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Jeg takker Dem, hr. formand, for Deres overbærenhed med mit tidsforbrug og anmoder Dem, mine damer og herrer, om at manifestere Deres vilje til at afvise denne dårlige aftale.
Schnellhardt (PPE). - (DE) Mr President, Commissioner, yet again the European Parliament is being called upon to comment on the problems of leghold traps.
Jeg vil geme henlede Kommissionens opmærksomhed på forhandlingen her i Parlamentet den 21. februar i år, hvor der blev givet udtryk for en hel del følelser om dette emne.
However, the draft has its shortcomings, even though, we might be tempted to welcome the fact that after years of negotiation and deadlock a draft does actually exist.
En eventuel nødvendig forkastelse af aftalen og indførelsen af et europæiske forbud mod import af skind skader den europæiske pelsindustri og navnlig de oprindelige folk i Canada, som nu engang tjener til livets ophold gennem pelshandel.
If it proves necessary to reject the agreement and introduce a Euro pean ban on imports of skins, that will damage the European fur industry and, especially, the indigenous peoples in Canada who earn their living as traders in skins.
Den, der kender mig, ved, at jeg altid har taget disse argumenter særlig alvorligt.
Anyone who knows me will know that I have always taken these arguments particularly seriously.
Dyrevelfærd og mange oprindelige folks bæredygtige levevis og arbejdsmåde udelukker - efter min opfattelse - ikke hinanden, men supplerer derimod hinanden.
Animal welfare, in my view, is not incompatible with sustaining the way of life and livelihood of many indigenous peoples -indeed, I believe they are mutually complementary.
Det må være vort fælles mål at bringe interesserne i forbindelse med dyrevelfærd og de oprindelige folks berettigede interesser i overensstemmelse.
Our common aim must be to strike a balance between the needs of animal welfare and the justified interests of indigenous peoples.
Min gruppe støtter endnu en gang hr. Pimentas fremragende betænkning fuldt ud, og den fik også støtte fra et stort flertal i Udvalget om Miljø- og Sundhedsanliggender og Forbrugerbeskyttelse.
After a long series of obstacles and uncertainties, an international agreement on humane trapping standards was reached last December between the European Community, Canada and the Russian Federation.
Denne utilstrækkelige og uigennemførlige lappeløsning af en aftale er så fuld af huller, at en flok isbjørne kan slippe igennem.
The agreement was the result of major efforts by Canada and Russia, but it did not satisfy the Council, which asked for a series of improvements.
Den sætter ikke en stopper for dyremishandling i form af fastholdende fælder, faktisk tillades brugen af disse fælder i endnu fire år.
As Mr Pimenta did not consider the text satisfactory, we find ourselves faced with a report which is ahead of its time, which contests an agreement the Council has not really approved yet.
Aftalen afspejler ikke en gang holdningen hos Den Euro pæiske Unions egne eksperter.
Our group therefore believes the agreement reached should not be rejected.
Jeg mener, at hvis man havde inddraget repræsentanterne for de oprindelige folk, havde man hurtigt opnået et resultat.
I believe that a result could have been rapidly achieved here if the representatives of the indigenous peoples had been involved in the negotiations.
Vi har nu nogle fælder, der er en smule polstrede, og så påstår man, at de er humane.
Eisma (ELDR). - (NL) Mr President, it seems as if the debate on leghold traps will never finish.
Jeg går ud fra, at det ikke gør så ondt at bide sit eget ben af, hvis man er fanget i en af disse fælder.
I could easily repeat what I said a year ago and two years ago.
Vi har en godkendelse af fælder, som tager fem minutter om at slå dyret ihjel, og disse fælder fanger naturligvis stadigvæk 20 % af de arter, man ikke er ude efter; men det er bare ærgerligt for disse dyr, for det var slet ikke meningen, at de overhovedet skulle have været fanget.
But one thing is certain: commercial interests are more important as far as the Commission is concerned than the wellbeing of animals and democratic principles.
Vi har fastholdende fælder, der kan brages under vand, og disse formodes ikke at være dyrplageri længere.
Along with a large majority of the ELDR Group, I think that it is quite deplorable that the Commission should not have kept to its word and is now imposing an optional agreement on trapping methods.
Skulle forslaget til aftale blive forkastet, skal der forhandles videre på grundlag af disse synspunkter.
That is tantamount to emptying Euro pean democracy of all meaning since there was a Council regulation dating to 1991 and we wanted to stick to it.
Endvidere findes der forudsætninger for selvstændige afsætningskanaler.
Your commercial interests have won the day over Mrs Bjerregaard's animal welfare.
