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Mener ministeren ikke, at der kunne udøves et sådant pres, at der kunne lægges et diplomatisk pres, før man indstiller bistanden?
Do you not think. Minister, that pressure of this kind, diplomatic pressure, could be exerted before suspending cooperation?
FORMANDEN. — Undskyld, jeg forstod ikke spørgsmålet.
PRESIDENT. — I am sorry, I had not understood you properly.
Nej, tidligere medlemmer har ikke lov til at opholde sig i salen.
It is indeed true that former Members have no right to be in this Chamber.
Hvis De kan pege på et konkret tilfælde, ville jeg være glad for, om De forelagde det for Præsidiet.
If you wish to point out a specific case, I should be grateful if you would address the matter to the Bureau.
Jeg kender endnu ikke alle de personer, der må være herinde, heller ikke medlemmerne fra andre institutioner.
I do not yet recognise everyone who is entitled to come in here, particularly members of other institutions.
Jeg går ud fra, at alle har ret til at være her.
I presume that everyone here has the right to be here.
GAREL JONES. — (EN) Igen er jeg helt enig i, hvad det ærede medlem siger.
GAREL JONES. — Again, I absolutely take on board what the honourable Member is saying.
Hvis man forsøger at anvende, hvad vi på engelsk ville kalde principperne for god embedsudøvelse, menneskerettighedsprincipperne på vore bistandsbestræbelser i andre lande, er der naturligvis undertiden meget vanskelige afgørelser at træffe, og en vanskelig balance at opretholde.
There is, of course, if' one is seeking to apply what in English we would call good government principles, human rights principles, to our assistance efforts in other countries, sometimes a very difficult judgement to be made and a very difficult balance to be struck.
Jeg tror, vor vurdering i øjeblikket er, at den bistand, der gives i henhold til Lomé IV, stort set henhører under kategorien humanitær bistand, som den forrige taler berørte, og at man kunne skade uskyldige borgere i landet.
I think our judgement at the moment is that the assistance being given through Lomé IV would fall broadly into the category of human itarian assistance touched on by the previous speaker and would prejudice innocent citizens in that country.
Men den baggrund, som vi ser meget nøje på, er for det første den politiske situation og den udvikling, vi håber finder sted i Niger i retning af en mere demokratisk ordning. Vi forventer, at dette vil være tilendebragt den 31. januar 1993.
But the background that we are watching very closely is first of all the political situation and the transition that we hope is taking place in Niger towards a more democratic set-up.
Vi er nu ved at træffe de praktiske forberedelser.
The necessary logistics are being put in place.
MAHER stålvirksomhed FINSIDER-ILVA blev behandlet i forbindelse med sin anden omstrukturering i 1989.
The Commission, and no doubt the Council, will need to accord equitable and balanced treatment to the necessary restructuring of the Spanish steel industry, comparable to the treatment given to the Italian steel undertaking Finsider­Ilva in 1989 during its second phase of restructuring.
Fællesskabet og andre samfund igennem mange år har taget over for Sydafrika, til sidst bar frugt.
What voluntary or compulsory reductions in capacity were made to compensate other Community indus­tries for the aids authorized?
Hvilken kapacitetsreduktion er blevet foreslået ellet krævet for at give de øvrige EF-industrier kompensation for den tilkendte støtte?
I could remind the President­in­Office of the Council that the action taken over many years by this Community and other communities in relation to South Africa did bear fruit in the end.
spørgsmål nr. 13 af de la Cámara Martínez (H-1123/92): Om: Jern- og stålindustrien
Question No 13 by Mr de la Cámara Martinez (Η­Ν 23/92)
GAREL JONES. — (EN) Jeg er sikker på, at jeg ikke behøver at minde det ærede medlem om, at Rådet er imod diskrimination, ligegyldigt hvad grunden til den er, og i særdeleshed når det drejer sig om etniske minoriteter, ligegyldigt hvor noget sådant forekommer.
GAREL JONES. — I am sure I do not have to remind the honourable Member that the Council opposes discrimi­nation whatever the grounds and particularly against ethnic minorities wherever it may appear.
Jeg kan for sikre ham om, at Rådet holder denne situation under konstant overvågning, og som jeg sagde, er der altid en vanskelig afgørelse at træffe og balance at finde.
I do assure him that the Council does keep this situation under continuous review and, as I say, it is always a difficult judgement to make and balance to strike.
