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For det andet anfører hr. Prag med rette, at Europa-Parlamentets nye rolle i medfør af Fællesakten og Maastricht-Traktaten vil føre til en betydelig forøgelse af Parlamentets arbejdsbyrde i de kommende år. Men man må forstå, at hvis arbejdsbyrden vokser, er det fordi, man ganske undslår sig for at anvende subsidiaritetsprincippet i fuld udstrækning, især når det gælder det, der med urette benævnes / 'acquis communautaire.
We are also convinced that the measures recommended in the report — namely the adoption of all the legislation on the basis of full co-decision between Parliament and the Council, the sitting in public of the Council when it is meeting in its legislative role, a more effective relationship with the national parliaments and the representation of Member States in the Council by permanent delegations — would limit the bureaucratic involvement in decisionmaking and would help enormously to fill the existing gap between Community policies and the peoples' wishes.
For det tredje bemærker jeg i hr. Prags betænkning — trods PPE's ændringsforslag, som vi vedtog for lidt siden — en uheldig tendens til at ville flytte Europa-Parlamentet til Bruxelles, idet hr. Prag indirekte sætter spørgsmål stegn ved dets hjemsted i Strasbourg. Vi fordømmer denne tendens.
To conclude, Mr de Giovanni's report pays lip service to national constitutional rules and sovereignties, but it is virtually helping to undermine them to the benefit of various forces which will only be welcome if they operate in a Community, that is to say supranational, context.
Det er uacceptabelt at henvise til en unionsforfatning, som forudsætter, at der skabes en overnational stat; det er uklart, hvad der i punkt 4, litra a, og punkt 7 menes med de territoriale enheders, de sociale institutioners og de nationale parlamenters deltagelse i Rådets arbejde. Jeg gad nok vide, hvordan det skulle foregå i praksis.
Furthermore, in several Member States the democratic deficit could be further reduced by the presence of a permanent delegation of the regional authorities which have exclusive competences.
Jeg citerer fra dette punkt, som det endnu ikke er lykkedes mig helt at forstå.
The resolution considers this presence to be a possibility.
Det er ineffektivt, hvad der i punkt 4, litra g, står om, at Rådets møder skal være offentlige, når det optræder som lovgiver.
In full agreement with the explanatory statement of the report, we would have liked this point to be emphasized and that was the purpose of one of our amendments.
Endelig er det diskriminerende, hvad der står i punkt 4, litra h, eftersom de stater, der er i mindretal, ville være berøvet en væsentlig garanti, hvis man holdt valg til Rådets formandskab i stedet for at lade det gå på omgang. En sådan bestemmelse ville føre til valgmanøvrer, koalitionsdannelse og rivalisering og dermed skærpe med lemsstaternes indbyrdes modsætninger.
Finally, although the relationship with the national parliaments is obviously very important, some kind of relation ship with regional parliaments, limited of course to the matters in which they are competent, would take into account the complexities of the constitutional structures of some Member States, would reduce the information deficit and would bring the Community institutions closer to the citizens.
Sluttelig er det arrogant at henvise til Maastricht-Traktaten, som — er det stadig nødvendigt at minde om det her? — hverken er trådt i kraft eller ratificeret af alle medlemsstater.
We regret that our proposals in this direction have been rejected.
PRAG (PPE), ordfører. — (EN) Fru formand, jeg vil naturligvis stemme for denne betænkning, om ikke andet fordi det er min egen.
BLOT (DR). — (FR) Madam President, ladies and gentlemen, we see major drawbacks in Mr Prag's report.
Imidlertid finder jeg det ganske bemærkelsesværdigt, at punkt 7 udgik. Punkt 7 omhandler hele spørgsmålet om en fordobling af de områder, som, når Maastricht-Traktaten er ratificeret, skal omfattes af to behandlinger.
Firstly, the report thinks that the Council is a systematically non-democratic body, which is absurd and produces this recital A which is worthy of the great French humorist Pierre Dae, who says it is ?unacceptable that a union of democratic nations should not itself be democratic'.
