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Der er altid, som det blev sagt før, tale om sager, der sætter spørgsmålstegn ved en kollegas ære, og sådanne sager bør vi, selvfølgelig under hensyntagen til lovovertrædelsens art, behandle objektivt.
Each case calls into question, as we were reminded just now, the honour of a colleague and we owe it to ourselves to deal with it objectively, naturally taking account of the nature of the offence.
I de fleste lande er forsvinden som i Ruiz-Mateos-sagen ikke en lovovertrædelse.
In the case of Mr Ruiz-Mateos, escaping is not a crime in most countries.
Men det er det i Spanien.
It is an offence in Spain.
Det er ikke det, der har været bestemmende for vor afgørelse, men det er taget med i vurderingen.
That is not what decided us, but it is a factor to be considered.
Jeg mener, at vi bør tage hensyn til den forelagte sag i sin helhed og til den offentlige opinions reaktioner, men da sagen drejer sig om retfærdighed og billighed, kan vi ikke a priori indtage principielle holdninger og have fordomme.
I think that we must take account of the whole file as it has been submitted to us and the reaction of public opinion, but we cannot, because it is a matter of justice and equity, take up positions of principle a priori and prejudge the issue.
Enhver sag er noget for sig selv, og ordføreren, der fra tid til anden skal forelægge sådanne sager for Europa-Parlamentet, kan kun blive ærgerlig over holdninger af denne art.
These are individual cases every time and I think the rapporteur who has to present them from time to time to your Assembly will only be harassed if positions of this kind are adopted.
Som afslutning, fru formand, vil jeg sige, at denne sag ikke kun lugter af forfølgelse, det er en ram og tyk røg, der er ved at kvæle os.
So to conclude, Madam President, I would say that we do not just have a 'fumus persecutionis ' here, we have a thick and acrid smoke which catches in our throats.
Lad os hurtigst muligt få opløst disse skadelige uddunstninger.
Let us get rid of the stench as soon as possible!
HABSBURG (PPE). — (FR) Fru formand, jeg vil blot sige, at vi allerede har modtaget mangfoldige anmodninger om hr. Ruiz-Mateos.
HABSBURG (PPE). — (FR) Madam President, I simply want to say that we have already received many requests on the subject of Mr Ruiz-Mateos.
Det tager megen tid og påfører vore ordførere og udvalg meget arbejde, og hver eneste gang ender det med afvisning på grund af manglende juridisk grundlag.
This takes up a lot of our time and imposes a great deal of work on our rapporteurs and our committees and every time it results in a rejection for lack of legal foundation.
Følgelig vil det måske være formålstjenligt, fru formand, at vi omsider anmoder de spanske myndigheder om at ophøre med at forfølge hr. Ruiz-Mateos, så vi kan få arbejdsro.
Consequently, it might perhaps be useful, Madam President, if we finally asked the Spanish authorities to stop persecuting Mr Ruiz-Mateos and let us get on with our work.
Det er altså med fornøjelse, at jeg støtter hr. Defraignes forslag.
That is why I am glad to support Mr Defraigne's proposal.
MALANGRE (PPE). — (DE) Fru formand, på gruppens vegne til jeg gerne bemærke følgende til sagen.
MALANGRE (PPE). — (DE) Madam President, on behalf of my Group I should like to make the following comments.
Så vidt jeg husker, har jeg endnu ikke haft lejlighed til at gøre hr. Ruiz-Mateos' personlige bekendtskab. Jeg kender ham kun fra de dokumenter, der i tidens løb har samlet sig.
As far as I can remember, I have never had occasion to meet Mr Ruiz-Mateos personally.
Det kan i dette tilfælde kun tjene objektiviteten og udelukker i hvert fald, at det opfattes som en personlig sympati tilken degivelse, når jeg erklærer, at vor gruppe vil følge ordførerens forslag.
This may be an aid to objectivity — at any rate it is not to be taken as a mark of personal sympathy when I say that my Group would like to endorse the rapporteur's proposal.
