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Derfor er jeg imod at fastsætte betingelsen : først vil vi producere mindre smør og derefter først tale om bortskaffelsen af lagrene.
I should very much like to know more about this, because otherwise I was once again misinformed on Friday.
Det er ikke passende i lyset af den aktuelle dramatiske situation, og derfor bør vi ikke stille sådanne betingelser, men give vore accept.
My group will vote in favour of the amendments which we have tabled, and we hope that the Commission will adopt them.
Bocklet (PPE). - (DE) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, jeg vil gerne tage det op, min socialistiske kollega net op sagde. Hvis vi ikke hurtigt bortskaffer disse lagre, vil det være en katastrofe for Europa.
BOCKLET (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, colleagues, I should like to take up what my Socialist colleague said just now.
Det har vi alle rede talt om i længere tid.
We have already discussed it at length.
Nu har Kommissionen og Rådet fremlagt et forslag til finansiering af dette pro gram, og forslaget svarer ikke til det, Parlamentet har krævet.
The Commission and the Coun cil have now tabled a proposal for financing this operation, and the proposal is not the one Parliament
Tingene ændres, for så vidt som det vil koste de europæiske skatteydere nogle millioner i ekstraomkostninger.
For the rest, as representative of the Agriculture Com mittee may I say that I am not as sceptical as Mr Woltjer.
Den nuværende skandale forhøjes altså med endnu en skandale, fordi nogle nu vil nægte at give deres tilslutning, hvis ordningen ikke svarer til det, de
We do now have a decision which has been adopted, namely that of December last year, and that decision is the most courageous decision on the elimination of surpluses to have been taken in the dairy sector for a long time.
Aigner, formand og ordfører for det medvirkende råd givende budgetkontroludvalg. — (DE) Hr. formand, jeg må tilføje noget, fordi min kollega, hr. Colom, sagde, at jeg havde udeladt et punkt, som vi har behandlet i budgetkontroludvalget.
Let us have a little confidence in the Council, because if we wait until these measures finally bite, the butter stocks will have risen still further in the meantime and it will be even more of a scandal than it is today.
Aigner for artikel 14 er der også i vores afstemningskalender et plus, det er fru Hoffs forslag, som vi giver vores fulde støtte til, også på budgetkontroludvalgets vegne.
Bocklet stocks. It is not appropriate in a crisis situation like the present one, and that is why we should vote for the motion and not impose such terms now.
Vi er nødt til at være fuldstændig sikker på, at aftalen fra december vil blive anvendt, inden vi kan give grønt lys for den afsætning af smør, der er foreslået.
We need to be absolutely certain that the December agreement will be applied before we can give our green light to the butter disposals that have been suggested.
Jeg foreslår og henstiller derfor, at Parlamentet i dag stemmer for et samråd, drøfter spørgsmålet med Rådet og derefter når til en samlet afgørelse i spørgsmålet om afsætning af lagrene.
I therefore suggest and recommend that in Parliament today we vote for conciliation, discuss with the Council and then come to an overall decision on the matter of stock disposal.
James Elles (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, lige som hr. Aigner glæder jeg mig over, at kommissæren kom hjem fra San Diego i går aftes for at være til stede under forhandlingen her i formiddag.
ELLES JAMES (ED). — Mr President, like Mr Aigner before me, I welcome the Commissioner who came from San Diego yesterday evening to be present with us in the debate this morning.
Jeg glæder mig også over, at Parlamentet i det hele taget er blevet hørt vedrørende denne forordning, da den ikke har pligt til at blive det i henhold til traktaten.
I also welcome the fact that our Parliament has actually been consulted at all on this regulation, because it is not obligatory under the Treaty to do so.
Ligeledes glæder jeg mig over, at Rådet endnu ikke har truffet en endelig afgørelse, hvorfor vi virkelig har en vis mulighed for at ændre dets afgørelse i visse henseender, og det har mulighed for at tage hensyn til nogle af de problemer, vi har i forbindelse med forordningen. gen.
I welcome too the fact that the Council has not yet taken a definitive decision, so we do have some opportunity to alter its decision in some respects and to take account of some of the problems which we have on the regulation.
Maher (LDR). — (EN) Hr. formand, vi befinder os i en yderst vanskelig situation.
MAHER (LDR). — Mr President, we are in an extremely difficult position.
Det problem, vi står over for, er vist, at vi bør forsøge at vedtage det mindst ubehagelige forslag.
I think the problem facing us is that we must try to adopt the least unpalatable proposal.
