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Rådet har fået forelagt en lang række direktiver fra Kommissionen om direkte overvågningsforanstaltninger, også i relation til hr. Provans henvisning til at Kommissionen vel nok kunne give pengene bedre ud.
Let me just remind you that only this morning there were arrested at Bagheria five persons who were active in five cooperatives to which belonged a certain member of the Greco Mafia 'family' of Ciaculli.
Hvorledes vurderer Kommissionen den nuværende rådsformands, hr. Andreottis rolle i den henseende?
The arrests were made in connection with the embezzlement of three billion lire from the EEC which was discovered by the Financial Police.
Burde Kommissionen ikke have direkte kontrolbeføjelser til at foretage undersøgelser på stedet?
President. — (FR) May we have a question, please! No speeches!
Clinton Davis. — (EN) Vedrørende det spørgsmål, hr. Provan rejste, vil jeg slutte mig til ham og komplimentere de medlemmer fra Italien, der var ansvarlige for at rejse dette vigtige spørgsmål.
The Council has before it a whole series of directives for direct monitoring by the Commission, including some connected with Mr Provan's remark that the Commission could find better ways of spending the money.
Jeg mener ikke, at hans kritik af en bestemt medlemsstat er særlig klog, hvis jeg må tillade mig at sige det sådan.
How does the Commission evaluate the role of the present president of the Council, Mr Andreotti, in this connection?
Wijsenbeek (L). — (EN) Jeg tror, der er endnu mere grund til at ønske kommissæren alt godt, nu da han mere eller mindre har lovet at gå løs på mafiaen, for det kan være farligt.
Mrs Castellina (ARC). — (IT) The question is this: Do you not think that, in view of these facts, you should act quickly? If you delay you will not get back the money.
Det tredje spørgsmål er i forlængelse af det, hr. De Pasquale har sagt : Der findes forskellige oplysninger om, at en række af Fællesskabets udgifter ikke ubetinget er gået til de pågældende landmænd, men snarere til mafiaen.
The third question follows on from what Mr De Pasquale said: there are various reports that a whole series of Community payments did not go direct to the farm ers concerned, but to the Mafia.
Var der ikke en særlig forpligtelse, som Kommissionen burde påtage sig til at undersøge, om man ikke kunne anvende pengene mere hensigtsmæssigt end at videregive dem direkte til mafiaen?
Might not the question of whether the monies could be better applied if they were not forwarded to the Mafia, be a specific request for investigation, of which the Commission should take note?
Clinton Davis. — (EN) Det siger sig selv, at Kommissionen er opsat på at undgå uretmæssig manipulation med midler på den påståede måde.
Mr Clinton Davis. — It goes without saying that this Commission is anxious to avoid the wrongful manipulation of funds in the manner which has been alleged.
Derfor ville en hver yderligere bemærkning, som jeg måtte fremsætte om den side af sagen, være overflødig, da jeg allerede har behandlet det ret udførligt.
Therefore, any additional comment that I may make about that aspect of the matter would be otiose because I have already dealt with that at some length.
Spørgsmålet om, hvorledes de skal behandles, er selvfølgelig domstolenes sag.
Clinton Davis the case in Question Time, to decide which of you eight shall speak.
Det må imidlertid være gode nyheder — og det glæder mig at få det at vide af det ærede medlem — at efterforskninger har ført til arrestation netop i formiddag af fem personer, der er anklaget for en forbrydelse, og vi vil med interesse vente og se, hvad der afsløres for domstolene.
tions have led only this morning to the apprehension of five people who are accused of crime, and we shall wait with interest to see what unfolds before the courts of law.
procedurer til at klare spørgsmålet om uretmæssig anvendelse af midler.
As far as I am concerned, that person is Mrs Cinciari Rodano because she was first with her request.
Jeg vil gøre min kollega opmærksom på alle de bemærkninger, der er blevet fremsat i denne spørgetid.
I think it would be very unwise at this moment to change our rules.
Jeg er sikker på, at med hensyn til det italienske formandskab vil Rådets formand blive gjort opmærksom på disse spørgsmål; der vil blive drøftelser med ham vedrørende den uro, som jeg må sige at ikke blot Parlamentet, men også Kommissionen selv har givet udtryk for.
It would mean the end of the orderly conduct of Question Time in the future since if this rule is broken just once, it will of course no longer exist.
Jeg håber, at det ærede medlem vil acceptere det.
I call again therefore Mrs Cinciari Rodano.
Jeg tror ikke rigtig, at jeg kan tilføje noget særligt, hvad angår de andre spørgsmål, kan rejste, for jeg har jo behandlet dette spørgsmål udførligt her i spørgetiden.
