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Vil Kommissionen give tilsagn om, at der bliver indarbejdet bestemmelser i den tredje kon vention om at fremme forhandlinger om fiskeriaftaler med AVS-lande med adgang til havet, der kan være til fælles fordel på et ikke-diskriminerende grundlag og uden at skade de allerede eksisterende aftaler mellem udviklingslande i samme område, sådan som det også blev krævet i den omtalte beslutning?
Is not the fact that the IDA has not been topped up and the European Member States are economizing in this area a further reason to do something at least in this field, which is our most fundamental responsibility as regards development cooperation? Could you be so kind as to tell us quite clearly once more here today what the Commission thinks is correct and what criteria were taken as the basis for its financing proposal?
Mit andet spørgsmål til kommissionsmedlemmet vedrører befolkningsproblemer.
Mr President, these are the things I wanted to say about what has been achieved or not achieved.
Er kommissionsmedlemmet klar over, at ved FNs konference om befolkningsproblemer fremstod Afrika som et område med særligt akutte befolkningsproblemer?
I would now like to give you some indication of the timetable.
Giver den nye konvention mulighed for at modtage anmodninger om hjælp med disse problemer?
The Lomé issue comes before the informal Council of Foreign Ministers on Saturday of next week in Ireland.
Kuijpers (ARC). — (NL) Hr. formand, hr. kommissionsmedlem, ærede forsamling, tre spørgsmål.
President. — I would point out to the House that, in accordance with Rule 40(2) the statement is not followed by a debate.
Jeg vil gerne vide, hvilke medlemsstater eller hvilke AVS-medlemmer, der har forholdt sig restriktivt ved iværksættelsen af Lomé-III og er imod en forhøjelse af beløbet på 7 milliarder ECU?
Members of Parliament may, how ever, put briefly worded questions for a total of 30 minutes in order to have specific points in the state ment clarified.
For det andet: jeg vil gerne høre fra kommissæren, hvad man mener om råstofpriserne, for det er den hjørnesten, hvorpå hele aftalen hviler.
The two sides hope, despite the difficulties which seem to arise every day — but that is what negotiations are about — that the Lomé Convention will be signed in Lomé on 7 December this year.
For det tredje: har man under forhandlingerne talt om de forskellige verdensmagters indflydelse?
Mr Pannella (NI). — (IT) President, I should like you to help me to understand how Parliament's pro ceedings work.
Hvad var resultatet af de for handlinger?
I have been informed that I was the first one on the list.
Jeg må derfor spørge: kan man i den næste Lomékonvention — selv om det ikke bliver formelt — ind drage den stillingtagen, der udtrykkes i beslutningen fra det rådgivende udvalg, eller benytte den som grundlag for at formulere kriterier for dialogen og for holdet mellem disse to elementer i Lomé III?
President. — For your information, I shall just read the list of speakers in order: Mr Bersani, Mr Christopher Jackson, Mr Trivelli, Mrs Flesch, Mrs Ewing, Mr Kuijpers, Mr Pannella, Mr Turner, Mrs Cinciari Rodano, Mr Chinaud, Mr Guermeur, Mrs Heinrich, Mr de Courcy Ling and Mr Fellermaier.
Pannella (NI). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg regner med at konventioner normalt underskrives mellem frie folk.
Mr Bersani (PPE), President of the ACP-EEC Joint Committee. — (IT) Mr President, I would like to ask Commissioner Pisani the following questions.
Hykleriet består i at vedblive at hævde, at AVS-landene er frie i forhold til os, samtidig med at den internationale politik og lokale realiteter ikke giver dem friheden til at forkaste den almisse og afpresning de er udsat for.
Mrs Focke (S), Chairman of the Committee on Development and Cooperation. — (DE) Mr Pisani, is it possible that the purpose of the many details you have explained was to try and gloss over the real problem currently facing us, i.e. the financing of Lomé III?
Tror kommissæren virkelig, at man for eksempel kan lave en aftale mellem to parter, der er gensidig i underskrivelsesøjeblikket, men hvis gennemførelse er fuldstændig afhængig af den ene parts kultur, institutioner og struktur?
Is it possible that, even though you tell us that negotiations have not yet been broken off or reached dead lock, they have nevertheless got into a serious impasse?
På nuværende tids punkt og med det foreslåede beløb står vor troværdighed på spil.
Do you think it will be possible for the Convention to be signed on the scheduled date, 6 December, if the
Chaboche (DR). — (FR) Jeg vil godt have lov til at stille Dem to spørgsmål, hr. kommissær.
Does he not find it surprising that at the last moment the Council of Ministers is divided — not only on
Endnu et spørgsmål: kan Kommissionen give os mere udtømmende oplysninger om det blandede garantisystem for private investeringer?
North-South relations, and before comparing its relative success with the failures of other international meetings, does the Commissioner think that we shall be able to set ourselves up as an example in future if we do not go beyond an offer of 7 000 million ECU, a figure which does not allow for the population increase over the last 10 years?
Til slut vil jeg gerne have yderligere konkrete og præcise detaljer om kvindens rolle inden for rammerne af konventionens udviklingspolitik.
Does the Commission not think that in the light of this Parliament's clearly defined position, a position con firmed in the joint bodies representing Parliament and the ACP, and in the light of the Council's stance, it should make more strenuous efforts to support an easing of the proposed financial measures?
Chinaud (L). — (FR) Hr. kommissær, ifølge oplysninger, der er fremkommet i faglige tidsskrifter, viser det sig, at AVS-landenes eksportkvota for rom var på omkring 175 000 hektoliter, hvorimod AVS-landene i øjeblikket kun eksporterer 100 000 hektoliter, dvs. ikke mere end 55 % af den mængde, der toldfrit kan komme ind på fællesmarkedet. AVS-landene har al tid kæmpet imod dette kvotasystem som ifølge dem, hindrede dem i at søge andre markeder.
Mr Christopher Jackson (ED). — Does the Commissioner agree that the logic behind efforts to increase ACP exports of manufactured or agricultural products is destroyed unless we make more strenuous efforts to give trade access to EEC markets?
Mener De da ikke, at AVS-landenes vanskeligheder ved at eksportere deres rom snarere er et spørgsmål om kvalitet end om kvotaer?
Is the Commissioner aware that at the UN Conference on population problems Africa emerged as an area of particularly acute difficulty?
For øvrigt angår denne bemærkning ikke kun rom.
Does the new Convention offer the possibility of accepting requests for help with these difficulties?
Turner (ED). — (EN) Den nye konvention indeholder visser klausuler, der vedrører ansøgerlandene til Fællesskabet og AVS-landene.
Mrs Ewing (RDE). — May I ask Commissioner Pisani to give an undertaking that there will be a specific section dealing with cooperation and fisheries in the text of the third Lomé Convention and not just annexes, as this was called for unanimously in the resolution adopted in Luxembourg on 21 September?
For tiden køber Portugal 300 000 tons rørsukker årligt på verdensmarkedet. Jeg spekulerer over, hvorvidt disse 300 000 tons sukker, når Portugal kommer ind i Fællesskabet, bliver overført fra verdensmarkedet for rørsukker til rørsukkermarkedet i Europa, hvilket ville være meget uheldigt for den tredje verdens økonomi.
Will the Commission give an undertaking that provisions will be incorporated into the third Convention to encourage the negotiation of fisheries agreements with ACP coastal States that are mutually beneficial on a nondiscriminatory basis and without prejudice to the existing agreements between developing countries in the same area, as this was also called for in the said resolution?
Ellers må vi overføre 300 000 tons fra verdens markedet for rørsukker til det europæiske roesukkermarked. marked.
I should like to know which Member States or which ACP countries adopted a restrictive position in the negotiations for Lomé III and are against an increase in the amount of 7 000 million ECU.
For det andet, må jeg bede ham bekræfte eller afkræfte, om de vigtigste forslag i ambassadør Chasles kul turrapport faktisk er blevet indlemmet i den nye kon vention?
Secondly, I should like the Commissioner to tell me what the view is on the price of raw materials, since that is the cornerstone of the entire Agreement.
Cinciari Rodano (COM). - (IT) Hr. formand, kom missionsmedlemmet viser sig endnu i dag i alle sine redegørelser ret optimistisk med hensyn til afslutningen. ningen.
Mr Trivelli (COM). — (IT) Mr President, the problem of dialogue is obviously very complex as is evident from the Commissioner's statement, which referred tactfully and somewhat blandly to disagreements on form.
Og mit andet spørgsmål lyder: hvorfor skal kvotaer ne endnu en gang sættes op?
I would like to remind you that the problem of dialogue both at the recent Assembly and in the Joint Committee has a history of dissension.
Hvorfor bliver man ved med at tro at AVS-landenes økonomi kun kan for bedres gennem kvotaer, som om denne forslidte socialistiske metode kunne bruges til at erobre verdens markedet og derigennem forbedre økonomien?
There was a split in opinion during the meeting of the Joint Com mittee and agreement was only reached at the Assembly thanks to a well-balanced recommendation that took as much account of the duties and constraints of Member States as of the responsibility of ACP countries, and which extended the concept of dialogue to that of joint management.
Vi ved jo, at det ikke er sandt. Vort ansvar som udviklede lande består ikke i at påtvinge svagere parter økonomiske politikker, som lider nederlag i flertallet af udviklede lande i vækst.
Thirdly, during the negotiations was there any discussion on the influence of the various world powers?
Det er et aspekt af det grundlæggende problem med at definere en ny udviklingspolitik, som Parlamentet efter min opfattelse bør behandle på ny, om det så sker i forbindelse med Lomé III eller ej.
I mean by this that, although Lomé III is a good thing, its effects are often thwarted by the policies pursued by the United States and the Soviet Union in the ACP countries.
Forstår De, jeg mener, at dette problem er lige så vigtigt som hvor mange midler, der stilles til rådighed for AVS-landene.
What was the result of any discussion on this point?
Mit første spørgsmål er: vil Rådet ændre sin stilling med hensyn til beløbsstørrelsen, eller mener det, at AVS-landene bliver sat i den situation, at de må »drikke eller drukne«, som man siger i mit land, med andre ord : tage hvad der bliver tilbudt eller holde sig væk? Mener man ikke, at udfærdigelsen af aftalen under sådanne betingelser tager noget af glansen fra denne konvention, der altid bliver fremvist som en blomst i Fællesskabets knaphul?
I would like to ask the following question: would it be possible either to adopt the recommendations and positions taken up in the resolution of the recent Consult ative Assembly at the next Lomé Convention (even if not in formal terms) or to use them as a basis on which to formulate the criteria for dialogue and for the relationship between the two bodies at the third Lomé Convention?
Guermeur (RDE). — (FR) Hr. formand, vi ved, at visse lande nægtede at gå ud over grænsen på 7 mia ECU, og at andre bad om, at deres andel blev skåret ned.
Mr Pannella (NI). — (FR) I believe, Mr President, that agreements are signed between free parties.
Det andet spørgsmål er, hr. formand, om man i for handlingerne om fællesmarkedets udvidelse har tænkt på at rådspørge AVS-landede angående indholdet i tiltrædelsestraktaten, eftersom denne traktat vil få vidtrækkende betydning for AVS-landenes eksport?
It is hypocritical to keep on stating that the ACP countries are free in their relations with us while international politics and local realities do not give them the liberty to refuse the alms from those who grant them, or the blackmail that accompanies them.
For det andet: kan eller vil Kommissionen sætte sig i bevægelse, så Rådets holdning bliver ændret?
Mrs Hesch (L). — (FR) Mr President, the main problem is obviously that of the amount of money involved.
Er Kommissionen parat til at tage stilling til det problem, der i dag eksisterer mellem Den europæiske Udviklingsfond og de enkelte landes bilaterale støtteaktioner?
At the present stage and with the amount proposed, our credibility is at stake.
Der er ikke her tale om et problem, der er økonomisk fuldstændig umuligt. Det er et problem om det politiske valg, på fællesskabsniveau eller ej, og derfor drejer det sig om et operativt problem, dvs. at man handler ifølge disse eller hine politiske betingelser.
We have stated time and time again that Lomé was a model of
Er det ikke i Kommissionens interesse sammen med Rådet at bore ned i spørgsmålet om den bilaterale støtte, der er privilegeret i forhold til Den europæiske Udviklingsfond?
Does the Commissioner really believe that it is possible to hold up as an example an agreement between two
Et andet og sidste spørgsmål: har Kommissionen undersøgt, hvorvidt en åbning især af landbrugsmarkederne i Det europæiske Fællesskab — hvilket AVS-landene kun kan hilse velkommen — ville medføre en revision af aftalerne med Machrak- og Maghreblandene?
I should also like to ask whether the Commission can give us more detailed information on the joint guarantee system for private investment.
Tredje og sidste spørgsmål, hr. formand, det system der blev vedtaget m.h.t. nødhjælpen var en ekstraordinær bevilling ifølge artikel 958 i budgettet.
Mr Chaboche (DR). — (FR) Mr Commissioner, I should like to ask you two questions.
Hvad vil der i løbet af 1985 ske med nødhjælpen til de lande, der får brug for den?
The first con cerns sales of dairy products to ACP countries.
For øvrigt eftersom EUF selv følgelig kun sørger for nødhjælp til de associerede AVS-lande, hvad sker der så med de andre, der ikke er associerede?
In 1980 the EEC sold 577 million tonnes; 571 million in 1981, 550.4 million in 1982 and 367.8 million in 1983.
Vil man opgive enhver nødhjælp til deres fordel?
What are the reasons for this decrease?
Pearce (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, vil den nye kon vention give Kommissionen tilstrækkelig myndighed til på passende vis at rådgive de modtagerlande i hvilke der hersker problemer med korruption og dårlig økonomisk ledelse, således at dette ikke forringer værdien af den støtte de får fra Det europæiske økonomiske Fællesskab?
Lastly, I should like to have more specific and accurate details on the role of women in development policy under the Convention.
Mit spørgsmål er, hvad gør Det europæiske Fælles skab for at ændre de strukturer, der i stor udstrækning er årsag til de forhold, nemlig sulten og miljøproblemerne, der skal ændres?
I should also like to ask you about the progress of the negotiations being conducted under Lomé III with a view to guaranteeing investments in the countries receiving our aid.
Angående flygtningene — og jeg forstår godt hvorfor hr. Pisani var så vag — har vi i udvalget om udvikling og samarbejde fremsat meget præcise forslag om at behandle flygtningeproblematikken inden for rammerne af de regionale projekter. Jeg vil godt have at vide hvor langt man er kommet med disse forslag.
I am concerned as to whether, when Portugal accedes to the EEC, these 300 000 tonnes of sugar will be transferred from the world cane-sugar market to the beet-sugar market of Europe, which would be very undesirable for the economy of the Third World.
For øvrigt hvilken garanti gives den tredje verdens studerende, og særlig dem fra AVS-landene, for at de kan fortsætte de uddannelser, som de ikke kan få i deres egne lande, og angående hvilke de industrialiserede lande indtil for kort tid siden førte den åbne dørs politik.
Mr Chinaud (L). — (FR) Mr Commissioner, accord ing to the information published in the specialized press, it seems that the export quota for ACP rum was about 175 000 hectolitres, but it ought to be pointed out that at the moment the ACP countries only export 100 000 hectolitres, only 55% of the quota authorized to enter the Common Market free of customs duty.
de Courcy Ling (ED). — (EN) Vil kommissionsmedlemmet forsøge at definere det minimumsniveau af velstand, der skal findes i et udviklingsland, før privat investering kan komme i betragtning?
The ACP countries have always protested against this quota system, which they feel prevents them from exploring new markets. However, the statistics do not seem to prove them right since they only use a little more than half their quotas.
Han nævnede det private initiativ i sin udmærkede erklæring.
As you know, it is not enough to have export quotas, you also need to sell a product which appeals to consumers.
Men er han ikke være enig i, at privat investering i lande, der er så fattige som f.eks.
So do you not think that the problems encountered by the ACP countries in exporting their rum is a problem of quality rather than of quotas?
Tanzania, Tchad eller Niger, næppe kan komme i betragtning?
And this remark also applies to products other than rum.
For det andet: vil han være så venlig at sige, om der i kon ventionen bliver indføjet garantier mod ekspropriation af fællesskabsinvesteringer og garantier for overførelsen af udbyttet fra de investerende virksomheder? heder?
Secondly, may I ask him to state whether or not the major proposals of Ambassador Chasle's reports on culture have, in fact, been included in the new Con vention?
Hvor stor en procentdel af bruttonationalproduktet udgør støtten til AVS-landene?
Secondly, I should like to ask why export quotas need to be increased again.
Når jeg siger bruttonationalproduktet, så mener jeg hele Fæl lesskabets bruttonationalprodukt.
Why keep on pretending that the economies of the ACP countries can only progress by means of quotas, as if this well-worn Socialist method made it possible to conquer world markets and, by the same token, to develop the economy? We are well aware that this is not true.
Hvor stor en procentdel udgør støtten til andre udviklingslande uden for AVS-landene?
The responsibility which we as developed countries have does not consist in imposing on the weakest countries economic policies which are on the way out in most developed and progressing countries.
For det tredje: hvor stor er støtten fra medlemslandene ud over den, der ydes inden for rammerne af Lomé, til samtlige udviklingslande? Disse tre tal ville give os et samlet billede.
This is one aspect of the basic problem of defining a new development policy which, in my opinion, this House should deal with again, whether in connection with Lomé III or not.
Jeg min- ' des, at UNCTAD regnede med, at 1 % af alle dets medlemslandes bruttonationalprodukt skulle gå til støtte til udviklinslande.
The first question I should like to ask is the following: will the Council change its position on the amount or does it consider that the ACP countries will be placed in a situation where they must 'drink or drown', as we say in my country, i.e. take it or leave it?
