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Siden fremsættelsen af denne erklæring i torsdags har Rådet holdt et ganske vist uformelt møde i lørdags.
Firstly, the provision of money for Rechar must not lead to further pit closures and thereby further job losses in mining.
Jeg finder det logisk, at Rådet først informerer forsamlingen. Jeg mener ikke, at forman den skal erstatte forsamlingen.
I also support the suggestion that this initiative should be open to as wide a range of coalfields as possible.
Jeg kan ikke foregribe Parlamentets stil lingtagen.
I hope also that the programme will be flexible enough to consider infrastructure problems, rail links as well as road links.
Under alle omstændigheder skal jeg, hvis det ønskes, forelægge Deres forslag på Det Udvidede Præsidium i morgen.
Secondly, from the energy policy point of view, Rechar money must under no circumstances be used in such a way that usable reserves in the coalfields that are valuable from today's point of view are abandoned for ever, thereby threatening security of energy supply in Europe from coal.
Giscard d'Estaing (LDR). — (FR) Hvornår får vi oplyst taletiderne ved forhandlingen i morgen efter middag, og under hvilken form den vil blive afholdt?
We must make sure that further extraction of coal from these deposits will be possible in the future.
Telkämper (V). — (DE) Hr. formand jeg vil gerne gøre Dem opmærksom på, at da nu også hr. Mitterrand vil få ordet, og tiden forbliver den samme, vil medlemmernes taletid blive indskrænket.
To conclude I would make one demand, namely that this programme is not linked in any way to a further programme of colliery closures and a further reduction in work forces.
Men netop i denne historiske situation på baggrund af denne revolution i Øst, hvor vi kræver demokratiske regler og demokratiske valg, er det da rimeligt, at vi ikke bare kører videre med den gamle dagsorden, men tager os tid til at få en meningsdannelsesproces hos os, at vi lader udgå et initiativ fra Vest, og at vi i dette indre marked uden demokratisk kontrol også taler om vor opfattelse af demokratiet og om vor demokratiske åbning.
If this programme is implemented with imagination and with the cooperation of local authorities at grass roots and as quickly as possible I believe it will go some way at least to solving the very fundamental problems of areas such as South Wales.
I morgen tidlig vil Det Udvidede Præsidium foretage denne fordeling på sekretariatets forslag. Vi er ikke i stand til at gøre det før.
Measures to promote investment should be tied as closely as possible to retraining for redundant mineworkers, in order to ensure that the employment situation in these areas really does improve.
Formanden. — Hr. Telkämper, jeg noterer mig, at De går ind for forhandlingen, og jeg understreger, at hr. Mitterrand taler i sin egenskab af formand for Rådet, og at et indlæg fra rådsformanden var fastsat på dagsordenen. Jeg har ikke taget tid fra nogen.
PRESIDENT. — I should like to welcome the delegation from the Centro lunigianese di Studi giuridici, Pontremoli, who have come to Strasbourg to study our work.
Ændring af Traktaterne, EF-lovgivning og institutionelle reformer (fortsættelse)
The sharp drop in coal production has inevitably had drastic effects on the number of jobs in the coalfields and on economic and social conditions there — including the area I come from, the smallest 'Land' in the Federal Republic, the Saarland.
Giscard d'Estaing (LDR). — (FR) I går talte man om en tre timer lang forhandling. Hvis talerne skal kunne forberede sig på at deltage i en forhandling af så stor betydning, er det trods alt rimeligt, at de får kendskab til betingelserne dagen i forvejen.
Against this backdrop we can only welcome the fact that the Commission is now seeking to take sensible steps to soften the blow of this decline, which is still continuing and looks likely to persist into the future, and assist the process of adjustment in the coalfields.
Vi ønsker derfor mere præcise oplysninger, så medlem merne bedre kan forberede sig på denne vigtige forhandling.
The European People's Party therefore warmly welcomes the Commission's plans to use its structural and
Formanden. — Taletiden er anført i den nuværende udgave af dagsordenen.
WYNN (S). — Mr President, in thanking David Martin for his report I would say that the money proposed in the Rechar project is long overdue, although, of course, it is extremely welcome.
Der er ikke forhandling om disse spørgsmål, mine damer og herrer.
I represent the vast majority of what was known as the Lancashire coalfields in the North West of England.
Der er truffet en beslutning, og den skal gennemføres.
In my area there has been coalmining for probably 200 years.
