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Og hvordan har situationen så udviklet sig siden da?
Political parties can now obtain authorization.
Jeg tror, at det bør nævnes, at Pakistan er et land af stor betydning : 90 millioner indbyggere og en betragtelig historisk fortid.
By the end of February, a week and a half ago, seven parties had been formally authorized, registered, and were functioning normally as political parties.
De historiske vandringer har igennem århundreder passeret det nuværende Pakistan : Alexander den Store, den store mogulske civilisation, sikherne og den britiske okkupation.
They include not only the party of the majority, the Moslem Parliamentary Party, but also parties belonging to the Movement for the Restoration of Democracy, the MRD, which, as everyone knows, has been the leading spokesman of opposition to President Zia al-Huq.
Det understreger tydeligt betydningen af dette land, der kul turelt er beriget på så mange måder, men især dets vigtige strategiske beliggenhed.
It is my feeling that this should be taken in and that it makes sense for this Parliament to encourage the pro cess of democratization which has started by acknowledging the progress achieved to date while pointing to the further progress which still needs to be made.
Det gælder som be kendt stadig. Det er derfor, at de store magter viser interesse for dette land.
True, there are still political prisoners.
Det er en traditionel samarbejdsaftale : mestbegunstigelsesklausul, garanti om bedst mulig udnyttelse af den generelle præferenceordning og ønske om at ska be direkte forbindelser mellem pakistanske og euro pæiske virksomheder, især inden for forskningen.
But it is also true that they will be actively involved in the forthcoming nationwide local elections.
I så henseende vil det blandede udvalg fort sætte sine bestræbelser efter aftalens fornyelse.
It is good that she should return, it is good that this should provide confirmation of the process of democratization.
Det skal bemærkes, at Fællesskabet og medlemssta terne har ydet 900 millioner dollars i støtte til Pakistan fra 1977 til 1985.
These parties are organizing public demonstrations showing how vigorous they are.
Til tider har den været helt oppe på 8% inden for landbrugssektoren.
On 16 February 1985, over 25 000 people demonstrated in the street, protesting against some of the things that the Government and the majority stand for.
Det ser således ikke ud til, at der består problemer på disse punkter.
These are clear signs that the process of democratization is in progress.
Men alligevel må vi erkende, at situationen ikke er god.
There is also expression of opposition through the press.
Og situationen forværres i øjeblikket.
There is no longer any censorship.
Handelssamkvemmet med Fællesskabet er af stor be tydning, da Fællesskabet er Pakistans største handelspartner, det må vi ikke glemme.
Mr President, some people will tell me that, while they do not doubt the accuracy of what I have just reported, as a recent eyewitness and a man committed to the struggle for human rights for many years, they nevertheless consider that there is no urgency and that· the matter can therefore be sent back to committee.
Samhandelen med Pakistan udgør 20%, medens den med Japan kun udgør 12% og med De forenede Stater 10% af totalen. len.
I fail to see how any further information could come to hand for the committee, unless it adjourned the matter for some time.
På dette område har Pakistan været genstand for fuldt ud berettiget kritik igennem såre lang tid.
With respect to honourable Members taking this view, I cannot agree, since Pakistan must also be viewed in the light of its international environment.
Situationen er stadig ikke helt tilfredsstillende. Som omtalt af ordføreren var jeg imidlertid for nylig i Pakistan — det var første gang en kommissær besøgte dette land — og jeg havde på stedet lejlighed til at konstatere det, der står i teksten: en omfattende demokratise ringsproces er iværksat.
We note that the United States are currently making a considerable effort in Pakistan.
De led imidlertid under en mangel : de afholdtes uden deltagelse af politiske partier.
They have provided USD 3 200 million were ten years.
Pakistan har benyttet generalpræferencesystemet på passende måde.
More important in my eyes is the abolition of the military tribunals and the transfer of jur isdiction to the ordinary courts.
Det vidner om en ikke-uvæsentlig formåen.
In my view, it is the best guarantee that there could be in a country on the way back to democracy. racy.
Blandt disse flertallets parti Moslem Parliamentary Party, men også partier under bevægelsen for demokratiets ge nindførelse, MRD, som af alle kendes som oppositionens store talsmand mod præsident Zia ul-Haq.
However, what the rapporteur did not men tion — and does the question to the Council refer to it either — is the fact that not only has martial law been lifted but so too has the state of emergency, which had
Alligevel er der stort underskud på handelsbalancen; over for Fællesskabet udgør dækningen kun 52%. Vor bistand har antaget forskellige former: udvikling af handelen, selvfølgelig fødevarehjælp som følge af den lave levestandard for slet ikke at tale om hjælpen til de afghanske flygtninge, men den kommer jeg tilbage til: 58 millioner over ti år.
