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Jeg beklager meget, at vi er kommet i tidnød.
I realized for myself how much such a policy was the hope of fishermen from the Bay of Biscay to the Scottish and Irish coasts.
Der er således opført 4 talere på talerlisten, og vi har ikke tid til at debattere og holde afstemning om dette forslag.
Enlarging the Community will only add to the problem : conflict in Community waters between Spanish and Community fishermen is already an everyday occur ence.
Ewing (DEP). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil blot lige sige undskyld til hr. Contogeorgis.
I think it also important that Parliament should address itself to the way the Commission has gone about trying to recruit these inspectors.
Det er et spørgsmål om at have brillerne på eller ikke.
It has asked the Member States to find them for it.
Formanden. — Forhandlingen er afsluttet.
Now it will only take one or two Member States to say that they
Jeg spørger derfor Forsamlingen, om den ønsker at stemme om dette forslag uden forhandling.
In closing, Mr President, I should like to say that there will never be a real common fisheries policy without Community inspection.
Glinne (S). — (FR) Vi er fra vor side indstillet på at give afkald på forhandlingen om forslaget for at fremskynde sagen. Jeg skal imidlertid med det samme anføre, at vi i det forslag, som hr. Wagner og jeg selv har stillet, ønsker at lade punkt 1 og 5 udgå.
Mr Helms (PPE). — (DE) This request for urgency was addressed explicitly to the President of the Commission and I find it deplorable, therefore, that President Thorn should only a few moments ago have left this chamber where we are discussing this question of the internal workings of the Commission.
Derfor anmoder jeg på mit udvalgs vegne om, at vi får en times debat.
Obviously 13 inspectors is not enough.
Formanden. — Jeg tager Deres udtalelse til efterretning. Er de andre talere ligeledes indstillet på at give afkald på forhandling?
More will be needed and I hope that the Commission, having now established the list of suitable candidates, will be able to appoint additional inspectors at a much faster rate of knots than they did in respect of the first 13.
Erwin Lange (S), formand for budgetudvalget. — (DE) Hr. formand, jeg beklager, men det er mit indtryk, at Deres meddelelse er fuldstændig utilstrækkelig og forkert.
Finally, Mr President, this inspectorate cannot be fully effective and the policy cannot operate without adequate statistical backup and I ask the Commission to look now very urgently into the statistical service backup for the fisheries sector.
Vi vedtog i går efter forslag fra det udvidede præsidium at forhandle kl. 15.00 redegørelsen fra næstformanden i Kommissionen, hr. Tugendhat.
Internal empire building or internal empire protectionism and bureau cratic obfuscation must not be allowed to stand in the way of effective policy management.
Welsh (ED). — (EN) Jeg giver gladeligt afkald, for jeg kan ikke forstå, hvorfor vi diskuterer dette over hovedet, men da hr. Glinne har trukket sine to punkter tilbage, vil jeg trække del D af præamblen til min gruppes ændringsforslag tilbage på samme grundlag, og vi håber naturligvis at netop dette ændringsforslag vil blive vedtaget.
I assure the Commissioner that we are going to look very closely into this sector in the near future and any help he requires in improving the statistical backup for the fishing policy will meet with our full support.
Så kan Parlamentet pakke sammen, og vi har ikke længere brug for repræsentanter fra Kommissionen. Så kan vi undvære det hele.
Mr Tugendhat stated in the Committee on Agriculture that this question did not fall within his competence and had not, in his own words, as commissioner with responsibility for finance, been informed on this point.
(Mødet udsat kl. 13.00 og genoptaget kl. 15.05)
Mrs Ewing (DEP). — Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I support the motion for a resolution tabled by Mr Provan.
FORSÆDE: MARCEL VANDEWIELE Formand
I agree with all the speakers on the matter.
De er således nødt til i overensstemmelse med vor aftale fra i går at lade denne forhandling vare 60 minutter, og dette kræver vi.
The Commission has been aware of what has been going on for some weeks now and so far we have received no information whatsoever.
Jeg håber, at også hr. Thorn, som det blev bebudet, først vil afgive en erklæring, som vi vil inddrage i forhandlingen. Dette kan ej heller forhindres ved, at man påberåber sig forretningsordenen.
I should like to ask the Commissioner present here today — who I hope has been informed — to take heed and give an answer here and now to my questions, particularly as regards what has happened to these funds and the Commission's competency in this sector.
Andriessen, medlem af Rommissionen. — (NL) Hr. formand, i går blev der givet en redegørelse fra Kommissionen og det blev besluttet, at redegørelsen i dag skulle efterfølges af en forhandling.
