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Jeg vil derfor bede Dem, hr. formand, være så venlig at spørge os hver især og Parlamentet som sådant, om der ingen indvendlinger er, eller om der er nogen, der ønsker at tage ordet i forbindelse med den handling, vi skal udføre.
I would thus ask you, Mr President, to ask each of us and the House as a whole if there are any objections or if anyone wishes to speak on the vote we have to take.
Vi har alle være vidne til en begivenhed, som må betegnes som højst dramatisk.
The judges in my country, I know, are the first to be offended and oppressed by those who all too often pretend to speak in their name but harm their image and their lives every day — lives made difficult by the political class in power.
Jeg tror ikke, at forretningsordenen forhindrer os i at tage ordet under sådanne omstændigheder; det, at den ikke in deholder bestemmelser herom, betyder ikke, at den forhindrer det.
For them, too, and with them, we must tread this hard and narrow path, and to them goes my declaration and our declaration, too, of res pect and trust.
Jeg tror i øvrigt, at der er nogle blandt os, der ønsker at fremsætte et par bemærkninger, Hvad angår mig selv, har jeg allerede gjort det: jeg takker hr. Tortora for den beslutning, han har truffet.
The President of the Italian Republic, Francesco Cossiga, has already given us an example a few days ago. Speaking in the first person he made his position clear, denouncing the abuse of constitutional powers, functions and roles which are used as a pretence.
Jeg mener virke lig, at den vej, han har valgt at gå, er ærens og rettens
And what was the answer given to the President of the Republic, Italy's chief judge?
Selva (PPE). - (IT) Hr. formand, selv om de ideer, jeg tror på, adskiller sig meget fra hr. Tortoras ideer, ligger det mig i denne situation på sinde at takke ham
President. — Mr Pannella, I note your remarks but I must adhere to Rule 7(3) of the Rules of Procedure. Under this rule, 'A Member's resignation shall be notified by him in writing to the President, who shall inform Parliament, which shall establish that there is a vacancy.
Selva for de bemærkninger, han netop har fremsat.
There shall be no vote in Parliament on the subject'.
Tomlinson (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, det er ikke nogen hemmelighed, at de britiske labour-medlem-mer ikke kan støtte budgettet for 1986, ligegyldigt hvilke ændringsforslag der bliver vedtaget.
fight against terrorism. I think, however, that this practice — if extended and applied to any other form of crime beyond even the scope of this law — establishes an 'unjust' form of justice.
Resten skal dække alt det øvrige med yderst ringe hensyntagen til de spørgsmål, der optager borgerne i Europa, nemlig økonomisk vækst, kampen mod arbejdsløsheden, ordentlig bistand til den tredje verden og behovet for industriel fornyelse.
Let those of us who are for a just form of justice — as I believe all of the citizens of Europe who sit in this Parliament are — draw a lesson from Mr Tortora's gesture also, so that this form of justice may be increasingly in the ascendant. ant.
Vi, der er for en »retfærdig« retfærdighed, hvilket jeg tror alle de europæiske borgere er, der sidder her i Parlamentet, vil tage ved lære af hr. Tortoras gestus, således at denne retfærdighed i stigende grad kommer til at gælde.
The decision of course is in your hands, Mr President, but I merely wanted to recall that point.
Men til trods for at budgettet som helhed er utilstrækkeligt, og til trods for at de britiske labour-med-lemmer vil stemme imod det, har vi accepteret to af Parlamentets vigtigste mål for 1986budgettet.
President. — I should just like to say in passing that it is true that the agenda does not provide for a debate on Mr Tortora's resignation.
Vi har accepteret, at der skulle skaffes fuld dækning for de traktatmæssige forpligtelser i forbindelse med ud videlsen, og at det er nødvendigt at sikre, at de strukturelle fonde kan virke ordentligt.
But, as you have seen, I have already allowed colleagues to intervene and I shall give the floor to others who wish to speak.
Formanden. — Jeg vil bryde ind her og sige, at ganske vist hjemler dagsordenen ikke nogen forhandling om hr. Tortoras nedlæggelse af sit mandat.
I originally had serious reservations about our colleague, Mr Tortora's, decision, but after what I have just heard, after the sincere moral sentiments that have been expressed here, I should like to thank him on behalf of all of us for his decision to return to his country to fight for justice.
Men under alle omstændigheder har jeg, som De ser, allerede givet ordet til nogle medlemmer, og jeg vil også give det til andre.
