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Jeg vil derimod holde på, at Georges Donnez, ordføreren i den sag, og Parlamentet i disse ti år har haft en holdning, der må kendetegnes som
On the basis of our Rules of Procedure which we hold dear — something that I
Det er det stik modsatte af en racistisk udtalelse. Jean-Marie Le Pen vurderer, at de for flere århundreder siden blev sørøvere i Middelhavet, ikke på grund af guderne må vide hvilken anormalitet, men fordi de var tvunget dertil, da de naturgivne ressourcer blev sjældne og ørkenen bredte sig.
I think in fact that the jurisprudence of our Assembly in relation to the waiver of immunity, the jurisprudence of Donnez/Gil-Robles, must not be weakened by the precedents which we could put forward concerning the individual case of Mr Le Pen.
Vil man gøre en sådan udtalelse ulovlig, bliver man nødt til at brænde samtlige bøger af Karl Marx, af Engels og af alle tilhængere af den historiske materialisme, man bliver endog nødt til at forbyde Mon tesquieu og hans teori om klimaets indflydelse på de menneskelige samfund.
It is true that we are, and that we will often be on a knife edge when it comes to deciding when and in which circumstances the fundamental principle of the independence of members, which it is the very purpose of immunity to protect, must be waived.
Kære kolleger, jeg ved, at udvalget gentagne gange har foreslået Dem at opretholde Jean-Marie Le Pens parlamentariske immunitet, men Europa-Parlamentets flertal, som lever op til de af Pavlov påviste betingede reflekser, har ikke tilsluttet sig denne holdning.
In the case in point, I think that the incriminating article certainly simplifies matters. However, no one can ignore the perversity of the insinuation and no one can seriously pretend that this is not a political opinion.
Dette er så sandt, at når vi går med til at ophæve immunitet, bliver der ikke rejst nogen sag.
However, we are all very far from the position taken by Mr Le Pen and his party, and this will be demonstrated later in the week when we come to the debate on the condemnation and prevention of racism and xenophobia.
Derfor ser vi på den anden side, da det franske folk efter min overbevisning er højt civiliseret, resultaterne af denne fascistiske, dumme og intolerante politik over for et mindretal, der med rette eller urette anklages for at være fascister.
We certainly have nothing in common with the policies represented by Mr Le Pen and his party which have had and continue to have undesirable effects in France and elsewhere.
Gollnisch (DR). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg har fået tre minutter til en stemmeforklaring vedrørende betænkning af hr. Gil-Robles.
In fact, as we are well aware, the matter goes much further than the assessment of a single text.
Det er min kollega Martinez, som, dersom jeg ikke tager fejl, står på talerlisten vedrørende Stavrou-betænkningen.
It is the whole ideology of the National Front which verges on incitement to racial hatred and antisemitism.
Lad derfor denne procedure fortsætte lige til enden og gid gentagelsen af den vil være et vidnesbyrd om, at proceduren er uretfærdig, at denne hårdnakkethed afslører Deres ideologis totalitære karakter.
Fortunately there are other weapons with which to fight against racism, false analyses, summary solutions and demagogic remarks and I hope to see our Assembly make a firm commitment in this direction.
Jeg vil derfor med Deres tilladelse fatte mig i korthed, da vi, kære kolleger, for tredje gang står over for en anmodning fra den franske justitsminister op ophævelse af Jean-Marie Le Pens parlamentariske immunitet.
On a second point our group are unanimous : Member's rights of immunity — in as far as they are justified at all — must be reduced to a minimum.
Ford (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg må sige, at hr. Gollnisch' indlæg om hr. Le Pen mindede mig om den engelske talemåde: »Den ubeskrivelige på jagt efter det uspiselige«. Den Socialistiske Gruppes stilling er utvetydig.
There is no reason why, in a constitutional state, members of parliament should be granted more protection than the ordinary citizen.
