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McCartin (PPE). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne takke hr. Muntingh for at have bragt dette emne på bane og hr. Mertens for hans meget udførlige og fremragende betænkning om hele emnet.
Mrs Schleicher (PPE), rapporteur. — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, the principle that the State should only introduce regulations for the sake of the common weal — in this case the good of the consumers — should also apply where European legislation is concerned, since réglementation for its own sake does not constitute any improvement.
Hr. Muntingh sagde, at han ikke havde ret til at tale.
Nor can I share the rapporteur's interpretation of the view taken by the House of Lords.
Men han har bestemt ret til at tale, og alle europæere har ret til at tale om emnet. Jeg er glad for hans interesse for dette, og der er helt bestemt intet i det, han sagde, som jeg kan være uenig i.
The fact is that the House of Lords did not reject a directive in principle, but, if I understand its recommendation rightly, took the view that a flexible directive was perfectly feasible.
Der er kun seks moseområder tilbage af typen højmoser — raised bog —, og det er de sidste i Europa — jeg gentager, disse er de sidste i Europa.
Consequently, you cannot cite the House of Lords as being against the use of the directive as a legal instrument.
For længe side betragtede man i Irland ofte en person, der kom fra heden eller fra mosen, som en person fra et tilbagestående område, og mange land boere blev blussende røde ved tanken om at blive kaldt en mosemand.
In the case of the labelling directive currently before us the Commission was faced with a very difficult task — indeed, as I see it, it was an almost impossible task even after intensive study of the problem.
Hvis de var til stede her i dag og kunne høre hr. Mertens og hr. Muntingh tale så oplyst og intelligent om de irske hedestrækningers skønhed, ville sådanne landboere genvinde deres stolthed.
I should like to thank the Commission for the work it has done and I hope it will understand the position of the rapporteur.
Jeg må sige, at jeg var stolt af den måde, hvorpå dette emne blev behandlet.
For your benefit, ladies and gentlemen, I should like briefly to outline the history of this proposal.
Forrige år blev en tredjedel af dette område opkøbt af et privat tørveproduktionsselskab i Dublin og på trods af de indvendinger, der blev fremsat af den nationale komité til moselandskabets bevarelse, er dette opkøbte område siden da blevet drænet som forberedelse til senere udnyttelse, og det betyder, at hele moseområdet vil blive tilintetgjort.
In 1979, the Council of Ministers adopted the directive on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to the labelling, presentation and advertising of foodstuffs for sale to the ultimate consumer, known as the 'labelling directive'.
Hr. formand, af de sidste eksisterende tyve eller tredive levende højmoser er over halvdelen i fare for at blive udnyttet i løbet af ca. 2 år; enten ejes de af tørveproduktionsselskaber eller skovbeplantningsselskaber, eller de vil inden længe blive opkøbt.
Article 2 of this directive deals with advertising and since the Council was unable to agree at that time as to what constituted advertising and advertising claims on a label, they looked for a way round this problem so that they would be able to adopt the directive at all.
Jeg kendte ikke navnene på alle de urter og planter, som hr. Mertens så fint beskrev, men jeg kendte kærulden og lyngen, og forskellige andre planter kendte vi af udseende. Hr. Muntingh og hr. Mertens har udarbejdet et dokument, som kan læses af folk, der er interesserede.
The sheer flexibility of the directive is,, in our view, evident from the fact that, of the 37 amendments which have been tabled, the Commission can accept Nos 1 to 18 and Nos 20, 23, 25, 27, 30, 31, 32 and 33 in their entirety.
Jeg er udmærket klar over, hr. formand, at jeg som nederlænder ikke har særlig megen ret til at tale om dette anliggende.
As far as I can see, the Council and'the Member States' governments are being more decisive in this respect than certain elements of the European Parliament.
I Nederlandene har vi opbrugt vore lyngområder fuldstændig, vi har dårligt nok nogen tillovers, og som nederlænder kan man derfor ikke
It would not be a good thing if, at the Council of Environment Ministers in June, it transpired that the Council had espoused a more constructive approach than has been reflected in certain speeches we have heard today.
