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Der skal ikke skabes ulemper på andre områder.
It should not cause disadvantages elsewhere.
Vi må se, hvordan vi kan løse problemet i den pågældende medlemsstat.
We must see how we can achieve this in the Member State concerned.
I december havde det britiske konservative parti en udsendelse på TV, hvori det angreb Labourpartiets politik for udmeldelse af EF og propaganderede for fortsat medlemsskab.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) I should like to say to the honourable Member that he should have found some encouragement in my first answer.
Den følgende dag påbegyndte Kommissionen en række pressekonferencer i Det forenede Kongerige om samme emne.
It should have shown him that considerable progress has been made
Jeg har muligvis misforstået det, De sagde, men jeg forstod det derhen, at De sagde, at da andre grupper åbenbart ikke ønskede at stille spørgsmål, ville De give to socialister efter
I may have misunderstood what you said, but I understood you to say that as other groups
8.3.83 studeret resultaterne fra de seneste suppleringsvalg erklære Dem enig i, at hvis der er én ting, der er sikker, så er det, at Labourpartiet ikke har det store flertal af det britiske folk bag sig?
It may well be that other groups are refraining from asking questions because they want to get on to subsequent questions, in which case it would be quite inexcusable to call two Socialists on their own.
Genscher, formand for Rådet. — (DE) Kommissionen betjener sig af de forskellige medier for at informere befolkningen i medlemsstaterne om Det europæiske Fællesskabs virksomhed.
Does the Council accept the right of the Commission to interfere this way in the internal politics of a country and does it accept the right of the Com mission to liaise with one political party against another?
(Bifald fra den europæiske demokratiske gruppe)
Mr Genscher, President-in-Office of the Council. — (DE) The Commission makes use of the various media to inform the public in the Member States of the activities of the European Communities.
Såvel i Deres land som i Forbundsrepublikken Tyskland er terningerne kastet.
Mrs Kellett-Bowman (ED). — That is not fair!
Kompetencen og ansvaret for indholdet af denne information, der — som det ofte er tilfældet i demokratiske stater — kan give anledning til protester, er Kommissionens.
The responsibility for the content of these information campaigns, which — as is regularly the case in democratic countries — may give rise to protests, is borne by the Commission.
Jeg kan altså på ingen måde acceptere den i spørgsmålet indeholdte insinuation, at det drejer sig om indblanding i et lands indre anliggender. gender.
I cannot therefore in any way accept the insinuation in the question that there has been interference in the internal affairs of a Member State.
Lomas (S). — (EN) Det er en udbredt opfattelse, hr. Genscher.
Mr Lomas (S). — That view is widely held, Mr Genscher.
Jeg har ikke den ringeste indvending mod debatter og information mellem de to partier . ..
I do not object in the least to debate or exchange of information between the two parties...
(Formanden anmodede taleren om at stille et spørgsmål)
(The president urged the speaker to put his question)
Ja, jeg vil stille et spørgsmål.
Yes, I am going to ask a question.
Men jeg må vel have lov til at indlede det med et par sætninger.
Surely I am allowed to preface it with a couple of sentences.
Jeg ved, at De ikke bryder Dem om dette, hr. formand, men jeg håber, hr. rådsformand, at De vil have tålmodighed med mig et øjeblik.
I know you do not like this, Mr President, but I hope Mr President-in-Office you will bear with me for a minute.
Israël (DEP).— (FR) Hr. rådsformand, hvis De tillader en franskmand at blande sig i denne debat, ville jeg godt spørge Dem, hvordan Rådet ville stille sig, hvis Kommissionen var taget til Storbritannien for at sige, at dette land burde forlade Fællesskabet?
Mr Genscher. — (DE) I shall do so not as a man but as President of the Council.
Jeg ønsker ikke, det skal se ud, som om jeg har noget, imod en ærlig debat og meningsforskelle mellem partierne, eller for den sags skyld inden for mit eget parti ...
I do not want to appear to be objecting to honest debate and differences between the parties, or indeed in my own party for that matter. ..
(Formanden anmodede taleren om at stille sit spørgsmål)
President. — I wanted to ask Mrs Kellett-Bowman whether she wished to put a supplementary question.
Genscher. — (DE) I dette tilfælde ville Rådet have sagt, at Kommissionen havde benyttet sig af retten til frit at ytre sig, omend den havde givet udtryk for en forkert mening.
(The President again urged the speaker to put his ques tion)
Formanden. — Vi vil ikke lade dette udarte sig til et britisk slagsmål. Alligevel vil jeg give ordet til et par kolleger fra venstre og højre.