Pakistan is one of the countries, along with India and a number of countries in South-East Asia, which are asking Europe to take positive and dynamic action to balance the presence of the Americans on the one hand and another very close large neighbour, the Soviet Union, on the other hand.
Partierne udfolder livlig virksomhed på offentlige mødes.
Let us not fail in this responsibility. Let us now show that we intend to honour it.
Der fandt bl.a. et møde sted umiddelbart for ud for mit besøg i Lahore som protest mod den amerikanske holdning i Mellemøsten. Et andet endnu
This will be all the more useful in that the Indian Prime Minister, Rajiv Gandhi, has made tremendous efforts to improve rela-
Cheysson ringsprocessen bekræftes ved denne lejlighed.
Cheysson tions between these two great countries.
Hr. formand, nogle vil nok sige, at de, til trods for at de ikke betvivler rigtigheden af det, jeg lige har sagt som nyligt øjenvidne og som personligt engageret i kampen for menneskerettighederne igennem en lang årrække, ikke mener, at det haster så meget, og at sagen kan sendes tilbage til udvalgsbehandling.
Let us not disturb the balance between India and Pakistan by doggedly leaving Pakistan out of our cooperation arrangements — least of all at a time like this, just after the formation in December 1985 of the South Asian Association, which has brought these two coun tries, India and Pakistan, together as partners, along side other countries with a keen interest in the development of this regional cooperation.
Tilbagesendelse til udvalget.
Let us not discriminate against one of the countries of the South Asian Association in relation to the others.
Jeg kan ikke indse, hvor for udvalget skulle vide mere om sagen, med mindre den udsættes et stykke tid.
Besides, I am not sure that democracy is more advanced in Bangladesh than in Pakistan.
De politiske fanger udgør et vanskeligt problem, og vi kan ikke acceptere, at det trækker i langdrag.
Finally, let us not forget, Mr President, that Pakistan performs a role extending beyond the confines of the region.
Jeg bemærker imidlertid, at livsstraffens brug har været stillet i bero fra årets begyndelse, og at en række politiske fanger er frigivet, ikke mindst tre ledere fra et af de største oppositionspartier, People's Pakistan Party.
It has a presence on the world stage: the Chairman of the World Bank International Monetary Fund Development Committee is a Pakistani, who is also currently President of the Senate in Pakistan.
Jeg bemærker endvidere, og det er i mine øjne endnu vigtigere, at militærdomstolene er afskaffet til fordel for de normale domstole.
It is a significant presence in the Islamic world, where, as we know, it is a powerful force for moderation.
Det udgør efter min opfattelse den bedste garanti, man kan forestille sig, i et land, der er på vej tilbage til demokratiet.
Moslem fanaticism is not the line adopted by Pakistan, nor even by the self-proclaimed Moslem movements.
Pakistan hører sammen med Indien og en række sydøstasiatiske lande til blandt dem, der ønsker, at Europa ved en aktiv og dynamisk indsats skal danne modvægt dels mod Amerikas, dels mod den store sovjetiske nabos indflydelse.
And on the day when there is a chance of peace between Iran and Iraq, Pakistan will, we know, have a part to play.
Vi har altid betragtet det som en af Europas opgaver. Vi må ikke renoncere på denne opgave, og det bør vi vise nu. Det er så meget desto nyttigere som Indiens premierminister, Rajiv Ghandi, har gjort en bemærkelsesværdig indsats for at skabe fred mellem disse to store lande.
In fact, it is one of the only countries, along with Turkey and perhaps Bangladesh, in a position to do so.
Som be kendt er der altid fare for at en gammel og dyb konflikt igen blusser op, og Rajiv Ghandis bestræbelser under hans møder med Pakistans præsident billiges af alle parter.
So the agreement will not help the refugees and we agree with what Commissioner Davignon stated here before Parliament a while ago and on another occasion too, namely that the Afghan refugees must be helped via international organizations such as the UN and that we too must take action in this context.
Alt dette, hr. formand er resultatet af den allerede af ordføreren omtalte ophævelse af den militære undtagelsestilstand.
My last point is so obvious that I could have left it out, but that would have been remiss of me.
Denne undtagelsestilstand ind førtes ved begyndelsen af krigen mellem Indien og Pakistan.
There are 3 million Afghan refugees in Pakistan.
Vi må ikke skade ligevægten mellem Indien og Pakistan ved at holde Pakistan uden for vort samarbejdssystem.
We are making major efforts to help the Afghan refugees — 110 m ECU in six years — and our govern ments have been doing more.
Vi bør ikke diskriminere et af den sydasiatiske sammenslutnings lande i forhold til de øvrige.
But let us not forget that none of this would be possible were it not for the attitude adopted towards the Afghan refugees by the Pakistani authorities in Baluchistan and the Punjab, in the north-west of the country.
For øvrigt er jeg ikke så sikker på, at demokratiet er mere fremskredent i Bangladesh end i Pakistan.
It would be perverse of us if, at such a time as this, we were to show a lack of interest in Pakistan.
Jeg mener, at alt dette bør bemærkes, og at det er rimeligt, at Europa-Parlamentet opmuntrer den ind ledte demokratiske proces ved at tage alle de gjorte fremskridt til efterretning og gøre opmærksom på, at yderligere fremskridt er nødvendige. Der er som be kendt stadig politiske fanger.
I therefore wish, Mr President, to issue a very solemn warning to those who want to put off this decision that it would be an act of irresponsibility to do so.
Og valget afholdtes uden lovlig deltagelse af politiske partier.
Incidentally, even at the time when martial law was still very much in force, Mr Mühlen, the rapporteur, was in favour of concluding this agreement.
Det skal dog siges, at de kommende kommunevalg, der omfatter hele landet, skal foregå med aktiv deltagelse af partierne. Den mest fremtrædende person i oppositionen mod general Zia er Benazir Bhutto, den myrdede præsidents datter.
But because of a political stalemate in the Committee on External Economic Relations, the majority could not decide whether to vote for the regulation and for the entry into force of the agreement or whether at this stage, and I emphasize at this stage, Parliament ought not to allow the agreement to go through.
Fru Bhutto regner snart med at vende tilbage til Pakistan. Det er udmærket, at hun vender tilbage, og det er en god ting, at demokratise
Logically this Parliament should really refer the report back to committee for it to decide our position on the agree ment.
Endelig bør vi ikke glemme, hr. formand, at Pakistan har en rolle, der går ud over regionen. Pakistan gør sig gældende på verdensplan : formanden for Den in ternationale Valutafonds udviklingskomité og for Verdensbanken er en pakistaner, der i øjeblikket er formand for senatet i Pakistan. Landet har sin betydning i den islamiske verden, hvor det som bekendt lægger stor moderation for dagen.
If that does not happen, we, at least we here in the plenary, have two alternatives: the motion by Mr Zarges and others to approve this regulation and the agreement, or the motion by Mr Seeler, Mr Hindley and myself not to determine Parliament's position for another six months, which would prevent the agree ment from entering into force at this point.
Den muhamedanske fanatisme er ikke den af Pakistan valgte linje — end ikke blandt de partier, der påberåber sig islam. Pakistan, det ved vi, kommer til at spille en rolle —
But I think that sounds and looks like a pretext, for the Group of the European People's Party already wanted to approve the agreement last year, long before martial law was lifted, and the Commissioner, the same one who is discussing
Cheysson de internationale institutioner, FN og lignende, og at også vi bør engagere os i dette spørgsmål.
Wieczorek-Zeul human rights here, had already prepared the matter before there were any signs of democratization.
som det sammen med Tyrkiet og måske Bangladesh er ene om at kunne spille — den dag, der bliver chance for fred mellem Irak og Iran.
on human rights should say openly that they are not interested in such considerations.
Min sidste bemærkining er så indlysende, at jeg kun ne spare den, men det vil være en fejl.
I suspect that in any case most of the Members of this Parliament are concerned less with such issues as 'human rights' or the 'level of democracy' than with the 'strategic role'.
Vi gør en stor indsats for at hjælpe de afghanske flygtninge — 110 millioner ECU over seks år — og med lemsstaterne har gjort endnu mere.
People often ask: but why should we take this position vis à vis Pakistan?
Vi yder moralsk støtte til disse flygtninge og til den afghanske mod standsbevægelses kamp mod besættelsesmagten. Vi bør imidlertid ikke glemme, at intet af alt dette kunne lade sig gøre uden den holdning, som de pakistanske myndigheder har lagt for dagen i Baluchistan og Punjab, den nordvestpakistanske provins, til fordel for flygtningene. Det vil være paradoksalt, dersom vi netop nu undlader at tilkendegive vor interesse for dette land.
I would reply very clearly: the West has a great influence on Pakistan; Pakistan depends heavily on the USA.
