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Derfor vil jeg gerne på min gruppes vegne fremsætte nogle indvendinger mod det beslutningsforslag, der er fremsat af kommunisterne, af regnbuegruppen og af socialister ne.
I am aston­ished that the Bureau should be taking up that remark of mine when it is not examining the behaviour — of which I originally complained — of the British Social­ists and others on the extreme left yesterday during the visit of President Reagan.
(Afbrydelse fra venstre)
(Parliament rejected the motion for a resolution)1
Det synes alligevel, at denne økonomiske boykot kræver nogle kommentarer.
President. — We will not continue this debate now as we shall be dealing with these incidents in a different context.
Hvis nogen tror, at det at tage til et land i tre dage eller endog en uge giver dem mulighed for at se, hvad der sker, tager de grundigt fejl.
President. — I wish to draw the attention of my French colleagues to a mistake in the French version of the agenda.
(Tilråb fra venstre)
Β 2-260/85/rev.)
Jeg var engang ordfører for denne region, det kan jeg fremlægge tal på.
IN THE CHAIR: MR ALBER
Hvilke midler har vore venner i den modsatte side af salen? Har de for eksempel kilder inden for efterret ningsvæsenet, har de billeder taget fra recognosceringsfly?
— the motion for a resolution by Mr Mouchel and others, on behalf of the Group of the European Democratic Alliance, on the urgent need to fix the farm prices and adopt the related measures for the 1985-86 marketing year (Doc.
Nabolandene i denne region er bekymrede over Nicaragua.
Mr Balfe has asked to speak on a point
(Protest fra venstre)
President. of order.
Det er noget forfærdeligt sludder, og enhver, der har del mindste kendskab til militære sager, ved, at det er helt hen i vejret at fremsætte sådanne vurderinger.
It must also be acknowledged that this has often been due to the domestic policies of Member States, or electoral reasons.
Kom dog ikke og fortæl mig, at det er et pluralistisk partisystem.
There am some years when the approach of elections speeds up debates.
Den slags har vi også ret tæt på den tyske grænse.
There are others — such as this year — when the opposite is the case.
Situationen er moden, og den kan blive endnu mere moden til etableringen af et diktatur.
I was going to sug­gest that this is part of a wider problem and should be referred to the same source, namely, the Committee
Antallet af politiske fanger er stadig stort. Mange politiske partiers aktiviteter er blevet alvorligt be grænset, og alle har været udsat for begrænsninger af et vist omfang. Pressen kontrolleres stadig strengt. Valget var hverken frit eller fair. selv om det var halvt pluralistisk.
The farmers — or to be more precise, the stock breed­ers, since it is in fact only they that are concerned — are very much affected by these politicking fluctua­tions, the cost of which they have to bear, and which prevent us from getting on with the building of Europe.
•'ran præsident Ortega om, at han også inviteres til Bruxelles for at modtage særhjælp imod den amerikanske boykot, i hele den tid, den varer?
S. Martin coresponsibility levy and a virtual price freeze. This came after a difficult year, since in 1983 the net income of the farmers had already decreased on average by 13.5%.
(Bifald fra venstrefløjen) på, at de ikke ville give afkald på magten, uanset resultatet. Ikke nok med det, de gjorde det helt klart, at resultatet var beregnet på at være til gunst for dem.
is the time when, each year, priorities are established as between one policy and another, or one type of agricultural produce and another.
Ønsker vore kolleger fra den anden side virkelig, at vi skal føre en politik, der er i direkte og åben konflikt med den, vores vigtigste allierede, De forenede Stater, fører, som vi i vid udstrækning er afhængige af, når det drejer sig om vores egen frihed, vores eget forsvar og opretholdelsen af NATO-skjoldet?
These measures — despite some overall improvement in farmers' incomes, due mainly to an exceptional grain harvest — still further affected the milk prod ucers' incomes, and in addition there was the disturb ance of the beef market due to the slaughtering of milk cows, the effects of which will continue to be felt during this year.
Hr. formand, de foranstaltninger, der foreslås i de socialistiske og kommunistiske beslutninger, er i bedste fald latterlige og i værste fald tåbelige, og jeg nærer tillid til, at Parlamentet vil stemme for de ændringsforslag, der er stillet af det europæiske folkepartis gruppe og min egen gruppe.
In this context it is therefore essential for the Council to fix farm prices before the next Council of Agricultural Ministers on 13 May — and I imagine that part of the electoral obstacle will have disappeared by then, which will undoubtedly facilitate its task on the basis of the Parliament's proposals, which are in our view the only acceptable ones capable of meeting the prod ucers' needs.
