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Til trods for manglen på finansiel le og personalemæssige ressourcer er der fortsat en forpligtelse til yderligere undersøgelser og forskning på ældreområdet i almindelighed og navnlig deres levevilkår.
Sutherland of taking up other employment. I will certainly bear in mind the points that have been raised and consider the implications of them in regard to future research.
Når det er sagt, er jeg enig med det ærede medlem i, at det ville være ønskeligt at intensivere de bestræbelser, der udfoldes på fællesskabsplan for at forbedre de ældres forhold.
tion and research into the area of the elderly in general and their living conditions in particular is pro ceeding.
Som med så mange andre problemer er problemet af ressourcemæssig art. På grund af den generelle budgetsituation, som alle forstår, var det ganske enkelt ikke muligt for Kommissionen at foreslå en forhøjelse af hjælpen til ældre i forhold til 1984.
It is therefore envisaged by the Commission that it will be possible to reinforce the research which has already taken place by additional research which may lead to positive proposals being put forward at a future date.
Det er klart, at det vil være vanskeligt at føre en politik for de ældre under disse forhold.
I appreciate what he said about research projects but what the old people in Europe need are benefits in cash or kind.
Kommissionen er ikke desto mindre fortsat villig til at intensivere sin forpligtelse og sine bestræbelser på dette område.
The problem is that there are large discrepancies in Europe and I wonder whether the Com missioner could look at these and perhaps sympathetically recognize that, for instance, the pension level in the United Kingdom and some other countries too is barely half of the best in Europe.
For øjeblikket skal vi undersøge ikke-finansielle muligheder, som f.eks. fremme af forskning der kunne føre til en forbedring af de ældres levevilkår.
There should be encouragement given to governments like those to bring the pension level up to the best in the European countries.
Et første skridt i denne retning er, tror jeg, allerede blevet taget.
That is one question. Would he encourage governments to do that?
Det europæiske institut til forbedring af leve- og arbejdsvilkårenes næste 4-års program indeholder en række punkter, der vedrører de ældres levevilkår, og jeg tror, at dette program vil blive vedtaget henimod denne måneds slutning.
The first step to which I have referred, the involve ment of the European Foundation for Living and Working Conditions through its research programme and an analysis of this particular area, could prove to be beneficial in putting forward proposals which will be of positive benefit to the elderly persons to whom the honourable Member referred.
Forhåbentlig kan forskningen bidrage til de ældres velfærd, hvilket jo er det spørgsmål, det ærede medlem har rejst.
It is premature at this stage to identify the precise areas of research which will be undertaken by the European Foundation, but we are satisfied that the research will be worthwhile and will be beneficial in the context, in particular, of dealing with the problem of the self-reliance of old people living on their own who are in one way or another vulnerable, as has been remarked upon by the honourable Member.
Patterson (ED). — (EN) Nu jeg har ordet, slutter jeg mig til fru Lemass og byder kommissæren velkommen til hans vigtige portefølje.
Mr Patterson (ED). — As I have the floor, I join Mrs Lemass in welcoming the Commissioner to this important portfolio.
Jeg forstår godt, at problemet er af ressourcemæssig art, men må jeg pege på følgende.
I do appreciate that the problem is one of resources, but could I put the following point to him?
Det glæder mig at se ham på denne post, og jeg ønsker ham alt godt.
Would the Commission examine these possibilities to give tangible benefits to the elderly in Europe?
Vi bruger megen tid i Parlamentet på at tale om ungdomsarbejdsløshed, og måske er vi ikke tilstrækkeligt opmærksomme på problemet arbejdsløshed blandt de ældre, der bliver arbejdsløse ved slutningen af deres karriere og ved, at de aldrig vil kunne arbejde igen under normale forhold.
We spend a lot of time in this Parliament talking about youth unemployment, and perhaps we don't pay enough attention to the problem of unemployment among the elderly, people who find themselves unemployed at the end of their careers and know that they are never going to be able to work again in normal circumstances.
Det ville være muligt at etablere omskoling for ældre, så de kunne få en form for beskæftigelse, deltidsarbejde eller beskyttet arbejde.
It would be possible to provide retraining for elderly people to have a form of employment, part-time or sheltered.
Men socialfondsforordningerne, både forordningen og retningslinjerne, udelukker, at der ydes tilskud til andet end beskæftigelse på det åbne arbejdsmarked.
