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Når et flertal i min gruppe plæderer for en genoprettelse af Det Blandede Parlamentariske Udvalg EØF/Tyrkiet, sker dette navnlig, fordi vi mener, at den påtrængende nødvendige dialog med det tyrkiske parlament kan indledes, men også skal indledes som led i dette udvalgs parlamentariske arbejde.
The majority of my group favours the reinstate ment of the Joint Parliamentary EEC-Turkey Com mittee, because we believe that the urgent dialogue with the Turkish Parliament can and must be got under way through the parliamentary work of this committee.
Derfor glæder vi os navnlig over for muleringen i punkt 24 i Walter-beslutningsforslaget, hvori det hedder: »Europa-Parlamentet går som et første skridt ind for, at dets Delegation for Forbindelserne med Tyrkiet optager drøftelser med repræsentanter for Den Store Tyrkiske Nationalforsamling med henblik på genoprettelse af Det Blandede Parlamentariske Udvalg«.
That is why we particularly welcome the wording of paragraph 24 of Mr Walter's motion for a resolution, and I quote: 'The European Parliament approves as a first step talks between its Delegation for Relations with Turkey with representatives of the Turkish Grand National Assembly with a view to reconvening the EEC-Turkey Joint Parliamentary Committee'.
Vi ser imidlertid i dette organ også et hjælpemiddel til at støtte de frie demokratiske kræfter i Tyrkiet, som arbejder for menneskerettighedernes overholdelse, fagforeningsfrihed, pressefrihed, en strafferetsreform og en fuldstændig normalisering af demokratiet.
We view this body as a means of supporting the free and democratic forces in Turkey which fight for res pect for human rights, freedom of the trades unions, freedom of the press, penal reform and for a complete return to democracy.
Der er nu gået 8 år siden kuppet i 1980, og uhyrlighederne i diktaturets første år en dæmpet til en vis grad.
Mr Walter's report and motion for a resolution, which got a large majority in the Pol itical Affairs Committee, is characterized by its political sensitivity, essential practical criticism and political reality in its description of the relationship between the European Community and Turkey.
Tzounis rettelserne er blevet begrænset. Forfølgelserne af de demokratiske borgere holdes nede uden at være standset helt.
Tzounis suffering Cyprus, it can be said that Turkey is making an effort to improve its image in the eyes of Europe.
Tyrkiet har nu en valgt regering, og som vi ved fra vor dele gations besøg, vækker det pågældende valgs beskaffenhed formentlig betydelig misundelse i mindst to tredjedele af landene i verden, ikke mindst i de lande, som kalder sig selv folkedemokratier.
an elected government and, as we know from the visit of our own delegation, the nature of that election would, I suspect, have given rise to considerable envy in at least two-thirds of the countries of the world, not least in those countries that call themselves people's democracies.
Det er således helt i orden, at vi peger fingre ad det tyrkiske demokrati, men vi må huske de omstændigheder, hvorunder demokratiets genindførelse finder sted.
So for us to point the finger at Turkish democracy is all very well, but we must remember the circumstances under which the restoration of democracy is taking place.
Denne situation erkendes i hr. Walters velafbalancerede betænkning, som foreslår genetableringen af associeringsudvalget med den begrundelse, at det her igennem vil være nemmere at øve indflydelse på situationen og præge den i den rigtige retning samt nå til bunds i den reelle demokratiseringsproces i lan det.
Mr Walter's report acknowledges this fact and recommends the reactivation of the Joint Parliamentary Committee on the basis that doing so will make it easier to influence the situation for the better and to speed up the process of real democratization in Turkey. key.
På nuværende tidspunkt anerkender Det Europæiske Folkeparti denne begrundelses rigtighed og vil stem me for betænkningen, navnlig efter vedtagelsen af ændringsforslag, som det har stillet, og som sigter mod at fremhæve de svagheder, som stadig findes i Tyrkiet, samt metoderne til fjernelse af disse.
For the present the EPP concurs with this analysis and will give its support to the report, particularly now that certain of its amendments which focus on the continuing deficiencies in Turkey and the means of rectifying them have been adopted.
Nielsen, Brøndlund (LDR). — Fru formand, det må høre under Forretningsordenen, at medlemmerne er i stand til at komme uhindret til stede, og jeg vil gerne beklage mig over, at dette knap nok er tilfældet.
NIELSEN, Brøndlund (LDR). — (DA) Madam President, it must be implicit in the Rules of Procedure that Members should be able to get here unhindered. I wish to protest over the fact that this is not really the case.