Cresson, formand for Rådet. — (FR) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, jeg vil ganske kort svare på det, der er blevet sagt.
In the Wigan area they have reclaimed more derelict land in the last 15 years than anywhere else in Western Europe.
Der blev for øvrigt sagt mange, meget interessante ting under denne righoldige forhandling om de institutionelle problemer på
Unfortunately, they still have more derelict land than anywhere else in Western Europe. In St Helens nearby
Cresson et ikke blot for Fællesskabet, men hele Europa historisk tidspunkt.
WYNN vast tracks of derelict land still exist. Therefore Rechar is welcome.
Spørgsmålet om Parlamentets inddragelse kom meget klart til udtryk, hvilket er yderst forståeligt. ligt.
If it were to be that, then indeed it would have nil effect on our communities.
Ved flere lejligheder omtaltes afholdelsen af rege ringskonferencen om Den Økonomiske og Monetære Union, der blev talt om de spørgsmål, som traktatændringen indebærer, og fra flere hold beklagede man sig meget over forbindelserne mellem de tre institutioner og over en vis mangel på demokrati mellem Kommissionen, Parlamentet og Rådet.
If the EEC fails to do this, if it fails to respond positively to the problems which we now face, then the mining communities will increasingly — and in my opinion quite rightly — treat the EEC with disdain.
Jeg synes også, at det vil være udmærket, dersom man i medlemsstaterne vil gøre sig nogle overvejelser derom. Igen i dette tilfælde har Italien vist vejen ved afholdelse af en folkeafstemning derom samme dag som valget til Europa-Parlamentet, og det italienske deputeretkammer vedtog den 14. november i år en beslutning, der vidner om dets interesse for sagen.
However, let this House be clear. Regardless of recent decisions and recent action, the British Government is still determined to run down the coalmining industry in our country which will damage local communities in the process.
Det er ønskeligt at det samme sker i de øvrige medlemsstater og i Parlamentet, og det er ønskeligt, at alle parlamenterne i medlemsstaterne interesserer sig for denne sag.
However, my plea to the Commissioner is : 'Please ensure that Rechar money is not misused by the British Government'.
Faktisk udnyttes Parlamentets rettigheder ikke altid, især ikke initiativretten, hvilket et medlem meget rigtigt gjorde opmærksom på. Denne initiativret eksisterer, men ingen her vil prøve på at bestride, at der fremdeles skal gøres meget for at forbedre funktionsprocedurerne mellem de tre institutioner.
Finally, I would ask Mr Millan to have further discussions with the local authorities in order to widen the projects eligible for these funds, and in speaking to the local authorities he will be speaking to the experts, the people who actually live with the problems day in, day out.
Vi oplever nu, at den europæiske opbygnings grund læggende værdier vender tilbage, hvilket klart frem gik af kommissionsformandens tale.
Before I conclude, Mr President, I must pay tribute to the coalfield communites' campaign in the United Kingdom and its European counterpart for the way that they have lobbied for this programme.
Alle disse juridiske debatter og legitime krav fra Parlamentet viser, at problemet i sidste ende er politisk : Hvilket Europa ønsker vi? Det er nemlig det, der ligger bag disse naturligt nok nødvendige formelle forslag.
Coal is not only a fuel of the past, but it is also a fuel of the future. Rechar is there to compensate for the problems of the past.
Hvad Den Økonomiske og Monetære Union angår, glædede det mig at konstatere, at der praktisk talt er enighed derom i Parlamentet.
On behalf of the area I represent, I thank the Commissioner and his staff for the work that they have done.
Spørgsmålet blev berørt. Uanset om der bliver tale om en eller to, så tror jeg, at man kan sige, at der er konsensus om, at de bør ligge tæt sammen og afvikles efter en stram tidsplan.
As the House will know, there is no formal commitment on the part of the Commission to consult Parliament on these Community initiatives, but I am very happy to do so in this case.
Det italienske formandskab blev også nævnt, og det er ganske rigtigt, at Italien i tidens løb har vist at have store evner på det institutionelle område.
I shall also be happy to continue that practice on the other Community initiatives which I hope will be coming forward over the next few months.
Derfor skal det nok blive en meget interessant periode.
I welcome the opinions of the Members of this House on these matters.
Så spurgte man mig, om der under konferencen kun skulle tales om dette ene spørgsmål.
SMITH Llewellyn (S). — Mr President, the regional Commissioner, in his document setting out the aims of Rechar, states that the redundancies in the coalmining industry are partly the result of competition from the nuclear industry.
