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Vil Rådet — efter Europa-Parlamentets vedtagelse af beslutningen om turisme (2) — oplyse, hvordan det stiller sig til
Following the adoption by the European Parliament of its resolution on tourism2will the Council indicate its position with regard to the following: (a) the convening of a meeting of Ministers for Tourism, (b) promoting a better seasonal and geographical distribution of tourism, (c) the develop ment of tourism in the less favoured regions and (d) the establishment of an advisory Tourism Committee?
McMillan-Scott (ED). — (EN) Jeg vil blot som Par lamentets ordfører for turisme tilføje, at jeg naturlig vis støtter spørgsmålene fra mine tidligere kolleger, som forsøger at påvirke Rådet en smule i dette vigtige spørgsmål, som nu udgør ca. 10% af beskæftigelsen i Fællesskabet og bidrager ca. 5% til bruttonationalproduktet. nalproduktet.
MCMILLAN-SCOTT (ED). — I would only add my obvious support, as rapporteur for tourism for Parliament to the questions from my colleagues designed to draw the Council out a little on this quite important matter, which now represents about 10% of employ ment in the Community and provides about 5% of GDP.
følgende: a) indkaldelse af et møde mellem de for turisme ansvarlige ministre, b) fremme af en bedre tidsmæssig og geografisk spredning af turismen, c) udvikling af turismen i de ugunstigt stillede regioner og d) nedsættelse af et rådgivende udvalg for turisme?
ELLEMANN-JENSEN, President-in-Office of the Council. — (DA) Four questions have been put by the
Mener rådsformanden ikke også, at det på baggrund af hr. Cryers udtalelser er yderst vigtigt, at vi går bort fra det dominerende landbrug i Fællesskabernes bud get og begynder at overføre nogle af midlerne til
Would he also agree that, in the light of what Mr Cryer has been saying, it is vitally important that we shift the balance away from the dominance of agri-
McMillan-Scott områder med økonomisk og beskæftigelsesmæssigt potentiel som f.eks. turisme?
McMillan-Scott culture in the European budget and begin to transfer some of the funds into areas of economic and employ ment potential such as tourism?
offentlige faser i andre lovgivende forsamlingers pro cedurer.
It therefore serves no useful purpose to draw comparisons with the distribution between closed and open phases in the procedures of other legislative assemblies.
Ellemann-Jensen. — Der er blevet nævnt flere konkrete ideer.
ELLEMANN-JENSEN. — (DA) Several concrete ideas have been put forward.
Hertil vil jeg blot sige, at hvis der kom mer den slags konkrete forslag fra Kommissionen, må Rådet forholde sig til disse.
On these I will merely say that, if concrete proposals of that kind come from the Commission, the Council will have to formulate a view on those proposals.
Vi har ikke fået den slags forslag.
We have not received any.
Men generelt vil jeg sige, at turismen er af meget stor betydning. Det tror jeg, vi alle er enige om.
But in a general way I would say that tourism is of very great importance.
Jeg minder også om, at der er mulighed for, at de økonomisk svagest stillede områder kan få bistand til udvikling af turisme gennem Regionalfonden.
I would also remind you that there are facilities for the economically weakest regions to obtain support for the development of tourism from the Regional Fund.
Det ender med at blive et forfærdeligt »fonds-Europa «, og det bryder jeg mig i hvert fald ikke om med min ideologiske baggrund.
We shall end up with a dreadful 'Europe of Funds', and I for one would not care for that with my ideological back ground.
Newton Dunn (ED). — (EN) Jeg takker rådsformanden for hans svar.
NEWTON DUNN (ED). — I thank the President-in-Office for his reply.
Jeg erindrer også Sir Geoffrey Howes svar for et år siden. Den parallel, han drog var, at Rådet var et kabinet og ikke et parlament.
I also recall Sir Geoffrey Howe's reply a year ago.
Jeg vil gerne spørge Dem, hr. rådsformand, og jeg ved, at De er en god demokrat, kan det være rigtigt — og jeg forstår alle vanskelighederne med al forhandle i Rådet og nødvendigheden af fortrolighed i forbindelse med indrømmelser — at Rådet drøfter lovgivning i hemmelighed bag lukkede døre og dernæst også ved tager denne lovgivning, uden at offentligheden eller repræsentanter for offentligheden derefter giver deres samtykke hertil?
I ask you, Mr President-in-Office, and I know you are a good democrat, can it possibly be right — and I understand all the difficulties of negotiating within the Council and the need to be con fidential while making concessions — that the Ministers in the Council negotiate draft legislation in secret behind closed doors, and then pass that legislation as well, without the public or the representatives of the public subsequently giving any approval to it?
