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Lige i nærheden har Frankrig i mange år kastet sine affaldssalte fra kalilejer ud i Rhinen, og naboerne op ad Rhinen gør noget lignende, måske i samme omfang.
The German, French and Dutch Ministers welcomed the opportunity for discussing in a Community forum and agreed it was crucial that we must work for solutions to the problems which the incident had revealed.
Hr. formand, det er kun, hvad man kan vente af regeringer og folk, der anerkender naturens verden som menneskehedens fælles arv, at de viser solidaritet med hinanden i kampen mod miljømæssig udplyndring og forfald. Somme tider betyder det at stå sam men for at begrænse forurening, når forureningen ikke direkte rammer os i de enkelte samfund eller lande og at bruge nationale ressourcer til at opnå gevinster, som deles internationalt.
CLINTON DAVIS, Member of the Commission. — Mr President, early in the morning of 1 November the premises of Sandoz AG in Schweizerhall, Switzerland, containing a thousand tonnes of chemical products, mainly insecticides containing organic phosphorous compounds and fungicides containing mercury, caught fire.
At tage beslutninger for almenvellet, når fordele kommer en anden generation til gode, i et andet århundrede, et andet sted.
A great deal of water was used to extinguish the fire and somewhere between 10 and 30 tonnes of chemicals were washed into the Rhine.
For nylig sagde statsminister Brundtland fra Norge:
The meeting was inevitably preliminary in nature.
De sagde, at det var en første indledende drøftelse, den anden finder sted den 19. december, dvs. der vil igen gå mere end en må ned, inden vi hører noget.
The Swiss authorities, and the Sandoz Company, expressed contrition and so they should have done, for what had occurred and gave very welcome assurances concerning the payment of compensation and further assurances that the failures revealed, for example, in activating the alarm, would be rectified.
I fremtiden bør ingen nation have frihed til at forurene det fælles miljø og påføre andre stater alvorlige økologiske skader.
According to the Swiss authorities a regional alarm was given by telephone both to Germany and to France.
Faktisk har vi brug for en ny opfattelse af national sikkerhed, som går videre end den militære sikkerheds snævre grænser og omfatter gensidig økonomisk og økologisk afhængighed og globale miljømæssige risici.
The international alarm system for Rhine accidents was, however, only activated about 24 hours after the accident, this delay being apparantly due to a misunderstanding amongst the Swiss authorities.
Hvordan skal den kemiske industris lagre, men navn lig de kemiske råstoffer, halvfabrikata og færdigvarer, der er oplagret ved Rhinen, fremover overvåges, og af hvem?
Neither the cause of the fire nor the precise environmental consequences of the incident have yet been evaluated.
De sagde, at den schweiziske minister principielt er villig til at påtage sig ansvaret for at erstatte de lidte skader.
There was also a very valuable exchange of ideas on the larger questions of how to minimize the possibility of any recurrence.
Kan kommissæren sige os, om han fra USSRs side i forbindelse med Tjernobyl har modtaget et lig nende tilbud?
These questions will now be examined as a matter of urgency by experts in the context of the International Commission of the Rhine to which the Community is a contracting party and to which I alluded a moment or two ago.
I Warna ved Sortehavet var der en ulykke, hvor 19 mennesker måtte lade livet.
Ministers will meet again at the invitation of the Dutch Government on 19 December to maintain the political impetus that has been given.
Hr. formand, Parlamentet skal i dag diskutere en meget foruroligende hændelse.
In this connection, may I add that this afternoon I vis ited the hydrology unit at Strasbourg University which, like other laboratories in countries concerned, is engaged in analysing drinking water.
Mange medlemmer vil utvivlsomt have spørgsmål om dette. Som de faktisk bør have.
It is evident that this monitoring must continue and there can be no doubt that the scientists involved are working under immense strain.
Sherlock (ED). - (EN) Hr. formand, først vil jeg glæde mig over praktisk taget alt, hvad der er blevet berettet på dette meget tidlige stadium af kommissæren. Som han bemærkede, må vi vente på at få mange flere detaljer.
May I now go into a little more detail on some of the ideas which I, on behalf of the Commission, advocated at the Zurich meeting and which are now the subject of these further studies.
Jeg må sige, at skønt ingen af de med lemsstater, der er repræsenteret i den europæiske de mokratiske gruppe, har de samme flodbredsprovlemer som dem, der bor langs en af Europas største og mest problematiske floder, så deler vi fra et forureningssynspunkt deres bekymring, og vi vil gerne be nytte os af denne lejlighed til at give udtryk for vor interesse.
