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Parlamentet mener, at disse råd ikke udelukkende bør beskæftige sig med spørgsmål af teknisk karakter, men også skal have mulighed for at behandle politiske aspekter og spørgsmål vedrørende menneskerettighederne. derne.
While it is true that 2,864 prisoners are said to have been released in the past month or so, it is also apparently true that there may be as many as 10,000 further prisoners still held in Syria, many of them suffering the most terrible torture.
De la Malene (RDE). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, jeg vil kun tale om Algeriet.
SABY (S). — (FR) Mr President, I wish to put a supplementary to the Commissioner.
Vort ansvar er stort i den aktuelle situation, idet vi ved, at der fra forskellig side vil blive gjort alt, for at fredskonferencen skal blive en fiasko. Jeg kan selv tale med om de mange former for pression og dokumentation for og imod en bestemt protokol, som ordførerne modtager.
We quite under stand that the measures in support of democratic values are positive measures, and I would point out that, during its debate, Parliament envisaged equally binding measures.
Når det er sagt, er det selv følgelig algerierne selv, der skal råde over deres skæbne, og vi skal ikke tale i deres sted. Vi står imidlertid over for en protokol.
If in the period ahead, despite the opening of a dialogue, Parliament were to call for cooperation and protocols to be suspended on account of failure to comply with certain conditions, would the Commission follow ?
Hvilken holdning kan vi indtage i den nuværende situation?
We are hoping for a precise answer.
Vi vil gerne have mere tid at tage stilling til sagen. Vi synes, at vi i den nuværende situation mangler oplysninger for at kunne vurdere det, der sker i Algeriet.
MATUTES, Member of the Commission. — (ES) Mr President, the declaration referred to by Mr McMillan-Scott goes way beyond the scope of the financial protocols and concerns our cooperation policy.
Følgelig vil vi, som vi vil kræve det i eftermiddag, i høj grad foretrække, at protokollen med Algeriet udsættes til senere, så vi kan få lidt flere oplysninger.
Let me explain : if the Community — the Council, Parliament and the Commission — were to decide at this time to require from the whole of the Third World the same standards that we ourselves apply in this area, it is clear that our development aid to the Third World, our cooperation in general, would be reduced by more than 90%.
Formanden. — Jeg har som afslutning på forhandlingen modtaget fire beslutningsforslag med anmodning om afstemning snarest muligt ')·
And it is certainly necessary to ask whether we would then be helping towards greater respect for human rights and democratic values in the rest of the world or whether, by simply insisting on our will, we would be preventing the conditions and the dialogue developing which would bring about progress here.
Europa må aldrig glemme, at det har en sydflanke, en yderst kompliceret sydgrænse, og at den eneste måde, hvorpå denne kan blive en fredens grænse, er gennem iværksættelse af en virkelig udviklingssamarbejdspolitik, der gør det muligt for disse lande at udvikle deres potentiale i et fredeligt og harmonisk klima, uden dette europæiske hykleri, der består i, at vi anlægger en meget streng målestok i forhold til alt, hvad der ikke forekommer os passende på menneskerettighedsområdet, og samtidig er yderst karrige med at give den fornødne støtte til at hindre, at den af os så dybt beklagede situation opstår.
So we have decided, for example, that 'third generation' cooperation agreements, that is, those which include scientific and technical cooperation in the field of manpower training, in other words the most advanced cooperation agreements, will only be signed with countries which accept the inclusion of the democratic clause — respect for democratic principles and human rights — in the agreement itself. And none of these will be signed with countries which do not accept it, but I repeat that this does not mean cutting off cooperation totally from all the other countries.
Afstemning om anmodningen om afstemning snarest muligt finder sted ved forhandlingens afslutning.
The importance we accord to this new dimension that we are now introducing into cooperation should be understood in that sense.
Konkluderende vil S-gruppen stemme for protokol lerne under forudsætning af, at Kommissionen giver et adækvat svar på ovennævnte spørgsmål.
And I think it is also in that sense that my speech about the financial protocols we are dealing with today should be understood.
Pons Grau (S). — (ES) Hr. formand, af debatten her i salen fremgår det tydeligt, at den ikke blot drejer sig om nogle tekniske protokoller.
JACKSON, Christopher (ED). — Mr President, I wish for clarification of the question I asked in my speech.
I den forbindelse må der tages hensyn til forskellige faktorer.
I would be most grateful if he could give that assurance.
