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Parlamentet har ofte tilkendegivet sin støtte til princippet om en Kanal-tunnel, da en Kanal-tunnel vil give forbrugeren flere valg muligheder, og ved at give forbrugeren flere valgmuligheder vil det resultere i lavere billetpriser for forbrugeren.
MARSHALL (ED), draftsman of an opinion for the Committee on Transport. — Mr President, the debate, as Mr Beumer has quite rightly said, is not about the principle of the Channel tunnel, which has already been accepted on several occasions by this House. The debate is over two very simple principles.
Ved at tilskynde til, at noget afgodstransporten foretages ad jernbane i stedet for ad landevej, vil det forbedre miljøet.
The first is the terms of competition between the channel tunnel, airlines and ferries; the second is the question of raising finance for the tunnel.
Det vil også i højere grad gøre Det europæiske Fællesskab til en realitet for vore borgere.
Here I must disagree very strongly with the rapporteur from the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and Industrial Policy when he says the Commission's proposal is rather premature.
Ved i højere grad at gøre det fælles marked til en realitet, ved at frem skynde trafikken mellem Fællesskabets mere afsidesliggende regioner, vil det hjælpe områderne i Det for-
As the rapporteur should know — in fact as he does know, I suspect — this is a private sector scheme financed on international capital markets by private investors.
Det andet punkt er, at Parlamentet hele tiden har sagt, at der, hvordan det end forholder sig, også må være ligebehandling af luft- og søtransporten og af transporten gennem Kanaltunnelen.
the investors some security, This means that, if we accepted the Commission's view, the exceptions we should like to see removed would be increased, the
Marshall enede Kongerige med høj arbejdsløshed. Det vil selv følgelig være vore traditionelle industrier, der vil nyde gavn af den ordre, der forhåbentlig snart kom mer på bygningen af tunnelen.
Marshall which Parliament scrutinizes our endeavours to create a united and integrated European economy.
anvendelsen af tunnelen være pålagt moms, hvilket ville udgøre en forvridning af konkurrencen til skade for forvalterne af tunnelsen, idet de sø og luftfartsselskaber, der sørger for personbefordringen over Kanalen, for tiden er fritaget fra forpligtelsen til at pålægge deres tjenester moms, lige som de kan fratrække den moms, de har betalt på de indkøbte varer.
It is up to the Community, there fore, to promote and provide incentives for the com pletion of large-scale and imaginative projects of this kind, which have been planned for many years, are vital for the development of the Community's infrastructures and can truly be said to be part of the European dream.
Fællesskabet vil således få meget stor gavn af bygningen af Kanaltunnelen.
This scheme will only attract money from private investors if the pension fund manager can see as good a return from investing in the Channel tunnel as he can see from investing in other long term capital pro jects.
Det, vil skal gøre, er at sikre, at Kanaltunnelen ikke bliver dødfødt på grund af diskai usikkerhed.
It is no use saying that the tunnel will not be ready until 1993, the money to build the tunnel has to be found in 1987.
Det, Kommissionen har forsøgt at gøre — og jeg mener, Kommissionen bør komplimenteres for det tempo, den har arbejdet i — er at forelægge et forslag, der med det samme vil eliminere enhver usikkerhed.
Already this year in the first tranche of fund-raising it was a damned close run thing and it was with very great difficulty indeed that the operators of the tunnel scheme were able to raise the capital that they needed.
Det er elimineringen af den usikkerhed, der er af afgørende betydning for, at forvalterne af tunnelen kan rejse de meget betydelige private midler, der skal investeres i dette yderst vigtige projekt, på de internationale kapitalmarkeder.
If we go on multiplying the uncertainty by voting for this report and voting against the amendments from the Liberal Group, there is a real risk that when the operators of the scheme try to raise more money next year, they will not be able to do so.
Ripa Di Meana, medlem af Kommissionen. — (IT) Hr. formand, Kommissionen vil fremfor alt takke udvalget om økonomi, valutaspørgsmål og industri politik og især dets ordfører, hr. Beumer, for den omhyggelige, velovervejede måde, hvorpå udvalget har behandlet forslaget af 8. januar.
It was with these objectives in mind, and with a view to avoiding and eliminating any distortions of competition which might prejudice the operation of the com mon market, that we drew up the proposal for a direc tive that is being discussed today.
Uanset de meningsforskelle der undertiden kan opstå — og i dette tilfælde er der forskelle — mellem Kom missionen og Parlamentet, glæder det os meget at se, hvor seriøst og grundigt Parlamentet har beskæftiget sig med vores foranstaltning, der sigter mod at skabe et forenet og integreret økonomisk system i Europa.