Antallet af de områder, der er omfattet af to behandlinger, vil blive fordoblet gennem Maastricht-Traktaten.
We do not believe the Council is an antidemocratic institution, that is a total paradox.
Halvdelen af dem vil blive omfattet af den nye procedure med fælles beslutningstagning og den anden halvdel af samarbejdsproceduren.
In conclusion, we think that the report is a very good approach to ensuring a better equilibrium between the Community institutions and I congratulate Mr De Giovanni on his excellent work.
Det forekommer mig helt klart, at for at udføre Parlamentets opgave med demokratisk kontrol på en seriøs og effektiv måde er det helt afgørende, at vi anvender mere tid på plenarmøder. Og det var det, der stod i dette punkt.
Secondly, Mr Prag rightly says that the new responsibilities lad down in the Maastricht Treaty and as a result of the Single Act will greatly increase the workload of Parliament in years to come.
(Forslaget til beslutning vedtoges)
GOLLNISCH (LDR). — (FR) Madam President, Mr de Giovanni's report makes a few points which are quite correct.
Sammenfattende hylder hr. de Giovannis betænkning på overfladen forfatningerne og den nationale selvbestemmelsesret, men bidrager i praksis til at nedbryde den dermed forbundne folkerepræsentation til fordel for for skellige interesser, som kun vil være velkomne, hvis de har et fællesskabs-, dvs. overnationalt, sigte.
Thirdly, I note that despite the EPP amendment we adopted just now Mr Prag's report contains a little bias towards Brussels since Mr Prag indirectly questioned the existence of Parliament's seat in Strasbourg.
(Forslaget til beslutning vedtoges)
We deplore that bias.
HARRISON (S). — (EN) Fru formand, Harrison-betænkningen eren kort betænkning, og jeg ved, at Parlamentet og Kommissionen gerne ser, at der stemmes om denne betænkning i aften.
Finally, we think this report shows the absurdity of concentrating powers at European level.
Der er kun fire ændringsforslag.
A confederation, however, would demonstrate its virtues. ?Never too much', reads the inscription in the temple at Delphi.
BLOT (DR). — (FR) Fru formand, kære kolleger, hr. Prags betænkning rummer efter vor opfattelse væsentlige problemer.
But in our view this text contains provisions which are unacceptable, muddled, incomprehensible, inefficacious or discriminatory.
Den går for det første ud fra, at Rådet er et systematisk udemokratisk organ, hvilket er absurd og fører til punkt A, som er den store franske humorist Pierre
Something unacceptable is the refer ence to a constitution of the Union, which implies the creation of a superstate.
FORMANDEN. — Kære hr. Harrison, jeg ville gerne gøre Dem den glæde, men, forstår De, jeg tror ikke, det ville være muligt og rimeligt, for der ville i så fald ikke være nogen grund for os til at standse.
Something muddled is the introduction by Articles 4a and 7 of the participation of territorial units, social institutions and national parliaments in the work of the Council.
Men jeg tror virkelig ikke, at det ville være rimeligt at fortsætte.
I have quoted this article, which I still do not altogether understand.
Grupperne har ladet mig vide, at de ønsker tilstrækkelig tid til at samles.
Something inefficacious is Article 4g, concerning the public conduct of Council meetings on legislative matters.
Vi er derfor nødt til at slutte umiddelbart efter denne sidste afstemning.
PRAG (PPE), rapporteur. — Madam President, I shall of course vote for this report, if only because it is my own!
Kan De for det andet meddele mig, hvem der repræsen terer Rådets formandskab i aften?
PRESIDENT. — Mr Alavanos, that was not a point of order. I expected as much!
FORMANDEN. — Den første af Deres bemærkninger, hr. Wijsenbeek, tager jeg til mig, og personlig er jeg enig i den.
(The sitting was suspended at 7.15 p.m. and resumed at 8.45 p.m.) to two readings.
