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Vi er også glade for, at man har fjernet by-pass reglen, da det er helt ødelæggende for arbejdet, hvis man går uden om virksomheden i datterselskabet direkte til hovedselskabet.
Mr Bonaccini (COM). — (IT) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, as you all remember, my Group was not enthusiastic about the original outcome of the debates on the Vredeling proposals, which in my opinion undermines, as it were, the logic behind the directive.
Hr. kommissær, det er nogle positive ting, og jeg synes, det er meget vigtigt at fremhæve, at Kommissionen bør forstå, at når vi eftertrykkeligt udtaler os om noget i Parlamentet, må den også tage det til sig og forsøge at indpasse det.
There is one remark I would like to make, namely that I belong to a group of Members who came to Strasbourg from Italy convinced that there was work to be done in social as well as economic relations.
Men der er også nogle ting, vi mener bør rettes. Vi ved godt — som kommissæren har sagt her i aften — at vi i proceduren nu befinder os dér, hvor der. skal forhandles med Rådet.
I think it a little unfair to censure the Commissioner on points of constitution.
Derfor må min næste henstilling rettes til Rådet, og den går ud på, at vi mener, man skal have undergrænsen på de 100 ind, som vi har foreslået.
I think you might have a quick snipe at him as regards courtesy.
Vi ønsker fortsat, at der skal være hemmelige valg, og så er vi meget bange for de uafklarede spørgsmål, den diskussion, der meget nemt kunne opstå: Hvad betyder det at høre eller at give information i god tid?
I do think it would perhaps have been nicer and more friendly if he had, when he produced the new text, himself initiated an opportunity for a further informal discussion with Parliament, either in the Committee on Social Affairs and Employment or here.
Hvad er f.eks. hemmelige oplysninger eller oplysninger, der kunne virke skadelige for virksomheden som sådan?
I should point out that this was a minority view in my party and throughout the left generally in Italy.
Vi er bange for, at man indlader sig på nogle store diskussioner, som til syvende og sidst kan bevirke, at det, som skal være til gavn for os alle — uanset om vi er arbejdstagere eller arbejdsgivere, for det gælder jo samfundet som sådant — vil bevirke, at vigtige ordrer går tabt, at vi bliver mindre konkurrencedygtige.
In the end — and we are now coming to the end of this Parliament — the two major opportunities for worker participation which were open to us, the fifth directive and the one we are still discussing, have turned out to be mountains bringing forth mice big and small.
Vi skal der modsatte, vi skal have flere og flere ordrer ud, blive konkurrencedygtige og skabe de mange ekstra arbejdspladser, som Europa har behov for.
Results certainly fall far short of the original objective and are incapable of bringing trade union and worker participation structures closer, as I had hoped.
Tove Nieben (L). — Hr. formand, jeg var ret så forbavset, da jeg lyttede til kommissær Richards indledning, idet jeg fik den opfattelse, at kommissæren faktisk ikke rigtig kunne forstå, hvorfor vi skulle diskutere dette emne.
That being said, however, what can we reasonably resolve to do at this stage ?
Vi fik at vide, i hvilke måneder vi havde diskuteret emnet information og høring af medarbejdere i multinationale selskaber.
Mr Richard's remarks are, I think, sensible and reflect the viewpoint of someone who has considered the matter and as Member of the Commission, has weighed up the points on their individual merits.
Vi har diskuteret det flere gange.
Frankly I cannot see how he could have acted otherwise.
Hr. kommissær, det er fordi, det optager Parlamentet meget, at vi har behandlet det meget alvorligt og mange gange i udvalg og herefter i Parlamentet.
Nor can I see what sense there could be in forever putting off a final conclusion on the subject.
Derfor er der ikke noget at sige til, at vi ikke kan forstå, at vi efter måneders overvejelse i Kommissionen ikke kan få dens reaktion på Parlamentets udtalelse, som blev afgivet i september sidste år.
We do not particularly like this number of 1 000 workers, but at this stage we might just as well give it a trial, let the decision go ahead and the procedure be carried through to a conclusion.
Jeg gør opmærksom på, hr. kommissær, at jeg f.eks i marts i år — altså flere måneder efter de måneder, kommissæren nævnte — spurgte Kommissionen ved begyndelsen af mandagens møde, hvornår vi kunne forvente at høre dens reaktion på Parlamentets udtalelse fra 1982 — endda nogle måneder tilbage i 1982?