There are just two possibilities: either, in accordance with the Rules, you allow questions on a matter of such grave importance, or, in view of its importance, you grant pursuant to Rule 45 a debate after Question Time.
Dalsass (PPE). — (DE) Det passer mig udmærket, at man undersøger sagen til bunds — hvad enten det nu er på Sicilien eller andre steder.
Mr Dalsass (PPE). — (DE) I fully agree that we should get to the bottom of this matter — whether in Sicily or anywhere else.
Man bør straffe og nøje efterforske ethvert bedrageri og straffe personer ne.
Every instance of fraud should be brought to book, precisely investigated and those involved punished.
Nu havde jeg et spørgsmål til Kommissionen.
I should now like to put a question to the Commission.
Hr. De Pasquale har skildret det i sit indlæg, men han tilføjede også, at Democrazia Cristiana havde gjort sig medskyldig.
Mr De Pasquale did say that in his speech, but he also added that the Democrazia Cristiana was also guilty.
Jeg hører ikke til dem, men jeg vil gerne spørge Kommissionen, om et parti virkelig har gjort sig medskyldig her.
I am not a member of that party, but I should like to ask the Commission, whether guilt really attaches to one political party.
Jeg mener, at den bør ud forske sagen og ikke blot hvad angår Democrazia Cristiana, men også de andre partier, idet der overalt findes bedragere, der tilhører det ene eller andet parti.
I think the Com mission should investigate the matter, not just as regards the Democrazia Cristiana, but also other parties, because there are deceivers everywhere, who are members of one party or another.
Men man kan ikke generelt gøre et parti ansvarligt for denne sag.
But one cannot make a blanket statement and make one party responsible for this affair.
Dette skal afgøres under efterforskningen, der skal gå rigtigt til og, håber jeg, hurtigt.
We have asked for it, but if you refuse, then please at least allow, in accordance with the Rules, all the Members who want to put a question to the Commission on this important subject to do so.
Castellina (ARC). — (IT) Jeg beder kommissæren undskylde, at vi insisterer, men måske er vi lidt mere foruroliget end Kommissionen over manifiaens be dragerier.
Mr Clinton Davis. — There is, of course, a very real danger — and that is why I alluded to it earlier — of suggesting that particular individuals are guilty of crime before the investigations have been concluded — and most particularly before court proceedings have been concluded.
Jeg forstår dens ønske om først at handle, når domstolene præcist har fastslået, hvem der har ansvaret for dette bedrageri; men hvis Fællesskabet virkelig har i sinde at genopkræve de beløb, som uretmæssigt er betalt, tror jeg, det er påkrævet at handle hurtigt.
I do not think that it would be profitable therefore to enter into speculation as to which individuals, as to whether in fact any political groups or groupings are concerned with this criminal ity.
Formanden. — De bedes venligst formulere Deres spørgsmål!
This is a matter for the investigation, which must take its proper and, I hope, expeditious course.
Formanden. — Mine damer og herrer, der er endnu optegnet otte italienske medlemmer af gruppen af kommunister og beslægtede på min liste.
President. — Ladies and gentlemen, there are still eight Members of the Italian Communist Group on my list of speakers.
Efter vore regler kan jeg kun give ordet til ét af dem. Den første, der meldte sig, er fru Cinciari Rodano, som jeg nu vil give ordet, medmindre hun selv afstår til fordel for en af sine kolleger.
Under our Rules I may call only one of the eight.
Jeg for mit vedkommende giver or det til fru Cinciari Rodano.
I shall therefore go ahead and call Mrs Cinciari Rodano.
Castellina (ARC). - (IT) Spørgsmålet er følgende: Tror De ikke, at det på baggrund af disse kendsgerninger er nødvendigt at handle omgående?
The Commissioner has thus consistently answered all the questions, even where some questions were practically identical, he very patiently varied his answers.
De Pasquale (COM). - (IT) Hr. formand, i hvilken artikel i forretningsordenen står det skrevet, at et medlem ikke kan stille et spørgsmål?
Mr De Pasquale (COM). — (IT) Mr President, where does it say in the Rules of Procedure that a Member may not put a question?
Det findes ikke : alle medlemmer har ret til at stille et spørgsmål!
There is no such rule: all the Members can ask questions!
Clinton Davis. — (EN) Jeg håber ikke, at jeg har ladet ligegyldighed skinne igennem Hvis det er tilfældet, beder jeg om undskyldning, da det bestemt ikke var min hensigt.
