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Så tager jeg hellere ansvaret for overskudene.
A production increase of 23% and an increase in con sumption of 6%.
Blot spørger jeg, hvor begynder overskuddene?
That is the trend.
Dér er der selvfølgelig vitale forskelle.
What does it mean?
Der er ingen, der skal beskylde mig for ikke at have europæisk sindelag.
As far as I can see, it means that two things are impossible.
Jeg tror ikke, at man vil gøre det. Derfor vover jeg det.
To begin with, it is not possible in the short term to bring about the slightest reduction in that milk production.
Jeg er sikker på, at jeg taler på alle medlemmernes vegne, når jeg siger, at vi glæder og over, at hr. Erti kunne være til stede her i dag og både indlede forhandlingen og besvare spørgsmål.
And that will be done, according to the Commission's proposal, on the one hand, by controlling the rate of increase in production and, on the other hand, by increasing and endeavouring to improve the limited scope for sales.
Da vi ved, hvor travlt han har i denne uge, glæder vi os specielt over hans tilstedeværelse her.
We will certainly give encouragement to support for school milk, as Mrs Gredal has asked.
Smør: Selvforsyning 505 %.
We will examine all possibilities.
Mine venner fra Irland, 336 %, jeg må nødvendigvis nævne hovedproducenterne.
But Parliament must not foster any illusions.
Der må man stille sig følgende spørgsmål, hvor begynder overskuddene? 100 % selvforsyning, 105, 110%?
A little more polemically it was said yesterday that our price proposal last year was a Thatcher proposal and the proposal this year is a Reagan proposal. I must say that nothing could be further from the truth.
Gælder det for Fællesskabet?
The present proposal therefore is, in my opinion simple, cohesive and sensible in relation to the problems we have to tackle.
Hvem skal nedsætte sin produktion?
It is a proposal which takes into account all the relevant factors and not just one of them.
Hvem kan forøge den? Tror De, at De så stadig har et Fællesskab?
The Commission's pro posal takes account, as it must, of farming incomes, the market situation, the Community budget and the general economic situation in the Community.
De har en torso, et kaos, De har mindre stabilitet i Europa, i verden, og til slut har De muligvis også en situation, som er politisk uansvarlig.
If we did not try to build all these elements into the Com mission's proposal, it would be irresponsible, and I think that, if that were the case, quite a few Members of Parliament would criticize the Commission for taking such a course of action.
Jeg har lært meget ved mit besøg i Parlamentet.
A very important element in the Commission's propo sal relates to the application of guarantee thresholds.
Dalsager, medlem af Kommissionen. — Hr. formand, vi har nu haft en meget lang og omfattende forhandling, som viser, at det var rigtigt, hvad jeg sagde i går, nemlig at en af de vigtigste beslutninger, som Parlamentet tager, vedrører forslaget om priser for det kommende høstår.
In the course of the debate, Mr Pranchere said that the Commission rejected the idea of a supplementary budget for agriculture. I should like to correct that impression.
Jeg vil derfor gerne benytte lejligheden til at takke alle dem, som har gjort sig den ulejlighed at bringe synspunkter ind i forhandlingen, således at vi igen har fået en god diskussion om land brugspolitikken.
That is the answer to, the question, and it depends to a large extent on the Council and Parliament whether our proposals on the application of guarantee thresholds are adopted.
Jeg skal fortælle Dem, hvad man der betaler for en liter mælk: 4,50 riyal, det er
It will also have a bearing on to what
Lidt mere polemisk blev det sagt i går, at vort prisforslag sidste år var et Thatcher-forslag og forslaget i år et Reagan-forslag.
Many speakers also drew attention to the problems concerning those countries with high inflation.
Det er et forslag, som tager hensyn til alle relevante faktorer og ikke kun en enkelt.
I regret that the Maher report on this problem was not covered by the discussions, since it is relevant to the price set­tlement.
Under forhandlingen sagde hr. Pranchère, at Kommissionen afviser tanken om et tillægsbudget for landbruget.
A number of speakers deplored that insuffi­cient support was given to the so­called Mediterranean products in the context of. the inflation which has affected two Mediterranean states in particular.
Jeg vil gerne korrigere dette indtryk.
I should like to correct this view.
Såvel hr. Tugendhat som jeg selv har sagt, at det er helt sikkert, at der bliver er tillægsbudget for land bruget i år.
In 1974 the Com­munity's expenditure' on Mediterranean products was 388 million ECU.
Spørgsmålet er ikke, hvorvidt der bliver et, men hvor meget dette tillægsbudget skal være på.
