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bevaret, men som nu desværre er ved at gå tabt på grund af den enorme forskel på aflønning af russiske — eller lad os sige ex-sovjetiske — videnskabsmænd og tilsvarende aflønning andre steder.
In the first place we should like to remind the House that the Soviet Academy of Sciences was broken up, but it was not replaced by the Russian Academy of Sciences, founded on 14 December 1991.
Jeg skal påpege, at denne masseindvandring, denne hjerne flugt er nået til det punkt, hvor den har bevirket et fald i akademikerlønningerne i USA.
This presents a great problem for international science.
Lønningerne til universitetsprofessorer er faldet, fordi der på markedet er en enorm mængde fysikere, matematikere og andre videnskabsmænd, som accepterer et betydeligt lavere lønniveau for at slippe væk fra deres eget land. Der er altså tale om en nødsituation, som Europa ikke har været i stand til at reagere på, eller som det i praksis har reageret ekstremt lang somt på.
Secondly, we consider that the Soviet brain drain is to be considered, at this moment, as a theft from the educational system of the Soviet Union, since Soviet science represents an immense capital accumulated by the efforts of millions of people, a capital that has yielded an enormous heritage of knowledge, special­ization, skills and ultra­top­level know­how.
Det ville have været rigtigt at skabe organisationsstrukturer til samarbejde med denne masse af videnskabsmænd, sådan at de kunne blive i Sovjetunionen og have udveksling med andre lande under opretholdelse af en intakt forskningsenhed og en intakt tradition, uden at det skulle komme til denne nyttesløse diaspora.
Only those who have had dealings with Soviet scientists in the past can acknowledge and maintain this without any demagogic overtones whatsoever.
Fru formand, hertil kommer en anden vigtig kends gerning, som hr. Galland og de liberale overhovedet ikke nævnte i deres første beslutningsforslag, nemlig den snævre forbindelse mellem udsalg af hjerner — de såkaldte »lejehjerner« — og udsalg af bestrålet materiale samt råmateriale, som kan anvendes til fremstilling af atombomber. Dette salg finder sted ved udsmugling og salg på det sorte marked i Zürich i Schweiz og i Milano i Italien. Dette er et væsentligt aspekt, som langt overskrider problemet med sikker heden i de civile — eller såkaldt fredelige — atomkraftværker, og som knytter atomproblemets to aspekter tæt sammen: det civile og det militære aspekt.
We are worried about international safety, because of the proliferation and availability of these scientists on the market, and we are worried at the danger that a heritage might be dispersed, that could not easily be reassembled ; and to stop it from being dispersed it is necessary to prevent a situation persisting, in which scientists are paid five dollars a month in their own country, so that they are trying to escape elsewhere.
Det er ikke lykkedes os at finde ud af, præcist hvor disse sendinger kommer fra. Men vi har omfattende dokumentation for, at denne handel, som foregår på det sorte marked i Zürich og Milano, har forsynet lande i Maghreb og Machrek og således øget ustabiliteten og faren for nuklear spredning.
Our group is going to show its customary determination and responsibility in campaigning to bring pragmatic change in aspects of the world that we do not like and to ensure that risks to which future generations should not be exposed are eliminated.
Det er derfor, vi i bevidsthed om risikoen og vort ansvar sammen med de liberale har ønsket denne diskussion i plenum for at udvirke, at Parlamentet og Kommissionen skal træffe de nødvendige foranstaltninger og de beslutninger, som det europæiske folk forventer.
For these aims to be achieved, there have to be control and responsibility in the military sphere and a civil nuclear power industry producing economical, clean and safe energy.
Regge (GUE). — (IT) Fru formand, jeg er på nogle punkter enig i hr. Bettinis kritik, idet jeg ikke mener, dette er den rette sammenhæng til diskussion af sikkerhedsproblemerne ved kernekraftværker til civilt brug — et meget kompliceret tema — selv om jeg ikke er enig med dem, som kategorisk definerer disse kraftværker som usikre.
BETTINI (V). — (IT) Madam President, I shall have to change the form of my speech slightly, because of the futile and demagogic polemic that Mr Galland has sought to start in this Chamber, with the statement with which he closed his speech, i.e. : 'we want power stations that are both safe and economical'.
Flertallet af de kraftværker, der findes i Sovjetunionen og Østlandene, er bestemt ikke sikre.
We take the view that the only safe nuclear power station is a shut­down power station, a power station that does not operate.
