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Kan udenrigsministrene oplyse, om regeringer ne siden da har fulgt denne henstilling, eller om der er sendt tamiler tilbage til Sri Lanka — og i så fald hvor mange — og hvilke foranstaltninger der i EF-landene er taget med henblik på modtagelse af tamilflygtningene og sikring af disses status og ophold, samt tillige hvilke skridt udenrigsministrene har taget med henblik på at bevæge Sri Lankas regering til en hurtig, fredelig og for alle berørte parter tilfredsstillende løsning på konflikten?
Therefore I urge you, Mr Presi dent, to ensure that the question of the recruitment of the physically disabled is not left entirely to the discretion of the secretariats, and I would also suggest — and this was the nub of my question — that the Coun cil adopt concrete measures to ensure the recruitment of a certain percentage of physically disabled people, thereby giving it the moral authority to recommend to the twelve Community countries that they too make provisions for establishing a policy on staff recruitment. ment.
Van Eekelen. — (NL) Vi har det indtryk, at med hen syn til situationen i Sri Lanka er det glædeligt, at den centrale myndighed viser tegn på at have ordensmagten under stadig bedre kontrol, hvorved der kan op trædes mere effektivt også i tilfælde af voldshandlinger som dem, der hidtil har fundet sted.
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) I have of course been able to speak only on behalf of the Secretariat-General of
Formanden. — Da spørgeren ikke er til stede, vil spørgsmål nr. 101 blive besvaret skriftligt (')·
The effect of this is that in general the Member States will consider any requests for asylum made by Tamils from Sri Lanka individually on a case-by-case basis.
Spørgsmål nr. 102 af Tzounis (H-978/85):
Mr Ulburghs (NI). — (NL) You said that steps had been taken to enable the Indian government to mediate in this distressing conflict.
Om : Forbud mod udbredelse af bibelen i Tyrkiet
The Indian govern ment is in fact highly qualified to mediate because both in India and in Sri Lanka there is a Tamil population.
Prag (ED). — (EN) Jeg ved, at rådsformanden skal besvare det stillede spørgsmål, men mener han ikke, at den anden side af sagen er den vigtigste?
Mr Van der Lek (ARC). — (NL) Can the President-in-Office give an assurance that the escalation of a conflict must never be allowed to mean that its victims can no longer be considered as refugees?
Jeg hen viser til den hæslige tamilske terrorisme og det frygtelige blodbad, der forårsagedes af to bomber den 3. maj, og hvor 28 blev dræbt og 153 såret.
Can I also be certain in that connection that in consultations between ministers of the Twelve, a considerate approach to the treatment of all refugees from such a tragic region as Sri Lanka will be carefully adhered to?
Er det ikke vigtigere for ministrene i politisk samarbejde at tage skridt til at sikre et af de få ægte parlamentariske demokratier, som findes i Asien — jeg henviser til Sri Lanka — og gøre alt, hvad der er muligt for at lægge diplomatisk pres på Indien for at få dette land til at ophøre med at huse tamilske terrorister og tillade dem at planlægge deres angreb fra Madras?
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) The answer to the first part of the question is yes. The answer to the second part relates to national positions, but I assume that this will also apply in the case of the Member States.
Har udenrigsministrene kendskab til, at der ved statsadvokaturens afgørelse for nylig er indført et forbud mod udbredelse af bibelen i Tyrkiet, og at de eksisterende lagre er blevet beslaglagt?
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) We have had regular diplomatic contacts through our embassy in New Delhi on behalf of the Twelve.
Finder udenrigsministrene ikke, at der med denne foranstaltning er tale om er særlig alvorlig underkendelse af de grundlæggende principper i de civiliserede lande, en grov krænkelse af en omfattende del af den tyrkiske befolknings religiøse overbevisning og — hvad angår det ortodokse min dretal — en grov overtrædelse af bestemmelserne i Lausannetraktaten af 1923?
But very recently, just before the economic summit in Tokyo, the so-called Troika consultations took place in New Delhi, where by extensive talks were held by the Netherlands For eign Affairs Minister with representatives of Luxembourg and the United Kingdom on this matter.
Mener udenrigsministrene ikke i betragtning af den levende interesse, Tyrkiet på det seneste har udvist for en normalisering af forbindelser med Fællesskabet, at de over for den tyrkiske regering klart bør give udtryk for deres forbløffelse og misbilligelse over dette skridt samt deres ønske om, at dette forhold snarest bringes til ophør?
