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Kommissionen siger, at der har været et usædvanlig stort antal ansøgninger om forudbetaling af restitution i en otte dages periode, hvilket har tvunget Kommissionen til at ændre sin indstilling for jeg ved ikke hvilken gang.
Does the Commission intend to take any compensatory measures in this connection ?
Det ville glæde mig, hr. formand, om Kommissionen var overbevist om nødvendigheden af at udvikle land bruget og opretholde den fælles landbrugspolitik.
Mr Clinton (PPE). — Mr President, I too regret the absence of President Thorn, but I am glad to see that Commissioner Dalsager has arrived.
Er det derfor ikke ved at være på tide, at vi for alvor begynder at overveje oprettelsen af et europæisk eksportagentur som krævet af vor gruppe i årevis, et agentur, hvori alle de parter deltager, der forstår sig på forretning, idet det er åbenbart, at bureaukrati og handel ikke går godt i spand sammen?
Fifthly, we agree with the Commission's decision temporarily to suspend certain advance payments — the 80% down-payment for exports.
Gauthier (DEP). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, man skulle tro, at vi overværede en vaudeville, dersom vi ikke vidste, at vi befinder os i en yderst alvorlig situation. Stykket er i flere akter.
This may impede the Community's export policy somewhat, but it will not bring it to a complete halt, and I therefore consider this emergency measure by and large to be the right course of action.
Hvad kan Kommissionens virkelige formål have været i hele denne sag?
Sixthly, I should like to ask the Commission how it went about this measure.
Er der tale om bevidst og beregnet manøvrering fra Kommissionens side for at øve pres på Ministerrådet, eller er der blot tale om en regulering eller en ordning parterne imellem? Hvis det sidste skulle være tilfældet, er det helt uacceptabelt for vor gruppe.
Although it had announced the suspension of advance payments, it obviously did not take the actual decision until later, with the result that, in the meantime, many people who know some thing about the agricultural policy, far from dragging their heels, cashed in by stocking up their warehouses and exporting goods.
Selv om Kommissionen bestrider det, er vi fristet til at tro det.
Can the Commission say what happened between the announcement and the actual introduction of the suspension of advance payments ?
Provan (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, det er let at identificere de mål, vi ønsker at nå, men det er ikke altid let at identificere de midler, hvormed man når dem. Meget ofte i Parlamentet ender det med, at vi er totalt uenige.
On behalf of my group, I wish to make it perfectly clear at the outset that we do not underestimate the problems facing every institution of this Community at the present time.
Han præciserede endog, at dersom Europa-Parlamentet ikke vedtog tillægsbudgettet for 1983 i løbet af første oktober-mødeperiode, så skulle det senest ske i løbet af den efterfølgende mødeperiode. For ud over det tidspunkt kunne Kommissionen ikke sikre udbetalingen uden tillægsbudgettet.
All sorts of rumours and speculations are circulating and we — the directly-elected Members of this Parliament — must be able to supply answers, reliable answers.
Dermed var landbrugskredsene beroliget og havde genvundet tilliden.
In recent weeks their confidence has been totally eroded, and we are expected to be able to reassure them.
Anden akt ti dage senere: kommissær Dalsager siger til pressen i Athen: »Der er ikke flere penge; vi er fallit, bankerot!« Formanden for Kommissionen dementerer energisk erklæringerne og desavouerer offentligt sin kommissær. Og nu bliver iscenesættelsen klarere.
How can we reassure them when statements and counterstatements are issuing from the Commission in rapid succession and at the highest level ?
Næste dag bekendtgør samme formand, hr. Thorn, at hans landbrugskollega har ret.
As a result, nobody seems to know from week to week where we are going.
Det er næppe nødvendigt at sige, at landmændene allerede da ikke anede deres levende råd og var mere end foruroligede.
Last week, that is to say, just a week later, another statement issued from the Commission to the effect that this suspension would be continued indefinitely but not longer than the end of the present year.
To dage senere: Kommissionen har genfundet sin harmoni.
The first assurance has not proved correct, and I hope the second one will.
Vi har her i Strasbourg været vidner til Kommissionens pinlige og forlegne, men dog harmoniske redegørelse.
If this goes beyond the present year, certainly it is going to do serious damage.
På et eller andet tidspunkt måtte boblen briste.
We need not worry about approving an increase in prices by 14% or 8% or whatever it may be.'
Erhvervet er imidlertid blevet forvirret over Kommissionens seneste beslutninger.
For years we Socialists have been saying that things cannot go on as they are.
