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Jeg vil være den første til at stemme for 6 000 ECU.
I for one. I am ready to vote for 6 000.
For øvrigt havde Kom missionen indledt sin undersøgelse, da den valgte dette beløb på 3 300 ECU som reference, men vi er bekendt med den reelle fare for, at Rådet forkaster hele pakken, og jeg vil opfordre alle mine kolleger til at tænke over sagen, som gør, som man siger, at mådeholdet ryger sig en tur.
Besides, the Commission had taken this amount of 3 000 ECU as its reference figure when commencing its study, but we are all aware that there is a real risk of the Council rejecting the entire package, and I invite all honourable Members to ponder that prospect, which would put an end to everything we are working towards.
Og det er derfor, at vi bør yære overordentligt forsigtige.
We therefore have to be extremely cautious.
Den af nogle ønskede sammenlignelige indkomst forkastedes i Landbrugsudvalget.
The comparable income approach that some people wanted adopted was rejected by the Agriculture Committee.
Alligevel ønsker vi alle. at Rom-Traktaten anvendes, og i det foreliggende tilfælde er det, da regionernes indkomst svinger inden for området 1 til 6, som bekendt helt indlysende, at alle land brugerne i Hamborg-området får den pågældende støtte, medens portugiserne og spanierne fortsat må nøjes med håbet.
And yet, we all want to see the Treaty of Rome applied, and in this instance, as we all know, the spread of incomes as between regions runs from 1 to 6, and the obvious result is that all farmers in the Hamburg region would receive the aids while those in Portugal and Spain could whistle for them.
Nogle ændringsforslag går igen.
A number of amendments are coming back.
Ordføreren vil på vegne af flertallet i Udvalget om Landbrug, Fiskeri og Ernæring tage ordet vedrørende ændringsforslagene; men jeg vil henstille til Parlamentet at indtage en ansvarsbevidst holdning, så mådeholdet kan sejre.
The rapporteur, on behalf of the majority of the Committee on Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, will give his opinion on each in turn, but I appeal to the House to adopt a mature attitude here, to give this measure a fair chance of being adopted.
Rådet, der sikkert forudså disse resultater, besluttede i marts 1986 at indføre udligningsstøtte for at tage hensyn til de restriktive priser.
In July 1986 Parliament gave its opinion on the accompanying sociostructural measures, the main objectives of which it outlined as follows: maintenance of a substantial number of farmers on the land, in line with the need to preserve the countryside; structural policy should be complementary to pricing policy, not a substitute for it; in order to reduce inequalities, Community funding should be inversely proportional to the wealth of a region.
I juli 1986 udtalte Parlamentet sig om de strukturelle ledsageforanstaltninger og gjorde opmærksom på sine
As all of us in this Chamber are aware, making the taxpayer take the con sumer's place as the source of agricultural income is out of the question.
Den omvendt proportionale samfinansiering og ønsket om at undgå intern forvridning i Europa ender med at stramme den nationale støtte, der allerede
Community funding, inversely proportional to regional wealth, and a resolve to avoid creating distortions within Europe have the effect in practice of con taining national aids already being provided in certain States.
Det samme gælder for ordningen med indkomststøtte.
Tha by the present reform of the CAP.
Vi bør ikke løbe den risiko, at hele regioner i Fælles skabet lægges øde; for landmanden har jo faktisk andre funktioner end netop planteavl og husdyrhold.
We must not run the risk of turning whole areas of the Community into desert; because the farmer fulfils other roles in addition to producing agricultural products and stock.
Nemlig den funktion at befolke landdistrikterne, holde økosystemerne ved lige, beskytte og bevare kultur landskabet, det er opgaver, som dag for dag vil få større værdi for det europæiske samfund, og det er ret og rimeligt, at der sker indkomstoverførsler, som et udtryk for samfundets anerkendelse af denne side af landmændenes virke.
The role of occupying the land, maintaining ecosystems, protecting and defending the countryside is one which will have greater value every day in European society and it is right that there should be transfers of income which allow society to recognize this role played by farmers.
Hvem er berettiget til den i henhold til de enkel te medlemsstaters bestemte referencebetingelser?
and rural planning, and expect them to contain con crete measures, not general propositions.
Hvordan vil ordningen bliver præsenteret og for stået?
They should restore coherence and efficacy to the structural measures, in which there is too much sectoral emphasis.
