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I hvert fald er det værd at bemærke, at Dansk Arbejdsgiverforening støtter for slaget fra EF.
Therefore, the policy followed by the Commission was one of distinguishing between health protection for women and discrimination at the work place.
Vi ville fastslå, om beskyttelse på arbejdspladserne burde indskrænkes på grund af en eventuel diskriminering af kvinder.
Complicated because we are trying to bring about improved protection for work ers, and that is something we all want, but at the same time we realize that it means asking employers to stand the cost of our new demands.
Uheldig er også bestemmelsen om, at der skal være særlig lave grænseværdier for kvinder i den fødedygtige alder.
The essential problem in protection lies in the difficulty of measuring precisely the amounts of lead in the atmosphere and in the blood and urine of those people who are at risk.
Det kan meget nemt føre til, at man spærrer en række arbejdspladser af for kvinder i stedet for at gøre vilkårene bedre.
The problem arises basically because of the lack of precision in the measuring instruments which are currently available on the market.
I den forbindelse er det måske værd at gøre opmærskom på, at dette ikke med sikkerhed beskytter kommende generationer mod skader.
That is a point which I have already had to make during our deliberations and I was glad to see that it was included in the resolution.
Mændenes sædceller menes også efter en del forskeres opfattelse at kunne tage skade som følge af udsættelse for store mængder bly.
Indeed, I recently put a written ques tion to the Commission in which I made the point that problems arise from the fact that when different measurements are taken, comparisons no longer have any validity.
Mine ændringsforslag går i retning af at de af Kommissionen foreslåede grænseværdier bibeholdes, og at forskellen mellem mænd og kvinder opretholdes.
It does however appear that the Committee on Adaptation to scientific and technical progress has been given the job of establishing measurement methods.
Det er nødvendigt at foretage et regelmæssigt tilsyn, vi må i rette tid erkende farezonerne for at drage konsekvenserne heraf, og vi må undgå sundhedsmæssige risisci.
Because the fact is that when the Committee on the Environment asks the Commission in Brussels to ensure that lead concentration measurements were comparable in every Member State, it is not enough to ask for it to be done 'as soon as possible'; a date has to be specified.
Endelig går direktivforslaget ind for, at man også skal tage hensyn til den enkelte arbejdstagers følsomhed over for bly. Man skal med andre ord foretage en opdeling af arbejderne i dem, der kan tåle de farlige arbejdspladser, og dem der ikke kan.
Because we all know from experience that in an area as sensitive as this the time required to put the Commission's propos als into effect is likely to leave the directive useless.
De sidste kan så blive sparket ud.
And of course that is not what we are seeking.
Jeg tror ikke, det var noget sådant, Darwin tænkte på, da han talte om de stærkeres over levelse — the survial of the fittest.
For this reason I proposed a time limit of 1985 and the Committee on the Environment has accepted it.
Til slut vil jeg gerne rette en hjertelig tak til fru Scrivener. Hendes idéer om sundheden svarer absolut til vort udvalgs opfattelse, for hun har selv i sit land haft et ansvarsfuldt job inden for det sundhedsmæssige område og ved, hvor vidt konsekvenserne af disse ting rækker.
On this point, I should like to submit to the Commission two requests which are directly or indirectly linked to this directive and which are also linked to what we ourselves put in the directive, concerning atmospheric pollution, this is the fact that protecting workers from harmful substances within the factory should not mean pushing all the pollution out into the atmosphere.
Da hun nævnte de samme punkter som jeg, vil jeg gerne bede om, at Parlamentet endnu en gang overvejer disse spørgsmål og i morgen tilslutter sig mine forslag.
Therefore, I should like to ask what became of the draft directive concerning the lead content of petrol.
Det danske Arbejdsmiljøråd har haft sagen til udtalelse, og lønmodtagernes organisationer LO og FTF opfordrer Danmark til at nedlægge veto, hvis der ikke kan gennemføres ensartet lave grænseværdier.
Perhaps I am not very well informed, perhaps it was voted on during the last meeting of the Council of Environment Ministers, but up to one month ago the directive on lead content in petrol had not yet been adopted.
Jeg må derfor gentage min opfordring fra før til at stemme imod det.
When we talk about populations, we must think in particular about babies, who play in fields — fields are next to roads — and lead from petrol settles on the grass in these fields.
Skovmand. — Hr. formand, det forslag, vi her behandler, beskæftiger sig med beskyttelse af arbejds tagere mod skadelig udsættelse for metallisk bly og dettes ion-forbindelser under arbejdet.
