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Enhver af os her er overbevist om, at gennemførelsen af det store indre marked forudsætter en social harmonisering, at der ikke er økono misk fremgang uden social sammenhæng, og at arbejdstagerne i vore lande naturligvis skal nyde godt af den fremgang, vi forventer af Europas opbygning. Men man skal forblive realistisk, og det har desværre ikke været tilfældet trods bestræbelserne fra vor ordfører, hr. Zeiler, som jeg gerne vil komplimentere for et glimrende arbejde, for den tålmodighed og det åbne sind hvormed han har søgt frem mod en fornuftig konsensus. Trods alt dette befinder vi os i en situation, der skader Europa-Parlamentet.
Whereas (a) Greece is the only EEC country which refuses religious conscientious objectors the right to carry out community service as an alternative to military service, (b) the 277 religious conscientious objectors currently detained in the military prison of Avlöna are living in wretched and inhuman con ditions and MEPs and Greek MPs have been denied access to their cells, (c) three ministers of the Church of Jehovah's Witnesses have been sentenced and illegally imprisoned since they are exempt under the law from military service and (d) the Greek authorities recently closed down and sealed up the conference hall in Alexandroupolis which has been used for 25 years by Jehovah's Witnesses.
Jeg beklager det, for det er ikke på den måde, kære kolleger, at vi fører det sociale Europa fremad, thi det er ikke med en så ansvarsløs adfærd, vi over for vore vælgere kan retfærdiggøre de nye beføjelser, vi — med så megen ret — forlanger. Derfor vil jeg stemme imod den lovgivningsmæssige beslutning.
The Council is aware of the interest of the European Parliament in problems linked to conscientious objection both from the content of various parliamentary questions put to the Council and the Commission in the past, and from the adoption of numerous resolutions.
Den nødvendige fleksibilitet på arbejdsmarkedet har socialisterne set væk fra, ligesom arbejdsmarkedets parters rolle er bombarderet. Ikke engang socialistiske regeringer i Fællesskabet kunne drømme om at leve op til disse socialistiske krav.
What immediate steps does the Council intend to take vis-à-vis the Greek authorities to halt these serious violations of human rights, liberate immediately all the detained religious conscientious objectors and provide a legal basis for community service as an alternative to military service?
Der er kun én vej ud af dette: at stemme imod.
I would mention here thé resolutions which were adopted in February 1983 and October 1989.
Bontempi (GUE). — (IT) Fru formand, vi vil til gengæld stemme for denne beslutning med overbevisning. Vi har bidraget til arbejdet i et vist omfang, og specielt ser vi vor indflydelse i en bestemmelse, som går ud over de oprindeligt foreslåede grænser: Vi har bidraget på et område så vigtigt som arbejds tiden, således at vi har opnået en ændring af anvendelsen af bestemmelsen, der dækker hele problematikken omkring nedsættelse og omorganisering af arbejdstiden.
WOHLFART, President-in-Office of the Council. — (FR) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, in reply to the question from Mr Dessylas on the unacceptable treatment of conscientious objectors in Greece, in particular Jehovah's Witnesses, let me make the following remarks.
Vi udsatte for en måned siden afstemningen, for at der kunne finde forhandlinger sted mellem grupperne om en forbedring af teksten. Nu har vore forhand lere fortalt mig, at forhandlinger blev afvist, og at der blev sagt: Vi taler først om det efter andenbehandlingen. handlingen.
In so doing, Parliament appears to have tacitly acknowledged that the Council does not have that competence.
Jeg er også i det store hele enig i nogle af de ændringsforslag, som er blevet vedtaget, og som har modereret det, der kunne virke som overdreven ønsketænkning.
The Council can only confirm, and I think it has already done so many times in this chamber, its profound attachment to human rights.
Men I, kære kristelig-demokratiske venner, bliver ved med at tale om realisme.
Facts of the kind described in the honourable Member's question are not normally appraised or commented on by the Council.
Her støder vi på et stort problem.
See Annex 'Question Time'.
Vor støtte til den fælles sociale lovgivning er af begrænset karakter, men oprigtig.
assume in accordance with the wishes of other Members of Parliament.
melser, indgriben og beslutninger træffes for sent i forhold til det indre markeds hastige udvikling, må vi være modige nok til at have en mere avanceret og mere progressiv målsætning her i Parlamentet.
PRESIDENT. — As the authors are not present, Questions Nos 12, 13 and 14 will be answered in writing. '
Det vil ikke sige, at vi i forbindelse med andenbehandlingen nægter at undersøge alle de elementer, der kan gøre dette direktiv bedre.
