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Har Kommissionen ventet med at gribe ind, indtil de sidste muligheder for en aftale var skabt?
It is a profitable steel industry and the Commissioner has chosen to bring in historic fines against that steel company which will cost jobs in the United Kingdom.
Kan Kommissionen også angive, hvordan den ser på de akutte vanskeligheder, som kunne opstå på grund af dens indgriben?
If he wants to tackle the problem in the steel industry, he should not tackle the profitable steel industry in Britain, he should tackle the subsidized industry in the rest of Europe. That is what this House expects of him.
Pasty (RDE). - (FR) Fru formand, jeg vil gerne stille Kommissionen følgende spørgsmål: har EF-Kommis-sionen en logisk sammenhængende stålpolitik?
Beumer. - (NL) Madam President, first of all I think it should be said that Parliament endorses the Commis
Jeg vil gerne spørge Kommissionen, om den ikke mener, at der også på dette niveau er en særlig politik at føre, dels for at forhindre illoyal konkurrence over for vore egne stålproducenter, men også for at tilskynde de østeuropæiske stålproducenter til at satse på mindre forurenende produktionsmetoder.
Secondly. I want to ask Mr Van Miert what political advantage there can be in this measure when the European steel industry is in a delicate position and when some of these companies have, moreover, reduced capacity with very great sacrifice of jobs.
Donnelly (PSE). - (EN) Fru formand, Europa-Parlamentet forventer naturligvis, at Kommissionen anvender konkurrencereglerne, men jeg er nødt til at sige til kommissær Van Miert, at jeg er dybt skuffet over, at han
Has Mr Van Miert -who is a socialist - considered what another reduction in jobs may mean?
Hvori består da sammenhængen mellem de bestræbelser, der på den ene side udfoldes for at tilpasse EF's stålsektor til den aktuelle krisesituation, navnlig ved etablering af en omstruktureringsplan, der er kostbar for virksomhederne og desværre også kostbar i form af arbejdspladser, og som tager sigte på at afskaffe den formodede overkapacitet, og så denne uforståelige afgørelse om i dette
Mr Commissioner, has this decision got anything to do with the difficulties encountered in the restructuring negotiations with the private firms? If it has.
Pasty øjeblik at idømme disse virksomheder hårde bøder? Erkender Kommissionen de konsekvenser, som dens afgørelse vil få for situationen i de berørte virksomheder, der for adskilliges vedkommende taber mange penge og desværre også mange arbejdspladser?
Garcia Arias what are firms which have already made sacrifices and reductions doing in the middle of this battle?
Barcelona og Verdensudstillingen i Sevilla.
situation really is very serious.
Vor indsigelse mod afgørelsens substans er klar.
So I invite you to say a few words on this point, Mr Commissioner.
Derfor skal jeg anmode Kommissionen om at genoverveje boden.
Are the workers going to be affected by the current reconversion?
I modsat fald må Kommissionen svare på, om den kendte og oven i købet opmuntrede til de virksomhedsmøder, som kartellerne skabte mulighed for, og hvad grundene er til den holdningsændring, der nu finder sted i Kommissionen i dette spørgsmål.
And I ask him again: does anyone in the Commission think about people and jobs when measures of this kind are adopted?
Til sidst: er Kommissionen klar over, at dens afgørelse svækker vor position i den styrkeprøve, der i øjeblikket er indledt med USA om import og eksport mellem dette land og Fællesskabet?
Patterson (PPE). - Mr President, I was able to ask the Commissioner my first question during the pause which the interpretation was not working and I am prepared to believe that there is no connection between the timing of these fines and the state of negotiations on restructuring.
García Arias (PSE). - (ES) Fru formand, da mit land indtrådte i Det Europæiske Fællesskab i 1986, blev det besluttet, at landets eksport skulle begrænses indtil december 1988. Derfor var det ikke muligt for landet at deltage i noget mængdekartel inden for Fællesskabet.
Sisó Cruellas (PPE). - (ES) Mr President, as Mrs Garcia Arias has said, Spain joined the European Community on 1 January 1986 and Spanish steel exports to the Community were limited until 31 December 1988, so during that period Spain did not participate in any cartel on quotas and prices for girders within the Community.
I løbet af 1989 og 1990 fejlede Ensidesa på det spanske marked på et tidspunkt, hvor der var økonomisk opsving og stor efterspørgsel på grund af De Olympiske Lege og Verdensudstillingen, der senere skulle afholdes.
In addition, in the years 1989 and 1990, Spanish steel firms producing girders were concentrating on the internal market, with work in connection with the Barcelona Olympic Games and the Seville International Fair.
