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Formanden. — Det er artikel 64 om debatter om aktuelle og uopsættelige spørgsmål.
DE LA MALENE (RDE). — (FR) Mr President, I am very interested in what has just happened and I should like to know on what criterion you decided this last vote, and not the one before, was the right one.
Der var en an modning til forsamlingen om, at dette blev taget som en uopsættelig sag og behandlet i morgen i stedet for torsdag.
I should like to know the virtue of your machine and be told as of when a vote may be deemed valid.
Pannella (NI). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg mener, Par lamenter bør stemmme om disse betænkninger. Det er indlysende, at vi er en politisk organisation, og hvis vi, som vore kommunistiske kolleger har sagt, vil benytte denne lejlighed — protokoller vedrørende appelsiner, citroner osv. — til at give udtryk for vor negative holdning til dagens israelske politik, er det spillets regler.
Whether you believe, as Parliament does, that it is rejected if it does not gain the required number of votes, i.e. 260, or whether you think, as Council does, that it is not rejected but simply that Parliament has not delivered an opinion since it has not gained the necessary number of votes, it all boils down to the same thing.
Selv om jeg personlig ikke er enig i det, respekterer jeg dette synspunkt.
This morning at the meeting of chairmen of political groups I deliberately asked the representative of the Council what would happen if the protocols were put to the vote in the House but did not receive 260 votes.
Men når man siger til os, at der måske ikke vil være den nødvendige beslutningsdygtighed, og at vi så definitivt vil have forkastet en helhed, mener jeg, vi skal svare, at vi vil stem me, og at de, der vil være fraværende, må være ansvarlige for deres fravær.
I specifically asked him if, as some people are saying, negotiations would be taken up again, which would mean a longterm postponement of the decision, even if there were to be a marked inprovement in the situation in Israel.
Allerede i sidste måned blev problemet rejst, og allerede dengang var jeg ikke enig.
He stated categorically that for the Council there was no reason to re-enter all the negotiations and that Council could submit the question to Parliament again at any time when Parliament was ready to examine it and deliver a fresh opinion. nion.
Prout (ED). - (EN) Hr. formand, hvis De følger artikel 64, er der en bestemt, fastsat procedure.
And so I believe that these protocols should be submit ted to the House, which should then shoulder its responsibilities.
Der skal være tid til, at gruppeformændene kan overveje det. Det skal være tid til indsigelser. Der skal være tid til en række formaliteter, som De må sørge for tilgodeses korrekt, hvis De skal overholde Deres egen frist. Jeg ville være Dem særdeles taknemlig, hvis De ville fortælle os, hvordan De vil klare det.
Either they will receive 260 votes and the protocols will be adopted, or else they will not.
Formanden. — Jeg mente, at forsamlingen, da den stemte om det, tog hensyn dertil i bevidstheden om, at grupperne må afsætte passende tid til at behandle det.
PRESIDENT. — Mr de la Malene, might I on this occasion — since in the past I have admitted that you were right and I was wrong — say I was absolutely right.
Jeg sagde, at fristen, når listen over beslutningsforslag lukkes, er kl. 19 i aften, og at fristen for at stille ændringsforslag vil være kl. 11 i morgen.
The votes that were actually cast were far fewer than the number present in the House and voting.
Det giver formodentlig ikke den nødvendige tid til at behandle det tilstrækkeligt i grupperne selv, men så dan er situationen.
We checked with the technicians and they said quite clearly that there had been a breakdown in the mach ine.
Hr. formand, i snart ti år har vi radikale bevist, at vi står bag alle dem, hvis rettigheder krænkes, og som lider.
It was therefore obviously clear that that was the situation.
Men jeg må sige, at vi gør det med stor op mærksomhed og uden at tænke på en letkøbt gevinst.
I had no alternative but to take a re-vote.
Jeg er aldeles ikke sikker på, tværtimod, at det er de israelske myndigheder, der i nogle dage nu har pålagt hæren at dræbe mennesker.
The debate on Northern Ireland will take place between 6 p.m. and 7 p.m. tomorrow.
Det forekommer mig indlysende, at Israels interesse ikke er at udsætte sig for alt for alvorlige episoder.
The deadline for resolutions will be today at 7 p.m. and for amendments tomorrow at 11 a.m.
I denne situation er der andre, der har en interesse i, at der er døde.
Quite apart from the question of the protocol to the agreement with Israel, we are dealing with the time at which Council or Commission proposals should be presented to this House.
Personlig accepterer jeg ikke disse massakrer, og jeg mener, at vi under alle omstændigheder bør udføre vort arbejde som parlamentarikere.
