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Derfor vil jeg gerne sige til mine kolleger: Bibelen blev citeret her i går aftes: »Den iblandt Eder, som er uden sind, kaste den første sten«.
So what I would say to my colleagues is this. We had the Bible quoted at us last night : 'Let he who is without sin among you, cast the first stone'.
Vor Labour-venner må være lidt mere forsigtige, end de har været i dette tilfælde.
Our Labour friends need to be a little more careful than they have been about that.
De blev taget med hænderne nede i pengeskuffen, og resultatet er, at Kommissionen er meget taknemmelig for, at de er villige til at give pengene tilbage!
I shall answer the questions which Mr Ford has put when he is giving me his attention once again.
Ønsker vi ikke alle de samme privilegier i vort privatliv?
Perhaps I can now recapitulate what I was saying.
Hvad man kan finde frem til i pressen, må en sagsbearbejder i Kommissionen egentlig også kunne finde frem til.
We at once set about examining these additional amounts and in the process required the sums I mentioned to be returned.
Der har her været tale om, at det var en under cover deal.
It seems to me we do not as yet have the answer as to where we lie between those two options.
Jeg ved ikke, om Parlamentet gør klogt i at gå så vidt.
At best we have a situation where we are condoning white collar crime, as Mrs Read has said.
Kommissionen bliver ved med at fortælle os, hvor vigtigt det er at opbygge en europæisk industripolitik, hvis vi skal konkurrere med Japan og med De Forenede Stater, og hvis Europa skal have den højteknologiske fremtid, som vi behøver.
The Commission keeps telling us how important it is to build a European industrial policy if we are going to compete with Japan and with the United States and if Europe is going to have the high technology future that we need.
Det, der rent faktisk sker her, er, at vi tillader, at denne fremtid ødelægges som følge af den britiske regerings måde at føre politik på i Europa.
What is actually happening here is that we are allowing that future to be destroyed by the British Government's way of conducting politics in Europe.
Vi tillader, at perspektiverne for opbygning af et europæisk industrielt grundlag ødelægges, fordi vi ikke ønsker at bringe Sir Leon Brittans regering i forlegenhed.
We are allowing the prospects of building a European industrial base to be destroyed because we do not want to embarrass the government of Sir Leon Brittan.
Vi kan kun være skuffet over, at Kommissionen har forrådt sin sag og rent faktisk bringer hele Europas fremtid i fare.
We can only be disappointed that the Commission has sold the pass on this matter and is threatening the whole of Europe's future.
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Mr Ford asked this, and others in the debate too.
Den officielle straf har været yderst mild.
We did this in the steel sector, where we had laid down production quotas.
Britisk indenrigspolitik må komme ind i billedet her, for det, der sker, er en trussel for Europas fremtid.
When certain undertakings failed to keep to these quotas, we imposed quite substantial fines in some cases.
Jeg håber, at Kommissionen erkender, at hvis den indtager en svag position i denne sag, bringer vi hele den europæiske industrielle fremtid i fare, da andre med rette vil forvente de samme muligheder for at omgå reglerne i egen interesse.
I wonder what the British House of Commons would say if we demanded the option of dismissing the entire government or calling individual ministers to account before the European Court of Justice. That would rightly be seen on all sides as an infringement of national sovereignty that was unnecessary for the purpose of protecting the European Community and taxpayers' money.
Denne mulighed har vi imidlertid ikke over for en regering, jeg gad nok vide, hvad det britiske underhus ville sige, hvis vi krævede, at vi fik mulighed for enten at afskedige hele regeringen eller at stævne enkelte ministre for EF-Domstolen.
British domestic politics must enter into here afraid because what it is doing is threatening the future of Europe.
Dette ville uden tvivl og med rette blive betragtet som et indgreb i den nationale suverænitet, som ikke er nødvendig for at beskytte Det Europæiske Fælles skab og skatteydernes penge.
I hope the Commission recognizes that by being weak-kneed in this matter, we are actually endangering the whole European industrial future because others rightly will expect the same opportunities to bend and twist the rules in their own interests.
Det er rigtigt, at der her er tale om britiske skatteyderes penge, men det kan naturligvis ikke forhindre os i også at kræve tilbagebetaling af disse beløb.
It is true that British taxpayers' money is involved here, but naturally that cannot prevent us requiring repay ment of the sums in question.
Men flere muligheder har vi ikke.
We do not have any further options, however.
Vi kan ikke handle anderledes over for en medlemsstats regering.
We cannot proceed in any other way against the government of a Member State.
