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Calvo Ortega (NI). — (ES) Hr. formand, jeg beklager dybt, at forhandlingen om skatte- og afgiftsmæssige emner er blevet udsat og erstattet af denne udveksling af anskuelser, som kaldes forhandling om Kommissionens redegørelse for generale ret ningslinjer, hvilket er udtryk for mangel på politisk vilje, hovedsagelig i Rådet.
Mr President, I cannot but regret that my country's interests are represented in Europe by a government which has forgotten that its mission is not to facilitate agreements in the Council of the EC so as to be able to presume on them afterwards, but to defend the interests of its citizens. Can a rise from 6% to 14% in VAT on housing be less important for Spaniards than a rise from 0% to 4% on food and children's clothes is for the English?
Derfor er en tilnærmelse mellem disse systemer et skridt hen imod det indre marked.
DE GUCHT (LDR). — (NL) Mr President, I should like to concentrate on three points.
Christodoulou (PPE). — (GR) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne takke kommissæren for den samarbejdsvilje og forståelse, der har præget hendes kontakt med udvalget.
CHRISTODOULOU (PPE). — (GR) Mr President, I would like to thank the Commissioner for the under standing and constructive approach she has shown in her relations with the committee, and I am pleased that fiscal approximation for the various alcoholic beverages is still an objective for the long term and that the Commissioner accepts that the process of achieving harmonization of rates in the Member States by the end of 1992, with fixed taxation zones and the scrapping of border checks, requires that a measure of ordered flexibility be permitted in the system at this present time.
I denne forbindelse glæder det mig at se. at fastlæggelsen af fælles satser for alkoholprodukter, som jeg skal komme ind på, stadig er et langsigtet mål, og for at nå dette mål accepterer kommissæren, at systemet må have en væsentlig fleksibilitet, således at medlemsstaterne forpligter sig til konvergens af deres afgiftssatser inden udgangen af 1992 og til en inddeling i afgiftzoner, hvor fjernelsen af grænsekontrollen er det endelige mål.
Firstly: I gather from Mrs Scrivener's statement that these points are already covered in the European Par liament's reports and that the various options on the matter have been properly considered, and I thus believe that Mrs Scrivener's open-minded statement makes the point that Parliament in its examination of this dossier could have gone a bit further and expressed its views more satisfactorily before its term ends in a few weeks' time.
Jeg vil gerne spørge kommissæren om hendes hold ning til tre konkrete punkter : for det første, hvorfor sker der ingen afgørende fremskridt i harmoniseringen af beskatningsgrundlaget, et område, hvor der stadig findes væsentlige forskelle?
I would like to ask the Commissioner whether she shares the view that in the determination of these zones account should be taken of the following aspects.
For det andet var der en social begrundelse for nulsatsen, vil den blive udstrakt til andre områder, vil den blive afskaffet der, hvor den nu anvendes, eller vil forskellene blive opretholdt?
Firstly, of the present fiscal differences and of the repercussions on the fiscal revenue of the Member States.
Hvad er Kommissionens holdning hertil ?
Secondly, of the maximum acceptable differentiation between areas.
For det tredje : forslaget om to gafler betyder tab af nuancer og af kvalitativ progressivitet i for bindelse med de lande, der har tre typer beskatning.
Thirdly, of the agglomerative fiscal result of the simultaneous application of value added tax and special consumption taxes on alcoholic beverages in the Member States.
For at undgå tilbageskridt vil det være nødvendigt at udvide antallet af produkter, der beskattes efter nedsat sats, f. eks. sociale boliger.
Fourthly, of the importance of retaining the structures put in place in 1972 and the exemption of small producers of traditional items.
Vi har mindre, dvs. begrænset tiltro til Kommissionens arbejdsgrupper, som blev omtalt.
And on this last point, Mr President, the approach must be sensible and Member States must have the option for a speci
Jeg vil gerne bede kommissæren gøre rede for, om der under fastlæggelsen af disse zoner bør tages hensyn til følgende forhold : for det første, de nuværende finansielle forskelle og konsekvenserne for medlemsstaternes finansindtægter.
Secondly: in her statement Mrs Scrivener said that we are seeking a workable clearing system which above all is not bureaucratic.
For det andet, de højeste acceptable forskelle mellem områderne.
I myself fully agree with her on that.
For det tredje, medlemsstaternes store indtægter fra moms og forbrugsafgifter på alkoholiske drikke. For det fjerde, nødvendigheden af at bevare de strukturer, som blev fastlagt i 1972, samt fritage de små producenter af traditionelle produkter for disse for anstaltninger.
