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Det anbefalede Pointe Saline som det ideelle sted for en lufthavn, som skulle erstatte den lille lufthavn i Pearls. I juli 1960 nedsatte det ikke længere eksisterende Federal Government of the West Indies en kommission for civil luftfart, som anbefalede, at arbejdet ved Pointe Saline »be started as soon as possible«.
In view of the international situation, it is obvious that such a development would be extremely undesirable.
Pisani, medlem af Kommissionen. — (FR) Kommissionen har lige fra begyndelsen — i det mindste så snart den modtog anmodninger herom — støttet opførelse af lufthavne til turistformål på øerne i Vest indien.
Mr Bord (DEP). — (FR) I should like to thank the Commissioner for his particularly interesting, not to say very important, reply.
Dette er sket på flere øer, og Kommissionen havde ingen grund til — i hvert fald ikke i begyndelsen efter at have behandlet anmodningen — at afslå støtte til Grenada.
But perhaps I may be allowed to put to him a supplementary question because, as this House has seen, there are many who deplore, condemn even, what they regard as the irresponsible forcing up of the dollar.
Grenada har store turistmuligheder, og den lufthavn, som skulle opføres, var nødvendig, hvis der skulle kunne lande fly af typen Boeing 747.
Whilst it is certainly true that, as far as our own economies are concerned, a strong dollar has certain adverse effects, it is no less true that any substantial weakening of the dollar would entail — automatically, I fear — a significant rise in the mark.
Virkeligheden bekræftede, at opførelsen af denne lufthavn gav mulighed for udvikling af turismen, eftersom der på tre år var sket en markant forøgelse af turistinvesteringerne.
Would not such a rise force a number of Community countries, France in particular, to withdraw from the EMS ?
Bortset fra de specifikke franske aspekter af det rejste spørgsmål tror jeg derfor ikke, at man bør opholde sig ret meget længere ved dette spørgsmål, især ikke i dag.
Could the Commission outline the consequences for the Community of the withdrawal of one of the Member States from the European Monetary System ?
Simpson (ED). — (EN) Jeg kritiserer ikke Kommissionen for at have undladt at undersøge, hvem der opførte lufthavnen, eller hvem der leverede materialerne; men burde Kommissionen ikke have foretaget en vis kontrol med størrelsen af denne lufthavn?
Mr Andriessen. — (NL) I believe that speculation on trends in currencies and their value in international transactions in public assemblies such as this one is in itself a dangerous element as regards the possible implications of such a trend.
Det forekommer mig noget naivt at sige, at det forhold, at den ikke var beskyttet, ikke foruroligede Kommissionen.
I say this not so much in my present capacity but from my experience in a position I occupied earlier in my political career.
Mener kommissæren, at der skulle have været antiluftsskyts i de oprindelige planer?
I shall therefore refrain from saying what precisely would be the consequences of substantial changes in the parity of the dollar and the implications they would have for the European Monetary System.
Var Kommissionen ikke en smule godtroende, og burde den ikke i højere grad tage hensyn til de politiske realiteter i verden?
All I will say is this : I am firmly convinced that, from the time the EMS came into being, the changes in parities in the Community have been less pronounced than they would have been if the EMS had not been established, despite the fluctuations there have been in currencies outside the system.
Pisani. — (FR) Jeg er en gammel statens tjener, og forestillingen om min forgængers gerninger er mig fremmed.
Mr Provan (ED). — I am sure nobody wants to contemplate a weakening of the EMS by the with drawal of any currency.
Der findes en kommissær for udvikling, en Kommission, som er den samme, ansvarlig for samme områder og ansvarlig på samme måde for de instanser, som skal kontrollere den.
Can you give us any indication as to what the likely consequences would be for MCAs if all currencies of the European Community were members of EMS ?
Pisani. — (FR) Jeg har ligesom det ærede medlem i aviserne læst, at de grenadinske forsvarsstyrker udgjorde to mortérer, sytten tunge maskingeværer og 330 geværer, og man måtte faktisk skælve ved tanken om, at De forenede Stater i denne region var truet af sådanne våben.
Mr Papaefstratiou (PPE). — (GR) I have listened to the informative reply of Commissioner Contogeorgis with satisfaction, given that the Commission has already made protests. My question remains, however.
Kommissionen har tidligere taget stilling til dette emne og truffet afgørelser, som den bekræfter i dag. Hvorledes skulle den kunne gøre anderledes?
Mr Andriessen. — (NL). — I cannot help thinking that this is less a question for me than for the Commissioner responsible for agriculture, who is sitting behind me.