So let it go to the Council of Ministers and, if necessary, should there not be the agreement we all hope for, maybe Mr Patterson's suggestion could also be applied and efforts be made towards conciliation with the Council of Ministers to get some progress.
Er der så noget at sige til, at flere medlemmer har skrevet under på en forespørgsel til Kommissionen for at få at vide, hvad der sker, når der går så lang til?
Our conclusion is therefore to keep the proceedings going and achieve some results, at least by the end of this Parliament, on which future action may be based.
De Valera (DEP). — (EN) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, vi her i Fællesskabet mener, at yderligere drøftelser mellem arbejdsgivere og arbejdstagere er både ønskelige og nødvendige, hvis vi skal undgå kommunikationsproblemer, som fører til lukninger og arbejdsløshed.
I feel I must point out, however, that the Commissioner's position is constitutionally correct, and those rumours which reached me that members of the Socialist Group want to reopen the whole Vredeling file and write another report on the document which the Commission has now sent to Council fill me with nothing but worry.
Vi må beskytte arbejdstageren ved at beskytte hans arbejde, og for at gøre dette må vi fremme effektiviteten, produktiviteten og øge konkurrencedygtigheden.
Had we wanted to do that, we should have exercised our constitutional prerogative and not completed the consultation in December.
Herudover må vi sikre yderligere investeringer.
We may not like everything that the Commissioner has said.
Men vær rolig, hr. kommissær, jeg vil dog yde mit bidrag til, at De kan sove roligt i nat. For jeg synes i virkeligheden ikke, De skal være så bekymret.
It is not perhaps what we wanted, but it is what we were promised, and when we were promised that we took a conscious decision, accepted it and completed the consultation in December.
Selv om man bliver angrebet både fra venstre og højre side i det politiske liv, kan det i virkeligheden godt være, at man har lavet et fornuftigt stykke arbejde.
Now had the Commissioner — he would never have done so, of course — departed from the word which he gave to this House on 18 November or had he introduced new ideas of substance, or had he even taken any new ideas from those interested parties that he is so fond of consulting, then we might well have found ourselves in a more difficult position.
Men at gøre alle tilfreds tror jeg er umuligt i det politiske liv.
But he did not, and we do not have any case for a re-consultation on this matter.
Betydningen af et godt klima inden for industrien, kan ikke fremhæves nok.
Parliament, as I understand it, stands where it stood at the time of the December vote.
De Valera dige 1 000 arbejdere og lukke fabrikken.
Perhaps this was a good starting point for the very reason that it was so bad.
Arbejderne hørte om denne beslutning, ikke fra virksomhedens ledelse, men fra den lokale avis, der underhånden havde fået denne oplysning.
We have had good opportunities to improve it and we are pleased that the Commission has taken heed of what Parliament has had to say.
nationale selskabers usunde og skadelige magt, og der blev givet udtryk for, at dette direktiv var det eneste effektive middel mod dem.
I must reiterate our misgivings about the results which can be achieved, but I do not think there is any alter native to a solution of this sort.
Nu må vi imidlertid være realistiske, når det drejer sig om Irland, er der tale om små afdelinger af større virksomheder. I henhold til dette direktiv vil disse afdelinger få de samme muligheder som moderfirmaet samtidig med, at de kun har en lille del af arbejdsstyrken.
There is one point in what you said, Mr Richard, which I frankly do not understand, perhaps because the translation was inaccurate.
Vi behøver de arbejdspladser, som disse afdelinger giver.
You said that you have held so many consultations.
Da vi har den største arbejdsløshedsprocent i Fællesskabet, kan vi ikke risikere at miste disse arbejdspladser.
Fine, let us keep to the course of action we decided on before, and try to draw as much experience as possible from it so that we have some results to show for our work, which can be evaluated later in a more considered manner.
Direktiv udkastet ville få den modsatte virkning på konkurrencedygtigheden, fordi beskyttelsen af fortrolige oplysninger ikke er tilstrækkeligt.
The suggestion I am putting to you and the Members of this Parliament is therefore that the procedure should be followed through.
Dette kan maget vel risikere at skabe yderligere konflikter, der hvor vi har brug for samarbejde.
There is admittedly nothing special about this proposal, but it seems to fit in with the others put forward by various Members.
Det viser også, hvor vigtigt det er, at der findes juridiske bestemmelser, som skal sikre, at arbejderne har noget at skulle have sagt, når det drejer sig om deres fremtid.
There are, Mr Richard, a number of positive aspects, and I think it is vital to stress the point that the Commission should realize that if we in this Parliament emphatically state our views on certain points, it should note and try to take account of them.
