natgillin/translations-raw huggingface dataset:
1­1273/ 82/ændr. og 1­44/83) af Krouwel­Vlam og betænkning (dok.
1-1273/82/rev. and 1-44/83)
Nyborg, Calvez, Seitlinger, Såby, Pauwelyn, de Goede, Narjes (Kommissionen), Fuillet, Elaine Kellet­Bowman, Gaüand Sutra, Nyborg
Mr Nyborg; Mr Calvez; Mr Seitlinger; Mr Saby; Mrs Pauwelyn; Mr De Goede; Mr Narjes (Commission); Mrs Fuillet; Airs Kellett-Bowman; Mr Galland; Mr Sutra; Mr Nyborg
Foderlægemidler. — Betænkning 1­79/83) af Squarcialupi:
Medicated feedingstuffs — Report (Doc.
1­159/83/ ændr.) af Ephremidis og (dok.
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Squarcialupi, Krouwel­ Vlam, Comette, Dalsager (Kommissionen), (Rådet), Squarcialupi, Chory
Mr Chory (Council); Mrs Squarcialupi; Mr Chory
1­82/83) af Collins:
1-82/83) by Mr Collins: Mr Collins: Mr Alber
1-101/83) af Johnson og mundtlige fore spørgsler med forhandling (dok.
1-101/83) by Mr Johnson and oral questions with debate by Mrs Théobald-Paoii (Doc.
1-1277/82) af Théobald-Paoli og (dok. 1-285/82) af von Alemann m.fl.:
1-1277/82) and Mrs von Alemann and others (Doc. 1-1285/82):
Information vedrørende skattespørgsmål. — Betænkning (dok.
Information and consultation procedure for tax matters — Report (Doc.
1-1331/83) af Beumer:
1-1331/82) by Mr Beumer:
Beumer, Provan, Dalsager (Kommissionen)
Mr Beumer; Mr Provan; (Commission)
1-89/83) af Pery:
1-89/83) by Mrs Pery:
Pery, Helms, Battersby, Dalsager
Mrs Pery; Mr Helms; Mr Battersby; Mr Dal sager (Commission)
Godkendelse for 1981. — Europa-Parlamentet og EIB (dok.
Organ transplants — Report (Doc.
1-75/83, 1-112/83, 1-97/83, 1-70/83, 1-96/83 og 1-1309/82) (fortsættelse):
1-94/83) by Mr Del Duca: Mr Del Duca; Mrs Krouwel-Vlam; Mr Dal sager (Commission)
Pery, Dalsager (Kommissionen)
Mrs Pery; Mr Dalsager (Commission)
Parlamentets driftsregnskab for 1982. — Betænkning (dok.
Administrative expenditure for 1982 — Report (Doc.
1-100/83) af Såby:
1-100/83) by Mr Saby:
1-1312/83) af Herman og mundtlig fore
IN THE CHAIR: LADY ELLES
Formanden. — Protokollen fra mødet i går er omdelt.
President. — The Minutes of Proceedings of yesterday's sitting have been distributed.
Den ret har de, og derfor bør en sådan afgørelse ikke gælde.
Are there any comments?
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They have that right and no such ruling should apply.
Formanden at sørge for at der såfremt den ønsker at fremsætte den udtalelse, indgiver en anmodning herom til formanden for Parlamentet, som i givet fald vil tildele Kommissionen den nødvendige taletid.
As far as I am concerned, if this is to be brought before the chairmen of the political groups, let it be brought before them, but I just wanted to make it clear that, as chairman of our group, I had no under standing that this was the fact, as was suggested by the Chair yesterday.
I henhold til forretningsordenen har et medlem ret til at anmode om en forhandling på grundlag af spørgsmål.
President. — Mr Marshall, I cannot speak on behalf of the Commission.
Så uanset hvad de politiske gruppefor­mænd beslutter, har medlemmet stadigvæk den ret.
I can only reiterate that under Rule 66 the Commission has the right to request the floor of this House.