Der er altså tale om en arv, som er blevet
This is the reason why we asked for the
Ephremidis. — (GR) Hr. formand, uden antydning af sarkasme vil jeg gerne minde om fortællingen om troldmandens lærling. Fire årtier efter krigen blev
Mr President, there is another fact connected with this which is of considerable importance, but it is a fact which Mr Galland and the Liberals did not even mention in their first resolution: and that is, the very close connection between the cut price selling­off of brains —■ the so­called 'mercenary brains' — and the cut price selling­off of irradiated material and raw materials that are of value for the production of nuclear weapons ; this cut price selling­off that has been going on under illegal, black market conditions in Switzerland, on the Zurich market, and in Italy, on the Milan market.
Ephremidis realisere denne fuldstændigt, det er endda i høj grad et spørgsmål, om disse atomkraftværker overhovedet opfylder og kan opfylde vore normer, men det er i hvert fald således, at vi straks efter, at vi fik disse penge stillet til rådighed, også blev aktive på det nukleare sikkerhedsområde.
BETTINI simple problem of the safety of civilian — or socalled 'peaceful' — nuclear power stations, and which closely links together the two aspects of the nuclear question — the civilian aspect and the military one.
alt sat i bevægelse, for at vi kunne få denne opløsning af Sovjetunionen. Den ansvarlige samtalepartner, den ansvarlige vogter over atomforskning og -råstoffer var ikke til stede.
Soviet Union, they could have exchanges with the rest of the world and could keep a research unit intact, and a tradition intact, without ending up in this useless state of dispersion.
Problemet behandles temmelig ensidigt. Man taler om tredjelande som Pakistan, Irak m.fl.
We have never understood precisely where these stocks came from.
Der foregår en veritabel »head hunting«, ikke på sprænghoveder, men på hjerner og tilsvarende råmaterialer og forskningsresultater. sultater.
That is why, conscious of the danger and of our responsibilities, we and the Liberals together have promoted this discussion in the House, to ensure that Parliament and the Commission can adopt the necessary measures and we can take the decisions that the people of Europe are expecting us to take.
Den anden aktivitet, som jeg vil nævne i denne forbindelse, er Centret for Videnskab og Teknologi, som vil blive officielt åbnet i morgen. Også her kan man ikke tale om et initiativ, der kommer for sent.
Naturally, it is necessary to distinguish between those whose work is fundamental research or pure research and the nuclear engineers whose work is essentially building nuclear weapons.
Initiativet er taget af udenrigsminister Genscher, den russiske udenrigsminister Kozyrev og den amerikanske udenrigsminister Baker.
It will be necessary to decide in detail which are these civilian uses, and they naturally also include the dismantling of nuclear weapons.
Ideen blev udformet i anden halvdel af februar og bliver realiseret i første halvdel af marts.
I agree on the absolute priority of preventing, by every means at our disposal, these people from going and making atomic bombs and accelerating the process of nuclear proliferation that is already going on.
Jeg må sige, at jeg synes, at det er en reaktionshastighed, som snarere burde fremkalde nogen anerkendelse end kritik.
We need to have a uniform policy, so as to obviate inequalities of this kind, which would be terribly harmful.
Hensigten med dette center er på alle mulige måder at engagere viden skabsmænd inden for kerneteknologien i SNG-landene, anvende deres viden til fredelige formål, kort sagt at undgå, at den nævnte spredning, også af talent, skulle fortsætte.
We need also to set in progress a policy for exchanges — not simply a policy of cultural piracy -which amongst other things is what is practised by the United States and other states, whereby these persons are induced to leave Russia and never go back again ; I should instead like a more constructive policy of long term collaboration, leading to exchanges between cultural institutions and universities in the Community and the Russian universities, so that there would be an exchange of persons in both directions.
Men vi må selvfølgelig også her være klar over, at vore muligheder er begrænsede.
That is the only way to arrive at a healthy, balanced policy that would not prejudice our international relations in the future.
Kommissionen har foreslået og også besluttet at anvende 20 mio. ECU til dette center.
EPHREMIDIS (CG). — (GR) Mr President, without wishing to be sarcastic I would like to recall the story of the sorcerer's apprentice.
Det forekommer måske ikke at være så meget, men det er af det samlede beløb, som er til rådighed for SNG-landene, en væsentlig begyndelse.
