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Det bliver endnu mere kompliceret. — Jeg ser helt bort fra finansieringen. — Man har altid sagt til os, at Fællesskabet skulle være for bureaukratisk. Der skulle være for mange bureaukrater, og det var et forfærdelig tungtvirkende apparat.
My colleague, Mr Lomas, spelled out clearly the kind of things we think the European Community should be doing at the present time.
Derfor skulle det hele gøres meget smartere og lægges i hænderne på industrien.
Even so some of these changes, small as they may be, are changes that we cannot accept.
Nu skal der endog være et Eureka-sekretariat under en Eureka-ministerrådskonferences ægide, altså en gentagelse af det,, vi allerede har i Fællesskabet, men denne gang med atten stater!
For example, the reference to monetary union may not mean anything practical, but it is an undesirable path of the freedom of Member Govern ments to pursue their own policy.
Jeg formoder at engang i fremtiden vil parlamentarikerne fra disse lande spørge, hvordan det skal kontrolleres. På et eller an-
Putting an end to qualified voting on Article 100, which is always used to extend the power, is very dangerous.
Der er to andre spørgsmål, der atter og atter har beskæftiget os her.
Furthermore, it is a myth to think that the internal market is going to bring benefit.
Netop dem burde man hjælpe.
That just will not work.
Vi har engang haft de små og mellemstore virksomheders år, hvor man har afgivet store erklæringer, der sandsynligvis ikke er kommet længere end til papiret.
You have got the common agricultural policy, for example.
Eller hvor er solidariteten mellem de rige og de fattige regioner med henrem til Eureka-programmet? I Fæl lesskabet har vi dog gjort langt bedre erfaringer, og dem burde vi støtte.
That is not a matter of one or two governments actually preventing change.
Når vi fører teknologipolitik uden om Parlamentet, hvordan vil vi — det spørger jeg Dem om — i frem tiden vurdere teknologien?
Not only Parliament, not only the Commission, but our citizens as well, have a right to recognize and understand that the Council is a partner in the dialogue, as the most important and most powerful organ in the Community so that we know with whom we have to deal and who really bears the responsibility.
Skal vi virkelig overlade det til industrien, eller kan Parlamentet selv placere sig her?
In this connection we should remember Article 20 of this House's draft treaty.
Her foran sidder vores formand for Kommissionen, han skal nok klare det.
Yet the answer given to that is: 'That has failed.
Det har vi fuld tillid til.
Give us more of the same.'
Hvorfor ikke inden for Det europæiske Fællesskab, hvorfor denne vej?
I think that is completely the wrong point of view.
Schmit (S). — (FR) Fru formand, mine damer og herrer, i Det europæiske Fællesskab følger formand skaber og taler på hinanden, men de ligner ikke nødvendigvis hinanden!
Mr Stauffenberg (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, two points: if, as President Santer said so impressively in his speech today, this summit has brought some progress and has equipped or will equip the Community with the further powers which it needs in order to fulfil its obligations with regard to the internal market, research and technology, cohesion and environmental protection, then that is something to be welcomed.
Således har det luxembourgske formandskab givetvis den fortjeneste endnu en gang at have formået at bevise, at selv et land af Luxembourgs størrelse er i stand til at gøre det godt, dersom de intellektuelle og moralske kvalifikationer, erfaringerne fra en europæisk fortid, der på samme tid var smertelig, men uden brist og uden dadel, og den gode vilje er for hånden.
Mr Cohen (S). — (NL) Madam President, the use of the Community method, which President Delors discussed so lucidly this morning, means not only trying to keep 10 or 12 Member States together but also trying to maintain a balance.
En lektie, der måske af en geografisk lille medlemsstat kunne gives videre til en række af de store, der, når de vender tilbage til formandskabet, alt andet lige og med et gran ironi — of course, selbstverständlich, évidemment — skulle gøre det tre hundrede gange bedre!
If we of the European Parliament — and I assume this is what is going to happen shortly — condemn parts of what are now known as 'the provisional conclusions of the chairman of the Intergovernmental Conference', we shall do so because we are concerned about maintaining this balance. ance.
Som luxembourger vil jeg gerne takke mine lands mænd, regeringsmedarbejdere og tjenestemænd uden skelnen, for den materielle og personlige indsats de har gjort.
But that progress has no counterpart in the structures of the Community, in its decisionmaking structures.
Jeg beder tolkene undskylde de forvoldte vanskelig heder, men lægger vægt på, at min lille sætning kom mer med i protokollen :
That is why it is no longer acceptable for the Com munity to become undemocratic to the point where it has to provide itself with new powers in order to retain the same degree of democracy.
Lambrias (PPE). — (GR) Fru formand, mine damer og herrer, mine herrer formænd for Rådet og Kom missionen. Jeg erkender, at jeg misunder alle dem, som er i denne sal, uden at deres hjerter banker for Europa-unionen.
The resolution tabled by the Committee on Institutional Affairs says we consider that the results — which I will discuss in a moment — of the European Council meeting as a whole are unsatisfactory and that we cannot accept those relating to Parliament's powers, which is our primary concern.
De har let ved at filtrere Luxembourg-topmødets afgørelser gennem lokale, partimæssige, nationale, måske endog dogmatiske filtre, i hvert fald ikke-europæiske filtre, og enten beklage sig eller ironisere over disse afgørelser.
The results are unsatisfactory because there is no say ing that the internal market will be completed by 1992, because we can hardly regard invoking Article 236 over the monetary problems as progress and because we do not believe the Council should deprive the Commission of executive powers.
De foreslår ikke konkrete løsninger. Men alle, som deltager i dette møde, fordi de tror på den europæiske idé, fordi de kæmper for den, fordi de er valgt af folket for at bidrage til opbygningen af et fælles demokratisk Europa, står i dag over for et stort dilemma : skal de — spørger de sig selv — forkaste topmødets afgørelser, fordi de lig ger milevidt fra deres drømme, eller bør de tværtimod anerkende alle de positive ting — selv om de var få — der blev vedtaget for med udgangspunkt i disse afgørelser at fortsætte deres kamp mod alle de negative punkter, der fortsat hindrer Europas vej frem?
Even after the Luxembourg decisions on the future participation of Parliament and President Santer's encouraging interpretation of the outstanding questions and of the Foreign Ministers' task, the situation remains the customary one: the members of the national governments, the executive power that is, are claiming for themselves at Community level collective superiority and prerogatives as a legislative and executive power enjoying freedom from control to an extent which everyone back home, i.e. at national level, would regard as a deadly sin against the sacred principles of their own constitution and their own under standing of democracy.
Schmit mere positive og præcise konturer.
Cohen can content ourselves with bringing pressure to bear from time to time.
Blumenfeld (PPE). — (DE) Fru formand, vi fører i dag en første principiel debat, en slags første behandling, der endnu ikke kan føre til en definitiv holdning fra Europa-Parlamentets side. Vi vil afvente Rådets møde den 16. og 17. december og hvad der sker dér, før vi i enkeltheder tager stilling.
Leaving aside the question of the conclusions the Italian Government draws as a result of this afternoon's debate — after all, we decided five months ago that this debate would take place here and now — I believe the European Parliament has no alternative but to express its disapproval of the results of the Luxembourg meeting where they concern Parliament's powers. ers.
Mine herrer, de progressive europæiske kvinder ønsker politiske konferencer, ikke familiekonferencer. Som socialist og internationalist glæder jeg mig over nogle smukke succeser for den fælles politik uden for Europa.
In these circumstances we must welcome the firm stance taken by the Italian government and its Foreign Minister, Mr Giulio Andreotti, who refused to accept a largely negative compromise and expressed a number of reservations, particularly with regard to the measures to make the decisionmaking process more democratic.
Jeg mener som mange andre af Parlamentets med lemmer, at de beføjelser, man har indrømmet Euro pa-Parlamentet, ikke er tilstrækkelige.
We hope that a solution will still be found to this problem at the Foreign Ministers' meeting next week, and many have said here this afternoon how this should be done: the three-month deadline.
Det er de første skridt på vejen til en parlamentarisk-demokra-tisk legitimering af den europæiske fællesskabslovgivning.
The first step must be — to use Mr Delors's words once again — to fill the legal vacuum and to change the Council's financial regulation.
Her vil jeg især takke statsminister Santer og Kommissionens formand, hr. Delors, for de modige, fremtidsorienterede ord, de tidligere i dag har rettet til os.
But you cannot in all conscience expect this Parliament to deliver a favourable opinion on a legal vacuum and the Council's financial regulation. That is really going too far.
Den orientering, vi venter af Rådets møde, koncentrerer sig om medbestemmelsesproceduren i henhold til artikel 149 og om en revisionsklausul, der ikke blot som ved EPS, men i det hele skal indeholde en forpligtelse til senest i 1992 at indlede et arbejde på en traktatændring, der skal omfatte alle traktat kompetencer i Det europæiske Fællesskab.
That aspect of the Luxembourg conclusions is unacceptable to us, and I therefore trust — and I am in fact convinced, Madam President — that this Parliament, aware of its duties and reponsibilities, will adopt the resolution tabled by the Committee on Institutional Affairs, hoping, expecting and confident that in the coming days, weeks and, if necessary, months a solution will be found to the problems still outstanding.
Den, der i Vesteuropa vover at tale om demokrati — et ord vi kappes om at bruge og misbruge — må omsider gøre sig klart, hvilken nøjagtig plads der skal indrømmes den lovgivende myndighed.
Therefore our Group, too, will vote for the resolution together with the amendments proposed with a view to conciliation, since we are confident that changes might be forthcoming at the next meeting of the European Council.
Man bør også gøre sig klart, at enhver — selv indirekte — overdragelse af beføjelser på bekostning af nationale eller supranationale parlamenter (som vort) til fordel for en nationalistisk, egoistisk og/eller teknokratisk, bureaukratisk udøvende myndighed, er en overførsel, der i højeste grad skader demokratiet og det parlamentariske system. Derfor forekommer en fremskyndelse af Europa-Parlamentets og Kom missionens beslutningsproces mig at være så meget desto mere presserende, som enhver pseudoeuropæisk tilsløring som det europæiske pas eller det hvid-grønne skilt ved grænserne er sympatisk, men ikke effektiv.
Mrs Cassanmagnago-Cerretti (PPE). — (IT) Mr President of the Council, at a time when, under pressure from the European Parliament and public opinion, the governments of the Member States had an historic opportunity to revitalize the process of build ing Europe on a democratic basis, nearly all of them preferred to endorse a compromise which, despite assertions to the contrary, creates nothing new and, in some fields, even represents a retrograde step in relation to the Community treaties and the 1983 Stuttgart Declaration.
En sidste bemærkning til den nye EPS-procedure.
I cannot say what the individual reasons were.
Som socialist og fagforeningskvinde vil jeg endelig i betragtning af mulighederne, men også kravene ved et blandet økonomisk system, der har pligt til at opretholde de opnåede sociale resultater, ganske sær ligt udtrykke min store tilfredshed med, at Luxembourg på fagforeningsplan har haft held til at genoprette nogle forbindelser. Luxembourg har i disse af industrielle, økonomiske og sociale forandringer præ gede tider været i stand til at genoprette forbindelser ne og den konstruktive dialog med arbejdsmarkedets parter i almindelighed.
The opportunity of reforming the Community institutions has, in fact, been missed. The summit has contri buted nothing new in terms of democratization, for the text dealing with the powers of Parliament is lack ing in substance.
Således begynder den omsider indledte andring af dç alarmerende tendenser på beskæftigelsesmarkedet, inden for de offentlige og private investeringer og lettelsen med hensyn til det interne marked og på det monetære område at antage
The European Council's conclusions actually mark a retrograde step with regard to the powers of the Community, for example in the field of monetary integration, where all progress is made dependent on the treaty review pro cedure or limited to political agreements lacking legal sanctions, as in the case of the internal market.
Vi må dog være klar over, at der i Luxembourg er faldet noget ned fra træet.
What will be the relationship between Community research, Eureka, national and regional research?
Det er frugterne af vores arbejde, og vi har ikke gødet nok.
Where will the boundaries be in future?
Derfor skal vi ikke undre os, hvis de ikke smager os, hvis de ikke smager mig, hvis de ikke smager borgeren.
Anyone who has been involved in research policy in recent years will be able to tell me that it is already very difficult to separate national and European research from each other.
Om ham tales der desuden alt
We would have liked the Commission to have
Og vil vi miste den mulighed, som den italienske ministerpræsident og udenrigsminister gav os, for at fælde den endelige dom over disse utilstrækkelige afgørelser?
Linkohr told us that, and we have become a little suspicious as well, essentially because we have obtained the information from the Press and not from the Commission.
Hvordan kunne det ellers ske, at vi ikke høres i offentligheden?
We have had a debate on the application of technology.
Hvor dan kunne det ellers ske, at grundtankerne: »Fællesskab betyder fred«, »Det indre marked sparer om kostninger og sikrer os arbejdspladser«; »Forbrugeren har fordel af ens skatter og af ens penge og af ens frimærker«, endnu ikke er blevet alment kendt?
