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For det første, at det er naturligt, at pensionisternes forhold i selve medlemsstaterne påvirker rådsmedlemmernes holdning under drøftelser af denne art.
In its memorandum "PRIORITIES FOR THE UK PRESIDENCY", the UK Presidency states:
ROBLES PIQUER (PPE). — (ES) Jeg sætter megen pris på det korte svar, men i dette tilfælde har rådsformanden givet en ekstremt kort svar.
VAYSSADE (S). — (FR) I would first like to make it clear that this question is put in the name of all the members of the legal committee, where we have sought to follow closely the way in which the method of adjustment was implemented.
Og for det andet, som hun vil vide, så undersøger den ansvarlige gruppe. Rådets Arbejdsgruppe om Fællesskabsaflønning. disse sager meget indgående og med stor præcision og omhu.
Now that we are almost halfway through the UK Presidency can the Council provide information on the state of progress concerning this "one outstanding problem"?
For nylig er der kommet en meget fordømmende beretning om mennesker, der kræver pensioner, som de ikke har ret til, og hvad vil Rådet gøre ved det?
GAREL JONES, President-in-Office of the Council. — The presidency' is continuing its efforts to resolve this last outstanding problem.
GAREL JONES. — (EN) Det ærede medlem vil forstå, at jeg befinder mig i en noget vanskelig situation her, for jeg må tale både som repræsentant for formandskabet og på en måde også for den ene af de to medlemsstater, der er involveret i diskussionen om, hvordan man kan løse dette sidste udestående problem, vi står overfor, før vi kan ratificere konventionen om de ydre grænser.
When last year, after many debates, strikes and difficulties, the officials finally accepted this method of adjust ment, one of the reasons they accepted it was because the social side was being negotiated and I would say that there was a kind of gentlemen's agreement that this would be part of the package.
Jeg synes, det er alt, hvad jeg bør sige, for han må være klar over, at dette er en meget vanskelig sag mellem de to berørte medlemsstater, og jeg håber meget, at vi begge betragter ratifikationen af konventionen om de ydre grænser som noget, der bør prioriteres højt.
I would ask the Chair to take up all the current problems and try to deal with them so that a real spirit of openness can be demonstrated towards public officials. Will the Chair please take action before the increase of 1.50% in pension contributions, planned for 1 January 1993, is implemented?
RAWLINGS (PPE). — (EN) Dette spørgsmål om de ydre grænser dækker det samme som mit spørgsmål nr. 20, selv om det er stillet fra en anden vinkel.
ROBLES PIQUER (PPE). — (ES) Whilst I appreciate brevity, I must say that the President-in-Office's answer in this case is just a little too brief.
Mit spørgsmål til ministeren drejer sig ikke om et enkelt udestående problem, men om de varer, der toldfrit krydser de ydre grænser. Vil det britiske formandskab kunne forkynde endnu en succes ved ikke blot at afskaffe forbindelsen mellem de latterligt lave importkvoter på 45 ECU for rejsegods fra den toldfri ration, men også få beløbet op på et fornuftigt niveau inden årets udgang?
I have no wish to intervene in the British controversies which arise so frequently on both sides of this House, but I must tell the President-in-Office that a little more clarity on his part on this subject, which, clearly, has something to do with an old dispute between Spain and Britain — of which he has expert knowledge — would be useful to this House, and I am sure he can enlarge on the answer he has given us, which has so far been worthy of Seneca rather than of a President-in-Office of the Council.
GAREL JONES. — (EN) Det ærede medlem siger præcis det samme som jeg, nemlig at alle medlemsstater — den, han og jeg hører hjemme i, og andre — når de ser på disse ting, vil tage hensyn til pensionsforholdene for embedsmænd med videre, ikke bare i deres egen med lemsstat, men i andre internationale organisationer.
Second, as she will know, the group responsible, the Council Working Group on Community Pay etc., docs study these matters in very considerable depth and with great precision and care.
Det må nødvendigvis have en indflydelse på deres opfattelse.
I think, as I said in my earlier reply, that the Commission is now seriously exploring the possibility of taking further initiatives on this front and I have to leave it at that — that the ball is now in the Commission's court following the careful study that has taken place.
Hvad angår den beretning fra Revisionsretten, som han henviser til —jeg kender ikke selv til den — men hvis vi går ud fra. at den eksisterer, som han siger den gør — så vil det naturligvis være noget, som Kommissionen må se på, hvad der end måtte stå i denne beretning.