(Bifald fra den europæiske demokratiske gruppe)
The Council must also recognise the budgetary implications of its proposals.
Ingen boykot fra USA imod det racistiske Sydafrika, men rigtignok imod Nicaraguas befolkning, der har befriet sig fra Washingtons ven, Somozas folkedrab.
The harm which the farmers suffer varies very much according to what they produce, but it also varies from one country to another.
Historien vil ikke glemme det. GRAEL-med-lemmerne af regnbuegruppen har taget beslutningsforslaget i mit navn tilbage.
The delay in fixing farm prices does not in fact harm those producers for whose products no price increase is envisaged.
Vi vil ikke give ændringsforslagene af den kristelige demokrat, hr. Habsburg m. fl. til vort beslutningsforslag en chance; vi støtter socialisternes og kommunisternes kompromistekst.
On the other hand, in those sectors of farm production that are worth encouraging but which present problems, if there ought to be a price increase then each day's additional delay increases the harm done to the farm ers engaged in this production.
Filinis (COM). - (GR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, det bør være et principspørgsmål for Det europæiske Fællesskab, at det beslutsomt modsætter sig indblanding i folkenes og landenes uafhængighed, hvor som helst denne kommer fra, og med hvilket som helst argument det sker.
Furthermore, I cannot refrain from remarking that those very same members of the Council who were calling for budgetary discipline are today in the pro cess of realizing that the consequences are sometimes heavy to bear.
Først da vil der være en bred front til fordel for freden og for folkenes frihed i hele ver den.
That is ample proof, as my group has on numerous occasions pointed out, that the budget can only reflect and, in fact, must only reflect, lines of policy and decisions.
Jeg er overbevist om, at Nicaragua er en historisk udfordring, både for Parlamentet og for os alle.
We are now in effect going to reach 15 May with farm prices still not having been fixed.
Ingen af os kan her forblive neutral, heller ikke jeg.
This is a practice that stems from a bad policy, and that penalizes too many farmers.
Som følge heraf appellerer vi til Europa-Parlamentet om at følge den almindelige bekymring hos Europas offentlighed op og beslutsomt tage plads ved siden af et lille, men heroisk folk som Nicaraguas, der eksemplarisk og med succes har kæmpet for sin frihed, og som i dette øjeblik står over for et uhørt angreb mod sin uafhængighed på grund af ulovlige og provokerende aktioner fra Reagan-regeringens side.
I hope that this motion for a compromise resolution, that we have presented jointly with a number of Members from different Groups — as Mrs Martin pointed out — will receive an entirely favourable vote showing a very large majority. I hope also that it will take into account the harm done to farmers by the delay in fixing the prices.
Af denne grund har jeg fremsat et beslutningsforslag, men efter moden overvejelse har jeg taget det tilbage til fordel for kompromisforslaget. Hvorfor?
It is moreover essential, as far as the stock breeders and, above all, the milk producers are concerned, for the Council to make compensation for the conse quences of the delay, for which it is responsible.
Hvis disse ændringsforslag virkelig vedtages, ville det betyde en godkendelse af præsident Reagans politik, som forkastes af en stor del af han egen offentlige opinion og også af hele ver densopinionen.
An undertaking along these lines was moreover given — if I am to believe certain of the media in my country — by President Pandolfi to the farmers' meeting in Luxembourg last week.
Jeg har hørt, at selv den nederlandske og den belgiske regering i går udtalte sig imod en økonomisk boykot af Nicaragua.
It is also the only way to show the producers that they are not being taken lightly, and that, in this uncertain period, account is being taken of their concern.
(Bifald fra venstrefløjen)
(Applause from the centre and the right)
Grunden til, at Repræsentanternes Hus nu synes at støtte contraente, er, at præsident Daniel Ortega rejste til Moskva. Til Warszawa, Beograd og Prag.
Mr Woltjer (S). — (NL) Mr President, it is not an everyday happening that my name occurs together with those of Mrs Martin and Mr Mouchel, the presenters and originators of this resolution.
Desuden kommer præsident Ortega også til Madrid.
So on that point there is no difference of opinion. nion.
Direkte efter præsident Reagans statsbesøg modtager ministerpræsident Gonzalez sin ven Ortega som repræsentant for Nicaraguas venligtsindede befolkning.
Mr Mouchel (RDE). — (FR) Mr President, after the last speech by Mrs Martin, I could simply have added that I approve entirely of what she has just said, and then sat down again.
Det ville være en historisk fejltagelse, der måtte erkendes som sådan af en stor del af deres egne tilhængere.
