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Enhver statslig foranstaltning, som har til formål at indskrænke arbejdstageres fagforeningsrettigheder mod deres vilje, må automatisk anses for en forsyndelse mod et grundlæggende princip for det frie demokrati.
ing to statements by the Junta's Minister of the Inter ior, 203 members of Parliament, 80 lawyers and 46 journalists are currently serving prison sentences.
Jeg sagde mod arbejdstagernes vilje, thi naturligvis er det ikke et brud på frihedsrettigheder at gøre folk til tjenestemænd efter eget ønske, hvor dette måtte forekomme — men det er jo ikke det, sagen drejer sig om her.
This aid is being exploited by the Turkish Junta against a Member State of NATO, namely Greece, and to continue the military occupation of a country with close links to the EEC, namely Cyprus.
Formanden. — Kære kollega, det kan der ikke blive tale om nu, da spørgetiden til Rådet er opbrugt.
A final assessment on whether Turkey has returned to democracy cannot, of course, be made until parliamentary elections have been held.
Hvis De ønsker det, kan vi tage det med i spørgetiden næste måned.
That is also why the Federal Government refrained from making a final assessment in the report of 2 December 1982, to which I have already referred.
Gredal (S). — Det forekommer mig, at rådsformanden et par gange på et spørgsmål her fra salen har svaret som medlem af den tyske regering og ikke som formand for Rådet. Jeg mener, at det bør være som formand før Rådet, at han svarer. For lidt siden svarede rådsformanden, at Rådet har truffet nye beslutninger med hensyn til demokratiseringen i Tyrkiet.
Instead, it made an interim assessment and concluded by saying that a final assessment depended on a number of other factors.
Jeg vil gerne vide, hvornår disse beslutninger er truffet, og hvilke beslutninger der er tale om?
It will base this appriasal on the Bundestag's resolution of 5 June 1981.
(Bifald fra den europæiske demokratiske gruppe)
As regards the remainder of the question, this subject has not been discussed by the Council.
Genscher. — (DE) Alle svar, som jeg her giver, giver jeg i egenskab af rådsformand.
Mr Rallias (PPE). — (GR) What I would like to ask is this: Has there every been a dictatorship anywhere in the world which, having organized a referendum, failed to get virtually 100% of the votes?
Det kan ikke hindre mig i at gøre brug af viden, som jeg har erhvervet i en anden egenskab.
Can we therefore really consider the referendum organized by the dictatorship in Turkey valid?
Vi fortsætter med spørgsmålene til udenrigsministrene. strene.
Mr Brøndlund Nielsen (L). — (DA) Does the Coun cil know, or has the President himself in his negotiations with the Turkish Foreign Minister learned, whether progress has been made in controlling the extensive terrorist activity, including the very large stocks of weapons which have been found in Turkey?
På baggrund af at Fællesskabet ofte har givet udtryk for, at det er modstander af apartheid, hvorfor har så kun to medlemsstater konsekvent støttet denne holdning under afstemningerne om Sydafrika i FNs generalforsamling i 1979 og 1980?
Regularizing these circumstances and bringing them under control must be an important precondition for democratic elections to proceed in a normal manner and for Turkey to return to normal parliamentary conditions.
Schieler (S). — (DE) Hr. rådsformand, De har erklæret, at spørgsmålet om Tyrkiets tilbagevenden til demokrati først endegyldigt kan afklares efter valget i oktober. Ligesom fru Hoff spørger jeg Dem, om De ikke ser det som en modsigelse, når De på den ene side i øjeblikket er imod en frigivelse af EF-midler, men på den anden side har foreslået det tyske parlament af frigive tyske midler.
Secondly, has Council appreciated and fully considered how great is the importance of the West's ideological weapon, i.e. democracy and human rights, together with the fact that tolerance and indulgence towards Turkey disarms the Western World, depriving it of the right to judge other regimes, for example the dictatorship in Poland, and thereby exacerbating the damage done?
Genscher, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (DE) De Ti er enige i deres entydige fordømmelse af apart heid-systemet og i deres ønske om at fremskynde processen for en fredelig ændring i Sydafrika.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) As you know, one of the reasons the Turkish leaders have always given for seizing power on 12 September 1980 is that terrorist aspira tions must be combated.
Inden for rammerne af det politiske samarbejde mødes de regelmæssigt for at afpasse deres holdning med hensyn til De forenede Nationers resolution om apartheid og for desangående at afgive såvel fælleserklæringer som fælles forklaringer for deres holdning under afstemningen.
During the Turkish Foreign Minister's recent visit the problem the honourable Member has broached, recent progress in this area, was not discussed.
