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Inden for disse rammer foreslår Landbrugs udvalget, at systemet uniformeres ved nu kun at tillade B-ordningen, hvorved mejerierne kan foretage en aktiv kontingentforvaltning.
I could well imagine a second levy linked to the revenue from Community dairy exports to the world market being imposed to a limited extent within the present quotas.
Et problem, som splitter landmændene stærkt, er spørgsmålet, om der kan handles med kvotaen eller ej.
To my mind, this second levy should be paid primarily by the Community's larger farms, while the smaller farms might be exempted.
Hvis kvotasystemet bliver næsten permanent, og det ser det ud til, så er der ingen mening i at undgå,
An instrument of this kind, a second levy, would make the dairy policy cheaper and bring it more into line with GATT.
Vi har en situation, hvor de store landbrugere køber de små ud af erhvervet.
We have a situation where big farms are buying small farms out of business.
Vi bekymrer os for økonomien i landdistrikterne.
We are concerned about rural economies.
Vi ønsker levedygtige økonomier, levedygtige landdistrikter med familiebrug, ikke kæmpemæssige landbrug, hvor der ikke er nogen følelse af et egentligt samfund.
We want vibrant economies, a vibrant countryside with family farms, not huge farms without a sense of community.
Vi må finde udveje, så det kan blive muligt for de mindre landbrugere at dyrke landbrug som fuldtidsbeskæftigelse, og vi må også hjælpe de unge, der gerne vil ind i erhvervet.
We must find ways of making full time farming possible for smaller farmers, and we must also give help to young entrants to farming.
Der er mange børn fra mindre landbrug, som gerne vil starte deres eget landbrug, men de har
Many children from smaller farms want to start their own farm, but they cannot afford to buy quotas at the prices obtaining in some areas of the European Community.
Wilson ikke råd til at opkøbe kvoter til de priser, der er gældende i visse dele af Det Europæiske Fælles skab.
I hope the Commission will waste no time in complying with the rapporteur's and the Agriculture Committee's request to study this instrument.
mig, at der inden for de nuværende kvoter for en begrænset dels vedkommende — vi kunne kalde det B-kvotaen — pålægges en anden afgift, som har forbindelse med indtægterne fra EF-mejerieksporten på verdensmarkedet.
A system like this might also make trade in quotas socially acceptable.
For mit vedkommende burde først og fremmest Fællesskabets større virksomheder betale denne anden afgift, og de mindre virksomheder skulle kunne fritages derfor.
When large farms buy up quotas, they might be required to pay this second Β levy on the quotas they have bought.
Et sådant instrument, et dobbelt afgiftssystem, ville gøre mejeripolitikken billigere og mere i overensstemmelse med GATT.
This would automatically lead to a sharp drop in quota prices. In my opinion, a system with so many advantages is well worth considering.
Vi må gøre bedre brug af vore inspektionsressourcer, så vi kan få stoppet aktiviteterne på de grå og sorte markeder inden for mælk og mejeri.
We need better use of our inspection resources to stop the grey and black market in milk and dairy.
Vi må standse de mejerier, som oplagrer Fællesskabets smør, mens de samtidig promoverer deres egen margarine og margarineprodukter.
We have to stop dairies storing Community butter while promoting their own margarines and spreads.
Disse har ofte et højere fedtindhold end smør.
These margarines and spreads often have a greater fat content than butter.
Vi har stillet et ændringsforslag for at få fastsat en afgift på det overintensive landbrug, den type landbrug, man for eksempel igen finder i Holland og også i Bretagne i Frankrig.
We have tabled an amendment to fix a levy on overintensive farming, the sort of farming found for example again in Holland as well as Brittany in France.
Vi må ekstensivere, og der er måder, hvorpå dette kan lade sig gøre.
We must extensify and there are ways to do this.
Vi må inden for rammerne af vor mejeripolitik søge at fremme nye mælkebaserede produkter.
Within our dairy policy we must look to the promotion of new products from milk.
Disse nye produkter skal bearbejdes i de egne, hvor mælken produceres, og ikke der, hvor forbruget ligger.
These new products must be processed in the areas of production and not in the regions of consumption.
Jeg håber, at Kommissionen hurtigt vil føre denne anmodning fra ordførerens og Landbrugsudvalgets side om at undersøge dette nye instrument ud i livet.
MAHER (LDR). — Mr President, I too wish to compliment the rapporteur, I do not think there is anyone in Parliament who is better qualified to produce a report like this than Mr Marck.
