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Afgørende er, at denne betænkning ikke stod på dagsordenen, og at vi blev overrasket af det.
In Belgium, for example, the principle of freedom of instruction is enshrined in the Constitution.
Vor konklusion er, at det frie valg af undervisning skal anerkendes i lovgivningen, lige som forældrenes valgfrihed, at der også skabes de økonomiske forud sætninger herfor, at der er tilstrækkelig autonomi for så vidt angår indholdet af undervisningen, og at eksamensbeviserne også anerkendes.
The French Constitutional Council ruled in November 1977 that the principle of the freedom of education is a basic tenet recognized by the laws of the Republic, confirmed by the preamble of the 1946 Constitution and given constitutional status by the 1958 Constitution.
Sieglerschmidt (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, i denne betænkning drejer det sig om spørgsmål af virkelig principiel betydning og om grundlæggende rettigheder, menneskerettigheder.
The European Court of Human Rights, in its judgment of December 1976 in the case of Kjeldsen and Others, laid down the following fundamental principle : 'The second sentence of Article 2 of the Protocol aims at safeguarding the possibility of pluralism in education, which possibility is essential for the preservation of the "democratic society" as conceived by the Convention'.
Jeg siger det ikke som kritik mod ordføreren.
A number of other constitutions guarantee freedom of instruction in different forms.
Hr. formand, hvis jeg må give et godt råd til præsidiet for det ny Parlament, som De forhåbentlig også vil være medlem af, så er det dene, at det for fremtiden, når det fastsætter dagsordenen, tager større hensyn til den grundsætning, at mindre ofte giver mere.
Greece provides no subsidies, whereas in Holland and Ireland private schools receive the same support as state schools.
Jeg tøver med at sige, at det også drejer sig om religionsfrihed.
Other countries offer a mixed range of financial arrangements.
Inden for disse rammer findes der naturligvis også de samme udfoldelsesmuligheder for konfessionelle skoler.
In France, a distinction is made between schools that have concluded an association agreement and those which merely conclude a so-called simple agreement.
Pflimlin (PPE). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, det europæiske folkepartis gruppe vil stemme for den betænkning, som vi har fået forelagt.
Paragraphs 1 to 9 of the motion for a resolution seek to define the principle of the right to freedom of education, which I would summarize as follows : Every child shall have the right to education and teaching without any discrimination.
Ganske vist er undervisningsfrihed for øjeblikket genstand for offentlig debat i Frankrig, men selv om jeg er fransk mand, vil jeg ikke dvæle ved denne side af problemet.
In accordance with the right to freedom of education, Member States shall be required to provide the financial means whereby this right can be exercised in practice.
Jeg skal nøjes med at udtrykke håbet om, at de problemer, der for øjeblikket er under debat, må finde sin løsning — i en ånd af forståelse, af tolerance — i fornuftige kompromis'er.
Section II of the motion for a resolution recommends certain action on the part of the appropriate authorities to implement the above principles.
Men det er ligeledes også klart, at her er det mindre påkrævet med fællesskabsretlige ordninger.
Despite reservations on the part of a number of members, the committee decided on each occasion by a majority that there was.
I den anledning vil vi stille forslag, fordi vi er af den mening, at beskyttelsen af de grundlæggende rettigheder i medlemsstaterne — for så vidt det ikke drejer sig om fællesskabsret — ikke er fællesskabsinstansernes sag.
The Legal Affairs Committee regards this motion for a resolution before the House as an affirmation and confirmation of basic principles solemnly declared in this Chamber.
I virkeligheden — og det er helt klart, og hr. Sieglerschmidt har netop understreget det — er der tale om principielle problemer af største vigtighed, som har en langt mere almen og vidtrækkende betyd ning end nogle specielle omstændigheder og forhold.
In view of the brief time at my disposal, I should like to sum up by saying that it is possible that the report and the motion for a resolution may be thought to refer to specific political situations in certain countries.
Undervisningsfrihed er et af udtrykkene for tanke frihed.
We have attempted to formulate the motion for a resolution and the report in such a way that they safeguard the right to freedom of education in all Member States at all times and protect this right from attack.
Jeg vil gerne opfordre de medlemmer, der vil støtte denne betænkning, til at forholde sig på samme måde, når det drejer sig om retten til at være militærnægter, og ikke opfatte dette som en undtagelsesret, men som en ret på lige linie med retten til at gå i privatskole.
