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Denne støtteordning har til formål for foderstofforbrugeren at bringe prisen for Fælles skabets produkt i niveau med verdensmarkedsprisen.
The purpose of this support is to ensure that the price paid by the users of animal feedstuffs within the Community will be on a par with the prices obtaining on the world market.
Men mindstepris og støtteordning er to elementer inden for den fælles landbrugspolitik, som beregnes i ECU, i europæiske regningsenheder.
Nevertheless, the minimum price and the support in question are both constituents of the common agricultural policy, and are expressed in ECUs.
Derfor må der nødvendigvis omregnes til national valuta ved hjælp af den grønne valuta, som ofte er forskellig fra centralkursen og fra den løbende daglige kurs.
It follows that they have to be converted to national currencies with the aid of the 'green' exchange-rate, which, however, is often different from the central exchange-rate or from the current daily exchangerate.
Skønt vi alle er imod forsyndelser i form af monetære udligningsbeløb, hr. formand, anmoder vi derfor alligevel Parlamentet om at gå ind for en lille midlertidig forsyndelse i praksis, især fordi den ikke koster ret meget.
It seems absurd that we should be discussing this matter twice, and I would request that this matter be dealt with by the Committee on the Rules of Procedure and Petitions and by the Bureau.
Denne situation skaber en forvridning for de handlende medlemsstaterne imellem med det resultat, at slutprisen for forbrugeren under de nuværende vilkår ikke hele tiden i alle medlemsstater er den samme som verdensmarkedsprisen.
This situation creates distortions in transactions between the Member States, owing to the fact that the final price for the user, under present conditions, will not always be on a par with the world market price in all the Member States.
Som følge af at et produkt kan have oprindelse i én medlemsstat og anvendes i en anden medlemsstat, kan priserne for ærter og bønner være forskellige.
The prices for peas and beans in the Member State of origin and in the Member State where they are used may not be the same.
Navnlig for at fjerne og afvikle disse forvridninger og samtidig tage hensyn til disse produkters stadig større betydning foreslår Kommissionen oprettelsen af et elastisk system af valutajusteringer, som har til formål at rette disse skævheder.
Pre cisely in order that such anomalies may be eliminated or reduced, and taking into account the increasing importance of these products, the Commission has proposed the introduction of an elastic system of currency regulation that aims to correct these anomalies.
Kommissionen regner i sit forslag med, at dette vil belaste Fællesskabets budget med 320 mio ECU.
In its proposal the Commission estimated that the cost to the Community budget would amount to 320 million ECUs.
FORSÆDE: MARCEL VANDEWIELE Næstformand
I propose that we do not begin a procedural discussion on that subject now.
Jeg vil gerne takke hr. Newton Dunn, fordi land brugsudvalget på hans opfordring tiltrådte Kommissionens forslag.
I would like to thank Mr Newton Dunn, because his own proposal indicates that the Agricultural Committee has accepted the Commission's proposal.
godkendtes og forslaget til
In this case, the committee shall report back to Parliament within one month or, in exceptional cases, any shorter period decided by Parliament.
(Forslaget til forordning beslutning vedtoges) (')
(Parliament approved the draft regulation and adopted the motion for a resolution)
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er anden betænkning (dok.
President. — The next item is the second report by Mr Tolman, on behalf of the Committee on Agriculture (Doc.
1-95/82) af Tolman for landsbrugsudvalget over forslag fra Kommissionen for De europæiske Fællesskaber til Rådet (dok.
1-95/82), on the proposal from the Commission to the Council (Doc.
1-452/81) til direktiv om fastsættelse af mindstekrav vedrørende beskyttelse af burhøns.
1-452/81) for a directive laying down mini mum standards for the protection of laying hens kept in battery cages.
Fællesskabet lider af mangel på proteiner.
Mr Hord. — Mr President, I rise on a point of order in regard to the Tolman report.
Forbruget i Fællesskabet er ca. 15 mio tons årligt, og næsten det hele importeres færdigbehandlet eller forarbejdes i Fællesskabet af importerede frø.
I wish to advise you that the Tolman report, as you will recall, was debated by this House in December last year, and after the dis
Jeg har blot henledt opmærksomheden på en efter min opfattelse højst utilfredsstillende situation, der kræver en nærmere undersøgelse.
All I have done is to draw attention to what I believe to be a most unsatisfactory situation which, I believe, warrants an enquiry.
Formanden. — Kære kolleger, hr. Hord er meget imødekommende.
President. — Ladies and gentlemen, Mr Hord is very accommodating.