Vi går ind for ophævelse af immunitet ved racistisk opvigling, der er i modstrid med national lov.
We wish to prevent this from happening in the future and call for a reduction in the rights of immunity.
I de andre sager, der er blevet rejst mod hr. Le Pen, har vi støttet immunitetsophævelsen, og det er blevet fulgt af anklagerejsning og domfældelse.
On the whole, our group are all agreed that in this case the French courts have made themselves even more ridiculous than usual and that they may have managed to lend Mr Le Pen an aura of martyrdom — which is of course only too beneficial to his policy. We do not wish to support this.
Denne regering viser sig kun kompetent, genial, ihærdig og udholdende, når det gælder om at hæmme dens største politiske modstanders ytringsfrihed.
In this particular instance we feel there is no reason for the courts to deal with this matter. If there are cases of crimes of opinion, then this
På grundlag af vor forretningsorden, som vi holder meget af, hvilket jeg kan mistænke vore kolleger på det yderste højre for ikke at gøre, støtter vi derfor de konklusioner, som Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet er kommet til.
These poor sightless sheep cannot see that in doing so they have made an absolute mockery of all the committee's work, and even less can they see that they have been guided by political hatred and fear — bad counsellors both of them, but of course the blind cannot sec that either.
Og til dem, der er bekymret over, at dette kan opfattes som støtte til hr. Le Pen, vil jeg sige, at De senere denne uge vil få lejlighed til at stemme om min betænkning og derved gøre Deres stilling helt klar.
They have been playing with a boomerang, and, witless as they are, it is going to fly back into their faces.
I sig selv er det påskud, der anvendes, latterligt som sædvanlig.
Because the ordinary man in the street knows foul play when he sees it.
Det bebrejdes hr. Le Pen, at han i forbindelse med et interview om økologiske problemer, hvor han — desværre profetisk — omtalte
The sheer rottenness of ten against one is alien to him and he puts himself on the side of the one. Therefore every waiver of Mr Le Pen's immunity has actually helped
Fontaine (PPE). — (FR) Hr. formand, denne gang stemmer jeg ikke for ophævelse af hr. Le Pens immunitet.
DILLEN that gentleman, and the National Front and the Technical Group of the European Right as a whole.
I vor gruppe har vi altid praktiseret den mest omfattende samvittighedsfrihed for alle, og det vil også komme til udtryk under afstemningen i dag.
In particular, let everyone start working immediately to reduce the underlying causes of this resurgence by fighting against the values of national egotism which are unfortunately far too prevalent.
Vi står imidlertid alle milevidt fra de holdninger, som hr. Le Pen og hans parti repræsenterer.
For all these reasons, Mr President, I will not consider this request and I will refuse to take part in the vote.
Det vil vi bl.a. bevise her netop i denne uge, når talen er om fordømmelse og forebyggelse af racisme og frem medhad. Vi har altså helt givet intet til fælles med den politik, som hr. Le Pen og hans parti repræsenterer, og som ikke kun i Frankrig viser og har vist uheldige virkninger.
ROTH (V). — (DE) Mr President, racism is not a petty offence, the expression of racial opinions can in no way be regarded as part of the right to freedom of opinion, they injure their victims to the highest degree.
Det er givet, at det er og ofte vil blive en balanceakt, når det drejer sig om at vurdere, hvornår og under hvilke omstændigheder han skal unddrages det fundamentale princip om parlamentsmedlemmers uafhængighed, som immuniteten netop har til formål at beskytte.
NEUBAUER (DR). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, there have been three requests for waiver of Jean-Marie Le Pen's immunity.
I det foreliggende tilfælde synes jeg, at den paragraf, der er overtrådt, er simplificerende. Men alle er klar over insinuationens perversitet og ingen kan i fuldt alvor påstå, at der ikke er tale om en politisk mening.
The House should be grateful to the heads of the French judiciary who have submitted these requests as they indicate first of all that the European Parliament does not have the reputation of being overworked and secondly, as a German, I can now better appreciate why Jean-Marie Le Pen and the Front national are becoming more popular in France.
På et andet punkt står vor gruppe sammen om et bestemt standpunkt: Vi er af den mening, at immunitet til parlamentsmedlemmer — dersom den over hovedet er berettiget — skal reduceres til et minimum.
There must be something to a man if some people wish to deny him the right to express his own opinion freely, an opinion which may not be shared by those on the left of the political spectrum, but which — contrary to your views on the left of this House — frequently has the advantage of being correct and true.
Det er ikke til at se, hvorfor retsstaten skal garantere parlamentsmedlemmerne mere beskyttelse end de almindelige borgere.
I am also grateful to those responsible for making these requests as, without meaning to, they are educating our citizens.
Er det en retsstat, burde parlamentsmedlemmer egentlig ikke have brug for nogen særlig immunitet.
They are causing a large section of the public to think about Jean-Marie Le Pen's theories and this may open the eyes of some of them.
Derfor er vi i Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmer nes Immunitet gået ind for, at den hidtidige immunitetspraksis reduceres og indskrænkes.
No part session should go by without a request for the waiving of Jean-Marie Le Pen's immunity.
Det vil vi ikke have for fremtiden, og derfor går vi ind for en begrænsning af immunitetsretten. Vi mener — og også derom er vor gruppe i det store og hele enig
Even though we intend to vote for the committee's recommendation, we are still pleased that our political opponents are playing their part in promoting our philosophy.
I sidste instans ved vi jo godt, at spørgsmålet går langt videre end vurderingen af en ukompliceret tekst.
BANDRES MOLET (V). — (ES) Mr President, I am going to make use of my freedom to vote against the committee's report.
Det er hele Den Nationale Fronts ideologi, som er på grænsen af anstiftelse af racehad og antisemitisme.
And I do not do so under any Pavlovian influence, which is perhaps exactly what one would be doing in voting in favour of the report ; nor am I driven by hatred to do so: hatred has no place in my outlook.
— at det franske retsvæsen i det her foreliggende tilfælde har nået en sjælden kulmination med hensyn til latterlighed og at det muligvis vil lykkes for det at forsyne hr. Le Pen med en martyrglorie, hvilket sikkert vil være yderst belejligt for ham i hans politik.
That its why I think Mr Le Pen should face justice, if he has committed what in principle, prima facie, a French judge regards not as a crime of opinion, but as an incitement to racism.
Der er heldigvis andre våben til bekæmpelse af racisme, falske analyser, summariske løsninger og demagogiske udtalelser og det er den vej, jeg ønsker, at Europa-Parlamentet resolut skal slå ind på.
None of the voters whom I represent in this Assembly would understand my taking a position different from the one I am going to adopt, even if it is a minority one.
Hvad angår afstemningen om ophævelse eller ej af immuniteten, er en del af vor gruppe af den mening — og det vil den vise under afstemningen — at enhver form for bebrejdelse for anstiftelse til racehad eller lignende af Europa-Parlamentet skal behandles på nøjagtig samme måde som andre bebrejdelser for alvorlig kriminalitet, dvs. retten skal gå sin gang.
MONNIER-BESOMBES (V). — (FR) Mr President, I come from a town, Marseilles, in which for a long time the only vehicle of xenophobic propaganda was the work of a large daily newspaper which was bailed out by one of the Socialist Party's symbolic figures, namely, the late Mr Gaston Déferre.
Således vil en del af vor gruppe stemme for ophævelse af hr. Le Pens immunitet.
One of the paradoxes is that this figure, who was a lawyer by profession and Minister of the Interior, curiously failed to ensure that the principles of the law of 1972 which suppresses such crimes, were complied with in this newspaper.
