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Så skete der en fejl, hvor hr. Arndt havde mulighed for at gribe ind. Vi opholdt os længe ved det pågældende punkt, fordi vi allerede havde stemt én gang og så stemt om.
Mr Prag (ED). — Mr President, in addition to what Mrs Veil said, when you put Amendment No 15 to the House by a show of hands, had Mr Arndt been awake he should then have got up and said that he had asked for a rollcall vote.
Vi kender altså nøjagtig antallet af afgivne stemmer.
(Protests from the Socialist benches)
Hvad vil forsamlingen gøre, dersom afstemningsresultaterne ikke bliver identiske?
Mrs Veil (L). — (FR) Mr President, I really do not understand what all the argument is about.
Det er en helt umulig situation for et parlament.
We voted once on Amendment 15 without an electronic vote.
Hvis vi ikke havde stemt elektronisk, kunne man have forestillet sig muligheden af en ny afstemning, fordi den første ikke var blevet talt efter.
You made that check by way of an electronic vote.
Jeg anmoder indstændigt hr. Arndt om at acceptere, at det vil skabe en meget far ligt præcedens.
It would have been perfectly reasonable at that point for Mr Arndt to ask for a rollcall vote.
(Bifald)
(Applause from the Centre and the Right)
Jeg bebrejder alle dem, der påstår, at hr. Arndt sov, at de ikke indrømmer ham » retten « til at tage fejl.
If I had been down there and had put in a written demand on behalf of my group, I would have risen as soon as you asked for a vote by a show of hands.
Hvorfor kan man under disse omstændigheder ikke tage afstemningen om?
Mr Arndt should then have known that you were not acting in conformity with his request.
Arndt (S). - (DE) Hr. formand, fru Veil havde ret, hvis jeg havde tøvet.
(Protestfrom the Socialist benches)
Men jeg lod straks undersøge, om de i forretningsordenen anførte betingelser forelå.
Even if he did make the request, it is perfectly under standable that there should have been an oversight.
Men efter at jeg havde erfaret, at vor anmodning forelå skriftligt, hvilket blev overset, gjorde jeg straks opmærksom på forretningsordenens bestemmelser. Det må De ganske enkelt erkende !
We have voted on three paragraphs since then. We cannot go back, but someone who has made a request in advance should check that it is complied with.
Jeg beklager, men i forretningsordenen hedder det udtrykkeligt, at når en gruppe skriftligt krævet det, stemmes der ved navn.
This was a mistake, but we are none of us infallible.
Derfor kræver jeg nu i henhold til forretningsordenen afstemning ved navn.
The Chairman of the Socialist Group and all his Socialist colleagues should have woken up and asked for a rollcall vote at the time.
Rothley (S). - (DE) Hr. formand, i artikel 77 i for retningsordenen står der, at der » stemmes ved navn, hvis mindst enogtyve medlemmer eller en gruppe skriftligt anmoder herom, inden afstemningen påbegyndes«.
Mr Ford (S). — Mr Arndt's request seems to be eminently reasonable, namely that we stick by the Rules of Procedure.
Der stemmes, hedder det her!
The debate is over and the amendment is voted on.
Jet siger: nu må det være nok med forstillelsen ! Der er alt for mange her, der forråder deres vælgere.
Ford proud of their position and want to have their names recorded appropriately.
(Bifald fra de europæiske højrepartiers gruppe)
(Applause from the Socialist benches)
Under disse omstændigheder kan jeg ikke foretage en ny afstemning, hvilket jeg beklager, men jeg tager ansvaret for denne afgørelse.
having two different votes on the same paragraph, having decided in a second electronic vote that the first did not take place.
Luster (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, måske vil det overbevise hr. Arndt, når han overvejer, hvordan det ville have været, hvis kan ikke havde kunnet få fast slået det, han var i tvivl om, efter fem minutters forløb, men først efter fem timer.
Mrs Fuillet (S). — (FR) Mr President, I should like to respond to what was just said by Mrs Veil, who seems to be getting rather indulgent towards the staff.
Jeg vil slet ikke træde ham for nær, men blot forsøge med et eksempel at føre hans argument ad absurdum. dum.
I find it a bit much to make excuses for the staff when they have not done their job and at the same time criticize Mr Arndt for doing his when he asked whether or not his letter was actually delivered.
Peter Beazley (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, man har insinueret, at de konservative ikke er villige til at stå frem og sige, at de går ind for SDI.