Direktivudkastet vil skabe uoverensstemmelse om spørgsmål som høringsret og oplysningernes betimelighed og fortrolighed, hvilket igen vil medføre yder ligere forsinkelser og tab af konkurrencedygtighed.
Mrs Nielsen (L). — (DA) Mr President, I was amazed when I heard Commissioner Richard's introduction since I got the impression that he really failed to understand why we should be discussing this matter.
Der vil være alvorlig fare for, at oplysninger om nye produkter, operationsmetoder og reklameforslag når ud til konkurrerende firmaer, og det direkte resultat af dette ville være yderligere tab af arbejdspladser. Dersom et sådant direktiv trådte i kraft, ville det være ensbetydende med, at udenlandske firmaer fra f.eks. De forenede Stater og Japan ville være mindre interesserede i at investere.
We were told how many months we had been discussing the question of informing and consulting employees in multinational companies and it is quite true that we have discussed it on many occasions.
Vi må se sandheden i øjnene og erkende, at vi især i Irland er afhængig af sådanne investeringer til at skaffe arbejdspladser, idet uden landske investeringer udgør 33 % af beskæftigelsen.
It is obvious, therefore, that we cannot understand why after it has been deliberating on this point for month after month, the Commission cannot give us its reaction to the opinion issued by Parliament in September last year.
Det bør tilføjes, at Caterpillar Company i sin tid, da Europa-Parlamentet behandlede Vredeling-forsla-gene, var uhyre aktivt bag kulisserne i et forsøg på at gå imod direktivet og gjorde sit bedste for at sikre at, dersom det overhovedet blev vedtaget, blev det i en betydelig mildere udgave.
I would point out, Mr Richard, that, for example, in March of this year — that is to say several months after the months mentioned by the Commission — I asked the Commission at the beginning of the Monday sitting when we could expect to hear its reaction to Parliament's opinion of 1982 — which was issued several months before the end of 1982 to boot.
Vi i Irland er i langt højere grad en andre medlems lande afhængige af udenlandske investeringer, og hvis vi ikke erkender dette, kan vi godt opgive håbet om fortsat beskæftigelse for vor befolkning.
Is it strange, therefore, that several members should have signed a question addressed to the Commission aimed at finding out what has been going on all this time ?
Og senere fik vi så at vide, at de, med deres aktion har gjort 1 000 arbejdere arbejdsløse uden nogen form for høring overhovedet.
In our view, we should have the lower limit of 100 as we proposed.
Det. foreslåede direktiv er meget utilfredsstillende på en lang række punkter.
We continue to advocate secret votes and for this reason, we are very much concerned about the questions which have not been clarified and the debate which could very easily arise as to what is meant by consulting or providing information in good time ?
F.eks. indeholder det ikke nogen definition på fortrolighed.
What does 'in good time' mean ?
Straffen for ikke at overholde direktivet er ikke beskrevet, og Kommissionen har undladt at medtage Europa-Parlamentets ændringsforslag om hemmelig afstemning blandt arbejdsrepræsentanterne.
What, for example, is 'secret information' or 'information which may have damaging effects for the undertaking as such' ?
Efter min mening er dette en fundamental ret, som arbejdstagerne har, og som bør ligge helt fast og beskyttes.
We must have more and more orders, we must be competitive and we must create the many extra jobs which Europe so vitally needs.
Der går mange rygter om, at firmaet ikke engang skal for flyttes til andre dele af Det forenede Kongerige, men vil overflytte en del af produktionen fra den nordøstlige del af England til Korea — af indlysende grunde.
Even if one is attacked from both left and right in the political arena it might well be that one has nevertheless done a good piece of work. However, it is, I think, impossible to please everybody in politics.
Helt bortset herfra, hr. formand, har det glædet mig at få lejlighed til endnu en gang at give udtryk for den mening, som ikke blot de irske medlemmer af de europæiske fremskridtsdemokraters gruppe men samt lige medlemmer af gruppen har.
I am certainly not happy, but there is some thing which we in the Liberal Group find sensible in the new proposal, and there are other things which we do not find sensible.
Quin (S). — (EN) Da vi nu fører denne debat, glæder det mig, at få lejlighed til at tale, fordi jeg ønsker at henlede Parlamentets opmærksomhed på et helt andet aspekt af visse af de spørgsmål, der indgår i Vrede-ling-debatten, og et bevis på, hvorfor der er behov for et stærkt direktiv.