The aim of the proposal is to allow France and the United Kingdom to derogate from the provisions of the Sixth Directive on VAT by exempting the tolls paid by future users of the Channel tunnel from VAT, while of course preserving the right of the tunnel's operators to deduct tax paid on purchases.
Det nærværende forslag sigter derfor imod en ensartet afgifsmæssig behandling af de forskellige måder at krydse Kanalen på, lige meget om der er tale om transportmidler i egentlig forstand eller om en tunnel.
This House has frequently expressed its support for the principle of a Channel tunnel because a Channel tunnel will increase consumer choice, and by increasing consumer choice it will result in lower fairs to the consumer.
Denne fritagelse for den internationale befordring er naturligvis af midlertidig karakter.
By encouraging some freight traffic to go by rail rather than by road it is going to improve the environment.
Heraf følger at også den internationale transport inden for Fælles skabet vil blive på lagt moms i det indre marked.
By making more of a reality of the common market, by speeding up traffic between the remoter regions of the Com munity, it will help the areas of high unemployment in the United Kingdom.
I mellemtiden er det dog nødvendigt at sørge for, at de, der her og nu investerer uhyre summer i konstruktionen af tunnelen under Kanalen, klart ved, i hvilken situation de står.
Of course, it will be our traditional industries which will benefit from the order which will, hopefully, soon come for the building of the tunnel.
Konstruktionen af tunnelen mellem Storbritannien og kontinentet er et af dette århundredes største værker, som ikke blot vil give de to mere direkte involverede medlemsstater fordele og prestige, men hele Fællesskabet.
If this derogation was not granted — and this is the point we wish to stress — the tolls imposed on users of the tunnel would be subject to VAT, which would create a distortion of competition to the detriment of the tunnel operators, since the shipping companies and airlines that transport passengers across the Channel are currently exempt from the obligation to charge VAT on their services and can deduct the tax paid on purchases.
Men for at kunne gennemføre dette projekt er det nødvendigt, at de selskaber, der forvalter tunnelen, sikres mod enhver konkurrenceforvridning på det af giftsmæssige område mellem det nye middel til krydsning af Kanalen og de nuværende.
So there are very great advantages coming to the Community from the building of the Channel tunnel. What we have to do is to ensure that the Channel tunnel is not stillborn because of fiscal uncertainty.
Følgelig me ner Kommissionen, at afgiftsordningen for tunnelen skal fastlægges straks, og at det ikke er belejligt at vente til tunnelen åbner for at se, om overgangsbestemmelserne om fritagelse for personbefordring til den tid er blevet ophævet.
It is the removal of that uncertainty which is essential to allow the operators of the tunnel to go to the world's capital marketes to raise the very substantial sums of private money which are going to be invested in this most important project.
Det er på baggrund af alle disse mål og for at undgå og eliminere de konkurrenceforvridninger, der ville udgøre en trussel for det fælles markeds virke, at vi har forelagt det forslag til direktiv, vi i dag diskuterer. rer.
RIPA DI MEANA, Member of the Commission. — (IT) Mr President, first of all the Commission thanks the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and Industrial Policy, and particularly its rapporteur, Mr Beumer, for the close and careful consideration given to its proposal of 8 January.
Det er formålet med forslaget at give Frankrig og Det forenede Kongerige tilladelse til at afvige fra bestemmelserne i det sjette momsdirektiv, idet de gebyrer, brugerne af den fremtidige tunnel under Kanalen skal betale, fritages for afgift, lige som tunnelens forvaltere naturligvis får ret til at fratrække moms for de ind købte varer.
As the commission argued in its white paper on the completion of the internal market, which was approved both by Parliament and by the heads of state and government, and as we have foreseen ever since the first Community directives on VAT, it will not be possible to continue to apply the arrangements exempting intra-Community transport in a single com mon market.
Jeg tager til efterretning, at følgende punkt fuldt ud er blevet forstået: de ændringsforslag, hr. Fourçans har stillet for den liberale og demokratiske gruppe til beslutningsforslaget, viser nemlig, at tanken med Kommissionens forslag fuldt ud er blevet forstået.
This market will have a single system of indirect taxation under which all transfrontier deliver ies of goods will be subject to VAT, without prejudice to the right to deduct the tax paid on purchases.
