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Pannella. — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg forstår ikke rigtig, hvordan hr. Klepsch's bemærkning tager sigte på protokollen.
The suffering of the mothers and wives of the people who have disappeared or been imprisoned, the accounts and photographs of the Commission on Human Rights and the Archbishop of El Salvador's legal department cannot be incorporated in the articles of a motion for a resolution.
Om selve episoden vil jeg gerne sige, at hr. Ligios, i hvis navn jeg også taler, for en kort tid havde forladt sin plads for et andet sted i plenarsalen at drøfte et vigtigt spørgsmål med hr. Ghergo.
They have implored us to let the world know what is going on in their country and to do what we can to try and use at least some influence to the good.
I mellemtiden kom der en elektronisk afstemning, og jeg trykkede så — som det er sædvanlig praksis — efter kontakt med ham og hr. Ghergo på stemmeknappen for ham i den subjektive overbevisning, at det svarede til forsamlingens praksis. I den derpå følgende afstemning ved navn gjorde hr. Ligios jo det samme.
In El Salvador, violence and repression — institutionalized violence and repression — are daily occurrences.
Formanden. — Hr. Pannella, forretningsordenen er klar, og der er slet ingen grund til at fortolke den.
Obviously, the Commission understands the preoccupation of Members concerning the decision of the Government of Thailand about refugee camps.
Hr. Klepsch er i forbindelse med protokollen kommet med en personlig bemærkning, som vi har taget til efterretning.
At the same time, the Commission feels that we must be aware of the problems created by these camps in a country which is already facing severe economic and social problems. These camps constitute a heavy finan
'') Protokollen — Dokumenter — Andragender — Parlamentets sammensætning — Forretningsordenens artikel 49: jf. protokollen.
The most important of these is Decree No 507 which deprives political prisoners of all the rights which are taken for granted in our countries.
Jeg vil håbe, at protokollen også kan komme til at indeholde min anmodning om, at formanden henviser spørgsmålet om, hvornår og hvordan vi ved midnatstid afslutter forhandlingen om sager, der er til uopsættelig forhandling, til udvalget for forretningsordenen og for andragender.
At any rate, El Salvador is clearly the victim of such a struggle and there can be no doubt that the fact that many innocent people fall victim to this struggle every day, that terror and crime are rife and that there is an inhuman amount of suffering and distress, although I will not go into the deeper under lying causes for this now.
Med forbehold af min indskrænkende bemærkning til at begynde med skal jeg derfor stemme for den i håb om, at den britiske regering selv på dette sene tids punkt i lovens behandling vil give efter for det betyde lige pres og modstanden og ændre den, så det bliver en anstændig human lov om statsborgerskab.
Thus, I should like, on behalf of my Group, to recommend this motion for a resolution to Parliament since it so clearly appeals to the parties involved in the conflict to work towards a peaceful solution and to be open to initiatives from outside.
(Forslaget til beslutning vedtoges) (') von der Vring. — (DE) Hr. formand, for fem minutter siden konstaterede De, at protokollen var godkendt.
A second element in this resolution, which is undoubtedly of equal importance, is the conclusion that the people of El Salvador do not need guns.
Formanden. — Hr. von der Vring, De har ret, det gik alt sammen lidt hurtigt.
ment could at least show some consideration for such a serious matter as this and not just sit there telling jokes.
Jeg vidste f.eks. i forvejen, at hr. Klepsch ville komme med en personlig bemærkning til protokollen. Men rent formelt har De fuld stændig ret.
Political prisoners can be kept in solitary confinement for more than 15 days during a six month period and, in El Salvador, they are not covered by civil but by military law.
Turcat, ordfører. — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg er imod disse fire ændringsforslag, men især ændringsforslagene nr. 6 og 4, som omkalfatrer ordlyden så meget, at det ikke mere vil være min betænkning!
