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De er aldrig enige, mine kære kolleger, når der skal angribes, når det skal kræves, at friheden skal sejre andre steder. De er der hver gang med dette triste hykleri.
Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, either we say to ourselves that dictatorship must always be fought, and that one does not compromise with dictatorships, or we say to ourselves that political realism itself requires us not to compromise.
Disse, hr. formand, skal imødegås politisk, og vi bør hjælpe dem, hvad enten de vil eller ej.
But we shall not be able to do so if we continue to deceive ourselves with regard to the militarist dictatorships and the dictator ships linked with a certain policy of the Pentagon or of NATO.
Det er således mit ønske, hr. formand, at vort Parlament i dag indtager en holdning, der er så utvetydig og konkret som muligt.
President. — I want to express the warmest thanks to the President of the Council for his speech.
Hvis vi vil forsvare Warszawa, hvis vi vil forsvare Polen, hvis vi vil forsvare Afghanistan, hvis vi vil forsvare El Salvador,
I do believe it marks the starting point for the further cooperation between Parliament and the Council which I mentioned at the beginning.
Eftersom et sådant fælles beslutningsforslag ikke er blevet fremsat, har jeg kun den mulighed at anmode om, at folkepartiets beslutningsforslag, der indeholder disse punkter, vedtages og at fremhæve, at det ville være i det politiske udvalgs interesse snarest muligt at indføre høringer, som man opfordrer fremstående polakker til at deltage i, således at man kan påbegynde de nødvendige drøftelser.
Mr President, we must not ignore thé prudent advice of a Turkish political leader — who is now in prison, and perhaps paying in that way for his adventurist policy which led him, although a socialist, to carry out an act of aggression against Greece — or deceive ourselves that there are good generals who can in some way sweep aside the difficulties for democrats and then politely hand power back to them.
Imidlertid ønsker jeg endnu engang at slå et slag for, at Parlamentet om
Mr Pannella. — (FR) Mr President, as my colleagues will undoubtedly recall, we have been trying for more
Gaiotti de Biase muligt giver udtryk for en fælles holdning til et spørgsmål, der på en måde er en udfordring til Europas evne til at stå sammen.
Pannella in his suicidal policy but in order to oppose those who, sometimes even willingly, hand over power to the armed forces in the belief that they will give them back the freedoms which they have failed to win as democrats.
den mest brutale måde overtrædes. Man kan måske nå til den konklusion, at vi på trods af disse ubarmhjertige overtrædelser stadig må forsøge at nå til enighed med denne kæmpemagt, der findes mod øst, og som ganske åbenlyst anvender sin magt også i form af psykisk pres til at gennemtvinge det, man i dag kan kalde de polske militærmyndigheders invasion af eget territorium.
In fact, if we look closely we shall see that these Europeans — verbally forthright in condemning those who, in Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Afghanistan and Poland, represent in the 1980s, at the structural level, the greatest threat to peace, justice, law and socialism itself — that in fact these colleagues on the right are not really opposed to them.
Det skulle derfor være dele gationens opgave at observere den måde, hvorpå Det europæiske Fællesskabs fødevarehjælp modtages, og sikre sig, at denne støtte helt faktisk når frem til den polske befolkning.
For, with regard to Poland, what will count in the 1080s is the agreement which Mr Reagan signed with Mr Brezhnev on 20 September for the supply of 18 million tonnes of cereals.
Herudover burde den indhente så nøjagtige oplysninger som muligt om de polske fangers skæbne og besøge dem i den udstrækning, de polske myndigheder tillader det, og endeligt udarbejde en rapport, når den kommer tilbage.
If we wish to defend Warsaw, if we wish to defend Poland, if we wish to defend Afghanistan and El Salvador and all those throughout the world who are increasingly subjected to militarist ideology of the right or of the left — the ideology of authoritarian efficiency — if we wish to do that, our Parliament must today express a clear and concrete view on Turkey.
Macciocchi. — (IT) Hr. formand, jeg ønsker at begrunde et beslutningsforslag, jeg havde fremsat vedrørende udsendelsen af den delegation til Polen.
All the rest is showmanship — something which makes it possible to make a fuss.
Det tilkommer ikke mig at foreslå, hvorledes dette skal gøres, men jeg mener, at når det nye direkte valgte Parlament prioriterer Polen-problemet højst blandt de alvorlige problemer, vi står over for i dag, er det nok ikke for blot at provokere vor medfølelse, men jeg går ud fra, at det tænkte på at gøre noget på det politiske plan.
