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Nu vil jeg lige give Dem et par tal: 95% af skindene i Canada stammer ikke fra dyr, der er fanget af indfødte fangere, det gør kun 5%, ca. 44.000 skind; resten af dyrene bliver fanget af smarte forret ningsfolk.
I must say to you, in all honesty, that I have always been on your side up to now, but the fact that you can tell me such a barefaced story, although you should have known better, is quite unbelievable!
Hvis vi virkelig interesserer os så meget for de oprindelige folk, så skulle vi f.eks. ikke købe mere uran fra Canada.
And I have to tell that story to other people, and I have to deal with people who no longer
Det bliver nemlig udvundet på hellige steder, der udvindes malm, ryddes skove, og dermed bliver alt ødelagt: det bliver det ikke med de 44.000 skind, der giver indianerne biindtægter på 480 dollar om året!
Belleré (NI). — (IT) Madam President, my group agrees with delaying for at least one year from I January 1996 the ban on imports of furs from countries which use leghold traps: similarly, it agrees with the prohibition of their use within the European Community. Some problems of substance still
Vi har beskæftiget os med dette emne i mange år. Vi har allerede udskudt lovens ikrafttræden et år, hvilket efter min opfattelse var en yderst liberal handling, hvormed vi har bevist vores forståelse.
Bellere been established that the Regulation would enter into force on I January 1996 — a period of time which surely ought to have been long enough to enable the objective of the Regulation to be attained.
Derfor stiller jeg spørgsmålet: Kan Kommissionen sige, hvad der får den til at tro, at situationen er en anden om et år?
Although I was not yet a Member of this Parliament in 1991,1 should nonetheless like to remind you of that objective.
For det andet ligger løsningen i at finde frem til nogle standarder for mindre brutale fangstmetoder, men det kneveren vis tid. ikke blot til at udarbejde dem. men navnlig til at få udbredt den nye praksis hos en fattig og dårligt uddannet befolkning, der er spredt over enorme områder.
remain, however: ecological and environmental problems, for example, as highlighted by the Canadian Government, which maintains that a ban on trapping beavers would result in a rise in the number of dams constructed by these animals, diverting the natural course of livers and streams and altering the geo-orological balance; another problem — still on beaver furs — is that where these are exported to be dressed in Italy, for example, work is provided for over three thousand people, who could lose their jobs as a result.
Vi må derfor være så kloge, at vi ikke fastsætteren for kort frist, for så erstatter vi blot en urealistisk plan med en anden.
The same applies to other furs exported from North America, from the Scandinavian countries, Russia and other countries of Eastern Europe.
Schnellhardt (PPE). — (DE) Fru formand, mine damer og herrer, hvordan ser situationen ud? Siden 1991 har det ligget fast, at forordningen træder i kraft den 1.1.1996 — en frist, der burde have været tilstrækkelig til at nå målet med forordningen.
Since a group of experts has for some time now been investigating new and less cruel methods of trapping, it could reasonably be proposed that the regulation should enter into force once the experts have concluded their deliberations and established trapping methods which are more humane, less dangerous and less distasteful.
I 1991 var jeg ganske vist ikke medlem af Parlamentet, men jeg vil gerne alligevel minde om målet.
Moreover, such an approach would avoid any intolerant reactions which might create fresh problems, such as the impact on employment which 1 have just tried to highlight.
Det er sikkert godt og rigtigt.
There is no doubt that this is the right thing.
Men set ud fra dette synspunkt har forordningen forfejlet sin målsætning.
From this point of view, however, the Regulation has not achieved its objective.
Det er der sikkert forskellige grunde til. og disse grunde bør hurtigst muligt analyseres.
Of course, there are various reasons for this, and these reasons need to be analysed as soon as possible.
For at forordningen kan gennemføres, skal der formuleres nogle bestemmelser; kun på den måde kan der arbejdes tilfredsstillende.
In order to implement the Regulation, provisions are necessary; only in this way can it operate successfully.
Der foreligger imidlertid ikke nogen gennemførelsesbestemmelser, og der kommer heller ikke til at foreligge nogen inden 31.12.1995.
However, there are no implementing provisions; nor will there be any on 31 December 1995.
Det synes jeg, Kommissionen burde have erkendt, senest da Den Internationale Standardiseringsorganisation i sommer i år indstillede arbejdet med nye fangstmetoder.
That, I believe, ought to have been recognized by the Commission, at the latest when, in the summer of this year, the International Organization for Standardization stopped work on the development of new methods of capture.