When we pursue technological policy and ignore Parliament how are we — I ask this now — going to evaluate technology in the future?
El lers kunne vores træ vel ikke stå i skygge.
Are we really going to leave it to industry, or is Parliament involving itself?
Hvordan kan det ske, at en avis slår op som en sen sation, at småpakker til udlandet for fremtiden kan veje indil 2 kg?
That is why we have always tried hitherto to keep European research policy within the framework of the European Communities as far as possible.
At cykler ikke kan bringes over grænsen uden formularer?
We have intelligent people.
Det er endnu ikke lykke des os at udligne interesserne, og vi bør gøre meget mere for at imødekomme forbrugeren som fredsmenneske. Hr. Delors har i dag talt om et coup d'état.
The President of the EC Commission is sitting in front of us, he will do it.
Hvorfor ikke et coup d'état for freden?
Why not within the framework of the European Communities, why this way?
Hvordan kan Fællesskabet trives på en sådan smålig egoisme?
We do not want to speak out against cooperation with industry.
Der eksisterer således et demokratisk og politisk vacuum.
But I do ask myself why European industry needs Eureka, when the financing is in any case so weak?
Det bliver ikke udfyldt, i stedet har disse beføjelser været i Rådets magt.
It is not already possible for firms in Europe to cooperate across frontiers?
Europas almindelige befolkning er ikke tåber.
Why do they prefer to do so with American firms and not with firms in neighbouring countries?
De ønsker et Parlament, der er i stand til at slå ned på de problemer, som Fællesskabet lider under for øjeblik ket.
This is primarily a question which we must ask industry, as it is certainly not just a matter of additional finance.
Vi har ved afstem ning besluttet ikke at afbryde forhandlingen. Talerlisten er ikke lukket, og bagefter skal Kommissionen og Rådet have ordet. Vi må regne med, at klokken så vil være henad 19.30, tidspunktet for afstemningens begyndelse.
I have just escaped from a meeting on environmental protection, which was discussing a programme submit ted by the Commission and discussed a few days ago in the Research Ministers Council.
Det kan ikke med nøjagtighed siges, hvornår vi bliver færdige. Hertil kommer så stemmeforklaringerne.
Why does this have to be done through Eureka and not within the framework of Community research, why one here and the other there?
Vi har forsøgt at tale med personalet for at se, hvad der kan gøres.
I have still not received a pragmatic answer to this question.
I betragtning af at der i dag har været afholdt nioghalvtreds møder, og at der skal være budgetmøde i aften, kan det ikke lade sig gøre at afholde nattemøde.
That will be our problem in future, and the problem of participants in such programmes, because they will no longer know where to obtain information and funds.
Man kunne blive fortvivlet over de utilstrækkelige skridt, der nu forslås, navnlig i lyset af det arbejde der er lagt i Parlamentets traktatudkast, og Dooge- og Adonnino-komiteernes arbejde, der vakte nye håb for fremtiden.
Mr Lambrias (PPE). — (GR) Madam President, colleagues, and Presidents of Council and of the European Commission, I confess to envying those who sit in this House without feeling grave concern about European Union.
Under disse omstændigheder stiller jeg følgende for slag: vi afslutter forhandlingen, går over til afstem ningen og begynder spørgetiden, der slutter kl. 21.
To put it more clearly: which of the two should we accept: that in the swamp Europe has wallowed in for some years, the small flagstones tossed in by the Luxembourg declaration have given us some hopeful mobility, or that when the surface ripples created have been absorbed by the Community's bureaucracy, the swamp will revert to its torpid state for many years more?
Er De indforstået med dette forslag?
It gets more complicated.
(Forslaget godkendes)
Leaving aside the question of finance.
Så fortsætter vi forhandlingen.
We are always being told that the Com munity is too bureaucratic.
Jeg er ikke bekymret over de mængder af forklaringer på papiret, der kommer via omhyggeligt affattede og vidtløftige rapporter.
That there are too many bureaucrats and that it is a terribly unwidely apparatus.
Jeg er alvorligt bekymret over den mangel på handling, der sandsynligvis vil være resultatet af regeringskonferencen.
That is why it all has to be made far more eficient and put into the hands of industry.
Navnlig én med lemsstat synes at nægte at gå en tomme videre end den nuværende traktat. Denne position kan simpelt hen ikke forsvares.