In fact we know that if Mr Reagan, the European right and NATO agree to threaten not to send food aid to the Polish people — I repeat, the Polish people — they also agree to supply cereals to the occupiers of Afghanistan, to the supporters of this dictatorship, to the Polish troops who are preparing to carry on, in one way or another, their civil war against the Polish people.
Vi har fået forelagt et beslutningsforslag, hvor det europæiske folkepartis gruppe, i den form, som jeg ikke kan acceptere, fremsætter den samme anmodning.
It is that kind of Europe which can win through, Mr President, and it is only that kind of realism which can win through.
Jeg beder denne gruppe om at trække sit forslag tilbage.
All the rest is only historical complicity in defeat and historical complicity with dictatorships.
Til slut, hr. formand, vil jeg sige, at jeg efter at have begrundet mit beslutningsforslag og har udtrykt mig til fordel for et fælles beslutnings forslag er parat til at acceptere at trække mit eget beslutningsforslag tilbage, når der skal stemmes om det i eftermiddag.
If we wish to be credible we must strengthen our Europe, which is surrounded — lulled by its illusion of effectiveness and efficiency, whereas it does not denounce the member countries of the United Nations, at least 130 of them, which are governed by military or paramilitary dictatorships — our Europe which is surrounded because of the lack of faith and lack of intelligence of the 'liberals', i.e. those who believe that political democracy is a luxury which we can allow, ourselves from time to time rather than a rule which we must defend throughout the world.
Jeg må indrømme — og det siger jeg til Dem, mine kolleger, og til Dem, fru Gaiotti de Biase — at jeg i min sjæls inderste er pessimist.
Mrs Gaiotti de Biase. — (IT) Mr President, it is not without some emotion that Poland is again the subject of debate in this Chamber.
Jeg tror ikke, at vi kommer til at gøre noget som helst; jeg tror, at vi ganske langsomt vil blive bedøvet af den omfattende debat; og jeg kender disse mestre i debattens kunst, sqm siger: Pas på, vi må være forsigtige, lad os ikke overdrive, lad os at undgå at irritere nogen, vor opgave er at glatte ud og at gyde olie på vandene.
However, it is emotion which has become more intense on account of the need, as far as this Parliament is concerned, to spot light the need for a political response rather than criticism and condemnation.
Derfor ved jeg, at hvis vi ønsker at rejse spørgsmålet om at gøre noget konkret på det politiske plan, vil vi støde på uhyre store vanskeligheder.
We cannot fail to criticize and condemn — and this is what we do in the motion tabled by the Group of the European People's Party — the fact that in spite of everything that has been said the situation in Poland has not got any clearer, there is still repression and we have to take a gloomy rather than a bright view of things.
Hvis vi vil hjælpe Polen og navnlig den polske befolkning, så kan vi efter min mening bedst nå dette med et maksimum af fællesskab.
It must realize that the process of European unity and our own unity represent a vital element of persuasion and a strong card that must be used to influence events in Poland.
Alle grupperepræsentanter, som deltog i drøftelsen i går, var indforstået hermed.
We must not accept the policy oí faits accomplis, either within countries or in international relations.
Det beslutningsforslag, jeg har udarbejdet — i øvrigt husker De nok, at jeg allerede i december rejste dette spørgsmål — har jeg forsøgt at formulere således, at man undgik alt for megen polemik og politisk præget kritik — som i øvrigt både jeg selv og andre tidligere har givet udtryk for — netop fordi det egentlige mål med denne tekst var at få gennemtrumfet, at Parlamentet sendte en delegation til Polen.
What dictators fear is not their opponents' armaments but the weapon of truth, the weapon of Helsinki — but of an active implementation of the Helsinki Agreement which alone can prevent us from being the eternal losers and from being united only hypocritically to celebrate the funeral of some democracy in the world. My dear colleagues, you are never united to attack, to demand that liberty should win through elsewhere.
Formanden. — Hr. Hänsch, det spørgsmål, De har rejst, er et spørgsmål, der henhører under de politiske grupper og ikke under denne Forsamling.
I am sorry that the political groups in this House were not able to formulate a common stance on Poland, which is what was done by the Foreign Ministers meeting in political cooperation.
Samtidig med, at De henviste til de to betænkninger af Hänsch og Van Miert om samarbejdet mellem institutionerne, tilføjede De dengang med rette:
I do want to speak out here in the hope that this Parliament 'may perhaps adopt a common response to a problem which to some extent represents a challenge to the ability of Europe to offer a common response.