Genscher. — (DE) Det tyske parlament har i overens stemmelse med en beslutning af 5. juni 1981 betragtet forudsætningerne for frigivelsen af midlerne for givet.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) I believe a fundamental distinction must be made in a comparison of develop ments in Turkey with developments in the People's Republic of Poland.
I den udstrækning forbundsregeringen altså skal træffe afgørelser, er den forpligtet til at holde sig til beslutninger og afgørelser fra den tyske forbundsdag.
Turkey's allies and partners are making every effort to restore freedom in Turkey, while Poland's allies and partners are trying to restrict freedom in that country.
Det behøver ikke nødvendigvis at betyde, at der eksisterer forskellige opfattelser mellem Europa-Parlamentet og den tyske forbundsdag. Men det kan meget vel betyde, at der er gradsforskelle med hensyn til hvilke forudsætninger, der er knyttet til en genoptagelse .eller en trinvis genoptagelse af støtteforanstaltninger. staltninger.
Mr Fich (S). — (DA) I should like first of all to recall the resolution in the von Hassel report, which Parliament has adopted and which states that the fourth financial protocol will not be adopted by the Council 'until the procedures for a return to democratic conditions have been finally completed'.
Ewing (DEP). — (EN) Vil formanden for udenrigsministrene venligst give en kommentar til De Nis afstemningsprotokol ved FNs generalforsamling om apartheid i 1979 og 1980, som var vanærende og fuldstændig inacceptabelt for Parlamentet?
I would stress that this is Parliament's position and state the following also: The President of the Council has said that he cannot assess the situation in Turkey before the elections have taken place in October 1983.
Lykkedes det udenrigsministrene at opnå større enighed i løbet af de næste to år, 1981 og 1982, og hvis ikke, vil for mandskabet så tage skridt til at sikre et virkeligt sammenhold under afstemninger blandt De Ti?
This must mean that he can guarantee to us that no initiatives will be taken to release the fourth financial protocol, since it is not possible to assess the situation before October 1983. Is this understanding correct?
Jeg vil gerne minde om, at jeg i min egenskab af råds formand, for at imødekomme fru Hoffs forbehold, har givet meddelelse om, at det dokument fra den tyske forbundsdag, nr. 9/22/13, som jeg har stiftet bekendtskab med, oplyser, at forbundsregeringen i november 1983 vil foretage en endelig vurdering og på ny aflægge rapport for den tyske forbundsdag.
Mr Fellermaier (S). — (DE) I should like to ask the President of the Council whether he agrees with the strong criticism voiced by the only trade union allowed in Turkey of the bill seeking the introduction by emergency decree of compulsory labour for all workers in Turkey between the ages of 18 and 60 on the grounds that it is incompatible with the principles of democracy.
Ewing spørgsiriål, riål, jeg jeg fik fik et et »ja«
Fellermaier by the opinions of the Council and the European Par liament.
Måske vi lige rpntiirpt t n L · kunne få det gentaget, tak.
Does he consider this justified as a minimum standard of free trade union activity in a country which is associated with our Com munity?
stige en genforening af familier og at tilskrive den specielle situation for flygtningene fra Laos større betydning?
This does not necessarily mean that the European Par liament and the German Bundestag apply different standards.
Genscher. — (DE) Det første spørgsmål gik på, hvor vidt jeg kunne sige, hvorfor der ikke havde været tale om en enig holdning under afstemningerne. Dertil sagde jeg »nej«.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) Irrespective of what a trade union that is permitted in Turkey has to say on the subject, as a democrat I always diasapprove of legisla tion on compulsory labour anywhere, whatever other people may have to say.
Genscher. — (DE) Spørgsmål af denne art har også tidligere været genstand for forhandlinger. Også selv om der ikke findes nogen fælles flygtningepolitik, har der tróds alt fundet drøftelser sted om, på hvilken måde medlemsstaterne kan hjælpe.
In view of Mrs Hoffs reservations, I would remind the House that I said in my capacity as President of the Council that Paper 9/22/13 of the German Bundestag states that the Federal Government will be making a final assessment in November and then reporting to the German Bundestag again.
Det andet — og afsluttende — spørgsmål lød , om jeg ville bestræbe mig for, at det i fremtiden blev anderledes. Dertil svarede jeg »ja«.
I said 'against the will of the workers', because giving someone the status of civil servant when he wants it and where this is possible is not a violation of rights and freedoms — but that is not what is happen ing in this case.
Formanden. — Da de følgende spørgsmål vedrører samme emne, vil vi under ét behandle spørgsmål nr. 35 af Plaskovitis (H-628/82):
Mr Hume (S). — On a point of order Mr President. In the absence of Mr Arfe, and as a co-signatory of his oral question, with debate, which was converted into Question No 1, may I ask, in view of the fact that there is going to be a debate on this matter in the House on Thursday, that Question No 1 be taken now?
Formanden: — Spørgsmål nr. 34 af Israel (H-584/ 82):
President. — Mr Hume, we cannot do that now as Question Time is over.
Hvorledes forholder udenrigsministrene sig til ude lukkelsen af tidligere demokratiske politikere fra fremtidig politisk aktivitet efter det udkast til for fatning, der blev vedtaget den 7. november 1982?
Mrs Gredal (S). — (DA) It seems to me that once or twice, when replying to a question here, the President of the Council has answered as a member of the Ger man government and not as the President of the Council.
spørgsmål nr. 36 af Gredal (H-629/82):
I think that he should answer as President of the Council.
Europa-Parlamentet understregede i sin beslutning om Laos, der blev vedtaget den 14. oktober 1982, samt på det tredje møde med ASEAN's interparlamentariske delegation den 17. og 18. november 1982 i Strasbourg, nødvendigheden af ufortøvet at finde en løsning på den kritiske situation, de syd asiatiske flygtninge i Thailands flygtningslejre befinder sig i.
Mr Hutton (ED). — Mr President, may I point out to you that you have managed in an hour and ten minutes to call five questions, two of which were never put down as questions to the Council in the first place, and may I ask you, Mr President, to be a very great deal more rigorous in the application of your discretion in the calling of supplementaries in the questions to the Foreign Ministers?
spørgsmål nr. 37 af Hänsch (H-631/82):
(Applause from the European Democratic Group)
Flygtningene modtages af de enkelte medlemsstater efter fastlagte kvoter.
Question No 33, by Mrs Ewing (H-295/82):
Moreland (ED). — (EN) En bemærkning til forretningsordenen, hr. formand: vi har brugt omkring tre dive minutter af spørgetiden til Rådet om spørgsmålet vedrørende Tyrkiet.
Mr Schieler (S). — (DE) The President of the Coun cil has said that it will not be possible to decide whether Turkey has returned to democracy until after the elections in October.
De Ti er klar over, at der må findes varige løsninger på pro blemerne for de mange flygtninge, også selv om bosættelsen i tredjelande, især i De europæiske Fællesskabers medlemsstater, har ført til en væsentlig nedgang i det samlede flygtningetal.
Like Mrs Hoff, I wish to ask him whether he does not find it inconsistent on the one hand to be opposed to the unfreezing of Com munity resources for the time being while on the other hand proposing to the German Parliament that Ger man resources should be released.
De Ti arbejder videre med løsningen af dette problem.
Can it be concluded from this that he is releasing the resources although he knows that Turkey has not returned to democracy?
Formanden. — Det er netop af denne grund, at jeg har foreslået rådsformanden at behandle alle spørgsmål under ét.
Given the Community's frequently declared opposition to apartheid, why have only two Member States consistently supported this stance throughout the 1979 and 1980 UN General Assembly votes on South Africa?
Israel (DEP). — (FR) Hr. rådsformand, jeg takker Dem for Deres svar.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) The German Parliament felt that the requirements for the release of resources as laid down in its resolution of 5 June 1981 had been satisfied.
De ved udmærket, at der kommer nogle meget foruroligende oplysninger fra denne verdensdel, nemlig at de kampucheanske tropper er i færd med at besætte visse lejre.
Where the Federal Government has to take decisions, it must abide by the resolutions and decisions of the German Bundestag.
Har De ikke til hensigt at anmode Deres kolleger om at træffe nye foranstaltninger med henblik på at begun
Where the Council has to take decisions, on the other hand, it must abide
Fellermaier for ellers bliver meningen med de enkelte medlem mers spørgetid og spørgeret ændret til det modsatte.
Genscher take in a large number of refugees from all corners of the world, including quite a number from the camps in South-East Asia.
Formanden. — Jeg har taget dette samtykke for givet.
The Ten are continuing to cooperate in the search for a solution to this problem.
Fich (S). — Jeg har bedt om ordet til forretningsordenen, fordi hr. Genscher foreslog, at vi skulle vente med disse spørgsmål, og jeg synes, det er et fornuftigt forslag.
Mrs Ewing (DEP). — Will the President-in-Office please comment on the voting record of the Nine at the United Nations, as in 1979 and 1980, on apart heid, it was quite disgraceful and totally unacceptable to this Parliament?
Jeg vil derfor vente med mit spørgsmål, indtil det har været drøftet udenrigsministrene imellem.