Dette fører mig til mit næste punkt. Jeg tror, at vi skal bevare så meget som muligt af dette vigtige område, men vi må ikke forlange, at de husmænd, der ejer denne jord, ligesom andre husmænd skal lide
The Council, unable to agree on the formulation of Article 2(2) then passed the matter back to the Com mission which proposed that, in accordance with the procedure laid down in Article 100 of the Treaty, the Council should draw up a nonexhaustive list of claims
Mertens og alle dem, der interesserer sig for bevarelse, samt regeringsrepræsentanter og organisationer, der repræsenterer de mennesker, der ejer jorden, for at se, om vi kunne nå frem til en god løsning for fremtiden.
This would mean that the existing legislation, particularly after incorporation of the labelling direcitve with the general clause con tained in Article 2(1), would be adequate to deal with certain infringements in this field.
Jeg tror, at folk er villige til at samarbejde, hvis de får forståelse for behovet for bevarelse.
The process of incorporating this directive in national legislation is currently underway in all the Member States and should soon be completed.
Men jeg mener, at det er nødvendigt, at vi mødes og udformer en politik, der vil sikre bevarelser for frem tiden, og som også tilgodeser disse mennesker økonomiske behov.
The definition of advertising claims leads to the problem of the relationship between the proposal before us and the proposal on misleading and unfair advertising which is still before the Council.
Vi skal alle, hvis ellers Fællesskabet er interesseret i at bevare noget for fremtiden, sammen bære omkostningerne ved at gøre det.
This would mean in practice that, if we support this draft directive, two Council bodies will in future be dealing simultaneously with the problem of what constitutes 'advertising'.
Når vi taler om at erhverve jord, der tilhører landmænd, der behøver nogle flere hektarer for at få en indkomst af samme størrelse, som de hollandske landmænd har opnået ved at forbedre deres dårlige jordområder og indvinde moser og heder, må vi støtte disse menne sker, når de afstår denne jord og give dem erstatning for deres tab i samme omfang, som de ville have fået en gevinst ved at udvikle eller udnytte jorden til enten energimæssige eller landbrugsmæssige formål.
For this reason, and in view of the criticisms which have been levelled at this Commission proposal from various quarters, including even consumer associations and the competent Commission foodstuffs committee, the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection has decided with a clear majority in favour of referring the proposal before us back to the Commission, although the Socialist Group and Communist and Allies Group took the view that
Lalor (DEP). — (EN) Hr. formand, allerførst vil jeg i tråd med den beslutning, der blev truffet i formiddags, gerne erkende min baggrund.
Mr Sherlock (ED). — Mr President and colleagues, I rise to say that my group entirely supports Mrs Schleicher's report and will vote accordingly when tomorrow we come tö vote on it.
Det sidste, jeg gerne vil sige, er, at jeg ikke kan acceptere, at vi skal fratrække penge, der er afsat til dræning eller udviklingsformål.
I must take the opportunity to say that sometimes it seems to me to be very futile the way we go on churn ing out — or, under the guidance of the Commission, attempting to churn out — extra pieces of legislation which seem to find little hope of implementation and enforcement throughout all the Member States.
Vi bør lægge penge til med henblik på bevarelse.
I would draw your attention to Directive 79/112/EEC on labelling, which has not yet been implemented, three years later, in all the Member States.
Jeg mener, at det er den rette fremgangsmåde. Jeg tror ikke, at vi vil eller kan være uenige om det.
In addition, however, this proposal is along precisely the same lines as already set out by Parliament and the Council in the first and second consumer action programmes.
Jeg har fremsat nogle ændringsforslag, som jeg mener giver betænkningen større værdi, og det ville glæde mig, om Parlamentet kan støtte dem.
I do not think our Commissioner has been that far and that long removed from the processes of election himself to have forgotten the lesson that we must submit ourselves for reelection, and the time is coming closer.
Jeg må tilstå, at jeg i modsætning til mine kolleger har følt mig ret bedrøvet ved at læse denne beslutning og at bemærke mig indholdet af, hvad der forlanges.
A label should provide information — in other words, it should inform the consumer about the real and genuine properties of a product which is offered for sale.
Man anmoder Parlamentet om at godkende, at yderst værdifulde uberørte moseområder — både højmoser og terrændækkende moser — øjeblikkeligt overdrages fra staten på den ene side og fra et nationaliseret statsorgan på den anden side til en privat organisation eller komité, der tilsyneladende går under navnet den nationale komité til moselandskabets bevarelse.
Generally speaking, the information given on the label is one-sided, selective and full of praise for the product instead of neutral, complete and objective, and for this reason something must be done to curb misleading claims in the labelling and presentation of products.
