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Samtlige grupper tilsluttede sig dengang kompromiset.
But because something is difficult that does not make it impossible.
Der skimtedes dog, og det er for mig det bemærkelsesværdige ved debatten, en ny politisk prioritering, der bevægede sig bort fra forsyningsprincippet og i retning af større konkurrenceevne, dvs. prisargumentet.
While Great Britain was able to extract its coal industry from the chaos into which a prounion policy and a chronic lack of investment had plunged it, turning it into a modern and profitable mining industry — at the least in those pits where they have succeeded in banishing the spectre of Arthur Scargill — other countries — like my own, Spain ·— have failed learn from the experience of others and continue to lose precious time in guaranteeing their coal mines the competitiveness they must have if they are to survive.
Spørgsmålet om beregneligheden af kulforsyningen spillede en underordnet rolle. le.
We have our own 'Arthur Scargill' in my country, in the shape of Mr Villa who not only exercises his trade union functions in a similar way, but also — like Mr Scargill — is prepared to lay down his life to save a pit in Asturias.
Vi kan konstatere, at det er muligt at lade afviklingen af kulpolitikken og kuludvindingen ledsage af en so cial og økonomisk politik med strukturomlægninger og med sociale ledsageforanstaltninger.
We can see that it is possible for the downgrading of the coal policy and coal production to be accompanied by a social and economic policy of restructuring and social help.
Kommissionen har gjort dette muligt i sin planlægning, således som Parlamentet ønskede det.
The Commission has made this possible in its longterm view, as Parliament requested.
Vi ser i nogle landes erfaringer en positiv udvikling på det sociale område, men alligevel er problemerne fortsat store, og når vi tænker på Forbundsrepublikken Tyskland. Frankrig, mit eget land, Spanien og overalt, hvor der udvindes stenkul, brunkul og andre former for fast brændsel, må vi fortsat beskæftige os med denne problematik.
In what has been done in a few countries we see positive developments in the social sphere, but the problems are still serious, and when we think of the Federal Republic of Germany, France, my own country, Spain and every where hard coal, brown coal and other solid fuels are produced, we must continue to be very concerned about these problems.
Det er på denne baggrund, at min gruppe forholder sig positiv til vor kollega, hr. Wests, betænkning og også kan tilslutte sig den i store træk.
My group therefore takes a favourable view of Mr West's report and largely endorses it.
Den politiske hensigt med denne betænkning, som er en initiativbetænkning, da der jo ikke ligger noget kommissionsforslag til grund for den, er at henvise til spørgsmålet om beregneligheden af investeringerne inden for Fællesskabets kulsektor og at kræve denne beregnelighed.
Mr President, thank goodness the report we are debating today leaves the empty rhetoric of this person far behind and establishes parameters of common sense and moderation for the in-depth treatment of this question.
Jeg vil derfor være taknemmelig for en reaktion eller udtalelse fra Kommissionens side om, hvordan den ser på beregneligheden af Fællesskabets kulpolitik.
And I must refer to the mining industry of Asturias in particular, because it is in a critical phase which could well end in a stage of drastic change from what the present Governement has accustomed us to, leading to an irreversible loss of jobs unless real efforts are quickly made in research, invest ment and, finally, raising the productivity of the pits.
Andet punkt : Efter min opfattelse ligger der en stor fare i det af visse regeringer hyldede princip om, at alle skal købe deres elektricitet der, hvor den kan fås billigst, altså at lade som om elektricitet er noget, man kan købe i et varehus og tage med hjem i tasken, en vare som enhver anden, uden at man — ganske bortset fra den fysiske siden af sagen —, tager hensyn til, at det ikke blot drejer sig om en være, men faktisk om energiforsyningssikkerheden inden for Det Euro pæiske Fællesskab.
Mr President, if this report is passed in the version we have before us or in similar terms — and our support for it can be counted on from now on — I think it will be a great step forward in ensuring the longterm future of European coal mining and a community framework will be established which will rule out the policy of chronic neglect now threatening state-owned coal mining in Asturias.
I denne uge vil Parlamentet også beskæftige sig med denne kulpolitik og med mineområderne, som har en stor tradition i Vesteuropas økonomiske og industri mæssige udvikling.
Later this week Parliament will again be considering the coal policy and the mining areas, which have had a long history in the economic and industrial develop ment of Western Europe.
