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(NL) Derfor kræver miljøudvalget et forbud.
mately 11% and skim milk powder by no less than 20%.
Er det for øvrigt nødvendigt at minde om, at denne fremgangsmåde går på tværs af moralen, retten og de internationale aftaler, der højtideligt er blevet under skrevet af dem, der benytter den, at den står i mod sætning til civilisationens grundlæggende værdinormer, uden hvilke det menneskelige liv ville være uden betydning, sådan som det organiserede samfund har til formål?
Nevertheless, we have to recognize— and I believe that Mr Woltjer has already pointed this out — that milk production is currently running at the level of the quota and even a few percentage points above the annual average. Here I feel that I must make use of this opportunity to tell producers quite categorically that if it is true, as Mr Woltjer has said, that everyone will exceed the quota, then this is going to cost every one money.
Formanden. — Deres indlæg var sandelig fremragende, kære kollega, men jeg tror, at det vil være bedst ikke at komplicere tingene yderligere for tolkene. Jeg vil bede Dem om kun at tale på et sprog.
I admit that the changes we have made to the system have tended to emphasize collective re sponsibility at the expense of individual responsibility.
Man må ligeledes endnu en gang understrege, at fænomenet støjsending bekræfter på den ene side Sovjetunionens og dens vasalstaters svigagtighed og på den anden Vestens naivitet, da den underskrev Hel sinki-aftalerne samt alle de andre instrumenter, der kom før dem.
What I would like to say is that although we have been forced to institute a number of temporary measures to cope with difficulties in introducing the system and that these have given the quotas more of a national character than the individual one they origin ally had, it is important to consider that the system is continuing to work in the case of the superlevy.
Collins (S), ordfører. — (EN) Hr. formand, der er intet i forretningsordenen, som siger, at et medlem kun må tale et sprog.
I believe this is an appropriate opportunity, and an appropriate time in the sales season, to make this point quite clearly in relation to this report.
I mellemtiden bliver vi nødt til at fordømme dette fænomen og brændemærke den holdning de udøvende stater indtager.
The intervention scheme does indeed give rise to a number of problems, one of them being the structure of certain Member States.
Når jeg har valgt eller er tvunget til at blive her så sent på aftenen for at tale i denne næsten tomme sal, der giver ekko, mener jeg at have ret til at lette byrden for dem, som er her sammen med mig.
Political bargaining in the Council of Ministers, where a given Member State feels it must have a certain macro-quantity of milk production to cover its needs, is not the same as the individual freedom the farmer has to use or not use the quota allocated to him.
Jeg tilslutter mig derfor af hele mit hjerte og uden forbehold den klartsynede og modige betænkning, vi har fået forelagt, der til syvende og sidst fordømmer Sovjetunionens politik i sin helhed, og som i en både politisk og kulturel sektor af særlig betydning, foreslår hvilke midler der vil kunne bekæmpe den.
I want to say quite clearly that, in my opinion, we have to maintain a system in the Community whereby Member States negotiate about macro-situations and farmers can decide in micro-situations. That seems to me the only way to achieve a sound agricultural policy in the Community.
Man må håbe, at Det europæiske Fællesskab vil gøre det til sin pligt at bruge dem, og det af respekt for informationernes pligtlære og uden tvivl for at holde liv i håbet for de underkastede folk, både i Europa og uden for Europa, takket være en stemme fra en ver den der er fri og som har til hensigt at forblive det.
In saying that, I do not want to rule out the possibility of apply ing a Community intervention system even in a coun try which has presented major problems with respect to the total macro-extent of the quota. I am not saying that it is essential but that it must be possible, depend ing on the decisions taken by individual farmers.
Formanden. — Forhandlingen er afsluttet.
We were indeed forced to make a number of changes.
Afstemningen finder sted i næste afstemningstid.
Some of these changes are approved of by the rapporteur and others not.
Som De sandsynligvis ved, er årsagen hertil at finde i de forhold, som blev opdaget i Italien omkring 1980, da man konstaterede, at anvendelsen af diæthylstilboestroler — og nu taler jeg mit eget sprog — var et problem i forbindelse med babymad og et problem for forbrugerne af denne babymad. Dette resulterede i et forslag fra Kommissionen om at forbyde stilben på det pågældende tids punkt, og Parlamentet støttede dette forbud.
After all, we are dealing with perfectly capable adults in an emancipated society and, secondly, it is of course possible for quarterly payment of the super levy to result in a payment for one quarter and equalization in the next one — with consequent administrative disadvantages.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er be tænkning (dok.
