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Jeg vil derfor også på plenarforsamlingen stem me imod ændringsforslag nr. 45, hvori dette ord forekom mer.
This is precisely the balanced approach we would like to see adopted in the present directive.
Jeg vil gøre opmærksom på endnu en mærkværdig hed i terminologien: I Kommissionens forslag tales der hele tiden om »deltidsejendom«. Ejendomsret til fast ejendom betyder for mig en ejendomsret, der er sikret erhververen ved tinglysning, hvorefter han bliver ejer, når købsprisen er erlagt.
As for the difference with what was expressed by the rapporteur in the opinion of the Committee on Legal Affairs, in its explanatory statement, Mr Garcia Amigo, I mean that the fact that Article 229 of the Treaty of Rome prevents us from dealing from this matter does not prevent consideration of timesharing because the right to property is not be regulated per se — instead this proposal for a directive is aimed at harmonising, through minimum norms, the details of the contract which may be a transfrontier contract.
Men i forbindelse med disse kontrakter er der slet ikke tale om egentlig ejendomsret, men kun om brugsret, og det er en obligationsretlig kontrakt.
It is full of small print and is usually a socalled adhesion contract, requiring the back ing of Community bodies to safeguard the consumer so that he is not, as unfortunately happens to often, harmed in any way.
Og hvad med subsidiariteten?
However, all depends on what the contract is called.
Der er tale om en ramme lovgivning, der opstiller minimale normer for den nationale lovgivning.
It may be a contract enabling use of property and Amend
Alle spørgsmål om den juridiske udformning af time sharing-systemet hører under medlensstaternes kompetence.
McMILLAN SCOTT (PPE). — Mr President, this debate represents something of a triumph for the European Parliament.
Vi mener, at de europæiske regler giver medlemsstaterne tilstrækkeligt spillerum — dette siger jeg ikke mindst med adresse til Nederlandene og Luxembourg, som er temmelig tøvende.
Even without the right of initiative we man aged to bring proposed legislation this far and I look forward to its passage into law in due course in the Member States.
Den nye artikel 129A i Maastricht-Traktaten øger nødvendigheden af en europæisk forbrugerlovgivning.
I congratulate Mrs Kuhn on a very well organized report and for the work she has put into it.
Dette er en rimelig betænkningstid, for det forholder sig jo sådan, at man efter at være blevet traktateret med gaver og champagne ofte for sent opda
I thank also the Commission, not only Mrs Scrivener but also her predecessor Mr Van Miert, for the interest they have shown in this subject. This directive of course
Således passer direktivet på mange punkter ikke ind i selskab skonstruktioner som f.eks. fondsmodeller.
The criminal law is there to protect the weak, the vulnerable and the less sophisticated from the crook.
rette tid at sikre, at det område af udbud og efterspørgsel inden for turismen, der har sin berettigelse i turistsektorens virkelige demokratisering og i den ret, alle borgere har til ferie og til at have en anden bolig til formålet, har kunnet bevare sin anseelse.
My interest in this subject goes back to 1986, when Spain and Portugal joined the European Community, when for the first time we could get to grips with some of the holiday problems that were occurring in those countries.
Det er i øvrigt en vigtig faktor i turisternes trofasthed mod et land eller en region.
And my own investigations for the Petitions Committee which have already been referred to showed that in the case of real estate there was widespread use of illegal second mortgages, faulty or dishonest legal transactions, lack of essential services in estates like water, electricity and roads and intimidation by developers.
Selv om forslaget til direktiv er et næsten perfekt eksempel på anvendelsen af subsidiaritetsprincippet, har det ud over forsinkelsen også den fejl, at det overdriver visse aspekter, hvilket det er vigtigt at understrege.
The European Community and the single market are creations of the rule of law, yet right across southern Europe, timeshare developments seem to be becoming bandit country where the rule of law no longer applies.
Den i artikel 7 fastsatte fortrydelsesret er det vigtigste element i direktivforslaget. Det skal hilses velkomment, at forbrugeren i den lange frist kan tilbagekalde sin viljeserklæring.
Timeshare is a concept which started in France in the 1960s and went then to the United States, and from the United States was driven across the Atlantic by Englishspeaking marketing companies — which is why so many British people have bought time-shares.These companies now operate in the holiday areas of Europe.
Men nogle detailpunkter giver anledning til betænkning.
But it is not true to say that it is only a British problem.
Således burde afviklingsbestemmelserne i stk. 2 udgå.
So it has now assumed European dimensions.
