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Nu er den eneste ting, der er fælles for så vidt angår landbrug, som De ved, det gennemsnitlige pris niveau.
President. — The next item is the report by Sir Henry Plumb (Doc.
Derudover er alting helt ulige og alt andet end fælles.
1-108/81), on behalf of the Committee on Agriculture, on the
Vi har forskellige bankrentesatser — også de har været 20 % hos os.
President. — I call the Socialist Group.
Vi har forskellige Mubber.
La regulation establishing a common measure for the development of beef cattle production in Ireland;
Vi har forskelle i størrelsen af hele markedet og afstanden fra markedet, og med de nuværende energiomkostninger kan dette have en væsentlig indvirkning på fortjeneste og tab.
II. a regulation introducing temporary financial aid from the Community to Ireland for premovement tuberculin testing and brucellosis bloodsampling of cattle; and
Jeg var glad for at konstatere, at da landbrugsministrene mødtes i slutningen af. marts og i begyndelsen af april, var de også klar over, at dette var et meget svagt svar.
Mr Gautier. — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I hope we will also receive the amendments mentioned by Sir Henry Plumb in writing.
Clinton jeg hilser disse forslag velkommen.
Gautier to cover Northern Ireland is likely, I think, to pose problems.
Lige som dem må jeg imidlertid udtrykke min dybe skuffelse over, at den samlede reaktion er så helt utilstrækkelig i forhold til, hvad der virkelig er en overordentlig van skelig situation i Irland.
It is reasonable to expect that, in accordance with our rights, Parliament should actually be formally consulted rather than some decision or other simply being taken without the budgetary implications being known.
Udviklingsstadierne i de forskellige medlemsstater, kombinationen af produkter i de forskellige industrier og selv det forskellige vejr — alle disse forskelle gør det afgørende at have særlige pakker.
I should like to stress on behalf of the Socialist Group that we have nothing against financial aid to Ireland.
Den eneste måde, man kan behandle denne sitation og gøre dette marked til et fælles marked, er ved at anvende specielle foranstaltninger i bestemte områder.
Nevertheless, we have certain reservations regarding certain aspects of the programme and urge the Commission to revise its proposals accordingly.
Faldet i irsk landbrug i de sidste to år har været mere alvorlig end noget andet sted i Fællesskabet, og eftersom irske landbrugsindtægter er langt under Fællesskabets gennemsnit, rammes irske landmænd hårdere end andre af en nedsættelse i deres indtægter.
We can agree to the amounts proposed but nevertheless feel that these funds should not be taken from the Guidance Section but, as far as I am concerned, from the Guarantee Section, or the Social Fund or wherever you like.
Gouthier, hvis indlæg jeg også er meget taknemmelig for, sagde, at dette var altsammen indkomststøtte til landmænd.
I should now like to make a few remarks regarding the programme for the Republic of Ireland.
Jeg kan sige, at sygdomsbekæmpelse bestemt ikke putter penge i landmændenes lommer.
There has undoubtedly been a dramatic drop in the incomes of many farmers in Ireland over the last year or two and special measures for the benefit of Ireland would thus appear to be a sensible idea.
Faktisk tager det en masse penge ud af landmændenes lommer — og jeg er sikker på, at Gouthier vil forstå det — på grund af tabet af køer med brucellose og andre sygdomme af den slags.
However, the question is simply whether the Commission's proposals are in fact sensible ones deserving of our support.
For det andet spiller landbruget i Irland en meget større rolle i nationaløkonomien end i noget andet medlemsland. Landbruget bidrager med 17 % af bruttonationalproduktet, mens Fællesskabets gennemsnit er på 4 %.
Mr J. D. Taylor. — Mr President, I should like to rise in support of this proposal to aid the beef industry in the Republic of Ireland and as member for North ern Ireland I support the amendments which would extend the scheme to Northern Ireland.
Landbrugets arbejdsstyrke omfatter 20 % af den samlede arbejdsstyrke i Irland, mens tallet for Fællesskabet er 8 %.
Firstly, I should like to draw the attention of the House to the fact that the Commission intends to draw the funds mainly from the guidance section of the EAGGF.
Det er derfor klart, at landbrugets betydning i økonomien er så stor, at et skarpt fald i landbrugsindtægterne ikke alene rammer landbrugssektoren men også økonomien som helhed.
For example, the Commission intends in the future to increase the use of artificial insemination or the application of lime to pasture land, etc.
Kombinationen af alle tre faktorer — det alvorlige fald i de irske landbrugsindtægter sammen med deres lave niveau, landbrugets usædvanlige store betydning for den irske national økonomi, og de snærende bånd på det irske budget — gør Irland til et særligt tilfælde. Det kan med rimelighed siges, at ingen anden medlemsstat rammes af disse tre faktorer i noget, der bare ligner samme grad.
What all this boils down to is nothing less than a direct financial transfer from the Commission to certain farmers in Ireland and since our Chairman, Sir Henry Plumb, has just said himself in his introductory remarks that these measures will help to alleviate the problem of falling incomes in agriculture we should, I think, call them by their proper name.
Parlamentet selv har været meget opmærksomt på situationen i Irland og Nordirland.
I must remind the House that we did have a debate in December of last year in Luxembourg, when a motion in the name of the Fianna Fail members, and by myself for the Unionist Party, asked especially for aid for farmers in the Republic of Ireland and in Northern Ireland.
I et forslag til beslutning i december sidste år opfordrede det Kommissionen til at tage øjeblikkelige skridt til at behandle krisen i det irske landbrug.
The present proposal in its initial stages only referred to the Republic, and I am glad that it is now being extended to Northern Ireland.
Som jeg siger, 90 % af landet er græsareal, og derfor kan vi ikke skifte over.
There has been a dramatic decline in Ulster farm incomes; In 1979 they fell by 53% and last year by 60%.
Bortset fra det repræsenterer husdyrbesætninger — dvs. kvæg, oksekød og mælkeprodukter — ca. 75 % af den samlede produktion i irsk landbrug.
This compares with the lower fall of 33-5% in southern Ireland and 24% in Great Britain.
Jeg understreger disse ting blot for at gøre opmærksom på, hvor afhængige vi stadig er af landbruget i Irland.
So one can see at a glance that the fall in incomes in Northern Ireland has been the great est yet quoted; and Scotland is not far behind us.
Jeg gjorde opmærksom på det i december og sagde, at der var to meget vigtige ting, man måtte give os i en pakke: et kalvetilskud for at få kvæg tilbage på landet — og de vil ikke komme tilbage på landet fra den ene dag til den anden, det vil tage tre år at præstere det — og en støtteordning på banklånrenter ned til et niveau, der kan anvendes af irske landmænd.
Secondly, we should, I think, work on the basis of social criteria and not simply across the board since what good will it do simply to make out a cheque for 50 million EUA or so — which, after all, is not pean uts — and hand it over to Ireland for all farmers to benefit from regardless of whether they are in difficulties or not.
Det er de to væsentligste ting, og jeg håber så, at Kommissionen, når den kommer til at overveje situationen i Irland nærmere, vil være særdeles opmærksom på dem.
The Commission should, I think, finally make it quite clear that what we want to do is help those farmers who are in fact suffering as a result of this situation rather than just throwing money around indiscriminately, so that we can avoid those who are already comfortably off getting even more.
Det er allerede blevet sagt her i dag, at de foranstaltninger, der nu foreslås, for størstedelen er af en strukturel natur, og at de ikke går langt nok i retning af at lette de umiddelbare indkomstproblemer.
To put it in another way, Ulster provides 6% of the agricultural output of the United Kingdom, but the net income to Ulster farmers is in fact only 1%.
Jeg forstår imidlertid, at Kommissionen selv er sig bevidst, at der må yderligere foranstaltninger til over en bredere front, hvis man vil leve op til den situation, der følger efter faldet i landbrugsindtægterne. Yderligere er jeg klar over, at Rådet regner med nødvendigheden af yderligere forslag til at hjælpe det irske landbrug, især inden for husdyrbesætninger.
The beef industry in Northern Ireland has declined by one-third since 1975 — a reduction of 33% in the beef herd, and the intensive sector of agriculture, which is something special to Northern Ireland — the pork industry and the poultry industry — has actually declined by 50% since we entered the EEC.
Jeg er meget glad for at støtte, at disse foranstaltninger udstrækkes til også at gælde for Nordirland.
The speaker opposite said that we should take into consideration the social conditions.
Jeg har altid gået ind for, at Nordirland og Republikken Irland skulle behandles ens, og jeg mener, at dette Fællesskab kan gøre en masse for at bringe de to sammen, sådan som det burde ske.
The social conditions in Northern Ireland are that we suffer from one of the highest levels of unemployment: 17V2% throughout the province, and 30% in the rural areas.
