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Jeg anser følgende fremgangsmåde for værd at over veje og vil gerne anbefale den til Kommissionen som led i forhandlingen.
Mr Seeler (S). — (DE) Madam President, ladies and gentlemen, it is not enough simply to go around lamenting about the monetary situation and all the adverse consequences that flow from it.
Det er nødvendigt at fastlægge en individuel øvre grænse for, hvor meget hvert enkelt debitorland i den tredje verden kan bebyrdes, og jeg ser en såden øvre grænse ved ca. 20 % af eksportindtægterne.
We must also try to get a clear picture of what has caused them and how we can get to grips with them.
Forpligtelser og fordringer, der overstiger det, kan i mine øjne som regel alligevel i længden ikke inddrives hos de fleste lande. Her skulle man, for ikke at bringe mange banker i fare gennem en afskrivning af disse fordringer, bane vejen for, at dis se kapitalfordringer omdannes til investeringer i den tredje verdens lande.
In our quest for ways and means of reforming the world monetary system that has got into such a tangle, we must first of all look towards the United States.
Det vil sige, at man skulle lade disse fordringer blive i den tredje verden, for dér at anvende midlerne til igen at give disse lande en øget økonomisk udvikling, en øget økonomisk kraft.
These enormous capital requirements on the part of the USA have, as has already been said, vastly exceeded the savings potential of the United States and have led to an enormous drain of capital from Europe, but above all from Japan.
En sådan omdannelse ville naturligvis også betyde, at udbytte ikke mere kan udføres for ikke igen at øge disse landes valutabalanceunderskud.
The lure to attract this capital was extremely high interest rates, with the result that the American currency is overvalued by comparison with European currencies.
En sådan ændring kunne føre til, at den tredje ver dens lande kom sig bedre og hurtigere og dermed også igen i større omfang, end det for øjeblikket er tilfældet, får del i verdenshandelen.
The German mark, the French franc, the English pound, the gulden and certainly the Danish krone are, each on its own, however, not in a position to stand up to this pressure.
En stimulering af verdenshandelen vil så også bidrage til at nedsætte arbejdsløsheden hos os, da efterspørgselen efter varer er enorm i disse lande.
That is why I would stress what has already been said, namely, that it is essential to strengthen the European Monetary System and to strengthen the ECU if Europe is to retain and further develop its economic independence.
Der ville med dette forslag ikke opstå noget tab for kreditorerne, da de jo beholder deres kapital.
In this contest with the economic superpower which is the USA, Denmark, my dear Mr Christensen, would be sunk without a trace.
Den ændres, omdannes blot. Penge kapital, finanskapital bliver til investeringskapital.
There is no other way it can be done!
Kun gennem et sådant ukonventionelt, så at sige radikalt skridt, lader det sig overhovedet gøre at af vikle den tredje verdens gæld, der hele tiden bliver værre med alle de negative virkninger for det internationale valutamarked og verdenshandelen.
These debts are mainly in the form of American dollars. The rising exchange rate and the rising interest rates of this latter currency are leading to ever-increasing demand.
Jeg anser det også for muligt, at de bidragydere — i det væsentlige OPEC-staterne — der i 70erne gennem dollar strømmen bidrog til, at det internationale kapital
The fact that the dollar is overvalued in this way is leading to an enormous increase in imports into the United States.
Næste element er, at dollarens totale dominans på finansmarkederne og dens udvikling, der ikke er til at forudse, medfører et usikkerhedens klima, der ikke er gunstigt for samhandelens forøgelse, genopsvinget i verden og for det internationale økonomiske system, hvis man overhovedet kan tale om et sådant på nuværende tidspunkt.
Mr Ortoli has said that this gave Third World countries a chance to earn dollars by exporting to the United States. He also said that the European Com munity owed part of its recovery to this factor of exports to the USA.
I denne forbindelse kan man ikke lade være med at foruroliges over udbredelsen af protektionistiske foranstaltninger i det land, der ønsker at fremstå som frihandelslandet over alle.
In saying this, however, he over looks the fact that this increase in exports was largely financed by the European capital market.
Og det er forståeligt nok.
In other
Derfor er det forståeligt nok, at der over for en sådan mangel på logik dukker protektionistiske foranstaltninger op.
Here also the ECU has a part to play in the longer term if it succeeds in taking the place of the US dollar, that is to say, if Third World debts can be val ued not only in dollars but also in ECUs.