Babies are therefore play ing in a polluted environment and they are the first to suffer all the consequences of lead poisoning, which are many and harsh with longterm effects as well.
Det lyder umiddelbart som noget, enhver må kunne støtte. Alle må jo være interesseret i, at arbejderne beskyttes mod at blive udsat for sygdomme på grund af arbejdet med blyholdige stoffer.
The Committee on the Environment and Public Health considered that there should not be any blatant contradiction in terms between workplace and health.
Rammedirektivet er, efter høring af den græske regering, formelt godkendt af Rådet. Hr. Sherlock har med rette udtalt, at dette direktiv har dannet grundlag for et antal bestemmelser til gavn for arbejdstagernes helbred.
The dilemma which existed between the need to occupy a workplace and for health protection has now been largely overcome.
Alligevel vil jeg opfordre til, at man stemmer mod forslaget, fordi det slet ikke har til formål at beskytte arbejderrie, fordi det kan komme til at betyde, at arbejdere udsættes for en større dosis, end de ellers ville blive udsat for, fordi det skaber en urimelig forskel mellem mænd og kvinder, og fordi det indfører et farligt princip, nemlig at man skal under søge arbejderne og skifte dem ud i stedet for at gøre noget ved de forhold, der gør dem syge.
Badly managed firms, or ones which do not know how to plan ahead, close, but firms which think about the health of their workers do not close because expenditure on worker health means much greater sums saved by the community.
Kommissionen har nu stillet nærværende forslag.
My third and last comment relates to Article 8 of the directive, where I believe we should keep the limit values which the Commission is proposing.
Vi har også stillet et andet forslag til Rådet vedrørende
On the other hand, these limit values should be applied to men
De toksiske følger af bly og forurening med bly på arbejdspladsen har længe været kendt, og videnskabens kendskab til den toksiske virkning af bly er den mest fuldstændige af alle, som fru Schleicher for lidt siden bemærkede.
That is the only way in which we can protect the health of all working people with­out jeopardizing another right which should be sacred but which is not, and that, in the crisis we have about us today, is the right to work and the right to earn.
Mere end en million arbejdere inden for Det europæiske Fællesskab kommer i berøring med grundstoffet bly og dets forbindelser.
as well as to women, for the simple reason that in practice men and women work together in the same factories and are subjected to the same hazards.
Forslaget får indflydelse på en stor del af industrien i Fællesskabet og konfronterer også arbejdsmarkedets parter på europæisk plan og inden for vore medlemsstater med Det europæiske Fællesskabs aktioner for sundhed og sikkerhed på arbejdspladsen.
I shall therefore be asking for Article 8 (b) to be subject to a separate vote so that we can vote on paragraph b — which says that there shall be no discrimination between men and women, and which has been adopted by the Committee on the Environment — but so that we can also restore the Commission text as regards the levels of lead in the blood.
Selv om der allerede eksisterer en ret omfangsrig lovgivning på dette område i medlemsstaterne, har Kommissionenen alligevel anbefalet staterne umiddelbart at udvide beskyttelsen af arbejdstagerne mod bly med de kategorier af arbejds tagere, der for tiden endnu ikke er omfattet af de respektive lovgivninger.
Mrs Schleicher. — (D) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I asked to speak because I should like to explain the motives underlying the two amendments I have tabled and for which I think I can count on support, at least in some cases, judging from what has been said by various speakers.
De ved, hr. formand, at fristen for ikrafttrædelsen af vort direktiv er tolv måneder, og vi har sat en overgangsperiode indtil den 1. januar 1985 for de strengere normer, som vi har foreslået.
Mrs Roudy. — (F) I would first of all like to offer my thanks to Mr Sherlock who has given us a great deal of enjoyment this evening at the end of what has been a very wearisome day.
Men Kommissionen vil — det kan jeg love Parlamentet — forsøge i fremtiden at sørge for en ensartet og maksimal beskyttelse af mænd og kvinder.
I have a very soft spot for the English language and am always moved when I hear it used to great effect, and I am sure that he was doing so just now.
På det område er der endnu mange ukendte faktorer. Jeg vil om lidt sige noget mere om det.
There was even, I think, a touch of Shak­espeare in what he was saying, and I am genuinely grateful for the aesthetic pleasure which it gave us.
Jeg kommer nu til beslutningsforslaget, der er inde holdt i betænkningen af Newton Dunn. Beslutningsforslaget volder os ikke nogen videre problemer.
