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— i betragtning af Europa-Parlamentets beslutning for ikke længe siden om at lægge associeringen EØF— , Tyrkiet på is, give nærmere oplysninger om, hvorledes forbindelserne med Tyrkiet har været siden januar 1981?
However, the Community delegation announced to the Spanish delegation in July 1981 that in the coming months the Community intended to adopt the necessary measures in connection with the common fisheries policy.
Lord Trefgarne. — (EN) Jeg forstår, at der for øjeblikket er et forslag til behandling i Rådet med henblik på en forenkling af metoderne til indkrævning af moms, men de strukturelle basis for momsen er allerede blevet væsentligt harmoniseret, og det er da i det mindste et bemærkelsesværdigt resultat.
Lord Trefgarne, President-in-Office of the Council'. — The French Government's memorandum on giving a fresh impetus to the Community is one of the elements which have been presented to the Members of the
Vil Rådet bekræfte, at ingen medlemsstat har ret til at forhindre indførsel af biler, som dens egne statsborgere har købt i andre medlemsstater med betydelige besparelser, fordi detailpriserne er højere på dens eget hjemmemarked?
Council in their discussion on the mandate of 30 May 1980. The Council is not in a position to assess what savings would be made if the measures suggested in that memorandum were applied.
Ved denne lejlighed erindrede Fællesskabets delegation navnlig om den holdning, som medlemsstaternes udenrigsministre indtog i september 1980 for så vidt angår begivenhederne i Tyrkiet.
Could it at least say whether it is in favour, at least in principle, of modifying the financial regulation in such a way as to enable any sums which might be available in the budget to be utilized in a wholly institutional fashion to initiate new policies?
Lord Trefgarne, formand for Rådet. — (EN) Traktatens bestemmelser gør det faktisk ikke muligt for medlemsstaternes regeringer at forhindre egne stats borgere i at indføre motorkøretøjer fra andre medlemsstater af nævnte grund, dvs. et højere prisniveau på hjemmemarkedet.
Now that the French Government has suddenly adopted rigorous measures affecting prices and public spending, whereas it had proposed an expansionist budget 10 days earlier, can the Council state whether its own recommendations are the cause of this abrupt U-turn by the French authorities.
Rådet følger fortsat udviklingen i Tyrkiet meget nøje.
I call Question No 70, by Mrs Lenz (H-492/81):
Visse beslutninger, der i løbet af de sidste uger er truffet af de militærmyndigheder, der har magten i landet, har naturligvis forårsaget alvorlig bekymring i Fællesskabet.
Is the Council aware that, at certain frontiers in the Community, the European Community ¡aissez-passer issued by the President of the European Parliament is not recognized as a valid frontier document?
Jeg kan forsikre Dem om, at vi stadig betragter det som en sag af den største vigtighed, at de for nylig gentagne forsikringer fra den tyrkiske regerings side om tilbagevenden til et demokratisk, parlamentarisk styre bør få et konkret udtryk i nær fremtid.
What action does the Council intend to take in order to ensure general recognition of the rights of the institutions of the European Community?
Newton Dunn. — (EN) Er formanden for Rådet enig i, at det ene medlemsland blandt De Ti, hvis indbyggere insisterer på at have højrestyrede biler og på at køre i venstre side af vejen, har bidraget til opsplitningen af markedet, således er der er højere priser i det medlemsland, og vil han derfor tilskynde det medlemsland til at skifte over til højrekørsel?
Mr de la Malène. — (FR) Madam President, I find the comprehensive answer just given by the Council very interesting and, for the rest, the comprehensive, serious and thorough nature of the Council's replies is reflected in the interest shown in them by the Assembly.
Denis. — (FR) I betragtning af den ringe opfølgning, som dels Fællesskabet, dels dette Parlament har givet lovlige indgreb, er Rådet da ikke af den mening, at det under disse omstændigheder er på tide at træffe konkrete foranstaltninger for at få en afslutning på forbindelsen til en regering, der i den grad lader hånt om international lov?
However, to return to the matter in hand, I should like to ask the Council whether or not it attaches any importance to the problem of the alignment of the economies and economic policies?
Lord Trefgarne. — (EN) Jeg tvivler på, at de skridt, der foreslås af det ærede medlem, ville få det resultat, han ønsker.
Lord Trefgarne, President-in-Office of the Council. — In a letter dated 9 October 1981 the President of the European Parliament drew the Council's attention to the problem of recognition of the Community laissezpasser at frontier crossings.