Miss De Valera (DEP). — Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, we in the Community believe that further consultation between employers and employees is both desirable and necessary to prevent a breakdown of communications, which leads to closures and redun-
Gennem vores forespørgsel har vi, som Tove Nielsen allerede har præciseret det, krævet en skriftlig, dvs. en bindende tekst, som vi kan diskutere under en sådan mundtlig forespørgsel med forhandling.
Miss Quin (S). — Since this debate is taking place, I am glad to have an opportunity to speak, since I wish to bring to the attention of the Parliament a vivid illustration of the issues involved in the Vredeling debate and an illustration of why a strong directive is needed.
Richard, medlem af Kommissionen. — (EN) Jeg ønsker at spørge parlamentsmedlemmet, om hun vil være så elskværdig at sende mig de nærmere oplysninger om hele denne sag, idet jeg udmærket husker den holdning, Caterpillar indtog i forbindelse med korridorpolitikken omkring dette spørgsmål. Det bedste ville nok være, hvis jeg kunne få de nærmere oplysninger, om jeg kontaktede Caterpillar direkte og bad dem om en forklaring.
On August 31 in a town in the north-east of England, it was learnt that an American multinational the Caterpillar Tractor Company, was to make a thousand workers redundant and close the factory.
I den forbindelse kan vi konstatere, at mange af Parlamentets standpunkter er blevet overtaget af Kommissionen, og at vi kan arbejde meget snævert sammen på disse områder.
In the last debate that took place on this draft directive, there was much talk about the unwholesome and unhealthy power of multinationals, and it was suggested that this directive was the only effective measure that could be taken against them.
At der findes en række andre punkter, hvor vi ikke nåede til enighed, bliver vi måske nødt til at diskutere ved en anden lejlighed.
Let us be realistic here, In the case of Ireland, we are talking about small subsidiaries of major undertakings.
Quin (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, det ville glæde mig at efterkomme Deres ønske.
We need the jobs that these subsidiaries provide.
Spencer (ED). — (EN) Jeg ønsker at komme med en bemærkning, hr. formand.
As we have the highest unemployment rate in the Commnity, we cannot afford to put these jobs at risk.
Hvis vi skal udlevere et selskab som Caterpillar — og det har intet at gøre med denne helt særlige lejlighed — hvis det viser sig, at det ærede parlamentsmedlems anklage er ubegrundet, får vi på denne måde lejlighed til at finde frem til sandheden.
The draft direc tive would have an adverse affect on competitiveness because of the inadequacies of the protection for confidential information.
Jeg er sikker på, at det var, hvad kommissionsmedlemmet mente, da han bad om yder ligere oplysninger om dette.
This might well introduce further conflict where there should be cooperation.
Formanden. — Jeg noterer mig Deres bemærkning — den havde ikke ret meget at gøre med et indlæg til forretningsordenen.
It also shows why it is important to have legal provisions to make sure that workers do have some say over their own future.
Jeg personligt mener imidlertid, at det afgørende er, hvad der er sket med valgproceduren.
The draft directive will give rise to litigation about such matters as rights to consultation, the timing of and the confidentiality of information, which in turn will lead to further delays and loss of competitiveness.
At et land skal have udemokratiske bestemmelser vedrørende repræsentationen af arbejdstagere, lader sig ikke forene med vores grundlæggende opfattelse af demokrati.
There will be a grave danger that information about new products, the mode of operation and marketing proposals may be leaked to rival firms, and the direct result of this would be a further loss of jobs.
For mig betyder demokrati nu engang også hemmelige og direkte valg.
If such a directive were in force, it would offer far less attractive prospects to foreign investors such as the United States and Japan.
Hvis man inden for et lands grænser har mulighed for at knibe udenom eller at slå ind på en anden vej, så kan det godt lige gå an.
We must face the reality by acknowledging that we, especially in Ireland, rely on such investments to provide employment as foreign invest ments account for 33% of employment.
Men her drejer det sig om et direktiv, som har grænseoverskridende betydning, hvor arbejdstager fra et medlemsland har mulighed for at øve indflydelse på virksomheder i et andet medlemsland. Derfor kan dette for eksempel efter mit lands opfattelse ikke accepteres.
It should be further added that the Caterpillar Company was extremely active, at the time when the European Parliament was considering the Vredeling proposals, in lobbying against the directive and doing its very best to ensure that if passed at all it would be passed in a greatly weakened form.
