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Fru formand, hvis man, som man så ofte gør her i denne forsamling, udpegede antallet af medlemmer i et ad hoc-udvalg eller af en delegation under anvendelse af d'Hondt-princippet, således at visse grupper ikke blev repræsenteret, så tror jeg, at dette ville være det samme som en åbenlys krænkelse af vor institutions ånd og bogstav.
Page 8 of the Happart report states — and I have looked at all the versions, including those in the other languages, thinking that this might have been a mistake in the Italian version — that Parliament approves that document 'having regard to the opinion of the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection'.
Formanden. — Jeg har fra de kompetente italienske myndigheder modtaget en anmodning om ophævelse af hr. Pannellas immunitet.
I must inform my colleagues and the President that Parliament cannot vote on that opinion because it has never been given, since the Committee on Agriculture decided to submit the document in question for discussion without waiting for the opinion of the Committee on the Environment.
Endvidere har jeg fra de kompetente græske myndig heder modtaget en anmodning om ophævelse af hr. Roumeliotis' og hr. Tsimas' immunitet.
Both the methods used until now, and the timing of the above request, prove the truth of what I say, since as you know my country is in a pre-election period and the putrid campaign of scandal-mongering is unfortunately once more in full swing and is subrogating calm political debate and planned argument. As a
Roumeliotis (S). — (GR) Fru formand, kære kolleger, jeg vil først og fremmest beklage, at Parlamentet anmodes om at beskæftige sig med mit personlige anliggende af en sådan art og i en tid, hvor så alvorlige problemer af historisk betydning optager Parlamentet.
PANNELLA (NI). — (FR) Madam President, you have said that this comes under Rules 109. I do not know whether you are referring to paragraph 3 or 2, but I would appreciate a clarification.
tilbage til Italien, er det aldrig — jeg tror, det drejer sig om syv tilfælde — nogensinde sket, at retsvæsenet sidenhen har gjort, hvad det bad om at få mulighed for at gøre.
I wish to tell you, Madam President, and this House that all the requests to waive parliamentary immunity which have been granted — I think there have been seven such cases — that when the persons concerned have returned to Italy the judicial authorities have then never done what they said they would.
Derfor endnu en gang, jeg beder naturligvis om at blive udleveret til det italien ske retsvæsen.
So once again, I ask that I be put at the disposal of the Italian judicial authorities.
Men, fru formand, der er alligevel en ting, jeg må sige.
But, Madam President, there is one thing I must say.
I dette tilfælde vil jeg anmode Retsudvalget om at notere sig én ting.
If my immunity is waived I shall ask the Legal Affairs Committee to take note of one thing.
Jeg kan se, at den tidligere formand for vore kolleger og den tidligere formand for den nationale Sammenslutning af italienske dommere er til stede her i dag.
I see here the former chairman of our committee and the former president of the national association of Italian magistrates. trates.
Det er min påstand, fru formand, at når der er tale om bagvaskelse og om personers ret til et image og en identitet, så dømmer hele dommerstanden — ikke blot denne eller hin italiener — konstant og uden undtagelse uden om straffelovens regler, og at jeg derfor, hvis jeg, sådan som jeg ønsker det, blev udleveret til det italienske retsvæsen, ville blive domfældet helt arbitrært af dette retsvæsen, som systematisk undlader i noget tilfælde at respektere reglerne for en særlig per direttissima-proces, som i dette tilfælde skal følges.
Having said that, Madam President, the fact that eight political groups have banded together to continue to obstruct the work of this House, that the delegations involved remain silent, that this veritable obstruction of the work of parliamentary delegations continues through increasing the number of committees, that the application of the D'Hondt system or the equivalent continues, all this is an attempt to prevent all parliamentarians and all political groups from making their contribution. The principle of representativity should be more important and take precedence over the principle of proportionality, whereas with the principle of proportionality D'Hondt Mark II a large and a good part of this House is prevented from working.
Situationen er altså ret intrikat.
Madam President, I think this proposal is most unfortunate.
Jeg vil insistere på, at denne ophævelse bliver bevilget, kære kolleger, men De skal også vide, at vi vil stå fast på, at Retsudvalget skal analysere situationen i Italien, for så vidt angår immunitet, for når vi bevilger immunitetsophævelse, så går det italienske retsvæsen ikke videre, og det synes jeg er en alvorlig sag. Det er mig en stor glæde med min holdning at have fremkaldt en situation, hvor dette nu måske definitivt kan bevises.
