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Forslag til beslutning af Roudy (dok.
Adoption of the resolution
Forslag til beslutning af Alber (dok. 1-593/ 80): Uganda:
Votes • Wawrzik report (Doc.
Indlæg til forretningsordenen : Pannella
Debates of the European Parliament
Forordning om levering af fødevarehjælp. — Betænkning af Rabbethge (udvalget for ud vikling og samarbejde) (dok. 1-551/80):
Regulation on the supply of food aid — Report by Mrs Rabbethge (Committee on Development and Cooperation) (Doc. 1-551/ 80):
Forslag til beslutning af Glinne m.fl. (dok! 1-607/80): Folkeafstemningen i Uruguay: forretningsordenen :
Mr Pearce; Mr Vemimmen; Mr Bangemann; Mr Pannella; Mr Pearce; Mr Bangemann; Mr Scott-Hopkins; Mr Pearce; Mr Oehler; Mrs Kellett-Bowman; Mr Cohen; Mrs Rabbethge
Indlæg til Vernimmen
Adoption of the resolution
Generelle toldpræferencer. — Betænkning af Pearce (udvalget for udvikling og samarbejde) (dok. 1-445/80):
The Community's generalized tariff prefer ences — Report by Mr Pearce (Committee on Development and Cooperation) (Doc. 1-545/ 80):
Behandling af forslaget til beslutning:
Procedural motions: Mr Tolman; Mr Hord; Mr Aigner; Mr Clinton
Behandling af forslaget til beslutning:
Procedural motion: Mr de Courcy Ling; Mr Martin
Indlæg til forretningsordenen : Pearce
Mr Tolman; Mr Curry; Mr Martin; Mrs Martin; Mr Remilly
Vedtagelse af forslaget til beslutning
Procedural motion: Mr Pearce Adoption of the resolution
Indlæg til forretningsordenen: Ling, Maurice Martin
Mr Muntingh; Mr Welsh (Committee on External Economic Relations); Mr Maher; Mr De Keersmaeker; Mr Newton Dunn (Committee on Budgets); Mr Gundelach (Commission)
Direktiv om containersikkerhed. — Betænk ning af Key (transportudvalget) (dok. 1-556/ 80):
Directive on the safety of containers — Report, without debate, by Mr Key (Committee on Transport) (Doc. 1-556/80):
Vedtagelse afiforslaget til beslutn ing
Adoption of the resolution
Tid og sted for næste mødeperiode:
Dates of the next partsession :
Vedtagelse af forslaget til beslutning
Adoption of the resolution Procedural motion: Mr Pannella
Afbryde/se af sessionen
Adjournment of the session
Europa­Parlamentets forhandlinger
IN THE CHAIR: SIR BASIL DE FERRANTI
Jeg foreslår Parlamentet, at disse to forslag til beslut­ning sættes under afstemning under ét.
Since no Member has asked leave to speak and no amendments have been tabled to them, I declare these proposals approved by the European Parliament.
(Mødet åbnet kl. 9.05)
(The sitting opened at 9.05 a.m.)
Formanden. —­ Mødet er åbnet.
President. — The sitting is open.
■ Protokollen fra mødet i går er omdelt.
— the motion for a resolution by Mr De Pasquale and others (Doc.
Protokollen er godkendt.
The minutes of proceedings are approved.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er afgø­relser om anmodninger om uopsættelig forhandling.
I suggest that, with your approval, we hold a single vote on these two motions.
Formanden. — Jeg har modtaget et andragende; dets titel samt andragernes navne findes i protokollen fra dette møde.
President. — I have received one petition, the details of which you will find in the minutes of this sitting.
Formanden. — Jeg har modtaget forskellige doku­menter; en liste herover findes i protokollen fra dette møde.
President. — Details of the documents I have received may be found in the minutes of this sitting.
Formanden. — På'sit møde den 20. november 1980 har præsidiet prøvet mandatet for hr. Geronimi.
