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Det er en stor gåde for mig — jeg er ikke jurist, men jeg er tilstrækkeligt juridisk kyndig til at vide det — hvorledes det er muligt, at positive aktioner kan stri de mod forfatningen.
I find it very difficult to understand — I am no lawyer, but I have had enough legal training to know this — how positive action can conflict with a constitution.
Det forekommer mig umuligt, og jeg vil foreslå fru Vayssade at undersøge, om vi ikke på grundlag af disse bemærkninger bør sende betænkningen tilbage til kvindeudvalget.
I do not think that is possible, and I would suggest to Mrs Vayssade that, in view of these remarks, she con sider supporting a proposal that the report should be referred back to the Committee on Women's Rights.
Men jeg vil gerne først fastslå, at kommissærens bemærkninger ikke forekommer mig acceptable.
But above all I want to say that the Commissioner's remarks do not seem acceptable to me.
Salisch (S). — (DE) Fru formand, det, fru Maij Weggen netop har sagt, kan jeg kun tilslutte mig.
(After the vote on the proposal from the Commission)
Mit andet punkt: jeg forstår ikke, hvorfor vi ikke skulle fortsætte diskussionen, eftersom både ændringerne til rådsresolutione og fru Vayssades beslutning
All the amendments unanimously approved by the Committee on Social Affairs and Employment simply call on the Commission to carry out studies and to lay foundations.
Cinciari Rodano hen fordi vi ikke har handlingsevne og som følge her af bør man ikke forfalde til den letkøbte fristelse det er at kaste et problem tilbage, som man på forhånd ved, vi ikke kan løse.
Salisch chairman of the committee concerned, which is the Committee on Women's Rights, or the rapporteur may ask for the motion to be referred back to com mittee for reconsideration.
Formanden. — Jeg synes, vi har haft en grundig drøftelse.
The decision taken in the committee was clear.
Vi har hørt formanden for udvalget, vi har hørt ordføreren, og vi har hørt kommissæren forklare sin opfattelse.
I fail to see how the Commission would be com mitted where taking account of these amendments is concerned.
Fru Lenz har faktisk anmodet os om at fortsætte afstemningen, så udvalgets formand har klart tilkendegivet sin opfattelse.
Mrs Lenz has, in fact, asked us to continue with the vote, so the chairman of the committee has clearly given her view.
Ifølge artikel 85 kan ethvert medlem foreslå henvisning til fornyet udvalgsbehandling.
Under Rule 85, any other Member may ask for a matter to be referred back to committee.
Vi har hørt fru Lenz' opfattelse, nemlig at vi bør gå videre med betænkningen.
We have heard the view of Mrs Lenz that we should continue with the report.
Er der noget medlem, som ønsker at henvise denne sag til fornyet udvalgsbehandling?
Does any Member want to have this matter referred back to committee?
Hvis det er tilfældet, må vi stem me om det.
If so, we shall have to take a vote on it.
Tongue (S). — (EN) Jeg vil støtte denne betænkning.
Mrs Vayssade (S), rapporteur. — (FR) Madam Presi dent, I cannot agree with your interpretation.
Vayssade (S), ordfører. — (FR) Fru formand, jeg er ikke enig i Deres fortolkning. Det korresponderende udvalg ønsker ikke, at teksten skal henvises til fornyet udvalgsbehandling.
Mrs Lenz (PPE), chairman of the Committee on Women's Rights. — (DE) Madam President, the Com mittee on Women's Rights gave all Members the opportunity of tabling amendments by the prescribed time.
Vi har gjort vort arbejde og afgivet vores udtalelse.
The amendments were not presented in this form, and they were not discussed.
Jeg mener, at vi børgøre af stemningen helt færdig, og at Parlamentet bør udtalte sig, før ministrene mødes den 5. juni.
We approved the amendments of the Committee on Women's Rights by a large majority — with one vote against.
Jeg tror, de fleste af dem stadig kunne tænke sig, at kvinderne blev hjemme, som ulønnede kokke- og skurepiger og omsorgsassistenter.
On the other hand, the Committee on Social Affairs and Employment did not have enough time to complete its deliberations, because its meeting took place after the meeting of the Com mittee on Women's Rights.
Rådet har ikke ved taget nogen retsakter om lige muligheder af nogen betydning i de sidste seks-syv år.
Members who also belong to the Committee on Social Affairs and Employment had every opportunity to present their amendments in the Committee on Women's Rights.
Men dette program vil blive vedtaget af den simple grund, at det ikke har nogen juridiske konsekvenser og derfor ikke får stor betydning.
