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Den fri bevægelighed for personer kan ikke behandles på mellemstatsligt niveau, og Schengen-Aftalerne kan ikke erstatte fællesskabsinitiativet.
In national affairs all these matters are for open, democratic discussion. Why is this not also the case in Community affairs?
ROTH (V). - (DE) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, vi drøfter i dag to emner, som skal holdes skarpt adskilt, da vi ellers falder i den fælde, at vi selv leverer undskyldninger for ikke at omsætte artikel 8 A i EØF-Traktaten.
Mr President of the Council, Commissioners, have your officers studied the Tsimas, Van den Brink, Cooney, De Gucht and De Piccoli parliamentary reports? Do the Council and the Commission know the resolutions of this Parliament, and if so I should like to hear now why no account has been taken of them.
Artikel 8 A er bindende!
Here are some striking examples.
Den er gældende ret og skal være sikret ned til mindste detalje, dvs. at siden den 1.1.19993 skal den fri bevægelighed for personer være sikret i et område uden indre grænser.
For those seeking asylum Parliament asks for the investigation as to admissibility to be carried out by an independent body and that there should be an opportunity for legal appeal.
Men virkeligheden har siden skæringsdatoen set helt anderledes ud!
An order as to a third host country must have regard to the asylumseeker's right of election as provided by the Geneva Convention. Is that untenable?
Derfor går vi helt klart ind for, at den i artikel 175 i EØF-Traktaten fastsatte procedure mod Kommissionen omsider indledes.
Use of the criterion of a 'safe country' must not relieve the authorities of the obligation to ascertain whether return is possible.
Vi har ventet længe nok og bare snakket.
Is that asking too much?
Nu er det vor parlamentariske pligt at udnytte alle muligheder, hvis vi ikke selv vil være medvirkende til omgåelse af loven.
Parliament has not yet expressed its views on family reunion, but the agreements reached in Copenhagen meanwhile provoked a reaction of: this is discrimination, it increases uncertainty and above all it has undesirable side-effects.
HUME (PSE). - (EN) Hr. formand, til forretningsordenen.
I now tum briefly to the free movement of persons.
Betyder det, at han ikke kan bevæge sig frit i det indre marked, og hvad er konsekvenserne?
On 24 May the Commission passed on to us if not assurances then at least hopes from Member States for action in July, seven months late.
I anden del af mit indlæg vil jeg give udtryk for min forfærdelse og harme over det opbud af repressive forslag, som ministrene for indvandring vedtog i København.
On 1 July this year our committee heard indirectly that there will now be action taken in December, i.e. eleven months late, by some Member States. These failings are due to the failure of the national home and interior ministries.
Der skal virkelig en ganske speciel form for ondskabsfuld fantasi til at sætte sig ind i den ideologiske og politiske basis for denne heksejagt på ikke-EF-borge-re.
They have failed to agree measures and they have failed to put sufficient measures into effect on internal security, on drug trafficking, on international crime, on terrorism, on the segregation of passengers in airports.
LE CHEVALLIER (DR). - (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, at dømme efter udkastet til det passivitetssøgsmål, som Udvalget om Borgerlige Frihedsrettigheder har planer om at indbringe, hersker der fuld enighed i Parlamentet om den frie bevægelighed inden for Fælles skabet og om fjernelsen af de indre grænser.
ROTH (V). - (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, this debate is about two subjects which need to be kept strictly apart if we are not to risk exposing ourselves to the charge of failing to implement Article 8a of the Treaty of Rome. Article 8a is binding!
Det er denne aktuelle situation, som samtlige grupper beklager.
It is established law and must be protected in its entirety, that is, since 1 January 1993 the free movement of people in an area without internal borders must be guaranteed.
En sameksistens, hvor alle mennesker, som bor her, arbejder her og har deres livsgrundlag her, får samme rettigheder.
My opinion is this: if they had let democracy and openness into their proceedings far earlier on, they would have acted much quicker.
Det er ingen overdrivelse, men basis for ethvert demokrati.
I therefore call upon the Council and the Commission to state today to the Parliament that they will include democracy and openness in their plans for establishing the security that is needed in the Community if we are to have open frontiers.
Det franske Senat og dets ordfører, hr. Masson, udtalte, at Schengen-aftalerne ikke kunne anvendes, sådan som de forelå, og hr. Lamassoure, den franske minister for europæiske anliggender, erklærede, at det ville vare længe, før forudsætningerne for den frie bevægelighed for personer var opfyldt.
