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Linkohr (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, jeg vil især gerne have lov til at takke hr. kommissær Pandolfi for hans redegørelse, navnlig
LINKOHR (S). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I should particularly like to thank Mr Pandolfi for his statement, especially the last point, which confirms that ICL will not be excluded from collaborating in research with other European com panies and above all with the Community.
Linkohr sidste punkt, som bekræfter, at ICL ikke bliver udelukket fra forskningssamarbejdet med andre europæiske virksomheder, især fra EF.
It would certainly be a very strange way to proceed if a firm were to be punished because other European companies were not in a position to buy it.
Ifølge mine oplysninger er ICL tidligere blevet til budt til andre europæiske virksomheder; ingen har slået til.
According to my information, ICL was previously offered to other European com panies, but none of them were interested.
Vi må derudover tale om uddannelse, for ofte siges det, at vi ganske vist har pengene, man at vi ikke kan finde eksperterne på dette område.
Something I should like to say clearly at this point is that we should get away from the idea that we are facing a battle between continents, because that is not the case.
Altså er spørgsmålet om efterog videreuddannelse, kort sagt al uddannelse, en' ganske vigtig europæisk opgave.
We should take care not to discuss indusrial policy in military terms, even if we find these continually in the press.
Vi står muligvis ved indledningen til en hel serie overtagelser.
We are not engaged in an industrial war, either with the United States or Japan.
Tiderne har ændret sig.
Rather, as you yourself said.
Det, jeg gerne vil sige klart hér, er, at vi må undgå at give det indtryk, at vi står foran en kamp kontinenterne imellem, for det gør vi ikke.
Commissioner, the scaling-up of the industrial map to world level means that we have to move away from confrontation and towards cooperation.
Vi står ikke længere ved begyndelsen af firserne, men derimod ved indgangen til halvfemserne.
I see a series of tasks lying before us in the coming months, which means putting our relations with the Japanese, the Americans and others on a new footing of increased cooperation.
Jeg ser af Kommissionens årsberetning vedrørende ESPRIT, at væksten inden for informationsteknologi hos os er særlig høj — man kan vel ikke tage nogen det ilde op, at de også investerer her.
We can only become involved in cooperation if we are at a high level — yet another argument in favour of a European industrial policy.
Jeg mener, at der i de kommende måneder står en række opgaver foran os, der skal munde ud i, at man skal arbejde tættere sammen med japanerne, med amerikanerne, men også med andre.
I am also grateful to you for setting out the international background, since ICL is not a special case.
Det ude lukker ikke, at man selv også er stærk.
It may be that we are now at the beginning of a whole series of takeovers.
Man kan kun samarbejde, når man befinder sig på et højt niveau.
Times have changed — wc are no longer looking forward into the 1980s, but into the 1990s.
Derfor endnu en gang denne opfordring til en europæisk industripolitik.
We are confronted with an enormous balance of tradesurplus on the part of the Japanese, and this money will be invested somewhere, including Europe.
Jeg mener ligeledes, at vi bør teste japanske virksom heders vilje til at samarbejde, samtidig med at vi engagerer os stærkere i Japan, end det hidtil har været tilfældet.
I see from the Commission's annual report on Esprit that growth in our information technology sector is particularly high — who can be blamed, then, for investing here too?
Til det ændrede billede hører også De Forenede Staters enorme underskud og De Forenede Staters teknologiske svaghed inden for visse nøglesektorer, navnlig mikroelektronik.
I also think we should test the willingness of Japanese companies to cooperate, and at the same time be more active in Japan than is currently the case.
Lad mig sammenfatte: Jeg tror, at vor strategi som en europæisk fæstning har vist sig at være forkert eller rettere sagt, den lader sig ikke gennemføre.
To sum up, I believe our 'Fortress Europe' strategy has been proved wrong or, more accurately, cannot be put into effect.
Der findes ingen europæiske virksomheder, men derimod findes der aktieselskaber, som retter sig efter markedets love, og som ikke synger nogen nationalsang.
There arc no such things as European companies, but public companies which obey the laws of the marke and don't fly national flags.
Mens vi har klynget os til den illusion, at der fandtes sådan noget som en europæisk solidaritet mellem virksomhederne, erfarer vi næsten hver dag, at det ikke er tilfældet.
While we used to cling to the illusion that there was such a thing as solidarity between firms in Europe, we can see almost every day now that this is not the case.
Enhver er sin egen lykkes smed.
Each looks after number one.
Siemens samarbejder med IBM og Fujitsu, Daimler med Mitsubishi osv.; De har selv nævnt eksempler.
