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(') Meddelelse om Rådets fælles holdninger: se protokollen.
In addition I should like to remind honourable Members that as from this year there is the possibility of granting com pensatory allowances for production in lessfavoured areas.
(2) Dagsorden for næste møde: se protokoUen.
That covers in fact the majority of cases, since this extensive production is mostly situated in those areas.
Europa-Parlamentets forhandlinger
Agenda for next sitting: see Minutes.
MØDET FREDAG DEN 18. DECEMBER 1987
No 2-359/271
Resultaterne af Den Paritetiske Forsamlings arbejde i 1987 — Betænkning (dok. A2224/87) af Cassanmagnago Cerretti
Work of the ACP/EEC Joint Assembly in 1987 — Report (Doc. A 2-224/87) by Mrs Cassanmagnago Cerretti
Den Fælles Toldtarif — Anden betænkning (dok A2-218/87) af Saridakis
Common Customs Tariff— Second Report (Doc A 2-218/87) by Mr Saridakis
A2-240/87) af Lizin
A 2-240/87) by Mrs Lizin
Erhvervsfremme- og innovationscentre — Betænkning (dok.
Business and innovation centres — Report (Doc.
A2-217/87) af Tourrain
A 2-217/87) by Mr Tourrain
Midlertidig ændring af finansforordningen vedrørende De Europæiske Fællesskabers al mindelige budget — Betænkning (dok. A2233/87) af Price
Temporary amendment of the financial regulation applicable to the general budget of the
Integreret regionaludviklingsprogram til for del for Portugal — Betænkning (dok.
Integrated development programme for Portugal — Report (Doc.
A2214/87) af Sakellariou
A 2-214/87) by Mr Sakellariou
Tildeling af finansiel støtte til transportinfrastrukturprogrammer — Betænkning (dok. A2-241/87) af Anastassopoulos
Grant of financial support to transport infrastructure projects — Report (Doc.
A2-204/87) af Newton Dunn
A 2-204/87) by Mr Newton Dunn
Sommertid — Indstilling ved anden be handling (dok.
Summertime — Recommendation (Doc.
A2-257/87) fra Transportudvalget valget
A 2-257/87) by the Committee on Transport Mr Bombard; Mr Anastassopoulos; Mr Clinton Davis (Commission)
Afbrydelse af sessionen
Approval of the Minutes
FORSÆDE: LORD PLUMB hele spørgsmålet om gengivelse af de taler, der holdes her i salen.
If its finding is the same according to the Rules then so be it.
Formanden. — Protokollen fra mødet i går er om delt.
FORD (S). — Mr President, on the same point I did not hear Mr Kuijper's speech and from what I have had reported to me I would not have agreed with it.
Hvis ingen gør indsigelse, betragter jeg den som god kendt.
I do find it rather bizarre that we are now going to debate whether a Member's speeches can be heard and reported.
Von der Vring (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne gøre det meget klart, at det ud fra et tysk medlems synsvinkel er aldeles udelukket, at noget ord, der er udtalt her i salen, slettes i referatet af nogen som helst. Man kan påtale det, man kan forfølge det, man kan straffe, men man kan ikke slette det, og jeg anser det ligefrem for anormali, når en gruppeformand i timevis bestræber sig på at indføre censur her i hu set.
I hope, Mr President, you will clarify the situation with regard to your referral to the Com mittee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities and that you will refer to them the possibility of changing the situation for the future rather than apply retrospectively any new rule or any new interpretation of the Rules that the Com mittee might care to make.
Formanden. — Hr. von der Vring, må jeg minde Dem om, at det præcis var det svar, jeg gav i aftes.
PRESIDENT. — I am not suggesting that we debate this spécifie issue.
Jeg tror derfor, at min afgørelse var korrekt, sådan som jeg opfattede situationen.
It was raised in the context of criticism last night which Mr Prout felt was justifiable.