We must look again at other similar alarm systems to ensure that they do operate effectively. They must incorporate fail-safe mechanisms to mitigate the ever-present possibility of human error which was evidently displayed on this particular occasion.
Weber (S), formand for udvalget om miljø- og sund hedsanliggender og forbrugerbeskyttelse. — (DE) Hr. formand, vi taler om Bhopal i Rhinen. Af gode grunde har den forsætlige forgiftning af brønde gennem århundreder været den mest alvorlige forbrydelse, man kan tænke sig.
I am causing enquiries to be made of the President of the Rhine Commission to determine whether in the light of the increased responsibilities that his Commission is expected to bear, and to which I will refer in a moment, he feels it appropriate to ask contracting par-
Hvorfor er Seveso-direktivet først gennemført i Danmark, Det forenede Kon
This statement will be followed by 30 minutes of Members' questions pursuant to Rule 40.
Jeg vil til kommissærens bemærkninger føje, at den vurdering af miljømæssige virkninger, som Parlamentet har vedtaget, og som er vedtaget af Rådet, ville have været til nogen hjælp, som han allerede har hentydet til.
The second possibility for action is more wide-ranging. Parliament will be aware that following the Seveso incident in 1982 the Community adopted a directive on the prevention of major accident hazards of certain industrial activities.
Jeg vil også tilføje, at nogle af bestemmelserne i Seveso-direktivet, som i øjeblikket er ved at blive revideret, kunne have hjulpet.
This obliges manufacturers, national authorities and the Commission to establish preventive safety plans in the event of a major accident including full-risk analyses.
Sherlock de, og hvad kan det i bekræftende fald gøre for at forbedre situationen?
Clinton Davis procedures for information, advice and assistance right across national frontiers within the Community.
Endelig skal der laves et system for omgående information af alle tilgrænsende lande. Med hensyn til sidstnævnte punkt kunne der siges en hel del.
It seems possible that if provisions similar to those in the Seveso directive had applied in Switzerland this accident could have been avoided, or certainly the consequences mitigated substantially.
særligt henlede opmærksomheden på, at dette uheld skyldtes blandet oplagring, som stadig findes i nogle nabolande.
These incidents confirm that in our highly interdependent world we all live very close to the possibility of environmental disaster.
Jeg vil anbefale Haschem-systemet som advarsel til brandmænd. Ikke mindre end fire brandkorps var involveret i denne meget alvorlige brand.
Accidents such as this set back the cause of environmental protection.
Haschem-systemet kunne formentlig have hindret det.
We are constantly trying to arouse the sense of responsibility of such governments yet here we have an unavoidable break down in a country renowned for its high environmental standards.
Endelig spurgte min kollega her, om kommissæren vil give udtryk for sit syn på, om noget i retning af IAEA burde oprettes for at skabe internationalt samarbejde dér, hvor disse uheld mest sandsynligt vil forekomme.
The environmental laggards could could seize on events such as this and try to use them as justification for their own poor and inadequate perform ance.
Det var mit indtryk, at Kommissionen betragtede den ret velvilligt, men siden er der ikke sket mere.
It is intolerable that some Member States have still not incorporated all the provisions of the Seveso directive into their national legislation.
Jeg ser, hvilket jeg beklager, at forureningen ikke er forbeholdt Sydeuropa.
Even before Sandoz, the Commission under my direction had taken steps to procure compliance.
I forbindelse med en katastrofe som denne vil jeg gerne have oplyst, hvad Kom missionen påtænker med henblik på beskyttelse af miljøet såvel i Nordeuropa som i middelhavsområdet? det?
After Sandoz those still in breach should require no further encouragement in that respect.
Squarcialupi (COM). — (IT) Hr. formand jeg vil minde om at vi er stillet over for en omfattende for urening fra en stor forurenende virksomheds side.
Mr President, it is only common decency for govern ments and peoples recognizing the natural world as the common heritage of mankind to show solidarity with one another in the fight against environmental despoliation and decay.
Sandoz er ikke en lille fabrik uden teknikere ; Sandoz er en multinational virksomhed med et budget, der i visse tilfælde er større end nogle små landes.
Sometimes this means combining to reduce pollution when that pollution does not directly affect us in individual communities or coun tries and using national resources to achieve rewards that would be internationally shared.
Og som de andre multinationale virksomheder, såsom Hoff man-La Roche, vil de måske være lige så generøse, når det drejer sig om at betale erstatning, som de var nærige, da det drejede sig om at bevilge midler til forebyggelse.
