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Hvis det er i orden, at landmændene iværksætter en braklægningsordning, fordi de producerer for meget, er det også i orden, at Fællesskabet sørger for de fiskere, som gennem foranstaltninger for deres område bliver bedt om at beskytte hele Fællesskabets fremtid, og så selv bære byrderne i forbindelse hermed.
To add my voice to those of the previous questioners, will the Commission provide financial compensation, bearing in mind that compensation was paid to Spanish and Portuguese fishermen when Morocco closed its waters to EEC fishermen during the negotiation of the Morocco-EEC fisheries agreement?
Vi kan ikke bede dem om at bære byrderne selv.
We are asking for this as an absolute necessity.
Jeg er virkelig meget taknemmelig over hr. Cheyssons tilstedeværelse, men tror kommissæren ikke, at Kommissionen har sat megen politisk troværdighed over styr — måske hele sin troværdighed — ved ikke i dag at have sendt den kommissær, der er ansvarlig for dette område?
Does the Commissioner not agree with me that reducing fleet capacity is going to be the key to restoring the balance between the resource and the catching capacity?
Var det ikke nødvendigt, at han var til stede, selv om han bliver udskiftet først i januar måned?
This is going to be the necessity, and the Commissioner must come for ward with some solutions there.
Fraga Iribarne (ED). — (ES) Jeg kommer fra en egn.
Will the Commission contribute towards a decommissioning scheme?
Galicien, som er blandt de værst ramte af denne situation, og fra en medlemsstat, Spanien, som stemte imod denne beslutning i Rådet, og som i særdeleshed repræsenterer halvdelen af Fællesskabets fiskerflåde.
Will the Commission investigate the Icelandic imports situation to see whether they are in compliance with the trade rules and state what action it is proposing to take to prevent Icelandic imports from flooding the Community?
Jeg er af den opfattelse, at dette emne fortjener en forhandling af mere vidtrækkende betydning en dag, som ikke er en fredag, og i overværelse af fiskeri kommissæren, om end jeg er hr. Cheysson taknemmelig for hans tilstedeværelse.
The severe, indeed the savage, quota cuts this year prove the need to consider how the Community must strengthen the present quota system.
På dette sene tids punkt i forhandlingen vil jeg spørge: Er Kommissionen klar over, at bevarelsesforanstaltningerne også bør omhandle en af de mest truede arter i nutidens Europa, selve fiskeren, fiskeindustrien?
Perhaps a solution would be through grouping quotas together, through setting quotas for a longer period of time and through considering new ways of managing fisheries through improving conservation measures. I only have one...
Cheysson, medlem af Kommissionen. — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil først gerne udtrykke min for bavselse over den hurtige afstemning, der fandt sted for lidt siden her i Parlamentet, hvor man stemte imod en forhandling om fiskeriproblemerne.
PRESIDENT. — Mr Provan, the Rules stipulate that Members must put short and precise questions. You have been speaking for 2 'h minutes.
Jeg er nemlig overbevist om, og alt, hvad jeg har hørt, bekræfter mig i denne overbevisning, at der skal en forhandling til, en omhyggeligt forberedt forhandling, til hvilken Kommissionen skal sende den direkte ansvarlige kommissær.
We do not know who the new Commissioner for Fish eries is to be so whatever the Commissioner says today, will he promise that he will do his best to pass on his concern to the new Fisheries Commissioner?
Og jeg vil mene, at det skal være den kommissær, der fremover får ansvaret for området, og ikke en kommissær, som havde et helt andet ansvarsområde i den nuværende Kommission, og som under alle omstændigheder ikke kommer til at sidde i den næste.
We have been told that there is possibly to be a revision halfway through the year. Could we have the Commissioner's assurance that that revision will be upwards and that no way could that revision impose further cuts?
Jeg mener, en sådan forhandling er nødvendig.
I am asking him to accept that it is a disaster.
Jeg ved ikke, om det er i overensstemmelse med Parlamentets Forret-
I look forward to the Com missioner's answers with hope and optimism.
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ARIAS CAÑETE (ED). — (ES) I should like to put three direct questions to the Commission.
Cheysson ningsorden at anbefale den, men Kommissionen ville gerne se den anbefalet, hvis det er muligt.
Arias Cañete from countries which are not members of NAFO keep on expanding their fishing activities in such waters whilst the Commission quotes reasons for conservation. tion.