I wish it to be known, Madam President, that when it comes to defamation, of the right to personal reputation and identity, the judicial authorities, and not just one or other individual Italian, regularly and without exception pass judgment outside the rules established by the penal code, and that therefore if I am summoned before an Italian court, as I hope to be, I shall be judged in a purely arbitrary fashion by this justice which does not respect the rules of an individual case per direttissima which ought to be followed in this case.
Fru formand, kære kolleger, med al respekt for Deres frie vilje og for den selvstændighed, Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlem mernes Immunitet har, vil jeg gerne rette en appel til Dem: Jeg beder Dem imødekomme anmodningen om ophævelse af min immunitet, så jeg får lejlighed til over for en græsk domstol at forsvare min ære, som så uretfærdigt og så længe har været krænket. De ser nemlig her i dette øjeblik et eksempel på politisk forfølgelse.
And so the question will be tricky. I shall do my best to ensure that this request for waiver is granted, ladies and gentlemen, but I shall also insist, Madam President, that the Legal Affairs Committee analyses the situation in Italy on immunities because when a waiver is granted the Italian judicial authorities do not proceed in a proper manner, which I think is a very serious state of affairs.
Såvel den fremgangsmåde, der er anvendt indtil nu, som det tidspunkt, der er valgt til at fremsende denne anmodning, viser sandheden af mine ord, idet mit land som bekendt står foran et valg, og en tarvelig skandale-hetz iværksættes endnu en gang og erstat ter rolig politisk tale og velovervejede argumenter.
We have of course looked into the matter and what you have said also applies to other people whom I shall also call to speak in the unlikely event that they wish to do so.
Formanden. — Hr. Pannella, ligesom med hr. Roumeliotis tager vi denne redegørelse til efterretning som en personlig bemærkning.
PRESIDENT. — Mr Pannella, your personal statement, like that of Mr Roumeliotis, has been noted.
Pannella (NI). — (FR) Det, jeg gerne ville sige, fru formand, er, at jeg synes, at jeg på en vis måde har fortrinsret her.
PRESIDENT amendments to Bureau proposals are admissible provided that they are tabled by at least 13 Members, this procedure can be adopted.
Jeg tror, at jeg har udvirket — og jeg mener virkelig udvirket — undertiden med udfoldelse af stor energi, som når jeg insisterede i Retsudvalget for at overbevise kolleger, der stadig var usikre, om, at min immunitet bør ophæves.
6 p.m. before the vote on the substance of the question, namely before voting on the setting up of this committee and on the candidates which will be put forward by the political groups.
Jeg vil gøre Parlamentet bekendt med, at i forbindelse med samtlige tilladelser, samtlige de ophævelser, vi har bevilliget, i samme øjeblik de er vendt
You can of course speak as long as you like on the comments which you made a moment ago, Mr Pannella. However, it will be deducted from your speaking time in the debate on the vote this evening.
Listen over kandidater vil blive offentliggjort snarest.
The larger groups do not have a monopoly of the talent in this House.
Europa-Parlamentets forhandlinger
Lastly, the hallmark of any democratic Parliament is the way they treat minority groups.
Pannella (NI). — (FR) Fru formand, De annoncerede, at det er ifølge artikel 109.
BEAZLEY, Peter (ED). — Madam President, when do you intend to start with the business of the day ?
Jeg ved ikke, om det er stk. 3 eller stk. 2, men jeg vil gerne have det belyst.
We have already spent nearly 35 minutes on other business.
finde sted uden videre.
Is that what you wish to do ?
Den er ikke varslet, og jeg synes, det ville være passende at tage en afstemning herom.
It was not announced beforehand and I think this should be put to the vote.
For resten kan jeg kun tilslutte mig, hvad hr. Pannella siger.
All the same, I can only endorse what Mr Pannella has said.
Det står fuldstændig klart, at den aftale, der er indgået mellem otte grupper i forsamlingen, og som følgelig udelukker et vist antal min dretalsgrupper, hvis man anvender den matematiske regel for proportional tildeling af pladser, risikerer at udelukke — vi ønsker stadig at tro vore kollegers intellektuelle hæderlighed, men det får vi besked om om nogle få øjeblikke — de samme mindretalsgrupper.
It is quite clear that the concertation of eight political groups of this House, thereby excluding a certain number of minority groups, means that the number of delegates, if the mathematical rule of proportional distribution of seats were applied, would be such that these same minority groups could well be excluded from the committee — we still want to believe in the intellectual honesty of our parliamentary colleagues, but it will be put to the test in a few minutes.
