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Det er sket i prispakken af i år, i to henseender: a) gennem nedsættelse af den generelle rente, og b) ved at bestemme, at hvad angår de medlemsstater, hvor renten ligger lavere end den gennemsnitlige ren te, som nu er 7%, bliver denne rente godtgjort af medlemsstaten. Jeg tror, at det er en rimelig løsning på dette problem.
I do not think it is realistic to think in terms of very large-scale social schemes which would enable us to get rid of the quantities we are talking about, because what it really does is ensure that the taxpayer pays instead of the consumer.
(') I forhandlingen indgik: — Mundtlig forespørgsel med forhandling af Maher m.fl. til Kommissionen (dok.
Mr Ulburghs (NI). — (NL) Mr President, the report by Mrs Hoff makes it only too clear that Europe will
Jeg har særlige spørgsmål i tilslutning til denne debat. Jeg tror, at fru Boserup vil være enig med mig i, at jeg i mellemtiden har besvaret hendes spørgsmål.
Mr Price (ED). — Mr President, I think it is time the Member States faced up to the true costs of the agricultural suplus stocks that they own.
Jeg har også et spørgsmål af det ærede medlem hr. Kolokotronis om som et led i fødevarehjælpen at stille tomater og andre produkter, der i øjeblikket eller på denne tid af året i navnlig den sydlige del af Fællesskabet tages ud af markedet, til rådighed.
I calculate that it would cost them over 9 billion ECU, in addition to the normal agricultural budget, to dispose of these stocks whether they are sold, given away or destroyed; and that figure is growing at an alarming rate.
Vi har tidligere drøftet det her i Parlamentet.
The public cannot any longer blame the EEC.
Woltjer vi sagt: den regionale udligning findes.
Ulburghs these figures?
I en række medlemsstaterne får De den ikke fjernet midt i et produktionsår.
Animals that spend their entire lives in boxes for the production of useless meat and milk products.
Men der er sket mere.
Why?
Hvis med lemsstaterne vil bevare den regionale udligning, lad dem så også nedsætte kvotaen.
So that EEC stocks can go on accumulating until it becomes impossible to pay for them any longer.
I grundforordningen har Rådet foretaget en ændring, nemlig en slags regional udligning, der i virkeligheden har medført, at effektiviteten af kvotaordningen er svækket.
quickly have to adopt a completely different agricultural policy if it is not to be overwhelmed by milk lakes and butter mountains and surpluses of cereals and beef and veal.
Hvorfor?
The figures are quite unbelievable.
Af den simple grund at de metoder, som man har brugt for at anvende denne re gionale udligning, har medført, at der ikke længere lægges tilstrækkeligt pres på landmændene, således at de ikke overskrider deres kvota.
Mrs Hoff can certainly take credit for having shown that the situation can only get catastrophically worse from one year to the next and will lead into a continuing spiral of senseless expenditure.
Kommissionen kommer nu med forslag om at gribe ind midt i produktionsåret 1986/87.
Stocks are all the time con tinuing to grow, and the longer they go on the harder they are to run down, because the money simply is not there.
Jeg tror, at Kommissionen med rette kommer til den konklusion — jeg finder det også godt, at jeg kan sige det på landbrugsudvalgets vegne — at situationen må løses, og at vi ikke kan vente til udgangen af dette produktionsår og begyndelsen af det næste. Der må allerede nu træffes effektive foranstaltninger; det drejer sig om hasteforslag, som Kommissionen siger.
In so far as we are still able to clear stocks at all, it has only been at the expense of major losses at the point of sale.
Jeg deler Kommissionens mening, at disse hasteforslag rent faktisk er nødvendige.
In the case of cereals it runs to between 12.4 ECU and 23 thousand million ECU.
Samtidig siger vi også : forhøj selve superafgiften.
Firstly, at the level of sales.
At man siger, godt, vi har vor kvota, og den må vi holde os til, for ellers bliver den afgift, som vi bagefter må betale, sådan at vi i virkeligheden vil lide store tab på denne merproduktion.
I support the view that priority must go to sales on the internal market to the socially disadvantaged members of the community.
Hvis man siger, at udligningen må væk, er det naturligvis endnu bedre. Men lad medlemsstater ne vælge.
I am against any form of charity, but since the stocks are actually there, the least favoured groups in society should be allowed to benefit from them.
Men oveni kommer forhøjelsen af superafgiften.
