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Det er netop sagens kerne. De kan ikke sige, at Ministerrådet ikke har truffet nogen beslutninger og så samtidig være imod, at vi opnår fremskridt i forbindelse med beslutningsproceduren, hvorved vi kommer væk fra det, vi alle klager over som Luxembourg-forliget.
It may be that in the future further diminution of national sovereignty may be felt desirable, but that cannot be the case until such time as the Community has demonstrated within its present institutional legal framework the political will to confront real problems such as unemployment, low growth, low investment and continuing regional and social inequalities.
Om: Foranstaltninger på grundlag af andragende nr. 26/81 om 21 uruguayanske fanger
In short, policy measures which deal with existing problems must precede major institutional and legal changes and not the other way rounds if European political integration is to continue.
Fællesskabet vil udvikle sig væk hinanden, hvis vi ikke fortsætter en dynamisk proces.
I am also very interested to know where unanimity existed in the Council which dealt with the rapprochement between the Council's various Community-related and political functions.
Kan udenigsministrene oplyse, hvilken fremgangsmåde der anvendes ved den undersøgelse, der inden for det europæiske politiske samarbejde er i gang med hensyn til sagen om menneskerettighederne i Uruguay, og hvilke resultater er man nået frem til?
In this regard I cannot support the abandonment of the Luxembourg compromise in favour of majority voting in the Council at this stage.
Kan udenrigsministrene oplyse, hvilke foranstaltninger der er eller vil blive truffet på grundlag af Parlamentets beslutning af 9. februar 1981 om krænelse af menneskerettighederne i Uruguay og andragende nr. 26/81 om samme emne?
While I believe strongly that the national veto should be used only in the most extreme cases, we cannot expect smaller Member States, or indeed Socialist parties, to abandon it, as proposed, in the absence of any sign of serious intent to radicalize policies to confront the Com munity's economic and social crises.
Nu vil jeg i al oprigtighed sige én ting: Jeg vil ikke træde frem for Parlamentet med et fælles produkt fra Ministrrådet, der ikke mere fortjener navnet et skridt henimod den europæiske union.
So I hope that the European Council, when it meets in Stuttgart, will live up to its own bombastic utterances, or at least those which appear in the European Act: that they will be aware of the international responsibility devolving upon Europe by virtue of its level of civilization (my God!), and that the same Council will be civilized enough to call a spade a spade and a treaty amendment a treaty amendment.
Så vil jeg hellere komme her og meget mere åbent end tidligere sige, hvor for dette forehavende er strandet.
The Genscher-Colombo Plan is an attempt to put through treaty amend ments without ratification.
Så skal den europæiske offentlighed også erfare, hvorfor vi ikke kan tage dette nødvendige skridt.
And that sort of thing is not on, for one of the factors in the Danish level of civilization is respect for the Constitution, and the Constitution is not amended in EEC assemblies but in the Danish Folketing.
(Bifald) van Minnen (S). — (NL) Jeg ser til min glæde, at ministeren hurtigt samler dokumenterne.
In the area of political cooperation I would urge a word of caution.
Jeg håber heller ikke, at dette propfyldte Parlament er særlig forundret over, at dette sørgsmål nu bliver taget op.
Obviously there is room for greater political cooperation, but this must be based on genuine political principles and not on a desire to con struct, for example, a common security policy without regard to principles.
Først nu et år efter står dette spørgsmål på vor dags ordenen, og det er ikke Deres skyld, hr. Genscher.
If Europe is to have a common position on security in the future, it must be based not on defence policy, as originally proposed, but on an active foreign policy which is committed to peace and which confronts both US and USSR military adventurism in Europe and abroad.
Jeg tror, at det er et tydeligt bevis på både den hastighed og da også den stædighed i ordets bedste forstand, hvormed møllerne maler.
There can be no security for Europe without international disarmament, and our objectives must be to seek to bring that about through agreed foreign rather than defence policy initiatives. tiatives.
Det drejer sig om en arv, hr. Genscher, fra det belgiske formandskabs tid. Somme tider arver man jo noget fra ubekendte slægtninge. Det drejer sig altså om en arv, men det drejer sig ikke om Dem som fungerende formand, som nu samtidig kan betragtes som testamentseksektor, for problement er stadig i høj grad aktuelt.
Mr O'Mahony (S). — Mr President, in the time avail able I can only make a number of short, though I hope practical, points.