Et sådant system ville sandsynligvis også kunne gøre handel med kvoter mere acceptabel i samfundet.
I agree with him and others who have said that we have no option but to continue with this system, even after we have reached
Vi vil gerne over for hr. Marck udtrykke vor glæde over hans afbalancerede og grundige analyse.
I am sure these improvements can be achieved and they would be welcomed by the European Community at
Det ville skabe alt for store afbræk, indtil vi fandt frem til et bedre system.
There would be far too much disruption until we had found a better system.
Der er naturligvis tale om et vist fald i forbruget.
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Men i mælkesektoren er det klart, at det i hvert tilfælde i visse lande er sådan, at reglerne ikke bliver overholdt, og jeg vil gerne bede kommissæren og Kommissionen om at se kritisk på dette, for efter min mening så vi på mælkekvotaordningen og merafgiftssystemet som en mulig retningslinje for, hvad vi skal gøre i andre sektorer, og jeg føler, at dette måske er den vej, vi skal gå med hensyn til styring af udbuddet, snarere end det, kommissæren foreslår.
There would not need to be any compensatory payments, and the livelihood of most of the dairy farms in the areas Mr Maher referred to just now, where they are needed for the structuring of rural areas, would be guaranteed.
Vi har et kunstigt system, som tilfører retten til at producere mælk en kunstig værdi. Fordi vi ikke erkendte, at de mindre producenter skulle have haft tildelt en større andel af det, der nu er at
The discussion of it was a very lengthy business, but I think that the time has really been well spent, because it has allowed us to have available a full comparative analysis of the system of quota application in Member States from 1984 onwards.
Kommissionen har her det største ansvar.
have a quota system in milk as such.
Det er vigtigt, at det også ved hjælp af den nationale produktion kan konstateres, at de nationale kvoter ikke overskrides, eller at der for en sådan overskridelse betales en superafgift.
What we have are penalties for over-production, and it has become obvious in recent times, particularly since we have again begun to build up stocks, that the system is not functioning as well as it should do.
Disse nationale kvoter bør også fortsat bibeholdes i de kommende år.
Of course, there is some decline in consumption.
Produktionsspredningen over alle medlemsstater kan derved stabiliseres.
I admit that, and it is a drawback, but it is also true that there is a lot of looseness in the system.
Differentierede kvotaformindskelser eller handel med kvoter hen over grænserne ville ødelægge denne balance.
Perhaps where the quotas work best is where there is a physical quota, as in sugar beet.
Jeg kan dog forestille
There is not really a problem there.
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What has taken place is also a scandal.
Mäher måde, hvorpå de blev gennemført.
Mr Wilson referred to this, and I think he is right.
fordele, så falder folk fra, og mere og mere mælk bliver koncentreret på færre og færre hænder.
Because we failed to recognize that the smaller producers should have received a fairer share of what there is to distribute people are dropping out and more and more of the milk is being concentrated into fewer and fewer hands.
Det er ved at blive helt alvorligt.
That is becoming quite serious.
I forbindelse med en reduktion af kvoterne vil jeg også gerne sige til hr. MacSharry, at dette får højst forskellige konsekvenser for de forskellige lande.
Also, in relation to a reduction in quota, I would say to Mr MacSharry that this bears very unevenly on some countries.
I Irland for eksempel, hvor vi er meget afhængige af mælkeproduktionen med en mængde små landbrug, har vi simpelt hen ikke råd til nogen reduktion af mælkekvoterne. Vi har ingen andre steder at vende os hen — medmindre vi helt vender os bort fra jorden.
In Ireland, for instance, where we are heavily dependent on milk production with a lot of small farms, we just cannot afford any reduction in milk quotas.
Graefe zu Baringdorf (V). — (DE) Hr. formand, produktionen af mælk er en oprindelig beskæftigelse for landmanden og af stor betydning for landbrugenes eksistens.
GRAEFE ZU BARINGDORF (V). — (DE) Mr President, the dairy industry is a natural part of farming and very important for the farmer's livelihood.
Det er ganske vist nødvendigt, at der finder en sikring af mælkeproduktionen sted via kvotebestemmelserne, men som den var og er indrettet, har den ikke bragt en sikring af de små mælkeproducerende brug, for siden den blev indført, har mere end en million landbrug givet op, og de små mælkeproducerende brug kan kun vanskeligt eksistere i dag af udbyttet af mælkeproduktionen.