Imidlertid udelukker dette ikke muligheden af, at det behandles i Udvalget.
I ruled on that position last night and that is the position minuted.
Hvis dets resultat er det samme i henhold til Forretningsordenen, har det gyldighed.
All that will be checked is the correctness of the record of the statement made by the President in the Chair at that moment.
Prout (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne hen vise til side 17 og 24 i protokollens engelske udgave.
With regard to page 24, you will recall, Mr President, your reaction to my request last night that Mr Kuijper's contribution to the Ethiopian debate be deleted from the record.
Nederst på side 17 er der et afsnit om den ordveksling, jeg havde under Etiopien-debatten med den, der førte forsædet dengang, hr. Seefeld.
You very kindly suggested, after you had made your statement, that any Member who felt concerned by remarks made in this House should take action according to the provisions of the Rules of Procedure.
Jeg vil være Dem meget taknemlig, hvis De vil kontroUere, hvad der står i protokoUen, og se om det nøje svarer til, hvad vi sagde.
It was quite clear that Mr Kuijpers had no time allotted to him to make a speech about Saragossa during a debate on Ethiopia.
Sådan som jeg husker det, genspejles hr. Seefelds første reaktion på mine bemærkninger ikke i protokoUen her.
Therefore it is my submission that for those reasons alone his speech can be deleted.
Ford (S). — (EN) Til samme sag, hr. formand.
PROUT (ED). — Mr President, I did not wish to return to this matter but in the light of what Mr Ford has said I feel I have to.
Jeg hørte ikke hr. Kuijpers' tale, og efter det, man har fortalt mig om den, ville jeg ikke have været enig i den.
PRESIDENT. — Mr Prout, on your first point on the question of the correctness or otherwise of the Minutes, we shall certainly check that against what Mr Seefeld stated and they will be corrected if necessary.
Men jeg finder det temmelig ejendommeligt, at vi nu går ind i en debat om, hvorvidt et medlems taler kan påhøres og gengives.
My understanding having read the Minutes was that they were correct, but we shall check.
Formanden. — Jeg mener ikke, vi skal drøfte dette spørgsmål.
The fact of the matter is that, under Rule 82, you already do have powers to delete speeches in certain circumstances.
Det blev rejst i forbindelse med en kritik i aftes, som hr. Prout fandt var berettiget.
I do not therefore think that Mr von der Vring's remarks were accurate.
Alt, hvad der bliver kontroUeret, er rigtigheden af gengivelsen af den erklæring, som mødets leder afgav på det tids punkt.
On your second point about referral to the Committee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of CreT
Med hensyn til side 24 vil De erindre, hr. formand, hvordan De reagerede på min bemærkning i aftes om, at hr. Kuijpers' bidrag i Etiopien-debatten skuUe slettes i referatet.
As to Mr Ford's remarks, I certainly hope that you will consider the possibility of the deletion of the speech in question in the light of any decision by the Committee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities which supports my own inter pretation of that rule.
De foreslog meget venligt, efter at De havde afgivet Deres erklæring, at ethvert medlem, der følte sig berørt af bemærkninger, der var faldet i salen, skulle handle i overensstemmelse med reglerne i Forretningsordenen.
dentials and Immunities, your request is granted. I think that is the way to deal with it so that in com mittee they can consider this incident and future similar incidents and the whole question of the recording of speeches that are made in this House.
Det var helt klart, at hr. Kuijpers ikke havde fået taletid til at holde en tale om Zaragoza under en debat om Etiopien.
PRESIDENT. — We shall consider that after we have had the decision from the committee.
Prout (ED). - (EN) Hr. formand, jeg ville ikke kom me tilbage til denne sag, men i lyset af, hvad hr, Ford sagde, føler jeg, at det er nødvendigt.
VON DER VRING (S). — (DE) Mr President, I should like to make it very clear that no German Member can accept any word spoken in the House being struck from the record by anybody whatsoever.