I therefore see no reason why my committee should agree to withdraw ing the report.
Formanden. — Vi har nu hørt ordføreren og for manden for udvalget.
President. — We have now heard the rapporteur and the chairman of the committee.
Jeg giver nu ordet til kommissæren, og derefter går vi over til afstemningen.
I shall now give the floor to the Commissioner and then we shall vote.
Marin, næstformand i Kommissionen. — (ES) Fru formand, jeg vil meget kort nøjagtigt præcesere ind holdet af mit indlæg, eftersom det er et politisk og dermed meget polemisk spørgsmål.
Mr Marin, Vice-President of the Commission. — (ES) Madam President, I shall be very brief, and since this is a political question, and consequently highly controversial, I shall be very precise in what I say.
Og den slipper afsted med det, fordi Rådets møder foregår privat i Bruxelles, så at flertallet af kvinderne i Fællesskabet aldrig hører om, hvad der sker på disse møder.
I was therefore amazed at the reply by the Commissioner, and I should like to hope that the Commission will instead take into account these amendments in the context of the programme's directives.
Alligevel mener jeg, at vi må give det vor helhjertede støtte og gøre vort bedste for at sørge for, at det bliver gennemført i Fællesskabet. bet.
A referral back to committee would appear to me totally wrong, not least because we have to bear in mind that, if the Council has to adopt all of that in June, it is as well that the Parliament should express its opinion now.
Kommissionen ønsker ikke at blande sig i problemer, der er forhandlingen uvedkommende, vedrørende en bedre eller dårligere tilrettelæggelse af udvalgets ar bejde.
The Commission does wish to become involved in questions beyond the scope of this debate, concerning the organization for better or for worse of the Com mission's work.
Det Kommissionen siger, er, at med hensyn til visse ændringsforslag er den ikke i stand til at optage dem i den endelige tekst, og grunden, fru formand, er, at der, som nogle af medlemmerne eller snarere de kvindelige medlemmer, der har haft indlæg, ved, fin des et konkret land, hvor der er truffet en konkret afgørelse af en forfatningsdomstol. Og dette er vel kendt.
What the Commission says is that it is not in a position to include certain amendments in the final text, the reason being, Madam President, as some of the Members, or more precisely lady Members, who have spoken know perfectly well, there is a particular country where a particular judgement has been made by a Constitutional Court.
Og jeg vil ikke her gå ind på en vurdering, da jeg ikke har kompetence hertil, om domstolen har ret eller ikke.
I am not going to make any judgements as to whether the Constitutional Court was right or wrong because, Madam President, I am not empowered so to do.
Jeg kan simpelt hen ikke tage et initiativ på dette område, da jeg ikke har juridisk kompetence — ikke fordi Kommissionen ikke er villig til at fremme kvindernes stilling, overhovedet ikke, men simpelt
I simply cannot make any initiatives in this area. This is because I have no legal competence — let me finish — and not in the slightest because the Commission is lacking in its commitment to help women.
Dette program bliver et våben i striden og kampen mod en regering, der har besluttet sig til at klare sig ud af krisen ved at ofre kvindernes beskæftigelse !
I thought you had respect for women, but I now see that this is not entirely the case.
(Forslaget til beslutning vedtoges) (Mødet udsat kl. 13.05 og genoptaget kl. 15.00)
President. — I think we have had a full discussion.
Jeg troede, De havde respekt for kvinderne, men jeg ser, at det ikke ganske er tilfældet.
We shall, therefore, now con tinue with the vote on the draft Council resolution, and on the motion for a resolution.
FORSÆDE: MANUEL MEDINA ORTEGA
Explanations of vote
Næstformand
(Mixed reactions)
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er fortsættelse af forhandlingen om Ciancaglini-betænk-ningen (dok. A2-7/86).
Mrs Cassanmagnago Cerretti (PPE), in writing. — (IT) Mr President, in expressing my vote in favour of the Vayssade report, I wish to emphasize the lines on which the programme of action in favour of women should be updated.
De skal vide, mine damer, at når man er hustru og moder i sit eget hjem, har man vigtigere ting at tage sig til end at lave mad; dér er man ansvarlig for sine børns opdragelse.
This action should tend increasingly to promote job opportunities for women, bearing in mind also the changes that are taking place in the jobs market: a special effort needs to be made in the field of new technology.
Cassanmagnago Cerretti (PPE), skriftligt. — (IT) Hr. formand, idet jeg stemmer for Vayssade-betænk-ningen, ønsker jeg at fremhæve det initiativ, der er taget til at ajourføre handlingsprogrammet til fordel for kvinder.