Necessary though it is for milk production to be safeguarded by means of the quota arrangement, the way this arrangement has been set up means that it has not protected small dairy farms : over a million farms have been given up since it was introduced, and small dairy farms find it difficult to make a living out of milk today.
Det drejer sig derfor om at støtte disse små mælkeproducerende landbrug.
These small dairy farms therefore need to be supported.
Nu da vi råder over disse data, er vi i stand til at bekræfte, at kvoteordningen har haft den positive virkning at begrænse produktionsstigningen og at tilpasse udbuddet på markedet til den stagnationstendens, der må konstateres for forbruget og efter spørgselen. Den har imidlertid ikke været effektiv nok.
Today, with this data available, we can state the quota system has had the positive effect of restricting the increase in production and adjusting market supply to the present trend in consumption and demand, which is towards stagnation.
Det er et system, i hvilket man har kunnet konstatere meget alvorlige begrænsninger, og hvor der derfor kræves yderligere afgjorte forbedringer med henblik på fremtiden.
It is a system that has shown very serious limitations, and that must therefore be decisively improved for the future.
Sådan opfatter jeg det budskab, som dette stykke arbejde bringer os, og dette har fundet tilslutning fra mange af de politiske grupper, der er repræsenteret her i Parlamentet.
I think this is the message that comes to us from this work, on which many political groups represented in this Parliament are agreed.
Alle staterne er enige om behovet for en videreførelse af denne ordning, men under forudsætning af en meget større smidighed.
All Member States agree on the need for the continuation of this regime, but all are also agreed on the need for much greater flexibility.
Dette vil sige færre burokratiske komplikationer for at have en større overskuelighed, tilskyndelse til større omflytning af kvoter, større reservekvoter til unge landmænd og små brug til garanterede priser, mulighed for at tillade driftsomlægning for bedrifter, der vil være mere konkurrencedygtige på verdensmarkederne, der stadig bliver mere vanskeligt tilgængelige for Fællesskabets produkter.
That means less bureaucratic complication so as to have greater transparency, the incentive to greater mobility for the quotas, a bigger reserve at guaranteed prices for young producers and small undertakings, the ability to make restructuring possible for farms that want to be more competitive on world markets which, where Community produce is concerned, are increasingly tight.
Og faktisk har systemet indtil nu haft for negative virkninger for dem, der har villet investere i deres bedrifter for at tilpasse sig markedets behov, medens det først og fremmest har været til gavn for de industrielle bearbejdningsvirksomheder, for næringsmiddelindustrien, der har udnyttet kvoteordningen til at nedbringe producenternes indtægter.
And in fact, up till now, the system has overpenalised those who have invested in their farms in obedience to market forces, especially in favour of the processing industry, the food industry, which has exploited the quota system and cut the incomes of the producers.
Hr. MacSharry, Deres analyse gående ud på, at 25% af landbrugene producerer 75% af mælken, eller omvendt at 75% af landbrugene kun producerer 25% af mælken, må da nødvendigvis føre til, at vi gennem et gradueret prissystem støtter denne del af landbrugene og reducerer mængderne der, hvor de produceres.
Mr MacSharry, your statement that 25% of farms produce 75% of the milk or, to put it the other way round, that 75% of dairy farms produce only 25% of the milk must surely result in our supporting the bulk of farms with a graded price system and reducing quantities where they are produced.
Dvs. at der uden store administrative vanskeligheder inden for mælkesektoren kunne fast sættes en højere betaling for grundmængden, f.eks. for de første 50 000 1 eller 100 000 1 en DM, eller hvad det nu skal være.
Without any major administrative difficulties in the dairy sector a higher payment for the basic quantity could, in other words, be made, one mark for the first 50 000 or 100 000 litres, for example, or something like that.
De 15 mio. t mælk, som stadig produceres som overskud, kunne så spares ind hos de store producenter, som man kunne holde skadesløse ved hjælp af udligningen.
The surplus of 15 million tonnes of milk still being produced could then be eliminated on the large farms, which would receive financial compensation.
Så havde vi styr på mælken, og prisen ville blive reguleret via markedet.
We would then have milk under control, and the price would be determined in the
Det er derfor efter min mening nødvendigt at opmuntre producenterne til selvdisciplin over for markedet. Det er noget, jeg vil tillægge stor betydning, at producenterne viser borgersind og påtager sig deres ansvar over for markedstendenserne.
