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Hvis det er rigtigt, som det er angivet i et værk af en funktionær i Fællesskabet, at Østlandene i 1973 var de eneste liebhavere til vore 200 000 tons overskud af smør, var det naturligvis umuligt at få en markedspris i den sammenhæng.
If it is correct, as was shown by a work produced by a Community official, that in 1973 the countries of the Eastern Bloc were the only source of demand for our 200 000 tonnes of butter surpluses, then under those conditions there could not be any market prices.
Tyrrell. — (EN) Fru formand, i første sætning i begrundelsen henviser hr. Aigner til sensationelle begivenheder.
As I said at the beginning, I think that the proposed resolution is, by and large, entirely acceptable, and I hope that as many as possible of us vote for it.
Da jeg selv og andre fremlagde de beslutninger, der gav anledning til denne betænkning, min den 16. juni 1980 og den anden den 13. februar 1981, kendte vi ikke alle kendsgerningerne, sådan som vi gør nu.
But I would ask the Commission in its further work with this proposed resolution to maintain a clear separation between trade with the Comecon countries and policy on exports of agricultural produce as such. They are not quite the same thing.
Der er ret ejendommeligt, tør jeg nok sige, at kommentarerne præciserer, at der ikke er tale om at anmode om standsning af eksporten til Sovjetunionen.
It is rather curious, I must say, for the explanatory statement to point out that 'there has never been any question of demanding that exports 'to the USSR should cease.'
Hvorfor så denne forsigtighed i forklaringen?
Why, therefore, does this cautionary note appear in the explanation?
Skulle vi ved at læse disse kommentarer og påhøre alt det, der er blevet sagt, være kommet til at frygte, at der faktisk er en tendens til at afskaffe eksporten til Sovjetunionen, og er der måske en frygt for at se denne betænkning glide lige så stille fra budgetkontrollen over i den politiske diskrimination?
Should we really have suspected on reading these comments, and bearing in mind all that has been said, that there was truly a move afoot to stop exports to the USSR and that this report might be sliding insidiously from budgetary control to political discrimination?
Som konklusion: vi kan støtte betænkningen, som den er, fordi det i alt væsentligt drejer sig om budget kontrol, men vi misbilliger kommentarerne, og vi vil ikke støtte ændringsforslagene.
Mrs Desouches. — (FR) Madam President, colleagues, the report which has been put before us today is an ambiguous one, and I think the rapporteur's remarks have only served to increase that ambiguity. guity.
Dette er derfor ikke blot, hr. Irmer, er spørgsmål om at se ind i fremtiden. Det er en undersøgelse af, hvad der er sket i fortiden.
Indeed, the text of the proposed resolution is correct in itself, both in what I would call its apparent motives and in its form, even if some paragraphs might perhaps have been better drafted.
Vi står her over for en fælles skabspolitik, der gik totalt i fisk.
I think we are all in favour of efficacious, stringent budgetary control, greater consistency in exports, defence of the Community
Vi må finde ud af, hvorfor den gjorde det.
President. — I call Mr Habsburg.
Hvis der er nogen, der har skyld en for det, må det frem i lyset.
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Derfor håber jeg, at Deres gruppe, som selv har ansvaret for et af disse historiske forslag til beslutning, der først for nylig er nået frem til behandling i Parlamentet, nemlig den, der er fremsat af hr. De Clerq m.fl., fornyet til overveje vore ændringsforslag, som naturligvis er faktiske ændringsforslag, der beskæftiger sig med sagens historie.
19.2.82 that have only just come before the House, the one in the name of Mr De Clercq and others, will reconsider our amendments, which are, of course, factual amend ments dealing with the history of the matter.
Habsburg. -— (DE) Fru formand, jeg vil gerne have lov til at takke hr. Aigner for hans uhyre store arbejde, hvormed han langt om længe har bragt klarhed i et ellers meget rodet foretagende.
Mr Habsburg. — (DE) Madam President, I should like to thank Mr Aigner for accomplishing a gigantic task; after all he has succeeded in bringing clarity into a very obscure area.
Samtidig vil jeg gerne have lov at sige, at hr. Irmer helt klart udtalte det, der faktisk rører sig i vor befolkning.
At the same time, I should like to say that Mr Irmer has clearly spelled out what is really worrying the people in our country.
Ved alle lejligheder, hvor der kan stilles spørgsmål til medlemmer, bliver netop dette spørgsmål hyppigst draget frem.
On all occasions when questions can be put to Members, this is the subject which is most often raised.
