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VANDEMEULEBROUCKE (ARC). — (NL) Hr. for mand, kære kolleger, alllerførst vil jeg gerne takke kommissæren for, at han gav mig foretræde her i formiddags, men jeg må dog sige, at jeg er lidt skuffet over redegørelsen.
I am absolutely shocked to hear that some people here in Europe, some farming organizations, some ministries, some governments who are responsible for across-the-board supervision in this field, have not been doing this.
Tag mig det ikke ilde op.
It comes as a major surprise to me.
Der findes en lovgivning, og den må anvendes. Der må heller ikke herske tvivl om lovgivningen.
We have been putting people in jail for the last three years because there is no other way of dealing with the matter.
Der er visse lobbyist grupper, bl.a. FEDESA, der forsøger at modvirke den retslige gyldighed af det totale forbud.
If you are talking about angel dust there is no point in saying that because it is a cocktail you can get to the producer.
Heldigvis forgæves.
The producer can be anybody.
EF-Domstolen har flere gange udtalt sig om gyldigheden af det direktiv, som vi her har vedtaget.
It must be the person who is using it, it can only be the person who is using it.
Dog er visse direktiver ufuldstændige.
So we must be clear and emphatic on that issue.
MARTINEZ (DR). — (FR) Hr. formand, det er et uhyre vigtigt spørgsmål, al den stund man — det siger jeg til mine kolleger — er nået til anden generation af anvendelse af hormoner.
Furthermore, I have to say that the use of hormones encourages overproduction and distorts competition among meat producers.
Man anvender dem endog ikke mere, man manipulerer besætningerne hormonalt.
Health-conscious consumers are anxious and fearful of eating meat.
Jeg skal forklare det nærmere.
Even farmers who produce their meat legally are affected by any reduction in consumption.
Man er i dag nået til lysstyring af besætninger ved hjælp af et hormon i hjernen, som hedder melatonin, og som sørger for transmissionerne mellem lys og pattedyrenes biologiske ur.
More stringent checks on fattening enterprises for the use of illegal hormones are also necessary because, after the agricultural reform decision, the Commission ruled that no aid would be paid in respect of animals who had been given feedingstuffs with hormones.
I en række medlemsstater gøres der også brug af vækst fremmende stoffer.
So Commissioner, may I ask you, what do you mean when you say that your machine is well-oiled?
Det er ikke hormoner i ordets viden skabelige forstand, men det er klart produkter, der har en hormonel virkning. Må jeg f.eks. henvise til de såkaldte fordelere.
If that is the case, I cannot understand why, as stated in the Greens' document, we have no supervision, for example, in Belgium; why we have no supervision in the Netherlands.
Europa-Parlamentets undersøgelsesudvalg an modede allerede i april 1989 indtrængende om visse ændringer, og hidtil har jeg ikke set nogen mærkbar forskel eller nogen mærkbar lovgivning.
It is a shocking state of affairs if we do not have throughout Europe a single, strong inspectorate, overseen by the Commission, to insist and ensure that a particular substance is not allowed into our meat chain.
Det vil sige, at man går langt videre end den klassiske anvendelse af hormoner.
That is where the emphasis must be placed.
De to forslag, vi har fået forelagt, rejser endnu en gang et klassisk problem, som dog ikke er mindre alvorligt. Det er hele problemet med uhæderlig brug af hormoner i opdrættet.
I call on the Commission and the authorities in the Member States to begin immediately with more stringent checks and also and above all to give inspectors the necessary state protection.
Vor kollega fra De Grønne Jeg tager del i hans problemer, har, forlyder det, været udsat for attentater fra disse mafiaer.
After all, it is unacceptable that an inspector on the trail of some suspect activity should end up as the culprit who has done something stupid or even as the victim of physical assault.
Det drejer sig, som der blev gjort opmærksom på, om anvendelsen af beta-agonister såsom clenbuterol og vækstfremmende stoffer.
That cannot be the goal of a Community constructed on sound foundations !
Efter min mening er en række direktiver ufuldstændige, og dem ønsker vi også at ændre.
The market depends on the consumer for its existence. The consumer must have confidence in the products offered.
Vi ønsker også, at der laves et effektivt system, der muliggør identifikation af ethvert levende eller slagtet dyr under hele fødevareproduktionskæden.
I therefore propose that we now create the same laws for all the Member States and that these be consistently applied.
Vi ønsker, at illegalt behandlede levende dyr tilintetgøres uden nogen som helst form for kompensation.
Our debates here serve little purpose unless we ensure that the decisions we take are actually implemented.
