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') Andre ændringer af tirsdagens dagsorden: se protokollen.
For other changes to Tuesday's agenda : see Minutes.
Jeg vil gerne bede Dem bekræfte, om det er tilfældet, og i så fald vil jeg gerne byde dem velkommen.
BEAZLEY like you to confirm if that is the case and, if so, I would like to welcome them.
Må jeg bede Dem, hr. formand, på forsamlingens vegne sende et kondolencebudskab og vor inderlige medfølelse med ofrene for disse terroristangreb og de efterladte?
May I ask you, Mr President, on behalf of the House to send a message of condolence and our deepest sympathy to the victims of these terrorist attacks and to the bereaved ?
Jeg vil bare tilføje en historisk bemærkning, nemlig at vi skal passe på, at det, der sker nu, ikke bliver en gentagelse af 1848, og endnu værre at situationen kan løses med den situation, der fandtes i 1871 i Tyskland.
I would just add one historical allusion, namely that we have to be careful that what happens now is not a repeat of 1848 and, even worse, that the situation might be resolved by the situation that existed in 1871 in Germany.
Vi må visse styrke nu, og vi skal støtte disse lande. Jeg er sikker på, at det vil være husets vilje.
We have to show strength now and we have to support these countries.
Jeg vil også kraftigt opfordre Dem til i dette bud skab at sige, at forsamlingen beklager vold og i særdeleshed anvendelsen af vold til terroristiske for mål.
I would also urge you to say in that message that this House deplores violence and, in particular, the use of violence towards terrorist ends.
Vi beklager dybt de grusomheder, der er begået og i særdeleshed de skader og den menneskelige lidelse, der er påført almindelige borgere og soldater, der ikke er i tjeneste.
We deeply regret the atrocities that have been committed and, in particular, the injuries and human suffering caused to ordinary civilians and to off-duty servicemen.
Formanden. — Jeg forstår Deres følelser, men lad os nu gå videre med arbejdsplanen.
PRESIDENT. — Mr Beazley, we are trying to build for the future, not look to the past.
Belo (S). — (PT) Hr. formand, inden dagsordenen godkendes, vil jeg gerne stille et spørgsmål.
PRESIDENT. — I sympathize completely but I should be grateful if we could continue with our discussion of the agenda.
Muscardini (NI). — (IT) Hr. formand, som opfølgning af det beslutningsforslag, som Den Italienske Sociale Bevægelses Gruppe har stillet, vil jeg anmode Dem om at arrangere et ekstraordinært møde i Europa-Parlamentet i Berlin for således på konkret måde at vise Europa-Parlamentets vilje til at beskæftige sig med Østlandenes kulturelle, sociale og økonomiske problemer, eller eventuelt i det mindste at afholde et ekstraordinært præsidiemøde der.
MUSCARDINI (NI). — (IT) Mr President, further to the resolution that the MSI Group has tabled, I would ask you to arrange for a special meeting of the European Parliament to be held in Berlin, to show very clearly the European Parliament's commitment to the cultural, social and economic problems of the Eastern countries ; or alternatively, at least a special meeting of the Bureau.
Det Udvidede Præsidium vil undersøge dem onsdag eftermiddag.
Why doesn't this agenda include an oral question which was submitted by the Committee on Women's Rights ?
Formanden. — Jeg tager Deres udtalelse til efterretning, og jeg beder Dem forelægge sagen på den måde, der er foreskrevet i forretningsordenen.
PRESIDENT. — We note what you have said and I would ask you to make these points via the usual channels.
(Det således ændrede forslag til dagsorden godkend tes)3)
The enlarged Bureau will consider these on Wednesday afternoon.
(Formanden oplæste de øvrige ændringer af onsdagens dagsorden) ')
(The President read out other changes to Wednesday's agenda)J
Nicholson (PPE). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne kort komme ind på bemærkningerne fra med lemmet for Colchester, frk. Mcintosh, og slutte mig til hende i medfølelsen med ofrene for vold.
VERBEEK (V). — (NL) Mr President, that was rather quick.
Tre af de mennesker, hun talte om, blev dræbt i min valgkreds.
I had wanted to speak on the Wednesday morning debate about the situation in Europe.
Jeg er sikker på, at hun vil medtage ham, da Ulster Defence Regiment også er en del af den
I would therefore ask you to let a vote be taken in plenary sitting on the question of whether or not Chancellor Kohl should speak before Parliament.
Jeg mener, at De afgør Kohl-sagen lidt for bastant og lidt for hurtigt.
Three of the people she referred to were killed in my constituency.
