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Denne efterforskning, som jeg henviste udtrykkeligt til tidligere, fortsættes.
One reason we rejected it at the last partsession was in protest at the imprisonment of two Turkish Com munist leaders who had returned to their country to
Med hensyn til spørgsmål vedrørende behandlingen af ra dioaktivt affald kan jeg informere Parlamentet om, at der allerede er påvist en række afgørende punkter.
DESSYLAS (COM). — (GR) Mr President, both the rapporteur Mr Mallet and Mr Cheysson insist that these protocols are of a secondary and technical nature, and call upon us to vote for them.
Da Kommissionen forventede, at hele denne sag ville forurolige Parlamentet stærkt, har den søgt den førstmulige lejlighed, til at drøfte påstandene og dens egen reaktion herpå i Parlamentet.
Dessylas broken out in the Federal Republic of Germany is of paramount importance to people everywhere but so is what is going to happen in the Trawsfynydd nuclear plant.
Vi er klar til på alle mulige måder at hjælpe Parlamentet under dets drøftelse.
We would want a vote on that particular resolution which you received in due time and which you accepted was valid yesterday.
Vi må hurtigt finde sandheden om denne sag, så Fællesskabet kan drage enhver politisk kon klusion, som sandheden måtte tvinge os til at drage.
PRESIDENT. — Mr Smith, you are making certain assumptions about the Commissioner's statement before the Commission has in fact made its statement.
Til at sikre sig dette råder Kommissionen over en stab på ca. 140 inspektører, der har til opgave at kontrollere lagrene af atommateriale, transporten af atommateriale inden for hver enkelt medlemsstat, mellem medlemsstaterne og en delig mellem Fællesskabet og tredjelande.
We cannot subject to various technocratic considerations our democratic sensitivity to the political persecution and suppression of human rights in Turkey.
De inspektionsprocedurer, der er iværksat, gør det muligt at udøve denne kontrol effektivt.
In our opinion it is an irony to hear Mr Mallet's judgement that democratization is progressing in Turkey, especially when he quotes as evidence the fact that Turkey recently signed the Convention of the Council of Europe on the prohibition of torture.
Vi har ligeledes styrket vore forbindelser med Den Internationale Atomenergiorganisation i Wien, som vi i fællesskab udfører tal rige inspektioner med.
That is why we cannot reconsider our earlier decision, we cannot vote in favour of these protocols on the basis of technocratic criteria alone, as Mr Mallet suggests and Mr Cheysson proposes.
En række ærede medlemmer har bedt mig om at svare på pressemeddelelserne om, at British Central Electricity Generating Board er ved at planlægge et eksperiment, der omfatter kølesystemet på Trawsfy-nydd-atomkraftværket i Wales, jeg har naturligvis selv læst disse meddelelser, og jeg er bekendt med dem kontrovers, de har fremkaldt.
CLINTON DAVIS, Member of the Commission. — Mr President, I am sure that the House will appreciate why the Commission has asked to make a special statement today about the allegations relating to the movement of radioactive waste between the Centre for Nuclear studies at Mol in Belgium and nuclear installations in the Federal Republic of Germany.
Kommissionen har ikke officielt modtaget oplysninger om det eksperiment, man ifølge meddelelserne er ved at planlægge på det pågældende anlæg.
Like people throughout the Community, the Commission was shocked to learn of the serious allegations which are now the subject of criminal investigations and administrative inquiries.
Men jeg har allerede taget skridt til at skrive direkte til den britiske energiminister, hr. Parkonson, for at minde ham om bestemmelserne i Eu-ratom-Traktatens artikel 34, hvori det hedder:
My purpose today is to report to the House on the reaction of the Commission as the allegations unfolded and to summarize the concrete measures that we have already taken.
Kommissionens samtykke kræves, såfremt virkningerne af disse eksperimenter kan antages at vil le berøre de andre medlemsstaters område.
PRESIDENT. — The next item is the statement by the Commission of the European Communities on the transport of nuclear waste within the Community (Rule 56).
Undersøgelsen af disse rapporter og verifikationerne udført på stedet gør det ikke muligt for Kommission en at slutte, at der ulovligt er blevet eksporteret atommateriale i brud med ikke-spredningsaftalen.
Inquiries are now under way in the Federal Republic of Germany into serious irregularities in the content, movement and destination of a large number of drums of nuclear waste transported between various sites in the Federal Republic of Germany and Mol.
Jeg føler mig overbevist om, at inspektionerne og verifikationerne har fundet sted med al ønskelig professionel onihu.
