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Bocklet. — (DE) Hr. formand, jeg er indforstået med forslaget fra hr. Hord om at sætte dette uopsættelige forslag på dagsordenen som tredje punkt.
We must begin to work out a more thorough way to look at the underlying sources of disagreement in regard to which Com missioner Davignon gave us indication of his appreciation in his most interesting introduction.
(Parlamentet tog indsigelsen fra Hord med flere tilfølge)
Mr President, I thought that Mr Fanti's opening com ment that we must get away from anachronistic crusades was on the right lines.
1-615/82) af sir Fred Warner og andre til udenrigsministrene for Det europæiske Fællesskabs 10 medlemsslande:
But it is a general message that we could all accept that we must look at the real difficulties, whether they are in agricultural trade, in steel or in other products that circulate, across the boundaries between us.
Castle. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg ville gerne have en beretning om, hvad der vil ske med der uopsættelige
Indeed, it is here that we find the deeper significance of the economic war which the USA has unleashed on the EEC countries.
(') Afgørelse om anmodninger om afstemning snarest
The unswerving aims of the Pentagon madmen remain the development of missiles in Europe and a limited nuclear war on European territory.
Den 7. juli 1982 meddelte formanden for Udenrigsministerrådet Parlamentet, at Laos-spørgsmålet ikke havde været drøftet i dette organ.
The causes and objectives of the overthrow of the Schmidt Government in the Federal Republic of Germany are an open secret — Washington's man, Mr Genscher, was the lever behind this overthrow.
Han ville sørge for, at sagen blev taget op.
The Christian Democrat Mr Kohl has taken power — Mr Kohl who
Formanden et uafhængigt og neutralt Laos og i betragtning af de løfter herom, der er indeholdt i aftalerne af 1964 og 1975, vil Parlamentet gerne have'en rede gørelse for de drøftelser, der har fundet sted i Udenrigsministerrådet, og svar på følgende spørgsmål: Hvad vil Udenrigsministerrådet gøre for at sikre, at et uafhængigt og neutralt Laos kommer til at indgå i en fredsordning i Sydøstasien? asien?
Adamou of America supports its agriculture practically to the, same degree as we do in the European Community, and we do not deny that we support it. The Americans do tend to deny that they give the same measure of support to their farmers as we do, but the difference is negligible; both of us do it.
år var langt mere præcis end den tidligere Genevetraktat.
Naturally the Cossacks have not yet come, nor will they ever come to conquer Western Europe.
Igen skrev nordvietnameserne under, og igen gjorde det ikke den ringeste forskel.
What will certainly come is the Soviet gas pipeline in order to contribute to Western Europe's peaceful development.
Sir Fred Warner. — (EN) Hr. formand, Laos' historie, Cambodias historie og Vietnams historie siden sejren over Japan i 1945 har drejet sig om et spørgsmål og kun et: findes der tre uafhængige stater mellem Mekong og Det indiske Hav, eller skal der kun være en?
However, in the meantime, unless the Americans fail in their efforts, the American Pershing missiles will have arrived to destroy Europe.
Vi andre, herunder De forenede Stater, vendte da ryggen til og opgav enhver interesse i Laos' skæbne.
Two worlds, two policies, the case is highly character istic.
Vi anerkender stadig Laos' marionetregime i dag.
The United States overthrew a government hoping to crush any resistance to their plans.
Og således er det gået til, at der fortsat er vietnamesiske tropper på mere end 50 000 mand i Laos til trods for alle bestræbelser herimod.
We hope that the leadership of the EEC and the governments of the Member States will not be lacking in logic, sobriety and realism.
Tallet er ikke grebet ud af luften, vi har fået det fra medlemmer af Pathet Lao — (den lokale kommunistbevægelse) — og fra de medlemmer af det tidligere regime, som stadig omgås det nuværende regime og heldigvis for dem har undgået at blive slagtet.
Above all, however, we hope and believe that the peace movement of the peoples of Western Europe, which is embracing increasingly wider strata of the population, will finally block the path of those who wish to destroy humanity and that it will strengthen peace and cooperation between States regardless of their social systems.
I kolonitiden skabte franskmændene en kunstig stats dannelse kaldet Indokina, og de administrerede den fra Hanoi.
It has raised interest rates, although now I notice happily that they are tending to come down a bit again.
