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Det synes jeg er et rimeligt forslag. Vi bør prøve at få flest mulige oplysninger ud af Kommissionen, mens vi er her. Hvis De er enig, vil jeg gerne spørge Kommissionen: Hvad er situationen for eksempel med hensyn til enkeltlande?
At all events, I have my doubts about this interpretation, I have been at pains to state this clearly, in a completely dispassionate way.
Er det nu rigtigt eller forkert, for jeg mener, at det er vigtigt for os at vide, om vi behandler dette spørgsmål?
If I am not mistaken, the compromise texts concern the motions contained in the Marck report and the Woltjer report on milk, not on prices.
Hvis det kan godtages af Parlamentet, vil jeg foreslå det som den mest effektive model, hr. formand.
President. — Mr de la Malène, I repeat that the prop osal I have made, which I took over from the Chairman of the Committee on Agriculture, in no way prejudices the rights of this Parliament.
Formanden. — I øjeblikket drøfter vi kun det spørgsmål, om vi skal afbryde forhandlingerne i en time, eller vi ikke skal afbryde forhandlingerne.
I am not in a position to say anything about these amendments, since I have not seen them ; all I propose is that a new timelimit for tabling amendments be fixed for 3 p.m.
(Anmodningen af Barbi blev imødekommet)
That is all I have to propose with regard to these two reports, and I think that this procedure is in complete conformity with the Rules.
(Mødet udsat kl. 9.50 og genoptaget kl. 11.35) vere deres indlæg, give udtryk for deres synspunkter eller stille ændringsforslag.
The motion for a resolution is now going to focus the debate on this text, and this, in my view, is very serious, since it uses the decision on milk quotas virtually as the basis for seeking to secure the reform of the CAP.
Det blev vedtaget af et ret stort flertal på, hvad De vil kunne forstå var et ret vanskeligt og hastigt udvalgsmøde.
It appears to me that we are taking a heavy political responsibility upon ourselves, and Parliament cannot go back on its decision : it should debate the substance of the Commission's proposals.
Jeg håber, at Parlamentet kan godkende denne løsning.
This is, of course, a political viewpoint, but I stand by it.
FORSÆDE: PIETER DANKERT Formand
(Parliament adopted the President's proposal)
Formanden. — Jeg tror, at drøftelserne er mundet ud i visse konklusioner.
After a long dialogue with Mr de la Malène, you do not give the floor to others.
Jeg vil først give ordet til landbrugsudvalgets formand, hr. Curry, som vil give os meddelelse om de vedtagne forslag.
Mr Prout (ED). — Mr President, last month this House voted on the Spinelli report. We asked for more powers, but do we really deserve them if we are not prepared to exercise the powers we already have ?
Jeg gentager, at den procedure, De har forestillet Dem, vedrører hr. Woltjers betænkning om priser og hans betænkning om mælk og hr. Mareks betænkning om monetære udligningsbeløb.
According to the Court of Justice, if the Commission or the Council make changes of substance in those proposals after Parliament has delivered its opinion, then Parliament has thé right, if it chooses to exercise it, to be reconsulted.
For de andre betænkningers vedkommende bliver proceduren som sædvanlig.
The procedure recommended by the Committee on Agriculture throws that right away.
Der sker ingen ændringer.
Yet we refuse to exercise it.
Curry (ED), formand for landbrugsudvalget. — (EN) Hr. formand, udvalget trådte sammen og besluttede en række ting.
President. — You have the floor, Mr Vitale.
Det er et hundredeogsyttende bevis på, hvor påtrængende nødvendig en reform af forholdet mellem vore to institutioner er, og hvor velbegrundet vort forslag til en ny traktat er.
Whether these formal realities and the political realities coincide is a another matter ; I can only try to solve the formal problems.
Vi overvejede så, hvad vi skulle gøre med de tre hovedbetænkninger — hr. Woltjers betænkning om priser, hr. Woltjers betænkning om mælk og hr. Mareks betænkning om monetære udligningsbeløb.
Mr Prout (ED). — Mr President, this is not a political problem.
Derfor vil Parlamentet, når det stemmer om forordningerne, afgive sin udtalelse på grundlag af de eksisterende forslag.
We may not choose to exercise them, but it is important that this house know that we have them.
Men vi vil ikke spilde tiden med dette institutionelle aspekt, netop fordi vi altid har betragtet det som et instrument, rigtignok et vigtigt og afgørende instrument, men altså kun som et instrument til at få fællesskabslivet til at fungere effektivt.
