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Derfor beder jeg Dem på vegne af min gruppe, der i sluttet trop vil stemme for dette ændringsforslag, om at holde Dem for øje, at vi påstår at være en arbejdsdygtig forsamling, der i dag tager det første skridt hen imod den nødvendige reform, og jeg henstiller til alle mandlige og kvindelige kolleger, for
LAGAKOS (PPE). — (GR) Allow me a supplementary question. I would like to ask the Council if it is aware that in Thrace, a county in my country, Greece, there are moslems of Turkish origin — and that is a condition stipulated by the Treaty of Lausanne — as is reciprocally the case in Constantinople, Imbros and Tenedos where, however, the people concerned are not called Greeks but 'Roum' in Turkish, and any Greek there who dares to call himself a Greek is hauled off to prison.
Visse medlem mer modsætter sig den, fordi de mener, at det væsentlige på dette sted er muligheden for at udtrykke sig med alle midler.
My question to the Council, Mr President, is this: is the Council aware that in that
De er ikke interesserede i at styrke Parlamentets indflydelse, hvad de vil, er at lade deres egen stemme høre.
WOHLFAHRT. — (FR) I agree that we could discuss human rights at great length.
Men også i dette tilfælde vil jeg sige, at hvis vi ikke er i stand til at tage dette første skridt, så vil vi heller ikke være i stand til at tage det andet og det tredje, og at en form for maksimalisme i virkeligheden gavner tilhængerne af status quo, dvs. tilhængere af den nuværende situation.
I think the whole House is aware that human rights must be respected in the Community and throughout the world, as must the rights of minorities. I have nothing to add at this stage.
Klepsch hvem dette forslag ikke er vidtgående nok, at betænke, at det, som vi gør, netop er at tage dette første skridt.
WOHLFAHRT. — (FR) I shall try to be brief. The two divergent opinions or approaches to this matter show that there are problems at different levels.
For så vidt drejer det sig her om alle parlamentsmedlemmers rettigheder og i særdeleshed om deres, der af én eller anden grund er i mindretal i deres gruppe, men som ønsker, at plenarforsamlingen får lejlighed til at tage stilling til deres forslag.
I think Mrs Ferrer is referring mainly to the situation in Eastern Europe, where there is a demographic deficit, whereas the honourable Member refers principally to the rest of the world, where the situation is entirely the opposite, and where there is a population explosion with all its social implications.
Jeg anser det ikke for ansvarligt på forhånd at afslutte hele proceduren i forbindelse med reformen af vor forretningsorden i dag. Af denne grund beder jeg alle betænke, at denne afstemning er af stor betydning for Parlamentets fremtidige arbejde.
In view of the fact that during the Italian Presidency the Ministers for Social Affairs examined the issue of demographic trends in the Community and their serious consequences at several Council meetings and that at their last meeting, in December 1990, the Italian memorandum on this matter was forwarded to the Luxembourg presidency, can the Council now say what action it plans to take in the field of family policy with a view to overcoming the growing demographic deficit ?
Vi erkender, at dette er en yderst vigtig afstemning og et beskedent skridt hen imod en lettelse af Parlamentets arbejdsbyrde.
I also think the Community has accepted its responsibilities, not just in coming to the aid of third world countries within the Lomé Convention, but also in considering further efforts for the countries of Latin America and Asia, for which a ten-year programme is planned.
Det vil i virkeligheden føre til, at arbejdet bliver bedre tilrettelagt på plenarmødet.
I think we would therefore welcome an initiative from the Commission producing an overall approach to both the problems raised by Mrs Ferrer and those raised by the honourable Member. .
Og lad nu være med at fortælle os, at der stadig står den mulighed tilbage, at hvert parlamentsmedlem indgiver sine forslag i hvert udvalg.
WOHLFAHRT, President-in-Office of the Council. — (FR) My reply will be very brief.
Det gælder ved begyndelsen af udvalgenes arbejde, men hele Parlamentet skal dog tage stilling til det endelige produkt i den sidste ende.
The Council is in fact aware of the importance of demography to the life of societies and on the economic and social situation in Community countries.
Det er om dette endelige produkt af udvalgsarbejdet, vi stemmer på plenarmødet, og det drejer sig om ændringsforslag til dette endelige produkt.
The Council invites the honourable Member to note that it is up to the Commission, within its right of initiative, to approach the Council with possible proposals on this subject.
