remain in force until October.
Blandt medlemsstaterne har man altid forsøgt at snyde en lille smule, og undertiden måske lidt vel meget. Og Kommissionen har måttet gribe ind.
If in March it is clear that there is little chance of the agreement entering into force, then it will be time to discuss the issue again.
Direktivet er således blevet til for at afstikke grænser og kræve af Kommissionen, at den kontrollerer overholdelsen af spillereglerne så godt som muligt. Man kan da også forvente, at problemet optræder i international sammenhæng.
I have given an undertaking to the Council to call for the issue to be put back on the agenda at that point, so that we can discuss in good time within the Council — and no doubt in cooperation with the European Parliament — what to do after September, if the agreement is not going to come into force.
Vi er naturligvis ikke naive.
As regards the aid rate, in the context of the extension of the Seventh Directive.
Det er nødvendigt, at alle ratificerer aftalen.
Parliament's Amendment No 4 seeks to maintain the 9% ceiling.
Jeg har bemærket en række misforståelser i visse indlæg. For hvorfor har vi handlet, som vi har gjort?
Furthermore, within the Council of Ministers, certain Member States insisted that I commit myself to reducing the 9% ceiling.
Vi ønsker at ratificere aftalen hurtigt uden risiko for misforståelser.
We shall discuss this again at the end of the year, with a view to deciding, in the light of the criteria normally applied, whether the 9% ceiling should be maintained or lowered slightly.
Det vil sige, at hvis vi ratificerer aftalen inden årets udgang, og Korea, Japan og USA gør det lidt senere — Sir Leon er i øvrigt i dag i Seoul for at forsøge at overbevise koreanerne om at gøre det hurtigt — løber vi ingen risiko, da aftalen først træder i kraft, når den sidste Signatar har ratificeret den.
I would like to believe, however, that the agreement will enter into force, even if there are a few additional hold-ups — and I am thinking of Japan, for example, where I was last week with Mr Jarzembowski and a number of other Members of Parliament, and where I had the impression that the authorities simply need more time, and that the agreement will most probably be ratified at the beginning of next year.
Vi har ligeledes sagt, at det 7. direktiv vil være gældende, så længe
Matters are perhaps a little more complicated in the United States; in that country too, however, there is more chance of the agreement being ratified than not. 1 take the view, therefore.
Hvad jeg kan sige er. at såvel uden for som inden for Unionen vil vi være så årvåsne som overhovedet muligt.
As far as the other amendments are concerned. I personally have no objections to them, in terms of principle or substance.
Hvis vi
In my view, there-
Van Miert mener oprigtig talt, at ændringsforslag I omhandler et forhold, der allerede er indeholdt i forordningen, blot under en lidt anderledes formulering.
Van Miert fore, the incorporation of this amendment is superfluous, although 1 have no objections to it.
Vi står således ikke helt magtesløse, hvis en anden part ikke bærer sig korrekt ad.
although I wish to stress that I have no objections to its content or its substance.
(Mødet hævet kl. 18.55)
(The silling was closed at 6.55 p.m.)
Hvad angår de andre ændringsforslag, har jeg personligt ingen principielle eller indholdsmæssige indvendinger.
There is no reason to doubt, in my view, that the Council will adopt — and swiftly — the regulation on protection against the injurious pricing of vessels.
Dagsorden for næste mode: se protokollen.
[) Agenda for next silting: see Minutes
MØDET ONSDAG DEN 29. NOVEMBER 1995
SITTING OF WEDNESDAY, 29 NOVEMBER 1995
Godkendelse af protokollen Wolf
Approval of the Minutes Wolf
Associeringsaftale med Slovenien
Association agreement with Slovenia
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er forhandling under ét om:
President. — The next item is the joint debate on the following oral questions:
Formanden. — Protokollen fra mødet i går er omdelt.
— by Mrs Gredler and others, on behalf of the Group of the European Liberal.
— mundtlig forespørgsel af Bertinotti og Pettinali for GUE/ NGL­Gruppen tifRådet (B4­I2I3/95 ­ 0­0245/95) om associeringsaftalen mellem Den Europæiske Union og Slovenien:
Democratic and Reformist Party, to the Council (B4-1211 /95 - 0-0214/95) and to the Commission (B4-I212/95 - 0-0215/95) on the proposed association agreement with Slovenia;
Wolf (V). — (DE) Fru formand, som et par kolleger måske stadig husker, var jeg til stede i går og talte endog i plenum.
Wolf (V). — (DE) Madam President, as one or two of my colleagues may remember.
Men jeg glemte at skrive mig på listen.
I was here yesterday and indeed spoke in the Chamber. However.
Jeg var til stede i går, og jeg vil gerne, at det føres til protokols.
I was present yesterday, and I should like that to be recorded in the Minutes.
Formanden. — Udmærket hr. Wolf, det vil blive ordnet.
President. — Very well, Mr Wolf, we will do so.
Formanden ge for udviklingen af forbindelserne mellem Unionen og Slovenien.
President not recognize the efforts made by Slovenia to change the constitution and introduces the kind of political conditionality that is not helpful to relations between the Union and Slovenia.
