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URBAIN. - (FR) Jeg er ikke så fortrolig med britisk humor, at jeg forstår spørgsmålet.
What I want to know is if a Member State refuses to consult them, to whom, quite simply, would they bring a com plaint?
') Se bilag »Spørgetid«
') See Annex 'Question Time'
FORMANDEN. - Spørgsmål nr. 9 af Green (H-0748/93): Om: Kontrolforanstaltninger
POLLACK offer us some real facts instead of the rather fictional information that he seems to have been given.
Hvad gør Rådet for at sikre, at den del af EF's budget, som den britiske regering anvender direkte til uddannelse af unge og erhvervsuddannelse, kontrolleres for at sikre, at kvinders, etniske minoriteters og handicappedes behov tilgodeses?
We would like your assurance - and I would like it on behalf of the people I represent - that that duty is being properly carried out on behalf of the unemployed in Tottenham, as indeed throughout the rest of the European Community.
URBAIN, formand for Rådet. - (FR) Rådet er ikke kompetent, hvad angår medlemsstaternes anvendelse af finansiel støtte fra strukturfondene og har ingen mulighed for at føre den kontrol, det ærede parlamentsmedlem refererer til i sit spørgsmål.
URBAIN. - (FR) Although I have to maintain the answer I have just given as regards the Commission's competence and the manner in which utilization is overseen, I should like to make an amplification further to Mrs Green's supplementary question.
POLLACK (PSE). - (EN) Måske kan vi forfølge dette lidt.
URBAIN. - (FR) Mrs Pollack's supplementary question allows me in my turn to make a further amplification.
Vi er stadig ret forvirrede med hensyn til, om vi kan opfylde kvindernes, de handicappedes, de arbejdsløses og de unges behov på basis af et socialfonds-budget, som rådsformanden siger bliver udvidet, men som vore folk fortæller os bliver nedskåret.
It is precisely in order to meet the concern expressed by the European Parliament regarding the need to combat the very serious situation in which the labour market continues to find itself - a concern fully shared, moreover, by the Council - that, when the regulations concerning the introduction of the new structural funds were being adopted, it was decided that the main thrust of Community action should be directed at Objective 3.
Vi får nu at vide, at Rådet foreslår en beskæring på 19% af ESF-budgettet - hvor dan skal det på baggrund af denne nedskæring blive muligt at imødekomme behovet hos disse mennesker, og hvis rådsformanden forsøger at fortælle os, at budgettet er under udvidelse, hvorfor foreslår Rådet så en nedskæring?
As Parliament was informed at its meeting on 12 July with the Council and Commission, the latter proposes, in full agreement with the Council, that, for each year of the period from 1994 to 1999, at least 80% of the resources for Objectives 3 and 4 be allocated to Objective 3.
En nedskæring på 19% er ikke nogen udvidelse i min ordbog, og jeg er helt sikker på, at det heller ikke er det i rådsformandens. Så vil han være venlig at sige noget mere om dette og fortælle os, hvordan vi kan forventes at skulle fortælle dem derhjemme i de områder, hvor der er arbejdsløshed og nød, at Den Europæiske Socialfond faktisk imødekommer deres behov?
For the 1989-1993 period, and where the special groups mentioned by the honourable Member, ethnic minorities, disabled persons or women are concerned, account has to be taken of the guidelines concerning Objective 3 (combating long-term unemployment) and Objective 4 (getting young people started in employment) drawn up by the Commission in application of the regulations govern ing structural funds.
Overvågningen af støttens anvendelse sikres desuden i henhold til artikel 25 i samordningsforordningen af Kommissionen og med lemsstaterne som led i partnerskabet.
WIJSENBEEK (LDR). - (NL) So the Ministers do not think that the money spent in Great Britain on further education or training for British workers would be money wasted?
Jeg repræsenterer her i Parlamentet en del af London, der er kendt som Tottenham, og som er berømt for sit fremragende fodboldhold, og desværre også fordi over 25% af dens voksne befolkning er uden arbejde, og fordi det har den hurtigst voksende arbejdsløshed i Det Forenede Kongerige og faktisk på mange måder i hele Fælles skabet.
In point 5G of these guidelines, the Commission made implicit reference to the employment of disabled persons and women, as also to the training of migrant workers, in the context of the actions on behalf of categories of persons who meet with special difficulties on the labour market.
Jeg vil fortælle Dem, at særdeles mange af disse 25% enten er unge, kvinder, sorte eller handicappede, og det bekymrer os meget, at Den Europæiske Socialfond ikke imødekommer deres behov.