For det første det ansvar, der påhviler Parlamentet: det må gøre sin pligt og undlade at udskyde denne debat til en senere mødeperiode; Parlamentet må
MELANDRI (V). — (IT) Mr President, we are taking a step that is extremely delicate, and I should like to ask the Commissioner to be more precise.
Matutes, medlem af Kommissionen. — (ES) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, alle kan formodentlig erklære sig enige i hr. Pons Graus udtalelser.
In fact, we are also disposed to vote for these financial protocols, but we want assurances that go beyond mere words.
Kommissionen deler fuldt ud Parlamentets holdning til spørgsmålet om demokrati og menneskerettigheder.
We have presented a resolution in which we ask that the coming into effect of these protocols be conditional on respect for United Nations resolutions, on respect for democracy.
Og det skal klart understreges, at vedtagelsen af finansprotokollerne ikke er ensbetydende med hverken Fællesskabets, Parlamentets eller Kommissionens accept af den eksisterende situation, for så vidt angår menneskerettighedssituationen i de omhandlede lande.
We shall not be satisfied, at least as far as I am concerned, with vague assurances on the intention to give answers to Parliament, and I therefore really do ask you, Mr Commissioner, to tell us what you are
Kommissionen mener tværtimod, at indgåelsen af finansprotokollerne vil give Fællesskabet bedre muligheder for gennem dialog med disse lande at få dem til at overholde disse principper — et synspunkt, der også er blevet fremført af min forgænger, hr. Cheysson, og af stort set alle de foregående talere, også af ordføreren, hr. Pons Grau.
MATUTES, Member of the Commission. — (ES) Mr President, I agree with the point you have just made about the debate but, precisely to illustrate it better, I must say that we are not here for the Commission to make decisions now at the request of a member of this Parliament on what is to be done in the Brunner case in relation to the financial protocols.
En afvisning af at undertegne finansprotokollerne er derimod hverken juridisk eller politisk et godt våben til at forbedre situationen.
We shall now decide on the request for an early vote on the four motions for resolutions to wind up the debate on the agreements between the EEC and the Maghreb and Mashreq countries.
Det er langt bedre at udøve pression på grundlag af et krævende venskabs moralske autoritet end på grundlag af en position som streng og ensidig anklalger.
The vote on the text of these motions for resolutions will be taken this afternoon at 5 p.m.
Desuden er det politisk set uhensigtsmæssigt at åbne en Nord-Syd-front på indeværende tidspunkt, hvor der med afholdelsen af Mellemøstfredskonferencen for første gang i de sidste 50 år er anledning til reelt håb om fred i dette område.
BELO (S). — (PT) Mr President, I would like to call the attention of the services of this Assembly to the fact that we no longer have a European Economic Community; we have a European Community and we should therefore replace the initials EEC with EC.
Rådets og Kommissionens — og forhåbentlig også Parlamentets — ønske om i stadig højere grad at gøre udviklingssamarbejdet betinget af nogle for os så essentielle spørgsmål som demokrati og overholdelse af menneskerettighederne, et tilgodeset i den udstrækning, det er muligt.
These are in fact the only guarantees that can be given to Parliament, and I also want to make clear to you, in all honesty, what our limitations are; why the Commission — this Commissioner — is operating inside a dichotomy, inside a contradiction which allows it a very narrow margin of manoeuvre.
Hermed mener jeg, at hvis Fællesskabet, Rådet, Parlamentet og Kommissionen på nuværende tidspunkt besluttede at afkræve hele den tredje verden samme standard, som vi selv håndhæver på dette område, ville EF's udviklingsbistand til den verden og udviklingssamarbejdet generelt blive indskrænket med 90%.
It consists in the responsibility, the moral obligation which I undertake before this Parliament when I commit myself to take account of the resolution presented today, knowing at the same time that limitations exist arising from the competence of the Commission which, in this case, applies to certain instruments which have been approved not only by the Commission, but also by this Parliament and by the Council.
Ville en sådan situation mon bidrage til større respekt for menneskerettighederne og demokratiske værdier i resten af verden, eller ville en sådan rent voluntaristisk hold ning ikke snarere hindre, at der skabes betingelser for fremskridt på dette felt?
It is obligatory, it is binding upon me under the treaty which I presume we are all concerned to respect, to act taking into account the competences of this triangle. I think this answers the question put by Mr Moorhouse and Mr Saby.
Det er således f.eks. blevet besluttet, at den tredje generation af samarbejdsaftaler, dvs. de, der omfatter videnskabeligt og teknologisk samarbejde på uddannelsesområdet, altså de mest avancerede samarbejdsaftaler, kun bliver undertegnet med de lande, der accepterer, at klausulerne om demokrati og overholdelse af menneskerettighederne indføjes i selve aftalen.