There is no way anyone can attempt to change the position of this House by alter ing the order of business.
Prout (ED). - (EN) Hr. formand, undskyld at jeg tager ordet igen, men en simpel flertalsafstemning i forsamlingen kan ikke tilsidesætte Forretningsordenen.
PROUT (ED). — On the issue of the Anglo-Irish debate.
Der er en konkret procedure, når Forretningsordenen skal ændres, og den procedure var vi ikke igennem i eftermiddags, da vi stemte.
Could you let us know, Mr President, under what Rule you are proceeding?
de la Malene (RDE). - (FR) Hr. formand, jeg er meget interesseret i det, der netop er sket, og jeg vil gerne vide, ud fra hvilket kriterium De har besluttet,
PANELLA (NI). — (FR) Mr President, I think that Parliament should put these reports to the vote. We are obviously a political animal and if we want, as our
Hvis denne debat skal finde sted i overensstemmelse med artikel 64, så skal bestemmelserne i artikel 64 følges til punkt og prikke. Hvis vi følger bestemmel-
PRESIDENT. — Under Rule 64 on debates on topical and urgent subjects.
Følgende punkter er ikke vedtaget i udvalget og er derfor taget af dagsordenen : seme i artikel 64 til punkt og prikke, så kan den tids plan, De har læst op for forsamlingen, simpelt hen ikke overholdes.
and 64(2), which specify to the timetable for amend ments and objections.
Jeg vil derfor gerne opfordre Dem til at se på sagen igen og komme tilbage til os med en ny indstilling.
Anyway, I am much obliged to you for looking at this matter again.
— Indstilling ved anden behandling fra Udvalget om Miljø- og Sundhedsanliggender og Forbrugerbeskyttelse om aromaer i levnedsmidler (ordfører: Ghergo),
PRESIDENT. — We are going to set aside one hour tomorrow for this debate and I am hopeful that that one hour will be granted.
— Banotti-betænkningen for Udvalget om Miljø- og Sundhedsanliggender og Forbrugerbeskyttelse om frugtsaft og visse lignende produkter,
PROUT (ED). — Mr President, if you follow Rule 64 there is a certain fixed procedure. There will have to be time for consideration by the group chairmen.
Formanden. — Jeg vil snakke med formanden for Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet og om nødvendigt med andre medlemmer af udvalget for at overveje det.
There will have to be time for objections. There will have to be time for a number of formalities which you will have to make sure are properly respected if you are to meet your own deadline.
Jeg ville mene, at der var tilstrækkelig dækning i artikel 64, stk. 3 :
I would be most grateful if you would let us know how you are going to do that?
— Banotti-betænkningen for Udvalget om Miljø- og Sundhedsanliggender og Forbrugerbeskyttelse om marmelade og frugtgelé samt kastaniecreme.
PRESIDENT. — I thought when the House voted on this they took that into account knowing that the groups will have to allow the appropriate time to deal with this.
... den samlede taletid for grupperne og for medlemmerne uden for grupperne [fordeles] i henhold til artikel 83, stk. 24, for så vidt angår den maksimale tid for debatten osv. Hvis grupperne selv finder det umuligt at afsætte til strækkelig tid til det, må det tages under overvejelse i relation til Forretningsordenen.
I did say that the deadline for closing the list for resolutions would be 7 p.m. this evening and that the deadline for closing the list of amendments would be 11 a.m. tomorrow. That presumably does not give the necessary time to deal with this adequately in the groups themselves but that is the position.
Banotti (PPE), ordfører. - (EN) Hr. formand, De har klarlagt sagen nu.
MCCARTIN (PPE). — Mr President, I rise on a point of information because you did not give us any indication of when the vote would be held.
Min opfattelse er, at vi afventer en domstolsafgørelse om andre sider af levnedsmiddel lovgivningen, der har samme relevans for betænkningerne, og at vi derfor har udsat dem, indtil denne domstolsafgørelse er bekendt.
However, I want to say that I think you made a good judgment in this case and the House having democratically decided, without any objection at the time, it is only reasonable that that decision should stand.
A2-292/87) af Lataillade om priser på lægemidler til menneskeligt forbrug vil blive sat på dagsordenen i stedet for de to Banotti-betænkninger. tænkninger.
It is an extraordinary situation that I have to rise and support those two people when they ask this House to adopt urgent pro cedure to give advice to the Intergovernmental Con ference which both of them so strenuously objected to in this House such a short time ago.
Prout (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, det var ikke lige det, jeg mente.
PROUT (ED). — Mr President, I am sorry to inter vene again but a simple majority vote of this House cannot overrule the Rules of this House.