Secondly, in the context of food self-sufficiency in the developing countries, farmers there must be allowed to produce food for local consumption themselves.
To forslag, der egentlig er en variant til Kommissionens forslag, og som i virkeligheden angiver, at vi vil støtte Kommissionen i denne retning.
In that connection I am adamantly opposed to the proposal, as put forward by Mr Devèze, for a kind of neocolonial cooperation between the countries that supply us with raw material and minerals on the one hand and Europe on the other, which would give them our agricultural surpluses.
Kommissionen siger i sit forslag, at den vil udsætte interventionen.
I advocate a reorientation of food aid that will give a boost to triangular operations and valorization of local food products and practices.
Vi deler denne opfattelse og tanken bag den, og vi siger også i landbrugsudvalgets be tænkning, at det er absolut nødvendigt, at der lægges pres på bedrifterne, så der bringes mindre i intervention.
There must be much more in the way of direct income supports, whereby the small and environment-conserving producers would be entitled to priority treatment.
Men, siger vi, gør det så på en mere direkte måde over for bedrifterne selv.
And where products that increase the agricultural self-sufficiency of the EEC are concerned, there will have to be a reorientation.
I betænkninger finder De et system, et forslag om at gøre noget andet her, men også dette er kun en variant til Deres forslag, hr. kommissær.
Instead of exhausting agricultural land and condemning animals to an unnatural life, strict standards must be applied, the environment restored to its former condition and woodland areas conserved.
Vi gør Kommissionen endnu en gang opmærksom på, at det er af stor betydning, at kvotaen fremover nedbringes endnu mere, end det er tilfældet i disse forslag.
Only with a fundamental review of agricultural policy can the monies be released for a genuine social, regional and development policy in Europe.
Hr. formand, vi går ind for, at kvotaerne fastsættes på et reelt niveau.
Now, this situation would be acceptable in some degree if these thousands of millions were actually being spent to some useful purpose.
Omvendt siger vi også i denne betænkning, at det så er rimeligt, at landmændene får en god pris for deres produkter.
But here too unfortunately we have another example of the Matthew effect: 'For whosoever hath, to him shall be given; but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that which he hath'.
Når jeg alligevel retter kritik mod Kommissionen, er det ikke for at være negativ eller for at give en anden skylden.
The fact is that while some capital intensive groups are doing extremely well out of the billions that are being throwm around, the real target group, the actual farm ers, are in danger of becoming sacrificial victims.
Men jeg vil sige noget til Kommissionen i forbindelse med de foreliggende forslag.
Who really profits from these gigantic stockpiles and the billions that are needed to keep them in existence?
For et år siden udtalte Parlamentet sig udtrykkeligt mod den regionale udligning. Det kan De læse i min interimsbetænkning.
Why, the very agribusinesses that have soft-sold farm ers into modernizing at the cost of hard-earned money and a mountain of debt, and which control the inter national food market and market prices and use it as a basis for speculation.
De kan se, at vi allerede dengang henviste til, at denne regionale udligning kunne føre til en svækkelse af kvotaordningen. Og hr. kommissær, De reagerede også herpå.
As Mrs Hoff has pointed out, a whole set of parasitic undertakings operating in the storage business, together with an infernal bureaucratic machine, responsible for enormous waste of energy, as in the case of cold storage.
For De siger selv i Deres beretning, at der via den regionale udligning er frem stillet 1,5-1,6 mio t — lad os sige lVi% — for meget mælk, og der er sikkert kommet for lidt ind i superafgift i forhold til det, der var planlagt i de oprindelige forordninger.
Since 1973 productivity has risen by 50%, and now they are being swamped by taxes, and hundreds of thousands of small farmers are left broken-hearted when the inevitable happens and their farms go under and disappear without trace.
På landbrugsudvalgets vegne kan jeg sige, at vi for en stor del går ind for kommissionsforslagene, og jeg kan også tale for et stort flertal i landbrugsudvalget.
The erosion is on the increase everywhere in the world, and is leaving deep scars on the face of the countryside and in agriculture: 3.4 thousand million ECU on butter, 2.3 thousand million on beef and veal.
Remade for de landes vedkommende, der ønsker at bevare den.
We shall judge it by whether it puts them into practice.
Kommissionens forslag kan i højere grad kritiseres for undladelsessynder end for deres indhold.