Da vi nu kan glæde os over, at kommissær Dalsager er til stede, vil jeg gerne have lov til i denne sammen hæng at gøre opmærksom på noget, der ligger netop vore vælgere meget på sinde.
Since Commissioner Dalsager — I am glad to say — is here with us, I should like to refer to something in this connection which is of particular concern to our electors.
Kommissionen synes stadig ikke at være klar over, at man i samhandelen med statshandelslandene må bære sig helt anderledes ad, end man gør over for lande med markedsøkonomi.
The Commission still does not seem to realize that a completely different approach has to be adopted to trade with Statetrading countries from that adopted where countries having a market economy are concerned.
Statshandelslandene er et organiseret monopol.
The Statetrading nations are an organized monopoly.
Derfor må man i forbindelsen med disse lande følge en anden politik end den, man følger dér, hvor markedets frie kræfter konkurrerer med hinanden.
Accordingly, a different policy must be pursued from that applicable where free market forces compete with one another.
Sagens historie er blevet behandlet indgående af hr. Aigner, og jeg skal blot henvise til nogle få sider af den for at vise det fulde omfang af historien, som den nu foreligger.
The history of the matter has been dealt with fully by Mr Aigner, and I am only going to refer to a few aspects of it to bring out the full gravity of the story as it now appears.
Det var i de sidste dage af 1979, Afghanistan blev invaderet af Sovjetunionen, og vi i den frie vestlige verden gav et øjeblikkeligt svar på det.
It was in the last days of 1979 that Afghanistan was invaded by the Soviet Union, and we in the free West had an immediate response to it.
Det blev besluttet, at vi for at vise vor afsky og for at støtte afghanerne skulle lægge restriktioner på handelen med Rusland, især på landbrugsområdet. Det var på det grundlag, hr. Haferkamp den 16. januar 1980 fortalte Parlamentet, at Rådet havde besluttet, at leverancer fra Fællesskabet hverken direkte eller indirekte skulle erstatte de forsyninger af landbrugsprodukter til Sovjetunionen, som på grund af den amerikanske beslutning om embargo ikke ville komme fra USA.
It was decided that, in order to show our horror and to support the Afghans, we would restrict trade with Russia, particularly in the agricultural sector.
Han sagde videre, at Kommissionen havde gjort alt, hvad der var nødvendigt for at gennemføre denne politik og for at respektere dette
He went on to say: 'The Commission has done whatever is necessary to implement this policy and to respect this principle'.
Jeg vil gerne gøre kommissæren opmærksom på en farlig udvikling. Især på markedet for træ er der tegn
Indeed Parliament in its resolution of February 1980 went a little further and cut off not only traditional supplies but all supplies of subsidized agricultural produce.
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President. — I call Mr Tyrrell.
Parlamentet gik faktisk i sin beslutning af februar 1980 et lille stykke længere og afskar ikke alene de traditionelle forsyninger, men alle forsyninger af landbrugsprodukter med støtte.
At the same time, the Afghans did not know that the Community was going to double its exports of butter and butter-oils to the Soviet Union, thereby enabling Russia to sell off our butter at a profit to its own people and its colonial peoples and thus have money for guns.
Man havde altså en klar fællesskabspolitik, som Kommissionen skulle iværksætte, og Kommissionen forsikrede os, at den var ved at iværksætte den.
The Olympic athletes from many countries, who were bravely making what was an enormous personal sacrifice, also thought that the Community was going to stand by its promise.
af Rådet og forhandlet i Europa-Parlamentet, ca. 70 000 tons og ikke mere.« Det var den 21. november 1980!
Mr Tyrrell. — Madam President, in the first sentence of his explanatory memorandum Mr Aigner refers to sensational events.
Hr. formand, hvad i himmelens navn var det, der foregik?
I am bound to say that I regard the events he reviews in his report as fully meriting that description.
Hr. Irmer, dette er ikke en sag, der henhører under landbrugspolitikken.
So, Mr Irmer, this is not a matter of simply looking to the future. This is an inquest on what has gone on in the past.
Jeg står ingenlunde her og deltager i en landbrugsforhandling.
We have here a Community policy which has utterly failed, and we must find out why it failed.
Jeg beskæftiger mig ganske enkelt med de politiske spørgsmål.
If there is guilt involved, then that must be exposed.
De kunne naturligvis ikke ane, at Fællesskabet i virkeligheden ville tidoble sin eksport af korn i det år.
If there is incompetence, it must be rooted out, because the lessons for the future must be learned.
