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Vi begynder med forslag til beslutning i tredje betænkning af Newton Dunn (dok.
We are not interested in scandal.
1-858/80): Beskyttelse af arbejdstagere mod skadelig udsættelse for metallisk bly og dettes ion-forbindelser under arbejdet.
In this area, it would be enough to recall the enormous waste deriving from the plurality of work places, which we, along with many others, hope will be ended in the near future.
Mange medlemmer ønsker at afgive en stemmeforklaring. Jeg erindrer om, at vi allerede én gang har stemt om beslutningen og dengang konstaterede, at der var modstridende bestemmelser.
It consists of taking last years appropriations and adding to it!
På grund af den lange talerliste vil jeg gerne pointere, at indlæggene om stemmeafgivelsen bør være meget korte.
You only have to look at the complete failure of the administration to respond to Mr Bonde's questions concerning next year's proposed budget to see the vacuum that lies at the heart of the European Parliament's financial management.
Collins. — (EN) Jeg beklager det meget, hr. formand, men det er lige præcis her det hele gik skævt sidste gang.
Keeping to the subject of expenditures for Members of Parliament, we will point out the almost total lack of expenditure dedicated — I will not say to equal salaries for all — for which a draft statute was formulated a year ago — but at least for a decrease in the enormous disparities existing today.
Denne beslutning er meget teknisk, og hvis man ser på artikel 6 og artikel 8, må de nødvendigvis forblive i overensstemmelse med hinanden, og vi må virkelig give Parlamentet mulighed for at stemme om dem.
The appropriations which could have been used to reduce these differences in salaries among the Members of a single institution who do the same work have not been used, and have therefore been annulled.
Nu kan det simpelthen ikke vente længere.
No other institutions has a record as bad as ours.
Medmindre vi er villige til at tillade denne afstemning artikel for artikel, vil vi tabe det hele på gulvet i dag. Det kan jeg forsikre Dem om.
The extent of out underspending over the years shows conclusively that there is no shortage of money for any reasonable activity that Parliament might wish to undertake.
Det vil ikke gå videre til Rådet, og Kommissionen vil endnu en gang have grund til at fordømme Parlamentet for dets langsomhed.
The consequence which the Committee on Budgets and its rapporteur and others predicted, most powerfully in 1979, is that the European Parliament's credibility as a budgetary authority has been gravely impaired and our standing with public opinion seriously damaged.
Jeg henstiller derfor, at De bryder traditionen og ser bort fra Deres rådgivere, som lige nu forsøgte at overbevise Dem om, at jeg ikke har ret. Se bort fra disse rådgivere og stem om dette artikel for artikel.
Mr President, I and many colleagues around this Chamber who are becoming increasingly concerned in this matter, are dedicated to the European cause and to the success of this Parliament.
Det anmoder jeg Dem indtrængende om.
Let there be no doubt about that.
Collins, formand for udvalget for miljø- og sundhedsanliggender og forbrugerbeskyttelse. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg ville være Dem taknemmelig, hvis De ville gøre det klart for Parlamentet, inden vi begynder med indlæg til stemmeafgivelsen, om vi kan stemme artikel for artikel.
Basically, the new Parliament has retained and even enhanced the tendencies of the old, seeking partial solutions through contributions granted to Members for varying purposes, but making no provisions to assure them of rights basic for any worker, such as health and retirement plans.
Det er meget vigtigt, at vi når frem til en afgørelse i dag, fordi Kommissionen håber at kunne forelægge sagen for Rådet til juni.
It yields itself to scandals of various kinds, yet no effort to correct it was made in 1980.
Hvad er hr. Newton Dunns synspunkt?
President. — I call Mr Leonardi.
(') Frist for al stille ændringsforslag kollen.
Such an agreement might be postponed until the next legislature.
(') Af forhandlingsreferatet fremgår kun de faser af afstemningen, som har dannet grundlag for indlæg. Nærmere oplysninger om forløbet af afstemningen findes i protokollen.
In this situation I feel it is necessary to work out solutions within the limits of Parliament's powers, even partial or voluntary ones, to the most urgent problems, such as those concerning health and retirement benefits and legal status, while awaiting an overall solution.
Så derfor vil jeg først og fremmest gerne foreslå, at vi stemmer om artiklerne, artikel for artikel, som de foreligger i denne betænkning hvor ændringerne er, og at vi derefter går videre til selve den foreliggende
Members have the right to a dignified, clear position in the face of public opinion, to which we should probably appeal in order to overcome difficulties raised by certain Member States, using all the means available in our
Det ville efter min opfattelse være logisk, og den rigtige måde at gøre det på.
