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Fayot (PSE), formand for Udvalget for Forremingsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet. - (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil ikke gå ind i en diskussion med hr. Jean-Pierre, men jeg må gøre helt klart opmærksom på, at jeg har ført alle Forretningsordensudvalgets beslutninger ud i livet.
Fayot (PSE), chairman of the Committee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities. - (FR) Mr President, I am not going to get involved in an argument with Mr Jean-Pierre, but I must state very clearly at this point that I implemented all the decisions made by the Committee on the Rules of Procedure.
Jeg har afsendt omtalte skrivelse.
I sent the letter to which he referred.
Der kan derfor ikke i denne henseende være tale om, at vi dækker over hr. Tapie.
There can therefore be no question of connivance in this respect.
Det vil jeg gerne gøre helt klart over for Parlamentet. tet.
I would like to make that very clear to Parliament.
Til sidst vil jeg tillade mig at påpege, hvor forældet den parlamentariske immunitet forekommer i dag.
Finally, perhaps I may be permitted to emphasize how parliamentary immunity today appears to have become completely obsolete.
Den sætter den folkevalgte i en langt mere gunstig situation, end en almindelig borger, sigtet for de samme forhold, ville være i under en retslig proces.
It places a Member of Parliament in a much more advantageous position in jurisdictional pro ceedings than that of some ordinary citizen suspected of the same acts.
F.eks. de personer, der netop nu er i fængsel i forbindelse med den sag, vi behandler.
This, incidentally, applies to people who are currently in prison in connection with the proceedings we are now considering.
Dagens forhandling er således for mig en lejlighed til at gøre opmærksom på, at jeg gerne så en afskaffelse af noget, som ikke længere har berettigelse i vore demokratier og i virkeligheden er et rent og skært privilegium.
Bourlanges (PPE). - (FR) Mr President, I voted against Mr Wijsenbeek's report and I should like very quickly to explain why.
Bourlanges (PPE). - (FR) Hr. formand jeg har stemt imod hr. Wijsenbeeks betænkning, og jeg vil gerne afgive en hurtig forklaring.
Today's debate, then, provides an opportunity for me to state once again that I would like to see the end of something which no longer has any justification in a democratic society and is, in point of fact, a genuine privilege.
Harrison (PSE). - (EN) Hr. formand, hvad er det, De laver? Det var to minutter.
Harrison (PSE). - Mr President, what are you doing?
Det tager taletid fra de andre talere.
It deprives other speakers of time.
Vil De venligst lede mødet ordentligt?
Could you not chair the meeting properly?
Det nytter ikke at smile. Kan De optræde som formand for Parlamentet eller ej?
It is no good smiling.
Formanden. - Hr. Harrison, den pågældende tjenestegren har meddelt mig, at hr. Fabre-Aubrespy talte på gruppens vegne, hvorfor han havde to minutter og ikke blot ét til rådighed.
President. - Mr Harrison, I have been informed that Mr Fabre-Aubrespy was speaking on behalf of his group and hence he was entitled to two minutes instead of one.
Vi har derfor begge taget fejl.
Therefore, you and I were both wrong.
Jeg mener ikke, at det i denne sag er Parlamentets opgave at dømme et menneske.
I believe that our Parliament, in this matter, was not being called upon to judge a man.
Vi har ikke samme indgående kendskab til omstændighederne som de retslige myndigheder, det er ikke os, der skal vurdere dem. I modsætning til, hvad man faktisk har gjort på flere måder, mener jeg heller ikke, det tilkommer os at dømme de franske myndigheder.
We are not as familiar as the legal authorities with the facts of the case, and it is not for us to express an opinion on them.
Det eneste spørgsmål, vi bør stille os selv, er: bør der gælde andre love for hr. Tapie, end der gælder for almindelige borgere i Frankrig?
We were required to consider a single question: should Mr Tapie benefit from a legal system that differs in any respect from that which applies to an ordinary citizen of the Republic?
McKenna (V). - (EN) Hr. formand, jeg finder det vigtigt at sige, at jeg stemte »ja«, men at jeg ikke går ind for tanken om privilegier.
McKenna (V). - Mr President, first of all I think it is very important to say that I voted 'yes' but I am not in favour of the idea of privileges.
Jeg mener ikke, at vi skal have parlamentarisk immunitet, blot fordi vi har været så heldige at blive valgt ind i Europa-Parlamentet.
I do not believe that we should be immune in this Parliament just because we are lucky enough to have been elected here.
Alle mennesker skal behandles lige, og ingen skal være hævet over loven.
Parliamentary precedent answers that question consistently.