Jeg skal tage det op med formandens kabinet, og De skal fa et svar.
The number of policy areas subject to two readings will be doubled by the Maastricht Treaty.
For det andet er Rådet i aften repræsenteret af hr. Ørstrøm Møller, der er statssekretær i den danske regering.
Half of them will be subject to the new co-decision procedure and the other half to the cooperation pro cedure.
VEIL (LDR). — (FR) Fru formand, jeg vil geme meddele de medlemmer, der ikke har hørt det, en nyhed, der netop er indløbet.
It seems to me absolutely clear that to carry out the task of this Parliament of democratic control seriously and effectively we must urgently spend more time in plenary session. And that was what that paragraph said.
Det serbiske parlament i Bosnien har god kendt Genève-fredsplanen, hvorefter Bosnien skal opdeles i ti provinser.
It seems to me very sad that something so necessary, and which it is so necessary for us to say, should have been omitted from the report for reasons of pure chauvinism.
Afstemningen fik følgende resultat: 55 stemte for, 15 imod, og én undlod at stemme.
IN THE CHAIR: SIR JACK STEWART-CLARK Vice-President
HABSBURG (PPE). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne rejse nøjagtig det samme spørgsmål som hr. Wijsenbeek.
PRESIDENT. — The next item is Question Time (Doc. B3-0001/93).
FORMANDEN. — Tak, fru Veil, for denne oplysning, som vi jo får se betydningen af.
HARRISON (S). — Madam President, the Harrison report is a short report and I know that Parliament and the Commission would wish to see this report voted tonight. There are only four amendments to it.
Vi ville naturligvis gerne have stemt om Jugoslavien og de øvrige emner, men jeg vil ikke ændre min afgørelse.
Today we will be taking questions to the Council, European Political Cooperation and the Commission.
Det er altid det samme, alle disse pladser er tomme.
It is rather odd because, after all, this is an open House.
Jeg har forhørt mig og fundet ud af, at der er givet visse ordrer ovenfra om ikke at give adgang for folk til aftenmøderne.
We are trying to be as open as possible. Secondly, could you inform us who is representing the President-in-Office of the Council tonight?
Det er naturligvis skandaløst, hvad vi ser ske under aftenmøderne, men jeg mener, vi alle har ret til at se denne skandale.
I called the Prag report at the very last minute, that is to say just a few moments before 7 p.m. as I knew it was very short. But really I do not think it would be reasonable for us to continue.
Så vær så venlig at rejse spørgsmålet og lad folk se, hvad vi laver!
We shall therefore have to stop immediately after this last vote.
FORMANDEN. — Jeg skal gøre mit bedste for at stille Dem begge tilfreds.
PRESIDENT. — The first of your points, Mr Wijsenbeek, I take and personally sympathize with.
Jeg garanterer ikke noget, men skal gøre mit bedste.
I will take it up with the President's office and you will get a reply.
Jeg vil derefter gerne formelt byde hr. Ørstrøm Møller velkommen.
HABSBURG (PPE). — Mr President, I should like to raise exactly the same issue as Mr Wijsenbeek.
PATTERSON (PPE). — (EN) Fru formand, jeg sætter ikke spørgsmålstegn ved Deres afgørelse, men jeg vil gerne anmode om, at man i fremtiden, når vi fastlægger afstemningstidspunktet, prioriterer de lovgivningstekster, som vi skal udtale os om.
VEIL (LDR). — (FR) Madam President, may I inform honourable members who may not have heard it yet of a piece of late news.
Det kan vi ikke gøre her til aften, men når vi kommer til afstemningstiden i morgen, kan vi så ikke prioritere Harrison-teksten, for vi skal afgive vor udtalelse inden denne mødeperiodes afslutning.
The parliament of the Bosnian Serbs has agreed to the Geneva peace plan whereby Bosnia would be divided into ten provinces.
Rådet og Kommissionen venter på den.
The vote was as follows: 55 for, 15 against and one abstention.
