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Newman (S). — Jeg er glad for fra Rådets formand at få de oplysninger, som mange af os meget længe har forsøgt at få. Men synes han ikke, at i en situation, hvor der er hundreder af millioner af mennesker, der sulter i den tredje verden, og millioner af pensionister, arbejdsløse og lavtlønnede arbejdere i Storbritannien og resten af Fællesskabet, der ikke har råd til at betale de kunstigt høje priser for det oksekød og smør og andre varer, der er oplagret i disse interventionslagre, så er den virkelige grund til de enorme vanskeligheder, som medlemmer af Europa-Parlamentet og andre har haft med at finde frem til disse lagres placering, frygten for demonstrationer uden for dem.
Briefly my question is this: what status could be accorded to the Canary Islands to ensure that their produce is not unfairly discriminated against com pared to the way the Community treats imports from non-Community countries — as in the case of the preferential agreement signed with certain Mediterranean countries referred to earlier — and to ensure that they are able to enjoy all the rights and benefits stemming from Spain's — and the Canaries' — membership of the European Economic Community, bearing in mind that the French overseas territories already enjoy advantages which could perhaps serve as a model for a solution to the Canaries Islands situation?
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Vi bør nok være præcise med hensyn til ansvarsfordelingen her.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — One of the advantages of being exposed in my present office to questions as detailed as the one I have just listened to is that the question plays, as it should do, an informative rôle.
Der er ikke sket nogen ændring på det te punkt.
The Canary Islands territories are not included in the customs territory of the Community.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Jeg kan godt forestille mig argumenter for mere præcise oplysninger om dis se ting, men det, som det ærede medlem har fremført, appellerer ikke til mig.
However, the pro tocol nevertheless provides for the gradual introduction of a free trade area between those territories and the Community.
Simpson (ED). — (EN) Jeg vil bare gerne vide, om Rådets formand kunne tænke sig sammen med mig at råde de to ærede medlemmer, der har stillet de sidste to spørgsmål, til at ansætte kompetente forskningsassistenter, hvis de ikke selv kan finde rundt i Fællesskabets retsregler.
Because of that obligation the Com mission has made the proposals that it has and the Council is seeking to consider them within the same context as the other Mediterranean countries to which he has referred.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Jeg er ikke sikker på. at jeg bør tilslutte mig en så åbenlyst provokerende kommentar.
President. — As Mr Griffiths cannot be in his place to ask a supplementary, Question No 4 will not be taken today.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 7 af Raftery (H1039/85):
Subject: Measures to prevent goods being held up at frontiers
Elliott (S). — (EN) Jeg vil gerne spørge rådsformanden, om han kan fortælle os, om den forsikring, han
Mr Medina Ortega (S). — (ES) Returning to the question tabled by Mr Escuder Croft and the reply given by the President of the Council, there is another question on the same lines that I should like to put to him.
Om: Forbrugsafgifter på vin
The French exporters, who had not been warned in advance, lost hundreds of thousands of francs.
Vil Rådet oplyse, hvilke fremskridt der er gjort med henblik på vedtagelse af Kommissionens forslag fra 1972 om harmonisering af forbrugsafgifterne på vin i hele Fællesskabet?
What measures does the Council intend to take to ensure the free movement of goods within the EEC in
Sir Geoffrey Howe, formand for Rådet. — (EN) I de seneste år har Rådet gjort visse fremskridt i sporgsmålet om forbrugsafgifter på alkoholholdige drikkevarer, herunder vin.
President accordance with the Treaties and to see that the firms which have suffered serious losses are compensated by the Italian, French or Community authorities?
Rådet tager nu de foreliggende forslag på dette område op til fornyet behandling og vil ligeledes overveje andre forslag, som Kommissionen måtte forelægge.
How does the Council of Ministers propose to overcome this serious con­flict, and do they intend to make this information available, as stated by the European Commission?
imellem helt forskellige beskatningsstrukturer, som indebærer, at nogle medlemsstater er stærkt afhængige af store indtægter fra beskatningen af en eller anden form for alkohol, mens andre har et helt an derledes mønster. Det er på grund af denne store divergens og de forandringer, som ville være nødvendige, hvis man skulle have en ensartet, helt eller del vis harmoniseret ordning, at man må overveje dette spørgsmål så omhyggeligt.
