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Vi vil derfor gerne have punkt a) i det foreliggende forslag til beslutning ændret som anført i vort ændringsforslag.
fore that recital (a) of the present resolution be replaced by our amendment.
Endvidere mener vi, at punkt c) udgør en indblanding i Israels indre anliggender, hvorfor vi ønsker det fjernet, idet vedtagelse af dette punkt kunne skabe en beklagelig præcedens, selv om disse tilkendegivelser, som det så udmærket blev sagt for lidt siden, efter vor opfattelse viser, at Israel er et virkeligt frit land, et land der tillader den offentlige mening at tilkendegive sin utilfredshed.
Furthermore, Mr President, we regard recital (c) as an interference in the internal affairs of Israel, and we would like to see it deleted, because if this paragraph were adopted it would set up a regrettable precedent, even if, in our view — and this has been very well put just a few moments ago — these demonstrations prove that Israel is a genuine democracy, a country in which public dissatisfaction may be voiced.
Hr. formand, forslaget til beslutning af Jaquet og Hänsch kommer nærmest vore opfattelser.
Mr President, the Jacquet-Hänsch draft resolution is in conformity with our own views.
Vi vil stemme for det.
We shall vote for it.
Endelig ville jeg, hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, tro, at det ville tjene Parlamentet til ære snarest muligt at tage imod den nyvalgte præsident, Amin Gemayel, om hvis bror vi nu véd, at han er blevet myrdet af en ung venstreekstremist.
Finally, Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I believe that it would be greatly to Parliament's credit if it were to receive as soon as possible the new elected President, Mr Amin Gemayel, whose brother was as we now know, foully assassinated by a young left-wing extremist.
d'Ormesson. — (FR) Hr. formand, Libanons blod og tårer tvinger os til at holde vore lidenskaber i tømme, hvis vi vil have kontrol over de blodige begivenheder, der nu har hærget dette land igennem syv år.
Mr d'Ormesson. — (FR) Mr President, the blood and tears shed in Lebanon oblige us to control our passion ate feelings, if we really want to get to grips with the tragic events which have drenched that land in blood for the past seven years.
Jeg behøver næppe at gentage, at vi beklager, at Europa-Parlamentet ikke har fundet det nødvendigt at sende en delegation til Israel og Libanon, og at Parlamentet har foretrukket at udsætte ethvert møde med det israelske parlament. Og til sidst, hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, ønsker jeg at udtrykke min glæde over, at vi næsten er nået frem til en fælles tekst om et så vanskeligt og ømtåleligt anliggende.
I would also remind the House that we truly regret that the European Parliament did not see fit to send a delegation to Israel and to the Lebanon, preferring to avoid any direct confrontation with the Knesset.· Finally, Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I am very happy that we have practically agreed upon a joint text on an affair that is both difficult and delicate.
de Goede. — (NL) Hr. formand, vi drøfter i dag for et hundrede og syttende gang situationen i Mellem østen. Jeg vil i dag være kortfattet og kun fremsætte tre bemærkninger.
Speaking on behalf of Pierre Pflimlin, Louise Moreau, Erik Blumenfeld, Jean Seitlinger and others, I main tain that we should condemn in the severest possible terms the attacks on human rights, the kidnappings, the innumerable murders and massacres, no matter where or by whom carried out, such as those of Damour and Beit Meltat in 1976, Brih in 1977, Ras Balbeck and Kaia in 1978 or that of the Palestinians in Sabra and Chatila barely a month ago.
Man kan også undre sig over, at ophavsmanden til det attentat, der kostede Bechir Gemayel livet, ikke er blevet nævnt i forslaget til beslutning; denne Habib Chartonni var rekrutteret af det yderliggående nationalsocialistiske syriske venstreparti.
Furthermore, we are also entitled to ask why the assassin who took the life of Beshir Gemayel is not named in the motion for a resolution. He was a certain Habib Chartonni, who had been recruited by the extreme left Syrian National Socialist Party.
For det første vil det afskyelige blodbad, som fandt sted i de palæstinensiske lejre Sabra og Chatila, for evigt være en skamplet på Israel.
First, the appalling bloodbath which took place in the Palestinian camps Sabra and Chatila will always be an ugly blot on Israel's name.
Den uafhængige undersøgelse, som vi går ind for, er ganske vist endnu ikke påbegyndt, men tilstedeværelsen af den israelske hær, efter at den rykkede ind i Vestbeirut, retfærdiggør efter min mening allerede tilstrækkeligt den anklage, som Israel bestemt ikke går helt fri af.
