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Hvis der ikke er balance i et budget og Rådet enes om en udligningsmekanisme for at udjævne denne manglende balance, så er det fuldstændig absurd af Pfen-nig-betænkingen at foreslå, at der skal være en tids plan for udligningsmekanisme, som ikke har noget at gøre med, hvornår den manglende balance er udjævnet.
If there is an imbalance in a budget and a corrective mechanism is agreed by the Council to put that imbalance right, then it is absolutely absurd for the Pfennig report to be proposing that there should be a time-scale for the corrective mechanism irrespective of when the imbalance is removed.
Enten er der en manglende balance, eller også er der det ikke, og så skal udligningsmekanismen virke, indtil den ikke længere er nødvendig, eller også anerkendes den manglende balance ikke. Mange talere her i salen lader ikke til at anerkende den, men det gjorde Rådet, jeg gør det, og jeg ved, at Storbritanniens vælgere gør det.
Either the imbalance is an imbalance and the corrective mechanism should operate until it is no longer necessary, or the imbalance is not recognized.
Så om ikke af andre grunde håber jeg, at folk vil være imod Pfennig-betænkningen simpelt hen på grund af den 3 års skæringsdato for Storbritanniens 66% nedsættelse af nettomomsbidragene.
So, if for no other reason at all, I hope that people will object to the Pfennig report simply because of the three year cut-off point for Britain's 66% reduction in VAT net contributions.
Der er også andre indvendinger.
There are other objections too.
Det britiske spørgsmål er måske et problem for en enkelt med lemsstat i dag, men i princippet kan det blive et problem for enhver medlemsstat i morgen.
Incidentally, the British question may be a problem for one Member State today, but in principle it could be a problem for any Member State tomorrow.
Så jeg håber, at vi ikke udelukker nogen blot af den grund.
So I hope that we will not
Jeg tror for resten, at de nationale parlamenter vil tage hensyn til ting, som desværre alt for få talere i debatten indtil nu blot har så meget som tænkt på at nævne.
Thirdly and finally, all our governments are experiencing budgetary difficulties, as we are aware.
Hr. Tugendhat er imod Pfennig-betænkningen, Rådet i Fontainebleau er imod Pfennig-betænkningen, og jeg er imod Pfennigbetænkningen. Jeg håber derfor meget, at Parlamentet ikke vil være så dumdristigt at stille sig på Pfennig-betænkningens side og endnu en gang gå imod strømmen af offentlig og institutionel mening i EØF.
We fully appreciate this, but we urge the Council of Ministers not to lose sight of two facts: first, that the budget of the Community corresponds to roughly 2.5% of the aggregate total of our national budgets; second and most important, that the transfer of national expenditure to the Community does not make for an increase in costs but on the contrary, as long as it is accompa-
Mallet (PPE). - (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne fremsætte tre bemærkninger til den betydningsfulde og udmærkede betænkning af Pfennig, ordfører for budgetudvalget; vi kan i alt væsentligt gå ind for ret ningslinjerne i den.
Mallet nied by sound management, provides scope for econ omies through the elimination of duplication as a result of the improved efficiency brought by the pooling of effort.
let, vil det så virkelig have, at Rådet skal tage det alvorligt?
isters. The special provision for the United Kingdom has provided such a weapon.
Parlamentet har før Fontainebleauaftalen i beslut ning efter beslutning understreget det presserende i at hæve momsloftet.
It has had the advantage that the adverse effect of using it was felt by only one Member State.
Er der virkelig nogen, som seriøst tror på, at en helt ny aftale kan forhandles, og ratifikationen færdiggøres inden udgangen af 1985?
Each time that one Member State has felt a great sense of unfairness about the Parliament's actions.
Løsningen skal som foreslået i betænkningen søges inden for rammerne af en varig og virkelig fælles ordning vedrørende økonomisk kompensation.
If we want the Community to be able to honour its commitments, discharge its responsibilities and meet the challenges of the future, it must be provided with the means, not merely to survive, but to live and therefore grow.
Hr. formand, jeg mener ikke, at det er i overensstemmelse med de mål, Parlamentet har sat sig, og som jeg deler, at det indtager en så urealistisk holdning til Pfennig-beslutningsforslaget.
In my view, it is time for this Parliament to attempt to re-establish confidence, and that is what the link between the duration of 1.4% VAT and the UK measures provides.
Og det skal ske inden udgangen af 1985.
IN THE CHAIR: MR MØLLER
Denne afgørelse om en forøgelse af de egne indtægter må ikke gøres betinget.
I ask this Parliament to recognize that it is in the inter ests of the Community as a whole to re-establish this confidence.
Navnlig forekommer det mig uklogt at foretage en sammenkobling — »Junktim« som det hedder på tysk — mellem forøgelsen af de egne indtægter og udvidelsen af Fællesskabet.
It is an essential prerequisite to making faster progress in what I see as our common purpose to build a united Europe.
Der skal naturligvis, når tiden er inde, tages hensyn til de finansielle virkninger af udvidelsen, hvilket givet vil kræve en forhøjelse af den ensartede procentsats af momsen, der går til Fællesskabets budget, ud over det til 1,6% fastsatte loft.
Mr Chambeiron (COM). — (FR) Mr President, it is now well known that the budgetary procedure is regularly exploited by the majority in this House as a means of strengthening its political powers and extending its areas of competence, more often than not beyond the scope of those conferred by the Trea-
Jeg deler visse af hr. von der Vrings og hr. Langes bekymringer.
Mr Price (ED). — Mr President, if Parliament adopts the amendments that have been proposed by the Com mittee on Budgets, does it really intend the Council to take it seriously?
Jeg beklager, at der er special-foran-staltninger for Det forenede Kongerige og Tyskland. Jeg ville meget foretrække, at der var en general me kanisme for ethvert land, som stod over for en uacceptabel situation.
The amendments change most of the essential ingredients of the Fontainebleau Agreement.
Men vi bør ikke påstå, som hr. von der Vring gjorde, at dette er udtryk for et skridt mod juste retour.
We for our part are not prepared to countenance this headlong rush into budgetary expansion any more than the parallel rush into institutional expansion, both of which are being used to circumvent the real problems. lems.
Det forenede Kongerige vil vedblive med at være den ene af kun to hovedbidragydere til Fællesskabets budget.
The Parliament has stressed in resolution after resolution before the Fontainebleau Agreement the urgency of rainsing the VAT ceiling.
Det vil fortsætte med at bære en byrde, som er langt større end dets andel af Fællesskabets velstand.
Even now there is doubt whether all the national ratification procedures will be completed in time.
Sagen er, at vort budget gør det modsatte af det, vi forventer af vore nationale budgetter.
Does anyone seriously believe that a completely fesh agreement could be negotiated and the ratification completed by the end of 1985?
Det er et regressivt snarere end et progressivt budget, og det eneste, de specielle bestemmelser med hensyn til Det forenede Kongerige gør, er at mildne de værste følger af denne uretfærdighed.
However, we are fully aware how important the financing of the Community is and therefore appreciate the need for an increase in resources, since the availability of additional resources to a large extent conditions continuation of the process of European integration, but at the same time we are not prepared to see this done at the expense of the farmers.
Tredje og sidste bemærkning : alle vore regeringer har som bekendt vanskeligheder med budgettet.
Mr President, I do not believe it is in keeping with this Parliament's aspirations for itself, which I share, for it to adopt such an unrealistic position on the basis of the Pfennig resolution.
Det for står vi godt, men vi anmoder Rådet om ikke at tabe to ting af syne : for det første at Fællesskabets budget udgør ca. 2,5% af summen af de nationale budgetter, dernæst og navnlig at overførsel af nationale udgifter til Fællesskabet ikke medfører en forøgelse af byrder ne, men tværtimod — dersom den ledsages af en for nuftig forvaltning — gør det muligt at gennemføre besparelser, fordi det undgås at gøre den samme ting to gange takket være den øgede effektivitet, der opnås gennem en fælles indsats.
With the exhaustion of resources as from 1984 con fronting it with the need to replenish Community finances, the European Council at Fontainebleau decided to lift the 1 % VAT ceiling, while at the same time perpetuating the handouts to the United Kingdom, whose pressure has once again paid off.
Gennem de sidste tre år har Parlamentet haft få våben til rådighed i sine mange stridigheder med Ministerrådet.
What the Commission is proposing to us is basically a translation of the Fontainebleau decisions into legal and regulatory terms.
Den specielle foranstaltning til Det forenede Kongerige har givet os et sådant våben.
I share some of the concerns of Mr von der Vring and Mr Langes, I regret that there are special provisions relating to the United Kingdom and Germany.
Det har haft den fordel, at skadevirkningen ved at bruge det kun kunne mærkes af én medlemsstat.
I would much prefer that there be a general mechanism for any country facing an unacceptable situation.
Dette våben har været brugt adskillige gange.