Alt det er en klar omgåelse af proceduren, ligesom det for øvrigt er en klar omgåelse af proceduren at nedsætte ad hoc-udvalg på områder, hvor de stående udvalg tydeligvis er fuldt ud kompetente, hvad enten det drejer sig om Udvalget om Institutionelle Spørgsmål, om Udvalget om Eksterne Økono miske Forbindelser eller om Udvalget om Økonomi, Valutaspørgsmål og Industripolitik.
All that boils down to a clear manipulation of procedure, as indeed is further witnessed in the creation of ad hoc committees in areas where the standing committees, whether the Institutional Affairs Commit tee, or the REX Committee, or the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and Industrial Policy, are clearly the committees responsible.
Vi kan derfor slet ikke se det nyttige i dette forslag, medmindre meningen da, som det har været set før, måske skulle være den beklagelige, at man vil udelukke et vist antal mindretalsgrupper eller løsgængerne fra at deltage i arbejdet med disse spørgsmål, der er af så stor betydning for Parlamentet.
Consequently we see no purpose whatsoever in this proposal other than an attempt, as we have unfortunately seen in the past, to exclude a certain number of minority groups or non-attached members from participating in the work on issues of such crucial importance to this Parliament.
Fru formand, jeg synes, dette er et uheldigt forslag. Det er mit håb, at vi ikke bliver bedt om at stemme om det.
LANGER (V). — (DE) Madam President, my group has not as yet been able to form an opinion on this matter, as it has taken us by surprise.
Langer (V). — (DE) Fru formand, vores gruppe har ikke kunnet danne sig nogen mening om dette emne, fordi vi er meget overrasket over Deres meddelelse. lelse.
GOLLNISCH (DR). — (FR) Certainly, for it is not my group's fault if an amendment to the agenda has been surrepticiously concocted by the main groups.
Jeg er nødt til at minde Dem om det.
PRESIDENT. — No, it will be taken at six p.m.
Det er det min pligt at minde Dem om.
I just announced that.
Vi hører ikke til de grupper, der er blevet rådspurgt i den forbindelse, og som er medunderskrivere af forslaget.
We are not one of the groups which was consulted on this and which signed the proposal.
Jeg vil derfor anmode Dem om at være så venlig at sige os, under hvilket punkt på dagsordenen De putter det ind, og hvornår fristen for at afgive forslag om eventuelle kandidater udløber, for indtil nu ved vi kun, at otte grupper har ansøgt om at kunne nedsætte et sådant udvalg i overensstemmelse med artikel 109, stk. 2.
Would you therefore be kind enough to tell us where this item will be entered on the agenda and when the deadline for nominating candidates will expire, given that all we know so far is that eight groups have requested the setting-up of such a committee in accordance with Rule 109(2).
Vi ved ikke, hvad Parlamentet vil beslutte, hvor mange medlemmer dette udvalg skal have, og hvornår tidsfristen for at stille forslag om eventuelle kandidater udløber.
We do not know what Parliament will decide, how many members the committee is to have or when the deadline for the nomination of candidates expires.
I øvrigt vil jeg udtrykke vor forbløffelse over, at en så vigtig beslutning, der prakker Parlamentet et nyt organ på, bliver taget på falderebet, bliver meddelt om formiddagen kl. 10.30 og skal være besluttet allerede om eftermiddagen kl. 18.00.
I wish further to express our astonishment that a decision as important as this, which will have the effect of 'landing' Parliament with a new committee, should have been taken just in passing, made public at 10.30am and adopted by 6pm.
Det er i det mindste usædvanligt, at Parlamentet lægger sig ny organer til i et sådant lyntempo, når opgaverne endnu er helt uafklarede.
It is to say the least unusual that Parliament should set up new committees whose responsibilities have not been defined at such break neck speed.
De bemærkninger, De fremsatte for lidt siden, hr. Pannella, kan De naturligvis udfolde så udførligt, De måtte ønske.
PRESIDENT. — Ladies and gentlemen, I have a proposal to make to the House.
Det vil tælle med i Deres taletid i debatten efter aftenens afstemning.
We could vote on the inclusion of this topic on the agenda this evening at
Gollnisch (DR). — (FR) Fru formand, jeg tror, der er tale om en ændring af dagsordenen.
GOLLNISCH (DR). — (FR) That is quite out of the question.
Efter min mening kan denne ændring af dagsordenen ikke
We cannot vote at 6 p.m. on an amendment to the agenda which would mean a vote on the substance of the proposal at 6.02 p.m. ; that would mean Members being robbed of their right to table amendments.
