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Endelig går den første mulighed ud på bevaring af kontrolcentret i Maastricht, men med en sammenlægning af al lufttrafikstyring i luftrummet, hvilket betyder overdragelse af opgaver fra Amsterdam til Maastricht.
Finally the first possibility proceeds from the continuation of the Maastricht Control Centre with, in addition, the entire ongoing air traffic control back-up services and would entail transferral officer tain services from Amsterdam to Maastricht.
Eu ropa-Pari am en tets forhandlinger
Albers leagues of the national parliaments, to find an optimal solution.
Jeg vil gerne pege på, hr. formand, at den betænk ning, som bærer mit navn, blev enstemmigt vedtaget af transportudvalget.
Mr President, I would like to mention that the report bearing my name was adopted unanimously by the Committee on Transport.
Jeg vil gerne udtale ønsket om, at Parlamentet i denne henseende følger transportudvalget, og at denne betænkning også bliver enstemmigt vedtaget i Parlamentet.
I can only hope that the House follows the example of the Committee on Transport in its vote on the report.
Formanden. — Transportudvalget har ordet.
President. — I call the Committee on Transport.
Seefeld, udvalgsformand — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, egentlig beklager jeg i høj grad på ny at måtte deltage i en debat om Eurocontrol.
Someone said recently that even after 25 years of the European Community we still unfortunately have the nonsense of air space frontiers in Europe.
I 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982 — år for år har Parlamentet hævet sin røst, har krævet at Euro control forbliver i live, men stadig væk svæver der et Damokles-sværd over denne vigtige europæiske organisation. nisation.
I therefore feel we should take Mr Albers's report as an opportunity to urge this Parliament once again to be untiring in raising its voice and protesting against the unwilling ness to allow an organization that operates so magnificently to continue to exist in its present form.
drøftet det med sine kolleger den 18. maj. Det er imidlertid ærgerligt, at det for Belgiens og Luxembourgs vedkommende endnu ikke er helt tydeligt.
Mr Seefeld, chairman of the Committee on Transport. — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I am really very sorry to have to speak yet again in a debate on Eurocontrol.
Ganske vist anses den første mulighed af Belgien og Luxembourg for at være interessant, men Forbundsrepublikken synes at være afvisende over for den første mulighed og foretrække den fjerde eller femte mulighed.
1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982 —year in, year out, this Parliament has raised its voice and called for the continuation of Eurocontrol, but the sword of Damocles still hangs over this important European organization.
Og den femte mulighed betyder overdragelse af de nuværende opgaver fra Maastricht til Bremen, Düsseldorf og Bruxelles.
On behalf of my group I wish to say that we fully agree with the contents of Mr Albers's report.
Ved valget spiller investeringsomkostningerne åbenbart ikke nogen stor rolle, men det gør personaleudgifterne og personale konsekvenserne. Der er personalekonsekvenser: den første mulighed betyder, at der vil blive beskæftiget 700 mennesker færre end ved den fjerde mulighed, og den første mulighed betyder også, at der vil blive beskæftiget 400 mennesker færre end ved den femte mulighed.
But we also endorse the view of the trade union representatives of the Eurocontrol staff that the application of the convention and the work of the organization should be subject to permanent parliamentary control, a kind of political supervision, as it were.
Hele operationen skulle jo gennemføres i en periode på ti til femten år, og flyve lederne arbejder i gennemsnit, til de er 55 år.
I feel we are best suited to this task, since our national colleagues are unfortunately often entangled in national considerations. derations.
For mig er den kendsgerning, at vi i dag på ny må tale om Eurocontrol, beviset på, at der stadig væk ikke eksisterer nogen sammenhængende europæisk transportpolitik.
For me the fact that we are again having to discuss Eurocontrol today is proof that there is still no cohesive European transport policy.
Hvis der var en, så måtte lufttrafik politikken tillægges stor betydning, og en lufttrafikpolitik uden luftsikkerhed ville overhovedet ikke være tænkelig. Kommissionen og Ministerrådet har gjort tilløb.
If there were, major importance would have to be attached to air transport policy, and an air transport policy without air safety would be absolutely inconceivable.
Rådet har beskæftiget sig med støj fra fly.
The Council has looked into the question of noise pollution caused by aircraft.
