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kan godt være, at Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet har gode hensigter med forslaget om at gøre det muligt; men jeg vil gerne udtrykke min modstand mod ideen om, at det er sandsynligt, at Parlamentet ved en betænkning om noget emne med 90 til 100 ændringsforslag ville forkaste eller vedtage dem enstemmigt eller med flertal.
there should be the intention of communicating it at some point or that it is liable to be communicated at some point, then there is not a business that does not possess a databank and that will not have, at some time, to pass it on to someone else!
Det er at forlange for meget. I dette tilfælde, som sagt, får jeg at vide, at ændringsforslag nr. 1 — 95 ville tages en bloc i Parlamentet under afstemningen.
Therefore, defining a databank in that way means that the Member States are going to have to set up administrations aware from the outset that they will not be able to do the job.
Blak (S). — Hr. formand, fri bevægelighed for persondata er en pudsig afart af det indre marked.
A further criticism of the Greens is that the draft directives lay down only individual rights for those affected.
Derfor har et flertal af EF-landene, bl.a. Danmark, lavet regler for arbejde med private og offentlige registre.
Collective rights in the form of comprehensive data protection for employees ought also, in fact, to be covered by the directive.
Det har været vigtigt for lovgivningen at ramme nogle regler, som giver en høj grad af sikkerhed samtidig med, at de registrerende virksomheder accepterer og efterlever disse regler. Der skal jo ikke laves mere bureaukrati end højst nødvendigt.
This includes in particular greater protection against dismissal for the monitoring bodies as well as codetermination in representing company interests where new techniques are being introduced and where data relating to employees is being processed as well as in regard to its organization.
Lad mig opsummere, at jeg er bekymret over, at man ikke har været tilstrækkelig opmærksom på lovgivningen om velgørende organisationer i Irland og Storbritannien, og at vore traditioner er lidt anderledes i forhold til fastlandet; måske var der brug for lidt mere omhu og lidt mere overvejelse.
BREYER (V). — (DE) Mr President, we also welcome the directive. In contrast with what applies in German legislation on data protection, the Committee on Energy, Research and Technology rejects the blocking of data as being a nonsense.
De ændringsforslag, der kunne afhjælpe det, bør gives megen opmærksomhed under afstemningen.
Data which cannot be proved to be correct or incorrect should simply not be stored.
Jeg håber oprigtigt, at den nye forretningsorden ikke vil føre til en situation, hvor vi forventes at stemme for eller mod alle 95 ændringsforslag på én gang.
Calling up data on-line ought not generally to be possible but should be subject to the same restrictions as the transmission of personal data to third parties.
Nu har Kommissionen så foreslået et direktiv om fælles regler for beskyttelse af den personlige integritet.
BANGEMANN, Vice-President of the Commission. — (DE) Mr President, I should like to begin with a reference to Mr Bontempi before, as custom requires, thanking the rapporteur, as is quite proper.
Det skyldes, at EF-landenes regler er helt for skellige, og især at fem af landene ikke har nogen regler.
Luckily for him, as that may be wrongly construed in political terms, Mr Vernier also supported us.
Hvis der ikke længere er nogen grænser, er det svært for det enkelte land at beskytte sine borgere.
The debate has brought to light very different views on this issue.
Grundsynspunktet er som i den danske registerlov: sikkerhed, hemmelighed, krav om slet telse efter brug, ret omfattende krav i forbindelse med samkøring.
Those affected should have the right to forbid on-line call-up or the transmission of data relating to them to third parties, unless this is specifically required by provisions of law.
Disse ting kan jeg kun bifalde, efter at vi har fået dem strammet ganske godt op i udvalget, for man skal huske, at vi fra Danmark faktisk giver slip på en ganske velfungerende og meget restriktiv lovgivning med vedtagelsen af dette forslag.
We consider it a particularly positive measure that the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights is going to accord the Community-wide working group on data protection farreaching powers — not just the advisory committee, as envisaged in the Commission draft — and that this group will include representatives of trade unions, employers' associations and civil rights' groups.
En vigtig detalje, som vi har kunnet se vigtigheden af i det gamle Østtyskland, er retten til at se sine egne data.
What have we tried to do ? Let me be quite clear : we have not tried to reduce the existing provisions to a common denominator.
Det skal være enkelt, billigt og hurtigt for enhver borger at få at vide, hvad offentlige og private registre har på en.
