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Over for en sådan situation ville man vente, at de forskellige fællesskabsorganer ville sikre en vis lige vægt i de forskellige tilskud, som er fastsat i EØF's forordninger.
I was a member of the Council of Ministers when the disadvantaged areas scheme was first introduced and that is the level at which it was fixed then.
Jeg var medlem af Rådet, da planerne for de ugunstigt stillede områder kom frem første gang; dette her er det niveau, der blev fastsat dengang, og det varede ikke så få år at få det op på 50 %.
It took quite some years to get it to its present level of 50%.
Derfor måtte medlemsstaterne dengang — Irland var et af dem, og vi har meget store ugunstigt stillede områder i Irland — acceptere de 25 % til at begynde med og i nogle år efter, at man var begyndt.
So the Member States then — and Ireland was one of them and we have a very large disadvantaged area in Ireland — had to accept 25% for a start and for some years after the start.
Dette betyder ikke, at jeg ikke synes, i lighed med de græske medlemmer, at de også fuldt ud bør nyde gavn af de 50 %.
That is not to say that I do not feel, as the Greek Members do here, that they should get the full benefit of the 50%.
Jeg ved ikke, hvorfor Kommissionen i dette tilfælde har anbefalet mindre.
I do not know why the Commission has in this case recommended less.
Det er vanskeligt at forstå, eftersom Grækenland nu er fuldt medlem.
It is difficult to understand since the Greeks are now full members.
Jeg mener, de bør have det fulde udbytte af, hvad der end måtte stilles til rådighed på dette område, og hjælpen går jo til de fattigere egne af Grækenland.
I think that they should get the full benefit of whatever is being offered in this particular area and
Det har vor fulde støtte i gruppen, og jeg skal ikke forhale forhandlingerne yderligere.
In response to this situation one would have expected that the organs, the different organs of the Community, would have guaranteed some balance in whatever aids are provided under the EEC's regula­tions.
Medlemmerne uden for grupperne
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Formanden. har ordet.
It has our full support in this group, and I do not want to hold up the meeting any longer.
Jeg vil også takke hr. Clinton, fordi han her bibragte os en smule landbrugslogik.
President. — I call the non-attached Members.
Imidlertid tages der i forslaget slet ikke hensyn til dette ligevægtsprincip.
(A request by ten Members to close the debate was put to the vote and rejected)
(Bifald)
Mr Zighdis.— (GR) Just a couple of words.
At ordningen vedrørende støtte til de 'ugunstigt stil lede områder skulle udvides til også at gælde Grækenland, udgør et af basiselementerne for indtrædelsen, og naturligvis ville enhver forsinkelse af, denne ordnings ikrafttræden, også i Grækenlands tilfælde være skadelig, ikke blot for Grækenland, men også for ideen om det samlede Europas forening.
I am in complete agreement with Mr Papaefstratiou's report and warmly support the motion for a resolution. One of the most fundamental factors of accession is the extension to Greece of the principle of aiding the lessfavoured areas and any delay in implementing this principle in Greece's case will certainly be injurious, not only for Greece, but also for the idea of European unification and, integration.
Dette kræver imidlertid to bemærkninger:
However, Mr President, I have to make two remarks on this issue:
Derfor er Kommissionens forslag en virkelig provokation mod det græske folk, der som forudset lider under de voldsomme følger af landets indtræden i EF.
Mr Vardakas. — (GR) Mr President, colleagues, 40% of the utilized agricultural area of Greece is in mountain regions.
Naturligvis har regeringen et særligt ansvar herfor, i hvert fald hvis den ikke oplyser det græske folk herom.
Greek farms are very small, about three-quarters of them are between 1 and 5 hectares (compared to 68% in Italy) and 93% of them are less than 10 hectares (compared to 85% in Italy).
Den første er, at jeg er overrasket over den improvisering, der er i definitionen af disse områder. Jeg har kastet et blik i betænkningen, i det dokument vi har foran os, og jeg ser særdeles mange udeladelser, som jeg vil tilskrive som værende typografiske fejl, for det er ikke muligt, at de er her af en eller anden uret-
This, Mr President, is what the Commission wrote in its first periodic report on the social and economic situation of the regions of the Community (Doc. COM (80) 816 final, p. 106).
Zighdis staltninger for Irland og Italien, især for landbrugsbedrifterne i Syditalien.
