natgillin/translations-raw huggingface dataset:
For det første beklager jeg selvfølgelig i allerhøjeste grad, at der i Fællesskabet stadig er producenter, som ikke er villige til at overholde de forskrifter, som er udarbejdet under iagttagelse af alle normale lovlige procedurer.
BOCKLET (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, the Commissioner painted a picture of meat imports which is far from rosy, which is why we must put the whole issue under the microscope.
Jeg lægger vægt på at understrege, at Kommissionen i allerhøjeste grad beklager dette.
The EEC bans the use of hormones and veterinary preparations in animal feed.
Samtidig vil jeg give udryk for en vis tilfredshed i den forstand, at hvis der foretages illegal anvendelse af hormoner, opdages dette også regelmæssigt.
That is undisputed; this ban is legally enforceable and will also apply to imports from 1 January next.
Det betyder, at det kontrol system, som nu indføres, begynder at virke. For så vidt som der ikke kan bygges på sektorens solidaritet, vil en effektiv kontrol være nødvendig, og det er glæ deligt at konstatere, at kontrollen begynder at fungere.
The Community is obliged to enforce this ban vis-à-vis third countries.
Jeg husker udmærket, at vi, da vi talte om denne sag her i Europa-Parlamentet, også fra Parlamentets side hørte, at der burde lægges særlig stor vægt på netop kontrol og inspektion.
These hormones and medicines are produced in the European Com munity and in some cases are also commercially avail able.
Jeg vil gerne forsikre Dem om, at Kommissionen vil gøre alt muligt for at forbedre systemet der, hvor det er nødvendigt, og for at sørge for, at overtrædelser af lovgivningen opdages.
Natural hormones are allowed in animal feed on the international scene, especially in the countries of our major suppliers and competitors.
Disse overtrædelser sker.
And that leads to problems when these meat products are imported into the Community.
For ganske nylig, i juli og august, blev vi konfronteret med et meget omfattende tilfælde af overtrædelse i en af medlemsstaterne, i dette tilfælde Forbundsrepublikken.
Substances not permitted in animal feed in the Community are easily available on the world market.
Det vil sige Latinamerika, Nordamerika og Australien.
In doing so he was in breach of the duty to provide information under Article 9 of the EEC directive on residues.
Vi vil under alle omstændigheder i tide indføre et tilfreds stillende inspektionssystem for at kunne sørge for. at også importen fra tredjelande opfylder de specifikke krav, som vi mener, at vi må stille med hensyn hertil.
I think we should proceed to a thorough investigation of all the facts so that we can later find a sensible solution to the problem.
På denne måde tror jeg, at vi kan opnå. at vor egen produktion og importerede produkter behandles på samme måde, og at der kan gives garantier for, at Fællesskabets forskrifter på dette område overholdes korrekt.
Hence the question as to whether a ban can be enforced at all under these circumstances. Some people say that if we cannot enforce the ban by inspection, then we should at least allow the use of natural hormones in animal feed.
Jeg gentager, at hvor dette skulle vise sig ikke at være tilfældet, vil vi gribe ind med alle til rådighed værende midler for at gennemtvinge overholdelsen af vore forskrifter.
We in this Parliament and in the Community have clearly answered that question and declared that for reasons of preventive medicine we should not even allow the use of natural hormones in animal feed.
Dette tilfælde har særligt tiltrukket sig opmærksom heden, fordi det her drejede sig om forholdsvis store antal.
PRESIDENT. — Ladies and gentlemen, this debate has been added to an already full agenda.
I alt er i øjeblikket omkring 14 000 kalve fra samme ejer mistænkt for at være behandlet med hormoner.
In view of the fact that speaking time has not been allocated by the political groups, and in order not to steal too much time from the other items on the agenda, I propose that speaking time be limited to three minutes for speakers on behalf of groups and two minutes for other speakers.
Der er allerede foretaget en lang række undersøgelser og udtaget prøver, og indtil nu er i mellemtiden 4 200 af disse kalve tilintetgjort.
You are overlooking the fact that certain substances are commercially available in some Member States but are subject to prescription in others.
Det ser ud til, at 600 kalve illegalt er unddraget denne undersøgelse, og det er grunden til, at vi har informeret alle medlemsstater og givet dem detaljerne for identifikation af disse dyr, for at de endnu kan opspores.
Clenbuterol, for example, can be bought on the black market in some Member States for DM 5, and with that DM 5's worth an individual farmer can make a profit of DM 100 per calf. These are the facts.