For det tredje ved jeg blot én ting, nemlig at lufthavnen i de sidste to måneder har tjent militære formål.
I believe that if all the currencies — or at least all the really important currencies — in the Community belonged to the EMS, the fluctuations in these currencies would be less pronounced than they are now and that this would therefore have a stabilizing effect on the development of the MCAs.
Når dette er sagt, vil jeg på hr. Seefelds meget præcise spørgsmål svare, at jeg yderst objektivt ikke ser noget teknisk eller væsentligt element, som giver mulighed for at sige, at denne lufthavn var bestemt for militære formål, eller at man beredte sig på at anvende den til militært brug.
And why, therefore, given that the imposition of this exorbitant charge seriously affects the transport of goods between Member States of the Community, is the Commission reluctant to recommend the taking of counter measures against Austria as it did against Yugoslavia when that country took a similar decision some months ago ?
Jeg er helt overbevist om, at man har indtaget en politisk holdning til noget, som tog sigte på turisme.
President. — Question No 2, by Mr Papaefstratiou (H-522/83) :
Habsburg (PPE). — (DE) Hr. kommissær, De vil sikkert kunne huske, at vi tidligere har stillet Dem spørgsmål vedrørende denne lufthavn, da vi havde informationer om, hvad det virkelig var man plan lagde her.
Mr Contogeorgis. — (GR) I would like to restate the fact that we are at this time engaged in negotiations with Austria in respect of our transport sector relations taken overall.
De nuværende oplysninger er i modstrid med, hvad De nu siger.
The charges levied on vehicles in transit are an aspect of these relations.
Pisani. — (FR) Jeg kan ikke forstå det ærede medlems synspunkt eller spørgsmål. Det forekommer mig, at jeg klart oplyste, at hvis denne lufthavn subsidiært kunne bruges til militære formål, så var den imidlertid ikke udstyret hertil.
In view of the fact that the Austrian Government, following Yugoslavia's example, has now also announced an increase of 50 % from January 1984 in the special road-transit charge paid by goods vehicles crossing Austrian territory, what really forceful measures does the Commission propose to take to secure the withdrawal of this unwarranted decision, which directly affects Greece and the other EEC countries in respect of the transport costs of their products ?
Moreland (ED). — (EN) Måske jeg skulle indlede mit spørgsmål med at sige, at jeg for ca. ni dage siden aflagde besøg i lufthavnen i Pointe Saline.
Mr Nyborg (DEP). — (DA) I should like to ask the Commission whether it has considered negotiations with Austria ?
Jeg troede ikke, at det vigtige spørgsmål vedrørte de historiske kendsgerninger, dvs. om den var militær eller ikkemilitær, men om hvad Kommissionen nu agtede at gøre.
It is easy to say that Austria has failed to do such and such, but is there any intention of giving anything in return ?
Måske er Kommissionen ikke klar over, at lufthavnen stort set er færdig, og at landingsbanen er klar. Man kunne diskutere vurderingen af de historiske kendsgerninger.
So far as I know, there are special charges on motorways in Italy applying equally to Austrian transportation, goods vehicles, passenger cars etc.
Lad dette være, men for øjeblikket anvendes de fleste EUF-forpligtelser til øen som helhed ikke.
There are thus charges in other places.
Der er en general opfattelse fra alle politiske sider om, at det nu ville være en glimrende ting for Fællesskabet, hvis det deltog i færdiggørelsen af lufthavnen.
Are there plans to negotiate with the Italian and German Governments with a view to reducing or abolishing these charges in return for the Austrians giving up theirs ?
Der var ikke noget beskyttelsessystem for kontrolanlæggene eller brændstofreserver, som kunne mulig gøre optankning af flyvemaskiner på startbanen.
Mr Contogeorgis. — (GR) Austria's relations with the Community are governed by the agreement between the Community and the countries of EFTA.
Kommissionen udvirke, at udvalget alligevel aflægger besøg på Grenada, og vil den nu prioritere en færdig gørelse af lufthavnen til civile formål?
It does not cover transport, nor does it provide for special arrange ments on transport matters.
For det tredje vil jeg gerne anmode det ærede medlem orii at foretage en objektiv analyse af det drama, som har fundet sted.
In principle each country is free to make its own internal tax arrangements.
Man fandt — ganske vist noget sent — ud af, at regeringschefen på øen forsøgte at udvikle og administrere sit land i retning af en generel bilæggelse af stridighederne, men først da han var død, blev man klar over det.
However, given that close relations exist between Austria and the Community we have commenced difficult negotiations with that country which encompass many sectors, including, as I have said, the transport sector.
Er der tale om yderligere udgifter, som ikke fremgik af det oprindelige projekt?
We hope that the Austrian side will show understanding.
Seefeld (S). — (DE) Hr. kommissær, De har udtalt Dem yderst fornemt og tilbageholdende.
Mr Contogeorgis, Member of the Commission. — (GR) On 29 November 1983 the Austrian parliament decided to increase the road-transit charge with effect from 1 January 1984.
Jeg vil derfor gerne spørge, om De kan bekræfte, at anklagen mod Deres forgænger, hr. Cheysson, om at hån sørgede for, at EF finansierede revolutionen, er fuldstændig vanvittig.
The charge has been raised from 0.25 schillings to 0.35 schillings per kilometre/ tonne, by 40 % that is.
Formanden. — Da spørgeren ikke er til stede, vil spørgsmål nr. 4 blive behandlet skriftligt (').
The Austrian Government justifies this increase on the grounds that the charges had remained unchanged since 1978, whereas inflation since then has risen by 30 %.
Efter anmodning fra spørgestilleren er spørgsmål nr. 5 udsat til næste mødeperiode.
The other 10 % is to offset future inflation, because the charges are amended at only very infrequent intervals.
Kan De for det andet bekræfte, at Kommissionens afgørelse ene og alene vedrørte støtte til den for denne ø vitale turisme, hvorved passagerernes sikkerhed også har spillet en rolle, og at alt andet er grebet ud i luften og er en argumentation, som forfølger politiske mål og ikke svarer til kendsgerningerne? gerne?
The Commission protested to the Austrian Government as soon as it heard that this decision was pending, and I personally called in the Austrian ambassador on 25 November, before the Austrian parliament took its decision, that is, so as to convey to him the Commis sion's objections concerning the law which, at that time, his national parliament was due to vote on.
(') Se bilag af 18. 1. 1984.
The matter was also discussed by the Transport Council on 1 December of last year.
Pintat (L). — (FR) Hr. Pisanis svar er tilfredsstillende, og det viser, at det er nødvendigt og værdifuldt med en objektiv information af energispørgsmålet på europæisk plan.
However, on 1 December, the Commission received the go-ahead to include financial questions in its negotiations with Austria on transport relations. Hence all these matters, including road transit charges, will come up at our next meeting with the Austrian Government side.
Jeg vil gerne stille kommissæren et tillægsspørgsmål: har der være officielle reaktioner fra regeringsside på dette første arbejde, især fra OECD, som offentliggør lignende undersøgelser.
Mr Seefeld (S). — (DE) Commissioner, would you be kind enough to clarify this matter for the benefit of public opinion by confirming that the unilateral measures imposed by the Austrian Government could have been pre-empted by timely implementation of the resolutions adopted by this House and if the Commission had been empowered to conduct in-depth tangible negotiations with the Austrian authorities and that the sole culprit for this present state of affairs is the Council which, as always, has just registered another failure in the field of transport policy.
Har man herfra vist sig inte resseret i dette arbejde?
Seen in this light, Mr Papaefstratiou's question is quite justified.
Pisani. — (FR) Mig bekendt har der ikke være nogen reaktion fra regeringerne — det skulle da lige være på det tekniske plan.
President. — Question No 3, by Mr Vié (H-526/83) :
På grundlag af meddelelsen fra Kommissionen til Rådet af 9. februar 1982 om en energistrategi for Fællesskabet (KOM(82) 36 endel.) og den positive udtalelse, Europa-Parlamentet har afgivet herom ved at stemme for Pintatbetænkningen i Strasbourg den 18. juni 1982 ('), har Kommissionen foretaget en omfattende opinionsundersøgelse og offentliggjort resultaterne heraf i oktober 1983.
Mr Contogeorgis. — (GR) The Commission agrees with Parliament and with what Mr Seefeld has said, and it did recommend to the Council that our negotiations with Austria should include financial questions and also the possibility of the Community's contributing to expenditure on the roads infrastructure in Austria through which much Community traffic passes.
Vi anser denne undersøgelse for at være en kort lægning af den offentlige mening i Europa i 1982, og vort spørgsmål til.
However, the Council refused to allow this side of things to be included in the negotiations and restricted the Commission's freedom of action in the matter.
Kommissionen lyder nu : Hvorledes kan dette første arbejde følges op med henblik på at give de ansvarlige myndigheder de relevante oplysninger, således at de — med den størst mulige accept fra offentlighedens side — kan anskaffe det nye energiudstyr, der er nødvendigt for at sikre europæisk uafhængighed?