Der er blevet sagt meget om de indfødte befolkningers rettigheder, navnlig fra den canadiske regerings side, men i selve aftalen tales der kun i meget tågede vendinger om disse befolkningers deltagelse i forhandlinger.
Should the draft of the agreement be rejected, these points must be borne in mind during further negotiations.
Aftalen med Rusland er ikke en gang det papir værd, den er skrevet på. Den vil kun blive gennemført, hvis vi punger ud med en masse penge.
Following my contacts with representatives of indigenous peoples in Canada - and I did have such contacts, Mr Pimenta - I know that leghold traps must be abandoned; indeed, they are being abandoned in Canada.
Fristen synes at være forsvundet i et sort hul, og der er ingen gennemførelsesforanstaltninger eller sanktioner for manglende overholdelse.
In addition, the right conditions exist for independent marketing channels.
På lang sigt skal oprindelige pelsjægere og dyreværnsorganisationer imidlertid arbejde tæt sammen med henblik på at finde nye, humane fangstmetoder, og de skal begge inddrages.
But, in the long term, indigenous trappers and animal welfare organizations must work closely together and be jointly involved in the search for new, humane trapping methods.
Erstatningen af rævesakse er den hovedopgave, som vi vil stå over for i de kommende år, også uden en rammeaftale. Problemet kunne også løses ved at forbedre fældernes selektivitet, dvs. der skal udvikles fælder, hvor med der kun kan fanges bestemte dyr.
Finding a substitute for leghold traps is the main task that will confront us in the coming years, even without a framework agreement.
Dette kræver naturligvis også, at pelsjægerne får en bedre uddannelse.
This, of course, means providing trappers with better training.
Også her kan jeg igen kun indtrængende anbefale, at man gør brag af de oprindelige pelsjægeres erfaring.
Here again, and once again, I can only urge the advisability of taking advantage of the experience of the indigenous trappers.
Afslutningsvis kun lige et spørgsmål til Kommissionen: Hvor dan forholder det sig med forbuddet mod rævesakse i Den Europæiske Union?
Finally, there is one more question I would like to put to the Commissioner: what is the status of the ban on leghold traps in the European Union?
Ifølge mine oplysninger stilles de op få kilometer herfra, hvorfor, ved jeg ikke.
According to my information such traps are being laid only a few miles from where we sit - I don't know why.
Havde denne kendsgerning indflydelse på grundlaget for Kommissionens forhandlinger med de pågældende lande?
Did this fact influence the basis for the Commission's negotiations with the countries concerned?
Vi kunne fortsætte med en detaljeret kritik af aftalen, men det er simpelthen for nedslående.
Try catching your finger in a car door - whether it has a rubber lining or not, it will still hurt just as much.
Det eneste fornuftige er at afvise den og vende tilbage til den lovgivning, som vi allerede er blevet enige om her' i Parlamentet, og som let kan forsvares, hvis Canada skulle ønske at indbringe sagen for WTO.
And if an animal has to endure its death in agony and die a dreadful death in a trap that we describe as humane, that makes no difference to the animal.
Der kan for eksempel ikke påvises nogen uberettiget handelsfördel for Den Europæiske Union, og eftersom den vigtigste drivkraft bag lovgivningen er dyrs velfærd, kan de nemt forsvares som en beskyttelse af den offentlige moral.
In any case, an animal will be unable to read where it says that a trap is suitable for this or that particular animal, and if it is a protected species, it won't be able to read that either.
Malerba (UPE). - (LT) Hr. formand, hr. kommissær, for det første vil jeg sige, at jeg tager ordet for fru Baldi, som ikke har kunnet være til stede her i aften, men som har givet mig sine noter vedrørende denne sag.
But what I find most incredible of all is this sentence, which I quote verbatim from the Official Journal: 'The welfare of animals will temporarily be reduced to a very low level in killing traps.'
Personlig vil jeg kun give udtryk for min sympati for hr. Pimenta, der lægger så meget engagement i disse sager.
Do you believe in resurrection?
Jeg opfordrer Kommissionen til at forhandle sig frem til en skrappere aftale og forbyde salget i Den Europæiske Union af pelse fra dyr fanget i fælder, der ikke overholder standarderne i en ny og langt skrappere international aftale.
Malerba (UPE). - (IT) Mr President, Mr Commissioner, first of all I want to explain that I am speaking on behalf of Mrs Baldi, who could not be here this evening and has given me her notes, because she has followed this dossier.
Malerba og frabeder os sådanne kyniske anliggender.
Are you trying to make fools of us by publishing staff like this in the Official Journal?
Jeg anser det for at være en frækhed.