Men spørgsmålet om, hvordan sikkerheden i luften garanteres, og hvordan bestående organisationer fuld stændig integreres i en sådan plan, er der endnu ikke nogen, der har interesseret sig for.
But no one has yet taken any interest in the question of how safety in the air is to be ensured and how existing organizations should be completely integrated into a concept of this kind.
I al almindelighed kan det siges, at styringen og afviklingen af lufttrafikken er et klart europæisk anliggende, der ikke må opdeles i mindre enheder.
The Eurocontrol agency is a European institution which works.
Sikring og afvikling af lufttrafikken bør samordnes og integreres ligesom i De forenede Stater. Det ville også få betydningsfulde positive følger for den elektroniske industri og computerindustrien i Europa.
Eurocontrol is an instituion which is capable of doing more.
Vi kan altså give udtryk for vor mening i tide.
Eurocontrol should be expanded, not demolished.
Det kan forventes, at der den 29. juni ikke træffes nogen beslutning, men at der vil blive ført yderligere drøftelser om spørgsmålet om, hvilke mulighed der skal foretrækkes. Man må i den forbindelse huske på, at de regeringsmedlemmer, som overvejer dette, er trafikministre, som også er ansvarlige for udviklingen af en fælles transportpolitik i Det europæiske Fælles skab, således som det bliver angivet i Rom-traktaten.
Years ago the European Parliament's Committee on Transport organized a hearing at which experts, pilots' and military representatives, IATA and air traffic con trollers spoke, experts from every sector therefore, and they told us about the growing number of aircraft in the air, the ever higher speeds at which they fly, the rate at which air space was becoming limited and the need to try to achieve the highest possible level of safety in the smallest possible space.
Vi er af den opfattelse, at lufttrafikken hører med.
President. — I call the Group of the European People's Party (ChristianDemocratic Group).
De udtalte sig positivt om Eurocontrol og gik ind for denne organisation.
What they had to say about Eurocontrol was positive.
Men hvad gør vedkommende regeringer?
But what do the governments concerned do?
De ignorerer det hele!
They ignore all that.
Vi retter derfor i punkt 3 i beslutningen en appel til Eurocontrols stående kommission om at indtage en positiv holdning til den fremtidige rolle for kontrol centret i Maastricht.
Mr Janssen van Raay. — (NT) Mr President, col leagues, the Janssen van Raay resolution could not have had a better rapporteur than my colleague and friend Mr Albers.
Det er naturligvis klart, at det sidste ord om denne sag ikke bliver sagt i dag.
The Group of the European People's Party is pleased to give full and unanimous support to his report.
Det vil derfor være vigtigt,
That is the first point.
Et af de forfærdeligste svar har jeg engang fået af en forhenværende fransk trafikminister. Han erklærede i et brev, jeg har liggende, at han ikke kunne forestille sig, at det franske luftrum blev kontrolleret af andre end franske flyveledere.
One of the most atrocious answers I have ever heard was given to me by a former French Minister of Transport.
Manden skulle have sine skolepenge tilbage.
The man should have asked for his tuition fees back.
Han kunne meget hurtigt have fundet ud af, at f.eks. Eurocontrol-centralen i Karls-
He could have found out very quickly that, for example, the Eurocontrol centre in Karlsruhe, which is unfortun
Seefeld ruhe — hvorunder det sted, vi i dag har møde, desværre ikke sorterer — meget let kunne kontrollere hvert eneste fly over Strasbourg på radarskærmen.
Janssen van Raay faced, I think, with a very disturbing situation as has already been said by a number of speakers, because the proposed new convention on Eurocontrol appears to go right against the best interests of the European air traveller and of the airlines which carry them.
Men nej, det må ikke gøres derfra, så må man opbygge sin egen organisation !
Air transport costs in Europe are already higher than in the United States and there is absolutely no justifica­tion for further penalizing the air transport sector.
I disse dage har en eller anden erklæret: efter at vi har haft Det europæiske Fællesskab i 25 år, eksisterer stadig de meningsløse Iuftrumsgrænser i Europa.
It is doubly disturbing that the new proposed convention appears to go right away from the conclusions we our­selves have reached on the basis of the excellent Jans­sen van Raay report of two years ago.
Efter min mening bør vi altså derfor benytte hr. Albers' betænkning som anledning til på ny at gå stærkt ind for, at Parlamentet utrætteligt hæver sin røst og egentlig også må protestere imod den manglende vilje til at lade den så fremragende fungerende organisation bestå i sin nuværende form.
And then again, the new convention runs contrary to the whole spirit of the common transport policy and in particular of the new Community air transport policy that is begin­ning to take shape at this very time.
Jeg gentager: Nederlandene har i årevis nægtet at opfylde denne forpligtelse ifølge konventionen; Van den Doef har for første gang udtalt sig til fordel for Beek i brev af 6. maj.
Let me repeat: for years Dutch Govern­ments steadfastly refused to comply with a contractual commitment; in a letter of 6 May 1982, Mr Van den Doef came out for the first time in favour of Beek.
Det hænger sikkert sammen med den kendsgerning, at Hennekam-forslaget blev enstemmigt vedtaget støttet af arbejderpartiet, de kristelige demokrater, D'66 og WD (de liberale), men alligevel fortjener statssekretæren ros.
Given the long delay in getting round to the matter it should come as no surprise that when a vote was even­tually taken on it in the Lower House of Parliament in the Netherlands it received all­party support, embrac­ing such differing ideologies as those of the Socialists, Christian Democrats, Democrats 66 and the Liberals.
Den fuldstændig integrerede trafikstyring i Beek er stadig vort ¡deal, men vi forstår godt, at dette i øjeblikket er temmelig vanskeligt.
The Group of the European People's Party still considers the optimal solution to lie in the integration and consolidation of all air traffic control in Beek whilst accepting that this is somewhat difficult at present.
Vi glæder os derfor over, at statssekretæren går ind for den første mulighed, som jo går ud på, at trafikstyringen, al trafikstyringen med undtagelse af indflyvningskontrollen, bliver integreret i Beek.
We welcome the fact that the Secretary of State has come out in favour of option one, which foresees the complete integration and consolidation in Beek of air traffic control with the exception of the approach control.
På min gruppes vegne vil jeg her erklære, at vi fuldt ud kan tilslutte os indholdet af hr. Albers' betænk ning.
Now the facts of the situation are that under the pres­ent system it is a penalty on the airlines insofar as they are obliged to fly far greater distances than they need to and I very much doubt whether the proposed new convention would obviate that.
Men vi deler også den opfattelse, der er fremsat af fagforeningsrepræsentanterne for Eurocontrols personale, nemlig at anvendelsen af overenskomsten og organisationens arbejde bør underkastes en stadig parlamentarisk kontrol, så at sige en slags politisk inspektion.
We have also the fur­ ■ ther problem that there are long delays, we had, as you know sir, only today a delay of 50 minutes at Heathrow, so I think we can hardly say that the situ­ation is satisfactory.
Jeg mener, at vi er bedst egnede til denne opgave, da vores nationale kolleger desværre ofte er fanget i nationale spekulationer.
Therefore we would contend that we cannot really allow the authorities to get away with this without further debate and we would therefore argue strongly for a fresh look at this situation, and I hope that we shall get a robust reply from the Com­mission.
Jeg vil lige sige et par ord om det forhold, at tyskerne åbenbart foretrækker den fjerde mulighed, dvs. en integreret trafikstyring over flight level 300.
Just a word on the Germans' evident preference for option four, that is, an integrated air traffic control for traffic above flight level 300.
Den mulighed afviser vi bestemt af mange grunde.
For numerous reasons we find this unacceptable.
Jeg vil nævne to.
Here are two of them.
Militært-civilt samarbejde foregår f.eks. netop under flight level 300.
An example of military/civilian cooperation takes place under flight level 300.
Det ville vi sætte over styr, hvis vi, som tyskerne vil, benyttede den fjerde mulighed.
This would be squandered if we approved option four.
For det andet ville det betyde, at den nuværende trafikstyring igen ville blive givet tilbage til de nationale myndigheder.
Secondly it would involve resti­tuting present responsibilities for air traffic control to the national governments and national authorities.
Hr. Seefeld har med rette bemærket, at vi må udvide og ikke indskrænke Euro control.
Mr Seefeld correctly pointed out that we should expand rather than restrict Eurocontrol.
Eurocontrol bør man udbygge — ikke det modsatte.
President. — I call the Liberal and Democratic Group.
Må jeg have lov, for jeg har lovet Dem at være kort fattet, at slutte med et lille forslag til nederlænderne?
