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I grunden drejer det sig snarere om en konkurrencebestemmelse end om en bestemmelse for området i det oprindelige mandat, nemlig at begrunde informationssamfundet. Naturligvis har den også tilsvarende virkninger, og jeg vil straks komme tilbage til telekommunikation.
that you should then also make it possible, as regards the financing of the universal service within the Member States, for some kind of solidarity and levies to be demanded from private operators who are able to exploit the profitable liberalized market, but would remain on the sidelines when it came to contributing to those services which are socially necessary.
Trods dette og trods de forpligtelser, der udspringer af traktaten — som ordføreren med rette har bemærket — har medlemsstater ne ikke foretaget det fornødne med henblik på at bringe de respektive nationale lovgivninger på disse områder i overens stemmelse med den nye situation.
If that is not to be, we resort to subsidiarity, but then with all its implications, including the possibility of demanding solidarity from the private sector for the provision of public services.
Hvad er så indholdet i det, vi har foreslået.
As for the other amendments, it is difficult at this point to say anything much about the final wording.
Oprindeligt foreslog ordføreren dette.
I can, how ever, say the following on the substance.
Jeg bestrider slet ikke, at man kunne udvide det, men det undlod vi for ikke at vække for megen modstand mod dette første skridt.
Amendment No 1 on the legal provisions in the United States will be included in part.
Der er ingen tvivl om, at kabel-tv-nettene frembyder store muligheder for den enkelte bruger, ligesom det er påvist, at en vedvarende monopolsituation inden for telekommunikationssektoren er til skade for den enkelte borger, om ikke for andet så fordi det gør det umuligt for denne at sammenligne priser og tariffer for de samme tjenesteydelser fra andre teleoperatører.
But nor does the Commission consider it necessary to go into such detail on the American legal provisions in this directive, which relates to the Community market.
Det ved vi også godt.
And that is well and good.
Kommissionen skal imidlertid gøre brug af de instrumenter, som den har til rådighed, hvis den finder dette nødvendigt.
On the other hand, however, we must now bring two principles regarding the universal service into line, the principle of deregulation or liberalization, and the principle of harmonization.
Vi har endnu ikke hjemlet mange direktiver i artikel 90, stk. 3, men i dette tilfælde finder jeg det dog berettiget.
As I have said, we will not find a majority if we harmonize at a level that is not acceptable to countries that, in terms of their present situation, have already moved consider ably further towards deregularization.
Vi går ikke ind for liberalisering som et mål i sig selv eller en ensidig liberalisering; de overordnede interesser vil vedvarende blive sikret, og der er ingen grund til at undervurdere den rolle, det offentlige kan udfylde.
Amendment No 2 concerns the justification for the current monopoly in the voice telephony service.
Vi kan tilslutte os ordførerens krav om en definition af begrebet offentlig tjenesteydelse for at klargøre begreberne med henblik på den større liberalisering, som vil ske den 1. januar 1998.
The Commission will incorporate this justification in the appropriate wording.
Jeg vil gerne understrege med en vis bitterhed, at det indre markeds funktion hæmmes af den samlede mængde af forsinkelser fra medlemsstaternes side.
The reference to equal charges regardless of the supplies and telecommunications services and geographical location does not, however, seem useful.
Derfor forsinkes liberaliseringsprocessen, hvilket de privilegerede kræfter drager fordel af, og det er til skade for en sund og korrekt konkurrence, som er til brugernes fordel.
Both the Council and the European Parliament in its resolution have called for a cost-oriented charging system, although with a few modifications in favour of certain users.
Der findes også forskrifter, der skal forhindre det potentielle misbrug af disse nye muligheder.
In Belgium I sometimes see lorries on the motorway with notices at the back reading: 'Geen taxatie zonder compensatie '.
Selskaber, der både udbyder teletjenester og kabel-tv, er forpligtet til adskilt bogføring, og efter 1. januar 1998 vil Kommissionen undersøge, om den adskilte bogføring er tilstrækkelig eller om der må træffes yderligere foranstaltninger for at forhindre, at en dominerende stilling udnyttes, så et misbrug finder sted.
Now I do believe that this principle is rather bizarre with regard to taxation, but as regards the universal service we could establish the principle: Geen harmonisatie zonder liberalisatie.
Tak sterne for et sådant eksisterende net kunne så sættes betydeligt lavere end f.eks. taksterne for et net, som er nyt.