I denne forbindelse bygger vi ikke på den omstændighed, at det i hvert fald i nogle medlem slande er straffrit at stikke af; der er heller ikke det ringeste tegn på voldsanvendelse.
Our position is not based on the fact that this form of self-discharge is not punishable in at least a number of Member States; there are no accompanying circumstances such as the use of violence.
Men efter hvad vi hørte i udvalget, skulle medlemmet ud over toilettet også have benyttet en paryk og et par solbriller til i tre uger at unddrage sig justitsvæsenet.
As we heard in committee, leaving aside the toilet, Mr Ruiz-Mateos needed only a wig and a pair of sunglasses to evade the arm of the law for three weeks.
PERREAU DE PINNINCK DOMENECH (RDE), skrift lig. — (ES) Endnu en gang bringer de spanske myndigheder i deres iver efter at forfølge hr. Ruiz-Mateos os i den situation at skulle afvise deres anmodning om ophævelse af vor kollegas immunitet.
PERREAU DE PINNINCK (RDE), in writing. — (ES) In their zealous persecution of Mr Ruiz-Mateos the Spanish authorities have again put us in the position of having to reject their request to waive our colleague's immunity.
I lighed med ordføreren undrer det os imidlertid, at der efterhånden er gået næsten fem år, da undersøgelsesinstanserne efter omstændighederne at dømme ikke kan have haft den ringeste vanskelighed med at opklare sagens sammenhæng, så meget desto mere som den — der jo samtidig udgør det strafbare forhold — efter sagens natur burde være klarlagt i løbet af få minutter.
However, what causes us some surprise, as it does the rapporteur, is the fact that almost five years have now passed even though, by the look of things, the investigating authorities could have had not the slightest difficulty in clearing up the case given that the basis of the case, namely the disappearance, which is also the offence being investigated, must have become obvious after just a few minutes.
Når der er tale om en så påfaldende ophobning af undersøgelser, som det er tilfældet for hr. Ruiz-Mateos' vedkommende, er der egentlig kun to muligheder: Enten står den pågældende principielt i et, om jeg så må sige, udpræget spændt forhold til sit lands retsvæsen, eller også skyldes straffe myndighedens iver andre omstændigheder, der knytter sig til den pågældenes person.
In the face of the impressive number of investigations against Mr Ruiz-Mateos, one is left with just two possible conclusions: either he stands, in relation to the law, in — as I would put it — a particularly tense situation or, on the other hand, the enforcement authorities are justified, in their zeal, by coonsiderations attach ing to his person.
Den første mulighed kan jeg ikke vurdere, da jeg savner holdepunkter.
Without anything to go on, I cannot accept the first possibility.
For det første fordi de påklagede forhold er helt ukomplicerede, for det andet fordi medlemmets immunitet blev ophævet for to år siden, uden at de spanske myndigheder har indledt retsforfølgningen — hvorfor anmoder de så om ophævelse af medlemmets immunitet? — og sidst, men ikke mindst, fordi Den Europæiske Menneskerettighedsdomstol onsdag den 23. juni træffer afgørelse i den sag, som hr. Ruiz-Mateos har anlagt mod den spanske stat for at have nægtet ham muligheden for
In the first place, the facts are of minor importance; secondly, his immunity was waived over two years ago and the Spanish authorities have failed to carry the legal process through to a conclusion — so why are they asking for immunity to be waived now? And last but not least, the European Court of Human Rights is going to rule next Wednesday on an application by Mr Ruiz-Mateos against Spain for denying him the opportunity of fair treatment in the Spanish courts, which led to his total inability to defend himself against the plunder of all his companies by the Spanish government.
Lad os håbe, at Menneskerettighedsdomstolens afgørelse kaster lys over denne sag og dermed bliver begyndelsen til enden på et af de mest barbariske overgreb, der i de seneste år er begået i en påstået retsstat.
We trust the forthcoming decision of the European Court of Human Rights will throw light on this matter and be the beginning of the end of one of the worst atrocities and abuses committed in recent years by a supposedly lawabiding state.
