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Især ved at frigøre dem for statslige forpligtelser og kontrol fra bankernes side, da disse har tilbøjelighed til at gennemtvinge finansielle synspunkter, og ved i stedse højere grad at inddrage publikum og personale i virksomhedernes ledelse.
Do you not think there are some areas in which it is essential for all Europeans to have access to certain assets, so that public intervention is justified even if it means that, in some instances, these sacrosanct principles of free competition and market forces have to go by the board?
Og sådan er det i mange tilfælde stadig.
In a word, they have to attack freedom itself.
Jeg er af den opfattelse, at der på de områder, hvor det virkelig kan indbringe noget, hvor der er tale om store beløb, bør gennemføres EF-omspændende licitationer.
Since everything has to be submitted to the laws of competition and privatization — the law of the jungle as practised by the Americans and Japanese, who will be moving in on this market — public services have to be privatized and opened up to competition.
ERNST DE LA GRAETE (V). — (FR) Hr. formand, hvad de offentlige virksomheder angår, vil jeg gerne stille Kommissionen et meget direkte spørgsmål: »Hvor længe agter Kommissionen at fortsætte med at tro, at selvmord er den bedste redning for europæisk økonomi?«
In transport, energy supply, housing, education, health and even communications, room has to be made for the concept of equality, of access for all European citizens.
ELMALAN (CG). — (FR) Hr. formand, den i forbindelse med det indre marked under påskud af fremme af Maastricht-Traktatens gennemførelse iværksatte liberaliserings- og dereguleringsproces fører til, at de offentlige virksomheder drages i tvivl.
If we do not adopt this key concept of public service as the basis of European policy in these areas, I fear that we shall be heading for distortions, for a society in which some citizens will be excluded from these vital services.
Elektricitets- og gasværksarbejdernes samlede strejke, der førte til den europæiske jernbanearbejderstrejke, var en advarsel om den trussel, som markedernes åbning og den frie konkurrence udgør for disse virksomheder.
So, to come back to my first question, what is the general interest and what exceptions need to be made to the dogma of free competition and market forces in order to regulate the market in the interests of public service?
Vi giver De Forenede Stater garanti for vor gode vilje ved at åbne vort landbrugsmarked.
It is therefore an activity stemming from sovereign prerogatives, at the heart of the state, and is outside the range of competition.
Og hvad får vi til gengæld for dette udtryk for god vilje?
It includes street lighting and cleaning, transport, the supply of water, gas and electricity.
Lukning af de europæiske stålmarkeder.
Public service is an altogether different jurisdiction!
Nej. mine herrer kommissærer, den frie konkurrences dogme og markedskræfternes frie spil afhjælper ikke alle vor økonomis onder.
Besides, the very principles of public service are exclusive of the standards of commerce and competition.
Det er ikke ved at liberalisere og nedlægge alle offentlige virksomheder i Europa, at man kommer til en løsning.
The second question I wish to ask you, Commissioner, is this: to what extent can a public service be made to adopt certain operating principles applied in private enterprise?
Hvis det offentlige forsvinder fra alle disse vigtige områder, hvem skal så træde i dets sted?
I do not deny that public enterprises need to apply certain mechanisms to maintain efficiency and quality of service.
Multinationale selskaber?
But making sure that this is done does not necessary entail privatization.
Hvad sker der da?
You are going to tell me that this is contradictory to what I was just saying.
Det bliver rentabilitet og profit, der erstatter begrebet »det offentlige«.
Far from it, not when pricing policy is determined according to the general interest!
Dette dereguleringspres, der har til formål at indføre konkurrence på alle områder, ledsages af en offensiv for at bryde det offentliges monopoler og dermed overdrage de mest rentable virksomheder til det private erhvervsliv.
We are calling for a graduated scale of charges, rising in line with consumption, so that the burden of environmental costs will be borne by large industrial consumers.
Gas- og elektricitsværksarbejdernes fælles strejke, som vi har fortalt om i Europa-Parlamentet, har indtil videre gjort det muligt at standse Bruxelles's planer.
Continuity of public service is contradictory to the idea, for instance, of bankruptcy, which has its place in the competitive world, in the private sector, in company law.
Det er en opmuntring til at fortsætte aktionerne til forsvar og fremme af det offentliges virksomheder.