GAREL JONES. — The honourable Member will under stand that I am in something of a difficulty here because I have to speak both as the presidency and, in a sense, as one of the two Member States involved in the discussions to resolve this last outstanding problem that faces us before we are able to ratify the external frontiers convention.
GAREL JONES. — (EN) Som det ærede medlem sagde, er Rådet klar over, at den lave grænse for toldfri indførsel fra tredjelande, som jeg nu tror beløber sig til 45 ECU, er en væsentlig årsag til toldrelaterede forsinkelser for rejsende fra et land til et andet.
I think the best I can say is that the United Kingdom Government was — as I think most other Member States were — quite surprised when this matter arose at the very last moment when we were about to move to ratification of the external frontiers convention.
Det britiske formandskab erklærede i sit memorandum om sine prioriteter for formandskabet:
Second, if Mrs Vayssade is correct in saying that 1.5% is the freeze on pensions, would the Commissioner not agree that Community civil servants are better off than civil servants and public servants in the United Kingdom whose pensions are going to be frozen at 1%?
»Vi vil fortsat tilstræbe en løsning på det ene endnu uløste problem, der forsinker undertegnelsen af konventionen om passage over medlemsstaternes ydre grænser«.
My question to the minister does not concern one outstanding problem but relates to duty-free allowances crossing external frontiers.
Kan Rådet, nu da næsten halvdelen af det britiske formandskab allerede er gået, oplyse, hvordan det går med løsningen af dette »eneste uløste problem«?
Will the British presidency be able to announce another success story by not only abolishing the link between the ridiculously low import allowance of ECU 45 for travellers' goods from the duty-free allowance but also raising it to a reasonable amount before the end of this year?
ELLIOTT (S). — (EN) Spørgsmålet har at gøre med overskridelsen af ydre grænser, og jeg vil gerne spørge rådsformanden, om han ikke synes, at de rapporter, der for nylig er sivet ud fra hemmelige mellemstatslige
GAREL JONES. — The honourable Member makes the very point that I am making, namely, that all Member States — the one he and I belong to and others — will take into account, when looking at these matters, the
ELLIOTT og spørgsmål nr. 9 af Ernst de la Graete (H-l 113/92):
Question No 8 by Mr Mendes Bota (H-1079/92)
Om: Tuaregernes situation organer såsom TREVI, og som tyder på en skærpelse af Fællesskabets indvandringspolitik for borgere fra tredje lande, er et varsel om en udvikling i retning af oprettelsen af den Fæstning Europa, som mange andre lande i verden frygter, Fællesskabet forsøger at etablere.
GAREL JONES. — The Council is aware, as the honour able Member has stated, that the low limit on the third country allowance which I think now stands at ECU 45 is a prime cause now of customs-related delays for interna tional travellers.
Siden den 27. august 1992 er en række repræsentan ter for tuaregerne blevet tilbageholdt af Nigers væbnede styrker udelukkende på grund af deres etniske tilhørsforhold.
Following numerous appeals from the international community and in view of the government of Niger's failure to respond energetically to human rights violations against the Tuaregs, how much longer does the Council find it necessary to wait before suspending application of' the Lomé Convention to Niger?
I dag er situationen endnu mere dramatisk, og Rådet bedes oplyse, om det efter dets opfattelse ikke er på høje tid at træffe nogle effektive foranstaltninger.
Question No 9 by Mrs Ernst de la Graete (H-l 113/92) Subject: Situation of the Tuaregs in Niger
Jeg tror, det ærede medlem er medlem af en fagforening.
It was not in fact a point of order. 1 now give the floor to Mr Elliott for a supplementary question.
Jeg er sikker på, at når hans fagforening holder møde for at afgøre, hvad der skal være dens forhandlingsposition over for arbejdsgiverne, så mødes den i fortrolighed.
Since 27 August 1992, numerous representatives of" the Tuareg people have been detained by the armed forces of Niger for no other reason that their ethnic identity.
Det ville jeg ikke karakterisere som et hemmeligt møde, men som et møde omgærdet af fortrolighed.
On 9 July 1992, Parliament had already, in its resolution on the subject, expressed its concern at the situation of the Tuaregs and called on the Com munity "to impress on the... political forces... in Niger that the treatment of the Tuaregs in the future will have a decisive influence on the aid policies and relations of the EEC" towards that country.
En stor del af drøftelserne mellem forskellige regeringer må nødvendigvis finde sted i fortrolighed, hvis der skal kunne ske fremskridt.
In view of the even more dramatic recent developments, does the Council not consider that effective action must be taken as a matter of the greatest urgency?
