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Christodoulou (PPE), hovedordfører. - (GR) Hr. for mand, tidligt i morges afsluttedes sombekendt for handlingerne med Ministerrådet i overværelse af Kommissionen.
Mr Christodoulou (PPE), general rapporteur. — (GR) Mr President, early this morning, as the House will have learned, the negotiations with the Council of Ministers were concluded, with the Commission of the European Communities present.
Som resultat af de forhandlinger og drøftelser, som har fundet sted i de seneste dage, lig ger der foran os et eneste ændringsforslag, som viser den enighed, der blev opnået mellem Ministerrådet, budgetudvalget og den særligt udvalgte forhandlingsgruppe.
As the fruit of these negotiations and the discussions which took place in the days previous we have before us a single amend ment which sets out the agreement which the Com mittee on Budgets and its special negotiating team have reached with the Council of Ministers.
Enigheden indeholder følgende hovedelementer: det føjer til Rådets beslutning af 8. juli 1986 211044 680 ECU i forpligtelsesbevillinger og 89 686 180 ECU i betalingsbevillinger, beløb som analyseres i det medfølgende bilag.
The main components of the agreement are as follows: It adds a further 211 044 680 ECU in commitment appropriations and a further 89 686 180 ECU in payment
Pitt (S). — (EN) Til forretningsordenen, fru formand.
Mr Pitt (S). — On a point of order, Madam President.
Må jeg bede om Deres råd med hansyn til afstemningen i eftermiddag.
May I ask your advice regarding the voting this afternoon.
Den måde, hvorpå dokument C262/1/86 af hr. Christodoulou er blevet forelagt, betyder, at medlemmerne ikke har haft mulighed for at stille ændringsforslag.
The way in which Document C 2-62/1/86
Problemet er, at man med større eller mindre sikkerhed kan forvente, at der vil blive krævet særskilt afstemning om visse dele af det te dokument.
Christodoulou adopting it the new maximum percentage increase will emerge, the President-in-Office will be called on to certify that he concurs with this percentage which he himself has formulated, and thus the 1986 budget pro cedure will terminate in accordance with the directions handed down by the European Court.
Jeg vil ikke anmode om afstemning ved navn om hvert punkt, hvis det skulle ske.
appropriations to the Council decision of 8 July, 1986, and a breakdown of these amounts is given in the annex to the amendment.
Men jeg vil gerne have afstemning ved navn om hr. Christodoulous dokument i sin helhed. Kan De give mig garanti for, at en sådan afstemning om dokumentet i sin hel hed vil finde sted, eller vil De gribe dokumentet an på en sådan måde, at en række afstemningen om punkter vil blive betragtet som værende afstemningen om dokumentet? Hvis det sidste er tilfældet, må jeg i frokostpausen overveje mit problem med ikke at ville genere forsamlingen ved at bede Dem foretage afstemning ved navn om hvert enkelt punkt, hvilket ville spilde megen tid..
This means that with the exception of those cases where it has been shown that implementation by the Commission would be difficult, such as, more specifically, the payment appropriations in the area of transport infrastructural projects, all the amendments which were adopted at the second read ing in December, 1985, have been reinstated.
I dette ændringsforslag ser vi, at af alle disponible egne indtægter opbruges dem, der kommer fra moms loftet, der øgedes til 1,4% den 1. januar i år.
From this amendment we can see that all the available own resources arising from the VAT ceiling which was increased to 1.4% only on 1 January this year are used up.
Desuden tages der hensyn til Kommissionens erklæring om, at de justeringer, der blev foretaget vedrørende struktur fondene såvel af forpligtelsesbevillinger som af betalingsbevillinger, ikke vil forstyrre disses harmoniske funktion, og overførslen af bevillinger, som foreslås til landbrugsfondens garantisektion, vil ikke på nogen måde skade de procedurer, der angår personer eller private organisationer.
Additionally, account is taken of the assertion by the Commission that the readjustments which have been made to the Funds, in respect of both the com mitment and the payment appropriations, will not adversely affect their operation, and that the transfers of appropriations which are being proposed for the Guarantee Section of the Agricultural Fund will in no way damage the procedure regarding individuals or private organizations.
Formanden. — Hr. Pitt, De sætter mig i en lidt van skelig situation.
... an action which enabled the Community to get along normally up to the present time.
Det er ikke mig, som har forsædet kl. 15, og jeg har ikke tilstrækkelig mange oplysninger til at svare Dem.
I also want to stress, Mr President, that the procedure imposed on us by the European Court, which we accepted fully, recognizing its value, has operated extremely well.