Jeg ved ikke rigtigt, om der er nogen moser tilbage i hans land, men han talte som en person, der allerede havde stor viden, og jeg vil gerne komplimentere ham for det arbejde, han har udført.
The Commission proposal is too vague and will lead to numerous differences of interpretation which may well have to be fought out before the Court of Justice.
Ligesom hr. McCartin kan jeg også sige til hr. Muntingh, at jeg er glad for, at han har bragt emnet på bane.
We feel, therefore, that this proposal for a directive be referred back for revision.
Jeg har ingen indvendinger overhovedet imod, at der bliver talt talt om disse ting.
In view of this, therefore, the criticisms made in the report by Mrs Schleicher, which we are currently discussing, are out of place.
Jeg mener, at vi alle bør være bevidste over for behovet for bevarelse af menneskeskabte ting eller af det, som naturen overlader os.
Taking this negative attitude and biding our time as suggested will be of no service to either the consumer or the Commission.
Vi forstår ud fra begrundelsen, at denne komité nu er et år gammel, idet den blev nedsat i begyndelsen af 1982.
Mr President, the consumer is the Socialist Group's prime concern when dealing with proposals of this kind and we cannot, therefore, go along with Mrs Schleicher's report.
Ikke desto mindre spørger jeg, hr. formand, om det vil være korrekt af dette Parlament at beslutte, at 10 % af de samlede bevillinger til udviklingsprojekter for industrien og landbruget skal stilles til rådighed til naturbeskyttelsesforanstaltninger og overdrages denne selvbestaltede komité?
We must devise activities and lay down measures for the better protection and information of the consumer in the ten Member States. This is the job which Parliament has to do.
Men jeg må sige, hr. formand, at det, jeg tror, vi gerne vil gøre, er at prøve at finde den gyldne middelvej mellem de kommercielle behov hos de mennesker, der bor i disse områder, og behovet for bevarelse.
It is, however, true to say that the present proposal from the Commission will need to be adapted in the light of the directive on advertising and the rapporteur is in favour of this too.
Jeg mener, at det er det, der er det vigtigste.
This is expressed in simple terms in Amendment No 3.
Må jeg lige en passant fremhæve, at vi i Irland har meget lidt skov, for eksempel.
Obviously, in this case, we are think ing more in terms of 'presentation' or perhaps 'description' than of 'labelling'.
Vi har allerede de moser, der er blevet skåret væk og hvorfra tørven er udvundet.
This category includes, for example, vegetables, fruit and uhpackaged meat, etc.
Hvis vi i Det europæiske Fællesskab havde en bedre skovpolitik — hvilket ville være en stor hjælp for Irland — kunne vi tilplante mange af disse områder med træer, hvilket ville skabe fremtidig beskæftigelse i disse områder og også i høj grad forskønne landskabet.
I would first of all point out in this connection that, in view of the European elections, this would mean in practice that Parliament would not deal with this subject again before 1985 or 1986, and if we then consider the additional time which it would take for the proposal to get through the Council of Ministers followed by the time which would have to elapse before it entered into force, this proposal to hold the proposal in abeyance would in practice mean that no decision would be reached on this subject before the end of the present decade.
Det overrasker mig, at De, hr. Collins, som er formand for miljøudvalget og erklæret socialist, kan være fortaler for denne overdragelse fra staten til private hænder.
We are against this passive resistance because we are in favour of progress in European legislation — and consumer policy should certainly be no exception in this respect.
Jeg er helt enig i, at fredning — og bestemt også genskabelse — af de udnyttede moseområder er meget stærkt tiltrængt.
The Commission has its duty to fulfill and therefore cannot refuse to act in accordance with this request by the European legislators.
Begrundelsen giver behørigt vort tørveproduktionsselskab, Bord na Móna, æren for at have skabt 5 000 til 6 000 stærkt tiltrængte arbejdspladser og for at have sparet 100 mio irske pund om året, som ellers ville være blevet brugt til at betale for den olie, der importeres af Fællesskabet.
There are also, as we see it, sound practical rea sons for a directive of this kind since the Community needs arrangements along the lines indicated in the proposals so as to establish standard rules for the labelling and advertizing of foodstuffs within the Community.
Selv om vi med rette er bekymrede for det vilde dyreliv og dets fredning, må vi ikke glemme menne-
I should like to make a quite general remark in this connection.