Mr Arndt (S). — (DE) Mr President, Mrs Veil would be correct if I had hesitated. But I did send somebody immediately to check that we were fulfilling the requirements of the Rules of Procedure.
Arndt (S). — (DE) Min gruppe vil stemme for be tænkningen, men jeg ønsker her meget klart at tilkendegive vore problemer.
I am very sorry but the Rules of Procedure state clearly than when a political group tables a request in writing a vote shall be taken.
Vi var af den opfattelse, at betænkningen, som den havde foreligget, var en me get god betænkning, og vi havde absolut helhjertet støttet den, hvis det var blevet ved den hidtidige ord lyd.
Therefore, in accordance with the Rules of Procedure I request a vote by roll-call.
Hvis de, der går ind for dette, afgiver en stemmeforklaring i hen hold til artikel 80, før De lader den endelige afstemning finde sted, så kan vi finde ud af, hvem der er for.
If the President, who made this mistake or is at least responsible for it, also belongs to the same political group which is now against voting by roll-call, then the whole affair — I am not referring to the Rules of Pro cedure — is obviously politically embarrassing.
Der var i forbindelse med denne betænkning en diskussion om spørgsmålet om SDI, dvs. om det skulle med i betænkningen eller ej.
Mr Rothley (S). — (DE) Mr President, Rule 77 of the Rules of Procedure states 'the vote shall be taken by rollcall if so requested in writing by at least twenty-orie Members or a political group before voting has begun'.
Der var den afstemning — jeg vil gerne endnu er gang forklare det nærmere, da mange jo kun har afstemningslisterne — hvorefter den hidtidige formulering vedrørende SDI udgår i betænkningen.
A vote shall be taken it says! There are two aspects to the question: the group or 21 Members of this House have to table a request — and we all know that this was done in accordance with the Rules — and after that it is the sole prerogative of the President to ensure that a vote is taken by roll call, as is stated in the Rules of Procedure.
Vi har accepteret Deres afgørelse, hr. formand, selv om vi går ud fra, at vi endnu en gang skal forelægge spørgsmålet, om der trods alt i sådanne tilfælde ikke skal foretages afstemning ved navn, for udvalget for forretningsordenen og for an dragender.
According to the Rules of Procedure he must call the vote, and it is not the business of our Members to ensure that the President carries out his duties.
Formanden. — Kære kolleger, jeg er virkelig ked af den foreliggende situation.
Mr Stirbois (DR). — (FR) Mr President, this House has just voted in favour of the possibility of 'bringing countries from Eastern Europe seeking cooperation into various projects', meaning Communist countries.
Jeg mener, at sagens kendsgerninger er helt klare.
I say enough of this pretence!
Først stemte vi ved håndsoprækning.
There are too many people here who betray their electors.
Jeg lod stemme ved håndsoprækning, fordi jeg ikke var klar over, at der forelå en anmodning om afstemning ved navn.
Enough of this haggling over trivial mistakes, let us have a little order and dignity!
Så foretog vi kontrolafstemning ad elektronisk vej.
(Applause from the benches of the European Right)
Det er sket, men ikke ret tit.
I do not wish to offend him but simply to take his point to absurd lengths.
De har bemærket, at jeg gentagne gange uopfordret har foretaget elektronisk kontrolafstemning, som i almindelighed blot har bekræftet det allerede bekendtgjorte resultat.
Mrs Veil (L). — (FR) Mr President, I think that we must be careful to keep our heads in this House.
Der be står altså ingen tvivl om afstemningsresultatet.
There is a tricky problem, admittedly.
Under disse omstændigheder er det hr. Arndts ret at beklage sig, det erkender jeg.
We know this and we do not dispute that the request was made by Mr Arndt.
Det er det, der er sket.
We therefore knew the exact numbers voting.
Men nu er det spørgsmålet, om vi bør forkaste be tænkningen på grund af afstemningen.
Ten minutes or a quarter of an hour then elapsed.
Det te forslags forkastelse er den afgørende grund til, at vi nu ikke har nogen vanskeligheder med at støtte hele betænkningen.
If this had not been the case, it would be conceivable to take another vote since the first had not been checked numerically.
Jeg befinder mig altså i den situation, at en afstemning er gennemført korrekt, endda to gange, først ved håndsoprækning og dernæst ad elektronisk vej, men
We must make sure that we do not find ourselves in the absurd situation of
Chambeiron (COM). - (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne meget kort sige, at denne betænkning faktisk
Mr P. Beazley (ED). — Mr President, an allegation has been made that Conservatives are not willing to stand up and say they are in favour of SDL I am standing up and saying I am.