Her er der slet ikke brug for en harmonisering; den nationale ret, som har stået sin prøve, kan anvendes.
Last week I received a letter of complaint from a woman in England who was complaining about a Portuguese timeshare resort with its legal status registered in Germany and 1,000 owners from all over Europe.
Beskyttelsen af forbrugernes interesser er det centrale emne og formål. Man må dog passe på ikke at overdrive unødigt.
When in Tenerife I urged the Spanish Attorney-General — and I must emphasize that it is not only in Spain that there is a problem — to ensure that crimes involving citizens of other Member States are prosecuted as vigorously as those involving the citizens of the state in question.
Kravet om brugen af køberens modersmål på oplysninger og kontrakter er et af disse tilfælde. Vi er ikke enige i en tidsfrist for fortrydelsesretten — den såkaldte cooling off— på 28 dage.
To discriminate on grounds of nationality is contrary to everything this Community stands for.
Erfaringerne viser, at både i De Forenede Stater og i Europa sker annulleringen af en kontrakt i mere end 50% af tilfældene inden for 72 timer efter undertegningen af kontrakten.
But of course the signatories of the Maastricht Treaty have clearly shown that there is a need for the criminal law to work in a coherent manner across the whole single market. We in this House speak for subsidiarity.
Den foreslåede frist er så stor en straf, at der ikke findes nogen parallel i nogen anden forretningsbranche i Europa.
I certainly believe in it, but I do not believe that means purchasers of timeshares in Member States other than their own should be systematically cheated while the criminal authorities stand by just watching.
BRU PURON (PSE). — (ES) Hr. formand, De Europæiske Socialdemokraters Gruppe tilslutter sig generelt fru Kuhns betænkning, om end med visse ændringsforslag, som gruppens medlem af Retsudvalget hermed vil rede gøre for.
SCRIVENER, member of the Commission. — (FR) Mr President, first of all I should like to thank Mrs Kuhn for the interesting report she has drawn up on the proposal for a directive on protecting purchasers in contracts relating to the utilization of immovable property on a timeshare basis.
Målet må ikke være at gøre en ende på forbrugsobjektet, som er acceptabelt.
It is a first step, Mr President, in a process which I believe will lead to a single market in property.
Hvad er ellers betydningen af »ejendomsret til bygninger og beplantning som står på fremmed grund«?
We also have respect for our consumers, and I commend this directive to the House.
Det er således ikke forbudt at dele ejendommen i tid.
I commend it to the European consumer.
Portugal var det første EF-land, der vedtog speciel timeshare lovgivning, og man er i øjeblikket ved at revidere denne lovgivning med et dobbelt formål: på den ene side at forsøge at bevare turismens image, der er blevet flosset af mindre heldige fremgangsmåder ved oprettelse og markedsføring af timeshare projekter — man skærper således sanktioner over for lovovertræderne — og på den anden side er man i gang med at stimulere sektorens rehabilitering, for eksempel ved en fritagelse for skat i forbindelse med overdragelse af fast ejendom.
The aim of this proposal is to try to harmonize legislation by laying down minimum standards to protect consumers who need protection when they enter into contracts on the rights to use immovable property on a timeshare basis, a system better known by the English term of timesharing.
Det var sådan en ligevægtig vision, vi geme så i det foreliggende direktiv.
It is a system with inherent dangers for consumers if they are not very careful and therefore it demands our careful attention.
SÁNCHEZ GARCÍA (ARC). — (ES) Hr. formand, det er velkendt, at De Kanariske Øer er et fast rejsemål for mange borgere fra Det Europæiske Fællesskab.
INGLEWOOD, The Lord (PPE). — Mr President, it is important to stand back from this particular directive and pause for a moment and ask ourselves why it has become necessary at all.
Alt afhænger således af, hvad kontrakten kaldes.
Of course the reason is quite clear.
Der kan være tale om »brugsret« eller »ejendomsret«, og derfor tilslutter jeg mig ændringsforslag nr. 18, der kræver, at tingene kaldes ved deres rette navn, og at det præciseres, hvad der er tale om i de enkelte tilfælde.
A large number of Europe's citizens have been and still are systematically cheated in timeshare property scams, principally but not exclusively in southern Europe.
MENDES BOTA (LDR). — (PT) Man skulle først have mange tusinder snydte forbrugere, før dette forslag til direktiv kom.
We must remember that the term timesharing covers many systems with various differences and many complications.
