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Jeg mener således også, at dette forslag ville forstyrre ligevægten mellem Kommission og Parlament og for øvrigt heller ikke er nødvendigt for en hensigtsmæssig gennemførelse af budgettet.
Consequently I shall vote in favour of Mr Hänsch's amendment which states that this permanent secre­tariat should be situated in the city in which the Council meets most frequently.
Forslag til beslutning fremsat af Abens og andre (dok.
Mr Andriessen, Member of the Commission. ■— (NL) Madam President, it has been pointed out in the course of this debate that the institutional debate is as old as the Community itself.
1-889/80/ændr.) om nedsættelse af et ad hoc-udvalg for udarbejdelse af forslag vedrørende Fællesskabets stilling og fremtidige udvikling.
This is in fact the case and I think things will remain this way, not only because we are still far from our ultimate objective, but also because Europe is a dynamic entity which must continue to develop, which in turn means that the institutional bases must constantly be considered and reconsidered.
Spinelli. — (FR) Frulformand, jeg kan stemme for fru Fockes ændringsforslag, og hvis det bliver vedtaget, må det betyde, at det ændringsforslag, som er fremsat af Price, falder væk.
For this reason, Madam Presi­dent, I should like to begin by thanking the various rapporteurs for their reports and those who have taken initiatives which go beyond the current institutional problems insofar as they are covered by the Treaties.
Spinelli. — (FR) I så fald kan vi gå ind for ændringsforslag nr. 4, men ikke for ændringsforslag nr. 11.
Adding a new dimension to political cooperation is one thing, placing it under the democratic control of Parliament is quite another, and in our view the latter is the more important of the two.
Fru formand, jeg er navnlig kommet ind på betænkningerne af Hänsch og Van Miert.
On this point as well, the report is satisfactory for us.
Det vil ikke sige, at jeg undervurderer den store betydning, de andre betænkninger om forholdet mellem Europa-Parlamentet og de nationale parlamenter — Diligentbetænkningen — og om forbindelserne mellem Parlamentet og Det økonomiske og sociale Udvalg — Baduel Glorioso-betænkningen — har.
Because, when one has practical experience of the open scorn — even though it may be shrouded in a veil of diplomacy — which the Directors­General of the Political Committee show towards their respective Parliaments, but perhaps to an even greater extent towards us then one can see exactly just how far we still have to go ...
Forskellen mellem økonomisk og politisk samarbejde er iøvrigt ofte kun en kunstig forskel.
The establishment of systematic procedures aimed at real and wide­ranging coopera­tion has become necessary.
Disse to former for samarbejde ligger for det meste i forlængelse af hinanden og burde også i højere grad overlappe hinanden, således som det i sin tid blev bemærket i Tindemans-betænkningen.
In order to become a player on the world stage, it is not sufficient, as is stated in lectures on public law, to have a territory, a population and an army, States, or groups of States, need to have in addition an overall vision of their economic, political and even moral objectives.
Efter andet led i præamblet — ændringsforshg nr. 12/ændr./II
Its very basis is the outcome of options and decisions which commit the whole future of our peoples, options and decisions which must be arrived at demo­cracically and in which this House should play its part to the full.
Spinelli. — (FR) Vi kan tilslutte os dette ændringsforslag med undtagelse af afstemningen punkt for punkt.
The high level at which the debate on this important issue has been conducted during these days lead me to hope that things will go better in the institutional field in the future than in various other fields in the Community in recent years.
(') Referatet omfatter kun de dele af afstemningen, som gav anledning til indlæg.
In his speech yesterday, Mr Thorn placed the institu­tional debate in a broader context.
En detaljeret redegørelse for afstemningerne foreligger i protokollen. kollen.
He drew attention — in the report on the mandate, which we have ampli­fied — to the need to develop European policy and to bring about further integration in several fields.
Danmark gav til vælgerne ved folkeafstemningen. Det gælder budgetreformforslag om ændring af land brugsordningerne og bortfald af momsloftet.
find our bearings and will be an exceptionally useful preparation for drawing up this document and the subsequent debate in the course of this year.
Det gælder ønskerne om at afskaffe vetoretten. Det gælder overførsel af mange millioner kroner fra den danske statskasse til England.
In the Commission's view it would not be doing justice to the importance of the question in hand and the high quality of the contributions made if we were to be too hasty in taking a stance with regard to all the individual aspects of the various reports.