The budget for 1983 provides for expenditure on these products of 2 768 million ECU.
Det er svaret på dette spørgsmål, og det afhænger i høj grad af Parlamentet og Rådet, om man godtager vore forslag om anvendelse af garantitærskler.
Mediter­ranean products now absorb a very large proportion of the resources in the EAGGF guarantee section and there are in addition a number of special forms of sup­port to these products.
Det vil også have indflydelse på, i hvor stort omfang vi skal have et tillægsbudget i år for EUGFL-garantifonden.
It cannot therefore be said that nothing is being done or that not enough is being done for these products. ι
Flere af talerne, bl.a. hr. Provan, har nævnt situationen på verdensmarkedet og det spændte forhold mellem Fællesskabet og De forenede Stater.· Jeg vil gerne sige, at der er to meget enkle ting i denne sammenhæng.
Many speakers, Mr Provan among them, drew atten­tion to the situation on the world market and the tense state of relations between the Community and the United States. I think that two very simple aspects are involved here.
For det første må Fællesskabet, når det skal træffe sine årlige prisafgørelser, se på Fælles skabet egne interesser.
First, when the Community adopts its annual price settlement, it must look to the Com­munity's own interests.
Kommissionen har aldrig været i tvivl om, at vore afgørelser må stemme overens med vore egne og ikke med vore konkurrenters prioriteter.
The Commission has never been in doubt that our settlement must be in line with our own priorities and not those of our competitors.
Når vi går ind for en mindre stigning i kornpriserne, er det, fordi vi fundamentalt er over bevist om, at en sådan politik er til gavn for Fælles skabet.
When we advocate a lower rate of increase in grain prices, we do so because we are convinced that that policy is to the Community's advantage.
Vi lader hverken nu eller senere de årlige pris afgørelser være afhængige af eventuelt pres udefra.
We will not, either now or in the future, allow the annual price set­tlements to be dependent on any pressures from out­side.
For det andet ønsker vi bestemt ikke under nogen omstændighed en handelskrig med De forenede Stater af den meget simple grund, at både vi og amerikanerne og alle andre, som er interesseret i handel med landbrugsprodukter, simpelt hen vil blive tabere i en sådan handelskrig. Samtidig må vi stå fast over for vore amerikanske venner.
Secondly we do not under any circumstances want a trade war with the United States, for the very simple reason that both we and the Americans and all others involved in trade in agricultural produce would quite simply be the losers in any such trade war.
Vi vil forsvare vor andel af verdensmarkedet med de midler, vi har til rådighed.
We will defend our share of the world market with the resources at our disposal.
Jeg er overbevist om, at det kan lykkes.
I am convinced that we can do it.
I denne forbindelse er jeg også helt enig med dem, der siger, at amerikanerne ikke kan forvente, at vi fortsat vil importere deres foder til vore dyr, hvis de afviser vor eksport af de animalske produkter, vi frembringer ved hjælp af det foder, som vi importerer fra amerikanerne. kanerne.
In this connection I am also entirely in agreement with those who say that the Americans can­not expect us to continue importing their feed for our animals if they refuse to import the animal products we produce by means of the feed we import from them.
Et meget væsentligt element i Kommissionens forslag drejer sig om anvendelse af garantitærsklerne.
1 must correct a statement by Mr Fuchs, which is con­tained in his report.
Det spørgsmål, Parlamentet her må tage stilling til, er, om det er rede til at acceptere, at prisgarantierne begrænses.
The Community is not responsible for the very bad situation on the world sugar market.
Det er et vanskeligt spørgsmål, for der er så meget, der afhænger af det svar, som Parlamentet giver, nemlig intet mindre end den fælles landbrugs politiks fremtid.
Last year we were alone in increasing our stocks by 2 million tonnes and, last but not least, Mr Fuchs must understand that "the Community's sugar producers xnow bear all the costs associated with their exports.
Lad mig give et eksempel: I 1982 producerede vi i Fællesskabet 23 % mere mælk end i 1973, men vort forbrug af mælkeprodukter var kun 6 % større end i 1973.
It is the only way in which we can get a lasting improvement in economic conditions — and that does not apply only to agriculture in the countries concerned but to all other economic acti­vities as well.
Prøv at tænke over disse tal: en produktionsforøgelse på 23 % og en forbrugsforøgelse på 6 %. Det er det, der er tendensen.
The agricultural policy can contribute to this in three ways.
Hvad betyder det?
135 mil­lion ECU in 1984.