Free access, and in some cases absence of charges, is not based on prices but on rates, which is a different legal concept.
Bruxelles's angreb i form af direktiver og sagsanlæg for tilsidesættelse af den frie konkurrence er ganske utilstedelige, da virksomhedernes juridiske form, uanset om de er offent lige eller private, fortsat udelukkende sorterer under medlemsstaterne.
Otherwise, personal freedom would be destroyed. Consequently, the idea of competition is philosophically and anthologically contradictory to the idea of the state, which is the monopoly of organized power in the service of order.
Det er for øvrigt i overensstemmelse med subsidiaritetsprincippet.
That is what public service is, it is monopoly working to maintain order.
Fastholder vi ikke dette essentielle begreb om offentlige tjenester som grundlag for en europæisk politik på disse områder, er jeg bange for, at vi går i retning af forvridninger, mod et samfund, hvor nogle borgere ude lukkes fra disse vitale funktioner.
This unbridled liberalism has already taken its toll, as we have seen in the steel industry, coal mining, farming, aviation (where it is called deregulation), the motor industry (with assistance from Japan), and so on.
Det er altså mit første spørgsmål.
The results are there for all to see.
Hvad er den almindelige interesse, og hvilke forvridninger skal der gøres på det famøse dogme om fri konkurrence og markedskræfternes frie spil for at regulere markedet ud fra ønsket om offentlig tjeneste?
We thought we had seen the peak of the illness, the addiction, afflicting Mr Delors and his acolytes with the Single Act, the Maastricht Treaty, the single currency and central banks becoming indepen
Tværtimod.
In fact, what is the aim?
Det er en social og økonomisk indsats, men også en vigtig indsats på det industrielle og tekniske område.
In reality, it is an old Marxist theory which ought to be well known to the Socialist Mr Delors.
Det andet spørgsmål, som jeg vil stille Dem, hr. kommissær, er: »Når man har en offentlig sektor, i hvilket omfang kan man da integrere en række af den private virksomheds driftsprincipper deri?
When returns on capital diminish, big business looks to appropriate the last remaining profitable sectors.
På dette punkt benægter jeg ikke, at der i offentlige bedrifter skal tages hensyn til en række faktorer, som sikrer effektiviteten og præstationens kvalitet.
Taxpayers have funded the major structural capital investment programmes of the postal, transport and electricity services, but the income from these services is supposed to fall into the hands of big business!
Men for at få respekteret disse principper er det ikke absolut nødvendigt at gå direkte over til privatisering. Man kan udmærket mene, at også det
And it is not even European business, since, in contrast to Bill Clinton's America, Brussels is prepared, in the telecom munications market for instance, to allow American firms to bid, whereas Alcatel and Siemens cannot bid in
ERNST DE LA GRAETE den offentlige tjenestes principper retlige anliggender og konkurrence.
Nortem-Telecom is allowed to bid. This an absolutely crucial issue, since whereas competition is appropriate in certain public services, those which are basically industrial or commercial, it is absolutely out of the question in administrative public services, where personal freedom itself is at stake!
offentlige i sine bedrifter, hvor det har beslutningsmyndigheden, kan få overholdt en række spilleregler om effektivitet, om præstationernes kvalitet og også om — og dermed slutter jeg, hr. formand — internalisering af omkostningerne.
tions in the shape of the market — here I am alluding to competition — could make it necessary to redefine the scope of the proposed services.
Det er nemlig meget vigtigt at sørge for, at de sociale omkostninger og miljøudgifterne integreres i prisen — hvilket hidtil ikke altid har været tilfældet. De vil så sige, at det er i strid med det Jeg sagde før.
This calls for periodic assessments of the situation and condition of the supply of public services, on the basis of precise time-scales, in order to offer more secure investment prospects in both the public and the private sector.
Det er derfor, at De Grønne i Europa-Parlamentet i det fremsatte beslutningsforslag går ind for, at det især inden for energiforsyningen ikke altid er de små, det skal gå ud over.
VANNI d'ARCHIRAFI, Member of the Commission. — (IT) Mr President, as a member of the institution working with President Delors, I do not really feel like an acolyte.
Hvad er det for nogle principper, som hr. Delors — til trods for den aftenskoleuddannelse, der har givet ham mulighed for at få en stilling, som han næppe fortjener — ikke kender til? Det er den offentlige tjenestes kontinuitet, den frie adgang til den offentlige tjeneste, brugernes ligestilling.