Herefter dækker dette ændringsforslag alle de spørgsmål, hvarom der var opstået uoverensstemmelse mellem Parlamentet og Ministerrådet, og løser det problem, som opstod ved Ministerrådets ønske om, at der skulle være en bedre balance mellem for pligtelsesbevillinger og betalingsbevillinger i Parlamentets dispositionsmargen.
Furthermore, Mr President, this amendment substantially covers all the issues over which Parliament and the Council of Ministers have been in dispute, and it resolves the problem which arose from the Council's desire to see a better balance between commitment and payment appropriations in the lines of Parliament's margin.
Dette problem løses med oprettelsen af en negativ reserve i størrelsesordenen 150 mio. ECU, hvor der indtil slutningen af dette år vil blive opført forpligtelsesbevillinger, der vil op stå af de samlede forpligtelsesbevillinger for ikkeobligatoriske udgifter.
This problem is solved by the creation of a negative reserve in which, by the end of this year, will be included commitment appropriations released from the existing total of commitment appropriations for noncompulsory expenditure.
Det vil sige, at af et beløb på over ca. 9 mia ECU vil der blive opført ikke-anvend-te bevillinger. Proceduren vil være følgende: Kom missionens forslag og Europa-Parlamentets beslut-
That is, appropriations which have been lying in abeyance, from a total of over 9 million ECU approximately, will be carried over to there.
ning, ligesom det gøres med bevillingsoverførsler af denne type.
The Court of Justice of the European Communities ruled that we must reach agreement between our selves.
Jeg vil mene, at det er nytteløst at spørge, hvorfor vi ikke gjorde det færdigt i december; i øvrigt er der delte meninger om dette, også her i salen.
In doing that it was only expressing the will of the people of Europe, who did not understand why the Community had no budget.
Tiden er kommet til at se fremad og se, hvordan tingene fra nu af vil udvikle sig.
We have bowed to that decision.
Den dækker fuldstændig alle de forudsætninger, som var opstillet i december 1985, og hvormed der fra Europa-Parlamentets side tilstræbtes en korrekt dækning af Fællesskabets finansielle behov og udarbejdelsen af et budget, som vil svare fuldstændig til artikel 199 i traktaten.
I think that this first financial year, subject to the vote which is to be taken, we must show that this double majority is possible.
Jeg vil gerne her hylde hr. Brooks, som har ydet per sonlige ofre — også fysisk vil jeg sige — når man tager den anstrengelse i betragtning, der har skullet til i løbet af disse dage. Jeg vil også gerne understrege den åbenhed, som jeg tror prægede alle vore forhandlinger og vore relationer, og som han har været den bedste garant for.
I should like to pay homage here to Mr Brooke, who has personally paid the price — physically — of the fatigue to which he has exposed himself in recent days.
Hr. formand, budgetudvalget foreslår vedtagelsen af dette ændringsforslag, fordi man dermed opnår den højeste ny maksimalsats.
Mr President, there are lessons for future proceedings which can be learnt from the current effort, and which can be applied for the first time during the 1987 budget, which awaits us in a few weeks' time — what am I saying, in a few days' time.
Rådsformanden vil blive anmodet om at bekræfte, at han er enig i denne sats, som han selv har udformet, og således vil ifølge Domstolens afgørelse proceduren om 1986budgettet kunne afsluttes.
That is why I hope that Parliament will today be able to demonstrate its sense of responsibility. Yes, I believe that that is what Europe expects of us!
Til sidst vil jeg gerne takke de ministre, der var til stede ved forhandlingen i går aftes, og som ved deres tilstedeværelse gjorde det muligt at sørge for, at ting ene kunne udvikle sig, og tillod at nå til enighed.
Finally I should like to thank the ministers who were present during the negotiations yesterday evening and whose presence helped to get things moving and made it possible to reach agreement.
Jeg tror at i betragtning af de vanskeligheder, vi i dag befinder os i, og som vi i morgen vil befinde os i for at nå frem til denne nødvendige budgetaftale, må vi erindre det i fremtiden, og der skulle på en eller anden måde være en slags pligt til at være til stede, som skulle gælde.
I think that in view of the difficulties which we are experiencing today, and will experience tomorrow, in reaching the the neces sary agreement on the budget, this should be noted for thé future and that some kind of presence should be required.
Jeg vil også hylde vor ordfører, hr Christodoulou, der på en gang har vist åbenhed og den nødvendige fast hed.
I should also like to pay homage to our rapporteur, Mr Christodoulou who provided both the open-mind-edness and the resolve which were needed.
