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Ganske vist går det fremad på obligationsmarkederne med udstedelse af lån i ecu. I fjor blev der udbudt 25 mia. ECU, og denne valuta er nu den tredjestørste på disse markeder.
Thirdly, in the definition of guidelines for exchangerate policy, there is once again no mention of consulting Parliament.
I årets to første måneder udstedtes der 12 mia. ECU, hvilket for øvrigt er lidt for meget og derfor foranledigede mig til at anmode økonomi- og finansministrene eller i hvert fald centralbankcheferne om at holde samråd for at få lidt mere styr på nye emissioner.
I therefore call on the Commission, on the strength of the democratic legitimacy that we represent, to make use of the positions we have taken in defending itself against the inroads that certain finance ministers are trying to make.
Giscard d'Estaing (LDR). — (FR) Fru formand, en bemærkning til forretningsordenen.
I feel that what we really want to hear from the Commission is how the Community must react to the internal and external instability that is threatening us.
Vi har i efter middag en meget interessant forhandling om et meget vigtigt emne, og den oprindeligt meget omfattende dagsorden førte til, at Kommissionens redegørelse blot skulle efterfølges af spørgsmål.
How does the Commission intend to give the first phase of Economic and Monetary Union a serious face, and above all how does it intend to involve the European Parliament in a more realistic way than has been the case so far?
Men hvis resultaterne er tilfredsstillende på markedet for nye emissioner, så er det samme ikke tilfældet for resten. For restens vedkommende tror jeg — men det kan jeg komme nærmere ind på under forhandlingen, hvis De ønsker det — at man nøje bør skelne mellem ecuens udbredelse og dens styr kelse, dens tiltrækningskraft.
HERMAN (PPE). — (FR) Madam President, on the whole we are able to give our approval to the efforts the Commission is making to defend the broad lines of the Delors report against the distortions and cannibalizations that certain finance ministers are seeking to introduce, in some instances in defiance of the formal undertakings given by the Heads of State or Govern ment at the Rome summit.
Jeg mener imidlertid, at vi i eftermiddag råder over tilstrækkelig tid til, at vi i henhold til forretningsordenens artikel 56 kan få en kort forhandling.
It seems to me that the Commission's approach to dealing with this attitude is open to two criticisms.
Formanden. — Jeg har modtaget en lignende anmodning fra Den Socialistiske Gruppe.
Well, apart from the fact that it is reported in all the newspapers, or virtually all of them, what we really want to be told about is the Commission's replies to the various arguments. This is something on which the
Cot (S). — (FR) Fru formand, jeg er enig med hr. Giscard d'Estaing.
Finally, I have a few thoughts on the proposals you are making concerning the ECU.
Hvad angår ecus udbredelse især i handelstransaktioner, er Kommissionen ved at udarbejde forslag til supplering af det, nogle medlemsstater har, eller til afhjælp af mangler i andre.
I agree with you, and there is no need for us to repeat this, that there are drawbacks to the hard ECU proposal that are unacceptable to us, but at the same time I find that the Commission is being a little hasty in opting for the frozen ECU in preference to the hardened ECU that the Spanish are proposing.
Endvidere må for store omkostninger ved brug af ecuen bekæmpes.
It strikes me that the Spanish proposal has some very strong points. What does freezing the ECU mean in practice ?
Jeg mener at en kort forhandling på en halv times tid eller måske en time vil være passende. Jeg kunne
Because of this, I saw merit in the ECU proposed by the Spanish Government, rather than the frozen ECU.
Formanden. — Jeg forelægger forslaget om forhandling for Parlamentet.
I should be interested in hearing the Commission's counter-arguments on this.
Jeg vil foreslå, at fristen for indgivelse af eventuelle forslag til beslutning fastsættes til i dag kl. 18 og for at stille ændringsforslag til i morgen kl. 17.
My question is this : are steps going to be taken to bring · these monetary policy concepts into closer alignment, and what is to be done about reconciling the differing demands of the internal and external concepts ?
godt tænke mig, at Ernst de la Graete-Betænkningen blev taget med i farten, da det forekommer mig vanskeligt at adskille monetære spørgsmål fra økonomiske spørgsmål i almindelighed.
My second question is this: do you think the mix between monetary policy and budgetary policy is satisfactory in the Community at present ?
Det vil være overordentlig beklageligt, og jeg tror ikke, at der er nogen her, der ønsker det.