De fremskridt, der gøres, berettiger os til at tro tyr kerne på deres ord, når de fortæller os, at de har til hensigt snarest muligt at genindføre alle demokrati ske frihedsrettigheder.
The progress that is being made entitles us to take the Turks at their word when they tell us that they intend to restore as soon as possible the full range of democratic freedoms.
På samme måde må vi. selv om vi måske beklager nogle af de metoder, der er blevet anvendt, erkende, at den tyrkiske regering er ansvarlig for sin egen indre sikkerhed, og i betragtning af de centrifugale tendenser i det tyrkiske sam fund og de alvorlige pres, den er udsat for ved landets sydlige grænser, er det kun rigtigt at erkende, at den tyrkiske regering sandsynligvis bedst kan gore dette.
In the same way, although we may deplore some of the methods that have been used, we must recognize that the Turkish Government is res ponsible for its own internal security. Given the centrifugal tendencies within Turkish society and the grave pressure to which they are subject on their southern borders, it is only right to recognize that the Turkish Government are probably the best judges of how to achieve this.
Af denne årsag mener vi, at punkt 9 og 10 i Walterbetænkningen måske kan gøres lidt mildere.
For that reason we think that paragraphs 9 and 10 of the Walter report could perhaps be softened. tened.
Vi mener, det er på høje tid, at dialogen mellem Europa-Parlamentet og Den Store Tyrkiske National forsamling genoptages, og vi glæder os over Walter betænkningen og yder vor tribut til den meget retfærdige måde, hvorpå ordføreren har klaret denne van skelige opgave.
We believe that it is high time for the dialogue between the European Parliament and the Turkish National Assembly to resume and we welcome the Walter report and pay tribute to the very fair-minded way in which the rapporteur has tackled this difficult task.
Jeg har konstateret, at der ved indgangen til IPE-byg-ningen er kompetent kontrol, mens det ikke er tilfældet andre steder.
I have noted that there is competent security surveillance at the entrance to the IPE building, but that is not the case elsewhere.
Jeg har f. eks. lige været udsat for, at det på sjette sal i medlemmernes bygning er svært at få lov at passere uhindret.
For example, I have just found out how difficult it is to pass unhindered on the sixth floor of the Members' building.
Det finder jeg ikke rimeligt, og jeg vil gerne henstille til Præsidiet at sørge for, at der ikke lukkes folk ind i i huset, som medfører, at vi ikke selv er i stand til at færdes uhindret.
I do not think that is reasonable, and I want to ask the Bureau to ensure that people are not shut up inside the building, which means that we ourselves are not free to move around unhindered.
Det er selvfølgelig muligt, at man har villet beskytte mig imod en terrorist, der befandt sig i et mødelokale deroppe, men i så fald burde vedkommende ikke have været indladt.
It is, of course, possible that they wanted to protect me from a terrorist who happened to be in a meeting room up there, but if such were the case the person in question should not have been let in.
Jeg kender ikke årsagerne, men ved godt, at der er en gæst i huset, der kræver sikker hedsforanstaltninger.
I do not know the explanation, though I am well aware that there is a visitor in the House who needs special protection.
Men det må være rimeligt, at vi medlemmer kan udføre vort arbejde, og at der ikke er uforskammet og inkompetent kontrol rundt omkring, der lægger os hindringer i vejen.
But it is reasonable for us Members to be free to carry out our work and not to be hindered by disgraceful and incompetent security arrangements.
Det henstiller jeg meget til Præsidiet at sørge for.
I urgently request action of the part of the Bureau to ensure this.
Formanden. — Hr. Nielsen, jeg skal straks forelægge Deres bemærkninger for Præsidiet.
PRESIDENT. — Mr Nielsen, I shall convey your proposal to the Bureau without delay.
Må jeg afslutte med en personlig bemærkning.
May I end on a personal note.
Min 22-årige datter tilbragte det meste af sommeren med at rejse rundt i Tyrkiet med rygsæk. Hun var helt alene.
My 22-year-old daughter spent most of the summer touring around Turkey with her knapsack on her back.
Da hun kom hjem igen, fortalte hun mig. at hun var blevet medtaget med høflighed, hjælpsomhed og naturlig charme af det tyrkiske folk overalt, hvor hun tog hen.
When she got back, she told me that she had been received with courtesy, helpfulness and charm by Turkish people wherever she went.
Hun sagde også, at hun følte sig en hel del mindre udsat dér, end hun ville have gjort i mange af storbyerne i Europa, storbyer, som har alle demokratiske rettigheder.
She also said that she felt a lot less threatened there than she would have done in many of the big cities of Europe, big cities that enjoy full democratic rights.