In practice we are not envisaging that.
Bangemann, medlem af Kommissionen. — (DE) Hr. formand, det var igen — som så ofte ved disse enkeltforslag — en interessant debat, og derfor vil jeg først, før jeg takker hr. Herman mange gange for hans betænkning, minde om en beslutning, som Europa-Parlamentet selv har vedtaget.
We are happy to take over the amendment to Article 2, which is designed to make it clear that this provision is concerned with accounting transparency. As for the measures to be taken after checking the efficiency of the separate accounting under Article 2, the Commission will of course listen to the comments made by Parliament and the Council before making any changes.
Det er nogle gange lidt pinligt for Parlamentet, fordi der i disse beslutninger står ting, som De ofte ikke så gerne vil mindes om; jeg er imidlertid så tarvelig, at jeg alligevel gør det.
If the required measures go beyond a simple amendment to this directive, the Commission will submit proposals on the basis of the appropriate Treaty provisions. At any rate it is not appropriate to discuss at length here the procedures being followed by the Commission.
Direktivforslaget angår ikke teletalefonien.
Those are my comments on the individual amendments.
Dette vil jeg her betone endnu en gang.
That brings me to the end of my statement.
Næsten 907c af teleselskabernes indtægter kommer trods alt stadig fra teletalefonien.
I am grateful to the Members of this House for speaking so briefly on the earlier reports, for a Commissioner is rarely able to speak for nearly half an hour.
Det siger jeg ganske udtrykkeligt til hr. Kühne.
IN THE CHAIR: Sir JACK STEWART-CLARK Vice-President
Allerede den 20. april 1993 — De synes måske, at det er længe siden, og at man i mellemtiden kan have ændret mening?
Wijsenbeek (ELDR). — Mr President, at the last part-session it was announced that Commissioner Kinnock would be present at this Question Time so I withdrew my question.
Det er jo netop sagen, og i så henseende befinder vi os ikke engang inden for rammerne af det, som ville være naturligt i forbindelse med generelle betragtninger om informationssamfundet.
So let there be no doubt about that. What I fear, Commissioner, is that we are arriving at a situation where liberalization means that everything which is profitable is taken over by the private sector, while everything which runs at a deficit remains the responsibility of the publicly owned companies, in other words the taxpayer, and in my view that is unacceptable.
Anvendelsen af artikel 90, stk. 3, er jo tværtimod at forstå som en kontrol af et monopol, dvs. kontrol af telemonopolet i medlemslandene og ophævelse af unødvendige restriktioner.
I also note that you say that if we do not overcome these difficulties, then subsidiarity will have to come into play, and I would go along with that on one condition. That condition is
De juridiske bestemmelser i Forbundsrepublikken, inklusive kontrolforanstaltningerne og alle kompetencer, som er henlagt til delstaterne, berøres juridisk set ikke. I så henseende kan alle medlemmer af CSU roligt se deres ministerpræsident i øjnene.
However, in order to allay all existing fears, some of which you have given expression to, our proposal will ensure that the official existing public services can be maintained so as to constitute a universal service, properly speaking, incorporating a so-called reserved area — that is to say services which will only be provided by the post offices concerned.
Han vil fortsat se nådigt på dem.
(Interruption)
Det begrænsede anvendelsesområde for det forslag, vi nu forhandler om, gør det i al fald ikke mindre nødvendigt at vedtage det hurtigst muligt, og den beslutning, som jeg tidligere citerede, understregede jo så rigtigt den rolle, som kabelnettene i nær fremtid kan spille for udviklingen inden for telekommunikation i Europa, da dejo netop harde kendetegn, der er karakteristiske for et bredbåndsnet, og indtil nu i stor grad ikke har været fuldt udnyttet.
Has the Commission undertaken an in-depth analysis of the likely impact of its plans to liberalize the postal services on the network of post offices which service rural areas, villages and country towns and which also act as the point of contact for the local population with a wide range of government services? Furthermore can the Commission confirm that its proposals for European legislation govern ing the postal services will have as one of its aims the protection of the network of post offices throughout the European Union?
Hvis vi ønsker, at disse tjenester faktisk skal iværksættes, må vi overvinde to forhindringer.
The reaction of one of the honourable Members reflects exactly the situation we are in, caught between Scylla and Charybdis.
