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Vi vil vide, hr. formand — og spørgsmålet er i første række rettet til hr. Delors — om et stærkt Europa er muligt med et »uansvarligt« Råd — som hr. Prout hele tiden har kaldt del; om et stærkt Europa er muligt — for det er det, vi taler om — uden en europæisk regering — som vi alle ønsker — uden demokrati, uden respekt for de demokratiske regler og med et magtesløst Par lament; om det er muligt at gennemføre Fællesakten uden demokrati; om det er muligt at fremme de pro blemer, der er rejst her, såsom det sociale Europa snarere end det økonomiske, købmændenes Europa snarere end fredens Europa, uden demokratiske institutioner. tutioner.
Consequently, in addition to the arguments brought forward by Mr Graziani, who points out that once this large market has been established, it will be necessary to think in terms of giving the Commission greater powers, who points out, rightly, that 80% of decisions ought to be taken here (it would clearly be unacceptable both to us and to European citizens to have a situation in which 80% of the legislation of direct concern to them was adopted by a caucus that was not accountable before any democratically elected assembly), we must press this fresh argument that has just been handed to us by the Court.
Vi forventer ikke forslag for i morgen, men forslag for i dag.
They are allowing us, in this instance and any where institutional problems are involved, to adopt an autonomous stance.
Vi er de første til at støtte ham, når han fastslår nødvendigheden af en stærk regering, en ansvarlig regering, en beslutningsdygtig regering.
The Spanish section will be voting in favour of the Graziani, Valverde and Planas report. In so doing it
Sutra de Germa (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg glæder mig som hr. Pannella over, at Kommissionens for mand har været til stede under hele denne institutionelle forhandling.
What it is not possible to imagine is that one could create an economic union without social, cultural, legal and political consequences.
Det har han for øvrigt også været under alle de tidligere forhandlinge om institutioner ne.
It is not possible to ignore the inevitable and negative effects that might be produced in the midst of the all-round advantages.
Endvidere beklager jeg, at Rådet ikke er repræsenteret. teret.
In saying this, it is obvious we are not necessarily in support of socialist red-tape solutions. Perish the thought!
Man kan ikke vente til 1993 for at få en stærk regering, som hr. Delors gerne så.
Let us avoid attitudes of absolute right and absolute wrong.
Kære kolleger, der er aldrig blevet talt så meget om Brugge siden Memlings billeder.
Ringing in my ears is the illustrious and noble voice of Lord Plumb saying: 'I was born British, I shall die a European.'
Herman (PPE). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, jeg synes, at Graziani-betænkningen korrekt opridser den lære, vi kan drage af Den Fælles Akt.
tice's decision — the decision on committology — in which our action was found inadmissible on the ground that, having regard to Article 73 of the Treaty, we were neither a private party having legal personal ity nor one of the institutions able to avail themselves of that article and were therefore not entitled to institute such proceedings.
Jeg vil ikke kommentere denne betænkning, idet jeg fuldt og helt tilslutter mig den: Jeg vil blot tilføje nogle bemærkninger. ninger.
In other words, we could not be the active party in a case.
På en måde kan vi takke fru Thatcher for, at debatten er i gang overalt.
PUERTA GUTIERREZ (COM). — (ES) Mr President, we rally to the basic arguments in the three reports.
Da denne debat begyndte for nogle år siden, sagde man her i denne sal, at den var forbeholdt nogle få europæiske kredse.
It all hangs together with the position of the United Left in this Parliament and the Parliamentarians Congress in Spain where we recently submitted a proposal on European Union.
Ikke blot har den vundet indpas i Parlamentet, men i dag bør vi takke dem. der hæver debatten.
We were defending the idea of starting the groundwork at the next European elections.
Jeg ventede ikke så meget fra hr. Martens' side efter det belgiske formandskab.
If the Court were to treat this ruling as precedent, par ticularly in the action currently pending before it, the postChernobyl case, on which we have to give instructions by 6 November, if the Court were to stick to this line, we would be left completely powerless to institute proceedings in any meaningful way.
Tak til ham for hans indlæg og til flere andre. Hr. Kohl sagde det klart, i dag er debatten i gang alle steder.
The illogicality of this is all the greater in that we can be taken before the Court, although we cannot bring an action ourselves; in particular, we cannot proceed against the Council when we think it is in contravention of the Treaties.
Specielt til hr. Prout, der i formiddags præsterede et bemærkelsesværdigt eksempel på balancekunst, og som havde fortjent et bedre emne til sin præstation, vil jeg gerne helt klart sige, at Den Fælles Akt hver ken er eller bliver et spisekort, der kan vælges fra, aldrig!
