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Med andre ord mener udvalget ikke, at det er nødvendigt at begrænse brugen af midlertidigt beskæftigede, forudsat at disse beskæftigede får fuld social beskyttelse — en betingelse, der kan opfyldes inden for fem år.
These things can be achieved only through strict control of temporary employment and through a directive designed to prevent abuse by the various undertakings involved in the temporary employment system.
Det er altså de brede målsætninger.
Here, however, we must draw the attention of the competent agencies.
Efter at have lyttet til forhandlingen, mener jeg, det er rimeligt at sige, at der er en bred enighed i de rhindste om målsætningerne.
Because, in fact, the force of articles 3 and ¡5 of the proposal for a directive, which lay down the circumstances in which the employer may offer casual or fixed term employ ment, is considerably reduced by the inserted exemption which provides the opportunity for wide deviation in cases where those employed temporarily enjoy the social benefits provided for permanent employees.
Hvis man se på, hvad Parlamentet hidtil har sagt om midlertidig beskæftigelse samt om dette forslag til beslutning, der er forelagt Parlamentet, sporer jeg faktisk en bred enighed om, at disse målsætninger er de rigtige, og også at et bindende fællesskabsdirektiv er det rigtige middel til at realisere dem.
Though this exemption is understandable it is likely to lead to the commencement of new abuses and to render the directive as a whole worthless.
Jeg forstår det således, at der bag dette ligger et ønske om at tillade og endog fremme udviklingen af virkarbureau-aktivi-teter i de medlemsstater, hvor der for øjeblikket er forbud mod eller meget strenge bestemmelser for udbud af midlertidigt beskæftigede.
In finishing I would like to thank the rapporteur, Mr Patterson, who, with his excellent report, has contributed greatly to the making of improvements to the Commission's text which I hope the latter will adopt after they have been approved by the European Parliament. ment.
Kommissionens synspunkt er ganske enkelt, at betingelsen ikke kan opfyldes fuldt ud.
The second objective is the protection of permanent work.
Problemet her er ikke, om det er ønskværdigt, men om det er gennem førligt.
The Commission recognizes the need for a genuine degree of flexibility in the labour market and believes that temporary work is one of the important means of ensuring this.
Kommissionen mener, det kan gennenføres i specifikke tilfælde, derfor begrænsningen i artikel 3, stk. 4, og artikel 15, stk. 4.
At the same time, however, we do believe that permanent work should be the norm and that the need for flexibility should not be exaggerated to the point where temporary contracts become a convenience for avoiding the greater commitments of permanent contract.
Men en midlertidig ansættelseskontrakts beskaffenhed gør det. illusorisk at skabe fuldstændig ligestilling på tværs af grænserne.
We therefore attempt to define where the dividing line between the two should be.
Hvad med alle de rettigheder, der er afhængige af anciennitet for eksempel?
The third objective is perhaps the least controversial.
Jeg er slet ikke sikker på, at et krav om fuldstændig beskyttelse under alle omstændigheder giver et nødvendige spillerum for fleksibilitet, når der virkelig er behov herfor.
That is to ensure that agencies which supply temporary workers are properly regulated, ensuring a better service for both workers and user undertakings within the Member States but, perhaps more important, between the Member States.
Når der ikke er fuldstændig beskyttelse, er der behov for permanente — ikke midlertidige — begrænsninger.
Mr Richard, Member of the Commission. — Madam President, I found this a very interesting debate.
Disse begrænsninger bør ikke være vagt formulerede som i forslaget til beslutning; vi mener, man bør specificere de tilfælde, hvor adgang til midlertidig ansættelse er berettiget.
Perhaps in a sense, it concentrated a little too much on the details and not so much on the broad general approach.
Det går vores artikel 3 ud på.
Some of the contributions I found fascinating.
En medlemsstat behøver ikke vælge mellem adgangsbegrænsninger og fuldstændig beskyttelse.
Mr Chanterie wants the Commission to make sure that its temporary employees are made more permanent.
Jeg må sige til Parlamentet, at dette ikke er en af Kommissionens målsætninger.
As far as the Commission is concerned, this is a difficult dossier.
Vi kan ikke se hvorfor et forbud mod eller en stærk begrænsning af midlertidigt arbejde skulle skabe en konkurrencefordel for de involverede medlemsstater.
I would like at the outset to thank honourable Members for the careful work that they have put into it.
En sådan harmonisering er derfor overflødig.
