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Min høje vurdering af hr. Gendebiens betænkning skyldes det faktum, at han ikke har villet henvise dette spørgsmål til en tåget fremtid, men har fremhævet visse anvisninger af konkret karakter.
I should therefore like to ask the Commissioner three questions, since Lady Elles, your predecessor in the Chair, Mr President, said that the Commissioner might take the floor again at the end of the debate.
Når det er sagt, er der en ting ved denne betænkning, der slår mig. Den påviser, at det er vigtigt for os her i Fællesskabet at kunne se det hele for os, selv om vi ikke kan gøre hele arbejdet færdigt her og nu.
I should like to ask him what stage has been reached in the introduction of electronic data processing to make it possible to discover quickly at any given moment, what progress a project has made.
Det er vigtigt, at vi i det mindste kan se det færdige billede for vort indre øje. Det er det første, jeg vil fremhæve.
Secondly, what progress has been made in the improvement of the exchange of information between the Commission and the Member States and what exchanges are needed to enable the profitability of investments to be checked ?
Vi retter derfor en formel anmodning til kommissær Giolitti, som er særlig opmærksom på disse spørgsmål, om, at Kommissionen omhyggeligt vil studere Gendebien-betænkningen og træffe beslut ninger desangående.
And thirdly, what action has been taken to introduce uniform policies on the publicity given to Fund activities by means of information boards and the early publication of lists of the projects financed ?
Når der tidligere er udgået direktiver og orienterende oplysninger fra Kommissionen — f.eks. om miljøpolitikken — hvorfor kan man så ikke gøre det samme med hensyn til den fysiske planlægning?
Mr President, the annual report concerns the year 1981, the year in which the Commission published
For det andet er det vigtigt, at vi ikke tillader, at re gionalpolitikken og alt, hvad den betyder, bliver skubbet til side som en biting blandt Fællesskabets politiske initiativer.
Now the other point I would like to touch on, Mr President, is Mr Kyrkos' reference in paragraphs 22 and 23 of the motion for a resolution to the integrated Mediterranean programmes.
Men hvad jeg gerne vil sige, og i særdeleshed til kommissær Giolitti, er, at det er meget vigtigt for os at gøre det klart, at det ikke kun er på grund af randområder:-.? og de mennesker, der bor i dem, at vi er interesserede i regionaludvikling, men også af hensyn til resten af Fællesskabet.
We really have got no objection to help being given to solve the problems of the Mediterranean areas, but we have serious reservations about the suggestion that they should be helped through separate programmes for those areas.
Giolitti, medlem af Kommissionen. — (IT) Først vil jeg på Kommissionens vegne slutte mig til alle de taksigelser og påskønnelser, der enstemmigt er blevet udtrykt over for hr. Gendebiens udmærkede betænkning.
Hutton think it is worth saying to the Members present that I do believe there is a very grave danger in setting out a totally separate regulation for the institution of regional measures in some Member States.
Jeg kan forsikre Dem om, at Kommissionen følger disse spørgsmål med den største opmærksomhed, og at den fuldt ud deler tanken om en samlet vurdering af problemerne i forbindelse med den fysiske planlægning i Europa, som ligger til grund for Gendebien-betænkningen og forslaget til beslutning.
I have no objection to the Mediterranean countries being helped within the scope of the ERDF, but I do counsel Members to think very carefully before they rush headlong into demanding separate regional instruments for special parts of the Community.
gunstigt stillede områder, hvor opretholdelsen af landbrugsaktiviteterne er nødvendig for at sikre miljøet og en rationel fysisk planlægning, samt de forholdsregler, der skal anvendes inden for rammen af den nye landbrugsstrukturpolitik for de nationale naturparker. Dette er kun nogle få karakteristiske eksempler.
Mrs Elaine Kellett-Bowman (ED). — Mr President, may I first of all thank Mr Kyrkos for his excellent work in this report, but it is peculiarly appropriate as far as the United Kingdom is concerned that regional affairs should be discussed today, because yesterday the Secretary of State for Industry in the United Kingdom did, in fact, put forward a consultative document, which I have with me, asking for new ideas of how the Regional Fund could most effectively be organized in the future.
Mærkbare fremskridt kan yderligere gøres, ved at man i sammenhæng med den gældende fællesskabspolitik forstærker koordineringen og programmeringen af fællesskabsinterventionerne.
