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I går blev der stillet ændringsforslag til Bockletbetænkningen under drøftelserne i Land brugsudvalget.
Amendments were proposed to the Bocklet report yesterday during the discussion in the Agriculture Committee.
Formanden. — Hr. Lannoye, hvad angår Bockletbetænkningen, har vi fulgt den sædvanUge frem gangsmåde.
PRESIDENT. — Mr Lannoye, for the Bocklet report we have followed the normal procedure.
Betænkningen er blevet opført, fristen for at indgive ændringsforslag er blevet fastsat, og den er udløbet, det er der ikke noget nyt i.
The report was entered in the agenda, the deadline for tabling amendments was opened and closed, there was no problem.
Det er en helt igennem traditionel fremgangsmåde.
The procedure was entirely traditional.
Der ville være blevet tale om en ny frist for indgivelse af ændringsforslag, hvis de to nye betænkninger var blevet opført på dagsordenen, men det er ikke tilfældet.
We would have discussed reopening the deadline for amendments if we had included the two new reports on the agenda, but we have not done so.
Jeg har sagt til kolleger i hele Parlamentet, at den dag vil komme, hvor Parlamentet befinder sig i en skrækkeUg knibe.
LANNOYE (V). — (FR) I leave responsibility for the words 'traditional procedure' to you.
Det er nøjagtig det, vi er i. Jeg ønsker ikke denne deUng.
I do not think it is at all traditional.
Jeg ønskede én sammenhængende betænkning.
wanted one coherent report.
Jeg ønskede, at vi fulgte ånden i Gomez-proceduren, som sikrede, at betænkningerne fra Budgetudvalget, Miljøudvalget og REX-Udvalget kunne forenes med betænkningen fra Landbrugsudvalget, som ville være hovedudvalget.
I wanted us to follow the spirit of the Gomez procedure which would ensure that the Committee on Budgets, the Committee on the Environment and the REX Committee reports could be put together with that of the Committee on Agriculture, which would be the lead committee.
Vi kunne således i fællesskab have fået en passende betænkning.
We could thus have come together to get a proper report.
Jeg har brugt lang tid på forhandUnger med hr. Bocklet i et forsøg på at få ændringsforslag, der kunne accepteres af Landbrugs udvalget.
I have spent a long time in negotiations with Mr Bocklet to try and get amendments that were acceptable to the Committee on Agriculture.
De ændringsforslag, der gik videre til udvalget i går aftes lå langtfra det, der blev vedtaget i Budgetudvalget.
The amendments that went to their committee last night were a long way from what was agreed in the Committee on Budgets.
Jeg deltog og bad indtrængende Landbrugsudvalget om at acceptere disse ændrings forslag, men de blev absolut forkastet.
I went and pleaded with the Committee on Agriculture to take on board those amendments, but they were absolutely rubbished.
Når hr. Bocklet siger, at udvalget accepterede halvdelen af Budgetudvalgets ændringsforslag, er det ikke rigtigt, hr. Bocklet: Det accepterede de forslag, som passede det.
When Mr Bocklet says the committee took on board half the amendments by the Committee on Budgets, that is not true, Mr Bocklet : it took on the ones that suited it.
Det er absolut meningsløst i en betænkning at have et afsnit, der siger: budgetmæssige aspekter foreslået af Landbrugsudvalget.
It is an absolute nonsense to have in a report a section that says : Budgetary aspects drafted by the Committee on Agriculture.
Det er absolut meningsløst i budgetmæssig henseende, navnlig når vi i Budgetudvalget bad udvalget om at gå med til at ophæve de obUgatoriske udgifter.
They are a nonsense in budgetary terms, especially when we in the Committee on Budgets asked the committee to agree with the scrapping of com pulsory expenditure.
Hvordan nogen i Parlamentet kan gå med til filosofien om o b Ug a to riske udgifter, går over min forstand.
How anyone in this Parliament can agree with the philosophy of compulsory expenditure is beyond me.
Men det er det, Landbrugsudvalget gjorde i går aftes.
But that is what the Committee on Agriculture did last night.
Det er af afgørende betydning, at disse betænkninger virkelig videreføres.
It is essential that these reports do go on, Madam President.
Det er af afgørende betydning, at de optages i Bockletbetænkningen.
It is essential that they be included with the Bocklet report.
Jeg henviser dem til artikel 69, når De siger, at der skal fastsættes en frist for ændringsforslag til disse betænkninger.
I refer you to Rule 69 when you said that a time limit must be set for amendments to these reports.
Nej, man behøver ikke fastsætte nogen frist.
No, a time limit does not have to be set.
