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Dette er noget, Kommissionen i ugevis be standigt har ladet sive ud, som om Parlamentet ikke
Yesterday we were told 'Mr Dalsager isn't there today ; he will be here tomorrow' i.e. today.
Scrivener (L). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, Parlamentet forsøger at få en klar oversigt over situationen, der for at sige det mildt er kompliceret.
that is enough and that we should proceed. After all, as long as Mr Thorn is here, he can presumably, with the assistance of three other Commissioners, tell us what we need to know.
Hvad skyldes dette?
All I am asking is that we keep to the decisions we have taken.
Så er al uro forståelig med hensyn til et meget ømtåleligt spørgsmål, som vedrører Kommissionens prognoser.
As a Member of this Parliament, I am not pleased with the situation either, but we should nevertheless turn to the main subject in hand and bear in mind the following points :
Det er de spørgsmål, jeg gerne vil have et ordentligt svar på.
Mr Provan (ED). — Mr President, I have two points of order.
Og hvordan det end forholder sig, så kan Fælleskabet ikke længere unddrage sig en forhandling om reform af den fælles landbrugspolitik.
Otherwise I shall have no alternative but to ask you, as President of Parliament, to refer my resolution to the Committee on Budgetary Control and to the fisheries working group under Rule 47.
Alle de nuværende vanskeligheder er et bevis derpå, og ved at tøve for længe risikerer vi ganske enkelt at skade Europas fremtid, hvis den ikke allerede er blevet alvorligt skadet.
I would also ask that, if we do not have a satisfactory solution to this problem by the end of the year, it be referred to the Court of Auditors.
Formanden. — Hr. Langes, jeg vil bede Dem forstå, at det er vanskeligt at føre forsædet i øjeblikket under dette temmelig ophidsede møde.
We have heard a statement by the Commissioner with responsibility for finance, Mr Tugendhat. This was followed by half an hour during which questions could be put.
Når de ansvarlige for grupperne påtager sig at besvare indlæg til forretningsordenen, er formandens position tvetydig.
However, it did not prove possible to fit everyone in during this half hour and the Bureau stated that it would be possible to hold an hour's debate, which was originally scheduled for yesterday before the vote.
Jeg vil blot minde formanden om, at vi ikke ønsker at se en gentagelse af gårsdagens forvirring i dette parlament med hensyn til talere osv. De skal ikke kun se på den forreste række; der sidder også nogen bagved.
Regarding the matter under discussion at the present time — the debate on the Commission's statement of yesterday — I would ask you to adjourn the House until a satisfactory arrangement is arrived at between the Commission and yourself, so that the debate agreed by the Bureau can go ahead.
Provan (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, det glæder mig at få lejlighed til at deltage i debatten om dette emne.
Mr Davignon, Member of the Commission. — (FR) Yes, Mr President, the point of order just raised refers, I believe, to the question of fisheries inspectors.
Vi har her i Europa et godt klima og god jord og vi er et af verdens spisekamre.
Those Members who had put their names down will surely want to speak today too.
Imidlertid vil tilpasningen af den fælles landbrugspolitik tage et stykke tid, og det er meget vigtigt, at de ti medlems stater ved opbygningen af Europa står sammen.
If this is indeed the case — he is sitting here and can say yes or no — it would be nice if he would make his statement at the beginning of the debate so that we would then be able to discuss two statements, i.e. by Mr Tugendhat and by Mr Thorn. At any rate, we should get on with it without more ado.
Land brugsudvalget blev først informeret om situationen, da det allerede var sivet ud til pressen 24 timer før. Hvis en af vorke funktioner er at kontrollere budgettet, må vi i det mindste informeres om de dårlige nyheder.
The question asked was whether the funds set aside in the budget for the recruitment of fisheries inspectors have been used for other purposes, or whether they are still avail able for the recruitment of fisheries inspectors.
Alt for ofte får vi fra dette Parlament ikke lov til at bringe de gode nyheder.
The answer is that the money is still available for the recruitment of fisheries inspectors.
Imidlertid vil budgetmæssige begrænsninger få den virkning, at vi må indføre reformer meget hurtigere, end vi havde regnet med. Vi har nu mistet mulig heden for at tilpasse den fælles landbrugspolitik ved hjælp af rene landbrugspolitiske foranstaltninger, og derfor må vi nu ty til budgetmæssige foranstaltninger.
President. — Ladies and gentlemen, I think we are now all in agreement ; we are, as announced yesterday, going to debate for one hour the statement made by Mr Tugendhat.