This is why we unequivocally demand that the procedures provided in Article 175 of the EEC Treaty be finally undertaken against the Commission. We have waited and deliberated long enough, it is now our parliamentary duty to do everything that is in our power if we are not to act as accessories in a violation of law.
To måneder senere gik han fra sine ord og sagde, at intet længere stod i vejen for at lade Schengen-aftalerne finde anvendelse fra den 1. december i år.
In the second part of my remarks I should like to express my dismay and indignation at the arsenal of repressive proposals that the immigration ministers decided in Copenhagen.
Det vil sige, at han på Frankrigs vegne forpligtede sig at fjerne grænserne på land, i havnene og i lufthavnene.
It takes a particularly mischievous imagination to trace the ideological and political basis of this witch-hunt against non-EEC citizens.
Det skal tilføjes, at han i mellemtiden havde overtaget formandsposten i Schengen-gruppen for seks måneder, og det forklarer måske hans pludselige holdningsændring.
Particularly shock ing is the nearness in time of the Recommendation on Controls and Removal of third-country nationals - the very language is repressive - to Solingen, which has become the newest symbol for the growing deadly racism in the European Community.
MORETTI (ARC). - (IT) Hr. formand, jeg håber, at dagens forhandling om personernes fri bevægelighed inden for Fællesskabet kan bidrage med nogle konkrete nyheder for Parlamentet.
VAN OUTRIVE (PSE). - (NL) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, Mr President of the Council, Mr Commissioner, the Socialist Group has many questions both about free movement of persons and the inter-govemmental immigration policy.
Vi er i andet kvartal af 1993, og stadig væk er de indre grænser ikke afskaffet og ikke blot det, i stedet for at aftage eller forenkles er de dermed forbundne problemer blevet yderligere kompliceret.
I shall be brief about the application of Article 8a. The Council has repudiated its 1985 signature and in view of the democratic deficit we cannot properly countenance that.
For mange gange har Rådet og Kommissionen handlet og handler stadig uden at involvere Parlamentet, og fra salen i dag fremgår behovet for at give vidnesbyrd om, at programmet og handlingsforslaget i artikel 8 A i Fælle
There is much dissatisfaction about the inter-govemmental immigration policy. Certainly first about the way in which the ministers deal with immigration policy, undemocratically, without openness, without debate, but we also have serious objections to the
Virkningerne af denne politik kommer ikke til at lade vente på sig.
A responsible policy would be a radical reorientation from this very moment - away from a policy of shutting
LE CHEVALLIER ligt talt har afvæbnet, vil kunne gribe ind.
A coexistence in which all those who live here, work here, and have their lives centred here, are granted the same rights.
Intet er på plads, bortset fra behandlingen af asylansøgninger, derer omfattet af Dublin-konventionen.
That is not an exaggeration, but the foundation of any democracy.
personer, insisterer vi også på, at Europas befolkninger forvisses om og får de virkelige grunde at vide til, hvorfor grænserne ikke er blevet åbnet, og den forsikring kan kun blive givet, når offentligheden får at se, at det er af afgørende betydning med et politisamarbejde, at grænserne ikke har beskyttet vore borgere mod terrorisme og narkotikahandel.
plete unanimity between the political Groups in this Parliament on freedom of movement in the Community and the elimination of internal frontiers.
Kun gennem en ophævelse af de indre grænser og en større ressourcetildeling til et politisamarbejde og til et politiberedskab vil vi kunne give vore befolkninger den nødvendige sikkerhed, således at de holder op med at vende sig mod den form for racistisk alternativ, som de får præsenteret, så længe de forledes til at tro, at de indre grænser rent faktisk sætter bom for terrorister og narkotikasmuglere.
In fact all Groups, from the communists to the Gaullists, with the exception of ours, of course, are regretting and denouncing the fact that controls are still common at internal frontiers, at land frontiers, identity checks are regularly carried out in trains and at frontier posts on main roads.
Så igen håber jeg, at Rådet vil tage dette op i sit svar.
That is the present situation, regretted by all Groups.
Til sidst til Kommissionen.
There is a certain hypocrisy in defending one policy in Paris and the opposite policy in Strasbourg.
Kommissionen har en van skelig opgave, fordi den selv har skiftet holdning i spørgsmålet i den seneste tid.
Two months later, eating his own words, at the meeting of the Schengen ministers, Mr Lamassoure stated that there was no longer any reason why the Schengen agreements should not apply as from 1 December next.