Ja, for mig at se betyder det, at der er to ting, der er umulige. For det første er det umuligt at formindske denne mælkeproduktion på kort sig i det mindste.
In the longer term the increased costs arising from his proposal would be even greater, since it does not provide for any effective limit to the development of production.
Det kan ikke lade sig gøre hverken teknisk, politisk eller socialt set.
Let me say that I am just as concerned as Mr Maher and Mr Flanagan over industrial milk production.
Det andet, der er umuligt, er, at vi bare fortsætter som hidtil.
I am also concerned over the situation of the small milk producers in Ireland.
Vi bliver nødt til at have langsigtede foranstaltninger, som kan føre til en bedre balance mellem udbud og efterspørgsel.
I was in Ireland myself only six weeks ago and I had a look at the areas I was urged to study more closely.
Som jeg sagde i går, er Kommissionen rede til at under søge andre afsætningsmuligheder i og uden for Fællesskabet.
I would remind my Irish col­leagues that milk production in your country has actu­ally risen over the past five years by 24% more than in any other Member State.
Vi vil gerne tilskynde til, at der ydes støtte til skolemælk, sådan som fru Gredal spurgte
I would add that the Com­mission has also put forward proposals in this area for
Jeg må korrigere en udtalelse fra hr. Fuchs, som fremgår af hans betænkning. Fællesskabet er ikke ansvarligt for den meget dårlige situation på verdens markedet for sukker.
Thirdly — and most importantly — we can extend our structural measures with a view to aiding undertakings in less favoured areas.
Sidste år var vi alene om at
In this connection I might men­
Dalsager forøge vore lagre med 2 mio tons, og sidst, men ikke mindst må hr. Fuchs også forstå, at Fællesskabets sukkerproducenter i dag jo bærer alle de med eksporten forbundne omkostninger.
Dalsager have they read the report? I should like to point out that we too have made proposals for extra income and I should like to insist that they be taken into consider ation.
For det første kan vi graduere de årlige prisafgørelser ved at tilpasse de grønne kurser.
tion the development programmes for the Mediterranean area, which the Commission recently announced.
Jeg vil i den forbindelse igen nævne, at Italien og Frankrig stadig har en margen for en grøn devaluering, og det samme gælder Grækenland.
It is an ambitious project aimed at raising the entire infrastructure of our Mediterranean areas to a better level. I am certain that it is the best way of helping agriculture in these areas in the long term.
Hr. Helms foreslog i går et andet system for medansvar på mælkeområdet.
I realize that it is a difficult decision.
På længere sigt vil de øgede omkostninger i forbindelse med hans forslag blive større, da der heri ikke er nogen effektiv begrænsning for produktionsudviklingen.
I hope and trust that Parliament will overcome these difficulties and will arrive at a conclusion which is both sensible and justifiable in the present situation.
For det tredje — og dette fremfor alt — kan vi udbygge vore strukturforanstaltninger med henblik på at hjælpe bedrifter i ugunstigt stillede områder.
This is indeed a problem which warrants discussion, and I personally am in favour of any modulation that would exonerate the small producers and make the big industrial undertakings pay more.
Jeg må i denne forbindelse nævne udviklingsprogram merne for middelhavsområdet, som Kommissionen for nylig gav meddelelse om. Det er et ambitiøst projekt, som går ud på, at hele infrastrukturen i vore middelhavsområder skal bringes op på et bedre niveau.
This was what I had in mind when I proposed in my report to tax industrial undertakings producing more than 15 000 kg milk per ha.
Jeg er sikker på, at det er den bedste måde, hvorpå landbruget i disse områder kan hjælpes på lang sigt.
I consider that it is a bad thing to have prevented exports to the Soviet Union.
Må jeg sige, at jeg ligesom hr. Maher og hr. Flanagan er bekymret over den industrielle mælkeproduktion.
Mr Mouchel (DEP). — (FR) As I listened to this debate, I often got the impression that it was a dialogue of the deaf.
Jeg er også bekymret over de små mælkeproducenters situation i Irland.
May I, in conclusion, appeal to your wisdom, common sense and good faith?
Jeg har selv været i Irland for kun seks uger siden og set på de områder, som man anbefalede mig at studere nærmere.
Let us take a proper look at all the aspects of the Committee on Agriculture's propo sals.
Lad mig afsluttende sige, at man må forvente, at Parlamentet fremkommer med udtalelser, der er sammenhængende og konsistente.
The adversaries of the CAP totally ignore the con structive proposals of the Committee on Agriculture.
Der må være sammenhæng mellem Parlamentets udtalelser i budgetspørgsmål og udtalelser vedrørende den kon krete politik, som dette budget dækker.
Every year, we are told that the cost of the CAP is going to be too great. This is giving weapons to the Americans, pointing out our weaknesses and encouraging them to bring down world rates to cut us out.
Jeg er klar over, at det er en vanskelig beslutning.
But we made savings on the CAP budget in 1982.
Jeg håber og tror, at Parlamentet klarer disse vanskeligheder og kommer frem til en udtalelse, der både er fornuftig og forsvarlig i den aktuelle situation.
What needs to be said, in fact, is that, if there are people in favour of the common agricultural policy, there are people against it too — and that means they are against the farmers.
Mouchel (DEP), ordfører. — (FR) Når jeg lytter til denne forhandling, må jeg tit tænke på udtrykket »goddag mand, økseskaft«.
Why — and this is a suggestion that I am making by way of conclusion — should we not institute an annual agricultural conference with experts who could look into the problems and give us their conclusions later?
Fra alle sider bliver der hele tiden brugt de samme argumenter.
This would mean that the European Parliament could avoid repetition next year and for many years to come of the arguments we have all been hearing for so long.
Jeg beklager, at Maherbetænkningen vedrørende dette problem ikke indgik i forhandlingen, idet den er relevant i forbindelse med prisafgørelserne.
Are there some people who are entitled to a decent income guaranteed by a minimum salary and others who are prey to all sorts of external hazards and dangers?
I 1974 var Fællesskabets udgifter til middelhavsprodukter 388 mio ECU.
Would we agree to index wage guarantees to agricultural incomes, taking 1973-74 as a reference?
I budgettet for 1983 er der regnet med udgifter til disse produkter på 2 768 mio ECU.
And what would agricultural incomes be if the Council had always followed the Commission's proposals on price fixing?
Hvis man studerer tallene, vil man se, at der også procentvis er sket en væsentlig forøgelse af udgifterne fra EUGFL til middelhavsprodukterne, således at Kommissionens og Rådet i høj grad har fulgt deres hensigt om at forbedre stillingen for disse produkter.
It would mean we could have more peaceful debates and rediscover the common interest that exists between the farmers and the consumers — and let us not forget this.
Middelhavsprodukter optager i dag en meget stor del af midlerne inden for EUGFLs garantisektion, og desuden findes der en række specielle støtteformer for disse produkter.
And we could also do our utmost to construct other common policies instead of attacking the only policy we currently have.
Derfor kan man ikke sige, at der ikke gøres noget, og at der ikke gøres nok for disse produkter.
In order that this future task should not be compromised, I call on all those who are still hesitant to vote for my report — and if they can do so with enthusiasm, so much the better.
Den fælles landbrugspolitiks modstandere overser stort og flot landbrugsudvalgets konstruktive forslag.
Mr Woltjer tells us that the 1982 prices led the farmers to produce more.
Ar for år fortæller man os, at udgifterne til den fælles landbrugspolitik ikke vil blive til at betale.
Mr Woltjer, I am sorry to say, can not know much about agriculture.
Det er på denne måde, at man spiller våbnene i hænderne på amerikanerne, idet man ved at angive vore svage punkter opmuntrer dem til at sænke verdensmarkedspriserne for at fortrænge os.
In some years there are a lot of cherries, say, and in others there are none, so it has to be realized that the climatic conditions have a lot to do with it.
I 1982 blev der imidlertid gennemført besparelser på landbrugsbudgettet.
Improvement in agricultural incomes in 1982 was due to favourable climatic conditions. tions.
Som netop nævnt af Rådets formand er det bestemt ikke nogen let opgave, men en opgave som medlemsstaterne og Fællesskabet må søge at løse sammen.
A number of speakers have talked about the extra expenditure that would have to be made if the Com mittee on Agriculture's proposals were adopted. But
Landbrugspolitikken kan medvirke hertil på tre måder:
President. — The debate is closed.
Vi kunne så opnå klarere forhandlinger og igen opdage den fælles interesse, der består mellem land brugere og forbrugere — den må vi ikke gjemme.
financial aid to Turkey, which were frozen when the military came to power, until such time as civil, political, and trade-union liberties have been restored?
(Bifald)
(The sitting was suspended at 1.20 p.m. and resumed at 3 p.m.)
Formanden. — Forhandlingen er afsluttet.
IN THE CHAIR: MR D ANKERT
Men har de læst betænkningen?
— the oral question with debate (Doc.
Jeg vil gerne have lov til at gøre opmærksom på, at vi også har stillet forslag om supplerende indtægter.
1-1280/82), by Mr Glinne and others, on behalf of the Social ist Group, to the Foreign Affairs Ministers
FORSÆDE: PIETER DANKERT
Subject: Situation in Turkey
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er forhandling under et om
President. —The next item is the joint debate on:
— mundtlig forespørgsel med forhandling, (dok.
— the oral question with debate (Doc.
1-1274/82) af Israel m.fl. til udenrigsministrene af menneskerettighederne i
1-1274/82), by Mr Israel and others, to the Foreign Affairs Ministers.
Om: Krænkelse Tyrkiet
Subject: Violation of human rights in Turkey
Der har også været megen tale om medansvarsafgiften for mælk, dens størrelse og progressivitet.
What is the Foreign Ministers' position with regard to the exclusion of previously active democratic politicians from engaging in political activity in future under the draft constitution adopted on 7 November 1982?
Det er ganske rigtigt et problem, der fortjener at blive drøftet, og personligt er jeg velvilligt indstillet til en ændring, der kunne fritage de små producenter, mod at de store industrielle bedrifter skulle betale mere.
What is the attitude of the Foreign Ministers towards the action taken by France, the Netherlands, Den mark, Norway and Sweden to bring Turkey before the European Court of Human Rights?
Det er for øvrigt i denne ånd, at jeg i min betænkning har foreslået en afgift på industrielle landbrug, der producenter mere end 15 000 kg mælk pr. hektar.
It is understood that at a meeting in Brussels on 23-24 September with Mr Davignon and Mr Haferkamp, the Minister for external economic affairs for Turkey Mr Sermet Pasim reiterated his government's intention that Turkey should apply for Community membership 'when circumstances permitted'.
Men hvis der er stor produktion, må man søge afsætningsmuligheder over hele verden, og de må frem deles eksistere for visse produkters vedkommende. Således mener jeg for min del, at det er forkert at ville forhindre eksport til Sovjetunionen.
Would the Foreign Ministers state what information they have with regard to allegations of torture in Turkish jails, how they regard such allegations, and whether they consider that human rights are being adequately protected and respected in Turkey?
I denne forbindelse har jeg for øvrigt bemærket, hr. kommissær, at De ikke har svaret på hr. Daverns spørgsmål, nemlig om der virkelig foreligger en konkret kontrakt eller en kontrakt under underbydelse mellem Sovjetunionen, New Zealand og Canada, som skulle afløse Europa med hensyn til levering af mejeriprodukter.
Will the Foreign Ministers give an indication that no such application will be considered, and that the 4th EEC-Turkey financial protocol will remain frozen as long as basic human rights are not respected in Turkey?
Det forlyder, at den tyrkiske minister for eksterne økonomiske anliggender, hr. Sermet Pasim, på et møde i Bruxelles den 23.-24. september med hr. Davignon og hr. Haferkamp bekræftede sin regerings planer om, at Tyrkiet skulle ansøge om at blive medlem af Fællesskabet, »når forholdene tillader det«.
In judging Turkey's record of respect for human rights, will the Foreign Ministers take account of the findings of the European Commission of Human Rights in considering an application against Turkey under article 24 of the European Convention on Human Rights filed on 1 July 1982 by Denmark, France, The Netherlands, Norway and Sweden?
Vil udenrigsministrene erklære, at en sådan ansøgning ikke vil blive behandlet, og at den 4. finansprotokol EØF—Tyrkiet forsat vil blive stillet i bero, så længe de grundlæggende menne skerettigheder ikke respekteres i Tyrkiet?
Would the Foreign Ministers state their views on the new Turkish constitution, with particular reference to the principle of the division of powers, to fundamental and democratic rights, to the rights of political parties and trade unions to engage freely in their respective activities, and to constitutional guarantees to ensure the complete freedom of the press — particularly after the latest bans on newspapers and attempts to intimidate journalists?
Se nøje på alle land brugsudvalgets forslag.
Subject: Relations between the EEC and Turkey
Der tales om fastsættelse af produktionsmål.
Could the Commission report to the European Parliament on the talks it held with Mr Pasin, Minister of State of the military junta in power in Turkey?
Det er vi villige til at drøfte, men der bør også tages hensyn til de importerede erstatningsprodukter.
Mr Israel (DEP). — (FR) Mr President, honorable Members, Turkey is obviously a country with a European vocation.
Der vil måske komme en dag, hvor euro pæisk landbrugsproduktion ikke vil være andet end en værditilvækst til importerede produkter til skade for mange små landbrugere.
It has a part to play, and a considerable one, in the balance of Europe and in its security.