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Denne sag lugter ilde, for den har eksisteret lige så længe som De Europæiske Fællesskaber, og her påstår vi jo at være i gang med at skabe et nyt demokrati.
This affair leaves a bad taste in the mouth, since it has been going on for as long as the European Community has been in existence, and we claim to be creating a new form of democracy.
Disse hemmelige organisationers budget ter var også hemmelige.
The budgets for these secret organizations were also kept secret.
De blev ikke drøftet i noget parlament, og vi ønsker at udtrykke vor bekymring over, at det — mens vi i Fællesskabet diskuterer udvidelse af samarbejdet på sikkerhedsområdet — nu kommer for dagen, at der findes centre, hvor der træffes og udføres beslutninger, som ikke er under kastet nogen form for demokratisk kontrol.
They were not discussed in any parliament, and we wish to express our concern at the fact that while there is talk in the Community of expanding cooperation in the security field, it now emerges that there are centres for taking decisions and carrying them out which are not subject to any form of democratic control.
Så er det da klart, at vi ønsker sagen fuldt belyst, og jeg finder det skammeligt, at ikke alle grupper nærer samme demokratiske ønske.
So we obviously want to have total clarification, and I think it is very unfortunate that not all political groups are exhibiting the same democratic tendencies.
Ephremidis (CG). — (GR) Hr. formand, i fire årtier har Gladio-organisationen eksisteret under forskel lige falske navne.
EPHREMIDIS (CG). — (GR) Mr President, the Gladio system has operated for four decades under various names.
Den har eksisteret og eksisterer sandsynligvis endnu. F.eks. skjulte sværdet, Gladio, sig i Grækenland under pseudonymet »skindet«.
It has existed, and possibly still does.
Det førte undergravende virksomhed, og vi har ret til at føre alt, hvad der er sket i vore lande i løbet af disse fire årtier af destabiliserende handlinger, provokationer og terrorisme, tilbage til denne Gladio-organisa-tion, som må være positivt eller negativt involveret.
It has operated clandestinely, and we are entitled to attribute to it all the destabilization, all the provocation and all the terrorism that have occurred in our countries over these four decades, and to say that, actively or passively, it must have had an involvement.
Den er involveret, eftersom det er en organisation, som blev oprettet af CIA og af NATO, som skulle beskytte demokratiet, men i virkeligheden underminerede det og holdt det under sit herredømme.
The fact that it was set up by the CIA and NATO which, while purporting to defend democracy were actually undermining it and using it for their own nefarious purposes, is evidence enough of its involvement.
Det er utilstedeligt, at sådanne skandaløse situationer anstiftes udefra.
It cannot be that scandalous situations like this are created by outsiders.
Derfor må vi tilstræbe, at det fuldstændigt bringes til ophør, og navnlig må vi kræve, at der kastes fuldt lys over sagen.
Our aim must therefore be a complete dismantling, and above all we must insist on total clarification.
Jeg ved, at fred og sikkerhed falder uden for Europa-Parlamentets kompetence; derfor stiller kompromisbeslutningen krav om, at der i alle 12 medlemsstater nedsættes parlamentariske undersøgelsesudvalg så vi i det mindste via de nationale parlamenter kan komme til bunds i sagen.
I realize that we in the European Parliament have no competence regarding peace and security matters and hence the compromise resolution asks for parliamentary committees of inquiry to be set up in each of the twelve Member States so that we do get total clarification, at least through the national parliaments.
Ud over disse undersøgelsesudvalg ønsker vi til slut, at også Ministerrådet giver os fuldstændig information. tion.
Finally, besides these committees of inquiry, we should like the Council of Ministers to provide us with full information.
Hr. formand, det er en meget interessant fase, vi drøfter, for vi går til konferencer for at tale om det demokratiske underskud.
Mr President, we are entering a very interesting phase in the Community now.
Hvilket demokratisk underskud?
We are going to have conferences and we are going to discuss the democratic deficit.
Det, som har set ud som demokrati, var og er undermineret.
But. which democratic deficit are we really thinking of?
Der kræves beslutsomme handlinger.
Drastic action is needed, Mr President.
Parlamentet bør af medlemsstaterne kræve både parlamentarisk kontrol og kontrol fra domstolenes side. Der bør afdækkes flere elementer, og der bør oprettes et særligt organ, et særligt underudvalg under Parlamentet. Vi må arrangere høringer, så alt kommer frem i lyset, så der kan blive truffet drastiske foranstaltninger, og så undergravende organisationer som denne kan forsvinde fra vore lande.
This Parliament must demand that the Member States exert control through their parliaments and legal systems.
