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I denne forbindelse vil jeg da også takke mine forgængere, som i årenes løb har opbygget en fast retspraksis.
The explanatory statement has also been prepared in close consultation and discussion with the committee as a whole.
Bloch von Blottnitz (V). - (DE) Hr. formand, onsdag formiddag er nu desværre igen givet væk.
Bloch von Blottnitz (V). - (DE) Mr President, Wednesday morning, unfortunately, is fully booked once again.
Jeg vil imidlertid gerne bede Dem om, at der ved fastsættelsen af næste dagsorden bliver sørget for, at forhandlingerne om Miljø udvalgets betænkninger ikke altid skal finde sted lige før midnat.
But I would like to ask you that, when the next agenda is adopted, care be taken to ensure that debates on reports by the Committee on the Environment are not always held at five minutes to midnight.
Jeg ville også gerne en gang imellem tale om eftermiddagen.
I too should welcome an opportunity to speak in the afternoon.
Generelt er debatterne om Miljøudvalgets betænkninger midnatsforestillinger.
Debates on reports by the Environment Committee are generally late, late shows.
Det har allerede tidligere været sådan fra 1984 til 1989, og nu er det galt igen.
That was the case between 1984 and 1989, and now the whole business has started again.
Måske kunne der foretages en noget mere retfærdig fordeling. ling.
Amongst present Members, our Vice-President, Mr Gil-Robles, has also given great help in drawing up our lines of policy.
I denne forbindelse må jeg beklage, at akterne i sagen mod hr. Tapie havde været offentliggjort i et fransk ugeblad, flere dage før medlemmerne af Forretningsordensudvalget havde mu lighed for at sætte sig ind i de papirer, som statsadvokaten ved Cour d'Appel d'Aix-en-Provence fremsendte.
Wijsenbeek study the file supplied by the state prosecutor of the Aix-en-Provence Court of Appeal on the charges against Mr Tapie, that document was published in a French weekly.
Det nuværende forslag, der går ud på ikke-ophævelsen af immuniteten, tager især udgangspunkt i den tidligere nævnte, af dobbeltmandatet afledte, beslutning fra den franske Nationalforsamling og anvendelsen af artikel 26 i den franske forfatning.
The present proposal, for non-waiver of immunity, is prompted above all by the decision of the French Assemblée which I mentioned and which results from the double mandate and the application of Article 26 of the French constitution.
Kombinationen af disse to faktorer bevirker, at vor egen betænkning rent faktisk bliver over flødig.
The combination of the two factors means that in fact our own report is supererogatory.
Vor kollega vil under alle omstændigheder blive retsforfulgt, og når dommen er blevet endelig, kan den også fuldbyrdes.
Our fellowMember will in any case be prosecuted and if the judgment acquires the force of res judicata it may also be put into effect.
Jeg beklager også, at detaljer om udvalgets afstemning er kommet ud.
I also deplore the fact that details of the committee's vote have been disclosed.
Efter udvalgets afstemning om hr. Wijsenbeeks betænkning har man i Frankrig kunnet læse og høre, at medlemmer af Europa-Parlamentet skulle have gjort sig skyldige i at dække over hr. Tapie, at de havde afvist at ophæve hans immunitet, fordi de mente, der var tale om en politisk sammensværgelse mod ham, at vi havde vurderet, at den franske dommers anmodning hverken var holdbar eller pålidelig osv.
After the committee voted on Mr Wijsenbeek's report, it was being written and said in France that the Members of the European Parliament had been guilty of conspiring with Mr Tapie, that they had refused to waive his immunity because they thought there was a political conspiracy against him, that we felt that the request by the French judge was not fair or made in good faith, etc.
Vore kolleger fra det franske parlament har, bortset fra kontrol med den pågældendes kommen og gåen, ikke foreslået nogen midlertidig tilbageholdelse.
Our colleagues in the French Parliament have not proposed any preventive detention of the person concerned apart from monitoring his whereabouts.
Heri ligger netop en for os betydningsfuld overvejelse.
That is an important consideration for us.
Det kan jo ikke forholde sig således, at udøvelsen af et europæisk mandat bør kunne underkastes en national kontrol.
It is not acceptable for the execution of a European mandate to be subject to national supervision. sion.
Vort udvalg har nægtet at høre på sådanne skinargumenter, og jeg vil gerne gøre det helt klart, at fransk retsvæsen frit kan udføre sit arbejde lige fra forundersøgelserne til domfældelse og fængsling.
Our committee refused to indulge in these bogus arguments, and I would like to make it absolutely clear that French justice can take its course entirely unimpeded, from examination to sentence, and all the way to imprisonment.