At vi udtrykker os lidt mere høfligt eller — lad os sige — lidt mindre klart end fru Read, det vil man sikkert kunne forstå.
Perhaps you can understand too that we express ourselves rather more politely in this context, or should I say less plainly than Mrs Read.
Det hører nu engang til international sæd og skik, at man af parlamentsmedlem mer forventer, at de taler et klart sprog, og af kommissærer, at de udtrykker sig høfligt, hvilket jeg i øvrigt også undertiden har svært med.
It is the denething in every country that lady Members of Parliament are expected to speak plainly and Commissioners to express themselves politely, something I have difficulty with on occasion.
Bangemann, næstformand i Kommissionen. — (DE) Jeg vil først komme ind på spørgsmålet om, hvorledes Parlamentet selv blev informeret.
BANGEMANN, Vice-President of the Commission. — (DE) I should first like to address the question of how Parliament itself has been kept informed.
De vil naturlig vis kunne forstå, at vi kun kan videregive informationer, som vi selv sidder inde med, til Parlamentet.
You will of course appreciate that we can only pass on to Parliament information that we possess ourselves.
Jeg sagde jo helt klart i min redegørelse, at de yderligere subventioner, som jeg nævnte, ikke var os bekendt.
In my statement, I made it very clear that we were not aware of the additional aids that I listed.
Og jeg må desværre også sige til hr. Rogalla, at de indtil det tidspunkt heller ikke var kendt i pressen, da den britiske revisionsret foretog en revision af alle transaktionerne og anførte disse nye, ukendte subventioner i en rapport.
And I am afraid I have to say to Mr Rogalla that the press did not know of them either until the British audit authorities carried
Inden sagen blev offentliggjort i pressen, gav Sir Leon en redegørelse herom i et af Parlamentets udvalg, jeg husker ikke mere hvilket, men det var sandsynligvis Økonomi- og Valutaudvalget.
As I clearly said, we were not informed of these additional aids, and that is not an approach we like to see used in the dealings we have with governments.
Jeg har sagt det helt klart: Vi blev ikke informeret om disse yderligere subventioner, og sådan ønsker vi ikke, at vore forbindelser med de nationale regeringer skal være.
BANGEMANN meeting the present British Minister of Industry and Trade to insist that all the conditions that were laid down in the two different Commission decisions should be binding on the British Government in its future behaviour. So there is no negotiation whatsoever.
Derfor har der heller ikke været tale om en under cover deal, absolut ikke.
We do hope, and we are quite sure now, that the British Government has understood our position.
Vi har nøje undersøgt, hvorledes det forholdt sig med den oprindelige sum, og vi har konstateret, et der var fire vurderinger.
Consequently there has been no undercover deal, absolutely not.
Den britiske regerings officielle vurdering, en ikke-officiel privat vurdering af firmaet Ford, som også vart interesseret i overtagelsen, en banks vurdering og endelig vor egen undersøgelse. Alle disse beløb ligget meget tæt på hinanden.
As far as the original sum is concerned, we investigated and established very precisely that there were four valuations: the official one by the British Government, an unofficial, private one by the Ford company, which was also interested in the takeover, a valuation by a bank, and our own subsequent review.
Der er afgivelser på op til 10 eller 12 mio. pund, men det er uden tvivl i betragtning af det samlede beløb på 150 mio. pund en margen, som kan accepteres som en vurderingsmargen.
They differ on occasion by 10 or 12 million pounds, but given the overall sum of 150 million pounds, that is certainly an acceptable margin of valuation.
Vi var jo nødt til at vurdere.
We had to estimate, after all.
Det spørgsmål, som hr. Ford har stillet, vil jeg besvare, når han hører efter.
We were faced with the fact that a single, exclusive offer was involved.
Jeg vil gerne kort sammenfatte, hvad jeg allerede har sagt.
However, we did not want to press — which we could not in any case legally have done — for other offers to be sought through an open tendering procedure, since that had already been tried with Rover in the past, with disastrous results on the company's market share.
Når De stiller spørgsmål, så er jeg naturligvis interesseret i, at De også hører på mine svar, for så behøver De jo ikke at stille flere spørgsmål til mig for fremtiden.
It always has to be considered too what effects there could be on the employment situation.
Da vi havde fået tilsendt denne rapport fra den britiske revisionsret, informerede vi straks Parlamentet.
ROGALLA (S). — (DE) Mr President, to clarify my relations with Mr Bangemann, I do need to come back once again.
