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Natali, næstformand i Kommissionen. — (IT) Jeg skal først gøre opmærksom på, at de i hr. Alavanos' spørgsmål anførte procenttal ikke er nøjagtige.
Mr Natali, Vice-President of the Commission. — (IT) I must say first of all that the percentages quoted in Mr Alavanos's question are inaccurate.
Det et rigtigt, at Kommissionen havde foreslået en forhøjelse på 9 % for sukkerroer og henholdsvis 8 % og 10 % for tomater og ferskner.
It is true that the Commission had proposed a 9% increase in base prices for beet-root, and 8% and 10% increases in base prices for tomatoes and peaches respectively.
Som oplyst i formiddag af min kollega, hr. Dalsager, ændrede Kommissionen de to sidstnævnte procenttal til 9 % for tomater og til 12 % for ferskner.
As Mr Dalsager mentioned this morning, it subsequently changed the last two percentages, raising them to 9% for tomatoes and 12% for peaches.
Det bør i denne forbindelse ikke glemmes, at disse udvalgs udstyr og arbejdsmetoder naturligvis er tidrøvende.
Your other reference to the European Parliament's helpful support in extending the use for the fourth indent of Article 155 is in line with the requests which we have put to the European Council and which were mentioned just now in connection with the answer to Mr Junot's question.
Udstyret er småt og den tid, der går til afstemningsproceduren, er lang.
However, Mr Alavanos, you know perfectly well that in these proposals the common prices are expressed in ECUs and not in national currencies.
Der er her den egentlige flaskehals findes.
To these rates must also be added an increase due to agro-monetary measures.
På grundlag af de erfaringer, som vi for fremtiden kan indvinde ved flere standarder, vil vi skulle afgøre, på hvilken måde vi kan afhjælpe de flaskehalse, der findes i CENELEC.
I would also like to say — still in reference to the statistics quoted by Mr Alavanos — that, according to the most recent estimates available to the Commission, from February 1981 to February 1982 the rate of inflation in Greece was 19-5% and not 25%; production costs increased in 1982 by 23%, and not 30%.
Welsh. — (EN) Jeg finder Kommissionens svar temmelig foruroligende, for det forekommer mig, at Kommissionen går længere, end den bør, for at fremme øget produktion af varer, for hvilke der findes strukturelle overskud, og det har faktisk ikke noget at gøre med, om det er i Grækenland eller et andet sted.
Mr Welsh. — I find that answer by the Commissioner rather disturbing, because it seems to me that the Commission is going out of its way to encourage the increased production of goods that are in structural surplus, and it does not really matter whether it is in Greece or anywhere else.
Vil Kommissionen derfor over for os bekræfte, at uanset hvor i Fællesskabet der findes arbejdsløse arbejdere og forbrugere, så finder de det i allerhøjeste grad uacceptabelt at være nødt til at betale inflationspriser for landbrugsprodukter, for hvilke der findes strukturelle overskud. Måske kan kommissæren forklare hr. Alavanos det?
So could the Commission confirm for us that unemployed workers and consumers in the Community, wherever they may be, very much resent having to pay inflated prices for agricul tural products that are in fact in structural surplus, and perhaps he could explain that to Mr Alavanos?
Alavanos. — (GR) Jeg vil gerne sige, at hos os og hos de græske landmænd hersker der store forbehold med hensyn til Fællesskabets statistikker, og dette bringer Fællesskabet — og specielt Kommissionen med de oplysninger, som den fremlagde — i modsætning ikke kun til landmændenes repræsentanter, men til selve regeringen.
Mr Alavanos. — (GR) I should like to say that both we and Greek farmers have considerable reservations with regard to Community statistics, and this brings the Community — to be precise the Commission and its statistics — into conflict not only with farmers' representatives but also with the Greek Government.
Kommissionens oplysninger siger, at landmandens indkomst sidste år forøgedes med 1 eller 2 %, jeg husker ikke tallet, medens de oplysninger, som regeringer giver, taler om formindskelse af landmandens indkomst med mere end 7 %, hvis vi ikke tager den nationale støtte, som regeringen har ydet, i betragtning.
According to Commission figures, last year saw a 1 to 2% increase in farmers' incomes — I am not sure of the exact figure — whereas the government's figures show that farmers' incomes would have fallen by 7% and more without government assistance.
Om denne side af sagen vil gerne sig — jeg beklager det — at vi har mange forbehold med hensyn til de oplysninger, som kommissæren fremkom med om 17 % for tomater og 19 % for ferskner.
