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Om: Den amerikanske regerings optræden i modstrid med Esquipulas­aftalerne
The Council will take that into account.
Papoulias. — (GR) Jeg tror, at det ærede medlem gør sig skyldig i en fejltagelse, eller at han ikke er korrekt underrettet, for ellers kunne han ikke være uvidende om, at der på Cypern findes en tyrkisk styrke på 35 000 mand og 400 tanks.
PAPOULIAS. — (GR) I think the honourable Mem­ber is either making some mistake, or is not well informed, because otherwise he could not be unaware of the fact that in Cyprus there are 35 000 occupying troops and 400 tanks.
Grækenland opretholder i henhold til aftalerne en lille styrke på 800 mand.
On the basis of the Treaty, Greece maintains a small force of about 800 men.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 17 af Seeler (H­282/88)C):
PRESIDENT. — Question No 18, by Mr Arbeloa Muru(H-89/88/rev.):
Om: Krænkelse af menneskerettighederne i Malaysia
Question No 17, by Mr Seeler (H-
Finder Udenrigsministrene, at den i beslutningen beskrevne situation siden har udviklet sig i positiv retning?
Subject: US Government action against the Esquipulas agreements
I benægtende fald, hvad agter udenrigsministrene da yderligere al forelage sig?
Subject: Violation of human rights in Malaysia
Papoulias, formand for Udenrigsministrene. — (GR) De Tolv's holdning vedrørende de principper, der skal ligge til baggrund for enhver løsning på det mel­lemamerikanske problem, er velkendt.
What action have the Foreign Ministers taken on the resolution adopted by Parliament on 19 Nov­ember 1987 (Docs Β 2-1284/87, Β 2-1895/87 and Β 2-1335/87) pursuant to Rule 58(5) of the Rules of Procedure on the violation of human rights in Malaysia?
C) Tidligere mundtlig forespørgsel (0­5/88) ændret til spørgsmål til Spørgetiden.
Former Oral Question 0-5/88 transformed into a ques­tion for Question Time.
Jeg stillede Dem et spørgsmål om denne kon krete situation.
In the context of constant change in many countries of southern Africa and North America, as indeed throughout the world, the government of the Republic of South Africa really has to go for change instead of verbal adroitness and a policy of putting off the real problems to some other time.
Spørgsmålet er allerede forældet, for jeg spurgte: »Hvorledes agter Udenrigsministrene at protestere?« Nu spørger jeg formanden: Hvorledes har Ministrene i Det Politiske Samarbejde protesteret over for denne konkrete handling fra De Forenede Staters side?
The prospect should now be one of a non-racial democracy, the repeal of laws such as the Group Areas Act and the Race Classification Act — which South Africa managed to live without before 1948 — the immediate liberation of political prisoners, particularly Nelson Mandela, and an end to the state of emergency and the restrictions on freedom of information and association.
Hvis dialogen med det sorte befolkningsflertal skal være seriøs og værdig, kan der hverken være tale om pyntelig power sharing eller om det. som den afgående formand for Sydafrikas Føderalistiske Parti kaldte cooptire domination, en fidus, der udstrækker den nuværende magt til at omfatte ikke-hvide lydige hjælpere.
ARBELOA MURU (S). — (ES) I was referring to a specific event involving intervention by the United States into what the Hondurans themselves called 'the State of Honduras' which did not exist at that time.
Gøres der ikke hurtige fremskridt uden tvetydighed i så henseende, vil den eneste vej for mange demokrater i Europa og andetsteds være streng gen nemførelse af beslutninger som f. eks. den.
I was asking about that specific action. However, the question is now out of date because it originally said, 'What protests do they propose to make?'.
Parlamentet i øjeblikket beskæftiger sig med. indtil situationen ændrer sig, så man kan give afkald derpå.
I am now asking, Mr President, what protests did the Ministers responsible for political cooperation make with regard to that specific action by the United States?