Jeg beder Dem, hr. formand, om at tage budgetudvalgets forslag i betragtning ved vedtagelsen af dette eneste ændringsforslag, som dækker alle de opnåede forhandlingsresultater med Ministerrådet om 1986budgettet.
Finally, as Mr Cot has said, in this great enterprise in which we have been engaged there have been no losers, but Europe has been the winner.
Uden åbenheden var vi ikke kommet til enighed; uden fastheden var vi ikke kommet frem til aftalens indhold, især med hensyn til at bevare de elementer, som vi er glade for, ikke mindst dem, der ligger tæt op ad grænserne for Parlamentets margen, dvs. den nødvendige udvikling af politik, som bliver bragt frem i denne forsamling.
Without that open-mindedness we should not have reached agreement; without resolve we should ultimately have failed to preserve the elements which are so important to us, notably where Parliament's margin is concerned, and that is necessary for the develop ment of the policies which are instigated in this Assembly. bly.
Cot {S), formand for budgetudvalget. — (FR) Hr. for mand, kære kolleger, hr. Brooke, Rådets formand bemærkede i budgetudvalget, at tiden ikke var inde til at uddele ris og ros, til at rose den ene eller den anden for dit eller dat.
Last night we did note a certain scepticism among some of our colleagues on this point, and it became apparent in sometimes rather surprising ways; they can now be reassured.
Denne første øvelse forekommer mig under forbehold af den kommende afstemning at vise, at dette dobbelte flertal er muligt. Samtidig fore kommer den mig at vise den vanskelighed, der er her og der med at samle de nødvendige stemmer.
This is a vital obligation, which the Commission of the European Communites itself has recognised by making the necessary provisions for these commitments to be kept.
Cot udtalt, nemlig at vi i dette år vil forøge vores betalinger til Spanien og Portugal fra regionalfonden, således at vi et meget betydeligt omfang forøger overførslen til de to nye lande.
your lead. I should like, on behalf of the Commission, to thank you, Mr President, for taking that initiative against the background of the 1982 declaration; that made it possible for us to make an immediate start on a new budget procedure.
Samtidig har Rådet sikret, at vi også på andre områder kan iværksætte nye vigtige politikker.
I would like to thank you for that, Mr Pflimlin, on behalf of the Commission.
Hr. formand, vi må drage lære af disse første anstrengelser i de procedurer, som vil komme, og først i for bindelse med 1987-budgettet, som venter os om nogle uger — hvad er det jeg siger, om nogle dage. Derfor ønsker jeg, at Europa-Parlamentet i dag kan vise sig sit ansvar voksent.
Therefore, to some extent at least, it is indisputable that this is the first reading. That is my interpretation, Mr President, and I ask, is a proposal to reject the budget admissible at the present stage of the proce­dure, as this is the first reading?
Ja, jeg tror det er, hvad Europa venter af os!
President. — Thank you, Mr de la Malène.
(Kraftigt bifald)
What has emerged from it?
Hvad har Parlamentet opnået?
What has Parliament achieved?
Hvad har Parlamentet bidraget med?
How did Parliament contribute?
Det har bidraget med god forhandlingsvilje, men har samtidig fået konsolideret sin ind flydelse på Fællesskabets budget. Parlamentet har op nået tilslutning til sit krav om, at the burdens of the past, fortidens byrder, skulle betales.
It contributed by its readiness to negotiate, while at the same time consolidating its influence on the Community budget.
Parlamentet har sikret, at nye politikker kan iværksættes, og det har fået en konkret, positiv aftale med Ministerrådet.
Parliament has ensured that it will be possible to implement new policies, and it has obtained a concrete, positive agreement with the Council of Ministers.
Og hvad har så endelig Kommissionen opnået?
Finally, what has the Commission achieved?
Vi har opnået det, vi har brug for og har bedt om længe: et budget der kan gennemføres, et budget der er kon sistent, et budget der dækker vore behov, og et budget der genskaber det samarbejdsklima, der er brug der genskaber der samarbejdsklima, der er brug formel lem institutionerne.
We have obtained what we needed and have been asking for for so long: a budget that can be implemented, a budget that is consistent, a budget that meets our needs, and a budget that restores the climate of cooperation which is needed between the institutions.
Det vil jeg gerne på Kommissionens vegne sige tak for.
That is something which I would like, on behalf of the Commission, to say 'thank you' for.
Brooke, formand for Rådet. — (EN) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, jeg vil fatte mig i korthed. Jeg vil gerne rette en særlig tak til hr. Cot og hans kolleger for det fremragende samarbejde, som vi formåede at skabe i løbet af de seneste dage og nætter.