Vi begyndte straks at undersøge disse yderligere beløb, der var blevet givet, og kræve de beløb, som jeg nævnte, tilbagebetalt.
In his statement, if I understood correctly, he said that reports had appeared in the press in 1989, and that these press reports had prompted the Commission into action.
Vi blev konfronteret med det forhold, at der var tale om et eksklusivt tilbud. Men vi ville ikke insistere på — hvad vi i øvrigt rent juridisk heller ikke havde mulighed for — et der også blev indhentet andre tilbud i en åben licitation, for det havde man allerede praktiseret én gang med en katastrofal virkning med hensyn til Rovers markedsandel.
If this is not correct, I should like to know whether this report by the British audit authorities appeared first, and then the reports in the press, or vice versa.
Man må også tage hensyn til virkningerne på beskæftigelsessituationen. sessituationen.
That was very important to my appreciation of the matter, and I think the Commission's account was lacking in clarity on this point.
Vi er således i det store og hele indforstået med vurderingerne, og vi så ikke nogen anledning til at korrigere det oprindelige beløb. Men vi krævede som sagt de oprindelige pengebeløb tilbagebetalt, og det brutto, hr. Rogalla.
PATTERSON (ED). — Mr President, on a point of order, a number of Members opposite have criticized Sir Leon Brittan for not being present today.
Dette er også i overensstemmelse med vores almindelige beregningsgrundlag.
I would ask them to look at the Minutes for Monday of this week when we adopted our agenda.
Det vil sige, at vi helt lader skattemæssige virkninger ude af betragtning og kræver bruttobeløbene tilbage betalt, fordi dette er det eneste fornuftige grundlag, nar man vil behandle sådanne ting i Fællesskabet.
You will find that when we adopted our agenda, according to the Rules, there was no mention of this item being on the agenda, and certainly not of a debate.
Nu spørger man så: Ja, men hvorfor har De ikke gjort mere? Det har hr. Ford og andre spurgt om.
We are therefore by and large in agreement with the valuations, and had no reason to modify the original amount.
Når en privat virksomhed overtræder Fællesskabets konkurrence bestemmelser, så kræves der ikke blot tilbagebetaling af de beløb, der har været tale om, men vi pålægger også disse virksomheder en bøde.
In other words, we are leaving tax effects entirely out of consideration and are requiring the return of the gross amounts, because that is the only sensible way to proceed if one is to treat such matters on a common basis.
Bangemann af salen har kritiseret Sir Leon Brittan for ikke at være til stede i dag.
If they had really wished the Commissioner to be present, would it not have been better to follow the Rules of Procedure and put the matter on the agenda then ?
Jeg vil bede se på protokollen fra mandag i denne uge, hvor vi godkendte vor dagsorden.
I suspect there has been some sharp practice on the part of members of the British Labour group, of slipping this in unnoticed, and it is an abuse of the Rules of Procedure.
De vil se, at da vi godkendte vor forretningsorden i overensstemmelse med forretningsordenen, var der ikke tale om, at dette punkt stod opført, og da slet ikke en forhandling.
I cannot see how they can blame Commissioner Sir Leon Brittan for not being present.
Jeg tror altså ikke, at De har grund til at rette bebrejdelser mod Kommissionen i dette anliggende, og jeg beder Dem også om at have forståelse for, at Sir Leon ikke er til stede i dag.
So I do not think that in this affair you can criticise the Commission, and I would also ask you to appreciate why Sir Leon is not here today.
Som De ved, havde Det Udvidede Præsidium i sidste uge ikke sat denne redegørelse fra Kommissionen på dagsordenen, og dette spørgsmål kom først på dagsordenen efter en energisk indsats fra den dynamiske næstformand for Den Socialistiske Gruppe, hr. Ford, og min beredvillighed.
You know that last week the enlarged Bureau did not include this statement by the Commission in the agenda, and that the item was only placed on the agenda as a result of vigorous intervention by the dynamic vicechairman of the Socialist Group, Mr Ford, and with my own agreement.
Sir Leon kan virkelig ikke være til stede, og derfor, fru Read, må jeg bede Dem om at tage til takke med et mindre intelligent og mindre flot medlem af Kommissionen.
Sir Leon is genuinely committed elsewhere and so, Mrs Read, I would ask you to be content with a less intelligent and less good-looking Member of the Commission.
Det er nu engang min rolle at være libero, og jeg gør mit bedste for at udfylde denne rolle.
My job is to play sweeper, and I do my best to fill that position.
