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Det glæder mig, at De har besluttet at henvise det til Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet.
PRICE (ED). — Mr President, each morning from Monday to Friday trains leave Bromley South Station for London Victoria at 8.04, 8.06, 8.11 and 8.16.
Der er et par vigtige spørgsmål, der bør stilles, når De henviser sagen.
I have just read out an extract from an official British Rail timetable.
Det ser ud, som om Lord Plumb har påtaget sig alene at teste, hvorvidt skriftlige stemmeforklaringer var relevante i dette tilfælde.
It is as relevant to this House as the material which has been read by two British Labour Members and I will read further extracts from British
Kan vi opfatte det sådan, at formanden eller næstformændene i fremtiden kritisk vil gennemgå alle stemmeforklaringer i skriftlig form?
MAIJ-WEGGEN (PPE). — (NL) Mr President, if written declarations of vote are not included that is
Maij-Weggen (PPE). - (NL) Hr. formand, når skriftlige stemmeforklaringer ikke medtages, er det noget, der må hænges ud her.
Maij-Weggen something to which objection can be made here.
Det er også et spørgsmål, der må protesteres imod, og hvis det er sket oftere, må der bestemt protesteres imod det.
It is also a matter against which protests can be made, and as it has happened several times protest can certainly be made against it.
Men det forhold, at det er sket oftere — og hr. Bombard bekræfter det endnu en gang — beviser samtidig, at det her ikke drejer sig om et specielt indgreb fra vort Parlaments formand.
But the fact that this has happened several times, and Mr Bombard corroborates that, also shows that this is a specific action on the part of the President of Parliament.
Den måde, hvorpå vore engelske kolleger her har anfægtet Lord Plumbs integritet, anser for jeg for en særlig alvorlig sag.
I think the way in which our British colleagues have cast doubts on Lord Plumb's integrity is a particularly serious matter.
Jeg vil på min gruppes vegne sige, at vi absolut ikke vil støtte dette.
I wish to say on behalf of my group that we want absolutely nothing to do with it.
Vi finder, at den slags ting ikke må udnyttes til at iværksætte et angreb mod Lord Plumb.
We think this sort of thing should not be used as an opportunity for launching an attack on Lord Plumb.
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important questions that should be posed when you do refer it.
Dankert (S). — (EN) De togplaner, som hr. Price nævnte, tror jeg ikke vi behøver at trykke, for indlæg til forretningsordenen dækkes faktisk af forretningsordenen.
Rule 98(2) makes no reference to a test of relevance by anybody — by a tribunal, by the President or by anybody else.
Om et indlæg er til forretningsordenen eller ej, er en skønssag.
It seems that Lord Plumb has taken it upon himself to test the relevance of written explanations of vote in this case.
Men jeg er nødt til at sige, at bestemmelserne om stemmeforklaringer er yderst uklare. Som jeg læser disse bestemmelser for øjeblik
Do we take it that in future the President or Vice-Presidents will vet all explanations of vote in written form?
En sidste bemærkning, hr. formand: Lord Plumb siger i sin erklæring, at han gennemgik disse skriftlige indlæg og fandt, at de ikke var relevante for det foreliggende spørgsmål. Mit var i hvert fald.
One final point, Mr President, Lord Plumb in his explanations says that he went through these written submissions and found that they were not relevant to the matter in question.
Det begyndte faktisk med, at jeg ville stemme imod den foreliggende betænkning.
In fact it started by saying that I would be voting against the report in question.
Det er ikke kommet med i det ordrette referat.
That has not appeared in the verbatim report.
Det er vigtige spørgsmål, der bør undersøges indgående i Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet. Lord Plumb har gjort sig skyldig i et groft brud på forsamlingens forretningsorden.
These are important issues that should be fully investigated by the Committee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities.
Hughes beføjelser, som er nødvendige for at føre forsædet ved alle Parlamentets forhandlinger og sikre deres gode forløb.
Mr Bombard rightly points out that we now risk ending up with a situation where everyone wants to give his explanation orally because it is printed, instead of in writing when it is not printed.
Hoon (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, vi har her at gøre med, hvad en demokratisk institution foretager sig.
HOON (S). — Mr President, we are concerned here with the record of a democratic institution.
Jeg vil gerne minde mine kolleger her om, at kampen for at få knæsat retten til at give referat af, hvad en demokratisk institution foretager sig, var en vital del af kampen for demokrati.
I would like to remind my colleagues here that the struggle to establish the right to report the record of a democratic institution was a vital part of the struggle for democ racy.