This small extract of the Commission's report is typical of the difficulties facing Greek agriculture. Indeed, the comparison with Italian agriculture in this matter provides a good opportunity for demonstrating how reasonable the Greek request is for the Greek regions which fall under the provisions of Directive 75/268/ EEC to be included under the provisions of more recent directives culminating in Directive 80/666/ EEC fixing more favourable measures for Ireland and Italy and for agricultural holdings in the Mezzogiorno in particular.
Det er i øvrigt et bemærkelsesværdigt faktum, at de ugunstigt stillede områder i Grækenland, som falder ind under ordningerne i direktiv 75/268/EØF, udgør 46 % af den anvendelige jord i Grækenland.
Furthermore, it is worth noting the fact that lessfavoured areas of Greece which are included under the provisions of Directive 75/268/EEC account for , 46% of utilized Greek land.
Der er ingen tvivl om, at vor landbrugs befolkning vil få stor gavn af medlemskabet af EF.
The first is that I am surprised at the improvised manner in which these areas are fixed.
færdig grund. Det andet er naturligvis det,, som hr. Clinton understregede, ligesom også græske kollegaer, at det er uacceptabelt, at indførelsen af ordningen om støtte til ugunstigt stillede områder forfordeler Grækenland.
Glancing at the report, at the document which we have in front of us, I see a large number of omissions which I can only attribute to typographical errors because there is no other justifiable reason for their existence.
Herved lider den europæiske tanke ubodelig skade i Grækenland, for vi giver det indtryk, at det græske folk er udsat for en anden klasses behandling.
Second, of course, is what Mr Clinton and Greek colleagues pointed out, that it is unacceptable for the principle of aids for lessfavoured areas to be applied unequally in Greece, you do not know what damage we are doing to the idea of European unity in Greece, because we are giving the impression that the Greek people are receiving second class treatment.
Eftersom dette naturligvis ikke er Kommissionens eller Ministerrådets tanke eller hensigt, så tror jeg, at den beslutning bør forelægges, som landbrugsudvalget allerede har taget, nemlig at der også i Grækenlands ugunstigt stillede områder træffes samme foranstaltninger, som er truffet for Irland og Syditalien.
Since the Commission's and the Council of Ministers' thoughts and position on this matter are not certain, I think that the decision which the Committee on Agriculture has already taken should be submitted so that the same measures which were taken for Ireland and the Mezzogiorno are implemented in the lessfavoured areas of Greece.
Jeg har intet yderligere at tilføje, hr. formand, jeg ønsker blot at udtrykke min glæde over dette øjeblik, og ligeså også på forhånd at udtrykke den endnu større glæde, som indførelsen af en ligevægtig ordning vil fremkalde, når Rådet også beslutter dette for de ugunstigt stillede områder i mit land.
I have nothing else to add, Mr President, apart from expressing my pleasure at this moment, and anticipating the even greater pleasure which I shall feel when the principle of equality is implemented by the Council's decision in the case of the lessfavoured areas in Greece.
von der Vring. — (DE) Hr. formand, dette punkt er opført på dagsordenen som uopsætteligt. Jeg tror, vi alle er enige i denne sag.
Mr von der Vring. — (DE) Mr President, this item has been put on the agenda as a matter of urgency.
Men der er andre uopsættelige sager tilbage, og vi har indtryk af, at alle græske kolleger vil tage ordet i dag, så at andre punkter, f.eks. budgettet for 1982, af den grund ikke kan blive behandlet.
However, there are other urgent items also, and one has the impression that all our Greek colleagues intend to speak today. If they do, then other items, such as the 1982 budget, cannot be dealt with.
Jeg vil gerne bede talerne fatte sig i korthed.
Sitting of Friday, 10 July 1981
Bournias, — (GR) Hr. Formand, jeg havde ventet enighed om dette emne blandt de græske medlemmer. For øvrigt fremførte en kollega dette synspunkt for at bede om en afslutning, fordi han ganske rimeligt forventede, at der ville være enighed blandt de græske medlemmer uanset parti.
Mr Bournias. — (GR) Mr President, I expected that all the Greek representatives would be unanimous on this issue, especially as one colleague took this view by asking for a recess as he supposed, reasonably enough, that all the Greek representatives would be unanimous on this matter regardless of party affiliations.
Desværre forstod kun hr. Zigdis, hvad det drejer sig om, og støttede det, og derfor vil jeg komplimentere ham af hele mit hjerte.
Unfortunately, only Mr Zighdis has understood the issue and supported it and for this I give him my wholehaearted thanks.
Og han er leder af et oppositionsparti.
And he is the leader of an opposition party.
