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Men man kan vist ikke sige, at debatten vakte særlig stor interesse hos medlemmerne, skønt der måske lige i dette øjeblik er flere til stede i salen, end der har været på noget andet tidspunkt under debatten.
However, it cannot be said, I think, that the debate has attracted a very great degree of interest among parliamentarians, though there are perhaps more people in the Chamber at the moment than at any previous time in the debate.
Og mange af de personer, som har holdt tale, og som jeg skal forsøge at give et svar, befinder sig jo nu helt klart et andet sted, hvilket medfører, at det faktisk er vanskeligt at være så engageret, som man gerne vil.
And many of the people who made speeches, to which I am about to try to reply, are quite clearly elsewhere, which does make it hard to be as enthusiastic as one would like to be.
Måske spiller vi indbyrdes Pirandellos berømte komedie »Rollernes spil«?
Are we perhaps playing among ourselves Pirandello's famous comedy 'The Rules of the Game'?
Så må vi hver for sig spille vor rolle uden at gøre os illusioner! Men eftersom jeg ikke tror, det er tilfældet, og eftersom jeg mener, at når indflydelsesrige ministre kommer og taler til os om opsving i kulturpolitikken og opsving i Fællesskabets politik, må vi tro på dem, vil jeg også håbe, at denne vor aktion må kunne bidrage til at sprede de tåger, der med topmødet i London også har lagt sig over vore spinkle håb om en uddannelsesaktion og en kulturel aktion.
Then let each one of us play his part without deceiving himself: But, just as I do not believe this; so also I think that we should believe ministers in authority when they come to speak to us of the revival of cultural and Community policy, and I hope that our initiative may contribute towards the dissipation of the fog which, with the London Summit, has descended even on our own timid hopes for educational and cultural action.
Langes. — (DE) Hr. formand, som afslutning på debatten om budgetforslaget for 1982 er det ganske vist endnu ikke muligt at fremsætte en konklusion, men det kan i det mindste slås fast, at Parlamentet gennem en forhøjelse af bevillingerne med ca. 350 mio ERE som foreslået af budgetudvalget forsøger at udstyre de nye former for politik, som vi ønsker accentueret i Europa, med de dertil nødvendige finansielle midler.
Mr Langes. — (DE) Mr President, although it is not possible to summarize the situation at the end of the debate on the 1982 budget, it can at least be said that Parliament is trying to equip the new policies on which we wish to place the emphasis in Europe with appropriate finances by increasing resources by some 350m EUA, as decided by the Committee on Budgets.
Jeg mener derfor, at vi ved afstem ningen bør samle det krævede absolutte flertal på 218 stemmer, således at vi kan få påbegyndt denne politik.
I therefore believe that the required absolute majority of 218 votes should be mustered when it comes to the vote, so that a start can be made on these policies.
Jeg tror, jeg vil begynde med hr. Langes og sige, at jeg har gjort det ganske klart uden for dette Parlament, og jeg vil også meget gerne gøre det klart inden for dette Parlament, at jeg mener, at det er overordentlig vigtigt, at der etableres en transportinfrastrukturpolitik, og at jeg finder det ønskeligt, at en transportinfrastrukturpolitik kendetegnes ved sådanne projekter, som han har omtalt.
Perhaps, I will start with Mr Langes and say that I have made it quite clear outside this House, but I am delighted to make it clear within this House as well, that I think it is extremely important that there should be a transport infrastructure policy and that I think it is desirable that a transport infrastructure policy should be characterized by projects of the sort he has mentioned.
Det er en af Fælles skabets store mangler, at vi ikke har nogen transportinfrastrukturpolitik, navnlig i betragtning af, at transporten omtaltes sideløbende med landbruget i den oprindelige traktat.
It is a great lack in the Community that we don't have a transport infrastructure policy, especially when one considers that transport was mentioned alongside agriculture in the original Treaty.
I Kommissionen, og jeg person ligt, ser vi meget positivt på udviklingen af en sådan politik.
So we in the Commission, and I personally certainly, are very much in favour of the development of such a policy.
Men det synspunkt, jeg fremførte i min oprindelige tale, var, at én ting er at lægge pres på Rådet for at få indført en sådan politik, og det vil vi natur ligvis fortsat gøre. Noget andet er at kunne bruge midler, så længe en sådan politik ikke findes.
But the point which I was making in my original speech was that it is one thing to press the Council, which we will certainly continue to do, to introduce such a policy; it is another to be able to spend money in the absence of such a policy.
