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Hvis jeg kan forstå de fleste ærede medlemmers indlæg således, at der i dag anmodes om et politisk signal fra rådsformandskabet om, at det tillægger sagen stor betydning, at vi ønsker at intensivere drøftelsen herom på rådsniveau for at se, hvorledes der kan bygges bro over de forskellige opfattelser, vil jeg gerne i dag give dette politiske sig nal i positiv forstand.
Other initiatives, such as the resolution proposed by Mr Bonino and others, to whom I am naturally not opposed, appear at this stage superfluous, because they do not add any­thing whatever to what Parliament has already decided.
Det vil sige, at jeg vil henvende mig til Kommissionen, som faktisk også allerede sidste år under Parlamentets forhandling i juni havde lovet at ville drøfte denne sag nærmere og at ville komme med nye initiativer med anmodning om, al den forelægger Rådet en situationsberetning og angiver, hvor problemerne ligger, og i den sammenhæng forelægger forslag om, hvorledes Kommissionen me ner, at disse problemer kan løses.
There is no need for me to stress once again how important it is in the eyes of our citizens to be able to travel more freely, or indeed how important it was at the time when this subject was broached, first in 1984 and then in 1985, when it was already being argued that, with the holiday period coming up, the many Community citizens who would be travelling from country to country over the next few months would welcome the opportunity to do so much more freely.
Michelini (PPE). — (IT) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, repræsentanterne for de forskellige partier har en stemmigt fremhævet, hvor betydningsfuldt spørgsmå let om de grundlæggende rettigheder er i den euro pæiske politik, ligesom de — skønt de erkender van skelighederne derved — har fordømt, at Kommissionen ikke har taget et klart initiativ.
It seems to me that we should await a new, appro­priate initiative by the Commission, which everyone here today has acknowledged to be a necessary preli­minary. Parliament must then be prepared to play its part in full, delivering its verdict on definite proposals designed to enable accession, which is for the moment only something that we look forward to with keen expectation, to become a solid legal reality.
Jeg takker Rådets formand for det positive politiske signal, han har givet.
President. — The debate is closed.
Problemet må løses, og det må blive Rådets og Kommissionens ansvar.
The motion for a resolution is accordingly referred to the committee responsible.
Jeg håber, at Parlamentet efter denne tydelige hen sigtserklæring fra min side vil tage til efterretning, at Rådet for alvor vil fremme denne sag.
It seems, however, that this political will has evapor­ated all of a sudden. A text was duly prepared by the Commission, as requested by the summit.
Efter at have hørt indlæggene i dag er det måske også formålstjenligt at jeg giver udtryk for min egen overbevisning om, at beskyttelse af menneskerettighederne i Fælles skabets medlemsstater ikke behøver at blive ladt i stikken, mens de forberedende procedurer er i gang, da disse, selv når der er politisk enighed i Rådet, naturligvis vil tage sin tid.
A year ago, on 8 March 1985, the Secretariat of the Council of Ministers informed the President of the European Par­liament that the Council was inviting Parliament to deliver its opinion during the partsession in April 1985, so that the matter could be considered by the Council at its meeting on 6 and 7 May 1985.
Jeg har i mit indlæg her i formiddag endnu en gang påpeget, og jeg mener, at det er på sin plads at gentage, at vi med glæde kan konstatere, at den europæiske menneskerettighedskonvention allerede nu af Domstolen anvendes som retsgrundlag.
The Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights, on the strength of its own commitment to the People's Europe and the apparent political will shown by the Council, made haste to complete its task so that the debate could be held by the time requested by the Council.
Formanden. — Forhandlingen er afsluttet.
Since then we have been waiting...
For det andet vil jeg, selvfølgelig i erkendelse af den politiske betydning af en sådan tiltrædelse fra Fælles skabets side, advare imod, at der — måske også hos nogle ærede medlemmer i Parlamentet — opstår den misforståelse, at Fællesskabets beføjelser som sådan vedrørende menneskerettighederne dermed udvides til også at omfatte områder uden for dets nuværende beføjelser, dvs. Rom-traktatens økonomiske målsætninger. ninger.
President. — The next item is the oral question, with debate, by Mrs Vayssade, on behalf of the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights, to the Council, on the controls and formalities applicable to nationals of the Member States when crossing Community internal borders (Doc. Β 2-1624/85).
(Anmodningen blev ikke imødekommet)
Why are we being kept waiting, Mr President of the Council?
Et tredje punkt, hvor der måske også hersker uklarhed, og som jeg her endnu en gang vil fremhæve, er, at Fællesskabets tiltrædelse af denne konvention ikke automatisk medfører, at lande i Fællesskabet, som hidtil af den ene eller den anden grund ikke anerken
Mrs Vayssade (S). — (FR) Mr President, on his way here this morning, the President of the Council was held up by fog, but I do not suppose that, when he came through the airport at Amsterdam or The Hague, he was held up for hours by tiresome formali­ties, by having to stand in queues of people awaiting their turn for controls on their passports or other documents which may have to be produced by travell­ers in the Community.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er mundtlig forespørgsel med forhandling (dok. B21624/85) af Vayssade for udvalget om retlige anliggender og borgernes rettigheder til Rådet om kontrol len af og formaliteterne for statsborgere i medlems staterne ved passage over Fællesskabets indre grænser. ser.
I should like to begin by saying that the Council too attaches the utmost importance to the problem Mrs Vayssade has broached and that the more flexible handling of transfrontier traffic, the subject of her question, should occupy a prominent place in the general objective to which the Council is giving so much priority at the moment: progress towards the completion of the internal market.
Hvorfor venter vi, hr. rådsformand?
I will try to be as specific as possible in my answer, Mr President.
Jeg tror, De bør fortælle os, hvad der blokerer i betragtning af, at vi har set en praksis udvikle sig mellem de forskellige regeringer angående visse former for lempelse af for maliteterne ved grænserne. Hvorfor har Rådet som sådan, der selv krævede hurtighed, nu i et år trampet rundt på stedet i en sag, der ikke syntes så kompliceret, eftersom der syntes at eksistere en generel konsensus, når man talte om det ved forskellige lejligheder? heder?
I can begin by telling Mrs Vayssade that this subject is on the agenda for the meeting of the Council of Ministers responsible for the internal mar ket on 18 March, and I think it is possible, or at least I will express what I consider to be the not entirely unjustified hope, that the Council will be able to take a step forward at this meeting.
Det problem, det drejer sig om her, er følgende : Vil det lykkes at lempe formaliteterne ved grænserne for Fællesskabets borgere og tillade dem at rejse langt friere inden for fælles skabsområdet?
I would again put to you the question which you did not answer in connection with accession to the European Convention for Human Rights: we must be told why certain countries are blocking this, and which coun tries they are.
På Fontainebleau-topmødet talte Det europæiske Råd med en politisk vilje, der syntes overbevisende, om »borgernes Europa» og nedsatte undersøgelsesudvalg, der skulle fremkomme med konkrete for slag.
While accepting that the Council is a collegiate body and our various countries are equally represented on it, I think that it is right for us to know which people we should be talking to.
Vi har selv understreget dem og lavet en fortegnelse over dem.
Is one country in particular making difficulties?
Udvalget under hr. Adonninos formandskab udarbejdede og foreslog visse ting, som forekom os at være blevet accepteret — totalt — både på Bruxelles topmødet og Milano-topmødet.
What, very briefly, is the background to this question and what is the current situation?
Det forekom os altså, at den politiske vilje var til stede på alle medlemssta ternes niveau og ligeledes i fællesskabsinstanserne, eftersom topmøderne havde været yderst klare.
Mr President, as soon as the Council received the European Parliament's opinion, it continued its discussion of the pro posal for a Council directive on the easing of border controls.
Jeg spørger mig selv, hr. formand, om Rådet ikke vender tingene på hovedet, når det behøver en så lang ventetid her, hvor det drejer sig om så enkle problemer som lem pelse af visse formaliteter, forstået på den måde, at når formaliteterne var blevet lempet og flere trafikfaciliteter etableret, ville det være lettere at finde frem til gode kontrolmidler og til placering af dem, idet grænserne højst sandsynligt ikke er det bedste middel. del.
At the moment, the Council's deliberations are based on a compromise proposed by the Presidency, which in particular provides for a distinction between controls at inland borders and con trols at sea and airports. This distinction has been made in an attempt to solve a number of problems in the Council.
To på hinanden følgende år, 1984 og 1985, hvor man argumenterede ud fra den kendsgerning, at man stod foran ferien, og at utallige fællesskabsborgere, der i flere måneder skulle rejse fra det ene land til det andet, gerne så, at det blev meget lettere at bevæge sig rundt.