Certainly, the independent inquiry with which we agree is not yet underway, but the presence in West Beirut of the Israeli army after its incursion justifies, in my opinion, the accusation that Israel is not entirely blameless.
Det er meget sørgeligt, at et folk, det israelske, som selv måtte udholde så mange hårde prøvelser, nu selv bliver beskyldt for folkemord.
It is very sad that the Israeli people, who have themselves had to pass through so many ordeals, should now be accused of genocide.
Det er positivt, at det i Israel også føles sådan, hvilket fremgår af de masse demonstrationer, der i protest fandt sted i Israel. Vi
On the credit side is the fact that in Israel itself the same sentiments are felt, as can be seen from the massive protest demonstrations there.
For mange vækker det frygtelige mindelser at høre kombinationen nationalsocialistisk.
When we hear the two words national and socialist together, they bring back horrible memories for many amongst us.
Mindelser om de fire år, hvorunder jøder og kristne kæmpede side om side for friheden og hyppigt måtte betale den med deres liv.
There were four years during which, under the shadow of death and often paying that very price, Jews and Christians fought side by side to regain their freedom.
Og hvis Libanon i morgen genvinder sin fulde suverænitet, så vil det også være som følge af det blod, de israelske soldater har udgydt.
And when the Lebanon has its full sovereignty restored to it, that will also owe itself to the blood shed by Israeli soldiers.
Under sådanne omstændigheder kan man i øvrigt ikke nøjes
We must also have the courage to ask the Unites States, France and Italy, which represent our Community in that area, to maintain their forces, and even to strengthen them, in
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Der bør også fremsættes forslag om omgående hjælp for at skaffe husly til de mennesker, der som følge af den netop stedfundne krig står uden tag over hovedet.
It is a tiny territory, covering an area of only 10 452 square kilometres but with a proud history and culture and rich in hope and courage.
Vor forsamling beskæftiger sig tit på sin egen måde med menneskerettighederne.
Our Assembly often addresses itself as best it can to human rights problems.
Libanon er i dag et af de lande, for hvis vedkommende det er nødvendigt at kæmpe for menneskerettighederne.
Today the Lebanon is one of the countries in which the battle for human rights is being waged.
På mine franske kommunistiske og beslægtede kammeraters vegne vil jeg 'anmode forsamlingen om at lægge den størst mulige ansvarsfølelse for dagen med hensyn til de lidelser, som befolkningen i denne egn har gennem gået, og med hensyn til freden i denne del af verden.
On behalf of my French Communist and Allies friends, I urge this House to show its deep and abiding sense of responsibility in the matter of the sufferings that have been endured by the people of that area and in the restoration of peace in that part of the world.
Israël. — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg har et minut til rådighed til at give Dem min opfattelse af denne sag.
Mr Israël. — (FR) Mr President, I have only one min ute to tell you how I feel about this entire matter.
Først og fremmest vil jeg gerne give udtryk for min anerkendelse af den forståelsens ånd, der herskede under kompromisforslagets udarbejdelse, i særdeleshed til den kommunistiske gruppe eller i hvert fald til dennes italienske medlemmer.
I should like first of all to pay tribute to the spirit of understanding that prevailed when this joint motion was being drawn up and to pay tribute to the Com munist Group, or at least to the Italian Members of the Communist Group.
Le Roux. — (FR) Barbariet i Sabra og Chatila, der fordømmes af den ganske verden og af et stadigt voksende antal israelske demokrater, føjer sig til de 30 000 døde og sårede som følge af de israelske bombeangreb på Beirut. Uden at medregne skaderne, der beløber sig til mange milliarder dollars.
Mrs Le Roux. — (FR) The barbarities of Sabra and Chatila, which have been condemned by the entire world and by more and more democratically minded people in Israel, must be added to the 30 000 dead and wounded in the Israeli attacks and bombardments on Beirut, not to mention the millions and millions of dollars worth of damage.
Nu fortsætter tragedien under andre former.
The tragedy continues to be enacted in other forms.
For de palæstinensiske flygtninge og den libanesiske nationalbevægelse har kæmningen af Vestbeirut og arrestationerne i alvorlig grad skadet genoprettelsen af den nationale enighed.
For the Palestinian refugees and the Lebanese national movement the searches and arrests in West Beirut are putting the restoration of national unity and harmony in serious jeopardy.
Derfor haster det med at sætte alt ind på, at Libanon kan genfinde freden.
It is essential to do our utmost, and immediately, to see that peace is restored to the Lebanon.