Det er nu op til Parlamentet at træffe afgørelse herom.
Now it is for Parliament to decide that.
Vedrørende det generelle princip som hr. Langes har formuleret, er han og jeg her helt enige.
On the overall principle that Mr Langes has enunciated, clearly he and I are absolutely at one.
Ganske vist drejer det sig her til dels om meget små skridt i den rigtige retning.
Of course, all that is really being done in some cases is to take very small steps in the right direction.
Jeg vil f.eks. minde om en lille post, som imidlertid efter vor opfattelse er af stor betydning, nemlig opførelsen af 10 mio ERE til transport.
An example here is a small but, I feel, extremely important item, the entry of 10m EUA for the transport sector.
Disse penge skal ikke bruges til at bygge normale veje eller autobaner; de skal derimod anvendes til formål, som forbinder Europa over grænserne med andre lande, eller som bringer vore lande i Det europæiske Fællesskab tættere sammen.
This is not intended for the construction of ordinary roads or motorways, but for things which will create transfrontier links between Europe and other coun tries or bring the countries in the European Community closer together.
Hr. Tugendhat, vi ser disse 10 mio ERE som en begyndelse til bygningen af en tunnel mellem England
Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of my Group I would ask you to approve these measures, which we of the Committee on Budgets have included in the 350m
Denne debat har omfattet en række gennemgående temaer.
Well now, there have been a number of themes running through the debate.
Vi har hørt en del om omstrukturering af budgettet; vi har hørt om behovet for bedre balance i budgettet; vi har fra forskellige grupper af Parlamentet hørt temmelig meget om behovet for, at Fællesskabet yder såvel finansielle som andre midler til sikring af en fortsat sund udvikling; vi har hørt om behovet for, at realitetsproblemer går forud for procedureproblemer.
We have heard a certain amount about the restructuring of the budget; we have heard about the need for a better budget balance; we have heard quite a lot from various quarters of the House about the need for the Community to be given the means, both financial and other, to permit a further healthy development; we have heard about the need for problems of substance to take precedence over problems of procedure.
Og som altid i disse debatter, har vi naturligvis hørt overordentlig meget om, at
And, of course, and this is always the case in these debates, we have heard a great deal about the need for the institutions to act in a manner that is consistent with their publicly stated objectives.
Hr. Ansquer, hr. Arndt, hr. Balfour, hr. Gautier, hr. Notenboom og fru Scrivener er alle på forskellig måde kommet ind på disse emner.
In varying ways Mr Ansquer, Mr Arndt, Mr Balfour, Mr Gautier, Mr Notenboom and Mrs Srivener have all touched on these points.
Jeg kan umuligt omtale alle de punkter, der blev fremført, uden at gøre mit indlæg lige så langt som i formiddags, så jeg skal forsøge at udvælge de punkter, der måske er af særlig interesse.
Now without making a speech as long as the one this morning, it would be impossible for me to deal with all the points which were raised, so I will seek to take some which are perhaps of particular importance.
Det glædede mig meget at høre tilfredshed fra specielt hr. Langes, hr. Notenboom og hr. van Minnen over de — omend utilstrækkelige — frem skridt, der er sket med hensyn til sociale foranstaltninger for stålsektoren.
I was very gratified by the welcome given, in particular by Mr Langes, Mr Notenboom and Mr van Minnen, to the progress, albeit inadequate, that has been made over the social measures for the steel sector.
Det er vigtigt, at der nu opføres bevillinger på budgettet, og Kommissionen hilser det velkommen. Vi vil naturligvis alle — alle tre institutioner — komme til at stå over for meget vanskelige problemer, og vi har faktisk allerede arbejdet på dem, fordi det ligger os meget på sinde at se disse midler anvendt, og fordi det ligger os meget på sinde at kunne løse problemerne inden for stål industrien.
It is important that there should now be an inscription in the budget, and the Commission welcomes that very much.
Hr. Notenboom havde et specifikt spørgsmål til Kommissionen om, hvorledes udsigterne er for bevillinger nu for 1981.
Now Mr Notenboom asked a specific question when he asked the Commission what the outlook for expenditure now is for 1981.
Vi er meget nær udgangen af 1981, og jeg burde kunne give ham meget klare tal.
We are very near the end of 1981 and I ought to be able to give him a very clear figure, but, as he knows, it is slightly more complicated than that.
Men som hr. Notenboom ved, er det en smule mere kompliceret end som så, for ganske vist ved vi, hvilke forskud der allerede er ydet medlemsstaterne.
