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Hvordan forholder det sig med havnene? Også på dette område kan visse problemer løses i større eller mindre omfang ved lempelser.
President. — I thank Mr Van den Broek for the kind words he addressed to me.
Der var tale om den diskrimination, der faktisk findes mellem EF-borgerne.
The vote on these motions for resolutions will be taken at the next voting-time.
Ganske vist har briterne gjort store fremskridt.
(The sitting was adjourned at 5 p.m. and resumed at 5.30p.m.)
Ved grænserne skelner de mel lem britiske borgere, borgere fra EF og andre.
On that occasion the Council was asked to ensure cooperation to prevent the public from being affected by such acts.
Men dermed bliver der stadig væk diskrimineret mellem borgerne i Det europæiske Fællesskab.
Do not misunderstand me. In saying this, I am not in any way arguing against the completely justified efforts that must be made to ease frontier controls.
Først da vil der ikke være nogen diskrimination mellem Fæl lesskabets borgere.
This afternoon various Members have urged me to try to convince our Foreign and Internal Ministers in particular of the importance of easing frontier controls and formalities.
Det er Europa-Parlamentets mål.
All the inter ests at stake here must be carefully balanced.
Jeg glæder mig over, at Rådet på sit møde den 18. marts har dette punkt på dagsordenen, men jeg ønsker også, at man forsikrer os om, at det ikke blot er et punkt blandt andre, hvis vedtagelse bliver udsat til senere.
In my first statement I explained how we are trying to make progress in solving these complex problems, which are so important for European citizens.
Det var min første bekymring og mit første spørgsmål.
Mrs Boot asked me precisely what I meant when I said in my first statement that progress had been made.
Debatten i eftermiddag har vist, med hvor stor utålmodighed Europa-Parlamentet afventer yderligere fremgang på vejen mod lettelser af grænsekontrollen, hvormed det, som vi kalder borgernes Europa får et tydeligt indhold.
I assume that she too is aware how long these questions have been under discussion in the Council and that we have at least reached the point where we can say that only one delegation is opposed.
Det er også for formandskabet helt klart, hvor alvorligt og presserende dette spørgsmål er.
I remember the time when even more delegations were having difficulty with the proposals.
Vi havde anmodet om, at dette direktiv skulle udgøre et væsentligt skridt henimod fjernelse af grænserne.
President. — The next item is the second part of Question Time (Doc. B2-1690/85).
Vi må desuden have at vide, om De har drøftet situationen i togene.
Question No 83, by Mrs Larive-Groenendaal:
Selvfølgelig kunne alle europæiske statsborgere gå rundt med et grønt emblem i knap hullet! Men det drejer sig om at vide, hvilken type kontrol, der udføres i togene, at vide noget om brug afpas, o.s.v.
Subject: Meeting, during the Dutch presidency, of the Ministers responsible for sport in the Member States of the European Community
Jeg vil gerne erindre om, at vi har drøftet dette tidligere på baggrund af visse terroristiske aktioner, der havde fundet sted, og som tydeligt vedrørte borgernes sikkerhed.
The result is — as Parliament knows — that we are having to proceed on the basis of the compromise suggested by the Presidency.
Ved den lejlighed anmodedes Rådet om at etablere et samarbejde med henblik på i hvert fald at sikre, at borgerne ikke rammes af den form for aktioner. Misforstå mig ikke.
The author of the question, Mrs Vayssade, has urged me to take another, careful look at the contents of the directive before the Council meets to discuss the internal market on 18 March, and I can assure her I will do so.
Jeg fremdrager ikke dette eksempel for på nogen måde at relativere de helt berettigede, nødvendige bestræbelser, der må gøres på at lette grænsetrafikken. Men jeg nævner dette eksempel udelukkende for at illustrere, at Rådet, der be skæftiger sig med disse problemer, også bør se på den anden side af sagen.
But I would ask the House to appreciate that we are trying to get twelve government representatives to agree on this point and to ensure that real progress is made on 18 March.
I eftermiddag har forskellige ære de medlemmer presset på for navnlig at overbevise vore indenrigs- og justitsministre om vigtigheden af lettelser for grænsetrafikken. Der må findes en rimelig ligevægt mellem alle de interesser, der er på tale her.
Does the Council intend to organize a meeting of the Ministers responsible for sport in the Member States of the European Community during the first half of 1986 with a view to extablishing common measures to be taken to combat vandalism and violence in sport, and is it prepared to invite the Commission without delay to draw up proposals for Community legislation which may be con sidered at that meeting, as called for by the European Parliament in the resolution it adopted on 11 July 1985 on the measures required to combat vandalism and violence at sporting events?
Endelig mener jeg, at der finder utallige former for diskrimination sted i lufthavnene.
I think what I have said shows that the Presidency has the necessary dedication and is well aware of the importance of this question.
Ganske vist kan formaliteterne i nogle tilfælde afvikles hurtigere, hvis der findes særlige passager og billetluger, reserveret til EF-statsborgere.
This can and must not, of course, be the last step taken in this matter.
Men hvis man i praksis foretager en omfattende kontrol af hver enkelt person nytter det ikke noget.
In this res pect, the Commission must be prepared to do more than it has done so far. We are totally committed to this cause.
Vi må vide, om det er tilstrækkeligt, at passet kan ses, hvilket ville gøre det hele meget hur
I very much regret, of course, the incidents to which various Members have referred this after noon and which show that, even where agreements on the easing of restrictions have been reached, they are not always observed.
Jeg har i mit første indlæg gjort klart rede for, hvor ledes vi bestræber os på at skabe fremgang i denne komplicerede problematik, der har så stor betydning for borgerne i Europa.
Mr Van den Broek, President-in-Office of the Council. — (NL) It is always tiresome for the President of the Council to have to begin with a rather evasive answer, but let me explain why we have been having something of a problem with Mrs Larive-Groenendaal's question.
Fru Boot har spurgt mig, hvad det præcis er for en fremgang, som jeg omtalte i mit første indlæg. Jeg går ud fra, at også dette ærede
It concerns measures to combat violence at sport events, in itself an extremely important subject which we realize should also be considered by the Council.
Vi begynder med spørgsmål til Rådet.
But a question that has been raised in the Council is whether we should obstruct what is being done in this sphere within the larger forum of the Council of Europe.
Spørgsmål 1004/85):
They come under a different heading.
Om: Møde under det nederlandske formandskab mellem sportsministrene i Det europæiske Fællesskab medlem er klar over, hvor længe dette spørgsmål har været drøftet i Rådet, og at vi nu i hvert fald er nået til et punkt, hvor vi kan sige, at kun en delegation endnu har indvendinger.
And if the Commission puts for ward proposals in this respect, I hasten to add that we shall give them due consideration. What I am trying to say to Mrs Larive-Groenendaal is that in these circumstances we do not plan to have a meeting of the Coun cil of Ministers responsible for sport.
Da den ærede forespørger, fru Vayssade, nu opfordrer mig til, inden rådssamlin­gen om del interne marked den 18. marts træffer beslutning, endnu en gang at se omhyggeligt på ind­holdet af dette direktiv, da det egentlig kun er et lille skridt fremad, skal jeg med glæde gøre det.
Mrs Larive-Groenendaal (LDR). — (NL) It is clear that certain Member States, one or two, need some persuading before they agree to sport being considered at Community level, and I am not referring solely to measures to combat violence in sport when I say this.
Jeg skal for min del da anmode om forståelse for, at vi skal søge at nå til enighed mellem tolv regeringsledere om dette punkt og samtidig søge at sikre, at der nu også opnås fremskridt den 18. marts.
We had the same kind of reluctance, for example, where education and culture were concerned, and that reluctance was eventually overcome.
Også det er en opga­ve, som formandskabet gerne vil påtage sig.
I therefore think it important to make a start on a common sports policy.
Van den Broek, formand for Rådet. — (NL) Det er altid kedeligt for rådsformanden al skulle indlede med et noget henholdende svar, men lad mig kort forklare det problem, vi har med fru Larive­Groe­nendaals spørgsmål.
Mr Van den Broek. — (NL) We are, of course, sufficiently familiar with the details of the tragedy in Belgium and the discussions that followed.
Det drejer sig her om bekæmpel­se af vold ved sportsarrangementer, et i og for sig usædvanligt vigtigt emne, og vi erkender da også, at det er meget hensigtsmæssigt at drøfte det i Rådet, men spørgsmålet har rejst sig hos os, om vi bør fore­tage os noget, der kan kolidere med de aktiviteter, der på dette område foregår i Europarådet.
All I was trying to say was that it seemed inappropriate to us to do anything in a Community context that might obstruct certain initiatives which are being developed in the Council of Europe to combat vandalism at sports arenas.
Det får os til at være tilbageholdende med, skal vi sige. selv at tage initiativ til at sammenkalde et såkaldt »Sportsminis­terråd«.
That is all I said, and that is also why I answered Mrs Larive-Groenendaal's question as I did.
Jeg har vist hermed dokumenteret, at formandskabet faktisk arbejder på sagen, og at det er helt klar over denne sags vigtighed. Dette kan og må bestemt ikke blive det sidste skridt på dette område.
Mr Gawronski (LDR). — (IT) As a citizen of a coun try that suffered in a particular manner from the dramatic events at the Brussels stadium — which hit sport generally — I wish to support the request tabled by Mrs Larive-Groenendaal.
Med hensyn hertil må der fremover ventes mere af Kommission­en, end den hidtil har gjort. Det vil vi gå helt og fuldt ind for.
I think that, in order to eliminate violence in sports stadiums, or at least to con tain it, we need regulations at European level, as the honourable Member herself rightly urged.
Jeg beklager naturligvis meget de episoder, som i eftermiddag er blevet omtalt af forskellige ære­de medlemmer, og hvoraf det fremgår, at det sker — selv når der er truffet aftaler om lettelser — at disse aftaler ikke overholdes.
In this context I should like to ask you if you do not think it would be useful to compile an inventory of the various activities already being undertaken in the field of sport that would qualify for consideration at Community level.
Det forholder sig således — som det også er blevet påpeget i eftermiddag — at en række lande så som Benelux­landene, Forbundsrepu­blikken Tyskland og Frankrig ikke har kunnet tøjle deres utålmodighed og med hensyn til den frie per­sontrafik ønskede at tage et klart skridt fremed i fæl­lesskab.
I am thinking, for example, of employ ment projects financed by the European Social Fund and perhaps the European Regional Fund to adapt sports facilities to European standards in the form of 'plough-back' projects, for instance, with which you as a Dutchman will not be unfamiliar.
Også disse sager er under debat, men de er af en anden art. Hvis Kommissionen stiller forslag på dette punkt, vil jeg straks sige, at vi dér atter føler os hjemme.
The European Parliament called for this in its interim report in July 1985, and five Member States made the same request in a letter they sent to the Commission in October.
Jeg vil derfor sige fru Larive, at vi på denne baggrund ikke agter at afholde et møde i Rådet af sportsministre. Jeg kan godt foreslille mig, at der nu, hvor der er udsigt til et møde i det pågældende udvalg, måske vil være lejlighed til for det kompeten­te formandskab at tage det emne op, som fru Larive her har bragt på bane.
I should like to take this opportunity to ask the Coun cil whether, in the sphere of its responsibilities on the subject of sport in our Community, it intends to call an extraordinary meeting to take definite action, follow ing what has been said here today.
Vi går nu over til afstemningen om anmodningerne om afstemning snarest muligt om de tre beslutnings­forslag om passage over Fællesskabets indre græn­ser. (Anmodningerne blev imødekommet)
Mr Van den Broek. — (NL) I can do little more at the moment than note the remarks of the last two speak ers.
Afstemningen om de tre beslutningsforslag finder sted i næste afstemningstid.
I have in fact already answered their questions.
Lig­nende betænkeligheder havde de f.eks. også ved un­dervisning og kultur, og her blev betænklighederne i sidste instans overvundet.
You said that the Presidency would be prepared to consider proposals from the Commission for special activities at Community level.
Derfor mener jeg. at det trods alt er vigtigt at få indledt en fælles sportspoli­tik.
Will the Council treat such proposals with sympathy?
I denne forbindelse vil jeg gerne spørge Dem, om De dog ikke finder det nyttigt at udarbejde en fortegnelse over de forskellige aktiviteter på sportsområdet, der allerede finder sted. og som ville kunne komme i betragtning for behandling i EF­regie.
At stake are the free movement of people, not only supporters, and the free movement of services, by which I mean, for example, the transfer of professional football players.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er anden del af spørgetiden (dok. Β 2­1690/85).
The Adonnino Committee wanted a people's Europe, and I believe sport must definitely play a part in it.
Europa-Parlamentet har i en interimsbetænkning i juli insisteret herpå, og ligeledes har fem medlemssta ter i oktober sendt Kommissionen en skrivelse med samme anmodning.
What action is now envisaged by the Council of Ministers in view of the rejection by the Danish Parliament of the intergovernmental agreement on institutional reform drawn up in Luxembourg in December 1985?
Selva (PPE). — (IT) Hr. rådsformand, jeg vil også meget gerne fuldt ud støtte det. som min ærede kollega, fru Larive-Groenendaal sagde.
Mr Brok (PPE). — (DE) Mr President of the Coun cil, since at present the sports teams of one Member State cannot take part in sporting events in other Member States — for instance in the European Cup Final — because of the events at Heysel Stadium, would it not be advisable for the Council to call on the Commission to take measures to formulate standards so that discrimination of this kind based on actual situations is no longer necessary?
Jeg griber denne lejlighed til at spørge Rådet, om det inden for rammerne af de beføjelser, det har i Fælles skabet på sportsområdet, agter at indkalde til et ekstraordinært møde med henblik på en konkret op følgning af det, der her er blevet fremført.
Do you not also con sider that it would be advisable rapidly to convene the Council of Ministers responsible for sport together with the Ministers responsible for security questions, so that measures can be taken to spare us such events in future?
Jeg finder ikke. at man bør undervurdere Rådets ansvar i forbindelse med sportsbegivenheder.
As you know, the result of the vote was positive, which the Presidency and the other Member States welcome.
Adonnino-komiteen ønskede borgernes Europa, og jeg finder, at sporten også bør spille en rolle her.
Like Greece and Italy, Denmark has now signed the European Act.
Van den Broek. — (NL) Jeg kan vanskeligt gøre andet i øjeblikket end at tage de to sidste spørgeres be mærkninger til efterretning.
Mr Megahy (S). — Events have overtaken the original question, so I merely note the reply.
Jeg har faktisk allerede besvaret spørgsmålene.
I do note think there is any need for a supplementary question.
Det vedrørte mit svar i første række.
Subject: OECD employment outlook
Kuijpers (ARC). — (NL) Jeg vil gerne stille Rådet dette tillægsspørgsmål: Har det kendskab til de begivenheder, der er foregået hos os i Belgien i anledning af Heysel-dramaet — og navnlig til følgende kendsgerning?
Mr Van den Broek. — (NL) I would remind the honourable Member that the problem we are discussing, measures to combat vandalism and the very serious consequences it may have, is not, of course, confined solely and exclusively to the 12 Member States of the European Community.
Må jeg høre Rådets svar på dette?
Once again, this argument must not be allowed to detract from the seriousness of the problem, but the background as I have explained it leads me to the conclusions I have outlined in answer to Mrs Larive-Groenendaal's questions.
Brok (PPE). — (DE) Hr. rådsformand, da sportsholdene fra én medlemsstat på nuværende tidspunkt ikke kan deltage i sportslige arrangementer i andre medlemsstater — f.eks.
What is the Council's view of the statement in the OECD's third annual employment outlook which says that although high labour costs contributed to unemployment in the 1970s, European real labour costs have grown less than 1% per year since 1982, slower than productivity, and cannot be made the scapegoat for the recent surge in unemployment?
Europa-pokalturneringen i fodbold — på grund af begivenhederne på Heyselstadion, rejser der sig det spørgsmål, om det ikke var hensigtsmæssigt, om Rådet opfordrede Kommission en til at tage initiativer til, at der bliver udarbejdet standarder, således at denne form for diskriminering på baggrund af rent faktiske forhold ikke længere er nødvendig.
Mrs Seibel-Emmerling (S). — (DE) I would like to ask whether quite contrary to what the Council representative has just told us it would not be desirable for the European Community to speak with one voice in the Council of Europe too, which is quite certainly concerned with matters pertaining to the European Community as a whole.
Er De ikke også af den opfattelse, at det ville være hensigtsmæssigt hurtigst muligt ved indkaldelse af Rådet af sportsministre sammen med ministrene med ansvar for sikkerhedsspørgsmål at tage et initiativ, således at vi spares for sådanne begivenheder fremover?
We know that these things have occurred within the Community. We also know how necessary it is for the 12 Member States to adopt a uniform position in the Council of Europe too.
Det er det eneste, jeg har sagt, og det er også årsagen til, at jeg besvarede Fru Larive-Groenendaals spørgsmål, som jeg gjorde.
President. — I have the feeling that that was not a question, and I would ask the President-in-Office to refrain from answering.
Van den Broek. — (NL) Jeg vil gerne gøre det ærede medlem opmærksom på, at det problem, der her er under diskussion, nemlig bekæmpelse af vandalisme og de meget alvorlige følger, som denne vandalisme kan have, naturligvis ikke ene og alene berører de tolv medlemsstater i Det europæiske Fællesskab.
Mr Van den Broek, President-in-Office of the Council. — (NL) The honourable Member's question about the OECD's employment outlook leads me to say that it is not the Council's business to comment on the OECD's 1985 report on employment prospects.
Det, der slår mig lidt — og det slår mig, fordi jeg naturligis står hér som rådsformand, men samtidig også er medlem af Europarådets ministerkomité — er, at der netop i dette sidstnævnte, Dem så velkendte organ i Europarådet blev rettet en indtrængende appel til os om ikke samtidig at behandle de sager, der drøftes der, i De Tolv, især ikke, når det drejer sig om den
The Council would point out, however, that the Community strategy for more employment-generating growth, proposed by the Commission and approved by the Council, Ecofin, on 20 September 1985, should make it possible to increase the Community's annual growth rate from the 2.5% that has been calculated hitherto to 3 to 3.5% and to ensure that this growth creates more jobs.
Gawronski (LDR). — (IT) Som borger i et land, der i særlig grad har lidt under det drama, der fandt sted
Since the author is not present, Question No 84 will be answered in writing.1
Europa er siden 1982 steget mindre end 1 % om året — hvilket er mindre end produktiviteten — og de kan således ikke anføres som årsag til den nylige kraftige stigning i arbejdsløsheden? den?
Mr Lalor (RDE). — I was rather surprised to hear the President-in-Office of the Council say that he did not feel that it was necessary for the Council to comment. That is the impression I got from his opening remarks.
slags sager, hvor det vanskeligt kan siges og bevises, at de henhører under Kommissionens eller Fællesskabets kompetance.
In view of the OECD's observations, does the President-in-Office of the Council not agree that inflation can no longer be blamed by Member States for the further alarming continuous growth in the numbers unemployed?
Endnu en gang, dette argument må ikke på nogen måde forklejne alvoren af det problem, der her gøres opmærksom på, men den baggrund, jeg har skitseret for Dem, fører mig til de konklusioner, jeg har nævnt i mit svar på fru Larives spørgsmål.
In the light of the OECD's findings, could the Council itself show some little capacity to be more productive in creating much-needed and gainful employment rather than promising some sort of per centage increase by 1990? Could we have some action now from the Council and from the Member States?
Seibel-Emmerling (S). — (DE) Jeg vil gerne spørge, om det ikke i modsætning til det, som rådsformanden netop har meddelt os, netop var ønskeligt, om Det europæiske Fællesskab talte med én stemme i Euro parådet, når det med sikkerhed drejer sig om Det europæiske Fællesskab som helhed.
In my answer to the previous questioner I referred to a number of elements which must be seen as laying the foundations and even as absolutely essential if employ ment-generating growth is to be achieved.
Vi ved, at disse ting netop har fundet sted i Det europæiske Fælles skab.
I men tioned, for example, an improvement in the flexibility of all the markets: labour, goods, services and capital.
Vi ved også, hvor nødvendigt det er, at de tolv medlemsstater også i Europarådet indtager en fælles holdning.
The latter must include the removal of obstacles at frontiers, since this is absolutely vital to the economic growth we are trying to achieve.
Van den Broek, formand for Rådet. — (NL) Det ære de medlems spørgsmål om OECDs beskæftigelsesprognose giver mig lejlighed til at bemærke, at det ikke tilkommer Rådet at fremsætte bemærkninger til OECDs 1985-rapport om beskæftigelsesudsigterne.
Mr Maher (LDR). — I have listened since 1979 to previous Presidents-in-Office of the Council — maybe even yourself on a previous occasion — give, as one reason for the problem of unemployment in the Community, the very high value of the dollar as compared with the European currencies.
Dog vil jeg erindre Rådet om, at den fællesskabsstrategi for en mere beskæftigelsesfremmende vækst, der blev foreslået af Kommissionen og vedtaget af Rådet af økonomi- og finansministre den 20. december 1985, bør gøre det muligt at sætte Fællesskabets underliggende vækstrate op fra de hidtidige forventede 2,5% om året til 3 eller 3,5% om året, og at denne vækst resulterer i flere arbejdspladser.
Now the dollar has gone in the opposite direction. Can you tell me what benefits there are in terms of further employment creation resulting from the fall in the dollar, because it stands to reason that if it was causing problems of unemployment when it was rising, conversely it ought to be helping the situation as it falls?
Formanden. — Jeg har ikke på fornemmelsen at det var et spørgsmål, og jeg vil da heller ikke anmode rådsformanden om at besvare det.
Mr Van den Broek. — (NL) The honourable Member understood me correctly when I said that it was not primarily the business of the Council as such to comment on the OECD report and to that extent it was not necessary, because the answer to the honourable Member's comments in largely to be found in the Commission's annual report and the plan for the strategy of cooperation for more employment-generating growth, which summarizes the various components that have also been discussed in the Council and should clearly lead to an increase in employment or, if you like, a decrease in unemployment.