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Ved at skelne mellem almennyttige og erhvervsdrivende foreninger beskæftiger de sig med en foret enkelt land typisk foreningsform, der ikke forekom­mer i de andre lande, og det kan frembyde forskellige farer ved at give medlemsstaterne mulighed for at skelne.
These statutes ensure that it is possible to preserve both the operating characteristics and the values specific to the social economy, notably the principle of primacy of the person and non-distribution of profits.
Jeg ønskede at give Dem disse tal for at vise sektorens betydning for europæisk erhvervsliv.
V. a regulation on the statute for a European mutual society (COM91) 273 — C3-124/92 — SYN 390);
Vi påpeger den store forskel mellem pen­sionskasser og forsikrings­ eller kreditvirksomhed, der ikke altid følger samme tankegang.
To comment in greater detail on each of these statutes, insofar as I have time, let me first say, regarding the
Andre problemer venter os især i forbindelse med beskatning og finansiering inden for disse sektorer.
regulation and directive on associations, that I am in favour of keeping to the compromise that we voted in committee and therefore against all the amendments tabled by Mr Menrad and Mr Janssen van Raay on behalf of the EPP.
Endelig vil jeg gratulere den nye kommissær med udnævnelsen og udtrykke ønsket om, at det frugtbare samarbejde, vi havde med hans forgænger, må fortsætte fremover.
In making a distinction between a non-profit association and an economic association, they refer to a type of association that is very specific to a single country and not to be found in any of the others; there are a number of risks attached to allowing Member States to make such a distinction.
FORSÆDE: Nicolas ESTGEN Næstformand
I think the voting will go very quickly.
Det er rigtigt i 1993 at skabe supranationale retsformer for visse selskabsarter i forbindelse med det indre marked.
My third point concerns the social provisions in these three proposals.
THYSSEN (PPE), ordfører for udtalelsen fra Udvalget om Økonomi, Valutaspørgsmål og Industripolitik. — (NL) Hr. formand, som ordfører for udtalelsen fra Økonomiudvalget vil jeg gerne pege på, at vi ikke har behandlet dette forslag ud fra dets juridiske, men snarere ud fra dets økonomiske fortjeneste.
We were somewhat taken aback to find these social provisions here because we know — and Commissioner Bangemann made this point here at the end of last year — that they were the main problem to be resolved with the European company.
Nationalt er de nævnte selskabsformer allerede opstået i forrige århundrede som supplement til og i nogen grad som modstykke til kapitalselskaber, især aktieselskaber.
We were annoyed that management and labour had not been consulted and that the provisions were not identical to those for the European company.
Institutioner og principper som selvhjælpstanken, per sonlig formålssammenhæng og omkostningsdækning i stedet for gevinstmaksimering har stået deres prøve i de forskellige europæiske lande.
We were disconcerted by the fact that the smallest SMUs, which traditionally have a totally different relationship with their staff than the big firms, were not excluded.
En første bemærkning vedrører tidspunktet, hvor disse forslag er blevet os forelagt.
My fourth comment takes the form of a question.
Der er jo stadig ikke truffet nogen beslutning vedrørende det europæiske aktieselskab, og det forlyder, at meningsforskellene på rådsplan går på fundamentale valg, der også er på tapetet i den nuværende sag.
Why did the Commission not use this opportunity to present proposals for a European private company and to set up a cooperation structure for the liberal professions?
Store dele af forordningsforslaget om den europæiske forening minder snarere om et kapitalselskab.
On mutual societies, we made extensive efforts to find a solution that would be applicable to all without putting certain national specificities in question, even though, I repeat, we are talking about optional arrangements here.
Der tages ikke hensyn til det forhold, at der findes foreninger, der fortrinsvis er erhvervsdrivende, og andre, der hovedsagelig er almennyttige.
So we made it quite clear that these arrangements do not apply to basic social security schemes managed by mutuais, such as in Belgium.
For kulturelle foreninger, sportsklubber og velgørenhedsorganisationer indeholder forordningen for mange detaljer.
Nor do they apply to certain mutuais, in France for instance, serving specific sectors, such as the teaching profession.
Europæiske borgeres ret til foreningsfrihed og subsidiaritetsprincippet kræver større vedtægtsautonomi — for slet ikke at tale om årsregnskabsproceduren og offentliggørelsen.
