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Otte af De Ti har endog inden for Atlantpagtens integrerede system truffet formelle afgørelser i sagen.
Eight of the Ten have indeed taken formal decisions on this subject, through their participation in the integrated system of the Atlantic Alliance.
Men det har ikke været noget, man er gået i gang med i De Ti med henblik på at nå frem til et holdningsfællesskab.
However, the Ten have not discussed this subject with a view to establishing a common position. tion.
De har selv tidligere peget på dette problem. Dette spørgsmål, nr. 89, indeholder en række påstande af i høj grad forstokket og faktisk på ingen måde særlig høflig art. Jeg vil sige, at personalet på Deres højre og venstre side — eller hvem det nu er — har vist pligtforsømmelse ved nogen sinde at tillade, at dette spørgsmål blev trykt i spørgsmålsdokumentet.
We are familiar with the statement in which, a few months ago, he censured this initiaitive by the Greek Govern ment, as also did other Foreign Ministers of the EEC's Member States, on the grounds that initiatives of that kind destabilize the political cooperation between EEC countries and undermine the political unity of Western Europe.
Forskellige personer, der har siddet i Deres stol, har gjort det krystalklart gang efter gang, at bestemmelserne i artikel 44, der udelukker påstande og vurderinger, skal følges, og jeg vil gerne have en forklaring fra Dem på, hvorfor den stab, De fører tilsyn med, ikke har gjort, hvad man udtrykke ligt har bedt den om at gøre.
Besides, it is well known that, one way or another, Soviet missiles can reach the Balkans from Soviet territory in very little time, what, please are the Minister's views on this ?
Formanden. — Hr. Pearce, spørgsmålet vil ikke blive behandlet i dag.
Mr Pöttering (PPE). — (DE) Mr President-in-Office of the Council, I find your statement concerning the nuclear-free zone in the Balkans and on nuclear-free zones in general very encouraging.
Pöttering (PPE). — (DE) Hr. rådsformand, Deres stillingtagen til den atomvåbenfrie zone på Balkan i særdeleshed og til atomvåbenfrie zoner i almindelighed finder jeg meget opmuntrende.
Mr Cheysson. — (FR) The President-in-Office cannot have an opinion on this subject, since, as I have just said, there are strongly held divergent views among the Ten.
Vil formands landet fortsætte sine bestræbelser over for den græske regering på at gøre den bekendt med denne opfattelse, som vedkommende land efter min opfattelse med rette står for, og overbevise den om, at det er nødvendigt, at supermagterne, altså USSR og USA, afruster i fællesskab, ensartet og i ligevægt, at det er alternativet og ikke en atomvåbenfri zone på Balkan?
However, it is open to the President-in-Office to quote a member of the Council of Ministers, the French Minister for External Relations, who stated in a speech delivered in Stockholm on 17 January that, in the strategic conditions currently obtaining in the northern hemisphere, plans for nuclear-free or limited disengagement zones have no significant reality. I of course leave the French Minister for External Relations to carry full responsibility for expressing this opinion.
Cheysson. — (FR) Emnet er alvorligt.
Mr Cheysson. — (FR) This is a serious subject.
Jeg vil derfor blive meget overrasket, hvis De Ti, når de forenes i politisk samarbejde, skulle ophøre med at tale derom.
I should therefore be very surprised if it were not a constant topic of discussion among the Ten when they meet in political cooperation.
Det er ganske indlysende, at når de taler om det, vil enhver bestræbe sig på at overbevise de andre om sin påstands rigtighed.
Clearly, when they do discuss it, they will each be trying to persuade the others that their view is the correct one.
Formanden. — Hvad angår spørgsmål nr. 89, er hr. Alavanos ikke til stede.
President. — With regard to Question No 89, Mr Alavanos is not present.
Formanden. — Jeg vil gerne undskylde over for råds formanden, at tiden er ved at udløbe med disse bemærkninger til forretningsordenen.
Sir James Scott-Hopkins (ED). — Will the President-in-Office of the Council congratulate the French Foreign Minister on his speech in Stockholm.
Plaskovitis (S). — (GR) Hr. formand, jeg er ganske vist ikke kompetent til at træde i hr. Alavanos' sted, som har taget sit spørgsmål tilbage.
Mr Cheysson. — (FR) The President-in-Office cannot of course associate himself with such a declaration, which the French Minister for External Relations in fact never made.
Pearce (ED). — (EN) Jeg vil gerne til forretningsordenen fremhæve, at ligesom vi er bundet af Parlamen tets forretningsorden, er også den det, der beklæder formandssædet.
