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Nu vil jeg gerne komme ind på forskellige forhold, hvoraf det første er, at vi er klar over problemet, og at vi gør vort bedste for at optrappe udgiftstempoet. Socialfonden er et tydeligt eksempel, og jeg skal ikke komme nærmere ind på dette, eftersom jeg har sagt nok herom i begyndelsen af mit indlæg.
It is perhaps worth going over old. ground just a little because I recall that Parliament's position was last made clear in a formal sense on 6 November 1980 on the initiative of Mr Adonnino, the rapporteur for the 1981 budget, when he recognized, and I quote: 'In the case of new and far-reaching policies, requiring the adoption of detailed regulations, the implementation of the relevant appropriations should be subject to the adoption during the financial year of the necessary Commission proposals and Council decisions'.
For det andet vil jeg gerne sige, at vi ikke er den eneste part i sagen.
That is what Mr Adonnino said as recently as 6 November 1980.
For nu at blive i hundeverdenen vil jeg sige, at vi ikke er de eneste; som bør gøs ad, ikke de eneste som i sidste ende har fortjent at blive bidt. Der er jo også Rådet og det tempo, hvori det træffer sine beslutninger, og der er de enkelte medlemsstater og det tempo, hvori de fremsætter projektforslag og ansøger om bevillinger hos os, for det må jo være indlysende, at Kommissionen ikke svæver frit i luften.
On the initiative of Mr Aigner Parliament had before that already criticized the Council in its resolution of 11 July 1980 for not, and I quote: 'having taken the legislative decisions which are a necessary consequence of the entering of appropriations, particularly where these concern new policies.'
Det kan sammenlignes med en smørkærne, hvor Parlamentet ville sige, at det ikke var interesseret i mælken, men kun i fløden, og at det ikke vedkom Parlamentet, at man var ved at hælde mælken fra, men at man først ville begynde at vise interesse for sagen, når man nåede til fløden. Jeg vil vove at påstå, at Parlamentet bør interessere sig for hele kærnen og ikke blot den del, som har med dets egne ændringsforslag at gøre.
The position of Parliament and of the Commission are close to one another, particularly since we believe strongly, as I have said before, that certain items of a mote restricted scope may be implemented by so-called actions ponctuelles — the nearest English approach to that word is ad hoc measures — on the basis of the budget alone.
Det. andet, jeg gerne vil gøre opmærksom på, er, at det ganske rigtigt er vigtigt, at man følger Parlamentets vilje.
Mr Aigner and Mr Battersby both returned a generally positive answer to many of the questions that have been raised about the Commission's discharge of its duties.
Det er meget vigtigt.
I would like to reply in an equally positive fashion.
Men Parlamentet har jo mere end en enkelt vilje, hvis jeg må have lov til at udtrykke det sådan.
For instance I would like to point out in particular that, in connection with all the discussion about implementation, the reason why we reached the impasse we did before Christmas over the Social Fund was precisely because our record of spending in the Social Fund has improved so enormously.
Parlamentet skal sikre, at dets ændringsforslag bliver ført ud i livet.
It has also improved very greatly in the case of the Regional Fund.
Det skal drage omsorg for, at beløb, som det ønsker brugt, også bliver brugt.
It is interesting that in a sense two debates are taking place in parallel at the moment.
Men det skal især også gennem sit udvalg for budgetkontrol sikre, at der ikke ødsles med penge, at der ikke sker misbrug af midler, at der ikke smides penge i rendestenen, og der opstår altid problemer, når· man prøver at bruge penge i en fart, og det er altid vanskeligt at sikre, at pengene bruges godt, når man samtidig skal prøve at få dem brugt i en fart.
Now I would go some way towards meeting them on the second point. I will come to that in a moment, but I think it is inter esting to observe that the debates about inadequacies in terms of spending takes place in the same context and at the same time as a debate about a supplementary budget designed particularly to make up for a shortfall arising from our own success at actually disbursing money that had been voted into the budget.
Jeg er sikker på, at vi alle har personlig erfaring for, at det for det meste ikke er så svært at få brugt nogle penge i en fart.
That is why Parliament, with the full support of the Commission — I emphasize the full support of the Commission — proposes a conciliation procedure in order to reach a consensus.
De fleste finder det sikkert almindeligvis vanskeligere at holde ¡gen på udgifterne end at optrappe dem, og jeg må i hvert fald tilstå, at jeg altid har haft lettere ved at optrappe udgifterne end ved at holde igen.