Men, kommissær Vanni d'Archirafi, vil De igen bekræfte, at De, når De ikke behøver at være til stede på disse ad hoc-møder og møder, hvor ikke alle Fællesskabets institutioner er repræsenteret, konstant vil minde Fællesskabets medlemsstater om, at Deres altoverskyggende ansvar er at gennemføre Traktaten, og at det går ud over mellemstatslige aftaler og konventioner?
That is, that he was committing himself on behalf of France to eliminating land, sea and air frontiers. I must point out that in the meantime Mr Lamassoure has become chairman of the 'Schengen Group' for six months, so perhaps that is the reason for his sudden about-turn.
Med henblik herpå vil vi beslutsomt beflitte os på at fortsætte afviklingen af kontrollen ved de indre grænser og erstatte den med ensartet kontrol ved de ydre grænser«. Jeg må sige, at ikke alle medlemmer af Rådet har været lige så åbne og tydelige i deres engagement for den fjerde frihedsrettighed.
With the application of the Schengen agreements between six countries, the 450 000 political refugees who arrived in Germany in 1992 will be able tomorrow, if they wish, to surge on to French soil and the airport police and customs officers, who are literally disarmed by the French decision, will be able to do nothing.
Faktisk har vi forhandlet spørgsmålet om fri bevægelighed for personer før hér i Parlamentet, endog uden at Rådet har været til stede.
Apart from processing requests for asylum, laid down by the Dublin Convention, nothing is in place.
Så jeg er derfor personligt taknemmelig for Deres tilstedeværelse, hr. rådsformand, fordi De har anført, at dette er et fællesskabsanliggende og ikke et mellemstatsligt anliggende, og for det andet for den bevågenhed, De allerede har vist sagen.
The barriers, already insufficient, are not yet there, whether we are speaking of strengthening external frontiers, of the Schengen com puter system for wanted persons, or of EUROPOL, the central European police body.
JARZEMBOWSKI (PPE). - (DE) Hr. formand, kære kolleger og repræsentanter for Rådet og Kommissionen, vi kristelige demokrater bliver nødt til at fastholde, at de tolv regeringer skal holde det løfte, som de gav med Den Europæiske Fællesakt.
MORETTI (ARC). - (IT) Mr President, I hope that today's statements on the* free movement of persons within the Community will help bring about some con crete innovations in this Parliament.
Vi bliver nødt til at fastholde, at den stadig eksisterende kontrol af personer ved grænser ne mellem Fællesskabets stater straks skal ophøre.
We are in the second term of 1993 and the internal frontiers have still not been abolished, and not only that, instead of lessening or becoming simpler, the problems involved have become even more complex.
I den henseende bakker de kristelige demokrater helt og fuldt kravene fra Udvalget om Retlige Anliggender og Borger nes Rettigheder og Udvalget om Borgerlige Frihedsrettigheder og Indre Anliggender op om at indbringe en klage mod Kommissionen.
As a result, the most important of the four fundamental freedoms has been trampled on, thus underlining the serous democratic deficit that is emerging with respect to the limits of the European Parliament's power.
Vi er formanden taknemmelig, fordi han nu har indledt klageproceduren, og venter spændt på, hvorledes Kommissionen vil reagere derpå, hr. kommissær.
The free movement of persons cannot be ensured at inter-govemmental level and the Schengen agreements cannot replace Community initiatives.
Mon De blot kunne bekræfte to punkter i Deres svar på forhandlingen? For det første at De energisk vil afvise dem, der forsøger at dele Fællesskabet mellem »Schengen« og »ikke-Schengen«.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is the response, amazing in its poverty and insensibility, proposed by the European Community and the European Parliament as a whole, to face the formidable challenge of immigration!
Begge lejre er efter min opfattelse lige skyldige.
The peoples of Europe have the right to know the truth and to know who are really defending it.
Vil De bekæmpe dette hård nakket?
Our political cmsade seeks to ensure that tomorrow it is not too late.
De stater, der er med i gennemførelsen af Schengen aftalen - og her må jeg til en vis grad modsige hr. Christopher Beazley - har udarbejdet forbilledlige bestemmelser om et uddybet samarbejde mellem politimyndighederne.
A young man held for 10 days in Britain on serious charges, then told by the judge as he left court - ' you leave this court room without a stain on your character' - has been excluded from freedom of movement within the United Kingdom by the British Government.
De bør omsætte disse foranstaltninger hurtigt og ufortøvet, om muligt inden den 1. december i år.
Does that mean that he cannot move freely in the Single Market, and what are the implications?
