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Men jeg kan ikke forstå, hvorfor man træffer en sådan beslutning, før der er afholdt afstemning om de tre resterende beslutningsforslag.
I would tell the Commissioner that there has been considerable concern about what would seem to have been private meetings between Mr Delors and re presentatives of the Romanian regime.
Jeg kan ikke se, hvordan det forslag kan erstattes af en kompromistekst indgået på grundlag af et af de to andre beslutningsforslag, eftersom det førstnævnte forslag henstiller til øjeblikkelig indstilling af krigen.
The Commission will be aware, I believe, that this Parliament has voted to put the agreements that we have reached with Romania on ice for the time being, until such time as the Romanian authorities create a far more open society.
Nogle af os kan nu forstå, hvad sanktioner betyder, når De gør brug af proceduren vedrørende afstemning under et på en sådan måde.
Will the Commission now accept that parliamentary position and review those association agreements as they exist at the moment?
Jeg anmoder Dem om råd og vejledning, hr. for mand, eftersom Parlamentet har truffet en sådan beslutning.
MARÍN, Vice-President of the Commission. — (ES) I can only repeat what I said before.
Jeg blev valgt ind i Parlamentet i juni 1984 og igen i 1989.
The Commission's conception of a political party cannot differ from your own conception.
Jeg kom her for at deltage i Det Socialistiske Partis gruppemøder.
The Commission, too, has very clear principles such as freedom, democracy, constitution, pluralism and freedom of thought.
De, hr. formand, har fastsat en frist til kl. 22.00, og jeg formoder, at der skal være plads til gruppemøder.
I think that these values are common to the European idea, and we are perfectly well aware that in Romania, as in some other countries of the East, much progress still has to be made before a system of liberties is truly consolidated.
Jeg håber og tror, at dette plenarmøde vil blive udsat med henblik på at give grupperne mulighed for at mødes.
Our part must of course be to impel and consolidate this type of movement towards democracy.
Hvis det ikke er tilfældet, hvordan kan jeg så opfylde det mandat, som jeg blev valgt til?
PRESIDENT. — Question No 46, by Mrs Banotti (H-1328/90)
Det er den ulogiske situation, De sætter os i, hr. formand.
Subject: Aid to Romanian orphanages
Imbeni (GUE). — (IT) Hr. formand, jeg mener, at de forslag, hr. Giscard d'Estaing og hr. Lannoye har fremsat, er i overensstemmelse med den sunde for nuft.
MARÍN, Vice-President of the Commission. — (ES) I do not think there is any lack of attunement between the European Parliament and the Commission regarding the value we place on progress towards democracy in Romania or in any of the other countries of the East.
Efter min mening er der nu behov for at få lidt klarhed i vort arbejde.
I think we are on the same wavelength.
Jeg mener nemlig, at det er betydningsfuldt, at Europa-Parlamentet på en eller anden måde når frem til at udtrykke sin mening, til at indtage en stilling, som eventuelt kan være en anden end den, som jeg vil gå ind for, snarere end slet ikke at tage stilling.
Of course, it is unjust to infer from the fact that a member of the Commission, albeit our President, has had some form of contact with leaders of the Romanian Government, that the Commission is therefore not complying with the decisions taken at the time by the European Parliament
Jeg vil gerne sige til hr. Cot og andre, at de ikke vil få nogen støtte, men derimod miskreditere sig selv, hvis de ikke giver os menige medlemmer mulighed for i gruppen at stille ændringsforslag til et hvilket som helst beslutningsforslag.
Could the Commission inform the House how effective the distribution of aid to orphanages in Romania is at present, and does it feel that there is need for better coordination between the European Community authorities and the NGOs working directly with the Romanian authorities ?
Kun i så tilfælde vil vi støtte det.
— which seems to be the tenor of Mr Howell's remarks.
Det er netop med dette formål, at vort arbejde efter min mening burde fortsætte, som det er blevet foreslået, altså ved at stemme om de tre beslutningsforslag.
MARÍN, Vice-President of the Commission. — (ES) Mrs Banotti, I wish to inform you, at the request of my colleague Mr Andriessen, of the exact state of progress of the programme of emergency humanitarian aid to the Romanian orphanages.
Såfremt Parlamentet efter disse tre afstemninger måtte konstatere, at der ikke var vedtaget nogen beslutning, tror jeg, at vi alle enstemmigt ville gå ind for at tillade fremsættelse af andre beslutningsforslag inden den af Dem angivne frist.