— mundtlige forespørgsler af Caligaris og Canòre d'Encaus­se for UPE­Gruppen til Rådet ΓΒ4­1345/95 ­ 0­0263/95) og til Kommissionen (B4­1346/95 ­ 0­0264/95) om associeringsaftalen med Den Europæiske Union og Slove­nien;
— by Mrs Hoff and others, on behalf of the Group of the Party of European Socialists, to the Council (B4-1219/95 - 0-0259/95) and to the Commission (B4-1220/95 -0-0260/95) on the association agreement with Slovenia;
— mundtlige forespørgsler af Aelvoet og Tantino for V­Gruppen til Rådet" (B4­1425/95 ­ 0­0268/95) og til Kommissionen (B4­1426/95 ­ 0­0269/95) om associe­ringsaftalen mellem Den Europæiske Union og Slovenien.
— by Mr Caligaris and Mrs Carrère d'Encausse, on behalf of the Union for Europe Group, to the Council (B4-1345/95 - 0-0263/95) and to the Commission (B4-1346/95 -0-0264/95) on the association agreement with Slovenia:
Jeg vil desuden understrege — og jeg henvender mig her til dem. der i Italien spiller på de nationalistiske strenge af valgtaktiske grunde — at associeringsaftalen i realiteten er til gavn for hele det italienske grænseområde: grænsebyen Trieste vil kun have fordel af tættere økonomiske forbindelser mellem Den Europæiske Union og Slovenien.
I wish further to stress — and I am addressing here those in my country who play on nationalism for electoral purposes — that the association agreement is in fact worthwhile for the whole of the region bordering on Slovenia: Trieste, a frontier city, will derive only benefits from stronger economic relations between the European Union and Slovenia.
Dette blot for at nævne nogle få ud af mange grunde til at indgå aftalen så hurtigt som muligt.
Those are just some obvious reasons why an agreement needs to be reached as soon as possible.
Slovenien er udviklingsmæssigt længere fremme end mange andre tredjelande, som vi har indgået aftaler med på en lang række områder.
Slovenia's level of development is higher than that of so many other third countries with which we have signed agreements in all fields.
Desuden vil jeg også gerne minde om Sloveniens optræden i forbindelse med krigen i det tidligere Jugoslavien, som landet trak sig ud af, da det ikke ville bidrage til den type opgør.
Moreover, I think that we have also to bear in mind the role played by Slovenia in the war in the former Yugoslavia: it kept out of the war, not wanting to foment that kind of clash.
Til sidst vil jeg sige, at Europa­Parlamentet bør fremme sådanne positive tiltag og ikke acceptere vetoer af nationalis­tisk beskaffenhed, som dem den tidligere italienske regering, regeringen Berlusconi, har nedlagt, og som regeringen Dini har opretholdt og ikke har hverken styrke eller mod til at lade falde.
In conclusion. I believe that the House should encourage these positive moves and not endorse vetoes triggered by national ism, as issued by my country's previous government, the Berlusconi government, and now inherited by the Dini government that has neither the strength nor the courage to rescind them.
Gredler (ELDR). — (DE) Fru formand, kære kolleger, mine damer og herrer, her behandler vi et alvorligt spørgsmål, for så vidt som det i forbindelse med Slovenien drejer sig om et europæisk mønsterland.
Gredler (ELDR). - (DE) Madam President, ladies and gentlemen, we are dealing here with a serious issue, in the sense that Slovenia is a model European country.
Definitionen stammer ikke fra mig. men derimod fra Europarådet. Det drejer sig om et mønster­land med hensyn til menneskerettigheder og om et mønster­land med hensyn til mindretal.
This definition is not mine, but comes from the Council of Europe.
Vi kunne alle lære noget nyt.
We could all learn something in this respect.
Når den italienske side har bilaterale problemer, bør de efter min mening også loses bilateralt.
If the Italian side has bilateral difficulties, then in my view these should be resolved on a bilateral basis.
Der findes den såkaldte Ostino and Rome Agreement, processen er i gang og kan videreføres af disse to lande selv.
There is the Osimo and Rome Agreement, the process is under way and it can be carried forward by the two countries themselves.
Der er ikke behov for. at Den Europæiske Union inddrages.
There is no need for the European Union to become involved.
Jeg mener, at et land. som inden for så kort tid har bevist, hvor dygtigl det er. hvor demokratisk det er. og hvor godt det kunne integrere sig i den vesteuropæiske verden, egentlig fortjener vor fulde stötte.
I believe that a country which has demonstrated, in such a short period of time, how capable it is. how democratic it is. and how well it has been able to integrate into the world of Western Europe, in fact deserves to have our full support.
Slovenien har indtil nu overholdt den tidsplan, der blev aftalt i marts.
Slovenia has so far complied with the timetable that was agreed in March.
Associeringsforhandlingerne blev klaret inden før særdeles kort tid.
The negotiations on association were dealt with extremely quickly.
Tre måneder — hvor lidt tid er det til at harmonisere sig med EU!
Three months — how little time that is to bring oneself into line with the EU!
Det er egentlig en rekord, og hvad gør vi. eller hvad gør Rådet.'
That is indeed a record, and what are we, or rather the Council doing?
Den afleverer ikke sin underskrift, fordi der her er et bilateralt problem!
Its signature has not been forthcoming, because there is a bilateral problem!
Jeg er et europæisk medlem, og som sådant ønsker jeg. at man så hurtigt som muligt skriver under, for at vi kan foretage denne ratificering i de forskellige EU­lande. Jeg roser dette land. v i har brug for det. og derfor må vi ikke nu standse denne proces!
As a Member of the European Parliament, I would hope that this agreement will be signed as soon as possible, so that we can proceed with ratification in the various Member States.
Det varjo på tide. at de eksisterende vanskeligheder bringes ud af verden.
It is indeed high time that the existing difficulties were resolved.