So do you think that, as matters stand, the mix of monetary and budgetary policy needs to be changed, and if so how ?
Gollnisch (DR). — (FR) Fru formand, en bemærkning til forretningsordenens artikel 56, stykke 2 og 3. Flere gruppeformænd har anmodet om en forhandling i henhold til forretningsordenens artikel 56, stykke 2, hvis jeg ellers husker rigtigt.
GISCARD D'ESTAING (LDR). — (FR) Mr President, I should like to start by telling the President of the Commission why we wanted to hold this debate.
Chanterie (PPE). — (FR) Fru formand, også vor gruppe vil gerne tilkendegive sin interesse for en forhandling, der svarer til hr. Delors' redegørelse, som for øvrigt har tilskyndet os til at uddybe sagen.
As of now, therefore, we are under an obligation to coordinate monetary policy and there ought to be a public debate on the subject.
Jeg mener derfor, at vi har tid til at bruge en time. En halv time kommer ud på det samme som spørge tiden.
That debate ought to be held in Parliament.
Formanden. — Kære kolleger, jeg vil fremføre noget højst usædvanligt.
You said that basically this was working fairly satisfactorily.
Det er vist første gang i seks år, at jeg har kunnet sige: I eftermiddag har vi tid nok!
However, from the technical viewpoint, there are proving to be certain drawbacks.
Vi har to punkter på dagsordenen i tiden indtil kl. 20.
For instance, the position of the peseta is causing the United Kingdom problems in keeping within the margin.
Så hvis De ønsker det, så lad os afsætte en time eller halvanden, hvis diskussionen kræver det.
This suggests that having a number of wide margins in operation simultaneously is not a helpful technical factor, but an adverse one.
Jeg foreslår altså en time, højst halvanden.
If that is the case, is corrective action needed ?
De fulgte forretningsordenens bestemmelse helt kor rekt ved omgående at høre Parlamentet om det formålstjenlige i forhandlingens afholdelse.
The question we are asking ourselves and want to ask you is this : can the current state of coordination of monetary policies in the Community be said to be satisfactory ?
Det, jeg beklager, er, at det i en helt tilsvarende situation i går ikke kunne lade sig gøre at følge denne fremgangsmåde!
The first consists of the countries, or in fact the country that has a dominant currency and gives priority to domestic policy objectives.
I går talte kommissæren om landbrugsspørgsmål.
This is Germany, which is in a position to be very independam in the conduct of its monetary policy and accordingly gives first priority to its domestic economic objectives.
Han fremsatte en redegørelse af betragtelig betydning, i realiteten — hvilket erkendtes af alle talere fra alle pladser — en erkendelse af den fælles landbrugspolitiks fiasko.
Hence its recent decision to raise its rates somewhat, and the threemonth rate is now about 1% higher than it was last summer.
Beumer (PPE), formand for Udvalget om Økonomi, Valutaspørgsmål og Industripolitik. — (NL) Fru formand, Økonomi- og Valutaudvalget havde foreslået at afholde en forhandling under ét. Efter de indlæg, der nu er fremsat, gad jeg vidst, om det ikke er bedre at samle det i en forhandling.
The second group is made up of the countries that are the smaller members of the EMS, countries with open frontiers which have a different monetary policy objective, consisting in maintaining their exchange rates and in particular their parities with the leading currencies, the Deutschmark in particular.
Men måske kan Kommissionen selv sige, hvad den mener.
Their monetary policy motivations are therefore different.
Men jeg vil gerne fra Kommissionen høre, om det måske ikke er fornuftigere at gøre det til én forhandling.
Consequently, whatever the state of their domestic economies, they too have been moved to raise their rates.
Formanden. — Hr. Beumer, sådan er dagsordenen udformet.
Allow a fond father to ask what is to become of his child, by which I mean the future role of the ECU.
To forhandlinger.
A few suggestions.
Det forekommer mig vanskeligt at lave om på det.
First of all, what are you going to do to bring the ECU into wider use in the Community's budgetary operations ?
Jeg konstaterer, at man følger reglerne, når der er tale om formændene fra bestemte grupper, nemlig Den Socialistiske Gruppe, der for øvrigt nyder min fulde anseelse og handler i fuld overensstemmelse med forretningsordenen!
In the third group of countries you have the other large members of the EMS, Italy and France for instance, which set themselves domestic policy objectives and at the same time naturally pay close attention to their exchangerate positions.