A further problem that was quite correctly pointed out is that of the national intervention schemes.
Kommissionen har fremsat forslag om, at trenbolon og zeranol skulle forbydes, og de øvrige stoffer tillades.
I admit that at first sight it seems very strange to en able national intervention programmes to be financed from money raised as a super levy and this has been pointed out by the rapporteur.
Vi som de folkevalgte repræsentanter må lytte til, hvad offentligheden fortæller os.
I see that the rapporteur can at least understand how I came to my conclusions; I think that in political terms
Collins går ud i de store og små gader i Strasbourg i aften og spørger, om de ønsker at købe kød, der er produceret med anvendelse af hormoner, vil de enstemmigt sige »nej«.
Andriessen render the system useless, since producers who have made great efforts cannot accept their neighbours taking an easy approach.
Disse stoffer kan måske frem byde problemer, og derfor ville vi foretrække et fuld stændigt forbud mod dem undtagen i behandlingsøjemed. med.
There has been much criticism, and rightly so, of the cumulative effect to two restictive measures: since quotas now exist, the co-responsibility levy should be dropped.
Vi erkender, at der er tvivlsspørgsmål i forbindelse med anvendelsen af hormoner.
Despite the large amount of criticism — often justified — of the quotas, we have to admit that the production curve has dropped off appreciably, leading to a slight rise in milk prices.
Vi erkender, at der er tvivlsspørgsmål i forbindelse med de pågældende stoffer, og vi erkender også, at nogle af disse stoffer — de såkaldte naturlige hormoner — er lovlige i be handlingsøjemed, dvs. det er helt rimeligt, hvis man ønsker at regulere dyrenes menstruationscycklus, e\'entuelt at anvende naturlige hormoner.
Nevertheless, this has not been enough and any further development presupposes clearance of stocks — it should be recalled that 45% of the one million tonnes in stock are over 18 months old.
På lignende måde kan det ved visse produktionsformer for oksekød være helt rimeligt at anvende hormoner for at regulere dyrenes adfærd, og det er vi ikke imod.
No one likes to see things sold off cheaply, but costs are growing as the weeks pass by.
Hvad vi er imod, er anvendelse af hormoner til fremme af hurtig og efter vor opfattelse unaturlig vækst af dyre ne. Vi mener, dette betyder en vis fare for forbruge ren, og vi finder derfor, at det ville være at foretrække at ophøre hermed.
If the production and consumption curves converge we must work for better control of our purchases, and imported production must be subjected to at least the same levies as other kinds.
Dernæst må vi beskæftige os meget omhyggeligt med kontrolsystemet.
In the Community, monitoring is both an extremely difficult problem and an unavoidable duty, whether we are dealing with milk, vegetables and fruit, fish or whatever.
Med henblik herpå har vi i vor be tænkning anført det kontrolsystem, vi ønsker.
The problem is that we in the Community have still not managed to achieve clear supranational Community responsibility for verification.
Vi be klager i øvrigt meget de foranstaltninger, som Rådet har truffet i de forløbne måneder.
That is the central problem and, in my view, all other issues are subordinate to that.
Vort Parlament er betydningsfuldt, og dets standpunkt er meget betegnende og centralt for hele denne drøftelse.
What I will, of course, attempt to do is to see that optimal verification occurs within the framework of the limited means at our disposal.
Europas forbrugere, uanset hvordan man opfatter dem, ønsker ikke at købe kød, hvis der anvendes hormoner i produktionen.
Unfortunately, I have to say that I cannot see our current resources giving us any real chance to do substantially more than is now done.
Til slut må jeg sige til Dem, at stillet over for den kendsgerning, at vi har et kødbjerg på 800 0001 oksekød i Europa finder vi, at brugen af hormoner ikke ville medvirke at afvikle dette og måske tværtimod yde et betydeligt bidrag til selve forekomsten af dette lager.
I think that this should be a long-term task, primarily for the Commission but we would welcome the support of the European Parliament, to convince the Member States to accept, both judicially and by supplying resources (in the form of personnel), that wherever supranatural legislation has to be monitored, that it is essential to do this on a supranational basis.
Hvis De betragter de ændringsforslag, der er stillet til denne betænkning — der er i alt 15, og 14 af dem er stillet af mig — finder jeg det betegnende, at der ikke er stillet ændringsforslag fra resten af Parlamentet undtagen fra hr. van der Lek, som tilhører De Grønne.
If we plump for this latter aim we can arrange for better distribution of available quotas, allow new farmers to start up, prevent distortions between farmers, and ban quotas from being traded.
Jeg beklager, men man kan ikke forvente, at et medlem af De Grønne skal gå ind for kød.
The mechanisms are not inflexible, because we are talking about five successive twelve-month periods, and so we can do better from next year onwards.
Udvalget har gennemgået bevismaterialet meget om hyggeligt, og jeg må meddele Dem, at den videnskabelige ekspertkomité, som blev nedsat af Kommissionen for temmelig lang tid siden, har gennemgået bevismaterialet og endnu ikke udarbejdet et svar.
Mr Thareau (S). — (FR) Mr President, the mandate of 30 May 1980 committed the Commission, and then the Council, to take restrictive measures in certain agricultural markets.
Måske er det betegnende, fordi komiteens for mand er professor Lamming, og jeg formoder, at hvis vi skulle føres bag lyset, må det i dette særlige tilfælde være i form af uldne forklaringer. Dette er en på stand; men jeg må sige, at jeg overhovedet ikke fæster lid til den.
Some of these revolved around intervention levels and mechanisms, as was the case for beef, others involved price levels, as in the case of cereals this year, while still others centred on restrict ing production, which gave birth to the dairy quotas.
Jeg tror, professor Lamming har ledet en ansvarlig komité.
All these measures hav had a serious impact on agricultural imcome.
Til slut vil jeg sige til dem af mine irske kolleger, som har gjort sig den ulejlighed at blive her indtil nu: go raibh maith agaibh.
The Socialist Group will vote for the Woltjer report in the hope of seeing, from the end of 1985 onwards, an own-initiative report containing binding commitments for future years.
Ligesom udvalget om miljø- og sundhedsanliggender og forbrugerbeskyttelse beklager jeg i højeste grad, at det har taget så lang tid at udarbejde en konklusion. sion.
The interim report submitted by Eisso Woltjer is a hard-hitting analysis of quota application methods in the various countries.
Jeg forsvarer professor Lammings komité; men jeg synes, det er en skam, han ikke har været i stand til at fremkomme med en løsning og et synspunkt, som han kunne forelægge for Parlamentet, Kommissionen og Rådet.
Milk producers, forced to step up production in order to maintain their imcome, have not found it easy to accept a freezing of the existing situation.
Jeg er helt uenig i, at han på den ene eller anden måde skulle trække sagen i langdrag, og at komiteen skulle blokere udviklingen.
Although production volume controls were inevitable, the mechanisms chosen have not made it possible to reduce inequalities.
Eyraud (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, kære kolleger, efter kommissær Cheyssons er klæring fra for lidt siden angående Woltjer-betænk-ningen, beklager jeg lidt mindre kommissær Andriessens fravær i denne debat, særligt eftersom han har et meget større antal landmænd om sig end parlamentarikere.
Mr Früh (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, let me begin by expressing my regret at the fact that the Commissioner must leave. I fully under stand this.
Men jeg gad nok vide, hvad han vil sige til disse landmænd, om de så kommer fra Sydfrankrig eller Irland angående tørken eller angående de van skeligheder, som de irske landmænd har haft med at få høsten ind, og hvad han ville have sagt til os efter den erklæring, han gav i radioen i morges, der var en tidlig afvisningspåstand mod det forslag til beslut ning, der blev vedtaget her til morgen af Parlamentet.
I know how urgently Europe's farmers want to see the person who is to map out future agricultural policy in the form of a Green Paper. There fore, I am not blaming you, Commissioner, although you know that we postponed this report for a whole month because you were not available and had said you wanted to take part in the debate.
Jeg kunne godt have tænkt mig at stille ham det
Is it really impossible, when the Commissioner's schedule is known, to have the
De videnskabelige beviser er meget vanskelige at vurdere.
The strongest criticism is reserved for the fact that the quotas are national ones and the systems vary, being based on holdings in some cases and on producers in another.
Vi i udvalget om miljø- og sundhedsanliggender og forbrugerbeskyttelse er klar over, at for så vidt angår de naturlige hormoner er der problemer med at
Thus, the rapporteur underlines how farmers in an identical situation are treated differently, depending upon the kind of purchaser they supply or which country they are in.