Faktum er, at De allerede i henhold til artikel 82 har beføjelse til at slette indlæg under visse omstændigheder.
PRESIDENT. — Mr von der Vring, may I remind you that that is exactly the answer that I gave last night.
Jeg mener derfor ikke, at hr. von der Vrings bemærkninger var korrekte.
I believe therefore that my ruling was correct as I understood the situation.
Formanden. — Hr. Prout, vedrørende Deres første bemærkning om, hvorvidt protokollen er korrekt el ler ej, skal vi gerne sammenholde det med, hvad hr. Seefeld sagde, og rette det om nødvendigt.
SUAREZ GONZALEZ (ED). — (ES) Mr President, I can think of nothing worse than for that which happened yesterday to become now a question of Members' rights.
Hvad angår Deres anden bemærkning om henvisning til Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet, er Deres anmodning imødekommet.
What happened yesterday in the Chamber is extremely serious and presents us with a dual and unusual paradox.
Jeg mener, det er den måde, det skal behandles på, så at man i Udvalget kan overveje den ne episode og kommende episoder af lignende art og
I would ask you, Mr President, to consider the situation as a whole and not to investigate whether a Member does or does not have specific rights.
Hvad hr. Fords bemærkninger angår, håber jeg me get, at De vil overveje muligheden af at slette ved kommende indlæg i lyset af enhver afgørelse fra Ud valget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet, der støtter min fortolkning af denne artikel.
Yesterday the European Parliament debated matters relating to human rights all morning and we discussed human rights in Ethiopia, Afghanistan, Haiti, everywhere but
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Arndt (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, det var egentlig ikke min hensigt at bede om ordet, men hr. Suárez González angreb mig personlig.
(Applause) mittee on human rights.
Jeg kan være helt enig i det, der blev sagt om indholdet, men hvis det passer, som Deres gruppeformand siger, at vi skal holde os til forretningsordenen, så må De også gøre det og burde derfor ikke angribe mig.
And in this context, the protests made by the chairman of the Socialist Group should appear in the Minutes, because it was the Socialist Group which objected to this subject being brought forward.
Det drejer sig om noget yderst alvorligt, en dobbelt og skamløs urimelighed. Jeg anmoder formanden om at betragte situationen i sin helhed og ikke analysere, hvorvidt et parlaments medlem har eller ikke har bestemte rettigheder.
I wish to raise a point of order which has to be seen against the background of what happened yesterday: this is not the first time that Mr Garaikoetxea has used a trick in this House.
1 går forhandlede Europa-Parlamentet hele formiddagen spørgsmål vedrørende menneskerettighederne, og vi fik alle lejlighed til at tale om menneskerettighederne i Etiopien, Afghanistan, Haiti, hvor som helst, blot ikke i Europa. Vi kunne således ikke i går komme til at tale om retten til livet for ofrene for terrorismen i Zaragoza...
I wish to raise a question for examination by the Committee on the Rules of Procedure: in the Report of Proceedings known as the arc en ciel, the comments made in a recent sitting by Mr Garaikoetxea in the context of the debate on the Kuijper's report — which we all support — appear in Basque, a language which I was happy to see used here for it is the oldest language of Europe and represents a special Spanish contribution to European culture.
Derfor frabeder jeg mig Deres angreb, thi fra Deres gruppe sidder der også en i Underudvalget om Menneskerettigheder, der tilsluttede sig det.
As a result, Mr President, we find ourselves in a situation where after a resolution had been tabled on terrorism by all political groups who play a major role in Spain, that is to say, all the democratic groups in this Assembly, the only words which appear on the record on the Basque problem are those expressed by a group which plays a totally marginal role in Spain.
Vær rar at holde op med at yppe kiv med andre grupper, især da når De uberettiget angriber de andre grupper.
Spanish public opinion will not understand this and despite all the efforts made to enhance the prestige of the European Parliament, an incident such as this will be enough in Spain to undo the work of years.