Mr Battersby (ED). — Mr President, as chairman of the fisheries working group, I too regret that President Thorn has found it impossible to be with us throughout this debate.
Formanden. — Ærede kolleger, i henhold til artikel 40, punkt 2 i forretningsordenen skal en redegørelse fra Kommissionen ikke nødvendigvis efterfølges af en forhandling.
Parliament will know that yesterday I tried to get my urgency resolution included in this debate and I think it should have been.
Medlemmerne kan inden for en periode på i alt 30 minutter stille korte, præcist formulerede spørgsmål til belysning af særlige punkter i redegørelsen. relsen.
So far as the common fisheries policy is concerned, it is as if the harbour is under threat from a turbulent storm and we are only repairing one bit of the wall. I think Mrs Péry's speech highlighted this.
Efter hr. Tugendhats erklæring i går morges har nogle medlemmer kunnet stille spørgsmål, men i mindre end 30 minutter i alt.
We have no real common fish eries policy, we have none of the certainty that was promised and we have no fairness.
Formanden. — Kære kolleger, vi ved alle sammen, at Kommissionen er et kollegium.
They try to cooperate to make something work.
Hvis hr. Andriessen erklærer, at Kommissionen er repræsenteret, og at den er rede til at forhandle, må dette tages i betragtning. ning.
However, all the associations in Scotland have written to me, and their mood is now one of pessimism, angry despair and disillusionment.
Curry (ED), formand for Undbrugsudvalget. — (EN) Hr. formand, først og fremmest må jeg konstatere, at hverken formanden for Kommissionen, hr. Dalsager eller hr. Tugendhat er til stede i salen.
I wanted the policing accepted, but I also wanted to point out that there are other aspects to the failure of the common fisheries policy and the fact that the whole of 'Blue Europe' is in a crisis.
»Hr. Dalsager er ikke til stede, han kommer i morgen«, dvs. i dag.
Amendment No 1 was just to make the resolution sound more urgent.
Jeg forlanger ganske enkelt, at man respekterer de beslutninger, vi har taget.
President. — Mrs Ewing, Commissioner Contogeorgis is listening to you.
(Bifald)
Mrs Ewing (DEP). — I would like then to pass to Amendment No 3.
Sir Fred Carhterwood (ED). — (EN) Jeg vil gerne tale på min gruppes vegne, da jeg var til sede ved præsidiets møde i går, da dette blev besluttet.
I am asking that you regard this as a matter of top priority.
Det blev besluttet, at vi skulle have debatten nu for, at hr. Dalsager kunne være til stede.
I am very happy to get the policing solved, but the whole fishing policy is under threat.
Det er jeg ikke et øjeblik i tvivl om.
The bones — as the Clyde fishermen say — are not there in the policy.
Hr. Dalsager er her ikke, men vi har ikke færre end fire kommissærer, hvoraf den ene er formanden for Kommissionen.
The Shetland fishermen support me, and all the fishing associations in Scotland support in writing the need for a separate commitee.
Efter min mening må det være tilstrækkeligt, og jeg synes, vi skal fortsætte.
Now this is not to detract from the working group, but to enhance it.
Vi bør ikke spilde tiden; derfor forstår jeg, at vi går videre med debatten.
It is collapsing. There are no agreements on quotas this late in the year.
Vi må finde frem til en fornuftig løsning, der kan accepteres af forsamlingen.
Agriculturalists are not necessarily interested in fishing, though some are.
Horst Langes (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne opfordre vore kolleger — også hr. Provan — til at vi nu ikke skifter emne.
Mr Contogeorgis, Alember of the Commission. — (GR) Mr President, first of all I would like to express my regret at Mrs Ewing's remark that I was not listening to her.
Provan (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg har to bemærkninger til forretningsordenen.
Mr President, there are two matters which have been touched upon.
Jeg anmodede Kommissionen om utvetydigt at forsikre os om, at der ikke har været tale om uretmæssige tildelinger af midler.
Firstly, the appointment of the 13 fishery inspectors of the Community and, secondly and more generally, the common fisheries policy.
Denne forsikring blev ikke givet under debatten.
I shall reply to each one individually.
Parlamentets præsidium udtalte, át en forhandling af en times varighed var mulig.
This job was completed on 25 July 1983 and seven inspectors were chosen for employment.
Denne skulle finde sted i går før afstemningen.
These inspectors have already been appointed and will take up their duties in three days, that is on 16 October 1983.
Plenarmødet foretrak så at afslutte drøftelsen og stemme om tillægsbudgettet.
