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For bedre at få denne blanding ned har betænkningen ikke medtaget visse former for alkohol, der rejser problemer, men har ønsket at integrere dem i systemet i en næste etape.
In an attempt to make itself more palatable, this report excludes certain alcohols over which there are problems, but with the intention of bringing them into the system at a later stage.
Der er tale om et farligt forslag, hvis eftervirkninger kan blive meget alvorlige i mange regioner.
This is a dangerous proposal which could have very serious repercussions in many regions.
Europa-Parlamentets forhandlinger
Mr Purvis (ED). — On a point of order, Madam President.
Hvem i denne forsamling kender egentlig virkelig noget til disse akter om alkohol?
How many of us in this House are really fully conversant with the issues involved here?
Det er relativt få.
Relatively few.
Formanden. — Hr. Purvis, det var ikke til forret ningsordenen.
President. — Mr Purvis, that is not a point of order.
Cottrell (ED). — (EN) Fru formand, jeg drager ikke formandens visdom i tvivl, men der er en bestemmelse, i forretningsordenen, der gør det muligt for et andet medlem at stille spørgsmål enten under eller efter en tale.
Mr Cottrell (ED). — Madam President, far be it from me to question the wisdom of the Chair, but there is a provision in the Rules of Procedure for another Member to ask a question either during or after a speech.
Det er artikel 64, stk. 4, får jeg at vide af hr. Forth.
It is Rule 64 (4), I am advised by my colleague Mr Forth.
I dette tilfælde bør De bestemt spørge hr. Maffre-Baugé, om han er villig til at besvare spørgsmålet.
Surely on this occasion you should put to Mr Maffre-Baugé the point as to whether he is prepared to answer the question.
Galland (L). — (FR) Til forretningsordenen, fru formand, jeg kan ikke stærkt nok anbefale Dem ikke at følge vore konservative kolleger angående artikel 64, stk. 4, i forretningsordenen i det givne tilfælde, for når der er tale om manglende fri bevægelighed for varer og ikke-overholdelsen af bestemmelserne i Rom-traktaten, er vi hele tiden tvunget til at bruge denne artikel i Parlamentet, hver gang det sker.
Mr Galland (L). — (FR) Madam President, I cannot urge you too strongly not to go along with- our Con servative colleagues' request under Rule 64 (4) of the Rules of Procedure since, on the matter of obstruction of the free movement of goods and failure to comply with the rules of the Treaty of Rome, we would find ourselves invoking this rule every time they speak in this House.
Purvis (ED). — (EN) Fru formand, må jeg så have lov til at stille hr. Maffre-Baugé et spørgsmål i relation til det, han sagde i sin tale?
President. — Mr Purvis may put his question.
For at gøre Kommissionens forslag mindre komplicerede og under fuld hensyntagen til Rådets arbejde har jeg sammen med de franske kommunister stillet en række ændringsforslag.
Along with the French Communists, I have tabled a series of amendments untangling the complexities of the Commission's proposals while at the same time taking account of the Council's contributions.
Jeg vil gerne forklare vor tankegang og vore hensigter.
I should like to explain our thinking and our aims.
For det første anser vi det for nødvendigt at beskytte produktionen af land brugsalkohol inden for Fællesskabet over for konkurrencen fra syntetisk alkohol i de multinationale selskabers hænder.
First of all, we believe that it is necessary to safeguard Community production of agricultural alcohol in the face of com petition from synthetic alcohol, production of which is controlled by the multinationals.
Denne markedsordning for alkohol fremstillet af landbrugsprodukter bør hvile på den fælles landbrugspolitiks grundlæggende principper.
The organization of the market in alcohol of agricultural origin should be based on the fundamental principles of the CAP.
Men for at tage hensyn til sektorens særegenhed kan den tage form af en tvungen samordning af de forskellige nationale markedsordninger, som det i øvrigt er fastsat i artikel 40, stk. 2 b, i traktaten.
However, in order to take account of the specific characteristics of this sector, it could take the form of compulsory coordination of the various national market organizations, which is indeed one of the forms sanctioned by the Treaty, in Article 40 (2) (b).
Denne oprindelige form vil give en tredobbelt fordel: underlægge landbrugsalkoholen et fælles system, fast holde det væsentlige i de nationale markedsordninger, beskytte interesserne i de regioner hvor alkoholproduktionen er af vital betydning.
The advantages of this original form would be threefold : it would bring agricultural alcohol under a common regime, it would retain the essential provisions of national market organizations, and it would safeguard the interests of regions to which alcohol production is vital.