Jeg vil blot gøre opmærksom på, at bortfaldet af punkt 17, der var genstand for diskussionen om af stemningen, er ret afslørende for indstillingen blandt forsamlingens flertal.
taken — I should like to explain this once more to those who only have voting lists — which deleted the reference hitherto made in the report to SDL In was on this amendment that the question of how we should vote arose.
Det er tydeligt, at forsamlingens flertal har valgt at forlade Europas uafhængighed — og da i særdeleshed det teknologiske Europas — for at hægte sig på den amerikanske vogn og da i særdeles hed SDI.
We accepted your decision, Mr President, although it led us to refer the matter once again to the Committee on Rules of Procedure and Petitions to establish whether such a vote by rollcall should not be taken anyway.
Om det så kun var af denne ene grund, ville vi stem me imod hr. Poniatowskis betænkning.
We consider that as the electronic voting system yielded a result of 156 votes to 153 a serious vote by rollcall well have yielded the opposite result.
Derfor vil de britiske labour-medlemmer stemme imod denne betænkning.
This amendment, tabled by the Christian Democrats, envisaged that Parliament should take a positive stance on the question of SDL It was the rejection that prompted our decision to adopt the report in its entirety.
Tomlinson (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, det var meningen, at vi i denne uge skulle beskæftige os med ny teknologi som et middel til over for borgerne i Euro pa at demonstrere en sammenhængende europæisk stillingtagen til vor forskning og vort udviklingsarbejde.
Mr Chambeiron (COM). — (FR) Mr President, I should like to say very briefly that this report con tained some very positive things with which we were fully in agreement.
Den erkendte fejl hos administrationen og for mandens beklagelige og, tror jeg, ultra vires afgørelse har stillet Parlamentet i et farceagtigt lys.
However, the voting on the amendments has resulted in changes to the report which lead us to reject it.
Ud fra denne betragtning mener vi, at Parlamentets standpunkt hverken bør være for Weinberger eller for Reagan, men det bør være et standpunkt, som har monerer med fredens, sikkerhedens, fornuftens og klogskabens kræfter, som kræver, at vi ikke deltager i SDI-programmet, men fordømmer stjernekrigen.
The situation is therefore as follows: a vote has taken place in the proper manner — indeed two votes were taken — first by a show of hands, and then by electronic vote, but there was no rollcall vote. There can not therefore be any doubt or dispute about the result of the vote, and that is the really important thing.
Af disse årsager vil Grækenlands kommunistiske partis medlemmer af Europa-Parlamentet stemme imod Poniatowski-forslaget.
The fact is simply that Mr Arndt regrets — and I can sympathize — that the vote taken was not a rollcall vote.
Jeg vil derfor på grund af den situation, De har bragt os i derved, at vi ikke er i stand til ordentligt at regi strere vor stemme, følge mine andre britiske Labourkolleger og stemme imod denne betænkning — en betænkning som formanden ved sin afgørelse har gjort til et unødvendigt stridsspørgsmål ved den måde, hvorpå hele denne betænkning er blevet be handlet her i Parlamentet.
I would simply like to point out that the deletion of paragraph 17, which was debated when it came to the vote, is pretty indicative of the attitude of the majority in this House. It is clear that the majority in this House has chosen to abandon the cause of European independence — technological Europe in particular — and latch onto the American bandwagon and the SDL
Ippolito (COM). — (IT) Af de grunde, formanden for den socialistiske gruppe allerede har anført, er vi yderst utilfredse med den måde. hvorpå afstemningen er forløbet.
Now I cannot — and I apologize, and take responsibility for the decision — take a fresh vote.
I øvrigt mener vi, at dokumentet ved fjernelsen af punkt 17 helt igennem forvanskes.
This is reason enough in itself for us to vote against Mr Poniatowski's report.
Vores stilling er konsekvent: vi har altid hævdet, at Eurekaudfordringen skulle have været et svar på SDI.
Once a vote has been held, and held correctly what ever the particular circumstances, difficult though they may be, as in this particular case, I do not feel I have the right to have this vote taken and I must therefore say no.
Dette svar er ikke blevet givet.