That is not in any case possible, I have to say to Mr Herman, because some Member States do not have any rules on data protection.
Det skal blive rettet straks, hvis man finder ud af og meddeler, at der står noget forkert, ulovligt eller forældet.
If there are no rules on data protection, there are no practical problems either.
Samkøringen af registre må ikke foregå, hvis der ikke er en fornuftig grund til det. Ellers skal det være forbudt, men jeg vil understrege, at et meget fornuftigt for mål er samkøring til statistik og forskning, og her vil jeg anbefale betænkningens ændringsforslag nr. 60.
We regret, however, that two amendments from the Committee on Energy, Research and Technology were not adopted, calling in particular for the directive on data protection via telecommunications and ISDN to cover also private providers of telecommunications services — the providers of multiple services — and for all transaction data, which are not relevant to establishing charges, to have to be rendered anonymous immediately a call is completed.
Ephremidis (CG). — (GR) Hr. formand, min første kommentar er til Kommissionen, som nu kommer med en bagklog holdning i et spørgsmål af så stor betydning.
We are faced, however, with the twofold problem that a whole range of new data-gathering systems is being introduced into the Community.
Elektronisk databehandling er trængt ind overalt i det sociale og videnskabelige liv og har været det længe.
In Schengen, for instance, such agreement was reached on the exchange of important information between police forces.
Og beskyttelsen af informationer af personlig karakter er et emne af største relevans.
It will be agreed in connection with the administration of taxation systems where it is necessary to ascertain or prevent fraud in relation to the new accounting system for value-added tax.
Kommissionen burde havde forudset den frem march, edb har haft, og i tide fremlagt et forslag til direktiv for at styre denne.
It is proposed that social insurance systems should be linked, and so it goes on.
Men selv nu, hvor den kommer med sine bagkloge forslag, er vi radikalt uenige i direktivets indhold.
We Greens are, however, calling in an amendment of our own for simpler rules on the obligation to provide notification on stored data by means of regular data statements, free of charge, providing information on the data stored at the location in question as well as changes and corrections to it.
Det er langt bagefter den franske og tyske lovgivning og også bagefter Europarådets konvention nr. 108/81, som omhandler dette emne.
We are further calling, in relation to liability, for a shift in the burden of proof where damage has been suffered and there is a dispute as to whether or not the data-processing agency is responsible. sponsible.
Kommissionens forslag har mange, farlige tomrum.
In the public sector, therefore, there will be many new agreements in the coming years.
For det fjerde sikre arbejdstagernes deltagelse i kontrollen med persondatas frie bevægelighed.
In the private sector, the fact that some Member States have no data protection is a particular complication.
For det femte sikre en kontrol med oplysningernes kilde. Og ende lig for det sjette fremme forskningsprogrammer til beskyttelse af elektroniske data sideløbende med den teknologiske forskning.
What is to be done if a private company sets up in a country where such data protection does not exist and then collects there data relating to citizens of other Community countries and uses it ?In that country, there will be no protection against the use of personal data of that type.
Så er der nogle private postkassefirmaer, som har brugt velgørende organisationer som afsendere for en masse henvendelser om, at direktivet vil forhindre udleveringen af adresser til direct mail i forbindelse med indsamlinger og lignende.
The ISDN directive ought to contain provisions enabling recipients of calls to apply the appropriate technical measures to stop telephone conversations
Dette vil jeg gerne afvise, og hermed anbefaler jeg betænkningen med Retsudvalgets ændringer.
But the mayor's office cannot pass on those addresses to a private company which then uses them, say, to send out vast quantities of publicity material.
Herman (PPE). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, i det store og hele må man beundre den indsats, der er gjort af ordføreren og Retsudvalget, som har foretaget omfattende ændringer i det forslag, vi fik forelagt.
I am in favour of getting together with the rapporteur — and we shall have then to discuss that with the Council — to formulate clearcut exceptions: that we state therefore when and in what circumstances a party or a welfare organization is able to do a particular thing. We should not except them from the directive overall.
Vi Grønne kræver imidlertid i et af os stillet ændringsforslag en enkel løsning af pligten til at give oplysning om registrerede data i form af regelmæssig gratis udsendelse af udskrifter, der viser de af den pågældende instans registrerede oplysninger samt ændringer og rettelser i disse.
That also applies, let me say to the representative of the Greens here, to such noble institutions as the trade unions, since data protection, meaning protection of privacy, applies to all.