Particularly, may I mention the rapporteur, Mr Patterson.
Under alle omstændigheder ligger en sådan opfattelse af etableringsfrihed uden for Kommissionens forestillinger om det foreliggende direktiv.
He has done a great deal of detailed work, and I think it is right therefore that where I disagree with him I should say why.
Desuden vil harmoniseringsforslaget afgjort være uacceptabelt for Rådet.
Those then, Madam President, are the broad aims.
Dette er ikke tilstrækkelig grund til ikke at foreslå noget, men det er en yderligere grund til, at Kommissionens ikke ønsker at ændre sit forslag i så henseende.
Having listened to the debate, I think it is fair to say that there is a broad measure of agreement, at least about the aims.
Et sidste punkt ved dette aspekt er, at socialudvalgets indstilling ville være i modstrid med de principper, der blev formuleret af Domstolen i Webb-sagen, i henhold til hvilken en medlemsstat kan tage lokale arbejdsmarkedsforhold i betragtning, når den nægter en virksomhed tilladelse til at udbyde midlertidig beskæftigelse i hele eller dele af sit territorium. Dette ville helt klart være umuligt
Looking at what Parliament has said in the past about temporary work, as well as this motion for a resolution before the House, I do detect a broad consensus that these objectives are the right ones and also that a binding Community directive is the right means of realizing them.
Jeg mener, dette er en »idealløsning«, der kun har ringe mulighed for at blive vedtaget. Kun i
Let me say at the outset that the Commission will wish to look at its position again in the light of this
Forbundsrepublikken Tyskland er en sådan regel del af national ret.
The Social Affairs Committee wishes to see the conditions for the authorization of temporary employment businesses in the Member States harmonized within a few years.
Selv der anvendes reglen ikke fuldt ud, eftersom der kan ses bort fra den ved bestemmelser i kontrakten.
The aim would be to ensure that a temporary employment business authorized in one Member State would be entitled to pursue its activities in any other Member State without fulfilling anyfurther authorization requirements.
De fleste kontrakter med midler tidigt beskæftigede indgås ikke overraskende for en fastsat periode.' og igen i slutningen sagde jeg helt specifikt, at Kommissionen ville tage sin stilling op til fornyet overvejelse i lyset af det, Parlamentet havde sagt, den udtalelse, Parlamentet vedtog, og Parlamentets syn på ændringsforslagene.
As I understand it, what lies behind this is a desire to allow and even to encourage the development of temporary employment business activities in those Member States where the supply of temporary workers is currently prohibited or very strictly circumscribed.
Selvfølgelig vil jeg ikke give et generelt løfte om, at jeg vil acceptere alle ændrings forslag, lige som jeg heller ikke vil give et generelt løfte om, at jeg vil forkaste alle ændringsforslag.
problem here is not whether that would be desirable but whether it would be feasible.
Jeg er kommet til denne forhandling med forhåbentligt et relativt åbent sind for at lytte til Parlamentets kollektive visdom.
The Commission believes it may be feasible in specific cases, hence the derogation in our Articles 3(4) and 15(4).
Hvis hr. van Minnen forventer mere af mig på nuværende tidspunkt end dette, kan jeg kun sige, at han forlanger for meget.
But the nature of a temporary employment contract is such that complete across-the-board equality of treatment is illusory.
Formanden. — Forhandlingen er afsluttet.
What about all the rights that depend on seniority, for instance ?
Afstemningen finder sted i næste afstemningstid.
I am not at all sure that an insistence on complete protection in all circumstances would give the necessary margin of flexibility for when that is genuinely needed.
Tyrrell (ED). — (EN) Fru formand, jeg ønskede at stille kommissær Richard et spørgsmål med udgangspunkt i mit eget indlæg.
In the absence of complete protection, permanent — not transitional — limits on recourse are required.
Har Kommissionen foretaget en vurdering af disse forslags virkning på beskæftigelsessituationen, specielt de små virksomheder?
Such limits should not be vaguely worded, as in the motion for a resolution ; we think they should specify the cases in which recourse to temporary workers is justified. That is our Article 3.
Jeg ved, han dækkede emnet meget grundigt, og det er afgjort kun, fordi selv den gode Homer sov, at han ikke besvarede dette spørgsmål.
The two safeguards could exist in parallel, and, contrary to a comment made in the report, temporary workers who are employed under a 'limits on recourse regime' would not be without social protection.
Jeg ser gerne, at han med Deres tilladelse får lejlighed til at gøre det nu.