Det blev betonet, som rigtigt er, at der i virkeligheden ikke er nogen grænse imellem dem, for så snart der er en fordel på den ene side eller på den anden, så starter smuglingen, og den kan ikke forhindres.
There is no alternative means of employment for small farmers; and the farmers in Ulster are small farmers.
Formanden. — Hr. O'Donnell har ordet.
So I would commend this proposal both for the
Jeg støtter også, hvad min kollege Clinton sagde, om at dette er en vital faktor og det mest påtrængende behov i øjeblikket.
Thirdly, I take the view that the current situation in Ireland is largely due to the high interest rates.
De høje rentesatser forkrøbler irsk land brug, og jeg håber, at man i den næste fortsættelse af pakken — dette er kun en første begyndelse, som Clinton sagde — vil forberede et rentetilskud, et kalvetilskud og måske et kalk- og gødningstilskud.
In all the discussions we have had with the Commission or which I have personally had with my Irish colleagues, it has repeatedly been pointed out that many Irish farmers have taken out substantial loans for investment purposes which means that the real problem lies in the interest rates in Ireland which are currently very high.
O'Donnell. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg slutter mig til mine irske kolleger, der har talt her til morgen, idet
Why then does not the Commission submit proposals for interest subsidies for certain farmers in Ireland?
Men selvfølgelig forstår jeg, at spørgsmålet om rentens højde i det væsentlige er årsag til, at land mændene i Fællesskabet, i hvert fald i adskillige lande, har disse vanskeligheder.
But I think it is interesting to point out that only 2v2% of all the farmers, certainly in the Republic, have more than 75 hectares so the vast bulk of these farmers are in fact small farmers.
Rådet var positivt indstillet over for forslagene i sidste uge, da man behandlede dem, og jeg mener, at beslutningen snarest må træffes, for at de irske landmænd så hurtigt som muligt kan få fordel af de foranstaltninger, vi har foreslået.
We do know that it will be somewhat identical to that already proposed for the Republic of Ireland, but I think he does owe it to the House this morning to give some further details of what is proposed for Northern Ireland and especially if there will be anything for the intensive sector of farming in the province.
Jeg takker sir Henry Plumb for hans betænkning, og jeg vil gerne anbefale, at Parlamentet tiltræder forslaget.
As he may know, the structure of agriculture in Northern Ireland is not identical to that in the Republic, and there may be some variations needed to apply it specifically to the problems of agriculture in Ulster.
Formanden. — Forhandlingen er afsluttet.
I support the proposal.
Det er fremhævet af adskillige, ikke mindst af de mange irske talere, at Parlamentet og Kommissionen i hvert fald i dag er blevet gjort bekendt med den meget alvorlige forringelse af indkomsterne i de irske landbrug.
We are in a community of nations and surely if one particular country is in trouble, it has a right to go to its fellows in that community and put its case before them and ask if there is something they can do to help us out of a difficulty.
Jeg vil gerne sige til de mange irske talere, at det er helt klart, at både Kommissionen, Rådet og Parlamentet accepterer, at Irland har specielt vanskelige forhold.
Last year we had the situation of the UK, which pleaded very strongly and very successfully that it had problems and wanted to get a reduction in its payments and contributions to the European Community.
Jeg behøver ikke understrege over for hverken de mange talere her eller andre, at landbruget i hele Fællesskabet har været i en meget vanskelig situation, men at den er særlig vanskelig i Irland på grund af den store afhængighed for det irske samfund af land brugssektoren.
That was finally negotiated and Germany and France and the other countries finally agreed that Britain was in difficulties.
Det er også grunden til, at man har taget initiativer, som det vi her behandler.
Here are we making a special case, and I do not like making special cases.
Jeg vil gerne sige til hr. Gautier og andre, som siger, at det blot drejer sig om overførsel af nogle penge, at der er mere perspektiv i dette forslag end blot overførsel af nogle penge fra Fællesskaet til Den irske Republik og til Nordirland.
Of course it is a pittance from the point of view of the budget of the Community as a whole, but nevertheless it is a help to us and we would be very, grateful to get that money because every little bit helps.
Ordføreren har ordet.
President. — I call Mr Davern.
Vedrørende Nordirland er det rigtigt, som det er sagt, at det er hensigten at udvide forslagene til også at gælde Nordirland.
It is giving employment to 45% of the workforce: that is including those on the farms and those who are upstream and downstream from the farms.
Det gælder for forslagene som helhed med undtagelse af forslagene om udryddelse af kvæg sygdomme, idet disse sygdomsudryddelsesprogrammer allerede er succesfyldt gennemført i Nordirland.
Mr Davern. — Mr President, I too, would like to welcome this motion and in particular, would like to say to the rest of the members of the Community here, by way of warning, that we have now less income per farmer than we had in 1973.
Da man har udryddet disse sygdomme, er det ikke nødvendigt, at dette forslag, for så vidt angår Nordirland, også skal omfatte denne del af programmet.
That is not a healthy sign for the Community; it is not in line with one of the commitments that were given.
Gautier, ordfører. — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer!
I would welcome what Mr Gautier has said this morning regarding money which can be borrowed at Community rates.
Jeg vil på den anden side gerne pege på, at Landbrugsudvalget har givet sit samtykke til betænkningen om Det europæiske Fællesskabs aftale med Canada over fangstvirksomheden i canadiske farvande med 24 jastemmer og én stemmeafholdelse.
I would ask the Commission, if they could not formulate a policy to give the Irish farmers a loan at that interest rate and let the government of the country guarantee the exchange rate.
Dette viser trods alt, at vi er i stand til i Landbrugsudvalget på tværs af partierne og også på tværs af nationale skel at nå til løsninger, som virkelig yder Fællesskabets fiskere retfærdighed.
I think this would be something practical and very easy to do — it would not involve a structural measure of any sort.
For det andet vil jeg gerne konstatere, at Rådet har for vane først at høre Parlamentet, når det allerede har truffet en beslutning.
Now those few figures give, I think, an indication — and I have only time to do that — of the absolutely cardinal importance of this industry in a country like Ireland.
I dette spørgsmål har Rådet end ikke hørt os.
That is one of the problems that we have.
Vi har imidlertid taget os den frihed at sige Rådet vor mening før det træffer beslutning.
If you introduce a measure north of the border and do not do the same thing south of the border, it is bound to have a bad effect on the other side, on whichever side that measure is introduced.
Derfor har vi, medens vi afventer at blive hørt, udarbejdet denne betænkning.
So it makes sense in fact to introduce a measure of this kind that will compensate both north and south.
Der har været talt om rentestøtte, og der har været talt om forskellige inflationsrater.
I also welcome the fact that the Commission and the Council of Ministers have announced their intention to give the same aid to Northern Ireland.
Det er klart, at rentens højde og inflationens takt i de forskellige lande også medvirker til at skabe situationer, som er forskellige for landmændene fra land til land.
This is important because whatever differences there may be between North and South, we are, in Ireland, on the periphery of Europe and indeed we have the same effects from the same problems.
Heen om rentestøtte er selvfølgelig naturlig at komme ind på, men man må huske, at der er andre landmænd i dette Fællesskab, som betaler mindst lige så høj rente som de irske landmænd, måske ovenikøbet højere.
I think also it is interesting to point out, — and I take Mr Gautier's point — that these measures to a large extent would help the income of the farmers but, of course, that is what they are intended to do because of the disastrous situation that farmers find themselves in in our country.
Der er også landmænd i Fællesskabet, som lider under en højere inflation end andre under den gennemsnitlige inflation.
That is indeed what we want to do in the short term, because structural measures take some time before they can be of benefit.
For det tredje er aftalen med Canada i virkeligheden en rammeaftle, som landbrugsudvalget og Parlamentet konsulteres om, men de egentlige stridsspørgsmål er indeholdt i den dertil knyttede breweks-
This is the kernel of it. I believe that farmers can do so much themselves if they have a lower interest rate but unfortunately, at 17%, with an income less than they had in 1973, they cannot help themselves in this situation.
Til sidst vil vi pege på, at aftaler med tredjelande også er af vigtighed for fiskernes investeringsplanlægning. Vi har jo for nyligt i Landbrugsudvalgets arbejdsgruppe for fiskeri foranstaltet en høring med fiskerne i Det europæiske Fællesskab.
As regards the extension of these matters to the six counties of Northern Ireland, I can only say that, as is said in Sir Henry Plumb's report, really the two are the same in this respect.
Fiskerne var nødt til at vide, hvad de i de næste fem år kunne fange i Fællesskabet og hvad de kunne fange i tredjelande.
There is no doubt that our problems are very similar, and anything that can help on the one side of the unnatural divide can undoubtedly help on the other.
De resultater, man har forhandlet sig frem til, knytter vi nu til nogle interne fællesskabsproblemer.» Ved en sådan fremgangsmåde bringes Fællesskabets udenrigspolitiske troværdighed under ét i fare.
Would the Commission try for greater harmonization to avoid the distortions which not only now exist but may also be created by the application of these new measures, whatever may be their final outcome?
Hvis det fortsætter på den måde, vil fremtidige Ministerråd måske knytte uranoverenskomster med Canada sammen med tomatproduktionen i Italien.
Try to get us better harmonization to cut out the distortions, because at present they are playing havoc with, for instance, our meat factories.
Jeg tror også at det punkt så på et tidspunkt vil være nået, hvor en fornuftig udenrigshandelspolitik vil blive en umulighed for Det europæiske Fællesskab.
Much of our stock is going across and being killed in the six-county facto ries, so doubling the output they had a year ago, while our decline and our unemployment increases, apart altogether from losses in other ways.
Jeg er af den opfattelse, at denne bestemmelse var fornuftig og konsekvent, fordi vi gik ud fra, at forhandlinger med tredjelande ikke længere skulle føres af de enkelte medlemsstater, men af Fælles skabet. Jeg forstår overhovedet ikke, hvorfor Kommissionen nu igen vil annullere dette, og igen skabe mulighed for, at enkelte medlemsstater kan føre forhandlinger med tredjelande, uden at dette længere falder inden for Det europæiske Fællesskabs kompetence. tence.
The income drop over the last three years is probably somewhere in the region of 50 % and, as has already been said by some of my colleagues here, if they consider the importance of agriculture as a whole to the Irish economy then, perhaps, it will be possible for those who are concerned in the Commission, whoever they may be, the Commissioner himself perhaps, to realize just what a disastrous situation we now have got in Ireland as a whole, mainly as a result of this disastrous drop in agricultural income over the past three years, and particularly when we realize that our cattle population in that time had dropped from some where over 7 million to somewhere over 4 million.
Landbrugsudvalget henviser for det andet til, at opdelingen af fangskvoterne inden for Fællesskabets farvande i ganske væsentlig grad lettes gennem mulig heden for at europæiske fiskere kan fiske i canadiske farvande.
When we try to arrest that situation, to revitalize that particular aspect of our agricultural economy, then realism must enter into the picture and it must be recognized that the two-year programme, no matter how attractive, will not retrieve the situation at all.
En fangstmænde på næsten 15 000 tons kabliau er i ganske særlig grad for Det europæiske Fællesskabs højsøfiskeri en betydningsfuld faktor, fordi presset ved den interne kvotefordeling lettes betydeligt.
So I have been suggesting by way of amendment that this should be realistically considered as a five-year and not as a two-year programme.
For det tredje må det undersøges, hvilken betydning de toldindrømmelser, som Canada og Det europæiske Fællesskab gensidigt yder hinanden ved indførsel, egentlig har for handelen inden for Fællesskabet.
Mr Kavanagh. — Mr President, previous speakers have said more or less what I would have said, and I can be fairly brief.
Det hævdes ofte, at de giver anledning til betydelige markedsforstyrrelser.
We debated the crisis in the farming industry in Ireland in December, we outlined the basis of the problem and suggested solutions that the Commission could consider, and I believe the Commission's response to that debate is contained in these proposals.
Landbrugsudvalget henviser imidlertid til, at de faktiske mængder, som indføres med toldbegunstigelse på det europæiske marked, kun udgør en brøkdel af Fællesskabets samlede import og forbrug.
They are very limited; they are very disappointing; and I do not think they will really serve to reserve the trend that has occurred in Irish agriculture over the last two years.
Derfor kan vi ikke se, at dette skulle være noget stort problem.
Nevertheless, they are welcome, because they are a response.
Den socialistiske gruppe tilslutter sig uden forbehold hr. Gautiers beslutning vedrørende fiskeriaftalen med Canada.
In global percentage figures, they amount to 43% of our total exports.
Allerede i januar i år opfordrede Parlamentet på foranledning af min gruppe indtrængende Rådet til omgående at ratificere i det mindste denne del af den fælles fiskeripolitik.
This again highlights the absolute disaster that can come upon us and, indeed, is already with us in Ireland as regards our general economy but more particularly our agriculture.
I næsten alle anliggender, som vi her beskæftiger os med, optræder der sådanne interessemodsætninger, og det er jo netop fællesskabsinstitutionernes opgave at udligne nationale interessemodsætninger.
And I would make the point here that artificial insemination is being very attractively boosted by the proposed subsidy that would be paid.