Leonardi budget, and avoiding annulments such as those which occurred in 1980.
Hvis det ikke lykkes os at ændre de relevante tal og genoprette den fornuft, der efter min opfattelse blev udvist af Kommissionen, da den udarbejdede de oprindelige forslag, hvis det ikke lykkes os at tilnærme os Kommissionens tal, vil jeg henstille til min gruppe og resten af forsamlingen, at man stemmer imod denne betænkning som helhed.
The discharge of the budget of a new Parliament can certainly not take place with observations concerning mere bookkeeping, seeking cover from other institutions, like the Court of Auditors, which has no competence in the matter of parliamentary expenditure.
Sir James Scott-Hopkins. — (EN) Hr. formand, det har vi ikke.
(Mr Pannella asked to speak.)
Formanden. — Nuvel, så stemmer vi artikel for artikel, skønt vi løber en vis risiko, hvis vi gør det.
President. — Mr Pannella, your Group has exhausted its speaking time.
Maij-Weggen. — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg vil stemme for den ændrede Newton Dunn-betænkning, og en stor del af min gruppe vil også gøre dette.
The second point I would like to make is that what has become known in this Parliament as the principle of evening up is probably no longer acceptable.
Newton Dunn-betænkningen udtaler sig nu for ligebehandling af mandlige og kvindelige arbejdstagere i forbindelse med beskyttelse imod farerne ved bly.
In the early days of the Parliament I think it was acceptable, or it certainly was to our predecessors, that where there were separate practices in separate national civil services, one should always look for the best practice and even up.
Denne ligebehandling er meget vigtig af to grunde.
I do not believe that this is any longer an acceptable automatic practice.
Denne virkning er uacceptabel, også fordi arbejdsløsheden blandt kvinder allerede er meget højere end for mænd.
That identity must leave it in such a position that it is open to public scrutiny.
Sherlock. — (EN) Hr. formand, den redegørelse, jeg vil fremkomme med, er i det store og hele baseret på, at De ikke havde tilladt os at stemme artikel for artikel, hvilket De nu har, det er i det mindste den opfattelse, jeg har fået.
Part of that public scrutiny will undoubtedly be that people are going to take much more interest in the benefits, salaries and conditions of staff and people are rightly going to take a very close look if it is seen that staff of the European Parliament are grossly out of line with the equivalent grades in their own Members States.
Det var uheldigt, at formanden tilsyneladende skulle nå et fly den dag og derfor forcerede det hele, og vi fik ikke, som lederen af min gruppe har sagt, mulighed for at behandle hvert enkelt punkt.
As a minor point within that I notice that in the past the Council of Ministers has endorsed the Court of Auditors' point regarding the fact that this Parliament pays a different level of travel expenses to its staff from that which is normally obtainable within the Community and I think this is a matter that will be looked at.
For det andet er bly lige så farligt for mænd som for kvinder.
Mr Palmella. — Mr President, your kindness is an exception in this Chamber.
Det er ikke rigtigt, for både af en af bly beskadiget kvindelig ægcelle og en af bly beskadiget mandlig sædcelle kan der vokse et handicappet barn. Den eneste forskel er, at det retlige bevis er meget enklere at levere for kvinder end for mænd.
Mr Jackson's propositions and observations seem very pertinent to me, and if I had had the time, I would have emphasized that it is a budget of the incompetent that we are establishing here.
Det fastsætter normer, som er uopnåelige for industrien.
President. — I call Mr Balfe.
Det fastsætter mindst en målt norm i ALAU, · som ikke er pålideligt målbar. Så vidt jeg kan se, vil det ikke blive godkendt af en eneste af de ti medlems staters regeringer.
Mr Balfe. — Mr President, there are a number of points I would like to make in connection with the budget which we are talking about and concerning last year.
Mon ikke De kunne få en del af Parlamentet til at forholde sig rolig, hr. formand, for det jeg siger, er faktisk værd at lytte til.
In fact I have eight separate points which I will try and make briefly.
Både den europæiske fagbevægelse og store lægeorganisationer er af disse grunde gået ind for ens værdier for mænd og kvinder på et sikkert niveau.
It is now widely accepted in a large number of countries of the EEC that this Parliament and its staff is living too well.
Jeg må sige, at Nederlandene i alle tilfælde ikke vil rejse nogen protest mod disse værdier, for de anvendes allerede i mit land, hr. Sherlock, det er altså allerede en af de ti medlemsstater.