Det, hr. Suárez González sagde, var ligeledes en krænkelse af forretningsordenen.
PRESIDENT. — Mr Suarez Gonzalez, what you have said will be recorded in the Minutes which we will consider, of course, at the next session.
Jeg tager ordet til forretningsordenen, i tilknytning til det, der skete i går : det er ikke første gang, at hr. Garaikoetxea anvender kneb.
But these remarks were transmitted to us via an inter pretation which was based on a text in Spanish.
Jeg vil gøre opmærksom på et spørgsmål, der bør undersøges af Udvalget for For retningsordenen : i det daglige forhandlingsreferat, kendt som Regnbuen, står hr. Garaikoetxeas indlæg under en nylig mødeperiode under forhandlingen om Kuijpers-betænkningen — som vi alle støttede — på baskisk, og jeg selv priste brugen af dette sprog som det ældste europæiske sprog og som et spansk bidrag til den europæiske kultur.
This clearly raises a difficult point of procedure: firstly, I do not know if it is right that an official Parliament document should contain comments made in alan guage other than the official languages of the Com munity; nor do I know if it is right that the interpreters should be translating hot what is being said by the speaker in Basque — a language which the speaker had to learn because his mother tongue is Spanish — but a text in a different language, namely Spanish, which Mr Garaikoetxea had passed on to the interpreters. This is what happened as can be easily checked by comparing the tape recordings with the Report of Pro ceedings.
Hr. formand, når børns liv bliver knust af terrorismens vanvid, kan den offentlige spanske mening ikke forstå, at Europa-Parlamentet ikke har tid til at be skæftige sig med dette emne.
I declare this matter closed, otherwise we will find ourselves in difficulty with a very long agenda this morning.
Dette vil den offentlige spanske mening ikke kunne forstå, og til trods for alle de førte kampagner for at give Europa-Parlamentet anseelse, skal man vide, at i Spanien er en handlemåde som den omtalte tilstrækkelig til at nedbryde virkningerne af vores årelange arbejde.
Mr President, I should like this aspect of procedure, which is by no means unimportant, also to be treated in accordance with the wise decision which you have just announced.
Nævnte indlæg nåede imidlertid frem til os gennem en oversættelse fra en spansk tekst.
ARNDT (S). — (DE) Mr President, I had not intended to speak, but Mr Suarez Gonzales attacked me personally.
Der er således tale om en besynderlig fremgangsmåde; jeg ved for det første ikke, om det er en korrekt fremgangsmåde, at der i et af Parlamentets officiemme dokumenter findes et indlæg, der er holdt på et sprog, som ikke er et af FæUesskabets officielle sprog; jeg ved heller ikke, om det er korrekt, at tolkene oversætter, ikke hvad taleren siger på baskisk — et tillært baskisk, for hans modersmål er kastilliansk — men en tekst på et andet sprog, nemlig spansk, som hr. Garaikoetxea havde udleveret til tolkene.
If what the chairman of your group said earlier is correct, namely that something should be removed from the record, then the remarks you have just made should also be struck from the record because you were not making a point of order.
Under alle omstændigheder var dette, hvad der skete, og det kan let efterprøves ved at sammenligne båndoptagelsen med referatet.
PRESIDENT. — I think you have all confirmed the wisdom of the House in determining that this matter shall be looked at by the Committee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities.
Formanden. — Hr. Suárez González, det, De har sagt, vil blive nævnt i protokollen, som vi jo skal godkende i næste mødeperiode.
Mr Newton Dunn, I hope you have a different point of order.
Jeg erklærer denne sag for uddebatteret; ellers kom mer vi i vanskeligheder med en meget lang dagsorden i formiddag.
When we were selecting items for the agenda, we adhered to the recommendations from the sub-com-
Formanden. — Jeg tror, De aUe har bekræftet forsam­lingens visdom, når den har vedtaget, at Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmer­nes Immunitet skal se på denne sag.