Taking decisions in the common good when the benefits may accrue to another generation, in another century, in another place.
Jeg vil spørge kommisæren, om han har oplysninger om udledninger af andre forurenende stoffer fra an dre store virksomheder, f.eks.
Recently Prime Minister Brundtland from Norway said this:
Endvidere vil jeg stille Kommissionen følgende specifikke spørgsmål. Under mødeperioden i december skal vi diskutere den første ændring af Seveso-direktivet.
In the future no nation should be free to pollute the common environment and inflict severe ecological damage on other States.
Vi håber, at man bevarer Kommissionens tekst — og at den denne gang ikke forringes af hr. Sherlock — men vi kunne godt tænke os, at Kommissionen fortalte os, hvad den har tænkt sig at gøre vedrørende de andre ændringer, vi forventer foretaget af dette direktiv, som jo alligevel inden for en vis fremtid skal revideres.
In fact we need a new concept of national security that goes beyond the narrow confines of military security to embrace economic and ecological interdependence and global environmental hazards.
Er De desuden enig med mig i, at ulykken hos Sandoz absolut ikke var noget isoleret tilfælde?
The Community has another operational tool which the Sandoz accident suggests might be more widely applied.
Jeg henviser til Saar, til Weser, jeg hen viser til — for et par dage siden — Maas, og vil gerne henvise til, at disse floder i sidste instans munder ud i havet.
This is the Community information system, in operation since 1981, the aim of which was to control and reduce pollution caused, for example, by oil spillages at sea.
Er De ikke enig med mig i, at der her omsider er et uomgængeligt behov for en principiel løsning?
The system involves an inventory of specialist advice and equipment which can be made rapidly available to limit the environmental consequences of an accident.
I modsat fald sidder vi meget snart her med gasmasker — hvis vi i det hele taget stadig sidder her!
Its usefulness has been demonstrated during the Mont Louis accident in the North Sea and the Patmos incident in the Messina Straits.
En principiel beslutning kan da kun betyde et absolut forbud mod produktionsmetoder, hvis produkter vi slet ikke mere må anvende. de.
I believe that we should extend the system further to cover accidents in freshwater areas, such as rivers, and the Commission services have begun work in that respect.
Det var mine spørgsmål, hr. kommissær, idet jeg vil takke Dem for de oplysninger, De gav os i Deres erklæring.
Why should the manufacturers of dangerous chemicals not install a similar form of insurance?
Jeg vil gerne stille Dem følgende spørgsmål: Mener De, at Fællesskabet kan gøre sin indflydelse gælden
The Sandoz incident which has provoked great anxiety throughout the Community is only the latest in a sad catalogue.
Så spørger jeg Dem, er De ikke enig med mig i, at vi må betegne alle disse kemi-giganter som forbrydere,
For centuries the poisoning of drinking water supplies has very properly been one of the most serious crimes imaginable.
Passer det, hvad der skrives i pressemeddelelser, at det forurenede slam har brug for yderlige otte år for igen at blive rent? Betyder det, at vi i endnu otte år vil stå tilbage med følgerne af dette spørgsmål?
Will the Commission take steps to ensure that instead of an effective machinery to cope with the aftermath of diasasters, there is effective prevention so that such disasters do not occur again?
Andet spørgsmål, passer det, at Sandoz' oprindelige forsikringsselskab havde krævet, at oplagringen skulle sikres bedre, og at Sandoz derefter tog et nyt forsikringsselskab?
Why has the Seveso directive only recently been implemented in Denmark, the United Kingdom and Italy, why is it not yet fully in force in Germany and not yet or only inadequately implemented in other countries?
Netyder det ikke, at forsikringsselskaberne har kendskab til tet risikoen, men de kompetente myndigheder ikke?
Will a Commission task force ascertain which safety measures the Member States have introduced for their rivers, coasts, but above all for the North Sea?
Ulburghs (NI). — (NL) Hr. formand, kommissæren har sandsynligvis også hørt, at fru Smit-Kroes, minister for trafik og offentlige arbejder i Nederlandene, har sagt, at der ved forureningen af Rhinen i Nederlandene alene allerede er forvoldt skade for 12 millioner gylden. Men det er materiel skade.
To the Commissioner's remarks I would add that the environmental impact assessment which this House voted through and which has been adopted by the Council would have been of some assistance, as he has already hinted.
Skaden på miljøet, skaden på Rhinens symbolik, Europas enhed, poesien, båndet mellem befolkningerne er endnu større. Hvad har Rhinen gjort forkert?
I would also add that some of the provisions of the Seveso directive which are currently being revised would have helped.