Sir Geoffrey Howe, President-in-Office of the Council. — I had been hoping to have the opportunity of answering the question posed by Mr Griffiths because the said Mr Griffiths has an address within the consti­tuency that I first fought when I strove to enter the Parliament at Westminster.
Det er faktisk et spørgsmål, som Rådet af okonomi- og finansministre har til særlig overvejelse netop nu.
It would appear that a reply to the question put here is provided by Commission Regulation No 2006/80, which lists in the annex the location of intervention centres in all the Member States.
Raftery (PPE). — (EN) Jeg vil gerne spørge Rådets formand, om det ikke er sandt, at den nuværende ordning diskriminerer mod ølproducerende lande?
The answer is that in its White Paper to the European Council the Commission indicated, in the timetable for completing the internal market by 1992, that it intends to submit proposals to the Council on this matter in 1988.
Jeg tror. at hans land har fået forbud mod at beskatte vin hårdere end ol. På den anden side er det muligt for de vinproducerende lande at beskatte øl, men ikke vin.
As soon as it has received the relevant Commission proposals, the Council will endeavour to reach a decision as soon as possible in order to facili­tate the free movement of fishery products in the Community.
Har jeg derfor ikke ret. når jeg siger, at de alkohol- og ølproducerende lande er udsat for diskrimination? mination?
Given the circumstances which gave rise to the particular losses mentioned by the Honourable Member, possible compensation for the undertakings in question does not, I am advised, fall within the Council's competence.
Patterson (ED). — (EN) I forlængelse af det spørgsmål, er rådsformanden så ikke enig i, hvad lord Cockfield siger i hvidbogen om det interne marked, at det er nødvendigt at harmonisere toldafgifterne på vin og andre alkoholholdige drikke for at slippe af med afgiftsgrænserne.
Mr Newman (S). — I am glad to hear from the Presi­dent-in-Office of the Council the information that many of us have been trying to get over a long period of time.
Hvis han ikke er enig, og hvis andre medlemsregeringer ikke er enige, har han så gjort sig tanker om, hvad det koster skatteyderne at holde toldkontrollører ved grænserne blot for at for hindre almindelige turister i at tage mere end seks flasker vin med sig hjem over grænsen?
But does he not feel that in a situation where there are hundreds of millions of people starving in the Third World and millions of prisoners, unemployed and low paid workers in Britain and the rest of the European Community who cannot afford to pay the artificially high prices of the beef and butter and other commodities stored in these intervention stores, the real reason for the enormous difficulties that MEPs and others have had in finding out these locations has been the fear of demonstrations outside these loca­tions?
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Det være langt fra mig at gå direkte imod det. som hvidbogen går ind for, og som det ærede medlem nu har støttet.
Mr Wolff (LDR). — (FR) I consider this a typical example of an obstacle to the free movement of goods, with the mere fact that a problem arises in a given country causing goods to be held up at the border.
Men når jeg har gjort denne indrømmelse, vil jeg ikke fravige mit tidligere synspunkt om, at det et område, hvor der er betydelige praktiske problemer for medlemsstaterne, og dem må man afveje over for dem, som det ærede medlem har nævnt.
I would ask you whether it would not be possible to have a proposal on this subject also, to ensure that such risks can no longer arise in future.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Jeg forstår det ærede medlems bekymring. Denne sag har to sider.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — I understand the honourable Member's concern about the particular example referred to in his question.
Den ene er spørgsmålet om at nå frem til en helt eller delvis harmoniseret vinafgift på dette eller hint alkolholholdige produkt.
It is, as I would see it, an illustration of the case for making further progress along the lines he has advocated.
Med hensyn hertil er der foreløbig kun sket små fremskridt, fordi der, som han siger, er visse lande, hvor der i nogle tilfælde slet ikke findes en sådan afgift.
I think it must be said that it is for the Commission and not for the Council to make a specific proposal addressed to his particular point.
På den anden side er der det særskilte spørgsmål om at forhindre en diskriminerende be skatning af forskellige former for alkoholforbrug i de enkelte medlemsstater, og på dette punkt er der sket visse fremskridt.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — I can think of some reasons that might be put forward for more specific disclosure of this information, but the one advanced by the hon­ourable Member is not one that would commend the proposition in my mind.
Det er den ene side af sagen. Jeg tror, han har ret, når han siger, at vi bør gå videre.
As a matter of fact, the infor­mation to which I referred is, as I said, contained in an answer given in 1980.