The latter committee was not asked for an opinion and it would be a great pity if it were not to have an opportunity to deal once again in detail with the matters relating to customs union, which are also relevant to the internal market.
Newton Dunn (ED). — (EN) Ja, hr. formand, det er en helt anden bemærkning tU forretningsordenen, til artikel 73 — vedtagelse af forslaget til dagorden.
PRESIDENT. — Mr Newton Dunn, the House decided to withdraw the report from the Committee on Agriculture, Fisheries and Food.
Jeg håber, vi kan undgå dette i fremtiden.
That is what caused the difficulties at that time.
Det har heller ingen hast, for som det fremgår af underpunkt nr. to på dagsordenen, er den henstilling', der her foreligger til vedtagelse, allerede færdigbe­handlet den 13. juni 1985.
Nor is there any need for haste, because as the second subsection of this item shows, the recommendation which is being presented for acceptance was adopted as long ago as 13 June 1985.
Jeg ville altså være tak­nemlig, hvis De viUe beslutte at tilbagevise det til Udvalgene — dvs. både REX­Udvalget og Udvalget om Økonomi, Valutaspørgsmål og Industripolitik.
I would therefore be grateful if you would decide to refer this matter back to committee, i.e. not only the Committee on External Economic Affairs but also the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and Industrial Policy.
MaUet (PPE), formand for Udvalget om Eksterne Økonomiske Forbindelser. — (FR) Hr. formand, hvad angår forslaget fra Kommissionen til Rådet vedrøren­de tre afgørelser, der udelukkende er tekniske afgørel­ser på toldområdet, er det ikke rigtigt, at vi ikke er blevet hørt, men vort Udvalg mente, at det kunne afgive sin udtalelse efter proceduren uden betænk­ning.
MALLET (PPE), Chairman of the Committee on External Economic Relations. — (FR) Mr President, concerning the proposal from the Commission to the Council for three decisions, which are purely technical customs matters, this was in fact referred to us, but our committee felt it was able to give its opinion in accordance with the procedure without report.
Lalor (RDE). ­ (EN) På side 16 i den engelske pro­tokol nævnes det, at der var en forhandling om 6 for­slag til beslutning om topmødet i Washington.
LALOR (RDE). — On page 16 of the English Minutes it is mentioned that there was a debate on 6 motions for resolutions on the Washington Summit.
For­slaget fra RDE­gruppen er med i listen.
The motion by the RDE Group is included in that list.
Jeg meddelte i går formiddags formanden, at forslaget var taget til­bage, men alligevel er det med i protokoUen.
I notified the Chair yesterday morning that that motion had been withdrawn and yet it is in the Minutes.
Det var taget tilbage, og det blev ikke drøftet.
It was withdrawn and there was no debate on it.
Det skuUe ikke have været taget med.
It should not have been included.
Jeg kan altså i dag kun bekræfte REX­Udvalgets stil­ling, men hvis forsamlingen bestemmer noget andet, tilkommer det naturligvis den at skære igennem.
Consequently, I can only confirm the position of the REX Committee but of course, if the Assembly takes a different view, it will be for it to decide.
C2­215/87) vedrørende priserne for cle­mentiner og satsumas (Forslag til lovgivningsmæssig beslutning i betænkning (dok.
C 2-215/87) concerning the price applicable to clémentines and satsumas
C2­153/87) til 3 afgørelser om godken­delse af:
C 2-153/87) for three decisions accepting on behalf of the Community:
Betænkning uden forhandling (dok. A2­216/87) af Buttafuoco for Transportudvalget om fjernelse af bu­reaukratiske hindringer for samfærdselen på grund af forskellige bestemmelser vedrørende transport af re­servebeholdere med indhold af brændstof: vedtaget
• Annex B2 to the International Convention on the simplification and harmonization of customs procedure (COM(87) 176 final —6283/87)
— Rådets henstilling om toldsamarbejde af 13. juni 1985 om midlertidig godkendelse af produktions­materiale og radio­ og tv­reportager (KOM(87) 287 endel. ­ 7570/87)
• the Recommendation of the Customs Cooperation Council of 13 June 1985 on the temporary admission of radio and television production and broadcasting equipment (COM(87) 287 final — 7570/87)
— bilag E 4 af Den Internationale Konvention om Forenkling og Harmonisering af Toldordningerne (KOMÍ87) 310 endel.)
