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Hvis det drejer sig om deres opførelse på dagsorden en, er dette allerede vedtaget.
President. — As I already stated, these two reports have been put on the agenda.
Hvis jeg forstår Dem ret, ønsker De, at de opføres med forhandling.
(Applause from the centre and the right)
I så tilfælde henvises forslaget til fornyet behandling i det kompetente udvalg.
The President shall determine the time of the debate and vote'.
Energi, forsknings- og teknologiudvalget har vedtaget det enstemmigt, og under forudgående drøftelser med vore britiske kolleger har de også be kræftet det over for mig.
Now what we cannot understand is how the announcement on that Friday can now be out of order. I would be grateful if the President could inform us, first under which rule it is out of order and, secondly, the object of the exercise.
Vi accepterer alle at det er meget presserende og rent faktisk : det er presserende, det er overgangsforanstaltninger, der må vedtages in den årets udgang, og Energirådet kan inden da træffe en afgørelse, der tager hensyn til Parlamentets rettigheder.
This would appear to create no problems for Parliament: those who normally leave on Thursday will not have to stay on, while those who are genuinely interested in the coal industry in the Community can have a debate on the matter on Friday morning.
Senere kommer der så en grundlæggende de bat.
So can I ask the President if he will put that to the vote?
Er der nogen, der gør indsigelse imod, at sagen opføres uden forhandling?
However, these reports are already on Friday's agenda.
Det må forstås således, efter som De anmoder om opførelse med forhandling. Og mindst ti medlemmer eller en politisk gruppe skal anmode herom.
If your request is adopted by the House, I shall apply rule 34(2) which will mean that these reports will be referred back to the committee.
I dette tilfælde henvises Kommissionens forslag til fornyet udvalgsbehandling.
President. — Let me put a precise question to you: 'What do you wish to achieve?'
Derfor vil jeg anmode dem om at tage deres anmodning tilbage.
If it is a question of putting them on the agenda, this has already been decided.
Jeg vil gøre dem op mærksom på, at det ved anvendelse af proceduren uden forhandling er muligt med en skriftlig stemmeforklaring.
As Mrs Veil has already confirmed, these reports have been entered without debate.
En mundtlig stemmeforklaring kan ikke afgives på fredag, men en skriftlig.
If I have understood you correctly you wish them to be taken with debate.
Dette gør det muligt for dem at fremføre deres synspunkter, også over for offentligheden.
In that case we are faced with the situation envisaged in Rule 34(2):
Jeg anmoder mine britiske kolleger om at tage deres anmodning tilbage. De kan afgive en skriftlig stemmeforklaring på fredag, hvor de kan fremføre deres standpunkt.
'The Commission's proposal and, where appropriate, the motion for a resolution contained in the report shall be put to the vote without debate unless a political group or at least 10 Members of Parliament lodge a protest in advance'.
Ford (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg ønsker ikke at spilde Parlamentets tid på samme måde, som med lemmerne derovre gør det.
Mr Croux (PPE), rapporteur. — (NL) As rapporteur I should like to make one comment.
Men grunden til, at vi anvendte artikel 57 og ikke artikel 34 er, at vi ikke ønsker sagen taget af dagsordenen.
It is obvious that our British counterparts do not want this report to be referred back to committee.
Vi ønsker en for handling i denne uge.
But priority must be given to taking my report this week, Mr President.
Formanden. — Efter min mening er der mulighed for anvendelse af artikel 34.
I would advise our British colleagues to proceed with caution, because if they really want a debate and the President applies Rule 34, then something will happen that no one wants, including those moving this request.
Veil (L). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg tror, der er en vis forvirring, fordi vi har at gøre med to artikler, som kan forekomme at være i indbyrdes modstrid : artikel 34 og artikel 57.
The Committee on Energy, Research and Technology voted unanimously on this, and during the preceding discussuions with our British counterparts they con firmed this to me.
Men det er første gang i Parlamentet, at man anmoder om anvendelse af artikel 57, dvs. uopsættelig forhandling, om en udtalelse, hvis be handling er opført på dagsordenen for indeværende mødeperiode.
We also accept that it is very urgent, and indeed it is an urgent matter of a transitional provision on which a vote must be taken before the end of this year and before the Council of Energy Ministers can reach a decision without taking the rights of Parliament into account.
Det er derfor, at der er en vis forvirring. ring.
A debate on the substance of the report will come later.
Men de pågældende to be tænkninger er allerede opført på dagsordenen for fredag. dag.
That is what I understand you to mean since you are asking that it be taken with debate.