I understand that the Court is referring us to the Com mission, saying that the Commission is the guarantor of the Treaty, the custodian of the Treaty, and is there to defend our interests. That broadly is what the Court is saying.
Det sociale Europa er nævnt i Den Fælles Akt, og Den Fælles Akt er ikke kun et marked.
But what happens when, as in the Chernobyl case, the Commission's position is diametrically opposed to ours?
Det er grundlaget for vor debat.
It has its own job to do, and that is its absolute right.
De, der har indgået den, kan ikke melde fra.
We have our own job to do, as is our absolute right.
Ellers vil det være groft brud på ord holdenheden fra et lands side, der har lært os at respektere Traktaterne og disses underskrifter.
From another mountain top, in terms of ideological differences, I wish to congratulate my colleague Mr Valverde.
Britisk højre har nok sine fejl, men man kan ikke frakende denne fløj, at den aldrig på ringeste måde er gået på akkord med fascismen, og da der blev talt om Trak taten som en lap papir, så var det ikke fra den kant, men fra salens modsatte side.
In his report he analyses structural prob lems and makes special reference to unemployment, highlighting the awe-inspiring nature of the phenomenon right through 1987.
Det, der bør understreges i denne betænkning, er, at den rigtigt viser, at for at Fællesakten skal blive en succes, må man klart og tydeligt og allerede nu forberede de institutionelle ændringer, der vil følge.
We applaud this initiative and are pleased that, on the Democratic Right, they are able to coincide here with the Left's sensitivity and entirely reasonable aspirations.
Jeg vil gerne tilføje, at hr. Prout i formiddags sagde: Man skal lave taget før murene.
My question is very specific. What is your view, Mr President, of this decision?
Lad os sige, at vort europæiske bygningsværk fortjener det allerbedste tag.
What suggestions do you have to enable us to bring valid actions before the Court, without having to go through you?
Vi må hellere bruge skifer end strå.
I continue to believe that it is.
Men lad os navnlig ikke råbe »Thatcher« for at få lagt dette »thatchroof«.
So let us be given the right to bring an action as and when we see fit.
Det vil ikke være det hus værdigt, som vi skal opføre, vel?
I am sure you will have an answer for me, Mr President, and thank you in advance.
Så vil jeg gerne sige, at gruppen støtter Graziani- og Valverde Lopez-betænkningerne.
Where we stand we see the Community's future as the upshot of integrated political, economic and social development.
Det drejer sig ikke kun om at give Parlamentet flere beføjelser!
Goodwill on its own is not enough to get there.
Når man i dag læser Domstolens dom, kan man udlægge den således: »De har ikke brug for at kunne angribe Rådet, for Kommissionens er der til at forsvare Dem.
We need a clear and energetic policy that can count on the maximum backup.
Hvis Kommissionen ikke forsvarer Dem, så afsæt den!« Jeg læser hurtigt, det er en smule karikerende, men man kan ikke holde raffinerede taler på tre og et halvt minut, derfor er det den politiske konklusion.
From this point of view I can but rejoice at the words that fell from the lips of Mr Fraga.
Men jeg siger, at denne konklusion er umulig både for Kommissionen og for os.
He must surely have read attentively all the proposals in the Valverde report.
Da vi har ret til at sanktionere Kommissionen, kan vi heller ikke regne med den til at forsvare os over for Rådet! Det er heller ikke
Some of these are still with us in our cultural community.
Jeg vil endvidere fremsætte en enkelt lille kritik til hr. Graziani: Især ingen pessimisme!
DONNEZ (LDR). — (FR) Mr President, since we are dealing with institutional matters, I wish to draw Par liament's attention to an oral question tabled by my Group at my instigation following the Court of Jus
Især må vi ikke træde frem for vore vælgere ved valget til Europa-Parlamentet for at sige, at Parlamentet ikke har nogen magt.
VAN DER LEK (ARC). — (NL) Mr President, our Group does not want a European Union.
Med de samme tal kan man sige både det ene og det andet.
We have been hearing many enthusiastic tales about it.
Lad os ikke være pessimister med hensyn til vor egen handling, og lad os klart sige, at Europa-Parlamentet ved Den Europæiske Akt har fået virke lig magt.
What we do want is that in those spheres there should be proper parliamentary control and that what is taken away from the national parliaments is truly restored at European level.
