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Ganske vist bestod der — som mange mennesker skyder os i skoene, og som det også hedder i Arndtbetænkningen — ingen fare for, at landbrugsudgifterne ville opsluge samtlige forhøjelser, hvis der ikke inden gennemførtes en drastisk reform.
Instead of strengthening the 'cohesion and solidarity of the Community', these proposals would weaken it and cause it to fall apart.
Lige inden underhuset blev opløst, forsikrede hr. Francis Pym, vor udenrigsminister, britiske parlamentsmedlemmer om, at han var aldeles overbevist om, at man ville blive enige om en aftale den 6. juni.
Why, Mr Tugendhat, do you not develop a new system for evaluating the advantages and disadvantages — financial, economic and social — of membership of the EEC ?
Hvorfor så pludselig udsætte det i sidste øjeblik?
We have already discussed this in this House.
Hvorfor siger fru Thatcher, at hun har for travlt til at komme på grund af det valg, som hun selv havde udskrevet, uden at det var nødvendigt?
This new system would show, for instance, that the Federal Republic of Germany, although a net contributor, derives very great benefits from the system of compensatory amounts and is running substantial trade surpluses with all the other Member States, such as the one in the trifling sum of 33 billion francs that it had with France in 1982.
Det skulle have været det topmøde, hvorfra hun hjemførte byttet.
As for removal of the VAT ceiling, is it really necessary ?
Og det kan jeg fortælle Dem, at det britiske folk aldrig vil tolerere. rere.
Is it not premature ?
De eksisterer imidlertid ikke kun på grund af den nuværende landbrugspolitik men hænger sammen med, som De ved, den gældende verdenssituation, med høstudbyttet.
Mrs Castle (S). — Mr President, in the short time I have available I want to ask a simple question, what has happened to the British rebate for 1983 ?
Vi må sætte det ind i en fælles sammehæng.
It is mentioned only obliquely and rather equivocally in the Arndt report.
Findes der da kun overskudsproduktioner her hos os?
It was not mentioned by Mr Tugendhat.
Er der nogen, der ønsker kun at konfrontere de europæiske bønder og ikke bønderne i alle øvrige lande og egne af verden med denne problematik?
And I understand it has disappeared also from the 1984 budget which was supposed to implement it.
Skal vi ikke for en gangs skyld gå helt i dybden med problemet, skal vi ikke også tale om substitutter og spørge os selv, hvordan det kan være, at markedsordningen for korn koster os stadig flere penge?
We shall be hearing about this later byt I gather there is to be no special line to repay to Britain the excessive contributions she has had to make ever since she joined the European Community.
Det må vi dog alle se i øjnene, og så er jeg sikker på, at vi vil finde en løsning.
Now I know it is like swearing in church to suggest that we have a legitimate financial claim when you are all talking so high-mindedly.
Formanden. — Ærede kolleger, blot en meddelelse i tilslutning til det, der netop har udspillet sig.
That is one of the reasons why I cannot vote in favour of the Arndt report.
En taler må kun afbrydes, når denne er indforstået med afbrydelsen.
Now there are some excellent things in it and I have no doubt at all of the genuine ness of my good comrade Arndt's fervour when he talks about the necessity for the reform of the CAP.
Men i dette tilfælde var hun ikke indforstået, og hr. Balfour har således afbrudt hende uretmæssigt.
But I am not even prepared to mention the possibility of an increase in own resources until there is proof practical in the field and on the ground that the CAP is to be reformed.
I henhold til artikel 67 i forretningsordenen kan hr. Balfour få ordet for en personlig bemærkning ved afslutningen af forhandlingen, og jeg vil derfor ikke give ham ordet nu.
I am not prepared to put justice to the British people at the mercy of some longterm reforms which, even if they were to be implemented, would, it is estimated, give back to Britain, not all her own money, as Mrs Thatcher used to claim, not even two-thirds of it but, if we were lucky and it actually worked that way, we might get back less than one half of the over-payment that we have made.
Vi er parate til aktivt at medvirke til en begrænsning af de strukturelle overskudsproduktioner, men så må man også komme med forslag og være med til at bære ansvaret og må ikke lade os i stikken, for vi kan acceptere, at også landbruget påtager sig en stor del af omkostningerne.
I am not prepared to divert more money to be spent by the European Community when it is obviously so incapable of effectively managing its own affairs.