Yet our Social Fund regulations, both the regulation and the guidelines, preclude grants being made for anything but employment on the open labour market.
Det er ikke et spørgsmål om ressourcer, det er et spørgsmål om forordningen.
This is not a matter of resources, this is a matter of the regulation.
Vil kommissæren meget nøje undersøge muligheden for at bevilje socialfondsmidler til omskoling af ældre med henblik på beskæftigelse eller endog pensionering uden for det åbne arbejdsmarked?
Would the Commissioner look very carefully into the possibility of providing Social Fund money for retraining elderly people for employment or even for retirement outside the open labour market?
Sutherland. — (EN) Det ærede medlem har selvfølgelig ret i, at der stadig er en slags forpligtelse eller i det mindste en tradition, der berettiger, at nye områder af socialpolitikken sættes i forbindelse med arbejdsmarkedet.
Mr Sutherland. — I shall deal with the latter point first. The research to which I referred specifically includes the issue of benefits and the availability of benefits to old age residents in an individual Member State and their availability for members of other States travelling within the area in question.
Det er også sådan, at der til trods for, at budgettet som nævnt er yderst lille, har været afholdt seminarer og foretaget undersøgelser af problemerne vedrørende pensionering og i det hele taget de tilpasningsvanskeligheder, som ældre mennesker må ae-
The research is not limited to this purpose but it is being pursued and certainly I hope that it will have some benefit. The question has been raised from time to time in this House as to whether it would be possible to allow benefits to be taken by non-residents in particular Mem ber States when travelling to them and that is one matter that is being considered.
Jeg vil også gerne takke Dem, hr. kommissær, for Deres svar og de oplysninger, De har givet mig.
With regard to the question of the harmonization of pensions and other benefits, that seems to be outside the competence of the Commission at this stage.
Jeg er især foruroliget over situationen i Irland, som"-vil være kommissæren vel bekendt.
Mr Sutherland. — The honourable Member is, of course, correct in saying that there is still a kind of obligation, or a tradition at least, to justify new areas of social policy as being related to the labour market.
Vil De overveje, hr. kommissær, at ind føre et fælles aktionsprogram med henblik på at for bedre livskvaliteten for ældre, at forsøge at finde måder til at reducere omfanget af den vold, som ældre mennesker nu udsættes for, at forsøge at forbedre deres boligforhold og finde måder til at bekæmpe den frygtelige ensomhed, som mange lider under?
It is also the case that notwithstanding the fact that, as has been remarked upon, the budget is an extremely small one, seminars and research have been conducted into the problems of retirement and generally the difficulties of adjustment that elderly people have to accept when coming close to the end of their ordinary work ing lives.
Vil De også overveje at give økonomisk støtte til de organisationer, der hjælper de ældre?
It may well be that further studies on selfreliance to which I referred may encompass within the ambit of their responsibility the issue of the possibility
Det er meget muligt, at de yder ligere undersøgelser om selvtillid, som jeg nævnte, inden for deres ansvarsområde kan omfatte spørgsmålet om muligheden for at påbegynde en an den beskæftigelse.
Squarcialupi the honourable Member of my genuine concern and interest in the issue which has been raised and I will express that concern, I hope, more tangibly in the light of the reports and research which I receive.
Jeg vil absolut huske på de spørgsmål, der er blevet rejst, og overveje konsekvenserne af dem for den fremtidige forskning.
Mr Andrews (RDE). — First of all I would like to congratulate Mr Sutherland on his new appointment, wish him well and assure him of all my support.
europæiske befolknings stigende gennemsnitsalder — formentlig et problem, der ikke kan ændres — og som svar på Europa-Parlamentets beslutning om de gamles kår i Europa mener, at øjeblikket er inde til at ordne finansieringssystemet for de sociale sikringsordninger, især med hensyn til finansieringen af pen sionerne.
resolution on the status of the elderly, the time has come to regulate the financing of social security systems, especially as regards the financing of pensions?
Kort sagt: eftersom der stadig bliver flere pensionister og stadig færre til at arbejde — også på grund af arbejdsmarkedets restriktioner — spørger jeg, om og hvornår Kommissionen agter at vedtage foranstaltninger med henblik på finansiering af de sociale sikringsordninger.
In other words, given that the numbers of pensioners will continue to rise, and those of workers to fall — not least because of the shrinking of the labour market — I ask whether and when the Commission intends to adopt measures on the financing of social security services. vices.