Baget Bozzo (S). — (IT) Det er ejendommeligt, at der tales om disse ting nu, efter at der er sket en så lykkelig forandring i de militære forhold her i Europa. Jeg vil dog minde om, at under årene med kold krig var det et led i den militære strategi, både i Øst og i Vest, at der var behov for at have organiserede modstandsstyrker i tilfælde af invasion.
BAGET BOZZO (S). — (IT) It is strange that we should be discussing these things when Europe's military structures are changing so nicely.
Denne opfattelse af det strategiske behov vedvarede i lang tid og blev endda styrket i halvfjerdserne over for truslen fra pacifisterne.
This strategic concept continued for a long time, and even grew stronger during the '70s, under pressure from the pacifist movement.
Pannella (NI). — (IT) Hr. formand, jeg tillader mig at benytte forretningsordenen, ligesom De gør.
PANNELLA (NI). — (IT) Mr President, allow me to use the Rules of Procedure in the same way as you use them.
Dvs. fremsætte en bemærkning til forretningsordenen, der ikke har noget med forretningsordenen at gøre, for at sige, at jeg i dette øjeblik får at vide, at fru Thatcher har trukket sig ud af afstemningen.
That is to say, to make a point of order which has nothing to do with order, and say that I have just this moment learned that Mrs Thatcher was conceded: if your enemy runs away, let gold and silver pave her way, and let us salute!
Lad os tage det til efterretning og sige farvel til fru Thatcher.
We acknowledge this, and salute Mrs Thatcher.
Hr. formand, jeg har benyttet forretningsordenen, som De gør.
They were hard years, and in my country in particular military reserves and structures survived that we inherited from the Partisan war, which was really fought as a people's war in our country.
Baget Bozzo var opretholdt, og organisationer, der var en arv fra partisankrigen, som vi virkelig udkæmpede som en folkekrig.
BAGET BOZZO part of the transformation process that is already taking place within the North Atlantic Alliance.
Når dette er sagt, må vi tage til efterretning, at NATO's generalsekretær, hr. Manfred Wörner, har erklaret, at det er nødvendigt at revidere den gamle organisation.
Having said this we must note that the Secretary-General of NATO, Manfred Woerner, has stated that a review of the old structures is necessary.
Lad os håbe, at det øjeblik virkelig er kommet, da vi kan opløse den.
Let us hope that the time has really come for them to be broken up.
De Donnea (LDR). — (FR) Hr. formand, det var fuldt ud legitimt, at de fleste af vore stater ved udgangen af krigen 1940/1945 oprettede tjenester, hvis mål var at forberede sovende modstandsnetværk, som kunne aktiveres i tilfælde af, at vore lande blev besat af Warszawapagtens styrker.
DE DONNEA (LDR). — (FR) Mr President, it was perfectly legitimate, at the end of the Second World War, for the majority of our states to set up services whose purpose was to prepare underground resistance networks that could be activated in the event of our countries being occupied by the forces of the Warsaw Pact.
Hvis man havde haft sådanne indretninger til sin rådighed i 1940, kunne man utvivlsomt have reddet livet for mange modstandsfolk, som var heroiske, men som undertiden blev ofre for en vis amatørisme.
If we had possessed such resources in 1940, the lives of many members of the resistance, who were heroes, but sometimes fell victim to an amateur approach, could probably have been saved.
Noget andet er så problemet med dem, der har brugt disse organisationer til andre formål. Et sådant problem har vist sig i Italien, og domstolene i mit land har taget det op.
The problem of the men which those structures used for other purposes — a problem that has arisen in Italy, which the judges in my country have looked into — is a different matter.
Det er faktisk domstolene, som vi dog bør have tillid til, der i forbindelse med mistanke om forbryderiske handlinger har bragt »Gladio« for dagen.
It was in fact the judges — in whom we must therefore have confidence — that brought 'Gladio' to light in relation to possible criminal activities.
Men at gå videre, som hr. Imbeni gør, og kræve sigtelse rejst mod alle ledende politikere i alle NATO-lande, der har haft kendskab hertil, og således at sætte »Gladio« i forbindelse med forbrydelser og at kautionere for hans partisekretærs idé med, at »Gladio« skulle være terrorismens »gamle mand i bjergene«, det er ikke reformisme, kammerat Imbeni, ikke i nogen betydning eller i nogen retning.
To go from this and call, as Mr Imbeni does, for the incrimination of all political leaders in all the NATO countries who have had this news, thus linking 'Gladio' with crime, and endorsing the argument of its secretary that 'Gladio' is the 'Grand Old Man' of terrorism — this, comrade Imbeni, is not reformism in any sense and in any way.
