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Dersom Fællesskabet skulle have en havnepolitik, burde den i første række bestå af en såvel fællesskabsintern som udenlandsk udvikling af allerede bestående anlæg.
If we are to have a policy for Community ports, it should be primarily aimed at promoting, both within in the Community and abroad, the installations which already exist.
1-967/82 »Transportordning«) : VEDTAGET
1-967/82¡Transportorganization)¡ADOPTED The rapporteur spoke against Amendments Nos 1, 2 and 3/rev.
Welsh (ED). — (EN)Vi har nu gjort Carossino-betænkningen lidt mere realistisk, fordi vi ikke har søgt en harmonisering af afgiftssatser, som helt klart ligger uden for Fælles skabets rammer på dette område.
Mr Welsh (ED). — We have now made the Carossino report a little more realistic, because we have not sought the harmonization of duty rates, which is quite clearly beyond the compass of the Community at this point.
Jeg glæder mig over, at Parlamentet her i formiddag har gjort en virkelig god betænkning endog endnu bedre.
I would like to congratulate Parliament here this morning on having made a very good report into an even better one.
Tidende
No 1­297
Sessionen 1983-1984 Fuldstændigt referat af møderne fra den 11. til den 15. april 1983
1982­83 Session Report of Proceedings from 11 to 15 April 1983
Mødet mandag den 11. april 1983
Monday, 11 April 1983
Mødet tirsdag den 12. april 1983
Tuesday, 12 April 1983
Mødet onsdag den 13. april 1983
Wednesday, 13 April 1983
Mødet torsdag den 14. april 1983
Contents (continued)
Mødet fredag den 15. april 1983
Friday, 15 April 1983
MØDET MANDAG DEN 11. APRIL 1983
SITTING OF MONDAY, 11.
Godkendelse af protokollen: Provan
Approval of the minutes : Mr Provan
Et flag for Fællesskabet — Betænkning 1-1194/82) af von Hassel:
Flag for the European Community — Report (Doc. 1-1194/82) by Mr von Hassel:
Formanden. — Protokollen fra mødet fredag den 11. marts 1983 er omdelt.
President. — The minutes of the sitting of Friday, 11 March 1983 have been distributed.
Provan (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, da vi stemte om Mouchel-forslagene om prispakken i sidste møde periode, rejste jeg spørgsmålet om de enkelte led i præambelen, og om de faktisk havde nogen gyldighed
Mr Provan (ED). — Mr President, when we were voting on the Mouchel proposals on the price package last session, I raised the matter of the indents that were being voted upon and whether in fact they had any
Formanden. — Jeg erklærer Europa-Parlamentets session, der blev afbrudt den 11. marts 1983, for genoptaget.
President. — I declare resumed the partsession of the European Parliament, which was adjourned on 11 March 1983.
Efter den mundtlige forespørgsel om foranstaltninger på grundlag af andragendet vedrørende 21 uruguay anske fanger vil Rådet afgive en redegørelse om resultaterne af den fjerde EØF—ASEAN-samling'.
Next, the report by Lord Bethell on human rights in the USSR entered as No 36 is withdrawn from the agenda together with the Oral Question by Mr Schall and others which was included in the debate on this report.
Hr. formand, De sagde, at De ville henvise spørgsmålet til udvalget for forretningsordenen og for andragender, efter et indlæg fra lady Elles.
Mr President, you said you would refer that matter to the Committee on the Rules of Procedure and Petitions, following an intervention from Lady Elles.
Jeg forstår, at forslaget er blevet genfremsat.
I under stand that that resolution has been retabled.
Kan jeg få en forsikring fra Dem om, at det, De sagde dengang, faktisk vil finde sted, nemlig at det vil blive henvist til udvalget for forretningsordenen og for andragender, og at der ikke vil blive foretaget yderligere med hr. Daverns beslutning, før udvalget har afgivet udtalelse?