Mr Vitale (COM). — (IT) President, we accept the Curry proposal, because this is the only thing we can do at this moment.
Med rette sagde hr. Thorn for, at efter at man gang på gang har konstateret, at Rådet ikke har kunnet tage sig sammen til at træffe en beslutning, må vi i dag notere, at Rådet omsider er nået frem til en beslutning.
But there is a problem which is not simply a procedural, but a political one : the dates for Parliament's partsessions have been published for many months, but the Commission and the Council have not taken the slightest notice.
Derfor vil vi straks gå over til landbrugsspørgsmålet og udtrykke vor tilfredhed med, at Rådet har fundet en første vej til enighed ved at fjerne en af de hindringer — desværre ikke den eneste — der stiller sig i vejen for et raskere fremskridt for vort Fællesskab.
I formally propose that our acceptance of this emergency procedure, which raises both political and institutional problems, should be accompanied by an official letter of protest from Parliament to the Council to make it recognize in this incident a further proof of the need for ordering institutional relations which we voted at the last part-session. This is the additional proposal I wanted to make.
Det blev understreget, at dette ikke skulle forhindre andre medlemmer, som selv ønskede at komme med kompromistekster i Parlamentet, i at gøre det, og jeg forstår på Dem, at disse bør indgives inden kl. 15 for at give mulighed for, at det normale oversættelsesarbejde kan finde sted.
May we assume that voting on these reports will not now take place today but rather that the debate, even though the President-in-office of the Council is unlikely to be taking the floor, will stretch beyond 5 p.m. ? Or do we take it that voting will take place at 5 p.m. today ?
At den fælles landbrugspolitik må korrigeres og perfektioneres, at den automatiske forøgelse af land brugsudgiften må revideres, og at selve den samlede udgift bør begrænses, har vi altid hævdet og været enige om.
Mr Pranchère (COM). — (FR) Mr President, I consider that this discussion goes to the heart of the matter, since the Council of Ministers has taken deci sions without the Parliament even being given the opportunity to state its opinion which I find thoroughly regrettable.
Det bør fremhæves, at hr. Woltjer og hr. Marck fore lægger deres tekster som en form for kollektivt, privat initiativ for at give Parlamentet lejlighed til at tage højde for den ændrede situation, som vi har redegjort for i formiddags.
If we choose today to follow the procedure, the rule according to which Parliament has to be consulted on whether or not it approves compromise amendments then — and you have acknowledged this — we shall be exercising a right of Parliament.
Udvalget mener, at vi ved at give Parlamentet mulighed for at vedtage en kort, stærkt forkastet tekst, som tager højde for det, der er sket i Rådet, både kan opfylde vor forfatningsmæssige funktion og prøve at gøre vor debat mere relevant i relation til den ændrede situation. Men det vil ske uden at krænke nogens ret her i Parlamentet til enten at afle
This is the point that I should like to stress, since it is clear that the motion for a resolution adopted by a majority vote as a replacement for the one stemming from the Woltjer report on milk is a motion which is not only based on an agreement by the Council but actually goes further than that, since an agreement which is subordinate to an agreement
Over for dem, der klager over, at den fælles land brugspolitik koster for meget, har vi altid kraftigt og med overbevisning påpeget, hvor meget det ville koste at »gennationalisere« den.
President. — Theoretically we shall be voting at 5 p.m., but I can offer no absolute guarantee, since we have to finish the debate. We shall, however, do our best to keep to this arrangement.
Vi vil fremhæve et andet positivt tegn, som også hr. Thorn mindede om før.
Mr Eyraud (S). — (FR) Mr President, another problem arises.
Det betyder, hr. formand, at Parla­mentet ikke skal og ikke længere kan udtale sig om Kommissionens forslag, men at det skal udtale sig om Rådets aftale. Det er genstanden for disse to kompro­misændringsforslag.
tive MCAs find it easier to export to countries with negative MCAs because they are automatically at a major advantage.
Vi skifter principielt tekst, vi opgiver Kommissionens tekst for at tage Rådets tekst op, og har vi ikke længere ret til at stille ændrings­forslag til.
Negotiating margins of 6 to 10% are a substantial argument in markets where the haggling and competition pivot on a few percentage points.
Jeg henleder alvorligt Deres opmærk­somhed på det ansvar, som vi ville pådrage os, hvis vi berøvede landbrugets forsvarere deres ret til at stille ændringsforslag i denne sag — selv om de kun var et mindretal.
Where such advantages have been held on to for ten years, they have a lasting effect and cause lasting distortions of the market which are difficult to eliminate.