Denne situation i Spanien blev udnyttet af andre europæiske producenter, der kunne eksportere.
And if we add to this the specific position of Spanish steel, which throughout those years was coping with a profound restructuring as a consequence of membership, the sanctions against the Spanish firms of Ensidesa and particularly Aristrain are disproportionate and unjust.
Kommissæren har også udtalt, at han er rede til - og det tror jeg, at vi skal tage imod - at give Europa-Parlamentet en mere detaljeret redegørelse.
I would ask him, is this not going to prejudice the whole idea of a level playing field in the steel industry?
Hvis den del af spansk stålindustri, der virkede på det spanske marked, indskrænkedes, og priserne desuden faldt, kan man stille følgende spørgsmål: Hvordan forklares disse virksomheders deltagelse i det såkaldte kartel?
And it must answer the question of whether or not it knew of, or actually encouraged, the meetings of the firms which made the cartels possible, and why, and it must give the reasons for the change that has now taken place inside the Commission on this issue.
Overvejer hr. Van Miert, der jo er socialist, hvad en formindskelse af antallet af arbejdspladser betyder?
Jackson, Christopher (PPE). - Madam President, two wrongs do not make a right.
Hr. kommissær, har denne beslutning sammenhæng med de problemer, der findes i forhandlingerne med de private virksomheder inden for rammerne af omstruktureringen?
The infringement of competition was severe, wrong and must stop.
I så fald, hvorfor rammes de virksomheder, der allerede har ydet ofre og foretaget nedskæringer?
But the greater wrong was continued anti-competitive state aids for social steel, granted by the Commission and Member States using Article 95 and thus keeping unprofitable firms in production.
Endelig vil jeg gerne spørge, om det er korrekt, at Kommissionen har truet med at tilbagetrække de sociale foranstaltninger, der er planlagt i forbindelse med den generelle omstrukturering, hvis de private virksomheder ikke formindsker deres kapacitet?
Does the Commission agree, as my colleague has pointed out, that there is in effect a clear linkage between these two wrongs?
Vil arbejdstagerne blive ramt af den igangværende omstrukturering?
I believe there is. Second, does the Commission realize that some companies, such as Co-Steel in my constituency, face extreme difficulties because of the unfair competition from inefficient companies, unprofitable companies, propped up by state aids.
Og jeg må igen spørge: Er der nogen i Kommissionen, der tænker på mennesker og beskæftigelse, når foranstaltninger af denne type gennemføres?
My third question is - and I speak here also for Mr McMillan Scott - will the Commission agree to review the fines on British steel and the other companies in the light of this, because they are disproportionate, and will it do this in connection with a new plan now required to restructure the industry without state aids?
Jeg vil gerne benytte denne lejlighed til over for kommissær Van Miert og os alle at understrege nødvendigheden af, at vi indleder en mere generel drøftelse af »stål«dossier'et, af stålindustri-i/ < Mwr'et.
Speciale (PSE). - (IT) Madam President, Commissioner Van Miert said the Commission has spent a very long time investigating a case of serious violations of the rules of competition by sixteen steel companies.
Efter de besværlige og selvmodsigende, men også positive afgørelser, der blev truffet i december sidste år om tilfældene af statsstøtte, er der nemlig ikke gjort fremskridt med hensyn til den samlede plan for stålindustrien. Og dette er meget alvorligt, meget foruroligende.
The Commissioner has also declared his willingness - and I think this will be welcomed - to give the European Parliament more detailed information.
Eurofer havde bebudet foranstaltninger til standsning af produktion for ti millioner tons. men der sker ikke noget.
There are perhaps grounds for questioning - as some colleagues seem to be doing - the very unfortunate timing of this initiative and the fact that it coincides with a serious steel crisis, and perhaps the amount of the fines inflicted on the firms too, but certainly not their legitimacy.
Jeg ved, at Kommissionen har haft møder med Eurofer, men vi ville gerne have mere præcise informationer, fordi situationen virkelig er meget alvorlig.
González Alvarez (NI). - (ES) Mr Commissioner, I second the speech made a few minutes ago by my comrade Ludivina Garcia Arias. But I want to raise one more issue.
Hvis der ikke sker fremskridt i denne sag, er der bl.a. stor risiko for, at der heller ikke sker fremskridt med hensyn til det sociale dossier, nemlig vedrørende de foranstaltninger, der skal ledsage omstrukturerings- og lukningsprocesserne.
We both come from a region in continuous reconversion: reconversion in mining - and Europe has had something to do with that, reconversion in agriculture - and Europe has had something to do with that, and now reconversion in the steel industry, which has caused the recent loss of 6,000 direct jobs, implying another 10.000 indirect jobs.