Det er en god lejlighed til endnu en gang at sige til offentligheden, hvad dette betyder, hvilke vanskeligheder der er, og hvilke bestræbelser der er nødvendige for at klare disse problemer både i økonomisk, social og regional henseende.
This will be a good opportunity to tell the public once again what this means, what can be done and what efforts will be needed to cope with these problems in economic, social and regional terms.
Jeg håber, at disse debatter om West-betænkningen og kollokviet om stenkulområderne i Europa i denne forstand kan medvirke til en positiv, værdifuld holdning til kulpolitikken.
I hope these debates on the West report and the colloquy on the mining areas in Europe can help to bring about a positive, useful approach to the coal policy.
Disse overvejelser er afgørende for min gruppes holdning til denne problematik.
This is how my group intends to approach these problems.
Der er ikke i dag nogen anledning til at tage fat på spørgsmålet indre marked og energi, men ikke desto mindre tror jeg. at det er dette spørgsmål, der indebærer størst fare for
The widespread substitution of cheaper imported coal for endogenous coal will alarmingly increase our dependence on the out side world for energy supplies.
Arguelles Salaverria (ED). — (ES) Hr. formand, den ne forhandling om europæisk kulpolitik er yderst vig-
ARGUELLES SALAVERRIA (ED). — (ES) Mr President, the debate taking place today on European coal is an occasion for recognizing its great import ance, as it is establishing a doctrine at Community level to be applied in defence of an economic activity which possesses an enormous capacity to influence the
Det er ligeledes en god lejlighed til at vise, at det ikke er for sent at rette nogle af de fejl, der tidligere er blevet begået på et tidspunkt, hvor vi troede, at kul som energikilde uvægerligt var blevet overhalet af andre ressourcer.
Sanz Fernandez since it was demonstrated quite generally that the use of coal has become entirely disadvantageous from two points of view: first because in some countries mining has to be carried out at a depth of 1 000 metres, and secondly, as has also been said by other colleagues earlier, because the deregulation of imports from third countries would offer primary energy raw material much more cheaply than that produced in the Com munity itself.
ring af vores energiforsyninger.
lems in the coalfields and regional disequilibrium.
Hvis den generelle tendens til at erstatte fællesskabsinternt kul med bil ligere importeret kul fortsætter, vil vores afhængighed af tredjelande med hensyn til energitilførsel blive alarmerende forøget.
We are in favour of making the maximum possible use of Community coal for strategic and social reasons, but also for and also because of medium and longterm economic considerations, because we do not believe that the international coal price can be maintained indefinitely at the current low level.
Samtidig vil lukningen af kul miner ud fra kortsigtede rentabilitetskriterier forværre de sociale problemer i kulmineområderne og den regionale uligevægt.
A further significant replacement of Community coal by imported coal will raise the international price of coal significantly.
Vi er tilhængere af i videst muligt omfang at udnytte Europas kulreserver af strategiske og sociale årsager, men også ud fra økonomiske over vejelser på mellemlang og lang sigt, for vi tror ikke, at de nuværende lave verdenspriser på kul kan opretholdes i det uendelige.
So the reference price for imported coal to which the cost of European coal should be compared ought strictly to be calculated assuming no coal was produced in the European Community.
Hvis der på ny sker en bevægelse i retning af i større omfang at erstatte fællesskabskul med importeret kul, vil verdenspriserne på kul stige væsentligt.
Mr President, the fact that the Community's coal mines are being kept working more for social and strategic reasons than for economic ones, is undeniable, certainly today.
Hvis vi skal være nøjagtige, må vi derfor for at kunne sammenligne omkostningsniveauet for europæisk kul med importeret kul udregne referenceprisen ud fra den forudsætning, at der ikke produceres kul i Det Europæiske Fællesskab.
However, we cannot tolerate the unfair discrimination against lignite and peat, materials whose mining is clearly more advantageous and which represent the livelihood of thousands of families, at least in my own country.
Vi har også i mit land vores egen »hr. Scargill« i hr. Villas skikkelse, og ligheden går ikke blot på samme fejtagelser under udøvelsen af fagforeningshvervet, men også på, at han — ligesom hr. Scargill — er rede til at ofre sit liv for at redde en skakt i Asturias.
For this reason, Mr President, I would ask my col leagues in every political group to vote in favour of the amendments tabled, whose aim is to equate lignite and peat to coal, because that is entirely fair, while the opposite would condemn to closure a large number of enterprises currently in difficulty in Greece and other Community countries.