Hvad angår Det europæiske Fællesskab, retter Rådet sig stadig efter den udtalelse, De Ni's udenrigsministre fremsatte den 15. september 1981.
The President-in-Office of the Council has brought this letter to the attention of each of the governments of the Member States so that, if necessary, they can give the requisite instructions for full observance of the rights attached to the holding of the Uissez-passer provided for in Article 7 of the Protocol on Privileges and Immunities of the European Communities.
Formanden. — Da spørgerne ikke er til stede, vil spørgsmål nr. 82 til 89 blive besvaret skriftligt (').
(Interruptions)
de la Malene. — (FR) Fru formand, jeg har forstået, at Rådet er stærkt optaget af situationen i Tyrkiet, og at det er en sag, der giver det grund til den alvorligste bekymring.
Mrs Lenz. — (DE) The President of the Council has just said that, if necessary, the requisite instructions can be given.
18.11.81 ledsagelse af bevæbnede sikkerhedsfolk og politi, netop for at de ikke skal slippe væk fra den vej, der til slut fører dem til at vildlede borgerne gennem en pseudo-genindførelse af demokratiet og parlamentet i Tyrkiet.
Does the Council consider that there is at present healthy competition between the financial and stock markets of the ten Member States of the Community; are not the rules applied by some financial markets actually at variance with, or in contravention of, the Treaty?
Lord Trefgarne. — (EN) Jeg vil ikke så gerne have, at man beder mig lægge en tidsplan for skridt, der skal tages af en regering, som jeg ikke er ansvarlig for, men det er ikke desto mindre tilfældet, at der er sket visse ting i Tyrkiet for nylig, som faktisk giver os anledning til håb, selv om jeg dog ikke kan skjule den bekymring, som jeg tidligere gav udtryk for, for Parlamentet.
Lord Trefgarne, President-in-Office of the Council. — It is for the Commission to ensure that the Treaty is applied and if necessary to take appropriate measures to promote the harmonious development of economic activities throughout the Community.
Lord Trefgarne. — (EN) Det ærede medlem har ret i at nævne, at der for tiden ikke eksisterer noget parlamentarisk demokrati som sådant i Tyrkiet.
Mr Deleau. — (FR) If I have understood correctly, the Council has no opinion on this matter, as in the case of many other matters.
Formanden. — Vi går nu over til spørgsmålene til udenrigsministrene.
Firstly, in principle, this is an internal matter for the French Government.
Hr. Galland har ordet til forretningsordenen.
President. — I call Question No 77, by Mr Remilly (H-515/81):
Galland. — (FR) Fru formand, vi har alle lige lært en fremragende lektie: De har nemlig lige, og det er vores fejl, ladet tredive spørgsmål passere på en halv time, hvilket er fuldstændigt unormalt i denne forsamling.
Mr de la Malène. — (FR) I am sorry to have to repeat, for the benefit of Mr Welsh who has come to the aid of his Council President, that this is not a ques tion of internal French politics, but a question which affects the Community and which is therefore a matter f or the Council.
Da spørgsmålene til udenrigsministrene normalt begynder kl. 18.30, kunne man så ikke indtil da komme tilbage til spørgsmål fra den første afdeling, da en række af spørgerne nu er til stede?
What I am asking the Council is whether it is interested in the alignment of the economic policies of the Member States. This is what' my question is about — it is not a matter of internal politics nor a matter concerning Parliament.
Formanden. — Vi vil se, hvad vi kan gøre i den henseende efter at have behandlet spørgsmålene vedrørende det politiske samarbejde.
Lord Trefgarne. — It may help the honourable gentleman if I add to what I said previously, namely, that the Council of Finance Ministers agreed, in its quarterly review of the economic situation in the
van Minnen. — (NL) Kan jeg ud af de svar, som formanden for Rådet har givet, konkludere, at Rådet virkelig er af den mening, at de seneste skridt i Tyrkiet, især hvad angår udelukkelsen af de politiske partier fra forfatningskommissionen samt fordømmelsen af den socialistiske leder Ecevit, at det er skridt i retning af mere demokrati?
Mr Seligman. — Is the Council aware that the negotiations on gas prices with the Russians and other non-Member States indicate that there is going to be a massive rise in gas prices which is going to greatly upset the gas pricing arrangements in the Community? This is something which we should really be very careful about and watch very carefully, otherwise our industry is going to be damaged.
Lord Trefgarne, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (EN) Reglerne for det politiske samarbejde tillader ikke, at der svares på spørgsmål om indenrigspolitiske affærer i et eller flere medlemslande.
