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Ophævelse af undtagelsestilstanden, øjeblikkelig løsladelse af de politiske fanger, især Lech Walesa, genoptagelse af dialogen mellem det polske folks repræsentanter, regeringen, kirken og Solidarnosc, samt en fri fagbevægelse er grundlæggende betingelser for denne fornyelse. Men det er frem for alt øjeblikkeligt nødvendigt at det polske folk, dets ledere og dets virkelige repræsentanter er helt klar over, at Europa-Parlamentet på hele den europæiske befolknings vegne kræver, at polakkerne garanteres midler til at overleve og fuldstændig solidaritet i deres kamp for den retmæssige anerkendelse af de mest elementære menneske, sociale- og politiske rettigheder.
But though some people still con sider parttime work a dangerous illusion and even a cunning adversary which must be fought at any cost, since it constitutes a primary means of preventing a reduction in the general length of the working week, an encouragement to workers to opt en masse for shorter working hours, I think that this is all based on a huge misunderstanding and the excellent document produced by the Commission, amended, very appropriately, by the Parliament's Committee on Social Affairs, is likely to clear up the misunderstanding.
Bruno Friedrich. — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, det politiske udvalgs beslutning stammer fra oktober 1981. Der er siden da vendt et nyt blad i det polske folks historie.
Mr Frischmann. — (FR) Mr President, on behalf of the French Communists I should like to say very briefly that we accept the general terms of the two reports which have been submitted to us, without, however, concealing from ourselves that, given that they propose relatively secondary rearrangements regarding the organization of work, the effects on total employment will, in any case, be pretty negligible.
Så vidt vi støtter det, sker det med tvivl om hvorvidt, polakkerne virkelig kan opfatte dette som en hjælp.
Everything seems to indicate that the Commission wants to live up to its social responsibilities without doing anything that might scare the employers.
Mine damer og herrer, den fundamentale målsætning for det politiske udvalg, som jeg er ordfører for, var at gøre denne betænkning til en grundlæggende betænkning om situationen i Polen og at gøre den til et konstruktivt element for vor aktion.
Personally, I take the view that parttime work is the solution of the future to the problems of our society, in which job-sharing, on the one hand, and the family partnership, on the other, will constitute the twin pillars of the world of tomorrow.
Det gælder ikke om at udarbejde hypoteser og spekulationer om fremtiden, men om virkelig at komme det nødlidende polske folk til hjælp.
I think that there are grounds for basing great hopes on these forms of work, which could provide parents of both sexes with an equitable division of the responsibilities of the fam ily and work and, at the same time, give mothers an opportunity to remain in contact with the world out side the family.
Jeg har derfor omhyggeligt holdt mig til forslag som, alt imedens de er klare og tydelige, og ikke vil levne nogen tvivl om vor vilje, alligevel kan samle det store flertal blandt os.
We must realize that today, more than ever, it is illusory to hope that a global policy, based on the creation of permanent full-time jobs, can provide a definitive solution to the problem of unemployment as we know it.
Jeg er overbevist om, at denne praktisk talt enstemmighed i højere grad end forslagenes hæftighed kan gøre indtryk på de ansvarlige og give det polske folk nyt mod.
Whatever we do, and whatever hope we may have in a hypothetical economic upturn, in the short and medium-term we must satisfy the demand for work by all available means.
Jeg har derfor holdt mig til betænkningen sådan som den blev vedtaget af et meget stort flertal i det politiske udvalg.
Parttime work may thus be one way of dealing with the problem raised by the fact that the demand for work is in excess of supply.
Jeg vil også gerne gå ind på de dybe modsætninger i fremfor alt ændringsforslagene. For første gang er der i dag fare for, at Parlamentet træffer beslutninger, som udelukker hinanden.
In addition, more and more people want to organize their, free time as they like, to personalize and to humanize their lives to a greater extent, to share fam ily responsibilities, particularly as regards the education of their children.
Man kan givet vis ikke se bort fra de seneste tragiske begivenheder i slutningen af august måned.
Mr Richard, Member of the Commission. — May I say, on behalf of the Commission, that I think this has been a useful debate.
Afspænding kan ikke deles op.
The trade unions are absolutely against this splitting.
Det overrasker mig, at den liberale og demokratiske gruppe ikke kræver en samlet undersøgelse af handelen, ikke kun med Sovjetunionen, men også med Rumænien, Ungarn, Czekoslovakiet og Den tyske demokratiske Republik.
