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Når der består uenighed om et bestemt punkt mellem Parlamentet og Kommissionen, vil Kommissionen da være så elskværdig at høre Parlamentet, inden den selv intervenerer i sagen ved Domstolen for at give Kommissionen mulighed for at udøve sit ansvar i henhold til artikel 155. som er fastslået af Domstolen i sag nr. 302/87 om komitologien?
My question is a very simple one. Can the Commission defend the European Parliament's case in the 'recours en annulation' when the Commission is opposed to Parliament in substance, as it is in both the commitology and Chernobyl cases?
» Kommissionen har altid været af den opfattelse, at Parlamentet i lighed med de andre institutioner har ret til at fremsætte krav om annullation af Rådets eller Kommissionnens beslutninger. På regeringskonferencen fremsatte Kommissionen et sådant forslag, som imidlertid ikke vedtoges.
BLOCH VON BLOTTNITZ (ARC). — (DE) I would like President Delors to give a clear and simple answer, without evasion, to the question of what will happen in future.
Donnez (LDR). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg er tilfreds med hr. Delors' svar, fordi jeg ikke betvivler hans fulde og hele gode tro.
VEIL (LDR). — (FR) Mr President, our Group tabled this question which has now given rise to a statement by the Commission.
Derimod har det overhovedet ikke tilfredsstillet mig. hvad angår Tjernobyl- sagens fremtid.
We have been given satisfaction on one point in that President Delors has told us that, on the level of principle, he supports our position.
Om man kan lide det eller ej. så giver Dom stolen i sin første dom udtryk for det stik modsatte af det, som hr. Delors netop har sagt.
He told us: 'On the matter of admissibility, I agree with you, you ought to be able to bring actions'.
Parlamentet mener det samme som ham. nemlig at vi bor have ret til direkte at anlægge sag ved Domstolen.
When President Delors uttered the key phrase that surely the Commission could not be in contradiction with itself, did that not quite simply mean: the Com mission is prepared to protect the interests of Parliament to the extent it considers this protection opportune in terms of its own interests?
Formanden. — I henhold til artikel 56, stk. 2, kan medlemmerne inden for en periode på i alt tredive minutter stille korte, præcist formulerede spørgsmål til belysning af særlige punkter i redegørelsen.
I have just one question for the President of the Com mission: is there any article that precludes the President of the Commission or the Commission itself, by reason of its position as defender of Parliament's prerogatives and guarantor of application of the Treaties, from making representations to Parliament in support of the principle of the admissibility of its action?
Vayssade (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, tak for Deres netop fremsatte udtalelse.
WEBER (S), Chairman of the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection. — (DE) Mr President, may I remind you briefly of the case in question.
Jeg tror, at den var vigtig i den øjeblikkelige sammenhæng.
At the request of the Commission the Council laid down what Parliament regards as inad-
I sit andet svar siger hr. Delors, at der er et juridisk tomrum.
ment, but that when Parliament needs the Commission, it cannot expect that protection?
Vi regner med, at Parlamentet siger noget, måske endda imod os«.
The position is very straightforward, then.
Det er den eneste måde, hvorpå vi kan komme ud af det. ellers har vi overhovedet ingen rettigheder over for Dom stolen.
The Com mission is represented by an agent before the Court of Justice.
Og som jeg sagde for lidt siden, vi vil så ikke længere være noget retsfællesskab.
This agent will begin by conveying the state ment that I have just made, in support of submissions arguing that Parliament's action is admissible, even before any discussion of the merits.
Det vil være meget kedeligt at skulle gøre en sådan konstatering!
More than that I do not think we can do.
(Bifald fra højre)
(Loud applause)
Delors, formand for Kommissionen. — (FR) Hr. for mand, for at der kan herske fuld klarhed os imellem, tror jeg, at der er to punkter, der fortjener nogle kom mentarer.
PRESIDENT. — The time for questions to the Com mission is now over.