Lord Trefgarne. — Perhaps I could add for the benefit of honourable Members that so far as harmonization is concerned, provisions have already been adopted in, for example, the fields of value-added tax and duty on tobacco products, as well as directives on mutual assistance, tax and duty allowances for travellers and capital duty.
Lord Trefgarne. — (EN) Som jeg allerede har sagt to-tre gange, er situationen i Tyrkiet langt fra tilfredsstillende, men den tyrkiske regering er bestemt ikke i tvivl om Rådets synspunkter.
Lord Trefgarne. — I am not certain that it is for the Council to intervene in negotiations between suppliers and consumers in this matter.. But it is essential, I think, that prices paid to producers are realistic.
Må jeg til ministeren sige, at der blev spurgt så bredt som muligt og i fuld erkendelse af de fordele for Fællesskabet, som en tilfredsstillende løsning på den nuværende spændte situation i Irland ville bevirke?
Sir John Stewart-Clark. — I am glad that the Council seems to say that there is a point from where it is starting, because I would like to ask the following' question.
Det er på det grundlag, spørgsmål blev stillet, og jeg synes, at svaret helt går uden om denne tanke og ikke på nogen måde forsøger at behandle spørgsmålet.
What measures is the Council taking to simplify the collection of VAT in the different Member States, with particular reference to helping small and medium-sized enterprises that are still considerably under pressure in each State from the bureau cratic mechanisms which operate to the detriment of these businesses?
Måske har ministeren lidt mere at sige under hensyntagen til den sammenhæng, spørgsmålet blev stillet i?
In view of the development of direct and indirect taxation in each of the Member States, is it possible for the Council to conclude that there has been any progress on fiscal harmonization at European level?
Sieglerschmidt. — (DE) Min kollega van Minnen har netop stillet det spørgsmål, som jeg også ville stille.
Lord Trefgarne, President-in-Office of the Council. — The Council has not expressed an opinion on the question of whether in general the tax laws adopted nationally indicate a convergence of the fiscal policies of the Member States.
Mener formanden for Rådet virkelig, at den konstituerende forsamling, der blev sammenkaldt på udemokratisk vis og efter ordre, også kan betegnes som fremskridt?
Lord Trefgarne. — I understand that there is a proposal at present before the Council in respect of the simplification of VAT collection procedures, but the structural basis of VAT has already been substantially harmonized, and that at least is a significant achievement.
Er det ikke en næsten kynisk beskrivelse af situationen i Tyrkiet?
President. — Since their authors are absent, Questions Nos 79 and 80 will receive written replies.1
Lord Trefgarne. — (EN) Jeg kan ikke foregive, at det skridt, jeg omtalte, var ret meget mere end et meget lille skridt, men det var det ikke desto mindre, og jeg håber, at jeg med tiden kan oplyse Parlamentet om bedre fremskridt.
Will the Council confirm that no member government may prevent imports of motor cars purchased by its own citizens in other Member States at substantial savings because higher retail prices happen to prevail in its own domestic market?
Plaskovitis. — (GR) Jeg ville gerne spørge hr. ministeren, om han ved, at visse medlemmer af det såkaldte rådgivende udvalg føres til møderne under
I think therefore that the least we and Parliament can do is to try and find out where we stand in this respect, and I regret that the Council does not appear to have any more interest in this matter.
Lord Trefgarne. — (EN) Som jeg sagde, har ministrene forsamlet med henblik på det politiske samarbejde ikke drøftet denne sag, og derfor kan formandskabet ikke svare.
Lord Trefgarne, President-in-Office of the Council. — The provisions of the Treaty do not, in fact, permit the governments of the Member States to prevent their own citizens from importing motor vehicles from other Member States for the reason given, that is, higher prices in the domestic market.
Men hvis jeg et øjeblik må tale som britisk minister, vil jeg gerne gøre det fuld stændig klart, at det ligger den britiske regering meget på sinde, at alle mennesker i Nordirland har det godt.
Lord Trefgarne. — I don't think it is true to say that nothing has been achieved in this area, but I cannot hide from the honourable Member the Council's disappointment that more progress has not been possible.
Den vil fortsat forsøge at opnå enighed mellem de politiske partier om en form for administration, som i vidt omfang er acceptabel for begge parter i samfundet i Nordirland.
Mr Deleau. — (FR) Could the President-in-Office at least tell us whether a timetable has been drawn up for the harmonization of tax laws and whether the Council has any particular philosophy on this ques tion?
