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Blot (DR). — (FR) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, jeg skal udtrykke mig kort.
MATTINA (S). — (IT) Mr President, I am sorry that Mr Langer should have found any similarity between myself and Mr Le Pen.
Jeg skal blot gøre opmærksom på, at det er paradoksalt, at vi nu, da de østeuropæiske folk frigør sig fra diktatur og i den grad higer efter ytringsfrihed, her i Strasbourg, i Vestens hjerte, i hjertet af den verden, der kalder sig fri, skal forsvare os mod et forsøg på at genindføre censur over for en politisk ansvarlig fra vores land, Frankrig.
way, in other words in a considerable way, to the creation of an anti-national feeling, is not to enter into an academic discussion on the respective merits of nationalism and internationalism; it is to take up a classical theme, a platitude, I would even say a cliche of antisemitism which was particularly widespread before the last war.
Af respekt for de grundlæggende frihedsrettigheder vil jeg følgelig stemme for Defraignebetænkningen.
I did not accuse anyone. I only said that, because of the way in which it was carried out, because of the massive resources that it mobilized, and because of the people that it involved — people implicated in Mafia files — thete was a certain economic activity that gave grounds for suspicions, and I therefore called on the Italian judicial authorities to carry out an investigation.
Så langt er vi heldigvis ikke kommet, men vores debat følger ikke desto mindre dette mønster, og stemmerne vil ligeledes blive optalt i forhold hertil : For ophævelse af Jean-Marie Le Pens parlamentariske immunitet talsmændene for terror og censur; imod ophævelse forsvarerne af frihed.
I am at a complete loss to know what I can do to make Mr Langer understand how different what I said in this question to the European Parliament is from what Mr Le Pen said, which has already been clearly illustrated by many honourable Members.
Roth (V). — (DE) Hr. Le Pen er især kendt for anti-semitisk hetz og nationalsocialistisk propaganda.
That is the point of the debate, Mr President.
Han kalder indvandrere for kameldrivere, som bør forlade Frankrig, lejlighedsvis mener han tillige jøderne.
That is why, with due respect to those who oppose in principle any waiver of parliamentary immunity, I believe that this thesis cannot be compared to the defence of freedom of expression. That is not what is at issue today.
Når han taler om mordet på millioner af mennesker i tyske koncentrationslejre, er det for ham en detalje i forbindelse med Anden Verdenskrig.
What is at issue, Mr President, is the fight against racism and antisemitism which Parliament, as an institution of the Community, began with the solemn declaration of 1986.
Han har engang kaldt socialdemokrater for »pædofile arabervenner med sadistiske tilbøjeligheder«.
It would be quite contradictory if we were on the one hand to fight this fight and on the other to allow precisely the object of our fight to develop freely.
Han laver ækle ordspil med navne, hvormed han håner ofrene for nationalsocialismen.
I would finally add that is astounding to see Mr Le Pen claim that he has never been condemned for antisemitism and to see him trying to avoid judicial clarification.
AIDS-patienter vil han anbringe i »sidatorier«, og han anbefaler »af med knoppen« mod kriminalitet.
That is why, together with the French radical members, I shall vote in favour of the request to waive Mr Le Pen's parliamentary immunity and against Mr Defraigne's report.
Hvis er skylden?
PRESIDENT.
Jødernes. Stem på det tyske folkeparti!« parti!«
I call Mr Ford.
Antony (DR). — (FR) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, når det franske retsvæsen nu anklager hr. Le Pen, burde det for konsekvensens skyld have rettet anklage mod mange andre.
LANGER (V). — (IT) Mr President, as a personal statement, I would only like to say to Mr Mattina, in all friendliness, that there probably really has been a misunderstanding.
Ligeledes mod rabbiner Grünewald, der i Le Monde opridsede en én-verden-filosofi.
With regard to the substance of what he said, I accept that he is right, and I said as much in this Parliament.
Le Pen og hans politiske venner udpeger entydigt dem, der er skyld i forkert politik. Set med deres øjne er de skyldige immigranterne, kvinderne, de homoseksuelle og de handicappede.
I say, however, that our Parliament must not become involved in any evaluation of the greater or lesser degree to which there is any foundation for the criminal allegations made.
Han fremkalder angst, ophidser til racehad og er dermed medansvarlig for de voldelige overgreb, for overfald, for mord og for den forfærdelige hverdag i EF.
This is not our job, and in this sense, having regard to what he said, I am on Mr Mattina's side; I think, however, that his immunity should have the same value as that of each one of us. That is all.