Patterson (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, det glæder mig særdeles meget, at De oplæste den artikel, for det styrker det, jeg skulle til at sige.
PRESIDENT. — Thank you Mr Danken.
Hvis mine Labourkolleger faktisk gennemlæser forretningsordenen, vil de der finde en meget strikte procedure for fortolkning af forretningsordenen.
I have already undertaken to refer this matter to the Com mittee on the Rules of Procedure. I call Mr Cot on a point of order.
Fru Crawley sagde, at andre medlemmer af forsamlingen måske ikke var enige i, hvad man satte ind i stemmeforklaringer.
Mrs Crawley said that other Members of this House might not agree with what was put in the explanations of vote.
Forholdet er, at de ikke har mulighed for at være uenige, eftersom de ikke har set, hvad der er indsat i stemmeforklaringerne.
The fact is that they do not have the opportunity because they have not seen what was put in the explanations of vote.
Den ene ste, der har haft muligheden, bortset fra dem der afgav stemmeforklaringerne, er formanden.
The only person to have that opponunity, other than those who made the explanations of vote, is the President.
En af de måder, hvorpå den kan forkastes, er, at Udvalget for Forret ningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet kommer med en fortolkning. Det er første linje efter formandens afgørelse.
The President's decision will inevitably lead to a sharp rise in the number of oral explanations of vote which will make us waste a lot of pre cious time.
Hr. Hughes nævnte spørgsmålet om relevans.
Mr Hughes has made reference to the question of relevance.
Hvor dan skal formanden kunne bestemme, hvad der er relevant, og hvad der ikke er relevant?
How is the President to determine what is relevant and what is not relevant?
Skal et med lem af denne institution, hvis opgave det er at forsvare de enkelte medlemmers rettigheder, bestemme, hvad der er og ikke er relevant?
Is one Member of this institution charged with the responsibility of defending individual Members' rights to determine what is and what is not relevant?
Jeg opfatter det sådan, at der er et reelt problem om, hvorvidt en stemmeforklaring skal være eller ikke være relevant for den afstemning, den prøver at for klare, og Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet vil se på den ting. Men for øjeblikket er det, Lord Plumb siger i henhold til forretningsordenen, korrekt og må have gyldighed.
HUGHES (S). — Mr President, I think Mrs Maij-Weggen is wrong when she says that the issue has been confused by the contribution of my colleague Mr Bombard.
Fælles landbrugspolitik
There are some
Jeg personlig finder det ikke tilfredsstillende, at denne sag bare henvises til Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet.
I personally do not think it satisfactory that this matter should simply be referred to the Committee on Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities.
Da der helt klart er sket et brud på fastsat tradition i forsamlingen, haster det med at få disse stemmeforklaringer indsat i referatet.
Since there has clearly been a break with the established tradition of this House, the urgent matter is to restore those explanations of vote to the record.
Derefter kan sagen så overvejes i Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet.
Then the matter can be considered by the Committee on Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities.
A2-145/87) af Scrivener for Budget udvalget om forslag fra Kommissionen til Rådets forordning om særlige bestemmelser for finansiering af den fælles landbrugspolitik (KOM (87) 365 endel. - dok. C2-104/87).
A 2-145/87), by Mrs Scrivener, on behalf of the Com mittee on Budgets, on the proposal from the Commission to the Council for a regulation introducing special rules for the financing of the common agricultural policy (COM(87) 365 final — Doc. C 2-104/87).
Scrivener (LDR), ordfører. — (FR) Hr. formand, Budgetudvalget er sig helt bevidst, at Rådet har an modet om uopsættelig forhandling om en forordning, som skal indføre særlige bestemmelser for finansiering af den fælles landbrugspolitik.
SCRIVENER (LDR), rapporteur. — (FR) Mr President, the Committee on Budgets is very aware of the urgency requested by the Council in the matter of a regulation introducing special rules for the financing of the common agricultural policy.
Udvalget er sig dette i den grad bevidst, at det stemte for denne uopsættelighed.
Such is its aware ness that it has voted to deal with it as a matter of urgency.
Men derefter har to møder i Budgetudvalget ikke kunnet føre til noget kompromis i dette spørgsmål, som er af den allerstørste vigtighed.
Since then two meetings of the Committee on Budgets have not in fact yielded a compromise on this question which is so very important.
Ford (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, en række problemer opstår i forbindelse med mødets gennemførelse i dag.
FORD (S). — Mr President, a number of problems arise with the conduct of the sitting this afternoon.