I accept that it is very easy for the press to make very easy points about this Parliament but they do have a semblance of truth in them.
Desuden må jeg sige, at industrien får tid i ti år til at gennemføre denne bestemmelse. Vi er for dette direktiv, det er et godt forslag.
This Parliament gathered together very quickly to pass the Key report on the expenses of the Commission.
Det er vort miljø, eller Fællesskabets arbejdende befolknings miljø, vi taler om.
Firstly, as has already been pointed out, one of the greatest costs of this Parliament is the fact that it meets in three separate places.
Hvorfor kan man ikke behandle det lige så seriøst som eventuelle politiske mord i Uruguay, som man ikke kan stille noget op med. Hvorfor kan man ikke behandle det lige så seriøst, som et dusin mennesker her i eftermiddag behandlede multifiberarrangementet.
One of the tests as to whether other people outside this Parliament, and I am thinking particularly of the Council of Ministers, are keen on helping us resolve our problems of expenditure will be the attitude that is taken towards the three working places of Parliament.
Hvis man gør noget forkert i forbindelse med multifiberarrangementet, vil det måske medføre arbejdsløshed i Fællesskabet; hvis man gør noget forkert i forbindelse med bly og de grænseværdier, der er foreslået i ændringsforslagene, vil man af praktiske grunde skabe en arbejdsløshed på over en halv million mennesker i Fællesskabet ved at lukke hele den del af industrien på denne side af jerntæppet, der udsmelter
Whichever place is fixed upon I do not think we can any longer justify a situa tion in which this Parliament, whether it be as a band of hope or a band of minstrels or, as some have suggested to me, a band of wastrels, moves between three different cities in Europe, and moves behind it a large train of staff, equipment and the like. We are looking to the Council for a much firmer statement than the one which came out of the last European
Ceravolo. — (IT) Hr. formand, ærede kolleger, jeg vil gerne henlede opmærksomheden på den generelle betydning, som denne afstemning kan få.
And this leads me on to the next point which I have to make, which is that this Parliament, which often protests about its three working places, is far too fond of making extra-territorial visits outside Brussels.
Der er to spørgsmål, man må være opmærksom på, hvis man vil stemme imod dette direktiv, først og fremmest spørgsmålet om forskelsbehandling mellem mænd og kvinder.
There are far too many Group meetings and committee meetings that are being held on a regular basis outside the seats of the institutions.
Ceravolo nation, der kan betyde, at kvinder bliver afskediget eller ikke ansat inden for visse bestemte produktioner.
European Communities. There is now a perfectly adequate system of travel allowances for Members who wish to go and investigate problems in Member States.
Derfor vil jeg stemme for forslaget, og jeg håber, at Parlamentet deler denne indstilling som en bekræftelse af sin sociale følsomhed.
President. — I must now suspend the debate on the Price report until Thursday in order that we may vote.1
Kappos. — (GR) Hr. formand, når man tager den situation i betragtning, som hersker i Grækenland angående beskyttelse mod erhvervssygdomme, anser jeg indholdet af beslutningen og betænkningen for at være positiv.
It is my contention, and I think it would be shared by this Parliament, that this Parliament has a right to know what money is being asked for on its behalf and how that money is being spent.
Hr. formand, da betænkningen ikke nævner situationen, som den er i Grækenland, og da vi ikke deltog i forhandlingen om forslaget, håber jeg, De tillader mig i korthed at forklare de forhold, som hersker i Grækenland.
The fact that even your Committee on Budgets finds it so difficult to find out the basic facts of expenditure within this Parliament should be an object lesson to the whole Parliament as to what needs to be done.
Det andet spørgsmål er et meget alvorligt problem.
President. — The next item is the vote on the motion for a resolution contained in the Newton Dunn report (Doc.
Det forekommer mig sandelig at være en meget alvorlig teknisk-politisk afvigelse.
On now to the next point: the need for this Parliament to be able subject its own budget to investigation.
Efter at det så ofte er blevet hævdet, at arbejdernes sundhed indtager en central plads i Fællesskabets interessesfære, synes jeg, at dette i praksis svarer til at privilegere de økonomiske interesser højere end arbejdernes sundhed. Det ville være en alvorlig selvmodsigelse, som ville skade vort Parlaments anseelse.
There is within this Parliament already an established practice of questioning the Commission, of questioning the Council, of questioning the Foreign Ministers.
Dette spørgsmål frembyder ikke problemer med hensyn til de politiske anskuelser, det er simpelthen nødvendigt at være konsekvent over for de store sundhedsorganisationers videnskabelige resultater og autoritative oplysninger.