Donnelly (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg stillede kommissær Bangemann et specifikt spørgsmål om, hvorvidt kommissæren uden forbehold kunne for sikre Parlamentet om, at der ikke var indgået uofficielle aftaler mellem den britiske regering og Kom missionen i forbindelse med den bøde på £ 650 mio., der skal betales, hvis British Aerospace sælger Rover inden for den femårsperiode, der er fastsat af Kom missionen.
DONNELLY (S). — Mr President, I asked Commissioner Bangemann a specific question about whether the Commissioner could assure the Parliament un reservedly that there were no unofficial deals done between the British Government and the Commission concerning the £650 million penalty to be paid should British Aerospace sell Rover within the five-year period specified in the Commission's ruling.
Jeg sagde i mit indlæg, at jeg havde oplysninger om, at der var indgået en uofficiel aftale mellem Kommissionen og den britiske regering, og jeg vil gerne have ført til protokols — ja eller nej — om der uofficielt er indgået en sådan aftale mellem Kommissionen og regeringen.
I said in my speech that I have information that there has been an unofficial deal done between the Commission and the British Government and I want it placed on record — Yes or No — whether such a deal has been done unofficially between the Commission and the government.
Pollack (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg ønsker at blande mig i debatten, fordi jeg har Kingston-filialen af British Aerospace i min valgkreds med 3 000 arbejdere.
POLLACK (S). — Mr President, I want to get into this debate because I have the Kingston branch of British Aerospace in my constituency, with 3000 workers.
Jeg har med stor opmærksomhed lyttet til det, som kommissær Bangemann sagde, for jeg må møde op hos disse arbejdere og forklare dem, hvad der sker.
I have been paying very great attention to what Commissioner Bangemann has been saying because I have to go back and see these workers and explain to them what is going on.
Jeg kan kun sige til kommissæren, at til trods for det, der er blevet sagt, er de og jeg stadig mystificeret med hensyn til, hvad der er sket i denne sag.
I can only say to the Commissioner that, in spite of what has been said, they and I remain mystified as to what has gone on in this deal.
Det er meget vanskeligt for manuelle arbejdere, der, mens alt dette stod på, rent faktisk strejkede i et forsøg på at opnå en 35-timers uge, at forstå penge beløb i en størrelsesorden af £ 150 mio., og de undrer sig meget over, at Kommissionen ikke reagerede tidligere.
It is very difficult for manual workers who, at the time of all this were actually on strike trying to get a 35hour work, to understand sums of money in the region of £150 million and they are very confused as to why the Commission did not act sooner.
Men helt ærligt, enhver, der kunne læse en avis på det tidspunkt, vidste, at der var noget i gære.
But, quite frankly, anyone who could read a newspaper during the time knew that something fishy was afoot.
Vi kan ikke forstå, hvorfor Kom missionen sidder tilbagelænet med foldede hænder og venter, indtil en regering officielt informerer den om noget, når den er fuldt vidende om, hvad der sker.
What we cannot understand is why the Commission has to sit back with its arms folded and wait until a government officially informs it of something when it knows perfectly well what is going
Er det da ikke muligt i Det Europæiske Fællesskab, at Kommissionen kan reagere på kendsgerninger, som den er vidende om, hvis en regering vælger at tilbageholde oplysninger?
POLLACK on. Is there no way in the European Community that the Commission can take action on the basis of facts which it well knows, whether or not a government chooses to withhold information ?
Det er, hvad de 3 000 arbejdere i Kingston er interesseret i at vide, og jeg mener ikke, at kommissær Bangemann har tydeliggjort det over for os endnu.
That is what the 3000 workers in Kingston are interested to know and that is what I do not believe that Commissioner Bangemann has yet made clear to us.
Hvis jeg har forstået det rigtigt, så talte han om, at der i 1989 fremkom meddelelser i pressen, og at det var disse pressemeddelelser, der førte til, at Kommissionen blev aktiv.
entrepreneurial in his activities as Secretary of State, is in itself a slur.
Hvis dette ikke er korrekt, vil jeg gerne have oplyst, om det var den britiske revisionsrets beretning, der først forelå, og derefter pressemeddelelsen, eller om det var omvendt.
What he was doing was trying to repair the damage done to the British car industry by successive Labour Governments, particularly when Harold Wilson invited Lord Stokes — a great marketer of trucks and buses — to take over the BMC.
Dette var meget vigtigt for min vurdering, og jeg mener ikke, at dette var helt klart i Kommissionens beretning.
