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Vi kører derimod videre i det nittende århundrede, fordi vore nationale regeringer indtil nu ikke har været parate til at erkende virkeligheden, som den er, og lade forslagene om et . europæisk retsområde træde i kraft.
If you insist on that, I tell you that the pressures will build up to such an extent that we will very probably force our governments to put on national controls, and then where will all your invest ment be? Where will it be?
Patterson. — (EN) Vi misforstår hinanden, fru formand. Jeg taler om skriftlig stemmeforklaring.
There are still a lot of urgent problems to be dealt with in various sectors.
Problemet er, at der ved dagens afslutning ikke er mulighed for at forelægge en skriftlig stemmefor klaring før næste formiddag. Denne er derfor ikke opført i forhandlingsreferatet, eftersom dette allerede er trykt, når den følgende dags møde starter.
Our fears have now proved justified, and the producers have indeed been required to pay levies.
Er det muligt at få en afgørelse om, hvornår en skriftlig stemmeforklaring skal forelægges den følgende dag?
In the meat sector, prices were announced 14 days after the decision had been taken by the Council.
Formanden — Hr. Patterson, vi kan, eftersom der ikke findes fastsatte regler, forelægge det for udvalget for forretningsordenen, men det er min opfattelse, at den følgende formiddag er for sent, eftersom forhandlingsreferatet allerede er trykt.
However, negotiations on the dismemberment of carcasses are progressing very unsatisfactorily, with the result that it is practically impossible to ensure that the decision is applied properly.
Ud fra denne betragtning kan man anse det for givet, at terrorismen i den kommende tid vil vinde yderligere terræn, og at der stadig vil blive udgydt strømme af blod meningsløst.
German producers in particular are up in arms and have pointed out the risk of manipulation.
Under disse omstændigheder er det på tide, at vi, som de europæiske folks repræsentanter, foreholder de nationale regeringer deres ansvar og opfordrer dem til omsider at gøre noget, sådan som befolkningen stadig mere indtrængende appellerer til dem om, for vi har de nødvendige juridiske redskaber til det.
In the fruit and vegetables sector, the uncertainty was not removed until 14 July, and then only in a very unsatisfactory fashion — as a result, among other things, of the fact that the Commission wants to apply the support provisions only on an annual basis, which will in turn mean a loss of interest for the producers.
Europarådets udkast til konvention om bekæmpelse af terrorismen forbinder på en forbilledlig måde den nødvendige energi i beskyttelsen af borgerne med bevarelsen af det frie retssamfund.
Finally, the support provisions for skimmedmilk powder and skimmed milk were not decided on until 14 May, and uncertainty remained right up to that date.
Skriftlig stemmeforklaring må derfor senest indgives ved afslutningen af mødet, da trykningen påbegyndes umiddelbart efter.
But my more serious remarks are adressed to the Commission, because the Commission's performance in this whole'matter has been appalling.
Patterson. — (EN) Kan jeg anmode om, at dette spørgsmål henvises til udvalget for forretningsordenen og andragender, selv om jeg · ved denne lejlighed accepterer Deres afgørelser?
In June, in answer to a question on this matter, the Commissioner said that he would look into it.
Protokollen fra Dublin kunne på den anden side forbedre situationen fra den ene dag til den anden på EF's område, hvis blot regeringerne var parat til at handle.
He would look into a question that his own predecessor had said in October last year was a gross distortion of the market.
For de er skyld i, at der i de sidste år ikke er sket noget på dette område.
I assume from that that the Commission had not even discussed it.
Deres bureaukratiske virksomhed bærer ansvaret for, at der endnu i dag går alt for mange terrorister ustraffet omkring og truer vore borgere.
And on Monday this week, President Thorn — yes, President Thorn! — said that he could not do anything about it until September because he did not know who to telephone. Now for heaven's sake!
Derfor den foreliggende anmodning om uopsættelig forhandling.
The Commission is supposed to be the guardian of the Treaties.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er beslutningsforslag af Habsburg m.fl. for det euro pæiske folkepartis gruppe og af lady Elles m.fl. for den europæiske demokratiske gruppe, om bekæmpelse af terrorisme (dok. 1-368/81).
Am I to tell them the President of the Commission does not know who to call and therefore he cannot help them?
Siden dette års begyndelse har terrorismen i alle dens former taget voldsomt til.
I willingly agreed to stand in for him because, in the debate on the price decision, I had
Man kan ikke åbne en avis uden at læse om overfald og mord.
Generally speaking then, the whole process has been very unsatisfactory.