Med det som udgangspunkt, hr. formand, mener jeg, at det er vigtigt, at vi anmoder Kommissionen om at forvisse sig om, at den vil genindføre eksportrestitutioner så hurtigt som muligt, således at der kan genetableres normale handelsmønstre, og således at andre ikke overtager de verdensmarkeder, som vi allerede er inde på.
Seven inspectors have already been recruited and the other six will have been by the end of the year, using the money which remains available. I regret that I cannot see how the Commission failed to answer the honourable Member.
I denne uge, mener jeg, at der allerede er sket ubodelig skade for vores eksportmarkeder.
Mr Curry (ED), chairman of the Committe on Agriculture.— Mr President, there is a very serious problem indeed.
Det skyldes Kommissionens totalt manglende evne til samlet at sætte europæiske interesser højest.
The first point I would make is that this whole situation is a perfect illustration of what has gone wrong the whole of this week.
Kommissionen' har til stadighed manglet evnen til at modstå amerikansk fremtrængen på markedet. Nu trøster de os med eksportrestitutioner.
The confusion on the Commission benches is unbelievable, and I am forced to the conclusion that the Commissioners do not talk to each other !
Det er især de mindre eksportører, som vil blive hårdt ramt.
It was decided that we would have it now in order to have Mr Dalsager.
I de sidste tre eller fire år har tendensen været stadig lavere indtægter.
That is quite clear in my mind.
Derfor udtrykker palamentarikerne nu foruroligelse over dårlig ledelse — vil det fortsætte til slutningen af året?
President. — I therefore propose that the debate should begin.
Eller er der bare endnu en gang tale om en sjusket måde at få ordningen fuldstændig ophævet på eller i hvert fald skåret ned 50 % ifølge »uofficielle« kilder inden for Kommissionen — rent faktisk højt placerede tjenestemænd?
Mr de la Malène (DEP). — (FR) I should be obliged if persons would abstain from trying thus to ridicule the positions adopted by the Bureau and by the House.
Derfor kan jeg kun tilslutte mig det, som min ærede kollega Langes sagde. Der må da foreligge en strategi.
Secondly, Mr President, you yourself do not have to seek a solution.
De forsøger helt tydeligt, før der er truffet en afgørelse i Athen, at skabe fuldbyrdede kendsgerninger, ved gennem sådanne foranstalt ninger, som jeg netop har skildret, at underminere betingelserne for, at dette marked kan fungere.
The House expresses its wish to debate, and you as President are the servant of the House which has a very great respect for you.
Det er mit oprigtige ønske, at repræsentanterne for Kommissionen udnytter deres chance her i Parlamentet og erklærer, at der efter disse ti dage ikke sker noget uventet, men at man vil vende tilbage til de gamle regler for markedsordningen. ningen.
But please forget your lists here and your lists there and observe the will of this House, which is to debate and not to have a recital of questions.
Og endnu engang vil jeg bede ham om, her i Parlamentet i dag, at forsikre Fællesskabet om, at de vil blive ophævet, og resitutionerne vil blive udbetalt.
We delayed the debate until this afternoon for the simple reason that Mr Dalsager could not be here earlier, and we had been told that he would be happy to come and address us.
Adamou (COM). — (GR) Hr. formand, Kommissionens beslutning om at suspendere betalingen af forskud på restitutioner ved eksport inden for land brugssektoren i ti dage og muligvis for et endnu længere tidsrum berører direkte en million landbrugere i Fællesskabets sydlige egne, især de græske bønder.
Mr Thorn, President of the Commission. — (FR) Mr President might I through the Chair respectfully request the honourable Members of this House to — how shall I put it ? — establish their position a little more precisely ?
Det har alle rede fremkaldt bestyrtelse hos de græske bomuldsdyrkere, at de kun får udbetalt 80 % af støttebeløbet med et løfte om, at den resterende del betales senere. Også de 25 000 vinbønder i Ättika, som jeg besøgte for nylig, var bestyrtede over, at der i stedet for garantiprisen blev bekendtgjort en orienteringspris på 14,40 drachmer pr. kg druer for vin med 12 % alkoholindhold, mens deres omkostninger overskrider 18 drachmer pr. kg.
Personally, I received the impression listening a few moments ago that there was a degree of confusion amongst members of the House, too.
Bocklet (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, Kommissionen påstår, at det, den har foretaget sig, er sket inden for rammerne af markedsordningerne og traktaterne.
We agreed to hold a brief debate on Mr Tugendhat's statement, Mr President : that was yesterday's debate, and it is over. For today we decided — at the suggestion of the Commission's spokesman, I would remind you — to let Mr Dalsager speak and then to react.
Jeg vil tværtimod hævde, at det grænser til lovbrud.
