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Det socialistiske parti skulle hellere lade sig inspirere af holdningen i Frankrigs radikale parti, hvis navn forbindes med forsvaret af den konfessionsløse under visning, men som netop har fremhævet, at statens vigtigste opgave er at garantere tolerance, neutralitet og frihed.
In order to deal with these misgivings an amendment has been tabled in the name of representatives of a number of groups in this Parliament which I hope is going to enable us all to join in the vote at the debate, one which underlines the principles and which points to action which we all agree can usefully be taken in the Community.
Vil De derfor, fru formand, være venlig at sikre, at vi specielt får en klar redegørelse for, hvordan den retslige situation er?
For nearly three years now, this House has been a platform for the adversaries of the present French Govern ment.
For jeg vil gerne forbeholde mig ret til i lyset af den redegørelse at sammenkalde mit udvalg med henblik på at afgøre, om vi ønsker at tage den nye situation med i vore overvejelser.
Government, is somewhat strange that it is the very people who claimed to defend France's interests in Europe in 1979 who are the most eager to use an international institution as a forum in which to attack the policy of their own country. We cannot be accused of having used such methods.
Det ligger mig meget på sinde at spare Parlamentet for det arbejde og det besvær, det er at skride til en tidskrævende afstemning om forslag, som måske bliver gjort overflødige.
Mr Chambeiron (COM). — (FR) Mr President, I should not like to start a polemical debate with Mr Bangemann, in view of the fact that he is not here.
Det vil ikke være tilfredsstillende, hvis redegørelsen blot siger, at sagen er under overvejelse, vi ser på situationen, eller at noget måske sker.
It is, obviously, always highly disagreeable to talk to someone who is not there.
Vi ønsker i præcise vendinger at få at vide, hvad Kommissionen har til hensigt at foretage sig, så at vi kan udføre vor funktion med præcise mål for øje og forhåbentlig klare vejen for topmødet, som vi alle erkender er yderst betydningsfuldt, og som finder sted om mindre end en uge.
But I just wanted to say that yesterday, when I objected to the Luster report being on the agenda, I had the feeling that people did not understand me.
Kære kolleger, problemet omkring uddannelses- og undervisningsfrihed er europæisk.
We have said so repeatedly over the decades, but we are well aware that certain people have something completely different in mind.
Og i dag finder vi desværre i Frankrig den største trussel mod denne frihed.
No one in France is thinking of attacking freedom of education.
Ved massivt at stemme for Luster-betænkningen vil De derfor stemme til fordel for europæiske vilje og solidaritet, hvad angår denne kamp; denne fælles kamp for virkelig uddannelses- og undervisningsfrihed.
There is consultation going on between the government and the representatives of private education on the problems of education at the present time.
Formanden. — Tak, hr. Curry, for at have fremført dette meget vigtige synspunkt.
Above all I should like to reassure Mr Bangemann.
Nr. 1-311/37 de la Malène (DEP). — (FR) Fru formand, jeg vil gerne sige noget i forlængelse af de vigtige synspunkter, der blev fremlagt af formanden for land brugsudvalget, som henvendte sig til Kommissionen.
No 1-311/37
Vi indleder i morgen en af årets vigtigste diskussioner for Parlamentet og for landmændene.
We think that consultation between the interested parties is the right way to go about it and we hope it leads to practical solutions that are acceptable to everyone.
Formanden. — Hr. Haagerup, jeg erkender fuldt ud det rigtige i det, De sagde, nemlig at gruppeformændene tilfældigvis holdt møde på samme tid som koordinatorgruppen, som De er formand for.
You are right to underline the fact that the appropriate Community authorities must ensure that freedom of education is guaranteed in the Member States.
Men det glæder mig dog at kunne sige, at vi ikke dirigeres af vore politiske ledere; det er forsamlingen, der bestemmer dagsordenen.
This is why we shall denounce those who, by sectarianism and for electoral motives, are trying to thwart the hopes placed in these negotiations.
De har muligheden for kl. 15 i morgen at gøre indsigelse mod de forslag, gruppe formændene har stillet, og med forsamlingens tilslutning genopføre et hvilket som helst fremsat forslag til beslutning på dagsordenen. Det tilkommer forsamlingen at bestemme, hvad vi skal drøfte fredag formiddag, ikke gruppeformændene.
This is why, Mr President, although we once more state our attach ment to freedom of education and educational pluralism, with respect for individual beliefs and freedom of parental choice, we shall be voting against the Luster report which is, I repeat, aimed less at furthering freedom of education than firing a political campaign and dividing public opinion in my country.
