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Jeg har til hensigt, hvis denne situation varer ved, og hvis Klinkenborg-betænkningen vedtages — jeg vender tilbage hertil om lidt — at indstævne den franske regering i henhold til artikel 177 i traktaten, fordi der hersker utålelige forhold på en del af det frariske territorium og følgelig i en del af Europa.
Will it not be annoyed when it wishes to make proposals in accord ance with the Treaties, and Parliament, which com plains about not having enough power, backs down at the very moment it has some power, and all this just to maintain certain monopolies and certain outrageous advantages enjoyed by some national airlines.
Jeg er også meget glad for, at jeg har mulighed for at flyve, hvis blot det er på bedre vilkår og til rimeligere priser end de høje, jeg må betale på nuværende tids punkt.
What I have to say therefore is that we consumers want a much better service; we want to be treated as citizens of Europe who wish that the whole system could function in an orderly manner.
Men allerede på det tidspunkt, hvor jeg nær mer mig min destination, begynder jeg at blive nervøs: jeg håber så inderligt, at det kan lykkes mig at komme hjem igen.
As a true liberal, therefore, I must say that there is no liberalism in this area.
Det er nemlig ikke altid lige nemt; den ene gang efter den anden står jeg i lufthavnen i Bruxelles — undskyld jeg bliver nødt at nævne det så konkret — med min OK-billet.
There are no proper conditions of competition and, as a liberal, I have always sait that we must have liberalization and conditions of competition such that the interests of the citizens of Europe are properly served.
Men da jeg ikke eksisterer på skærmen, må jeg på venteliste. De skal bare være tålmodig.
Here in Parliament, we vote our support for a Europe of the citizens; let us also liberalize here.
Det beroliger mig ikke spor, for den person, der står lige foran mig ved check-in, har også fået løfte om, at han er nr. 1 på ventelisten, og det kan vi jo ikke begge være.
I should also like to say to my colleagues, especially those living in small countries on the periphery of the Community that they are wrong in wanting to defend this monopoly system.
Så står vi efterhånden 15-20 mennesker, som er på venteliste, og hjertet sidder helt oppe i halsen, og luft kan man næsten ikke få, for hvis det nu er sidste flyafgang og man forfærdelig gerne vil hjem for at vaske sit tøj for at kunne rejse ud næste morgen igen, er det ikke rart at strande i en luft havn.
Why are they wrong? Because their own airline bosses have said it — and written it — often enough: what they are interested in is access to the entire Community market and not in being limited only to their own routes because the larger air lines have divided up the Community market among themselves.
Det tager hensyn til brugernes interesser, til forbrugernes! iriteresser.
A return ticket from Ajaccio to Paris costs 1 900 francs.
Det vil reducere statsmonopolet og ophæve de skandaløse aftaler mellem bestemte selskaber på bestemte ruter.
It is almost as expensive as a ticket from Paris to New York; the schedules are inconvenient, so that if one leaves in the morning one might just have a chance of arriving in the evening.
Og mens jég her til morgen hørte alle — uden hensyn til politisk retning — glæde sig over det søgsmål, som Euro pa-Parlamentet havde, vundet, ser riian så ikke, at hr. Klinkenborg i sin betænkning netop foreslår at ind ordne Fællesskabets politik under medlemsstaterne. Dette ville betyde et tilbageskridt.
And then we must be sure that the planes are not suddenly grounded by a technical fault or that there is not, as if fortuitously in the tourist season, a strike within this monopoly which results in my poor little country not being able to develop its ' tourist industry.
Derfor må vi sige: vi forbrugere ønsker en langt bedre service; vi ønsker at blive behandlet som borgere i Europa, der gerne vil have, at det hele fungerer på ordentlig måde. Det er derfor, jeg som sand liberal, må sige, at der ikke er liberalisme på dette område.
It is very easy, of course, for an employee of a monopoly company, confident of his impunity, to treat passengers in that way, while some of them, myself included, gentlemen, take three planes to get from Ajaccio to Strasbourg and two planes to get from Ajaccio to Brussels with long hours of wait ing in airports.
Der er ikke ordentlige konkurrenceforhold, og som liberal har jeg altid sagt, at vi skal have liberalisering og konkurrenceforhold; så kan borgerne i Europa også være tjent med det.
I find it absurd that a country like France, which could build Concorde, cannot provide a direct air link between two of its cities, that is, Ajaccio and Marseille or Ajaccio and Paris.
Vi her i Parlamentet stem mer jo for borgernes Europa, lad os så også liberalisere her.