Og det højst uanstændige svar, — jeg håber, at ordet unanstændig lige netop' er anstændigt nok til Parlamentets protokol — det højst uanstændige svar, hvormed hr. Tindemans troede, at
I would make two initial comments before indicating a number of specific reservations.
midt i det afskyelige latinamerikanske katalog, hvor menneskerettigheder tilbydes til salg for en slik.
You know, of course, that there are people in the Council who share your views. Others are obstructing progress.
Det er det, som stadig er aktuelt ved denne i sig selv gamle mundtlige forespørgsel.
If you want to mobilize Europe, you will not impress the public by speaking in metaphors that no one under stands.
Og vi må heller ikke udsatte et presserende virkeligt svar, langere af den grund at der snart igen står en flot interparlamentarisk euro-latin-amerikanisk konference på vort program.
I will be quite frank: I was very pleased by many of the speeches that have been made, and there were others I considered poor, but I would not criticize the European Parliament as such just because a few Members say they are against the continued development of the Community towards European Union.
Fylder vi nu igen dette møde med skinhellighed, eller fylder vi det med tydelighed?
I would say to these Members: unless you define our security interests in Europe clearly, you will find this Europe becoming the plaything of international politics.
Svaret derpå kommer også i den korte forhandling, som vi håber at afholde i eftermiddag.
This is also an aspect of foreign policy.
Men de ville ikke gribe til en demarche, skrev han dengang, tværtimod »over lades det medlemsstaterne at optage kontakt på bilateralt grundlag med de uruguayanske myndigheder om disse menneskerettigheder«.
I ask you to use the weeks ahead to rally the European public to help those in the various Member States who want to take a step towards European Union and to encourage those who have their reservations in this respect.
Som om der ikke netop i forbindelse med menneskerettigheder burde være kraft bag en fælles optræden fra Fællesskabets side.
In the talks the three Presidents have had today it has been agreed that the next meeting between the Council and Parliament's delegation should take place on 25 April and thus before the For eign Ministers have what I hope will be their final discussions on the European Act in Bonn in May.
Det er i en vis forstand noget nyt, men det var det undvigende svar, som udenrigsministrene gav sidste år, når alt kommer til alt i lige så høj grad. Hvis det blot havde været et utilfredsstillende svar, var der ikke en kat, der ville have reageret.
After this debate I have really only one request to make of the House — with many óf whose criticisms I agree — and that is that in the crucial weeks ahead it give us the support we need, in public and elsewhere, so that we may achieve what those who are concerned about Europe want, a genuine step for wards on the road to European Union.
van den Heuvel (S). — (NL) Hr. formand, da beslutningen om krænkelsen af menneskerettighederne i Uruguay blev vedtaget af Parlamentet den 9. februar, skete det med meget stort flertal.
If you are not prepared to include cultural interests in our joint efforts, you will be abandoning an essential aspect of the European identity.
Kommissær Andriessen tilsluttede sig varmt ordføreren.
President. — The debate is closed.
Udtalelser fra folkerepræsentanter, sagde han, er nødvendige.
The vote will be taken at the next voting time.
I første række indeholder spørgsmålet endnu en gang et forsøg på at få at vide af udenrigsministeren — og denne gang i Parlamentet — hvordan udenrigsministrene har i sinde at optræde over for den vedvarende krænkelse af menneskerettighederne i Uruguay.
President. — The next item is the Oral Question with debate by the Committee on the Rules of Procedure and Petitions (Doc.
Tortur, som med hensyn til grusomhed endnu ikke er formindsket, som tværtimod er forbillede for så mange krænkelser af menneskerettighederne i Latinamerika i dag.
1-31/83) to the Foreign Ministers of the Ten Member States of the European Com munity meeting in political cooperation.
Også efter februar 1981 udtalte Europa-Parlamentet sig forskellige gange om Uruguay. Den 11. marts 1982 var der Barbi-beslutningen om de politiske partiers situation i dette land.
Subject: Action taken on Petition No 26/81 con cerning 21 Uruguayan prisoners.
Den diplomatiske vej anføres heri, De forenede Nationer anføres heri samt behandling af spørgsmålet om menneskerettighederne i Uruguay på dem førstkommende samling, som det blev sagt dengang, men dem samling er naturligvis blevet holdt for lang tid siden, på Menneskerettighedskommissionens næste møde i Genève.
Can the Foreign Ministers indicate which action has been or will be taken following Parliament's resolution of 9 February 1981 on the violation of human rights in Uruguay and the petition No 26/81 on the same subject?