As they deal with the same subject, the following questions will be taken together:
Patterson (ED). — (EN) Fru formand, hvis fru Dury og hr. Tomlinson og andre socialister havde været i salen mandag aften, da vi debatterede emnet, ville de have hørt fru Papandreou, medlem af Kom missionen, fortælle dem, at halvdelen af de ændringsforslag, de lige har stemt for, var uforenelige med det retsgrundlag, hvorpå dette forslag er udarbejdet. Dette er meget alvorligt.
The Community and its Member States have also decided to set in motion the first phase of the ECSC human rights mechanism.
De har derfor gjort sig til grin i udvalget, de har gjort sig til grin i dag, og desværre gør de også Parlamentet til grin.
At the meeting between senior civil servants of the ECSC in Vienna, as well as at the 47th session of the Human Rights Commission in Geneva, the representatives of the presidency stressed their concern about the events in the Baltic countries in the name of the Community and its Member States.
Dillen (DR). — (NL) Fru formand, med al min ærbødighed og sympati for Dem konstaterer vi alligevel, at der her er skabt en farlig præcedens.
Question No 15, by Mr Cushnahan (H-0080/91) Subject: The situation in the Baltic states
Fru Dury har kunnet lade sin stemmeforklaring høre to gange. Normalt burde de 62 andre også kunne tale to gange i dag.
In view of the recent events in the Baltic states, what actions have the Foreign Ministers, meeting in political cooperation, taken to convey to the Soviet authorities the concern of the Community at these developments ?
Vi konstaterer således, at hr. Cot endnu en gang har kunnet spille diktator.
and Question No 16, by Mr Gangoiti Llaguno (H-0139/91)
For det andet konstaterer vi, at der er sket et under. Socialisternes kristelig-demokratiske slaver har i dag raslet med deres lænker.
In their statement of 4 February, the Community and its Member States expressed their satisfaction at the decision to hold a referendum in each of the Balticcountries, and their hope that by consulting the people in this way conditions would be created for the relaunch of a meaningful and constructive dialogue between the Soviet central authorities and the Baltic countries.
Vi må håbe, at denne forbedring vil vare ved, men vi er bange for, at det ikke vil ske, og for det tredje må vi til sidst endnu en gang konstatere, at socialisterne er de værste fjender af det sociale, de værste fjender af funktionærer, arbejdere og middelklassen.
They considered such a decision to be in accordance with the spirit of the Charter of Paris for a new Europe.
(Bifald fra De Europæiske Hojrepartiers Tekniske Gruppe)
Subject: Direct dialogue with the Baltic Republics
Det er muligt, at socialisterne ønsker, at disse ændringsforslag skal tages alvorligt, og i så fald kunne de naturligvis have stillet et ændringsforslag om ændring af forslagets retsgrundlag.
The Community's position with regard to the current conflict between the Government of the Soviet Union and the Baltic Republics is well known.
Der er en ganske udmærket artikel, der gør det muligt, nemlig artikel 36.
Does not EPC consider that, following on from this line, a direct dialogue should also be established with these Republics, in order to obtain information at first hand as to their intentions ?
Hvis man ønsker at ændre retsgrundlaget for et forslag — og jeg tilføjer at stille ændringsforslag, som indebærer en ændring af retsgrundlaget — skal sagen henvises til Retsudvalget til udtalelse ifølge artikel 36, stk. 3.
WOHLFART, President-in-Office of European Political Cooperation. — (FR) Mr President, ever since the events in the Baltic countries began, the Community and the Member States have been telling the Soviet authorities and their representatives of their lively concern about the serious situation in the Republics.
Det gjorde man ikke, og det er heller ikke blevet foreslået.
CUSHNAHAN. — (PPE) Regrettably on Monday of this week the fourteenth Lithuanian victim of the massacres in January died, and of course 300 were injured.
Dette er vigtigt, for hvis Rådet eller Kommissionen eller andre skal tage vore beslutninger alvorligt, skal de i det mindste overholde bestemmelserne i Traktaten og Parlamentets forretningsorden.
Despite all that has been done, the Soviet authorities still continue to deny freedom of the press in Vilnius and Riga and the parliament in Vilnius is still under siege.
Denne betænkning gør ikke nogen af delene.
There is no perceptible reduction in the Soviet military presence.
Der er kun én måde, vi kan råde bod herpå — og jeg appellerer til alle rimeligt fornuftige socialister overfor — og det er at forkaste beslutningsforslaget, for ellers gør De blot Parlamentet til grin.
While I would not support a suspension of medical and food aid on humanitarian grounds, I would certainly support the suspension of any other aid.