Jeg vil slutte med at sige, at vi støtter denne betænkning, men at vi i forbindelse med valget til Europa-Parlamentet vil benytte den magt, Europa-Parlamentet har fået, i vor kampagne og ikke blot de beføjelser, det fremdeles mangler.
This is not altogether the present situation. The fact that we are not for European Union has nothing to do with nationalism — I say this to Mr Nord, among others — but is because of the present ten dency to build up a kind of West-European super-
Følgelig er det altså vigtigt til alle disse argumenter at føje et nyt, som Domstolen nu giver os.
Regarding the proposals before us, I would make three observations.
Frage Iribarne (ED). — (ES) Hr. formand, jeg har den ære at tale på vegne af den spanske sektion, Alianza Popular, af Den Europæiske Demokratiske Gruppe, og jeg ønsker offentligt at takke vore britiske medlemmer, der ud fra deres positive opfattelse af fair play tillader os i dette tilfælde såvel som i alle andre institutionelle spørgsmål at indtage en selv stændig holdning.
The first is that the Single European Act, if we don't watch out, is likely to be a pig in a poke. Judging by what is at present forthcoming from the cooperation procedure owing to the lack of openness on the part of the Council, which is not open to consultation and gives no reasons for its constant rejection of Parliament's proposals, this means that we are not co-legislators. lators.
Med ovennævnte udtalelse støtter vi klart nok ikke socialiserende løsninger — der ligger os fjernt! — lige så lidt som bureaukratiske.
This does not mean that we do not consider the present institutional structure susceptible of improvement.
I dag findes der et europæisk samfund med fælles demografiske problemer, fælles problemer med hensyn til fa miliestruktur, uddannelse, fagforeninger, og også so ciale konflikter.
It would, however, be an important step forward if there was recognition that Parliament's role must be different from that of the national parliaments.
Jeg vil gerne her citere Parlamentets formand.
It is precisely in close cooperation with the national parliaments that the European Parliament's future lies.
Lord Plumb, der var i stand til ærværdigt og fornemt at sige: »Jeg blev født britisk, jeg dør som europæer«.
The European Parliament ought to seek its strength in a concrete elaboration of this idea.
Jeg ønsker at pointere, at min måde at være europæer på er at være spansk, og jeg føler mig desuden mere spansk, jo mere europæisk jeg er i stand til at være.
That need not rule out restoration of the Commission's position, certainly not when one considers its central role in the operation of the internal market.
Det er velkendt, at » Minervas ugle flyver ved skumringstid«.
My second remark is that, in a number of areas, we shall definitely seek to prevent Parliament from acquiring powers, for instance in military matters.
Visdom erhverves næsten altid for sent.
The Community must not become a military union.
Lad os ikke denne gang komme for sent til den erkendelse, at Europa er nødvendigt, nu og netop nu!
Nor must it become a union with a joint police force, joint prosecution of drugtakers, joint administration of justice, abolition of the particular customs of each nationality.
(Bifald fra højre)
This we shall oppose to the very last.
Den spanske sektion vil stemme for Graziani, Val verde- og Planas-betænkningerne, og dermed bekræfter den formelt sit engagement i opbygningen af en europæisk union.
In conclusion, it is not in a concentration of powers at European level but in their sound distribution between the European institutions and the independent Mem ber States that the solution lies to the institutional question of the European Community.
Beklageligvis opnåede dette forslag støtte fra alle par lamentariske grupper med undtagelse af PSOE. der stemte imod med hele den vægt. som dets absolutte flertal giver.
Not only did she sign it but she also ensured that there would be little discussion on it in Westminster by imposing a guillotine on the debate there.
Ligesom hr. Graziani er også vi overbeviste om. at Den Europæiske Fælles Akt ikke er på højde med Fællesskabets behov.
VAN DER WAAL (NI). — (NL) Mr President, it is remarkable that the British Prime Minister's speech in Bruges has called forth such indignant reactions.
Derfor går vi i overensstemmelse med hans fremragende betænkning ind for at op bygge Den Europæiske Union som en foderal politisk enhed med et avanceret socialt demokratis karakteristika. ristika.
From the fierceness of the reactions to Mrs Thatcher's speech one gets the impression that, in the debate on the shape to be given to European cooperation, there is in fact no room any more for such ideas, as if it were essential to believe in a politically united Europe.
Det er et velkendt faktum, at historisk set er der ten dens til, at en integration finder sted gradvist.
She is being her normal two-faced self by making statements which are purely for British consumption.