At vi tillægger fiskeriets problemer stor betydning, kan der overhovedet ikke være tvivl om.
the incompatibility with ships for other fishing such as for example the tuna caught by the small-scale fishing fleet, which amounts to 60% of the income of fishermen in the region of the Bay of Biscay and the north west of Spain.
Det er grunden til, at min kollega, hr. Cardoso e Cunha, ikke kunne være til stede i dag, for som bekendt finder der for øjeblikket et møde sted i Belgien med kommissærerne i den næste Kommission, under Jacques Delors' ledelse.
However, the regulation authorizing French boats to fish in Spanish waters allows inshore boats of 50 tonnes and long-liners of less than 100 tonnes to fish for all species, although there is no reciprocity for other States.
Og det forholder sig nemlig sådan, at kommissæren med ansvar for fiskerispørgsmål er blandt de heldige deltagere i dette møde. Derfor kunne han ikke være til stede her i dag.
And if there are reasons for conservation as the Com missioner has said, what pressure does the Commission envisage applying to prevent other fleets expand ing their activities in this zone, since otherwise stocks in these waters will never recover?
Men det lå ham meget på sinde, at dette referat af mødet i Rådet af fiskeriministre blev givet i Parlamentet.
Does the Commission not think that the restrictions should be counterbalanced by positive measures including particularly necessary measures to break the deadlock in negotiations for a fishing agreement with Canada to give the Community fleet opportunities for catches in those sectors which are subject to restrictions this year?
Dette skyldtes i høj grad de dårlige fiskevaner, og i særdeleshed fremmede fiskerflåders dårlige vaner med at trawle i sildens gydeområder.
Does it not think that the agreement is detrimental to certain types of fishing as compared with others and above all to the future of fishing itself and the annual renewal of stocks?
Og Det For enede Kongerige foreslog så, at Fællesskabets med lemsstater skulle samarbejde for at kunne tale med størst mulig vægt og for at kunne begrænse de aktiviteter, der truede en yderst vigtig fiskebestand.
And finally, how does the Commission interpret the Council's statement to take account of scientific studies aimed at increasing TACs in future as a function of fishery trends? Why, if these studies are positive, have they not been increased?
Så vidt jeg husker, var sildebestanden faldet til 10% af, hvad den havde været fem år tidligere.
Does the Commission see any possibility in the short term of increasing them?
Men vi ønskede at informere Parlamentet. Det var formålet med Kommissionens redegørelse; den skal understrege, hvor stor en betydning vi tillægger disse problemer.
The Commission's statement adds nothing — though that does not reflect upon the intellectual and political stature of the member delivering it, who is not a specialist in fisheries — because it could not have included so many generalities in less time or explained so little in so many words.
Denne betydning er også kommet til udtryk på andre måder.
You know a lot about that subject, Mr Commissioner.
Det er af grundlæggende betydning. Flere talere har sagt. at antallet af fiskere er faldende. Det er korrekt.
I have a series of specific questions.
Men der ville være endnu færre, hvis der ikke blev ført en bevarelsespolitik. Desuden må en bevarelsespolitik nødvendigvis afpasses efter de videnskabelige iagttagelser, der gøres.
Moreover it seems that scientific recommendations would allow the TAC to be main tained — exactly contrary to what you said, Mr Com missioner — at least at the same level as in 1988.
Det var det, der skete.
What scientific reasons are there?
Jeg har antydet, hvilke arter det drejer sig om, og undertiden hvilke områder, der for visse arters vedkommende må fiskes mindre i.
Have the Commission and the Council taken the provisions of the Act of Accession into account?
Jeg hørte for lidt siden en af de ærede melemmer sige, at vi ikke forekom særligt opmærksomme på, at Spanien og Portugal nu er medlemmer af Fælles skabet.
The information available to us indicates that quotas for fishing in Svalbard have been reduced by roughly 50%.
Jeg vil gerne have lov til at sige, at de anstrengelser, der blev gjort under forhandlingerne med Marokko — meget vanskelige og undertiden besværlige forhandlinger — for at det, der for øjeblikket udgør størstedelen af den spanske fisker flåde, kunne fortsætte sit fiskeri — hvis jeg ikke tager fejl, er der flere spanske fiskefartøjer i de marokkanske farvande end i Fællesskabets farvande, det være sig spanske eller fra andre EF-lande — viser, at Fællesskabet kender sin pligt over for de spanske fiskere.
In fairness we do not find the Community making such a drastic reduction, when the scientific studies carried out — for example by the Institute of Fisheries Research — conclude that the fishing grounds can stand the quotas allotted this year without endangering stocks.