Tredje akt: i Fællesskabernes Tidende af 12. oktober offentliggøres forordningen om seks dages suspensionen af forudbetalingerne af eksportrestitutioner for samtlige produkter samt af forskellige former for præmie og støtte.
They should have thought about this in the last few years. Even in April of this year, when Parliament debated agricultural prices, you still had time to change your minds.
Tæppefald uden bifald.
What did you do ?
Alligevel er det den fattige svine- og fjerkræindustri, der virkelig er blevet ramt, og som har fået at vide, at den ikke kan få skummetmælkspulver til foderbrug.
I immediately put them at ease when I said that I had come straight from this Parliament, where I had been given a categorical undertaking from the President of the Commission that this was a two-week suspension and that after that everything would return to normal.
For øjeblikket må det være en af de sektorer, der lider størst modgang.
I did this because I accepted what was said then and because I felt we had an experienced Commissioner in charge of the budget who had also
Er det mon ikke snarere en fortsættelse fra Kommissionens side af det politiske pres, for ikke at sige afpresning, med henblik på at få gennemført sine forslag til reform af den fælles land brugspolitik?
I certainly do not feel that I could face these people again and say, with any confidence, that I had heard anything from the Commission that I would be prepared to take a stand on.
Hr. formand, dette er spørgsmål, der vedrører nogle enkelte dele af landbruget.
This indecision is doing immense damage to the Community.
Skal de sidde og kigge på den forvirring i Europa, som Kommissionen har skabt?
The Commission should be in no doubt about that.
Nej, vi må sende dem hjem med tillid til, at vi i Europa-Parlamentet og Kommissionen vil styre erhvervet bedre og sikre, at den fælles land brugspolitik kommer ud af disse vanskeligheder, stærkere end den har været før. Vi kan kun gøre det, hvis vi rent faktisk har budgetmæssig kontrol over land brugspolitikken.
When President Thorn replies to this discussion — if indeed he is here, and I thought when I saw Commissioner Dalsager that he should be here — could he tell us, if it is not too much to expect to know, with only two months left of this year, where exactly we stand ; what exactly our commitments are ; whether we have sufficient money left in the budget to meet these commitments ; how much we have left in reserve chapters ; what appropriations are left over in other sectors, and whether these appropriations can be transferred to enable us to carry on our business in accordance with normal procedures ?
Maurice Martin '(COM). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil først og fremmest sige til hr. Delatte, der ser ud til at have glemt det, at landbrugsindkomsten i Frankrig siden 1974 for første gang er steget i 1982 med venstre ved magten.
The original proposal made by the Commissioner for Agriculture was for the suspension of certain payments until the end of the year.
Under højrestyret i Frankrig gik bøndernes indtægter uophørligt ned.
The Commission then revised that to a suspension for ten days.
Kirk (ED). — Hr. formand, jeg må sige, at Kommissionen har optrådt som en direktion, der bestyrer et fallitbo, men jeg vil gerne understrege, således at kommissær Dalsager ikke kan være i tvivl om det, at jeg ikke anser Fællesskabet for et fallitbo.
The implication of that revision was to say, 'look, the crisis is not as grave as you thought ; there is a matter of house-keeping, there is a question of cash-flow, but do not be panicked into thinking that it is the end of the world'.
Men jeg mener, at Kommissionen administrerer Fællesskabet på samme måde, som man administrerer et fallitbo, og med samme effekt ude i Fællesskabets befolkninger.
Yet, at the very time that decision was being taken to limit the suspension to ten days, it was quite clear that everybody in the Commission realized that it would have to be continued to the end of the year.
De mennesker, der er afhængige af den fælles landbrugspolitik og betalingerne hertil, har i dag fået mistillid til Fællesskaberne.
That is either malicious or it is naive ; in any case, it is extremely bad management and bad politics, because it creates a sensation of drift — of not taking deci sions.
De burde ikke have mistillid til Fællesskaberne, de burde alene have mistillid til Kommissionens forvaltning af Fællesskaberne.
The executive rôle of the Commission is one we all appreciate, but the executive rôle is to take deci sions and to take decisions quickly, decisively and in good time, and that is what we have not had.
Jeg vil gerne sige følgende: Parlamentet burde i virkeligheden drage konsekvenserne af den mistillid, der breder sig. Vi burde drage konsekvensen og stille det mistillidsvotum til Kommissionen, som vi har ret til på vegne af de 270 mio borgere, som vi repræsenterer i Fællesskabet.
The Commission has been put in the position of the young lady who proclaims that she is not pregnant, she is only partially pregnant.