President. — At its meeting of 20 November 1980, the Bureau verified the credentials of Mr Geronimi Under Rule 3(1) of the Rules of Procedure, the Bureau established that this appointment complies with the provisions of the Treaties.
(Bifald fra den europæiske demokratiske gruppe)
Are there any objections?
Hvis ingen gør indsigelse, betragter jeg det som godkendt.
The appointment is ratified.
Det er ikke et angreb på Luxembourg.
Debates of the European Parliament
Det er end ikke en anmodning til fordel for Strasbourg, hvor skøn Strasbourg end måtte være.
Mr Enright. — Mr President, this is certainly not based on agreements with the various groups, because, as you will see from my resolution, I have specifically not gone through the groups.
Det er en anmod­ning om at høre almindelige medlemmer i stedet for en mafia, der som en anonym gruppe i det udvidede præsidium forelægger aftaler, der udformes mellem de politiske grupper.
This is a motion signed by a number of back-benchers who are fed up to the back teeth with having decisions handed down to them from on high, just as Mpses handed down the tablets of stone.
(Bifald fra den europæiske demokratiske gruppe)
(Applause from the European Democratic Group)
Formanden. — I mandags meddelte jeg titlerne på de forslag fra Kommissionen, som var foreslået behandlet efter den i forretningsordenen artikel 27 a nævnte procedure uden afgivelse af betænkning.
That, after all, is the problem. We cannot treat as urgent in the Assembly a matter which may not really have been intended as an attack on Luxembourg but which cannot avoid being interpreted in that way.
Da ingen medlemmer har anmodet om ordet, og der ikke er stillet ændringsforslag, erklærer jeg disse forslag for tiltrådt af Europa­Parlamentet.
I would like to add, Mr President, that when I say something in the Bureau it is always after ascertaining whether the majority in my Group endorses it.
For hvis vi får at vide, at det i praksis måske ikke vil ske, så har vi i det mindste fået en vis kontrol over vore egne sager.
It is a plea for some degree of consultatipn with back bench Members, instead of the Mafia cocooned in anonymity that we have in the enlarged Bureau, with agreements being forged between the political groups.
Formanden. — Jeg tror jeg som formand bør tage Deres henvisning til mafiaen med et vist forbehold, inden det opføres i protokollen.
President. — I call Mr Klepsch.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordnen er afgø­relse om anmodninger om afstemning snarest muligt om to forslag til beslutning (dok.
In practice, Mr President, it may be quite impossible to do what I ask, but I urge this House to vote for the motion; for then, even if we are told that in practice it may not happen, at least we shall have taken some control over our own affairs.
1­614/80 og 1­617/ 80): Fiskeriproblemer i Middelhavet.
(Applause from the European Democratic Group)
Mødet fredag den 21. november 1980
You must address your remarks to the
Jeg vil for det første sige, hr. formand, at jeg finder det uacceptabelt, — og det begyndte allerede i går under drøftelsen om uopsættelig forhandling — at medlemmer af de forskellige grupper i plenum drøfter, hvad de skulle have drøftet på deres gruppemøde. Det finder jeg ikke passende i dette Parlament.
Mr Klepsch. — .. .1 would first like to say, Mr President, that I find it intolerable — and this was already happening yesterday during the debate on urgent procedure — for members of different groups to hold discussions in this Assembly that they ought to have had in their own group meetings.
Enhver kender fordelingen af mødestederne for Parlamentets møder.
It is not the Assembly's function to make up for any lack of coordination in the groups whose members have signed this paper.
Ethvert medlem har fået en meddelelse herom, og dette dannede også grundlag for en aftale med vort personale.
A matter can be urgent for the full Assembly only if the Assembly itself or the Bureau has failed in some way.