And we underline the important distinction between providence and other activities — insurance, credit, etc. — in which, it is true, the logic is not always the same.
Kommissionen tager for lidt hensyn til de særlige kendetegn ved det gensidige forsikringsselskab på den ene side og på den anden side sygekasserne, blandt andet med hensyn til risikodækning, kontrolordning, stiftelsesfonds, kundekreds og dividende.
We have done our best by tabling amendments, but we really are not completely satisfied and regret that we were unable to get down to work as we would have liked to.
Der er svage rester tilbage af vore ændringsforslag, ændrings forslagene fra Økonomiudvalget, i minimale kompromis ændringsforslag, og jeg håber, at Kommissionen i det mindste vil overtage disse.
In conclusion, Mr President, I wish to call on the Council to examine these texts as quickly as possible once Parliament has delivered its opinion, and invite the Commission to encourage and assist the Council in this task.
Den beviser i alle henseender de dårligst stillede i vort samfund en tjeneste hermed.
After that, other problems, in particular those of taxation and finance in these sectors, will be waiting for us.
De kan og bør behandles som handelsselskaber — med hensyn til statusopgørelse, men også de ansattes medindflydelse.
It is right to establish, in connection with the 1993 internal market, supranational legal structures for certain types of association.
Men det gælder ikke for andre foreninger.
IN THE CHAIR: MR ESTGEN Vice-President
Vi var vrede over, at arbejdsmarkedets parter ikke var blevet hørt og også over, at bestemmelserne ikke er de samme som de bestemmelser, der er indeholdt i de sociale bestemmelser i det europæiske selskab.
The structures in question developed at national level in the last century to supplement and, to some extent, provide an alternative to companies limited by shares, in particular corporations.
Vi var bestyrtede over, at den allermindste lille eller mellemstore virksomhed, som traditionelt behandler sit personale helt anderledes end de store virksomheder, ikke var udelukket.
Institutions and principles — such as the concept of self-help, objectives based on the individual, cost-covering rather than maximizing profits — have proved their worth in various states of Europe.
Det har vi stillet et ændringsforslag om, og vi håber, at dette ændringsfor slag bliver vedtaget, således at de sociale traditioner også kan blive respekteret på dette område.
For that reason, the Committee on Social Affairs, Employment and the Working Environment has pro posed a few amendments to the initiatives of the Commission which are very much geared to corporations; these amendments are designed to prevent the original social policy objectives of the cooperatives, mutual and other societies receding too far into the background.
Hvad de ansattes medindflydelse angår, er de foreslåede modellers manglende ligeværdighed et centralt problem i alle tre direktiver.
My first comment is on the timing of the submission of these proposals.
De spænder lige fra de ansattes deltagelse i bestyrelsen som i den tyske lov om medbestemmelse til simpel oplysnings- og høringsret.
No decision has yet been taken on the European company and the Council is apparently divided on fundamental issues which are also relevant to this subject.
En fjerde bemærkning er et spørgsmål.
Our second comment refers to the number of company structures proposed.
Der er stadig problemer tilbage. Der er stadig mange uløste spørgsmål.
No account is taken of the fact that there are associations which are principally engaged in economic activity and others whose main objective is not an economic one.
Med ændringsforslagene prøver vi på
As far as cultural associations, sporting associations and welfare associations are concerned, too many details are laid down in the regulations.
BONTEMPI (S). — (IT) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne understrege dette øjebliks betydning. I særlig grad for
The right of European citizens to freedom of association and the principle of subsidiarity require greater autonomy in matters of for-
Det så dog ud til, at dette samarbejde stødte på uovervindelige hindringer som følge af mangelen på et passende fælles juridisk instrument. ment.
MENRAD between 5 and 7 million people in Italy are employed in the social sector.
Parlamentet, som nu ser sin lange indsats i form af Fontaine- og Vayssade-betænkningerne, som allerede nævnt, bære frugt.
mation — not to mention the procedure for annual accounts and disclosure.
Nu vil jeg først og fremmest sige, at dette resultat er vigtigt fordi det lever op til organisation SEDAG, som i 1989 frivilligt blev oprettet af foreninger ne, og hvis formål var at opnå europæisk anerkendelse.
Under the regulation, the fourth, seventh and eighth company directives are to apply here; that means that all associations are, for instance, told how much they may lay aside.
Derfor anmodede vi i vore forslag om, at denne mangel måtte blive afhjulpet.