Früh (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, De ser, hvilke store vanskeligheder EF har, men jeg håber, at det lykkes os igen at vende tilbage fra hverdagens stridigheder i vore lande til vor fælles sag.
We have already shown in this House how many appropriations are not fully utilized — often by a wide margin — because they do not correspond with policies properly formulated by the Community.
Jeg er virkelig glad for, at vi taler om Fællesskabets udvikling og dets finansiering.
Is this not a form of waste, one which is barely comprehensible in these times of budgetary austerity ?
Blot beklager jeg, at det ikke kommer tydeligt frem — og det er sandsyn
Our colleague Mr Schön has demonstrated that it is, in a report, which we shall actually be debating today, on the discharge to be granted in respect of implementation of the 1981 budget.
Hr. Arndt kaldte landbrugsministrene Europas »frit skabende kunstnere«.
Why encourage this budgetary spending spree, the object of which is to sidestep the fundamental problems ?
Det er naturligvis et rart begreb, men tænk dog en gang på: disse landbrugsministre er dem, der har det sværeste arbejde i Europa!
Is it necessary to wait for additional resources before taking action ?
Lad os give dem en anden beslutningsprocedure, så de frigøres fra kravet om enstemmighed, og således at flertalsafgørelser bliver mulige.
It is possible as of now, without incurring substantial financial costs, to strengthen the common commercial policy, to promote cooperation in the industrial, scientific and energy fields, to shift the emphasis in the budget onto economic expansion, and to strengthen solidarity with the developing countries.
Så ville vi blive forskånet for meget, som vi nu om stunder hidser os op over.
In our submission, it is the political will, not resources, that is lacking today.
Det er ikke den europæiske landbrugspolitik i sig selv, der giver os problemer, men derimod de evindelige nationale krav, hvor man stiller krav på krav og ikke er til at rokke, hvis man ikke får disse krav opfyldt.
Now the most significant speech in this debate was that of my British Conservative colleague, Mr Balfour. What was significant about it was that it was like the dog that did not bark in the night.
Lad os altså hjælpe til med at forbedre beslutningsinstanserne, for uden en forbedring af disse kan vi ikke udvide, kan vi ikke indføre nye poli tikker, og kan vi heller ikke forhøje momssatsen.
There was not a mention in it about the UK rebate, not a whimper of protest that a figure had not yet been ...
Det er helt indlysende, fordi tidsplanen betyder, at vi ikke kan nå vort mål om retfærdighed blot gennem disse langsigtede struktur foranstaltninger.
Mr Früh (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, you are aware of the great difficulties the Community is facing, and I hope that we can get away from the everyday squabbles in our countries and back to our common cause.
Price (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, i gårsdagens debatter om menneskerettigheder fremdrog vi nogle af forskellene mellem Østeuropa og Vesteuropa.
I very much welcome the fact that we are debating the development of the Community and its financing.
Hvor Østeuropa er forenet gennem undertrykkelse og erobring, er Vesteuropa forenet på grund af dets befolkningers demokratiske vilje.
But I am sorry that it is not quite clear — and I suppose this was inevitable — whether we are discussing the opinion of the Committee on Budgets, the Arndt resolution, in other words, which is to be forwarded to the summit as Parliament's opinion, or the new proposal the Commission has now put forward for future financing methods.
Det har følger for udviklingen af Fællesskabets fremtidige finanser, fordi det betyder, at vi er nødt til at udvikle os i fælles harmoni.
I can see that the two are very closely linked, but I hope it is clear that we are not adopting a resolution on the Commission's proposal today and that that can only be done after an exhaustive debate on the basis of an appropriate motion for a resolution.
Det kræver tillid fra parlamenterne i alle medlemsstaterne, hvis der skal ske fremskridt.
That should be remembered, I feel, lest we overlook important questions in our haste.
De skabte en så ringe finansiel mekanisme, at den overhovedet ikke virkede.
It is so interesting how vulnerable the Conservatives are.
Den succes, som den konservative regering havde med det, har ærgret fru Castle til vanvid.
How sensitive they are, and I am not a bit surprised because they have every reason to be sensitive.
Derfor får vi en britisk valgtale at høre her i Parlamentet. mentet.
It is astonishing to me to hear Mr Balfour meekly accept the proposal that we should move towards an increase in the one percent ceiling in own resources.
Hr. formand, min gruppe interesser sig for Fællesskabets fremtidige udvikling og forstår, at dette beslutningsforslag, hvis det vedtages i dag, vil yde et vægtigt bidrag og sikre Det forenede Kongeriges fremtid inden for det.