Vi er i øvrigt enige med vore franske kolleger i, at varetægtsfængsling, med henvisning til at man vil forhindre påvirkning af vidner seks år efter dato, må udelukkes som overdrevent.
Moreover, we agree with our French colleagues that preventive detention in order to prevent influencing witnesses six years after the material events occurred must be excluded as being excessive.
Havde dét været ønsket, havde .denne påvirkning jo kunnet finde sted for længe siden.
Any influence could have been brought to bear long ago if that had been the intention.
I øvrigt er nogle af disse påstande, der kommer fra et medlem af Forretningsordensudvalget, som har været til stede under samtlige forhandlinger og afstemninger, blevet fremsat mod absolut bedre vidende.
Furthermore, some of these allegations by a member of the Committee on the Rules of Procedure who was present throughout the entire discussion and vote were made in the utmost bad faith.
Der er intet i hr. Wijsenbeeks betænkning, hverken i konklusionerne eller i behandlingen i det hele taget, der understøtter disse på stande.
There is nothing in Mr Wijsenbeek's report or in the conclusions of that report or in the committee's discussions to support these allegations.
Ligeledes må den omstændighed, at der begæres varetægtsfængsling, fordi den pågældende ikke skulle have fast bopæl eller opholdssted, afvises som gennemført latterlig. Dette så meget desto mere som det franske retsvæsen selv hos udlejeren af hr. Tapies bolig i Paris har informeret sig om, hvorledes denne betalte sin leje.
Equally the fact that preventive custody is requested because the person concerned has no permanent residence or place of abode may be rejected out of hand as entirely ridiculous, the more so as the French judicial authorities themselves have enquired from Mr Tapie's landlord in Paris how he paid his rent.
Netop derfor må det undre os. at der overhovedet er fremsat en anmodning om ophævelse af immuniteten.
That makes us wonder why a request for waiver of immunity has been made at all.
Hvad skal denne anmodning tjene til hvis, således som det allerede er besluttet af den franske Nationalforsamling, varetægtsfængsling alligevel ikke kan idømmes, men at efterforskningen samtidig på den anden side godt kan fortsættes, og at dommen alligevel kan erklæres for endelig og fuldbyrdes.
What is the request for if, as also decided by the French Assemblée, preventive detention cannot be imposed, whilst at the same time supervision may be continued and also a sentence having the force of res judicata may be executed?
Vi som medlemmer af Europa-Parlamentet har ingen grund til at tolerere de beskyldninger, der er fremsat af hr. Thierry og hr. Jean-Pierre.
We as Members of the European Parliament cannot allow the accusations made against us by Mr Thierry Jean-Pierre to pass unchallenged.
Jeg finder mig ikke berettiget til at beskæftige mig med årsagerne til, at hr. JeanPierre plæderer for ophævelse af hr. Tapies immunitet.
I do not take it upon myself to question Mr Jean-Pierre's reasons for arguing in favour of waiving Mr Tapie's immunity.
Men herved fremhæver han retskaffenheden og hæderligheden i det valg, hans kolleger i Forretningsordensudvalget har truffet med stort flertal.
He, for his part, should give his colleagues on the Committee on the Rules of Procedure credit for uprightness and honesty in making the decision they did, a decision which was reached by a large majority.
Hvis man vil optræde som dommer over sine kolleger, må man finde sig i at blive bedømt ud fra samme strenge kriterier.
Mr President, anyone who presumes to sit in judgement on his colleagues must himself expect to be judged by the yardstick of his own scrupulousness.
Det kan risikere at blive hårdt.
That may prove a heavy burden to bear.
Og under forbehold af disse bemærkninger opfordrer jeg mine kolleger til at stemme for Wijsenbeekbetænkningen.
And, subject to these remarks, I ask my colleagues to give their approval to the Wijsenbeek report.
Her hævner det sig nok en gang, at vi ikke har vor egen statut, idet der nu bliver handlet i henhold til fransk ret, og vi således egentlig ikke kommer på banen.
We are paying once more for not having a statute of our own, because this is now being dealt with under French law so we do not actually have a say.
Mutatis mutandis gælder det samme for den pågældendes konkurs, som vor kollega Vecchi, der er ansvarlig for valgs prøvelse, har underrettet vort udvalg om. Man må spørge sig selv, om dette er en gyldig grund til ikke at kunne være folkevalgt.
The same situation applies, mutatis mutandis, as reported to our committee by Mr Vecchi, who is responsible for credentials in the event of bankruptcy of a Member.