Da det altså drejer sig om en afgørelse truffet af det ansvarlige organ i dette Parlament, og som i øvrigt ikke først blev truffet i går men længe har været gældende, har jeg svært ved at forstå, at denne anmodning — selv om den formelt bør kunne tillades — skal tillades; jeg finder det fuldstændigt uansvarligt at opfordre plenum til at træffe en afgørelse, som forslagstillerne allerede nu ved — selv om den blev vedtaget — ikke ville kunne gennemføres.
Every Member has received a communication, which was also the basis of an agreement with our staff. Since, therefore, we are dealing with a decision taken by the Parliamentary body made responsible for the matter — and one that was not taken yesterday but has been in effect for some considerable time — I find it difficult to under stand how this motion, even though it may be admissible in the formal sense, has been allowed.
Denne måde at iværksætte parlamentariske beslutninger på, er efter min opfattelse egentlig ikke dette Parlament værdigt.
In my view, it is completely irresponsible to ask the Assembly to
Noget kan vel kun være presserende for plenarforsamlingen, når plenarforsamlingen selv eller præsidiet på en eller anden måde har svigtet.
adopt a resolution when the proposers of the motion already know that, if it were passed, it could not be put into effect.
Hvis formand skabet her har svigtet — skønt det, som min kollega hr. Arndt netop har bekræftet, ikke en gang er tilfældet — skulle kollegerne i deres gruppe sørge for, at det går demokratisk til i stedet for at lade plenum beskæftige sig med det spørgsmål.
This way of promoting parliamentary decisions — at least in my opinion — really does not befit this House.
Jeg vil gerne slutte.
I shall now conclude.
Jeg har forstået begrundelsen således, at ordføreren ville give udtryk for sin og andre gruppemedlemmers harme over beslutninger, der er truffet af det ansvarlige organ i Parlamentet.
It is my understanding that the Member making the explanatory statement wished to express his indignation and that of some other members of his Group at the decisions taken by the appropriate bodies of the House.
Det er gudskelov ikke nødvendigt i min gruppe.
In my Group, thank the Lord, that is not necessary.
Jeg er altid i den lykkelige situation at kunne tale på grundlag af beslutninger truffet i min gruppe.
I am always in the fortunate position of being able to speak on the basis of decisions taken by my Group.
(Munterhed—
(Laughter.
Vi har anvendt en fornuftig fremgangsmåde for at løse spørgsmålet om mødesteder.
Unless my memory plays me false, the deci­sion to meet in Luxembourg in December was announced to this House in June of this year.
Hvis vi fortsætter på denne måde, så vil vi give indtryk af, at dette Parlament selv ikke tager det, som det i går vedtog med stort flertal, og som alle grupperne tilsluttede sig, alvorligt og som en lille dreng hopper fra sten til sten og ikke er i stand til virkelig at løse et af de vigtigste problemer vedrørende vor egen organisation.
That seems quite a long time ago, and if the honourable Member feels so strongly about it, I am surprised that he has not brought the matter before this House before now.
Og derfor er min gruppe imod uopsættelig forhandling.
He has had something like 6 months to do so, and has failed to do so.
Ser De, hr. formand, når fru Focke, som i går indtrængende ved den ene afstemning gjorde os opmærksom på, at hele Parlamentet kom ud af kurs, hvis denne beslutning vedtoges skønt ikke engang en tredjedel af hendes gruppe havde stemt sammen med hende, stadig forlanger støtte, er jeg noget forundret!
Look, Mr President, if Mrs Focke, who pointed out to us forcefully yesterday, during a vote, that the whole House would lose face if the motion for a resolution were adopted, although not even a third of her Group voted with her, is looking for applause, too, then I am somewhat surprised.
Jeg må desuden sige, hr. formand, når jeg siger noget i præsidiet, så gør jeg det altid efter at jeg i min gruppe har forvisset mig om at flertallet i min gruppe står bag.
Of course, Mr President, as you know full well, when this decision was announced to the House there was a certain amount pf dissatisfactipn, and I will nPt cpnceal it from the Hpuse that there was a great deal pf dissatisfaction in my own Group; but that was the decision which was taken and the reasons for it were explained to the House.
Hvis det en gang imellem ikke skulle være tilfældet, så finder jeg dette flertal.
They did not like it, but they accepted it as such.
(Munterhed — Bifald fra den liberale og demokratiske gruppe)
Perhaps we were graduating from the law of the jungle to the lex talionis — which is still not very civilized -— but yesterday we undoubtedly made a step forward, and this is why I shall defend that position.
Jeg vil også gå ¡mod uopsættelig forhandling, af tre grunde: For det første må jeg sige hr. Enright, at den interne splittelse i den socialistiske gruppe ikke hører hjemme her.
Therefore, Mr President, whilst I state firmly that I shall be voting against Mr Enright's motion, I must also say that I perfectly understand — because for a year-and-a-half I have been warning the majority of our colleagues along these lines — the creeping state of mind that is increasingly tending to express itself in polemical terms.
Hr. Enright har forklaret, at formandskabet laver dunkle forretninger med andre.
We saw this during the budgetary partsession in Luxembourg, Mr President, with the appointment of certain officials.
I grunden går vi måske fra »jungleloven« til en lov som den, der er baseret på princippet om øje for øje og tand for tand — og som endnu ikke er særlig civiliseret — men i går gjorde vi ubestrideligt et skridt fremad, og det er derfor, at jeg vil forsvare denne holdning.
Planning has gone on around that concept, and it really is capricious of this House at this time to change that the decision, thereby affecting the lives and the abilities of quite a large number of our staff.
Hr. formand, selv om jeg derfor med overbevisning erklærer, at jeg vil stemme imod Enrights forslag, så må jeg også sige, at jeg fuldt ud — eftersom jeg i halvandet år har tilladt mig at formane flertallet af
But this is a problem of the Rules of Procedure, ladies and gentlemen, because — to take an example — the continual desultory use of Rule 28 does not harm the minority groups that we are as much as it harms all Members of Parliament as such, who find that they are no longer entitled to ask the President of Parliament for the floor but have to ask the chairmen of their groups.
(Råb »hør, hør« — Munterhed)
So if Members accept this, Mr Enright, do not
Altså, hr. Enright, hvis parlamentarikerne accepterer dette, så kom ikke og beklag Dem, hvis de førnævnte så også bliver forretningsordenens og den parlamentariske rets virkelige herrer!
It has not even just come as a request for urgent procedure this part-session; it has arrived as urgent business on the last morning of the part-session, the morning when probably there are fewer people here than usual.
afgørelse blev truffet for er stykke tid siden, og den gruppe, som ikke er blevet nævnt her til formiddag, er personalet.
All we say, in fact, is that we are upset by the taking of legal proceedings against Le Monde and we refer to the high standing it enjoys in our eyes.
Jeg tror, at dette Parlaments personale pålægges en enorm byrde, på grund af den måde hvorpå forholdene tvinger os til at ændre mødested og flytte rundt.
We very often read it. That does not, I would stress, mean that we are voicing any political judgement on the matter; we are simply moved at the fact that this should have happened.
En stor del af denne institutions personale har nu i nogle måneder kunnet sige til deres familier, at decembermødet ville blive holdt i Luxembourg.
And we instruct our President to express those feelings and also the wish that, throughout Europe and the world, the freedom of the press should be not only legally protected but politically supported and understood as an essential constituent of democracy.
Planlægningen har foregået på det grundlag, og det er meget lunefuldt af Parlamentet på dette tidspunkt at ændre denne afgørelse og således påvirke et en stor del af dette personales levevilkår.
The final point I would like to make is this: Mr Enright has said that even if we pass this motion it may not be possible to implement it.
Som mange af os burde vide fra vor egen situation, må man tage nøje hensyn til familieforhold og familiens krav. Dette er, som hr. Scott-Hopkins sagde, et forslag, som kunne have været stillet for mange måneder siden.
