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Mansch (S). — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, hr. Spinellis og de andre kollegers betænkning falder i to dele. For det første er der delbetænkningerne af hr. Moreau, hr. Pfennig, hr. Seeler og hr. Prag, der beskriver de fremtidige opgaver for Fælles skabet eller unionen.
Mr Brondlund Nielsen; Mr Adamou; Beazley; Mr de Ferranti; Miss Forster; Gendebien ; Mr Israël; Mr C. Jackson; Kallias ; Mr Kyrkos ; Mr Lahr; Marshall; Mr Newton Dunn; Normanton ; Mr O'Donnell; Mr Paisley;
Så det er det, vi skal stemme om, når vi stemmer for punkt 124.
Mr Davignon : Mrs Phlix ; Mr Davignon ; Mr Marshall ; Mr Davignon
Betænkningerne af hr. De Gucht og hr. Zecchino svarer efter min opfattelse desværre ikke til de krav, som vi måtte stille til et omhyggeligt, afvejet og modent arbejde fra Parlamentet. Vor kritik retter sig altså — det beder jeg om, at man husker på i forbindelse med alt, hvad vi skal diskutere — imod disse to betænkninger inden for Spinelli-betænkningens rammer.
Pedini ; Mr Pin tat ; Mr Puletti ; Sir Brandon Rhys Williams ; Mr Ryan ; Mr J. D. Taylor; Mrs Theobald-Paoli; Mr Vandemeulebroucke; Mr Moreland ; Sir PeterVanneck ; Mr Eyraud ; Mrs Seibel-Emmerling ; Mr Provan; Mr Gautier; Lord Douro; Mr Vernimmen ; Mr Fellermaier ; Mr Tyrrell
Det er dog et centralt spørgsmål, hvem der kan og vil være med i dette fremtidige Europa.
Mr Alavanos; Mr Spinelli; Mr von der Vring; Mr Curry; Mr Aigner; Mr Andriessen essen
Vi ønsker, at vælgerne har noget at vælge, når de kaldes til urnerne. Vi ønsker, at effektiviteten i beslutningsprocessen, at samarbejdet mellem Fællesskabets organer forbedres.
IN THE CHAIR : MR VANDEWIELE of the European Parliament, a parliamentarization of the economic, financial and political decisionmaking procedure of the European Union as desired by us.
Pflimlin (PPE). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, forhandlingen foranlediger mig endnu en gang til at sammenligne forholdene i Europa ved indledningen af udviklingen mod enheden med de nuværende forhold.
I would add a remark on the 'acquis communautaire' (what has been hitherto attained by the Community) : in the context of the economic constitution of the draft report we are currently debating does not resolve the question as to how the call for continuity of the Community, until it is ultimately subsumed in a European Union, is to be achieved with regard to the legal technicalities. There are two ways.
Det er ikke uden en vis sværmerisk nostalgi, at jeg tænker på halvtredsernes begejstring, der knapt fem år efter krigens ophør foranledigede klarsynede og dristige statsmænd til at gå i gang med opbygningen af et samlet Europa.
Either a general reference to existing and subsequent Community law in the general chapter of the European Union constitution, or the most airtight repetition possible of the 'acquis communautaire' built into the constitution itself.
Da jeg har arbejdet sammen med ham, kan jeg huske det mod, han måtte lægge for dagen for at lede fransk politik ind på et helt nyt spor ved i stedet for at foreslå indgåelse af en fredsaftale at foreslå oprettelse af et fællesskab, hvor Tyskland skulle indgå som lige stillet partner med de øvrige stiftende lande.
On a factual basis section 21 comes closest to attaining this but it does not deal with the important question as to whether Article 235 of the Treaty of Rome continues to be applicable ; this Article provides for the introduction of new policies by means of a general clause without the need for amending the Treaty.
Den økonomiske situation i et Europa, der var ruineret af krigen, var værre end den, vi har nu.
I feel this question ought to be answered as work on the draft proceeds.
Jeg vil gerne tale om to ting: for det første afstemningsproceduren — flertalsafstemning selvfølgelig — og dernæst spørgsmålet om suverænitet og overdragelse af suverænitet.
In so doing I am personally less interested in the implementation of idealistic recommendations nor, on the other hand, in resigning oneself to a pragmatic approach with a view to paving the way for approval of our European initiative by councils of ministers and parliaments in their so-called 'realism'.
Og for så vidt kan en objektiv analyse af den situation, vi befinder os i, kun føre de fleste af os til den konklusion, at de onder, som befolkningen lider af, ikke kan helbredes ved de enkelte nationale staters indsats alene, idet de handler hver for sig eller endog i indbyrdes modstrid.