Ikke desto mindre udelukker fransk ret dette, og det har vi bare at rette os efter.
Nevertheless French law excludes it and we can only accept the position.
Ud fra alle disse overvejelser har vort udvalg i overens stemmelse med princippet om »in dubio pro reo« med stort flertal vedtaget ikke at tillade ophævelsen og dette ikke til benefice for den pågældende, men snarere fordi det er vor institutions egne rettigheder og egen position, der står på spil.
On all these grounds our committee has decided by a large majority, in accordance with the principle dubio pro reo, not to agree to a waiver, and that is not for the sake of the person concerned but rather because our institution's own rights and own position are involved.
Beskyldningerne mod hr. Tapie er alvorlige.
The allegations against Mr Tapie are serious.
Så vidt jeg kan se, har de ikke noget at gøre med hans politiske aktiviteter, men det er ikke vores job at kende ham skyldig eller uskyldig, selv om nogle af vores kolleger, inklusive hr. Jean-Pierre, åbenbart gerne vil optræde som dommer, jury og skarpretter.
They do not relate, as far as we can see, to his political activities but it is not our job to judge his guilt or his innocence, even if some of our colleagues, including Mr Jean-Pierre, seem to want to act as judge, jury and executioner.
Vi er af den opfattelse, at hr. Tapie skal møde sine anklagere i retten.
We are of the opinion that Mr Tapie should face his accusers in court.
Men på grund af ændringer i den franske lovgivning er det ikke længere nødvendigt at ophæve hans parlamentariske immunitet for at få ham stillet for retten.
But it is no longer necessary for his immunity to be waived for that to take place, because of changes in French law.
I Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Med lemmernes Immunitet kunne vi vælge enten at anvende artikel 6, stk. 4, så hans immunitet blev ophævet med visse
We had a choice in the Committee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities of either using Rule 6(4) allowing for his immunity to be waived conditionally, i.e. not allowing him to be held in preventive detention, or merely to refuse the waiver.
Fayot (PSE), formand for Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet. - (FR) Hr. formand, i egenskab af formand for Udvalget for Forretningsordenen vil jeg tillade mig først at komplimentere ordføreren for den måde, hvorpå han har udført sin opgave.
I should also emphasize, because this is the first case of its type to arise in this House, that Parliament has adopted very precise rules for dealing with matters like this.
Det er sket med stor objektivitet og uden indflydelse af partimæssige eller politiske holdninger.
Among those rules, one which I believe is especially important is the confidentiality rule.
Ligeledes vil jeg takke medlemmerne af Forretningsordensudvalget for deres seriøse og rene håndtering af denne sag.
In view of this, I must first of all deplore the fact that, several days before the members of the Committee on the Rules of Procedure were able to
Guinebertière (UPE). - (FR) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, bør vi i dag ophæve en af vore kollegers parlamentariske immunitet?
Guinebertière (UPE). ­ (FR) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, is it necessary for us today to waive the parliamentary immunity of one of our number?
Juristerne fortæller os, at det ikke vil betyde nogen væsentlig ændring, fordi Frankrig ikke har ophævet Bernard Tapies immunitet.
Legal opinion has shown that doing so would change very little, since France has not waived Bernard Tapie's immunity.
Vi kan ophæve den parlamentariske immunitet, vi kan ophæve immuniteten med visse forbehold, eller vi kan nægte at ophæve immuniteten.
conditionally waive the immunity, or we can refuse to waive the immunity.
I artikel 6, stk. 6, står der imidlertid, at hvis hr. Wijsenbeeks betænkning forkastes, betragtes det modsatte som vedtaget.
However, Rule 6(6) states that if Mr Wijsenbeek's report is rejected the contrary will be deemed to be adopted.
Jeg er ikke sikker på, hvad det modsatte er, når der er tre muligheder.
I am not sure what the contrary is when you have a choice of three options.
Hr. formand, det kan De måske afgøre og derefter forelægge sagen for Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, så vi kan overveje passende foranstaltninger for lignende situationer i fremtiden.
Mr President, maybe you can rule on that and refer the matter to the Rules Commit­tee so that we can consider appropriate action for future occasions of this kind.
Lad mig derfor se det ud fra borgerens side, de borgere, vi repræsenterer.
Let me give you my reaction as a citizen ­ one of the citizens whose representatives we are.
De nærer ikke særligt høje tanker om retsvæsenet og stiller mange spørgsmålstegn ved Europa.
They have a pretty poor opinion of justice, and are asking a lot of questions about Europe.