I was very glad that Mr Battersby returned to that point with a good deal of vigour not only in his resolution but also in his speech today.
Det er vigtigt at sørge for at få brugt bevillingerne til de ting, som Parlamentet har givet udtryk for, at der skulle bruges penge til ingen for en bestemt tidsfrist, men det er også vigtigt at sikre, at alle de nødvendige procedurer bliver overholdt, at finansinspektøren har mulighed for at foretage en korrekt undersøgelse og kontrol, og at medlemsstaterne ikke af en eller anden grund bruger pengene på en måde, som vi ikke finder korrekt, og som Parlamentet heller ikke finder korrekt, og som måske heller ikke er korrekt ifølge forordningernes bestemmelser.
I think it is important to bear these points in mind; I think it is important for Parliament — which some times is a little reluctant to recognize its own successes — to recognize that the injunctions it has rained upon us to improve our rate of expenditure have fallen on fertile ground, and in some important areas we have been very successful at that, more successful than the Council — which is unfortunately, I think, wholly unrepresented here today — has been willing to accept.
Der vil altid være en mindre konflikt mellem på den ene side behovet for at få brugt pengene inden fristens udløb og på den anden side behovet for at sikre, at pengene, når de bliver brugt, bliver brugt korrekt og under iagttagelse af de nødvendige kontrolforanstaltninger.
I should also like to say that the Commission is working as fast as it can on proposals which it has been asked to put forward and is continuing to try to persuade the Council to adopt without further delay draft regulations which are still pending.
Derfor finder jeg det vildledende at vurdere tallene for gennemførelse på den måde, som hr. Battersby har gjort det i sin tabel, og som hr. Aigner var inde på i sin tale.
So, if I might go over the ground again, we share Parliament's concern about this whole problem of the legal basis.
Jeg vil mere, at Kommissionen ¡sær skal vurderes for den fart og effektivitet, hvormed den har gennemført ændringerne, og her dækker ordet effektivitet både omsorg for, at der ikke ødsles penge bort, og for at der faktisk finder en udbetaling sted.
We support Parliament's desire to have a conciliation procedure in order to try to find a way out of the present impasse, in order to seek to develop ideas and operating methods which are more in keeping with the realities of the modern and developing Community in which we live.
Det er efter min mening en mere realistisk måde at vurdere tingene på fremfor blot at se på procentdelen af de endelige beløb, som Parlamentet har fået lagt til.
We are also very much concerned by the Council's practice of some-
Det er helt misvisende at sige, at vi kun har brugt 5 % af ændringsforslaget i løbet af det første år.
Now there is also a certain amount of discussion about the question of the legal base.
Og selv på dette grundlag vil man se, at vore udbetalinger i løbet af det andet år ligger på op til 85 % af ændringsforslaget og 95 % af den samlede bevilling.
This is a problem on which we have frequently had occasion to exchange views and it is a problem which is of very great concern to me and one to which I have been trying to turn my mind, amid various distractions, during the break over Christmas and the New Year.
Tugendhat præsidiet om den videre funktion og organisation af vor kontrol.
Tugendhat times simply holding up measures, with the result that nothing can be done from one year to the next.
Hr. Tugencfhat, De har engang med rette sagt, at hvis Parlamentet ikke meddeler godkendelse, må Kommissionen træde tilbage.
(This will bring me onto the question of implementation in a second.)
Det gælder ikke alene for den gamle, men også for den nye Kommission.
What we need is a much clearer understanding of when and why and in what circumstances proposals are being held up.
Allerede heraf kan De se, at Parlamentet med godkendelsen råder over betydelige rettigheder.
We must not have difficulties over agreement being allowed to undermine the normal decisionmaking procedure.
Jeg erkender, at der er et problem her, og det ønsker jeg ikke, at der skal herske nogen misforståelser om.
The Social Fund is a tangible example, and I will not say any more on that because I said enough at the beginning' of my speech.
Jeg vedkender mig, at det er nødvendigt at udgiftstempoet bliver øget.
Secondly, I would say that we are not the only party involved.
Hvis De finder den nuværende situation uantagelig, skal De gå i kødet på os, men også på medlemsstaterne både i et forsøg på at kalde dem til orden, men også i et forsøg på at finde udveje for at forbedre deres foranstalt ninger til sikring af, at pengene nu også bliver brugt, noget som vi gerne vil hjælpe med til. Det var alt, hvad jeg havde at sige her.