I denne ånd mener jeg. at det er på høje tid, at vi tilbyder det tyrkiske folk vort fulde venskab, ønsker dem alt vel og gennem en fuld genoptagelse af vor dialog med dem viser dem. at vi værdsætter og respekterer den måde. de er ved at omstrukturere og genopbygge deres land på.
In that spirit I think that it is high time we extended the full hand of friendship to the Turkish people, wished them well and, by resuming the full range of our dialogue with them, showed them that we honour and respect the way in which they are reconstructing and rebuilding their country.
Welsh (ED). — (EN) Fru formand, vi må alle have alvorlige og begrundede tvivl om det tyrkiske demokratis præcise status, navnlig med hensyn til tale- og ytringsfrihed og også politisk organisation.
WELSH (ED). — Madam President, all of us must have serious and obvious doubts about the precise status of Turkish democracy, particularly as regards free dom of speech and expression and, indeed, of political organization.
Som en følge heraf kan situationen dér ikke på nogen måde betegnes som tilfredsstillende.
Consequently, the situation there can by no means be termed satisfactory.
Samtidig må vi erindre de omstændigheder, hvorunder militærregeringen overtog magten i Tyrkiet: den
At the same time we must recall the circumstances under which the military government took power in Turkey: the near-anarchy and the threatened break down of the mechanisms of the Turkish State.
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You don't need special delegations to do that.
Castellina ken vil blive hørt, at vi må gøre fremskridt, vil dette blive accepteret af de tyrkiske myndigheder.
This is the time to do it, and we recognize — even the enemies of the Turkish authorities recognize — the progress that has been made over the past few years.
Jeg del tog i drøftelsen. Jeg stemte for betænkningen, og navnlig stemte jeg for henstillingen om, at Det Blandende Parlamentariske Udvalg EØF/Tyrkiet bør gen oprettes.
It is via the established Joint Committee that further pro gress towards democracy and the establishment of full human rights can and should be monitored in the years ahead.
Jeg vil derimod komme ind på det grundlæggende spørgsmål, som vi står overfor, og som svarer til dem, vi så ofte har stået overfor: Gavner det genopbyggelsen af demokratiet, at vi bryder forbindelserne, eller bør vi snarere holde en kanal åben for at udøve en pression?
I prefer to tackle the fundamental question we face, which is similar to the one we have faced many times before: is the restoration of democracy better served by breaking off relations or is it preferable to keep open a channel through which we can exert some pressure?
Jeg er klar over, at det er et vanskeligt spørgsmål.
It is a difficult question, I realize that.
Vi mener, at i dette tilfælde vil beslutningen om at genoplive det blandede udvalg uden at have fastsat præcise betingelser i Tyrkiet blive opfattet som et tegn på, at de nu kan blive ved med at holde folk i fængsel og forbyde partier og fagforeninger, som ikke passer i deres kram.
We believe that in this case any decision to revive the Joint Committee without having agreed on precise conditions will be seen in Turkey as a sign that it can now carry on holding people in gaol and banning parties and trade unions it does not like.
De vil tro, at EF vil slå sig til tåls med en halvvejs tilbagevenden til demokratiet.
They will think that the EEC is happy with a partial return to democracy.
Det er også sandt, at det skyldes indflydelsen fra Europa, at en lille smule demokrati er vendt tilbage, men netop fordi Europa har indtaget en særdeles fast stilling under militærdiktaturet.
And it will be true that some degree of democracy has returned as a result of the Community's influence, but specifically because the Community took an extremely firm stand at the time of the military dictatorship.
Ud fra det synspunkt glæder jeg mig over Michael Welsh's strategi her i formiddag, idet han tilbød fuldt ven skab, men samtidig, ligesom mange andre medlem mer her, advarede mod, at de skal gøre fremskridt og tydeliggøre, at de gør fremskridt mod etableringen af et ægte demokrati, og at de også tydeligt skal ophøre med at anvende tortur, ophøre med at tilsidesætte menneskerettighederne og efterhånden bevæge sig mod og tydeliggøre, at de bevæger sig mod en gen indførelse af alle menneskerettigheder.
From that point of view, I welcome the approach of Michael Welsh this morning, who extended the hand of friendship while warning, as have many other Members here, that Turkey must make progress and be seen to make progress towards the realization of true democracy, that it must also be seen to eliminate torture and the denial of human rights and that it must gradually move and be seen to move towards the res toration of full human rights.
I den ånd glæ der jeg mig over betænkningen.
In that spirit I welcome the report.
Hr. Walters betænkning lægger ikke skjul på den kritik, der kan rettes mod Tyrkiet.