I aften, kl. 18, før vi skal stemme om sagens kerne, dvs. før vi udtaler os om nedsættelsen af dette udvalg og om de kandidaturer, grupperne har fore lagt os, kan vi stemme om, hvorvidt dette spørgsmål skal optages på dagsordenen.
The document before us is in breach of the Rules because they only allow for one single vote which should be on both the principle of setting up this temporary committee, its terms of reference and its composition, all in the one document.
(Bifald fra De Europæiske Hojepartiers Tekniske Gruppe)
(Applause from the Group of the European Right)
Ewing (ARC). — (EN) Jeg vil godt tilslutte mig de bemærkninger, der blev fremført af De Grønne i Europa-Parlamentet, og sige, at min lange erfaring i Parlamentet har vist, at flertal ikke høster anerken delse, når de prøver at misbruge, mishandle og udelukke mindretal. De større grupper har ikke monopol på talent her i Parlamentet.
Recent political trends in the Republic of South Africa give us every reason to turn our attention also to that subcontinent and to feel pleased that today that important part of the world too is moving, we hope irreversibly, towards full democratization, freedom and progress.
Formanden. — Hr. Gollnisch, det er mit indtryk, at det forslag, jeg for lidt siden fremsatte, imødekom mer de ønsker, forsamlingen har givet udtryk for.
PRESIDENT. — Mr Gollnisch, it seems to me that the proposal I made a moment ago was in accordance with the wishes of the House.
Der var ganske rigtigt tale om, at jeg meddelte en ændring af dagsordenen.
We are dealing with the announcement of a change in the agenda.
Jeg skal hermed oplyse Dem om, at vi kl. 18 stemmer om ændringen af dagsordenen.
I would inform you that we shall vote at 6 p.m. on the amendments to the agenda.
Jeg tager det fulde ansvar ...
I shall take responsibility...
(Afbrydelse fra Gollnisch)
(Interruption by Mr Gollnisch)
Peter Beazley. — (ED) Fru formand, hvornår agter De at begynde dagens arbejde?
The debate will be held, Mr Gollnisch, if the House decides on it.
Jeg skal erindre Dem om, at ifølge forretningsordenen har medlemmerne ikke mulighed for at få ordet flere gange til samme emne.
I would remind you under the Rules Members may not speak several times on the same topic.
Hvis vi holder os nøje til forretningsordenen, ...
If we apply the Rules strictly,...
Kære kolleger, jeg tager ansvaret for at indlede vores debat om aktuelle og uopsættelige spørgsmål.
Ladies and gentlemen, I here and now decide to begin the debate on urgent procedure.
Formanden. — Jeg takker Dem for Deres indlæg, hr. Beazley, men det er formandens opgave at overholde forretningsordenen.
Let us rejoice therefore that following the courageous speech of President De Klerk on 2 February, the African National Congress, the United Democratic Front and other political organizations have been legalized.
Hr. Gollnisch, ønsker De på ny at afkorte den tid, der er til aktuel og uopsættelig debat? Tør De godt tage ansvaret for det?
On the other hand we must strongly advise all parties involved in this process not to try to impose economic solutions which, as recent history has once again proved, have failed completely.
Hr. Gollnisch, jeg gentager endnu en gang den procedure, jeg har foreslået.
Mr Gollnisch, this is the procedure I am proposing.
Kl. 18 bestemmer for samlingen suverænt, om vi skal optage dette spørgsmål på dagsordenen eller ej.
At 6 p.m. the House will decide whether or not to include this item on the agenda.
Hvis beslutningen er positiv, stemmer vi om, efter hvilket princip dette udvalg skal sammensættes, og vi fastsætter en frist for at stille ændringsforslag til udvalgets sammen sætning.
If it decides to do so we shall vote on the principle of the membership of this committee and we shall fix a deadline for tabling amendments to the membership of the committee.
Hr. Gollnisch, vi har undersøgt spørgsmålet i lyset af artikel 109 og artikel 110, stk. 2.
Mr Gollnisch, we have studied the matter in the light of Rules 109 and 110(2).
Aktuel og uopsættelig debat
Topical and urgent debat
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er forhandling under ét om seks forslag til beslutning om Sydafrika:
PRESIDENT. — The next item is the joint debate on six motions for resolutions on South Africa :
B3-318/90 af Capucho m. fi. for Den Liberale og Demokratiske Gruppe om den positive udvikling i Sydafrika;
B3-318/90 by Mr Capucho and others, on behalf of the Liberal, Democratic and Reformist Group, on positive developments on South Africa;
B3-324/90 af Lucas Pires m. fl. for Det Europæiske Folkepartis Gruppe om Sydafrika;
B3-324/90 by Mr Lucas Pires and others, on behalf of the Group of the European People's Party, on South Africa;
Jeg skal minde Dem om, fru formand, at der i medfør af artikel 109, stk. 2, ikke kan finde en afstemning sted om princippet om nedsættelse af denne delegation og derefter en afstemning om dens beføjelser eller dens sammensætning.