De olympiske atleter fra mange lande, som bragte, hvad der var et enormt personligt offer, troede også, at Fælles skabet ville stå ved sit ord.
That is why I hope that your group, who themselves were respon sible for putting down one of these historic motions
Kommissionen begyndte godt.
The Commission started well.
Den indførte et nyt licitationssystem for salg, som ville sætte den i stand til at have fast kontrol med alt salg.
They introduced a new tender system for sales which would enable them to have firm control over sales.
Den behøvede ikke at sælge uden at vide af det, og den kunne, når den fik tilbuddet, tage stilling til, om prisen var acceptabel eller ej.
They would not have to sell without knowing about it, and they could decide when they got the tender whether the price was acceptable or not.
Der var intet salg i februar, intet salg i marts, intet i april.
There were no sales in February, no sales in March, none in April.
Hvis der blev afgivet tilbud, blev de ikke accepteret.
If there were tenders, they were not accepted.
Og så den 28. april gik Kommissionen pludselig baglæns. Den accepterede et tilbud fra Rusland vedrørende 20 000 tons smør, og det var dér, miseren begyndte.
Then, on 28 April, the Commission suddenly went back on its tracks: they accepted a tender from Russia for 20 000 tonnes of butter, and that was the beginning of the rot.
Den har ynkeligt svigtet den frie verden.
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Det blev naturligvis angrebet i Parlamentet.
That, of course, was challenged in the House.
Jeg stil lede et spørgsmål, som var på dagsordenen i juli, og som blev besvaret af den daværende formand, hr. Jenkins.
I put down a question, which came up in July and was answered by the then President, Mr Jenkins.
Han sagde, at der indtil da var eksporteret 37 000 tons smør det år, deraf 8 000 i første halvdel af januar før indførelsen af den nye ordning, og at man sigtede på et gennemsnit på 75 000 tons for hele året, et gennemsnitstal som man fuldt ud forventede at overholde.
He said that the amount of butter exported so far that year was 37 000 tonnes, 8 000 of which had been exported in the first part of January before the new scheme, and that the average they were aiming at was 75 000 tonnes for the year, an average figure which they fully expected to maintain.
Han sagde også — og det var det, der var så overraskende — at »vi har forladt licitationssystemet«.
He also said — and this was what was so astonishing: 'We have abandoned" the tender system'.
Vi ved nu, og vi vidste det faktisk også dengang, at man i stedet for licitationssystemet, som gav kontrol, havde genindført eksportkreditrefusionssystemet, hvori der fastsattes nøjagtig de samme rater for Rusland som for resten af verden.
We now know, indeed we knew then, that instead of the tender system, which gave them control, they had reintroduced the export credit refund system, fixing exactly the same rates for Russia as they were fixing for the rest of the world.
Det var ganske usædvanlig overraskende, men hr. Jenkins syntes at mene, át det ville give Kommissionen nogen kontrol over salget. Jeg kunne ikke se hvorfor.
That was quite extraordinarily puzzling, but Mr Jenkins seemed to think that that would give the Commission some control over sales.
Licitationssystemet havde gjort det, men det var afskaffet.
The tender system had done so, but that had gone.
Resultatet var, at Kommissionen gik ind i anden halvår af 1980 efter med vilje at have berøvet sig det maskineri, som gjorde det muligt at udføre den politik, Fælles skabet havde fastlagt.
The result was that the Commission went into the second half of 1980 having deliberately stripped itself of the machinery which was enabling it to implement the policy that the Community had laid down.
Adamou. — (GR) Hr. formand, Aigncr-betænk-ningen er uacceptabel og koldkrigsagtig til trods foi ordførerens anstrengelser for at præsentere den som det modsatte.
Today, the ratification of the eight-year agreement on economic cooperation between Greece and the Soviet Union appears in the Greek press.
Den kendsgerning, at der i dag forhandles om denne betækning, samtidig med at problemet vedrørende landbrugspriser og afsætning af landbrugsprodukter er på EF's dagsorden, er en grov provokation over for EF's landmænd.
This agreement provides outlets for a considerable part of Greece's agricultural produce and opens up even more favour able prospects, which we hope the Papandreou government will take advantage of.
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That was on 21 November 1980!
De forenede Stater, som solgte korn ril Sovjetunionen via andre lande.
Mr President, what on earth was going on?
Vi vil gerne her understrege, at af dette års forøgede produktion af citrusfrugter, som er et følsomt produkt for de græske landmænd, aftog Sovjetunionen og andre socialistiske og uafhængige lande 85 °/o af eksporten, men EF-lande kun omkring 10 %.