My group is pleased that, although opinions differ on certain aspects, the two groups which took part in the visit of the delegation agree that everything possible must be done with a view to putting an end to the violence in El Salvador by means of negotiations.
von der Vring. — (DE) Hr. formand, dertil vil jeg gerne gøre en bemærkning. De fleste- medlemmer har på dette tidspunkt endnu ikke læst protokollen.
In the view of my group, it is to be recommended that this striving for peace by means of negotiations initiated by the European Community should be supported by the convening of an international conference in which all the parties involved in the conflict could take part, along the lines proposed by the Foreign Ministers in connection with Afghanistan.
Jeg forstår heller ikke hollandsk, men ved alligevel, at protokollen blev godkendt, for det gør vi jo hver fredag morgen i stor hast.
In our view, this Parliament should conduct a more detailed debate on this subject as soon as possible on the basis of a report by the Political Affairs Committee.
Men at hr. Scott-Hopkins, der som bekendt står tidligt op, nu bagefter vil ændre protokollen, forstår jeg ikke.
Madam President, this Parliament is unfortunately not in a position to put an end to the suffer ings of the people of El Salvador.
Turcat, ordfører. — (FR) Jeg går ind for ændringsforslag nr. 8/ændr. Ændringsforslag nr. 9/ændr. vil jeg overlade til forsamlingens afgørelse.
However, we can make our own modest contribution towards a peaceful political solution and I therefore appeal to you here this evening to play your part in this contribution by adopting our joint resolution.
Punkt 7 — Ændringsforslag nr. 10
President. — I call Mr Vergeer.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er afstemning (l) over forslag til beslutninger, hvorom forhandlingen er afsluttet.
We should not hesitate to discuss the political aspects of the conflict without mincing our words, but we do think that this should be preceded by a clear and thorough study on the part of our Political Affairs Committee.
Turcat, ordfører. — (FR) Jeg kan ikke gå ind for det, men hvis det skulle blive vedtaget, vil jeg foreslå, at det sættes ind efter det af hr. Hahn foreslåede nye punkt, som jeg meget kan anbefale.
Thus, we intend to table another motion for a resolution on this aspect so that a study can first of all be carried out by the Political Affairs Committee pursuant to Rule 47 or Rule 48 of the Rules of Procedure.
1-419/81) (2): Gensidig anerkendelse af lægers eksamensbeviser. mensbeviser.
For the moment, however, I should like to recommend the present resolution to you.
Punkt 8 — ÆndringsforsL·g nr. 12
President. — I call Mrs Wieczorek-Zeul.
Turcat, ordfører. — (FR) Ændringsforslaget af hr. Sassano, som ikke tilfører noget nyt, fjerner to bemærkninger, som jeg synes er vigtige, nemlig om motiveringen og den fredelige tilstedeværelse i rummet. Jeg er imod ændringsforslaget (2).
The times in which we are living are such, I think, that we cannot continue to concern ourselves exclusively with out own problems, but we also have a responsibility to consider the lot of those in the world who suffer repression in countries where terror reigns and takes innocent victims.
(Forslaget til beslutning vedtoges) (')
It describes both her findings and her impressions.
(') Referatet gengiver kun de dele af afstemningerne, der gav anledning til indlæg.
It would be extremely interesting — and indeed vital — for us to go a little deeper into the problem, particularly as regards a number of political aspects.
For enkeltheder vedrørende afstemningerne henvises til protokollen. (') Uden forhandling. (') EFT C 260 af 12. 10.
I am referring not only to the role of the United States in the whole affair, but also to the part played by the Soviet Union.
— ind for ændringsforslag nr. 1, — imod ændringsforslag nr. 11/sendr.
Mrs Wieczorek-Zeul. — (DE) Madam President, ladies and gentlemen, I was with the delegation in El Salvador, and I saw the victims of torture with my own eyes.
Europa-Parlamentets forhandlinger tror det samme gælder for alle de andre sprog.