Så hvis vi ikke kan gøre det nu, så lad os gøre det allerførst i afstemningstiden i morgen.
I know that we are very much divided on the usefulness of these negotiations, but I wanted just to tell you the news since we are not voting on this report now and I proposed to refer to it in my explanation of vote.
FORMANDEN. — De kunne udmærket have anmodet om en ændring af dagsordenen for at få betænkningerne behandlet i en anden rækkefølge; jeg ville så have overladt det til Parlamentet at træffe afgørelse om anmodningen.
I have made enquiries and discovered that there are certain orders from above not to permit people to be here at night sittings. Of course it is scandalous, what we see happen ing at night sittings, but I think that we all have a right to see this scandal.
Hvilke spørgsmål i forbindelse med racisme drøfte des på det sidste topmøde i Edinburgh, og hvilken politik foreslog Rådet gennemført?
PRESIDENT. — Thank you, Mrs Veil, for that information, which we realise is important. We should certainly have liked to vote on Yugoslavia and on the other subjects, but I shall not alter my decision.
(Mødet udsat kl. 19.15 og genoptaget kl. 20.45)
Questions to the Council
ØRSTRØM MØLLER, formand for Reidet. — Det Europæiske Råd understregede på sit møde i Edinburgh, at der ikke må være plads til racisme og fremmedhad i vor tids Europa. Det Europæiske Råd gentog, at det er fast besluttet på at modgå sådan adfærd med øget styrke.
PATTERSON (PPE). — Madam President, I am not challenging your ruling, but I would ask that in future when we organize our voting time priority be given to legislative texts on which we have to give an opinion.
Det understregede navnlig vigtigheden af at beskytte alle indvandrere mod racistiske overgreb og af at gennemføre politikkerne til integration af lovlige indvandrere i fuldt omfang.
We cannot do this this evening, but when we come to our voting time tomorrow can we please give priority to the Harrison text because we have to give our opinion before the end of this session.
FORSÆDE: Sir Jack STEWART-CLARK Næstformand
Question No 1, by Ms Oddy (H-1316/92) Subject: Edinburgh Summit
FORMANDEN. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er spørgetiden (dok. B3-0001/93).
What were the issues of race discussed at the recent Edinburgh Summit, and what policies were proposed by the Council?
I dag behandler vi spørgsmålene til Rådet, Det Europæiske Politiske Samarbejde og Kommissionen.
PRESIDENT. — You could very well have requested an amendment of the agenda so as to alter the order of reports and I would have submitted that request to the Assembly.
WIJSENBEEK (LDR). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne først stille Dem et spørgsmål i overensstemmelse med artikel 60 om spørgetiden og bilagene dertil. Hvor dan kan det være, at ingen tilhørere har adgang til spørgetiden?
ALAVANOS (CG). — (GR) Madam President, regarding a matter raised by Mme Veil, and I ask the group representatives to listen to this, the joint amendment on Yugoslavia responded to a situation which no longer exists today.
Vi prøver at være så åbne som muligt.
For that reason, I think the groups should
ODDY (S). — (EN) Jeg byder den danske formand velkommen. I Deres svar sagde De, at love mod racisme og diskriminering skulle håndhæves, og at lande, der ikke har en sådan lovgivning, bør indføre den.
ØRSTRØM MØLLER, President-in-Office of the Council. — (DA) At its meeting in Edinburgh the European Council stressed that there must be no place for racism or xenophobia in the Europe of today.
Ville det ikke være bedre, hvis Det Europæiske Fællesskab selv foreslog lovgivning for hele Det Europæiske Fællesskab?
The European Council reaffirmed that it was firmly resolved to combat such behaviour with increased vigour.
ØRSTRØM MØLLER
implement it.
