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van der Mei, fungerende formand for Rådet. — (NL) Spørgsmålet om stemmeret til lokale valg for medlemsstaternes statsborgere med bopæl i en anden medlemsstat er blevet behandlet i forbindelse med spørgsmålet om tildeling af særrettigheder for medlemsstaternes borgere.
Mr Estgen. — (FR) Mr President, like all my colleagues, I have listened with very great attention to the statements by the President-in-Office about the meeting of the European Council in Maastricht, and also to his statement that during the present economic difficulties the Community still represents something of fundamental importance; a statement which the Council endorsed unanimously.
Under de drøftelser der med regelmæssige mellemrum foregår herom, har man berørt de fordele, som det ærede parlaments medlem fremhæver, men det har samtidig vist sig, at der stadig er vanskeligheder navnlig for visse kommuner eller regioner i medlemsstaterne.
That is a comforting thought, but they are more fine words than anything else, and I am inclined to think of Dr Faust's words: 'I understand the message well enough; what I lack is the faith'.
Hammerich. — Hr. formand, jeg forstår nu ikke, hvad vi skal med et nyt pas, for vi har jo et i forvejen, som vi er meget godt tilfredse med. Men jeg vil spørge Dem om noget konkret.
Mr Fich. — (DA) Mr President, many people have expressed great pessimism after the Maastricht meeting, but one must really ask what these people expected.
I mit land har der været stor bekymring, fordi der er planer om en optisk læsbar forside på hvert pas.
At the meetings of the European Council it is still more the rule than the exception that there are in fact no particularly concrete results.
Mit spørgsmål er følgende: Bliver der en optisk læsbar side på dette europæiske pas, så hver borger kan identificeres ved sit CPR-nr?
There have been very few occasions on which the European Council has actually reached concrete decisions nor has it in fact ever been intended that it should do so.
Pesmazoglou. — (GR) Jeg takker for svaret.
Mr Møller pointed this out earlier today and I agree with him.
Bortset fra at dette emne er af stor betydning for vort lands arbejdstagere, er det ligeledes af stor betydning for styrkelsen af den sociale samhørighed mellem vore folk.
It has never been intended that the European Council should develop into a type of court of appeal to which one could go whenever something could not be achieved in the Council of Ministers.
van der Mei. — (NL) Der er her tale om to spørgsmål, hvis jeg har forstået det rigtigt.
I am speaking here today as a member of the Committee on Youth, Culture and Information and, so to speak, on behalf of the youth of Europe who are likely to be losing their faith and their confidence in the Community and its institutions.
For det første det spørgsmål, om vi skal have endnu et pas. Nej, vi skal ikke have endnu et pas, der skal kun være et pas.
Quite the contrary, in fact: the Maastricht Summit has added to the disillusionment felt by the young people of Europe; we must be candid about it and not hide it from ourselves.
For det andet det spørgsmål, om der bliver indføjet et blad, som er optisk læsbart på en teknisk set meget indviklet måde?
In my opinion the problems originate in reality in the Council of Ministers, in that one can relevantly ask: is there any Council of Ministers at all?
Le Roux. — (FR) Med henblik på denne optiske læsning kan Rådet så garantere os, at anvendelsen af datamaskiner ikke vil gøre dette europæiske pas til en anstødssten for individets rettigheder?
We have seen on many occasions how the Council of Agricultural Ministers takes one decision while the Council of Finance Ministers takes another decision, and in spite of the fact that the two organs should really be one and the same, the two decisions have not very much in common.
van der Mei. — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne give det ærede medlem følgende svar.
What is more, the summit has not brought one inch of progress to the European cause.
Hvorfor fastsættes der ikke nogen endelig frist for dette anliggende?
All of the great problems still remain without any precise answer, and with no real political impetus.
Jeg tror, at der i en række medlemsstater er opstået van skeligheder omkring dette problem, som i visse tilfælde er af konstitutionel art. I en række andre medlemsstater opstår disse vanskeligheder ikke, og i endnu andre medlemsstater er man i gang med at træffe foranstaltninger for at imødegå det, det ærede medlem i sit spørgsmål fremhævede.
It may be true that agreement has been reached on a number of points such as dialogue with the United States, the Council's performance as regards the Middle East, particularly on the question of a common approach to monetary policy, is very meagre.
van der Mei. — (NL) Jeg tror ikke, der i det nye pas vil blive medtaget andre oplysninger end dem, der stod i det gamle pas.