Hvis man ikke tillod denne undtagelse — og det er det, vi gerne vil understrege — ville gebyrerne for
However much the opinions of Commission and Par liament may differ on occasion — as they do in this instance — it is very gratifying to note the care with
Jeg opfordrer derfor Parlamentet til at kom me med en positiv udtalelse, på trods af konklusionerne i den udtømmende, gennemtænkte betænkning fra det ansvarlige udvalg.
It seems the Commission itself does not have faith in its own timetable for completing is internal market — what I would prefer to call its infernal market — and prefers, in typical capitalist knee-jerk fashion, to respond to pressures from the private sector.
Jeg vil benytte lejligheden til at give udtryk for Kom missionens tak til transportudvalget og dets ordfører, hr. Marshall, for de meget relevante bemærkninger, de har fremsat.
I note that this point has been perfectly understood: in fact the amendments tabled by Mr Fourçans on behalf of the Liberal and Democratic Group show that the logic of the Commission's proposal is fully appreciated.
Nawman (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne ind lede mine bemærkninger med at gøre det klart, at ikke alt det, jeg vil sige, repræsenterer hele den socialistiske gruppes position.
NEWMAN (S). — Mr President, I want to preface my remarks by making it clear that not everything I am going to say represents the position of the whole Socialist Group.
Det er dog et synspunkt, der deles af overordentlig mange.
Neverthelesss it is a view shared by very many people.
Endelig går man i mit område, det nordvestlige England, og i mange andre af de fattigere områder i Stor britannien og EFs perifere regioner ikke i almindelig hed ind for Kanaltunnelen, der er faktisk megen modstand.
Finally, in my area, the north-west of England, and in many of the poorer regions of Britain and the peripheral regions of the EEC, there is no consensus in favour of the Channel tunnel, but much opposition in fact.
Kanaltunnelen vil trække investeringer væk fra de ugunstigt stillede områder til den gyldne trekant.
The Channel tunnel will draw investments away from the disadvantaged regions to the Golden Triangle.
Ifølge en reel analyse af situationen og uden inddragelse af de forskellige regeringers fordrejede tal er der mere end fire og en halv million arbejdsløse i Det forenede Kongerige og mere end 20 mio ar bejdsløse i Fællesskabets tolv medlemsstater.
According to a real analysis of the situation not using the various governments' distorted figures, there are over four and half million unemployed in the UK and over 20 million unemployed within the twelve Member States of the Community.
Varige arbejdspladser, flere boliger, en forbedret transport, små og mellemstore projekter, geninvesteringer i for arbejdningsindustrien, et forbedret sundheds- og so cialvæsen — dette bør være de kommende års prioriteringer for jobskabelse i stedet for et overordentlig uøkonomisk projekt som Kanaltunnelen, der uden tvivl også vil blive understøttet af lån fra EIB og EFRU og anden EF-støtte til at tilvejebringe infrastrukturer i Frankrig og Storbritannien ved begge en der af tunnelen. »Nej« til Kanaltunnelen.
Long term jobs, more housing, improved transport, small and mediumsized projects, reinvestment in manufacturing industry, improved personal health and social services — these should be the jobcreating priorities of the next few years rather than a massive, wasteful project such as the Channel tunnel which will no doubt also be propped up by loans from the EIB and ERDF and other EEC grants to provide the infrastructures in France and Britain at either end of the tunnel. 'No' to the channel tunnel.
Patterson (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg er faktisk den sidste taler meget taknemlig, da han meget klart har sagt det, jeg gerne vil sige.
PATTERSON (ED). — Mr President, I am very grateful indeed to the last speaker because he has made very clearly the point that I wish to make.
Jeg vil gerne, at hr. Beumer lytter meget opmærksomt, da mine bemærkninger nøjagtig er en forlængelse af det sidste ind læg.
I want Mr Beumer to listen very carefully because the point I make follows exactly from the last speech.
Dette direktiv er, som det allerede er påpeget i be tænkningen, et ret bizart direktiv, der skal berolige investorerne og de potentielle investorer i Kanal-tunnelen.
This directive, as has been pointed out already in the report, is a rather bizarre directive designed to soothe the minds of investors and potential investors in the Channel tunnel.
Direktivets eneste formål er at fritage Kanaltunnelens passagerer for moms, som det for øjeblik ket er tilfældet med færge- og lufttransport over Ka nalen.
The only purpose of the directive is to exempt the Channel tunnel passengers from VAT as is presently the case with sea ferries and air crossings of the Channel.
