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En af disse fire kan tage ordet. Hvis de andre tre ikke har indvendinger imod det, giver jeg den ordet, der meldte sig først, og det er hr. Simmonds. monds.
What I can say is that I am reliably informed — when the honourable lady speaks about the links between the two years — that in fact 1986 will follow 1985.
Seligman (ED). — (EN) Jeg er sikker på, at jeg taler på vegne af mine kolleger i Det forenede Kongerige. ge.
Mr Clinton Davis. — Mr Cryer, who was an old parliamentary colleague and friend of mine in the days when we were both in another place, will realize, of course, the sensitivity of the issue that he has raised.
Larive-Groenendaal (L). — (NL) Tre korte spørgsmål, hr. kommissær.
It is a matter to which I must give close consideration.
Er det ikke sådan, at det står enhver frit for at afslutte kontrakt med det nederlandske Gasunie, så f.eks. de franske, tyske eller engelske stor forbrugere i gartaerierhvervet kan aftale samme pris som gælder for de nederlandske drivhusgartnerier?
I think that it would be wrong of me to produce on the spur of the moment a definitive reply to the question that he has just raised.
Seligman (ED). — (EN) Hr. Simmonds er en af mine gode venner, og hans navn lyder som mit!
President. — As they deal with the same subject, the following questions will be taken together.
(Munterhed)
Question No 3 by Mr De Pasquale (H-560/84)1
Har Kommissionen allerede behandlet dette spørgsmål?
Subject: Misuse and diversion of EAGGF funds in Sicily by the Mafia
Således har en betydelig petrokemisk virksomhed i Hainaut haft og har stadig den dag i dag vanskeligheder på grund af denne politik og lammelsen i Kommissionen eller dennes udeblevne aktion.
Recent investigations by the legal authorities in Sicily have disclosed that further very serious crimes have been committed in connection with the allocation of Community financial aid.
Narjes. — (DE) Spørgsmålet om virkningen af konkurrencefordrejende gastariffer på industrielle aktiviteter er et særligt problem, der ikke står i direkte for bindelse med gartneri og ikke med de nævnte præcedenstilfælde. denstilfælde.
Mr Wijsenbeek (L). — Wishing the Commissioner well a little more from the centre than the gentleman at my right, I nevertheless would like to ask him if he does not think that all these questions and all his answers to them are a matter of, as the Germans say, kurieren am Symptom.
Blot tillader jeg mig at henvise til fru Lizins spørgsmål : De skadelidte hjælpes ikke ved, at fællesskabskassen får penge.
Offences have been committed not only by private individuals, but also by certain public authorities and agencies.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 2 af Fitzsimons (H296/84):
These include:
Om: 1986 — europæisk færdselssikkerhedsår
Mr Clinton Davis. — The honourable gentleman is quite right.
For lidt siden sagde han til sin umiddelbare nabo, at man ikke måtte være mistænksom.
I am receiving, I am glad to say, support from a very wide geographical spectrum, which is nice.
Så stopper det, og i oktober begynder det igen.
I do not know how long it will all last.
Clinton Davis, medlem af Kommissionen. — (EN) Kommissionen har netop sendt en meddelelse til Rådet med sine første tanker om færdselssikkerhedsåret 1986.
— the payment of a distillation premium for wine adulterated in a distillery in Partinico;
Narjes. — (DE) Jeg forstår den bekymring, der figger bag dette spørgsmål. Min bemærkning tidligere vedrørte det generelle spørgsmål, om det blot på grundlag af mistanke er tilladt at indlede en procedure mod en potentiel synder.
— fraud and corruption by APAS (Association of Sicilian Citrus Fruit producers) in connection with the withdrawal of fruit and vegetables in Catania.
Fitzsimons (RDE). — (EN) Må jeg først og fremmest ønske kommissæren alt godt med hans opgave frem over?
The point made by the honourable gentleman is, of course, one which impinges upon road safety.