But we should not claim, as Mr von der Vring did, that this represents a move to juste retour.
Hver gang har denne ene medlemsstat følt, at der var noget meget uretfærdigt i Parlamentets handlinger.
The United Kingdom will remain one of only two major net con tributors to the Community budget.
Vil vi, at Fællesskabet skal kunne opfylde sine forpligtelser, på tage sig sit ansvar og tage fremtidens opfordringer op, må vi give det midler ikke til at overleve, men til at leve og vokse.
The fact is that our Community budget does the opposite of what we expect of our national budgets.
Efter min opfattelse er det på tide, at Parlamentet forsøger at få genoprettet tilliden, og det er det, sam menhængen mellem varigheden af 1,4% momsen og foranstaltningerne til Det forenede Kongerige giver os.
It is a regressive budget rather than a progressive budget, and all that the special provisions for the United Kingdom do is to mitigate the worst effects of that unfairness.
Price (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, hvis Parlamentet vedtager de ændringsforslag, budgetudvalget har stil-
Over the last three years this Parliament has had few weapons in its many diputes with the Council of Min
lesskabspræferencen, som hvert år koster mellem 20 og 25 milliarder francs, kunne åbne mulighed for en frigørelse af nye finansielle midler samtidig med, at det ville fremme udviklingen af produktioner på fællesskabsbasis.
By way of conclusion, Mr President, I should like to offer an answer to the question that the public are justifiably asking.
Kommissionen tog et første skridt i den retning, da den foreslog en afgift på plantefedt.
Additional resources for the Com munity budget?
Rådet bør tage dette forslag op og gennemføre det.
Very well, but for what purpose?
Vi siger for vort vedkommende nej til dette spring fremad på budgetområdet — som i øvrigt går hånd i hånd med et tilbageskridt på det institutionelle område — idet begge bruges til at komme uden om de egentlige problemer.
Nor can there be any question, as far as we are concerned, of going along with the majority in this House, which each year creates new lines in the budget, the appropriations for which are often underutilized or serve merely as artificial means of effecting transfers between States; this waste, which has in fact been recognized as such by the European Court of Auditors, can be avoided by reforms in the financing machinery based on new criteria for the allocation and use of appropriations.
Men vi er fuldt ud klar over, hvor vigtigt spørgsmålet om finansieringen af Fællesskabet er, dvs. en forøgelse af ressourcerne, for de er den væsentlige forudsætning for den fortsatte opbygning af Europa, men vi kan ikke gå ind for, at den gennemføres på landbrugernes bekostning.
We have no objection in principle to an increase in the VAT contributions, on condition that it is moderate, that it is modulated according to Member States' wealth by reference to GDP per capita, and above all that, contrary to what is proposed in the Pfennig report, anything above 1.4% is ratified by the national parliaments. .This we consider to be an essential safe guard against the risk of budgetary expenditure being allowed to creep up, since the majority in this House is too often tempted in this direction.
Med det dobbelte formål at finansiere fællesskabs budgettet og at modstå presset fra dollaren tager vi i form af ændringsforslag et forslag op, som blev frem sat af den græske premierminister Papandreou, da han var formand for Rådet, om at lægge en afgift på eksport af kapital ud over et vist loft.
One last sentence, Mr President. It is therefore possible as of now to set the Community budget on a course aimed at the objectives of economic expansion and employment, strengthening of the common com mercial policy to counter the pressure from the United States, real incentives to encourage industrial cooperation, and solidarity with the poorer countries.
Med denne analyse som udgangspunkt mener vi, det er på tide at sørge for, at det, vi kalder afpresning fra Det forenede Kongeriges side, mislykkes, idet den gavestrøm, dette land fejlagtigt nyder godt af, bringes til ophør, navnlig da det ikke engang har tilbagebetalt den milliard ECU endnu, som det fik for meget i regnskabsårene 1980 og 1981.
In the throes of the present budgetary crisis, we must look at every possibility. There are far too many derogations from Community preference, costing between 20 and 25 billion francs each year, and their gradual elimination would make new financial resources available while at the same time promoting the development of Community production.
Ret beset foreslår Kommissionen os en juridisk og reglementeret tilpasning af Fontainebleau-aftalerne.
A first step in this direction was taken by the Commission when it proposed taxation of vegetable oils.
Europa-Parlamentet må endnu engang vise beslut somhed, da der ellers er risiko for, at de britiske krav øges, som forgifter atmosfæren i Fællesskabet; Parlamentet må navnlig stå fast, når det gælder den fælles landbrugspolitik, og det skal ske via budgetdisciplinen. nen.