LUCAS PIRES (PPE). — (PT) Madam President, ladies and gentlemen, the European People's Party thinks that the situation in South Africa is changing profoundly and irreversibly on the road to peace and democracy.
B3-364/90 af Dillen m. fl. for De Europæiske Højrepartiers Tekniske Gruppe om udviklingen i Sydafrika;
B3-364/90 by Mr Dillen and others, on behalf of the Technical Group of the European Right, on developments in South Africa;
B3-375/90 af Simons m. fi. for Den Socialistiske Gruppe om Sydafrika;
B3-379/90 by Mr Colajanni and others, on behalf of the Group for the European Unitarian Left, on South Africa ;
B3-379/90 af Colajanni m. fl. for Gruppen for Den Samlede Europæiske Venstrefløj om Syd afrika;
B3-3 87/90 by Mrs Ewing and others, on behalf of the Rainbow Group, on Community initiatives to create a fair and just society in South Africa.
Capucho (LDR). — (PT) Fru formand, vore tanker har i de seneste måneder været rettet mod den politiske udvikling i Central- og Østeuropa næsten som en besættelse omend af naturlige og forståelige årsager.
CAPUCHO (LDR). — (PT) Madam President, in the past few months our political preoccupations have been almost obsessively concerned — although for natural
Frigivelsen af Nelson Mandela, afskaffelsen af dødsstraffen og legaliseringen af anti-apartheidbevæ-gelserne er faktisk ikke småting; det er tværtimod de første skridt til Sydafrikas nye historie.
The release of Nelson Mandela, the suspension of the death penalty and the legalization of anti-apartheid movements are by no means insignificant; on the contrary they are the first steps in a new history for South Africa.
Jeg vil gerne komplimentere hovedpersonerne for udvist mod, navnlig præsident De Klerk og Nelson Mandela, hvis gode vilje og ønsker om forandringer ingen kan drage i tvivl.
I am glad to salute the courage of the two main authors of these measures, President De Klerk and Nelson Mandela, whose good faith and proposals for change cannot be doubted.
Der bør stadig lægges pres på den sydafrikanske regering, men den bør også opmuntres til at starte ophævelsen af de racistiske love og af hele apartheidsystemet.
Although it is necessary to keep up pressure on the South African Government, it is now also fair to encourage it to start the dismantling of the racist laws and the whole system of apartheid.
Alle må forstå, at det værste i den aktuelle situation er at standse midtvejs.
Everyone must understand in the present situation that the worst thing would be to stop half way.
Den nu frie Nelson Mandela og det legaliserede ANC-parti bør også gøre en indsats for at nå til fred og en hurtig forhandling om en demokratisk forfatning for Sydafrika.
Nelson Mandela and the ANC, whose release and legalization respectively we greatly welcome, must also work towards peace and the rapid negotiation of a democratic
At tale om vold og for handlinger samtidig der er der ingen mening i.
There can be no sense in speaking of violence and negotiations at the same time.
Vi tror i øvrigt, at tiden er mere til opmuntring end til sanktioner.
We think, moreover, that it is now more appropriate to encourage South Africa than to impose sanctions.
Den seneste udvikling i de politiske begivenheder i Den Sydafrikanske Republik retfærdiggør til fulde, at vi også skænker dette subkontinent vor opmærk somhed, og at vi glæder os over, at også denne region i dag er skueplads for en proces, som vi ønsker kun skrider frem i retning af fuld demokrati sering, frihed og fremskridt.
Nor can we begin this debate without welcoming the fact that political freedom of action has finally arrived for the democratic mass movement in South Africa, for banned organizations from the ANC to the PAC and indeed the banned South African Communist party, thanks to which the voices of the oppressed are able to make themselves heard, as well as the fact that 33 banned and restricted organizations such as the United Democratic Front are finally able to operate freely again.
Det glæder os at erfare, at i fortsættelse af præsident De Klerks modige tale den 2. februar er Den Afrikanske Nationalkongres, Den Forenede Demokratiske Front og andre politiske organisationer blevet legaliseret.
Having said that, let me move on to the current situation and stress that I consider President De Klerk to be a sensible man, and the changes he has set underway are to be welcomed.