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Minister de Koning har fuldt kendskab til hr. Fitz-Geralds skrivelse, der i mellemtiden har været gen stand for en drøftelse i gruppen for sociale anliggender under Rådet, der inden længe vil føre en drøftelse herom.
The only thing I can do is to bring the report of proceedings of this Question Time to the attention of the country to which you refer.
Seligman (ED). — (EN) Er rådsformanden klar over, at der er noget i retning af 100 000 husvilde børn, der strejfer rund i Europas gader? De kaldes vist »street children«, og de lever under broer og på diverse andre uacceptable steder.
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) I believe the honourable Member is aware that all the Member States of the Community are parties to the European Treaty on Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms, and that that treaty contains an appeals procedure in the event of violations of such rights and freedoms.
Vil han samtidig med, at han drøfter de husvilde ældre, bede Socialministerrådet om at drøfte de husvilde børn og unge?
In addition, I can in a personal capacity, but not as President-in-Office of the Council, take note of the honourable Member's request.
Boutos (RDE). — (GR) Hr. formand, dette er ikke et tillægsspørgsmål, men til forretningsorden.
President. — Question No 77 by Mr Tzounis (H1045/85):
Jeg ved ikke præcis, hvad det var; det forekom til en vis grad at være til forretningsordenen, selv om det heller ikke helt var tilfældet. Jeg kan kun
Is the Council aware of Amnesty International's latest report on torture in Turkey and does it share the view that such an informative and important document should be taken seriously
Van Eekelen. — (NL) Det svar, som jeg gav i første omgang, var meget generelt og vedrørte alle husvilde i Fællesskabet. Jeg vil også kunne henvise til, at 1986budgettet indeholder en post med et p.m. : » særforanstaltninger for husvilde«, der heller ikke er begrænset til visse aldersgrupper.
Mr Habsburg (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, although your first answer was very satisfactory, I would just like to ask you the following questions, since Mr Cryer brought these points up again: Would the refusal to employ a burglar as a night watchman also count as 'Berufsverbot'?
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 79 af Giannakou-Kout-sikou (H-1046-85):
President into account in all future dealings with the Turkish Government?
Kan Rådet oplyse, hvilke medlemsstater der endnu ikke har ratificeret Wienerkonventionen af 1971 om psykofarmaka, samt årsagerne til denne forsinkelse?
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) Parliament is an equal partner in the budget authority, and Parliament's position on that point is one that we look forward to with interest in the discussions on the budget.
Van Eekelen, formand for Rådet. — (NL) Følgende medlemsstater har endnu ikke ratificeret Wienerkonventionen af 1971 om psykofarmaka: Belgien, Irland, Luxembourg og Nederlandene.
Mr Van Eekelen, President-in-Office of the Council. — (NL) As the Netherlands Foreign Affairs Minister stated last month, the honourable Member can be given the assurance that the Council attaches particular importance to the recent debate in this House on relations with Turkey, in which various Members of Parliament expressed their concern at the observance of human rights in that country.
Rådet er ikke i stand til at oplyse, hvorfor disse medlemsstater end nu ikke har ratificeret denne konvention.
Mr Wedekind (PPE). — (DE) Mr President of the Council, I would like to ask you whether you are familiar with the resolutions of the Council of Europe which definitely establish that there is no torture in Turkey and that all these almost pathological accusations the Greeks keep making here in the European Parliament do not agree with the facts?
græske statsborgere og deres formuegoder er blevet behandlet i Rådets organer under drøftelserne om den tilpasningsprotokol til Ankara-aftalen, der skal indgås med Tyrkiet som følge af Grækenlands tiltrædelse af Fællesskabet.
In anticipation of a gradual normalization of relations with Turkey and of the meeting of the EEC/Turkey Association Council early next year, the Council agreed to follow closely the development of the situation in Turkey as regards observance of human rights and calls for a return to democracy.
Ved denne lejlighed blev det spørgsmål rejst, om ikke denne forskelsbehandling er uforenelig med Ankara-aftalen, herunder navnlig artikel 58 i tillægsprotokollen til denne aftale.
I can also give a firm assurance that the Council takes all available information into account, including the Amnesty International reports to which Mr Tzounis referred.
I denne artikel hedder det, at inden for de af tillægsprotokollen dækkede områder må de regler, som Tyrkiet anvender over for Fællesskabet, ikke føre til no gen forskelsbehandling af medlemsstaterne, disses statsborgere eller selskaber.
Is the Council also aware that the Turkish constitution expressly punishes all forms of torture and that the UN Human Rights Commission decided by thirty votes to four no longer to consider the kind of Greek accusation which is being made so absurdly again today in the European Parlament?