For mig rejser der sig det spørgsmål, hvorfor Kommissionen endnu dengang talte om overholdelse af fristen 1.1.1996.
Roth-Behrendt (PSE). - (DE) Madam President, I only wish that indigenous peoples had as many supporters in other debates as they do here today.
Siden september 1995 har der imidlertid siddet en ny arbejdsgruppe og arbejdet med sagen, og ifølge udtalelser fra Kommissionen over for Miljøudvalget, er der allerede opnået de første resultater.
Does this perhaps have something to do with the intensive lobbying that has been going on recently, and the men and women who are so assiduously taking notes in the public gallery?
Belleré (NI). — (IT) Fru formand, vor gruppe er enig i fra I. januar 1996 og i mindst el år at udsætte importen af pelsværk fra lande, som bruger rævesakse, ligesom den er enig i al forbyde anvendelsen af disse i Del Europæiske Fællesskab.
The question that strikes me is why, at that time, the Commission was still talking about meeting the deadline of 1 January 1996.
Der foreligger alligevel problemer, som ikke skal undervurderes: problemer af økologisk ari. som for eksempel er understreget af den canadiske regering, ifølge hvilken et forbud mod fangst af bævere ville føre til en forøgelse af de diger, de bygger, en ændring af det naturlige lob af nogle floder og åer med deraf følgende ændringer i jordhøjdebalancen: et andet problem — hvis vi bliver ved bæverpelsene — er. at de. når de eksporteres for eksempel til Italien og garves, giver arbejde til mere end tre tusinde i sektoren, som således ville risikere at slå uden arbejde.
However, since September 1995 a new working party has been dealing with the matter, and, according to what the Commission has told the Committee on the Environment, the first successful results have been achieved.
Roth-Behrendt (PSF2). — (DE) Fru formand, jeg kunne godi ønske mig. at de oprindelige folk havde så mange fortalere i andre diskussioner, som de har her i dag.
Madam President, I have an unshakeable faith in the wisdom of the Commission, and I very much hope that Sir Leon Brittan will get to hear about at least some of this debate.
Har det måske noget at gøre med den intensive lobbyisme i den sidste tid og de ivrigt skrivende damer og herrer i tilhørerlogen?
I should like to make a distinction between the question of extending the ban on imports, and the question of how we should deal with legislation.
Jeg opfordrer derfor alle implicerede parter til at gøre sig forøgede anstrengelser for at nå frem til enighed om nye fangstmetoder, der naturligt udelukker anvendelse af rævesakse.
I should therefore like to invite all the parties involved to intensify their efforts to achieve agreement on new methods of capture which will do away with leghold traps naturally.
Målet må efter min opfattelse være, at de nye metoder kan anvendes fra begyndelsen af jagtsæsonen i efteråret 1996.
In my view, the objective must be that it should be possible to introduce the new procedures by the beginning of the hunting season in the autumn of 1996.
Selvom vi i dag kræver forordningen gennemført, får vi alligevel ikke indført nye fangstmetoder i Canada, USA og Rusland på el tidligere tidspunkt.
Even if we demand that the Regulation is put into practice today, we still cannot ensure that new methods of capture not involving leghold traps will be introduced any earlier in Canada, the USA and Russia.
En gennemførelse nu rammer kun de oprindelige folk, bestemte stammer, der hidtil ikke har haft mange muligheder for at udtale sig — også selvom det, som nævnt flere gange, kun er en lille del af befolkningen, der berøres heraf.
Immediate implementation affects only the aboriginal inhabitants, certain tribes who have so far had little opportunity to express their opinion — even if, as has often been said already, it is only a small percentage of the population that is affected.
Fru formand, jeg har jo en urokkelig tillid til Kommissionens visdom, og jeg håber meget, at hr. Brittan i det mindste får refereret noget af diskussionen.
There is another thing I should like to know, and that is, is a precedent being created here? Will we, in future, have to determine our legislation on the basis of WTO guidelines?
Jeg vil gerne skelne mellem spørgsmålet om forlængelse af importforbuddet og spørgsmålet om. hvordan vi lovgiver.
Will we let the WTO act as the judge in deciding whether we should lay down strict nitrate levels in drinking water, in other words whether we should restrict levels of chemicals, and many other things?
Jeg blev meget overrasket over de taler, som nogle kolleger har holdt, og spørger mig selv. hvad de egentlig gør her.