All the other provisons of the direc tive would apply.
Hidtil har jeg kun talt om bestemmelserne, der angår et trekantsforhold, der involverer et vikarbureau.
I have to say to the House that this is not one of the Commission's aims.
Med hensyn til tosidede kontrakter af fast varighed accepterer socialudvalget stort set de begrænsninger i adgangen til midlertidige beskæftigelse, der er fore slået af Kommissionen, men foreslår en vagere og mere fleksibel formulering.
We see no grounds for regarding the banning or strict limiting of temporary work as creating a competitive advantage for the Member States concerned. Such a harmonization would there fore be superfluous.
Jeg mener imidlertid, at den reelle uenighed ligger mellem dem, der i det væsentlige støtter vor politik, og dem, der i det hele taget principielt er imod vedtagelsen af et direktiv på dette område.
In any case, this sort of freedom-of-establishment approach is outside the Commis sion's conception of the present directive.
Det er Kommissionens synspunkt, at denne del af direktiv forslaget er et nødvendigt og naturligt supplement til den foregående del.
Moreover, the harmonization option is certain to be unacceptable to the Council.
Hvis det er nødvendigt med større begrænsninger og mere kontrol med hensyn til den type midlertidig beskæfti gelse, som bureauerne tager sig af, er en lignende om end ikke identisk kontrolforanstaltning nødvendig for tosidede forhold.
This is not a sufficient reason for not proposing something, but it is an added reason for the Commission not to wish to change its proposal in this respect.
Ikke alene, fordi man ellers simpelt hen risikerer en forskydning fra den ene type til den anden, men også fordi der opstår lignende problemer. Vi har med vilje gjort artikel 15 lidt mere fleksibel end artikel 3, for vi mener ikke, problemerne er nøjagtig de samme.
A final point on this aspect is that the Social Affairs Committee's approach would be contrary to the principles enunciated by the Court of Justice in the Webb case, whereby, a Member State may take local labour market conditions into account in refusing authorization to engage in the supply of temporary workers on all or on part of its territory.
Jeg håber ikke et, at Parlamentet vil stemme for de ændringsforslag, som søger at få dette afsnit fjernet helt.
This would clearly be impossible within the framework of harmonized authorization producers.
Fru formand, der er stillet så mange ændringsforslag, og mange af dem har et reelt indhold, så det er vanskeligt at se det sandsynlige resultat af denne forhandling.
Even there the rule is not fully applied, since it may be waived by contractual provision.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er betænkning (dok.
The second difference of approach is probably the most important.
van Minnen (S). — (NL) Fru formand, kommissæren talte netop om, at bestemt ikke alle foreslåede ændringer vil blive overtaget.
It concerns Articles 3 and 15, where a balancing act between the first two objectives I mentioned at the beginning has to be performed.
Han mente dermed således de 138 stillede ændringsforslag.
Do we simply require that temporary workers should have full social protection, or do we limit recourse to temporary work, or do we try to combine the two approaches ?
Men jeg vil gerne have oplyst kommissærens holdning, navnlig med hensyn til forskellen på, at kommissæren fraråder visse ændringsforslag, og muligheden for, at han alligevel ikke gennemfører de ændringer, der er vedtaget af Parlamentet.
Secondly after a transitional period of five years to allow the condition to be fulfilled, Member States may prohibit altogether the conclusion of labour supply contracts, except in cases where it is foreseen that the post concerned would be available only for a limited period.
Skal jeg opfatte kommissærens ord blot som et råd, eller betyder det en betinget trussel — hvis vi ikke følger hans gode råd — om at ville henlægge ændringsforslagene fra udvalget om sociale anliggender og beskæftigelse?
In other words, the committee believes that no limits on recourse to temporary workers are necessary, provided that such workers receive full social protection — a condition which could be fulfilled within five years.
Boyes (S), ordfører. — (EN) Det er rart at få lejlighed til igen at tale om dette livsvigtige emne for Europas befolkning.
So far I have talked only about the provisions concerning the triangular relationships involving a tempoary work agency.
I de seneste år har vi været inde i en meget stor krise i vort kapitalistiske system, og det er beklageligt, at de folk, der er mindst ansvarlige for krisen, har skullet betale den højeste pris.
Where bilateral fixed duration contracts are concerned, the Social Affairs Committee accepts in broad terms the limits on recourse proposed by the Commission but suggests a vaguer and more flexible formulation.
Det ville måske her i eftermiddag have været relevant, om vi havde drøftet løsninger på nogle af de store problemer, de fattige er udsat for, en plan om en ny og anderledes økonomisk orden. Det er imidlertid ikke emnet for debatten.
I think the real debate, however, is between those who broadly support our approach and those who are opposed in principle to the adoption of a directive in this field at all.
Dette er endnu en mulighed for os som parlamentarikere at bruge Parlamentet til at fremlægge de problemer, som de fattige har, og håbe, at Kommissionen vil støtte det, Parlamentet kræver.
If greater restrictions and controls are necessary in relation to the kind of temporary work dealt with by agencies, a similar though not identical measure of control is required for the bilateral relation ship.
Jeg ved, at kommissær Richard går ind for endnu en række projekter, og jeg håber blot, at han på andre steder kan have held i sin argumentation for
Not just because you otherwise risk simply causing a shift from one to the other, but also because very similar problems arise.
Boyes at få medlemsstaterne til at gå ind for, at de gennem føres.
I would like him to have an opportunity to do so now, if you would be so kind as to let him.
Man kan ikke have et 'meget stort antal mennesker, der lever i ydmyg fattigdom, og man kan ikke have andre mennesker, der nyder gavn af kapitalismen, uden spændinger og grundninger i vort samfund.
I hope very much that Parliament will not vote in favour of amendments which would seek to have this section removed altogether.
Efter at dette er sagt, kan man kun give kommissær Richard ret, når han siger, at alle vore demokratiske processer er i fare.
The Commissioner has replied broadly to all the points raised by the House.
Og' der er ingen, der har været opstillet for dette Parlament eller noget andet parlament, der ikke ønsker at forsvare demokratiets parlamentariske system.
If there are other questions, it will be possible perhaps for Commissioner Richard to say something further when the voting time comes.
Mange mennesker arbejder mange timer under vanskelige forhold for at hjælpe dem, der lever under de allervanskeligste forhold.
Madam President, so many amendments have been tabled and so many of them are substantive ones that it is difficult to see the likely outcome of this debate.
Jeg ønsker også at takke alle dem, der gennem de seneste fem år har taget del i denne første række projekter om fattigdom.
I am optimistic, however, that the House will adopt a broadly supportive opinion in line with its previous resolutions on this subject, even if there are some important differences.
Nogle af disse projekter var mangel fulde lige fra starten; nogle af dem på grund af de begrænsede tidsrum — to eller tre år — resulterer uundgåeligt i mangelfuldhed.
I would end by repeating my undertaking to look at the proposals again with a view to seeing how these differences can be narrowed in the light of this debate and of Parliament's opinion.
Men i konklusionerne, der er veldokumenteret i både Kommissionens rapport og i en bog af fire forfattere — Bennett, James, Roome og Watson — bliver betydningen af disse første projekter faktisk understreget.
President. — The next item is the report (Doc. 1-1337/82) by Mr Boyes, on behalf of the Committee on Social Affairs and Employment, on the final report from the Commission to the Council on the first programme of pilot schemes and studies to combat povery.
I deres bog siger de, at der var fire vigtige konklusioner, som programmerne har påvist.
Mr Van Minnen (S). — (NL) Madam President, the Commissioner has just said that the Commission will certainly not be able to agree to all the proposed changes.
For det første at fattigdommen forværredes i 70'erne.
He was thus alluding to the 138 amend ments that have been tabled.
For det andet at fattigdom på ingen måde er begrænset til marginale grupper af Europas befolkning.
We can reassure him in one respect: it can safely be said that not all 138 amendments will be adopted.
Desuden siges det i programmet, at nye former for afsavn, for fattigdom, i 80'erne sandsynligvis vil blive et stigende antal menneskers skæbne.
But I should like the Commissioner to explain his position, particularly as regards the discrepancy between the Commissioner's advising against certain amendments and the possibility of his not incorporating amendments adopted by Parliament.
Endelig at fattigdom er et alment europæisk problem, selv om det antager forskellige former i de forskellige medlemsstater.
Am I to understand the Commis sioner's words simply as advice or as a veiled threat that, if we reject his advice, he will ignore the amend ments proposed by the Committee on Social Affairs and Employment ?
Vi skal således faktisk have et system til blotlægning, men også på en mere positiv side til udveksling — måder, hvorpå vi kan løse fattigdomsproblemerne.
Mr Boyes (S), rapporteur. — It is good to have an opportunity again to speak on this vitally important subject for the people of Europe.
Hvis der gøres erfaringer i et land i Europa, og man kan drage nytte af det i andre lande, bør vi fastlægge metoder til at gøre dette.
Over the past few years we have been in a very deep crisis in our capita listic system and it was regrettable that the people that are least responsible for the crisis have had to pay the heaviest price.
Der bør tages speciel hensyn til konsekvenserne af langtidsarbejdsløsheden. Hvad sker der med de unge, der deltager i korte fagkurser, og så igen skal leve af arbejdsløshedsunderstøttelse?
This is another opportunity for us as parliamentarians to use this Parliament to expose the problems that the poor are experiencing and hope that the Commission will support what Parliament asks for.
Hvad er de patogene virkninger af arbejdsløsheden, og hvilke trængsler står de ældre ikke over for?
1 know that Commissioner Richard is in favour of a second set of projects and I only hope that he can successfully argue in other places to get Member States to agree to their being carried out.
Hvis vi således kan bygge på disse konklusioner, kan man kun fastslå, at vi har brug for endnu en række projekter.
Mr Richard, Aiember of the Commission. — Madam President, I am a little surprised, if I may say so, at that intervention from Mr van Minnen.
Årsagen til, at jeg siger dette, er, at hvis vi skal definere, hvilke mennesker, der lever i fattigdom — vi kender de traditionelle grupper som de ældre, de etniske grupper, vandrende arbejdstagere, de handicappede osv. — skal vi nu dertil føje et stadigt stigende antal arbejdsløse.
At the begin ning of my speech and again at the end of my speech, I said quite specifically that the Commission would look again at its position in the light of what Parliament had said, the opinion Parliament adopted and the views it took on the amendments.
Dette fører til et samfund, hvor der er en massiv kløft mellem de »besiddende« og de »besiddelsesløse«; kløften vokser hver dag mellem de fattige og dem, der ikke er så fattige.
I have come to this debate, with what I hoped was a relatively open mind, in order to listen to the collective wisdom of this House.
Og dette skaber spændinger i vort samfund, spændinger, som vi skal se i øjnene.
If Mr van Minnen expects more of me at this stage than that, all I can say is that he is asking too much.
Før man begynder at sige, at dette er et par venstreorienterede marxisters vidtløftige tanker, lad mig frem komme med to citater til understregning af dette punkt.
When I spoke previously on the poverty project I paid tribute to those who worked on the first programme and I wish to do that again. Many people work long hours under difficult circumstances to help those who are living in most difficult circumstances.
I Kommissionens endelige rapport tales der om udstødelsen som følge af fattigdom og især den manglende politisk stabilitet, som kan blive resultatet deraf.
I wish to pay a further tribute to all the people who have participated over the past five years in this first series of projects on poverty.
Boyes udgiftsprogrammer og til fornyet overvejelse, selv følgelig uden virkning i mange medlemsstater i Fællesskabet.
Finally, that poverty is a broad European problem, although it takes different forms in different Member States.
Jeg siger til Nigel Lawson, at det er en fornærmelse mod de 5 millioner arbejdsløse i Storbritannien og de 15 millioner arbejdsløse i Europa.
So we must in fact have some system of both exposing — but also on a more positive side of exchanging — ways in which we can deal with the poverty problems.
Er han klar over, at der i mit eget område, Tyne og Wear, er 100 000 arbejdsløse, og at der er 2 000 jobs til rådighed.
If we have experiences in one country in Europe and can take advantage of it in other countries, then we should determine methods of doing this.
Hvis man accepterer, at der er 2 000 mennesker, der ikke ønsker arbejde — at 2 000 ikke vil tage arbejde -r- er der 98 000 mennesker tilbage på understøttelse, og Lawson vover at sige dette til de mennesker, jeg repræsenter.
That is why my proposals and the Commission's proposals have put emphasis on the need for an anti-poverty clearing house to promote the dissemination of experience gained in efforts to combat poverty. We must have that.
Jeg mener, at det er en skandale.
But you know, not all governments are even interested in that.
Men efter at det er sagt, vil jeg og mange af mine kolleger — og forhåbentlig med Kommissionens støtte — hver dag bruge dette Parlament ved alle mulige lejligheder til at blotlægge de fattiges problemer.
I believe that the biggest number of people that we have to deal with are the unemployed and that is why not only in my own project you will see that a large emphasis is on unemployment.