Other questions of foreign policy — Poland — show some more convincing agreement.
Så jeg kan ikke se, der skulle opstå sådanne vanskeligheder, som det ærede medlem antyder.
Those, however, who look for some joint strategy on security and defence will look in vain.
Er han ikke enig med mig i at det eneste, der skal gøres, er at opstille en valgliste over dem, som har stemmeret til lokale valg, og at der ikke burde være nogen uoverkommelige vanskeligheder forbundet hermed hvis der blot er så meget som en brøkdel af vilje i Rådet?
We must not forget that the EEC was set up in the 1950s to solve regional problems in Western Europe, problems such as agricultural systems, the customs' union, the coal and steel union, and during the fifties and sixties the EEC virtually solved these problems.
Habsburg. — (DE) Hr. formand, hvorfor vælger man egentlig den 1. januar 1985 som frist?
But the problems which we face nowadays are of a different nature.
Eftersom der nu er opnået enighed om de grundlæggende principper, ville det da være meget lettere at indføre det europæiske pas meget tidligere.
They are in fact much bigger, they are worldwide, and it is now becoming evident that in fact, the EEC does not function particularly well when it comes to solving these problems, because it does not have the competence, so to speak, to solve them.
Det betyder, at der i en række medlemsstater skal træffes over gangsforanstaltninger, og de kræver nu en gang den nødvendige tid. I nogle medlemsstater formodentlig længere tid end i andre.
The conclusion to be reached after the Maastricht meeting must in my view therefore be that the EEC obviously cannot solve the very crucial problems such as unemployment, energy, and others which we are
van der Mei. — (NL) Det er altid meget vanskeligt at tale om tilstedeværelsen af god vilje eller manglen på samme hos ens forhandlingspartnere.
As for the question of the seat of this Assembly, as a Member of this House I find myself scarcely satisfied by the solution — if solution it is — of retaining the status quo.
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Estgen now, should not show signs of stagnation, and even less of recession.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 57 af Hutton (H-707/ 80): van der Mei. — (NL) Jeg ville ønske, at jeg kunne give et svar på dette spørgsmål i form af et tal.
President. — The President-in-Office of the Council has to leave us now, and has asked to speak for one last time by 5 p.m. at the latest.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 58 af Marshall (H-738/ 80):
one of us has found sybilline, and interpret it plainly.
Agter Rådet nu at gennemføre den på topmødet i Paris i 1974 opnåede aftale om, at det er nødvendigt at give afkald på sædvanen med at gøre aftaler om alle spørgsmål betinget af medlemsstaternes enstemmige godkendelse, medens vetoret som oprindelig planlagt kun skal opretholdes, for så vidt angår væsentlige spørgsmål af afgørende national interesse?
And in any event I hope that the dialogue on this point with the European Parliament will not be a dialogue between the deaf; I am convinced that this House itself will help find an equitable solution which can be taken in full knowledge of the political consequences and financial implications of any proposed solution, and taken with an eye to the legal competences which are set out in the Treaties.
Kan Rådet oplyse, hvor mange af Kommissionens forslag det endnu ikke har truffet afgørelse om?
Mr Van der Klaauw. — (NL) Mr President, I am sorry, but as I said earlier, 5 p.m. is my absolute dead line.
Hvor mange af disse spørgsmål har henligget uafgjorte i mere end to år?
Following on from what I said just before lunch, I should like to deal with just one point, and the Secretary of State will be replying to the whole debate after the last Member has spoken.
van der Mei, fungerende formand for Rådet. — (NL) Rådet kan forsikre det ærede medlem for, at alle Rådets beslutninger træffes i overensstemmelse med bestemmelserne i traktaterne.
As I said earlier, it has become evident in this debate that what we are concerned with is not merely the report on what happened at the meeting of the European Council, but the whole range of European politics, for which the Secretary of State in my Ministry is responsible.
Hutton. — (EN) Var formanden for Rådet opmærksom på de synspunkter, præsident Giscard d'Estaing gav udtryk for efter Det europæiske Råd i Maastricht, nemlig at det nu var nødvendigt at tage afstand fra Luxembourg-forliget, og kan formanden for Rådet fortælle os, hvornår det nederlandske formandskab vil fremsætte forslag med henblik på dette spørgsmål?
Come what may, we must, I feel, abandon the idea that a European summit can be any true reflection of European policy, or can give any real impetus to such a policy. Too much propaganda and too much showbusiness surrounds this meeting of the Heads of State.