Vi er altså på grundlag af denne erfaring absolut klar over nødvendigheden af at handle hurtigst muligt, hvilket hr. Andriessen altså allerede har understreget. get.
Every thing we have heard today will fall within our consideration for this very important road safety year.
Gautier (S). — (DE) Hr. kommissær, er De bekendt med, at spørgsmålet om den opdelte gaspris også har en negativ virkning på den øvrige europæiske kunstgødningsindustri? Mit andet spørgsmål: I betænk-
The question of unsatisfactory infrastructure and the need to remedy it is not entirely within my hands or those of this Parliament, but obviously we have to concentrate on it.
Mener Kommissionen ikke, i betragtning af den tragiske situation i Irland, hvor mere end halvdelen af de børn, der mister livet ved en ulykke, omkommer ved færdselsulykker, og også en stor del af de ældre, at der er behov for en massiv oplysningskampagne med sigte på væsentligt at sænke disse forfærdende tal, og vil den nye Kommission give tilsagn om, at den straks vil skride til handling?
The current investigations are now making it quite apparent — and the facts are accordingly being brought to the notice of the general public — that there are very serious cases of collusion between the mafia, a number of local administrators, certain super visory bodies and certain processing industries, whose purpose is the fraudulent diversion of Community contributions, to the detriment of Sicilian agricultural producers.
Europa-Parlamentets forhandlinger
The Commission is therefore asked to answer the following questions:
Cryer (S). — (EN) Jeg ønsker hr. Clinton Davis alt godt med hensyn til en effektiv funtionsperiode.
To what extent has the Commission fulfilled the obligations placed upon it by Article 9(2) of Regulation (EEC) 729/70 and by sub sequent Community legislation2in respect of contributions from the EAGGF Guarantee
Moorhouse (ED). — (EN) Må jeg også ønske hr. Clinton Davis alt mulig held i hans nye rolle som kom missær for transportanliggender?
Mrs Seibel-Emmerling (S). — (DE) Commissioner, 1985 is not only Road Safety Year, it is also European Youth Year.
Vi vil bl.a. se på motorkøretøjers, herunder bussers, udformning og vejsikkerhed. Vi vil også undersøge buschaufførers kørselstid og ansvar.
I draw attention to the first part of the question, namely the special situation of young people, who form the major part of numbers of persons killed in road accidents.
Dury (S). — (FR) Når man bestmmer, at et år skal helliges ét spørgsmål eller én kategori, må det altid befrygtes, at det bliver glemt i de følgende år.
Former oral question with debate (0-79/84), converted into a question for Question Time.
Wijsenbeek (L). — (EN) Jeg ønsker også kommissæren alt godt — her lidt mere fra centrum end den herre til højre for mig.
Regulations (EEC) 283/72 (OJ L 36 of 10.2.
Clinton Davis. — (EN) Det ærede medlem kom med et meget vigtigt indlæg.
1972) and 1697/79 (Art. 9); Directive 77/435.
Kommissionen for De europæiske Fællesskaber bedes derfor besvare følgende spørgsmål :
President to granting the funds currently being allocated ?
Den betragtning, det ærede medlem anstillede, berører naturligvis også færdselssikkerheden.
Section and, in particular, in respect of the audits and documentary checks relating to those contributions?
Mener Kommissionen stadig, at det er tilstrækkeligt, at »Kommissionens tjenestegrene arbejder snævert sammen med den italienske regering« (3) for at opklare og standse bedrageriet?
Does the Commission still believe that it is enough for the Commission's staff to work closely with the Italian Government1for the purpose of detecting and suppressing fraud?
Hvis dette samarbejde har fundet sted, kan Kommissionen da i detaljer redegøre for resultaterne deraf?
If such collaboration has taken place, can the Commission give a detailed report on the results obtained?
Mener Kommissionen ikke, på baggrund af problemets omfang og alvor, at tiden nu er inde til at tage et selvstændigt initiativ af mere generelt omfang?
