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Hr. Früh sagde, at vi er et Fællesskab af demokratier.
I wonder even whether the quotas will be seriously applied in practice.
Det er kun rigtigt i begrænset omfang.
I think that will be impossible.
Men hvorfor skulle det ikke være muligt?
This was not the road chosen, it was not accepted by our Parliament and we have fallen into line with this, but there remain the risks of a quota mechnism which, in our view, resolves nothing.
Jeg forstår ikke, hvorfor ikke i det mindste de kompetente Ministerråd kan træffe flertalsbeslutninger.
In addition to this first factor — the failure, that is, to offer a strategy for the recovery of the stock raising sector — there is a second one : this is not the way to eliminate the imbalance in Mediterranean production.
Det har ikke noget med margarine at gøre, hr. von der Vring: den objektive metode berører kun de produkter, der produceres i selve Fællesskabet, ikke det vi importerer — at De ved det!
In essence, the Commission makes no provision for a Mediterranean agricultural sector — and by this I refer to all the Mediterranean area — that is not longer tied to the support mechanism for continental products ; instead it persists with the concept of products for which support is by one-time only compensation which can therefore be called into ques tion at any time.
Mange overser nu, at hvis nedskæringen af de positive udligningsbeløb kompenseres ved nationale foranstaltninger — og det skal ske — betyder det entydigt en renationalisering af landbrugspolitikken. Også det er en negativ virkning, som vi havde kunnet undgå.
We are not in favour of a policy of destruction ; we are not in favour of the destruction of Europe, and we consider that it is essential to arrive at an agreement on the agricultural front as well as on the other fronts, and, moreover, to arrive at such an agreement as quickly as possible.
Men alt behøver jo ikke at gå sådan, som den liberale gruppe foreslår det.
We should however have preferred this agreement to be better than what is taking shape at this moment.
Alligevel lykkes det ikke. Alene renterne, som Stor britannien går glip af, fordi Parlamentet — Gud ske tak og lov i dette tilfælde også udenrigsministerrådet — ikke har frigivet midlerne for 1983, vil i mellem tiden være højere end det forskelsbeløb, som fru Thatcher stadig slås for.
We do not believe — as Mr Früh said — that even if on Friday the Ministers of Agriculture come to an agreement it will be possible to speak of a genuine success, because we consider that this agreement — which, I must emphasize, is still necessary — is not the agreement that we had hoped might have been concluded at Community level.
Så må vi samle mod til også at sige for en gang skyld — selv om det forskrækker nogle her til at begynde med: den, der ikke vil være med i dette foretagende, må tage sit gode tøj og gå.
It is not, in essence, the best agreement, and I should like to explain very briefly why : we do not consider that this agreement faces up to the Community's
Vi klarede at finde frem til en fælles europæisk løsning på trods af nationale interesser, fordi alle satte deres egne interesser i baggrunden.
I began by saying something that I wish to repeat : we also consider that sacrifices must be made, by our country as well, but we consider that the acceptance of
Det må da også være muligt i Europa.
That is true only to some extent.
Hvis det ikke lykkes os, hvis der ikke sætte en stopper for den ulykkelige nationale egoisme, så vil et århundredværk blive sat over styr for 250 millioner ECUs skyld!
The Member States are all democracies, but at Community level we do not decide in a democratic fashion.
Jeg skal ikke påstå, at det er et lille beløb. For en skatteborger er det en stor sum. Men hvad vi ville tabe af penge og politiske chancer, hvis Fællesskabet gik i stykker, fordi et eneste land, en eneste politiker, en eneste regering ikke er i stand til at se stort på sin egen nationale interesse, det kan man slet ikke beskrive!
We do not take decisions on a majority vote.
haft problemet i over tre år og har ikke gjort noget ved det.
sacrifices should be accompanied by a clear prospect of the results to be achieved.
Er det et tilfælde, at vi ikke har gjort noget ved det, eller er det rent faktisk led i en plan, som nu har fremkaldt en situation, hvor den værst mulige løsning — nemlig kvotaer og superafgifter — bliver indført, hvilket er ensbetydende med dommedag for det lille familiebrug under udvikling, i hvad land han end måtte befinde sig — selv om der, bør jeg tilføje, er en højere procentdel af dem i mit land end i noget andet?
Now, it seems to us — as I said before — that the only prospect we have is that of maintaining imbalances. If an agricultural price has to be paid, we thought that we could even pay this price if, on the general agreement front, solutions were forthcoming for the recovery of the Community.