Hr. formand, det er nødvendigt at ofre dette spørgsmål større opmærksomhed, fordi de menne sker, der bor i disse områder, ønsker at prøve at høste fortjenester.
I can understand the complicated situation in which the rapporteur finds herself and I would be grateful if she would show the same understanding for my situa tion.
De ønsker fortsat at bo der, og det nytter ikke ret meget at sige til dem: »Hør her, rør ikke ved dette område«.
This is not an easy matter and I have the impression that some of the misunderstandings are of a purely linguistic and terminological nature.
De ønsker fortsat at bo der.
This, however, is merely a side issue.
Hvis vi siger til dem: »Hør her, I må ikke benytte disse områder til jeres eget økonomiske formål«, må vi finde en anden udvej.
However, the use of the word 'Werbebehauptung' in the title as a translation of 'labelling' could indeed give rise to a misunderstand ing of this kind.
Det ville være en god idé at arrangere en konference i Irland med deltagelse af Kommissionen og folk som hr. Muntingh, hr.
The motion for a resolution currently before us con tains a proposal to the Commission to hold the propo
Europa-Parlamentets forhandlinger
Indeed, this also applies in the case of relations with third countries.
Lalor som bekendt giver et godt landbrugsudbytte.
— and I might mention for the benefit of the rapporteur that success would appear likely.
Alt dette giver os et dilemma, og vi vender os til EF-institutio-nerne for at blive hjulpet ud af det dilemma.
I cannot at present share the fears which have been expressed that this will inevitably take a few years yet.
skene eller overse det faktum, at vor tøvestyrelse udarbejdede vor tørudvindingsplan for over 30 år siden på et tidspunkt, hvor to ud af fem børn, der blev født i Irland, var dømt til at skulle emigrere!
One and the same expression can mean different things in different languages under certain circumstances and there would be no way of formulating it with adequate prospects of certainty and reliability from the legal point of view.
Desuden dækker der irske moser ca. 15 % af vort energibehov, og vi er et áf de lande i Europa, der importerer den største mængde energi, hvis ikke vi er det land, der importerer mest.
Three Member States have so far defaulted in this respect and we have initiated the pro cedure provided for in Article 169 against two of them, but so far not against the third, i.e. Greece, since that country acceded at a later date and is still in the transitional period.
Derfor skal vi være meget forsigtige med enhver foranstaltning, der måtte sigte mod at begrænse eller nedsætte vor egne energi ressourcer.
This would be playing into the hands of those who do not act on the principle of faithfulness to the Treaties and, as we see it, this approach would in the long term not benefit the Community but run
Det er altså de problemer, der skal overvindes, og jeg håber, at der bliver yderligere konsultationer med de direkte involverede i denne sag.
Mr Mertens (PPE), rapporteur. — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, this item on the agenda brings to you the report by the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection on the protection of the Irish bogs.
Vi har et meget dygtigt halvstatsligt organ, Bord na Móna, som med helt har udnyttet ressourcerne i vore moser igennem årene.
This report follows on from a motion for a resolution by Mr Muntingh which dealt with the same subject and the same con cern, namely that this type of landscape is slowly but surely disappearing as the bogs in Ireland vanish.
Herved har det bidraget betydeligt til den irske økonomi og til det antal arbejdspladser, vi har til rådighed i vort land.
I should not be at all surprised if some Member or other did not ask whether this was really a matter for the European Parliament or whether it was simply a matter for the Irish. I trust that everyone who is going to
Jeg skal understrege, at styrelsen har udført et godt stykke arbejde i mellemtiden og har bidraget til at standse emigrationen, skabt omfattende beskæftigelse målt efter vor nationale målestok og hjulpet os mærkbart ved at bekæmpe vore energiproblemer i de seneste år.
Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection that Ireland cannot solve this problem alone, and consequently we should be willing — and the Commission is called on to do so in the motion for a resolution — to consider how financial aid could be made available.
Hermed være ikke sagt, at jeg ikke forventer, at vores irske regering og dens institutioner vil acceptere fuldt ud, som jeg gør det, at det sikres, at de moselandskaber, der nævnes af hr. Martens i bilag II, bliver fredet.
This is gone into in the report. You will also find mentioned in the report all the different types of plant which I have no time to mention here. -
Jeg støtter fuldt ud den tilskyndelse.
There are a few traces in southern Scandinavia and in England.
Det kan jeg helt anbefale.
You can perhaps still find bogs in North America but there is not such a wide variety as you find in Ireland.