Hvis vi ikke vil have, at alle udvalg bliver til separate ørepublikker, der behandler alle deres emner så at sige inden for hjemmets fire vægge, så at enhver steges i sit eget fedt, må vi dog i det mindste give plenarforsamlingen den mulighed, at alle parlamentsmedlemmer taler med og stemmer med for dette forum. Derfor vil vi ikke have, at alt indtil den mindste detalje afgøres i udvalg, og at sagsbehandlingen så er slut.
FERRER I CASALS (PPE). — (ES) This laconic reply will none the less give rise to a question to the Commission asking for some initiative to be taken in this direction; although family policy is doubtless in principle the responsibility of member states, and I am aware of that, demography is a problem which affects the whole Community.
Betænkningen og de ændringsforslag, der er stillet til den, indebærer, at individuelle medlemmer opnår ret til at stille ændringsforslag i udvalg, som de ikke er medlemmer af.
I think Community action is called for in that measures to offset the demographic deficit differ significantly between member states.
Det er et fuldstændig nyt element i forretningsordenen, og vi hilser det velkomment.
We need only recall, for example, the miserable family allowances in Spain, which are less than ECU 2 a month.
Ifølge betænkningen skal der ske en intensivering af de specialiserede udvalgs behandling af de tekniske og detaljerede lovgivningsmæssige ændringsforslag, der ikke bør lægge beslag på Parlamentets tid i mødeperioderne.
CALVO ORTEGA (LDR). — (ES) I have to say that I was disappointed by the Council's reply, because family policy may well fall within the Commisson's competence, but the reasons for falling birth rates are a matter for the Council, and that is the problem.
Min gruppe vil støtte alle ændringsforslagene som et beskedent skridt hen imod en reform af Parlamentets arbejdsmetoder.
While we dig ourselves in here, as the Council has, kicking the ball into touch, to use a sporting metaphor, and saying it is the Commission's problem, we are not approaching a solution.
Vi glæder os imidlertid til at se mere radikale reformer såsom forslag om, at Parlamentet kun skal have ét hjemsted, og at dets møde perioder skal være uafbrudte.
Given the current housing policy of the member states, which has nothing to do with the Council, and given the dichotomy between family life and the professional life of women, the birth rate will continue to fall ; this will not be an immediate problem, as there are still young people unemployed, but in 15 years or so we shall see where it is leading us.
De kan stemme imod dette forslag, De kan afholde Dem fra at stemme, men De kan overhovedet ikke stemme for.
WOHLFAHRT. — (FR) I think the honourable Member misunderstood me.
Hvad resten angår, kunne vi uden videre have bifaldet Rogalla-betænk-ningen, men ændringsforslag nr. 13 bør forkastes af Parlamentet, dvs. det må ikke få de 262 stemmer. Hr. formand, jeg beder Dem allerede nu fastslå, om det virkelig opnår det nødvendige antal stemmer eller ej.
On the other hand, we must make clear distinctions: it is one thing to produce as the Council has done a list of the causes of the demographic deficit, but concrete action is another thing.
Gollnisch (DR). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, jeg troede ellers, jeg kendte denne forretningsorden.
PRESIDENT. — Question No 3 by Mr McMahon (H-0171/91)
Jeg har læst den igen, jeg har læst betænkningen af hr. Rogalla, jeg har læst ændringsforslagene, og jeg forstår mindre og mindre af det hele.
What decisions were made regarding the Community's Sugar Regime at the Agricultural Council in Brussels on 21 and 22 January and in particular what decisions were taken about sugar refining?
Langer (V). — (DE) Hr. formand, også vi er overbeviste om, at det i det foreliggende tilfælde drejer sig om en vigtig afstemning, og det viser den stærke ophidselse i mødesalen.
ELLIOTT (S). — This is an issue that concerns me, although I suspect in a rather different way than Mrs Ferrer.
Imidlertid hersker der stadig tvivl om disse mekanismer, og derfor vil jeg gerne tage fat på det centrale spørgsmål i denne noget surrealistiske debat.
WOHLFAHRT, President-in-Office of the Council. — (FR) Mr President, in reply to Mr McMahon's question on sugar, I can inform the honourable Member that at its meetings on 21 and 22 January 1991, the Council agreed by qualified majority to extend the provisions of the Community's current sugar regime to the sugar years 1991-1992 and 1992-1993.
reform, og hr. Klepsch har over for os fremstillet det som det første skridt i den rigtige retning. Jeg mener, at dette skridt og denne minimalreform går i den helt forkerte retning.
exceptions: first, a 50% reduction in the refund of storage costs for C sugar, which would be carried over from one year to the next in the light of its abolition from 1 July 1993; and second, the continuation of the progressive dismantling of the amount of national adaptation and which Italy is authorized to grant.