Endvidere kræver vi omvendt bevisbyrde i skadestilfælde, dersom der i forbindelse dermed er uenighed om, hvorvidt den, der har foretaget databehandlingen, er ansvarlig eller ej.
In the same way as I can, in principle, insist on data protection in relation to a church or party, I can do so in relation to a trade union. No organization, however lofty its purpose, can be exempted from having to guarantee the rights of the individual.
ISDN-direktivet burde indeholde regler om, at kaldte personer ved egnede tekniske foranstaltninger kan forhindre medhør og optagelse af telefonsamtaler.
For that reason, we have drawn up what I concede is an ambitious draft, which has, by the way, met with the undivided approval of those responsible for data protection in all the countries of the Community.
I USA findes der telefonapparater, der er således indrettet, at medhør og optagelse tilkendegives ved et signal og kan bringes til ophør ved tryk på en knap.
I am also aware, however, that we have to look in addition at practical needs. But we must realize that these are exceptions which have to be clearly laid down.
Men selv om juristerne, der lægger stor vægt på de juridiske teksters kohærens — det er ingen bebrejdelse, har gjort et stort stykke arbejde, har de af og til været mindre interesserede i mulighederne for praktisk gennemførelse af det, de har besluttet. Jeg vil give Dem et enkelt eksempel herpå, som foranledigede Økonomiudvalget til at stille et ændringsforslag.
We are therefore quite prepared to use partial exemptions, clearly and practically formulated, to guarantee the rights of the individual, but also — to the extent permissible — to guarantee the free exchange of data.
Hvis De, kære kolleger, ønsker, at loven aldrig bliver gennemført, så vedtag forslaget i den foreliggende form.
It is quite obvious that a whole range of them improve our proposal, making it better balanced, more uniform and more flexible.
Hvorfor? Fordi, hr. Bangemann, det antal personer, som omfattes deraf, allerede løber op i millioner.
Those we can accept.
At definere et register på denne måde tvinger samtlige medlemsstater til at oprette et tilsyn, hvorom man på forhånd ved, at det ikke vil kunne klare opgaven.
We did not want to aim too low and risk being compelled to go further and perhaps being unable to reach a decision.
Generelt burde der indrettes specielle datasamlingsspærringer for at undgå »dataaffald«.
We have therefore to abide by the principles and be selective, flexible and effective in establishing the procedure.
Forud for påbegyndelsen af nye dataindsamlingsopgaver burde der foretages en dataøkonomiundersøgelse og udvikles varianter med henblik på at finde de mindst indgribende løsninger.
I conclude this from the many comments and letters that we, like the rapporteur, have received. That being so, I should like to comment on some amend ments.
Ved sådanne metoder kunne det nuværende dataindsamlingsvanvid hos myndigheder og virksomheder underkastes en gennemskuelig legitimationsprocedure.
I cannot, of course, cover all 156 ; to do so would involve exceeding by a considerable margin the time allotted to the Commission.
Vi Grønne kritiserer endvidere, at direktivforslagene kun fastsætter individuelle rettigheder for de berørte.
The basic concept of introducing data processing as a basis for regulation has to be approved.
Kollektive rettigheder som led i en omfattende arbejdstagerdatabeskyttelse burde også omfattes af direktivet.
We are therefore able — again with some changes — to accept Amendments Nos 7, 15, 18 and 26, but that must then be carried through the whole text.
Hertil hører i særdeleshed forbedret opsigelsesbeskyttelse for kontrolinstanserne, medbestemmelse for virksomhedens interesserepræsentation ved indførelse af ny teknik og ved behandling af personaleoplysninger og disses udformning.
Mr Herman may be right when he says that lawyers are interested only in the structure and not in practicalities, but there are good reasons for keeping to a structure. While we approve therefore of Amendments Nos 7, 15, 18 and 26, Amendments Nos 2, 3, 14 and a few others are unacceptable.
Breyer (V). — (DE) Hr. formand, også vi er glade for direktivet.
Defining the concept of transmission to third parties is useful and to be welcomed but cannot be allowed to result in preferential treatment for groups of companies and combines.
Til forskel fra tysk registerlovgivning afviser Energi, Forsknings- og Teknologiudvalget spærring af oplysninger som værende et meningsløst redskab.
We are therefore able to accept, subject to reservations regarding the wording, Amendments Nos 117 and 134 but not Amendment No 20.