FORMANDEN. — Da spørgeren ikke er til stede, vil spørgsmål nr. 2 blive besvaret skriftligt. (')
PRESIDENT. — As the author is not present, Question No 2 will be answered in writing. (')
Spørgsmål nr. 3 af Lane (H-1321/92):
Question No 3 by Mr Lane (H-1321/92)
Om: Landbrugsaftalen mellem EF og USA og reformen af den fælles landbrugspolitik
Subject: EC/US Farm Agreement and the CAP reform
Er Rådet enigt i de tal, der er anført i Kommissionens dokument SEK(92) 2267 endelig udg., hvoraf det fremgår, at den nyligt indgåede landbrugsaftale med USA er fuldt forenelig med aftalen om reformen af den fælles landbrugspolitik?
Does the Council accept the figures set out in a Commission document (SEC(92) 2267 final) which indicate that the recently agreed agricultural arrange ment with the United States is fully compatible with the agreement on the reform of the CAP?
ØRSTRØM MØLLER. — Jeg tror, at både spørgeren. Rådet og samtlige tilstedeværende her i salen er enige om, hvad formålet er.
ØRSTRØM MØLLER. — (DA) I think that the Honour able Member, the Council and all those present in the Chamber are agreed on the aim to be pursued.
Men vi ved også, at der er en kompetencefordeling mellem medlemslandene og EF og dets institutioner.
But we also know that powers are shared between the Member States and the Community and its institutions.
Vi kender jo alle reglerne, vi kender traktatgrundlaget, og efter min opfattelse må vi, som tingene ligger, arbejde bedst muligt inden for den givne ramme.
We all know the rules, we know the Treaty basis and I think that, as things stand, we must work to the best of our ability within the framework laid down.
Derfor tror jeg, at f.eks. et spørgsmål som dette er et meget nyttigt instrument til at henlede offentlighedens opmærksomhed på det problem, som racisme og frem medhad indebærer, således at man kan få uddannelse og lovgivning i gang på det pågældende område og opmuntre medlemslandene til at gøre det, som de bør gøre på det pågældende område. Det er faktisk det, som Det Europæiske Råd har gjort.
I therefore think that a question such as this is a very worthwhile means of drawing public attention to the problem of racism and xenophobia, so that education and legislation in this area can be stimulated and the Member States can be encouraged to do what is required.
Det er faktisk det, som Rådet gør.
It is what the Council is doing.
Og jeg tror, det er det, vi alle bestræber os på.
And I think it is what we are all concerned to do.
WIJSENBEEK (LDR). — (NL) Det må siges, at repræsentanten for rådsformanden i hvert fald godt kan læse.
WIJSENBEEK (LDR). — (NL) It must be said at any rate that the President-in-Office's representative is a good reader.
Jeg vil alligevel stille ham et spørgsmål, som går noget videre end de forberedte svar.
That said, I should like to ask him a question that goes beyond his prepared answers.
Er rådsformanden enig med mig i, at vi i Det Europæiske Fællesskab, hvad vi end gør ved overvågningen af de ydre grænser, i mellemtiden er blevet et åbent Fællesskab, hvortil udlændinge i vid udstrækning bør have adgang, hvori vi som medlemsstater i fællesskab skal bære ansvaret herfor, og hvori, i hvert fald når det drejer sig om familiesammenføring — og nu taler jeg ikke specifikt om tamiler, men om familiesammenføring i al almindelighed — hver enkelt medlemsstat bør påtage sig sin andel, og at vi bør udforme en fælles politik med hensyn hertil?
Would the President-in-Office agree with me that we in the European Community, whatever we may do about controls on the external borders, have now become an open Community to which foreigners must be freely admitted, for which we as Member States must jointly share responsibility and where, certainly as far as keeping the family together is concerned — and I am not thinking specifically of Tamils but of families in general — each of the Member States takes its share of the burden and for which we need to work out a common policy?
ØRSTRØM MØLLER. — Jeg mener, at det spørgsmål, som bliver rejst, i høj grad er under behandling i Fælles skabet og mellem de tolv medlemslande.