I dag, hvor det drejer sig om en tidligere kollega, som i Forsamlingen og andre steder altid har forsvaret vor institutions inter esser og en styrkelse af dens rolle, glæder vi os ganske særligt over mødet.
I wonder, though, when human rights are mentioned, whether we have not arrived at the day when human rights are being swallowed up by the kafkaesque world around us, where they are being viciously trampled underfoot.
Efter at vi nu i flere uger, efter en række private samtaler, har ventet en offentlig op positiv tale fra formandens side, var vi i formiddag meget nysgerrige efter at høre hr. Tindemans' meddelelse.
You might well reach the conclusion that in spite of this treatment what has to be sought is an accommodation with that mighty power in the East, which makes open use of force by way oí phsychological pressure to bring about what might be termed an invasion from within by the Polish military authorities.
Hvad angår det institutionelle aspekt blev vi ikke skuffet, selv om vi mener, at man må holde øje med, at de fremskridt, som absolut er nødvendige, sker inden for rammerne af traktaterne, og uden at man i for høj grad tager sin tilflugt til det interguvernementale samarbejde, og uden at man misbruger uformelle møder.
The job of the delegation would be to observe what happens to food aid from the European Community on its arrival and to ensure that this aid actually reached the Polish people, to obtain as much information as possible on the treatment of political prisoners and to visit them wherever pernutted by the Polish authorities, and lastly to report to Parliament on its return.
Hr. formand, vi har pligt til at være åbenhjertige indbyrdes.
Mr Macciocchi. — (IT) Mr President, I want to talk about a motion tabled in connection with sending a delegation to Poland.
Jeg vil gerne sige, at vi er lidt desorienterede og rådvilde over indholdet af et interview, De for kort tid siden gav BRT (den nederlandsksprogede belgiske radio) som formand for Rådet.
In this context it is fitting to remember Parliament's duty to act and I shall go as far as to say, Mr President, that I should have expected a gesture along these lines, just as I am itili expecting one from you.
(NL) Jeg skal ikke komme nærmere ind på det formand skab — De ved sandsynligvis, at de fleste observatører gav mig størst chance for at blive valgt til formand for Parlamentet.
I now have before me here a motion by the EPP which makes the same request but which expresses it in a way I cannot agree with.
Når man først en gang har båret et ansvar, f.eks. i sit eget land, og har kunnet gøre noget konkret inden for politikken, så er det europæiske mandat frustrerende, fordi man godt kan holde smukke taler, og godt kan deltage i afstemninger, men aldrig har følelsen af, at man bidrager til en politik, at man har indflydelse på begivenhederne.
I am asking because I am still nurturing the hope that at the end of the day we can arrive at a joint resolution from Parliament on sending a delegation to Poland.
Og når man, som jeg siger, har båret et virkeligt ansvar, er det deprimerende og frustrerende.
Yesterday we had a meeting attended by all the political groups with their documents on the same problem.
Jeg kender Parlamentet som min egen vestelomme — og det vil sandsynligvis lette min optræden som minister, nu hvor jeg kender parlaments medlemmernes mentalitet: Men nu skal jeg forsvare Rådet, medens jeg tidligere sad i Parlamentet — det er to vidt forskellige holdninger.
From the meeting emerged our desire to have a discussion by the Political Affairs Committee — yesterday we failed to reach agreement on a joint text — which would enable us to table a joint motion on the idea of sending a delegation to Poland.
Det vigtige, hr. formand, er, at De understreger nødvendigheden af at »forbedre forholdet mellem institutionerne og især til Parlamentet«.
To be truthful, ladies and gentlemen — and I am saying this for your benefit as well, Mrs Gaiotti de Biase — I take a pessimistic view.
Det er et initiativ, der går tilbage til 1973.
I think we shall slowly get bogged down in long debates.
Jeg burde vide det, da jeg på det tidspunkt deltog i et møde i udvalget for sociale anliggender som formand for Rådet (sociale spørgsmål).
Anyhow, I know the masters at this kind of debate, the people who tell us to be careful and to take it easy, not to stir things up, because our job is to calm things down and to pour oil on troubled waters.
Jeg mener, vi bør tage det op igen og systematisere samarbejdet.
I do realize the tremendous difficulties we shall have to cope with if we want to get somewhere with some definite political action.
Det er altså en dobbelt virkelighed, der er tale om subjektive kommentarer, og vi har den følelse, at de meninger, der fremkom i dette interview ikke er helt i samme ånd, som en række taler af samme ophavsmand, her og andre steder.
The point is that, if I were asked, I should be ready for the sake of this joint approach to withdraw my resolution and to make every effort together with the other groups to see to it that at the first meeting of the Political Affairs Committee there is a discusssion which lets us adopt a single text on this idea of sending a delegation to Poland.
De véd, at det bliver forvirrende, når der er to slags sandhed i verden.
I speak with the pessimism of reason, ladies and gentlemen, and with the optimism of hope.
De ord, jeg har nævnt fra Deres tale, overrasker ikke, når de kommer fra én, gentager jeg, som for kun nogle få måneder siden i vor kreds, under drøftelsen af Genscher's og Colombo's meddelelser, understregede følgende. Jeg citerer:
Let me say by way of conclusion, Mr President, now that I have explained my resolution and in view of the fact that I have said I favour a joint resolution, that I am ready to agree to withdraw my motion for a resolution when voting time comes round this afternoon.
(NL) Dette Parlament er også i sin fulde ret til at drøfte alle de problemer, som Det europæiske Råd i fremtiden vil beskæftige sig med.
In this motion I have prepared I have made an effort — and the House will probably remember that I raised the matter back in December — to come up with a kind of resolution in which the more polemic aspects of strong political censure — which in any case has been expressed by me and by other people — were left
For at sige det meget kort håber vi, at De i enhver henseende
President. — I call Mr Hänsch.
Glinne tager hensyn til henstillingerne fra den europæiske fagforeningssammenslutning, og at De gør alt for sammen med andre at skabe det europæiske sociale område, som præsident François Mitterrand allerede gjorde sig til talsmand for, jeg tror i slutningen af maj forrige år.
Mr Hänsch. — (DE) Mr President, as agreed with the group representatives yesterday, we want to try to work out a joint statement on the situation in Poland at next week's meeting of the Political Affairs Committee.
Til slut, hr. formand, vil jeg gerne endnu en gang understrege, at arbejdsløshedsproblemet for os socialister stadig er det absolut vigtigste problem.
If we want to help Poland and especially the Polish people, the best way we can do it in my view is with the maximum unity.
De resultater, der konkret opnås på dette område, bør være væsentlige.
All the group representatives who took part in yesterday's discussion agreed on this.
Efter vor opfattelse har den lange ventetid for arbejderne i Europa og især for de ca. 10 mio registrerede arbejdsløse i dag — vi har sagt det, gentaget det, og vi siger det igen — varet længe nok.
I should like to ask you, Mrs Macciocchi, and also the spokesman of the EPP Group, whether this agreement still stands and whether you are going to withdraw your motions for resolutions, so that we can discuss the matter next week in the Political Affairs Committee.
Vi lægger også stor vægt på en styrkelse af det interne marked og på gennemførelsen af en egentlig industripolitik, således som De understreger i Deres indlæg.
An important step would be for the Council systematically to send a representative to our Parliamentary committees.
Vi vil gerne sige, at et heldigt udfald af dette møde bør være det afgørende mål, og ikke en række spørgsmål om, hvad der skal gøres i tilfælde af, at det slår fejl eller efter, at det har slået fejl.
This practice was begun as early as 1973, as I well know, for I was present in that year at a meeting of the Committee on Social Affairs and Employment, in my capacity as President of the Social Affairs Council.
Vi håber også, at der hurtigt findes en prag matisk løsning på budgetproblemet.
I think we must go back to this practice and institutionalize it.
Indtil nu har Rådet ikke truffet nogen beslutning om 1982budgettet, men vi ved, at medlemsstaterne den 1. februar vil blive afkrævet de første betalinger til finansiering af 1982-budgettet.
President. — Mr Hänsch, the point you have raised is one which has to be dealt with by the political groups and not by the House. A decision will have to be taken among the groups.
Belgien overtager formandskabet på et tidspunkt, der er præget af alvorlig spænding i Europa og i verden, og mange af vore medborgere er bange for fremtiden. Dette har utvivlsomt indflydelse på situationen og på den politiske udvikling i Europa.
The statements of yours which I have just mentioned, Mr Tindemans, are not surprising from someone — I repeat — who stressed here only a few months ago, in the debate on the statements by Mr Genscher and Mr Colombo — and I quote: that this Parliament too has a perfect right to debate all the problems which the European Council will also deal with in the future.
Det må ikke blive et elitært, teknokratisk centrum, men en europæisk decentraliseret bevægelse i alle Europas lande, som arbejder sammen med andre organer på dette område. Formanden lagde vægt på, at den sociale og økonomiske politik må styrkes, og vi kan skrive under på dette program.
Referring to the two reports by Mr Hänsch and Mr Van Miert on interinstitutional cooperation, you then added very rightly:
Vi er for vort vedkommende, hr. formand, rede til at hjælpe Dem med at støtte en pragmatisk løsning.
There are precedents, namely Mr Thorn and Mr Colombo, and we have no reason to be dissatisfied with them.
Desuden må man i så henseende kunne regne med et minimum af god vilje fra Rådet. Vi mener, det er dette, der karakteriserer Deres hold ning til dette spørgsmål.
Moreover, since as a result of certain private conversations, we have for several weeks been awaiting a positive public speech by the President-in-Office, we were very eager to hear Mr Tindemans' speech this morning.
Vi håber altså, at det belgiske formandskab vil spille en positiv og konstruktiv rolle på dette område.
On the institutional aspect, we were not disappointed, although it seems to us that we must ensure that progress, which is very necessary, takes place in the framework of the Treaties without too much use of intergovernmental cooperation and without misuse of informal meetings.
Det politiske samarbejde og især problemerne i Polen og Tyrkiet vil nogle af mine kolleger behandle mere detaljeret.
I must tell you that we were somewhat disconcerted and perplexed by the content of an interview which you gave recently on BRT (Belgian radio in Dutch) in your capacity as President-in-Office of the Council.
Jeg vil dog gerne sige en enkelt ting om den fredsbevarende styrke i Mellemøsten og, idet jeg henviser til visse rygter og pressecommuniqueer, advare mod, at EF-medlemsstaternes styrker deltager sammen med styrker fra diktaturlande.
Subject to more detailed checks, our initial reaction is that the tone adopted and the content of your remarks are not entirely felicitous with regard to our Parliament.
Man forestiller sig europæiske tropper ved siden af et uruguaysk kontingent.
I shall quote only one extract from the transcript of your interview, which somewhat surprised us.
Det er en detalje, men det er dog bedre at træffe dispositioner i tide for at afværge en sådan usund sammen sætning.
I had been questioned about your possible candidacy for the presidency of our Parliament, which you had considered at one stage, and you said the following:
Landbruget er fortsat en af de vigtigste støttepiller i den europæiske politik.
We took note of what you said about Ambassador de Schoutheete's mission.
Formanden understregede dette endnu engang, men vi vil gerne have lov til at give udtryk for vor bekymring over den aktuelle forsinkelse, fordi Kommissionen endnu ikke har givet meddelelse om nogen priser. Vi forstår, at den sætter dette problem og problemet med omstruktureringen såvel som problemet med mandatet i forbindelse med hinanden.
The important thing, Mr Tindemans, is that you stressed the need to improve relations among the institutions and particularly with Parliament.
Spørgsmålet om priserne er imidlertid så vigtigt for landbrugerne i Europa, at man ikke må smøle længere med det.
I am pleased that you said clearly that consultation between the Council and Parliament could be extended to cover matters that do not necessarily have primarily financial implications.
Men i mellemtiden er antallet af arbejdsløse steget fra næsten 7 mio. til 10 mio. og fremtidsudsig-
We also take note, with interest, of your statement that the Council should react to every statement of
Hr. formand, ved slutningen af det belgiske formand skab, vil vi igen mødes i denne kreds.
I shall not go into the matter of the presidency — you probably know that most observers still gave me the best chance of becoming President of that Parliament.
Vi kan så gøre status og på grundlag af konkrete kendsgerninger bedømme resultaterne af hr. Tindemans' indsats.
But I went no further with the matter, since it no longer interested me.
For at sige sandheden venter vi ikke mirakler, men vi venter afgørende fremskridt.
When one has once borne responsibility, for
De omtalte Parlamentets rolle, og vi takker Dem for det initiativ, De vil tage først og fremmest med hensyn til ministrenes tilstedeværelse, ikke blot i Parlamentet men også under udvalgsmøder.
example in one's own country, and has been able to do something in practical politics, the European mandate is frustrating in that, although one can make fine speeches and take part in votes there, one never has the feeling that one is contributing to a policy or that one has influence on events.
Så vil jeg gerne omtale tre ting vedrørende vort Parlaments situation.
I know the European Parliament inside out — this will probably facilitate my task as a minister, since I now understand the psychology of the Members of Parliament.