Hvorledes kan Rådet udarbejde og vedtage lovgivning uden noget demokratisk samtykke hertil? Kan De som god demokrat, hr. rådsformand, tilslutte Dem dette?
How can you draft and pass legislation without any democratic approval?
Spørgsmål nr. 77 af Newton Dunn (H-383/87):
Question No 77 by Mr Newton Dunn (H-383/87):
Om : Rådet og lovgivningen
Subject: Council and legislation:
Kan Rådet angive nogen anden institution i den frie verden, der som det selv holder møder og vedtager lovgivning bag lukkede døre?
Can the Council identify any other bodies besides itself in the free world which meet and legislate behind closed doors?
Boserup (COM). — Jeg er glad for, at ministeren indrømmede, at den procedure, der bruges i vort samarbejde, er enestående, det er jeg på demokratiets vegne meget glad for.
BOSERUP (COM). — (DA) I am glad to hear the Minister admit that the procedure adopted in our cooperation is unique. I am very glad of that for the sake of democracy.
Jeg vil gerne spørge ministeren, om der ikke var mulighed for, at ministrene kunne udvise en smule fantasi, idet vi jo ikke forlanger, at man fra den ene dag til den anden skal ændre en gammel og desværre dårlig maner, men man kunne dog udvise lidt fantasi og f.eks. vedtage, at man åbne de dørene, når en sag var færdig til endelig vedtagelse, således at hver enkel minister offentligt kunne be grunde den stilling, han havde taget.
I should like to ask the Minister whether it might not be possible for the Ministers to show a little imagination, since we are not asking for them to change an old habit — and unfortunately a bad one — overnight, but to show just a little imagination and, for example, agree to open the doors when a measure is ready for final adoption, so that each individual minister could publicly justify the position taken by him.
Marshall (ED). — (EN) Jeg vil gerne først lykønske rådsformanden med hans genvalg og ønske ham en længere embedsperiode end den, som visse kynikere giver ham.
MARSHALL (ED). — First of all I congratulate the President-in-Office on his re-election and wish him a longer term in office than some of the cynics imagine he will have.
Da alle medlemmer af Rådet naturligvis også er medlemmer af nationale regeringer, er han da ikke enig med mig i, at det, som behøves, er nærmere forbindelser mellem Europa-Parlamentet og de nationale parlamenter?
As all members of the Council are, of course, members of national governments, would he agree with me that what is needed is closer liaison between this Parliament and the national parliaments of the Community?
Ellemann-Jensen. — Jeg må sige, at jeg personlig føler mig meget fremmed over for denne diskussion.
ELLEMANN-JENSEN. — (DA) I must say that this discussion feels a little strange to me personally.
Det skyldes nok, at jeg er det medlem af Rådet, der er udsat for det skrappeste tilsyn gennem mit hjemlige parlament.
That must be because I am the Council Member who is subject to the closest supervision by my parliament at home.
Vi har det, vi kalder Markedsudvalget, hvor vi omhyggeligt diskuterer enhver bevægelsesmulighed, vi skal have i forhandlingerne.
We have what we call the Market Committee, in which we discuss every area for manoeuvre we need to have in the negotiations.
Hvis andre ønsker øget demokratisk og parlamentarisk kontrol, kunne de lave noget lignende.
If others want more democracy and parliamentary control, they could do something on the same lines.
Ellemann-Jensen, formand for Rådet. — Som det vil være de ærede parlamentsmedlemmer bekendt, er der ved flere lejligheder til tidligere rådsformænd stillet spørgsmål, der svarer til dette.
ELLEMANN-JENSEN, President-in-Office of the Council. — (DA) As the honourable Member will be aware, questions on these lines have been put on several occasions to previous Presidents-in-Office of the Council.
I sin behandling af sådant et spørgsmål i 1986 citerede min kollega, Sir Geoffrey Howe, et svar, der under det italienske for mandskab i 1985 var blevet givet af hr. Forte, og det vil jeg også gerne trække på.
When dealing with one such question in 1986, my colleague, Sir Geoffrey Howe, quoted an answer given during the Italian Presidency in 1985 by Mr Forte. I should like to draw on it again.
Svaret gik ud på, at Rådets arbejde — selv når det drejer sig om forslag til retsakter — ikke kan sidestilles med arbejdet i et par lament.
The answer was that the Council's work — even when it is concerned with proposals for legislation — cannot be compared to the work of a parliament.