De spanske myndigheder kan kun rette henvendelse til Europa-Parlamentet gennem retsvæsenet, da hr. Ruiz-Mateos efter at være blevet valgt til Europa-Parlamentet i 1989 hører ind under Højesterets jurisdiktion.
The slow ness of the Supreme Court in that regard is not attributable to the governmental authorities, which cannot echo a petition to the Supreme Court.
Højesterets langsomme sagsbehandling kan således ikke lægges regeringsmyndighederne til last.
So the situation is explained by the authentic division of powers which reigns in our country.
DUARTE CENDÁN (PSE). — (ES) Fru formand, jeg havde egentlig ikke tænkt mig at tage ordet, men efter den voldsomme provokation fra den modsatte side af salen finder jeg det nødvendigt at tage til genmæle.
DUARTE CENDÁN (PSE). — (ES) Madam President, I did not intend to speak, but someone on the benches opposite has given us extreme provocation.
Hvis nogen i mit land har forsvaret friheden, er det socialisterne, så beskyldningerne om anslag mod friheden må De tage i Dem igen, hr. Perreau de Pinninck.
If anyone in my country has defended freedom, it has been the socialists. So the honourable member had better eat his words of accusation about attacks on liberty.
Som en anden taler har været inde på, er der givet tilladelse til udlevering, ikke blot af de spanske myndigheder, men også af de tyske retsmyndigheder i forbindelse med to punkter i anklagen mod hr. Ruiz-Mateos, og derfor anmoder jeg i form af en personlig bemærkning til hr. Habsburg denne om at anerkende, at ligesom tyskerne anser deres retsvæsen for uafhængigt, kan vi med samme ret anse det spanske retsvæsen for uafhængigt, og at situationen ikke er den samme som under et tidligere regime, som hr. Habsburg har førstehåndskendskab til, hvor dommerne blev håndplukket, og hvor retsvæsenet ikke var uafhængigt, for så vidt som der var tale om et diktatur.
Furthermore, as has already been said, extradition orders have been made not just by the Spanish authorities but by the German judiciary as well, in respect of two aspects of the charges Mr Ruiz-Mateos faces and because of the personal allusion, I ask Mr Habsburg to recognize that, if the German authorities regard their justice as independent, we have the same right to regard Spanish justice as independent, in contrast to the situation under the pre vious regime, with which Mr Habsburg was well acquainted, when the judges were handpicked, and there was no real independence because there was a dictator ship.
Fru formand, jeg skal ikke gå i detaljer, men hr. Ruiz-Mateos er ikke alene blevet forfulgt af det spanske, men også af det britiske og det tyske retsvæsen.
Madam President, I do not intend to go into details, but Mr Ruiz-Mateos has been pursued not only by Spanish justice, but also by British justice and by German justice.
Vi har således tilstrækkelige indicier på, at der en dag vil falde dom i Ruiz-Mateos-sagen, en domfældelse i henhold til loven, men også på, at han vil blive dømt af mange andre europæere, der uden tvivl vil drage ham til ansvar.
So we have plenty of reason to believe that the Ruiz-Mateos case will one day come to trial, and be tried in accordance with the law, but that will also be with the agreement of many other Europeans who will undoubtedly charge him.
COIMBRA MARTINS (PSE). — (PT) Fru formand, en kommentar til en bemærkning fra et medlem, der sidder på min højre side, om, at det spanske retsvæsen har lagt beslag på meget af Parlamentets tid med sine anmodninger om ophævelse af hr. Ruiz-Mateos' parlamentariske immunitet.
COIMBRA MARTINS (PSE). — (PT) Madam President, I must set right the impression given by an illustrious member on my right, who maintained that Spanish justice had already taken up too much of this assembly's time with its petitions for waiving the Parliamentary immunity of Mr Ruiz-Mateos.
Til gengæld må det siges, at hr. Ruiz-Mateos ikke har lagt beslag på vores tid, da han aldrig har indtaget sin plads her i salen og derfor aldrig har sagt et ord.
