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at de på det finansielle plan overhovedet ingen virkninger har, men det er et typisk produkt af Europas mangfoldighed, der dog ubestrideligt er sympatisk.
Firstly, I would mention Protocol 36. It jars on me somewhat when a parliamentary assembly, which we all agree should be set up, has its rules dictated to it, has rules of procedure more or less foisted on it by another institution.
Vi bør give disse små og mellemstore virksomheder en chance ved at finde muligheder for undtagelser, for så vidt angår snus- og skråtobak.
We are not accustomed to that, Com missioner. I feel that the best thing would be for the Commission to withdraw this protocol entirely.
Med hensyn til drikkevarer vil jeg bede kollegerne acceptere, at vi ligeledes åbner mulighed for at anvende en reduceret sats, for så vidt angår små og mellemstore bryggerier.
Of course there will be problems within this House. But we have to accept our political responsibility to face up to those problems : the institutional problems, the way it impacts upon the legislative role of this House.
Tilbage er så de alvorlige ulemper ved den specifikke afgift, og navnlig dens uretfærdighed, da den ram mer dem, der køber de billigste produkter, hårdest — altså de fattigste — og endvidere bidrager til en forvridning af markedsmekanismerne ved kunstigt at ændre på varernes pris.
Another matter that concerns me in particular is Article 110 of the draft agreement. This article describes the procedure which the Commission has called the 'decision-shaping' stage.
Man kan ikke for ramme alvor sige, at målet er at tilskynde folk til at lade være med at ryge, medmindre der findes en etisk årsag, der retfærdiggør, at Fællesskabets myndigheder er mere bekymrede over de fattiges sundhed end de riges, da sidstnævnte så bliver mindre motiverede for at holde op med at ryge.
At this stage the EFTA countries would have an opportunity to present views on proposals for EC legislation which is of relevance to cooperation within the EEA.
På den anden side kan man heller ikke i ramme alvor sige, at det er i tråd med markedsøkonomi at tilnærme priserne ved et afgiftsmæssigt kneb — for eksempel ved en prisstigning på 100% på de billige varer, og 30% på de dyre varer.
Parliament of course sympathizes with the wish of the EFTA countries to be consulted at this stage in the preparation of legislation.
I øvrigt undrer det os, at en sådan interesse kun gør sig gældende for disse produkter og ikke for alle andre produkter i fællesmarkedet, lige fra kemiske stoffer til biler.
But from Parliament's point of view there is a problem, in that this form of decision shaping can in certain circumstances get to look a bit too much like decision making.
Det, markedet kræver, såvel i tobakssektoren som i alle andre sektorer, er, at priserne skal være et udtryk for produktionens reelle omkostninger uden afgiftsmæssige og andre forvridninger, der ændrer på konkurrencevilkårene.
In practice it may well turn out to be difficult to amend proposals for EC legal measures, if the Commission is already bound by a common under standing with the EFTA countries on EEA-relevant legislative proposals before they are sent to the European Parliament for its consideration.
Vi ved og tager til efterretning, at en mængde mindre og mellemstore virksomheder i grænseregionerne på uforståelig vis kommer i vanskeligheder som følge af forskellige afgiftssatser, når dette yder ligere forstærkes på grund af forskellige momssatser.
JEPSEN (ED). — (DA) Mr President, the reason for today's debate is of course that we are now nearing the time — let us hope so at least — for the conclusion of the negotiations between the Community and the EFTA countries on the establishment of the European Economic Area.
F. eks. kører lastbiler fra Trier-området i øjeblikket rækkevis til Luxembourg for at tanke op, fordi det er mere fordelagtigt dér.
The reason for this is not so much the ruling of the EC Court of Justice in December that the setting up of a socalled EEA Court of Justice was in conflict with Articles 164 and 219 of the Treaty of Rome.
Vi må sige til de firmaer, der bliver ramt: I en overgangstid kan dette desværre ikke undgås.
No, the real reason is that the Court was not asked to pronounce on this question at a much earlier stage.
Målsætningen må ikke desto mindre være, at vi også i grænseområderne tilvejebringer acceptable betingelser — om end ikke den absolutte retfærdighed — for borgerne.
That would have made it possible to amend the section in the EEA agreement on the legal mechanism in time to enable the agreement to be signed before the end of 1991.