Jeg vil minde det ærede medlem om, at én medlemsstat — Frankrig — samt Algier begge har været involveret som mæglere i denne konflikt, og efter de begivenheder, der har fundet sted for nylig, tror jeg, at premierministeren har lovet en national rådgivende konference for alle de berørte grupper.
I would remind the honoura­ble Member that one Member State — France — and Algeria have both been involved as mediators in this dispute, and following recent events I believe the Prime Minister has proposed a national consultative conference for all the groups involved.
Vi håber meget, at det kan føre til en bedring af situationen.
We very much hope that that may lead to a happier situation.
FORMANDEN. — Da følgende spørgsmål vedrører samme emne, vil vi underet behandle spørgsmål nr. 10 af Landa Mendibe (H-l 111/92): spørgsmål nr. 14 af Bofill Abeilhe (H-l 125/92): Om: Jern- og stålindustrien
PRESIDENT. — As they deal with the same subject, the following questions will be taken together:
Har Kommissionen desuden i forbindelse med omstruktureringen af den spanske jern- og stålindu stri henholdt sig til de samme kriterier, for så vidt angår fastsættelsen af støttens størrelse?
On 24 November 1992, the Council will take a decision concerning the restructuring plan for the steel industry submitted by CSI regarding the Span­ish state.
spørgsmål nr. 15 af Dührkop Dührkop (H-l 127/92): Om: Jern- og stålindustrien
Question No 15 by Mrs Diihrkop Diihrkop (H­l 126/92) Subject: Steel industry
Vil Rådet ved sin afgørelse tage hensyn til de fremsatte argumenter og have målsætningen om økonomisk og social samhørighed for øje? En ny omstrukturering ville i allerhøjeste grad så tvivl om samhørigheden og gøre de nuværende uligheder endnu større.
This restructuring would have a serious effect on the steel industry in the Basque country, where, follow­ing an earlier restructuring, it is forecast that on this occasion over 9000 persons would be made redun­dant, in a region where unemployment is three times higher than the Community average and the steel industry is a strategic sector of vital importance for the local economy.
spørgsmål nr. 11 af Colom i Naval (H-l 119/92): Om: Jern- og stålindustrien
What reduction in capacity in comparison with the capacity of the undertakings is offered by the Spanish plan?
Hvilken kapacitetsreduktion påtænkes i planen for Spanien, set i forhold til virksomhedens samlede kapacitet?
Does the Council intend to take account of these considerations in its decision, in the light of the objective of" economic and social cohesion, which would be seriously jeopardized by the proposed further restructuring and the consequent intensifica­tion of the existing imbalances?
og spørgsmål nr. 16 af García Arias (H-l 130/92):
Question No 16 by Mrs Garcia Arias (H­l 130/92) Subject: Spanish integrated steel plan
Om: Den spanske plan for en integreret jern- og stålindustri
Question No 11 by Mr Colom i Naval (H­l 119/92) Subject: Steel industry
Hvilken støtte er blevet godkendt til den italienske jern- og stålindustri? Hvorledes blev denne støtte kvantificeret?
The Commission, and no doubt the Council, will need to accord equitable and balanced treatment to the necessary restructuring of the Spanish steel industry, comparable to the treatment given to the Italian steel undertaking Finsider­Ilva in 1989 during its second phase of' restructuring.
spørgsmål nr. 12 af Miranda De Lage (H-l 121/92): Om: Jern- og stålindustrien
What aids were authorized for the Italian steel industry?
Den nødvendige kapacitetsreduktion inden for jernog stålindustrien vil få vigtige regionale følger i form af direkte eller indirekte tab af arbejdspladser, især i regionerne Asturias, der af EF er klassificeret som ugunstigt stillet region, og Baskerlandet, hvis industri er i tilbagegang, og disse to regioner er i forvejen hårdt ramt af arbejdsløshed på grund af tidligere eller planlagte industrielle omstruktureringer.
Taking into account the substantial regional impact which the sacrifices in terms of the cut­back in steel­making capacity and the loss ofjobs, both in the industry itself and as a knock­on effect, will have in two regions such as Asturias, described by the EEC as a less­favoured region, and the Basque country, a declining industrial region, both of which already suffer from severe unemployment as a result of industrial restructuring, more of which is planned, does the Council not share my view that the inte­grated steel plan put forward by the Spanish Govern­
FORMANDEN des at den nye virksomhedsstrukturs fremtidige leve­dygtighed kan sikres?
PRESIDENT ment should be approved in order to ensure the viability of' the industry in its revamped form?