Vi høres om Kommissionens tekst, vi høres ikke om en aftale i Rådet. Hvad mere er, hvis man principielt ændrede tekst en, ville vi ikke have nogen ret til at stille ændringsforslag.
I should also like to point out that the Court of Auditors has referred in various reports to the numerous cases of fraud due to the existence of MCAs.
Formanden. —­ Hr. de la Malene, jeg tror, der er tale om en misforståelse.
But we feel that we can begin this debate in the proper manner because the basic data are known and also because the various proposions have already been discussed and considered in the Committee on Agriculture.
Vi følger altså i dette tilfælde den i trakta­terne fastsatte procedure.
This brings us to the decisions the Council has just taken.
Formanden. — Jeg begik en lille fejl for lidt siden, for jeg var ikke rigtigt underrettet.
What are the points on which we are agreed ? Firstly, the MCA system must be a temporary one.
Jeg oplyste, at der var tre betænkninger til behandling under denne særlige procedure.
When the first MCAs were introduced in 1969 after the devaluation of the French Franc and the revaluation of the German Mark, the idea was to protect the system of common farm prices against the immediate consequences for a very short period.
Det drejer sig om betænkningen om mælk og om betænkningen om de monetære udligningsbeløb.
It was a good system as regards both its purpose and the procedure adopted and should therefore have been a temporary measure.
Vi behandler også betænkningen om priserne, men det er ikke problemet i dag, og inden i morgen får vi at se, hvilken procedure der bør følges.
However, this intention was frustrated by a series of unexpected currency fluctuations that always followed the same upward and downward course.
Hvis jeg har forstået det rigtigt, drejer kompromisteksterne sig om de beslutninger, der ledsager i Marck­ og Woltjer­betænkningerne, ikke om priserne, men om mælk.
I should just like to summarize the reasons for this, because they will continue to apply and will also play a part in the position we must adopt on the compromise amendment.
de la Malène (DEP). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne udelukkende henholde mig til proceduren og ikke tage fat på selve sagen, som jeg naturligvis har meget at sige om.
Firstly, the effect of inflation is not a convincing argument for either set of proposals.
Jeg deltog for et øjeblik siden i den forhandling i landbrugsudvalget, som dets udmærkede formand hr. Curry netop har aflagt beretning om.
Secondly, the rôle of the ECU would be very seriously impaired by the Council's system, or German system, as it is known. The rôle of the ECU would be played by the strongest currency, the DM.
Jeg vil gerne sige, at jeg ikke, at min gruppe ikke kan tilslutte sig den fulgte procedure.
I believe this to be one of the major objections to the system proposed by the Council.
Det er tradition i Parlamentet, at beslutningerne undertiden medfører ændringsforslag, som erstatter den oprindelige beslutning.
The second point on which we are agreed is that a procedure must be developed for dismantling the MCAs as quickly as possible.
Når man her taler om et kompromisændringsforslag, bruger man i realiteten denne procedure, og da fristen for at stille ændrings­forslag er udløbet, er det tilstrækkeligt, at flertallet her i Parlamentet erklærer sig enigt i denne proce­dure, for at gøre det muligt igen at fastsætte en ny frist for at stille ændringsforslag.
An ad hoc arrangement must be found for the present MCAs, and for future MCAs there must be an automatic device that is triggered off as soon as new ones are created. This argument is based on the realistic expectation that stability in the currency markets is still along way off.
Det er alt, hvad jeg foreslår, for så vidt angår disse to betænkninger, og jeg tror, at denne procedure er helt i overensstem­melse med forretningsordenen.
In any case, the farmers in the countries concerned must not become the victims of monetary fluctuations, and provision must therefore be made for compensation.
Hr. formand, jeg henleder Deres opmærksomhed på dette punkt, da De er ansvarlig for, at Parlamentet arbejder på rette måde og udøver sine beføjelser.
Thirdly, the Commission's proposal would result in a better spread of the administrative difficulties, whereas the other proposal would place all the burdens, including that of pre-financing, on the shoulders of countries with negative MCAs.
de la Malene (DEP). — (FR) Hr. formand, det står naturligvis fast, at intet er ændret, hvad angår vor ret til at stille ændringsforslag til forordningerne.
The third element on which we agree is that the MCA system is no more than a stop-gap arrangement while the economic and monetary policies remain unharmonized.
I overensstemmelse med traktaterne har vi til opgave inden Rådets møde at afgive en udtalelse om Kommissionens forslag.
On these three points we all agree in the Committee on Agriculture and, I believe, very largely outside this committee.