Coste-FIoret (RDE). — (FR) Ja, men nu stiller jeg et spørgsmål.
SUTRA DE GERMA (S). — (FR) Mr President, we discussed this on Monday afternoon at a joint meeting of the Committees on Institutional Affairs and Legal Affairs.
Når der er modstridende interesser som i den foreliggende sag, så melder spørgsmålet sig selv følgelig.
We have no mandate from our committees to ask the President of the Commission to speak against himself or against the Commission's opinion.
Hr. Delors siger, at Kommissionen som Par lamentets advokat ikke kan indtage en anden hold ning, end den har indtaget til sagens realitet.
But above all we have no mandate to ask him to make representations on behalf of Parliament.
Under regeringskonferencen foreslog vi for det andet, at Europa- Parlamentet skulle kunne appellere Rådets og Kommissionens beslutninger på lige fod med an dre parter, hvilket blev besvaret benægtende, hvilket vil sige, at det ikke lod sig gøre at opnå enstemmig hed mellem de i regeringskonferencen deltagende lande.
Recommendation for the second reading (Doc. A 2225/88) by the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and Industrial Policy, concerning the common position of the Council with a view to the adoption of a Council Directive amending several directives concern ing the approximation of the laws of the Member States with a provision in those directives for publica tion in the Official Journal of the European Communities of attestations and certificates (Doc. C 2-126/88) (Rapporteur: Mr Beumer)
Staes (ARC). — (NL) Hr. formand, til Forretningsordenen. Det står hr. Delors frit for, sådan som han netop har gjort det, at sammenligne dette Parlament med en station.
ELLES, The Lady (ED), Chairman of the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights. — Mr President, President Delors has made a very important political statement.
Det er karakteristisk for en station, at togene ikke blot ankommer til tiden, men at de også afgår til tiden.
We have to abide by the ruling handed down by the Court of Justice, No 302/87.
Ja, sådan har det været i 31 år!
May I remind him of paragraph 27.
Man bør tænke på udviklingen af den institutionelle trekant: Råd-Parlament- Kommission.
I am afraid I have to read it in French because we do not have the English text:
Men vi har ikke mulighed for at omsætte dette pres på juridisk plan.
(Parliament approved the common position)
Så drager jeg en anden lære af denne debat.
Recommendation for the second reading (Doc.
Nemlig at vor stilling er vanskelig i den foreliggende sag, idet Rådet med hensyn til sagens realitet har accepteret vort forslag.
A 2209/88) by the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights, concerning the common position of the Council on the proposal from the Commission for a first directive to approximate the laws of the Member States relating to trade marks (Doc. C 2-132/88) (Rapporteur: Mr Turner)
Mere kan man ikke sige om det i dag.
(Parliament approved the common position)
Coste-FIoret (RDE). - (FR) Kære kolleger, hr. De lors' første svar tilfredsstillede mig med hensyn til det formelle, idet han sagde, at Kommissionen i sådanne sager støtter det synspunkt, at Parlamentets annullationssøgsmål vedrørende Ministerrådets beslutninger ikke kan afvises.
This is a responsibility laid on the shoulders of the Commission. I understand, of course, that in this particular case we have the differences between substance and admissibility which many Members of this Parliament have raised today.
Men vi står over for en afgørelse fra Domstolen, der siger det modsatte, nemlig at Parla
I would like to propose to the President of the Commission that he should not make a formal reply today because I think it is impossible to do so, but we in the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights and, I am sure, in the Committee on Institutional Affairs, would like to take this up in debate, in consultation and in dialogue with the Commission to resolve what is at the moment an impasse for both our institutions.
Jeg forstår overhovedet ikke formandens første svar.
Recommendation for the second reading (Doc.
Selvfølgelig kan Kommissionen sige, at Parlamentets klage mod Rådet ikke bør afvises, selv om vi er af en anden opfattelse med hensyn til sagens realitet.