Porto (LDR). — (PT) Fru formand, da jeg i den korte tid, jeg har til rådighed, ikke kan komme ind på en detaljeret analyse af de foreliggende forslag, vil jeg begrænse mig til — og det er vigtigt — at udtrykke min dybe uenighed med nogle af de basisaspekter, for hvilke jeg ikke kan finde nogen rimelig begrundelse.
I therefore propose on behalf of my group that Parliament be kept continuously informed of the preparatory work on proposals for EC legislation which are of relevance to EEA cooperation. That will make it possible for Parliament to exert its influence and, at the same time, for the interests of the EFTA countries to be taken into account.
I forbindelse med beskatningen af alkoholholdige drikkevarer er det uforståeligt, at man påtænker minimumssatser, men ikke har besluttet noget om maksimumssatser.
I would remind you that several of the EFTA countries have shown increasing interest over the past few years in full EC membership, and some have applied to join.
Daly (ED). — (EN) Fru formand, jeg er valgt i Somerset og Dorset West, hvor cider produceres i store mængder. Jeg vil derfor støtte de ændringsforslag i betænkningen af Bernard-Reymond, som fore slår, at cider ikke skal medtages i direktivet.
We have noted the political signals from the Council at its last meetings here early in February to the effect that the Council wants the negotiations to be concluded as quickly as possible, so that the timetable can be adhered to.
Sagen er, at hvis Kommissionens oprindelige forslag ikke ændres, og cider blev klassificeret som vin, så ville afgiften i Det Forenede Kongerige — jeg understreger: i Det Forenede Kongerige — stige fra den nuværende sats på 20.40 til 120 pr. hektoliter. Afgiften på cider med et alkoholindhold på mindre end 8.5% ville stige til 60% pr. hektoliter.
For that reason of course the European Parliament wants the Commission now, as soon as possible, to find a solution to the outstanding legal and institutional problems.
Noget sådant ville få katastrofale virkninger i min valgkreds.
We have heard otherwise.
Hvordan kan man tale om harmonisering og tilnærmelse af afgifter, hvis et givet land fortsat kan bestemme høje satser efter behag og endda øge forskellen i forhold til de nu fastsatte minimumssatser?
And, if that is not the case, does the Commission consider that these problems are major problems or whether they merely amount to a few technical adjustments which can be dealt with by officials ?
Det forventes, at de lande, der ikke selv producerer alkoholholdige drikkevarer, vil gøre det.
Or are we now running into a new set of problems which will give rise to delay ?
Det er ikke rigtigt at tale om harmonisering og tilnærmelse med en ordning, der ikke nødvendigvis fører til konvergens, men snarere er en ordning, der favoriserer nogle på bekostning af andre.
It has always been the view that the EEA agreement should take effect from 1 January 1993, so that the EFTA countries can participate from the start as more
Med hensyn til tobak forstår vi ikke, at samtidig med, at man siger, at målet er harmonisering og tilnærmelse, fortsætter man med en specifik afgift.
Assuming that the process will be completed during the month of March, when will the European Parliament be asked to present its opinion, and when does the Commission expect the process of ratification to be completed in the Member States and the EFTA countries?
Nr. 3-414/95 det var tilfældet med merværdiafgiften — dog til syvende og sidst har den bedste udgangsposition.
No 3-414/95 down, but the Treaty makes no provision for us to refer this again and the Commission does not plan to do so.
Naturligvis må enhver form for konkurrenceforvridning via forbrugsskatter undgås inden for rammerne af færdiggørelsen af Det Indre Marked og afskaffelsen af grænserne. Derfor skal der gennemføres en harmonisering, der kan medvirke til at sikre, at hverken lyssky forretninger eller afgiftssvig kommer til at høre til dagens orden.
ANDRIESSEN, Vice-President of the Commission. — (NL) Mr President, I think it is helpful today for us to discuss the state of progress on the agreement concern ing the European Economic Area.
Hvad er imidlertid hovedsagen i forbindelse med strukturerne? Vi må nok udstikke fremtidsorienterede retningslinjer.
Just a word or two more on the role of the European Parliament in this whole affair.
Det er fuldstændig rig tigt.
So everything stays the same in this respect.
Men jeg er også opmærksom på medlemsstater nes forpligtelse over for Verdenssundhedsorganisationen WHO, nemlig forpligtelsen til inden år 2000 at reducere alkoholforbruget med 25%.
The powers of the European Parliament remain as they were, that is to say that for every action envisaged by the European Community or Commission in the European Economic Area in respect of the Community's role, the institutions, namely the Commission, will be accountable to the European Parliament, apart from the parliamentary consultative organ to be set up with the powers and resources with which Parliament is familiar.