Nej, man kan selvfølgelig komme ind på mange andre spørgsmål : den sociale dimension, miljøspørgsmål etc. Men måske skal man ikke blande det hele sammen.
I think that the events, and indeed the disclosures, of the past few weeks in Britain would disprove that statement, because both the nuclear industry and the Government have now admitted for the first time that nuclear power is three times more expensive than coal.
Men det er givet, at Parlamentet med fuld berettigelse interesserer sig for mange forskellige emner.
They, in fact, have now agreed to the arguments which many of us have been putting for many a long year.
Vi har imidlertid brug for begge dele samtidig.
That, of course, is justification enough.
Det er vanskeligt nok i den enkelte medlemsstat, og det er selvfølgelig endnu vanskeligere i europæisk målestok.
Can I assure those who are worried that this programme in some way be connected with a Commission wish to have further coalmining closures in the Community that this programme is not intended — and I cannot emphasize this too strongly — to pave the way for further restructuring and further closures in the Community's coalmining industry.
Ingen vil give afkald på en vis effektivitet og spilde sin tid på endeløse forhandlinger for derved at forpasse sine chancer.
That is now history. What is important is that we who live in mining communities have to live with the consequences of those decisions which were not, as we were told, based on competition.
Tiden er knap nu, det fremgår af det, der sker i Østeuropa.
They were based on prejudice. They were based on bigotry.
Der er heller ingen, der ønsker at slå en streg over den nødvendige demokratiske medindflydelse fra dem, der repræsenterer Europas borgere.
They were based on a false ideology. The consequences in the South Wales coalfield are a loss of 23 000 jobs and indeed, as Mr David said, almost a total destruction of the industry.
Det er den opgave, der i dag venter os, og samtidig haster det med at få løst disse problemer.
It affects not just the industry, but the communities who very often depend on them.
Jeg tror, at Rådet og Kommissionen sammen vil overveje det.
I would not wish to restrict these possibilities in any way.
Jeg er for øvrigt overbevist om, at Kommissionen i april vil forelægge forslag derom, idet det er til den tid, at formanden for Kommissionen har varslet sine første forslag.
So I hope that we can have a coherent attack on the problems of the areas which are affected in this way.
Spørgsmålet om det juridiske grundlag for indkaldelse af konferencen om Den Økonomiske og Monetære Union er efter min opfattelse helt klart.
Mr Millan has kindly agreed to visit some of our communities in the New Year and I am sure that he will be able to see and talk to some of the people who have been directly affected by those redundancies.
Det juridiske grundlag for afholdelse af en regeringskonference er proceduren for traktatrevisioner, som er fastsat i Traktatens artikel 236 i forbindelse med en række lignende bestemmelser især i EKSF-Trakta-ten.
His initiative on Rechar is to be welcomed, though the amounts of money involved will in no way begin to solve the kind of problems with which we are faced in the kind of mining communities that I represent in South-East Wales.
Enhver medlemsstats regering eller Kommis sionen kan tage initiativet til revision af Traktaterne.
Be that as it may, the Commission has at last begun to recognize the problems and hopefully in the months and years to come, you can build on the kind of initiatives which are set out in Rechar, ensuring that the amount of money is indeed relevant to the problem at hand.
Jeg kan fortælle Dem, at formandskabet har opfattet Deres anmodning om en bedre og mere demokratisk
In other words, not to widen the definition of the areas of eligibility in a way which would spread the funds too thinly.
Det er et overordentligt positivt element i den nuværende periode, da det som bekendt også er et af formandskabet inderligt næret ønske.
I welcome the general thrust of the report in favour of the programme and it is certainly my intention now to get it going as quickly as possible and although it will certainly by no means solve all the problems in the coalmining areas, I hope that it will make a useful contribution to their solution.
det 127 000 arbejdspladser, et fald på omkring en tredjedel i antallet af beskæftigede i kulindustrien.
points of concern. There is, however, a problem in areas which are not at present eligible for regional fund assistance because the regulations do not allow Regional Fund money to be used except in Objectives 1, 2 or 5(b) areas.
Den nedadgående tendens fortsætter des værre.
There are formidable legal and other problems involved in that.