Hvad angår den fri bevægelighed for personer, så ved jeg, at det ærede medlem i sin valgkreds repræsenterer et stort antal britiske borgere, der tilhører etniske minoriteter, og jeg håber, han er enig med mig i, at mens Det Forenede Kongerige har et ganske kompliceret system både med hensyn til indrejsevisa og politisk asyl og så videre, så har vi også i Storbritannien den mest omfattende lovgivning angående forholdet mellem racerne i noget land i Fælles skabet, og alt i alt mener vi i Det Forenede Kongerige, at systemet fungerer, og vi agter at opfylde vore forpligtelser, sådan som vi ser dem, for fri bevægelighed for personer, samtidig med, at vi beskytter, hvad jeg håber de fleste britiske medlemmer af Parlamentet kan tilslutte sig er et godt forhold mellem racerne i Det Forenede Kongerige, som tilmed stadig bliver bedre.
ELLIOTT (S). — The question relates to the crossing of external frontiers and I should like to ask the President-in-Office if he does not feel that the reports that have recently been leaked from secret intergovernmental bodies such as TREVI suggesting a toughening-up policy within the Community with regard to entry by third country nationals herald a move towards the creation of the Fortress Europe that many other countries in the world fear this Community is trying to create. I should also like to invite the President-in-Office, if he will, to attempt to justify the British Government's shameful refusal of entry visas to Bosnian refugees.
GAREL JONES, formand for Rådet. — (EN) Fælles skabet og dets medlemsstater følger meget nøje og med den største bekymring menneskerettighedssituationen i Niger.
GAREL JONES, President-in-Office of the Council. — The Community and its Member States arc following very closely and with deep concern the human rights situation in Niger.
De beklager de overtrædelser af menneskerettig hederne, der er sket i den senere tid, i særdeleshed de væbnede styrkers vilkårlige tilbageholdelse af over 100 mennesker.
They deplore the human rights abuses that have occurred recently, notably the extra-judicial arrest by the armed forces of over 100 people.
De opfordrer Nigers regering til at sikre, at de, der er tilbageholdt uden retsgrundlag, straks løslades.
They urge the government of Niger to ensure that those illegally detained are released immediately.
Fællesskabet og dets medlemsstater er også bekymrede over, at hæren og andre sikkerhedsstyrker i mange tilfælde har handlet på eget initiativ.
The Community and its Member Slates are also concerned that the army and other security forces have in many cases acted on their own initiative.
Samtidig er Fælles skabet og dets medlemsstater opmærksomme på de aktuelle sikkerhedsproblemer, der skyldes handlinger, som nogle tuareger har foretaget sig.
At the same time, the Community and its Member States are aware of the present security problems arising from actions by some members of the Tuareg community.
De håber, at lederne af det tuaregiske oprør vil løslade alle gidsler.
They hope the leaders of the Tuareg rebellion will release all hostages.
Kun ved at tilkendegive vilje til forsoning og genoptagelse af dialogen mellem myndighederne og oprørerne kan freden genoprettes og frie og demokratiske valg organiseres i landet.
Only by gestures of reconciliation and the resumption of dialogue between the authorities and the rebels can peace be restored and free and democratic elections in that country organized.
I den forbindelse er det opmuntrende, at regeringen har lovet at undersøge tilbageholdelsen af tuaregerne og sikre, at de kompetente myndigheder foranstalter regulære retssager, men det må sikres, at dette faktisk sker.
In this respect the undertaking by the government to investigate the arrests of" the Tuaregs and ensure proper trials before the competent authorities is encouraging, but there must be no backsliding.
FORMANDEN. — Da følgende spørgsmål vedrører samme emne, vil vi under ét behandle spørgsmål nr. 7 af Vecchi (H-1078/92):
GAREL JONES. — First, I wish that the honourable Member and some other honourable Members would stop referring to intergovernmental discussions as secret.
Mener Rådet ikke, at det er absolut nødvendigt, at der gøres noget ved Niger, f.eks. at det gøres klart for landet, at udviklingssamarbejdet inden for rammerne af Lomé-konventionen vil blive suspenderet på et nærmere angivet tidspunkt, hvis der ikke skabes retlige tilstande i landet, navnlig for så vidt angår respekten for Tuareg-folkets menneskerettigheder og borgerlige rettigheder?