We are not continuing yesterday's debate : let us not get things muddled.
Jeg vil gerne henvise til følgende kendsgerning: Kommissionen har i overens stemmelse med reglerne for markedsordningen udskudt forudbetalingerne af restitutionerne i ti dage.
At the request of the Commission — at the request of the Commission, I say, we are to hear the Member of the Commission responsible for the matter and then debate. Let us not turn things around.
Det er dens gode ret, og det er der ingen, der vil bebrejde den.
That is the problem. I think it very important to make that clear.
Men så har den gjort noget, som undergraver tilliden til, at den handler retmæssigt.
Having said that, Mr Tugendhat did indeed at our request — no-one in this distinguished house can be unaware that we are a collegiate body — read a state ment which was therefore read in the name of the Commission.
Den har nemlig forklaret, at den i løbet af de ti dage ville undersøge, hvad der så skal ske.
The House decided to debate that state ment ; Mr Tugendhat informed me of the burden of that debate and advised me that it would be continued today.
Dermed har den bragt et usikkerhedsmoment ind i billedet, som i vid udstrækning påvirker tilliden til, at den handler retmæssigt i overensstemmelse med de retlige regler.
For reasons which you will understand perfectly, Mr Tugendhat considered that it would be worthwhile spending a few hours at the annual confer ence of his own party, and that is why he is at this moment at the British Conservative party conference.
Følgen deraf er, at ingen længere indgår aftaler, eftersom man ikke ved, hvad der sker efter de ti dage. Denne sætning, som står i erklæringen, er absolut overflødig.
We have heard a statement by the Commission — the Commission was prepared to discuss with us.
Men da den nu engang er med — jeg antager, at Kommissionen har villet sig noget med den — kan jeg kun gå ud fra, at Kommissionen har haft til hensigt at udøve en
If the President of the Commission is present now, so much the better, since he will be able to state his views after hearing the points we have to make. We should, however, start behaving like mature adults.
Hr. formand, det er en kendt sag, at den fælles land brugspolitik skader de græske landbrugere i høj grad.
President. — Mr Dalsager has just arrived, and I shall therefore ask whether he prefers to speak now or after the debate.
700 000 t frugt og grønsager er blevet destrueret, og Grækenland handelsbalance over for EØF fremviser for landbrugssektoren i de tre år, Grækenland har været medlem, et underskud på ca. 50 mia drachmer.
Mr Thorn, President of the Commission. — (FR) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I realize that your agenda is very full ; if we are all here it is not to avoid a debate.
Nu indstilles til al overflod også den i forvejen meget ringe støtte, der hidtil er blevet ydet. Vi anser Kommissionens landbrugsfjendtlige beslutning for en skandale.
Yesterday you heard the statement made by Mr Tugendhat on behalf of the Commission, and you debated it.
Den giver monopolerne milliarder, men forfalder til den simple løsning at berøve millioner af fattige landbrugere deres eksistens.
Mr Dalsager, Member of the Commission. — Mr President, I would prefer to wait until after the debate, to hear what the questions are.
Vi protesterer på vegne af tre millioner græske land brugere og kræver, at denne beslutning ophæves, og at de nødvendige midler tilvejebringes fra andre sektorer.
Thorn whether all compulsory expenditure would be honoured, and Mr Herman's wise and timely question forced him to agree that this was no less than respect for the Treaty of Rome would require.
Delatte (L). — (FR) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, jeg vil ikke give det indtryk, at jeg viser mangel på høflighed over for Kommissionen, men jeg konstaterer, at den manglende konsekvens i de rede gørelser, der successivt er blevet fremlagt af den ved udenrigs- og landbrugsministrenes møde i Athen om Fællesskabets økonomiske situation, har skabt uro i sindene.
What all this proves, Mr Jackson, is that although policy must be written into the budget — and there you are quite right — the budget must by the same token be drafted with an eye to the policy objectives which have been set, and you would be wrong to reject that rider to the first part of your analysis.
Beslutningen om at suspendere forskud på restitutionerne for visse produkter, som blev taget natten mellem tirsdag og onsdag, har i rigt mål forøget denne uro.
My information — and I have checked it — is that Mr de la Malène is not strictly right in saying that the Commission agreed that Mr Dalsager would make a statement.
Hvorfor har man ikke været i stand til at give et bedre varsel med de beslutninger, man har truffet?
Would it not be better, Mr President, if we proceeded with the debate ?
Hvorfor har man ikke kunnet lægge tallene frem noget før og lægge op til Ministerrådet at træffe en beslutning?
President. — I quite agree, Mr Thorn, I call Mr Sutra to open the debate.