For mit eget vedkommende skal jeg prøve på at indkredse problemenet.
When will that money be spent ?
Det er faktisk såre enkelt i løbet af et minut eller et halvt at sige grimme ting uden at gøre sig den ulejlighed at underbygge dem med beviser.
What happens if we were to find ourselves working on twelfths next year as a result of problems with the budget ?
Man kan godt slynge os ord som «bankerot» og «mismanagement» i ansigtet, det tager blot et par sekunder.
Can we have, as soon as possible in November when the advances for November are known, a statement updating us as to the payment and financial situation ?
Man behøver ikke engang at tænke sig om og ej heller at dokumentere noget.
What are the contingency plans for next year if we should find ourselves in a similar position next year ?
Efter flere timers usikkerhed, hvorunder dementier og bekræftelser vekslede, besluttede Kommissionen officielt den 12. oktober at suspendere forudbetalingerne i ti dage.
Nevertheless, I think the Commission should bear in mind that we have large stocks in intervention stores.
Første be mærkning: denne nølen kom i høj grad spekulanterne til gode.
Should these stocks not be moving faster ?
I øvrigt ville det være interessant, om Kommissionen kunne oplyse noget om omfanget af de beløb, der gik til spekulation. Der tales om over 50 mio ECU alene for den 11. oktober.
Are we deliberately slowing down exports in order to have money left over at the end of the year ?
Hvem taler om spekulation? sagde hr. Thorn til os for en fjorten dages sid siden.
The Commission should never forget that one of its very important responsibilities is efficient marketing management.
Tør De i dag, hr. kommissionsformand, stille det samme spørgsmål?
A stop-go policy does not work in marketing.
Nogle dage efter kommissionsformandens præstation over for forsamlingen indtrådte der en ny genopblussen: Kommissionen bekendtgør forlængelse af suspensionen af en række udbetalinger på ubestemt tid og supplerer forlængelsen med en serie restriktive forvaltningsprocedurer.
When we have gained a footing in a market we must hold it, and we can only do this if we are totally reliable in the delivery of our customers' needs.
Talrige produktionssektorer berøres heraf: mælk, vin, tobak, olivenolie, raps, solsikke etc. Kommissionen påstår at mangle bevillinger til at klare udbetalingerne indtil årets udgang.
Finally, the choice of measures that have been taken : are we likely to see those come round and round again, or will there be an attempt to spread the load, as it were, so that the people involved in trade, upon whom, after all, the producer depends for long-term markets, are not necessarily going to find these markets jeopardized by what we are told permanently is a series of improvised and temporary measures ?
Jeg skal derfor at respekt for forsamlingen og ikke mindst for dem, der ikke havde lejlighed til at høre mig sidste gang, prøve på at skitsere det, der skete i forrige måned.
So, Mr President, we do not doubt the rôle of the Commission or its ability to take that cole, but we are very, very concerned about its methods : the maximum of uncertainty, the minimum of decision.
Anden bemærkning: er det ikke i strid med Kommissionens forpligtelser og nylig afgivne løfter?
I wish also to say to the Commissioner that a lot of the sheep in the Community are produced by small farmers in the poorer areas.
Vedtagelsen af tillægsbudget nr. 2 for 1983 burde dog tillade Kommissionen inden for de ønskede tidsfrister at råde over tilstrækkelige bevillinger.
Can we not find sufficient money to pay at least the smaller farmers, or have they to wait until next year to be paid ?
Og nu vil jeg gerne citere hr. Thorns egen udtalelse på sidste møde i Strasbourg: Vi har, sagde formanden for Kommissionen, lukket kassen i ti dage, så vi kan få tid til at arbejde med problemerne.
If this is so, in my view it is the essence of bad management, especially when we are dealing with a product that is in deficit.
Tag Dem i agt, mine herrer i Kommissionen: når man beskæftiger sig med den slags problemer og laver sådanne krumspring, kan man risikere at falde på næsen.
If I appear to be overcritical I apologize, but it will perhaps help the President of the Commission to understand if I remind him that I represent a country that this year exported 45 % of its beef and 60 % of its live cattle to other countries.
Jeg kan ikke se, hvor Kommissionen skulle have gjort noget forkert.
Mr Curry (ED). — Mr President, Mr Provan will speak for my group.
Jeg mener, at ethvert medlem, der er inde i landbrugsproblemerne, ved, at vi i år har været ude for en omkostningseksplosion af grunde, som intet har med Kommissionens administration at gøre.