But on 1 December the Transport Council finally agreed to allow financial questions to be included in the negotiations. Since then the negotiations have been proceeding in the way I mentioned previously.
Ewing (DEP). — (EN) Er Kommissionen enig i, at der er voksende støtte blandt Fællesskabets borgere for at fremskynde udviklingen af alternative energi kilder, og har kommissæren nogle gode nyheder i dag om, at man vil give de forskellige muligheder større prioritet, f.eks. vind-bølge-, tørve- og solenergi?
The existence of this airport, whose capacity seems by far to exceed the requirements of tourism on the island and suggests that it was built to fulfil military rather than civil needs, prompts the question on what criteria the Commission based its case, assuming that the information reported is accurate, in order to obtain financing from the EDF?
Pisani. — (FR) Ifølge de undersøgelser, der er til vor rådighed, og som der er megen ringe risiko for er forkerte, vil nye og vedvarende energiformer — vindenergi, solenergi, biomasse, vandkraft m.v. — fortsat udgøre en meget beskeden del af Fællesskabets samlede energiforbrug.
Mr Gerokostopoulos (PPE). — (GR) In view of the fact that the Commissioner has confirmed for us that negotiations with Austria are in progress I would like to ask whether the issue of this special road-transit charge has been raised during the negotiations and, if so, whether the response of the Austrian negotiators has been positive or otherwise.
Pisani, medlem af Kommissionen. — (FR) Kommissionen udtrykker stor tilfredshed med den måde, hvorpå de interesserede parter, især medlemmer af Europa-Parlamentet, har modtaget den for nylig offentliggjorte undersøgelse af den europæiske offentlige mening og energimålene.
Mr Contogeorgis. — (GR) We learnt that Austria was planning to make this increase in the transit charge and, as I said at the beginning, the competent senior official of the Directorate General on Trans port, who is presiding over the negotiating committee, was instructed by the Commission to register a protest.
Det drejede sig om en første undersøgelse af denne art i Fællesskabet som helhed. Der var følgelig tale om et forsøg.
But, as I have told you, financial questions were not, at that time, included in the negotiating framework.
Det er Kommissionens hensigt i form af regelmæssige prognoser at fortsætte sine undersøgelser af udviklingen i den europæiske offentlige mening med hensyn til energispørgsmålet.
This framework was widened only after the Transport Council took its decision on 1 December following its acceptance of the Commis sion's recommendations on the matter.
Hvis det bliver nødvendigt at forbedre spørgeskemaet for at drage størst mulig fordel heraf, vil Kommissionen være rede til at under søge alle forslag.
It has done so on several islands and it saw no reason — not at the outset at any rate, nor subsequently after a careful study of the proposal — to deny Community aid to Grenada.
Det viser, at offentligheden i vore lande både har en sammenfaldende og en bred opfattelse af energispørgsmålene.
The facts show that the announce ment of the building of the airport did help to develop tourism, for in the space of three years invest ment in tourism also rose very significantly.
Hvad især angår vindenergi, har man konstrueret meget avancerede vindmøller, som mange steder rundt i Europa kan give ikke uvæsentlige resultater, skønt prisen for denne energi i sidste ende bliver ret høj.
As for saying that an airport built to take Boeing 747s cannot be used by military aircraft, that the Commission will not do.
Men en mangedobling af sådanne vindmøller skaber en ny hindring, nemlig at disse til sidst — hvis de virkelig skal kunne betyde noget på energiområdet — vil komme til at skæmme det europæiske landskab i sin helhed.
It would simply point out that the air traffic control installations were not protected in the way they normally are at military airfields and that no provision was made for stocks of aviation fuel ; under such circumstances, it is inconceivable that military activity in times of international tension could ever be all that intense.
Pisani ning i olieforbruget på verdensplan. Kan Kommissionen oplyse, om den har taget hensyn til disse økonomiske kendsgerninger i sine forslag til Rådet angående en energistrategi for Fællesskabet?
Was the Commis sion not a little bit gullible about this, and should it not take more account of political realities in the world today ?
komme til at udgøre nogen særlig stor procentdel af Europas samlede energiforbrug, så bør Europa og medlemsstaterne alligevel fortsat gøre sig virkelige bestræbelser på at fremme brugen heraf.
Mr Lomas (S). — Did the Commissioner know — and it might be interesting for Mr Vie also to know — that Plessey, the British construction company, was involved in building the new airport and that they have stated quite categorically and in some detail since the invasion that it was being built to civil specifications ?