For alle Europas folk var i den forbindelse attentatet mod pave Johannes Paul II særlig chokerende, fordi det drejer sig om en person lighed, der altid kun gør godt, som ikke truer nogen, og som gennem sine rejser i alle lande havde givet mennesker lejlighed til at udtrykke deres følelser af tro og kærlighed.
For one thing, there was the into lerable and unjustifiable uncertainty borne by producers, cooperatives and by the trade in general as a result of belated or wrong decisions or simply the non-implementation of decisions.
Hvis paven er truet, så er vi alle truet med ham.
Secondly, we have witnessed the drop in incomes we had warned about earlier.
Man kan i bogstaveligste forstand tale om, at enhver sikkerhed hører op.
The important thing as far as we were concerned was not to get a figure down in writing.
Det må indrømmes, at bekæmpelse af terrorisme og for et lille land som mit er terrorisme pr. definition international — for den socialitiske gruppe er en sag, der naturligvis ligger os stærkt på hjerte.
It is therefore totally unwaranted for the uncertainties — as the text of the motion for a resolution has it — in respect of the organization of the market in sheepmeat to block the implementation of decisions in other sectors, to wit wheat, wine and olive oil.
Hvad vi derimod ikke kan acceptere er, at terrorismen bekæmpes med egne, nye, specielt udtænkte metoder, der i sig selv er terroristiske metoder.
I address that appeal to the Council not only in my capacity as spokesman for the Committee on Agriculture, but also on behalf of my Group.
Terror er et alvorligt onde, men demokrati er et meget større gode, og bekæmpelsen af terror bør først og frem-
I shall be interested to hear what the Commission and the Council have to say on this.
mest tage sit udgangspunkt i ønsket om at beskytte vore demokratiske normer.
President. — I call the Socialist Group.
Men den konvention, hr. Habsburg og andres beslutning henviser til, og den nævnte Dublin-aftale truer med at forlade det.førnævn te grundlag og truer med at udhule begrebet retsstat og dømme de sigtede fred løse.
Moving on to a few detailed points from the motion for a resolution, it seems to me in the first place that Mr Welsh ought to be looking elsewhere for the real problems. At a time when Dutch horticulturists are watching their own incomes and the profitability of their holdings coming under serious pressure, the real problem is one of imports.
I stedet for at styrke vor retssikkerhed, truer den med at underminere vort retssamfund.
What I was concerned about was whether the tomatoes in question were grown outside or under glass.
En retsstat, der uden Wenn und Aber gør krav på titlen retsstat, har så sandelig ikke brug for manøvrer af hr. Habsburgs slags.
It has been shown that it is impossible in Romania — at least in the months of May and June
Den europæiske konvention om bekæmpelse af terrorisme ville være en beundringsværdig konvention, hvis (a) alle medlemsstater havde ratificeret den, hvilket ikke er sket, og (b) hvis nogle af medlemsstaterne, som har ratificeret den, ikke havde taget så betydelige forbehold, at ratifikationen næsten er meningsløs.
Mr Woltjer. — (NL) Madam President, I must say that I listened with no small measure of surprise to what Mr Welsh had to say just now.
Derfor opfordrer Fællesskabet indtrængende medlemsstaterne til at ratificere Dublin-aftalen, hvilket er den anden af de fem forholdsregler, jeg taler om.
Under no circumstances can I endorse the piatire he painted of the current situation.
Hr. van Minnen, som tilsyneladende er terroristernes advokat her, hvis jeg må have lov til at titulere ham således, er udmærket klar over, at alle medlemsstaterne på nær én har undertegnet Dublin-aftalen, men at alle medlemsstater skal ratificerer den, før den kan træde i kraft.
Mr Welsh sought to give the impression that Dutch horticulturists were receiving a whopping subsidy and that the problems resulting from the Dutch Government's increase in the price of gas did not affect farmers in the Netherlands. As if the situation were as simple as that!
Der mangler således kun ratifikation fra yder ligere én medlemsstat, og aftalen vil få gyldighed og formentlig bidrage til at bekæmpe terrorismen.
Mr Welsh claimed that profitability was so high that the Dutch horticulturists could easily-pay the full price, and that British producers should be given a chance too.
' En tredje nødvendig forholdsregel, fru formand, er en meget strengere kontrol med handelen med illegale våben til Fællesskabet.
This just goes to show that Mr Welsh has not devoted very much attention to the problems and that he -is' ill-informed.
En virkelig retsstat vil netop vige tilbage.
There is one other important point I should like to add.
Hvordan skal det forstås, at der uden videre kan udleveres terrorister, dvs. personer, der mistænkes for terrorisme? Jeg kan til nød forestille mig det med hensyn til terrorister fra en bestemt periode i fortiden, der faktisk stadigvæk går udstraffet omkring.
It seems to me that, if someone accuses you of using unacceptable methods — something I ¡ncidently dispute on the grounds that they are in accordance with EEC rules — you have a right to protect your own interests and take a look at what measures the other Member States are using — by way of VAT and other such measures — to protect their own growers against competition from other Member States.
Men det er en periode, der står hr. Habsburg nærmere end mig, og han har utvivlsomt ikke tænkt på den, da han fore lagde forslaget til beslutning.
There is quite a lot to be investigated here, and I should like to ask the Commission to draw up a list to see what the situation is in other Member States.
Dette forslag til beslutning forsøger at foregribe en udvikling, som EF bør holde sig fra.
Let me repeat — I am against protectionist measures on the part of Member States and it is up to the Commission to do whatever it can to get rid of them.
For at sige det kort, fru formand, hr. Habsburgs beslutningsforslag er metodisk set ubrugeligt og moralsk forkasteligt.
That is something we said in the Plumb Resolution.
Til dem, som beskæftiger sig med politisk samarbejde, vil jeg. gerne sige: Vi opfordrede i september 1979 udenrigsministrene, som mødtes i politisk samarbejde, til at fremlægge en betænkning for Parlamentet om de fremskridt, som er sket i bekæmpelsen af terrorismen, i særdeleshed vedrørende etablering af et europæisk retsområde.
The essential element is that the Dutch Government, acting under pressure and at the behest of the Member States, entered into negotiations with Dutch horticulturists and with Gasunie, the outcome of which was an agreement to increase gas prices quicker than had originally been planned to bring the price of gas up to the level of oil.
Dette har imidlertid endnu ikke fundet sted, og vi har endnu ikke fået betænkningen. ningen.
In the light of that, it is an astonishing suggestion that the Dutch Government is endeavouring to distort the competitive situation so as to improve the position of Dutch horticulturists.
Eller anerkender han, at mennesker, som lever i et demokrati og i et frit samfund, virkelig er nødt til at overholde loven, herunder også strafferettens bestemmelser, som forbyder drab, terrorisering af uskyldige ofre og voldshandlinger? Jeg mener, at dette bør uddybes nærmere.
Quite clearly, the Dutch Government has acceded to the request made by the Member States and by the Commission.
Jeg vil minde hr. Van Minnen om, at en analyse af årsagerne til terrorisme virkelig ikke fjerner selve terrorismen, ej heller bidrager den, hvad vi kun ved alt for godt, til at stoppe terrorismen. Man kan blive ved med at analysere årsagerne til forbrydelser.
At a time when the Commission is still studying the matter and when the Dutch Government has submitted its proposals for the Commission's scrutiny, this House is already engaging in a debate on those proposals and is already sitting in judgment on the acceptability of those proposals.
Det har man gjort lige siden Kajn og Abel, men forbrydelserne fortsætter — brodermord, folkedrab, mord og selvmord.
That is the remarkable thing as far as I am concerned — at a time when a detailed study is still in progress that we should be debating the matter on the strength of a motion for a resolution.
Analyse alene er ikke tilstrækkeligt. ligt.
It seems to me that if this House decides to deal with the matter in this manner, it is in effect taking a very one-sided view.
Som punkt 5 er det i forbindelse med menneskerettigheder værd at minde om en dom, afsagt i Canada i 1979, at terrorhandlinger er en forbrydelse mod menneskeheden og et angreb på menneskerettighederne og de fundamentale frihedsrettigheder.
The fact is that gas prices must be increased by 40% by 1982 and that the government is attempting by way of energysaving measures alone to protect the position of the 70 000 people who are employed in this sector, to give them some chance in the future.
De parlamentsmedlemmer, som er bekymrede for menneskerettighederne, burde derfor tage alle forholdsregler for at stoppe den form for terrorisme, som finder sted i medlemsstaterne.
The idea of the European Parliament telling the Commission that it must fulfil its obligations under the Treaty of Rome is, to my mind, totally superfluous, because that surely goes without saying.
Formanden. — Gruppen af kommunister og beslægtede har ordet.
It seems to me — and this follows on from what I was saying just now — that the Member States of the European Community are steering a wrong course if they enter into negotiations with each other in this way, as was the case with the price proposals in the Council.
Jeg vil også gerne tilføje, fru formand, at vi i de seneste år har set, hvordan lande og i særdeleshed medlemsstater i Fællesskabet ikke længere er i stand til at løse problemerne i forbindelse med terrorisme tværs over grænserne.
On the one hand, the British are accusing the Dutch of adopting unfair measures favouring Dutch producers, but on the other the United Kingdom is prepared to block all progress to ensure that the clawback is applied to their percentage.
D'Angelosante. — (IT) Fru formand, ærede kolleger, de italienske kommunister og beslægtede bekræfter den holdning, de tidligere har indtaget, og giver i alt væsentligt deres tilslutning til det dokument, vi her
It is also essential for the blocking measures I mentioned just now in the Council to be lifted so that the decisions we took earlier can be implemented.
beskæftiger os med. Vor gruppe går ind for den ønskede ratifikation af de to aftaler, det drejer sig om i dette dokument, nemlig den konvention, der er udarbejdet i Europarådet, og protokollen fra Dublin, hvori de berørte lande har påtaget sig den forpligtelse, at den stat, der bliver anmodet om det, skal udlevere folk, der er anklaget for terroristforbrydelser, til et andet land, der har undertegnet aftalen, og i hvilket forbrydelsen er blevet begået, eller, hvis den ikke efter anmodning vil udlevere de anklagede, selv føre retssag mod de anklagede.
First of all, there is the motion for a resolution on distortion of competition in horticultural markets which has been discussed by Mr Welsh and others. The guiding principle of the European Economic Community is of course that free trade under the same competitive conditions should allow the people of Europe to enjoy the advantages which have been seen to arise from a free economy.
Kappos. — (GR) Fru formand, det kommunistiske og især det græske kommunistpartis stilling til terrorisme og voldshandlinger er velkendt.
Mr von Wogau. — (DE) Madam President, ladies and gentlemen, I should like to give my wholehearted support to the motion for a resolution, and here I am speaking on behalf of myself and Mr Bocklet, Mr Pöttering and Mr van Aerssen, all of whom have told me that the same problems exist in their constituencies.
Vi er dog fuldstændigt overbevist om, at terrorismen ikke kan bekæmpes ved at begrænse ' befolkningernes rettigheder og friheder, som det foreslås i forslaget til beslutning.
As a result of the rise in the cost of energy, and not least because of competitive distortions, the situation in the horticultural sector is indeed precarious.
Det er umuligt, først og fremmest fordi terrorismen organiseres af imperialistiske bastioner, af efterretningstjenester og reaktionære og fascistiske organisationer, som slutter forbund med statsmaskineriet for at undergrave den fremskridtsvenlige folkebevægelse og arbejdernes kamp.
For instance, a market gardener in the Lake Constance area has to pay three times as much as his counterpart in the Netherlands for the calorific equivalent of a litre of heating oil. Geographical advantages are only partly to blame for this situation; the main culprit is unfair subsidies, and under the terms of the Treaty of Rome, such subsidies have to be abolished.
Her er vi ved problemets kerne, kære kollega van Minnen, og det er det, vi skal diskutere.
Horticulturists in the Federal Republic of Germany suffer a further disadvantage in that variety of costsaving pesticides are banned in Germany but not in the Netherlands.
Det er det, det såkaldte europæiske juridiske område består i, og det er svært at se — jeg kan i hvert fald ikke — hvordan man med rimelighed skal kunne sætte den gamle holdning op imod det, den, hvor det hedder sig, at man ikke kan udlevere folk, når det kræves på grund af politiske forbrydelser.
That too is incongruous, and such incongruities should be done away with in the future in the European Community. In this case, people's livelihoods are in jeopardy, and in the regions affected, it is doubtful whether the younger generation will be prepared to carry on with such businesses in the future.
Afsløringerne i går i forbindelse med loge P2 i Italien er karakteristiske i denne forbindelse.
A further point is that a concentration of horticultural holdings in just a few regions would not be in the interests of the consumer.
Også i Grækenland er ophavsmændene til egentlige terroristhandlinger stadig på fri fod.
Housewives undoubtedly have a vested interest in being able to buy fresh vegetables in the area in which they are produced.
Vi siger faktisk i Grækenland, at de er ukendte, fordi de er velkendte af den efter retningstjeneste, der skal pågribe· dem.
For this reason, we shall be supporting Mr Welsh's motion for a resolution.
For det andet vil forslagene i forslaget til beslutning resultere i en styrkelse af statsterrorismen, og i at politisk virksomhed underlægges domsmyndigheden i straffesager.
We might just about accept that it can take time — and, for the rest, far too little is being done to eliminate the special advantages which certain countries traditionally enjoy — but aid by means of cheap gas for heating in horticultural holdings is not exactly a new development, while the development of common competitive conditions should have been underway for a long time now.
Den lov, der er gennemført i Grækenland om dette spørgsmål, og som i øvrigt svarer til den tyske lov, indeholder netop bestemmelser om en sådan kriminalisering.
For this reason, this is a real blow to the Community ideal and the development of the Community.
Det er ifølge loven tilladt at anholde uskyldige uden angivelse af nærmere grunde, at idømme dem strenge straffe, at lade dem leve under utålelige forhold og uden at anvende bestemmelsen om, at de kan løslades efter afsoning af2/i af deres straf.
This Dutch aid to horticulture is also reprehensible since it affects the production factor which has been by far the most serious and has been the source of by far the greatest difficulties for horticulture in recent years, i.e. energy.
Der er for øjeblikket i Grækenland fire personer, der er arresteret og dømt for terrorisme, og som i mere end 40 dage har sultestrejket, netop fordi de er berøvet disse rettigheder.
Thus, the subsidy arrangement, which, as the Dutch government itself has admitted, is discriminating — in fact it has announced its intention to call a halt to it — has already caused serious damage to other producers in the Community.
Vi mener naturligvis, at det fra første færd er en klar betingelse for denne holdning, at det er veldefineret, hvad man forstår ved terrorisme. Dette begreb må nemlig ikke være så bredt, at det inkluderer under trykte folks retfærdige kamp for national frigørelse. Lige så nødvendigt er det, at man i kampen mod terrorismen respekterer retslige garantier og ikke idømmer terroristiske straffe eller anvender afsoningsmåder, som går straffene særlig strenge eller ydmygende. gende.
It must be entirely abolished and Parliament should declare itself to be in favour of this abolition by voting in favour of the motion for a reso lution.
Vi har altid straks efter betalt for såkaldt humanitære handlinger.
President. — I call the European Democratic Group.
For det tredie går denne beslutning, således som det allerede kom frem ved den mundtlige forelæggelse af beslutningen, hvor de nordirske og palæstinensiske frihedskæmpere blev nævnt, i virkeligheden i samme retning som præsident Reagans erklæring om kampen mod terrorismen, og formålet er at ramme den nationale frihedsbevægelse.
Mr Provan. — My Group will support the resolution initiated by the Committee on Agriculture, and I am glad to say that it was initiated in Edinburgh.
Vi stemmer derfor imod for slaget til beslutning, fru formand, og vi fastholder, at der for effektivt at bekæmpe terrorismen, skal gøres en større indsats for at demokratisere statssystemet, for at standse fremmede efterretningstjenesteres virksomhed i medlemsstaterne og for at udvikle befolkningernes demokratiske rettigheder.
We should like to see a speedy implementation of the price decisions that have been taken in the Council of Ministers, but the loss in trade in sheepmeat, running at 17% between the UK and the rest of the Community, is causing severe problems for free move ment and fair competition in Community trade.
Vi kan ikke acceptere massakrer, blot fordi det er nødvendigt at standse terrorismen.
I hope that the passing of this resulution will allow the management committee of the Commission to take the interim measures that are necessary to remedy the situation.
Vi kan ikke acceptere vilde diktaturer, blot fordi de forfølger terrorismen. Vi ønsker at bekæmpe terrorismen med vor civilisation, og samtidig må vi vise os i stand til at vinde dem tilbage, som har gjort sig skyldige i disse forbrydelser.
Goodwill has been shown in the Council of Ministers.
Fotilas. — (GR) Fru formand, jeg må erkende, at jeg er fuldstændig uenig med lady Elles, når hun siger, at en' undersøgelse ikke er nogen hjælp i kampen mod terrorismen.
Mr Brøndlund Nielsen. — (DA) Madam President, I should like, on behalf of my Group, to make a few remarks on the two motions for resolutions before us.
Det er ved en undersøgelse vi får kendskab til årsagerne til terrorismen. Det er ved denne, vi får de retningslinjer, hvorefter den skal bekæmpes.
However, I should also like to make a few remarks on behalf of my Group regarding the motion for a resolution tabled by the Committee on Agriculture.
mændene til resolutionen mener, i dag er blevet til forkæmpere for sikkerhed og fred.
effect that it is possible to table literally hundreds of resolutions highlighting differentials in energy prices throughout the Community.