I mellemtiden er der i hele Forbundsrepublikken udtaget mindst 23 000 prøver.
That is why it is too easy to say that the system works because controls are effective in one Member State.
En yderligere undersøgelse iværksættes der. hvor der er en formodning om, at disse overtrædelser kan have fundet sted.
The essential thing is to have the same controls implemented throughout the whole of the Community in all Member States.
På grund af den meget strenge måde at gribe sagen an på i Forbundsrepublikken mente de andre medlems stater, at de for deres vedkommende ikke behøvede at indføre supplerende kontrolforanstaltninger for kød fra Forbundsrepublikken.
Thousands of law-abiding farmers — and I am grate ful to you for having mentioned them — are suffering from the consequences of the actions of a few unscrupulous big farmers.
De nuværende regler giver samtidig mulighed for. at sagkyndige fra Kom missionen udøver kontrol hen over grænserne.
Consumer confidence in the effectiveness of public health protection has been badly shattered.
På kort sigt agter Kommissionen at fremsætte forslag
You only need to look at the statistics on the drop in veal consumption in the Member States,
Formanden. — Jeg takker Kommissionens næstformand, hr. Andriessen.
Deadlines for tabling motions for resolutions and amend ments in respect of the Commission statement: see Minutes.
Kære kolleger, ifølge artikel 56, stk 3, i Forretningsordenen kan medlemmerne inden for en periode på tredive minutter stille korte, præcist formulerede spørgsmål til Kommissionen til belysning af særlige punkter i redegørelsen, medmindre Parlamentet beslutter, at redegørelsen skal efter følges af en forhandling.
That is why I think the first job of the European Com munity must be to ascertain where criminal acts were committed, where there are gaps in EEC legislation, where there are gaps in national legislation, and how we can guarantee that in the future EEC and national controls will be so effective as to ensure that there will not be a repetition of such practices.
Formanden jeg fra Det Europæiske Folkepartis gruppe har mod­taget en anmodning om forhandling efter hr. Andries­sens redegørelse.
Weber on-the-sport inspections, so that it is not when we are actually eating our steak that we realise we are the victims of mistakes or criminal acts.
Jeg vil sætte forslaget fra Dét Europæiske Folkeparti under afstemning. Hvis forslaget vedtages, vil vi gå videre til forhandlingen.
biotics zeranol and trenbolone, alone or in combination under the appropriate conditions, can give the necessary guarantees for the consumer and fulfil the demand and wishes of the producers.
Hvis det forkastes, vil vi have tredive minutter til spørgsmål.
Mr President, I have in conclusion three short questions for the Commission:
Det er kendsgerningerne. Derfor er det ikke tilstræk­keligt at sige, at kontrollen har fungeret i én med­lemsstat, og derfor er alt i orden.
Is the Commission aware of the persistent rumours that illegal and dangerous hormones are used more or less extensively in other countries of the European Community as well?
Vi går herefter videre til forhandlingen ')■
I would also like the Commission to tell us what is currently happening to the Community's veal.
Bocklet (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, kommissæren har tegnet et billede, som ikke ser alt for rosenrødt ud med hensyn til kødimporten.
Are we in the same boat as seven or eight years ago when the Commission bought up veal from farmers who could not sell their meat, stored it in intervention and then later sold it to the consumer under so-called special conditions without guaranteeing that it had not been treated with hormones?
Derfor må vi for en gangs skyld give os i lag med det foreliggende spørgsmål principielt.
Here too we must ask whether the Commission is acting better than seven or eight years ago or whether we have the same scandal ous circumstances which are so detrimental to the con sumer.
Tusinder af lovlydige landmænd — jeg takker Dem for, at De henviste hertil — lider under følgerne af, at visse få samvittighedsløse storbedrifter har overtrådt lovene.
So I should like to ask you this question: Where do you think EEC legislation should be changed in future and how will you guarantee that such scandals will be brought to light after the internal border controls are dropped?
I EF eksisterer der et forbud mod anvendelse af hor­moner og veterinær lægemidler ved opfedning af dyr. Dette er ubestridt, dette forbud er retskraftigt, og det gælder også for importen fra den 1. januar næste år.
JACKSON, Christopher (ED). — Mr President, the evidence given us this morning by the Commissioner confirms the fears that many of us have had that the ban on the use of hormones is unenforceable and that it will encourage the use of illegal and dangerous com pounds.
Fællesskabet er forpligtet til også at gennemføre dette forbud over for tredjelande. Samtidig er veterinære lægemidler til terapeutiske formål tilladt; de må dog i de fleste medlemsstater kun udleveres på recept.