Hvad er der dog sket med dette indtrængende og med stort flertal af Parlamentet udtrykte ønske?
We are all aware that we do not want to do anything here that we can do in the Council of Europe.
Det er essensen af vort spørgsmål i dag.
That is the essential point.
Ligesom vi egentlig også gerne vil vide, hvad der er kommet ud af Parlamentets lige så indtrængende appel til medlemsstaternes regeringer om straks at ophøre med at medvirke til våbenleverancer til den uruguayanske regering.
You will not make any of the urgently needed progress in the fight against unemployment or in the internal development of our Community unless you join with us within the framework of this European Act in advocating an improvement in the Council's decisionmaking machinery.
Europas borgere, på hvis vegne vi også taler her i dag, kan være overbeviste om, at deres repræsentanter i Europa-Parlamentet har taget og tager sagen alvorligt.
You cannot, on the one hand, say the Council has not taken any decisions and, on the other, be opposed to progress in decision-making which will rid us of the Luxembourg compromise that we all criticize.
Men hvad må disse borgere tænke om uden rigsministrene i deres lande?
In other words, we must act together if we want to develop Europe further.
Har de også blot i nogen grad reageret tilfredsstillende på den opgave, som de europæiske folkerepræsentanter har givet dem?
This Community will break up unless we continue with a dynamic process. That is why we support this Act.
Fru Antonellis andragende, hvori hun henledte opmærksomheden på 21 politiske fangers skæbne i Uruguay, var en god lejlighed for udvalget for forretningsordenen og for andragender til derefter at forhøre sig hos Rådet.
And I will say this quite openly: I shall not come to this Parliament with a joint product of the Council of Ministers that is no longer worthy of being called a step towards European Union.
Det svar, hr. formand, som blev givet af den daværende rådsformand. Leo Tindemans, er chokerende.
I would rather come here and state far more frankly than in the past why this project has failed.
Lakonisk meddelte han, det forhenværende medlem af Europa-Parlamentet Leo Tindemans, at problemet helt bestemt bliver undersøgt, men at der ikke på De Ti's vegne ville blive truffet nogen forholdsregler.
Mr Van Minnen (S). — (NL) I am happy to observe that the minister is rapidly arranging his papers. Nor, I trust, does it come as any surprise to the capacity audience present in the House that we have finally got round to treating this question.
Det var op til de enkelte medlems stater at optage kontakt med de uruguayanske
Finally, after one year — and it's not your fault, Minister Genscher — the question has come up for discussion and is, I feel, a
Det ved vi erfarne politikere da kun alt for godt.
Such is the main thrust of our question today.
Selv det var åbenbart for megen ære for et Parlament, om hvis valg de samme regeringsrepræsentanter i maj 1984, det kan jeg allerede forudsige, vil sige mange smukke ord og vil have meget positivt at fortælle vælgerne.
We should also like to know what has become of our equally pressing exhortation to Member State govern ments for an immediate embargo on the sale of arms to the Uruguayan regime.
En tilsvarende intervention fra De forenede Staters side foregår også i Sydamerikas lande.
We are dealing here, Minister Genscher, with a legacy from the Belgian presidency.
Jeg vil derfor gerne spørge hr. Genscher, som sagde, at han ikke ønsker at se Vesteuropa som legetøj for de to supermagter, hvorfor det er USAs legetøj i Latin- og Centralamerika? Hvorfor siger man ikke et klart nej, som ville medvirke til at isolere De forenede Staters umenneskelighed, barbari og forbryderiske politik?
It is not unheard of to inherit from unknown blood-relations but one would not, for all that, wish to saddle you with the role of testamentary executor alongside that of President-in-Office of the Council for the subject-matter before us has been, to say the very least, overtaken by events.
Genscher, formand for Rådet af udenrigsministre. — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, da den sidste taler talte om isolering og barbari, tænkte jeg først, at han mente den sovjetiske invasion i Afghani stan, men den omtalte han ikke.
The most unseemly response — and I trust the word 'unseemly' is just seemly enough to be included in the parliamentary minutes — with which Mr Tindemans, speaking for the Council on 9 March last year on the fate of the Uruguayan prisoners, hoped to dispense with the problem ought to shock us every bit as much today as it did one year ago.
Men kan det egentlig undre, at man reagerer således?
Uruguay is not a free agent.