His speech confirmed my suspicions that Mrs That cher is getting ready for a sell-out on the claims she has made on Britain's behalf in the past years.
Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Hr. formand, vi repræsentanter fra Grækenlands kommunistiske parti betragter Kommissionens forslag som uacceptabelt, et forslag, der vil tilspidse vort lands problemer ved dets deltagelse i Fællesskabet.
I welcome the fact — particularly where the agricultural policy is concerned — that after a great deal of wavering, we have decided that the 1 % limit should be raised. At least there was no danger — as some suspected of us and as the Arndt motion says — that agricultural spending would absorb all the increases if a drastic reform was not effected first.
Jeg vil derfor gøre følgende bemærkninger:
Then why suddenly postpone it at the last moment ?
For det første mindsker disse forslag ikke forskellene mellem medlemsstaterne, men udvider dem tværtimod.
The fact that she has postponed it makes it quite clear to me that there will be no loot to bring home.
Og dette sker igennem opgivelsen af tanken om progressivt bidrag, ideen om bidrag i overensstemmelse med hvert enkelt lands andel i landbrugsstøtten og generelt gennem forsøget på at forbedre Forbundsrepublikken Tyskland og Storbritanniens position.
And secondly that she is recognizing now she will only get any kind of a deal within complex new arrangements that involve increased spending by Britain throught the European Com munity I tell you the British people will never tolerate that.
Hr. formand, for mig er der nogle meget vigtige punkter.
We will undoutedly have problems with this agricultural policy.
Det første er, at beslutningen, Arndt forslaget for budgetudvalget, gerne vil gøre det klart, at tildelingen af ekstra indtægter er uløseligt forbundet med foranstaltninger til at begrænse over skudsproduktion i landbruget.
But they are not entirely due to the structure of the present agricultural policy but are connected, as you know, with the present world situation, with harvests throughout the world.
At dette er en betingelse, som må opfyldes før forøgelsen af momsindtægterne.
We said little about this last year and the year before, partly because the agricultural policy resulted in consider able savings.
Jeg understreger begrænsningen af over skudsproduktion i landbruget, fordi min gruppe og jeg ønsker en stærk og sund fælles landbrugspolitik for Fællesskabet.
Hence my appeal, and I believe it is one to which you will agree : this motion should state more clearly that, as the only common policy we have, the agricultural policy is not being questioned and that we are trying to do something about surpluses.
Men det er klart, at denne sundhed ikke bedres ved, at man fortsætter med at proceducere overskud, som der pr. definition ikke er brug for, og som ikke er ønskede.
Are we the only ones to have surpluses ? Are only European farmers to be confronted with these problems, while farmers in all the other countries and regions of the world are left in peace ?
Så det er et meget vigtigt punkt i denne beslutning, og det er en af de stærkeste tilkendegivelser, som indtil nu er kommet fra Parlamentet om dette emne.
Should we not at long last be taking a very close look at the situation as a whole, discussing substitutes and asking ourselves why it is that the organiza tion of the common market in cereals is costing us more and more money ?
Det andet, jeg finder vigtigt i beslutningen, er, at man tager hensyn til tidsfaktoren. Hr. Arndt nævnte i sin tale før 1986-budgettet som det første budget, hvor vi formentlig vil se disse ændringer på plads. Beslut
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Kan vi desuden tale om Grækenlands fordel, om investeringer fra landbrugs-
We are prepared to cooperate very closely in the reduction of structural surpluses, but others must then
Alavanos fonden, når vi på den anden vægtskål sætter de enorme underskud, som Grækenlands tiltrædelse af EF skabte?
linked to measures to restrain surplus agricultural production and that this is a conditioned precedent to the increase in VAT resources.
Når vi sammenligner de 6 mia drachmer, som vi havde i overskud i 1980 på landbrugsprodukternes betalingsbalance, med de 10 mia i underskud i 1981 og 20 mia i underskud i 1982, som vi nåede op på?
Now I emphasize the restraint on surplus agricultural production because I and my group want to see a strong and healthy Community Common Agricultural Policy. But clearly that health will not be improved by continuing to produce surpluses that are by definition not required and not wanted.
Man kan også navne det enorme underskud, som opstod i industrisektoren.
So that is a very important point in this resolution and it is one of the strongest state ments that has yet come from this Parliament on that topic.