I put it to the guardians of our parliamentary traditions that they must surely allow the same rules on questioning to apply to themselves as they seek to apply to everybody else.
Ghergo. — (IT) Hr. formand, størstedelen af min gruppe vil stemme for dette forslag til beslutning af yderst konkrete grunde.
Which brings me to the final two points. The Group within this Parliament traditionally are funded out of the Parliament's money.
Af tretusind tilfælde af blyforgiftning, der er konstateret i Italien i løbet af et år, udviste ca. 30 % af de angrebne et blyindhold, der var lavere — jeg siger lavere — end den maksimum grænse, som Kommissionen har foreslået.
I would hope that the Groups within this Parliament will realize the necessity of shaping their own financial affairs in a way which is able to be subject to professional auditing and professional probit. If this Parliament is not able through its groups to set an example, it will find it difficult through its own self.
Det er nok at nævne, at ikke blot er der ikke truffet nogen foran staltninger til beskyttelse af den arbejdende befolkning, men der foretages ikke målinger af forureningen af arbejdsomgivelserne og atmosfæren, og som det internationale arbejdskontor bekræfter, føres der ikke statistik over erhvervssygdomme i Grækenland.
Mr Collins, Chairman of the Committee on the environment, public health and consumer protection. — On what I consider to be a point of order, Mr President, I should be grateful if you would make it clear to Parliament, before we start even on an explanation of vote, whether or not we are going to be able to vote on this article by article.
Således befinder den arbejdende befolkning sig uanet under indflydelse af disse farlige stoffer, en kendsgerning som er lig med en langsom død. De uansvarlige arbejdsgivere dræber de arbejdende, uden at de betragtes som drabsmænd, eftersom det drejer sig om profit.
This is a very technical matter and the reason it fell foul of Parliament the last time was that there was a misunderstanding between the Presidency and the Members, and people then voted and ended up with contradictory clauses in the final resolution.
Hvad angår blyforurening, er der foretaget en måling i 1979 af en privat organisation i en kommune tæt ved Athens centrum, kommunen Tauros.
I would be grateful, Mr President, if you would rule that this time we shall be allowed to vote on it article by article.
Denne måling viste, at koncentrationen af bly var syv til otte mikrogram pr. kubikmeter, det vil sige meget over de internationalt tilladte grænser.
That will make it possible for people to express their views more clearly and for Parliament to arrive at a decision today.
Tilsvarende og dårligere forhold må findes på arbejdspladser som støberier, akkumulatorfabrikker, miner og andre arbejdsområder, hvor de bearbejder bly.
It is very important that we arrive at a decision today because the Commission is hoping to bring this to the Council
Fru Scrivener har ordet.
A detailed account of the vote is recorded in the Minutes.
Men nu er den værdi, som Kommissionen har foreslået, netop 70.
We have seen a regular pattern of underspending in the order of at least 20%.
Scrivener. — (FR) I dette spørgsmål, som er meget teknisk og yderst vanskeligt, og hvorom det ikke er let at nå frem til helt sikre videnskabelige udtalelser, støtter vor gruppe Kommissionens forslag, som den finder fornuftig; men vi modsætter og ændringsforsla-
You can certainly get your budget wrong once but to consist ently underspend and to consistently draw up budgets on what appears to be a basis of taking last years figure and adding a few percent is not an acceptable approach for a group of people who do at least pretend to be the potential rulers of at least a part of Europe. Although I would not endorse that particular
Men for os er det slemt, at EF skal have myndighed på dette område.
President. — I will ask the rapporteur, but in my opinion we can vote by division on the resolution.
gene i betænkningen, især dem, som fastsætter det tilladte blyindhold.
This would seem to me to be a logical conclusion.
For øjeblikket kan denne procent ikke måles. Vi går naturligvis ind for beskyttelse, men den virkelige beskyttelse — dette har jeg fremført under lignende forhandlinger — består i en korrekt vurdering og garanti for, det man måler.
It is in the report there is no reason why we should not take it article by article, if in point of fact they are being changed or recommended to be changed.
Formanden. — Fru Hammerich har ordet.
President. — I call Mr Sherlock.
Hammerich. — Den afstemning, vi skal have nu om blydirektivet, er lidt usikker, for endnu ved ingen, hvordan det endelige direktivforslag kommer til at se ud.
So first of all, if I may suggest it to you, we should vote on the articles, article by article as is laid out in this report here where the changes are, and then after that we should then go on to the actual report itself.