Siemens is cooperating with IBM and
Situationen har også ændret sig for de europæiske virksomheder. Kapitalgrundlaget er ikke blevet større, især ikke inden for de sektorer, vi taler om i dag.
Another part of this new picture is the huge deficit being run by the United States and its technology weaknesses in a number of key sectors, especially micro-electronics.
Jeg vil gerne endnu en gang opfordre Kommissionen til at bringe industri, Parlamentet, fagforeninger, kort sagt alle vægtige aktører i denne sammenhæng, sammen ved ét bord, således at vi kommer til at tale om mere end netop blot forskning.
Yet another part of the picture is disarmament, one effect of which is to make cooperation easier between Europe and America in micro-electronics and other technical fields.
Jeg håber, at der også fra Parlamentet vil udgå et initiativ herom, i det mindste vil vort udvalg gøre det.
Cooperation of this kind was previously more difficult because of the objections raised by the US Department of Defence.
Seligman (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg troede, at vi skulle have 30 minutters spørgsmål nu og en egentlig forhandling senere. Imidlertid ser det ud, som om vi er gået i gang med selve forhandlingen.
LINKOHR not want 'fortress Europe' to continue but we do not want 'fortress Japan' to develop.
Det vil være synd og skam ikke at have en egentlig forhandling senere.
I don't think this is a moral issue; these are laws of the market that have to be understood.
Ford (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg takker kommissær Pandolfi for hans redegørelse, som bortvejrede en del af vore bekymringer.
FORD (S). — Mr President, I thank Commissioner Pandolfi for his statement, in the course of which a number of concerns were alleviated.
Der har helt klart i min valgkreds i Det Forenede Kongerige været bekymring over Fujitsus foreslåede overtagelse, en bekymring der er blevet givet udtryk for fra nogle af arbejderne på en af ICL's fremstillingsvirksomheder, som er beliggende der.
Certainly, in my own constituency in the United Kingdom there has been concern about the proposed takeover by Fujitsu from some of the workers in one of the ICL manufacturing plants that are located there.
Min fagforening har ligeledes været bekymret, og naturligvis har vi på europæisk plan været bekymret over, hvad der mon vil ske i kølvandet af denne overtagelse.
My own trade union has also been concerned and, of course, we have been concerned at the European level about what is likely to happen following this takeover.
Fujitsu ICL-overtagelsen er et stormvarsel om det, der kan ske med Fællesskabets højteknologiindustri, såfremt vi tillader det.
SELIGMAN (ED). — Mr President, I though we were going to have a 30 minutes of questions now and a proper debate later.
Jeg vil gerne spørge, hvorfor Phillips-situationen har udviklet sig så hurtigt.
However, it seems that we have launched into the debate itself.
Det er endnu et stormvarsel.
It would be a pity not to have a proper debate later on.
Hvor går vi hen i relation til informationsteknologien, hvad er det, der er galt, og hvor vil det ende?
I would very much like to thank Commissioner Pandolfi for coming back all the way from Italy to give us this vital statement.
Jeg har udarbejdet et par spørgsmål til kommissæren.
He is to be congratulated on his speech.
Vi må sikre os, at Fujitsus overtagelse af ICL ikke bliver endnu et søm til den europæiske computerindustris ligkiste; at ICL ikke bliver anvendt som et sted, hvorfra japanske computere kan dumpes på det europæiske marked, og at det ikke bliver endnu et skridt i retning af at udskifte Europas bedste hjerner med skruetrækkere.
We have to ensure that the acquisition of ICL by Fujitsu is not going to be another nail in the coffin of the European computer industry ; that ICL is not going to be used as a conduit for dumping Japanese computers in Europe, and that it is not going to be another step in the de-skilling of Europe with Europe's best brains being traded for screwdrivers.
Hr. Pandolfis frygt for, at tyngdepunktet i europæisk industri flytter sig mere og mere uden for Europa, er en af de ting, der bekymrer os.
Mr Pandolfi's fear that the centre of gravity of European industry would be more and more outside Europe is one of the things that concern us. '
For det første, vil Kommissionen insistere på, at Fujitsus intentioner om at udvikle ICL's europæiske operationer bliver af bindende karakter?
The Fujitsu ICL takeover is a storm signal of what may happen to the Community's high technology industry if we allow it to.
Vi ønsker reelle, bindende tilsagn, ikke blot et brev fra selskabets ledelse.
I would like to ask why the Philips situation has developed so rapidly.
Dette arrangement bør omfatte sanktioner, såfremt tilsagnet ikke opfyldes fremover.
That is another storm signal. Where are we going in IT, what is wrong and where is it going to finish ?
Vi ønsker en eller anden form for aftale, ikke blot et brev.
I have prepared one or two questions for the Commissioner.
Det er således et spørgsmål om arbejdspladser.
It is a question of R and D to make sure that we maintain the high technology R and D in Europe.
Det er en chance for at arbejde sammen med Japan for at dæmme op for de amerikanske computerfirmaers indtog på det europæiske marked.
This could well, however, be an opportunity for Europe's computer industry. It is an opportunity for working with Japan to break the throttlehold of US computer companies in Europe.
Når alt kommer til alt, får USA tre ud af fire ECU, der anvendes i Europa til køb af mainframedatamater.
After all, the US gets three out of every four ecus spent in Europe on mainframe computers.
USA frem stiller 50 % af de datamater, der i øjeblikket bruges i Europa, og IBM hentede i 1989 71 % af sine indtægter i Europa.
The US produces 50% of the computers that are used in Europe and IBM, in 1989, relied on Europe to fund 71% of its income.
Der var fare for, at den europæiske computerindustri var ved at forsvinde.
There was a danger that the European computer industry was going to disappear.
Europa må kæmpe imod, også selv om det bliver med japansk assistance, hvilket er helt fint, idet realiterne tilsiger, at ICL sandsynligvis ikke ville have overlevet på lang sigt.
Europe must stand up and if needs Japanese help, all well and good because realism says that ICL was unlikely to have survived alone in the long term.
For det tredje, vil Kommissionen fremlægge et diskussionsoplæg vedrørende et samarbejde om forskning og udvikling med udenlandskejede virksom heder i EF, som anført i artikel 58, 130 N og 228 i Den Europæiske Fælles Akt.
Secondly, will the Commission negotiate an agreement on cooperation with Japan in the area of R and D and information technology ? We want this agreement to be based on reciprocity and to include equal access to Japanese research and development and to the Japanese market for IT.
I artikel 58 bestemmes det, at der skal være ligestilling af virksomheder, hvis vedtægtsmæssige hjemsted, hovedkontor eller hovedvirksomhed er beliggende inden for Fællesskabet.
It seems to me at the moment that takeovers are all in one direction — 292 in the first part of this year — and very few are the other way.
ICL gjorde et forsøg med at få en EF-fusion i stand, men det viste sig ikke at være muligt.
ICL made an attempt to try and get an intra-European merger but it proved no to be possible.
Måske er det symbolsk for situationen for de højteknologiske industrier i Europa.
Maybe that is symbolic of the state of the high technology industries in Europe.
Hvis vi kunne have fået en sådan europæisk pakke, ville det have fået markeds andelen til at skyde i vejret.
If we could have got such a European package it would have boosted the market share.
Det ville have fremmet samarbejdet på det højteknologiske område, og det ville have sparet en masse spildte ressourcer, som i øjeblikket sættes ind separat i stedet for samlet på forskning.
It would have helped high-tec cooperation and it would have saved a lot of wasted resources that are currently spent separately rather than together on research.
Men det viste sig ikke at være muligt.
But that proved not to be possible.
Og endelig, hvorfor har klubben af 12 informationsteknologivirksomheder nu ekskluderet ICL af deres medlemskreds?
Finally, why has the Round Tabic if 12 IT firms now excluded ICL from their membership? Certainly we do
Vi ønsker afgjort ikke nogen »europæisk fæstning« fremover, men vi ønsker ikke, at der skal dannes en japansk fæstning.
I am concerned about the issue of symmetry and reciprocity and I certainly would like to see some symmetry in Japan with European firms welcome to participate, for example, in the human frontier science programme. But we cannot cut off our nose to spite our face.
Vi vil have dem skriftligt.
We want them in writing.
Dernæst må vi sikre os, at vi får det bedste ud af de muligheder, der står til rådighed.
Then we must make sure we make the most of the opportunities that are available.
Jeg mener, at vi oplever, at frygten for, at Fujitsus overtagelse har gjort ICL til en japansk marionet, er grundløs, hvis vi kan få disse skriftlige tilsagn.
Under the terms of this agreement, ICL gained access to Fujitsu's advance semiconductor technology for its use in ICL mainframe computers.
ICL er ikke et datterselskab af Fujitsu.
ICL then designed the chips which were then manufactured by Fujitsu.
I henhold til ESPRIT-reglerne er ICL nødt til at beskytte over førsel af information, og det er indlysende, at distancen i forholdet til Fujitsu skal opretholdes.
The simple fact that Fujitsu is interestes in marketing ICL's DRX6000 mid-range mainframe in Japan could give the European IT industry the boost that it needs and an entry inro the Japanese market.