Jeg anmoder udtrykkeligt om, at vi påbegynder forhandlingen.
It is my earnest wish that we begin this debate.
Det er mit forslag.
That is my proposal.
De artikel 85 ikke på noget tidspunkt blev nævnt under debatten, må jeg hævde, at den blev sendt tilbage i henhold til artikel 36, og under disse omstændigheder havde ordføreren ingen myndighed til at udarbejde en ny betænkning.
The increase to 500 cm2will mean enlarging the livingspace of laying hens by about 25% or slightly more, and that is a distinct improvement; but to permit an objective and correct appraisal, I would refer to two disadvantages connected with this proposal.
Jeg mener derfor, at denne betænkning strider imod forretningsordenen.
The Community occupies a strong position in the poultry sector: 1981, for example, was a successful year; exports to third countries were tripled.
Men hvad jeg i øvrigt ønsker at sige, hr. formand, er, at dette er en alvorlig sag. Vi har allerede for meget at bestille.
However, this position will be affected to some extent by the proposed measures, if they are implemented.
Det forekommer absurd, at vi skulle drøfte denne sag to gange, og jeg vil gerne anmode om, at denne sag behandles i udvalget for forretningsor denen og for andragender samt i præsidiet.
Our competitive position will therefore be affected, and that will have an adverse effect on employment, a subject in which we take so much interest.
Woltjer. — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg finder det vigtigt, at præsidiet giver en klar redegørelse for denne procedure med henblik på fremtiden.
Mr Woltjer. — (NL) Mr President, I think it is important for the Bureau to provide a clearer definition of this procedure for future reference.
Det er dog absurd, hvad vi er ved at gøre her i formiddag: vi skal til at gentage noget, som vi allerede har gjort.
What we are doing here this morning is absurd: we are doing something we have already done.
Betænkningen er af en bestemt grund blevet henvist til fornyet udvalgsbehandling.
The report was sent back to committee for a specific reason.
Det problem, der gav anledning hertil, er endnu ikke løst.
The problem that led to this has not been solved.
Parlamentet vil nu under en andenbehandling stemme om ting, der allerede er vedtaget.
Parliament now intends to take a second vote on something that has already been approved.
Vi står nu over for dette problem, fordi ordføreren ikke har forstået sin opgave.
We have this problem because the rapporteur failed to understand what he was instructed to do.
Jeg mener, at præsidiet fremover må undgå sådanne ting.
I believe the Bureau must prevent a recurrence of this in the future.
Formanden. — Jeg beder Dem om ikke at fortsætte dette spørgsmål.
The rapporteur feels that the absolute maximum has been achieved with this proposal.
Den proceduremæssige debat må nu afsluttes.
The Committee on Agriculture approved the proposal by a very large majority.
Jeg anmoder nu Parlamentet om at påbegynde forhandlingen og om at lytte til hr. Tolman.
I hope, Mr President, that Parliament will follow suit.
Ordføreren har ordet.
President. — I call the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection.
Tolman, ordfører. — (NL) Jeg vil give en kort begrundelse.
President. -— I will not press you any more.
Dette er andenbehandlingen af et udkast til betænkning, og jeg mener, at det er min opgave som ordfører kort at anføre, hvilke ændringer der er foretaget sammenlignet med det foregående forslag.
We must now bring to an end this discussion on procedure. On behalf of the Bureau, the Chair undertakes to refer these questions, which have been rightly raised, to the Committee on the Rules of Procedure and Petitions, but in view of the fact that the Committee on Agricul ture has once more expressly requested that this matter should not be delayed any further, I ask the House now to begin the debate and listen to Mr Tolman.
Desuden er begyn
I call the rapporteur.
Formanden. — Kære kolleger, det spørgsmål, der nu er rejst, er vigtigt, men på det tidspunkt, da vi traf afgørelse om atter at opføre Tolman-betænkningen på denne dagsorden, blev spørgsmålet undersøgt af præsidiet.
Mrs Seibel-Emmerling, draftsman of an opinion. — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Con sumer Protection made its opinion absolutely clear to the House at the December partsession.
Jeg foreslår derfor, at der ikke nu indledes en proceduremæssig debat.
It noted with satisfaction that a large number of Members, though unfortunately not enough, agreed with its proposals.
Det drejer sig om artikel 36 og artikel 85 i forretningsordenen.
Mr Tolman, rapporteur. — (NL) I shall keep my pre sentation brief.