Hvis De er indbudt — jeg ser, at De er indbudt, for De nikker, og det glæder mig — optræder De så også i Parlamentets navn?
I would recommend the Has chern system as a warning to firemen.
Det skaber et bånd mellem Parlamentet og Kommissionen.
No less than four fire-brigades were involved in this very serious fire.
Sandsynligvis vil andre grupper også gøre det.
The Haschem system might well have prevented that.
Så kommer der en seriøs debat, og så kan De være talsmand for et demokratisk valgt Parlament om et af de vigtigste miljøproblemer i Europa.
Finally, my colleague here has asked if the Commissioner could give his opinion on whether something comparable to the IAEA might be set up in order to give international cooperation where these incidents were likely to occur.
Tredje spørgsmål, anger er god, også hos de schweiziske myndigheder, men der må træffes foranstaltninger.
We are no longer prepared to accept official attempts to play down such events and allay our fears.
Hvad skal Rhin-staterne og EF gøre for at forhindre det?
Our rivers, lakes and seas are too precious.
Og i tilslutning til det, hr. Muntingh sagde, hvornår kommer De med Deres store direktiv om dumpning, ikke alene i havet, men også i floder ne?
LENTZ-CORNETTE (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, the Commissioner has just said that the problem is not a new one.
Det spurgte vi om under den sidste debat om vandforurening.
The Rhine is constantly polluted, and we should keep our own doorsteps clean.
Dengang sagde De, at det ikke var så særlig nødvendigt, nu ser De, hvor strengt nødvendigt det er!
Not far from here France has for years been dumping potash salts into the Rhine, and others further upstream do the same, perhaps to the same degree.
Wurtz (COM). — (FR) Hr. formand, kommissærens erklæring rejser interessante spørgsmål, men de på Zurich-mødet trufne beslutninger forekommer os ikke at være på højde med de alvorlige problermer, der affødtes af Basel-katastrofen.
SQUARCIALUPI (COM). — (IT) Mr President, I wish to recall that we are facing a case of large-scale pollution produced by a large polluter. Sandoz is not a small factory without technicians; Sandoz is a multina tional with budgets that sometimes exceed those of certain small States.
Muntingh (S). — (NL) Hr. formand, ulykker er de bølger, der presses op af en brådsø af miljøvanrøgt.
I should like to ask what was decided yesterday by the environment ministers in Zurich?
Vi må derfor også i mindre grad se på ulykkerne, men på de grundlæggende problemer med vand, jord- og luftforurening.
The Commissioner said this was a preliminary meeting, with a second one to follow on 19 December.
Det har slået mig, at kommissæren til dels har gjort medlemsstaterne ansvarlige for manglende lovgivning.
In other words it will be more than a month before we are told anything.
Jeg vil kræve Kommissionen til ansvar og spørge — bemærk vel Kommissionen, ikke kommissæren, jeg kender hans gode hen sigter — hvornår den endelig tager miljøproblemet alvorligt og skaffer tilstrækkelige penge og midler til generaldirektorat XI for endelig at føre en politik. Det er mit spørgsmål!
I should like to ask the Commissioner whether he has any information regarding the discharge of other pollutant substances by other large firms, such as for example Ciba-Geigy, which is appears may have taken this opportunity to discharge further tons of harmful products into the water.
Forurenerne skal betale, det siger sig selv, men hvis dette rimelige krav ikke ledsages af foranstaltninger, der tager fat om ondets rod, er jeg alvorligt bange for, at det økologiske system i Rhinen aldrig igen vil komme sig efter det forfærdelige slag, det netop er tilføjet.
How are the stocks held by the chemicals industry, above all the raw, semi-processed and processed chemical products stored close to the Rhine, to be monitored in future, and by whom?
Kommissæren sagde dengang: Nej, det vil jeg ikke.
In Warna on the Black Sea an accident cost the lives of 19 people.
Jeg vil først se, hvad der kommer ud af dette.
Bad though this accident was, we have to say that the Rhine incident has not killed anyone.
Har kommissæren måske nu skiftet mening, og vil han nu gøre noget mere ved det?
It is in the interest of us all that the Rhine should recover so that we have a clean river again in a few months' time.
Jeg stiller derfor tre korte spørgsmål til kommissæren.
I should like also to ask the Commission the following specific questions.
For det første : Kan Kommissionen give os nær mere oplysninger — eventuelt skriftligt — om, hvor dan bestående konventioner og direktiver på miljøområdet konkret iværksættes, og hvordan gen nemførelsen kontrolleres.