In view of the scale and the seriousness of the operations described, would the Commission not agree that it is high time that measures of an independent and a more general nature were adopted?
Seibel-Emmerling (S). — (DE) Hr. kommissær, vi skal i 1985 ikke blot forberede færdselssikkerhedsåret, men har også det europæiske ungdomsår.
Mr Clinton Davis, Member of the Commission. — The Commission entirely shares the concern expressed by honourable Members that Community funds be used for the purpose for which they were intended.
Jeg henviser til udgangspunktet for dette spørgsmål, nemlig til den særlige situation for de unge, der udgør den største del af ofrene blandt de trafikdræbte.
However, the Commission itself checks the use of funds in three ways : through the clearance of accounts procedures, through the work of the fraud and irregularities service and through selected checks.
Hvordan agter Kommissionen at lægge pres på Rådet for at få det til at styrke Kommissionens kontrolbeføjelser som krævet af Europa-Parlamentet (4)?
What kind of pressure does the Commission intend to bring to bear on the Council to induce it to strengthen its supervisory powers, the need for which has been strongly emphasized by the European Parliament2?
og spørgsmål nr. 4 af Molinari (H-561/84)(5):
Question No 4 by Mr Molinari (H-561/84)3
Om : Anvendelse af Fællesskabets strukturfonde i Italien og især på Sicilien
Subject: The use of EEC structural funds in Italy, especially in Sicily
Clinton Davis. — (EN) Jeg forsøgte at sige allerede i starten af mine bemærkninger, at fordi spørgsmålet udtrykkeligt vedrører unge og ældre, har vi i sinde at lægge vægt på de to områder, men vi skal selvfølgelig dække hele færdselssikkerhedsspektret.
Considering that in many cases money allocated to Italian companies or local authorities from structural funds have been used by criminal organizations and/or the Mafia for their own pur poses, can the Commission say:
I betragtning af, at der er talrige eksempler på, at penge fra stukturfondene bevilget til virksomheder og/eller lokalforvaltninger er blevet anvendt til forbryderformål og mafiaformål, bedes Kommissionen oplyse:
Mr President, a full reply to both questions would involve a great deal of detail, and I think that it would be best if Commissioner Andriessen were to write to Mr De Pasquale in reply to his detailed points. Further, the details requested by Mr Molinari will be included, I am advised, in the reply to Written Question No 1333/84, which was put by the honourable Member.
Om Kommissionen er i stand til at kontrollere anvendelsen af penge bevilget fra de forskellige strukturfonde under dens kompetence?
Whether it is in a position to monitor the use made of money handed out from the various structural funds under its control?
Om Kommissionen kan give oplysninger om :
Whether it is in a position to supply details of
— det bevilgede beløbs størrelse — det udbetalte beløbs størrelse — den eventuelle saldos størrelse — formålet for hver eneste virksomhed og/eller lokalforvaltning på Sicilien i de sidste 10 år?
— the use made of the money; in respect of every Sicilian company or local authority that has received aid over the last 10 years?
Formanden. — Da de følgende spørgsmål vedrører samme emne, vil vi under ét behandle spørgsmål nr. 3 af De Pasquale (H-560/84) ('): Om : Mafiaens svindel med EUGFL-midler på Sicilien
Mr De Pasquale (COM). — (IT) I want to ask the Commission the following: Knowing that in Sicily the Mafia has established a close financial and administrative network criminally exploiting the producers, why has the Commission never felt the need to prevent and combat the abuse of Community regulations which was tolerated, and often actively promoted by the governing bodies and parties, especially certain sections of the Christian Democrats?
Under retsundersøgelserne på Sicilien for nylig har man opdaget yderligere alvorlige lovovertrædelser i forbindelse med ud betalingen af fællesskabsstøtte.
What procedure it usually follows in order to supervise the allocation of funds to companies and/or local authorities?