I artikel 69, stk. 3, hedder det:
Rule 69(3) says :
For det første vil jeg sige, at som ordinært medlem af Parlamentet er jeg tilbøjelig til at give hr. Lannoye ret.
Firstly, I have to say that as an ordinary Member of Parliament I tend to agree with Mr Lannoye.
Bockletbetænkningen vedtoges i aftes med ændringsforslag.
The Bocklet report was adopted last night with amendments.
Jeg kan ikke se, hvornår jeg kunne have fået lejlighed til at stille ændringsforslag, hvis jeg havde ønsket det, da jeg ikke før midnat vidste, hvad Bockletbetænkningen gik ud på.
I do not see when I would have had the opportunity to table amendments if I had wished to do so because I would not have known until about midnight last night what the Bocklet report was going to say.
Jeg kan således ikke indse, hvordan medlemmerne skulle have været i stand til at stille ændringsforslag til denne betænkning.
So I do not see how Members of Parliament could have tabled amendments to this report.
Det er egentlig i hovedtræk Retsudvalgets ændrings forslag.
The second point I want to make relates to page 19 of the Minutes.
Jeg forventer forståelse fra mine danske kollegers side også for dette.
So I object to the interpretation of the Rules of Procedure given by the President last night.
Det andet punkt drejer sig om punkt 12, del I, i protokollen fra mødet i går.
I suggest, Madam President, you put that to Parliament and that we should vote on that.
Jeg kan ikke acceptere formandens fortolkning af forretningsordenens bestemmelser i forbindelse med min henvisning til artikel 73, stk. 3.
If you do not get these reports on with the Bocklet report, I for one will be doing my best to take the Bocklet report off.
Jeg protesterer således mod den fortolkning, som formanden i aftes gav af forretningsordenen. ningsordenen.
It is a disgrace and an insult to the Committee on Budgets and the Committee on Environment that this procedure has gone so far.
Formanden. — Hr. Ford, vedrørende det førstnævnte punkt, skal jeg erindre om, at Miljøudvalget, som De ved, har stillet ændringsforslag til Bockletbetænkningen, og at disse ændringsforslag er blevet drøftet i henhold til den normale procedure for ændringsforslag.
PRESIDENT. — Mr Ford, as regards your first point may I remind you, although you already know very well, that the Committee on the Environment tabled an amendment to the Bocklet report which has already been discussed according to the normal procedure for amendments.
A3343/91) af Janssen van Raay for Udvalget om Retlige Anliggender og Borgernes Rettigheder om forslag fra Kommissionen til Rådet (KOM(91) 188 endel. — C3-277/91 — SYN 344) til direktiv om ændring af direktiv 89/299/EØF om kreditinstitutters egenkapital.
A3343/91) by Mr Janssen van Raay, on behalf of the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights, on the proposal from the Commission to the Council (COM(91) 188 — C3-277/91 — SYN 344) for a directive amending Directive 89/299/EEC on the own funds of credit institutions.
Det andet punkt er et selvrepeterende tal: den berømte komitologi.
PRESIDENT. — There seems to be a misunderstanding here ; perhaps I did not make myself sufficiently clear a moment ago.
Men jeg har endnu aldrig — det siger jeg til begge kommissærer, som er til stede her — set en så stor mængde muligheder.
JANSSEN VAN RAAY (PPE), rapporteur. — (NL) Madam President, the Commission's proposal is to amend the directive of 17 April 1989 on own funds of
Kommissionen har med henblik herpå foreslået type III, variant a. Vi ved alle sammen, at Bankierudvalget er af type III, variant b, og at det også vil blive type III, variant b, men det er et kendt principielt punkt mellem Kommissionen og Rådet.
It is of particular interest to our Danish colleagues because the Danish government is calling for cooperative societies which lend credit to be transformed into public limited companies and that creates a problem in Denmark.
Udvalget om Økonomi, Valutaspørgsmål og Industripolitik har foreslået type II, variant a, og jeg har som ordfører, selv om jeg egentlig personligt ikke er enig i, at man lader et eksisterende udvalgs grundlag blive ændret, og således egentlig skulle være for type III, variant b, tilladt, at der kom et mundtligt ændringsforslag om type II, variant b, i Retsudvalget.
In cooperative societies members' loans may be included in calculating the assets of a credit institution and it is clear that that is not possible with a public limited company.
Det finder De nu i Retsudvalgets betænkning.
amending the Own Funds Directive.
Vi har således haft dem alle fire: type III, variant a fra Kommissionen, type III, variant b, hvilket det ifølge Rådet nok skal være, type II, variant a fra Økonomiudvalget og type II, variant b fra Retsudvalget: komitologiens rigdom i alle sine afskygninger.
