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Vi ønsker ikke, at Simon og andre som han skal være døde forgæves, så jeg vil anmode Kommissionen om sammen med os at godkende ændringsforslaget om at afskaffe undtagelsesbestemmelser for unge såvel som for børn.
Spencer (PPE). - Madam President, I should like to ask colleagues not to confuse those issues where the British Government is holding up progress, for its own perfectly good reasons, with those such as this, where the British Government has agreed the compromise in Council.
Det her er ikke Dickens; det er børn, der gør noget, som de længe har gjort, som mine egne børn gør, og som styrker deres uafhængighed; det er lommepenge, det er uafhængighed for børn på 13, Meller 15.
To Mr Torres Couto I would say that people have become more pessimistic about the future of the European Union.
Det er latterligt at bruge dette eksempel til at forsøge at anklage Det Forenede Kongerige for betingelser for udnyttelse af børns arbejdskraft som i det 19. århundrede.
I concede that point, but I think that there has been a huge advance insofar as the whole buoyancy of the future construction of Europe is concerned.
Det er nedværdigende for de debatter, som vi med rette må holde om vigtige sager her i Parlamentet; og det forvirrer offentligheden i mit eget land og, er jeg bange for, andre medlemsstater.
It took place at the back end of last year following the ratification, following the successful completion of the GATT round and also the success of the White Paper.
Så jeg er glad for, at kommissæren har forklaret sagen, og jeg håber, at Den Socialistiske Gruppe og min ven, Stephen Hughes, der skal til at tage ordet, vil afstå fra deres latterlige angreb på noget fuldstændig harmløst.
What we have to do now, in my opinion, is that we collectively - all the institutions, the Commission, Parliament and the Council -have to put into effect the details of that White Paper on growth in competitiveness and employment.
Hughes (PSE). - (EN) Hr. formand, jeg har været ret detaljeret gennem ILO-konventionens tekst og den fælles holdning.
It is an action plan, it is the framework that can achieve the desired result that we talk about here, giving an opportunity to young people and to the long-term unemployed to have a participative role in the future of the Union.
Jeg er enig med Kommissionen i, at ILO synes at have misforstået sagen.
We could collectively agree to give it the necessary push.
Derer små forskelle mellem de to tekster.
I am not interested in that!
Vi vil stille ændringsforslag angående disse små forskelle, og jeg håber, at vi sammen med Kommissionen kan tage fat på dem.
I think we are going to see some initiatives in that regard in the immediate future and I would hope that the level of pessimism that you refer to can be diminished over the next number of years and bring about a happier situation in relation to unemployment. ment.
Pronk (PPE). - (NL) Hr. formand, jeg må sige, at jeg er glad for denne forhandling.
I really do not think it enhances the quality of our debate to make broad-brush statements in this way.
Jeg er også glad for kommissærens redegørelse.
We have an agreement in Council.
Jeg synes, at det er vigtigt, at det tages op under denne forhandling.
I ask colleagues to be more precise when they are dealing with these individual points.
Men jeg vil gerne tale om det store problem, nemlig det gabende hul midt i den fælles holdning, der udgøres af undtagelsesbestemmelserne med hensyn til arbejdstid for Det Forenede Kongerige, både for børnearbejde og for unges arbejde.
We will have an opportunity to discuss all these aspects of the common position again, but I value greatly the contributions that have been made today in this very important matter.
Det er næppe overraskende, at Det Forenede Kongerige ikke har ratificeret konvention nr. 138, der allerede er blevet omtalt i dag.
Flynn, Member of the Commission. - Some of the questions the Commission cannot answer because if I did, I would preempting other decisions that need to be taken in other places, including this House, at a later date.
Faktisk opsagde den i 1989 konventionen fra 1919 om unges arbejde under jorden.
I think the Member knows that full well.
Der findes ikke nogen som helst kontrol på dette område.
That is the one I am referring to there and which that article is based on, not on anything that I have said in particular at any one time.
Jeg tror, at vi som Parlament endnu ikke kan afgive nogen definitiv udtalelse om spørgsmålet, om dette nu er tilfældet eller ej; dertil må vi endnu se noget nærmere på sagen, og det kan vi udmærket gøre inden for rammerne af den videre behandling af direktivet.
van Velzen (PSE). - (NL) Madam President, the Commissioner says his position is already known because he previously made a statement on this subject, the protec tion of young people.
Det er således muligt. Hvad det angår tror jeg, at der er sket en tydeliggørelse.