A year ago, Mr President of the Council, you were pressing us to give this matter urgent treat ment, to deal with it quickly to enable you to dispose of it by May, so that all Europeans would be rid of a number of formalities by the beginning of the holiday period.
Det ser imidlertid ud til, at denne vilje pludselig er forsvundet.
We are again just a few months from the start of the summer holidays in the Community.
Vi har været vidne til, at Kommissionen udarbejdede en tekst i overensstemmelse med den politiske vilje, der kom til ud tryk på topmødet.
This time, are you really committed to ensuring that the formalities are actually reduced, or are we going to have to wait another year?
For et år siden, den 8. marts 1985, meddelte Rådets sekretariat formandskabet for Europa-Parlamentet, at Rådet henstillede til Parlamentet at afgive udtalelse under mødeperioden i april 1985, så spørgsmålet kunne forelægges Rådet på dets samling den 6.-7. maj 1985.
We would like you to make the position absolutely clear. We regard it as a matter of urgency for you to take your decision, for the benefit of all European citizens, so that they may make this European territory their own, so that they may feel at home anywhere in the Community without having to negotiate too many barriers.
Derfor vil vi. hr. for mand, gerne vide, hvilke forhindringer Rådet støder på.
The authorities would, of course, retain the right to make ran dom checks.
Jeg gentager det spørgsmål, som De ikke be svarede, da det drejede sig om tiltrædelse af den euro pæiske menneskerettighedskonvention: vi må have at vide, hvorfor nogle lande blokerer, og hvilke lande, der gør det.
To facilitate the application of this provision, the citizens of the Member States could display a green disk at least 8 cm in diameter on the windscreen of their cars.
Rådet er på den ene side et kollegium, men vore forskellige lande er ligeledes repræsenteret i Rådet, og jeg tror, det er godt, at vi ved, hvem vi skal indlede en dialog med. Hvilke forhindringer støder vi på?
Mr Rogalla (S). — Mr President, could you perhaps ask the President-in-Office to wait with his answer to this question until the group spokesmen have spoken?
Er det et bestemt sted. der giver anledning til problemer?
That would help the discussion.
Hvordan forholder det sig med lande vejstransporten, med jernbanetransporten, og hvor dan forholder det sig med flytransporten og med hav nene?
President. — As a rule, the institution concerned gives its answer to an oral question straight away, in order that it should be clear what is being discussed.
Hvorfor tager det så lang tid at nå frem til en beslutning på dette område?
We should stick to this rule.
Med henblik på at lette anvendelsen af denne bestemmelse kan stats borgere i medlemsstaterne i bilens forrude anbringe en grøn mærkat med en diameter på mindst 8 centimeter. meter.
I called them ministers of deception, those people who do not think the European legal area is worth a dime, who still draw a distinction between land, seaport and railway controls.
For et år siden påberåbte De Dem, at det dre jede sig om en hastesag, hr. rådsformand.
Further discussions will have to be held to put the final touches to the text of the resolution.
De bad os om at arbejde hurtigt, for De ville være færdig i maj, således at alle europæere ved sommerferiens begyndelse ville være fri for en række formaliteter. Om nogle måneder står vi foran sommerferien i Fælles skabet.
I hope that I have made it clear to the honourable Member that progess is definitely being made in this matter and that we hope to be able to take the next step at the meeting of the Council of Ministers responsible for the internal market that will be held on 18 March.
Forpligter De Dem denne gang virkelig på at få indført lempelser i formaliteterne, eller skal vi tværtimod endnu en gang vente et år mere?
If they had any regard for this legal area, they would long since have created it or at least shown some signs of doing so.
Vi ønsker, at De meddeler os det helt klart.
Perhaps we shall see such signs on 18 March against all probability.
For alle europæiske borgere er det vigtigt, at De hurtigt be slutter Den, så borgerne kan gøre hele det europæiske område til deres eget og føle sig hjemme overalt uden at støde på alt for hyppige barrierer. Vi synes ikke, at beslutningerne er så komplicerede!
In fact they are under pressure from their closest colleagues and most of the unions, who urge them not to do their duty, for bor der officials also have understandable habits and desires and dislike new forms of cooperation.
For så vidt angår kontrol i havne og lufthavne fast sættes det i forslaget, at medlemsstaterne, såfremt omfanget af den internationale rejsetrafik berettiger til de dermed forbundne investeringer, skal etablere særlige luger og gennemgange, således at kontrollen derved kan gøres hurtigere og grænsepassagen for statsborgere i medlemsstaterne kan lettes.
But we do expect our ministers and the President of the Council to realize at last that police work, criminal investigation and observation based on careful preparation, is far more likely to lead to arrest and discovery — and this can be seen from official reports — than standing around at borders.
Rogalla (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, kunne De eventuelt anmode rådsformanden om at udsætte besvarelsen af denne forespørgsel, indtil repræsentanterne for grupperne har talt. Det ville bestemt være nyttigt for drøftelsen.
Mr Rogalla (S). — (DE) Mr President, it was very interesting to hear the President of the Council speak of the problems that need to be solved in the Council but not of the problems facing the people.
Formanden. — Normalt besvarer den berørte institution straks en mundtlig forespørgsel, således at der er klart, hvad der drøftes. Denne praksis bør vi fastholde. de.
In the opinion it delivered in April last year, the European Parliament put proposals before the public long before the Commission published the white paper on the internal market, so that the European sovereign power, the people, from Palermo to Skagen, from Bochum to Oviedo, were ahead of the Commission.
Kompromisset er, som jeg har beskrevet det, blevet modtaget gunstigt af næsten alle delegationer.
Those who carry out the controls at internal frontiers and harrass the people of Europe by forcing them to wait in queues contrary to their legal rights under the Treaties are misrepresenting the real needs.
En en kelt delegation har endnu ikke ment at kunne tilslutte sig.
Only a quarter or so of arrests are made at the internal frontiers, the rest at airports and seaports.
På det ærede medlems forespørgsel om, hvad der er årsagen hertil, kan jeg svare: fordi delegationen mener, at det påtænkte direktiv må rumme garantier for, at indholdet ikke kolliderer med gældende aftaler med tredjelande.
There is a shortage of staff at central criminal investigation sites such as the airports of Frankfurt, Paris and Amsterdam, while officials are still patrolling the so-called green internal frontiers with dogs.
Jeg vil begynde med at sige, at det problem, som fru Vayssade har berørt, også af Rådet betragtes som en meget vigtig sag, der prioriteres højt i Rådets arbejde i øjeblikket, nemlig enighed om gennemførelse af det interne mar ked, bør også lettelser for grænsetrafikken, som denne forespørgsel drejer sig om, tildeles en høj prioritet.
Surely it must finally reach the ears of the ministers, the finance ministers and the ministers of the interior, that we are no longer dealing with the small sovereign states of the nineteenth century but with the sovereignty of the European Community, and that only within that framework is there any point in fighting to create and maintain jobs.
Jeg kan endelig oplyse, at det er foreslået, at Rådet skal vedtage en resolution om samarbejde mellem kontrolmyndighederne med henblik på at imødegå de ulemper, der kunne være forbundet med anvendelsen af dette direktiv.
When will the Commission, which also complains of this situation, and when will you, Mr President of the Council, join forces and oppose the German Minister of the Interior who wants to draw a new line of fortification — some even call it a new iron curtain — right across free Europe, under the heading of machine readability and 400 reading devices, with the eager support of the computer firms?
Der skal endnu afholdes drøftelser, før der kan lægges en sidste hånd på resolutionens tekst.
To be quite plain: I have nothing against technology and I am in favour of its use to combat serious crime.
Jeg håber, at jeg hermed har gjort det klart for det ærede medlem, at der i hvert fald sker fremgang i sagen, og at vi håber at kunne tage næste skridt i Rådet vedrørunde det interne marked den 18. marts.
But machine-readable passports are only conceivable if all the people of Europe agree to them, and we all know that is not the case.
Jeg vil forsøge at svare så konkret som muligt.
Heinrich Heine is still right today.
Jeg kan for det første meddele den ærede forespørger, at denne sag står på dagsordenen for Rådet vedrørende det interne marked den 18. marts 1986, og at jeg ikke udelukker — eller i hvert fald giver udtryk for det efter min mening ikke helt uberettigede håb — at Rådet under denne samling vil kunne tage mere vidt rækkende skridt.
The ministers of the interior and ministers of finance who are generally responsible for border officials of various kinds can be heard snoring loudly when it is a question of security policy; and yet these are 24 possibly rational men and woman, prisoners of their own small-state mentality. Today Heine would write: 'I know the tune, I know the words, I know the worries of the authors; they only preach European wine on Sundays, their horizon remains as provincial as water'.
Hvad er i helt korte træk forhistorien og situationen i øjeblikket?
Ministers of the interior and finance ministers have become ministers of deception.
Så snart Rådet havde modtaget Europa-Parlamentets udtalelse om emnet, fortsatte det drøftelserne om forslaget til direktiv fra Rådet om forenkling af grænsekontrollen.
Where we need European cooperation, the exchange of information about serious criminals and the drugs mafia goes via coach and horses, on a regional basis of course.
Europa-Parlamentet var med sin beslutning af april forrige år
They said they were in favour of the gradual abolition of all police and cus-
lige krav i henhold til traktaterne, fordrejer de saglige nødvendigheder.
toms formalities for passenger traffic at internal frontiers. tiers.
Indenrigsministre og finansministre, under hvem grænsetjenestemænd af forskellig slags for det meste sorterer, kan man høre snorke højt sikkerhedspolitisk.
Immediately after the European Council's announcement, the members of the Kangaroo Group arranged for an identical question to be put in the national parliaments: what action do the governments of the Member States intend taking to bring about the abolition of these formalities?
Der er alligevel 24 muligvis fornuftige damer og herrer, som er fanget i deres småstatsagtige forestillinger.
As you can imagine, the answers to these questions were — I would almost say 'of course' — couched in very official terms.
For klarhedens skyld : jeg har ikke noget imod teknik, og jeg erkender dens nytte ved bekæmpelsen af grov kriminalitet.
We welcome Mr Rogalla's amendment that proposes Parliament should be informed on how things are going at frontier-crossing points, so that we can see how these random checks work in practice.
Boot (PPE). - (NE) Hr. formand, det spørgsmål, vi behandler i dag, blev første gang drøftet i Det euro pæiske Råd i Fontainebleau.
It is, of course, for the Commission to consider complaints received from the public.
Dengang indgik stats- og regeringscheferne en politisk forpligtelse til at lette passagen ved grænserne.
But as this will be a very weighty task, we feel it would be a good thing to have something like the Equal Opportunities Commission in Britain to consider frontier problems.
Man erklærede dengang, at man var tilhænger af en gradvis afskaffelse af alle politi- og toldformaliteter for persontrafikken ved de indre grænser.
We all know that a committee of this nature is far better equipped to do something about complaints. plaints.
Indenrigsministre og finansministre er blevet til be drageriske ministre.
The Adonnino Committee has proposed measures which might be successful in the short term.
Hurtig ef terforskning på fersk gerning ud over Fællesskabets grænser, det er noget, nederlandske politiorganisationer stadig væk ikke kan forestille sig, hvis det kom mer fra Tyskland.
Reference was made to the measures that could be taken quickly, preferably in 1985.
Officiel hjælp — naturligvis via medlemsstaternes central, via udenrigsministeriet, verbalnoten og andre diplomatiske fortidslevninger, så kan attentatmændene fra Fiumicino eller Stockholm for længst være langt væk.
That is why in January 1985 the Commission put forward its proposal for the simplification of con trols and formalities applicable to nationals of the Member States when they cross intra-Community bor ders.
Bedrageriske ministre, sagde jeg.
Nor did he include it in the amended proposal to the Council.
Mennesker, som blæser på det europæiske retsområde, som stadig skelner mellem land, havne- og jernbanekontroller.
We therefore welcome Mr Rogalla's amendment because it calls for something similar to the committee on frontier problems that Parliament originally wanted.
Som De ved, hr. formand, og også De, hr, rådsfor mand, har vi i Parlamentet efter engelsk forbillede en all party group, som kalder sig kængurugruppen.
The abolition of systematic controls as a first step towards the ultimate goal is the subject of the directive we are discussing today.
De henviste alle til, at Rådet i Fontaine bleau havde oprettet Adonnino-komiteen og at man således ikke behøvede at besvare spørgsmålet nærmere.
Parliament was quickly consulted on this proposal, and it was enthusiastic about the speed with which not only the Commission but also — it seemed — the Council was act ing, because that was after all the political undertaking the Heads of Government had given.
Det var lidt skuffende.
But no, it was unfortunately not to be.
Måske oplever vi den 18. marts trods al sandsynlighed en sådan erklæring.
If we also ask the Member States to look for solutions, we shall be moving away from the compromises that have already been reached.