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Louwes (LDR). — (NL) Hr. formand, på min gruppes vegne en kort positionsangivelse.
A third point I can mention are the obligations entered into by the Community towards third countries.
Jeg mener, at det er i lyset af dette grundlæggende krav, at Kommissionens gode vilje og disponibilitet skal måles. Hvis Kommissionen ikke i fuldt omfang opfylder sine forpligtelser, er jeg bange for, at vi før eller siden vil være nødt til at tage konsekvensen heraf.
If one is not willing to meet the subsequent cost, one should naturally refrain from entering into obligations of this nature.
Det gælder de 800 millioner ECU til de såkaldte fortidens byrder.
They are very considerable ones, but, in my estimate, they can be resolved within the ceiling fixed for own resources.
Hr. formand, efter disse generelle betragtninger vil jeg gerne fremsætte en mere specifik, som vi for øvrigt allerede har nævnt i budgetudvalgets beslutning.
I should like to emphasize that they must be solved in 1986 because if a solution is not found in 1986 these problems will be carried forward to 1987 and it will not then be possible to implement a budget in 1987 on the basis of the Community's existing sources of revenue.
Hvorfor forelægger Kommissionen ikke eller be kendtgør forelæggelsen af et tillægsbudget til struktur fondene, straks rapporten er færdig?
The fact is that we are also facing a number of difficulties in 1987: firstly, there are new consequences of enlargement.
Jeg forstår ganske enkelt ikke denne yderligere tvetydighed.
Everyone is perfectly well aware of this, both Parliament and the Council.
Jeg synes ikke — det vil jeg gentage — at det er særlig korrekt af Kommissionen at undlade at fremlægge et element, der radikalt ville »rykke benene væk« under alle de klager, regeringerne har rejst, og vise, at vi i december sidste år handlede i overensstemmelse med Fællesskabets interesse.
Enlargement has its consequences every single year; a start has already been made on allocating commitment appropriations from the structural funds to Spain and Portugal and these commitment appropriations must of course be financed in the years to come.
Hvad der ikke var forudset, er landbrugsudgifternes stigning som følge af dollarkursen.
Another problem con fronting us in 1987 is further action to reduce the legacy of the past.
Den kan man hel ler ikke forudse, men risikoen for, at noget sådant ville ske, forelå allerede til overflod i december.
This problem cannot be settled in one year — on that point there has been agreement between the Commission, the Council and Parliament.
En overraskelse er det derfor lige så lidt. Men det kaster sandelig et grelt lys over denne helt eksterne faktors ganske usædvanlige indflydelse på vor interne bud getsituation.
In 1987, therefore, we will also be required to pay off part of the large increases in commitments that
Idet jeg gerne vil gentage dét, jeg sagde før vedrørende land
If decisions are taken and political under-
EF kører hverken med hurtigtogsfart eller på uansvarlig vis mod det først i år fastsatte 1,4%-loft. Har de da helt glemt, at vi allerede både i 1984 og i 1985 gik vidt og bredt over den ene pro cent?
It is this demand for consistency and coherence between the political and moral obligations entered into by the Community and the will to honour these commitments in hard cash that is the real political question confronting us.
Udgiftsudviklingen er altså mere ensartet og mere kontinuerlig, end Rådet vil give det udseende af. Sådan set er der ingen grund til alarm, medmindre man finder loftet på kun 1,4% alarmerende lavt.
Are we ready to acknowledge that there must be the same consistency in our political behaviour at European level as there is at national level?
Der er ikke noget at tage fejl af.
a mounting burden of debt.
Det, der er mest alvorligt, er Fællesskabets finansielle og politiske identitetskrise, som afsløres af den øjeblikkelige situation.
Thus, this is also a choice between political short-sightedness and political far-sightedness.
Rådet vil opbygge Europa, men ikke betale derfor.
The Commission is placing the facts on the table.
Hr. formand, min gruppe vil støtte beslutningen med undtagelse af punkt 3.
We will continue to do so in the months to come and then we will be faced with taking some decisions.
Det drejer sig udelukkende om 1987, og at det haster så meget begriber vi ikke.
It is after all the institutions, the budgetary authority and the Member States in the Council that first and foremost must take the decisions and, as always, they will be difficult to reach.
Ændringsforslagene vil vi endvidere ikke støtte, fordi vi anser dem for overflødige.
