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Jeg kan ikke give et præcist svar på det præcise spørgsmål, som det ærede medlem har rejst, skønt vi helt afgjort omhyggeligt har studeret de arrangementer, som hr. Van Eekelen har fået sat i gang under det nederlandske formandskab.
The Council informs the European Parliament of its positions under the conciliation procedure and will do so in the framework of the cooperation procedure when the provisions laid down in the Single European Act come into effect.
Jeg me ner, det er vigtigt, at vi leder efter metoder til at udvide kontakten mellem disse to fællesskabsinstitutioner. tioner.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — Far be it from me to mount an outright challenge to the case outlined in the White Paper and remade by the honourable Member.
Her i formiddag har Parlamentet vedtaget Linkohrbetænkningen om bioethanol. og jeg er bange for, at den begunstigelse, man giver TBA, på forhånd skal føre til en urimelig nedprioritering af forskningen i bioethanol.
Having made that acknowledgment, so far as it goes, I do not retract my earlier point that this is an area which involves very substantial practical problems for Member States which have to be set alongside those to which the honourable Member has referred.
Van Aerssen (PPE). — (NL) Hr. rådsformand, Deres svar var allerede nu væsentlig mere optimistisk for vi medlemmer.
Mr Hutton (ED). — While I welcome the President-in-Office to Parliament, would he accept that his answer was not as helpful as this Parliament would have wished it to be?
De sagde med rette, at Rådet består af repræsentanter, der er ansvarlige over for deres parlamenter. Men Rådet er også et lovgivende organ.
Would he not accept that there is a clear democratic disparity between Member State parliaments, where decisions are taken openly, and the Council, where decisions are reached in secret?
I øvrigt ser det ikke ud til, at forbrugerne får nogen som helst fornøjelse af de lave toldsatser.
Mr De Vries (LDR). — (NL) Has the presidency noted the conclusions drawn by the European Council in The Hague, in which it instructed Ecofin to tackle the taxation question with the utmost vigour?
Jeg vil der for gerne for det første vide, om Arco Chemicals har henvendt sig til Rådet, som det synes at være sket over for Kommissionen, for at få denne ordning igen nem, og for det andet, om Rådet agter med tilbage virkende kraft at indføre højere told på TBA og anvende indtægterne herfra til finansiering af den forskning i bioethanol, som vi har vedtaget her i for middag.
Or should the reservation he has just expressed be taken to mean that the British presidency does not plan to act on this appeal from the European Council and that it does not therefore intend to give a high priority to the harmonization of excise duties and VAT rates?
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Jeg vil ikke foregive, at Rådet har nogen som helt lyst til at afvige fra sine sædvanlige procedureregler angående sin arbejdsmetode og fortroligheden omkring sine egne beslut ninger, men jeg erkender, at bestemmelserne i den europæiske fælles akt, som muliggør ændringer af for holdet mellem Rådet og Parlamentet, er vigtige ting, som vi alle vil forsøge at få indflydelse på sammen, når de træder i kraft.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — The Hague European Council did not change the position adopted by the Ecofin meeting on 16 June 1986 in the conclusions it then reached on the proceedings of the ad hoc working party on the removal of fiscal barriers, and this topic is still receiving further consideration in that forum.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 9 af Eyraud (H229/86):
President. — Question No 8, by Mr Hutton (H-86/ 86):
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Det er klart, at det ærede medlem har mere erfaring med at svømme i disse dybe og mudrede vande end jeg.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — I do not want to embark on a wide-ranging discussion of the philosophic interstices involved in the concept of the democratic disparity, but I must say that I do not see that the argument has any compelling force in this context.
Men hvis jeg må gentage, hvad jeg lige har sagt, kan det være, vi taler forbi hinanden.
The point is that the members of the Council are all members of governments which are themselves accountable to their respective national parliaments.
Som jeg forstår det, har afgiften på tertbutylalkohol (TBA) været suspenderet i næsten 5 år fra juli 1981 og i løbet af i år er den via de stadier, jeg har beskrevet, blevet genindført i fuldt omfang med 4,6%, fordi den midlertidige mangel på produkter af denne art i Fællesskabet på dette tidspunkt var overstået.
The deliberations that they undertake as members of the Council are differ ent in character and in quality from the deliberations undertaken in a parliament, whether a national parliament or this parliament.
Der findes nu lignende produkter fra Fællesskabet og andre leverandører.
There are deliberations undertaken in the Council which should be private if decisions are to be reached there effectively.
Om: Kommissionens arbejdsprogram for 1986
Sir Geoffrey Howe body, where such a thing is sought after but not always achieved.
Hvilke skridt vil Rådet tage som svar på de forslag.
that is the distinctive feature of bodies which have an executive rather than or as well as a legislative role.
Kommissionen har fremsat i sit arbejdsprogram for 1986 med henblik på en koordineret vækststrategi for jobskabelse?
I find the parallel between the proceedings of the Coun cil and the proceedings of a national cabinet to be more apt than the parallel between the proceedings of the Council and the proceedings of a parliament, national or Community.
Seligman (ED). — (EN) Rådsformanden har måske ret i. at en lempelse af afgiften på TBA ikke strider mod Fællesskabets konkurrenceregler, men er det heldigt, når der er et overskud af bioethanol i Fælles skabet?
Mr Newton Dunn (ED). — Taking up the President-in-Office of the Council's analogy between Council meetings and cabinet meetings, surely there is a very fundamental difference.
Ved en lempelse af afgiften kunne vi bruge bioethanol til forøgelse af oktantallet i stedet for at importere TBA, der, som hr. Eyraud har sagt, under alle omstændigheder er uheldigt i miljømæssig hen seende.
Cabinet decisions — taken in secret, I agree — then have to be subject to approval by a vote in a democratically elected parliament.
Det europæiske Råd i Haag efterlyste en fælles strategi, der skulle diskuteres med arbejdsmarkedets parter, og som går ud på at fremme initiativer, opmuntre til fleksible beskæftigelsesmønstre og hjælpe de langtidsledige i arbejde igen.
Mr De Vries (LDR). — (NL) Even if confidentiality is observed, there is still a contribution that the British presidency might make to relations with Parliament and to the improvement of the flow of information.
Imens venter vi stadig på, at Kommissionen skal forelægge præcise forslag angående den koordinerede vækststrategi for jobskabelse, som omtales i Kommissionens arbejdsprogram for 1986.
At a meeting of the Internal Market Council its President, Mr Van Eekelen, invited a number of parliamentarians to state Parliament's position on the item of the agenda then under discussion.
Men dette spørgsmål vil blive taget op igen på socialministrenes næste møde i september.
My question to the President-in-Office of the Council is this: does he plan to continue this practice of inviting Members of the European Par liament to attend Council meetings and explain Parliament's position?
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Jeg tror, at vi er ved at nå til klarhed, selv om det kun er klarhed over, hvad misforståelsen går ud på.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — I think that other arguments can be mounted on my point, but not the one underlying this supplementary question.
Hvis jeg har forstået, hvor han vil hen, så er jeg enig i, at der ikke er nogen begrundelse for en lempelse af denne afgift nu, hvor der er tilstrækkeligt med TBA eller lignende stoffer i Fællesskabet. Tolden var ophævet fra 1981 til marts i år.
As a matter of fact, there are a number of decisions taken in cabinet which are not normally reviewed or considered by a national legislature.
Men den fulde toldsats på 4,6% er nu blevet genindført i to tempi — i marts og juli i år.
Some of them may be capable of challenge thereafter, but not all of them.
Så nu kan man ikke klage over, at den er afskaffet.
That is not really the point the honourable Member is making.
Så hvis og for så vidt som begge de ærede medlemmer klager over afskaffelsen af denne told, har de vist nok ret, bortset fra, at det problem, de klager over, også synes at være blevet afhjulpet.
I can understand the argument, which is a wider one, about the difference between the degree of democratic influence accorded to this Parliament and that of national parliaments.
Dury (S). — (FR) Jeg vil gerne spørge rådsformanden om hans virkelige mening om dette multinationale selskabs monopolagtige stilling.
I do not think that that argument would be most usefully advanced by attack ing the case for confidentiality in the proceedings of the Council.
Quin (S). — (EN) Rådets formand må da være enig i. at der er sket meget små konkrete fremskridt i for længelse af Kommissionens efterlysning af koordineret vækst.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — We certainly believe — and I hope it was implicit in my observations at the end of the debate earlier on — that there is advantage in encouraging and establishing more frequent contact between the Council and Parliament.
I særdeleshed vil jeg spørge rådsformanden, om han ikke beklager, at de i Rådet repræsenterede regeringer, inklusive hans egen, ikke har kunnet enes om Kommissionens forslag til et offentligt inve steringsprogram i hele Fællesskabet med henblik på jobskabelse?
My ministerial colleagues and I will, as representatives of the Presidency, be meeting almost all your parliamentary com mittees before December.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Det tror jeg ikke, jeg har lov til at spekulere over.
We shall be looking at other ways of establishing and promoting the kind of con tact I have talked about.
Jeg mener, der er noget, der hører ind under konkurrencelovgivningen, og som man derfor snarere skal gå til Kommissionen med, Jeg håber, det er tilstrækkeligt, så jeg kan svare på, hvad jeg tror bliver det sidste spørgsmål i denne serie.
I cannot give a specific answer to the specific proposal raised by the honourable Member, although we have certainly studied care fully the arrangements put in hand by Mr van Eekelen during the Dutch presidency.
Måske kan jeg tilføje, at jeg ikke blot stiller dette spørgsmål af almindelig interesse, men også på grund af situationen i min valgkreds, Tyne and Weir, hvor arbejdsløshedsprocenten ligger på næsten 25 og det industrielle tilbageslag har antaget et hidtil uset om fang.
I think it is important that we should be looking for ways of enhancing the contact between these two institutions of the Com munity.
Formanden. — Der bliver endnu et spørgsmål, da vi begyndte fem minutter for sent på grund af indlæg til forretningsordenen.
Mr Hindley (S). — Would the President-in-Office of the Council confirm that secrecy has been retained because it has provided in the past, and will continue to provide in the future, an extremely convenient device for masking the duplicity of Member States' actions in the Council, as was witnessed by the United Kingdom representative being party to an appeal to both sides in the Libyan crisis for restraint while knowing full well that an irrevocable order had already been given by the United States Government that British soil be used for an attack on Libya?
Peter Beazley (ED). - (EN) Hr. formand, til forretningsordenen.
Mr Van Aerssen (PPE). — (DE) Mr President-in-Office, your last answer struck a considerably more optimistic note for us Members of Parliament.
Jeg bemærker, at De i ét tilfælde nægtede vor gruppe endnu et spørgsmål og gav det til en anden.
You rightly said that the Council of Ministers consists of the representatives of the national governments who are responsible to their own parliaments.
Hvilke regler går De frem efter, når De nægter eller tillader to medlemmer af samme gruppe at stille et tillægsspørgsmål?
But the Council of Ministers is also a legislative institution.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Jeg kan forstå, hvorfor det ærede medlem føler sig tilskyndet til at formulere sit spørgsmål sådan i betragtning af de forhold i hen des valgkreds, som hun nævner.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — I must say that the preoccupation of one or two honourable Members in that quarter of the Chamber with this particular matter continues to surprise me.
Formanden. — Jeg træffer blot en beslutning her om, hvorvidt det vil tjene noget formål at tillade endnu et tillægsspørgsmål om dette emne.
So far as the Council is concerned, of course it would be remarkable if arrangements for confidentiality were to be universally observed in that body, as in any other
I dette tilfælde traf jeg den beslutning, at det var nok med ét tillægs spørgsmål og gik videre for at skabe mulighed for, at flere spørgsmål kunne besvares.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — I do not intend to imply any disposition on the part of the Council to depart from its own established rules of procedure about the con duct and confidentiality of its own proceedings, but I
Europa-Parlamentets forhandlinger
Subject: Suspension of customs duties on tertbutyl alcohol
Nr. 2-341/91 hvori disse lande kunne deltage med henblik på konstant at bekæmpe terrorismen, og til hvilket eksperter, talsmænd og offentlige repræsentanter kan henvende sig?
In its Regulation No 1118/86, the Council has temporarily reduced duties on tertbutyl alcohol (TBA) from 4.6% to 2% on the grounds that Community output is insufficient to meet the needs of consumer industries in the Community.
Sir Geoffrey Howe, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (EN) Den 27. januar i år udtrykte De Tolv ønske om at samarbejde med alle stater, inklusive staterne i Mellemøsten, om at nægte terrorister støtte, dækning eller asyl, og de gav udtryk for deres beredvillighed til at indlede en passende form for dialog med landene i Mellemøsten om problemerne med international ter rorisme og nødvendigheden af at udrydde den med rod.
As I understand it, the duty on TBA had been suspended for almost five years from July 1981 and in the course of this year, in the steps I have described, it has been brought back into effect at the full rate of 4.6%, because the temporary shortage of products of this kind in the Community had by then come to an end. There is now an availability of similar products from the Community and other suppliers.
Der er endnu ikke truffet beslutning om, hvilken form kontakter om dette sporgsmål mellem De Tolv og tredjelande bor have.
If that is not a sufficient explanation of the position, per haps I or the appropriate representative of the Com mission might strive to amplify the answer in a written communication to the honourable Member.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Det er jeg enig med min ærede partifælle i.
What is the current Community consumption and what is it likely to be by 1988?
Det er en af de vigtigste grunde til, at vi onsker at gå videre med gennemførelsen af det interne marked. Men vi bør ikke gå i den fælde, at vi betragter dette i sig selv som et tilstrækkeligt svar på arbejdsløshedsproblemerne.
Does not this measure lead to distortion of competition between TBA and competing products, particularly bioethanol; since an American-Dutch multinational enjoys a virtual monopoly of the production of TBA in the EEC and the USA, does this measure not infringe Community legislation in respect of monopolies?
Derfor mener jeg. at en yderligere vifte af foranstaltninger af den art. som diskuteres i de dokumenter, som Storbritannien. Italien og Irland har forelagt, også fortjener at overvejes.
Mr Seligman (ED). — The President-in-Office may be right that a remission of tax on TBA is not against Community competition law, but is it desirable when there is a surplus of bioethanol in the Community?
Min ærede partifælle husker sikkert, at de for eksempel giver spørgsmålet om små og mellemstore virksomheder særlig opmærksomhed og ligeledes fjernelsen af de barrierer af national eller international art, der står i vejen for små og mellemstore firmaers vækst, for derved at forøge beskæftigelsesmuligheder ne.
With a bit of tax remission we could use this latter indigenous source of octane booster instead of import ing TBA, which as Mr Eyraud said, is environmentally an undesirable product anyhow.
Maher (LDR). — (EN) Er rådsformanden enig i, at forslaget om et permanent forum, hvor repræsentanterne for de forskellige lande kunne mødes, og hvor der kunne afholdes horinger med deltagere fra for skellige lande og også fra Parlamentet, ville være en passende basis for en lobende dialog?
Sir Geoffrey Howe, President-in-Office of the Council. — The Common Customs Tariff on tertbutyl alcohol was totally suspended from 1 July 1981 until the end of March this year following a break in Community production.
Jeg stiller dette spørgsmål, fordi vi plejer at forstærke kontakterne, når der sker en forøgelse af antallet af terroraktioner, men når tallet formindskes, går det ligeså med kon takterne.
From 1 April this year a duty of 2% was applied to TBA and with effect from 1 July this year the full 4.6% duty came into force. Current annual consumption in the Community is of the order of 400 000 tonnes.
Så anerkender De behovet for et permanent forum, og kan De tilslutte Dem det forslag, mit spørgsmål indeholdt?
The Council does not consider that such a suspension of tariff could infringe Community competition law.
Hindley (S). — (EN) Rådets formand nævnte i sin allerførste sætning behovet for at rådspørge arbejdsmarkedets parter, skønt hans egen regering i Det for enede Kongerige i bemærkelsesværdig grad har und ladt at gøre dette ved sin egen økonomiske planlægning: men da han lægger vægt på et sådant samarbejde, må jeg så have lov at kombinere mit tillægs spørgsmål med spørgsmål nr. 23 af hr. Hoon og spørge ham. hvilke praktiske foranstaltninger han ag ter at træffe for at puste liv i Vredeling-direktivet?
Mr Eyraud (S). — (FR) Allow me to mention, for the information of Honourable Members, that tertbutyl alcohol (TBA) is a hydrocarbon-based product which is going to be used to replace lead in petrol as an additive to boost octane ratings.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Jeg mener, der er en temmelig kompliceret bunke spørgsmål rodet sammen her.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — I think increasing clarity is beginning to emerge even if it is only clarity about the nature of the misunderstanding.
Så man kan diskutere de politiske årsager, hvilket er grunden til, at udenrigsministrene i politisk samarbejde længe har været interesseret i de grundlæggende politiske problemer i Mellemøsten, for at tage det foreliggende eksempel.
The point I make in response to the honourable Member is precisely the same as the one I made to the previous questioner, but this time I do it with more confidence.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Hvad det sidste punkt angår, blev der på junimødet i Rådet af socialministre enighed om, at det ikke var det rette tidspunkt til yderligere drøftelser af Vredeling-direktivet.
If I understand the point he is making, I agree that there is no case, now that there is a sufficiency of supply of TBA or equivalents in the Community, for a remission of this duty.
Det ærede medlem vil er indre, at det er i morgen, vor finansminister holder sit ordinære månedlige møde med det nationale økonomiske udviklingsråd — det britiske forum for kon takter af denne art.
So, if and insofar as both honourable Members complain about a remission, their complaint appears to be justified save for the fact that the complaint appears also to have been remedied.
Men hvis man beskæftiger sig med forsvarsforanstaltninger og initiativer imod terrorismen, er jeg ikke umiddelbart tilbøjelig til at oprette et ekstra forum til dette formål.
Mrs Dury (S). — (FR) I should like to ask the President-in-Office what he really thinks of the virtual monopoly enjoyed by this multinational.
Spørgsmål nr. 25 af Mäher (H-933/85):
This aspect was not mentioned in his reply.
Om : Fælles erklæring om den internationale terrorisme
At the same time, the consumer does not seem to be getting any benefit from the reduction in customs duties.
Vil udenrigsministrene i forbindelse med erklæringen for nylig om den internationale terrorisme oplyse, hvorvidt de agter at indlede en dialog med de lande, hvor den internationale terrorisme er et stadigt problem, og især med Den arabiske Liga, og er udenrigsministrene rede til at oprette et permanent forum.
I should therefore like to know, first, whether Arco Chemicals made representations to the Council, as it appears to have done to the Commission, with a view to securing this regulation and, secondly, whether the Council intends to restore higher duties on TBA retroactively, allocating the sums recovered to
Blumenfeld denne opsporing af terrorister, hvis identitet man kender, men som ikke er blevet anholdt i det land. hvor de udførte deres terroraktion, men vides at op holde sig et andet sted i verden?
President. — There will be one more question, as we started five minutes late due to points of order.
Det forekommer mig, at vi mangler dette i øjeblikket.
where there is virtually 25% unemployment and industrial decline on an unprecedented scale.
Wiener-konventionen blev udarbejdet for over 100 år siden.
I notice that you refused to allow our group to have a second question on one subject and gave it to another.
Den har ærværdige traditioner, men den behøver helt afgjort fornyet overvejelse og ajourføring i betragtning af nødvendigheden af at bekæmpe den internationale terrorisme.
What rules do you work by in refusing or allowing two members of a group to ask a supplementary question?
Jeg kan tilføje, at Europa-Parlamentets delegation til Amerika for nogle uger siden har interesseret sig aktivt for dette spørgsmål.
President. — I just make a decision in the Chair on whether there would be any point in permitting a further supplementary question on the subject.
Amerikanerne synes at stille sig positivt til dette spørgsmål.
On this particular occasion I decided that one supplementary question had been sufficient and I moved on in order to allow more questions to be answered.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — (EN) Jeg var ikke klar over. at jeg også fik besvaret spørgsmål nr. 32, og det er da muligt, at vi når frem til det.
Sir Geoffrey Howe. — I can understand why the honourable lady is prompted to ask that question in that way in the light of the position to which she refers in her own constituency.
Men jeg er enig i det. som det ærede medlem siger om, at det er af afgørende betydning, at der udveksles og videresendes oplysninger om terrorister eller formodede terrorister.
The whole House understands the importance which every Member State govern ment attaches to the fight against unemployment.
Det er derfor, at Fællesskabet igen og igen har taget fat på dette problem.
Subject: The Commission's work programme for 1986
Det er derfor, at den såkaldte Trevi-gruppe findes for at sørge for samarbejde om den slags spørgsmål, som min ærede partifælle nævnte.
What action is the Council going to take in response to the proposals of the Commission, con tained in its 1986 work programme, for a coordinated growth strategy to create jobs?
De undersøgelser, der er foretaget af Wiener-konventionen på nationalt og internationalt plan, peger efter min mening på, at der ikke er megen mulighed, om overhovedet nogen, for at revidere konventionen, rent bortset fra vanskeligheden ved at sikre enighed om en sådan revision blandt det store antal lande, som måtte inddrages.
Sir James Scott-Hopkins (ED). — Would not the President-in-Office agree that one of the best methods of encouraging employment is to implement the inter nal market which Lord Cockfield has been advocating as the instrument for that, thereby increasing employ ment opportunities in all the Member States, including the United Kingdom.
De Vries (ARC). — (NL) Formanden for Rådet syn tes i svaret på hr. Mähers spørgsmål at have forståelse for en forbedring af den hidtidige samrådsprocedure mellem medlemsstaterne med hensyn til bekæmpelse af terrorismen.
Sir Geoffrey Howe, President-in-Office of the Council. — It was a ruling which emphasized the admirable wisdom of maintaining discretion for the Chair, if I may say so, Mr President.