This has been compensated for by the fact that Mr Ruiz-Mateos does not take up any of our time here, because he has never sat here, never spoken here.
Jeg for mit vedkommende har i hvert fald aldrig set ham. Medmindre han da, som andre talere har været inde på, skjuler sig bag skæg og blå briller.
At least, I for one have never seen him. What sort of a member is he?
COLINO SALAMANCA (PSE). — (ES) Fru formand, jeg vil gerne stille og roligt minde medlemmet af Den Nationale Front om, at der ikke findes sådan noget som et socialistisk politi i Spanien, men derimod et demokratisk politi i statens tjeneste, Det Nationale Politikorps, som ikke på nogen måde er politisk farvet.
COLINO SALAMANCA (PSE). — (ES) Madam President, I would like, simply and calmly, to remind the colleague from the National Front that Spain does not have a socialist police force, it has a democratic police force in the service of the state, which is called the Cuerpo Nacional de Policía and has no connection with any political colour.
Det er uden tvivl medlemmets minder om tidligere tider, der får ham til at tolke den aktuelle situation i Spanien på denne måde.
It must be his memories of past times that lead him to take this view of present-day Spain.
TOPMANN (PSE). — (DE) Fru formand jeg beklager, at de to højreafvigere Gollnisch og Habsburg ødelagde klimaet efter ordføreren og Malangrés yderst saglige indlæg og derved gjorde det vanskeligt for alle her at følge ordførerens forslag.
TOPMANN (PSE). — (DE) Madam President, I find it regrettable, after the very impersonal remarks of the rapporteur and Mr Malangré, that the two errant lawyers, Mr Gollnisch and Mr Habsburg, should have spoiled the atmosphere and made it difficult for all of us in this House to support the rapporteur's proposal.
Det beklager jeg overordentligt. Derved gjorde de ikke Europa-Parlamentet nogen tjeneste.
I regret that enormously.
For det andet gøres der forsøg på at give det udseende af, at de spanske myndigheder er opsat på at forfølge hr. Ruiz-Mateos.
Secondly, the possibility of a spirit of persecution on the part of the authorities with regard to Mr Ruiz-Mateos has been raised.
Uden at gå i dybden skal jeg blot henlede opmærksomheden på, at hr. Ruiz-Mateos stort set ikke i løbet af de sidste fire år har indfundet sig her i Parlamentet, og alligevel påberåber han sig til stadighed sin parlamentariske immunitet for at forsvare sig mod anklager i Spanien.
Without going into details, I would simply like to remind this assembly that in four years Mr Ruiz-Mateos has hardly ever taken his seat in this Parliament but nevertheless makes permanent use of the right of Parliamentary immunity to defend himself against charges in Spain.
PERREAU DE PINNINCK DOMENECH (RDE). — (ES) Fru formand, jeg skal udtrykke mig meget kort og afdæmpet.
PERREAU DE PINNINCK DOMENECH (RDE) — (ES) Madam President, I shall be very brief and speak calmly without passion.
Grunden til, at jeg tager ordet, er, at der er blevet henvist til min person.
I am speaking because I was referred to.
Jeg forstår ikke, hvorfor hr. Ruiz-Mateos ikke indtager sin plads i Europa-Parlamentet.
I cannot understand why Mr Ruiz-Mateos is not sitting here.
En af hans kolleger fortalte, at han ikke kendte ham og ikke var klar over, at det var ham, han engang havde sat sig ved siden af.
One of his colleagues told us that he did not know him, in spite of having the seat next to him.
Hr. Ruiz-Mateos er beskyttet af sin parlamentariske immunitet, eftersom han er blevet valgt til Parlamentet, men han har på intet tidspunkt udøvet sit hverv som medlem af Europa-Parlamentet.
He has the right to Parliamentary immunity because he was elected but he has at no time fulfilled his duties as a member of this Parliament.