Simpson. — (EN) Ved formanden for udenrigsministrene, at den varige og tætte forbindelse mellem Det forenede Kongerige og Irland som partnere i Det europæiske Fællesskab har medvirket til de nylige omfattende fremskridt i forholdet mellem de to regeringer? ringer?
time to do something in practical terms to break off relations with a government which is flouting international law in this way?
Mener udenrigsministrene, at de forslag, der i juli i år blev rettet til USSR med henblik på bilæggelse af Afghanistan-konflikten, stadig står ved magt, og forventer de stadig et svar eller supplerende oplysninger fra det sovjetiske diplomati?
Lord Trefgarne. — I doubt whether the steps suggested by the honourable Member would have the result that he desires. As far as the European Community is concerned, the Council is still guided by the statement made by the Foreign Ministers of the Nine on 15 September 1981.
Lord Trefgarne. — (EN) Jeg er helt enig i det ærede medlems bemærkning, og denne forbindelse fik man et eksempel på under det nylige topmøde i London for en uges tid siden.
Lord Trefgarne. — I am not sure that that is necessarily a matter for the Council.
Det fandt sted under venlige og konstruktive former, forstår jeg, og medvirkede til at konsolidere forholdet mellem Det forenede Kongerige og Republikken Irland.
However, on the more serious aspect of the first part of the honourable gentleman's supplementary question I understand that the United Kingdom Government has informed the Commission that it is reviewing its present arrange ments for the personal importation of cars, with particular concern for the safety and environmental protection objectives of its national type-approval scheme.
Den britiske regerings mål er at skabe en situation, hvor møder mellem premierministeren og Taoiseach bliver almindelige.
The Commission has drawn the attention of the United Kingdom Government to its obligations under the Treaty.
Lord Trefgarne, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (EN) Fru formand, Det europæiske Råds forslag af 30. juni er stadig gældende.
Mr de la Malène. — (FR) Madam President, if I understood correctly the Council is deeply concerned and disturbed at the situation in Turkey.
van Minnen. — (NL) Jeg er glad for, at Lord Trefgarne selv var klar over, at han talte som britisk minister.
President. — Since their authors are absent, Questions Nos 82 to 89 will receive written replies.1
Kan han så måske i egenskab af britisk minister acceptere det forslag, som var indeholdt i hr. Blaneys spørgsmål?
I call Question No 90, by Mr Denis (H-560/81/rev.):
Lord Trefgarne. — (EN) Som jeg sagde i ét tidligere svar, er denne sag ikke blevet drøftet af ministrene forsamlet med henblik på det politiske samarbejde, men jeg forsøger altid at være så hjælpsom, som jeg kan.
Lord Trefgarne. — I would not want to be asked to put a timetable on actions which were to be taken by a government for which I had no responsibility, but it is none the less the case that certain things have happened in Turkey recently which do give us some cause for hope; although I cannot hide from the Parliament the concern which I expressed earlier.
Israel. — (FR) Som ganske almindeligt medlem af Parlamentet forbavser det mig, at De udtrykte håb efter adskillige måneders tavshed fra de sovjetiske myndigheder.
Lord Trefgarne, President-in-Office of the Council. — In 1981 the Association Council met once, on 5 June, at ambassadorial level.
Men som ordfører her i Parlamentet vedrørende Afghanistan-spoørgsmålet vil jeg bede Dem være så venlig at sige os lidt mere nøjagtigt, om De forventer et svar fra de sovjetiske myndigheder på noget særligt punkt i Deres forslag.
On that occasion the Community delegation referred specifically to the position adopted by the Foreign Ministers of the Member States in September 1980 concerning the events in Turkey.
Det vil være meget alvorligt, om vi fortsætter med at håbe på et svar, med at blokere vor strategi, hvis dette svar aldrig kommer!
It emphasized to the Turkish delegation the importance attached by the Community to the swift re-establishment of democratic institutions in Turkey and its concern regarding respect for human rights in that country.
Prag. — (EN) I betragtning af ministerens svar til hr. Simpson og af den meget tilfredsstillende og betydningsfulde udvikling i drøftelserne mellem den britiske og den irske regering om Nordirland-spørgsmålet, mener ministeren så ikke, at det er på tide, at hr. Blaney holder op med at stille provokerende spørgsmål af denne slags?
Lord Trefgarne. — I referred to the possibility of some progress in Turkey — for example, the convening of the Consultative Assembly on 23 October, which I think was a small step, at least, in the right direction — but I would not wish to draw parallels between the situation in Turkey today and the situation that may have obtained under quite different circumstances in another country some years ago.