Man kan ikke samtidig gøre sig til frihandelens fortaler og lade sin valuta følge en helt uregelret og umotiveret udvikling. ling.
That would lead to a fall in the demand for dollars and to a cut-
Sammenfattende bidrager alt til at foranledige med lemsstaterne til at gøre ECUen til Europas dollar, alt så til en international reservevaluta og til et betalingsmiddel, der nyder anerkendelse verden over.
debt should be convoked, to be attended by all debtor and creditor countries and all creditor banks with the assistance and guidance of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank.
meget bedre for os at koncentrere os om, hvad vi kan gøre for igen at få vækst i Europa i stedet for at sætte os tilbage, vride hænder og forvente, at amerikanerne gør det for os.
I do not believe that these problems can be solved in the foreseeable future by using the classical methods that have been used up to now.
Russerne optager lån i ECU.
(Applause from the left)
Jeg lyttede også med stor interesse til den fremragende ordfører for det europæiske folkeparti, og hans bemærkninger fik mig til at tænke på duetten La ci darem la mano i begyndelsen af 2. akt af Don Giovanni.
I do not think either that any worthwhile results can be expected from the classical method of transferring debts, which does no more than increase the total amount of debt by piling up on it interest payments that cannot be met.
Der skal virkelig en meget kold og meget sky jomfru til for at modstå hr. von Wogaus lokketoner.
For the Third World, the only result of these tactics is to widen the net of its obligations and eventually make it even more dependent on its creditors.
Hvis han endnu ikke har haft held hos den britiske premierminister, vil den tyske forbundsbanks »Iron Maiden « måske snart overgive sig til hans charme !
They do not stimulate world trade and neither do they make any contribution to combating unemployment in Europe's industrialized countries.
Regeringerne modsatte sig papirpengenes udbredelse ; senere modsatte de sig udbredelsen af sådanne pengerepræsentativer som checks og deslige. I dag er der nogle, der er modstandere af ECUen.
Mr Herman (PPE). — (FR) Madam President, ladies and gentlemen, in February 1984 Parliament made some quite concrete and detailed proposals to the Commission for further development of the EMS.
Men de bliver slået. Det er givet, og det er måske det eneste optimistiske moment, som man kan udlede af alt dette : når markederne er i overensstemmelse med behovene, så vil de altid i sidste ende gå af med sejren i forhold til regeringernes opfattelse.
At the time, while not approving all of these proposals, the Commission showed great caution — some people actually called it timidity — in approving the underlying principle and general direction of what we had put forward.
Jeg er faktisk helt enig i alt det, han sagde. Vi har haft Hermanbetænkningen, Rhys Williams-betænkningen, Hopper-betænkningen og den anden Her man-betænkning.
Seven months have elapsed since then and all the arguments in favour of developing the system have become stronger in the intervening period.
Alle ønsker det, alle går det under øjnene, så hvorfor har vi ikke fået det?
To begin with, inflation has come down everywhere, as has the spread between inflation rates.
Jeg ved det ikke. Jeg beder hr. O'Keeffe undskylde, at jeg ikke var her, da han svarede på spørgsmålet.
As you yourself were recognizing just now, Mr Commissioner, there has also been an improvement in terms of convergence of economic policies.
Men efter hvad jeg fik at vide, ved han det heller ikke. Ingen ved, hvorfor det er umuligt for Rådet og medlemsstaterne at gå videre til den økonomiske og monetære union.
The spectacular explosion in the private use of the ECU is continuing apace, showing the way forward and demonstrating that this currency definitely meets a real need perceived as such by operators on the economic scene.
Det er helt rigtigt, at mit land desværre langt fra har en ulastelig fortid i denne henseende.
There is one possibility which I think should be con sidered and which I should like to recommend to the Commission in this debate.
I strid med al logik er der en række lande, der frem deles modsætter sig udbygningen af det europæiske monetære system.
As far as I can see, it will generally be impossible in any case in the longer term to recover from most countries any obligations and claims that go beyond this figure.
De argumenter, den frygt eller de indvendinger, som de har givet udtryk for, modsiges af kendsgerningerne.
If these assets are written off, many banks will be put in a very dangerous situation.
Jeg spørger: hvad venter Kom missionen på for at fortsætte den europæiske mone tære opbygning?
In order to avoid this, steps should be taken to enable these capital assets to be converted into investments in the Third World countries.
Hvilke mere gunstige konjunkturer venter man på for at få sat gang i tingene? Eller skal man måske slå sig til tåls med at konstatere, at det er med den monetære nationalisme som med tobakken? ken?