Since lead has been mined and processed for centuries, the occupational diseases to which it can lead are among those few which have been best researched- up to now, and for the same reason protective measures in this sector, including in particular monitoring of the health of the worker, also has a very long history.
Jeg vil gerne gøre opmærksom på, at der i forslagets punkt 9 udtales, at direktivet og det allerede eksisterende rammedirektiv må bringes i overensstemmelse med hinanden.
I can say on behalf of my own country — and this does not necessarily apply for other countries as I do not know whether the same progress has been made else­where as regard protective measures — that we lowered the biological values only a few years ago.
Hr. formand, det er jeg helt enig i, og jeg kan love Parlamentet, at vi ud over de ændrings forslag, der er stillet i betænkningen af Newton Dunn, vil lade en tilpasning af direktivet til ramme direktivet indgå i de ændringsforslag, vi vil forelægge Rådet.
This led to increased monitoring since if the blood level at a particular place of work falls between 60 and 80 μg/100 ml, more strict monitoring is now required.
Hvad er forslagets vigtigste kendetegn?
If, however it is higher than 80 μg/100 ml, the person in question must discontinue work at this point.
Jeg tror, at det først og fremmest er det formål, at beskytte alle arbejdstagere mod udsættelse for bly.
This has led to a drastic reduction in the incidence of illness resulting from lead at the workplace.
Til beskyttelsen af den enkelte arbejdstager er der foreslået biologiske grænseværdier.
For example, in 1974 there were eleven cases, in 1975 fourteen, in 1976 seven, in 1977 seven again and in 1978 only five.
Dertil har vi anvendt to indikatorer. Først og fremmest blyindholdet i blodet og dernæst blyindholdet i urinen.
We take the view that this reduction in the number of lead casualties has been achieved by the measures introduced and this is why I have quoted these figures.
For at imødegå de teknologiske og økonomiske vanskelig heder ved på en gang at indføre grænseværdierne i fuldt omfang, har vi opdelt vort forslag i et antal faser.
I do have to say though, Mr Sherlock, that we are talking about serious matters and that we must be serious about them.
Med henblik på den mest sårbare gruppe af arbejdstagere, der udsættes for bly — og jeg sigter til den gruppe arbejdstagere, der allerede har været omtalt af mange mandlige, men ¡sær kvindelige talere, nemlig de gravide arbejdstagere og generelt set de kvindelige arbejdstagere, der er i den fødedygtige alder — har vi foreslået strengere bestemmelser, der umiddelbart kan sættes i kraft.
What we have before us this evening is a directive aimed at protecting working people, and aimed at protecting working men and women.
Efterhånden, som de strengere grænseværdier lidt efter lidt vil blive indført, bliver forskellen i beskyttelsen af de forskellige kategorier af arbejdstagere mindre.
It is a fact that this directive sets different norms for the sexes and that the result would be that almost 70 % of women of working age would be barred from jobs at a time when they need to work.
Endvidere vil Kommissionen begrænse entallet af arbejdstagere, der udsættes for toksiske agentier; det har vi også i rammedirektivet angivet som målsætning.
The fact is that people do not always work for fun and women do not spend the whole of their lives from 14 to 45 bearing children.
Til beslutningsforslaget er der stillet tre ændrings forslag.
That was true enough at one time but it is no longer the case.
Først er der to af fru Schleicher.
A lot of women need to work nowadays.
Jeg vil om lidt, når der skal tales om ændringsforslagene til selve direktivets indhold, beskæftige mig lidt med dem.
1 have got the article in front of me here.
Det vil i første omgang være en opgave for medlemsstaterne.
It was in the New Scientist on 25 September 1980.
Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne sige Dem, at vi glæder os over Parlamentets støtte og over den måde, hvorpå vort forslag er blevet modtaget.
In the new Commission proposal, the blood values have been reduced to 60 μg/100 ml, which means that if a worker is found to have this amount of lead in his blood, he must stop working at the place in question, since under Article 12, workers may no longer be exposed to lead if one of the individual biological limit values is reached.
Vi har fået et ret stort antal tekniske ændringsforslag fra parlamentsudvalgets side, og jeg vil især udtrykke min tak til hr. Newton Dunn.
This means that the values specified by the Commission are above those in force in Germany up to now.
Jeg kommer nu til forslagene til ændring, og jeg må appellere til Deres tålmodighed, fordi det her drejer sig om et stort antal indviklede forslag til ændring, der er stillet af parlamentsudvalget, og hvis vi tager lovgivningsforløbet i Parlamentet alvorligt, er jeg nødt til at drøfte dem alle.
So harmful in fact — and there has been cases at the Penaroya works in France — that failure to give adequate protection gave a number of male workers problems with their genital organs; some of them became impotent.
Sådan er det nu engang i et parlamentarisk demokrati.
Lead, ladies and gentlemen, is bad for every organ in the body.
Vi har foreslået at gøre det mindst én gang om året.
We didn't know it before but we suspected it; now we are sure.
Udvalget foreslår at gøre det 4 gange om året.
The only way in which we shall be able to right
Hr. formand, ændringsforslagene, som Parlamentet har forelagt, har næsten alle til hensigt at forøge arbejdstagernes beskyttelse, uden at Parlamentet har ønsket at overdrive. Kommissionen kan i store træk
However, if, for the sake of equal conditions we reduce the limit values still further in the interests of women and fix a level of 40 μg/100 ml for all workers, i.e. including men, a series of workers will suddenly have to give up their jobs without there being any evidence that the risk to their health is such as to justify this.
Der er stillet et andet forslag til ændring af artikel 4, stk. 2, der går ud på, at blyindholdet måles på det tidpunkt, hvor der er sandsynlighed for, at blyind-
Anyone can give up his job if he wishes to, but if he is compelled to, this is, I am sure you will agree, a rather drastic step to take.
Det har vi heller ingen indvendinger imod bortset fra, at jeg vil tage det forbehold, at det måske teknisk set ikke kan lade sig gøre at fastslå, på hvilke tidspunkter blyindholdet er størst.
At any rate, it is worth mentioning that the Danish Employers' Asso­ciation supports the Community proposal.
Forslaget til ændring af artikel 5, stk. 1, der går ud på, at arbejdsgiveren må betale omkostningerne ved undersøgelsen kan ligeledes accepteres.
We wanted to determine whether the extent of protection should be reduced on the grounds that it could lead to discrimination against women.
I det andet forslag til ændring af samme stykke i artikel 5 ønskes en måling af blyindholdet i blodet hver sjette måned og af blyindholdet i urinen fire gange om året; dette er lidt oftere end vi har foreslået, men kan ikke desto mindre accepteres.
Members of this committee, of every political complexion, took the view that special protection for women must be maintained in the future, in view of their childbearing capacity.
Hr. formand, rigtigheden af problemstillingen, som fru Roudy har givet udtryk for, nemlig at uensartede normer kan lede til en faktisk diskrimination mellem mænd og kvinder, til skade for kvinderne med hensyn til adgangen til arbejde, denne problematik anerkender jeg som sådan.
The provision that particularly low limit values should be applied for women of childbearing age is also unfortunate since this could easily result in women being barred from a number of jobs, rather than the conditions being improved.
Hr. Sherlock har hertil knyttet en kommentar, hvori han nævnte nabo til venstre, hr. Alex Berlin, tjenestemand i Kommissionen, hvilket i almindelighed — jeg ved ikke, om De nogen sinde har været medlem af et nationalt parlament, hr. Sherlock — ikke er skik og brug.
It is perhaps worth point­ing out in this connection that this will not necessarily protect future generations from damage since, accord­ing to some researchers, male spermatozoa may also be damaged as a result of exposure to high levels of lead.
Det er efter min opfattelse ikke fair.
There should certainly be special protection in the case of pregnancy, but, for the rest, the level proposed by the Commission should be adopted.
Til beskyttelse af min medarbejder, der her ikke kan udtale sig, vil jeg anmode Dem om at lade, som om disse ord ikke var udtalt.
We need regular monitoring, we must ascertain the danger area in good time if we are to be able to draw conclu­sions and we must avoid damage to health.
Hr. Sherlock har allerede fået nogle svar, navnlig fra nogle kvindelige medlemmer af Parlamentet, og jeg har bemærket, at de ikke var vrede på ham. De talte til ham med en vis'blidhed, som om hr. Sherlock var et barn.
In other words, the workers are to be divided up into those who can tolerate the dangerous work­places and those who cannot.
Jeg kan ikke gøre det bedre end disse damer har gjort det, jeg vil heller ikke gøre et forsøg derpå.
I do not think it was the kind of thing which Darwin had in mind when he spoke of the survival of the fittest.
Vi har foreslået, at der skal tages forholdsregler, lige så snart blyindholdet enten i blodet eller i urinen nærmer sig faregrænsen.