Dernæst vil jeg gerne i forlængelse af det, han sagde om import fra Østeuropa som en afgørende faktor for den industrielle omstrukturering, spørge, om han ikke tror, at denne omstrukturering bør finde sted i de mere rige fællesskabslande og ikke i de mere fattige.
imports from Eastern Europe as a factor determining industrial reconversion, does he not think that this reconversion ought to take place in the richest countries of the Community and not the poorest?
GAREL JONES, formand for Rådet. — (EN) Indtil dato har Rådet kun modtaget to meddelelser fra Kommis­sionen om dette emne.
GAREL JONES, President-in-Office of the Council. — To date the Council has received only two communications from the Commission on this subject.
Den ene om omstrukturering af den spanske stålvirksomhed Corporación de la Síderúgi­ca Integral og den anden om omstrukturering af Sidenor­virksomheden.
One, on the restructuring of the Spanish steel undertaking. Corporación de la Siderúrgica Integral and the other on the restructuring of the Sidenor undertaking.
De foranstaltninger, den spanske regering har planlagt, skal tillades i henhold til artikel 95 i Traktaten om Kul­ og Stålfællesskabet, da de indebærer en undtagelse fra den nuværende bestemmelse om hjælp til stålindustrien, afgørelse 3855/91.
The measures planned by the Spanish Government must be authorized under Article 95 of the ECSC Treaty as they would mean a derogation from the current code on aid to the steel industry. Decision 3855/91.
Kommissionen må derfor forelægge et formelt forslag for Rådet, når tiden er inde.
The Commission will there fore have to place a formal proposal before the Council in due course.
Jeg sagde, og jeg vil ikke gentage det detaljeret, at når dette skal overvejes, bliver Rådet nødt til at tage hensyn til de sociale, økonomiske og regionale proble­mer i Spanien eller enhver anden medlemsstat, hvor disse ting er under overvejelse.
I have made the point and I will not repeat it at length that when this comes to be considered the Council will have to take into account the social, economic and regional problems involved in Spain or in any other Member State where these matters are being considered.
Hvad angår bistanden til Italien, så har man anset den for at være i overensstem­melse med den støtte, der kan bevilges inden for Fælles­skabet.
So far as the aid given to Italy was concerned, it was judged to be consistent with the aid granted inside the Community.
Det er derfor, jeg har ment, at for så vidt angik dette spørgsmål, ville det være forkert af mig på forhånd at afgøre eller foregribe de drøftelser, der skal finde sted om de to tilfælde i Spanien.
That is why I felt, so far as this particular question is concerned, that it would be wrong for me to prejudge or anticipate the discussions that will take place on the particular two instances in Spain.
Naturligvis kan en undtagelse fra bestemmelserne om bistand til den spanske stålindustri ikke overvejes, uden at man tager hensyn til den nuværende situation for Fællesskabets jern­ og stålmarked som helhed.
Naturally a derogation from the aid code for the Spanish steel industry cannot be considered without taking into account the present situation on the Community iron and steel market as a whole.
Fælles­skabets stålindustri er i øjeblikket inde i en vanskelig periode på grund af den generelle reduktion af den økonomiske virksomhed, en stagnerende efterspørgsel, et for stort udbud og sammenbrud af priserne.
The Community steel industry is currently going through a difficult period owing to the general slowdown in the economy, stagnation of demand, excess supply and price collapse.
Disse indre faktorer bliver forværret af afmatningen på det internatio­nale marked og dollarens svaghed, presset fra importen, i særdeleshed fra Østeuropa, og uenigheden med De Fore­nede Stater om handelen, hvilket påvirker ca. 50% af Fællesskabets eksport til dette marked.
These internal factors are exacerbated by the weakness of the international market and the dollar, the pressure from imports, in particular from Eastern Europe, and the trade dispute with the United States which affects some 50% of Community exports to that market.
Jeg kan ikke fremlægge yderligere oplysninger, da jeg hverken på forhånd kan bedømme eller foregribe de drøftelser, som Rådet vil afholde ved sit møde den 24. november i år.
I am unable to provide any further information as I can neither prejudge nor anticipate the discussions which the Council will be holding at its meeting on 24 November next.
MIRANDA DE LAGE (S). — (ES) Alt imens minutterne går, øges vor bekymring, da vi ikke har fået et klart svar fra rådsformanden.
MIRANDA DE LAGE (S). — (ES) We are growing more concerned every minute because we are not getting a clear answer from the President-in-Office of the Council.
Det er muligt, at han ikke kan givet os et sådant, men det er ikke medvirkende til at bortmane den bekymring, vi føler, især fordi krisen berører hele området i Cantábrica.
Perhaps he cannot give us one, but that is doing nothing about the concern we are now feeling, especially as the whole Cantabrian coast is in crisis.
Og jeg vil gerne fremhæve noget, som rådsformanden selv nævnte: Han henviste til De Forenede Stater, og det forekommer ikke rimeligt at ofre et fællesskabsland for at kunne opretholde mere privile­gerede forbindelser eller for at forbedre nogle forbindel­ser med en magt som De Forenede Stater.
And I want to highlight something the President-in-Office of the Council himself said. He mentioned the United States and it does not seem right to make a Community State sacrifice itself in order to maintain or improve special relations with a power like the United States.
LANDA MENDIBE (NI). — (ES) På baggrund af Deres svar, hr. rådsformand, kan jeg for det første konstatere, at de forpligtelser, som påhviler Kommissionen, ikke frita­ger Rådet for dets egne forpligtelser, og jeg vil dernæst minde om, at det ikke er Traktaten om Den Europæiske Union, men Den Europæiske Fællesakt, som i artikel 130 Β udtrykkeligt siger, at medlemsstaterne skal føre deres økonomiske politik og især udviklingen af det indre marked og alle de fælles former for politik under hensyn­tagen til den økonomiske og sociale samhørighed.
LANDA MENDIBE (NI). — (ES) Now that I have heard your reply, I first of all want to point out that the obligations of the Commission do not exonerate the Council from its own obligations and I must remind you that article 130 B, not even of the draft Treaty of Union, but of the Single European Act, specifically states that Member States must manage their economic policies and in particular the development of the internal market and all the common policies with a view to achieving the objective of economic and social cohesion.
GAREL JONES. — (EN) Det ærede medlem har natur­ligvis helt ret.
GAREL JONES. — The honourable Member is absolutely right of course.
Det ville være aldeles forkert af mig at forsøge at foregribe eller påvirke disse afgørelser, hvor man skal træffe vanskelige valg, og som sagt har disse valg i særdeleshed at gøre med situationen i det enkelte medlemsland og det erhverv, man drøfter, så det ville være forkert af mig at forsøge at påvirke eller foregribe denne afgørelse.
It would be quite wrong of me to try to anticipate or influence these decisions where difficult judgments have to be made and, as I say, those judge ments are specifically focused on the situation in the individual Member State and the individual industry under discussion so it would actually be wrong of me to try to influence or prejudge that decision.
Det forholder sig sådan, at hele Fælles­skabets stålindustri står over for et meget alvorligt pro­blem, og, som jeg sagde i mit svar, vi er uenige med De Forenede Stater om denne sag.
The fact is that the whole of the Community's steel industry faces a very severe problem and we are, as I said in my answer, in dispute with the United States over this matter.
Jeg vil ikke gå helt så vidt som det ærede medlem og sige, at fordi vi har uoverens­stemmelser med De Forenede Stater om stålkvoterne i øjeblikket, så betyder det nødvendigvis, at hele vort forhold til en højt skattet handelspartner skal smides over bord.
I would not go quite as far as the honourable Member and say because we are in dispute with the United States on steel quotas at the moment that this necessarily means that our whole relationship with a valued trading partner should be thrown out of the window.
de la CÁMARA MARTINEZ (S). — (ES) Jeg vil gerne ligesom mine kolleger takke rådsformanden for, at han har bestræbt sig på at svare, men det forekommer mig en smule tamt med alle de almindeligheder, han kommer med. Jeg efterlyser noget mere konkret.
de la CÁMARA MARTINEZ (S). — (ES) Like my comrades, I do thank the President-in- Office for making an effort to answer, but the number of generalizations he is trotting out in one appearance is putting him to shame. I wish he could be more specific.
Jeg har f.eks. spurgt om kapacitetsreduktionen i forbin­delse med FINSIDER­ILVA i Italien, eftersom jeg kan oplyse ham om, at den integrerede spanske plan for jern­og stålindustrien går i retning af en nedskæring af produktionskapaciteten med ca. 29 %.
For example, I asked him by how much productive capacity was reduced in the case of FINSIDERILVA, in Italy, because he can take it from me that the Spanish integrated iron and steel plan is looking for a reduction in productive capacity of around 29%.
GAREL JONES. — (EN) Jeg forstår det ærede medlems bekymring og bekymringen hos andre ærede med­lemmer, der deltager i denne drøftelse.
GAREL JONES. — I understand the honourable Member's concern and that of other honourable Members who are participating in this question.