President. — Mr De Pasquale, I would remind you that for some years now in this Parliament, although it is not laid down in the Rules, it has been the invariable practice that in the case of supplementary questions not more than one Member per group of the same nationality may put a supplementary question.
Kommissionen er lige så foruroliget over denne sag som det ærede medlem.
It is a practice which this Parliament has developed to ensure that we get further than just Question 3.
Vi er interesserede i at af sløre uredelighed og kriminalitet, og vi vil gøre alt for at stille dem til regnskab, der er skyldige i kriminali
It is on the basis of this practice that I invite you, as I did a short time ago when various Members of the British Conservative Group asked to speak and as has always been
Formanden. — Hr. De Pasquale, jeg minder om, at vi allerede i nogle år her i Parlamentet, om end det ikke udtrykkeligt står i forretningsordnen, altid har fulgt den regel, at når vi kommer til tillægsspørgsmålene, kan kun ét medlem pr. gruppe af samme nationalitet stille et tillægsspørgsmål.
Mrs Cinciari Rodano (COM). — (IT) Mr President, before putting my question — and I shall have to ask more than one, because these are very grave issues and they have so far received no answer — I want to say that I do not understand why you wish to prevent this House from hearing the Commissioner's answers on questions of very great importance.
Det er ud
Not in the Rules of Procedure!
jeg sige, at jeg ikke forstår, hvorfor De vil forhindre Parlamentet i at høre kommissærens svar på spørgsmål af yderste vigtighed.
(Protestsfrom the right) concerning 974 000 hectolitres of adulterated wine which was sent for distillation to a distillery in Partinico and represents a total value of 29 000 million lire.
I henhold til punkt 4 i Bilag II kan hvert medlem stille et tillægsspørgsmål til hvert spørgsmål — hvert medlem uafhængigt af, hvilken gruppe han tilhører.
What does the Commission intend to do to prevent adulterated wine being sent for distillation and to ensure that the intent of Community regulations is observed?
Jeg giver altså fru Cinciari Rodano ordet.
It was on the basis of that rule that this practice has become established in this Assembly,
Formanden. — Hvis De vil se i bilag II til forretningsordenen, hvor afviklingen af spørgetiden er be skrevet, vil De se, at formanden afgør, om tillægsspørgsmål kan stilles, og kan skal begrænse antallet...
Given that an investigation is now being conducted in Catania by an examining magistrate who has already subpoenaed 44 officials . . .
(Bifald fra midten og fra højre)
(Protestsfrom the right)
De Pasquale (COM). — (IT) De må undskylde mig, hr. formand.
Why, are you on the side of the Mafia, then?
Her foreligger der tò muligheder: enten må De på grundlag af forretningsordenen tilstå os mulighed for at stille spørgsmål om et så vigtigt og alvorligt anliggende, eller også må De på grundlag af artikel 45 tillade en forhandling efter spørgetidens afslutning i betragtning af spørgsmålets betydning.
... of the APAS citrus producers' cooperative, that some officials have been arrested and that charges have been brought against the Christian Democratic M.P., Salvatore Urso, we should like to know what the Commission proposes to do in this case to safe guard the Community's money.
en praksis der sikrer alles frihed.
a practice intended to ensure the freedom of all.
Man må ikke beklage sig, hvis bestemmelsen lejlighedsvis går en imod.
One must not complain if, just occasionally, this rule works against you.
Formålet med bestemmelsen er at beskytte alle og give alle lejlighed til at udtale sig.
This rule is meant to protect you all and to give everyone a chance to speak.
Hvert af spørgsmå lene er der visse politiske grupper eller bestemte na tionaliteter, som er særlig interesserede i. Hvis vi til lader, at et enkelt spørgsmål hver gang beslaglægges äf denne eller hin gruppe eller denne eller hin nationalitet, eller af alle fra en gruppe eller et land, så er det nat med spørgetiden.
On any given question different political groups or nationalities have a particular interest.
På grundlag af forretningsordenen afhænger det af Dem, og kun af Dem, om en sådan forhandling skal tilstås i medfør af artikel 45. Vi har anmodet om det, men hvis De ikke tilladet det, må De i det mindste tillade, at alle de medlem mer, der har et spørgsmål at stille til Kommissionen om dette betydningsfulde emne, får mulighed for at gøre det.
Mr Clinton Davis. — I think that the honourable lady has made the point that she wants to make.
For fjerde og sidste gang opfordrer jeg Dem til at stil le Deres spørgsmål til Kommissionen.
(Interruption by Mr De Pasquale: 'When and where?)