I should point out that for the employ ment of these people and for their secondment to the departments of the Commission, the consent of the national administrations was required, because, as I said before, all of them were serving in national administrations.
Det bliver således ved præsidiets beslutning om, at forhandlingen om hr. Tugendhats redegørelse afholdes i dag fra kl. 15.00 til kl. 16.00.
The remaining six inspectors, Mr President, who will come from the same list of candidates, will be appointed and will begin their service before the end of 1983 at any rate.
Jeg vil med hensyn det spørgsmål, som vi drøfter i øjeblikket — debatten om Kommissionens redegørelse i går — anmode.Dem om at hæve mødet, indtil der er opnået en tilfredsstillende ordning mellem Kommissionen og Dem, således at debatten, som blev godkendt af præsidiet, kan findet sted.
The responsibility for controlling the implementation of Community resolutions with respect to fishing activities in Community waters belongs to the member countries, who must implement the Community resolutions strictly with their national institutions and with the means of imposition available to them.
Davignon, næstformand i Rommissionen. — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg har bedt om ordet til det indlæg til forretningsordenen, der lige er kommet frem, og som refererer, hvis De tillader det, til spørgsmålet om fiskeriinspektører.
The national administrations will receive assistance in these efforts from the Community inspectors, who will supervise correct implementation of the Community resolutions on behalf of the Commission.
Hvis dette er tilfældet — han er her jo og kan sige ja eller nej — opfordres han til at fremsætte denne redegørelse først, så kan vi drøfte to redegørelser — den fra hr. Tugendhat og den fra hr. Thorn.
On this point, Mr President, I would like to say the following: apart from the 13 inspectors, the Commission asked for 35 officials to be employed to man the relevant fishery services.
Under alle omstændigheder bør vi begynde med dette nu.
During discussion of the supplementary budget for 1983, the Council reduced the number from 35 to 12 and, according to my information, Parliament approved this reduction in the budget vote.
Formanden. — Kære kolleger, jeg tror, vi alle er enige nu og går så over til at debattere hr. Tugendhat's erklæring, som det blev meddelt i går, i en time.
I think that reducing the number of officials asked for by the Commission to a third does not take enough account of the need for suitable manning of the fishery services.
Jeg havde det privilegium at deltage for Kommissionen i forhandlingen om fiskeriinspektører, og jeg forstår ikke det ærede medlems mangel på forståelse.
Mr President, the debate became a general one on the whole of the commonfisheries policy, and it was remarked that this policy is collapsing.
Svaret på dette spørgsmål er: pengene står endnu på denne budgetpost.
With the decisions taken by the last Council on 4 October
Der er en utrolig forvirring inden for Kommissionen, og jeg må drage den konklusion, at kommissærerne ikke taler sammen! Hvorfor er land-
The announcement for applications to fill these positions was published in March.
Andet spørgsmål: er pengene fuldstændig brugt?
The closing date for applications was 31 May 1983.
Jeg kan slet ikke se, på hvilke punkter Kommissionen ikke har svaret det ærede medlem.
This announcement was repeated in April to give it a wide circulation and to reach
de la Malène (DEP). — (FR) Jeg ville nu sætte mere pris på, at man ikke gør grin med vort Præsidiums og vor forsamlings beslutninger.
— or if may put it bluntly, where these funds have been frittered away, since they were there after all.
Vi udsatte forhandlingen til i eftermiddag, udelukkende fordi hr. Dalsager ikke kunne være til stede, og fordi vi fik at vide, at han gerne ville komme for at tale til os.
I should like to ask the Commission, i.e. all the Commissioners, but the President of the Commission in particular, to explain this situation either today or tomorrow.
De skal give ham ordet og sige, at han skal tale, og bagefter debat tere vi.
What you made was in fact a political statement.
Vi har vedtaget, at der vil blive en kort forhandling om hr. Tugendhats redegørelse.
Mr Contogeorgis, Member of the Commission. — (GR) Mr President, I would like to repeat that the seven inspectors have already been appointed.
Gårsdagens forhandling er afsluttet, hr. formand.
This proves that the funds have not been used for other purposes.
Det drejer sig om på Kommissionens opfordring — og jeg understreger: på Kommissionens opfordring — at lytte til det ansvarlige kommissionsmedlem og så forhandle.
For technical reasons, and also because we wanted to select the most suitable candidates, it was not possible to appoint all 13 at once.