A 2210/88) by the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights, concerning the common position of the Council on the proposal from the Commission for a directive on the information to be published when a
Det kan Kom missionen udmærket sige, hr. kommissionsformand.
Calendar of part-sessions for the second half of 1989: see minutes.
Rothley politiske grunde, der forhindrer eller forbyder Kom missionen at fremsætte en sådan erklæring over for EF- Domstolen.
President major holding in a listed company is acquired or disposed of (Doc. C 2-139/88) (Rapporteur: Mr Prout)
sker her. Jeg — og andre medlemmer — forstod i formiddags klart og tydeligt på hr. Delors, at han vil sige : » Vi har en anden opfattelse af sagen « — det er helt klart, og det har vi heller ikke noget imod — ; men han vil erklære vort søgsmål for antageligt.
(Parliament approved the common position) taken an important step to tighten up its methods of work, in a spirit of rare unanimity, now that a number of additional decisions may henceforth be taken by the responsible committee.
Formanden. — Fru Bloch von Blottnitz, det er kun tilladt at stille spørgsmål.
According to the applicable legal provisions, it is a rule that will apply in future, i.e. will enter into force in November under Rule 132 of the Rules of Procedure.
Prag (ED). — (EN) Mit spørgsmål til hr. Delors er ikke uvenligt.
Recommendation for the second reading (Doc.
Bloch von Blottnitz (ARC). - (DE) Jeg vil kort og godt uden udflugter af nogen art have hr. Delors til at svare på spørgsmålet om, hvad der sker i fremtiden.
(Parliament approved the common position as amended)
Veil (LDR). — (FR) Hr. formand, gruppen havde stil let en forespørgsel, der blev lavet om til en redegørelse fra Kommissionen.
FONTAINE (PPE), rapporteur. — (FR) Mr President, this will only take a moment.
På et punkt er vi tilfredse, nemlig når hr. Delors siger, at han teoretisk støtter vor holdning.
I just want to say that this morning the Commission agreed to accept Parliament's amendments as long as they were voted.
Han siger: »Hvad angår sagens antage lighed, er jeg enig med Dem.
I refer to the Legal Affairs Committee's two amendments, those tabled by our colleagues Mr Munch and Mr Janssen van Raay.
De bør have mulighed for at indlede søgsmål. «
Since these amendments have now been voted, I note the undertaking given by the Com mission.
Stauffenberg (PPE). - (DE) Hr. formand, jeg har et spørgsmål til Kommissionens formand. Når hr. De lors forblommet siger, at Kommissionen ikke kan være i modstrid med sig selv, betyder det så ikke ganske enkelt, at Kommissionen varetager Parlamentets interesser, så længe den anser det for formålstjenligt i relation til sine egne interesser!
I do not think it necessary to avail myself of Rule 51(4) to ask the question again, but thank the Commission for having understood and shared Parliament's concerns.
Et enkelt spørgsmål til Kommissionens formand : Er der en artikel, der forhindrer Kommissionens for mand eller Kommissionen som forsvarer af Parlamentets rettigheder og som garant for Traktaternes gennemførelse at handle over for Parlamentet for at støtte princippet om retten til at rejse sagen?
So it is a report about amending Rules 37, 63 and 121. Secondly, on the question of owninitiative reports authorized by the enlarged Bureau may I say that in my view we must proceed a little more selectively here in future, in the interests of relieving the burden on our House.
Eller sagt med andre ord, hr. Delors: Vil det ikke og skal det ikke betyde, at De er villig til — i overensstemmelse med Domstolens opfattelse — at varetage Parlamentets interesse, så længe Kommissionen har brug for Parlamentet, men at man ikke skal forvente denne beskyttelse, når Parlamentet har brug for Kommissionen?