Efter behandling af de henstillinger, de tre vismænds rapport indeholder, mener Rådet ikke, det er nødvendigt at fastlægge nye principper inden for området af proceduren for afstemning. Efter min mening, hr. formand, ligger der en vis autoritet bag denne holdning.
Indeed, it would be better done without any official communiqué at all, and we are quite right to ask exactly what such a vague communiqué as we have is worth.
Israël. — (FR) Når det forholder sig sådan, hr. formand, har De så til hensigt at tage initiativet til, at de tre vismænds rapport gennemføres nøje?
As regards unemployment, I should just like to say that this problem dominated our discussions in Maastricht, as is only logical and self-evident.
For de tre vismænds rapport er ikke baseret på tanken om at vende tilbage til enstemmig godkendelse. Der tales om flertalsbeslutninger.
The problem of unemployment will of course not be solved at a stroke at a single meeting of the European Council, but one thing is sure, and that is that it cannot be solved at national level.
Har det nederlandske formandskab til hensigt at tage et nyt initiativ i retning af det, de tre vismænd foreslog?
Technical training for young people is one of the things the European Council came out in favour of.
van der Mei, fungerende formand for Rådet. — (NL) Kommissionen giver regelmæssigt en oversigt over de forslag, der endnu er til behandling i Rådet.
For our part we must consider ourselves lucky that no ill wind is blowing around us.
I lighed med sit svar på et spørgsmål stillet af lord Bruce of Donington i februar 1979 erkender Rådet, at der i nogle tilfælde går temmelig lang tid mellem fremsættelsen af et forslag fra Kommissionen og Europa-Parlamentets udtalelse på den ene side og Rådets afgørelse på den anden.
Mr Thorn did well to remind us that we must change, direct our thoughts elsewhere, change our procedures, and that the European institutions set up by the Treaties must set out to exploit to the full the powers granted to them by those Treaties.
Som illustration vil jeg anføre, at Rådet i løbet af 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979 og 1980, det vil sige i løbet af 5 år, på grundlag af de Rådet forelagte forslag har vedtaget 2 974 forordninger, direktiver, beslutninger og henstillinger ud af i alt 3 114 forslag fra Kommissionen.
So that we can get out of the impasse, out of this stagnation we have at present, governments must agree that each will set up its own office responsible for coordinating European affairs, just as Mr Klepsch, the President of our Group so rightly advocated this morning when he spoke of centralization ('Federführung').
På den ene side altså 3 114 forslag fra Kommissionen, på den anden side 2 974 forordninger, direktiver, beslutninger og henstillinger.
It is my belief that proper ministries for Community affairs should be established by each government, and that those affairs should not be left to be dealt with by second-division departments.
I lyset af disse oplysninger og under hensyntagen til den kendsgerning, at Kommissionen regelmæssigt tager forslag tilbage, ser det for mig ud, som om den række forslag, det ærede medlem tilsigter, og som er til behandling i Rådet, vil blive betydeligt mindre.
This Parliament and the Commission must have for dialogue a proper college of government ministers empowered to bring about advances in the European Community.
Marshall. — (EN) Måske forstod jeg ikke rigtig formanden for Rådets svar, men jeg mener ikke, han faktisk besvarede nogen af de to spørgsmål, der er blevet fremsat, så måske vil han være så venlig at gøre det.
Moving on to the overall approach to the problems facing us, Mr Beumer had some very noteworthy things to say on this score, especially with regard to the Jumbo Council.
van der Mei. — (NL) Rådets reaktion på de tre vismænds rapport er ikke nogen reaktion fra en fjern fortid, men en holdning, som blevfastlagt for ikke så længe siden af Rådet. Efter min mening er det reelt at acceptere denne reaktion som havende gyldighed på nuværende tidspunkt.
He was indeed right in saying that this amounted to an integrated policy.
van der Mei. — (NL) Jeg mener nu nok, at jeg har besvaret ét spørgsmål med det, jeg i begyndelsen sagde til det ærede medlem.
It is precisely for that reason diat we intend to convene the Jumbo Council to tackle the social problems in conjunction with economic and financial policy — in other words, the whole thing at one go.
Jeg sagde nemlig, at Kommissionen regelmæssigt giver en oversigt over de forslag, som endnu er til behandling i Rådet.
But that is not something we can do from one day to the next, and for that reason, the motion for a resolution rightly calls for thorough preparation of this meeting.
Der kan det ærede medlem således finde konkrete svar.
Something must come out of the meeting.
Det blev for nylig fastslået af energiministeriet i Det forenede Kongerige, at kulefterspørgslen i år 2000 sand-
It is with this in mind that I will close by saying that never again, shall I expect too much from so-called summits.
I så tilfælde, hvor mange af de ikke-behandlede forslag — aktmapperne ligger på hans bord — og hvis jeg må foregribe svaret på det næste spørgsmål tror jeg, der er tale om ca. 200 — mener han så, man kan nå igennem under det nederlandske formandskab ved at anvende flertalsafstemning?
That, however, is also why they will never shake my faith in the idea of European advance. What is needed is for the other authorities established by the Treaties to give to the young people of Europe a belief in the vitality of our Community; vitality which, even during this time of great difficulties, and above all
Formanden synligvis vil falde til 155 millioner tons, hvilket udgør en nedadgående tendens fra den tidligere beregning på 170 millioner tons. Dette kommer på et tidspunkt, hvor frem tidens efterspørgsel efter kul anses for at være stigende af alle eksperter. Finder Rådet, at dette er en realistisk vurdering?
Mr Penders. — (NL) Mr President, I should like to begin by congratulating the Minister on what he had to say at 4.10 p.m., especially his complaint that so few Members of this House were present in the Chamber.
van der Mei. —· (NL) Den tanke, det ærede medlem har fremsat, er efter min mening meget tillokkende.
Of course, there is some degree of scepticism — that is only to be expected. Whenever you start anything new, people are bound to ask whether anything will come of it.
Men man har desværre endnu ikke kunnet drøfte denne tanke i Rådet, fordi Rådet endnu ikke har fået forelagt noget forslag fra Kommissionen.
Our aim must be to try to give priority to specific elements, which is why I am pleased at the text of the motion for a resolution and deplore the lack of agree ment on it in this House.
Når Rådet har fået det, så går jeg ud fra, at hvis Europa-Parlamentet måtte blive bedt om at afgive en udtalelse, så vil det ærede medlems tanke utvivlsomt også spille en vigtig rolle i denne udtalelse, således at den også under drøftelserne i Rådet, om nødvendigt og om muligt, vil kunne blive taget med i betragtning.
Listening to Mr Van Minnen going on about the fact that the Jumbo is even slower than a glider — and bearing in mind too that a number of Socialist Members have joined in tabling this motion for a resolution — I feel bound to point out that Mr Van Minnen is entirely ignoring the reference to thorough preparation. But the Dutch presidency is endeavouring to convene the Jumbo Council during its period of office.
Vil Rådet fremsætte en erklæring om det fremskridt, der er gjort med henblik på Kommissionens forslag om at fastsætte indkomststøtte for arbejdere på 55 år eller derover, der forlader skibsbygningsindustrien — et forslag, der blev hilst med glæde af Europa-Parlamentet under mødeperioden i december 1980?
What it boils down to is that the European Council decided to take no decision at all, and this despite the fact that France had asked for a final ruling on the question and the European Parliament had asked to be consulted in any decision on the matter.
van der Mei. — (NL) Vi drøftede for lidt siden netop problematikken omkring import af råolie, Fælles skabets stilling og udviklingslandenes stilling.
The inter esting point now, Mr President — and I trust you are listening carefully here — is whether we are to inter pret this non-decision as a defeat for France.
Der blev i den forbindelse, også i mit svar, gjort opmærksom på nødvendigheden af at udvikle alternative energikilder.
If so, that would explain the nervous haste with which Paris sought to bend the status quo decision in Strasbourg's favour immediately after the European Council.
I forbindelse med udviklingen af alternative energikilder spiller stenkul naturligvis en stor og vigtig rolle.
I would also say that the intrigues surrounding the question of Parliament's seat justifies this House's wish to decide on its own place of work.
Jeg mener også, at man inden for Fællesskabet er igang med at tilpasse politikken i retning af, at der skal anvendes mere stenkul.
The voters have no sympathy whatsoever for this House's inefficient wanderings.
Spørgsmål nr. 60 af Pruvot (H-776/ van der Mei, fungerende formand for Rådet. — (NL) Rådet konstaterede under de første drøftelser, der fandt sted om dette spørgsmål den 27. november 1980, at dette forslag rejste en række princippielle problemer, og det har til hensigt at sætte dette punkt på dagsordenen for sit møde den 9. juni 1981, når spørgsmålet er blevet undersøgt endnu engang af de kompetente instanser.