Every time Parliament denounces a situation and seeks to suspend the protocols — assuming that the Commission has not previously taken note of the situation and acted on its own initiative — the Commission commits itself to take account of this decision, to present it to the other institution and to seek to have the will of this Parliament considered.
Sådanne aftaler vil ikke blive indgået med lande, der ikke accepterer denne klausul, uden at Fællesskabet som sagt af den grund afbryder ethvert samarbejde med disse lande.
This is what happened, as Mr Saby is very well aware, in the case of the Sudan which he just gave as an example.
Det er i dette perspektiv, man skal se den betydning, vi tillægger den nye dimension, som for eftertiden indføres i samarbejdsaftalerne.
PRESIDENT. — Mrs Belo, I have the impression that you are one step ahead of the facts on this specific point.
Af ovennævnte grunde forpligter Kommissionen sig til, hvis Parlamentet på sin side forpligter sig til at vedtage finansprotokol lerne i løbet af indeværende uge, at imødekomme Parlamentets beslutning i den ustrækning, dens beføjelser inden for rammerne af den institutionelle trekant, dvs. Kommissionen-Parlamentet-Rådet, til lader det.
Finally, I will also reply, as I could not do less, to the question put by Mr Jackson to the effect that the Commission commits itself to inform an appropriate forum of this Parliament, about the progress made in the application of these financial protocols, not only from the technical point of view, as Mr Jackson so rightly specified, but from the political point of view precisely referred to in this resolution.
Med hensyn til ordførerens sidste spørgsmål vil Kommissionen støtte enhver bestræbelse fra Rådets og Parlamentets side på et gøre denne dimension af debatten nærværende på møderne i samarbejdsrådene. dene.
— Doc. A3-273/91 by Mr Pons Grau, on behalf of the Committee on Development and Cooperation, on the conclusion of the protocol on financial and technical cooperation between the European Economic Community and Syrian Arab Republic (4182/ 91 —C3-80/91);
Melandri (V). — (IT) Hr. formand, det, vi er i færd med at gennemføre, er meget vanskeligt, og jeg meget gerne bede kommissæren om at være mere præcis.
CRAMON-DAIBER (V). — (DE) Mr President, could you please ask Mr Matures how he intends to achieve what Parliament is requesting in its compromise motion.
Vi er tilbøjelige til at stemme for disse finansprotokoller, som er blevet forelagt, men vi vil have garantier, der går ud over ord.
I would also like to know what the Commission has done so far. Has it approached Syria with the resolution that Parliament adopted on the Brunner case in September?
Vi fremsætter et beslutningsforslag, hvor vi anmoder om, at gennem førelsen af disse protokoller betinges af overholdelse af FN's resolutioner og respekt for demokratiet.
How does the Commission intend to continue dealing with Syria in the Brunner case, and when does it expect him to be extradited ?
Vi er ikke tilfredse, i det mindste er jeg det ikke, med vage forsikringer om, at man har til hensigt at svare Parlamentet, og derfor vil jeg bede Dem om, hr. kommisær, at sige os, hvad De er villig til at gøre vedrørende vor anmodning, og vi så tage en beslut ning på det grundlag.
— Doc. A3-350/91) by Mrs Van Hemeldonck, on behalf of the Committee on Development and Cooperation, on the conclusion of the protocol on financial and technical cooperation between the European Economic Community and the Democratic and Popular Republic of Algeria (SEC(91) 814 — C3-269/91);
Hvorfor er der ikke taget højde for denne erklæring i den foreliggende række protokoller?
I cannot accept any more questions. I am sorry but we must have a minimum of discipline.
Matutes, medlem af Kommissionen. — (ES) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, som jeg sagde i mit første indlæg, tror jeg, at vi alle er fundamentalt enige, og jeg skal derfor koncentrere mig om at præcisere mine svar på de stillede spørgsmål.
­ Doc. A3­354/91 by Mrs Bindi, on behalf of the Committee on Development and Cooperation, on the conclusion of the protocol on financial and technical cooperation between the European Econ­omic Community and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan (COM(91) 203 — C3­275/91);
Under hvilke omstændigheder vil han »lukke for det varme vand«? Lad os for eksempel tage Syrien.
We have already debated the issue of democracy and human rights, and one thing must be made absolutely clear.