Thorn, formand for Rommissionen. — (FR) Hr. formand, kunne jeg gennem Dem bede de ærede medlemmer af denne Forsamling om at være så venlige at redegøre, om jeg så må sige, for deres stilling? ling?
concerning artificial protection measures and with the adoption of the two regulations and a directive concerning the implementation of structural measures, the resolutions of January are completed.
Det ærede parlamentsmedlem har uden tvivl over drevet — det er jo hvad der kan ske, selv for et parlamentsmedlem — når han siger, at der var forvirring og mangel på forståelse på kommissionsplan.
Of course, the taxes and quotas for 1983 have not yet been decided despite the fact that the Commission's proposals have been in since spring and we are now at the end of the year.
von der Vring (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne fremhæve, at Parlamentet har relationer til Kommissionen.
But the Commission is not to blame for that.
Alle Parlamentets relationer til kommissions medlemmer bygger på høflighed og er ikke institutionelle relationer.
The Commission has made its proposals and has applied pressure to accelerate the process.
Vi har hørt Kommissionens redegørelse — Kommissionen var villig til at diskutere med os.
There have been successive Councils and at the last one on 3 and 4 October concerning the disputed herring question, the Commission submitted a new compromise proposal to cover this and certain other small differences.
Hvem der repræsenterer Kommissionen og hvornår, det kan vi udtale os om privat, men det er ikke noget institutionelt spørgsmål.
Unfortunately, the Council could not agree and the Commission shares Parliament's concern at the lack of agreement on taxes and quotas.
Jeg vil gerne opfordre til, at vi nu afholder den egentlige forhandling.
A new Council has been set for 19 October, that is next Tuesday.
Der står folk på talerlisten, som har hørt redegørelsen, og som endnu ikke har fået ordet og ønsker det nu.
The Commission has done and is doing what it can to bring the various views closer together.
Når formanden for Kommissionen nu er til stede, er det så meget desto bedre, fordi han bagefter så har mulighed for at udtale sig.
Mrs Ewing also remarked that it is necessary to set up a special parliamentary committee on fisheries.
Men Parlamentet skal ikke opføre sig som en børnehave.
This matter certainly does not concern the Commission, it concerns Parliament.
Når dette er sagt, så vil jeg sige, at i går læste vor næstformand, hr. Tugendhat på vor opfordring — for hvem kan i denne høje Forsamling være uvidende om, at vi er et kollegium — en redegørelse, som han havde udformet på Kommissionens vegne.
And I think that in the past the setting up of this committee by Parliament was not passed because of lack of funds.
På grundlag af denne gik De i gang med forhandlingen.
The Commission would be pleased to see such a committee set up.
Derfor deltager han i øjeblikket i det britiske konservative partis kongres. Når man ser på betydningen af forhandlingen her, så synes jeg, det er naturligt, at formanden for Kommissionen deltager personligt, ledsaget af seks medlemmer.
Absolute priority has been given to all fishery matters, and I think that during the period of service of the present Commission resolutions have been made in the fish eries sector which it had not been possible to make for six years. (Applause)
Formanden. — Hr. Dalsager er lige kommet.
Mrs Ewing (DEP). — Mr President, I just want to apologize to Mr Contogeorgis.
Jeg vil spørge ham, om han ønsker at få ordet med det samme, eller efter forhandlingen.
With them on it was my impression that Commissioner Contogeorgis was in the front seat. I do apologize.
Dalsager, medlem af Rommissionen. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg foretrækker at vente til efter forhandlingen for først at høre, spørgsmålene.
President. — The debate is closed. '
Thorn, medlem af Kommissionen. — (FR) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, jeg ved, at De har meget på dagsordenen.
President. — The next item is the motion for a resolution (Doc. 1-834/83) by Mr Wagner and others, on behalf of the Socialist Group, on the crisis in the European steel industry.
Når vi er her, så er det ikke for at unddrage os en forhandling.
I am in a very difficult situation owing to pressure of time.
I går hørte De næstformanden, hr. Tugendhat udtale sig på Kommissionens vegne.
In fact, there are four Members down to speak on this motion, but there is not enough time left to hold a debate and to vote.
Tillad mig med al den respekt, jeg skylder hr. de la Malene og i al venskabelighed at sige, at vi er til stede her i dag for at svare.
Mr Helms (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, I should like, if I may, to make a personal statement.
Efter hvad jeg har hørt, og jeg har kontrolleret det, så er det ikke fuldstændig nøjagtigt, hr. de la Malene, at påstå, at Kommissionen har sagt, at hr. Dalsager vil komme med en redegørelse.
As I stressed at the beginning of this debate, this resolution is addressed directly to the President of the Commission since this was a very delicate matter within the Commission which needed to be cleared up.