Hvorfor skulle prisen da ikke i dette tilfælde — også via afgiftsforhøjelsen — være et udmærket middel?
I think there is no call to repeat Commission views on the matter which have been expressed either by me at this plenary or in Parliament's committees — and on quite a few occasions. All that is exactly as before.
Jeg tror, at det er rigtigt, at der for de mindre bryggerier træffes helt præcise bestemmelser om fritagelse.
That means that Parliament's role vis-à-vis the activity of the joint committee is subject to a degree of restriction deriving from the restriction placed on the working of that committee.
Blaney (ARC). — (EN) Fm formand, jeg vil bare gerne have lov at sige, at når man lytter til alle táleme fra den nordlige del af Fællesskabet, virker det, som om vi har større interesse for spiritus og øl end flertallet.
To begin with I must say that the Commission too was surprised by the Court of Justice's ruling on the reconcilability or rather the irreconcilability of the agreement with the Treaty of Rome and more particularly the Court's interpretation of that Treaty.
Måske forstår man ikke i de sydlige lande, at det, vi drikker, faktisk stort set er det samme som det, de drikker.
We asked for that opinion and of course we have to abide by it, not just because the Court is a high authority but because the Treaty requires it.
Virkningen er i hvert fald den samme, afhængig af, hvor meget man drikker.
Those talks are still continuing at present.
Det fører mig til noget, der er blevet gentaget igen og igen her i eftermiddag, nemlig at rent bortset fra det frie marked og lige konkurrence vilkår, så er det en temmelig grov idé, at Fællesskabet skal påtvinge os normer for, hvordan de toldsatser skal være, vi skal opkræve i vore respektive medlemslande på forskellige alkoholiske produkter, og dét ikke engang på en rimelig måde.
You need at least two parties to hold a discussion and to conclude a discussion successfully, but I hope we shall complete these discussions very shortly and in any case within a few weeks — I hope it will be even sooner, Mr Tomlinson — so that the agreement can be initialled very quickly, with a view of course to the point which the two honourable members raised, namely the agreement coming into effect at the same time as the internal market in January 1993.
Jeg er helt enig med de forskellige talere, der har efterlyst en ensartet, fair og retfærdig behandling af de forskel lige produkter.
The Council's express insistence that this is a mixed-type agreement, requiring ratification by the parliaments of all the Member States, naturally makes it no easier to meet that deadline, because the twelve parliaments of the EC countries have to be consulted and we know that we cannot always influence the pace at which things are dealt with in these national parliaments.
Jeg vil særlig understrege — siden det ikke blev fremhævet stærkt nok — hvad den sidste taler har sagt om cider.
But I can assure Parliament that the Commission will do everything possible in our part of the procedure to keep to the specified date.
Jeg kunne ikke være mere enig i, hvad fru Daly sagde, og jeg vil relatere det til det, der er blevet sagt om øl over for vin.
PRESIDENT. — I have received five motions for resolutions with request for an early vote to wind up this debate.l
Det er en kendsgerning, at der nu drikkes mere øl i de sydlige lande end tidligere, og at der omvendt drikkes mere vin i de nordlige lande.
The vote on the request for an early vote will take place at the end of the debate.
Så hvorfor dette forsøg på at bringe hele situationen ud af balance for at give en fordel til vinen frem for øllet og spiritussen, og i særdeleshed frem for cider?
We have encountered a strange phenomenon in connection with this issue, namely that the Commission — from the very start and after the Court's ruling — has tried to make the European Economic Area as homogeneous as possible and make the Community's decisionmaking and institutions as autonomous as possible, and that the Council told us a few days ago that a degree of flexibility was needed.
Hvad angår harmoniseringen inden for dette område som helhed, mener jeg, at det er et væsentligt fremskridt ved denne betænkning, at vi på den ene side ganske vist får mindsteafgiftssatser, men at vi også har ladet de forskellige tilknytningspunkter ved den proportionale og specifikke punktafgift forblive, som de var.
But we must at all events ensure that the circumstances in which industry operates in the European Economic Area are the same for companies in the European Community and those in the EFTA countries and that the eventuality of differing interpretations of the law applicable does not lead to differences in the positions of companies in the two categories.
På grundlag af dette forslag finder jeg det vigtigt — fru kommissær, jeg ville gerne vide, om De overtager det, eller hvad De agter at gøre på dette område — at vi fastlægger mindsteværdien af den specifikke og proportionale afgiftsandel til 35 ECU pr. 1 000 cigaretter.