Under sådanne omstændigheder ville eksportlandene tage miner med marginale omkostningsniveauer i brug ved en forøget efterspørgsel efter importkul, men også fragtpriserne ville stige, ligesom der skulle investeres i at udvide havneanlægene, så de kan mod tage en større mængde kul, der ville også blive tale om større transportomkostninger og investeringer i landeveje for at kunne bringe kullet fra havnene til varmeanlæggene, der nu ligger i nærheden af de pro duktive miner.
In these circumstances, marginal cost mines would be brought into operation in the exporting countries as the demand for imported coal increased, but shipping prices would also rise, there would have to be invest ment in port installations to make them large enough to receive a greater volume of coal, there would also be greater transport costs and investment in roads to bring the coal from the ports to the power stations which are currently located next to the productive mines.
Der skulle også investeres i ændringer af de nuværende anlæg for at tilpasse dem de nye kulformer. Afalle disse grunde ville prisen på det kul, vi nu importerer, stige.
At the same time, there would have to be investment to adapt existing plants to the characteristics of the new coals.
Men desuden ville der blive tale om en negativ indvirkning på medlemsstaternes budget, idet disse ville modtage mindre i merværdiafgift, indkomstskatter og beskatning af kulproducerende virksomheder og til gengæld ville blive nødt til at bruge mange flere penge til sociale udgifter i forbin delse med arbejdsløshed og den omlægning, som lukning af minerne ville medføre.
But, in addition, there would be a negative budgetary impact on Member States which would col lect less in VAT, taxes on profits or taxes on coal firms; on the contrary, they would have to spend much more money to cover the social costs of unemployment and retraining which would arise from the closure of the mines.
Alle de ovennævnte faktorer betyder, at vi ville få en meget højere referencepris end den aktuelle pris på importeret kul.
Taking into account all these factors, we would obtain a much higher reference price than the current price of imported coal.
Mange europæiske kulminer ville på denne måde komme til at ligge inden for den ønskværdige økonomiske rentabilitetsmargen.
Many European coal mines would thus fall within the desirable margin of economic profitability.
Alt dette styrker socialisternes beslutning om fortsat i størst muligt omfang at udnytte Fællesskabets kulreserver. server.
All this reinforces the decision of the Socialists to go on using Community coal as much as possible.
Vi har til det formål stillet et ændringsforslag, der efter min mening beriger teksten i hr. Wests betænk ning, der i sig selv er yderst positiv, og som jeg håber bliver vedtaget.
Consequently, Mr President, we have presented an amendment which I believe enriches the already very positive text of the West report and I hope it will be passed.
Hr. formand, hvis denne betænkning vedtages i en lignende udformning, som den udgave, vi har liggende foran os — og som vi naturligvis støtter — tror jeg, at der vil være gjort et stort skridt henimod at sikre fremtiden på lang sigt for den europæiske kul minedrift, og at der hermed vil være fastlægt en fællesskabsramme, som ikke længere vil gøre det muligt at føre en sådan kronisk nedlæggelsespolitik, som for tiden gør sig gældende for den offentlige kulminedrift i Asturias.
STAVROU (PPE) — (GR) Mr President, it is well known to any who have to do with the Community's policy on energy, that the aims planned in that sector for 1995 are always oriented towards solid fuels, which means that every kind of production or utilization programme is certain to include lignite and peat, and not just coal as was the case before 1984.
Sanz Fernandez (S). — Hr. formand, kul er den vig tigste energikilde i Det Europæiske Fællesskab til sik
Mr President, this basic amendment of the Com munity's laws is not of course a matter of chance.
problemer med ledelse og fagforeninger og disses in effektivitet.
denies, or rather in what it ignores.
I Storbritannien f. eks. investerer regeringen massivt i de miner, som kan gøres konkurrence dygtige, og tager dem, der ikke kan. ud af produktion.
Reading Mr West's words, one gets the impression that the Community has no energy future in prospect other than through coal.
Nottingham, så den nu er en internationalt konkurrencedygtig industri.
His enthusiasm is a little too unilateral, and that ought to be moderated.
Hr. formand, den kendsgerning, at Fællesskabets kul miner holdes i gang snarere af sociale og strategiske end økonomiske årsager, har vi ingen indvendinger imod, i hvert fald ikke på nuværende tidspunkt.