Dette er uden historisk fortilfælde, og jeg mener, at Parlamentet må tænke meget nøje over, hvad det gør.
I am sure it was an oversight on her part which she would like me to correct but a member of the Ulster Defence regiment was also murdered outside the city of Armagh on Friday night.
Vi har naturligvis intet imod forbundskansler Kohl, men denne forhandling må ikke blive til en tysk forhandling.
I am sure she would like to include him as the Ulster Defence Regiment is also part of the British army.
Den skal blive en europæisk forhandling. Der for anmoder jeg Dem om at lade plenarforsamlingen stemme om, hvorvidt forbundskansler Kohl skal have lov at tale her eller ej.
I would like to join with her in sympathizing with the problems in Colchester, but my constituency has been wrecked by the savagery of terrorism.
Formanden. — Jeg minder Dem om, at Rådets formandskab er fransk, og at det er en sag, som Rådets formand afgør.
In a separate incident in Northern Ireland, also over the weekend, three soldiers were killed and one seriously injured.
) Anvendelse af proceduren uden betænkning — Anvendelse af uopsættelighedsproceduren — Aktuel og uopsættelig debat (emner) — Frist for al stille ændringsforslag og indgive beslutningsforslag — Taletid: se protokollen.
Request for the application of the procedure without report — Application of urgent procedure — Topical and urgent debate (subjects to be included) — Deadline for tabling amendments and motions for resolutions — Speaking time: see Minutes.
Andrews (RDE). — (EN) Hr. formand, efter at frk. Nicholson havde udtalt sig, prøvede jeg at få ordet for at svare og støtte hende. Tre gange i træk bad jeg Dem om ordet, men blev afvist — af en eller anden grund.
PRESIDENT. — Certainly, Miss Mcintosh, because the Presidency takes the view — as I said at the first October partsession — that when it comes to acts of terrorism the House should always condemn them and express its condolences and its sympathy and solidarity with the afflicted people in Europe.
Mcintosh (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, vil De bekræfte, at De vil sende et kondolencebudskab på forsamlingens vegne?
LANGER (V). — (IT) Mr President, I should like to inform you and this Assembly of the death of the writer, Leonardo Sciascia, at one time a member of this Assembly.
Cox (LRD). — (EN) Hr. formand, også jeg vil gerne tilslutte mig bemærkningerne fra frk. Mcintosh og hr. Nicholson.
COX (LDR). — Mr President, I also wish to associate myself with the remarks of Ms Mcintosh, Mr Desmond and Mr Nicholson.
Jeg er klar over, at det falder lidt uden for den normale procedure, men jeg må sige, at da lejligheden nu er der, vil jeg gerne på vegne af min valgkreds i Republikken Irland, på mit partis og på egne vegne udtrykke medfølelse med ofrene for vold i Storbritannien, her i Kontinentaleuropa i de seneste uger og måneder og i sidste weekend i Nordirland.
I appreciate that this is somewhat outside the normal procedure but I must say that since the opportunity arises I should like, on behalf of my own constituency in the Republic of Ireland, on behalf of my party and of myself, to express sympathy with the victims of violence in Britain, here in continental Europe in recent weeks and months and last weekend in Northern Ireland.
Jeg tilslutter mig hundrede procent fordømmelsen af IRA's morderiske kampagne. De repræsenterer ikke mit folk eller mit land, og de bringer skam over vort navn ved deres adfærd i Kontinentaleuropa og andre steder ved deres morderiske kampagne.
I concur one hundred percent in condemnation of the IRA campaign of murder.
Gruppen De Grønne vil gerne mindes denne fremragende sicilianske skribent, der bidrog til sit lands og til hele Europas kultur. Vi vil også mindes det bidrag, han navnlig i sine sidste år har ydet til vor bevægelses udvikling og fremgang.
The Green Group wishes to remember this eminent Sicilian writer, who honours the culture of his country and that of the whole of Europe, and also the contribution made by him, particularly in the last year of his life, to the development and success of our movement.
Efter vor vurdering har hele Europa i ham mistet en personlighed, der udmærkede sig inden for kulturen og ved sit borgersind, og vi har derfor med det samme ønsket at hylde hans minde, efter at vi med bestyrtelse havde modtaget meddelelsen om hans død.
We believe that, with his death, the whole of Europe has lost an individual who was outstanding for his culture and commitment to society, and it is for this reason that we wished to pay tribute to him at once, immediately after having learned, with dismay, of his death.
Formanden. — Selv om det ikke er sædvane at udtale mindord over tidligere kolleger her i forsamlingen, kan jeg tilslutte mig Deres ord som formand for Parlamentet og som beundrer af hr. Sciascia.