But once they have been taken it will be discovered how easy it actually was because then the inner logic and necessity of these decisions will be plain for everyone to see.
Selvfølgelig betyder det te ikke, at vi ikke vil opfytde forpligtelserne over for Spanien og Portugal. Det pegede jeg allerede tidligere på i min argumentation.
The Commission is also con fident therefore that the debate now being conducted in the Community will end with a positive outcome.
Denne dramatiske finansielle utilstrækkelighed er en alvorlig trussel mod realiteten i morgendagens Fæl lesskab.
Mr Dankert (S). — (NL) Mr President, Mr Christophersen has already said that it is no great surprise that there are budgetary difficulties in 1986.
Én medlemsstat har allerede meddelt, at den ikke vil være med til at betale de af Fællesskabet foreslåede forskningsprogrammer.
He himself, and we too in the Parliament, have already examined in detail a number of the figures for the end of 1986 which have now come up again and which were indeed to be expected.
Hvad landbrugspriserne angår, har Kommissionen fremsat helt utilstrækkelige forslag.
The only uncertainty was what the dollar would do and that is still an uncertainty for this year.
Hvis de ikke kan opnås ved forhandling, er der ingen tvivl om, at en stor del af landbrugspolitikken renationaliseres, hvor ved Fællesskabet vil miste en stor del af sin realitet. tet.
In that connexion the amount may turn out to be considerably higher, but perhaps also somewhat lower than the Commission expects at the moment.
Selv om Fællesskabet har fået nye egne indtægter, efter at merværdiafgiftssatsen er sat op fra 1 til 1,4%, står det allerede nu over for et forventet underskud på 3 milliarder ECU for indeværende regnskabsår.
May I finally say that the Community is facing serious budgetary difficulties. Some people say perhaps even a crisis but there is nothing new in this for these problems are well known — and, incidentally, they are not insoluble either.
Valget er klart: enten betaler man prisen for Europa, og Europa fortsætter, eller man nægter at betale prisen, hvorefter Europa vil miste ethvert indhold.
The Member States must naturally assume the budgetary consequences of the Council's decisions and they must in future give very careful thought to what new commitments they are ready to enter into.
Der er brug for 800 millioner ECU til strukturfonde ne til afvikling af det, der betegnes »fortidens byrder«, og for halvanden miliard til landbruget.
It must be understood that when in recent years approval was given for a sharp rise in spending on, for example, the structural funds the bill must also be paid when it arrives.
Det nødvendige tillægsbudget bliver enormt, men det samlede bevillingsbeløb kommer til at overstige de disponible midler.
When certain farm prices are adopted the ensuing obligations must be met at a later stage.
Føjer man hertil, at beregningerne i henhold til hr. Christophersens egne udtalelser bygger på den antagelse, at landbrugspriserne fastfryses for produktionsåret 1986-1987, er det ikke vanskeligt at forstå situationens alvor.
Active involvement in bringing about a fall in the dollar exchange rate in order to obtain advantages at national level also implies a readiness to assume the ensuing cost and when the Commission is called on to put forward proposals for stepping up research and technological development and these proposals then materialize, the consequences of these proposals must also be shouldered.
Bonde (ARC). — Hr. formand, jeg skal indskrænke mig til at stille forskellige spørgsmål.
All this should be elementary and the Commission has item by item, month by month spelt out all these consequences.
For det første: Hvor megen plads er der under loftet til de 1,4% i 1986 og 1987 ud fra de seneste skøn over udgifter og indtægter?
Nothing has been camouflaged or embellished over the months but, as already stated, these questions are not insoluble either.
For det andet: Hvor meget skal dollaren falde endnu, eller med hvor mange procent kan landbrugspriserne stige, før vi når loftet?
At current exchange rate levels it will be possible to achieve this in 1987 within the existing revenue limits and, in the following years, with a comparatively small increase in these limits.
For det tredje : Hvad er Kommissionens seneste skøn for de samlede udgifter i 1987, 1988 og 1989?
If on the other hand the political will is not present it is also clear what this means — I do not feel there is any reason to conceal this now that we are debating this matter today. We would then accumulate
Det er helt klart, at der ikke længere er penge nok til landbruget, men det er ikke noget nyt.
But what has actually astonished me is the reaction of the Ministers of Finance to the figures concerning the budget.
Oven i købet har strukturfondene, socialfonden og regionalfonden, heller ikke bevillinger nok til at kunne fungere i over ensstemmelse med de forpligtelser, som Fællesskabet har påtaget sig. Disse finansielle vanskeligheder er alvorlige i to henseender.