Oplysninger, hvis rigtighed eller urigtighed ikke kan bevises, bør ret og slet ikke opbevares.
Moving on to the main principles of processing and transmission.
On //w-indhentning af oplysninger bør generelt ikke være tilladt, men være underkastet de samme restriktioner som videregivelse af personlige oplysninger til tredjepart.
It is quite possible to specify in detail the principles contained in the Council of Europe Convention without making a formal distinction between the public and the private sectors. We are therefore able to
De pågældende skal have ret til at forbyde on //«e-indhentning af oplysninger eller videregivelse deraf til tredjepart, hvis loven ikke udtrykkeligt kræver det.
As far as the scope goes, the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights supports the application of the principle of data protection to data processed manually.
Vi finder det særligt positivt, at Udvalget
The privacy of letters must not be violated, but in our view that has also to be guaranteed in relation to forms of electronic data transmission.
Bangemann, næstformand i Kommissionen. — (DE) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne begynde med en henvisning til hr. Bontempi, inden jeg, som traditionen vil det, takker ordføreren, hvilket jo også er berettiget.
There is no reason why the privacy of letters must be protected in relation to written communications but diminished in relation, for example, to communications transmitted in other ways.
Jeg kunne have tilsluttet mig hver eneste sætning, som hr. Bontempi sagde.
That was my position — it has taken a little too long, but still not long enough given the significance of the problem.
Til alt held for ham, fordi det måske kunne fremkalde falske politiske associationer, støttede hr. Vernier os også.
In relation to the Member States, particularly those which are increasingly critical of it, the Com munity must show itself to be the body which produces better policies.
Forhandlingen viste, at der foreligger vidt forskellige holdninger i denne sag.
If we do better and can offer citizens bettet solutions, we can promote the Community with a clear conscience, and that is what the Commission is seeking to do.
Hvad er det, vi har prøvet på?
accept Amendments Nos 4, 27, 28 and 29.
Jeg siger helt klart: Vi ønskede ikke at finde en fællesnævner for de eksisterende forskrifter.
Simplification of this kind cannot, however, be permitted to blur the distinguishing features of the two sectors, and the general principles may not be watered down, and certainly not for the benefit of economic exploitation.
Det kan, det må jeg sige til hr. Herman, ikke lade sig gøre alene af den grund, at nogle medlemsstater overhovedet ikke har nogen retslige bestemmelser om beskyttelse af personoplysninger.
It would really be odd if we made the public authorities subject to more stringent requirements than private organizations, as the protection of the rights of the individual vis-à-vis private bodies cannot be treated more casually than vis-à-vis public authorities.
Når man overhovedet ikke har nogen regi sterlovgivning, er der heller ingen praktiske proble mer.
I am not in any way casting doubt on the legitimacy of these activities, but they must be able to be supervised by the person concerned.
Jeg forstår godt, at ordføreren gerne vil formulere nogle undtagelser forskellige steder.
VERNIER (RDE). — (FR) Mr President, Mr Ban gemann has just analysed some of the amendments.
Det kan vi godt indse.
There were 158 in all.
Men var man ikke udgået fra klare princip per, havde vi til sidst stået med et »kludetæppe« og i princippet slet ikke opnået noget.
Would it be possible for the Commission position on all the amendments to be communicated in writing to Members to whom this would be of interest ?
Derfor har vi lavet et, jeg skal villigt indrømme, ærgerrigt forslag,, som for øvrigt opnåede alle medlemsstaternes registerbeskyttelsesmyndigheders udelte tilslutning.
Mr Hoon's report in fact increases the possibilities open to the individual to exercise supervision, particularly where complicated data-processing procedures are involved.
De erkendte, at det er den mest moderne form for registerbeskyttelsesret, som man kan lave på indeværende tidspunkt.
This new law protects against domination by experts, and we are therefore delighted to accept the last part of Amendment No 46 as well as Amendment No 48.
Men jeg ved også, at man må gå ind på de praktiske nødvendigheder.
That is a clear improvement.
Vi står imidlertid over for det tosidede problem, at der inden for Fællesskabet oprettes en lang række nye indbyrdes forbundne edb-systemer.
BANGEMANN, Member of the Commission. — (FR) Yes indeed, Mr President.
I Schengen aftaltes noget sådant eksempelvis for udveksling af vigtige oplysninger mellem politimyndighederne.