Denne form for markedsordning skulle muliggøre en afsætningsgaranti, til en bestemt pris, for en alkoholmængde svarende til, de forbeholdte sektorer, nemlig konsum, eddikefremstilling men også farmaceutisk anvendelse og kosmetiske produkter.
This form of organization would afford market ing guarantees, at a given price, for the volumes of alcohol corresponding to the reserved sectors, namely not only oral consumption and vinegar making, but also the pharmaceutical industry and the cosmetics
Den gør det desuden muligt at sikre en prisstøtte ved hjælp af en reguleringsordning for priserne på de forskellige former for alkohol og at undgå, at prissvingningerne på verdensmarkedet påvirker landbrugspriserne.
Purvis he said in his speech? Is he satisfied that the taxation levels between French-produced spirituous beverages, such as cognac and so on, and imported spirituous beverages, such as whisky, are fair and equitable?
Endelig vil denne ordning blive fuldstændiggjort ved indførelsen af en mindste pris i forbindelse med handelen på det interne fælles marked.
We shall make our final assessment of the whole report dependent on amendments passed this after noon or tomorrow, and I wish to say that our attitude will be influenced by the European Commission's reaction to the amendments tabled this afternoon or this evening.
Maffre-Baugé (COM). — (FR) Jeg vil blot nævne det beløb, De har modtaget.
Mr Maffre-Baugé (COM). — (FR) I would merely ask the amount of the sum that you received.
Hvis jeg ikke tager fejl, er der tale om 60 mio ECU. Anser De Dem for at være dårligt stillet?
Unless I am mistaken, it was 60 million ECU.
Galland (L). — (FR) Udmærket, bravo!
Mr Galland (L).-(FR)
Afslutningvis vil jeg gerne fremhæve et punkt, som forekommer mig væsentligt: det er nødvendigt at sikre en reelt lige konkurrence mellem de forskellige former for landbrugsalkohol og mellem de alkohol holdige drikkevarer ved en bedre definition af de forskellige kategorier af alkohol og ved en harmoni sering af skatter og afgifter, som pålægges gradueret i overensstemmelse med produkternes kvalitet og under hensyntagen til produktionsomkostningerne.
Mr Eyraud (S). — (FR) The Commission's proposal for the establishment of a common organization of the market in alcohol seems extremely complex to me and to many other colleagues, and this was only to be expected, since the proposal is a fair reflection of the difficulties that the Commission has encountered in its attempt to regulate a sector which straddles farming and industry.
Jeg minder briterne om, at initiativet er hos dem til først og fremmest at harmonisere skatterne på vin og øl.
There is an extremely wide variety both of source of supply and of outlets and it should be pointed out in this connection that the complexity is bound up with the underlying conflicts of interest.
Det er for dem midlet til endelig at bevise en fællesskabsånd, som de ofte mangler.
It is because of these conflicts that work on this matter has been shelved since the end of 1980.
Louwes (L). — (NL) Fru formand, for det første vil jeg i overensstemmelse med Nord-betænkningen oplyse om min personlige situation.
Mr Louwes (L). — (NL) Madam President, first of all I should like to explain my position in line with the Nord report.
Hr. Nord fore lagde i formiddags den betænkning, hvori dette kræves.
Mr Nord's report this morning called for this procedure.
Den er ganske vist endnu ikke vedtaget, men jeg vil alligevel begynde med at opfylde denne parlamentariske forpligtelse. Jeg har ingen direkte økonomiske forbindelser med alkoholindustrien, men som landmand og som ansvarlig for sukkerindustrien i Nederlandene og for alkoholindustrien, sidst som formand for COPAs arbejdsgruppe om alkohol, har jeg at gøre med dette produkt.
Admittedly the report has not yet been adopted but nonetheless I should like to make a start on meeting this procedural requirement.
Afslutningsvis anmoder jeg om henvisning til fornyet udvalgsbehandling i overensstemmelse med artikel 85, stk. 1, og om at afstemning finder sted straks som fastsat i forretningsordenen.
In view of the number of amendments, both on the Commission's proposal for a regulation and on · the rapporteur's motion for a resolution, I for my part have the impression that we are embarking — hastily
Jeg vil begynde med mine komplimenter til hr. Dalsass. Han har skrevet en modig betænkning, som bestemt bærer et liberalt præg.
I should like to start by congratulating Mr Dalsass.
Det vil jeg ikke komme nærmere ind på; jeg vil kort skitsere den nuværende situation på alkoholmarkedet.