I recall that the Commission, in its headlong rush to introduce this legislation, refused to allow the expert committee to finish its work.
I Det Europæiske Fælleskab bliver disse hormoner og veterinære lægemidler fremstillet og også til dels handlet frit.
My view was, and remains, that this is an uncontrollable ban that will precipitate a trade war.
Overalt i verden, navnlig hos vore vigtig­ste leverandøver og konkurrenter, er det tiladt at anvende naturlige hormoner ved opfedning af dyr.
It is time for the Commission to think again, and to encourage them in this thinking I would like to quote from a report by Professor Karg of the Technische Universität, Munich, in which he says the following:
Dette medfører problemer i forbindelse med im­porten til Fællesskabet af disse kødprodukter.
. . . effectively to impose and implement a total ban would involve a Herculean effort.
De midler, som er forbudt ved opfedning af dyr i Fælles­skabet, kan let tilvejebringes og fås over hele verden, og på baggrund heraf rejser der sig nu det spørgsmål, om et forbud overhovedet kan gennemføres under sådanne betingelser.
There would have to be radical changes on the drug black market and in the producer scene such as hardly appear possible in the European area at the present time.
Endnu en siste bemærkning.
He continues:
De henviste til, at den tyske regering handlede hurtigt.
I have three very brief questions.
Det glæder mig, at De anerkender dette. Den ansvarlige delstatsminister Matthiesen har solet sig i denne handlekraft.
Firstly, regarding the ban on hormones, Mr Andriessen, we hope, as you have said in this House, that there will be no new occurrences, because the directive adopted by the Commission will come into full effect on 1 January 1989.
Der fal­der imidlertid en lille skygge over denne handlekraft, når jeg tænker på, at han immervæk ventede to uger, inden han videregav de oplysninger, han havde fået, til de ansvarlige myndigheder, for at de kunne hand­le.
I would ask you instead what the Commission intends to do about reports that the British courts have upheld the appeal by Fedesa, the hormone manufacturers' association.
For så vidt overtrådte han endog informations­pligten i henhold til artikel 9 i EF's direktiv om rester.
They would appear, effectively, to be letting back in what the Court of Justice in Luxembourg threw out.
Jeg mener, at vi her bør foretage en nøgtern analyse af forholdene, for at vi senere kan finde en fornuftig løsning på problemet.
This is something very serious, and I trust the Commission will be taking appropriate steps.
Der findes folk, som siger, at når vi alligevel ikke kan gennemføre forbuddet konsekvent ved hjælp af kon­trol, bør vi i det mindste tillade naturlige hormoner ved opfedning af dyr.
Perhaps we should consider replacing the total ban on the use of hormones by a harmless legal alternative before the next trade dispute with the USA breaks out.
Formanden. — Kære kolleger, denne forhandling vil betyde en yderligere belastning af den allerede belas­tede dagsorden.
Mr President, a further quote from Professor Debackere of the University of Ghent, who says:
Deres argumentation er noget overfladisk, hr. næst­formand, når De siger, at kontrollen skulle fungere, fordi der én gang er opdaget en overtrædelse i For­bundsrepublikken Tyskland. De overser, at man i visse medlemsstater frit kan handle med bestemte midler, som man kun kan få på recept i andre. Såle­
I know, Commissioner, that you are currently preparing a mark for quality farm products from the Community.
') Frist for at fremsætte beslutningsforslag og stille ændringsfor­slag i tilslutning til redegørelsen: Se protokollen.
In conclusion, as a member of the European Scientific Working Group and as a consumer, I am convinced that the total ban on sex steroids used in animal production is a political decision that will not be controllable nor protect human health and that only the legal admission of the three endogenous hormones and the two xeno-
Weber menter og på producentområdet, som næppe synes mulige for øjeblikket i det europæiske område.
Gatti slowly so that economically they are not as profitable as farming with bulls.
Det hedder videre: tøndernes forsvinden tidligere.
Is the Commission prepared to remove the discrimination and to compensate these farmers who have to farm in this particular way?
Her blev handlet utrolig hensynsløst over for forbrugerne og deres sundhed og de landmænd, som behandler deres husdyr og deres landbrug forsvarligt.
Could the Commission make a statement in relation to this particular system?
Vi skule mæske overveje at erstatte det fuldstændige forbud mod anvendelsen af hormoner med et harmlöst lovligt alternativ, inden den næste handelskrig med USA bryder ud.