Offentligheden troede virkelig, at alle fire frihedsrettigheder ville være åbne den 1. januar - i den grad, de måtte få fortalt af deres regeringer, at de stadig måtte have deres pas på sig.
BEAZLEY, Christopher (PPE). - Mr President, I would like to remind the House of what the President-in-Office of the Council said in his speech this morning, because I think it is particularly important on the question of free movement.
Mange regeringer var forhippede på, at budskabet omkring det indre marked faktisk blev troet af offentligheden.
He said that 'true European citizenship also means everyone of us being able to move freely and unhindered within the Community.
Vil De derfor iværksætte en lignende offentlig oplysningskampagne som den, vi havde tilbage i 1985 vedrørende Den Fælles Akt, nu om gennemførelsen af det indre marked, således at det bliver tydeligt, at vi fortsat er forpligtet af princippet om fri bevægelighed for personer?
We will therefore continue to work with determination towards removing controls on internal borders and replacing them with the uniform controls on the external border'.
Derudover har vi i Det Europæiske Fællesskab brug for en ensartet indvandrerpolitik.
I have to say that not all members of the Council in the past have been quite so open and clear about their commitment to the Fourth Freedom.
Derfor opfordrer vi Kom missionen til omsider at forelægge os et forslag til en indvandringsaftale.
In fact, we have debated the subject of free movement of persons before in this House without the Council even being present!
Det, der politisk skiller Parlamentet, navnlig min Kriste-lig-Demokratiske Gruppe og de konservative fra socialister og De Grønne, er, at selv om vi insisterer lige så hårdnakket, om ikke mere, på fri bevægelighed for
LE CHEVALLIER (DR). - (FR) Mr President, Mr Commissioner, ladies and gentlemen, to judge by the proposed proceedings for failure to act which the Com mittee on Civil Liberties intends to bring, there is com
Vi parlamentsmedlemmer er forpligtede over for vore borgere.
Could you just confirm two points in your reply to the debate?
De, fru Roth, gentog endog, at en asylansøger skal have ret til at udvælge sig den bedste stat for asylansøgningen.
One, that you will energetically reject those who try to divide the Community between 'Schengen' and 'non-Schengen'.
Jeg ved jo ikke, hvorledes fru Roths levevilkår er.
Both, in my view, are equally at fault.
(Bifaldfra Det Europæiske Folkepartis Gruppe)
Will you fight this vigorously?
Til indledning vil jeg minde om, at på Det Europæiske Råds møde i Edinburgh den 11. og 12. december 1992 måtte stats- og regeringscheferne konstatere, at den fri personbevægelighed ikke ville kunne gennemføres fuldt ud fra begyndelsen af 1993.
But at the same time we also call for the twelve Member States to take comprehensive security measures in the Community without delay, for the dramatic spread of organized crime in the Community must be halted through closer cooperation between national police services.
Der blev anført en række grunde hertil, som især gik på behovet for at imødegå farerne for den offentlige sikkerhed og farerne som følge af ulovlig indvandring, narkotikahandel og lignende.
The countries of the Schengen Agreement - and on this point I would disagree slightly with my colleague Christopher Beazley - have made exemplary arrange ments for enhanced cooperation between their police services.
På regeringsplan har man allerede længe arbejdet med vigtige ledsageforanstaltninger for at afvende disse farer.
They now need to implement these measures rapidly, if possible before 1 December this year.
Uagtet Dublin konventionen endnu ikke er bekræftet afalle EF's med lemsstater, og at de to andre instrumenter endnu ikke er åbnet for underskrift, må man gå ud fra, at en lang række praktiske problemer er analyseret i forbindelse med disse konventioner.
The non-Schengen countries - Denmark, Ireland and the United Kingdom - should give consideration to introducing equivalent security measures to fight crime in Europe or even to joining the Schengen Agreement, which in my view would be the best thing.
De bliver, og det er en kendsgerning, udsat for forskelsbehandling med hensyn til bolig, adgang til beskæftigelse, fri bevægelighed og politiske, økonomi ske og sociale rettigheder.
The general public really thought that on 1 January all four freedoms would be open - to the extent that they had to be told by their governments that they still had to carry passports.
Alle ved, at det fortrinsvis er dem, der er ofre for racistisk vold.
Many governments were concerned that the message about the Single Market was actually believed by the public.
Selvom det er en integrations- og solidaritetspolitik, vore samfund har brug for, handler regeringerne og fællesskabssmyndighedeme ud fra en diskriminationens og udstødelsens logik.