In giving my stamp of approval I am motivated, as is a large majority within my group, by the presence in every chapter of the draft report, of a commitment to, and recommendation for, a strengthening of the influence, powers and rights
Alle her i Parlamentet ved, at Fællesskabet ikke fungerer for øjeblikket, og jeg tror, vi alle ved hvorfor.
Approval of minutes — Documents received — Decisions on urgent procedure : see Minutes of this sitting.
Hvorfor bliver vanskelige beslutninger ikke truffet?
See Debates of 13 September 1983.
Jeg vil ikke rette nogen anklage mod regeringerne. Gamle erfaringer får mig til at forstå, hvor vanskeligt det er for dem at sætte sig ud over rent nationale interesser.
As such I shall devote only a few remarks to the economic chapter.
Faktisk er Europa-Parlamentet i dag ene om at kunne åbne nye perspektiver, der er rettet mod Europas fælles vel.
Without doubt it is among the most important of the report.
Det af udvalget om institutionelle spørgsmål udarbejdede udkast, der er tilskyndet af hr. Spinelli bistået af seks andre ordførere, er måske ikke perfekt.
Mr Moreau justifiably gave pride of place to the internal market and competition aspects, that is, their completion and responsibility for European Union.
Newton Dunn at med det generelle indhold i betænkningen, ændringsforslag ikke ville være tilstrækkelige.
The amendments tabled by me did not, unfortunately, find majority support in committee.
tillid, der er tale on her.
Today we have the first reading.
Jeg tror, at tilliden vil udvikle sig, som årene går, og vi vil blive i stand til at gå videre.
A lot of work was involved and we have yet to render it more tangible and to await the amendments.
Min ven og kollega, hr. Michael Welsh, der talte tidligere, omtalte dette som overdragelse af suverænitet, og han mente, at folk ikke rigtig kunne gå ind for dette.
Mr Welsh (ED). — Mr President, I would not be so presumptuous as to affect to speak for my group, but I would like to make it clear that what I have to say is said entirely for myself.
Det forekommer mig, at denne betænkning på en måde er uhyggelig irrelevant. Det er det nærmeste, vi i euro-vendinger kommer Neros violinspil, medens Rom brændte.
A large Community internal market is the prerequisite for a durable economic recovery, for shaking off the crisis in Europe with its dire consequences for the employment situation and the job opportunities for the young generation.
Vi har 13 mio arbejdsløse i Fælles skabet, vi har krise inden for landbrugssektoren, vi er' næsten gået fallit, vi står over for enorme problemer i vore internationale relationer.
Internal market also presupposes harmonization of the research norms, controls and structures etc. with a view to maintaining our competitiveness as compared with our principal economic partners in the world.
Alligevel er det eneste svar, Parlamentet giver på et sådant tidspunkt, at ideen om et føderalistisk Europa atter introduceres.
A failure to achieve this would be tantamount to reducing the employ ment market in Europe on a par with the increase which would take place in the United States and Japan.
Jeg ved, at man hævder, og medlemmer her vil hævde, at man kan gøre de to ting på samme tid.
I am, however, sceptical with regard to the recommendation for sectoral policy depicted by Mr Moreau.
Man kan løse disse problemer og samtidig fremsætte disse forslag.
Europe needs less, not more, bureaucracy and less State initiatives.
Menneskerettighedsdomstolen her i Strasbourg er udtryk for en overdragelse af suverænitet. Borgere fra Det forenede Kongerige appellerer til den hen over hovedet på deres nationale regering og vinder.
However, there is one element which is of an entirely different order of magnitude and that is paragraph 124 which in effect — and do not let us hide from this — would involve the transfer of sovereignty from elected national governments to the Community institutions.
Deres fordele og deres rettigheder øges derved.
Now we will all have our ideas about the desirability of that.
Tag så spørgsmålet om handel vis-a-vis andre handelsblokke
But do not let us conceal from ourselves that that is what it actually means.
Fordi vi forhandler i fællesskab og kommissærerne i Brussel har ret til at handle med reelle beføjelser på vores vegne, er vi effektive. Det er til fordel for vore folk.
The rapporteur's clear intention is that this should be a mandate to four legal draftsmen to produce a draft treaty, and this is a principle that will be enshrined as Parliament's will in that draft treaty.
Det ville ikke være til fordel for vore folk i nogen af disse tilfælde, hvis hver enkelt regering fortsatte med at arbejde for sig selv.