In reality the Community budget takes account of expenditure which is designed to provide incentives and to support a number of industries, agriculture, commerce, the Regional Fund and the Social Fund. However, given this compulsory expenditure, we must find the necessary resources to cover it.
Vi er enige i den del af budgetudvalgets kritik af Kommissionens forslag, for Kommissionen overholder ikke de retningslinjer for Europa-Parlamentet, som er fastlagt i Arndt-betænkningen fra 1983; det gælder navnlig princippet om juste retour og udbygningen af den fælles politik, som ifølge betænkningen alene gør det muligt at løse problemet med den manglende balance på budgettet.
With the twofold aim of providing finance for the Community budget and resisting pressure from the dollar, we have tabled amendments taking up a suggestion which was made by the Greek Prime Minister, Mr Papandreou, when he was President-in-Off-ice of the Council, a suggestion to tax exports of capital above a certain maximum.
Som afslutning vil jeg besvare det spørgsmål, som den offentlige mening med god grund stiller.
If we wish to increase the proportion met by the various Member States, they will be obliged, if they intend to balance their budgets, to increase taxation, which everyone already finds very heavy.
Ekstra ressourcer til fællesskabsbudgettet? Ja, men til hvad?
And If we wish to attribute responsibility for a given policy to Europe, we must also transfer the necessary resources to Europe.
Dette spild, som Revisionsretten i øvrigt har erkendt, kan undgås gennem en reform af finansieringsordningerne på grundlag af nye kriterier for tildeling og anvendelse af bevillinger.
It is quite out of the question to think that we can call upon Europe to undertake expenditure in excess of the resources that we are able to give it by way of transfer.
Vi afviser ikke princippet om en forhøjelse af momssatsen på betingelse af, at den modereres og udformes i overensstemmelse med de enkelte staters rigdom målt i BNP pr. indbygger, og navnlig på betingelse af at den ratificeres af de nationale parlamenter ud over 1,4% i modsætning til, hvad Pfennig-betænkningen foreslår.
In the light of this analysis, we maintain that it is time to put a stop to what we have called the 'blackmail by the United Kingdom' by calling a halt to the succession of unwarranted presents that it has been receiving, when it has not even refunded the 1 billion ECU overpayments for the financial years 1980 and 1981.
En forhøjelse af momsen er i vore øjne ikke det ene ste middel til at finde nye ressourcer.
From what I have heard, and this opinion is shared by many of us in this Chamber, Fontainebleau was a flop, a monumental flop.
I den øjeblikke lige budgetkrise må alle midler tages i brug.
Things were promised, but people expected others to pay for them.
En grad vis ophævelse af de alt for mange afvigelser fra fæl
In common with an earlier speaker, I believe that it has to be appreciated that the Fontainebleau agreement needs to be reviewed.
Det er muligt allerede nu at styre fællesskabsbudgettet i retning af et økonomisk og beskæftigelsesmæssigt opsving, i ret ning af en styrkelse af den fælles handelspolitik for at gøre en ende på det amerikanske pres, samt i retning af et virkeligt incitament til industrielt samarbejde og solidaritet med de fattige lande.
The House should once again make a firm stand, since otherwise we shall see still more insistent demands from the United Kingdom, and these will continue to poison the Community atmosphere, with the CAP in particular coming under fire, this on the grounds of budgetary discipline.
Wolff (L). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, jeg må hellere først fremsætte nogle bemærkninger, for jeg har på fornemmelsen, at meget, om ikke alt, er blevet sagt.
Wolff representatives of Venstre to tell us what they intend to offer as a replacement for the Community funds which cannot be increased any further.
Men til disse obligatoriske udgifter må vi finde de ressourcer, der er nødvendige for at dække dem.
How are the Danish farmers to adjust to the new agricultural ceiling?
For øjeblikket er det medlemsstaterne, der som forskud indbetaler disse ressourcer, som de tager af deres egne ressourcer.
What are your proposals for the independent agricultural policy which must now supplement the Community arrangements or, even better as far as I am concerned, replace them?
Kan Venstres repræsentanter ikke forklare, hvad det er, man har fået ud af nattens udsalg, og give landmændene en ordentlig forklaring på, hvad de nu kan vente sig?
Someone said earlier that it is necessary to obtain the means with which to pursue the policies proposed; it is absolutely essential.
Hvad bliver resultatet af budgetloftet for landbrugsudgifter?
But, as we are all agreed, Europe must be built; it is worth the effort.
