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Genscher. — (DE) Hvis det ærede medlems spørgsmål gik på, om forbundskansleren også før valgkampen var for Europa og efter valgkampen fortsat vil være for Europa, kan jeg besvare dette med et ubetinget ja.
Mr Patterson (ED). — Even if they have not discussed it now, will the President-in-Office undertake, to hold a discussion on this matter in the Council of Ministers and to point out to the United Kingdom Government that now is a very opportune time for the United Kingdom and sterling to enter the exchange rate mechanism of the EMS because it would result in the abolition of MCAs, something which is always a drag on the Community budget, and would, incidentally, probably stop smuggling on the Irish border?
Flanagan (DEP). — (EN) For det første, blev Rådets stillingtagen i december 1982 fremsendt eller ej?
Mr Flanagan (DEP). — First of all, was the attitude of the Council in December 1982 sent forward for notation or was it not?
For det andet, var det på det pågældende tidspunkt ikke helt indlysende for udenrigsministrene, at lederne i Polen ville insistere på at optrappe deres destruktive taktik over for Solidaritet, og kunne man derfor ikke i høj grad have forudset det, der sker nu, og som vil komme til at ske i fremtiden, og derfor i det mindste have sendt en Protestnote til de pågældende myndigheder? heder?
Secondly, at that time was it not quite clear to the Foreign Ministers that the masters of Poland were going to insist on escalating their destructive tactics in regard to Solidarity, and was it not highly predictable, therefore, that what is now happening there and what is going to happen in the future should at least have been the subject of a positive note of protest to the relevant authorities?
Patterson (ED). — (EN) Selv om det endnu ikke er drøftet, vil rådsformanden så love at gennemføre en drøftelse af dette spørgsmål i Rådet og over for Det forenede Kongeriges regering påpege, at det nu er et meget velegnet tidspunkt for Det forenede Kongerige og det britiske pund at tilslutte sig det europæiske monetære systems vekselkursmekanisme, fordi det ville betyde afskaffelsen af de monetære udligningsbeløb, som altid er en belastning for Fællesskabets budget, og iøvrigt også med stor sandsynlighed ville stoppe smugleriet ved den irske grænse?
Mr Genscher. — (DE) I have listened very closely to the views which have been expressed in the various questions put here, and I shall bring these views to the attention of the Council without delay.
Genscher. — (DE) Det europæiske Råd har jo i København givet udtryk for den moralske støtte til det polske folk, som De anser for at være nødvendig og rigtig.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) The European Council gave expression in Copenhagen to the moral support for the Polish people which it considered necessary and right.
Det har i realiteten forholdt sig på den måde. De forventede.
It in fact acted as you would have expected.
Genscher. — (DE) Jeg har med overordentlig stor interesse noteret mig de opfattelser, der er kommet til udtryk i de forskellige spørgsmål, der er rejst her, og jeg vil omgående bringe disse opfattelser videre til Rådet.
Mr Sieglerschmidt (S). — (DE) Am I to understand from the answer the President of the Council gave Mr von der Vring that the Council forms an opinion only when it is clear from the outset that a unanimous view will be adopted, even though the Treaties do not pro vide for the unanimity rule in the formation of opinions? nions?
Sieglerschmidt (S). — (DE) Hr. rådsformand, skal jeg forstå Deres svar til hr. Vring derhen, at der kun tages et standpunkt i Rådet, når der på forhånd er sikret enstemmighed, selv om jo traktaterne ikke fore skriver en sådan enstemmighed omkring standpunkterne. terne.
Mr Fich (S). — (DA) Regarding the situation in Poland, I should like to ask Mr Genscher, as spokesman for the ten Foreign Ministers, whether the sanctions against the Soviet Union, discussed by the ten foreign ministers just before Christmas and since adopted pursuant to Article 113 of the Treaty of Rome, are also applicable in Denmark after 1 March, or whether Denmark is exempt from the sanctions at the present time.
Genscher. — (DE) De skal ikke og må heller ikke forstå det på den måde.