I have, of course, a list detailing our position on all the amendments.
Der er også planer om at indbyrdes forbindelse af socialsikringssystemerne og andet af samme art.
The list cannot be circulated to all, but copies can be made.
Af denne grund har vi selvfølgelig beskæftiget os meget indgående med de efterhånden 156 ændringsforslag.
PRESIDENT. — The debate is closed.
Det er ganske klart, at en lang række af disse forbedrer forslaget, gør det mere afbalanceret, ensartet og fleksibelt. Derfor kan vi acceptere dem.
The vote will take place at 5 p.m. on Wednesday.
Vi har for det første bevidst afstukket vide grænser, som man altid kan gå under.
PRESIDENT. — The next item is the recommendation (Doc.
Vi ville ikke afstikke for snævre grænser med risiko for at blive presset videre frem på bekostning af konsekvensen.
A3-41/92) for a second reading, drawn up on behalf of the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights on the common position established by the Council with a view to the adoption of a directive amending the directive on the own funds of credit institutions.
Vi skal altså holde fast ved principperne og ved fastsættelsen af procedurerne være selektive, fleksible og effektive.
Moving on now to the rules of procedure and methods.
Denne konklusion drager jeg også af de mange kommentarer og breve, som vi i lighed med ordføreren har modtaget.
The Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights has made an extremely interesting contribution here.
I lyset heraf vil jeg nu tage stilling til nogle af ændringsforslagene. Jeg kan selvfølgelig ikke komme ind på alle 156 ændringsforslag, idet jeg da langt ville overskride den tid, der er tiltænkt Kommissionen.
The principle of transparency is strengthened.
Inden for den offentlige sektor vil der altså med sikkerhed i de kommende år blive aftalt meget nyt.
The inclusion of self-monitoring allows, in addition, for greater flexibility.
Inden for den private sektor er det forhold, at nogle medlemsstater overhovedet ikke har nogen beskyttelse af personrelaterede oplysninger, yderst kompliceret.
On the other hand, the introduction of prior checks may cause problems later. For that reason, we are able to accept Amendments Nos 5, 40, 72, 37 and Amendment No 39 in part.
Hvad skal man gøre, hvis en privat virksomhed nedsætter sig i et land, hvor beskyttelse af personoplysninger ikke findes for dér at samle og benytte oplysninger om borgere fra andre medlems stater?
It would, however, be a step backwards, were we to restrict indirect access to the security data by means of independent monitoring authorities, and we thetefore reject Amendment No 56.
I dette land findes der jo ingen beskyttelse mod udnyttelse af personlige oplysninger.
Taking greater account of flexibility in the methods of application is the right thing to do, and we therefore intend accepting Amendment No 86.
Det må jeg også sige til hr. Herman: Selvfølgelig hører først og fremmest adressen til de simpleste oplysninger, som en privatperson har krav på at få beskyttet, forudsat at der ikke findes undtagelser, som gennemhuller beskyttelsen.
Turning to transfer to third countries: just as the objective of the directive is to dismantle internal boundaries for the free movement of personal data, each Member State must accept its responsibility with regard to the transfer of data.
Selvfølgelig skal en offentlig tjeneste som f.eks. et kommunekontor vide, hvor de borgere bor, som det ønsker at henvende sig til, hvorfor det også må være i besiddelse af samtlige adresser.
A state cannot simply exempt itself. For that reason, optional prohibition would result in distortion of competition, which is not acceptable, and we cannot therefore accept Amendment No 78.
Men samme kommunekontor må ikke uden videre overlade disse adresser til en privat virksomhed, som bruger adresserne til f.eks. masseudsendelse af reklametryksager af en eller anden art.
It is therefore clear that we can accept Amendment No 82 only if there are changes to the wording.
Men der er et andet problem: Hvordan påbegynder man en sådan debat?
Let me, in conclusion, mention comitology.
Kommissionen havde ganske enkelt kunnet sige: Vi finder et gennemsnitsniveau og laver en liste over en masse undtagelser, så har vi ingen problemer.
An interesting and in many respects innovative suggestion was made here.
Vi undlod bevidst at vælge dette udgangspunkt, fordi vi først ville vise, hvad der
We are full of admiration for the work done but fear that if we proceed thus in this area, we shall encounter still greater resistance in the Council than we probably will anyway, as least from those countries in which there is no data protection.