It is in my view necessary, therefore, to encourage self-discipline on the part of the producers, in regard to the market: this seems to me to be a very important act of culture, the assumption of responsibility by producers vis-à-vis the market trend.
Fantuzzi efter 1992, idet dette problem skaber megen utilfredshed blandt producenterne og kræver stor opmærksomhed og megen ansvarlighed fra vor side.
Lastly, I consider it very important to involve Parliament in the revision of the system after 1992, since this is a problem that causes great uneasiness among the producers, and demands great care and a great sense of responsibility on our part.
Martinez (DR). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne — én gang er ingen gang — takke hr. Marck for en yderst klar betænkning om et emne, der præges af inkonsekvens.
MARTINEZ (DR). — (FR) Mr President, I should like — for once in a while — to congratulate Mr Marck on an extremely clear report on a subject dominated by incoherence and unmanageability.
Som bekendt havde vi — som hr. Marck sagde — i 1984 for meget mælk, og da vor landbrugsminister var socialisten Rocard, ind førtes der på fransk foranledning mælkekvotering, fordi lagerbeholdningerne var for store og derfor skulle begrænses. Hr. Guillaume redegjorde for lidt siden for tanken bag dette system.
It is common knowledge, as Mr Marck has reminded us, that in 1984 there was too much milk and, on a French initiative, our Minister for Agriculture at the time being Mr Rocard, a Socialist, milk quotas were invented, because stocks were too high and had to be kept in check.
Guillaume (RDE). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil komplimentere hr. Marck for den vanskelige opgave, han har udført om et emne, der har sat lidenskaberne i sving.
GUILLAUME (RDE). — (FR) Mr President, I want to congratulate Mr Marck on the job he has made of a difficult task on a subject on which feelings run high.
Med hans tilladelse vil jeg dog gerne rette lidt kritik mod hans tøvende holdning til kvotaforvaltningsforslagene, der det ene øjeblik er for liberale og det næste ikke liberale nok.
However, he will allow me a small criticism of his approach, since some of his proposals on quota management are too liberal while others are not liberal enough.
Forslagene er for liberale, når han foreslår at legalisere kvotasalg og -bortforpagtning, som vil straffe unge og små landmænd, idet kun de store i realiteten har finansiel mulighed for at købe eller leje disponible kvoter.
The proposal to legalize the sale or leasing of quotas is too liberal, since it would penalize young and small farmers, given that in pratice only large farmers would be able to afford to buy or lease available quotas.
Hans holdning er ikke liberal nok, når han vil opretholde et usmidigt planøkonomisk system til styring af mælkeproduktionen, et system, der giver staten myndighed til at fordele produktionsretten.
He is not being liberal enough when he calls for the maintenance of a rigid, centrally administered system for the management of milk production, which would give the state authority to distribute production rights.
Og med et slag skaffede man i Frankrig henved 130 000 producenter af vejen.
The immediate effect in France was that almost 130 000 producers were put out of business.
Men blev mælkemængden mindre af den grund?
Did the quantity of milk diminish as a result ?
Ja, i Europa, idet leverancerne faldt med 7%, dvs. omkring hundrede millioner tons.
Yes, in Europe, since sales fell by 7%, or about one hundred million tonnes.
Men ikke i verden. For samtidig overtog De Forenede Stater de markedsandele, som vi mistede.
But not in the world, because during this period the United States was picking up the market share that we were losing.
I grunden virker systemet, som om man havde opfundet ordningen for at miste markedsandele.
One really does get the impression that this system was devised for the purpose of losing market share.
For at være sikker på at miste endnu flere vil man yderligere nedskære kvoterne med 2%, så der er fuld sikkerhed for at få kvalt småproducenterne.
And to make quite sure of losing more and squeezing out small producers in the process, the quotas are going to be cut by a further 2%.
Samtidig udvikler man mælkeerstatningsprodukter på basis af soja, der selvfølgelig importeres fra De Forenede Stater og er fritaget for medansvarsafgift — så man må glæde sig over, at somatotropinet ikke fik lov til at slå igennem!
Meanwhile, we are going to see the development of production of milk substitutes made from soya, imported from the United States of course and exempt from the coresponsibility levy — and it is just as well that somatotropin has not taken root!
Ved samme lejlighed indførtes der handel med kvoter, som er blevet intet mindre end værdipapirer.
This system has also spawned a quota market, a trade in quotas, which have become as good as negotiable tender.
Jeg tror, at det er et af de grundlæggende punkter.
I regard this as one of the key issues.