Jeg tillader mig derfor, hr. formand, indstændigt at advare dem, der måtte nære ønske om at udsætte beslutningen.
The Socialist Group does not reject an agreement as such, but we would like to see further steps towards democracy.
Det vil være mangel på ansvarsbevidst hed.
So far there have not been enough.
Logisk set burde Par lamentet egentlig sende denne betænkning tilbage til udvalget, så at der bliver truffet en afgørelse der, hvordan vi bør forholde os til aftalen.
The elections organized in Pakistan by Zia Ul-Haq were held without the parties, and after party representatives had been arrested — as has already been pointed out.
Hvis dette ikke sker har vi — i hvert fald her i plenarforsamlingen — to alternativer : forslag stillet af hr. Zarges og andre om at stemme for denne forordning og dermed for aftalen og forslag stillet af hr. Seeler, hr. Hindley og mig om, at Europa-Parlamentets stilling først skal afgøres efter et halvt års ventetid, hvorved aftalens øjeblikkelige ikrafttræden skal forhindres.
There is no genuine opposition in the parliament and at this point it is still quite undecided whether the genuine opposition can in fact express its political views.
Hr. Zarges og på veltalende måde også Kommissionens repræsentant, kommissær Cheysson, argumenterer i dag for, at aftalen skal kunne indgås, fordi krigsrettilstanden i Pakistan har været ophævet siden 1. januar 1986.
Mr Cheysson also pointed out that Mrs Bhutto is expected in Pakistan in a few days time.
Ønsker de at stemme imod aftalen, så må de gøre det, men så skal de samtidig gøre sig klart, at det næppe bliver betragtet som en opmuntring af Pakistans de mokratiske kræfter, som endnu ikke er færdige med at genindføre demokratiet, og som trænger til op muntring dertil, om ikke for andet så for at erindre pakistanerne om de afgivne løfter.
Nobody knows yet whether she will have the right to engage in political activity there or whether she will be placed under house arrest again.
Det har jeg også hørt kom missær Cheysson sige. Med dette argument »den strategiske rolle « har amerikanerne og mange andre i årevis støttet diktaturer som Ferdinand Marcos'.
The political prisoners have not been released yet and are still in detention.
Ar gumentet den strategiske rolle må ikke føre til, at vi støtter diktaturer overalt i verden og indretter vores standpunkt derefter.
In this we have the support of many — including some Pakistani — critical observers in Pakistan and at home.
Jeg synes, det er et vældigt hykleri at begrunde diskussionen om de afghanske flygtninge med indgåelsen af denne samarbejdsaftale, for på spørgsmålet i udvalget om, hvor mange flere penge der var stillet i udsigt i den nye samarbejdsaftale, henviste Kommissionens repræsentant, at der ikke står yderligere be villinger til disposition.
We must be especially glad — and we have to deal with this question in the present, and not look at it from the perspective of the past — that martial law really was lifted on 1 January as had been announced the autumn before, Mrs Wieczorek-Zeul; and that decided the direction we took in committee. From the outset that was the precondition for my group to enter into a new dialogue.
Flygtningene bliver altså ikke hjulpet gennem aftalen, men vi deler den opfattelse, som kommissær Davignon for nogen tid siden har gjort rede for over for Parlamentet og andetsteds, nemlig at de afghanske flygtninge bør hjælpes gennem
However, as we have just heard, that is still not enough for some groups in this House, just as the measures to restore a democratic form of government are not enough for them. I think we should once again clearly enunicate two principles which must be observed when we evaluate this kind of foreign trade agreement.
Hr. Cheysson har også henvist til, at fru Bhutto om få dage ventes i Pakistan.
This is also valid for Pakistan if we want to remain credible.
Der er i dag endnu ingen, der ved, om hun får ret til at argumentere politisk der, eller om hun igen f.eks. sættes under husarrest.
I know that part of this House likes to apply this principle when it is a question of left-wing dicta-
Wieczorek-Zeul til Muhlens-betænkningen ikke blive vedtaget, bliver vi i så fald nødt til at stemme imod betænkningen.
Zarges torships, but hesitates or gives an unconditional no, as we have just heard, when it is a case of right-wing dictatorships.
Jeg henviser til et citat fra »Times of India« af 21. januar, ifølge hvilket ministeren for justits og parlamentariske anliggender har sagt, at såfremt oppositionspartierne begynder en konfrontation med regeringen, risikerer de, at krigsretten bliver genindført.