This is a total mockery of animal welfare as a whole.
Først ser De bort fra forordninger, fra Parlamentets ønsker, det er en latterliggørelse af demokratiet, og derpå tillader De Dem så sådanne dokumenter.
I regard it as an insult. First you overrule regulations and the wishes of Parliament, making a mockery of democracy, and then you have the effrontery to publish material like this.
Efter en lang række forhindringer og usikre perioder nåede man i december sidste år frem til en international aftale om standarder for human fældefangst mellem Det Europæiske Fællesskab, Canada og den Russiske Føderation.
Elliott (PSE). - Mr President, on behalf of the Socialist Group and as president of Parliament's Inter-Group for Animal Welfare and Conservation, I want to say that I strongly support Mr Pimenta's report and hope it will be adopted by Parliament.
Aftalen, der er resultatet af en række betydelige bestræbelser fra canadisk og russisk side, tilfredsstillede ikke Rådet, der har krævet en række ændringer.
Brittan, Sir Leon, Vice-President of the Commission. -Mr President, we all understand the depth of feeling on this issue that has existed for many years.
Kommissionen har følgelig genoptaget forhandlingerne og udarbejdet et nyt forslag til aftale, der vil blive forelagt Ministerrådet om miljøforhold den 19. og 20. juni her i år.
However, what we have to ask ourselves is whether the latest agreement represents an unprecedented advance in international trap ping standards which, if adopted, will improve the welfare of animals and alleviate the threat to our relations with our Canadian and Russian partners.
Da hr. Pimenta ikke finder teksten tilfredsstillende, står vi over for en betænkning, der er forud for sin tid, og som bestrider en aftale, som Rådet i virkeligheden endnu ikke har godkendt. Ganske vist har USA ikke underskrevet aftalen, og der er derfor tale om en delvis aftale, et kompromis, men et kompromis, som ifølge fru Baldi betegner et fremskridt.
I have absolutely'no doubt whatsoever in saying that the welfare of animals will be significantly advanced if this agreement is implemented and if it is not and if a ban is imposed of a kind that the Members who have spoken in favour of it want, then nothing will be done to advance the welfare of animals, because it would be a great mistake to believe that if that were to happen the countries concerned, faced with that prospect, would simply adapt their laws and change things in the way that the Members of Parliament want.
Som følge heraf finder vor gruppe ikke, at man bør afvise den opnåede aftale.
That is wholly and totally unrealistic.
Jeg kan huske, at jeg sad her for seks, syv og otte år siden og snakkede om de samme ting.
I can remember sitting here six, seven and eight years ago, talking about these issues.
Vi troede, at vi var nået et stykke af vejen med Rådets resolution fra 1991, selv om vi blev skuffede, da der skulle gå fem år, før den blev gennemført.
We thought we had got some where when we got the Council Regulation of 1991, disappointed though we were that it was going to'be five years before it was implemented.
Nu to år efter den dato venter vi stadig på, at noget skal ske.
Now, two years after that date, we are still waiting for something to happen.
Her i juni 1997 beder Kommissionen Rådet støtte en yderst utilstrækkelig og utilfredsstillende aftale med Canada og Rusland og intet som helst med USA.
Today, in June 1997, the Commission is asking the Council to endorse a very inadequate and unsatisfactory agreement with Canada and Russia and nothing at all with the United States.
De omfattende undtagelser, man har accepteret, manglen på overbevisende gennemførelsesforanstaltninger, manglen på sanktioner for manglende overholdelse skaber alt sammen tvivl om, hvorvidt de begrænsede forpligtelser, som Rusland og Canada har indgået, i realiteten vil give noget resultat.
The substantial derogations that have been accepted, the lack of convincing enforcement measures, the lack of sanctions for non-compliance all cast doubt on whether the small commitments made by Russia and Canada will in reality achieve anything.
Eisma (ELDR). - (NL) Hr. formand, der synes ikke at komme nogen ende på denne debat om rævesaksesagen.
It is for that reason that I agree with Mr Malerba that this agreement represents significant progress.
Jeg og et overvældende flertal i ELDR-Gruppen synes, at det er overordentlig beklageligt, at Kommissionen ikke har over holdt sine aftaler og nu belemrer os med en uforpligtende aftale om disse fangstmetoder.
I am pleased to hear that yesterday the Committee on External Economic Relations adopted an opinion which clearly recommends the approval of this agreement.
Dette betyder, at foranstaltningerne overhovedet ikke be tyder nogen løsning på hele spørgsmålet om dyrenes lidelser.
This means measures fail totally to tackle the whole question of animal suffering.