Now one of the complaints that the Committee on Regional Policy and Regional Planning has always had is that the areas covered are too large.
Det må ikke glemmes, at fællesskabsaktionerne må ses i sammenhæng med de eksisterende fællesskabs politikker og derfor svarer til de specielle nøjagtige mål, som disse politikker forfølger.
What particularly interested me in Mr Kyrkos' report was his paragraph 12 of the resolution and the point in the Commission's document that the smaller projects, in fact, created the most jobs.
Et eksempel på en sådan situation har man i spørgsmålet om erosion af kysterne, et spørgsmål, som kan ses i sammenhæng med den fysiske planlægning, og som var genstand for en beslutning i Europa-Parlamentet i 1981, en beslutning, som flere parlaments medlemmer siden er vendt tilbage til.
This needs to be said in a debate on the 1981 Annual Report.
Det må ikke glemmes, at den nuværende fællesskabs kompetence på regionalpolitikkens -område har et begrænset juridisk grundlag, som Kommissionen bestræber sig på at få det mest mulige ud af i alles inte resse og med særligt henblik på den territoriale karakter.
Parliament has constantly called for solidarity with the poor, structurally weak regions in the European Community.
Inden for Fællesskabets regionalpolitik har spørgsmålet om kysterosion kun nydt godt af ret begrænsede interventioner.
This Community can only have a future if the poor, structurally weak regions have a future in this Community.
Efter ordlyden i forordningen for regionalfonden er et projekt, der udelukkende angår kystbeskyttelse som sådan, ikke optaget blandt dem, der kan modtage bidrag fra fonden.
We are finding more and more from year to year that not only is there no improvement in the quality of regional policy, but also that fewer funds are available with the result that both the quality and scope of the Regional Fund are deteriorating.
En endnu mere begrænset mulighed for intervention har landbrugspolitikken, som i denne sammenhæng kan virke med aktioner for genplantning af skov og opretholdelse af landbrugsaktiviteten i de ugunstigt stillede områder.
I was also happy to learn that the Commission is, in fact, spending a considerable amount on the infrastruc ture.
Det europæiske Fællesskab er i dag engageret i et vist antal aktioner i retning af regionalpolitik, landbrugs politik, transport- og miljøpolitik, aktioner, som bidrager til at nå nogle af de mål, der tales om i fore laget til beslutning.
One of the problems the disadvantaged areas have is their distance from the market, so not only do infrastructure projects create jobs while the infrastructure is being constructed, but they go on to create jobs over the years by giving greater access by those disadvantaged areas to the centres of population, to the other markets and to their sources of raw material.
Det er dog sandt nok, som hr. Gendebien skriver i sin betænkning, at alle fælles skabsinstitutionerne undertiden gør lidt af hvert uden at vide det.
Now I am convinced, Mr President, that this Community would make a very great mistake if it did not pump more money into the Regional Fund. Mr Pöttering was absolutely correct.
Denne betænkning og den debat, den har affødt, hjælper os til at få en klarere bevidsthed om problemerne og om de opgaver, vi må påtage os.
Not only must we pump more money, but we must be seen to be doing that. That is why I heartily back what Mr Hutton said about the lack of publicity.
Europa-Parlamentets initiativ er et værdifuldt bidrag til debatten om nødvendigheden af et globalt syn på regionaludviklingen og den fysiske planlægning i Europa.
We can see from Mr Kyrkos' report that in 1981 88% of Regional Fund money was used for infrastructure projects, i.e. only 12% was really used to create new secure jobs in the structurally weak countries of the European Community.
Kommissionen vil ikke undlade at tage hensyn til det, og den agter at skride frem i denne sag så konkret som muligt — og derfor også med den nødvendige graduering — idet den vil begynde med at forstærke samarbejdet mellem tjenestegrenene for
I feel that this is all very unfortunate and I very much hope that the European Council of Heads of State or Government will make a great effort in Paris to lend the European Community a fresh impetus, not only politically in terms of the agricultural and financial policies, but also as far as regional policy is concerned, because in future regional policy must be one of the pillars of European Community policy.
Herved håber jeg, hr. formand, at have beroliget den frygt, der er kommet til udtryk fra vore konservative kollegers side.