Four decades after the war every effort was made to arrive at this outcome, the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
De Forenede Stater er villige til at bidrage med 25 mio. dollar, måske er der andre endnu, hvilket vi vil høre mere om i morgen.
There is now no responsible interlocutor, no responsible custodian either of nuclear science or of nuclear materials.
Det er et første skridt, det er bestemt ikke det sidste, men jeg tror, at det også vil være et signal til videnskabsmændene i SNG-landene om, at vi i den vestlige industrialiserede verden er villige og også i stand til at træffe foranstaltninger med hen blik på at rette deres viden mod fredelige mål.
And now we find ourselves facing the terrifying possibility, which has started becoming a reality, that nuclear materials, nuclear scientists, nuclear research and results are being disseminated and the most destructive means conceived by the mind of man is spreading, with the risk that some undesired or inadvertent catastrophe for mankind may ensue.
Andriessen, næstformand for Kommissionen. — (NL) Fru formand, den bekymring, som det ærede med lem har givet udtryk for, over den nukleare proble matik i SNG-landene og egentlig også i landene udenfor, for problematikken findes bestemt også i landene i Central- og Østeuropa, er forståelig.
REGGE (GUE). — (IT) Madam President, I wish to associate myself with some of Mr Bettini's remarks deploring certain observations by the previous speaker, inasmuch as this does not seem to me to be the proper context in which to discuss questions regarding the safety of nuclear power stations for civilian use, which is undoubtedly a highly complex subject, even though I do not agree with those who state that such power stations are unsafe in absolute terms.
Jeg tror, at det er særdeles berettiget, at Europa-Parlamentet i dag debatterer denne vigtige sag, og det vil bestemt ikke være sidste gang, at der tales herom, for problematikken er enorm, og de midler, som vi har til rådighed til at gøre noget ved denne proble matik, er selvfølgelig begrænsede.
I consider instead that research is necessary for the construction of power stations that must be very much safer than those of today.
Der er i beslutningsforslagene talt om SNG's rolle som institut, som organisation.
The majority of the power stations in the Soviet Union and the Eastern European countries are certainly not safe.
SNG er en koordination, ikke noget internationalt retssubjekt, det er ikke en institution, som har beføjelser med hensyn til de lande, som deltager deri.
May I just mention that the Russian school of mathematics has its origins essentially in the arrival of the Swiss mathematician Leonardo Eulero at St. Petersburg, and that it thus has an illustrious tradition going back at least two hundred years.
Det er et koordinationspunkt, som bestemt kan bruges, men som efter min faste overbevisning ikke har muligheder for at gøre en række ting, som der anmodes om i beslutningsforslagene.
We are therefore talking about a heritage that should have been preserved but that unfortunately is being lost, because the gap between the salaries of Russian — or should we say exSoviet — scientists and those paid elsewhere is enormous.
Det skal snarere overlades til de individuelle uafhængige stater i SNG-regi, og det er også grunden til, at Kommissionen har foreslået, at det center, som vil blive oprettet i morgen, får mulighed for at have filialer i andre vigtige byer i SNG-landene, fordi det bestemt ikke er udelukket, at der f.eks. i Alma-Ata eller i Kiev eller andre steder bør træffes foranstaltninger med en sådan målsætning.
I would also point out that this mass immigration, this brain drain, has reached such a point that it has forced down the salaries paid in the United States for academic work — that is to say, the salaries paid to university professors have fallen, since there are enormous numbers of physicists, mathematicians and scientists on the market, who accept being paid at a distinctly lower level, just for the sake of being able to leave their own country.
Faktisk arbejder Kommissionen, Det Europæiske Fællesskab, på dette problem på to fronter.
We are talking therefore about an emergency situation to which Europe has not reacted, or to which, in practice, it has reacted extremely slowly.
Der er således konkrete aktioner i gang, f.eks. i Bulgarien, hvor der er anvendt store betydelige summer penge for at øge atomkraftværkernes sikkerhed. Jeg siger ikke, at vi er i stand til at
Organizational structures should have been created to facilitate collaboration with this mass of scientists so that, whilst still remaining in the
Endelig er der talt om den sorte handel med atombrændstof.
We are looking at the problem rather one-sidedly.
Jeg'må sige, at vi ved meget lidt om
There is talk about third countries, Pakistan, Iraq, etc.
Europa-Parlamentets forhandlinger
There is literally a head-hunt, not
Det er også karakteristisk for den kendsgerning, at der er sort handel.