A key element in the proposal relates to the facility for Danish mortgage credit institutions to include part of the joint and several commitments as own funds after their conversion to public limited companies. A time limit is proposed : the arrangement would cease at the end of the year 2000.
Vi vil gerne i morgen overlade det til Parlamentet at indtage en holdning.
A major criterion of the Commission proposal is that competition between credit institutions should not be distorted.
Janssen van Raay (PPE), ordfører. — (NL) Fru formand, Kommissionens forslag vedrører en ændring af et direktiv af 17. april 1989 om kreditinstitutters egenkapital. Hvor kommer denne ændring fra?
The Danish government has asked the Commission to introduce a transitional period and the gist of the Commission's proposal is to agree to this request and include a new Article 4a in the existing directive granting this transitional period.
Den er af særlig interesse for vore danske kolleger, fordi den danske regering tilskynder, at andelskreditinstitutter omdannes til aktieselskaber, og her opstår der et problem i Danmark.
It is halfway between the two views and I would ask for understanding on the one hand from our Danish colleagues that we do not completely accept the Commission proposal and are therefore not so magnanimous, and on the other hand from the interested parties that we do not refuse the Danes any transitional period at all.
Ved andelskreditinstitutter og lignende organisationer må medlemmernes lån tælles med i kreditinstituttets kapital, og det er klart, at denne mulighed bortfalder ved et aktieselskab.
That is why I also expect understanding from my Danish colleagues.
Den danske regering har bedt Kommissionen om at indføre en overgangsordning, og hovedindholdet i Kommissionens forslag er at indvillige i denne anmodning og optage en ny artikel 4a i det eksisterende direktiv, hvori denne ordning tillades.
But another element in the picture is that the situation of the Danish mortgage credit institutions has deteriorated considerably since the Danish authorities negotiated the proposal with the Commission.
Vi har i Retsudvalget modtaget en række protester fra interesseorganisationer; jeg nævner ét eksempel fra kom missær Bangemanns land.
A sluggish economy, which has hit the building industry particularly hard, has caused a sharp drop in loans granted by the mortgage credit institutions and hence in their revenue.
Den tyske forening af Sparkassen har sagt: Hvorfor får danskerne en und tagelse, som ikke gælder for os? Jeg har som ord
At the same time new legal interpretations have narrowed the definition of the resources that can be included in the calculation of own funds.
Blak (S). — Fru formand, Kommissionen forelagde i sommer Rådet et forslag til direktiv om ændring af egenkapitaldirektivet.
The Commission has taken this opportunity to allow the existing Banking Committee to operate in the 1989 directive, which in itself is to be welcomed.
Et væsentligt element af for slaget vedrører danske realkreditinstitutters adgang til at indregne en solidarisk hæftelse i egenkapitalen efter en eventuel omdannelse til aktieselskab.
The Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and Industrial Policy has proposed 2A and I as rapporteur, although I personally disagree that an existing committee can basically change and I am therefore actually in favour of 3B, allowed an oral amendment to be put in the Legal Affairs Committee for 2B.
Der er tale om en tidsbegrænsning, en ordning, som udløber ved udgangen af år 2000.
You will find that in the report from the Legal Affairs Committee.
Det har været en væsentlig forudsætning for Kommissionens forslag, at konkurrencen mellem kreditinstitutterne ikke for vrides.
BLAK (S). — (DA) Madam President, in the summer the Commission presented a proposal to the Council
Det er derfor med en vis overraskelse og undren, at jeg konstaterer, at mine venner i Retsudvalget i den foreliggende indstilling anbefaler, at overgangsperioden forkortes med to år.
BRITTAN, Sir Leon, Vice-President of the Commission. — As one would expect, Mr Janssen van Raay has explained the nature of this very limited proposal with exemplary clarity. That is not a subject of controversy.
Og overraskelsen og forundringen stiger, når jeg ser udvalgets
There is therefore no need for me to go into it again in
Blak begrundelser: konkurrenceforvridning og risikobetragtninger. tragtninger.
We are talking about an extremely limited modification of the directive on own funds of credit institutions.
bør forlænges.
I cannot agree with Mr Blak that it should be extended.
På den anden side mener jeg, at en forkortelse af den ville fratage direktivet dets værdi.
On the other hand, I feel that to reduce it would deprive the directive of its value.
Jeg må bede Parlamentet om at acceptere, at perioden ikke er vilkårlig, men et resultat af omhyggelige drøftelser med de danske myndigheder om, hvad der virkehg er behov for til at opnå dette mål.
I must ask Parliament to accept that the period is not an arbitrary one, but results from careful discussions with the Danish authorities as to what really is needed in order to achieve this objective.
Ikke desto mindre vil jeg — da jeg ikke blot er ansvariig for finansinstitutter, men også for konkurrence — mildest talt ikke være entusiastisk, hvis det resulterede i konkurrenceforvridning.
None the less — as I am responsible not only for financial institutions but also for competition — if it resulted in a distortion in competition, I would, to put it mildly, be unenthusiastic.
På trods af de indsigelser, der meget forståeligt er blevet fremført i denne sag, bl.a. af de grunde, hr. Blak har givet, er dette ikke tilfældet.
In spite of the objections that have very understandably been levelled in this particular case, among other reasons for those given by Mr Blak, this is not the case.
Jeg håber, at Parlamentet under en fornyet overvejelse føler sig i stand til at følge dette kommissionsforslag.
I hope Parliament, on reconsideration, would feel able to go along with this Commission proposal.
Jeg vil gerne tilføje, at ændringsforslag nr. 2 til artikel 1, som forslår, at ordene »gennem overgangsforanstaltninger« tilføjes, egentUg ikke er nødvendigt, da det konkrete tids punkt allerede er specificeret.
I should like to add that Amendment No 2 to Article 1, which suggests the addition of the words 'as a transitional measure' is not really necessary because the actual date is already specified.
Med hensyn til komitologiforslagene har hr. Janssen van Raay og jeg været igennem dette ved adskilUge lejligheder.
Let me give you some examples. In Belgium: indirect discrimination in unemployment legislation, discrimination in exemptions from social security contributions; in Ireland: retroactive effect; Great Britain: several discriminatory conditions for the granting of a pension; Greece: retroactive effect, marriage allow ance, etc. ; the Netherlands, my own country, a great deal of indirect discrimination.
Det er måske ikke rimeügt at minde om den lejlighed, hvor han forelagde to forslag i forskelUge egenskaber. Alles holdning til dette er klar.
You only need to look at the Dutch government's bill for part-time work to see how women are being deprived of certain rights.
Det eneste, jeg kan sige, er, at Kommissionen ikke vil være tilfreds med mig, hvis jeg brugte dette som en mulighed for at fravige dens klassiske og sædvanUge holdning til støtte for type III, variant a, hvorfor jeg heUere må gøre det klart, at vi må holde fast ved det.
I am expecting a report on the situation in these two countries very soon.
Formanden. — Forhandhngen er afsluttet.
I would like to ask the Commission if they could tell me when to expect it.
Afstemningen finder sted i morgen kl. 17.30.
As to the committology proposals, Mr Janssen van Raay and I have been through this on several occasions.
Det er således forkert, når det anføres, at foranstaltningen er konkurrenceforvridende.
Perhaps it is not fair to recall the occasion when he put forward two proposals in different capacities.
Der er ikke tale om lempelser i forhold til gældende ret.
Every body's position on this is clear.
De danske realkreditinstitutters konkurrencesituation vil derfor ikke bUve forbedret med den foreslåede foranstaltning, men blot fastholdt uændret.
All I can say is that the Commission would not be pleased with me if I took this as an opportunity to depart from its classic and customary position in support of 3A, so I had better make it clear that we have to stick with that.
I den forbindelse må det erindres, at egenkapitaldirektivet allerede tillader indregning af soUdarisk hæftelse for foreninger og fonde.
Problems in the implementation or uncertainties as to the scope of the directive are only partly due to the shortcomings to which the Commission has already drawn attention.
Med til billedet hører også, at situationen for de danske realkreditinstitutter er forværret væsentligt, siden de danske myndigheder forhandlede for slaget med Kommissionen.
That was also the reason for proposing the so-called completion directive which accompanied by an opinion from Parliament has been waiting on the Council's table for attention since as long ago as 1988.
Afslutningsvis vil jeg nævne, at Det Økonomiske og Sociale Udvalg under henvisning til, at foranstaltningen er begrænset degressivt og midlertidigt, har godkendt forslaget.
I urgently appeal to the Commission to take up this issue again because it is not right that we have to turn to the Court every time we need help with the implementation.
A3-285/91) af Oomen-Ruijten for Udvalget om Kvinders Rettigheder om gennemførelsen af Rådets tredje direktiv om gradvis gennem førelse af princippet om Ugebehandling af mænd og kvinder med hensyn til social sikring (79/7/EØF af 19. december 1978).
