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Det krævede alt for omfattende lovændringer.
Otherwise, there is a huge risk that the employees in these crossfrontier companies will be entirely at the mercy of the management.
I denne betænkning har vi forsøgt — og jeg mener, det er lykkedes os — at komme frem til noget, der er praktisk og kan
TURNER (ED). — Mr President, a European com pany is a very useful option for large and small com-
Jeg mener, at det, vi her har foreslået, er praktisk, rimeligt og mådeholdent, og at det kan gennemføres
GARCIA AMIGO (ED). — (ES) Mr President, in connection with the debate held this morning, I would essentially like to answer, in the name of my group, three questions raised by the Commission in its document. ment.
Pearce af Kommissionen, hvis den ønsker det.
However, companies must have confidence in the systems being offered to them.
Jeg mener, at det er et reelt problem, vi her har at gøre med, og på udvalgets vegne opfordrer jeg Kommissionen til at forelægge forslag til lovgivning, der er i overensstemmelse med denne betænknings ånd og forslag.
I think this proposal in the White Paper is extremely important because the Commission has accepted the doctrine of equivalent options set out by the European Parliament in the Fifth Company Law Directive in 1982, for worker par ticipation to take the forms practised in the different Member States.
Jeg vil også hilse den interesse, som erhvervsorganisationerne, både de nationale og de europæiske, har vist dette emne, og navnlig takke repræsentanterne for COPA, som er mødt op i Udvalget om Kvinders Rettigheder for at give udtryk for deres mening om dette emne og derved har ydet et bidrag til Parlamentets arbejde.
The Commission accepted that principle in 1982 when we proposed it in the Fifth Company Law Directive, and they have reinforced it here in their White Paper. I am very pleased indeed about that.
Jeg mener, at det tjener Parlamentet til ære, at det har ønsket på så konkret en måde at give udtryk for sin afstandtagen fra kønsbetingel forskelsbehandling og sin vilje til at give landmandskoner tilsvarende rettigheder, som landmændene selv har.
Thus worker participation means in Germany worker directives on a supervisory board. Worker par ticipation in Italy means collective bargaining.
Det egent lige problem begynder, når denne ligeberettigelse skal gennemføres i de forskellige medlemsstater, idet forskelsbehandlingen praktisk talt er afskaffet i nogle af disse, medens der er andre, hvor arbejdet først skal begynde.
Worker participation in Britain means works councils because in Britain there are no supervisory boards in companies on which one could have a director.
Cassanmagnago Cerretti (PPE). — (IT) Hr. for mand, det er med en ganske særlig interesse, jeg kommer med et indlæg i drøftelsen af Pearcebetænkningen om medarbejdende ægtefæller i familiebrug i landbruget.
But the Commission is resolved — and I am saying that quite emphatically, as I have also said it in the committees — to give priority to this project. We will not delay it.
Grunden til denne særlige interesse er, at selv om Fællesskabets landbrug omfatter mange forskellige brugsformer efter de forskellige regioner, så er det dog det store antal familiebrug, der først og fremmest er karakteristisk for det.
We regard it as a highly important deci sion and one that will provide a legal framework for the internal market. We cannot create an internal mar ket while leaving the undertakings that want to work together in that market without the legal instruments they need if they are to cooperate across the frontiers.
85% af samtlige brug drives af familier, og deres juridiske, indkomstmæssige og sociale vilkår er ikke på højde med, hvad man finder for erhvervsdrivende inden for andre erhverv.
This is an original piece of European legislation and European legislation cannot lag behind the social progress achieved in this field in most of the Member States.
De sikrede rettigheder for medarbejdende hustruer i landbruget har indtil nu været så begrænsede, at det flere gange har tiltrukket sig Europa- Parlamentets opmærksomhed.
The debate about participation which has been going on for many years in some Member States must surely have shown that there is no question here of turning a market economy system on its head, so to speak.
Vi er nu kommet så vidt, at en hel række krav vedrørende aflønning, beskatning og social sikring må opfyldes ved lovgivning.
So let us please not complicate matters and, as Mr Turner rightly said, look at the question with a view to formulating sensible European company law provisions.
Hr. Pearce har ud fra særdeles prisværdige hensigter ønsket at indføre begrebet »ansat«, der skulle være ligeværdighedskriterium i de stater, der er mindst fremskredne på det sociale område, og jeg har selv i første omgang ment, at denne formel kunne være brugelig.