Den ene er den manglende infrastruktur.
I leave the choice to you.
Det er rigtigt, og Fernand Herman gjorde opmærksom på, at der f.eks. med hensyn til kabler hersker uligevægt medlemslandene imellem.
Watson (ELDR). — As I am sure you know, you are Parliament's favourite Commissioner, no doubt due to your open, frank and combative style.
Vi kan derfor, når vi ophæver disse begrænsninger i Unionen, regne med en betydelig større udbredelse af tjenester, og det er det andet punkt.
We are fully aware that post offices are not just places where post is collected or distributed but that particularly in rural areas they are an important meeting point for the local people.
Vi har naturligvis også brug for tjenester, som finder et marked.
I myself live in a very rural area and the only distraction available in that area is the possibility of going to the post office and meeting someone there.
I den tyske forfatningsdomstols retspraksis har man ved flere lejligheder gjort opmærksom på, at sådanne restriktioner, som dejo faktisk er, bliver udhulet i praksis. Det er jo ikke alle og enhver, der til enhver tid kan drive radio og fjernsyn.
When you came before Parliament's Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and Industrial Policy a month ago with your colleague, Mr Van Miert, you talked about the conflict between competition policy and universal service provision and you said that you would be resolving this in the Commission the following week.
Selv forbundskansler Adenauer ville engang oprette en landsdækkende kanal og måtte så sande, at der på grund af denne retspraksis også var grænser for hans formåen.
Would you further inform the House as to whether the Commission study that you referred to in February of this year has been published and, if not, whether you would consider publishing it?
Hvorfor bliver de udhulet? De to definitionskendetegn, som den tyske forfatningsdomstol anvender for at begrunde disse restriktioner — nemlig, at ressourcerne for det første knappe, og der findes ikke uanede mængder frekvenser, og at det for det andet er nødvendigt med en offentlig-retlig radio og et offentlig-retligt fjernsyn for at sikre en grundforsyning med information —, ingen af disse to kendetegn gælder i praksis mere.
That is why in February 1995 we commissioned a study on the consumer and the supply of postal services in rural areas.
Som Fernand Herman så rigtigt sagde, giver bredbåndet og kom pression med digital teknik vældig mange muligheder for transmission. Når man så også tæller satellittransmission med, kommer man til et i praksis ubegrænset antal transmissionsmuligheder.
The Commission wants to use this study to examine the contribution of the postal services to economic and social cohesion in order to obtain a more comprehensive picture of the postal services currently on offer and to evaluate the economic development potential of these services more precisely.
Princippet om, at det på grund af det begrænsede antal frekvenser er nødvendigt med en sådan juridisk restriktion, bliver dermed udhulet.
Bangemann. — As I said, the study is not yet completed, so the question of publishing it will arise later.
Om det så medfører en ændring af den tyske forfatningsdomstols retspraksis, kan jeg ikke forud se.
However, I have no reservations about publishing such a study because it will be of general interest.
Det andet argument om, at grundforsyningen skal sikres af offentlig-retlig radio eller fjernsyn, er naturligvis heller ikke længere holdbart.
For there may possibly be earning opportunities here that have not been fully exhausted.
Da mange sendere opfylder alle mulige informationsbehov, sikres grundforsyningen med information naturligvis også.
After all, a post office can offer a great many other services, which could make it more viable.
I så henseende er det i virkeligheden et spørgsmål, hr. Kuhne, om forholdene i de tyske delstater, hvor der i dag stadig af disse grunde er restriktioner, ikke alligevel faktisk bliver ændret.
The findings of the study will be based on interviews with those concerned, the postal services, consumer associations, ministries, etc., and are expected to be available by the end of this year.
Hvilke fordele forventer vi?
So that is that.
Jeg vil ikke gå ind på det, hr. Schiedermeier sagde.
Neil Kinnock said that you also paid him the compliment of being the favourite of Parliament.
For os er det vigtige spørgsmål: Hvordan ser det ud med accepten i samfundet?
If that is true, you will have to make up your mind because you can only have one favourite.
Hvilket resultat kommer man til på arbejdspladserne osv.?
Crowley (RDE). — I thank the Commissioner for his response.
Det er måske et synspunkt, som ikke spiller den helt store rolle, fordi det som sagt blot drejer sig om en lille udvidelse af de nuværende muligheder.