Manden på gaden er overbevist om, at der bag de politiske personer, vi er. gemmer sig mere eller mindre uhæderlige mennesker, som er mere fremtrædende hos nogen end hos andre.
The man in the street is convinced that if you scratch a politician you will sometimes find a more or less dishonest person, and some such people are more clearly identifiable than others.
Han er også overbevist om, at vi er det, man kalder »urørlige«.
He is also convinced that we are, as they say, 'untouchable'.
Brendan Donnelly (PPE). - (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil starte med at gøre en ting helt klart.
Donnelly, Brendan (PPE). ­ Mr President, I should like to begin by making one point clear above all others.
Hvis jeg troede, at vi kunne træffe en afgørelse, der kunne forhindre eller van skeliggøre den retsforfølgning, som hr. Tapie nu underkastes i Frankrig, eller som kunne forhindre ham i at betale en bøde eller afsone en fængselsstraf, som det franske retssystem måtte idømme ham, ville jeg være den første til at insistere på en ophævelse af hans immunitet, og jeg ville ikke have givet min støtte til Wijsenbeek-betænkningen i udvalget.
If I believed that any decision taken by us today could hinder or hamper the court proceedings to which Mr Tapie is now subject in France or if I believed that any decision taken by us today could prevent him from paying any fine or serving any prison sentence to which he might be condemned in the French courts, I would be the first to insist on the waiver of his immunity and I would not have supported the Wijsen­beek report in committee.
Personlig er jeg ikke begejstret for systemet med parlamentarisk immunitet.
The system of parliamentary immunities is one that I view personally with little enthu­siasm.
I demokratier med et retssystem kan det ikke være rimeligt, at parlamentarikere får positiv særbehandling i forhold til deres medborgere.
In democracies subject to the rule of law there can be little scope for the apparent preferential treatment of parliamentarians over their fellow citizens.
Bør man hindre sagen i at gå sin normale gang. når det drejer sig om forhold, der har 'fundet sted. før den pågældende person blev medlem af EuropaParlamenter?
Are we to prevent justice from following its normal course in dealing with a case which predates the entry of the person concerned into the European Parliament?
Bør den parlamentariske immunitet beskytte en folkevalgt, når sagen ikke har noget at gøre med politiske aktiviteter, men hører under den almindelige ret?
Is parlia­mentary immunity intended to protect an elected repre­sentative in connection with matters which have nothing whatever to do with political activity but are matters for the common law?
Forretningsordensudvalget fremfører velbegrundede argumenter med hensyn til retsprocedure, men i retsstater som vores er der ingen grund til at have parlamentarisk immunitet, der rækker ud over den politiske aktivitet.
The Committee on the Rules of Procedure puts forward arguments connected with legal procedure which are certainly very reasonable, but in states governed by the rule of law, such as ours, parliamentary immunity has no reason to exist outside political activity.
Ved under disse omstændigheder at stemme ja til ophævelse af den parlamentariske immunitet siger jeg samtidig ja til, at retfærdigheden kan ske fyldest.
In voting yes to the waiving of parliamentary immunity under these conditions I am saying yes to the free exercise of justice.
Skal vi bekræfte dem, der tror, at statsborgerskabet er delt op i en klasse for dem, der bliver beskyttet, og en anden klasse for dem. der ikke gør?
Are we going to confirm the misgivings of those who believe that there are two categories of citizen ­ those who are protected and those who are not?
Jeg er klar over, at nogle af mine kolleger vil blive overraskede over anbefalingen i Wijsenbeek-betænkningen, men et stort flertal i udvalget konkluderede, at de lovgivnings- og proceduremæssige argumenter i denne sag - og jeg understreger »i denne sag«, da hr. Tapie er involveret i andre retssager, hvor en anmodning om ophævelse af hans immunitet ikke nødvendigvis vil resultere i de samme overvejelser, som vi gør os i dag - alt i alt pegede i retning af, at Europa-Parlamentet ikke bør ophæve hr. Tapies immunitet.
I am aware that the recommendation of the Wijsenbeek report will be surprising to some colleagues, but the great majority of the committee concluded that, on balance, the legal and procedural arguments in this case pointed again any action by Parliament to raise Mr Tapie's immunity. I stress 'in this case' since Mr Tapie is involved in other legal proceedings where a request for the waiver of his immunity would not necessarily raise the same considerations as those we are looking at today.
Ligesom hr. Fayot tager jeg både personligt og politisk afstand fra visse offentlige udtalelser fra et medlem af Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Med lemmernes Immunitet.
Like Mr Fayot, I resent ­ both personally and politically ­certain public comments made by a member of the Com­mittee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities.