On reading Mr West's hymn to the glory of the god coal, one is inclined to reply: 'Yes to coal, by all means, yes to coal among other sources, but no to nothing but coal'.
Vi har nu en industri med høj produktivitet og høje lønninger, sammenlignet med en industri med lav produktivitet og lave lønninger i hr. Scargills og successive Labour-regeringers regi.
We now have a high-productivity, high-wage industry compared with a low-productivity, low-wage industry under Mr Scargill and successive Labour Govern ments.
Minearbejdere, hvis arbejdspladser er blevet nedlagt, er blevet omskolet og har fået de mest generøse fratrædelsesbetingelser og -betalinger, nogen gruppe manuelle arbejdere har fået noget sted i verden.
Redundant miners have been retrained and given the most generous redundancy terms and pay ments of any group of manual workers anywhere in the world.
Der er ikke en minearbejder, der er blevet fyret undervejs.
Not one miner has been sacked in the pro cess.
Der er mange, som har fået hjælp til at starte for sig selv.
Many have been helped to set up their own businesses.
Jeg anbefaler både den økonomiske og den sociale plan til Kommissionen. nen.
I commend both the economic and social plans to the Commission.
Derfor vil vi opfordre alle de politiske grupper til at stemme for de ændringsforslag, der er stillet med det formål at ligestille brunkul og tørv mit kul, hvilket er absolut retfærdigt, for hvis det ikke sker, vil et stort antal dårligt stillede virksomheder i Grækenland og andre fællesskabslande være tvunget til at dreje nøglen om.
We have a precedent — the steel industry — which Mr West ought to bear more firmly in mind. We must continue using coal, but we should also be buying it where the most economically attractive prices are available, since we should not draw too heavily on the Community's social future, which in many respects is what Mr West is inviting us to do.
Vi ved, at hr. Scargill har den holdning, at kul er en social ydelse, hvilket kul så afgjort ikke er.
Mr Scargill, we know, takes the view that coal it a social service, which it manifestly is not.
Men hr. Scargill repræsenterer heller ikke sine medlem mers synspunkter, ikke mere end direktionerne re præsenterer deres bestyrelsers interesser.
But then Mr Scargill no more represents the views of his members than managements represent the interests of their shareholders.
Kul er en handelsvare, som købes og sælges frit på verdensmarkedet.
Coal is a trading commodity, freely bought and sold on the world market.
Enhver europæisk kulpolitik, som ikke er baseret på denne kommercielle virkelighed, er dømt til at slå fejl.
Any European coal policy which is not based on this commercial real ity is doomed to failure.
Derfor har hr. Scargill skadet industrien så meget før i tiden, og derfor er han ikke manden, der kan lede den i fremtiden.
That is why Mr Scargill has done so much harm to the industry in the past and is not the man to lead it in the future.
Kort sagt. og som konklusion, den betænkning, vi har fået forelagt, er lang med hensyn til politiske observationer, men kort for så vidt angår kommercielle analyser og forretningsmæssige forslag til planer.
In short, and in conclusion, the report before us is long on political observations and short on commercial analysis and business plan proposals.
Jeg anbefaler Kommissionen at følge den britiske fremgangsmåde, som er ved at gøre den britiske kulindustri internationalt konkurrence dygtig.
I recommend to the Commission the British approach, which is making British coal internationally competitive.
(Mødet afbrudt kl. 19.00 og genoptaget kl. 21.00)
(The sitting was suspended at 7p.m. and resumed at 9 p.m.)
Kilby (ED). - (EN) Hr. formand, West-betænkningen er aldeles ikke et forslag til en kulpolitik som sådant, men er serie observationer og statistikker, som ikke munder ud i et sæt forslag.
SMITH (S). — Mr President, all my life I have lived in a coal mining community.
Den pointerer, at billig import er baseret på lave lønninger i lande som Sydafrika og Colombia, mens den ikke nævner, at to af de tre største eksportører til Fællesskabet.
However, that com munity has changed somewhat over the past few years in that in the small village in which I live we have lost two pits and approximately 1 500 men.
Australien og De Forenede Stater, betaler sammenlignelige eller endog højere lønninger.
Indeed, in the last few years in Wales the industry has lost something in the region of 20 000 people.
Hvorfor fandt ordføreren det ikke belejligt at stille det indlysende spørgsmål, som er: »Hvorfor køber socialistiske lan de i EF kul fra tredjelande, bl. a. Sydafrika?« Vi ken der jo alle svaret, men hans socialistiske kollegers skriftligt og mundligt udtrykte synspunkter ville alligevel have været meget interessante og yderst vel komme.
When we gave warn ings at the time of the miners' strike that that was going to happen there were people on the right of this House saying that we were talking nonsense and were merely repeating the propaganda which they said was coming from our leadership.
Gamle produktionsunlæg. for ældede maskiner og managementmetoder, arkaisk, restriktiv fagforeningspraksis og vanskeligere geologiske arbejdsbetingelser.
One of the arguments which the Labour movement in Britain has put forward, and, indeed, which has been endorsed by this Parliament is that we should have coal sanctions against South Africa.
Der er ikke meget, vi kan gøre ved de geologiske problemer, naturen frembyder, men vi kan gøre noget ved de menneskeskabte
When many of us put that demand in this Parliament some years ago we were told by the Tories that we must moderate it.
Nordmann (LDR). — (FR) Hr. formand, når jeg tager ordet i forbindelse med hr. Wests betænkning, er det ikke for at bebrejde forfatteren, at han tilsyneladende har ignoreret den betænkning, som vi har udarbejdet i Udvalget om Miljø- og Sundhedsanliggender og Forbrugerbeskyttelse om problemerne vedrørende forbindelserne mellem kulindustriens udvikling og miljøbeskyttelse.
NORDMANN (LDR) — (FR) Mr President, my motive in speaking on Mr West's report is not to chide him for having apparently disregarded the report that we in the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection produced on the problems arising in connection with the relationship between development of the coal industry and conservation of the environment.
Det er især for at bebrejde ham to
The case he makes out for coal is interesting in what it affirms but, as with many doctrines, it is debatable in what it
Vi ved også, at en stor del af de penge.
Smith interested in is money.
Tory'erne mod tager, faktisk kommer fra virksomheder med interesser i Sydafrika.
What we do know is that a considerable amount of money which goes to the Tory party comes in fact from firms who have got interests in South Africa.
Så når de siger, at de støtter de sorte arbejdstagere i Sydafrika, ved vi selvfølgelig, at det er vrøvl.
So when they say that they are stand ing up for the black workers in South Africa, in reality we know that is nonsense.
De eneste, de støtter, er folk med penge, de mennesker, der har profiteret af det racistiske regi me.
The only people they are standing up for are the people who have got money, the people who have gained from that racist regime.
Når man læser hr. Wests betænkning, får man en fornemmelse af, at Fællesskabet kun har en energimæssig fremtid på grundlag af kul.
Your report underlines the importance of finding alternative uses for coal and calls for the development of new combustion technologies, to improve coal's image in environmental terms.
Det er som et forsøg på at begrænse denne » pankul-kult «, der gen nemsyrer hver side i hr. Wests betænkning, at jeg har ønsket at fremsætte denne bemærkning.
The Commission is convinced that the research and demonstration efforts being made in this area absolutely must be continued.
Jeg skal tilføje — og det er det andet kritikpunkt — at Fællesskabet selvfølgelig må opretholde en kulindustri, men at det må ske under hensyntagen til rentabiliteten.
Clearly, encouraging coal consumption has a bearing on the objective of maintaining security of supply.
Vi har en præcedens, nemlig jern- og stålindustrien, der burde ligge hr. West lidt mere på sinde.
Indigenous production has a key part to play in this.
Vi skal fortsat udnytte vort kul, men vi må også vide at købe det, hvor det er økonomisk rentabelt og ikke trække for mange veksler på Fællesskabets sociale fremtid, som hr. West i mange henseender opfordrer os til at gøre.
It was in order to attain this objective that the Commission, if I may remind you, adopted Decision No 2064/86/ECSC in 1986, authorizing State aid to coal undertakings as long as such aid was used to improve their competitiveness, or to create new economically viable capacity, or to alleviate social or regional problems.
Hr. formand, jeg er af den mening, at vi i de kom mende år fortsat må kræve sanktioner mod Sydafrika.
Mr President, I believe that in the months and years ahead we must continue the demand for sanctions against South Africa.
Hvis vi gør det, vil vi begynde at befri alle de sorte mennesker — vore søstre og brødre, der lever under det undertrykkende regime, fra racismen.
If we do that we will begin to liberate all those black people — our brothers and sis ters who are living under that oppressive regime from racism.