De andre oppositionspartier begyndte i denne forbindelse at klage, de havde ikke mod til at komplimentere repræsentanten fra Det nye Demokrati, som har opnået, at det græske landbrugsområde, det ugunstigt stillede, det der er beliggende i bjergene, har fået ligestilling med Vestirland og Syditalien, og det beklager jeg.
The other opposition parties began complaining about this matter and I am sorry that they did not have the decency to congratulate New Democracy's representative who has managed to achieve a balance with western Ireland and the Mezzogiorno for Greek mountain farming and the lessfavoured areas of Greece.
Jeg taler om det kommunistiske parti, og desværre også om PASOK.
I am speaking of the Communist Party and, unfortunately, of PASOK.
Hr. formand, jeg anser allerede spørgsmålet for løst, det er retfærdigheds- og lighedsgrunde, som kræver ligestillingen, ikke blot den teoretiske, men også hvad angår satsen på 50 % i udligningsgodtgørelse.
Mr President, I consider the issue already resolved. There are reasons of justice and equality for achieving a balance which is not simply a theoretical one but which also takes account of the 50% reimbursement rate of the compensatory allowance.
Jeg er altså af den mening og udtrykker ønsket om, at dette vil ske.
This then is my opinion and I hope that'this happens.
Til sidst vil jeg komplimentere hr. Battersby for hans smukke græsk og de smukke følelser, han nærer for vort land, og også hr. Clinton, som så kraftigt har støttet den retfærdige sag.
In closing · I want to congratulate Mr Battersby for his excellent Greek and his fine feel ings towards Greece, and also my colleague, Mr Clinton, for his strong defence of justice in this matter.
Vardakas. — (GR) Hr. Formand, kære kolleger, 40 % af de opdyrkede jorder i Grækenland er beliggende i bjergområder.
Mr Pesmazoglou. — (GR) I just want to say the following, the is^ue is a legal one, not just a political one and, naturally, it is of great importance.
De græske landbrug er meget små, ca3A af bedrifterne er på mellem 1 og 5 ha. — imod 68 % i Italien — og 93 % er på under 10 ha. — imod 85 % i Italien.
In my opinion any discrimination within the Community is a contravention of the Community's Treaties.
43 % af de opdyrkede land brugsarealer hører til bedrifter på 1 til 5 ha. — 22 % i Italien —, og kun 10 % af disse arealer, imod 43 % i Italien, til bedrifter på over 20 ha.
He said that there was a first phase in Ireland during which the rate was lower and, when it was raised later, conditions were more favourable. Yes.
Dette lille uddrag af Kommissionens beretning er karakteristisk for de vanskeligheder, som det græske landbrug står overfor.
If people crowd into Athens, then of course great resources have to be spent to provide the infrastructures, the housing and all that is necessary for human life in these areas, and I would argue that it is far cheaper in fact to use those resources in the rural regions and keep the people in those regions than have them move into the cities and the towns.
Og derfor er sammenligningen med det italienske landbrug et heldigt sammenfald, fordi den viser, hvor rimeligt det græske krav er, om at også de græske områder, som falder ind under ordningerne i direktiv 75/268/EØF, medtages i ordningerne i nyere direktiver, som er resultat af 80/666/EØF, som fastsætter mere favorable foran
So I think there is a certain undeniable logic in providing the necessary resources for countries like Greece in order that the population will have an acceptable standard of living in these regions.
Markozanis. — (GR) Hr. formand, som vi alle ved, bevæger Grækenland sig med raske skridt henimod en modernisering af sit landbrug.
Mr Markozanis. — (GR) Mr President, as we all know, Greece is making steady progress in the direction of modernizing its agriculture.
En ting der sigter på en forøgelse af landbrugsproduktiviteten med en parallel frigørelse af arbejdsstyrken beskæftiget inden landbruget, som vil kunne beskæftiges i andre produktionsgrene.
The aim of this is to increase agricultural productivity and at the same time unleash the inherent agricultural forces which can be used in other sectors of production.
Indtil nu udgjorde landbruget hovedbeskæftigelsen i Grækenland, med regionerne Athen og Thessaloniki som eneste undtagelser.
So far agriculture has accounted for Greece's major activity, the sole exception being the regions of Athens and Thessalonika.
En anden ulempe, som det græske landbrug har, er de mange bjergområder og størstdelen af jordbundens dårlige kvalitet.
Another disadvantage affecting Greek agriculture is the vast extent of mountain areas and the relatively poor quality of the greater part of its land.