Nor is there any as regards paragraph 2 of the motion for a resolution, although I should like to say some thing in passing.
Det kan jeg vidne om, hvad Flandern angår.
Mr President, at the time of the prices
Efter at De så latterligt holdt små skilte op, og præsident Reagans tale i går blev så stor en succes, holder De med disse forslag på den gale hest. Derfor skulle De hellere til slutte Dem de to andre gruppers ændringsforslag.
debate we expressly stated what our point of view was and when the budget was dealt with this week we heard that that standpoint was still supported by Com missioner Andriessen.
(Bifald fra midten og fra højre)
I should like to mention that expressly.
Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Hr. formand, også jeg vil gerne sige til kollegerne på den modsatte side. at vi ikke anmoder Dem om noget usædvanligt. Vi anmoder Dem ikke om at sætte Dem for meget op imod Reagans farlige politik, vi anmoder Dem ikke om at velsigne Daniel Ortega.
(Interruption by Mr Fellermaier: 'Mr Kiechle blocked things again'.) where prices should have been increased — Mr Fellermaier, you used to be more imaginative than with that interjection of yours.
Vi anmoder Dem kun om én ting: at modsætte Dem lige så meget som den amerikanske kongres. De skal ikke være mere hellig end Paven selv, De skal ikke være mere amerikansk end amerikanerne selv.
Most of all, however, the farm ers' confidence in the ability of the Community to take decisions has suffered as a result.
Zahorka (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, Nicaragua bør betragtes differentieret.
Then I come to the commercial factor, Mr President, that is, the cereals prices.
Dér sidder der i dag socialdemokratiske fagforeningsfolk i fængsel, tvangsforflyttes bønder of begås folkedrab på indianere.
On the basis of an agreement in the Council the Commission has proposed to reduce those prices by 3.6%. That is a very essential matter.
Det er en kendsgerning, at det sandinistiske regime er en forstyrrende faktor i Centralamerika både indadtil og udadtil og for de demokratiske grundprincipper.
Actually I am a little surprised that the Commission has been trying to play Old Maid too much this week whilst in fact a very alarming matter is at issue, namely the principle that when the threshold of production is crossed prices are actually reduced — is that principle maintained or not? Is there or is there not swindling on this point?
(Bifald fra venstrefløjen)
That is the first and principal question.
(Bifald fra midten og fra højre)
There is no point in assigning blame in this situation.
Vi ved alle, at den langfristede værdi af en økonomisk embargo er omstridt.
Much too little attention has so far been paid to that.
Det hører ikke til vores repertoire, men vi har en vis forståelse for vær dien af det politiske signal, som den amerikanske regering har villet give med denne foranstaltning.
What is actually to be made of the promise of the President of the Commission, Mr Delors, at the time of his taking up office, to the effect that the Commission would respect the wishes of Parliament more than its predecessor did?
(Afbrydelse fra Fellermaier: »Hvem er »vi«?«)
Just when it comes to keeping its promise it refuses to do so.
De bør lægge mærke til, hvad kongressen gjorde, tage ærlig og værdig stilling og bekræfte, at De ikke er marionetter i den farlige Reagan-politiks hænder.
In dealing with prices I have already observed that when in market management the price instrument is employed, another instrument is then needed to deal with the social aspects of agriculture, in this case the income aspect.
Jeg spørger mig selv, hvordan parlamentsmedlemmerne fra Nyt Demokrati — græske parlamentsmedlemmer — kunne stemme imod en fordømmelse af den økonomiske boykot af Nicaragua en måned før valget i Grækenland, når deres politiske parti taler om uafhængig politik. Jeg sporger mig selv, hvordan irske parlamentsmedlemmer, som har oplevet så megen afpresning til skade for deres land, kan have samme synspunkter som de kristelige demokrater eller en gelske konservative.
It surprises me that on this point the Commissioner has still made scarcely any move. He sticks to his 3.6% but on the other hand on the ques tion of those social problems which have been put for ward strongly by one of the Member States in particular he has made hardly any advance.
De, som drømmer om et nyt Grenada, bør vide, at hvis der skulle ske en gentagelse i Nicaragua, vil vi få et nyt Vietnam.
I sincerely hope too that in order to forestall blunders the Commission on Monday next week will in fact show rather more imagination than it has done up to now.
Hr. Fellermaier, jeg understreger, at når jeg siger »vi«, behøver De ikke at være inkluderet.
If it wishes to stick to its line of policy as regards management of the market in cereals it will have to make some advance as regards the social problems.