Mrs Kellett-Bowman (ED). — No, Mr President, but there are some very important questions on the Social Fund that we shall not reach if...
Hvis De giver mig en chance for at nå frem til det, vil jeg stille det.
If you give me a chance to get to it, I will.
Hvis Kommissionen fortsat blander sig på den ene side i denne interne politiske debat i Storbritannien, vil Rådet så i hvert fald forsøge at overtale den til at fortælle sandheden og ikke fortabe sig i vilde spekulationer?
If the Commission are going to continue interfering on one side in this internal political debate in Britain, will the Council at least try to persuade them to tell the truth and not indulge in wild speculation?
Jeg har ikke stor tiltro til, at den britiske regering vil fortælle sandheden om ret meget, men måske kan Kommissionen overtales til at optræde korrekt.
I hardly expect the British Government to tell the truth about hardly anything, but perhaps the Commission could be per suaded to behave in a proper manner.
Formanden. — Hr. rådsformand, jeg må forstslå fast, at spørgsmålet ikke var rettet til Dem, men til Kommissionen.
I wish to point out again unequivocally that when the House is interested in a subject, it is immaterial whether the questions come from the right or from the left.
Enright (S). — (EN) Er Rådet ikke klar over, at Kommissionen med sine krumspring ved den lejlighed i realiteten ydede en betydelig hjælp til den måde, hvorpå fru Thatcher forsøger at få os ud af Fælles skabet?
President. — Mr President-in-Office, may I first point out that the question is addressed not to you but to the Commission. However, you are free to answer it if you so wish.
Som et medlem af Labour-partiet, der ønsker at forblive i Fællesskabet, er jeg desorienteret over den måde, hvorpå vi støtter en Thatcher-præget politik, og den mangel på kompetence, Kommissionen udviste i den pågældende propagandakampagne, var rystende.
In December, the British Conservative Party had a broadcast on TV in which they attacked the policy of the Labour Party for withdrawal from the EEC and produced propaganda in favour of continued membership.
Vil Rådet derfor give Kommissionen en over fingrene for fuldstændig at have forfejlet sin målsætning?
The following day the Commission started a series of press conferences in Britain on the same theme.
Genscher. — (DE) Jeg kan kun give udtryk for Rådets opfattelse, nemlig at Kommissionen også har ret til frit at ytre sig, en ret, der hører til de grund læggende rettigheder i vort Fællesskab, og at den også kan udøve denne ret til frit at ytre sig i de tilfælde, hvor den er af en anden opfattelse end oppositionen i en medlemsstat.
It is commonly believed in Britain that this could not have been a coincidence and that there was collusion between the Commission and the Conservative Party in order to denigrate
Genscher. — (DE) Kommissionen ville ikke efter komme sin pligt til at tale sandhed, hvis den ikke siger sin mening, for den stemmer overens med fru Thatchers.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) I can only say on the Council's behalf that the Commission also has the right to free dom of expression, one of the fundamental rights in our Community, and that it may exercise this right of freedom of expression even when its views differ from those held by the opposition in a Member State.
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Genscher. — (DE) Jeg skal ikke formaste mig til at udtale mig om rigtige eller forkerte tidspunkter!
(Applause from the European Democratic Group)
hvorvidt et land bliver medlem eller ikke, forbliver medlem eller ikke, er et spørgsmål, der angår hele Fællesskabet og ikke et internt politisk anliggende for et land.
Mr Hutton (ED). — Does the President-in-Office accept that in this particular instance the timing of the broadcast and of the start of the Commission's press conferences was, in fact, entirely fortuitous?
Den, der forstår de europæiske traktaters ånd rigtigt, vil give mig ret i, at viljen til at være et Fællesskab er en fælles vilje.
President. — Mr Welsh, we have no wish to carry out a posthumous electoral -campaign here.
Afgørelsen til fordel for Fællesskabet har skabt denne fælles vilje, og organernes interesse, ja, deres pligt, består i at bringe denne fælles vilje til udtryk overalt.
The die has been cast both in your country and in the Federal Republic of Germany.
Hermed fører de en politik, der hverken er mod det ene eller det andet parti, men for Europa.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) I cannot presume to have an ' opinion on right or wrong timing.
Og vi skulle ikke spilde vor tid med det under Rådets spørgetid.
Secondly, I was asked whether I had noted the results of recent by-elections in Britain.
Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Mit spørgsmål er en fortsættelse af det spørgsmål, som hr. Megahy stillede, og vedrører helt konkret Grækenland, hvor det spørgsmål, som vil dominere valget til Europa-Parlamentet i 1984, netop vil være Grækenlands løsrivelse fra EF. Derfor vil jeg spørge formanden for Rådet:
Mr Prag (ED). — Mr President, I really cannot understand why a question should be put in Question Time to the Council — which should be used for eliciting important information on the Council's policies, and not for silly party political points — when it relates to the view of the Commission.
Agter Rådet at træffe konkrete forholdsregler for at forhindre indblanding fra fællesskabsinstitutionernes side, fra Kommissionen eller Europa-Parlamentet, i den politiske kamp, som vil finde sted op til valget i 1984, når en stor del af Grækenlands politiske kræfter var imod Grækenlands indtræden i EF? Jeg vil gerne bede om et konkret og kompetent svar fra formanden.
Mr Israël (DEP). — (FR) Mr President-in-Office of the Council, if you do not mind a Frenchman joining in the debate, I should like to ask what the Council's position would have been if the Commission had been to the United Kingdom to announce that this country had to leave the common market.
Føler han derfor ikke, at det er på tide, at Rådet indfører en række specifikke begrænsninger og fastsætter ret ningslinjer for denne form for politisk indblanding, før den breder sig til andre lande end Det forenede Kongerige?
Mr Genscher. — (DE) In that case, the Council would have said that the Commission had exercised its right to freedom of expression, even though its opinion was wrong.
Formanden. — Kære kollega, det spørgsmål, De stiller, har Overhovedet ingen forbindelse med det emne, vi behandler. Jeg beklager meget, men jeg kan ikke tillade dette spørgsmål.
President. — Although I have no wish to see this degenerate into a British squabble, I shall nonetheless call some Members from the right and from the left.
Formanden. — Når jeg her formand, tilhører jeg ikke nogen gruppe.
Mr Enright (S). — Is the Council not aware that in fact the Commission, in its cavortings on that occasion, was backing up very strongly the way in which Mrs Thatcher is trying to pull us out of the Community?
Genscher. — (DE) Man må — og hermed besvarer jeg det ærede medlems første spørgsmål — naturligvis altid skelne mellem information og propaganda.
Mr Genscher. — (DE) A distinction must, of course, always be made — this in reply to the honourable Member's first question — between information and propaganda.
Det er helt normalt.
There is nothing unusual about that.
Hvad nu det andet spørgsmål angår, må jeg måske have lov til endnu en gang at vende tilbage til det spørgsmål, der ligger til grund for hele debatten.
As regards the second question, I should like to revert to the question which gave rise to this discussion.
Der hedder det, at det britiske konservative parti i december i en TV-udsendelse havde angrebet Labourpartiets politik for udmeldelse af EF og gjort propaganda for fortsat medlemskab.
It says that in a television broadcast in December the British Conservative Party attacked the Labour Party's policy
Formanden. — Kære kollega, jeg lod Dem stille et spørgsmål til sidst, men De har ikke stillet noget konkret spørgsmål.
Mr Alavanos (COM). — (GR) I do not think that the question is unconnected, Mr President.
Alligevel vil jeg bede hr. Genscher om at svare, og straks herefter vil vi gå videre til næste spørgsmål.
It is connected in every way, and it is noteworthy that the previous speaker from the Socialist Group, to which you your self belong, very rightly sought to set the matter in a more general context, because it concerns not only Britain but Greece as well.
Genscher. — (DE) Rådet har rent faktisk endnu ikke taget stilling til dette spørgsmål.
President. — (GR) When I am presiding I belong to no group.
Welsh (ED). — (EN) Mener rådsformanden ikke, at Storbritannien i realiteten er medlem af det europæiske rhonetære system, for så vidt som det bidrager med sine reserver til at støtte ECU'en og deltager i fastsættelsen af ECU'ens værdi, og fordi finansministrene regelmæssigt afholder aktive konsultationer angående økonomisk og finansiel forvaltning?
for withdrawal from the EEC and produced propaganda in favour of continued membership. It goes on to say: 'The following day the Commission started a series of press conferences in Britain on the same theme.
Genscher. — (DE) Hvis det ærede medlems spørgsmål drejer sig om, hvorvidt jeg er af den opfattelse, at den britiske regering har behov for støtte, vil jeg sige, at den britiske regering som alle andre medlemmer af Rådet og alle andre medlemsstater ikke har noget behov for politisk støtte, i hvert fald ikke fra Rådet eller Kommissionen.