ROGALLA (S). — (DE) Has the Commission given any thought to, or gathered any statistical data on, how mass migration from Romania, Greece and other parts of the world would affect the policy on asylum and the checks at the external borders of the Community ?
Formanden. — Parlamentet har vedtaget et forslag, som jeg må rette mig efter.
As you know, at the end of 1990 the Commission set up a programme of emergency humanitarian aid to the tune of about ECU 4.5 million, with the aim of installing adequate heating systems in all Romanian orphanages, and of providing them with food and medicine, and with training in those centres housing disabled and undernourished children in extremely difficult circumstances.
Formanden. — Mine damer og herrer, jeg havde tænkt mig at foreslå, vi gik over til afstemningen om forslagene til beslutning om'situationen i de baltiske lande, men det ser ud til, at man ønsker at genåbne forhandlingen..
This programme was in addition to other pilot projects already in place in some orphanages, which increased the total cost by another ECU 2.7 million, almost ECU 3 million.
Giscard d'Estaing (LDR). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne fremsætte et forslag med henblik på at løse denne vanskelige situation, der er klart pinlig for Parlamentet.
Furthermore, the Commission has launched a technical assistance programme with the aim of helping the Romanian authorities and the non-governmental organizations involved in implementation of the
De la Malene (RDE). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg har ikke hidtil deltaget i denne debat, men jeg føler mig forpligtet til at gøre det nu, efter Deres svar til hr. Giscard d'Estaing.
MARÍN, Vice-President of the Commission. — (ES) Mr Rogalla, I am not in a position to tell you precisely how many Romanian exiles or emigrants have moved to other countries of the Community.
Vi latterliggør os selv med denne fremgangsmåde. Vi påbegyndte en forhandling i mandags, udsatte den to gange undervejs, og afstemningen herom finder måske sted i morgen.
Unfortunately, such situations do arise, but you will appreciate that it would be unfair to blame this on the Commission or on these non-governmental organizations which, in our view, do their work efficiently, and on a purely voluntary basis.
Det har De selv lige sagt.
Commission's programme.
Jeg må sige, at jeg ikke kan acceptere en sådan fremgangsmåde.
VON ALEMANN (LDR). — (DE) Mr Commissioner, I was particularly interested in the question you answered on effective aid for orphanages.
Vi er rede til at fastsætte nye frister.
I wanted to ask you about the heating programme.
Man kan ikke reservere de nye frister til de grupper, hvis beslutningsforslag stadig foreligger, og kun give de øvrige ret til at stille ændringsforslag.
Some of the non-governmental organizations claimed that this money was given to military units to finance the heating programmes.
Der står bl.a., at mødet udsættes kl. 19 og genoptages kl. 20.45.
BANOTTI (PPE). — There is a lot of good news in your answer, Commissioner, and it is to be welcomed.
Klokken er nu 19.40.
Thank you.
Vil De venligst oplyse, hvor dan De forestiller Dem, at vi kan gennemføre den resterende del af dagsordenen?
Not quite all the orphanages, I am afraid, have received the basic heating.
Formanden. — Det skal jeg forklare Dem, når jeg bliver i stand til svare på alle de bispørgsmål, der stilles.
I was told of two tonight that are urgently in need, but I will contact the Commission directly on that.
Fremsættes der to eller fifre beslutningsforslag, kan forslags stillerne til hvert af disse torslag — udvalg, grupper og medlemmer — aftale at udarbejde et fælles beslutningsforslag.
MARÍN, Vice-President of the Commission. — (ES) I refer to the documents that my colleague, Mr Andriessen, the Commissioner responsible for this matter, has prepared for me.
Med formel accept fra forslagsstillernes side kan andre udvalg, grupper eller medlemmer ligeledes underskrive dette fælles beslutningsforslag inden udløbet af den i henhold til dagsordenen fastsatte frist for indgivelse af fælles beslutningsforslag. ningsforslag.
Execution and general co ordination of this aid are in fact being carried out by the Romanian authorities, and we have been able to ascertain that some operations have gone well, some averagely and some badly, basically because of a communication problem.
Hvilket vil sige, at samtlige medlemmer og grupper i Parlamentet har samme rettigheder og fortsat vil have det.
It would appear that the Romanian administration is experiencing enormous difficulties in operating nor mally, which, again, is hardly surprising.
De Rossa (CG). — (EN) Hr. formand, først og fremmest protesterer jeg over Deres bemærkninger vedrørende medlemmernes indlæg her i dag.
Could the Commissioner comment on recent very disturbing press reports of massive amounts of aid coming in one door and going out the other.