Visse medlemmer af det udvidede præsidium har sagt, at de ønskede, at han ville komme med en redegørelse.
Unfortunately we would not appear to have received an adequate answer, although our cooperation with Mr Contogeorgis is otherwise excellent and even though it was explained in the fisheries working group that the fisheries department of the Commission was not responsible in this case.
Det vil ikke sige, at Kommissionen har forpligtet sig. Den er et kollegium, der selv be stemmer, hvem der taler i dens navn.
For this reason, I should like to ask the President of the Commission once more before this House how the ample funds earmarked for fisheries inspectors were in fact spent
Vi er til stede, og hr. Dalsager er til stede. Vi unddrager os altså ikke forhandlingen.
But in that case I would point out straight away that in the text which Mr Wagner and I have tabled paragraphs 1 and 5 should be deleted.
Ville det ikke være en god idé, hr. formand, at begynde på forhandlingen?
President. — I note your statement. Do the other speakers also agree to dispense with the debate ?
Sutra (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, sjældent i mit politiske liv har jeg set en så stor fordrejning mellem indhold og form som i den redegørelse, hr. Tugendhat kom med i går på Kommissionens vegne.
Mr Welsh (ED). — I am very happy to give up because I do not know why we are debating this at all, but since Mr Glinne has withdrawn his two paragraphs, I would like to withdraw part D of the preamble to my group's amendment on the same basis.
Vi lever i et samfund, der bliver mere og mere kontraktpræget, både blandt os selv og i vore forbindelser med AVS-landene.
You cannot at this stage — as the President quite rightly did yesterday — change the agenda in such a way or only to permit questions since otherwise Parliament can go home and we will have no more need of Commission representatives.
Det er den oprindelige tanke bag Europa, og det kan blive den eneste chance for fred på i hele verden.
In other words, we can abandon the whole thing.
Horst Langes (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, det glæder mig, at formanden for Kommissionen og mange kommissionsmedlemmer er til stede.
IN THE CHAIR : MR VANDEWIELE
Når jeg tænker på drøftelserne om budgetsituation i budgetudvalget i de seneste uger, må jeg give hr. Tugendhat ret, når han i går udtalte, at vi kan klare finansieringen til november måned.
Thus, in accordance with yesterday's agreement, you must allow this hour's debate to be held — and we insist on this point.
Vi har således oplevet, at Kommissionen i de seneste dage og uger i grunden har modsagt sig selv, ikke klart har informeret offentligheden herunder også Parlamentet.
I hope that, as announced, President Thorn will also begin by making a statement which we can subsequently deal with in the debate itself.
Jeg understreger derfor for det europæiske folkepartis gruppe følgende fire punkter:
There is nothing in the Rules of Procedure to prevent him from doing so.
Et møde, der bliver højtideligt afbrudt, annonceret og ændret tidspunkt, hvor der forud har været såkaldte hemmelige møder med 50 journalister ved udgangen, små sætninger udpønset i Athen af andre medlemmer af Kommissionen eller deres ministre, hvorfor, hvis ikke for at »oparbejde« en vildledende kampagne.
President. — (NL) Ladies and gentlemen, the Commission's statement must not, in accordance with Rule 40 (2) of the Rules of Procedure, necessarily be followed by a debate.
I mit land er man ikke bange for at sige tingene rent ud, og om EF siger man: »fallitbo, betalingsstandsning, bankerot«.
Members may, however, put succinct and very specific questions for a total of 30 minutes to eludicate particular aspects of the state ment.
For det andet: Vi ved også, at det er nødvendigt, at vi gør os overvejelser om landbrugspolitikken, og vi har i Parlamentet med stort flertal fremsat en mængde forslag til dette punkt.
The President thus announced yesterday afternoon that he wished to respect the rights of those speakers already listed by proposing to give them the floor either yesterday after noon before the vote or today at the beginning of the afternoon debate.
Nu har hr. Tugendhat på glimrende måde svaret på vor kollega Pranchères glimrende spørgsmål, nemlig at alle de obligatoriske udgifter bliver dækket, og hr. Herman har meget rigtigt og meget belejligt tvunget ham til at præcisere, at man herved respekterer Romtraktaten.
President. — Ladies and gentlemen, we are all conscious that the Commission has collegiate responsibility : if Mr Andriessen tells us that the Commission is represented and prepared to proceed with the debate, then we must accept the fact.
Til slut en bemærkning om den fælles landbrugspolitik, som denne forhandling gælder.
I therefore request, in the name of my committee, that we should have an hour's debate.