PRESIDENT. — Although it is not the custom of the House to pay tribute to former Members, I fully share the views you have just expressed both as President of Parliament and as an admirer of Mr Sciascia.
Ophævelse af immunitet
Waiver of parliamentary immunity
McCartin (PPE). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg var fristet til at rejse mig, efter at frk. Mcintosh havde talt, for at udtrykke min sympati med dem, der havde lidt tab.
McCARTIN (PPE). — Mr. President, I was tempted to stand up after Ms Mcintosh spoke to express my sympathy with those who have been bereaved.
Det var kun, fordi De sagde, at vi ikke skulle bruge tiden, at jeg ikke gjorde det dengang.
It was only because you said that we ought not to use this time that I didn't do it then.
Imidlertid, hr. formand, fortjener De ros for at give os lidt tid til at give udtryk for støtte til det, frk. Mcintosh og hr. Nicholson sagde.
However, Mr President, you are to be commended on allowing us a short time in which to express support for what Ms Mcintosh and Mr Nicholson said.
Jeg sympatiserer med alle de mennesker, der er involveret, og med de institutioner, der skal modstå denne fanatiske og umenneskelige organisation, der foregiver at repræsentere Republikken Irlands interesser, men som faktisk kun repræsenterer en lille gruppe gale og fanatiske mennesker, der standser civilisationens gang og skader den irske enheds sag, som vi kunne støtte og arbejde for i institutioner som vor.
I sympathize with all the people who are involved and with the institutions which have to bear up against this fanatical and savage organization which pretends to represent the interests of the Republic of Ireland but which in fact represents only a small group of crazy and fanatical people who are setting back the course of civilization and damaging the cause of Irish unity which we could support and work for in institutions such as these.
Når jeg siger dette, repræsenterer jeg ikke blot mit politiske parti Fine Gael og min gruppe, de kristelige demokrater, men det overvældende flertal af alle de mennesker, der stemmer for mig og støtter mig i grænseegnene i Irland, de mennesker, der har lidt mest under IRA's svøbe i de seneste år.
In saying this I represent not only my own political party Fine Gael and my group, the Christian Democrats, but the overwhelming majority of all the people who vote for me and support me in the border regions of Ireland, the people who have suffered most under the lash of the IRA in recent years.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er betænkning (dok.
ANDREWS (RDE). — Mr President, after Ms Mcintosh made her statement I sought the floor to reply and to support her.
A3-67/89) af Defraigne for Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Med lemmernes Immunitet om ophævelse af Mattinas parlamentariske immunitet.
DEFRAIGNE (LDR), rapporteur. — (FR) Mr President, Mr Mattina has been the subject of a request for the waiver of parliamentary immunity following a complaint which was sent to the Italian authorities by the directors of the Campania cement industry.
Nr. 3-383/5 blot har varetaget sine interesser i en politisk debat, og i denne forbindelse kan de strafferetlige påstande, der gøres gældende, i grunden kun opfattes som en misforståelse.
No 3-383/5
Vi medlemmer af Den Socialistiske Gruppe gør opmærksom på, at det politiske arbejde og de dermed forbundne erklæringer ikke må generes.
We shall be voting in favour of the rapporteur's work.
Immunitet er ikke et privilegium for parlamentsmedlemmerne.
with the abstention of one member who considered that the criteria regarding political activities needed to be clarified.
Den skal sikre, at vort arbejdes demokratiske forløb ikke generes.
LANGER (V). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen !
I Mattina-sagen drejer det sig om en politisk diskussion. Han har ytret sin mening.
We are here to decide whether Mr Mattina's parliamentary immunity should be waived or not.
Derfor tilslutter vi os ordførerens redegørelse og stemmer for betænkningen.
These allegations were subsequently published in the newspapers and it will be obvious that the company in question suffered considerably as a result.
Defraigne (LDR), ordfører. — (FR) Hr. formand, Parlamentet har fået forelagt en anmodning om ophævelse af hr. Mattinas parlamentariske immunitet som følge af en af Campanias cementindustris ledelse til de italienske myndigheder indgivet klage.
ROGALLA (S). — (DE) Mr President, any request for the waiver of immunity requires, as the Rules of Procedure also stipulate, immediate action by Parliament.
Klagen begrundes med, at hr. Mattina til en italiensk journalist har udtalt, at nævnte virksomhed i Grækenland har indkøbt cement til urealistiske priser for i unormale mængder at videresælge den i Campania, hvilket medførte konkurrenceforstyrrelser.