Lord Trefgarne. — (EN) Dette er vel næppe et spørgsmål til Rådet.
The Council is continuing to keep a close watch on developments in Turkey.
Lord Trefgarne. — (EN) Jeg håber virkelig, at den sovjetiske regering vil give et konstruktivt svar på de forslag, der er blevet stillet dem, men det er noget helt andet end at sige, at jeg forventer, at de svarer.
Certain decisions taken during recent weeks by the military authorities in power in that country have undoubtedly given rise to serious concern within the Community.
Der er selvfølgelig andre forslag i denne forbindelse, som er ved at blive behandlet forskellige steder i verden, og Sovjetuinionen har naturligvis ret til at tage et hvilket som helst af dem op til overvejelse. jelse.
Mr Denis. — (FR) In view of the fact that little has been done in response to the legitimate initiatives taken by this Community and our Parliament, does not the Council think that it would therefore be high
Ewing. — (EN) Må jeg bede udenrigsministeren lige opklare et enkelt punkt i svaret, der gik ud på, at sagen ikke er blevet drøftet — beder han Parlamentet tro, at det aldrig er blevet drøftet, eller blot at det ikke blev drøftet på det sidste møde?
Mr Van Minnen. — (NL) Must I conclude from the answers given by the President-in-Office that the Council really takes the view that the most recent events in Turkey, particularly as regards the debarring of the political parties from the so-called 'Consultative Assembly' and the sentencing of the socialist leader Mr Ecevit are steps towards a more democratic regime?
Lord Trefgarne. — (EN) Jeg sagde, hvad jeg mente, nemlig at den sag aldrig er blevet drøftet i forbindelse med det politiske samarbejde.
No 1-277/177 a lasting solution through mediation and negotiation in the Community framework?
Vil formanden for udenrigsministrene oplyse, hvilke eventuelle fremskridt der hidtil er gjort med hensyn til fastlæggelsen af formelle strukturer inden for det poli tiske samarbejde?
Lord Trefgarne. — As I have said, two or three times already, the situation in Turkey is far from satisfactory, but the Turkish Government is certainly in no doubt as to the views of the Council.
Maher. — (EN) I betragtning af det faktum, at både Storbritannien og Irland er medlemmer af dette Europæiske Fællesskab, er ministeren så enig i, at det ville være ønskeligt, at et spørgsmål som dette blev drøftet i forbindelse med det politiske samarbejde i Minister rådet, og vil De anbefale, at det sker?
Lord Trefgarne, President-in-Office of the Foreign Ministers. — The rules of political cooperation do not allow replies to questions on the internal affairs of one or several Member States.
Lord Trefgarne. — (EN) Hr. Blaneys oprindelige spørgsmål sigtede til situationen i Nordirland, som naturligvis er en del af et af medlemslandene, nemlig Det forenede Kongerige.
Mr Sieglerschmidt. — (DE) Mr Van Minnen asked precisely the same question as I intended to ask, i.e. does the President of the Council really think that the Consultative Assembly, which was convened in a wholly undemocratic manner, i.e. by order, can be described as progress?
Lord Trefgarne, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (EN) Fru formand, De Ti's udenrigsministre blev på mødet den 13. oktober enige om en ny rapport, der indeholder en række forbedringer af maskineriet i det politiske samarbejde.
Mr Blaney. — I am surprised at the reply. Could I say to the Minister that this has been asked in the broadest framework and in full knowledge of the benefit to the Community that a satisfactory solution of the present tense situation in Ireland would bring about?
Nogle af disse forbedringer ligner de forslag, der er indeholdt i Parlamentets resolution af 9. juli 1981.
It is on that basis that the question has been asked, and I think that the reply certainly overshoots that thought and in no way attempts to deal with it.
Formandskabet vil sørge for, at. der bliver omdelt et eksemplar af rapporten til medlemmerne af Parlamentet.
Perhaps the Minister may have a little more to say, considering the context in which the question is set?
Cluskey. — (EN) Må jeg spørge formanden for uden rigsministrene, om han vil kommentere de offentlige
Mr Plaskovitis. — (GR) I should like to ask the Minister whether he is aware that certain members of the so-called Consultative Assembly are taken to the meetings by armed guards and police precisely so that they will not depart from the path which will ulti mately lead them to deceive the citizens into believing in an alleged return to democracy and parliamentary government in Turkey?
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President. — We continue with addressed to the Foreign Ministers.