Vi vil have, at Parlamentet engagerer sig med klarhed, det vil sige, at vi udtaler os i kraft af traktaterne, på Kommissionens foranledning.
There were 800 000 of us supporting consultation at Versailles a week ago.
Det er ene og alene om denne stilling, at vi skal udtale os, og ikke om de aftaler, som vi har fået at vide er indgået andet steds.
And that is why today 75 % of French people say no to private schools being integrated, without contracts, into a unified lay system.
Jeg ville derfor sætte pris på, at Kommissionen, på anmodning af formanden for landbrugsudvalget, i morgen fortæller os, hvad vi skal udtale os om.
That is why they say no to the existing laws being repealed and no to State financing being withdrawn from independent schools.
Sir Peter Vanneck (ED). — (EN) De har fortalt os, hvornår vi har lejlighed til at gøre indsigelse mod de tre emneområder, som gruppeformændene har udvalgt til drøftelse.
That is why we are very much on our guard, as we cannot forget what the French Socialist plan for education — the Mexandeau report — says. And I quote : 'School is both a forum for and a stake in the class struggle'.
Imidlertid vil jeg gerne vide, hvorfor man har besluttet ikke at sætte et meget aktuelt forslag fra mig om Hormuz-strædet på dags ordenen, medens Nicaragua — som ligger et ganske godt stykke væk — synes at være den fineste hane i kurven.
The Socialist Party would be better advised to take its inspiration from the French Radical Party, whose name is still bound up with the defence of lay education, but which has just pointed out that the first job of the State is to guarantee tolerance, neutrality and freedom.
Må jeg spørge, om det er muligt at få nogen oplysninger om, hvordan man nåede til den afgørelse, for selv om begge steder ligger milevidt borte, er det ene af dem dog af umådelig betydning for Fælles skabet?
The Radical Party, which is more attached than ever to the role and standards of state education, fully recognizes that private schools have the right to exist and that maintenance of them is an expression of the pluralism and diversity that are conditions of democracy. racy.
Formanden. — I overensstemmelse med artikel 48, stk. 2, i forretningsordenen er listen over emner til den aktuelle og uopsættelige debat, der finder sted den 16. marts 1984, blevet opstillet.
This is why, in voting massively for the Luster report, you will be demonstrating your support for European will and solidarity in this common fight for genuine freedom in education and teaching.
De må spørge Deres gruppeformand, hvorfor man på mødet traf den beslutning.
(The sitting was suspended at 1.05 p.m. and resumed at 3 p.m.)
Afstemningen om disse indsigelser finder sted uden forhandling kl. 15.
But it is important because it is painfully topical in France at the moment.
Haagerup (L). — (EN) Fru formand, der er absolut ikke min hensigt at anfægte det, der netop er blevet meddelt om de uopsættelige sager, men må jeg give udtryk for en let undren over den måde, hvorpå tingene somme tider tilrettelægges.
It is significant that the French Communist Party, through Mr Chambeiron, tried to prevent this report being discussed in the House again yesterday, as Mr Chambeiron himself has just reminded us.
Tilfældigvis er jeg for øjeblikket formand for det, vi kalder koordinatorgruppen her i Parlamentet.
Once again the Communist Party has shown its duplicity and its curious conception of freedom.
Lad det nu være: vi erkender, at de politiske ledere naturligvis kan bestemme, hvad de vil, og jeg agter ikke at
We in this House were right to vote massively in favour of the report being discussed today.
Baduel Glorioso (COM). — (IT) Fru formand, jeg har intet at indvende imod, at præsidiet træffer afgørelse om visse prioriteringer.
First, because in France — and this morning's papers bear this out — even if consultation, which we are in favour of, is required, nothing has been settled.
Jeg vil gerne anmode om, at min erklæring bliver ført til protokols, da Europas rolle tre måneder før valget forekommer mig at være helt klar: efter vor opfattelse er det mere vigtigt at beskæftige sig med de tekniske hindringer, der findes for gæstearbejdere !
And yes to : 'In accordance with the right to freedom of education, Member States shall be required to provide the financial means whereby this right can be exercised in practice and to make the necessary public grants to enable schools to carry out their tasks and fulfill their duties under the same conditions as in corresponding State establish
13.3.84 skridt med hensyn til fri udveksling af tjenesteydelser eller frie kapitalbevægelser for forsikringsselskaber og pengeinstitutter.
Tomorrow we want the Commission to tell us at the outset what its position is and we shall state our opinions in the light of that position alone and not of any agreements that we hear have been reached elsewhere.