I wish to make one or two personal comments. You mentioned the fog, Mr President, and it seems to me that in this whole affair there has been a great deal more fog inside the building than there has been outside.
Vi har været stillet over for en omkostningseksplosion, som Kommissionen har forudsagt i årevis. Havde man fulgt vore og ikke andres forslag, så ville vi ikke befinde os i den foreliggende situation.
Mr Vitale (COM). — (IT) Mr President, whatever the budgetary considerations, understandable though they may be, which have led to the decision on the suspension of the EAGGF payments, one thing is certain : its suddenness has caused an upheaval in the market.
Hvad sagde jeg til Parlamentet i forrige måned?
The news that is reaching me from Italy is rather alarming.
Jeg sagde på sidste møde til Parlamentet: Mine herrer, det, jeg beklager, er, at vi lidt ubelejligt — det var en lille fejl — har måttet suspendere forudbetalingerne, idet det
For instance, wine-growers are holding back on bringing their crops for distillation ; oil merchants have
Thorn er vor pligt at klare årsskiftet med de midler, vi råder over.
Vitale sion has been taken to suspend refunds until the end of the year.
telser, som vi har indgået, og ikke at forudfinansiere folk, der vil foregribe en ændring af vekselskurserne ved årets udgang, og som prøver på at beskytte sig derimod og tjene på transaktionen?
There will be speculation, let us have no illusion about that, and I think it is a good idea for the Commission to be careful about this and, at all events, to avoid sudden decisions being taken without consul tation.
Synes De virkelig, at det er retfærdigt at mistænke os, og har vi ikke handlet som gode familiefædre ved at indstille ekspeditionen, da vi indså faren?
My impression is that, whether by accident or design, a picture has been presented of a Community on the brink of bankruptcy, with incertitude piled upon doubt.
Blot beklager jeg, at det skete på tidspunktet for Deres mødeperiode og for mødet i Athen.
Is the Commission aware of the financial cost of the present market stagnation ?
Senere har Kommissionen truffet de fornøde foranstaltninger i Fællesskabets interesse, foranstaltninger som ingen i denne kreds burde beklage, hr. formand.
Does it realize that, whatever the budgetary considerations which — I say again — may justify it, it has undermined confidence far beyond the period of two or three months envisaged and the sectors directly concerned ?
Samtlige forpligtelser over for producenterne bliver honoreret.
That, Mr President, is the heart of the matter.
Fordi nogle af den syntes, at det var bedre at tage avancen nu, at opnå fortjenesten på transaktionen flere måneder før dens gennemførelse.
They must not involve attacking the common agricultural policy every time we have a sitting — as we did this morning with the Arndt report.
Jeg mener ikke, at det kan være noget stort problem for Parlamentet, og det er det i hvert fald ikke for Kommissionen.
I think it is important to see the problem as it really is and I thank Mr Thorn for coming to join us because I should like him to answer this difficult question, as he did last time.
Nu tror jeg, hr. formand, at hr. Dalsager, hvad enkelt hederne angår, kan gøre det langt bedre end jeg; men jeg takker Dem for den opmærksomhed, De har vist mig.
I think, Mr Dalsager — and I am addressing myself to you, because it is your unconsidered statements that have provoked this anxiety — that this is the least that the Commission can do to recover its own and the Community's credibility.
De er bekendt med, hvordan Kommissionen arbejder, tillad mig at tilføje dette element.
I should like to add that the producing countries with agricultural surpluses are in a very small minority on this earth.
Imidlertid var nogle på dette tidspunkt i Strasbourg, nogle i Athen, andre i deres hjemland og andre igen i Bruxelles.
It is a political problem which it is important to study as a whole so that everyone can benefit.
Jeg mente, at en afgørelse af denne betydning ikke burde træffes af medarbejderne og ved en skriftlig procedure.
Lastly, I should like to tell Mr Gautier that he has no lessons to teach us here on the right.
Derfor beklager jeg, at beslutningen er blevet truffet på ubelejlig måde og har kunnet gøres til genstand for kritik, som De da heller ikke har sparet på over for os.
He said that the right had squandered and led us to squander Community funds.
Det tager vi ansvaret for.
So Mr Gautier has nothing to say.
Jeg sagde, at jeg beklagede, at de blev truffet den dag, De drøftede budgettet, og hvor vi var i Athen.
Mr Delatte (L). — (FR) Mr President, Honorable Members, this discussion reveals the need for permanent consultation between the Commission, the Council and Parliament.
Derfor havde vi tænkt på at udsætte dem til senere.
The subject is an important one.
