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Der kan måske — også selv om det er meget tvivlsomt — gives grunde for en forsigtig bekymring med hensyn til det sted, hvortil det er transporteret, men det udelukker ikke, at det er et spørgsmål, hvor vi gerne havde set, at fællesskabs institutionerne havde kunnet berolige os.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) From what the Presidency has been able to ascertain the company concerned removed the wastes to an unknown place outside Italy, where it was disposed of in the proper manner, as cer tified by a notary.
Ville det fra Rådets eller fra fællesskabsinstitutionernes side være muligt at give os en bekræftelse, som sikrer os, at der er iagttaget alle tænkelige sikkerhedsforanstaltninger for at forhindre, at affaldet fra Seveso skulle kunne forårsage uheldige følger for hvilken befolkning eller egn, det end måtte dreje sig om?
I realize that the honourable Member — and probably others besides her — will find .this answer unsatisfactory, but I can say no more than what it has been possible to find out.
Genscher. — (DE) Hr. Didò, de yderligere oplysninger, som jeg gav i forbindelse med fru Webers tillægsspørgsmål, var baseret på oplysninger fra de italienske myndigheder.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) The additional information I gave in reply to Mrs Weber's supplementary question was based on information obtained from the Italian authorities.
Ud fra de spørgsmål, som her er stillet, har jeg forstået, at Parlamentets informationsbehov endnu ikke er dækket. Det er en følelse, som jeg deler.
From the questions which have been put here I can see that the need for information felt in the House has not been satisfied.
Jeg vil videregive dette til Rådet og fortsat bestræbe mig for at arbejde videre med sagen.
I will go back to the Council on this and try to obtain satisfaction.
Seligman (ED). — (EN) Har formanden for Rådet kendskab til, at fru Weber var ophavsmand til den beslutning, der fordømte dumpning af atomaffald i havet, og er han klar over, at den ikke var repræsentativ for Parlamentets holdning, eftersom der var tale om en pludselig afstemning i Parlamentet, hvor vi ikke var tilstrækkeligt repræsenterede, hvorfor denne ikke fremstillede Parlamentets egentlige holdning?
Mr Seligman (ED). — Is the President-in-Office aware that Mrs Weber was the author of a resolution banning the dumping of nuclear waste in the sea and does he realize that that was not representative of par liamentary opinion because there was a snap vote taken in the Parliament when we were not properly represented and it does not represent the proper opi nion of the Parliament?
Dumpning af affald i havet overvåges og kontrolleres på bedste vis.
Dumping of waste at sea is perfectly well supervised and controlled.
Rogers (S). — (EN) Lad mig først sige, at det er temmelig indlysende, at hr. Seligman er af den opfattelse, at sager kun er demokratiske, når de vinder.
Mr Rogers (S). — Can I first of all say that it is fairly obvious that Mr Seligman feels that things are only democratic when they win.
Må jeg have lov til at ønske formanden for Rådet et godt
Can I wish the President-in-Office a very happy New Year, although obviously, speaking from this side of the House, I hope it is not too successful.
Skulle dette ikke være tilfældet, burde vi måske vende os mod hr. Rogers idé og opfordre Kommissionen til at udforme et sådant instrument?
Sherlock there, should we perhaps be picking up Mr Rogers' point and inviting the Commission to fashion such an implement?
Genscher. — (DE) Det kan jeg ikke svare Dem på, hr. Sherlock.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) I cannot tell the honourable Member that.
Jeg kan kun sige, hvad vi anser for særligt påkrævet.
I can only tell him what we regard as particularly urgent.
Jeg deler den bekymring, som der fra alle spørgere blev givet udtryk for.
I share the concern that has been expressed by all those who have put questions.
Habsburg. — (DE) Hr. rådsformand, jeg er meget ked af det, men jeg er nødt til at sige, at dette svar ikke er fuldt tilfredsstillende. Vi har et særligt forhold til Jugoslavien, og vore økonomiske og også menneskelige interesser for Jugoslavien er af en sådan art, at det i den grad direkte angår os, når der gribes til foranstaltninger, der begrænser borgernes frihed og frie bevægelighed.
tion on their freedom of movement and is there fore incompatible with the Helsinki Protocols and is the Council prepared, within the framework of the negotiations with Yugoslavia on economic and financial issues, to induce the Yugoslav government to desist from this measure which is extremely damaging to neighbouring countries and, moreover, infringes the rights of Yugoslav citizens?
Er Rådet således trods alt rede til at tage dette spørgsmål op?
Mr Genscher, President-in-Office of the Council. — (DE) It was not for the Council to look into the honourable Member's question since it does not concern the provisions of the agreement between the European Community and Yugoslavia.
