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Det er mig magtpåliggende at gøre opmærksom på dette, fordi det er vigtigt, at Parlamentet overholder budgetproceduren, da dens institutionelle magt er af hængig heraf. Jeg mener ikke, det er heldigt, når Par lamentet kommer med forskellige fortolkninger og lader noget være underforstået.
Mr Schön (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, from the start of the discussion on the supplementary budget for 1984 the Group of the Euro pean People's Party has argued in favour of ratifying it so as to enable the Community's obligations in terms of compulsory expenditure to be met before the end of this year.
Formanden. — Hr. Dankert, tak for Deres forslag, Det vil blive forelagt formanden.
The German Federal Republic has developed the notion of a new financial adjustment system which is an almost federal concept of give and take in the Community.
Formanden. — Jeg vil gerne minde Parlamentet om, at formanden i formiddags informerede medlemmer ne om budgetudvalgets beslutning, som blev truffet i går.
Mr Price (ED). — Mr President, at the outset of the proceedings the President-in-Office of the Council apologized to us for the delay in submitting the 1985 budget and the 1984 supplementary budget to Parliament.
Parlamentet satte spørgsmålet til afstemning og besluttede, at afstemning om forslaget om overførsel skulle finde sted kl. 15.00 i dag. Jeg må acceptere, at Parlamentet enerådigt træffer beslutning om sin egen procedure.
I would like to reassure him that he need not feel any need for personal apology or embarrassment, because the Parliament is very used to Council's delays, and indeed, the delays in respect of these two documents are the least of our problems.
Med hensyn til den lille sag med bemærkningen, som jeg fremkom med i udvalget om ungdom, kultur, uddannelse, information og sport, hvis ordlyd er op taget på bånd, og som lyder som følger: »Jeg ville sige med et blink i øjet — nej, jeg siger med et blink i øjet — at vi aldrig ville forhindre en englænder i at kalde en banegård for Waterloo, eller en franskmand i at kalde en banegård Austerlitz «, så synes jeg, at det er ret let at lære fransk, og jeg ved, at tolkene ikke har begået nogen fejl. Lad mig tilføje, at alle de delegerede trak på smilebåndet.
The main problem is the delay on the part of Council in taking the essential decisions which are reflected in those documents, and it is in dealing with the situation caused by those delays that we have the problems facing the Community now.
Dankert (S). — (EN) Fru formand, jeg har problemer med de procedurer, De har valgt.
Admittedly we have, as our debate has shown, turned this issue into a package deal by including the release of the rebates or refunds to the United Kingdom.
Budgetudvalget foreslår at frigive den britiske tilbagebetaling. Person ligt er jeg enig; det er ikke noget problem.
I should remind you that the inclusion of these funds in Chapter 100 proved to be an extremely effective budgetary instrument for our Parliament.
Men så skal Parlamentet stemme på en sådan måde, at de, der stemmer imod forslaget, stemmer »ja«, og de, der stemmer for, stemmer » nej «. Det er proceduren, og De gjorde det omvendt.
I am of course aware of the concern of those Members who have argued that we may have been over-hasty in disposing of an instrument which could have been used to exert more pressure on the Council or the Commission.
Lad mig sige, at jeg var overbevist om, at en englænder, selv om han tilhører arbejderpartiet, altid ville bevare sin humoristiske sans.
In respect of the 1984 supplementary budget, Council, of course, failed to take the essential decisions early enough: either to limit our commitments — and in particular, of course, I am thinking of the agricultural sector and the important decisions that were taken on 31 March — or to make the necessary resources avail able early enough to meet the commitments.
Formanden. — Jeg beklager, hr. Dankert, dette blev besluttet her til morgen under normal forhandling.
Our Group has discussed these issues and is convinced that the Council has to take the political decisions which will resolve the present situation.
De var her muligvis ikke mellem kl. 9 og 9.30, men et stort flertal her i Parlamentet, besluttede, at man kl. 15 skulle stemme om forslaget til overførsel af bevillinger nr. 28/84 med henblik på frigivelsen af den britiske tilbagebetaling.
If the Council possesses the political resolve to get the Community out of this impasse, it simply has to set an example, particularly where the draft budget for 1985 is con cerned, but more particularly in terms of the accession of Spain and Portugal.
Man kunne forvente, hr. Dankert, da De selv er et meget agtet medlem af bud-
If the Community really is in
Chambeiron (COM). — (FR) Fru formand, i denne forhandling er der tre vigtige spørgsmål.