Problemet er, at alle andre parlaments-
Nobody can reasonably maintain that the charges against Mr Tapie are political.
Dette spørgsmål har Parlamentets retspraksis et fast svar på.
The problem is that this privilege is still available to every other Member of Parliament.
Og ingen ved sine fulde fem kan hævde, at anklagerne mod hr. Tapie er af politisk karakter.
Everyone has the right to be assumed innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt in a court of law, where they have the right to defend them selves.
Frygten for, hvad nogen »kan« gøre. er ikke en juridisk gyldig begrundelse.
McKenna tee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities in deciding to refuse to waive Mr Tapie's parliamentary immunity.
medlemmer stadig har adgang til dette privilegium. Vi ville derfor skille en enkelt person ud fra alle andre.
Parliament should - as our group has pointed out - address the issue of parliamentary immunity generally.
For det andet går man ud fra, at personen er skyldig.
The idea of immunity should be lifted from everyone.
(2) Der henvises til en »supplerende sigtelse«.
We should be like all people on the street.
Man har allerede afgjort spørgsmålet om hr. Tapies frihed.
Just because we are here, we should not be above the law in any way.
Hvordan kan retten ombestemme sig uden juridisk begrundelse? delse?
I do not think it should be lifted in one case but right across the board.
Parlamentet bør - som vores gruppe har påpeget - have en generel drøftelse om parlamentarisk immunitet.
The European Parliament is not required to sit in judge ment on the merits of the allegations made against Mr Tapie.
Bare fordi vi sidder her, skal vi ikke på nogen måde være hævet over loven. Jeg mener ikke, at immuniteten skal ophæves i et enkelt tilfælde, men for alle parlamentsmedlemmer.
In all similar cases, established precedent has been for the House to confine itself exclusively to legal considerations, disregarding such matters as the notoriety of the Member in question, his political affiliations or national origin, or possible media reaction to the House's decision.
Det er ikke Europa-Parlamentets opgave at udtale sig principielt om de forhold, hr. Tapie anklages for.
The only question before us can be summarized as follows: in law, is there any justification for the request to waive immunity?
Det har det hverken kompetence til eller mulighed for.
Is the waiver a legal requirement in order to enable justice to be done in the case of Mr Tapie?
Gollnisch (NI). - (FR) Hr. formand, den beslutning, der er truffet i aften, bringer stor skam over Parlamentet.
Gollnisch (NI). - (FR) Mr President, the decision taken this evening completes the discrediting of our Parliament.
Det er for eftertiden slået fast, at den parlamentariske immunitet ikke længere beskytter den parlamentarikers udtryksfrihed, der opponerer mod sit lands regering, selv om dette netop er hensigten med immuniteten.
It is now understood that parliamentary immunity no longer protects the right of expression of a Member of Parliament who opposes the rulers of his country, although that is its sole purpose.
Hvis en højrepolitiker kommer med udtalelser, som et flertal i Parlamentet ikke bryder sig om, skynder det sig at udlevere ham til øvrigheden.
If a rightist politician has advanced arguments which displease the majority in this House, this House will make haste to hand him over to the secular arm.
Men når en venstrepolitiker bliver anklaget for lovovertrædelser og forseelser mod almindelig gældende ret, kan han være sikker på sine kollegers mafiøse solidaritet. ritet.
But if a leftist politician is charged with common-law offences and crimes, he can rely upon the mafia-style support of his colleagues.
Det var på denne måde, De ved hjælp af alle mulige proceduremæssige kunstgreb beskyttede de græske socialister, der var indblandet i skandalen omkring Kretas bank, de britiske Labour-medlemmer, der var indblandet i nogle skandaløse sager, de spanske socialister, der havde ud plyndret vor kollega Ruis Matteos, og mange flere.
We saw this principle in action when you used every procedural trick to protect the Greek socialists who were compromised in the Bank of Crete scandal, the British Labour politicians compromised in scandalous activities, the Spanish socialists who robbed our colleague Ruis Matteos, and many other similar cases.
Forundersøgelsen af denne sag blev indledt for fem år siden.
Is there sufficient justification for authorizing the examining magistrate to hold Mr Tapie on remand, as is his avowed intention?
Hr. Tapie blev afhørt for næsten to år siden, og efter ændringen af den franske forfatning i maj 1995 kan undersøgelsesdommeren uden problemer stævne ham. for høre ham, fortsætte opklaringen, og om nødvendigt føre en retssag til ende.
Again, the answer is no. First, any such detention would not comply with any of the strict criteria laid down by the French Criminal Code, a point made both by the Committee on the Rules of Procedure and by the French National Assembly.