A request for the waiver of immunity, as is clear to all of us, including our visitors, necessarily raises the question of the role and nature of immunity, so that such a debate is crucially important.
Ved denne lejlighed erklærede hr. Campania, at det sandsynligvis drejede sig om en transaktion, der havde til formål at hvidvaske penge hidrørende fra ulovlig aktivitet, idet han udtrykkeligt henviste til mafiaen.
We need immunity to protect the members of this parliament and the democratic status of the European Parliament from external pressures.
Mcintosh (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, gruppen takker ordføreren for hans arbejde og vil stemme for betænkningen.
The committee came to the conclusion — although it was not an easy decision — that parliamentary immunity was more important. Why?
Jeg vil blot støtte hr. Rogallas bemærkninger om, at der ikke bør lægges nogen tvang på Europa-Parlamentets medlemmer under disses udøvelse af deres politiske aktivitet. Det bør være det princip, som Parlamentet følger, når det skal afgøre, hvorvidt et medlems immunitet skal ophæves eller ej.
There is a historical explanation for this. In the early stages of democracy, it was common practice for those in power to attempt to disrupt the work of the representatives of the people by accusing them of some punishable offence, thus preventing the members of parliament concerned from carrying out their functions, as they were required to answer for their alleged crime in a court of law.
Ønsker Parlamentet at afvige fra dette princip, så bør det gøres til genstand for en særskilt betænkning.
This is the historical background to the system of immunity which we should be aware does not exist in the same form in all Member States.
Hr. Mattina har til udvalget forklaret, at han blot har udtalt sig om et politisk anliggende, som for øvrigt allerede har været behandlet i Parlamentet i anden sammenhæng.
Because of the special way this House has developed and the particular way it works, we have anchored the principle of immunity in our Rules of Procedure and in the Acts on which our status is based.
Da udtalelserne således direkte indgik i hr. Mattinas politiske virke, mente udvalget ikke, at der var nogen grund til at ophæve hans parlamentariske aktivitet.
As far as Mr Mattina and the facts involved in this case are concerned, on the basis of which the request for the waiver of immunity is made, I concur, also on behalf of the Socialist Group, with the rapporteur.
Denne afgørelse vedtoges enstemmigt bortset fra et medlem, der hverken stemte for eller imod og ønskede at få præciseret kriterierne for politisk aktivitet.
He has shown that Mr Mattina was exercising his interests as a parliamentarian during a political debate and that in this connection the request for criminal proceedings can only be regarded as an aberration.
Rogalla (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, spørgsmål om ophævelse af den parlamentariske immunitet kræver i henhold i forretningsordenen uophørlig handling fra Parlamentets side.
In our eyes immunity is not a Member's personal privilege, i.e. members must not be able to act as they please with impunity, parliamentary immunity only exists to reinforce the status of parliamentarians as representatives of the people, as the holders of mandates.
Spørgsmålet om ophævelse af immuniteten er selvfølgelig for alle — også for vore besøgende — forbundet med spørgsmålet om immunitetens værdi og karakter, og derfor har en sådan forhandling stor betydning.
Immunity serves its purpose in our view when a member is accused of the classical political crimes — from lèse majesté, however this may be termed under different judicial systems, to alleged offences during demonstrations and the many activities involved in exercising a mandate, e.g. resistance to officialdom, insulting police officers and other public authorities etc., incidents that can occur in the heat of political debate.
Vi har brug for immunitet for at beskytte Europa-Parlamentets medlemmer og dets demokratiske apparats funktion mod ind greb udefra.
In our opinion, immunity serves above all to protect members from punishment and not necessarily to prevent the establish ment of the truth.
Langer (V). — (DE) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, vi skal træffe afgørelse om, hvorvidt hr. Mattinas immunitet skal ophæves eller ej.
Immunity is not a priviledge, it is there to ensure that democratic development is not placed in jeopardy.
Hr. Mattina har udtalt sig til pressen om et syditaliensk cementfirma, som han mistænker for at have forbindelse med mafiaen, idet han rent ud har sagt, at virksomheden vasker sorte penge.
As far as the particular case of Mr Mattina is concerned, it deals with a political discussion — he expressed his opinion.
Denne påstand kunne læses i aviserne, og det er forståeligt, at den pågældende virksomhed led alvorlig skade derved.
We agree with the rapporteur and intend to vote for this report.
Nu har Udvalget for Forretningsordenen, Valgs Prøvelse og Medlemmernes Immunitet indgående diskuteret, om interessen i at finde frem til sandheden i forbindelse med en sådan påstand og en sådan beskyldning skal gå forud for beskyttelsen af et medlems immunitet.