Giannakou-Koutsikou (PPE). - (GR) Hvis Rådet ikke er i stand til at oplyse, af hvilke grunde med lemsstaterne har valgt at føre denne form for politik, tror jeg ikke, jeg har noget tillægsspørgsmål at stille.
And is the Council aware that aid for Turkey benefits the Turkish people and not the government as the Greeks suggest, because that is obviously the case in Greece?
Jeg be klager imidlertid, at jeg ikke fik noget fyldestgørende svar. Problemet ligger ikke i, hvorvidt det konkrete spørgsmål vil blive løst ved behandlingen af den til pasningsprotokol, som vil blive undertegnet med Tyrkiet på grund af Grækenlands optagelse i Fælles skabet.
The point is to what extent the Council will take account of the human rights violations to which attention has been drawn not only in this Chamber but subsequently by Amnesty International and also very recently by the Council of Europe's rapporteur, Mr Stoffelen.
Van Eekelen. — (NL) Jeg vil ikke gerne skuffe fru Giannakou-Koutsikou og vil i hvert fald forsikre hen de om, at det spørgeskema, som hun om delte i december, er blevet drøftet, og at diverse regeringer hver især har besluttet at svare på dette spørgeskema. Formandskabet agter imidlertid på et senere tids punkt at tilrettelægge en drøftelse herom i gruppen for folkesundhed.
And the question is to what extent Turkey's coming into line with the civilized norms of the international community and with respect for human rights will not be regarded as a pre-condition for the revival of relations with that country.
Spørgsmål nr. 80 af Boutos (H-
Unfortunately I have not had a reply on this.
Om : Beslaglæggelse af formuer tilhørende grækere i Istanbul
The Council continues to place great importance on the question of adherence to human rights everywhere in the world, and in particular in a country such as Turkey that has close ties with the Community.
Problemet og mit spørgsmål drejer sig om: Hvilke konkrete handlinger og aktiviteter agter Rådet at iværksætte med henblik på at få fjernet hindringerne, således at man i stedet kan skabe de rette betingelser for undertegnelsen af denne tillægsprotokol?
For the rest, I would also refer to the answer to the question by Mr Ephremidis at last month's partsession.
Van Eekelen. — (NL) Rådet er klar over bekymring erne på dette punkt.
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) Mr Tzounis is now putting his original question in a rather different form.
Formandskabet har pålagt Ne derlandenes ambassadør i Ankara at optage kontakt med de tyrkiske myndigheder for at gøre dem be kendt med Fællesskabets bekymringer og ligeledes for at anmode om en forklaring på de diskriminerende foranstaltninger over for de græske statsborgere.
In the document I have before me, the question relates only to whether we are giving serious consideration to, in particular, the reports by Amnesty International, and on that point my original answer was in the affirmative. tive.
På grundlag af afgørelser fra den dømmende magt i Tyrkiet — på alle niveauer helt op til den højeste domstol — udsættes det græske mindretal (grækere og tyrkere af græsk afstamning) for en veritabel udplyndring.
As regards the situation to which he now refers, I can also state that the Council decided last Monday to place the whole question of relations with Turkey on the agenda of the June meeting, and subsequently to fix a date for convening the Association Council.
Hvad vil Rådet gøre for at sikre, at disse grækeres rettigheder respekteres, og at foranstaltningerne for beslaglæggelse af deres ejendom standses, og hvad har det til hensigt at gøre for at standse tilintetgørelsen af det græske mindretal, der udsættes for konsekvent forfølgelse af deres religiøse, kulturelle og per sonlige frihed?
Mr Adamou (COM). — (GR) In a letter to the Presi dent of the Council and the President of Parliament on 17 April the Commission requested the release of 10 million ECU for special financial aid to General Evren's Turkey.
Van Eekelen, formand for Rådet. — (NL) De tyrkiske myndigheders diskriminerende holdning over for
Futhermore, with the same line of thinking, the 1987 budget provides for huge increases in the aid appropriations for Turkey.
Wedekind (PPE). — (DE) Er det rådsformanden be kendt, at der i Tyrkiet findes love om erhvervelse af fast ejendom, der principielt gælder for alle udlændinge, og som begrænser udlændinges besiddelse af fast ejendom, og at dette ikke er en diskriminering mod grækere, men — om De vil — en diskriminering mod udlændinge?