Ikke uden grund: de må have deres plads i den fælles landbrugs politik, intet ud over deres plads, men hele deres plads, hvilket for tiden ikke er tilfældet.
That is, of course, a nice way to put it, but it must be remembered that these Agriculture Ministers are the real labourers of Europe.
I denne henseende er man selvfølgelig nødt til at tage hensyn til miljøet, handelssamkvemmet med middelhavslandene og især til udvidelsen med Spanien og Portugal.
Let us give them a different decisionmaking structure that frees them of the obligation to reach unanimous agreement and allows them to take majority decisions.
Hvad angår den foreslåede udregningsmetode, kan man være enig om princippet, men vi kunne tænke os, at den var mere generel og ikke specialiseret, samt at man kunne diskutere beregningsfaktorerne.
It is not the European agricultural policy itself that causes us difficulties but the constant national demands, one immediately following another, with no one budging an inch if his demands are not met.
Hvordan kan det være muligt, når man nævner netop disse negative resultater, at tage skridt til et generelt angreb på landmændene?
Mr Arndt, in his speech earlier, referred to the 1986 budget as being the first budget in which we would be likely to see these changes in place.
Vil vi løse problemerne gennem formindskelse af landbrugsstøtten på budgettet, når vi kan løse disse på en række andre måder?
Paragraph 9 of the resolution makes clear that we need further interim measures in order to achieve equity for certain Member States.
Når vi kan løse de problemer, der angår de græske rosiner, den græske vin, den græske bomuld, den græske tobak ved anvendelse af Fællesskabets præference?
That is very clear because the time scale means that we cannot achieve the objective of equity simply through these longterm restructuring measures.
Når vi kan løse dem ved en videreudvikling af vore forbindelser med de socialistiske lande og aftagelse fra disses side af en række landbrugsprodukter?
I believe that that recognition will be widely welcomed, in particular, in the United Kingdom.
Hvorfor undergraver Kommissionen den græske regerings forsøg i den retning?
So also will be the repetition of Parliament's call for a system of financial equalization in favour of the financially weaker Member States, such as, the United Kingdom.
Fællesskabets fremtidige finansiering drejer sig om to poler: sammenhæng og finansiel solidaritet.
That is another statement which is very clear in the Arndt text.
O'Mahony (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, det beslutningsforslag, hr. Arndt har fremsat, indeholder adskillige positive forslag, som Parlamentet fuldt ud bør støtte før rådsmødet i Stuttgart.
Mr Price (ED). — Mr President, in yesterday's debates on human rights we brought out some of the differences between Eastern and Western Europe : Eastern Europe is united by suppression and conquest, Western Europe being by the democratic will of its people.
Til slut vil jeg gerne sige, at problemet for os heller ikke er et sprøgsmål om indtægter, men et spørgsmål om politik.
Now that has consequences in terms of the development of the Community's future finances, because it means that we have to develop by common accord.
I tilfælde af forøgelse af indtægterne vil vi gøre opmærksom på den alvorlige fare, der vil opstå, eftersom Fællesskabets nye egne indtægter vil binde en stor del af de nationale finansielle midler.
It requires the confidence of the parliaments of each and every one of the Member States in order to get progress.
Dette er noget, som især er negativt, noget som vil øge Grækenlands skattetryk til fordel for Fællesskabet.
That confidence will be won only if we can demonstrate to them that we are competent and courageous in taking difficult decisions on priorities in expenditure and that we are even-handed towards the interests of all Member States of the Community.
Såby (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, jeg har undertiden, når jeg lytter til mine britiske kolleger, indtrykket af, at visse, alt imens vi andre forsøger at fremme Europa på tre områder, forsøger at hæmme det på et fjerde område; men jeg tager nok fejl.
With those points in the resolution I must confess that I am mystified at the contribution made earlier by Mrs Castle.
Det påpeger korrekt nødvendigheden af at hæve 1 %-momsloftet ved den snarest mulige lejlighed og foreslår fornuftigt, at landbrugsudgifterne ikke skal tages med i beregningen af den momsandel, som skal betales af medlemsstaterne inden for det foreslåede modulerede bidragssystem.
It was simply scaremongering, devoted not to the audience here today, not to the future development of the Community, but to a British general election by somebody whose party is trailing badly in the public opinion polls and is committed to the destruction of this Community and to withdrawing the United Kingdom from it.