Now there is to be a Eureka secretariat under the aegis of a Eureka Council of Ministers, i.e. a repetition of what we already have in the Community, but this time with 18 States!
Alle medlemsstater er formelt gået ind på at lægge grunden til en endnu tættere union blandt Europas befolkning.
I presume that at some point parliamentarians in those countries will ask how it is all to be controlled.
De medlemsstater, der nægter at bevæge sig fremad, er klart ude af trit med den nuværende traktat.
Some time we shall perhaps — as my colleague so rightly said — have a parliament as well, and then we shall want to know how it will behave towards the European Parliament.
Clinton (PPE). — (EN) Fru formand, man gik glip af en stor mulighed på Det europæiske Råd i Luxembourg.
No doubt, both of the diametrically opposite opinions supported by those who keep faith with the European ideal are based on honest thoughts.
De 14 mio arbejdsløse er den største illustration, vi har af Europas stagnation, og det største vid nesbyrd om beslutningsmaskineriets utilstrækkelig hed.
There is no con flict about the aim, the essence of the problem, but there is disagreement about the strategy, the method to be used in solving it.
Der er ingen målelige bestemmelser af noget, der er kommet igennem fra regeringskonferencen, og in gen juridiske tidsbegrænsninger. Som forbundskansler Kohl spurgte: Vil vi lade konvojens hastighed
From a tactical standpoint there is today more point in such a stance, strict but not negative, because this will compel Council, and the Foreign Ministers meeting within the scope of political cooperation, to show whether they too are really inspired by the same spirit of coopera-
Formigoni (PPE), formand for det politiske udvalg. — (IT) Fru formand, to minutter til at udtrykke den dybe skuffelse over Det europæiske Råds resultater.
As Eureka stands, it is primarily for cooperation between large firms — I have nothing against large firms of course, I even worked in one once — but what about the small and medium enter prises? These are the ones we should help.
Så meget dybere er denne skuffelse sammenlignet
We have had much better experiences in the Community and we should support them.
Jeg vil også gerne henvise til det, der er foregået i det danske folketing, hvor der i henhold til Reuters med delelse herskede stor forvirring, fordi man ikke var klar over, hvad teksterne betød.
Above all, to improve Parliament's terms of reference, which so long as they remain obscure, will cast an antidemocratic shadow upon Parliament's function.
Kære kolleger, jeg tror, det er nødvendigt at være oprigtig lige til det brutale.
Mrs Schmit (S). — (FR) Madam President, ladies and gentlemen, in the European Community we see a succession of presidents and speeches, which do not necessarily resemble one another.
Idet jeg takker den italienske regering for den modige og fremsynde holdning, den har indtaget, tror jeg, det ville være sømmeligt fra regeringernes side at betragte regeringskonferencen som ikke afsluttet eller, hvis det ikke skulle være muligt, at indse nødvendigheden af at indkalde en ny konference til en bestemt dato inden udgangen af 1987 for at tilkendegive, at man ikke agter at begrave de europæiske forhåbninger.
A lesson which a small State — geographically speaking — should teach and teach again to some large countries, who when it is or is again their turn to assume the presidency should, pro portionately, and with some irony, 'of course', 'selbstverständlich', 'évidemment' do three hundred times better!!
Noget, der imidlertid generer mig overordentlig meget i Luxembourgaftalen, er det, man udtrykkeligt har nægtet at medtage i den.
In any case this is not a question of the seat of the presidency, it is certainly not only the fault of the Luxembourg ministers.
Alle blev forkastet, selv om ingen af dem frembød revolutionerende aspekter.
In fact anyone who dares speak of democracy in Western Europe — and we all try to vie with each other in using and abusing the term — must finally recognize the exact and rightful place to be given to the legislative power.
Og når den så uklare tekst snart skal fortolkes, bliver det forberedelsesarbejdet. Der kommer til at tjene som retningslinjer for for tolkning, og så får De at se, hvad der bliver tilbage deraf.
Moreover, I regard it as extremely urgent to speed up the decisionmaking process of Parliament and the Commission, because any pseudo-European cover-up, such as the European passport or the green and white stamp at frontiers is nice but not effective.
Én ting er klar: afstanden bliver stadig større mellem det reale Europa og det legale Europa.
As a Luxembourger I would also like to congratulate my compatriots, the government team and the depart ments, for their efforts, both material and in terms of staff.