Jeg tror, at formandskabets tilstedeværelse i højere grad end en lang tale viser dets reelle ønske om at gøre Parlamentet til stedet for disse forhandlinger, da De jo repræsenterer Europas folk, hvorfor det, da der jo er tale om et for vor fremtid grundlæggende spørgsmål, er ret og rimeligt, at formandskabet kommer til stede her for at tale for og med Dem.
Outside the eligible areas we would be going below the NUTS 3 level, a point which was raised in the debate, and trying to focus any assistance as far as possible on the local areas directly affected.
Det samlede udvalg er glad for Kom missionens initiativ, og vi påskønner især de bestræbelser, som kommissær Milian har gjort sig. Vi vil også gerne komplimentere den fælles europæiske pressionsgruppe. »En aktion for minedistrikterne«, for deres gode kampagner og lobbyvirksomhed.
In other words, that accepts the progressive abandon ment of the coal fields in the light of considerations that I consider as being more speculative than economic, sacrificing to these considerations the strategy for independence in the energy sector or, at least, a reduction in the European Continent's energy dependence. dence.
Formanden. — Jeg sætter nu anmodningen om afstemning snarest muligt om de to beslutningsforslag som afslutning på forhandlingen om de institutionelle problemer under afstemning.
So far as the finance is concerned, we are thinking at the moment in terms of something similar to what was provided for under Renaval and Resider which might be about ECU 300 million.
Når det er sagt, er der et antal punkter, som udvalget gerne vil udtrykke sin bekymring for.
That will be a decision which will be taken very shortly and I hope that aspect of the matter will be cleared very quickly.
For det første ligger det os på sinde, at RECHAR ikke bruges til at retfærdiggøre fremtidige tab af arbejds pladser og lukninger af miner.
I should not like in any of the Community initiatives we shall be consider ing during the next few months to have figures which are absolutely inflexible.
Det er af afgørende betydning, at der ikke etableres nogen forbindelse mellem tildelingen af midler fra RECHAR og beslutninger om at lukke miner eller reducere beskæftigelsen inden for kulindustrien.
It will depend on the response we get to the programmes and we shall take it from there.
For det andet insisterer udvalget på, at alle hjælpeprogram mer til mineområderne skal supplere de midler, der allerede er til rådighed.
So, whatever the figure is I personally would not want it to be an absolute bar to extending the programme further if we found that that was justified.
Ellers ville det ikke gavne mineområderne.
At the moment it is likely to be something around ECU 300 million.
Midlerne bør bevilges ud over dem, der allerede er stillet til rådighed af strukturfondene og af medlemsstaterne.
How ever, this particular initiative has to be considered in the context of the total demand on the funds available and these are of course not unlimited.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er betænkning (dok. A3-64/89) af David Martin for Udvalget om Regionalpolitik og Fysisk Planlægning om Kommissionens initiativ til et regionalt handlingsprogram vedrørende økonomisk omstrukturering af kulminedistrikter (RECHAR).
On the other hand, the lower cost of imported coal is very largely the result of the inhuman exploitation of labour in vast areas of the world, not excluding some areas of our own Europe which, bursting the dykes of oppression, are calling for democracy at the social level as well.
Kulminedistrikerne mangler ofte en vidt forgrenet økonomisk basis.
The programme would run at least until 1993.
De har problemer med jordfald som følge af minedriften, forringede miljøforhold og forsømmelse, og de færdigheder, de råder over, lader sig ikke let overføre til andre industrier.
I do not believe that these programmes can run successfully unless we get that kind of local initiative involvement, particularly of the elected members at a local level.
David Martin (S), ordfører. — (EN) Hr. formand, RECHAR er et program, der skal hjælpe med økonomisk omstrukturering af tidligere kulminedistrikter og forhindre en yderligere tilbagegang i eksisterende kulminedistrikter gennem hjælp, der skal komme fra Den Europæiske Regionaludviklingsfond, Den Europæiske Socialfond og som lån fra Det Europæiske Kul- og Stålfællesskab og Den Europæiske Investeringsbank.
Moreover, the balance of payments as a whole should also be borne in mind when assessing the desirability of research, which could very largely make it possible to reduce production costs, taking into account the enormous progress that is being made in technology.
Når man tager problemerne og antallet af tabte arbejdspladser i betragtning, er det klart at kulminedistrikterne behøver omfattende investeringer.
So far as additionality is concerned, the Rechar programmes will be outside the Community support frameworks for Objective 1 and Objective 2 areas and of course there is a provision in the regulations about additionality.
Det blev besluttet her til morgen, at debatten skulle finde sted kl. 22.30 i aften.
