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Det er det, vi trænger til.
So we in the British Labour Group will oppose the proposal to put the British rebate in reserve.
Her refererer jeg til, hvad fru Castle sagde.
Let us stop a moment and think about what those two sections reveal.
Jeg synes, det er mærkeligt, at hun, når hun smukt og klart har formuleret sine betingelser, ikke viser sin kollega, hr. Arndt, det hensyn omhyggeligt at læse, hvad der står i hans beslutningsforslag.
Despite all the talk in the past four years about the need to get a better balance in our budgetary expenditure between agriculture, industry, new technology, regional develop ment, we are not progressing ; we are going back wards.
Alle disse henvisninger findes i betænkningen såvel som en meget tydelig erklæring i punkt 24.
In 1982, agriculture took 56.2 of the budget; in 1983 it took 61.4 and it is estimated in the Council draft that it will take 66.4 in 1984.
Hvad angår problemet med de rige og de fattige medlemslande, så gik Kommissionens forslag kun ud på, at den sidste lille del af momsen skulle differentieres.
As the motion for a resolution now in front of us says, the sharp increase in agricultural spending has meant drastic cuts in the fields of social and regional policy.
Hr. Arndts forslag går langt videre ved at differentiere grundlaget. Jeg tror, at dette er meget
It points out also — again I am quoting the report — that since the entry into force of the Treaty of Rome,
Den tedje, betingelse, hvad angår den manglende balance mellem det nødvendige og spildet, tager betænkningen efter vor mening også fat på. Det, at
You know, Mr President, it is absurd even to be contemplating an increase in the Community's own resources at the present time. You know you do not give more money to an unreconstructed delinquent.
Europa-Parlam en tets forhandlinger
Debates of the European Parliament
Prie fra fællesskabsbudgettet, eftersom vi allerede har rene fordele af det. Vi deler ikke denne opfattelse og langt mindre deres optimisme.
We had it in the last Arndt report, calling for the harmonization of VAT policy throughout the Community.
Det, der er vigtigt, er at få denne sektor under kontrol.
We cannot, because we think the second half does not follow logically from the first.
Ved at fastsætte i bestemmelserne om den differentierede moms, at de nu skal betale en større del af regningen, får Vi reel motivation og ikke bare gentagelser af kravet om, at den manglende balance skal afhjælpes.
But the next minute it announces that it considers the Commission's proposals for an increase in VAT yield to be satisfactory and merely calls for an assurance that the additional money will be spent on new policies.
Vi mener imidlertid, at vi vil komme til at bøde hårdt for denne forhøjelse, da den er et skridt henimod Fællesskabets økonomiske integration, og følgerne af denne integration er særdeles negative for vort land.
But that is a non sequitur, particularly in the light of that brillant speech made by my colleague, Mr Arndt, in which he said that only harsh and drastic measures within the existing resources can really give us the reforms we need.
Således kan vi ikke tro, at en øget finansiering vil bevirke en omfordeling af midlerne til fordel for de lande, som står i anden række, da det er velkendt — hvilket også Arndtbetænkningen viser — at ændringen af finansieringssystemet har relation til 30. maj mandatet, som er et resultat af problemet med det britiske bidrag, som nu også er blevet til et problem med det vesttyske bidrag.
He warned us, very rightly, that voting more money is not going to solve the problem of the British contribution or the problem of the future financing of the Community.
Midlerne skal altså omfordeles, men ikke til gavn for lande som Grækenland. land.
It is going to take years and years, even if we have more resources, for it to have any effect on Britain's situation. tion.
Et andet problem er, at selv om der vil ske en forhøjelse af indtægterne fra fællesskabsbudgettet, vil disse midler ikke være nationale. Det vil ikke være midler, som indgår i vort nationale budget og finansierer arbejder i overensstemmelse med en national udvik lingsplanlægning.
Mr Simonnet (PPE). — (FR) Mr President, we have two reports here — one from the Committee on Budgets and one from the Committee on Agriculture — on a Commission proposal to alter the financing of the Community and I should like to say that, as soon as we read them, we find ourselves in a paradoxical situation.
Men vi får ikke disse ekstra indtægter, hvis vi ikke vedtager en realistisk beslutning, og hvis vi ikke erkender, at forudsætningerne er af afgørende betydning.
I am sick of hearing people in this Parliament saying they do not believe in juste retour, etc.
Som svar på, hvad hr. Simonnet sagde tidligere om den megen opmærksomhed, der var viet udgiftssiden, vil jeg sige, at disse garantier er en meget væsentlig del af beslutningsforslaget, og at det er grunden til, at de har fået så megen opmærksomhed.
What they mean is they are out to get as much for their country as they possibly can. But I admire paragraph 8 because it puts it in a entirely different context.
Det er et afbalanceret forslag til beslutning, og jeg håber, at Parlamentet ikke ved sine ændringsforslag vil forsøge at ødelægge denne balance.
It deals with unacceptable situations for Member States, situations which, it has been declared time and again, we cannot tolerate.
På den baggrund og ud fra denne tankegang og disse betingelser er Grækenlands kommunistiske parti imod en øget finansiering af Fællesskabet og vil stemme imod Arndtbetænkningen.
As soon as we were elected by direct universal suffrage, we realized that the Community could not do all it should because it did not have enough resources.
Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Hr. formand, der er visse positive træk ved Arndt-betænkningen, blandt andet at den tager de enkelte medlemslandes bidrag til budgettet, deres generelle økonomiske konstitution og generelle fordele og mangler i betragtning.
And the Committee on Budgets — and I congratulate it for this — took the initiative and called a small sub-committee, chaired by Mr Spinelli (with, in particular, Mr Barbi), to look into the Community's own resources. And this sub-committee said there was only one answer — go beyond the 1 % ceiling.
Delatte (L). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, Arndtbetænkningen om Fællesskabets fremtidige finansiering tillader os at uddybe vore overvejelser om nødvendigheden af at finde ud af, hvordan man kan forbedre fællesskabsbudgettet.
So we reject the complicated formulae for adjusting VAT yield to try and deal with this mismatch in complicated ways which will keep one Summit after another arguing for years and years.
Europa-Parlamentets budgetmæssige beføjelser er betydelige.
We do not like this pathetic clinging to the concept of own resources.
Parlamentet træffer afgørelser og vedtager, gennem sin formand, afgørelserne om udgifterne.
The VAT yield is irrelevant to the economic situation and ability to pay of a Member State.
Men den, der siger udgifter, siger først indtægter, og Parlamentet kan på dette punkt kun stille forslag.
And now here we have the Commission of the European Communities presenting us with a draft along Parliament's lines — which is to say the Commission is proposing to increase income in three stages.
Det er i øvrigt det, man finder i forslagene om forhøjelse af loftet for moms bidragene til fællesskabsbudgettet hvilket forekommer
No doubt you are saying that the Committee on Budgets has got what it wanted at last and it will be congratulating the Commission, approving its plan and calling on the House to follow suit. But you are wrong.
Delatte mig at være helt uomgængelig nødvendigt, som hr. Simonnet i øvrigt sagde det for lidt siden.
Simonnet we hope that, this time, the report on the financing of the Community will be accepted.
Men jeg er forbavset over, at hr. Arndt ikke har overtaget Kommissionens forslag om at skabe nye indtægter gennem afgiften på vegetabilske fedtstoffer.
But expenditure, well, we are going to do something about that.
Dette ville være i overens stemmelse med GATT-bestemmelserne, for så vidt som de europæiske producenter pålægges en medansvarsafgift.
And, taking the Council's position, the Committee on Budgets says that, basically, what we have to do is cut spending and in a report of about 30 paragraphs, there are 20 or so on cutting spending and barely 10 on increasing income.
tionspotentiel, som Europa i høj grad har brug for.
It's upside down, I tell you.
Så lad os endelig høre op med disse anklager, som intet konstruktivt indeholder og ikke gør det muligt at orientere sig i retning af holdbare løsninger.
The Committee on Budgets has adopted a report which says the opposite of everything it has said so far.
For at fremme Europas udvikling er det nødvendigt at skaffe sig midlerne hertil.
Mr Arndt (S). — (FR) No ... it's the same thing ..
I øvrigt betyder det at formindske landbrugsudgifterne, som ordføreren, hr. Arndt, kræver det, for at virkeliggøre anden politik, at man foreslår at låne hos Per for at betale Poul.
I shall now give you one or two examples to show that everything I have said is in fact in the resolution. Take paragraph 33.
Selv om besparelser er mulige ved nedskæring af udgifterne til afsætning af visse overskud, bør man fortsætte bestræbelserne på at fremme udviklingen af underskudsproduktion.
As I told you, the Commission proposes three stages — a 0.4% stage, by inter-state procedure, and two further 0.4% stages, but this time by Community procedure.
Og jeg tror ikke, at det er rimeligt at regne med en nedsættelse af landbrugsbudgettet. gettet.
I shall be coming back to this. What does the Committee on Budgets have to say about this ?
Idet Arndtbetænkningen ganske særligt sigter på landbruget gennem budgettet, rejser den problemet på dårlige forudsætninger.
It thinks it is pointless and superfluous, as things stand, to discuss the organization of the procedure to be used for further increases in the VAT ceiling.
Jeg ved, at vore partnere på den anden side af Atlanterhavet også har økonomiske problemer at løse, og især landbrugsproblemer.
And in four or five years' time, we will have to start the same procedure, that takes years and years, all over again.
Men Europas underskud over for USA i handelen med landbrugs- og føde varer, der beløber sig til 7 mia dollars, tvinger os til at holde fast ved udviklingen af vort landbrugspotentiel.
And it will only take the Danish Folketing to say no, as it did for the common fisheries policy, and the Community will get no extra own resources at all.
Jeg erindrer om, at forøgelsen af det europæiske budget ikke betyder en forøgelse af skatte- eller afgiftstrykket.
Mr Simonnet (PPE). — (FR) Fortunately, with the Committee on Budgets taking such a frequent hand in agriculture, for once the Committee on Agriculture has taken a hand in finances. And it has made a very good job of it.
Det drejer sig om at overføre en del af de nationale budgetter til Europa med det formål at opnå en bedre samordning af aktiviteterne.
It has given details of all the proposals and done so far better than the Committee on. Budgets — and it has reached conclusions that are more in keeping with what Parliament has always said.
Europa kan ikke, uden begrænsning og afgiftsfrit, fortsætte med at importere varer udefra, som på deres side fremkalder overskud, som så eksporteres med støtte fra budgettet.
We cannot do otherwise because the 1970 agreement has to be changed, but we shall not just plan for a first stage of 0.4%.
Det er her, det sande problem ligger, og jeg kan ikke tro, at man nogle få overskudslandé imellem — der er så få af dem i verden — ikke kan finde en løsning, nødvendigvis gennem dialog, samråd og i sidste ende indgåelse af aftaler.
We shall also provide — this is the most impor tant thing and it is what the Committee on Budgets is refusing to entertain — for a Community spending increase procedure instead of an inter-State one.
Hr. formand, det var de få tanker, jeg gerne ville fremføre.
Naturally the Commission is taking every precaution — a unanimous vote in the Council and a qualified majority in the House —and revenue will not be increased on impulse.
Man må ikke glemme, at Fællesskabets fremtidige finansiering vil nødvendiggøre en forøgelse af budgetindtægterne, hvis vi — det må være vor ambition — ønsker at opbygge »et Europa af anden generation«.
So, to conclude, if, contrary to the proposals of the Committee on Budgets, this House goes along with the Commission of the European Communities, then the increase in revenue will be decided not by an inter-state act over which we have no control, but by a Community act in which Parliament has the fullest powers.
Da hr. Rossi for lidt siden gav udtryk for den liberale gruppes holdning til Arndt-betænkningen, vil jeg gerne gøre en generel overvejelse om landbruget gældende.
The ideas of the Committee on Budgets have been abandoned. It is not accepting a big increase in Community financing that it called for before and that the Commission of the European Communities is now suggesting.
Først og fremmest må man tillægge tingene deres rette værdi.
But it is, on the other hand, doing what the Council does and saying that, basically, everything will be all right if we cut our spending.
Hvis man ser på landbrugsudgifternes andel af det almindelige budget, konstaterer man, at den mellem 1979 og 1984 er nedskåret med 12 %.
But what sort of influence do you think we will have on the Council of Athens with a position of that sort ?
For at gøre sig det klart er det tilstrækkeligt at se på de tal, Kommissionen selv kommer med. Nu nævner hr. Arndt i punkt 3 i den foreliggende betænkning forskellige procentsatser, idet han sammenligner gode år for EUGFL med mindre gode år.
Once we have said amen to the Council proposal, when the Council has to choose between the Commission, that suggests increasing revenue, and the European Parliament, that suggests we should simply cut down on our spending, it will come down in favour of Parliament, that other branch of the budgetary authority.
Det giver et fuldstændig alarmerende og urimeligt billede, eftersom, præciserer jeg, EUGFLs andel af det almindelige budget er faldet fra 73,8 % i 1979 til 61,8 % for 1984.
We will thus have lost a claim we have always wanted — an increase beyond the 1% VAT.
Pesmazoglou (NI). — (GR) Hr. formand, forhand lingen er historisk, både hvad angår de umiddelbare problemer og i relation til Det europæiske Fælles skabs videre perspektiver.
There is no need for me to tell you what our choice is and I hope this House will come down in favour of increasing own resources, of increasing its budgetary powers and of developing the Community.
Jeg erkender nødvendigheden af at revidere den fælles landbrugspolitiks funktion, men lad os ikke glemme, at den blev udformet til en periode, hvor vi havde underskud, hvilket ikke længere er tilfældet i dag.
That system means that only two out of ten Member States make any significant net contribution to the budget.
Takket være landbrugets opsigtsvækkende udvik ling er faktisk ikke alene europæernes fødevareforsyning sikret, men vi udnytter også et naturligt produk-
One of those two States is one of the poorest of the Community, and if we have the acces-
Jeg vil først, hr. formand, understrege den meget store betydning af hr. Arndts betænkning, som han har udarbejdet for budgetudvalget.
That is the paradox. So it will be clear to you that I cannot accept the Arndt report and that, if it is not profoundly changed by amendments, we will vote against it as it destroys everything we have tried to do over the past four years.
Jeg vil endvidere bemærke, at de grundlæggende principper og retningslinjer i denne betænkning falder sammen med principperne og retningslinjerne i Kommissionens betænkning. Og det nævner jeg som et typisk positivt træk ved forhandlingerne i dag.
If, on the other hand, Parliament agrees to the Committee on Agriculture's amendments and if it accepts a certain number of points of view in the name of which the amendments were tabled by various Members, including me, then
Et tegn på dette er blandt andet lord Douros erklæring på den europæiske demokratiske gruppes vegne om, at en forhøjelse af Det europæiske Fælles skabs indtægter også i Storbritannien anses for rimelig og nødvendig.
That imbalance must be redressed, and this is an essential precondition for achieving our object.
Der er derfor i disse lande, men også mere generelt, behov for, at vi foretager en omstrukturering af landbrugssektoren.
sion of Spain and Portugal, we shall have a third net contributor amongst the very poorest.
Derfor bør udgifterne til omstruktureringen af landbruget holdes på et højt niveau og forhøjes, hvis vi ønsker at gennemføre en restaurering af vor fælles landbrugspolitik.
Most of the budget is spent on one single policy and, worse still, almost half our entire budget goes on agricultural products which we do not need and do not want.
Det vil være et meget positivt budskab, positivt for Det europæiske Fællesskab og for vore folk.
It is also essential, however, in order to get the increase through the national parliaments.
For det femte er et typisk kendetegn ved disse perifere lande og især middelhavslandene det lille jord brug, og derfor kræves der særlige, effektive foran staltninger til beskyttelse af de små producenter samt af producenterne i ugunstigt stillede områder som bjergområder og øer.
Mr von der Vring in his speech earlier drew attention to what the Bundestag or the House of Commons, or indeed several of the other national parliaments, would be likely to approve.
Med disse modifikationer vil vi opnå en væsentlig reduktion af den samlede udgift til landbruget.
It is quite clear that without that precondition there is no hope of any increase in the VAT ceiling.
Til sidst, hr. formand, vil jeg sige, at jeg er helt uenig i Arndt-betænkningens punkt 33, hvorimod jeg er enig i Kommissionens forslag, som hr. Simonnet også nævnte.
At this point I refer to what Mrs Castle said. I find it curious that, having set out very clearly and very eloquently what her conditions are, she has not gone on to do her colleague Mr Arndt the favour of reading carefully what is in his resolution.
Vi er nødt til at regne med fremtiden, vor beslutning er nødt til at indeholde muligheden af en fremtidig forhøjelse udover 1,4% af merværdiafgiften samt den fremgangsmåde, der skal anvendes.
The precondition is there ; it is entrenched there. And if she looks further she will find it also referred to in recital A ; she will find it in paragraph 13 and paragraph 17.
De nationale parlamenters beføjelser må begrænses og Europa-Parlamentets beføjelser udvides.
All these references are there in the report as well as a very clear statement in paragraph 24.
Vi er nødt til at tage disse skridt, for at vor beslutning kan opnå større troværdighed og kraft, hvad angår den fremtidige udvikling i Det europæiske Fællesskab.
We, on this side, could not, in any circumstances, support an increase in the VAT ceiling if we thought that what was going to happen was simply to pour it down the drain on surpluses of agricultural production that the Community does not need and does not want.
Der kan for eksempel ske det, at lande, der betaler mere til budgettet, end de modtager, har andre væsentlige fordele, og her tænker jeg naturligvis specielt på Forbundsrepublikken Tyskland.
Of course it would be far easier if we were starting at the beginning, without an existing system, to sit down and devise a system which was the best of all possible.
Såby (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, her umiddelbart inden topmødet i Athen bliver Europa-Parlamentets forhandlinger om Fællesskabets fremtidige finansiering af ret usædvanlig betydning.
It tackles the imbalance between the richer and the poorer Member States, the imbalance between agriculture and other policies, and the imbalance between the essentials and the wastage.
Min anden kommentar er, at vi på alle punkter i de aktuelle beslutninger kan støtte os til gennemsnitsindtægten per capita. På trods af dens svagheder er det en væsentlig indeks, og differentieringen af merværdiafgiftsandelen i Fællesskabets budget kan baseres udelukkende på forskellene i indtægt per capita, og derfor er hr. Arndts forslag vedrørende dette spørgsmål helt korrekte og meget væsentlige.
The Arndt resolution tries to tackle these problems comprehensively, because we all know that what we have been bedevilled with in recent years is ad hoc solutions year by year which have been a source of division to this Community and have prevented us tackling effectively the world economic recession and bringing our Community round to taking the measures that it might have taken to realize its possibilities in that direction.
Det betyder også at erkende forbindelsen og overlapningen mellem den fælles landbrugspolitik og dens reform, udvidelsen af Fællesskabet til Spanien og Portugal, det britiske bidrag og den nye politik, der er nødvendig, men også mulig, og som vi må udvikle, f.eks. Europa som et industri- og forskningsområde.
I believe that that is very important for avoiding these annual disputes, because if all you modulate is the top slice you throw the burden redressing the imbalances on to the expenditure side of the budget.
Den tredje bemærkning, jeg vil komme med, vedrører den fælles landbrugspolitik.
That means that each year there will be a dispute over it.
Det, vi er nødt til at gøre os klart, er især følgende: for det første er den fælles landbrugspolitik ikke gået tabt; tværtimod kan man overbevise sig om dens betydning, om vigtigheden af at holde fast ved den og fællesskabspræferencen for landbrugsprodukterne.
If you can throw a larger part of the responsibility for redressing the richer-poorer imbalance onto the revenue side of the budget by an automatic mechanism, then so long as that mechanism remains in place you do not have the dispute. That, for me, is why it is important to modulate the basic rate of VAT, not merely the top tranche of it.
For det andet bør vi nå frem til en begrænsning af midlerne til de permanente overskud.
The third condition relating to the imbalance between essentials and wastage is, we feel, also addressed.
Dette er absolut påkrævet og indebærer en væsentlig reorganisering af den fælles landbrugspolitik.
The Committee on Budget's suggestion, of focusing attention on the Member States' share of agricultural surpluses, rather than on just their share of production, also helps to focus on this point.
Vi takker hr. Arndt, fordi han har været så venlig at tage hensyn til en række ændringsforslag, vi har stillet.
But that, I believe, is less important, a point of detail in the modulation, as to whether you base your calculations on the share of agricultural production as a whole or the share of the surplus. That is a point of detail.
Og vi finder i hans betænkning meget positive punkter: det er rigtigt, at forhøjelsen af momssatsen i dag er en nødvendighed, og at den ikke må foretages på ligegyldig hvilke betingelser og med henblik på ligegyldig hvilke mål; tillægsbevillingerne til ny politik er også en nødvendighed, men også her er det nødvendigt, at politikken godtages af De Ti, og at den defineres nøjere.
What is important is to get some control over that sector. If Member States take a real interest, for the first time, in trying to contain agricultural spending because they will have to pay a larger proportion of it, that is a way of starting to redress the situation which Commissioner Tugendhat has compared many times to a shared-costs meal in which everyone orders the most expensive dish because he does not have to pay.
For det tredje bør der ikke ske nogen differentiering med hensyn til merværdiafgiftssatsen på grundlag af, hvor meget hvert enkelt land modtager fra EUGFL, og her er jeg enig i, hvad hr. de la Malene for lidt siden sagde.
If we look at the Arndt resolution as it stands — and I say 'as it stands' because it is very important that it is not destroyed by amendment — we shall find that it offers the Community the hope that most of us have been looking for in our work in this Parliament during the past four years — the hope that we can develop the Community ; that it will have sufficient resources to put behind the policies that we have been