I welcome very much, Mr President, the fact that Parliament, on the basis of some careful work by its inter ested committees, is ready to conclude now its work on the complex matter of voluntary parttime work.
Sådan noget har vi aldrig set før. Ikke engang USA har stillet dette krav.
The Economic and Social Committee already delivered a very positive opinion in April 1982.
Hr. formand, at omgås de østeuropæiske regeringer er en mere eller mindre skizofren og surrealistisk beskæftigelse. Vi kræver mere frihed og respekt for de principper, der er nedfældet i slutakten fra Helsinki.
The report, as I understand it, of the House of Lords — I think Dame Shelagh Roberts referred to it — supported the general objectives of our proposal and gave clear and plentiful evidence of discrimination against parttime workers, particularly in the field of remuneration and sickness pay.
Desværre medfører den geopolitiske situation begrænsninger, det ved vi. Men alligevel må der gives mere frihed til de østeuropæiske befolkninger, ellers vil spændingerne stadig gentage sig og kulminere.
It also produced evidence that some of the main parttime employers, at least in the United Kingdom, expected no additional costs and no particular problems when applying our directive.
Det er Kreml, der må gøre indrømmelser, og der ligger vanskeligheden. Især nu, da det ser ud, som om politbureauet er delvis lammet.
I am very pleased — and, indeed, somewhat surprised, perhaps — to be able to quote the House of Lords on our side in this particular matter.
Det fører ingen politik med hensyn til Falklandsøerne, ingen politik med hensyn til Mellemøsten, der er ingen telefonforbindelse med Vesten.
We have also noted with great interest the questions posed by the report: some of these are restated in certain of the 62 amendments to the Calvez report.
Vi mener derfor, at det ville være mere troværdigt og hjælpe Polen mere, hvis Europa-Parlamentet ville koncentrere sig om selve situationen i Polen.
I hope Parliament will follow the recommendation of Mr Calvez and support the basic principles of our proposal and, in particular, support the choice of a directive as the appropriate legal instrument.
En permanent krigsretstilstand stabiliserer ikke freden i Europa. Vi kræver genoptagelse af dialogen med fagforeningerne, kirken og staten.
During a first political orientation debate at the Council meeting in May, it was clear that not all the governments were happy with the proposed form of Community legal instrument, and one Member State indeed expressed its outright opposition to a directive.
Vi kræver frihed for Lech Walesa og frihed for de internerede.
Once this has been achieved, we would hope to see in the Member States a further voluntary expansion of parttime jobs.
Men Sovjetunionen og den polske regering må også indse, at Solidarnosc stadig lever to år efter begivenhederne i august måned i Gdansk.
It is in this way that the Commission sees this directive as contributing to the reorganization of working-time and a more equitable distribution of available work.
Sovjetunionen og fremfor alt den polske regering må begribe, at man i intet industriland på denne jord i længden kan nægte arbejderne fagforeninger med ledere, som de selv har valgt.
Most of the amendments suggested in the Calvez report go in the direction of strengthening our proposal and, subject to what I have to say in a moment, the Commission, for its part, could agree to nearly all of them.
Hvis Europa-Parlamentet ville fremhæve dette — og sådan havde jeg forestillet mig beslutningen — så kunne polakkerne virkelig føle, at Europa-Parlamentet forstod dem.
However, I think we should remain realistic and not over-burden Member States with too many changes in their social-security system.
Det er rigtigt at fortsætte fødevarehjælpen til Polen.
We accept that a threshold in this area would be useful to avoid the problems arising from the minimum duration of parttime work.
Det ville være alt for kynisk at lade det polske folk sulte ved at argumentere for, at russerne bør skaffe fødevarer frem.
In Article 3(2), therefore, the Commission gives the Member States the possibility of setting a threshold, bearing in mind the special factors relating to such schemes.
Jeg hylder de private organisationer, der i de senere måneder på fantastisk vis har hjulpet Polen, og jeg støtter på det punkt gerne ændringsforslaget af Deschamps og Langes.
However, the amendments tabled by the Social Committee and the Ad Hoc Women's Committee strengthen the Commission's proposal by limiting the exemptions from the application of the directive in the field of social security to one year.
Selv om kirken i Polen har indtaget en meget moderat holdning, har regeringen ikke rørt en finger for at komme til en normalisering af forholdene.