Hvad angår landevejstransporten, er Kommissionen ligeledes ude af stand til nøjagtigt at beregne de årlige udgifter for de nationale økonomier som følge af begrænsningerne i friheden til at befordre varer ad landevejen mellem medlemsstaterne eller forbudet mod at tage gods med tilbage eller med på strækninger på ruten (cabotage) inden for landevejstransporten.
I know that tomorrow morning the President of the Commission or the Commissioner responsible intends to make a state ment to this House. Might I ask the President of this Parliament to ensure that when we have the state ment, it includes a categoric statement as to whether or not the Commission intends to revise its own proposals in conformity with the agreement at the level of the Council and that the President of the Council himself informs us in precise terms as to the nature of this agreement.
Den erkender imidlertid åbenlyst, at disse hindringer er en ret stor udgiftskilde, der må bæres af Fællesskabet som helhed.
It is not satisfactory to have to glean the fragments of an agreement from press releases, newspaper reports and listening to bad reception on the radio in the morning.
De fordele, som deres »forsvarere« opviser med stolthed, er snarere hypotetiske end bevist.
That is an unsatisfactory way for this House to be informed about events.
Lord O'Hagan (ED). — (EN) Fru formand, jeg er forfærdet over hr. Haagerups beskedenhed.
(The President read out the list of subjects) '
Må jeg spørge Dem, om det er i overensstemmelse med forretningsordenen, hvis koordinatorerne for de forskellige grupper i det politiske udvalg omsætter den aftale, de nåede til i koordinatorgruppen, i form af et ændringsforslag til forslagene?
Pursuant to Rule 48 (2), second subparagraph, of the Rules of Procedure, any objections to this list, which must be justified in writing and submitted by a political group or at least 21 Members, should be tabled before 3 p.m. tomorrow. The vote on these objections will be taken without debate at 3 p.m.
Som den første formand i denne koordinatorgruppe mener jeg, at vi her i huset, inden vi begynder at belære andre institu tioner om, hvordan de bør behandle os, skulle tilrettelægge vort arbejde bedre.
Therefore, Madam President, would you please ensure that we are in particular given a clear statement as to what the legal position is, because I wish to reserve the right, in the light of that statement, to call my committee together in order to decide whether we wish to take into consideration the new situation.
Jeg vil derfor foreslå, at De afgiver en udtalelse om, hvorvidt det er antageligt, at koordinatorerne fra de forskellige grupper stiller ændringsforslag om at omgøre det, som vore højt ansete — men undertiden ikke helt perfekte — gruppeformænd besluttede, da de holdt møde?
We wish to know what the Commission intends to do in precise terms so that we can discharge our function in precise terms, and hopefully clear the way for the summit meeting which we all recognize is extremely important and which takes place in less than a week from
Der er gjort så få fremskridt, at man virkelig tvivler på medlemsstaternes gode vilje.
I know that there are representatives of the Commission here who have heard what you have said and who will pass on your message to the President.
Men vil Kommissionen foretage et rimeligt skøn over udgifterne for de pågældende medlemsstater.
Nevertheless, your request has been taken note of and will be passed on to the relevant authorities.
Formanden. — Lord O'Hagan, det vil ikke være nødvendigt for koordinatorerne at fremsætte noget som helst, for vi har muligheden for via vore gruppe formænd — og jeg er sikker på, at De vil henvende Dem til Deres i denne sag — eller 21 medlemmer af forsamlingen at stille ethvert tænkeligt ændringsforslag til den liste, jeg læste op.
Mr Haagerup (L). — Madam President, I have no intention whatsoever of challenging what has just been announced about the urgencies, but may I just express some mild puzzlement over the way matters are sometimes organized. I happen at the moment to be chairman of what we call the coordinators group in this Parliament.
Jeg overlader det til forsamlingen og til gruppeformændenes bedste overbevisning at handle i overensstemmelse hermed.
At the very same time that the political masters of our groups decided what was going on, we were discussing how best to advise them as to what we should do with the various urgency motions.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er spørgetid (dok. 1-1/84): spørgsmål til Kommissionen.
President. — Mr Haagerup, I fully appreciate the point you have madernamely, that the chairmen of the political groups happened to be meeting at the
Jeg er ikke i stand til at gribe tallene ud af luften, for retrospektivt kan de vise sig at være forkerte.
Tomorrow we shall be beginning one of the essential debates of the year for Parliament and the farmers.
Formanden. — Vil De stille Deres tillægsspørgsmål samtidig, så De kan få et svar?
We want our Parliament to make clear commitments.
Purvis (ED). — (EN) Ja, måske til den kompetente kommissær.
That is to say we want to decide in the light of the
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See Minutes.
Kommissionen forelagde allerede for 2 Vi år siden ovennævnte forslag til forordning for Rådet, men der er endnu ikke konstateret noget væsentligt fremskridt med hensyn til behandling og vedtagelse heraf.
You have the opportunity at 3 o'clock tomorrow to object to the proposals made by the chairmen of the political groups and put back on to the agenda, with the agreement of this House, any motions for resolutions which have been tabled.
Det drejer sig ikke kun om tjenesteydelser.
Lord O'Hagan (ED). — Madam President, I am horrified at Mr Haagerup's modesty.
Vil vil gerne kende omkostningerne for Fællesskabet ved systemet med eneforhandlere, der krænker de i traktaten nedfældede regler om retfærdig konkurrence.
Could I ask you whether it would be in order for the coordinators for the different groups in the Political Affairs Committee to table the agreement reached in the coordinators' committee as an amendment to the proposals ?
Vi kender til det i forbindelse med motorkøretøjer, men også alle andre slags sektorer — landbrug, lægemidler og alle de øvrige.
As the first chairman of this coordinating committee, I think that we in this House, before we start lecturing other institutions about how they should treat us, should organize our business better.
Kan Kommissionen -— måske ikke lige i dag — foretage en vurdering af udgifterne for den enkelte og for medlemsstaterne som følge af alle disse krænkelser af Rom-traktaten, der nu er foregået i næsten 30 år, og som bør bringes til ophør hurtigst muligt?
I would therefore suggest that you give a ruling as to whether it would be in order for the coordinators of the different groups to table an amendment to overrule what our very respected — though sometimes not wholly perfect — group chairmen laid down in advance while they were meeting.
Der er set stort behov for vedtagelse af dette forslag til forordning, især nu hvor UNCTAD-kodeksen om linjekonferencer og forordning nr. 954/79 er trådt i kraft.
Sir Peter Vanneck (ED). — You have told us when we shall have the opportunity to object to the three items which have been chosen for discussion by the chairmen of the political groups.
Kan Kommissionen oplyse os om grundene til denne forsinkelse på 2Vi år i vedtagelsen af den foreslåede forordning, og om, hvorvidt Rådet er gået i gang med at behandle teksten?
President. — Lord O'Hagan, it will not be necessary for the coordinators to table anything, because we have the opportunity, through the chairman of our political groups — and I am sure you will be approaching yours on this matter — or 21 Members of this House, to put down any amendment to the list which I have read out.
Hvor langt er man i givet fald nået i proceduren, og kan man forudse, hvornår teksten vil blive vedtaget?
I leave it to the House and to the good sense of the political group chairmen to act accordingly.
Om: Forordning vedrørende konkurrencen inden for søtransport
President. — The next item on the agenda is Ques tion Time (Doc.
Purvis (ED). — (EN) Kommissæren sagde, at dette spørgsmål var rettet til hr. Tugendhat.
President. — I am sorry, Sir Peter Vanneck, I cannot answer that question.
Det er helt åbenlyst et spørgsmål om det interne marked og konkurrencepolitikken.
You have to ask the chairman of your political group why this decision was taken at that meeting.
Jeg var ikke klar over, at hr. Tugendhat havde overtaget dette sagsområde, men hvis det er tilfældet, kunne vi så blivet underrettet herom?
But, at I said already in reply to Mr Haagerup, you have an opportunity to object to the way this list was drawn up and to insist on the subject which you have tabled being debated, provided it is done on behalf of the group or with the support of 21 Members of this House and is adopted by the majority of the House tomorrow at 3 o'clock.
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Question No 1, by Mr Prag (H-663/83) :
Der er stillet en række ændringsforslag under drøftelserne.
Subject : Failure to apply EEC Treaty provisions — cost to UK
Kommissionen har vist sig rede til at overveje en række af disse ændringsforslag, såfremt de ikke i væsentlig grad berører forordningsforslaget.
Has the Commission calculated the current annual cost to the United Kingdom or any other Member States of the failure to achieve :
Richard. — (EN) Det, der rent faktisk bedes om i spørgsmålet, selv om vi har bevæget os langt fra det, er en beregning af de nuværende årlige omkostninger for Det forenede Kongerige og de øvrige medlems stater som følge af, at visse mål, som Kommissionen har sat sig, ikke er blevet opnået.