Men når der er tale om en anmodning fremsat af DR-Gruppen, nøjes man med at sige, at den skal blive videregivet — hvornår er der ingen, der nøjagtigt ved — til Det Udvidede Præsidium, der sikkert som sædvanlig vil lave kræmmerhuse af den!
Their circumstances are more complicated, since on the one hand they are anxious to lower interest rates in pursuit of domestic policy objectives, while on the other they are currently having
Når det er sagt, ønsker vi ingen afstemning om beslutningsforslagene
In fact the first option, the hard ECU, as distinct from the current ECU, has to be rejected.
Formanden. — Parternes holdning er helt klar og i overensstemmelse med forretningsordenen.
GISCARD D'ESTAING point is that the ECU must evolve over time like any of the strong currencies in the Community, not the strongest, but one of the strong currencies.
i forbindelse med denne forhandling.
currency in Stage 2, we have already gained a great deal.
Det forekom mer os væsentligt, at problemet betragtes i sin helhed, og derfor mener vi heller ikke, at afstemning snarest muligt er påkrævet.
The first question then is who will manage this common currency?
I alle tilfælde stemmer vi imod, idet vi synes, at det er nyttigere at få en samlet afstemning om fru Ernst de la Graetes betænkning, hvori de betragtninger om Den Økonomiske og Monetære Union, der udspringer af forhandlingen, som vi skal til at påbegynde nu, nødvendigvis vil finde plads.
Will it be something like the monetary fund proposed by the UK Government which after all would have more to do than the central banking system which was proposed by the Delors report all those years ago ? It seems to me that there is a possibility of a compromise.
Miranda da Silva (CG). — (PT) Fru formand, jeg tilslutter mig det synspunkt, som andre talere har udtrykt, nemlig at det er i orden, at denne forhandling afholdes, men at vi i betragtning af, at der foreligger en betænkning, og at en længere forhandling om dette spørgsmål er fastsat til næste mødeperiode, mener, som det også oprindeligt var hensigten, at forhandlingen ganske rigtigt bør afholdes, men at der ikke skal forelægges forslag til beslutning som afslutning på forhandlingen.
My third point concerns the problem of whether, in a basket based on an entirely artificial weighting, which we and our colleagues decided upon in 1979, the weighting should be fixed and frozen. It is perfectly possible to freeze the weighting, which I agree with, and at the same time build in the effect of exchangerate changes resulting from revaluations, so that in future the movement of the ECU will be between the average of Community countries and the strongest currency, the effect of which would be to make the ECU appreciate and become more attractive.
Men De har også modtaget anmodninger fra nogle, som ønsker at stille spørgsmål til kommissionsformanden på baggrund af den af ham afgivne redegørelse. Agter De at slå disse to lister sammen? men?
So why not make it part of your technological projects to make sure that the ECU features on all computer keyboards in future ?
Det er uheldigt, hvis vi pludselig underminerer dette med en uforberedt beslutning. Jeg synes, at dette er en god forhandling.
That means that what we are really talking about is what criteria you set up for the transition from a common currency, the ECU, which everyone is in favour of, to the ECU becoming a single currency.
Vi kan tage dette med os videre i Økonomi- og Valutaudvalget for at følge, hvad der videre sker. Måske kunne det tænkes, at vi så i april eller maj kan forelægge endnu et velgennemtænkt forslag til beslutning.
I would like to suggest to the President of the Commission that what we should do now is not set a date, but set a number of criteria in terns of the degree of convergence of Community economies, the size of the ECU market and the development of the ECU as a common currency, so that after a time we shall discover that the common currency is already becoming a single currency, in which case it will be relatively simple for the national parliaments of the Community to decide that henceforth it will be a single currency.
Naturligvis kan vi godt behandle forslaget til beslutning i fru Ernst de la Graetes betænkning.
Mr Delors, I do hope you are going to pay more attention to this child.
Da vi nu er blevet enige om en times varighed, får De fire minutter.
I personally am very optimistic and I wonder whether the President of the Commission is too.
Chanterie (PPE). — (NL) Fru formand, vi vil gerne støtte hr. Cots og hr. Beumers ønske.
PATTERSON (ED). — Madam President, I start with a tangential point.