Since she dealt with the same points as I did, I should like to urge Parliament to give further thought to these matters and vote in favour of my amendments tomorrow.
Må han gerne afbryde Dem et øjeblik? Hr. Sherlock har ordet.
President.
I forbindelse med den nævnte problemstilling bør det først og fremmest undersøges, om der ud fra et arbejdshygiejnisk synspunkt kan kræves ens normer for mænd og kvinder på dette område.
The Danish Council on the Working Environment has discussed the matter and the wage earners' organiza­tions, the LO and the FTF, have called on Denmark to veto this directive if the same low limit values cannot be introduced.
Den skadelige indvirkning på fosteret udvikling kan konstateres på et tidligt tidspunkt.
For this reason, I should like to urge you once more to oppose it.
Hr. formand, jeg har fået en lille forelæsning af min medarbejder, en mand hr..
After all, we must all be in favour of protecting the workers against exposure to illness resulting from work with substances containing lead.
Jeg talte om udvalgets forslag til ændring af artikel 5, der går ud på, at give arbejdstagerne ret til at kræve en supplerende undersøgelse, hvis de mener, det er påkrævet.
Mr Vredeling, Vice-President of the Commission. — (NL) This evening's agenda includes an item concern­ing a first application of the framework directive which is to be used as the basis for a number of direc­tives to be drawn up by the Commission regarding safety and health at the place of work.
Også det forekommer mig at være et rime ligt krav fra udvalgets side, hvis denne ret ikke misbruges. Det er logisk, og dette direktiv må selvfølgelig fortolkes i den nationale lovgivning.
The framework directive has also been formally adopted by the Coun­cil following consultation with the Greek Government.
Artikel 6 taler om grænseværdier; forslaget til ændring vil forbinde denne grænseværdi med den enkelte arbejdstager eller et givet arbejdssted.
The interests of the workers in general are, at the present moment, very much a central issue in Europe and the fact that this is not always the case became apparent to me this week when I had to defend the Commission's proposal regarding the social interests of the workers in the steel industry before the Council of Ministers.
Ændrings forslagene vedrørende dette punkt, der er stillet i Newton Dunn-betænkningen, sigter imod en sådan tilpasning i 1985, men hvis vi i 1982, på grundlag af den undersøgelse, jeg lige har nævnt, kan påvise visse konsekvenser, mener vi, at 1985 er for sent.
One need only look at the so called limit values, i.e. the permissible quantities of lead in the atmosphere at a workplace for which a value of 150 μg/m3air has been proposed, whereas the regulations in force in Denmark stipulate no more than 100 μg/m3.
Hvad det angår er jeg enig med hr. Ghergo.
The same level applies in the USA, and in Japan it is as low as 50 μg.
Måske vil det fremgå af denne undersøgelse, at vi omgående må tilpasse direktivet.
Thus we are permitting a far higher level of lead pollution than the countries with which we are competing.
Nu kommer jeg til et antal, fra politisk synspunkt, interessante ændringsforslag, nemlig en række indbyrdes sammenhængende forslag til ændring af artiklerne 6, 7, 8 og 9, der angår problemet om ensar
The Commission has now submitted the proposal under discussion today, as well as a second proposal to
Jeg vil fraråde Parlamentet at vedtage forslaget.
(The speaker continues in Dutch) the Council regarding asbestos.
Selvfølgelig bør arbejdstagere orienteres om situationen, når der træffes andre foranstaltninger, men denne tanke har vi allerede inkorporeret i rammedirektivet.
Our first directive concerns lead since it is the toxic effects of this sub stance about which most is known.
Parlamentet ved, at jeg er en stor tilhænger af medbestemmelsesret, og at jeg principielt går ind for denne tanke, men jeg tror alligevel, at myndighederne, med deres beskyttende opgave i mente, må have frihed til at tage strengere foranstaltninger eller fastsætte højere grænseværdier end arbejdstagerne måske selv synes er nødvendige.
The toxic effects of lead and lead contamination at the place of work have been known for a long time and we have a more complete understanding of lead and its toxic effects than of any other substance, as Mrs Schleicher has just pointed out.
mænds og kvinders biologiske funktion i betragtning.
This directive concerns the interests of a very large number of workers.
Det gælder for bly, men ikke alene for bly; der er en hel række toksiske agentier, der har samme slags skadelige indvirkning på forplantningssystemet.
Over one million work ers within the European Community come into contact with lead and derived products.