ICL må fortsat have adgang til Fællesskabets forskningsprogrammer, og det har kommissær Pandolfi lovet.
ICL must continue to have access to Eurpean Com munity research programmes and that has been promised by Commissioner Pandolfi.
Men ICL må fortsat blive involveret i nogle af de styringsgrupper, som i øjeblikket er ved at blive organiseret af Det Europæiske Fællesskab, således som det skitseres i Den Socialistiske Gruppes beslut ningsforslag.
However, ICL must also still be involved in some of the management groups that are actually being organized by the European Community as well, as is outlined in the Socialist Group's resolution.
Jeg vil gerne have en forsikring fra kommissær Pandolfi om, at det også vil være tilfældet.
I would like an assurance from Commissioner Pandolfi that this is going to be the case as well.
Vi har nu gennem det, der kunne have været et europæisk joint venture, men nu er blevet et japansk/europæisk joint venture, en mulighed for at kunne konkurrere med held med USA, at forsøge at genskabe større europæisk selvstændighed på det europæiske computermarked.
We now have, through what could have been a European venture but is now a joint Europe-Japan venture, an opportunity to try to compete successfully with the US, to try and restore more European autonomy in the European computer market.
I henhold til bestemmelserne i denne aftale fik ICL adgang til Fujitsus avancerede halvlederteknologi til anvendelse i ICL's mainframedatamater. ICL designede så de chips, som senere blev fremstillet af Fujitsu.
POLLACK (S). — Mr President, first of all I would like to thank the Commissioner for coming before the House at such a late hour and making such a constructive speech to us today.
Jeg var glad for at høre af ham, at der ikke kan blive tale om at udelukke ICL fra ESPRIT-programmet i øjeblikket, og også at ESPRIT må gøres til genstand for en nøje analyse.
I was glad to hear from him that there will be no exclusion of ICL from the ESPRIT programme at the moment and also that ESPRIT needs a very close analysis.
Jeg er glad for at høre, at Kommissionen er gået i gang hermed.
I am glad to hear that the Commission is beginning to undertake that.
Jeg går ud fra, at den i fuldt omfang vil involvere Parlamentet heri.
I trust that they will fully involve parliament in this.
Jeg var også meget interesseret i at høre kommissærens udtalelse om, at et af de vigtigste aspekter, der må ses på ud fra en europæisk synsvinkel, er en stimulering af efterspørgslen.
I was also very interested to hear the Commissioner's statement that one of the crucial aspects that needs looking at from the European point of view is the stimulation of demand.
Som De ved, er vi i øjeblikket i Storbritannien på vej ind i en meget dyb recession, med den ene arbejdsplads efter den anden, der forsvinder for hver dag, der går.
As you know, we are settling into a very deep recession in Britain at the moment, with job losses heaping on each other daily.
Dette spørgsmål er nu ved at blive meget presserende og vigtigt.
This question is now becoming extremely urgent and important.
Jeg er glad for, at vi begynder at se på det.
I am glad we are starting to look at it.
Jeg har interesseret mig for deres aktivitet, siden jeg blev valgt sidste år.
I have taken an interest in their activity since 1 was elected last year.
Jeg har altid været imponeret over deres dynamiske, fremadrettede og åbne holdning.
I have always been impressed by their dynamic, forward-thinking and open approach.
Jeg tror, at dette er blevet åbenlyst i forbindelse med denne overtagelse.
That is being manifested here with this takeover.
Og ligeledes deres effektivitet.
As is their efficiency.
Jeg ved, at selskabet helt klart identificerer sig selv som et europæisk selskab både historisk set og fremover.
1 know that the company very clearly identifies itself as a European company both historically and lor the future.
Jeg er glad for, at det betragtes som sådant, og føler virkelig, at det opfyl-
I am glad that it is being considered as such, and very strongly feel that it meets the terms of Article 58 of the Treaty.
Et af de mest indlysende problemer, der fremstår efter denne sag, er, at Fællesskabets informationsteknologiske politik, der er udviklet med henblik på firserne, nu må omformuleres hurtigt og radikalt.
Not only is 6070% of ICL's business in the UK, but it has a European sourcing policy, which I believe is very important in the struggle against unemployment in Europe.
Den passer ikke længere på halvfemserne og derefter.
In 1986, 35% of its bits were sourced in Europe. This is now up to 50%.
Den gamle formel omkring ejerskab er ikke længere relevant.
That shows a strong commitment to the European Community.
Pollack foreninger, som er involveret i denne industri.