Det minder mig snarere om det sprog, der blev talt i den kolde krigs år, da De krævede, at alle og enhver skulle sigtes.
It reminds me rather of the language of the cold war years, when you asked for the incrimination of everyone.
Vi bør således hylde alle dem, der, så længe den kolde krig stod på, virkede i disse netværk i respekt for de legitime mål, man havde opstillet for dem.
We must therefore pay tribute to all those who, while the cold war lasted, worked in these networks with due regard for the legitimate aims they had been given.
For at disse netværk kunne bevare deres effektivitet var det naturligvis nødvendigt, at de forblev hemmelige, og man kan ikke bebrejde de kompetente politiske myndigheder, at de har bevaret denne hemmelighed.
For these networks to remain effective, it was obviously necessary for them to be kept secret, and the political authorities cannot be blamed for having maintained that secret.
Beslutningsforslaget indeholder nemlig ud over punkter, der kunne siges at udtrykke rimelig bekymring og anmodning om oplysninger, også uantagelige følgeslutninger og påstande, der ikke er ulig de insinuationer og den mistænkeliggørelse, der har præget kampagnen på nationalt niveau.
Having said that, if there are serious indications or suspicions to the effect that some or all of these networks have operated in an illegal or abnormal way in certain countries, it is in everyone's interest for matters to be brought into the open and for the guilty to be punished.
Når det er sagt, skal det også siges, at dersom indicier eller seriøs mistanke giver grund til at tro, at alle eller en del af disse netværk i visse lande har optrådt afvigende eller illegalt, så er det i alles interesse, at der kastes lys over det, og at de skyldige bliver straffet.
In effect the motion for a resolution, in addition to what might be legitimate concern and requests for information, contains unacceptable inferences and statements that are not unlike the suspicions and insinuations that have already characterized the national campaign.
Sådan er det for eksempel gået i Italien, hvor ministerpræsident Andreotti under en omfattende forhandling den 8. november i Senatet har givet omfattende oplysninger til afklaring angående arten af de militære reserveenheder, der i halvtredserne oprettedes i NATO-området.
This has happened for example in Italy where, during a many-sided debate on 8 November in the Italian Senate, the President-of-the-Council, Mr Andreotti, provided substantial information clarifying the nature of these secret military units, which were created during the '50s in the NATO countries.
For øvrigt er vedkommende parlamentsudvalg stadig i gang med undersøgelser heraf for at fremskaffe yderligere oplysninger. ger.
Moreover, the competent parliamentary committee is still pursuing the relevant enquiries so as to make further clarification available.
Det er imidlertid skandaløst, at man i visse af vore lande uden at have noget seriøst bevis har sået tvivl om hæderligheden af de ulønnede militærfolk og civile, der har sørget for, at disse sovende netværk fungerede under hele den kolde krig.
However, it is scandalous that in some of our countries, without a shred of proper evidence, doubt has been cast on the honour of the volunteer servicemen and civilians who have kept these underground resistance networks going throughout the cold war.
Jeg beklager, at der en nogle iblandt os, hr. formand, der går efter en nem, for ikke at sige falsk berømmelse ved at stable historier på benene, der er en Gérard de Villiers værdige, bare mindre talentfuldt og uden at afvente resultatet af de undersøgelser, der pågår.
I am sorry that there are some among us, Mr President, who are seeking cheap, not to say bogus publicity by concocting stories worthy of Gérard de Villiers, though told with less skill, and without waiting for the results of the inquiries that are in hand.
I et øjeblik, da vi fejrer indledningen af en ny periode i Øst-Vest-forholdet, som symboliseres ved slutakten fra Paris-mødet i Konferencen om Sikkerhed og Samarbejde i Europa, fører debatten i dag os tilbage
We shall therefore vote against this resolution, which contains accusations that have not been borne out by the current investigations and which in any case deals with a subject that lies outside the competence of our Community.
Når det er sagt, hr. formand, så drøfter vi her et spørgsmål, der ikke ligger inden for EF's kompetence.
It is necessary in fact to remember the historical context in which these structures were necessary — namely, the age of confrontation between the two blocks, when the Western democracies were under threat.
Punkt 6 og 7 savner ethvert juridisk fundament. Vi vil derfor stemme imod dette beslutnings forslag, som gentager beskyldninger, som de pågående undersøgelser ikke har dokumenteret rig-
Mr Andreotti referred to it yesterday.
CATENA-gruppen i Belgien, lige så stille holdes uden for debatten.