Alle disse vanskeligheder kan i hvert fald ikke bruges som argumenter til at udsætte beslutninger om denne overgangsstøtte, for ministrene gik ind for princippet deri i marts 1986, og stats- og regeringscheferne kræ vede afgørelser på topmødet i marts 1986, og hun dredtusinder af landmænd er i dag i vanskeligheder.
Be that as is may, these various difficulties cannot be used as a pretext for postponing decisions on these transitional aids, because they were agreed upon in principle by the Ministers in March 1986, because the European Council called for decisions in March 1986, because hundreds of thousands of farmers are now in difficulties.
Vi har altså brug for det konkretes Europa — vi taler for meget derom uden at gennemføre det i tilstrækkeligt omfang — og det kræver en afgørelse og hurtig gennemførelse.
The time has come for putting Europe into practice — we suffer from too much talk and not enough action — and no time is to be lost in taking a decision and acting on it.
Jeg håber, at Parlamentets afstemning vil hjælpe og tilskynde Rådet til at træffe en hurtig og god afgørelse.
I hope Parliament's vote will help and encourage the Council to take the right decision soon.
FORSÆDE : PIETER DANKERT
IN THE CHAIR: MR DANKERT
Ordningen med indkomststøtte har midlertidig ka rakter, idet den ikke kan strække sig over mere end fem år eller, i særlige tilfælde, ti år.
The programme of income aids is a transitional measure and cannot be extended longer than five years or, in extreme cases, ten years in certain regions.
Det drejer sig om at tilpasse bedrifterne til en ny markedssituation og ikke om at gøre nogen til evige støttemodtagere.
It is a matter of adapting agricultural holdings to a new situation on the markets and not of creating permanent rentiers.
I dette tidsrum skal Fællesskabet være i stand til at iværksætte en ny sociostrukturel politik, der tager højde for det europæiske landbrugs behov under de nye vilkår.
During that period the Community will have to be capable of launching a new sociostructural policy which will cover the needs of rural Europe in the face of the new circumstances.
For at understrege dette mål kræves det, at landbruget udøves som hovederhverv, og at ansøgeren forpligter sig til at blive i erhvervet.
To emphasize all that, applicants for income aid must practise farming as a main occupation and must undertake to continue farming.
Disse for anstaltninger kan kun gennemføres, hvis fællesskabs finansieringen kommer til at udgøre en stor procent del af støttemidlerne, navnlig i regioner med en gen nemsnitsindkomst, der ligger langt under gennem snittet i Fællesskabet.
These programmes can only be successful if they are financed by a high proportion of Community funds, especially in the case of regions with an average income level widely divergent from the Community average.
I disse tilfælde er det desuden absolut nødvendigt at indføre en ordning med forud betaling af godtgørelserne.
Moreover in such cases it is indispensable to initiate machinery for the advance payment of the compensation.
Kort sagt kan det forliggende ændrede forslag til ord ningen om indkomststøtte til landbrugerne sammen med Landbrugsudvalgets ændringsforslag være et nyttigt middel til at tilpasse mange familiebrug til den nye situation på det marked, der vil opstå i det kom-
Finally, the present proposal for an amendment to the programme of aids to agricultural income, together with the amendments proposed by the Committee on Agriculture may be a useful system which will make it possible to adapt many family holdings to the new market situation which will develop in the next decade.
Sierra Barda¡i (S). — (ES) Hr. formand, for det første vil jeg gerne gratulere ordføreren med hans strålende og ihærdige arbejde med at få betænkningen op at stå.
However, there is no doubt about the need to launch these compensatory measures or the programme for income support. It is a pity that the Community should divorce the issue of the farmer's earnings from his practising agriculture productively.
Med denne indkomsttøtteordning, som i dag behandles i plenum, fuldender Fællesskabet den pakke af udligningsforanstaltninger, der blev vedtaget på det seneste topmøde i Bruxelles. Ingen er uvidende om den bekymring, der i dag råder i landbrugskredse over de konsekvenser, som reformen af den fælles landbrugspolitik kan få.
PISONI, Ferruccio (PPE). — (IT) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, this is the second time that I rise to speak in this Chamber on the Commission's proposals for establishing a Community system of aids to agricultural income.
Sierra Bardají komsterne hos de familier, der driver landbrug i de mindre begunstigede områder af Fællesskabet.
Pisoni, Ferruccio that have been promised and already discussed become operative instruments.