I remind the House that the motion states that we resolve to hold the December partsession in Strasbourg. If that motion is passed it binds the House.
Det er end ikke blevet fremsat som en anmodning om uopsættelig forhandling til denne mødeperiode, det er fremkommet som en presserende sag på mødeperiodens sidste formiddag; den formiddag, hvor der sandsynligvis er færre til stede end normalt.
For those reasons, although, as I say, I certainly do not want us to meet in Luxembourg· any more often than we have to, I hope, both for the sake of the staff and for the sake of this House, that we will reject this motion.
Det synes at være længe siden.
President. the vote.
Det sidste, jeg gerne vil sige, er dette: hr. Enright har sagt, at selv om vi vedtog dette forslag, vil det ikke være muligt at gennemføre det.
I therefore feel, Mr President, that we have a duty to register our sensitivity to an event that has caught the attention of world public opinion.
Jeg vil gøre Parlamentet opmærksom på, at det i forslaget til beslutning anføres, at vi skal vedtage at afholde mødeperioden i december i Strasbourg.
I do not think there is any country in the world where what has been happening in France is not reported in the press and on television.
Hvis den afgørelse vedtages, er den bindende for Parlamentet. Hvis vi siger, at vi er villige til at vedtage et handlingsforløb, som vi ved ikke kan lade sig gøre, svækker vi dette Parlament over for dets eget præsidium.
We believe that, sometimes, there is a duty to interfere, but that we are not doing in this particular case; we feel we have simply recorded the feelings — varied and contradictory though they may be — of the whole House.
Jeg mener, at det ville være tåbeligt af dette Parlament at vedtage beslutninger, som sætter det i en sådan situation.
On this subject, Otto Habsburg, if you will allow me to say so, reacts in a different way, but the event has certainly moved him.
Af disse årsager ønsker jeg dog ikke at holde møde i Luxembourg tiere, end jeg er nødt til. Jeg håber, at vi både for personalets og for dette Parlaments skyld vil forkaste dette forslag.
It seems important to him; we have talked about it and we were both moved, each in his own way.
Formanden. — Jeg gør opmærksom på, at i henhold til forretningsordenen henvises forslaget til beslutning, når anmodning om uopsættelig forhandling ikke er imødekommet, til det kompetente udvalg.
I should point out that under the Rules of Procedure if a request for urgent debate is rejected, the motion for a resolution is referred to the appropriate committee.
Enright. — (en.).Af hensyn til Parlamentet tager jeg forslaget til beslutning tilbage, under forudsætning af at alle de undertegnede erklærer sig enige heri.
Mr Enright. — Out of consideration for the House, I withdraw the motion for a resolution provided those who signed it with me agree.
Men på det tidspunkt var det den afgørelse, der blev truffet, og Parlamentet fik forelagt årsagerne hertil. Det synes ikke om dem, men accepterede dem som sådan.
I would add, begging Members' indulgence, that the reason fpr urgent procedure is not that given.
Afgørelsen blev truffet for seks måneder siden, og der er ikke gjort noget før' i det nioghalvtredsindstyvende minut af den ellevte time.
Our feelings should be expressed immediately, there is nothing to be said about past emotion.
Formanden. — Vi går over til forslaget til beslutning af Pannella m.fl. (dok.
President. — We now come to the request on the motion for a resolution by Mr Pannella and others, on the legal proceedings against Le Monde (Doc. 1-616/
Hr. Pannella har ordet.
I call Mr Pannella.
Hr. formand, grunden til at jeg har bedt om at tale imod dette forslag, er ikke, at jeg er for Luxembourg.
Mr Nord. — (NL) Mr President, I would like to speak against urgent debate, because, in our view, this is clearly a matter of a misuse of the urgent procedure itself.
Vi har sandsynligvis færre faciliteter der end andre steder.