Jeg vil lade sagen undersøge nærmere og håber derefter at kunne give sir James Scott­Hopkins et svar.
I would, therefore, ask the Commission to ensure that, if it wishes to make that statement, that request is put to the President of Parliament, in which case time must be allotted to the Commission to make it.
Narjes, medlem af Kommissionen. — (DE) Kommis­sionen er ikke for øjeblikket forberedt på sådanne udtalelser.
Mr Narjes, Member of the Commission. — (DE) The Commission is not in a position to make this statement at the present time.
Formanden. — Mange tak, hr. kommissær, det afkla­rede spørgsmålet.
President. — Thank you very much, Mr Commissioner, that clarifies the issue.
Beazley (ED). — (EN) Fru formand, kan jeg gennem Dem spørge kommissæren, hvorfor Kommissionen ikke er parat til at fremsætte denne udtalelse, når den allerede har skrevet til vor formand og forklaret sine synspunkter, hvor vi allerede i mandags anmodede om dette?
Mr Beazley (ED). — Madam President, can I, through you, ask the Commissioner why the Commission is not prepared to make that statement when they have already written to our President explaining their views, and on Monday we requested this?
Formanden. — Hr. Beazley, jeg synes De skulle tage spørgsmålet op med den pågældende kommissær, eftersom denne sag på nuværende tidspunkt ikke er noget, der skal afgøres på Parlamentets talerstol (')■ (Parlamentet godkendte protokollen)
President. — Mr Beazley, if you will take that up with the Commissioner concerned, I think this is a matter which should not be settled on the floor of the House, at this moment.1
Hopper (ED). — (EN) Jeg vil gerne i forbindelse med det sidste indlæg have ordet for en bemærkning til forretningsordenen. Kommissionen har i en skri­velse til formanden for Europa­Parlamentet meddelt, at Kommissionen forkaster Parlamentets udtalelse om harmonisering af afgifter på cigaretter, jeg har anbmodet Kommissionen om at fremsætte en udta­lelse i Parlamentet om dette emne i denne uge.
Mr Hopper (ED). — On a point of order relative to the last one, the Commission has written to the President of the European Parliament saying that the Com mission rejects the Parliament's opinion on the subject of cigarette tax harmonization.
Kommissionen indvilligede heri, men formanden meddelte os, at eftersom sagen ikke stod på dagsor­denen, havde.
I requested the Com mission to make a statement in this Parliament this week on this subject.
Kommissionen ikke ret til at tale om dette emne.
The Commission agreed, but the President informed us that since it was not on the agenda the Commission had no right to speak on this subject.
Efter at have set nøjere i forretningsor­denen, er jeg kommet til den konklusion, at der ikke er nogen hjemmel i forretningsordenen for forman­dens udtalelse, og jeg mener, at det ville være meget beklageligt, hvis dette skal skabe præcedens.
After having studied the Rules, I have come to the conclusion that there is no basis in the Rules for this statement by the President, and I would be most unhappy if it were allowed to become a precedent.
Formanden. — Jeg skal meddele, at hr. Deniau har givet mig skriftlig meddelelse om, at han fratræder som medlem af Europa­Parlamentet med virkning fra den 14. april 1983.
President. — Of course, Mr Hopper, the Commission and the Council have the right to request to speak at any time, as long as it can be fitted in timewise into the proceedings of the Parliament.
Formanden. — Hr. Hopper, selvfølgelig har Kommis­sionen og Rådet ret til at anmode om at tale på et hvilket som helst tidspunkt, når blot det tidsmæssigt passer ind i Parlamentets forhandlinger.
President. — I have received from Mr Deniau notification in writting of his resignation as Member of Par liament with effect from 14 April 1983.
Men hvis Kommissionen ikke fremsætter en sådan formel anmodning, er det selvfølgelig ikke muligt at indtegne den på talelisten
Pursuant to Article 12(2), second sub-paragraph, of the Act con cerning the election of the representatives of the Assembly, Parliament establishes that there is a vacancy and will inform the Member State concerned.