Men vi tænker ikke blot på de spanske fiskere.
On this point your scientific information differs from mine.
Vi ved, at fiskeriet er en vigtig del af samfundslivet i de forskellige lande i Fællesskabet.
What sources did the Commission use, from the scientific point of view, to arrive at the conclusion announced by the Commissioner?
Vi ved, at det er et område, hvor markedet hele tiden er i udvikling, og hvor det følgelig drejer sig om at få det bedste ud af fiskeressourcerne, af vore udmærkede besætninger og udstyr.
I should like to repeat that my sources are Spanish ones and in this sphere may be compared with the best.
Fællesskabet går helt og fuldt ind i denne opgave. Det betyder også, at Fællesskabet må påtage sig et ansvar for at bevare fiskebestandene.
It is clear that the great loser from this action is the Kingdom of Spain in spite of the fact that we hear that the law entitles us to fish in these fishing-grounds in pursuance of the Treaty of Paris of 9 February 1920.
Inden for andre områder har det derimod været muligt at hæve de samlede tilladte fangstmængder; jeg har allerede omtalt sild, men der er også brisling, sej og lubbe; i andre er fangstmængden uændret.
In the southern zone there has similarly been an inexplicable reduction of 20% in the hake quota.
Da den videnskabelige rapport om ansjoser, som en taler omtalte, ikke var fuldstændig entydig, har vi fastholdt den samlede tilladte fangstmængde på det nuværende niveau.
On the other hand for anchovy the same TAC as in 1988 is proposed without any scientific basis.
Bevarelsespolitikken afpasses efter de iagttagelser, der gøres over fiskebestandene.
That is, 14 000 tonnes, and this cannot be justified on grounds of con servation because there is no scientific paper on this question.
Jeg vil gerne have lov til, hr. formand, især over for de medlemmer, som for nogle år siden endnu ikke var medlemmer af Parlamentet, at opridse en udvikling som for nogle forekom overraskende dengang.
For all these reasons we should like to know what were the technical, scientific and economic criteria used by the Commission in proposing such a drastic and unfair reduction as that agreed some days ago in the Fisheries Council.
Oprindelig hørte Rom-Traktatens beføjelser op ved strandene.
Have you any idea what the economic and social impact of the decision adopted will be?
Farvandene, fiskeområderne i særdeles hed, var ikke omfattet af Traktaten.
What compensatory measures are you think ing of proposing to prevent the spread of poverty in that sector?
Det var på Det Forenede Kongeriges anmodning, at der skete en
I put these questions to the Commissioner confident that he can answer them since the Council
Cheysson fiske i vore farvande, ikke fordi vi holder specielt meget at det flag, de fører, men fordi det er en betingelse for at kunne få lov til at fiske i deres farvande.
Will they therefore look very hard at a system of com pensation for people who are in difficulties over the next few months as a result of what has happened?
Når det ikke er lykkedes os at nå frem til en aftale med canadierne på nuværende tidspunkt, skyldes det, at vi ikke kan nå til enighed om bestemmelserne om gensidighed.
Secondly, in the long term and referring again to my point about conservation, I find myself absolutely amazed that the fishing industry seems to exist in this hunger or burst situation.
Jeg er derfor glad for, at aftalerne med Norge, Færøerne og Grønland har kunnet udbygges, undertiden med en udvidelse af vore fiskerettigheder i deres farvande.
Will it not look at this scientific advice to see whether or not it can be refined in future so that these gross fluctuations in quota, which under mine conservation on the one hand and cause human hardship on the other, do not happen in future?
opmærksomhed på den.
HUTTON (ED). — I would like to echo what my colleague, Mr Provan, said.
Hvad det angår, er Kommissionens løfte højtideligt, og det har selvfølgelig gyldighed for alle kommende Kommissioner.
Fishermen on both sides of my constituency in the south of Scotland are facing a pretty bleak year in 1989.
Men jeg understreger også, at det ikke er rigtigt at svare i så generelle vendinger på præcise spørgsmål, der omhandler mennesker, flåder og store investeringer; der bør gives præcise svar.
In view of that, I would like the Commissioner to give the House an assurance that the Commission will look extremely carefully at the scientific evidence in its midterm review in June next year and, if there is any likelihood of easing the quotas as they have done in recent years with herring and cod stocks, that this will be done.
Hr. formand, endnu engang foreslår Kommissionen, at der hurtigst muligt træffes beslutning om en egentlig forhandling om fiskeriproblemerne.
