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MATUTES, medlem af Kommissionen. — (ES) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, indledningsvis takker jeg hr. Desama for hans venlige bemærkninger om mig og for hans gode ønsker for løsningen af den opgave, jeg skal varetage i de kommende år; jeg er sikker på, at jeg i den forbindelse kan regne med Parlamentets og ganske særligt med hr. Desamas uvurderlige samarbejde.
Commissioner, this is the road that we have to go down right now, not tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, not at some vague time in the future if we want a genuine development of energy policy in which coal has a place, including coal from the old Italian Sulcis mines in Sardinia. In this way we shall rid a good number of Europeans of the fear of losing their jobs and resolve a serious environmental and energy problem.
Med disse perspektiver for øje er det da rimeligt af hensyn til forsyningssikkerheden at tildele fællesskabskul en præmie, der undertiden andrager mellem 100 og 150 ECU pr. tee?
GARCIA ARIAS (S). — (£5) Mr President, I do not know if Mr Robles Piquer was already involved in politics when the decision was taken to turn the Asturias mines into a public company.
Men før det kan lade sig gøre, er der nogle forhold, der må overvejes nærmere.
I do not know what conclusions can be drawn about the way in which they are managed.
For det første medfører lukningen af en mine, også selv om en sådan lukning — paradoksalt nok — har foreløbig definitiv karakter, ikke nødvendigvis, at kulreserverne i sådanne miner går tabt.
What I do know is that this decision was an attempt to address the enormous problem represented by the fact that, in the region in question, 200 000 people are directly dependent on employment in the coal sector.
For det andet må man ud fra et langsigtet forsyningssikkerhedsperspektiv, og det er, som hr. Desama sagde, den synsvinkel, man skal anlægge, spørge, om det ikke ville være bedre at bevare nogle kulreserver til de kommende generationer og til gengæld nu forbruge kul importeret til klart lavere priser.
GONZÁLEZ ALVAREZ (NI). — (£5) Mr President, Commissioner, ladies and gentlemen, for the second time this week I shall refer to my own region: the coal sector and related industries account for 53% of employment in Asturias, a region where 10 000 jobs were lost during the 1980s, in a climate of uncertainty in which miners' jobs were among those at risk.
Klart nok kan disse spørgsmål afhængigt af, hvilke briller man ser dem igennem, besvares positivt eller negativt, og ingen af svarene er formodentlig den endelige sandhed; der må tages stilling til en kombination afalle apekteme: sikkerhed, reserver, udnyttelse af de fordelagtige nuværende priser i form af import, osv.
The causes are well known: governments have openly backed the increased use of nuclear power; they have given in to pressure from the electricity generating companies to allow a switch from coal to gas; and they have allowed the massive importation of cheap coal from third countries. We all know how coal is mined in those countries, and at whose expense.
Kommissionen, der er'fuldstændig klar over den vanskelige økonomiske situation for denne sektor, har, som det
As the Commissioner is aware, the decision will be taken by the Twelve, but it will principally affect the energy policies of two Member States.
For det andet skal jeg klart og utvetydig tilkendegive, at kul indtageren fremtrædende plads blandt de prioriterede sektorer, jeg har opstillet for Kommissionens nye man datperiode.
I would therefore like to ask the Commissioner if he is aware that the Community legal framework has so far prevented balanced action in the energy sector, in which the costs of coal are known, because they are transparent, but the costs of other forms of energy — which compete with coal and which are fundamental to the issue of the profitability of the coal industry — are not known, because they are not transparent?
Jeg har derfor med stor interesse læst den rapport om situationen for Fællesskabets kulsektor, som Parlamentets Generaldirektorat for Forskning har fået udarbejdet.
Some governments have deliberately abandoned coal mining areas — thereby weakening miners' unions, which tend to be the most militant and cohesive group ings in those regions.
I den forbindelse vil jeg fremsætte følgende kommentarer: Kommissionen deler hr. Desamas synspunkt, at det er nødvendigt.
The lack of planning and excessive bureaucracy of some public companies are faults which must be corrected, and productivity and marketing must be improved.
Fællesskabet fastlægger en global og sammenhængende energipolitik.
These shortcomings, however, must not be allowed to become a pretext for privatization.
(Bifald) vil være medlemmerne bekendt, foreslået Rådet, at der indtil udløbet af EKSF-Traktaten i år 2002 iværksættes en ny ordning for national støtte til kulsektoren.