ØRSTRØM MØLLER. — (DA) I think the matter raised is one which is being dealt with extensively in the Community and by the twelve Member States acting together.
Vi ved begge, at der er to konventioner, som er underskrevet, Konventionen om Asyl og Konventionen om Kontrol ved de Ydre Grænser, som vil bidrage til at løse det problem, som spørgeren påpeger.
We both know that two conventions have been signed, the Asylum Convention and the Convention on the Crossing of External Frontiers, which will contribute to solving the problems referred to by the Honourable Member.
ØRSTRØM MØLLER, formand for Rådet. — Rådet foretog i november og december 1992 i overensstemmelse med konklusionerne fra Det Europæiske Råd en tilbundsgående gennemgang af Kommissionens meddelelse om landbrugsafsnittet i GATT-forhandlingerne samt reformen af den fælles landbrugspolitik.
ØRSTRØM MØLLER, President-in-Office of the Council. — (DA) In November and December 1992. in accordance with the conclusions of the European Council, the Council undertook a thorough examination of the Commission communication on the agriculture section of the GATT negotiations and the reform of the common agricultural policy.
Nævnte dokument analyserer, hvorvidt resultaterne af landbrugsforhandlingerne med USA er forenelige med reformen af den fælles landbrugspolitik, som Rådet vedtog den 22. maj 1992.
These documents analyse whether the results of the agriculture negotiations with the USA are compatible with the reform of the common agricultural policy, which the Council adopted on 22 May 1992.
På samlingen den 7. december 1992 fastslog Udenrigsministerrådet, for så vidt angår landbrugsaspekterne, at de fremsatte bemærkninger og de rejste spørgsmål vedrørende landbrugsafsnittet krævede en mere ind gående analyse af, i hvor høj grad forhandlingsresultaterne var forenelige med reformen af den fælles landbrugspolitik.
At its meeting on 7 December 1992, the Council of Foreign Ministers decided that, as far as the agricultural aspects were concerned, the comments presented and the questions raised regarding the agriculture section called for a more detailed analysis as to what extent the negotiating outcome was compatible with the reform of the common agricultural policy.
Drøftelserne burde derfor videreføres aktivt i de rette fora, bl.a. Landbrugsminislerrådet, og der burde tages behørigt hensyn til disse drøftelser under de igang værende forhandlinger i Genève.
Discussions should therefore be actively pursued in the correct fora, notably the Council of Agriculture Ministers, and due note should be taken of these discussions in the continuing negotiations in Gene va.
På samlingen den 14.-17. december 1992 gjorde landbrugsministrene atter status over forhandlingerne vedrørende landbrugsafsnittet under Uruguay-Runden.
At the meeting on 14-17 December 1992 the Agriculture Ministers again assessed progress in the negotiations for the agriculture section of the Uruguay Round.
Ved den lejlighed bekræftede Kommissionen med oplysninger til støtte herfor, at de forhandlinger, den havde ført, faldt inden for rammerne af reformen af den fælles landbrugspolitik og var forene lige med denne.
On that occasion the Commission confirmed, with supporting documentation, that the negotiations it had conducted were within the parameters of the reform of the common agricultural policy and were compatible with it.
Til trods for Kommissionens forsikringer betvivlede nogle delegationer fortsat denne forenelighed, og der blev anmodet om yderligere analyser.
Despite the Commission's assurances some delegations continued to doubt whether that compatibility was in fact present, and further analyses were requested.
ELLIOTT (S). — (EN) Jeg lyttede med interesse til Deres svar.
ELLIOTT (S). — I listened with interest to your reply.
Jeg ved ikke, om Rådet er klar over, at Overhuset inden for det sidste par dage har afgivet en erklæring, der siger, at man mener, at alle medlemsstater i Fællesskabet bør indføre en effektiv lovgivning om racemæssige relationer og håndhæve den ordentligt.
I wonder if the Council is aware that in the last few days the House of Lords has issued a statement saying that it believes all Member States in the Community should introduce effective race relations legislation and properly