For that reason, I believe that the European Parliament should reach a decision as soon as possible on the basis of the Zagari report, and incidentally, my Group goes along with me in this. I may add in a personal capacity that I am not prepared to tolerate a situation whereby the European government and the European Parliament meet at places hundreds of kilometres apart.
For øjeblikket kan Rådet derfor ikke foregribe resultatet af de drøftelser, der skal finde sted den 9. juni i år.
To my knowledge, there is only one other place in the world where a similar situation exists, and that is South Africa.
Den påtænkte indretning af fællesskabsarkiver i det europæiske universitetsinstitut i Firenze vil gøre det muligt at skabe et forskningscenter, der vil være yderst nyttigt for historikere og for Europa-Parlamentets arbejde: dette vil også være et vigtigt bidrag til den euro pæiske samfunds-model.
The European Parliament must be European in spirit — just like the European Council — however difficult it may be for this House, for the European Council and for the ordinary Councils of Ministers to think in European terms.
Kan Rådet bekræfte, at denne overflytning vil ske allerede til næste år?
Mr President, I shall look forward to the next debate with the European Parliament.
van der Mei. — (NL) Hr. formand, det aspekt, det ærede medlem fremfører, er naturligvis et vigtigt aspekt. Jeg går ud fra, at det utvivlsomt kan og bør spille en vigtig rolle under de drøftelser, social ministrene skal føre om dette anliggende.
President. — On behalf of the House, I should like to thank the President-in-Office of the Council for staying here so long and for his statements and remarks.
van der Mei, fungerende formand for Rådet. — (NL) Spørgsmålet om offentlighedens adgang til Fællesskabets arkiver efter en vis, fastsat frist, er for øjeblikket under behandling. I 1980 lovede Kommissionen Rådet, at den ville forelægge et passende forslag med henblik på dette anliggende.
The second point I should like to make, Mr President, concerns the absence in Strasbourg of the President of the European Council.
van Minnen. — (NL) Det tempo, man behandler dette anliggende i, svarer overhovedet ikke til det tempo, hvori arbejdstagere inden for skibsbygningsindustrien — og ikke blot dem på 55 og derover — bliver arbejdsløse.
It need not be disastrous, but we are bound to ask what he got back in the form of European — not national — change.
den politik, Chiles og Det forenede Kongeriges rege ring fører i og med, at de begge fører en monetaristisk politik.
As a result, Mr President, we also have a problem with our Community budget.
De skærer også begge ned i de sociale udgifter, begge skaber de massearbejdsløshed.
Out of 17 814 million EUA, 3 299 million will go to science policy, energy, transport industries, the Regional Fund, the Social Fund and cooperation and development.
Begge angriber de arbejdernes levestandard.
I would now like to finish my speech by putting to you briefly the three proposals I have.
Men hr. van Minnen må også vide, at det ikke er den eneste erhvervsgren, der er konfronteret med denne problematik.
Secondly, we believe that if the employment situation in the Community is to be improved, we must be able to take new technology on board straight away and at every level: electronics, telematics, cybernetics and microprocessors in particular; at the same time we must also have job training to retrain workers.
Og hvad angår problemets påtrængende karakter sagde jeg i mit første svar allerede, at Socialministerrådet vil drøfte dette anliggende den 9. juni i år.
An integrated programme must be started involving workers, employers, governments and the Community together: we all share those responsibilities.
Men Det forenede Kongeriges regering støtter aktivt facismen i Chile på den måde, jeg har beskrevet i mit spørgsmål.
Mr Michel. — (FR) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I would like first of all to make three observations, and then to propose to you three things which can be done.
Og det simple spørgsmål, jeg stiller til formanden for Rådet, lyder: er det virkelig hans mening at sige, at han ikke er villig til at fremsætte nogen som helst kommentar med henblik på Parlamentets beslutning, som blev taget for et par måneder siden, om at indstille den økonomiske og militære bistand til Chile?
My first observation: the Council's self-satisfaction with what went on at Maastricht. The Council notes that the Community has a healthy and stable infrastructure which would give us cause for rejoicing if it were true; that there is sustained economic growth, that employment levels are satisfactory, monetary policy is prudent, that there is healthy management of budget and public and private invest ments, and they are productive and dynamic, and finally that economic structures are tending towards renewal and efficiency.