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Vertemati (PSE), ordfører. - (IT) Hr. formand, på dette Europa-Parlamentets sidste møde i denne valgperiode diskuterer vi igen i plenarforsamlingen emballage og emballageaffald.
Muntingh (PSE). - (NL) Mr President, the Socialist Group takes very seriously the question of legislation to reduce the amount of packaging and packaging waste and congratulates the rapporteur on the work he has done.
Dette bekræfter, hvad vi havde understreget ved tidligere lejligheder, nemlig den bydende nødvendighed af en europæisk norm på dette område.
As a Group we are agreed that there has to be an order in which things are done: first prevention, then reuse and recycling, then incineration with recovery of energy and then the residue.
Der er så mange, der har diskuteret det i det sidste halvandet år.
Here in Parliament we have become acquainted with various interesting groups.
Desuden har Miljøudvalget - takket være bidrag fra alle
For us in Parliament this is no victory wreath, but the ratios
Vertemati motiverende elementer i den fremtidige miljøpolitik, da man efter min mening altid blot løber bagefter sammen med miljøpolitikkens statsadvokat. I enhver situation ville jeg foretrække motivation.
Florenz correspond with the ones here in this chamber: 10 politicians as against some 130 lobbyists.
rende rolle, også for så vidt angår lovgivningsprocessen.
The priorities addressed here are I think on target.
Det er, hvad jeg håber, hr. formand.
We have to motivate people to consume less.
Jeg forbeholder mig at give udtryk for min vurdering ved afstemningens slutning.
We need common ground rules in this House and on this continent, and where would be a better place to develop these rules than here?
I Europa-Parlamentet har vi lært forskellige interessante grupper at kende.
quences of bureaucratic instruments like quotas for recycling, the possible inspection of capacities, or national recycling practices in Member States.
Her findes der folk, der er imod alt. De Grønne vil med et direktiv helt afskaffe affaldet.
All these elements bring with them the inherent danger that the internal market for secondary raw materials will not come about.
Endvidere findes der folk, som tror, at affaldspolitik kun koster penge, og at man slet intet bør gøre.
That the present proposals will not guarantee application of the principle of causation is shown by the proposal tabled; subsequent investment in connection with this regulation will actually need to be financed from the European coffers once more.
Det er det allerfarligste.
In so doing we refute the principle of causation.
Så findes der en gruppe, der virkelig er rede til -med motiverende elementer i et nyt århundrede, i et forvandlet industrisamfund - at gå en ny vej.
Either we want the packaging material sector to bear the ensuing costs with all the consequences, or we believe that this sector too must be susceptible to State intervention.
Denne chance har vi, og den bør vi udnytte.
Here the Liberals are in favour of the route of the market economy and ecology in the market economy.
Det foreliggende direktiv peger i den nødvendige retning. Målsætningen er beskeden, men rigtig.
In the couple of seconds which are all that are available here after two years of discussion, I would like to raise a single point, that of product responsibility.
Vi er fra en genvinding af alle materialer på 40% kommet ned på 25%.
I would like all interested parties, both customers and producers, to participate in this process.
For os i Europa-Parlamentet er dette ikke et sejrsbudskab, men proportionerne svarer til dem her i denne mødesal: 10 politikere over for ca. 130 lobbyister.
I therefore urge the inclusion in this directive of responsibility for all interested parties and that Parliament becomes aware of its new role, remaining firm and steadfast in the face of all internal and external attacks.
De prioriteter, der tages op her, peger efter min opfattelse i den rigtige retning. Vi skal motivere menneskene for at forbruge mindre.
Lannoye (V). - (FR) Our colleague Mr Muntingh said a moment ago that this proposal for a directive was one produced by the packaging sector.
Muntingh (PSE). - (NL) Hr. formand, Den Socialistiske Gruppe betragter bestemmelserne om reduktion af emballage og emballageaffald som en yderst vigtig sag og vil gerne gratulere ordføreren med hans arbejde.
Vohrer (LDR). - (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentle men; when we look at the history of this directive on packaging we can see that the Commission has presented a very thoroughly considered proposal to do better by environmental targets, that this proposal has been improved in the deliberations of the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection, but subsequently also at the first reading in plenary, and then as a result the actual breakthrough followed the first reading in mid-December.
Som gruppe er vi enig i, at der må være en rangorden: først forebyggelse, så genbrug og genvinding, så forbrænding med energigenvinding og til slut resten.