Because if we, not very expert Members of Parliament, can see the position on the basis of the information provided by the Commission, then in the Member States they ought to be as fully conversant with the financial situation as we are.
De er alvorlige i sig selv, fordi de skaber en situation, der næsten umuliggør en fornuftig forvaltning af Fællesskabets vigtigste politikker. I dag er det regional- og socialpolitikken, det går ud over, og allerede nu spørger man sig selv, hvordan Fællesskabet med det nærmeste skal kunne finansiere den ambitiøse og påkrævede forskningspolitik, som det har stillet på benene. Allerede nu står det klart, at »fleksibiliteten«, det verbale kunstgreb, som Rådet uforsigtigt slog om sig med under budget-
Then too it must be possible for them to draw the appropriate conclusions, because I fail to understand the reactions to a dramatic financial crisis which arose on Monday evening from the Ecofin Council; reactions of Ministers, as you have just mentioned, who at the meeting of the Big Five on 22 September in New York actually con tributed to the reduction of the rate for the dollar; reactions of Ministers who on the one hand, in a report of the Albrecht Committee, insist that the European Communities should make a higher contribution to the reshaping of agricultural structures in the Fed eral Republic and on the other hand on a Monday evening like that in Brussels proceed to cry that technology must not be financed within the Community budget in the way originally provided.
For det fjerde: Hvorledes er Kommissionens seneste skøn for det danske bidrag gennem told, afgifter og momsbidrag for 1986, 1987, 1988 og 1989?
It is a problem which we encounter afresh every year and which is now becoming rather bizarre.
For at være sikker på at kunne få svar vil jeg gerne stille de sidste minutter af min taletid til rådighed for Kommissionens næstformand.
We need to know what we must do now and what obvious measures are available.
Lucas Pires (PPE). - (PT) Hr. formand, hr. kom missær, kære kolleger, ingen kan bestride betydningen af de strukturelle fonde og regionalpolitikken, navnlig efter Portugals og Spaniens indtræden i Fællesskabet.
It rather surprised me that Mr Christophersen made no mention of the Fontainebleau decisions and agreement that the Commission must present new proposals concerning own resources one year before the exhaustion of existing own resources.
Før var forskellen mellem EF-landene 1:6, nu med de nye medlemmer er denne forskel 1:12.
It was then decided in principle that there should be an increase to between 1.6 and 1.8%.
Af forhandlingerne fremgik det klart, at det ville være nødvendigt med et eller flere tillægsbudgetter for indebærende år, og at disse ville have endnu større betydning, såfremt Domstolen i Luxembourg træffer en afgørelse, der går imod Parlamentet i den, som flere af medlamsstaterne har anlagt.
Thus I think that this budget must be introduced very soon and the supplementary budget must bear a considera ble part — as you yourself have already said — of these burdens of the past which the Council was not willing to accept last year in the normal budget but which it will now have to accept in the supplementary procedure.
Derfor har omtalte politik fået endnu større vigtig hed, og nedskæringer i disse fonde er ikke berettigede.
Otherwise we shall be faced with another danger, which is in fact already lurking in the Commission's unpublished multiannual estimates — for they are not yet adopted — and as a result of shelving the burdens of the past for too long we shall tend to see a genuine decline in the development of the Structural Funds.
Tværtimod ville nye finansieringsprogrammer være berettigede, så de sociale mangler i mange sydeuropæiske lande blev formindsket.
That is a development which in my view is extemely dangerous for a number of the major objectives of the Community, including the internal market.
I denne situation kan hverken Kommissionen, der skal gennemføre budgettet, eller budgetmyndighederne handle med bind for øjnene.
Like my group, I take the view that the Commission must come forward extremely quickly with these pro posals. Why?
Vi har med bekymring hørt tale om en eventuel paralysering af social fondene i andet halvår.Vi synes ikke, at tillægsbudgetterne bliver udarbejdet hurtigt nok, og vi er meget bange for, at behandlingen heraf bliver forsinket med dette budget.
In the first place, after the Netherlands Presidency we have the British Presidency and from a political point of view it does not seem to me desirable to burden the British Presidency with the renegotiations regarding the revision of the arrangements for the British contribution, which is automatically linked with the question of the increase in own resources.