For det første, som jeg sagde før, gav formanden meddelelse om sin afgørelse på en pressekonference ved middagstid, så vidt jeg forstår.
Firstly, as I said before, the President announced his decision to a press conference at lunchtime, I under stand.
Jeg ville være tak nemlig, hvis han ville ulejlige sig med faktisk at med dele det til de valgte medlemmer af forsamlingen i stedet for at overlade det til en anden at oplæse en forfærdelig utilfredsstillende erklæring.
I would be grateful if he would take the trouble to actually announce it to the elected Members of this House rather than leave someone else to read out a terribly unsatisfactory explanation.
Han siger ikke i det, De oplæste, hr. formand, hvilken artikel han anvender.
He does not men tion in what you read out, Mr President, what rule he is applying.
Jeg har flittigt gennemledt forretningsordenen og kan ikke finde nogen artikel, hvorefter disse stemmeforklaringer kan forblive utrykt.
I have searched diligently through the Rules and I cannot find any rule that can keep these explanations of vote from being printed.
Jeg anmoder Dem derfor om i overensstemmelse med artikel 101, stk. 2, at afgøre nu, at de skal trykkes.
I therefore ask you under Rule 101(2) to rule now that they should be printed.
Det hedder i artikel 101, stk. 2:
It says in Rule 101(2) that 'the President shall take an immediate decision on points of order in accordance with the Rules of Procedure'.
Jeg vil være taknemlig for denne øjeblikkelige afgørelse nu.
I would be grateful for that immediate decision now.
Formanden. — Det hedder i artikel 18 :
PRESIDENT. — Rule 18 states:
Formanden leder på de i forretningsordenen fastsatte betingelser alt arbejde i Parlamentet og dets organer. Han har alle de
'The President shall direct all the activities of Par liament and of its bodies under the conditions laid down in these Rules.
Andriessen, næstformand i Kommissionen. — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg erkender naturligvis, at Parlamentet har ret, ja måske pligt til at undersøge en sag nærme re.
ANDRIESSEN, Vice-President of the Commission — (NL) Mr President, I naturally recognize Parliament's right, and in some cases its duty, to examine a subject more closely.
Jeg vil imidlertid gerne gøre opmærksom på, at der i dette tilfælde er tale om et problem, der bl. a. skyldes, at man havde brug for mere tid til at finde en
I wish to point out, however, that in this case something is involved which is also a consequence of the fact that more time was needed to find a structural solution for the financing of expenditure out of the EAGGF, and that if these decisions are not taken quickly it will cause serious difficulties in the financing of agricultural expenditure.
Denne arbejdsgruppe har indtil nu regelmæssigt beskæftiget sig med kvotaordningen og un dersøgt, hvorledes den anvendes i medlemsstaterne.
In this way we have collected information, asked questions, made visits and so we have been constantly engaged in the task which Parliament has set us.
Vi har afholdt høringer, vi har talt med personer fra andre lande, f. eks. Canada, New Zealand, Østrig og Schweiz. På denne måde har vi fået information, stillet spørgsmål, aflagt besøg, og har således til stadighed beskæftiget os med den opgave, som Parlamentet har pålagt os.
the issue, and given that this temporary state of affairs seems likely to endure, it seems to me common sense that an assembly like ours, which seeks to discharge its responsibilities and in no way wants to hold up the procedure, should offer no obstructions in an affair of this importance.
Dette er den tredje betænkning, som vi nu forelægger på plenarforsamlingen, bl. a. for at få en generel offentlig debat om kvotasystemet i stand med Kom missionen.
This is the third report we have tabled in the House, again in order to have a general debate with the Com mission in public on the quota system.
Jeg vil forudskikke, at det arbejde, der er udført af Kommissionen og af arbejdsgruppen, afgjort har haft resultat og har været til stor nytte.
I shall assume that the work of the Commission and of the working group has yielded definite results and that it has been worthwhile.
Det er vi overbeviste om.
We are convinced of that.
BL a. er reduktionen af kvotaen med 9 1/2% bl. a. kommet i stand på grund af pres fra arbejdsgruppen, der har udført et stort arbejde for at nå dertil.
Amongst other things the reduction of the quota by 9 Vi °/o was also brought about through pressure from the working group, which did a lot of work in order to achieve this.
Vi forpligter os til at forelægge en betænkning under den første mødeperiode i oktober.
We undertake to submit a repon to the plenary during the first October partsession.