Kommissionen fortalte os i morges gennem sin formand, hr. Thorn, at den ikke i øjeblikket havde til hensigt at ændre sine forslag, hvad enten det drejer sig om foranstaltninger med hensyn til mælk eller om priser.
And fourthly, the cost to the budget would be far higher : a one-point reduction in the positive German MCAs would reduce annual expenditure by 34.5m ECU, whereas a one-point reduction in the negative French MCAs would increase expenditure by 79m ECU.
Det var underfor­stået, at den måske ville gøre det i morgen, men det er ikke vor sag.
In other words, for each point the two systems differ by 113.5m ECU.
Teoretisk skal vi i overensstemmelse med traktaterne udtale os om Kommissionens tekster.
That is something we must bear in mind, and it is the second and, in my opinion, most serious objection to the proposal which has been put forward to the Council.
Hr. formand, jeg henleder Deres opmærk­somhed på denne formfejl.
The Commission's statistics show that countries with posi
Formanden. — Hr. de la Malene, der er ingen grænser, hvad angår indholdet af ændringsforslagene,
The Council's present proposal would lead to the dismantling of MCAs in a relatively short period, and this is undoubtedly an advantage over a possible conti-
når det drejer sig om en beslutning.
Marck be applied to all oils and fats of Community origin.
Man kan skrive i en beslutning, hvad man vil, på en vis måde. Men i den konstitutionelle procedure drejer det sig især og udelukkende om forordninger.
It is to be charged at 7.5 ECU per 100 kilos of products to which it is applicable, oils and fats of vegetable or animal origin, whether produced in the Community or imported.
Og om dem vil vi stemme som fastsat, med overholdelse af fristen for at stille ændringsforslag, som er udløbet.
It is expected to yield an annual revenue of 600 million ECU.
Der er tale om at fastsætte en ny frist for at stille ændringsforslag til den beslutning, der ledsager disse to betænkninger.
However, in drawing up this report, the Committee on Agriculture has been at pains to emphasize that it is not in favour of taking the easy way out by introducing a new tax instead of tackling the problems of the imbalance prevailing on the market in other oils and fats.
Vi skal selvfølgelig komme med en politisk udtalelse.
nued accumulation of MCAs, with all the disruptions to trade and cases of fraud it might entail.
Men lad den være indeholdt i et beslutningsforslag, som opsummerer en debat om de løbende referater af forhandlingerne i Rådet.
And as there is no prospect of MCAs being dismantled through a change in prices, this proposal is perhaps the only way in which they can be dismantled.
Lad os også spørge Rådet, om det rent faktisk agter at konsultere os på ny.
But the disadvantages remain, and they must be considered.
de la Malène (DEP). — (FR) Hr. formand, undskyld jeg insisterer; det er ikke min stil, men det drejer sig trods alt om et principielt spørgsmål.
Besides the serious disadvantage this proposal would have for the rôle played by the ECU, the financial costs would be particularly high.
Vi ved, at landbrugsverdenen stiller sig visse spørgsmål.
It must be real ized that these financial costs cannot be passed on to agriculture yet again.
Jeg bruger med forsæt modererede udtryk.
They are the consequence of an imperfect monetary policy.
Og så ser jeg, at man gennem en snæver fortolkning, der hverken er intellektuel eller logisk, af forretningsordenen vil kvæle — jeg vejer mine ord — den forhandling, vi kunne få om, hvad der vil blive truffet afgørelse om for Europas landmænd !
Those responsible for the absence of economic and monetary union must search their consciences and take the financial consequences.
Formanden. — Hr. Prout, med hensyn til det, De siger, vil jeg gerne sige, at så vidt jeg ved, forelægges der i overensstemmelse med den normale procedure en del forslag til forordninger for Parlamentet.
Madam President, to take account of the change in the political situation, I shall table a compromise amendment which broadly retains the decisions and objectives of the Committee on Agriculture but adapts them to the changed situation.
Vi skal komme med en udtalelse om disse forordninger, og det er det, vi vil gøre. Hvorvidt disse formelle realiteter og de politiske realiteter er sammenfaldende, er et stort problem.
I hope Parliament will approve this proposal.
Vi vælger måske ikke at udøve dem, men det er vigtigt, at Parlamentet ved, at vi har dem.
It is of the opinion that the tax of 7.5 ECU per 100 kilos is not likely to produce a substantial and lasting improvement in the price ratio between butter and other oils and fats.
Prout (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, i sidste måned stemte Parlamentet om Spinelli-betænkningen. Vi bad om flere beføjelser.
Mr Goerens (L), rapporteur. — (FR) Madam President, the proposal from the Commission to the Council for a regulation introducing a tax on certain oils and fats is part of a general scheme for reform of the common agricultural policy.
Parlamentet har ret til at blive konsulteret vedrørende disse kommissionsforslag.
The introduction of a new tax is bound to attract criticism.
Ifølge Domstolen har Parlamentet, hvis Kommissionen eller Rådet foretager indholdsmæssige ændringer i forslagene, efter at Parlamentet er kommet med sin udtalelse, ret til, hvis det ønsker at gøre brug af den, at blive konsulteret endnu en gang.
In this case, however, what we have is a temporary instrument which, if adopted by the Parliament and the Council, is likely to put the Commission in a substantially stronger position in its negotiations with the main supplier countries.
Pranchère (COM). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg tror, at forhandlingen drejer sig om princippet, for Rådet har truffet afgørelser, endnu inden Parlamentet har kunnet afgive sin udtalelse, hvilket forekommer aldeles beklageligt. Hvis vi i dag følger proceduren, idet forretningsordenen fastsætter, at Parlamentet skal høres om, hvorvidt det tiltræder eller ikke tiltræder kompromisændringsforslagene — og det har De erkendt — så udøver vi altså en af Parlamentets rettigheder.
This was already made clear in document COM (83) 500 (final), in the following terms : if the Community strengthens its action by introducing a supplementary levy in the milk sector, thereby making provision for internal control of butter production, it should complete its action aimed at restoring balance on the market in oils and fats by applying a non-discriminatory internal tax to consumption of oils and fats other than butter, of whatever origin.
Men beslutningsforslaget vil nu være bindende for forhandlingen, hvilket ud fra mit synspunkt er meget kedeligt.
Such a tax is in conformity with the Community's international commit ments.
Idet dette forslag går ud fra afgørelsen om mælkekvotaerne, sigter det faktisk i praksis på at opnå en reform af den fælles landbrugspolitik.
While subscribing to the objective enunciated in the proposal for a regulation discussed in this report the European Parliament's Committee on Agri culture wishes to make the following comments.
Vi påtager os, forekommer det mig, et alvorligt ansvar på det politiske plan, og Parlamentet kan ikke skifte mening; det må gå i gang med til bunds at forhandle om Kommissionens forslag.
In conclusion, I should like to stress that this report should provide a basis for finding a more appropriate solution to the problems currently affecting operation of the common agricultural policy.
Der er helt klart tale om et politisk synspunkt, men det forsvarer jeg.
The principle of Community preference is under serious threat.
Formanden. — Jeg foreslår, at der fastsættes en ny frist for at stille kompromisændringsforslag til Woltjer-beslutningsforslaget om mælk og til Marekbeslutningsforslaget om de monetære udligningsbeløb på landbrugsområdet til kl. 15.00.
The motion for a resolution endeavours to establish a lasting solution, one which is fully in conformity with the Community's commitments in regard to trade relations with our main supplier countries.
Vi ved, at Rådet agter at foretage sådanne indholdsmæssige ændringer af forordningerne under henvisning til artikel 149 i traktaten.
The first point that the Committee on Agriculture would like to stress is that the proposal to tax certain oils and fats is not an isolated measure, but reflects the wish of the Commission to distribute fairly the sacrifices necessarily entailed in any reform of the common agricultural policy.
Vi ved, at vi har ret til at blive konsulteret igen vedrørende disse ændringer.
Secondly, I would point out that this proposal conforms fully with the GATT rules.
Og alligevel ønsker vi ikke at udnytte denne ret.
The tax envisaged is a non-discriminatory tax to
kort sigt at sikre den fælles landbrugsprisordning mod de umiddelbare følger heraf.
In the Committee on Agriculture we have not yet in fact discussed this at any great length.
Vi er alle enige om, tror jeg, at ordningen med de monetære udligningsbeløb skal være af midlertidig karakter, og at disse monetære udligningsbeløb må afvikles i forbindelse med den første revision, den første prisrevision.
What we have done is to say that a number of smaller farms must certainly be given greater latitude.
Ordningen var god, både hvad angår hensigten og proceduren, og måtte derfor bevares som en midlertidig foranstaltning. Denne hensigt blev der imidlertid lagt hindringer i vejen for gennem en følgende række uventede valutasvingninger, som hele tiden gik i samme op- og nedadgående retning.
The Commission, and now the Council, has made 600 000 tonnes available for this purpose, and it might be said that they have complied with our proposals in this respect.