Da jeg blev opmærksom på forretningsordenens artikel om, at ethvert medlem, der har særinteresser i det emne, der drøftes, når han tager ordet, skal gøre opmærksom herpå, var jeg meget omhyggelig med at få rede på rækkevidden af denne artikel, og der er selvsagt tale om økonomiske interesser.
When I became aware of the existence of the Rule on possible personal interests of a member and the need to declare these when taking the floor, I took a great deal of care to ascertain its scope and of course it refers to financial interests. I have said this before, because every time this issue comes up my name is monotonously repeated: I have no financial interests in a case like this, which has no financial significance anyway.
Jeg erklærer hermed — da jeg altid i forbindelse med dette emne får stukket den samme
Secondly, allegations have been made — in error, I am sure, not in malice — against Mr Ruiz-Mateos.
PERREAU DE PINNINCK DOMENECH påstand i næsen — at jeg ikke har nogen økonomisk interesse i denne sag, der i øvrigt ikke har noget større økonomisk omfang.
PERREAU DE PINNINCK DOMENECH speak with him, he is in his office at this very moment, number 711 in this building, and he is not here in the hémicycle because his presence might somehow be interpreted as an attempt to influence the votes of members in one direction or another.
COLAJANNI (PSE). — (IT) Hr. formand, vi har fastlagt adfærdsregler, som er blevet respekteret både før og nu, men alligevel har hr. Gollnisch os mistænkt for at have en anden indstilling.
DEFRAIGNE (LDR), rapporteur. — (FR) Madam President, the rapporteur deplores the politicization of this affair.
Jeg vil gerne udtrykke den beundring, vi naturligvis nærer for en filminstruktør af fineste karat som Scola.
The case was examined calmly in committee, with no reference to politics and no reference to country of origin, as it should be.
Der er nu gået tre år. Ingen eller intet hindrer de spanske myndigheder i at indlede retsforfølgningen af hr. Ruiz-Mateos, men de har hidtil ikke ønsket det.
I wish — if I may express a wish in my capacity as the committee's regular rapporteur — I wish we could try to stick to the case and nothing but the case in future.
For det fjerde er der nogle medlemmer, der siger, at de ikke kender ham.
IN THE CHAIR: MR VERDE I ALDEA Vice-President regards the waiver of parliamentary immunity.
Hvis nogen ønsker at lære ham at kende og tale med ham, sidder han lige nu på sit kontor nr. 711 i denne bygning, og grunden til, at han ikke er til stede her i mødesalen, er, at han ikke ønsker, at hans tilstedeværelse skulle blive udlagt som et forsøg på at påvirke medlem mernes stemmeafgivning i den ene eller den anden retning.
And what I have tried to explain, in line with some of the parliament ary groups of our political persuasion in some of the Member States, is that parliamentary immunity is not intended to protect members from the consequences of transgressions which actually damage the independence of Parliament, or the prestige of Parliament and its members.
Han foretrak at holde sig udenfor og sidder nu stille og roligt på sit kontor og afventer Parlamentets afgørelse.
In such cases, we will always come out — although this is not the case with Mr Ferrara — in favour of waiving parliamentary immunity.
DEFRAIGNE (LDR), ordfører. — (FR) Fru formand jeg beklager, at der er gået politik i sagen, der i udvalget blev behandlet stille og roligt uden nogen politiske hensyn og uden hensyn til sagens oprindelsesland, som sig hør og bør.
When matters arise which affect both the honour and the prestige of colleagues, we shall examine the application in the strictest manner, case by case.
Hvis jeg som Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitets regelmæssige ordfører må fremsætte et ønske, så er det, at man herefter vil prøve på at holde sig til sagen og kun til denne.
But once we are convinced that the application refers to this type of transgression we are very clear, strict and firm in proposing the waiver of immunity and voting for it when the time comes.
Ophævelse af immunitet II
Waiver of parliamentary immunity II
FORMANDEN. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen, er betænkning (dok.
PRESIDENT. — The next item is the report (Doc.
A3-170/93) afDefraigne for Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmer nes Immunitet om anmodning om ophævelse af Giuliano Ferraras parlamentariske immunitet.