I only want it to be emphasized and included in the Minutes that no priority is attached to the fight against the racism that is developing afresh in Europe, and against the xenophobic demonstrations against foreign workers from the Third World, on which three reports have been presented — one Ceravolo report, which is Document 1-1557/83, one Krouwel-Vlam report on behalf of the Socialist Group, which is Document 1-1573/83, and one Bonaccini report, which is Document 1-1574/83.
Hvis noget i særlig grad er en sag for den kommissær, der beskæftiger sig med nogle af disse sager over for Rådet, og som er ansvarlig for denne slags beregninger, hvis de er mulige at lave, er det utvivlsomt dette spørgsmål.
I shall be grateful if you will include my statement in the Minutes of today's debates because, with our elections only three months off, Europe's role in the world seems clear to me now : for us, technical obstacles are more important than foreign workers !
Det er klart, at Kommissionen beklager meget, at der hidtil ikke er gjort fremskridt med denne vigtige sag, især da De forenede Nationers adfærdskodeks for linjekonferencer i mellemtiden er trådt i kraft.
President. — Mrs Baduel Glorioso, your remarks will be included in the report of today's debates.
Formanden. — Da de følgende spørgsmål vedrører samme emne, vil vi under ét behandle spørgsmål nr. 2 af Gerokostopoulos (H-636/83):
Mr Richard, Member of the Commission. — The Commission refers to its reply to the honourable Member's Written Question No 1711/83.
Om: Forslag til forordning (EØF) om fastsættelse af retningslinjer for anvendelse af traktatens
As I have already stated it is up to this House to decide at 3 o'clock tomorrow which subjects are to be debated.
Dette skete sidste gang på Transportministerrådets samling i december 1983.
Richard agriculture, pharmaceuticals and all the rest of them.
Endnu for ganske nylig har vi på ny overvejet, hvorledes vi vil kunne forsøge at sætte gang i denne drøftelse, men for øjeblikket har jeg til min beklagelse ikke yderligere konkrete positive meddelelser. elser.
Could the Commission perhaps, if not today, prepare an assessment of the cost to the individual and to the Member States of all these infringements of the Treaty of Rome that have carried on now for nearly 30 years and should be put an end to at the earliest possible moment ?
Jeg spørger Dem: Hvorledes er det alt sammen sket, hvad har De foretaget Dem, hvilke kompromisforslag har De eventuelt forelagt, og hvem hindrer Dem i at nå frem til en løsning?
It readily admits, however, that such hindrances are a major source of cost which has to be borne by the Community as a whole.
Henvisningen til nogle medlemsstater er ikke tilstrækkelig for mig.
The virtues of which their advocates boast are hypothetical rather than proven.
Gerokostopoulos (PPE). — (GR) Jeg takker kommissæren for en omfattende og detaljeret vurdering af et spørgsmål, som det bliver så meget vanskeligere at løse på grund af krinkelkrogene i Rådets bureaukrati.
Mr Richard. — I am afraid that Mr Purvis will have to put up with me yet again. The reason why I am answering it is very simple : it is that the appropriate Commissioner to whom, I think, the question was addressed was Mr Tugendhat.
Kommissæren nævnte, at Kommissionen ikke har mulighed for at øve indflydelse på de sagers gang, som er forelagt Rådet, og forsikrede os om, at han netop i december havde forsøgt at fremskynde en løsning på spørgsmålet.
Mr Prag (ED). — I am not really convinced that in that reply the Commission has shown that it is fully aware of the discontent in certain Member States with the failure by other Member States to allow genuine freedom to supply services in these fields of insurance, banking and transport.
For det andet håber jeg, at kommissæren har læst det svar, jeg fik fra formanden for Rådet under den sidste mødeperiode, og som jeg overhovedet ikke var tilfreds med, da det var udvigende.
As for making the sort of estimate that Mr Purvis wants me to make, I am afraid I can only give him the answer that I gave to Mr Prag : the Commission is not prepared to guess in these very difficult areas, particularly now that Mr Purvis wants my guesses to go back over 30 years.
Andriessen. — (NL) Jeg har berørt visse problemer, de væsentligste i kontakten til Rådet.
Mr Richard. — I am a little surprised to hear from Mr Prag that we are not now asked to make a calculation, when the question starts off, 'Has the Commission calculated ...?'.
Der er her et bredt område for juridisk fortolkning og kontrol, som vi for øjeblikket drøfter med Rådet.
What I am not prepared to do is to guess in the air and give figures to this House, which might in retrospect turn out to be fallacious.