There was in fact an attempt at that point, certainly resulting from the pressure of over capacity in secondary raw materials transported from the Federal Republic to other European markets, to set upper limits for this reuse.
Desværre er vor gruppe splittet for så vidt angår anvendelse af maksima.
Hence these disparities enter into the whole discussion.
Generelt er repræsentanterne for de nordlige lande imod maksima, medens de sydlige lande er for.
The original draft as adopted at the first reading contains clear targets, namely avoidance of packaging and 60% reuse.
Min gruppe er således splittet, præcis ligesom Rådet og efter al sandsynlighed også Kommissionen.
Setting such clear targets is in my opinion still the best way.
I det par sekunder, man har til rådighed her efter to års diskussion, vil jeg gerne fremhæve et enkelt punkt, nemlig produktansvaret.
Everything else which followed, with a differ ential of 40%-45% or now the new figures as presented in Amendment Nos 21 and 22, brings a new interventionist element into play.
Jeg ville gerne lade alle involverede, såvel kunderne som producenterne, deltage i denne proces.
All this endangers the internal market for secondary raw materials.
Derfor slår jeg til lyd for, at alle implicerede parters ansvar optages i dette direktiv, og at Europa-Parlamentet bliver sig sin nye rolle bevidst og standhaftigt modstår alle angreb såvel indefra som udefra.
That is why the Liberal, Democratic and Reformist Group again favoured the old proposal with the clear targets it set for 60% recycling.
Resultatet er, at man vil uddrive Djævlen med Belzebub, og at der kommer et system med minima og maksima suppleret med alskens undtagelser, Djævlens prærogativer.
Why? Careful study of the common position shows that virtually none of the amendments of substance tabled by Parliament, which were consistent, even if, broadly speaking, we considered them to be inadequate, have been adopted by Council.
En ueuropæisk, kunstlet løsning, som alene emballageindustrien kan glæde sig over, og det må forresten siges: dette direktiv er emballageindustriens direktiv.
On the other hand, a number of wholly negative priorities appear clearly in the texts.
De har åbnet alle lobby-registre.
Firstly, the lack of a real hierarchy in waste management techniques; you cannot possibly put incineration, recycling and reuse all on the same footing.
Der er ofret enorme summer på det her - penge, der havde fundet en bedre anvendelse, havde industrien brugt dem på genvinding og andre nyttige ting - for så vidt muligt fortsat at have frit spil ved den videre forpestning af miljøet.
Then, the setting of maximum values for the percentage by weight of packaging actually recycled or reused. Lastly, the fact of globalizing the maximum concentrations of heavy metals in packaging and packaging waste.
Den stakkels miljøbe vægelse, der ikke rådede over disse enorme budgetter, fik ikke noget ud af det.
All of this shows clearly that nothing has in fact been envisaged in order to limit the glut of packaging waste, nor to hinder the general pollution caused by this waste.
Hvis vi om lidt her i Parlamentet ikke opnår det påkrævede flertal ved de afgørende kom promisændringsforslag - og jeg opfordrer alle grupper til at gøre dette til et kardinalpunkt - må også Europa-Parlamentet opgive at få noget ud af det, og det samme gælder derfor ligeledes borgeren og miljøet.
We believe that a text such as this offers no serious prospects, and think that the Netherlands, Denmark and Germany, which have made known their intention to reject it, are right.
Dér forsøgte man nemlig - sikkert under indtryk af overkapaciteten med hensyn til sekundære råstoffer, der fra Forbundsrepublikken blev eksporteret til andre europæiske markeder - at begrænse denne genvinding af materialer opad.
We also think it right that the order of priorities be addressed, that is, the avoidance of refuse as a primary target immediately followed by recycling or reuse or thermal recycling.
Således er disse absurditeter kommet ind i hele diskussionen.
Worst of all in our opinion are the dumps and we must also consider the possibility of economic incentives so that dumps are not only the worst of all alternatives from an ecological standpoint but in addition do not pay economically.
Florenz (PPE). - (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, jeg vil først og fremmest benytte lejligheden til at takke Dem, hr. Vertemati, for Deres udmærkede arbejde.
This brings us to the third point, that of economic instruments.
Det var et yderst vanskeligt forehavende, og det har De i det sidste halvandet år klaret på imponerende vis.
Here too the Liberal, Democratic and Reformist Group presented a clear proposal in Amendment No 46 to Article 15 at the first reading.
Hvor for behøver vi egentlig en emballageforordning?
This proposal was adopted by Parliament.