Jeg vil ikke, kære kolleger, slå Dem oven i hovedet med min videnskabelige sandhed om diæthylstilboestrol, østradio 17 b, trenbolon, zeranol, progesteron, testosteron, og hvad ved jeg?
agenda altered by the Bureau or the administration, or whatever, so that we can start dealing with the report at 15.00 an then listen to the Commissioner at our ease after he has had a chance to hear the various speakers and Groups?
Vi bør også fordømme, hvad der forekommermig at være hul i hovedet, nemlig det faktum, at på et tids punkt hvor vore kødlagre er fyldt til bristepunktet, skal vi da acceptere anvendelsen af stoffer, der bidrager til at øge produktionen og dermed lagrene, endnu mere?
This is the only way for Parliament and Commission to have a sensible discussion and to avoid any ambiguities. I deeply regret what has happened, and I would like to appeal to our President to make sure that it doesn't happen again in future.
Hvor er logikken?
The next report didn't have to be included in the night session!
Jeg vil blot sige Dem, at der hersker tvivl, selv om de harmoner der kaldes naturlige, hvad angår deres uskadelighed.
As far as I know, it was one Minister in particular who fought a long hard battle for this regulation, and who was out on a limb for a long time, but he had his way in the end.
Ethvert ekspertudsagn kan bestrides af et andet, helet danner en lærd spiral uden enden.
Perhaps you are thinking: 'This regulation is being praised because, although it hurts, it did have positive results.'
Tvivlen kunne i sig selv udgøre en grund til forbud af de pågældende substanser, naturlige som kunstige, men at udarbejde forordninger på grundlag af det faktum at vi i øjeblikket intet kan gøre, er efter min mening nytteløst.
May be you should see to it that in other circumstances, e.g. when grain is involved, this Minister's views are looked at more clearly before simply moving on to the agenda, thinking: 'Well, what's the worst that can happen? Eight to two, or nine to one or whatever; I'll survive.'
Men Rådet har allerede ved første be handling rationeret budgetlinje 38.1 angående anvendelsen af og kontrollen med direktiver om veterinærspørgsmål.
This is why it has only turned out to be an interim report, mainly because we did not have all the documents.
Hvis udførelsen af allerede fastsatte aktioner står på spil, hvad vil der så ikke ske med fremtidige kontrolforanstaltninger?
I mention this because there has been criticism in my Group, in particular, of the report's interim nature.
Tillad mig derfor at dreje debatten over på to andre områder: kvalitet og økonomi, hvor forbrugernes in teresser går hånd i hånd med producenternes, som for øvrigt er bidragydere.
However, I do not think it was possible to pro duce a full report in such a short space of time.
Den bedste løsning ville uden tvivl være et ganske enkelt forbud mod fabrikation af hormoner, undtagen selvfølgelig til terapeutiske formål. Det ville være realistisk, enkelt og effektivt.
That's something I would just ask you to note, Commissioner, because I really believe you when you say you want to knock European agricultural policy into shape, something which has not been done for years and years.
Det ville uden tvivl få for brugerens tilslutning, men man må være klar over, at der stadig er brug for hormoner til terapeutiske for mål, derfor er det nødvendigt at præcisere en sådan tekst.
I admit quite openly that we have a problem in our Group, where many are saying: 'You can't have quotas plus co-responsibility, this is just senseless duplication.
Kvaliteten først.
We must change the situation.'
Det første resultat af anvendelsen af hormoner er ubestrideligt, at forbrugeren snydes, for han køber vand til kødpris, blev dette køb gjort til en lavere pris end normalt?
You yourself have suggested dismantling co-responsibility on a differential basis one day That's something we would be only too happy to accept.
Sagen er alvorlig, det drejer sig om en loyal handel, om forbrugerens tillid til producenten.
This could be done on the basis of holding size, lessfavoured regions, mountain areas etc.
Kalveboykotten i de fleste medlems lande, og særlig i Frankrig, viste hvilken økonomisk betydning en sådan kampagne kan have.
I hope that in your ingenuity you come up with the correct solution, and that you don't measure everything by the same standards, so that dissatisfaction with this agricultural policy does not grow any further.
I al fald er en harmonisering af medlemslandenes lovgivninger, for at undgå svig og illoyal konkurrence, tvingende nødvendig.
So far — in the case of milk in particular, but for many other products, too — we have always tried to find some way of curbing overproduction.
Hindringerne for den frie bevægelse af kød på det indre marked, der skyldes de forskellige lovgivninger, virker overordentlig forstyrrende på markedet, og det er landmændene der kom mer til at betale for det.