So far as the free movement of people is concerned, the honourable Member, I know, represents in his constituency quite substantial numbers of British citizens who belong to ethnic minorities and I hope he might agree with me that whilst the United Kingdom has a quite elaborate system both for entry visas and political asylum etc., we also enjoy in Britain the most comprehensive legislation on race relations of any country in the Community and, by and large, we feel in the United Kingdom that that system is succeeding and we intend to fulfil our obligations as we see them for the free movement of people, whilst at the same time protecting what I hope most British Members in this House would agree is a good situation and an improving situation so far as race relations in the United Kingdom are concerned.
spørgsmål nr. 8 af Mendes Bota (H-1079/92):
PRESIDENT. — As they deal with the same subject, the following questions will be taken together:
Om: Suspendering af Lomékonventionens bestemmelser for Nigers vedkommende
Question No 7 by Mr Vecchi (H-1078/92) Subject: Situation of the Tuaregs in Niger
VECCHI (GUE). — (IT) Hr. rådsformand jeg må sige, at i teorien er Fællesskabet meget klart, når det taler om betingelser for støtte og samarbejde med lande, som har tilsluttet sig Lomé-konventionen.
VECCHI (GUE). — (IT) Mr President of the Council, I must say that in theory our Community is very clear when it talks of the conditions attached to aid and cooperation with the countries which are signatories of the Lomé Convention.
Alligevel er Fælles skabets holdning i nogle tilfælde, ja, desværre i mange tilfælde, ikke så konsekvent i forhold til disse problemer.
However, in some cases, unfortunately in many cases, the attitude of the Community does not have much influence on these problems.
Det er ganske vist klart, at det er vigtigt at beklage det; det gjorde Parlamentet bl.a. i et forslag til beslutning af 9. juli.
Of' course it is important to deplore abuses, and this Parliament, amongst others, has done so by its resolution of" 9 July.
Vi ved alligevel, at der i de seneste måneder, og især fra slutningen af august, er sket en forværring af situationen.
But we know that in the last tew months, and especially since the end of August there has been a worsening of'the situation.
Denne forværring har ikke noget at gøre med hærens kamp mod de væbnede bander, hvoraf nogle også tilhører det tuaregiske mindretal, men er en undertrykkelse af tuaregerne som sådan, da den vedrører børn, kvinder og andre mennesker.
This worsening has nothing to do with the struggle of' the army against the armed bands, some of which do indeed belong to the Tuareg minority, it is repression of' the Tuareg per se. because it affects
GAREL JONES. — (EN) Jeg forstår fuldt ud den bekymring, som det ærede medlem giver udtryk for. Samarbejdet med Niger i henhold til Lomé IV lægger faktisk hovedvægten på udviklingen af landdistrikterne
Is the Council not of the opinion that it is essential to issue a very clear warning to the government of" Niger to the effect that cooperation under Lomé IV will be suspended for a clearly specified period if' the rule of law is not restored in that country, with particular
GAREL JONES ret afgørelse angående den indflydelse.
VECCHI children, women, all kinds of people.
Jeg mener, at vi i øjeblikket holder den rette balance, men vi vil naturligvis fortsat overvåge situationen meget nøje.
I think at the moment we have that balance right but we will, of course, keep the situation under very close review.
og bistand til den private sektor.
Cooperation with Niger under Lomé IV focuses really on rural develop ment and on assistance to the private sector.
De argumenter, som det ærede medlem har fremført, må bestemt tages med i betragtning, men jeg mener ikke, at det på dette stadium vil gavne nogen at ophøre med bistanden. Det ville faktisk skade Nigers befolkning.
Whilst the arguments that the honourable Member has put forward certainly need to be taken into account, I do not think at this stage it would benefit anyone to remove this assist ance.
I det mindste i øjeblik ket mener Fællesskabet og dets medlemsstater, at man bør give Nigers regering en chance for at opfylde de løfter, den har givet om at undersøge tilbageholdelsen af tuaregerne.
For the moment at any rate the Community and its Member States believe that the government of Niger should be given a chance to fulfil the promises that it has given to investigate the arrest of the Tuaregs.
McMAHON (S). — (EN) Hr. formand jeg tager ordet til forretningsordenen og vil gerne vide, hvad reglerne er for tidligere medlemmer af Parlamentet, der kommer ind midt i spørgetiden.
McMAHON (S). — Mr President, I rise on a point of order here and would like to know what the Rules are regarding former Members of this Chamber coming in in the middle of Question Time.
Jeg refererer til en person, hr. Ferguson, tidligere medlem af Parlamentet for Strathclyde West, der er gået ud og ind ad døren dér og har talt med medlemmer af Det Europæiske Folkepartis Gruppe.