What we want is non-discrimination in the access to promotion, not an absolute or automatic right of parttime workers to be prom oted.
Jeg forstår derfor ikke rigtigt kollega Friedrichs bemærkninger.
Someone in the course of the debate quoted the sub-committee of the House of Lords in the United Kingdom.
Han påstår, at de økonomiske kontakter skal holdes helt uden for den politiske kontekst.
I must say they came to the same conclusion in comparing the eventual additional costs and the new attractiveness for job searchers.
Billige kreditter er et meget politisk issue, der skal behandles politisk.
Under our directive an employer is free to offer more or less parttime employment in any particular type of work.
Jeg må desuden sige, at jeg ikke ligefrem værdsætter, at interne tyske uoverensstemmelser mellem Bangemann og Genscher her blandes sammen med en sag af europæisk interesse.
Nobody can force an employer to offer parttime employment in those jobs which he thinks are not suitable for this form of employment.
Det interesserer mig overhovedet ikke, for mig drejer det sig om en europæisk sag, og polakkerne selv vil det heller ikke
Therefore, if an employer thinks that a managerial function is not suited to someone working only eight hours a week,
indvending mod tingenes tilstand, skønt vi naturligvis nærer oprigtig frygt og bekymring for, hvad vi skal gøre, og hvor stærk vor reaktion bør være.
Moreover, one of the main purposes of this directive is to make parttime work more attractive, to make it available to both women and men: with the poor prospects there are at the moment for promotion, we should never, I think, reach this objective, and therefore the Commission would stand by its proposals in this respect.
Jeg, ønsker at sige, i hvor høj grad jeg er enig med hr. Penders' udtalelse.
right, on reaching a certain age, to choose when they retire.
Det er ganske enkelt ikke tilstrækkeligt at sige »forretning som sædvanlig« eller »forretning er forretning«, således som nogle socialistiske regeringer i Fællesskabet synes at sige.
The Commission, which was given the task of formulating practical proposals in this field, took the view that a Council recommendation was the most appropriate instrument for achieving this end, which was indeed one of the longterm objectives of social policy within the Member States, while taking account of national differences and indeed the jurisdiction of the various bodies concerned.
Foreløbig synes tiden ikke moden til poli tiske ændringer til fordel for det modige Polen.
Again I think this underlines the voluntary nature of our conception.
Lord Betheli. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg ønsker at anbefale det forslag til beslutning, der er fremsat af hr. Deschamps, og på den europæiske demokratiske gruppes vegne udtrykke håbet om, at den vil blive vedtaget med stort flertal.
We do not give the parttime worker an absolute right to come back into employment, nor do we think that our proposal puts workers outside the undertaking at an undue disadvantage: but we should acknowledge the qualifications acquired by parttime workers in an enterprise.
Jeg vover at påstå, at vort problem om naturgasrørledningen ikke ville være opstået, hvis vi havde indtaget en mere konstruktiv holdning på den nyligt afholdte Versailles-konference til de billige lån til Sovjetblokken.
The recommendation calls on Member States to introduce flexible retirement gradually into the framework of pension schemes, setting out a number of principles.
Selv om jeg er uenig i det, som præsident Reagan har foretaget sig, tror jeg, at det var forkert af os i Fællesskabet at give ham et påskud for hans handling ved at undlade at indtage en stærk og konsekvent holdning over for Polen.
The results of this examination, we believe, should enable the Commission to report to the Council on progress made in surmounting the obstacles encountered and to propose such other measures as may be needed.
Jeg håber, at man om Parlamentet vil sige, at til trods for mange forskellige opfattelser, kan vi enes om visse principper.
In presenting this recommendation, I would like to stress once again that a common objective is being proposed for the future development of pension schemes.
Et af dem er, at en fagforening ikke er en virkelig fagforening, hvis dens ledere er udpeget af regeringen, og hvis dens hovedmål ikke er at repræsentere arbejdstagerne, men at øge produktionen og at tjene den regering, som har udpeget lederne af den særlige gruppe.
This development concerns legislators as well as the social partners, and more generally it concerns those responsible for pension schemes, both public and private.
Det er ikke en bedre junta, fordi det er en socialistisk eller kommunistisk junta; det er stadig en udemokratisk militærregering, og den er underkastet vor absolutte fordømmelse. melse.
It is, moreover, likely to favour less restricive regulations appropriate to the evolution of the employment situation.