VEIL (LDR). — (FR) Mr President, the majority of my Group will not be voting for these amendments to the Rules of Procedure. Unlike the previous speaker, I think we have just made a very serious mistake that we are going to regret.
Wijsenbeek (LDR). — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg vil ger ne spørge formanden for Kommissionen, om der ikke er mulighed for at lade vores repræsentant procedere for retten på Kommissionens vegne, når Kommissionen har anlagt en sag ved Domstolen, der vedrører os?
A 2-193/88) by Mr Amadei, on behalf of the Committee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities, on an amend ment to Rule 36(1) and (5) of the Rules of Procedure of the European Parliament
Weber (S), formand for Udvalget om Miljøanliggender, Sundhed og Forbrugerbeskyttelse. — (DE) Hr. formand, jeg vil ganske kort erindre om sagen.
(Parliament adopted the decision)
Jeg spørger Dem: Hvad skal man i grunden forstå ved samarbejde mellem institutionerne, hvis der ikke er skabt sikkerhed for, at Par lamentet principielt har ret til at forelægge en sådan afgørelse for EF-Domstolen?
We have just decided that owninitiative reports are to be voted on by committees, exercising powers delegated by the House.
For det andet: Betyder komitologidommen andet, end at Kommissionen får til opgave i en sådan situation at varetage Parlamentets interesser, selv om den har en anden opfattelse af sagen?
That means that we are going to undermine the power of the House, by giving voting powers over owninitiative reports to committees which, as we are well aware, are often not representative of the House.
Sutra de Germa (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, vi har drøftet dette mandag eftermiddag på fællesmødet mellem Udvalget om Institutionelle Spørgsmål og Udvalget om Retlige Anliggender og Borgernes Ret tigheder.
Report (Doc. A 2-194/88) by Mr Newton Dunn, on behalf of the Committee on the Rules of Procedure, the Verification of Credentials and Immunities, on the amendment to Rules 37 and 63 of the Rules of Proce dure of the European Parliament
Bloch von Blottnitz (ARC). — (DE) Hr. formand, når man ikke kan og ikke vil give et klart svar, vil sagen altid blive mere og mere tåget.
In an attempt to get away from the plethora of owninitiative reports, we have just done exactly the opposite of what we should have done.
Det er netop det, der
We are perfect fools.
Lady Elles (ED), formand for Udvalget om Retlige Anliggender og Borgernes Rettigheder. — (EN) Hr. formand, hr. Delors er fremkommet med en me-
ROGALLA (S). — (DE) Mr President, I would just like to point out that the European Parliament has
Ladv Elles ropæiske Fællesskabers Tidende af de deri nævnte attester og certifikater (Ordfører: Beumer)
Veil do this in plenary, we delegate powers to committees to do the work on our behalf. Bravo!
Men han og hele Parlamentet er bekendt med, at vi befinder os i et retsfællesskab.
Nothing of all that is to be found here.
Vi skal respektere Domstolens dom i sag nr. 302/87.
Parliament now refers as much as possible to the committees.
Jeg vil gerne minde ham om styk­ke 27:
After all, democratic decisions are being taken.
Indstilling ved anden behandling (dok.
People are acting as if this Parliament were a real par liament.
(Den fælles holdning godkendtes)
ARBELOA MURU (S), in writing. — (ES) There exists an old proposal for a resolution that I came up with.
Indstilling ved anden behandling (dok.
The author of the report, Newton Dunn, does not quote it.
Dette ansvar er overdraget til Kommissionen.
What I did went much further than this report.
(Den fælles holdning godkendtes)
This report does less than that.
Delors, formand for Kommissionen. — (FR) Hr. for­mand mine damer og herrer, Kommissionen svarer bekræftende på Lady Elles' forslag om at fortsætte overvejelserne. Alle de øvrige spørgsmål vedrørte den foreliggende sag.
It delegates decision making in the committees to owninitiative reports and all proposals for a resolution.
Indstilling ved anden behandling (dok.