Målet for denne emballageforordning kan dog kun være at skåne ressourcerne i Europa. I Europa har vi kun få råstoffer og stadig flere affaldsbjerge og stadig flere problemer med at få disse affaldsbjerge anbragt.
I would not like us to allow ourselves to be unduly impressed by the vote of the Council of Ministers.
Det oprindelige udkast indeholdt, sådan som det blev vedtaget her ved førstebehandlingen, klare mål, nemlig forebyggelse af emballageaffald og krav om, at 60 vægtprocent af emballageaffaldet genanvendes.
Bjørnvig (ARC). - (DA) Mr President, I agree with my colleague, the common position ought to be rejected for the following reasons: The limits in paragraph 1 for heavy metals are too imprecise, in particular, a specific limit for cadmium is lacking, so that the directive as it stands now in the common position will bring about a deterioration in Danish legislation and, to the best of my knowledge, in the Netherlands too.
Denne klare målsætning er efter min opfattelse stadigvæk det bedste.
Secondly, there is no ban on PVC, which is the most important source of chlorine in waste.
Alt andet, hvad der fulgte efter, med denne »vifte« på 40-45% eller nu de nye tal, der er forelagt i ændringsforslag 21 og 22, indfører nye interventionistiske elementer.
In fact, packaging is the area in which it is easiest to replace PVC with less harmful materials, and in Denmark, phasing out the use of PVC in packaging has been agreed with industry.
Alt dette bringer det indre marked for sekundære råstoffer i fare.
This agreement will be sabotaged however, if the common position is adopted.
Jeg personlig hører til dem, der kun vil have et beskedent mål af tvang, men et langt mere overbevisende mål af
Even if is it is a voluntary agreement, it will be seen as a trade barrier under Article 18.
Slettest er efter vort synspunkt deponierne, og vi skal også gøre os tanker om, hvordan de økonomiske incitamenter kunne se ud, for at deponier ikke blot ud fra et økologisk synspunkt bliver den dårligste af alle muligheder, men heller ikke kan lønne sig økonomisk.
In addition, it is grotesque to lay down limits for maximum recycling, as in Article 6 of the common position, even though elsewhere the way is opened for the Member States to exceed the targets if they acquire sufficient capacity for recycling and reuse.
tungmetaller i emballage og emballageaffald lægges sammen.
Bowe (PSE). - Mr President, I would like to welcome the report of the rapporteur and his amendments to the common position.
Alt dette viser klart, at der virkelig intet er planlagt med henblik på at begrænse overfyldningen med hensyn til emballageaffaldets omfang eller sætte en stopper for den almindelige gene, som det pågældende affald repræsenterer.
This is a very important, controversial issue with many differing views across the Community. We need a proposal that is equitable and just to all involved in the problem within the Union.
Vi tror ikke, at en sådan tekst frembyder et seriøst perspektiv, og mener, at Nederlandene, Danmark og Tyskland, der har meddelt, at de agter at forkaste den, har ret i denne sag.
I would urge the Council and the Commission to consider seriously Parliament's amendments.
Dermed er vi ved det tredje punkt, nemlig ved de økonomiske instrumenter.
A number of these problems are sorted out by the committee amendments, particularly Nos 21, 22 and 28, which have my enthusiastic support, but unfortunately these proposals are weak in relation to those which were originally put forward in committee.
Også her har Den Liberale og Demokratiske Gruppe i ændringsforslag nr. 46 til artikel 15 ved førstebehandlingen fremlagt et klart koncept.
On heavy metals, we could live with the limit value in Article 11 of I OOppm by weight, if it came into effect immediately, and not five years after the entry of the directive into force.
Jeg ville hilse med glæde, at vi ikke i for høj grad lader os imponere af afstemningen i Ministerrådet.
In the same way, the next section on chlorine concentration of 1000 ppm maximum, i.e. 0.1%, must in practice exclude PVC, which contains about 40% chlorine, but again, only after five years.
Bjørnvig (ARC). - Hr. formand, jeg mener som min kollega, at den fælles holdning bør forkastes ud fra følgende argumenter: Grænserne i stk. 1 for tungmetaller er for løse, specielt mangler en specifik grænse for cadmium, så direktivet, som det foreligger nu i den fælles holdning, vil medføre en forringelse af lovgivningen i Danmark, og så vidt jeg ved også i Holland.
I would particularly stress to the Council that, if accepted as a block, these would be radical and effective proposals which would be a real step forward for the environment in Europe.