Og dette ville i sandhed være meget alvorligt for hele Fællesskabet.
I believe, as she has said, that you did not take account of the extremely serious labour situation in many European regions when you took such a decision, and took it late and badly.
Derfor beder jeg Dem, hr. kommissær, sige nogle ord om dette punkt.
I want to take this opportunity to emphasize to Commissioner Van Miert and to everyone here that we need to have a more general debate on steel.
Jeg mener, at et initiativ fra vor side til en mere generel plan under alle omstændigheder er bydende nødvendigt.
In fact, since last December's decisions - difficult, contradictory, but also positive - on cases of state aid, there has been no progress in the steel sector.
Sisó Cruelias (PPE). - (ES) Fru formand, som fru García Arias sagde, indtrådte Spanien i Det Europæiske Fælles skab den 1. januar 1986, og den spanske ståleksport til Fællesskabet var begrænset indtil den 31. december 1988, hvorfor Spanien i denne periode ikke deltog i noget mængde- eller priskartel for bjælker inden for Fælles skabet.
And this is very serious, very worry ing. I believe we need to hold a comprehensive debate on steel at the next sitting of Parliament, and try to under stand exactly what Eurofer and the private firms are doing to meet their commitments and the requirements of closure and restructuring, in other words to examine why certain initiatives are not progressing.
Patterson (PPE). - (EN) Fru formand, jeg havde held til at stille kommissæren mit første spørgsmål i pausen, da
So I want to ask this: did you take account of that situation when you took this decision?
Patterson at ændre den. for ikke at bringe et endnu større antal arbejdspladser i stålindustrien i fare. end det allerede er tilfældet på grund af omstruktureringsbestræbelserne i forening med en åbenbar krisesituation.
I ask the Commission if it is ready, if not to reverse its decision, at least to adapt it so as not to imperil even more jobs in the steel industry than are already at risk because of the restructuring efforts taking place on top of an obvious crisis situation.
Thi, hr kommissær, det er nødvendigt at skabe en forbindelse til den eksisterende situation.
Because. Mr Commissioner, the link has to be made with the existing situation.
18 millioner arbejdsløse, det er nok, så meget mere som den påtalte ulovlige aftale heldigvis har bidraget til at redde arbejdspladser og til at råde bod på Fællesskabets og især Rådets åbenlyse manglende evne til at forvalte EKSF-Traktaten på passende måde og til at bringe orden i sektoren.
18 million unemployed is quite enough, especially as the effects of the condemned agreement actually contributed to saving jobs and mitigating the blatant failure of the Community, especially the Council, to implement the ECSC treaty properly and bring order to the sector.
Hr. kommissær, jeg farer ikke hårdt frem imod Dem.
Mr Commissioner. I am not firing red cannon-balls at you.
Der er rigtignok det juridiske plan, men også de konsekvenser, som arbejdstagerne må lide under.
Of course there is the legal side, but there are also the consequences that will be suffered by the workers.
Hvis De skulle vælges som vi, ville De måske have reageret anderledes.
If you had to win elections like us, you might have reacted differently.
Min anden bemærkning er denne: kommissæren siger, at vi ikke kan gøre noget ved de 5,2 milliarder, der ydes i statsstøtte, fordi Rådet blokerer det. Ikke desto mindre går han videre med den bod, der rammer den private sektor.
As regards this coincidence of dates, admit first of all that there is never a good time to impose fines!
Det er som to brødre, der bor ved siden af, en stor og en lille, der begge kaster sten ind gennem ens vindue.
Perhaps after the European elections the pill might have been a bit easier to swallow, but I would certainly have earned the same comments.
Det vil ikke hjælpe stålindustrien, og jeg vil gerne spørge kommissæren, hvad han nu vil gøre ved disse former for statsstøtte?
I wanted to make the announcement during the Strasbourg session, but for reasons of quorum that was not possible.
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Christopher Jackson (PPE). - (EN) Fru formand, en dobbelt uret skaber ikke ret.
Can I also say to Mr Donnelly that when the Commission discusses fines, it always begins the discussion the day before the decision.
Overtrædelsen af konkurrencereglerne var alvorlig og forkert og må standse.
It does not do so earlier for reasons of confidentiality and so that the whole Commission can be fully engaged in the discussion.
Men den største uret var den fortsatte konkurrenceforvridende statsstøtte til »socialt stål«, der ydes af Kommissionen og visse medlemsstater, som påberåber sig artikel 95 og således holder urentable virksomheder i gang.