(Bifald fra venstrefløjen)
But not only the Commission.
Vandemeulebroucke (ARC). — (NL) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, også jeg har været i Nicaragua.
We call expressly upon the Council: Act quickly and be guided by the principle that no Member State can be expected to accept what it must necessarily regard as intolerable.
Vi bliver nødt til, også efter valgene, at opregne en række kendsgerninger.
The application of the majority decision in the Council will therefore only have a chance in future if the Council in its decisions allows itself to be guided by this principle. ple.
Sandinisterne var rede til at give de kontrarevolutionære amnesti.
But Mrs Martin spoke also of budgetary discipline.
Managua har forhandlet med mosqui-to-ledcrc, der opererede fra Costa Rica.
In this Parliament we have always arranged that in the application of Article 39 of the EEC Treaty we have first determined what is necessary from the point of view of agricultural policy and subsequently have arranged the finance.
Der var for slaget i forbindelse med forslagene i Mazanilia.
I should not like now to start a fresh debate on agricultural prices in order to answer my Honourable Friend Mr Woltjer.
Der var forslaget i forbindelse med forslagene i Mazanilia.
The Parliament's view is available, it was adopted on 14 March.
Der har været forhandlinger.
The important thing for
Vi er glade for Somoza-diktaturets fald, men vi ønsker heller ikke et marxistisk diktatur.
With regard to paragraph 2 of this resolution I there fore want to say that we toe support it.
Den amerikanske regering vil med sin foranstaltning give udtryk for sin umisforståelige modstand mod den sandinistiske politik. Hvorfor er 90 000 af Nicaraguas borgere flygtet til Costa Rica?
We think then in particular of the point about the surcharge, with regard to which the Council — or actually the Com mission on the basis of a Council regulation — has already decided that the quota must be reduced by one million tonnes.
Det er jo okonomipolitisk forkert, når det siges, at man jager Nicaragua i armene på Moskva! Dér er det jo allerede efter Ortegas nylige besøg i Moskva.
In that case I find it justified too that the coresponsibility levy, which now still stands at 3% should be reduced with retro-active effect as from 1 April, when the quotas too went down.
Kære kolleger, vi hørte her i går ret store ord om frihed, men indebærer frihed ikke i første række en-
These two factors were linked one to another and on that point too we thus fully support this resolution.
\'a ud rim· n I c· bro ur ke ga, hr. Claude Cheyssons vegne, som, hvilket de ære de medlemmer vil vide, er den kommissær, der er ansvarlig for de emner, der er til diskussion.
Bocklet us is that on the basis of that view the Council should arrive at a decision as soon as possible and we there fore ask that the compromise proposal, tabled by all political groups, should be supported.
hver befolknings ret til selvbestemmelse?
I pointed this out during the debate on farm prices.
Indebærer denne ret ikke en grundlæggende ret til at vælge sin egen sociale og økonomiske udviklingsmodel?.
Budgetary constraints are simply false pretexts.
Hvad betyder alle internationale aftaler, menneske-og folkercttighcdcr, De forenede Nationers pagt, traktaten om organisationen af amerikanske stater, når én stor magt kan overtræde alle disse aftaler efter eget for godtbefindende?
Mr Newton Dunn (ED). — Mr President, agricultural prices should be, and must be, decided by a majority vote in the Council of Ministers.
Derfor må vi eftertrykkeligt forkaste handelsembargoen, og derfor vil jeg støtte socialister nes og kommunisternes kompromisforslag.
My group leader, Sir Henry Plumb, said exactly that one month ago in this very Chamber.
(Bifald fra venstre — Afbrydelse fra højre: »Det er fordi, De er socialist!)
So it is not the financial resources that are lacking, but the political will to defend the Community farming industry, and to resist the Americans.
Man fortæller mig, at jeg er socialist. Det takker jeg for.
There is also a compromise amendment.
Efter Kommissionens opfattelse vil disse foranstaltninger gøre det endnu mere vanskeligt at genoprette den stabilitet, som hele den centralamerikanske region har så hårdt brug for.
Three years ago, the Agriculture Ministers in the Council were similarly deadlocked.
Jeg vil gerne minde Parlamentet om, at Fællesskabetspolitik over for Nicaragua siden Somoza-diktatu-rets fald har været karakteriseret af praktisk støtte til det genopbygnings- og udviklingsarbejde, som fores tås af Nicaraguas regering. Det har været skiftende Kommissioners opfattelse.
I therefore call on the Council to conclude its negotiations on 13 May, taking into account the proposals adopted on 14 March by the European Parliament, as called for by the compromise amendment of which I am a signatory.