In this respect — and I am sorry to have to say this — we have considerable reservations over the figures provided by the Commissioner of 17% for tomatoes and 19% for peaches.
Natali. — (TT) Det er naturligvis et meget provokerende argument. Der provokeres her til en langt mere omfattende debat.
Mr Natali. — (IT) This is obviously a provocative statement which calls for a much more extensive debate.
Jeg mener, at Parlamentet allerede har ført en omfattende debat om problemerne i forbindelse med landbrugsproduktionen og eventuelle strukturelle overskud.
I believe that Parliament has already thoroughly discussed the problems of agricultural production and eventual structural surpluses.
Så jeg skal nøjes med at sige til spørgeren, at problemet med middelhavsområdets produkter naturligvis ikke alene kan behandles ud fra de strukturelle overskud, men at de også må anskues ud fra genskabelsen af en geografisk balance inden for Fællesskabet.
I will only say to Mr Welsh that obviously the problem of Mediterranean products cannot be examined only from the viewpoint of structural surpluses; it must also be seen in the light of the geographic rebalancing of the Community. munity.
Jeg vil gerne stille følgende tillagsspørgsmål: der tales og skrives om Fællesskabets hensyntagen til den høje inflation i Grækenland, og at man vil træffe de nødvendige støtteforanstaltninger.
I should like to take the opportunity here of asking the Commissioner this additional question: by all accounts the Community is going to take appropriate additional measures in view of the high rate of inflation in Greece.
Jeg vil gerne, selv om forhandlingerne om landbrugsprodukter er nået så langt frem, spørge, hvad disse nødvendige støtte foranstaltninger helt konkret er, således at vi ikke igen har samme fænomen som sidste år, hvor der noteredes en formindskelse af landmandens indkomst på 7 %.
I should like to ask, now that negotiations on agricultural products have got under way — what appropriate supplementary measures are being envisaged to avoid a repetition of this past year when agricultural incomes fell by 7%?
Formanden. — Da spørgeren ikke er til stede, vil spørgsmål nr. 22 blive besvaret skriftligt (').
President. — As the author is not present, Question No 22 will be answered in writing.'
Spørgsmål nr. 23 af Hutton (H-828/81):
Question No 23, by Mr Hutton (H-828/81):
Kan Kommissionen bekræfte, at der i de »prioriterede politiske målsætninger«, der omtales i informationsprogrammet for 1982, indgår en vedva-
Will the Commission confirm that the 'political priorities' referred to in the 1982 information programme include a continuing awareness of the state of public opinion — particularly in the United Kingdom — and of the need for a positive response to it?
Natali. — (IT) Hr. Alavanos vil også forstå, at det er ganske klart, at vi ikke her kan føre en lang debat om de græske forhold. Under hensyntagen til hr. Alavanos skepsis med hensyn til tallene, vil jeg dog citere en række tal, som — efter den økonomiske mekanisme, som blev fastsat ved Grækenlands tiltræden — viser, at i 1981 har Grækenland faktisk
Mr Natali. — (IT) It is obvious — as Mr Alavanos himself will understand — that even if we should hold an extensive discussion on the Greek situation, we certainly cannot do it now.
(') Se bilag af 21.4. 1982.
See Annex of 21. 4. 1982.
Hr. Ladas' besøg er den første officielle kontakt mellem Europa-Parlamentet og Cyperns parlament som omhandlet i associeringsaftalen EØF—Cypern af 1972.
Mr Ladas's visit represents the first official contact between the European Parliament and the Parliament of Cyprus as foreseen in the EEC-Cyprus Association Agreement of 1972.
Jeg byder derfor på Europa-Parlamentets vegne hr. Ladas hjertelig velkommen og ønsker ham et interessant og udbytterigt ophold i Strasbourg.
So therefore, on behalf of the European Parliament, I extend a warm welcome to Mr Ladas and wish him an interesting and fruitful stay in Strasbourg.
Hutton. — (EN) Når man tager den offentlige mening i adskillige medlemsstater i betragtning — den er baseret på løgne og fordrejede informationer — ville der så være midler til rådighed ud over den normale budgetbevilling til udvikling af nye initiativ rige projekter til bekæmpelse af den almindelige fjendtlige indstilling til Fællesskabet, måske også heri indbefattet rekruttering af regionale kontorer, som skulle bistå de nationale kontorer deres arbejde?
As far as certain specific regions — among them the United Kingdom — are concerned, I would like to point out that we have in fact created three offices in the UK — in Belfast, Cardiff, and Edinburgh — pre cisely in order to keep public opinion as well informed as possible.