It makes even less sense that various organizations operating in the same context and connected with Gladio, such as the Catena group in Belgium, are being quietly kept out of the debate.
Jeg frygter, at det af hensyn til demokratiet er mere end nødvendigt, at Parlamentet nedsætter et undersøgelsesudvalg, og jeg foreslår i den forbindelse, at der foretages en nærmere undersøgelse af den magtkamp, der foregik mellem CIA og MOSSAD for nogle år siden.
I am afraid that a committee of inquiry of this Parliament is more than necessary in democratic terms, and in this respect I would suggest that particular attention be given to the power struggle a few years ago between the CIA and Mossad.
For Gladio var i mange henseender et tveægget sværd.
In many ways, Gladio was a two-edged sword.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er forhandling under ét om følgende beslutningsforslag: slag:
B3-1994/90/rev, by Mr Robles Piquer and others, on behalf of the Group of the European People's Party, on the European information technology industry;
B3-1994/90 af Robles Piquer m.fl. for PPE-Gruppen om den europæiske industri for informationsteknologi; tionsteknologi;
B3-2019/90, by Mr van Velzen and others, on behalf of the Socialist Group, on workers' rights in the restructuring of the Philips multinational organisation;
B3-2019/90 af van Velzen m.fl. for Den Socialistiske Gruppe om arbejdstagernes rettigheder ved omstruktureringen af det multinationale selskab Philips;
B3-2036/90, by Mr Herzog and others, on behalf of the Left Unity Group, on the informatics and electronics sector;
Dessylas (CG). — (GR) Hr. formand, frit efter Marx vil jeg sige, at Gladio-spøgelset vandrer gen nem hele Europa, helt til Sverige og Schweiz.
DESSYLAS (CG). — (GR) Mr President, paraphrasing Marx we can say that the spectre of Gladio hangs over the whole of Europe, even over Sweden and Switzerland.
Det fungerer endnu i dag, det har skiftende formandskab og mødtes i slutningen af oktober i Bruxelles under belgisk formandskab, som den belgiske forsvarsminister nævnte.
It is still in being. It has a rotating presidency and, as the Belgian Defence Minister has stated, it met at the end of October in Brussels under Belgium's aegis.
Ved siden af Gladio findes også den selvstændige underafdeling, CATENA, som den schweiziske presse oplyser.
In Switzerland the press has uncovered an independent offshoot known as Cadena.
Dette afslører efter min opfattelse, hvor usselt undergivne og skræmmende afhængige regeringer, militær, repressive mekanismer og hemmelige efterretningstjenester i hele Europa har været af USA, NATO og CIA.
The extent to which the governments, armed services, enforcement agencies and intelligence services of the whole of Europe have been wretchedly in thrall to the United States, NATO and the CIA is now being revealed to us.
Jeg foreslår, at der øjeblikkelig nedsættes undersøgelsesudvalg i de tolv nationale parlamenter og i Europa-Parlamentet for at få undersøgt, hvilken rolle Gladio og dets underafdelinger spiller også i forbindelse med krigsforberedelserne i Den Persiske Golf.
The national parliaments and the European Parliament must set up committees of inquiry immediately to investigate the role being played by Gladio and its offshoots, not least in the preparations for war in the Gulf.
B3-2075/90 af Pronk m.fl. for PPE-Gruppen om afskedigelser inden for den europæiske informationsteknologi-industri;
B3-2075/90, by Mr Pronk and others on behalf of the Group of the European People's Party, on job losses in the European information technology industry;
Nr. 3-396/273 i forbindelse med ESPRIT- og JESSIE-program-merne, som Fællesskabet betaler kraftigt til, idet investeringerne udgør milliarder af ecu.
Because from TREVI, parallel organization that it is, we have now moved on to the pan-EEC Gladio, and this poses a very serious threat to our democratic freedoms in Europe.
Det lader sig let konstatere, at der til dato er blevet gjort usædvanlig lidt på det felt. Fra Europa.
However, the motion does not make direct reference to this, but rather to the position of the industry itself, that is to say of the computer and electronics industry in Europe.
Robles Piquer (PPE). — (ES) Hr. formand, det forslag til beslutning, som jeg havde den ære at forelægge på min gruppes vegne, omhandler i allerhøjeste grad arbejdssituationen for de personer, der vier deres evner og energi til informationsteknologiens verden.
PANNELLA (NI). — (IT) Mr President, there is one country in Europe — and I shall not say which — in which the secret and similar services of various types determined the congressional majority of a party — let us admit that it is called 'Republican' — at Ravenna.
