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I forbindelse med en diskussion af muligheden for en generel amnesti nævner hr. Balfe »de angrendes lov« og det forhold, at præsident Evren nedlagde veto imod den, hvilket er rigtigt.
Mr Balfe refers also to the trials of members of the Turkish Peace Association and of the DISK Trade Union Confederation — trials which we must all deplore.
Men han glemmer at nævne, at loven i overensstemmelse med forfatningen blev sendt tilbage til den store nationalforsamling, som vedtog den.
However, he might have mentioned at least that 11 of the 23 Turkish Peace Association members, including their president, Mahmoud Dikerdem, have been released from prison pending a verdict.
Det er utvivlsomt endnu en tilfældig forglemmelse.
Another chance omission, doubtless, Mr President.
Ja, han blev arresteret, men han er ikke blevet holdt isoleret, og han blev løsladt efter fire dages forløb.
Mr President, it is time we made a sensible gesture and offered our Turkish friends all the help we can give.
Det omtales ikke.
It is better to talk than to sulk.
Endnu en tilfældig forglemmelse.
We believe in my group that it is time to resume the dialogue.
Jeg er bange for, at Balfebetænkningen på en række afgørende punkter ikke lever op til dette objektivitetskriterium.
Mr Wurtz (COM). — (FR) Mr President, it is not without reason that the Assembly is today discussing relations with Turkey.
Det alvorligste eksempel herpå er forsøget på antydningsvis — fra punkt A„ hvor man går tilbage til september 1980, den måned hvor det militære kup fandt sted — at give den nuværende civile regering skylden for begivenheder, der fandt sted, før den kom til magten.
Not only does that country have a close association with the Community by virtue of a treaty, Turkey has also on several occasions — and once again, recently, through its Prime Minister — made application for admission to the Community.
Lad os huske på, at den kun har siddet siden november 1983.
It is therefore perfectly legitimate for our Assembly to concern itself with the state of human rights in Turkey.
Men alligevel giver hr. Balfe den ene gang efter den anden denne regering skylden for alt, hvad der er sket siden 1980, og for en hel del af, hvad der skete før den tid, særlig for for hold der har rod i den gamle tyrkiske straffelov.
In the most recent period, that situation has not improved — far from it — a'nd the rapporteur, in his very full report, provides us with evidence of that.
Hr Balfe omtaler også retssagerne mod medlemmerne af den tyrkiske fredsförening og den faglige landsorganisation DISK — retssager som vi alle må beklage.
I could go on for some time on this subject of inaccuracies and, I am afraid, outrageous selectivity. — I am sorry, chance omissions. I will mention only one more.
Men han kunne i det mindste godt have nævnt, at 11 ud af de 23 medlemmer af den tyrkiske fredsförening, inklusive formanden Mahmoud Dikerdem, er blevet løsladt, indtil der falder dom.
Nowhere in the report do I find any mention of the fact that in the two years since the return to civilian government in Turkey, between 100 and 150 members of the security forces have been tried and convicted for ill-treatment of prisoners.
Endnu en tilfældig for glemmelse, hr. formand.
Is this the mark of a government that encourages torture?
Men han glemmer at nævne, at alt deres materiale vedrører perioden fra den 12. september 1980 til den 1. juli 1982, dvs. perioden med militærdiktatur forud for den nuværende regerings tiltrædelse.
Let us not forget that in the last year of the old constitution, before the military coup — and this was the situation to which Mr Lemmer has drawn attention — 2 000 innocent people were gunned down in the streets by terrorists of the extreme left and the extreme right.
Jeg formoder, at det er en tilfældig forglemmelse, hr. formand.
There was no right to life then, Mr President.
Så siger hr. Balfe i sin begrundelse, at der har fundet 50 henrettelser sted siden kuppet.
A large delegation from progressive and trade-union groups in Turkey, whom I welcome to our Chamber, has more or less confirmed these findings.
Det har det nok, skønt der ikke er nogen officielle tal.
They have told us that their parties are banned.
Men han glemmer at sige, at siden landets tilbagevenden til civilt styre for næsten to år siden er kun to dødsstraf fe blevet fuldbyrdet.
The unions, democratic associations, the Peace Committee, women's and young people's democratic organizations are proscribed.
Igen en tilfældig forglemmelse, hr. formand!
More than five hundred people are in prison under sentence of death.
Jeg kunne fortsætte i nogen tid med at tale om unøjagtigheder, og hvad jeg vist desvære må kalde grov ensidighed — undskyld: tilfældige forglemmelser.
For the first time in many years we have in Turkey a government committed to eradicating abuses of human rights and restoring fundamental freedoms. Of course, it has a long way to go.
Men jeg vil kun nævne endnu en.
However, that is not its fault.
Er det sådan, en regering handler, hvis den opmuntrer til tortur?
At last we have a Turkish government determined to bring light into the dark corners.
Noget lignende er faktisk aldrig tidligere sket i det moderne tyrkiets historie. Det skete naturligvis ikke under militærdiktaturet, men det skete heller ikke under hr. Demirels og hr. Ecevits regeringer.
We rightly maintain a dialogue with all kinds of dubious regimes.
Lad os ikke glemme, at i det sidste år under den gamle forfatning — og det var den situation, hr. Lemmer henledte opmærksomheden på — blev 2 000 uskyldige mennesker skudt ned på gaden af terrorister fra det yderste venstre og det yderste højre.
We talk to and give aid to one or two African regimes whose violations of human rights — I am thinking of Uganda in particular — are beyond human imagination. Should we refuse even to talk to a major ally and a firm friend
Dengang var der ingen ret til livet, hr. formand.
Furthermore, there are 12 million Kurds in Turkey.
For første gang i mange år har vi Tyrkiet en regering, der er fast besluttet på at udrydde overgreb mod menneskerettighederne og genindføre fundamentale friheder.
We all hope that the suspicions and animosity will shortly be replaced by peaceful cooperation, and we believe that the accession of Greece to the Community and Turkey's special relationship with it will play a part in fostering better relations.
hvis tilstedeværelse på tilskuerpladserne jeg glæder mig over. »Vore partier er forbudt«, erklærer de. »I tusindvis af mennesker anholdes, forfølges og tortureres, fordi de mistænkes for at tilhøre vore partier«.
In view of the gravity of the situation, the Member States, the Council or the Commission seem to have agreed to support the Turkish Government at any price, on the financial level as well.
Masseprocesserne fortsættes, ja udvides endog. Der sidder fremdeles næsten et hundrede dødsdømte i fængslerne.
In response to a letter which I sent to Mr Roland Dumas, the French Minister for Foreign Affairs, the latter replied in June of this year that there had been a move towards democratization.
Den tyrkiske indenrigsminister har netop over for den tyrkiske presse ind rømmet, at der i de sidste tre måneder i landets østlige del er omkommet 108 mennesker.
France had to take note of that and did not intend to oppose the release of loans granted to Turkey by the European Community.
Endvidere lever der tolv millioner kurder i Tyrkiet.
Secondly, we, the Liberals, think — as the rapporteur has also said — that there has been marked progress in reestablishing respect for human rights in Turkey.
Styrets forfatning forbyder disse mennesker at tale deres eget sprog.
There has been a marked improvement in the situation since the military coup on 12 September 1980.
Over for denne alvorlige situation ser det ud til, at medlemsstaterne, Rådet og Kommissionen er enedes om at støtte den tyrkiske regering — koste hvad det vil, også på finansielt plan.
To cite just a few examples, remember Cambodia, the boat people, Paraguay, Afghanistan: perhaps some of them would like to exchange their oppressors for Mr Ozal's government — and we are saying nothing about countries in which the absence of freedom of movement makes it impossible to know what really goes on.
De deler utvivlsomt den vurdering, der blev udtrykt i de franske arbejdsgiveres blad, La viefrançaise, der frejdigt skrev: »Tyrkiet er hovedhjørnestenen i Vestens foranstaltninger, og derfor er det vigtigt, at det er stabilt«.
It is not just in Turkey that there is no respect for human rights: the same is true of the East more than the West, and one cannot talk about proscribed parties, because in some places only one list is allowed at each election.
Min gruppe tror ikke på den barnagtige skik at fryse sine venner ude.
The Commission itself has had no hesitation in disregarding the Assembly's refusal and has restored the credits to Turkey to the budget.
Naturligvis er der stadig meget at gøre, men der er ingen tvivl i mit sind om, at den nuværende tyrkiske regering har vist sin faste vilje til at gøre det.
Our Assembly must exert all possible pressure to stop these attacks on human rights, which are organised on such a grand scale in a country three hours' flying time from Strasbourg. bourg.
I de to år, der er gået, siden den kom til magten, har den gjort store fremskridt henimod en overholdelse af de fundamentale menneskerettigheder.
None the less — and perhaps this seems paradoxical, Mr President — we are not in favour of renewing the European Parliament's delegation for relations with Turkey in the form it had before, for the following reasons.
(Bifald fra den europæiske demokratiske gruppe)
That is why our group will vote for the Balfe report.
Wurtz (COM). - (FR) Hr. formand, når Parlamentet i dag forhandler om vore forbindelser med Tyrkiet, er det ikke uden grund.
Mr Wolff (L). — (FR) Mr President, this is an important debate: relations between Turkey and the Community are in fact of special interest to us all.
Kommissionen er heller ikke veget tilbage for at sidde Parlamentets afvisning overhørig og har på bud gettet genopført bevillingerne til Tyrkiet.
First, the genuine importance of our relations and our association agreement with Turkey mean that we have to be more exacting as regards human rights in that country than in some remote uncivilized country with which we do not have close relations.
Derved gi ver Europa det tyrkiske diktatur en mere storslået hjælp, end det yder Lomé- lande som Etiopien, der skal klare sult og underudvikling.
When the military junta was in power in Greece, the European Community criticized the colonels not just because, unfortunately, like so many other regimes, they violated human rights, but also because our close ties with Greece made it impossible to remain indifferent to what was happening in Athens.
Vi kan ikke længere fortsætte ad denne vej !
Today the same argument applies to events in Ankara and Istanbul.
Denne vurdering bekræftes af en omfattende delegation af progressive og fagforenings repræsentanter,
This is especially true of the Mediterranean countries, and of Greece, in particular. We are all aware of the
I den forbindelse kan man kun tilslutte sig ordførerens konklusioner, når han siger, at det under disse omstændigheder ikke er muligt igen at oprette Euro-
Secondly, the recent progress — real, encouraging progress — in Turkey has kept step with the pressure exerted by our Assembly, in particular, and by the institutions of the Community in general.
Måske forekommer det paradoksalt, hr. formand, at vi ikke er velvilligt indstillet til fornyelse af Europa-Parlamentets delegation til det blandede udvalg EØF/Tyrkiet i dens tidligere form, men det har følgende årsager.
In the meantime, all the Member States of the Community should suspend trade relations with Turkey.
pa-Parlamentets delegation til det blandede udvalg EØF-Tyrkiet. Men i særdeleshed kan Parlamentet ikke gå med til, at Rådet og Kommissionen systematisk tilsidesætter de forpligtelser, de har indgået over for os.
If it is claimed that everything is in order, there should be an opportunity to prove it in practice.
Wolff (L). — (FR) Hr. formand, denne forhandling er vigtig, da forbindelserne mellem Tyrkiet og Fælles skabet jo har en ganske særlig interesse for os alle. Der er tre hovedgrunde til, at forhandlingen volder vanskeligheder.
Mr Christiansen (S). — (DA) Mr President, it seems to me that the human rights situation in Turkey under the rule of General Evren since 12 December 1980 is one of the most important questions the European Parliament has on its agenda this week.
For det første indebærer omfanget af vore forbindelser og vor særlige associeringsaftale med Tyrkiet, at vi skal stille større krav til menneskerettighedernes overholdelse i dette land end i et fjernereliggende bar barisk land, som vi ikke plejer snævre forbindelser med. Da militærjuntaen var ved magten i Grækenland, kritiserede Det europæiske Fællesskab ikke blot obersterne, fordi de som beklageligvis mange andre regimer tilsidesatte menneskerettighederne, men også på grund af vore snævre forbindelser med Grækenland, der gjorde, at vi umuligt kunne være ligegyldige over for det, der foregik i Athen.
With this in mind, the Liberal and Demoractic Group will vote to keep the substance of the resolution, but we shall support some amendments which make more allowance for recent progress and also, from this point or view, Mr Klepsch's amendment, which specifies that as long as the EEC — Turkey joint committee does not operate, a delegation for relations with Turkey should be set up to operate within the framework of the European Parliament's normal interparliamentary delegations. And we shall look forward to the day when we shall be able to vote unreservedly and enthusiastically for the restoration of the Joint Committee between the European Parliament and a truly democratic National Assembly.
I dag gælder det samme for det, der foregår i Ankara og Istanbul.
That day has perhaps not yet arrived. It will come, of that we can be sure.
For det første er det ganske indlysende i alle ti — og heldigvis snart tolv — medlemsstaters interesse at opretholde gode forbindelser med en nation med så stort et historisk renommé, så stor aktuel betydning og så store fremtidsmuligheder som Tyrkiet.
What we decide in connection with Mr Balfe's excellent report will certainly have great significance for the future development of Turkey and of the relationship between Turkey and Western Europe.
For det andet er de nylige og virkelig opmuntrende fremskridt i Tyrkiet foregået side om side med det af Parlamentet i særdeleshed og af Fællesskabets institutioner i almindelighed udøvede pres.
I see the significance of our decisions not least in the light of the many strenuous efforts made by the military regime in Turkey and other official institutions, such as the government, parliament and the diplomatic service, to reach a compromise with the Western democracies.
Fordi vi valgte en kritisk holdning, og fordi vor kritik blev modereret af sans for proportionerne, kunne vi ikke blot lindre situationen for de undertrykte, men også konstatere at vi øvede indflydelse på undertrykkerne. kerne.
But it should not be made so easy for those politically responsible in a State which, while seeking to be recognized as part of the European family, deliberately disregards and violates the most fundamental principles of political and civil, democratic and human rights.
Det gælder i særdeleshed for middelhavslandene og da ganske særligt for Grækenland.
Human rights must be defended everywhere, and we must courageously denounce anyone, whoever they may be, who does not respect them.
Vi er bekendt med de problemer, der består mellem grækerne og deres naboer.
We must not support those who attack or defend according to their political colour.
For det andet har vi liberale — ligesom ordføreren — konstateret, at det går væsentligt bedre med overholdelsen af menneskerettighederne.
There have been plenty of changes in Turkey in the last few years, but in my opinion not nearly enough for us in this Assembly to recognize the military regime of General Evren.
Siden militærkuppet den 12. september 1980 er der sket en mærkbar bedring af situationen.
Regrettably, it appears, too, that Prime Minister Özal has a very lukewarm attitude on the human rights question.
Der er færre politiske fanger, de behandles mere humant, og den politiske debat er mere åben.
He seems inclined to leave it to the parliament, Turkey's Grand National Assembly.
Vi liberale erkender endvidere, hr. for mand, at militærregimets rædselsgerninger for en stor del er en reaktion på de forbrydelser, som det tyrkiske folk var udsat for af infame og morderiske fanatikere blandt venstre- eller højreekstremisterne , og på den af dem iværksatte terror.
But even the Assembly, its so-called prisons committee, for example, seems to have given up in the effort, for example, to limit the use of torture and to check irregularities in legal proceedings.
Det er i denne ånd, at den liberale og demokratiske gruppe i morgen stemmer for hovedindholdet i be slutningsforslaget, idet vi dog vil støtte en række ændringsforslag, der i højere grad anerkender de nylig gjorte fremskridt, og i dette perspektiv også hr. Klepschs ændringsforslag, der siger, at der, så længe det blandede udvalg EØF/Tyrkiet ikke fungerer, skal nedsættes en delegation for forbindelserne med Tyrkiet som led i Europa-Parlamentets normale interparlamentariske delegationer.
Mr Staes (ARC). — (NL) Mr President, despite the fine words used by the present Turkish Government and various Members of this Parliament, who found everything to be in order after a so-called inquiry in Turkey, there is no doubt at all that human rights are still being trampled under foot in Turkey in a way this Parliament and Community cannot accept if they intend to be consistent in their views on democracy and human rights.
Og så afventer vi den dag, da vi uden forbehold og med glæde kan stemme for en fornyelse af det blandede udvalg for Europa-Parlamentet og en virkelig demokratisk nationalforsamling.
We might have wished that the conditions were present today for a debate on a normalization of relations with Turkey, it would also have been to the advantage of the thousands of political prisoners in the Turkish gaols and of those who daily run the risk of arrest and torture.
Den dag er endnu ikke kommet, men vi er over bevist om, at den kommer.
But it is unfortunately not the case that the conditions for a normalization of relations are present, and the responsibility for this rests solely with the Generals.
For det tredje ved vi liberale kun alt for godt, at menneskerettighederne — som dagens forhandling om fru van den Heuvels betænkning har mindet os alle om — stadig krænkes i endnu højere grad i andre lande end Tyrkiet.
The report published by Amnesty International in July of this year — I have it here in my hand — was also unequivocal and convincing on that point, as are the reports of the Council of Europe itself.
Man må ikke støtte dem, der automatiske forsvarer eller angriber, alt efter politisk farve.
In this connection I should like to express my hope that the efforts, which we know are in progress, to persuade Denmark, France, Sweden, the Netherlands and Norway to abandon their action against Turkey in the European Court of Human Rights will not succeed.
Menneskerettighederne er en ukrænkelig ret, og Euro pa-Parlamentet skal optræde samme måde, hver ene ste gang denne ret drages i tvivl. Det vil tjene Parlamentet til ære.
I should like to take this opportunity to object to and condemn the Commission's internal transfers of appropriations in 1984 to provide increased economic
For blot at nævne nogle eksempler, så lad os tænke på Cambodja, boatpeople, paraguayanerne og afghanerne; måske er der nogle af dem der ville ønske at bytte deres undertrykkere mod hr. Özals regering — og så taler vi endda slet ikke om de lande, hvor man gel på enhver form for fri bevægelighed gør det helt umuligt at finde ud af, hvad der foregår.
If they say everything is perfect in Turkey, I assume they will have no objection to the immediate setting up of a committee of inquiry with direct access at all times and without prior notice to all places in Turkey where people are held in detention.
Det er ikke kun i Tyrkiet, menneskerettighederne krænkes; det foregår i højere grad i øst end i vest, og så længe der i visse lande kun findes én valgliste, kan man ikke tale om forbudte partier.
A committee of this kind would have to include representatives of non-governmental organizations fighting for democracy and human rights in Turkey as well as Members of the European Parliament.
fra denne forsamling bør kunne udtale nogen anerkendelse af general Evrens militærstyre. Beklageligvis synes det også, som om premierminister Özal tager meget valent på det menneskeretlige område.
aid to Turkey by way of the so-called third financial protocol, despite the rejection of this increase in the appropriation by both the Council and Parliament.
Men også denne forsamling, bl.a. ved det såkaldte fængelsudvalg, sy nes at have givet op over for begrænsningerne i bl.a. anvendelse af tortur og tilfældigheder i retsprocesserne. ne.
It is, moreover, a violation of the budgetary principles, and it must have consequences when we come to debate the Community's financial operations for 1984.
Amnesty Internationals rapport fra juli i år, som jeg har her i hånden, var også på dette punkt utvetydig og overbevisende ligesom beretningerne fra Europa rådet.
The main argument I grew tired of hearing while exiled from my homeland for seven years was then — and still is — that we ought not to place a dictatorship — especially a long-lasting one — in isolation, in quarantine, because there would then be no way of monitoring the situation, giving guidance, exerting pressure towards liberalization, but that on the con trary we would be pushing it to become worse.
Jeg er selvfølgelig tilbøjelig til at fæste større lid til i sagen uafhængige og professionelle instanser end til enkelte parlamentsmedlemmer på rundrejse i Tyrkiet eller især til den berørte part, nemlig den tyrkiske regering.
On the other hand, if we shut our eyes to contraventions of human rights, to tyranical government and even to crimes, we may little by little be able to bring it to its senses, and persuade it to change into some form of democracy.
Det ville givet have været at ønske, at der havde været betingelser til stede i dag for at drøfte en nor malisering af forholdet til Tyrkiet.
I think that, as has been proposed in the report before us on the human rights situation in Turkey, we should stand by the resolutions the European Parliament has adopted since 1980.
Jeg må også tage afstand fra metoden med guleroden og stokken.
This is not a question of figures going up or down.
Når den fastslår, at luften i realiteten er ren nu i Tyrkiet, så går jeg ud fra som en selvfølge, at man ikke vil have noget besvær med straks at nedsætte et undersøgelsesudvalg, som til enhver tid og uden var sel omgående får adgang til alle de steder i Tyrkiet, hvor mennesker holdes fængslet.
This, let me say, hypocritical argument is unfortunately repeated word for word in our own democratic Parliament, despite the fact that history cannot point to a single example of a dictatorship that voluntarily relinquished power thanks to the friendly admonitions of its democratic neighbours.
Et sådant udvalg skulle så bl.a. bestå af medlemmer af de ikke-statslige organisationer, som kæmper for demokratiet og men neskerettighederne i Tyrkiet, og af medlemmer af Europa-Parlamentet.
The appeal of such arguments always conceals the desire of various countries, whether of the Western democratic or the Eastern totalitarian type, to form closer economic, commercial or military links with the dictatorships, which manage to survive precisely because they show a barbaric disregard for freedom, legality and order.