I overensstemmelse med artikel 12, stk. 2, andet afsnit i Akt Om almindelige direkte valg af repræsentanterne i Forsamlingen konstaterer Parlamentet, at et mandat er blevet ledigt, og underretter medlemsstaten herom.
Mr Hopper (ED). — On a further point, Madam President, Commissioner Andriessen clearly indicated a willingness to make a staement, but he was told that it was out of order because it was not on the agenda, and I think the Chair misled the House and the Corn-
Hopper (ED). — (EN) Jeg vil gerne komme med endnu en bemærkning til forretningsordenen, fru formand.
Mr de Courcy Ling (ED). — Madam President, my point relates to the sad announcement, which you
Formanden. — Endnu engang, hr. Hopper, må jeg gøre opmærksom på, at ifølge forretningsordenen har både Kommissionen og Rådet ret til at anmode om at få ordet i dette Parlament, og der må findes på en løsning, således at sådanne anmodninger kan efter­kommes.
President. — I must repeat, Mr Hopper, that in the Rules of Procedure, both the Commission and the Council have the right to request the floor of this
Jeg vil rejse dette spørgsmål.
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de Courcy Ling (ED). — (EN) Fru formand, det jeg vil sige har forbindelse med den beklagelige medde­lelse, De lige har givet, om hr. Deniaus fratræden fra Parlamentet, og jeg år ud fra, at tidspunktet for denne meddelelse skyldes den socialistiske gruppes påstand om, at de faktisk tror på krænkelse af den frie bevægelighed for turister, ikke kun franske turi­ster, men i fremtiden også britiske turister.
(Loud applause) have just made, of the resignation of Mr Deniau from this Parliament and I take it that the timing of this announcement is on account of the assertion by the Socialist Group that they actually do believe in violating the freedom of movement of tourists, not only French tourists, but in the future British tourists.
Jeg er meget ked af, at denne handling fra den socialistiske gruppes side tilsyneladende — efter tidspunktet for Deres meddelelse at dømme — har ført til hr. Deniaus tilbagetræden.
I am very sad that this action by the Socialist Group should have led apparently, according to the timing of your announcement, to Mr Deniau's resignation.
Jeg sympatiserer meget med hans motiver.
I sympathize very much with his motives.
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We can do without a Commission which spends all its time bemoaning in public its lack of powers.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er forhandling om
President. — The next item is a joint debate on :
Derfor vil jeg anmode Kommissionen om
I deplore the fact that that is not the convention in Europe.
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— the motion for a resolution tabled by Mr de la Malene, on behalf of the Group of European Progressive Democrats, on the disappearance of wastes contaminated by dioxin (Doc.
Formanden kristeligdemokratiske gruppe) om manipulering og handel i og uden for Fællesskabet med giftige stoffer
If as much energy had been expended in the past on ensuring the safe disposal of transfrontier waste as has been channelled into today's indignation, the Seveso problem would never had arisen.
Seveso er toppen af isbjerget.
Seveso is not a one-off occurrence.
Seveso er hver dag på vore veje, fordi giftigt affald og giftige stoffer dagligt vagabonderer over grænserne uden at vi nøjagtigt ved, hvad der er i transporterne, og hvor det kommer fra.
Seveso is in fact the tip of an iceberg, and is present every day on our roads, because toxic waste and materials are being shifted backwards and forwards across national borders every day without our knowing what is in the containers and where the stuff comes from.
Seveso er symbol på et industrisamfund, som dag ud og dag ind tager en teknologi i brug, hvis følger det ikke kender.
Seveso is the hallmark of an industrially developed society which is daily embracing new technologies without any regard for their possible repercussions.
Udkastet til direktiv fra januar er et skridt fremad, hvis det bliver skærpet på de rigtige steder.
The draft directive of January is a step forward so long as it is given teeth at the proper places.