Men det kunne ikke mere lade sig gøre, fordi spekulationen allerede var ved at begynde, hvilket var grunden til, at vi forlængede denne beslutning.
I, for one, regret that Mr Thorn has been unable to attend, although I see that one plane has already landed, as Mr Dalsager is with us.
Der har altså ikke kunnet foregå nogen virkelig spekulation på Fællesskabets bekostning, idet ekspeditionen var indstillet og foranstaltningerne opretholdt.
Perhaps Mr Thorn will be here in a minute, in which case I should like him to reply himself, as it was he who replied at our last part session to questions on this subject.
Og derfor vil vi også opretholde dem, lige så længe det er absolut påkrævet.
In my speech of 13 October, I said that the Commission statements had upset people.
Så spørger De mig: Hvad med landbrugernes tillid?
Mr President, I should like the Commission to be convinced of the need to develop agriculture and maintain the CAP.
Men vi opfylder alle vore forpligtelser.
This is something that is in the interests of all Europeans.
For november og december resterer der nu 2 396 mio ECU.
(Applause from the right).
Lad os se tingene i øjnene.
What happened ?
Jeg tror, at man i denne forsamling ønsker at berolige landmændene og ikke forurolige dem.
Everyone is saying that the problems are such that the Community will soon be unable to finance anything.
Hvad drejer det sig da om?
The decision to suspend refunds for a fortnight was taken.
Lever vi op til vore forpligtelser?
Questions were asked.
Det er i grunden, mine damer og herrer, et forskudsfinansieringssystem — ikke kun for 80 % vedkommende, men 100 %.
We got a guarantee that no other decisions would be taken — but today we are faced with a fait accompli and a deci
Til december er der herefter 1 088 mio ECU tilbage. Kommissionen vil derfor følge udviklingen i den finansielle situation for EUGFL, garantisektionen, meget opmærksomt og har desuden allerede truffet supplerende foranstaltninger for at undgå en overskridelse af bevillingerne.
Mr Gautier (DEP). — (FR) Mr President, Honorable Members, we might well think that this was a play house if we did not know that we were in an extremely serious situation.
Dalsager holde sig inden for loftet på 1 % eller ikke?
If it were, it would be totally unacceptable to our group.
Det vil jeg gerne have svar på fra Kommissionen, ellers er forhandlingen fuldstændig nytteløs.
Although the Commission claims the opposite, we are tempted to believe it.
Gautier (S). — (EN) Blot et formelt punkt, fru formand.
Mr Provan (ED). — Mr President, it is easy to identify the ends that we want to achieve, but it is not always easy to identify the means by which to achieve them.
Parlamentet besluttede at have en forhand ling på en time, så Parlamentet begrænsede sig til tre kvarter, og Kommissionen havde et kvarter til at svare.
Very often in this Parliament we finish up in total disagreement.
Jeg vil endvidere gerne påpege, at suspensionen er tidsbegrænset, idet den er fastsat til at vare senest til udgangen af 1983.
Act one : At the end of September, Mr Tugendhat honours the European Parliament's Committee on Agriculture with his presence and announces, unequivocally, that there are no budget problems attached to covering agricultural spending for the rest of 1983.
Hvis De ønsker at stille spørgsmål til kommissæren på et senere tidspunkt, er jeg sikker på, det lader sig arrangere, men jeg kan ikke tillade det på dette stadium i dag.
Act two : Ten days later, Mr Dalsager tells the press in Athens that there is no more money, only insolvency and bankruptcy The President of the Commission categorically denies the statements and publicly de nounces the commissioner.
Vi har jo allerede et meget omfattende punkt på dagsordenen, nemlig forelæggelsen af budgettet.
Things get clearer. The following day, Mr Thorn announces that his colleague in charge of agriculture is right.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er forhandling under ét om følgende betænkninger udarbejdet for budgetudvalget:
There is no point in saying then that the farmers no longer know which way — I nearly said to which commissioner — to turn, as they are more than worried.
Jeg vil gerne sige, at Kommissionen har valgt denne foranstaltning, da den hverken skader markedsstøttemekanismerne eller de i fællesskabsreglerne hjemlede rettigheder.
For a number of years now we have condoned the increase in prices granted every year by the Council, very often in advance of what the Commission had suggested, for the benefit of the agricultural industry.
Denne foranstaltning betyder en midlertidig suspension af en likviditetslettelse for visse modtagere af EUGFL-støtte.
We in the European Parliament have been well warned of the likely consequences of demands for too high an increase in prices.
Udbetalingerne bliver således forsinket nogle uger.
Some time the bubble had to burst.