It is commonly believed in Britain that this could not have been a coincidence and that there was collusion between the Commission and the Conservative Party in order to denigrate the policy of the Labour Party which is supported by a large majority of the British people. Does the Council accept the right of the Commission to interfere in the internal policies of a country and does it accept the right of the Com mission to liaise with one political party against another?'
Formanden. — Da spørgeren ikke er til stede, vil spørgsmål nr. 4 blive besvaret skriftligt (l).
This extends to the Community's interest in seeing Member States remaining in the Community.
Kan han ligeledes tilslutte sig, at mange af os fra denne side af forsamlingen med iver ser frem til den dag, hvor Storbritannien i realiteten også deltager i vekselkursmekanismen ?
The organs of the European Community must be permitted to express this view even if there is an internal debate on the sub ject in individual Member States, since the question of whether or not a country becomes a member, whether or not it remains a member concerns the whole Com munity.
Spørgsmål nr. 5 af Israël (H-703/82):
It is not an internal rnatter for that country.
Genscher. — (DE) Rent faktisk drejer det sig jo om, hvordan Det forenede Kongerige deltager i vekselkursmekanismen, og naturligvis vil jeg, når De spørger mig personligt herom, hilse dette med glæde.
We find at home that the Labour Parry make it part of their policy to undermine the authority of the judges, the police and anybody who acts in an objective way, in order to further their own ends in trying to make people dissatisfied with everything that happens. pens.
Har Rådet fornylig haft lejlighed til at drøfte, hvilke grunde Storbritannien objektivt har for ikke at tilslutte sig det europæiske monetære system, og kan det angive disse grunde over for Europa-Parlamentet?
President. — Lord Härmar Nicholls, I allowed you to put a question but it was not very precise. However, I shall ask Mr Genscher to reply before moving on to the next question.
von der Vring (S). — (DE) At De personligt går ind for Storbritanniens deltagelse i monetære system, anser jeg for en selvfølge.
Those who understand the spirit of the European Treaties correctly will admit that the will to form a Community is a common will.
Jeg må imidlertid spørge mig selv, om Rådet ikke som Råd har en mening om, hvorfor et medlem af Fælleskabet ikke tilslutter sig denne vigtige del af Fællesskabet, og hvor længe der vil gå inden.
The decision to estab lish the Community formed this common will, and the organs have an interest in expressing this common will everywhere, and indeed it is their duty to do so.
Skal jeg forstå det derhen, at Rådets mangel på interesse går så vidt, at man ikke har nogen mening derom?
By so doing, they are not making policy for or against any party but policy for Europe.
Vi har en halv time, og praksis — om det nu passer Dem eller ej — tilsiger os at over holde forretningsordenen, og det betyder en time til spørgsmålene til Rådet og en halv time til spørgsmålene til udenrigsministrene.
Mr Alavanos (COM). — (GR) My question is a con tinuation of the question put by Mr Megahy and refers specifically to Greece where the issue which will dominate the elections to the European Parliament in 1984 will be that of Greek withdrawal from the EEC.
Hr. formand, jeg anmoder Dem om at gå videre med spørgsmål nr. 27.
I would like, therefore, to ask the President of the Council the following question.
Formanden. — Hr. Galland, vi startede med forsinkelse som følge af bekendtgørelsen om den aktuelle og uopsættelige debat.
President. — As the author is not present, Question No 4 will be answered in writing.1
Jeg foreslår, at vi behandler hr. Israels spørgsmål og derefter går over til spørgsmål nr. 27.
• Question No 5 by Mr Israel (H-703/82):
Genscher. — (DE) Det forenede Kongerige må natur ligvis selv afgøre, om og hvornår det kan føre en vekselkurspolitik, der kan bringes i samklang med forpligtelserne inden for det europæiske monetære system.
Has the Council recently had occasion to discuss the objective reasons preventing the United King dom from joining the European monetary system and can it indicate these reasons to the European Parliament?
Genscher, formand for Rådet. — (DE) Rådet er af den opfattelse, at det ikke tilkommer det at fremsætte en udtalelse om grunden til, at Det forenede Kongerige hidtil ikke har tilsluttet sig de med det europæiske monetære system forbundne vekselkurs- og interventionsmekanismer. tionsmekanismer.
Does the Council intend to take specific steps to prevent Community institutions, such as the Commission and the European Parliament, from meddling in the political struggle that will develop in Greece in the run-up to the 1984 elections, given that a substantial portion of the body politic in Greece opposes Greek membership of the EEC?
Israël (DEP). — (FR) Hr. rådsformand, Rådet, som er Fællesskabets øverste instans, har til opgave at iværksætte alle fællesskabspolitikker, herunder også EMS.