They have grown up over many years in different countries and they have different histories to them. Translating them exactly does not always clarify the position at all, as you, Mr President, will well remember from the time back in the early 80s when we were working on the Fifth Company Law Directive in the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights.
I dag mener jeg imidlertid, at vi må beslutte os til helt at opgive henvisningen til dette ansatbegreb, idet en medarbejdende landmandskone på ingen måde er en ansat og ikke kan være lønmodtager.
The words 'worker participation' are the umbrella term which cover all the options which are on offer for the different countries in their different systems.
Hvad vi ønsker, og nu vil jeg slutte, hr. formand, er, at man anerkender en status for landmænds hustruer, der svarer til landmandens egen, dvs. en status som medindehaver med alle de følger, som afledes heraf på det sociale, skattemæssige og ansvarsmæssige område.
I therefore believe that the flexibility that I see set out in the White Paper is in accord with exist ing national practices and is vital for the success of the venture. I hope it will be fully represented in the draft which the Commission will bring forward.
Vi må erkende, at det direktiv, der snart vil træde i kraft, uden tvivl er fortjenstfuldt ved sin juridiske og sociale rækkevidde.
At first sight it would obviously be relatively difficult to impose this ruling in such a case.
Det er imidlertid nok tilfældet, at det ikke er fuldt dækkende i alle sine følgevirkninger for kvindernes nye rolle, også med henblik på 1992, som der må tages hensyn til, ligesom der må tages hensyn til de mangler, jeg har nævnt.
We are quite prepared to examine that question again; but what he called consultation on the choice of model — given, at least, that the Member States leave any options — cannot of course take place without the participation of the workers.
Graziani (COM). — (IT) Hr. formand, jeg vil ganske kort fremsætte vor gruppes positive principielle udtalelse om beslutningsforslaget, som dette er blevet vedtaget i udvalget.
BANGEMANN, Vice-President of the Commission. — (DE) Mr President, the Commission is very pleased that Parliament has responded so positively to its questions in the momorandum.
Med denne beslutning afskaffes sammenblandingen mellem følelser og erhvervsmæssig rolle, og dette er rimeligt, da det drejer sig om helt forskellige planer.
Of course there is still a whole range of individual questions, which have also been raised again here during the debate, and which we have still not finalized.
På den ene side har vi følelserne, der må holdes uden for den erhvervsmæssige logik, på den anden side har vi deltagelsen i virksomhedens drift, der bygger på økonomiske principper.
After all, we do not yet have the detailed proposal which we will be submitting shortly, after Parliament has given its opinion here.
Det må ikke glemmes, at hævdelsen af princippet om ligestilling inden for landbrugsvirksomheder og også i andre virksomheder er slutresultatet af en lang kamp for frigørelse, der er blevet ført af kvinderne, navnlig på landet.
I myself was sitting over there when we in fact accepted the one-third par ity model by a large majority; but it then emerged during the discussions that in the Federal Republic of Germany for instance, the Federal Constitutional Court, the supreme constitutional court in the Federal Republic, declared this model unconstitutional. It is not inconceivable that other countries' constitutions
Guermeur (RDE). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil først hylde det arbejde, hr. Andrew Pearce, har udført ved en yderst vanskelig betænkning, hvor forskellene mellem medlemsstaterne har gjort det næsten umuligt at finde en mellemløsning, der kunne godkendes af alle erhvervsorganisationerne. Han er gået til arbejdet med den udholdenhed, som han før har vist, og jeg tror ikke, at nogen her i Parlamentet vil nægte, at han fortjener denne hyldest.
Everyone who has spoken in the debate this morning and this evening knows quite well that we are dealing with a very difficult technical legal matter, but that in the end, compared to the political difficulties con nected with participation — and here I agree with Mr Turner: of course there are difficulties of nomenclature, but I use the word Mitbestimmung, worker participation — these technically complex provisions are the real political stumbling-block in this project.
Til sidst vil jeg gerne komplimentere hr. Pearce og sige, at vor opfattelse af problemerne er helt sam menfaldende med hans fremstilling.
I cannot commit the Commission here on every detail of the matter, but I cannot imagine that we will propose that model again.
Afstemningen finder sted i morgen kl. 12.00.
The vote will be held tomorrow at 12 noon.