Det gælder samtlige planer om Parlamentets magtudvidelse, og det gælder først og fremmest lady Elles' betænknings forsøg på at legalisere den fælles udenrigspolitik, i modstrid med Romtraktaten. Vi kan ikke bære det, og derfor må jeg stemme nej over hele linjen. "
However, it may have become clear from what I have said that it is not anticipated that the negative view which has provision ally been taken with regard to the proposals will change.
Hammerich. — Fru formand, det kan umuligt blot være os modstandere af dansk medlemskab af EF, som er nødt til at stemme nej til denne parade af forslag, som har været fremme i denne uge.
Secondly, the people of Europe must also have a say in policy of this kind and for this reason the Commission regards it as vital that the European Parliament, as the directly elected representation of the people of Europe, should be able to exert a real influence on the drawing up and implementation of this policy.
Jeg er overbevist om, at problemerne må være langt vanskeligere for andre danske medlemmer, som i og for sig gerne ville imødekomme Parlamentets forhåbninger, men som på den anden side har respekt for valgløfter, traktater og jura.
The Hänsch and van Miert reports in particular deal very specifically with the problem of finding ways of increasing this influence at all the various stages in policy-making, i.e. preparation, formulation and implementation.
Derfor kan jeg slet ikke forstå, at hr. Kirk, som vel tilhører et parti, som har afgivet højtidelige løfter til vælgerne, f.eks. om bevarelse af vetoretten, i går her i salen kunne spørge, om det ikke var udemokratisk, når EF-modstandere modsatte sig udvidelsen af Parlamentets beføjelser.
The Commission shares the view that Parliament's influence in these areas is at present inad-, equate, but I must unfortunately add that the Commission too has come to have less influencé over the last few years as a result, as I see it, not so much of a lack of political courage or ingenuity on the part of the Commission, but more as a result of the fact that the Council has become increasingly intergovernmental in character.
Bonde. —- Jeg forstår ikke helt, at det er så svært at få ørenlyd i denne sal. De, der repræsenterer det ene standpunkt i denne sal, har tilsammen lige så meget taletid i minutter som dem, der repræsenterer et andet standpunkt, har taletid i timer.
I should also like to say that Parliament has approached this debate realistically.
Men som den undtagelse, der bekræfter reglen, så vil jeg godt følge Willy Brandts opfordring til at tale et andet sprog end det, jeg plejer at bruge hernede.
I might remind you of the observation made by Mr Prout on behalf of the Legal Affairs Committee — with the support of
Vi har i vor grundlov meget stærke garantier i forhold til omfanget af afgivelse af dansk suverænitet.
Mrs Focke, among others — to the effect that Parlia: ment must first of all fully exploit rights which it
For mit modersmål det kan vel næsten være lige så godt, som Niels Jørgen Haagerups engelsk, og netop det sønderjydske sprog, det er før blevet brugt til at sige nej til en union.
A clear example of this is the fact that the Council sometimes fails to discuss proposals which it has itself invited the Commission to submit, for example, as regards transport policy.
Vi har prøvet, hvordan det er at lade alle bestemme. Vi har prøvet, hvordan det er at bruge et andet sprog end sit eget.
This is connected with the fact that — and this is something which very many speakers have gone into in great detail in this debate — decisions are made in the Council by consensus in , practically all cases.
Vi har sågar set sønderjyder blive smidt ud af landet, fordi de lærte deres børn at skrive dansk efter skoletid.
Unanimity is unfortunately not the exception but the rule and this has led to a shift in the institutional balance which has undoubtedly been at the expense of the Commission too.
Vi siger fra, vi stemmer nej, og vi vil opfordre alle danskere til at få fat i trillebøren og køre unionsplanerne ud på møddingen.
A return to a situation in which the Treaties operated as they were intended would in itself represent an important contribution to solving the problems before us here today.
De udvidelser af EF-Parlamentets beføjelser på bekostning af de nationale parlamenter, som man går ind for i den foreliggende betænkning, ligger helt uden for Romtraktaten.
This in no way means — and Mr Thorn drew attention to this yesterday too — that the Commission would oppose the ideas and initiatives which have been discussed here, i.e. the proposals to go beyond the existing Treaties with a view to amending them or even introducing a new Treaty.
Derfor vil Parlamentet med et sådant forslag fremtvinge en forfatningsmæssig strid mellem EF og et medlemsland, og det vil skabe en konflikt mellem visse danske delegeredes loyalitet over for henholdsvis EF og deres lands forfatning.