That may be so, but I cannot recall hearing him make that statement officially here in the House or to the Social Affairs Committee.
Jeg tror, at det er en vigtig følge af denne forhandling.
I thus ask him to outline that position more precisely.
Jeg ville selv egentlig helst have - hvis det nogen sinde vil blive muligt - at Fællesskabet selv blev medlem af ILO, foruden medlemsstaterne. Det ville sandsynligvis give en løsning på dette problem.
Does that earlier statement of yours imply, Mr Flynn, that in your view the directive in its present form, the common position, is unacceptable and must thus be rejected in this form by Parliament?
Jeg er helt enig i Kommissionens fordømmelse af undtagelsesbestemmelserne for Det Forenede Kongerige med hensyn til børns ugentlige arbejdstid.
I have to say that I regret that there was a need for the introduction of a supplementary transitional period for the application of certain provisions of Articles 8 and 9 as regards the United Kingdom. I have said that.
Jeg er ikke enig i noget af, hvad Tom Spencer har sagt.
That is my position as I come here to Parliament.
Hvis denne ordning findes i Det Forenede Kongerige, hvad er Det Forenede Kongerige så bange for i minimumsbestemmelserne i dette direktiv?
I do not know how Parliament is going to react to that.
Jeg vil gå endnu videre og anmode kommissæren om igen at overveje Kommissionens hold ning med hensyn til undtagelsesbestemmelsen for unge.
Parliament has the common position but we will have to await the outcome of the debate here before I can decide what position to take vis-a-vis promoting the matter further.
Nu kommeren række andre bemærkninger, bl.a. om hvad hr. Cot har sagt.
Fuchs (PSE). - (FR) Madam President, it seems to me that the Commissioner has not replied to the essential question that was put to him just now by the various speakers.
Jeg vil dog sige, at jeg somme tider bliver træt af den måde, hvorpå de engelske regeringsrepræsentanter optræder i Rådet, i modsætning til repræsentanterne her i Parlamentet.
Insofar as health and safety and related matters are concerned, I would certainly like to see a situation where the 12 Member States act together and in cooperation.
Det er et vanskeligt punkt, og det ser somme tider ud, som om de derved ikke just fremmer deres valgresultater, men det er ikke det, vi diskuterer her.
It is the best way to proceed, if we could have the 12 Member States agree on what are essentially matters concerning the quality of life and living and working standards for workers.
Van Velzen (PSE). - (NL) Fru formand, jeg tror, at hr. Flynns ord giver anledning til at læse ILO's brev med nogen forsigtighed, og også et brev fra fru Smet, en belgisk minister, giver mig anledning dertil.
Thirdly, I have not been able to visit Sudan. I did make a request early on in my work on this report, which was rejected (incidentally, this is the second time I have been denied access to Sudan - the first time occurred in 1963 when I tried to get in from Uganda).
Men allige vel glæder jeg mig over denne forhandling.
I have since been told by the ambassador that I could go if I wanted - but that was only last week.
I modsætning til hr. Spencer, den engelske enklave i PPE-Gruppen, tror jeg, at det er meget nyttigt at gøre det, men jeg føler mig heldigvis støttet af hr. Pronk fra samme gruppe.
Fourthly, following on from the previous reason, there is always a problem, even if one is able to visit a country, in knowing exactly what is going on unless you are able to live there for some considerable time.
Her drejer det sig kun om dette vigtige punkt.
I would wish that to be the case.
Vi skal tage sidstnævnte med i overvejelserne, og det eneste, som kommissæren skal gøre, er at opnå bedre kontakter med ILO, således at vi på dette punkt kan skabe en slags procedure.
I have to say that sometimes when people sometimes refer to these matters they forget that all the nine health and safety directives that were proposed under the last social action plan have been transposed into national legislation and the very first country to do it was the United Kingdom.
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Let us be fair about these matters.
Torres Couto (PSE). - (PT) Fru formand, hr. kommissær, med ikrafttrædelsen af Den Europæiske Union begynder borgerne at mærke forbedringer i deres levestandard -eller håber på det.
It is in promoting matters of health and safety that I think we may be able to continue with that to good effect, with all Twelve in agreement and with a level field over the whole Union.
Kommissionen og Rådet har udarbejdet et utal af initiativer og forslag i flere farver, hvidbøger og grønbøger inden for et regnbuestrategi, der ikke bliver omsat i en kohærent lovgivning, hverken på fællesskabs- eller med lemsstatsniveau.