Statut for Det Europæiske Selskab (fortsættelse)
Voting rights in local elections
Direktivets indhold var så alvorligt svækket efter Rådets vedtagelse, at Kommissionen i en kommen tar i Rådets forhandlingsprotokol udtrykte sin beklagelse over Rådets manglende politiske vilje til at løse disse problemer.
What certainly can be considered — as said in the committee discussions — is how far this model should be accompanied by tax incentives; for in spite of the reservations we know still exist among a few under takings and employers in some Member States, it would of course be an enormous incentive to accept ing this legal instrument if we offered tax incentives, which must not act as a long-term burden on the com petitiveness of other forms of undertaking but could certainly have a good effect on the early days of a European company of this kind.
Garcia Amigo (ED). — (ES) Hr. formand, i tilknytning til formiddagens debat vil jeg i princippet på min gruppes vegne svare på de tre spørgsmål, som Kommissionen stiller i sit dokument.
the proposal from the Commission to the Council (COM(88) 371 final — Doc. C 2-104/88) for a directive on voting rights for Community nationals in local elections in their Member State of residence.
Princippet om en valgfri statut: Ja; en sådan statuts uafhængighed i forhold til national ret: Ja ; men de tre indføjede modeller for arbejdstagernes medindflydelse finder jeg utilstrækkelige.
That Mr Turner proved himself so open here tonight does him credit and I hope he will not get into trouble in his Member State because of it.
I sit program på mellemlang sigt for 1986-90 om kvinders ligestilling har Kommissionen forpligtet sig til at fremsætte forslag om retningslinjer for fællesskabsaktiviteter til fordel for medhjælpende hustruer, også i landbrugsbedrifter.
VETTER (S), rapporteur. — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, according to our image of the nation State, it is not the people living in the national territory but the body politic that is invested with supreme power.
På denne bag grund offentliggjordes i 1986 en undersøgelse udført på grundlag af stikprøver, om erhvervsaktive kvinder, som udfører ulønnet arbejde, og denne viser, hvilke store problemer der er for denne gruppe.
As early as December 1974 with the decision of the Heads of State or Government to set up a working party to examine the conditions and timetable for granting the citizens of the nine Member States of the time special rights as members of the Community and more recently with the 1984 Council meeting in Fontainebleau and the setting up of the ad hoc committee on a citizens' Europe, it became clear that we must move away from this nation-State frame of mind.
Efter denne undersøgelse iværksattes i 1988 en undersøgelse, som meget snart vil blive offentlig gjort, om selvstændiges og medhjælpende ægtefællers sociale sikring.
We must give the four million Community citizens, who took the right to freedom of movement seriously and thereby lost their right to stand and vote in local elections, their powers of political influence back again.
Hvorfor siger jeg nu dette, hr. formand?
The Commission is working hard to bring about that agreement.
Jeg går hermed ind i en vurdering af hr. Rothleys betænkning, der er udarbejdet for Udvalget om Retlige Anliggender.
I have already told Mr Mihr once, and I know I will have to tell him several times until he finally agrees: we must not overload the ship.
Det er helt klart et meget væsentligt problem, men det er ikke det eneste. Under alle omstændigheder er det ét aspekt blandt mange, som der skal tages hensyn til i en statut for Det Europæiske Selskab.
Nor do I con sider it necessary, for it is at that level that legal provisions already exist in all the Member States that ensure that the workers of an undertaking have a say on social matters, matters concerning conditions at the workplace, working hours and suchlike.
Der er andre aspekter, såsom selve udarbejdelsen af en statut for Det Europæiske Selskab.
So if we refer to the national laws in this context, that should really be quite enough.
Min gruppe har stillet et ændringsforslag, hvori det tilstræbes at revidere alle de afsnit, som hr. Rothley tillægger afgørende betydning, hvorved han nedvurderer eller i hvert fald undervurderer de øvrige aspekter.
To all those who have rightly complained that it is now, I think, fifteen years since we saw the first proposal and that nothing has happened since then, I want to say: let us concede that we must do things differently so that something does happen.
På baggrund af denne frist har Kommissionen nu sendt en skrivelse til medlemssta terne, hvori regeringerne anmodes om at meddele Kommissionen, hvorledes de har tilpasset sig bestemmelserne om gennemførelsen af det pågældende direktiv.