Will you therefore initiate a similar public information campaign to the one that we had back in 1985 about the Single Act now for the conclusion of the Single Market to show that we are committed still to the free movement of people?
Det Europæiske Råd vedtog justits- og indenrigsministrenes rapport.
In addition, we need in the European Community a uniform immigration policy.
De kan måske huske, at Topmødet i Edinburgh havde anmodet de kompetente ministre om en rapport om sagen.
We therefore call on the Commission finally to submit a proposal for an immigration agreement.
Rapporten beskriver såvel den nuværende situation som de krav, der indtil nu er stillet på vejen mod en fuldstændig gennemførelse af de bevidst kompenserende foranstaltninger og peger på, at disse er endnu mere uundværlige i lyset af de geopolitiske forandringer, der er indtruffet siden artikel 8 A blev optaget i Traktaten.
On this basis we could then at last discuss with our citizens in objective rather than emotional terms what exactly an immigration policy should involve. In our view immigration into the Community should be determined by the needs of the Community and its citizens.
Samtidig må vi hos os selv slå hårdt ned på den illegale indvandring og straffe den strengt.
So I hope the Council will take up that point in his reply.
For så vidt angår Schengen-landene, så vil, når bestemte forudgående betingelser er opfyldt, og når aftalen er trådt i kraft, kontrollen af EF-borgere og borgere fra tredjelande blive afskaffet ved alle indre landegrænser samt ved de indre sø- og lufthavne.
As Members we have obligations to our citizens. We Chris tian Democrats have therefore withdrawn our signature from the motion for a resolution of the Socialists and other groups on immigration, for it goes off the rails in calling at European level for a general right to vote in local elections in all Member States.
Samtidig skal personkontrollen ved de ydre grænser ske på særligt harmoniserede betingelser.
Mrs Roth has even said that an asylum seeker should have the right to choose the most beautiful country for his or her application for asylum.
Således som det frem går af den beslutning, som den 30. juni i år blev bekendtgjort i Madrid, er ministre og statssekretærer fra Schengenlandene blevet enige om at lade aftalens politiske målsætning træde i kraft den 1. december 1993.
I do not what kind of situation Mrs Roth is living in. What I do know is that in the European Community we have a massive abuse of asylum law and we therefore need a clear immigration policy and clear principles to prevent abuse of asylum law.
(Afbrydelse)
(Applause from the Group of the European People's Party)
Derfor må vi imod det købmændenes og arbejdskraftsmuglernes Europa, som nogle går ind for, opbygge et broderskabets og solidaritetens Europa.
PIQUET (CG). - (FR) Mr President, 8 million migrants from outside the Community legally reside in the Com munity.
Ind vandrerne bør behandles lige, når det gælder sociale og økonomiske rettigheder; de bør have borgerlige rettigheder, kulturelle og politiske, herunder stemmeret ved lokale valg.
They are, and this is a fact, the subject of discrimination as regards housing, access to jobs, free dom of movement and political, economic and social rights. As everyone knows, they are the first victims of racialist violence.
Uddannelsessystemerne og medierne bør bidrage til at give EF-borgeme kendskab til de indvandrede arbejdstageres historie, kultur og bidrag til Fælles skabets økonomiske og sociale liv.
Whereas our societies need political integration and solidarity, the Community governments and authorities tend to think along lines of discrimination and exclusion.
Og jeg mener afslutningsvis, at retfærdigheden, solidariteten samt vore landes og Fællesskabets interesser ville stå sig ved det.
New restrictions at Community level on family reunion are being prepared, the right of asylum is called in question here and there, the electorate on the extreme right is encouraged by policies of exclusion and systematic suspicion of immigrants, who are represented as being responsible for unemployment and insecurity.
Jeg ved, at der er en forskel mellem De Tolv og De Ni, det havde jeg tænkt mig selv at komme til.
We must insist that the remaining frontier controls on persons at intra-Community borders are removed without delay.
De nødvendige ordninger for den retlige og praktiske gennemførelse af denne beslutning er fastlagt i mellemtiden.
In this, we Christian Democrats fully endorse the demands of the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights and the Committee on Civil Liberties and Internal Affairs that a complaint be lodged against the Commission.
Man har nemlig konstateret, at de fleste ledsageforanstaltningerer blevet vedtaget, og at de fleste forudgående betingelser er blevet opfyldt.
We are grateful to the President for instituting proceedings and await the Commission's response with great interest, Commissioner.