Vi ønsker at gøre besiddelse af forbudte stoffer og ulovlig besiddelse af tilladte stoffer strafbart. Vi ønsker også, at det angives, hvorledes, hvomår og hvor inspektion af levende dyr på bedriften eller på markedet eller under transporten eller på slagterierne skal finde sted.
MORRIS (S). — Mr President, the monitoring of the illegal use of growth hormones has become a very dangerous profession, as recent attacks upon meat inspectors in Belgium show.
Vi ønsker også, at der i ethvert af disse tilfælde foreligger en aftale og forudgående kendskab hertil.
They do that because — and we must keep this in mind — they have invested millions upon millions upon millions of pounds, francs, ecus and so on, and they are now looking for a return.
Hr. formand, kære kolleger, kontroldirektiverne må anvendes korrekt og ensartet.
KILLILEA (RDE). — Mr President, I am rather shocked and amazed at what I hear here today.
Vi må absolut have kontrol med flest mulige stoffer og på et tilstrækkeligt detektionsniveau.
I am shocked and amazed because I believed that things had been applied equally for the last three or four years across the whole of the 12 nations of Europe.
Europa-Parlamentet nedsatte i 1988 et undersøgelsesudvalg om hormoner.
In September 1988 I was one of the people who sought to have a public hearing set up.
Kommissionen bebudede sin egen undersøgelse.
It was held and made its recommendations to this Parliament.
Resultaterne foreligger stadig ikke den dag i dag, fire år efter.
This Parliament made its recommendations to the Council and to the Commission, and everything was accepted.
Kommissær Pandolfi lovede at forelægge rapporten for Parlamentet i
But I am shocked to see in his motion for a resolution that he asks
Følgerne af denne hormonbehandling til slagteribrug, hvis jeg tør sige det højt, er velkendte.
There is plenty of justification for our objecting to the use of artificially produced hormones.
Dernæst på det forbryderiske plan idet denne særdeles lønsomme praksis ligger i illoyal konkurrence med på den ene side de hæderlige opdrættere, hr. landbrugskommissær, og på den anden side de uhæderlige.
Besides all that, there is plenty of evidence to prove that artificial hormones increase the risk in cows of mastitis, reduce fertility, create leg problems, enlarge hearts and ovaries.
uundgåeligt giver forbrugerne stofskifteforstyrrelser. Man når således frem til en forfærdende konstatering: fremskridtene inden for kræftforskningen øges, men på den anden side øges de kræftfremkaldende faktorer også.
States, considerable efforts have been made to prosecute those involved in the illegal trade in hormones and hormonetreated meat, and I agree with previous speak ers that these efforts must be continued.
FORMANDEN. — Jeg tager Deres forslag til efterretning.
SIMMONDS (PPE). — Mr President, I listened to the Commissioner's statement this afternoon with great disappointment.
Jeg gør opmærksom på, at der var tre forslag, og når vi går over til afstemning, vil vi have Deres forslag in mente.
It was about as interesting and stimulating as a reading from the telephone directory. It told us precisely nothing.
De appellerer til menneskenes ansvarsfølelse.
That was a request which was made in the course of the discussions.
Det er optimistisk, det er godt, man skal aldrig tvivle på menneskene.
We want to know who is using which substance, where, and what action you are going to take.
Endelig kan Gud jo vende tilbage en skønne dag!
I know it is going to upset some people but we want to know the details.
Men det ville måske være bedre at appellere til apotekernes, opdrætternes og foderstoffabrikanternes ansvarsfølelse.
What concerns me is that international criminal organizations have found that supplying illegal growth and yield promoters can be as profitable as their miserable trade in drugs for human degradation.
HAPPART (S). — (FR) Hr. kommissær, hr. formand, aggressionerne og truslerne mod vor kollega, hr. Vande meulebroucke, og mod de veterinærinspektører, der foretager undersøgelser, skal tages alvorligt.
I am sorry Mr Morris made the remarks he did about responsible pharmaceutical producers — I have been in close touch with that industry for many years.
Det er dyrere at producere kød afgod kvalitet.
I have no special interest in them.
Forbrugerne skal kræve kød med et kvalitetsmærke, også selv om kødet bliver dyrere, for ellers mister de hæderlige producenter modet over for den illoyale konkurrence fra de organiserede tyves side.
Their organization and its mem bers have a good track record not only in condemning those people who use and produce drugs illegally, but also in fighting to bring those people to justice.
Bekæmpelse, ja, amerikanerne bekæmpede alkohol i forbudstiden.
I say to the Commissioner this afternoon: come on, reassure our consumers about our meat.