That of course is essential to us at the Commission, because the aim in creating the European Economic Area must not be to introduce the possibility of advantages to some to the detriment of others.
Randzio-Plath (S). — (DE) Fru formand, jeg tror, at vi som følge af de årelange og meget intensive debatter om forbrugsskatter alle ved, at ikke blot private følelser og præferencer, kulturelle forskelle, vaner og skikke spiller en stor rolle i denne sammen hæng, men at det naturligvis også er et spørgsmål om statsbudgettets indtægtsside, hvorledes en har monisering af forbrugsskatterne skal gennemføres.
DURY (S). — (FR) Mr President, I do not understand why the Commission should be surprised by what is now happening. While there were always many honourable Members who supported the creation of the European Economic Area, there were others pointing to the potential pitfalls and my impression is that the Commission did not pay enough attention to what they were saying.
Derfor er det forståeligt, at der forelå så store vanskeligheder for vore ordførere.
We consistently said that the initial ambiguity was both political and institutional.
Til sidst vil jeg gerne bemærke endnu en ting: Jeg mener, at det på grundlag af denne debat om harmonisering af punktafgifterne er blevet tydeligt, at Parlamentet kan spille rollen som europæisk integrationsmotor, og at det er muligt at opnå europæiske kompromiser. Jeg må dog endnu engang beklage, at det i Maastricht hverken var muligt at gøre harmoniseringen af skatte- og afgiftspolitikken til en sag, der er underlagt flertalsafgørelse, eller at tillægge Parlamentet flere beføjelser på dette område.
There was political ambiguity because at the outset we were told that this was an alternative to enlargement, whereas later on we were told that if it did not succeed, enlargement would be in jeopardy.
Peijs del til at tjene befolkningens sundhed.
DURY was established who had the final word on points of law in this economic area.
blem, men i at de endelig giver Parlamentet mulig hed for at udtale sig, hvad det burde have gjort for lang tid siden.
finally because, as we have always said, or some of us at least, there could be no economic integration without political integration.
De nederlandske myndigheder indfører f.eks. en forhøjelse af punktafgifterne for tobak i tre faser, næsten som finansminister Koks 75 cents.
Why? The Austrian people will not vote in a referendum on accession to the area, but they will vote on accession to the Community.
Lad os således ikke være mere hykleriske end strengt nødvendigt.
It is now necessary to react. You are reacting.
Punktafgifter har intet at gøre med befolkningens sundhed, men de har alt at gøre med myndighedernes indtægter.
But the European Parliament has to say that it will not be good enough to react in just any fashion and at any cost.
Jeg ville derfor udelukkende gå ind for en nulsats for vin, hvis denne sats bliver grundsatsen, og dernæst gå ud fra 1 til 3, således at alt fortsat er nul.
I want to go along with the opinion of the Committee on Institutional Affairs on this.
Hvorfor så stor en forskel i opkrævningen af punktafgifter for vin og spiritus uden nogen logik.
We of course say that the Court of Justice ruling must be strictly adhered to.
Jeg forstår det ikke.
You have said so also.
Måske kan kommissæren lige forklare fornuften bag denne nulsats.
Some of us also think that in this context the future draft agreement must be submitted once again to the Court of Justice and we give notice that this is by way of being a prerequisite for our assent.
Så er der tobakken.
I think so.
Der er grund nok til at skåne nogle dele af tobaksområdet ud fra en praktisk og realistisk synsvinkel.
If the Treaty requires a treaty like this to be referred to the Court, because the final Treaty never was referred to the Court for its approval, surely that is a good thing, Commissioner ?
Hvis vi begynder at beskatte snus og skråtobak, så koster opkrævningen af denne skat mere, end vi nogen sinde vil hente der.
It really would be embarrassing if we were made to look foolish a second time just prior to signature.
Det forekommer mig ikke i borgernes interesse.
Perhaps the Commissioner might comment on that.
Dernæst står det fast, at for pibetobaks og cigarers vedkommende ville overdreven opkrævning af afgifter betyde enden for denne branche.
I would add that the European Parliament cannot accept the weakening of its legislative role, of the role of our institutions collectively.
Og det kan aldrig være hensigten med en afgiftsopkrævning. Lad os så sige, at vi er ved at gennemføre en sanering, men det er vi heller ikke.