Hvorfor tales der ikke om PLO i denne beslutning, og hvorfor kommer man ikke ind på det grundlæggende spørgsmål om forhandling med PLO?
Why is there no mention of the PLO in this resolution and why does it not touch on the basic question of negotiations with the PLO?
De husker sikkert, at det i Venezia-erklæringen og i Rådets erklæring af 20. september blev anført, at PLO under alle omstændig heder skulle inddrages i forhandlingerne.
You will remember that the Venice Declaration and the Council statement of 20 September said that in any peace formula the PLO would have to be associated with the negotiation.
For mit vedkommende vil jeg gerne have lov til at citere en udtalelse, hvis ophavsmand De skal få lov til gætte hvem er: »Hvis PLO ikke går ind for en poli tisk forhandlingsløsning i forbindelse med Israel anerkendelse og slår den vanvittige tanke ud af hovedet, at Israel skal knuses, således som det endnu kan læses i visse tekster, så vil problemet ikke kunne løses«? Hvem har sagt disse ord? Det har François Mitterrand, den franske præsident!
I am going to give you a quotation, and I shall do it in the form of a riddle. Who said: 'If the PLO does not adopt the political solution of negotiating in full recognition of the right of the State of Israel, to exist, if it does not put out of its head the obsession with the destruction of Israel that is still to be found in certain documents, it will remain impossible to solve this problem'?
Capanna. — (TT) Hr. formand, i mangel af bedre støtter jeg det fremsatte kompromisforslag.
Mr Capanna. — (IT) Mr President, for want of any thing better, I support the mediation resolution which has been proposed.
Dog må jeg for at være oprigtig tilføje, i særdeleshed over for hr. d'Ormesson, at når FN er sædet for folkeretten, må man huske på, at Israel har ladet hånt om ikke færre end 170 af denne organisations beslutninger. Hvis logikken har en mening, må deraf følge, at Israel i henhold til folkeretten er lovløs i det internationale fællesskab.
However, in all fairness it must be said, with Mr d'Ormesson particularly in mind, that if the UN is the seat of international law it must be remembered that Israel has disregarded as many as 170 of that organization's resolutions.
På de franske kommunistiske og beslægtede medlem mers vegne vil jeg anmode forsamlingen om at udtrykke sin skarpeste fordømmelse af de skændige og barbariske forbrydelser, der er blevet begået mod civile i flygtningelejrene Sabra og Chatila.
On behalf of the French Communists and Allies, I ask this House to issue the most solemn condemnation possible of the hideous and barbarous crimes commit ted against the civil population of the Sabra and Chatila camps.
Jeg vil anmode forsamlingen om at kræve, at undersøgelserne klart kommer til at visse, hvor ansvaret ligger — og i særdeleshed Israels.
I ask the House to demand that the enquiries to be caried out should clearly establish the guilt of the various parties in this matter, in particular that of Israel.
Jeg foreslår, at Europa-Parlamentet kræver tilbagetrækning af de israelske styrker i Libanon i overensstemmelse med De fore nede Nationers sikkerhedsråds resolutioner nr. 508 og 509 samt tilbagetrækning af alle udenlandske tropper i landet med undtagelse af dem, som Libanons regering selv ønsker.
I propose that the European Parliament should demand the withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from the Lebanon, in conformity with Resolutions 508 and 509 of the United Nations Security Council, and the withdrawal of all foreign troops from that country, with the exception of those authorized by the Lebanese Government.
Videre anmoder vi Kommissionen om snarest at aflægge beretning for Parlamentet om de allerede iværksatte finansielle og humanitære aktioner samt om, hvad der kan tages under overvejelse med henblik på effektiv og hurtig deltagelse med lægehjælp, sundhedstjeneste, fødevarehjælp og finansiel støtte.
We would also ask the Com mission to report to our Assembly as soon as possible on the financial and humanitarian measures already undertaken and those that may be envisaged in the future to enable us to participate as effectively and rapidly as possible in providing medical and health care, food and financial aid.
Jeg skal gentage, at det er vor pligt at gøre alt for at bidrage til freden i Libanon og Mellemøsten, men det vil ikke kunne lade sig gøre uden dannelse af en palæstinensisk stat, uden respekt for libanesisk suverænitet og national samling eller uden garanti om sikkerhed for samtlige lande i området.
It is our duty to do every thing possible to help the cause of peace in the Lebanon and the Middle East, and that cannot be done without setting up a Palestinian State, which will respect the Lebanon's national unity and sovereignty and at the same time guarantee the security of all the States in that region.