Således er landbrugsproduktionen
Tourism in the mountains of Greece can be developed as these beautiful mountains are perfectly suited to this end.
Jeg støtter fuldt ud det7 grækerne ønsker, og jeg er parat til også i fremtiden på den liberale gruppes vegne at støtte dem.
I fully support what the Greeks want and I am prepared to support them in the future on behalf of the Liberal Group.
Hele denne situation har haft til resultat, at land brugsbefolkningen gradvis er flyttet fra disse bjerglandbrugsområder til byerne, med alle de ubehagelige økonomiske følger en sådan befolkningsforskydelse har.
Mr Pannella. — (FR) Mr President, I think that this motion for a resolution is very timely and that it was absolutely vital for the legal reasons that have been so clearly and so cogently set forth.
Den økonomiske støtte til bjerglandbrugsområderne fra Fællesskabets side, således som det forudsættes i direktiv 75/268/EØF, og selv om den ikke er den samme, som de andre ugunstigt stillede områder i Fællesskabet får, vil i høj grad støtte den bestræbelse, som Grækenland i dag gør for sin yder lige økonomiske udvikling.
proper degree of interdependence. I support this reso lution therefore, but I fear greatly that it will be only a drop of water in the ocean of failures and mistakes that our Community has chalked up because of the fact that it is entirely subordinated to the agricultural and food processing interests and to the industrial and military considerations that rule our world.
Den vil omlægge det græske landbrugs dyrkningsmetoder og vil hjælpe til skabelsen af en moderniseret håndværksvirksomhed i landbrugsområderne og til udviklingen af bjergturismen, som vil højne landbrugsindtægten.
Having said all this, Mr President, permit me just this once to indulge myself in the presumption of believing that I speak for the entire House when I tell you, Mr President, that on the occasion of your birthday our thoughts are all with you.
Udviklingen af bjergturismen i Grækenland er mulig, eftersom Grækenlands bjerge med deres skønhed er udmærket egnede til dette formål.
We extend to you our very best wishes and our hopes that you will continue to carry out your duties for a very long time, even if I naturally hope ever more fervently, Mr President, that your political party and its policy will go to the wall.
Jeg har tidligere i tilstrækkeligt omfang gjort rede for problemerne i Syditalien, idet jeg har understreget, at den største katastrofe for denne egn var den ledende klasse; jeg vil nu sige et par meget klare og oprigtige ord om dette emne.
Mr Pisani, Member of the Commission. — (FR) Mr President, you can very easily imagine that I should dearly love to plunge myself into this wideranging debate which has been launched on the occasion of the submission of this proposal by the Commission.
Jeg kan naturligvis erklære mig enig i forslaget til beslutning: det er nødvendigt, at de fattigere egne i Europa — i det Sydeuropa, der på en måde strækker sig op til nord — hjælpes med henblik på at det kan imødegå vilkår, som bliver mere og mere vanskelige.
It goes without saying that I am in favour of the proposal. The lessfavoured regions of our Europe — the South of Europe which spreads, in a manner of speaking, its tentacles right up to the North — must be given aid in order to enable them to cope with conditions that are growing ever more difficult.
Men vi har desværre et eksempel, som går tyve år tilbage: jo mere vi støtter landbruget, jo mindre hjælper vi landbrugerne!
Nevertheless, Mr President, for the past 20 years we have here a paradox, namely, the more we assist agriculture, the less we assist the farmers.
Jo mere vi hjælper land bruget, jo mere affolket bliver det.
We give more and more aid to agriculture and our farms become more and more depopulated.
Jo mere vi støtter landbruget, jo mere hjælper vi dette landbrug med at gøre landbrugerne til en farligt afhængig arbejdskraft, som altid er i krise! Dette er problemet i Syditalien, og jeg tror vore græske venner står over for samme problem.
The more we aid agriculture, the more we help the agricultural and food processing complexes to make farmers into a dangerously down trodden labour force that is continually in difficulties.
Vi må anlægge en helhedsvision og indføre en europæisk politik baseret på de strukturelle krav i disse regioner.
We must there fore go beyond pious hopes and aim at a broad vision of a European policy based on the structural needs of these regions.
Pesmazoglou. — (GR) Jeg ønsker blot at sige følgende: Spørgsmålet er juridisk, ikke blot politisk, og følgelig er det meget vigtigt.
I shall, however, absolutely force myself to refrain from doing so, because the circumstances are not in favour of an auspicious development of this debate.
Hans sagde, at der var en første fase, under hvilken satsen var lavere for Irland, og da den blev forhøjet, var der mere favorable betingelser. Ja.