However, I raised this issue because in Ireland there is much discussion about the deregulation of the state monopolies that supply postal, electricity and transport services in Ireland.
I fremtiden vil disse argumenter spille en stor rolle, det samme gælder spørgsmålet om den universelle tjeneste, som blev bragt på bane endnu en gang. Jeg ved — jeg måtte stå til regnskab for det i går i Rådet — at vi her er svar skyldig.
The problem is that if we now attempt to go over purely to a competition basis — and I was very interested to hear what the Commissioner had to say in his previous contribution — it will mean that the money the European Union has expended in rural development, in infrastructure and cohesion funding over the last fifteen years in Ireland will be wasted because, without the basis services of humanity which are shops, schools, post offices, transport, electricity, etc., the population will not want to live in the rural areas.
Kommissionen har indtil nu ikke kunnet blive enig.
I want, if possible, a commitment from the Commission to take account of the social effect of these services on the rural communities.
Jeg siger det også her ganske åbent: Dette skyldes ikke, at vi ikke har lavet noget, men at vi ikke kunne blive enige, ikke engang i Kommissionen.
Wijsenbeek (ELDR). — (DE) Mr President, I wonder whether the Commissioner is not personifying both Scylla and Charybidis.
Vi gør et nyt forsøg i juli, og jeg kan forsikre Dem om, at vi inden udgangen af juli vil fremlægge et forslag, både om den universelle tjeneste og den reserverede tjeneste inden for den universelle tjeneste.
But in my view, and I would be glad if the Commissioner were to agree with me, it really is not necessary to retain all these post offices in rural regions and it would be much cheaper and simpler to install fax machines and other electronic devices there, which would also lead to greater liberal ization.
Problemet vil være at finde en løsning, som er acceptabel for alle medlemslande.
Bangemann. — Yes, I can give that assurance to the honour able Members.
I den forbindelse beder jeg Dem indtrængende om at kigge på situationen i de medlemslande, som allerede har foretaget langt større liberaliseringer, end vi har i sinde, og alligevel har opretholdt en universel tjeneste.
As I said before, we are trying to define a universal service which would cover all existing social and other needs, especially in rural areas.
Det er imidlertid blot den ene side af denne frihed.
I have absolutely nothing against fax machines.
Vi har altså også ret til frit at kunne informere os fra de kilder, som kan gøres tilgængelige for os.
Of course they will replace a part of the postal service.
Med andre ord: Hvis disse to definitionskendetegn, som hidtil har begrundet sådanne offentligretlige restriktioner, ikke længere er gyldige, så vil denne anden del, dvs. den borgerlige frihedsret til at kunne informere sig, få meget større betydning.
That is why I said a moment ago that even if we managed to establish a broad definition of the universal service, we could of course not be sure that the progress of technology did not invalidate it again.
Desuden er Sverige et land, der geografisk set er meget stort, med et meget stort areal og en meget forskellig fordeling af befolkningen.
Since in any case a fax is faster and in many cases now even cheaper than a letter, it may very well be that more and more consumers will use faxes instead of sending letters.
Svenskerne har to tæt befolkede områder
That is quite conceivable.
Det drejer sig derfor om et land, hvor det egentlig skulle være vanskeligt at opretholde en universel tjeneste, fordi der findes to økonomisk interessante områder, hvorimod resten egentlig ikke er særlig profitabel.
Moreover, the first results will be available by the middle of the year, because the experience gained n the meantime has already been the subject of expert evaluation.
Når man ophæver restriktionerne vedrørende brugen af kabel-tv, vil man takket være bredbåndskablet, som bruges i disse net, åbne op for tilbuddet af interaktive og multimedietjenester, vel at mærke uden at skulle tilpasse de eksisterende net i nævneværdig grad.
Yet, as I have just tried to explain, a post office is not just an institution that distributes or collects letters, but in rural areas at least it is very much a part of social life.
For kunne tilbyde den slags tjenester må kapaciteten hos teleselskabernes net, som hidtil har koblet slutbrugerne op via kobbertråde med lav transmissionshastighed, gøres betyde ligt større.
Perhaps this may not be the case in rural areas of the Netherlands, but if I want to find out who my mayor's present girl friend is and whether he intends to get a divorce, I go to my post office.
Det ved alle selskaber også godt.
That cannot be replaced by a fax machine.
Vi står her over for denne underlige splittethed, som mange lider af, også i Europa-Parlamentet.