I artikel 36, stk. 2, hedder det bl.a.: „I dette tilfælde udarbejder udvalget på ny betænkning, som forelægges Parlamentet inden for en frist på en måned eller inden for en kortere frist, som Parlamentet undtagelsesvis måtte fastsætte."
This is the second reading of my report, and I see my task as rapporteur as being briefly to indicate what changes have been made to the previous version of the report.
Jeg ved godt, at viljen til at behandle denne betænkning er til stede i alle grupper i Parlamentet. Når der nu på en ekstrem måde skabes proceduremæssige problemer, fordi der fremdrages en anden artikel, foreslår jeg som formand for parlamentet, at vi på indeværende tidspunkt holder os til artikel 36 og følgelig går i gang med forhandlingen.
These Members joined with us in opposing the legitimation of a situation in which living creatures are forced into completely inadequate receptacles, and refused to be party to the situation described by our vice-chairman, Mr Johnson, in some ways very con vincingly, in his extremely cynical amendment No 27.
Ordføreren har ordet.
There are two distinct differences.
delsesåret — og her afviges der fra Kommissionens forslag — ikke 1995, men 1990. Med hensyn til arealet befinder vi os altså på linje med Kommissionens forslag.
Then there is the year in which the provisions should enter into force — and this is a departure from the Commission's proposal: this has been changed from 1995 to 1990.
Hr. formand, jeg tror, at det er rigtigt at behandle denne problematik nu.
The committee hoped that the withdrawal of Mr Tolman's first report would lead to a definite improve ment.
Jeg har altid sagt: vi må tage hensyn til dyrenes velvære og velværet hos dem, der har at gøre med denne problematik, og som arbejder hermed hver dag.
It finds that this was a vain hope. The second Tolman report again takes insufficient account of all the basic proposals which I presented to you in detail on 17 December and to which I refer you once more.
Tolman, ordfører. — (NL) Hr. formand, det, hr. Hord fortæller, er overhovedet ikke noget nyt.
Mr President, I believe it is a good thing we are deal ing with these problems now.
Også andre medlemmer har insisteret på, at denne anden betænkning blev behandlet hurtigst muligt.
My committee has advocated a five-year transitional period and considers this perfectly adequate.
Vi besluttede i januar i år enstemmigt at fastholde vor udtalelse og igen at forelægge de ændringsforslag, vi havde stillet, og det gør jeg hermed.
I am surprised that the agricultural world has not taken note of this obvious desire for better treatment.
Jeg håber, at jeg med Deres tilslutning, hr. formand, kan føre de bemærkninger, jeg belyste dem med den 17. december, til protokol.
I am on the farmer's side, but I do think that agriculture must do something about improving the treatment of animals.
objektiviteten og en rigtig vurdering henvise til to ulemper, der er forbundet med dette forslag. Det er naturligvis klart, at en forstørrelse af liggehønernes plads i vid udstrækning påvirker produktionsprocessen, og at omkostningerne derfor bliver højere, og forbrugeren følgelig må betale mere for produktet.
Tolman's claim that the animal welfare associations approved of his proposals, a claim which I have refuted, is again to be found in the explanatory state ment despite the correction and despite protests, for example, from the Eurogroup of Animal Welfare, the umbrella organization of animal welfare associations.
For det andet svækkes Det europæiske Fællesskabs konkurrenceevne af dette forslag.
My committee finds this very regrettable.
Denne position vil imidlertid til en vis grad blive berørt af disse foreslåede foranstaltninger, såfremt de vedtages.
The decision to send the report back to the Committee on Agriculture meant that my committee had to decide whether to draw up a new opinion.
Jeg tænker her først og fremmest på konkurrenceforholdet til De forenede Stater, hvor burpladsen varierer mellem 310 og 340 cm2.
In January, we decided unanimously to abide by our original opinion and to retable the amendments we tabled last time, which I hereby do.
Vor konkurrencemæssige stilling berøres altså, og dette betyder også, at beskæftigelsen, der er så dyrebar for os, påvirkes i negativ retning.
With your permission, Mr President, I would like the explanations I gave of those amendments on 17 December included in the record.
Vor opfattelse har ikke ændret sig, men det har desværre heller ikke den skæbne, hønsene stadig skal udsættes for, fra nu af under betegnelsen »ønsket og billiget« af Europa-Parlamentet.
Therefore I think that he ought to think again about coming for ward with 500 cm2: perhaps he would reflect that Par liament's decision should override the rapporteur's own view and the view of the committee concerned.
Formanden. — Udvalget om miljø- og sundhedsanliggender og forbrugerbeskyttelse har ordet.