Ved at der nemlig ikke sker et direkte og hemmeligt valg, viser man, at man anser arbejdstagerne for at være umyndige, og ude af stand til selvstændighed at træffe fornuftige beslutninger.
In a letter they sent to British Members of the European Parliament, the firm states that it believes that companies should inform and involve employees in matters of concern to them and that it makes a substantial effort to do so. It then goes on to say :
Brok (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, jeg tror ikke, at jeg endnu engang i enkelt heder behøver understrege, at jeg og min gruppe anser direktivet for at være nødvendigt.
We in Ireland depend to a far greater extent than any of the other Member States on foreign investments, and if we do not recognize this we are signing away the hope of lasting employment for our people.
Det tror jeg, vi har vist meget tydeligt i det forberedende arbejde til Parlamentets beslutninger sidste år, og jeg behøver ikke her at gentage de argumenter, som vi allerede har fremhævet i debatten.
There have been instances in which some multinational companies have failed to communicate adequately on matters of concern to employees, but the vast majority of multinational companies should not be judged or penalized for the short comings of a few.
Jeg kan umuligt få det til at harmonere med min opfattelse af, hvad virkelig parlamentarisme er, at netop de punkter i Kommissionens argumentation, som går imod Parlamentets beslutninger, fremhæves som værende positive, mens han beskylder de kolleger, som her i Forsamlingen har repræsenteret en anden opfattelse end han selv for at være bukket under for presset fra den amerikanske kapitalisme. Jeg mener ikke, hr. Peters, at den slags ytringer hører hjemme her.
The penalities for non-compliance with the directiive are not outlined, and the Commission have neglected to incorporate the European Parliament's amendments with regard to a secret ballot among the workers' representatives.
Derfor må Parlamentet, som det allerede er blevet nævnt i dag via en samrådsprocedure med medlemslandenes rege-
Now it is widely rumoured that the company is not even to be concentrated in other parts of the United Kingdom but is going to transfer some of its production from this plant in the north-east of England to Korea — for obvious reasons.
Vore spørgsmål — og jeg er en af dem, der har skrevet under på denne forespørgsel — går i retning af, at Parlamentet får opfyldt sin ret til altid at blive holdt underrettet om sagernes gang.
With that, Mr President, I have been delighted to take the opportunity of expressing the views again, not only of the Irish members of the EPD, but of all members of the EPD Group.
Er hun her ikke?
American capitalism.
uafhængig af Parlamentet, desværre har Kommissionen ikke gjort det i foreliggende tilfælde. Det forbavser mig, at kommissæren ikke har svaret på de skriftlige forespørgsler om emnet.
What has happened in this case is not some unimportant or trivial local example but is a frightening instance of the problems that workers employed by such firms experience and their difficulties, unless there is some directive, in having any say over their own future.
Der er blevet anmodet om oplysning om, hvor mange virksomheder, der nu er inddraget, når det drejer sig om 1000 arbejdstagere. Ved sidste års forhandlinger kunne Kommissionen heller ikke oplyse, hvor mange virksomheder med 100 henholdsvis 50 arbejdstagere, der var berørt.
I hope the Parliament will show a proper sense of outrage at this event and condemn without any equivocation the actions of this company — actions that even under the feeble form of the Vredeling directive which was passed by this Parliament would be completely illegal.
Spørgsmålene fra hr. Plum m.fl. er nu overflødige, de blev stillet den 7. juli, og den 15. juli bekendtgjorde kommissæren sit ende lige standpunkt m.h.t. direktivet.
As Mrs Nielsen has already pointed out, we have, in this Oral Question called for a written and hence binding text for discussion in connection with an Oral Question with debate of this kind.
Formanden. — Jeg mener ikke, dette er et indlæg til forretningsordenen.
Mr Richard, Member of the Commission. — Before the honourable lady sits down, I wonder if I could ask her a question ?
Eisma (NI). — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg er glad for, at jeg også har fået lov til at sige noget.
Mr Richard, Member of the Commission. — Would she be kind enough to send me the details of this whole affair, since I well remember the position that Caterpillar took in relation to the lobbying on this particular issue ?
Jeg syntes, hr. Richards svar var agressivt, og efter min mening passer argumentationen heller ikke, for der er gået en rum tid mellem november og december 1982 og midten af juli 1983, som Kommissionen åbenbart har haft brug for til at bestemme sit standpunkt med hensyn til dette direktiv.
I think it would be right, therefore, if I could have all the details, for me to get in touch directly with Caterpillar and ask them for an explanation. tion.