Hvis man skal tilkøbe sig Parlamentets effektivitet ved at beskære dets demokratiske rettigheder, så mener jeg, at der er tale om noget, som er forkert.
I should like to point out in this context first that the amount of adaptation aid Italy is authorized to grant will be set at 70% of the overall financial commitment in ecus for the sugar year 1988-1989, and that the aid will go both to farmers and to the processing industry.
Netop på et tidspunkt, hvor vi utrætteligt prædiker demokrati i de østeuropæiske stater, kan vi ikke selv gøre det modsatte.
Second, I would point out that the amount of adaptation aid the United Kingdom is authorized to grant to the preferential raw cane sugar refining industry will be set at 90% of the figure for the 19901991 sugar year.
Den retning, som reformen peger i, skal begrænse retten til at tale i forbindelse med afgivelse af stemmeforklaring.
I should also like to comment on the outcome of the Council's deliberations on this Commission proposal.
Da det allerede er blevet almindelig praksis, at der fremsættes kompromisforslag, skal beslutningsforslag fra de mindre grupper i praksis overhovedet ikke mere sættes under afstemning.
In the light of differences of opinion on certain parts of the proposal, the Presidency suggested at the Council session on 21 and 22 January 1991, the simple extension of the provisions currently in force, but with reductions in the levels of Italian and British national aid.
Formændene for den socialistiske, den kristeligdemokratiske og den konservative gruppe forelægger os et ændringsforslag, der har til formål at få indført en procedure, som skal tvinge parlamentsmedlem merne til først at forelægge deres ændringsforslag for udvalgene.
With regard to the refining industry, the current Community sugar regime has been extended for the next two years with the exception of the reduction in the amount of British national aid.
Derfor opdager vi dem nu, og folk som jeg, der — så vidt det er muligt — forsøger at gøre sig fortrolige med forretningsordenen, har endnu ikke — det tilstår jeg — erkendt alle virkningerne. gerne.
Moreover, I would recall that the provisions of Chapter IV of the basic regulation 'sugar — preferential import regimes' have been extended unchanged.
Derfor tror jeg, at det er nødvendigt at være forsigtig.
Let me also comment on the main provisions relating to the raw sugar refining industry.
Vi kan ikke stemme for dette ændringsforslag. I konsekvens heraf kan vi desværre heller ikke stemme for det forslag — der ikke desto mindre var udmærket — som vor kollega hr. Rogalla havde udarbejdet med så megen stædighed.
Preferential raw sugar, originating in the AEP states and refined in the Community, together with raw sugar imported from third countries or certain ACP countries, at a reduced levy for refining in Portugal, receives Community aid to give it similar access to refining.
Hvis nu også retten til at indgive ændringsforslag på plenarmødet indskrænkes, kan man sige: I fremtiden kan hr. Klepsch og hr. Cot mødes i enrum og aftale afstemningerne indbyrdes, idet de hver for sig bringer det stemmetal med, som de har i deres grupper, og alle andre bliver efterhånden reduceret til kun at være statister og dekoration.
Raw cane sugar, originating in the French overseas departments and refined in the refinery, receives a further refining subsidy to re-establish the balance between the price of sugar and that of preferential sugar.
Dette er en katastrofal udvikling, og vi må ubetinget passe på, at sådan noget ikke sker. Jeg kan så kun sige: Brems det i starten!
What advice would the Council give to the sugar producers in the UK, particularly the sugar-cane workers, who may be out of a job, given that the margins are not being maintained at a sufficient level ?
Jeg kan kun opfordre kollegerne til at erkende, at der her er tale om en meget vigtig og fremtidsorienteret afgørelse.
What assistance would the Council care to suggest to the ACP countries which depend on the production of the cane sugar and selling it to the Community for their livelihood ?
Men den må i intet tilfælde blive truffet på den måde, som hr. Cot og hr. Klepsch har sagt, og det gælder i øvrigt ikke blot for ændringsforslag nr. 13, men også for ændringsforslag nr. 10.
What action are the Council and the Commission going to take to deal with the surplus of 2.8 million tonnes which we have produced under the current arrangements for sugar ? It is 2.8 million over what we should have.
Van der Waal (NI). — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg har alvorlige indvendinger mod de foreslåede ændringer i forretningsordenen.
LANE (RDE). — First of all I compliment the President-in-Office on his comprehensive reply. I do not quite go along with all that Mr McMahon has said.
