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Det punkt, jeg gerne endnu en gang vil komme ind på, vedrører ophævelsen af aldersgrænsen.
More to the point — and I am grateful to the Council President for making it — is the fact that 40% of the unemployed are already longterm unemployed.
Jeg anmoder alle kolleger om at tage statistik ken over ungdomsarbejdsløsheden i hånden og se på dens tendens.
Finally, let me again stress that the entire Social Fund of course stands or falls by the condition of the budget.
Jeg var ordfører for emnet ungdomsarbejdsløshed, jeg er helt fortrolig med problematikken ungdomsarbejdsløshed.
It has come under far too much pressure in the last few years, not least because of the upsurge in agri cultural expenditure.
Den antagelse, at de unge
That is why we are calling for a
Marin, næstformand i Kommissionen. — (ES) Hr. formand, selv om jeg udmærket forstår, at der kan være visse mangler i Parlamentets forretningsorden — og jeg ønsker på ingen måde at indlede en polemik
President. — The Chairman of the Committee on Social Affairs and Employment, and the Commission representative, Mr Marin, have asked to speak. Do you wish to speak now, Mr Welsh?
Marín hvad der vil være fremtiden for en anden, meget større debat i forbindelse med Fællesskabets budget problem og den udvikling, som De europæiske økonomiske Fællesskaber vil opleve i de kommende må neder som følge af fællesaktens anvendelse.
Mr Welsh (ED), Chairman of the Committee on Social Affairs and Employment. — Mr President, I would like to speak after the Commissioner has spoken because I would like to hear what he says before I speak. I think that is probably my right.
Hvis der herefter er medlemmer, som ønsker at stille særlige spørgsmål, kunne de gøre det i spørgetiden.
President. — Has the Commission representative any objection to speaking now?
Welsh (ED), formand for udvalget om sociale anliggender og beskæftigelse. — (EN) Hr. formand, Parlamentet er til for medlemmernes skyld.
Mrs Maij-Weggen (PPE). — (NL) Mr President, I should like to point out that it very often happens that the Commission makes its reply long before all the Members of Parliament have had their say, so there can be no question here of a fixed procedure.
Sagen er, at Kommissionen skal svare på en meget detaljeret de bat. Jeg er formand for dette udvalg, og inden jeg kommer med mit meget korte indlæg, har jeg ret til at vide, hvad Kommissionen har svaret.
I there fore think that if Parliament asks — on just one occasion, for this is not something that happens often — to be allowed to express a reaction after the Com mission has spoken, then it is a little bit hypocritical of the Commission not to go along with that.
Vi beder ikke kommissæren om at tale to gange.
The opposite situation arises at least half the time.
Vi beder ham om at gøre rede for sin stilling ved forhandlingens afslutning.
I think you really do have to play fair with us, Mr Marin, and that you should speak now.
Og hvis jeg finder det på sin plads at kommen tere dette som udvalgsformand, så mener jeg, at jeg har ret til det.
You should then perhaps be prepared to allow at least one Member of Parliament to express a reaction to your statement.
Normalt taler kommissærer ved for handlingens begyndelse og ikke ved afslutningen.
Otherwise we shall have to take a vote on whether the request by Mr Welsh can be agreed to or not.
Jeg tror, at denne debat og den af fru Salisch forelagte betænkning er vigtig, eftersom der, som De ved, på mellemlang sigt er tre juridiske handlinger, der for pligter Fællesskabet.
Mr Welsh (ED), Chairman of the Committee on Social Affairs and Employment. — No, Mr President, I would not.
Det er derfor tre spørgsmål, der skal løses, nogle straks, andre på kort sigt, og derfor mener jeg, at denne debat er meget vigtig.
I would like to know what the Commissioner is going to say before I make my contribution.
Det omvendte sker nemlig i mindst halvdelen af tilfældene. Jeg synes egentlig også, hr. Marin, at De må vise sportsånd og nu tage ordet.
Can you make it now, Commissioner?
De må kunne acceptere, at endnu et parlamentsmedlem bagefter måske kommenterer De res indlæg lidt mere.
Admittedly questions may arise and explanations may be asked for after my speech, as has usually happened on other occasions.
Det gør kun debatten mere interessant.
So in that sense I fully accept it and I do not see any objection to proceeding with my statement of the Commission's main points.
Ellers må vi stemme om, hvorvidt hr. Welsh' anmodning kan godkendes. Men jeg mener, at sportsånden kræver, at De simpelt hen accepterer det, hvad Kommissionen jo også gør gang på gang.