Mr Christodoulou (PPE), general rapporteur. — (GR) Mr President, because of the particular situa­tion, and because we are following a procedure which, as I understand it, has no precedent, I think that we could go ahead with the vote on Mr Tomlinson's pro­posal without this intimating that the comments of Mr de la Malène are without meaning and substance.
Jeg vil gerne takke Dem personligt, hr. formand, for den varme vel komst.
But the procedure has turned out to be such now that it is imperative to have a decision taken.
På Rådets vegne kan jeg med stor tilfredshed sige. at det er enigt i det bud get, som De skal til at stemme om.
So it is better for us to be sure of things by having a vote than to have problems later on because of not having one.
Endelig har der, som hr. Cot sagde, ikke været nogen tabere i denne store sag, som vi har taget del i, men Europa har været vinderen.
(Parliament rejected the proposal to reject the draft general budget)
(Kraftigt og vedvarende bifald).
Β 2­602/86), tabled by Mr Tom­linson and others, pursuant to Article 203(8) of the EEC Treaty.
Formanden. — Der foreligger først et forslag om fuld stændig forkastelse af budgettet af hr. Tomlinson m.fl. (dok.
President. — I now have a proposal from the Com­mittee on Budgets (Doc.
B2-602/86) i overensstemmelse med artikel 203, stk. 8 i raktaten om oprettelse af Det euro pæiske økonomiske Fællesskab.
(62/1/86) on the Council proposals relating to the budget for the 1986 financial year.
De la Malene (RDE). - (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne spørge Dem om antageligheden af dette forslag til beslutning om forkastelse.
Mr de la Malene (RDE). — (FR) Mr President, I should like to ask whether this proposal to reject the budget is admissible.
Jeg havde allerede for adskillige år siden lejlighed til at få Parlamentet til at udtale sig om Fællesskabets retspraksis på dette om råde.
Many years ago I had occasion to ask the Assembly to give a ruling on Community juris­prudence on the matter.
Jeg ved, at vi befinder os i en lidt kompliceret procedure. Alligevel bør vi ikke glemme, at i det budget forslag, der er forelagt, skal vi stemme om obligatoriske udgifter, som vi kun udtaler os om under første behandlingen.
It was understood that it was possible to table a resolu­tion to reject the budget only at the second reading and that since there was no overall vote during the first reading there was no vote on the rejection.
Kommissionens formand og formanden for Ministerrådet tilsluttede sig det.
I know, Mr President, that we are engaged in a rather complex procedure.
Det vil jeg gerne takke Dem for, hr. Pflimlin. på Kommissionens vegne.
Nevertheless let us not forget that
Hvad er der kommet ud af det?
We desperately wanted it.
Jeg vil gerne høre formandskabets fortolkning af det te spørgsmål.
But it would be wrong to say that we were not afraid last
Det spørgsmål, De rejser, er vigtigt.
That is also why our Group fought so much.
Hvis jeg vender mig til forretningsordenen og traktaten — artikel 203, stk. 8 — så læser jeg følgende:
crats would like to thank the Commission for its work in drawing up a basic document essential to bring about a speedy conclusion to the crisis created by the judgment of the Court of Justice.
»Dog kan Forsamlingen, når vægtige grunde taler herfor, med et flertal af sine medlemmers stemmer og med to tredjedele af de afgivne stemmer, forkaste budgetforslaget og begære, at et nyt forslag forelægges den«.
It is all to the good, everything ended well, and we must congratulate the actors: the President of Parliament, and the President-in-Office of the Council, for his efforts to ensure that the common agricultural policy and the structural funds could operate, but also for his understanding of Parliament's problems; Mr Christodoulou, our rapporteur, who gave us so much help and whose tenacity I salute today, even though, in all honesty, I must admit that I did not always share his opinion, the chairman of the Com mittee on Budgets and, finally, the entire Commission.
Det forekommer altså ved læsning af denne artikel i traktaten, at en anmodning om forkastelse er antage lig.
It is a noteworthy fact that this is the first time we have voted on a budget which has the full agreement of the Council of Ministers.
Ikke desto mindre ville jeg gerne høre ordføreren, hr. Christodoulous, mening.
Let us hope that it augurs well for the future.
Vi var gentagne gange givet udtryk for det synspunkt, at landbrugsudgifternes stigningstakt skal være lavere end stigningen i de egne indtægter. Men når vi kommer i en spændt situation, så snart vi har ryggen mod muren stikker vi øjeblikkelig halen mellem benene og fornægter vore tidligere principper.