Cabezón Alonso (S). — (ES) Fru formand, vedtagelse af arbejdsmarkedslovgivning foregår sjældent på fredelig og rolig vis i noget som helst parlament, og derfor er der heller ingen grund til at forvente, at det skulle være tilfældet i Europa-Parlamentet.
Pressure needs to be brought to bear on the Soviet authorities, as the President-in-Office has said, to ensure that they comply with their commit ments under the Charter of Paris and the Helsinki Final Act and desist from any further intimidation.
Vi socialister er vant til i den forbindelse at blive beskyldt for at være lidet realistiske eller demagoger.
The problem we in the West face is that Gorbachev is highly regarded, and quite rightly, for the heroic stance he took in promoting perestroika and glasnost ; but the danger — and I think the Ministers meeting in political cooperation have to make a judgment here — is that he may succumb to the more hardline elements in the Soviet Union.
Det hører med til vort arbejde at tage den slags betegnelser på os.
Given his reputation in the West, which was justly earned, he could become a figleaf for the resurrection of the old Stalinist regime.
Vi vil imidlertid fortsætte vore bestræbelser på at opnå, at Det Europæiske Fælles skab indfører en social lovgivning.
I would urge the Ministers meeting in political cooperation to bear that in mind and take any action that is necessary to hammer the message home to the Soviet Union that this Parliament will not tolerate a repetition of these events in the Baltic states.
Raffarin (LDR). — (FR) Den beslutning, der er truffet, er en beslutning, der risikerer at gøre Parlamentet til grin.
They will examine the development of such cooperation in the light of the development of relations between the Union and the Baltic Republics.
Jeg tror, at vi i den periode, som vi gennemlever, med de vanskeligheder vi har med at give Parlamentet et seriøst image i alvorlige sager, gør os selv latterlige såvel ved dårligt tilpassede procedurer som ved beslutninger, der er forkastet af en lang række af arbejdsmarkedets parter, der i lige så høj grad tager sociale hensyn som mange af de socialister, der forsvarer denne tekst.
Against this background and after the tragic incidents in Vilnius and Riga, it was decided to postpone the meeting of the joint committee of the Community and the Soviet Union, planned for 24 and 25 January 1991.
Prag (ED). — (EN) Fru formand, Den Socialistiske Gruppes afstemning i dag udgør en risiko på tre afgørende, livsvigtige punkter: for det første subsidiaritetsprincippet, som vi stemte for i november; for det andet Parlamentets troværdiehed, som man alle-
As you know the Troika of the Community has in the meantime paid a visit to the Soviet Unin where it not only had a meeting with the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mr Besmertnik, as planned, but also one with President Gorbachev, which was not originally sehe-
Forhåbentlig sker det ved andenbehandlingen.
See Annex 'Question Time'.
Prag der er øjeblikke, hvor det ærlige menneske er i bekneb ikke blot for at gøre sin pligt, men for at forstå, hvad der er hans pligt.
WOHLFART understanding between the Soviet Union and its various republics and on respect for the constitution.
Det er somme tider tilfældet ved en afstemning.
Then you said you would like to recognise the Baltic states.
Jeg havde håbet til det sidste, at man med god vilje kunne have nået et kompromis.
I would like to ask you what diplomatic approach the twelve Member States of the European Community will adopt. I have never had an answer to that simple question.
Vi ville have modbevist Graf, der siger, at politik alt for ofte er kunsten at svigte de reelle og legitime interesser og skabe nogle imaginære og uretmæssige.
So I ask honourable Members to wait a little longer because tomorrow I will try to give them detailed reports not only on the Troika but also on the Soviet reply to the first phase of the mechanims of the Commission of Human Rights in the context of the ECSC.
Vi skulle have vist, at dette ikke blev bekræftet ved Europa-Parlamentets medlemmers opførsel, men ulykkeligvis vil nogen give ham ret efter det, vi har set her i dag.
I will be happy to deal with this very important question in greater breadth and depth tomorrow.
rede har sagt nok om — næsten nok i hvert fald; og frem for alt spørgsmålene om konkurrenceevne og beskæftigelse.
WOHLFART. — (FR) You quoted me as saying that the number of contacts was 47.
De er kun beskæmmende for vort Parlament.
I think there is still a slight difficulty here.
Det er ren og skær interventionisme fra Den Socialistiske Gruppes side, som beslutsomt har valgt at svæve i en drømmeverden frem for den virkelige verden, den virkelige konkurrenceverden. Den Socialistiske Gruppe kunne kun stemme for dette vrøvl, fru formand, fordi de er helt sikre på, at ingen er dumme nok til at gennem føre det i praksis!
The process which is now underway — and here I think everyone in this chamber will agree with me— is a very delicate process, and a certain balance, a certain equilibrium, is needed, if I may say so, to encourage dialogue between the central power and the Baltic republics.
Jeg har set de anstrengelser, hr. Zeiler har gjort sig, og hans forhandlingsvilje.
GANGOITI LLAGUNO (PPE). — (ES) Mr President, first I should like to thank the Presidency for the explanations which have been given and for announcing the report which it is to make to us tomorrow.
Jeg har oplevet den stem ning, der blev skabt i Socialudvalget, hvor nogle socialisters udfordrende holdning virkelig har været uforståelig, en holdning der ydermere stod i kontrast til de socialistiske ministres og regeringers og derfor undertiden virkede demagogisk og som en medvirkende årsag.
In any case, on the lines of the question which I put, I should like to ask further whether the Presidency of the Council does not think that once we have been informed about the visit of the Troika to Moscow and the European Economic Community's interest in the problems of the Baltic countries, it would be very useful not only to hold a meeting or interview with Moscow, with the authorities there, but also with the representatives of the Baltic republics currently suffering repression ?
Jeg hørte i går i den tværpolitiske fagforeningsgruppe, min socialistiske kollega Carnitis bekymringer, da han mindede om »at man ikke hjælper fremskridtet ved at svække overenskomst forhandlingerne«, og dette forslag begrænser over enskomstforhandlingerne.
I should like to ask whether the Council would agree to establish such contact itself or whether the Commission or a subcommittee of Members of Parliament should make direct contact with the representatives of the three Baltic republics to hear from them at first hand the views of the other party affected by this conflict.
Jeg har forstået EFS-se-kretærens skuffelse, idet han bedømmer, at forslaget er meget svagt.
MAHER. — (LDR) Were it not for the fact that world media attention is directed almost completely at the war in the Gulf at the moment, it would probably be focussed much more on the problems of the Baltic states.
Konklusion: Forslaget er ikke nyttigt, det vil ikke få nogen virkning, det ville blot medføre en risiko for en stigning i antallet af arbejdsløse.
In view of that situation, would the Council consider or has it given any consideration to sending observers to the Baltic states on a mòre or less semi-permanent basis while this problem lasts to observe what is going on and to show a presence in the Baltic states ?
Oomen-Ruijten (PPE). — (NL) Fru formand, socialisterne har i dag vundet en pyrrhussejr, men samtidig er det også en sort dag for Parlamentet og en sort dag for det sociale Europa.
WOHLFART. — (FR) I have not forgotten the question which was asked, because it was formulated a bit differently.
Men det er den ene side af medaljen.
That is absolutely clear.
Det betyder således en meget uansvarlig adfærd, som vi igen i dag har udvist.
It is also clear that before it can create firm ties with the Baltic republics the Community must continue to encourage the establishment of such a dialogue.
Hvis Den Socialistiske Gruppe nu stadig prædiker om det sociale Europa, så betyder det ikke noget som helst!
I believe that the two parties, the central government and the governments of the Baltic republics, have everything to gain from such a dialogue.
Alvarez de Paz (S). — (ES) Fru formand, jeg vil afgive skriftlig stemmeforklaring og vil følgelig her blot sige et par ord for at berolige visse gruppe ordførere, hvis indlæg var forberedt på forhånd, og som derfor ikke har bemærket, hvad der nu er blevet vedtaget.
The Community and its Member States thought it would be helpful if, alongside the measures already taken in relation to the Soviet Union, the political debate with the Soviet authorities were pursued and contacts with local representatives in the republics intensified.
Von Wogau (PPE). — (DE) Fru formand, mine damer og herrer, Europa-Parlamentet har med den afstemning, vi netop har oplevet, ikke gjort sig selv nogen tjeneste.
WOHLFART. — (FR) I leave it to the honourable Member to make his own appreciation of the situation in the Soviet Union as he sees it, especially, as regards the Baltic states.
Vi har stemt om 124 ændringsforslag til Zeller-Betænkningen.
I would like to ask honourable members to avoid what I feared when I first attempted to answer the question.
Vi må gøre os klart, at dette teknisk set er en kraftpræstation, for der er vel intet parlament i verden, der på mindre end en time ville være i stand til at stemme om 124 ændringsforslag på ni sprog.
I did not want us to get into lengthy discussion now, either on Soviet central government policy towards the Baltic states and the other republics which make up the confederation or on the policy the Twelve are drawing up in the light of the elements of information collected during the Troika's visit.