So that is what we are going to be voting about when we vote for paragraph 124.
Jeg mener, at denne betænkning ved at fremme den opfattelse afholder os fra at beskæftige os med de reelle økonomiske og sociale problemer, som vi står overfor.
The concentrated problem area of our common agricultural policy continues to hang over us like a storm cloud and yet the economic chapter hardly mentions it.
Det reelle problem er manglen på politisk vilje, manglen på fælles politisk beslutsomhed i Fællesskabet. Det vil ikke blive løst ved en institutionel reform.
Reference to the effect that the objectives of the CAP, as defined in Article 39 of the Treaty of Rome, shall be incorporated as the objectives of European Union is meaningless.
Se på opinionen i parlamenterne, og man vil finde ud af, at der ikke er støtte til noget forslag i den retning.
Now I have to confess that intellectually I am attracted by the principle of majority voting.
Vi har ansvaret for at overbevise fore folk om, at yderligere overdragelse af suverænitet vil være til deres fordel.
But I also have to recognize that in my judgement at least the vast majority of the British people are not so intellectually attracted.
De får del i en større, stærkere suverænitet.
And I have to say that I think in many cases one can see why.
Det er det budskab, vi skal have til at slå an.
Because, after all, majorities are coercive.
Vore folk forventer af os, at vi får Europa til at fungere, og vi her i Parlamentet, fordi der er ikke noget andet sted, må ikke vige uden om det ansvar.
It is all very well to have majority voting, but if one has a binding rule, such as is proposed here, that means that all the different constituent parts of the Community must abide by that majority.
Desuden hævdes det endvidere her, at Europa-Parlamentet repræsenterer den reelle politiske vilje hos Europas befolkning.
Now we have seen majorities here which, I must confess, have been exercised in the most irresponsible way.
Jeg mener, de er farlige, fordi de fremmer troen på, at vejen fremad er den gamle føderalistiske vej.
Because, after all, that is what the majority in this Parliament has voted for time and time and time again.
Hr. Spinelli sagde, at vi må holde flammen i live her, holde flammen i live i fyrtårnet. Mit svar på det er, at vi skal slukke lyset og flytte fyrtårnet til en anden kanal!
And until that sort of issue is cleared up I do not think that there is any genuine support in the United Kingdom for this particular major and revolutionary change.
Han appellerede typisk til de medlemmer, der går ind for hovedindholdet i disse forslag og opfordrede dl at undlade at træffe foran staltninger, der ville forhindre, at de blev vedtaget.
Both in the economic chapter as in the chapter written by our colleague, Mr Prag, this impor tant problem has been glossed over in a more or less meaningless line.
Han understregede imidlertid også, at der i Parlamentet var nogle — heriblandt mig selv — der går fuldstændig imod den generelle retning i forslagene i denne betænkning. Hr. formand, jeg hører til dem, der vil stemme imod disse forslag rub og stub.
And yet no more than two months ago debates were held in this House on unfair competition in foreign trade, on the effect of the CAP on the Community external economic policy, on GATT issues and on the pros and cons of boycott measures — all first-rate debates — the economic necessity and the considerable significance of external economic problems for the Community were all paraded before us.
En af de fundamentale vanskeligheder, Fællesskabet står overfor, er, at vi har en række politiske målsætninger, der bliver gentaget her, der måske var i orden for De oprindelige Seks. Der var stor konvergens imellem dem.
the decisionmaking machinery, in the liaison between Community institutions. We want to disentangle the log jam in the decisionmaking procedure and to reduce the preponderance of the Council.
Der var to politiske målsætninger, da Fællesskabet startede.
Our criticism of the guidelines must not be construed as antiEuropean, as some would, no doubt, like to believe.
Den ene var ad bevæge sig imod et føderalistisk Europa, den anden at søge at optage enhver europæisk nation, der ønskede at komme ind i Fællesskabet.
We are not concerned with 'if' but with 'how' the Treaty is to be amended and with displaying a modicum of honesty, both among each other and with regard to the Community's citizens.
Jo mere vi bevæger os i retning af et fællesskab med tolv medlemmer, i des større omfang vil vi få divergens i stedet for konvergens, jo vanskeligere, om ikke umuligt vil det blive at få institutionerne til at fungere, således som det er fastsat i denne Spinellibetænkning.
I feel that the guidelines referred to will only serve to delude our citizens, that the effects of their implementation remain veiled and that they merely serve to divert attention from current Community problems.
Det er fuldstændig urealistisk at forsøge at overføre 1950'ernes retorik til 1980'ernes pro blemer.