If such a situation should persist and if Mr Klingenborg's report
Parlamentet har vundet sit søgsmål og glæder sig der over.
I shall refer now to somebody who is no longer in this Chamber and who earlier referred to Corsica in his speech — I think it was Mr Kuijpers.
Skal vi i dag eller i morgen overvære en afstem ning, der går imod dette princip?
I agree whole heartedly with what he said about Corsica, but with
Jeg blev ligeledes yderst forbavset over at høre vore kolleger, hr. Newton Dunns og hr. Wijsenbeeks ind læg.
I should simply like to point out that he is incorrect in his statement that Corsica flourished in the eighteenth century.
Ifølge, dem skulle Klinkenborg-betænkningen på en eller anden måde forsvare monopolernes interesser.
At that time, Corsica was at war with Genoa and it did not see a drop in its for tunes when it became French.
De, der kender hr. Klinkenborg, ved, at han har arbejdet hårdt på noget helt andet, nemlig på at udarbejde en betænkning, som kan vedtages af hele Parlamentet.
France is Corsica, Corsica is France but state monopolies are intolerable and I shall vote against your report, Mr Klingenborg, because it is against the interests of the European Community and those of the small country I live in.
Hvorfor tager de fejl?
(Applause from the right)
Klinkenborg-betænkningep er frugten af et væsentligt forskningsarbejde og mange overvejelser.
These are virtually bilateral agreements with an allocation of capacity between two companies, on a 50:50 basis.
Spørgeskemaer er blevet udsendt til alle implicerede parter, og en offentlig, høring har fundet sted.
What we need here is regulation to create improvements in European air transport in the interests of the users, the airlines and the airline employees.
Endelig nåede transportudvalget i aftes frem til en konsensus, som jeg formoder vil gøre det muligt for de franske socialister at stemme for Klinkenborg-betænkningen i af ten.
The Commission memorandum now proposes an overall framework for Community air transport policy in order to improve the efficiency and profitability of the air transport sector, but also to improve its quality and perhaps actually lead to price regulations.
Så vidt jeg kan se ud fra de elementer, der var til min rådighed indtil i går, udgør den en gylden middelvej, som vil kunne forene de modsatrettede synspunkter hos tilhængerne af en ekstrem liberalisering — og man ved jo, hvad noget sådant fører til — og synspunkterne hos tilhængerne af status qko.
I must confess that Commissioners Clinton Davis and Sutherland wanted to introduce an idea which Parliament in fact ought to favour, namely bringing back into force the rules of competition of the EEC Treaty in air transport too.
Det er næsten ligeså dyrt: som en billet Paris-New York, og oven i købet med en fuldstændig uhensigtsmæssig fartplan, således at man, når .man tager af sted om morgenen, har en chance for at nå frem om aftenen !
I live in Marseille which is, of course, the principle Corsican town because I think the most Corsicans are to be found there, and I also have to take two airplanes to come to Strasbourg and two airplanes to go to Brussels.
Under forudsætning af at maskinerne ikke pludselig rammes af en skade, eller at der ikke — som ved et tilfælde næsten altid i turistsæsonen, — udbryder en strejke inden for dette monopol med det resultat, at min stakkels lille hjemø ikke engang kan udvikle sin turisme.
That being said, as far as the monopoly enjoyed by Air Inter is concerned, perhaps your friends could give you a more detailed explanation as to why they had to create Air Inter and grant it a monopoly for Corsica and other French cities.
Betænkningen går faktisk ind for substantielle for holdsregler til smidiggørelse af konkurrencen og kan således imødekomme et bredt publikums behov, samtidig med at den bevarer grundlaget for den regulering af lufttransporten, som har bevist sin effektivitet gennem 40 år.
I was very surprised by the statements of Mr Newton Dunn and Mr Wijsenbeek because they seemed to think that the Klinkenborg report was defending to some extent the interests of the monopolies. Those who know Mr Klinkenborg know that he was con cerned with something quite different: trying to put together a report which would be passed by this House as a whole.
Jeg gentager: vi må meget nøjere un dersøge, hvad der blev besluttet i går aftes. Hvis disse ændringer går i Deres retning, hr. Klinkenborg, kan De være forsikret om de franske socialisters fulde og hele støtte.
This is also in line with Parliament's demands, as put forward here several times with a view to a new action programme in transport policy and as I put them in a motion for a resolution on the grey and black market in air transport.