The first significant course correction was in 1984, when there were already in storage almost 1 million tonnes of butter, our dearest and most expensive com modity, of which the greater part is still in store to this very day, and therefore virtually unsaleable on the market.
Der er intet om en bedre fordeling af produktionsmængderne mellem bønder, intet til at afskrække de mest moderniserede producenter; og endelig er der intet om, hvordan man samtidig kan få herredømme over importen, hvad enten det drejer sig om konkurrerende produkter eller om dem, der skaber øget produktion. tion.
It has to be said that during that period the Commission evaded many disputes over the organization of markets, and rejected many of Parliament's proposals, especially from the Committee on Budgets, even though this could have taken some of the pressure off the market organization in certain areas.
Men er det seriøst endnu e en gang at handle efter denne pro cedure over for Parlamentet?
First track: Management of existing stocks.
Vil man have os til at tro, at Rådet kun afventer Parlamentets udtalelse for at træffe sin beslutning? Lad os huske på, at mælkekvotasystemet er blevet iværksat ikke for en enkelt periode på fem år, men for fem perioder af et år.
The existing reimbursement scheme for storage of intervention stocks actually means that most Member States gain significantly from storage.
Sådan forholder det sig i dag.
We have two specific proposals:
Kommissionen har ikke taget en anden vej i betragtning, nemlig en omlægning, der går ud på at beskære de individuelle moderniseringsplaner.
It is not by chance that this report is an own-initiative report based on research by the Committee on Budgetary Control, not on what the Commission itself could have made available in this area in order to give some momentum to the common agricultural policy.
Hvorfor skal man opmuntre en producent til fuldt ud at gennem føre den fastsatte plan og således kraftigt forøge sin produktion til gengæld for et fællesskabsbidrag til finansieringen af de foretagne investeringer?
Although the Commission has pursued a different policy in recent years, I must warn against the delusion of saying now that this was all the fault of the previous Commission.
Enhver producent, der er i gang med et udviklingsprogram, burde kunne stoppe programmet, før det er afsluttet.
The new Commission also bears a full measure of blame for the developments which have occurred over the last few years.
Woltjer-betænkningen går i den rigtige retning.
Storage costs can sometimes run to as much as four times higher in one country than in another.
Vi vil støtte den, fordi denne betænkning angriber alle aspekter af mælkeproblemet.
A more liberal storage policy can lead to a lower ing of flat-rate reimbursement to the Member States; savings of about 100 million ECU should be possible.
Bocklet (PPE). - (DE) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, den mest påtrængende opgave for den europæiske landbrugspolitik er ud over fjernelsen af lagrene redningen af markedsordningen for mælk og sikring af en kvotaordning, som fungerer.
Secondly, the ones chiefly at fault are the Council of Ministers, and it is significant that neither a representative of the Council of agriculture ministers nor a representative of the finance ministers is taking part in today's debate.
Det betyder for det første, at der skal gøres alt for at hindre, at garanti mængderne overskrides, og for det andet at kvoterne om nødvendigt skal bringes nærmere den mængde, der kan afsættes.
Over the last few years, almost half a decade, the Council of agriculture ministers has blocked anything which could be called policy.
Det er imidlertid tvingende nødvendigt at få produktionen under kontrol, for det niveau, lagrene er nået op på, er uacceptabelt, og det eneste middel til at opretholde en garantipris er en sådan kontrol.
It has hesitated, delayed and substantially contributed to the fact that the Community has not only been exposed to financial damage amounting to billions, but has lost face to an extraordinary extent.
Spørgsmålet er selvfølgelig hvordan, dvs. hvem? Hvem skal anses for ansvarlig for overproduktionen?
We have to put this on record for all 12 agriculture ministers, it is not some thing that can simply be forgotten.
Drejer det sig om alle landmænd såvel om den, der f.eks. producerer 50 000 liter mælk om året, som om den, der producerer 500 000?
It all happened on the pretext of having a special policy for the farmers; but anyone who looks at the statistics knows that over this period agricultural incomes have been stagnant and in some sectors have fallen substantially.
Hvor finder man størstedelen af den europæiske mælkeproduktion?
In the light of this one has to ask what kind of policy was in fact being pursued.
Skal man i betragtning heraf for lange den samme indsats for at sænke produktionen fra alle landbrugeres side?
We have here a classic example of putting off a solution until a future date.
Alle ved, hvor let det er for en, der producerer 500 000 liter at nedsætte pro duktionen med 10%, medens det er vanskeligt for den, der kun kan producere 50 000 liter at nedsætte produktionen med 2%.