Let us be wary of such diversion from the real, current difficulties confronting the European Community.
Man behøver blot at se på de forskelle, man finder i den offentlige opinion, den skeptiske holdning osv. i de lande, der er de nyeste medlemmer, for at se, at det er tilfældet.
I heard him say that it was important for Parliament to give a lead ; that we were the guiding light and that it was up to us to take a stand — it was all impressive and I respect him for it.
Netop derfor, netop fordi Parlamentet intet har modtaget fra de andre institutioner af det, der var underforstået i den ændring, som det direkte valg til Parlamentet betød, netop fordi regeringerne vedblivende driver deres spil med forstillelse og udsættelse, skylder Parlamentet i det mindste sig selv og den europæiske offentlighed en værdig og stolt handling, et tegn på liv og vitalitet, et bevis på forudseenhed og politisk konsekvens.
However, we must also remember, colleagues, that we are here to represent the basic aspirations of our citizens, the people who elect us, and that if we do not do this the gestures we indulge in are meaningless. Now, however much I may be attracted by the idea of majority voting, I am conscious that the people who elect me are not and that I would be being untrue to them if I pretended that they were ; and by casting my vote for paragraph 124, that is what I would be doing.
Det havde naturligvis været bedre ikke at spilde første del af valgperioden, siden Parlamentet modtog van Aerssen-betænkningen, med udsættelser og uvished.
Leadership means guiding people in the way in which they wish to go and giving them a nudge. Making political gestures does not establish political facts.
Det ville have gjort det muligt for os at arbejde endnu bedre, end vi har gjort, og uden at være presset af tidnød mere grundigt at søge den fællesnævner, som alle kunne acceptere.
And if we do not have widespread public support for this kind of move, we are not being leaders, we are being arrogant and that is not the way that I think the new Europe is going to be built.
Parlamentets initiativ er imidlertid langt fra at være en blot og bar akademisk øvelse; med hensyn til den europæiske krise tager det tyren ved hornene, som man siger.
Community-citizens — our electorate — expect us to surmount these difficulties.
Dermed mener jeg, at det går løs på det nøglespørgsmål, som vi kæmper med: de væsendige betingelser for en demokratisk og effektiv politik for en integreret økonomi, de væsendige forudsætninger for individet »Europa« til at spille en international og fredsbefordrende rolle i verden.
They expect joint action to combat the economic crisis and unemployment, joint policies drawn up and implemented by us with a view to maintaining the competitiveness of Community industry with regard to that of the United States and Japan, to guarantee the environment and the essentials of life, and individual Community contribution towards safeguarding and maintaining peace ; they are awaiting a solution to the financial and budgetary misery through a reform of both the CAP and the Community financing system.
Hr. Spinelli siger, at hans forslag er pragmatiske forslag. Jeg benægter dette.
Mr Hänsch (S). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, the report drawn up by Mr Spinelli and our other colleagues can be divided into two sections.
De harmonerer ikke med den måde, hvorpå samarbejdet mellem europæiske nationer har udviklet sig.
We can subscribe fully to these reports and the description of the tasks and objectives contained therein.
Jeg mener, at en virkelig pragmatisk politik erkender, at ideen om et føderalt Europa er »en umulig drøm« for at citere overskriften i The Times forleden.
Even allowing for the inevitable compromises, and the fact that all is not exactly as one would have wished, the section referred to is, nevertheless, a blueprint for a Community of the future which complies with our desires.
Det er de problemer, der optager mine vælgere.
Likewise I feel that the guidelines contained in these two reports can only delude the Community's citizens.
Det er de spørgsmål, der bliver stillet hjemme, ikke spørgsmålet om opbygningen af et eller andet nyt Supereuropa. Vi har et budskab, der kommer fra Europa-Parlamentet, som ingen lytter til, der handles ikke.
I know many Members in this House who swear by the future European Union but who, in the halls and corridors outside, behave like realists in saying that the whole affair has no chance of success in any event, not even within their own parties.
De mangfoldige talenter hos medlemmerne af dette udvalg og mange andre i Parlamentet kunne anvendes langt bedre, såfremt de beskæftigede sig med disse problemer.
I foresee that this type of dishonesty — and please take it very seriously — will rebound on us.
Men kan disse forskelle, som opildner folkemasserne på Europas torve og pladser, og som tvinger kancellierne til et uafbrudt justeringsarbejde, virkelig være fremmede for denne sal?
We share the desire of the overwhelming majority of the Members of this House for a massive bolstering of the rights of the European Parliament as compared with the other Community institutions in the future.
