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For det andet er de britiske vælgere allerhøjst skeptiske og uentusiastiske, når det drejer sig om de europæiske institutioner.
I think that other votes will not take more than a quarter of an hour, and so I would ask Members to vote against the proposal to refer this item back to committee.
Når de for øjeblikket deler seng sammen, så er det mest positive, man kan kalde det, promiskuitet og det mest negative blodskam.
But I should like to say that the way in which this debate has been imposed on us, both in committee and in plenary sit ting, is not the proper way to go about it and is unacceptable. ceptable.
Beslutningsforslaget godkendtes
(Parliament agreed to Mr Bombard's proposal)
På dagsordenen står der diskussion og afgørelse i for bindelse med en pakke af forslag til reduktion af luft forureningen.
I have pushed it forward with the greatest speed, with my assistants working through the weekend, with the translation services working through the weekend, in order to produce a document.
Tre forslag til direktiver er til behandling.
I was appointed rapporteur on this only on 20 September.
Europa-Parlamentet har siden 1979 beskæftiget sig intensivt med denne emnekreds.
Of his colleagues, the chairman of the committee, Mrs Weber ...
Vi har talt om den sure regn, om aktionsprogrammer, vi har vedtaget beslutningsforslag, behandlet andragender.
I should like to say to Mr Gautier, who was probably not fully informed, that we have not had a report.
Også i gårsdagens budgetforhandling har vi tydeligt givet ud tryk for vor interesse for dette emne.
We have not been able to draw up the report because the time limit was so short.
Sidst har vi i juni på forslag af vores kollega Collins med støtte fra den liberale og den konservative gruppe besluttet at opfordre Rådet til at sætte emnet » bly i benzin « på dagsordenen for miljøministrenes næste møde og på dagsordenen for alle følgende møder, indtil man når frem til en afgørelse.
We asked our rapporteur, Mr Nord, simply to outline the views of the various com mittee members on a subject as important as this, since today it is Germany which is affected but tomorrow it will be the turn of the other industrialized countries of Europe.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er for handling under ét om :
It is a subject we must really get to grips with seriously.
1-781/84 — KOM(83) 498 endel.) til direktiv om luftkvalitetsnormer for så vidt angår nitrogendioxid
I can now allow only points of order and personal statements under Rule 67.
2-950/84) af Schleicher for ud valget om miljø- og sundhedsanliggender og for brugerbeskyttelse over
I have in no way been responsible, and I would please have the apology of Mr Gautier either now or in writing later.
Rådet har anmodet om uopsættelig forhandling i henhold til artikel 57 i vor forretningsorden, og Par lamentet har i begyndelsen af denne uge — om end med store betænkeligheder — godkendt den uopsættelige forhandling, fordi vi deri så en mulighed for en fornuftig afgørelse.
Mr Schmid (S). — (DE) Mr President, could you please tell us whether Parliament's Rules of Procedure contain rules for the conduct of duels — the question is not out of place in view of the way this debate is going.
forslag fra Kommissionen til Rådet (dok.
(Applause from the European Democratic Group)
Jeg appellerer til Deres ekspertise, idet det jo ikke er første gang, De beskæftiger Dem med emnet »blyfri benzin«.
President. — Mrs Schleicher, we have taken a major ity decision that the report is to be referred back to committee.
I så fald ville vi på ny have mulighed for at afgive en udtalelse.
That means that there must be fresh deliberations in the committee concerned.
Antony (DR). — (FR) Hr. formand, de europæiske højrepartiers gruppe tilslutter sig hr. Bombards an modning...
President. — The Rules of Procedure do not cater for such an eventuality.
Jeg vil gerne tilføje, at der er blevet uddelt et doku ment, som tilsyneladende er et pressecommuniqué om bly i benzin fra de europæiske højrepartiers gruppe.
President. — I have heard your request and shall ask the Commission whether it wishes to make a state-
De Gucht (L). — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne bede Dem spørge fru Weber, hvorfor man netop har anvendt denne procedure i forbindelse med doku mentet om blyindholdet i benzin og udstødningsgas ser.
Mr Collins (S). — Mr President, I was the individual, the Member of Parliament, who on Tuesday of this week rose and spoke in favour of urgent procedure.
Man har fortalt mig, at der har været megen diskussion i udvalget, men at man endelig i sidste øjeblik har besluttet sig til ikke at behandle ændringsforslagene.
I think that the seeds of this unfortunate occurrence were sown not by Members of this Parliament at all, not by Members on this side or on that side, or even these people in the middle.
Bombard (S). — (FR) Til forretningsordenen, hr. for mand.