The waste was taken to Mol under contract by the company Transnuklear for processing in order to have it treated and returned to the Federal Republic of Germany.
Alligevel bør undersøgelserne fortsætte, og jeg ønsker, at de igangværende undersøgelser skal kaste fuldt lys over sagen.
It appears that in some cases drums re-exported from Mol to the Federal Republic of Germany contained nuclear waste which was more radioactive and more dangerous than their labels indicated.
Jeg har skrevet til hr. Parkinson, at jeg er sikker på, at man fuldt ud vil tage højde for dette, hvis det fore slåede eksperiment i Trawsfynydd skal påbegyndes, jeg er sikker på, at jeg snart hører fra ham.
SMITH (S). — Mr President, I understand that the Commissioner is going to make a statement not only on the scandal which has broken out in the Federal Republic of Germany but also on the Trawsfynydd nuclear plant.
Det vil gøre det muligt for dette udvalgs medlemmer, og i givet fald for de parlamentsmedlemmer, som deltager i det, bedre at forstå den måde, hvorpå sikkerhedskontrollen udøves i praksis.
As I told the member of staff, someone has not been doing their homework because my resolution has nothing to do with the committee of inquiry but everything to do with the Trawsfynydd nuclear power station.
Mosar, medlem af Kommissionen. — (FR) Hr. for mand, først vil jeg gerne tage fat på problemet vedrørende eventuelle ulovlige transporter af atommateriale, de ulovlige transporter, som i de seneste dage er blevet omtalt i pressen, og som flere skriftlige og mundtlige forespørgsler har drejet sig om de seneste måneder.
The main burden of the allegations has been that over a long period, despite the contractual obligations of those involved, heavily contaminated radioactive waste has been criminally disguised as low-level waste and transported and stored as such.
De fremsatte bekyldninger en yderst alvorlige. De er blevet taget meget alvorligt.
There is another allegation reported widely in the press, namely, that under the cover of that waste movement, fissile material has been illegally transported to third countries.
På min föranledning har Euratom's inspektionstjenester straks iværksat en ny tilbundsgående undersøgelse af den kontrol, der tidligere er företaget i de pågældende anlæg.
My col league, Commissioner Mosar, will be intervening immediately after me in order to deal with that issue.
Hvad angår det mere specifikke spørgsmål om affald, kan ingen civil atomtransportør erklære materiale for »affald«, så længe det ikke er blevet fastslået, at det ikke længere indeholder atommateriale, der med den nuværende teknologi kan oparbejdes.
Mr President, I think we need some clarification on this matter, otherwise all the work which we have been doing over the past 24 hours to get the resolution together and to get support has been totally and utterly wasted.
Hvis det skulle blive bevist, at der har fundet uregelmæssigheder sted, vil Kommissionen tage de for holdsregler, der er nødvendige inden for rammerne af dens beføjelser.
Con fusion even now seems to attend statements about the exact origin of certain wastes.
Formanden. — Hr. Smith, jeg er klar over Deres ret tigheder i henhold til artikel 56, men jeg ville gerne lade kommissærerne fremsætte deres redegørelser først.
the first procedurally available opportunity to discuss the allegations and its own reaction to them before this House.
For det tredje vil vi gerne finde ud af, det må kom missærerne venligst forstå, om De har opfyldt Deres pligter, og om de kontrolforpligtelser, som Euratom-Traktaten foreskriver, virkelig blev overholdt i praksis. Sagen kan ikke opklares alene via en tyskbelgisk regeringskommission eller via undersøgelsesaktiviteter fra Kommissionens side. Der skal en parlamentarisk kontrol til, nærmere bestemt også på EF-plan!
We stand ready to assist the House in its own deliberations in all possible ways.
Vi har, hr. kommissærer, flere spørgsmål.
I turn now to the Commission's response.
Firmaet »Transnuklear« har gennemført adskillige atomtransporter.
Here I have a number of important developments to report.
Vi vil gerne vide, om firmaet »Transnuklear« har foretaget transporter fra Det Europæiske Fællesskabs forskningscentre i Karlsruhe og Ispra.
First, on behalf of the Commission, I have been in close con tact with Secretary of State Aerts in Belgium and Minister Töpfer in the Federal Republic of Germany.
For det andet blev mange mennesker på atomkraft værker bestukket. Vi vil gerne vide, om mistanken om bestikkelse også omfatter personer i Ispra, i Karlsruhe eller embedsmænd i Kommissionen eller hos Euratom!
A number of honourable Members have asked me to respond to press reports that the British Central Electricity Generating Board is planning an experiment involving the cooling systems at the Trawsfynydd nuclear power station in Wales.