The study to which we are referring demonstrates the difficulty of comparing coal prices across the Community.
Uden et sådant initiativ, der var uomgængelig nødvendigt, ville enhver form for støtte været blevet ulovlig efter den 1. januar 1994 i henhold til EKSF-Traktatens artikel 4.
And if it is difficult to compare those prices, how is possible to establish an average Community price?
Hovedformålet med den foreslåede ordning er at fremme konvergensen mellem de mindst konkurrencedygtige produktionsomkostninger og de mest konkurrencedygtige. ge.
Would it not be better, in the interests of ensuring security of supply, to negotiate with each Member State a refer ence price, or a percentage of protected energy supply, which genuinely corresponded to the energy needs of the Member State concerned?
ROBLES PIQUER (PPE). — (ES) Da problemet vedrørende lukning af britiske kulminer behandledes her i salen, var der nogle af os, der mente, at det var en oplagt lejlighed til, at Energiudvalget foretog en mere generel analyse af problemet, og udvalget har med stor interesse deltaget i udformningen af del spørgsmål og forslag til beslutning, som hr. Desama har indgivet.
And my final, and very important, question to the Commissioner is as follows: is the Commission con scious of the fact that, at a time of recession and high unemployment in the Community, this decision will increase unemployment?
Efter min mening er det vitale spørgsmål for de regioner, der er hårdest ramt af kulindustriens tilbagegang, at omstillingsprocesserne ledsages af foranstaltninger til fremme af industriel diversificering.
How does the Community intend to assist economic diversification in the coal mining areas?
Som hr. Matutes sagde i dette hans første indlæg i Parlamentet om energiområdet, er det hævet over enhver tvivl, at fremtiden for europæisk kul må sikres.
READ (S). — Mr President, Commissioner, can I echo Mr Desama's welcome to you but only a qualified welcome to your report.
Imidlertid er det lige så vigtigt, at dets nutid sikres. Efter PPE-Gruppens og min egen mening skal de lande, der indtil nu har kunnet fastholde deres kulproduktion, ikke give afkald herpå. For del første fordi det, som andre talere har sagt, drejer sig om en EF-energikilde.
I think there is a need for clear thinking, a comprehensive gathering of evidence and a consideration of all factors — economic, political, environmental and social — involved in Europe's energy policies.
Og for det tredje fordi kul ikke blot er er en vare. men også en kilde til arbejde for europæiske borgere.
That is the hidden cost of the UK Government's proposal to close 31 pits, which will lead to a dramatic increase in open-cast or strip mining, particularly in my area of the United Kingdom, Warwickshire, where almost the whole of one constituency will be scarred and devastated by strip mining if the Coal Board have their way.
Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer jeg er overbevist om, at EF-kul har en fremtid.
WEST (S). — Mr President, can I say that many of the Commissioner's comments and assumptions here today can be challenged and I trust he will give us an early opportunity to do so in the Committee on Energy meeting when we have equal speaking time.
Der skal også i fremtiden gøres en stor indsats med henblik på at skabe konkurrencedygtighed, men på denne måde vil den fælles kulindustri kunne bidrage til at opretholde beskæftigelsesniveauet og til Fællesskabets forsyningssikkerhed på lang sigt.
It seems incongruous that in this constituency, where Coventry pit has closed with the loss of over 1 000 jobs and where Daw Mill is still open but over half the miners have already had to go, the people of this area, who were already asked to bear the burden of strip mining 30 years ago, are now being steamrollered by the Coal Board, but not without some resistance, to go down this path again.
Dette hindrer naturligvis ikke, at vi skal være yderst varsomme med uforholdsmæssigt store omkostninger, der ved at fordyre den primære energi kan gøre det vanskeligt for industrien og for andre dele af erhvervslivet i Europa at klare konkurrencen.
Mr President, today's British media reports indicate that the British Government is set to reject the main recommendations of the Tory-dominated House of Commons Select Committee report.
Efter min mening skyldes problemerne ofte dårlig administration, og i Spanien har vi med HUNOSA desværre et notorisk eksempel på dårlig administration, der resulterer i lav produktivitet.
In doing so, it also rejects the clear call of this House in a resolution carried by a large majority in the November plenary session that the UK Government's plan to close 31 coalmines in the UK should be abandoned.