Have I got an assurance from you that what you, in fact, said at that time will take place, namely that it will be referred to the Committee on the Rules of Procedure and Petitions and that no further action will be taken on Mr Davern's resolution until the committee has delivered its opinion?
Der er enighed om, at forhandlingen om Purvisbetænkningen og den mundtlige forespørgsel vil kunne fortsættes onsdag formiddag til senest kl. 10.
After the Oral Question on measures relating to the petition concerning 21 Uruguyan prisoners, the Council with make a statement on the outcome of the fourth EEC/ASEAN session.
Formanden. — Hvilket dokument af hr. Mouchel henviser De konkret til, hr. Provan?
President. — What precise document of Mr Mouchel's are you referring to, Mr Provan?
Er det det om landbrugspriserne?
Is it the one on agricultural prices?
Provan (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, det var fjerde led i Mouchel-beslutningen om landbrugspriserne?
Mr Provan (ED). — Mr President, it was the fourth indent of the Mouchel report on agricultural prices.
Purvis (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil bare spørge, hvornår fristen for at stille ændringsforslag til betænkningen om oliedollarerne udløber.
Next, the last item to be entered on the agenda for Tuesday is the joint debate on the report by Mr Purvis, on behalf of the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs on the recycling of petrodollars and the Oral Question with debate by Mr Bismarck and others to the Commission on the world monetary sys tem.
Formanden. — Og hvad er relationen mellem det og protokollen?
President. — And what is the relation between it and the minutes?
Provan (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, min bemærkning vedrører »regnbuen«, som gengiver, hvad der skete under forhandlingen.
Mr Provan (ED). — Mr President, my point concerns the 'Rainbow' which reports what took place during the debate.
Jeg beder om en forsikring fra Dem om, at det faktisk fortsat vil være tilfældet.
I am asking for an assurance from you that in fact that will continue to be the case.
Pranchère (COM). — (FR) Hr. formand, De har lige sagt, at Kommissionen vil afgive en kort erklæring om spørgsmålet om valutatilpasningerne.
Mr Purvis (ED). — Mr President, I would just like to ask you when the deadline for submitting amendments is on the report for petrodollars.
Formanden. — Vi har bedt udvalget for forretningsordenen og for andragender om at træffe afgørelse i sagen.
President. — We have asked the Committee on the Rules of Procedure and Petitions to rule on the matter.
Så længe den er under overvejelse i udvalget, vil situationen forblive sådan, som jeg sagde i plenum i marts.
As long as it is under consideration in committee the situation will remain as I said during the plenary in March.
(Protokollen godkendtes) (')
(Parliament approved the minutes)1
Formanden. — Hr. Pranchère, jeg har indordnet dette punkt under forhandlingen om erklæringerne om resultaterne af Det europæiske Råd i Bruxelles.
Mr Pranchère (COM). — (FR) Mr President, you have just said that the Commission will make a short statement on the monetary realignment.
Med andre ord: grupperne er fuldstændig frit stillet med hensyn til at drøfte denne redegørelse som led i forhandlingen om erklæringerne om Det europæiske Råd, idet det drejer sig om en spørgsmål med klar relation dertil.
Do you not think it desirable to have a debate, even if only a short one, either in the form of statements or of questions to the Commission?
Formanden. — I sit møde den 9. marts 1983 fastsatte det udvidede præsidium det forslag til dagsorden, som er omdelt.
President. — At its meeting of 9 March 1983, the enlarged Bureau drew up the draft agenda, which has been distributed.
På sit møde i formiddags pålagde gruppeformændene mig at foreslå Parlamentet en række ændringer.
At the meeting this morning, the chairmen of the political groups instructed me to propose a number of amendments.
For så vidt angår tirsdag:
In respect of Tuesday.
Enright (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, De sagde, at lord Bethells betænkning var taget tilbage.
President. — Mr Pranchère, I made room for this matter in the debate on the statement on the results of the European Council in Brussels.
Men vi har faktisk modtaget den, og for en gang skyld havde vi rigelig tid til at overveje den. Derfor forekommer det mig, at der ikke er nogen god eller presserende grund til at tage den af dagsordenen.