Every one who is familiar with the way the budget works knows that the speed of decision on the part of the Council is one element, and that the way in which the Member States carry out their own activities, the speed with which they bring forward projects, and the speed with which their bureaucracies submit bills, are other problems as well.
Hr. Tugendhat, 90 % af arbejdet i Parlamentets udvalg for budgetkontrol består ikke i at presse Dem til at give mere ud, men at sørge for, at De giver pengene rigtigt ud, det vil således sige, at der med et minimum af omkostninger nås et maksimum af resultat.
I hope I have said enough to show that, though we do find this a very difficult and complicated problem, it is one which we wish to approach in a constructive spirit.
Når vi i godkendelsesdebatten 1977/78 lagde tyngdepunktet på godkendelsen, udgifterne og dermed på realiseringen af politikken så skete det, fordi her berøres Parlamentets hovedrettighed, nem lig medbestemmelsen i Fællesskabets politik via budgettet.
It is one where we believe evolution is necessary. It is one where we believe that the present situation is not in the interests or Parliament, nor in the interests of the Community as a whole.
Hvis denne rettighed så ikke fungerer under gennemførelsen af budgettet, er det klart, at Parlameritet må sætte sig til modværge.
It is one where we will lend our best efforts to finding a solution more in keeping with, as I say, the realities of a developing Community.
Jeg vil gerne ganske kort slutte af, hr. formand; der var et tredje punkt, som drejede sig om Kommissionens tidsfrist for udfærdigelsen af en rapport om opfølgningen af godkendelsen.
The second point I would make is yes, it is important that Parliament's will should be complied with.
Kommissionen har ikke i sit forslag til en ændring af finansforordningen fremsat forslag om en ændring på dette område.
Parliament has the will to ensure that its amendments are implemented.
Dette forekommer os mere praktisk end en enkelt rapport i november.
Parliament has a will to see that money which it wishes to see spent, is spent.
Det er Kommissionens opfattelse, at den nu gældende metode opfylder Parlamentets krav ved at give institutionerne tilstrækkelig tid til at behandle de emner, som er blevet taget op.
But Parliament, especially the Budgetary Control Committee, also has a will to see that money is not wasted, that money is not subject to fraud, that money is not poured down the drain and there is always a difficulty when one is seeking to spend money quickly to make sure that it is also well spent.
Det er jeg Dem yderst taknemmelig for.
Both of them recalled their earlier criticisms.
Med hensyn til de andre ting i beslutningsforslaget, er det enten noget, som ikke direkte vedkommer Kommissionen, eller noget, hvortil vi ikke har yderligere kommentarer.
I think all of us know from our personal experience that, on the whole, it is not too difficult to spend money quickly.
Andet ting er sager, som det ansvarlige udvalg og Kommissionen bestemt bør tage op, og som siden bør tages frem her i forsamlingen.
Most of us, I think, in general find it a greater problem to restrain our expenditure than to increase it, and certainly I must confess that I have always found that it is easier to increase expenditure than to restrain it.
Det gælder ikke for alle nye politiske aktiviteter, og den gamle Kommission har jo ofte bevist, at den, når den virkelig har det politiske mod, også kan frem tvinge nye politiske aktiviteter, selv om Rådet er imod og siger, at det egentlig først skulle skabe retsgrundlaget. laget.
It was only in 1979 that we began to be asked whether we could actually spend money, and it was only in 1980, after the direct elections, after this Assembly had taken on its present form, that the quite specific questions were put to us by Mr Dankert in his resolution and then subsequently during discussions in the Committee on Budgets about whether we could spend the money or not.
Hr. formand, jeg har talt noget længere, end jeg havde tænkt mig, men problemerne omkring retsgrundlaget og gennemførelsen er af central betydning. Der kom mange hentydninger til, at vi nok er en ny Kommission, men at der dog er kendte ansigter.
While it is necessary to ensure that money is spent on the objects for which Parliament has said that it should be spent in the right time-scale, it is also important to ensure that all the procedures are gone through, that the financial controller is able to conduct the right sort of investigation and enquiry and that money is not being applied in the Member States for whatever reason in ways which we do not believe is right and which the Parliament does not believe is right and which may indeed not be right in terms of the regulation.
Jeg har gerne villet give udtryk for, at vi ikke blot deler Parlamentets bekymringer, men også deltager i løsningen af disse problemer på en konstruktiv og positiv måde.