Er det ikke fortvivlende, at Europa-Parlamentet, en af de få institutioner, som stræber efter at opføre sig i overens stemmelse med Fællesskabets grundlæggeres hen sigter, som den eneste valgte institution truer med at blive offer derfor?
If it were, I should be tempted to cry out with joy. It is today part and parcel of that hideous Latin American chronicle in which human rights are sacrificed for a trifle.
Jeg vil gerne besvare den mundtlige forespørgsel.
Such then is the background to this, in itself, less than new, oral question with debate.
De Ti's udenrigsministre deler parlamentsmedlemmernes bekymringer over krænkelserne af menneskerettighederne i Uruguay, især behandlingen af politiske fanger.
And we cannot any longer refrain from addressing ourselves to this already long overdue issue, not least in view of the fact that yet another in the round of those memorable interparliamentary Euro-Latin American conferences is scheduled to take place shortly.
Fængselsforholdene synes at være uantagelige.
We must come out in favour of hypocrisy or clarity.
Jeg vil gerne tilføje, at vi ser positivt på Uruguays samarbejde med Menneskerettighedskommissionen i Genève.
The then president of the Council of Community for eign ministers informed us at that time that human rights in Uruguay had been examined, but he did not intend to recommend a Community initiative.
Jeg vil desuden foreslå mine kolleger, at vi på grundlag af de oplysninger, vi nu har til rådighed, på ny og.i fællesskab som ti stater i Det europæiske Fællesskab foretager demarche over for den uruguayske regering.
I must add in passing that both the Committee on Petitions, to whom the Uruguayan prisoners launched their appeal, and the Political Affairs Committee, with whom we quite naturally liaised, were deeply dismayed by such an answer.
Min gruppe er udvalget for forretningsordenen og for andragender taknemlig for, at det gennem en mundtlig forespørgsel med forhandling har taget denne sag op i plenarforsamlingen.
This resulted in our decision to invoke the procedure provided for in Article 42 of our Rules of Procedure in going public by bringing this petition before the plenary sitting of the House.
Der er risiko for, at forargelsen over udenrigsministrenes opførsel vil få os til at glemme, hvad dette egentlig drejer sig om.
Such a course is, to some extent, a novelty, but no more so than minister Tindeman's terminal answer last year.
Fru Antonelli henleder De Ti's opmærksomhed på 21 franger, som må lide på en utrolig måde.
Had that answer been no more than unsatisfactory no one would have been any the wiser.
Under forhandlingen i anledning af min betænkning i februar 1981 drøftede vi udførligt de former for tortur, som regimet i Uruguay anvender, jeg vil ikke gentage det her.
Ms Van den Heuvel (S). — (NL) Mr President, the resolution of which I was the rapporteur, on human rights violations in Uruguay, was adopted by an over whelming majority of this House on 9 February 1981.
Der bliver stadig trampet på menneskerettighederne i Uruguay.
Needless to say I found such support heartwarming.
Mere end 1 000 borgere, bl.a. Liber Seregni, som er blevet symbol på de demokratiske kræfters enhed og samarbejde og på modstanden og kampen for demokratiet, mere end tusinde fanger sidder fængslet under absolut uacceptable forhold i Uruguay.
As has been stated by my colleague, Mr Van Minnen, the Council of Foreign Ministers were requested to draw up suitable joint measures, and I would emphasize the word 'joint' both diplomatically and in the UN framework with a view to making a strong protest to the Uruguayan authorities at their violation of human rights and to repeat such protest in the unlikely event of further abuses being allowed to come to our attention.
Det er endnu ikke for sent at reagere for udenrigsministrene i de ti europæiske medlemsstater, som prioriterer menneskerettighederne så højt.
The Council presidency did not participate in the debate but Commissioner Andriessen, on behalf of the Commission, warmly endorsed the resolution.
Jeg beder derfor nu rådsformanden om at sige noget mere positivt her end hans forgænger.
Parlia mentary pronouncements were, we felt, necessary in such cases.
FORSÆDE: EGON KLEPSCH Næstformand van Minnen (S). — (NL) Blot et enkelt spørgsmål, hr. Genscher, da Deres sidste bemærkning selvfølgelig glæder os og står i modsætning til det, hr. Tindemans i sin tid sagde.
Our question to day is two-fold. It represents, on the one hand, a further attempt, at shedding light, this time before the House, on the way in which the Council of Foreign Ministers intend to take up the issue of the continuing human rights violations in Uruguay: torture practices which have lost none of their gruesomeness, but have, rather, become the hallmark of the innumerable human rights violations in the Latin America today.