We should like to take this opportunity of stating that 85% of this year's increased production of citrus fruits — a vital product as far as Greek farmers are concerned — went to the Soviet Union and other socialist and non-aligned countries, whereas EEC countries took only about 10%.
Princippet vedrørende Fællesskabets fortrinsret ignoreredes ganske.'
The principle of Community preference was thus demonstratively ignored.
Lad os så prøve at være objektive.
I am simply dealing with the political issues.
Det skal indrømmes, at systemet med forudgående fastsættelse af restitutionerne giver et problem med hensyn til deres niveau, hvis man skal bedømme det bagefter.
If we are going to have a Community policy which is rightly or wrongly — I don't care whether you agree with it or not — agreed between the Member States and designed to answer a political action by the Russians, it must be implemented.
Det er altid meget lettere bagefter, og formodentlig kan man konkludere, at man i visse tilfælde kunne have fået nogle besparelser i forvaltningen. Men at sætte spørgsmålstegn ved det system til forudgående fastsættelse af restitutionerne, som har været gældende indtil nu, stiller os over for et problem, som vi må tage stilling til.
As representatives of Greek farmers, we know how they feel, and we should like to state quite categorically that they have no intention of allowing the mad cold-war tendencies of certain elements in this House to hinder the development of good relations between Greece and the Socialist and non-aligned countries, on which the improvement of Greek farming depends.
Hr. Aigner, vi vil udbrede Deres betænkning i Grækenland, fordi den er et af de mest overbevisende argumenter for vort lands udmeldelse af EF.
I should like to tell Mr Aigner that we intend to give his report wide publicity in Greece: it is one of the most convincing arguments yet put forward in favour of Greek withdrawal from the EEC.
Det siger sig selv, at Kommissionen i det øjeblik, hvor den indgår en handel, i hvilken vi er sælgere, skal give en bemyndigelse, og da den har ansvaret for at fastsætte restitutionsbeløbet, er den forpligtet til at handle på baggrund af kendskab til, hvordan sagerne står.
It has dismally failed the free world. And when we come to a repeat situation, as we have done now in 1982 with the Russian activity in Poland, people are saying: it is no good having a trade embargo, the trade embargo failed.
Erfaringen fra 1981 viser os i øvrigt, at positive resultater af forvaltningen er blevet opnået, eftersom udgifterne til EUGFL's garantifond faldt med 1 milliard og 40 mio. ECU alene i mælkesektoren.
Whether that was incompetence or whether it was knavery or whether it was a bit of the two is a matter which I hope Mr Aigner's committee will pursue when it reviews the budgetary discharge for that year 1980.
Og til dem, der taler om overskud, der er vanskeligt at afsætte, vil jeg gerne sige, at man for øjeblikket, når man sælger smør til Sovjetunionen eller de andre østlande, ikke udbetaler restitution.
Delatte those who talk of surpluses which are unlikely to be absorbed, I would say that, at the present time, when butter is sold to the USSR or to other Eastern Bloc countries, no refund is paid.
Jeg vil gerne anmode Kommissionen om at bekræfte dette.
Perhaps the Commission would kindly confirm this.
Jeg tilføjer, at vi i 1981 solgte smør, som ikke kostede Fællesskabets budget noget, men som tvært imod indbragte penge via de afgifter, der blev pålagt ved salget.
I would add that in 1981 we sold butter which cost the Community budget nothing and, indeed, brought a return through the levies applied at the time of the sales.
Den uro, der kommer til udtryk i Aigner-betænkningen, viser, hvor meget salget af fødevarer til Sovjetunionen og statshandelslandene foruroliger parlamentarikerne.
report show the extent to which Members are worried by the sale of food products to the USSR and the Statetrading countries.
Selv om betænkningen nok anerkender nødvendigheden af at sælge de landbrugsprodukter, som Fællesskabet går ud på markedet med, til østlandene, fremsættes der en del kritik af Kommissionen i forbindelse med dens tidligere salg.
The report notes indeed the need to sell to the Eastern Bloc agricultural produce for which the Community is in the market, but a number of criticisms have been levelled at the Commission regarding sales effected on previous occasions.
Jeg skal ikke i denne sammenhæng gå ind i vore britiske kollegers interne politiske debat, i hvilken hr. Hord og hr. Jenkins står over for hinanden, som vi så det for et øjeblik siden. Men ordføreren foreslår ændringer, der tager sigte på at inddrage Parlamentet yderligere i de beslutninger, der skal træffes i forbindelse med salg til østlandene, og det er positivt.