The Commission has already applied these principles in a number of separate communications — on energy and post and telecommunications in particular — and is aware that in the context of the single market the search for a just balance between harmonization and liberalization in order to ensure respect for public services and equal access to them — i.e. no citizen may be excluded from them — implies political decisions that call in question the established balances.
Den offentlige tjenestes kontinuitet er f.eks. i strid med tanken om konkurs, der findes på konkurrenceområdet, inden for det private erhvervsliv og i sel skabsretten.
So we need further work, wider consultation of all concerned — consumers, operators, unions — before moving on to possible legislative proposals.
Dvs. at vand, belysning, rengøring, opvarmning og friheden til at gå og komme ikke kan overlades til nogle store multinationale koncerners forgodtbefindende.
I think that it would be useful at this point to describe to Parliament the approach taken by the Commission, and the line it intends to take, in the context of the single market.
Så vil nemlig menneskenes frihed blive udryddet. Følgelig er konkurrencetanken filosofisk og antologisk i strid med statstanken, som er den organiserede magts monopol i ordenens tjeneste.
The provision by the state of services in such delicate sectors — energy, transport, post and telecom munications — responds to the requirements that the economists call the collapse of the market.
Det er det, man forstår ved offentlig tjeneste, »monopolet« i ordenens tjeneste. Det er i strid med konkurrencetanken.
Without the intervention of the public authorities, these services would be supplied at a level below what is socially desirable.
Skatteyderne har bidraget til de store strukturinvesteringer i postvæsen, transport og elektricitetsforsyning, og så skulle udbyttet fra disse store virksomheder falde i hænderne på store selskaber!
These service guarantees also call for a definition of the proposed services.
Selskaber som end ikke er europæiske, idet Bruxelles-direktivet til forskel fra Bill Clintons Amerika tillader, at de amerikanske firmaer kan afgive tilbud på f.eks. telekommunikationsmarkedet, medens Siemens og Alcatel ikke kan afgive tilbud i De Forenede Stater. Northem Telecom kan gøre det.
In conclusion let me say that with the advent of the single market this question now concerns both public and private undertakings and the very balance between the free market and competition, and it also closely concerns the citizen who is the beneficiary and final object of the whole system.
I realiteten er dette et essentielt spørgsmål, for medens visse offentlige industri- eller handelsvirksomheder kan falde ind under konkurrencen, kan den offentlige forvaltnings tjenester, der er forudsætningen for menneskenes frihed, ikke underkastes konkurrencen!
It is in this context and with this in mind that the Commission will continue its activities, on the basis of a constant dialogue with Parliament.
Man troede at sygdommen — den forgiftning, hr. Delors og hans følgesvende lider af— havde kulmineret med Den Fælles Akt, med Maastricht-Traktaten, den fælles mønt og de uafhængige centralbanker. Man troede kulminationen var nået.
However we must admit that at present, in Europe, we do not have a common concept of public services, which makes it difficult to find a common definition.
VANNI d'ARCHIRAFI, medlem af Kommissionen. — (IT) hr. formand, som medlem af det kommissærkollegium, som samarbejder med formanden, hr. Jacques Delors, føler jeg mig på ingen måde som en følgesvend.
PRESIDENT. — I have received four motions for resolutions with a request for an early vote to wind up the debate. (')
For at sige det rent ud, de skal absolut angribe menneskenes frihed.
The vote on the request for an early vote will take place at the end of the debate.
Det vil sige, at hvis de offentlige myndigheder ikke træder til, vil disse tjenesteydelser blive udbudt på et lavere niveau end det socialt optimale.
If it is indeed true that the objective of building Europe is to improve the lives of its people, in addition to its undertakings, it must be stated quite clearly that the public services form a fundamental component of that objective, while also reflecting the level of development of every community.
Og det er dette begreb, som har præget alle indlæg i aften.
They cannot be considered in the same way as other goods and services, and I think that is important.
Jeg vil gerne minde alle disse mennesker, isærhr.
One principle that must certainly apply is proportionality.