I shall not go into that further; I shall briefly describe the situation on the alcohol market.
Der er ikke noget alkoholmarked i Fællesskabet.
There is no alcohol market in the Community.
I den nordvestlige del af Fællesskabet er dette marked frit og baseret på effektivitet; i resten af Fællesskabet er det baseret på arkaiske produktioner og monopoler fra det forrige århundrede. Markedsordning og harmonisering er altså bestemt nødvendig.
In the north-west of the Community this market is free and based on suitability; elsewhere it is based on archaic productions and monopolies from the last century.
Vi er som sagt også glade for Dalsassbetænkningen med dens liberale
We also approve the Dalsass report with its liberal tendencies, as I said.
Purvis (ED). — (EN) Til forretningsordenen, fru formand.
It is based on the cheapest agricultural alcohol, molasses alcohol.
Må jeg stille hr. Maffre-Baugé et spørgsmål i forbindelse med hans tale? Er han overbevist om, at den franske beskatning af cognac og whisky nu også er ret og rimelig?
It rather puts wine alcohol, as a result of surpluses, to one side, without affecting the wine growers' incomes and it brings the reserved sectors more into line with present regulations in legislation on goods so that there are few or no legal objections.
perne. En sådan holdning forekommer os at være en ny udløber i betænkningen af de grundlæggende principper for den fælles landbrugspolitik.
We hold that such an approach would mark a further departure from the fundamental principles of the com mon agricultural policy.
Man løber den risiko, at der i stedet for mængder, der nyder af sætningsgaranti, opstår mængder med »efficiency payments« til fordeling mellem foretagenderne.
The danger is that we shall see the replacement of volumes covered by marketing guarantees by volumes qualifying for 'efficiency pay ments' to be shared out among the distillers.
Desværre er der i landbrugsudvalget, som lægger stor vægt på den ortodokse fælles landbrugspolitik, igen sluppet en række elementer ind, som var afvist af os. Bl.a. optagelsen af alkohol fra overskudsvine.
Unfortunately in the Committee on Agriculture which sticks closely to the orthodoxy of the common agricultural policy a number of elements to which we had objected have found their way in again; including the inclusion of alcohol from surplus wine.
Slut resultatet er, at min gruppe tøver stærkt.
The result is that my group is very hesitant.
Det, vi kunne have ønsket os, er en effektiv beskyttelse af forbrugerne og producenterne gennem kontrol af produktionen, omsætningen og bestemmelsesstedet for de alkoholholdige drikkevarer og gennem regler for definitionen af »bestemmelsessted« for de samme produkter.
We should have preferred effective protection of con sumers and producers, based on control of the production, movement and use of alcohol and spirituous beverages, with regulations governing the definitions of uses of these products.
Der er ikke her tale om en afgift, som man vil kunne pålægge forhandlerne og forbrugerne, men ganske enkelt om en hensigtsmæssig forvaltning, der gør oprettelsen af en ægte markedsordning mulig.
This would not be a matter of imposing burdens on dealers and consumers, but simply of bringing a sound management approach to the problem of setting up genuine organization of the market.
Det er heller ikke et spørgsmål om at acceptere, hvad der for eksempel anbefales i et ændringsforslag fra landbrugsudvalget — nr. 32 — ifølge hvilket beløbet kan gøres afhængigt af den fremstillede alkohols kvalitet — det kunne endda gå — men fremfor alt af destillationsvirksomhedens størrelse. For os er det producentens størrelse, der er vigtig.
Nor can there be any question of accepting such pro posals as that made in one of the Committee on Agriculture's amendments — No 32 — according to which prices would be varied not only on the basis of the quality of the alcohol obtained — we can let that pass — but actually according to the size of the distillery.
Virkeligheden byder os at sige, at denne vinalkohol eksisterer.
The fact of the matter is that this wine alcohol exists.
Man kan ikke ignorere den, uanset i hvilken forordning man optager den.
It cannot be ignored, no matter what regulation it is included in.
En anden over vejelse i min gruppe er, at vi må slippe af med dette problem.
A second consideration in my group is that we must solve this problem.
Det ligger allerede mere end ti år hos Parlamentet, siden 1976 på grundlag af det ændrede forslag, og det er på tide, at vi som Parlament igen spiller bolden over til Ministerrådet, et Ministerråd som i øjeblikket nok synes, det er behageligt, at det ikke behøver at give sig af med dette ømtålelige problem, fordi Parlamentet endnu ikke har givet udtryk for sin mening.