Mr Galland (L). — (FR) Point of order, Mr President.
Mener De ikke, at det ville være godt for EMS, hvis Storbritannien deltog, især da det britiske pund for øjeblikket ikke synes at stå tilstrækkeligt stærkt? Ville en tilslutning til EMS ikke være til gavn for det britiske pund og for Europa, som det er Deres opgave at forsvare?
This first part of Question Time is a little disappointing.
Sir Brandon Rhys Williams (ED). — (EN) Mener rådsformanden ikke, at det vil være næsten umuligt at binde det britiske pund til D-marken, før der er skabt et absolut frit og fælles kapitalmarked mellem London og Frankfurt, hvormed der i realiteten også vil være skabt et fællesskabsmarked for kapital i stedet for de individuelle fiannscentre, hvor markeds vilkårene ikke altid er de samme?
President. — (GR) Mr Alavanos, your question has absolutely no connection with the matter being discussed.
(') Se bilag af 9. 3. 1983.
See Annex of 9. 3. 1983.
Europa-Parlamentets forhandlinger
It is not simply a question of yes or no.
Nr. 1-296/69 for nylig undlod klart at give udtryk for deres misbilligelse af forbudet mod Solidaritet i Polen og undlod at give det polske folk blot moralsk støtte i denne nødens stund?
Mr Genscher, President-in-Office of the Council. — (DE) The Council believes that it is not entitled to comment on the reasons that have so far prevented the United Kingdom from participating in the exchange rate and intervention mechanisms of the European monetary system.
Genscher. — (DE) Jeg mener ikke, vi bør glemme, at også andre valutaer deltager, uden at der findes det af Dem ønskede kapitalmarked.
Mr Israël (DEP). — (FR) Mr President-in-Office of the Council, the Council, the supreme body of the Community, is responsible for implementing all our common policies, including the EMS.
Bortset fra det gentager jeg, at det er Det forenede Kongeriges egen afgørelse, hvornår der i dette land er skabt forudsætninger for en deltagelse i mekanismen i fuldt omfang.
Would he, therefore, accept that the way forward towards a European monetary system is to work for a united European market for capital, and that Frankfurt and London might well be the pioneers in implementing the Treaty in that respect? pect?
Det ser nu ud til, at vi kun- har tyve minutter tilbage af denne del af spørgetiden.
If you ask the Council President personally, all I can say is that the more countries that belong to the EMS, the better we would like it.
Vil De derfor forlænge mødet, hr. formand?
Nevertheless, I say again that it is for the United Kingdom itself to decide whether it meets the require ments for full participation in the mechanism.
Herman (PPE). — (FR) Jeg er lidt skuffet over Deres svar angående Deres interesse i at se Storbritannien som deltager i det europæiske monetære system.
Mr Herman (PPE). — (FR) I am somewhat disappointed with your answer about your concern to see the United Kingdom join the EMS.
Det forekommer mig, at alle må være interesserede heri.
I think everyone has an interest in this.
Formanden. — Nej, hr. kollega, vil afslutter drøftelsen præcis kl. otte, og jeg vil bede Dem om ikke at komme med flere bemærkninger, således at vi ikke spilder endnu mere tid.
Would he further accept that many of us on this side of the House look forward eagerly to the day when Britain does in fact participate in the exchange rate mechanism as well?
De er selv på strålende vis genvalgt i Deres land, og det er jeg meget glad for.
You yourself have just been brilliantly re-elected in your country and I am very pleased about this.
Hr. Kohl har under hele valgkampen holdt meget pro-europæiske taler, og det vil sige, at De af Deres vælgere har fået mandat til at forsvare den europæiske idé, og dermed også den europæiske monetære integration.
Throughout his campaign, Mr Kohl made very proEuropean speeches — which means that your voters have given you the job of defending the idea of Europe and, therefore, European monetary integration.
Det giver Dem jo en ekstra forpligtelse . ..
This means that you have an additional duty ...
Formanden. — Hr. Herman, spørgsmål, ikke holde foredrag.
President. — Mr Herman, you must put a question,
De Ti's udenrigsministre har siden den 13. 12.
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1981, datoen for indførelse af krigsretstilstand i Polen, ved gentagne lejligheder understreget Det europæiske Fællesskabs sympati med det polske folk.
Since 13 December 1981, the day on which martial law was imposed in Poland, the Foreign Ministers of the Ten have repeatedly assured the Polish people of the sympathy of the European Community.
De vil også gøre dette fremover og handle i overens stemmelse hermed.
They will continue to do so and to act accordingly.