Man ved, at effektiviteten er ret begrænset.
Get tough with the criminals.
Kontrolforanstaltninger, ja. Der er brug for flere test.
In many instances it is only too easy to pick out the animals and carcasses which have been treated illegally.
Man er jo nået frem til at teste sportsudøvere for at finde ud af, om de er dopede. Hvorfor ikke gøre det samme med kødkroppene?
Burn the carcasses, fine and imprison the owners!
Men også dér vil det uundgåeligt være utilstrækkeligt.
It is not only the cattle that have put on unnecessary weight.
Endelig er det uomgængelig nødvendigt at kontrollere kød, slagteaffald og afledte produkter importeret fra tredjelande, hvor der anvendes hormoner, hvad enten det er Amerika eller andre lande.
As the House is aware, the Community equipped itself with such a system in December 1992.
Der er allerede 1 million og hundrede tusind t kød på lager. Der er derfor ikke nogen som helst grund til at forøge lagrene.
Thanks to the establishment of a Community veterinary and phytosanitary office, the Commission has the means to carry out inspections, and it is currently in the process of recruiting additional staff.
Selv mener jeg — jeg ved godt, det er lettere sagt end gjort — at man bør tage fat om ondets rod.
That is also an essential precondition for success in this field.
Vi oplever i virkeligheden et ufornuftigt landbrug, og det gælder ikke kun hormoner.
The Commission's investigation revealed other aspects of national controls which could be made more effective.
Det egentlige spørgsmål er, hvorfor anvender landmændene hormoner?
As I have already stressed, the Commission will not hesitate to assume its responsibilities, not least in the area of legislation.
Det gør de, fordi de er fanget mellem »input« og »output«, dvs. mellem udgifterne til de råstoffer, de bruger, de produkter, de får ud af dem, og salgsprisen for dem.
Moreover, effective control requires a concerted effort on the part of the Member States and adequate provision of qualified staff, technical equip ment and legal instruments.
Den lynhurtige udvikling er naturligvis at øge udbyttet gennem anvendelse af hormoner!
The Commission is counting on the support of Parliament in its endeavours to obtain those instruments, which it needs in order to be able to carry out the necessary investigations.
FUNK (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, kære hr. kommissær Steichen, man kan kun være enig i alt, hvad der bliver sagt her. Jeg vil imidlertid geme gøre opmærksom på følgende.
I am also sure that, as a result of the Commission's intervention, the Member States are more aware of the problem and of the need to tackle it swiftly and effective-
Den dag, markedets lov igen sættes ind, den dag, en god bøf koster det, den rettelig skal koste, vender landmændene måske tilbage til et naturligt landbrug, til naturligt opdræt uden hormoner.
STEICHEN, Member of the Commission. — (FR) Mr President, on behalf of the Commission, I should like to assure Mr Vandemeulebroucke, who has been the victim of intimidation by the "hormone mafia", that he has our sympathy and solidarity.
Det er helt bestemt et særdeles vanskeligt problem, hr. kommissær, men Kommissionen kunne være mere streng og generelt forbyde anvendelsen af hormoner i stedet for at nøjes med at foretage nogle kontroller velvidende, at de rigtige løsninger ligger et andet sted!
However, I do not agree with him when he says that I suggested a kind of subsidiarity with regard to the various responsibilities that must be assumed.
Jeg vil gerne rette en særlig hjertelig tak til hr. Vande meulebroucke.
Mr President, I think it is important for the continuation of this debate to stress the fact that the Commission intends to submit a communication on this subject to Parliament and the Council within two months.
Vi arbejdede jo allerede i oktober sam men om et beslutningsforslag, men kom ikke rigtig nogen vegne med det hele.
That communication will take due account of Parliament's recommendations.
Jeg har af og til det indtryk, at hverken Kommissionen eller medlemsstaterne for alvor er interesserede i at ændre tingene til det bedre.
I would like to return to the subject of the communication which I promised would be submitted to Parliament and the Council within two months.
Men det er uhyre vigtigt, for hvem er i sidste instans taberne i denne sag? Taberne er jo de landmænd, som arbejder korrekt; de mister deres udbytte.
In drawing up that communication, I intend to take three things into account: firstly, the conclusions drawn from observations made on the ground; secondly, information regarding any improvements that have been made; and thirdly, measures which must be taken in the future.
De mødes med mistro af forbrugerne, selv om de udfører deres arbejde korrekt.
In this context, I would like to say that I have listened carefully to the various speakers and taken due note of their suggestions.
Nogle få sorte får bringer en hel stand i miskredit.