Samtidig konsoliderer den de højt udviklede producenter, producenter med storproduktion, som har hovedansvaret, om ikke hele ansvaret for det dilemma, vi nu befinder os i.
In saying this we wish to express very considerable concern at the danger that compensation for Great Britain will be institutionalized ; we want to express concern regarding the question of budgetary proce dure, and regarding elements in the general agree ment that do not appear to us to compensate the sacrifices — albeit necessary — that have to be made on the agricultural front.
Jeg tror, at vi stadig kan finde en løsning. Det er muligt, men vi finder den ikke, hvis vi fortsætter på samme måde som hidtil.
In short we hope that, in the days that remain before the next ministerial meetings, fresh progress may be made, not along the lines of freezing the common agricultural policy and the rest of the Community poli cies, but along the road to European recovery.
Vi skal seriøst diskutere Fællesskabets principielle problemer.
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Det fører mig frem til problemet om de foreslåede nedskæringer af kornpriserne — på grund af et kunstigt skabt overskud.
Nor do I understand why this was not done in the foreign ministers' meeting.
Hvorfor skabe overskud ved at tillade import og så påberåbe sig dette overskud som en begrundelse for at nedskære priserne?
The margin which separates us in this matter is now really so narrow that it can only be described by an American turn of phrase.
Det skal vi sige til vore borgere nu.
And still we cannot agree.
Her er der ikke noget overskud, så hvad er begrundelsen for det? Hvilke landmænd bliver hårdest ramt?
If we do not include what was agreed on last week by the agriculture ministers' meeting, we shall in my view be unable to identify the true reason for this recent failure.
Det må da være dem i de dårligt stillede områder, som igen vil blive taberne i langt større format, relativt set, end de større producenter, hvor de end befinder sig.
In the last week before the summit it was almost a miracle that the Council of Agriculture Ministers had finished their homework and put forward a proposal which ought really to have been accepted.
Hvorfor, tænker vi ikke, når vi taler om diskrimination eller mangel på diskrimination og afsky mod diskrimination, på den fiasko, som over en bank pris forhøjelserne eller prisstøtten har været?
True, there was the question of Ireland which was made an exception, but everyone said — and I believe rightly — that for a country in which dairy production provides 8% of gross domestic product, it is naturally vital to secure terms which are perhaps different from the rest.
Hvorfor skal den store producent, som er blevet højt udviklet gennem årene, have den samme støtte pr. produktionsenhed som den lille, kæmpende landmand på vej op, som med tiden kunne blive rentabel, som ville blive ved jorden og bidrage til at begrænse udvidelsen af arbejdsløshedskøen, som vi ser så meget af over hele Europa for tiden?
In this debate on agriculture also, we should therefore ask ourselves why it was actually necessary for the Council of Agriculture Ministers to meet again this week and why it has now failed.
I stedet for foreslår vi at gøre dem større ved at fjerne flere af vore hårdtarbejdende små landmænd fra deres jord og anbringe dem i byområderne, hvorved vi skaber langt større problemer end dem, vi har nu.
Had it not been for the unresolved question of the UK contribution, we should have arrived at a solution of our problems in the agricultural sector.
Blaney (CD). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg er enig i en hel del af det, der er blevet sagt, men faktisk er en stor del af det ikke særlig relevant.
This brings met to a very simple conclusion : if we cannot manage to end this situation in which mischief-makers are rewarded and the most obstructive parties always get their way, then this Community has had it.
Det er alt sammen udmærket at tale om demokrati, demokratiske stater og ingen diskrimination, men hvad gør vi ved, at det ikke er lykkedes at nå til enighed om i særdeleshed mælk, ja om hele landbrugspakken?
We need to pluck up courage and, even if the idea horrifies some of you at first, we should say 'If you cannot work with us, then for heaven's sake leave us !'.
Det er ikke det første år, det ikke der lykkedes os at nå til enighed den 1. april.
Membership of a club consists not only in prop ping up the bar and playing tennis, but also in paying one's dues.
Det er heller ikke det første år, vi er klar over, at mælk er et problem.
This means one must also be able to see beyond one's own personal interest.
Er det et tilfælde, at mælk og behandlingen af overproduktionen heraf er blevet negligeret, siden Parlamentet blev valgt? Vi har
... the attitude of this prime minister has helped to paralyse Europe at a critical and tragic point.