Maher (L). — (EN) I betragtning af, at dette er en sag, der foruroliger hele Europas befolkning, både hvad angår dens egen sundhed og miljøet, er Rådet så ikke i stand til at udtale sig mere præcist om, hvornår foranstaltningerne vil blive iværksat? Hvornår underskrives denne Oslo-konvention?
Mr Maher (L). — In view of the fact that this is a matter of concern to all the peoples of Europe, from the point of view of their own health and the health of the environment, can the Council not be more precise about when action will be taken?
Jeg har en fornemmelse af, at vi kan komme her om et halvt år igen og få omtrent de samme svar, som vi har fået fra Dem i dag.
I have a feeling that we could be back in six months getting more or less the same answers we have got from you today.
Og det er ikke tilstrækkeligt.
And that is not good enough.
Kan De give os en idé om hvornår der vil blive iværksat foranstaltninger? ninger?
Can you give us some idea as to when action will be taken?
Genscher. — (DE) Det kan jeg ikke svare Dem på, hr. Maher.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) I cannot say.
Jeg kan kun sige, at vi anser sagen for særligt presserende.
All I can say is that we regard the matter as particularly urgent.
Jeg deler — for nu at sige det endnu en gang — den bekymring, som fra alle spørgere her er bragt til udtryk.
I repeat: I share the concern that was evident from all the questions which have been put on this subject.
Genscher. — (DE) Hr. Habsburg, jeg vil bestræbe mig for, at dette kan ske.
Mr Habsburg (PPE). — (DE) I am very sorry, but I must say that I do not find the answer given by the President of the Council entirely satisfactory.
Hvis De f. eks. forestiller Dem, at De var nødt til at udforme et spørgsmål, som De først skulle afpasse med ni andre kolleger fra forskellige politiske grupper og af forskellig nationalitet, ville dette sikkert ofte være lige så vanskeligt, som det undertiden er at udforme de svar, som vi her skal give.
We have a special relationship with Yugoslavia, and our economic and also our human interest in Yugoslavia is such that, when measures are taken which restrict the liberty and the freedom of movement of its citizens, we are directly concerned, and very much so.
Formanden. — Vi går over til spørgsmålene til uden rigsministrene.
Would the Council therefore be prepared to look into this question? tion?
Le Roux (COM). — (FR) Den britiske regering har for nylig givet tilladelse til dumpning af affald ud for Atlanterhavets kyster.
Mrs Le Roux (COM). — (FR) The UK Government recently authorised discharges off the Atlantic coast.
Om dette emne har vi allerede haft lejlighed til at stille spørgsmål, som imidlertid ikke er blevet besvaret.
We have already had occasion to put questions on this matter which have remained unanswered.
Jeg kunne tænke mig at få at vide, hvad Rådet agter at gøre med hensyn til disse dumpninger.
What does the Council intend to do about these discharges?
Har det til hensigt at gribe ind og i bekræftende fald på hvilken måde?
Does it intend to react and if so, how?
Da spørgeren ikke er til stede, vil spørgsmål nr. 85 blive besvaret skriftligt (').
Mr Genscher. — (DE) I am sorry to have to tell the honourable Member that I am not familiar with this aspect of the matter.
Spørgsmål nr. 86 af Lizin (H-527/82):
Mr Genscher. — (DE) Mr Habsburg, I will see what can be done.
Genscher. — (DE) Fru Le Roux, jeg beklager at måtte sige, at jeg ikke har kendskab til denne sag.
President. — We now move on to questions to the Foreign Ministers.
Wieczorek-Zeul (S). — (DE) Kan hr. Genscher svare mig på anden del fru Webers spørgsmål vedrørende en London-antidumpning-konvention ?
Mrs Wieczorek-Zeul (S). — (DE) Could Mr Genscher also answer the second part of Mrs Weber's question about the London anti-dumping convention?
Genscher. — (DE) Desværre ikke på dette tidspunkt, fru Wieczorek-Zeul.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) I am afraid I am unable to do so at the moment.
Wieczorek-Zeul (S). — (DE) Nu vel, så må De vende tilbage til det næste gang.
Question No 86, by Mrs Lizin (H-527/82):
Genscher. — (DE) Gerne.
Mrs Wieczorek-Zeul (S). — (DE) Then you will do so next time.
Spørgsmål nr. 64 af
Mr Genscher. — (DE) Gladly.
Genscher, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (DE) De Ti overvejer til stadighed, hvorledes de på den mest effektive måde kan imødegå de krænkelser af menneskerettighederne, der finder sted i hele verden.
Mr Genscher, President-in-Office of the Foreign Minis ters meeting in Political Cooperation. — (DE) The Ten
Deler rådet den opfattelse, at den særlige beskatning af jugoslaviske statsborgeres rejser til
Does the Council agree that the special tax on Yugoslav nationals travelling abroad is a restric-
(') Se bilag af 12. 1. 1983.
See Annex of 12. 1. 1983.
Det fortjener af blive nævnt, at stadig flere regeringer, herunder også den argentinske, arbejder sammen med arbejdsgruppen, hvis arbejde har ført til enkelte positive resultater.
This applies not least to overt attempts on people's lives and their freedom from injury, including the forcible or involuntary disappearance of people, as happened in many countries, Argentina among them, particularly in the latter half of the 70s.
Vi må gøre alt for ikke at anlægge en ensidig betragtning her.
It believe the Council finds these incidents no less depressing than the House.
Vi må se i øjnene, at der desværre i dag forekommer krænkelser af menneskerettighederne i forskellige dele af verden og også under højst forskel ligartede politiske systemer.
What we say about human rights questions and what causes us concern in this repect depends not on the country in which the incident occurs but on the extent to which human rights are violated.
Jeg vil gøre alt for, at Rådet i min embedsperiode helliger disse problemer den allerstørste opmærksomhed og udnytter de muligheder for indflydelse, der måtte være, på den mest effektive måde.
To this end, the Ten have actively supported the establishment and subsequent activities of the working group set up by the United Nations Human Rights Commission in 1980 to investigate questions con nected with the forcible or involuntary disappearance of persons.
De Ti's udenrigsministre deler den dybe bekymring, som Europa-Parlamentet har givet udtryk for i sin beslutning af 18. november 1982 om forsvundne i Argentina.
The Foreign Ministers of the Ten share the deep con cern expressed by the European Parliament in its resolution of 18 November 1982 on the disappearance of people in Argentina.
De vil fortsat holde et vågent øje med situationen.
They will continue to keep a close watch on the situation.
Genscher. — (DE) Der er her tale om afgørelser, som de nationale regeringer hver især skal træffe. Min opgave består i at redegøre for Rådets bestræbelser for at imødegå krænkelser af menneskerettighederne overalt i verden.
Mr Marshall (ED). — Would the President-in-Office not agree that his original answer was strong on principle and weak on action, and would he tell this House whether in fact the decision of the French Government to supply arms to this disgraceful fascist dictatorship is in line with the thinking of the Council? .
I sin sidste udtalelse erklærede formandskabet i menneskerettighedsdebatten på FN-generalforsamlin-gens 37. samling i begyndelsen af december: Den fremgangsmåde, hvor mennesker ved tvang eller ufrivilligt forsvinder, lader hånt om eller krænker en række menneskerettigheder for ofrene og for deres familier.
In its latest opinion the Presidency stated in the human rights debate during the 37th session of the United Nations General Assembly in early December: 'The practice involving the forcible or, involuntary disappearance of persons ignores or violates many of the human rights of the victims and their families.'
De grusomme beviser for den skæbne, der er overgået mange forsvundne, som for nylig dukkede op i Argentina, understreger dette problems omfang og uopsættelige karakter.
The shocking evidence recently uncovered in Argentina of the fate suffered by many of those who have disappeared underlines the magnitude and urgency of this problem.
Boyes (S). — (EN) Jeg tror ikke, at det svar kan stille det ærede medlem tilfreds, og jeg vil gerne under strege hans spørgsmål.
Mrs Lizin (S). — (FR) I am grateful to the President, because this is perhaps the first time that we have seen a President of the Council who knows perfectly well that the answers he is giving are unsatisfactory or manage to be long without answering the real question. tion.
Som bekendt har Parlamentet netop lagt sidste hånd på en beslutning, som nu tvinger det til at stemme for en fælles aktion, nemlig en delegation til Argentina, der skal trænge til bunds i problemet om de forsvundne.
Mr Boyes (S). — I don't think that answer was satisfactory to the last gentleman, and I would like to underline his question — I am concerned about wea pons that might be used against external aggressors, but I am actually asking about weapons that are used for internal discipline, because the answer to this problem is the reestablishment of democracy in the Argentine, and that is being made increasingly difficult by the sophisticated weapons that the army has to keep down the progressive forces in that country.
Er Rådet indstillet på såvel finansielt som politisk at støtte en sådan parlamentsdelegation til Argentina?
I believe that the Ten, acting together, have an obligation to try to stop arms sales to that country, and will the President-in-Office work towards that aim?
Genscher. — (DE) Dette spørgsmål er endnu under overvejelse i Rådet.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) This question is still being con sidered in the Council.
Genscher. — (DE) Til spørgsmålet om våbenleverancer har Rådet ikke nogen egentlig holdning.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) On the question of supplies of weapons, there is no Council opinion as such.
At min regering udøver en højst restriktiv praksis, er De bekendt med.
You will be aware that my own government pursues an extremely restrictive policy in this regard.
(Hørt, hørt!) van Minnen (S). — (NL) Det er virkelig en velsignelse for det parlamentariske arbejde, at svarene på tillægsspørgsmålene ikke også foreligger på forhånd.
Mr Hord (ED). — Would the President-in-Office agree that France's decision to resume exports of wea-
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Men hr. Genscher er det ikke efter Rådets opfattelse på høje tid, at ministrene i politisk samarbejde på en mere systematisk måde undersøger de dramatiske masse grave, massemordene, masseforsvindingerne?
pons to Argentina — a country that is still technically at war with a Member State — sustains the military regime of Argentina and undermines Community solidarity, and that such arms sales by all Member States to Argentina should be halted?
For at stille et konkret spørgsmål: I nærheden af Argentina ligger Surinam, betydelig mindre, men ikke så lille, at der der ikke for øjeblikket ligeledes sker grusomme ting.
We must realize that decisions that come under the heading of European Political Cooperation are taken solely by the participating states.
Sådanne forhold må dog også bekymre Rådet.
This corresponds to the structure of the subject matter.
Mit spørgsmål lyder: Gør Rådet sig bekymringer?
Any progress made towards a common foreign policy will also increase the Commission's involvement.
Genscher. — (DE) Hr. Hord, jeg kan som svar på Deres spørgsmål kun fremføre opfattelser, som Rådet har dannet sig en mening om.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) I can only answer questions on which the Council has formed an opinion.
Meri Rådet har med hensyn til dette spørgsmål endnu ikke dannet sig nogen mening.
The Council has not yet formed an opinion on this question.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål jnr. 87 af Boserup (H-536/ 82):
President. — Question No 87, by Mrs Boserup (H536/82):
Det, der påvirker os, og de udtalelser, som vi fremsætter i forbindelse med menneskerettighedsspørgsmålene, afhænger ikke af det land, hvori noget sådant finder sted, men af, i hvor høj grad menneskerettighederne krænkes.
If so I am grateful to him because the Member States have certain responsibilities of independence and sovereignty and I cannot imagine for one moment as the Treaties stand at present how the Commission could participate on an equal footing in the negotiations.
Kommissionen skriver i sin 15. almindelige beretning, at den »for fremtiden skal være fuldt
The Commission states in its 15th General Report that 'in future the Commission will be fully involved in political cooperation at all levels'.
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(Commission of the European Communities: 15th General Report on the Activities of the European Communities 1982, p. 286).
Formanden tilknyttet det politiske samarbejde på alle ni veauer« (Kommissionen for De europæiske Fælles skaber: 15. almindelige beretning om De europæiske Fællesskabers virksomhed 1981, p. 289).
Does the Foreign Minister agree with his predecessor, Kjeld Olesen, that this implies only that the Commission holds a permanent observer post in EPC cooperation or is the Foreign Minister of the opinion that this implies that the Commission takes part on an equal footing with the ten participating countries?
manifesteret sig i Rådet — at EPS-samarbejdet løbende bliver snævrere.
I personally consider it desirable — and this is a tendency that has also become apparent in the Council — for European Political Cooperation to become increasingly close.
Til slut skulle man så have en fælles udenrigspolitik.
Ultimately there should be a common foreign policy.
Det kræver naturligvis også en fuldstændig inddragelse af Kommissionen for De europæiske Fællesskaber.
This will, of course, require the full involvement of the Commission of the Euro pean Communities.
Med den holdning, der nu indtages, kan man diskutere, hvad ligeberettigelse juridisk set betyder.
As the opinion-forming process now stands, it is open to discussion what equal rights means from a legal point of view.
Det står fast, at kommissions-repræsentantens indflydelse på diskussion og meningsdannelse ikke .er ringere end de øvrige deltagere.
There is no disputing that the Commission's representative has no less influence on the discussion and the formation of opinions than the other participants.
Genscher, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (DE) Som det er enhver bekendt, fastslår Londonrapporten af oktober 1981, at Kommissionen for De europæiske Fællesskaber inden for de gældende procedureregler har fuld andel i det politiske samar bejde på alle områder.
Mr Genscher, President-in-Office of the Foreign Minis ters meeting in Political Cooperation. — (DE) As you undoubtedly know, the London report of October 1981 states that the Commission of the European Communities is fully involved in political cooperation at all levels subject to the appropriate procedural rules.
Dette ændrer intet ved den kendsgerning, at beslutninger i EPS-samarbejdet udelukkende træffes af de deltagende stater.
This does not alter the fact that decisions that come under the heading of European Political Cooperation are taken solely by the participating states.
Jeg vil spørge, hvilke midler det tyske formandskab vil anvende i løbet af den følgende 6-måneders periode til at udvikle det politiske samarbejde, og hvorledes det vil løse f.eks. problemet med den græske regering, der, så vidt jeg ved, i dag har indtaget standpunkter inden for flere store internationale spørgsmål, som f.eks. det mellemøstlige, Cypern spørgsmålet, det græsk-tyrkiske problem og de sovjetiske forslag om en begrænsning af Europas bevæbning, som afviger fra de andre EF-medlemsstaters standpunkter, f.eks. den vesttyske regerings.
Mr Alavanos (COM). — (GR) I would like to ask a supplementary question concerning the development of political cooperation and everything the President-in-Office of the Council has said on this matter in his previous Statements.
Og til sidst angående formandens svar med hensyn til Tyrkiet: er hans anskuelse om, at Evrons juntastyre er en troværdig partner, Rådets anskuelse, dvs. alle ministrenes og den græske regerings, eller er det udelukkende den vesttyske regerings anskuelse?
I would like to ask by what means the German presidency intends to develop political cooperation in these six months, and how, for example, it intends to solve the problem posed by the Greek Government which, I believe, currently takes a different position from that taken by other EEC Member States, and particularly from that of the West German Government, on many major international issues, such as on the Middle East, on Cyprus, on the problem existing between Greece and Turkey and on the Soviet proposals for arms limitation in Europe?
Boserup (COM). — Jeg kan forsikre hr. Genscher, at jeg ikke er her for at plage ham eller drive ordkløveri, men for at forsyne mine vælgere med oplysninger.
Mrs Boserup (COM). — (DA) I can assure Mr Genscher that I am not here to annoy him or indulge in hair-splitting, but only to provide my constituents with information.
Jeg forstår, at udenrigsminister Genscher er uenig med den forhenværende danske udenrigsminister hr. Kjeld Olesen, og det skal jeg ikke plage hr. Genscher med. Men jeg vil gerne spørge, hvorledes det fungerer med den enighed, man taler så meget om, der skal opnås mellem de deltagende stater.
I understand that Foreign Minister Genscher disagrees with the previous Danish Foreign Minister, Mr Kjeld Olesen, and I will not worry Mr Genscher with that.
Kunne man til oplysning for vælgerne måske få et eksempel herpå?
But I should like to ask how that much-talked-about agreement which is to be reached between the participating states will work.
Hvorledes er der opnået en enighed, der svarer til den udtalelse, som udenrigsministeren kom med i eftermiddag, om Tyrkiet som et uundværligt partnerland?
Could we perhaps have an example of that, for information to the electorate?,How was it possible to reach an agree ment which corresponds to the statement made by the Foreign Minister this afternoon, on Turkey as an indispensable partner country?
Er der blandt udenrigsministrene enighed om at Tyrkiet er et uundværligt partnerland?
Is there agreement among the foreign ministers that Turkey is an indispensable partner country?
Genscher. — (DE) Deres sidste spørgsmål, fru Boserup, kan jeg besvare med et ja.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) I would say yes to the honour able Member's last question. The deliberations on the
Drøftelserne om det italiensktyske forslag til europæisk akt vil natur ligvis også medføre fremskridt med hensyn til omfanget af Kommissionens inddragelse i EPS-samarbejdet.
And one last point about the President's reply con cerning Turkey: does his opinion that the Evren junta is a reliable partner reflect the opinion of the Council, that is, of all the Ministers and including the Greek
Genscher. — (DE) Hr. Alavanos, jeg svarer her i egenskab af formand for Ministerrådet for Det europæiske Fællesskab.
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Det europæiske Fællesskab har ingen forbundsfæller, men snarere associerede part nere.
Government, or is exclusively the opinion of the West German Government?
Grækenland, som De taler som medlem for, har accepteret denne associeringsaftale med underskrivelsen af tiltrædelsestraktaten ligesom alle andre medlemmer.
(DE) Immediately after the invasion of the Falkland Islands the Ten declared that their governments had decided at national level to impose an unqualified embargo on the export of arms and military equipment to Argentina.