I henhold til Traktaten er Rådet sammensat af repræsentanter for medlemsstaterne, og under Rådets drøftelser må Rådets medlemmer gøre alt, hvad der er muligt for at tilnærme deres holdninger til strækkeligt til, at den pågældende retsakt kan vedtages.
As required by the Treaty, the Council is made up of representatives of the Member States and, during the Council's deliberations, its members must do all they can to align their positions to an extent sufficient to enable the piece of legislation in question to be adopted.
Hvis Rådets samlinger og medlemsstaternes stil lingtagen blev gjort offentlig, ville det i mange tilfælde blive vanskeligere at give de indrømmelser, som det jo er nødvendigt at give undervejs, hvis vi skal fl holdningerne til at mødes.
If the meetings of the Council and the positions of the Member States were publicized, it would be more difficult in many cases to make the concessions which need to be made in the process if the different positions are to be brought closer to one another.
Jeg vil blot tilføje følgen de: Fællesskabets retsakter udformes under en mangefaset proces, i hvilken en række institutioner, her under også Rådet, har en rolle at spille inden for ram merne af de beføjelser, der er tillagt dem ved Traktaterne.
I would just add the following: the Community's legislative instruments are formulated in a multistage process, within which a number of institutions, including the Council, have a role to play within the framework of the powers con ferred on them by the Treaties.
Men jeg er meget fascineret af, hvordan vi kan få demokratiet til at fungere.
But I am fascinated by the way we get democracy to work.
Det, vi har i vores civiliserede lande, er et repræsentativt demokrati.
What we have in our civilized nations is a repre-
Europa-Parlamentets forhandlinger
Subject: Provision of special aid for Turkey
Ellemann-Jensen.
No firm decision has yet been taken, how ever.
delserne er noget, som drøftes af Kommissionen og af COMECON's sekretariat.
EPHREMIDIS (COM). — (GR) I must thank the President of the Council.
Hidtil er der afholdt to eks pertmøder. Rådets instanser er sammen med Kom missionen ved at behandle den hidtige udvikling i sagen med henblik på, at vi kan holde et tredje eks pertmøde.
He has presented us with the historical framework of the subject.
Det er dog endnu ikke blevet fastlagt.
Did this have a positive effect?
stå til ansvar over for vore vælgere for de handlinger, vi har foretaget.
ADAMOU (COM). — (GR) Does this in fact lie within the competence of the Council, or not?
Det kan vælte regeringer, og det kan vælte ministre, hvis man er gået for vidt i forhold til, hvad vælgerne ønsker.
ELLEMANN-JENSEN. — (DA) I can only repeat my first answer and say that it is a discussion which has not yet been brought to a conclusion. I am not there fore in a position to go into it in any more detail.
Men nøjagtig sådan er det jo også ofte i en national beslutningsproces, hvor man har valgt det repræsentative demokrati, så jeg opfatter det arbejde, der foregår i Rådet, som en fin raffinering af det smukkeste og det mest funktionsduelige, vi har i det repræsentative demokrati.
HABSBURG (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, as you know, the delegations to the various CMEA countries were put on ice as a result of a decision taken by an unspecified higher authority.
Jeg er helt sik ker på, at hvis der er nogen, der er gået for vidt, skal de nok få det at vide af deres vælgere bagefter.
We now have mandates for negotiations with Hungary, Romania and Czechoslovakia, but contacts between the European Com munity's democratic representative body, the European Parliament, and the parliaments of these coun tries have been put on ice.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 78 af Adamou (H393/97):
PRESIDENT. — Question No 79 by Mr Ephremidis (H-396/87):
Om : Ikrafttrædelse af den særlige støtte til Tyrkiet
Debates of the European Parliament
Mener Rådet ikke, at det ikke udelukkende er op til Kommissionen at give tilsagn om tudelig af den særlige støtte, men at dette tværtimod kræver udenrigsministrenes enstemmige tilslutning?
Is there, though, anything to prevent circulating this list to Members of the European Parliament who might wish to inspect it? To this question, which I believe is of interest to other colleagues, the answer given by the Danish Presidency is: 'No, we will not let you see the list.'
Ephremidis (COM). — (GR) Jeg vil gerne takke for manden for Rådet.
ELLEMANN-JENSEN. — (DA) I can say to Mr Ephremidis that Parliament's views will, of course, be given serious consideration in the Council's discussion of this matter.
Han gav os en redegørelse af den historiske ramme.
But, if we have not made any more progress, I must remind you that two parties are always involved in setting the pace, and it is not our side which is delaying developments.
