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Efter omstændighederne og på dette sene stadium mener jeg ikke, at man skal gå imod den fælles holdning.
However, I think that the Commission is underestimating economic fundamentalism in certain areas.
Konfrontationsmetoder løser ikke problemer, og det kan ske, at taberen vil være institutioner inden for Fællesskabet på grund af nogle af De Forenede Staters og nogle af de japan ske bankers generelle finansielle vægt.
We are underestimating this in the same way we underestimated, for example, the fundamentalism of Iranian society — although I in no way wish to make a comparison.
Selvfølgelig siger Kommissionen, at det nok skal komme på et eller andet tidspunkt.
I am one of those people who thinks that the level of opening which we decide on must take into account that of our partners and that any concession, whether in terms of trade or tariffs, must only be made subject to a minimum of reciprocity.
På et eller andet tidspunkt kommer også vi til den erkendelse, at det er den rigtige måde for os at omgås på.
I heard colleagues from the European Democratic Group saying, 'but what about our consumers ?'
Men jeg tror, at Kommissionen på mange områder undervurderer den økonomiske fundamentalisme.
Don't forget, ladies and gentlemen, that the consumers are also sometimes workers and that they are worried about their jobs.
Den under vurderer vi, præcis som vi f.eks. tidligere undervurderede det iranske systems fundamentalisme, som jeg dog på ingen måde vil sammenligne dermed.
Don't forget that they are also citizens and that they are worried about the independence of our Community, which must not find itself being unilaterally disarmed in a particular sector of activity.
I det store og hele er jeg enig i forslagene, men mener ikke, vi skal have konfrontationsaspekter i ændringsforslagene.
The common position as it stands is really not acceptable and I would urge the Commission to revert to its original proposal.
Jeg vil absolut stemme imod den del af det.
Unless it does so, we cannot support the common position.
Rothley (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, der består overhovedet ingen tvivl om, at dette direktiv hører til de for det indre markeds gennemførelse centrale direktiver.
JANSSEN VAN RAAY (PPE). — (NL) Mr President, I will add my voice to that of my colleague from the Socialist Group, Mr Rothley, by continuing at the point where he had to interrupt his speech prematurely, in order to say that in my opinion — and I am delighted to see Mr Bangemann sitting here again — this is actually the third time that we have adopted a sensible position from the Commission which the Commission has now, alas, abandoned.
Det nuværende forslag i den fælles holdning er virkelig utilstrækkeligt, og jeg anmoder indstændigt Kommissionen om at vende tilbage til sit oprindelige standpunkt.
However I can also tell you that it is an unreal debate since in spite of the liberal discussion surrounding many of the statements today on trade, financial and world problems, as we know, the reality is entirely different.
Skulle det ikke være tilfældet, kan vi ikke tilslutte os den fælles holdning.
The reality of the market is not pure and perfect as theoreticians would like it to be, but a
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Glem ikke, at de også er borgere, og at de er interesserede i, at Fællesskabet er uafhængigt og ikke ensidigt gøres forsvarsløst inden for den ene eller anden sektor.
FUCHS reality of power struggles either between States or between large undertakings.
Man kan så diskutere, om Fællesskabet skal liberalisere uden forbehold eller uden gensidighed.
can achieve the final stage of monetary integration, we are in a much stronger position than the United States.
Man kan diskutere på grundlag af økonomiske teorier — jeg er selv uddannet som økonomom — det er en interessant diskussion.
Europe saves more than the United States and the United States suffers from a crippling disadvantage in banking matters: it has no federal legislation.
Men jeg kan samtidig fortælle Dem, at det er en diskussion uden realitet, for til trods for den liberale tale, der høres i mange af dagens udtalelser vedrørende verdens handels- og finansproblemer, så er situationens realitet som bekendt en ganske anden.
In other words, its financial market will be less integrated than ours and, since on the international scene countries are liberal where they are strongest and protectionist where they are weakest, it is important not to mix up the sectors.
Kære kolleger, jeg vil tro, at alle de tilstedeværende kender vor klodes »markedsordninger« for tekstil eller stål.
Ladies and 'gentlemen, I should imagine that everyone here knows about the organization of the textile market or the steel market on our planet.
Alle er bekendt med den konfrontation, der foregår mellem de store amerikanske, japanske og europæiske telekommunikationsvirksomheder, mellem »de store« inden for råstoffer, mellem Boeing og Airbus Industrie.