Hvis Deres anmodning efterkommes, vil jeg lade artikel 34, stk. 2, træde i anvendelse, dvs. at de to betænkninger henvises til udvalget.
This requires that the request be made by at least 10 Members or a political group.
Hidtil har Rådet, Kommissionen eller medlemmer kun anmodet om uopsættelig forhandling om udtalelser, når det drejede sig om en udtalelse, som Parlamentet ikke påtænkte at afgive under den mødeperiode, hvorunder der anmodes om uopsættelig forhand ling.
If that is the case the Commission's proposal will be referred back to the competent committee for re-examination. If your request is adopted these reports will be referred back to committee.
Jeg vil tilskynde de britiske kolleger til forsigtighed, for.hvis de rent faktisk ønsker en debat, og formand en anvender artikel 34, så sker der noget, som ingen
I would ask my British counterparts to think very care fully if the President asks whether you wish to apply Rule 34, because then the report will be referred back.
Man ville gå imod det til stræbte formål, hvis man ved at anmode om uopsættelig behandling blot udsatte sagen til en anden mødeperiode.
I think it would be very unfortunate if, after the splendid unanimity of views that we achieved in the Committee of Energy, Research and Technol-
Formanden. — Tak, fordi De skabte klarhed i sagen. Hr. Croux har allerede insisteret på denne argumentation. tation.
Croux that we would have an opportunity to vote and speak to the issue at 4 p.m. today.
anmodning, får det samme problem, som vi har drøftet i en anden samenhang. Det mener jeg imidlertid ikke.
I am pleased you have agreed to put the matter to the vote under Rule 57(1) but I hope you have not forgotten that I did request permission to speak in favour of that request.
Vi ønsker blot, at den medtages man dag.
May I now speak for a minute or two in support of this request?
Hvis jeg må komme med min personlige — og altså ikke strengt juridiske — opfattelse, så tror jeg faktisk, at udvalget for forretningsordenen og for andragender bør klarlægge spørgsmålet.
ogy, and also in the talks that were held prior to this sitting, we were now to be faced with the unfortunate circumstances that this item will have to be held over until the next part-session, that it will first have to be referred back to the committee even although that committee has already drawn up a report and adopted it practically unanimously.
Men for øjeblikket må vi se at komme til en konklusion. Situationen er følgende: de:
I urge my British colleagues to withdraw their request.
Disse to betænkninger er opført på dagsordenen for fredag uden forhandling, hvilket ikke udelukker eventuelle skriftlige stemmeforklaringer.
Those in favour of amending Friday's agenda to replace without debate by with debate, please show.
Klepsch (PPE). - (DE) Hr. formand, det er ikke samme problematik.
Mrs Veil (L). — (FR) Mr President, I think there is great confusion at the moment because in fact we are confronted here with two Rules which might appear contradictory: Rule 34 and Rule 57.
Vi anmoder ikke om, at Cornelissen-betænkningen opføres med forhandling i stedet for uden.
Now, this is the first time a request has been made in this Assembly for the application of Rule 57, that is to say a request for urgent procedure on a matter scheduled for consideration in the agenda of the present partsession. That is the reason for the confusion.
Vi ønsker blot at inddrage den i den almindelige forhandling mandag og i afstemningen.
(Parliament rejected the request to take the two Croux reports with debate)
Hvis nogen insisterer på, at vi ændrer dagsordenen ved at opføre punktet med forhandling og ikke uden forhandling, må jeg ty til anvendelse af den artikel i forretningsordenen, som tager sigte på henvisning til udvalget, således at man opnår det diametralt mod satte resultat af det tilsigtede.
Up to now a request for urgent procedure has been made by the Council, the Commission or by Members only in connection with matters which Parliament was not scheduled to discuss during the partsession for which urgent procedure was requested.
Klepsch siger, at han ikke ønsker nogen forhandling om betænkningen, men samtidig ønsker han den ind draget i den almindelige forhandling. Dette forstår jeg ikke.
President. — Pursuant to Rule 56 of the Rules of Procedure the Group of the European People's Party has requested that Mr Cornelissen's report (Doc.
Men jeg ville være taknemmelig, hvis de kristelige demokrater ville tage denne anmodning tilbage, så vi blot kan nøjes med at stemme om fredagen.
We would be defeating the object of the exercise if, by requesting urgent procedure, we were merely to defer the matter to a later partsession.
Klepsch (PPE). — (DE) Jeg er indforstået; vi tager anmodningen tilbage.
President. — Thank you for clarifying the point under discussion.
Hughes (S). — (EN) Tak for denne afklaring af situa tionen, hr. formand.
Mr Klepsch (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, I know that your advisers take the view that if we accept this request we shall be faced with the same problem as we have already discussed in another context.
De har ret i Deres vrdering, blot ikke på et enkelt punkt.
But I would not support that view.
Det foreliggende forslag til dagsorden var ikke til rådighed, dengang vi fremsatte vor anmodning, og dengang det om fredagen under sidste mødeperiode blev meddelt, at vi ville få mulig hed for at stemme om dette spørgsmål i dag kl. 16.
If we take the Cornelissen report along with the other reports tabled for Mon day, it will, of course remain a report without debate, and we are not asking for a debate on it to be held.
Hvis der er problemer med anvendelsen af forretningsordenen, er jeg rede til at forelægge det for udvalget for forretningsordenen.
My personal — though not a strictly legal — opinion is that I think the Committee on the Rules of Procedure and Petitions should clarify the matter.
Men nu må vi se at komme ud dette dødvande.
However, for the moment we must reach a conclusion.
A 2-129/85) af Boserup for budgetkontroludvalget om budgetkontrolproblemer i olivenoliesektoren, som er opført fredag som punkt nr. 253, udsættes til en sene re mødeperiode, med henblik på at disse spørgsmål kan behandles i en endelig betænkning, hvori også udtalelsen fra landbrugsudvalget tages i betragtning.
If some Members insist that the agenda be amended to substitute with debate for without debate, I shall apply the rule which provides for refer ral back to committee so that the end result will be exactly the contrary of what you are seeking to obtain.
(Anmodningen om at opføre de to Croux-betænk-ninger med forhandling blev ikke imødekommet)
Mr Klepsch (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, it is not the same problem.
Aigner (PPE), formand for budgetkontroludvalget. — (DE) Hr. formand, hvis jeg har forstået Dem rigtigt, taler, taler De nu om Boserup-betænkningen.
We are not asking for the Cornelissen report to be taken with debate instead of without debate.
Jeg vil gerne erindre om, at det drejer sig om en interimsbetænkning, som desunden er vedtaget enstemmigt i udvalget, også af de medlemmer, som også er medlemmer af udvalget om landbrug, fiskeri og ernæring. ring.
All we are asking is to be allowed to take it in the general debate on Monday and put it to the vote with the other items.
Formanden. — Det europæiske folkepartis gruppe har i overensstemmelse med artikel 56 i fonetningsordenen anmodet om, at betænkning (dok.
Mr Hughes (S). — Thank you, Mr President for that valuable clarification. You are right in the assessment you have given us except in one respect.
A 2-126/85) af Cornelissen for budgetudvalget om udskiftning af medlemsstaternes finansielle bidrag med Fællesskabernes egne idtægter, som var opført fredag efter pro ceduren uden forhandling, indgår i budgetforhandlingen mandag og tirsdag.
The agenda that we now have before us was not available at the time we put down this request and at the time when it was announced on the Friday of the last pan-session
Vi har modtaget en beretning fra Revisionsretten.
Mr Arndt (S). — (DE) I do not understand.
Vi har dernæst udarbejdet en initiativbetænkning, og vi har anmodet om den pågældende beretning.
Mr Klepsch is saying that he doesn't want a debate on the report, but he does want the report to be included in the debate.
rer naturligvis også markedsordningerne, for det er klart, at når kontrolinstansen fastslår, at markedsordningerne ikke fungerer, berører kontrolaspektet også disse.
Besides, as also emerges in the last paragraph of the Boserup report's arguments, the Committee on Budgetary Control itself concurs with the Agricultural Committee's position and views.
Vi ved, at der har været fejlagtigt udbetalte ydelser på langt over 10%.
In the budget debate we can discuss anything that happens in the Community.
Vi anmoder derfor om, at denne interimsbetænkning under alle omstændigheder behandles på fredag.
But I should be deeply grateful if the Christian-Democrats would accept that this request should now be with drawn and we simply put the items to the vote on Friday. day.
Jeg erklærede, at der kunne være visse vanskeligheder, og at jeg var rede til at anmode udvalget for for retningsordnen og for andragender om at afgøre, hvordan man fremover skulle fortolke den nuværende ordlyd, men at jeg i det foreliggende tilfælde for at nå frem til en afgørelse ville foretage afstemning.
A debate and vote on the opinion by the Agriculture Committee has already been timetabled for next week, specifically on 18 November, and I think we can agree to refer both matters to the December partsession.
Parlamentet traf da afgørelse med et vist flertal.
(Parliament rejected the request and adopted the agenda as amended)1
Dernæst kom De ind på en helt anden sag, nemlig anmodningen fra den europæiske demokratisle gruppe om at lade den aktuelle og uopsættelige debat udgå.
A 2-129/85), on behalf of the Committee on Budgetary Control, on monitoring problems in the olive oil sector, scheduled to be taken as item 253 on Friday, should be held over until a later session in order to enable these problems to be dealt with in a definitive report which would also take account of the opinion of the Committee on Agriculture.
Romeos (S). — (GR) Hr. formand, det forslag, jeg har fremsat, har ikke kun tilslutning fra de ti medlemmer, der har underskrevet det, men også fra et flertal i udvalget om landbrug, fiskeri og ernæring, og årsagen er, at man har ment, at udtalelsen fra udvalget om landbrug, fiskeri og ernæring er væsentlig og bør be handles samtidig med Boserup-betænkningen.
Mr Falconer (S). — Mr President, when the Croux reports were being discussed, you said that there was a conflict between two of the Rules of Procedure of this Assembly and that you would refer the matter to the Committee on the Rules of Procedure and Petitions.
Som det i øvrigt fremgår af sidste afsnit i Boserup-betænkningens konklusion, er budgetkontroludvalget selv enig i landbrugsudvalgets mening og synspunkter.
Mrs Veil also spoke about people making a mockery of the procedures of this institution.
Der finder en behandling og en afstemning sted om udtalelsen i landbrugsudvalget i næste uge, helt nøjagtigt den 18. november, og jeg synes, at vi bør være enige om at udsætte begge spørgsmål til mødeperioden i december.
May I point out that this is an interim report that was also adopted unanimously in committee, and also had the support of Members who also sit on the Com mittee on Agriculture, Fisheries and Food.
Falconer (S). — (EN) Undskyld, hr. formand, men jeg kommer fra Fife i Skotland, og jeg forstår, at tolkene kan have visse vanskeligheder med at forstå min accent.
Mr Hughes and twenty others placed on the agenda a question for urgent debate and asked that the time be extended from 1lh hours to 3 hours in accordance with the Rules of Procedure.
(Anmodningen blev ikke imødekommet; den således ændrede dagsorden godkendtes) (')
Instead, you put it to the vote of this House and by doing so actually jeopardized the Rules of Procedure of this House.
Falconer (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, da vi behandlede spørgsmålet om Croux-betænkningerne, sagde De, at der var en uforenelighed mellem to bestemmelser i forretningsordenen, og at De ville henvise spørgsmålet til udvalget for forretningsordenen og for andragender.
You said you would refer the conflict between the two Rules to the Committee on the Rules of Procedure and Petitions.
Også fru Veil sagde, at det var latterligt med denne diskussion af Parlamentets procedurer.
Will you also refer to it the question whether, by your action in proceeding to the vote on the Hughes urgency request, you have abused the rules of this Assembly?
Jeg sagde dernæst, at jeg ikke havde set Dem konsultere Deres stab, om hr. Fords fortolkning var den rette.
It represents an initiative on our part in that it was we who asked for this report.
Til sidst anmodede jeg Dem om på linje med Deres afgørelse om at henvise fortolkningsspørgsmålet til udvalget for forretningsordenen om også at henvise Deres egen afgørelse til udvalget med henblik på at klarlægge, om De med den foretagne afstemning var gået ud over bestemmelserne i fonetningsordenen.
It also encroaches on the regulation of markets, and rightly so, because if the supervisory authority determines that the marketing regulations are not working, then the supervisory side has an obvious bearing on the regulatory side.
Min begrundelse er, at bestemmelserne i forretningsordenen tager sigte på at beskytte mindretalsgrupper.
The matter is urgent because the regulation of this market relates to a figure in the region of 1,000 million ECU.
Jeg så Dem ikke rådføre Dem med Deres stab om, hvad forretningsordenen siger i spørgsmålet om, hvorvidt debatten skal finde sted eller ikke.
The matters you spoke about are two entirely different matters which arose during this debate.
De satte det i stedet til afstemning, hvorved De faktisk overtrådte forretningsordenen.
One concerns the Croux reports, on which we have just had an exchange of views.
De sagde, at De ville henvise spørgsmålet om disse to bestemmelsers uforenelighed til udvalget for forretningsordenen og an dragender.
During the debate on the Croux reports, Mrs Veil in particular stated that there was a problem concerning the interpretation of the Rules of Procedure.
(') Uopsættelig forhandling (artikel 57 i forretningsordenen) — Frist for at stille ændringsforslag — Taletid: se protokollen.
Urgent procedure (Rule 57) — Deadline for tabling amend ments — Speaking time: see Minutes.
Formanden. — Hr. Falconer, De rejste rent faktisk to spørgsmål, og jeg mener ikke, at jeg i nogen af tilfældene har overtrådt forretningsordenens bestemmelser.
Mr Romeos (S). — (GR) Mr President, the proposal I put forward does not merely represent the view of its
I det andet tilfælde mener jeg ikke, at der er nogen fortolkningsvanskeligheder. vanskeligheder.
President time for us to take the necessary vote, because I think it is important that this report goes through.
Formanden. — Jeg mener ligesom De, at der ikke er virkelige fortolkningsvanskeligheder.
President. — The matter will be dealt with tomorrow.
Sagen må være helt klar.
The House, therefore took a decision.
Forslag til almindeligt budget 1986
The major­ity decided in this way.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er for handling under ét om :
However, nowhere in my remarks did I make any reference to the European Democrats — nowhere!
Patterson (ED). - (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil blot henlede Deres opmærksomhed på, at ændringsforslag nr. 1 til von Wogau-betænkingen og punkt 8 i beslutningsforslaget ikke svarer til den i udvalget foretagne afstemning.
Mr C. Beazley (ED). — On a point of order, Mr President, I would like to take grave exception to all the points of order that Mr Falconer and his col­leagues have made.
Det er ikke noget, som betyder alverden, men jeg håber, der kan foretages en rettelse, som kan omdeles i rette tid inden afstemningen. For jeg finder det vigtigt, at betænkningen vedtages.
This is quite disgraceful, and I would hope that you would rule out of order not only my point of order, but all of those over there, because they are wasting time.
Formanden. — Sagen vil blive taget op i morgen.
This ques­tion was discussed in the enlarged Bureau only the other day, if you remember, and we referred to the Rules.
A2-140/85) af Christodoulou for budgetudvalget over forslag til De europæiske Fællesskabers almindelige budget for regnskabsår et 1986 — Sektion III — Kommissionen — (dok. C2-100/85)
I went on to ask that, in line with your decision to refer a conflict in the Rules of Procedure, you would also refer your own actions to the Committee on the Rules of Procedure and Petitions in order to establish whether, by putting the vote on the urgency question to this House, you have actually transgressed the Rules of Procedure of Parliament.
A2-148/85) af Louwes forbud getudvalget over budgetforslaget 1986
The Rules of Procedure were designed to protect minority groups.
Sektion II — Rådet — (bilag) — Det økonomiske og sociale Udvalg
The matter was discussed the other day in the enlarged Bureau.
C. Beazley (ED). — (EN) Til forretningsordenen, hr. formand : jeg vil gerne på det alvorligste tage afstand fra alle de indlæg til fonetningsordenen, som hr. Falconer og hans kolleger har fremført.
President. ■■— I share you view that the difficulty is not really one of interpretation.
Jeg har nu tålmodigt siddet og ventet i en time og ti minutter, mens formanden og Parlamentet har været vidne til et forsætligt misbrug af proceduren, som endte med, at hr. Falconer anklagede Dem, hr. formand, for at misbruge fonetningsordenen.
However, if there is the slightest doubt it might be useful for the future to con­sult the Committee on the Rules of Procedure and Petitions on the second point as well.
Det hele har været spild af tid.
In any event they have been taken.
Dette spørgsmål blev behandlet af det udvidede præsidium forleden, hvis De husker det, og på et andet tidspukt henviste vi på et møde i det udvidede præsidium til fonetningsordenen.
They cannot therefore be called into question, but we can try to achieve greater clarity for the future.
Alle forudsætningerne for dette var også til stede.
I believe that, in neither case, did I trans­gress the Rules.
Spaniens og Portugals tiltrædelse af Det euro pæiske Fællesskab og disse landes forventede aktive deltagelse gav forhåbninger om en mere afbalanceret funktion af fællesskabsinstitutionerne.
I believe that I applied the Rules cor­rectly. However I did recognize that in the first case, as sometimes happens, there were difficulties in inter­preting the Rules of Procedure.
Ydermere var de sidste års manglende fleksibilitet med hensyn til budgettet fjernet, i det mindste midlertidigt.
That is why I stated with regard to the first case, the matter raised by Mr Hughes, that I intended to submit the problem to the Committee on the Rules of Procedure and Peti­tions so that, for the future, it would tell us how the Rules in question, i.e. Rules 34, 56 and 57 should be interpreted.
Forhøjelsen af den øvre grænse for momsgrundlaget fra 1 % til 1,4% var et nyt udgangspunkt, som gav Fællesskabet større bevægelsesfrihed med hensyn til aktiviteter og politik, i det mindste i de førstkommende år.
In the other case I do not believe that there was a problem of interpreting the Rules.