Et kolossalt slagsmål mellem sydeuropæiske og nordeuropæiske landbrug. Når man ikke længere kan finansiere merproduktionen ved flere EF-midler, vil kampen stå om, hvorvidt EF-penge-ne skal anvendes til vinsøer eller til smørbjerge, til olivenolielagre eller til skummetmælkspulverfabrikker, til nordeuropæiske eller sydeuropæiske land brugsprodukter.
Parliament is con cerned to see harmonious progress, not disputes.
Hvis vi vil øge de forskellige medlemsstaters andel, må de — dersom de vil bevare balancen på deres budget — forhøje skatterne, som alle allerede finder meget tunge.
Mr James Elles (ED). — Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, a large number of speakers in this debate have condemned the conclusions of Fontainebleau, which were the culmination of months of prolonged debate in the Council of Ministers.
Og hvis vi vil overføre en fastlagt poli tik til Europa, må vi også overføre de dertil nødvendige ressourcer til Europa.
Despite their imperfect nature, I wish to record my support this afternoon, in general terms, for these conclusions, for two essential reasons.
Når Spanien og Portugal kommer ind i kulden fra 1. januar 1986, som det jo stadig planlægges, vil det nordeuropæiske flertal i Ministerrådet tippe til fordel for dem, der ønsker mest støtte til de sydeuropæiske landbrugsprodukter.
First, I believe they provide a step in the right direction to enable Member States' contributions to the Com munity budget to be based on their ability to pay.
Det er vel egentlig heller ikke urimeligt, men dermed er det altså slut med de danske forestillinger om et EF, som kunne løse landmændenes indtægtsproblemer.
Nothing over the next few years could be more debilitating for politicians and top civil servants than to con tinue to discuss small sums of this kind.
I 1983 tjente dansk landbrug 43% af indtægten i 1972 i faste priser.
Linking the United Kingdom abatement with the duration of the 1.4% ceiling provides a vital element of automaticity.
EF-ordningerne har ikke været nogen løsning for dansk landbrug, og derfor vil jeg gerne opfordre Venstres repræsentanter til at sige, hvad de vil sætte i stedet for de EF-midler, som ikke længere kan forøges.
It has, in effect, the value of a permanent solution as it becomes part, in the future, of the acquis communautaire. taire.
Hvordan skal danske landmænd indrette sig efter det nye landbrugsloft?
I belive the Com mission proposal accurately represents them.
Hvad er jeres bud på den selvstændige landbrugspolitik, der nu må supplere EF-ordningerne eller for min skyld endnu bedre afløse dem?
I cannot, therefore, associate myself with the Pfennig report in its criticism of the Commission's interpretation of Fontainebleau, and will thus vote against the resolution in this respect.
Efter hvad jeg har hørt — og mange her deler denne opfattelse — var Fontainebleau et fejlslag, et kæmpe fejlslag.
Mr Bonde (ARC). — (DA) Mr President, I should like to use my speaking time to address the members of the Venstre Party in this Assembly.
Der blev givet løfter, som man forventede, at de andre finansierede.
It is in fact the party for which the majority of my compatriots vote and whose Foreign Minister and party chairman has tonight given his backing to a scheme under which my compatriots in future may expect less in returns than they have been able to get under Community arrange ments in force up to now.
Som det blev nævnt for et øjeblik siden, tror jeg, man må gøre sig klart, at Fontainebleau-aftalerne skal revideres.
How can Venstre go along with the fixing of ceilings to agricultural expenditure in the Community?
Det er bare bluff at sige, at Europa gør alt for at lette hvert enkelt lands indenrigspolitik.
How can they go along with the so-called budgetary discipline which, after all does not in any way mean that the intention is now to save the Community's resources?
De nødvendige ressourcer skal betales og — jeg gentager — overføres.
On the contrary, the intention is to save on agriculture in order that so much more can be devoted to all the other new objectives which were not in the Treaty of Rome we voted on in the 1972 Referendum.
Det er blevet nævnt nu i dag, at man skal skaffe sig midlerne til den politik, der foreslås; der er ingen vej udenom.
If only we had obtained some concessions in return, for example if only we had had assurances that the cutbacks in Community expenditure on agriculture would not lead to a new explosion in national support measures which the farmers would have to compete against, or merely that a number of the existing illegal support measures would be removed!
Men Europa, som i alle ser det, skal opbygges; det fortjener, at vi sætter vore bestræbelser ind.
Can the Venstre representatives explain what we have got from the deal concluded tonight and give the farmers a proper explanation of what they can now expect?