Beslutningsforslaget refererer imidlertid ikke direkte til disses, men til selve edbindustriens situation i Europa.
There is a country in Europe in which, during those same years, a party of the extreme left — let us admit that it is called 'Psiup' — was founded half with money from the ENI services, and hence from the secret and similar services, and with Czechoslovakia!! money.
Denne situation er nemlig yderst foruroligende, og medmindre Fælles skabet og dets institutioner seriøst tager fat på problemet, er der stor risiko for, at Europa på edb-området bliver reduceret til Japans og USA's slagmark.
There is a country in Europe where, from '76 to '79, the entire party system was not responsible for one question on the P2 and the P38 — the entire system, four hundred members of parliament! — and played havoc with the law on emergencies and made the fascist penal codes more severe.
Af disse grunde har jeg fremsat nærværende forslag, som jeg imidlertid nu ønsker at tage tilbage med det formål, at Parlamentet samlet støtter det fælles forslag til beslutning, som lægger vægten på emner, der mere direkte optager størstedelen af forsamlingen, nemlig beskæftigelsen.
But if truth is found, it will not be the truth of one 'Gladio' but indeed of a whole set of obscene and dangerously strange things, typical of the entire party system.
Vi beder indtrængende ledelsen i de berørte virksom heder om på nationalt og europæisk plan at under rette fagforeninger og kompetente instanser om deres omstruktureringsplaner og om deres internationale strategi, selv hvor denne måtte række ud over Europas grænser.
We are urging the management of the undertakings involved to inform the trade unions and other relevant organizations at national and European level of their restructuring plans and in fact of their international strategy, even where this extends beyond Europe.
Pannella (NI). — (IT) Jeg vil minde Dem, hr. for mand, om, at ingen har ophævet artikel 64 i forret ningsordenen.
PANNELLA (NI). — (IT) I should like to remind you, Mr President, that noone has abrogated Rule 64 of the Rules of Procedure.
Derfor burde De i stedet for at give hr. Robles Piquer ordet øjeblikkelig lade os stemme om Gladio-beslutningsforslaget.
Therefore, instead of giving the floor to Mr Robles Piquer, you ought immediately to have taken the vote on 'Gladio'.
Da afgørelser i modstrid med forretningsordenen må betragtes som ugyldige, kræver jeg, at De straks — jeg ved ikke, hvordan det hedder på Deres sprog — sætter forslaget til afstemning, når forhandlingen er afsluttet, som det foreskrives i forretningsordenen.
Since decisions that are against the Rules of Procedure are to be considered null and void, I call on you at the end of the debate, as required by the Rules of Procedure, immediately— I do not know how you say this in your language — to take the vote.
Formanden. — På græsk hedder »straks« »amesos«, hr. Pannella.
The crisis means that swift action is necessary, but the undertakings have to realize that such action cannot all be on one side.
Men jeg kan ikke straks gå over til afstemningen, for Parlamentet tog en anden beslut ning i aftes.
The European Community cannot go on pouring millions into joint projects if the situation in terms of strategic planning remains extremely unclear.
Krisen gør hurtig indgriben nødvendig, men virksomhederne må indse, at kærligheden må være gen sidig.
PRESIDENT. — (GR) Mr Pannella, in Greek 'immediatemente' translates as 'amesos'.
EF kan ikke fortsætte med at stoppe milliarder i fælles projekter, hvis der fortsat hersker den største uklarhed angående de strategiske planer.
But obviously I cannot proceed to the voting 'amesos' because the House decided otherwise yesterday evening.
Van Velzen (S). — (NL) Hr. formand, min person lige anledning til at fremsætte dette beslutningsforslag under den aktuelle debat var, at Philips' bestyrelse den 25. oktober meddelte, at der skal nedlægges 50 000 stillinger.
VAN VELZEN (S). — (NL) Mr President, what lay behind the tabling of this resolution for the topical and urgent debate in my personal case was the announce ment by the Philips board of directors on 25 October that some 50 000 jobs were to be lost.
Beslutningsforslaget har imidlertid fået langt større relevans.
However, this has become a resolution that is much broader in scope.
Vi ved nu, at der hos Bull forsvinder 5 000 jobs, hos Olivetti 7 000, og ICL er blevet overtaget.
We have learnt in the meantime that 5 000 jobs are being lost at Bull, 7 000 at Olivetti, and ICL has been taken over.
Det fremgik også klart af det, som hr. Robles Piquer sagde, at der for øjeblikket er krise i den europæiske edb-teknologi.
And as was also made clear by Mr Robles Piquer, we are now talking about a crisis in European information technology.