It is an action worthy of him as a Member of the European Parliament, and he goes with our best wishes and the hope that we shall meet again soon.
Nino Pisoni (PPE). — (IT) Jeg skal ikke lægge beslag på meget af Parlamentets tid, hr. formand; men ingen bestemmelse i forretningsordenen kan forhindre no gen af os i at udtrykke vores solidaritet med og vores store respekt for hr. Tortora.
Mr N. Pisoni (PPE). — (IT) I shall not take up, Mr President, very much of the Assembly's working time; but no Rule of Procedure can prevent each one of us from expressing solidarity with Mr Tortora, and great respect for him.
Det er modigt af ham på denne måde »uden sikkerhedsnet« at udfordre det italienske retsvæsen med alt det, denne gestus kan indebære; og det er, som hr. Selva netop sagde,uden tvivl en ædel handling.
To challenge the Italian system of justice, with all that that gesture may involve, and without the benefit of a 'safety net', is an act of courage; and it is undoubtedly a noble lesson, as Mr Selva said a few moments ago.
Jeg vil gerne støtte hr. Tortoras modige gestus med den solidaritet, der ligger i de ideer, jeg repræsenterer, og som er dybt kristne og i denne stund forbinder os, også selv om vi i vores politiske liv nogle gange er gået hver sin vej.
I want to accompany Mr Tortora's courageous gesture with the solidarity of the ideas that I represent, which are deeply Christian and which, at this moment, bind us together, even though we have sometimes been on different sides politically. itically.
Kære Tortora jeg står dig personligt nær, og det vil jeg også gøre i de kommende dage, hvis det italienske retsvæsen åbner fængslets døre for dig, med al den solidaritet en kristen broder er i stand til at vise en sand ven.
My dear Tortora, I am close to you personally, and shall be even in the days to come — if Italian justice opens its prison doors to you — with all that solidarity that a Christian brother can bring to a true friend.
Almindeligt budget for 1986 (fortsættelse)
General budget for 1986 (continuation)
For det første »fleksibilitet« — det er, hvad Rådet kræver af Kommissionen. Hvad går den ne fleksibilitet ud på?
Mr Selva (PPE). — (IT) Mr President, although the ideas that I believe in are very different from those of Mr Tortora, under the present circumstances I very much want to express my thanks to him for the state ment that he has made to us.
Det er en totalt uacceptabel opfattelse af fleksibilitet for medlemmerne af den britiske
This is, I think, a battle that unites all of those who believe in freedom, and the rule of law, independently of the merits of the questions on which Mr Tortora has been called to answer to the courts.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er fortsættelse af forhandlingen under et om forslag til De europæiske Fællesskabers almindelige budget for regnskabsåret 1986 som modificeret af Rådet.
Mr Tomlinson (S). — Mr President, it is no secret that British Labour Members cannot support the 1986 budget, however it is amended. We cannot support it because of the obscene inequity between its provisions for agriculture and those for the rest of the people of Europe.
Tomlinson mer i Fællesskabet, så derfor må vi gribe til politiske beslutninger.
Tomlinson ment, proper assistance to the Third World, and the need for industrial reconstruction.
labour-gruppe, og det håber jeg også, det er for med lemmerne af Parlamentet, der var så modige for blot en måned siden.
Christmas spirit that I can muster, I would not value a guarantee from some of his colleagues much more highly than I value the special offers I receive from the Readers Digest.
Jeg tror, at vi først og fremmest bør se på vore metoder til at skaffe os indtægter, så at de i langt højere grad, end det nu er tilfældet, kommer til at svare til betalingsevnen.
I accept that the pressure of this House has forced progress on the cost of enlargement. But I am not pre pared to see this advance at the expense of the proper operation of the structural funds where the existing 10 Member States are concerned.
Og for det andet bør vi over et længere tidsrum se på, hvordan vi kan få mere fornuft i den måde, vi anvender Fællesskabets udgifter på.
In this context, I have to say quite clearly to Mr Curry, in the light of what he said to this House this morning, that I and my colleagues did not support the Fontainebleau mechanism for dealing with the United Kingdom rebate in any expectation of a reduced significance being attached to the Social and Regional Funds by the United Kingdom Government.
Bliver der ved de igangværende for handlinger presset endnu mere på for at få disse til lægs- og ændringsbudgetter?
We accepted that the costs of the Treaty obligations for enlargement should be met in full and that the pro per operation of the structural funds needs to be ensured.
Og vi kender det standpunkt, Parlamentet indtog sidste år om, hvor vigtigt det var, at vi havde et havde et årsbudget.
We even thought there was a chance of this House getting away from its near constant whining about its powers and actually using effectively the powers it already has.
Det er i sig selv ved at udvikle sig til en tvingende grund til forkastelse af budget tet.
Therefore, when my motion for global rejection was defeated at the first reading, I and my colleagues joined with this House in supporting Amendment No 640, thus ensuring that there were no votes against it.
Med den bedste vilje af verden over for Rådets formand, og med alt det julehumør jeg kan mobilisere, kan jeg ikke vurdere en garanti fra visse af hans kolleger højere end de reklametilbud, jeg får fra Det Bedste.
Failure by this House to do so will only encourage the irresponsibility of the Council next year — a year in which the presidency during the secong half may not need too much encouragement to be irresponsible on its own account.
Dette er efter min mening et udtryk for, hvordan Rådet af budgetministre opfører sig.
What do we find barely a month later?
Det forekommer virkelig besynderligt, at vi faktisk kan blive stillet over for et sådant spørgsmål.
We find talk of compromise when we have already compromised on the Commission's preliminary draft budget.
Det drejer sig her om forpligtelser, som Rådet har påtaget sig, og de forfalder til næste år.
We have moved towards a Council draft which had a clearly illegal first reading.
Men hvert ene ste år ser det ud til at skaffe Fællesskabet nogle helt urimelige problemer på halsen.
My colleagues regard those basic principles as not open to compromise.
Jeg anerkender, at pression fra Parlamentet har fremtvunget fremskridt med hensyn til omkostninerne ved udvidelsen.
The first was expressed by the rapporteur as the need to achieve fiscal neutrality for Spain and Portugal.
Men jeg vil ikke affinde mig med, at disse fremskridt skal ske på bekostning af struktur fondenes effektivitet for de ti nuværende medlems staters vedkommende.
It struck me, as he was saying that, that our Community budgetary system is defective in that we do not have mechanisms to achieve this sort of thing more or less automatically.
11 den forbindelse må jeg sige meget klart til hr. Curry, i lyset af hvad sagde til Par lamentet i formiddags, at jeg og mine kolleger ikke har støttet Fontainebleau-ordningen vedrørende Det forenede Kongeriges rabat i forventining om, at Det forenede Kongeriges regering skulle lægge mindre vægt på socialfonden og regionalfonden.
If we look at the Member States, we see that they raise revenue where there is ability to pay and expenditure at Member State level goes in the direction where there is the greatest need. Yet we do not seem to have similar mechanisms in the Community so we have to resort to political decisions.
Det andet, der slog mig under forhandlingen i for middags, var, at nogle medlemmer simpelt hen ikke vil se den kendsgerning i øjnene, at vi ikke lever i den bedste af alle mulige verdener, men i den virkelige verden.
But besides the talk of compromise, what are the words and phrases now appearing in this discussion?
Vi ved, at vi har kæmpet med Rådet for at få det til at se Fællesskabets behov for næste år i øjnene, og vi ved, at vi har fået det til at gå et stykke; men det er nu klart for enhver, der vil udvise politisk realisme, at vi ikke får det til at gå hele vejen.
Flexibility means that the Council is demanding from the Commission that advances be cut and payments postponed for the European Social Fund and the European Regional Development Fund.
Jeg mener, at Parlamentet må forhandle på en sådan måde, at vi får de bedst mulige garantier for dette tillægsbudget ud af Rådet, fordi det er uundgåeligt.
That is a totally unacceptable view of flexibility for Members of the British Labour Group and I hope also for Members of this House who had so much courage only a month ago.
Jeg og mine kolleger vil derfor ved andenbehandlingen støtte de principper, som vi alle udråbte til fundamentale principper ved førstebehandlingen.
I think we ought to be looking, first of all, at our method of raising revenue so that it reflects the ability to pay to a much greater extent than it does at the moment.
Hvis Parlamentet undlader at gøre dette, vil det blot op muntre Rådet til uansvarlighed næste år — et år hvor formandskabet for andet halvår næppe behøver me gen omuntring for selv at vise sig uansvarligt.
And secondly, over a longer period of time, at how we can achieve greater sense in the way we apply Community expenditure.
Kommissionen har ikke i sine beregninger taget hen syn til forøgelsen af antallet af medlemsstater fra 10 til 12.
Are current negotiations add ing yet more pressure for these supplementary and amending budgets?
Det mener jeg der burde have været taget hen syn til, for den maksimale stigningstakt omfatter så dan noget som forøgelsen af bruttonationalproduktet inden for Fællesskabet.
Have we not reached a stage that the annuality of the budget itself is being compromised; and we know the view the House took last year concerning the imperative of annuality in our budget.
Hvis det var sket, ville det muligvis have reduceret nogle af de problemer, vi står overfor.
It is fast becoming a compelling reason in itself for a rejection of the budget.
Price (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, under forhandlin gen i formiddags var der i realiteten to hovedspørgsmål.
Then Mr President, comes the talk about guarantees.
Det første formulerede ordføreren som nødvendigheden af at opnå fiskal neutralitet for Spa nien og Portugal.
With the best will in the world to the person of the President-in-Office of the Council and with all the
Hvis vi ser på medlemsstaterne, ser vi, at de skaffer sig indtægter, hvor der er betalingsevne, og udgifterne på nationalt plan går i retning af de største behov.
The other issue raised was whether the Council will agree to authorize money in order to meet commit ments legally entered into which will fall due next year.
Men det ser ikke ud til, at vi har lignende mekanis
That, it seems to me, is a reflection of how the Budget Council conducts itself.
somhed i tal? Jeg mener, at vi bør stå fast på, at de tal, vi skal forhandle om med Rådet, må give en garanti for, at førnævnte mål kan nås.
They will fall due next year.
Rådets repræsentant spurgte os, om vi var villige til at forhandle.
We are actually having to discuss whether we should put the money on the line to meet them!
Jeg mener uden videre at kunne bekræfte, at Parlamentet altid har vist vilje til at diskutere og for handle med Rådet, og at det agter at følge samme kurs også i år.
There ought to be some discussion outside the Budget Council as to how that particular Council conducts itself.
Men det må være klart, at det, man har foreslået os, kun er nok til at dække halvdelen af behovet.
It does not seem to reflect the decisions taken by the other arms of the budgetary authority.
Og det er om dette, vi skal forhandle med Rådet på basis af konkrete tal og ikke på basis af vage erklæringer.
Each year it seems to land the Community with problems which are really quite disproportionate.
Og det, hr. formand, er ikke blot en personlig opfattelse, men en overbevisning, budgetudvalget er nået frem til efter en grundig analyse af de tal og vurderinger, det var blevet forelagt af Kommissionen.
arrived at after a detailed analysis of facts and figures and assessments that were provided by the Commission itself.
Jeg vil hermed sige, at vores førstebehandling ikke er blevet gennemført i et tomrum på basis af tågede fingerpeg, men på basis af tal der er blevet udregnet til sidste detalje i en sådan grad, at de tal, som Kommissionen havde betegnet som et uomgængeligt minimum, sågar blev nedskåret af os i et forsøg på at anlægge en realistisk betragtning og samtidig indlede en dialog med Rådet.
I wish to say that our first reading was not constructed in a vacuum on the basis of hazy indications, but was based on figures that were worked out down to the bare bones — so much so that the figures which the Commission itself said were the indispensable minimum were even cut by us in an endeavour to be realistic and — let us add — in an endeavour to talk the same language as the Council from the outset.
Jeg vil derfor slutte med at gentage : naturligvis er vi villige til at forhandle, men ikke på enhver betingelse, kun på det eneste mulige grundlag som kræver, at Fællesskabets strukturfonde sættes i stand til at fungere på korrekt vis næste år.
And this naturally, Mr President, concerns not only two new Member States who will form part of the Community from January onwards, but also the other 10 members.
Guermeur (RDE). — (EN) Først vil jeg gerne gratulere vor ordfører, hr. Christodoulou, som har været i stand til at klare en særdeles vanskelig opgave, endog væsentligt mere kompliceret end hans forgængeres.
The other thing that struck me in the course of the debate this morning was that some Members are sim ply not prepared to face the fact that we do not live in the best of all possible worlds but in the real world.
På den anden side, hr. formand, vil jeg gøre opmærksom på, at den kendsgerning, at Rådet har set sig nødsaget til at sige, at det under alle omstændigheder vil være nødvendigt at se på den finansielle situation igen om et par måneder, for mig at se blot er endnu et bevis på, at Rådet selv er klar over, at vi med de tal, det i dag foreslår, risikerer, at de to fonde — eller snarere de tre fonde, nemlig socialfonden, regional fonden, men også EUGFL, udviklingssektionen — bliver blokeret i deres virke fra begyndelsen af næste år.
At this stage in the budgetary procedure Parliament's powers are limited by the Treaty, by the provision that there is a maximum rate of increase. We know that we have battled with the Council to get them to face the needs of the Community for next year and we know that we have got them to go a certain distance, but it is now clear to anyone who is prepared to be politically realistic that we are not going to get them to go the whole way.
Og det gælder naturligvis ikke blot de to nye lan de, der indtræder i Fællesskabet fra januar, men også de andre ti medlemmer.
The situation now is that there will have to be a supplementary budget next year.
Jeg vil også gerne prise den gode vilje, Kommission en og Rådet har udvist ved at åbne en dialog, og jeg synes, man bør glæde sig over udsigten til, at Rådet foretager en tredje behandling, hvilket er usædvanligt. ligt.
I think this Parliament has got to negotiate in such a way that we get the best possible guarantees out of the Council for that supplementary budget because it is inevitable.
Imidlertid, hr, formand, afslører det te budget en degradering af den politiske vilje til at skabe et fælles Europa.
The Commission has not taken into account in their calculations the increase in the number of Member States from 10 to 12.
Det første element i denne degradering er begrænsningen af ressourcerne.
I believe it should have been taken into account because the maximum rate involves such things as the increase in the gross national product within the Community.
Efter fastsættelse af et urealistisk loft for den moms, der kan udnyttes af Fællesskabet, har medlemslandene i år ikke gjort brug af den margen, der var blevet til budt.
The Community is about to increase from 10 to 12 in the period concerned and that, in my view, should have been taken into account.
Men værre endnu, som hr. Pasty, også pegede på for lidt siden : niveauet er endnu lavere end i 1985.
If it had been, some of the problems we face might have been reduced.
Det europæiske Råd havde allerede accepteret at give afkald på legitime ressourcer ved at træde ind på den farlige vej at udstede en blankocheck til Storbritannien, den fulde modydelses farlige vej.
Mrs Barbarella (COM). — (IT) Mr President, in pre paring Parliament's second reading of the draft general budget, I think that what we have to be guided by is our assessment of how far the Council's reading meets or fails to meet the basic objectives that Parliament laid down in its first reading.
Det går endnu videre i år. Det forelægger os et budget, der med overlæg er beskåret for de til de indgåede forpligtelser nødvendige midler.
I think that we have all of us, on the Committee on Budgets, checked that the figures that the Council proposes in its second reading — which, as we all know, is in reality only a first reading — are absolutely inadequate to provide us with a guarantee that the structural funds can function correctly in 1986.
Jeg mener ikke, at det er nødvendigt her at afsige en dom over grundene til, at de regeringer, de ministre, der har taget disse beslutninger, er blevet presset til det.
I do not think it is necessary now to assess the reasons motivating the ministers who took these decisions.
Grundene er mangfoldige, men jeg vil godt gen tage, at de ikke skal være genstand for diskussion her.
There are a great many reasons and, I say again, they are not the subject of our present discussion.
Jeg vil blot minde om, at finansministrene med den ne holdning går direkte imod det, andre ministre og regeringschefer beslutter på samme tid i et andet forum; jeg henviser her til det forhold, at det i for slaget til reform af traktaten entydigt siges, om end med utilstrækkelige begreber, at der er behov for en nord-syd-ligevægt, og at det følgelig naturligvis er nødvendigt, at strukturfondene fungerer på en om ikke væsentligt styrket, så dog passende måde.
I should only like to remind you of the fact that, by acting in this way, those same Finance Ministers are contradict ing what other ministers and Heads of Government are deciding at the same time elsewhere; I am referring to the fact that in the proposal for reform of the Treaty the need is spelt out very clearly — albeit with out sufficient deadlines — for the North-South balance to be re-adjusted, so that obviously, therefore, the structural funds must at least be operating adequately, if not substantially strengthened.
Vi er derfor stillet over for absolut abnorme holdninger, som det er meget vanskeligt at forstå.
We are faced, therefore, with totally abnormal behaviour that is difficult to interpret.