For years all we had was the co-responsibility levy; we were never really quite serious, acting according to the slogan: wash my skin but don't get me wet!
Noteringerne for magre dyr falder uden at forbrugerpriserne på fedekvæg falder tilsvarende.
This was doomed to fail because farmers are clever people who know all about life.
I virkeligheden er en klar og objektiv information både af forbrugeren såvel som af landmanden uundværlig.
They knew that a regulation would be forthcoming at some time, and they wanted to be in a good starting position.
Den skal indeholde en angivelse af produktionsmetoderne, og anvendelsen af kvalitetsmærker må fremmes, sådan at køberen på et hvilket som helst tidspunkt kan have en idé om forholdet mellem kvalitet og pris.
Since we made it easy for them to push up milk production — regardless of acreage — by the use of feed substitutes, that is what they did, causing us great difficulties until this solution came along, which was probably the last chance to hold back production in the dairy sector.
Jeg må tilføje, at fællesskabsforanstaltningerne lige meget af hvilken art bør anvendes på import fra tredjelande.
Not least of all I would also like to thank the national authorities which did not let us down.
Mertens (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, ærede kolleger, jeg bliver nødt til i begyndelsen af redegørelsen, som jeg fremlægger på min gruppes vegne, at fastslå en ting, nemlig at hormoner er enormt vigtige stoffer, at de hører til et enormt vigtigt styringssystem i det menneskelige legeme.
The Community is made up of ten countries, some of which have a milk deficit while others have a surplus, and this makes thins extremely difficult, not only for the countries as such but also for the individual hold ings which were in various predicaments.
Det understreger ikke blot vigtig heden af hormonbalancen men er også en positiv udtalelse.
But there were also genuine cases of hardship where things started badly: for example 1981, when we started out, was a bad year, the head of the holding became ill, and so on and so forth.
Hvad angår økonomien ville et alment forbud mod væksthormoner sikkerk medføre en forhøjelse af kødprisen.
Then we had the young farmers who, needless to say, wanted the prospect of being able to further develop their holdings.
Nu er der to måder at betragte dette på.
You all know that the agenda is drawn up in advance by the
På den anden side må man konstatere, at mange mennesker i mellemtiden gennem erfaring er kommet i en art psykose og betragter hormoner som noget absolut dårligt. ligt.
You also know that before the start of each part-session the group chairmen get together on Monday with the President, Mr Pflimlin, in order to consider what has come out of the groups'preliminary meetings, and you also know that in the final analysis the House has the last say.
hertil og sige, at »vi jo ikke opdrætter tyre men stude i Irland«. Der er en gradsforskel, som enhver ved, og denne ringe forskel har dog immervæk noget at gøre med hormonbalancen.
Secondly, my group wants to see a system of quota transfer, not just to help the smaller producer but also to prevent stagnation in an important industry which is stuck at the moment in the time warp of 1981 or 1983 production figures.
Denne kendsgerning beskæftigede Parlamentet og Ministerrådet sig med i 1981, blot har Ministerrådet ikke været konsekvent nok.
We decided on the order of this agenda all together, and there should be no criticism of the President after the event.
Nogle har atter tilladt hormoner, andre derimod har opretholdt forbuddet.
I am quite happy to give you a chance to speak in reply, but things are as I have explained them.
Det har så atter ført til, at der er forekommet uregelmæssigheder eller nærmere betegnet skandaler.
There are a number of amendments which my group wiil support this afternoon to provide further guidance to the Commissioner in his work.
En sådan skandale i større omfang var der for nogle måneder siden i Belgien, og da blev også luxembourgerne inddraget, fordi det store depot lå i Luxembourg. Også i Nordtyskland var der for kort tid siden lignende episoder.
I am particularly sorry that the authors of some of those amendments are not present this afternoon, especially from the benches opposite.
Vi vil ikke have, at folk bliver usikre, vi vil ikke have, at de ikke har nogen appetit på maden mere.
Mr Früh (PPE). — (DE) No rebuke was intended, Mr President, and I only wanted to make an appeal to you.
Det har vi taget højde for.
That was simply my question.
Derfor siger vi, at vi hverken vil have naturlige eller kunstige hormoner.
President. — The circumstances are now as they are, but your statement is noted.
Hvad vil jeg så sige med det: menneskene har lært disse ting at kende og er bange for, at disse hormoner får en negativ virkning på kødet.
Likewise, we believe that national measures have already been taken to assist many smaller and dis tressed producers to help them get back to pre-quota production levels.