I denne forbindelse ønsker vi at henlede opmærksomheden på De Ti's erklæring af 20. september, hvori der appelleres til alle parter for at få
With this in mind, we would draw the attention of the House to the statement issued by the Ten on 20 September, which appealed to all the parties concerned to meet each other half way in their efforts to find a broad peace settlement and urged Israel, following the overtures that came from the Arab Summit in Fez, to show a real determination to make further progress in the peace negotiations.
F.eks. denne, at få måneder før staten Israels voldelige oprettelse massakrerede den nuværende nobelpristager og chef for Israels regering, Begin, i spidsen for sin hemmelige milits — Irgun —
Mr d'Ormesson is right: we ought to add a few more details, that for instance just a few months before the violent formation of the State of Israel, the present holder.of the Nobel Peace Prize and head of the
Capanna på en nat 254 børn, kvinder og gamle i en palæstinensisk landsby, hvorved han indledte en sådan terror bølge, at der i de følgende måneder skete den første store masseflugt af arabisk-palæstinensiske befolkninger på ca. 750 000 mennesker.
Israeli Government, Mr Begin, had the head of his secret militia — Irgun — massacred in just one night 254 women, children and old people of a Palestinian village, spreading a wave of terrorism such that in the succeeding months it led to the first major exodus of Palestinian Arab people totalling some 750 000 per-
udviklingshjælp fra EF i medfør af finansprotokollerne til deres samarbejdsaftaler med Fællesskabet. Kommissionen vil også pege på den bistand, der ydes gennem UNRWA til de palæstinensiske flygtninge i Libanon såvel som i andre lande i området.
In this connection, it should be stressed that the Lebanese authorities have asked the World Bank to coordinate reconstruction aid, and that the Bank is sending a delegation to the Lebanon at the end of October.
På denne måde har Kommissionen i sinde at presse alle de nødvendige foranstaltninger igennem med henblik på øjeblikkelige, humanitære hjælpeaktioner, genopbygningshjælp og en mere langsigtet udviklingshjælp.
There Mr d'Ormesson, is the origin of the violence; there is the origin of the unresolved problems and the reason for so much blood being spilled in the Middle East and, in particular, at the expense of the Palestinian people.
Her, hr. d'Ormesson, er oprindelsen til volden; her er oprindelsen til de uløste problemer, som har kostet Mellemøsten og i særdeleshed det palæstinensiske folk så meget blod.
The Commission would also remind the House of the aid given through UNRWA to Palestinian refugees in the Lebanon and in other countries in the area.
Ændringsforslag nr. 1-711/9, 1-722/2
Amendments Nos 1-711/9 and 1-722/2
En sidste bemærkning.
One last point.
Vi må i dag passe på, at vi ikke fremmer en — om jeg så må sige — euroisraelsk idé med hensyn til spørgsmålene om semitisme og antisemitisme.
We must take care, at the present time, not to cultivate a sort of Euro-Israeli idea in relation to the problems of semitism and anti-semitism.
Også jeg vil hævde, at der i dag er en betydelig fare for antisemitisme. Og hvis vi ikke er skeløjede, men ser alle bestanddelene, må vi indrømme, at racismen i sig selv er en vildfarelse, og at antisemitismen som en særlig form for racisme også i sig selv er en vildfarelse og derfor bør fordømmes i alle sine ytringsformer.
I would agree that today there is a serious danger of anti-semitism.
Hvad enten antisemitismen retter sig mod jøderne — i Rom, i Paris, i Bruxelles — eller den praktiseres af staten Israel mod palæstinenserne, som også er semitter.
Not only when anti-semitism is practised against the Jews — as in Rome, Paris and Brussels — but also when anti-semitism is practised by the State of Israel against the Palestinians, who are also Semites.
Formanden. — Anmoder De herom for hvert enkelt ændringsforslag?
Mr Marshall. — Mr President, in view of the reservations expressed by a number of Members about differ ent paragraphs in these resolutions, can I ask that they be voted on paragraph by paragraph?
Marshall. — (EN) Hr. formand, da ændringsforslaget stillet af lord O'Hagan m.fl. meget vel kan være det, som muligvis vedtages, formoder jeg, at det er det første, som De sætter under afstemning.
Mr Marshall. — Mr President, as the amendment tabled by Lord O'Hagan and others may well be the one that is eventually, approved, I suspect that may be the first one you are voting on.
Formanden. — Nej, vi stemmer først om ændringsforslaget af Bord.
President. — No, we are going to vote on the Bord amendment first.