Mr Pearce (ED). — I would like to submit to you as a point of order that just as we are bound by the Rules of Procedure of this House, so is the person occupying the chair where you sit.
De nægtede mig min ret til i overens stemmelse med artikel 82 og 83 at få ordet for en bemærkning til forretningsordenen for et stykke tid siden, og jeg tror, at ved at gøre det valgte De ikke selv forretningsordenen, hr. formand.
You denied me my right, under Rules 82 and 83, to make a point of order some time ago and I believe in doing that you, yourself, Mr President, were not following the rules.
Endvidere tillod De ved at acceptere hr. Eyrauds tillægsspørgsmål, som han fortalte Dem drejede sig om et spørgsmål længere nede på listen, at der skete et brud på aftalen om, at spørgsmål vil blive besvaret i den rækkefølge, hvori de er indgivet.
Moreover, in accepting Mr Eyraud's supplementary question, which he told you was in relation to a ques tion further down the list, you permitted a breach to take place of the agreement that questions would be answered in the order in which they were submitted.
Hr. formand, jeg håber, at man vil se på denne sag.
I hope, Mr President, that this matter can be looked at.
Med hensyn til spørgsmål nr. 89 gør det forhold, at hr. Alavanos har taget sit spørgsmål tilbage, ikke
As regards Question 89, the fact that Mr Alavanos has withdrawn this question does not detract from what I wish to say.
Formanden. — Deres bemærkninger vil blive forelagt præsidiet og formanden for præsidiet, hr. Dankert.
Rule 44 makes it very clear that questions should not contain assertions or opinions.
Efter min opfattelse er forretningsordenen ganske
Now I accept that there is a problem as regards oral ques-
Hvis det ikke er tilfældet, vil formanden påtale det.
If it is not the case, the President will object.
Spørgetiden er afsluttet (').
Question Time is concluded.1
1­1529/83) af sir James Scott­Hoppkins for det politiske udvalg om den økono­miske og politiske situation i Zimbabwe.
1-1529/83) by Sir James Scott-Hopkins on behalf of the Political Affairs Committee, on the economic and political situation in Zimbabwe.
Ikke desto mindre er jeg glad for, at den omsider er blevet forelagt Parlamentet til vurdering.
This question, No 89, contains a number of assertions of a highly opiniated and, indeed, none too courteous nature.
Jeg vil gerne komme med yderligere to korte bemærkninger.
I would say that the staff to your right and left — or whoever it is — are derelict in their duty in ever allowing that ques tion to be printed in the list of questions.
Den første er, at de problemer, jeg har nævnt, forværres voldsomt af de hvides udvand­ring — ikke fordi de er hvide, men fordi mellemle­derplanet og også de faglærte teknikere er hvide.
Various occupants of your Chair have made it crystal clear, time and time again, that the provisions of Rule 44 excluding assertions and opinions must be followed and I would like to have an explanation from you as to why the staff under your control have not done what they have been expressly told to do.
Som resultat heraf, fordi mellemlederniveauet i industrien desværre mangler, foregår regeringens beslutninger utrolig langsomt.
Will you also give, yet again, a clear-cut statement that, in future, the provisions of Rule 44 will be followed and that you will tell the staff that they are to obey the Rules of Procedure of this House and not print ques tions which are in breach of those rules. I hope you will give me those two assurances.
Samtidig, da også teknikerne er væk, tager ting som reparation af elektricitetsforsy­ningen, når den svigter, uendelig lang tid.
Sir James Scott-Hopkins (ED), rapporteur. — Mr President, it is a pity in a way that this report has taken so long to come before the House, because things move very quickly in Africa, as you know, and a lot of the things which are in the report are liable to be out of date if one has to wait six months in order to get it onto the floor.
Der har været appelleret til de ekspatrierede om at vende tilbage, men det har ikke givet resultat.
Nevertheless, I am glad it has at last come before the House for consideration.
Zimbabwe er på mange måder et meget trist sted at besøge for øjeblikket.
Zimbabwe is in many ways a very sad place at the moment to go and visit.
Det har et enormt potentiel, men alligevel realiseres dette potentiel ulykkeligvis meget lidt.
It has an enormous potential, and yet, unhappily, there is very little realization of that potential.
Lad mig hurtigt opridse hovedpunkterne, for på fem minutter kan jeg ikke gøre mere end det, og jeg håber, at de ærede medlemmer vil vise mig den elskværdighed at læse begrundelsen, som dækker mange af de ting, jeg ikke har mulighed for at komme ind på nu.