SELIGMAN (ED). — Small inshore fishing boats under 10 metres in length on the south coast of England are very much handicapped by being restricted to only a small area, so they cannot go out looking for fish.
Alle disse foranstaltninger er meget detaljerede og præcise, og det samme gælder den kompensation eller støtte til omskoling og omlægning, som Fælles skabet må yde besætningerne og flåderne, når det er nødvendigt at iværksætte noget sådant.
Would the Commissioner agree that the latest figures suggest that there is an urgent need to re-examine our methods to control discards including mesh sizes and mesh configurations?
Det kan f.eks. dreje sig om omlægning, når vi efter forhandlinger opnår nye fiskerettigheder i farvande tilhørende tredjelande — jeg tænker her specielt på landene i den tredje verden — hvilket åbner nye muligheder for fiskerflåderne, ofte efter omlægning, eller det kan dreje sig om kompensation : en af talerne mindede om, at de spanske og portugisiske fiskerflåder havde fået kompensation i de uger, hvor de var forment adgang til at fiske i de marokkanske farvande.
Fishermen who are already fish ing with 90 mm diamond mesh nets tell me that they are catching too many undersized haddock still and all of those have to be thrown away. Would the Commissioner undertake to pass on to his new colleagues a request that the Commission should sponsor work on new and effective controlling methods, including the effectiveness of square mesh nets and, in particular, how these nets can be effectively and easily repaired?
Er det ifølge Forretningsordenen muligt at træffe beslutning om, at Parlamentet under den næste plenarforsamling, hvor der skal forhandles om fiskerispørgsmål, tager sig af denne konkrete sag?
Is that a restriction on compensation? I do not expect that the Commission will pay all this money to local fishermen in compensation, but the Member States should be obliged to do so.
Formanden. — Hr. kollega, hvis De havde ventet bare et sekund længere med at bede om ordet, ville De have erfaret, at Det Udvidede Præsidium for mødeperioden i januar har sat fem fiskeribetænkninger på dagsordenen til forhandling under ét, således at vi kan få omfattende oplysninger fra Kommissionen og få en dialog i gang.
Finally, the Commissioner will be aware of the ease with which many fishing vessels change their flags in the Community — almost, it seems, on a whim. Does the Commissioner believe that the Commission should now assume some responsibility for controlling what seems like a capricious use of the freedom of establish ment in the Community?
Det er ikke helt på sin plads at tale om alt dette i så generelle vendinger, som jeg gør.
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Men jeg er — som De ved — ikke i stand til at tale derom så præcist, som parlamentsmedlemmerne netop ønsker det.
COLLINS (S). — I think I am the only speaker so far in this session that not only does not have a coastline but has no fishing boats at all in his area.
Han ved måske heller ikke selv endnu, at han er den nye kommissær.
So I can speak with some degree of disinterestedness, although certainly not lack of interest.
Provan (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, tak for den erklæring om januarmødeperioden og om den fiske riforhandling, som vil finde sted.
STAVROU (PPE). — (GR) I believe most of the questions I had wanted to ask the Commissioner have already been put by previous speakers.
Jeg vil gerne have lov til at foreslå mine kolleger, da dette sikkert er den sidste lejlighed hertil før juleferien, at det måske ville være en god ide, om alle politiske grupper gik sammen om at stille en mundtlig forespørgsel, som så kunne behandles i forbindelse med den forhandling, idet vi derved kunne udvide emnet med henblik på at tage fat i det konkrete.
I would, then, ask the Commissioner whether he intends to inform his new colleague who will be taking over fisheries about the report and the proposals of the European Parliament regarding the convening as soon as possible of a conference of Mediterranean countries with a view to finding a modus vivendi for fishing in the Mediterranean Sea.
Det er korrekt, at der så vil være mulighed for at skifte flag.
We now have a disaster on our hands.
Det er ubehageligt, men det er en af følgerne af dette store, indre marked, som vi ellers er så stolte af.
Listening to the speeches that we have had already, it is very clear that in the coming months there will be a good many people in fishing communities in my own country and elsewhere, who will be experiencing con siderable financial hardship.
Formanden. — Repræsentanterne for de enkelte grupper har hørt Deres ide.
I therefore want to ask two very simple questions.
Det tilkommer ikke mig at give de politiske grupper anvisninger for deres arbejde, men man vil sikkert tage Deres ide til sig, hr. Provan.
First of all, will the Commission — and I add my voice to the appeals that have already been made — accept that hardship may indeed result in fishing communities?