Cinciari Rodano (COM). - (IT) Hr. formand, jeg skal stille mit spørgsmål, men tillad mig først at gøre opmærksom på, at der i bilag II til forretningsordenen står...
Mrs Cinciari Rodano (COM). — (IT) Mr President, I shall put my question, but allow me first to point out that in Annex II to the Rules of Procedure it is stated
(Protester fra midten og fra højre)
(Protestsfrom the centre and right)
at formanden afgør, om tillægsspørgsmål kan stilles, altså afgør, om spørgsmålene er relevante.
. . . that the President shall rule on the admissibility of supplementary questions, i.e. that he shall decide whether a question is relevant.
Nu har De allerede tilladt spørgsmål, hvis relevans er så som så; men for at bedømme det, måtte De i det mindste på forhånd kende det spørgsmål, som kollegaen agter at stille. Det står ingen steder, at fordi en kollega tilhører en bestemt gruppe, har han mindre ret end en kollega fra en anden gruppe. Tro mig, hr. formand, dette problem er meget delikat.
Well now, you have already admitted some questions whose bearing on the main subject was not absolute, but to give a ruling you should at least first find out what is the question that our colleague wants to put.
Jeg vil ikke her bruge store ord, men i mit land ville en holdning som Deres blive anset for meget alvorlig, netop i betragtning af det emne, vi behandler.
I don't want to say anything offensive, but in my country a very serious view would be taken of your attitude — precisely because of the sub ject we are discussing.
Få mig ikke til at sige mere.
Please don't make me say more.
Cinciari Rodano (COM). — (IT) Hr. formand, før jeg stiller mit spørgsmål — og jeg må formulere mere end ét på dette punkt, fordi der er meget alvorlige spørgsmål, som endnu ikke er blevet besvaret — vil
If we do speak, therefore, it is not for our pleasure, much less for the purpose of disrupting the Assembly's proceedings, but because we want a political debate on this topic and because we want to know what is happening to the money of our and, with respect, also your constituents. tuents.
Nu kommer jeg til spørgsmålet : kommissæren erklærede, at Kommissionen er rede til at samarbejde med domstolene.
I am now asking: if the Commission does not even know how much is being spent, then first, how does it manage to control and check it and, secondly, how does it propose to cooperate with the magistrature?
Som svar på en forespørgsel af De Pas-
The Public Prosecutor in Palermo has brought charges against certain persons
Cinciari Rodano gør det, er det ikke for morskabs skyld og endnu mindre for at gribe forstyrrende ind i Parlamentets arbejde, men for at føre en politisk forhandling om dette emne og også — med Deres tilladelse — for at få at vide, hvad der bliver af Deres og vore vælgeres penge.
85 simply not possible for the Commission to propose an increase in the level of aid for the elderly compared with 1984. The figure proposed for this year remains therefore at the modest level of 60 0C0 ECU, a figure which should, however, be judged in relation to the fact that five years ago there was no financial provision at all.
Men når den ikke engang ved, hvad der gives ud, ville jeg gerne vide : for det første hvordan den bærer sig ad med at kontrollere, og for det andet hvordan den har tænkt sig at kunne samarbejde med domstolene?
If I have applied the Rules of Procedure and the customs that have been established on the basis of these Rules, it is with a view to protecting this Assembly and its Members and in order to do my duty.
Hr. formand, jeg håber, De vil give mig svar på disse spørgsmål, og jeg tror, det vil være ret let for en for mand for Parlamentet at besvare dem.
It is not possible for Question Time to be used for any other purpose than to pose questions and receive answers.
Andet spørgsmål: den offentlige anklager i Palermo har krævet fornyet dom over nogle personer på grund af 974 000 hektoliter forfalsket vin sendt til destillation i et destillationsanlæg i Partinico til en samlet sum af 29 milliarder lire.
It was for this reason that the Rules established Question Time, and you cannot criticize the Chair for conforming exactly to the Rule's require ments.
Hvad agter Kommissionen at gøre for at forhindre, at den forfalskede vin sendes til destillation og for at håndhæve hensigten med fæl lesskabsforordningerne ?
On the contrary, you might reproach me with having been a little lax in accepting questions which were more like speeches.
Eftersom der i Catania er en undersøgelse i gang foretaget af forhørsdommeren, som allerede har udtaget 44 stævninger...
I did so because I know that feelings run high; I also know, as you have just pointed out, that there are serious risks for those who raise this kind of question and that is why I have been more flexible than the Rules permit.
Formanden. — Jeg skal svare på Deres indlæg til for retningsordenen.
The Commission nevertheless remains willing to reinforce its commit ment and its efforts in this field.