Next, as I said, there was a few months' delay. Many companies asked for more time because their legal services were overloaded due to difficulties with the United States on anti-dumping issues, so naturally, and quite rightly, my predecessor granted an extension to the response time.
Van Miert, medlem af Kommissionen. - (FR) Hr. for mand, dette sidste indlæg bekræfter mig i min fornemmelse af, at valgene for mange parlamentsmedlemmer er meget nær.
Van Miert, Member of the Commission. - (FR) Mr President, that last speech confirms my impression that for many Members the elections are extremely close.
Lad os sige tingene, som de er!
Let's be realistic!
Man kan ikke både anmode Kommissionen om at være barsk på konkurrencepolitikkens område og så - når dette berører en virksomhed eller en region - sige, at der skal gøres undtagelser. Kommissionen bør være konsekvent på dette område og - det gentager jeg - se bort fra særlige omstændigheder.
You cannot ask the Commission to be strict on competition policy, and then say exceptions must be made when this affects a given firm or region.
Holder man sig ikke til denne rettesnor, er det konkurrencepolitikken, man begynder at afvikle.
If we abandon that approach, we will have begun to dismantle competition policy.
For det andet: gør Kommissionen sig klart, at visse virksomheder, f.eks.
I would also like to see agreement within this Parliament.
Co-Steel i min valg kreds, står over for betydelige vanskeligheder på grund af den illoyale konkurrence fra ineffektive virksomheder, tabgivende virksomheder, der holdes oppe ved statsstøtte?
Some criticize the Commission for taking these measures at this time, and say it has not been sufficiently hard on companies benefitting from state aid.
Mit tredje spørgsmål er - og nu taler jeg også for hr. McMillan Scott - er Kommissionen rede til at tage den bod, derer pålagt British Steel og de andre virksomheder, op til fornyet overvejelse i lyset af dette, fordi den er proportionsløs, og vil Kommissionen gøre dette i sammenhæng med en ny plan, der nu er påkrævet med henblik på at omstrukturere industrien uden statsstøtte?
Several speakers said that. Other speeches, concentrating on the problems of subsidized companies in Spain, Italy or Germany, blame the Commission for being too hard and not taking the social aspects into account - which is not true, by the way.
Jeg så også gerne, at man blev enig i Europa-Parlamentet.
I would also like people to understand that this is a lengthy procedure.
Det er blevet sagt af flere talere.
The minutes have to be drawn up.
Men jeg må dog stille yderligere et spørgsmål.
Actually this case should have been settled several months ago, but at the time.
Man skal vide, hvad man vil.
We must be clear about what we want.
Nogle bebrejder os, at vi ikke har været tilstrækkelig barske, når det gælder statsstøtte, andre bebrejder os, at vi har været alt for barske.
Some blame us for not coming down hard enough on state aid. others blame us for being too hard.
Man bør sige tingene, som de er, og konstatere disse modsigelser.
We have to be realistic and recognize these contradictions.
De har hørt, hvad visse af Deres kolleger har sagt, og De ved, hvad visse af virksomhederne siger.
You have heard the speeches here and you know what some of the companies are saying.
Hr. Donnelly's ytringer modsiger fuldstændigt, hvad der blev sagt af visse andre talere.
Mr Donnelly's remarks completely contradicted some of the other speakers. Have I got it wrong?
Tager jeg fejl? Nej vel!
I do not think so.
Jeg vil gerne spørge Dem: Overvejede De denne situation, da beslutningen blev taget?
Personally I would have preferred it to have gone further - and so would some of my colleagues.
Lulling (PPE). - (FR) Fru formand, ingen kan forbyde Kommissionen, der er Traktatens vogter, at drage omsorg for en korrekt anvendelse af denne traktat.
Despite that, and in difficult circumstances, needing to obtain unanimity on the Council, with ministers having the right of veto, we succeeded in obtaining a reduction in capacity of 5.5 million.
Jeg personlig ville have foretrukket - og visse af mine kolleger ligeså - at gå videre.
I come to the links that some people have made with the general problem.
I dette øjeblik henstillede Eurofer indtrængende til Kommissionen at acceptere denne aftale, fordi det var bedre end slet ingen aftale.
That is another debate, a debate about a Commission plan to try to give this sector reasonable help, that is. without permitting cartels, or being influenced by the obvious crises.
Sådan er virkeligheden!
This is being done at various levels.
Det er sandt-endnu en gang -at det måske ikke var tilstrækkeligt, men det var det bedste. Kommissionen kunne opnå i dette øjeblik.