Mod en sådan politik, mod en sådan modbydelig ideologi må vi sætte alle kræfter ind.
PRESIDENT. — That clears up the matter.
Vi må ikke forholde os fredeligt over for noget sådant.
(Parliament rejected the proposal for a decision)
Vi må ikke tie, når det drejer sig om racisme, neofacisme, fremmedhad og seksuel diskriminering. Vi må ikke argumentere formelt demokratisk, og vi må under ingen omstændigheder i dette tilfælde skjule os bag immuniteten, som efter min mening i forvejen er en anakronisme.
GALLE (S), in writing. — (NL) I have abstained from voting because on the one hand I want to follow my group in rejecting this kind of declaration but on the other hand in my capacity as Chairman of the Committee on Rules of Procedure, Verification of Credentials and Immunities I feel that this time the rapporteut, Mr Defraigne, is very close to the truth when he says that the controversial statements are really an expression of his political philosophy.
Har formanden for Den Nationale Front måske angrebet samtlige internationale sammenslutninger?
PRESIDENT. — The next item is the recommendation for the second reading (Doc.
Nej, han har præciseret, at der blandt jøder såvel som blandt andre, findes fortalere for en én-verden opfattelse og fortalere for en patriotisk opfattelse.
A-35/90) by the Commit tee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights, on the common position of the Council on a regulation amending regulation (EEC) No 1031/88 determining the persons liable for payment of a customs debt (Doc.
Schodruch (DR). — (DE) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, De vil sikkert ikke tage mig det ilde op, når jeg ikke bygger på det samme grundlag, som den ærede taler før mig valgte.
DE VRIES (LDR), in writing. — (NL) I feel obliged to vote in favour of the Defraigne report which advises rejecting the request to waive Mr Le Pen's parliamentary immunity.
Her drejer det sig ikke om at afgive principielle erklæringer, men kun om det spørgsmål, hvorvidt den erklæring, hr. Le Pen har fremsat, skal medføre ophævelse af hans immunitet.
If a Member State allows a political party to stand for election, thereby declaring that it is not an outlawed organization, then the leaders of such a party are entitled to exercise their right to freedom of expression and the parliamentary members of such a party are entitled to protection of their parliamentary immunity.
Det gælder friheden, hr. formand, som det så udmærket er blevet sagt...
I also wish to dissociate myself completely from the rapporteur's statement on page 10 of his report that 'It might also be asked how the opinion expressed could, in any absolute sense, be
Vi skal for anden gang beskæftige os med hr. Le Pen.
INGLEWOOD The Lord (ED), rapporteur. — Thank you, Mr President, for that vigorous help in enabling me to exercise my privilege of delivering this report to Parliament.
Første gang efterkom Parlamentet, efter min mening beklageligvis, en anmodning om ophæ-
It is a second reading of a small but significant addition to the existing Community legislation in the area of customs and customs duties.
Som det videre forløb af sagen og navnlig de franske myndigheders passivitet beviser, drejede det sig for dem åbenbart kun om at få indledt en sag mod hr. Le Pen, da der i den sammenhæng erfaringsmæssigt altid bliver noget hængende — også selv om der i virkeligheden slet ikke er nogen grund til bebrejdelser.
Under Regulation 1031 of 1988, two new chargeable occasions were introduced into Community customs law and this piece of legislation is intended to identify who is to pay on those two particular occasions. The background to the matter is that free zones and free warehouses, although they are within the jurisdiction of the Community in a general sense, are treated as being outside it for certain customs purposes.
springende punkt er den kamp mod racisme og antisemitisme, som Parlamentet som fællesskabsinstitution har ført siden den højtidelige erklæring i 1986.
am glad that we have returned to the internal market after the debates so far today. The internal market is a beautiful big jigsaw puzzle where every piece is important.
Det ville være absolut selvmodsigende, hvis vi på den ene side fører en sådan kamp og på den anden side tillader, at det vi bekæmper udvikler sig.
One of these important pieces is to be found in Lord Inglewood's report which we as a group will support.
Dette perspektiv er også væsentligt ved afstemningen i dag.
We have studied this report carefully in the Legal Affairs Committee.
Jeg skal endelig tilføje, at det er overraskende at høre hr. Le Pen påstå, at han aldrig er blevet dømt for antisemitisme og se ham forsøge at undgå en retslig afklaring.
There are many people, including myself, who have had first-hand experience of what is in the directive.