Når jeg anvender forretningsordenen og den praksis, der er knæsat på grundlag af forretningsordenen, er det for at beskytte forsamlingen og dens medlemmer og gøre min pligt.
For the moment we need to look at non-financial options such as the promotion of research which could lead to an improvement in the living conditions of the elderly.
Det går ikke an, at spørgetiden anvendes til andre formål end at stille spørgsmål og modtage svar.
A first step in this direction has, I think, already been taken.
Derfor har man i forretningsordenen skabt spørgetiden, og De kan ikke kritisere formanden for at holde sig nøje til forretningsordenens krav.
The next four-year programme of the European Foundation for the Improvement of Living and Working Conditions includes a number of items related to the living conditions of the elderly, and I believe that this programme will be adopted towards the end of this month.
Tværtimod kunne De måske be brejde mig for at have været lidt for smidig ved at tillade spørgsmål, der nærmest var taler.
It is to be hoped that the research can contribute to the welfare of the elderly, which is the issue raised by the honourable Member.
Jeg vil absolut ikke tillade, at spørgetiden her i salen laves om til noget andet.
I am absolutely against Question Time being turned into anything else.
Jeg tror, at alle medlemmer må erkende, fru Squarcialupi, at de forskellige meninger, der er repræsenteret her, har kunnet komme til udtryk, og at kommissæren har svaret.
I think that all Members, Madam, must recognize that all the various strands of opinion represented here have had their say, that the Commissioner has given answers.
Når jeg lytter til alt dette, har jeg i øvrigt en helt klar fornemmelse af, at det ikke er sidste gang, dette spørgsmål er blevet rejst her i salen.
After all this, I have the very distinct impression that this will not be the last time this subject is raised here.
Spørgsmål nr. 5 af Lemass (H-297/84):
Question No 5 by Mrs Lemass (H-297/84):
Om: De ældre og EFs budget
Subject: The elderly and the EEC's budget
Under en nylig debat i Europa-Parlamentet om Kommissionens aktiviteter for ældre erklærede kommissæren for beskæftigelse og sociale anliggender, at han var villig til at intensivere bestræbelserne på at forbedre livskvaliteten for ældre.
Mrs Lemass (RDE). — I welcome this opportunity to extend to the new Commissioner, Mr Sutherland, every good wish in his new position, as he is from my own country, Ireland. I am very glad to see him in the position and wish him very well indeed.
Vil Kommissionen oplyse, hvorfor der i Kommissionens bud getforslag for 1985 ikke er sket en forhøjelse af hjælpen til ældre i forhold til 1984?
Will the Commission now state why in the Com mission's draft budget for 1985 he sought no increase on the level of aid for the elderly com pared with 1984?
Sutherland, medlem af Kommissionen. — (EN) Jeg vil gerne starte med àt understrege, at det er en ære for mig at tale i Parlamentet for første gang, og jeg vil også takke fru Lemass for at rejse et spørgsmål, der er af væsentlig betydning.
Mr Sutherland, Member of the Commission. — I would like to commence by stressing the honour that it is for me to address this Parliament for the first time and also to thank Mrs Lemass for raising an issue which is of considerable importance.
Jeg vil gerne spørge, om De ønsker, at denne forsamling skal give afkald på sine politiske kontrolbeføjelser og forhandlingsret og således over lade denne debat alene til pressen. Aviserne i Deres lande, kære kolleger, er fulde af meddelelser om mafiaen.
I would like to expand that a little bit if I may. Would the Commission agree that the problems of Europe's elderly population have considerable implications for all the Member States, in view of the fact that in the last two decades there has been a dramatic increase in the number of old people living alone in city centres and isolated rural areas and that they have become extremely vulnerable to brutal and savage attacks, some of which have actually claimed lives?
Hvorfor skal vi så give afkald på en politisk debat? Vi er ikke bange for den.
I am particularly concerned about the situation in my own country, Ireland, of which the Commissioner will be very well aware.
Jeg bør forudskikke den bemærkning, at min frem trædende forgænger faktisk ikke gav noget tilsagn om at forhøje hjælpen til ældre i budgetforslaget for 1985.
I should preface my reply by saying that my distinguished predecessor actually made no commitment to increase in the draft budget for 1985 the level of aid for the elderly.
For klarhedens skyld vil jeg gerne påpege det allerede i starten, fordi der ud fra én fortolkning af spørgsmå-
For the sake of clarity I would wish to point that out at the outset, because on one interpretation of the question it could be suggested that that implication is to be seen from it.
Sutherland let kunne tyde på, at den slutning kunne udledes af det.
Debates of the European Parliament