Indretningen af samfundene kunne ikke være den samme i dag som i palæolitikum, da der i hele verden var færre indbyggere, end der nu alene er i Mexico City.
She raises problems, however, not only for the Heads of State but for the Tory Group over there.
I dag er der 5 mia indbyggere i verden, og samfunds strukturerne må nødvendigvis ændres.
The obsequious ones in that Group who are ambitious for off ice do not know which way to jump now.
En af de første moderne stater.
I know he made a nonspeech today but let me quote what he said to us here in July last year.
Vi er ligeledes loyale over for vores folk, fødeby, hjemegn og region, men vi er os bevidste, at samtidig med at disse enheder bevares, integreres de i andre i hver ny historisk fremskridtsfase.
It is a fact that those both for and against political unification of Europe can invoke the Treaties to support their political objectives.
Vores generation har stået over for den udfordring — som måske er et privilegium — at skabe større ligevægt mellem styringsniveauer.
It is, however, beyond dispute that the Treaties allow integration to go no further or less far than the Member States themselves desire.
Under og over nationalstaten, der i fire århundreder har været den ene
The past decades in particular have demonstrated this.
Med henblik på det indre
She made that plain in Bruges and in Italy.
En klar og energisk politik med størst mulig opbakning er nødvendig.
Are you in favour of European Union or are you just in favour of continuing as a Group leader?
Ud fra dette synspunkt kan jeg kun glæde mig over, hvad der netop er blevet sagt af hr. Fraga, der uden tvivl har læst alle forslagene i hr. Valverdes betænkning meget omhyggeligt, og som helt sikkert også accepterer værdierne ved Neolitikum, der jo fulgte efter Palæolitikum, hvoraf nogle stadig gør sig gældende i vores kulturelle fællesskab. Det var en periode med mange nyskabelser.
It would have been much better if you had stuck to your guns as Sir Fred Catherwood and some other Tories in your Group did. Perhaps, Mr Prout, you could announce at the start of each plenary session what line you will be taking that particular week.
Vi hører mange begejstrede beretninger herom.
Whatever she says publicly, do not worry.
Hvad vi vil, er en samarbcjdsforbindelse mellem vesteuropæiske lande, som har en række beføjelser på de områder, hvor det virkelig er nødvendigt.
The people who control her such as the banks, insurance companies and the financial people stand to benefit most from the Single European Act and they will bring her into line.
Hvad vi gerne vil have, er, at der på dette område finder en ordentlig parlamentarisk kontrol sted, og at det, som er fjernet fra de nationale parlamenter, også virkelig bliver gen nemført på europæisk plan.
Lord Cockfield has already said this in the Com mittee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and Industrial Policy.
Om de forslag, som foreligger her, vil jeg gøre tre bemærkninger.
You should not support these reports and I recommend that we do not support them.
Den første er, at Den Europæiske Fælles Akt, hvis vi ikke passer på, truer med at blive katten i sækken.
Many of you did. In addition, in March 1987, the President said: 'Let us get on with building a United States of Europe in the next three years.'
Dersom Domstolen opretholder denne praksis, navn lig i forbindelse med den i øjeblikket for Domstolen verserende sag, hvorom vi skal give vore mandanter instruktioner inden den 6. november, det er post-Tjernobyl-sagen, som jeg sagde, dersom Domstolen opretholder denne praksis, er vi fuldstændigt afskåret fra at føre en sag.
BLUMENFELD (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, it is always enlivening and at the same time amusing to listen to the British Members in this House, only I would like to say that Europe consists of more than the United Kingdom, and I am sure, Mr Seal, that your arguments would be more kindly received by us other Europeans if they were not concerned exclusively with the Head of your country's government.
Det er for øvrigt helt inkonsekvent, da vi kan indklages for Domstolen, men altså ikke kan anlægge sag og indklage Rådet, når vi mener, at det overtræder Traktaterne.
I asked to speak, Mr President, because I really wanted to speak on the Planas report; but I would also like to say a few preliminary words on both the Graziani report and the Valverde report.
Fællesskabet må ikke blive nogen militær union.
We want to be con structive inside the Community, believe it or not.
Det vil vi modsætte os til det sidste.
We support those objectives.
Den sidste bemærkning er, at hvis der ikke hurtigt føres en anden politik, truer dette Fællesskab med at blive en katastrofe for miljøet.
This is the second time that I have found the House very poorly attended during a debate on institutional questions.
Det er groft sagt det.
She is not concerned about sovereignty.
Men hvad så, når Kommissionen, som i Tjernobyl-sagen, har en opfattelse, der er stik modsat vor?
