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For det andet: Det er flere gange angivet, at en af grundene til en reform af den fælles landbrugspolitik er budgetmæssig.
MacSHARRY, Member of the Commission. — Mr President, it is very easy to answer the last question.
Kan Kommissionen garantere os, at de forslag, der er indeholdt i dette dokument, vil betyde en mindre belastning af EF's budget?
My commitment and the commitment of the Commission will be to the farming community and the consumers of the European Community, as well as to all international obligations.
Kommissæren siger, at han gerne vil have udbuddet under kontrol, det er et ønske, man kan dele, men har han ikke på fornemmelsen, at den måde, han foreslår os at gøre det på, simpelt hen svarer til at opgive Det Europæiske Fællesskab på verdensmarkedet?
PRESIDENT. — As I have said, the correct procedure is for your political group, like the Technical Group of the European Right, to put in a formal request for a debate.
Han ønsker endvidere at få udgifterne under kontrol.
I would like to start by dealing with the questions raised by Mr Colino Salamanca.
Det forstår man, men jeg vil gerne spørge ham, om Kommissionen virkelig har foretaget beregninger i forbindelse med ændringen af sin politik for at blive klar over, hvad de præcise virkninger bliver på budgettet, og om den ikke risikerer at begå den samme fejl som ved optagelsen af DDR i Fællesskabet, da man sagde til os, at den ville holde sig inden for budgettets rammer, medens man i dag ser, at det er helt forkert.
He asked if all proposals contained in the Reflection document seek to change the starting anomaly whereby eighty per cent of support goes to twenty per cent of the producers. Many of the questions raised are answered in the Reflection document, and I would urge all to read it very very carefully and not to be, as I said in my initial remarks, side-tracked by a hypothesis that was the subject of internal discussion and which was subsequently leaked, but to deal with the problems as we all know them, and seek to put forward realistic solutions to those problems.
Og endelig noget, som jeg mener er væsentligt: Kan Kommissionen sige, hvilken tidsplan den har tænkt sig for fremsættelse af de konkrete forslag for Parlamentet?
BLANEY (ARC). — Mr President, I would just like to put on record again my appreciation of the conversion of the Commission to the view that our support must be redirected.
Vi ønsker ikke at arbejde på grundlag af et memorandum, vi ønsker at arbejde på grundlag af en præcis tidsplan, så vi kan finde frem til enighed om Europa-Parlamentets vilje.
Can I then ask and expect this newly enlightened Commission, which has taken all these years to get this far, not to throw it all away ?
Tredje spørgsmål: De sagde, hr. kommissær, at De ønsker at bevare så mange landmænd som muligt i landdistrikterne.
Might I ask Commissioner MacSharry whether in fact he is going to continue to support factory farming ?
Tror De, at denne foranstaltning tilskynder de unge til at fortsætte i landbruget?
I found the paragraph referring to this in the Commissioner's speech to be unclear to say the least.
Hvilket svar følger heraf for fremtiden?
But let us examine that expenditure.
Betyder det, at den hidtidige politik skal ændres, eller at den kun burde videreføres mere konsekvent? kvent?
As I said in my initial remarks, and as all Members of Parliament know, we are talking about a thirty per cent increase in the budget from 1990 to 1991, an increase of ECU 7.5 billion.
Martin landbrugets økonomi, dets konkurrenceevne og bevarelsen af et aktivt miljø i landdistrikterne?
MacSHARRY financial instruments of whatever — and we have to take the global approach in these negotiations.
Howell (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, til forretningsordenen.
I do not think, Mr Brok, that you are correct in saying that the Bavarian farmers or any other group of farmers in any section of the Community would be affected by 'x' amount.
På baggrund af dette emnes uhyre store betydning og på baggrund af Kommissionens dokuments fundamentale karakter vil jeg gerne spørge, hvornår vi kommer til at føre reelle forhandlinger — ikke blot spørgetid, ikke blot en redegørelse, ikke blot et minuts tid til medlemmerne — om denne meget væsentlige sag om den vigtigste reformstrukturpakke, vi nogensinde har set her i Parlamentet?
We have not made any detailed proposals, so until there are such proposals one would not be in a position to make any calculations as to what the impact might be.
De vil fortsat bibeholde eksporten af landbrugsvarer.
Concerning Mrs Marin's question on exports, we intend to continue to be a player on the world stage and to be involved in exports on the world market.
Ville det ikke være mere fornuftigt at foretage en begrænsning ned til vore befolkningers sikkerhed for forsyninger og ikke eksportere, men til gengæld annullere importen af foderstoffer eller i det mindste reducere den?
I would emphasize once again, as I mentioned earlier, the cost of East Germany — and there is no reason for anyone to advise me that it is more than the ECU 1,315 million that is included in the budget, which is a very small proportion of the total of ECU 7,500 million by which the budget has increased from 1990 to 1991. Our policy, of course, is to keep people on the land.
Der er en mulighed for at få denne forhandling nu.
So far as Mr Howell's question about free trade in Europe is concerned, we are anxious for free trade in Europe and throughout the world as well.
De har måske med rette foreslået, at dette skal være spørgetid, men kan De fortælle os, hvornår vi kan få denne forhandling?
Free trade in Europe is only one aspect.
Vil Kommissionen komme med formelle forslag?
We have to take into account the impact of trade generally in the world.
Vil disse komme via udvalget under den normale sagsbehandling? Hvordan vil det foregå?
World market prices have to be taken into account and do have an impact, whether in relation to what we can sell abroad and the cost of selling it or what imports might come in and the prices they come in at.
Betyder det ikke, at De derigennem kun presser priserne på erstatningsprodukter nedad og ikke ændrer noget ved, at der kun anvendes lidt korn til foder?
Mr Bocklet suggested that the main cause of the problems is that quotas and set-aside and other measures did not work.
De vil have en pensionsordning for landmænd.
If they had worked better we might not have many of the fundamental problems we do have.
Vil De dermed lukke gårdene, eller vil De sikre, at efterfølgerne overtager gårdene, så arbejdspladsen dermed bevares?
But they did not work and they did not work because there was not a great acceptance of them or of the accompanying measures, and particularly set-aside.
De vil udligne med en sænkning af priserne på indtil 40%. Det er 100 mia. ECU om året.
That is the crux of the matter and that is why I come back to Mr Colino Salamanca's question in relation to the budget.
Hvor skal pengene komme fra?
We will have to wait and see.
Er De sikker på, at Fællesskabets eller medlemsstaterne budgetter vil udligne dette?
It will determine the level of compensation that we ultimately can afford.
Prissænkninger betyder øget brug af kemikalier, fordi der skal produceres til netop de priser.
We have seen what has happened and it is not just a temporary occurrence in eastern Europe, far less in East Germany alone.
Tænker De i den forbindelse på miljøet, som ikke kan tåle hverken en øget anvendelse af kemikalier eller en øget industrialisering? lisering?
In eastern Europe you had substantial food subsidies which led to huge food consumption.
Howell (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, De kender jo nok til de meget reelle problemer, de såkaldte Mac-Sharry-forslag har skabt i Det Forenede Kongerige.
Those subsidies have been eliminated or almost eliminated, and this has led to a huge downturn in consumption, causing a number of problems that will not go away.
Der er mange af os, som er alvorligt bekymrede over, at han søger at nå til det, vi kalder sligo-isering af det europæiske landbrug.
But because of the availability of supply now in many eastern European countries our products have been displaced on those third markets.
Beskyttelsen udadtil reduceres drastisk.
It is not a question of cutting off imports.
Dermed overtager De det amerikanske system. Ville det ikke være mere fornuftigt at holde beskyttelsen udadtil på et prisniveau, som muliggør et socio-økologisk for svarligt landbrug, for at vi ikke skal ende med samme destruktive produktion som USA's landbrug og dermed internationalt slå ind på en uøkologisk retning?
We have international obligations.
Fantuzzi (GUE). — (IT) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne stille kommissæren tre spørgsmål.
We are involved in international trade, trade in all commodities including food.
Hvordan vil han forsikre Det Forenede Kongeriges landbrugere om, at deres fremtid er sikret i forbindelse med hans forslag på trods af den følelse af håbløshed, de nu har?
Of course we have the wider situation in the world to deal with and it does no harm to remind the House that this House has approved much, if not all of our negotiating stance, and not just in the agricultural area.
Vi vil gerne bede hr. MacSharry om at gå hjem igen, om at tænke forfra, om at indhente bedre råd, og så fremsætte MacSharry-forslag, 2. udgave, så snart det kan lade sig gøre.
And I would like to emphasize that GATT is not just about agriculture.
Det, vi søger, er blot at undgå forskelsbehandling, at undgå uret færdigheder, og at sikre, at den fælles landbrugspolitik bevares netop som en sådan: en fælles politik.
It is important to recognize that and we will do our utmost to protect fully the mandate that was given to us in the negotiations under the agricultural heading, but we must remember that the other contracting parties are also anxious — whether the area be textiles, services,
Fantuzzi skal derfor føres med omtanke, og der skal være tid nok.
MacSHARRY is not going to get any support from the European budget.
På den anden side er det nødvendigt at stramme tidsplanen for at undgå, at der opstår en situationen med for stor usikkerhed hos de elleve millioner landmænd i EF.
We are saying quite clearly that the fundamental principles of the common agricultural policy will remain.
Det er ikke rimeligt, hr. formand, at vi på baggrund af, at millioner af landmænd i Fællesskabet og endog deres overlevelse drøftes, i aften kl. godt 19 i en næsten tom mødesal indskrænker os til nogle spørgsmål til kommissæren.
They will be supplemented by the points Mr Blaney and others have raised in relation to extensification, setaside, environmental measures and so on.
Formanden. — Fru Lehideux, en forhandling på det grundlag og i henhold til den artikel i forretningsordenen skulle have været vedtaget på et tidligere tidspunkt.
have suggested already, in answer to that question, that the level of compensation will depend on the amount of budget.
Det var ikke tilfældet.
I have also mentioned the question of the guidelines in relation to East Germany.
En anmodning om forhandling skulle fremsættes af Deres gruppe, og jeg har ikke fået meddelelse om, at der forelå en sådan anmodning.
We did not think necessary and we still do not think it necessary to increase the guidelines for the limited amounts that are involved.
Mit andet spørgsmål: Hvorfor bliver man i praksis ved med at benægte, at der er en forbindelse mellem forslaget til »prispakken« for 1991-92, GATT-forhandlingerne og disse tanker om reform af den fælles landbrugspolitik?
If there is to be an increase in the guidelines, we should do it in the context of the overall or greater reform when we see the enhanced activity that could be financed through an increased budget.
Det tredje spørgsmål går på miljøet.
That generally covers the points that have been raised.
Mener Kom missionen ikke, at tiden er inde til at fremlægge et samlet program om forholdet mellem landbrug og miljø, et program som skal inspirere til hovedlinierne i reformen af EF's landbrugspolitik?
One could go into more detail on some of the points raised, but I am at your disposal to reply to any further questions.
Martinez (DR). — (FR) Hr. kommissær MacSharry, jeg tror på Deres oprigtighed, De er ikke værre end hr. Andriessen, Gud ske lov.
GOLLNISCH (DR). — (FR) Mr President, I rise on a point of order under Rule 56, paragraph 3'.
Andet spørgsmål, hr. kommissær: Er det, De foreslår, ikke dyrere end det, vi allerede kender?
In relation to the coresponsibility levy raised by Mr Guillaume, it is our intention to abolish it, and as soon as the reforms come in it will be abolished.
Som Kommission, ikke personligt, har De i de sidste tredive år taget fejl utallige gange.
But I agree fully with Mr Guillaume — and I emphasize this because it was mentioned by a number of speakers — that there should be full consultation, and that consultation has been carried out.
I dag bør De derfor gøre status over Deres fejltagelser.
I have been in the parliamentary committee dealing with this issue on the basis of the discussing paper from the Commission and also of the price proposals.
Er De rent faktisk ikke i færd med rent budgetmæssigt at tage fejl endnu en gang?
We will continue to have that necessary consultation.
Og hvem skal betale, hvis det bliver dyrere end det, der for øjeblikket er afsat på budgettet?
We have met with COPA, COGECA and farming organizations from different Member States.
Guillaume (RDE). - - (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne stille kommissæren tre spørgsmål.
I am somewhat worried because I was told that this request should be put to the Enlarged Bureau.
Første spørgsmål: Kommissionens tjenestegrene oplyser, at indtægterne for øjeblikket ikke kan holde trit med de nødvendige udgifter.
I would consider that quite proper if the Enlarged Bureau only had to decide on the length of the debate, the technicalities, its date.
Vi anbefalede i sin tid stærkt, at man satte guide line op til det, der var nødvendigt for at tage hensyn til integreringen af DDR i Fællesskabet.
But if the Enlarged Bureau has to decide whether the debate should be held or not, I would remind you that under Rule 56, paragraph 3, it is not the Enlarged Bureau but the Parliament which decides.
Dette synspunkt blev afvist navnlig af Kommissionen.
And when the Rules of Procedure do not specify, Parliament means the Plenary Assembly.
Stillet over for vanskelig hederne i dag agter kommissæren da ikke at give os ret og følgelig sætte guide line op til det, der er nødvendigt for at klare integrationen af DDR?
And so I ask you forewith under this rule to consult the assembly if you still have the slightest doubt about whether a debate ought to be held.
Tredje spørgsmål: Man siger i dag, at landmændene er ved at forsvinde.
PRESIDENT. — I think the Rule is very clear, and we decided not to have a debate.
Men til hvilken pris?
I took that to be the sense of the House.
Ved at lade de mest konkurrencedygtige forsvinde?
We are talking about issues such as those raised by Mr Martinez and they must be addressed.
Er det et system af forbundne kar, hvor man ved hjælp af en international minimumsindkomst bevarer de små og lader de store, som er effektive, forsvinde?
We cannot just ignore them in a debate like this.
Andet spørgsmål: Medansvarsafgiften skulle ophæves.
I would also prefer that we have a longer debate than just 15 or 2 people asking two or three questions.
For to år siden vedtog Rådet, at den skulle ophæves, eller det var i det mindste det, ministrene sagde til os.
While I am not complaining, it is often difficult even to write down the questions when there are three or four per minute, apart from gathering one's thoughts to give meaningful responses to these very important questions.
Ophæves den denne gang, for der er to muligheder: Enten begik ministrene en fejl ved at oplyse, at denne afgift skulle ophæves, eller også overholder Kommissionen ikke sine forpligtelser?
In the context of this discussion document, we have to deal with the budget, the surpluses, the flight from the land, the environment and, of course, honour all our international obligations.
Jeg vil gerne have dette emne nærmere belyst.
That is all contained in the proposals put forward in the Commission's discussion paper.
Fjerde spørgsmål: Hr. kommissær, hvilken garanti får de små landmænd, som De ønsker at bevare som udøvende, for, at De opretholder den støtte, der sætter dem i stand til at overleve?
LANE (RDE). — Mr President, could I request, in view of the serious subject we are discussing and all of the questions which must be asked, that we resume at 9 o'clock and continue until 9.30 p.m. or 10.00 p.m. this evening?
De mener, at kommissæren pådutter dem sin sandhed uden at drøfte problemets kerne med dem.
Could we have an extra half hour later this evening ?
Lehideux (DR). — (FR) Hr. formand, De Europæiske Højrepartiers Gruppe anmoder i henhold til artikel 56, stk. 3, i forretningsordenen om, at der indledes en forhandling.
PRESIDENT. — I do not think we can. I have already let this debate run on twice the time that it was meant to last, and we have the Commissioner who has under taken to stay on as long as this, but I cannot bind him to come back in an hour.
Og til slut når jeg frem til mit grundlæggende spørgsmål.
Mr Blaney talked about factory farming.
Det er godt nok foruroligende, hr. kom missær, at De afbryder GATT-forhandlingen, priserne, dagen efter Golf-krisen.
I do not know exactly what he means by factory farming but so far as our proposals are concerned, we will have price reductions and full compensation for as many as possible, and that will depend on the budget available.
Det er godt nok foruroligende, at De helt og holdent retter Dem efter de amerikanske krav!
There have been various cut-off points suggested in leaked documents but it is a question of what resources are available that will determine the level of compensation and the number of people who will be compensated.
Derfor stiller jeg Dem følgende spørgsmål: Hvad her De, hr. kommissær, fået af USA for at give helt og holdent efter over hele linjen?
But there is no doubt that no matter what the particular farmer is producing, he or she will continue to command substantial budgetary transfers from the European taxpayers. There is no question about that.
For sådan er det jo, De opgiver de europæiske landbrugere, for at de amerikanske land brugere kan leve.
There is no saying to any farmer that he is above in particular size and we do not care what he produces, he
Dette er den reelle årsag til, at vi mener, der bør finde en forberedt forhandling sted i den nærmeste fremtid.
Just because you have been overwhelmed by the number of speakers is no reason that those who have taken the trouble to come here should not be allowed to put their questions.
Men på den anden side giver De et klart signal til USA om Deres beredvillighed til at komme med omfattende indrømmelser over for deres krav.
from the southern part of Europe should recognize that we do not just have citrus fruit, tobacco and cotton in the southern part of the Community.
De har forpligtet Dem til at begrænse Fællesskabets udgifter, hvilket giver anledning til at tro, at de kompensationer, landmændene har fået løfter om, i virkeligheden svinder ind til næsten ingenting, samt at de er hypotetiske og uden garanti.
There are also many millions of sheep, cattle and, of course, beef herds and cereals down there as well. I do therefore think, as has been said by the last speaker, that we should have the proper balance in any proposals that we make for the farmers of Europe in all the 12 Member States, regardless of what they produce.
Undskyld, men det ser alt sammen ud til at være en dårlig forretning.
GÖRLACH (S). — (DE) Mr President, it is not necessary to discuss whether we hold a debate now.
Altså, hr. kommissær, hvor er sandheden?
Once the Commission's discussion paper has taken shape we shall have a major debate in the committees and in the plenary.
I lofterne til landmændene eller i Deres forpligtelser over for USA?
There is no other way round that.
MacSharry, medlem af Kommissionen. — (EN) Hr. formand, det er ganske let at besvare det sidste spørgsmål.
PRESIDENT. — I have consulted the Rules and Rule 56(2) states that the period for questions should be 30 minutes.
Jeg vil gerne begynde med at behandle de spørgsmål, hr. Colino Salamanca stillede.
(The sitting was suspended at 8.00 p.m. and resumed at 9.00 p.m.)
Han spurgte, om man med samtlige de forslag, som er indeholdt i Kom missionens dokument, søger at ændre den overvældende skævhed, at 80% af støtten går til 20% af producenterne.
Commissioner, if the Commission is serious about its proposed reform — and reform is long overdue, that should be clear from the attacks here — why were you so timid and did not incorporate some, even if only cautious, elements of reform in your price proposals for this year ?
Blaney (ARC). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil blot gerne endnu en gang have ført til protokols, hvor glad jeg er for, at Kommissionen nu er nået frem til det synspunkt, at vor støtte må omdirigeres.
ORTIZ CLIMENT (PPE). — (ES) Mr President, very briefly I would like to ask the Commissioner if, with the reform of the CAP, of which there is no evidence at the moment except as an intention, he is finally going to redistribute the budget between Mediterranean policy and continental policy.
Må jeg så bede denne nyomvendte Kommission, som har været så mange år om at nå så vidt, om ikke at kaste alt dette over bord igen?
Secondly, I want to ask him what role middlemen will play as compared with the groupings of agricultural producers made possible by the CAP.
Må jeg have lov til at spørge hr. MacSharry, hvorvidt han faktisk fortsat vil gå ind for fabrikslandbruget?
PRESIDENT. — The next item is the report (Doc.
For det andet, vil han og Kommissionen fortsat told- og afgiftsfrit importere uønskede kornprodukter og kornerstatninger, som har skabt størstedelen af vore problemer i løbet af de sidste ti år?
A332/91) by Mr Vázquez Fouz, on behalf of the Committee on Agriculture, Fisheries and Rural De velopment, on the proposals from the Commission to the Council for:
Må jeg også stille et spørgsmål om prisnedsættelser for forbrugeren — hvordan skal landbrugerne have kompensation her for?
I. a directive amending Directive 77/93/EEC on protective measures against the introduction into the Member States of organisms harmful to plants and plant products (COM(89) 646 final — Doc. C3-42/ 90)
Jeg fandt, at det afsnit i kommissærens tale, der handlede om dette, mildt sagt var uklart.
And thirdly, does the Commissioner think Spain, which joined the Common Market six years ago and is still in a transitional stage, is covered by the GATT for agricultural prices and for the budgetary deficit in the face of this reform of the CAP ?
Er det hans plan at ændre alt det, der er gjort indtil nu, og som har vist sig at være katastrofalt for familiebrugene?
Does the Commissioner not believe that the transitional period for full membership for most of Spanish Mediterranean agriculture should be extended up to the end of 1992?
Vil tingenes nye orden blive denne — vil der blive tale om direkte støtte, som blot er social bistand forklædt bag et andet navn, ekstensivering, miljøvenligt landbrug, udvikling af landdistrikterne — og førtidspensionering?
II. a directive amending Directive 77/93/EEC on protective measures against the introduction into the Member States of organisms harmful to plants or plant products (COM(89) 647 final — Doc. C3-44/ 90)
Er det nu det, der vil komme på tale? Et miskmask af denne art fra Kommissionen, der — som jeg siger — efter ti års ulykker, hvor de små landbrugere et blevet udslettet, nu kommer ind for at gøre jobbet færdigt, når man faktisk har set lyset og ved, hvilken vej, der er den rigtige, men man ved blot ikke rigtig, hvor dan man skal nå frem til den.
GARCIA (LDR). — (PT) I just want to ask the Commission if it intends to raise indirect factors like the cost to the common agricultural policy of the preferential agreements with third countries, for example, Mediterranean ones, by product and by Member State.