Jeg henvender mig nu til én, som ikke længere er i salen, og som for lidt siden refererede til Korsika i sit indlæg: Jeg tror, det var hr. Kuypers — og jeg slutter mig fuldt òg helt til det, han sagde om Korsika.
This of course works in favour of the most resourceful travel agencies, while the old lady who lives far away has to pay the official fare.
Men jeg gør det med større lidenskab end han, fordi deter mit land.
This legal uncertainty and the lack of transparency should therefore be remedied with a view to more tariff honesty.
Blot vil jeg sige til ham, at hari tager fejl, når han siger, at Korsika blomstrede i det 18. århundrede.
The hearing which took place here shows that deregulation on the American model is not possible.
I det 18. århundrede var Korsika i krig med Genua, og øen blev ikke fattig fra det øjeblik, den blev fransk.
Our European air transport market is completely different from the American market.
Braun-Moser (PPE). - (DE) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, jeg vil gerne ganske kort komme ind på forhistorien.
Much research and thought has gone into Mr Klinkgenborg's report.
Her er en regulering nødvendig, ved hjælp af hvilken der inden for den europæiske lufttransport skabes forbedringer i forbrugernes, luftselskabernes og deres ansattes interesse. resse.
This report, from what I saw of it yesterday eve ning, seems to strike a balance between the opposing views of advocates of unlimited deregulation — and we all know where that will lead us — and those in favour of maintaining the status quo.
Loo (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, det var min ven, hr. Fatous, der her til morgen skulle tage ordet til Klinkenborgbetænkningen.
The role the EEC is now to play in civil aviation was described in Mr Klinkenborg's report.
Jeg har lyttet til min ven, min korsikanske kollegas meget stærke ind læg med Stor opmærksomhed.
At first this report was not exactly what my group and I in particular had actually expected.
Jeg kán fortælle ham, at jeg, der bor i Marseille, altså iden største korsikanske by, da jeg tror der er flest korsikanere i Marseille, også må tage to fly for at komme til Strasbourg og to fly for at komme til Bruxelles.
However, I must say, Mr Klinkenborg, you proved very flexible in the discussion this morning and you have made considerable changes in the last few hours.
Dette være Sagt med adresse til det artdet monopol ved siden af Air France, som De talte om, nemligvizr Inter — måske kan Deres venner redegøre mere detaljeret, end jeg er i stand til for de grunde, der har fået dem til at oprette Air Inter, og give det monopol på Korsika og andre franske byer.
In fact, while retaining the basic structure of the regu lar air transport system which has proven to be efficient over the last forty years, the report suggests measures designed to ease restrictions substantially, encourage competition and meet the needs of the public at large.
Jeg må indrømme, at kommissærerne Clinton Davis og Sutherland egentlig vil sætte noget i scene, som Parlamentet bør begunstige, nemlig igen at sætte EØF-traktatens kon kurrenceregler i kraft også for lufttransportens ved kommende.
That is why I would like to say to the BEUC, the European Bureau of Consumers' Unions, which wants the report rejected and/or wants substantial amend ments, that these substantial amendments have been made. So the Commission will not be driven into quite such a corner as was feared at first.
Kommissionen skal altså helt bestemt have frie hænder til øget konkurrence i flytrafikken.
Basically there were four points of dispute left in recent weeks.
Proyan (ED), — (EN) Hr. formand, det er almindeligt i Parlamentet at komplimentere, ordføreren for hans betænkning.
They concerned the relationship between Council and Commission, i. e. the question of who should draw up the list of criteria and who should examine it.
Jeg finder det vanskeligt her i formiddag rent faktisk at glæde mig over betænkningen, men jeg ser dog af den berømte eller skændige skrivelse, at hr. Klinkenborg har været omhyggelig med sit arbejde.
The other questions related to capacity and whether newcomers to this market should also be given opportunities, and of course to exemptions, i. e. whether there is a transitional period here or whether everything is to be left to the Council.
Målet et naturligvis skabelsen af et fællesskabsmarked, og dermed ville der også være ydet et bidrag til udbygningen af det interne marked.
services were poorer; opportunities for enterprise did not really exist— all to the detriment of the consumer.
Dette grå marked er præget af om gåelse af tarifbestemmelser, medens tarifferne på det sorte marked simpelthen underskrides, idet der med kunderne afregnes efter helt andre tariffer.
In 1982, competition was licensed to compete with British Airways between Heathrow, Edinburgh and Glasgow, as an example.
Derved begunstiges naturligvis de rejsebureauer, der er særlig snedige, medens den gamle morlil, som bor i' en afkrog, skal betale den officielle tarif.
Now we have improved services, lower fares and, believe it not, a 25% increase in traffic.
Nu viser den høring, der har fundet sted her, at en definitiv regulering efter amerikansk mønster ikke er mulig.
I agree entirely with what Mr Musso said in his very powerful speech. Civil aviation is hidebound and it is guided by rules and regulations.
Vort europæiske luftmarked er helt anderledes end det amerikanske marked.
We need cheaper fares if the European Community is to mean anything to anybody who lives on the periphery.
Vi har også hyppigt konkurrence mellem forskellige transportformer, mellem jernbane, landevej og fly.
Surely, if we pass this resolution we are discriminating against those who live on the periphery.
Vi kan ikke tillade, at Parlamentet bliver for ræder möd den sag, som vi alle er valgt til at repræsentere. Hf.
We managed to incorporate capacity variations in para graph 22, even if they are still too low.
Vi har også forpligtelser over for os selv og over for de fremtidige generationer, som vi er valgt til at opbygge et Europa for.
I also urge you to adopt our admendment to Article 1 (IV), so that the Council does not exercise control, but it is returned tò the Commission again.
Ønsker vi at blive opfattet som partiske og tilhængere af karteller og protektionisme og imod konkurrence? bestemt ikke.
So the Commission must quite definitely be given a free hand to ensure greater competition in air transport.
Hvis vi stemmer for Klinkenborg er vi imod traktatens interesser og imod Europa-Parlamentets interesser.
We also need movement in the aviation market in order to make it more transparent for the users.
Denne be tænkning var i begyndelsen ikke helt i overensstemmelse med det, min gruppe og jeg egentlig havde forestillet os, men jeg må sige, hr. Klinkenborg, De har i formiddag vist Dem meget fleksibel under for handlingen og har i de sidste timer indbragt væsentlige ændringer.
I find it difficult, this morning, actually to welcome the report, but I do realize from the famous, or infamous letter that Mr Klinkenborg has been diligent in his work.
Vi anlagde sag mod Rådet ont den interne transport, og nu er vi parate til at svigte Kommissionen i spørgsmålet om lufttransport. For himlens skyld, lad os være positive!
Since the production of the original air transport memorandum by the then Commissioner, Richard Burke, in 1979 much discussion and debate has taken place in the Committee on Transport and in this House.
Derfor vil jeg gerne sige til BEUG, kontoret for de europæiske forbrugerorganisationer, som gerne ser denne betænkning forkastet og/eller kræver væsentlige ændringer, at disse væsentlige ændringer er foretaget.
Six years ago the battle lines tended to be clearly drawn between the advocates of an open skies policy on the one hand, and those who defended the status quo on the other. Nowadays it is generally understood that United States-style deregulation cannot be applied to European air transport.
Således bliver Kommissionen ikke i samme grad lagt i spændetrøje, som det først måtte befrygtes.
There is, however, vast scope for improvement in the existing system.
I de sidste uger var der egentlig endnu fire omstridte punkter.
This has been clearly reflected in the Klinkenborg report.
De vedrørte forholdet mellem Råd og Kom mission, gjaldt altså spørgsmålet, hvem der skal op stille kriterier, og hvem der skal kontrollere derii.
I believe that the report shows a good under standing of the environment in which the complex European air transport system works.
Fprat nævne et eksempel var, British Airways i 1979 ineffektivt, statsejet, stærkt reguleret og beskyttet.
I believe that if this report is adopted, we shall be betraying the interests of free and fair competition and we shall be seen to have bowed to the vested interests of bureaucracy.
Bil letpriserne var højere, end de burde være, servicen var dårligere, muligheder for initiativ eksisterede ikke rigtig — alt sammen til skade for forbrugeren.
We cannot allow Parliament to become a traitor to the cause we have all been elected here to represent.
Nu har vi en bedre service, lavere billetpriser og, tro det eller ej, en trafikstigning på 25 %.
We are also under obligations to ourselves and to future generations that we are elected to build a Europe for.
Det er hvad konkurrence handler om.
Do we want to be. seen as biased and in favour of car tels and protectionism and against competition?
I år håber vi også på at få frihed til at fastsætte billetpriser og opnå en yderligere stigning.
Surely not. If we vote in favour of Klinkenborg we are against the interests of the Treaty and against the interests of the European Parliament.
Jeg er fuldkommen enig i det, hr. Musso sagde i sit meget virkningsfulde indlæg.
It is extraordinary that the rapporteur has swallowed the case of one lobbying group.