Udvalget om økonomi, valutaspørgsmål og industripolitik har ret fornuftigt påpeget, at Kanaltunnelen først vil blive åbnet i 1993, året efter 1992, hvor den berømmelige gennemførelse af det indre marked forventes at være tilendebragt.
The Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and Industrial Policy has quite sensibly pointed out that the Channel tunnel is not due to be opened until 1993, the year after 1992, when the glorious completion of the internal market is supposed to have occured.
Hvis planerne blandt de fanastiske forkæmpere for det fælles marked realiseres, vil direktivet således være forældet, inden der træder i kraft.
So if the plans of the common market fanatics are fulfilled, the directive will be obsolete before it even becomes effective.
Det er med andre ord ganske enkelt mere bureaukrati i forbindelse med det fælles marked, som Europas skatteydere betaler for, gennem moms, den fællesmarkedsafgift, som selv de fattige, de arbejdsløse, de lavtlønnede og pensionisterne skal betale,når de betaler for deres varer og tjenesteydelser.
In other words it is simply more common market bureaucracy paid for by the taxpayers of Europe,
Årsagerne er fremført meget klart af hr. Marshall på transportud valgets vegne.
We have just heard a very fair summing up of the case against the Channel tunnel.
Det forholder sig ikke så dan, at det ikke er nødvendigt med foranstaltninger nu.
We are not debating the case against the Channel tunnel today.
Det er meget sandsynligt, at der ikke vil være brug for dette direktiv i 1993, fordi der i mellemtiden er vedtaget retsregler i Fællesskabet, der regulerer an-
However, the reasons for being against the Commission proposal follow from being against the Channel tunnel and that is the point I wish Mr Beumer and particularly Mr Beumer's group to take on board.
Det ser ud til, at Kommissionen ikke selv nærer tillid til sin egen frist for den fulde gennemførelse af det indre marked — hvilket jeg foretrækker at kalde dens helvedesmarked — og foretrækker på typisk kapitalistmaner pr. refleks at reagere på pres fra den private sektor.
He rightly says — and it is a very good report and a very good summing up of the situation — that the Economic Committee
Patterson sesfrihed for personer og varer, som er et væsentligt mål for det store indre marked.
Patterson and he and his group are not against the Channel tunnel as such and are in favour of equality of competition.
Det andet symbol er europæisk industris tekniske for måen.
My group will vote for the Commission proposal for the reasons I have given, and we shall vote for the Liberal amendments.
Men det er vel ikke det afgørende punkt?
I should like to mention three of them that I think are essential.
Det afgørende punkt er, som hr. Marshall påpegede, at finansieringen af Kanal-tunnelen skal tilvejebringes nu, er tilvejebragt i 1986, og vil nødvendigvis skulle tilvejebringes næste år.
If you believe, as we both do, that it is necessary to have this directive in order to facilitate the construction of the tunnel then you, Mr Beumer, and your group and Mr Klepsch and everybody else who is also in favour of the Channel tunnel should in consequence be in favour of this directive.
En af de juridiske usikkerhedsfaktorer, der er omkring projektet, er spørgsmålet om, hvilken af gift der vil gælde for tunnelafgiften.
I very much hope, there fore, that when it comes to the vote tomorrow you will vote accordingly.
Og det tredje symbol, som sikkert er det vigtigste: Et politisk symbol.
Firstly, a symbol of Community integration.
Storbritanniens ønske om helt og fuldt at acceptere sin europæiske dimension for definitivt og konkret at knytte sig fast til det europæiske fastland.
The Channel Tunnel will allow greater freedom of move ment for goods and persons, which is an essential objective of the single internal market.
Dette symbol er af grundlæggende historisk betydning, og jeg er overbevist om, at det vil nlive stående i den europæiske opbygnings annaler.
The building of the Tunnel will call for innovations in the form of construction techniques that will benefit European industries as a whole.
I betragtning af disse symboler kan vor forhandling, der drejer sig om »skillinger« — undskyld udtrykket — forekomme lidt smålig.
And the third symbol, certainly the most important one, is a political symbol.
Men den har ikke desto mindre grundlæggende betydning, idet tunnelens byging, som det nævntes for lidt siden, kan komme til at afhænge af, om Kommissionens forslag til direktiv vedtages eller ej.
It is the symbol of the resolve of our friends in the United Kingdom to engage fully in the European dimension and to attach themselves unambiguously and concretely to the Con tinent of Europe.