In other words, the political groups are perfectly free to debate this expose within the framework of the debate on the statement on the European Council, since the issue is closely related.
Efter erklæringerne fra Rådet og Kommissionen om Det europæiske Råd i Bruxelles vil Kommissionen afgive en kort redegørelse for de nye valutapariteter.
After the Statement by the Council and the Commission on the European Council in Brussels, the Corn-
(') Parlamentets sammensætning — Udvalgens sammensætning — Anvendelse af forretningsordenen — Beslutningsforslag (artikel 49 i forretningsordenen) — Andragender — Bevillingsoverførsler — Henvisning til udvalg — Modtagne dokumenter — Tekster til aftaler sendt af Rådet: se protokollen.
Membership of Parliament — Membership of committees — Application of the Rules of Procedure — Motions for resolutions (Rule 49) — Petitions — Transfer of appropriations — Referral to Committee — Documents received — Texts of treaties forwarded by the Council: see Minutes.
Formanden. — Samtidig med forhandlingen om erklæringerne om resultaterne af Det europæiske Råd, hr. Pflimlin.
Mr Enright (S). — Mr President, you said that Lord Bethell's report had been withdrawn. In fact we have recieved this report and for a change we have had ample time to consider it.
Europa­Parlamentets forhandlinger
Debates of the European Parliament accounts as part of a debate on the discharge for 1981.
Med hensyn til onsdag: bør den adskilles fra diskussionen om 1981­dechargen.
What I am saying is that since it is now decided to have a debate, it should be separate from discussions on the 1981 discharge.
Kan De ikke lukke parentesen efter pkt. 45, så vi kan få en lille debat om pkt. 46, adskilt fra de andre?
Can you not close your bracket off after Item 45 and have a small debate on Item 46 separate from the others.
Formanden. — Det er muligt, det volder ingen vanskeligheder.
President. — That is possible, that does not create any problems.
Jeg henleder først Deres opmærksomhed på, at Schon­betænkningen om decharge for regnskabsåret 1981, som er optaget på dagsordenen under pkt. 41, behandles som to separate dokumenter: et om Europa­Parlamentet og et andet om den anden og tredje europæiske udviklingsfond.
— I would point out, first, that the report by Mr Schon on the discharge for the 1981 financial year, which is entered on the agenda as No 41, is the subject of two separate documents, one on the European Parliament, the other on the second and third EDF.
Såby (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil bare præcisere, at det var efter udtalelsen fra budgetkontroludvalget, der blev enstemmigt vedtaget, at vi foreslog, at der ikke skulle være nogen forhandling, men at debatten naturligvis skulle finde sted, når vi havde nye oplys­ninger. Det var en tydeliggørelse, hr. formand.
The repon by Mr Saby on the administrative expendi ture of the European Parliament for the 1982 financial ' year, Item No 46 on the agenda, could be taken with out debate, but I have received from Mr Forth and nine other signatories, a request that there should be a debate.
Saby­betænkningen om Parlamentets driftsregnskab for regnskabsåret 1982, der figurerer på dagsordenen under pkt. 46, vil kunne behandles uden forhandling, men jeg har ■ fra Forth og ni medunderskrivere modtaget en anmodning om, at dette punkt behandles med forhandling.
Mr Saby (S). — (FR) Mr President, I should simply like to add that we had suggested there be no debate after we had received an opinion from the Committee on Budgetary Control which was adopted unanimously, it being understood that this debate would be held when further information was available. That simply to clarify matters, Mr President.
Jeg minder dem, der ønsker en forhandling, om, at forslaget til beslutning i denne betænkning ifølge en rettelse, som vil blive omdelt, er ændret, og at den omdelte beslutning ikke indeholder punkterne 8 og 9.
I would point out, for the benefit of those who want a debate that, in line with a corrigendum which has yet to be distributed, the motion for a resolution set out in this report has been amended and the resolution that has been distributed does not include paragraphs 8 and 9.