1-1026/83) by Mr Gendebien, on behalf of the Committee on Regional Policy and Regional Plan ning, on a European regional planning scheme.
at sikre, at den samlede opfattelse, som Europa-Parlamentet har givet udtryk for, bliver afgørende for den øjeblikkelige og fremtidige udvikling af de fælles skabspolitikker, der indvirker på den fysiske planlægning. ning.
I wish one of the local authorities in the United Kingdom or some other country would test it in the courts, because I am perfectly certain that if it was tested in the courts, the Member States would have to stop this practice.
Afstemningen finder sted i næste afstemningstid (').
The vote will be taken at the next voting time.
Lige ledes vil jeg gerne takke alle de kolleger, der har taget ordet under forhandlingen, de fleste af dem for uden forbehold at støtte forslagene fra udvalget om regionalpolitik og fysisk planlægning.
life ; thirdly, forward planning and prevention to secure the survival of the European heritage in all its many facets : natural resources, vulnerable zones of European interest, nature reserves, cultural heritage etc., thereby ensuring that diversity remains one of Europe's prime assets.
Jeg skal blot fremsætte nogle nærmere oplysninger for at berolige en og anden.
This European regional planning scheme — or rather, the sector schemes — should be based on an inventory of the major problems in the areas of infrastruc tures, land utilization and the environment.
von Wogau (PPE). — (DE) Jeg vil gerne bede om særskilt afstemning om punkt 5 i dette ændrings forslag af hr. Welsh.
Then in paragraph 5 'a European regional planning scheme' might in English better have been 'a European regional planning strategy', because that is what Mr Gendebien is trying to outline in this report.
Efter afstemningen om ændringsforslag nr. 10
I think that in just about everything he says he is on the right lines.
Det er ikke formålet med en europæisk plan for fysisk planlægning at skabe en ny institution, men derimod at samordne og harmonisere en række spredte aktioner, der enten allerede eksisterer eller vil blive gennemført i løbet af de kommende år.
As regards the modus operandi, it must be based not on a plan drawn up by the central bureaucracy but, on the contrary, on machinery for consultation and deci sion-making operating according to a democratic procedure, in other words from the base up, the starting-point being the needs and aspirations expressed by the regions themselves, by local authorities and communities.
Det, det i realiteten drejer sig om, er at undgå, politik skal udbedre eller rette på følgerne af en tidligere politik, fordi man har undladt nøjagtigt og præcist at have målt dens eventuelle udvirkninger.
Many of the things that are said in this report have been said in other reports from the Committee on Regional Policy and Regional Planning, for example, the coordination of existing Community measures and instruments. We have asked for that to be done time and time again.
Jeg mener, at hr. Welshs ændringsforslag lød, at punkterne 4-11 skulle erstattes af denne ordlyd.
I think that in his report Mr Gendebien has posed for us a fundamental question on the future development of the regions, because in the European Community, as was mentioned in the Kyrkos report, we have the undisputed fact that there is a growing divergence between the wealthy and the poorer areas of the Community.
De har efter min mening imod forretningsordenen ladet foretage delt afstemning om dette ændringsforslag.
This divergence has only come about because there is not sufficient investment in the weaker regions by, in the main, private investors.
Der blev kun ét punkt tilbage, og så går dette ene punkt i stedet for punkterne 4-11.
In a sense, we only need a regional policy because private investors have failed to invest in our regions.
Jeg finder ikke denne fremgangsmåde særlig smart, men det er konsekvensen af proceduren.
That is why we do need regional planning on a grand scale in the European Community.
I besvarelse af en sætning fra kommissærens side skal jeg endvidere oplyse, at der ikke efter vor opfattelse er tale om centraliseret planlægning.
Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, if the Community intends to be more than a juxtaposition of national interests which naturally tend to be contradictory, if it intends to coordinate activities and funding which are currently disjointed or unconnected, if it intends to
Formanden. — Det er rigtigt, hr. Gautier; det var forsamlingens vilje, og forsamlingen var klar over det.
cutting across what is being done already, could lead to duplication and inconsistencies which would only result in a diversion of resources away from existing activities.
Derfor spørger jeg nu hr. Deleau, om han ønsker at kommentere det.
It just is not clear, Mr President, that the work involved would be justified by the effects over and above the existing arrangements.
Forsamlingen har godkendt punkterne 4 og 5, men forkastet resten.
That would save our money for much more valuable things and would mean there would be genuine private investment in our regions.