Man skulle først have et hav af forulempede turister, der søger rekreation i deres ferie, men formelig bliver angrebet af horder af sælgere af andele i timeshare lejligheder, som har skubbet lotteri-sælgerne ud i periferien.
The fact that only four Member States have specific legislation, each setting up a particular system, illustrates the problems of legislating in this area, not to mention the majority of the Member States where in the absence of specific legislation other variations of time sharing are being set up in practice, which complicates the issue yet further.
Timeshare er en ny form for deltidsejendom, et nyt turistprodukt, som giver kunderne mulighed for at have brugsret over en ejendom eller en turistbolig i et bestemt antal dage om året.
In such circumstances there are two ways in which the law should respond.
Det er derfor udmærket, at vi i dag drøfter denne betænkning, og jeg takker ordføreren.
First, it is open to the victim to bring proceedings under the civil law to recover what is lost.
For at undgå en ulige behandling og for at sikre brugerne af timeshare et sikkert juridisk grundlag er det nødven-
It is of course under that particular heading that this directive was drafted.
Dette emne er af særlig interesse for nogle euroæiske regioner som De Kanariske Øer i betragtning af det store antal virksomheder af denne type, som har set dagens lys der, nemlig 92, hvilket svarer til 50% af det samlede antal i Spanien og 18% af det samlede antal i Fællesskabet, sammen med den betydning, som turisterhvervet har for øernes økonomi.
Nevertheless there is one common element in all the variations, namely the contract concluded between the parties, and this is our point of departure to establish consumer protection common to all the variations, irrespective of the practice chosen by national legislation or in practice.
Selvfølgelig er forklaringen ret indlysende.
On Amendment No. 11 the Commission accepts the second part.
Et stort antal europæere er blevet og bliver fortsat systematisk taget ved næsen i forbindelse med fup med timeshare-andele, oftest men ikke udelukkende i Sydeuropa.
The last paragraph is acceptable without the last part which constitutes a limit to the compensation to which the consumer is entitled.
Under sådanne omstændigheder burde loven svare igen på to måder.
On Amendment No. 14, we accept the expressions 'appropriately' and 'right of participation' for they help to clarify the text.
For det første skal den give offeret mulighed for at foretage civilt søgsmål for at få erstattet tabet.
We reject the remainder for reasons of subsidiarity.
Dette har naturligvis været hovedformålet med at udarbejde dette direktiv.
I would also add that the Community has become worried about this problem because the way the marketing is sometimes done in this sphere is quite excessive and works to the detriment of the consumer who has insufficient information and is often under pressure.
McMILLAN SCOTT (PPE). — (EN) Hr. formand, denne debat er lidt af en triumf for Europa-Parlamentet, og selv uden initiativretten er det lykkes os at få et lovforslag så langt frem, og jeg ser frem til at se det blive omsat til national lovgivning i de enkelte medlemslande til sin tid.
I must stress that the Commission's proposal does not intend to regulate each variation or practice, that would be impossible, nor to impose a specific system, but to protect the consumer in an area where, because of the trans-border nature of timesharing and in view of the lack of legislation in most of the Member States the consumer is often in a weaker position, incompatible with the proper working of the single market, an area where, as many speakers have said, he has very often been swindled. led.
Jeg ønsker fru Kuhn til lykke med en meget veldisponeret betænkning og med det arbejde, hun har langt i den.
On the second part we can accept the idea although it must be re-drafted in order to establish clearly the very close link between the information document and the contract.
Jeg takker også Kommissionen, ikke kun fru Scrivener, men også dennes forgænger hr. Van Miert, for den interesse, de har vist for dette emne. Dette direktiv kommer naturligvis for sent for de mange tusinde personer, der er blevet fanget i det, som et firma i Storbritannien, der varetager timeshare-bevisindehavemes interesser, har kaldt for »timeshare-fælden«.
In the new wording the expression 'This document is an integral part of the contract' could be added as a first paragraph of Article 5 of the Commission text.
Ligeledes kommer det for sent for de mange personer, der har skrevet til mig og mine kolleger, og som har købt et timeshare-bevis og har fundet ud af, at det, de har købt, ikke svarer til det, de var blevet lovet.
On Amendment No. 20 we reject the reference to null and void, which should be left up to national legislation, but the remainder is acceptable for it is a question of technical terminology.
Min interesse for dette emne går tilbage til 1986, da Spanien og Portugal blev medlemmer af EF, og hvor vi for første gang rigtigt kunne tage fat på nogle af de ferieproblemer, der var i de lande.