Vil han mene, at Syrien har givet eksempler nok, idet landet på menneskerettighedsfronten er det værste af de lande, vi overvejer her?
To the question we are all entitled to ask ourselves — is Syria a democratic country ?— the reply has to be a definite no.
Det er ganske vist korrekt, at det siges, at der er blevet løsladt 2 864 fanger i løbet af den seneste måned eller deromkring, men det er tilsyneladende også korrekt, at der måske er så mange som 10 000 fanger tilbage, som stadig holdes i fangenskab i Syrien, og mange af dem undergår den mest forfærdelige tortur.
But other questions need to be asked if we are to avoid falling into the error of Manicheism, because this Parliament cannot have peoples as enemies.
Er der her tale om omstændigheder, hvor han kunne tænkes at lukke for bistanden eller undlade at sætte den i værk?
This Parliament must always try to look for truth and rapprochement.
Ville han »lukke for det varme vand« under sådanne omstændigheder?
And it is also a fact that the human rights conditions we are all used to and which we fight for are not fulfilled in any part of the region.
Hvor står han, når det gælder Syrien?
I repeat, nowhere in the region.
Hvilken garanti er der for, at det ikke blot er tomme løfter, kommissionsmedlemmet fremsætter over for Parlamentet?
We cannot equivocate according to our sympathies or antipathies, and say: these do more and those do less.
Jeg påtager mig således et ansvar og en moralsk forpligtelse over for Parlamentet, når jeg giver tilsagn om at imødekomme den foreliggende beslutning, velvidende at Kommissionens kompetence på dette område er underlagt visse begrænsninger, idet den skal anvende nogle instrumenter, der er vedtaget ikke blot af Kommissionen, men også af Parlamentetet og Rådet.
So we have to try to help to get them respected, and we think — and we honestly believe that those who hold the opposite opinion hold it honestly — that it is not by slamming the door, it is not by a negative vote that we shall make progress on the road towards democracy and human rights.
Jeg mener hermed at have besvaret de af hr. Moorhouse og hr. Såby stillede spørgsmål.
And in this we are totally in agreement with what the Com­missioner has just said.
Endelig skal jeg som svar på hr. Jacksons spørgsmål sige, at Kommissionen forpligter sig til i et passende forum under Parlamentet, et forum, som Parlamentet selv måtte finde hensigtsmæssigt, at informere om udviklingen i gennemførelsen af finansprotokol lerne, ikke blot fra et teknisk synspunkt, men også fra det politiske synspunkt, som det foreliggende beslutningsforslag omhandler.
• Doc. A3­274/91 by Mr Arbeloa Muru, on behalf of the Committee on Development and Cooperation, on the proposal from the Commission to the Council (COM(91) 48 — C3­175/91) for a regulation concerning financial cooperation in respect of all the Mediterranean non­member countries.
Det, jeg gerne vil have oplyst, er, om Kommissionen vil følge Parlamentet, hvis Parlamentet i morgen til trods for indledningen af en dialog anmoder om udsættelse af samarbejdet og protokollerne som føkge af manglende overholdelse af visse krav?
PONS GRAU (S), rapporteur. — (ES) Mr President, I actually think the important debate was the one that has just ended. Now we are getting into the more technical side of things.
Vi vil gerne have et præcist svar.
But however technical it cannot be divorced from our political views.
Cramon-Daiber (V). — (DE) Hr. formand, vil De være så venlig at spørge hr. Matutes om, hvordan han vil gennemføre det, som Parlamentet ønsker i sit kompromisforslag?
VAN HEMELDONCK (S), rapporteur. — (NL) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, in the course of the debate on the Tunisia protocols that we had last month, I emphasized how absurd it really is to have, every five years, a debate on and an investigation into the framework of our cooperation with a number of countries and, thereafter, to forget them for a con­siderable period of time.
Jeg vil også gerne spørge, hvad Kommissionen hidtil har gjort? Har De over for Syrien omtalt Parlamentets i september vedtage beslutning i Brunner-sagen?
Just now, in his speech, Mr Jackson emphasized that institutionalization will be necessary, as also an annual re­evaluation, not only as regards the implementation criteria but, where neces­sary, also the rectification and evaluation of the effects of those protocols.
Hvordan agter Kom missionen at gå videre med Brunner-sagen over for Syrien, og hvornår regner De med udlevering?
I would point out to the Com­missioner that Parliament not only has, of course, the right to request the Commission to suspend protocols and their implementation but that we also have the budgetary authority each year, if necessary, to turn off a tap.