Will the WTO, before long, be sitting round the table in the Council of Ministers, or is that just a front that is being used at the moment?
Jeg slutter stadig op bag Parlamentets beslutninger af januar 1995 og november 1995. hvor Kommissionen blev opfordret til ved indgåelsen af fremtidige handels- og samarbejdsaftaler mellem EU og tredjelande at tage hensyn til de oprindelige folks rettigheder. Dette krav må nu opfyldes.
I continue to stand by the decisions that Parliament took in January 1995 and November 1995, in which the Commission was invited, when deciding on future trade and cooperation agreements between the EU and non-member countries, to take into account the rights of indigenous peoples.
Jeg går imidlertid også fuldt og helt ind for en forening af disse to aspekter.
However, I am absolutely in favour of uniting these two aspects.
Ud fra dette synspunkt og på baggrund af uklare forhold omkring handlen tager jeg. omend med beklagelse. Parlamentets beslutning til efterretning og kan oplyse, at jeg vil undersøge denne beslutning nærmere.
From the point of view of these criteria, and on the basis of the unclear situation as far as trade is concerned, I take note of the decision of the House, though with regret, and I hereby give notice that I shall be putting that decision to the test.
Hvis vi tager vores arbejde alvorligt — og det består i at lovgive — så giver vores arbejde kun mening, hvis vi sammen med Ministerrådet også vedtager love. Hvis Kommissionen bagefter kan træffe afgørelse om. hvorvidt disse love reelt også har gyldighed, idet de nemlig beslutter en gennemførelsesforordning eller undlader dette, så kan vi lige så godt indstille vores arbejde.
Chesa (UPE). — (FR) Madam President, ladies and gentlemen, the Council Regulation provided for a ban, to enter into force on I January 1995, on the import of furs of wild species captured in countries which have not adopted legislation forbidding the use of leghold traps and have not replaced such traps by less cruel trapping methods.
Der er også en anden ting. jeg gerne vil vide. og del er. om denne sag v il danne præcedens?
We have been dealing with this subject for many years.
Skal vi i fremtiden indrette vores lovgivning eller verdenshandelsorganisationens retningslinjer?
We have already delayed the entry into force of this law by one year, which in my opinion was a decidedly liberal gesture, by means of which we demonstrated our understanding.
Vil vi lade WTO optræde som dommer og afgøre, om vi f.eks. skal fastsætte strenge nitratværdier for drikkevand, altså begrænse kemikaliemængden, og meget andet?
Hence my question: can the Commission say, as it is trying to make us believe, that in one year's time the situation will be any different?
Er det noget, verdenshandelsorganisationen skal bestemme?
What reason does the Commission have for hoping that, a year from now, anything will be any different from the way it is today?
Skal den sidde med ved Ministerrådels bord. eller er det et figenblad, der bliver benyttet i øjeblikket?
Schnellhardt (PE). - (DE) Madam President, ladies and gentlemen, what does the situation look like? Since 1991 it has
Men Kommissionen foreslår, at gennemførelsen af denne forordning udsættes med endnu et år.
Chesa the implications of the free-trade philosophy prevalent throughout the world.
Den eneste modstand mod anvendelsen af denne lovtekst findes netop i frihandelsbestemmelserne. som er vedtaget inden for WTO, hvor man ikke tillader handelshindringer over for varer eller produkter udelukkende af hensyn til dyrenes rettigheder.
The sole opposition to the implementation of the legislative circular comes in fact from the WTO whose rules on free trade forbid barriers to the importation of goods and products simply on the basis of animal rights.
grunde, nemlig mennesket, under alle omstændigheder vil være upædagogisk og grusom.
indigenous peoples must be respected, but no one is preventing them from continuing to hunt: all we are proposing is that those furs should not be imported.
Og den manglende import vil også fremme andre, alternative metoder, der kan sikre, at disse indfødte folk ikke bliver afhængige af' de betingelser, der fastsættes af de store pelshandlere.
And a ban on imports will also serve to promote alternative methods, in order to ensure that those indigenous communities are not forced to abide by the conditions laid down by large-scale fur traders.
Bedre eksempel på den vilde liberalisme kan man ikke tænke sig, på tværs af alle regler og direktiver gennemtvinger liberalismen sin lov.
Leperre-Verrier(ARE). — (FR) Madam President, however commendable, patience does not always sit well with decision making even when the subject is environmental protection and even when the cause is a good one.