EPHREMIDIS of nuclear warheads but of nuclear brains and the corresponding materials and research results.
De angrende nomenklaturister, som stadig styrer disse stater i dag, er rede til at bide mange krænkelser i sig for at bevare magten.
their knowledge to peaceful ends, in short to stop the said proliferation, also of talent, from continuing.
Men hvad tænker de nye politiske kræfter, som vil styre i morgen, og navnlig den røde hær?
But we must here too be quite clear about the fact that our possibilities are limited.
Den er i forvejen destabiliseret på grund af USSR's opløsning, og hvor længe vil den bære denne ydmygelse?
The Commission has proposed and also decided to put ECU 20m into this centre.
Formanden. — Som afslutning på forhandlingen har jeg modtaget fem beslutningsforslag med anmodning om afstemning snarest muligt. ')
That may not seem much but, seen against the total amount available for the CIS countries, it is a substantial start.The USA is prepared to contribute 25m dollars, and perhaps there are others, more about whom we shall be hearing tomorrow.
Afstemningen om anmodningen om afstemning snarest muligt finder sted ved forhandlingens afslutning. ning.
It is a first step, it will certainly not be the last, but I think it will also be a signal to the scientists in the CIS countries that we, the Western industrialized world, are ready and able to engage in projects aimed at putting their knowledge to peaceful uses.
På et eller andet tidspunkt vil den russiske befolkning rejse sig.
There must really be a serious and united approach to the problem, because otherwise the possibilities could be tragic.
Hvis man vil undgå, at dette betyder en afslutning på freden, må man, allerede fra i dag, behandle staterne i SNG som ligeværdige partnere inden for rammerne af et styrket samarbejde.
What can be done in the short term to keep those people where they are, with some decent standard of living so that they can continue to be productive as scientists ?
Vil vi være kloge nok til at forstå dette?
To guard against the spread of these destructive nuclear materials ?
Desama (S). — (FR) Fru formand, efter Berlinmurens fald og navnlig efter den derpå følgende opløsning af det sovjetiske system fremgik det meget klart, at Lenins arvtagere var ude af stand til at styre økonomien og administrere staten.
ANDRIESSEN, Vice-President of the Commission. — (NL) Madam President, the concern expressed by the honourable Members about the nuclear problem in the CIS countries, and also in fact in the countries outside, for the problem certainly exists in the countries of Central and Eastern Europe too, is quite under standable.
Socialismen havde ganske lidt nederlag, og for nogle var det enden på det hele, dvs. kapitalismens endelige sejr.
I think it quite right that the European Parliament should be debating this important subject today, and it will definitely not be the last time it is discussed, since it is an enormous problem and the resources at our disposal to do something about it are of course limited.
Robles Piquer (PPE). — (ES) Fru formand, vi må så vidt muligt undgå, at denne forhandling får en sådan teologisk karakter, som Parlamentets debatter om atomkraft ellers altid får.
In conclusion, mention has been made of the black market in fissionable material.
Det drejer sig ikke om at fordømme eller lovprise, heller ikke om at under strege de indlysende risici, der er forbundet med anvendelsen af kernekraft.
I have to tell you that we know very little about this. That is a characteristic feature of black-market activity.
Det drejer sig derimod om at erkende det faktum, at det tidligere Sovjetunionen har bidraget afgørende til udviklingen af kerneenergi, og at en stor del af de videnskabsmænd, der holdt til i byen med det symbolske navn Akademgorodok, var beskæftiget med denne type forskning. ning.
In the single case known to us and to which reference has here been made, Euratom and the Italian authorities have cooperated intensively to track down the relatively small quantity of plutonium involved.
Nu, da de ikke længere er beskæftiget inden for — hovedsagelig militær — kerneforskning, står de uden job, og der er en alvorlig risiko for, at de stiller deres faglige viden og kunnen i destruktive kræfters tjeneste. neste.
PRESIDENT. — I have received five motions for resolutions with request for an early vote to wind up this debate.1
Først når der oprettes en veritabel »forsyningstjeneste« fra SNG's side med uran og plutonium, bliver den vestlige verden opmærksom på, at der i Moskva, som i andre kerneforskningsbyer, har levet tusindvis af kernefysikere og ingeniører, blandt de bedste i verden.
In fact the Commission, the European Community, is working on this problem on two different fronts. First, in the Phare programme, which concerns the countries of Central and Eastern Europe, as also in our technical assistance to the CIS states, we have set aside relatively large amounts in connection with nuclear energy and nuclear safety.