Mr Habsburg (PPE). — (DE) Mr President of the Council, do the ministers not agree that the increasing terrorism of the Tamils is creating a dangerous situation and also risks bringing the Community into diffi culties — not least because of the large number of Tamil refugees already in the Community?
Van Eekelen. — (NL) De Tolvs erklæring har til for mål at være en tilskyndelse til alle parter til at bestræbe sig for en politisk løsning og netop gennem denne erklæring at vise tegn på de aktive bekymringer, der hersker i Europa.
Do you not think the time has come for the Community to use its influence on the Indian Government more strongly than before, since according to reliable press reports, for instance in Newsweek, the Tamil terrorists have training camps in India, and to persuade India to help check Tamil terrorism?
Ulburghs (NI). — (NL) De sagde, at der er taget skidt til at lade den indiske regering mægle i denne pinlige konflikt.
Mr Stevenson (S). — The situation has deteriorated over recent weeks. We have seen the collapse of the Bhutan initiative.
Den indiske regering er faktisk meget egnet til at mægle, da der findes tamiler både i Indien og i Sri Lanka.
We have seen the apparent failure of the recent delegation by the Indian Government to Sri Lanka.
De stammer for det meste fra Indien og tager undertiden også tilbage til Indien som flygtning.
Now the Sri Lankan authorities are apparently requesting Western governments to produce, if not military aid, then something tangible to try to help them in what they see to be their conflict.
Kan De sige, hvilke skridt man har taget over for den indiske regering for at få den til at mægle?
Apart from diplomatic contacts, what measures are being taken by the Foreign Ministers meeting in political cooperation to try to bring some real influence to bear on this deteriorating situation?
Van Eekelen, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (NL) Det af det ærede medlem stillede spørgsmål er ikke drøftet som led i det europæiske politiske sam arbejde, som formand vil jeg henlede hans opmærksomhed på den tyrkiske regerings afgørelse af 20. marts 1986, der træder i stedet for afgørelsen af 17. maj 1982. Som følge af denne nye afgørelse antages det, at forbuddet mod indførsel og udbredelse af bibelen nu er ophævet.
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) We have the impression, where the situation in Sri Lanka is concerned, that we can now welcome the fact that the central government shows signs of being in a better position to exercise control over its forces of law and order, and that this will enable it to take more effective action, including action against acts of extremism such as those that have taken place in the past.
Men for ganske nylig, nemlig kort før det økonomiske topmøde i Tokio, fandt der en såkaldt trojka-drøftelse sted i New Delhi, hvor den nederlandske udenrigsminister sammen med repræsentanter fra Luxembourg og Det forenede Kongerige meget udførligt behandlede dette spørgsmål.
It is a situation that we shall continue to monitor carefully, in particular in the meeting of the political committee to be held today and tomorrow.
Me ner han ikke, at dette spørgsmål burde drøftes af udenrigsministrene — det er trods alt et ret alvorligt emne?
President. — As the author is not present, Question No 101 will be answered in writing.'
Stevenson (S). — (EN) Situationen er forværret i de seneste uger.
Question No 102 by Mr Tzounis (H-978/85):
Vi har set Bhutan-initiativets sammen brud.
Subject: Ban on the Bible in Turkey
Vi har set, at den delegation, som den indiske regering for nylig udsendte til Sri Lanka, åbenbart blev en fiasko.
Mr Prag (ED). — I know the President-in-Office has to answer the question put, but does he not believe that the other side of the coin is the really important one?
Nu anmoder myndighederne i Sri Lanka tilsyneladende vestlige regeringer om at give om ikke militær støtte så dog noget konkret for at forsøge på at hjælpe dem med noget, som de opfatter som deres konflikt.
I refer to the evil of Tamil terrorism and the fear ful carnage caused by two bombs on 3 May which killed 28 people and injured 153.
Bortset fra diplomatiske kontakter, hvilke foranstaltninger er udenrigsministrene i politisk samarbejde så i færd med at træffe i et forsøg på virkelig at gøre sin indflydelse gældende over for den stadig værre situation?
Is it not more important for the Ministers meeting in political cooperation to take steps to safeguard one of the few genuine par liamentary democracies which exist in Asia — I refer to Sri Lanka — and to do everything possible to put all diplomatic pressure on India to cease to harbour Tamil terrorists and allow them to plan their attacks from Madras?
Mener udenrigsministre ne, at det er muligt for denne tusinder af år gamle institution at fungere, når man forbyder udbredelsen af bibelen?
Are the Foreign Ministers aware that, by virtue of a recent decision by the Public Prosecutor, the Bible has been banned in Turkey and existing stocks have been placed under seal?
Van Eekelen. — (NL) Jeg har indtryk af, at det ærede medlem ikke hørte mit første svar, for han stiller nu
Do the For eign Ministers share the view that this action betrays a particularly serious indifference towards
Van Eekelen. — (NL) Jeg deler det ærede medlems bekymringer med hensyn til de seneste beretninger, der rent faktisk peger i retning af en forværring af situationen.
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) The declaration by the Twelve is intended as an impetus to all parties to com
Van Eekelen et tillægsspørgsmål der ikke tager hensyn til mit svar. Må jeg endnu en gang lige forsøge at redegøre for sagen, som jeg som rådsformand har forsøgt at gøre.
President can now be obtained in Turkey irrespective of whether they have been printed in Turkey itself or overseas.
Tzounis (PPE). — (GR) Jeg ville gerne, hvis det var muligt, at De påpeger over for formanden for uden rigsministrene i politisk samarbejde, at han, når han svarer på et spørgsmål, fra starten af bør svare med konkrete kendsgerninger og ikke med ubestemte ud talelser om, at der er truffet en afgørelse, som har ændret situationen.
the fundamental principles upheld by civilized countries, constituting a gross violation of the religious consciousness of a considerable part of Turkey's population and, with regard to the orthodox minority, a blatant infringement of the provisions of the 1923 Lausanne Treaty?
Den tyrkiske regering ophævede den 20. marts fire dekreter, der stammer fra perioden 1982-1984. Et af de ophævede dekreter forbød udbredelse af bibler og lignende skrifter.
Mr Wedekind (PPE). — (DE) Is the President-in-Office aware that the sealed Bibles in question contain maps of Turkey that are not up to date and that show parts of Turkey as belonging to Syria, Iraq, Iran etc.?
Man kan altså nu få bibler i Tyrkiet uafhængigt af, om de er trykt i Tyrkiet eller i udlandet. det.
These Bibles also contained maps that had nothing whatsoever to do with the Bible but constituted an attack on Turkey's territorial integrity, with the result that the Public Prosecutor was obliged to confiscate them.
Van Eekelen. — (NL) Jeg kan kun gentage, at der fandtes et dekret i Tyrkiet, der forbød udbredelse af bibelen og lignende skrifter.
Mr Van Eekelen, President-in-Office of the Foreign Affairs Ministers. — (NL) The question tabled by the honourable Member has not been discussed within the framework of European political cooperation, but as President-in-Office I would draw attention to the decree by the Turkish government of 20 March 1986 replacing the decree of 17 May 1982.
Dette dekret blev ophævet den 20. marts.
It can be assumed that as a consequence of the new decree the prohibition on the import and distribution of bibles has now been lifted.
Wedekind (PPE). - (DE) Er det rådsformanden be kendt, at det ved de forseglede bibler drejer sig om bibler, der viste landkort over Tyrkiet, der ikke svarer til den nuværende situation, hvor dele af Tyrkiet er henlagt under Syrien, Irak, Iran osv., og at disse bibler også indeholdt landkort, der overhovedet ikke havde noget at gøre med bibelen, og som var et angreb på denne stats territoriale integritet og derfor blev beslaglagt af statsadvokaturen?
Is the President-in-Office of the Council of Ministers further aware that Public Prosecutors in Turkey are independent because of the division of powers in that country and that in this sense therefore they cannot be acting under orders from the State? Is he further aware that in Turkey propaganda for any religion whatsoever may be made with impunity, whereas in Greece proselytism, as it is called, i.e. efforts to win adherents for a religion, even a Christian religion, is forbidden under one of the Metaxas laws and is punishable by imprisonment.
Van der Waal (NI). — (NL) Jeg vil gerne stille et tillægsspørgsmål til rådsformandens første svar, nem lig at udbredelse af bibelen og indførelse af bibelen nu er tilladt efter ophævelsen af dekretet af 20. marts.
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) I think the most important thing in this situation is that a prohibition on the dis tribution of the bible has now been revoked.
I praksis fungerede det blot meget dårligt, da dem, der beskæftigede sig med udbredelsen, blev udsat for alle mulige hindringer.
That was also the subject of the written question that we received from Mr Van der Waal and which we answered in the same terms as I have just done orally.
Dette var en del af spørgsmålet, men den anden er, at der i Tyrkiet findes en lov, der forbyder indførsel af bibler.
Mr Tzounis (PPE). — (GR) I find the President-in-Office's reply quite unsatisfactory.
Det er nemlig artikel 31 i den tyrkiske presse lov.
For a start he has told us that the Foreign Ministers did not discuss the matter.
Jeg blev derfor lidt forundret over, at rådsformanden nu nævner udbredelsen af bibler og indførselen af bibler i samme åndedrag, da udbredelsen aldrig har været ramt af et forbud.
Does he not think — the matter is quite serious enough — that they ought to have discussed it?
Er det endvidere rådsformanden bekendt, at statsadvokaturen i Tyrkiet er afhængig, fordi der er en deling af magten i staten, og at det for så vidt ikke får pålagt ordrer af staten?
Second, he has spoken about a new situation having been created by a more recent decision of the Turkish Government rescinding the 1982 decision.
Er det ham endvidere bekendt, at propaganda for enhver religion er mulig i Tyrkiet og ikke medfører straf, mens i Grækenland den såkaldte proselytemageri, dvs. reklame for en religion, også selv om det er en kristen religion, er forbudt ifølge en Metaxas-lov og straffes med fængsel?
I can show him six decisions and decrees of the Turkish Govern ment, two of them signed by General Evren and two by the Prime Minister of Turkey, Mr Ozal, which ban circulation of the Bible in Turkey. So, I ask, which of all these six decisions has the new decision of the Turkish Government amended or rescinded?
Van Eekelen. — (NL) Jeg tror, at det vigtigste i den ne situation er, at forbuddet mod udbredelse af bibelen nu er ophævet. Dette var også genstand for en skriftlig forespørgsel, som vi modtog fra hr. Van der Waal, og som vi i mellemtiden har besvaret på sam me måde, som jeg nu har gjort det mundtligt.
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) I have the impression that the honourable Member cannot have heard my first answer for he has now asked a supplementary question in terms that take no account whatsoever of the answer I have just given.
Han glemte at svare på dette spørgsmål.
This means that bibles
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Because that is how I got it from the Greek interpretation.
Vil udenrigsministrene derfor overveje eventuelle fælles aktioner i samarbejde med regeringerne i alle de berørte lande for at forhindre, der sker flere drab eller angreb på ledere af etniske mindretalsgrupper, som er bosiddende i EF-medlemsstater?
Would the Foreign Ministers therefore consider possible joint action, in collaboration with the governments of all the appropriate countries con cerned, to prevent any further assassinations or attacks on leaders of minority ethnic groups resident in EEC States?
Sir James Scott-Hopkins (ED). - (EN) Erkender ministeren ikke, at dette spørgsmål og det svar, han har givet, understreger behovet for yderligere og me get snævrere samarbejde mellem politistyrker i Det europæiske Fællesskab?
Mr Van der Waal (NI). — (NL) I should like to put a supplementary question to the fist answer by the Presi dent-in-Office, to the effect that distribution of the bible and imports of bibles are now allowed following the revocation of the decree of 20 March.
Er han overbevist om, at der er et tilstrækkeligt samarbejde for øjeblikket?
My information was this: that distribution of the bible in Turkey has never actually been prohibited.
Mener han ikke, som jeg foreslog for måske to måneder siden, at der bør oprettes specialenheder med henblik på samarbejde og permanent arbejde mellem alle 12 medlemsstaters politistyrker for at løse spørgsmålet med terrorisme og angreb ikke kun på ledere af etniske mindretal, men også andre ledere?
In practice however it always proved very difficult because those involved in its distribution found that all kinds of obstacles were put in their way.
Van Eekelen, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (NL) De tolv er rede til at samarbejde med alle stater for at opnå, at der ikke tilbydes terrorister støtte, skjule- eller tilflugtssted.
Mr Van Eekelen, President-in-Office of the Foreign Affairs Ministers. — (NL) The Twelve are prepared to cooperate with all states with a view to ensuring that no support, no refuge and no safe haven is offered to terrorists.
Den permanente arbejdsgruppe, som De Tolvs udenrigsministre nedsatte den 27. januar 1986, undersøger spørgsmålet om, på hvilken måde samarbejdet med tredjelande i kampen mod den internationale terrorisme bedst kan tilrettelægges.
The permanent working party that was set up on 27 January 1986 by the Foreign Affairs Ministers of the Twelve considered the question as to how cooperation with third countries in the fight against international terrorism could best be organized.
Desuden findes der allerede et godt samarbejde.
There now exists firm cooperation.
Dette finder sted på bilateralt plan mellem hver af de tolv medlemsstater og tredjelande via de internationale politiorganisationer.
This takes place at bilateral level between each member of the Twelve and third countries via the international police organizations. tions.
