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Vi må forstå, at når forslaget bliver vedtaget, så vil det ikke i første omgang føre til nogen stor folkevandring, og vi peger naturligvis på nødvendigheden af at opretholde presset for øgede pensioner.
We have to recognize that when the proposal is implemented it will not in the first instance
Jeg vil naturligvis ikke tale om de spørgsmål, der blev rejst der.
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Vi har hørt mange udtalelser, der gik ind for opholdsret, men vi har ikke set megen handling.
MEGAHY lead to a big rush and we do, of course, point to the need to keep up the pressure for increasing pensions.
Hvad angår de andre artikler, så har vi i artikel 1 foretaget én ændring for at gøre det muligt for personer, der har arbejdet uden for Fællesskabet, at komme i betragtning, og i artikel 2 vil vi gerne have, at de fem år automatisk kan forlænges.
As far as the other articles are concerned, on Article 1 we made one change to allow people who have worked outside the Community to qualify and on Article 2 wc want to see the five years being automatically extended.
Vi ønsker også endnu en beretning fra Kommissionen efter tre års forløb, så vi kan se frem til næste fase.
We also want a further report from the Commission after three years so that we can look forward to the next stage.
Men jeg må komplimentere Kommissionen for dens forslag.
However, I must congratulate the Commission on its proposal.
Estgen (PPE), ordfører. — (FR) Hr. formand, tak ket være hr. Bangemanns strategi er nu omsider efter ti års drøftelser, tøven og modstand fra Rådets side den dag kommet, hvor Parlamentet kan forhandle og stemme om tre direktivforslag om opholdsret, tre direktiver som danner en helhed, hvorfor de bør koordineres tekstmæssigt, vedtages og gennemføres under ét.
ESTGEN (PPE), rapporteur. — (FR) Mr President, thanks to the strategy of Vice-President Bangemann the day has finally come, after ten years of discussion, hesitation and opposition from the Council, when Parliament can at last debate and vote on three draft directives relating to the right of residence.
Jeg begrænser selvfølgelig mit indlæg til min egen betænkning om opholdsret for studerende.
In fact these three directives form a unit, so their texts really need to be coordinated and they should be implemented together.
Den giver kun delvis opholdsret, fordi visse kategorier faktisk er blevet udeladt.
First of all, the expression 'to facilitate residence for students' strikes us as too weak.
Ikke desto mindre gør vi det i de ændringsforslag, vi har stillet, meget klart, at vi ser dette som et første skridt på vejen mod opholdsret for alle Fællesskabets pensionister i hele Fællesskabet.
We want the Member States to take measures to guarantee residence effect ively, without discrimination, to students from Com munity Member States and also guarantee them the transfer of student grants and loans from the State of origin to the host State, which is not always the case at present.
Det synes jeg er fornuftigt, for pensionisterne er jo faktisk forhenværende arbejdere. Det er de menne sker, der har skabt nutidens velstand, og jeg synes, de fortjener at blive behandlet på samme måde som arbejdstagerne.
The Committee on Youth, Culture, Education, Information and Sport maintains that the right of residence should depend on two conditions: enrolment in a university or other establishment of higher education on a course of professional training and, secondly, medical insurance cover.
Udvalget om Sociale Anliggender, Beskæftigelse og Arbejdsmiljø var det første af udvalgene, der behandlede en betænkning.
The Commission has abandoned the condition that students should have to prove that they have adequate resources available to prevent their becoming a burden on social security in the host State during the period.
Det er med glæde, at vi konstaterer, at borgernes Europa gradvis gennemføres, og at Fællesskabet lidt efter lidt, men reelt bliver vort andet færdreland.
I shall of course limit my speech to my own report on the right of residence for students.
Hvis der imidlertid er et aspekt, der er betydningsfuldt og håndgribeligt, så er det den frie bevægelighed og opholdsretten for alle Fællesskabets borgere i en hvilken som helst medlemsstat.
We note with satisfaction that the People's Europe is steadily coming into existence and the Community area is slowly but surely becoming a second homeland for all of us.
Lønmodtagere og selvstændige har allerede haft denne rettighed i tyve år, og det er uforståeligt, hvorfor ulønnede åndsarbejdere ikke skal have samme ret som lønmodtagere.
Now, if there is one essential and tangible aspect to this People's Europe, it is certainly freedom of movement and the right of residence for every Community citizen from whatever Member State.
Estgen tilstrækkelige midler, har foreslået en ændring, der går ud på, at den studerende skal afgive en simpel erklæring om at råde over tilstrækkelige midler.
Paid and selfemployed workers have already enjoyed this right for twenty years and one cannot see why unpaid intellectual workers should be refused what is accorded to paid workers.
Der er for øvrigt kun tale om gennemførelse af Den Fælles Akt, hvorom medlemsstaternes regeringer har erklæret at ville samarbejde for at sikre alle borgere denne opholdsret.
Moreover this is only an application of the Single European Act, in connection with which the govern ments of the Member States have declared their intention to cooperate to ensure that all citizens have this right of residence.
Med henblik på det indre marked og tiden efter 1992 og i overensstemmelse med ERASMUS-programmet vil Fællesskabet fremme de studerendes mobilitet inden for Fællesskabet.
Looking ahead to the great common market and the aftermath of 1992, and in line with the Erasmus programme, the Community intends to encourage student mobility within the Community.
Men ERASMUS-program-mets mål, hvorefter 10% af de studerende inden 1992 helt eller delvis skal gennemføre deres studier i en anden medlemsstat end den, hvori de er hjem mehørende, er langt fra nået.
Now, the objective of Erasmus — that by 1992 10 % of students should be completing all or part of their studies in a country other than their country of origin — is far from being attained.
I øjeblikket er det knap nok 1% af de studerende, der studerer uden for deres hjemland.
At present barely 1 % of students study outside their country of origin.
Denne procentsats falder yderligere, når der tages hensyn til, at statistikkerne medregner studerende, hvis forældre allerede bor i det pågældende værtsland.
This percentage decreases even more when one realizes that these statistics include students whose parents already live in the respective host country.
Endvidere må alle luxembourgere afslutte deres studier i udlandet, da Luxembourg ikke kan tilbyde komplette universitetsstudier.
Similarly, all Luxembourg students have to attend higher education courses abroad as the Grand Duchy does not have a full cycle of university courses.
Det er derfor på høje tid, at der lovgives og indføres faste regler på dette område.
So it is high time that we legislated and introduced regulations in the matter.
Faktisk er det helt absurd med alle midler at lette personers frie bevægelighed inden for Fællesskabet og samtidig nægte den intellektuelle elite, alle dem der i morgen dagens Europa skal indtage ledende stillinger, at nyde samme ret.
In fact it is absurd to facilitate free movement of persons in the Community by every means and to refuse it to an intellectual élite, to all those who will be called upon to occupy managerial posts in the Europe of the future.
Vi er altså glade for, at Kommissionen har gjort et nyt forsøg på at komme ud af blindgyden ved at foreslå regler for studerendes opholdsret. Vi har imidlertid anset det for nødvendigt at forbedre Kommissionens forslag på en række punkter, som vi synes er vigtige.
That is why we congratulate the Commission on its renewed efforts to break the deadlock and regulate the right of residence for students.
Jeg fandt det fornuftigt at medtage en definition af begrebet hjemland.
I personally thought it right to introduce an amendment relating to the definition of the State of origin.
I Kommissionens definition for stås ved hjemland det land, hvori den studerende havde fast bopæl, før den pågældende anmodede om opholdsret i en anden medlemsstat.
In fact, in the Commission's definition by 'Member State of origin' is understood the country where the student had his main residence before applying for the right of residence in another Member State.
Det forekommer mig utilstrækkeligt.
I do not think this is enough.
Lad os f.eks. tage en græker, der i tyve år har boet hos sine forældre i Grækenland, påbegynder sin uddannelse i Frankrig og fortsætter den i Belgien.
Let us take the case of a Greek who lived with his parents in Greece for twenty years, began his studies in France, spent a year there and is continuing his studies in Belgium.
I tilfælde af godtgørelse af socialforsorgens ydelser er det i henhold til Kommissionens definition Frankrig og ikke Grækenland, der skal betale, hvilket forekommer mig uretfærdigt.
In case of reimbursement of social security costs, under the Commission's definition, France and not Greece would have to pay, which seems to me unfair.
Hvis man på den anden side simpelthen definerer »hjemlandet« som den stat. hvori den pågældende er hjemmehørende, støder man også på uretfærdigheder.
From another angle, if 'the State of origin' were simply defined as the State which granted citizenship to the student, there are also injustices.
Jeg mener derfor, at den rette formulering bør være: Hjemland = fast bopælsland i ti sammen hængende år før anmodningen om opholdsret.
For example, a Portuguese who was born in Luxembourg, and lived there for twenty years, goes to study in Germany and becomes a burden on German social security.
Kommissionen har givet afkald på kravet om, at de studerende skal dokumentere, at de råder over tilstrækkelige midler til at sikre, at de ikke under deres ophold bliver til byrde for modtagerlandets socialforsorg.
Then Portugal would be responsible for the reimbursement and not Luxembourg, where his parents had paid their tax and insurance contributions.
Derfor må jeg henvise til min betænkning for Udvalget om Andragender af september 1987, hvori der på ny krævedes indført et europæisk studiekort, der giver den studerende, som naturligt nok kun råder over begrænsede pengemid-
So the correct formula for the definition seems to me to be this : 'the State of origin is the State of residence prior to application for right of residence' on condition that the applicant has lived there for a minimum of ten consecutive years.
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In all other cases, it is the State which
Jeg håber, at Kommissionen meget snart vil følge mig ad denne vej.
ESTGEN which might have negative effects on social security in certain countries.
kan overholdes, for så vidt angår afskaffelse af grænserne for fysiske personers bevægelser, og det forekommer mig derfor meget heldigt, at vi i hvert fald her har et konkret positivt eksempel på området. det.
The problem then arises of determining the appropriate level of resources to permit residence in a country other than one's own.
Formanden. — Mine damer og herrer, hr. F. Pisoni vil repræsenterer ordføreren for Udvalget om Sociale Anliggender, Beskæftigelse og Arbejdsmiljø, hr. Zeller. ler.
Without imposing excessively rigid criteria, it should be sufficient for disposable resources to be such as to sustain a decent life, in accordance with the ruling of the Court of Justice.
Ferruccio Pisoni (PPE). — (IT) Hr. formand, dette tredje direktiv går ud på at sikre retten til fri bevægelighed for borgerne i almindelighed.
has granted citizenship. In this respect, the decision of the Committee on Youth, Culture, Education, Information and Sport is clear and virtually unanimous, as it is on granting an equal right of residence to the spouse and the children of the marriage.
De for udgående direktiver var derimod meget nøjere begrænset til specielle grupper, idet de drejede sig dels om arbejdstagere, dels om selvstændige, dels om studerende, dels om pensionister og andre, der havde ophørt med erhvervsaktivitet.
The Committee on Youth, Culture, Education, Information and Sport was divided on the question of extending the notion of spouse to that of cohabiting partner. Finally, the majority adapted the formula 'to his or her spouse or current partner administratively or legally recognized either in the Member State of origin or in the recipient country'.
Udvalget om Økonomi, Valutaspørgsmål og Industripolitik har ikke stillet ændringsforslag til Kom missionens forslag, men nærer i lighed med Udvalget om Retlige Anliggender og Borgernes Rettigheder tvivl om det valgte retsgrundlag, der udelukker anvendelse af samarbejdsproceduren.
DE DONNEA (LDR), draftsman of the opinion of the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and Industrial Policy. — (FR) Mr President, the draft directives wich we are examining today are important because with them we take a significant step towards a People's Europe and the free movement of persons, which is one of the essential dimensions of the great market of 1993.
Vi ønsker faktisk det samme retsgrundlag for alle tre direktivforslag, så de alle tre kan gøres til genstand for den samme samarbejdsprocedure med Parlamentet.
We therefore hope — this is the wish of the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and Industrial Policy — that these directives can be adopted with the minimum delay by the Council, because this is actually one of the most important decisions to be taken as regards the mobility of citizens.
I betragtning ag dette direktivs betydning ønsker Udvalget om Økonomi, Valutaspørgsmål og Industripolitik ligeledes, at Kommissionen hvert andet år aflægger beretning til Europa-Parlamentet om direktivets gennemførelse.
We know, as from today, that the 1992 deadline for removing barriers to the movement of physical persons will not be respected, so it seems to me extremely fortunate that we have here at least one positive, concrete example on the subject.
Dette direktiv vil sikre borgerne i almindelighed opholdsret.
Mr President, I am aware that the present proposal for a directive only constitutes a first step in dealing with the administrative pettifogging to which our students are subjected.
Man kan faktisk ikke tænke sig et Europa, der forskelsbehandler sine egne borgere, idet det ikke tillader dem at flytte fra et land til et andet.
I hope the Commission will very soon follow me down that path.
Det er klart, at det må kræves, at borgerne råder over tilstrækkelige midler for at undgå, at der tilskyndes til en række vandringer, der også kan have uheldige virkninger for nogle landes velfærdssystem.
PRESIDENT. — Mr Pisoni is replacing Mr Zeiler, draftsman of the opinion of the Committee on Social Affairs, Employment and the Working Environment.
For det første bør direktiverne udformes, så de hindrer, at folk uden midler flytter udelukkende for at komme til at opholde sig i det land, der har den bedste socialforsorg.
In fact, we would like the same legal basis to be chosen for all three draft directives, and for all three to be dealt with under the same procedure of cooperation with Parliament.
Sådanne menneskers tilflytning vil medføre en ubillig byrde for værtslandets socialforsorg, der finansieres af de stedlige skatteydere. Sker det, kan det tilskynde til fremmedhadske reaktioner.
In view of the importance of this directive, the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and Industrial Policy also wishes the Commission to make a report to the European Parliament every two years on its operation.
Kom missionens forslag indeholder heldigvis bestemmel ser, der giver mulighed for at undgå, at personer, der udnytter opholdsretten, falder ind under værtslandets socialforsorg.
PISONI, Ferruccio (PPE). — (IT) Mr President, this third directive seeks to guarantee the right of free movement to all citizens.
Vi bør nægte at stemme for ændringsforslag, der gør disse bestemmelser virk ningsløse.
The preceding directive, on the other hand, was much more precise in terms of sectors, referring now to paid workers, now to selfemployed workers or students, pensioners or those who have otherwise ended their working cycle.
Vi kommer derfor til det problem at fastsætte, hvor mange midler man skal råde over for at kunne bosætte sig i et land, der ikke er ens eget.
This directive will ensure that citizens in general have a right of residence.
Man kan ikke fastsætte urimelige kriterier, det må være nok at have sådanne midler, at det muliggør en værdig eksistens, som det blev udtrykt i den italien ske Forfatningsdomstols dom. Jeg mener derfor, at Kommissionens tekst må kunne accepteres.
It should thus make possible freedom of movement, as we conceive of it, with a view to a People's Europe.
For det andet må indførelse af generaliseret opholdsret for alle EF-statsborgere ikke medføre, at visse statsborgere fra tredjelande kan omgå reglerne for adgang til medlemsstaterne og for opholdsret for statsborgere fra tredjelande.
Freedom of movement is also directly connected with the formulation of the Single Act, which provides for an area in which everyone can choose their own place of residence, according to their resources, but also according to their attitudes and aspirations.
Ud fra dette synspunkt åbner nogle af de til Kommissionens forslag om definition af de familiemedlemmer, der automatisk får opholdsret, stillede ændringsforslag muligheder for omfattende misbrug.
It is obvious that citizens must have adequate resources or there could be an incentive to a series of migrations
De Donnea (LDR), ordfører for udtalelsen fra Udvalget om Økonomi, Valutaspørgsmål og Industripolitik. — (FR) Hr. formand, de direktivforslag, vi behandler i dag, er vigtige, fordi de udgør et væsentligt skridt hen imod Borgernes Europa og personers frie bevægelighed, som er en af de vigtigste dimensioner ved det store marked i 1993.
Having said that, I would like to make several comments on a personal level. I think that the three directives with which we are concerned need to avoid two snags which could arouse opposition from a section of the European electorate to the most legitimate aspects of a generalized right of residence.
Det er derfor ønskeligt — og det ønsker da også Udvalget om Økonomi, Valutaspørgsmål og Industripolitik — at disse direktiver hurtigst muligt vedtages af Rådet, idet det faktisk drejer sig om en af de første betydelige beslutninger i forbindelse med borgernes frie bevægelighed.
First, the directives must be framed in such a way as to prevent the movement of persons without resources and whose only aim is to find the country of residence which has the best social security system. The movement of such people would impose an unfair burden on the host country's social security system which is financed by local contributions.
Vi ved allerede nu, at tidsfristen 1992 ikke
Such a phenomenon could encourage a xenophobic reaction.
Når det er sagt, hr. formand, håber jeg, at Rådet hurtigt kan træffe beslutning om gennemførelse af de tre direktiver uden ændringsforslag, der svækker deres rækkevidde.
Fortunately the Commission's drafts contain provisions which would prevent people who are exercising their right of residence from being a burden on social security in the recipient country.
De Donnea uden hvilket der ikke bliver nogen virkelig euro pæisk union.
DE DONNEA must refuse to vote for amendments which would void these provisions of their substance.
Takket være hr. Van Outrives mesterhånd er det lykkedes disse tre udvalg at komme på linie med hinanden, hvilket ikke var nemt.
or that couples will be forced to separate, or even to seek the right of residence on different grounds so that they can eventually be reunited in the same country.
De skal have hjertelig tak for det.
None of this seems healthy to me.
Vayssade (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, hr. kommissær, jeg kan huske, at samme debat for otte eller ni år siden fandt sted her i denne sal.
JANSSEN VAN RAAY (PPE). — (NL) Mr President, first of all I should like to congratulate Mr Van Outrive on his outstanding piece of work.
Allerede dengang anbefalede vi — og Den Socialistiske Gruppe gjorde en stor indsats derfor — en forbedring af den almindelige opholdsret inden for Fællesskabet.
For tactical reasons the Commission split the proposal up into three directives, with the result that it was referred to three different committees.
Jeg håber, at vi denne gang har de forslag, der skal til for at komme til et resultat, og måske var det nødvendigt at opdele dem for at nå frem til en løsning.
They do in fact constitute an important step towards the construction of a People's Europe, and without that there will never be real European Union.
Det er jeg personlig lidt ked af, for jeg mener, at opholdsretten principielt burde være gældende for alle EF-borgere, uden at det er nødvendigt først at fastslå, om den pågældende tilhører den ene eller anden samfunds- eller indtægtsgruppe.
VAYSSADE (S). — (FR) Mr President, Mr Com missioner, I remember having the same debate in the same Hémicycle eight or nine years ago when we were already arguing for this general right of residence in the Community and the Socialist Group had already put a lot of effort into pressing for it.
Der er to vigtige ting.
There are two important points.
Den første er retsgrundlaget.
The first is the legal basis.
Også jeg anmoder kommissær Bangemann om at gøre dette grundlag ensartet.
I also call on Commissioner Bangemann to opt for a single legal basis.
Sker det ikke, så vil vi følge Stauffenberg/Van Outrive-strategien og sige, at så har vi kun én behandling.
If he does not, we will follow Mr von Stauffenberg and Mr Van Outrive's advice and say there will be just one reading.
Hvis der skal være logik i Parlamentets arbejde, er det da bedre, at denne ene behandling af direktivet finder sted samtidig med, at vi kender Rådets fælles holdning til de to andre direktiver, således at vi i det mindste kan sørge for, at vor terminologi så vidt mulig bliver enslydende.
To ensure that Parliament is consistent, it would be better to take the single reading of the one directive once we know the Council's common position on the other two, so that we can at least make sure our terminology is as consistent as possible.
Det er den eneste grund: der må være en sammenhængende linie i Parlamentet, således at vi ikke gør et sjusket indtryk ved i første instans at fremlægge noget, som så bagefter bliver indhentet af den fælles holdning.
That is the only reason: consistency in our views, so that we do not make an unprofessional impression by producing an opinion at the first reading that is then overtaken by the common position.
Kort og godt, hvis retsgrundlaget for de tre direktiver bliver det samme, så kan vi erklære os enige, og så kan vi også stemme.
In short, if the legal basis is standardized, we will immediately cooperate and we can take a vote.
Er dette ikke tilfældet, så er det — også med henblik på vor egen troværdighed — bedre at vente med direktiv 3, indtil vi kender den fælles holdning.
If it is not, it would be better for our credibility to hold the third directive back until we know what the common positions are.
Vi er indforstået med, at de tre forslag bør have det samme retsgrundlag.
I hope this time we have got the texts which will allow us to achieve the objective, and perhaps it was necessary to divide in order to reach a solution.
Da der er tale om de samme problemer, de samme mekanismer og de samme krav, mener vi, at det er vigtigt, at vi om alle disse tekster kan samarbejde med Rådet og altså få mulighed for en andenbehandling om det generelle direktiv.
Personally, I regret it a little because I think that this principle of right of residence should apply to every citizen of the Com munity without it being necessary to define a priori that he belongs to this or that sociological category or income group.
Det andet vigtige punkt vedrører begrebet familie.
The second important point concerns the definition of the family.