Of course there are other issues where in due course we will have to consider whether we should adopt the provisions of the social protocol and use those provisions in another way. We are doing that in one particular proposal .at this very moment: the European Works Council proposal for consultation and information transfer.
I stedet for at være en satsning på fremtid og håb, ligner det snarere en reklamekampagne i bedste Benetton-stil.
We are in the initial procedures of that insofar as consultation with the social partners is concerned.
Mere interessant i øjeblikket end ILO synes jeg for øvrigt, at kommissær Flynns holdning er.
Sudan is the largest country in Africa and it is not overpopulated.
Jeg syntes, at han i dag var noget nuanceret, noget rolig, medens jeg for blot nogle dage siden i The Guardian havde læst, at han langede temmelig kraftigt ud efter forslaget.
It clearly has enormous economic potential: it has a lot of resources and riches which if developed could aid the population considerably.
Jeg støtter i og for sig hans heftighed.
Yet we find it in the deplorable condition that it is in today.
Men omhuen er efter min mening fuldstændig forsvundet, hvis der ligesom ved direktivet om gravide kvinder, igen sørges for, at der opstår en slags diskriminering i Europa, hvorved menne sker, som bor i England, ikke får denne sociale beskyttelse, som tilbydes i andre lande.
For most of its history as an independent state it has been riven by security problems, and that began with the legacy of colonialism, of course, which is not a happy legacy for many of the states of Africa.
Jeg vil gerne af hr. Flynn have at vide, om omhuen i dette direktiv efter hans mening er tilstrækkelig, og om denne beskyttelse tilbydes tilstrækkeligt.
The colonial powers must bear some responsibility, but the present state of affairs has come about over nearly 40 years of independence and so we have to criticize the Sudanese Government.
Når man nærmer sig de 20 mio arbejdsløse, og når 50 mio borgere lever i fattigdom og social udelukkelse, må Rådet og Kommissionen forstå, at europæerne begynder at blive pessimistiske i stedet for at tro på Den Europæiske Union.
But certainly the Commission is quite willing to say that all of the instruments available to it will be used to best effect to promote the best interests of workers and the social dimension in the Community.
Et Europa, der er sent om at handle i bekæmpelse af arbejdsløshed og social udelukkelse, er et Europa, der kompromitterer sine målsætninger.
Sudan is a union of many different tribal groups, different ethnic groups.
Et Europa, der ikke tager hånd om de unge, er et Europa, der sætter sin fremtid på spil.
That has. created difficulties in many African countries: some have solved them, some have not. That is past now.
Vi må værne om vore børn og vore unge ved at beskytte dem mod arbejdsbetingelser, der kan skade deres sundhed, sikkerhed og udvikling.
Sudan exists. It may have been better at some time to have had a federation but it is not a federation and our responsibility is not to seek to change that.
Og derfor må vi dele ILO's bekymring med hensyn til de tvetydigheder og selvmodsigelser, der stadig eksisterer på det felt.
Our responsibility lies in other fields.
Jeg vil af hr. Flynn også gerne have at vide: Hvad er nu egentlig fordelen ved dette direktiv, og har De· også i tilstrækkelig grad set på, hvilke ulemper der er ved dette direktiv?
As far as social fund funding is concerned, that is, as you know now, a matter for negotiation. As far as the Community support frameworks are concerned, I hope to have a mandate in that regard in the very near future and we will then be talking to all the Member States about promoting the Community support frameworks and the operational programmes that will underpin them.
Efter min mening er ulempen ved direktivet, således som det foreligger, i hvert fald, at Europas troværdighed igen får et slag i ansigtet hos borgerne.
I would certainly hope that all of the Member States will live up to their responsibilities in that regard.
Til alle mulige sider har jeg konstant lovet: dette marked er vigtigt, det haren række risici, men vi vil sørge for, at De får tilstrækkelig beskyttelse. Tilbydes denne beskyttelse i dette direktiv?
These are clearly important. But the simplistic version that is often given in the media of a Muslim north and a Christian south is not the whole truth at all.
Er troværdigheden hos borgerne i lyset af de kommende valg tilstrækkeligt tjent med, hvad der nu foreligger?
There are many Christians in the south, it is true, but there are also Muslims and many of those Muslims are fighting against the government of the north.
Til sidst, agter De at anvende den sociale protokol, og kan De fortælle mig, hvorfor medlemsstaterne i sin tid i Maastricht sørgede for, at protokollen blev presset igen nem, og hvorfor de nu tøver sådan med at anvende den?