Lovovertrædelserne er ikke blot begået af private, men også af en række offentlige myndigheder og organer. Der er især tale om:
Whether it does not feel that it should let the Italian judiciary see any files it may require?
— opdagelse af fiktive fremgangsmåder hos ESA (organisation for landbrugsudvikling) vedrørende udbetaling af støtte til hvede og olivenolie;
Whether it does not feel that it would be advisable to consult the Italian judiciary prior
) Svar afgivet af Dalsager på skriftlig forespørgsel af De Pas
Answer by Mr Dalsager to a written question by Mr De Pasquale (OJ C 189/10—14. 7. 83).
C 292 af 8.11.1982.
82 — OJ C 292 of 8. 11.72.
) Tidligere mundtlig forespørgsel med forhandling (0-80/84),
Formerly an Oral Question with debate (0-31/84), now tabled as a question for Question Time.
Clinton Davis. — (EN) Kommissionen må ligesom Parlamentet være meget foruroliget over beskyldninger for bedrageri af så stort omfang som dem, det ærede medlem henviser til.
Mr Clinton Davis. — The Commission, like this Parliament, must be deeply concerned about allegations of fraud which are of such momentous importance as those to which the honourable Member refers.
Med dette formål for øje anvender Fællesskabet en række kontrolmetoder.
Community expenditure when the Italian Government should be doing that itself?
De lokale myndigheder har en nøgleposition i denne procedure.
Would it not be far better, Commissioner, for you to put in your own staff to make sure that the funds are spent properly in Italy rather than add to the piles of money that are going to Italy presently?
Med hensyn til de landbrugsspørgsmål, hr. De Pasquale har rejst, ligger hovedansvaret for at kontrollere de udgifter, der finansieres af landbrugsfonden, hos de kompetente myndigheder i hver medlemsstat.
President. — Before I call on the Commissioner to reply, Mr Pearce wants to raise a point of order, I believe.
Kommissionen kontrollerer imidlertid anvendelsen af midlerne på tre måder: ved clearing af kontiene, ved arbejdet i afdelingen om bedrageri og uregelmæssigheder og ved udvalgte strikprøver.
Mr Pearce (ED). — Mr President, I was trying to raise a point of order following Mr Hughes's supplementary question.
Jeg tror, at jeg på min kollegas vegne kan forsikre Parlamentet om, at der ikke vil blive tale om at negligere noget som helst aspekt i den efterforskning, der bør foretages.
I think in speaking for my fellow Commissioner that I can assure this Parliament that there will be no question of neglecting any aspect of the investigation that needs to be undertaken.
Jeg vil imidlertid gerne sige — og her taler jeg måske i en vis forstand som jurist — at det er forkert at drage forhastede slutninger om, hvem der konkret er ansvarlig for kriminelle handlinger, før efterforskningen er afsluttet og der er foretaget retsforføolgning.
What I would say, however — and perhaps I speak here in a sense as a lawyer — is that it is wrong to jump to conclusions about those who are specifically responsible for criminality until investigations have been concluded and a trial has been undertaken.
Jeg mener, at det er en almindelig regel i hele Fællesskabet og i ethvert civiliseret retssystem.
I think that that is a common rule throughout the Community and throughout any civil ized legal apparatus.
Jeg vil derfor ikke slutte op om ham og hænge nogen specielt ud for øjeblikket.
So, I would not wish to join him in condemning anybody specifically at this moment.
Med hensyn til strukturfondene anvender Kommissionen og Revisionsretten sine egne kontrolmetoder med de lokale myndigheders hjælp.
I think, Mr President, it would have been better if you had advised Mr Hughes that his supplementary question was nothing to do with the question that was put and if you had instructed him to withdraw that question and if you had, in fact, asked the Commissioner not to deal with it.
Må jeg understrege, at Kommissionen er meget villig til at stille de oplyninger, den måtte blive anmodet om, til rådighed for de italienske retsmyndigheder.