Hvad Irland angår, uanset hvad min regering eller nogen anden siger, betyder en foreslået mælkekvota baseret på 1983-produktionen plus 5 % med en mulig revision ved årets slutning, stadig ruin for mange af vore små mælkeproducerende landbrug.
In the question of agriculture policy many people have done this, and I would stress once again that my group is in favour of quota restrictions because we see it as the only way of containing what has now become an unforeseeable budget risk, one which basically also penalizes those who conform to the market regulations.
Jeg vil gerne sige her og nu, at det er enden for den lille producent, hvad enten han bor i Irland eller nogen anden del af Fællesskabet.
A farmer producing for the market is penalized by this system, whereas one who doesn't care two hoots and produces only for the intervention system makes a killing.
Hvis hans brug ikke er højt udviklet, hvis han ikke til fulde har realiseret sit
This is another aspect which can be eliminated by quota fixing.
Vi taler med udgangspunkt i manglende diskrimination.
It is possible, but we shall not find one if we go on as we have done so far.
En differentieret prisstøtte er det, der burde sættes i værk. På den måde ville vi ikke få diskrimination.
We must seriously discuss the fundamental problems facing the Community.
Jeg vil derfor også rose dem her i salen, der gang på gang har påpeget nødvendigheden af en løsning, og som De bemærker, gør jeg ingenforskel mellem tilhørsforhold til denne eller hin politiske gruppe.
I believe agriculture should take this chance. When one fixes a production quota one can at the same time fix prices — provided enough information is available regarding the effects on the Community budget.
Ganske vist skal jeg i al beskedenhed gøre opmærksom på, at et klart flertal i den socialistiske gruppe igennem fem år uafbrudt har krævet en fornuftig reform af landbrugspolitikken.
This was one of the reasons for my proposal during the debate on prices that the objective method should be applied once the production quota is fixed.
Arndt (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, det er symptomatisk, at vi først taler om landbrugspolitiken, før vi kommer frem til at tale om topmødets resultater.
I know, ladies and gentlemen, that you of the SPD sneer at these objective methods precisely because they are objective !
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Jeg vil her gerne gentage, hvad nogle af de tidligere talere allerede har sagt.
But this will not get us any further forward.
Så ville beslutningerne fra topmøderne nemlig se anderledes ud!
It would also have had another effect.
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Ret beset er ingen på alle punkter indforstået med det, der nu ligger på bordet i Rådet af landbrugsministrene, eller det, der dér er forelagt fra Kommissionens side.
That has nothing to do with margarine, Mr von der Vring. The objective method applies only to products produced in the Community itself and not to our imports — as you well know.
Men det afgørende punkt er dog, at vi nu må erkende, at vi skal væk fra en holdning, der for en dels vedkommende var imod dette kompromis, således at der findes en løsning, for uden kompromiset går ikke alene den fælles landbrugspolitik i stykker, men hele Fællesskabet kommer først så rigtigt, ud i en alvorlig situation.
If we had applied this method we should also have had room to manoeuvre in phasing out the positive MCAs in a Community manner.
Derfor har jeg egentlig beundret Michel Rocard for den måde, han har overgået sig selv på i en række spørgsmål og har stillet forslag.
Many people currently fail to realize that, if the reduction of the positive MCAs is offset by national measures — and this must be the case — this clearly means a renationalization of agriculture policy.
Det må vi blive enige om, og Parlamentet skal sige til Kommissionen og Rådet, at man ikke må forhindre enighed på grund af detaljer.
We managed to find a common European solution, in spite of our national interests, because everybody looked beyond his national interest.
Europa har et rigtig dårligt rygte. Hr. Bangemann gik i krig med briterne, men jeg vil i dag slå et slag for vore britiske venner.
Not that this is a small sum.
Må jeg lige gøre Dem, hr. Bangemann, og mange andre opmærksom på, at netop briterne — både mine venner fra Labour og dem fra det konservative parti — i årevis har peget på, at den grundlæggende fejl ligger i, at den nødven dige reform af landbrugspolitikken atter og atter bliver blokeret!
But what we stand to lose in terms of finance and political opportunity if this Community breaks up because a single country, politician or government cannot see further than its own national interest is quite indescribable !
Min indtrængende bøn til Kommissionen: forsøg på at bevare den holdning, at der skal opnås enighed inden 1. april.