De strukturelle fonde betyder lige så meget for Euro pas opbygning som Roms hun-ulv betød for Roms grundlæggelse.
The revision of those arrangements is going to be extremely difficult in view of the effects of the extension on the whole aspect of Community financing.
Ulven, som gav sin mælk til Romulus og Remus, havde samme funktion, som de strukturelle fonde har i dag til opbygning af en europæisk sammenslutning.
It therefore seems to me that in the coming months the Commission should put forward a proposal so that at the European Council in The Hague discussion can begin, at any event in broad outline.
Et forenet Europa vil ikke være muligt, så længe der findes egne med overflod og egne med mangler — zoner, der har mere, og andre, der har mindre, end de behøver.
If the Commission fails to bring a proposal it will be partly responsible for the increase in financial problems in the coming years.
Dette emne bekymrer især de spanske repræsentanter, fordi der til fortidens byrder knytter sig det problem, der er opstået som følge af Spa niens og Portugals tiltrædelse, og i Parlamentet er der en nogle gange fejlagtig tendens til at tro, at Spanien og Portugal i fremtiden vil påtage sig en del af de ikke obligatoriske udgifter, så andre lande ikke skal deltage i disse.
The Commissioner has already said that the Commission's ability to remain within the budget, within the 1.4% VAT, in 1986 and 1987 is determined both by the scale of the supplementary budget and by the proposals for agricultural prices which the Commission has now introduced.
Men denne opfattelse er forkert.
However, I should like to ask the Commissioner one or two questions.
Det at de budgetmæssige midler opbruges, hr. formand, har an dre årsager: mangelen på en seriøs reform af den fæl les landbrugspolitik, dollarens udvikling på valuta markederne og manglende udvikling af egne alternative ressourcer.
It is not improbable, to put it mildly, that the agriculture package as it now stands will not be accepted in its present form.
Man kan ikke laste de nye medlems stater for følgerne af en politik, der har været ført inden deres tiltrædelse.
In other words the financial situation will be different from that envisaged by the Commissioner.
Vi mener derfor, det er vigtigt, at de strukturelle fonde ikke ofres for at imødegå underskuddet forårsaget af dollarkursfaldet. Vi må ikke betragte Europa som en bankkonto.
The second point, Mr President, concerns a supplementary budget, which is clearly inevitable; the Commissioner referred to it as well.
Udviklingen afhænger først og frem mest af os selv og af vore bestæbelser.
From news paper reports I have rather obtained the impression that the Commission intends to introduce such a supplementary budget in May or June.
Vi portugisere og spaniere ved godt, hvad vi gav verden i form af social solidaritet, og vi ved, hvad solidaritet betyder og har betydet for sammensmeltninger i verden, alle euro pæere må forstå, hvor meget det er nødvendigt at bevilge til de strukturelle fonde, så Europa kan fore nes.
On the basis of the agreed budget for 1986 extra money needs to be made available at the latest at the beginning of autumn for the operation of the Funds and in saying that I pass over the difficulty which the Parliament and the Council are having with one another at the moment at the Court of Justice in Luxembourg in thrashing out the question of some hundreds of millions of payment appropriations which in their turn play a vital part in the financing of the Funds, that is to say the payment of at least a part of the burden of the past amounting to some 2 to 300 million.
Fællesskabet har påtaget sig en forpligtelse til at bevare budgetneutraliteten over for Spanien og Portugal, og sådan må det være. endog således som hr. Lucas Pires før sagde på bekostning af en større deltagelse i strukturfondene i de mindre udviklede regioner, fordi det andet alternativ ville være absurd.
It is also clear that on the basis of present information there is no longer any room within the 1.4% and then there comes the question — Mr Andriessen has already raised it once — in order not to aggravate the problem of stocks, will you not have to look round for financial resources other than the Community's budget for the reduction of those stocks? Naturally the cost will eventually have to be met from within that budget.
Det andet alternativ ville være, at de nye lande, der har den mindste per capita-indkomst i Fællesskabet, skulle bekoste en landbrugspolitik, der har til formål at finansiere overskudslagrene af landbrugsprodukter opstået i de rigeste lande i Fællesskabet.
It is not essential for ideas to be put for ward meanwhile over how that can be done in order to prevent ourselves, after tackling the burdens of the past in the non-compulsory sphere, from becoming entangled straight away in the burdens of the past in the sphere of agricultural stocks?