Lad os vende tilbage til selve fiskeriet. Jeg kan forsikre Parlamentet om, at denne erklæring vil blive omhyggeligt videregivet til den kommende kommissær.
MARTIN, David (S). — Speaking as I am towards the end of the debate, most of the questions I intended to ask have, in fact, been asked.
Den kommer for øvrigt til at stå i EF-Tidende, og jeg skal selv sørge for at henlede kommissærens
I would just like to make it clear to the Commissioner that many of us support the conservation measures that the Community is now engaged upon.
Formanden mentsmedlem at deltage i møderne eller ikke. Det ville naturligvis være bedre, om alle var til stede.
we have reached the position, as one of my colleagues "said earlier, where we are almost at a political crisis in the industry.
Det var sidste gang, De talte i Deres egenskab af kommissær.
ROBLES PIQUER (ED). — (ES) My question is very brief.
Jeg takker Dem for samarbejdet, og jeg ønsker Dem alt godt fremover.
And when I say this, I mean, of course, the Commissioner who will be following up this sector for some years to come, not someone who held another portfolio in the present Commission and who won't even be in the line-up at all in the next Commission. I believe that a debate is essential.
Coimbra Martins (S). — (PT) Hr. formand, jeg må henlede Deres opmærksomhed på et forhold, som jeg finder mærkværdigt.
McMILLAN-SCOTT (ED). — I think the House recognizes that the Commissioner who is answering this debate this morning is not in the best position to answer some of our questions and it is also quite clear that there is a demand for a debate at another date.
For så vidt angår protokollen, ved De selv, at den vil blive udfærdiget og afsendt så hurtigt som muligt.
Nobody should have the slightest doubt about the importance that we in the Commission attach to the problems of fisheries.
Vore medarbejdere arbejder nat og dag i hele mødeugen.
As you know, Jacques Delors is chairing a meeting right now in Belgium of the Members of the next Commission.
Det er en fantastisk præstation — vil jeg ved denne lejlighed udtrykkeligt understrege — at vi selv ved aftenmøder allerede næste formiddag har den relevante protokol liggende foran os.
We could have taken the line that since these decisions had been taken only a few days ago we did not have to tell Parliament about them, all the more so in that Friday is not the best day for holding a debate worthy of the name and also in that we have a Commission that is about to take its departure. But we felt obliged to
Alligevel vil jeg, foranlediget af Deres bemærkning, opfordre Det Udidede Præsidium til på ny at se på sagen ').
It seems to me quite clear from the debate this morning and from the debate that is raging throughout the fishing industry in the Community that
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Con servation policy must be in line with the findings on stock levels.
Jeg vil gerne ønske Dem alle en god jul og et godt nytår.
It is obvious then that clearly defined measures must be taken.
Det gælder naturligvis også alle dem, der arbejder for os her i salen eller et andet sted i huset.
In the matter of fishing methods, what I have in mind is to tighten up restrictions on mesh sizes and on fishing for sea bass.
Jeg håber, at De alle kan hvile en smule ud efter dette hektiske års strabadser, således at vi til januar med fornyede kræfter kan gå i gang med sidste fase af vor valgperiode.
This was largely due to reprehensible fishing practices by foreign fleets, and in particular bad trawling practices in the herring spawning areas.
I denne tid har Parlamentet et problem, nemlig behandlingen af alle de betænkniger, der har hobet sig op.
However, as you know very well, I am not in a position to speak of them in as much detail as the Members of this House would rightly wish for.
Mange er imod, at de betænkninger, som de finder mest interessante, bliver behandlet om fredagen; men så sent som i går blev det i Det Udvidede Præsidium sagt, at fredag er en ugedag som alle andre, og at de vigtige betænkninger udmærket kan behandles om fredagen.
That is why there has to be a debate that will be thoroughly prepared at com mittee level but be held here on the political plane. It will be as careful and as detailed as anyone could wish for, and the new Fisheries Commissioner, whose name I do not know — perhaps he does not know it himself as yet — will take part.
Alligevel står jeg her, hr. formand, med den portugisiske udgave af » EP-ugen« for denne mødeperiode, som formanden nu skal til at erklære for afsluttet, og denne tekst, der omfatter hele mødeperioden, blev redigeret torsdag og uddelt fredag morgen.
Might I just suggest to colleagues, as this might be the last opportunity before the Christmas vacation, that it might be an idea for all the political groups to get together to table an oral question that could be taken along with that debate so that we could extend the issue in order to address ourselves to the specifics.