Det forenede Kongerige går helt klart ind for Kommissionens forslag om en harmonisering af afgifterne på vin, og dette bør kædes sammen med afgifterne på andre former for spiritus.
Subject: The location of United Kingdom Inter­vention Stores
De Vries (LDR). — (NL) Har formandskabet taget ad notam, at Det europæiske Råd i konklusionerne fra Det europæiske Råds møde i Haag pålagde Økofin-Rådet med stor energi at behandle afgiftsspørgsmålene?
On the substance of his underlying complaint, we have already dealt with that in answer to an earlier ques­tion.
Eller skal det forbehold, formanden netop kom med, forstås sådan, at det britiske formandskab ikke agter at rette sig efter denne appel fra Det europæiske Råd, og at det britiske formandskab altså ikke agter at give harmoniseringen af afgifter og momssatser høj prioritet?
Of course it is not a sensible conclusion for about 60% of the expenditure of the Community agricul­tural budget to be devoted to the storage and disposal of surpluses.
Spørgsmål nr. 8 af Hutton (H-
OJ No C 168 of 8. 7. 1985, p. 2.
Hoon (S). — (EN) Jeg tror, at Rådets formand har berørt kernen i mit spørgsmål, men — for at få lidt flere detaljer frem — er han enig i, at en harmonisering af toldafgifterne i særdeleshed for øl vil medføre en betragtelig stigning af afgiftsniveauet i visse lande — og jeg tænker naturligvis ligesom han selv på Det forenede Kongerige — og vil en harmonisering af afgifterne ikke medføre en mærkbar forøgelse af prisen på øl i Det forenede Kongerige?
Are the Council of Ministers aware that a serious conflict exists between the European Commission and the United Kingdom Intervention Board for Agricultural Produce over the location of United Kingdom Intervention Stores?
Ifølge Rådets forretningsorden er Rådets drøftelser ikke offentlige, medmindre andet besluttes. Vil Rådet nu ændre denne bestemmelse, således at Parlamentet og offentligheden kan bli ve underrettet om de nationale delegationers holdninger?
The European Commission maintain that the United Kingdom Intervention Board will disclose the exact location of Intervention Stores in the United Kingdom (see answers to MEPs' Written Questions Nos
Regeringsbeslutninger — som jeg ganske vist ind rømmer bliver truffet i fortrolighed — må så vedtages ved afstemning i et demokratisk valgt parlament.
Subject: Excise duties on wine case for the reform of the common agricultural policy to meet the points put by the honourable Member.
Så hans sammen ligning kan da ikke holde?
So to that extent we find ourselves on common ground.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Jeg tror, at man kan fremføre andre argumenter imod det. jeg sagde, men ikke det, som ligger til grund for dette tillægs spørgsmål.
Sir Geoffrey Howe, President-in-Office of the Council. — Over recent years the Council has made some pro gress on the question of excise duties on alcoholic drinks, including wine.
Faktisk bliver der truffet en række beslut ninger i en regering, som normalt ikke bliver taget op eller overvejet af en national lovgivningsmagt.
Most recently, Ecofin considered this issue when discussing the fiscal aspects of the Commission's White Paper on the internal market at its meeting last month.
Nogle af dem kan man så senere sætte spørgsmålstegn ved, men ikke dem alle.
The Council is re-examining existing proposals in this area and will consider further proposals which the Commission may bring forward.
Under drøftelserne i Rådet skal dets medlemmer be stræbe sig på at tilnærme deres respektive holdninger til hinanden i en sådan grad, at den pågældende rets akt kan vedtages.
Mr Elliott (S). — Can the President-in-Office of the Council tell us whether the assurance that he gave that the location of stores in the UK, and no doubt else where, will be made public extends not only to those stores directly under the administrative control of the Commission but also to those commercially owned stores which are used partially for the storage of surplus foods?
Hvis Rådets møder og dets med lemmers holdninger blev offentlige, ville det ofte være vanskeligere at foretage de ændringer i holdningerne, som hvert medlem må foretage for at skabe betingelser for, at Rådet kan træffe en afgørelse. Rå det agter derfor ikke at ændre sin forretningsorden, således som det ærede medlem har foreslået.
I have received a letter from the Intervention Board in the United Kingdom telling me that it cannot disclose the location of certain stores for com mercial reasons, an answer which I find quite unsatisfactory bearing in mind that it is the people of Britain and of Europe who pay for the costs of storing this surplus food that we cannot consume.