Under the new reform of the structural funds, special attention has been given to promoting the integration of persons threatened with exclusion from the labour market, a category susceptible of comprising the groups referred to in the question. These regulations contain, moreover, more specific references to the situation of women vis-à-vis the labour market.
Lad mig fastslå, at det nationale parlament i mit land fører direkte kontrol med, hvordan regeringen og regionerne udarbejder deres forslag med henblik på at ansøge om og gøre brug af de strukturfonde, de har ret til.
How is the Council ensuring that the proportion of the British ESF budget being used directly by central government for 'Youth Training' and Training for Work' is monitored to ensure that the needs of women, ethnic minorities and disabled people are being met?
Jeg tror, at denne kurs måske kunne give parlamentsmedlemmerne, dvs. de folkevalgte, et middel til direkte kontrol med eller endog et tvangsmiddel over for regeringer, som ikke efterkommer Rådets påbud, når det, som i dette tilfælde, eftertrykkeligt har nævnt de grupper, der møder særlige vanskeligheder ved deres reintegration på arbejdsmarkedet. det.
URBAIN, President-in-Office of the Council. - (FR) The Council does not enjoy competence as regards the utilization by Member States of financial aid from the structural funds and has no possibility of carrying out the controls referred to by the honourable Member in her question.
Spørgsmål nr. 10 af Newens (H-
POLLACK (PSE). - Perhaps we can pursue this a little more.
De, hr. minister, er som rådsformand den politiker, der er ansvarlig for opsynet med gennemførelsen af aktiviteter i Fællesskabet.
We are still very confused as to how we can meet the needs of the women, the disabled, the unemployed, the young, from an ESF budget which the President-in-Office says is being expanded but which our people are telling us is being cut.
Det er for lidt at sige, at dette er Kommissionens ansvar.
We are being told that the Council is proposing a cut of 19% in the ESF budget.
Ja, naturligvis er det Kommissionen, der udfører aktiviteterne, men Rådet har pligt til at sørge for, at det bliver gjort ordentligt.
A 19% cut is not an expansion in the language I understand and I am quite sure that it is not an expansion in the language that the President-in-Office understands.
Vi vil gerne have en forsikring fra Dem om - og det vil jeg gerne have på vegne af de mennesker, jeg repræsenterer - at denne forpligtelse udføres ordentligt på vegne af de arbejdsløse i Tottenham og i hele resten af Fællesskabet.
So could he please amplify this for us and tell us how we can expect to be able to tell our people back home in our areas of unemployment and deprivation that the European Social Fund is actually meeting their needs.
URBAIN. - (FR) Selv om jeg fastholder det svar, jeg netop har afgivet med hensyn til Kommissionens kompetence, og den måde, hvorpå opfølgningen af gennemførelsen heraf sikres, skal jeg gerne komme med en præcisering på baggrund af fru Greens tillægsspørgsmål.
I represent in this House a part of London known as Tottenham which is famous for its excellent football team and, less happily, for the fact that over 25% of its adult population is unemployed and that it has the fastest growing unemployment rate in the United Kingdom and, indeed, in many ways throughout the European Com munity.
Hvilket råd agter Rådet at give Kommissionen med hensyn til fastlæggelsen af objektive kriterier til bedømmelse af »begrundede anmodninger« fra med lemsstaterne om støtte til regioner under det nye mål nr. 2?
I would say to you that very many of those 25% are either young, women, black or disabled and we are very concerned that their needs are not being met by the ESF.
I perioden 1989-1993 og hvad angår de særlige grupper, som det ærede parlamentsmedlem har nævnt, dvs. etniske minoriteter, handicappede og kvinder, må der tages hensyn til de retningslinjer for mål nr. 3 (bekæmpelse af langtidsledighed) og 4 (integration af unge på arbejdsmarkedet), som Kommissionen opstillede under gennem førelsen af strukturfondsforordningerne.
URBAIN. - (FR) I would point out, Mr President, that under the terms of the decisions taken in July by the Council - following, as a matter of fact, consultation with the European Parliament, which I should here like to thank for having agreed to deal with this dossier within the time-limits requested, having regard to its implications for economic revival - under the terms, as I was saying, of the arrangements adopted by the Council, it is laid down that the Council does not enjoy competence as regards the utilization of financial aid from structural funds and has no way of carrying out the controls to which various speakers have aliuded.