On Amendment No. 31 we reject the first part because the only property to which the directive applies is immovable property.
I alle civiliserede samfund findes der et strafferetssystem, der administreres ved hjælp af den relevante håndhævelse af loven og af de juridiske myndigheder.
Despite that, however, we have difficulty in accept ing 18 other amendments, either because they refer to furnished property which is deliberately excluded from the scope of application of this text, or else because they aim at extending to legal persons the protection granted to natural persons who are really unprotected in this field.
En effektiv håndhævelse af loven har sandsynligvis en større afskrækkende virkning på timeshare-fupmagere end selv de mest gennemtænkte former for forbrugerbeskyttelse.
Or because some amendments refer to problems which can better be solved — and this is important — by national legislation, in the name of subsidiarity.
Men, som jeg erfarede, da jeg sammen med Udvalget om Retlige Anliggender og Borgernes Rettigheder besøgte Tenerife, hvor vi diskuterede dette emne, så arbejder det stedlige civile retssystem meget langsomt, og tilsyneladende har det strafferetlige system næsten aldrig heldet med sig i sit forsøg på at indbringe de kriminelle for domstolen.
Or else, finally, because this directive is not the proper context in which to include some proposals made in the amendments.
Det er demokratiets adelsmærke, at det har en regering, der er folkevalgt, og som holder sig inden for lovens rammer.
The appropriate term must be found in the other languages.
Timeshare-projekteme er ved at udvikle sig til lovløse ghettoer inden for EF.
It would be 'délai de réflexion' in French, 'cooling-off period' in English, and we shall find the appropriate expression in the other languages.
Hvad angår timeshare, er der tale om et fænomen, der blev opfundet i Frankrig i 1960'erne, hvorefter det kom til USA. Herfra blev det spredt på tværs af Atlanterhavet ved hjælp af engelsksproget markedsføring — hvilket er forklaringen på, at så mange briter har købt timesharebeviser, og fænomenet er nu udbredt på feriestederne i Europa. Men det ville ikke være korrekt at sige, at der udelukkende er tale om et britisk problem.
Mr President, I am sure the House will understand the reasons why the Commission decided to reject certain of the amendments tabled, and similarly I am confident that the amendments we have accepted have considerably improved the text, in a spirit of constructive cooperation between the Parliament and the Commission.
Der findes cirka 700.000 ejere af timesharebeviser, og af disse kommer cirka 284.000 fra Storbritannien, og mange andre kommer fra Tyskland, Holland og Frankrig.
So we can accept without further ado Amendments Nos. 8, 13, 16, 21, 25, without the title, 27, 32 to 39, 41, 43, 44, 47, 48 but in its original form, and 53.
Sagen har naturligvis nu antaget europæiske dimensioner.
We accept in part Amendments Nos. 7, 11, 12, 14, 17, 20, 22, 31 and 40, and I would like to comment on them as follows.
Sidste uge modtog jeg et klagebrev fra en dame i England, der klagede over et portugisisk timeshare-feriecenter med juridisk status registreret i Tyskland og med 1.000 medejere fra hele Europa.
On Amendment No. 7, with the exception of the reference to furnished property and to the expression 'capital sum' which is confusing, we can accept the spirit of the amendment with a view to amending the Commission's text.
Forskelsbehandling begrundet i nationalitet er imod alt, hvad Fæl lesskabet står for.
KUHN (PSE), rapporteur. — Mr President, it is certainly to be welcomed that the Commission accepts the bulk of the amendments in full and others in part.
Pedanter kunne måske sige til mig, at strafferetten ligger uden for rammerne for EF-samarbej-det.
I had asked specifically — and it may be that I did not catch this — for the Commission's opinion on Amendment No 23, which I consider of particular importance.
Men underskriverne af Maastricht-Traktaten har naturligvis klart og tydeligt vist, at der er behov for, at strafferetten kan fungere på en ensartet måde over hele det indre marked. Her i forsamlingen er vi fortalere for subsidiaritetsprincippet.
On the basis of that amendment, no payments may be taken from the purchaser before the deadline for withdrawal — in German we refer to deadlines for cancellation — has expired, and this would help also to eliminate aggressive sales techniques.
Resultatet af det arbejde, Europa-Parlamentet har gjort både med hensyn til fast ejendom og timeshare, er dette
SCRIVENER, Member of the Commission. — (FR) I must say that in its present wording, Madam rapporteur, it is unacceptable.