Når dette er sagt, vil jeg sige, at Fællesskabets fremtidige finansiering nødvendigvis forudsætter en økono misk solidaritet og stabilitet. Samtlige vore anstrengelser som vi kan udfolde, vil kun kunne krones med succes, hvis vi også og især sætter ind på dette område.
She was a member of the cabinet that produced the situation whereby the United Kingdom had a net contribution in 1979 of £ 947 m, and it was the Conservative governement that had to come in and sort out that situation.
Efter min mening har forslaget også fundamentalt ret, når det påpeger, at omfordeling til gunst for de svagere medlemsstater bedst kan opnås gennem udgifts- og ikke indtægtsafgørelser.
In the Arndt resolution prepared by the Committee on Budgets, I believe that there is a reasonable compromise that could be accepted around this Chamber and I think the speeches made in this Parliament today, with very few exceptions, reflect that accord.
I den forbindelse må jeg sige, at vore drøftelser er en kende urealistiske i budgetmæssig henseende, eftersom vi i hovedsagen beskæftiger os med indtægtssiden af regnskabet, mens det fremtidige udgiftsmønster forbliver uafklaret.
It is a way in which the Community can go forward and make progress, and I hope that the balance of the resolution will not be disturbed by amendments that would radically transform a very carefully worked out package.
Det er naturligvis ikke tilfredsstillende, ikke mindst fordi det medfører, at vi fokuserer på nødvendigheden af at kontrollere landbrugsudgifterne uden at vide, hvordan de opsparede indtægter vil blive fordelt på såvel de forskellige former for politik som på regi-
Mr President my group is concerned with the future development of the Community and recognizes that this resolution, if passed today, will make a major contribution and secure the future of the United Kingdom within it.
Jeg finder det korrekt, at forhøjelser af landbrugsudgifterne skal kontrolleres fremover, men jeg mener også, at de kontrolmekanismer, som indføres, skal defineres omhyggeligt.
This said, the future financing of the Community will necessarily be conditioned by the degree of monetary stability and solidarity.
Medlemsstaternes forskellige grader af afhængighed af landbrug og den fortsatte mangel på en hensigtsmæssig regionalpolitik udelukker brugen af de fleste instrumenter til kontrol med landbrugsudgifterne, og det har jeg stillet to ændringsforslag om.
However strenuous our efforts, they will be successful only if we also make progress elswhere, and in the monetary field in particular.
modsætning til Lange- og Spinelli-beslutningsforsla-gene og også til Kommissionens forslag i grønbogen.
Yes. In my opinion, the rate must be determined, but a change is inevitable and we shall have to go down that road.
Vi er også uenige i at forbinde Fællesskabets egen indtægtsforøgelse med degradering af den fælles landbrugspolitik.
Firstly these proposals not only fail to reduce the differences between the Member States, but on the contrary, they make them more acute.
Det er en kendsgerning, at land brugsudgifterne må bremses gennem strukturel overskudskontrol, men at middelhavsprodukternes specielle produktionsproblemer bør tages i betragtning, og på dette punkt forventer vi konkrete forslag fra Kommissionens side.
And that is the consequence of abandoning the notion of progressiveness iveness in the matter of contributions, and of the ideas concerning contributions related to each country's share in the agricultural credits and, more generally, of the attempt to improve the positions of the Federal Republic of Germany and Great Britain.
På grundlag af de ovenfor nævnte forbehold har vi fremsat nogle ændringsforslag, som vi håber bliver vedtaget.
If we take into account the fact that the 6 billion drachmas surplus we had in 1980 for agricultural products, we reached a deficit of 10 billions in 1981 and one of 20 billions in 1982 ?
Det er den største mangel ved et ellers værdifuldt forslag fra. hr. Arndt og budgetudvalget.
On the subject of VAT, I consider that what is needed above all is a programme for harmonization of VAT rates throughout the Community.
Med hensyn til f.eks Irland er den fælles landbrugspolitik stadig den mest effektive måde at tilsikre en rimelig andel af Fællesskabets indtægter på.
Discrimination is called for here : these products should be given their proper place in the common agricultural policy, no more and no less, which they do not have at present.
En vilkårlig kontrol af Fællesskabets landbrugsudgifter ville i vort tilfælde føre til regional diskrimination mod os.
In doing this it will of course be necessary to take account of the environment, trade with the Mediterranean region and above all enlargement of the Community to include Spain and Portugal.