We certainly know what advances have already been made to Member States.
Vi har også foretaget den normale afregning af konti for 1974 og 1975, og det har betydet, at vi har måttet lægge yderligere ca. 160 mio ECU til, og så har vi de resterende 400-450 mio på 1981-budgettet.
We also have been conducting the normal clearing of accounts for 1974 and 1975, which has meant that some 160 million ECU has had to be added, and then we have the 400-450 million remaining in the 1981 budget.
Det vil sige, at omkring 97 % af de samlede EÜGFL-garanti-bevillinger vil blive opbrugt.
That means that some 97% of total EAGGF Guarantee credits will be used up.
Men siunailet kan — og vil næsten med sikkerhed — vise sig at være temmelig meget større, for vi har gjort den erfaring, at der som regel foreligger ansøgninger om exceptionelle forskud, og der opstår som regel problemer omkring nedskrivning af lagre, og temmelig ofte kan der fore komme overførsel af midler fra medansvarsafgiften, så jeg kan ikke give det ærede medlem et absolut endeligt tal.
But in fact the final figure may turn out — almost certainly will turn out — to be rather larger than that, because our experience is that there is usually a request for exceptional advances and there is usually some problem over the depreciation of stocks and there is quite often a possible carry-over of coresponsibility levy resources, so I cannot give him an absolutely final figure — that will have to wait until we are into 1982.
Men det ser ud til, at EUGFL-garantifonden vil udgøre mindst 97 % af det samlede beløb.
But it looks as if the EAGGF Guarantee expenditure will be at least 97% of the total figure.
En af de forhandlinger, vi har arbejdet med, er den forhandling, der fandt sted om et forslag til beslutning stillet af fru Hoff den 11. juli 1980.
Amongst the debates we have been looking up was the debate on a motion for a resolution tabled by Mrs Hoff on 11 July 1980.
Jeg husker, at Parlamentet dengang indtog det standpunkt, at det ville være nødvendigt med et separat juridisk grundlag ved anvendelse af disse midler.
At that time, I recall, Parliament took the view that a separate legal basis would be necessary for the spending of this money.
Jeg tror, vi alle må se meget nøje på de nuværende forhold, dagen efter at Rådet har truffet afgørelsen — og der er måske en vis ironi i, at det er en bestemt del af dette Parlament, der mere end andre presser på med hensyn til dette spørgsmål — men dagen efter, at Rådets afgørelse er faldet, glæder vi os over, at det faktisk er kommet os lidt imøde og Parlamentet lidt imøde.
Now I think all of us are going to have to look very carefully into the present situation, but certainly at this stage, the day after the Council has taken the decision — and there is perhaps a certain irony in the fact that the pressure in this matter comes from one particular quarter of the House rather than others — we rejoice in the fact that it has moved some way towards our position and towards Parliament's position.
Vi forsøger stadig at bygge videre på det, der er sket, for at sikre, at midlerne i 1981 — og 1982 — budgettet, som jeg håber, Parlamentet vil sørge for på torsdag, kan blive anvendt inden for stålindustrien, hvor der er så stort behov for dem, for — som sagt så mange gange før af mig selv og af mine kolleger — de sociale foranstaltninger inden for stålsektoren er en uundgåelig ledsagende omstændighed, en uundgåelig naturlig følge af den omstrukturering af stålindustrien, vi er i gang med nu.
We still seek to build on what has happened to ensure that money in the 1981 and 1982 budgets, which I hope Parliament will be providing on Thursday, can be put to use in the steel industry where it is badly needed.
Vi vil naturligvis gøre, hvad vi kan, for at der kan ske fremskridt så hurtigt som muligt.
As I have said many times before, and so have my colleagues, the social measures for steel are an absolutely essential concomitant, an absolutely essential corollary, of the restructuring of the steel industry in which we are currently engaged, and we will certainly press for progress to be as rapid as possible.
En række medlemmer rejste spørgsmålet om klassificering, og jeg må sige, at jeg har en vis sympati for hr. Price's synspunkt, som blev gentaget af hr. Fich og en række andre medlemmer, der sagde, at dette emne var meget vanskeligt at forstå, og at de ikke mente, at der fandtes mange, som ikke direkte har noget at gøre med budgettet, der kunne følge det.
A great many people have raised the matter of classification, and I must say I have some sympathy with the point made by Mr Price and repeated by Mr Fich and by a number of other Members, when they said that it was an extremely difficult subject to follow and that they didn't suppose that very many people who are not directly concerned with the budget had a grasp of it.
Hr. Fich syntes at mene, at 20 000 i Fællesskabets tjeneste havde forstået en del af det.
Mr Fich seemed to think there were 20 000 people in the Community's service who had a grasp of it.
Jeg må sige, at der ikke engang er ansat 20 000 ialt i Fællesskabets tjeneste.
Well I have to say that there aren't even 20 000 people in the Community's service altogether.
Tager man samtlige fællesskabsinstitutioner — Parlamentet, Rådet, Domstolen, Det økonomiske og sociale Udvalg og Kommissionen — ligger det samlede antal ansatte i Europas tjeneste stadig ca. 25 % herunder, og jeg tvivler på, at samtlige ansatte i Europas tjeneste forstår, hvad der menes med klassifikation.
If you take all the Community institutions — Parliament, the Council, the Court of Justice, the Economic and Social Committee, as well as the Commission — the total number of people in the service of Europe is still about 25% less than that, and I doubt whether all the people in the service of Europe understand the classification point either.
Det er bestemt meget indviklet, og jeg håber ikke, at sådanne spørgsmål vil blive en væsentlig kilde til budgetmæssige vanskeligheder.
It is certainly a very complicated one, and I hope that a matter of this sort will not become a major source of budgetary difficulty.
Vi følte os opmuntrede af talerne holdt af fru Scrivener og hr. Ansquer, som tilsyneladende havde omtrent samme holdning til kapitel 100 som jeg selv — principielt går vort synspunkt ud på, at bevillingerne under kapitel 100 bør have samme klassifikation, som den post, de er tilknyttet.
We were encouraged by the speeches of Mrs Scrivener and Mr Ansquer, who seemed to take a view very similar .to that which I had put forward concerning Chapter 100 — our view basically being that the money in Chapter 100 should be given the same classification as the line to which it is attached, although I realize there are those in Parliament who take a different view.
Jeg ved godt, at der er delte meninger herom i Parlamentet, men jeg fandt det opmuntrende, at en række medlemmer af Parlamentet syntes at have nogenlunde samme opfattelse som vi.
I was encouraged to find that there were a number of parliamentarians who seemed to take a view somewhat similar to ours.
Det er vor faste overbevisning, at det er væsentligt, at alle tre institutioner nu indleder forhandlinger om dette synspunkt,
Our strong belief is that it is important that all three institutions should now engage in talks on this point and that the will of one institution should not be allowed to triumph over the will of other institutions.
For så vidt angår EUGFL, vil jeg gerne først sige et par ord til hr. Lalor, som ikke er til stede, men som endnu engang antydede, at Kommissionen ønsker at angribe den fælles landbrugspolitik.
On EAGGF expenditure, I would first like to address a remark to Mr Lalor, who is not here but who once again talked as if the Commission sought to attack the common agricultural policy.
Jamen, intet ligger sandheden fjernere. Kommissionen anser den fælles landbrugspolitik for at være en af Fællesskabets grundpiller, og hele formålet med de projekter, Kommissionen er i gang med nu, og som den mener Fællesskabets øvrige institutioner er i gang med, er at forsøge at ajourføre og modernisere den fælles land
Really nothing could be further from the truth; the Commission regards the common agricultural policy as one of the foundations on which the Community is built, and the whole purpose of what the Commission is engaged in now, what it believes the other institutions of the Community are engaged in, is to try to update and modernize the CAP so that the principles on which it is based, which are as valid now as they were when they were first introduced, can be the more effectively applied.
Tugendhat periode præget af uenighed om dette spørgsmål.
Tugendhat but that it is a considerable achievement to have got as far as we have.
Jeg må sige, at vi mener, at Rådet har forsøgt at trække tiden ud i dette spørgsmål, at Rådet har haft tendens til at udsætte spørgsmålet fra den ene måned til den anden og fra det ene år til det andet.
Our view, I have to say, is that the Council has been playing for time on this matter, that there has been a tendency on the part of the Council to try to delay this matter from one month to the next and from one year to the next.
Det er af den allerstørste betydning, at der ikke bliver spildt mere tid, og at der omgående indledes forhandlinger med henblik på en løsning af dette spørgsmål, og hvor disse forhandlinger så fortsættes under det belgiske formandskab og afsluttes, inden næste budgetprocedure indledes.
Now, it is absolutely essential that there should be no further loss of time and that the search for a solution for this problem should begin immediately, be continued under the Belgian presidency and brought to a conclusion before the next budgetary procedure actually gets under way.
Hr. formand, jeg har forsøgt at kommentere nogle af de synspunkter, der er blevet fremsat.
Mr President, I have sought to cover some of the points which have been raised.
Jeg vil uden tvivl få lejlighed til at drøfte nogle af disse spørgsmål yderligere i budgetudvalget, hvor man vil komme tilbage til andre synspunkter, som er blevet fremsat. Men på det nuværende stadium af debatten tror jeg, det vil være bedre at lytte til formanden for Rådet og til ordføreren, hr. Spinelli, der, som skik er ved disse lejligheder, vil komme med det afsluttende indlæg i denne debat.
No doubt I will have a further opportunity to deal with some of these matters in the Committee on Budgets when people will be returning to other points that they have made, but at this stage I think it would be better for us now to listen to the President-in-Office of the Council and to the rapporteur, Mr Spinelli, who will, as is customary on these occasions, wind up the total debate.
I dette budget — 1981-budgettet — er der stadig problemet med fødevarehjælp til Polen. Jeg vil atter sige, at jeg synes, at vi i meget vid udstrækning er enige i dette spørgsmål.
In that budget too — the 1981 budget — there remains the problem of food aid to Poland.
Fællesskabet er, som nævnt af hr. Tugendhat, ved at levere 8 000 t oksekød til Polen, og da Kommissionen nu faktisk giver bemyndigelse til yderligere støtte til Polen, er formålet med Parlamentets initiativ til at foreslå denne ekstra hjælp efter min mening faktisk blevet opfyldt.
As Vice-President Tugendhat has reminded us, the Community is actually in the process of delivering 8 000 tonnes of beef to Poland, and it seems to me that since the Commission is now actually executing additional aid to Poland, the purpose of Parliament's initiative in suggesting that extra aid has, in fact, been met.
Der kan heller ikke være nogen tvivl om, at der kan handles, simpelthen fordi der nu faktisk bliver handlet.
There is also no doubt that action can be taken, simply from the fact that it is now being taken.
Jeg bør nævne, at Rådet ikke mente, at artikel 950 var den rette post til hjælpen, simpelthen fordi denne artikel er forbeholdt katastrofehjælp efter naturkatastrofer, og man kan vel dårlig kalde dette en naturkatastrofe.
The Council, I should explain, did not feel that Article 950 was the appropriate place for the aid, simply because that article is for emergency aid following natural disasters and this really could hardly be described as a natural disaster.
Det væsentligste er jo, at der ydes den ekstra hjælp, og det er jo netop, hvad der sker nu.
The most important thing, surely, is that the extra aid is provided, and that is, in fact, what is happening.
I lyset af de allerseneste begivenheder i det ulykkelige land, må vi nu tage den nuværende situation op til overvejelse og se, hvilken politik vi skal føre i fremtiden.
I think that, in view of very recent events in that unhappy country, we shall now want to take stock of the present position and see what our future policy should be.
Under alle omstændigheder er 1981 jo næsten randt ud, og vi bør komme tilbage til spørgsmålet næste år, når vi har dannet os et noget klarere billede.
In any event 1981 is very nearly over, and we should return to the question next year when the picture is clearer.
Jeg skal blot gentage, at Parlamentets ønske om at yde Polen speciel og ekstra hjælp er blevet ført ud i livet, og det er endnu et område, hvor vi er kommet hinanden nærmere.
I would only like to repeat that Parliament's desire to make a special and extra gesture of help for the Poles has materialized, and that is another area where we have come closer together.
Over for dem i forsamlingen, der er villige til at gå på kompromis, skal jeg kun gentage, hvad jeg sagde i formiddags.
To those amongst you who are ready to compromise, I would only repeat what I have said this morning.
Det af budgetudvalget anbefalede beløb stiller os enorme hindringer i vejen for at nå til et kompromis.
The amount recommended by the Committee on Budgets presents us with a formidable obstacle to compromise.
Et kompromis indebærer i følge selve dets natur bevægelser på begge sider.
Compromise by its very nature implies movement on both sides.
Jeg er for mit eget vedkommende naturligvis villig til at føre yderligere forhandlinger.
I for my part am certainly prepared to negotiate further.
Rådets accept af opførelsen af 62 mio ECU til sociale foranstaltninger inden for stålsektoren i 1981 er jo allerede et skridt i retning af at nå henimod et kompromis om 1982budgettet.
Indeed, the Council's agreement to the budgetary entry of 62m ECU for the steel social measures for 1981 is already a step towards finding a compromise on the 1982 budget.