På det grundlag og ved at lægge det kriterium til grund støtter jeg det, Kommis sionen foreslår at gøre.
On that basis, and using that criterion, I would support what the Commission is proposing to do.
Jeg mener ikke, det er hensigtsmæssigt, hvis Parlamentet gør noget for at modsætte sig dette forslag eller endog forsinke det, Jeg mener, at hr. Bocklet har fuldstændig ret.
I think it would not be sensible for this Parliament to do anything to oppose this proposal or even to delay it. I believe that Mr Bocklet is completely right.
Jo længere vi ud sætter gennemførelsen af dette program, desto værre vil problemet blive og desto dyrere vil det blive.
The longer we put back the implementation of this decision, the worse the problem is going to become and the more costly it is going to be.
Jeg mener, vi har et ansvar, hvis vi skal optræde ansvarligt, for at støtte kommissæren.
I think we have a responsibility, if we are to act responsibly, to support the Commissioner.
Jeg støtter ham ikke altid.
I do not always support him.
Men jeg mener, at i den situation, vi befinder os i for øjeblikket, er der ikke meget andet, vi kan gøre.
But I think that, in the situation that we are in at the moment, there is little else that we can do.
Vi vil selvfølgelig have mere tid til at drøfte, hvad vi skal gøre fremover.
We will have further time, of course, to discuss what we have to do in future.
Men som jeg ser det, vil vi ikke, medmindre vi kan slippe af med de lagre, vi har oplagret, og slippe for at betale kolossale beløb til ejerne af frysehusene, have penge til at tilvejebringe alternative politikker eller alternativer til landmanden/producenten, der er ofret i denne situation.
But as I see it, unless we can get rid of the stocks that are in storage and stop pay ing colossal sums of money to the owners of cold stores, we are not going to have money to provide alternative policies or alternatives to the farmer/producer who is the victim in this situation.
Dette er årsagen til, at vi er i den vanskelige situation, vi befinder os i i dag.
This is the reason we are in the difficulty we are in today.
Tidligere har vi ikke tilvejebragt nogen alternativer til disse landmænd, der ikke har andet valg end fortsat at producere mælk, hvis de ikke kan producere andet. De skal jo leve.
In the past we have not provided alternatives to those farmers who have no other option but to keep on producing milk if they can produce nothing else.
Jeg mener. hr. kommissær, at det er det, man skal sikre.
I think that is, Commissioner, what you have to ensure.
Efter min opfattelse regner alt for mange med, at disse besparelser skal anvendes på andre politikker.
Too many people, in my view, are looking to these savings to be used in other policies.
Sagen er ikke den, at den fælles landbrugspolitik koster for meget.
It is not that the CAP is costing too much.
Sagen er ikke en gang den, at mejeripolitikken koster for meget.
It is not even that the dairy policy is costing too much.
Sagen er tværtimod den, at vi bruger pengene forkert.
But it is that we are using the money in the wrong way.
Jeg mener, at det er problemet.
I think that is the problem.
Vi er nødt til at sørge for, at pengene kanaliseres tilbage til landmændene, men mere direkte og ikke med måske 30%, som de for øjeblikket får, mens de øvrige 70% bruges på andre ting.
We have to make sure that the money goes back to the farmers, but more directly and not to the tune of the perhaps 30% which they are presently getting with the
Afslutningsvis står vi, hr. formand, over for et reelt problem med hensyn ti den fremtidige sammenkædning af en generel produktionskontrol og afsætning af lagrene.
There are five points in this regulation which are of concern to my group.
Vi i Parlamentet er meget bekymrede for, at Kommissionen ikke fuldt ud vil gennemføre aftalen fra december.
First, we cannot give a blank cheque for disposal of all agricultural stocks, as the regulation recommends.
Vi har et par forslag, som Kommis sionen har forelagt, og som har taget et par ideer op fra Provan-betænkningen fra april sidste år vedrørende interventionernes funktion.
Secondly, we want to keep a very close watch in this Parliament on how the programme will be implemented, particularly with regard to butter disposal for socially disadvantaged groups and, of course, external sales to countries such as Russia.
Men jeg er yderst skeptisk over for, om Kommissionen vil godkende
We have been insisting for ages that we should have an overall stock disposal programme from the Commission.
Efter min opfattelse er der for øjeblikket ved at ud vikle sig en meget alvorlig situation med hensyn til kvotaernes anvendelse.
We are still awaiting details concern ing financing and normal levels of stocks for the major agricultural products and we are expecting that this should be presented to Parliament for examination in the Committee on Stocks which is currently being set up.