1. lægekontrollen gøres frivillig, for at den ikke skal fungere som sortering af arbejdskraften;
That would seem to be logical and that would seem to be the right way of going about things.
2. garanti for at mænd og kvinder ligestilles;
President. — I have a complicated problem here.
3. grænseværdierne nedsættes betydeligt.
We have voted on the directive and we have adopted the directive .. .
Direktivforslagets grænseværdier er nemlig elendige, og man kan spørge, hvorfor man overhovedet skal medvirke til sundhedsfarlige arbejdsmiløregler.
Mr Sherlock. — I would like to ask for one further ruling, if indeed we are going to proceed on the articles and vote on each in turn. If any amended article falls because it is voted out will the original Commission text be restored in its place?
Hr. Sherlock sagde tidligere, at ændringsforslagene var noget nonsens. Jeg vil vove at påstå, at det var ham, som i dag snakkede nonsens!
President. — I think there is a misunderstanding.
Enhver ved, at det er vanskeligt at nå frem til disse grænser, men dette gør dem ikke mindre ønskelige.
We are not voting article by article on the directive.
Hvis vi ser på artikel 9, vil man opdage, at der er yderligere fem år for exceptionelle omstændigheder.
We arte voting article by article on the resolution.
Lad os tage de hygiejniske grænseværdier, f.eks. den øvre grænse for blystøv i luften.
Sir James Scott-Hopkins. — Mr President we haven't done so.
Her har vi i Danmark en norm på 100 mikrogram pr. kubikmeter luft.
We have had the debate and we have had all the amendments moved, but that is as far as we have got.
EF-direktivet foreslår — og denne betænkning gør ingen indsigelser —- 150 mikrogram indtil 1985 eller 1989, derefter 100 mikrogram.
Now we are actually voting. This is why both the honourable gentlemen who is the chairman of the committee and my honourable friend have been asking for these separate votes on the articles which are being changed.
Til sammenligning kan det nævnes, at normen i Japan er 50 mikrogram pr. kubikmeter, et mål man også arbejder henimod i USA, og i Sovjetunionen er den 10 mikrogram pr. kubikmeter luft.
That is implicit in the actual resolution of my honourable friend, Mr Newton Dunn.
Formanden. — Vi går nu over til afstemning om for slaget til beslutning.
President. — All right, we shall vote article by article, however, we run certain risks if we do so.
Forskellige medlemmer har anmodet om særskilt afstemning om artiklerne.
We may have to do so again, but that is Parliament's own inconsistency; that is not my worry.
Formanden. — Fru Kellett-Bowman har ordet til forretningsordenen.
Mr Sherlock. — Mr President, the explanation which I shall deliver is largely given in case we should fail in what you have now allowed us to do, at least I think you are allowing us to do it.
Dernæst er direktivets grænseværdier meget dårlige, fordi de seneste arbejdsmedicinske undersøgelser tyder på, at man skal helt ned på 30 mikrogram for mænd og kvinder for at være på den sikre side.
It was unfortunate that the President appeared to have a plane to catch that day and took it a gallop and we did not, as the leader of my Group has said, have an opportunity to consider each clause.
Elaine Kellett-Bowman. — (EN) Der er nogle medlemmer uden for salen, som faktisk ikke er klar over, at afstemningen er påbegyndt.
Mr Collins. — I am sorry, Mr President, but this is exactly where the whole situation went wrong the last time.
Dette ønskede jeg blot at gøre opmærksom pa.
I can tell you now that my information is that there are Groups in this Parlia ment who, unless they are allowed to vote on this article by article, will vote the whole thing down.
Men hvad har vi imod direktivet, når det blot er et mindstekrav?
Unless we are prepared to allow this article by article vote then we will lose this today.
Skrappe krav til arbejdsmiljøet fordyrer produktionen, og her kan et slapt EF-direktiv som f.eks. blydirektivet bruges som pression, således at det i realiteten sætter maksimumsgrænser.
I appeal to you, therefore, to break with tradition and break with your advisers there who were trying to persuade you just now that I am wrong.
Sherlock.-— (EN) Jeg er klar over, at afstemningen sker artikel for artikel, men den næste artikel, vi skal stemme om, indeholder to meget forskellige spørgsmål.
If we fail to amend the offending clauses, my Group, and I hope everyone else in this Parliament, will vote against the directive as a whole because it is a nonsense.
Der er litra b), som jeg tror alle her i Parlamentet fuldt ud kan tiltræde.
It sets standards which are unattainable by