President. — I call the Socialist Group.
Seibel-Emmerling, ordfører for udtalelsen. — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, udvalget om miljøog sundhedsanliggender og forbrugerbeskyttelse fremførte på entydig måde sin udtalelse for forsam lingen i mødeperioden i december.
One of the things which I said when I was speaking on this subject in December was that the Commission's proposals were half-hearted and half-baked.
Vi noterede os med tilfredshed, at et stort antal, men desværre ikke tilstrækkelig mange, medlemmer fulgte vore forslag.
I think most of us were concerned that they did not really grapple with this important subject.
Woltjer. — (NL) Jeg har netop under den procedure mæssige behandling af denne sag sagt, at det absolut ikke er rigtigt, at denne nu helt ændrede betænkning atter forelægges af hr. Tolman, uden at der anføres så meget som et argument for, at han er afveget fra det standpunkt, som Parlamentet i sin tid indtog.
Mr Woltjer. — (NL) As I have just said in the discussion on procedure in this matter, I think it is absolutely wrong that this completely different report should again be presented by Mr Tolman without a single reason being given for his departure from the position originally adopted by Parliament.
Land brugsudvalget har faktisk forhandlet med Parlamentet. Først var der tale om 450 cm2.
The Committee on Agriculture has, as it were, entered into negotiations with Parliament.
Men så kommer hr. Tolman og siger, at den maksimale grænse er nået, for ellers ville det betyde alvorlige ulemper for landbruget.
In conclusion may I say, Mr President, this is a matter which clearly exercises the minds of many millions of people in Europe.
For ikke engang et par måneder siden har samme hr. Tolman med sin gruppe udtalt sig imod en afgift på indført foder, fordi der derved ville opstå meget højere udgifter for hønseavlerne.
I do implore the Commission to recognize the concern that exists on this subject and respect the views of this Parliament.
Endnu en sidste bemærkning.
I find that a rather cryptic remark.
Hr. Tolman siger, at han er af den opfattelse, at man med 500 cm2imøde
All we are now asking is that laying hens be given a little more space in their cages.
Udvalget håbede, at tilbagetageisen af hr. Tolmans første betænkning ville føre til en klar forbedring.
Mrs Castle. — Mr President, I am delighted to be called on in this way, though rather to my surprise.
Det har ikke fået dette håb bekræftet.
I share the condemnations that have been made of Mr Tolman.
Alle vore væsentlige forslag, som jeg udførligt begrundede den 17. december, og som jeg igen nu henviser til, blev der heller ikke i hr. Tolmans anden betænkning taget tilstrækkeligt hensyn til.
I am here to support the protests that have been made about the Tolman report by my vote, and of course I have amendments down.
Mit udvalg er gået ind for en femårig overgangstid og anser dette for særdeles tilstrækkeligt.
I believe three things are essential in our approach to this matter.
Det beklager mit udvalg meget.
They are going to
Jeg synes, det er rimeligt at sige, at ordføreren ikke alene har set bort fra Parlamentets tidligere synspunkter, men at han også har udfordret Parlamentet.
Secondly, even in this interim period the standards for which we should be aiming must be the 600 cm2mini total agricultural output, and the battery-cage system has evolved as the best system for producing eggs.
Hr. formand, jeg må spørge mig selv, hvor mange gange vi skal gennemgå dette ritual.
mum and not any lesser figure than that. But as the 600 cm2is still an inadequate solution to this problem,
Hr. Tolman startede med 450 cm2.
Of course the hens are housed in near-optimum con ditions.
Denne gang er vi på 500 cm2.
Now what are we really talking about?
Skal det være nødvendigt, at vi kommer tilbage to gange mere, før han når til de 600 cm2, som blev besluttet af Parlamentet i december?
The hen is content as well. Now if, as we have heard today, you go up to the level of 600 cm2per hen, you get aggression in the birds.
på denne måde kommer hr. Hord imøde, når han gør opmærksom på, at Kommissionen endnu ikke er færdig med sine undersøgelser.
Now I think that would help to meet Mr Hord's point that we know the Commission has not finished its studies.
Vi ved, at dette ikke er en endelig løsning, men ved at understrege det påtrængende i situationen ved kun at give en 5-års periode ville vi efter min mening opnå, at der skete en hel del mere, for vi ville blive nødt til at se på hele situationen på en mere gennemgribende måde.
We know this is not a final solution, and underlining the urgency of the situation by stipulating only a five-year period would concentrate minds won derfully in my view and compel us to look at the whole situation in a more fundamental way.
Mere end 5 år må bestemt være uacceptabelt.
Certainly, more than five years would be intolerable.
Det ville virkelig være absurd at sige, at vi nu vil bruge 10 år på at nå frem til 600 cm2, for så, hvis et andet arrangement dukker op, at få en ny lang overgangsperiode for at imødekomme fjerkræindustriens finansielle vanskeligheder.
It really would be absurd to say we are going to spend 10 years getting down to 600 cm2and then, if another arrange ment is visualized, have another long interim period in order to meet the financial difficulties of the poultry industry.
Ti år er ganske enkelt noget vrøvl, og det betyder, at der ikke findes nogen hensigter om at gøre noget regulært ved sagen.
Ten years is just absolute nonsense, and it means that nothing really fundamental is intended to be done.
Jeg mener, de fleste af os var bekymrede over, at de ikke virkelig tog fat på dette vigtige emne.
that what the environmental lobby really want to see happening?
Det er derfor min opfattelse, at vi måske -på dette stadium skulle henvise hele sagen og bede om en bedre betænkning.
I would submit to this Parliament, Mr President, that interfering with the beaks of hens is far more inhumane than actually putting them into conditions in which you know they are going to survive.
Men som konklusion, hr. formand, vil jeg gerne have lov til at sige, at dette er en sag, som klart optager mange millioner mennesker i Europa.
Mr Eyraud. — (FR) Mr President, I have no wish to prolong a debate that has in my view gone on for far too long already.
Jeg må derfor på det kraftigste opfordre Kommissionen til at erkende den bekymring, der findes om dette emne, og om at respektere dette Parlaments synspunkter.
This would do two things: firstly, it would allow small producers who have fitted themselves out with battery units to 'digest', if I may so put it, the invest ment they have made, and it will also result in better conditions for the hens as and when the equipment is changed over.
Folk siger, at det ikke kan praktiseres på fem år, fordi folk i fjerkræindustrien har investeret kapital, som de endnu ikke har fået deres udbytte fra.
People say that the five years are impracticable in view of the fact that people in the poultry industry have invested capital on which they have not yet received their return.
Jeg forstår, at den periode, der kræves til at få pengene hjem, er blevet skønnet at vare omkring 10 år.
I believe that the period for getting one's money back has been estimated at about 10 years.
Men alle pengene er vel i himlens navn ikke investeret, i bure. Det har de gjort i årevis.
But they have not all just put in new battery cages, for heavens sake!
Der er sikkert mange af de eksisterende bure, der snart ikke kan bruges mere. Det kan meget vel tænkes, at det finansielle problem ender med at vise sig at være meget mindre end forudset.
Probably many of the existing battery cages have come to the end of their useful life, and in the end the financial problem might turn out to be much smaller than we have visualized.
Men under alle omstændigheder er jeg personligt helt villig til at overveje et eller andet system for kompensation til fjerkræindustrien i de tilfælde, hvor en ændring af dens nuværende arrangementer ved indførelsen af mere rimelige størrelser giver problemer.
In any case, I personally would be perfectly prepared to consider some system of compensation for the poultry industry in those cases where the alteration of their present arrangements and the introduction of more generous standards cause difficulties.
Men disse tilfælde skulle så under søges, og jeg vil gerne gentage, at jeg tror, problemerne ville blive meget mindre end folk forestiller sig.
But they would have to be examined on their merits and I repeat, I think they would be less than people visualize.
Vi har alle talt i meget generelle vendinger om dette, og landbrugsudvalget har aldrig sat nogen præcise tal på det.
We have all talked in rather a general way about this and the Committee on Agriculture has never had any specific figures put to it.
Jeg er derfor her for at kæmpe for meget højere overgangsstørrelser, en meget kortere over gangsperiode, og et krav om, at forskningen må vende sig imod alternative metoder for hønsehold, som vil give os mulighed for i tidens fylde at slippe helt af med burene.
I would also urge the need to introduce a register to be kept by battery farms in which losses would be recorded, since this would allow more effective monitoring of the health aspect.
Castle. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg er skam glad for at få ordet, skønt det i nogen grad kommer bag på mig.
President. — I call Mr Provan.
Provan. — (EN) Hr. formand, efter min mening er der et andet argument i denne sag, og det er et meget simpelt spørgsmål om, hvad der er praktisabelt.
Mr Provan. — Mr President, to my mind there is another argument in this issue, and it is the very simple matter of practicality.
En effektiv produktion afhænger af liggehønens og fuglens velfærd.
Production is dependent on the welfare of the laying hen.