I think a number of amendments concerning the clearing system have actually been made to that end.
Jeg vil gerne takke kommissæren endnu en gang og sige, at jeg er sikker på. at hun vil tage denne forhandling i betragtning.
I believe that what the Commission should do is pro duce proposals which attempt on the basis of statistics
Nr. 2-377/ 17 målinger af alle fysiske varebevægelser på basis af statistiske oplysninger skal forsøge at nå frem til en kompensation mellem medlemsstaterne.
De Gucht rather than the measurement of physical movements of goods to provide a system of compensation among the Member States.
Tredje bemærkning, hr. formand, for så vidt angår betænkningen om tilpasningerne til det sjette direktiv, så havde jeg gerne fra fru Scrivener hørt, hvorledes hun stiller sig til behandlingen af finansielle tjenesteydelser.
Thirdly, Mr President, regarding the report on adaptations to the sixth directive, I should have liked to hear from Mrs Scrivener what her position is on the treatment of financial services.
I min betænkning har jeg foreslået, at vi her forsøger at nå frem til en optionsforpligtelse, der munder ud i, at medlemsstaterne må overlade det til de økonomiske kræfter, hvorvidt de eventuelt er momspligtige.
I suggested in my report that we should try for an optional commitment there, whereby the Member States would leave it to economic forces to determine whether or not there should be a liability to VAT.
Dette synes mig at være den passende metode til at integrere tjenesteydelsessektoren yderligere i den økonomiske proces, og jeg havde gerne hørt kommissærens mening om det.
That seems to me to be the intelligent way to integrate the services sector into the economic process further, and I should have liked to hear the Commissioner's views on this.
Arguelles Salaverria (ED). — (ES) Hr. formand, hvad kommissæren netop har sagt, er blot et yderligere bevis på, at vi har at gøre med en forhandling af stor politisk rækkevidde, hvis problematik ikke kan løses med simple tekniske foranstaltninger, hvilker Kommissionen mente i begyndelsen.
As for harmonization itself, for the authorities a tax system is not just a matter of raising revenue; it also has to do with political opinions and policy choices for the organization of society.
Eventuelt vidste Lord Cockfield for meget om indirekte beskatning og fremsatte derfor et kohærent og solidt forslag, som det ville være enkelt at anvende, men som ikke kan opnå enstemmighed.
We believe the Member States must thus be left as much freedom as possible. Consequently we think the alternative tax bands, suggested in the Metten report, merit serious considera tion.
Det stik modsatte finder sted i mit land, hr. formand, hvor den socialistiske regering, der ikke er i stand til at kontrollere udgifterne, hilser enhver foranstaltning velkommen, som kan retfærdiggøre, at der pålægges de stakkels skatteborgere en stadig tungere skattebyrde, og til det formål findes der intet bedre middel end at kunne skyde skylden på Bruxelles. les.
In this way each one can allow for the sensitivity of its cross-border trade with its neighbours. For a country like The Netherlands the difference in rate between itself and, for example, Germany, matters a lot more than the differ ence between itself and Greece, for example.
Lalor (RDE). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg lyttede meget opmærksomt til, hvad fru Scrivener havde at sige, og selv om jeg var lidt skuffet over omfanget af de oplysninger, vi fik, stoler jeg på, at hun, når hun forelægger sit ændrede forslag på Kommissionens vegne, vil være opmærksom på det forhold, at den irske stat og vælgerne er meget interesseret i at opretholde nulsatsen for fødevarer og andre nødvendige varer.
LALOR (RDE). — Mr President, I followed very carefully what Mrs Scrivener had to say and while I was a little disappointed with the extent of the information forthcoming, I trust that when she introduces her amended proposal on behalf of the Commission, she will bear in mind the fact that the Irish State and the electorate are very anxious to maintain the zero rating on food and other essentials.
Må jeg foreslå hende, at hun, når hun udarbejder sine ændrede forslag, laver bestemmelser til imødekommelse af sådanne krav.
May I suggest to her that when she is making her amended proposals she should make provision for meeting such require ments.
Hr. formand, jeg kan kun beklage, at mit lands interesser i forhold til Europa forsvares af en regering, der har glemt, at dens opgave ikke består i at få bragt aftaler i hus i Det Europæiske Råd for bagefter at kunne bryste sig heraf, men i at forsvare borgernes interesser.
COLLINS (S). — Mr President, I thank the Commissioner for coming here tonight to make this statement. Having said that, I cannot but observe that the results of her travels around the Community's capitals have so far certainly not made her a rival of Marco Polo or Vasco da Gama.
Er det måske ikke af ligeså stor betydnig for spanierne, at momsen på boliger stiger fra 6 til 14%, som det er for englænderne, at afgiften på levnedsmidler og børnetøj stiger fra 0 til 4%?
She has said very little, in fact, that would alter the original opinion of the Consumer Affairs Committee of which she herself was once a member.
Yderligere vil hun også samtidig nødvendigvis måtte indføre en formel for kompensation for de stater, der i øjeblikket er fattige.
In addition, she will also need to introduce at the same time a formula for compensation of States which are presently deprived.
Det må accepteres, at der for en stat som Irland, hvem det ville koste noget mellem 500 og 600 mio ecu om året at følge harmoniseringsbestemmelserne, nødvendigvis må indføres en eller anden slags rationelle kompenserende bestemmelser.
It must be accepted that for a State like Ireland where it could cost anything from 500 to 600 million ECU per annum to be able to fall in line with the provisions on harmonization some type of rational compensatory provisions will, of necessity, need to be made.
Selv om jeg sagde at jeg i aften var skuffet over oplysningerne som helhed, idet jeg havde håbet på, at hun havde haft lidt mere at sige til os om det, tvivler jeg ikke på, at fru Scrivener med sin erfaring her som parlamentsmedlem, når hun efter sin rundrejse til De Tolv griber sagen an, vil fremkomme med et meget rationelt forslag, der kan accepteres.
Although I have said that I was disappointed this eve ning with the overall indications having hoped she might have had a little more to say to us on it, I have no doubt on the basis of her experience here as a par liamentarian that when Mrs Scrivener tackles this task after her tour of the Twelve she will come up with a very rational presentation that can be accepted.
De Gucht (LDR). — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne understrege tre punkter.
That committee does not believe that the case has yet been properly made for the Commission proposals.
Min anden bemærkning: fru Scrivener pegede i sin forklaring på, at vi i forbindelse med clearingsproblemet må søge en funktionsdygtig løsning, der des uden ikke er bureaukratisk, her er jeg personligt helt ening.
If Mrs Scrivener would accept this and adopt our ideas about zero rating for essential goods and services, she would not only strike a great blow for poorer people and make the Community a great deal more relevant to them than it is at the moment, but she would also increase her own personal popularity to the level that it once was in the Consumer Affairs Committee.
Jeg tror, fru kommissær, at den passende vej må være, at De nu forelægger Deres forslag, der snarere end på basis af van der Waal (NI). — (NL) Hr. formand, Kommissionens forslag om at nå frem til harmonisering af moms og punktafgifter ser ud til at blive en prøve sten på medlemsstaternes faste vilje til at gennemføre det indre marked.
VAN DER WAAL (NI). — (NL) Mr President, the Commission's proposals on harmonization of VAT and excise duties look like becoming a stern test of the Member States' resolve to complete the internal market.
De foreslåede ordninger bør efter vor opfattelse i al fald opfylde tre betingelser: man skal bibeholde den størst mulige fiskale suverænitet hos medlemsstaterne, forhindre nye omstændelige forpligtelser for erhvervslivet samt forebygge svig som følge af kompliceret lovgivning.
In our view the proposed rules must at least meet three criteria: the Member States must retain as much sovereignty as possible over their tax matters; the rules must not create new and unwieldy obligations for business and industry and they must not give rise to fraud as a result of complicated legislation.
Med udgangspunkt i disse ting må det beklages, at den såkaldte forlæggelsesordning ikke kommer i betragtning af ideologiske grunde, idet man stræber mod en fuld stændig afskaffelse af grænsekontrollen. Denne rela-
VON WOGAU (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I too should like to begin by wishing Mrs Scrivener luck in her task, because the decisions on tax matters for which she is responsible are cer-
Dernæst vil jeg stille fire spørgsmål.
Having said that I have four questions to ask her.
tivt simple og effektive ordning, der nu bruges inden for Benelux, burde efter vor opfattelse kunne udvides til hele EF.
Everyone is on standby — firms throughout Europe, ordinary citizens and politicians.
Det første spørgsmål vedrører merværdiafgiften.
The first concerns value added tax.
Vil Kommissionen fastholde sit forslag om en hovedafgiftssats på mellem 14 og 20%, og er Kommissionen af den opfattelse, at en forhøjelse af merværdiafgiften er i strid med sociale mål og endvidere kan forstærke tendensen til »sort« arbejde?
Will the Commission be keeping to its proposed main rate of between 14% and 20%, and does not the Commission also think that an increase in VAT is incompatible with social objectives and might also intensify the trend towards moonlighting?
Det andet spørgsmål vedrører det planlagte clearing system.
My second question concerns the proposed clearing system.
Hvordan vil Kommissionen skabe sikkerhed for, at dette clearingsystem ikke bliver til en yderligere byrde for de små og mellemstore virksomheder i form af ekstra administrativt arbejde?
How will the Commission ensure that this clearing system does not create an additional burden on small and medium-sized undertakings in the form of additional administrative work?
I så henseende fortjener de alternative satsintervaller, som foreslået i Mettenbetænkningen, efter vor opfattelse en grundig over vejelse.
WOLFF (LDR). — (FR) Mr President, I too should like to pay tribute to Mrs Scrivener for the objective approach which in fact she has always shown to things.
Vi gad nok vidst, om vi tilmed ikke kunne nøjes med at fastlægge en minimumsgrænse for den høje sats. Satsintervallets størrelse kan så overlades til medlemsstaternes afgørelse.
I think the task in hand will require a lot of flexibility, but also a lot of firmness and above all a constant determination to succeed.
Det tredje spørgsmål refererer til benzinafgiften.
My third question concerns the taxing of petroleum.
Vil Kommissionen yderligere udvide sit forslag ved at forøge forskellen i afgift på blyholdig og blyfri benzin?
Will the Commission not strengthen its proposal here and widen the gap between the tax on leaded and unleaded petrol?
Er Kommissionen af den opfattelse, at blyfri bezin i samtlige medlemsstater bør nyde afgiftsfordele, hvilket vil være i overensstemmelse med Kommissionens nye miljøpolitiske mål?
Does it not consider that unleaded petrol should enjoy a tax advantage in all countries of the European Community, in line with the Commission's new objectives on the environment?
Collins (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg takker kom missæren for at være kommet her i aften for at afgive denne redegørelse.
It seems to me, Commissioner, that it would be useful to have a working model.
Når det er sagt, kan jeg kun bemærke, at resultaterne af hendes rejser rundt til Fællesskabets hovedstæder indtil nu absolut ikke har gjort hende til en rival af Marco Polo eller Vasco da Gama.
We have seen in France that a poorly designed working model, or no working model at all, has had major repercussions.
Hun sagde faktisk meget lidt, der vil ændre den oprindelige opfattelse i Forbrugerbeskyttelses udvalget, som hun selv engang var med lem af.
I would remind the Commissioner that the matter is urgent, but also that there are consequences which cannot be foreseen straight away.
For det fjerde hvad angår vin- og spiritusafgiften, som foreslået af Kommissionen : Er Kommissionen klar over, at en vinafgift i hvert fald ikke vil blive forstået i Det Europæiske Fællesskabs vindyrkende områder, og det gælder for alle Fællesskabets sydlige medlemsstater?
Fourthly, regarding the Commission's proposed taxation of wine, of alcohol: does the Commission not realize that a tax on wine would not be appreciated at all, at least not in the Community's wine-growing regions, and that that would be the case in all the southern members of the European Community?
Mener Kommissionen, at vin er en væsentlig bestanddel af europæisk kultur og livsform og derfor ikke bør beskattes yderligere?
Does it not consider that wine is an important part of European culture and life and should not therefore be sub ject to an increased level of tax?
Vil Kom missionen følge hr. Christodoulous betænkning og tage forslaget om vinafgift tilbage?
Will it not act on Mr Christodoulou's report and withdraw its proposal on the taxing of wine?
Udvalget tror ikke, at Kommissionens forslag endnu er blevet ordentligt begrundet.
Firstly, the budgets for 1993 are prepared in 1992; so speed is of the essence.
Vi tror ikke, at det er mere sandsynligt nu, at folk rejser fra Glasgow til Genova for at købe en begravelse eller fra Barcelona til Bonn for at købe en avis. Desuden vil vi gerne understrege, som hr. Lalor har gjort, ønskeligheden af en nulsats for basale varer som fødevarer eller bøger og aviser og børnetøj.
But the VAT bases used in the various countries are also used for specific aids to local authorities, and it would thus be a good thing to know what the consequences of these aids will be and above all what is likely to be reduced, because the regional or local authorities will have to prepare their budgets too.
Men jeg er meget opmærksom på, at det ikke er Kommissionens skyld, at vi faktisk ikke er nået ret langt på flere år.
If aid from the State is reduced, their only option is to make up the shortfall from local taxes, that is to say from the taxpayer.
Det er en forud sætning for, at det hele lykkes, når vi når frem til
In other words, by shifting the tax burden, which is not desirable.
Det forventer alle. Alle er i venteposition — virksomhederne overalt i Europa, borgerne, politikerne.
OPPENHEIM (ED). — (DA) Mr President, I would also like to thank Mrs Scrivener for the statement.
Tiden går lynhurtigt. tigt.
Not much that is new was said.
For selvfølgelig skal vi finde frem til en løsning, som alle kan tilslutte sig, men der kommer ikke noget ud af at blive ved med at udskyde og vente. Vil Kommissionen bede med lemsstaterne om at svare inden for en vis frist og i givet fald hvilken?
We have long been accustomed to these questions being dealt with in working groups and are aware that the Commission is considering new proposals in some areas.
betyde et provenutab på 40 mia kroner eller en femtedel af statens budget. Når hertil lægges skønnede nødvendige nedsættelser af person, for mue- og selskabsstatterne forestår der en nedbombning af den sociale velfærdsstat.
The VAT basis is also used to finance the various con tributions of Member States to the Community, and here too, any lowering of that basis will necessarily mean a reduction in those contributions, with all the possible consequences of that.
Men så kan det ikke være meningen, at denne vetoret tømmes for sit indhold gennem en reel fjernelse af afgiftsgrænserne, således som det vil ske for Danmark, dersom todøgnsreglen fjernes.
Even with judicious harmonization — as one of my colleagues puts it — I think we shall need some flexibility and a gradualist approach in our application of the various texts.
Wolff (LDR). — (FR) Hr. formand, også jeg vil gerne takke fru Scrivener for den saglighed, hun altid har lagt for dagen.
But I am very conscious of the fact that it is not the Commission's fault that we have not made much pro gress over several years.
Jeg vil gerne gøre Dem opmærksom på, at det haster, men at der også er konsekvenser, som man ikke opdager med det samme.
I also realize that we are con cerned here with a very sensitive area, but it does not become any less sensitive when years go by and the decisions are put off.
Jeg drager to konklusioner: Den første er, at Den Fælles Akt i modsætning til den generelt accepterede opfattelse ikke har givet Fællesskabet alle de institutionelle midler til gennemførelse af de forkyndte mål.
The Member States have been aware of these tax and duty problems for 20-30 years, but now the development of the Community's internal market has progressed so far that everyone is aware of the need for the tax and duty question to be settled as well.
På et så omtåleligt og vanskeligt område er det ikke heldigt bagud at nære tvivl og være vankelmodig.
It is a precondition for success in the completion of the entire venture by 1 January 1993.
Det er før, forslagene fremsættes, at man bør undersøge forbeholdene og gøre sig vanskelighederne klart.
It is quite possible that individual solutions will have to be found for specific taxation sectors, but I think it important that the matter be settled soon.
Bagefter er det for sent!
Everyone expects that.
Christensen (ARC). — Hr. formand, for Danmark vil en afgifts- og momsharmonisering som foreslået
CHRISTENSEN (ARC). — (DA) Mr President, for Denmark the harmonization of taxes and duties as proposed will mean a loss of revenue of 40 billion kroner, or one fifth of the national budget.
Er det rigtigt, fru kommissær, at Kommissionen agter at acceptere nulsatsen som andet end en overgangsundtagelse?
If you then add the estimated reductions in personal, capital and company taxation which will be necessary, it will amount to the blasting apart of the social welfare
Jeg tror, at det vil være en alvorlig fejl ikke at bevæge sig i den retning.
Christensen those in need of help.
Det er det samme som at give nulsatsen som foræring til de 80% af befolkningen, der har nok at købe for, for at hjælpe de 10 eller 20% dårligt stillede.
It makes a gift of the zero rate to 80% of the population who are perfectly well able to afford things, all that in order to help the less welloff.
Det er økonomisk vanvid.
It is an economic absurdity.
Peter Beazley (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, fem hurtige spørgsmål til kommissæren.
BEAZLEY, Peter (ED). — Mr President, five quick questions for the Commissioner.
Vil De fastholde nulafgiften som et momsprincip for basale varer og særlige sociale krav, herunder velgørenhed?
Will you maintain zero rating as a principle of VAT for essential goods and special social require ments including charities?