On the contrary, the Commission takes the view that these two ideas are in line with each other except that — certainly as far as the small steps in the context of the existing Treaty are concerned — account' must naturally be taken of the individual responsibility and competency of the various Community bodies.
Quin. — (EN) Det er meget tøvende og med en helt anden begrundelse end dem, vi netop har hørt, át jeg også må sige, at jeg vil stemme imod dette forslag til beslutning.
I should like, against this background to make a number of comments on the basis of the various func tions of this Parliament.
Quin pæiske institutioner, idet jeg mener, at en sådan reforrn er særdeles påkrævet, da den eksisterende beslutningsproces ikke fungerer godt.
Andriessen for the Commission, before tabling proposals, to take the political temperature, as it were, and find out what Parliament thinks of our intentions.
Gennem det sidste halve år har et flertal af medlemmerne i denne forsamling jævnligt forlangt, at Rådet skulle tage beslutning om et enkelt mødested for Parlamentet, og der var nærmest enstemmig fordømmelse af Rådet, da det ikke var i stand til at træffe en beslutning i Maastricht.
It has enough opportunities and I must say that I have noticed that it is sometimes very effective in practice.
Vi har nu gjort os selv totalt til grin ved ikke engang selv at være i stand til at tage en beslutning. Det var forbløffende at se, at der var flere medlemmer til stede ved afstemningen om Europa-Parlamentets samlingssted, end der var ved afstemningen om reformen af den fælles landbrugspolitik.
What I would like to say is that the Commission is fully prepared to be 100 % at Parliament's disposal so that it can really carry out its controlling function.
Parlamentet har været ude af stand til at beslutte sig for et enkelt samlingssted, og jeg har bemærket, at mange af de medlemmer, der hører til blandt krokodilleklub-beslutningens underskrivere, i denne samling har stemt for at bevare status quo, og at de var ude af stand til at bestemme sig for det ene eller det andet samlingssted.
It also means that we are fully prepared to take account of these proposals and to inform Parliament or the Committees of the line the Commission is taking in the decisionmaking process, particularly as regards amendments introduced by Parliament.
Det er derfor med stor skuffelse, jeg må konkludere, at Parlamentet ikke er i stand til at tage beslutninger, som umiddelbart vil gøre det mere effektivt.
'Information, openness and consultation' shall be our motto, with a view to helping you carry out your controlling func tion as effectively as possible.
Baillot. — (FR) Fru formand, gruppen af franske kommunister og beslægtede vil ikke stemme for Abens' forslag til beslutning. Vi mener ikke,. at løsningen på Fællesskabets problemer ligger i at frem stille nye institutionelle instrumenter og nedsætte et ad hocudvalg, således som der her er foreslået.
Madam President, a major proportion of the debate yesterday and today has been devoted to Parliament's possibilities for influencing the legislative procedure in the Community, in other words, the extent to which its consultative function may develop into a real influence on the decisionmaking process and hence the actual policy adopted.
Vi har set medlemmer kravle ud af Parlamentets vaklende rønne for at bidrage yderligere til nedbrydningen af institutionens troværdighed og selv respekt.
As I explained on that occasion, I regard these provisions more as optimizing Parliament's powers than as undermining the powers of the other institutions.
Det var disse- medlemmer, som var de centrale figurer, da der skulle skaffes et flertal for at forhindre ethvert effektivt forsøg på at finde et enkelt samlingssted, hvor Parlamentet kunne have en chance for at arbejde effektivt uden at skulle belastes med problemerne i forbindelse med at arbejde flere steder og de tillægsomkostninger på 18 mio. £, der går til at holde denne kakofoniske karavane igang uden hensyn til omkostninger og de begrænsninger, der ligger på medlemmernes arbejdsevne rundt om i Fællesskabet. I tirsdags forskertsede vi vore muligheder for at tage en beslutning ...
I should like to add that I can easily go along with the ideas underlying para graphs 12 to 15 of the motion for a resolution by Mr Hänsch and paragraphs 6 to 10 of the motion for a resolution by Mr Van Miert, with the proviso that on the one hand we must respect the prerogatives of other institutions in this area too and on the other hand that the actual form these things will take calls for further discussion.
Som hr. Thorn har fremført under forhandlingen, ville det allerede være et stort fremskridt, hvis man bare holdt sig til traktaterne.