Mr Gautier (S). — (DE) If Parliament decided on Tuesday to adopt urgent procedure, is the procedure under Rule 85 at all applicable to such a report?
Jeg vil gerne påberåbe mig forretningsordenens artikel 84, stk. 1, og anmode om, at Sherlock-betænkningen om luftforurening forårsaget af biler henvises til fornyet udvalgsbehandling.
If your interpretation is that this is permissible under our Rules of Procedure — which I doubt — I should like to ask you what the time limit is in which the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection must deal with the report, and whether the amendments before us will continue to be valid or whether they must be tabled again.
Det er nemlig blevet anmodet om, at sagen behandles som uopsættelig.
I have been told in the last 10 minutes by an official of the Council that this Parliament does not matter!
Men vi står nu over for 158 æn dringsforslag, og vi har først her til morgen fået fore lagt de sidste. Det er umuligt at indføje dem i teksten, og hvis teksten skal være forsvarlig, er det umuligt at holde afstemning.
Now, Mr President, I want to set the record straight: that is what I was told; this Parliament ought to know that, and this Parliament ought to know who its friends and who its enemies really are!
Gautier (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, ærede kolleger, anmodningen om henvisning til fornyet udvalgsbehandling er vel en relativ let gennemskuelig manøvre. re.
In reply to your second question, it may be assumed under Rule 85(4) that when a report is referred back to the committee responsible, Parliament may set a time limit within which the committee shall report its conclusions. This has not so far been the case today.
Det synes også at forholde sig sådan, at udvalgene jo havde lejlighed til at diskutere dette emne.
Mr Arndt (S). — (DE) Mr President, on a point of order, as regards a proposal under Rule 85(3), if a report is referred back to committee, so are the amendments, there is no doubt at all about that.
Transportudvalget har afgivet en udtalelse, og det samme har udvalget om energi, forskning og teknologi.
I take your statements extremely seriously and shall consider with my colleagues in the Bureau how we can influence this matter and proceed in the way you mentioned.
von Stauffenberg (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne spørge Dem, om vi er samlet her i Parlamentet for på en parlamentarisk måde at diskutere et alvor ligt og vigtigt emne, for på en seriøs måde at udveksle argumenter og for på denne måde at komme til en løsning, eller om det er for at stille os til skue for elektroniske massemedier, som — begyndende med
Mrs Schleicher (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, if it is possible, I should like to propose that the Commission be asked to comment briefly on the procedure and to tell us what the effects will be from the Commission's point of view if Parliament does not adopt an opinion today.
(Bifald fra enkelte pladser)
President. — Ladies and gentlemen, as Mr Arndt has said, under Rule 85(3) Parliament may hold a debate on a proposal from the President even if we do not vote today.
Når man nu ganske simpelt forsøger at ændre beslutningen fra tirsdag morgen — og at sige: vi behandler det ikke som et uopsætteligt spørgsmål —, så ville det have været mere ærligt at gøre det i tirsdags. dags.
I should be very grateful if you would try not to drag out this difficult matter by raising further points of order.
Jeg har som udvalgsformand forsøgt meget neutralt at fremstille udvalgets og Parlamentets holdning.
(Mr Sherlock and Sir Fred Catherwood asked to speak on points of order) another further shameful chapter to the way in which this whole matter has been conducted, railroading the committee and Parliament, and twisting the arms of Commissioners and anybody else who got in the way of this debate.
Jeg har henvist til, at dette Parlaments hidtidige beslutninger om reduktion af luftforureningen er blevet truffet af socialister og de kristeligdemokratiske medlemmer, men også altid med støtte fra de konservative og de liberale.
We are now going to waste the greater part — and I shall conspire to see that it is wasted — of the next 2 lh hours on a matter on which we are not able to take a vote.
Jeg må med største bestemthed tilbagevise, at dette blot er et tysk problem.
If you, Chairman, President — call yourself as you will — think this is a contribution to parliamentary democracy in this Europe that we all profess to love so much, you should go home tonight and sleep upon it.
Luftforureningen gør endnu ikke holdt ved grænser.
I trust you will wake sore-headed in the morning.
(Bifald fra venstre)
In accordance with Rule 85(3) you must take an immediate decision.
Hvis man læser forslagene, vil man konstatere, at de fleste er identiske og bortfalder, hvis to eller tre vedtages, fordi de så er i modstrid med det først vedtagne forslag.
I have clearly acted within the Rules of Procedure and applied the Rules as they stand.
Jeg tror, at afstemningen kan klares på et kvarter.
The PPE Group has proposed a roll-call vote on my proposal.
Jeg går absolut ind for at beskytte miljøet, og jeg mener, at der hverken vil ske økonomiske fremskridt eller udvikling, hvis ikke miljøet beskyttes.
It would be a good thing if we calmed down again and dealt with the individual subjects objectively.
Men jeg vil gerne sige, at de forhold, under hvilke det er blevet os pålagt at føre disse drøftelser både i udvalg og i Forsamlingen, ikke er rimelige og ej heller acceptable. le.
I know that many of you have asked to speak, but if I allow one Member after the other to raise points of order, it is unlikely to get us any further. Please consider care fully whether it is really necessary for you to speak.
Jeg vil gerne sige til hr. Gautier, som sandsynligvis ikke helt har været klar over det, at vi ikke har fået betænkningen. Vi har ikke kunnet afgive betænkning, da fristen var for kort.
Sir Fred Catherwood (ED). — Mr President, I should like to say this is the first time in my experience that a group chairman has been refused a point of order, and I protest.
(Protest — Formanden kaldte til orden)
Mr Nord (L). — (ML) Mr President, I respect both the decisions of the majority and those of the Chair.
... fra Weber er lederen, formanden, en tysk borger, måske størst interesse i at køre denne sag igennem.
Secondly, since both the report and the amendments have been referred back to committee, I should like to know, Mr President, what we are supposed to be debating.
Formanden. — Ærede kolleger, det tjener intet formål nu at påbegynde yderligere diskussioner her i Plenarforsamlingen.
President. — Sir Fred, please do not think I am disregarding your capacity or your group. Please look at the Rules of Procedure, and you will see that they state that an immediate vote must be taken without debate.
Jeg kan nu kun tillade bemærkninger til forretningsordenen og personlige bemærkninger i overensstemmelse med artikel 67.
I have acted in strict accordance with the Rules of Procedure and am convinced that you will agree I am right if you look at the facts again.
Den anden er endnu en af samme slags.
It states that in such a case the discussion is suspended.
Og den tredje også sådan en.
You can only suspend something which is actually in progress.
Det er ikke mig, der har forsinket sagen, det er dem, der har trukket den i langdrag, indtil de begyndte at kunne mærke de grønnes ånde i nakken.
We can also suspend the general debate and refer only the vote back to committee.
Jeg har på ingen måde været ansvarlig for denne forsinkelse, og jeg vil gerne have, at hr. Gautier giver mig en undskyldning enten nu eller skriftligt senere.
So I think that the application of Rule 85(3) was not justified in this case since we referred the matter back by majority decision even before the general debate began.
(Bifald fra den europæiske demokratiske gruppe)
Mr Sherlock (ED). — Mr President, I am delighted to see the coincidence of your occupancy of the Chair, where you intend to stick to the Rules in a manner which one of your colleagues, a little while ago, des cribed as 'Jesuitical'.
Formanden. — Forretningsordenen giver ingen anvisninger på det punkt.
You can ever so slightly belt up a bit over there too!
Weber (S). - (DE) Hr. formand, hr. Sherlock har fornærmet mig som udvalgsformand på en måde, som jeg må tilbagevise på behørig vis, da der på ingen måde er taget hensyn til, hvor alvorligt det, der her er sket, er jeg vil derfor gerne tilføje, at hr. Sherlock bør trække disse fornærmende udtalelser tilbage. ge.
Mr President, you have ruled in a manner reminiscent of F. E. Smith, the Earl of Birkenhead, and I quote, 'Previous people may have been rude accidentally, I am now being rude deliberately'. You have added yet
Gautier (S). — (DE) Når Parlamentet har vedtaget den uopsættelige forhandling i tirsdags, er proceduren i henhold til artikel 85 så i det hele taget anvendelig på en sådan betænkning?
President. — Mr Muntingh, what you have said is actually the same as I said a few minutes ago, namely that we should go on to the debate on the subjects before us.
ne uheldige sag overhovedet ikke lagt af parlaments medlemmerne, heller ikke af medlemmer fra venstre eller fra højre og heller ikke af dem i midten. Spiren blev slet ikke lagt af disse personer.
Mrs Bloch von Blottnitz (ARC). — (DE) I do not know whether the Rules of Procedure allow it or not, but common sense at least should dictate it.
Spiren blev lagt af de mennesker, som befinder sig i Ministerrådets bygning.
After that we can get back to flogging a dead horse, since that is all we are doing.
For ti minutter siden fik jeg at vide af en tjeneste mand i Rådet, at dette Parlament ikke har nogen betydning! Hr. formand, dette siger jeg for god or dens skyld: det var, hvad jeg fik at vide; dette Parlament bør vide det, og dette Parlament bør kende sine venner og sine fjender!
We voted on Mr Bombard's proposal after one Member had spoken for and one against.
Efter min mening er det på tide, at Parlamentet ser på den måde, hvorpå Rådet kan anmode om uopsættelig forhandling, uden at en minister anmoder om det eller begrunder det.
Thus those who had voted on the procedural debate have left, some to their off ices and others to a committee meeting.
Jeg har bevis på, at ministrene i Rådet ikke kendte til, at denne anmodning blev fremsat, og at den ikke blev fremsat af nogen med politisk ansvar, men af sekretariatet for at rydde alle hindringer af vejen.
Mr President, there is a saying in my country that you must distinguish between the letter and the spirit of a rule.
Efter min mening er det uacceptabelt, og jeg mener, at dette Parlament burde undersøge sagen ved første givne lejlighed!
You may well have respected the letter of the Rules of Procedure, that remains to be seen; but it is certain that you did not respect its spirit, and that is something I very much regret.
Arndt (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, indlæg til forret ningsordenen — anmodning i henhold til artikel 85, stk. 3 — : ved en henvisning til fornyet udvalgsbehandling er også ændringsforslaget henvist til fornyet udvalgsbehandling, det hersker der ikke tvivl om.
Mr Luster (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, during the procedural debate you were rebuked from the floor of the House, and I find this disgraceful.
Formanden. — Jeg har ganske nøje noteret mig, hvad De netop har sagt.
Mr Muntingh (S). — (ML) Mr President, I should like you to give me some information, and should like to give a few words of explanation.
I den forbindelse bør en kom missær efter min opfattelse først fortælle os, hvorfor en sådan er nødvendig.
N02directive, and the third is the directive on lead in petrol.
Schleicher (PPE). - (DE) Hr. formand, hvis det er muligt, vil jeg foreslå, at Kommissionen lige kort høres i forbindelse med proceduren og om, hvilke konsekvenser det efter Kommissionens opfattelse har, hvis Parlamentet ikke udtaler sig i dag.
I always enjoy listening to Mr Nord, especially when he is expounding the Rules of Procedure, but I must say that in this case I do not share his view but am in complete agreement with you, Mr President: a debate may be held at any time, as is stated in the rule you referred to.
Formanden. — Fra kollega, vi har med flertal besluttet at henvise betænkningen til fornyet udvalgsbehandling. Det betyder, at der på ny skal forhandles i det pågældende udvalg.
So I think we should not, as a Member put it just now, 'flog a dead horse' — she obviously has a farming background — but should now get on with the subject. ject.
Formanden. — Ærede kolleger, som hr. Arndt har sagt, kan Parlamentet i overensstemmelse med artikel 85, stk. 3 på forslag af formanden føre en forhandling, også selv om der ikke stemmes i dag.
Acid rain and the whole problem we are discussing is not caused exclusively by lead in petrol; all in all, that is probably one of the lesser causes. An enormous fuss is being made over it.
Jeg nærer ingen betænkeligheder ved nu at føre en forhandling om dette emneområde.
The report on lead in petrol has been referred back to committee.
Schleicher (PPE). — (DE) I forbindelse med den pro cedure, der netop er blevet vedtaget, vil jeg blot gerne bede om, at kommissæren endnu engang udtaler sig for at redegøre for, hvilke konsekvenser, det, vi har besluttet, vil have efter Kommissionens opfattelse.
This means in itself that we shall be able to devote considerable attention to this subject again later, and the subject justifies this.
Hvis De ønsker det, sætter jeg det til afstemning, også selv om jeg som formand for Parlamentet normalt selv kan træffe denne afgørelse.
I should therefore like to ask you to bring this matter to an end at last.
Jeg vil være Dem overordentlig tak nemmelig, hvis De vil bestræbe Dem på ikke at træk ke behandlingen af denne vanskelige problematik i langdrag gennem flere indlæg til forretningsordenen.
Please may we now proceed to a substantive debate on matters which are extremely important, namely the 'indus directive, and can trial furnaces' directive and the N02
Formanden. — Jeg har noteret mig det og vil bede Kommissionen finde ud af, om den ønsker at udtale sig.
we please come back to the question of lead in petrol at a later stage, since what we are now doing is com pletely wasting our time on matters which are totally unimportant!
Jeg tror, De vågner op med hovedpine i morgen tidlig.
President. — I shall ignore that offensive remark addressed to the Chair, Mr Sherlock.
Det europæiske folkepartis gruppe har foreslået, at der stemmes om mit forslag ved navneopråb.
It is our task to eliminate all nationalistic reactions and prejudices.
Formanden. — Ærede kolleger, jeg lader mig ikke provokere her i formandsstolen.
Certainly, what has happened this afternoon is, in many comrades' eyes, without precedent.
Jeg har entydigt holdt mig inden for rammerne af forretningsordenen og anvendt de eksisterende artikler i forretningsordenen. denen.
I have to say that in this procedural no-man's-land, I do definitely stand in fond admiration of the efforts of Mr Sherlock to bring this place into disrepute.
Sir Fred Catherwood (ED). - (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne sige, at det er første gang, at jeg har oplevet, at en gruppeformand ikke har fået lov til at komme med en bemærkning til forretningsordenen.
Sir James Scott-Hopkins (ED). — Mr President, I have been in this House 12 years and I am very sorry to see this House is behaving in this manner. I think what has gone on in the last three-quarters of an hour has done our reputation no good nor, indeed, the reputation of European unity.
Det må jeg protestere i mod.
And this I regret deeply.
Det ville være ønskværdigt, om man kunne falde til ro igen og behandle de enkelte emner med tilbørlig saglighed.
Whether it is your fault, Sir, or whether it is anybody else's fault, I am not going to comment on it.
Vær derfor venlig at undersøge, om De virkelig fortsat ønsker at komme med ind læg.
What it has done has brought this House into disrepute — of that there is little doubt.
Nord (L). — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg respekterer både flertallets beslutninger og den, der sidder på formands pladsen.
President. — I should be very grateful if you would.
Formanden. — Sir Fred, jeg beder Dem inderligt om ikke at opfatte dette som en ringeagtelse af Deres funktion eller af Deres gruppe.
What I hope will happen now — and the sooner the better — is that we will continue with the debate on the two reports which are on the agenda and get on with them as quickly as is possible.
Vær venlig at kigge i forretningsordenen.
The Sherlock report has in fact been referred back; we should now go on with the other two reports and get on with the debate straight away.
Dér står, at der afstemmes straks uden forhandling.
I hope you will so rule, Sir.
Jeg har fuldt ud holdt mig inden for rammerne af den gældende forretningsorden og er overbevist om, at De vil give mig ret, hvis De på et senere tidspunkt undersøger hændelsesforløbet.
What has happened in the last three-quarters of the hour will, I hope, be treated as water under the bridge and not be continued.
Sherlock (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, det glæder mig sandelig, at De har formandskabet i dag, og De vil sandsynglivis holde Dem til forretningsordenen på en måde, som en af Deres kolleger for lidt siden beskrev som »jesuitisk«.
Mr Prout (ED). — Mr President, I wonder whether we should not have a rule in this House declaring any reference to nationality an unparliamentary remark?
Forstår De, han gav en helt modsat fortolkning af dette Parlaments forretningsorden, og jeg vil gerne gøre opmærksom på nu, at jeg i aften har til hensigt at foretage en offentlig afbrænding af for retningsordenen, eftersom den ikke kan brages til noget som helst!
Mr Huckfield (S). — Since we have taken a vote in this House to refer the resolutions and the votes back to the committee. I really would like to know, if we are going to have a general debate, what we can have a general debate about, because it now seems to me that anything that we say, which we claim is in order, will then be in order?
Hold så mund derovre!
I wanted to make two points of order.
Jeg tror nemlig ikke, at den måde, hvorpå artikel 85, stk. 3, her er blevet anvendt, er den rigtige anvendelse.
If we are going to have a general debate, and we have already referred the subject of the general debate back to the committee, what are we supposed to be talking about?
Jeg mener, at det er tilladt at komme med den bemærkning.
By the way, do we, at this moment in time in this Chamber, have a quorum?
Artikel 85, stk. 3, omhandler tydeligvis det tilfælde, at der anmodes om fornyet udvalgsbehandling, når den almindelige forhandling allerede er i gang.
The second one relates to the relationship between Rule 82(1) and Rule 85(3).
Der står da også i artikel 85, stk. 3, at i det tilfælde udsættes forhandlingen.
The first sentence of Rule 85(3) states 'Where so decided by Parliament on a proposal from the President, which shall be voted on without debate ...'
Man kan kun udsætte noget, der allerede er i gang. Sagens forløb er tydelig her.
The question I want to put to you is does 'without debate' exclude Rule 82(1)?
Man kan også sige : Vi afslutter den almindelige forhandling, og kun af stemningen sendes til fornyet udvalgsbehandling.
I should be grateful if you would also refer this matter to the Committee on the Rules of Procedure and Petitions.