First of all, however, it is necessary to adopt the directives that are still pending on the question of equal treatment, and to complete these by guaranteeing absolute equality under social security schemes to men and women, regardless of marital status.
På klar og fuldstændig måde redegør han for de van skeligheder, som de ældre kommer ud for, og for de løsninger, der bør vælges med henblik på bedre integration af folk over 65 år, som antalsmæssigt udgør 14% af Fællesskabets samlede befolkning.
The United Kingdom Tory Government's response to this programme illustrates precisely this lack of politi cal will to guarantee women equal opportunities in our society.
Denne aktion bør sigte mod at åbne mulighed for, at er stadig større antal kvinder kan komme ud på arbejdsmarkedet, idet der også skal tages hensyn ti de ændringer, det for tiden undergår: følgelig må der udfoldes særlige bestræbelser inden for nye teknologier. gier.
It has proposed simply a few more places on a few training schemes, which is certainly not going to give women economic independence in the labour market.
Fremfor alt er det imidlertid påkrævet, at de direktiver inden for lige muligheder for mænd og kvinder, der stadig er under udarbejdelse, vedtages og kompleteres, således at man kan garantere den størst mulige ligebehandling af mænd og kvinder i forbindelse med de sociale sikringsordninger uafhængigt at den ægteskabelige stilling.
Mrs Dury (S), in writing. — (FR) That no Belgian, male or female, spoke in the debate does not mean that Belgium has no problems in the area of equality between the sexes, far from it.
Hr. Ciancaglinis betænkning er pragmatisk og fornuftig, uden dogmatisme og ideologi.
Our government in the United Kingdom has consistently blocked adoption of equality legislation.
Den har den fortjeneste at påpege nogle sandheder.
No wonder its knuckles are consistently being rapped by the Court of Justice.
F.eks. er det rart her i Parlamentet at høre, at det ikke er rimeligt, at mænd og kvinder alene skal behandles efter præstation, at de ældre bidrager med moralske værdier, der er uundværlige for vore samfunds ligevægt, at vi i stedse højere grad bør interessere os for overfald og aggressioner, som de ældre udsættes for.
And it gets away with it because Council meetings take place in private in Brussels so that the majority of women in the Community never get to hear about what happens in those meetings.
Ar sige alt dette er at lægge klarsyn for dagen og over for vore ældre at give udtryk for anerkendelse og troskab.
The majority of women never even knew there was a last action programme.
Det er også et udtryk for retfærdighed.
They will not know about this one.
Vi takker ordføreren og følger ham i hans forslag — ikke mindst hans forslag om at rette vore bestræbelser i flere retninger som alderspension, boligforhold og selvfølgelig social tryghed. hed.
Even so, I feel we must give it our wholehearted support and do our best to see it adopted in the Com munity.
Dury (S), skriftligt. — (FR) Skønt der ikke er nogen belgisk mand eller kvinde, der har deltaget i denne debat, er det ikke sådan, at lighed mellem kønnene ikke frembyder nogen problemer i Belgien, det er sik kert og vist.
All the measures introduced by the Government on unemployment benefits, access to employment, and vocational training are designed to discourage women from entering or staying in the world of work.
Alle disse bestræbelser er uundværlige, men vi mener også, at det er påkrævet at gå endnu videre og at understrege nogle betydningsfulde principper specielt i forbindelse med medlidenhedsdrab og straf af per soner, der overfalder ældre.
The Commission's programme and the measures taken by the European Community in the field of equal opportunities have become a necessity for women in the current climate of reversion to traditional values. We harbour few illusions about the scope of what they can achieve, but their chief merit is that they are available for use.
Medlidenhedsdrab er en forbrydelse, der under ingen omstændigheder kan være legitim.
(Applause from the benches of the Socialist Group)
På samme måde, som man sikrer det ufødte barns ret til at leve, på samme måde bør man fordømme eutanasi, der er et overgreb på naturen og en foregribelse af det enkelte menneskes skæbne.
This programme will be an instrument, a weapon, which can be brought to bear against a Government which has decided that sacrificing women's jobs is the way out of the crisis!
Alle de foranstaltninger, regeringen træffer med hen syn til fordelingen af arbejdsløsheden, adgang til be skæftigelse og erhvervsuddannelse tjener til at af skrække kvinderne fra at komme eller forblive i er hverv.
Mrs Lehideux (DR). — (FR) Madam President, I simply wish to say, although I believe I said so earlier, that my group will be voting against this report.