Delors, der ikke nåede at studere jura — kedeligt nok er han ikke til stede, men hans kolleger kan fortælle ham om den lektie en professor i jura giver ham — om at begrebet offentlig virksomhed er opfundet af franske teoretikere, især dem der i Frankrig betegnes »Bordeaux-skolen«.
Where there are restrictions to the free market, in the form of special and exclusive rights to supply public services, concentrated attempts must be made to achieve these objectives.
Den offentlige virksomhed er et aspekt af ordenspolitiet.
Once this has been guaranteed, there must be freedom of choice.
Den har til formål forebyggende at sørge for god orden.
So far all this has reverted back to the national market.
Altså er det en ordensaktivitet, en kongelig virksomhed, uden for konkurrence, i statens hjerte.
With the advent of 1993 and the gradual integration of Member States' economies, the single market will become the new point of reference.
Det er en anden jurisdiktion, den offentlige tjeneste!
Thirdly there is the question of economic and social cohesion.
For øvrigt udelukker selve
The existing divergences in the public services could make it more difficult to achieve this objective.
Offentlige tiltag i form af direkte medvirken har til formål at sikre, at der ydes service på disse områder på et godt niveau og på hele territoriet, nationalt og i Europa.
I am very sorry that the motion for a resolution tabled by the EPP group merely calls on the Commission to pursue its policy of opening up the market and liberalization in the public services sector.
God kvalitet til priser, som er overkommelige for alle brugere, og prismæssig udligning.
The Commission's political approach can be summarized as a search for the necessary balance between harmonization and liberalization.
Denne servicesikring hænger også sammen med definitionen af »reserverede tjeneste ydelser«.
We must look at technological developments in a dynamic way. Research or the varia
Tyskland, Italien og Spanien, bør modtages med virkelig stor interesse.
If in the 19th century the railways made possible industrialization and in the 20th century the car enabled progress to be made, then in the 21st century, it will be telecommunications.
Vi må derfor konstatere, at vi i Europa i dag ikke har en fælles opfattelse af offentlige ydelser, hvilket gør en fælles definition usikker.
Mrs Ernst de la Graete, it is not right to say that wherever state monopolies operate, particular account is taken of the general good and wherever competition is opened up, the focus is on the profits of the multinationals.
Kommissionens angrebsvinkel tager konsekvensen af disse forudsætninger og tager højde for, at det er nødvendigt at sikre og udvide servicen på gode økonomiske og finansielle vilkår, således at alle brugere har adgang til den.
The opposite is true, and we can see this in relation to telecommunications, particularly in those countries in which there has been a complete opening-up of the market in telecommunications. tions.
Jeg vil gerne afslutte med at sige, at dette problem i forbindelse med det nye enhedsmarkedsperspektiv i høj grad berører virksomhederne i såvel den offentlige som den private sektor samt selve ligevægten mellem det frie marked og konkurrencen.
There is no doubt that the European Community is responsible for this area; it is central to the European internal market, and the European Community will be well-advised, as you, Commissioner, have announced, to define as soon as possible the concept of public service in the state sector.
Det berører også i høj grad borgeren som modtager af systemets ydelser. Det er i dette perspektiv og ud fra denne synsvinkel, at Kommissionen vil fortsætte sit arbejde i løbende dialog med Parlamentet.
The European People's Party takes the view that the dividing line between national responsibilities and other areas in which competition must be opened up in the consumer interest must be clear.
FORMANDEN. — Som afslutning på forhandlingen har jeg modtaget fire beslutningsforslag med anmodning om afstemning snarest muligt. (')
The fundamental issue which the Commissioner also took up is the following one: the need to up-date the concept of public service and the general interest.
Afstemningen om anmodningen om afstemning snarest muligt finder sted ved forhandlingens afslutning.
Especially in view of the creation of the large single market and of the difficult attempt to construct Europe, we must not lose sight of our principles, not leave everything to pragmatism and the everyday.
Der er ingen tvivl om, at forholdsprincippet skal anvendes. Begrænsninger af det frie marked i form af særlige og eksklusive rettigheder til levering af offentlige ydelser skal rettes mod disse mål.
The time really has come to work towards a charter of public services throughout the Community that will enable this market to develop on the basis of rules and principles and the citizens con sciously to take part in it, knowing their duties and also their rights with regard to the construction of Europe.
Når først dette er sikret, skal der være frit valg.
Manichean visions will not help us move in that direction.