The vote will take place at 11.30 a.m. tomorrow.
Så kl. 15.00 blev det besluttet at flytte den frem til kl. 18.30 Det førte til en situation, hvor det var umuligt at underrette de delegerede.
(The sitting was suspended at 7.20 p.m. and resumed at 9.05 p.m.)
Det område, hvor der var nogen uenighed inden for udvalget, var med hensyn til omfanget af RECHAR-programmet.
These are two most important issues, and Council must continue to exert pressure towards their resolution.
Nogle medlemmer mente, at RECHAR kun skulle hjælpe de områder, der alle rede er støtteberettigede under de nuværende fælles skabsbestemmelser.
It is not possible between us, as we talk about unity, for two such important matters to remain outstanding.
Men et flertal i udvalget valgte den opfattelse, og det var også min opfattelse, at de 10% af kulminedistrikterne, der ligger uden for de regioner, hvor man i øjeblikket kan få hjælp fra EFRU, bør kunne kvalificere sig til bistand, hvis de opfylder visse kriterier.
It is a deficiency in the Community's policy, a holding back, which cannot be allowed to continue. Here, we are progressing towards the convergence of peoples and states which in the past opposed each other on the battlefields and fought wars.
Det var de kriterier, der blev formuleret i Kommissionens eget dokument: For det første, at økonomien i området var stærkt afhængigt af kulminedrift; for det andet, at omfat tende tab af arbejdspladser inden for kulmineindustrien i den seneste tid og/eller forventede tab af arbejdspladser med stor sandsynlighed ville føre til en forværring af beskæftigelsessituationen i regionen, og for det tredje, at området havde en ar bejdsløshedsprocent på eller over gennemsnittet i Fællesskabet, når man tog hensyn til den sandsynlige vækst i arbejdsløsheden som følge af forventede tab af arbejdspladser.
At this very moment, however, Turkey is in a provincial spirit imposing the division of a small island, a small State, and the Political Affairs Committee and the Council of Association must consequently do something much more positive about the matter than it has ever done so far.
Efter min mening behandler Parlamentet kulminedistrikterne med foragt.
IN THE CHAIR: MR CAPUCHO
Jeg er sikker på at det er det budskab, disse delegerede vil tage med tilbage til deres minesamfund, når de vender hjem i løbet af de nærmeste dage.
Cyprus cannot any longer be left in its present condition with Europe and the other powers with interests in that area standing aloof.
Men Deres erklæring vil blive taget til efterretning.
This evening we shall examine questions to the Council and to the Foreign Ministers.
For at nå dette mål mente man, at midlerne fra RECHAR skulle bevilges på et niveau under NUTS Ill-niveau Fællesskabets normale planlægningsniveau.
Europe cannot remain indifferent to that, since it involves the restoration of a historic right of the Armenian people: that it should finally be recognized that genocide took place.
I Det Forenede Kongerige ville det passende niveau for tildelingen af bistand fra RECHAR blive på kommunalt niveau.
Question No 1 will not receive an answer as this subject already forms part of the agenda for this part-session.
García Arias (S), ordfører for udtalelsen fra Energi, Forsknings- og Teknologiudvalget. — (ES) Hr. for mand, jeg tilslutter mig hr. Smiths protest.
Subject: Parliament's resolutions on a political solution to the Armenian question (18 June 1987)J
Torsdag og fredag vil repræsentanter for minedistrikterne holde møde her, og mange af dem havde til hensigt at være til stede her i salen i dag for at lytte til forhandlingen.
I must also say that already in America Senator Robert Dole has introduced a bill, a resolution before Congress, concerning action on the matter and Congress is expected to do something about it.
Lad mig slutte med at rekapitulere den generelle tendens i udvalgets opfattelse.
CRESSON. — (FR) Mr President, since no question was asked I have no answer to give.
Udvalget om Regionalpolitik og Fysisk Planlægning mener, at kommis sær Milian i betragtning af de budgetmæssige og lovgivningsmæssige restriktioner har taget et vel komment og vigtigt initiativ hen imod at hjælpe kulminedistrikterne ved at stille ressourcer til rådighed, som de har desperat brug for til deres omstrukturering.
Is the Council prepared, in the context of the work of the EEC-Turkey Association Council, to discuss the above resolutions of Parliament and, in particular, recognition of Turkey's genocide of the Armenians and the withdrawal of the Turkish forces occupying Cyprus ?