Hvis de problemer afhjælpes — og det kan og skal de — må vi håbe, at Kommissionen viser os vejen til at sikre den europæiske kulindustris beståen.
The UK Government has also chosen to treat with contempt the expressed outrage of all sections of society in the UK, when people took to the streets in their thousands, including many Tory MPs and Tory supporters.
Jeg ved. at det at være i Strasbourg på en torsdag ikke var med i hans oprindelige plan, og vi er ham meget taknemmelige, fordi han er kommet. Men jeg må sige, at jeg er lidt skuffet over det, han har sagt her til eftermiddag, for han har talt om en langt mere langsigtet række problemer end dem. den britiske kulindustri i øjeblikket står overfor.
I think your report, Commissioner, represents the necessary but not sufficient condition to give proper consideration to the future of energy policy in the European Community and I think both your statement and other evidence are a a clear justification of the National Union of Mineworkers' case in the United Kingdom.
Det er faktisk forholdene i den britiske kulindustri, der er baggrunden for denne debat: truslen om, at det billigste kul fra dybe miner i Fællesskabet måske er inde i sin sidste fase, mens andet kul fra Fællesskabet fortsætter.
I trust the British Tories here with us this afternoon — and it looks as though it is all left to you, Mr Seligman, because none of the others seem to be interested — will clearly state that the proposals to save only 12 pits are quite unacceptable.
Den er langt mere opmærksom på det end folk fra selve kulindustrien.
That is one of the reasons for my concern, and one of the causes of this problem.
Det er på grund af denne mulighed for at bruge kul, ikke blot på en mere økonomisk, men også på en mere miljøvenlig måde, at vi gerne vil sætte gang i Kommissionen på en måde, der vil hjælpe på den aktuelle situation i Det Forenede Kongerige.
MATUTES, Member of the Commission. — (ES) Mr President, a number of Members have asked me questions, and I should like to know if I have time to answer them and comment on the various issues raised, or whether we are moving on to the next item on the agenda.
Kullet bør i stedet efter min og min gruppes opfattelse blive til et virkeligt råstof, der anvendes så effektivt som muligt fra et termisk og kemisk synspunkt.
The independent report that we are endorsing today has much to commend it, as other speakers have said.
Hr. kommissær, SAVE- og THERMIE-programmerne er kun et plaster på såret.
I refer to one or two points.
De kan ikke uden videre nævne disse latterlige initiativer for at holde os hen.
Mothballing: the concept of mothballing has been completely rejected as an unworkable option.
Man bør i stedet relancere den avancerede fremstilling afgas på grundlag af kul efter udvindingen, dvs. ikke i minerne med produktionen af syngas, som kan føres ud i nettet, idet man i den industrielle fase udnytter biprodukterne.
On the question of dumping referred to by my colleague, the report indicates that the Commission is possibly in a position where it can be legally challenged for its non-action; I trust we will investigate that.
Fordet første må vi have en tilbundsgående undersøgelse af anklagerne for dumping af kul på det europæiske marked.
The report rejects the gas option as it will deplete gas reserves in some 25 years, bringing about an over-dependency upon imported gas.
Det har stået på i to år. Vi siger ikke, at det er bevist, men vi vil have en undersøgelse for at få sagen opklaret.
My colleague has referred to the cost reductions in the UK over the next few years: cost reductions of between 25 and 30%, without the need to alter working practices.
For det andet må vi se på de konkurrencemæssige aspekter af det, der sker inden for elektricitetssektoren.
MATUTES, Member of the Commission. — (ES) I shall try to make my remarks in the form of a statement, Mr President, although a number of issues have been raised which call for reflection and well thought-out arguments.
Vi vil alle gerne have langt større gennemskuelighed på pri.somradet. Det er vi enige med Kommissionen om.
So all this and more is in this report and in endorsing it I trust this Parliament will ensure that the Commission takes the necessary action to bring about what we are seeking, i.e. an overall energy policy which takes account
Dette, hr. kommissær, erden vej, man straks bør gå, ikke i morgen, ikke i overmorgen, ikke på langt sigt. hvis vi ønsker en virkelig energimæssig omstilling, hvor kullet spiller en rolle, også kullet i de gamle italienske miner i Sulcis, på Sardinien.
This debate has made it clear, however, that the problem facing us not only has an economic dimension, but also a regional and an environmental one, as well as enormous social implications for certain areas.
BETTINI af europæerne fra at miste deres arbejdspladser, og vi kan løse et stort miljø- og energiproblem.
