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Når jeg har sagt det, vil jeg gerne, i modsætning til de fleste andre der har talt her til formiddag, ønske Rådet til lykke med de fremskridt, det har gjort i en retning.
We have all heard the Council statement that they undertake to finance the supplementary budget in 1985.
Piet Dankert omtalte også en måde, på hvilken vi kan prøve at finde en løsning på budgetdisciplinen.
I am sure that he is not suggesting that this extra money can be collected from the UK who will then once again in 12 months' time be looking for their money back.
Vi er nødt til at finde en løsning, for hvis vi ikke gør det, vil vi aldrig få et rigtigt udformet fællesskabsbudget.
Like other speakers I must say that it is disgraceful financial planning to present an annual budget which only covers, by the Council's own admission, a period of nine months.
Pitt (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, vi er samlet her til morgen for at drøfte betænkningen af Scrivener, til lægsbudgettet for 1984 og budgetforslaget for 1985, hvis nogen skulle rejse spørgsmål vedrørende det. Må jeg sige ganske kort, at fru Castle, hr. Tomlinson og jeg selv har fremsat et ændringsforslag til fru Scriveners betænkning, der klart giver udtryk for den hold ning, som mine kolleger og jeg ønsker at indtage i den forbindelse.
Mr Romualdi (DR). — (IT) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, at this point, following the many speeches by the different political groups, most of which were very critical, I think all that is necessary for me to do, on behalf of the Group of the European Right, is to stress the consistent insensitivity shown by the Council, and consequently our governments, in budgetary matters, as well as their inability to come up with solutions which are not merely expedients or nebulous and mutually deceitful compromises.
Vi mener imidlertid, at Scrivener-be-tænkningen ikke længere har nogen betydning. Kun dette Parlament kan live den lidt op, og hvis man ønsker det, så kan vi stemme i morgen.
'Just enough to keep the wolf from the door' as the man in the street would say, and in effect they do just enough to get by with out having openly to accept too much responsibility and without appearing merely to be waiting for the worst to happen, which certainly most of them are.
Hvad tillægsbudgettet for 1984 og 1985budgettet an går vil der være bedre lejlighed for Parlamentet til at drøfte disse spørgsmål under fremtidige mødeperioder. Så i en vis forstand ønsker jeg i dag at koncentrere mine bemærkninger om, hvad jeg betragter som Rådets handlemåde i de seneste 3 eller 4 måneder, og om udformningen af de budgetter, som vi bør få forelagt i årene 1986, 1987, 1988 osv.
Do not let anyone try to fool us that all of this can be attributed exclusively or principally to the serious economic and financial situation created in the Member States by the political forces which govern them, to the burden of unemployment or to the other prob lems which have long beset them, including the giddy heights attained by the US dollar, the high bank rates and the frightening increase in the budget deficit of the USA, which does not, however, seem to have halted the continued growth of that country's econ omy or to aggressive Japanese competition or, even more threateningly, the new competitiveness of certain small Pacific states.
Gårsdagens restssag mod Clive Ponting minder os om den virus, der hærgede Nixons Washington, men i modsætning, til, hvordan det er i Storbritannien, er det i Bruxelles muligt at tale med Fællesskabets embedsmænd og bede dem om de virkelige tal for landbrugsoverskuddene, og hvad resultatet forventes at blive i 1984.
In July Parliament refused to approve the Council's decision to pay the UK rebate until the supplementary budget for 1984 was agreed.
Foran mig har jeg seks eller syv opgørelser over de forventede resultater, men jeg har ikke tid til at læse dem op.
This is still my stand and that of my group, and yesterday I voted against our weakening in that resolve.
Men tallene er bestemt meget skræmmende.
I was interested to read in the Financial Times this morning that four members of the Committee on Budgets voted against this release.
Vi har haft et absolut rekordår for afgrøder, og overskuddene vokser os helt over hovedet.
They were a small minority, three French Gaullists and one Communist opposed it.
Vi er nødt til at få dis se ting under kontrol, for hvis vi ikke får det, får vi heller ikke noget rigtigt udformet budget.
I am proud to be associated with the French Gaullists but I am an Irish Fianna Fail representative — a representative of the largest political party in Ireland over the last 50 years.
Vi får ingen penge til strukturfonde, energi, transport og udvikling.
And we continue to be in that position.
Min gruppe vil kræve, at udformningen af budgettet ændres fra fødevareproduktion til forbrugerens behov og behovet for investering i jobs, økonomisk vækst og industrielt samarbejde.
I am happy to be associated with my French colleagues here in the Group of the European Democratic Alliance and to have opposed the decision of Parliament to change its mind yesterday.
Schön (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, mine ærede da mer og herrer, det europæiske folkepartis gruppe har i diskussionen af tillægsbudgettet for 1984 fra starten af forfægtet den anskuelse, at vi vil tilslutte os det, således at Fællesskabets forpligtelser, som nu engang er obligatorisk givet, også kan opfyldes til udgangen af i år.
As Mr Petronio so justly remarked yesterday — America does manage to finance its prosperity and its debts with our money, mopping up our savings by skilful financial moves and luring us with high interest rates, because we cannot be guaranteed secure and efficient investment of our money in Europe, owing to the foolish politics of our incompetent leaders and governments.
Men jeg vil på det kraftigste advare medlemmerne af dette Parlament og medlemmerne af alle europæiske institutioner, hvis man vil sammenligne Rådet med en bestyrelse, som lord Douro gjorde. Han talte om at fralægge sig ansvar.
Finally, Mr President, I read with interest an extract from an Irish press statement today which says that when giving way at the Committee on Budgets' meet ing yesterday, some of the MEPs said that this sign of goodwill should now induce the British Government to be more lenient in its demand for stringent controls of future EEC spending.
Der findes en paragrafi britisk selskabslovgivning, der siger, at et direktionsmedlem handler ulovligt, hvis han eller hun fortsat driver for retning, når der ikke er mulighed for at overholde betalingsforpligtelserne til tiden.
As one who was at that meet ing yesterday, I can truthfully say that that was really the motivation of a great number of the Members who voted for the release yesterday.
Jeg håber, at Rådet vil opfatte mit bud skab som en advarsel.
As an Irishman I have had to learn my lesson the hard way.
Jeg siger ikke, at denne juridi
In fact Lord Douro, when speaking a couple of moments ago, went back
Jeg vil gerne forsikre ham om, at han ikke behøver at føle, at der er brug for en personlig undskyldning eller forlegenhed, for Parlamentet er vant til Rådets forsinkelser, og forsinkelserne i forbindelse med disse to dokumenter er faktisk det mindste af vore problemer.
But it can only finance those necessary for its bare survival. It certainly has not adequate money at its disposal to continue the process of integration in other words to finance the new long-awaited and vital common policies, particularly in the field of new tech nologies.
Det største problem er Rådets forsinkelse med hen syn til at træffe de vigtige beslutninger, der er afspejlet i disse dokumenter, og det er, når vi skal behandlet den situation, der er affødt af disse forsinkelser, at vi har de problemer som Fællesskabet står over for nu.
Mr Bonde (ARC). — (DA) Mr President, I should like to use the time allotted to me to ask the Council of Ministers and the Commission a few questions.
I den for bindelse har, og det vil jeg gerne endnu engang offentligt henvise til, overførslen af disse midler til kapitel 100 i fuld udstrækning vist sig at være et vigtigt bud getpolitisk instrument for dette Parlament.
There is of course a dash instead of an amount, but if this heading is retained the means can quickly be assured by making a transfer.
Naturlig vis kender jeg de kollegers betænkeligheder, som har forfægtet det standpunkt, at vi måske for tidligt har givet dette instrument fra os, med hvilket vi fortsat kunne have udøvet et pres på Rådet og Kommissionen.
My questions are: did the Council of Ministers unanimously decide that the way should now be open for the introduction of a common TV programme?
Med hensyn til tillægsbudgettet for 1984, undlod Rådet naturligvis at træffe de vigtige beslutninger tidligt nok : enten at begrænse vore forpligtelser — og jeg tænker selvfølgelig specielt på landbrugssektoren og de vigtige beslutninger, der blev taget den 31. marts — eller at stille de nødvendige midler til rådighed i tide til at opfylde forpligtelserne.
But how did we manage to secure the funds necessary to move forward, or to be more precise to mark time? As we know and as has been stated here, this was achieved by a commitment made individually and directly by each of the ten governments, a commit ment which in form and essence, ladies and gentle men, is a contradicition and negation of every Com munity rule.
De gjorde ingen af delene, og vi sidder med en meget utilfredsstillende situation, der skal føres ud i livet ved en aftale regeringerne imellem.
This way of settling the issue has per verted the function of the Council of Ministers and confirmed its present intergovernmental rather than Community character.
Hvis Rådet har den politiske vilje til at bringe Fællesskabet videre, er det simpelt hen nødt til at manifestere det især hvad angår budgettet for 1985, men fremfor alt med henblik på Spaniens og Portugals tiltrædelse.
And what kind of guarantee does this offer for a successful budget for 1985?
Når nu situationen i Fællesskabet blev så negativt bedømt — og så vidt ønsker jeg slet ikke selv at gå — så afhænger det jo ganske enkelt af, om vi er indstillet på at sætte det i stand til ikke blot at opfylde de forpligtelser, det har i henhold til trak taten — jeg tænker her på de obligatoriske udgifter — og på ikke blot at skabe forudsætningerne for at det, og det er vores alles politiske vilje, kan udvides, men også på at finansiere nye integrerende politikker.
It will be an inadequate, lopsided, incomplete budget, even from an accounting point of view, weighed down, what is more, by an additional condition from the Federal Republic which has, also begun to betray the spirit of Europe. Ger many refuses to accept the sorely needed increase in VAT to 1.4%, which was agreed upon so grudgingly in Fontainebleau and even objects to the intermediate rate of 1.2% until Spain and Portugal's still controversive accession finally takes please.
Det erlangt mere alvorligt, at vi ser 1985 i møde med total uvished om, hvordan Fællesskabets forpligtelser skal blive opfyldt hen imod slutningen af 1985, og med meget betydelige udsigter til, at løsningerne igen skal findes i sidste øjeblik uden om traktaten.
The budget also shows 1.6 million kroner for the development of European awareness in young persons and it appears that 1.2 million kroner were used in 1983 with a view to making young people more aware of Europe by providing more information in schools on the facts and problems of Europe.
Det, mener jeg, er en meget alvorlig situation, hvilket den ene taler efter den anden har understreget under de batten i dag.
Did the Danish Government give the go-ahead for the indoctrinating of school children with specific political ideas?
Når man ser sammenhængen mellem tillægsbudget, budget for 1985 og den videre budgetpolitiske udvikling i Fællesskabet, står og falder det hele med, om vi er indstillet på så snart so muligt at give Fællesskabet flere midler, som det behøver, hvis det virkelig vil nå de mål, der er fastsat i traktaten.
The draft budget for 1985 does not include all expenditure.
Det er imidlertid noget, der ikke skal overdrives.
What are the figures tossed about in the corridors?
Hr. Pitts tale, som vi hørte for et øjeblik siden, hvor han søgte at drage en parallel til et falleret selskab, var tydeligvis en grov overdrivelse, for Fællesskabets de bat drejer sig om hvornår og hvordan midlerne skal fremskaffes.
What Community contribution should the Danish Parliament reckon with for the next year now that economies have to be made according to the new finance bill?
Der foreligger ikke en situation, hvor det er umuligt for medlemslandene at fremskaffe de midler, der er behov for.
How much more will have to be cut to make room for the contribution for 1985?
Det, som Parlamentet her for langer, er, at beslutningerne bliver truffet når tiden er inde og i den rigtige form.
Will next year be the year when the Danish contribution reaches 5 thousand million kroner or 1 000 kroner per Dane?
Årsagere til problemerne i år er meget nært relateret til vanskelighederne i landbrugssektoren, og den udgør selvfølgelig størstedelen af vort fællesskabsbudget nu og vil sandsynligvis fortsat gøre det i en over skuelig fremtid.
Mr Ulburghs (NI). — (NL) Mr President, I am pleased to see that there are still a lot of people in the public galleries to listen to this debate.
Hvad jeg er bekymret over er, at hvor beslutningerne bliver udsat med hensyn til landbruget, er det land mændene, der ved dagens slutning betaler omkostningerne ved hastebeslutninger, og jeg tror, at det er urimeligt at forvente, at Europas landmænd skal be-
Ladies and gentlemen, in the light of all of this a Par liament such as ours, supposedly elected to build Europe — and this is indeed its function — but con demned instead to tilt at windmills and to endure budgetary and other disciplinary measures whose aim it is to strip it of its power, can have no doubt as to its proper course of action — it must rebel and tell the citizens of Europe clearly the wrong that is being done to them: the ineptitude, the falseness, the political dis honesty of those forces in our national parliaments
Vi er selvfølgelig nødt til at diskutere, hvordan Fæl lesskabets samlede finansforordning i fremtiden skal se ud.
I should like to draw your attention to two important points in connection with the budget. I work in a min-
Jeg vil gerne have disse to ting ført til protokols, fru formand, og jeg beder om, at sagen forelægges for forretningsundvalget.
Only this Parliament could breathe some'more life into it, and if you so wish then we shall vote tomorrow.
(Bifald fra højre) tale omkostningerne ved de fejl, der begås af Europas politikere.
ing community with Turkish immigrants and miners.
Det, som jeg ønsker, er, at Europas politikere i Ministerrådet lever op til deres ansvar.
In this connection I should like to propose that, with regard to Item 9630 in the Supplementary Budget, relating to the third Financial protocol with Turkey, no further aid should be given to that country until democratic freedom is restored.
Man kan se, at vanskeligere beslutninger er krævet inden for landbrugssektoren, og jo snarere Rådet ser dem i øjnene jo bedre vil det være, ikke blot for Europas skatteydere, men også — og man kunne sige, at dette er endnu mere vigtigt — for Europas landmænd.
As far as the 1984 supplementary budget and the 1985 budget are concerned, there will be a better opportunity for this House to debate each of those things in future part-sessions.
En forsinket beslutning hjælper ikke landmændene: det gør det en hel del vanskeligere for dem.
So in a sense today I want to devote my remarks to what I see as the conduct of the Council in the last three or four months and to the shape of budgets that we ought to be receiving in the years 1986, 1987, 1988 etc.
Cottrell (ED). — (EN) Fru formand, må jeg foreslå, at den korrekte procedure vil være at forelægge hele denne sag for udvalget for forretningsordenen her i Parlamentet?
At the request of Turkish democratic organizations in Turkey and Europe I went on a fact-finding visit to Turkey between Christmas and New Year last year with a Belgian parliamentary and trade union delegation.
Formanden. — Tak for forslaget, hr. Cottrell.
We met prisoners' lawyers, ex-prisoners and prisoners from the notorious Mamak gaol in Ankara.
Jeg har hørt, at den skal fastsættes til kl. 18.00 i morgen.
In the course of two hours in Mamak prison I met around 500 young people.
Hvornår kan Parlamentet tage stilling til, om det i givet fald ønsker at ændre disse frister?
That is why I am proposing to postpone financial aid to Turkey until democratic freedom is restored.
Til slut vil jeg gerne komme med en kort kommentar til svarene på spørgsmålet fra Notenboom.
My second point concerns Item 7027 on the reorganization of coal mines.
Det forekommer mig, at der var visse forbedringer i Kom missionens iværksættelse, for så vidt som Kommissionen havde kontrol med det.
As I said earlier this morning the management of the coal mines in Limburg in Belgium announced yesterday that a major mine is to close, making about 3 000 miners unemployed without new jobs being found for them.
Hvad jeg beklager, er at vi atter står over for en lang liste af beslutninger, der skal træffes af Rådet, og som først vil gøre det muligt at bruge pengene, når de er truffet.
What I would like to know is whether the relevant appropriations allocated for 1984 have already been spent?
Formanden. — Hr. von der Vring, dette er formandens afgørelse.
There is an article in company law in Britain which says that a director is acting illegally if he or she is: 'continuing trading when unable to meet their debts as they fall due'.
Jeg forstår, at fristen for fremsættelse af ændringsforslag er kl. 20.00 i morgen aften.
At that point in British company law it is the res ponsibility of the directors to call in a receiver or a liquidator.
Derfor, hr. formand, vil jeg gerne slutte af med at sige til formanden for Rådet, at han ikke behøver at føle, at han skal undskylde urimeligt med hensyn til for sinkelserne af budgetforelæggelsen : Rådets forsinkelser er en hel del større end som så, og han bør und skylde disse langt mere alvorlige forsinkelser ikke blot over for Europa-Parlamentet, men over for hele Fællesskabet.
I hope that the Council will take this message from me as a warning. I am not saying yet that that legal situation has arisen, but I am saying we are coming perilously close to it and I am certainly saying, leaving legality aside, that politically the Council is fuelling the fires of those people who say that the Common Market is not only bankrupt but shows no sign of becoming anything but more bankrupt.
McMahon (S). — (EN) Som et indlæg til forretningsordenen, fru formand, hvad sker der med fru Ewings anmodning?
Mine closures constitute an enormous social and economic problem which a number of areas in the Member States — in England, Belgium and elsewhere — are having to cope with.
Jeg er en af de personer, der lagde navn til meddelelsen til pressen, og hvad mig angår, blev ordene sagt, om end måske spøgende.
For that reason, in my opinion, the restructuring must be accompanied by two measures which must also be financed from the budget.
Jeg har forsøgt at lære fransk her i Parlamentet i sommer, og skønt jeg ikke rigtigt kom så langt som til at forstå fransk sans for humor, fremsatte det omtalte medlem faktisk, mener jeg, det forslag at disse jernbanestationer skulle bygges om.
First, the phased reduction of the use of nuclear energy, which is very vulnerable, expensive and dangerous; in other words we must abandon nuclear energy in favour of coal as a source of energy in which Europe can be independent.
(Afbrydelse fra den europæiske demokratiske gruppe; »sludder«)
Think, for example, of how society has deteriorated in South Africa, which produces a great deal of coal.
De bemærker, at de konservative har den samme res pekt for demokrati her i Parlamentet, som den de udviser i Storbritannien over for minesamfundene.
Having said that, unlike most people who have spoken this morning, I would like to congratulate the Council on making progress in one direction.
Jeg beder dem om ikke at imødekomme fru Ewings anmodning.
We must get an answer to it, because if we do not we shall never have a properly shaped Community budget.
På mit udvalgs vegne vil jeg gerne sige to ting.
In conclusion, Mr President, I have two further pro posals.
For det andet, dette skrift er ærekrænkende for Parlamentets tolketjeneste, som vi er helt afhængige af i hele vort arbejde.
First, that we should finance a research centre for coal energy, and second, that we should hold a serious debate on energy, concentrating on the prob lems of the coal industry.
(Protester fra den europæiske demokratiske gruppe)
I have in front of me six or seven sheets on the likely out-turn and I have not time to read them. But the
Saby (S). — (FR) Fru formand, jeg vil gerne frem komme med et indlæg til forretningsordenen vedrørende budgetproceduren.
Pitt such an appalling state — and I do not entirely agree that it is —, everything depends upon our will to enable it not only to meet its compulsory expenditure under the Treaties, not only to create the conditions it needs if it is to expand in the way we all wish, but also to finance new policies of integration.
De forhandlinger, som fandt sted tidligere på dagen ved åbningen af mødet, er ikke i overensstemmelse med vores procedure, som jeg gerne vil gøre opmærksom på.
Once we grasp the connection between the supplementary budget, the 1985 budget and the future budgetary development of the Community, the crucial issue is whether or not we are prepared to let the Com munity have as soon as possible the additional funds it will need in order to meet its contractual objectives.
(Høje protester fra de førnævnte pladser)
figures are very frightening indeed.
Parlamentets budgetudvalg skal komme med en af gørende udtalelse om en overførsel fra kapitel 100 til et andet kapitel.
We have had an absolute record year for crops and surpluses are com pletely out of hand.
Dankert (S). — (EN) Fru formand, et indlæg til for retningsordenen !
The cereals market is disgraceful.
(Kraftige protester fra den europæiske demokratiske gruppe)
On the milk market and the dairy sector I will simply make one comment: the Community must be in an apalling state when the biggest problem facing the dairy sector is the shortage of warehouses in which to put surplus butter.
Udvalget har således udfyldt sin mission i budgetproceduren og har oversendt sine konklusioner til Parlamentets formand i samme form som i juli måned.
We have to get those things under control because if we do not we shall not have the right shaped budget.
Parlamentets formand har således ret, når han vil forelægge dem for forsamlingen, således som det ske te i juli.
We shall have no money for structural funds, energy, transport and development.
Jeg synes, at Deres svar angående fristen for ændringsforslag til tillægsbudgettet for 1984 lod for me get stå i det uvisse, fordi De sagde, at det var formandens afgørelse.
We will have massive pressure for new ownresources which without discipline will again simply fuel agriculture and if we do not reshape the budget with discipline, we shall continue to have a common market based on food production and not the creation of jobs and economic growth.
Teoretisk set er det rigtigt, men en frist er blevet sat, til forbavselse for mange medlem mer her i Parlementet, og den frist skaber enorme vanskeligheder med hensyn til ændringerne af tillægsbudgettet for 1984.
My group will demand that the shape of the budget be changed away from food production to the needs of the consumer and to the need for investment in jobs, economic growth and industrial cooperation.