I refer to one, Mr Ferguson, a former Member of Parliament for Strathclyde West who has been going in and out of the door there and been holding conversations with Members of the EPP Group.
Jeg ved, at hr. Garel Jones undertiden ikke kan svare, men jeg synes ikke, det er nødvendigt at bringe kavaleriet ind i form af tidligere rådgivere fordet britiske udenrigsministerium.
I know Mr Garel Jones is sometimes stuck for answers but I do not think he needs to bring in the cavalry in the form of former advisers of the Foreign Office.
Jeg vil anmode Dem om at komme med en afgørelse og at få betjentene til at checke adgangskortene for medlemmer, der går ud og ind.
I would ask you to give a ruling and to get the huissiers to check the credentials of Members who are coming in and out.
Han er gået ud og ind flere gange dér bagved.
He has been coming in and out with regularity at the back here.
ERNST de la GRAETE (V). — (FR) Hr. rådsformand jeg er ikke tilfreds med Deres svar.
ERNST de la GRAETE (V). — (FR) Mr President-in-Office of the Council, I am not satisfied with your reply.
Ligesom Kommissionen har Rådet i løbet af i år taget en beslutning om at kæde menneskerettighederne sammen med bevilling af udviklingsstøtte fra Fællesskabet.
Like the Commission, the Council has, in the course of this year, taken a decision as regards the link to be established between human rights and development aid from the Community.
Det er vi adskillige her i Parlamentet, der har glædet os over.
That has been welcomed by many of us here in this Parliament.
Vi tror virkelig, det er en god ting, at Rådet faktisk viser sin vilje til at kæde spørgsmålet om menneskerettighederne sammen med udviklingsstøtten, med EF's politik for udviklingshjælp.
Indeed we believe it is an excellent thing that the Council has demonstrated its willingness to establish a link between human rights and development aid, that is, our Community's policy on development aid.
Man bør vide, at det, der for tiden foregår i Niger, ikke bare er en berettiget bekæmpelse af terroristvirksomhed, men en reel etnisk udrensning rettet mod en bestemt befolkning, og hvor der blandt de mennesker, der befinder sig i fængsel, er meget fremtrædende personer, som ikke kan anklages for noget.
It needs to be said that there is not just a very understandable repression of terrorist acts going on in Niger at the moment, there is an actual campaign of ethnic cleansing directed against a clearly defined population and there are some people in prison who are completely innocent and honourable.
Desuden er Amnesty International bekymret for deres skæbne.
And Amnesty International is concerned about their fate.
FORMANDEN. — Det ærede medlem ved ligeså godt som jeg, at forretningsordenen ikke sætter restriktioner med hensyn til medlemmernes frie bevægelighed, om de går ind eller ud af salen. Hvis De sammen med mig vil undertegne et ændringsforslag gående ud på, at kun de medlemmer, der er til stede her kl. 20.45, må stille spørgsmål, vil jeg gerne underskrive det.
PRESIDENT. — Mr McMahon, you know as well as I that there is no restriction in the Rules of Procedure on the free movement of Members into and out of this Chamber, but if you wish to propose an amendment to the effect that only those Members present at 8.45 p.m. should be allowed to put questions, I will sign it.
Jeg mener, der nemt kan træffes visse foranstaltninger, såsom at spørge regeringen i Niger, hvorfor den ikke vil tillade det internationale Røde Kors at besøge fangerne og besigtige forholdene i fængslerne.
There are certain steps that can easily be taken, for instance asking the government of Niger why it does not allow the International Red Cross to visit the prisoners and assess their prison conditions.
En anden foran staltning kunne være at se på, om myndighederne, sikker hedsstyrkerne, vil blive straffet for at have handlet uden ordrer, et forhold, som De har antydet.
Another measure would be to find out whether the authorities, the security forces, really will be punished for having acted without orders, something you have referred to.
Så vidt jeg ved, er det ikke normalt for sikkerhedsstyrker at handle på denne måde.
As far as I know, it is not normal for security forces to act in this way.
McMAHON (S). — (EN) Jeg taler ikke om nuværende valgte medlemmer. Jeg taler om tidligere valgte med lemmer.
McMAHON (S). — I am not referring to current elected Members.
Har tidligere medlemmer, der er blevet afvist af vælgerne ved stemmeurnerne, ret til at komme ind her under spørgetiden, eller vil De, hr. formand, henvise denne sag til Det Udvidede Præsidium og Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet.
Do former elected Members who have been rejected by the electorate at the polls have the right to come in here at Question Time. Or would you, Mr President, refer this matter to the enlarged Bureau and the Committee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities.