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Sir Leon BRITTAN. — (EN) De priser, der er blevet tilbudt, er ikke normale markedspriser.
BRITTAN, Sir Leon. — The prices that have been offered are not normal market prices.
Ifølge de resultater, en ekspertarbejdsgruppe under agenturets rådgivende
According to the findings of an expert working group of the agency's advisory committee, these prices are well below the production costs of the lowest cost producers in market economy countries.
Mener Kommissionen ikke, at det af hensyn til princippet om solidaritet og målet med økonomisk og social samhørighed vil være hensigtsmæssigt at opretholde og udbygge jern- og stålsektoren, der er af så stor betydning for den spanske stat?
Furthermore, he has commissioned dual reports from the Atkins consultancy to back up his views, which — surprise, surprise — coincide with the interests of the large oligarchies and the pressure groups in the European steel industry.
Forsøger kommissæren at sige til os, at der finder urandumping sted, hvilket nedsætter produktionsomkostningerne?
The Basque Country cannot survive in a Europe run by politicians such as the Commissioner.
Det, der virkelig bekymrer mig, er, hvor overskuddet vil havne?
He should resign, I repeat, he should resign.
Hvor mener kommissæren, at der er udsigt til overskud?
When are you going to resign.
De bør gå af.
Commissioner?
Sir Leon BRITTAN. — (EN) Jeg tror ikke, jeg kan besvare det spørgsmål, for mit ansvar er at besvare spørgsmål vedrørende agenturets politik.
BRITTAN, Sir Leon. — I do not think I can answer that question because my responsibility is to answer on the policy of the agency.
Det, jeg sagde, mindede faktisk om de formuleringer, man bruger om dumping, men det er ikke formelt det, vi taler om; det vil måske interesse det ærede medlem at høre, at importen af naturlig og beriget uran til De Forenede Stater fra et antal republikker i det tidligere USSR blev gjort til genstand for en antidumpingprocedure, og at der den 20. maj 1992 blev truffet en afgørelse for at fastsætte en foreløbig antidumping-told på 115,82%.
I used language which certainly reflects the language of dumping but it is not formally that that we are talking about; it might interest the honourable Member to know that in the United States the imports of natural and enriched uranium from a number of republics in the former USSR were the subject of an anti-dumping procedure and a decision was taken on 29 May 1992 to set a provisional anti-dumping duty of 115.82%.
Det illustrerer det forhold, at vi ikke taler om en situation, hvor Fællesskabet ensidigt indtager en alt for restriktiv eller protektionistisk holdning over for dette.
That isan illustration of the fact that we are not talking about a situation in which the Community unique ly is taking an unduly restrictive or protectionist attitude towards this.
Det blev fastslået, at for perioden 16. oktober 1992 til 30. marts 1993 var markedsprisen som fastlagt af De Forenede Staters myndigheder alt for lav til at gøre det muligt for SNG-republikkerne at få nogen kvote.
It was found that for the period 16 October 1992 to 30 March 1993 the market price as determined by the United States authorities was too low to allow any quota to the CIS republics.
Det er faktisk det, der foregår.
That is really what is going on.
FORMANDEN. — Da spørgeren ikke er til stede, vil spørgsmål nr. 51 blive besvaret skriftligt. (')
PRESIDENT. — As the author is not present, Question No 51 will be answered in writing. (')
Spørgsmål nr. 52 af Landa Mendibe (H-l 112/92):
Question No 52 by Mr Landa Mendibe (H-l 112/92)
Sir Leon BRITTAN. — (EN) Svaret er, at det har jeg ingen planer om.
BRITTAN, Sir Leon. — The answer is that I have no intention of doing so.
Jeg respekterer og forstår det ærede medlems dybe følelser, og selv om han ikke respekterer min opfattelse, så respekterer jeg sandelig hans.
I respect and understand the honourable Member's depth of feeling and if he does not respect my view I certainly do respect his.
Sandheden er, at Kommissionen har en forpligtelse over for den europæiske stålindustri som helhed til at sikre, at der er rimelige konkurrencevilkår, og den opfattelse, Kommissionen har dannet sig, sigter ikke imod nogen særlig del af Spanien.
The fact of the matter is that the Commission has a duty to the European steel industry as a whole to ensure that conditions of fair competition exist, and the view that the Commission has taken does not refer to any particular part of Spain.
Den fremlægger ikke et særligt forslag om, hvilke ændringer der bør foretages, enten med hensyn til omfanget af bistand eller den form for omstrukturering, der skal finde sted.
It does not put forward a particular proposal as to what changes should be made either in the level of aids or in the type of restructuring that should take place.
Der står simpelt hen, at forholdet i det foreliggende forslag mellem omfanget af støtte og af omstrukturering må forbedres.
It simply says that the relation in the present proposal between the aid intensity and the extent of the restructuring needs to be improved.
Det kan man gøre på flere forskellige måder.
That could be dealt with in a number of ways.
Det kan ske ved en reduktion af støtten. Det kan i stedet eller samtidig ske ved en ændring af forslagene om omstrukturering.
It can be dealt with by a reduction in the aid.
Det er den opfattelse, Kommissionen vil fremlægge for Ministerrådet.
This is the view that the Commission will put forward to the Council of Ministers.
Det ærede medlem vil være opmærksom på, at Ministerrådet enstemmigt skal afgøre, hvordan sagen faktisk skal behandles.
The honourable Member will be aware that the Council of Ministers has to decide on a unanimous basis what the approach should actually be.
Hvorledes agter Kommissionen at beskytte den fri konkurrence inden for en så tydeligt oligopolistisk sektor som den integrerede jern- og stålindustri?
How does the Commission intend to safeguard free competition in a sector which is so markedly oligopolistic as the integrated steel industry?
McMAHON (S). — (EN) Vil kommissæren forsikre os om, at han vil behandle spanierne lidt venligere, end han gjorde med de stakkels fyrede stålarbejdere i
LANDA MENDIBE (NI). — (ES) With all due respect to Sir Leon Brittan, I was hoping that another Commission er would answer my questions, since he in the response he gave has not done so.
Se bilag »Spørgelid«
') See Annex "Question Time"
FORMANDEN. — Da følgende spørgsmål vedrører samme emne, vil vi underet behandle spørgsmål nr. 53 af Colom i Naval (H-l 118/92):
Did the reductions in capacity which formed part of the restructuring of Uva in 1983 represent a substantial part of the undertaking's total capacity? If so, what part?
Ravenscraig, og vil han huske på, at der også er sociale konsekvenser og findes bestemmelserom sociale forhold i Traktaten, og at dette spørgsmål ikke bare kan afgøres på basis af bogholderi og konkurrence?
Finally I want to ask the Commissioner whether he thinks an unemployed person in these regions is in the same position as an unemployed person in the centre of the European Community.
Om: Jern- og stålindustrien
Question No 56 by Mr Bofill Abeilhe (H-l 124/92) Subject: Steel industry
Hvilken støtte er blevet godkendt til den italienske jern- og stålindustri?
It would also be interesting to know whether, in relation to the restructuring of the Spanish steel industry, the Commission has applied the same criteria to determine the amount of the aid.
Hvorledes blev denne støtte kvantificeret? spørgsmål nr. 54 af Miranda De Lage (H-l 120/92): Om: Jern- og stålindustrien
Question No 57 by Mrs Diihrkop Diihrkop (H-l 126/92) Subject: Steel industry
GARCIA ARIAS (S). — (ES) Jeg vil gerne spørge kommissæren, om man i Kommissionens politik tager hensyn til principperne om lighed i behandlingen, for så vidt angår omstruktureringen af den italienske jern- og stålindustri, og så vidt angår støtten til og processen i retning af en omstrukturering.
BRITTAN Sir Leon, — That is exactly the problem, namely that one has to have regard to people all over the Community. I am sure the honourable Member would agree that it is not a solution that could be acceptable in the Community to transfer unemployment from one part of the Community to another.
Samtidig vil jeg gerne spørge Kommissionen, om den ikke lægger vægt på de regionale indvirkninger og andre omstruktureringer, som finder sted i de to spanske regioner, Baskerlandet og Asturien — ligesom den lægger vægt på princippet om økonomisk og social samhørighed i Fællesskabet, hvilket giver sig udslag i en særbehandling på det regionalpolitiske område.
That is the difficulty we have and I am sure that she, as a Member of this Parliament, having worked for some while with people from all over the Community, will see that there will be other honourable Members representing other parts of the Community who will be very anxious that their constituents should not be put out of work as a result of something that is done in Spain.
Hvilken kapacitetsreduktion er blevet foreslået eller krævet for at give de øvrige EF-industrier kompensation for den tilkendte støtte?
What reduction in capacity in comparison with the capacity of the undertakings is offered by the Spanish plan?
spørgsmål nr. 55 af de la Cámara Martínez (H-l 122/92): Om: Jern- og stålindustrien
PRESIDENT. — As they deal with the same subject, the following questions will be taken together.
spørgsmål nr. 56 af Bofill Abeilhe (H-l 124/92): Om: Jern- og stålindustrien
Question No 54 by Mrs Miranda de Lage (H-l 120/92) Subject: Steel industry
Har Kommissionen desuden i forbindelse med omstruktureringen af den spanske jern- og stålindustri henholdt sig til de samme kriterier, for så vidt angår fastsættelsen af støttens størrelse?
What voluntary or compulsory reductions in capacity were made to compensate other Community industries for the aids authorized?
og spørgsmål nr. 57 af Dührkop Dührkop (H-l 126/92): Om: Jern- og stålindustrien
1122/92) Subject: Steel industry
Sir Leon BRITTAN. — (EN) Det er præcis det, der er problemet, nemlig at man må tage hensyn til menneskene i hele Fællesskabet.
COLOM I NAVAL (S). — (ES) Comparable is not synonymous with equal, Mr Commissioner, and of course each case is special, with its own circumstances.
Den opgave, Kommissionen har, og det er en vanskelig opgave og én, som ikke gør os populære hos alle hele tiden, er at forsøge at holde denne balance. Men hun kan naturligvis regne med, at det ikke bare er Kommissionen, der træffer denne afgørelse.
That is why I have asked him for information and criteria for quantifying certain kinds of aid.
rimelig og retfærdig behandling, som kan sammen lignes med den måde, hvorpå den italienske jern- og stålvirksomhed FINSIDER-ILVA blev behandlet i forbindelse med sin anden omstrukturering i 1989.
We use ours and the Council has to use its own. In the case of Finsider-Ilva in 1989 total aids approved amounted to about ECU 3,300m nearly all of which was for the financial restructuring of the company.
De sagde, at der er store forskelle mellem de spanske og de italienske planer. Jeg kunne godt lide at vide. hvori disse forskelle består.
There was a reduction on hot-rolled capacity of 1.2 million tonnes but, as all involved parties were aware, the closure of upstream steel making at Bagnoli would in the medium term remove the economic case for the continued operation of the hot-wired strip mill at the same site, thereby increasing the total reduction in hot-rolled capacity to 2.4 million tonnes.
Og vi vil gerne have et konkret svar og ikke blot høre almindeligheder.
Those are the bare facts but, of course the situation has completely changed.
Det ser ud som om, at man ønsker at skjule oplysningerne for os.
We have to look at the market as well.
Hvilken kapacitetsreduktion påtænkes i planen for Spanien, set i forhold til virksomhedens samlede kapacitet?
The honourable Member will be well aware that the steel industry in Europe at the moment is in a very parlous condition, quite different from that which was the case in 1989.
Sir Leon BRITTAN. — (EN) Det ærede medlem har ret til at fremsætte sin kritik.
The problem that it presents relates to the competition else where in the Community.
Han er udmærket bekendt med den spanske plan, for den er offentliggjort, og tallene er fremlagt, og jeg har lige givet det ærede medlem, der stillede det forrige spørgsmål, detaljerede tal med hensyn til Italien.
The honourable Member has referred to exports from other countries into the Com munity.
Somme tider kan sammenligninger være nyttige, og man må tage dem med i betragtning, når det er passende, men man må huske på, at der ikke er to tilfælde af omstrukturering, der er identiske.
It is being tackled but that will not solve the problem of the position of Spain vis-à-vis its partners in the European Community.
Desuden er den aktuelle situation på Fællesskabets marked meget anderledes end den, der herskede, da FINSIDER-ILVA-sagen blev afgjort, hvor der var boom på Fællesskabets stålmarked.
de la CÁMARA MARTINEZ (S). — (ES) I am really rather surprised to find Sir Leon Brittan producing a group of generalizations as a first global response, and apparently only giving specific replies if we question him again.
MIRANDA DE LAGE (S). — (ES) Den nedskæring i arbejdsstyrken, som foreslås i den plan, som er fremlagt af den spanske regering, er på 40 %.
DÜHRKOP DÜHRKOP (S). — (ES) I would like to ask the Commission a very specific question.
Det ved kommissæren udmærket, og der er tale om endnu en nedskæring, da der allerede fandt en meget alvorlig og hård nedskæring sted i årene 1984 til 1986.
What is its opinion of the mini-steelworks, a technological innovation offered by the Spanish iron and steel industry, which moreover would be the first plant of its kind in Europe?
Men kommissæren har gjort opmærksom på de nuværende problemer inden for Fællesskabets jern- og stålindustri.
You have spoken of the fact that there are great differ ences between the Spanish and the Italian plans.
Og de er utvivlsomt store. Men, hr. kommissær, skyldes disse problemer inden for jern- og stålsektoren ikke importen af store mængder stål fra østlandene?
I would be grateful if you would clarify for me what these differences are.
Det forekommer ikke rimeligt, at de lande, som for øjeblikket er ved at gennemføre noget så alvorligt som endnu en omstrukturering, skal betale regningen for østlandene.
And, please, could you answer specifically from the start, not generalize first and only give us the specific replies afterwards, in the end, as if you were hiding information from us?
Vi kan ikke komme meget længere end det forslag, som den spanske regering har fremsat, og som jeg støtter.
BRITTAN, Sir Leon. — We have not referred to it specifically in the opinion that we are giving to the Council.
Og man får utvivlsomt det indtryk, at vi skal betale regningen for østlandene, og det gælder ikke kun Spanien, men muligvis også andre fællesskabslande, som også har problemer inden for jern- og stålsektoren.
He is well aware of the Spanish plan because that is public and the figures have been given and I have just given the honourable Member who asked the previous question the detailed figures with regard to Italy.
COLOM I NAVAL (S). — (ES) Selv om forholdene kan sammenlignes, betyder det ikke, at de er ens, hr. kommissær, og hvert enkelt tilfælde er utvivlsomt specielt og indebærer særlige omstændigheder.
The question that the rest of the European industry is asking is: Is it fair that we should face competition from this advanced project if the advanced project is only capable of coming into existence with the assistance of money from the Spanish Government?
Jeg har derfor anmodet om oplysninger og kriterier for en bestemt form for støtte.
We have not specifically referred to that project.
Jeg ville da på grundlag af egne kriterier straks kunne se, om der er sket en form for politisk forfordeling.
We have said that the balance between the aid and the restructuring is at present not sufficient and needs to be improved.
Jeg vil følgelig på ny spørge, om De kan give mig de konkrete oplysninger, jeg har bedt om.
It could be done by changing that project; it could be done in other ways.
Så vil jeg straks kunne se, om omstændighederne har været de samme eller ikke.
Our proposition is a general one, the implications and the alternatives will have to be discussed in the Council which, as I have said, has to reach a decision on the basis of unanimity.
Det problem, det rejser, har at gøre med konkurrencen andre steder i Fællesskabet.
The Commission er knows this very well, and this is a second reduction, because the one that took place between 1984 and 1986 was also very serious and very severe.
Det ærede medlem har henvist til eksport fra andre lande til Fælles skabet.
The Commission er has highlighted the problems of iron and steel in the Community today.
Det har hun ganske ret i.
There are certainly many.
Den eksport repræsen terer et problem, og det er noget, der bør gøres noget ved. Det er man ved at gøre, men det vil ikke løse problemet med Spanien over for dets partnere i Fællesskabet.
But, Com missioner, are not these iron and steel problems caused by the entry of large quantities of steel from the countries of Eastern Europe?
Der er mange måder, hvorpå planen kan modificeres, så man tager højde for dette.
We cannot go beyond the proposal made by the Spanish government, which I support.
Sir Leon BRITTAN. — (EN) Det ærede medlem har ganske ret. Enhver må udøve sit eget skøn.
SMITH, Llewllyn (S). — The Commissioner said that he was concerned about the problems of unemployment.
Det gør vi også, og Rådet må gøre ligeså. I tilfældet FINSIDER-ILVA i 1989 beløb den samlede støtte sig til ca. 3.300 mio ECU, der alle sammen gik til finansiel omstrukturering af selskabet.
How is he going to persuade those steel workers in South-East Wales who are threatened by redundancies in areas which already have over 20% male unemployment that he indeed is fighting on their behalf?
de la CÁMARA MARTÍNEZ (S). — (ES) Jeg er faktisk en smule overrasket, da Sir Leon Brittan først gav et generelt svar og kom med en masse almindeligheder, og det lader til, at vi bliver nødt til at spørge igen for at få et
BRITTAN, Sir Leon. — Were that to be the case it would be quite wrong but in view of what the honourable Member has just said, I hope she will forgive me for repeating a very important part of the answer that I gave to the previous question, namely that we acknowledge
DÜHRKOP DÜHRKOP (S). — (ES) Jeg vil gerne stille Kommissionen et konkret spørgsmål: Hvad er kommissærens mening om det mini-stålværk, som ville betyde en teknologisk fornyelse for den spanske jern- og stålindu-
BRITTAN, Sir Leon. — The honourable Gentleman may have been a little dozey over the last few years but I am not a member of the government to which the honourable
DÜHRKOP DÜHRKOP stri, og som desuden ville blive det første værk af sin art i Europa?
The kind of concerns that the honourable Gentleman has expressed have been voiced in many parts of Europe in relation to the Spanish plan and they will be aired and discussed and I hope an equitable and acceptable way forward can be found in the Council of Ministers.
hvorpå vi kan skaffe en effektiv regionalpolitik, ja, men når man taler om konkurrence i de forskellige dele af Fællesskabet, kan man ikke bare ignorere det ansvar, vi har over for stålindustrien og de mennesker, der arbejder i den over hele Fællesskabet.
dairy spreads, the indications are that within a gradually declining yellow fats market, consumption of butter is declining, margarine is broadly retaining its market share and there is a significant growth in the consumption of reduced fat and mixed fat products.
Hvad angår spørgsmålet om, hvorvidt vi til syvende og sidst vil have en hensigtsmæssig stålindustri, så er problemerne ganske betydelige.
This trend is a reflection of changing consumer preferences influenced by the association of low fat and vegetable fat products with a healthier diet.
Vi er nogle, der i dag har drøftet dem med stålindustrien.
The yellow fats market is character ized by a wide range of products with varying constituents and descriptions.