A3285/91) by Mrs Oomen-Ruijten, on behalf of the Committee on Women's Rights, on the application of a third Council directive on the progressive implementation of the principle of equal treatment for men and women in matters of social security (79/7/EEC of 19 December 1978).
Det er ikke noget stridspunkt. Der er derfor ingen grund til, at jeg kommer ind på det igen i detaljer.
And the recent informal proposals and discussions in the Social Council have also caused much political excitement.
Vi taler om en yderst begrænset ændring af direktivet om kreditinstitutters egenkapital.
This centres round the financial consequences of the speed with which the principle, expressed in the directive or the Treaty, of equal treatment in pensions is put into practice.
Dette vedrører et meget begrænset antal danske realkreditinstitutter, som for øjeblikket er organiseret som andelsselskaber og er ved at bUve omdannet til aktieselskaber.
It is clear to me from the mountains of literature and studies that, following the Barber judgment, non-statutory pensions come first and foremost under Article 119 of the EEC Treaty.
Enhver overgangsperiode skal naturhgvis afspejle en balance.
Anyone who disputes that has not yet wakened up to reality.
Jeg selv og Kommissionen har undersøgt det nøje og mener, at den periode, der er foreslået i direktivet, er tilstrækkeUg til, at overgangen kan gennemføres på en rimeUg måde.
Secondly, even the Dutch government, the Dutch presidency, assumes in the memo on additional pensions, Document 22167, that Article 119 of the EEC Treaty is directly applicable to pensions.
Oomen-Ruijten (PPE), ordfører. — (NL) Fru for mand, Det Europæiske Fællesskab har betydet meget for kvinder.
OOMEN-RUIJTEN (PPE), rapporteur. — (NL) Madam President, the European Community has done a lot for women.
LigebehandUngen er navnlig ble vet gennemført gennem Kommissionens og Europa-Parlamentets bestræbelser.
Equal treatment for men and women has come about particularly through the efforts of the Commission and the European Parliament.
Det er også grunden til, at den nederlandske regering tirsdag i sidste uge i Rådet af socialministre lusket forsøgte at anvende artikel 119 i EØF-Traktaten, som ligebehandlingen hviler på, og det var på en negativ måde.
OOMEN-RUIJTEN the selfsame Dutch government tried sneakily last Tuesday in the Social Council to invoke Article 119 of the Treaty, but in a negative way.
Det glæder mig meget, at kraftig modstand fra Kommissionens side, og jeg nævner her kommissær Papandreou, men også fra en række medlemsstaters side har ført til, at forslaget til teksten med henblik på at anvende denne artikel 119 måtte trækkes tilbage.
I am very pleased that strong objections from the Commission, and Com missioner Papandreou in particular, as from several Member States led to the draft text on adapting Article 119 being withdrawn.
Ikke desto mindre har man i sidste uge, f.eks. i det nederland ske parlament, ladet mine nederlandske kolleger vedtage et forslag om, at den tilbagevirkende kraft, således som denne skulle være et resultat af artikel 119, ikke kan lade sig gøre.
Despite that the Dutch Parlia ment last week adopted a resolution refusing the retroactive effect which would result from Article 119.
Det er naturiigvis for vanvittigt!
Mr President, it is a crazy world!
Der vil således stadig være mange spørgsmål, som skal besvares.
A lot of questions have yet to be answered.
De behøver blot at se efter i den nederlandske regerings memorandum om deltidsarbejde for at se, hvordan kvinder nægtes navnlig visse rettigheder.
Do not forget that women make up half of the population in Europe and that they had put their hopes precisely in Europe.
Spanien og Portugal er endnu ikke undersøgt hverken af mig eller af Kommissionen.
They have now seen the specific consequences of that.
Jeg forventer derfor, at der for disse lande snart vil komme en oversigt over situationen.
It has shown that we have not gone far enough in the debate on social security and on the fundamental principles, namely that everyone has a right to work.
Jeg ville gerne spørge Kommissionen, om der kan gives en frist herfor.
We must work for a new approach to the principle of equality and translate this in practical terms in our social security regulations as in the whole of our legislation.
Jeg beder derfor Kommissionen: Læg nu kortene på bordet, og vil De venligst også på vore vegne, på Parlamentets vegne endnu en gang meddele i Rådet, at der skal øves retfærdighed, hvor retfærdighed eksisterer, og at Parlamentet er og fortsat vil være involveret i de juridiske og finansielle følger, som denne kendelse har for ligebehandlingen af mænd og kvinder.
That is why I ask the Commission to be open with us and speak up on behalf of this House in the Council to ensure that justice is properly done and that Parliament is consulted and will continue to be consulted on the legal and financial implications of this judgment on equal treatment of men and women.