Lad der ikke herske nogen misforståelse om, at også jeg naturligvis mener, at Parlamentets aktiviteter må have et hensigtsmæssigt forløb.
Naturally, I have a great concern for the producers of cane sugar but my main concern is for producers of sugar beet within the Community and the possible effects on them over the next few years.
Det har vi for øvrigt bidraget til, for det er ikke Løsgængerne, som har overstrømmet Parlamentet med ændringsforslag.
The Commission has produced a proposal that would reduce the institutional price of sugar by 5% for the coming year.
Muscardini (NI). — (IT) Hr. formand, jeg forsøgte at få ordet, også før vi gik over til stemmeforklaringerne, men jeg havde ikke heldet med mig, muligvis fordi mødesalen var lidt oprørt og urolig.
I should like the President-in-Office to make a comment as to what effect a 5% reduction of institutional prices would have on the actual price of sugar beet to the producer of sugar beet within the Community.
Her er der argumenteret for, at de individuelle medlemmers rettigheder gennem ændringsforslaget stillet af formændene for de store politiske partier ikke i nogen som helst henseende bliver begrænset, men det er teori.
WOHLFAHRT. — (FR) I should like to try to give the honourable Member further information in response to his oral question.
Enhver må erkende, at det i praksis på grund af tærsklen på 23 underskrifter først og fremmest for Løsgængerne gøres umuligt at stille ændringsforslag i plenarforsamlingen.
First, a comment on the expiry of the sugar quotas : the quota system set out in Community Regulation No 17/85/81, on the common organization of the market in the sugar sector, expires on 30 June 1991.
Men hvad er meningen med en rettighed, hvis den ikke kan udøves?
But I must be honest with him. I can make no comment now on the effects.
På papiret begrænser forslagene alle medlemmers rettigheder på samme måde, men i praksis er de særligt ugunstige for Løsgængerne.
If you wish, I can do so in writing, but I am unable at the moment to give you the figures you want.
Sandsynligvis skyldtes denne uro også en udtalelse fra Dem, hr. formand.
Let me recall too the aims of the Commission proposal for a new sugar regime.
Henvendt til et gammelt medlem sagde De: »De bør kende spillets regler«. Jeg mener, at mange af os, deriblandt vedkommende medlem, ikke er her for at spille, vi er ikke interesseret i spillets regler, men derimod i frihedens og demokratiets regler, og derfor også i muligheden for at have forretningsordensregler, der ikke er en skabe lon, der tilpasses af den, der fører forsædet, eller af de stærke grupper i dette Parlament.
In October 1990, the Council received a Commission proposal for the sugar years 1991-1992 and 1992-1993, during which there is provision for a re-examination of the basic regulation in the light of the effects of the single market, the GATT negotiations, the end of the transitional period for Spain and Portugal and the decisions on stabilisers relating to other crops.
Jeg henvender mig derfor til de medlemmer, der på dette sted vil give udtryk for deres vælgeres frie tanke, der har fået til opgave at være talerør for
The essence of this proposal was an extension of the current provisions, but with two
Piermont (ARC). — (DE) Hr. formand, hr. Cot har sagt, at det i dette tilfælde drejer sig om en minimal
SCOTT-HOPKINS, Sir James (ED). — Would the President-in-Office agree that we are importing from the ACP countries 1.4 million tonnes of cane sugar?
Muscardini betragtninger, der ikke blot falder sammen med partiernes og de politiske gruppers.
When the moment comes for renegotiation, does he think that figure ought to be reduced in light of the surplus we have at home?
Hvis vi stemmer for denne bestemmelse, vil vi opnå, at den mangel på demokrati, der præger vort Parlament, der er udelukket fra lovgivningsmagten, yder ligere bliver en mangel på medlemmer.
Successive Presidents-in-Office of the Council have repeatedly tried to explain here over the years that the Council had no competence to answer questions on intergovernmental cooperation between the Twelve, for which, as its name implies, only member states are competent under present Community law.
Disse vil jo ikke længere frit kunne udtrykke deres tanker og repræsentere borgerne, men kun give udtryk for de politiske flertalsgruppers mening.
We may regret it, but those are after all the rules of the game, which must be respected until and unless they are changed.
Indstilling ved andenbehandling (dok.
PRESIDENT. — Question No 4 by Mr Galland (H-0176-91)
(Formanden erklærede den ændrede fælles holdning for godkendt)
Subject: Free movement of persons
Ewing (ARC). — (EN) Hr. formand, dette må være det mest ubehøvlede og mindst høflige demokratiske forum i hele verden. Se på alle dem, der snakker privat og hænger rundt omkring. Ingen hører efter.