Jeg peger snarere på artikel 64, stk. 1 og 2, der specificerer tidsplanen for ændringsforslag og indsigelser. Under alle omstændigheder er jeg Dem meget forbunden, fordi De vil se på sagen igen.
There is a specific procedure for amending the Rules of this House, and we did not go through that procedure this afternoon when we took our vote.
A2-271/87) om de politiske aspekter af forbindelserne mellem Fælles skabet og Mellemamerika vil blive optaget sidst på onsdagens dagsorden.
The chairman themselves will tomorrow morning be considering the further procedure and voting time relating to this particular issue.
Formanden. — Vi afsætter en time i morgen til debat ten, og jeg nærer håb om, at vi får denne time.
If this debate is going to take place under Rule 64 then the provisions of Rule 64 will have to be followed to the letter.
Det er noget, som forsamlingen meget klart har bestemt, og derfor er det også noget, vi alle skal se på ud fra For retningsordenens bestemmelser og naturligvis inden for den tildelte tid.
If we follow the provisions of Rule 64 to the letter, the timetable that you have read out to the House simply cannot be fulfilled. I would like, there fore, to invite you to have a look at the matter again and come back to the House with a further recommendation. mendation.
Det ser ud til at være sådan, at nogle mennesker her i huset har flere rettigheder end andre.
The following items have not been adopted in committee and are therefore removed from the agenda:
McCartin (PPE). - (EN) Hr. formand, jeg tager ordet for at få en information, for De tilkendegav ikke noget om, hvornår afstemningen vil finde sted.
— Recommendation for the second reading from the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection concerning flavourings for use in foodstuffs
Imidlertid vil jeg gerne sige, at jeg mener, De trafen god afgørelse i sagen, og da forsamlingen har besluttet demokratisk uden nogen indsigelse dengang, er det kun rimeligt, at denne afgørelse står ved magt.
PRESIDENT. — I shall speak to the Chairman of the Committee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities and, if necessary, to other members of that committee to consider this.
Jeg glæder mig over den mere fornuftige sindstilstand, som de befinder sig i denne aften.
I would have thought there was adequate coverage under Rule 64(3):
Det var os ikke muligt i sidste uge at drøfte det i grupperne, og der er indtil nu ikke fastsat nogen frist for at stille ændringsforslag.
The total speaking time for the political groups and non-attached members shall be allocated in accordance with the procedure laid down under Rule 83(2) to (4) . . .
Jeg må spørge, om der under disse omstændigheder kan forhandles seriøst om et spørgsmål, som immervæk i mange måneder har op taget denne forsamling meget intenst.
— Banotti report on behalf of the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection on legislation concerning fruit juices and certain similar products
Jeg spørger Dem, hvordan vi skal gøre det.
. . . concerning the maximum time for debates and so forth.
Når det er andre medlemmer og andre betænkninger, er en sådan ilprocedure utænkelig.
If the groups themselves find it impossible to give adequate time to this, this will have to taken into consideration having regard to the Rules.
Desuden fylder begrundelsen i betænkningen 70 sider og er dermed mere end fem gange så lang, som det normalt må være tilfældet. Jeg spørger Dem, hvordan det kan komme i stand på den måde.
— Banotti report on behalf of the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection on legislation relating to fruit jams, jellies and marmalades. lades.
Formanden. — Vi har vedtaget at opdele tiden til debatten om aktuelle og uopsættelige spørgsmål af væsentlig betydning og afsætte en time i morgen aften til denne debat.
BANOTTI (PPE), rapporteur. — Mr President, you have subsequently clarified the matter.
Arndt (S). — (DE) Først vil jeg gerne begrunde vort forslag. Jeg må bede de andre gruppeformænd und skylde.
Banotti not be put on the agenda; in other words we are against this proposal.
Må jeg derfor bede om, under disse om stændigheder, at teksten til den af Miljøudvalget stil lede mundtlige forespørgsel behandles sammen med den, hr. Eyraud har stillet?
standing is that we are awaiting a court decision relat­ing to other aspects of food legislation which has the same relevance to the reports therefore we have post­poned them until this court decision is known.
Formanden. — Jeg synes, at det, hr. Collins sagde, var fornuftigt.
PRESIDENT. — The second report (Doc.
(Forslaget vedtoges)
The interim report (Doc.
Croux (PPE). — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg lyttede op mærksomt til det, hr. Arndt sagde, og jeg vil gerne føje hertil, at jeg er enig i, at den anden betænkning af Lataillade ikke sættes på dagsordenen.
