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Virksomhedsbegreberne virker uklare og svarer hverken til nationalt anerkendte definitioner eller til de definitioner, andre EF-selskabsretslige direktiver opererer med. Samtidig må vi også have for øje, at traditionerne i medlemsstaterne er meget forskellige.
We should restore to these agreements the primary role which is properly theirs and accept contractual negotiation, at least in the cases where there are agreements between the parties involved or national legislation laying down obligations in this area, as a means of applying the directive.
F.eks. i Danmark, hvor jeg kommer fra, har vi en lang og god tradition for, at rammerne for samarbejdet på virksomhederne fastlægges ved aftaler mellem arbejdsmarkedets parter og ikke ved lovgivning.
Moving on to the examination of the amendments proposed for the Commission's text by the Committee on Social Affairs, I believe that amendment 5/27 to Article 5 is very apt.
Vi har da også ofte hørt bl.a. de danske social demokrater og Folkebevægelsen mod EF tale imod lovgivning på miljøområdet og lignende, idet de mener, at det er noget, der henhører under dansk lovgivning og forhandlinger mellem arbejdsmarkedets parter.
I think that it is necessary to reaf­firm, also in the context of industry and business, that it is national legislation which should be present and active.
Desværre må jeg konstatere, at jeg ikke i dag har hørt de samme toner, når vi taler om Vredelingforslaget.
I believe we must combat the idea that the citi­zen as such should be denied the possibility and the duty to decide upon the industrial and economic models of development in his own country.
Spencer-forslaget til Vredelingdirektivet har særlig betydning for Grækenland, hvad angår en program meret udvikling, en væsentlig deltagelse fra folkets side.
Mr Van Minnen. — (NL) Mr President, colleagues, I need hardly remind you of just how long we have been deliberating on this directive.
Den græske regering har bebudet oprettelsen af såkaldte tilsynsråd på virksomhederne, som imidlertid, hvis de tilpasses EFs tankegang, ikke vil være andet end et reformistisk forsøg fra arbejdernes side på at ændre udviklingen.
Today again we have methodically gone over everything to the extent even of calling upon British philosophers to justify our vari­ous standpoints, albeit Toynbee rather than Marx and several others which I would commend to Mr Turner in order to get an overall picture.
Og det er fordi Vredelingdirektivet giver et generelt billede af medbestemmelse, uden at ideernes hovedindhold gøres helt klart.
From this viewpoint it appears to me that many prob­lems could arise from the application of amendment 27, presented by the Committee on Social Affairs in connection with Article 5, where this article provides for a legal procedure.
Derfor er der ingen garanti imod risikoen for, at arbejdstagerne spærres inde i kapitalismens tanke gang.
This involves an objective risk of blocking the organized decision­making power of the companies, and could seriously affect their efficiency and competitiveness.
Medbestemmelsen har for os først mening, når der udøves reel kontrol på alle ledelsestrin i offentlige og private virksomheder, og ikke når den fjerner det arbejdsmæssige grundlag fra arbejdernes repræsen tanter, hvilket sker i Vredeling-forslaget, som undlader at fastsætte klare retningslinjer for valget af repræsentanter; dvs. det udelukker ikke udnævnelser, og i Grækenland har vi bitre erfaringer.
It seems to me that the basic problems raised by the directive are still the same: first, the weakening and distortion of the proper industrial relations; second, the introduction of new inflexible elements in company management, particularly due to a disregard for established powers and competences; third, inapplicability in some respects: for example, concerning the disclosure of information ι relative to the secrets of company strategy, to new technologies, new products, and so on; fourth, a further slow­down in extra­Community investment, with the resulting complications for an economic prospect which is already extremely problematic.
For os står det klart, at en væsentlig udnyttelse selv af de begrænsede foranstaltninger, som vi diskuterer, ikke kan være andet end resultatet af arbejdernes kamp.
It seems to leave out of account a central factor of the current phase of indus­trial evolution, that of executive decentralization and operational flexibility, and it thereby runs the risk of becoming a hindrance to the natural positive develop­ment of enterprises of this type.
Det er ikke EF, som giver ordninger og problemløsninger til græske arbejdere; det er retten til medbestemmelse, som de har opnået i deres kamp for skabelsen af mere generelle politiske betingelser og gennemførelsen af en regeringspolitik med en klar antimonopolistisk retning.
Whether or not these reservations can be overcome will depend, at least to some extent, on the result of the vote on the amend­ments, but radical modifications will be necessary in order to avoid the danger — which thé rapporteur himself has pointed out — that a lack of consensus on the part of the social partners may make the directive impossible to apply.
Galland. — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, selvfølgelig er der ingen iblandt os, der ikke kan tilslutte sig de i Vredelingdirektivet forfulgte mål.
The moment of truth has finally come for this direc­tive today in this Assembly.
Vi skal derfor være meget tilbageholdende med på en så afgørende måde, som der er lagt op til her, at lægge regler og rammer for denne informationsvirksomhed.
My colleague Maij­Weggen has referred to the directive as an express commitment to the ideals propounded in the Christian Democratic electoral programme.
Det er mit håb, at det vil lykkes os ved Parlamentets behandling at få Vredeling-forslaget til at fungere i medlemslandene, og at der kan tages tilstrækkelige hensyn til medlemslandenes normale lovgivning på dette område.
So much the better. It is also, no doubt, a biblical commitment as she understands it but it carries with it certain obligations, in particular, that of not hiding behind a cartload of amendments as an excuse to postpone a decision for months.
Jeg har personligt stillet en snes ændringsforslag.
Van Minnen legal or linguistic nature which cannot be overcome with a minimum of fuss.
I alt har mine kolleger i den liberale gruppe stillet små hundrede.
No, it just won't hold water, this whole idea of textual refinements.
Det siger noget om vor foruroligelse og bekymring, men også om de utrolige huller, der er i denne tekst.
It must, rather, be seen as a direct attempt to torpedo this whole directive.
naie virksomheders ansatte?
they play within national economies.
Men til forskel fra fru Maij-Weggen er det ikke, fordi vi går ind for princippet, at vi under alle omstændigheder er rede til at stemme for forslaget. Vi vil kun kunne stemme for en god tekst, og som tingene står i øjeblikket, mener vi, at den er dårlig, ja i visse tilfælde endog meget dårlig.
And all the while they go on announcing massive closures, the most blatant switching of economic activities to cheap-labour countries — until, that is, they have pulled off their coup, after which they are ready to move on again.
Dårlig, fordi vi overhovedet ikke deler hr. Bonaccinis overbevisning i hans konklusion.
It should'have been in existence a long time ago.
For vort vedkommende vil vi stændigt fortsætte vor kamp.
President. — I call Mr Janssen van Raay.
I disse vanskelige tider kræver en virksomheds ledelse og sundhed dynamik, realitetssans og profit, ja, jeg sagde profit, samt smidighed, alt sammen kendetegn, der er blevet rakket ned af den socialistiske ideologi, der gerne vil være storsindet, men som i realiteten nedbryder virksomhedens organisation og stabilitet.
Mr Janssen van Raay. — (NL) Mr President, col leagues, the Treaty of Rome opted squarely for the free market economy but contains a manifest social section; we may, therefore, refer to it as a social market economy.
I går aftes rettede 15 000 foruroligede indehavere af små og mellemstore virksomheder under en eksemplarisk demonstration i Paris uden fortilfælde en indtrængende appel til den franske socialistiske regering, hvis retningslinjer truer deres virksomheders sundhed.
If we do not actively involve the work force in the enterprise's global state of affairs, it will cause a breakdown in the preordained system.
To gange i løbet af sidste uge har moderate franske fagforeninger ligeledes uden fortilfælde protesteret og strejket hos Talbot og Citroën mod bestemte fagforeningers diktatoriske fremfærd.
Taking a legal point of view on behalf of my group, and as a member of the Legal Affairs Committee of this Parliament, I should like to begin by congratulating my col league, Mr Vetter, who, in presenting his report to the House yesterday, as rapporteur of that committee, was eminently successful in separating his twin capacities of spokesman for the Socialist Group on the one hand and rapporteur on the other.
Formanden. — Fru Duport har ordet.
One asks oneself exactly what it is in this directive which so excites the employer's side.
Under disse omstændigheder ønsker vi ikke at gå på akkord i forbindelse med afstemningen om Spencer betænkningen, og at vi vil kæmpe for at få vedtaget en række væsentlige ændringsforslag til en tekst, som mange her, men navnlig inden for europæisk erhvervsliv, med rette finder for upræcis, farlig og for vag.
What makes them react so bare-faced to the comprehensive information and consultation of employees — a measure which changes nothing in the existing relative strengths between management and the workforce and which in no way restricts the decision-making prerogative of management.
Duport. — (FR) Hr. formand, fru Nielsen sagde for lidt siden, at der ikke fandtes eksempler på de af direktivet omfattede situationer.
The directive goes nowhere near to being a Community-wide regulation of works councils nor towards granting the latter, in a number of specific and crucial decision-making areas, a right of veto.
Måske følger fru Nielsen ikke regelmæssigt med i, hvad der foregår på virksomhederne, for det er ikke eksempler, det skorter på, når det drejer sig om at finde tilfælde, som alene ville retfærdiggøre dette direktiv.
There is nothing about this in the directive and it is all the more curious that such an impressive array of forces should have been mobilized for what I can only call a storm in a teacup.
For eksempel i forbindelse med virksomhedernes størrelse.
I challenge Mrs Nielsen to give me a single example of a commercial undertaking declining to invest in the Federal Republic of Germany or in the much smaller Netherlands because of the existing comprehensive system of co-determination.
Hvem kan man således få til at tro på, at man fra og med hundrede ansatte kan få indflydelse på den multinationale virksomhed?
In everyday com mercial life capital investment decisions are not taken on such a basis, but rather by using factual marketoriented criteria.
Vi vil som minimum foreslå to hundrede ansatte i den afhængige virksomhed og mindst tusind ansatte i koncernen.
The economic development of the Federal Republic and of the Netherlands in the post war period testifies to this.
Ingen national lovgivning — end ikke blandt de mest avancerede i Europa — giver mulighed for at gribe ind i et sådant tilfælde, fordi disse virksomheders strategi i de fleste tilfælde ikke er kendt af de lokale ledelser.
Seen pragmatically, one can introduce an endless array of legislation, but it will in the final analysis remain a dead letter unless it enjoys the confidence and support of management and workforce alike.
Til trods for at man regner med en omsætningsforøgelse på 30 %, er der varslet lukninger.
We are perhaps making life more difficult for our selves by taking on the more complicated side first.
Det er tilfældet med fabrikken i Amsterdam.
Be that as it may, small and medium-sized concerns do not feature in this directive.
Det er tværtimod dem, der forsvarer Vredelingdirektivet i dets foreliggende form, der svækker de europæiske virksomheder i forhold til de amerikanske og japanske.
Be that as it may, they have invested heavily in certain areas but, for all that, they have sucked untold millions in profits in that period.
Prøv De at tage til De forenede Stater eller Japan for at se, om der dér findes et eller andet direktiv, der giver mulighed for at få indblik i de store virksomheders handels- og finansstrategi eller forretningshemmeligheder.
It goes without saying that the top manage ment of such multinational concerns had felt the cold wind of economic recession and the inevitable slump it would give rise to — worse still, had even exacerbated it themselves in many cases — well in advance of local employee representatives.
Den uklarhed, der hersker på det område, er underlig, helt uacceptabel og en kilde til konflikter. For os er det et vigtigt punkt at få ændret.
Management had information which, had it been in the possession of the employees at a time when they were still a viable force, would have helped many to rescue something from the debacle.
På tilsvarende måde bør der heller ikke kunne sættes spørgsmålstegn ved den afhængige virksomheds ledelses beføjelser, således som den foreliggende tekst tillader det.
Multinational concerns like to stress their acute sense of responsibility and the exemplary role
Den lokale ledelse har aldrig informeret de ansatte eller drøftet fremtidsudsigterne med dem, men havde den kunnet det?
82 van Raay ballots of personnel to elect members to the works councils should be conducted anonymously.
Vi betvivler det. Nederlandsk Ford ejes for 95 % vedkommende af Ford Motor Company.
This is a point which my colleague Brok, among others, has taken up in his amendment and we fully concur with it.
Der tjenes penge, men der investeres ikke.
In Europe, just as in Japan and the United States, we are facing what we can call a global challenge.
Og det vil direktivet ikke ændre noget ved.
We live in the information and computer society in which it is imperative to take quick decisions.
Det vil næppe forværre tingene, idet disse virksomheders strategi styres ud fra helt andre motiver end blot at overholde eller ikke overholde et direktiv.
I therefore think that it is in that light that we must view this proposed directive, which had first been worked out by Mr Vredeling.
Det er et faktum, at dette direktiv — ligesom direktivet om deltidsarbejde — kommer i en tid med en alvorlig økonomisk krise, der til dels hænger sammen med investeringsstandsningen, og det gælder ikke kun for Europas vedkommende. mende.
I am afraid that, if the proposal is adopted in its present form, it may mean that we shall see less investment in Western European industry and, as far as the multinational cor porations are concerned, it is not inconceivable that, for example, the USA, with less attractive operating conditions in Europe, will find other places to invest, and we shall thus get into a situation in which hard fought-for jobs will be lost for Europe.
Nedlæggelse af arbejdspladser inden for den sekundære sektor som følge af den tekniske udvikling er en realitet i alle de traditionelle brancher.
The third point is, once again, of a legal nature. The bypass, as formulated in the Commission's draft directive, is both unsound and politically undesirable.
Den tertiære sektor vil snart blive berørt, hvis der ikke bliver iværksat nye foranstaltninger, og beskæftigelsessituationen vil derfor blive dårligere og dårligere i årene, der kommer.
This House cannot, in all seriousness, rap President Reagan on the knuckles in July for interfering in European affairs — and I, incidentally, voted in favour of the motion — only to turn around now and do the same.
Hidtil har de multinationale selskaber bidraget til væksten.
All of which is not to say that we are blind to the need for safeguards to ensure that the workforce and works councils do in fact receive the necessary information.
Det er, som jeg sagde før, tit sket på usammenhængende vis under udnyttelse af offentlig støtte og uden hensyntagen til arbejds tagerne.
But, as the Committee for Social Affairs and Employ ment 'points out in one of its amendments, this is strictly a matter for the law.
De har bagefter ikke tøvet med at slå sig ned i den tredje verdens lande på grund af de mindre udgifter til arbejdskraft og mangelen på social beskyttelse.
Thus, in cases where a local subsidiary company has been illegally instructed by the parent company not to pass on the information to which the workforce and/or works councils have a right, under the terms of the directive, the parent com pany must be hauled before a court within one of the Member States immediately and without further ado.
Disse omstruktureringer, disse omstillinger er hårdt og brutalt blevet påtvunget af filialernes ledelse, hvis holdning tillader os at mene, at de i de fleste tilfælde ikke har været herre over beslutningerne.
Together with Mrs Tove Nielsen and Mr Erhard Jakobsen, I have tabled a few amendments, Nos 212216, in which we seek to point out the need for serious consideration to be given to the competitive and operating ability of firms, if Parliament adopts the Vredeling proposal.
Vi kan også nævne Massey-Ferguson, der er en af de største fabrikanter af landbrugsmaskiner og traktorer, med sæde i Toronto. Også de gennemfører en omstruktureringsproces i form af salg eller nedlæggelse af virksomheder.
On the matter of secrecy I feel that a commitment by the works councils not to reveal elements of a confidential nature is a prerequisite.
Af 90 filialer i tredive lande er der i dag mindre end 50 tilbage.
I would add, in closing, that I am also in favour of postponing the vote.
Siden sommeren 1979 er der blevet lukket en filial i Forbundsrepublikken Tyskland og en fabrik i Skotland, hvilket har medført 1 500 afskedigelser.
My colleague Mr Peters has requested a joint approach on this matter of a post ponement between his party and ours.
Han siger: »Man skal elske det med måde«. For mit vedkommende vil jeg sige, at man skal elske det meget.
The company concepts are unclear and do not correspond either to nationally recognized definitions or to the definitions used in other Com munity company directives.
Og det er tilfældet med det foreslåede direktiv.
We must also bear in mind that traditions in the Member States vary greatly.
På den anden side er socialisterne af den opfattelse, at kun økonomisk demokrati vil være i stand til at bringe os videre ad vejen mod virkelig socialt fremskridt.
For example, in Denmark, where I come from, we have a good and long-standing tradition that the framework for cooperation at places of work should be laid down by agreements between the two sides of industry and not by legislation.
Så langt fra at være en hindring for den økonomiske udvikling er det uden tvivl den eneste løsning på de problemer, der er en følge af den store teknologiske omvæltning.
And we have often heard, for example, the Danish Social-Democrats and the Folkebevaegelsen mod EF [People's Movement against the EEC] speak out against legislation in the field of the environment and the like, because they think that is some thing which is proper to Danish legislation and negotiations between tbe two sides of industry.
Vi kan også nævne Citroen, der har lukket sin Forestfabrik i Belgien.
Unfortunately, I have to say that I have not heard the same arguments today in the course of our debate on the Vredeling proposal.
Chanterie. — (NL) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, i begyndelsen af 70'erne blev man i Det europæiske Fælleskab klar over, at det var nødvendigt at føre en aktiv socialpolitik.
The workforce is given information and consulted in practice, as I said earlier, in all companies in the Com munity.
Denne tendens er bl.a. udtrykt i sluterklæringen fra stats- og regeringschefernes topmøde i 1972 i Paris, hvori det blev påpeget, at effektive foranstaltninger på det sociale område er lige så vigtige som gennemførelsen af den monetære union.
We should therefore be very wary of imposing rules and frameworks for this process of information in such a categorical manner as proposed here.
Den anmodede institutionerne om inden 1. januar 1974 at fastlægge et handlingsprogram med konkrete foranstaltninger og dertil hørende midler.
It is my hope that we shall succeed in the course of Parliament's work to get the Vredeling proposal to function in the Member States and that sufficient consideration can be given to the normal legislation of Member States in this field.
Men alle andre steder, f.eks. i Sydøstasien og i forskellige andre lande, bygger og producerer man.
The intention has quite clearly been to secure the ability of the individual unit to take neces
Alt dette er meget usammenhængende.
President. — I call Mr Adamou.
I mit land blev grundlaget for en tilsvarende lovgivning allerede lagt i 1948.
We shall only vote for a good text, and at the present moment we consider it poor, indeed on certain points very poor.
For det andet vil jeg på det kraftigste advare mod en slags økonomisk afpresning.
It is not a choice between defending employees' rights or defending the rights of companies.
Anvendelsen af dette direktiv skulle medføre, at visse multinationale selskaber ikke længere ville investere i Europa.
In the Liberals' view the two are bound together, and it is only strong, organized, well-structured undertakings that create employment and happy employees.
I anledning heraf har Kommissionen fremsat en lang række forslag, nærmere bestemt i forbindelse med de multinationale sekskaber, bl.a. ni direktivforslag.
In these difficult times, the management and wellbeing of an undertaking require dynamism, realism, profit, yes profit and adaptability, all characteristics run down by Socialist ideology which claims to be magnanimous but which in practice disorganizes and destabilizes the undertaking.
Hidtil har Rådet vedtaget to direktiver, nemlig direktivet om kollektive afskedigelser og direktivet om varetagelse af arbejdstagernes erhvervede rettigheder ved sammenslutning af virksomheder eller dele deraf.
Last night in Paris, 15 000 employers of small and medium-sized industries, in an exemplary and unprecedented demonstration, launched an anguished but determined appeal to the French Socialist Government whose policies endanger the wellbeing of their firms.
I maj i år godkendte Europa-Parlament et direktiv om aktieselskabets struktur og arbejdstagernes medbestemmelse.
Still in France, twice last week at Ford and Citroen the moderate unions rebelled and went out on strike, again for the first time ever, to protest against the 'diktat' of certain unions.
For det tredje, og det kan jeg desværre ikke uddybe nærmere her af hensyn til tiden, erklærer mennesker, der hævder at være velinformerede, at Kommissionen er tilbageholdende med dette direktiv.
In view of that we shall not succumb to any laxism in the vote on the Spencer report and we shall fight for certain essential amendments to change a text which many people here, and more especially in European economic circles, believe quite rightly in places to be woolly, dangerous and laxist.
Man mener endog, at kommissær Richard har sine tvivl om denne teksts egnethed. Jeg ville være den ærede kommissær taknemlig, hvis han under denne forhandling tydeligt ville tilkendegive sit standpunkt, for dette fore kommer mig at være et meget væsentligt element.
Take, for example, the size of the firms.
Ved gennemgang af Europa-Parlamentets aktiviteter fremgår det, at dette emne ikke er nyt her.
We propose a minimum of 200 employees in a subsidiary and 1 000 employees in the group.
Det er et yderst spændende og lærerigt dokument.
These are the factors that force the big employers and their political representatives to manoeuvre.
Jeg kan ikke slutte uden at citere en sætning, som vor ordfører Tom Spencer har sagt.
The Spencer proposal in the Vredeling directive is especially significant for Greece in that it relates to a programmed development, a substantial participation by the people.