In future we would suggest that in cases where a national judiciary requests the waiver of immunity in order to arrive at the truth, then this request should be granted, but no punishment should be permitted.
Ikke uden vanskeligheder kom udvalget til det resultat, at immuniteten skal beskyt tes.
In Mr Mattina's case, there is a justifiable interest in establishing in a court of law whether this company is involved with the Mafia.
Hvorfor?
These facts must not be ignored completely.
Det er altså den historiske baggrund for immuniteten, som for øvrigt, hvilket vi også bør tage til efterretning, ikke findes i samme form i alle medlemsstater.
McINTOSH (ED). — Mr President, my group congratulates the rapporteur on his work and we shall be voting in favour of this report.
Hvad angår Mattina-sagen og de forhold, der ligger til grund for den pågældende anmodning om immunitetens ophævelse, kan jeg på Den Socialistiske Gruppes vegne tilslutte mig ordføreren.
In this specific case we feel that an illumination of the facts is called for and would almost certainly have proved Mr Mattina right.
Immunitet bør i vore øjne ikke være noget privilegium for medlemmerne, og skal altså ikke tjene til, at medlemmerne kan gøre, hvad de vil, og unddrage sig retsforfølgelse; der er kun fornuft i immuniteten som beskyttelse af parlamentsmedlemmets funktion som repræsentant for personer, for mennesker og dermed som indehaver af et mandat.
I wuld just like to support the remarks made by Mr Rogalla that there should be no constraints put on the activity of MEPs during the course of their political duties.
Immuniteten har betydning som beskyttelse mod uretfærdig og urimelig strafforfølgelse især i forbindelse med politiske lovovertrædelser.
This should be the principle that the House follows when the House considers whether or not to waive the immunity of a Member.
Vi mener, at immunitet er på sin plads, hvis et medlem beskyldes for velkendte
Should the House wish to depart from this principle then this should form the subject of a separate report.
Langer eneste gang de retlige myndigheder kræver strafferetlig forfølgelse af lovovertrædelser — især når der er tale om lovovertrædelser med politisk anstrøg — bør Parlamentet konsekvent holde sig til det, som ordføreren, hr. Defraigne, denne gang har anført som kriterium for vor afgørelse.
LANGER the benefit of individuals, must cover absolutely everything that relates directly or indirectly to the exercise of the parliamentary mandate, as well as everything that concerns political activity, particularly if there is any question of a fumus persecutionis — that is to say, an attempt to restrict the exercise of the political life of a member of our Parliament.
Efter vor mening bør immuniteten frem for alt tjene til at beskytte medlemmerne mod straf, men ikke nødvendigvis til at forhindre opklaring af faktiske forhold.
His remarks were not simply expressing an opinion, they contain serious accusations against a company and were not made in the course of a parliamentary debate.
Det er i denne ånd, at vi giver Defraigne-betænkningen vor tilslutning.
Why have we nevertheless accepted the request to uphold Mr Mattina's immunity?
I så henseende synes vi, at det vil være mere positivt, fremover måske at efterkomme et lands retsvæsens ønske om ophævelse af immuniteten for at opklare faktiske forhold, men ikke for at muliggøre straf.
Simply because we believe that protecting a member's right to exercise his mandate is of such importance that even in this case which is very borderline, a member's immunity should be protected.
For at komme tilbage til Mattina-sagen, så foreligger der berettiget interesse i at lade retten opklare, om cementvirksomheden virkelig har urent mel i posen, om der faktisk er tale om et mafiafirma eller ej, og den interesse må vi ikke helt tabe af syne.
We are not only voting in favour, we even asked for a roll-call vote in the committee to make it clear what we are protecting.
Vecchi (GUE). — (IT) Hr. formand, jeg vil frem for alt på Gruppen for Den Samlede Europæiske Ven strefløjs vegne give udtryk for vor tilslutning til hr. Defraignes betænkning om ophævelse af hr. Mattinas parlamentariske immunitet.
In particular we think that requests for waiver of immunity that relate to socalled crimes of opinion must be rejected, whereas, when it is a question of alleged crimes of a particularly serious nature that endanger third parties or are not related to the normal exercise of political and parliamentary life, it is our opinion that, generally speaking, Parliament ought not to oppose the normal process of justice.
Det er faktisk vor mening, at vi står over for et tilfælde, der fuldt og helt falder ind under det område, der er beskyttet ved den europæiske parlamentariske immunitet.
At all events it is our hope that, in the near future, it will be possible to arrive at a legal system that will make the value of European parliamentary immunity the same for all Member States, and that will determine with certainty the internal rules of this Parliament.