CROUX (PPE). — (NL) Mr President, I have listened very carefully to Mr Arndt and agree with him that the Lataillade report No 2 should not be put on the order paper.
Men så må han også kunne forstå, at vi ikke kan gå med til, at Glinnebetænkningen sættes på dagsordenen, for dis se to betænkninger er jo netop koblet sammen under debatten i morgen.
But then he ought also to understand that the Glinne report cannot be put on the other paper either because these two were linked together this morning in the meeting.
Dette er ikke mindst tilfældet i betragtning af, hvad fru Lenz har sagt.
This is all the more valid in view of what Mrs Lenz has said.
Hr. formand, De kan ikke anmode Parlamentet, om, at Glinnebetænkningen behandles i denne uge.
Mr President, I do not think you can ask this House to debate the Glinne report this week.
Jeg vil gerne spørge, om Kommissionen nu vil komme med en redegørelse i overensstemmelse med artikel 56 på et eller andet tidspunkt i ugens løb. så at vi kan vide, hvad situationen er.
The report and the explanatory statement are not even available.
Det kunne hjælpe Parlamentet i dets overvejelser over de nu udsatte Hitzigrath-be-tænkninger.
In view of this morning's deci­sion I think the Socialist group should not insist on the Glinne report being taken.
Formanden. — Hr. Price, jeg skal nok stille Kommissionen spørgsmålet.
LENZ (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, I am astonished to hear that the so-called interim report by Mr Glinne, which up until now had never been called an interim report, is to be put on the agenda.
Kommissionen har noteret sig Deres bemærkning og Deres spørgsmål, og jeg håber, at vi kan få nogle informationer (!).
I seems that some Members of this House have more rights than others.
Robles Piquer (ED). — (ES) Hr. formand, kun nogle få ord for at sige, at jeg er enig i det, fru Lenz sagde. Jeg mener ikke, at der er tilstrækkelig grund eller til strækkelig tid til, at forsamlingen kan debattere og vedtage eller forkaste betænkningen af Glinne.
ROBLES PIQUER (ED). — (ES) Mr President, I would just briefly like to say a few words in support of Mrs Lenz and say that I do not think that there is either sufficient reason or time for this Parliament to debate and vote on Mr Glinne's report in a plenary session.
(Forslaget om at sætte Latailladebetænkningen på dagsordenen forkastedes)
(Parliament rejected the proposal to include the Latail­lade report in the agenda)
(Forslaget om at sætte Glinnebetænkningen på dags ordenen forkastedes)
(Parliament rejected the proposal to include the Glinne report in the agenda)
Formanden. — For så vidt angår torsdag:
Thursday:
Ford (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg beder om Deres overbærenhed.
This report was only put to the vote in the Political Affairs Committee ten days ago.
Mit indlæg til Forretningsordenen drejer sig om det forslag, hr. Lalor stillede, og som forsamlingen vedtog.
There has been no opportunity to debate it in the groups this past week and there is no deadline for tabling amendments.
Jeg syntes, jeg hørte Dem sige. at De ville fastsætte afstemningstiden til i morgen.
I doubt whether in these circum­stances we can have a proper debate on a subject which this House has nonetheless considered very ser­iously over many months.
Så vidt jeg husker, siger artikel 64, stk. 4 :
How are we going to do it?
Når forhandlingen er afsluttet, finder afstemningen straks sted.
This hasty procedure would be unthinkable with other Members and other reports.
(') For ændringen af fredagens dagsorden: se protokollen.
Furthermore, the explan­atory statement to this report is 70 pages long, about five times as long as it ought normally to be.
På grund af Rådets møde, der finder sted på torsdag og fredag, vil det tyske formandskab ikke kunne be svare mundtlig forespørgsel (dok.
PRESIDENT. — Because of the Council meeting which is taking place on Thursday and Friday, the German Presidency will not be able to reply to Oral Question (Doc.
B2-1657/87) af Eyraud om forbud mod hormoner.
Β 2-1657/87) by Mr Eyraud on the ban on hormones.
Forhandlingen vil derfor finde sted på grundlag af mundtlig forespørgsel (dok.
This debate will therefore take place on the basis of the oral question (Doc.
B2-1658/87) til Kommissionen om samme emne.
Β 21658/87) on the same subject, which has been put to the Commission.
ændringsforslag — Taletiden: se protokollen.
ARNDT (S). — (DE) I should like first to move our request.
Jeg går ud fra, at De vil følge denne regel, og at vi ikke tager afstemningen en følgende dag.
This might help Parliament in its consideration, now postponed, of the Hitzigrath reports.
Formanden. — Det vil være tilfældet, hr. Ford.