Vi ønsker at nå frem til et resultat, det vil jeg gerne understrege, og vi vil gerne forhindre en blokering.
We do, I repeat, want to see this matter settled and to ensure that there are no hold-ups.
Men blot at vedtage en tekst af så stor betydning, for så vidt angår konsekvenserne ville hverken tjene Par lamentet til ære eller tjene Fællesskabets interesser.
But if we just let through a text with such important implications, we shall do no honour to Par liament nor shall we be acting in the interests of the Community as a whole.
Formanden. — Betænkningen vil blive opført på dagsordenen for mødeperioden i oktober ('),
(Parliament decided to refer the report back to com mittee)
Vi er naturligvis også glade over, at Rådet har truffet beslutning om at gennemføre en nedsættelse af mælkekvotaen i de senere år.
Our concern was not merely to reduce the quota for reduction's sake, the aim was — and this is still the purpose of it — to achieve a balanced market.
I betænkningen har vi imidlertid også i en række punkter givet udtryk for, at vi bl. a. nærer bekymring for, at de 9 1/2% ikke vil kunne nås i de kommende to år.
We are glad that the Commission, like the working group, was endeavouring to produce equilibrium in the dairy sector.
Måske vil det vise sig ved udgangen af året, at denne bekymring er ubegrundet.
PRESIDENT. — The report will be on the agenda for the October pan-session.1
Mælkekvotaordningen i EF
Dairy quota arrangements in the Community
— opfølgningsbetænkning (dok.
— the follow-up report (Doc.
A2-102/87) af Woltjer for Udvalget om Landbrug, Fiskeri og Ernæring om anvendelsen af mælkekvotaordningen i Fællesskabet efter tre år;
A 2-102/87) by Mr Woltjer, on behalf of the Committee on Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, on implementation of the dairy quota arrangements in the Community, drawn up on completion of three years' operation of those arrangements;
C2-101/87) om ændring af for ordning (EØF) nr. 804/68 om den fælles markeds ordning for mælk og mejeriprodukter.
C 2-101/87) for a regulation amending Regulation (EEC) No 804/68 on the common organization of the market in milk and milk products.
Europa-Parlamentets forhandlinger
Firstly, dis cussion has arisen over the 1.5% quota reduction in 1988-1989.
Disse er nemlig koblet sammen, op landbrugerne reagerer herpå.
They are in fact related and farmers are reacting to this.
Det ville være nyttigt, hvis Kommission en kunnen skabe lidt klarhed herom i de kommende måneder.
We would welcome any light which the Commission is able to shed on the matter in coming months.
tigt høje priser inden for mejerisektoren, men vi går ind for rimelige priser, således at de udgifter, som landmanden har i forbindelse med en effektiv pro duktion, også kan blive dækket.
WOLTJER (S), rapporteur — (NL) Mr President, in 1984, after the introduction of the quota arrangements in the dairy sector, Parliament decided to set up its own working group to study the effects of the way in which the quota arrangements are being applied in the Member States.
Det må ikke være sådan, at han bliver straffet to eller tre gange, både gennem medansvarsafgiften, gennem lave priser og gennem kvotasysternet.
In Parliament's view an important measure of this kind, which can have dramatic consequences, must be kept under close review by Parliament.
Vi siger, at et kvotasystem er tilstrækkeligt, og jeg mener, at Kommissionen bør give nærmere oplysninger herom.
The working group has so far met regularly to examine the quota arrangements as they are being implemented in the Member States.
Et andet spørgsmål, som også er vigtigt, er, hvad der nu skal ske i de medlemsstater, som egentlig har anvendt kvotaordningen på en ukorrekt måde, sådan at forstå at de har udstedt alt for stor kvota, hvorved den nationale referencemængde er overskredet.
Another question which is important is precisely what happens in the Member States which have in fact applied the quota arrangements in an unfair manner, in that they have granted far too many quotas, so that the national reference quantity has been exceeded.
Det var således ikke landbrugerne, der var årsagen til overskridelsen, men regeringerne, der har undstedt en langt større kvota, end den nationale referencemængde tillod.
It was thus not the farmers who were responsible, it was the governments which granted far more quotas than the national reference quantity allowed.
Dette er sket i Nederlandene og i Tyskland.
This has happened in Germany and in the Netherlands.
Kommissionen anmodes om nøje at beskrive, hvad man har foretaget over for disse lande.
I should like the Commission to say in detail precisely what
Hvilke foran staltninger er der truffet?
Document received : proposal for a decision: see Minutes.