Hvorfor har man netop skullet tage land mændene ud som gidsler og ikke lægge op til Ministerrådet at træffe beslutning om, hvad det var for nogle udgifter, der skulle standses, såfremt penge kassen måtte gå hen og løbe tom?
Mr Sutra (S). — (FR) Mr President, rarely in all my political experience have I seen such a yawning gap between a statement and its underlying reality as in that made yesterday by Mr Tugendhat on behalf of the Commission.
Hvorfor har Kommissionen optrådt på den måde, at det er de landmænd, som har et klart retskrav på at få udbetalt midler, som måske skal være gidsler?
In conclusion, a thought on the common agricultural policy, which is the origin of this debate.
Når folk løber tør for penge, er det som regel sådan, at de faste udgifter bliver man nødt til at betale, og så må man skære lidt ned på luksus.
I have always believed that there can be no guarantees without discipline, and that, at the same time, no discipline can be expected without some guarantees.
Man må skære lidt ned på de udgifter, der kan vente til næste måned, men faste udgifter som husleje må man betale.
Those who advocate free trade in production and protectionism in marketing are giving a recipe for budgetary dynamite.
Landbrugsudgifterne er faste udgifter.
Imposing discipline on production without giving any protection in marketing is, on the other hand, social dynamite.
Der er modtagere, som har retskrav på at få pengene udbetalt.
Here in Europe we must have neither the Chicago stock exchange, not the Soviet gas plan.
Hvorfor kommer Kommissionen så ikke med forslag om at skære ned på de udgifter, hvor der ikke foreligger noget retskrav, udgifter som er politisk fastsat, men hvor der ikke er forordninger, hvorefter de skal udbetales?
Our society is becoming increasingly dependent on give and take both within our own Community and in our relations with the ACP States.
Hvorfor holder man ikke igen på den slags udgifter? Det forekommer mig at være en meget ubehagelig politisk gidseltagning, som vi er vidner til.
That is what makes Europe different, and it may be this planet's only hope for peace.
Hr. Tugendhat er kommet for at bekræfte over for vor forsamling, at der er ressourcer nok, førend man tager hul på tillægsbudgettet.
Very briefly, I should like to consider first what he actually said, then the words he used to say it, and finally — perhaps most significantly — what he omitted to say.
Han tilføjede, at tillægsbudgettet måske ikke ville være nok til at dække de samlede udgifter indtil årets udløb.
What the Commissioner actually said was that the Commission has decided ' ... to suspend, for the next 10 days, the payment of advances on restitutions and on certain premiums ...'.
Når vi kigger på indkomstudviklingen hos landmændene, ser vi, at den gennemsnitlige danske landmand i 1982 — det hidtil bedste år i EF — tjente 84 % af, hvad han tjente det år, da han drømte om de høje priser i EF.
I assume that he was including the various statements made by the Commission under this heading, such as Mr Dalsagers' statement in Athens, the points made by the President of the Commission and, finally, what we were told yesterday.
Jeg synes, at det er meget ubehageligt, at det netop er land brugsudgifterne, en lovbunden udgift, man nu tager fat i, og at man ikke i god tid har lagt op til Minister rådet at træffe eventuelle andre beslutninger.
In passing, I would point out that for farmers the wait has always greatly exceeded 10 days anyway, and that if operators have never had to wait more than 10 days, they have been a lot better treated than the farmers.
I betragtning af beslutningens alvorlige karakter vil jeg gerne spørge Kommissionens formand: Hvem af Kommissionens medlemmer har stemt for denne beslutning?
If that was all that was involved, however — and I shall come back in a minute to what was left unsaid — then why all the stage-setting, and all the talk of catastrophe ?
Og jeg vil specielt gerne spørge, om hr. Dalsager har stemt for den pågældende beslutning.
It would have been more appropriate had we been meeting in Strasbourg cathedral, with Mr Tugendhat up in the organ-loft.
Erfaringen viser os, at man ikke på forhånd helt præcist kan fastslå de udgifter, der skal afsættes til Landbrugsfondens garantisektor, og det ville have været fornuftigt, hvis budgettet måske ikke er tilstrækkeligt, at vente til slutningen af året med at tage en beslutning om at udsætte restitutionsbetalingerne.
The session formally suspended, called, and put back, preceded by meetings described as 'secret' with 50 journalists waiting at the door, little phrases let drop at Athens by other members of the Commission or by Ministers : why all this, if not to build up an atmosphere of panic ?
Hvorfor tage den beslutning i dag, som vil forstyrre markederne til skade for eksportørerne og landmændene?