Debates of the European Parliament
Formanden. — Forhandlingen er afsluttet. ')
PRESIDENT. — The debate is closed. '
(Mødet hævet kl. 12.30)
(The sitting was closed at 12.30 p.m.)
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Membership of Committees — Declarations entered on the register (Rule 65) — Forwarding of resolutions adopted during the sitting — Date of next part-session : see Minutes.
Pris i Luxembourg (moms ikke medregnet) Årsabonnement 1990-1991: ECU 135
Price (excluding VAT) in Luxembourg: Annual subscription 1990/1991: ECU 135.
Enkeltnummer : Prisen er fastsat i hvert enkelt tilfælde og påtrykt hæftet. Særlige forsendelsesomkostninger faktureres separat.
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KONTORET FOR DE EUROPÆISKE FÆLLESSKABERS OFFICIELLE PUBLIKATIONER a • *«u.*» « OP *
OFFICE FOR OFFICIAL PUBLICATIONS OF THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITIES
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Fuldstændigt referat af møderne fra den 19. til den 23. november 1990
Report of proceedings from 19 to 23 November 1990
Mødet mandag den 19. november 1990
Sitting of Monday, 19 November 1990
Mødet tirsdag den 20. november 1990
Sitting of Tuesday, 20 November 1990
Mødet onsdag den 21. november 1990
Sitting of Wednesday, 21 November 1990
Originalteksten til de oversatte taler findes i den udgave, der udsendes på den pågældende talers sprog.
The original texts of these interventions appear in the edition published in the languagespoken.
Mødet torsdag den 22. november 1990
Sitting of Thursday, 22 November 1990
Mødet fredag den 23. november 1990
Sitting of Friday, 23 November 1990
Beslutninger, som er vedtaget under moderne fra den 19. til den 23. november 1990, bekendtgøres i De Europæiske Fællesskabers Tidende C 324, 22.12.1990.
Resolutions adopted at sittings of ¡9 to 23 Noi'ember 1990 appear in the Official Journal of the European Communities C 324, 24.12.1990.
MØDET MANDAG DEN 19. NOVEMBER 1990
SITTING OF MONDAY, 19 NOVEMBER 1990
Skader forårsaget af affald — Betænkning (dok. A3-272/90) af Ferri
Damage caused by waste — report (Doc.
Beskyttelse af naturlige og delvis naturlige levesteder (Afstemning) — Betænkning (dok.
Protection of natural and semi-natural habitats (vote) — report (Doc.
A3-254/90) af Muntingh
A3-254/90) by Mr Muntingh
Formanden. — Jeg erklærer Europa-Parlamentets session, der blev afbrudt den 26. oktober 1990, for genoptaget.
PRESIDENT. — I declare resumed the session of the European Parliament, which was adjourned on 26 October 1990.
Formanden. — Protokollen fra mødet fredag den 26. oktober er omdelt.
PRESIDENT. — The Minutes of the sitting of Friday, 26 October have been circulated.
Hvis ingen gør indsigelse, betragter jeg den som godkendt.
That was at 4.15 in the afternoon.
Det var kl. 16.15 om eftermiddagen.
Arc there any comments ?
Via en meddelelse i plenum lykkedes det at kalde Udvalget om Retlige Anliggender og Borgernes Rettigheder sammen, men ordføreren og mange andre medlemmer kunne på grund af denne yderst korte frist ikke deltage.
On the Friday Parliament decided not to comply with this recommendation, of which it had been informed by the vice-chairman of the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights.
Under disse omstændigheder var der ikke mulighed for at afgive en seriøs udtalelse om et i øvrigt ret så kompliceret emne.
The contention in the minutes that the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights was consulted remains incorrect.
Retsudvalget besluttede derfor enstemmigt, at det ikke var muligt at gennemføre en høring under disse omstændigheder og henstillede til Parlamentet at udsætte afstemningen.
In its dealings with the Council and Commission Parliament has always emphasized — with good reason and with the backing of the Court of Justice — that
Von Stauffenberg (PPE), formand for Udvalget om Retlige Anliggender og Borgernes Rettigheder. —
VON STAUFFENBERG (PPE), chairman of the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights. — (DE) Mr President, I have already written to you about the minutes of the sitting of 26 October, but I feel bound to request corrections to two items in the minutes.
Parlamentet fulgte ikke fredag denne henstilling fra Retsudvalgets næstformand.
Labour Party to present apologies for non­attendance today on behalf of Sir Christopher Prout.
Det er således ukorrekt, når det i protokollen hævdes, at Retsudvalget er blevet hørt.
He is in London making an important announcement to the Conservative 1922 Committee.