Mr Boutos (RDE). — (GR) This is not a supplementary, Mr President, but an observation about the implementation of our Rules of Procedure. Mr Wedekind continues to insist that issues which touch on the relations between Europe, Greece and Turkey are are brought up because of, as he tells us, a pathological initiative on the part of the Greek Members.
Rogalla (S). — (DE) Jeg vil gerne takke rådsformanden for disse personlige ord.
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) My original answer to the question was couched in general terms and applies to all the homeless in the Community.
Jeg vil gerne spørge ham, om han er enig med mig i, at artikel 3, litra c. i EØF-traktaten burde føre til tilsvarende foranstaltninger fra Kommissionens side, såfremt den af mig her bebudede opstilling af disse apparater finder sted?
I would also refer you to the fact that the budget for 1986 contains a token entry for specific measures for the homeless, and that this is not confined to any particular agegroup.
Er han ligesom jeg af den opfattelse, at retskraften og indholdet af artikel 5 i EØF-traktaten, nemlig kravet om EF-troskab, stadig undervurderes i vort Fællesskab, endog muligvis afalle medlemsstater?
Is the Council aware of the report and recommendations contained in the report 'Homelessness in the European Community' which was published in January 1986 and linking this with the existence now of a new budgetary line 6461 with a P.M. entry will the Council make a statement of the matter?
altså visse former for fast ejendom i Grækenland ikke kan erhverves af udlændinge?
It will be for the Commission in the first instance to deter mine what conclusions, if any, should be drawn from that report with a view to formulating proposals, in particular proposals in a budgetary context.
Dette er en diskriminering mod EF-borgere.
The Council is not in a position to state for what reasons these Member States have not yet ratified this convention.
Er det endvidere Rådet be kendt, at de græske myndigheder ikke kun over for de tyrker, der ikke bor i Grækenland og derfor ikke kan erhverve fast ejendom, men også over for græske statsborgere i Trakien, der tilhører den muslimske tro og taler græsk, træffer diskriminerende foranstaltning er for at forhindre dem i at leve på deres jordbesiddelse, som de har haft i århundreder, eller erhverve fast ejendom?
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) I would prefer not to leave Mrs Giannakou-Koutsikou in a state of disappointment, and I can at all events assure her that the list of questions she circulated in December has been considered and that various governments have, independently of each other, agreed to answer these questions. The Presidency for its part intends to organize an exchange of views on these matters in the working party on Public Health at a later stage.
Er det egentlig Rådet bekendt, at den græske regering til stadighed afviser direkte forhandlinger om disse problemer mellem Tyrkiet og Grækenland med fjollede, overfladiske argumenter?
The minister, Mr de Koning, is fully aware of the letter from Mr Fitzgerald, which has meanwhile been the subject of consultations in the Social Affairs working party in the Council, which will shortly hold an exchange of views on this subject.
Man burde dog egentlig meget hurtigt kunne løse dem alle blandt naboer.
How ever, I regret that his reply to me was unsatisfactory.
Rådet har endnu ikke fundet det hensigtsmæssigt at komme med en udtalelse om fordelene ved de forskellige kontrolmetoder og -teknikker.
That is discrimination against EEC citizens. And is the Council aware that the Greek authorities take discriminatory measures not only against Turks who do not live in Greece and therefore cannot buy any land but also against Greek nationals in Thrace who are Moslems and speak Greek, in order to prevent them from living or buying land on the estates which they have owned for centuries?
I øvrigt vil jeg omend noget mere specifikt gentage, at i henhold til artikel 169 påhviler det Kommissionen at bedømme, om en medlemsstat ikke overholder de forpligtelser, der påhviler den.
In that article it is stipulated that in respect of areas falling under that protocol, rules and regulations implemented by Turkey in relation to the Community must not give rise to any form of discrimination as between Member States, their nationals or companies.
Formanden. — Hr. Wedekind, jeg har lidt svært ved at betragte dette som et tillægsspørgsmål til spørgsmål nr. 80, da De her har berørt et andet emne.
President. — Mr Wedekind, the fact that you have raised another subject altogether makes it more diffi cult for me to regard your question as a supplementary to Question No 80.
Jeg vil ikke desto mindre spørge rådsformanden, om han ser sig i stand til at reagere på det.
Nevertheless, I will ask the Presi dent-in-Office of the Council if he is prepared to reply.
Habsburg (PPE). - (DE) Hr. rådsformand, har De ikke også det indtryk, at disse såkaldte kontrollettelser egentlig ikke er andet end et forsøg på at omgå det, som vi er blevet lovet — ligesom det var tilfældet med E-mærkaten, der i dag undertiden giver anledning til større besvær, end det tidligere var tilfældet?