President.— We turn now to the questions addressed to the Foreign Ministers.
Genscher. — (DE) Naturligvis er det tilfældet.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) That is, of course, the case.
Men det kommer i væsentlig grad an på, at der und faktisk handles overensstemmelse.
What is essential, however, is that appropriate action is in fact taken.
Spørgsmål nr. 28 af
Question No 27 by Mr Flanagan (H-675/82) :
Formanden. — Vi går nu over til spørgsmålene til udenrigsministrene.
Will the Foreign Ministers inform the European Parliament why at its recent meeting in Denmark it failed to state unequivocally its disapproval of the suppression of Solidarity in Poland and failed to provide even moral support to the Polish people in their hour of need?
Spørgsmål nr. 27 af Flanagan (H-675/82):
Mr Genscher, President-in-Office of the Foreign Ministers. — (DE) In their relations with Grenada the Ten will continue to take account of all relevant political factors, including the question of human rights.
Vil udenrigsministerierne gøre forestillinger over for Grenadas regering, hvad angår dens politik med hensyn til menneskerettighederne og dens
Mr Moreland (ED). — I am grateful to the President-in-Office for that comment because of the ser-
Kan udenrigsministrene oplyse Europa-Parlamentet om, hvorfor de på deres møde i Danmark
President. — No, Mr Enright, we shall finish punctually at 8 o'clock, and I would ask you, in order not to waste any more time, not to make any further com ments.
Det er forskelligt fra tilfælde til tilfælde.
Moreland from one country to another.
Netop i dette spørgsmål må man handle med største omhu for at opnå positive resultater.
Success in this matter will require extreme caution on many occasions.
Moreland (ED). — (EN Jeg er taknemlig over for rådsformanden for dette svar på grund af den alvor lige situationen i Grenada, hvor folk bliver spærret inde m.m.
ious situation in Grenada in which people are being locked up and so on.
Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Jeg håber, De vil give formanden lov til at svare mig denne gang, da jeg ikke vil bringe spørgsmålet om Grækenlands løsrivelse fra EF på bane, men tale om Caribien.
Mr Alavanos (COM). — (GR) First of all I hope that this time you will allow the President-in-Office of the Council to reply since I do not intend to raise the matter of Greek withdrawal from the EEC, but to speak about the Caribbean.
Jeg vil spørge formanden for det politiske samarbejde, om han også er tilbøjelig til at bruge det, han sagde i sit svar til spørgeren, over for sit eget land, idet Forbundsrepublikken Tyskland er en af Sovjetunionens største handelspartnere og et land, hvor der sker krænkelser af menneskerettighederne med »Berufsverbot«? verbot«?
Can the President-in-Office give us some assurance that although it would be totally wrong to stop Com-. munity aid to Grenada which is being used to further the genuine interests of the population of Grenada, the President-in-Office would step in and try to stop aid from the Community, such as the possible aid to an airport in Grenada, which was clearly being used to support the Government of Grenada and its political interests?
Genscher. — (DE) Jeg tror, at det i tilfælde som det her omtalte er meget væsentligt, at den direkte hjælp til befolkningen står i forgrunden.
I would like to ask the President-in-Office of the Council of Foreign Ministers meeting in Political Cooperation if he would be willing to put what he said in reply to the questioner into practice in his own country, given that the Federal Republic of Germany is one of the main trading partners of the Soviet Union and a country it{ which human rights are contravened because of the Berufsverbot.
Fich (S). — Jeg forstod simpelt hen ikke det svar, jeg fik for et øjeblik siden.
Mr Fich (S). — (DE) Quite simply, I did not under stand the answer I got from Mr Genscher a moment ago.
Hr. Genscher sagde:
Mr Genscher said: 'It is clearly the case'.
»Det er klart tilfældet«.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) I did not use the expression 'clear case'.
Men jeg forstod ikke, hvad der klart var tilfældet.
I said that it is essential for the same thing to be done in the various countries.
Er Danmark pr. dags dato med i sanktionerne mod Sovjetunionen eller ej?
Naturally, there is validity in principle.
Genscher. — (DE) De principper, som jeg netop har nævnt med henblik på at sikre menneskerettighederne i alle lande i verden, gælder naturligvis også for vort forhold til Sovjetunionen.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) The principles which I have just said underly efforts to safeguard human rights in any country of this world also apply, of course, to our relationship with the Soviet Union.
Jeg sagde, at man fra tilfælde til tilfælde på helt forskellig vis kan tjene den samme målsætning.
I said that the same goal may be achieved by quite different means in the various cases.
Jeg ved ikke, om dette nu besvarer Deres spørgsmål.
I do not know if that answers your ques tion.
Jeg må med bestemthed afvise, at jeg ved at henvise til mit eget land ville sige, at menneskerettighederne ikke respekteres hos os.
I must definitely reject any suggestion that refer ences I have made to my own country meant that human rights were not respected there.
Men det har De uden tvivl heller ikke ment, da De ved, at dette ikke er tilfældet hos os.
But I am sure that is not what you meant since you know that that is not the case in the Federal Republic.
Formanden. — Da jeg forstår begge sprog, hr. råds formand, kan jeg forsikre Dem om, at De har forstået spørgsmålet rigtigt.
President. — Since I understand both languages, Mr President, I can assure you that you correctly under stood the question.
Genscher. — (DE) Udtrykket »det er klart tilfældet« har jeg ikke anvendt; jeg sagde derimod, at det konkret kommer an på, at der sker det samme i de forskellige lande. I princippet er gyldigheden natur ligvis til stede.
Mr Seligman (ED). — Does the President-in-Office consider that EEC Member States are prepared to tolerate continued disregard for human rights by ACP States and will he ensure that respect for human rights is incorporated in the next Lomé Convention negotiations? tions?
Genscher. — (DE) Jeg håber, at det denne gang er lykkedes mig at tilfredsstille det ærede medlem med mit svar.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) Then I hope that this time I have succeeded in giving the honourable Member a satisfactory answer.
Brok (PPE). — (DE) Hr. minister, da De har sagt, at hjælpen til Grenada skal gøres afhængig af overholdelsen af menneskerettighederne og af, at den kommer menneskene direkte til gode, vil jeg gerne spørge Dem endnu en gang, om De i Rådet vil se på Kommissionens planer om at yde støtte til bygningen af en flyveplads, der i den pågældende størrelsesorden ganske åbenlyst ikke er nødvendig for turismen, men i langt højere grad er egnet som mellemlandeplads til det sydlige Afrika.
Mr Brok (PPE). — (DE) As the President-in-Office of the Council has said that aid to Grenada is to depend on respect for human rights and on the aid being of direct benefit to the people, I should like to ask once again whether the Council will be consider ing the Commission's proposal that aid should be provided for the construction of an airport of a size that is obviously not intended for tourists but as an air craft carrier on the route to southern Africa.
Det gælder for ethvert land.
This is certainly not the case.
Genscher. — (DE) Vi vil helt sikkert følge indholdet af Deres spørgsmål op og se på, om der muligvis med den modtagne hjælp forfølges mål, der ikke stemmer overens med hjælpens sigte.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) I can assure the honourable Member that we shall certainly follow his suggestions and consider whether these resources will be used for other than the intended purpose.
De ved, at spørgsmålet om inkorporering af sådanne bestemmelser i Lomé-traktaten støder på meget store vanskeligheder hos vore aftalepartnere, fordi de er bange for, at det kunne være et dække over en indblanding i interne anliggender.
I believe the individual Member States of the European Community and the Community as a whole would be well advised to use the most promising method in each case to ensure respect for human rights in the various countries.
Det er bestemd ikke tilfældet.
The situation varies
Rådet ikke har beskæftiget sig med spørgsmålet og ■derfor ikke kan give noget svar, at gå videre med næste spørgsmål.
I do not want to evade the question as such, but I do not think I can give an answer because the Foreign Ministers have not discussed it.
Når rådsformanden har erklæret, at han ikke kan give noget svar på spørgsmålet, er dette spørgsmål færdigt. Sådan er det i ethvert parlament.
Mr Blumenfeld (PPE). — (DE) As the President-in-Office has said that the Council has not considered this matter and consequently cannot give an answer, may I request that we now go on to the next question.
Genscher. — (DE) Formanden for Rådet er ganske givet ikke berettiget til at anstille sammenlignende betragtninger over forskellige lande, også selv om de er regionalt begrænsede.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) The President-in-Office of the Council certainly does not have any right to make comparisons of various countries, even within a given region.
Vi må tage hensyn til medlemsstaternes eksterne forbindelser, og dertil hører, at vi udtaler os konkret om situationen i et bestemt land, men ikke sammenligner situationen i et land med forholdene i et andet, for hvis jeg begyndte på det, ville jeg kunne komme i tanke om lande, som De måske knap så gerne hørte omtalt, i stedet for det, De nu ventede at få som svar.
It is our task to consider the foreign relations of the Member States of the Community, which entails our expressing our view on the situation in a given country but not on the situation in one country as compared with another. If I started doing that, I would think of countries whose names you might be less willing to hear than the answer you were expect ing here.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 29 af Balfe (H­711/ 82):
Question No 29 by Mr Balfe (H-711/
Vi må tage tingene alvorligt!
That is the way it is in every parliament.
I deres svar på mit sprøgsmål (H­554/82) (') om, hvorvidt udenrigsministrene havde kendskab til, hvilke andre europæiske lande end Det forenede Kongerige der anvender plasticprojektiler, erklæ­rede udenrigsministrene, at det europæiske poli­tiske samarbejde »ikke omfatter de enkelte medlemsstaters indre anliggender«.
In response to my question (H-554/82)1asking whether the Foreign Ministers were aware of any European countries other than the United King dom where plastic bullets are in usé, the Foreign Ministers stated that European political cooperation 'does not cover the internal affairs of individual member countries'.
Moreland (ED). — (EN) Er rådsformanden ikke enig med mig i, at afgørelsen vedrørende anvendelse af plasticprojektiler i Nordirland og for den sags skyld enhver anden afgørelse angående Nordirland interne administration, af' udenrigsministrene og af Rådet ville blive betragtet som en sag for Det forenede Kongeriges regering?
Mr Galland (L). — (FR) I think we have to go on discussing this matter, Sir, for we have two hypotheses — either the Council is unable to reply and the ques tion has to be taken off the agenda in due course to respect the dignity of the Assembly or it feels it is not in a position to reply, but we go on discussing, because the item is still on the agenda. We must be serious about this!
Genscher. — (DE) Dette spørgsmål falder i hvert fald ikke ind under det europæiske politiske samarbejde.
Mr Moreland (ED). — Would the President-in-Office not agree with me that decisions as to the use of plastic bullets in Northern Ireland and indeed any other decision relating to the internal administration of Norhern Ireland would be regarded by the Foreign Ministers and the Council as a matter for the United Kingdom Government?
Er udenrigsministrene klar over, at der findes næsten dobbelt så mange europæiske lande uden for som inden for Fællesskabet, og at udenrigsmi­nistrene tidligere ofte har udtalt sig om enkelte europæiske landes interne anliggender, for eksempel Polen, og vil udenrigsministrene, da det fremgår, at plasticprojektiler er blevet anvendt i Schweiz, fordømme denne krænkelse af menne­skerettigheder med samme styrke, som de har gjort det over for andre lande?
Are the Foreign Ministers aware that there are almost twice as many European countries outside the Common Market as there are within it and that in the past Foreign Ministers have frequently passed comment on the internal affairs of individual European countries, for example, Poland and as it is understood that rubber bullets have been used in Switzerland, will the Foreign Ministers condemn this violation of human rights with the same vigour that they have demonstrated with regard to other countries?
Genscher, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (DE) De Ti's udenrigsministre har ikke drøftet dette spørgs­mål.