Er anmodningen berettiget med henblik på at bemyndige undersøgelsesdommeren til at varetægtsfængsle hr. Tapie, sådan som han ikke lægger skjul på, at han gerne vil? Også her er svaret nej.
Secondly, any decision to this effect which the European Parliament might reach would be ineffective since Mr Tapie enjoys dual immunity and the French National Assembly is opposed to his imprisonment.
Når den græske socialist Kostopoulos skælder Mitsotakis' midterregering ud for at være røverisk, foreslår ordføreren, at hans immunitet bevares.
When the Greek socialist Kostopoulos describes the centrist government of Mr Mitsotakis as a government of thieves, the rapporteur proposes that his immunity should be maintained.
Men hvis Jean-Marie Le Pen nogle måneder senere erklærer den franske socialistregering for røverisk, harmes samme ordfører og foreslår ophævelse af hans immunitet, og Parlamentet følger ham i hans forbandelse. Ganske vist var der en stor forskel: det er ikke sikkert, der var så mange røvere i Mitsotakis' regering, hvorimod der var mange i den franske socialistregering. ring.
When, a few months later, Jean-Marie Le Pen denounces the French socialist government as a government of thieves, the same rapporteur indignantly proposes that his immunity be waived, and the same House supports him in this reversal.
Dels ville en sådan beslutning truffet af Europa-Parlamentet være virkningsløs, eftersom hr. Tapie er så heldig'at have dobbelt immunitet, og Den Franske Nationalforsamling har modsat sig en varetægtsfængsling.
Is there sufficient justification to authorize the examining magistrate to place Mr Tapie under judicial supervision? On this specific point, the European Parliament's Commit tee on the Rules of Procedure did not entirely adopt the position of the French National Assembly.
Ewing og Macartney (ARE), skriftlig. - (EN) Vi støtter anbefalingen fra Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet af følgende grunde:
Ewing (ARE) andMacartney (ARE), in writing. - We support the recommendation of the Committee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities for the following reasons:
(1) Undersøgelsesdommerens anmodning om ophævelse af immuniteten bygger på to juridiske begrundelser:
(1) The examining magistrate's request to waive immunity is based on two legal justifications:
Er anmodningen berettiget med henblik på at bemyndige undersøgelsesdommeren til at iværksætte retslige kontrol foranstaltninger over for hr. Tapie?
But the contradiction is more apparent than real. The French National Assembly was called upon to rule on the waiver of immunity relating to a national mandate.
På dette punkt har Europa-Parlamentets Udvalg for Forretningsordenen ikke bare overtaget Den Franske Nationalforsamlings holdning.
The European Parliament's Committee on the Rules of Procedure merely looked more deeply into the matter in order to take account of the specific aspects of the mandate given to a Member of the European Parliament.
(a) På grund af en »væsentlig krænkelse af den offentlige orden«.
(b) That Mr Tapie, he fears, will 'attempt to influence the course of the judicial inquiry relating to others questioned and witnesses in France and abroad'.
Der har- ikke være nogen »krænkelse af den offentlige orden«.
Fears of what someone 'may' do is not a justification with legal validity.
Men der er kun tilsyneladende tale om et modsætningsforhold.
The issue of Mr Tapie's freedom has already been decided.
Europa-Parlamentets Forretningsordensudvalg har kun uddybet dens overvejelser ved at tage de særlige aspekter ved hans mandat som medlem af Europa-Parlamentet i betragtning.
Over and above the legal aspects as such, the question before us relates to respect for fundamental human rights, of which the European Parliament has always purported to be a scrupulous defender.
Udvalget har ved en grundig læsning af den franske straffelov korrekt vurderet, at der ikke er nogen garanti for,
How can the court have the right to change its mind without legal justification?
(b) Han frygter, at hr. Tapie vil »forsøge at påvirke sagens opklaring ved henvendelser til de øvrige sigtede og til vidner i Frankrig og i udlandet«.
Fontaine, Decourrière, Soulier, Stasi, Verwaerde (PPE), in writing. - (FR) We support the position of the Commit
Vi kan konstatere, at der i dag foregår et åbenlyst misbrug af varetægtsfængsling i hovedparten af medlemslandene.
This shows no respect for the law, which judges - of all people - must observe to the letter, or democracy or fundamental human rights.
En forebyggende indespærring af et menneske, hvor berettiget en efterfølgende tiltale end måtte gøre den, foregriber den egentlige dom og ødelægger dette menneskes liv.