That means that people holding these assets in Third World countries should be persuaded to use them in these countries in order to further their economic develop ment and give them more economic muscle.
Alle ved, at det er skadeligt at ryge, men alle ryger støt videre !
In this connection, one cannot fail to be disturbed by the proliferation of protectionist measures in the country which holds itself out as the champion of free trade.
(Bifald fra midten og fra venstre)
There is nothing surprising about this.
Welsh (ED). — (EN) Fru formand, før jeg siger det, det var min mening at sige, vil jeg gerne komme med en bemærkning til min gode ven, hr. Seeler. Vi kan sagtens angribe amerikanerne for at øge deres under skud gennem forsvarsudgifter.
American exporters have seen a twofold increase in their prices to customers abroad for no logical reason and American importers have seen European prices halved for purely monetary reasons which have nothing to do with true parities.
Jeg mener, vi også burde tænke på, at det i en vis grad skyldes den amerikanske skatteyders gavmildhed, at det har været muligt for os at have de friheder, vi har i Vesteuropa, og at tale her på den måde, vi gør.
It was therefore only to be expected that such illogicality would attract a spontaneous reaction in the form of protectionist measures.
Jeg er ikke alt for sikker på, at jeg ønsker at se de amerikanske forsvarsudgifter nedskåret så meget.
It is simply not possible to set oneself up as the proponent of free trade and at the same time allow one's currency to follow a completely erratic and unjustified course.
Jeg vil gerne give et par beskedne råd til min regering, som jeg er sikker på vil lytte som sædvanlig, og sige, at vort problem måske, er, at vor kritik udelukkende er rettet mod selve valutakursmekanismen.
A revamping of this kind could lead to a better and quicker recovery on the part of Third World countries and thus also to their taking a more effective part in world trade than is presently the case.
Vi synes endnu ikke helt at have forstået, at valutakursmekanismen altid har skullet være den første fase af en meget større proces.
A revitalization of world trade would also help to reduce unemployment in our countries, because the demand for goods in these countries is enormous.
Jeg har også mistanke om, at der måske sidder nogle sære embedsmænd i centralbankerne og i medlemsstater nes finansministerier, der har en atavistisk tro på, at skridt til en økonomisk og monetær union på en eller anden måde kunne skade deres evne til at kontrollere deres nationale økonomier.
Only through such an unconventional or, if you like, radical step can any solution be found to the ever-worsening indebtedness of the Third World, with all its adverse consequences for the world currency market and world trade.
Jeg tror ikke, at der er nogen, der kontrollerer nogens nationale økonomier for øjeblikket, og jeg tror, at ideen om, at vi gør det, er modbevist af begivenhederne. Hvis det er årsagen til, at vi ikke kan gøre fremskridt, er det på høje tid, at de ansvarlige ministre — finansministrene — tvang sig selv til at blive enige.
I think that it should also be possible to involve in this debt-restructuring the moneylenders — mainly the OPEC States — who, by releasing the flood of dollars in the seventies, helped to make the world capital market sufficiently fluid to make it possible to pursue a lending policy without any great risk.
Welsh hans fuldt ud, og jeg vil gerne tilføje et par stykker.
Even the Japanese, the Austrians and the Hongkong Chinese recognize the ECU today.
Jeg vil gentage dem, da de er værd at gentage.
The Russians are raising loans in ECUs.
Lad os for det første få Det forenede Kongeriges regering til at tilslutte sig valutakursmekanismen med en klar forpligtelse for dets partnere til hurtigt at gå vide re til næste fase at EMS.
It really is incredible that some European central banks still do not believe in the ECU when it is being used on an ever increasing scale throughout the world!
Alle er enige om, at den høje dollarkurs og den stigende rente for en stor del er resultat af De forenede Staters enorme statsunderskud, som er gået fra 1 % af bruttonationalproduktet i 1973 til 7% i 1983.
History of course shows — and, alas, it is repeating itself — that major monetary changes have always been achieved in the face of opposition by govern ments.
Lad sluttelig alle medlemsstater forpligte sig til at arbejde nært sammen om styringen af et fælles europæisk monetært grundlag, så parallelvalutaen, ECUen, kan sikres en stabil og optimistisk fremtid.
All of those resolutions have expressed the view of Parliament — which everybody agrees with — that the quicker we can move to an integrated finan cial market in Europe the better it will be for everyone and the sooner we may be able to relaunch the Com munity's economic prosperity in the way we would all wish.