Jeg siger det ikke som nogen anklage eller påstand, men vi må klarlægge dette omhyggeligt.
Naturally I have read these reports myself and I am aware of the controversy which they have provoked.
Schmid (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, det er godt, at Kommissionen i dag har frem sat en redegørelse, og det er godt, at Europa-Parlamentet i dag begynder at behandle sagen.
The Commission has not officially received any information about the experiment which is reported as being planned at that particular site.
Men i mellemtiden er det blevet klart for mange, at dette ikke alene er et belgisk eller et tysk anliggende, men at Det Europæiske Fællesskab, der også er et Euratom-fællesskab, er berørt.
But I have already taken the step of writing directly to the British Secretary of State for Energy, Mr Parkinson, to remind him of the provisions of Article 34 of the Euratom Treaty which reads:
Det drejer sig — det vil jeg gerne fremhæve — for kollegerne i den anden gruppe, der måske er for atomkraft, ikke om at nedsætte et undersøgelsesudvalg med det mål, at man nu agiterer for eller imod udnyttelsen af atomkraft.
Any Member State in whose territories particu larly dangerous experiments are to take place, shall take additional health and safety measures on which it shall first obtain the opinion of the Commission.
Det drejer sig slet og ret om, og det må være hele Parlamentets fælles interesse at finde ud af, hvad der virkelig er sket, da der her findes en masse åbne spørgsmål, som man ikke sådan kan lade henstå.
The assent of the Commission shall be required where the effects of such experiments are liable to affect the territories of other Member States.
Vi ved i mellemtiden, at man med en proces, som på tysk hedder Nafiveraschungsverfahren, kan udvinde indtil 5 kg plutonium af ca. 4 m3affald med mellemstor radioaktivitet.
Finally, the Commission experts will consider the wider implications of what they learn at Mol for the safe handling of nuclear waste within the Community.
Disse eksperimenter blev gennemført af atomforskningsanlægget Karlsruhe på Mol centeret, og senest efter at dette blev kendt, må det da være klart for enhver, der har at gøre med kontrol og Euratom, at affald med mellesmtor radioaktivitet må inddrages, fordi der nemlig ellers i det skjulte og hemmeligt kan udvindes spalteligt materiale.
Third, on Friday of this week, 22 January, the team of Commission experts will visit Bonn for discussions with officials of the Federal Republic of Germany.
Dette er spørgsmål, som der må gives et svar på.
One purpose of this meeting is to arrange visits to nuclear installations in the Federal Republic of Germany which have been involved in these shipments.
Jeg vil også gerne knytte en bemærkning til hr. Mosars redegørelse.
I have told Mr Parkinson that I am confident that this will be fully taken into account if indeed the proposed experiment at Trawsfynydd is to go ahead.
Det er vel sandt, at der for øjeblikket ikke findes nogen beviser på overtrædelse af ikkespredningsaftalen i Forbundsrepublikken. Alligevel opfordrer jeg Kommissionen til at gøre alt for at finde ud af, om disse rygter har noget på sig, og sige os, hvad der i mellemtiden er sket på Deres ressort.
MOSAR, Member of the Commission. — (FR) Mr President, I would like to start by discussing the question of possible irregularities in the handling of nuclear waste that have been reported in the papers recently and to which several written and oral questions have referred in recent months.
Hvad skal der gøres? Hvad skal vi klarlægge?
This will take place in Brussels on 15 February.
Vi har alligevel, hr. kommissærer, yderligere spørgsmål.
In con clusion on this point may I say that some time ago in one of our nuclear safety debates I said that we all had to realize that everyone in Europe lives beside a nuclear installation.
Dette går så vidt, at vi må konstatere, at særlige spaltelige stoffer, heriblandt plutonium, er Fællesskabets ejendom.
By the same token it is true that radioactive waste is transported past everyone's house and stored forever in everyone's backyard.
Og her har vi det helt enkle spørgsmål som Parlament: Hvem gør da her noget med vor ejendom?
The people of Europe have the right to demand that always in every process, in every movement nuclear waste is subject to rigorous regulation and control.
Vi vil endvidere gerne vide, hvem der har haft en interesse i at gøre det og hvorfor, da dette nemlig
In anticipation of considerable parliamentary concern about this whole affair, the Commission has sought
Han nævnte Trawsfynydd Magnox, altså det gaskølede atomkraftværk i Nord wales, og det forsøg, der er planlagt dér. De har meddelt Parlamentet, at atomkraftværker er under lagt den nationale kompetence.