Far from relieving ourselves of the burden of the past we are storing up additional costs for the future, and the bill will of course have to be met by the tax payer.
Superafgiftens nuværende omfang gør det muligt for den større mælkeproducent i betydelig grad at over skride sin egen garantimængde og alligevel tjene pen ge, fordi hans driftsomkostninger er lave — De gør selv opmærksom på det i Deres dokument.
The majority of the motions are following the old ostrich policy of saying, we agree with the analysis, but we cannot agree about what is to happen in consequence.
Der bør ikke sættes spørgsmålstegn ved kvotaprincippet.
This report is a very painstaking analysis of the exist ing system.
Desværre bringer Kommissionens forslag, der især fokuserer på begrænsing af interventionerne og afskaffelse af kompensationsmekanismen, intet svar på problemet. Begrænsningen af interventionsopkøbene i den form, den foreslås, vil uundgåeligt medføre et fald i de priser, der betales til producenterne, samtidig med at de mængder, de kan producere, er underlagt kvotaprincippet.
Not all these proposals are new ones, but all these proposals together, if they were finally put into practice, could lead to a decisive change in the present system and they could prevent billions of damage in the future; and the damage which has already been incurred is going to cost us enough.
For mange af producenterne ville en ny nedgang i indtægten være dramatisk.
Third track, Mr President: Prevention of new stockpiling.
Med hensyn til udligningsordningen har de ganske vist kunnet bidrage til at forøge produktionen, men det er fortsat et uundværligt smidigt element i et kvotasystem.
The first and second tracks can only lead to a solution if effective measures are adopted without delay to prevent the formation of new stockpiles.
Af denne grund skal udligningsmekanismen absolut opretholdes, selv om der så skal korrigeres for dens mangler gennem en yderligere ned sættelse af den globale mængde, der kan produceres,
All our efforts will be completely in vain if we succeeded, by dint of long struggle, in pushing the problem out through the back door only to see it come strolling in again by the front.
Jeg håber imidlertid, at medlemmerne vil holde sig til de forordninger, vi har foran os her i eftermiddag.
Finally, Mr President, I am not happy with the charge of serious negligence levelled at the Com mission.
Det er en fornøjelse, som Parlamentet må ud sætte til en anden dag.
And, Mr President, is it not also fair to say that the European Parliament too lives, at least part of the time, in a glass house?
missionen og Rådet til at hæve superafgiften, indtil den sikrer, at kvoterne overholdes.
However, where I would disagree with the rapporteur is in some of the suggested methods for ensuring that we shall not continue to build up stocks.
Vi siger derimod kategorisk nej til enhver udsættelse af interventionsopkøbene af smør og skummetmælkspulver. Her mæ jeg korrigere hr. Woltjer.
Firstly, with regard to price, a greater reliance on market forces, as suggested in this report, would neither stabilize markets, assure the availability of supplies nor ensure that supplies reached consumers at reasonable prices, all of which are principles enshrined in the Treaty of Rome.
Udvalget vedtog da, at vi forkaster udsættelsen af eller ophør med interventionsopkøb af smør og skummetmælkspulver.
This is a highly significant report, and the rapporteur and the Committee on Budgetary Control are to be congratulated on the depth of the work they have brought before us today.
Jeg ved ikke, hvor han har den udlægning fra, han her fremkom med.
I hope that Parliament will be successful in adopting the report more or less in its present form.
Med visse forbehold støtter flertallet i min gruppe de forslag, der er kommet fra Kommissionen, og som søger som en katastrofeforanstaltning at tilstoppe hul ler i overproduktionens dige.
In fact, I am rather surprised to hear our colleague, Mr Wettig, criticizing the Commission to such an extent this afternoon, because it is the Council of Ministers who have to take the ultimate decision.
Jeg behøver ikke at belære en hollænder om nødvendigheden af at til stoppe huller i digerne.
In fact, any stock disposal programme in particular must be instituted as quickly as possible if we are not to waste even more taxpayers' money.
Kvoterne blev indført for at sikre priserne og dermed hundredtusinder af landbrugeres indtægter.
Agricultural incomes are already the lowest in the Com munity, and the gap is widening.
Kontingenteringen har kun mening, hvis priserne dermed holdes.
The net effect on production in the case of milk would be zero.