Hr. Marck beskriver det glimrende på side 16 og 17 i betænkningen.
Mr Marck gives a very good description of what is going on in his report, on pages 16 and 17.
I Belgien f.eks. op til 20 000 liter pr. hektar.
In Belgium, for instance, up to 20 000 litres per hectare can be traded.
I Nederlandene sælges de for 4 NLG pr. liter.
In the Netherlands, quotas can be sold at 4 guilders a litre.
For slet ikke at tale om forpagtning af kvoter og kvoters frie bevægelighed inden for EF, hvilket vil destabilisere handelen med jord som følge af arealer uden kvota.
To say nothing of the problems of the leasing of quotas and free movement of quotas within the European Community, which is going to destabilize farmland prices, because of the difference that quotas make.
De må indrømme, hr. kommissær, at det er ret paradoksalt, at EF udvikler et sådant system og komplicerer det efter behag, på selv samme tids punkt som østlandene opgiver planøkonomien.
As you will concede, Commissioner, it is really rather paradoxical for the EEC to be developing such a system and making it more and more complicated just when the countries in Central and Eastern Europe are abandon ing the command economy.
For øvrigt kritiserede hr. Marck for lidt siden den nuværende forvaltning, idet han mente, at den ansporede til bedragerier og i nogle lande ikke var underkastet effektiv kontrol.
Mr Marck has just been criticizing the present system, taking the view that it encourages fraud and that controls are not effective in some countries.
Men hvilken løsning foreslår han?
But how does he propose dealing with the problem ?
Yderligere komplikation af forvaltningen.
By complicating administration of the system still further.
Jeg har et andet forslag til afløsning af det nuværende system.
I have a different alternative to the existing machinery.
I et ændringsforslag, som jeg stiller på gruppens vegne, foreslår jeg i højere grad at tilskynde mælkeproducerende bedrifter til at respektere produktionsmængderne og til i stedet for at give staten myndighed til at fordele produktionsretten at indføre en politik, der kontraktmæssigt forpligter virksomheder og avlere til at overholde kvoteringen.
In an amendment tabled on behalf of my group, I have proposed taking much stronger action to develop dairies'awareness of the need to keep to the volumes to be produced and, instead of giving the state authority to distribute rights to produce milk, setting up a contractual policy to operate between dairies and dairy farmers, to ensure that quotas are kept to properly.
Lidt af det samme, som hr. Maher før foreslog for sukkerroekvoternes vedkommende.
This would be somewhat along the lines of the sugar beet quotas, as Mr Maher was just saying.
Det er et forslag, der forekommer mig at være meget mere smidigt at gen nemføre end den nuværende ordning.
I think this would be much more flexible in pratice than the present system.
Hr. kommissær, De og Ministerrådet lovede det, men De har endnu ikke ført det ud i livet.
Are we talking about movable or immovable assets ?
Der indførtes endvidere en fuldstændig uløselig for valtning, der medfører retslige problemer.
A second point that I should have liked to see in the text is the total and irrevocable abolition of the coresponsibility levy.
Endnu en gang, hr. Marck, takker jeg Dem. Er det fast ejendom eller løsøre?
Commissioner, you and the Council of Ministers promised this, but you have not yet delivered.
Så er der spørgsmålet om kvotesalg, A- og B-kvoter, idet hvert land har sit eget system.
On this last point, virtually all Dutch dairy farmers are producing in excess of 300 000 litres.
Der er 13 000 producenter af denne størrelsesorden mod små tusind i Belgien.
There are 13 000 of them producing more than this volume, compared to barely a thousand in Belgium.
Der er altså tale om et meget tungt system.
So this is an extremely cumbersome system.
Alle involverede parter viser sig derfor at være enige om, at systemet skal fortsættes også efter 1992.
Then there should be a levy on this ersatz milk made from soya.
Det betyder allerførst, at systemets retsgrundlag inden for det indre marked udtrykke ligt bør bekræftes af Kommissionen.
Lastly, thought should be given to the noninviolability of quotas.
Producenterne og den forarbejdende mejeriindustri har brug for et solidt grundlag, hvorpå de kan basere deres fremtidsrettede beslutninger.
At all events, it is absolutely necessary to abolish the coresponsibility levy, to increase the premiums for suckling calves, to increase the Community reserves for young farmers and mountain zones, on the need for which everyone is agreed, and to penalize intensive-production zones, which would provide a basis for coordinating a more harmonized agricultural policy by doing away with the factory dairy farms in the Netherlands.