At my request, the Euratom inspection services immediately undertook new in-depth checks on the controls previously carried out in the centres in question.
Det er vel sandt.
I am awaiting their reply.
Sandt er det imidlertid også, at farlige eksperimenter i overensstemmelse med bestemmelserne i Euratom-Traktaten skal meddeles og godkendes!
PRESIDENT. — Mr Smith, I am conscious of your rights under Rule 56, but I wanted to allow the Com missioners to make their statements first.
Den, der i dag forsætligt slukker for et atomkraftværks kølesystem, foretager efter min mening et farligt eksperiment! Hr. kommissær, handl! De har kompetence i henhold til Traktaten.
However, you have your rights, as you reminded me, under Rule 56 and you and 22 others have tabled a motion for a resolution on the nuclear power plant at Trawsfynydd.
Gør noget!
That will be done tomor-
kun for nogle eller måske for alle?
The inspection procedures used ensure effective controls.
Andet spørgsmål: Hvor nøje overvåger Den Internationale Atomenergi organisation de stoffer, der skal behandles, og som kommer ind på atomkraftværkerne, og de materialer, der igen forlader værket?
The methods used, as regards manpower and techniques, were evolved over the last few years thanks to your Parliament's constant support.
Forholder det sig på samme måde for Den Internationale Atomenergiorganisations vedkommende?
We have also strengthened our links with the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, with whom we carry out many inspections jointly.
Det undersøgelsesudvalg, som Parlamentet vil ned sætte, arbejder under vanskeliggjorte betingelser, for så vidt som vi hverken med bindende virkning kan indkalde vidner eller tage dem i ed.
In response to the questions put to me recently, as I have already said, I arranged for a re-examination of the accounting reports and of the reports of the inspections that have been made in the undertakings and installations referred to in the press recently.
Tredje spørgsmål: Hvordan skelner Kommissionen mellem atomsikkerhed og Euratom-Traktaten?
SCHMID (S). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, it is a good thing that the Commission has made a statement today and it is also a good thing that the European Parliament is opening a debate on it today.
Hvordan er kompetencespørgsmålet fastlagt i dette tilfælde?
To start with, this business was reported only in the Belgian and German press.
Vi vil nemlig gerne indkalde embedsmænd. Hvorvidt de skal afgive forklaring, er op til Dem.
Examination of these reports do not lead the Commission to the conclusion that nuclear materials have been misused in violation of the nonproliferation treaty.
Det pågældende udvalg vil få uforbeholden støtte fra alle mine kolleger i Den Europæiske Demokratiske Gruppe.
What we have to ask is whether important provisions of the Euratom Treaty have been breached.
Det er en undersøgelse af en række specifikke forhold, og jeg håber, at de, der i sidste instans udnævnes til at lede undersøgelsen, sørger for, at de holder sig inden for deres opgave.
I want to take this opportunity to point out that in June 1987 I had asked my inspection services to invite representatives of your Committee on Energy, Research and Technology on an information visit.
Jeg håber, at vi bliver i stand til at yde et lignende bidrag i dette tilfælde.
It will give the members of that committee and, where appropriate, the Members of this Parliament who take part in it a better understanding of how the safety controls work in practice.
Vore grænsers politiske net er da virkelig besynderligt.
What needs to be done?
De store fisk ser ud til at gå igennem det.
What needs to be clarified?
For det andet undrer det mig, at folk næsten ikke kan tie og næppe er i stand til at holde hemmeligheder for sig selv.
The first very simple and practical question is this: how does plutonium, which is subject to Community control by the Euratom inspectors, get into drums it should not get into?
Her viser der sig en handel og vandel i forbindelse med disse gud ved hvor mange tønder, endog hen over grænserne. Disse tønder kan man da ikke skjule i én vogn eller i én taske, og alle tier.
This is so serious that we need to make the point that fissile materials especially, including plutonium, are the property of the Community.
Også jeg spørger mig selv ligesom hr. Schmid, til hvilken pris dette sker, da man nemlig heller ikke i dag tier gratis.
As for the more specific question of waste, no civilian nuclear operator can declare material to be 'waste' until he has established that it no longer contains any nuclear materials that can be recovered in the present state of the technology.
Nu vedrørende mine tre spørgsmål: Hvordan bliver de anlæg i EF, hvor der i en eller anden form arbejdes med spalteligt materiale, omfattet af Euratom-Traktaten, og hvordan bliver de kontrolleret?
We also want to know who has benefited by this and why, because it is not as yet clear.