We are aware that this might be the best budget possible, in view of its origins; we could not therefore vote against it, but we are equally aware that with the pres ent limitations of the Structural Funds and the EAGGF it is practically impossible, in our view, to achieve the compromise of guaranteeing financial neutrality for the new Member States; we ought therefore to have followed our natural inclinations and abstained, nevertheless, for the sake of a basic feeling of political responsibility and responsibility towards the other peoples of Europe, we have changed our plans at the last minute and shall vote in favour.
Der kommer et tidspunkt, hvor vi i en forsamling, hvor vi er optaget af overvejelser om vore beføjelser, må sige, hvad vi mener, og mene, hvad vi siger, og tage følgerne af at føre vore ord ud i den yderste konsekvens.
We would however ask for the solidarity of other nations and responsibility on the part of the Commission so that in the implementation of the budget account may be taken of the conditions which make it possible to carry out the commitments of the Council towards the new Member States.
Christodoulou (PPE), hovedordfører. - (GR) Hr. for mand, på grund af den konkrete situation, og fordi vi følger en procedure, som, efter hvad jeg forstår, ikke har fortilfælde, mener jeg, at vi kunne foretage af stemning om Tomlinson-forslaget, uden at det betyder, at hr. de la Malenes bemærkninger savner betydning og substans.
Mr Tomlinson (S). — Mr President, I will be voting against the budget because it is a manifestation and reflection of the total inadequacy of our procedures and the inconsistency of our words.
Men proceduren, som den har for met sig i dette øjeblik, kræver, at man tager en beslut ning.
We, on many occasions, most recently when we discussed agricultural price-fixing, expressed very clear views in this House about what our priorities should be.
Derfor er det at foretrække, at vi sikrer os med en afstemning nu i stedet for at få yderligere problemer ved ikke at foretage den.
We have expressed consistently on a number of occasions our view that agricultural expenditure must grow at a slower rate than the increase in own resources.
(Forslaget om fuldstændig forkastelse af budgettet for kastedes)
Yet, when it comes to the crunch, as soon as we have our backs to the wall, we immediately run and deny our earlier positions of principle.
Formanden. — Vi går nu over til forslaget fra budget udvalget (dok.
(Applause from the right)
En anden ting, der bekymrer mig overmåde meget — og en af grundene til at jeg agter at stemme, som jeg sagde — er, at to gange under denne budgetbehandling — én gang i budgetudvalget og én gang under budgetdrøftelserne — stillede jeg Ministerrådet et konkret spørgsmål, og jeg har ikke fået noget svar på det.
Another thing that concerns me in the extreme — and one reason why I shall be voting as I have indicated — is that twice during this budgetary procedure — once in the Committee on Budgets and once during the budget debate — I asked a specific question of the Council of Ministers and I have had no response to it.
Spørgsmålet afspejler det grundlæggende pro blem, at mens vi kæmper for at medtage de 49 mio ECU i merudgifter, som er overført fra 1985, opfører vi beløbet på budgettet på et tidspunkt, hvor vi vid ste, at Kommissionen var ved at omvurdere og efter kontrollere grundlaget for indtægter for indeværende år — indtægter, som vi alle ved, vil være et skøn i nedadgående retning over indtægter — der var ikke noget forsøg på at tage højde herfor, og vi vil sand synligvis i virkeligheden overstige 1,4% ved afstemningen i dag.
The question illustrates a fundamental problem, that as we grapple to include the 49 m ECU of additional expenditure carried forward from 1985, we put that into the budget and yet at the time when we knew that the Commission was re-evaluating and re-examining the basis of revenue for the current year — a revenue which we all know will be a downward estimation of revenue — there was no attempt to take that into account, and we are probably, in reality, exceeding 1.4% in our votes today.
Derfor stemmer jeg imod.
That is why I shall be voting against.
Scrivener (LDR). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, vi har i dag et budget. Det er en god ting.
Mr Arias Cañete (ED). — (ES) Mr President, the Spanish members of the Group of European Demo
Det er bemærkelsesværdigt at konstatere, at det er første gang, vi vedtager et budget, der har Ministerrådets hele og fulde tilslutning. Vi håber, at det er et godt tegn for fremtiden.
The other lesson to be learnt from the procedure which has just ended is that the dialogue which was instituted between Parliament and the Council got to
Van der Lek (ARC). — (NL) Hr. formand, den situation, som nu er opstået med budgettet, er, som jeg allerede sagde sidste gang, et bevis på, at Parlamentet ikke virkelig suverænt træffer afgørelse om budgettet.
accept my integrity in saying so — that something happens to all of us when we arrive in Strasbourg and we somehow behave in this absurd way, passing budgets that we know are meaningless.