The Walter report does not shrink from criticizing Turkey.
Men hvis dens konklusion ikke bliver modificeret, således at den inde holder i det mindste et af de ændringsforslag, som den komunistiske gruppe har stillet, er der ingen tvivl om, at betænkningen vil blive fortolket som en billigelse af den nuværende tingenes tilstand i Tyrkiet, og det forekommer mig alvorligt, også og især fordi der foreligger en ansøgning om tiltrædelse, og hvis vi ikke nu gør noget meget præcist, vil vi få Tyrkiet som medlem af Fællesskabet, som det er i dag. Business is business, det er jeg klar over.
Fine, but unless its conclusion is changed to include at least one of the amendments tabled by the Communist and Allies Group with a view to stricter definition of the terms on which relations should and could be resumed, it goes without saying that the report will be interpreted as condoning the current course of events in Turkey. This seems to me a serious matter, above all because Turkey has applied for membership.
Når der er forretning med i spillet, kan man lukke et øje med hensyn til respekten for demokratiet.
Business is business, as I well know, and clearly where there are deals to be done a blind eye can be turned to fears about democracy.
von Nostitz (ARC). — (DE) Hr. formand, vi anerkender betænkningens differentierethed og afstemthed og vil støtte den og genoptagelsen af dialogen med Tyr kiet.
VON NOSTITZ (ARC). — (DE) Mr President, we recognize the nuances and fine balance of this report and shall vote in favour of it, and by doing so shall vote in favour of resuming the dialogue with Turkey.
Jeg har navnlig glædet mig over, at der i betænk ningen tales om kulturelle fællestræk mellem denne region og vore regioner.
I was particularly happy to see this report mention that this region and our regions have much in common in the cultural sphere.
Men jeg spørger mig selv, og jeg beder Dem om at spørge Dem selv: Hvordan vil beslutningen om at genoptage forbindelserne blive modtaget af de mange tusinde uskyldigt fængslede mennesker?
But I ask myself, and shall end by asking you, this: how will the decision to resume relations be received by all the thousands of innocent people held in prison?
Af vore kammerater, af sekretærerne for det kommunistiske parti og det tyrkiske arbejderparti, partier, der ikke har haft ret til at deltage i valgene, fordi deres med lemmer og sekretærer sidder i fængsel?
By our comrades, by the secretaries of the Communist party and the Turkish Workers' Party, parties which, as I would remind you all, were unable to contest the elections because their secretaries and activists are in gaol?
Tænk blot, hvis det havde drejet sig om Det Kristelig-Demokra-tiske Parti, hvilken opstandelse ville det ikke have afstedkommet!
Just think what a fuss you'd have made if they had been Christian Democrats!
Tænk lidt over det!
Just think about it for a moment, please.
Jeg fordømmer alle dem, som sætter Ef s forbindelser med Tyrkiet ind i en eller anden sammenhæng med dette lands rolle i NATO.
I condemn all those who attempt to equate the EEC's relationship to Turkey with Turkey's role in NATO.
Det er efter min mening ikke muligt at gøre status over den nuværende situa tion i Tyrkiet: Dødsdomme, tortur og mere end ti tusinde politiske fanger, tredive tusinde politiske flygtninge i EF og statssikkerhedsdomstole, som bryder loven, kan ikke modregnes af noget som helst andet.
I do not think it is possible to pass judgment on the present situation in Turkey; nothing can offset death sentences, torture and the more than 10 000 political prisoners, nothing can be set against the 30 000 political refugees in the EEC and state security courts which violate the law.
Derfor mener jeg, ikke at vi ved at støtte den ne betænkning på nogen måde velsigner den nuværende situation i Tyrkiet.
That is why I am saying that by voting for this report we are in no way condoning the present situation in Turkey.
Flanagan (RDE). — (EN) Fru formand, jeg roser også hr. Walter for hans betænkning.
FLANAGAN (RDE). — Madam President, I also commend Mr Walter on his report.
Jeg vil gerne gentage noget af det, han sagde i sin indledning.
I would repeat some of the words in his introduction.
Han sagde, at henstillingen ikke siger mere, men heller ikke siger mindre, end at Det Blandede Parlamentariske Udvalg bør genoprettes.
He said that the recommendation does not say more but does not say less than that the Joint Parliamentary Committee should be re-established.
Jeg er fuldt ud enig i det synspunkt, og jeg håber også, at når hr. Cheysson siger, at kritik
I heartily concur with that view and I also hope that when Mr Cheysson says that criticism will be heard, that we must make progress, this will be accepted by the Turkish authorities. I took part in the debate.