Hvis anmodningen om forhandling derfor er baseret på punkterne 8 og 9 i beslutningen, vil jeg forlange, at anmodningen tages tilbage.
Therefore, if the request for a debate is based on paragraphs 8 and 9 of the resolution, I must insist that it be withdrawn.
Hord (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, hr. Forth er ikke i stand til at være her i dag, og da jeg er en af under­skriverne, vil jeg gerne fortælle forsamlingen, at hr. Forth og de andre underskrivere fandt, at det var et vigtigt spørgsmål — at spørgsmålet om Parlamentets eget budget burde gøres til genstand for en drøftelse og ikke fejes ind under tæppet og betragtes som et forslag, der ikke krævede debat.
Mr Hord (ED). — Mr President, Mr Forth is unable to be with us today and being one of the other signatories, I would like the House to know that Mr Forth and the other signatories felt that this was an important issue — the question of Parliament's own budget to be the subject of debate, not to be swept under the carpet and regarded as a proposal which did not war rant debate.
Det drejer sig ikke om indholdet af punkterne 8 og 9, det var et princip­spørgsmål.
It is not in regard to the substance of par agraphs 8 and 9, it was a question of principle.
Formanden. — Hr. Hord, jeg tror ikke, det er nødvendigt at have yderligere debat om det, for de ti pågældende medlemmer er i deres fulde ret i henhold til forretningsordenen til at anmode om forhandling om betænkningen.
Mr Aigner (PPE), Chairman of the Committee on Budgetary Control. — (DE).
Derfor vil jeg bede de andre, der har bedt om ordet, om at frafalde, for jeg tror, det er overflødigt.
Mr President, I would like to ask the signatories not to insist on requesting a debate at the present time.
Konrad Schön (PPE). — (DE) Hr. formand, som hovedordfører vil jeg gerne pege på, at det var budgetkontroludvalgets enstemmige opfattelse, at det ved Saby­betænkningen kun drejede sig om en inte­rimsbetænkning — en interimsbetænkning der af de grunde, hr. Aigner har nævnt, kun forelægger tallene.
There is no question about the need for a debate, and the Committee on Budget ary Control has resolved — unanimously, I believe — to hold one.
Edward Kellett-Bowman (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg mener, det vil være helt urimeligt at tage regn­skabet for 1982 som en del af forhandlingen om decharge for 1981.
We cannot simply discuss the figures, nor would there be any point in that, since we have to comply with the budget regulations and submit the requisite documents to the Commission.
Formanden. — Der foreligger en formel anmodning. De kan kun appellere til forslagsstillerne om at tage den tilbage.
President. — I think the best thing would be for you to get in touch with the authors of the request, but it is your absolute right to call for a debate when you have ten signatures, and those you have.
Formanden. — Hr. Kellett­Bowman, hvis ti medlemmer anmoder om en forhandling om lige­gyldig hvilket spørgsmål, har de ret til det, og så kommer der en forhandling.
President. — Mr Hord, I do not think it is necessary to have any further debate because the ten Members in question are fully entitled under the rules to ask for a debate on this report.
Glinne (S). — (FR) Hr. formand, hvilken skæbne der end venter måden at behandle hr. Såbys betænkning på, vil jeg gerne sige, at den tid, der er afsat til grup­perne onsdag, er ret begrænset.
Mr Konrad Schön (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, in my capacity as rapporteur I would like to mention that
Formanden. — Ja, sådan er det, fru Scrivener. Dags ordenen er fastholdt på dette punkt.
President. — No, Mrs Kellett-Bowman, if then Members ask for a debate, there is a debate, nothing else.
Boserup (COM) — Hr. formand, det gør mig ondt at skulle ulejlige Dem med denne sag, men af hensyn til protokollen må jeg sige, at meget agtede medlemmer af budgetkontroludvalget lider af kraftig erindringsforskydning, når de påstår, at beslutningen om at tage Saby-betænkningen uden forhandling var enstemmig.