It has been before this House for more than ten years, since 1976, on the basis of an amended proposal, and it is high time for us to hit the ball back into the Council of Ministers' court — a Council of Ministers which at the moment is well pleased that it does not need to bother about this thorny problem since Parliament has not yet delivered an opinion.
Vi vil lade vor endelige holdning til hele betænkningen afhænge af de ændringer, som vil blive forer taget i eftermiddag eller i morgen, og jeg vil gerne fremhæve, at vor holdning også vil afhænge af Kommissionens reaktion på de ændringer, som vil blive foretaget i eftermiddag eller i aften.
I shall end by noting that nowhere in this report is there to be found any reaffirmation of the principles of Community preference and harmonization of taxes and duties on the full range of alcoholic beverages, including wine and beer.
Af alle disse grunde vil vi sandsynligvis stemme mod ændringsforslagene og Dalsassbetænkningen, idet Kommissionens forslag, som sagerne står i øjeblikket, forekommer os bedre at svare til vore forventninger, selv om de ikke tilfredsstiller os.
I should like to remind Mr Hord that when, a year or two ago — two years ago, precisely — we were discussing in Parliarnent whether the whisky sector should be removed from the more general question of alcohol, his group, in the person of Mr Provan, very specifically and publically from the floor of this chamber urged Parliament to decide on whisky, and under took to give his support when the question of alcohol of wine origin was discussed.
Forsyningskanalerne såvel som markederne er yderst forskelligartede, og vi bør i øvrigt ved den lejlighed understrege, at denne indviklethed hænger sammen med den interessekonflikt, som den dækker over.
He now says: 'The wine sector is a surplus producer'. However — and I am sorry about this direct argument — he forgets to say that one of the countries that most contripute to the creation of the surpluses is his own, by applying an absolutely injustifiable level of excise duty.
Det har været årsagen til at behandlingen af sagen har ligget stille siden slutningen af 1980.
He tells me that on this point we are outside the Treaty, but the same rule did not apply then with regard to whisky!
I betragtning af antallet af ændringsforslag såvel til Kommissionens forslag til forordning såvel som til ordførerens beslutningsforslag, har jeg for min part det indryk, at vi i vor hast her er i gang med en helt overflødig opgave.
As I think parliamentarians will know, Mr Dalsager is in Brussels today at a meeting of the Council. I can only say that, in relation to this extremely complicated sub ject, their regret at his absence is as nothing compared to mine!
Alligevel hindrer dette ikke et antal socialistiske medlemmer i meget kraftigt at have opmærksom heden henledt på denne opgave og modsætte sig et nyt forsøg fra frihandelstilhængerne, som under dække af forenkling — ordene »forenklet ordning« udtalte ordføreren for et øbjeblik siden og gjorde det flere gange — går ud på at Parlamentet skal sluge en markedsordning, der kan sammenfattes til en institutionalisering af laissez-faire og laissez-passer princip
As far as the first of those points is concerned, i.e. the reason why I am intervening now, I want to say this. In view of the request that has been made that this matter should go back to committee, it did seem to me that it might be helpful to the House, in deciding whether it should or it shouldn't, if it were now to hear, before voting on that, the Commission's position on the report and indeed on some of the amendments.
Ordføreren har den store fortjeneste, at det er lykkedes ham gennem store vanskeligheder at vække erhvervsgruppernes interesse og gennem et meget tålmodigt og engageret arbejde at forelægge Parlamentet en betænkning, der efter min mening er acceptabel.
The rapporteur has to his credit the great achievement of having succeeded, in the face of great difficulties, in arousing the interest of the trade sectors involved and, through patient, dedicated work, has brought before Parliament a report that, in my view, is acceptable.
Den er måske ikke fuldkommen, det er ikke fordi den kan opnå udelt tilslutning fra alle, men den er det bedste, man kunne opnå i øjeblikket.
It may not be perfect; it cannot hope to meet with agree ment from all sides, but it is the best that could be done at this time.
Det oprindelige forslag var inspireret af monopolistiske principper, der efter min mening er diskutable.
The original proposal was motivated by monopolistic principles that were to my mind ques tionable.
Al landbrugsethanol eller syntetisk ethanol burde nødvendigvis passere gennem interventionsorganerne.
All the ethyl alcohol of agricultural or synthetic origin had of necessity to pass through the inter vention system.
I den nuværende udformning derimod, som ordføreren netop har redegjort for, drejer ordningen sig
First of all I thank the rapporteur, Mr Dalsass, for the initiative that he has taken in this extremely difficult sector.