Jeg tror ikke, at et angreb på Rådets ret til fortrolighed omkring sine møder er den bedste måde at fremme denne sag på.
Therefore, am I not right in saying that it is discriminatory against spirit and beer-producing coun tries?
Jeg er til stede her i dag, fordi Rådet lægger stor vægt på at holde Parlamentet underrettet om sine afgørel ser.
When I was involved in a television programme recently, the BBC, in carrying out their investigations and filming, were unable to get the same information that I also requested.
Rådet underretter allerede Europa-Parlamentet om sin holdning inden for rammerne af samrådsproceduren og vil ligeledes gøre det inden for rammerne af samarbejdsproceduren, når bestemmelserne i den europæiske fælles akt træder i kraft.
So, can we have an assurance from the President-in-Office of the Council that he will see that the people responsible for administering these stores do in fact make available the information that we have requested?
Hutton (ED). — (EN) Skønt jeg er glad for, at råds formanden er kommet til stede her i Parlamentet, kan han så ikke forstå, at hans svar ikke hjælper os så meget, som Parlamentet kunne ønske?
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — As a matter of fact we ought to be precise about responsibilities here.
Er han ikke enig i, at der er en klar demokratisk forskel mellem medlemsstaternes parlamenter, hvor beslutninger bli ver truffet i al offentlighed, og Rådet, hvor der ikke er offentlighed omkring beslutningsprocessen?
I think that the one character who is not specifically responsible for providing this information is the President-in-Office of the Council.
Er han ikke enig i, at det ville være godt, hvis man under hans formandskab kunne begynde at mindske denne forskel?
It is the Commission which is responsible for identifying the location of intervention centres, and the Commission has done so in the regulation which I cited, No 2006 of 1980.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Jeg må tilstå, at den ved holdende interesse, som et par af de ærede medlem mer fra den fløj i parlamentet fortsat viser for netop dette spørgsmål, stadig forundrer mig.
It is a matter for national governments to decide, or national intervention agencies to decide, whether or not individual stores should be identified or the location of individual stores given.
Hvad angår Rådet, ville det naturligvis være overraskende, hvis bestemmelser om fortrolighed blev fuldt ud overholdt af dette organ, såvel som af ethvert andet organ, hvor man tilstræber, men ikke altid når noget sådant.
The general locations are made public, but details of private concerns having business of this kind with the government or with intervention agencies are normally protected and, it seems to me, understandably so.
De overvejelser, som de deltager i som medlemmer af Rådet, er kvalitativt forskellige fra de overvejelser, man gør sig i et parlament, hvad enten det er et nationalt parlament eller Europa-Parlamentet.
On the other hand, there is the separate question of preventing discriminatory taxation on different forms of alcoholic consumption in any one Member State and in that respect there has been some progress.
Der foregår overvejelser i Rådet, som må være fortrolige, hvis man på effektiv måde skal nå frem til beslutninger. Jeg me ner, at dette er karakteristisk for organer, der har en udøvende snarere end eller samtidig med en lovgivende rolle.
I know that in the case of the United Kingdom, with the budget starting in 1981 through my three subsequent budgets and one more after that, we have, as he says, moved towards eliminating inequities, in the taxation of wine and beer and other forms of alcohol.
Jeg finder parallellen mellem Rådets ar bejde og arbejdet i en national regering mere velvalgt end parallellen mellem Rådets arbejde og arbejdet i et parlament, hvad enten det er et nationalt parlament eller Europa-Parlamentet.
The United Kingdom certainly favours the Commission proposal for a harmonized excise duty on wine, and it should be linked with duties on other alcohol.
De Vries (ARC). — (NL) Selv med bevarelse af for troligheden er det dog et bidrag, det britiske formand skab kunne yde til forbedring af relationerne til Par lamentet og af informationsstrømmen.
Mr Simpson (ED). — I just wonder if the President-in-Office of the Council would join me in advising the two honourable Members who have asked the last two questions that if they cannot find their way around Community legislation, they should employ competent research assistants who can.
Denne mulig hed blev allerede benyttet af det nederlandske for mandskab, og jeg vil spørge det britiske formand skab, om det agter at fortsætte denne praksis.