Mr Beumer (PPE), draftsman of an opinion for the Committee on Youth, Culture, Education, Information and Sport. — (NL) Mr President, I should like to begin by thanking the draftsman initially appointed, Mr Fajardie, for the major contribution he made to the collection of information for our opinion.
Pflimlin tjeneste, undervisning, religiøse skikke og overholdelse af rituelle forskrifter«. Det er helt klart udtrykt.
The opinion also says that in the countries of Europe the tradition of conventional education runs parallel with the education tradition itself and that to cast this tradition aside would be, as it were, to break with part of our European history and our culture.
karakter, som er, gentager jeg, den demokratiske pluralisme.
There is no reason for that, because this link has proved its value in every way.
Vi brugte mange timer — måske 10 timer — i retsudvalget til at diskutere dette vitale spørgsmål, og hans tålmodighed og vedholdenhed var en inspiration for os alle.
That, I believe, will enable us to acquit ourselves of all our obligations as free citizens.
Undervisningsfriheden kan modvirkes af systemer, som giver staten eneret på undervisningen.
Our opinion particularly concerns freedom in the education of young people, a subject which falls within my committee's terms of reference.
Det ligger mig fjernt at sige, at staten ikke er kvalificeret til at tage sig af undervisningen, tværtimod er det netop en af statens pligter at oprette offentlig undervisning.
The opinion emphasizes the wisdom of discussing the role the state should play in education.
Hans forslag opstiller i første del de principper, som vi til sidst nåede frem til i retsudvalget.
It must provide education where other arrangements have not been made.
Jeg skal ikke gennemgå dem alle. Jeg ville gerne først se på hr. Pflimlins sidste synspunkt, som han så overbevisende fremsatte.
The main thing is that education should be provided in a flexible and decentralized manner, with particular emphasis placed on the role to be played by parents.
Det vigtigste princip i denne betænkning er den betydning, den tillægger det frie valg af uddannelse, idet valget påhviler forældrene, indtil eleven er gammel nok til at bestemme selv.
Parents have different opinions and also want their children to be brought up to be independent in the way they consider best for their children, and value judgments are therefore a significant factor in this respect.
Jeg mener også, ligesom hr. Beumer, der talte for ungdomsudvalget, at den omstændighed, at de og de skoler er inspireret af den og den doktrin ikke bør føre til noget sekterisk.
Mr Sieglerschmidt (S). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, this report deals with absolutely fundamental human rights, with the right of parents to determine their children's education.
Tværtimod skal der altid undervises i respekt for andre, i respekten for det, vi nu kalder for »retten til at være forskellig«.
But it also deals with children's rights, with children's welfare, and I shall come back to this later.
Valgfrihed er et væsentligt træk ved et demokratisk samfund og et væsentligt bolværk mod tyranni.
We believe, Mr President, that costs must not be allowed to become an insurmountable obstacle.
Ydermere har uddannelsesfrihed nøje sammenhæng med en anden væsentlig frihed, nemlig friheden til selv at vælge sin religiøse tro og frit at udtrykke den.
Nor would we say that on no account should parents wanting a certain type of education for their children be allowed to make a contribution of their own, but children should not be refused admission to a given school because of their parents' incomes.
Jeg vil også gerne minde Parlamentet om, hvor meget dette problem vedkommer folk i almindelighed i Fællesskabet.
I hesitate to say that religious freedom is also involved.
Tilfældigvis foregår der for øjeblikket i min egen valgkreds i Redbridge en større revidering af skolesystemet.
Under this system denominational schools would naturally also have freedom of opportunity.
Det overliggende mål er at udvide forældrenes valg mulighed så meget som muligt.
Mr President, ideological considerations may be more important for parents, and they also consider them important for their children.
Det store spørgsmål er, hvor langt dette kan gøres, når man samtidig skal tage kvalitetsmæssige og økonomiske hensyn.
Parents may also attach importance to the type of education their children receive ; some children learn more easily if they are taught in one way rather than another.
Faktisk har disse spørgsmål sat sindene i bevægelse blandt forældre, lærere og alle slags mennesker i den del af London.
Latitude must be allowed for decisions of this kind. Parents must therefore have a choice, and material circumstances must not stand in their way.