Jeg håber, vi vil være i stand til at finde en vej frem, som sikrer, at der fortsat vil være en konkurrencedygtig stålindustri i Fællesskabet.
The need to provide more information to the consumer and to bring about fairer competition in the market motivated the Commission to make a proposal earlier this year on the designation of yellow fats.
Sir Leon BRITTAN. — (EN) Vi har ikke nævnt det specielt i den udtalelse, vi har fremsendt til Rådet.
CRAMPTON (S). — Two rather more general questions, Mr Commissioner.
Hvis det var uden statsstøtte, ville der overhovedet ikke være noget problem.
Is he confident that with the sort of restructuring we have, whether state or private, we are going to end up with a recovery programme backed by an adequate steel industry?
Kan Kommissionen i betragtning af den omfattende stigning i importen til EF af sojabønner oplyse, hvad olien fra denne import anvendes til?
As the Commissioner is aware, there has been a considerable fall in the consumption of butter, partly due I would say to medical reasons but also because of the competition from cheaper vegetable oil imports, which has had a marked detrimental effect on the livelihoods of dairy farmers.
Hvor mange tons vegetabilske olier, herunder sojabønneolie, anvendes til fremstillingen af »margarineprodukter«, og i hvilket omfang har disse produkter erstattet forbruget af smør fremstillet i EF?
I would be glad if the Commission, even at a later stage, could provide that specific information as to the actual amount of these imported oils that are being used in the socalled spreads.
Det spørgsmål, resten af industrien i Europa stiller sig, er følgende: Er det fair, at vi skal konkurrere med dette avancerede projekt, hvis det kun kan sættes i værk med finansiel støtte fra den spanske regering?
BRITTAN, Sir Leon. — The honourable Gentleman will know what the Commission's views are on spending on the peripheral areas.
Det er et meget vanskeligt spørgsmål at besvare.
Its support for cohesion policy needs no underlining but if it assists I am very happy to repeat it today and indeed to give my personal support for that.
Det kan gøres ved at ændre projektet; det kan gøres på andre måder.
We have been discussing them, some of us with the steel industry today.
Vort forslag er af generel karakter, implikationerne og alternativerne må drøftes i Rådet, der som sagt skal nå frem til en enstemmig afgørelse.
I hope we will be able to find a way forward which ensures that there will continue to be a viable steel industry in the Community.
Llewellyn SMITH (S). — (EN) Kommissæren sagde, at han var bekymret over arbejdsløshedsproblemerne.
PRESIDENT. — Question No 58 by Mr Maher (H1052/92)
Sir Leon BRITTAN. — (EN) Det ærede medlem har måske sovet lidt i det de sidste par år, men jeg er ikke medlem af den regering, som det ærede medlem henviser til, og jeg svarer på vegne af Kommissionen, der har til opgave at tage sig af problemet med det spanske stål.
BRITTAN, Sir Leon. — I am aware that the information I have given has not been exactly what the honourable Member has asked for but the position is that sales of mixed fat spreads have increased as sales of butter have declined.
Det varierer med mængden af det, der kommer retur fra forskellige afsætningskanaler på et givet tidspunkt, og tilgængelig heden af andre former for vegetabilsk olie.
That is why no information as to the tonnage of any particular constituent can be obtained.
Importen af sojabønner, der steg fra 12,5 mio tons i 1991 til 14,9 mio tons i 1992-93, bliver ikke i første række påvirket af behovet for sojaolie, men snarere af deres anvendelse til dyrefoder.
Production and sales of these products are not covered by any statutory reporting procedure and therefore — I have to be quite honest — the Commission is not aware of their market penetration.
Markedet for gule fedtstoffer er karakteriseret ved et stort udbud af produkter med forskellige ingredienser og specifikationer.
Taking account of the substantial increase in the level of imports into the Community of soya beans, can the Commission say what use is being made of the oil from these imports?