Kan rådsformanden venligst gøre det klart, at der vil blive givet støtte til strukturfondene under mål nr. 2 til byområder, hvis de er støtteberettigede? De mennesker, vi kommer her for at repræsentere, vil ikke betragte os som nyttige for demo-
You, Minister, in your role as President-in-Office, are the politician responsible for overseeing the operation of the activities of the European Community.
Forordninger ne indeholder desuden mere specifikke henvisninger til kvindernes situation på arbejdsmarkedet.
I should like to mention that, as far as my own country is concerned, the national parliament exercises a direct
kratiet, hvis ikke vi kan besvare deres spørgsmål om dette.
PRESIDENT. - Question No 11 by Mrs Dury (H0793/93)
På dette grundlag vil jeg indstændigt anmode rådsformanden om at give os et meget direkte svar.
Subject: Secret section on Corn Gluten Feed annexed to the Blair House agreement
Under de nuværende omstændigheder og på det niveau, som høringerne mellem medlemsstaterne har nået under det belgiske formandskabs ægide, kan man derfor umuligt forudsige, hvordan situationen er på mandag.
Is the Council aware of a secret clause on Corn Gluten Feed, negotiated by EC Commissioners Andriessen and MacSharry with the US Administration, and annexed to the Blair House preliminary agreement on oleaginous products?
Utvivlsomt er dette møde særlig vigtigt under to uger før en anden samling i Rådet (almindelige anliggender) den 4. -5. oktober.
If so, what is the substance of this 'arrangement'?
Jeg vil derfor sige til det ærede parlamentsmedlem, at det var Rådets ansvar og henhørte under dets kompetence at fastlægge kriterierne, og at det forholder sig ganske anderledes med de finansielle midler.
control on the manner in which the government, in which the regions prepare their proposals with a view to having recourse to the structural funds for which they are eligible and to their utilization.
Kriterierne er for det første ledighedsprocenten, som skal ligge over EF-gennemsnittet for de seneste tre år, for det andet en procentdel af beskæftigelsen inden for industrien i forhold til den samlede beskæftigelse, som modsvarer eller er højere end EF-gennemsnittet for hvert referenceår efter 1975, og for det tredje en konstateret nedgang i beskæftigelsen inden for industrien i forhold til referenceåret for det førnævnte kriterium.
I believe that this could perhaps be a path to follow so that parliamentarians, that is to say the elected Members, might have a means of direct control, of coercion even, vis-à-vis governments that failed to accede to the express wishes of the Council when it mentioned by name, as it has done, those groups encountering special difficulties as regards their re-entry onto the labour market.
FORMANDEN. - Spørgsmål nr. 11 af Dury (H-0793/ 93):
PRESIDENT. - Question No 10 by Mr Newens (H0749/93)
Om: Hemmeligt bilag til Blair Houseaftalen om Corn Gluten Feed
Subject: Objective 2
En hel del medlemmer har siden været meget kritiske over for Blair House, selv om de var til stede eller i det mindste stod på deltagerlisten for den dag. Jeg har visse forbehold over for Blair Houseaftalen, der mere drejer sig om oksekødet end om Corn Gluten Feed.
URBAIN, President-in-Office of the Council. - (FR) The Council has been informed by the Commission of the Blair House preliminary agreement, including the corn gluten feed clause.
Men jeg stillede et spørgsmål til Rådet for ca. et halvt år siden: Har de fremskaffet tal, der viser, at Blair Houseaftalen om GATT ville gå ud over bestemmelser ne i reformen af den fælles landbrugspolitik?
The Council can assure the honourable Member, and the Commission could confirm this, that there is no secret clause in that preliminary agreement.
Har Rådet kendskab til et hemmeligt bilag om Corn Gluten Feed, om hvilket kommissionsmedlemmerne Andriessen og MacSharry har forhandlet med de amerikanske repræsentanter i tilknytning til Blair Houseaftalen om olieholdige produkter?
URBAIN, President-in-Office of the Council. - (FR) The solution adopted by the Council as regards the selection criteria for regions to be included in the new Objective 2, to which the honourable Member refers in his question, is explicitly set out in Article 9(2) of the framework regulation adopted by the Council on 20 July 1993.
Hvad er i bekræftende fald indholdet af denne »ordning«? ning«?
DURY (PSE). - (FR) There has never been an official denial by the Commission regarding these assertions.
Med hensyn til spørgsmålet om Corn Gluten Feed må jeg sige, at de, der importerer dette, er Fællesskabets land brugere gennem deres egne andelsforeninger.
URBAIN. - (FR) I have many different thoughts about this problem.
Det er det uheldige ved det.
I am not the only one.
De, der er mest kritiske, og sikkert nogle af dem, der stod blokadevagt uden for Paris i dag, er sandsynligvis også med i andelsforeninger, der importerer Corn Gluten Feed, som skader deres egne landbrugere.
It so happens that the Jumbo Council of next Monday, at which the General Affairs Council and the Agriculture Council will meet, is going to have the especially delicate task of eliciting a consensus from positions that appear singularly divergent or, at least - if I may use the language of diplomacy - that do not afford many elements of convergence.
Jeg tror, vi må få orden på vort eget landbrug, før vi hidser os alt for meget op over dette problem med Corn Gluten Feed. Hvis vi som landbrugere nægter at gå med til Corn Gluten Feed, så bliver der ikke importeret noget fra De Forenede Stater.
However, it would be the worst possible thing for us not to present a united front towards the outside world on what is a section of a dossier of the overall negotiation, and this on the threshold of the last three months of negotiations, 15 December being put forward as a possible date.
URBAIN, formand for Rådet. - (FR) Kommissionen har underrettet Rådet om den foreløbige Blair House-aftale, herunder aspektet vedrørende Corn Gluten Feed.
NEWENS (PSE). - Will the President-in-Office recognize the fact that there are today unprecedentedly high levels of unemployment, deprivation and improverishment in once prosperous urban areas such as my Honour able Friend Pauline Green's area in Tottenham?
Rådet kan forsikre det ærede parlamentsmedlem om - og Kommissionen kan bekræfte dette - at der ikke eksisterer noget hemmeligt bilag til denne foreløbige aftale.
Can the President-in-Office please make it clear that support will be given for grants from the structural funds under Objective 2 for urban areas if they are eligible?
URBAIN. - (FR) Det ærede parlamentsmedlem behøver ikke tale længe for at overbevise mig om, hvor vigtigt dette problem er både for landbrugsverdenen og forhand lingerne i Uruguay-Runden.
The people we come here to represent will not regard us as being useful to democracy unless we can answer their questions on this particular matter. On this basis I plead with the President-in-Office to give us a very straight reply.
Men i dag er Paris blevet afspærret af demonstrerende franske landbrugere, som sætter spørgsmålstegn ved Blair Houseaftalen.
It is certain that this meeting is especially important at less than two weeks away from another General Affairs Council scheduled for 4 and 5 October.
Må jeg spørge formanden og det belgiske formandskab, hvad de mener om det franske krav om genforhandling af Blair Houseaftalen, om den spanske og irske regerings støtte, og om Europa trods alt ikke har grund til igen at blive lidt mere dynamiske og stærkere over for amerikanerne.
I should like to ask the honourable Member to understand that, in the present state of things, it is impossible for me to put out an opinion or guidance in my capacity as Council President, even if, as a Belgian MP or Minister, I have a certain idea on this point which is, perhaps, not so very far away from that of Mrs Dury.
Med hensyn til det, der er blevet kaldt den foreløbige Blair House-aftale, er det korrekt, at det på intet tidspunkt er påvist, at Blair Houseaftalen er forenelig med den fælles landbrugspolitik.
I shall therefore tell the honourable Member that the responsibility, the competence of the Council consisted in establishing the criteria and the financial resources - that is something else.
En sådan påvisning ville utvivlsomt have været nødvendig, hvis sagen var endt på Rådets bord, for at det - hvad enten det er Rådet (landbrug) eller Rådet (almindelige anliggender) - skulle træffe afgørelse om behandlingen af GATT-problemet.
It is by applying the criteria that certain regions have been designated. So, if the region referred to by the honourable Member meets the criteria that I shall enumerate, there is no reason - no apparent reason anyway - for the Commission not to include it among the eligible regions.
Det gjorde den ikke på noget tidspunkt. Ifølge de oplysninger, der er indsamlet ved forberedelsen af »Jumborådet« mandag den 20., skulle aftalen kunne være forenelig med den fælles landbrugspolitik, såfremt en række parametre var til stede, hvilket vi må erkende er usikkert.
These criteria are: first, the unemployment level, which must be above the Community average recorded over the past three years; second, a percentage of jobs in industry in relation to total jobs that is equal to or higher than the Community average for each reference year since 1975 and, third, a decline in industrial employment in relation to the refer ence year adopted for the previous criterion.
Derfor havde Rådet (landbrug) gentagne gange påpeget, at der ikke kunne herske tvivl om, at indholdet i den foreløbige Blair House-aftale overstiger de bestræbelser,
I would point out that the eligible zones are regions or frontier regions or parts of regions, including industrial zones or urban communities, that have to meet each of the three criteria I have just mentioned and not just one or other of them.
URBAIN. - (FR) Jeg tænker meget over dette problem.
LANE (RDE). - I thank the President-in-Office for his reply.
Jeg er ikke den eneste.
Unfortunately only about seven or eight Members took part in that debate on that day.
Det er sådan, at »Jumborådet« på næste mandag, hvor Rådet (almindelige anliggender) og Rådet (landbrug) samles, har den meget vanskelige opgave at bringe enighed i meninger, som forekommer yderst divergerende, eller som i hvert fald - hvis jeg må have lov til at udtrykke mig diplomatisk - ikke indeholder mange fælles elementer.
Quite a number of Members have been very critical of Blair House since, even though they were present, or were at least signed on the register, on that day.
Det vil uden tvivl være et af nøglepunkterne for »Jumborådet« den 20. september.
Question No 12 will be answered in writing. (')
Er det ikke rigtigt, at den almindelige opfattelse er, at Rådet opererer i hemmelig hed og styres af embedsmændene?
Question No 13 by Mr Titley (H-0830/93) Subject: A. Clark's reference to Council
MAHER (LDR). - (EN) Kan rådsformanden give Parlamentet en forsikring om, at dette spørgsmål ikke er afsluttet; med andre ord, at det stadig er muligt ved forhandling at genvinde noget af det terræn, der er blevet afgivet under Andriessen/MacSharry-forhandlingerne?
Is the Council aware of the recently published diaries of Mr Alan Clark, former Minister and member of the Council, in which he states: asked a question of the Council about six months ago: have they produced figures which show that the Blair House agreement on GATT would go beyond the terms of the reform of the common agricultural policy?
Hvis han kan gøre det, vil det bestemt berolige os meget.
I have still not been given those figures.
Er dette et forsøg på at kaste brønden til, når barnet er druknet?
I hope that the Council will at least come out into the open about this.
Vist var det en dårlig aftale.
None of us want to see anything secret.
Mange medlemmer af Parlamentet, som dengang stemte for den, sætter nu spørgsmålstegn ved den.
'everything is decided, horse-traded off, by officials at COREPER, the Council of Permanent Representatives.
Det er sikkert derfor, det blev stillet.
That is the unfortunate part.
De spørger mig, om det er muligt at genforhandle dette punkt for at anvende et udtryk, der i de seneste uger er gledet ud af EF-instansernes ordforråd.
The people who criticise most, and probably some of the people who were on the picket line outside Paris today, are probably also involved in cooperative societies that are importing corn gluten which is doing damage to their own farmers.
Jeg ved ikke, om modparten i denne foreløbige aftale er villig til genforhandling.
I think we have got to get our agricultural house in order before we get all hot and bothered about this particular issue of corn gluten.
Men jeg skal stille Dem et andet spørgsmål: Ønsker De Tolv genforhandling?
If we as farmers refuse to accept com gluten then none will be imported from the United States.
FORMANDEN. - Da spørgeren ikke er til stede, vil spørgsmål nr. 12 blive besvaret skriftligt. (')
URBAIN, President-in-Office of the Council. - (FR) I wish first of all to point out that, in this context, the Council's action is based entirely on the provisions of the Treaty establishing the European Community and that its decisions are in consequence clothed in the strictest legality.
Spørgsmål nr. 13 af Titley (H-0830/93): Om: A. Clarks omtale af rådsmøderne
URBAIN. - (FR) The honourable Member needs no lengthy argument to convince me of the importance of this problem, on the one hand for the agricultural world and, on the other, for the problems surrounding the Uruguay Round negotiations.
Den bedste måde at afvise sådanne påstande på, er da ved at gøre alt åbent.
It is not, you see, customary for the Council to adopt a position on allegations made outside of its meetings by persons who do not belong or who no longer belong to its bodies.
Agter Rådet at tage nogen initiativer i forbindelse med disse beskyldninger, som et af dens tidligere medlemmer har fremsat?
I would simply point out that, under the terms of the Treaty, COREPER prepares work for the Council and carries out the tasks entrusted to it by the latter, but that, given the conditions and limits laid down by the Treaties, it is for the Council itself to take decisions.
Har Rådet kendskab til den dagbog, som tidligere minister og medlem af Rådet, Alan Clark, offentlig gjorde for nylig, og hvori man bl.a. kan læse:
As regards what is known as the Blair House preliminary agreement, it is true that at no time has the compatibility of the latter with the CAP been demonstrated.