Men det forekommer mig indlysende, at undervisningsfrihed i vore demokratiske samfund måske er den vigtigste form for pluralisme.
I have been asked why Parliament has considered this matter, what it has to do with the European Community.
Hr. Sieglerschmidt siger: Der er også børnenes rettigheder.
We are, of course, dealing here with fundamental rights.
Jeg vil dog tillade mig at svare ham, at man har svært ved at se, hvordan i hvert fald mindreårige skal kunne vælge selv.
But it is equally clear that there is no need for regulations on a Community basis.
Det er fuldstændig rigtigt, at de unge — vi ser det rundt omkring os — fra den tidligste ungdom — uanset hvilke skoler, de har gået i, demonstrerer deres valg frihed.
We intend to submit amendments to this effect, since we are of the opinion that protection of fundamental rights in the Member States — as long as Community law is not involved — is not the concern of Community authorities.
Det skal der ikke røres ved.
In some cases the report goes too far !
Men når det drejer sig om de første stadier af undervisningen, så påhviler det deres forældre at vælge for dem.
Otherwise, this report concerns the European Parliament as much or as little as, for example, the report on conscientious objectors.
Anden del af beslutningsforslaget redegør for, hvordan Fællesskabet kunne gribe ind.
The opinion of the Committee on Youth, Culture, Education, Information and Sport points out that ideological education need not and in fact should not be dogmatic.
Vi nærer en vis frygt for en lovgivning inden for Fællesskabet på dette område, skønt vi erkender vigtigheden af at nå frem til en gensidig anerkendelse af eksamensbeviser, hvis idealerne i artikel 57 skal virkeliggøres.
It should also be critical and investigative, it should be open to the views of others and it should respect diversity. Not, then, education simply in the form of engineering, in which no more than mere figures are taught and values are completely submerged.
Mine kære kolleger, vi lever i et samfund, hvor de unge bliver påvirket fra alle mulige sider gennem massemedierne, gennem læsning.
As I mentioned in passing earlier, parental rights and children's rights must be carefully balanced.
Lad os derfor i det mindste tilstå dem denne ret og denne grundlæggende mulighed for at give deres børn nogle retningslinjer ved at vælge en skole, som passer dem bedst.
Children's rights, at any rate in the abstract, are just as important as, if not more important than parental rights, for example when conflicts arise.
Dette er, mine kære kolleger — og jeg ville gerne, at der på dette punkt var stor enighed, om end ikke enstemmighed — helt sikkert den bedste måde at sikre vor samfund i nutid og fremtid deres væsentlige
In addition, freedom of education and instruction must also ensure that equality of opportunity for education and training is always maintained.
Tyrrell perne og som sigter mod forholdsregler, som vi alle er enige om med gavn kan tages af Fællesskabet.
I cannot agree with the rapporteur that we all knew what was on the agenda.
I snart tre år har denne forsamling tjent som talerstol for modstanderne af den nuværende franske regering.
(Interruption) our attachment to freedom of education very clearly, not just for confessional schools, but for other independent schools as well.
Det er ret besynderligt, at det netop er dem, der i 1979 fremførte sig som forsvarere af Frankrigs interesser i Europa, som også i dag er de hurtigste til at benytte en international institution som bastion til et angreb mod deres eget lands politik.
I also think — and here I join Mr Beumer, who spoke on behalf of the Committee on Youth, Culture, Education, Information and Sport — that the fact that some schools are based on particular doctrines should not lead them to turn out sectarians.
Man kan i hvert fald ikke bebrejde os at have benyttet sådanne metoder.
On the contrary, respect for the individual, respect for what we now call the right to be different, must always be taught.
Chambeiron (COM). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil ikke indlede en polemik med vor kollega, hr. Bange mann, eftersom han ikke er til stede; det er jo altid meget ubehageligt at henvende sig til en, som man ikke har foran sig.
I am not criticizing the rapporteur. I am criticizing those responsible for the fact that the groups have not been able to do justice to this thorough report, which is based on long and extensive discussions in the Legal Affairs Committee.
Men jeg ville blot sige, at jeg i går, da jeg satte mig imod opførelsen på dagsordenen af Lusterbetænkningen, fik fornemmelsen af, at jeg ikke var blevet forstået ret.
If, Mr President, I may be allowed to offer a piece of advice to the new Bureau of the new Parliament, of which I trust you will be a member, then I would ask you in future, when drawing up the agenda, to bear in mind that less is sometimes more.