Everyone knows about the confrontations between the big American, Japanese and European telecommunication concerns, between the 'majors' in the raw materials sector, between Boeing and Airbus Industrie.
Jeg vil også tro, at alle har hørt tale om forhandlingerne mellem De For enede Stater og Japan med henblik på reduktion af den amerikanske handelsuligevægt, og alle — forhåbentlig da — foruroliges over disse forhandlingers eventuelle negative virkninger for Fællesskabet.
I suppose everyone has also heard the talk about negotiations between the United States and Japan with the aim of reducing the American trade imbalance and everyone is worried — or at least I hope they are — about the possible negative repercussions of these negotiations on the Community.
Janssen van Raay (PPE). — (NL) Hr. formand, i samklang med min kollega Rothley fra socialisterne fortsætter jeg der, hvor han for tidligt måtte standse, nemlig på det punkt — og til min store fornøjelse ser jeg, at kommissær Bangemann sidder her igen — at vi rent faktisk, for mit vedkommende for tredje gang, overtager et fornuftigt kommissionsstandpunkt, som Kommissionen desværre i mellemtiden har opgivet igen.
Europe has some amazing assets — it should use them. If we are not over — cautious in the sphere of monetary integration we shall be the financial power of the world and that is why we must take certain facts into account and in particular we must not impose conditions which are constitutionally impossible.
Vi har endog — og hr. Bangemann vil kunne huske, at jeg allerede nævnte det forrige gang — tabt en sag af den grund for Domstolen, fordi Parlamentet indtog et standpunkt, der var mere fordelagtigt for Kommissionen end det stand punkt, som Kommissionen selv tog.
Those of us who formed part of the delegation for relations with the United States are well aware that whilst making a formal and literal request for reciprocity, even with the best will in the world, the United States will never be able to give it us.
Det gør vi ganske ret i.
Why not ?
Vi står over for bestemte principper og filosofier. Det, vi især som Parlament får i den gale hals, er, at vi jo netop ikke ønsker nogen protektionisme.
Because what is possible for an American bank set up in Europe is not possible for an American bank in the United States.
Jeg kan godt forstå, at Rådet støder på visse problemer. Det berømteste eksempel er naturligvis, at banklovene i De Forenede Stater mærkværdigvis kun tillader én bank pr. stat.
In fact, when you have set up a business in New York, you cannot then set up a subsidiary in California without going through a series of formalities and being subject to the legislation of the State of California.
De kommer sandsynligvis ud i problemer, hvis man går for vidt med dette.
The United States is therefore in a position which, constitutionally, does not allow it to give us the reciprocity we are demanding.
Så vil nogle måske sige, at jeg taler om industrien, medens dagens emne er finanserne.
Some people will say, you are talking about industry when the subject today is finance.
Men i øjeblikket går udviklingen hen imod en verden, hvori den essentielle del af handelen falder på tjenesteydelserne, især de finansielle, og hvori handelsbalancens betydning vil mindskes til fordel for betalingsbalancens.
But at the moment we are moving towards a world where the main trade is going to be in the exchange of services, especially financial services, and where the importance of the trade balance is going to decrease in favour of the importance of the balance of current payments.
Nogle lande, heriblandt De Forenede Stater, ser ud til at have forstået det før andre og også før Fællesskabet, er jeg bange for.
Some countries, including the United States, seem to have understood this before others, and, I fear, before the Community.
De lægger nu hoved vægten på liberalisering af tjenesteydelser i højere grad end på liberalisering af varesamhandel.
They are now emphasizing the liberalization of the movement of services rather than the liberalization of the movement of goods.
Det er det pres, der nu udøves på os under GATT-forhandlingerne. Lad os, som flere talere har sagt før mig, forstå at øve den fornødne modstand.
This is the sort of pressure which is being put on us now in the GATT negotiations.
Men det, der betyder noget for os, er, at vi holder fast ved gensidigheden.
Now you will try and tell me that the United States could change its constitution !
Vi forventer, at Kommis sionen fortsat vil kæmpe for det, og at den fortsat vil føre en konsekvent politik på dette område.
But if I have understood the Commission correctly, there the Parliament has raised a real problem. The Commission has undertaken to provide a solution.