Explanations of vote
Lizin (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, idet jeg understreger den glimrende indsats, der er gjort af energi, forsknings- og teknologiudvalget, og idet jeg fremhæver vigtigheden af de emner, der har fået en positiv behandling i betænkningen — uanset om det måtte være særprogrammer, telekommunikation eller større anvendelse af risikovillig kapital eller de store, positive passager om Eureka-programmet og dettes euro pæiske koordinering — vil jeg gerne sige, at afstemningernes virkninger har været overordentligt skade lige, først og fremmest fordi de sociale valg, der i særdeleshed fandtes i punkt 25, er helt udvandet, og fordi konferencen i mandags gav alt for lille en plads
Mr Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Mr President, the way that the subject and the voting has developed makes it clear that in the end we are not voting on the Poniatowski report as a whole, nor on a range of important issues in it, but that we are simply voting on whether or not the EEC is to support the programme of initiatives on strategic defence. From this standpoint we are really astonished by the attitude of the Chairman of the Socialist Group, who adopts and indirectly supports a proposed resolution in which not only is the subject of Star Wars not dealt with at all, but also the reference to it that did exist has been dropped.
Ford (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, denne betænkning er af stor betydning for Europas fremtid.
Mr Arndt (S). — (DE) My political group will adopt the report but I should like to make it clear that we are in somewhat difficult position.
Alligevel har vi haft meget lidt diskussion i stemmeforklaringerne af værdien af hele betænkningen.
We gave our full approval to the report in its original form and we should have supported it wholeheartedly if the original version had remained unchanged.
Betænkningen påpeger faktisk den teknologiske trussel fra Japan og De forenede Stater, som Europa står overfor.
We were in dis agreement as to whether the question of SDI should have been included in the report or not. A vote was
Lizin der afstemningerne om ændringsforslagene, at jeg er nødsaget til at stemme imod den.
Alavanos called for by non-participants in SDI, and condemnation of Star Wars.
Den væsentligste årsag er, at beslutningsforslaget ikke klart afviser en europæisk deltagelse i det strategiske forsvarsinitiativ (» stjernekrigen «).
able to properly record our votes, will be following my other British Labour colleagues in opposing this report — a report that the decisions of the Chair have made an unnecessarily divisive issue in the way the whole report has been conducted in this House.
til fagforeningerne,der blot var indbudt for en ordens skyld, men ganske særlig fordi den tydelige modstand mod SDI er opgivet.
Mr Ippolito (COM). — (IT) For the reasons that the chairman of the Socialist Group has already indicated, we are extremely dissatisfied with the way in which the voting has been taken.
Det vidner om et klart politisk valg, om en udvanding af det europæiske valg, hvilket indebærer fare for i det lange løb at gøre os til et Europa under påvirkning udefra.
This testifies to a clear political option, a dilution of European options, which is likely, in time, to turn us into a dom inated Europe.
Derfor stemmer jeg imod denne betænkning.
I shall therefore be voting against this report.
Gredal (S), skriftlig. — Den danske socialdemokratiske grupper ønsker et teknologisk avanceret Europa.
Mr Ford (S). — Mr President, this report is a very important report for the future of Europe.
Europas forenede ressourcer vil være nødvendige, hvis Europas teknologiske efterslæb skal indhentes.
Yet, we have had very little discussion in the explanations of vote of the value of the overall report.
Derfor må vi vende os imod forsøg på at begrænse det europæiske teknologiske samarbejde, således som den foreliggende betænkning af hr. Poniatowski ønsker det.
The report does point out the technological threat facing Europe from Japan and the United States.
Ikke kun EF-landene, men hele Europa bør i Fællesskab tage den teknologiske udfordring op.
It also makes the point that we should work together in Europe on strategic research and development; that we need to work together on strategic research and development if we are going to be in a situation where Europe can successfully compete with Japan and the United States.
Regalia (S). — (DE) Efter min gruppeformands er klæringer vedrørende spørgsmålet om, hvordan vor gruppe stemmer her, har jeg intet at tilføje.
What is required, of course, is a distinctly European approach that does not drag along behind the Americans or the Japanese, but learns some lessons from them both.
Men jeg for min part lægger stor vægt på — i tilfælde af uklarhed om vor holdning til dette system — i al offentlighed at erklære, at jeg ikke støtter forsøget på ved hjælp af SDI at flytte fortsættelsen af en bekostelig og asocial rustningspolitik ud i verdensrummet.
What is sad is that the way the vote has gone this afternoon — and I, like Mr Arndt, think the vote would have been different if Members had had to have their names recorded as to how they voted — has now made this report a divisive issue.
Det forekom mig muligt, og mine bestræbelser under forretningsordensdrøftelsen i udvalget for forretningsordenen og for andragender vil gå ud på, at protokollen senere kan rettes i denne henseende.