Vi kender alle problemerne i forbindelse med medlemsstaternes gennemførelse af direktiver i Det europæiske Fælles skab, og derfor er min første opfordring til de ansvar lige: lav dette direktiv om til en forordning, som har umiddelbar retskraft i medlemsstaterne.
We are all aware of the problems involved in getting directives implemented by the Member States of the European Com munity, which is why I would like first of all to appeal to those responsible to change the directive into a regulation, to make it immediately binding in the Member States.
Men jeg vil sige, at denne harme kun virkelig er troværdig, hvis.man ikke dermed prøver at unddrage sig ansvaret for fortidens forsømmelser.
My personal view is that this sense of indignation is only really credible if it is not used as a front for get ting out of past failings.
Lad os tage medlemsstaterne. De er med rette forargede.
Let us take a look at the Member States, who are rightly up in arms.
Men jeg finder det forargende, at medlemsstaterne i Det europæiske Fællesskab er i stand til år for år at kontrollere borgerne ved grænserne for at se, om de har 200 cigaretter for meget i bagagen, samtidig med at det ikke kan lykkes de samme medlemsstater at bringe en firmamafias affaldstransport på tværs af grænserne under kontrol.
For my part, I am up in arms at the fact that the Member States of the European Community are quite capable of checking millions of people every year at national borders to see whether they happen to have 200 cigarettes too many in their possession, but that the very same Member States are incapable of keeping a check
Også Kommissionen er med rette forarget.
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Jeg må sige dr. Narjes, jeg fik for nogle uger siden næsten tårer i øjnene, da Kommissionen offentliggjorde en udtalelse om, at den ingen kompetence havde i dette spørgsmål.
The existing directive on toxic and dangerous waste of 20 March 1978 is not sufficient, and we must give some thought too to how we can strengthen the monitoring and checks on the transfrontier disposal of dangerous waste within the Community — a proposal dating from 10 January this year.
Vi har ikke brug for en Kommission, som over for offentligheden til stadighed beklager sin manglende kompetence, vi har brug for en Kommission, som målbevidst kæmper for at erhverve sig kompetence på områder, som for medlemmer af dette Fællesskab er livsvigtige.
So far, the control element has always ended at the national borders, where all that is done is the usual processing for customs purposes by references to customs declarations which the customs officials cannot check in any case.
Min anden opfordring går ud på ikke at begrænse kontrollen til at omfatte affald alene, men udvid kontrollen og registreringen ved grænserne til alle figtige og farlige stoffer, således at vi virkelig ved, hvad der til daglig strømmer hen over vore grænser.
My second appeal is for the system of checks to be extended from just waste materials to all toxic and hazardous substances crossing borders to enable us to know for sure what is actually crossing our borders in a daily stream.
Min tredje opfordring er: fritag ikke virksomhederne for de hårde regler om oplysningspligt for så vidt angår deponeringen af de af dem producerede og transporterede stoffer.
My third appeal is not to release com panies from their strict obligation to provide information on the whereabouts of materials produced and transported by them.
I den sammenhæng finder jeg det rigtigt og vigtigt, at ejeren af et fransk affald stransportfirma sidder fængslet i Frankrig, indtil han ønsker at vidne.
I should like to say on this point that it is, in my opinion, right and proper and important that a French waste disposal merchant should be currently in coercive detention in France.
Men samtidig betragter jeg det som noget svineri, at topfolkene i ledelsesetagen hos Hoffmann-La Roche kan slippe ustraffede fra denne skandale!
But I also think it an absolute disgrace that the string-pullers in the Board of Directors of Hoffmann-La Roche should be getting away scot-free.
Og til sidst vil jeg gerne rette en særlig opfordring til de i Rådet repræsenterede regeringer. Vent ikke til vi får en europæisk ordning, det kan tage måneder, men indfør foranstaltninger med øjeblik kelig virkning, nedsæt antallet af grænseovergange, hvor giftigt affald og giftige materialer kan passere, så vi allerede fra i morgen kan vide, hvad affaldstransportvirksomhederne transporterer over vore grænser.
Finally, I should like to address a special appeal to the Member States' govern ments in the Council not to wait for month after month until wc get a European solution, but to take immediate steps and cut down the number of border crossings at which poisonous waste and substances are cleared for customs purposes, so that we can know from tomorrow on what the waste disposal firms are actually transporting over our national borders.
Til sidst vil jeg sige, at det naturligvis er rigtigt, at vi må minde om det ansvar, der påhviler samvittighedsløse affaldstransportvirksomheder.
Finally, I should like to say that it is of course right and proper that we should be drawing attention to the responsibility borne by the unscrupulous type of waste disposal firm.
Men for fremtiden er det dog vigtigere at minde om ansvaret hos dem, som i årevis har set på disse firmaers virksomhed uden at foretage sig noget.
For the future, though, it is more important to remind ourselves of the responsibility borne by those who, for years, have watched what these firms have been up to and not raised a finger.
Til Rådet og dets formand, og dermed mener jeg hr. Genscher, vil jeg sige: De har to gange givet urigtige svar på kritiske spørgsmål fra parlamentsmedlemmer om Seveso-sagen.
What we need is some regulation which will provide proof of how this waste has been disposed of — before it is actually disposed of and not afterwards.
De har bidraget til at lulle den europæiske offentlighed ind i en falsk tryghed sfornemmelse.
Nor will it do just to come up with legally endorsed certificates certifying only what the person in question is prepared to admit to, and whose content cannot be properly checked.
Jeg vil hertil sige, at i ethvert nationalt parlament skal en ansvarlig minister drage konsekvenserne, hvis han har givet fejlinformationer i Parlamentet.
We must also ensure that declarations including a confidentiality clause are denied any legal force.
Hvis bestræbelserne for en mere sikker fjernelse af affald på tværs af grænserne havde været så stor i fortiden, som ophidselsen er i dag, så ville vi ikke i dag have problemerne med Seveso.
And, after all, what is the point of keeping a check on waste dumps if no check is kept on the transport companies themselves?
Alber (PPE). — (DE) Fru formand, mine damer og herrer. Spørgsmålet om, hvor de 41 tønder med Seveso-giften er blevet af minder mig om min skoletid, hvor vi stillede hinanden uløselige spørgsmål.
Mr Alber (PPE). — (DE) Madam President, ladies and gentlemen, the question of what has happened to the 41 drums of toxic waste from Seveso reminds me of my schooldays, when we used to ask each other unanswerable questions.
Et, som jeg dengang ikke kunne besvare lød: hvad er hvor, når intet er nogen steder?
I remember that one of the questions I could never answer was: What is where if nothing is nowhere?
Men desværre er sagen alt for alvorlig.
Unfortunately, though, the question facing us today is far more serious.
Det drejer sig her ganske enkelt om en førsterangsskandale.
What we have here, quite simply, is a scandal of the very first water.
Det er ikke blot et spørgsmål om, hvor giften nu er blevet af.
The question is not just what has happened to the stuff.
Jeg spørger også mig selv, hvad de pågældende firmaer egentlig har tænkt sig, og jeg spørger især mig selv også, hvor er ansvarsfølelsen hos de pågældende firmaer — og desværre også hos nogle statslige institutioner i de hidtil involverede lande blevet af.
What I am wondering is what has become of the common sense of the firms involved, and in particular, what has become of the sense of responsibility of the companies concerned and, unfortunately, a number of government institutions too in the countries which have so far been involved in the matter.
Årligt har vi inden for De europæiske Fællesskaber 160 mio
What we need is encouragement for the use of suitable incineration plants and not an increase in the practice of dumping waste in the ground or even sinking it at sea.
Alber nale suverænitetsspørgsmål. Her drejer det sig blot om opfyldelsen af en pligt til forsorg og beskyttelse over for den europæiske borger.
Alber simply government's obligation to protect and care for the people of Europe.