Da japanerne og derefter franskmændene drog bort, gav det nordvietnamesiske regime sig straks til at genskabe den vietnamesiske nations enhed og samtidig genskabe Hanois overherredømme over hele det tidligere Indokina.
All this has made the US uncompetitive on the markets of the world when exporting its products. That applies not only to agricultural products but to steel as well, but this is not admitted.
Det var ubekvemt for dem, at De forenede Nationer i mellemtiden havde anerkendt Laos og Cambodia som uafhængig stater og optaget dem som medlemmer i FN.
I think it is time that.we faced up to the US on this problem and made them understand that if they are going to pursue policies which might suit them internally, they should not blame others if those policies create problems for them on the export market.
Men det ændrede ikke de vietnamesiske planer det fjerneste.
They should not blame the EEC for it.
Hvad gør nu disse vietnamesiske tropper dér?
President. — I call Mr Maher.
Deres mål er at holde den nuværende ikke-valgte regering i Laos og de talrige vietnamesiske og russiske rådgivere, som styrer den, ved magten. Disse personer ville ikke holde tre uger uden fremmede tropper til at beskytte dem alle. Og endelig er det bekvemt at kunne skaffe føden til en del af den vietnamesiske stående hær på koternes bekostning. Det kan ikke undre, at der er fødevaremangel i landet.
A related problem, which the Americans are also not admitting, is that through their support policies for agriculture they have been fairly steeply increasing agricultural production, in grains in particular and also in dairy products.
Det havde nok været bedre, hvis De forenede Stater i realiteten havde erkendt, hvad der skete, og ikke havde behandlet det som en kommunistisk imperialistisk kampagne.
Mr Maher. — Mr President, I too must agree with those who have said that we do not want to engage in a trade war, or indeed any kind of war, with the United States of America.
Kommunismen havde kun lidt at gøre med nordvietnamesernes motivation i denne specielle sag.
We all recognize the absolutely vital role it is playing in the world today, parti cularly in the context of the East-West confrontation.
Da Diem og hans efterfølgere kæmpede mod franskmændene og amerikanerne for at genforene Cochin og Annam med Tonkin, besatte de også deres naboers — Laos' og Cambodias — territorier med henblik på at forbedre deres militære forbindelser og indsætte majorinetregimer, som ville anerkende Hanois overherredømme.
And, of course, there is nothing that the countries behind the Iron Curtain would like better than to see Europe, and the European Community in particular, engaged in any kind of confrontation with the United States of America. So that we must avoid.
Denne opgave viste sig at være langt vanskeligere, end de havde forstillet sig.
At the same time, of course, it does not mean that we have to go on our knees to the USA.
Så snart rishøsten er i lade i hver landsby, kommer vietnameserne for at fjerne alt, som ikke behøves til at sikre landsbybefolkningens blotte overlevelse.
Again and again I have been amazed at the ignorance of many important people in influential positions in the USA about the policies of the European Economic Community.
Laos bidrager nu kraftigt til at fjerne en del af den vældige fødevaremangel i Vietnam.
It is extraordinary that that should be so, but it is the case.
Vi i Europa mente dengang ligesom De forenede Stater og de andre lande i Sydøstasien, at Laos og Cambodia skulle være fuldstændig uafhængige lande. Frankrig og Storbritannien sluttede sig til andre i de to år med forhandlinger, som førte til Laos-traktaten af 1962.
Mr President, the Americans complain about our pro tectionist policies and our failure to import more from them.
Denne garanterede Laos' uafhængighed og territoriale integretet.
We have increasing imports from the US, particularly of grains and feed grains.
De fortsatte i de næste ti år med at føre uafbrudt krig imod den laotiske regering og benyttede meget let gennemskuelige lokale »frihedsbevægelser« til at maskere deres egne Viet cong-troppers angreb.
We import it in order to feed our live stock, and this livestock creates products which we dispose of on world markets.
Hvad er resultatet af alt dette?
The Americans cannot have it both ways.
De thailandske myndigheder erkender, at der er mere end 100 000 laotiske flygtninge i deres lejre, men langt flere er forsvundet ud på landet ude omkring, hvor befolkningen stort set er af laotisk oprindelse.
They insist that we should be importing more grains, and at the same time they complain when we appear on world markets with the products resulting directly from that grain.
Men det er for det meste landsbybeboere, som er trætte af at dyrke føde for blot at fa den fjernet.
I have to draw attention — since, of course, I am interested in agriculture — to the statements made by Mr Block.
Så ligesom i Afghanistan er måske 10 % af befolkningen nu i eksil.
It is absolutely astounding that he should be so ignorant of what we are trying to do.
Hr. formand, det er i dag her i galleriet modige og hæderlige mænd til stede, som er flygtet for livet og som nu leder laotiske samfund i udlandet.
It is amazing that he should talk about having a battle with us and acting aggressively against the European Economic Community, when he knows or must know very well that, even while he is being critical of the common agricultural policy, the difference between us in terms of the policies that we pursue is very, very slight indeed.
Deres eneste ønske er at
Indeed, it can be argued that the United States
I 1973 blev der gjort en ny international bestræbelse på at redde Laos og Cambodia.
Mr President, I think it is rather sad that the Americans and ourselves should be engaged in this kind of war, if you like, while at the same time we know very well that in the next 20 years millions of people are going to die of hunger every year in the Third World.
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We should be joining together to see how we could use these extra products in order to ensure that these
Formanden. — Som afslutning på forhandling, en om denne forespørgsel har vi modtaget et forslag til beslutning af sir Fred Warner m.fl. (dok. 1-739/82).
Maher which is apparently still true today: 'what is good for Ford is good not only for the United States but for the entire world!' people have enough to eat, which is the basic security needed for reliable and rational development in these particular countries.
Men det skændigste af alt har været brugen af kemiske våben imod bjergbefolkningen for at tvinge dem ud af deres boliger.
I would suggest that that is where we should be looking together at how we can improve the position in the Third World.
Ganske vist har bjergbefolkningen været i oprør mod deres undertrykkere, men intet kan retfærdiggøre brugen af »den gule regn«, leveret af Sovjetunionen, imod hele befolkninger.
These surplus products should be looked upon not as a problem but as an asset.
Cohen. — (NL) Hr. formand, efter sir Fred Warners indlæg vil jeg ikke engang have brug for ti minutter.
President. — I call Mr Fuchs.
Vi beder om fire ting: for det første en ny understregning af Fællesskabets interesse i Laos' uafhængighed med en anmodning om tilbagetrækning af fremmede tropper og en afslutning på indblanding i Laos' politiske forhold; for det andet en forsikring om, at Laos ikke vil blive glemt i nogen drøftelse om en cambodiansk løsning; for det tredje en hurtig afslutning på FN's undersøgelser vedrørende kemisk krigsførelse.
However for us, French Socialists, the dialogue between the European Com munity and the United States can only be a dialogue between equals, where concessions must be on a strictly reciprocal basis, such strict reciprocity being particularly necessary in the difficult times we are experiencing today.
Og for det fjerde tilstrækkelig økonomisk hjælp og fødevarehjælp til flygtningene.
We consider the Commission's present positions on the gas pipelines, steel or the common agricultural policy as satisfactory.
Det er ikke nogen enkel sag for Parlamentet, at tale om situationen i Sydøstasien.
Mr Gérard Fuchs. — (FR) Mr President, I have just heard statements on gas pipelines, steel, agriculture, interest rates and currency.
Parlamentet har ikke nogen officiel kontakt med de lande, det drejer sig om: Laos, Kampuchea og Vietnam. Vi har kontakter til ASEAN, der er en ASEAN-delegation, og som led i vore forbindelser med ASEAN taler vi jævnligt om situationen i de tre andre lande: Kampuchea, Laos og Vietnam. Men selve Parlamentet har altså ingen kontakt med disse lande, og kan heller ikke have kontakt med et land som Kampuchea, som Fælles skabet ikke engang har anerkendt dvs. ikke den regering, der nu har sæde i Pnom-Penh.
I must say that I do not share the optimism of some colleagues as regards the chances of a rapid settlement of all these questions, including that of steel, but above all I would like to say: today, let there be no mistake, the key problem of relations between the European Community and the United States is a political problem.
Alligevel har Parlamentet, på grund af den humanitære hjælp, der ydes Kampuchea, sidste år sendt en delegation til dette land.
Mrs Gaiotti De Biase. — (IT) Mr Ellemann-Jensen, Mr Davignon, when we look at the problems of regional groupings which have marked international affairs in the last year and see what a danger and a threat they are to world peace, I feel we are even more justified in viewing the trade conflict between Europe and the USA as a potential threat and danger.
Jeg var medlem af delegationen og vi kunne konstatere, at Fællesskabets humanitære bistand, på nogle få undtagelser nær, anvendes på en god måde. I Laos er situationen anderledes.
The basic grounds for solidarity between the two sides still depend on a common political background and way of thinking.
Dette Parlament har overhovedet ikke nogen kontakt med Laos, og under de nuværende omstændigheder kan jeg ikke se, hvorledes det kan ændres.
Ladies and gentlemen, I should like to refer rapidly to the votes cast here yesterday, in connection with the Vredeling Directive.
Siden 1979 er Kampuchea besat af Vietnam, befriet af Vietnam, er der nogle, der siger i Kampuchea, men verdensopinionen er ikke helt overbevist om det. Heller ikke vi er overbeviste om det og har endnu ikke anerkendt regeringen i Pnom-Penh.
These votes reflected undoubtedly the classical conflict between the right and the left, between those who consider that democracy stops at companies' gates, that a worker is scarecely more than the as yet inevitable accessory of capital and machinery, and those for whom absolute monarchy must come to an end in the economic sphere just as in the political sphere, those for whom production must serve man and not the reverse.
Vietnams besættelse af Laos er gået mere langsomt, og det kan
However, the vote yes terday also reflected the différence in viewpoint which I mentioned in the context of our relations with the United States.
Der var ingen sociale spændinger og et poli tisk roligt klima.
Gaiotti De Biase rest of the world are radically different.
Den gives, men ikke i tilstrækkeligt omfang.
would really guarantee stability in the world.
Der er kun to medlemsstater, der giver udviklingsbistand til Laos: Frankrig, og mit land, Nederlandene.
A great number of correct things were said about steel, but we must realize that the problem of revival in this sector will not be played out simply within the European and American economies but has to be viewed in terms of international expansion.
Fællesskabets andre lande undgår kontakt med Laos, og undgår ligeledes kontakt med det land, der nu hedder Kampuchea, hvilken regering der end er ved magten.
The aim of a strong Europe, speaking with one voice and with an institutional identity, was rightly emphasized by Mr Fanti, although there is some ambiguity about the question when you remember that the French Communists also signed it.
Hvad det kommunistiske diktatur i Nordvietnam gjorde mod dette land, er en sand forbrydelse mod menneskeheden.
A number of mistakes have been made in the past where this is concerned.
Der finder et ubarmhjertigt folkemord sted med nordvietnamesernes massive kolonisation af landet og udrydningskrigen mod dem, som endnu ønsker at leve i frihed.
At the last meeting of the Committee on Institutional Affairs the chairman, Mr Petrilli, mentioned the mistake that was made by deferring, as it were, to the Americans on the matter of energy, after we had had the oil crisis, without pay ing attention to the basic differences as far as our interests were concerned.
Det siger ikke mindst de 400 000 laotere, af en befolkning på 3,5 mio., som var tvunget til at forlade deres land.
The world economic crisis lies at the root of this trade war, and in this instance it is a war between the rich.
Laokulturen har beriget os mere, end vi aner.
The richer we are, the more we are to blame.
I første linje vil vi vække vor offentlige menings inte resse for Laos. Vi kan ikke forblive udeltagende over for dette folks skæbne.
The basic question which has to be put to the Council and the Commission is the usual one.
Situationen i den del af verden er meget flydende.
(The President urged the speaker to conclude)
Men vi må også gå ind for, at Laos ikke bliver glemt i den internationale politik. Enhver forhandling om en løsning af problemet Sydøstasien må også indeholde spørgsmålet om genoprettelse af Laos' frihed og suverænitet, for kun således kan der igen komme fred til en region, som ikke mindst for Europa er af over ordentlig stor interesse.
Let me say by way of conclusion that the political par ties in this Parliament, who say they want a relation ship of equality between the USA and the EEC, are not always so clear in outlining the institutional and Community policies which are needed to bring about such equality.
Hr. formand, det er det socialistiske gruppes stand punkt med hensyn til situationen i Sydøstasien.
The present conflict is not just a matter between the USA and the Community.
Men vi må til stadighed beskæftige os med situationen og forsøge at ændre den i positiv retning.
Mr Notenboom was reflecting the ideas of our group when he mentioned this.
Laos' skæbne indeholder imidlertid også for os en lære, der er værd at lægge sig på sinde: Den svage part og det kan være en nok så elskværdig og neutral part, kan i vor verden i længden ikke leve som nabo til en totalitær magt.
At the bilateral level we have to remember that our role and our bargaining power — whether in bilateral talks or within international bodies such as GATT and the like — are not conditoned solely by our intentions.
Freden er kun sikret, når den fredelige stat er så stærk, at den krigslystne ikke tør angribe. Det burde vi europæere ikke glemme!
When it comes to international relations, even among friends, strength is going to win out in the end, and I am amazed that a Marxist like Mr Galluzzi is surprised at this.
Så snart man ikke mere kunne fordømme amerika nerne, blev disse lande uinteressante for alt for mange angivelige forkæmpere for menneskerettighederne.
A great number of correct statements, which I go along with, have been made about the Siberian pipeline, but the fact is that if the Community had been more independent with regard to technology, and less reliant on others, the problem would have arisen in different terms.
Lejlighedsvis har folkemordet i Kampuchea og dramaet med bådsfolkene fået omtale, men hvad var det sammenlignet med de daværende vietnamdemonstrationer? strationer?
A great number of things were said about money, but the fact is that during the decisive years there was no effort to build a European monetary system which
Prag. — (EN) Ja faktisk, hr. formand, blev jeg som næstformand og politisk talsmand for ASEAN-landenes parlamentariske delegation af min ven, delegationsformand Günter Rinsche, anmodet om at tale i
Secondly, would the President agree that it really is hypocritical of a Member to make those remarks, make a speech in this debate and then leave the Chamber himself? For this is exactly what Lord O'Hagan has done.
Med hensyn til spørgsmålet om støtte rejst af hr. Cohen, som beklageligvis ikke mere er til stede, er problemet, som han udmærket ved, at hjælpen kun kan fordeles af regeringsagenturer, og at vi ikke har nogen kontrol over den.
Boyes knowing full well they have gone to one of the other fifty or sixty meetings that are taking place probably at this moment.
forbindelse med dette forslag, hvilket jeg synes er endnu et tegn på det nære samarbejde, som findes mellem vore kristelig­demokratiske kolleger og min egen gruppe.
Since they are no longer here now — I will not quote any names because it would appear that they have more important things to do than to listen to the answers to their questions — I will not discuss this.
Før jeg slutter, vil jeg gerne rose en medlemsstat her i Fællesskabet — Frankrig — for den måde, hvorpå det har modtaget laotiske flygtninge.
President. — Mr Boyes, your remarks will appear in the Report of Proceedings as well as Lord O'Hagan's, and that means that they are put in their proper con text. I would leave it at that.
Vi er alle bekendt med det cambodianske folks lidelser: først under deres lokale kommunister, Khmer Rouge­regimet, og nu under et vietnamesisk kommunistisk styre, som er påtvunget af en vietname­sisk besættelseshær på tæt ved 200 000 mand. Laos er imidlertid blevet Sydøstasiens glemte land, og vi må minde os selv om, at det også er besat af en fremmed militærstyrke.
Mr Ellemann-Jensen, President-in-Office of the Council. — (DA) Mr President, I should like, on behalf of the Council to thank Parliament for this debate which has stressed the great importance which this Parliament also attaches to transatlantic relations.
Dets lille befolkning, som De har hørt, antagelig kun lidt over 3 mio — de har ikke folketæl­linger eller har ikke haft det meget længe — holdes også nede af en forhadt vietnamesisk besættelseshær på 50 000 mand.
It has become apparent that people fully realize that in our relations with the United States we will often find that our interests do not coincide and that it will quite often be perfectly natural for us to be competitors in economic fields.
Men kulturelt og sprogligt har dets befolkning kun lidt til fælles med det vietnamesiske folk lige så lidt som den cambodianske befolkning.
However, at the same time many speakers have stressed that the United States and Europe share the same destiny, the same goals and the same values and that this means that we have a duty to try and find a solution to all the problems facing us.
Laoterne ligner i langt højere grad thailænderne end vietnameserne.
My last remark is that I believe that it is very important that the debate on the question of EEC-USA relations be continued with Parliament.
De taler et sprog, der ligner deres, selv om de skriver det med andre bogstaver, og kulturelt er de meget tæt på befolkningen i Nordthailand.
I believe that Par liament, along with the Council and the Commission, has a role to play in making the discussion partners in the American legislative body aware of the problems.