Altså er kun punkterne 4 og 5 vedtaget.
I think that the Gendebien report is trying to edge us in that direction.
Som afslutning, hr. formand, vil jeg også gerne sige, at selv om de i min betænkning fremsatte forslag nok er ret ambitiøse, anser jeg dem dog for at være gennemførlige, fordi de kan iværksættes etapevis.
However, we think that such increased cooperation should grow out of the existing mechanisms such as the ERDF periodic report, the Committee on Regional Policy and Regional Planning and the Regional Development Programmes.
Intet hindrer os i at forestille os, at visse sektorer af Fællesskabets og medlemsstaternes aktiviteter kunne gøres til genstand for et projekt til fysisk planlægning så som de store infrastrukturarbejder, hvori Fælles skabet agter at deltage, f.eks. hvad angår det vanskelige og kildne problem i forbindelse med forurenende og farlige aktiviteter.
And, I think, we should all bear in mind that the ERDF, as the Commissioner knows better than anybody, is likely to change and develop, and within that change there will be implications for planning in the proposals for programme financing and integrated operations.
Disse aktiviteter bør kortlægges og stedfæstes, og der bør udarbejdes en række forordninger, så de kan foregå under de bedst mulige betingelser.
Member States will have to give a great deal of time and attention to these new ERDF proposals for amending the ERDF Regulation.
Phlix (PPE). — (NL) Jeg undrer mig en smule over afstemningen, og jeg spørger mig selv, om forsamlingen har gjort sig klart, at det var punkt 5 i hr. Welshs ændringsforslag, der var til afstemning, for d,er vil virkelig ved denne afstemning kunne opstå komplet forvirring.
Mr Kyrkos (COM). — (GR) Mr President, we often focus our attention on extremely urgent problems such as those of unemployment or the price of agricultural products. We owe our thanks to our colleague Mr Gendebien, who has given us a glimpse of tomorrow.
Her er der brug for en supranational, en fælles myndighed til fastsættelse af reglerne for beskyttelse af disse naturområder, til udarbejdelse af visse forordninger og hvorfor ikke til at sørge for en del af finansieringen.
We believe that if this is done, then it will undoubtedly save the Community and national governments a great deal of money in the form of the incentives which at present they feel are necessary to get private investors to come to the regions.
Mine damer og herrer, for mig er sagen klar.
Athens is a dying city, whose revitalization would entail unbelievable expenditure in the attempt to create an environment fit for people to live in.
Hr. Deleau har besluttet sig for den fortolkning, som også hr. Gautier gav udtryk for, og
We too, here, must share the blame if Athens is being choked by exhaust fumes, we too share the blame if new slums appear in London, we too are responsible if there is no rational distribution of industrial and
Jeg har hermed villet illustrere, give nogle eksempler på den gradvise måde, hvorpå betænkningens forslag kunne iværksættes.
Mr Hutton (ED). — Mr President, you will see, if you read the report of the Committee on Regional Policy and Regional Planning, that there was one abstention when this report was voted on in Luxem bourg, and that abstention came from my group.
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other activities within our territory. When, today, our Parliament is shown the need for a common planning strategy, we must not hesitate on the pretext that these proposals relate to activities that have already come up before the governments and Parliament.
Det er forsamlingens afgørelse.
That is exceedingly important.
Formanden. — Mine damer og herrer, det simpleste er at spørge forsamlingen, om den deler ordførerens opfattelse.
They ought to be keeping our peat stations and planting the cut-out bogs with biomass, so that they can continue to supply electricity from sources within our own country and not from the USA.
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We need to be very pragmatic today and perhaps not set our sights so far ahead.
Peters (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, hvis en gruppe har truffet'en forkert afgørelse, kan man da ikke ved en flertalsafgørelse sætte forretningsordenen ud af kraft.
Having said that, there is one thing that strikes me about this report. It shows that it is important for us as a Community to make sure that we at least see the whole picture, even if we are not able to paint it all at the same time.
Forretningsordenen gælder også, selv om en gruppe har taget fejl.
It is important that we can see the picture in our mind's eye at least.
Papaefstratiou (S). — (GR) Det er mit indtryk, at der faktisk var uorden i afstemningen om hr. Welshs ændringsforslag.