This is something, of course.
A2­220/88) fra Udvalget om Retlige Anliggender og Borgernes Rettigheder vedrørende Rådets fælles holdning (dok.
Article 63, in its amended form, has it that the speaking time allotted the users of parliamentary iniatives shall be reduced.
C2­125/88) til forslag til direktiv om indførelse af en generel ordning for gensidig anerkendelse af eksamensbeviser for erhvervskompetencegivende vide­regående uddannelser af mindst tre års varighed (Ordfører: Fontaine)
At least the committees are slightly more interested in these than they have been up to now in the proposals of the par liamentarians.
Denne be­fuldmægtigede begynder med at fremsætte samme er­klæring, som jeg fremsatte for Dem, for at støtte Par­lamentets anmodning om, at sagen ikke afvises, end­nu inden forhandlingen om sagens realitet.
And not, as now, put itself in a suit of armour, a straitjacket, which restricts and belittles their freedom of movement and, above all, that of Members who are not in the Bureau and have not been given a specific function.
(Den således ændrede fælles holdning godkendtes)
I therefore call on all Members who still believe in MPs' right of personal initiative to vote against the revision of Article 63.
(Bifald)
(Parliament adopted the decision)
Formanden. — Tiden for spørgsmål til Kommissio­nen er hermed opbrugt. ')
C 2-48/88) for a regulation on the control of concentrations between undertakings
Fontaine (PPE), ordfører. — (ER) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne ganske kort tage ordet for at sige, at Kom­missionen i formiddags lovede at overtage Parlamen­tets ændringsforslag, hvis de blev vedtaget.
VANDEMEULEBROUCKE (ARC), in writing. — (NL) The taking together of the amendments of Articles 37 and 63 of the Rules of Procedure is not a healthy matter.
Det skete for Retsudvalgets to ændringsforslags vedkommende, nemlig hr. Munch og hr. Janssen van Raays æn­dringsforslag.
That Parliament should try as far as possi ble to pass on purely technical questions to the com mittees is normal: the revision of Article 37 allows that.
Da disse ændringsforslag er vedtaget, tager jeg derfor Kommissionens løfte til efterretning.
But that one should, at the same stroke, seek to restrict Members' own initiatives is most dubious.
Jeg anser det ikke for nødvendigt på ny at stille spørgsmålet i forbindelse med artikel 51, stk. 4, men jeg takker Kommissionen for at have lagt forståelse for dagen og for at dele Parlamentets ønsker.
I am not referring here to the limiting of motions for resolutions to 200 words, that in itself is no disaster: a motion for a resolution introduces a subject and that should be possible within 200 words.
A2­225/88) fra Udvalget om Økonomi, Valutaspørgsmål og Indu­stripolitik vedrørende Rådets fælles holdning (dok.
I think it is very widely known that a more farreaching proposal suddenly appeared during the discussions in committee.
C2­126/88) til forslag til direktiv om ændring af flere direktiver om tilnærmelse af medlemsstaternes lovgivning for så vidt angår offentliggørelse i De Eu­
The Commission should take note for the future that this kind of thing makes life very difficult for the rapporteur and also for the committee which has to deal with it.
A2­193/88) af Amadei for Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlem­
So I must ask you whether you will now take on the amended version of Amend ment No 69 and No 27 in its original version.
Mødekalender for andet halvår af 1989 ■ Dagsorden: se Pro­ tokollen.
What is important in this Parliament? That we should dance to the tune of the Commission and the Council?
mernes Immunitet om ændring af Forretningsordenens artikel 36, stk. 1 og 5
SUTHERLAND, Member of the Commission. — The answer is yes, the Commission is prepared to take on the two amendments.
(Forslaget til afgørelse vedtoges) initiativ-betænkningerne.
These amendments help to ensure that workers' rights are more or less guaranteed.