I should then like to know how far the directive has been applied in other States, and I should like to contradict what Mrs Weber said : the Italian Government did indeed say that it had conformed to the Seveso directive; in reality, it did nothing of the kind.
Jeg tænker ganske særligt på Sevesodirektivet.
It presented two old laws that cannot in any way be adapted to the Seveso directive.
For det andet: Har Kommissionen fremsat forslag til Rådet om strengere regler og udkast til konventioner med tredjelande, som Rå det ikke hidtil har gjort noget ved, og hvis ikke, hvor når regner Kommissionen da med at gøre det?
SHERLOCK (ED). — Mr President, firstly, may I welcome virtually everything that has been reported at this very early stage by the Commissioner. As he has observed we are going to have to await much more detail.
For det tredje: Har Kommissionen til hensigt at foreslå en virkelig grænseoverskridende varsling og informa tion samt en eventuel organisation af hjælp til befolkningen, der er tilpasset økonogiske katastrofer som den netop indtrådte?
I must say that although none of the Member States represented in the European Democratic Group have the riparian problem of those who live alongside one of Europe's greatest and most problematical rivers, from the point of view of pollution we share their anxieties and wish to take this opportunity to express
Endelig vil jeg spørge kommissæren, om det er sandt, at der har været virksomheder ved Rhinen, som har gjort brug af lejligheden til yderligere at udlede ekstra af fald i Rhinen?
These are the questions, Mr Commissioner, with my thanks at the same time for some of the indications that you gave us in your statement.
For vort vedkommende ønsker vi, at Fællesskabet og dets medlemsstater i fremtiden vil føre en europæisk miljøpolitik, der fortjener sit navn.
He is right to say that in so tragic a matter we must all show solidarity.
Bombard (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, da jeg tager ordet som den næstsidste taler, er der selvfølgelig en hel del af de spørgsmål, som jeg ville stille, der allerede er stillet.
We need, firstly, an automatic safety and alarm system — the present one in the event proved inadequate — and secondly, we need a monitoring system, which necessarily implies human operators, because these stores were not supervised.
Jeg vil derfor koncentrere mig om Rhin-ulykken. ken.
On this matter I think there are quite a few things to be said.
Kuijpers (ARC). — (NL) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, jeg vil gerne pege på, at der mellem i dag og i morgen ingen forskel er.
DUPUY (RDE). — (FR) I would remind the Commissioner of my report on the Mediterranean Basin, which was adopted unanimously.
Man har allerede så ofte advaret imod lignende miljøproblemer.
I think the Commission was relatively favourable towards it, but there has been no follow-up so far.
Vi må derfor stille spørgsmålet: Hvad vil blive det næste miljø problem, vi skal behandle?
It is apparent, alas, that pollution is not confined to Southern Europe.
Hr. kommissær, i denne forbindelse vil jeg gerne stille tre konkrete spørgsmål.
A catastrophe like this prompts me to ask what the Commission intends to do to protect the environment both of Northern Europe and of the Mediterranean Basin?
Det bliver imidlertid dyrt.
What has the Rhine done wrong?
Jeg kommer derfor til at tænke på det, som fru Squarcialupi sagde: Sandoz er rigt, Schweiz er rigt, og landet har skylden, selv om andre indu strier sikkert har udnyttet denne ulykke til at gøre lige så.
My question to the Commissioner is: Are you invited to the meeting in Rotterdam on 19 December next at which the Environment Ministers of the riparian States, the Netherlands, Germany and France, are to meet the Swiss Minister?
For det første, vil Kommissionen arbejde med at opstille en fortegnelse over alle mulige problemer desangående i hele det europæiske samfund?
If you are invited — I am glad to see from your nod that you are — will you be attending in the name of the Parliament as well?
For det andet, vil Kommissionen have mod til at træde frem i retten i forbindelse med en biologiske rydning, som Rhinen vil forårsage i de næste ti år?
That will be a link between Parliament and the Commission.
For det tredje, hvad vil Kommissionen gøre for at tvinge de med lemsstater, der ikke efterlever de eksisterende direktiver om miljøforanstaltninger, til det?
I shall table a motion for a resolution for a topical debate in the December partsession.
Jeg tænker i denne forbindelse på den belgiske stat.
Probably other groups will do the same.
Det, der i dag sker med Rhinen, kan i morgen ske med Maas eller Schelde, for som følge af den belgiske statsstruktur efterleves disse direktiver ikke.
Then there will be a serious debate and it will be possible for you to speak on behalf of a democratically-elected Parliament on one of the most important environmental questions in Europe.