There is always a slight conflict between the need to spend money in due time and the need to make sure that, when money is spent, it is spent in the proper way and subject to the proper control procedures.
Jeg tror, at når vi engang bliver enige med Kommissionen om denne formule magique som vi anvender i ethvert budget, i enhver budgetpost, når vi mener, at selve budgettet er tilstrækkeligt som retsgrundlag, så må Kommissionen også i gennemførelsen af budgettet holde sig til denne retsopfattelse uafhængigt af, om Rådet medvirker eller ikke.
As, I think, came through from Mr Irmer's remarks — and I know it is something which those concerned with these matters in the Parliament fully appreciate — Parliament has a part to play as well; but if Parliament insists, as it has a perfect right to do, that some thing should go into the budget which we have said we doubt we shall be able to spend, it cannot then be surprised at the end of the day if it turns out that, for the reasons which we explained at the outset, we have been unable to do as much as we would have liked. Parliament asks the questions, but it needs sometimes to listen to our answers, t
Den institution, der gennemfører budgettet, er og bliver Kommissionen, og for os er det fuldstændig
I know very well, and I do not complain about this, that if the occasion were to arise in which money was not spent on the right objects, if money was wasted, if money was put to wrong usage, Mr Aigner and Mr Battersby and Mr Irmer and other people who have
Jeg tror, at denne nye Kommission uforståeligt, at Rådet i de sidste år mere og mere har udviklet sig til Fællesskabets udøvende institution, og Kommissionen mere og mere er optrådt som Rådets hjælpeorgan.
I think that in the Social Fund we are capable of doing that, but I ask you first of all to widen your criteria in the ways that I have suggested, or at any rate take into account the criteria that I am suggesting.
Det må få en ende med den nye Kommission!
I ask you, secondly, to remember that we are not the only players in this game.
kommer med en frisk, ny brise og med en mere konstruktiv budgetpolitik.
The Council as such and the Member States as such are also involved.
Jeg vil også gerne takke hr. Tugendhat for at have henledt vor opmærksomhed på, at der er andre, som også deltager i budgetbehandlingen, og for at have bedt os gemme et bid eller to til Rådet og medlemsstaterne.
If you find the present situation unatisfactory go at us but also go at the Member States and go at them both in the sense of trying to knock them into line and also trying to find ways — and we would cooperate with this — of improving their procedures to actually ensure that the money is spent. That's all I have to say on that point.
Jeg vil gerne lige have lov til at sige et par ord om hr. Notenbooms bemærkninger vedrørende fodevarebistand.
The next point I would make, and this is something which I have also said before, is that I really do not believe that Parliament ought to down-grade its own position in the decisionmaking procedure.
Jeg vil gerne have Kommissionen til at over veje mulighederne for multinationale hjælpeprogrammer, eftersom virkningerne af hungersnød, over svømmelser, tørke og den opslidende fattigdom, som en stor del af verden lever i, ikke forsvinder hvert år den 31. december.
One can follow the stages rather like a geological examination. But when eventually a line is in the budget with 100 000 000 units of account or whatever the figure may be, it really is not right to say that the Council was responsible for 80 000 000 of those and the Parliament is responsible for only 20 000 000 of them.
Det er ting, som vil være nærværende i mange år endnu, og derfor mener jeg, at vi i vort budget bør anlægge et mere langsigtet syn på fonds til fødevarebistand og planlægning for samme.
The fact of the matter is that the Council and Parliament are both of them responsible for the whole 100 000 000 and both of them ought to be concerned to ensure that all that money is properly spent in the time available.
Der er et sidste punkt, der ligger mig meget på sinde.
In its proposed modification of the Financial Regulation the Commission has made no proposal for change in this area.
Vi har i de sidste uger, hr. formand, haft meget hårde meningsudvekslinger med Kommissionen om eksport subventionerne.
Indeed, the method of having a full account delivered in May of the year following the discharge decision preceded by an interim report in October, as we have done this year, seems more practical than having one single report in November.
Kommissionen havde efter en hård diskussion en formiddag meddelt os sin afgørelse om, at der ikke længere udbetales subventioner for eksport til Zaire-området.
In the Commission's view, the present method meets Parliament's requirements by allowing the institutions to examine issues raised in a timely manner.