Den mindre landmand er jo meget hurtigt ved at blive sat ud af spillet, og kvo-
Fourth, we are concerned about the financing of this regulation.
Mäher taerne går i stadig højere grad til de store landmænd.
In my view there is a very serious situation developing at the moment in terms of how the quotas have been applied.
Det er absolut ved at ske i nogle lande.
Certainly that is happening in some countries.
Der vil være meget få små producenter.
There will be very few small pro ducers.
For øjeblikket producerer 12% af producenterne 40% af mælken.
At the moment 12% of the producers are pro ducing 40% of the milk.
Når alt kom mer til alt alt...
After all, . . .
Marques Mendes (RDE). — (PT) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, jeg vil starte med en stærk protest mod den fremgangsmåde, der er anvendt for at finansiere re duktionen af det smørbjerg, der er opsamlet i de seneste år.
MARQUES MENDES (RDE). — (PT) Mr President, colleagues, I must begin by protesting in the strongest terms against the procedure used to decide on the financing system for the reduction of the butter mountain which has piled up over the last year.
Hertil er forslaget sammenfaldende med Parlamentets gentagne anbefalinger, når det gælder en reform af den fælles landbrugspolitik.
This measure also goes some way to fulfilling Parliament's recommendations for the reform of the com mon agricultural policy.
Derfor vil jeg ikke falde for den parlamentariske fristelse at kritisere de beslutningstagende myndigheder. For mig vil Kom missionen og Rådet hverken personificere den gamle, drengen eller æslet, i det mindste ikke i dag.
In view of this, I do not intend to fall into the temptation felt by all Members of simply criticizing the Commission before all else.
Nej, den foreslåede foranstaltning er nødvendig, pas sende og det var på tide, den kom.
Whether we like it or not, the measure proposed is necessary, appropriate and timely.
Den største fejl ved den er vel, at den er kommet for sent. Det er klart!
I would even go so far as to say that its only fault is that is somewhat late in arriving.
Nogle protesterer over den lave pris, man plan lægger at sælge smørret til.
Of course, there will be those who will protest at the low price at which the sale of the butter is envisaged.
Men er det ikke rigtigt, at det er markedets bedste tilbud? Altså er det en ud mærket pris.
They should simply ask themselves whether it is or is not actually the best available on the market — then they will see that it is an excellent price.
En anden ting, som jeg ikke skal undlade at omtale, er problemet med fordelingen af de finasnielle omkostninger, som operation overskudslager-afsætning nødvendigvis indebærer.
However, the distribution of the financial costs necessarily incurred in the disposal operation is quite another matter, and something I cannot allow to pass without comment.
Hr. formand, det er faktisk en skændsel, at afgørelser, der omfatter over 3,2 milliarder ECU, det vil sige næsten 9% af Fællesskabets budget, som vi netop har vedtaget, skal blive forelagt for Parlamentet som no get, der er afgjort på forhånd, og behandles en fredag kl. 11,30.
It is matter of shame, Mr President, that decisions concerning sums in the order of 3.2 billion ECU — in other words, almost 9% of the Community Budget just approved by us — should be presented to us here as a fait accompli, and should come up for discussion in this Parliament at 11.30 on a Friday morning.
Ud over alt andet er vi vidner til en kovending i basisprincipperne for budgetforvaltning, når landbrugsrådet skal afgøre budgetspørgsmål.
But there is worse: we have once again witnessed the most basic principles of budgetary management being turned on their head, with the Committee on Agricul ture taking it upon itself to decide on budgetary matters.
Hr. for mand, det, der her er tale om, er, at den af Rådet foreslåede løsning er imod Parlamentets anbefaling. Det havde foreslået et ekstra finansielt bidrag fra medlemslandene, med undtagelse af Portugal og Spa nien.
The principal point of contention here is that the solution proposed by the Council is contrary to the recommendation adopted by this Parliament, which suggested an extraordinary financial contribution by the Member States, with the exception of Portugal and Spain.
Resutatet er, at vi har faet et forslag, der udover at være uretfærdigt, kun tjener til at udskyde problemet til 1989.
What we have ended up with is a proposal which is not only unfair but merely postpones the problem until 1989.
Endelig kan vi ikke acceptere, at de nye medlemslande skal være dem, der rammes hårdest med et system til finansiering af et overskud, som de ikke har været med til at skabe.
Lastly, Mr President, we cannot accept that the new Member States should be the most heavily penalized of all in a system for financing surpluses, that they did nothing to create.
Omkostningerne ved denne første operation beregnes til at blive ca. 3,2 milliarder ECU, og problemet er så at finde ud af, om omkostnigeme skal bæres af alle fællesskabslande eller blot af de lande, der var med lemmer, da lagrene blev opbygget, og det fordi både ordlyden og ånden i tiltrædelsestraktaten peger i ret ning af, at de nye medlemslande, Portugal og Spa nien, skal fritages for den slags omkostninger. Med hensyn til Portugal vil dets bidrag til denne operation andrage mere end ca. 3 milliarder escudos eller om trent 24 millioner ECU.
The estimated cost for the first operation is in fact in the order of 3.2 billion ECU, and the question is whether this cost will be borne by all the Community countries, or just those which were Member States at the time that the stocks were built up. Both the letter and the spirit of the treaties suggest that Portugal and Spain, the new Member States, should be exempt from this kind of financial burden.
Men derfor skal Portugal ikke dømmes til at betale. Tværtimod.
That does not, however, mean that Portugal should have to pay this sum.
Parlamentet skal anbefale Kommissionen og Rådet at gå ind for det princip, at udgifterne med afsætning af overskudslagrene ikke skal bæres af dem, der ikke var med til at skabe dem, eller med andre ord, de, der har spist kødet, skal også gnave benene. ne.
On the con trary, Parliament should ask the Commission and the Council to adopt a regulation establishing a principle according to which the costs of stock disposal should not be borne by those who did not create them. In other words, let those who did foot the bill.
For blot at tage Portugal vil det betyde, at dette med lemsland vil blive berøvet over 3 milliarder escudos, som det ifølge tiltrædelsestraktaten har ret til at få tilbagebetalt.
The new Member States stand along side the other nations, and have shown this by assuming a sizeable portion of the burden of the past, by participating in the repayments to the United King dom and in the revision of that very CAP which generated such huge surpluses.
Jeg forventer derfor, at mine kære kolleger vil stem me for det ændringsforslag til forordningen, som jeg har stillet, for endnu engang at slå Parlamentets stil ling omkring de nye medlemsstaters budgetneutralitet fast.
What they cannot, under any circumstances, accept is that a principle they reject should be imposed on them, and that the system of repayments agreed in the Treaty of Accession should be thrown into doubt by this regulation.
Madeira (S). — (PT) Hr. formand, i fortsættelse af de mange ytringer om nødvendigheden af at finde en løsning på den fortsatte ophobning af fødevarer,
Portugal alone would, in my opinion, stand to lose more than 3 billion escudos which it is owed in repay ments under the terms of the Treaty of Accession.
Tolman (PPE). — (NL) Hr. formand, politikere er almindelige mennesker, der kan blive vrede, forargede eller glade.
TOLMAN (PPE). — (NL) Mr President, politicians are ordinary people who can be angry, indignant or pleased by turns.
Kunsten i politikken er være det i det rette øjeblik.
The art of politics is simply to be in
Tolman der. Var det ikke enklere at anbringe kalvene under deres mor?
What are we now being told?
Det er mit spørgsmål.
That is the question I am putting to you.
Kunne man ikke gøre det fra nu af?
Could it not be done now?
Det er mit andet spørgsmål.
That is another question I put to you.
siden afviste forslag fra kommissæren, hr. Andriessen, om at begrænse interventionen — interventionen var uantastelig, og derfor måtte man gribe til et andet våben, nemlig en kraftig produktionsbegrænsning.
When my col league Mr Woltjer says that this is a European scandal and that we have done nothing to dispose of the stocks, I say — speaking generally — that only a few months ago we rejected Commissioner Andriessen's proposals for limiting intervention, intervention was sacrosanct and therefore other weapons had to be used, namely strict limitation of production.
I forbindelse med de udtalelser, der fremkommer i dag, må vi også tænke på, hvad der er blevet sagt for nogle måneder siden.
We have to realize that what is being said here was also said several months ago.
Jeg kan fuldt ud støtte disse forslag.
I fully support these proposals.
Endelig finder der en dårlig forvaltning sted af lagerorganisationerne, af de nationale organisationer, for det forholder sig sådan, hr. kommissær, i hvert fald indtil det modsatte er bevist, at i medlemsstaterne intervenerer de nationale organisationer på Fælles skabets vegne under Deres ansvar, og fordi De ikke vover at tage en konfrontation med medlemsstaterne, vil De ikke blande Dem i, hvorledes disse lagre for valtes i de forskellige medlemsstater, hvor der findes mange — og altfor — specielle aftaler med visse organisatorer. nisatorer.
Finally, there is bad management by the storage organizations, the national organizations, because, Commissioner, in the Member States, until it is proven to the contrary, the national organizations intervene on behalf of the Community, on your responsibility, and because you dare not face the Member States you do not want to pick on the way these stocks are man aged in the different Member States, where there are very special agreements —- too special — with certain operators.
Men jeg vil gerne tilføje noget, som ikke blot vedrører smør.
There is something I would like to add, not just with regard to butter.
Også de øvrige lagre af kød og skummetmælkspulver bør fjernes hurtigst muligt — i løbet af to år.
Other stocks as well, like meat and milk powder, should be disposed of as quickly as possible, within two years.
Hertil kan jeg anføre en ganske klar grund.
I have a very good reason for saying this.
Landbruget i Europa er i øjebliket i en yderst vanskelig situation.
At the moment agriculture in Europe is in a very difficult situation.
Vi står over for en kraftig prisstramning og en kraftig produktionsbegrænsning. Dette kan ikke fortsætte, det kan kun accepteres, hvis det lykkes at fjerne alle lagre inden 1989.
We are faced with strict price limits and strict production limits, and we cannot con tinue like that, it is acceptable only if we succeed in eliminating all stocks by 1989.
Stevenson (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, der er klart en forståelse for Kommissionens dilemma her, men der er også en meget underlig modvilje mod fuldt ud at give Parlamentets støtte til det, der er foreslået.
STEVENSON (S). — Mr President, there is clearly an understanding for the Commission's dilemma here, but there is also a very strange reluctance to give who lehearted support in this House to what has been pro posed.
Det forstår jeg.
I can understand that.
Jeg vil ikke komme ind på alle detaljer, men blot sige, at vi må føre en troværdig politik.
I do not want to go into all the details again. The policies which we pursue must be credible ones.
Hvis vi vil slå ind på den vej, som der til stadighed opfordres til, og som heller ikke bestrides af Parlamentet, må der til stræbes en markedsrettet produktion for fremtiden og en markedsmekanisme.
If we want to do what is continually urged, and Parliament does not object to it either, then in the future produc tion will have to be aligned with market demand, and there will have to be some kind of market machinery.
Der er ingen vej udenom: Lagrene skal fjernes.
It is therefore imperative that these stocks be disposed of.
Nuvel, vi har nu taget et vigtigt skridt, der vil efterfulgt af flere skridt, således at vi kan finde en løsning på problemet med »Europas skandale«, hvis vi kan tale om en sådan skandale.
At this moment we are taking a very bold step, which must be followed by a few more, so that we can give an answer to the 'European scandal', if we have to call it that, by seeking a solution now.
De, der går ind for at udskyde sagen, og de der ikke vil sige ja i dag, er ikke troværdige og spiller med i en europæisk komedie.
The people who want postponement and the people who do not want to say yes lack credibility and are making a laughing stock of Europe.
Det må vi være på vagt overfor.
We must guard against that.
Vi kan helt tilslutte os Kommissionens forslag.
We unreservedly support the Commission's proposals.
Opbygningen af lagrene er ude af kontrol og det er absolut uacceptabelt.
The storage of the stocks is out of control and is certainly unacceptable.
Men spørgsmålet her er ikke det principielle spørgsmål om, hvorvidt vi bør forsøge at løse problemet vedrørende lagrene, men de metoder, der foreslås, og følgerne af disse metoder.
But the issue here is not the question of principle whether we should seek to tackle the problem of stocks; it is the methods being proposed and the implications of those methods.
Musso (RDE). — (FR) Ja, vi er fuldstændig enige.
MUSSO (RDE). — (FR) Yes, we agree entirely.
Vi skal ikke forsinke Kommissionens forslag.
We shall not hold up the Commission's proposals.
Vi går også ind for hr. Colino Salamancas betænkning.
We also approve Mr Colino Salamanca's report.
Finansieringer af programmet for afsætning af smørlagrene vil komme til at koste 3,2 mia ECU over to år.
The financing of the stock disposal programme for butter is going to cost 3.2 billion ECU over two years.
Det foreslås, at disse penge skal lånes af med lemsstaterne.
It is proposed that this should be borrowed from Member States.
Efter vor opfattelse vil det uvægerligt i alvorligt grad belaste de fremtidige budgetters balance yderligere og lægge et overordentlig stort pres på strukturfondene fremover.
In our view it is bound to put serious additional stress on the balance of future budgets and massive additional pressure on structural funds in the future.
Det forlanges af os, at vi betaler disse tilbage til medlemsstaterne over fire år med renter.
We are asked to pay this back to Member States over four years with interest.