Pisani, medlem af Kommissionen. — (FR) Det svar, jeg vil give til hr. Gauthier, har en vis relation til det foregående spørgsmål. Det vedrører det påregnede olieforbrug i Fællesskabet.
Mr Pisani. — (FR) Like the honourable Member, I too learned from the newspapers that the Grenadian forces of aggression were represented by two mortars, 17 heavy machine-guns and 300 rifles, and indeed I trembled for the power of the United States which felt itself threatened in this region by such weaponry.
Jeg kan virkelig ikke se nogen ide i at bruge penge på under søgelser blandt offentligheden, hvis der ikke er nogen reaktion herpå.
Secondly, was not the EEC aid, in any event, mainly going to train air traffic controllers rather than to the actual construction of the airport ?
Det kan være interessant at dvæle med disse tal og rejse spørgsmålet om årsagerne til disse svingninger.
Thirdly, if I know one thing, it is that the airport has been used for military purposes for the past two months.
Er sandheden ikke , at Kommissionen i virkeligheden er i knibe i dette spørgsmål om en energistrategi?
Mr Pisani. — (FR) On this second point, it is true that the EEC aid programme was intended to be in part a contribution to the cost of air traffic control equipment, including the training of personnel to operate it.
Ud fra en langsigtet sikkerhedsstrategi for energiforsyningerne indebærer dette betydelige investeringer og måske en præference fra Fællesskabets side, hvilket er til skade for konkurrenceevnen og for afgifterne. Dette er på den anden side den retning, som Kommissionen ønsker at gå. Hvorledes vil Kommissionen forelægge dette for medlemsstaternes rege ringer, som, er jeg bange for, altid vil ønske at arbejde på kort sigt i stedet for på lang sigt?
But, coming back to Mr Lomas's first point, may I say first of all that, financially, the Community's share amounted to something like 3% of the total, whereas the United Kingdom contributed 12 million, that is about 15%, in loans for the construction of this airport.
Efter medlemsstaternes beregninger skulle olieforbruget på mellemlang sigt stige svagt op til 1985 og nå op på 435 mio tons olieækvivalenter i forhold til 410 til 412 mio og dernæst stabilisere sig og måske på ny falde i 1985 og 1990, hvis bestræbelserne på omstrukturering af efterspørgselen fortsætter.
The information which has come to light at present contradicts the statement you have just made. The events which had been taking place had become something of a scandal for quite some time because of the Commission's reluctance to become involved at a time when it would have prevented the construction of the airport to serve the purpose which ultimately culminated in the present tragedy.
Pisani. — (FR) Denne endelige vurdering synes mig noget overdrevet.
Mr Pisani. — (FR) I do not understand the honourable Member's question or his point of view.
Der er visse europæiske regeringer, ja måske alle — men jeg vil foretrække at sige visse europæiske regeringer — som tværtimod har gjort udkast til og som følger en langsigtet politik, som rejser visse indvendinger, men som i visse henseender er ganske positive i deres resultater.
I thought I had made it fairly clear that whilst this airport was capable of serving, in a secondary role, as a military airfield, it was not actually equipped to do so.
På længere sigt, dvs. op til omkring år 2000, vil tilbagegangen på oliemarkedet sandsynligvis fortsætte.
It had neither defence systems to protect its air traffic control installations nor stocks of aviation fuel with which to refuel planes operating from its runway.
I denne forbindelse er det vigtigt at understrege, at Kommissionen i 1984 agter at øge sit samarbejde med medlemsstaterne i dens analyse af energimarkederne på længere sigt med henblik på at lægge nye energimål for Fællesskabet frem til 1995.
In other words, I have no proof whatever that this airport was intended to be used for military purposes.
Hvis denne stig ning, som ville være den første siden 1979, bekræftes, ville den sikkert blive absorberet af en produktions stigning fra ikke-OPEC-landenes side.
Secondly, like other airports in the region, this airport was designed to meet the technical requirements of Boeing 747s, whose purpose was to carry tourists, principally from the North American continent, to the Caribbean.
Hvad angår medlemsstaternes reaktion på den under søgelse, som vi har foretaget, må det siges, at resultatet af denne undersøgelse først forelå i september 1983, hvorfor det ikke forekommer os unormalt, at svarene endnu ikke er indgået.
Firstly, the original study entitled 'Airfields for Grenada and for St Vincent' was prepared in 1955 by the British firm of Scott, Wilson, Kirkpatrick and Part ners.