I am therefore grateful to Mr Van Aerssen for pointing out that flexible and.pragmatic solutions must be found to· these problems and, of course, for the complementary remarks he addressed to me.
Der er helt klart sket forbedringer i institutionernes funktion, og Jacques Denis har i sit indlæg her i formiddags fremsat forslag til yderligere forbedringer.
Firstly, it is perhaps a good idea to repeat once more what Mr Thorn said regarding the Commission's own position.
Vi ønsker, at forsamlingen skal udfylde den kontrollerende funktion, der er dens ret.
One of the most important prerogatives of the Commission is its right to initiate legislation and we wish to maintain this prerogative — indeed we think it would be unfortunate if Parliament's powers were to be extended at the expense of the Commission's independence.
Vi ønsker, at de forskellige europæiske institu tioner skal høre hinanden og blive enige, men vi ønsker ikke at sammenblande og bytte om på magt forholdene.
However, the opposite is perhaps more likely, i.e. that a strong Commission would automatically strengthen the position of Parliament.
Formanden. — De har opbrugt Deres taletid, hr. Griffiths, og jeg giver ordet til hr. Pannella. V,
I agree with Mr Irmer that the Commission should make use of its prerogatives vis-à-vis the Council too.
Pannella. — (FR) Fru formand, jeg er ikke ked af, at Parlamentet i de forløbne dage ikke har truffet beslutning om at samles i kælderen i Kommissionen eller NATO·.
I can assure you that, as the President said when presenting his programme in February, the Commission also endeavours to do this in practice.
For øjeblikket er jeg godt tilfreds, selv om jeg ikke kan sige, at jeg er helt lykkelig.
I am pleased at the fact that this figures very clearly among the ideas contained in the Van Miert report.
Efter vores mening afhænger forsamlingens autoritet, og i særdeleshed den interesse, som folkene viser, af en demokratisering af de institutioner, vi er tilknyttet.
The Commission wishes to maintain the right to say why it cannot go along with Parliament in one way or another, and I think this must be my answer to the specific questions put by Mr Patterson.
Men jeg er bestemt ikke tilfreds med, at dette Parlament ikke tillader alle de politiske grupper og alle parlamentarikerne at deltage i forhandlingerne. Deres regler lægger os hindringer i vejen nu, fordi vi kun råder over et eller halvandet minuts taletid til at frem komme med bemærkninger til dette dokument.
Having said this, it is also easier for me to tell you that the Commission fully realizes that Parliament's position, regardless of the stage the decision-making· process has reached, is in many cases an unmistakable political fact which the Commission should and will take very much into account.
Griffiths. — (EN) Fru formand, i lighed med fru Quin ønsker jeg ikke at stemme for dette forslag til beslutning, selv om dets formål er at effektivisere arbejdet i Europa-Parlamentet, fordi et flertal af denne forsamling, herunder også mange underskrivere af dette forslag, i tirsdags viste, hvor utroligt ineffektivt de arbejder.
Madam President, you know as well as I do that it occasionally happens that certain proposals are rejected because groups with diametrically opposing views manage to reach agreement, 'whereas it might well be that the Commission proposal is the most balanced and reasonable.
For at protestere mod dette, som ikke er et Parlament værdigt, og også fordi man har udskudt det hele til december, hvor vi får rigeligt andet at gøre, og selv om jeg hører til underskriverne af forslaget, vil jeg afholde mig fra at stemme, for jeg har ikke tillid til denne forsamlings flertal.
What this means in practical terms is that we agree with Parliament that in the case of major issues, for example, decisions of fundamental importance for the development of the Community, it is extremely useful
Efter vores mening vil dette forslag, som jeg tror vil blive bakket op af det store flertal, endog være Parlamentets hidtil betyde ligste politiske handling for så vidt som den pålægger os et vældigt ansvar.
Finally, I should like to say that if Parlia ment wants to use the Commission in this procedure to give it some leverage with a view to gaining greater influence on the decisionmaking process. — whilst basically taking account of each other's own responsibility, the Commission is in favour of this.
Ærede medlemmer, vi er ved at slå ind på en vej, som er fuld af vanskeligheder og farer, men vi tror på, at Europa-Parlamentet vil have styrke til at følge denne vej til dens slutning.
As I have already pointed out, the Council is a vital element in the entire decisionmaking process and this is the way things are, whether we like it or not.
Hänsch, ordfører — (DE) Jeg er imod, fru formand. Det går ud over de retningslinjer, vi har sat, nemlig at blive inden for traktaternes rammer.