Vi gør os ingen illusioner om rækkevidden af disse ting, men det er godt, at de i det hele taget findes.
(The sitting was suspended at 1.05 p.m. and resumed at 3 p.m.)
Endvidere bør vi foreslå dristige foranstaltninger for at hjælpe de kvinder, der selv har opdraget deres børn og bidraget til deres lands og Europas udvikling, ved at muliggøre det for dem at få en alderspension, der beregnes på grundlag af antallet af børn og det antal år, som de har valgt at bruge i hjemmet for at opdragene børnene.
We should also bring forward bold proposals for measures to help women who have brought up their children and contributed to the development of their respective countries and Europe, by giving them the right to pensions calculated pro rata to the number of children they have brought up and the number of years they have spent — chosen to spend — at home so that they could attend to their children's educational needs.
Hr. formand, det er mange problemer forbundet med at gøre de ældres stilling tilfredsstillende i et retfærdigt samfund: økonomisk sikkerhed, social integration, som tidligere understreget, men også garanti for en tilfredsstillende bolig, sikkerhed mod aggression og vold, mulighed for let adgang til låntagning i nødstilfælde, m.m.
Mr Le Chevallier (DR). — (FR) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, although the Group of the European Right is occasionally somewhat critical in other con texts, we take pleasure today in congratulating Mr Ciancaglini for his report on the situation of old people in our Community.
Efter at have analyseret alle aspekter i problematik ken foreslår betænkningens forfatter indførelsen af det »europæiske charter for ældre«, hvor denne grup pes rettigheder anerkendes og beskyttes — den grup pe, der har skabt det fremskridtssamfund, vi i dag høster fordel af.
He gives an account which is both clear and complete of the difficulties that old people have to contend with and the measures which should be taken to bring about fuller integration of those of our people, men and women, who are over the age of 65, who account — it bears repeating — for over 14% of the total population of the Community.
Antallet af ældre i Fællesskabet stiger kun forholdsvis, fordi an tallet afunge er faldende.
It is only because the proportion of young people is falling in the Com munity that the proportion of old people is rising.
Husker De, at Alfred Sauvy for nylig udtalte: Tyskland er afgået ved døden, men ved det ikke endnu!
As you may remember, Alfred Sauvy said recently: 'Germany is dead, but she does not yet realize'.
Denne tragiske konstatering kun ne vi udstrække til at gælde for europa.
The same could be said, tragically, of Europe as a whole.
Rettes befolkningskurven ikke op — og det kan lade sig gøre — hvem skal så betale alderspensionerne og den sociale tryghed, der foreslås i betænkningen? Hvem skal for svare vore værdier?
If there is no upturn in the birth rate (and it is possible to do something about this), who is going to pay for the pensions and social benefits for old people proposed in this report?
Hvem skal give erhvervslivet dynamik?
Who is going to maintain the dynamism of our economy?
Hvem skal modtage de fremtidige udfordringer?
Who is going to meet the challenges of the future?
Afslutningsvis, hr. formand, kære kolleger, er det mit ønske, at denne i mange henseender positive betænkning vil give os mulighed for bedre at fat te den dødelige fare, som det faldende befolkningstal udgør, og at den vil foranledige os til hurtigst muligt at træffe effektive foranstaltninger til fordel for en resolut familie- og børneorienteret europæisk poli tik.
In conclusion, Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, it is my hope that this report will awaken us to the mortal danger that we are threatened with by our plummeting birth rate and prompt us to lose no time in taking effective action to promote European policies resolutely in favour of the family and a resurgence in the birth rate.
Man tænker på de ældre som en samfundsgruppe under en valgkampagne — deres stemmer tæller.
Mr Ciancaglini's report is pragmatic and sensible, without a trace of dogmatism or ideology.
Men når stemmerne er talt, er gruppen glemt.
It has the merit of rehearsing a number of truths.
Dens magt er lig nul: Hvordan kan man for eksempel strejke, når man ikke længere arbejder?
To have said these things is to have shown clarity of vision, gratitude and fidelity towards our elders, and also a sense of justice.
Europæere, ikke mindst europæiske kvinder: hvis I vil gøre noget nyttigt og samtidig glæde jeres forældre, så giv dem de børnebørn, de fortjener!
Europeans, men and especially women, if you want to play a useful part and at the same time bring joy to your parents, give them the grandchildren they deserve!
Det er fremtiden: (Bifald fra de europæiske højrepartiers gruppe)
(Applause from the benches of the Group of the European Right)
Antallet af er hvervsaktive borgere er faldet i forhold til antallet af ældre på grund af fremskridt inden for den offentlige sundhedssektor og deraf følgende højere levealder kombineret med en stagnation i fødselstallet.