Vi har i de sidste dage kunnet konstatere, at denne kommissionsafgørelse i praksis blev omgået ved hjælp af et nyt tarifnummer, idet der f.eks. blev afsluttet eksportforretninger med Sovjetunionen, hvor man har blandet smørfedt med kokosfedt i forholdet 30 til 70 °/o. Nu er subventionen så høj, at det til Sovjetunionen eksporterede smør er billigere end det smør, vi leverer til Polen.
There is a danger in the way in which the argument is developing, namely Parliament saying that while you are on the 80 000 000 that is no concern of ours, it is only when you get on to the 20 000 000 that you are dealing with the point that really concerns us.
Sådan noget må ikke forekomme, her må informationen inden for Kommissionen forhindre, at en sådan afgørelse muliggør omgåelser.
It is rather as if one had a churn of milk and Parliament said it is not interested in the milk but only in the cream and, while you are draining off the milk this is no concern of ours, it is only when you get to the cream that our interests begins.
Vor naturlige modstander er nu engang Rådet, hr. Tugendhat, fordi det i sin nationale kortsynethed og i sit krav på almagten i praksis blokerer den videre udvikling af Fællesskabet.
I would argue that Parliament ought to be concerned with the whole can of milk and not just with that part which arises from its own amendments is part of the whole proposal to be dealt with on the basis of equality with the rest.
Kommissionen og Parlamentet kan sprænge denne blokade, men vi må gå samlet frem, kun da kan det lykkes os.
Now on the other matters in the draft resolution the Commission is either not directly concerned or has no additional remarks to make.
Derfor venter vi af den nye Kommission et mere intenst samråd end tidligere.
Some of them are matters which the responsible committee and the Commission can certainly pursue which ought subsequently to come to the floor of the House.
Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne lige sige et par ord til hr. Aigner, fordi han rejste et enkelt, vigtigt nyt punkt i tale, nemlig spørgsmålet om forsikringer fra Kommissionen.
Mr President, I have spoken at rather greater length than I had intended, but the points about the legal base and the implementation are of central import ance.
Hele problemet om betydningen af, om Kommissionen kan eller ikke kan få brugt sine penge, er, som jeg har sagt af relativ ny dato. Det opstod første gang i 1979, selv om det først var i 1980, dét skete på officielt plan, og her taler vi stadig om en periode, som lå noget forude.
Several references were made to the fact that we are a new Commission, albeit with some familiar faces.
På dette punkt giver jeg Dem ret, hr. Tugendhat.
President. — I call Mr Aigner.
Men vi har i alle budgetbehandlinger kun forhøjet de konti, hvor Kommissionen har erklæret, at den er i stand til at kunne anvende disse forhøjede bevillinger.
That is why I think it is misleading to look at the figures for implementation in the way in which Mr Battersby has done in his table and the way in which Mr Aigner mentioned in his speech.
Jeg har i næsten tyve år været medlem af budgetudvalget. Vi har ved hver eneste konto altid spurgt os selv, om De også kunne anvende bevillingen.
Here, if one looks at the appropriations for payment entered in the budget lines for 1978 as affected by Parliament's amendments, we find that 48 · 5 % of these were spent in the first year and 94 · 47 % over the first and second year.
Hvis Kommissionen har sagt til os, vi kan ikke bruge pengene, så har budgetudvalget heller ikke forhøjet.
Now that, in my view, is a more realistic way of looking at the issue than simply looking at the percentage of the final amount of money which was added by Parliament.
Hvis vi nemlig på forhånd ved, at bevillingen ikke kan udnyttes, så bruger vi hellere pengene til en anden politik, om hvilken vi ved, at den kan føre til et nyt gennembrud.
Even on that basis in the second year you find that our expenditure is up to 85 % of the amendment and
Hr. Tugendhat, på dette punkt vil der sikkert ikke opstå nogen konfrontation.
Mr Aigner, rapporteur. — (D) Mr President, I too should like to begin by thanking Mr Tugendhat for his statement.
Jeg mener blot, at vi må arbejde fastere sammen i vor fælles politik — og det vil sige ¡mod Rådet.
I feel it has become clear how important this debate is.
Hvis hr. Battersbys kontrolbetænkning og min betænkning har medvirket til, at vi kommer til en større politisk overensstemmelse, så var dette efter min mening en god debat.
We therefore intend to discuss the future function and organization of our control activities with the Bureau as soon as possible.
Parlamentet kan måske mene, at det på den måde prikker til Rådet, og det kan det måske have ret i.
Mr President, what I am trying to do is to put the whole thing into context.
Derefter kan vi så drøfte den mest
I accept, and I do not want