MATUTES the same type of coal at the same price and in much greater quantities, and their undertakings have not filed a complaint in this respect.
Men jeg ved til gengæld, at allerede dengang blev der taget hensyn til det vældige regionale problem, som udgøres af de 200.000 mennesker, hvis indkomst stammer fra arbejdspladser i denne industri.
more complicated still, the solutions proposed — as has been clearly demonstrated in this debate — are not only often incompatible, but sometimes also mutually exclusive. sive.
GONZALEZ ALVAREZ (NI). — (ES) Hr. formand, hr. kommissær, mine damer og herrer, for anden gang i løbet af denne uge ser jeg mig nødsaget til at henvise til den region, jeg selv kommer fra.
I myself have met with the British Trade and Industry Secretary, Mr Heseltine, and talks are currently under way between Commission officials and officials of the British Government on this subject.
I Asturias er situationen nemlig den, at kulsektoren skaber 53% af lønmassen, og at der i 80érne nedlagdes 10.000 arbejdspladser i et klima præget af usikkerhed, der i sig selv var yderst farligt for minearbejdernes sikkerhed.
We are following this matter — which will, of course, be affected by the final, unanimous decision taken by the Council on the proposal submitted by the Commission — with the greatest interest.
Den europæiske kulindustri har mistet ca. 100.000 arbejdspladser i løbet af de seneste fire år.
McCUBBIN (S). — Mr President, I have a comment to Commissioner Matutes.
Grundene hertil er velkendte: man har satset uhæmmet på at øge produktionen af kerneenergi, givet efter forel-industriens ønske om at stille om fra kul til gas, og man har opmuntret til massiv import af billigt kul fra tredjelande.
He gave a very full answer except in the area of dumping, where our concern is the use of forced labour in contravention of Convention 29 of the ILO and Convention 105 of the ILO.
Vi ved alle, hvordan kul udvides i de lande og på hvis bekostning.
We would invoke these particularly as regards the People's Republic of China.
I den nuværende situation vil jeg gerne stille et spørgsmål til kommissæren — som jeg lykønsker med hans nye portefølje — vedrørende den beslutning, der skal erstatte beslutning nr. 2064.
Furthermore, as Mr Adam, Mr Robles Piquer and other speakers rightly said, besides the longerterm issues, we are faced with a matter of urgency: the need to address the immediate situation, to secure the present Community coal industry.
Efter min mening ville det være bedre, at beslutning nr. 2064 forlængedes yderligere to år, og at der skabtes mulighed for en virkelig debat og forhandlinger mellem de to medlemsstater, der især vil blive berørt af denne beslutning.
And it is precisely with a view to securing the present industry that the Commission has put forward proposals for, amongst other things, a new system of aid to the coal sector — since all aid is due to become illegal on 1 January next year.
Jeg spørger derfor kommissæren, om han er klar over, at de juridiske fællesskabsrammer hidtil har hindret en afbalanceret indsats i energisektoren, for så vidt som produktionsomkostningerne for kul er velkendte — da de er gennemsigtige — medens der ikke hersker samme gennemsigtighed i forbindelse med de øvrige energiformer, der konkurrerer med kulsektoren.
It will cover aid for improving productivity and mining efficiency — clearly, if we want Community industry as a whole to be competitive, coal production must be cost-effective.
Nogle regeringer har forsætligt ladet mineområderne i stikken og derved svækket minearbejdernes fagforeninger, der er det mest kampberedte og solidariske element i disse regioner.
It will also cover aid for reducing the impact on the environment. And in this context, I would remind Mr Bettini that the Commission is pioneering the use of coal gasification technology.
Den manglende planlægning og det bureaukrati, der hersker i nogle offentlige virksomheder, må udbedres, og produktionen og handelssektoren må styrkes. Men disse mangler kan ikke tjene som påskud for privatisering.
I would like to give him more details of the THERMIE programme, but in the light of the President's request, I shall not do so now.
Den nye fællesskabskodeks for offentlig støtte bør ikke fastsætte en referencepris pr. ton kul, den bør begrænse sig til at omsætte EKSF-beslutning 2 064 i praksis under hensyntagen til strategiske overvejelser af social, energimæssig og territorial karakter og ikke kun tage umiddelbare økonomiske rentabilitetshensyn.
ALVAREZ DE PAZ (S). — (ES) Mr President, I am not sure if there is a fault in the loudspeaker system, or if I cannot hear properly because, like other Members, I take so many flights, but I think I just heard the Commissioner say that the Commission takes the decision to close pits, but that the subsequent measures have to be taken by someone else.
Jeg opfordrer Dem til, hr. kommissær, at fastsætte en dato for forelæggelsen af direktivet om gennemsigtighed i omkostninger, et løfte, som Kommissionen ikke har holdt, og som var led i enhedsmarkedspakken.
Despite the measures to tackle the social, regional, environmental and efficiency aspects of the problem, however, there is no doubt that some mines will have to close.
Den undersøgelse, der er grundlaget for denne debat, viser, hvor vanskeligt det er at sammenligne omkostningerne i de enkelte medlemslande.
And here too, the means available to the Commission will not be enough to solve the problems; they will only help to alleviate them.
Og når det er så vanskeligt at sammenligne disse omkostninger, hvordan kan man så fastlægge et EF-gennemsnit?
I am referring to initiatives under the European Social Fund designed to stimulate growth and promote small and mediumsized undertakings.
Ville det ikke være bedre af hensyn til forsyningssikkerheden at forhandle en referencepris med de enkelte lande eller en procentdel beskyttet energiproduktion, der reelt opfylder landenes energibehov? hov?
It is not, in any case, the Community's responsibility to create diversified employment in coalmining areas, since if that were the case, it would be obliged to take similar measures in respect of every other industry hit by crisis, with the result that the Community would increasingly come to resemble the former Soviet bloc, whose ultimate fate is well known to us all.
Mit sidste spørgsmål til kommissæren lyder: Er Kommissionen klar over, at denne beslutning på et tidspunkt præget af recession og arbejdsløshed vil øge arbejdsløsheden?
MATUTES, Member of the Commission. — (£5) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, we have no evidence of social dumping, and all the information that we have at our disposal indicates that social dumping — in the sense of a particular industry treating its workers in a discriminatory manner in relation to other industries in the same country — is not taking place.
Hvordan agter Fællesskabet at bidrage til diversificering i de berørte mineområder?
Obviously, a worker in China or Colombia does not receive the same wages as a worker in the European Community, but on the basis of the information that we currently have at our disposal, it is not possible to talk of social dumping in those countries. tries.
De varslede produktivitetsforbedringer og de forventede prisstigninger på verdensmarkedet kan sikre den europæiske produktions levedygtighed fremover.
On the second point, I would say that the economy must be diversified in areas that are heavily dependent on a coalmining industry which — unfortunately but inevitably — will be the subject of future restructuring measures.
Den britiske regering har afstået fra at lukke kulminer, og den tyske regering har lige undertegnet en aftale med fagforeningerne om at fastholde produktionen inden for rammerne af HORIZON-2005-programmet.
I pointed out that the Community had instruments available to it — the Structural Funds, and in particular the European Social Fund — to fund initiatives designed, amongst other things, to stimulate economic growth within the Community.
Af den spanske regering og Kommissionen kræver vi en vedvarende indsats og konkrete beviser på politisk vilje til at fastlægge en global og sammenhængende energipolitik, baseret på energiforsyningssikkerhed på lang sigt og beskyttelse af miljøet.
Nevertheless, it is not the Community's responsibility to create new jobs, but rather to provide support with the help of the instruments at its disposal.
WEST (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, må jeg sige, at mange af Kommissionens kommentarer og antagelser her i dag er tvivlsomme, og jeg stoler på, at han snart vil give os mulighed for at sætte spørgsmålstegn ved dem i et møde i Energiudvalget, hvor vi har samme taletid.
In any event, I am not in a position to set aside the proposal submitted to the Council by the previous Commission.
FORMANDEN. — Som afslutning på forhandlingen har jeg modtaget et beslutningsforslag fra Energi, Forsknings- og Teknologiudvalget (dok.
All such aid must be clearly indicated in the budgets of the bodies providing the assistance, as well as in the accounts of the mining companies, so as to make the aid fully transparent and prevent any further distortion of competition.
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I believe, moreover, that this is the only way in which the Community can continue to tackle this problem, which in some areas is becoming critical.
Afstemning om anmodningen om afstemning snarest muligt finder sted ved forhandlingens afslutning.
Those were the terms that I used, and that was what I meant when I referred to initiatives designed to promote industrial diversification in areas dependent on a single industry.