Leperre-Verrier (ARE). — (FR) Fru formand, det er måske forståeligt med tålmodighed, men den går ikke altid hånd i hånd med beslutningstagningen, selv når der er tale om miljøbeskyttelse, selv når der er tale om en god sag. for det er undertiden svært at forsvare dem på en for enkel måde.
A fine example, if ever there was one, of the free-for-all liberalism that holds sway in the face of all rules and all directives. It is perhaps time to question the out-and-out liberalism which Europe seems bent on espousing and do everything in our power to ensure that Community preference wins the day.
I første omgang må man konstatere, at denne fangstmetode kun vedrører 10% af de dyr. hvis pels bruges til konfektion og dennes følgeindustrier.
In the first place we need to remember that this trapping method concerns only 10% of the animals whose fur is destined for the clothing and related industries.
Vi må heller ikke glem me, at de dyr. der fanges på denne måde. selv på Unionens område, ofte bliver del på grand af de skader, de forvolder.
Moreover, let us not forget that animals trapped in this way, even on the territory of the European Union, are sometimes caught because of the damage they cause.
Man kunne for eksempel nævne moskusrollerne, som angriber digerne i Nederlandene, og bæverne, som kan være skyld i oversvømmelser.
Let me mention by way of example the problem of musk-rats which attack dikes in the Netherlands, or beavers which contribute to flooding.
En del af vildtforvaltningens rolle er også at beskytte afgrøder og kvæg.
Thus fauna management also includes the task of protecting crops and livestock.
Ephremidis (GUE/NGL). — (EL) Fru formand, min gruppe deler helt og holdent interessen for den økologiske balance af hensyn til dyrenes velfærd.
Ephremidis (GUE/NGL). - (EL) Madam President, my group certainly appreciates how sensitive the balance of the ecosystem is for healthy animal life.
Men jeg vil samtidig bede de medlemmer, der nu har talt så meget om denne side af sagen. om også at vise lidt interesse for de mennesker, der arbejder med og lever af at forarbejde og sælge pelse.
However, I would invite those colleagues who have said so much about that aspect of the subject, to show some sensitivity as well towards those whose livelihood depends on furs, those who work, process and trade in them.
Og det er ikke kun nogle få oprindelige folk i Canada eller nogle indbyggere i Rusland; der er tale om hundredetusinder mennesker, der bl.a. bor i Fællesskabet.
Such people are not just a few natives of Canada or inhabitants of Russia, they include hundreds of thousands of people living in the Community.
Jeg vil gerne komme med et eksempel fra mit eget land: det nordvestlige Grækenland, med Kastoria som centrum, lever bogstaveligt talt — og skaber måske også en vis indtægt og beskæftigelse — af forarbejdning, distribution og handel med pelse.
Here, I would like to give an example from my own country: the northwest of Greece, centred in and around Kastoria, literally lives by processing, moving and trading in fur, which is what enables its people to secure some kind of income, some work.
Hvis dette direktiv træder i kraft pr. 1. januar 1996, vil det bringe området i en desperat situation med arbejdsløshed og affolkning af landdistrikterne.
Immediate implementation of this directive from 1 January 1996 would lead those people into despair, unemployment and the desertion of the countryside.
Det er. hvad der også kan komme ud af »respekt for økosystemet«.
This too is a matter of 'respect for the ecosystem'.
Problemet er således mangesidet, men man må konstatere, at i dag findes der ingen standarder, selv om man naturligvis kan spørge sig selv hvorfor.
The problem therefore has many facets but it is necessary to bear in mind that at present there are no standards in existence even if there are clear grounds for asking why this is the case.
Man må derfor gøre alt for at finde frem til en acceptabel løsning.
We should therefore do our utmost to find an acceptable solution.
Derfor kan skæringsdatoen for forbuddet mod pelsimport ikke fastholdes til den I. januar 1996. men må nødvendigvis udsættes.
For this reason the 1 January 1996 date for the introduction of the ban on fur imports cannot be complied with and needs to be postponed.
Vi må imidlertid sorge for. al denne udsættelse giver anledning til principielle overvejelser om inuitternes livsbetingelser, deres afhængighed al' pelshandelen, hvilket ikke altid er sikkert, og naturligvis alternative fangstmetoder for pelsdyr.
We ought to make sure however that this extension is used to carry out a genuine and thorough examination of fur animal trapping methods as well as a proper study of the living conditions of the Inuit people and their dependence on the fur trade — with all the uncertainties that this livelihood entails.