While we agree that all this is essential, we feel that it is necessary to go further by setting forth a number of inviolable principles, notably on the subjects of euthanasia and action to stamp out violence against old people.
Betænkningens forfatter minder os om, at denne væket i den
Euthanasia is a crime and cannot be legitimized on any grounds.
Brok (PPE). - (DE) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, også jeg vil gerne takke ordføreren for hans udmærkede betænkning.
The report refers to the upsurge in crimes of violence against old people, but there ought to be a parallel call for the Member States to hand down exemplary sen tences to the evil people found guilty of such crimes,
Med henblik på en gennemførelse af det interne marked er det nødvendigt, at vi tillige skaber sammenlignelige levevilkår for menneskene i Det europæiske Fællesskab.
Mr Crespo (S). — (PT) Mr President, dear col leagues, the Ciangaglini report has seen demonstrated the very particular interest that the European Parliament takes in the question of old age pensions.
Det betyder naturligvis også, at de ældre mennesker, på hvis ydelser gennem et langt liv vi bygger, får en fornuftig andel i vel standsudviklingen i Det europæiske Fællesskab.
It is a problem whose contours are tending to swell in our modern societies.
Således skal navnlig de problemer ordnes, som hænger sammen med ældre menneskers pensionsindtægter og den fri bevægelighed inden for Det europæiske Fællesskab. lesskab.
In effect, the progress achieved in the field of public health and the consequent extension of life expectancy, as well as the stagnation in birth rates, mean that the proportion of retired old people in relation to the active population has been increasing.
Vi må være klar over, at vi i den forbindelse bliver nødt til at trække bestamte grænser, for at det hele ikke skal blive for urealistisk.
This trend towards ageing of the Community population obliges us, as our rapporteur reminds us, to give 'serious thought... to the role of social security sys tems and their adjustment to the changes taking place in the population structure'.
Af omkostnings- og mange andre grunde tror jeg ikke, at vi kan realisere en europæisk pensionsordning i morgen. Vi skal imidlertid på grundlag af de forskellige nationale pen sionsordninger garantere en sammenlignelighed mel lem levevilkårene og passende forudsætninger for en social udformning af den fri bevægelighed.
Thus it is becoming necessary to implement a package of priority measures in the field of Community social policy directed towards senior citizens, for which, in the next financial year, it will be indispensable to allow for the allocation of sufficient funds and credits — this is the first point in our colleague Mr Cinancaglini's motion for a resolution and it receives the support of the Socialist Group for this as for the other aspects of its proposals.
have påpeget traktatens muligheder for at gennem føre en fælles social aktion til fordel for de ældre.
We must realize that we have to set certain limits in this respect if we are to avoid becoming completely unrealistic.
Jeg mener, hr. formand, at det største problem for de ældre er ensomheden, som forværres i årenes løb og til ender i håbløshed.
For cost and many other reasons I do not believe we can introduce a European pension system overnight.
Man bør bekæmpe årsagerne til denne ensomhed og give de ældre sikkerhed og dermed mulighed for at leve normalt i det samfund, de befinder sig i.
But in view of the differences in the national pension systems we must ensure comparability of living conditions and lay appropriate foundations for a social form of freedom of movement.
Det forekommer mig, at der er tre bydende nødvendigheder, der er bestemmende for det heldige udfald af en kollektiv indsats.
Mr President, dear colleagues, the first duty of a democratic society is to ensure that its retired people have a decent standard of living.
For det første skal europæerne informeres om den skæve aldersfordeling, om uligevægten mellem antal let af erhvervsaktive og pensionister, om det vanvittige og farlige i en damagogisk sænkning af pensionsalderen som yderligere vil forværre denne uligevægt.
But a second duty, no less imperative, will be that of not marginalizing the aged population in a society which increasingly tends to isolate individuals.
Endvidere skal de ældre have oplysning om deres ret tigheder.
There is, then, a need to rethink the form taken by the transition from a working life into retirement and to ensure in various ways that the aged participate in the social and cultural life.
Samtidig må vi erkende, at den demografiske udvikling virkelig stiller os over for store problemer. I vore medlemslande beror pensionerne som regel på en generationskontrakt.
We must appreciate in this context that the population trend does indeed pose serious problems.
Den aktive befolkning skal tjene de penge, der danner grundlag for de ældre men neskers udkomme.
The working population has to earn the money to enable old people to live.