This repon will no longer be able to get support across the political groups, as it could have done if you had not forced through the support for the SDI programme that has been put in by some of the amendments.
Det er ikke første gang, Parlamentet behandler teknologispørgsmålet.
Therefore the British Labour members will be voting against the report.
Om punkt 17 siger vi, at vi ubetinget afviser enhver europæisk deltagelse i SDI. Om punkt 25 siger vi, at vi ubetinget står bag et socialt og økonomisk demokrati, også når det drejer sig om nye teknologier.
In view of the fact that this week was devoted to technology and modern electronics, I deplore the fact that no arrangements were made to use the electronic voting system, which refers to specific numbers and Members' place, to establish which Members in this particular case voted for or against Amendment No 15 and Amendment No 19.
Med andre ord: arbejdstagerne skal inddrages i alle afgørelser desangående. En delig siger vi om Eureka, at kun et civilt projekt, som alle EF-lande inddrages i, vil få vor støtte.
That would appear to me to have been possible, and in the context of the debate on the Rules of Pro cedure I shall endeavour, in the Committee on Rules of Procedure and Petitions, to ensure that, as far as this matter in concerned, the minutes will be corrected accordingly.
Huges (S). — (EN) Jeg vil stemme imod denne be tænkning, fordi jeg er totalt imod det farlige spil, den amerikanske administration spiller i forhold til stjernekrigen.
Mr Tomlinson (S). — Mr President, this week was supposed to be devoted to new technology as a vehicle to demonstrate to the citizens of Europe a coherent European position on our research and development work.
Især gør slettelsen af punkt 17 denne be tænkning uacceptabel for mig.
The admitted inadequacy of our services and the regrettable, and I believe ultra vires decision of the President, has projected this Parliament in a farcical light.
Den i omfang og indhold enorme revolution, som er i gang netop nu, sammen med behovet for større konkurrenceevne for produkter, metoder og teknologiske udviklinger tillader ingen ligegyldighed, men presser os tværtimod til hurtigst muligt at komme med et svar, udforme en strategi og etablere det teknologiske Europa, således at vi kan begynde at se en udvikling i Fællesskabet.
To deny Members of this House the opportunity, when properly requested in accordance with rules, to register their votes and to be accountable to their public opinion on such an important issue as the strategic defence initiative, is a disgrace to the democratic traditions of this House and which this House is obliged to uphold.
Enhver støtte, som vi her giver til stjernekrigsprogrammet, er et slag imod chancerne for atomnedrustning og fred. Derfor bør man stemme imod denne betænkning.
I therefore, because of the position that you by your decision, Mr President, have put us in in not being
Det første mål er uden tvivl forøgelsen af de euro pæiske produkters konkurrenceevne på de internationale markeder.
Mrs Van Hemeldonck (S). — (NL) The Flemish Socialists will be voting against this resolution.
Sideløbende med den økonomiske genrejsning bør tilstræbes en social forbedring og en kulturel højnelse.
We want clarity in the policy, and we want to say clearly what we support.
Den ønskede udvikling bør foregå via en generel udnyttelse af alle Europas muligheder, og kriterierne bør ikke kun være økonomiske, men også
Where para graph 17 is concerned, we say that we unconditionally reject any European participation in SDL As regards paragraph 25 we say that we unconditionally support social and economic democracy, even where new tech nologies are concerned. In other words, the workers
»ocíale og kulturelle.
must be involved in all relevant decisions.
Her bør fremhæves den euro pæiske karakter, som den teknologiske udvikling bør lave.
Finally, as regards Eureka, we say that only a civil project, in which all Community countries are involved, will have our support.
Jeg vil gerne benytte denne stemmeforklaring til at udtrykke min glæde over den livlige interesse, som mødeperiodens hovedemne har vakt.
Mr Hughes (S). — I will be voting against this report because I am totally opposed to the dangerous game the American administration is playing in relation to Star Wars.
Det skal siges, at interessen hovedsagelig har været følelig uden for mødesalen, ikke mindst i forbindelse med udstillingerne der har haft i tusindvis af besøgende, heriblandt mange unge mennesker.
The deletion of paragraph 17 in particular makes this report unacceptable to me.
Denne foranstaltning, der omtales af massemedierne, indgår som led i Europa-Parlamentets informationspolitik. Det er måske også et af svarene på vort ønske om at give et mere levende billede af Europa.
The technological revolution, huge as it is in both scale and quality, presently under way in connection with the need for greater competitiveness of our products, methods and technological developments, leaves us no margin for complacency.