Mr Boutos (RDE). — (GR) I thank the President-in-Office of the Council for accepting that a real problem of protecting the rights of the Greek and Greek-
Er De rede til at minde alle EF-regeringerne om, at de må holde ord?
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) Mr President, with some difficulty, because Mr Boutos's question concerned
Van Eekelen. — (NL) Det er lidt svært, hr. formand, for hr. Boutos' spørgsmål vedrørte foranstaltninger til beslaglæggelse af formuer tilhørende grækere i Istanbul.
measures for the confiscation of the property of Greeks in Istanbul.
Hvad angår de andre spørgsmål, er jeg tilbøjelig til at sige, at jeg ikke er ejendomsmægler, men bortset derfra kan jeg forsikre, at også jeg er af den mening, at det er i Grækenlands interesse, at denne tiltrædelsesprotokol til sidst undertegnes.
Where the other questions are con cerned, I am inclined to say that I am not an agent in immovable property, but be that as it may, I can cer tainly give an assurance that I also take the view that it will be in the Greek interest for this accession protocol eventually to be signed.
Spørgsmål nr. 81 af Rogalla (H-
Question No 81 by Mr Rogalla (H-
Om : Legitimationskort og/eller europæiske pas
Subject: Identity cards and/or European passports
Van Eekelen. — (NL) Det indtryk har jeg ikke.
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) I do not have that impression.
Jeg tror, at alle Fællesskabets medlemsstater bestræber sig på at lette grænseovergangen for almindelige rejsende i Fællesskabet mest muligt.
I believe that all Member States of the Com munity are seriously concerned to facilitate frontier crossings for bona fide travellers in the Community as greatly as possible.
Vi vil også i Rådet for det interne marked i næste måned på ny forsøge at træffe en EF-afgørelse herom i tilslutning til og til fuldendelse af det, der nu allerede sket på mellem statslig plan mellem et lille antal medlemsstater.
We shall also make renewed efforts in the Internal Market Council next month to ensure a joint decision on this aspect, as a follow-up and con clusion to what already applies between a small number of Member States at intergovernmental level.
Deler Rådet den opfattelse, at opstillingen af 400 apparater til kontrol af elektronisk læsbare legitimationskort og/eller euro pæiske pas ved EFs indre grænser er i overensstemmelse med EØF-traktatens artikel 2, stk. 3, litra c, samt artikel 5, stk. 2, samt at dette skridt vil drage Tysklands EF-loyalitet i tvivl, og påtænker Rådet at skride ind mod Tyskland på egnet måde eller i medfør af EØF-traktatens artikel 169 og i givet fald hvorfor ikke?
Does the Council share my view that the introduction of 400 optical readers to process machinereadable identity cards and/or European passports at the Community's internal frontiers is a violation of Articles 2, 3(c) and 5(2) of the EEC Treaty and casts doubt on the Federal Republic of Germany's loyalty to the spirit and the letter of the Treaties and does the Council intend to take appropriate action against the Federal Republic, possibly pursuant to Article 169 of the EEC Treaty, and if not, why not?
Van Bekelen, formand for Rådet. — (NL) Rådet ser generelt med tilfredshed på enhver udvikling, der gør det lettere at passere Fællesskabets indre grænser.
Mr Van Eekelen, President-in-Office of the Council. — (NL) In general, the Council welcomes any develop ment that facilitates the crossing of the internal frontiers of the Community.
For så vidt angår det særlige tilfælde, som det ærede med lem omtaler, er det Kommissionen, der skal påse, at de forpligtelser, der følger af traktaten, bliver over holdt.
May I add in a personal capacity that I have the greatest admiration for the manner in which Mr Rogalla endeavours to secure the removal of obstacles in every area where they remain to be overcome in Europe.
Raftery (PPE). — (EN) Jeg glædede mig over rådsformandens svar med hensyn til at gøre det lettere at rejse i EF.
Mr Raftery (PPE). — I am encouraged by the Presi-dent-in-Office's answer with regard to the easing of intra-Community travel.
Jeg vil dog gerne spørge ham, om han er klar over, at de belgiske myndigheder for nylig er begyndt at stemple pas i lufthavnen i Bruxelles?
However, I should like to ask him if he is aware that recently the Belgian authorities have begun the practice of stamping passports at Brussels airport.
For nogen tid siden forelagde jeg denne sag for den britiske regering, da jeg havde modtaget et svar fra Kom missionen om, at stempling af pas var en formalitet, der ikke længere var tilladt.
Some time ago I took this matter up with the British Government, having received an answer from the Commission that the stamping of passports was a formality that was no longer permitted.