Under alle omstændigheder må vi, hr. formand, som bærer et så stort ansvar for den nuværende situation i Polen — jeg taler som borger i et land, som, når alt kommer til alt, garanterede Polens uafhængighed i marts 1939 — beslutte, hvad vi skal foretage os.
Finally on this aspect of the matter, Mr President, may I just say that we are opposed to any threshold. I think that is fairly clear from what I have said already.
Vi kan ikke længere garantere Polens levevis eller uafhængighed, men jeg mener, vi kan fordømme den store uretfærdighed, der begås for øjeblikket. Vi kan ophøre med at støtte det sovjetiske imperium og den sovjetiske besættelse af Polen.
In the application to other matters of the principles of non discrimination and proportionality, it would risk creating further divisions in the labour market and possibly worse treament than at present of those not covered.
Vi kan ikke længere skjule vort ansigt i vore hænder og vende det blinde øje til begivenhederne.
The aim of creating a more unified and less rigid labour market is one of a number of aims which the Commission hopes this directive will serve.
Vi kan bestemt indtage en klar holdning ved at omskrive den polske nationalsang: Jeszcze Solidarnosc nie zginela, póki my zyjemy.
Another one, as I have said, is the reorganization of working time, which we have been promoting at Community level for some years and which forms part of the agenda of the forthcoming jumbo Council.
Formanden. — Gruppen af kommunister og beslægtede har ordet.
Finally, flexible retirement may be an answer to the problem of what retirement age to choose in those countries which at the moment have a different age for men and women.
Wurtz. — (FR) Hr. formand, vi vil ikke opholde os længe ved betænkningen af Deschamps.
The Commission could thus, I think, fulfil its role of initiator.
Hans hold ninger nærmer sig i den grad en karikatur og hans forslag er så yderliggående, at de snarere hører hjemme i en afhandling om den kolde krig end i en politisk analyse, som vil leve op til sit navn.
If the Council adopts the recommendation, it will be up to Member States and those responsible for pension schemes to make every effort to achieve real progress in the direction of the proposed developments.
Jeg ville ønske, at dette udelukkende havde været et polsk anliggende, som det på de Ti's vegne blev udtalt af den britiske udenrigsminister for mere end et år siden.
Mr President, I now turn to the second aspect of this matter, that is, the report on flexible retirement.
Det er sovjetiske radiostationer, der ved hjælp af støjsendere forstyrrer BBCs udsendelser på polsk i dag, skønt de interessant nok ikke forstyrrer de tyske stationer Deutsche Welle.
May I again thank Parliament, and in particular the Com mittee on Social Affairs and Employment and the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs, for the interest they have shown in examining the recommendation.
Det var åbenbart nødvendigt at udføre dette i USSR, for hvis det var blevet udført i Polen, ville hemmeligheden om, hvad der skulle ske, være sivet ud.
With your permission too, Mr President, I would like to take this opportunity of thanking the respective rapporteurs.
Når dette er sagt, vil vi gerne sige, at situationen i Polen i sig selv er et meget alvorligt problem.
Finally, Mr President, I would like to comment briefly on the amendments proposed by the Committee on Social Affairs and Employment.
Det glæder os, at denne forhandling giver os mulighed for at minde Dem om vor virkelige vurdering af disse alvorlige og tragiske realiteter.
I appreciate the concern, in the light of the current situation, to stress early retirement.
Det er en kendsgerning, at der er en dybtfølt utilfredshed i Polen på
However, the Commission's text is, I think, more appropriate in the longer run, inasmuch as that in varying economic circumstances it safeguards
Skylden herfor er bestemt ikke polakkernes og måske ikke engang Jaruzelskis. Man kan diskutere, om generalen er »det mindre onde«, som mange taler om, om han har reddet Polen fra sovjetisk invasion; det er imidlertid sandsynligt, at hvis og når Moskva beslutter sig til at udskifte ham, vil den nye stærke mand — hvem han end måtte være — bevirke, at man vil begræde den nuværende.
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Hvilken holdning bør følgelig enhver ansvarlig politiker, som er dybt bekymret for Polen, indtage?
the possibility of flexible retirement in both senses, i.e. both before and after the usual retirement age.
Er det at give næring til spændinger, at opmuntre til konfrontation, at spekulere i borgerkrig eller intervention udefra, at kort og godt at føre det værstes politik?
I must say I don't fully understand why Parliament should wish to drop the sentence which refers to reductions in pensions to take account of early retirement.