The imprisonment of a man on remand, even if he is subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing, anticipates the actual verdict on him and destroys his life.
Den er kun berettiget i undtagelsestilfælde, som er meget præcist defineret i straffeloven.
It is justified only in exceptional cases which are strictly defined by the Penal Code.
Afstemningen i dag vedrører heller ikke spørgsmålet om, hvordan vi politisk bedømmer de gældende, nationalt forskellige immunitetsregler.
Today's vote does not relate to the question of how we judge the present immunity rules, which vary from one country to the next.
Efter min opfattelse skal vi etablere retsstatslige forhold, hvor det er nødvendigt, at parlamentarikere nyder særlige immuniteter under udøvelsen af deres forfatningsmæssige hverv.
In my view we must create a constitutional position in which special immunities are needed for parliamentarians in the exercise of their statutory functions.
Her og i dag skulle vi kun besvare det spørgsmål, om anmodningen om ophævelse af Bernard Tapies parlamentariske immunitet er retligt tilstrækkelig begrundet, eller om der ligger politiske sidemotiver til grund for denne anmodning.
Here today, we have only had to answer the question whether the motion to waive Mr Tapie's immunity has an adequate legal foundation or whether there are ulterior political motives for the request.
Beklageligvis er jeg kommet til den konklusion, at det er det sidste, der er tilfældet.
Unfortunately, I came to the conclusion that the latter is the case.
Jeg var derfor nødt til at stemme for hr. Wijsenbeeks betænkning, hvor meget jeg end beklager dette.
I therefore had to vote for Mr Wijsenbeek's report, much to my regret.
Måske kunne hr. Tapie gøre os alle en tjeneste ved uopfordret at give afkald på sit mandat!
Perhaps Mr Tapie could do us all a favour by resigning his mandate.
Parlamentet gør sig selv ære ved uden hensyntagen til selve personen eller dennes politiske tilhørsforhold at koncentrere opmærksomheden om det skråplan, der bliver mere og mere udbredt, og om at minde dem, der er i besiddelse af den farlige magt til at berøve et menneske dets frihed, om det ældgamle princip, at »et menneske bør betragtes som uskyldigt, indtil dets skyld er endeligt bevist«.
Our Parliament has a duty, disregarding any personal considerations or political affiliations, formally to focus attention on the increasingly common irregularities in this area and to remind those who have the awesome power to deprive a man of his liberty of the age-old principle whereby 'a man is presumed innocent until he has been definitively proven guilty'.
Formanden. - Næste punkt på dagsordenen er betænkning (A4-0016/96) af Sarlis for Udvalget om Transport og Turisme om Grønbog fra Kommissionen om Den Europæiske Unions betydning for turismen (KOM(95) 0097 -C4-0157/95).
President. - The next item is the report (A4-0016/96) by Mr Sarlis, on behalf of the Committee on Transport and Tourism, on the Green Paper on the role of the Union in the field of tourism (COM(95)0097 - C4-0157/95).
Da ordføreren ikke er til stede, giver jeg ordet til hr. Harrison, der er ordfører for udtalelsen fra Udvalget om Økonomi, Valutaspørgsmål og Indenrigspolitik.
Péry (PSE), in writing. - (FR) The logic behind a vote relating to the waiver of the parliamentary immunity of a Member of this House must be rigorous, must be based on law, and must disregard any feelings of sympathy or antipathy we may feel.
Udvalget for Forretningsordenens overvældende flertalsbeslutning imod ophævelsen af immuniteten havde deltagelse af parlamentsmedlemmer fra forskellige lande og forskel lige politiske grupper, der hermed levede op til de juridiske krav.
The vote of the Committee on the Rules of Procedure, by a large majority, not to waive immunity in this case was cast by Members of different nationalities and different political groups who complied with the legal requirement.
For det første henviser anmodningen fra statsadvokaten ved Cour d'Appel d'Aixen-Provence til undersøgelsesdommerens kendelse af 20. oktober 1995 i tilslutning til undersøgelserne af forvaltningen af Olympique de Marseille.
First, the request by the Public Prosecutor at the Aix-en-Provence Court of Appeal refers to an order made on 20 October 1995 by the examining magistrate responsible for the investigation into the management of Olympique de Marseille.
Europa-Parlamentet blev anmodet om at ophæve Bernard Tapies parlamentariske immunitet, så han kunne varetægtsfængsles.
The European Parliament was requested to waive the parliamentary immunity of Bernard Tapie in order to enable him to be remanded in custody.
Men Den Franske Nationalforsamling har allerede afvist en sådan forholdsregel, hvilket beskytter Bernard Tapie mod varetægtsfængsling, så Europa-Parlamentets afstemning bliver overflødig.