Lord INGLEWOOD skal snydes, og at retsvæsenet blot skal stå og se passivt til.
The general requirements were established in the 1989 framework directive.
Vi accepterer uændret ændringsforslag nr. 8, 13, 16, 21, 25, uden overskriften, 27, 32 til 39, 31,43,44,47,48 men i form af den oprindelige betænkning, og 53.
But we shall take account of what you have said, Madam rapporteur.
SCRIVENER, medlem af Kommissionen. — (FR) Hr. formand Jeg vil først og fremmest takke fru Kuhn for den interessante betænkning, som hun har lavet om forslaget til direktiv om beskyttelse af køberen i kontrakter om brugsret til fast ejendom på timeshare­basis.
KUHN (PSE). — (DE) Mrs Scrivener, experience shows that 95% of people make their purchase on the spot in holiday mood and pay — the ZDF recorded this for a programme on economic and social life using a hidden camera — on the evening that the sales event takes place DM 6,000 for an apartment plus DM 300 in fees.
Det er forslagets formål at prøve på at harmonisere lovgivningerne ved at fastsætte mindstekrav for at beskytte forbrugerne, der har brug derfor, når de indgår kontrakter om benyttelse af fast ejendom på timeshare­basis.
On the next day — they begin to think it over soberly — and I do not mean that people are drunk when they make their purchases — they have therefore come to their senses but they get back neither the DM 6,000 nor the DM 300.
Vi accepterer delvis ændringsforslag nr. 7, 11, 12, 14, 17, 20, 22, 31 og 40, og hertil vil jeg geme knytte følgende kommentarer.
In submitting three directives, on sweeteners, colours and all other additives, the Commission has responded to this call by Parliament.
Angående ændringsforslag nr. 7 med und­tagelse af henvisningen til løsøre og til udtrykket »fast beløb«, som er forvirrende, kan ånden i ændringsforsla­get accepteres med henblik på ændring af Kommis­sionens forslag.
In its discussions, the committee responsible, the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection had in mind two basic objectives: first that additives, which will in future be able to be used throughout the Community, need to be safe.
Den afsluttede henvisning til lejekon­trakt må imidlertid afvises, idet der er medlemsstat, i hvis lovgivning timeshare opfattes som lejeret.
That guarantee is provided by the tests carried out on all substances contained in this Commission proposal by the Scientific Committee for Food.
Der skal tages hensyn til det forhold, at timeshare­begrebet dækker mange indbyrdes forskellige og for de flestes vedkommende meget indviklede former.
SCRIVENER, Member of the Commission. — (FR) That is exactly what I have just said. There is no question of paying a large sum at the time of reserving an apartment or house under the timeshare system.
Vi accepterer ændringsforslag nr. 12, men ordlyden skal revideres.
PRESIDENT. — The debate is closed.
Resten må forkastes af hensyn til subsidiariteten.
PRESIDENT. — The next item is the joint debate on the following two reports:
Jeg vil også tilføje, at når Kommissionen er begyndt at interessere sig for problemet, så skyldes det, at den måde, hvorpå salgsarbejdet undertiden gøres på dette område, er helt umådeholden og går ud over forbrugerne, der ikke får tilstrækkelig informtion og tit udsættes for pres.
Despite these requirements, doubts exist as to the safety of certain additives, in terms either of the substances themselves or their use at the maximum levels proposed by the Commission.
Forslaget om at bruge modersmålet kom­plicerer situationen, og Kommissionen foretrækker sit eget forslag.
With proper labelling, which we shall ensure in the discussions currently continuing on an appropriate Commission proposal, and the amendments to this directive tabled both by myself and the Group of the Party of European Socialists, this problem of providing information for consumers affected in individual cases can be resolved.
Det glæder mig, at Udvalget om Miljø­ og Sundhedsan­liggender og Forbrugerbeskyttelse har forstået forslagets rækkevidde, og jeg er derfor indstillet på at acceptere en lang række af de stillede ændringsforslag.
As far as the second objective of the committee in its discussion of the framework directive on additives is concerned, the European Parliament voted by an over whelming majority that Community-wide additives should be used only where they were technologically necessary and they had been demonstrated to be absolutely safe.
Bortset fra henvisningen til ugyldighed, som bør overla­des til den nationale lovgivning, kan resten af ændrings­forslag nr. 20 accepteres, idet det drejer sig om et spørgsål om fagudtryk.
That principle seems to me to conflict with the apparently substantial absolute figure of 258 additives in total permitted under this proposal.