When we in the European Community export food products to the USA, the authorities in that country are extremely strict in insisting that their health standards are met, and I don't see why they in turn cannot accept that the Community imposes equally stringent standards and controls, but seek instead to challenge a number of relationships by means of threats or tit-for-tat measures.
Et andet citat af professor Debackere fra universitetet i Gent, som siger:
IN THE CHAIR: MR MEGAHY
Derfor skal det efter min opfattelse først og fremmest være Det Europæiske Fællesskabs opgave at konstatere: Hvor blev der handlet kriminelt, hvor findes der huller i EF-lovgivningen, hvor findes der huller i den nationale lovgivning, og hvordan kan det fremover sikres, at sådanne ting ikke længere sker gennem EF-kontrol og national kontrol?
PASTY (RDE). — (FR) Mr Commissioner, it is per fectly right to wish to enforce Community regulations within the twelve States of the Community.
Dette har Fællesskabet kompetence til, ikke blot med hensyn til den grænse overskridende handel.
It is even essential, for we are talking about legal obligations applicable to all.
Vi må sikre, at der efter grænsekontrollens bortfald, som jo så i fremtiden vil gøre opdagelsen af sådanne transaktioner umulig, allerede kan gribes ind gennem kontrol på stedet — hos kødproducenten, men også hos producenten af disse medikamenter.
But it is clear that the same rigour must be applied to imported meat, as you yourself have agreed, since otherwise unacceptable distortions of competition would be created between farmers in the Community and those in other countries.
Vi har brug for en juridisk bistand, således at der på stedet kan gribes ind i kontrollen, for at vi ikke først i forbindelse med schnitzlen konstaterer, om der blev handlet fejlagtigt eller kriminelt. nelt.
Now the United States, as we know, is disputing the Com munity rules, and you took a pessimistic view just now of the chances of reaching agreement with that country. try.
Jeg har afslutningsvis tre korte spørgsmål til Kom missionen:
I would therefore like to ask you a number of very specific questions.
Er Kommissionen bekendt med de hårdnakkede rygter om, at illegale og farlige hormoner anvendes i større eller mindre grad i også andre af Det Europæiske Fællesskabs lande?
Are you going to go on importing American meat which we know full well comes from farms where hormones are used? Are you prepared to run the risk of a trade dispute with the United States if, in the event, no agreement can be reached?
Var den bekendt med de ekspertudtalelser, jeg lige har læst op?
That is an inherent weakness in what we have done so far in this Community.
Til Kommissionen skal også rettes følgende spørgsmål: Hvad sker der for øjeblikket med Fælles skabets kalvekød?
Finally, I would like us to avoid concentrating exclusively on the negative aspects and to be a little positive where we can.
Har vi igen den samme situaton som for syv, otte år siden, hvor Kommissionen hos landmændene opkøber det kalvekød, som ikke kan afsættes, oplagrer det som interventionslagre og så senere sælger det til forbrugerne på såkaldt særlige vilkår uden at sikre, at kødet ikke er hormonbehandlet?
From this viewpoint I am in full agree ment with Mr Gatti's insistence on the need to create a Community-wide quality mark.
Også her rejser sig således spørgsmålet: Forholder Kommissionen sig denne gang bedre end for syv, otte år siden, eller hersker der igen de samme skandaløse tilstande, som virker til skade for forbruger ne?
In this connection — and I am aware that the Commission has taken initiatives on this matter — I should like to know what pro gress has been made towards rapidly introducing a Community quality symbol or mark that would make it possible to identify meat produced according to cer tain methods or meeting certain quality critera.
Jeg vil således gerne spørge Dem: Hvor skal EF-ret-ten efter Deres mening ændres i fremtiden, og hvor dan sikrer De, at sådanne skandaler også fremover kan opdages efter grænsekontrollens bortfald?
We certainly could not do it the other way around. These countries also have their quality standards and all of a sudden we lay ourselves open to blackmail.
Jeg husker, at Kom missionen i sit hovedkuldse hastværk med at indføre denne lovgivning nægtede at lade ekspertudvalget færdiggøre arbejdet. Det var og er fortsat mit synspunkt, at dette er et forbud, som ikke kan kontrolleres, og som vil fremskynde en handelskrig.
We now find ourselves in a sorry state because of our halfhearted attitude to the hormone issue.