Jeg ved, at der i økonomiudvalget blev skabt en hel del forvirring på grund af det vildspor, hvorvidt dette var gældende for konstruktionsomkostningerne eller ej.
The reasons have been put extremely clearly by my colleague Mr Marshall on behalf of the Transport Committee.
Der verserer en sag for domstolene vedrørende konstruktionsomkostningerne.
It is not the case that action is not needed now.
Det er imidlertid absolut klart, at dette direktiv ikke vedrører konstruktionsomkostningerne, der hører ind under et helt an det system, men kunafgifter og lige konkurrencevilkår.
It is very probable that this directive will not be needed come 1993, because there will have been Com munity legislation in the interim regularizing the posi tion of VAT on transport.
Jeg tror, kommissæren muligvis kan bekræfte det, jeg siger.
But that is not the point, is it?
Dette vedrører kun lige konkurrencevilkår, der er baseret på færge- elle eller flybilletpriser og afgifterne for bilisterne. Lad os derfor ikke forplumre vandet.
The point is, as Mr Marshall pointed out, that the financing of the Channel tunnel has to be achieved now, is being achieved in 1986 and will necessarily have to be achieved next year.
Derfor bør kanalforbindelsen underkastes samme ordning som de øvrige transportformer, det vil sige fritagelse for merværdiafgift, så der kan blive konkurrencelighed. rencelighed.
We know already, and I have a cutting from the Financial Times headed 'Tunnel placing saved by founders' which stated that raising the original 300 m ECU for the Channel tunnel placement was done with extreme difficulty because of the legal uncertainties that surrounded the project.
Men Beumer-betænkningen siger: Ja, der skal være konkurrencelighed, men da tunnelen ikke bliver færdig før i 1993, er der ikke brug for overgangsbestemmelser, idet det store interne marked er en realitet i 1993.
One of the legal uncertainties that surrounded the project is the mater of the tax system which will apply to the tolls.
Det er en god betænkning, men — og jeg beklager at måtte sige dette — jeg mener, hr. Beumer, at vi kom til den forkerte konklusion.
I know that in the Economic Committee a great deal of confusion was created by the red herring as to whether this applied to the construction costs or not.
Vi nåede til den konklusion under en temmelig forvirret afstemning.
There is a legal action in the courts about the con struction costs.
Hertil har jeg to bemærkninger, kære kolleger.
I think the Commis sioner might confirm what I am saying.
Er vi nu helt sikre på, at det store indre marked bliver færdigt i 1992?
This only con cerns equality of competition based on ferry or air fares and the drivers' tolls.
Er vi helt sikre derpå? Jeg ønsker det inderligt, og det tror jeg også, at alle de øvrige tilstedeværende gør.
So let us not try and muddy the waters.
Min gruppe vil stemme for Kommissionens forslag af de årsager, jeg har anført, og vi vil stemme for ændringsforslagene fra den liberale gruppe.
Compared with these symbols therefore, our debate about hard cash — if you will pardon the expression — may seem in rather poor taste.
Jeg håber, at når hr. Beumer og hans gruppe har studeret argumenterne og navnlig har set meget omhyggeligt på indlæg get af min kollega fra Labour, der er imod Kanaltunnelen og derfor imod direktivet, vil han se sig i stand til at ændre indstilling og stemme for direktivet samt ændringsforslagene fra den liberale gruppe.
It remains fundamental, nevertheless, for, as has just been stated, whether the Tunnel is built or not may yet well depend on whether the Commission's directive is accepted or not. It is obvious that if transport through the Tunnel is not subjected to the same conditions of competition as other means of transport, we shall be running the risk, as has also just been said, of seeing private investors withdraw from the project for lack of sufficient profitability.
Så kan vi alle stemme for betænkningen, hr. Beumer.
And that is a risk we cannot afford to run.
For det andet, dersom det store indre marked, således som vi ønsker det, er færdigt, når tunnelen åbnes, så er der ikke brug for nogen overgangsordning, og alle vil stå på lige fod i konkurrencemæssig henseende.
The Channel crossing will therefore have to be made subject to the same arrangements as other forms of transport, that is be zero rated for VAT, so as to ensure equal conditions of competition.
Følgelig er der ikke på indeværende tidspunkt nogen som helst grund til ikke at indrømme transporten gennem kanaltunnelen de samme undtagelsesregler som findes for sø- og lufttransporten.
Now the Beumer report says: yes, we must have equal conditions of competition, but since the Tunnel will not be finished until 1993 there is no reason to apply for the derogation procedure now because the single internal market will be in place by 1993.