Et internationalt center for videnskab og teknologi, oprettet i denne anledning og forsynet med 50 mio. ECU sammen med den håndfuld dollars, præsident Bush giver, i mangel af yen, er uden tvivl et første, meget forsigtigt skridt.
So there are concrete projects in progress, for instance in Bulgaria, where relatively large sums of money have been made available to increase the safety of nuclear power stations.
I øvrigt er det ikke sikkert, at videnskabsmændene ser det som den mest heldige følge af regeringsændringerne at opleve sig selv behandlet som fodboldeller skøjtestjerner.
I am not saying that we are able to achieve this completely, it is even very doubtful whether these power stations satisfy or can satisfy our standards, but anyway the fact is that as soon as we got hold of these funds we took action in the field of nuclear safety.
Disse forskere er afgjort mere værd og fortjener i det mindste at blive inddraget i det udvekslingsnet, som oprettes mellem vore laboratorier og universiteter.
So I cannot entirely agree with the criticism that has been voiced here that we were too late in taking action.
Det drejer sig om så vidt muligt at undgå dette og at tage sådanne initiativer, som anbefales i det fælles beslutningsforslag.
The decision on the request for an early vote will be taken at the end of the debate.
Men kan vi tillade os på forhånd at definere den rolle, de skal spille for fremtiden!
The initiative was taken by Minister Genscher, Russian Foreign Minister Kozyrev and US Foreign Minister Baker.
Jeg er ikke sikker.
The idea was mooted in the second half of February and put into action in the first half of March.
Hvis man ikke vil, eller ikke kan, give alle disse lande, især i SNG, håb om tilslutning til Fællesskabet, bør de i hvert fald vide, om vi
The purpose of this centre is in all manner of ways to give employment to nuclear scientists from the CIS countries, to harness
Seligman (ED). — (EN) Fru formand, det vigtigste for mig er truslen fra de 100 t plutonium i selve kernevåbnene.
And then out of the blue, emerging from who knows what mausoleum, the sons of Sakharov have given a very timely reminder that the USSR was one of the two great nuclear powers in the world and outstripped the United States itself in the space race.
Med mindre vi kan skaffe os af med det plutonium, som er i disse våben, vil de blive ved med at være en trussel på ubestemt tid, hvor de end anbringes og opbevares.
Now, freed from their earlier, predominantly military calling, they find themselves out of work and there is a serious risk of their energies and talents being applied in the service of those outbreaks of destruction which still occur in the world we live in.
Den eneste kendte måde, hvorpå man kan befri verden for plutonium, er ved at brænde det i en hurtig reaktor.
It has taken the organization of nothing short of a uranium and plutonium 'takeaway service' from the CIS to remind the West that there are living in Moscow and the nuclear centres some thousands of physicists and engineers who are among the best in the world.
Disse reaktorer kan indstilles, så der ikke sker nogen formering, ved at fjerne uranformeringsdækket.
It is by no means certain that being treated like football or figure-skating stars is the best thing that could have happened to these scientists as a result of the change of regime.
Japanerne har allerede taget initiativ i denne retning med planer om at bygge en 800 megawatt hurtig reaktor, baseret på den nuværende 280 megawatt hurtige reaktor, og denne vil brænde våbenplutoniumet op.
It is regrettable that we have not been able to go further than the United States in this initiative, and if we could not do so in the specific way that I have mentioned, we should at least have done something to harvest the enormous mass of talent housed in the brains of the Russian scientists.
Truslen fra disse våben og de videnskabsmænd, som følger med dem, er den største trussel mod verden, navnlig hvis de falder i hænderne på politiske ekstremister og fundamentalister af en hvilken som helst overbevisning. Så vi må prøve at skaffe os af med dette overskydende plutonium.
I am not so sure. This brings us to one of the weaknesses in the European Community's relations with the former Communist countries of Eastern Europe: the lack of a political frame of reference to give meaning and shape to the association and cooperation agreements, in the field of technology in particular.
Larive (LDR). — (NL) Fru formand, den kolde krig er bilagt til Vestens fordel. Alligevel kan vi alle sammen gå over i historien som tabere.
LARIVE (LDR). — (NL) Madam President, the Cold War has been settled in the West's favour.
Og naturlig vis sigter jeg til den truende spredning af kernevåben.
I am of course referring to the menacing proliferation of nuclear weapons.