PRESIDENT. — Mr Price, I will certainly put the question to the Commission.
domstol var overdraget til moderen.
These facts, as described in the charge are not dis puted.
Faderen havde unddraget sig sine retslige belgiske forpligtelser og endvidere undladt at udlevere børnene, hvorfor han for øvrigt idømtes en streng straf af de belgiske straf femyndigheder.
But in implementing our principles on the waiver of parliamentary immunity, we must deal not with the facts as such, as this is not allowed under our Rules of Procedure, but with the intentions.
Børnene var i Algeriet. Faderen ønskede at holde dem borte fra moderen, som de end ikke måtte besøge.
In the present case there is no disputing the fact that Mrs Lizin intended to go to Algeria to execute, to a certain extent, a decision of the Belgian courts.
Det forklarer fru Lizins ønske om at »hente« børnene i Algeriet på den af Dem nu kendte måde.
Because it is equally undeniable that a Belgian court had granted custody of the three children in question to their mother.
Metoden er formelt ulovlig, men måske, hvad angår hensigten, yderst prisværdig.
The father had evaded his obligations imposed on him by the Belgian judicial authorities and committed the crime of failing to present the children, for which the Belgian judicial authorities passed a heavy sentence on him.
A2-274/87) af Donnez for Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlem mernes Immunitet om anmodning om ophævelse af Anne-Marie Lizins parlamantariske immunitet.
A 2-274/87) by Mr Donnez, on behalf of the Committee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities, on the request for the waiver of Mrs Lizin's immunity.
Donnez (LDR), ordfører. — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, den belgiske justitsminister har ved skrivelse af 12. marts 1986 anmodet Parlamentet om at ophæve Anne-Marie Lizins parlamentariske immunitet.
DONNEZ (LDR), rapporteur. — (FR) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, the Belgian Ministry of Justice,
De er uomtvistelige, og fru Lizin erkender dem, hvorfor der da heller intet er i proceduren, som tyder på den ringeste protest.
Requests for urgent procedure — Deadline for tabling amendments — Speaking time: see Minutes.
Det viser tydeligt, at fru Lizin ved at interessere sig for denne families skæbne ikke handlede som borgmester, men i pagt med sine politiske principper, som vi da heller ikke er langt fra enstemmigt at dele med hende.
The father wanted to withold them, to a certain extent, from their mother's custody, or even simply from her visiting rights.
I det foreliggende tilfælde er det ubestrideligt, at fru Lizin ville begive sig til Algeriet for at gennemføre en belgisk domstols afgørelse.
Which is why Mrs Lizin wanted to go and 'recover' — and I use the word in inverted commas, of course — the children in Algeria by the means you now know about.
gik fru Lizin nøje efter i sømmene for at finde ud af, hvad det virkelig drejede sig om.
Donnez case before us there is no reason to waive Mrs Lizin's parliamentary immunity.
Og om ikke af andre så af denne grund fortjener hun måske mere agtelse end skam.
means which in their intention may be particularly praiseworthy.
Jeg har forståelse for, at nogle kolleger heri ser et grænsetilfælde, og derfor vil jeg endnu en gang ud trykkeligt understrege, at ikke alle politiske problemer kan klares ved hjælp af aktioner fra medlemmer nes side.
We are all of us familiar in our own countries with similar dramas born of the custody of children of Maghreb fathers and European mothers.
Men jeg kunne ønske, at Parlamentet — i betragtning af den europæiske dimension — havde lidt mere mod til aktioner som den af fru Lizin gen nemførte.
Morals obviously differ from one side of the Mediterranean to the other, legislation is different and genuine dramas arise, in France in particular, from many mothers unable even to exercise their right to visit their own children where the French courts had awarded them custody. These tragedies exist.
Ved sådanne retfærdige handlinger vil of fentligheden fornemme Europa-Parlamentets fællesskabssans.
And we are so conscious of the problems that we appointed one of our own Members, Mrs Vayssade, to mediate in these affairs.
Regalia (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, på Den Socialistiske Gruppes vegne vil jeg gerne takke den erfarne ordfører, hr. Donnez, for betænkningen og sige, at jeg er glad for, at dette til at begynde med parlamentsinterne spørgsmål nu drøftes offentligt, endnu offentligere end det var tilfældet i Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet.
ROGALLA (S). — (DE) Mr President, on behalf of the Socialist group I should like to thank our trustworthy colleague and rapporteur, Mr Donnez, for this report and say specifically that I welcome the fact that this problem, which began as an internal matter for this Parliament, is being debated here publicly, indeed more publicly than happened in the Committee on Rules of Procedure, Verification of Credentials and Immunities.