They haven't bothered with the details in my country : the headlines are saying 'Common market bankrupt : no further payments'.
Jeg henleder Kommissionens opmærksomhed på, hvad forhandlingen drejer sig om. Tilpasningen af den fælles landbrugspolitik kan kun undersøges i sin helhed, ikke blot inden for rammerne af budgettet.
When I consider our debates on the budgetary situation in the Committee on Budgets over the last few weeks, I must agree that, as Mr Tugendhat stated yesterday, financing would be possible by November.
Det er klart, at for at være effektiv, så må denne forhandling foregå i al åbenhed, og jeg beklager dybt dette vildledende klima, som Kommissionen har skabt, og som uden tvivl risikerer at skade Det europæiske Fællesskabs fremtid.
Thus, as we have seen, the Commission has fundamentally contradicted itself over the last days and weeks and has, furthermore, failed to keep the public and this Parliament clearly informed. I should therefore like to make four points on behalf of the Group of the European People's Party.
Maher (L). — (EN) Hr. formand, der er flere spørgsmål involveret her.
Panic has not been the only effect of this mismanagement.
Et af spørgsmålene, som jeg gerne vil nævne her i begyndelsen, er forholdet mellem Parlamentet og Kommissionen.
You are going to have to extend your ten days by a further ten days, since you announced it three days before you took the decision.
Dette er ikke tilfældet med hensyn til Rådet.
All the operators moved fast.
Her i Parlamentet prøver vi — det lykkes os selvfølgelig ikke altid — at træffe europæiske beslutninger og finde europæiske løsninger, og det mener jeg også, må jeg retfærdigvis sige, at Kommissionen gør.
Secondly we also realize that the common agricultural policy needs rethinking and a large majority of this Parliament has made a whole range of proposals to this effect.
Bonde (CDI). — Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne stille nogle spørgsmål til Kommissionen:
Now, Mr Tugendhat gave an excellent reply to the excellent question put by Mr Pranchère. namely
De er meget usikre med hensyn til fremtiden.
We must face the fact that the common agricultural policy has been a success.
Som De udmærket ved, er tilliden i et samfund, hvor den frie konkurrence hersker, af afgørende betydning.
We in Europe have a good climate and good soils and we are one of the breadbaskets of the world.
Deres handlinger har ført til en vis usikkerhed. Jeg siger ikke, at der ikke kan rådes bod herpå, jeg ønsker ikke at overdrive. Vi kan få situationen under kontrol.
Adaptation of the common agricultural policy, however, will take time and it is very important that the 10 Member States, in building Europe, must move together in accord.
Efter min mening skaber det en dårlig atmosfære; det forstyrrer forholdet mellem os, og det mener jeg ikke, bør ske.
Budgetary constraints, however, are now going to make us reform very much faster than we realized.
Er det virkelig rigtigt? Hvis det er, hvilke foranstaltninger er der så tale om? Vil de forklare os dem?
Thirdly, the Group of the European People's Party (Christian-Democratic Group) is not prepared to accept these theatricals from Mr Tugendhat.
Mit sidste spørgsmål er meget enkelt. Det er blevet sagt, at betalingerne til fåreavlere ikke vil blive genoptaget før efter jul.
I recently — in fact this morning — spoke to some Australian visitors to this Parliament and they are extremely worried about the morality of inefficient production.
Edward Kellett-Bowman (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, det er i eftermiddag, at vi skal have nogle svar fra Kommissionen, fordi der her i dag kun mangler en kommissær i, at der er et beslutningsdygtigt flertal. Jeg er ikke helt sikker på, hvem der skal kritisere hvem.
Fourthly, all this must nevertheless be seen in the context of the impression given today, for example, in an article by a highly competent journalist in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung which states that this Parliament is blocking funds for the agricultural budget.
Det andet punkt, som igen drejer sig om forholdet mellem Kommissionen og Parlamentet, er, at vi for et par uger siden var foruroliget over et meget vanskeligt problem, nemlig smørlagrene. Vi ved alle sammen, at de er meget store.
Mrs Scrivener (L). — (FR) Mr President, the House is seeking to understand a situation which is, to put it mildly, complicated.
Men der var et forslag fremme, ikke lige netop landbrugsudvalget, men mærkeligt nok fra budgetudvalget om at reducere disse lagre til fordel for de mennesker, som bor inden for Fællesskabet, og ikke russerne.
Under the circumstances it is reasonable for Parliament to doubt the sincerity of the Commission's decision, given the theatrical effects produced by Mr Tugendhat's statement yesterday, and its quite exceptional nature.
Dette forslag blev fremsat.
What is the reason for this ?