Ord som »medvidenhed« og »skandaløst« hører ikke hjemme i en parlamentarisk debat.
Words such as 'connivance' and 'scandalous' have no place in parliamentary debate.
Vi må arbejde på den baggrund, at vi accepterer og anerkender andres hensigter, også når vi ikke er enige med dem.
We must go forward on the basis that we accept and recognize the good faith of others, even when we disagree with them.
Nordmann (ELDR). - (FR) Hr. formand, jeg nærer dyb beundring for Florus Wijsenbeeks dialektiske talent, men jeg kan ikke følge ham i hans konklusioner, eftersom alt i Parlamentets retspraksis taler stærkest for en ophævelse af hr. Tapies immunitet.
Nordmann (ELDR). ­ (FR) Mr President, I have a deep admiration for Fionas Wijsenbeek's dialectical talents, but I am unable to agree with his conclusions. Every parlia­mentary precedent, in fact, is in favour of waiving Mr Tapie's parliamentary immunity.
Alt taler også for henvisning til fornyet udvalgsbehandling af en betænkning, der forelægger os to alternativer, skønt artikel 6, stk. 4. i forretningsordenen giver os mulighed for at vælge mellem tre alternativer, og navnlig mangler vi muligheden for at tilslutte os Den Franske Nationalforsamlings holdning, der har ude lukket en varetægtsfængsling af hr. Tapie, samtidig med at den har ophævet hans parlamentariske immunitet.
And everything is in favour of referring back to committee a report which ν confronts us with a binary choice, whereas Rule 6(4) of our Rules of Procedure offers us the option of a ternary choice and, in particular, the option of aligning ourselves with the position adopted by the French National Assembly, which has rejected the possibility of holding Mr Tapie on remand, while waiving his parliamentary immunity.
Sandheden 'er den, at flere af vore kolleger en måned efter François Mitterrands bort gang tøver med at ophæve en parlamentarikers immunitet, der har været minister under François Mitterrand.
The truth is that many of our colleagues, one month after the death of François Mitterrand, are reluctant to waive the parliamen­tary immunity of one of his former ministers.
Det er en midlertidig situation.
This situation is temporary.
Til alles uheld løser den ikke proble met.
Unfortunately for all concerned, it settles nothing.
Der er en enkelt væsentlig årsag til, at Udvalget for Forretningsordenen anbefalede, at man forkaster anmodningen om ophævelse af hr. Tapies immunitet.
The fundamental reason why the Committee on the Rules of Procedure recommended rejection of the request for waiver of Mr Tapie's immunity is simple.
Det er det faktum, at kombinationen af de nye bestemmelser i den franske forfatning og den franske nationalforsamlings af gørelse i december sidste år har gjort den oprindelige anmodning ugyldig.
It is that the combination of new French national rules and the decision of the National Assembly in December last year has rendered the original request null and void.
Uanset hvilken afgørelse. Europaparlamentet træffer i dag, vil retsforfølgningen af hr. Tapie fortsætte, og hvis dommen ikke falder ud til hans fordel, vil det få samme økonomiske eller frihedsberøvende konsekvenser for ham som for enhver anden borger.
Irrespective of any decision taken here today, the proceedings against Mr Tapie will continue and he will bear the financial or liberty­depriving consequences of an adverse judgment like any other citizen.
Han vil ikke blive fængslet, før den endelige dom er afsagt, fordi nationalforsamlingen har afgjort, at han frit skal kunne udøve sit nationale mandat.
He will not be put in prison before final sentence is given because the National Assembly has decided that he shall be free to continue in the exercise of his national mandate.
Der er i realiteten ikke længere tale om en reel anmodning om ophævelse af hr. Tapies immunitet. Under disse om
In effect, there is no longer any substantial request on the table for the waiver of Mr Tapie's immunity.
Aelvoet (V). - (NL) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, således som mange allerede har sagt. er det spørgsmål, som vi i dag står overfor, ikke spørgsmålet, om hr. Tapie er skyldig eller ej i den sag, som vi bliver hørt i. Det er domstolene og
Aelvoet (V). ­ (NL) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, as many Members have already said, the question actu­ally before us today is not whether, in the matter on which we are being consulted, Mr Tapie is guilty.
Desuden er det også nødvendigt at skelne mellem de forskellige forholdsregler.
Aelvoet exact nature of the proposed coercive measures had not been specified.
Hvad det angår, er alle betingelser opfyldt, for at han vil kunne behandles som en almindelig borger, hverken mere men heller eller mindre.
As far as that is concerned all the conditions are fulfilled for him to be treated as a normal citizen, no more and no less.