(The sitting was suspended at 1.00 p.m. and resumed at 3.00 p.m.)
getudvalget, at De var klar over, hvad denne over førsel refererede til. (')·
That, I think, is a very serious situation, which speaker after speaker in this debate has emphasized today.
For det første: tilbagebetalingen af det britiske bidrag.
It is not, however, something that should be exaggerated.
Flertallet i budgetudvalget har udtalt sig til for del for en frigivelse, fordi man anså, at de betingelser, Europa-Parlamentet tidligere havde stillet, var blevet opfyldt.
The speech we heard from Mr Pitt a moment or two ago, where he sought to draw an analogy with a bankrupt company, was clearly gross exaggeration, because the Community debate is on when and how the resources should be provided.
De kan ikke forstå, hvorfor en af de finansielt relativt bedre stillede medlemsstater nu så at sige får kontanter fra fællesskabskassen inden for rammerne af budgettet i 1984 og for det forlængst udløbne budgetår 1983.
The causes of the problems this year are very closely related to the difficulties in the agricultural sector, and that, of course, is the major part of our Community budget now and is likely to remain so for the foreseeable future.
Vi har et ordsprog, der siger: »Man ved, hvad man har, men ikke, hvad man får«.
It relates to a document, of which I have given the Chair a copy, called Labour News from the European Parliament dated 9 October 1984.
For resten så hindrer vort afslag på at frigive de 750 millioner ECU slet ikke, at tillægsbudgettet kan ved tages, for Rådet har sagt, at det for 1984 har forpligtet sig til under alle omstændigheder at dække udgifter ne, selv i tilfælde af en britisk tilbagetrækning.
First, the facts alleged about the committee decision to change the names of various railway stations are not true at all, have no foundation in fact and the allegation that they were made by Mr Baudouin is simply not true and we have clear evidence of this to submit to the Bureau.
Vi vil derfor fortsat være meget opmærksomme på de manøvrer, der kunne tænkes foretaget, når der stemmes om tillægsbudget tet i anden mødeperiode i oktober.
Second, this document impugns the honour of the interpretation service of this Parliament, on which we totally rely through all our working hours.
Det vigtigste er ikke det, man kan læse i forslaget, men snarere det, der ikke står der, tavsheden — især om midlerne til dækning af behov ud over margenen på 1 %, som kan komme til at udgøre over 3 milliarder ECU.
One can see that more difficult decisions are required in the agricultural sector, and the sooner the Council faces up to them the better it will be not just for Europe's taxpayers, but also — and one might say that this is even more important — for Europe's farmers.
I Det forenede Kongerige er der i de forgangne måneder og år — ganske vist uberettiget efter min mening, men ikke til at komme udenom defacto — vakt forventninger om at få disse betalinger. ger.
Mr Cottrell (ED). — Madam President, may I suggest that the correct procedure would be to refer this whole business to the Committee on the Rules of Pro cedure of this House?
Det har næsten ikke rørt ved regionalfondens og socialfondens bevillinger, men har til gengæld skåret ned på bevillingerne til udviklingslandene med et fald på 27% i fødevarehjælpen.
Finally, I would like to comment briefly on the answers to the Notenboom question. It seems to me that there were some improvements in the Commission's implementation insofar as it lay within the con trol of the Commission.
Man kan godt forestille sig, hvad alle AVS-staterne vil tænke, når der skal forhandles om Lomé III.
But, of course, each year in response to that question, we have two kinds of situation: the first is where the Commission itself through its administration causes delays — and that is where I think there have been improvements; the other is where it is impossible for the Commission to spend because of delays in Council.
I fremtiden må jeg holde mig til det udtrykkelige pålæg, jeg har fået fra vælgerne, og kan ikke mere give min godkendelse til lignende operationer for flere udløbne budgetår.
What I regret is that yet again we are faced with a whole list of decisions facing the Council which, until they are taken, will not enable the money to be spent.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er fortsat forhandling under et om budgetspørgsmål.
When can Parliament give its views on whether it wishes to change the deadlines?
De franske kommunister og beslægtede er godt klar over, hvor snævre grænserne er for dette budget, som det vil være illusorisk at tro kan få nogen afgørende indflydelse på krisen, men de vil gribe kritisk og konstruktivt ind under hele budgetbehandlingen med det formål at opnå forbedringer ved at søge nye ressourcer, opnå en afbalancering af landbrugsudgifterne til fordel for de dårligst stillede producenter og de små landbrug, således at strukturfondene bliver bedre ud-
So, Mr President, I would like to wind up by saying to the President-in-Office of the Council that he need not feel that he needs to apologize unduly in relation to the delays in presenting the budget: the delays in Council are a lot greater than that, and he needs to apologize not just to the European Parliament, but to
(') Debat om aktuelle og uopsættelige spørgsmål (indsigelser): se mødeprotokollen.