Van Eekelen. — (NL) Svaret er bekræftende. Vi har nu egentlig to grupper, der samarbejder snævert med hinanden.
That was one part of the question: the second is that in Turkey a law does in fact exist that prohibits imports of bibles.
Ny er den permanente arbejdsgruppe, der er nedsat af udenrigsministrene.
The law in question is Article 31 of the Turkish press law.
Der findes desuden allerede et operationelt samarbejde mellem De Tolvs sikkerheds- og polititjenester.
So I was a little surprised to hear the President-in-Office just now mention the dis tribution of bibles and imports of bibles in the same breath, because their distribution has never actually been the subject of any prohibition.
Dette operationelle samarbejde finder sted i den såkaldte Trevi-gruppe under justits- og udenrigsministrene, der rent faktisk udfører yderst vigtigt arbejde med hensyn til udveksling af informationer, navnlig også om terroristiske aktiviteter.
My question to him now is: can confirm that Article 31 of the press law prohibiting the import of bibles has now been revoked?
Elliott (S). — (EN) Jeg glæder mig over dette svar, men må jeg spørge rådsformanden specifikt, om der har fundet drøftelser sted med den indiske regering om terroristaktiviteter som følge af problemerne med sikh-samfundet i Punjab?
Mr Elliott (S). — I am grateful for that reply but can I ask the President-in-Office of the Council in specific terms whether there have been discussions with the Indian Government on terrorist activities arising from the problems of the Sikh community in the Punjab.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 104 af Crawley (H46/86):
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) Our information is that that article has also been revoked.
Jeg repræsenterer i min valgkreds West London mel lem 60 000 og 70 000 sikhere — sandsynligvis mere, end det store flertal af indiske parlamentsmedlemmer repræsenterer.
I represent in my constituency of West London between 60 000 and 70 000 Sikhs, probably more than are represented by the great majority of Indian MPs.
Af disse folk er én blevet myrdet og en anden blev udsat for mordforsøg først på året som følge af problemer, der stammede fra og stod i forbin delse med den politiske situation i Punjab.
Of these people one was murdered and another had an attempt made on his life early this year as a result of problems originating in and relating to the political situation in the Punjab.
Jeg ønsker ikke at blande mig i et andet lands interne anliggender, og jeg er sikker på, at det samme gælder for udenrigsministrene, men når andre landes interne politiske anliggender berører store grupper i vore medlemsstater og skaber problemer inden for de et niske mindretalsgrupper i vore lande, tror jeg, det er afgørende, at vi griber ind.
Now, I do not wish to intervene in the internal affairs of another country and I am sure that would not be the wish of the foreign ministers, but when the internal political affairs of other countries impinge upon large communities within our own Member States and cause problems within the ethnic minority communities in our states, it is, I think, vital that we take action.
Endvidere skal det oplyses, at der for øjeblikket for handles om en toldunion mellem Det forenede Fællesskab og republikken Cyperns regering, målet herfor er, at den skal komme hele øens befolkning til gode.
I would ask if consultations have been held with the Indian Government on this specific issue and whether we will make every effort, where we have large ethnic minority groups in our countries and where problems arise in connection with internal political issues in states outside Europe, to take the necessary action to ensure that the political problems of thrid countries do not spill over into our own Community states.
Crawley (S). — (EN) Jeg er ikke helt overbevist om, at ministerens svar omhandler de videre følger af denne institutions forbindelser med en af parterne i konflikten i Cypern, nemlig Tyrkiet.
The recent murder and attempted murder of two respected Sikh Community Leaders in West London have caused great concern in Britain, especially amongst ethnic minority communities.
Van Eekelen. — (NL) Det er egentlig to spørgsmål.
Mr Van Eekelen. — (NL) There are in fact two questions here.
For det første vedrørende Indien.
Firstly, in relation to India, during the
Så ville formanden skulle tale meget længere, og det er bestemt ikke min opgave. Og i særdeleshed ikke på dette punkt, som er et meget ømtåleligt problem.
Troika consultations in New Delhi extensive discus sions were held on combating terrorism, both as regards the situation of India in itself and as regards the situation of India as President of the non-aligned nations.
Jeg kan kun gentage, at vi stiller os bag FNs generalsekretær, og at vi inderligt håber, at han vil få held i denne langvarige konflikt.
Would the For eign Ministers not agree that, in order to follow the mandate proposed in their answer to my original question, an over-bias towards Turkey in diplomatic and in economic relations at the moment will only inhibit any progress towards a peaceful settlement on that island?