Papoulias. — (GR) De Tolv's initiativer og beslutninger med henblik på en fredelig og holdbar løsning på problemet i Centralamerika er velkendte, og jeg tror, at de beslutninger, som De Tolv traf i Hamburg, klart viser, i hvor høj grad De Tolv beskæftiger sig med det mellemamerikanske problem.
PAPOULIAS. — (GR) The honourable Member must be aware of the wellknown efforts and decisions by the Twelve to find a peaceful and viable solution to the problem of Central America. And I think the most recent position adopted by the Twelve in Hamburg is a clear indication of how much the Central American problem exercises the Twelve.
Jeg vil gerne bekræfte over for det ærede medlem, at De Tolv også under det græske formandskab direkte og energisk vil beskæftige sig med dette problem.
I wish to assure the honourable Member that during the tenure of the Greek Presidency, the Twelve will continue to show direct and active interest at all time.
Hr. formand, dersom Fællesskabets medlemsstater og De Tolv's Europæiske Politiske Samarbejde skulle svigte, som det fortsat i vidt omfang er tilfældet, må den udenomsparlamentariske aktions omfang forøges, indtil den bliver uimodståelig, og indtil den politiske magts positioner bliver klare.
In the absence of any rapid and unambiguous steps in this direction, the only way forward for many democrats, in Europe and elsewhere, will be the strict application of resolutions — such as the one the House has before it — until the situation changes and we can give it up.
Formanden. — Første del af Spørgetiden er af sluttet.
The first part of Question Time is
Sydafrika (Fortsættelse)
South Africa (continuation)
Wurtz (COM). — (FR) Hr. formand, det er over sytten år siden, at De Forenede Nationer betegnede apartheid som en forbrydelse mod menneskeheden.
WURTZ (COM). — (FR) Mr President, it is more than 17 years since the United Nations said apartheid was a crime against humanity.
Denne enkle henvisning viser, hvor urimeligt det er. at vi, for jeg ved ikke hvilken gang. skal have en for handling i Parlamentet for at anmode Fællesskabet om at bidrage til at sætte Pretorias racistiske regime ud af stand til at skade.
This simple reminder is all it takes to show how wrong it is for us to have to organize yet another debate in this House to get the Community to help ensure that the racialist régime in Pretoria can no longer do any harm.
Glinne (S). — (FR) Kære kolleger, guvernør Dukakis, som er Det Demokratiske Paris kandidat ved De Forenede Staters præsidentvalg, meddelte for nylig, at Den Sydafrikanske Republik, dersom han vinder, som mange af os her håber, vil blive sat på listen over terroristiske stater på grund af apartheid og den af Pretoria mod nabolandene praktiserede destabiliseringspolitik.
GLINNE (S). — (FR) Ladies and gentlemen, Governor Dukakis, who is the Democratic Party candidate in the American presidential elections, recently announced that if he wins, as many of us in this House hope he does, the Republic of South Africa will be added to the list of terrorist countries because of apartheid and the policy of destabilization which Pre toria pursues against its neighbours.
Under det møde, som Europa-Parlamentets delegation havde i forrige uge i Washington og Minneapolis med De Forenede Staters Kongres oplyste meget ind flydelsesrige og beslutsomme medlemmer, at den amerikanske lovgivningsmagt var i færd med at udarbejde en ny anti-apartheid-lov.
During last week's meeting between the European Parliament delegation and the US Congress in Washington and Minneapolis, very influential and determined colleagues told us that a second anti-apartheid
Opmuntret af så megen slaphed nøjes Pretoria for øvrigt ikke længere med at hengive sig til statsterrorisme i området.
What degree of bestiality does this Nazi power have to reach to overcome the egoism of the leaders of Community Europe?
For tre måneder siden blev ANC-ledersken Dulcy September skudt midt i Paris af apartheids mordere. re.
Do thousands more innocent men and women have to be added to the list of victims of repression?
I denne forbindelse udvikler verdensopinionen sig med stormskridt.
Do dozens of young people, including the Sharpeville Six, have to be executed?
For fire eller fem år siden var der næppe ud over de indviede nogen i vesten, der kendte Nelson Mandela.
Does Nelson Mandela have to spend his 75th birthday in prison or even die there before the governments of the Twelve and the Commission say enough is enough?
I dag udløser Wembley-koncerten i nærværelsen af ANC-formandcn Oliver Tambo, der
Particularly since, even outside South Africa, the people of Namibia, which is occupied, of Angola, which is the
Wurtz afholdtes til ære for verdens ældste politiske tilfangetagne, som symboliserer bekæmpelsen af apartheid, en storm af solidaritet fra millioner af mennesker i alle verdensdele.
In fact they pose the same problem, though seen from different angles, namely that of the usefulness and efficacy of measures against South Africa in view of the aims we all desire to pursue.
menneskelige værdighed er og bør være vore højeste prioriteringer.
Four or five years ago, it was really only the initiated in the West who had heard the name of Nelson Man dela.
For at opnå ovennævnte har De Tolv allerede siden 1985 fulgt en politik, som skal overtale og presse styret, en politik, som blev erklæret ved minister-trojkaens besøg i Pretoria og den daværende formands bcsog i det andet halvår af 1986.
To achieve all this, since 1985 the Twelve have been following a policy of persuasion and pressure which was expressed by the visit to Pretoria of the ministerial 'troika', and by the visit of the President-in-Office during the latter half of 1986.
Endvidere har man lagt pres på de sydafrikanske myndigheder med en hel række forespørgsler og anvendt konkrete foranstaltninger, såvel positive som restriktive.
Also, by numerous and pressing approaches to the South African authorities and by specific measures, both positive and restrictive.
Hvilken vej er der ikke tilbagelagt?
What a lot of ground has been covered!
Og hvor står så Fælllesskabet?
And where is the Community in all this?
Det vedtog i 1985-1986 en minisanktionsplan. Jeg gør opmærksom på, at sanktionerne kun ramte 3.2% af fællesskabssamhandelen med Den Sydafrikanske Republik.
In 1985-86 it adopted a set of mini-sanctions — and I should like to remind you that they only affected 3.2% of the Community's trade with South Africa.
De lå som sagt langt under de af Den Amerikanske Kongres trufne foranstaltninger for slet ikke at tale om de af andre vestlige stater som Canada besluttede sanktioner.
They are, it has been said, far behind the measures the American Congress has brought in — not to mention the sanctions which other countries of the West, Canada for example, have taken.
Men uanset deres beskedenhed gennemførtes fællesskabssanktionerne dårligt nok.
And although they were modest, the Community sanctions were not really applied.
De tilsidesattes, omgikkes, ja ignoreredes, da flertallet af medlemsstaterne ikke traf de nødvendige lovgivningsmæssige foranstaltninger.
They were violated, twisted and sometimes ignored, as the major ity of the Member States failed to take the legislative decisions needed to enforce them.
Jeg vil først komme ind på de restriktive foranstaltninger, hvor jeg kan oplyse Dem om. at de som hel hed er blevet gennemført på det strengeste på alle områder.
Let me first speak about the restrictive measures, to tell you that taken together, they have been strictly implemented in every sector.
Vi har foretaget en grundig vurdering af effekten af disse foranstaltniger. På grundlag af de oplysninger, vi har haft til rådighed indtil nu. har De Tolv konstateret, at deres foranstaltninger har haft den forventede effekt.
We undertook an in-depth survey of their repercussions, and on the basis of the information so far at hand, the Twelve have noted that their measures have brought the . expected reaction.
Med hensyn til de politiske resultater vil jeg blot påpege, at disse foranstaltninger frem for alt er udtryk for vor beslutsomhed.
As for their political results, let me just say that these measures constitute above all a demonstration of our determination.
De bevarer således al deres gyldighed.
Thus, they retain their full validity.
De Tolv lod forstå, at der var tale om en forste række foranstaltninger, som skulle efterfølges af andre, der som forholdene i Sydafrika ikke forbedredes.
The Twelve had let it be thought that these were the first steps and that other measures would follow if the situation in South Africa didn't improve.
Men forholdene forbedredes ikke, tværtimod.
Well, it hasn't improved. Far from it.
Pretoria går så vidt som til at lukke for transporten af vor hjælp til anti-apartheid-organisationerne.
Pretoria has gone so far as to block our aid to the anti-apartheid organizations.
Hvad er realiteten dernede?
What is really going on out there?
Og hvordan riposterer man her?
And what answer did we give?
Hannover, altså et fingerknips.
It came from Hanover — just a little gesture. ture.
1200 europæiske virksomheder fortsætter i henhold til en FFI-rap-port med at gøre gode forretninger i apartheids land.
There are 1 200 European firms, one CISL report suggests, still doing good business in the land of apartheid.
Sydafrikas og Namibias uran ankommer fortsat i vore havne.
Uranium from South Africa and Namibia is still arriving in our ports.
Og endelig har Sydafrika takket være et især i Frankrig og Belgien velsmurt system udviklet et militært atomprogram, således at landet i dag råder over nok plutonium til at fremstille mellem femten og tyve atombomber.
And lastly, thanks to a well-oiled system of collusion, in France and Belgium especially, South Africa has developed a military nuclear programme and today has enough plutonium to make 15 or 20 atomic bombs.
Vort program af positive foranstaltninger, som er di rekte henvendt til apartheid-ofrene, har stor politisk og moralsk værdi for De Tolv og Fællesskabet.
Our programme of positive measures, directly aimed at the victims of apartheid, has great political and moral value for the Twelve and the Community.
Den sydafrikanske regering ved udmærket, hvilken betydning vi tillægger dette.
The South African Government knows full well the importance we place on its smooth operation.
Det Europæiske Råd. som re præsenterer vort højeste politiske plan. bekræftede den 28. juni i Hannover, at hvis den planlagte lov træder i kraft, som sigter mod at afskære de anti-apartheid-organisationer, som kæmper for fredelige ændringer, fra den økonomiske støtte fra udlandet, vil dette be tyde en yderligere belastning af forholdet mellem De Tolv og Sydafrika.
The Council of Europe, which represents our highest political level, confirmed in Hanover on 28 June that if the draft statute aiming to deprive organizations opposed to apartheid, which are striving for peaceful change, of economic aid from abroad were to become law, this would place even greater stress on relations between the Twelve and South Africa.
Samtidig overvåger De Tolv nøje anvendelsen af adfærdskodeksen fra de fællesskabs virksomheders side, som har datterselskaber i Syd afrika.
In parallel the Twelve are meticulously monitoring the application of the code of behaviour by Community companies with sub sidiaries in South Africa.
Det er, hvor vi står.
That is the point we have reached.
Det er på høje tid at skifte kurs.
It is high time to take a different tack.
De forestående forhandlinger om den nye EØF-AVS-konvention bør være anledningen dertil.
The forthcoming opening of negotiations for the next ACP-EEC Convention could be the opportunity for it.
Fællesskabet vil vinde i anseelse langt ud over den store umiddelbare betydning af foranstaltningerne, dersom det reagerede på afrikanernes appel ved på Den Paritetiske Forsamlings septembermøde at bekendtgøre sin be slutning om i Lomé IV at medtage en konkret forpligtelse til at tage sanktioner, der står på højde med per manent forbrydelse mod menneskeheden.
The Community's stature would improve if it responded to the appeal of our African partners by going to the Joint Assembly in September and announcing that Lomé IV would
Papoulias, formand for Udenrigsministrene. — (GR) Jeg vil tillade mig at give et samlet svar på de fire mundtlige forespørgsler, som vedrører Sydafrika.
I would like to reassure you that the code is an important instrument of our policy which aims to eliminate completely any policy of discrimination in the economic and social sectors.
De Tolv kender Europa-Parlamentets synspunkter, som blev fremsat i dets beslutning af 10. juli 1988.
The last annual constitutional report on the application of the code was put before you in February 1988.
Papoulias hele det sydafrikanske område.
The Twelve are aware of the positions expressed by the European Parliament in its decision of 10 July 1986.
På baggrund heraf vil jeg gerne fremsætte følgende bemærkninger og stille visse spørgsmål.
In that context the Hanover Council noted with great disquiet that relations between the Twelve and South Africa are in danger of deteriorat­ing still further.
Som De ser. er situationen i Sydafrika i særlig grad genstand for vor bekymring, og det er et spørgsmål, som vi undersøger meget nøje.
In that connection it made a pressing appeal for all available legitimate procedures in South Africa to be used, including if necessary the granting of a pardon by President Botha, to prevent the execu­tion of the Sharpeville Six.
Det eneste, vi bekym­rer os om, er iværksættelsen af foranstaltninger, som vil være virkelig effektive med henblik på opfyldelsen af de mål, vi har sat.
It also appealed to the South African authorities for the immediate release of Nelson Mandela, whose 70th birthday falls on 18 July, and of all other political prisoners as well.
Det må derfor være slut med at fremstille sanktioner som uanvende­lige midler, som repræsentanter for Forbundsregerin­gen og Storbritannien såvel som visse kolleger gang på gang gør. Rådet bør tilbagevise dette.
Our only concern is to set in motion such measures as will prove truly effective in achieving the aims we desire.
Som afslutning på forhandlingen om de mundtlige forespørgsler om Sydafrika har jeg modtaget følgende forslag til beslutning med anmodning om afstemning snarest muligt:
From that I conclude that the EC must redefine its South Africa policy vis­à­vis Pretoria and the SADECC States if it wants to retain its ability to act in the territory of South Africa as a whole.
Mit spørgsmål lyder: Vil det græske formandskab forsvare fællesskabsforanstaltningerne i denne ret­
I have received the following motions for resolutions with request for an early vote to wind up the debate on the oral questions on South Africa:
Β 2­514/88 af Veil m. fl. for Den Liberale og Demokratiske Gruppe om Sydafrika:
Β 2­514/88 by Mrs Veil and others, on behalf of the Liberal and Democratic Reformist Group, on South Africa
B2­517/88 af Telkämper for Regnbuegrup­pen (GRAEL) om Sydafrika;
Β 2­517/88 by MrTelkämper, on behalf of the Rainbow Group, (Grael), on South Africa;
B 2­518/88 af Cervetti m. fl. for Gruppen af Kommunister og Beslægtede om Sydafrika;
Β 2­518/88 by Mr Cervetti and others, on behalf of the Communist and Allies Group, on South Africa;
B2­550/88 af Prag og Sir Peter Vanneck for Den Europæiske Demokratiske Gruppe om situa­tionen i Sydafrika;
Β 2­550/88 by Mr Prag and Sir Peter Van­neck, on behalf of the European Democratic Group, on the situation in South Africa;
B2­565/88 af Glinne m. fl. for Den Sociali­stiske Gruppe om om foranstaltninger over for Sydafrika;
Β 2­565/88 by Mr Glinne and others, on behalf of the Socialist Group, on measures to be taken in respect of South Africa;
For det andet: Jeg anser det for at være betænkeligt at bebude en skærpelse af foranstaltningerne blot i til­fælde af, at pengehjælpen fra EF forbydes, befolknin­gen i bydistriktet Okasi med magt flyttes til Lethlabe­le og de seks fra Sharpeville henrettes den 19. juli.
Secondly, I think it is risky to announce that more stringent measures will be taken only in the event that EC financial aid is prohibited, the inhabitants of the Okasi township are forcibly resettled in Lethabele and the Sharpeville Six are executed on 19 July.
Inden dette sker. bør der fastsættes retningslinjer, f. eks. gennem diplomatiske sanktioner såsom indfo­relse af visumpligt for sydafrikanere, nedskæring af antallet af ambassader eller et forbud mod flytrafik mellem Sydafrika og Fællesskabet.
Before that happens we should signal our intention, for exam­ple by diplomatic sanctions such as introducing a visa requirement for South Africans, reducing the number of embassies or banning air traffic between South Africa and the Community.
Det tyske for­mandskab har her ladt os i stikken.
The German Presidency of the Council left us in the lurch here.
B2­570/88 af Penders m.fl. for Det Euro­pæiske Folkepartis Gruppe om den seneste udvik­ling i Sydafrika.
Β 2­570/88 by Mr Penders and others, on behalf of the Group of the European People's Party, on recent developments in the situation in South Africa.
Anmodningen om afstemning snarest muligt finder sted ved forhandlingens afslutning.
The request for an early vote will be put to the vote at the end of the debate.
Simons (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, når vi her taler om Det Europæiske Fællesskabs bidrag til at gøre en ende på apartheid, gør vi det ikke blot af politisk­etiske grunde, men hovedsagelig fordi det her drejer sig om en aftalt, bindende fællesskabspolitik til bekæmpelse af apartheid, som kommer til udtryk gennem sanktio­ner, gennem støtte til de undertrykte og gennem et øget samarbejde med SADCC­staterne.
SIMONS (S). — (DE) Mr President, when we discuss how the European Community can contribute to over­coming apartheid, we do so not just on political and
Kan en sådan koordi­nation eksempelvis etableres gennem en kontaktgrup­pe, som det blev krævet af Den Socialistiske Gruppe?
So I am asking the Greek Presidency: will you advo­cate these measures now and if necessary carry them through against the wishes of all the other Member States?
Jeg har opmærksomt fulgt rådsformandens udtalelser i dag vedrørende Sydafrika­spørgsmålet, og jeg håber, at der hermed begynder en ny fase med en mere
Parliament and the Joint Assembly have also been calling for a long time for further­reaching mea­sures, ranging from a ban on coal imports to a ban on nuclear cooperation and a ban on imports of all South African minerals.
lovligt valgt, så vil vi fortsat se på reformprogrammet med betydelig skepsis.
In this connection my question is as follows: To what extent is the political will of our Parliament binding for the Council?
For det andet vil vi gerne påpege, at terroraktioner som den, hvorved to mennesker omkom, og tres blev såret uden for rugby-stadionet ved Ellis Park sidste weekend, absolut ikke styrker ANC's krav om at blive taget alvorligt som en mulig politisk forhandlingspartner.
In the second place, we would like to point out that terrorist outrages of the kind that killed two people and wounded 60 outside the Ellis Park Rugby Football Ground over the weekend do nothing to enhance the African National Congress's claims to be taken ser iously as a possible political partner.
Vi mener, at hvis ANC skal betagtes som en seriøs samtalepartner, så må de én gang for alle tage afstand fra den slags barbariske handlinger, der er ret tet mod uskyldige civile.
We believe that if the ANC is to be taken as a serious interlocutor it must disassociate once and for all from that kind of outrage which is directed at civilians and innocent people.
Indtil de gør det. vil det blive særdeles vanskeligt for den sydafrikanske regering at tage dem alvorligt.
Until they do that it is going to be very difficult indeed for the South African Government to take them seriously.
O'Malley (PPE). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne henlede opmærksomheden på en bestemt sag.
O'MALLEY (PPE). — Mr President, I wish to high light one particular point.
Det er lidt ironisk, at vi igen i dag skal diskutere sanktioner, når en del af selve Fællesskabets budget faktisk støtter handel med Sydafrika.
It is a bit ironic to be dis cussing sanctions yet again today when some of the Community budget is itself actually subsidizing trade with South Africa.