Vi må afvise dem i deres nuværende form.
We must reject them as they stand.
Det ser ud til, at Kommissionen frygter et angreb via GATT for overtrædelse af frihandelsreglerne, og at WTO vil træffe en ufordelagtig afgørelse i disse spørgsmål.
It seems that the Commission fears a challenge on the GATT to freedom of trade and that there would be an adverse decision by the WTO on this issue.
Det behøver ikke gå sådan.
That need not be the case.
Når alt kommer til alt blev vi jo lovet, da Parlamentet støttede GATT-aftalen, at der ville blive taget skyldigt hensyn til beskyttelsen af miljøet og dyrs velfærd.
After all, we were promised when the GATT agreement was supported by Parliament that there would be proper provision for the protection of the environment and animal welfare.
Personligt har jeg aldrig haft den store tiltro til disse løfter, og det er også granden til, at jeg ikke stemte for GATT-aftalen.
Personally, I never put much faith in those promises, which is why I did not vote for the GATT Agreement.
Jeg mente ikke, at de var tilstrækkelige, men vi fik at vide, at det var de.
I did not think they were adequate, but we were told they were.
Hvis det er rigtigt, må vi udfordre WTO, hvis de kommer med en negativ afgørelse.
If they are, let us challenge the WTO if they give an adverse decision.
Lad os give dem en kraftig udfordring.
Let us challenge them strongly.
Hvis vi ikke kan vinde det slag, må vi overveje en reform af GATT for at sikre, at handel, uanset hvor vigtigt det er, ikke kommer til at gå forud for alle andre overvejelser som dyrs velfærd, beskyttelsen af miljøet og befolkningens velbefindende.
If we cannot win that then we must look at reform of GATT to ensure that trade, important though it is, does not take precedence over every other consideration such as animal welfare, protection of the environment and the wellbeing of our peoples.
Flemming (PPE). - (DE) Hr. formand, diskussionen om forbuddet mod rævesakse er en uendelig historie om lidelser og nød blandt dyr, menneskelig grusomhed og politisk svigt.
Flemming (PPE). - (DE) Mr President, the debate on the prohibition of leghold traps is the unending story of animal suffering, animal misery, human cruelty and political incompetence.
Endnu en gang har vi en forordning i EU, som har været i kraft siden den 1. januar 1996, og den gennemføres ganske enkelt ikke!
Once again, we have an EU regulation which has been in force since 1 January 1996 and it is simply not being implemented!
Nu får vi serveret en aftale, som ikke er nogen aftale.
Now we are served up with an agreement which is no such thing.
Rævesakse skal fortsat være tilladt i en årrække.
Leghold traps are to continue to be permitted for several years.
Døden skal først indtræde for dyrene efter 300 sekunder, dvs. 5 minutter med dødsangst, dødskamp, grusomme smerter!
Death need only occur within 300 seconds - 5 long minutes of mortal fear, death agony, appalling pain!
Aftalen indeholder heller ingen be stemmelser om, hvordan dyr, der er fanget, må dræbes.
Nor does the agreement make any provision as to how trapped animals may or may not be killed.
Mange dyr, hr. kommissær, dræbes ved knusning, idet pelsjægeren ganske enkelt står på dyret og sparker det, indtil det dør!
Many animals, Commissioner, are killed by being crashed, the trapper simply standing on the animal and treading on it until it dies.
Vi europæere ønsker ingen rævesakse, det er godt.
We Europeans want nothing to do with leghold traps, well and good.
Mest utrolig finder jeg dog det, der står i EFT om, at i den dræbende fælde vil dyrenes velbefindende forbigående falde til en meget lavt niveau.
Things have been said about the mandate and the objectives and the purposes.
Tror De på genfødsel?
It was never the intention that both alternatives should be applied.
Man skal således forestille sig, at velbefindendet i en dræbende fælde så at sige forbigående falder til et meget lavt niveau!
In the absence of any agreement on trapping standards, obviously, the implementation of the fur em bargo was provided.
Ønsker De egentlig at gøre os til grin med sådanne dokumenter i EFT?
The reason why that option was put in was because such an agreement would secure an improve ment in animal welfare, whereas a ban would totally fail to do so.
Det er ligefrem en latterliggørelse af hele dyrevelfærden.
That is why we make no apology for the fact that we have negotiated with Canada, the Russian Federation and the United States.
Vi vil støtte hr. Pimentas betænkning
Reference has been made to the United States.
Jeg håber, at Parlamentet i morgen støtter Carlos Pimenta og forkaster Kommissionens forslag. Skulle Miljøminis-
Although that is not in any way reflected in the Pimenta report, which does not in any way give any credit to the fact that after the Council of Ministers asked us to do so we continued negotiating and obtained significant improvements in the agreement with Canada and the Russian Federation.