Mr De Pasquale (COM), chairman of the Committee on Regional Policy and Regional Plan ning. — (IT) Mr President, as chairman of the Committee on Regional Policy and Regional Planning I should also like to thank Mr Gendebien for his excellent work.
Da De sagde, at der skulle stemmes om punkt 5, tror jeg ikke, De gjorde opmærksom på, at det var Hr. Welshs ændringsforslag, det drejede sig om, og jeg tror, at nogle af mine kolleger muligvis har troet, at de stemte om punkt 5 i Deleau-beslut-ningsforslaget.
My appreciation of Mr Gendebien's report stems from the fact that it has been Mr Gendebien's concern not to relegate this subject to the mists of the future, but instead to emphasize certain indications of a concrete nature.
Formanden. — Hr. kollega, forsamlingen havde også kunnet bede om elektronisk kontrol af afstemningsresultatet.
I would like to link the two things together and not to isolate regional policy from the rest, because if we, through the implementation of regional policy, can keep people living in these
Så ville vi være kommet uden om alle vanskelighederne. lighederne.
If in the past the Commission has issued directives and guidelines — for example, on environmental policy — why ever can it not do the same with regard to regional planning ?
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These are only a few significant examples.
Jeg har nøje forklaret, hvad det drejede sig om, fordi det stod mig klart, at rækkevidden af den beslutning, forsamlingen træffer, er stor.
In fact, under the terms of the Regional Fund procedure, a project that only concerned the protection of the coast as such does not qualify for assistance from the Fund.
Forsamlingen har truffet denne afgørelse, og den kan jeg ikke mere ændre.
The agricultural policy, which is even more restricted in its application, can operate in that context with measures for reafforestation and the continuation of farming activities in the lessfavoured zones.
Efter vedtagelse af forslaget til 7. direktiv fra Kommissionen sionen von Wogau (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, hvis man fortolker forsamlingens vilje rigtigt, betyder det dog, at punkt 5 i hr. Welshs ændringsforslag nr. 10 nu indføjes i beslutningen som punkt 4a.
The European Community is today committed to a certain number of measures in regard to regional policy, agricultural policy, transport and the environment, and they are measures that contribute to the achievement of some of the objectives advocated in the motion for a resolution.
Det er et logisk supplement til det, der siges i resten af beslutningen.
I hope that I have been able to provide a few illustrations, a few examples of the gradual way in which the proposals contained in this report could be put into practice.
Delorozoy (L), ordfører. — (FR) Hr. formand, i over ensstemmelse med artikel 36, stk. 1, i forretningsordenen og efter aftale med formanden for økonomiog valutaudvalget anmoder jeg om, at Kommissionen tilkendegiver, hvad den agter at foretage sig med de ændringsforslag, som Parlamentet netop har vedtaget.
in Europe. The Commission will not fail to take it into account and intends to proceed in this matter in the most concrete way possible — and hence as gradually as may be necessary — starting by strengthening collaboration between the departments, so as to ensure that the forethought advocated by the European Parliament will have a decisive influence on the present and future development of Community policies that affect regional planning.
Tugendhat, næstformand i Kommissionen. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg er nødt til at svare på den eneste måde, Kommissionen kan svare på ved sådanne lejligheder, nemlig at vi har noteret os de ændringsforslag, der er blevet vedtaget.
I hope, Mr President, that this will have allayed, to some extent at least, the misgivings expressed by our Conservative colleagues.
Jacques Moreau (S), formand for økonomi- og valuta udvalget. — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg mener ikke, at den måde, hvorpå De for lidt siden forklarede sagens sammenhæng, var klar.
Mr Gendebien (CDI), rapporteur. — (FR) I shall be very brief, Mr President.
Det, der stadig bliver sagt, synes at tyde på, at medlemmerne ikke har været helt klar over, hvad de stemte om.
I should like to thank the Commissioner for his constructive and encouraging words.
Jeg mener, at der var et ændringsforslag af hr. Welsh, som krævede slettelse af en række punkter og indsættelse af det, han fore slog.
I should also like to thank all the honourable Members who have spoken in the debate, most of whom have expressed unreserved approval of the pro posal made by the Committee on Regional Policy and Regional Planning.
Hvis jeg har forstået det ret, er Parlamentet imod Welsh-ændringsforslaget, undtagen punkt 5.
Mr von Wogau (PPE). — (DE) I would like to move that we vote separately on paragraph 5 of Mr Welsh's amendment.