Undervisningsfrihed — hvis det virkelig er det, som visse af vore kolleger er optaget af — går vi fuldt og helt ind for.
What seems to me obvious is that, in our democratic societies, freedom of education is perhaps the most important form of pluralism.
Det har vi sagt og gentaget i årtier, men vi har godt nok fornemmelsen af, at det for nogle er noget helt andet, det drejer sig om.
It is in the schools that the future of our societies is shaped.
Ingen i Frankrig drømmer om at anfægte undervisningsfriheden.
And so it is vitally important that pluralism, pluralism for the benefit of the parents, be respected in these schools and by these schools.
For øjeblikket finder en engageret diskussion sted mellem regeringen og repræsentanter for den private under visning om undervisningsproblemerne.
Mr Sieglerschmidt said that children also have rights, but I would reply that it is difficult to see how young children can exercise them.
Vi mener, at samråd mellem de berørte parter er den rigtige Vej, og vi håber, at dette vil føre til konkrete løsninger, der kan accepteres af alle.
It is perfectly true that, once they are adolescent — as we can see all around us today — young people, whatever schools they have attended, exercise freedom of choice. There is no question of touching that.
Jeg vil først og fremmest berolige hr. Bangemann.
Mr Pflimlin (PPE). — (FR) Mr President, honourable Members, the Group of the European People's Party will vote for this report.
Når det drejer sig om at forsvare menneskerettighederne, om at forsvare frihedsrettighederne, er den gruppe, jeg tilhører, altid med, og det uden forbehold, uden undtagelser i baghovedet.
I am grateful that Mr Luster emphasized just now that this is not a circumstantial report inspired by problems or controversies that may have arisen in any of the Member States.
Jeg har for øvrigt noterer mig, at hr. Bangemann i sin tale erklærede sig for overbevist om vor bestandighed, når det gælder forsvaret af menneskerettighederne.
Freedom of education is currently the subject of public discussion in France, it is true, but, although I am French, I shall not spend time on this aspect of the problem.
Jeg tvivler ikke om, at hans ord huskes af mange af hans kolleger, for hvem han står — det kan ingen nære tvivl om — som en garant, der dårligt kan afvises.
I shall confine myself to the hope that the present problems will be settled, in a spirit of understanding and tolerance, by means of reasonable compromises.
Den første er den omstændighed, at den betænkning, det drejer sig om, kun lige er blevet omdelt, at størsteparten af vore kolleger ikke har haft tid til at læse den, at grupperne ikke har haft lejlighed til at se nærmere på den.
At all events, parental influence is now having to fight with a whole series of other influences and for many parents this is a source of considerable concern, as they often see even their very young children slip out of their control and go other ways.
Når det drejer sig om et spørgsmål af denne art, er det beklageligt, at en afstemning skal gennemføres under disse forhastede vilkår, som ikke forekommer mig at svare til den alvor, man har ret til at forlange af vor forsamling.
This, honourable Members, and I should like to see general agreement if not unanimity on this point, is the best way of guaranteeing that our societies keep their essential character, which is, I repeat, one of democratic pluralism, now and in the future.
Det er derfor, vi fordømmer dem, som af sekterisme, af valgpropagandistiske motiver, prøver at ødelægge de håb, som ligger i denne forhandling.
The problems in fact — this is very clear, as Mr Sieglerschmidt has just emphasized — are extremely important problems of principle and they are of general scope, going far beyond circumstances and opportunities.
Jeg påstår ikke, at dette er hr. Lusters personlige hensigt; det har han netop forklaret.
Systems which give the State a monopoly on education may oppose freedom of education.
Jeg siger blot, at ordføreren, bevidst eller ubevidst, gør sig til talsmand for politisk propaganda.
Far be it from me to say that the State is not qualified to deal with teaching.
Men enhver kan forstå, at det ikke er det, det drejer sig om.
On the contrary, it is one of its duties, even, to organize public education.
Det tilsigtede mål er i virkeligheden at støtte et fransk indenrigspolitisk forehavende, udløst af dem, som ikke har accepteret de ændringer, der er blevet indført i mit land siden 1981.
But it is clear that an educational monopoly, be it de jure or de facto, is a dangerous thing that can lead to totalitarianism.