Jeg vil supplerende spørge ham om, hvad hans personlige mening er, og hvilke virk ninger det har haft, at Parlamentet for otte måneder siden, i oktober 1987, vedtog en beslutning om for bindelserne mellem EF og COMECON. Har det haft positive virkninger?
But I should like to stress the importance of what I under stood lay behind Mr Habsburg's remarks, namely, that by establishing relations with Comecon as such we should not weaken bilateral relations with those coun tries which are members of Comecon.
Hvorledes har dette i givet fald udmøntet sig, og hvorfor har det i modsat fald ikke ført til en forenkling i proceduren for oprettelse af forbindelser, der vil være til gavn for både den anden side og EF?
Politically it would be very much the wrong signal to send to those countries which have a clear need to develop their bilateral relations with us.
Adamou (COM). — (GR) Jeg vil spørge om følgende : Har Rådet i realiteten beføjelse på dette område eller ej?
Subject: List of products under Article 223 (2) of the EEC Treaty
Habsburg (PPE). - (DE) Hr. rådsformand, som De ved, blev delegationerne med de forskellige stater in den for COMECON ved en beslutning truffet på højere sted lagt på is.
VAN AERSSEN (PPE). — (DE) You have been good enough to say four times during this Question Time that the Council awaits an initiative from the Commission to enable it to take action.
Ellemann-Jensen. — Jeg kan kun henholde mig til mit første svar og sige, at det er en diskussion, som endnu ikke er afsluttet, og derfor er jeg ikke i stand til at gå dybere ind i den.
What products are included on the list referred to in Article 223 (2) of the EEC Treaty, in accord ance with the provision that 'any Member State may take such measures as it considers necessary for the protection of the essential interests of its security which are connected with the production of or trade in arms, munitions and war material . . .' (Article 223, paragraph 1 (b)?
Finder De, at dette er en logisk udvikling?
I note that he takes a different view of this matter to that of the Council.
Ville det ikke være betydeligt mere fornuftigt, om vi straks udbyggede de demokratiske kontakter?
Why has the Council so far refused to publish the list of products in the Official Journal of the European Communities?
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 79 af Ephremidis (H396/87):
PRESIDENT. — Question No 81 by Mr von Wogau (H-406/87):
Om : Forbindelserne mellem EF og Rådet for Gensidig Økono misk Bistand
Introduction of motorway tolls in
Hvor langt er man nået i forhandelingerne mellem EF og RGØB og dettes medlemsstater med henblik på iværksættelse af de i beslutningen omhandlede foranstaltninger?
Is the Council aware that the Kingdom of Bel gium intends to introduce motorway tolls, and will the Council, in this connection, keep to its objective of abolishing motorway tolls in all Member States of the European Community?
Ellemann-Jensen, formand for Rådet. — Det forslag, som COMECON kom med i september 1985 vedrørende en fælleserklæring om oprettelse af officielle forbindelser mellem de to organisationer og fastlæggelse af en ramme for den senere udvikling i forbin
ELLEMANN-JENSEN, President-in-Office of the Council. — (DA) I would point out to the honourable Member that this question was already discussed yes terday in connection with Mr Lalor's report.
Til hr. Habsburg vil jeg sige, at spørgsmålet om delegationer fin derjeg ikke, jeg skal blande mig i, det er Parlamentets sag.
More over, the Commission has also not put forward proposals to make changes in the list, as provided by paragraph 3 of the Article.
Men jeg vil gerne understege vigtigheden af det, som jeg forstod lå bag hr. Habsburgs bemærkninger, nemlig vigtigheden af, at man ikke ved etablering af forbindelser med COMECON som sådan svækker de bilaterale forbindelser med de lande, der er medlem mer af COMECON.
The list is drawn up in the form of a decision pursuant to Article 189 of the Treaty and is, as the honourable Member knows, addressed to the Member States, since there is no obligation under the Treaty to publish decisions of the kind in question. The Council also did not consider publication expedient in this case.
Det ville være et politisk meget forkert signal at afsende til de lande, som har et ind lysende behov for at få udbygget deres bilaterale for bindelser med os.
As the informal meeting in Copenhagen on 7 September the Council was informed that the Belgian Government was in principle planning to introduce a motorway sticker.
Ellemann-Jensen
Ellemann-Jensen early stage as the present.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 80 af Alavanos (H399/87):
But let me remind you that the Commission is the guardian of the Treaty, and it is the Commission's task to keep an eye for Member States which break the rules.
Om : Liste til EØF-Traktatens artikel 223, stk. 2 man være meget forsigtig med. Jeg må sige til hr. Alavanos, at jeg forstod også spørgsmålet som kritisk.