Der er uden tvivl afspejlet foruroligelse i den hastig hed, hvormed parlamentsmedlemmerne handler i denne henseende.
Thirdly we must find out — as the Commissioners will appreciate — whether the Commission has fulfilled its obligations and has in practice discharged the supervisory duties required of it under the Euratom Treaty.
Jeg mener, at hvis vi koncentrerer os om de foreliggende sager, kan vi meget hurtigt inden for de fire måneder, som De, hr. formand, har fastsat, udarbejde en rapport, som jeg håber bliver nyttig.
The affair cannot be resolved solely by a Belgo-Ger-man governmental commission or by inquiries by the
Kommissæren har med rette sagt, at dette ikke længere kun er i min egen baghave, problemet er alle rede i alles baghaver, uanset hvor de bor, og dette mener jeg vi bør koncentrere os om.Jeg vil blot gerne give udtryk for den bekymring, som også jeg følte, da jeg første gang læste om det foreslåede forsøg.
In conclusion, Mr President, may I say that to the best of our knowledge the safeguards are effective within the limits of the Community competences laid down in the Treaty that I have just mentioned.
Jeg glæder mig over kommissærens undersøgelser, men jeg vil også henlede alle interesseredes opmærksom-
If it were proved that irregularities had occurred, the Commission would take the necessary steps within its terms of reference.
De eneste oplysninger, jeg har for øjeblikket ud over dem i den nationale presse, er, at dette er Central Electricity Generating Boards synspunkt, der foretager en nøje sondring mellem et eksperiment og et forsøg.
neither force witnesses to give evidence nor put them under oath. The Commission can make this com mittee's job a lot easier, and I thus ask the two Com missioners here with us today to have the Commission take up this matter so that it can decide on the question I am about to put.
Jeg tror, at tilliden må stå i forhold til de udførte handlinger.
We should like to know if Transnuklear has moved materials for the European Community research centres in Karlsruhe and Ispra.
I dette til fælde må jeg sige, at der har været en generel mangel.
We should like to call officials before the inquiry.
Vi søger således at oprette det ved hjælp af resultater ne fra undersøgelsesudvalget.
Whether or not they are obliged to give evidence lies in your hands.
For nærværende så jeg gerne, at der blev svaret på de spørgsmål, som jeg har stilet vedrørende disse 140 eksperters former for ind griben, og om de initiativer, som er rettet mod at gennemføre en forebyggende aktion, dvs. før der sker ulykker.
Please tell us if you will assist Parliament's investigation by instructing every official involved to appear before the committee of inquiry and give evidence.
Poniatowski (LDR). — (FR) Hr. kommissær, jeg tak ker for de oplysninger, De har givet os.
(Applause from the left)
Euratom's kontrol omfatter lagrene, transporten af spalteligt materiale og det spaltelige materiale i an læggene.
LENZ-CORNETTE (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, before asking my three questions I have two comments which I cannot resist making.
Hvad der foregår på dette område vedrører os alle, thi den enes risiko er også den andens risiko. ko.
As I have already said, Europe is still not a reality in many areas including the internal market, VAT approximation and other areas of harmonization.
Jeg vil derfor gerne stille Dem to spørgsmål.
Why, I ask the Commissioner, has this not happened?
For det første, vil alle undersøgelsesmidler blive stil let til rådighed for det udvalg, vi nu vil nedsætte, uden at det bliver mødt med hemmelighedskræmmeri?
We have since learned that the process known as wet incineration can yield up to 5 kg of plutonium from about 4 cubic metres of mediumlevel radioactive waste.
Denne fremgangsmåde skulle helst ikke udvides til at omfatte hele denne sag.
These are questions which demand an answer.
Efter hans udsagn er dette mandskab blevet styrket — også takket være Europa-Parlamentet — såvel i antal som med hensyn til midler.
Secondly I am surprised, because people usually can't keep their mouths shut and are incapable of keeping secrets to themselves.
Hvorfor i alverden blev disse initiativer ikke taget tidligere, som en normal rutine, for at kontrollere, hvad der sker på de mest delikate steder, hvor der findes radioaktivt affald, og hvor problemet i hvert fald er mere brændende?
Like Mr Schmid I too wonder how much money has changed hands, because silence also costs money these days. Even before Christmas our Group asked for a committee of inquiry and we are glad, Mr President, that the Bureau has approved this request, as you have just told us.
For det andet, Kommissionen har ansvaret for at overvåge aftalerne mellem Euratom-landene og tredjelande.
It may be that there is at present no proof that the nuclear nonproliferation treaty has been breached in the Federal Republic.