Did the Foreign Ministers improve their unity in the next two years, 1981 and 1982, and if not, will the Presidency take steps to secure genuine solidarity among the Ten in the voting?
Genscher, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (DE) Det er hensigten at tale om disse berørte problemer, som jeg ved bekymrer alle medlemsstater, i forbindelse med udenrigsministrenes samråd.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) To the first part, no.
Fellermaier (S). — (DE) Er De måske i stand til at oplyse Parlamentet, om De som tysk udenrigsminister allerede i sidste uge i Bonn gjorde hr. Turkmen opmærksom på disse betænkeligheder?
Mr Israel (DEP). — (FR) Mr President-in-Office, I thank you for your reply. As you know, very disturbing news is reaching us from that part of the world, with reports that Kampuchean troops are occupying certain camps.
Gredal (S). — Hr. formand, De bliver nødt til at rette Dem efter spørgsmålenes rækkefølge.
Mrs Ewing (DEP). — Mr President, on a point of order.
Min holdning er den samme som hr. Fichs: jeg vil gerne vente med svaret til efter rådsmødet.
I really did not understand to which part of my question I was getting a 'Yes' or a 'No'.
(Moreland anmodede om ordet)
Mr Genscher. — (DE) Questions to this effect have also been discussed in the past.
Genscher. — (DE) Som jeg allerede har sagt, vil disse spørgsmål blive behandlet i forbindelse med udenrigsministrenes næste samråd.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) I was first asked if I could say why the Ten have not all cast their votes the same way. The answer is 'no'.
Jeg forstår ikke, hvorfor De vil lægge mig fast på det.
Question No 34, by Mr Israël (H-548/
Formanden. — Jeg gik ud fra, at hr. Fellermaier ville tale til forretningsordenen.
What is the Foreign Ministers' position with regard to the exclusion of previously active democratic politicians from engaging in political activity in future under the draft constitution adopted on 7 November 1982?
Genscher. — (DE) Hr. Hänsch, da De nu bruger ordet »rådsmøde«: Det drejer sig om udenrigsministrenes møde den 1. marts.
Question No 36, by Mrs Gredal (H-629/82):
Plaskovitis (S). — (GR) Det er velkendt, hr. uden rigsminister, at det i den tyrkiske militærjuntas forfatning forbydes lederne af de gamle politiske partier i et tidsrum på ti år at opstille til valg og danne nye par tier, ikke engang på den nye forfatnings betingelser.
In its resolution on Laos of 14 October 1982 and at the third meeting with the interparliamentary delegation from the ASEAN countries on 17 and 18 November in Strasbourg, the European Parliament stressed the need for a speedy solution to the acute problem of the South-East Asian refugees in camps in Thailand.
Endvidere forbydes det de gamle parlaments medlemmer, som ikke på nogen måde er blevet dømt af militærdiktaturet, at danne nye partier inden for fem år, mens de, som er blevet dømt, udelukkes fra at stille op.
Do the Ten intend to take any further measures to increase and expedite the acceptance of refugees from Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam in the Community countries on a permanent basis, particularly when this reunites families?
De oplysninger, vi har fået angående den valglov, som er under udarbejdelse, er allerede temmelig nedslående.
What is the attitude of the Foreign Ministers towards the action taken by France, the Netherlands, Denmark, Norway and Sweden to bring Turkey before the European Court of Human Rights?
van Minnen (S). — (NL) Det drejer sig ikke så meget om spørgsmålet som om proceduren.
Question No 37, by Mr Hansch (H-631/82):
Som med rette nævnte af hr. Genscher — og dette også til hr. More lands orientering — er det ikke rådsformanden eller Forbundsrepublikken Tysklands udenrigsminister, der taler nu, men formanden for EPS' indviklede struktur.
Would the Foreign Ministers state what information they have with regard to allegations of tor,ture in Turkish jails, how they regard such allegations, and whether they consider that human rights are being adequately protected and respected in Turkey?
Genscher. — (DE) Udelukkelsen af demokratiske politikere fra politisk aktivitet er ikke i overensstemmelse med vore forestillinger om et demokratisk
Mr Genscher, President-in-Office of the Foreign Ministers meeting in political cooperation. — (DE) As my predecessor as President-in-Office said in reply to Mr Haagerup's question on refugees in Indochina, the Ten do not pursue any kind of common policy on refugees.
Genscher. — (DE) Jeg har til hensigt at behandle disse spørgsmål på udenrigsministrenes møde den
Question No 38, by Mr Fich (H-633/82) :
Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Jeg vil gerne stille uden rigsministerenes formand et spørgsmål i forbindelse med fru Gredals hoved- og tillægsspørgsmål, som berørte et alvorligt emne.