Derfor gav vi i Retsudvalget vor ordfører en kraftig opbakning, da han har udtrykt det, vi alle ønsker.
The problem is as follows : should we delay adopting this urgent directive, bearing in mind the time-limits ?
Jeg vil indtrængende anmode hr. Bangemann om at videre give dette til sin kollega Sir Leon Brittan og at tage disse følelser i Parlamentet au sérieux.
In that case, there is a fundamental difference between the drawback which some of you have emphasized and which can be corrected, and those which would result if the main directive were rejected or delayed.
Fuchs (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, også jeg vil gerne fremsætte et par bemærkninger til gensidighedsbegrebet.
As I have already had the opportunity to say, I fully support the position of the President of the Commission, Jacques Delors, when he said : 'Yes to an open Europe, no to a Europe which is given away at any price'.
Jeg tilhører Dem, der mener, at den grad af liberalisering vi beslutter, skal tage hensyn til vore samhandelspartneres liberalisering, og at enhver handelseller tarifmæssig indrømmelse kun bør gøres med forbehold af et mindstemål af gensidighed.
That is why I cannot support the conclusions of my colleagues, unless, of course, the assurances which the Commission gives them will manage to overcome their reservations.
Jeg hørte kolleger fra Den Europæiske Demokratiske Gruppe sige: »Men hvad med forbrugerne?« Glem ikke, kære kolleger, at forbrugerne også kan være arbej
HERMAN (PPE). — (FR) Mr President, without wanting to repeat what my colleagues have said, I should like to concentrate on two points: reciprocity and subsidiaries.
Som jeg allerede har sagt, tilslutter jeg mig helt og fuldt kommissionsformandens holdning, når han siger, at Europa skal være åbent, men ikke kastes i grams.
The fact is that in banking matters, especially as our market becomes more integrated and especially if we
Jeg tror faktisk, at det er det valg, vi i dag står overfor.
BANGEMANN, Vicepresident of the Commission. — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen !
Derfor mener jeg også, at vi bør støtte ændringsforslagene til artikel 9 i Rådets fælles hold ning med henblik på styrkelse af det netop omtalte krav om gensidighed.
I would like to begin by apologizing for the fact that I am representing the Commission, since the change in the agenda has unfortunately prevented my colleague Sir Leon Brittan from being here today.
Som hr. Medina sagde før på
I am afraid you will have to put up with me.
Den Socialistiske Gruppes vegne, skal vi som Parlament være rede til at drage alle konsekvenserne af en eventuel forkastelse af disse ændringsforslag.
BANGEMANN negotiation, the Commission must, as a final solution, have the power to take appropriate measures to limit the right of third country banks to set up new branches in the Community if Community banks are not given proper access to the market in third countries, contrary to internationally accepted standards.
Til den tid bliver der er en grund læggende forskel mellem den af nogle medlemmer nævnte ulempe, som kan afhjælpes, og de ulemper, der bliver følgen af en forkastelse eller forsinkelse af hoveddirektivet.
I should perhaps mention that a large number of these amendments can be found in the common position, as the rapporteur was kind enough to point out.
Herman (PPE). — (FR) Hr. formand, uden at gentage det, mine kolleger har sagt, vil jeg gerne opholde mig ved to punkter : Gensidighed og filialer.
It is therefore untrue that the Commission or the Council are totally inflexible on these matters.
Det er derfor, at jeg ikke kan tilslutte mig kolleger nes konklusioner, med mindre Kommissionens garantier har held til at bringe alle deres forbehold til ophør.
It is also correct, as Mr Rothley has pointed out, that certain undoubtedly important amendments are no longer to be found in the common position, or only in radically altered form.
For det første gensidighedsspørgsmålet. Hr. Fuchs sagde med rette, at vi ikke skal være naive, og at vi i en verden, der ikke er den rene konkurrences, må råde over de fornødne midler til at kunne forsvare vore egne interesser.
I intend to refer to this point later in detail.
Da Sir Leon under den første debat for otte måneder siden drøftede de forskellige ændringsforslag med Dem, var situationen naturligvis endnu helt åben. Det bør måske nævnes, at en stor del af disse ændringsforslag er med i den fælles holdning.
However, I would remind you that Sir Leon made the following point during the first reading : 'Provided the essential features are maintained the Commission is ready to consider some changes to make the procedures in article 7 more flexible and less bureaucratic.'
Man kan altså ikke sige, at Kommissionen eller Rådet er forblevet helt uimodtagelig for disse forslag.
I would like to make it quite clear that neither the Commission nor the Council have abandoned the principle of reciprocity in the common position, as some speakers have asserted.
Som hr. Rothley så rigtigt sagde, er det sikkert korrekt, at nogle givetvis yderst vigtige ændringsforslag nu enten ikke er til at finde i den fælles holdning eller kun i stærkt ændret form.
The point is that the original procedures proposed by Lord Cockfield which Parliament wishes to reinstate with amendments no 2 and no 3 were too bureaucratic for almost all Member States.
Europa har utroligt gode kort på hånden og bør spille dem rigtigt.
This is exactly the situation we are in now.
Hvis vi ikke nøler alt for længe på den monetære integrations område, bliver vi verdens ledende finansmagt, og derfor skal vi tage hensyn til en række realiteter, og især passe på ikke at stille krav, der er forfatningsmæssigt uigennemførlige.
If we do not adopt this directive it would not only mean that a major step foward towards the internal market is held up and that there is a threat to economic and monetary union, but we would also end up with a different situation in each individual Member States and for each third country bank.
Alle de af os, der har været medlemmer af Delegationen for Forbindelser med De Forenede Stater, ved, at De Forenede Stater selv med verdens bedste vilje ikke kan indrømme os gensidighed, hvis vi forlanger den formelt og bogstaveligt.
Precisely what you were hoping to achieve would then become impossible, there would be not reciprocity at all !
Hvorfor ikke?
The market is open to all, just as it is now.
New York kan ikke uden videre oprette en filial i California uden at skulle igennem en række formaliteter og uden at underkaste sig californisk lov.
Mr President, I trust these remarks are covered by a Commissioner's immunity, as I have ventured into the realms of politics.
Så vil De måske sige, at De Forenede Stater kan ændre deres forfatning!
We have to work together somehow and I feel that he demonstrated the Commission's open attitude to Parliament's valid requests.
God fornøjelse; prøv, men det bliver ikke nemt, når man kender amerikanernes politiske sædvaner og traditioner.
He pointed out the principles under which certain amendments could be accepted, the necessity for which always arises during the course of discussions with the Council.
Det drejer sig altså ikke om, det vil jeg gerne sige med stor tydelighed, at Kom missionen eller Rådet i den fælles holdning har opgivet gensidighedsprincippet, som påstået af nogle talere, men derimod om, at den oprindelige af lord Cockfield foreslåede procedure, som Parlamentet med sine ændringsforslag nr. 2 og 3 ønsker at retablere, faktisk forekom dem at være, hvordan skal jeg sige, for liberal eller frihandelsbetonet, men den forekom dem ret og slet at være for bureaukratisk — for øvrigt også nogle vigtige tredjelande, med hvilke vi opretholder fornuftige forbindelser, og som vi fra tid til anden også burde lytte til.
We have made the concept of reciprocity clearer and the common position is precisely in line with the Commission criteria I quoted earlier: the Commission will be regularly informed of requests by foreign banks to set up new branches in the Community; we will be able to make regular checks on whether Community credit in stituions have effective access to third country markets ; we can enter into negotiations with third countries to improve the access for Community banks and we can make use of our implementing powers to prevent third country banks from setting up new branches in the Community if these third countries deny European banks equal treatment and effective market access.
Det andet spørgsmål er filialerne. Men her har Parlamentet, hvis jeg da ellers har forstået Kommis sionen rigtigt, rejst et virkeligt problem. Kommis sionen har lovet at løse det.
I quote : first of all the Commission must be in a position to check on 'a regular basis whether Community credit institutions have effective access to the market in third countries.
Det afgørende punkt, hvorom det drejer sig, er ikke spørgsmålet, om vi ønsker gensidighed eller ej, men
This is not handing over the Community to these third countries on a plate ! We have merely made it clear what
Bangemann om hvordan den proceduremæssigt tager sig ud, og hvordan den skal fungere.
BANGEMANN something that is considerably worse than what could be achieved if we get the common position through.
Det er overhovedet ikke tilfældet!
The Commission has plenty of scope for action and we intend to exploit this.
På en enkelt undtagelse nær svarer også de af lord Cockfield i forhold til det oprindelige kommissions forslag foretagne ændringer til de principper, som Sir Leon Brittan redegjorde for under førstebehandlingen på plenarmødet den 13. marts.
Let us take the example of America. As Mr Herman pointed out, the situation is more difficult than in other contries, as different states of the USA have different regulations with the result that not all American banks can be dealt with in the same way.
Vi skal samarbejde på en eller anden måde, og efter min mening har han vist Kommissionens store åbenhed for Par lamentets berettigede krav.
Let us take the example of a Californian bank A bank always has a head office somewhere and this is clearly defined in the directive so that it is always possible to refer a branch office back to its head office.
Han sagde nemlig, efter hvilke principper vi selv kan acceptere visse ændringer, som altid bliver nødvendige under forhandlingerne med Rådet.
If this is in California and if California either prevents European banks from setting up, or only allows them to operate under certain conditions, then these conditions will apply to this bank in the Community in future too.
Jeg citerer : For det første skal Kommissionen være i stand til regelmæssigt at kontrollere, om Fællesskabets pengeinstitutter reelt får adgang til tredjelandes markeder.
There is time for this, as foreign banks are not granted the right once and for all to set up in business, ie. they do not have the right to set up branches wherever they choose, nor do they have the freedom to provide crossfrontier services, so that their branches do not have the same rights as the branches of a European bank.
Dernæst skal Kommissionen være i stand til og være indstillet på at foreslå Rådet optagelse af forhandlinger med tredjelande for i påkommende tilfælde at opnå forbedret adgang til de pågældende markeder.
They do not have the same legal status and up to now no one has objected to this, as they are allowed to set up in business, simply under different conditions.
Lad os så gennemgå ændringsforslagene enkeltvis.
In other words, we have complete freedom of action.
Artikel 7's oprindelige udformning er ændret for at gøre proceduren mere fleksibel og mindre bureaukratisk.
This in no way sacrifices the Community's position and it has been defined such that it will be accepted anywhere in the world.
Hvad ønsker De mere, mine damer og herrer?
We have always taken the view that a certain level of endowment capital is necessary.
På denne måde udleverer vi da ikke Fællesskabet til disse tredjelande!
This applies in particular to solvency and capital endowment.
Vi har blot sagt, hvad gensidighed betyder, nemlig det, som man i international han delsret kalder national treatment.
I feel we should omit this, particularly in view of the approaching round of GATT talks.
Hr. De Clercq spurgte, hvad det har med Uruguay-Runden at gøre.
Finally I come to amendments nos 1 and 5 which are concerned with the committee procedure.
Når vi definerer et vigtigt begreb som gensidighed så liberalt som national treatment, så sætter vi os allerede nu under disse forhandlinger i et meget godt lys i forhold til de tredjelande, der ikke viser samme åbenhed.
As I have already said we appreciate Parliament's thinking as reflected in these amendments and we would also have nothing against strengthening the Commission's implementing powers, but the problem is, as always, what the result in Council will be.
Det erklærede Sir Leon under førstebehandlingen.
Please ignore the false parallels cited in the debate.
Det er så at sige den linje, som vi ikke ønsker at fjerne os fra.
Mr Fuchs mentioned Airbus and the textile agreement.
Selvfølgelig skal vi selv være fleksible i proceduren, da der ellers ikke bliver nogen fælles holdning, henholdsvis overhovedet ingen mulighed for at få Rådet til at vedtage direktivet.
I do not wish to go into further details as these areas certainly require more careful handling than banks who wish to set up in Europe, but I would like to say this: these were not shining examples of the Community's free trade policy.
Det beklager også vi, og vi er selvfølgelig yderst villige til i komitologien — det kommer jeg tilbage til i enkelt heder — at overtage Parlamentets ændringsforslag.
Here we are not in the front ranks of those campaigning for free trade.
Der er kvinder, der gifter sig med en mand, der ikke er helt så flot og så rig, som de havde ønsket sig.
The percentage of the European gross national product which is exported is the largest in the world and we would do ourselves ill service if we were to deviate even a centimeter from our thoroughly sensible position on free trade.
Men når de først forestiller sig, slet ikke at være gift, så siger de: Så hellere ham!
You should consider this when you are voting on amendments nos 2 and 3.
Det er netop den situation, som vi nu alle befinder os i.
I can tell you now that the Commission will not accept these amendments.