I am sorry if it is not as clear-cut as you wish, but you are asking me to pre-empt certain negotiations and discussions that will be taking place both here and with the Member States in the immediate future.
Man må i fællesskabslovgivningen respektere de minimumsnormer, der er fastsat i ILO-konventioneme. I dette konkrete tilfælde respekterer man ikke konvention nr. 138, i henhold til hvilken minimumsalderen for at få et arbejde ikke må være lavere end den alder, hvor den obligatoriske skolegang afsluttes, og aldrig under 15 år.
President. - (IT) The next item is the report by Mr Crampton (Doc.
At gå med til - fordi der ingen lov findes eller af andre årsager - at de unge udfører arbejde, der overstiger deres fysiske eller psykologiske formåen, eller sætter dem i farlige situationer, er uacceptabelt.
Crampton (PSE), rapporteur. - Madam President, this report has been a rather difficult one for a number of reasons.
Man kan ikke tillade bestemmelser, der fritager en medlemsstat fra nøgleelementerne i dette direktiv.
Firstly, because the situation in Sudan is con stantly changing.
Flynn, medlem af Kommissionen. - (EN) Fru formand, blot et par korte kommentarer til, hvad der har været en meget interessant diskussion.
Now I was told last week that there are new laws forbidding arbitrary arrest and laying down time limits for holding prisoners.
Jeg har meget lidt at tilføje til den indledende udtalelse, hvis formål var at opklare spørgsmålet om den fælles holdning og ILO-konvention nr. 138. Jeg ønskede at få orden på tingene med hensyn til forvanskningen eller måske misforståelsen af ILO-noten, så at i det mindste ingen her ved plenarforsamlingen kunne være i tvivl.
It seems that there is a new committee of the Sudanese Parliament - if it deserves that name - which has been set up to deal with com plaints.
Hvis folk, der skriver den slags noter, gjorde sig den ulejlighed at søge opklaring af spørgsmålene fra mit kontor eller mine tjenester, så ville vi ikke have den vanskelighed i dag.
We know that one of the employees of the Commission in Juba, Mark Jenner, was executed - or murdered, if you like.
Et Europa, der går med til sociale attentater af denne art, er ikke et socialt Europa, og derfor er det ikke vort Europa.
Secondly, because the information available is often very sparse, unverifiable or contradictory and, indeed, this does pose problems which I shall bring to the attention of the House when we come to vote on this tomorrow
Flynn même har accepteret, at det, vi gør, er i overensstemmelse med de bedste normer og bestemt ikke i modstrid med ILO-konvention nr. 138.
Crampton ambassador assures me that it is not the harshest version, but it is still the sharia law which is discriminatory and harsh, as we know.
Jeg vil bare gerne berolige hr. Cox med, at hvad mig angår, så går Unionen fremad og ad to spor samtidig.
We know that Sudan has many transport difficulties and that there are some areas with food surpluses and others in shortage.
Det er det mandat, vi har fået i henhold til traktaten, og det må vi leve op til.
We realize that for years Sudan has been fed and kept in being by the United Nations, the European Union and many NGOs.
Jeg vil gerne se hele spørgsmålet om levestandard og fremskridt med hensyn til livskvalitet udvikle sig på et solidt grundlag i overensstemmelse med vore forpligtelser inden for den sociale dimension.
We accept that this happened, but it is not a final solution and so that is a great problem.
Det er en handlingsplan, det er en ramme, som kan føre til det ønskede resultat, vi talerom her, og som kan give unge og langtidsledige mulighed for at tage del i Unionens frem tid.
Both the Government, which tries to impose its version of islam on the entire population including the Christians and animists in the south, and the different factions of the SPLA, commit daily infringements of human rights.
Vi kunne kollektivt enes om at give den det nødvendige skub.
It is not for nothing that we have suspended our official development ties under Lomé IV.
Ellers bliver det bare til endnu et dokument på endnu en hylde, som studerende, der skriver afhandlinger om, hvad der kunne være sket, kan henvise til.
The Government's disastrous policy, the civil war, have driven millions of people to forsake their homes and flee to areas which are uninhabitable.
Det ønsker jeg ikke! Det bør være et aktivt program, baseret på den ramme, som med stor succes er fastlagt angående hele spørgsmålet om økonomi og om politiske initiativer inden for den sociale dimension.
Strictly interpreted Sharia laws which discriminate against women and non-muslims and deny fundamental human rights altogether, the deliberate per secution of the inhabitants of Juba, ethnic cleansing against the Nuba people, all this fills us with revulsion.
Jeg vil gerne sige til hr. van Velzen, at den rapport, De referer til i The Guardian, er baseret på den formelle meddelelse, der blev fremsat til Europa-Parlamentet om hele dette spørgsmål.
Overshadowing all, of course, is the war between south and north. It is good to report that the two major groups of the SPLA have reached some sort of union - we hope they have.
Vi får mulighed for at drøfte alle disse aspekter af den fælles holdning igen, men jeg sætter stor pris på de bidrag, der er fremkommet i dag om denne meget vigtige sag. Jeg håber, at spørgsmålet om ILO-konventionen nu er blevet tilfredsstillende opklaret.
Finally, as rapporteur, I wish to thank my assistant, the Committee on Development and Cooperation for its opinion and Mr Bertens for his amendments in the Committee on Foreign Affairs and Security, all of which we accepted.
Jeg vil også geme sige til hr. Spencer, at det aldrig har været Kommissionens hensigt, og bestemt heller ikke min, at berøve unge mennesker muligheden for den erfaring at gå med aviser.
Andrews (RDE), draftsman of the opinion of the Commit tee on Development and Cooperation. - Madam President, I wish to congratulate Mr Crampton on his excellent and comprehensive report.
Van Velzen (PSE). - (NL) Fru formand, jeg har hørt kommissæren sige: Min holdning er allerede kendt, for jeg har engang afgivet en redegørelse om dette spørgsmål, beskyttelse af de unge.
Obviously whilst this horrendous situation continues the European Union cannot sustain any development ties in terms of giving emergency and humanitarian aid.
Det kan godt være rigtigt, men jeg kan ikke huske, at jeg har hørt, at han officielt her i Parlamentet eller i Socialudvalget har afgivet denne redegørelse.
Given that our stand in the past has not only not led to an improvement of the situation but that the situation has actually got worse, we have to ask ourselves today whether we can go on as before.
Derfor vil jeg alligevel bede ham om nu at bekendtgøre denne holdning noget mere præcist.
Should we stop at suspending aid, or should we go further?
Indebærer denne redegørelse i sin tid, hr. Flynn, at direktivet, således som det nu foreligger, den fælles holdning, efter Deres mening er uacceptabelt og således bør afvises i denne form af Parlamentet?
But just as we are on the point of deciding to expel Sudan from the Lomé IV Convention, the debate is being concluded.
Måske burde vi have en bedre forbindelse, så vi ikke udsættes for den slags misforståelser, vi har måttet opklare her i dag, og bruger tid på plenarmødet på den måde, som det er sket.
If we are to maintain the already suspended development link we must in my view threat en Sudan, if the position does not improve, with sanctions in the form of expulsion from the Lomé Convention.
Jeg ville være glad for at have bedre forbindelser.
This is the thrust of my Amendment to paragraph 1.
Forklaringen i dag peger på, at hvis institutioner skal fremsætte kommentarer, bør de i det mindste få sagen oplyst i forvejen fra et professionelt organ, der kan håndtere disse spørgsmål.
So firstly we call on the Commission to urge the Sudanese Govern ment to cease its systematic violations immediately, secondly we call on the Commission to inform us of the situation and the reaction of the Sudanese Government and, if necessary, in a third phase to initiate the process for enforcement of Article 367 of the Lomé Convention, namely expulsion of Sudan from the Lomé Convention if the Sudanese Government persists in its systematic violations of human rights.
Fuchs (PSE). - (FR) Fru formand, jeg synes ikke, kommissæren har svaret på det væsentlige spørgsmål, som forskellige talere stillede ham for lidt siden.
The strengthening of the human rights provisions of the Fourth Lomé Convention and the evolution of a more coherent Community policy on human rights has coincided with a worsening of the situation in Sudan.
Det drejede sig faktisk om at finde ud af, hvorfor Kommissionen, når den bliver klar over, at en medlemsstat - for at sige det rent ud Det forenede Kongerige i det foreliggende tilfælde - agter at blokere et forslag vedrørende det socialpolitiske område, som retsgrundlag ikke tager Maastricht-protokollen, som gør det muligt for de elleve, altså et flertal, at fastsætte bestemmelser, som det famøse UK ikke vil være med til?
These factors have combined to justify an embargo on the Lomé IV programming dialogue between the Commission and the Sudanese authorities. In addition, in order to exert further pressure on the regime, agreement for the transfer of funds to Sudan under the STABEX scheme has been frozen. £30 million awaits the Sudanese Government if the human rights situation improves in that country.