I promised to keep it short but may I just end with a remark for Dutch ears?
Hr. Van Zeil har i den tredje Van Agt-regcring ved siden af sin portefølje »Små og mellemstore virksomheder« fået en anden portefølje, nemlig »Sociale anliggender«.
Mr Van Zeil, Minister in charge of Middle Class Affairs in Prime Minister Van Agt's second government, has just been given the Social Affairs portfolio in addition, in Van Agt's third government formation.
Mit råd til den nederlandske regering er at give hr. Van Zeil, som er overordentlig sagkyndig på luftfartsområdet, en tredje portefølje og gøre ham til statssekretær for trafik og offentlige arbejder med den opgave at sørge for, at der under den tredje Van Agt-regering kommer en definitiv beslutning fra den nederlandske regerings side.
My advice to the new Dutch Government would be to give Mr Van Zeil, preemi­nent in aviation matters, a third portfolio by naming him Secretary of State for Traffic and Waterways and Drainage with a brief to assure the completion of the Dutch Government's official policy study on the choice of air traffic option.
Den må nu inden valget og den nye regeringsdannelse vælge den første mulighed.
This must be done between now and the formation of a new cabinet in the after­math of the forthcoming parliamentary elections in the Netherlands and they must choose option one.
Janssen van Raay. — (NL) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, Janssen van Raay-beslutningen kunne ikke have fået en bedre ordfører end min kollega og ven Albers. Det europæiske folkepartis gruppe vil støtte hans betænkning enstemmigt og 100 %.
Mr Moorhouse. — Mr President, Mr Albers can cer­tainly count on our full support and we are extremely grateful to him for his continued efforts to keep the concept of Eurocontrol alive.
Det var det første punkt.
Now we are certainly
For det andet kunne tidspunktet ikke være bedre, for i morgen finder der i det nederlandske andetkammer en mundtlig behandling sted af statssekretær Van den Doefs brev, som hr. Albers allerede har talt om. Det kunne altså ikke være bedre, end at Europa-Parlamentet i dag igen behandlede denne sag.
Mr Berkhouwer. — (NL) Mr President, I too would welcome a robust answer from the Commission for a change but I have my doubts that anything will come of it.
Flypriserne i Europa er allerede højere end i De forenede Stater, og der er absolut ingen berettigelse i yderligere at straffe lufttrafiksektoren.
It is almost a Catholic People's Party refrain from Romme's time and I hope that the Commission, just for this once, will desist from the usual nonsensensical answers they provide us with.
Det er dobbelt foruroligende, at det ser ud, som om den nye foreslåede konvention går helt væk fra de konklusioner, vi selv var nået til på grundlag af hr. Janssen van Raays udmærkede betænkning for to år siden. Yderligere går konventi-
For there exists here for all true representatives of the people of Europe a duty to tell the national political instances that they are blind with their eyes open and deaf in one ear; in other words, that they run about with blinkers.
Moorhouse sionen, den nuværende Kommission, ville have mod til denne gang at komme med et klart svar og således bevise, at den er en europæisk institution og ikke en samling sendebud fra de nationale regeringer.
As the House is well aware the Commission has, in the past, always had the same attitude to air traffic as that expressed by so many speakers today, and in particular to the arguments so convincingly expressed in the Committee on Transport's resolution.
onen stik imod hele ånden i den fælles transportpolitik og i særdeleshed i den nye lufttransportpolitik for Fællesskabet, som netop i øjeblikket er begyndt at tage form.
If one has felt it necessary to stress in this House tonight the import ance of tomorrow's debate in the Dutch parliament then the robust answers should be emanating from national parliaments and governments in this area.
Hvordan kan det nu være? Er det bureaukratiets triumf over demokratiet?
Mr President, that is the political point I wished to make and all these technical details are beyond me.
For magterne synes bestemt at være upåvirkelige af Parlamentets og enhver andens stemme, og de synes at være særdeles ivrige efter at undgå alt for megen snak.
The whole drama around a European air traffic con trol has, in these days, taken on more the appearance of a sort of Black Peter game in which the participating countries take turns in accusing the others while completely ignoring the crying necessity for a real international European solution.
Buttafuoco. — (IT) Jeg skal indskrænke mig til hurtigt at tilslutte mig den beklagelse, der er kommet til udtryk over mangelen på en fælles transportpolitik, og kan derfor på egne og mine kollegers vegne fuldt og helt gå ind for hr. Albers' udmærkede betænkning.