Dette viser allerede, at der er noget, der ikke er i orden. I øvrigt findes der kun egnede depoter til halvdelen af dette affald.
Where has the dioxin taken from the reactor of the Icmesa factory, which caused one of the most serious ecological disasters in history, ended up?
Det viser endnu tydeligere, at der er tale om en skandale over hele linjen.
Above all, how was this dioxin treated?
Det hidtidige direktiv om giftigt og farligt affald af 20. marts 1978 er ikke tilstrækkeligt, og vi må over veje, hvorledes vi også kan skærpe det foreslåede direktiv om overvågning og kontrol med bortskaffelse på tværs af grænserne af farligt affald i Det europæiske Fællesskab — et udkast af 10. januar i år. Hidtil er kontrollen ophørt ved de nationale grænser.
The problem of wastes contaminated by dioxin has already been discussed in this Parliament as a result of an oral question to the Council; but the Council knew nothing about it or gave the impression of wanting to allow the dioxin to continue its journey through Europe undisturbed — a causal journey which gave us the impression that, at least for dioxin, frontiers had been finally abolished.
Der afvikles kun toldbehandlingsprocedurer og de dertil hørende tolddeklarationer, hvis indhold tolderen alligevel ikke kan kontrollere.
The mysterious journey caused an explosion of con cern and justified indignation throughout Europe, expressed through the representatives of the European people.
Gauthier (DEP). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, da ulykken i Seveso skete den 10. juli 1976, blev hele verden forfærdet. Aviser, radioer, fjernsyn, alle mulige humanitære organisationer, alle var enige om, at denne ulykke var frygtelig og ufattelig.
Mr Gauthier (DEP). — (FR) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, when the Seveso tragedy occurred on 10 July 1976, the whole world was upset by it.
En sådan ulykke måtte i alle tilfælde aldrig ske igen, eftersom konsekvenserne som bekendt var katastrofale.
Whatever be the case, such an incident should never again occur because, as we know, the effects were catastrophic.
Døde, forgiftede, forbrændte, kontaminerede mennesker, gravide kvinder, der var bange for, hvad fremtiden ville bringe, børn født senere med alle slags handicap, ubodelig skade på afgrøder, og — hvad der var endnu værre — uforudsigelige konsekvenser på længere sigt.
People died, others were suffocated, burnt or contaminated; pregnant women worried about their unborn children who were subsequently born with various defects, crops were relentlessly destroyed and, even worse, the long-term consequences were incalculable.
Og hele denne velvilligt indstillede verden lovede, højt og helligt at en sådan ulykke aldrig nogen sinde ville ske igen, og at enhver ville gøre alt for at undgå en lignende katastrofe, og tiden gjorde resten.
All wellintentioned people swore that such an event was never again to occur and that everyone would do all that is necessary to prevent a similar catastrophe.
Hvad skal der gøres?
Neglect set in.
Hvis man ikke betingelsesløst kan overveje et forbud mod fremstilling af sådanne meget giftige stoffer, så ville det da være en overvejelse værd at indføre obligatoriske tilladelser.
Certainly with the help of those who caused the tragic event — dioxin manufacturers — and in whose interest it was, of course, to hush up the matter after having hushed up the inhabitants of Seveso, life went on again as usual.
Vi har brug for en bestemmelse, som kræver fuld dokumentation for bortskaffelsen af dette affald, og vel at mærke før bortskaffelsen og ikke først bagefter.
Taking advantage of the situation, these very manufacturers, namely, Hoffman-La-Roche, Mannesmann, Valiers and Pelidec, among others, assisted by thoughtless transporters, deceived the public by taking enormous risks.
Det er heller ikke nok blot at fremlægge notariale attester, hvori kun det bekræftes, som man selv angiver, og hvis indhold man overhovedet ikke kan efterprøve.
The Commission and the Member States concerned must provide guarantees, with the precision which only documentary evidence can provide, on the journey and the ultimate destination of the dioxin.