Jeg påskønner det, han sagde om forskningsprojekter, men det, de ældre i Europa har brug for, er ydelser i kontanter eller naturalier. Problemet er, at der er store forskelle i Europa, Så mon ikke kommissæren vilville undersøge disse og måske velvilligt erkende, at f.eks. pensionen i Det forenede Kongerige og også andre lande kun er halvt så stor som den bedste i Europa?
In view of the cold spell and the number of deaths due to the cold among the elderly throughout Europe at the present time, has the Commission taken action to alleviate the hardship caused to old people by any means, more particularly by addressing themselves to the various governments who are inclined to cut off electricity at this time of year and cut off heating to the elderly.
Regeringerne burde tilskyndes til at bringe pensionens størrelse på niveau med den bedste i de europæiske lande.
We find quite frequently that old people, to keep themselves warm, get up early in the morning, take the bus into town and go through the shopping centres.
Det er ét spørgsmål. Vil han til skynde regeringerne til at gøre det?
Has the Commissioner any intention of taking action to alleviate the position of the old throughout Europe in the present cold spell?
Sutherland. — (EN) De spørgsmål, det ærede medlem rejste, er ikke noget, som Kommissionen beskæftiger sig specielt med for øjeblikket.
Mr Sutherland. — The particular issues raised by the honourable Member are not matters which are being specifically addressed at this time by the Commission.
Enhver analyse af de stigende problemer for de ældre i vort samfund vil nødvendiggøre i det mindste en analyse af alle de problemer, som Fællesskabets ældre borgere står overfor i de forskellige medlemsstater.
Plainly any analysis of the increasing problems of the elderly in our society will necessitate at least an analysis of all of the problems which face elderly members of the Community in the various Member States.
Der skal i en vis udstrækning tages højde for de varierende ydelsesniveauer og de forskellige sociale sikringsordninger.
That, to an extent, will have to take into account differing levels of benefit and different social security systems.
Jeg kan imidlertid ikke sige, som jeg allerede har antydet i et tidligere svar, at der på nuværende tidspunkt foreligger en konkret politik, for ikke at tale om nogen kompetence til at harmonisere de sociale ydelser på dette område.
I cannot, however, say as I have already indicated in an earlier reply that there is a specific policy at this stage nor indeed a competence in regard to the harmonization of social benefits in that area.
Wolff (L). — (FR) Også jeg vil gerne medgive kom missæren mine bedste ønsker i hans nye arbejde.
Mr Wolff (L). — (FR) I too should like to offer the Commissioner my best wishes as he takes up his new responsibilities.
Efter alt, hvad jeg netop har hørt, vil jeg tilføje, at jeg også ønsker ham et meget godt helbred til at gennem føre alt, hvad man forlanger af ham.
After everything I have just heard I would also add that I wish him the rudest of health in his attempts to meet all the demands made of him.
Det er måske derfor, de konservative ønsker at afskaffe det! Vil Kommissionen undersøge disse muligheder for at give håndgribelige ydelser til de ældre i Europa?
With regard to his specific inquiries relative to action being taken in regard to communications with Member States, I am unaware of immediate communications, but I will certainly look into the matter and see what can be done.
Jeg vil bare sige, at jeg for mit vedkommende ikke tror, at de ældre menneskers problem udelukkende er et pengespørgsmål.
I would just like to say that I personally do not think that the problem of the aged is simply a question of money.
Jeg tror, at de føler et behov for at udnytte deres tid, og at en af de muligheder, der her kunne åbne sig, ville være at opstille en slags katalog — noget sådant findes allerede i en række lande — over, hvad disse mennesker frivilligt kan deltage i, og som kunne være en ekstra grund for dem til at deltage i samfundslivet.
I believe they feel the need to make good use of their time and that one possibility here would be to do what some countries have done and draw up a voluntary service list, so that these people could be called on to give their services and thus have more part in the life of the community.
Mit spørgsmål er følgende: Tænker De på at opstille en slags fortegnelse over det, der findes i forskellige lande, som grundlag for et helhedsprogram der kunne foreslås?
My question is as follows: do you plan to draw up a kind of inventory of resources in the various countries, which might form the basis of a possible Community-wide programme?
Bymiljøer og navnlig de ældres boligforhold vil blive behandlet.
When does it intend to do something?
Sutherland. — (EN) Jeg vil behandle sidstnævnte punkt først. De undersøgelser, jeg nævnte, omfatter specielt spørgsmålet om ydelser og ydelsernes tilgængelighed for ældre, der er bosiddende i en bestemt medlemsstat, og deres tilgængelighed for borgere fra andre stater, der rejser i det pågældende område.
Mr Sutherland. — What I can say more specifically about the research programme to which I have already referred is that the four-year programme of the European Foundation will take into account the living con ditions of the elderly and, in particular, the actions on a voluntary or a semivoluntary basis that may be undertaken to help the elderly to remain in their own social environment and to help families who take care of elderly parents.
Undersøgelserne er ikke begrænset til dette formål, men de foretages, og jeg håber da de vil være til nogen gavn.
Urban environment and the housing of the elderly, in particular, will be addressed.
Det spørgsmål er fra tid til anden blevet rejst i Parlamentet, om det ville være muligt at lade ikke-bosiddende personer i bestemte medlemsstater modtage ydelser, når de rejser til de pågældende lande, og det er et af de spørgsmål, der er ved at blive behandlet.
Mr Sutherland. — I am afraid that the answer I will give the honourable Member will be no more satisfactory than the last answer he received, because I think on that occasion he was informed that that particular issue was being investigated by the Commission.
Jeg skal absolut huske på det spørgsmål, der blev rejst, og behandle det senere.
President. — Question No 6 by Mr Le Chevallier (H554/84)1:
Squarcialupi (COM). — (IT) Jeg vil gerne spørge Kommissionen, om den ikke i betragtning af den
Former oral question with debate (0-31/84), converted into a question for Question Time.
Problemet vedrørende de ældres isolation vil blive et specielt emne til behandling af instituttet i dets forskning.
The problem of isolation of the elderly will be a specific topic for consideration by the Foundation in its research.
Samtidig er der på det nuværende budget igang-
Contemporaneously on the existing budget, there are ongoing studies and surveys addressed to the same problem.
Denne undersøgelse er desværre stadig i gang.
Subject: Study of immigration in Europe
Men jeg kan forsikre det ærede medlem om mit oprigtige engagement og min interesse i det spørgsmål, der er rejst, og jeg håber, jeg mere håndgribeligt kan give udtryk for dette engagement på baggrund af de rapporter og undersøgelser, jeg modtager.
(a) inform the European Parliament of the number, countries of origin, legal and social position of men and women, whether employed or not, from third countries currently residing in the Community;
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 6 af Le Chevallier (H554/84) C):
(b) study the effects on national and social budgets and the employment market of the presence of this immigrant population in the Community;
Om : Undersøgelse vedrørende immigranter i Europa Kan Kommissionen
This review is now in progress, the review is almost complete, and will be shortly communicated to the Council.
Andrews (RDE). — (EN) Først vil jeg gerne lykønske hr. Sutherland med hans udnævnelse, ønske ham alt godt og forsikre ham om min fulde støtte.
(c) present the European Parliament with an assessment of the problem?
a) meddele Europa-Parlamentet antallet af mænd og kvinder, herunder både arbejdstagere og ikke-arbejdstagere, fra tred jelande, der for øjeblikket er bosiddende i Fællesskabet, deres oprindelsesland samt deres juridiske og sociale sta tus, b) uncersøge hvilke konsekvenser tilstedeværelsen af denne immigrationsbefolkning i Fællesskabet har på de nationale og sociale budgetter og på arbejdsparkedet, c) forelægge Parlamentet en rapport om problemet?
Mr Le Chevallier (DR). — (FR) I am glad to hear that we shall be getting recent statistics shortly, since the old ones go back to 1976 and indicate that there are nearly 14 million migrants in the Community, 75% of them from third countries.
Har kommissæren til hensigt at træffe foranstaltninger til at afhjælpe de ældres situation i hele Europa i den nuværende kuldeperiode? de?
I think it is a phrase which could be taken up in other languages. The term 'migrants' has two different meanings.
Sutherland, medlem af Kommissionen. — (EN) Kom missionen kan ikke give alle de statistiske oplysninger om personer fra tredjelande i den form, det ærede medlem ønsker.
Mr Sutherland, Member of the Commission. — The Commission cannot give all of the statistical information about persons of third-country origin in the form sought by the honourable Member.
Det europæiske Fællesskabs statistiske kontor har udarbejdet tabeller over antallet af per soner med udenlandsk statsborgerskab og arbejdstagere med udenlandsk statsborgerskab, der har boet i fællesskabslandene i de seneste år.
The Statistical Office of the European Communities has established tables on the number of persons of foreign nationality and of employees of foreign nationality living in Com munity countries in recent years.
Jeg bør sige, at den måde, hvorpå spørgsmålet er formuleret, tyder på, at spørgeren snarere relaterer de spørgsmål, han rejser, til spørgsmålet om oprindelse end om statsborgerskab, og Fællesskabet er selvfølgelig interesseret i ind fødsret og statsborgerskab.
I should say that the manner in which the question has been formulated suggests that the questioner is relating the issues which he raises to the question of origin rather than national ity and, of course, the Community is concerned with citizenship and nationality.
De tabeller, jeg har refereret til, er udarbejdet på basis af tilgængelige nationale kilder.
The tables I have referred to are compiled on the basis of available national sources.
De vil blive udsendt senest i slutningen af denne måned efter den kontrol, der nu er ved at blive foretaget i medlemsstaternes statistiske kontorer.
They will be circulated by the end of this month after the verification currently being undertaken by the statistical services of the Member States.
Fyldestgørende oplysninger om de vandrende arbejdsrageres juridiske og sociale sta tus foreligger imidlertid ikke trods Kommissionens stadige oppeller om en europæisk løsning.
Full information on the legal and social situation of migrants is, however, not available, despite the Commission's continuing advocacy of a European approach.
Disse spørgsmål afgøres stadig i stort omfang gennem bilaterale aftaler mellem de enkelte medlemsstater og tredjelande.
These matters are still largely determined through bilateral agreements between individual Member States and third countries.
Wijsenbeek (L). — (NL) I tilslutning til de gode ønsker til kommissæren vil jeg gerne stille ham et til lægsspørgsmål.
Mr Le Chevallier (DR). — (FR) My question?
Jeg fremsatte her for nogle måneder siden en forslag om at indføre et pensionistpas i hele Fællesskabet.
Would the Commission please use its imagination and distinguish between migrants from other Community countries and migrants from third countries.
Dertil sagde hans forgænger, at han vil le undersøge denne sag og tage fat på den.
The two concepts are quite different, if one considers the implications.
Nu bliver der altså foreslået noget, som ingen penge koster, men kommissæren siger ikke andet end »mit budget dit og mit budget dat«.
Twelve million people from third countries entering the Community are not just a migratory movement.
Det er nu engang et forslag, man kan gennemføre uden videre, og alligevel tøver Kom missionen.
President. — You cannot make a speech, Mr Le Chevallier.
Hvornår gør den noget?
Put your question and the Commissioner will answer.
I anden del af det rejste spørgsmål har det ærede medlem anmodet om en undersøgelse af, hvilke konsekvenser tilstedeværelsen af denne vandrende be folkning på arbejdsmarkedet har for de nationale og sociale budgetter.
With regard to the second part of the question raised, the honourable Member has asked for a study of the consequences for national and social budgets of the presence of this migrant population on the labour market.
Her kan jeg ikke stille ham tilfreds.
Here I cannot give him any satisfaction.
Det er tvivlsomt, om en undersøgelse på fællesskabs plan ville føje noget til til den viden, der er indsamlet i de allerede eksisterende nationale undersøgelser.
It is doubtful whether a Community-wide study would add to the knowledge assembled by the national studies already in existence.
Der er også, bør jeg sige, en fundamental indvending mod at vurdere disse omkostninger isoleret fra en
There is also, I should say, a fundamental objection to assessing these costs in isolation from an assessment of the contribution migrants have made and are making to the economies of Member States through their labour, their savings and their tax payments.
(') Tidligere mundtlig forespørgsel med forhandling (0-31/84), ændret til et spørgsmål til spørgetiden.
Mr Le Chevallier (DR). — (FR) My question is a request that the Commission should find two different words to distinguish between Community populations which change country in order to work in another country and populations entering the Community from third countries.
Fællesskabet kan heller ikke ignorere de deraf resulterende farer for de internationale forbindelser, der er af interesse og betydning for Fællesskabet. Kommissionen har derfor ikke i sinde at foretage den slags undersøgelser, som det ærede medlem har i tankerne.
1.85 timate aims of both the Community and the citizens of the Member States and those who have now come to reside in and be part of the countries of the Com munity.