For et øjeblik siden vedtog vi med socialisternes stemme, at den nedsættelse af den daglige arbejdstid, som de har så meget imod, ikke skal indføjes i det foreliggende dokument.
As the honourable Member knows, several Member States already have informal contacts with the Baltic republics.
Det ville være hensigtsmæssigt, om ovennævnte personer ikke mødte op med indlæg, der var forberedt på forhånd, eller om de i det mindste var opmærksomme på, hvad Parlamentet vedtager, da man således kunne undgå utidig forargelse og højtråbende kritik.
If members of the European Parliament want to go to the Baltic countries, and this is the idea put forward by the honourable member, we would encourage any initiative of that kind.
De Vitto (PPE). — (IT) Fru formand, der er et gammelt ordsprog, som stadig kan bruges, om, at
But above all let me emphasize that we need a dialogue based on mutual
Jeg må ganske enkelt konstatere, at Udvalget om Sociale Anliggender, Beskæftigelse og Arbejdsmiljø og det socialistiske flertal ikke har levet op til dette krav.
HABSBURG (PPE). — (FR) May I ask the representative of the Council one question : I discern in the official
Vi har i Socialudvalget gjort vort bedste for at nå frem til kompromiser.
HABSBURG statements of our Community and also in the remarks of certain politicians a dangerous confusion.
Det har vi ikke accepteret.
There are different situations in the Soviet Union.
Vi var enige med den holdning, som det europæiske fagforbund indtog, og som hr. Christiansen også netop indtog.
The Baltic states are real states, because of the twelve members of the Community there was only one country which recognized the occupation of the Baltic states by the Soviets, and that was Hitler's Germany.
Man må skelne mellem på den ene side den maksimale arbejdstid og på den anden side drøftelserne om de kollektive overenskomster.
So only Hitler recognized it, everyone else refused to recognize it.
Disse drøftelser bliver undermineret, hvis vi gennem lov­givning begynder at foreskrive 35 timer og andre lignende bestemmelser — det er ikke acceptabelt. Vi vil fortsætte med at udforme den sociale dimension, men jeg vil slutte i denne forhandlings tyske ånd: Nach Canossa gelten wir nicht, auch nicht nach dem socialistischen Canossa.
Now, I see a certain confusion arising between those republics we have recognized as being in the Soviet Union, and the Baltic countries which we have not recognized in that way.
De har heller ikke gjort arbejdstagerne i Det Euro­pæiske Fællesskab nogen tjeneste!
WOHLFART. — (FR) It is very difficult to add anything further to my initial reply.
Vi har ikke vedtaget 35­timers ugen, og det er godt. Alligevel er der truffet en lang række beslutninger, som jeg er sikker på, at de socialistiske regeringer i Frankrig og Spanien ikke vil gennemføre. Derfor stemmer jeg — ganske som hele min gruppe — imod denne betænk­ning.
As regards the war in the Gulf, the Prcsident-in-Office of the Council, Mr Poos, has stated that at present the EPC has no competence in the matter.
(Bifald fra ΡΡ E-Gruppen)
PRESIDENT. — Question No 17, by Mr Robles Piquer (H-0077/91)
Cox (LDR). — (EN) Fru formand, jeg beklager, at jeg ikke gør dette skriftligt, og jeg beklager også, at jeg afgiver en stemmeforklaring, for det har jeg ikke for vane.
HUGHES (S). — I fully understand the problem facing the President-in-Office if this specific issue has not been discussed in political cooperation.
Men ændringsforslagene til denne betænk­ning, som socialisterne har stillet i Udvalget om Sociale Anliggender, Beskæftigelse og Arbejdsmiljø, er efter min mening parlamentarisk sabotage.
However, he will recall that as part of the talks on the reduction of conventional forces in Europe, detailed consideration was given to verification arrangements in order to check compliance with the agreements.
Vi arbejdede i månedsvis i dette hus med at udforme vore institutionelle krav til regeringskonferencen om Den Politiske Union, og til trods for et arbejde, der er præsteret, og den forøgede magt, vi ønsker — og jeg mener vi er berettiget til at kræve det — under­minerer det, der sker her i dag, vor sag.
Could the President-in-Office tell us whether he feels that verification arrangements are in fact satisfactory and will monitor this sort of situation ? Could he also tell us whether in fact European Political Cooperation is informed of the periodic checks carried out under the verification procedures ?
Mange medlemslande står stærkt tøvende ved udsig­ten til forøget demokratisk legitimitet.
Subject: Movements of heavy armaments in the USSR