But that is justified only in the case of associations engaged in economic activity.
Behøver jeg mon at gøre opmærk som på, kære kolleger, at vi måtte vente i fem år, før vore henstillinger blev imødekommet.
They can and should be treated as commercial companies — in regard both to accounting and employee participation.
De tre pågældende sektorer har med rette ønsket egne statutter, så der tages hensyn til deres respektive særpræg.
The same does not, however, apply in this context to other associations.
Et svar får vi i teksten, der er afslutningen på ordføreren, fru Vayssades, jeg gentager udmærkede arbejde, og fra samarbejdet med Kommissionen, hvis åbenhed har gjort det muligt, så vidt jeg kan skønne, at foretage betydelige ændringer i den oprindelige tekst — jeg mindes blandt andet foreningsstatutten, hvor der er givet store muligheder for at oprette europæiske foreninger.
It means that we must never forget — especially when we look at certain trends emerging in Europe — the useful ness of the associations and cooperatives, i.e. of forms of self-organization by the citizens in a democratic frame work, the contribution this makes to the active participation of the citizens in the common weal because, thanks to their structure, flexibility and renewability they man age to find highly original solutions even to new problems. lems.
Den opgave, der gik ud på at tage hensyn til hver af disse virksomhedstypers problemer i deres helhed, var dristig, det må man erkende, i betragtning af forskelligartetheden af medlemsstaternes respektive lovgivninger — der ikke måtte drages i tvivl — og under hensyntagen til det forhold, at begrebet forening ikke alle steder dækker helt identiske situationer.
Lastly, the protection of the individual and the fundamental values of coexistence in society are in a sense genetically present and decisive factors in this sector. I think we must move ahead, which means involving the public treasury, taking concrete measures.
Man har allerede fremhævet mængden: der er tale om store tal. Jeg vil blot understrege, at med hensyn til foreninger er de tal, som fru Vayssade gav, betydningsfulde — at for eksempel i mit land, Italien, er 14 millioner mennesker organiseret enten i andelsselskaber eller i gensidige selskaber, foreninger eller stiftelser, og at mellem 5 og 7 millioner mennesker i Italien arbejder i den sociale sektor.
Addressing myself to the Commissioner — whom I see here today for the first time and who is also, like myself, an Italian — I believe that one of the best ways of achieving an objective is to embark on practical activities in that sector, given also that your departments have shown themselves most willing to define a useful frame work.
Til trods for forsinkelsen skal Kommissionen og ordføreren have en varm tak for at have taget denne store opgave op og for i dag at foreiægge os nogle forslag, som vor gruppe alt i alt betragter som tilfredsstillende.
As far as employee participation is concerned, a central problem in all three directives concerns the failure to apply the same standards in the proposed models.
Selv om kvantiteten er af stor interesse, må man ikke desto mindre fremhæve kvaliteten.
This must be countered by adopting the relevant amendments.
Hvad vil kvalitet sige?
Only thus will our citizens continue to accept the Community.
Det er af denne grund, at vor gruppe på dette vanskelige punkt har stillet nogle ændringsforslag, der bygger på subsidiaritetsprincippet og vidner om tillid til de enkelte medlemsstaters lovgivning.
FONTAINE (PPE). — (FR) On 14 March 1987, ladies and gentlemen, we adopted what at the time appeared a somewhat unusual report that I had the privilege of laying before the House on behalf of the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights.
Vi mener nemlig, at den bedre og på mere velegnet vis kan tage hensyn til det nationale foreningslivs særpræg. Jeg håber derfor, at disse ændringsforslag må blive vedtaget.
In that report we said that associations in our countries felt deeply concerned by the imminence of the single market and, more generally, the process of European integration.
Men måske kan kommissæren give os nogle nærmere oplysninger og berolige os ved at fortolke nogle af bestemmelserne?
We said that their apparent exclusion under Article 58 of the Treaty of Rome was an anachronism and their desire for crossborder cooperation ought to be encouraged.
Det er et alvorligt spørgsmål, og vi bør være klar over betydningen af den indsats og den dynamik, der skabes af disse forordninger, som markerer en fase i europæiske foreninger, andelsselskaber og gensidige forsikringsselskabers udvikling.
However, the situation at the time was that there were insuperable obstacles to such cooperation, for lack of an appropriate Communitywide legal instrument.