Ud fra disse betragtninger vil jeg tilslutte mig kommissærens forslag om et års udsættelse, da en øjeblikkelig iværksættelse vil få ovennævnte frygtelige konsekvenser.
In that sense, Madam President, I agree with the Commission's proposal for a one-year postponement, because immediate implementation would have horrific consequences.
Sandbæk (EDN). — Fru formand, det er klart, at Kommissionen allerede for et halvt år siden skulle have taget højde for denne situation. Så ville vi ikke være der. hvor vi er i dag.
Sandbæk (EDN). — (DA) Madam President, the Commission should clearly have taken stock of this situation six months ago.
Men når det er sagt. så synes jeg. at det vigtigste må være. al forordningens formål, nemlig at der indfores mere humane fældestandarder, bliver opfyldt, at det er del. vi skal opnå.
But having said that, I believe that the most important thing is for the aim of the regulation to be fulfilled, in other words that more humane trapping standards should be introduced, and this is what we have to achieve.
I den forbindelse vil jeg sige. at de fleste af de dyr. der i dag fanges i rævesakse, er. som nævnt for et øjeblik siden, skadedyr, hvis skind overhovedel ikke sælges.
In this context, I would point out that most of the animals which are now caught in leghold traps, as was said a moment ago, are vermin whose pelts are not sold at all.
Det vil altså sige. at hvis det virkelig er dyrebeskyttelse, man her tilstræber, så skal man ikke udstede pelsforbud men sørge for. at der ikke længere opsættes rævesakse.
So this means that if we are really talking about animal welfare, we should not impose a ban on pelts, but ensure that leghold traps are no longer used.
Det gør vi jo netop ved al forlænge denne forordning i et år. sådan al man kan få en god debat om spørgsmålet.
That is just what we would be doing by extending the date of the regulation by a year, so there can be a proper debate on the issue.
Tamino (V). — (IT) Fru formand, jeg vil gerne først og fremmest udtrykke min skuffelse over dette forslag om forlængelse fra Kommissionen, ikke kun fordi samme kommission for nogle måneder siden slet ikke talte om dette, men fordi det er tydeligt, at ved i dag at foreslå en forlængelse ser man også bort fra artikel 130 S i Traktaten, og man tager ikke i betragtning, at efter seks års diskussion tjener et hvilket som helst forsøg på forlængelse kun til uændret at opretholde interesserne hos de stater, som absolut ikke ønsker at finde en løsning på problemet, hvilket de gennem disse år til fulde har demonstreret.
Tamino (V). — (IT) Madam President, I wish to begin by saying how disappointed I am that the Commission has proposed this deferral, not only because just a few months ago the Commission itself made no mention of it, but also because to propose a deferral today shows a clear disregard for Article 130s in the regulation and a failure to realize, after more than six years of discussion, that any move to defer implementation serves only to bolster the interests of the countries which are refusing to find a solution, as indeed they have amply demonstrated in recent years.
Det er derfor ikke gennem en udsættelse, men gennem en umiddelbar gennemførelse fra 1. januar af forordningen, at de enkelte stater vil træffe et ansvarligt valg af at gå ind i spørgsmålets substans og finde metoder, som er acceptable.
Consequently, it is not deferral of the regulation, but its immediate implementation, as from 1 January, that will lead the countries concerned to take the responsible decision to investigate the matter and come up with acceptable methods.
Jeg erindrer endvidere Parlamentet om, at allerede foren måned siden udtrykte man sig i den retning ved at afvise et ændringsforslag, som foreslog en udsættelse.
One minute is very little time. I can therefore only endorse what Mr Hyland and Mr Schnellhardt have said, and deplore the fact that there are some quite unrealistic things in several of these motions for resolutions, and things which are completely wrong.
Der er således også tale om en fuldstændig mangel på respekt for det ønske, som allerede er udtrykt af Parlamentet.
There are many errors in the Greens' motion in particular. I deplore the fact that the Cree Indians have been made use of, for example.
Jeg tror imidlertid, at selve den tanke at give mulighed for at dræbe dyr alene for at tilfredsstille forfængeligheden hos det eneste dyr. som ikke dræber af nødvendighed, men for sin fornøjelses skyld eller af andre
They have been exploited for things which they have not said at all. I hope that we shall be able to use the next year to really ensure that we improve animal welfare, and that we also raise such issues as the transport of animals, force-feeding of geese, battery calves, and matters which concern our own citizens, not just things which will damage the living conditions of the Inuits in northern Canada.