Filosofien bag Kommissionens forslag og hensigten med det synes for øvrigt at være at lade nogle land brugsvirksomheder overleve, men kun en kort tid.
JEPSEN (ED). — (DA) Mr President, if Parliament decides to promote direct, albeit temporary support for farm incomes, it will be making not just a mistake but a monumental blunder.
Det fremgår af bistandens midlertidige karakter og af det aftagende bidrag fra fællesskabsbudgettet såvel som af den del af indgrebet, der kan opføres på selve fællesskabsbudgettet.
Such a burden would be imposed on the system at a time when European agriculture is having to fight to remain competitive.
Kun de økonomisk stærke virksomheder synes at have en fremtid for sig.
It is glaringly obvious that this is a social policy measure.
Man må håbe, at det ikke fastlåser den bestående situation og forhindrer nye initiativer og ny udvikling.
Can we still afford to pursue social policy through the European common agricultural policy?
Ferruccio Pisoni (PPE). — (IT) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, det er anden gang, jeg tager ordet her i salen angående Kommissionens forslag om at indføre en fællesskabsordning for bistand til landbrugsindkomsten. sten.
How on earth can you devise a fair method of pro viding this support? How will it be possible to check that the conditions and possibilities for the individual do not change fundamentally over the five-year period envisaged, so that the basis for the support is no longer present?
Den væsentlige og uvurderlige rolle, som de lidt ind bringende virksomheder i ugunstigt stillede områder spiller for bevarelsen af miljøet og de naturlige res sourcer, retfærdiggør i høj grad de ændringsforslag, som Udvalget om Landbrug har stillet.
The changes made by the Agricultural Council on 11 and 13 February in Brussels led to the scrapping of certain measures and the reintroduction, in a revised form, of a system of transitional aids to farm ing income.
Kun ved et afbalanceret indgreb fra Fælesskabets side kan vi undgå et yderligere svælg mellem indkomsterne fra region til region og fra medlemsstat til medlemsstat og ligeledes undgå forsøg på renationalisering og na tionale indgreb, som kan forvride konkurrencevilkårene og privilegere landbrugsvirksomhederne i de lande, der råder over de største ressourcer.
The measures that we are considering aim in the main to increase the complementary nature of the systems in question compared with the previous system and, on the other hand, to simplify and streamline the application machinery envisaged, so that the family farming concerns for whom the aid is intended — which are those that are structurally and economically the weakest — can effectively benefit from the specific aid that is envisaged by this proposal for a Council regulation.
Pakken indeholdt dengang forslag til en fællesskabsordning for tilskyndelse til ophør med landbrugsvirksomhed, for braklægning af marker samt en rammeordning for national støtte og fælles skabsstøtte til landbrugernes indkomster.
This second Thareau report — which we support in its entirety, and on the excellence of which we congratulate the rapporteur — plus the amendments made by the rapporteur himself and other members of the Committee on Agriculture, makes the initial proposal more incisive and better adapted to what is really needed, in terms of supplementing farmers' income, and helping the families who are running farms in disadvantaged areas of the Community.
Lad os fremskynde iværksættelsen af denne foran staltning.
I am well aware that many family farms are hard hit by the agricultural reform which has been undertaken.
De små ejendomme, der rammes af stabilisatorerne og alle de bestemmelser, hvis formål det er at nedsætte priserne og begrænsde produktionen, ven ter på en løsning.
We all regret that, but it does not justify the introduction of such unbelievably shortsighted solutions — 'solution' is hardly the word, 'patchwork job' is more appropriate.
Selv om dette ikke er en foranstaltning, som vil kunne udrette mirakler, kan den dog yde nogen hjælp.
The Danish Conservatives will therefore vote against this report.
Jepsen (ED). — Hr. formand, hvis Parlamentet ved tager direkte, omend midlertidig støtte til landbrugets indkomster, begår man ikke aliene en fejl, man begår en kæmpebommert.
The philosophy and the intention behind the Commission's proposal, however, seem to be directed at allow ing certain farms to survive for a brief period only.
I en tid, hvor europæisk landbrug skal kæmpe for at blive konkurrencedygtigt, pålægger man systemet en sådan belastning.
And that is demonstrated by the transitional nature of the aid and by the decrease in Community financing, as well as in the proportion of total aid that is attributable to the Community budget.
Dette er socialpolitik, så det skriger til himlen.
It seems as though only the economically strong farms have a future.