Idet jeg lykønsker kommissæren — som jeg ser her for første gang i dag, og som jo også er italiener som jeg — vil jeg sige, at en af de bedste måder at målrette en udnævnelse på er at sørge for konkrete handlinger i denne sektor, også i betragtning af den store villighed, som hans tjenestegrene har vist ved udarbejdelsen af en egnet ramme.
We will find an answer in the text that will be the product of the work — which, I repeat, is excellent — done by the rapporteur Mrs Vayssade, and the cooperation of the Commission, thanks to whom it proved possible, I believe, to make major changes to the original text — and here I am referring in particular to the statute for associations, which offers a wide margin for forming European associations.
Det er min overbevisning, kære kolleger, at de tre sektorer takket være disse samarbejdsinstrumenter effektivt kan bidrage til den europæiske opbygning, til udvik ling af vækkelse og uddybning af europæisk nationalfølelse og til at puste nyt liv i disse sektorers vigtige sociale mission.
Better late than never, though, and we cannot but be delighted that we are today being presented by the Commission with three proposals for regulations defining European statutes for what are known as social economy enterprises, in other words associations, cooperatives and mutual societies.
Vor gruppe glæder sig derover og stemmer for fru Vayssades betænkning.
Each of these sectors justifiably wanted its own statute, so that its specific characteristics could be taken into account.
FONTAINE (PPE). — (FR) Den 14. marts 1987 vedtog vi, kære kolleger, en på daværende tidspunkt noget usædvanlig betænkning, som jeg havde fornøjelsen at forelægge på vegne af Udvalget om Retlige Anliggender og Borgernes Rettigheder.
Taking all the concerns of each into consideration was a stiff challenge, it has to be said, given the diversity of our countries' legislation in the field — which could not be called in question — and the fact that what was under stood by an association was not exactly the same in all countries.
I den sagde vi, at medlemslandenes foreninger følte sig stærkt berørt af det nært forestående indre marked og mere generelt af den europæiske opbygning. Vi sagde, at den udelukkelse, som Rom-Traktatens artikel 58 syntes at isolere dem i, var en anakronisme, og at deres ønske om grænseoverskridende
The quantitative importance of these measures has already been pointed out: their scale is enormous.
Erfaringerne i forskellige lande taler sit klare sprog, men der kunne eventuelt opstå tvivl om, hvorvidt de erhvervsdrivende foreninger kan bevare samme vægt med virke liggørelsen af det indre marked og dettes ønskværdige åbning mod tredjelande.
raised by our German colleagues: how to strike a balance between the constraints of transparency and the need to avoid imposing excessive demands on the multitude of small associations which already had to contend with very difficult conditions and depended, in their essential ly social activities, on volunteers' admirable efforts, which might otherwise be discouraged.
En sådan tvivl er imidlertid ubegrundet, tværtimod inde bærer det indre marked en udfordring, der må imødegås ved, at de muligheder og det potentiale, der ligger i erhvervsdrivende foreninger, får endnu større vægt.
The additional legislative proposals about the rôle of workers in the undertakings we are considering are particularly to be welcomed.
Da de på mange områder nyder godt af, at borgere med de mest forskelligartede kvalifikationer investerer kunnen, fantasi, arbejdsindsats og ansvarlighed i forehavendet, vil de i sidste instans byde på fordele med hensyn til effektivitet, som ikke kan opnås af store kapitalselskaber, og de er derfor en uerstattelig faktor i det sociale og politiske liv.
In view of their size and the leading part played by their members, this will be a factor, perhaps more than in any other proposals, for giving them responsibility and enriching the close participation which it is hoped to achieve and which, moreover, our experience shows, is a greater success today with undertakings of this kind.
snes år vist sig en række initiativer, der på betydningsfuld måde kan bidrage til erhvervsdrivende foreningers for nyelse.
Finally, without prejudice to the rules of sound competition, the proposal for setting up a European fund to help to establish such bodies is to be welcomed.
Borgerinitiativer, der skaber små finansielle redskaber til lokal udvikling, og mikroinitiativer — spareklubber og velgørenhedsspillekasser — men også egnseller landsomspændende risikokapitalselskaber samt mange spareforeninger.
Our Group is therefore proposing a number of amend ments for dealing with this tricky problem by drawing on the subsidiarity principle and putting trust in national laws.