Jeg vil sammen med de franske radikale medlemmer stemme for ophævelse af hr. Le Pens parlamentariske immunitet og imod hr. Defraignes betænkning.
As a native and practising lawyer of Rotterdam, I — like people involved in all other ports and airports and free warehouses — have naturally given much thought to what a fair distribution is.
Vi er af den opfattelse, at hr. Le Pen udtalte sig som parlamentsmedlem og derfor ikke kan drages til ansvar.
What this really boils down to — if you look at this with a legal eye — is a fair distribution of the burden of proof.
Parlamentets arbejdsmåde må ikke ind skrænkes. Vi er derfor i overensstemmelse med udvalgets forslag imod en ophævelse af immuniteten. ten.
This may seem a trivial matter, but to those who in practice are responsible for international ttade in the EEC, and they number no more than a few thousand, it is nonetheless important when the system works with a presumptio juris that they have the right to produce counter evidence.
Ford (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg giver afkald på min taletid, da hr. Nordmann har sagt det hele.
I am of course delighted that we have not only an experienced Commissioner but also an experienced advocate and laywer in Mr Bangemann present this evening.
Galle (S), skriftlig. — (NL) Jeg har hverken stemt for eller imod, fordi jeg på den ene side vil følge min gruppe i forkastelsen af sådanne udtalelser, men på den anden side som formand for Udvalget for Forretningsordenen mener, at ordføreren hr. Defraigne denne gang er tæt på sandheden, når han siger, at de omstridte udtalelser snarere er udtryk for en politisk opfattelse.
All I would ask is that consideration should be given to our amendments which are a bit fairer to the private operator than the original proposal. I would ask Mr Bangemann to consider them carefully again; we look forward to his verdict.
Langer (V). — (DE) Hr. formand, både Europa-Parlamentet og min egen gruppe har efter min opfattelse i denne valgperiode for flertallets vedkommende opført sig inkonsekvent i sager om immunitet.
Regulation 1031 of 1988 stipulates that customs duties become due on two occasions: first, when goods are used or consumed unlawfully by some person who is identifiable within a free zone or free warehouse and secondly, when under such circumstances the goods quite simply disappear.
Et stort flertal forsvarede hr. Mattinas immunitet; han var anklaget for at have fornærmet en minister. Skal den parlamentariske immunitet kunne begrundes demokratisk, skal der på den mest rigoristiske måde være lige ret for alle.
The regulation we are consider­ing proposes that where it is known who is responsible for the unlawful use or consumption of the goods, that person, together with anyone else liable to pay under Member States' legislation, will be responsible for the customs debt.
En parlamentarisk forudgående undersøgelse, som bliver til politisk fordømmelse eller til politisk frikendelse, idet den hindrer retsforfølgelse, fratager dette privilegium for parlamentsmedlemmer dets oprindelige mening og begrundelsen for det som beskyttelse af funktionen og udsætter i stedet for alle medlemmer af Europa-Parlamentet for et politisk flertals vilkårlighed.
Under the circumstances, when it is not in fact known who did consume or use these goods unlawfully and when they have vanished, it is the person who was last identified as being in possession of them who will be liable, again together with anyone else who may be liable under the domestic law of the Member State in question.
De Vries (LDR), skriftlig. — (NL) Jeg føler mig på ny nødsaget til at stemme for Defraigne-betænkningen, som afviser ophævelse af hr. Le Pens parlamentariske immunitet.
ΒANDRES MOLET (V). — (ES) Mr President, on behalf of my parliamentary group I unreservedly support the position of the Committee on Legal Affairs put before this Plenary in Lord Inglewood's report.
Ud fra disse præmisser vil jeg ikke deltage i afstemningen i dag, og jeg må sige, at enkelte andre medlemmer af min gruppe også vil handle således eller stemme for Defraignebetænkningen.
These amendments which we are now considering are exactly the same amendments as were proposed at first reading since the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights is of the view that they are an improvement on the text.
Jeg anser hr. Le Pens udtalelser for skandaløse.
Needless to say, on this occasion, as on the previous one, there is no difference of substance between ourselves and the Commission.
Det drejer sig om udtalelser, som passer i en lang europæisk tradition med fremmedhad, racisme og intolerance over for jøder og frimurere.
Yet again, Mr President, Parliament finds itself in the thankless position of seeing its amendments to a regulation, to what would be a law in national legislation but in this case a law serving the whole Community, rejected after first reading by the Commis­sion and the Council.
Jeg ønsker derfor kraftigt at tage afstand fra ordførerens udtalelse på side 10 i hans betænkning om, at »man kan rejse det spørgsmål, hvorledes den fremsatte udtalelse i sig selv kan krænke ovennævnte persongruppers ære eller anseelse...«.
Yet again what has already been described as 'the democratic deficit' of our institutions has been thrown into relief.
Der kan efter Auschwitz ikke være tale om tvivl med hensyn til tendensen i hr. Le Pens ord.
Because it is very difficult for the average citizen to understand how the de­mocratic majority decision of this Parliament, a Parliament directly elected by secret ballot and universal suffrage, can be rejected by the Commission and the Council which, finally, are not directly representative in the way that Parliament and its Members are.
Nordmann (LDR). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg mener afgjort, at vi under denne type debat bør ophøre med at lege med ordene.
However, 1 gather from colleagues who were in this Parliament before I was elected to it that it has been imminent for quite some time.
At sige, at den internationale jødiske sammenslutning spiller en ikke ubetydelig, dvs. væsentlig, rolle for dannelsen af en antinational ånd, det er ikke det samme som at indlede en akademisk diskussion om nationalismens og internationalismens respektive fortjenester, det er derimod at puste liv i en klassisk kliché for ikke at sige selve grundmønstret i antisemitismen, navnlig i dennes udformning før Anden Verdenskrig.
Quite a number of fragments of customs legislation are coming before this House and I am sure it would help those people who actually used these pieces of legislation, — not, of course, to mention the rapporteur who has to deal with the various amend­ments and fragments as they pass through this Chamber, — if they could all be got together in one single place.
Selv om jeg respekterer den holdning, der principielt er imod ophævelse af parlamentarisk immunitet, mener jeg ikke, at man kan sætte lighedstegn mellem den slags udsagn og forsvaret af ytringsfriheden. Det er ikke det springende punkt i debatten i dag. Det
So it is right on this occasion too, at this second reading, for Parliament to maintain its authority and its position, Mr President, Mr Vice-President of the Commission, the two amendments already approved by Parliament are, I believe, inspired by common-sense and justice and I hope they will be approved again in this partsession.
Mattina og som var forviklet i Camorra-sager, gav anledning til mistanke, og at jeg derfor opfordrede retsmyndighederne til at indlede undersøgelser.
We must vote in favour of them, but the Council and the Commission must adopt them too and the text of the regulation will then be appreciably improved. Mr President, that is why my parliamentary group is unanimous in voting in favour of both amendments.
skabets toldlovgivning indført to nye tilfælde, hvor der opstår toldskyld, og denne nye lov skal klargøre, hvem der skal betale i de pågældende to tilfælde.
disappeared or whether it is established that goods have been consumed in a free warehouse or other free zone.
Baggrunden for sagen er, at selv om frizoner og frilagre ligger inden for Fællesskabets område i almindelighed, så anses de med hensyn til toldafgifter for at ligge uden for det.
In our view, Article 6 (a), paragraph 2 of the Common Position stipulates that if another person is identifiable, he is responsible for the customs debt.
Jeg ved ikke rigtig, hvordan jeg skal få hr. Langer til at forstå, hvor stor forskel der er mellem det, jeg sagde i denne forespørgsel i Europa-Parlamentet, og det, som Le Pen har sagt, og som allerede er blevet klart belyst af mange medlemmer.
Mr Janssen van Raay will remember that if the same thing is said twice in two different places in the selfsame law, then that can be interpreted as meaning that something different may be intended in the second case.
Jeg beder om undskyldning, men jeg mener, at sandheden bør slås fast for at undgå, at hr. Langer når han ikke har andet at gøre, fortsætter med at skrive i aviser og at tale her i Parlamentet uden at vide nøjagtigt, hvad han taler om.
PERREAU DE PINNINCK DOMENECH (RDE). — (ES) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I would not want to begin my speech without congratulating Lord Inglewood on the brilliant work he has done in drawing up his report. From our point of view there are two crucial issues in the teport.
Det fastslås i forordning nr. 1031/88, at der skal betales told ved to lejligheder: For det første, når varer anvendes eller forbruges på andre vilkår end dem, der er fastsat i de pågældende bestemmelser af en person, hvis identitet man kan fastslå, i en frizone eller på et frilager, og for det andet når varer under sådanne omstændigheder simpelt hen forsvinder.
That is why for purely legalistic reasons we would like to stick to our proposals. We appreciate the great care and effort which went into drafting the amendments, and we are grateful for that, but we do not really believe that they constitute an improvement.