That I believe, Mr President, with respect, is how these matters should be conducted.
Hughes (S). — (EN) Anvendelsen af EFs strukturfonde giver også adledning til bekymring i Det forenede Kongerige.
Mr Hughes (S). — The use of EEC structural funds is also a cause for concern in the UK.
Er Kommissæren bekendt med, at der med regionalfondens bevilling til Det forenede Kongerige i efteråret blev givet over 20 mio til British Telecom umiddelbart før dets privatisering?
Is the Commissioner aware that the autumn Regional Fund allocation to the UK gave over 20 m to British Telecom on the eve of its privatization?
Er han bekendt med, at i Englands jobfattige nordlige region gik over 6 mio af de bevilgede 9 mio til British Telecom med det resultat, at der kun kunne forventes oprettet 52 arbejdspladser?
Is he aware that in the job-starved northern region of England over 6 m of 9 m aid granted went to British Telecom, with the result that only 52 jobs were expected to be created?
Til sidst: Hvordan kan kommissæren forklare en så uforholdsmæssig stor be villing til British Telecom på netop dette tidspunkt, og mener han ikke, at det udsætter EF for den be skyldning, at det medvirkede til at fylde lommerne på potentielle aktionærer på bekostning af den hårdt til trængte jobskabelse?
Finally, how does the Commissioner explain such a disproportionate grant to British Telecom at that particular time, and does he not feel that it leaves the EEC open to the charge that it was involved in lining the pockets of potential shareholders at the expense of urgently needed job creation?
Clinton Davis. — (EN) Jeg ved, at det spørgsmål, det ærede medlem har rejst, figger ham meget på sinde, men jeg tillader mig at sige, at det ikke rigtig kan udledes af det spørgsmål, der er stillet mig, og som vedrører kriminelle handlinger.
Mr Clinton Davis. — On the matter raised by Mr Provan, I would join with him in congratulating the Mem bers from Italy who were responsible for raising this important question. I think that his criticisms of a particular Member State are not particularly welladvised, if I may say so with respect.
Spørgsmålet om politisk moral eller retskaffenhed og den måde, hvorpå en medlemsstat anvender disse midler, er et helt an det spørgsmål, som der uden tvivl er en hel del strid om.
Questions of this kind are subject to joint invigilation which will have to be stepped up in the light of what has been alleged but I will draw his concern to the attention of Commissioner Andriessen though I think that on reflection the honourable gentleman would not have wished to couch his remarks in quite the language he used.
De Pasquale (COM). — (IT) Jeg vil gerne spørge Kommissionen, som ikke kan være uvidende om det tætte net af administrativ, finansiel og politisk med delagtighed i mafiaen på Sicilien til skade for producenterne, hvorfor man i grunden aldrig har indset nødvendigheden af at foregribe og forhindre den svigagtige udnyttelse af fællesskabsforordningerne som tolereres og ofte fremmes af regeringsorganerne og -partierne, især af visse dele af de kristelige demokrater.
Mr Clinton Davis. — I know that the honourable gentleman feels very strongly about the issue that he has raised, but with great respect it does not really arise out of the question which I have been asked, which deals with criminality. The question of political moral ity or probity and the manner in which a Member State used these funds is a totally different question, about which there is no doubt a considerable measure of controversy.
Provan (ED). — (EN) Først vil jeg komplimentere hr. De Pasquale og hans gruppe for at rejse dette spørgsmål i Parlamentet.
Mr Provan (ED). — First of all, can I congratulate Mr De Pasquale and his group on raising this issue in the House.
Det er et særdeles vigtigt spørgsmål, og jeg mener, at de ikke blot ser det i øjnene og erkender det, men de fremhæver noget af den ulovlige trafik, der foregår i deres land, og som ethvert anstændigt medlem af Fællesskabet afskyr på det kraftigste.
It is a very important issue indeed, and I believe that not only are they facing up to it and acknowledging it, but they are emphasizing some of the practices that are taking place in their own country, which any decent member of the Community utterly abhors.
Jeg henvender mig så til Kommissionen.
Can I address myself to the Commission?
Kan den med de enorme summer, der for tiden går til Italien — jeg har fået at vide, at f.eks. 20% af det europæiske budget for 1982 gik til Italien — virkelig forsvare sin nuværende position, hvor den tillader midler at strømme dertil uden behørig kontrol af, hvorledes de
With the vast sums that are going to Italy currently — I am told that, for instance, 20% of the 1982 European budget went to Italy — can they really maintain their current position of allowing funds to flow there without monitoring properly how those funds are spent?
For så vidt angår enhver aktivitet i luften, der forsinkes af tåge, har jeg som kommissær for transportanliggender i de sidste fem uger fået en særlig dårlig start ved at være blevet forsinket på hver eneste fly vetur, jeg har foretaget.
As far as aerial activities of any kind being delayed by fog are concerned, as the Commissioner responsible for transport, over the course of the last five weeks, I have made a particularly bad start by being delayed on every single flight that I have made.
Det beklager jeg.
I am sorry about that.
Jeg vil undersøge det nærmere.
I will look into it.
Gautier (S). — (DE) Først vil jeg gerne støtte hr. De Pasquales forslag om en forhandling om dette spørgsmål.
Mr Gautier (S). — (DE) I should first like to support Mr De Pasquale's motion for a debate on this question. tion.
Pearce (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg forsøgte at komme med et indlæg til forretningsordenen efter hr. Hughes' tillægsspørgsmål.
I will draw to the attention of my colleague all the observations that have been made during the course of this period of questions.
Jeg mener, hr. formand, at det ville have været bedre, hvis De havde informeret hr. Hughes om, at hans tillægsspørgsmål ikke havde noget at gøre med det spørgsmål, der var stillet, pålagt ham at tage spørgsmålet tilbage og anmodet kommissæren om ikke at behandle det.
I am sure that in relation to the Italian presidency, these matters will be drawn to the attention of the President-in-Office of the Council; there will be discussions with him representing the anxiety which has been expressed, not simply, may I say, by Parlia ment but by the Commission itself.
Jeg tillader mig at mene, at det er sådan, disse sager bør ordnes.
I hope that the honourable gentleman will accept that from me.
Nu til mine spørgsmål, hr. kommissær.
Now for my question to the Commissioner.
Jeg er ikke sikker på, om De har haft tid til at læse Revisionsrettens særberetning i EFT af 17. december 1984 — altså for en måned siden — om anvendelsen af kontrolforanstaltninger på området landbrugsfinansiering. I denne beretning fra Revisionsretten står der en lang række interessante ting, som vi som Parlament allere de har kritiseret i tre år.
I am not sure whether he has yet had time to read the special report of the Court of Auditors in the Official Journal of 17 December 1984 — a month ago — on the imposition of directives on scrutiny of transactions forming part of the system of agricultural financing.
Jeg vil gerne komme tilbage til spørgsmålene fra hr. Provan om olivenolie, om de såkaldte »karrusel«-operationer, som nævnes udtryk keligt i Revisionsrettens beretning, eller operationer, der kun står på papiret.
I should like to come back to Mr Provan's question in connection with olive oil, to so-called 'merry-go-round' operations, to which the Auditors' report refers specifically, i.e. transactions which exist only on paper.
Dette har været velkendt for Parlamentet i tre år, og vi har kendskab dertil fra Kommissionens officielle statistikker.
Parliament has known about them for three years, and we know about them from the official statistics of the Commission.
Har Kommissionen truffet nogen foranstaltninger, både hvad an går udarbejdelse af direktiver og overvågning, for at sætte en stopper for sådanne operationer?
Has the Commission taken any steps, as regards either the wording of the relevant Directives or surveillance, in order to put a stop to such operations?