On this point, I shall not enter the internal political debate of our British colleagues in which, as we heard earlier, Mr Hord is arraigned against Mr Jenkins; but the rapporteur proposes amendments aimed at associating Parliament more closely with the decisions to be taken when sales are to be made to Eastern Bloc countries, and this is to be welcomed.
Og selv om jeg kan tilslutte mig, at Kommissionen må fordoble sin årvågenhed over for salg til statshandelslande, tror jeg, at de krav, der gives udtryk for i beslutningens punkt 9 og 10, hvis de blev vedtaget, ville være et alvorligt handicap, for en forudgående høring af Parlamentet kræver en tids frist, som er helt uforenelig med handelsmetoderne, der, som enhver ved, kræver hurtige beslutninger.
While I agree that the Commission should increase its vigilance on the question of sales to Statetrading countries, I feel that the requirements put forward in paragraphs 9 and 10 of the report, if adopted, would be a serious handicap, for prior consultation of Parliament imposes an additional time constraint which would be completely incompatible with commercial practice, which, as we all know, demands quick deci sions.
Derfor vil jeg stemme imod punkt 9 og 10 i denne beslutning, for de er uforenelige med nødvendig heden af at kunne handle hurtigt på markedet.
This is why I shall vote against paragraphs 9 and 10 of this report, which are incompatible with the need to act quickly in market transactions.
Hvad embargoen angår, skal jeg minde hr. Aigner om, at den blev en fiasko, en total fiasko, samt at det skyldtes embargoens egen ophavsmand, eftersom de beslutninger, der var truffet, ikke blev respekteret af
In order not to prolong the debate, I shall stick to presenting a few reflections on some of the arguments put forward and to pointing out that, of course, the monopoly positions condemned must claim the Commission's attention and a greater diversification of operators must be found in order to obviate criticism of this kind; we also know, however, that an effort has been made on this point, for — thank God — Interagra alone does not have the monopoly of sales to Eastern Bloc countries.
Det er blevet påstået, at intet emne belaster forsamlinger mere end dette.
It is regrettable that so much emotion is creeping into this debate.
Jeg kan ellers garantere Dem for, at jeg forelægger dette emne i en hvilken som helst husmoderforening på en sådan måde, at det ikke yderligere bliver belastet med følelser.
It has been claimed that assemblies have no greater burden to bear than a subject such as this; but I can assure you that I explain this subject at every meeting of housewives I attend in such a way that emotions are not added to the burden.
Fællesskabet må inden for rammerne af dets handelsforbindelser med den øvrige verden — det vil jeg gerne have lov til at skære ud i pap for en og anden, der er fuldstændig døv, når vi taler om rørledninger og andet, og i forbindelse med store kreditter, som måske nu er tabt — behandle landbrugsprodukter og industriprodukter på en ensartet måde.
Regarding the embargo, I would remind Mr Aigner that it was a failure, and a total failure at that, which was the fault of its originators: the decisions taken were not observed by the United States, which sold grain to the USSR through intermediary countries. I would mention, as an example, the fact that one million tonnes of grain passed through Federal Germany disguised as inward processing goods.
Jeg skal her sige et par forklarende ord for land brugsudvalget.
But the American grain, processed in Germany, went to the USSR during the embargo.
Jeg beklager kun, at vor tid er så knap, og jeg håber, at vi i dechargeforhandlingen kan slippe af med den narresut, vi i dag har behandlet, og komme frem til den ægte vare.
So don't let anyone tell us that the Commission has been at fault through bad management; even the originators of the embargo did not apply it.
Man forsøger her at gribe ind i et lands indenrigspolitik.
The attempt is being made here to influence a country's internal policy.
Det ville jeg være yderst forsigtig med. Hvis trufne beslutninger lægges en eller anden til last, der her tidligere har haft et stort ansvar, må man ikke glemme, at der her findes folk, der dengang, og også nu, har ansvar af den art, og ikke blot på uvigtige poster.
I would be extremely cautious about this. If accusations are going to be made about the decisions someone has taken, someone who used to be in a position of considerable responsibility, it must not be forgotten that there are people here who had responsibilities of this kind at that time and still have, and the posts occupied were and are not unimportant.
En ting har den nemlig sørget for: den har i en meget usikker verden sikret fødevareforsyningen for 270 mio mennesker.
It is always much easier to make an assessment after the event, and it is always possible in certain cases to realize that some savings in manage ment could have been achieved.