En anden del af vor gruppe, som også jeg hører til — og det har jeg givet udtryk for i Udvalget for Forretningsordenen — er af den mening, at Europa-Parlamentet ikke skal bedømme realia, men kun afgøre, om retsvæsenet skal tage sig af en sag eller ej.
Further more, I fail to see how a Minister of Justice can find a play on words — admittedly one which is vitriolic, because of the mockery it attempts to throw over a sinister period of history — more reprehensible than the statements of senior statesmen, who adopt the attitudes of the theories which they claim to fight against.
Vi mener, at netop i det foreliggende tilfælde er der ikke nogen anledning til, at retsvæsenet beskæftiger sig med denne sag.
To quote just one example, I will mention the underhand reference to the tolerance threshold, which has been stamped with the Presidential seal since 1989.
Hvis der findes tilfælde af såkaldte ytringsforseelser,
It is therefore in this dual context that I am posing these questions.
Dillen (DR). — (NL) Hr. formand, hvem guderne vil tilintetgøre, slår de med blindhed.
I think that some of us in this Assembly are afraid of making the reasons governing our failure to choose
Disse kloge ord kender de forblindede ikke selv.
BETTINI (V). — (IT) Mr President, the positions within our group are very varied.
Den forblindelse, hvormed man igen og igen anmoder om ophævelse af Le Pens immunitet, skyldes ikke ret færdighed, men politisk had og angst. Det samme gælder den forbindelse, hvormed man indvilligede i denne anmodning, endog imod udvalgets udtalelse.
For example, mine diverges a fair bit from that of my colleague Mr Bandrés Molet and I do not think that what Mr Le Pen said in the 'Present' interview was so very devastating, as it was
Begge er dårlige rådgivere.
actually about the 'culture of populations' in relation to energy resources.
Heller ikke det indså de forblindede.
from the Green Group in the
Han tåler ikke det tarvelige ved ti mod én, han støtter den ene.
There is nothing execrable in what he said.
Derfor kom enhver ophævelse af Le Pens immunitet ham selv, Front National og hele De Europæiske Højrepartiers Gruppe til gode.
An attitude of intolerance is being adopted in the debates, also evidenced by the fact that Mr Schodruch was discarded as rapporteur, against those who represent a minority, against the weak.
Disse to ting er baggrunden for min tvivl.
Personally I think that the main beneficiary of this totally ridiculous strategy in my opinion, is Mr Le Pen himself.
Jeg tror, vi er nogle i Europa-Parlamentet, som ikke vil erkende, hvorfor der træffes sådanne uhensigtsmæssige valg.
These facts may be turned aginst us and used to damage our very credibility.
For mange af os er det en dårlig oplevelse at se Europa-Parlamentet brugt som bil lard.
Some of Le Pen's remarks are reflected in the Italian laws against non-members of the Community.
Af alle disse grunde, hr. formand, kan jeg ikke gå ind for denne anmodning, og jeg nægter at deltage i afstemningen. ningen.
I shall vote in favour of the Gil Robles report and express the hope that this Parliament will never sink so low again.
Neubauer (DR). — (DE) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, allerede tre gange er der kommet en ansøgning om ophævelse af Jean-Marie Le Pens immunitet. Jeg er af den mening, at Europa-Parlamentet bør sige tak til de forskellige ansøgere i spidsen af det franske retsvæsen, for for det første viser disse gentagelser, at Europa-Parlamentet åbenbart ikke mistænkes for være særlig overbeskæftiget, og for det andet forstår jeg i dag som tysker bedre, hvorfor Jean-Marie Le Pen og Front National i Frankrig kan glæde sig over stigende popularitet.
MELANDRI (V). — (IT) I would like to ask honourable members sitting in front of me not to applaud, even if I am going to vote against the request to revoke the immunity of the honourable Mr Le Pen, because frankly, their ideology, their fascism and their racism make me sick.
Roth (V). — (DE) Hr. formand, racisme er ikke noget, der kan undskyldes.