Hidtil har alt dette ligget i det nationale markeds regi.
It is wrong and pointless to put forward yet again the idea of state control at all costs, and that is even more true of absolute liberalism.
Fra 1993 — med udsigt til en gradvis integration af medlemsstatemes økonomier — bliver det nye referencepunkt enhedsmarkedet.
I said "even more" because at present many people would bet that competition and the market are the only possible regulators in the interest of the consumer and look upon privatization as a total system.
Det får i det mindste tre konsekvenser: tjenesteydelser på tværs af grænser ne kan i det nye perspektiv udbydes til langt højere priser uden yderligere omkostninger i forbindelse med udvidelsen af funktionsområdet, og det ville virke stik imod hensigten.
The real problem, on the contrary, is the quality and scale of the services, their ability to ensure continuity and security, to incorporate ecological needs too, given that they are by definition in the public service and that the public is not an easy customer.
Og endelig er der problemet med den økonomi ske og sociale samhørighed. Forskellene mellem de forskellige offentlige servicesystemer kan gøre det van skeligere at nå dette mål.
PORTO (LDR). — (PT) Mr President, the salutary experience gained in this century enables us go beyond the ideas of the last few decades and to form a clear picture of the role of the public services and of the form they should take.
På den anden side har de offentlige tjenesteydelser — som jeg i enighed med mange af talerne mener bør omdefineres og revideres — er lige så berettigede eller endnu mere berettigede i forbindelse med integrationen i enhedsmarkedet.
The failure of centrally directed state systems and the disastrous results obtained in capitalist economies from highly centralized and bureaucratic administrations have led some people to adopt a totally negative view of the public services.
Kommissionens politik på dette område kan sammenfattes til, at den forsøger at finde den nødvendige balance mellem harmonisering og liberalisering. Ud fra en dynamisk synsvinkel må man tænke på den teknologiske udvikling. Forskningen eller ændringer i markedsvilkårene — jeg hentyder til konkurrencen — kan gøre det nødvendigt at flytte grænserne for området af tjeneste ydelser, som varetages af det offentlige.
To conclude I would like to ask the Commission, in the hope that the Commissioner will take this idea on board, to draw up without a delay a proposal on these matters, to be discussed with the European Parliament.
Derfor må der anlægges regelmæssige vurderinger på udviklingen i og vilkårene for udbudet af offentlige tjenesteydelser, så der skabes klarhed over investeringsudsigterne såvel i den offentlige som i den private sektor, og det skal ske inden for fastsatte tidsfrister.
However, a more careful analysis will reveal that what is at stake is not the existence of public services as such, but their role and the way they function.
Kommissionen har allerede brugt disse principper i en række specifikke meddelelser — specielt energi, postvæsen og telekommunikation — og er klar over, at enhedsmarkedet og bestræbelsen på at finde den rette balance mellem harmonisering og liberalisering for at sikre serviceydelsen og lige adgang til den — d.v.s. at ingen borger kan formenes adgang til disse offentlige ydelser — betyder, at der skal træffes politiske valg, som rokker ved veletablerede balancer.
MERZ (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I should have liked not only many visitors in the gallery but also more Members of the House and the public to have known that at the beginning of this afternoon's debate there was a closing of ranks between the European Right and Greens in their basic criticism of the principle of competition.
Derfor skal der arbejdes yderligere med sagen, og alle berørte parter skal høres — brugere og producenter af de pågældende ydelser samt faglige organisationer — før der eventuelt fremsættes forslag til lovgivning.
On the one hand, it is now quite clear that they should not become involved in production in sectors where private undertakings can operate much more efficiently, and on the other, that as control and support services, they are not there to create bureaucratic difficulties, as unfortunately is so often the case.
Hvis det er sandt, at opbygningen af Fællesskabet har til mål at forbedre ikke blot virksomhedernes, men også borgernes liv, skal det også siges klart, at de offentlige tjenesteydelser er en grundlæggende del af dette mål, samt at de er tegn på et samfunds udviklings niveau.
It should therefore be stress that, according to correct liberal thinking, which I naturally subscribe to, there is no opposition between the public and private sectors.
Jeg synes, det er vigtigt, at de ikke bliver betragtet som andre tjenesteydelser og varer.
In fact, the former is essential to enable market forces to operate to the full.