Hvad er der blevet tilbage af disse gode hensigter efter valgene?
We in this Chamber know that well, but the public does not know that and does not understand.
For det første afbrød regeringen den nationale dialog uden afgørende motivering.
They don't understand why there was no reform of the dairy surplus for years.
For det andet hindredes leder ne af den politiske opposition og endog kirkelederne i deres bevægelsesfrihed, bl. a. gennem nægtelse af udrejscvisa. For det tredje skærpedes pressecensuren.
That was because the Council of Ministers, meeting in total secrecy, ran away from the decision year after year, preferring to spend money building an ever bigger butter mountain.
For det fjerde rejste præsident Ortega til østbloklandene for at søge finansiel og først og fremmest militær støtte.
Mr Maher (L). — Mr President, I think it is unfortunate that we are conducting this debate in the absence of the Council.
For det femte tog man modet fra de private virksomheder, som efter revolutionen havde gjort en indsats for at genrejse den nationale økonomi, ved ikke at levere råstoffer samt ved andre plagerier.
I know, of course, that there are some civil servants from the Council present, but we don't have any political representation; and after all, we are aiming our guns at the Council not at the Commission.
Mellem 1979 og 1983 modtog Nicaragua i alt 71,15 millioner ECU i hjælp, hvoraf 15 millioner ECU alene blev ydet i 1983.
However much I might disagree with the Commission in what they have proposed on farm prices, they are not responsible for the delay.
I løbet af denne periode har Nicaragua således modtaget en tredjedel af Fællesskabets samlede hjælp til Centralamerika.
In fact, I would like to give them credit, and the Agriculture Commissioner particularly, for all the efforts he has made to get the Council to reach a conclusion.
Som de ærede medlemmer vil vide, er det Fællesskabets generelle opfattelse, at kilden til de problemer der hærger regionen, skal søges i den sociale og økonomiske uligevægt.
The Council of Ministers, meeting undemocratically in total secrecy must be forced into the habit of taking decisions by majority voting. It is our duty to push them in that direction.
På bag grund af denne analyse kan økonomiske foranstaltninger af den type, som foreslås af De forenede Sta ter, i Kommissionens øjne kun forværre en situation, som har bragt i hundredetusindvis af folk ulykke.
Otherwise, they are wasting our taxpayers' money, they are leaving our citizens in a state of unjustified uncertainty and they are abusing the democratic traditions of Europe.
(Bifald fra venstre)
(Applause from the European Democratic Group)
Denne systematiske benægtelse af løfter og af forsoningsgestus fra sandinisternes side fremkalder en overdreven, og jeg understreger, en overdreven reaktion fra den amerikanske regerings side som handel sembargoen.
Mr Pranchère (COM). — (FR) Mr President, two months ago, when adopting the report that I had presented on behalf of the Committee on Agriculture, our Assembly addressed an urgent appeal to the Commission and the Council.
Fru Lenz har understreget, at vi ikke var enige heri.
To date, Ministers have refused to heed that appeal, and have got bogged down in interminable negotiations.
De er til stede i begge lejre.
I think there is a simple way out of this dilemma.
En skærpelse af modsætningerne, således som det siges i nogle beslutninger, bringer ikke sagen videre.
There is a formula which is quite well known in industrial relations.
Jeg vil derfor også stemme imod dem.
I have often seen it occur in my own country and I have seen it occur in others.
Clinton Davis, medlem af Kommissionen. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg rejser mig for at svare på de spørgsmål, der er blevet stillet i denne forhandling på min kolle
When there is a delay in the fixing, for instance, of wages, often there is retrospection.
I denne forbindelse vil Kommissionen minde om, at Fællesskabet på det politiske område har forpligtet sig til at udvikle strukturerede forbindelser mellem Euro pa og landene i Centralamerika.
Agreement is reached that if there is a delay of a month, two months or three months, then the wages will be made applicable so as to provide compensation to those who are in receipt of these incomes for the time lost.
San José i Costa Rica den 28. og 29. september sidste år — det er noget, man ikke bør glemme!
Maher compensated for the failure of the Council to reach decisions in time.
Nu ved jeg ikke. hvad kommissæren helt præcist sag de.
They have shamefully allowed themselves to be hedged in on all sides by their finance colleagues.
Hr. kommissær, hvis De sagde det, går det videre end det.
They are pussy-footing around with technocratic budgetary solutions which I strongly reject.
De skal sige som kommissær.
Wake up, Agriculture Ministers, before it is too late!