Secondly, we cannot and must not try to act as the world's mentor in matters of democracy. It is not acceptable to carry over the experiences of our state systems which we have tried and tested over the centuries to a country like Pakistan.
Et tydeligere sprog kan man vel ikke føre!
There have never been what we would call genuine democratic decision-making structures there, not even under Mr Bhutto!
De politiske fanger er endnu ikke frigivet, de sidder stadig i arrest. Derfor vil vi — den socialistiske gruppe — vinde tid fdor at give demokratiseringsproces sen bedre chancer og for bedre at kunne bedømme den.
There has always been a small group that formed the will of the people to achieve an Islamic Republic.
Den anden grund til, at Parlamentet efter vores me ning først bør fastlægge sin holdning i dette spørgsmål efter en ventetid: Zia ul-Haqs forfatningsændringer har bidraget til, at en stor del af de brud på forfatningen, der blev begået under krigsretten, er blevet legaliseret.
Mr Bonaccini (COM). — (IT) Mr President, I realize that the importance of the question and the heat of debate can play ugly tricks, but I would like to advise Mr Zarges not to persist with his accusation of sabotage, directed at the Socialist Members of this Assembly. bly.
Ophævelsen af krigsret tilstanden er derfor på nærværende stadium en ren formalitet uden direkte praktiske konsekvenser.
I agree with him that it is not a question of teaching others the principles of democracy, but on one condition — that that is always remembered, in every circumstance, and bearing in mind that that does not mean that we have to give up our fight for democracy and acquiesce in everything that happens in the world.
Zarges (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, det europæiske folkepartis gruppe udtrykker sin tilfredshed med Mühlen- betænkningen; ordføreren har på meget kort tid med stort engagement vist vejen til et bedre og mere kvalificeret samarbejde mellem Fællesskabet og Pakistan.
If Mr Zarges will allow me, I will add that our continent has already experienced quite a number of 'free' elections, without parties.
Jeg vil gerne sige, at vi her igen bør nævne to principper tydeligt, som vi må tage hensyn til, når vi skal bedømme en sådan aftale på udenrigshandelens område.
Now that we are rid of them, may I be allowed to believe that a free political existence and a fight in which all the parties take part are essential conditions for the success of democracy.
En afstemning er efter vores mening heller ikke mulig, før disse spørgsmål er tilstrækkeligt belyst.
Commissioner Cheysson is right when he says that the Pakistan question is an old one.
Skulle man ikke ønske at lære dette memorandum om men neskerettighederne at kende og bedømme det, så burde man også åbent sige, at sådanne overvejelser er uden interesse.
He is a very able man, and I have a great regard for him; he has done every conceivable thing to get this agreement concluded immediately; he has said a lot about the past, has been more vague about the present, and has been very reserved regarding the future.
For det første er Det europæiske Fællesskab eksistentielt henvist til handelen med tredjelande.
Our democracy, our concept of a democratic structure, are simply not reconcilable with the laws of Islam.
Det kan i den forbindelse ikke alene blot støtte sig på stater, hvis politiske systemer i værdi er sammenlignelige med vores, og som står os nær, for ellers ville ver denshandel være praktisk talt umulig.
But if we start from that insight and then examine and evaluate what is happening in Pakistan now, we must admit that President Zia Ul-Haq's decisions go in the right direction with Pakistan, which is after all the purpose of the new agreement.
Det bør også gælde for Pakistans vedkommende, hvis vi vil forblive troværdige.
The last elections were free and fair, even if — and we do criticize that — only individuals and not party representatives could be elected.
Jeg ved, at en del af Parlamentet gerne anvender dette princip, når det gælder venstrediktaturer, men vakler eller udtaler et ubetinget nej, som det netop er blevet antydet, hvis det gælder højrediktaturer.
Today there is a pluralist parliament that holds debates, a press that supports pluralism, a civil government, and surely after eight years of mar tial law that is great progress.
Jeg ved også med hvilken voldsomhed, vi oplevede det i udvalget, den socialistiske gruppe forsøgte at torpedere udarbejdelsen af denne betænkning overhovedet.
I am convinced that this trend must and will continue, i.e. that we will see the position of the parties restored, full freedom of the press and independent judges.
Der spørges ofte: Hvorfor skal vi da forholde os sådan over for Pakistan? Jeg siger meget tydeligt: Vestens indflydelse på Pakistan er meget stor, Pakistan er stærkt afhængigt af USA.
But I think that qualified cooperation with Pakistan, and that is the aim of the agreement to which we want to say an unconditional yes today, is an excellent basis for ensuring that this trend continues in the right direction.