Under this procedure a Member State considering measures which would affect the implementation of the common transport policy must inform the Com mission in writing of these plans at an early stage and at the same time inform the other Member States.
Jeg noterer mig, at han ser anderledes på denne sag end Rådet.
PRESIDENT. — We now move on to the questions to the Foreign Ministers.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 81 af von Wogau (H406/87):
Question No 82 by Mr Lalor (H-348/87):
Om : Indførelse af motorvejsafgifter i Belgien
Subject: Securing the release of Mr Brian Keenan from the Lebanon.
Hvorfor har Rådet indtil nu nægtet at offentliggøre denne liste i De Europæiske Fællesskabers Tidende?
Can the Foreign Ministers meeting in political cooperation give an account of any steps they have taken to secure the release of Mr Brian Keenan, who has been held prisoner in the Lebanon since 11 April 1986?
Har Rådet kendskab til, at Belgien agter at indføre motorvejsafgifter, og vil Rådet i denne forbindelse holde fast ved sit mål om afskaffelse af alle eksisterende motorvejsafgifter i Det Europæiske Fællesskabs medlemsstater?
ELLEMANN-JENSEN, President-in-Office of the Council of Foreign Ministers. — (DA) Unfortunately I have to say to Mr Lalor that the tragic and very difficult situation arising from the fact that citizens of Member States are reported missing in the Lebanon is a problem which the Member States concerned must try to solve on a bilateral basis.
Ellemann-Jensen, formand for Rådet. — I Traktatens artikel 223. stk. 2, tales der om en liste over varer, som omfattes af bestemmelsen i samme artikel stk. 1, litra b. Denne liste blev udarbejdet af Rådet for så længe siden som 15. april 1958; den er ikke ændret senere.
A short time ago the Commission sent to the Council a communication on the removal of distortions to com petition of a fiscal nature in the carriage of goods by road, the examination of duties on motor vehicles and fuels and road tolls.
I øvrigt har Kommissionen heller ikke frem sat forslag om at ændre listen i henhold til artiklens stk. 3.
At the meeting in March this year the Council had an initial discussion on this communication.
Listen er udarbejdet i form af en beslutning i henhold til Traktatens artikel 189, og den er, som det ærede medlem ved, meddelt medlemsstaterne, idet der ikke i Traktaten er fastlagt nogen pligt til at offentliggøre beslutninger af den pågældende art; Rådet har heller ikke anset en offentliggørelse for hen sigtsmæssig i dette tilfælde.
At its meeting in June of this year it adopted a resolution concerning the removal of distortions to competition in road haulage, in which it reaffirms its intention to examine, among other fiscal elements, the question of road tolls. It called on the Commission to evaluate the differences observed in the field of duties and taxes which affect competition and to endeavour to present appropriate proposals to the Council by the end of 1987.
Jeg kan sige, at der ikke siden er indtruffet begivenheder, som har fået Rådet til at ændre sin holdning.
The Council noted finally that it is the Commission's intention to put forward proposals in this area as soon as possible, at the latest in Autumn of this year.
OK — det kræves ikke i Traktaten.
LALOR (RDE). — I am rather shattered by the reply from the President-in-Office of the Council.
Er der imidlertid noget til hinder for, at denne liste udleveres til Europa-Parlamentets medlemmer, som ønsker at kende den?
Is he aware of the fact that one of the hostages, Oral Corlea, when released some six months ago, carried a written message from Brian Keenan praying in the name of God that his friends be told that he was still alive?
På denne anmodning, som jeg også tror de andre kolleger kan tilslutte sig, svarer det danske formandskab : »Nej, vi giver Dem ikke denne liste«.
Surely then someone knows where he was held and who were holding him.
Ellemann-Jensen, formand for Rådet. — Jeg vil gerne gøre det ærede medlem opmærksom på, at dette spørgsmål, allerede blev drøftet i går i forbindelse med hr. Lalors betænkning.
I ask if more cannot be done to have him released, particulary now, Mr President, in the light of your statement on Monday last at the reopening of this par liamentary session.
På det uformelle møde i København den 7. september blev Rådet underrettet om, at den belgiske regering principielt agter at ind føre en motorvejsmærkat.
Surely it is not correct for the President-in-Office, in his capacity as Foreign Minister, to say that in that particular capacity this matter cannot be discussed?
Ved samme lejlighed blev det underrettet om, at der endnu ikke var vedtaget nogen lovtekst eller gennemførelsesforanstaltning.
I would ask him again to raise this matter afresh at Foreign Minister level.