Derefter modtog jeg til min glæde et meget høfligt brev fra den britiske ambassadør, der sagde, at denne praksis ville ophøre, og den ophørte faktisk i Londons lufthavn.
Subsequently, I am happy to say, I received a very courteous letter from the British Ambassador saying that the practice would cease, and it did cease at London Air port.
Er rådsformanden klar over, at de nu er startet med det i Bruxelles, og hvad agter han at gøre ved det?
Is the President-in-Office aware that it has now started in Brussels, and what does he intend to do about it?
Må jeg personligt tilføje, at jeg nærer stor beundring for den måde, hvorpå hr. Rogalla på alle områder forsøger at fjerne de hindringer, der stadig findes i Europa.
Does he share my view that the legal force and the content of Article 5, i.e. the call for loyalty to the Community, is still being underestimated in our Community and perhaps even by all the Member States?
Van Eekelen. — (NL) Det var jeg ikke klar over. men bortset fra det tror jeg, at det er en sag, der i første instans henhører under Kommissionen der, såfremt den finder klagen berettiget, må reagere på den.
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) The German delegation has confirmed that the introduction of these appliances is part of an effort to facilitate and speed up frontier checks. The Council has still not considered it appropriate to hold a discussion on the advantages of the various control methods and techniques.
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Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 82 af Wijsenbeek (H1/86/ændr.):
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) I am not sure whether to answer yes or no to being addressed as 'comrade' by the honourable Member, but perhaps he did not intend that to apply to myself.
Kan Rådets formand oplyse, om den europæiske fælles akt fra regeringskonferencen i Luxembourg (december 1985) sætter den aftale mellem medlemsstaterne ud af kraft, som blev ind gået i Luxembourg den 29. januar 1966 (')?
Firstly, the so-called Luxembourg compromise was called, in English, an 'agreement to disagree', and secondly I have the impression that this is an internal British problem.
Van Eekelen, formand for Rådet. — (NL) Konklusionerne fra Rådets ekstraordinære samling den 17., 18., 27. og 28. januar 1966 i Luxembourg blev ikke omtalt under regeringskonferencen, der med hensyn til EF-spørgsmål kun vedrørte eventuelle ændringer i traktaterne om oprettelse af De europæiske Fællesskaber.
Mr Van Eekelen, President-in-Office of the Council. — (NL) The conclusions of the extraordinary sitting of the Council that was held of 17, 18, 27 and 28 January 1966 in Luxembourg were not on the agenda of the Inter-Governmental Conference.
Van Eekelen. — (NL) Jeg ved ikke, om jeg skal sige ja eller nej til det ærede medlems tiltale med kammerat, men måske gjaldt det ikke mig. Men bortset fra det tror jeg, at jeg må svare på to punkter.
As regards the Com munity questions, this conference dealt only with pos sible changes to the Treaties establishing the European Communities.
Formanden. — Da spørgeren ikke er til stede, vil spørgsmål nr. 83 blive besvaret skriftligt (O·
President. — Since the author is not present, Question No 83 will be answered in writing.'
Da de følgende spørgsmål vedrører samme emne, vil vi under ét behandle spørgsmål nr. 84 af Hutton (H824/85):
Question No 84 by Mr Hutton (H-824/85):
Om : Gennemførelse af Domstolens dom i transportsagen
This means therefore that some of them could still try to apply a veto.
Det betyder således, at visse lande stadig skal kunne anmode om et veto.
Subject: Implementation of Court judgment in transport case
Hvilke foranstaltninger har Rådet iværksat efter De europæiske Fællesskabers Domstols dom i sag 13/83 for at råde bod på dets tilsidesættelse af de traktatretlige bestemmelser om fri adgang til at tilbyde international transport og de betingelser, hvorunder udenlandske vognmænd kan drive transportvirksomhed i en medlemsstat, og på hvilket tidspunkt vil Rådet have truffet samtlige foranstaltninger, der er nødvendige for iagttagelse af Domstolens dom?
What action has the Council taken, following the * judgment of the European Court of Justice in Case 13/83, to make good its infringements of the Treaty in regard to freedom to provide services regarding international transport and the conditions under which non-resident carriers may operate transport services within a Member State and by what date will the Council have taken all the action necessary to comply with the Court's judgement?
og spørgsmål nr. 92 af Newton Dunn (H-63-86) :
Question No 92 by Mr Newton Dunn (H-63/86):
Om : Beslutningsprocessen i Rådet af transportministre
Subject: Decision-making in the Transport Coun cil