De kan ikke karakteriseres som bibemærkninger, det er tværtimod vigtige bemærkninger om Parlamentets funktionsmåde.
Are you satisfied that aid that has been sent there is not getting into the wrong hands and subsequently being sold onwards ?
Hvis det heller ikke lykkes dem i morgen at få deres forslag igennem, vil de så forsøge at få fastsat en ny frist i morgen?
Obviously emergency heating programmes cannot be sold on but I am referring to other forms of emergency aid sent to Romania.
(Bifald)
PRESIDENT. — Question No 47, by Mrs von Alemann (H-39/91)
Men før jeg begrunder dette punkt yderligere, vil jeg protestere over den vilkårlige måde, De giver ordet til talere på.
MARÍN, Vice-President of the Commission. — (ES) Mrs Banotti, in an urgent or emergency operation, some wastage in execution is inevitable.
De så det godt, men gav mig ikke ordet. Jeg ville have støttet Dem, for så vidt som De i medfør af artikel 56, stk. 4, som formand kunne have truffet en afgørelse.
I would say it is almost impossible.
De indlagde så en pause. Efter denne fandt der en afstemning sted, som der ikke er noget grundlag for, idet der i bilag III, punkt 7, står:
Is it true that the Commission representative at its Office in Bucharest who has been responsible for coordinating Community aid to Romania, in particular aid for the Romanian orphanages, is no longer in service there ?
Grundlaget for de foreliggende beslutningsforslag findes i Forretningsordenen, som burde have været overholdt.
You are asking me a delicate question when you ask whether the Commission has evidence that this humanitarian and emergency aid has been diverted, since it is usual for there to be instances of this happening.
Der foreligger stadig tre beslutningsforslag, og de bør sættes under afstemning.
The Commission is working in Romania through the non-governmental organizations that normally work with us.
Vi har alle deltaget i udfærdigelsen af forskellige kompro-
These are organizations that have an excellent reputation within the Community, and, as a matter of principle, in this operation as in other operations we carry out through these NGOs, the Commission has total confidence in the way in which our budget is spent.
Hvorfor kan vi ikke fortsætte vort arbejde?
Commission considers it prudent not to do so for the moment.
Det er højst ejendommeligt.
PRESIDENT. — Question No 48, by Mr Desama (H1333/90)
Jeg kan ikke forstå, hvordan De kan anvende en sådan fremgangsmåde.
Subject: Electricity supplies to the countries of Central and Eastern Europe
Parlamentet har ikke besluttet noget sådant. Hvordan kan De blive ved med at bryde reglerne på denne måde?
The unit can also serve as a liaison point for other aid activities and programmes the Commission may carry out in Romania. mania.
I betragtning af at procedurespørgsmål i denne forsamling har fortrinsret fremfor indholdet, var der en, der ønskede at tale for udsættelsen, en anden imod og for at der ikke skal herske nogen tvivl sætter jeg nu anmodningen om udsættelse af mødet under afstemning ved navneopråb.
If measures are envisaged, and bearing in mind the major risks of such a link to the integrated grids of the Community, is the Commission planning to provide the technical and financial means to modernize the electricity grids of the countries of Central and Eastern Europe ?
(Anmodningen godkendtes)
VON ALEMANN (LDR). — (DE) I should like to thank the Commission for that answer and ask for clarification on one point.
Cot (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, hvis vi fortsætter på denne måde, vil vi have ydet den kraftpræstation at komplicere tingene, at trække dem i langdrag og at stå uden et fælles beslutningsforslag.
MATUTES, Member of the Commission. — (ES) In fact, at the high-level meeting of the G 24 on 30 October 1990, it was agreed that energy should, with immediate effect, be considered as a priority sector for co ordinated assistance to the countries of Central and Eastern Europe.
Jeg udsætter følgelig mødet til kl. 20.45, hvor spørgetiden med spørgsmål til Kommissionen påbegyndes efterfulgt af spørgsmål til Rådet.
I think that the new man or woman takes on this job in Bucharest ought to make it clear to the Romanian authorities that they should not just accept short-term emergency measures.
Jeg gentager, at fristen for at fremsætte kompromisbeslutningsforslag er fastsat til kl. 22.00 i aften.
The Romanians themselves and the NGO should be encouraged to plan longterm programmes.
Fristen for ændringsforslag hertil er fastsat til i morgen kl. 10.00, og afstemningen vil finde sted kl. 15.00.
No one can expect any changes in these orphanages if staff is not trained on a longterm basis.
Jeg anmoder derfor om, at mødet nu udsættes, idet det ligger fast, at vi i morgen tidlig stemmer om de resterende tekster. Det siger sig selv.