Derfor burde vi i stedet for at beundre denne politk træffe endnu større foranstaltninger imod De forene de Staters politik.
Nobody knows why it is impossible for the Council and the Member States to proceed to economic and monetary union.
Lad os håbe, at det italienske for mandskab vil vise politisk vilje og ærligt og redeligt vil forelægge en sådan pakke i begyndelsen af sin formandskabsperiode.
What more favourable circumstances have to prevail before it gets on with the job? Or do we have to get used to the idea that what is true of tobacco is also true of monetary nationalism?
Og så kan vi, for endnu en gang at referere til min gamle ven Don Giovanni, alle synge champagnearien og danse, mens vi holder hinanden i hånden.
Everyone knows that smoking is harmful, but every one is still addicted and goes on smoking!
(Bifald)
(Applause from the Centre and Left)
Fredsbevægelserne, som drager NATOs og De forenede Staters oprustningspolitik samt programmerne for opstilling af Cruise- og Pershingraketter og produktion af MX-raketter i tvivl, er de eneste kræfter, som afdækker de dybere årsager bag denne udvikling og De forenede Staters politik.
I think we ought to bear in mind also that it is in some measure due to the generosity of the American taxpayer that we are enabled to enjoy the freedoms we do in Western Europe and to talk in this place in the way we do. I am not too sure that I want to see American defence-spending cut back by that much.
Af hr. Ortolis udtalelser fremgår det, at EF ikke kan stille noget op imod De forenede Stater, hvilket også er fremgået tidligere, både på konferencen i Williamsburg og af erklæringer fra topledere i Vesteuropa, som ikke er blevet fulgt op.
Now it is quite true that my own country, regrettably, has a far from faultless record in this respect. I should like to offer some humble advice to my own govern ment, who I am sure will be listening as usual, and say that perhaps our problem is that our criticisms are all directed at the exchange-rate mechanism itself.
Men hvad vi gerne vil frem hæve i forbindelse med vort eget land er, at en udvikling i retning af en styrkelse af det europæiske valuta samarbejde eller en inddragelse af drachmen i valuta samarbejdet — hvilket jeg antager, fru Veils spørgsmål hentyder til — vil være skadeligt for vort land.
We do not seem yet to have quite grasped the point that the exchange-rate mechanism was always intended to be the first stage of a much larger process. Although, intellectually, I would share many of the criticisms of the ERM, I do not think — and I do not think that anybody here would seriously suggest — that that is a reason for junking Economic and Monetary Union altogether.
For mens alle EF-landene har problemer med kapitalflugt til USA, lider Grækenland foruden under dette problem, i særlig høj grad under dollarens stigning på grund af sin store udenlandsgæld, ligesom det har store problemer med kapitalflugt til EFs med-
I also suspect that there may be those odd officials sitting in the central banks and in the treasuries of the Member States who have an atavistic belief that somehow or other means to Economic and Monetary Union might prejudice their ability to con trol their own national economies.
For vi må ikke glemme, at i De forenede Stater blev denne politk med store statsunderskud og enorme militærudgifter så sent som i går fordømt af Mondale, dvs. af en fremtrædende amerikaner, som naturligvis ikke udtrykker progressive, radikale eller kommunistiske synspunkter.
I would also say to him and to Mr Bonaccini, whose very trenchant remarks I listened to with great interest, that it is a little difficult for us, when we see the American economy growing at somewhere between 4% and 6% a year, creating jobs and sustain ing growth, to say that they have got it all wrong.
Men her hører vi for manden for Kommissionen og, desværre, en hel ræk ke parlamentsmedlemmer støtte og forsvare denne politik, som er blevet fordømt selv i De forenede Stater.
I think we should do a lot better to concentrate on what we can do to restore growth in Europe rather than sit back, wring our hands and expect the Americans to do it for us.
Og hr. Ortoli må fra de appeller, Kom missionen har udsendt angående den beskyttelsespolitik, som vort land fører eller har ført indtil nu, være fuldstændig klar over, at dette problem eksisterer, uagtet hr. Welshs meninger.
And Mr Ortoli knows full well from the lawsuits the Commission has brought in connection with the pro tective policy which the government of our country implements, or was implementing up until now, that this is a problem, despite what Mr Welsh says.
Dog repræsenterer Fællesskabet et marked med 275 mio forbrugere, større end De forende Staters med 235 mio og Japans med 120 mio.