Decharge for regnskabsåret 1980 (fortsættelse)
Discharges in respect of the 1980 financial year (continuation)
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er fortsættelse af forhandlingen under ét om ni betænkninger om decharge og andre budgetmæssige spørgsmål.
President. — The next item is the continuation of the joint debate on nine reports drawn up on behalf of the Committee on Budgetary Control, concerning the dis charges and other budgetary questions.
For så vidt angår specielt visse regioner, også Det forenede Kongerige, skal jeg erindre om, at vi netop i Det forenede Kongerige har oprettet tre kontorer — i Belfast, Cardiff og Edinburgh — netop i et forsøg på at informere offentligheden så godt som muligt.
Mr Prag. — While, as a former head of the European Communities' Information Office in London, I note with great pleasure that we now have a very highquality monthly magazine and at last, after three years, a new basic booklet on the Community, would the Commissioner not agree that there still remains a great deal to be done?
Ryan. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne bruge lidt af. de sparsomme tre minutter, som er blevet mig tildelt, til i lighed med andre at udtrykke min dybe beklagelse over, at min kollega og sidemand, Heinrich Aigner, budgetkontrollens konge, ikke er blandt os i dag, og til at udtrykke håbet om, at hans upasselighed bliver af kort varighed.
Mr Ryan. — Mr President, in the three minutes allotted to me to speak I want to use some of that very scarce time to join with others in expressing my deep regret that my colleague and neighbour, Heinrich Aigner, the king of budgetary control, is not with us today and express the hope that his indisposition will be of short duration.
Det ville efter min mening være forkert at diskutere budgetkontrol og meddelelse om decharge for et hvilket som helst år, uden at Parlamentet selv ser på det uacceptable ressourcespild, som Ministerrådet i kraft af sin beslutning om ikke at give Parlamentet et fast arbejdssted, påtvinger os.
It would be wrong, it seems to me, to discuss budget ary control and the issuing of discharge in respect of any year without Parliament itself looking at the unacceptable waste of resources forced upon the European Parliament by the Council of Ministers by virtue of their rule that Parliament may not have a single work ing place.
Prag. — (EN) Som tidligere leder af De europæiske Fællesskabers informationskontor i London er det mig en stor glæde at se, at vi nu har et månedligt tidsskrift af meget høj kvalitet og endelig efter tre år en ny grundbog om Fællesskabet, men er kommissæren ikke enig med mig i, at der stadig er meget der skal gøres?
President. — I wish to thank Members who have exerted considerable self-discipline when putting their supplementaries and as, I think, a consequence of this new self-discipline which the House recognizes, I would like to draw Members' attention to the fact that we have had during this Question Time ten members of the Commission, which I think is an innovation.
Det eneste punkt, jeg er uenig med ham i, er, hvor vægten skal lægges. Han sagde, at et privat foretagende ville gå fallit, hvis det fulgte vore retningslinjer.
The first part of Question Time is closed.1
Parlamentet vil gerne have et enkelt arbejdssted, men det er blevet forhindret i at tage denne fornuftige beslutning, som er påkrævet, ikke blot af omkostningsgrunde — noget, som er meget vigtigt — men også af hensyn til det effektive demokrati.
But we are not responsible for the unacceptable working conditions of Parliament, Par liament is not responsible for the waste of resources, the waste of time, the waste of taxpayers' money.
Formanden. — Jeg vil gerne takke medlemmerne, som har vist betydelig grad af selvdisciplin, når de har stillet deres tillægsspørgsmål, sandsynligvis som følge af den nye selvdisciplin i Parlamentet.
President. — I have much pleasure in recognizing in the distinguished visitors' gallery the President of the House of Representatives of the Republic of Cyprus, Mr George Ladas, who is paying an official visit to our Parliament.
Jeg vil gerne gøre opmærksom på, at vi løbet af denne spørgetid har haft ti medlemmer af Kommissionen til stede, hvilket vist er en fornyelse. På Parlamentets vegne vil jeg gerne takke de kommissærer, der har deltaget i
It therefore seems to me to be wrong that we should contemplate discharge in any year without drawing attention to the fact that Parliament has unacceptable working conditions because of considerations of national and municipal pride and greed.
Næstformand fast hjemsted for Parlamentet, har Europa et ineffektivt demokrati, fordi Parlamentet har uacceptable arbejdsvilkår. ,
It seems to me that Mr Forth has tabled a resolution without reading the report, because the report itself makes it quite clear that there has been a very significant improvement in the output of the Foundation in question and asks other institutions in Europe to adopt the work and management practices of the European Foundation in Dublin because by so doing they would cut costs and become more efficient.
Jeg finder det derfor forkert, at vi bare et eneste år skulle meddele decharge .uden at henlede opmærksomheden på den omstændighed, at Parlamentet har uacceptable arbejdsforhold og arbejder alt for dyrt som følge af national og kommunal grådighed.
It seems to me that there is little point in this Par liament consuming, as it does consume, a forest per year — a forest of about one thousand trees — pro ducing reports if Members who table amendments do not go to the trouble of reading the reports in the first instance.
Hord. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg har rejst mig for at støtte Key-betænkningen og på den måde give udtryk for min anerkendelse af den gode indsats, som vort budgetkontroludvalg har ydet gennem årene.
Mr Hord. — Mr President, I rise to support the Key report, and in doing so I recognize the good work which our Committee on Budgetary Control has done over the years.
Jeg tror, man kan sige, at udvalget har vist sig ansvarsfuldt, realistisk og konsekvent.
I think it can be said that the committee has been responsible, realistic and consistent.
Som bekendt er denne debat en udløber af sidste måneds forhandling om Aignerbetænkningen.
As we know, this debate follows on the debate last month on the Aigner report.
I denne bad Parlamentet om en række svar fra Kommissionen på ting, som vi mener, er mangler i dens eksportpolitik i 1980.
In that report Parliament called for a series of answers from the Commission on what we believe to be failings in their handling of their export policy during 1980.
Et af disse punkter, som min kollega, hr. Tyrrell, fremførte, var, at Kommissionen ved adskillige lejligheder i forbindelse med besvarelser af mundtlige og skriftlige fore spørgsler havde ført denne forsamling bag lyset, og at vi så sent som i november 1980 fik at vide, at Kommissionen ikke overskred det normale salg af landbrugsprodukter til USSR, mens vi for hvedes vedkommende siden erfarede, at der var sket en forøgelse på 340 gange.
One of these points brought'up by my colleague, Mr Tyrrell, was that the Commission has deceived this House on several occasions in the answers to oral and written questions and that as late as November 1980 we were told that the Commission was not exceeding the normal levels of sales of agricultural products to the USSR, whereas in the case of wheat, we subsequently learned, there was a 340-fold increase.
Det er selvfølgelig meget godt at sige, at De forenede Stater takker Kommissionen for denne indsats i forbindelse med embargoen, men jeg tror alligevel ikke, at De forenede Stater på linje med denne forsamling havde kendskab til kendsgerningerne, som først tilflød os senere.
It is all very well to say that the United States thanks the Commission for this work in regard to the embargo, but I think that the United States, rather like this House, Mr President, did not know the facts and the facts only came to us later.
Vi blev først i slutningen af 1981 klar over, hvor enormt store forhøjelser, der var sket.
It was only late in 1981 that we became aware of the horrendous increases which have taken place.
Jeg vil gerne sige, hr. formand, at vi stadig venter svar fra Kommissionen på, hvordan Kommissionen kan have budgetmyndighed, når man betænker, at budgetmyndighedens to grene i begyndelsen af 1980 efter invasionen af Afghanistan pålagde Kommissionen at begrænse salget til Rusland og østblokken.
Now I would suggest, Mr President, that we still wait for reply from the Commission as to how the Commis sion has budgetary authority, bearing in mind that in early 1980, after the invasion of Afghanistan, both arms of the budgetary authority instructed the Commission to restrict sales to Russia and the Eastern bloc.
Vi har stadig ikke fået svar.
We have heard nothing.
På trods af den megen debat og alle de fremsatte argumenter og forslag, har vi stadig ikke hørt noget.
Despite all the debate, all the arguments and the propositions put forward we still have heard nothing.
Derfor finder jeg det rigtigt, hr. formand, at forsamlingen på dette tidspunkt udbeder sig sandheden, den fulde sandhed, vedrørende Kommissionens holdning og praksis i eksportpolitikken over for USSR i 1980.
Therefore, I believe that it is right at this stage, Mr President, for this House to call for the truth, the whole truth, on the attitudes and the performance of the Commission in regard to its export policy in 1980 with regard to the USSR.
Man har efter min mening ikke efterlevet instrukserne om salgsrestriktioner, og det må nu være Kommissionens opgave at fortælle os, hvorfor den i 1980 ændrede på reglerne for betaling af eksporten til Rusland på en sådan måde, at der i 1981 dukkede tal op fra 1980, og hvorfor man i forbindelse med skriftlige og mundtlige forespørgsler førte Parlamentet bag lyset.
In my view they failed to invoke the instructions to restrict sales and it is up to them now to tell us why they changed the rules on payments on exports to Russia in 1980 so that figures for 1980 appeared in 1981, why they deceived the Parliament on written and oral questions.
Når dette er sket og først da, kan vi overveje at meddele decharge, hr. formand.
When they do this, and only when they do this, Mr President, can we consider discharge.
Det glædede mig, at hr. Patterson i dagens debat kom ind på situationen ved grænsen mellem republikken Irland og den del af Irland, som stadig er underlagt Det forenede Kongeriges jurisdiktion.
I was glad that reference was made in the debate today by Mr Patterson to the situation on the border between the Republic of Ireland and that part of Ireland which is still under the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom.
Han sagde, at der blev ødslet med Fællesskabets midler ved, at der sker en ulovlig overførsel, af varer, ikke én gang, men to og til tider endda i pendulfart over denne grænse med det formål hver gang at indkassere fællesskabspenge og også penge fra den irske skatteyder.
He said that there has been a waste of Community funds by virtue of the illegal passage of goods not once but twice and sometimes in a carousel across that border for the purpose of collecting Community funds and indeed also funds of the Irish tax payer.
Det er desværre sandt.
That is true.
Men jeg finder ikke, at en løsning på netop dette problem er noget, som ligger helt og fuldt inden for dette Fællesskabs område eller for den sags skyld inden for en af de berørte regeringers. Den bedste løsning ville være at ophæve den omtalte grænse, for hvis der ikke var en sådan, ville der ikke ske misbrug af offentlige midler på den irske ø.
But it seems to me that a solution to that particular problem is not something which lies entirely within the control of this Community or indeed of the governments in question other than to abolish the border in question because if there were no border then the abuse of the funds on the island of Ireland would not occur.
Det er nu engang sådan — og dette er børnelærdom — at så længe der et eller andet sted i verden kan tjenes penge på at smugle varer, er der også nogen, der vil gøre dette.
It is true — it is an axiom — that as long as profit can be made through the smug gling of goods anywhere in the world man will smug gle.
Det kan vi så beklage dybt — og faktisk både beklager og fordømmer vi det, men det er nu engang en kendsgerning og en følge af den menneskelige naturs svaghed, og derfor tror jeg ikke, at en ren og skær administrativ reform eller justering vil kunne løse netop dette problem på den irske ø eller for den sags skyld noget andet sted.
We might deplore that — in fact we do deplore it and we condemn it, but it happens to be a reality, it happens to be a consequence of the imperfections of human nature and, therefore, it seems to me that a pure administrative change or adjustment will not set tle that particular problem on the island of Ireland or indeed for that matter anywhere else.
Efter min mening er der helt klart en yderst alvorlig situation, og jeg opfordrer på det kraftigste Kommissionen til at erkende den situation, vi befinder os i.
The situation clearly, in my view, is one of the utmost gravity and I exhort the Commission to recognize the situation which we are in.
Ansvaret for at fremskaffe de ønskede oplysninger hviler på Parlamentet, og jeg opfordrer derfor Kommissionen til at fremlægge kendsgerningerne for os, at forelægge os den fulde sandhed, at blotlægge det, der for den store offentlighed forekommer at
The responsibility for get ting this information rests with the Parliament and, therefore, I call upon the Commission to give us the facts, to give us the whole truth, to expose what appears to the public at large to be a cover-up on the situation in 1980; when we have their answers then, and only then, will we consider discharge.
Smugleriet skal altså ikke ordnes ved en ophævelse af grænsen, men ved en effektiv indsats mod dem, der driver lyssky virksomhed over den.
gling has got to be taken care of, not by abolishing the border but by dealing properly with those that engage in lawless acts across it.
Paisley. — (EN) Jeg tager ordet for at give min støtte til Key-betænkningen, som på så dygtig en måde er blevet forelagt Parlamentet i dag, og jeg er af den opfattelse, at der er visse forhold, som denne forsam ling bør fremhæve.
When this Assembly was being elected, we were told, and rightly so, that this Assembly had no legislative power and no power to elect an executive — two very important roles in any ordinary parliament.
Key, ordfører. — (EN) Hr. formand, som ordfører for denne betænkning ønsker jeg ikke at kommentere alle de ting, som er blevet taget op i debattens forløb, men der er dog en trefire ting, jeg gerne vil fremdrage. ,
But there was one matter that was continually reiterated, and that was the power of this Assembly on budgetary matters.