Hvis I i Europa, hr. Muntingh, ønsker at bevare noget i Irland, som I ødelagde af økonomiske grunde, hvorfor skulle vi så ikke tilbydes en form for kompensation, hvis vort folk nu skal give afkald på fortjenesten?
There is one last thing I should like to say on behalf of the committee. This development should be accompanied by scientific investigation and research so that the very best is done.
Hr. Mertens sagde, at han i sin beslutning burde have skabt mulighed for, at der kan ydes kompensation, men han gjorde det ikke.
Lastly, let me say on behalf of the committee that I hope the House will endorse this report.
Protopapadakis (PPE). — (GR) Hr. formand, hver gang man forsøger at beskytte det naturlige miljø, enten det nu drejer sig om Irlands moseområder, om de skotske øer, som det drejede sig om i går, eller om de ægæiske øer, som vi måske ligeledes vil drøfte en dag, må man begynde med at tale om beskyttelsen af de mennesker, der bor i disse områder.
Mr Muntingh (S). — (NL) Mr President, there is an Irish saying which goes 'You can take the man from the bog but you cannot take the bog from the man' but I am afraid that this may no longer apply in the future. Until a few decades ago 10% of Ireland was covered with bogs,'raised bogs accounting for 7%.
Et naturligt miljø uden mennesker er uden værdi.
However, studies have been carried out in recent years and have yielded genuinely disturbing results.
Men disse mennesker vil gerne leve under de samme betingelser, som vi ønsker at leve under.
Only a few per cent, no more, of the total raised bog is still in its natural state and these few percent are split over twenty or so areas, which are listed in Mr Mertens' excellent report.
Miljøbeskyttelse må derfor gå hånd i hånd med erhvervmæssig udvikling.
As regards raised bogs, there are only six of this kind left and these are the last in Europe — I repeat, these are the last in Europe.
Jeg kan af denne grund ikke tilslutte mig forslaget om at begrænse midlerne til udvikling af industri og land brug til fordel for miljøbeskyttelse.
Of the blanket bogs too there are only a few remaining in their natural state. The seriousness of the situation can be seen from Carbury bog in county Kildare.
Jeg ville fore trække, at midlerne til landbrugsudvikling og til industriel udvikling blev forøget, således at disse erhvervsgrene kunne bestride de større udgifter, der er nødvendige for at opnå en i miljømæssig henseende forsvarlig udvikling. På denne måde ville vi kunne sikre disse menneskers livsgrundlag og bevare deres traditioner, og det ville være en hensigtsmæssig miljøbeskyttelsespolitik.
Towards the middle of last year a third of this bog was purchased by a private peat development company from Dublin and in spite of the objections on the part of the National Peatlands Preservation Committee, this section has since been drained in preparation for extraction of the peat, which means that the whole bog will be des troyed.
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Pattison (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg ser generelt med glæde på denne betænkning, for der er mange positive aspekter deri.
know the names of the herbs and plants that Mr Mer tens so ably described, but I knew bog cotton and heather, and various other plants we knew by sight.
Den beviser for os, hvis vi ellers behøvede beviser i Irland, at vi har et meget værdi fuldt aktiv, som er genstand for vore europæiske naboers og andres misundelse.
I believe that those of us who knew the bogs, who worked in them and who reclaimed them to grass thought that we were doing something very important, which indeed we were.
Narjes, medlem af Kommissionen. — (DE) Kommissionen takker ordføreren samt udvalget om miljø- og sundhedsanliggender og forbrugerbeskyttelse for den udmærkede, udførlige og i enhver henseende frem ragende betænkning.
However, I am not here as a Dutchman, but as a European and if we look around and see that nature is going to thè dogs all over Europe, I think the European Community in the form of the Commission must provide aid to preserve areas of great natural importance in Europe.
Den deler den opfattelse, der kommer til udtryk i beslutningsforslaget, at det er nødvendigt at bevare visse irske moselandskaber af international og også videnskabelig betydning.
When I see that Irish legislation on nature conservation is inadequate and that anyone is free to use the recently developed machines to blithely exploit the few remaining areas of bog I say that something should be done about it.
Jord er i Irland en mangelvare; der er ikke ret meget.
We should add money for the purpose of conservation.
Bortset fra Luxembourg formoder jeg, at vi har mindre jord end noget andet land i EF.
I believe that this is the man ner in which we should approach the subject.