Mr Genscher, President-in-Office of the Foreign Ministers. — (DE) The Foreign Ministers of the Ten have not discussed this question.
Derfor kan jeg heller ikke tage stilling til det.
I cannot therefore express an opinion on it.
Enright (S). — (EN) Mener rådsformanden ikke, at det er en langt alvorligere krænkelse af menneskeret­tighederne, at det ikke er lykkedes nord at hindre syd i at sulte, at hr. Moreland forsøger at importere en øst­vest konflikt i Grenada, og at det ikke er lykkedes os at mætte Vietnams sultende befolkning?
Mr Enright (S). — Would the President-in-Office not agree that, in fact, a far greater violation of human rights is the failure of the North to stop the South starving, Mr Moreland's attempt to import into Grenada an East-West conflict and our failure to feed the starving people of Vietnam?
Er det ikke en skandale, at formanden for Rådet har givet os fuldstændigt utilfredsstillende og totalt uniformerede svar på alle disse spørgsmål?
Is it not scandalous that the President-in-Office of the Council has given us totally unsatisfactory and completely ignorant answers on all those questions?
Balfe (S). — (EN) Finder De det ikke besynderligt, at et Fællesskab, der er i stand til at tilkendegive sine meninger om ethvert andet emne og ethvert andet land i verden, tilsyneladende er ude af stand til at beskæftige sig med det, der foregår inden for Europas grænser, både Fællesskabets Europa og de andre dele af Europa?
Mr Balfe (S). — Do you not regard it as strange that a Community which is able to give opinions on every other subject and every other country in the world appears unable to turn its attention to what is going on within Europe, both Community Europe and the other parts of Europe?
Jeg er helt sikker på, at hvis plasticprojek­tilerne i Schweiz blev anvendt i Sovjetunionen eller i Polen, ville vi have mange bemærkninger til dem.
I am quite sure that if the rubber bullets used in Switzerland were being used in the Soviet Union or in Poland, we would have many comments to make on them.
Genscher. — (DE) Jeg er ikke ganske sikker på, at dette spørgsmål virkelig falder ind under det euro­pæiske politiske samarbejde.
Will the Foreign Ministers meeting in political cooperation review their policies for deciding which ques-
1982 (foreløbig udgave).
1982 (provisional edition).
8.3.83 van Minnen (S). — (NL) Jeg er ked af at måtte afbryde en dame, men Deres ord er lov, hr. formand, og De har givet mig ordet.
Genscher speak on all questions and, on some occasions, such as Question 5, you took three from the Conservatives ...
Ewing (DEP). — (EN) Hr. formand, klokken er endnu ikke otte.
President. — Mrs Ewing, I am stopping you there. You are not putting a point of order.
Mit indlæg til forretningsordenen er en kritik af Deres ledelse af spørgetiden.
I forbid you to speak. Moreover, Annex I of the Rules of Procedure gives me the right to exercise the presidency as I see fit.
Som en, der deltager regelmæssigt, nåede De et patetisk antal spørgsmål ved ikke at følge praksis, og i tilfældet med udenrigsministrene nåede De kun tre.
You have to agree on that among yourselves in Parliament. The President of the Council would not like to interfere in such matters. ters.
De har ændret en af Parlamentets bestemmelser om, at højst én fra hver gruppe må tale i forbindelse med et spørgsmål, at mindst én fra hver gruppe skal have ordet ved hvert spørgsmål, og i visse tilfælde, således ved spørgsmål nr. 5, tog De tre fra de konservative ...
Mr Van Minnen (S). — (NL) I hesitate to cut across the bows of a lady in rhetorical flight, but your word is law, Mr President, and you have given me the floor, and so I ask Mr Genscher in passing whether he could' not tell us for which unsatisfactory answers he considers himself responsible and for which not, and then our next question time can run considerably more smoothly.
Formanden. — Først del af spørgetiden er afsluttet («).
President. — The first part of Question Time is concluded1. ,
Formanden. — Kære kollega, jeg fratager Dem ordet.
Mrs Ewing (DEP). — Mr President it is not yet 8 o'clock.
Jeg fratager Dem ordet, og bilag I i forretningsordenen giver mig ret til at bestride formandshvervet, som jeg vil.
As one who regularly participates you reached a pathetic number of questions by not following precedents and, in the case of the Foreign Ministers, you only reached three.
Vær'venlig ikke at give fru Ewing mikrofonen.
(The sitting was closedat 8p.m.)1
(') Se bilag af 9. 3. 1983. (!)
See Annex of 9. 3.
MØDET ONSDAG DEN 9. MARTS 1983
SITTING OF WEDNESDAYS MARCH 1983
1-1346/82) (fortsættelse):
1-1346/82) (continuation): tion):
Gennemførelse af artikel 8 i forretningsordenen. — Betænkning (dok.
Implementing Rule 8 of the Rules of Procedure — Report (Doc.
1-1097/82) af Nord:
1-1097/82) by Mr Nord:
Spørgsmål nr. 40 af Galland: Genoptagelse af nord-syd-dialogen :
Questions to the Commission:
Spørgsmål nr. 41 af Mäher: En rimelig fordeling af ansvaret mellem kommissionsmedlem merne:
Question No 40, by Mr Galland: Re sumption of the North-South dialogue: Mr Ortoli (Commission); Mr Galland; Mr Ortoli; Mr Herman; Mr Ortoli; Mr Denis; Mr Ortoli; Mr G. Fuchs; Mr Or toli
Budgetpolitik for 1984 (fortsættelse):
Budgetary policy for 1984 (continuation): Mr Alavanos; Mr Adam; Mr Lange ....
Landbrugsethanol. — 1-1192/82) af Dalsass:
Ethyl alcohol — Report (Doc. 1-1192/82) by MrDalsass:
Spørgsmål nr. 43 af Deniau: Udviklingen i handelen mellem Øst- og Vesttyskland og konsekvenserne heraf for samhandelen inden for Fællesskabet:
Question No 42, by Mr Davem: 'Imported' inflation in Ireland:
Spørgsmål nr. 46 af Israël: Storbritanniens tilslutning til det europæiske monetære system:
Question No 43, by Mr Deniau: Growth of inter-German trade and repercussions on trade within the Community:
1-1177/82) af Provan:
1-1177/82) by Mr Provan:
Erklæring fra formanden om fortolkningen af artikel 85 i forretningsordenen:
Statement by the Bureau on the interpretation of Rule 85 of the Rules ofProcedure: Mr Nord; Mr Dalsass; Mr von der Vring; Mr Pranchère
Spørgsmål nr. 51 af Rogalla: Kulstøtte:
Question No 50, by Sir Fred Warner: The shooting of thrushes:
Indikatorer i mælk. — Betænkning 1-1175/82) af Diana:
Indicator substance in milk — Report (Doc. 1-1175/82) by Mr Diana:
Afstemninger: Chambeiron, Albers, Ziagas, Gouthier, Forth, Balfour, Kyrkos
Mr Chambeiron; Mr Bournias; Mr Kyrkos; Mr Albers; Mr Ziagas; Mr Gouthier; Mr Ephremidis;
(Mødet åbnet kl. 9.00) (') altid suverænt, det kan godt vedtage at behandle forslagene under ét.
(The sitting was opened at 9 a.m.)1
Jeg tager således Deres anmodning til efterretning, og jeg vil også sætte mig i forbindelse med gruppens formand, hr. Barbi, der nu skal deltage i præsidiets møde.
President. — Mr Clinton, Mr Vinci, who attended the Bureau meeting, has just informed me that the matter was not discussed in these terms. You have been misinformed therefore.
Vi tager altså hensyn til Deres bemærkning, og vi stiler mod at finde en løsning, men det er i sidste række Parlamentet, der træffer afgørelsen.
The plenary Assembly always has the final say in such matters and is perfectly free.therefore to decide to have a joint debate.