This will make it possible to achieve a better balance between supply and demand in the various energy sectors in these countries.
Chanterie (PPE). — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg tror, at hr. Cots forslag kan få Parlamentets tilslutning, da vi nu kører i ring uden at komme videre.
In consequence, the Commission will accordingly give attention to this area in its proposals to G 24 for co ordinated assistance in the energy sector.
Vi må, hvordan det end forholder sig, have en mulighed for at nå frem til en ny kompromistekst, og jeg finder, at alle grupper om nødvendigt må inddrages heri. Derfor støtter vi hr. Cots forslag, og vi foreslår, at mødet udsættes.
It should not however be forgotten that modernization of the grids calls for enormous longterm investment and very specific technologies can only be provided by the industries in the sector.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er spørgetid (dok. B3-21/91).
MARÍN, Vice-President of the Commission. — (ES) Basically this is what the Commission intends, that is, to convert the emergency programme into structural aid.
Vi skal behandle spørgsmål til Rådet, Det Europæiske Politiske Samarbejde og Kommissionen.
The problem is that in principle the Commission — harking back to what the European Parliament decided, and to Mr Howell's previous question — is not intending to open a delegation in Bucharest until such time as there is some consolidation of the situation in Romania, towards a system of liberties, towards a system of consolidated democracy.
Wurtz (CG). — (FR) Hvilket kneb skal man benytte sig af, hr. formand, for at få ordet, som jeg nu har anmodet om i tyve minutter.
Consequently, if this type of relations with Romania is consolidated, one day they will be normalized by the opening of a delegation.
Jeg er imod, og jeg skal forklare hvorfor.
In view of current events, the
Ophævelsen af EF's indre grænser i 1993 vil kræve en streng kontrol ved de ydre grænser.
You very rightly said that considerable investments were involved.
Kan Rådet give nærmere oplysninger om, hvad, der agter at gøre for at sikre en sådan kontrol, navnlig ved de »utætte« grænser som for eksempel den græske, der er Østens indfaldsport til Europa?
So my supplementary question will simply be to ask you what financial means the Commission is going to use to help finance these investments.
Sammen med 54 andre medlemmer har jeg fremsat et forslag til beslutning, som ikke er sat under afstemning.
Will it be through the PHARE programme, will it be through the EBRD, will it be through the EIB ?
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Can you give me any answers on this subject?
Wohlfart jeg sige følgende: For det første er der allerede arbejde i gang med henblik på udarbejdelse af en konvention om passage af Det Europæiske Fælles skabs medlemsstaters ydre grænser.
MATUTES, Member of the Commission. — (ES) Perhaps it is rather soon to determine what will be the most appropriate means, inasmuch as within one and the same sector different means will be used in different cases, depending on the degree of participation of private initiative — for we cannot rule out the possibility of some investment being financed by private entities.
I den forbindelse bør opmærksomheden henledes på, at Det Euro pæiske Råd på sit møde den 14. og 15. december 1990 ønskede, at de nødvendige beslutninger med henblik på passage af de ydre grænser hurtigt blev truffet, for at fristen den 1. januar 1993 kunne overholdes.
It is clear that, within the group of actions comprised by the PHARE programme, LABER and the Group of 24 acting in coordination, the most important thing is ultimately that, given that it is a priority sector, it should not suffer as a result of a lack of investment or of financing of investment.
lige de førnævnte konklusioner og vil forelægge Rådet og udenrigsministrene en rapport om denne sag.
PRESIDENT. — As the authors are absent, Questions Nos 49 and 50 will be answered in writing. '
Galland (LDR). — (FR) De er meget sympatisk, hr. rådsformand, men her i denne intime hyggelige kreds, vi har i aften, vil jeg gerne komme med to bemærkninger.
CORNELISSEN (PPE). — (NL) I welcome the assurance from the Commissioner that with all due respect for the aid Turkey is currently offering in the war against Saddam Hussein's regime that cannot be an argument for the European Community not to take the same consistent hard line on respect for human rights in Turkey, especially with regard to the Kurds.
Jeg har stillet Dem et spørgsmål.
These items are in the reserve.
De svarede overhovedet ikke.
I have two questions in this regard.
Mit spørgsmål var:
Question No 51, by Mr Cornelissen (H-20/91): Subject: Violation of the human rights of Kurds
For det andet er der blandt de problemer, der skal løses i denne sammenhæng, grund til navnlig at nævne dem, der har forbindelse med fortolkningen af artikel 8 A om fri bevægelighed for personer.