Mr Blaney (CDI). — Mr President, I agree with quite a bit of what has been said, but a great deal of it is not very relevant.
Min indtrængende bøn til Rådet: Hold dog op med at blokere med detaljer. Når det på et tidspunkt er nødvendigt med korrekturer til fordel for nødlidende landbrugere, så vil vi nok også få dem igennem.
It is all very well to talk about democracy, democratic States and non-discrimination, but what are we doing as regards the failure to reach agree ment over milk, in particular, and, indeed, the overall farm package ?
Men dette første skridt mod en reform skal i det mindste tages!
This is not the first year that we have failed to reach agreement by 1 April.
Forsøg dog at komme til enighed her, og lad os ikke nu med nye krav stille barrikader op — »det med den irske mælk skal alligevel ordnes« — for at forhindre denne enighed.
It is also not the first year that v/e are aware that milk is a problem. Is it an accident that milk and the handling of its over production has been neglected since this Parliament was elected ?
Det drejer sig ikke blot om briternes berettigede inte resse i en retfærdig udligning.
We have had the problem for over three years and have done nothing about it.
Nej, meget hænger også sammen med, at vi i Parlamentet i mange tilfælde har foretaget afstemninger splittet og forskel ligt.
Is it an accident that we have done nothing, or is it, in fact, part of a plan, that has now brought about a situation where the very worst possible solution — namely, quotas and superlevies — is being introduced, thereby spelling doom for the small, developing family milk producer in whatever country he may be — though there is, I should add, a higher percentage of them in my country than in any others ?
Hvad der her i dag blev sagt om kompromiset i Bruxelles, kunne jeg have ønsket mig for fire år siden: at der nemlig i landbrugsprisdebatten i højere grad og mere afgjort var blevet henvist til, at smørbjerge, mælkesøer og mælkepulverbjerge er en skan
At the same time, it is consolidating the highly-developed producers, the large-volume producers who are mainly, if not solely, responsible for the dilemma we now find ourselves in.
Parlamentet vil i dag gøre det klart, at man skal blive enige om disse landbrugsspørgsmål, så man også dermed har en god forudsætning for i Det europæi ske Råd at blive enige om det britiske bidrag.
This threat now faces us. We too have to help to resolve the problem and I hope the Commissioner will not take it amiss if I say that we are no longer as optimistic as he is.
Arndt dog efterhånden, at Europas og Europas folks vel, herunder også de 13 mio arbejdsløses vel, er så vigtigt, at vi helt enkelt ikke har råd til, at denne idé bliver en fiasko.
Blaney the summit. But that is of course quite logical, because we have known for years that the key to further progress in the European Community lies precisely in a sensible reform of agriculture policy, which is necessary if the common agricultural policy is to be saved.
Men det erkender de fornuftige landmænd i fuldt omfang.
Why create the surplus by allowing imports and then plead the surplus as a reason for reducing prices ?
For hvem har fået denne mængdebegrænsning igennem, kære kollega Arndt?
I should like to repeat what a number of previous speakers have already said.
Deres landbrugsspecialister i forbundsdagen er gud hjælpe mig i dag stadig af den mening, at den hånde beslutning, som alle landmænd kræver, ikke burde tages. Deres forslag, som De beskriver som den optimale løsning for landbrugspolitikken, er forkert.
We members of parliament are currently required — one might almost say day and night — to come eyeball to eyeball with our constituents at meetings, and I really wish that those who take the decisions at summit conferences or the bureaucrats who slip prepared speeches to their prime ministers could take part in meetings of this kind and talk to our citizens about the Community.
Hr. Früh sagde meget tydeligt, at de Ti's Europa er et demokratisk opbygget Europa.
In the case of sheepmeat, for instance, we are told that there will be some reduction.
Der er altså slet ingen uenighed i det spørgsmål.
Here there is no surplus, so what is the justification for this ?
Jeg kommer endnu en gang tilbage til det centrale punkt.
Which farmers will be hit the most ?
Europas borgere vil ikke kunne forstå det, hvis landbrugsministrene ikke tager en beslutning.
Surely those in the disadvantaged areas will again be the losers in a much bigger way, relatively speaking, than the larger producers wherever they may be.
Til den franske landbrugsminister Rocard, der i går aftes i fjernsynet deprimeret sagde, at så må vi overveje, om vi skal indføre flertalsafstemninger, kan jeg ikke andet end sige: lav dog flertalsafstemninger i Rådet af landbrugsministre !