Mr Hoon (S). — I think the President-in-Office has touched on the essence of my question, but — just to bring out a certain amount of detail — would he accept that harmonization of excise duties, particularly in relation to beer, would involve significant increases in the level of duties in certain countries — and I am obviously thinking, as he has done, of the United Kingdom — and would not a harmonization of duties involve a significant increase in the price of beer in the United Kingdom? Is not the question of excise duties
Jeg sig ter på følgende situation: Rådsformanden vedrørende
President. — Question No 7, by Mr Raftery (H1039/85):
De Vries ikke er tilstrækkelig til at dække behovet i aftagerindustrierne i Fællesskabet.
Hoon best left for the appropriate Chancellor of the Exchequer or his equivalent in other Member States to determine according to national policy?
Hvor stort er det nuværende forbrug i EF, og hvor stort for ventes det at være i 1988?
According to its internal rules of procedure, the Council deliberates in secret unless it decides otherwise.
Medfører en sådan foranstaltning ikke konkurrencefordrejning mellem ATB og de konkurrerende produkter, især bioethanol?
Will the Council now amend this rule so that Parliament and the public may be informed of the positions taken by national delegations?
det interne marked, hr. Van Eekelen, opfordrede på et møde i Rådet vedrørende det interne marked en række parlamentsmedlemmer til at fremføre Parlamentets synspunkter med hensyn til de punkter, der dengang var på dagsordenen.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — I think there is much force in that point if one looks at the wide variations between totally different taxation structures, which mean that some Member States depend heavily on a large yield from the taxation of alcohol in one form or another and others have a totally different pattern.
Mit spørgsmål til for manden for Rådet er: Agter han at fortsætte denne praksis og altså opfordre parlamentsmedlemmer til at komme til stede ved Rådets møder og dér endnu en gang belyse Parlamentets standpunkt?
It is because of that wide divergence and the changes that would be involved in a uniform approximated or harmonized regime that the question has to be considered so care fully. Indeed, it is a question that is being specially considered by Ecofin at the present time.
Sir Geoffrey Howe, formand for Rådet. — (EN) Den fælles toldtarifs anvendelse på tertbutylalkohol var totalt suspenderet fra den 1. juli 1981 til udgangen af marts i år efter en afbrydelse i Fællesskabets produktion.
Sir Geoffrey Howe, President-in-Office of the Council. — In reply to a similar question put by Mr Pearce during the Italian Presidency, my predecessor as President-in-Office of the Council, Mr Forte, said that the proceedings of the Council cannot be judged against the same yardstick as parliamentary proceedings, even when they are concerned with legislative proposals.
1. april i år blev der indført en afgift på 2% og med virkning fra 1. juli 1986 trådte den fulde afgift på 4,6% i kraft.
Under the Treaty, the Council is made up of representatives of the Member States, and these representatives are required to act as spokesmen for their states.
Det nuværende forbrug i Fællesskabet er på ca. 400 000 tons om året.
During Council discussions its members must endeavour to reconcile their respective positions sufficiently to enable the act in question to be adopted.
Rådet mener ikke, at en sådan toldsuspension betyder en krænkelse af EFs konkurrenceregler.
If Council meetings and the positions of its members were made public, the adjustments that individual members would have to make in their positions to enable Council decisions to be adopted would frequently become more difficult.
Eyraud (S). — (FR) Lad mig til oplysning for alle vore kolleger minde om, at tertbutylalkohol (TBA) er et produkt, der fremstilles på basis af kulbrinter, og som kan erstatte bly i benzin for at støtte oktantallet i vejret.
The Council therefore has no intention of amending its rules of procedure in the manner suggested by the honourable Member.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Vi mener ganske afgjort — og jeg håber, det indirekte fremgik af mine be mærkninger ved afslutningen af forhandlingen tidlige re — at det er fordelagtigt at fremme og etablere hyppigere kontakter mellem Rådet og Parlamentet.
Mr Patterson (ED). — Following that question, would the President-in-Office not agree with Lord Cockfield's case in the White Paper on the internal market that it is necessary to harmonize excise duties on wines and other alcoholic beverages in order to get rid of fiscal frontiers?
Mine ministerkolleger og jeg vil som repræsentanter for formandskabet møde næsten alle Deres parlaments udvalg før december.
If he does not agree and if other Member Governments do not agree, would he care to speculate on the cost to the taxpayer of employing customs officials at frontiers merely in order to stop ordinary tourists from bringing more than six bottles of wine back across those frontiers?
Vi vil se på andre måder, hvor på vi kan etablere og fremme den slags kontakter, som jeg har talt om.
I am here today because the United Kingdom Presidency lays great store by keeping your Parliament informed of its decisions.