At the very root of democracy is the right to freedom, and freedom also means freedom of self-determination.
Kommissionen er ved at udarbejde et spørgeskema til dette formål, som vil blive sendt til alle medlemsstaterne. Svarene på dette spørgeskema vil danne grundlag for en rapport fra Kommissionen om gennemførelsen af dette direktiv.
The means of achieving it is participation by all concerned in choosing the decision-makers who will exercise power.
Betænkningen opfordrer Kommissionen til at udarbejde et direktiv om anerkendelse af medhjælpende
Today it is citizens of the European Community who have chosen to live in a country other than their own who are fighting for this right.
Selskab, og i så fald skal vi henholde os, ikke blot til artikel 100 A, stk. 1, men også til stk. 2, hvor der under alle omstændigheder kræves overholdelse af princippet om enstemmighed.
aration, a Community proposal has been reached for guaranteeing and broadening the participation of Community nationals in local elections in their Member States of residence.
Mihr (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, jeg hører blandt dem i Parlamentet, som principielt siger ja til et europæisk selskab inden for rammerne af en europæisk selskabsret.
The achievement of this objective undoubtedly represents a necessary step forward towards the aim of European political union, which is a fundamental aim in the present phase in which the process of economic integration is rapidly accelerating.
Der har været mange misforståelser om de forskel lige tekniske betegnelser for forskellige former for medbestemmelse.
In accordance with Parliament's requests and its res ponsibilities for the legal area of the Community, we decided in committee to amend the Commission pro posal and laid down that in order to participate in local elections in another Member State, EC nationals must have been resident there for five years.
Disse er kommet til over et længere tidsrum i de forskellige lande og har en varierende historie bag sig.
That gives these citizens the right to vote and to stand for election.
En nøjagtig oversættelse betyder ikke altid, at sagerne kommer til at fremstå meget klarere, som De, hr. formand, vil kunne erindre fra dengang først i firserne, da vi i Udvalget om Retlige Anliggender og Borgernes Rettigheder arbejdede på det femte selskabsretlige direktiv.
We think the way the Commission proposal splits the right to vote and the right to stand for election is unreasonable, and we found the vague way the minimum period of residence was formulated unlikely to create equivalent framework conditions in all the Member States.
I Kommissionens memorandum mangler der dog et afgørende punkt: Forankringen af arbejdstagernes repræsentation i virksomhederne, som allerede i Kommissionens forslag fra 1975, der var et grundlag ind i 1980'erne, blev støttet af Parlamentet med bredt flertal. En fast bestanddel var på daværende tidspunkt i artikel 5 det europæiske bedriftsråd.
In the case of the exceptional provisions, we formulated the rules for mayors and their deputies in Article 10 in such a way as to restrict these offices to nationals of the State in question.
Jeg opfordrer på ny Kommissionen til i et nyt forslag til Parlamentet ikke blot at fastsætte bestem melser for virksomhedernes bestyrelses- og ledelsesplan, men ligeledes give virksomhedsplanet lovbestemte hørings- og kontrolrettigheder. Sker dette ikke, er der overordentlig stor fare for, at virksomhedsledelserne spiller bold med de ansatte i sådanne grænseoverskridende selskaber.
The legal instrument that we are considering therefore seems to us to be not only a measure that has become necessary in order to allow the millions of Community nationals who have moved to another Member State to exercise this right — from which they are, at present, anachronistically excluded — but it also represents the essential prerequisite to help overcome obstacles that still stand in the way of freedom of movement and freedom of establishment of citizens within the European Economic Community, and in the way of the creation of a European society that respects the social, civil, cultural and political rights of every citizen who lives and works in the European Economic Community.
Bangemann, næstformand i Kommissionen. — (DE) Hr. formand, Kommissionen glæder sig meget over, at Parlamentets svar på dens spørgsmål i memorandummet er faldet så positivt ud.
Regarding Luxembourg, we offered the possibility of waiving the application of the directive in the first general local elections.
Naturligvis er der en lang række enkeltspørgsmål, som også her under forhandlingen er taget op endnu en gang, og som vi endnu ikke har fundet en endelig løsning på.
The committee also endorsed Article 12 of the Commission proposal which restricts the proportion of nationals of another Member State to 25% of the total number of local councillors at the first election.
Og endelig mangler vi jo også det detaljerede forslag, som vi, efter at Parlamentet nu har afgivet sin udtalelse, vil forelægge inden længe.