I den forordning, vi har til overvejelse, foreslås det, at når man ved, hvem der er ansvarlig for den pågældende anvendelse af varerne på andre vilkår end dem, der er fastsat i de pågældende bestemmelser, så skal den pågældende sammen med andre, der er pligtige til at betale i henhold til medlemsstaternes lovgivning, være ansvarlig for den pågældende told skyld.
First, trade between Member States, where the basic point is to establish a parallel between the merchandise and the person liable for payment of customs debt at any given moment.
Hvis man ikke ved, hvem der har forbrugt eller anvendt de pågældende varer på andre vilkår end dem, der er fastsat i de pågældende bestemmelser, og hvis de er forsvundet, så er det den, der sidst blev identificeret som værende i besiddelse af dem, der skal betale, igen sammen med alle andre, der måtte være forpligtede hertil i henhold til den pågældende medlemsstats nationale lovgivning.
At every link in this chain it is fundamental to identify the economic agent controlling and defining each phase of the operation, so as to establish the appropriate responsibility and ensure supervision by the competent authority.
Langer (V). — (IT) Hr. formand, som en personlig bemærkning ville jeg blot i al venskabelighed sige til min kollega, hr. Mattina, at vi sandsynligvis virkelig ikke har forstået hinanden.
Of course we could discuss at great length whether the Commission's right to feel it knows better is tantamount to a democratic deficit. We too can make mistakes, even though it happens very seldom.
Med hensyn til indholdet i hans forsikringer giver jeg ham ret, og det har jeg sagt her i Parlamentet.
I would not totally exclude the eventuality of the Commission making mistakes once in a blue moon.
Jeg siger imidlertid, at Europa-Parlamentet ikke bør gå ind en vurdering af, om det er mere eller mindre velbegrundet, at der rejses sigtelse for en lovovertrædelse.
But under the Single Act we still have the right to say whether we accept an amendment from Parliament or not. We are perfectly entitled to our own decision.
Dette tilkommer det ikke os at gøre, og med denne begrundelse er jeg på Mattinas side med hensyn til, hvad han har sagt.
Secondly, as regards trade with third countries, the rapporteur's position, set out in the tespective amend ments relating to goods from a third country deposited in a duty-free zone, as well as in cases where they are subsequently re-exported, seems perfectly consistent to us.
Jeg mener imidlertid, at hans immunitet bør være den samme som for enhver anden af os. Det var det hele.
The control of the said merchandise by an economic agent and its supervision by the competent customs authority will permit the identification at any time of the person liable for payment of customs debt.
(Forslaget til afgørelse forkastedes)
But that is not the situation today.
Ved førstebehandling stillede Parlamentet visse ændringsforslag, som de mente forbedrede ordlyden i denne forordning og gjorde indholdet klarere.
We think it is vitally important for the completion of the internal market to finalize and implement all the proposed directives as quickly as possible.
De ændringsforslag, som vi nu har til overvejelse, er nøjagtig de samme som dem, der blev stillet ved førstebehandlingen, eftersom Udvalget om Retlige Anliggender og Borgernes Ret tigheder er af den opfattelse, at de repræsenterer en forbedring af teksten.
So we must adapt ourselves to the speed of events and use our best effotts to support every measure which, like the directive before us now, will help achieve Community objectives in the shortest possible time.
Jeg behøver næppe at sige, at vi ved denne som ved den forrige lejlighed i alt væsentligt er enige med Kommissionen.
I do not want the rapporteur to misunderstand me. We wish to thank him for his work.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er indstilling ved anden behandling (dok.
We do not believe that there is any basic difference between us on the substance.
Lord Inglewood (ED), ordfører. — (EN) Tak for Deres energiske indsats for at gøre det muligt for mig at udøve mine privilegier og forelægge denne betænkning for Parlamentet, hr. formand.
BANGEMANN, Vice-President of the Commission. — (DE) Mr President, with your permission I should like to make a few comments on Lord Inglewood's report.
Det er andenbehandling af en lille, men væsentlig tilføjelse til den eksisterende fællesskabslovgivning angående told og toldafgifter.
As Mr Janssen van Raay said, there is no disagreement between us on the substance. We are ad idem on this issue.
Med fare for at sige det indlysende, så er der to ting, der må bringes på det rene, når man skal opkræve told.
All we really have to do is find sufficiently clear tetminology to be able to distinguish two slightly different instances of the one case.