Firstly, have you any information about the report which I assume must be produced on respect of human rights in Turkey before that aid can be transferred from the reserve to the budget heading ?
Ud fra denne tankegang fandt Rådet og medlemsstater nes udenrigsministre forsamlet i Rådet på deres møde den 4. december 1990 det opportunt at indlede undersøgelser, der inddrog Kommissionen med hen blik på en bedre præcisering af rækkevidden af artikel 8 A i EØF-Traktaten, når det drejer sig om fri bevægelighed for borgere fra medlemsstaterne eller borgere fra tredjelande.
What is the situation there ? May I in this context seek an assurance from the Commissioner that when we reacht the stage that this aid can be given, it will also benefit the Kurds who are forced to live in the most miserable human conditions in Turkey, with very little respect for their human rights ?
Kan Rådet give nærmere oplysninger om, hvad det agter at gøre for at sikre en sådan kontrol, navnlig ved de »utætte« grænser som for eksempel den græske, der er Østens indfaldsport til Europa?
What is the response of the Commission to the reports of violations of human rights, the inhumane treatment and lamentable situation of the Kurds in general, and in particular the (displaced) Turkish Kurds and Kurdish refugees from Iraq in Turkey ?
Jeg talte om Fællesskabets ydre grænser og om de skrøbelige grænser, hvad indvandringen angår.
In the light of the aid recently granted by the EC to Turkey in connection with the Gulf crisis, will the Commission use its influence to bring about an improvement in the living conditions and respect for the human rights of Kurds in general, and of Kurdish refugees in particular ?
Ved den lejlighed tog Rådet og udenrigsministrene i en indledende drøftelse fat på problemet om en indvandringspolitik, idet man støttede sig på en beretning fra koordinatorgruppen og på rapporter fra sagkyndige udpeget af Kommissionen.
MATUTES, Member of ¿he Commission. — (ES) The Commission has made it clear to the Turkish Govern ment on a number of occasions, particularly in the report it adopted in December 1989 in connection with the request by Turkey for membership of the Com munity, that the Community attaches importance to respect for human rights by our future members, in this case Turkey, and in particular, to respect for the rights of minorities, especially the Kurds.
Jeg beklager at måtte sige til Dem, hr. rådsformand, at De ikke med et eneste ord svarede på mit spørgsmål, men at De kom med en meget generel udtalelse:
The Commission has not for the moment received any information to suggest that the Iraqi refugees in Turkey who are of Kurdish origin have been subjected to ill-treatment.
Der vil hurtigt blive truffet beslutninger for at overholde fristen den 1. januar 1993, gennemføre undersøgelser som Kommissionen inddrages i, styrke samarbejde, opnå ajourført kendskab til at kunne klare indvandringsstrømmene.
MATUTES, Member of the Commission. — (ES) With regard to the first question put by Mr Cornelissen, I should like to confirm that the Commission has received no report or information to suggest that the Iraqi refugees of Kurdish origin have been subjected to illtreatment in Turkey.
Betyder det, hr. rådsformand, at Rådet, i betragt ning af disse ængstelige svar og disse undvigende oplysninger, mener, at det i den nuværende situation ikke vil være i stand til at overholde fristen den 1. januar 1993, hvad fri bevægelighed for personer angår, på grund af de bånd der er lagt på indvandringsstrømmene? dringsstrømmene?
With regard to the specific aid to which this question refers, it is not possible to make it subject to any conditionality other than strict application of the sanctions, since such was the decision of the Council and of this Parliament when the credits in question were approved.
Det skal i den forbindelse bemærkes, at Rådet og ministrene forsamlet i Rådet har opfordret koordinatorgruppen til i fællig med Kommissionen at se på midlerne til iværksættelse af de forslag, der indeholdes såvel i koordinatorernes beretning som i rapporterne fra Kommissionens sagkyndige.
Recognition of the extremely important role played by Turkey in application of the trade sanctions against Iraq proclaimed by the United Nations cannot, however — in the opinion of the Commission — be made conditional on other variables such as improvement in its political situation or in the rights of the Kurdish people, or on any other condition,
Wohlfart. — (FR) Det glæder mig i første omgang, at hr. Galland har kaldt mig sympatisk, noget sådant vækker altid glæde.
BALFE (S). — I welcome the Commissioner's response and in particular his response on this issue of human rights for the Kurds.
De ved, at de spørgsmål, man stiller os, undertiden er temmelig vanskelige!
I have a lot of experience of human rights in Turkey as I am member of the Joint Committee.