Debates of the European Parliament
Formanden. — Vi går over til betænkningerne af Edward Kellett-Bowman (dok.
Wieczorek-Zeul cases of torture and arrest are committed by govern ment forces.
Formanden. — Det er et andet problem. Vi kan ikke stemme om det mere.
What is happening in El Salvador is not just fate — it is something political: it is state terrorism on the part of the police and the army.
(ForsL·get til beslutning vedtoges) (')
So far, any attempt to get the issue discussed has been blocked.
Formanden. — Endelig har vi Baduel Gloriosobetænkningen (dok.
And — let me say quite frankly — that is the only reason why I am prepared to support this compromise motion for a resolution.
1-258/81): Varers overgang til fri omsætning.
I want this House to come out here and now by a large majority in favour of political mediation between the Junta and the FDR/FMLN.
(ForsL·get til direktiv godkendtes, ogforsL·get til beslut ning vedtoges) (')
I would therefore ask you to express your unequivocal support for a political solution.
1-251/81 og 1-350/81. Sagen er den, hr. formand, at Rådet har udsendt tekster, som påstås at give disse to satellitter decharge.
President. — I call Mr Langes.
Der henvises ikke til Rådets tekster i de foreliggende forslag, fordi disse ikke dækkes af traktaten af 22. juli 1975.
It is the equivalent of 0-3% of the entire population, which would in my country mean 190 000 people murdered in a single year.
Meddelelse af decharge, hr. formand — det er jo alment bekendt — er Parlamentets sag, ikke Rådets. Da forsamlingen sidste år behandlede lignende betænkninger, krævede det en ændring af de særlige bestemmelser, der dækker de to satellitter.
Mr Langes. — (DE) Madam President, ladies and gentlemen, I disapprove of what Mrs Wieczorek-Zeul said just now, not because the political questions she mentioned· should not be discussed in this House — after all, we Christian Democrats have tabled a motion for a resolution too and we shall be discussing this subject and the whole political background in the Political Affairs Committee.
Ændringsforslagene ville have gjort det muligt for Rådet at iagttage bestem melserne i artikel 206 b i EØF-traktaten.
Of course, the events in El Salvador have a political background, but there is no justification in trying in a few minutes to paint a very simplistic picture of a very complex country with a very complex history of war, conflict and terror.
Jeg anmoder indtrængende Kommissionen om uden yderligere tøven at fremkomme med det nødvendige forslag om en ændring, så den normale dechargeprocedure kan finde sted.
I should like to draw your attention to point 1 of the motion for a resolution, in which we call for political mediation and for the USA to cease its opposition to a negotiated political settlement.
I så fald kan vi meddele decharge, hvis det passer os, efter en anbefaling fra Rådet.
That is something which needs saying, because the fact is that the USA is opposing any form of political mediation.
Formanden. — Jeg ser, at Kommissionen ikke er her, men jeg er sikker på, at Deres erklæring vil blive noteret.
I only wish there were more European governments which had sufficient guts to take the same line.
(ForsL·gene til afgørehe og beslutning vedtoges) (')
The motion for a resolution names no names and makes no mention of who is to blame.
Sir James Scott-Hopkins. — (EN) Vi begynder nu forhandlingerne, hr. formand, og jeg har først nu bedt om ordet, fordi jeg fandt, at jeg ville give tid til, at et af kommissionsmedlemmerne kunne komme herhen og overvære forsamlingens drøftelser. Jeg håber, at en af medarbejderne sørger for det. Hvis det var et hvilket som helst nationalt parlament — ikke mindst mit eget — ville jeg bede om udsættelse af mødet, indtil det bekvemmede ministeren at komme og tage del i forhandlingen.
All of us who were in El Salvador owe it to the people we spoke to and who are forced to suffer in that country to name names and not pretend that all this is something which is just happening and for which no-one bears any blame.
Jeg vil ikke foreslå, at vi afbryder mødet, til han kommer, men jeg håber, at De som formand vil gøre det ganske klart, at fredag er en normal arbejdsdag for os og for Kommissionen.
It is precisely from a country like the USA, our ally in NATO, that we must expect respect for human rights and non-intervention in other countries.
1-263/81): Bevarelse af fiskeressourcerne. cerne.
We have spoken to the socorso jurídico, the ecclesiastical legal aid service, who told us that 80% of violations of human rights in El Salvador, of
Formanden. — Hr. Scott-Hopkins, Deres bemærkninger er helt og fuldt berettigede.
The aim of our joint statement is to help the people in El Salvador and not to score a few cheap debating points in the space of a few minutes.
Battcrsby. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg påpegede i går, at den engelske-tekst indeholder noget sludder, så at det, vi her foretager os, ingen mening har.
We Europeans are prepared to respond spontaneously with the first step of giving humanitarian aid to the refugees on all sides and to those who have lost their mothers or children.
Jeg bad derfor i går om, at der måtte blive stemt punkt for punkt.
Let us please not close one eye to the whole picture.
Fich. — Jeg vil godt starte med at sige, at jeg er ganske enig med sir James Scott-Hopkins. Det ville være naturligt, at Kommissionen var til stede, således at vi straks kunne få svar på de spørgsmål, som vi rejser i denne debat.
I was prepared to be openminded when I was there, as you yourself can confirm.
Formanden. — Jeg mener, at spørgsmålet er taget op med Kommissionen, for hvis jeg forstår det rigtigt, er det hovedsagelig et sprogligt problem.
This is a humanitarian appeal and of course also an expression of our willingness to support any political solution which likewise involves the United States and other American states such as Mexico, Panama, Costa Rica and Venezuela.
Jeg vil godt sige om det forslag, som vi behandler, at dette er ét ud af en lang række direktiver, som handler om tekniske handelshindringer, dvs. det gør de på overfladen, men i nogle af dem drejer det sig også om spørgsmål om arbejdsmiljø, og dette er
It is a curious fact, Mrs Wieczorek-Zeul, that it was precisely the democracies in Central America which refused to support the joint declaration by France and Mexico.
tilfældet med det foreliggende forslag.
President. — I call Mrs Baduel Glorioso.
Man kan sige det på følgende måde: Er det muligt at fjerne tekniske handelshindringer og samtidig beskytte det arbejdsmiljø, som er opbygget i visse lande, eller sikre, at dette arbejdsmiljø forbedres efter landenes ønsker?
Mr O'Kennedy, Member of the Commission. — Madam President, I will have to be very brief in view of the time, but I just want to say at this point on behalf of the Commission that we do share the concern, preoccupation and determination expressed here in Parliament this evening.
Det er der en enkelt regering i EF-landene, der har ment, nemlig den danske, men det er også vigtigt, at Den europæiske faglige Samorganisation, Euro-LO, på sin kongres i München for nogle år siden vedtog, at arbejdsmiljøkrav på ingen måde kan betragtes som tekniske handelshindringer.
I had prepared a detailed account for Parliament of how the Commission was endeavouring to discharge its responsibility, but in view of the hour I do not think I can give it.
Formanden. — Jeg ser, at kommissær Dalsager i mellemtiden er kommet til stede.
Mrs Baduel Glorioso. — (IT) Madam President, I shall speak very briefly to make a few points on behalf of the Italian Communist and Allies Group.
Jeg byder ham hjertelig velkommen, men vil på forsamlingens vegne pege på, at det nok ville være godt, om Kommissionen gjorde sig klart,, át mødet fredag morgen begynder kl. 9.00, at fredag er en normal arbejdsdag, og at det kan være nødvendigt, at Kommissionen under afstemningerne tilkendegiver sin mening med hensyn til ændringsforslagene.
We would have preferred to vote for the motion for a resolution tabled by the Socialist Group, given that this time we have not tabled a motion for a resolution of our own, as we did in recent months.
Det er altså ikke nogen bebrejdelse mod hr. Dalsager personlig, men mod Kommissionen som helhed. Jeg håber, at der fremtidig vil være et kommissionsmedlem til stede her kl. 9.00.
This motion for a resolution seemed to us more precise, clearer and more in line with our interpretation of the serious situation in El Salvador.
Squarcialupi. — (IT) Hr. formand, jeg tror, det er overflødigt på dette sted at understrege, hvor skadelig støj er; desuden har jeg ikke tid til det, og jeg håber, at mine ^kolleger har læst det omdelte dokument.
We are voting for this 'compromise' because we real ize the importance of the humanitarian aid which it proposes to give to the people of El Salvador, which has been badly hit, with 7 000 killed since the begin ning of the year, and torn appart by a very serious civil war.
Døvhed, som er den første konsekvens af støjen, er den vigtigste sociale sygdom, dvs. den mest udbredte sociale sygdom, og den er — hvilket skal under streges — uhelbredelig. Man kan altså ikke afhjælpe skaderne.
We also realize the importance of an effort at mediation made in this Parliament — we wish to acknowledge it — with a view to an overall political solution, albeit not the solution for which we would have wished and which was envisaged by the Franco-Mexican Agreement.
Det er underligt at se, at der er en stor modvilje i Kommissionen mod at acceptere dette princip. Kommissionen har indtil nu ikke villet acceptere, at man samtidig skal fjerne tekniske handelshindringer og beskytte arbejdsmiljøet, og det må jeg beklage dybt.
I would only say that in the case of El Salvador we do take the view that only a politically negotiated solution by all the democratic groupings in the country, rather than military force, can return it to economic stability under a democratic and pluralistic form of govern ment.
Vi fik som bekendt denne debat, fordi forslaget blev taget af dagsordenen i juli, hvor det stod opført uden forhandling.
We have made considerable efforts to assist the refugees both inside the country and in the neighbour ing States.
Artikel 4 i Kommissionens forslag er i sin oprindelige udformning meget uklar. Der er en vis åbning med hensyn til, at man kan beslutte nationale regler til beskyttelse af arbejdsmiljøet, men det er ganske uklart, under hvilke betingelser men kan gøre det, og de ændringsforslag, som er kommet fra såvel ordføreren som fra hr. Kirk, strammer denne artikel 4 vældig godt op, og på socialistgruppens vegne vil jeg sige, at dem vil vi støtte.
We will, in fact, be looking to every possibility of increasing the level of our aid.
Jeg synes, at det er vigtigt at fastslå, at det er første gang, vi forhåbentlig og formentlig kan nå til bred enighed om, at arbejdsmiljøet ikke må skades gennem vedtagelse af direktiver til fjernelse af tekniske handelshindringer.
Of course, we recognize equally that some of these are complex problems and that the one way in which we can help is through the implementation of aid proposals to relieve the suffer ing and problems of those who are unfortunately involved in this terrible human tragedy.
Der er to forskellige måder at se problemet på, men der er i hvert fald enighed mellem de to grupper om, at det eksisterende direktivforslag fra Kommissionen er uacceptabelt.
There is talk of self-determination for a people — Europe is trying to play a mediating role, as it has sometimes or even often done, in the interests of peace and justice, particularly for the countries of the Third World, which must not be allowed to suffer the effects of a past for which we must all feel responsible.
Vi står her over for et direktiv, som er forsigtigt, måske for forsigtigt.
Sir James Scott-Hopkins. — Madam President, I only want to ask what happens now.
De ændringsforslag, der er stillet af medlemmerne fra de forskellige stater, viser, at de i direktivet anførte mindste- og højestegrænser for støjniveauet i mange lande allerede "forlængst er overskredet. Direktivet omtaler derfor situationer, som allerede er overvundet i mange medlemsstater.
I repeat that we shall vote in favour of this compromise, although we would have preferred to vote for the Socialist resolution.
Det strækker sig desuden over meget lange tidsrum, de såkaldte femårs-etaper.
Do we vote on them without debate, or do they automatically go on to the agenda for next month?
Der er desuden mange modsigelser mellem støjmålingerne for maskiner i stilstand og maskiner i bevægelse. gelse.
Precisely for this reason I would have drawn up a different motion for a resolution. tion.
Jeg vil godt slutte af med at sige, at jeg kan garantere for, at det ikke er socialistgruppens hensigt på noget tidspunkt at forhindre den frie vareudveksling.
Again, if time has run out and a debate has not been finished, such as this debate on Angola right now, are you then going to contravene the rules of the House and put it to the vote?
Vi går klart ind for afskaffelse af tekniske handelshindringer.
As you are perfectly aware, the time for this debate is from 9 to 12 p.m.
Til gengæld håber jeg også, at jeg kan få bekræftet i dag, at det heller ikke er højresidens hensigt at bremse udviklingen med hensyn til forbedring af arbejdsmiljøet eller at ødelægge det allerede etablerede arbejdsmiljø.
That is what is quite strictly laid down, and I submit to you on a point of order that after 12 o'clock it is quite out of order to put any kind of vote or any kind of question to the House.
Det vil afstemningen vise, og jeg håber, at den kan bekræfte dette, for det vil love godt for fremtiden.
It is quite clearly after 12 o'clock now, and therefore I put to you plainly that no vote should be put to the
Der tales om gravemaskiner og dozere, men dette er altsammen maskiner, som er i bevægelse, og det er derfor ret unødvendigt at måle deres støj, når de er i stilstand, for de er ikke i stilstand, de bevæger sig!
It is for that reason that, on behalf of my Italian colleagues in the Group for the Technical Coordination and Defence of Independent Groups and Members, I declare that we shall vote in favour of this resolution.
De bemærkninger, der er sagt her i salen, skal jeg sørge for bliver overbragt til rette vedkommende.
House on any further motion arising from the urgency debate.
Formanden. — Forhandlingen er afsluttet.
President. — Sir James, we are holding a debate which is going to end in two minutes.
Vi går til afstemning.
I call Mr Rogers.
ForsL·g til direktiv — Ændringsforslagene nr. 3 og 5
Mr Rogers. — Madam President, I did ask to speak on a point of order before Sir James Scott-Hopkins.
Bliver det vedtaget, er nr. 5 overflødigt, for hvis man vedtager mit ændringsforslag nr. 3, er de ord bort faldet i teksten, som der peges på i ændringsforslag nr. 5.
On the basis of your ruling we can now take the vote and then, as normally happens, the other cases of urgency will be placed on the agenda for the next partsession.
Derfor anbefaler jeg, at man stemmer for ændringsforslag nr. 3, og at man tager nr. 5 tilbage (*).
But the shame of it was that the Conservatives demanded a vote paragraph by paragraph on the wine resolutions in order to ensure that we would run out of time.
Formanden. — Er hr. Kirk parat til at tage ændringsforslaget tilbage?
President. — I call Mr Pannella.
Kirk. — Hr. formand jeg synes, at det er fuldstændig unødvendigt at tage ændringsforslag nr. 5 tilbage, for hvis der ikke er flertal for nr. 3, fastholder jeg selvfølgelig nr. 5, og så kan vi se, om der er flertal for nr. 5.
President. — I have received a compromise amend ment, tabled by Mr Glinne and others on behalf of the Socialist Group and by Mr Klepsch and others on behalf of the Group of the European People's Party (CD Group), seeking to replace the two motions for resolutions by a single motion for a resolution.
(Forslaget til direktiv godkendtes, og forsL·get til beslut ning vedtoges) (2)
(Parliament agreed to the vote and adopted the compromise amendment)