Let me quickly outline the main points, for in five minutes I cannot do more than that and I hope that honourable Members will do me the courtesy of reading the explanatory statement which covers the many points that I shall not shall able to raise now.
Det andet, jeg gerne vil komme ind på, drejer sig om situationen i Matabeleland, hvor der har været stor uro og stor ustabilitet og vold. Den 5. brigade har måttet indsættes endnu en gang, efter at den for ret nylig var blevet hjemkaldt, der er forlydender om, at der sker alle slags grusomheder i Matabeleland.
Mr Eyraud (S). — (FR) Mr President, having been impugned personally by Mr Pearce, I would say to him that he is questioning my motives, just as he is questioning your own, in your application of the Rules of Procedure.
Der har været tale om, at der er blevet fundet dødslejre meget lignende dem, som blev fundet for nylig, og som utvivlsomt blev brugt under Smith­regimet.
In fact, the question that I put to the President-in-Office was quite directly related to the question on steel, since these matters are of a piece in the discussions with the United States.
Jeg tror, at situationen i det sydvestlige Zimbabwe, især i Matabeleland, er alvorlig, og at den forhåbentlig snart vil blive løst.
I do not think that we can be criticized for bringing cereal substitutes into a discussion on negotiations with the United States.
Jeg ved ikke, om det kan lade sig gøre, men den har medført en hel del politisk ustabi­litet og en masse problemer.
And there was a perfectly logical link between Question No 80 and the question on steel.
For at tage økonomien først er der ingen tvivl om, at der er meget alvorlige problemer, som virker hæmmende på landets økonomiske væst.
To turn first to the economy, there is little doubt that there are enormously grave problems depressing the country's economic growth.
Faktisk har nedgangen fra for to år siden — årene lige efter uafhængigheden i 1979 — til 1983 været aldeles dramatisk, fra en vækst i bruttonationaproduktet på 15 % til desværre et minustal på formentlig 3 i 1983.
Indeed, the drop between two years ago — the years just after independence in 1979 — and 1983 has been absolutely dramatic, from a growth in the GNP of 15%, to, unhappily, a minus figure of probably 3 in 1983.
Derfor er hele situationen meget dramatisk i Zimbabwe.
Therefore, the whole situation is very dramatic in Zimbabwe.
Der er kronisk mangel på udenlandsk valuta, og denne mangel har naturligvis en umid­delbart begrænsende virkning på den import, som er så nødvendige for Zimbabwes økonomi.
There is a chronic lack of foreign currency and that lack, of course, immediately inhibits the imports which are so necessary to the Zimbabwean economy.
Det resulterer i helt overvæl­dende mangelsituationer for industrien. Der er også stor mangel på investering fra oversøisk hold, og der finder kun ringe eller ingen modernisering sted for øjeblikket som resultat heraf.
They are restricted, and it is the government that has to lay down the priorities.
Tobaksproduktionen er ikke berørt af tørken, men tobakseksporten er blevet bremset til Fællesskabet, hr. Pisani — og jeg har mistanke om, at det er, fordi den italienske regering er imod den.
Mr Plaskovitis (S). — (GR) Mr President, I am clearly not qualified to replace Mr Alavanos who with drew his question.
Men faktisk supplerer tobak fra Zimbabwe italiensk tobak og er ikke på nogen måde en konkurrent til den. det er faktisk helt nødvendigt for Zimbabwes økonomi, at der ikke er restriktioner på tobaksimporten til Fællesskabet.
I asked to speak immediately after Mr Pearce and I want to ask whether Rule 44 of the Rules of Procedure is subject to interpretation by the Conservative Members and whether Mr Pearce is qualified to interpret it and to pass judgment on the way in which Members who do not belong to his group put their questions.
Jeg vil lige forlade emnet et øjeblik, hr. formand.
I am going to depart from my theme, Mr President, for one moment.
Det er beklageligt, at Parlamentets formand under debatten om en betænkning fra det politiske udvalg har givet det politiske udvalg tilladelse til at holde møde, og jeg ser just den franske udenrigsminister forlade salen for at gå ned og tale til udvalget.
It is regrettable that during a debate on a report presented by the Political Affairs Committee the President of Parliament should have allowed the Political Affairs Committee to hold a meeting, and I see the Foreign Minister of France just moving off to go down and talk to that committee.
Det finder jeg beklageligt, og jeg håber, hr. formand, at De vil gøre Deres yderste for at sørge for, at det ikke
That, I think, is regrettable, and I hope, Mr President, you will do the best you can to see that is does not happen again, I am however, very grateful to Mr Pisani, the Commissioner, for being here and paying attention to what is being said.
Endelig, hr. formand, mødte jeg noget af Fællesska­bets personale, da jeg var dernede.
President. — Your remarks will be forwarded to the Bureau and to the President of the Bureau, Mr Dankert.
De gør en fanta­stisk indsats med hensyn til at administrere støtten og afhjælpe situationen på stedet så meget, som de på nogen måde kan.
As I understand it the Rules of Procedure are quite clear the President is responsible for the conduct of Question Time and it is he who decides whether or not a question can be put and whether it is a question or a supplementary question.
De to andre er ikke ansat i Fællesskabet, men er der under ESA, hvilket betyder, at de ingen pensionsrettigheder og ingen foríremmelsesrettigheder hår.
Scott-Hopkins cials : the other two are not Community workers, but are there under the EAC, which means they have no pension rights and no promotion rights.
Jeg håber oprigtigt, at denne situation vil blive bragt i orden, og at de alle vil blive gjort til fællesskabsembedsmænd.
I sincerely hope that this situation will be put right and that they will all be made Community officials.
Zimbabwe har en hel del at tilbyde.
To conclude what is very unsatisfactory opening to this debate, Zimbabwe has a great deal to offer.
Så længe det holder sig forfatningsmæssigt på måtten og premierministeren ikke prøver at danne en et-partistat, hvilket hans ministre siger, at han ikke vil, så er der chance for en fredelig politisk udvikling.
As long as it stays on the constituional line and the Prime Minister does not try to make a one-party State, which his ministers say he will not, then there is the chance of a peaceful political development.
Men den får brug for en hel del hjælp af Fælles skabet, både i form af fødevarebistand og i form af teknisk bistand.
But it is going to need a great deal of help from this Community, both in food aid and in technical aid.
Jeg håber, at vi har modet og pengene og evnen til det.
I hope we shall have the courage and the money and the ability to provide it.
domme og give råd.
IN THE CHAIR : MR JAQUET
Turner (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, efter min mening har Zimbabwe indtil nu overvundet større politiske og sociale problemer end noget andet land i de sidste fire år.
I should like to make two further quick points. The first is that the problems I have mentioned are greatly aggravated by the exodus of white people — not because they are white, but because they are the middle management and the trained technicians as well.
På trods af al kritikken — og sir James Scott-Hopkins har været inde på noget af den — synes jeg, at præstationen er virkelig bemærkelsesværdig.
As a result, because middle management in industry is unhappily lacking, the decisions of govern ment are incredibly slow in being taken.
Naturligvis er der store problemer stadig væk, og mange grupper i Zimbabwe frygter for deres politiske fremtid.
There was an appeal for ex-patriates to go back, but that has not been successful.
Jeg vil gerne læse noget af, hvad Zimbabwes premierminister skrev tidligere på året. Han sagde, at han gik ind for
I think we have got to do everything we can — and I hope the Commissioner will bear this in mind — to help train these needed technicians and the needed middle management just as soon as we can and so, perhaps, replace what is obviously lacking there.
Deschamps (PPE). — (FR) Det europæiske folkepartis gruppe tilslutter sig sir James Scott-Hopkins' betænkning.
Mr Deschamps (PPE). — (FR) The Group of the European People's Party will be voting in favour of the report by Sir James Scott-Hopkins.
Det gør den hovedsagelig af tre grunde.
It will be doing so for three main reasons.
For det første fordi det er en glimrende betænkning, der er udarbejdet af en mand, som kender og kan lide Afrika og da i særdeleshed det land, han beskæftiger sig med. Dernæst fordi han behandler emnet med en klarsynethed og loyalitet, man ikke alt for tit støder på i betænkninger af denne art. Og endelig fordi han kommer frem til et forslag til beslutning, som vi helt og fuldt kan give vor tilslutning.
First, because it is an excellent report written by a man who knows and loves Africa, especially the country in question. Secondly, because it discusses its subject with a clear sightedness, honesty and objectivity that we unfortunately do not find very often in reports of this type.
I denne beslutning fremhæves de ting, der kan opføres som aktiver for Zimbabwes regering: en imponerende udvidelse af den almene uddannelse, en vellykket integration af de væbnede styrker og afvæbning af guerillagrupperne, domstolenes uvildighed og en forsoningspolitik, der nok støder på vanskelig heder, men alligevel ser ud til at blive fastholdt energisk. gisk.
In this motion for a resolution, emphasis is laid on the things which stand to the credit of the Zimbabwean Government : an impressive effort in the development of education for all, successful integration of the armed forces and disarmament of guerrilla groups, the impartiality of the judiciary, a policy of reconciliation which, to all appearances, is being pursued with determination, although it is admittedly meeting with many difficulties.