• Annex E4 to the International Convention on the simplification and harmonization of customs procedures (COM(87) 310 final)
A2­207/87) af De Pasquale for Ud­valget om Landbrug, Fiskeri og Ernæring om proble­mer og perspektiver vedrørende Fællesskabets has­selnødavl og nøddeavl
A 2-207/87) by Mr De Pasquale, on behalf of the Committee on Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, on the problems of and prospects for growing hazel-nuts and other nuts in the Community
(') Dagsordenen — Udvalgenes sammensætning — Frist for at stille ændringsforslag — Bevillingsoverførsler — Skriftlige er­klæringer i artikel 65­registret: se protokollen.
Agenda-Membership of committees — Deadline for tabling amendments — Petitions — Transfers of appropriations — Written declarations (Rule 65): See Minutes.
(') For andre afstemninger efter proceduren uden betænkning: se protokollen.
For other votes under the procedure without report: See Minutes.
Stemmeforklaring
No 2-359/275
Den rejser et sær deles væsentligt problem: På den ene side forsøger Fællesskabet at finde alternativer til erstatning af overskudsproduktionen, og på grund af et selvskabt net af forpligtelser og præferenceaftaler med tredje lande.
On the one hand the Com munity is trying to find alternatives to the surplus products and on the other these efforts are being undermined and torpedoed by the gamut of commit ments and preferential arrangements which the Com munity has established with third countries.
Dette tillægsprogram skyldes selvfølgelig Tjernobyl-ulykkens følger, og det er et af aspekterne af de foranstaltninger, der er behov for som led i overvejelserne vedrørende atomenergien og i særdeleshed dennes konsekvenser for de af atomkraftens udvikling berørte dele af befolkningen.
The reason for this supplement is of course the post-Chernobyl situation and it is just one of the mea sures needed in the context of the consideration of nuclear energy and, in particular, its inplications for local populations concerned by the development of nuclear.
Disse afgrøder var tænkt som alternativer til vinavlerne og olivenavlerne.
These crops have been proposed as alternatives for grape and olive growers.
Udvalget foreslår at godkende forslaget og at acceptere beløbet på 10 mio ECU, selv om det forekommer os at være et relativt beskedent beløb, som burde have været større. Vi mener imidlertid ikke, at ind satsen på strålingsbeskyttelsesområdet begrænses af denne bevilling, men denne aktion tillader fortsættelse af forskningsarbejdet og sikrer dermed det kom mende femårsprogram på dette område, som skal vedtages i 1990.
Our committee proposes approval of the proposal and acceptance of the 10 m figure, even though we con sider it a rather small amount which might have been larger.
Men samtidig sker der ingen anvendelse af princippet om fæUesskabspræference på dette område, og der bevilges ingen støttemidler til omstruktureringer.
At the same time, however, Community preference is being disregarded in this crop sector and there are no restructural funding measures.
Endelig kan man spørge, af hvilken grund producenterne skulle lade sig overtale til at gå over til andre afgrøder, når de ikke har nogen garanti for, at de vil få mere held med de nye afgrøder end med de gamle. For vort vedkommende er der imidlertid også et større problem.
One wonders how farmers can be persuaded to move into alternative crops when they have no assurance that the new products will enjoy any better luck than the old.
Disse produkter trives hovedsagelig i Fællesskabets sydlige regioner, de såkaldte mindre rige.
The difficulties we face in connection with the food chain show how important is this type of research.