In a constitutional state, no one is above the law, not even a newspaper, whatever its excellence and repute.
Mødet fredag den 21. november 1980
Sitting of Friday, 21 November 1980
Pannella. — (fr.) Hr. Nord, har De læst den tekst, det drejer sig om?
Mr Pannella. — (F) Mr Nord, have you read the text in question?
Det har vi i øvrigt givet udtryk for i en pressemeddelelse, der blev offentliggjort efter et møde i vor gruppe, og den ordlyd, vi anvendte, var fast og beslutsom.
In our democracies, the press performs an indispensable rôle as a power in opposition, a legitimate and necessary function of discussion and criticism, without which there is no real democracy.
Capanna, Ruffolo, Ripa di Meana, Wieczorek-Zeul, Fuillct, Jalton, Zagari, Castellina og til Baduel Glorioso fra gruppen af kommunister og beslægtede m.fl., er et forslag til beslutning, som jeg finder yderst moderat.
Mr Glinne. — (F) Mr President, the Socialist Group is most certainly one of the staunch defenders of the freedom of the press wherever it is threatened and we agree, with many others, that the French newspaper involved here is one of the few great providers of fair and democratic information.
Jeg ser gerne, at alle medlemmer virkelig tænker alvorligt over det.
We have already said this in a press-release issued after a meeting held by our Group, and the terms we used were particularly strong and well-argued.
Det betyder ikke, det vil jeg gerne understrege, at vi her tager politisk stilling; vi er blot oprørte over, at det har kunnet ske.
That is why Parliament must vote for this morion tabled by Mr Pannella and several others, worded as it is in very moderate language.
Men vi er ligeledes blevet enige om, at det er på høje tid at træffe foranstaltninger med henblik på at formindske den strøm af forslag, der fremsættes i henhold til artikel 14.
But we also agreed that it was high time to take steps to reduce the flow of motions tabled under Rule 14, and this is why, though convinced about the substance of the matter and having made our opinions public, we shall abstain from voting on this request for urgent debate.
Derfor afholder vi os fra at stemme om anmodningen om uopsættelig forhandling, samtidig med at vi støtter sagen udadtil.
(Applause from certain benches on the left)
Vi forstår hr. Pannellas følelser, vi forstår ligeledes, at han er ved at gå væk fra den begrundelse, han selv har anført.
We understand Mr Pannella's feelings and we understand that he has held himself back in the very reasons he has referred to.
Han vil give udtryk for en følelse, men efter min opfattelse er dette ikke passende, når retssituationen i et land som Frankrig er af en sådan art, at den yder garanti både over for journalister og regeringer, da den franske forfatning indeholder bestemmelse om en fuldstændig adskillelse af den juridiske, udøvende og lovgivende magt.
He wants to register an emotional reaction, but to my mind that is improper when a constitutional state, ih a country like France, by its very nature provides every safeguard both to journalists and to governments, since the French constitution provides for the total separation of legal, executive and legislative powers.
Derfor tror jeg ikke denne følelse er på sin plads.
For that reason, I consider that these feelings are ill-advised.
Vi mener, at man undertiden har pligt til at gribe ind. Vi gør det imidlertid ikke i dette specielle tilfælde, vi mener blot at have givet udtryk for følelser, — endog forskellige og modstridende — i hele Forsamlingen, Jeg vil i denne forbindelse tillade mig at gøre opmærksom på, at Otto Habsburg reagerede på en anden måde, men denne begivenhed har bestemt berørt ham; han finder det vigtigt, vi har talt om det, vi er blevet berørt, hver af os på sin måde.
Mrs Macciocchi. — (I) Mr President, I express my Group's firm support of this motion for a resolution, and I would like to tell those of my colleagues who have defended the spirit pf freedpm for which France has been famous since 1789 and the great French democratic tradition that it is precisely because of our respect for these principles that we have tabled this motion for a resolution today, which demonstrates how we share the feelings that surely are also felt by them.