Jeg må kompli­mentere ham for den opfindsomhed, han har udvist ved at bringe økonomisk og social samhørighed på bane i forbindelse med denne vanskelige situation.
I congratulate him on his ingenuity in introducing the aspects of economic and social cohesion into this difficult situation.
Det er rig­tigt, at Rådet under sine drøftelser af problemerne med omstrukturering af den spanske industri bliver nødt til at tage hensyn til de sociale, økonomiske og regionale problemer, som Spanien står overfor i øjeblikket.
It is true that in discussions about the problem of restructuring Spanish industry, the Council will certainly have to take into account the social, economic and regional problems that Spain faces at this present moment.
Men jeg vil minde ham om, at støtte til stålsektoren henhører under artikel 4c i Traktaten om Det Europæiske Kul­ og Stålfællesskab.
But I would remind him that steel aid comes under Article 4c of the European Coal and Steel Treaty.
Vi ønsker nogle tal på bordet og vil gerne vide, hvorledes Kommissionen og Rådet har behandlet andre medlems­stater, så vi ikke får mistanke om, at man anvender forskellige målestokke for de forskellige kriser.
We want facts and we want to know how the Commission and the Council have treated other Member States, because the fact is, we do not see how they can deal with two similar crises in two such different ways.
COLOM I NAVAL (S). — (ES) Som en af spørgerne vil jeg gerne gøre opmærksom på to ting.
COLOM I NAVAL (S). — (ES) As one of those who put down a question. I would like to make two points.
For det første, at rådsformanden øjensynligt ikke svarede mig, da jeg
First, the President of the Council has not answered my question, of course, because I asked him about restructuring aid for the Italian steelworks, and he did not even touch on that. But secondly, taking up what he said about
Det budskab, jeg håber, er kommet igennem fra diskussionen af dette spørgsmål, er for det første, at det er noget, som spanske medlemmer fra alle fløje her i Parlamentet og fra alle regioner i Spanien er meget bekymrede over.
GAREL JONES come across from this questioning is first of all that this a matter of very grave concern to Spanish Members from all sides of the House and from all regions of Spain.
Kommissionen erkender, at de planer for omstrukturering, som den spanske regering har i øjeblikket, udgør en heroisk bestræbelse fra denne regering under meget vanskelige forhold.
The Commission recognizes that the plans for restructuring that the Spanish Government have at the moment are a courageous effort by the Government in very difficult circumstances.
Planer ne, sådan som vi har dem i øjeblikket, involverer imidlertid væsentlige undtagelser fra reglerne i bestemmelserne om statslig bistand, og derfor må Rådet se meget nøje på dem.
However, the plans as we have them at the moment would involve a considerable derogation from the state aid code and therefore need to be considered very carefully by the Council.
DAVID (S). — (EN) Rådsformanden skitserede i sine indledende bemærkninger nogle afgrundene til, at stålindustrien i Europa er i vanskeligheder.
DAVID (S). — The President-in-Office in his initial remarks outlined some of the reasons why the steel industry in Europe was experiencing difficulties.
Blandt de grunde, han opregnede, var den faldende efterspørgsel efter stål i Fællesskabet og ligeledes importen til Vesteuropa fra Østeuropa.
Amongst the reasons which he listed was the falling demand for steel in the European Community and also the imports into Western Europe from Eastern Europe.
Er han i ly set af disse bemærkninger enig med mig i, at det, der nu er et påtrængende behov for, er en samarbejdspakke mellem Fællesskabets medlemsstater for at stimulere efterspørgslen og genopbygge økono mierne, og vil han foreslå, at det bliver et af de vigtigste punkter på dagsordenen ved topmødet i Edinburgh?
In the light of his remarks, would he agree with me that what is urgently required now is a cooperative package between the Member States of the Community to encourage demand and to rebuild the economies and will the President-in-Office be suggesting that this be one of the main items on the agenda at the Edinburgh summit?
Er han for det andet enig med mig og faktisk også med British Steel i, at der nu også er et påtrængende behov for en energisk og effektiv indsats for at forhindre dumping i Fællesskabet fra andre dele af Europa?
Secondly, would he agree with me and indeed agree with British Steel that what is desperately required now also is robust and effective action to prevent dumping into the European Community from other parts of' Europe?
Hvad specielt angår spørgsmålet om de ting, der blev lagt vægt på f.eks. under diskussionen i Italien, så er det noget, som man må henvende sig til Kommissionen om.
The specific questions about the matters that weighed during the consideration for example in Italy are something that would have to be addressed to the Commission.