Ligios kun om produktion af landbrugsethanol, heri natur ligvis indbefattet vinethanol — og jeg er en af dem, der i landbrugsudvalget stemte for, at også ethanol fremstillet af vin skulle tages med i forordningen — idet man gennemer ordningen af den mere indviklede sektor for ethanol, der ikke er fremstillet af land brugsprodukter, til en anden lejlighed.
Richard solution recommended by Mr Dalsass is therefore rightly restricted to the essential provisions, that is to say, it is concerned only with ethyl alcohol of agricultural origin.
lige sektor.
to make a report on it.
Kommissionen har forsøgt at løse dette spørgsmål tre gange, men der er aldrig blevet opnået enighed om Kommissionens forslag i Rådet.
Once it is, however, then I am told, by those who know far more about it than I do, that it would be a step that the Commission could accept.
Jeg vil også tillade mig at rose ham for, at han tillægger den nødvendige forenkling af Kommissionens forslag stor betydning.
Now the significant feature of the report is the grant ing of Community aid for the production of agricultural alcohol that is still regulated by national provisions designed to ensure that the necessary production is, in fact, carried out.
Selv om der ganske vist er forbindelse mellem alkohol og andre sektorer, er årsagen til, at Kommissionens forslag ikke er ført igennem, så afgjort, at de gik ud på at regulere alle sider af en yderst indviklet og kompliceret situation.
The introduction of a common organization of production of agricultural alcohol completes the process of integration of European agriculture in a sector that has been neglected so far, and indeed in a sector where difficulties are now arising that threaten serious damage to the effectiveness of other Community policies, in particular the effective ness of certain intervention measures in the wine sector.
Den løsning, som hr. Dalsass har anbefalet, er derfor helt rigtigt begrænset til de mest væsentlige forholdsregler; den omhandler nemlig kun ethanol fremstillet af landbrugsprodukter.
The introduction of a common organization of the market in agricultural alcohol will therefore com plete the common agricultural policy and above all, the Commission believes make it more effective.
Dette er efter min mening en grundlæggende forud sætning.
Concerning the amendments, the Commission is in favour of those proposed by Mr Dalsass.
Nu giver man ifølge Dalsass-forslaget alkoholsektoren en prisgaranti, en produktions- og en afsætningsgaranti samt tager et vist forbehold i anvendelsessektoren.
On the other hand, we could not follow Mr Martin and Mr Maffre-Baugé who wish to maintain the national market organizations in a coordinated manner.
Det er de grundlæggende principper, der får os til at støtte og anbefale vedtagelsen af denne betænkning.
In fact, up to now the Commission has never proposed that it should be applied in this manner.
Indførelsen af en fælles markedsordning for landbrugsalkohol vil derfor gøre den fælles land brugspolitik fuldstændig og især, tror Kommissionen, gøre den mere effektiv.
Here the Commission is in favour of the reasonable solution, as we see it, which has been advanced by Mr Dalsass concerning supplementary measures both for wine alcohol, especially for its disposal, and also for alcohol based on molasses, which we think ought not to be disturbed by the other alcohols.
Han hævder nu: »vinsektoren er en overskudssektor«, men — jeg beklager denne direkte polemik — han glemmer at sige, at et af de lande, der mest medvirker til at skabe overskud, netop er hans, idet det anvender afgifter, der ligger på et absolut uholdbart niveau.
President. — This proposal by our colleague, Mr Maffre-Baugé, means that I am obliged to put to the vote the question of whether the Dalsass report is to be referred to the committee responsible, which is the Committee on Agriculture.
Det får mig til at sige, at vi her er uden for traktaten, men den samme regel gjaldt ikke dengang, for så vidt angår whisky!
First, however, I shall call on one Member to speak in favour and one to speak against.
Kommissionen kan derfor hilse hovedlinjerne i udvalgets udspil med glæde, så meget mere som en række uomgængelige forsigtigheds regler er indsat.
The Commission can therefore heartily welcome the broad lines of the committee's approach, all the more so since a number of indispensable precautions have been taken.
For det første vil den produktionsmængde, der skal støttes, blive begrænset, og dette skulle forhindre de over skud, som nogle parlamentsmedlemmer i så høj grad synes at frygte.
In the first place, the production volume aided will be limited and this should prevent the surpluses that some Members of Parliament seem to fear so much.
Det skulle derfor beskytte budgettet fra det, vi af erfaring ved ellers ville blive en yderst kostbar aktion.
It should therefore protect the budget from what, as we know from experience, would otherwise become an extremely expensive operation.