Det vil for det første sige. at vi svækker Parlamentets beføjelser, og at vi giver udvalgene, hvorom vi udmærket ved, at de ikke altid er repræsentative for Parlamentet, mulighed for at vedtage initiativbetænkninger.
Of course, that is in itself quite inadequate, for a great deal more besides needs to be regulated for employees, but anyway it is a small step in the right direction.
Vi opmuntrer nemlig udvalgene til at behandle endnu flere betænkninger, udarbejde endnu flere dokumenter, give endnu mere arbejde til tolke, oversættere og dokumentalister, og vi får så endnu mindre tid til det institutionelle arbejde, vi har fået overdraget.
I hope the Council will be sensible enough to follow this path and, just like Parliament, to look for once further than just the interests of the employers, which are always more than well enough served, whereas the employees' interests are given lowest priority.
Vi er de rene papirsmørere.
That means they always have to fight for their rights.
Arbeloa Muru (S), skriftlig. — (ES) Et af mine gamle forslag til beslutning, som ikke citeres af ordføreren, hr. Newton Dunn, gik meget længere end den nuværende betænkning. Det gik ind for at overdrage beføjelse til at træffe lovgivningsmæssig beslutning til ud valgene, uden at Parlamentets plenarforsamling skulle behandle hver eneste betænkning.
ARGUELLES SALAVERRIA (ED). — (ES) Mr President, despite the result of the vote we have just held, I wish to say that the European Democratic Group will be voting in favour of the report and the proposal for a resolution because we agree with the principles behind the initiative.
Regalia (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, jeg vil blot gøre opmærksom på, at Europa-Parlamentet med en sjælden enighed har gjort et skridt til stramning af arbej det, idet en række tillægsbeslutninger nu kan træffes af det korresponderende udvalg.
BAILLOT (COM). — (FR) Mr President, this is yet another proposal in which neither the views nor the rights of workers and their representatives have been taken into consideration.
Anden bemærkning: Denne procedure skal bidrage til aflastning af plenum.
The text before us puts one in mind of arsonists who cry fire.
Efter de gældende retsforskrifter er det en ordning, som skal gælde i fremtiden i hen hold til Forretningsordenens artikel 132, der træder i kraft i november.
One year on from the stock market crash in October 1987, the first step that the Hanover European Council took towards completion of the single market was to launch a financial area to be established by 1990, which gives satisfaction to no one but the multinationals in Europe, whether based in the Com munity or elsewhere, in other words the United States and Japan.
Det er altid noget. Eftersom antallet af ord til at give udtryk for politiske initiativer i henhold til den ændrede artikel 63 nu begrænses, må vi håbe. at udvalgene viser lidt større interesse end hidtil for parlamentsmedlemmernes forslag.
The purpose of this proposal for a regulation is there fore to accommodate the law of money, in fact the law of the financial jungle, after it has been allowed to wreak maximum devastation.
For det tredje knytter der sig også en stramning af udvalgsarbejdet hertil, og ved denne lejlighed skal der gøres opmærksom på, at udvalgene nu får større ind flydelse på sagernes afgørelse.
Today it is not possible to defend the idea of a strong united Europe built on an economic system based on market freedom while, at the same time, forever seeking in the escape clause the easy way out.
Og at ordførerne erkender, hvad de skylder andre parlamentsmedlemmers initiativer og ikke pynter sig med lånte fjer.
In addition, money must be used to reduce regional imbalances and to establish high levels of cooperation with Third World countries and socialist countries.
Min sidste bemærkning vedrører »initiativbetænkningerne«, som hr. Vandemeulebroucke lige har talt om igen.
Let me make one thing quite clear, Mr President.
For det første skal den af os netop ændrede artikel 121 også medtages i betænkningen.
The Spanish European Democrats do not share Mr Bueno Vicente's socialist criteria.
Det er alt så en betænkning om ændring af artikel 37, 63 og 121.
The proposal for a regulation offers certain guarantees.