However, the National Assembly has already refused to waive immunity, which protects Bernard Tapie against being imprisoned on remand whatever the European vote, which has thus become pointless.
Harrison (PSE), ordfører for udtalelsen fra Udvalget om Økonomi, Valutaspørgsmål og Industripolitik. - (EN) Hr. formand, i det 21. århundrede vil telekommunikation, rejser og turisme være de områder, hvor verden og EU skal søge efter beskæftigelse til befolkningen.
Harrison (PSE), draftsman of the opinion of the Commit tee on Economic and Monetary affairs and Industrial Policy. - Mr President, the 21st century will be the century of telecommunications.
Overraskende nok nævnes der i Delors-hvidbogen om vækst, konkurrenceevne og beskæftigelse intet om denne store jobgenerator» skønt Europa er det mest besøgte turistmål i verden.
Communications, travel and tour ism are the areas where the world and the EU must look for jobs for our people.
25 millioner arbejdspladser i Vesteuropa afhænger af turismen, og de samlede turistindtægter forventes i år 2006 at løbe op i hele 2, 1 trillioner dollars.
Surprisingly, the Delors White Paper on Growth, Competitiveness and Employment failed to mention this great job generator, yet Europe is the world's top tourist destination supporting 25 million jobs in West ern Europe, with an astonishing prospective 2.1 trillion dollars coming in by the year 2006.
Hvordan skal vi organisere os i Den Europæiske Union for at forsvare vores nuværende samlede andel og skabe nye arbejdspladser til de arbejdsløse?
So how are we to organize ourselves in the European Union to defend our current global share and create new jobs for our jobless?
Kommissionens grønbog indeholder fire valgmuligheder.
The Commission's Green Paper suggests four options.
Bortset fra det absurde forslag fra den britiske regering om en politik gående ud på »intet at gøre«, går de fleste medlemsstater enten ind for valgmulighed 3 (øgede ressourcer) eller valgmulighed 4 (der giver EU kompetence på turistområdet).
Apart from the absurd British Government which advocates a policy of 'do nothing', most Member States are attracted either by Option 3 (increasing resources) or by~ Option 4 (giving an EU competence to tourism).
For det tredje giver den nye franske forfatning de franske retsvæsen mulighed for at retsforfølge parlamentsmedlem mer, både hvad angår efterforskning, domfældelse og fængsling efter den endelige dom, uden at det pågældende
Thirdly, the new French constitutional law allows the French legal authorities to prosecute any Member of Parliament, submit him to examination, pass judgement upon him and imprison him after a final sentence has been imposed without its being necessary to obtain a waiver of immunity (in the present case, European parliamentary immunity).
I hr. Sarlis' fremragende betænkning slås der kraftigt til lyd for Parlamentets velkendte synspunkt om, at turismen i forbindelse med revisionen af Maastrichttraktaten på regeringskonferencen skal gøres til et område, der henhører under Den Europæiske Unions kompetence. Det vil være et
It will help to ensure that tourism's voice is heard in the framing and implementation of EU legislation. The wide range of disciplines affected by and affecting tourism - the environment, culture and heritage, consumer and social protection, education and training and, of course, transport - require DG XXIII to show vigilance in representing the tourism cause.
visionært signal om, at EU tager underholdnings- og fritidsindustrierne alvorligt.
Harrison we have no established European tourism policy against which to measure such valuable spending.
Det vil også give et retsgrund) lag, på hvilket der kan udvikles en lovgivning til fremme af turismen.
The tourist as consumer should be pivotal to the remit of such a tourism policy.
Således forblev og forbliver Fællesskabets turistindustris interesser ubeskyttede mod Unionens åbning over for ikkeeuropæiske turistvirksomheder.
It should mobilize all resources possible to support the tourism industry in all its manifest forms and also respect the rights of workers and promote and enhance our European built and natural environment.
Den vil medvirke til at sikre, at turismens stemme høres ved planlægningen og gennemførelsen af EUlovgivningen.
accordance with the principle of subsidiarity in Community and international tourism?
Dette beslutnings forslag giver svaret: Parlamentet opfordres til at træffe beslutning både om inddragelse af et selvstændigt afsnit om en fælles turistpolitik med. særskilt retsgrundlag i traktaten og om de områder, som denne politik kommer til at berøre.
The resolution we are consider ing gives the answer: Parliament is called upon to decide not only to add to the Treaty an independent title for a common policy on tourism with a separate legal base, but also to determine the sectors in which that policy will apply.