It merely presents the figures, for the reason that Dr. Aigner has explained, I, too, therefore appeal to the signatories not to disrupt the procedure approved by the Committee on Budgetary Control, but to conduct the necessary — and I emphasize necessary — debate in May, when Mr Saby's work has been completed.
Jeg protesterede, og jeg stemte imod Saby-betænkningen.
President. — Here we are dealing with a formal request.
Jeg forstår ikke, hvorledes disse mine ærede kolleger kan få en så mystisk opfattelse af kendsgerningerne. ningerne.
All you can do, therefore, is to ask those who have tabled it to withdraw it.
Formanden. — Der er nu stillet forslag fra den socialistiske gruppe om at nedsætte taletiden for de ord førere, der forelægger deres betænkninger under forhandlingen under ét, til det halve.
President. — Yes, if the Committee on Budgetary Control insists that there can be no debate, then the proposal goes back to the committee in question but if the Committee on Budgetary Control accepts that there is a debate, then there is a debate. Otherwise it goes back to the committee.
(ForsUget fra den socialistiske gruppe vedtoges) de la Malène (DEP). — (FR) Hr. formand, min gruppe har pålagt mig at anmode om, at interimsbetænkningen af hr. Arndt tages af dagsordenen, og det af fire grunde.
Mr Glinne (S). — (FR) Mr President, irrespective of the decision on the debate on Mr Saby's report, I should like to say that the time allotted to the political groups is very short.
Ordførernes taletid vil altså blive reduceret til halv delen. Jeg anser det for vanskeligere at følge Deres forslag, for så vidt angår Kommissionen, eftersom denne ikke råder over nogen fast taletid.
Mrs Scrivener (L). — (FR) Mr President, I should like to ask for confirmation on this business of the discharge.
Jeg tror, at Kommissionen er klar over vore vanskeligheder med tidsplanen, og at den vil tage hensyn til det.
And the part which I would call 'Commission' has been withdrawn from the agenda, in view of what you have just said; I am of course referring to the report.
Men jeg vil ikke spænde Kommissionen ind i et korset, for det ville ikke være i de behandlede sagers interesse.
But the part deal ing with the European Parliament's accounts for 1981, which incidentally has been adopted by the Committee on Budgetary Control, will be taken in this partsession, if I have correctly understood you.
Det er den første fravigelse fra proceduren.
Would you be good enough to confirm this?
Elaine Kellett-Bowman (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg tager den bemærkning til mig, som hr. Aigner gjorde om, at der selvfølgelig, og yderst rimeligt, vil komme en debat her i Parlamentet om Saby-betænkningen, men må jeg spørge, hvad der præcist sker i henhold til artikel 34, stk. 2?
As far as my group is concerned, if the rapporteurs on the subjects of the joint debate use their ten minutes and if the representative of the Commission does like wise, then the Socialist group will have a total of twenty-nine minutes to speak on the reports by Mr Mihr, Mr Deleau and Mr Arndt, which is really too short.
Jeg forstår det sådan, at hvis ti medlemmer protesterer, får vi ikke en debat, ganske uanset grupperingen. Faktisk går det tilbage til udvalget, og det undrer mig.
Would it be at all possible to adopt for Wednesday the procedure of reducing speaking time which has already been decided on for Thursday?
Formanden. — Nej, fru Kellett-Bowman, hvis ti medlemmer anmoder om en forhandling, bliver der en forhandling, ikke andet.
President. — I have then a proposal from the Socialist Group to reduce by half the speaking time of rapporteurs presenting reports in joint debate.
De sidste tre linjer, hr. formand.
Are there any objections?
Fjerde bemærkning: Hvad slutter denne interimsbetænkning med?
(Parliament approved the proposal of the Socialist Group)
Formanden. — Ja, hvis budgetkontroludvalget fast holder, at der ikke kan være nogen forhandling, går forslaget tilbage til vedkommende udvalg, men hvis budgetkontroludvalget accepterer, at der bliver en forhandling, bliver der en forhandling.
Mrs Boserup (COM). — (DA) Mr President, I hate to inconvenience you with this matter but, from a pro cedural point of view, I must say that some highlyesteemed members of the Committee on Budgetary Control are suffering from a serious lapse of memory when they claim that the decision to take the Saby report without a debate was unanimous.
Ellers går det tilbage til udvalget.
I protested, and I voted against the Saby report.
Af disse grunde anmoder vi om, at dette punkt — midlertidigt — tages af dagsordenen, for at man igen kan følge en procedure, der er i overensstemmelse med vor forretningsorden, og som er sagens betydning værdig.
Mr de la Malène (DEP). — (FR) Mr President, I have been instructed by my group to request the with drawal from the agenda of Mr Arndt's interim report, for four reasons.
Hvis jeg har forstået det ret, er det delt i to dele for regnskabsåret 1981.
But I do not want to put the Commission in a strait jacket, since this would not be in the interest of the subjects dealt with.
Og den del, som jeg vil kalde »Kommissionen«, er, efter hvad De siger, taget af dagsordenen; det drejer sig naturligvis om betænkningen.
The first concerns the procedure followed by the Committee on Budgets.
Men det er en selvfølge, at den del, der vedrører Europa-Parlamentets regnskab for 1981 — som i øvrigt er vedtaget af budgetkontroludvalget — vil blive behandlet i indeværende mødeperiode, og det vil jeg gerne bede Dem bekræfte.
The Committee on Budgets was requested to draw up an own-initiative report on the financing of the Community; we have now been presented with a report on the 'communication from the Commission of the European Communities on the future financing of the Community'.
Formanden. — Før jeg sætter hr. de la Malenes anmodning under afstemning, skal jeg høre en taler for og en imod.
Mrs Elaine Kellett-Bowman (ED). — Mr President, taking on board the point that Mr Aigner has made that there will of course, and very properly, be a debate in this Parliament on the Saby report, may I enquire exactly what is happening under Rule 34(2)?
Har vi forstået det rigtigt, at det er sådan?
In fact it goes back to committee and that is what is puzzling me.
Hr. Lange har ordet for at tale imod, går jeg ud fra.
Parliament should consequently not let this opportunity slip of discussing the interim report.
komité og mit ordførerskab hos Dem — ville blive lettet betydeligt, hvis man kunne bytte rundt på sagerne og først sætte betænkningen til behandling først på eftermiddagen om onsdagen.
It can then call upon the Commission to amend the green book in such a way as to enable us to deal with the questions relating to the financing of the Community tho roughly and to the satisfaction of all the committees.
Jeg takker på forhånd for Deres forståelse, mine damer og herrer.
I am therefore in favour of leaving the interim report on the agenda.
Formanden. — Hr. Deleau, jeg kan ikke binde mig til, at det bliven ved eftermiddagsmødets begyndelse, men jeg kan foreslå, at vi bytter om på rækkefølgen, således at vi først tager forhandlingen om Arndtbetænkningen og derefter forhandlingen om Deres, der så kan begynde måske sidst på formiddagen, men mere sandsynligt først på eftermiddagen.
The third point is that the Committee on Agriculture, which is first and foremost concerned because the Commission in its thinking draws the whole of the CAP into question, has not been consulted and has not expressed an opinion.
Formanden. — Med hensyn til torsdag:
That is why we wish this item to be withdrawn from the agenda for the time being in order to return to the proper procedure as laid down in the Rules of Procedure. dure.
Lange (S), formand for budgetudvalget. — (DE) Deres formodning er rigtig, hr. formand.
Mr Nyborg (DEP). — (DA) Mr President, I feel I must just make a comment, because Mr Lange says that we have been asked to reach a decision.
Jeg synes ikke, at forudsætningerne for hr. de la Malenes anmodning er til stede.
Yes, but how can we in Parliament presume to take a decision on something on which the Commission itself has not come to a decision?