Har man stadig råd til at føre socialpolitik over den fælles europæiske landbrugspolitk? Jeg spørger bare.
It is to be hoped that this will not entrench the existing situation, preventing new initiatives and new develop ments.
De foranstaltninger, vi her drøfter, sigter hovedsagelig imod at udvide de pågældende ordningers kom plementaritet i forhold til de foregående bestemmelser og på den anden side at forenkle og smidiggøre de anvendelsesmekanismer, der skal til, for at de familielandbrug, som modtager støtten — det vil i hovedsagen sige de strukturelt og økonomisk svageste — virkelig kan nyde godt af den særlige bistand, der tales om i dette forslag.
The essential but unquantifiable part that the low-income farms situated in disadvantaged regions play in helping environmental conservation and the conservation of natural resources fully justifies the amendments made by the Committee on Agriculture.
Man har også hævet bistandsbeløbet for at gøre den økonomiske støtte til de pågældende landbrugsejendommes besiddere og deres familier mere passende.
Only the balanced provision of aid by the Community will obviate further divergences of income between one region and another and one Member State and another, as well as obviating attempts at rationalization and national measures that may distort competition and favour the farms in those Member States with greater resources at their disposal.
Det kan ikke være og må aldrig blive en europæisk opgave.
And it will offer this aid, if also all the other measures
Hvordan i alverden vil man finde frem til en retfærdig måde at yde denne støtte på?
In that context, this move would seem to be a positive one.
Jepsen en støtte, indtil de er i stand til at fortsætte med land brug uden støtte, fremfor at føre dem ud af landbruget efter en 67 år?
Maher we shall not be wasting our time going over the same ground as long as this leads to practical results.
Det be klager vi allesammen, men det retfærdiggør ikke, at man indfører sådanne utroligt kortsigtede løsninger — jeg burde ikke sige løsninger, men lappeløsninger.
I would prefer to reward them for effort, for better or more efficient produc tion, or even extra production in some cases, than to give them money for doing nothing.
Derfor vil de danske konservative stemme imod den ne betænkning.
I think it is bad psycologically, it does not produce the best kind of people for the future and it does not give them the kind of independence of spirit that I think rural people ought to have.
Christensen (ARC). — Hr. formand, Budgetudvalget har stemplet svaghederne ved dette forslag : Manglen de oplysninger om kriterierne for støtte, om fortpligtelsernes varighed og om kontrolmulighederne.
While I do not propose to make a habit of it, I find it appropriate to quote words spoken by Mr Nallet, French Minister for Agriculture, who is on record as stating explicitly that steps should be taken to enable farmers to rely more on profits than on aids and subsidies.
Hvorfor satser Kommissionen ikke i langt højere grad på en konstruktiv løsning?
There is another aspect of this question of income aids as it is presently elaborated on by the Commission.
Er det mangel på fantasi? Hvorfor hjælper man ikke i stedet for disse familiebrug i gang med nogle nicheproduktioner?
In the context of the national aids that now seem to be part and parcel of the Commission's policy, it appears that some countries, because they are relatively wealthy and have small farming populations and a strong industrial arm, can afford to support their farmers.
Var det ikke bedre, om man fokuserede på at producere nogle varer, som kan afsættes til lande — måske end da verdensdele — der i dag er i økonomisk vækst og dermed har en købekraft, som vi skulle se at få andel i. Så ville Europa stadig have mulighed for at være konkurrencedygtigt, og landmanden vil kunne bevare sin selvrespekt.
Other countries in far greater need because they have relatively large farming populations, a weak industrial base, and difficult economic situations cannot afford this.
Der kunne være et perspektiv i at omlægge hele den nuværende direkte og indirekte pris- og markedsstøtte på landbrugs området til persontilskud af midlertidig karakter til de nuværende landbrugere.
My final point is: should not these aids be geared transitionally to giving farmers assistance until they are able to continue farming without aid, rather than to moving them out of agriculture after six or seven years?
Men vi frygter, at der blot ved nærværende forslag sættes et nye drænrør i EFs kasse, uden at landmændene generelt hjælpes her ved.
That is a contradiction that I hope can be corrected or confirmed by the Commissioner.
Mäher (LDR). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne takke hr. Thareau for hans betænkning, selv om jeg ikke nødvendigvis er tilfreds med det hele.
We have the impression that the transitional aids are being proposed by the Commission as a means of disguising failure and avoiding acceleration of the desertification and tragic depopulation of our countryside.