But I have to recognize, as Mr Bangemann has done, that contrary to what has been agreed, indeed asked for by the sector itself, and what has been approved and confirmed by the Council, the Commission is not now in a position to provide larger reductions in capacity.
Denne aftale skal nu gennemføres i alle dens aspekter.
this will be achieved.
Har De tvivl, skal De udspørge mig, jeg er rede til at svare Dem.
So no-one can say that nothing is happening.
Der er de 5.5 millioner fra de statsstøttede virksomheder, og det vil blive gennemført.
I am in favour of a detailed debate on steel policy.
Hvad angår Anzio f.eks.. er der fastsat en dato for lukningen af denne virksomhed.
I want that debate, so that all the facts can be put on the table.
Det er en del af afgørelsen. Lad derfor være med at sige. at der intet sker! Denne aftale fra december får mange konsekvenser, selv om den ikke er blevet så vidtgående, som visse ønskede, og som Kommissionen selv ønskede.
The Commission has nothing to hide, quite the contrary.
Hvad angår dette sammenfald af datoer, må De først indrømme, at det aldrig er det rette tidspunkt at pålægge bod!
Several weeks ago the Commission was forced to recognize that a crucial element of its plan could not be achieved.
Hvad ville De have sagt, hvis det havde fundet sted i december, eller hvis boden var blevet pålagt i midten af sidste år. eller hvis den blev pålagt om et halvt år?
In our discussions with the sector we have found that while at one time we were being asked to go further, all the companies are now beginning to say that it is their neighbours that need restructuring.
Jeg stiller Dem spørgsmålet.
And everyone has a good reason not to do anything any more.
Måske ville pillen være gledet ned lidt lettere efter Europa-valgene, men jeg ville uden tvivl have haft ret til de samme bemærkninger.
So probably no more will be done apart from what is envisaged in Italy with the small producers, and even the facilities proposed by the Commission for pre-financing may not be used.
Hvad datoerne angår, kunne jeg altså have valgt en anden uge.
We know what happened in the Klöckner case.
Derfor vil man sandsynligvis ikke gøre mere end det, der kan påtænkes i Italien med de mindre producenter, selv når man ikke udnytter de faciliteter, som Kommissionen havde foreslået med henblik på forhåndsfinansieringen.
When the Commission thinks it has a solid case, and that case is contested, the Court of Justice is there - that is democracy - to correct, if necessary, any errors the Commission may have committed.
Højst sandsynligt vil der ikke blive tale om en yderligere nedskæring af kapaciteten.
But I have to add that some of you, like some of the steelmakers, say that certain officials advised them.
Man ser i øvrigt klart, hvad der sker i tilfældet Klöckner.
If we ask which officials, the reply is that they are in DGIII.
Sigmar har netop undertegnet aftalen med denne virksomhed og altså også med Arbed.
After an investigation, and in the absence of proof, I can tell you that there is nothing in it.
Det er altså en anden politik, som Eurofer har ønsket, og som medlemmer af Eurofer gennemfører. Det skal klart konstateres.
If there is evidence, let them produce it or take it to the Court of Justice.
Det er ikke et tjenestemandsanliggende, det er et anliggende for Kommissionen som sådan. Derfor har den kun gjort, hvad den også gjorde før.
I have already gone on too long, but it was my understanding that a large number of Members were very interested.
For Kommissionens vedkommende drejer det sig nu om at vide, hvad den bør stille op med denne plan.
Now the Commission has to work out what to do with its plan.
I øjeblikket kan jeg ikke sige Dem det. fordi der på sidste møde med Eurofer blev indgået en aftale om. at vi skulle give hinanden en tænkepause, før vi mødes igen til marts.
I cannot tell you at the moment because at the last meeting with Eurofer it was agreed that we would allow each other time to consider before we meet again in March.
Derefter vil Kommissionen fastlægge sin holdning med henblik på samlingen i Ministerrådet i april.
After that the Commission will determine its position with a view to the Council of Ministers' meeting in April.
Så langt er vi nået. hvad den generelle politik angår.
That is the current position as regards the general approach.
Virksomhederne kommer med deres advokater. Vi skal derfor foranstalte høringer med hver enkelt.
Who says the Commission has done nothing to try to help the sector to restructure itself?
Det tager adskillige dage. undertiden adskillige uger.
But, I repeat, if we are not in a position to carry out the whole of the plan, then we have to revise it.
Vi skal give møde i det rådgivende udvalg. På ny flere frister, alt sammen på flere sprog.
The inconsistency of that must be recognized.
Alt dette for at respektere forsvarets rettigheder.
This is one of the Commission's most important tasks for 1994.