Formanden. — Mine damer og herrer, vi er ikke i gang med spørgetiden.
And I must emphasize once again that we are at an especially important moment for that region, a moment when, for the first time, there is a chance of reaching a peace agreement.
Forhandlingen er afsluttet. Rent undtagelsesvis har jeg accepteret et par
And we must, as European politicians, support in every possible way the progress on this road which leads towards peace.
Christopher Jackson (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne have afklæret det spørgsmål, jeg rejste i mit indlæg.
Mr President, the example of Algeria illustrates all too well how unwise it is to hold a debate every five years and then no longer to keep an eye on the problem.
Vil kommissæren gå med til, at Kommissionen hvert år i god tid inden budgetproceduren aflægger beretning til et passende forum under Par lamentet på klar og detaljeret vis vedrørende de fremskridt, der gøres for hver af protokollerne, ikke blot om de tekniske spørgsmål, men også i forbindelse med emner, som vedrører erklæringen af den 28. november om menneskerettigheder og demokrati? Det er efter min opfattelse en yderst væsentlig betingelse. Jeg ville være meget taknemmelig, hvis han ville give dette tilsagn.
Events in Algeria are now moving so fast that I must needs make an oral addendum to my written report that was approved in the Committee on Development and Cooperation.
Men med fru Cramon-Daibers indlæg har jeg accepteret det absolut sidste spørgsmål. Jeg tillader ikke, at der stilles flere.
VAN HEMELDONCK the structural problems to be tackled will it be possible for democracy and human rights to be saved in Algeria.
Matutes, medlem af Kommissionen. — (ES) Hr. formand, jeg tilslutter mig Deres synspunkt, meg jeg må dog gøre det klart, at der ikke er tale om, at Kommissionen her og nu efter anmodning fra et medlem skal træffe beslutning om, hvad der skal gøres ved Brunner-sagen i forbindelse med indgåelse af finansprotokollerne.
We are dealing here with a country where population growth fluctuates between 3.1% and 2.7%, but where economic growth has been only 1% this past year. We are dealing with a country that has to devote 70% of its national income to paying off its debts.
Formanden. — Forhandlinger er afsluttet.
We are looking at unemployment that totals 1.2 million, that is to say 23%.
Vi går nu over til afstemning om anmodningen om afstemning snarest muligt om fire forslag til besltuning som afslutning på forhandlingen om aftalerne EØF-Mzgreb og EØF-Machrek.
We are dealing with a country that has to import its basic foodstuffs, which has to import cereals and sugar on a massive scale... from the EC.
Afstemning om disse forslag til beslutning finder sted i eftermiddag, kl. 17.00.
The European Parliament would have been in a better position to put these points if it had been consulted formally and in good time, as the Italian Presidency of the Council did when it was in office, in regard to the Commission's Matutes plan.
Belo (S). — (PT) Hr. formand, jeg gør Parlamentets tjenestegrene opmærksom på, at det ikke længere hedder Det Europæiske Økonomiske Fællesskab, men derimod Det Europæiske Fællesskab, og følge lig bør siglen EØF erstattes med EF.
So it is clear that, in the face of a dramatic situation, we find ourselves with totally inadequate resources. We shall therefore have to examine not only the manner in which we are going to implement the protocols but also the additional measures in our general development policy or else quite specifically.
Formanden. — Fru Belo, De er vist lidt forud for udviklingen i dette tilfælde.
As regards demography, there is nothing actually being done as yet, and this is something that needs our urgent attention.
Pons Grau (S), ordforer. — (ES) Hr. formand, jeg tror faktisk, at den vigtige forhandling er den, der lige er blevet ført.
We need in particular to direct our financing towards the development of small and medium-sized undertakings, for it is above all by that means that we shall be able to create jobs for the many unemployed.
Nu kommer vi til den mere tekniske del af debatten.
Finally, we must help the country to exploit with profit its raw materials.
Men selv om den er teknisk, er den ikke renset for politiske holdninger.
The gas pipeline between Spain and Algeria is certainly a first step, but we must also give the country our support in the drawing up of oil agreements, lest pirates cause a further pauperization.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er forhandling under ét om følgende betænkninger:
We must also give our supportive guidance to the new Association Africaine du Fer et de l'Acier, which has been established between Algeria, Tunisia and 11 ACP countries.
Jeg vil gerne endnu en gang understrege, at vi befinder os på et tidspunkt, som er af særlig betyd-
I think that the very re-emergence of religious and cultural tension and conflict between