This was in fact the beginning of the ruin of the British car industry, I am delighted that the government was able to take it out of State hands and get it into private hands and I hope this will be the end of the story.
Ford (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne sige to ting.
FORD (S). — Mr President, I want to make two points.
Den ene vedrørende hr. Pattersons bemærkninger.
One in relation to Mr Patterson's remarks.
De britiske Labour-medlemmer her i Parlamentet har på Den Socialistiske Gruppes vegne anmodet om en redegørelse om denne sag i de sidste tre måneder.
The British Labour Members in this Assembly have been asking, on behalf of the Socialist Group, for a statement on this matter for the last three months.
Jeg ved ikke, om hr. Patterson var til stede, men vi fremsatte faktisk en anmodning igen i mandags, og kommissær Bangemann fortalte os, at han med glæde ville fremkomme med en redegørelse, hvis tiden tillod det.
I do not know whether Mr Patterson was present but we did make the demand again on Monday and were told by Commissioner Bangemann that he was happy to make his statement if the time could be found for it.
Parlamentets formand tilbød en redegørelse fredag formiddag.
The President of Parliament offered that a statement only on Friday morning.
Så helt ærligt ved jeg ikke, hvad hr. Patterson hidser sig op over.
So, quite frankly, I do not know what Mr Patterson is jumping up and down about.
Det er klart en relevant sag for Parlamentet, og det er kun en skam, at vi ikke har fået redegørelsen, før.
It clearly is an issue of relevance to this Parliament and it is only a pity we have not had the statement before.
Patterson (ED). --(EN) Hr. formand, til forretningsordenen, en række medlemmer i den anden side
PATTERSON (ED). — Mr President, in reply to Mr Ford, I would say that he knows the Rules of Procedure very well indeed.
Ford des at de politiske grupper kunne drøfte den inden mødeperiodens påbegyndelse. Det, de gjorde, var at få den på dagsordenen under denne mødeperiode om mandagen.
If they wished to have this statement on Friday they should have tabled a request in writing so that the political groups could discuss it before the opening of the session.
Hvis så vigtige sager fremover skal opføres på dagsordenen, så bør det ske i henhold til forretningsordenen.
In future if matters of this importance are to find their way on to the agenda, we should go through the normal Rules of Procedure.
Den anden ting, jeg ønskede at sige, vedrører sagens forløb.
The second point I wanted to make is in relation to how this has happened.
Vi mener ikke, at det var en venskabsaftale mellem Kommissionen og den britiske regering.
We are not suggesting it was a sweetheart deal between the Commission and the British Government.
Men vi mener, at der er tale om en løsning mellem venner efter begivenheden.
What we are suggesting is that it was a sweetheart settlement after the event.
Man havde ikke kendskab til det.
You did not know about it.
Da man fandt ud af, at nogen havde fingrene nede i pengeskuffen, var man faktisk rede til at indgå et kompromis og sige: »OK, vi dysser sagen ned.
When you found out that someone had their hand in the till you actually were prepared to compromise with them and say: 'OK, we shall hush it up.
Vi gør ikke for meget ud af den. Vi vil bestemt ikke indbringe jer for Domstolen.«
We shall not do too much about it.
Bangemann, næstformand i Kommissionen. — (DE) Hr. formand, endnu engang til spørgsmålet om informationen.
BANGEMANN, Vice-President of the Commission. — (DE) Mr President, once again on the question of information.
Hr. Rogalla, der er muligt, at der her og der havde været en notits i pressen, inden Sir Leon underrettede udvalget, for revisionsrettens beretning blev jo videregivet til pressen via et parlamentarisk udvalg.
It may be, Mr Rogalla, that accounts appeared here and there in the press before Sir Leon notified the committee, since the report by the audit authorities was issued to the press via a parliamentary committee.
Hans redegørelse var altså baseret på denne beretning fra revisionsretten og ikke på pressemeddelelser. Dette står nu helt klart.
He therefore gave information on the basis of this report by the audit authorities and not on the basis of reports appearing in the press.
Finder De det hensigtsmæssigt, at kommissær Brittan forhandler med den britiske regering om denne sag?
Do you not think it is inappropriate for Commissioner Brittan to be negotiating with the British Government over this issue ?
Retfærdighed skal ikke blot ske fyldest.
Justice not only has to be done.
Man må se, at det sker.
It has to be seen to be done.
Under de nuværende omstændigheder tror jeg, at rigtig mange mennesker i hele EF nærer tvivl om denne proces.
In the circumstances we have at the moment, I think a large number of people all over the European Community have doubts about that process.