Dalsager, medlem af Kommissionen. — Hr. formand, Kommissionen kan helt og fuldt tilslutte sig den harme og afsky, de ærede medlemmer af Parlamentet giver udtryk for i anledning af massakrerne i Sabraog Chatila-lejrene.
The statement, by the Council of Ministers of 20 September on behalf of the Ten expresses the Com munity's attitude towards these events and to the problems in the Middle East.
Forhåbentlig vil de internationale styrkers tilstedeværelse forhindre, at lignende episoder gentager sig.
Over the last few months, the Community has already given the Lebanon almost 22 million ECU in the form of emergency and food aid, to which must be added the humanitarian relief measures provided on a bilateral basis by the Member States.
Marshall. — (EN) Så er det ændringsforslaget af lord O'Hagan, jeg henviser til.
Mr Marshall. — In which case I refer to the amend ment in the name of Lord O'Hagan.
Efter forkastelsen 1-722/2
After the rejection of Amendments 1-722/2
Fællesskabet har i flere erklæringer givet løfte om at deltage i genopbygningen af Libanon, senest i erklæringen af 20. september, og Kommissionen er ved at undersøge, hvordan dette løfte kan føres ud i livet.
The Community has made many statements — the most recent was made on 20 September — committing itself to participate in the rebuilding of the Lebanon, and the Commission is currently studying how this undertaking can be implemented.
Schinzel. — (DE) Hr. formand, jeg er noget forbavset over denne fremgangsmåde.
Mr Schinzel. — (DE) Mr President, I am astonished at the procedure that is being adopted.
Hvis De nu lader fore tage delt afstemning, vil det i praksis betyde, at der til hvert afsnit stilles et forslag om, at det skal udgå, og hvis vi forkaster det, udgår afsnittet.
If you now put every paragraph separately to the vote, that is tantamount to allowing a motion for the deletion of each paragraph, since if we reject a paragraph it is deleted.
Da min kollega, hr. Pisani, som er ansvarlig for udvikling, talte i udvalget om udvikling og samarbejde den 28. september, pegede han på, at Kommissionens nødhjælp burde koncentreres om et specielt emne eller aspekter, som nærmere skal fastlægges inden for rammerne af et helhedsprogram.
As my colleague Mr Pisani, who is responsible for development, stated in the Committee on Develop ment and Cooperation on 28 September, the Commission's emergency aid must focus on special items and aspects to be more precisely determined within the framework of the general programme.
Formanden. — Hr. Schinzel, enhver kan stille forslag om, at der stemmes afsnit for afsnit.
The final decision will naturally depend on requests from the
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I am, however, aware that no other amendments are to be voted on.
Vil alle de øvrige afsnit da være erstattet af dette enkelte afsnit?
Otherwise, Mr President — and this is something I would insist on ■— my own amendments to the individual paragraphs would have to be put to the vote.
Vi når frem til en absurd situation, hvis vi går frem på denne måde.
President. — Mr Schinzel, anyone may move that we vote paragraph by paragraph.
med De forenede Stater, om en strategi for udbud.
In the meantime, however, butter stocks have increased again to about 400 000 tonnes.
Vi er ikke imod smørsalg til Sovjetunionen, men det må ikke ske på særlige vilkår, det vil sige ikke på gunstigere vilkår end dent, der gælder for andre tredje lande.
The situation is not urgent if one bears in mind that this level means a stock of 1 ■ 5 kg per capita of the EEC population. Nevertheless, we should learn from the mistakes of previous years and not wait until we have to sell at any price, but act in good time.
Formanden. — Forretningsordenen kan ikke inde holde bestemmelser om alle tilfælde, så vi undgår, at der opstår enkelte absurde situationer.
Mr von der Vring. — (DE) Mr President, can you tell me what happens if only one sentence of this com­promise resolution is adopted and the rest is rejcted?
Jeg sætter imidlertid min lid til forsamlingen, så vi undgår at komme i en sådan situation.
Is everything else then regarded as having being been replaced by that one sentence?
Kommissionen må gøre alt for, at den europæiske skatteyder kommer til at betale så små omkostninger som muligt.
We are not opposed to sales of butter to the Soviet Union, but these must not be governed by special conditions — that is to say, by better conditions than those of other third countries.
Såfremt vi intet gør, kommer vi i fare for til slut at måtte acceptere enhver pris, og dette ville medføre enorme omkostninger for de europæiske skatteborgere.
President. — True, our Rules of Procedure cannot be expected to foresee all eventualities and so prevent us from occasionally reaching an absurd situation; but I trust the wisdom of the House to see that we do not do so.