Secondly and lastly, I would merely say that in the text that has been put before you we are outlining a procedure for defining regions, thanks to which the policy that the Community intends to pursue in regard to hill-farming will soon be a much more active one.
Men i dette øjeblik eksisterer der imidlertid en anden ordning for de ugunstigt stillede områder i Syditalien og i Irland, og det er juridisk uacceptabelt, at de samme kriterier og de samme forordninger ikke gælder for Grækenland.
This being the case, I hope that you will all be good enough to realize that what we have here is only the beginning of a procedure and that as time goes on the Community will have to take a decision, in the light of all the available statistics, on the degree to which the Community will have to intervene.
Derfor vil jeg gerne udtrykke den tanke overfor Kommissionen, at der i det frem satte forslag — og jeg beder hr.· Papaefstratiou være opmærksom på dette — burde sigtes på en justering af denne ulovlighed og en tilbagevirkende indførelse af disse kriterier for de græske ugunstigt stillede områder.
Since therefore this is only the beginning of a procedure and not the Commission's final position, I would ask you to adopt the text as you have it before you.
Maher. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne støtte det, Kommissionen gør, og sammen med mine græske kolleger bede om mere.
I call Mr Papaefstratiou for an explanation of vote.
Når vi f.eks. ser, at Grækenlands tiltræden og Grækenlands rettigheder i vort Fællesskab somme tider volder os problemer med Tunesien og den tredje verden, så mener vi, at denne politik er dybt forfejlet og farlig.
When, for example, we see the problems sometimes caused in respect of Tunisia and the Third World by the accession of Greece and Greek rights within our Community, we might be inclined to think that this policy was a mistaken and dangerous one.
Når vi konstaterer, at menneskene i Sydeuropa og andere steder er foruroliget over Spaniens og Portugals tiltræden, så er det fordi vi mangler en mere og mere påkrævet helhedsvision.
When we realize that in the South of Italy and elsewhere people are very worried by the accession of Spain and Portugal, we should reflect that the reason for this is that we lack the overall vision that is becoming more and more necessary.
En sådan vision består i at betragte det som en rigdom, at det europæiske middelhavsområde, det fattige Europa, bliver forenet.
In other words, we fail to regard as one of our greatest assets the unity of Mediterranean Europe, of the poor regions of Europe.
En sådan vision ville være en chance for Europa og muliggøre den nødvendige omdannelse. Det ville betyde et tredobbelt »kvalitativt
If we do not succeed in this, Mr President, we shall merely be reduced to an aid policy, the same policy that we have refused to accept for the Third World.
Dette for et enhver misforståelse.
This is just to avoid any misunderstanding.
(De forskellige tekster vedtoges) godkendtes, og forslaget til skridt«.
The Committee on Agriculture did have certain reservations about the criteria apparently being used to administer this aid.
Ellers vil vi være dømt til en bistandspolitik, den samme politik, som vi har taget afstand fra over for deri tredje verden.
The percentages of the aid going to the different regions is given by the Commission, but very little information is given about the criteria that the Commission is applying when it comes to application and how the money is given out.
For vi har altid sagt, at vi i stedet for blot bistand måtte yde udviklingshjælp og fremme den gensidige afhængighed.
We should like to know if the Commission has some overall plan that it is working towards or whether it does this on an ad hoc basis.
(Forshget til forordning beslutning vedtoges)
Perhaps the Commissioner here today would be able to tell us that.
Jeg kan altså gå ind for dette forslag til beslutning, men jeg er bange for, at det blot er en dråbe i et hav af fiaskoer og fejltagelser, som vort Fællesskab har ophobet, fordi det er underkastet interesserne hos de agro-alimentære og industri-militære virksomheder, som dominerer verden.
The definition of the areas of special priority does, I think, need mentioning again in particular because there still seems to be some confusion about the way the term 'North Britain' is used.
— betænkning udarbejdet af Quin for landbrugsud valget over forslag fra Kommissionen for De europæiske Fællesskaber til Rådet (dok.
It has been pointed out to me that the French text of my report does have a mis-translation here.
1-97/81) til forordning om ændring af forordning (EØF) nr. 1852/78 om gennemførelse af en midlertidig fælles foranstaltning til omlægning af kystfiskeriet (dok. 1-267/81)
The Northern parts of Britain which are referred to are of course Scotland and the East Coast English ports from Berwick as far south as Bridlington.
— forslag fra Kommissionen til Rådet til:
and the proposals from the Commission to the Council for: