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Jeg vil gerne anmode Parlamentet om endelig at stemme for dette forordningsforslag, der nu allerede går elleve år tilbage, for jeg tror, at det er det eneste, der har ventet så længe på accept fra Parlamentets side.
That is why I want to dwell a moment on the other decision, which was taken by the Committee on the Environment : namely, the decision to include dangerous substances in the directive — or Regulation, as we hope — on dangerous waste. Our Group abstained on this point.
Jeg giver udtryk for håbet om, at Parlamentet i dag med stort flertal vil vedtage og acceptere dette forslag til forordning.
We are in fact convinced that a tough regulation is necessary on the question of the shipment of dangerous substances.
Som jeg allerede sagde, er samtlige alkoholiske drikke taget ud, fordi Kommissionen i mellemtiden har udarbejdet et særlig forslag til forordning om regler for definition af alkoholiske drikke, og i dette forordningsforslag kan der tages skyldigt hensyn til de alkoholholdige drikke.
We consider, however, that it is not a good thing to link this ques tion with the question of waste, for the purposes of control, because of the different psychological approach.
FORSÆDE: NICOLAS ESTGEN Næstformand
The two substances are both dangerous : but, whereas someone wants the product and someone produces it, no-one wants the waste !
Purvis (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, Deres forgænger i formandsstolen var i gang med et indlæg til forretningsordenen fra hr. Hord, da hr. Dalsass tog ordet — tilsyneladende til forretningsordenen — og så fortsatte med sin ti minutters tal.
Another sore point — which, as rapporteur of the Committee on the Environment, I cannot forget — is the inadequacy of the Community budget : even though we do not yet know the precise figures, they are always inadequate to the needs of improving Community policies and applying those already in existence, especially where waste is concerned.
Jeg har gjort endnu en ting, som i sin tid blev særligt kritiseret af restudvalget og betegnet som retsstridigt. I det oprindelige forslag havde vi også fastsat særlige anvendelsesområder forbeholdt for landbrugsethanol.
In conclusion, Mr President, I would say that the impression is created in the motion for a resolution and the explanatory statement in the report from the Committee on Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection that the disappearance of the 41 drums of dioxin alone gave rise to this proposal from the European Commission.
Nu har vi også ladet de forbeholdte anvendelsesområder udgå, for at retsudvalget ikke længere skulle have noget at indvende.
We often criticise the Commission but now we are pleased to congratulate them.
Vi har også udeladt dem, fordi det er vor opfattelse, at de ikke ubetinget er nødvendige, for markedsordningen kan jo i sin nuværende udformning uden videre alligevel fungere.
This does not mean, Mr President, that the business of the 41 drums has not impressed on us the urgency of these problems.
Derfor tror jeg, at det nu er på tide at tilslutte sig dette forslag.
We therefore hope that the Council will tackle this proposal as soon as possible, preferably at its meeting next week on 16 June.
Jeg mener, at de, for hvem landbruget virkelig er en hjertesag, uden videre kan stemme for det, også selv om der er tale om en meget beskeden, en meget enkel ordning, men så får vi da endelig en ordning overhovedet.
Some people are concerned about higher costs arising from these very strict rules on waste shipments and disposal.
Deres forgænger havde ikke løst spørgsmålet fra hr. Hord om, hvorvidt Kommissionen ville tage stilling til hele procedurens legalitet. Jeg skal også erindre Deres forgænger i formandssædet om, at spørgsmålet om tilbagevisning til udvalget ikke blev behandelt i sidste måned.
Mrs Le Roux (COM). — (FR) Mr President, the debate on the Commission's proposal concerning the shipment of hazardous wastes within the Community has been given especial significance by the case of the dioxin from Seveso.
Jeg foreslog det og fik at vide, at det kun først foreslås, når forhandlingen var i gang.
This matter has come as a great shock to the people concerned, but without a shadow of doubt it is only the tip of the iceberg.
Formanden. — Hr. Purvis har anmodet om tilbagevisning til udvalget.
Some speakers, Mr President, have said it will be difficult and take longer to have the Council pass a regulation than a directive.
Jeg vil gerne høre, hvad ordføreren mener.
Nonetheless we believe that Parliament should vote in favour of a regulation.
Det er nemlig ikke rigtigt, at de nationale ordninger fortsat vil blive opretholdt. Vi ved, at der allerede har været vanskeligheder med Domstolen, som har hængt netop disse forskellige nationale ordninger ud og kritiseret dem og praktisk talt sat dem ud af kraft.
What are the quantities of toxic wastes and substances — there is no need to distinguish between wastes and substances, since their effects are the same — that are transported in this way without any special controls, without any distinctive markings on the vehicle, without the driver even knowing what he is carrying?
Nu er tiden endelig kommet til, at en fællesskabsordning etableres, som gælder i lige grad for alle medlems stater.
Is it not time to put an end to this industrial secrecy, which is inimical to personal safety and the integrity of the natural environment ?
Dalsass (PEE), ordforer. — (DE) Hr. formand, den foregående formand har allerede så at sige klaret hr. Hords spørgsmål, idet han sagde til mig, at jeg ikke behøvede at tage stilling til anmodningen, men skulle
He has already done so in the participation proce dures proposed by myself and accepted by this House
Dalsass begynde med min betænkning. Fra den gruppe er vi jo vant til vanskeligheder, og vi har forventet vanskeligheder, når det drejer sig om engelske interesser.
Le Roux constructively, making a great many suggestions and proposing constructive amendments, most of which we shall incorporate in our proposal.
Men jeg vil bede Dem om én ting: Der blev netop udtalt det ønske, at Kommission skulle tage stilling hertil.
always known, because of all this industrial secrecy ?
Formanden. — Jeg var ikke i salen, da min forgænger i formandsstolen traf sin afgørelse, men jeg har netop fået oplyst, at der blev anmodet om Kommissionens stillingtagen til det juridiske aspekt af spørgsmålet, og at det var dét, hr. Pflimlin afgjorde.
But I should also like to take this opportunity to refer to the incident that sparked off the public debate on the risks inherent in waste management : the handling of the Seveso waste.
Jeg har nu selv modtaget en anmodning fra hr. Purvis om tilbagevisning til udvalg.
I agree with all the speakers who have again mentioned this incident, and we would be particularly grateful if, rather than leaving it at this one aspect, we managed to make real changes in the general policy on all aspects of waste management.
Jeg respekterer forretningsordenen, som siger, at jeg skal høre ordføreren, udvalgsformanden, derefter en taler for, en taler imod, og derefter går man til afstemning.
It is an area of enormous potential danger if we fail to recognize the sources of this danger, bring them under control and introduce appropriate legislation to govern them.
Hr. Purvis har overensstemmelse med artikel 85 bedt mig at afbryde forhandlingen og tilbagevise betænkningen til udvalget.
We therefore set very great store by the earliest possible adoption and entry into force of the proposed Community system.
Det bad jeg om Deres stillingtagen til.
The time factor has top priority for us.
Sutra (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg forstår fuldt ud Deres synspunkt, men jeg mener, at dette skulle ske inden forhandlingen blev åbnet.
This is what we had in mind when amending the motion for a resolution presented to us.
Men skal netop vente, indtil forhandlingen er anmeldt eller til under selve forhandlingen, for det hedder meget klart i artikel 85:
This further anomaly of this capitalist firm could have led to a further tragedy, and that is not acceptable.
Dalsass (PPE), ordforer. — (DE) Hr. formand, alle rede i marts tilbageviste Parlamentet denne betænk ning til vedkommende, udvalg.
No, it is not acceptable that a preoccupation with making the biggest and most immediate profit possible should be allowed to lead to such proceedings.
Det havde altså slet ikke mere at tilføje.
It is right that there should be common rules which leave no loopholes.
Derfor er der overhovedet ikke nogen mening- i endu en gang at tilbagevise denne betænk ning til det ansvarlige udvalg.
Compromise is out of the question when the future of humanity and its environment is at stake !
Jeg mener, at hr. Purvis har givet en i hvert fald ufuldstændig redegørelse for, hvad Deres forgænger i formandsstolen sagde.
Of this, 20 to 30 m tonnes must be classified as toxic, and therefore hazardous, waste and is consequently governed by the 1978 directive.
Hr. Pflimlin sagde meget klart og præcist: Parlamentet vedtog i sidste mødeperiode at optage denne betænkning på dags ordenen for denne mødeperiode.
About 10 % of these toxic, hazardous wastes, or 2 to 3 m tonnes, is transported across frontiers for disposal or treatment, and the quantity is on the increase.
Det var, hvad hr. Pflimlin sagde, og jeg beklager, at man benytter sig af et personskifte i formandsstolen til to gange med ti minutters mellemrum at fremføre de samme procedurespørgsmål. Hvis vi indfører den slags skikke ...
As an illustration, if we convert this quantity into 10-tonne lorry loads, it means that there are 200,000 to 300,000 road transport operations involving toxic wastes across European frontiers every year.
Formanden. — Nej, hr. Sutra, det er ikke det, det drejer sig om.
With pollution, there can be no miracles.
Sutra (S). — (FR) Jamen nej, hr. formand, jeg mener, at dette spørgsmål blev afgjort af hr. Pflimlin, og at De nu ikke længere har ret til at sætte det under afstemning!
This is in fact in line with the charter for the environment proposed in 1979 by the French Communist Members.
Jeg er aldeles imod det, og jeg mener, at vi bør høre forretningsordensudvalget, hvis De har hensigt at sætte det under afstemning.
We shall therefore be voting in favour of Mrs van Hemeldonck's motion for a resolution and hoping that the constructive amendments which we have tabled will receive the support of our colleagues.
Vi har forelagt den for alle de øvrige udvalg.
(Applause from the left)
Skal vi gøre det samme endnu en gang og så fore lægge den igen i juli, hvor den så atter ved hjælp af forretningsordenstricks bliver udsat til dommedag?
What we therefore need as soon as possible is directly applicable Community legislation that prevents the recurrence of such incidents.
Som næstformand i landbrugsudvalget må jeg virkelig protestere imod denne fremgangsmåde. Det gør vort arbejde her fuldstændig meningsløst.
Consequently, the Commission in principle shares the view of Parliament's Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection that a regulation is a more appropriate legal instrument for this purpose than a directive.
De kan ikke sætte noget under afstemning, som hr. Pflimlin afgjorde for ti minuter siden.
Something which originally caused me to hesitate, the fact that provision cannot be made in a regulation for more stringent penal legislation, will now form the subject of further discussions on a separate legal act designed to induce the Member States to tighten up
Jeg må insistere på, hr. formand, at De følger min anmodning om en kontrol af beslutningsdygtigheden.
Community taking action relating specifically to dangerous substances.
Hord (ED). — Hr. formand, i overensstemmelse med artikel 70, stk. 3, anmoder jeg om at få beslutnings dygtigheden konstateret.
Considerable progess has already been made in the preparations for this.
Formanden. — Kære kollega, jeg konstaterer at der er ti medlemmer, der støtter Dem.
The appropriate Directorate-General tells us that a proposal on the transport aspects of this subject matter can be submitted in early 1984.
Luster (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, jeg er af den opfattelse, at det principielt ikke kan accepteres, at en gruppe anmoder om konstatering af beslutningsdygtigheden og derpå modarbejder det ved, at dens medlemmer forlader salen.
and amend their penal law so that, as a general rule at least, serious offences are punished with imprisonment rather than being treated as no more than minor breaches of the rules.
Det ville være det samme som hvis en anklaget for retten, der havde dræbt sin far og mor, påberåber sig formildende omstændigheder, fordi han nu er forældreløs !
We have not quite completed our deliberations on this, but as it has no place in a regulation, it will form the subject of a separate legal act.
Konstatering af beslutnings dygtigheden kan man i øvrigt forlange i aften ved afstemningen.
You also prefer an authorization procedure to the notification we propose.
Der foreligger to forslag: forslaget om tilbagevisning til udvalget og forslaget om konstatering af beslutningsdygtigheden.
The notification we propose would also entail confirmation of entry or, if necessary, the lodging of an objection at the time of the notification.
Det sidste forslag kan efter min fortolkning — hvori jeg følger udvalget for forretningsordenen og for andragender — først stilles, når der stemmes om betænkningen.
If we went further than this and formalized the procedure by having a special authorization procedure for wastes from third countries, we would expose ourselves to the criticism of discriminating within the Community in favour of undertakings in a given Member State and against undertakings from other Member States.
Jeg har hørt ordføreren om det, og jeg har også hørt én, der var imod tilbagevisningen.
That is the subtle difference between our notification procedure, under which approval is in fact required and objections can be made, and the authorization procedure proposed by the committee.
Formanden. — De har fuldstændig ret, hr. Dalsass. Men desværre har Parlamentet udsat denne fortolkning.
The Commission cannot unfortunately agree to one of the requests made by the House.
Men jeg følger fortolkningen fra udvalget for forretningsordenen og for andragender og vil gå frem derefter.
The representatives of the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and of the Committee on Transport have already advanced a wide range of arguments in this respect.
Gautier (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, jeg forstår slet ikke, hvorfor vi ikke skulle tillade konstatering af beslutningsdygtigheden, for den vedrører da klart hr. Purvis' anmodning om tilbagevisning af betænkningen til udvalget.
The Commis sion takes the view that dangerous substances and goods in general and their transfrontier transport are already governed by numerous provisions : inter national conventions, Community directives and national legislation and administrative provisions.
Hvis der ikke er beslutningsdygtighed vedrørende denne anmodning, hvad vi nemt kan konstatere, fortsætter forhandlingen bare!
I would merely remind you, for example, of the various debates the House has had on Directive No 27/67 on the classification, packaging and labelling of dangerous substances with particular reference to the sixth directive amending this 1967 directive.
De kan altså roligt konstatere, at der ikke er beslutningsdygtighed, så vi kan fortsætte forhandlingen.
It is, in short, a very general directive designed to protect the environment and public health against dangerous substances.
Dalsass (PPE), ordfører. — (DE) Jeg vil gerne forklare hr. Gautier, hvorfor vi ikke kan gå med til det.
Another major principle you wish to see adopted in the proposal is that as a general rule hazardous waste must be disposed of in the country in which it arises so as to reduce the number of movements across frontiers.
Prout (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, med al respekt må jeg være uenig med Dem i Deres fortolkning vedrørende beslutningsdygtighed ved afstemning om procedurespørgsmål.
The transfrontier transport of dangerous substances is governed by a number of international conventions, which also apply to the transport of dangerous goods.
Uanset hvad Parlamentet vedtager med hensyn til artikel 85, stk. 2, siger udvalget for forretningsordenen og for andragender udtrykkeligt in sin fortolkning, der er offentliggjort den 17. maj 1983 (PE 84.967), at reglerne vedrørende beslutnings dygtighed ikke kun omfatter basistekster, men også indlæg til forretningsordenen.
These international conventions have similarly resulted in the adoption of national implementing legislation in the various Member States and have thus created a kind of legal system, which we cannot, however, consider completely adequate.
Jeg vil mene, at De er nødt til at konstatere beslutningsdygtighed om dette procedurespørgsmål, ganske uanset resultatet vedrørende den dobbelte beslutningsdygtighed in henhold til artikel 85, stk. 2, for det er et spørgsmål, der kun opstår efter at der er blevet anmodet om konstatering af beslutningsdygtigheden ved to afstemninger om proceduren.
If this extremely complex area, with its wide range of provisions and the changes it would necessitate, was included in the Commission proposal we are now discussing, it is unlikely that an early decision would be taken on Community legislation on hazardous wastes or that it would enter into force in the near future.
Hord (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg må protestere, når hr. Dalsass siger, at jeg laver numre.
If we include the whole area of transport policy, I estimate that it will take another year at least.
Jeg synes, hr. Dalsass bør forstå, at der er medlemmer i Parlamentet, som er meget optaget af bestemte forslag, der forelægges, og grunden til, at vi forsøger
To give a practical example, it is surely better for hazardous waste arising here in Strasbourg to be disposed of in a suitable industrial plant near the frontier on the other side of the Rhine than for it to be transported 400 or 500 km to the South of France simply to satisfy the requirement that it be disposed of in the country in which it arises.
Det står der, merç han læser ikke hele teksten, på samme måde som advokaterne undertiden plejer at gøre det i de små
Nor do they exclude the possibility of the
Dalsass (PPE), ordforer. — (DE) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne anmode Dem om at gøre fortolkningen fra udvalget for forretningsordenen og for andragender til Deres, også selv om Parlamentet endnu ikke har udtalt sig om den.
President. — The next item is the second report by Mr Dalsass, on behalf of the Committee on Agriculture, on
Jeg prætenderer ikke at være ufejlbarlig, jeg kan tage fejl, men jeg må sige til Dem, at artikel 85 bestemmer, at man til ethvert tidspunkt kan foreslå tilbagevisning til udvalg.
I should like to pick out three, which concern sanctions, liability and the fixing of a restricted number of border crossingpoints.
Imidlertid beslutter formanden, der er ansvarlig for afviklingen af arbejdet, hvornår denne afstemning faktisk skal finde sted, som hr. Luster sagde.
As regards the sanctions, I have already mentioned that we too are in favour of severe penalties in serious cases.
Jeg må nu virkelig appellere specielt til briterne om fair play, sådan som jeg forstår deres parlamentariske tradition.
As for liability, we agree to Parliament's suggestion that a stringent liability provision should be added, whereby the conventional liability for negligence would be replaced by the stricter form of the manufacturer's absolute liability.
De har gode grunde til at ønske til bagevisning til udvalget, og De må i den henseende rette Dem efter Parlamentets afgørelse.
Incidentally, I should stress that in 1976 the Commission proposed absolute liability in a proposal for a directive on toxic and dangerous waste, but most of the Member States disagreed at that time and would not accept this proposal.
Giv det lejlighed til med fuldt kendskab til sagen at udtale sig ved afstemningen, og lad os nu fortsætte debatten.
We hope that now, with recent events still fresh in their minds, the majority will approve absolute liability.
Hord (ED). — (EN) Til forretningsordenen, hr. formand ...
Mr Hord (ED). — Mr President, I rise on a point of order in connection with the Dalsass report and more particularly the Commission's proposals for an ethyl alcohol regulation.
Luster (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, vi har her at gøre med en procedure i henhold til artikel 85 og ikke i henhold til artikel 84. Der står i artikel 84, andet afsnit, at afstemning straks skal ske.
In this connection, in view of the fact that Parliament's own Legal Affairs Committee has come to certain conclusions on parts of the Commission's own proposals — and in particular Article 8 (3) and Article 9 — would it not be appropriate, having regard to the fact that the Commission's proposals do not conform to the Treaty, that the Commission should take back their proposals or at least that they should be taken back to committee so that the relevant committees can discuss with Commission officials those areas of the Commission's proposals which are in contravention of the Treaty ?
Det står der imidlertid ikke i artikel 85, hvoraf man kan drage den konklusion, at ved anmodninger i overeensstemmelse med artikel 85 ligger det i formandens hånd, hvornår afstemningen skal finde sted.
Perhaps, Mr President, you will be kind enough to ask the Commission whether they will be prepared to respond in that regard ?
Formanden. — Det er rigtigt, hr. Luster, det kan jeg ikke modsige.
President. — Mr Hord, I must point out that the objection you have just made has already been raised at an earlier sitting.
Med al respekt mener jeg, at dette er en krænkelse af forretningsordenen, for tidligere anvendte vi artikel 85 uden for forhandlingen, og vi fik konkret at vide, at artikel 85 kun havde gyldighed under forhandlingen.
If the supervision of the transfrontier transport of waste is to be improved, it is undoubtedly important for staff at crossing-points to be appropriately trained, and this may not be the case at more than a few crossingpoints at present.
Det er det, vi gør i dag — vi påberåber os artikel 85 under forhandlingen — og nu siger De fra formandstolen, at det er imod forretningsordenen.
But it must be ensured — and we attach great importance to this — that these crossingpoints are designated only with the Commission's approval.
Hvordan kan det være imod forretningsordenens regler både uden for og under forhandlingerne?
The Commission cannot agree to unilateral national decisions.
De fornægter en af Parlamentets vigtige regler ved ikke at acceptere denne fremgangsmåde, og jeg er bange for, hr. formand, at Deres adfærd vil føre til en alvorlig misbilligelse af formandskabet for at lade hånt om Parlamentets forretningsorden.
Other amendments seek more accurate wording for the provisions on labelling, packaging, insurance and safety, and notification and accompanying documents.
Formanden. — Hr. Hord, mit svar til Dem er, at den dag en eller anden mener, at jeg har krænket forretningsordenen, indgiver jeg min demission som næstformand i Parlamentet.
The Commission will either incorporate these amendments or take account of them in the implementing regulation.
Jeg har udtrykkelig sagt, at vi stemmer om denne anmodning om tilbagevisning til udvalget ved afstemningen i aften om andre tekster.
As we now have the regulation as the basis, appropriate technical details must be included in the implementing regulation.
Da en anmodning i overensstemmelse med artikel 85 altså skal fremsættes under forhandlingen, skal afstemningen om en sådan anmodning ligeledes finde sted under forhandlingen, dvs. når artikel 85 faktisk påberåbes.
Mr Dalsass (PPE), rapporteur. — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, it is right that we should be debating this report today, because we considered this procedural question in March.
Vayssade (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg skal erindre vore britiske kolleger om, at under sidste møde periode foreslog udvalget for forretningsordenen en fortolkning, i henhold til hvilken man straks skulle
I should like briefly to revert to the contents of my report, which dates back to 1972.