Alavanos market of 275 million consumers, larger than those of the United States at 235 million and Japan at 120 million. lion.
Til sidst vil jeg gerne i forbindelse med Grækenland fremhæve, at inddragelsen i det europæiske valutasystem er en foruroligende udvikling, og vi håber, at den græske regering ikke vil gå i denne retning, skønt den med megen helt ubegrundet festivitas har accepteret, at drachmen medtages ved udregningen og fast sættelsen af ECU-kursen.
worry, and notwithstanding the Greek Government's totally unwarranted gleeful acceptance of the incorporation of the drachma in the value-fixing of the ECU, we hope that it will not proceed in this direction. tion.
MacSharry (RDE). — (EN) Fru formand, allerede i formiddags er der blevet sagt meget om den generelle økonomiske situation.
Mr MacSharry (RDE). — Madam President, already this morning much has been said on the overall economic situation.
Jeg på min side vil kort be skæftige mig med et par af de vigtigere aspekter.
I in turn would like to deal briefly with a few of the more important aspects.
Den geografiske nærhed og det incitament, Fællesska-, bet har skabt, har allerede muliggjort en betydelig udvidelse af samhandelen i Fællesskabet, der i gen nemsnit udgør over 50 % af medlemsstaternes totale udenrigshandel, lige fra 41 % i Det forenede Kongerige til 72% i Nederlandene og fra 49% i Frankrig til 70% i Irland.
Geographical closeness and the impetus created by the Community have already made possible a significant expansion in intra-Community trade, which accounts on average for more than 50% of the Member States' total foreign trade, ranging from 41 % in the United Kingdom to 72% in the Netherlands and from 49% in France to 70% in Ireland.
Dette er en betydelig præstation, der bør konsolideres og udvikles yderligere ved at tilvejebringe det interne marked.
This is a considerable achievement, which should be consolidated and developed still further by bringing about the internal market.
Det er velkendt, at told formaliteterne koster over 10 000 mio ECU om året.
It is well known that customs formalities cost more than 10 000 million ECU per year.
Der kan uden tvivl spares penge her, der kunne overføres til mere kreative sektorer og aktiviteter.
There are undoubtedly savings to be made here and spending that could be transferred to more creative sectors or activities.
Det er også kendt, at alle medlemsstaterne kunne øge deres vækstrater med et eller to point, hvis samhandelen i Fællesskabet frit kunne udvides uhindret.
It is also known that all the Member States could boost their growth-rates by one to two points if trade within the Community were free to expand unobstructed.
På et tidspunkt med lav vækst og arbejdsløshed er dette en direkte måde af fremme den økonomiske opgang på.
At a time of low growth and unemployment this is one direct way of promoting recovery.
For det første er der EMS.
Firstly, there is the EMS.
ECUens rolle er blevet væsentlig større i 1984.
The role of the ECU has expanded considerably in 1984.
Den noteres på adskillige børser, og den private anvendelse er øget.
It is quoted on several stock exchanges, and its private use has grown.
EMS er ikke blevet justeret i halvandet år, hvilket viser, at det er muligt at opretholde et område med valutastabilitet i Europa i en forholdsvis lang periode.
The EMS has not been adjusted for a year and a half, which shows that it is possible to maintain an area of monetary stability in Europe for a relatively long period.
Halv treds procent af EF-landenes udenrigshandel får di rekte gavn af denne stabilitet.
Fifty percent of the EEC countries foreign trade benefits directly from this stability.
EMSens svaghed over for dollaren har været en konstant faktor siden oprettelsen i 1979.
The weak ness of the EMS against the dollar has been a constant factor since it was set up in 1979.
Der har aldrig været en koordineret flydning over for dollaren, og pundet er blevet uden for systemet.
There has never been a coordinated float against the dollar, and sterling has remained outside the system.
Det er derfor ikke muligt at fastholde pariteter mellem den franske franc og den tyske DM i en lang periode, da den med jævne mellemrum ødelægges af dollarens bevægelse.
It is not therefore possible to sustain French franc and German mark parity for a long period, because it is regularly disrupted by the movement of the dollar.
Det er på industriområdet, at Europas nedgang i for hold til dets konkurrenter har været mest markant.
In the industrial field, it is in this area that Europe's slow-down compared with its competitors has been most marked.
I 1983 var industriproduktionen i EF ikke vendt tilbage til 1979-niveau.
In 1983, industrial production in the EEC had not returned to its 1979 level.