To turn now to what I really wanted to say concerning the excellent reports, including the Graziani one.
Da Kommissionen ikke er vort sekretariat, kan vi ikke bede den om at støtte vore interesser.
I think it would be better if we in this House had to produce 260 votes against measures submitted to us by the Council or the Commission.
Kom missionen har sin handlefrihed, det er dens gode ret.
That would be more in line with the pol itical resolve of this House, our Parliament.
Da den skriftlige forespørgsel er opført som fodnote, tvivler jeg ikke om, at hr. Delors vil give mig en for klaring.
Yet all of you oppose any kind of regional government for Scotland or for Wales and are in the act of abolishing key elements of Britain's local authorities.
Mit spørgsmål er ganske klart. Hvordan opfatter De, hr. formand, denne dom?
Whatever Mrs Thatcher states publicly is only aimed at diverting attention from a wrecked British economy, Mr Prout.
Hvilke forslag kan De give os, så vi kan føre sag ved Domstolen uden at gå igen nem Dem?
The balance of payments is out of control. Inflation is rising fast.
Det er ganske enkelt, vi vil gerne selv stå
Interest rates are at
Van der Waal (NI). — (NL) Hr. formand, det er bemærkelsesværdigt, at der er blevet reageret så for arget på den tale, som den britiske premierminister holdt i Brugge.
Now to Mr Planas' report. As you know I have con cerned myself with the question of political cooperation for many years.
Kort sagt et ikke-protektionistisk Europa og en afpolitisering af gennemførelsen af det
I must ask, how ever, whether it is the ill-will of the senior officials in the national governments that is to blame for the veil of silence that covers all the real issues that concern us
En opfattelse af det europæiske samarbejde og af Europas politiske fremtid, som vi støtter i store træk.
We wish to see our own political position given a prominent place in the debate.
Efter den skarphed at dømme, hvormed nogle reagerede på fru Thatchers tale, kunne man få indtryk af, at der egenlig ikke længere er plads til disse opfattelser i diskussionen om udformingen af det europæiske samarbejde, som om man skal tro på det politisk forenede Europa.
In our efforts together to solve a great many important problems, we must also take care not to develop over-restrictive legislation which in reality would act as an obstacle to equal opportunity and fair competition, which is the objective of much Com munity legislation.
Hun anvender igen sine sædvanlige to ansigter ved at fremsætte erklæringer, som udelukkende er beregnet på indenlandsk forbrug.
I must also ask, as Mr Planas asked, whether the political secretariat we were promised is functioning at all.
De følger blot Deres leder, og hr. Prout.
I hope that will happen in future.
Deres leder, har foretaget en kæmpemæssig kovending. Jeg ved. at han i dag har holdt en ikke-tale, men lad mig citere, hvad han sagde til os i juli i fjor.
All in all I consider that these reports are excellent, but that unfortunately this House has proven itself unworthy of them by its poor attendance.
Han sagde: »Det skal være Europa-Parlamentets rolle at fortsætte fremskridtet mod Europæisk Union.«
McMILLAN-SCOTT (ED). — For your information, Mr President, there are 21 Members of the European Democratic Group in the Chamber at present.
Men fru Thatcher ønsker ikke Europæisk Union. Det gjorde hun klart i Brugge og i Italien.
The Community has established a presence and has begun to be part of everyday life.
De har sandelig ændret holdning, hr. Prout!
A united Europe will thus be a fantastic power factor which it will be difficult to ignore, both in relations between the peoples of the Com munity and in relation to markets outside.
Det er en kendsgerning, at både tilhængere og mod standere af en politisk europæisk enhed kan påberåbe sig Traktaterne med hensyn til deres politiske mål. Det er imidlertid ubestrideligt, at Traktaterne tillader, at integrationen ikke går mere eller mindre vidt, end medlemsstaterne selv vil.
OPPENHEIM (ED). — (DA) Mr President, it is not surprising that the three reports on European Union reiterate what has always been the European Parliament's position on the Community's future.
Netop de forløbne årtier har vist dette.
A large majority in this Assembly want greater powers for the Community institutions.
Det er derfor forkert at hævde, at det økonomiske samarbejde allerede nu mere eller min dre automatisk skal følges af politisk integration, som det her hævdes.
That is entirely natural, but it is just as natural for the Members of the 12 national parliaments to have misgivings when it comes to giving away powers and influence.
Ofte påberåber man sig Genscher-Colombo-erklæringen.
But how is Europe, particularly the EC, to combine its forces and unite?