Vi, der kommer fra Skotland, ligesom hr. Musso kommer fra Korsika, er i Fællesskabets periferi.
We took the Council to court on inland transport and now we are prepared to let the Commission down on air transport.
Nu har vi stadig dette noget uklare betreb »kapacitetsforøgelser«.
To take an example, in 1979 British Airways were inefficient, state-owned, highly regulated and pro tected.
De skal afvises, hvis den økonomiske levedygtighed er berørt.
Fares were higher than they should have been;
Jeg går endvidere ind for, at vort ændringsforslag til artikel 1, IV vedtages, således at ikke Rådet udøver kon trol, men Kommissionen genindsættes.
I wish to confine myself to one particular aspect of the Klinkenborg report, an aspect which is of vital concern to me and to the people who sent me to this Parliament.
O'Donnell (PPE). - (EN) Hr. formand, denne seneste betænkning om lufttransport et en yderligere fase i
As a representative of a small island country on the periphery of the Com munity, and as one who has been for years involved and interested in regional development, I welcome the emphasis placed by Mr Klinkenborg in his report on the need for Community action to promote internal Community air transport in the interest of the regions of this Community.
den overordentlig vanskelige opgave med at udvikle en realistisk ög; hensigtsmæssig lufttransportpolitik i Fællesskabet.
O'Donnell we cannot have these so-called American conditions in Europe.
Siden det oprindelige lufttransportrhemorändum blev udarbejdet i 1979 af den daværende kommissær, Richard Burke, har der fundet mange diskussioner og drøftelser sted i transportudvalget og i Parlamentet.
I am not convinced of that, and I am not con vinced that there is any evidence to support that view — at least I am not aware of any such evidence.
Alle diskussioner og drøftelser gennem de seneste seks år har bevirket en bedre forståelse'af den europæiske luftfartssektor, og dette har igen ført til en mere realistisk holdning til udviklingen af en lufttransportpolitik, der passer til behovene og vilkårene i Fællesskabet.
At all events we should be able to draw upon the experience which the American systems can offer us, compared with the special conditions we think apply in Europe.
Jeg mener, derfor, at det eksisterende europæiske luft transportsystem ikke bør afvikles.
There is abundant evidence to prove that air transport can play a vital role in the economic development of the peripheral regions.
Jeg er imidlertid overbevist om, at forbedringer er nødvendige og mulige, og at større fleksibilitet er ønskelig.
In my own country we have seen how Shannon Airport has played a key role in the develop ment of tourism and industry.
Endelig me ner jeg, at et europæisk lufttransportsystem skal tage højde for de perifere regioners specielle problemer, og at disse problemer skal gives særlig opmærksom hed.
We have also seen that the provision of air services to the Aran Islands off the west coast have transformed the economic and social life of the people living there.
For seks år siden var kaplinjerne tilbøjelige til at være klart trukket op mellem talsmændene for en »åbenhimmel-politik« på den ene side og dem, der forsvarede status quo på den anden.
As Mr Newton Dunn has already pointed out, the European Democratic Group supports a liberalization of civil aviation, but the Klinkenborg report is not concerned with that at all.
Nu om stunder er man generelt set klar over, at en regelsanering i stil riièd den amerikanske ikke kan anvendes på den europæiske lufttransport. Der er imidlertid et umådeligt stort spillerum for forbedring i det eksisterende system.
Many speakers have for the past hour or more expressed a variety of feelings on the report: what the outcome will be if we vote for it in a given set of circumstances.
Dette er blevet afspejlet klart i Klinkenborg-betænkningen.
I am especially surprised that the Socialist Group gives such strong backing to it.
Jeg mener, at betænkningen viser en god for ståelse for det miljø, som det komplekse europæiske lufttransportsystem arbejder i.
In fact what will happen if we adopt the report is that there will never be air travel for anyone but the rich who can afford to drink champagne and brandy from 9 o'clock in the morning. That is not what we want.
De fleste aspekter i Klinkenborg-betænkningen, er blevet behandlet af de medlemmer, der allerede har talt her i formiddag.
Air travel must be for everyone, including those who cannot afford 5 000 kroner for a flight from Copenhagen to Brussels.
Jeg ørisker at begrænse mig til et
It is in the consumers' interest.
Oppenheim (ED). — Hr. formand, i oktober 1981 debatterede Europa-Parlamentet med begejstring liberalisering af lufttrafik.
Because of these special circumstances I am convinced that any drastic or major changes in the existing European air transport system could be fraught with serious consequences for Ireland.