Men hvordan får vi endeligt svar fra Dem?
I shall pause for a while for I see that the President-in-Office was other wise occupied . . .
Kommer De selv med det, og tror De, at De kan gøre det inden for kort tid?
Thus we had the Barbi resolution on the situation of political parties in that country, on 11 March 1982.
Genscher, formand for Rådet af udenrigsministre. — (DE) Når vi er i stand til det, vil vi informere Parlamentet. mentet.
Need less to say the draft annual report of this Parliament, now in preparation, contains a reference to the situation in Uruguay, authored by the co-rapporteur, Mr Gawronski.
Formanden. — Rådet vil altså selv komme tilbage dertil.
The Community's citizens on whose behalf we are speaking today may rest assured that this subject con-
Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Hr. formand, jeg er helt enig med de forrige talere, og også jeg vil gerne sige, at forsvaret af det uruguayanske folks rettigheder er specielt vigtigt, ikke blot fordi de overtrædes på den mest dystre måde, men også fordi dette folk på heroisk vis har nægtet at underkaste sig, hvilket det viste både med sit standpunkt ved folkeafstemningen i 1980 og med massefordømmelsen af regeringskandidaterne ved det pseudovalg, som blev afholdt for få måneder siden, i november 1982.
Secondly we are asking the Council of Foreign Ministers what follow up they have undertaken concerning the Van den Heuvel resolution adopted, one must emphasize, by this House some two years ago, urging the Council to take appropriate action on the petitions submitted and providing guidelines for such measures.
Også jeg vil derfor bringe spørgsmålet om forsvaret af menneskerettighederne i Uruguay på bane, og især i forbindelse med general Liber Seregni, leder af folkefronten i Uruguay, hvis medlemmer holdes fængslede på en måde, som er den måske mest fremtrædende form for fængsling i Latinamerika i dag.
It highlights the diplomatic approach, the UN and the, at the time, forthcoming conference of the Commission on Human Rights, in Geneva.
Dermed er forhandlingen afsluttet.
Needless to say, that conference is long since over.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er rede gørelse fra Rådet om resultaterne af den fjerde EØF—ASEAN-samling.
Van den Heuvel democratic forces and of resistance and the struggle for democracy.
For det andet: Fra begge sider var der enighed om, at Afghanistanspørgsmålet stadig er en alvorlig belastning for situationen i området og for de internationale forbindelser.
It is still not too late for the Foreign Ministers of the ten Community Member States to ascribe a high priority to human rights and to take act ion.
Genscher, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, den 24.—25. marts i år fandt det fjerde EØF—ASEAN-udenrigsminister-møde sted i Bangkok.
Mr Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Mr President, I agree with what the colleagues who spoke earlier have said, and I would like to add that defending the rights of the Uruguayan people is particularly important, not only because those rights are being suppressed in the most brutal way, but also because the people have been heroic in their refusal to be subjugated, as they showed by their attitude to the referendum of 1980 and their mass condemnation of the governmental candidates in the pseudo-elections held a few months ago, in November 1982.
For det tredje: For så vidt angik Mellemøsten, under stregede vi, at det hastede med at finde en snarlig løsning, og vi opfordrede alle parter til ikke at ødelægge de nuværende chancer for fremskridt i retning mod fred.
I therefore wish to take this opportunity of raising the matter of defending human rights in Uruguay, and to make a special plea on behalf of General Liber Seregni, leader of Uruguay's broad front, who is a political prisoner and who is today perhaps the most eminent such prisoner in Latin America.
Vi ønsker specielt at samarbejde som led i UNCTAD 4 ved en hurtig genoptagelse af nord-syd-dialogen og spørgsmålet om råstoffer.
But what are they to think of the Foreign Ministers of their own Member States?
Jeg skal her aflægge beretning om forløbet og resultaterne af denne samling samt om EØF—ASEAN-samarbejdet på nuværende tidspunkt.
Have these ministers given any serious consideration to the task with which the elected representatives of the Community's citizens entrusted them?
Jeg vil i den forbindelse gerne fremhæve det forbilledlige samarbejde mellem to regionale sammenslutninger: mellem Det europæiske Fællesskab og Sammenslutningen af stater i Sydøstasien.
Mrs Antonelli's petition, before us today, in which she draws attention to the plight of 21 political prisoners in Uruguay, provided the Com mittee on the Rules of Procedure and Petitions with a good opportunity to take up the matter with the Council.