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Jeg vil understrege over for forsamlingen, at alle de svar, alle de forklaringer, og alle de løfter, som jeg allerede har givet i budgetkontroludvalget, og som hr. Irmer og hr. Key jo var så elskværdige at betegne som yderst bemærkelsesværdige, står heri, og jeg håber, at medlemmerne, før de fremsætter bemærkninger af den karakter, som hr. Cluskey gjorde for et øjeblik siden, vil gøre os den ære at læse den redegørelse, jeg har fremsat.
Now, I face a certain difficulty because I know that there is a shortage of time and I have been confronted — as Mr Clinton pointed out earlier — with a number of really quite serious speeches. What I would really like to do, despite the fact that not very many Mem bers are present, is to answer each of those points in detail as I did to the Committee on Budgetary Con trol.
Jeg føler imidlertid, at det ikke vil være rigtigt uden videre at forbigå de kritikpunkter, der er blevet rejst, og jeg vil derfor meget kort beskæftige mig med dem, som hr. Key viede mest opmærksomhed. somhed.
But I realize that if I do that you will run into difficulties with your timetable and that the important debate on Mr Jackson's report, which is due to take place today, will not take place, and therefore I will not go into all the details that I would like, though my colleagues will certainly make some points in their own fields.
Han lagde ud, har jeg vist ret til at sige, med spørgsmålet om vor landbrugseksport til Sovjetunionen. Jeg vil godt påpege, at det ikke var et punkt, der figurerede i Revisionsrettens beretning, og da Revisionsrettens beretning er basisdokument for decharge, synes jeg, at det er rimeligt, at jeg påpeger dette.
I myself, of course, have spent many hours with the Committee on Budgetary Control.
Hvad angår beskyldningerne om, at Kommissionen har overtrådt bestemmelserne i forbindelse med ordningen om foreløbige tolvtedele, hvilket vistnok var hr. Key's andet punkt, så har jeg over for budget kontroludvalget forklaret, at målet med de foreløbige tolvtedele ikke var, som nogle parlamentsmedlemmer hævder, og nogle parlamentsmedlemmer ønsker, at bringe den fælles landbrugspolitik til standsning. Jeg ved, at det er, hvad nogle ønskede skulle ske.
I do emphasize to the House that all the answers, all the explanations, all the undertakings which I have already given in the Committee on Budgetary Control and, indeed, which Mr Irmer and Mr Key were kind enough to say were very impressive are available here and I hope that before Members make remarks of the sort that Mr Cluskey made a few moments ago they will do us the honour of reading the speech which I made.
Jeg vil også understrege, at Kommissionen handlede til støtte for den amerikanske embargo. Amerikanerne var initiativtagerne, og vi i Fællesskabet handlede til støtte for den amerikanske embargo.
I also said on 1 April that I would make myself and my services available during the Easter break or at any other time to provide further information on any point relating to the discharge in order to enable Parliament to take action within the appropriate time frame laid down in the Financial Regulation.
Vi var ikke forpligtet til ikke at eksportere til østblokken — nogle medlemmer af Parlamentet mener, at vi burde have været, men vi var det ikke — vi var forpligtet til ikke at fylde de huller, der blev skabt af den amerikanske embargo, og ikke at underminere den amerikanske embargo.
We did, in fact, receive one request — Mr Price made such a request — and it has already received a reply and, indeed, so has the Committee on Budgetary Control.
Jeg har sagt det i budgetkontroludvalget, og jeg siger det igen til Parlamentet nu, at Kommissionen ved starten på ordningen med foreløbige tolvtedele informerede Parlamentet om, hvordan den havde tænkt sig
Now he began, I think I am right in saying, with the point about the export of agricultural products to the
Parlamentet havde lejlighed til at sige, at vi gjorde •tingene forkert, eller at det ikke brød sig om den måde, hvorpå vi ønskede at gennemføre ordningen, men skønt jeg frembragte spørgsmålet flere gange over for Parlamentet, lød der ingen kritik fra denne forsamling førend umiddelbart før ordningens ophæ.velse.
I would like to point out that that was not a point which featured in the Court of Auditors' report, and as the Court of Auditors' report is the basic document for the discharge, I feel it is reasonable for me to make that point.
Men det er sagens kerne: før Rådet har handlet.
I know that is what some people wanted to happen.
Og det er derfor ikke rimeligt at kræve, at Kommissionen gennemfører budgettet som vedtaget, når begge parter — både Parlamentet og Kommissionen — erkender, at der er juridiske problemer, og når Parlamentet helt berettiget — som i øvrigt også vi — gør alt hvad det kan for at få Rådet op på mærkerne.
On the contrary, the object of the provisional twelfths regime is to ensure the orderly continuation of Community busi­ness until the Commission can bring forward and the budgetary authority adopt a new budget reflecting the views expressed by Parliament at the earlier rejection.
Det tredje punkt, hr. Key omtalte, var motionscentret i Luxembourg, og jeg udtalte over for udvalget, at budgetbevillingerne til leje af den pågældende bygning var overholdt, men at Kommissionen i lyset af den fremkomne kritik i udvalget nu havde truffet interne administrative skridt for at sikre, at et lignende problem ikke vil opstå i fremtiden.
That is what we did — the rejection was in December, we brought forward our proposals in February and the Council adopted our proposals very largely reflecting the views which Parliament had expressed.
Da han udtalte dette, fik han naturligvis udvalgets støtte.
I would also like to point out that the Community was acting in support of the American embargo.
Hr. Key omtalte også to andre punkter. Han påpegede, hvad der efter hans opfattelse bør være et bindeled mellem den endelige opfølgningsberetning fra Kommissionen om 1979-dechargen og afgørelsen om decharge for 1980.
The Americans were the initiators and we in the Com­munity were acting in support of the American embargo.
Kommissionen har i den rede gørelse, jeg har omtalt, givet en meget udførlig begrundelse for, at et sådant bindeled ikke bør etableres.
We were not under an obligation not to export to the Eastern bloc — some Members of Par­liament think we should have been, but we were not — we were under an obligation not to fill the gaps left by the American embargo and not to undermine the American embargo.
Denne begrundelse støtter sig på praktiske hensyn, navnlig den kendsgerning at Kommissionen allerede har fremlagt en interimsberetning, der dækker omkring 90 % af de af Parlamentet krævede foranstaltninger.
The American Secretary of State, Mr Alexander Haig, wrote a letter to the Commission at the end of the embargo thanking the Commission for its work and praising the Commission for what it had done.
Udvalget for budgetkontrol har behandlet dette svar og så vidt jeg ved ikke fundet noget at indvende.
Now I realize that there are many great experts in this House on the conduct of agricultural exports but, as I said earlier, the Community was act­ing in support of the United States and the United States Secretary of State went out of his way — he was not obliged to, the courtesies of diplomatic life did not require it — to praise the Commission for what we had done.
Begrundelsen støtter sig også til juridiske hensyn, idet finansforordningen ganske klart foreskriver, at Parlamentet skal træffe afgørelse om decharge før den 30. april det andet år efter budgettets gennemførelse, og at Kommissionen skal aflægge beretning 13 måneder senere, dvs. inden 31. maj, om dens opfølgning af decharge-afgørelsen.
I do want to emphasize that I told Parliament how we intended to proceed; Parliament had the opportunity to say that we were doing it wrong or that it did not like the way we intended to do it, but although I made the point several times to Parliament, there were no ciriticisms from this House until just before the regime came to an end.
Hr. formand, nu vil jeg dog godt gøre det helt klart, så klart som jeg på nogen mulig måde kan, at Kommissionen går stærkt ind for at udvide Parlamentets beføjelser, ja, at øge Parlamentets indflydelse på enhver mulig måde. Jeg vil også gøre det klart, at Kommissionen har en veldefineret forpligtelse over for Fællesskabet, som består i at handle som den uafhængige igangsætter og politiske eksekutivmyndighed og så naturligvis vise vejen frem.
The third point that Mr Key mentioned was the fitness centre at Luxembourg, and I explained to the com­mittee that the budgetary appropriations for the rental of the building in question were respected but that, in the light of the criticisms made by the committee, the Commission has now made internal administrative provisions so as to ensure that in future this type of problem should not recur.
Som hr. Clinton udtrykte det i sit bemærkelsesværdige indlæg, bør Kommissionen ikke være i en underordnet stilling i forhold til nogen.
Now I think that that is a point which perhaps ought to be taken into account. I, of course, have said that the embargo was a new experience for us.
Det vil efter min opfattelse sige ikke underordnet i forhold til Rådet, ikke under ordnet i forhold til Parlamentet.
It was something where we were flying rather by the seat of our pants, as is usually the case when one is doing something for the first time.
Men alle vi, der ønsker at se Fællesskabet udvikle sig, erkender, at vore tre institutioner forudsættes at være, bør være, må være, uafhængige institutioner, og dét er derfor ikke rigtigt, at anvende en procedure, der er udformet med henblik på et specielt formål, til at forsøge at underlægge den ene instition den anden.
I believe, however, that the experience which we gained during the conduct of that embargo and the extremely useful and helpful suggestions and criticisms which have been made by a number of Members of this House will ensure that if any similar situation should arise in the future the Commission will be better placed to take account of the pitfalls in implementing such a policy.
Den forbindelse, hr. Key foreslår, er altså i modstrid med de gældende retlige bestemmelser.
Mr Key also raised two other points.
Det, jeg siger, er, at vi opererer på grundlag af bestemmelserne.
The Com­mission, in the report I have mentioned, has given a very full explanation as to why no link should be made.
Det forslag, hr. Key fremsætter, er i modstrid med retsgrundlaget, og under alle omstændigheder har vi fremlagt en beretning, der dækker 90 % af spørgsmålene, og der er endnu ikke blevet rejst kritik mod denne beretning.
This explanation covers practical considera­tions, in particular the fact that the Commission has already submitted an interim reply covering a good 90% of the actions requested by Parliament. The Committee on Budgetary Control has examined this reply and has not, to the best of my information, found fault.
Endvidere vil jeg gerne understrege, at vi alle — Parlamentet, Rådet og Kommissionen — er underkastet Fællesskabets retsregler.
Certainly it could have been done better, despite Mr Haig's kind words, but I think that, on the basis of our experience and on the basis of the suggestions and criticisms made in this House, we will be able to do it better in future.
Jeg vil derfor hævde, at finansforordningen — en forordning der er af absolut central betydning for så mange af Fællesskabets aktiviteter — forpligter Parlamentet, som påpeget af hr. Kellett-Bowman, til at træffe afgørelse om decharge for 1980 inden 30. april i år.
Furthermore, since a number of hon­ourable Members have suggested that we exceeded budgetary appropriations or that we did not have budgetary cover, I would like to place it clearly and unequivocally on the record that there was no ques­tion at any time of the Commission exceeding the appropriations available within the EAGGF Guaran­tee.
Den eneste situation, der kan medføre udskydelse af denne afgørelse, er, hvis fristen ikke kan overholdes, således som det var tilfældet sidste år.
I do not believe therefore that that issue provides any justification for a postponement of the discharge.
Et andet punkt, hr. formand, som blev fremdraget af hr. Key, var det, han betegnede som Kommissionens manglende gennemførelse af det af Parlamentet vedtagne budget.
As regards the allegation that the Commission misap­plied the law relating to the regime of provisional twelfths, which was, I think, the second point men­tioned by Mr Key, I explained to the Committee on
Han ved, at den sag ikke er så enkel, som den ser ud.
Thus the link mentioned by Mr Key runs counter to the relevant legal constraints.
Tugendhat hvis Parlamentet beslutter at udsætte decharge-afgørelsen.
Mr President, that the legalities should not be changed — perhaps they should.
Parlamentet har al mulig grund til at respektere Fællesskabets retsregler med henblik på at opretholde sin institutionelle stilling og al mulig'grund til ikke at tilsidesætte retsreglerne af opportunistiske grunde.
But what I am saying is that we are operating on the legal basis. The point that Mr Key is making runs counter to the legal basis, and in any case we have provided a report covering 90% of the points already and there has been no criticism of our report thus far.
uafhængige kontrol i medlemsstaterne af EKSFs finansielle aktiviteter.
wish to see Parliament's influence increased.
Som det påpeges af hr. Gabert i punkt 1 i beslutningsforslaget, og som Revisionsret tens formand, hr. Lelong, meddelte budgetkontrol udvalget i dets sidste møde, er procedureproblemerne mellem Revisionsretten og Kommissionen nu lykke ligvis blevet løst.
But all of us who wish to see the development of the Community recognize that our three institutions are supposed to be, should be, must be, independent institutions and it is not right, therefore, to use a procedure designed for one purpose in order to try to subjugate one institu tion to another.
Denne udvikling afspejler en glædelig forbedring i samarbejdet mellem de to institutioner, som vi begge ønsker at fremme yderligere. gere.
He also knows that the Commission's view, explained at length in the report I have mentioned, namely that the budget represents a necessary legal base for revenue and expenditure but is not always sufficient in itself, is practically the same as the one enunciated by Parliament in November 1980 when it adopted its resolution on the 1981 draft budget.
Men jeg mener, at Revisionsretten stort set har givet Kommissionen en positiv helbredsattest.
I submit, therefore, that the Financial Regulation — a regulation that is absolutely central to so much Community activity — obliges Parliament, as Mr Kellett-Bowman pointed out, to decide on the dis charge for 1980 before 30 April this year.
Naturligvis har den, som man måtte forvente, fremsat en række kritikpunkter og fremdraget en række områder, hvor procedurerne kunne forbedres.
The only circumstance under which the decision can be post poned is if that date cannot be met, as was the case, for example, last year.
Det er der ingen revisionsret i Fællesskabet, der ikke gør hvert år, og ingen regering i Fællesskabet, der ikke reagerer på.
But there is no provision for postponement in the event of Parliament not wanting to decide.
Ikke blot med kønne ord og løfter, men vi har, hvor det var muligt, gennemført ændringer for at imødekomme kritikken; og så gælder det selvfølgelig, at nogle af de kritikpunkter, der er blevet fremført i Parlamentet, navnlig på land brugsområdet, slet ikke figurerer i Revisionsrettens beretning.
Parliament has every reason to respect Community law in order to maintain its institu tional position and every reason not to advocate the setting aside of the law for reasons of convenience.
Kommissionen venter snart at modtage disse bemærkninger, og den vil gøre sit yderste for at sikre, at Revisionsretten kan forelægge Parlamentet sine bemærkninger og Kommissionens svar så hurtigt som muligt.
And it is not, therefore, reasonable to ask the Commission to implement the budget as adopted when both sides — both Parliament and Commission — recognize that there are legal difficulties and when Parliament is quite rightly, as indeed we are, doing all that they can to bring the Council up to the mark.
Og nu til de to næste betænkninger på dagsordenen, de der omhandler centrene i Dublin og i Berlin.
Now, Mr President, Parliament is, of course, an independent institution and must take its own decisions.
Kommissionen hilser disse to betænkninger velkommen, og jeg vil gerne rette en tak til hr. Kellett-Bowman for den omhu og opmærksomhed, han har viet sin undersøgelse af aktiviteterne i disse to centre.
It will do so in any case. But I believe that in general the Court of Auditors has given the Commission a clean bill of health.
Under den 5 Vi time lange forhandling i udvalget hørte jeg ikke på et eneste tidspunkt nogen foreslå, at decharge-afgørelsen skulle udsættes, medens mange medlemmer udtalte, at den skulle meddeles enten nu eller senere.
Not just with fair words and promises, but we have, where possible, implemented changes to take account of the criticisms; and, of course, some of the criticisms that have been made in Parliament, especially in the agricultural field, are not found in the Court of Auditors' report in any case.
Hvad angår centret i Berlin, vil jeg godt understrege, at Kommissionen i kølvandet på omstruktureringen af sine tjenestegrene har taget skridt til at effektivisere sine arbejdsforbindelser med centret.
Now, Mr President, in the light of all that I have said in the Committee on Budgetary Control, some of which I have repeated here, I find it difficult, I must confess, to escape the conclusion that the reason for the proposal to defer the discharge decision is in real ity the one that was given openly by Mr Aigner when he explained from the chair to the Committee on Budgetary Control that the main justification for post poning the decision was to further Parliament's institutional powers, relative to those of the Council, by bringing pressure to bear on the Commission to support more fully Parliament's views.
Kommissionen vil derfor være i stand til mere systematisk at udnytte resultaterne af centrets arbejde, hvor dette har relevans for dens eget politiske arbejde.
When he said that, Mr Aigner was, of course, supported by the committee. mittee.
Jeg synes også, at det, hr. Kellett-Bowman fremhævede vedrørende ordførerne, er et vigtigt og betydningsfuldt punkt i denne forbindelse, nemlig at ingen af dem har foreslået, at decharge burde udskydes eller nægtes. Siden da, hr. formand, har kun ét medlem — kun ét ud af 434 fuldtidsmedlemmer i Parlamentet — taget imod mit tilbud om at frem komme med yderligere oplysninger eller forklaringer, og vi har givet ham et svar, ligesom vi ville have givet et svar til enhver anden, der havde henvendt sig til os om yderligere oplysninger.
In the few cases where we have not felt able to act in response to the Court's points or in response to the committee's points, I have provided a reasoned explanation, which I was able to defend in the Committee on Budgetary Control and which, if the House wishes, I could defend at equal length today or tomorrow or at any other time.
Under disse omstændigheder vil jeg anmode Parlamentet om at meddele decharge, og jeg vil anmode det om at gøre det nu.
During the 5 Vi hours of debate in that committee, I did not hear anyone suggest that the discharge be withheld, although many members said that it should be granted either now or later.
Hvad instituttet i Dublin angår, er Kommissionen meget glad for indholdet af beslutningsforslaget og den vedføjede betænkning.
Now, Mr President, I would like to make it quite clear, as clear as I possibly can, that the Commission is strongly in favour of developing Parliament's powers.
Som i tilfældet med Berlin sker der en fremadskridende effektivisering af vort samarbejde med instituttet.
And, indeed, of enhancing Parliament's influence in every possible way.
Jeg vil også understrege, at man nu i instituttets arbejdsprogram lægger større vægt på projekter med tilknytning til levevilkårene, selv om der i de første år var en tendens til udelukkende at koncentrere sig om arbejdsvilkårene.
I also want to make it clear that the Commission has a well-defined duty towards the Community to act as the independent initiator and executor of policy and, of course, to point the way ahead.
Jeg er sikker på, at man vil finde en tilfredsstillende balance mellem disse to forbundne aktivitetsområder.
As Mr Clinton said in his notable speech ear lier, the Commission should not be subordinated to any one.
Kommissionen vil på sin side fortsat gøre en energisk indsats for at opnå dette under drøftelserne i institut tets bestyrelse.
I should say should not be subordinated to the Council, should not be subordinated to Parliament.
Hvad angår EKSF-dechargen, glæder det mig at se, at der ikke omtales nogen større problemer i betænkningen.
I wish to see Parliament's powers increased.
Hr. formand, det bringer mig til afslutningen på mine bemærkninger, men jeg vil godt på ny understrege den store betydning, som vi tillægger decharge-proceduren.
I also think the point which Mr Kellett-Bowman made about the rapporteurs in that respect is a significant and important one, that not one of them has suggested that it should be deferred or withheld.
Jeg håber, at medlemmerne omhyggeligt vil overveje det, jeg har sagt.
Since then, Mr President, only one Member — only one of the
Tugendhat de har flere spørgsmål, vil kunne få dem besvaret af mine kolleger hr. Pisani, hr. Ortoli og hr. Dalsager.
In these circumstances, Mr President, I ask Parliament to grant the discharge and I ask it to grant it now.
FORSÆDE: GUIDO GONELLA
IN THE CHAIR: MR GONELLA
en ændring i den hensigt at forbedre fællesskabsaktionens effektivitet for de kommende budgetter. Som eksempel skal jeg blot nævne industripolitikken, som jeg har haft den glæde at beskæftige mig med i forbindelse med dechargen.
The House will recall that the question of the discharge for ECSC activities has been dominated in récent years by the problem of independent control by the Court of Auditors within the Member States of the financial activities of the ECSC.
Cousté, ordfører. — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne have lov til at sige et par ord til proceduren under denne forhandling.
As Mr Gabert has indicated in paragraph 1 of the motion for a resolution and as President Lelong of the Court of Auditors told the Committee on Budgetary Control at its last meeting, the problems of procedure as between the Court and the Commis sion are, I am happy to say, now resolved.
Jeg mener ikke, at kommissionsmedlem Tugendhat har svaret på de af mig fremførte spørgsmål vedrørende Kommissionens lånoptagelsesog långivningspolitik, som jeg tillægger stor betydning.
I should like to thank the Court for its work in this connection as also in others — for instance, under the ECSC for the annual and special reports as well as for the external confirmation of bank balances.
Jeg tillader mig at gå ud fra, at han ikke vil besvare mine spørgsmål, men vil gerne have vished for, at de vil blive besvaret af hr. Ortoli.
This development reflects a welcome improvement in working relations between the two institutions, which we are both an xious to advance.
Men ser man på 1980budgettet, er de kun blevet fordoblet, og hvis man betragter resultaterne, vil jeg sige, at man får en lidt flov smag i munden, idet man har ramt helt ved siden af målet.
As regards the discharge in particular, the Commission services had a very detailed discussion in January of this year with the Court of Auditors about its preliminary draft comments on the sound financial manage ment of the ECSC activities in 1980.
Til trods for budget tets meget beskedne muligheder har betalingerne kun udgjort 35 % deraf, og ser man endnu nærmere efter, vil man opdage, at alt det, der er blevet gjort inden for industripolitikken, er gået til — hvad?
The Commission is awaiting receipt of the draft comments and will do its utmost to ensure that the Court of Auditors can present Parliament with its comments and the Commission's replies as quickly as possible.