We are engaged today in a debate on a very difficult and controversial subject, which has consequences for policy in both the short and the medium term, and while it deals exclusively with the future of the Social Fund, it may in the end involve some examination of the future of another, much greater debate, on the Community's budgetary problems and the likely development of the European Economic Community over the next few months in consequence of the implementation of the Single Act.
Marin, næstformand i Kommissionen. — (ES) Jeg for står betydningen af det ærede medlems indlæg, og ud fra dette synspunkt indrømmer jeg, at efter mit ind læg kan der, sådan som det har været normalt andre gange, dukke spørgsmål op, eller der kan komme belysning af mit indlæg.
Mr Marin, Vice-President of the Commission. — (ES) Mr President, I gather the Rules of Procedure do not cover this, and I do not mean to disagree with Mr Welsh, but there seems to be little sense in the Com mission making its statement and the debate reopen ing afterwards, because this would mean the Commission would have to speak again and again, and the debate would never end.
Det er uundgåeligt. Hvad angår den sidste, er social fondens retningslinjer for 1987 allerede blevet fast lagt, og der rejses det spørgsmål, om der stadig er tilstrækkelig kapacitet og bevægelsesmargen til på baggrund af denne debat og Rådets og medlemsstaternes deltagelse at definere andre retningslinjer, idet jeg dog må sige, at hvis socialfonden har lidt af noget, så er det af manglende stabilitet i retningslinjerne.
In fact, as Mrs Salisch's report points out, the inter governmental conference in Luxemburg ended with the signing of the Single Act and, in that Single Act a major stand was taken on greater economic and social unity in the Community and on the reorganization of the structural funds so as to achieve greater efficiency and greater coordination in their operation.
Under alle omstændigheder vil alt dette — det være sagt til fru Salisch og andre tale re, og jeg henvender mig ligeledes til rådsformand skabet — den velvilje eller den sunde dømmekraft eller den gode forvaltning, som Kommissionen evt. kan udvikle, især afhænge af fondens egne økonomis ke muligheder.
I am the chairman of this committee and before I make my very short contribution I am entitled to know what reply the Commission has made.
Det drejer sig i dag om en virkelig vanskelig, polemisk debat, der har politiske følger på kort og mellemlang sigt, og selv om den kun vedrører,hvad der vil være socialfondens fremtid, kan man afslutningsvis konkludere, at man i denne fond aner en smule af,
I very much welcome the effort and tenacity shown by Mrs Salisch and the Committee on Social Affairs, who have succeeded in getting at the heart of the matter, if I may put it that way. Thanks to this report and the
Som følge heraf vil vi, så længe vi ikke sanerer selve socialfonden, vanskeligt kunne finde sammenhæng, klarhed og ligevægt i strukturfondene.
Marín ideas it contains, and thanks to the work that will be done in the future, we are on the way to creating a much better structured Social Fund.
Dog må jeg sige, at Kommission en aldrig vil blive træt af at gentage, at den på det sociale område står lige over for at tage drastiske beslutninger, hvis ikke socialfondens budget bringes op på det ambitionsniveau, som De ønsker for Fæl lesskabet på uddannelses- og beskæftigelsesområdet, og ligeledes i overensstemmelse med den udfordring som arbejdsløsheden betyder for Fællesskabet: 15 millioner eller flere arbejdsløse.
But I must point out that the Commission will never cease to reaffirm its readiness to take dramatic decisions in social matters if the budget for the Social Fund is not brought up to a level concomitant with your ambitions for the Community as regards vocational training and employment as well as the challenge of unemployment within the Community: 15 million or more without work.
Socialfondens budget for 1986 betyder knap 160 ECU pr. arbejdsløs, et fuldstændig ubetydeligt beløb.
The 1986 Social Fund budget represents barely 160 ECUs per unemployed person, a totally insignificant amount.
Som følge heraf er det at tænke over beskæftigelse i forhold til det problem, som Det europæiske økonomiske Fællesskab oplever ved at søge at give socialfonden rollen som den virk ningsfulde medicin, der er i stand til at bekæmpe denne situation, efter min mening noget, man skal være utrolig forsigtig med, for socialfonden kan, som den i dag er udformet, og med de økonomiske midler den råder over, vanskeligt angribe et så alvorligt problem. blem.
Consequently, seeking to cast the Social Fund in the role of cure for the unemployment problem in the European Economic Community is — in my opinion — an exercise which should be approached with extreme caution, because the fact is it would be difficult for the Social Fund, as we know it today and with the finance currently available, to combat this grave problem.
Personkategorierne: over for fru Salisch og andre ta lere og formanden for Rådet vil jeg gerne præcisere den nøjagtige betydning, som Kommissionen ønsker at give denne debat.
In my opinion, this debate and Mrs Salisch's report come at very appropriate time; a time when, as you know, there are three legal acts binding on the Com munity in the medium term.
Når unge under 25 år foretrækkes af socialfonden, er det, fordi man politisk har ønsket, at det skal være således.
These three questions have to be resolved, either immediately or in the near future, and that is why I consider the timing of this debate so very opportune.
Ungdomsarbejdsløsheden har i nogle år været den største plage i Fæl lesskabet.
Mrs Salisch, out of respect for the Assembly and because time is short, I think I should quickly mention each of the various points you make in your report.
Efter Det europæiske Råds møde i Haag dukker der et andet dramatisk punkt op, nemlig de langtidsledige.
First of all, what is the task of the Social Fund, in other words, should the Social Fund take charge of the permanent policies for combatting unemployment available at the national level?
Vel, et noget populært udtryk om man vil, men et meget nyttigt udtryk, som vi bruger på spansk: det drejer sig ikke om »at klæde en helgen af for at kunne klæde en anden helgen på«.
Of course this is a con troversial subject and an open question but, whatever happens, for the time being the Social Fund will res pond to the best of its ability to Community require ments as defined by the Council of Ministers itself.
Problemerne er forskellige, og med samme økonomiske margen kan vi ikke tage os af de to ting på en gang. Det er et prioriteringsspørgsmål.
There is no doubt that the first two need to be resolved before the end of 1987.
Vi må forelægge den nødvendige beretning, når Det europæiske Råds møde afholdes i London i december.
But at the same time it must be pointed out that if there is one thing the Social Fund has suffered from more than anything else, it has been lack of stability in the guidelines.
Det vil vi gøre, men vi må politisk træffe en eller anden beslutning, og det er en polemik, der er åbnet, hvor det eneste, Kommissionen beder om, er, at der findes en bud getløsning, da en seriøs indsats uundgåeligt vil kræve flere budgetmidler.
Also we are, in fact, in the process of attempting to solve a number of management problems and it would not be appropriate to swing to the other extreme and com pletely revise guidelines which have been decided, because that would run counter to the continuity that operators need to be able to work under conditions of any security.
Fru Salisch, af respekt for forsamlingen og på grund af den begrænsede tid ser jeg mig nødsaget til hurtigt ét for ét at nævne de forskellige punkter, som De anfører i Deres betænkning.
Mrs Salisch, ladies and gentlemen, Mr President-in-Office of the Council, whatever happens, everything — goodwill, good criteria, good management — that can be developed by the Commission is going to depend essentially on the Fund's own financial capacity.
Og det er et emne, som jeg tror der i dag er blevet åbnet en vigtig debat om; såvel i Europa-Parlamentet som i Ministerrådet og Kommissionen bør vi gøre os vore overvejelser sam men for at blive så effektive og handlekraftige som muligt.
'It is thus one of our prime objectives to eliminate the "cost of the past" as an essential prerequisite for establishing sound, transparent and balanced management of the structural funds'.
Tilsyneladende ønsker de perifere områder en mere ligevægtig koncentration, og om jeg så må sige forsøger de, der befinder sig i Fællesskabets centrum, så vidt muligt at foranledige en ændring af kriteriet for geografisk koncentration.
One of the greatest criticisms levelled at the Social Fund is that it has been 'perverted' and converted into a source of systematic reimbursement for national interests according to their contributions to the Community budget, a kind of 'compensation fund'.
Det er en debat, der er åben, en debat der uden tvivl vil blive genstand for polemik i Ministerrådet, og derfor mener jeg, at der med Deres indlæg i dag åbnes en debat, der er tilstrækkelig vigtig til, at Kommissionen gør en anstrengelse.
Although there is some truth in this, it is mitigated by the fact that the Social Fund represents only 4% of Member States' total expenditure on social and employment measures.
December 1987 på baggrund af denne beretning bestemmer, om vi skal ændre retningslinjerne eller ej.
This implies that the Social fund's present economic position is what makes sound, transparent and balanced management impossible.
Jeg vil ikke snyde Dem, jeg vil ikke skjule for Dem, at der i Ministerrådet og i Parlamentet vil blive en kraftig debat mellem de perifereområder og de områder, der
Consequently, until such time as we have a solvent Social Fund it will be difficult for us to achieve soundness, transparency and balance in the structural funds.
Under alle omstændigheder vil jeg give Dem en op lysning, som må tages med et vist forbehold.
Young people under the age of 25 have priority under the Social Fund, because that was the political intention.
Et af de største kritikpunkter, der rejses mod socialfonden, er, at den er blevet »perverteret« og har ændret sig til et systematisk betalingselement, en slags udligningskasse for de nationale interesser, hvad angår dens bidrag til fællesskabsbudgettet.
For some years now youth unemployment has constituted the greatest plague that exists in the Community.
Det er rigtigt, at dette kriteri
Now since the European Council in the Hague, a dra-
Marín befinder sig i centrum af Fællesskabet.
In other words, the government of society is a difficult task.
Men det vil også foruden en enorm politisk debat kræve, at der udvises den nødvendige solidaritet.
Now it seems that the Hague European Council has decided that the priority should be the longterm unemployed.
Kommissionen mener, at tiden er kommet til at appellere til, at der udvises den nødvendige solidaritet.
We have to present the corresponding report when the the Euro pean Council meets in London next December.
Jeg erkender, at den statistiske metode — jeg går hurtigt frem fru Salisch — har tekniske lakuner og mangler, der må rettes; dog vil jeg fastholde, at det drejer sig om et spørgsmål, hvor der skal foretages forbedringer, for at det bedst muligt kan defineres, hvad der er muligt.
Many private and public operators in regions or towns receive what is due to them in national aid partly from the municipal authority of their town, partly from the regional authority and partly from the national authority, so they sometimes have up to three or four sources of finance.
Men jeg vil sige til Dem, at under alle omstændigheder, selv om den anvendte statistiske metode eller en anden metode måtte være den teknisk bedste, må man altid yde et offer.
In these circumstances, the call for the Commission to work directly at the local level implies, if it is to be effective, a requirement for a single source of finance in the Member States.
Da vi mangler ressourcer, må man altid opstille grænser for de til fælde, hvor socialfonden ikke kan betale.
There is a large number of guidelines and it could be reduced. I accept the criticism you make and agree with it.
Resten, meget små mængder, anvendes til forskellige retningslinjer, for jeg tilstår uforbeholdent og åbent her i Europa-Parlamentet, at jeg nødvendigvis har måttet acceptere nogle retningslinjer, lad os sige »vanskeligt håndterlige«, for at nå til et politisk kompromis med medlemsstaterne.
The rest, very small quantities, is allocated under other guidelines, because — I admit it publicly and openly in the European Parliament — I have had to accept some guidelines, with difficulty I should say, but necessarily, in order to reach a political compromise with Member States.
Jeg erkender, at der er retningslinjer, der kan skabe for virring, det er klart; men disse retningslinjer er det direkte resultat af, at der findes en socialfond, der indeholder politiske kompromiser med medlemsstaterne.
I recognize that there are guidelines which might give rise to confusion — of course there are — but these guidelines are the direct result of having a Social Fund that involves political compromises with Member States.
Der er indgået politiske kompromiser med par lamentarikerne, med Dem, der tager kontakt med os og presser os, for at vi somme tider giver retningslinjer, der kræver en, to eller tre behandlinger, for at gøre det muligt at redde det projekt, de er interesse rede i.
There are also political compromises with Members of Parliament, with yourselves, who come to see us and sometimes pressure us to have guidelines that permit one, two or three readings, so that they can save the project they are interested in.
Dette pres er naturligvis et produkt af en poli tisk overvejelse og en politisk debat, og det er derfor meget svært at få perfekte erfaringer på baggrund af disse retningslinjer.
These pressures are naturally the product of political considerations and a political debate, and it is very difficult, consequently, to get perfect results from the guidelines.
Det er umuligt, for Fællesskabet er ikke perfekt.
That is not possible, just as the Community is not perfect.
Ellers vil det være vanskeligt at lede samfundet.
This is the most controversial subject.
Til sidst tror jeg, at vi må bevæge os fremad — jeg skal nok slutte nu, hr. formand, og undskyld at jeg har talt så længe, men emnet fortjente disse kommen tarer fra min side; der er langt igen vedrørende for valtningen af socialfonden. Fru Salisch. De nævnte, at før vi har udfærdiget et saneringsprogram for so cialfonden, vil socialfonden vanskeligt kunne fungere.
Obviously the peripheral coun tries want a more balanced concentration and, let it be said, those located in the centre of the Community do their best to try to correct the criterion of geographic concentration.
Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne takke ministerrådet for at have givet Kommissionen en ekstrabevilling på 500 mio ECLI. Hvis saneringsprogrammet, som vi har påbegyndt, fortsætter, garanterer jeg Dem for, at so cialfondens strukturelle underskud inden årets ud gang vil være formindsket med næsten 50%.
As we are obliged to present, before 30 June 1987, a particular report on the repercussions of the percentage of 44.5% for the least favoured regions, that will be the time for the Council of Ministers and, of course, Parliament, together with the Commission, to decide, before 31 December 1987 and on the basis of that study, whether or not we will change the guide lines.
Lad os vise Parlamentet og Rådet, at man strengt og stædigt kan foretage en effektiv forvaltning, der gør det muligt for os i de kommende år at finde langt mere berettigede retningslinjer, så at socialfonden nu kan begynde at fungere på den måde, som i dag er det grundlæggende mål med en bekæftigelsespolitik.
I will not deceive you, I will not hide the fact that there is going to be a fierce debate in the Council of Ministers and in Parliament between the peripheral countries and the countries located in the centre of the Community.
Fru Salisch, jeg har mine præferencer, men jeg kan sige Dem én ting : hvis Fæl lesskabet betaler 50%, vil det samme ikke ske i de medlemsstater, hvor procentsatserne varierer meget.
The Com mission believes that the time has come to call for this vital exercise in solidarity.
Det er et spørgsmål, som Kommissionen kan tænke over, men jeg tror, at det principielt er nødvendigt at respektere den nationale myndighed, Ministerrådet og medlemsstaterne.
I recognize that there are gaps and technical deficiencies — I am going quickly, Mrs Salisch — in the statistical mechanisms which must be corrected; nevertheless, I want to insist that the improvements are necessary to make the decisions on eligibility fairer.
Generelt og måske lidt hurtigt har jeg, fru Salisch, mine damer og herrer, hr. rådsformand, hermed forsøgt at besvare en betænkning, der i sig selv ville kræve mange timers debat.
Now I want to point out that, whether a statistical or other system was used, it was technically the best available and sacrifices always have to be made.
Welsh (ED), formand for udvalget om sociale anliggender og beskæftigelse. — (EN) Hr. formand, først og fremmest vil jeg takke fru Salisch for hendes fremragende betænkning. Under hendes ledelse har udvalget om sociale anliggender og beskæftigelse vist, at Paria-
Finally, I think it should be stated — I am coming to the end, Mr President, and forgive me for having gone on so long, but the subject warrants my making these observations — that a lot of progress needs to be made
Hvis hans kolleger ikke vil drøfte den, er der ikke noget at gøre ved det.
Mrs Salisch, you pointed out that until we have a programme to make it solvent it will be difficult for the Social Fund to operate effectively.
Men formandskabet skylder os at sørge for, at de får mulighed for det.
Today the Social Fund has an enormous financial problem.
Når ministeren besøger udvalget i næste uge, vil vi gerne have at vide, hvad han har gjort ved det.
I will say one thing, the Social Fund will be able to start working and become capable of responding to the most demanding Member State, if by the end of the year we can gradually start eliminating the burden of the past.
(Bifald) mentet kan handle effektivt og kohærent, når lejligheden kræver det.
This is a grossly unsatisfactory situation.
Jeg vil også takke næstformanden i Kommissionen mange gange for at have talt på det tidspunkt, han gjorde det, og for at være så venlig at lade mig følge efter.
I have to say that it is the job of the Commission to produce proposals.
Endelig vil jeg specielt byde vel kommen til understatssekretæren og sige, at udvalget meget påskønner den interesse, formandskabet har udvist for denne betænkning.
I listened very carefully to what Vice-President Marin had to say and I note with regret that the Com mission did not make a single concrete proposal in the entire speech.
Den kendsgerning, at formanden for Rådet har overværet hele debatten, viser, at det i det mindste er rede til at lytte.
What we heard was an appeal for more cash and a dogged and loyal defence of what is a totally unacceptable and unsatisfactory status quo.
Lang, formand for Rådet. — (EN) Hr. formand, Deres debat har på en kompetent måde påvist og behandlet de vigtigste problemer i forbindelse med socialfonden.
In the Salisch report the European Parliament has presented a set of priorities and a set of guidelines.