This refers in particular, as Mrs Jepsen has already pointed out, to the powers of the European Parliament, and my view for the time being is that Article 2 of Protocol 36 ought to be renegotiated and changed to meet the European Parliament's wishes.
Derfor tror jeg, at der for cigarers vedkommende højst kan opkræves 20% i afgifter i overgangsfasen og for pibetobak betydeligt mindre end for røgtobak.
In our opinion, which you do not share, we are talking here about an institutional imbalance which seriously undermines the Community decisionmaking process.
Forskellen i branchernes bæreevne ligger bl.a. til grund for den indførte forskel mellem røgtobak og pibetobak.
I believe, probably in common with you, that swift action is needed but, as I have said, we cannot accept anything that conflicts with the treaties.
Dette stillede jeg i øvrigt et ændringsforslag om i udvalget, hvilket burde have glædet dem, der ikke ønsker at sondre mellem vin og øl, men de stemte imod.
DE CLERCQ (LDR). — (NL) Let there be no misunderstanding about it, Mr President, Com missioner, I and a lot of others — the majority of us here — are still in favour of the European Economic Area.
Rådet har vedtaget nulsatsen for vin, som for øjeblikket er gældende i halvdelen af medlemsstaterne.
The argument that EFTA may be in the process of falling apart is not of overriding importance to me.
I den forbindelse vil jeg gerne erindre om, at allerede med Hippokrates fik vin sit adelsbrev som terapeutisk middel, da vin ifølge lægevidenskabens »fader« er som skabt for mennesket og har en række gode egenskaber, såvel for syge som for sunde, hvis den doseres korrekt og i overensstemmelse med den individuelle konstitution.
We want an agreement, then. We believe it is a matter of urgency, that ideally the agreement should come into effect simultaneously with completion of the single market on 1 January next, but above all we want a good agreement and not just any agreement.
Måtte højafgiftsfanatikerne tage dette til efterretning og stemme for mit ændringsforslag om nulsats.
That serves no purpose, but our faith in a certain institution's expertise regarding the substance of the matter was shaken.
Endvidere vil jeg gerne give udtryk for min overraskelse over, at Kommissionen i sit forslag om andre tobakssorter end cigaretter vil gøre systemet i de medlemsstater, hvor der praktisk taget ikke anvendes røgtobak, til det generelle system.
Someone has come a bit of a cropper here, if I may put it that way. I very much hope that the necessary steps are now going to be taken to ensure that we do not end up with an agreement that flouts or fails to comply in full with the Community Treaty.
Lulling (PPE). — (FR) Fru formand, de foreliggende betænkningers største fortjeneste ligger ikke i deres indhold, der omhandler et kontroversielt pro
PEIJS (PPE). — (NL) Mr President, I have not been following the discussions with a jaundiced eye.
Med hensyn til tobak kan jeg sige så meget, at tobakafhængighed ikke bekæmpes ved at forbyde reklamer eller pålægge cigaretter og andre forarbejdede tobaksvarer endnu højere afgifter end de eksisterende.
The point is that we hope there will soon be a solution to the problem and that we believe in all honesty that the specific and unique character of the agreement and above all the structure chosen for it means that a thorough consideration of the agreement is essential.
Også på dette område er Luxembourg aftalerne af 24. juni afbalancerede.
Because we have the impression that the Court of Justice also hinted at further question marks over the agreement in addition to those on the system of judicial review, which it condemned.
De dokumenter, der er udarbejdet på grundlag af disse aftaler, har siden den 20. januar ligget på Rådets bord.
Unlike yourself, Mr President, I thus think that every precaution must be taken and the final agreement must be submitted again to the European Court of Justice for its opinion. Then we as parliamentarians shall know where our duty lies.
I Frankrig vil omsætningsafgiften på disse produkter stige fra 6% til 12 og dernæst til 15.
Whether the agreement is indeed reconcilable with the European Treaties and whether Parliament's super vision of the agreement is real or just a joke.
Værdiafgiftselementer af detailprisen inklusive alle afgifter på 57% for
That is what we want, and we agree with the opinion of the
har drøftet spørgmålet i Parlamentets Udvalg om Økonomi, Valutaspørgsmål og Industripolitik.
Institutional Affairs Committee that in any event the Commission must be requested to refer this agreement back to the Court of Justice.
Beumer (PPE). — (NL) Fru formand, fem punkter vil jeg gerne nævne for kortheds skyld.
MOORHOUSE (ED). — Mr President, as a member of the Rex Committee I was not alone in having serious misgivings from the outset about the proposal to set up the EEA.