A3-0170/93) by Mr Defraigne, on behalf of the Commit tee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities, on the request for the parliamentary immunity of Mr Ferrara to be waived.
Stemmefo rkla ringe r
Explanations of vote
GOLLNISCH (DR). — (FR) Hr. formand, på en måde svarede hr. Gil-Robles Gil-Delgado den foregående taler.
GOLLNISCH (DR). — (FR) Mr President, Mr Gil-Robles Gil-Delgado has replied to the previous speaker up to a point.
DEFRAIGNE (LDR), ordfører. — (FR) Hr. formand, her er der måske en betænkning, der giver mulighed for at lave alt det teater, man ønsker.
DEFRAIGNE (LDR), rapporteur. — (FR) Mr President, the content of this report is as dramatic as anyone could wish.
Den af filmelskere velkendte Ettore Scola har anlagt sag mod vor kollega, hr. Ferrara.
Mr Ettore Scola, who is well-known to film-goers, lodged a complaint against our colleague, Mr Ferrara.
Hr. Ferrara, der er Journalist, har beskyldt hr. Scola for at have misbrugt nogle regler, som han for øvrigt ikke selv synes om, for udsendelse af film i fjernsynet.
Mr Ferrara, who is a journalist, had accused Mr Scola of making use of, utilizing to be more exact, a certain number of regulations on the broadcasting of films on television, in spite of the fact that he had criticized these regulations.
Således skal han have udtalt: »De er en fidusmager, hr. Scola, for De udnytter forhold, som De offentligt tager afstand fra!« Denne udtalelse, der i almindelige polemiske vendinger fremsattes i et fjern synsprogram, syntes hr. Scola ikke om, hvorfor han indgav klage.
So he told Mr Scola he was a humbug for profiting privately from what he criticized publicly. Mr Scola did not appreciate that remark, which was made during a television broadcast in terms of normal polemic, and he lodged a complaint.
Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet var enstemmigt
The Committee on the Rules unanimously agreed that our colleague, Mr Ferrara, had not done anything but express an opinion and, in accord ance with its standard jurisprudence in the matter, it considers that there are no grounds for waiving immunity· ty·
Jeg er ganske rigtigt glad for, at hr. Ferrara i sidste ende slap for den fortjente straf for at have angrebet både det kommunistiske venstre, medierne og en fremtrædende filmmand.
It is true that I am glad Mr Ferrara has finally escaped punishment for attacking the communist left, the media and a popular film-maker at one fell swoop.
Er der mon tale om en særlig og pludselig liberalisme fra Europa-Parlamentets side? Nej, siger hr. Gil-Robles Gil-Delgado, for den
I take the liberty of expressing the esteem in which we naturally hold such a great film maker as Mr Scola.
Som mange af os sikkert husker, blev aftalen godkendt med et yderst tilfredsstillende resultat, nemlig 351 stemmer for. Jeg håber, at vi igen på onsdag kan få et lignende tilfredsstillende resultat.
The protocol was a result of the renegotiation of the EEA Agreement which took place in February, after it had become clear that Switzerland was unable to take part in EEA cooperation from the beginning.
På en diplomatisk konference den 17. marts kunne protokollen undertegnes af repræsentanter for medlemsstaterne, Kommissionen og seks af de syv EFTA-lande, nemlig Norge, Sverige, Finland, Østrig, Island og Liechtenstein.
At a diplomatic conference on 17 March the protocol was signed by representatives of Member States, the Commission and six of the seven EFTA countries, namely Norway, Sweden, Finland, Austria, Iceland and Liechtenstein.
Amicus Plato, sed magi amica Veritas: i dette tilfælde forsvarer jeg borgeren Scolas ret til at søge rettens assistance mod hr. Ferrara, og denne ret fratages ham ikke, fordi hr. Ferrara er parlamentsmedlem.
to take legal proceedings against Mr Ferrara as a citizen, and the fact that Mr Ferrara is also a member of parliament cannot impinge upon that right.