I myself have since tabled further amendments to Articles 11 and 12, but I shall speak on them at the vote.
Enhver, som har talt under denne forhandling i formiddags og her i aften, er helt klar over, at vi skal behandle en retsteknisk vanskelig sag, men at disse teknisk vanskelige bestemmelser sammenlignet med den politiske vanskelighed i forbindelse med med bestemmelsen — hvor jeg giver hr. Turner ret : Der er naturligvis vanskeligheder i nomenklaturen, men jeg siger altså her medbestemmelse, workers' participation — i sidste instans egentlig er de politiske klipper for dette forehavende.
In this sense, in the debate that took place within the Committee on Social Affairs great attention was paid not only to the amendments that were proposed — and which were accepted also by the Committee on Legal Affairs — but also to the great question of immigration from third countries; a solution to the problems that this raises can no longer be found on a national basis but only in the European context, in order to guarantee parity and equality of rights amongst all European citizens.
Turner (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, at vælge organisation som et europæisk selskab vil være meget praktisk for både store og små selskaber, når de går over grænserne efter 1992.
The difference between the way the various local territorial authorities are organized eventually led us in committee to leave the definition of local elections to the individual Member States.
Det vil være nyttigt at have denne yderligere valgmulighed, og dens enkelt hed gør, at den vil kunne blive af stor betydning.
We were also con cerned about the divergences between the technical administrative procedures for obtaining local electoral rights.
Såfremt det er enkelt, som det efter hvidbogen synes sandsynligt, vil det betyde en forenkling af selskabs retten snarere end en komplikation.
That is why we agreed in Article 33(1), (2) and (3) on a formula adapted to the respective national procedures for own nationals.
Men virksomhederne må have tiltro til de muligheder, de står overfor. Jeg tror, at dette forslag i hvidbogen er af særlig betydning, fordi Kommissionen har accepteret tanken om ligeværdige valgmuligheder, sådan som Europa-Parlamentet indførte den i det femte sel skabsretlige direktiv i 1982, så arbejdstagernes med bestemmelsesret kan gennemføres i den form, den har i praksis i de forskellige medlemsstater.
This equality is increasingly necessary in order to reach a more concrete stage in the communal life and civilization of the Europe of today and tomorrow, and in order to fight in an effective manner the scandalous, uncivilized xenophobic and racist campaigns that accentuate the isolation, the divisions and stresses amongst citizens and workers.
Herefter betyder arbejdstagernes medbestemmelsesret i Tyskland arbejdstagermedlemmer i tilsynsrådet. I Italien betyder det kollektive overenskomster.
The directive on voting rights in local elections in the version adopted by the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights will help achieve this.
Men for det andet — og jeg siger dette eftertrykkeligt — er spørgsmålet om medbestemmelse for os også et spørgsmål om den euro pæiske rets identitet.
MARINARO (COM), draftsman of the opinion of the Committee on Social Affairs and Employment. — (IT) Mr President, the Committee on Social Affairs considered it to be a matter of great political, social and civil importance that, after a long period of study and prep
Det drejer sig heller ikke om at svække virksomhedernes konkurrenceevne.
ROTHLEY (S). — (DE) Mr President, let me warmly thank Mr Vetter for his moving explanatory state ment.
Man bør således slå lidt koldt vand i blodet — om jeg så må sige — og se problemet, som hr. Turner med rette siger, i forbindelse med fornuftige bestemmelser for den europæiske virksomhedslovgivning.
I think it has come at a good time. It may help make the discussion of the question of foreigners somewhat more objective in various Member States, and perhaps also in the Federal Republic of Germany.
Jeg kan og vil frem for alt ikke allerede i dag her sige noget om retsgrundlaget. Dette er et fremragende eksempel på, at Kommissionen på et vist tidspunkt endnu ikke siger noget om retsgrundlaget, ikke, som man måske skulle tro, på grund af mistro over for Parlamentet, men derimod ganske enkelt som en slags politisk strategi, som vi må anvende, fordi alle medlemslande netop ikke stiller sig så åbent over for denne ide, som man egentlig kunne have forventet.
I would have liked to say a few words to our extraspecial Europeans in this Parliament, namely the Ger man Christian Democrats, but only Mr Pirkl is here and I fear there is no way I can persuade him anyway.