Gatti (COM). - (IT) Hr. formand, hr. kommissær, jeg tror, at spørgsmålet om hormoner må betragtes således, at man tager hensyn til to krav, på den ene side at yde garantier over for de opdrættere, der virkelig producerer kvalitetskød uden at anvende disse produkter og på den anden side at give forbrugerne garantier med hensyn til kvaliteten af de produkter, der fremstilles.
Thirdly — assuming that we are going to continue with this ban on the use of hormones — is the Com mission prepared to remove the discrimination between farmers? In certain countries of the European Community, because it is the tradition to farm cattle on an extensive basis, grazing in the open fields, farm ers must have steers.
Derfor giver jeg Dem ret i, at de pro blemer.
They cannot farm with bulls because bulls cannot be controlled in an open system.
De hentydede til såsom kontrol, forbud mod anvendelse af hormoner samt kvalitetsmærkning er centrale punkter.
In many countries that is mainly the way in which beef is produced.
Derfor stiller jeg Dem tre ganske korte spørgsmål.
We all know that bulls have a plentitude of hormones, so they fatten quickly.
...at indføre og gennemføre et fuldstændigt forbud effektivt vil kræve et kæmpearbejde.
The farmers who farm with steers are discriminated against under this ban, as they cannot put back the hormones into the animals.
Gatti til at skelne mellem disse hormoner i en ny situa tion?
Bloch von Blottnitz stances like clenbuterol are banned in all the Member States as growth promoters? It is vital that we look at this.
Det betyder praktisk talt, at det, der var bragt af vejen efter Domstolens afgørelse i Luxembourg, nu vender tilbage ad bagdøren. Det er en meget alvorlig sag, og jeg håber, at Kommissionen vil anvende pas sende bestemmelser.
has never been sufficiently severe, because penalties are too light and because we have always been equivocal in our attitude: we always make exceptions, never exert proper control and never exact proper penalties.
Det andet spørgsmål drejer sig om kvalitetsmærkning af kød.
On the one hand we are told that yes, we must absolutely support farming.
Hr. kommissær, jeg ved, at De er i færd med at udarbejde en kvalitetsmærkning af Fællesskabets landbrugsprodukter.
That is a basic demand we all support, for that is the only possible guarantee that our food is in any way healthy.
Men med hensyn til kødet tror De så ikke, der ville være grund til at fremskynde sagen og fremkomme med en forodning med gyldig hed for hele Fællesskabet, inden forbudet mod an vendelse af hormoner træder i kraft, således at man kan give de før omtalte garantier?
But then suddenly we find ourselves in the middle of a protracted debate on whether perhaps somehow or other we should permit the use of some hormones. But that is no use whatsoever to our farmers, as we know too well, and that is how we keep on having the type of scandal we have just seen in Germany.
Er Kommissionen for det tredje — idet jeg tager udgangspunkt i, at vi vil fortsætte med dette forbud mod anvendelse af hormoner — villig til at fjerne forskelsbehandlingen af landmændene?
The third point concerns hygiene. There have been express complaints, notably from Germany, about the hygiene aspects of checks and veterinary inspections.
I visse lande i Det Europæiske Fællesskab skal landmændene have stude, fordi man dér har tradition for kvægavl på et ekstensivt grundlag med græsning på åbne marker.
My question on this to the Commissioner is as follows: it is also an essential part of the internal market in 1992 that no checks should be necessary at borders but that veterinary inspections in all Member States should be harmonized and made strict enough.
I mange lande er det hovedsagelig på denne måde, oksekødet produceres.
MERTENS (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, Parliament has taken its decision and would not, I think, be prepared to change it and I am all in favour of that.
Vi ved alle, at tyre har en overflod af hormoner, så at de opfedes hurtigt.
As a consumer and a farmer's wife I find it inadmissible that attempts are constantly being made to reopen the debate on hormones.
Hele den logiske begrundelse for at anvende hormoner er at injicere disse hormoner i studene igen efter kastration for at kompensere for kastrationen, så at de opfedes hurtigere.
The intention is to open up a back door for hormones again — of course only 'natural' hormones, and all kinds of claims are bandied about, even a warning that we will find ourselves in difficulties with this or that country.
Dyrene opfedes langsom mere, således at de ikke er så økonomisk fordelagtige som tyreavl.
Public health is at stake and that, I think, is much more important!
Er Kommissionen villig til at fjerne forskelsbehandlingen og give de landmænd kompensation, som er nødt til at avle på denne måde?
The Commissioner was very moderate in his state ment.
Vi Kommissionen udtale sig med hensyn til dette system?
It took me by surprise in fact, because for weeks now there have been reports of a major hormone scandal.