Alle disse initiativer prøver på at investere i samfunds- og miljømæssigt nyttige produktioner eller tjenesteydelser, i virksomheder, der forpligter sig til at ansætte en betydelig del langtidsledige, forpligter sig til at respektere miljøet og til at oprette demokratiske arbejdsrelationer.
We take the view that national laws are better able to take account of the detail and specific features of the activities of associations in each country.
Alle disse initiativer er potentielle skabere af arbejdspladser i hundredtusindvis.
I hope these amendments are going to be voted.
Vist er de stadig beskedne, men i betragtning af krisen, den voksende ledighed og den store fattigdom kan udvikling af økonomisk demokrati udgøre en betydningsfuld reaktion. tion.
But perhaps the Commissioner will be able to give us some clarification and reassurance by giving us his interpretation of some of the provisions?
For at udnytte de iboende muligheder i disse foreninger er det imidlertid vigtigt at skabe betingelser for, at de kan overvinde problemerne i forbindelse med deres begrænsede størrelse.
This is a serious matter and we must appreciate how much is at stake and how much momentum can be developed by these regulations, which open up a new phase in the lives of associations, cooperatives and mutual societies Europewide.
Med europæisk anerkendelse af erhvervsdrivende foreninger håber vi, at der må opstå mange flere solidariske virksomhedsnet, dvs. virksomheder, der ikke blot mobiliserer kapitalbesidderne, ikke blot dem, der arbejder, der forbruger varer og tjenesteydelser, men mere generelt alle, der inden for et givet område ønsker at få indseende med de økonomiske valg, med produktkvalitet og med varers miljø- og samfundsmæssige virkninger.
ARCHIMBAUD (V). — (FR) Mr President, we are delighted that there can at last be political recognition of the existence of a Communitywide area for the social economy and that, soon I hope, there will be special statutes for European cooperatives, European associa tions and European mutual societies.
Af de 140 ændringsforslag, som Retsudvalget har stillet, vil vi gerne specielt fremhæve alle de forslag, der sigter mod større fleksibilitet med hensyn til virksomhedernes etablering og drift.
My Group is delighted and will be supporting Mrs Vayssade's report in the vote.
Derved får borgerne mulighed for at udvikle initiativer, der kan udgøre en konkret udfordring for den rent økonomiske opfattelse og til produktivismen samt en reaktion på arbejdsløshedens og den sociale udelukkelses udvikling.
It is a nursery of solidarity, self-help, resistance to total reliance on market forces, and putting the profit motive into perspective.
Ganske særligt tilslutter vi os de supplerende lovgivningsmæssige forslag om arbejdstagernes stilling i de omhandlede virksomheder.
It has quite definitely played an important role in, for instance, the emergence of a less inegalitarian health care system and a fairer pattern of access to the consumer market.
VAN OUTRIVE (S). — (NL) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, jeg vil begrænse dette indlæg til et tema, forordningen om det europæiske gensidige selskab, som er af meget stor betydning for den belgiske sygeforsikring inden for rammerne af den sociale sikkerhed.
PORTO (LDR). — (PT) Mr President, in a Europe which is enriched by the varied participation of its citizens, firms operating in the socalled "social economy" are of paramount importance, as is the case with associations, cooperatives and mutual societies.
Uden at det må gå ud over reglerne om sund konkurrence, skal det endelig hilses velkomment, at der stilles forslag om oprettelse af en europæisk fond til støtte for oprettelsen af erhvervsdrivende foreninger.
In this respect the experience of the various countries has been very clear, though perhaps there may be doubts whether thay can retain such importance in a market with the size of the Community market, which in its turn is in the desirable process of opening up to the outside world.
ARCHIMBAUD (V). — (FR) Hr. formand, vi er glade for, at man omsider politisk anerkender eksistensen af en plads i Europa for erhvervsdrivende foreninger, så vi forhåbentlig snart kan få en statut for det europæiske andelsselskab, den europæiske forening og det europæiske gensidige forsikringsselskab.
Since in many areas they reap the benefit of the capacity, the imagination, the commitment and the increased responsibility of citizens with the most varied qualifications, they reach efficiency levels which companies with largescale capital cannot attain, which makes them, for that very reason, an irreplaceable factor for getting the best out of the social and political fabric.
De belgiske socialistiske medlemmer har stillet to ændringsforslag.
There is one aspect in particular to which I wish to draw attention.
Hvad drejer det sig om?
The social economy is characteristically open to innovation.