Dette forhindrer dog ikke ordføreren i at udmale regeringsaktionens svagheder, og blandt disse nævner han nogle stykker: alvorlig tilsidesættelse af menneskerettighederne, især i Matabeleland, fængslinger uden retssag, specielt af biskop Muzorewa. Han glemmer heller ikke at advare regeringen mod enhver udvikling, der kunne medføre et tilbageskridt i forhold til de hidtil konstaterede fremskridt, og da især imod enhver udvikling der kunne bringe den politiske og racemæssige pluralisme i parlamentet og regeringen i fare.
My second point concerns the situation in Matebeleland, where there has been great unrest and great instability and violence. The Fifth Brigade has had to be called in there yet again, after having been taken out quite recently.
Jeg må gøre det klart, at under hensyntagen til, at vi bekender os til en forfatningsmæssig regering, agter vi ikke at ødelægge denne eller nogen anden del af forfatningen.
However, this has not prevented the rapporteur from pointing out the weaknesses in the Government's action, some of which he has just mentioned : serious violations of human rights, especially in Matabeleland, detention without trial of many individuals , including Bishop Muzorewa.
Vi kan ikke ændre denne del uden støtte fra samtlige medlemmer i Parlamentet før den 18. april 1990.
Nor does he fail to caution the Government against certain developments which could undo the progress achieved hitherto, especially a development which would bring an end to political and radical pluralism in parliament and government.
Vi ændrer kun vor forfatning på den måde, som står nedfældet i forfatningen selv.
Of course, there is still one better aspect, and that concerns tobacco.
Med hensyn til det økonomiske aspekt kan vi i Europa mindske de politiske spændinger i Zimbabwe ved at støtte økonomisk — og vi må støtte omgående.
The production of tobacco is not affected by the drought, but exports of tobacco into the Community, — have been held up, Mr Pisani — I suspect for the reason that the Italian Government is objecting to it.
Den treårige tørke, som sir James Scott-Hopkins kom ind på, har været yderst alvorlig. Den har halveret majsproduktionen, den har halveret hvedeproduktionen, og prisen for at få erstattet det mistede korn vil være 100-200 mio £ om året.
In point of fact, Zimbabwean tobacco is complementary to Italian tobacco and in no way in competition with it. it is really essential for the Zimbabwean economy that there should be no restriction of tobacco imports into the Community.
En vis støtte er allerede givet, men der er absolut behov for mere. For det andet har zimbabweanerne en oksekødkvota for eksport til EF, som meget vel ville kunne indbringe 50 mio £ om året, en betragtelig del af de penge de har brug for.
Sir James Scott-Hopkins rightly stresses this last point — rightly because it goes to the core, it affects the continued development of a prosperous, multiracial and democratic State, which is what we attach so much importance to in what is happening in Zimbabwe.
I øjeblikket kan det ikke lade sig gøre på grund af mund- og klovesyge, og EF tager rent faktisk skridt til at prøve at standse den.
Finally, Mr President, when I was out there I met some of the staff of the Community.
Men der må da være en eller anden opfindsom måde, som kommissæren kan finde på for at kurere denne sygdom og løse problemet for oksekødindustrien derude med det samme. Hvis han gjorde det, ville han med ét slag
They are doing a tremendous job in administering aid and helping the situation there as much as they possibly can.
tilvejebringe næsten halvdelen af de penge, de har brug for på grund af den tørke, de har lidt under i de forløbne tre år.
Deschamps stroke produce almost half the money they need because of the drought they have suffered over the past three years.
Jeg beder ham om at bruge sin fantasi, for jeg ved, at han har den.
I am asking for his imagination to be applied, because I know he has got it.
Find en løsning!
Think of an answer !
Derfor skal vi gøre alt for at hjælpe Zimbabwe i denne vanskelige situation.
May I end by saying that practical help at this stage is the most that we can do.
Det drejer sig om mere end skabelsen af økonomisk stabile forhold, det drejer sig om den politiske fremtid for hele området i det sydlige Afrika.
It is what is really needed most in order to solve the political problems of Zimbabwe.
Jeg vil gerne have lov til at runde af med at sige, at praktisk bistand på dette stadium er det bedste, vi kan gøre.
This is indeed a necessary objective, and recent developments in this part of Africa give grounds for believing that this proposal could now bear fruit.
Det er det, der rent faktisk er mest behov for til at løse Zimbabwes politiske problemer.
We are deeply concerned to see a fair and reasonable solution, which is essential to the survival of the peoples in this part of the world.