En sænkning af kvoter og af priser udgør en kombination, som ville betyde enden for hundredtusinder af landbofamilier, for slet ikke at tale om den skade, som kontingenteringspolitikkens troværdighed ville tage i landbrugernes øjne.
In the case of cereals and beef it would probably result in an increase in production.
Mange medlemmer af min gruppe er bekymrede over punkt 10 i betænkningen, som efter vores mening blot opretholder muligheden, smuthullet, for de med lemsstater, der ønsker at undgå at anvende kvota princippet fuldt ud.
I must say that I am deeply disappointed, in fact rather angry and annoyed, to discover that the Council of Ministers meeting only last week could not come to any clear decisions about the future supply of milk and milk products on to the market and how to go about disposal of some of the stocks we presently have.
Hovedbegrundelsen var netop, at man med indførelsen af kvoterne kunne sikre priserne og dermed en del af landbrugernes indtægter.
In the case of Ireland, this measure would be particularly damaging because of our excessive dependence on dairying and our very small home market.
Vi bør ikke midt i et produktionsår foretage tungtvejende indgreb i markedsordningen, men benytte næste års for handlinger om landbrugspriserne til en principiel korrigering af markedsordningen for mælk, som skal realisere tre mål.
I must further question, in the light of that decision in the Council, the attitude of the Council of Ministers to the Commission and the Commission staff itself.
For det første en konsekvent anvendelse af kvoterne, for det andet en tilpasning af kvoterne til afsætningssituationen og for det tredje en sikring af landbrugernes indtægter.
Surely the Commission is responsible for coming for ward with the ideas, and it has come forward with basic ideas in the past.
Det be tyder, at interventionsopkøb af smør og skummetmælkspulver bibeholdes i fuldt omfang, og at mælkekvoter kun kan ophøre mod en tilsvarende kom pensation, som dog absolut kan gradueres efter den til enhver tid værende produktionsmægde.
If it were given the mandate, I would have thought that the management techniques within the Commission could cope with the situation we have, provided, of course, it is also given the adequate funds needed to actually dispose of the surpluses that we have.
Simmonds (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, må jeg begynde med at ønske Dem velkommen i formandssædet og udtrykke ønske om, at alle de møder, hvor De fører forsædet, må blive üge så rolige som dette.
As I say, most of the matters have been discussed this afternoon. I hope Parliament will support this very excellent report.
Efter vores opfattelse kan man ikke blot i det uendelige blive ved med at føre en politik, der gennem omfattende finansiering opretholder en produktion, der ikke er noget marked for, og som er bestemt til destruktion.
This can be done by Member States allowing the Commission to borrow the necessary funds on the Euro-bond market, these to be redeemed in 1990-92.
Woltjer-betænkningen forekommer os at være orienteret mod at give nye svar på problemet vedrørende
Mr Raftery (PPE). — Mr President, I am entirely in agreement with the general thrust of this report in that the level of stocks at the present time is too high, too costly and politically and economically indefensible. I
De bemærkninger, jeg fremkommer med her i efter middag kan blive yderst korte, for det, jeg sagde om den foregående betænkning, gælder også for denne.
Only a bold and imaginative step of this kind can get us out of the dangerous and damaging situation we are
Rossi forbruget svarer til.
Raftery in because of surpluses.
Det enkle svar på det er selv følgelig af nedsætte denne mængde.
After that we must ensure, as many speakers said, that surpluses do not occur again.
Jeg vil altså hen stille til Kommissionen — og jeg håber, det vil blive fulgt op af Rådet — at man simpelthen nedsætter den kvoterede mængde.
should be levelled solely and exclusively at the Com mission and the Council, and not — at least by a quite substantial number of Members — also at Parliament itself.
Men jeg håber, at man kan have så meget overblik over tingene, at man kan vente med at gøre det, til det sker i forbindelse med det produktionsår, der begynder til næste år.
If we are responsible for what is now happening in agricultural policy in Europe, then I think we have to speak in terms of a shared responsibility. In that sense I am prepared to take my own share of responsibility.
Dette for slag indeholder en vigtig nyhed, idet man foreslår at give interventionen dens oprindelige rolle tilbage som et element til regulering og kontrol af markedsbevægelserne og ikke som nu, hvor den blot tjener til løbende at kunne afsætte produktionsoverskuddene.
The restrictions placed on the use of that for com pounders have been so severe that compounders were unable to use this commodity.