Et sidste vigtigt punkt i betænkningen er kontrollen med kvotaordningerne.
Woltjer action has been taken against these countries.
Vi har følelsen af, at kontrol len bør skærpes.
What measures have been taken?
For øjeblikket ser det nemlig ud til, at vi ikke rigtigt har hold på dette.
And what is being done to prevent this happening again in future?
Revisionsretten har udarbejdet en rapport — det er i mellemtiden også kommet frem i pressen — om, hvorledes hele kvotasystemet fungerer.
Court of Auditors — this has also been reported in the press — has produced a report on the operation of the quota system.
Vi er spændte på denne rapport, og vi vil også gerne diskutere den med Kommissionen; men jeg vil endnu en gang sige, at det er vigtigt, at ordningen anvendes fornuftigt og kontrolleres, ellers opstår der store problemer.
We are curious to see the report and we should like to discuss the report with the Commission, but, once more, it is imperative that the arrangements be properly implemented and controlled, otherwise it will create enormous problems.
Hvad sker der i de lande — det har vi også beskæftiget os med i betænkningen — hvor kvotaordningen endnu ikke er anvendt korrekt, og hvor der endnu ikke er fastlagt en klar kvota for landmændene?
What happens — we have put this in our report as well — in the countries where the quota arrangements have not been adequately implemented, where no definite quotas have yet been set for the farmers?
Vi har konstateret, at Italien er bagud på dette område.
We found that there was a backlog in Italy.
Også herom vil vi gerne have oplysninger af Kom missionen.
We should like to hear more from the Commission on this point as well.
Det er ikke fordi vi vil sætte nogle lande i gabestokken, men vi vil gerne have klar besked om, hvorvidt målsætningen, som er markedsligevægt, vil kunne nås i 1989.
Not so that we can pillory the countries here, but to hear clearly from the Commission whether the objec­tive of a balanced market will be achieved in 1989.
Det er af afgørende betydning for os, og derfor har jeg fremhævet disse punkter.
That is what we consider to be essential and that is why I am raising these points.
Efter tre års anvendelse af mælkekvotaordningen viser den klart sine fordele og svagheder.
After three years of operation the strengths and weaknesses of the sys­tem of dairy quotas are evident.
Der er ingen, der i dag kan bestride, at kvoterne har muliggjort en meget følelig reduktion af Fællesskabets mælkeproduktion.
No one can now deny that the quotas have made it possible to reduce very considerably the volume of dairy production in the Community.
Siden 1984 er mælkeleverancerne faktisk faldet med 13%, hvorimod man måtte have regnet med en pro duktionsstigning på 16%, hvis kvotaordningen ikke var indført.
Since 1984 milk production has fallen by 13% and it can be assumed that production would have grown by 16% but for the quotas.
Det er om denne forskel, vor diskussion bør dreje sig.
It is this difference which is relevant in our discussions.
Et andet punkt i betænkningen er spørgsmålet om de små bedrifter.
Another point in the report is the matter of small farms.
I betænkningen slår vi udtrykkeligt til lyd for, at Fællesskabet yder de små bedrifter større beskyttelse.
We have expressly pleaded in the report for the European Community to afford rather more protec­tion to small farms.
Vi afviser med stort flertal den kommer cialisering af kvotaen, som nu er ved at tage over hånd.
We reject by a large majority the commercialization of quotas, which is now increasing hand over fist.
Dette fremgik også ganske klart i går.
That also became very apparent yester­day.
For øje blikket betales der enorme beløb for kvotaen, og det betyder, at kun de store kapitalistiske landbrugsbedrifter kan købe denne kvota, og at vi stadig væk sidder med strukturproblemer, og at visse små virk somheder nu ikke længere har mulighed for at klare sig, fordi de simpelthen ikke kan komme i betragtning med hensyn til kvotaen.
At the present time enormous sums are being paid for quotas and that means that it is now only the large capitalist farms which are able to buy these quotas and at this precise moment we are still faced with struc­tural problems and some small farms no longer have any potential because they simply do not qualify for quotas.
Den nationale reserve, der hidtil har været bestemt hertil, bliver ikke suppleret, og landmændene handler indbyrdes med kvotaen, hvorved strukturpolitikken udhules.
The national reserve which was kept for this in the past is no longer being filled and the farmers allo­cate the quota among themselves, which makes a mockery of the structural policy.
Det er af gørende vigtigt for os, at Kommissionen kommer ind på dette spørgsmål.
We think it essential for the Commission to investigate this.