Mr Moreland (ED). — Mr President, you now totally baffle me, because you took a supplementary from Mr Fellermaier, who is not even one of the questioners who put the question.
De har altså udformet en kritik af Tyrkiet.
Why did you call Mr Fellermaier?
Det er lige ledes velkendt, at også den græske regering har udformet en sådan kritik.
President. — I was under the impression that Mr Fellermaier wished to speak on a point of order.
Hutton (ED). — (EN) Vil rådsformanden i betragt ning af, hvad han har fortalt Parlamentet, give os til sagn om, at man vil prioritere, at drøftelserne i kontaktgruppen og i selve Rådet afsluttes i juli måned i år?
Mr Moreland (ED). — On a point of order, Mr President, we have spent some thirty minutes of Question Time to the Council on question about Turkey.
Valget til Europa-Parlamentet finder sted om mindre end 18 måneder, og beslutningen er derfor set fra vort synspunkt meget vigtig.
We now have Questions Nos 35 to 38 on the same subject, and I would suspect precisely the same people will want to ask questions.
Genscher. — (DE) Jeg kunne ikke være mere enig med Dem: Ja!
I would, therefore, suggest that we skip Questions Nos 35 to 38 and that the authors receive written answers.
Jeg vil derfor spørge hr. Genscher, hvorledes han før kunne påstå, at han taler på Rådets vegne, når regeringerne i Frankrig, Nederlandene, Danmark og Grækenland har en helt anden mening end hans egen?
President. — That is precisely the reason I propose that the President-in-Office of the Council should answer all these questions together.
Genscher. — (DE) Jeg taler altid på Rådets vegne.
Mr Fellermaier (S). — (DE) Mr President, it does you credit to recommend to the President of the Council, who is now speaking for the Foreign Ministers, that he answer all these questions together.
Ephremidis (COM). — (GR) Jeg vil gerne spørge rådsformanden, om han mener, at det pågældende emne hører under undenrigsministrenes bemyndigelse, og hvis han gør, hvilke bestemmelser i traktaten er det så, der giver denne bemyndigelse?
But when I read the questions, I find they are so different in content that they can only be answered together if the Members concerned agree. Otherwise, we shall be defeating the whole object of Question Time and denying the individual Member his right to ask questions. tions.
Sherlock (ED). — (EN) Til forretningsordenen, hr. formand, den nummererede rækkefølge i hele spørge dokumentet har tilsyneladende ingen forbindelse med nogen aritmetisk, geometrisk eller logaritmisk opstilling, som jeg nogen sinde har stiftet bekendtskab med. Man kan kun formode, at det er helt tilfældigt.
Mr Plaskovitis (S). — (GR) Foreign Minister, it is well known that according to the Constitution of the military Junta in Turkey it is forbidden, for a period of ten years, for the leaders of the former political parties to submit their candidature or to found new parties, even in accordance with the conditions specified by this Constitution itself.
Det er i overensstemmelse med grundprincipperne i traktaterne at gøre brug af alle muligheder for en videreudvikling af den europæiske enhed.
Our information con cerning the electoral law in course of being formulated is already rather pessimistic.
De forskel lige beslutninger fra Det europæiske Råd vedrørende videreudvikling af den europæiske union har også, hvis jeg husker ret, altid fået kraftig opbakning fra Europa-Parlamentet.
Foreign Minister, what are we to expect from elections of this kind, and what steps are the Foreign Ministers contemplating under these conditions to protect the fundamental political rights that are universally recognized within the European Community and that are being so openly flouted by the new Turkish Constitution?
Dette ville naturligvis tvinge vort personale, som for bereder spørgedokumentet, til at lave en samling af, eller jeg kunne måske endog sige en klump af »Turkish delight«, som man serverede for os her til efter middag.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) The exclusion of democratic politicians from political activity does not comply with our ideas of a democratic order.
Antoniozzi (PPE). — (IT) Hr. rådsformand, på det vigtige møde, der fandt sted den 24. januar sidste år, mellem Europa-Parlamentets udvidede præsidium og Ministerrådet hørte vi interessante og positive erklæringer vedrørende Genscher-Colombo-akten.
Mr Genscher, President-in-Office of the Foreign Ministers meeting in political cooperation. — (DE) The intention is that the problems referred to in these questions, which I know are the cause of concern in all the Member States, should be discussed at the next meet ing of the Foreign Ministers.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 39 af Hutton (H-654/ 82):
Mr Fich (S). — (DA) I have asked to speak on a point of order, because Mr Genscher proposed that we should wait with these questions, and I think that is a sensible proposal.