Galland (L). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, Luster-betænkningen og vores debat er af stor vigtighed.
Mr Tyrrell (ED). — Mr President, first I should pay tribute to the enormous amount of work done by the rapporteur on this subject.
Det er ikke en lejlighedsbetonet debat, som hr. Pflimlin så godt udtrykte det. Men den er vigtig, fordi den i Frankrig er smerteligt aktuel.
We spent many hours — perhaps 10 hours — in the Legal Affairs Committee debating this vital matter, and his patience and perseveren« were an inspiration to us all.
Det er betegnende, at det franske kommunistparti gennem hr. Chambeiron igen i går forsøgte at forhindre en diskussion af denne betænkning i forsamlingen — han har netop selv mindet os om det.
Totalitarian systems, be they left or right, try to ensure that they keep their hold in the present and in the future by attempting to mould the minds and souls of the pupils — and, alas, they to a very large extent succeed.
Det kommunistiske parti har endnu en gang vist sin tvetungethed og sin mærkværdige opfattelse af frihedsrettighederne.
If we want to avoid all risk of slipping or deviating into totalitarianism of this kind, we have to state
Det argument, Det benyttede, er, at der ikke er noget virkeligt problem.
His motion sets out, in Part I, the principles that we eventually arrived at in the Legal Affairs Committee.
Og De sagde i går, at tingene var ved at gå i orden.
I shall not go through them all.
Vi har i denne forsamling med rette stemt massivt for, at denne betænkning blev taget op til diskussion i dag.
I would like to take up first the last point that Mr Pflimlin so persuasively made.
Men især fordi denne betænkning og vor debat rækker langt ud over det franske problem.
The most important principle in this report is
Næstformand ment.
The two are inseparably related.
Europa, symbolet på frihedsrettighederne: handlefrihed, forsamlingsfrihed, pressefrihed, samt genstanden for hr. Lusters udmærkede betænkning: uddannelses- og undervisningsfrihed i Det europæiske Fællesskab.
The second reason is that, although the report claims to be on freedom of education and teaching in the Community, it is in fact only an instrument intended to support the campaign which the right-wing parties in France are leading against the policy of the French Government.
Ja, Rudolf Luster, vi vil af hele vort hjerte stemme for de principper, der er opført i Deres betænkning.
I would also like to remind the House how deeply this issue is felt by the public at large in the Community.
Det er det, vi ser nu.
He explained just now.
Jeg er vidende om, at kommissionsformanden eller den ansvarlige kommissær har til hensigt at komme med en redegørelse for Parlamentet i morgen.
All I am saying is that the rapporteur, whether intentionally or by design, has been a vehicle for political propaganda.
Kan jeg anmode formanden for Parlamentet om at sikre, at denne redegørelse, når den foreligger, indeholder en kategorisk udtalelse om, hvorvidt Kommissionen har til hensigt at revidere sine egne forslag i overensstemmelse med aftalen på Rådsniveau, og at rådsformanden selv i præcise vendinger oplyser os om arten af denne aftale?
Although there is no legal basis for a Community education policy — the speakers have just said as much — we, for our part, would have had no objections to this European Parliament starting a discussion on certain aspects of education in the countries of the Community, particularly better training for young people and giving them a place in tomorrow's world.
Det er en utilfredsstillende måde for Parlamentet at blive informeret om begivenhederne på.
The idea is in fact to back up an internal policy operation in France started by those who have failed to accept the changes in my country since 1981.
Og derfor siger 75 % af franskmændene i dag nej til integreringen af den private undervisning, uden kontrakt, i et samlet, konfessionsløst system; nej til en ophævelse af de eksisterende love; nej til ophævelsen af den statslige finansiering af friskolerne.
We have some misgivings about Community legislation in this area, even though we recognize the importance of achieving mutual recognition of educational qualifications if the ideals of Article 57 are to be realized.
Det er derfor, vi er yderst agtpågivende, for vi kan ikke glemme, hvad der står skrevet i de franske socialisters plan for den nationale undervisning Mexan-deau-rapporten :
In this context I should say that I listened with interest to what Commissioner Richard had to say about that in the previous debate, and we shall follow the developments which he anticipates with great interest.
»Skolen er et af de steder, hvor klassekampen vil blive udkæmpet«.
It is not by chance that the proposal for a resolution on which the report under discussion is based comes from the Group of European Progressive Democrats.