President. — Mr von der Vring, this is for the President to decide.
navnlig med hensyn til landbrugspriserne.
President. — Thank you, Mr Dankert, for your pro posal.
Og er sandheden ikke også den, at Rådet er i færd med at underminere Fæl lesskabet?
It will be put to the President.
Det var de bemærkninger, jeg ville fremsætte, fru for mand, for de franske kommunister og beslægtede i denne budgetforhandling, og som vi vil få lejlighed til at konkretisere og uddybe i form af ændringsforslag. slag.
Mr Baudouin (RDE). — (FR) Madam President, an accusation has been levelled at me personally, which is why I have asked to speak.
Det er vigtigt, at det her bliver sagt, for nu, da vi har overstået en valgkampagne, hvor vi ikke har bestilt andet end at sige, at den eneste chance for vore moderne samfund lå i at styrke den europæiske tanke, så er det klart for os, at vi ikke kan acceptere, sådan en holdning.
Mr McMahon (S). — On a point of order, Madam President, what is happening with the request from Mrs Ewing? I am one of the individuals concerned who put their names to the press release, and as far as I was concerned the words were used, albeit perhaps in a jocular fashion.
Rådet må vide, at vi ikke vil medvirke til sådanne handlinger, og det er klart nødvendigt, at Rådet langt om længe fortæller os, hvad det er for et landbrug, det ønsker for Europa, og hvad det er for et Europa, det ønsker at skabe, hvis det virkelig stadig er overbevist om det nødvendige heri.
I have been endeavouring to take French lessons from the Parliament in the summer of this year, and although I have not really got as far as appreciating the French sense of humor, as far as I am concerned the Member concerned did make the suggestion that these railway stations should be renamed. named.
Pasty (RDE). — (FR) Fru formand, kære kolleger.
(Cries of 'rubbish' from the European benches)
Parlamentets historie er spækket med mere eller mindre alvorlige budgetkriser, og man kan godt sige, at det er en naturlig følge af de beføjelser, budget myndighedens to grene har.
As regards this minor question of what I said in the Committee on Youth, Culture, Education, Information and Sport, my exact words as recorded were 'I would say jokingly (note my use of the work jokingly) that we shall never prevent an Englishman from calling his station Waterloo or a Frenchman from calling his station Austerlitz.'
Men jeg vil dog gerne understrege den nuværende krises besynderlige og ekstraordinære karakter.
You will notice that the Tories have the same respect for democracy in this House as they have in Britain with the mining community.
Det er en permanent budgetkrise, for man har forhandlet om de samme problemer praktisk talt siden årets begyndelse. delse.
I should just like to say that I was convinced that an Englishman, even from the Labour Party, never looses his sense of humour, but it seems that in Brussels this particular Englishman did just that.
Med hensyn til det væsentlige vil jeg gerne klart sige, at Rådet, når det foreslår os dette tillægsbudget, hver ken opviser mod eller klarhed.
Writing some sanitized version of history, excising references to Hitler and to the First World War, will not help the European ideal one iota.
Det slører fuldstændigt sandheden for os og afviser realiteterne.
I ask you not to accede to the request of Mrs Ewing.
Og endelig er det en situation, hvor der ingen garanti er for, at Fællesskabet kan fungere normalt.
Mr Saby (S). — (FR) Madam President, I should like to raise a point of order concerning the budgetary procedure.
Sandheden er, at dette tillægsbudget helt klart er utilstrækkeligt.
President. — This subject is not on the agenda of this House today.
Sandheden er, at de besparelser, man foreslår os, betyder, at de beslutninger, budgetmyndigheden har truffet, drages i tvivl, og navnlig, at den fælles politik indskrænkes.
Mrs Ewing has drawn the attention of the House to a certain matter and asked for it to be referred to the Bureau.
Det er helt sikkert en budgetkrise, men det er også en institutionel krise og en politisk krise om tillid til selve Fællesskabet og dets fremtid.
The debate which took place at the beginning of this morning's sitting was not in line with our normal pro cedure, which I should like to describe.
Hvad er i virkeligheden Rådets aftale af 1. og 2. oktober andet end en forjasket, delvis og ufuldendt løsning, der er udarbejdet på grundlag af sjakren og udelukkende dikteret af kravet om, at den skulle gå hurtigt igennem?