Er det måske ikke selve anti-europæerne, som bringer os et ekko af en debat, som vi ikke kan unddrage os?
We want to provide the Community electorate with something to vote for when it goes to the polls.
Til slut, hr. formand, vil jeg gerne sige, at jeg og mange af mine kolleger vil stemme imod denne Spinellibetænkning.
We all know very well that, in the most optimistic scenario, the course charted in these documents will be followed by some four or five Member States.
Jeg håber, den bliver nedstemt, og jeg håber, at Parlamentets medlemmer derefter vil gå i gang med den konstruktive og reelle opgave, der ligger i udformningen af en social og økonomisk politik, der vil være til fordel for hele EFs befolkning.
Indeed the first draft of these guidelines contained a reference to the effect that the proposed European Union could be formed by four or five Member States.
Gaiotti de Biase midtpunktet, grundpillen, garanten for fællesskabsviljen.
Hänsch after the end of the war, led farseeing and courageous statesmen to embark on the construction of a united Europe.
Den betænkning, söm hr. Prag har udarbejdet, og for hvilken han burde belønnes med en mere modig solidaritet fra sin gruppes side, lægger grunden til denne fælles stråben.
Let me quote just one name, that of Robert Schuman : tomorrow, 15 September, will be the twentieth anniversary of his death.
Vi kunne dog have ønsket noget mere: vi havde gerne set en kraftigere fremhæven af den europæiske unions funktion i de internationale organisationer og de internationale konferencer og en anerkendelse af denne forsamling som et mønsterværdigt forum for politiske samarbejde. Billedet af Europa dannes kontinuerligt og konsekvent i særdeleshed her.
Having once been at his side, I well remember what courage he needed to direct French policy along an entirely new road and to propose, instead of the conclusion of a peace treaty, the creation of a Community which Germany could join as a partner of the same standing as the other founding countries.
Turner (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, for det første må jeg sige, at jeg efter at have hørt hr. Megahys indlæg overhovedet ikke er enig med ham, når han siger, at han er helt imod den retning, disse forslag går i.
It is, after all, a critical question to know who can and will join in. Can you imagine that such a question was raised and debated in committee ?
Rom-traktaten, hvis bestemmelser om magtbalancen hidtil har været en total fiasko — men man har i det mindste kontrol over det, man gør, medens man forhandler om en traktat, men det er efter min opfattelse meget vanskeligt og uklogt at binde sig til en forfatning, før forhandlingerne er på begyndt.
It had originally been the intention to take up the issue but it has now vanished because it was someone's contention that it belonged in the transitional voting stage.
Vi havde gerne set, at der allerede nu var fremsat en bemærkning om nødvendigheden af de fælles strukturer til analyse, undersøgelse og forslag, som er nødvendige for at give det politiske samarbejde et solidt grundlag.
It can, as indicated, be judicious but it must still be raised and debated in a Parliament such as this ; it must be grappled with rather than letting it disappear and retorting : 'We shall get around to it next Spring during the transitional regulations'.
Vi er for øvrigt på det rene med, at styrkelsen af Fællesskabets institutioner i sig selv er en fredsfaktor, et mønster for regionalt og kontinentalt samarbejde, der må kunne tjene til eftertanke for de øvrige verdensdele, som er rystet af ideologisk og stammemæssig rivaliseren.
I would like us to wrestle with such fundamental issues of the European Community and the future of the Union when we talk about guidelines rather than about one or other issue which arises from interinstitutional collaboration.
Jeg håber, Europa-Parlamentet forsøger at gøre noget andet, for det ville være tåbeligt at blive enige om et detaljeret kontrol- og balancesystem, der i vidt omfang angår vor egen fremtid, før systemet som helhed er accepteret af dem, der skal udarbejde det.
Today many voices can be heard — some even here — suggesting that the conflicts of interest between Member States of the Community are so great, that the revival of national egoism is so strong, that the resolve to advance a stage further towards European integration will encounter unsurmountable obstacles.
Jeg kan blot håbe, at Parlamentet i virkeligheden forsøger at sige, at når alt kommer til alt, vil dets foreliggende system være acceptabelt.
Cassandra — whether this Cassandra be called Hänsch or de la Malène — can certainly put forward enough arguments to justify her pessimism.
Men at gå hen og binde sig til et specielt forslags ramme er efter min opfattelse ganske uacceptabelt på nuværende tids punkt.
Yet an objective analysis of the situation in which we find ourselves cannot fail to lead most of us to the conclu sion that the evils our people are suffering cannot be remedied simply by the efforts of national States acting in isolation or even in opposition to one another.