For this reason, it is absolutely vital that the Council should be actively involved in the institutional debates — and as soon as possible, in my view.
(Parlamentet vedtog forslaget)
However, an element of commit ment will be required.
Klepsch. — (DE) Min gruppe anmoder om opdelt afstemning om punkt 11 litra a) og punkt 11 litra b).
I go along with several members of this Parliament in regarding the consultation procedure as a good way of approaching this problem.
Formanden. — Vi går nu over til afstemningen om forslag til beslutning i Hansch-betænkningen (dok.
At any rate, the distinction between economic and political cooperation is often only an artificial one.
1-216/81) om forbindelserne mellem Europa-Parlamentet og Rådet for De europæiske Fællesskaber.
These two forms of cooperation are interrelated and should overlap to a greater extent, as has already been pointed out in the Tindemans report.
Hänsch, ordfører. — (DE) Jeg er imod ændringsforslag nr. 7 af Israel.
I agree with those who said that this procedure leaves room for improvement.
Hänsch, ordfører. — (DE) Fru formand, hr. Israels ændringsforslag stemmer ikke overens med virkelig heden, og hr. Prouts ændringsforslag stemmer ikke overens med traktaterne — min egen tekst ligger nærmere ved traktatens tekst. Derfor er jeg imod begge ændringsforslag.
Quite apart from this institutional debate, we have discussed a number of subjects over the last few days which in principle would lend them selves very well to consultation between the Council, Commission and Parliament.
Punkt 15 litra c) — ændringsforslag nr. 8
Madam President, one final remark.
Hänsch, ordfører. — (DE) Jeg er imod dette ændringsforslag.
This does not mean, however, that it is not looking further in the direction of a revision of the Treaties in such a way as to increase Parliament's powers.
Det betyder en fuldstændig ændring af det kompromis, som det politiske udvalg kun. med stort besvær er nået frem til.
I should like to repeat that I am in favour of initiatives of this kind which I see as evidence of the vitality of this Parliament.
Hänsch, ordfører. — (DE) Fru formand, jeg er imod dette ændringsforslag.
I think it is a good thing, therefore, that initiatives such as this — for which Mr Spinelli is responsible on the basis of previous suggestions made in this Parliament by, for example, Mr Jonker — have been taken by the European Parlia ment.
Punkt 2 litra a) — ændringsforshg nr. 20
Mr Thorn spoke of a 'second-generation Europe'.
Hänsch, ordfører. — (DE) Fru formand, den del af betænkningen, der drejer sig om budgetproceduren, er affattet i samråd med budgetudvalget.
I agree with him that Parliament's voice must also be heard in working out what form this Europe should take.
Hr. Israels forslag vil få resultaterne af dette samarbejde til at falde til jorden.
At the moment, the area in which the European Parliament can exert most influence is the budget and it had its powers in this field by no means handed to it on a plate.
Hänsch, ordfører. — (DE) Fru formand, jeg er også imod dette ændringsforslag.
Perhaps it is good for a representative of another institution to make this point in public for once.
Den tekst, som optræder i udvalgets betænkning, er et resultat af lange og vanskelige diskussioner, som endelig førte til et kompromis.
The Commission is to take part in this consultation and contribute as much as possible to finding approaches which might result in a more efficient budgetary procedure.
Derfor ønsker vi at holde fast ved udvalgets tekst.
I can assure you that we give high priority to the respect of Parlia ment's competency in this respect.
Hänsch, ordfører. — (DE) Fru formand, jeg kan gå ind for ændringsforslaget, men jeg vil gerne påpege, at den sidste sætning i den tyske og i den italienske udgave indeholder en fejl. Jeg tror imidlertid, at De meget snart vil kunne få den korrekte tekst forelagt.
Madam President, this, as I see it, is the importance of today's institutional debate and I therefore attach the utmost importance to an improvement of the existing situation which will be possible over the next few years.
Hänsch, ordfører. — (DE) Jeg er imod dette ændringsforslag, eftersom det falder uden for betænkningens rammer. Det passer derfor ikke ind i betænkningen.
At this stage, I should like to comment on one single point contained in the motion for a resolution by Mr Hänsch, i.e. paragraph 19(d) where it is stated that transfers of appropriations are a matter for Parlia ment's decisionmaking structure and that the Financial Regulation should therefore be amended accord ingly.
Punkt 4 — ændringsforshg nr. 21
President. — The debate is closed.