President — Question No 23 by Caroline Jackson (H-0393/95) Subject: Possible export ban on live animal trade
På den ene side ser man mulighederne i dette nye informationssamfund.
White (PSE). - This is a follow-up to the point that Mrs Jackson touched on.
Den er oven i købet meget effektiv.
As the 'guardian of the Treaties', does the Commission agree with these conclusions?
Når man tænker på den universelle tjenestes sociale funktion, må man ikke glemme effektiviteten.
In what form this recommendation is applied is in a sense up to those responsible for implementing it.
Alternativet er der da ingen mening i: Hvis jeg sender et brev på 10 sider —jeg nævnet et medlemsland, som De sandsynligvis kender bedre end jeg, nemlig Belgien — fra Belgien til Spanien, varer det gennemsnitlig syv dage, en hel uge.
What we have at present in terms of implementation is the directive I quoted on calf breeding and we will discuss possible improvements to this directive when the scientific findings of the report to which I referred are available.
Det tager kun ti minutter at faxe 10 sider og et minut, hvis man bruger e-mail. Fax og e-mail er desuden endnu billigere end dette brev.
Wijsenbeek (ELDR). — (NL) Mr President, does not the Commissioner share my view that transporting animals, in this case calves, in a crate in which they have already spent a good deal of time actually provides them with a familiar environment and is therefore preferable to transporting them unrestrained and in an unfamiliar way?
De kan for min skyld gerne reducere de syv dage til 34 dage, det vil jeg ikke skændes med Dem om. Effektivt er det ikke.
Fischler, Member of the Commission. — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, in reply to your question on the live animal trade I can tell you that an export ban would definitely conflict with Article 34 of the Treaty.
En universel tjeneste, der er dyr og ineffektiv, er da den dårligste tjeneste, man kan gøre borgerne.
The question arises whether a ban can be justified for one of the reasons listed in Article 36.
Derfor vægrer jeg mig ved påstanden om, at det skulle være asocialt, når vi nu gør de moderne kommunikationsformer mulige.
In the Commission's view, the use of Article 36 is no longer justified if the matter in question is regulated by Community law.
Vi står nu over for spørgsmålet: Hvordan definerer vi den universelle tjeneste?
A ban ofthat kind could be regarded as an obstacle to the aims of the directive.
Hvis vi laver en for vid definition, særlig inden for det reserverede område, så vil vi ikke få flertal for den i Rådet.
Under these circumstances, the Commission would take the view that a Member State cannot invoke Article 36.
Naturligvis er samarbejdet mellem Deutsche Telekom og France Telecom og stiftelsen af et datterselskab ved navn Atlas fornuftig.
As you know, intensive discussions are currently taking place in the Council.
Det er i øvrigt noget, som andre virksomheder allerede har gjort for længe siden, således at de to selskaber egentlig nu er bagud med hensyn til kompetence, fordi Kommissionen ikke godkendte denne alliance. Og hvor for kunne vi ikke godkende den?
The French presidency has announced that it will do its utmost to bring about a decision on the matter of animal exports at the forthcoming Council meeting on Monday and Tuesday next week.
Fordi der i Tyskland eller i Frankrig ikke er blevet liberaliseret i tilstrækkelig grad, og at denne alliance, i al fald sådan som sagerne nu står, blot ville have den virkning, at den monopolistiske stilling, som France Telecom har i Frankrig og Deutsche Telecom har i Forbundsrepublikken, ville blive styrket, og det er der ingen, der ønsker.
In my view it would not be a very good argument to say that transport conditions must be exactly the same as farm conditions, because other stress factors arise during transport, which justify special treatment during that transport.
Jeg håber, at virksomhederne og de to implicerede lande nu fremkommer med nye forslag, som tager højde for dette. Det er godt eksempel på, at hvis man i disse tider, hvor man forbereder sig på informationssamfundet, ikke udviser det fornødne mod at tage de nødvendige skridt nu, så vil man komme bagud og aldrig kunne indhente de andres forspring.
Jackson (PPE). — I am grateful to the Commissioner for making it clear that if the United Kingdom did act unilaterally to seek to h-n the export of live animals, then that would lay it open to an action before the Court of Justice, presumably brought by the Commission.
Heldigvis er der også positive udviklinger.
President. - Question No 24 by Friedrich Wolf (H-0397/95)