IN THE CHAIR: MRS ISLER BEGUIN Vice-President
FORMANDEN. — Som afslutning på forhandlingen har jeg modtaget tre beslutningsforslag med anmodning om afstemning snarest muligt. (')
VANDEMEULEBROUCKE (ARC). — (NL) Madam President, would the Commissioner please listen to what I am saying.
Afstemning om anmodningen om afstemning snarest muligt finder sted ved forhandlingens afslutning.
As part of the kind of open policy which Mr Delors has proposed, I should like to know which four countries are not complying with the legislation.
Endvidere må jeg konstatere, at anvendelsen af hormoner øger overproduktionen og tillige fordrejer konkurrencen mellem kødproducenterne.
As far as the investigation carried out by the Commission's services is concerned, I would point out that it was conducted in close cooperation with the Member States, and that any improvements that could be made were brought to the attention of the relevant national authorities.
Sundhedsbevidste forbrugere er ængstelige ved at spise kød.
That is what I meant earlier when I referred to results.
Jeg mener, at en øget kontrol med de bedrifter, der opfeder kvæg. med henblik på, om der anvendes ulovlige hormoner, også er påkrævet, fordi Kommissionen efter vedtagelsen af landbrugsreformen sagde, at der ikke gives støtte til dyr, der fodres med hormoner.
That communication to the Member States has already produced results in the case of eight Member States; the other four have not yet answered certain questions put to them by the Commission, which has asked them to reply as soon as possible.
Følgelig er vi også derfor nødt til at anvende korrekte metoder, for at landmændene kan få den støtte, der tilkommer dem.
Amongst other results, I would mention the fact that a number of Member States have adapted their national laws to Community legislation.
VANDEMEULEBROUCKE (ARC). — (NL) Hr. for mand, der foreligger tre beslutningsforslag, og Den Socialistiske Gruppe, De Grønne i Europa-Parlamentet og Regnbuegruppen er enedes om først at sætte Land brugsudvalgets beslutningsforslag under afstemning, idet der skal stemmes om en række ændringsforslag.
I believe that that is an essential precondition for taking action at Community level — which is what all the speakers have called for.
Hvis disse ændringsforslag vedtages, bortfalder resten.
The Commission and the Member States have also agreed on the procedure for testing laboratory samples.
Jeg håber, at man vil optræde korrekt i grupperne og også vedtage disse fem ændringsforslag, således at vi kan tage
That also requires harmonization, if we are to achieve results. Following the Commission's contacts with the Member
Jeg vil gerne opfordre Kommissionen og medlemsstater nes myndigheder til straks at indføre skærpede kontrolfo-
KILLILEA (RDE). — Madam President, I also thought that the Commissioner might have been courteous enough to tell us, in response to other statements made, what quantity of imported meat — particularly from the United States of America — still contains hormones and
FUNK ranstaltningerog navnlig give inspektørerne den nødvendige statslige beskyttelse.
KILLILEA hormone growth promoters? I think that is very important in these days of GATT, with all the talk and the chat.
Det kan da ikke være målet for et Fællesskab, som er bygget op på det rigtige grundlag!
I think that that is better than producing a hurried statement which would not contribute anything.
De foreslår nu, hr. kommissær, at vi reducerer slagtevægten for førsteklasses oksekød til intervention til 340 kg.
LANE (RDE). — Madam President, I also find it amazing that two or three years on we still have four countries which are not applying the rales, which have not even informed the Commission whether they have rales or not.
Vi ved, hvad det er.
We want their names.
De forsøger at gøre. Deres tal er for lavt.
I have pointed out year after year since 1989 that the beef coming in as Hilton beef is pumped full of hormones.
Det bør være 380 kg, men det skal ikke være over 400, for over denne grænse opmuntrer man dem. der har anbragt en bombe uden for Jaak Vandemeulenbrouckes dør.
It is coming onto the Community market, and the Commission is taking no measures to test this meat coming into the Community.
Det er dét. vi bør lægge vægt på.
It is full of hormones and the Commission is doing nothing about it.
MORRIS (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, overvågningen af den illegale anvendelse af væksthormoner er blevet en meget farlig profession, som man kan se af angreb, der for nylig har fundet sted på kødinspektørerne i Belgien.
VANDEMEULEBROUCKE (ARC). — (NL) Madam President, this is indeed a point of order.
Jeg er helt enig i, hvad hr. Killilea sagde, men jeg er også chokeret over den uansvarlige, nærmest kriminelle måde, hvorpå medicinalindustrien tillader deres produkt at blive dumpet kritikløst på verdensmarkedet, i trejeverdenslande, særlig nu, hvor de ikke kan fa adgang til Fællesskabet.
Since the Commission is normally considered to be open, I should like to ask the Commissioner if the four countries which he is unwilling to name are not Denmark, Belgium, the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Luxembourg, Ireland or the Netherlands, but in fact the four others.
Markedet lever af forbrugeren.
Is this a new departure — has the Commission changed its practices?
Forbrugeren skal have tillid til de produkter, der udbydes.
We used to get a statement at the beginning and answers to questions at the end.
Det vil forbrugeren kunne få, og det har vi også lovet ham.
We appear now to be getting the statement at the end and no answers to questions.
Det er nødvendigt at spise, heldigvis!
This is definitely a retrograde procedure.
At spise bør ikke kun være en glæde, men tillige en nydelse.
STEICHEN, Member of the Commission. — (FR) In all honesty, I have no names to give the House at present.
Man skal kunne glæde sig til maden og ikke være nødt til at være bekymret for dens kvalitet. Det ville da være en helt forkert politk, om vi gjorde det modsatte.
Even my assistant here, who belongs to the veterinary section, cannot tell me the names of the four Member States in question.
Derfor foreslår jeg, at vi nu sørger for, at der skabes et ensartet retsgrundlag for alle EF-medlemsstaterne, og at det bruges i overensstemmelse med sit formål. Det er dét, det kommer an på!
The Commissioner said a statement or a report would be made in two months' time. In my recollection Mr Pandolfi promised a statement at the beginning of this year.
KILLILEA (RDE). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg er ret chokeret og forbløffet over, hvad jeg hører her i dag.
BLAK (S). — (DA) Madam President, I am well aware that it is hard for the Commission to give an answer as he is relatively new.
Jeg er chokeret og forbløffet, fordi jeg troede, at reglerne var blevet anvendt ensartet i de sidste tre-fire år i alle Fællesskabets 12 lande.
But I also feel it is a slight to the Members who have been following the debate.
Der er ingen mangel på begrundelse for vor modstand mod anvendelsen af kunstigt fremstillede hormoner.
If he says he will provide answer, I should like to have the Commissioner write to all 518 Members and give them answer.
Dyrenes sundhed er truet. Landbrugsprodukternes image er truet.
If the Commissioner cannot answer our questions, what is he doing here?
Den var omtrent lige så interessant og stimulerende som en oplæsning af telefonbogen.
We shall now proceed to the vote on the request for an early vote.
Den fortalte os ikke noget som helst.
(Parliament agreed to the request)
Parlamentet fremsendte sine henstillinger til Rådet og Kommissionen, og det hele blev vedtaget.
It is not a question of countries failing to apply the rales.
Nu må jeg sige, at jeg føleren vis sympati for hr. Vandemeulebroucke på grund af det pres, han er udsat for hjemmefra, og jeg vil også gerne give udtryk for solidaritet med ham.
I cannot, moreover, give the House the names of the four Member States in question at the present time.
Hr. formand, det har vi haft i Irland i de sidste tre år! Og jeg troede, at dette inspektorat virkede i hele Europa.
I shall communicate them to the House in writing.
Vi vil gerne have at vide, hvem der bruger hvilke stoffer, hvor, og hvad De vil gøre ved det.
I do not know which Member States they are!
Jeg ved, det vil forurolige nogle mennesker, men vi vil gerne have detaljerne.
I shall inform the House in writing!
Når det gælder angel dust, så tjener det ikke noget formål at sige, at man kan gå til producenten, for det er en blanding. Producenten kan være hvem som helst.
As regards the question by Mr Killilea — and I shall take the opportunity of answering Mr Lane at the same time — on meat imported from the United States, that meat generally comes from slaughterhouses which do not accept animals treated with hormones.
Det må være den, der anvender det, det kan kun være den, der anvender det.
As far as quantities are concerned, I cannot give the House an answer to that question, because I do not have one.
Så vi må udtrykke os klart og eftertrykkeligt om dette problem.
I shall reply to you in writing.
Jeg har ingen særlig interesse i disse virksomheder.
a proposal from the Commission to the Council (COM(92) 0213 — Doc.
Deres organisation og dens medlemmer kan opvise en række fine resultater, ikke bare når det gælder at fordømme de mennesker, der bruger og illegalt fremstiller stofferne, men også med hensyn til at bekæmpe dem og slæbe dem for retten.
C3-0292/92) for a regulation amending Regulation (EEC) No 3687/91 on the common organization of the market in fishery products and amending Regulation (EEC) No 2658/87 on the tariffand statistical nomenclature and on the Common Customs Tariff;