Once it seemed as though the Netherlands was the naughty boy; now it would seem that it has passed on the dubious distinction in an easterly direction but the essential point is this : the real control of the air above 9 500 meters reverts to national hands; in other words, Eurocontrol as an institute would be kept on but it would be stripped of its most important task and Maastricht is in danger of being closed down.
Vi vil derfor påstå, at vi virkelig ikke kan tillade, at myndighederne slipper om ved dette uden yderligere snak, og vi vil derfor stærkt argumentere for, at man ser på forholdene med friske øjne, og jeg håber, at vi får et fyndigt svar fra Kommissionen.
I should now like nothing better than for the Commission, the existing European Commission, to summon up its courage and give us for once a robust reply and in so doing to prove that it is a European institute rather than a group of ambassadors from national governments.
Formanden. har ordet.
President. — I call the non-attached Members.
Berkhouwer. — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg vil også gerne have et klart svar fra Kommissionen, men jeg er bange for, at det igen ikke vil blive til ret meget. Den mand, som kaldes ansvarlig, er det ikke engang selv.
Mr Buttafuoco. — (IT) I simply wish to support very rapidly the protests which have been made here which stress the lack of a common transport policy and, on my own behalf and on behalf of my colleagues, express our full support for Mr Albers's report.
Europa-Parlamentets og Kommissionens stand punkter er fuldkommen tydelige.
The views of this House and those of the Commission are very clear.
Jeg tror altså, at mit bidrag, hvad det angår, kan være meget kort og meget tydeligt.
I feel therefore that as far as this goes my answer can be very short and very vigorous.
Jeg er enig i den måde, hvorpå problemet er fremlagt i hr. Albers' beslutning, en sober, tydelig og i mine øjne overbevisende måde.
I totally agree with the manner in which the problem is presented in Mr Albers's report, a sober, clear but, in my opinion, scarcely convincing manner.
Jeg tror faktisk, at der må rettes en fortsat appel til dem, som i sidste instans bærer ansvaret for en positiv beslutning, og jeg kan forsikre Dem om, at hvor Kommissionen kan gøre noget på dette punkt, er den ikke blind for lufttrafikkens problemer.
I subscribe to the view that a lasting appeal must be made to those who, in the final analysis, have the decisionmaking responsibility, and I can assure the House that where the Commission can be of any help it is not blind to aviation problems.
Det kan fremgå af den kendsgerning, at der på et stort antal andre områder i øjeblikket er konkrete forslag fra Kommissionen under drøftelse.
Mr President, this should be clear from the fact that discussions are currently taking place on a wide range of Commission proposals in other areas.
Det har hr. Moorehouse med rette peget på.
Mr Moorehouse rightly pointed this out.
Deraf kan det fremgå, at Kommissionen på sin side vil gøre alt muligt for at medvirke til den løsning, som også i dens øjne er den eneste rigtige.
From this it should be clear that the Commission, for its part, will do everything possible to contribute to the solution which it also esteems to be the only justifiable one.
(Mødet hævet kl. 20.00) (')
The vote will be taken at the next voting time.
Jeg ville så gerne have, at Kommis
(The sitting was closedat 8p.m.)1
Kommissionens videre behandling af Europa-Parlamentets udtalelser vedrørende dens forslag under mødeperioden i maj 1982
Commission action on opinions on its proposals delivered by the European Parliament at its May 1982 partsession
I overensstemmelse med de forpligtelser, Kommissionen har indgået efter aftale med Europa-Parlamentets præsidium, underretter Kommissionen ved begyndelsen af hver mødeperiode Europa-Parlamentets medlemmer om sin videre behandling af de udtalelser, Parlamentet har vedtaget under sin seneste mødeperiode som et led i høringsproceduren. proceduren.
As agreed with the Bureau of Parliament, the Commission informs Members at the beginning of every partsession of the action it has taken on opinions delivered at the pre vious partsession in the context of parliamentary consultation.
Under mødeperioden i maj 1982 imødekom Europa-Parlamentet Rådets anmodning om høring og vedtog 13 udtalelser om forslag fra Kommissionen.
At its May 1982 partsession the European Parliament delivered 13 opinions on Com mission proposals in response to Council requests for consultation.
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