It is up to the Committee on Budgets of this House to give a definitive ruling on any transfer from Chapter 100 to another chapter.
Sandheden er, at Rådet ikke længere påtager sig sine forpligtelser.
The Committee therefore carried out its part of the budgetary procedure and forwarded its conclusions to the President of Parliament, in the same form as in July.
Det påtager sig ikke engang dem, der er opstået på grund af tidligere trufne beslutninger,
The President of Parliament is thus right in wish ing to put these conclusions before the House, as was done in July.
Jeg indrømmer, at der foreligger et forslag til tillægsbudget for 1984.
In theory that is right, but a dead line has been fixed, to the surprise of many Members of this House, and that deadline creates enormous difficulty as far as the amending of the supplementary budget 1984 is concerned.
Der foreligger også et forslag til almindeligt budget for 1985.
I would propose to put off the deadline until 2 p.m. on Tuesday, next week.
Men i hvilken form og under hvilke betingelser!
It is impossible otherwise.
I 1984 har Rådet blot und gået det værste, dvs. at Fællesskabet skandaløst mis-
I feel it is not a good thing for this House to interpret the rules in different ways with all that this implies.
Pasty de år til de nye politikker, som Rådet for øvrigt havde forpligtet sig til at fremme.
The House voted on this matter and decided to vote on the proposal for transfer at 3 o'clock this afternoon.
Ja, det er sandelig en delvis, ufuldkommen og beskåret aftale, hvor de væsentlige problemer stadig ikke er afklarede.
I must accept that this House is sovereign in its procedures.
Ef ter flere måneders debat, forhandlinger og kompromiser havde vi med fuld ret kunnet forvente en definitiv og global aftale om samtlige uafgjorte problemer.
I agree with my electors in taking exception to the fact that the public discussion on this one point alone, which mainly concerns the United Kingdom, has led to a complete revaluation of the Com munity.
Altså er dette budget utilstrækkeligt, beskåret og manipuleret. nipuleret.
Transfer of appropriations No 28/84 : adopted
Hvor er de indtægter henne, som Kommissionen re fererer til i sit foreløbige budgetforslag, og som er forsvundet i Rådets beregninger?
Although I intend to vote with the Socialist Group for the proposal by the Committee on Budgets, I do so in spite of many difficulties and qualms of conscience, chiefly on account of the protection of public confidence.
Når Rådet stryger de bevillinger, der var afsat til programmet til ned bringelse af landbrugsoverskudslagrene, overføres blot de vanskeligheder, man undgår i dag, til regn skabsåret 1985.
I must say in the United Kingdom's favour that in the past months and years — in my view, however, without justification but de facto unmistakably — the expectation has been aroused that it would receive these payments.
Det er især tilfældet med den akt om budgetdisciplin, der er under udarbejdelse, og som hænger som et veritabelt damoklessværd over den fælles landbrugspolitik.
Mr Dankert (S). — Madam President, I have difficulties with the procedures you have chosen.
Hvad betyder en politisk forpligtelse til at dække det te underskud i denne institutionelle kræmmerpraksis?
How ever Parliament then has to vote in such a way that those opposing the proposal vote 'yes' and those accepting vote 'no'.
Den betyder intet, eller i hvert fald ikke meget. Det har erfaringen vist os.
That is the procedure and you turned it around.
Det er altså disse sørgelige omstændigheder, budget tet for 1985 befinder sig i!
I also object to the fact that a system of offsetting the payments against payments due was not chosen instead of a straight refund.
I stedet for en realistisk og dynamisk landbrugspolitik, der kunne give EF mulighed for at være med på verdensmarkederne, vil man sætte en budgetpolitik, der er i modstrid med traktatens ånd og bogstav, især artikel 39, der fastslår målene for den fælles land brugspolitik og sikringen af en rimelig levestandard for landbrugsbefolkningen.
In future I must comply with the express mandate from my voters and shall no longer be able to agree to similar operations in respect of budgetary years which have already elapsed.
Denne aftale svæver oven i købet i det uvisse.
President. — I am sorry, Mr Dankert, this was decided this morning in full debate.
Når man påstår, at man vil reducere landbrugsudgifterne for at gå i gang med nye fælles politikker, er det ikke rigtigt.
President. — The next item is the continuation of the joint debate on the budget.
I budgettet for 1985 er det desuden første gang i Fæl lesskabets historie, at Rådet har besluttet at fritage en medlemsstat, nemlig Storbritannien, for at bære sin del af byrderne i forbindelse med en del af landbrugsudgifterne for derved at imødekomme løftet om en tilbagebetaling i 1984.