Why, when we talk about discrimination or lack of discrimination and abhor ring discrimination, do we not think about the failure that the across-the-board price rises or price supports have been ?
Vi må desuden erkende, at der med topmødet — med undtagelse af to punkter — dog blev opnået resultater, der kan forelægges som resultat af mange seje forhandlinger mellem Rådene.
Why should the big producer, highly developed over the years, get the same support per unit of production as does the small struggling developing farmer who in time could become viable, would stay on the land and would help to reduce the additions to the dole queues we see so much of all over Europe at the moment ?
Vi skal takke Rådets formand, hr. Mitterrand, for at han holdt pakkeløsningerne sammen, og også vor forbundskansler Kohl for, at der fra Vesttysklands side gang på gang blev taget imødekommende skridt over for den vanskelige partner.
Instead, we propose to add to them by bringing more of our small struggling farmers off the land and putting them ¡nto urban areas, thus creating far greater problems than those we have to deal with now.
Det samme må jeg sige til vore udenrigsministre: lav dog flertalafstemninger om det engelske bidrag!
My honourable friend Bangemann has sharply criticized the British, but I will stick up for our British friends here.
Hvad regeringscheferne fra de ni andre stater nu frem lægger, mener det store flertal i Parlamentet er et fair tilbud. Også her bør der besluttes ved flertalsafstemning. ning.
Let me remind Mr Bangemann and many others that it is precisely the British — my friends in the Labour Party as well as those in the Conservative Party — who have been saying for years that the Community's main error lay in repeat edly blocking the necessary reform of the agricultural policy !
Hermed er vi nået til det punkt, hvor man må stille Margaret Thatcher det spørgsmål, om der overhovedet er evne til kompromis til stede i Det forenede Kongerige.
I say here and now that it is the end of the small producer, whether he be in Ireland or in any other part of the Community.
Når vi stiller det spørgsmål, så skal vi — hr. Arndt — uden tvivl også indrømme, at der findes ting, som briterne med rette kræver en løsning på via finansstrukturen.
If he is not highly developed, if he has not fully realized his potential at this stage, then there is no hope for him in the future.
Briterne vil jeg gerne minde om — og jeg bliver helt sikkert ikke mistænkt for at være anti-britisk — at de i 1972 underskrev Rom-traktaten.
The United Kingdom's justified concern for fair compensation is not the only problem : a large part of it is also that we in this House have in many cases voted differently and dividedly.
I denne Rom traktat står, at Fællesskabet ikke kun er et økonomisk fællesskab, ikke kun en frihandelszone, men at Fællesskabet på områderne regionalpolitik, energi- og udviklingspolitik og også i beskæftigelsespolitikken har store opgaver, der skal løses i en solidarisk ånd.
I should like to have heard four years ago the comments made today on the Brussels compromise : I should have liked greater and more decisive emphasis to have been given in our debates on agricultural prices to the fact that butter mountains, milk lakes and milk powder mountains are a scandal !
Det betyder også — og det siger jeg som tysk parlamentariker — at vi utvivlsomt ved de egne indtægter, der også kommer fra de tyske borgeres moms, må yde mere!
Mind you, Mr Bangemann, who now rightly expresses such energetic support for this Brussels proposal, was not at the time in favour of such action !
Vi må se på, hvilken situation vi i dag befinder os i.
We talk against a background of non-discrimination.
Briterne må finde sig i følgende spørgsmål: Vil De virkelig anerkende denne solidaritetens ånd i traktaterne? Hvis De vil det, så skal De nu acceptere dette kompromis.
Differentiated price support is what should be applied.
Men hvis De ikke vil det, hvis De opfatter traktaterne forkert eller på en anden måde end vi, så må De finde Dem i, at vi spørger Dem, om det er rigtigt, at De forbliver i Fællesskabet.
At present, flat-price, across-the-board increases or supports are discriminatory.
Jeg går ind for, at briterne forbliver i Fællesskabet; den grundlæggende beslutning må de dog selv træffe.
That is something that we have not learned from our many discussions and debates in this Parliament or in our committees over the past five years that I have been here.
Og landbrugsministrene skal beslutte på fredag.
Mr Arndt (S). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen.
Hvis de ikke gør det, vil de ikke længere få opbakning fra Parlamentet.
It is symptomatic that we start talking about agricultural policy before tackling the results of