Det basale spørgsmål, vi må se i øjnene i denne tid i forbindelse med landbrugets og landdistrikternes udvikling, er, hvad slags befolkning vi skal have i landdistrikterne 10 eller 20 år længere fremme.
What are we to make of aid amounting to 1 500 ECU (FF 10 500) in the first year, even with the Commission's proposed two work units per farm?
Det er virkelig det spørgsmål, vi skal tage op, ikke hvor meget støtte der skal gives til hvede, byg, mælk, oksekød, vin eller andre ting.
It is not by doubling this amount that Parliament is going to resolve the considerable difficulties that farmers are having to contend with.
Vi skal prøve at finde en politik, der direkte har virkning på livet for folk i landdistrikterne. ne.
Granted, the creation of a special budget line in the sum of 1 440 million ECU, with payment spread over the years 1989 to 1997, is appreciable and we appreciate it for what it is worth, particularly when set against the number of 850 000 farm holdings.
Devèze (DR). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, Europa-Parlamentet har afgivet en udtalelse om di rekte indkomststøtte til landbruget.
CHRISTENSEN (ARC). — (DA) Mr President, the Committee on Budgets has put its stamp to the weak nesses in this proposal: inadequate information on the criteria for support, on the duration of the commit ments and on the possibilities for control.
Men det er ikke unyttigt at komme tilbage dertil, så længe sagen får praktiske udvirkninger.
The major ity in the Committee on Agriculture is firmly resolved to make this temporary arrangement permanent, and the political pressure will be enormous when the arrangement lapses.
I den forbindelse ser dette skridt ud til at være positivt.
But what is to be said of the undertaking required of farmers to remain in farming for five years in order to receive these aids?
Det er et forsøg på at få nogle ekstra finansielle midler til dem, der har størst brug for dem.
They may be approaching retirement age, or they may run into serious financial difficulties, or their crops may be damaged by climate or disease.
Jeg har aldrig været helt glad for ideen om at give folk penge for ikke at lave noget.
If he is forced out of farming by any of these circumstances, will he have to pay back money received, and if so under what arrangements?
Jeg ville foretrække at belønne dem for en indsats, for en bedre eller mere effektiv produktion, endda for en ekstra produktion i nogle tilfælde, fremfor at give dem penge for ikke at lave noget.
Again, what is to be said of real farm incomes, which vary so widely from one Member State to another, from one region to another?
Jeg mener, det er psykologisk forkert, det giver os ikke de bedste folk i fremtiden, og det giver dem ikke den åndelige uafhængighed, som jeg mener land befolkningen skal have.
All of this is bound to expand the role of para-agricultural bureaucracy, which will increasingly take farmers' decisions for them, telling them what they must do and how, or what they must not do, and taking us further and further down the road to a pattern of agriculture conforming increasingly with socialist orthodoxy.
Én gang er ingen gang, som den franske landbrugsminister, Nallet, udtrykkeligt sagde, skal landbrugerne have mulighed for i højere grad at kunne regne med fortjeneste end med hjælp og støtte.
Finally, direct aids to agricultural income provide only partial compensation for what has been taken away from farmers in different ways.
Der er en anden side af spørgsmålet om indkomst støtte, sådan som Kommissionen for øjeblikket tumler med den.
We think that it is pointless to give support which is not required to have any effect on the volume of agricultural production.
I forbindelse med den nationale støtte, der nu synes at være en integrerende del af Fællesskabets politik, ser det ud til, at nogle lande, fordi de er relativt velstående og har en lille befolkningsdel i land bruget og en kraftig industriel arm, har råd til at støtte deres landmænd.
There could be some point in transforming the entire present system of direct and indirect price and market support in the farming sector to a system of personal support of an interim nature to existing farmers.
Andre lande, der har et langt større behov, fordi de har en relativt stor landbrugs befolkning, et svagt industrielt grundlag og en van skelig økonomisk situation, har ikke råd til det. Fører dette ikke i retning af at forvride situationen, specielt i sammenhæng med 1992?
But we fear that the effect of this proposal would be merely to run a new drain from the Community's finances without this being of any help to farmers in general.
Hvad skal man mene om en støtte på 1 500 ECU det første år, selv om Kommis sionen foreslår to arbejdsenheder pr. bedrift?
DEVÈZE (DR). — (FR) Mr President, ladies and genlemen, the European Parliament has already given an opinion on direct aids to agricultural income. But