Having said that, I would also express my conviction that democracy absolutely cannot be defended against fascism or racism by contradicting democratic rules.
Racistiske udtalelser er ikke på nogen måde frie meningstilkendegivelser.
I do not think it is right to act in this way and I am against such a method of conducting matters of partliamentary immunity.
De sårer i højeste grad dem, de angår.
I think this ought to be regulated differently.
Der er ingen undskyldning, når mennesker diskrimineres på grund af deres etniske oprindelse, hudfarve, køn, religion eller seksuel orientering.
But until then these exist and must be respected, and so in the name of democratic legality I shall vote against the request for authorization to proceed against the honourable Mr Le Pen.
Der må jo være noget ved en mand, som nogle mennesker ikke en gang mere vil tilstå retten til ustraffet at sige sin mening, en mening, som man måske ikke formår at dele på det politiske spektrums venstrefløj, men som — i modsætning til de opfattelser, De har på Europa-Parlamentets ven strefløj — ofte har den fordel, at de er rigtige og sande.
TAZDAÏT (V). — (FR) Mr President, unfortunately I don't have very much time to explain all the feelings which this debate stirs up in me.
Min tak gælder også af den grund ansøgerne, fordi de måske ubevidst opnår en folkepædagogisk effekt.
Mr Gollnisch certainly has a lot of cheek to talk about the situation in Vaulx-en-Velin in the suburbs of Lyon.
De får nemlig et bredt publikum til at beskæftige sig med hr. Jean-Marie Le Pens teser, og det kan for mangen en Saulus være en slags Damas-kus-oplevelse.
He himself is very active there in stirring up the strongest tensions and he himself supported the murderer who killed a young man and is appearing in court today and tomorrow.
Når parlamentsmedlem Le Pen betegner folk fra Maghreb som røvere, når han betegner dem som en national trussel, så er det ham, der ophidser, ham, der driver systematisk folkeforfølgelse og dermed danner grundlaget for diskriminering, vold, et blodigt, dræbende, skrækkeligt spor, som findes i EF, og det er ikke en mening, der skal beskyttes, det er entydigt en forbrydelse.
It is real justice which I would like to defend, when minority groups or foreigners — who, Mrs Fontaine, are the ones on a knife edge, not us — only have as their last means of defence this unequal and inadequate law of which they themselves are the victims.
Til min identitet som med lem af De Grønne hører kampen mod racisme i alle dens former og udtryksmåder.
I think that it is my duty to defend this judge who is going to sentence Mr Le Pen.
Jeg føler mig dybt ramt af disse udtalelser. Derfor stemmer jeg for ophævelse af immuniteten.
I will defend this judge who is going to sentence Mr Le Pen because Mr Le Pen is not a democrat and by including him in a general argument on the question of immunity in our Parliament, we become accomplices.
Derfor synes jeg ikke, at der skulle gå en eneste mødeuge i Europa-Parlamentet uden ansøgning om ophævelse af Jean-Marie Le Pens immunitet.
You know, just over forty years ago, Jews and gypsies were gassed quite legally and legitimately.
Selv om vi nu stemmer for henstillingen fra udvalget, er det os alligevel en glæde, at den politiske modstander yder sit bidrag til udbredelse af vore tanker.
People were acting quite legally, Mr Pesident, ladies and gentlemen. So, how far does our political and legal consistency go?
Et af paradokserne er, at denne person, advokat af profession, som blev indenrigsminister, mærkværdigvis undlod i denne avis at få overholdt grundbegreberne i loven fra 1972, som i dette tilfælde forfølger sådanne retsbrud.
And it is what Mr Lc Pen has done more than once in the case dealt with in this report. That is why I want the courts to decide whether or not his political statements in this case are also criminal.
Bandrés Molet (V). — (ES) Hr. formand, jeg gør brug af min frihed til at stemme imod udvalgets betænkning.
So, Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, it's not up to Mr Gollnisch or Mr Le Pen to decide our moral standards for us.
Og det er ikke et udslag af Pavlovs refleks, for hvis det var tilfældet, ville jeg muligvis netop stemme for betænkningen; det er heller ikke had, der tilskynder mig hertil: Der er ikke plads til had i min ideologi.
Today, as a result of political weakness on the question of immigration and racism, we are forced to give judges the means with which to judge criminals, because in fact, Mr Le Pen is nostalgic for the former
Jeg kan allerhøjest over for hr. Le Pens ideer føle ren og skær foragt.
So I shall vote against the conclusions of the report.
Men jeg stemmer imod, for jeg tror ikke, at det er det franske justitsministerium, der forfølger hr. Le Pen, men at en fransk dommer derimod har fundet reelle indicier på, at hr. Le Pen ved sin handlemåde har begået en lovovertrædelse.
I do so in the hope of at least contributing to putting an end to the most serious acts of racism and xenophobia. Since 1982, Wahid Hachichi, Ahmed Boutelja, Mahomed
Bandrés Molet politisk forbrydelse.
And two days ago, Thomas Claudio.
Jeg tror ikke, at det franske retsvæsen er et underudviklet retsvæsen.
I cast my vote in their name.
Jeg tror, hr. formand, at når jeg handler således, gør jeg blot fælles sag med det, som enhver af mine vælgere ville gøre.
If I do not comply then I am rightly prosecuted in the courts.
Bottini (V). — (IT) Hr. formand, meningerne er meget delte i vor gruppe.
ROGALLA (S). — (DE) Mr President, following what my colleague Mr Ford has already said, I shall be brief.
Tazdaït (V). — (FR) Hr. formand, desværre har jeg kun kort tid til at forklare al den sindsbevægelse, denne debat vækker i mig.
RAMIREZ HEREDIA (S), in writing. — (ES) Mr President, what I have to say should not be interpreted as a denial of the law which allows Mr Le Pen to behave just as he chooses.
Hr. Gollnisch er ikke så lidt fræk, når han udtaler sig om situationen i Vaulx-en-Velin i omegnen af Lyon.
I long ago absorbed Voltaire's message : 'I disapprove of what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.'
Denne morder slipper sikkert uden straf!
This is a point that must be made time and again.
Jeg mener, at det er min pligt at forsvare den dommer, som vil dømme hr. Le Pen.
I would like to emphasize that I support the report unreservedly and that I have also asked my Socialist colleagues to vote in the same way.
Jeg vil forsvare denne dommer, som vil dømme hr. Le Pen, fordi hr. Le Pen ikke er demokrat, og fordi vi ved at lade ham indgå i en global argumentation vedrø rende spørgsmålet om immunitet her i mødesalen bliver medskyldige.
When Le Pen says that because of desertification and demography the inhabitants of the Third World are going to embark on the conquest of Europe, what does he mean to inspire in the mind of the ordinary European citizen ?
Som De ved, dræbte man for godt fyrre år siden i al lovlighed og med retten på sin side jøder og sigøjnere i gaskamre.
TELKÄMPER (V). — (DE) Mr President, parliamen tary immunity exists to enable Members to express their opinions in parliamentary and political debates in freedom and to discuss political differences without fear.
Man handlede i al lovlighed, hr. formand, kære kolleger.
The sons of darkness are craftier than the sons of light.
Altså, hvor vidt strækker sig vor politiske og retslige kohærens?
Le Pen is an old fox — he knows exactly when to launch into his howlings to terrify the people and achieve success for his tired old fascist theses through fear and threats.
Det er følgelig, hr. formand, kære kolleger, hverken hr. Gollnisch' eller hr. Le Pens opgave at præke moral for os.
This time he may perhaps escape French justice, but he will not escape the condemnation and scorn of every democrat in Europe.
(Bifald fra De Grønne)
(Parliament munity)