Jeg gad vidst, om den virke lig kommer op på 1 %.
Is it not the case that the signing of the Agreement in this way removes the gloss from this Convention, which is always held up as a shining example of the Com munity's achievements?
Fellermaier (S). — (DE) Hr. kommissær Pisani, tillad mig endnu engang at vende tilbage til fondens finansielle midler.
Secondly, is the Commission able or does it intend to take action to bring about a change in the Council's
De Gucht (L). — (NL) Hr. kommissionsmedlem, er det rigtigt, at der blandt europæere egentlig findes to holdninger: én hvor man går ind for større økonomisk hjælp, og én hvor man går ind for lettere adgang til de europæiske markeder?
Mr Guermeur (RDR). — (FR) Mr President, we know that some countries have refused to go beyond the limit of 7 000 million ECU and that others have
Formanden. — Hr. De Gucht var den sidste af nøjagtigt 20 spørgere.
Guermeur asked for their share to be reduced.
Eftersom hver har stillet i gennem snit tre spørgsmål, har De, hr. Pisani, tres spørgsmål at vælge i mellem.
This being so, are we to understand that there is to be no compensation for the terms of trade or even for inflation, that when Mozambique and Angola join, the overall share will be smaller, and that when Spain and Portugal join the Common Market, the share of each member of the Community will also be smaller?
Kommissionen skal holde sig til den regel der siger, at der ikke kan forhandles om det ydede beløb. Men den skal også inden for de institutionelle rammer del tage i udarbejdelsen af politikkerne og fremsætte for slag.
world inflation in the previous amount allotted to the Development Fund and how, with further inflation forecast all over the world, this must have just as negative effects at the end of the Sixth Fund as in the case of the Fifth.
Kommissionen forsøger, samtidig med at den tager højde for AVS-landenes holdninger, at nå frem til enighed både hvad angår beløbet og teksten.
Then what is now an abstract number will probably become a completely different number, since it will prove that the promises of the individual national governments at the beginning of the negotiations were very different from their promises now that the negotiations are coming to an end and resources must be allocated to the Fund according to certain criteria. teria.
Hr. Pannella spurgte mig angående dette, om jeg var tilfreds med den måde, hvorpå disse forhandlinger føres med den måde hvorpå alle denne slags forhandlinger føres og om jeg var i stand til at sige, at de forhandlinger der er blevet ført mellem AVS-landene og Det europæiske økonomiske Fællesskab har været ført mellem ligemænd eller ej.
Secondly, Mr President, in the negotiations on the enlargement of the Common Market is it planned to consult the ACP countries on the content of the accession treaty, since this treaty will very greatly affect exports from ACP countries?
Den eneste hage er, at hvis jeg var så over modig at ville svare på alle spørgsmål, der er blevet stillet mig, så ville jeg blive nødt til at bede Dem udsætte Deres frokost, hvilket jeg selvfølgelig er for høflig til at ville gøre. For øvrigt ville Deres tidsplan ikke tillade mig det.
Secondly and lastly, has the Commission examined to what extent a further opening up of mainly agricultural markets in the European Community — much to be welcomed from the point of view of the ACP countries — would entail a revision of the agreements with the Mashreq and Maghreb countries?
Hr. formand, jeg tager derfor et par af de spørgsmål op, som jeg mener — måske tager jeg fejl — er de vigtigste.
Thirdly and lastly, Mr President, the system which was adopted to deal with emergency aid was an extraordinary item in Article 958 of the budget.
De har mere brug for os, end vi mener at have brug for dem.
What is to happen in 1985 with regard to emergency aid to countries in difficulty?
Men på trods af denne endegyldige sandhed blandt mange andre i verden, mener jeg, at Lomé-konven-tionen er et stort fremskridt i forhold til mangen en bilateral støtte og i forhold til mangen en beslutning, der tages af multilaterale organisationer.
Furthermore, since the EDF will obviously include only the associated ACP countries in emergency aid, what about the others which are not associated?
Jeg er derfor fuldstændig — for nu at svare ganske præcist på hr. Pannellas spørgsmål — klar over både som menneske og som borger, at det vil vare længe før vi får ligebyrdige forhandlinger.
Mrs Heinrich (ARC). — (DE) Mr President, it has been said that food, agriculture and preventing the spread of deserts are to have priority.
Men jeg er lige så vel klar over, at Det europæiske økonomiske Fælles skab har oprettet et system, der er det bedste af de allerede eksisterende i verden.
What is the European Community doing to change the structures which are the main causes of those things which are to be changed, namely hunger and environmental problems? Another problem is development aid.