Mr Rogalla (S), in writing. — (DE) The workers in the Bochum steel and car industries and other workers from Westphalia, who are those chiefly responsible for sending me to the European Parliament, have serious reservations with regard to the forthcoming decision by the European Parliament.
Stramningen i budgetforslaget 1985 og budgetdisciplinen river faktisk illusionens slør i stykker.
First, the rebate on the United Kingdom contribution.
Lad os bare sige kort og godt, at indtil nu har man præsenteret os for følgende alternativ : enten den fælles land brugspolitik eller nye politikker for at understrege, at det er nødvendigt at have væksten i landbrugsudgifterne under kontrol, hvis man vil udvikle nye politik ker.
The Committee on Budgets decided by a majority to release the rebate on the grounds that the conditions imposed earlier by the European Parliament had been met.
I dag må vi konstatere, at problematikken har ændret sig.
These obligations must be met.
Det er Rådet, der har belært os om, at der ikke længere kan blive tale hverken om landbrugspolitik eller om nye politikker.
This does not exclude the possibility of redistributing or correcting the financial burdens in
Og så sidste punkt i denne sag: de nye egne indtægter. ter.
Topical and urgent debate (objections): See Minutes.
I denne situation har vi end ikke talt færdige om underskuddet på EUGFL-bevillingerne.
Chambeiron taking a decision, particularly for the sake of the farm ers, I am astonished that Parliament is still not in a position to decide on the supplementary budget for 1984 during the course of this session.
Lad os tale åbent: det er en hård lære. Det, som Rådet foreslår i dag, er en tiltagende nedbrydning af Fællesskabet, det er et rabat-Europa, et Europa i stumper og stykker.
ECU will not hinder the adoption of the supplementary budget: the Council has informed us that it was in any case committed to covering expenditure for 1984, even if the United Kingdom defaulted.
Man betvivler det, Fællesskabet allerede har opnået, og man udvikler ikke Fællesskabets nye politikker.
Nevertheless, we now repeat that our prime concern is to cover the deficit in the 1984 budget as quickly as possible so as to enable the Community to honour its commitments to the farmers.
Man vender tilbage til løsningen med forhandlinger imellem regeringerne i strid med traktaten og institutionerne.
We shall be looking out for any lastminute manoeuvres when we vote on the supplementary budget at the second October session.
Det er en institutionel krise, fordi Rådet lidt efter lidt opløser Fællesskabets institutioner.
Basically, the Council is demonstrating neither courage nor clarity in presenting us with this supplementary budget.
Det er en politisk krise, fordi den stadige sjakren i Rådet udelukker enhver tillid til Fællesskabets fremtid.
It is totally concealing the truth from us and ignoring the facts.
Det betyder på en vis måde, at vi også må tænke på, at vi ligeledes taber næsten halvdelen af vore samhandelsmuligheder i verden.
The most striking aspect of it is not what is said but what is not said: the omissions, particularly concerning the funds needed to cover the requirements over and above the 1 % ceiling which are threatening to exceed three thousand million ECU.
Over for dette frygteligt foruroligende problem, der fremskynder til bageskridtet og undergraver Fællesskabets muligheder på det monetære, økonomiske, politiske og sociale plan, så mener jeg, at vi i dag er i den anden ende af kikkertern.
Even before a new budgetary discipline has been applied, the Council is deliberately underestimating agricultural expenditure with the undisguised aim of pressuring both Parliament and public opinion before agricultural prices for 1985-1986 have been
Jeg synes, at tingene må sæt tes i deres rette sammenhæng og tillægges deres virkelige vægt.
The artificial inclusion of items of revenue which to all appearances will not be received simply means carry ing over the same problems and the same budget deficit into 1985.
Deres virkelige vægt er først og fremmest et fællesskabsbudget, der udgør mindre end 3% af summen af nationalbudgetterne og mindre end 1 % af Fællesskabets bruttonationalprodukt i dets helhed.
The Council has made its choice. It has hardly touched the ERDF or the Social Fund appropriations, but it has done a hatchet job on development appropriations with a drop of 27% in food aid.
Og hvad er da så dette fællesskabsbudget?
One can imagine what the ACP countries will have to say about this at the Lomé III negotiations.
Hvis man vil lægge magten så tæt ud til Fællesskabets borgere som muligt, så må det ikke være sådan, at en enkelt institution erstatter regionale, nationale og an dre realiteter.
The truth is that the Council is shirking its responsibilities, even those deriving from previous decisions, particularly on farm prices.