For det andet er der ingen forbud mod PVC, som er den vigtigste kilde til forekomsten af klor i affaldet.
I would particularly commend to the Council the concept of mandatory minimum content of recycled materials for packaging and other goods.
Faktisk er emballage det område, hvor det er lettest at erstatte PVC med mindre skadelige materialer, og i Danmark er der indgået aftale med industrien om at afvikle brugen af PVC til emballage.
This measure, if accepted and implemented broadly across the single market, will create the missing markets for recycled materials that we all know are needed and make the measure truly practical and effective.
Denne aftale saboteres imidlertid, hvis den fælles holdning vedtages.
Van der Waal (NI). - (NL) Mr President, this second report by Mr Vertemati seeks to improve on the common position but it has only partially succeeded.
Selv om det er en frivillig aftale, vil den blive anset for en hindring af markedsføring efter artikel 18.
If we are serious about aiming for sustainability under the environment programme, a lot more is needed.
Derudover er det grotesk at fastsætte grænser for maksimal genanvendelse, som det gøres i artikel 6 i den fælles holdning, selv om der andetsteds lægges op til, at med lemslande kan gå ud over målene, hvis de skaffer sig tilstrækkelig kapacitet til genanvendelse og genvinding.
Patterson (PPE). - Mr President, I speak not as a Member of the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection but as a Member of the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and Industrial Policy of Parliament.
Alt dette er nemlig elementer, der med sig bringer faren for, at det indre marked for sekundære råstoffer ikke bliver bæredygtigt.
Firstly, prevention. This issue is acknowledged as an important one, but is not mentioned as a quantitative objective in the common position, despite the fact that this is one very good way of stemming the growing tide of waste.
At de nuværende forslag ikke sikrer anvendelsen af princippet om, at forureneren betaler, viser allerede det forslag, der her ligger på bordet, nemlig at de investeringer, der er forbundet med denne regulering, i tilslutning dertil atter skal finansieres fra europæiske kasser.
Excellent results have been obtained in the Netherlands thanks to an agreement, re-useable packagings and the use of light-weight bottles, but only because there is a set target.
Dermed krænker vi princippet om, at forureneren betaler. Enten ønsker vi, at emballagesektoren skal bære de ledsagende omkostninger med alle konsekvenser, eller også vi er af den opfattelse, at også denne sektor skal være tilgængelig for statslige interventioner.
There is no such target in these proposals.
De liberale går her ind for den vej, der fører til markedsøkonomi og til økologi i markedsøkonomien.
Without the cooperation of all manufacturers and consumers we shall achieve nothing here.
Vedrørende tungmetaller kunne vi leve med grænseværdien i artikel 11 på 100 ppm på vægtbasis, hvis den trådte i kraft med det samme og ikke først fem år efter direktivets ikrafttrædelse.
But the remedies in one country can, unfortunately, make the situation worse in another country.
Spørgsmålet er dog, om et medlemsland i givet fald kunne dømmes ved Domstolen for at have sat disse bestemmelser i kraft før tiden.
I have, in my own constituency, a paper recycling plant which actually has a grant from the European Community.
Tilsvarende må næste afsnit om en klorkoncentration på max. 1000 ppm, dvs. 0,1%, i praksis udelukke PVC, som indeholder ca. 40% klor, men igen først efter fem år.
It wrote to me in 1992 saying it was impossible to operate because of the glut of paper which was coming in from countries which had already installed these kind of measures.
Jeg mener således, at man kan leve med direktivet, hvis udvalgets ændringsforslag vinder tilslutning.
Secondly, the common position expresses no preference for specific methods of waste processing.
Jeg kan derimod ikke leve med den fælles holdning.
It confines itself to a summary of the options.
Den bør forkastes, således at vi gennem forligsproceduren kan sikre, at de miljøkrav, jeg har nævnt i det foregående, opfyldes.
But it is most important to set priorities, though not in the form of a rigidly enforced system.
Lannoye (V). - (FR) Vor kollega Muntingh sagde for lidt siden, at dette direktivforslag var emballagesektorens forslag. Jeg tror, han har ret.
Exemptions must be allowable, and for materials such as plastics for example the options must be studied more closely, and recycling is not automatically the best answer.
Man skal ikke heraf drage den konklusion, at vi ikke er rede til at drøfte ændringsforslagene; vi mener blot, at den grund læggende holdning bør være at forkaste forslaget.
What is essential is an indicative framework, suggesting a preferred method of processing.
Van der Waal (NI). - (NL) Hr. formand, den foreliggende anden Vertemati-betænkning tilsigter at forbedre den fælles holdning, men dette er kun delvist lykkedes.
Thirdly, the common position's objective of recycling 15% of each type of waste material over a period of five years is meaningless.
Allerførst det manglende seriøse hierarki med hensyn til metoder for forvaltning af affaldsbehandling; det er utroligt, at man sidestiller forbrænding, genanvendelse og genvinding.
I quote from Article 6, paragraph 6: 'Member States are permitted to pursue those targets in the interests of a high level of environment protection on condition that these measures avoid distortions of the internal market'.
Endelig det forhold, at de maksimale koncentrationer af
So I do not agree with the Environment Committee.
I Nederlandene har man via en aftale, ved hjælp af returemballage og brug af letvægtsflasker opnået meget positive resultater, men udelukkende fordi vi har et retningsgivende ende mål.
Article 3(8) and Amendment No 17 suggest that the preparation of fuel from recycled products - here they must mean plastics - should be classified as energy
Dette savnes i de nuværende forslag.
Lastly, I do not think that a maximum level should be set for recycling.
Den fælles holdning ville føre til at selv et obligatorisk pantsystem
Overproduction is a problem in some countries, but it will not be solved by prescribing a maximum level.
Uden samarbejde fra alle berørte fabrikanter og konsumenter opnår vi intet på dette område. de.
Patterson management of waste is poor overall; they are set lower targets with longer deadlines.
Men midlerne i ét land kan uheldigvis forværre situationen i et andet land.
It should be classified as recycling.
I min egen valgkreds har jeg et papirgenvindingsanlæg, der faktisk modtager støtte fra Det Europæiske Fællesskab.
This is quite important if we go back to an earlier article in which we say that each product should have a minimum target of 25%.
Et kartonanlæg skrev til mig i år og beskrev nøjagtig den samme situation.
This would not be possible for plastics unless preparation of fuel was classified as recycling.
For det andet giver den fælles holdning ikke udtryk for nogen præference med hensyn til affaldsbearbejdningsmetoden.
Ladies and gentlemen, the German, Danish and Dutch delegation did not agree on the Council deliberations on the environmental dumping proposed here.
Man nøjes med den sideordnede opremsning af mulighederne.
I have already made clear at the first reading of this directive that the Commission proposal does not set any standards.
En prioritetsliste er dog af stor betydning men ikke som et stift system.
That the compromise on the compromise does not now represent any improvement, is certainly not to be wondered at.
For det tredje er målsætningen i den fælles holdning om på fem år at nå frem til en genbrugsprocentsats på 15% for ethvert affaldsmateriale intetsigende.
The final point is on tax: Article 15, an economic matter.
I visse lande er man allerede oppe på 75% for glas.
You cannot make this matter - economic instruments or tax - obligatory under this directive.
Selv for plastik er en procentsats på 20 økonomisk opnåelig.
It should be left as a voluntary matter for Member States.
Derfor må vi være meget opmærksomme på, at hvis vi gør noget i ét land, må det ikke skade situationen i et andet.
White (PSE). - Mr President, I compliment the rapporteur on the work he has done over this very difficult period on what has been described as one of the most lobbied directives in the European Parliament's history.
Derfor er de maksimumsniveauer, der er omtalt i artiklerne 6, stk.l, a og 6, stk. 1, b, vigtige.
I do not know if that is true but it certainly felt like it from the point of view of members of the committee.
Maksimumsniveauerne forhindrer ikke et enkelt land i et sætte højere mål.
Breyer (V). - (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen; this proposal for a directive is a disastrously retrograde step in environmental policy.
Jeg citerer fra artikel 6, stk. 6: »Medlemsstaterne har lov til at forfølge disse mål for at opnå en høj miljøbe skyttelse på betingelse af, at disse foranstaltninger ikke virker forvridende på det indre marked«. Ingen kan vel være uenig heri.
The flood of packaging material can increase, specific quotas to avoid packaging waste are not prescribed, nor are there any economic instruments such as for instance a packaging distribution centre.
Til slut bør man efter min mening ikke angive noget maksimum for genbrug.
Nor is there a clear order of priorities between avoidance of waste, recycling, reuse and disposal.
Overproduktion er et problem i visse lande, men dette løser vi ikke ved dér at forskrive et maksimum.
Instead of promoting com pulsory recycling, this directive will bring increased pressure for incineration of waste.