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Veil (L). — (FR) Hr. formand, for lidt siden under stregede hr. Fergusson, at vi inden for samme uge har hørt kong Hussein af Jordan og modtaget en delegation fra Knesset.
Mr Cousté (DEP). — (FR) Mr President, on behalf of my group I should like, quite obviously, to announce our support for this joint resolution, all the more so as, in our view, the crisis which Lebanon is going through is not merely a localized crisis, nor even a European crisis, but a veritable world crisis, because it calls into question the very principles which govern the international community, that is to say, human rights and, as regards States, the sovereignty of a particular State, Lebanon, which is a member of this international community and which has a seat at the United Nations.
Jeg vil godt for mit vedkommende understrege, at vi på samme dag har vedtaget et budget, der indeholder positive forslag til overvindelse af de vanskeligheder, Fællesskabet i øjeblikket står over for — det var forslag, der fik bred tilslutning — og at vi i efter middag diskuterer Libanon.
This is why we are in favour of the evacuation of foreign forces, that is to say, all foreign forces, but against the crushing, the annihilation, of some of them in fratricidal struggles.
Hvis man betragter begivenhederne i deres rette lys, må jeg sige, at eftermiddagens debat synes mig langt alvorligere, ja jeg vil endda sige, at den foruroliger os alle.
Everybody wants peace and independence for the Lebanese and Palestinian peoples, peace throughout the Middle Eastern world, from Syria to the peoples of the Gulf ; but King Hussein reminded us a short while ago that what is at stake in the Middle East is not just what happens to the interests and the aspirations of the Arab and Israeli peoples and nations, Christians and Muslims : many important Western interests in general and European interests in particular, are also at stake.
Jeg lægger eftertryk herpå, for situationen er alvorlig, og de involverede interesser er yderst komplekse.
The security of strategic and political positions which cannot be abandoned in any of these regions if we do not wish to see other powers arrogantly taking our place, with determination and exclusively ; these are — let me repeat — interests which neither American nor French, neither English nor Italian, as the composition of the much
Enhver ønsker fred og uafhængighed for det libanesiske og palæstinensiske folk, fred i hele Mellem østen: fra Syrien til folk ved Den arabiske Golf; men kong Hussein mindede os for lidt siden om, at det i Mellemøsten ikke kun er den skæbne, som de arabiske og israelske, kristne og muslimske folks og nationers interesser og forhåbninger vil lide, der står på spil, men det er store og talrige vestlige interesser generelt og europæiske i særdeleshed, der står på spil.
We are equally opposed to the tributes which certain Members of this House would like to pay to some of these fighters, and finally — and this is our last word — we also wish to pay homage to the soldiers, whatever their nationality, who are stationed there, soldiers of peace and not of war.
Israël (DEP). — (FR) Jeg vil gerne som indlæg til forretningsordenen stille følgende spørgsmål: vi har netop vedtaget en beslutning, i henhold til hvilken der skal sendes en delegation til Libanon og dets nabo lande for at foretage en undersøgelse, der kan danne grundlag for en stillingtagen til forholdene.
Mr Ephremedis (COM). — (GR) We members of the KKE would have no objection to an initiative being adopted by Parliament and the Community as a whole concerning Lebanon and the rest of the Middle East.
Men det af hr. Glinne fremsatte beslutningsforslag, som nu skal til afstemning, indeholder allerede en grundlæggende stillingtagen.
So I shall not claim, either on behalf of the Liberal Group or even on my own behalf, to propose a miracle solution.
Der er således modstrid mellem de to beslutningsforslag, hr. formand, og jeg beder Dem derfor bruge Deres formandsbeføjelse og ret til at handle efter skøn og bede hr. Glinne om at trække sit beslutningsforslag tilbage.
I shall merely attempt to voice the humanitarian sentiments which permeate our group in respect of the special problem that is represented by 4 000 Palestinians driven back to the sea by the Syrians, who, until a short while ago, were their friends, and by their own Palestinian brothers.
Formanden. — Hr. Israël, jeg har ikke den beføjelse, De synes at tillægge mig.
On top of the Syrian bombardments, on top of the hand-to-hand fighting amongst these hostile brothers, we now have Israeli bombardments designed to prevent the survivors from being evacuated.
Jeg mener for øvrigt ikke, at de to beslutningsforslag er uforenelige.
Whatever be the origins of this situation, it seems unacceptable to us, for humanitarian reasons, that women and men caught in this way between the land and the sea should be exterminated in Tripoli.
Glinne (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne sige noget om, hvad gruppeformændenes aftale, som alle dengang var enige om, gik ud på.
Consequently, we believe that negotiations should be open between all the parties concerned.
Men til gengæld er vi chokerede og oprørte over at erfare fra visse nyhedstelegrammer — som naturligvis» skal bekræftes først — at visse regeringer skal have lovet — og jeg citerer — »en fuldstændig beskyttelse af Yasser Arafats afrejse« uden at stille nogen som helst betingelser i forbindelse med denne operation med hensyn til sikkerheden for de mænd, der skal deltage i militæraktionerne, og heller ikke nogen garanti med hensyn til Yasser Arafats senere aktioner, således at man sikrer sig, at han ikke genoptager de terroraktioner, han udførte før i tiden.
But, on the other hand, we are stupefied and outraged to learn, judging by the dispatches of certain news agencies — of course, we must wait till this news is confirmed — that some governments would seem to have promised — and here I am quoting — 'total protection for the departure of Mr Yasser Arafat', without attaching any conditions regarding the safety of the men who would be involved in these military operations, or even any guarantees regarding the future activities of Mr Yasser Arafat, undertakings, for example, not to resume the terrorist activities which he has been involved in in the past.
Betyder det, at man under alle omstændigheder er parat til at indsætte visse styrker, for at Arafat kan blive beskyttet, uanet hvad det koster?
Does that mean that we are ready to order the intervention of troops to guarantee Mr Arafat's safety, whatever the conditions ?
Jeg stiller spørgsmålet, og jeg håber, vi får et svar.
I asked the question and I hope that we shall have an answer.
Men lige så vel som vi af humanitære grunde mener, at ingen skal gøres til martyrer, og at de kvinder og mænd, der er i fare, skal reddes, lige så lidt kan vi acceptere, at det sker uden betingelser.
But just as, for humanitarian reasons, we believe that no martyrs should be created and that men and women who are in danger should be saved, similarly we cannot accept that his should happen without any conditions being attached.
Det var, da denne anden del af gruppeformændenes aftale blev omstødt på to vigtige gruppers plan, at den socialistiske gruppe fremlagde den tekst, De har foran Dem.
However, if this initiative is to succeed, it must follow the guidelines set out by King Hussein in his speech, in which he conselled prudence and justice.
Klepsch (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, vi stemmer her om en tekst, hvis enkelte dele allerede er blevet forkastet.
Mr Kyrkos (COM). — (GR) Mr President, I am sure that the European Parliament has been deeply moved by King Hussein's speech.
Hvorfor fortsætter vi da med afstemningen om frit i luften svævende dele, som er uden sammen hæng? Det er for mig ret uforståeligt.
We must find a way of answering his appeal, without, however, confining ourselves to a mere verbal expression of our agree ment with his speech.
Formanden. — Hr. Klepsch, jeg må sige Dem, at der under ingen omstændigheder er nogen modstrid mellem forkastelsen af de foregående punkter og en
For my own part, I should like to point out that on the same day we voted in favour of a budget which made positive suggestions with a view to overcoming the difficulties at present facing the Community — suggestions which met with a broad consensus of approval — and that, this afternoon, we are discussing Lebanon.
Vi går derfor ind for, at Europa-Parlamentet sender en delegation til Libanon, der kan tilbyde Fællesskabets hjælp til at finde en fredelig løsning på krisen.
We are therefore in favour of sending to Lebanon a European Parliament delegation to offer the Commu nity's services in order to seek a peaceful solution for the crisis.
Vi er imidlertid imod, at den såkaldte fredsbevarende styrke, hvor det amerikanske kontinent tilsyneladende forsøger at øge krisen og dække over Israels aggressive handlinger, forbliver i Libanon.
We are, however, against the continued presence of the peacekeeping forces, since it would seem that the American troops have only exacerbated the crisis and have covered up Israeli aggression.
Vi kræver, at Europa-Parlamentet gør sig de største anstrengelser over for den græske regering for at sikre, af Arafat og hans tilhængere kan forlade Libanon i sikkerhed.
We ask the Parliament to intervene decisively on the side of the Greek Government, so as to bring about the safe
Glinne (S). — (FR) Jeg har ikke bedt om elektronisk kontrol af afstemningen, men ved De, hvordan dette punkt lyder? — »pålægger sin formand at sende denne beslutning . ..«.
Mr Glinne (S). — (FR) I have not asked for a check by electronic vote but do you realize what this paragraph says ? It says : Instructs its President to forward this resolution, etc.
Det har man stemt imod; det synes jeg er at gå lidt for vidt!
We voted against it. That is a bit much !
Klepsch (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, vor kollega Glinne har åbenbart ikke forstået, at det netop er det, vi ikke vil.
Mr Klepsch (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, Mr Glinne has obviously not understood that it is precisely that which we do not want, and therefore we are voting against it.
Derfor stemmer vi imod.
Vote adoption of the resolution in
Socialfond 1984 må ikke bive for fastlåst, den skal være fleksibel for med kort varsel at kunne gribe ind.
Social Fund 1984
1-1184/83/rev.) af Maij-Weggen for PPE-gruppen, Salisch for den socialistiske gruppe, Patterson for den europæiske demokratiske gruppe og Squarcialupi for gruppen af kom munister og beslægtede om den store forsinkelse i fastsættelsen af retningslinjerne for den europæiske socialfond for 1984.
1-1184/83/rev.), tabled by Mrs Maij-Weggen on behalf of the Group of the European People's Party (CD Group), Mrs Salisch on behalf of the Socialist Group, Mr Patterson on behalf of the European Democratic Group and Mrs Squarcialupi on behalf of the Communist and Allies Group, on the major delay in adopting guidelines for the Social Fund for 1984.
Vi synes at i det mindste en ændring af disse tidsfrister vel er det mindste, man kan gøre for brugerne af socialfonden.
There is some contradiction and I would ask you to use your discretionary power as President to request Mr Glinne to withdraw his motion for a resolution.
van Minnen (S). — (NL) Det er allerede slemt nok, at vi i dag må forhandle om anvendelsen af social fonden, da vi har konstateret, at Kommissionen ikke har holdt sit løfte om senest i december at fastsætte retningslinjerne for fonden. Det er endnu værre, at det aktuelle ved vor forhandling i eftermiddag under streges af, at Kommissionen overhovedet ikke synes at kunne klare det, overhovedet ikke synes at kunne tage en beslutning om de nye retningslinjer for social fonden.
Mr Van Minnen (S). — (NL) It is bad enough that we now have to debate the implementation of the Social Fund following our observation that the Commission has not kept to its promise to adopt the guidelines for the Fund by December at the latest.
Maij-Weggen (PPE). — (NL) Hr. formand, social fonden er ved at blive et af Fællesskabets vigtigste instrumentrer i kampen mod arbejdsløsheden.
Mr Glinne (S). — (FR) Mr President, I should like to indicate where the group chairmen were in agree ment, and they were unanimous until this point.
Takket være Parlamentet råder fonden nu over en rimelig mængde midler, næsten 8 % af budgettet, og takket være Parlamentet har fonden fået et klart hovedmål, nemlig bekæmpelsen af ungdomsarbejdsløsheden.
The group chairmen felt there was a need to call for the immediate departure to the Middle East of a parliamentary delegation at the highest level.
Det er da også sørgeligt, at fonden, der rummer så mange positive muligheder, nu er ved at blive en kilde til bekymring, en kilde til bekymring i forholdet mellem Fællesskabet og medlemsstaterne og mellem Kommissionen og Parlamentet.
But they also felt that in their capacity as group chairmen and without consulting the House they could publish a letter which called for a safe passage on humanitarian grounds of the Palestinians who were besieged in Tripoli.
Det indebærer, at vi overhovedet ikke ved, hvordan de 8 %, indrømmet sølle 8 %, men dog stadig 8 %, som er afsat til den sociale sektor, hvordan disse budgetmidler kan bruges i det kommende år.
This means that we have no idea how the 8% of Parliament's budget — admittedly a paltry amount, but it is still 8% — set aside for the social sector can be allocated next year.
Og det er meget sørgeligt hr. formand, dette siger jeg som talsmand for den socialistiske gruppe — at Kommissionen ikke har indfriet sit løfte om at fastsætte retningslinjerne for socialfonden så betids, at de, som i det kommende år vil gøre brug heraf, ikke kan komme i vanskeligheder.
Mr President, I would like to say on behalf of the Socialist Group that I find it most regret table that the Commission has not fulfilled its promise to adopt the guidelines sufficiently early to prevent those who wish to use the Fund next year from being subjected to any pressure.
For der er hr. kommissær, en hel del mennesker, der netop med hensyn til Europa har sat deres lid til socialfonden.
Moreover, Mr Commissioner, there are a large number of people for whom the Social Fund is the enshrinement of their aspirations for Europe.
På denne måde er det desuden umuligt for os som Parlament direkte at spille den rolle, der er tiltænkt os, gennem vores stillingtagen til socialfonden.
We in this House have thus also been prevented from fulfilling our function of expressing our views publicly on the Fund.
Og dette er igen i strid med det, som Kommissionen endnu under forhandlingerne lovede.
This also contradicts the promise made by the Commission during the discussions.
Den store fare består i, at der ofte bl.a. af budget tekniske grunde overhovedet ikke kan indgives projekter.
Now we are voting bit by bit on another text even though, as you know, we feel that the first text is sufficient.
Vi må have klarhed, og hvad den socialistiske gruppe angår, hr. formand, ønsker vi fra vor side endnu engang at give Kommissionen et klart standpunkt.
This issue needs to be clarified, Mr President, and we in the Socialist Group once again want to make our views plain to the Commission.
Socialfonden må ikke være et instrument, der kun bruges til udligning af budgetmidler.
The Social Fund must not be allowed to become merely an instrument for allocating budgetary resources.
Den skal netop blive et instrument, der bruges, hvor det er nødven digt, og hvor der indgives fornuftige projekter. Den
It must be used where it is needed, that is, where sensible measures are applied. It must not become rigid but must be flexible enough to be used for shortterm results.
Hr. formand, det er en usædvanlig alvorlig situation, og jeg vil da også gerne høre fra kommissæren, hvad han agter at gøre ved denne situation.
President. — Let me tell you, Mr Klepsch, that there is no contradiction between the rejection of the preceding paragraphs and the possible adoption of the paragraph which is now being put to the vote.
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Jeg håber at medlemmet af Kommissionen er klar over, at jeg kun ønsker hans bedste og jeg er klar over de problemer han står over for i Kommissionen; men jeg mener at situationen nu er så alvorlig i vore medlemsstater, at nogle svar er påkrævede.
Van Minnen the depopulated regions but also at those densely populated areas in which the blight of unemployment is now often far more serious than in the areas of traditionally high unemployment.
kommer også, at Parlamentets medbestemmelsesret overhovedet ikke kommer frem på denne måde. Eller vil Kommissionen måske antyde, at drøftelsen af det brev, densendte os for en måned siden, skal tjene som model for Parlamentets demokratiske medbestemmelsesret i spørgsmålet om retningslinjerne?
sents Parliament's democratic involvement in the guidelines ?
Hr. formand, hvis det er demokrati, så må jeg sige, at der selv i Vredeling-direktivet er positive fremtidsudsigter i sammenliging med det, som Kommissionen her byder os.
Mr President, if this is democracy, then even the Vredeling guideline appears highly promising compared with what the Commission is now offering us.
Hr. formand, jeg og min gruppe er ret opbragt over denne situation.
My group is deeply distressed at this situation.
Vi ønsker et svar fra Kommissionen på, hvordan situationen er, og vi ønsker også, at spørgsmålet løses så hurtigt som muligt.
We want an answer from the Commission on the present state of affairs, and we want the matter to be resolved with all speed.
Jeg forstår desuden, at Parlamentet er særligt bekymret over retningslinjerne, eftersom Parlamentet for første gang har haft lejlighed til at udtrykke sin mening om retningslinjerne, inden de blev vedtaget af Kommissionen i henhold til artikel 6, stk. 2 i den nye reviderede beslutning som et resultat af mæglingsproceduren mellem Parlamentet og Rådet.
What we are therefore asking the Commission is what steps it intends to take to avoid a situation in which the deadlines for the tabling of projects, on which legislation has already been passed, pose an unacceptable obstacle owing to the delay in drawing up the guidelines and to the uncertainty which this is creating in the Member States. In our view, the very least we can do for the users of the Fund is to respect these deadlines.
Det møde, jeg havde med Udvalget om sociale anliggender og beskæftigelse den 16. november, viste sig i denne sammenhæng, mener jeg, nyttigt for alle parter.
The Socialist Group is very interested to hear the Commission's explanation for the cautious, indeed totally inactive approach it has adopted so far.
Ordføreren hr. Patterson, der talte om dette spørgsmål på sidste plenarmøde, beskrev endda mødet som frugtbart.
Mrs Maij-Weggen (PPE). — (NL) Mr President, the Social Fund is becoming one of the Community's most important means of combating unemployment.
Patterson (ED). — (EN) Da jeg skrev under på dette forslag i sidste, uge troede jeg, at punkt 1 på nuværende tidspunkt ville vise sig ikke mere at være relevant, fordi vi blev forsikrede om at retningslinjerne ville blive vedtaget i går, så det er med stor overraskelse at jeg nu bliver nødt til at stille følgende spørgsmål.
Mr Patterson (ED). — When I signed this motion last week, I had every anticipation that paragraph 1 would by now turn out to be untrue, because we were assured that the guidelines would be adopted yesterday, and so it is with considerable surprise that I find myself still having to ask the questions which I am now going to ask.
Vi er hver uge blevet forsikrede om af Kommissionen, at retningslinjerne ville blive vedtaget den følgende uge, og hvis mit spanske var noget bedre, ville jeg sige, at de har opfundet en ny betydning af ordet manana — hvad nu ellers det tilsvarende udtryk for uge er.
Indeed, every week we have been assured by the Commission that the guidelines would be adopted the following week and if my Spanish were better, I would say they have given a great new meaning to the word manana — whatever the weekly equivalent is.
Jeg er sikker på at kommissionsmedlemmet er klar over at situationen nu ser værre ud i visse 'medlemslande.
I am sure the Commissioner is quite aware of the fact that this is becoming quite serious now in certain Member States.
Under forudsætning af at retningslinjerne skulle fastsættes den 1. december var der en sidste frist for ansøgninger i marts.
On the basis of the guidelines having been adopted on 1 December, there was a deadline for applications in March.
I Det fore nede Kongerige betød dette jo at ansøgninger om tilskud fra socialfonden fra 1984budgettet skulle indgives til arbejdsministeriet inden den 20. januar.
Well now, in the United Kingdom, this meant that applications for Social Fund grants from the 1984 budget had to reach the Department of Employment by 20 January.
Dette er selvfølgelig nu absurd, eftersom vi stadig ikke har nogen retningslinjer, og jeg har endda fået at vide fra arbejdsministeriets side, at det ikke engang er muligt at udfylde eller indsende ansøgningsskemaer til socialfonden for næste år, før man ved, hvordan retningslinjerne ser ud.
This, of course, is now absurd, since we have still no guidelines, and, indeed. I am informed by the Department of Employment that it is not even possible to prepare or send the application forms for the Social Fund for next year until they know what the guidelines are.
Jeg forklarede nogle af de involverede spørgsmål nærmere, da jeg diskuterede retningslinjerne med Udvalget om sociale anliggender i sidste måned.
It is therefore to be regretted that despite its enormous potential it is now becoming a bone of contention both between the Community and the Member States and between the Commission and Parliament.
Så jeg har en hel del spørgsmål til Kommissionen; det vigtigste af dem er selvfølgelig hvornår vil disse retningslinjer foreligge.
So, I have a number of questions to the Commission, the most important of which is, of course when are these guidelines going to become available ?
Kan vi få en kategorisk bekræftelse på, at de vil være til rådighed næste uge?
Can we have a categorical assurance that they will be available next week ?
Jeg ved, at det ansvarlige medlem af Kommissionen, Ivor Richard, har gjort sit bedste, og måske skulle dette spørgsmål rettelig stilles til formanden for Kommissionen, Gaston Thorn, hvis han var til stede.
I know that the Commissioner responsible, Mr Richard, has been doing his best, and perhaps this question would be better addressed to the President of the Commission, Mr Thorn, were he here.
Men det er nu blevet en sag, der foruroliger os dybt, og jeg mener, at vi bør få en kategorisk bekræftelse på, at der vil ske noget næste onsdag.
But it is now becoming a matter of grave concern, and I think we ought to have a categorical assurance that something will be done next Wednesday.
Det andet spørgsmål er — eftersom vi nu, er blevet næsten en måned forsinket — om alle de andre frister vil blive forlænget, sådan at korrekte ansøgninger kan udarbejdes og i tide indsendes af medlemsstaterne.
The delays in establishing the guidelines for the Fund have created great uncertainty among the Member States as to which regions are to be considered for projects and which guidelines are to be applied in organizing projects for the Fund.
Der er en ting, vi ønsker at undgå for enhver pris og det er de massive overførsler fra det ene år til det
There is therefore a grave danger that budgetary constraints will frequently result in no projects at all being submitted.
Jeg mener imidlertid, at det er vigtigt, at dette holdes inden for rimelige grænser.
Moreover, the opinions expressed by Parliament on this matter are now utterly wasted.
Selv om jeg beklager forsinkelsen mener jeg ikke, at man skal overdrive følgerne for forvaltningen af socialfonden næste år.
Or does the Commission wish to suggest that the discussion on the letter which you sent us a month ago repre
1984 skulle under alle omstændigheder være et over gangsår.
The second question is : given the fact that we are almost a month late, will all the other deadlines now be extended so that proper applications can be prepared and submitted in time by the Member States ?