Flemming terrådet også gøre det den 19. og 20. juni, har vi vundet.
were a ban, there would be no phasing out at all.
Gøres det ikke, er det ikke Parlamentet, der svigter, men derimod miljøministrene!
Of course the other types of leghold traps, and indeed every other mechanical trap, will also be banned accord ing to the schedule set out in the agreement if they are shown not to be in conformity with the standards.
Parterne skal gradvis afskaffe fælder, der ikke opfylder de -pågældende standarder, inden for et klart defineret tidsrum.
Traps that do not meet the standards contained will have to be phased out by the parties within a clearly defined timeframe.
Det er således langt mere omfattende end forordningen, der kun vedrører en type fælder, og hvad angår de eksterne aspekter vedrører de kun 13 arter.
Thus it is far more comprehensive than the regulation which deals with only one type of trap and covers for its external aspects only 13 species.
Dette vil begrænse dyrenes lidelser både i Unionen og i tredjelande i langt højere grad end ved et forbud.
It will relieve animal suffering, both in the Union and in third countries to a much larger extent than would be the case if a ban was imposed.
Standarden for dyrebeskyttelse er sat på et højt niveau, hvor der tages hensyn til de videnskabelige og empiriske data, der findes i øjeblikket.
The standards have been set at a high level for the protection of animals, taking into account the scientific and empirical evidence that is currently available.
At gå videre endnu kunne føre til en situation, hvor de fleste fangstmetoder, også dem, der i øjeblikket anvendes i Den Europæiske Union, ikke opfylder standarderne.
To go beyond that could lead to a situation where most trapping methods, including those currently used in the European Union, would not meet the standards.
Brittan, Sir Leon, næstformand i Kommissionen. - (EN) Hr. formand, vi forstår alle de dybe følelser, der i mange år har rørt sig om dette spørgsmål.
For the Russian Federation, conventional steel-jaw leghold restraining traps, which are the only type of leghold trap that is used in Russia, will be forbidden for Russian species by 31 December 1999 if adequate financial assistance is provided to replace existing traps.
Men vi må spørge os selv, hvorvidt den nye aftale ikke udgør et hidtil uset fremskridt i de internationale fangststandarder, som hvis den vedtages, vil forbedre dyrs velfærd og mindske truslen mod forbindelserne med vore canadiske og russiske part nere.
I hope that Parliament, concerned as it is about these matters, will use its influence to help us obtain the finance to do that.
Derfor er jeg enig med hr. Malerba i, at denne aftale udgør et betydeligt fremskridt. Jeg er glad for at høre, at Udvalget om Eksterne Økonomiske Forbindelser i går vedtog en udtalelse, hvor man klart anbefaler, at aftalen godkendes.
It is simply not true, as has been said during the debate, that if no financial assistance is provided the traps will not be replaced because there is a commitment in the agreement that if there is no financial assistance provided the traps will in any event be phased out, at the latest four years after the entry into force of the agreement.
Der blev henvist til, at dyret skal være dødt inden 300 sekunder.
Reference has been made to the killing time limit of 300 seconds.
Det ville selvfølgelig have været bedre, hvis vi havde opnået noget bedre end det.
Of course, it would have been better if we could have achieved more than that.
Men det udgør ikke desto mindre et betydningsfuldt skridt i retning af en forbedring af dræberfælderne, herunder også dem, der i øjeblikket anvendes i Fællesskabet.
But nonetheless that represents a significant step to improve killing trapping methods, including those currently used in the Community.
Det hedder endvidere i aftalen, at denne grænse på 300 sekunder skal revideres inden for 3 år med henblik på en nedsættelse til 180 sekunder.
Moreover, the agreement foresees that this 300 second limit shall be reviewed within 3 years in order to be lowered to 180 seconds.
Der skal også tages hensyn til tekniske og sikkerhedsmæssige overvejelser.
Technical and safety considerations have to be taken into account.
Hvis en fælde skal kunne dræbe et dyr hurtigt, skal den være kraftig og kan dermed blive farlig for jægerne selv eller for personer eller kæledyr, der udløser fælden ved en fejl.
To kill an animal quickly a trap needs to be powerful and that can become dangerous for the trappers themselves or for any other person or pet that could set off the trap by mistake.
Aftalen skal gennemføres gradvis, idet bestemmelserne gradvis skærpes.
The key question when assessing this agreement should be: what is really the best option for improving the welfare of trapped animals in Canada and Russia?