Fru Castellina har efter min opfattelse stillet det rig tige spørgsmål : Hvordan kan vi bedst øve indflydelse på Tyrkiet?
I think that Mrs Castellina put the right question: How can we best influence Turkey? There are forces in Turkey which we absolutely must support.
Jeg gør opmærksom på græsrodsbevægelserne og den tyrkiske presse.
The Walter report reaffirms what we have asserted in earlier resolutions.
Jeg forstår fru Castellina og dem, som stemmer imod denne betænkning, fordi de frygter, at en støtte af denne betænkning vil blive for stået forkert i den tyrkiske offentlighed. Men netop fordi vi stemmer så differentieret her, mener jeg, at vi angiver en tydelig retning.
Have we now decided to accept the situation in Turkey as it is and to forget the thousands of political prisoners, the racial, linguistic and cultural persecution of the Kurds, the military courts, the detention and torture of political leaders, the draconian press restrictions and the banning of trades unions?
I dette Blandede Udvalg, som jeg er medlem af, vil vi gøre det klart, at Tyrkiet må gøre fremskridt, hvis det ønsker at komme videre med forbindelserne med EF.
And if so, what is the point of making fresh mention in this new report of the unacceptable things which are still happening in Turkey just as before?
Problemet — og jeg henvender mig især til hr. Walter, fordi det forekommer mig, at det tyske socialdemokratiske parti for nogle år siden som det sidste sluttede sig til den faste linje over for Tyrkiet — er, at selv om det må indrømmes, at der er sket fremskridt, så skyldes det også den kendsgerning, at Fællesskabet har valgt at følge en fast linje og givet afkald på den fingerede dialog, den fingerede pression og den fingerede kontrol med, hvad der skete i Tyrkiet.
I had the experience of being present in the Turkish Grand National Assembly during the debate on a very frank statement by the country's President, and I got the clear impression from the debate that parliamentary democracy is alive and well.
Dimopoulos (DR). — (GR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, vores gruppe kan ikke andet end hilse enhver mulighed og enhver proces velkommen, som fører henimod en fremtidig styrkelse af den lederposition, som altid har tilkommet det i en stor del af verden.
BEYER DE RYKE (LDR). — (FR) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, let me say straight away that the Liberal and Democratic Reformist Group and I myself congratulate Mr Walter.
I denne henseende håber jeg, at vore ændringsforslag vil få støtte af andre kolleger, og jeg glæder mig over, at vore socialistiske kolleger har stillet ændringsforslag, der går i den modsatte retning af hr. Walters betænkning.
We have tabled two amendments. The first seeks to clarify that full reactivation of the Joint Parliamentary Committee will follow only when it is judged that con ditions mentioned in the Walter report have been satisfactorily complied with.
Plaskovitis (S). — (GR) Hr. formand, Walter-betænkningen er foranlediget af et berettiget ønske om at fremme FF's forbindelser med Tyrkiet efter 8 års afbrydelse på grund af militærkuppet i landet i september 1980.
The second amendment refers to paragraph 27 of the report in the light of talks which have already begun between the President of the Cyprus Republic and the representative of the Turkish Cypriot community under the auspices of the UN Secretary-General and is aimed at giving these talks a greater chance of success.
Men Walter-betænkningens så overvældende følsomhed med hensyn til den fortsatte krænkelse af menneske rettighederne i Tyrkiet gør blot Europa-Parlamentets ligegyldighed over for en kendsgerning, som man officielt har fordømt i denne forsamling, endnu mere sørgelig, jeg hentyder til eksistensen på fjortende år af politiske fanger i græske fængsler, dvs, i et af Fælles skabets medlemslande.
The delegation that I have the honour to chair and that I had the privilege to take to Turkey last December — which, regardless of political views, was unanimous in its findings — welcomed the obvious progress that had been made but at the same time found that there were limitations to parliamentary democracy, specifically that the electoral laws erected certain barriers that we would like to see lowered, and that certain political movements were still banned in Turkey.
Negri (NI). — (IT) Hr. formand, af og til er det, der gør ondt her i salen, hykleriet.
TOKSVIG (ED). — (DA) Mr President, my group has already welcomed the Walter report.
Vi må imidlertid ikke glemme, at det hele tiden har været hæren, der reelt har styret de politiske initiativer og den politiske udvikling i Tyrkiet, og derfor er den fremtidige udvikling henimod et virke ligt demokrati efter europæisk opfattelse stadig tivlsom.
We have heard them today and they are also in the report. There are still elements open to criticism in Turkish society, and there are others which have not been fully documented.