Vi mener nemlig, at afstemningen om fru Ernst de la Graetes betænkning er tilstrækkelig, at vi alle skal have tid før denne debat, og at vi ikke skal koncentrere os om at udarbejde bestemte tekster, der allerede er blevet knæsat i en tidligere betænkning, før Parlamentet kom med ind i billedet.
I understood the President of the Commission to say that the Germans are going to increase their valueadded tax to 15%, which perhaps will allow his colleague Mrs Scrivener to make a proposal for a minimum VAT rate of 15% and that will solve the problem.
Vi støtter ønsket om ikke at indgive noget forslag til beslutning nu.
So my first question is: why not do that?
Der er stemt om forhandlingens afholdelse, men der er ikke stemt om, hvad der derefter skal ske. I henhold til artikel 56 er det gruppeformændene, der skal træffe denne beslutning.
In this period, in fact, we are seeing the reappearance of many projects of individual Member States that, judging at least by what one reads, accentuate a language difference.
Giscard d'Estaing (LDR). — (FR) På dette punkt lægger vi vægt på, at tingene foregår efter de i Europa-Parlamentet gældende regler.
My second question arises from a question I put to the President of the Commission two months ago.
Når der afholdes forhandling, kan der også forelægges beslutningsforslag. Denne mulighed fremgår af artikel 56, og det er der ingen, der kan modsætte sig.
I asked him whether there was the possibility of a compromise between the various streams of thought going on in the EMU IGC and he replied one month ago that he did not think it was possible.
Metten (S). — (NL) Fru formand, jeg kan berolige Dem, jeg skal senere tale seks minutter om fru Ernst de la Graetes betænkning, og i modsætning til hr. Giscard d'Estaing kan jeg godt se en enorm overlapning mellem Kommissionens beretning om den økonomiske situation og det, hr. Delors lige har sagt.
I would like to put the same question to him again, because I detected from what he was saying that there is the possibility of a compromise between the different strands of thought, particularly on the question of the development of the ECU.
Kommissionens beretning om den økonomiske situation er jo netop ikke det samme som den økonomiske årsberetning fra sidste år, men behandler også den første fase i Den Økonomiske og Monetære Union, eller skal i det mindste gøre det.
This seems to be the new element. The British Government's proposals had one defect, which was that they involved the creation not merely of a thirteenth currency but of a fourteenth currency, because the present ECU already exists.
En af min gruppes hovedindvendinger til den — men det vil jeg komme tilbage til senere — er, at rent faktisk fremgår det hverken af beretningen eller af Kommissionens og Rådets aktiviteter, at der er en forskel i situationen mellem nu og sidste år.
We now apparently have two proposals on the table — the Spanish ECU and the frozen ECU — both of which enjoy considerable support, which would mean developing not a fourteenth but the thirteenth currency as a parallel currency in Stage 2.
Hvad det angår, er jeg også gerne parat til at tilslutte mig hr. Delors' bemærkninger desangående.
That seems to me an enormous step forward.
Når jeg så alligevel reagerer på hr. Delors' bemærkninger, så må jeg sige, at han som altid er helt klar i sin analyse. Jeg er imidlertid meget nysgerrig efter at
If we can all agree on the development of the ECU, the hardening of the ECU or whichever way you put it as the parallel or common
Udmærket, men bortset fra at det mere eller mindre står at læse i alle aviser, vil vi navnlig have at vide, hvad Kommissionen har svaret på de respektive parters argumenter. Det indebærer, at Kommissionen må kæmpe.
SPECIALE full — and impossible, in my view, in the form in which it is formulated — economic convergence between Member States.
Den anden kritik, jeg vil frem sætte, er, at Kommissionen på dette punkt har en forbundsfælle af format i Parlamentet, hvilket den imidlertid ikke benytter sig synderligt af. Kommissionen reagerer relativt bureaukratisk for ikke at sige teknokratisk, medens vi repræsenterer opinionen blandt de europæiske borgere, blandt alle dem, der beskæftiger sig med valuta og snart skal til at bruge den.
before 1997 at the earliest and apparently prefers a board of the central banks' governors, while putting more emphasis than ever on three points: first, really permanent convergence between the economic policies of the Twelve, evidenced by considerable tightening of interest rates on the financial markets; secondly, the need for a high degree of price stability ; and thirdly, reduced budget deficits in the Member States of the Community.
Når talen er om udnævnelse af direktionsmedlemmer, accepteres allernådigst høring af Parlamentet, men det er Rådet, der alene foretager udnævnelsen.
What is not right, in my view, is the mechanism of the German proposal, which acknowledges this concern but gives the wrong answer to the problems of economic and monetary union.
høre de konklusioner, han drager, eller som han må drage af analyserne af de instabilitetsfaktorer, som påvirker Fællesskabet udefra.
It also appears — here again we can only go by reports — that a French proposal has been presented, that simply forgets the European Parliament, belittles the role of the Commission and exalts solely that of the Council.
Dette er alt sammen trusler, som nærmer sig os, som Europæisk Fællesskab.
Thus that might also be a test of the political reactions of other Member States.
Dernæst er der også en række interne grunde til instabilitet: Storbritannien oplever en recession, en række andre medlemsstater gennemlever tydelige vækstafmatninger, og et par medlemsstater har endog store økono miske problemer.
Whereas in December France had been reiterating its commitment to a single currency and an independent central bank which should be counterbalanced by a political authority, an economic government of the Twelve, by January it was acknowledging that a common currency in the form of a hard ECU would be a good thing, leaving the door open to what could become a single currency if our peoples and governments adjusted to the idea.
Det er alt sammen meget interessant og helt rigtigt at bemærke dette, men vi er i øjeblikket i færd med den første fase i Den Økono miske og Monetære Union, der skal føre os som Fællesskab frem til nu at formulere svar på truslerne udefra og på den instabilitet, der truer os internt.
These changes of position, touches on the brakes, hesitations, not to say downright contradictions, cannot be ignored and confirm more vividly than ever the good sense of the measured, deliberate and pragmatic position constantly reiterated, if I may remind you, for a long time now by the Group of the European Democratic Alliance.
Jeg mener at måtte slå fast, at de indledende øvelser, som Råd og Kommission indtil nu har gjort i den første fase af Den Monetære og Økonomiske Union, kommer totalt til kort.
The first stage of EMU entails completing the single market, reducing economic and regional disparities and having all the European currencies in membership of the ERM and obeying the same rules.
Jeg har egentlig ikke set noget som helst, som bare minder om den spædeste begyndelse til en effektiv koordinering af økonomiog valutapolitik — tværtimod. Når vi overværer, at den tyske rente — mod Tysklands interesse og især mod de andre medlemsstaters — er steget selv uden, så vidt jeg kan se, koordinering mellem Bundesbank og Forbundsregeringen, men i al fald uden nogen koordinering med regeringerne i de andre medlems stater, så mener jeg nok, at den slags kræver en reaktion.
It remains a fact, however, that, faced with the formal presentation of complex projects, if the Commission and the European Parliament do not strongly emphasize again the necessity of matching accepted principles with concrete action and coherent steps in the direction of economic and monetary union on the basis of those principles and, therefore, in the same direction as the intergovernmental conferences, the situation can split further apart with even more serious consequences.
For det tredje overvejes det heller ikke i definitionen af de valutapolitiske retningslinjer at høre Parlamentet. I vore forslag, som ingen i sin tid bestred i synderlig grad, fremsatte vi en henstilling, som vi fandt passende.
At this stage, Mr President, how do you envisage the conditions for advanced coordination of economic policies, which is indissociable from genuine monetary union ?
Idet jeg støtter mig til den demokratiske legitimitet, som vi repræsenterer, anmoder jeg derfor Kommissionen om at benytte vore positioner til at forsvare sig mod visse finansministres indblanding. ding.
After the ups and downs of these recent months, having heard what the Commission has heard, what is needed is for you to lay down lines of action, mark out milestones, and make your views absolutely clear. That is what we are expecting.
Jeg mener, at vi egentlig godt kunne tænke os at høre Kommissionen fortælle, hvorledes Fællesskabet bør reagere på den indre og ydre ustabilitet, som truer os. Hvorledes forestiller Kommissionen sig, at den vil give første fase af Den Økonomiske og Monetære Union en seriøs udformning og frem for alt, hvordan forestiller Kommissionen sig, at Europa-Parlamentet mere realistisk end hidtil kan inddrages i dette?
LATAILLADE (RDE). — (FR) Madam President, ladies and gentlemen, everyone seems to be in favour of establishing a genuine economic and monetary union, everyone from the majority who want to see a single currency and a European central bank on federal lines created without delay to the pragmatists who advocate greater convergence of national and regional economic structure while at the same time their support to the idea of putting a common currency into circulation, with the backing of market forces.