Og dette leder mod en ny ligevægt, en ny opfattelse af Fælles skabets strukturer, hvor man seriøst må overveje en ny prioritering.
That, of course, presupposes energetic measures by the Council to prevent those stocks from increasing once again, but I think that on this point too more should be done in view of the negotiations entailed.
Vi kan ikke tage fra regionalpolitikken og give til landbrugspolitikken. Det ville være det samme som at fjerne fødderne fra de små fonde — 10, 7, eller 2% af budgettet — for at udstyre et uhyre med mange små fingre.
If the Commission does not appear to be able to remain within the 1.4% on the basis of the present budgetary situation plus this supplementary budget, what is it then to do?
Det er klart, at landbrugspolitikken skal revideres til bunds, det er klart, at strukturfondene i fremtiden skal spille en grundlæggende rolle, og at Spanien som ny medlemsstat må påtage sig sin del af ansvaret ved opbygningen af et forenet og solidarisk Europa.
There is naturally a special risk, in view of the difficulties of the 1987 budget, that if a supplementary budget comes up for discussion only in May or June then it is likely to be pushed through as a subordinate part of the whole 1986/1987 package and that we shall even tually be able to adopt that supplementary budget only much too late in the day, which will cause problems at the level of the Funds.
Vi kunne overveje en forhøjelse af ydelserne, deltage ved oprettelsen af nye ressourcer, for så vidt disse ressourcer er med til at finansiere en ny politik, er med til at finansiere strukturfonde.
There are also people who say that as in the past the Commission must seek extra resources by means of an intergovernmental agreement.
Men naturligvis kan man ikke kræve af os, at vi skal være med til at finansiere en forældet landbrugspolitik.
I should like to say that, having regard to the rights of this Par liament and to a correct budgetary procedure, it is important for us to remain within the 1.4% and that efforts should be made to do so in the coming two years, but I should also like to hear from the Commissioner how far discussions on this point have gone.
Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Hr. formand, hvis der sidste og forrige år herskede enstemmighed om beslutningsforslagene i Europa-Parlamentet, var det vedrørende nødvendigheden af et fald i dollarkursen.
say then the ministers of agriculture and even the finance ministers of the Community on this matter, but we are not in a position to influence him directly. You have quoted costs which are costs over the full year.
I dag ser vi, at faldet i dollarkursen præsenteredes af Kom missionens næstformand som en ulempe for Fælles skabets budget, og vi forstår grundene og er enig heri.
Our experience shows that the dollar is a rela tively volatile currency at the moment, and, indeed, within the American administration there is quite a substantial debate as to whether the fall has gone far enough or should be allowed to go even further.
Jeg henviser til, at inflationen i de fleste lande igen er kommet ned på et niveau, der er rimeligt sik kert. I Tyskland er der en inflationsrate på mindre end 1%, i Holland 1,5% og i en række andre med lemsstater 3,5%.
If we do not have a scheme this year the costs are less, but next year the costs are therefore inflated.
Fyringsudgiften er i det seneste år faldet med 58-60% i Tyskland.
If we do not have it, will the Commission revert to a cut in quotas — a 3% cut, for example — to achieve the same effect?
I alle andre lande er omkostningen også faldet brat.
That will have a financial consequence, so there is a major element of uncertainty there.
Hvor mange flere penge giver dette til udgifter til og investeringer i arbejdspladser og produktion?
That brings me to my concluding remarks. I began by saying that we saw this coming — apart from the dollar which was and still is an imponderable factor — but that naturally means that everything must now be done to prevent this situation arising again in the near future.
Har vi ikke alle en forpligtelse til at fremme dette?
That is in fact the whole problem of the Coun cil's first reading.
En vækstrate på 4% i Tyskland er forudsagt for i år.
What is the Council in its first read ing prepared to do?
I De forenede Stater er den kun 2,5%.
That is the whole problem of budgetary discipline.
Hvis Tyskland når de 4%, vil landet sandsynligvis slå Japan for anden gang på 21 år.
The Council must bring itself to accept its political responsibility in a first read ing.
Men det der, som Kommissionens næstformand sag de, er en ulempe med hensyn til Fællesskabets for pligtelser, er en fordel for visse nationaløkonomier og hovedsagelig for EFs industrialiserede landes natio naløkonomier, som kan konkurrere med De forenede Stater.
If we can contribute to that in the coming months then I think that there is some hope that in future things may go rather more smoothly than they have done in the past few years.