Denne teori — jeg burde sige dette vanvid — mangler desværre ikke tilhængere hverken i selve Polen eller rundt omkring på jorden og tilsyneladende heller ikke i Parlamentet.
Such reductions do and will take place, and I think that that is an unavoidable fact of present life.
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I call the rapporteur.
Lad os sige det rent ud: Når det drejer sig om Polen eller ethvert andet land, vil vi aldrig for vor part lade os føre ind på denne farlige og kyniske vej.
Mr Deschamps, rapporteur. — (FR) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, two years ago a great hope was born in Poland.
Med hensyn til Polen er det vor opfattelse, at intet bør hindre, at man søger en politisk løsning, som gør det muligt at skabe de nødvendige betingelser for ophævelse af undtagelsestilstanden, løsladelse af de intervenerede og en fremskyndelse af alle nødvendige reformer.
The hope that, through genuinely representative and spontaneously elected bodies, the whole of Polish society could take part in public life, could exercise a genuine influence on the running of the country, and could keep a check on the activities of those in power.
Derfor undgår vi, og vil blive ved med at undgå ethvert initiativ, som kan gøre det endnu vanskeligere at opbygge det tillidsfulde klima og bevirke den nationale forsoning, uden hvilken alle anstrengelser for at nærme sig en løsning af Polens problemer hver gang er og vil blive reduceret til ingenting.
All that, of course, was expected to take place within the legal framework of the wider civil rights and liberties that were recognized after the month of August 1980.
Foruden de tanker, vi har om ham som menneske og som fagforeningsleder, er han symbolet på Solidaritet, symbolet på det, Polen ønskede at blive, men som det ikke kan og ikke har mulighed for.
As I said right at the outset, Mr President, I am grateful to the House for the attention it has given to these two matters, which the Commission does regard as being of considerable importance in respect of its social policy.
Denne vej, som er den eneste farbare, er allerede i tilstrækkelig grad brolagt med virkelige forhindringer, så at det hverken ville være hensigtsmæssigt, eller acceptabelt at tilføje yderligere vanskeligheder, enten på grund af ubetænksomhed eller ud fra politisk beregning.
Nine months later, we are obliged to observe that, far from giving birth to the economic and social reforms which are of vital importance for the nation, the Polish junta has only been able to preside over fur ther deterioration in the production and supply of basic commodities which are indispensable for the very survival of the people.
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Mrs Maij-Weggen. — (NL) May I ask a question, Mr President?
Formanden. — De europæiske fremskridtdemokraters gruppe har ordet.
President. — I call the rapporteur.
Israël. — (FR) Hr. formand, mine kære kolleger, man siger, at Polen har været i krigstilstand siden den 13. december sidste år.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, we, the members of this Parliament, are the representatives of the peoples of the Community.
Hvilken krig er der tale om? Det er ikke en krig i den forstand, som vi kender.
Mr Poher and Mr Thorn reminded us of this fact only yesterday.
Det er ikke en borgerkrig fordi det polske folk er forenet i sit ønske om frihedsrettigheder. Det drejer sig ulykkeligvis om en krig, som den polske regering fører mod
How, ladies and gentlemen, could we remain silent when the conscience of the European peoples as a whole reacts indignantly to the harassments which our brothers in Poland are subjected to and demands insistently that the Polish people should be given, not just the means of survival, but total support in its struggle to reconquer and confirm those freedoms that were so unanimously claimed by it and so dearly acquired during the glorious summer of 1980.
Gawronski. — (IT) Hr. formand, Polen kæmper stadig.
Mr Calvez, rapporteur. — (FR) Mr Richard, every thing has to be quite clear.
Modstanden forstærkes snarere end den kues.
This is a clear problem, and it has to be dealt with in all fairness.
Befolkningen, som er tilskyndet af for tvivlelse snarere end af håb, går ud på gaderne, hvor de risikerer fængsel i årevis og ofte endog livet.
Ladies and gentlemen, this report, which was called for by the Committee on Political Affairs, is not an occasional resolution, of the kind we have been
Romualdi. — (IT) En stor tak til kollega Deschamps for hans betænkning, der er resultatet af et samvittighedsfuldt og tålmodigt arbejde, udført med stor kærlighed, men samtidig med en sjælden politisk balance og dyb ansvarsfølelse.
Deschamps have brought this report up to date by taking the liberty of making the necessary amendments right from the first paragraph.