The creation of an area without internal frontiers in 1993 will require checks at external frontiers to be stepped up, which will in turn mean strengthening intergovernmental cooperation, in particular on combating terrorism, drug trafficking and other illicit trafficking.
Indstilling ved andenbehandling (dok.
I cannot forecast the results.
A3-16/91) fra Udvalget om Økonomi, Valutaspørgsmål og Industri politik vedrørende fælles holdning fastlagt af Rådet (dok.
Let me just stress, if I need to, that the work is taking place, as the honourable Member is aware, in the appropriate framework, which is an intergovernmental diplomatic conference with participation of the twelve member states, and without representation of the Council as an institution.
C3-21/91) — SYN 210) med henblik på vedtagelse af et direktiv om indbyrdes tilnærmelse af med lemsstaternes lovgivning om afskærmningsanordninger til visse motorkøretøjer og påhængskøretøjer dertil (Ordfører: Peter Beazley)
The interinstitutional conference which took place on 5 March, one week ago, allowed the twelve member states to meet a delegation from the European Parliament, including eminent members of this House, so as to inform them of the work of the conference, and to hear the views of the Parliament.
(Formanden erklærede den fælles holdning for god kendt)
I hope this evening's reply will give him even more satisfaction than last time.
(Inden afstemningen om ændringsforslag nr. 13)
You may rest assured that I shall do my best, Mr Galland.
Cot (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, dette ændringsforslag udgør en helhed, og aftalen er bygget over en ligevægt.
It is thus in this new framework, reflecting a spirit of openness and cooperation between states and the European Parliament, that the justified concerns of Mr Galland could receive, if not an answer, then at least favourable attention.
Det er klart, at hvis blot et enkelt element blev skilt ud, så ville ændringsforslaget være ubrugeligt. ligt.
I assure the honourable Member that I shall pass on his concern, which I personally share.
Jeg gør den gruppe, der anmoder om opdelt afstemning, opmærksom på dette forhold.
He mentioned that I was interested in this problem.
Det vil sige, at den i virkeligheden søger at forpurre reformen som helhed.
In fact, Mr President, I have put 52 questions to the Commission and the Council on this basic question of the Schengen agreements and free move ment of persons and the problems it involves, since, as you said, the deadline is very close.
Jeg tror, at vi skal have tingene på det rene.
We now have 20 months.
La Pergola (S), formand for Energi, Forsknings- og Teknologiudvalget. — (IT) Under forhandlingen mandag aften om hr. Sanz' betænkning fik Parlamentet at vide af Kommissionen, at denne i morgen ville afgive en erklæring om drøftelserne her i møde salen.
You set out the premisses of my question, but there was a conclusion: what concrete factors in the European judicial area will have to be in place by 1 January 1993, and what is the timetable ?
Giscard d'Estaing (LDR). — (FR) Hr. formand, med Deres tilladelse vil jeg — som svar til hr. Cot — ganske kort minde om baggrunden for denne historie. rie.
You reply that the Council is not represented and that you cannot forecast the results.
Vi har støttet og støtter fortsat betænkningen af hr. Rogalla. Der er blevet udarbejdet et ændringsforslag, som et flertal af gruppeformændene har under skrevet.
Let me say first that I am pleased to note the interest the honourable Member takes in the free movement of persons within the Community, and its natural corollary which is the strengthening of checks at external borders, and in the measures which will have to accompany the freedom of movement to combat terrorism, drug trafficking and other illicit trafficking.
En enkelt gruppe — det er dens ret — har ændret dette forslag og føjet en supplerende bestemmelse til det.
I would ask the honourable Member to accept that the Council is as concerned as he by the approach of the 1993 deadline.
For at gøre det muligt for udvalgsmedlemmerne og for alle Parlamentets medlemmer at tage stilling til Kommissionens erklæring, efter at denne er afgivet, vil jeg på Energi, Forsknings- og Teknologiudvalgets vegne og som udvalgets formand stille forslag om, at hr. Sanz' betænkning bliver henvist til fornyet udvalgsbehandling i henhold til forretningsordenens artikel 103. Dette er det forslag, jeg stiller Parlamen-
Without wishing to go into an argument which could be as ftuitless as unpleasant, and if I understand the language of the question, the honourable Member himself directs his attention to intergovernmental cooperation, which he mentions in the following terms : 'The creation of an area without internal frontiers in 1993 will require checks at external borders to be stepped up, which will in turn mean