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Purvis (ED). — (EN) Til forretningsordenen, hr. formand.
Mr Hord (ED). — Mr President, time does not permit me to respond fully to Mr Friih's remarks.
Kommissionens seneste ændrede forordning — og hr. Dalsass' oprindelige arbejdsdokument — viste i det mindste en større forståelse for disse problemer, men landbrugsudvalget har tilsidesat hr. Dalsass og Kommissionen ved at tage vin med igen. De vil sikkert, hr. kommissær, under indtryk af Deres nylige vinforordning oplyse os om, at ændringsforslag, som atter medtager vin, ikke vil kunne accepteres af Dem?
Whilst I respect the work that Mr Dalsass has been doing on the Commission's proposals for the Committee on Agriculture, all he has done is to exacerbate the cost to the Community by proposing the molasses price instead of the grain alcohol price which will cost the Community more, and also the proposals by him now include once again wine alcohol, of which there is an excess and which is expensive to boot.
Det er nødvendigt, at man udviser forsigtighed og er meget opmærksom på, at der er et konkurrenceforhold mellem de to former for alkohol. Jeg tror, at det nærmest var det, som hr. Purvis var interesseret i.
Ever since the Treaties came into being, there has been a dispute over whether alcohol comes under the agricultural policy.
Jeg minder Dem om, at der i eftermiddag kl. 18 vil finde en afstemning sted om tilbagevisning af Dalsassbetænkninen til det kompetente udvalg. I tilfælde af at forsamlingen afviser forslaget om tilbagevisning til udvalg, vil Dalsassbetænkningen blive sat under afstemning i eftermiddag kl. 18.00.
Hord consider, as the Committee on Budgets concluded, that we do not need an alcohol regime and I believe that it should be left to those Member States involving themselves in what is an industrial process of producing alcohol to agree a set of regulations which is fair and in accordance with the provisions of the Treaty in terms of fair competition between one Member State and another.
Det tror jeg mere er på længere sigt.
On that basis, Mr President, I would like to say more.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er interimsbetænkning (dok.
Mr M. Martin (COM). — (FR) Mr President, my dear colleagues, it is true that regulation of the market in alcohol is necessary in order to rectify the present lack of organization.
1-1327/82) af Maher for land brugsudvalget om indkomstniveauet i landbruget.
However, divergences of interests between Member States prevented their adoption.
Fællesskab i de forløbne år havde gjort større frem skridt med hensyn til at opnå økonomisk og monetær union, stod jeg ikke her i dag for at forelægge denne betænkning.
The Dalsass report, with all its numerous amendments, as I have just been saying, only makes the situation worse, more complicated and more contradictory.
Det er den fundamentale grund til, at denne betænkning blev nødvendig.
First we have the reserve sectors in.
Det er vigtigt af en anden grund, hr. formand.
Now Mr Dalsass thinks they should come out.
Politikken er udsat for kraftige angreb fra mange sider.
First we have molasses alcohol in. Then he thinks it should come out.
Mange er utilfredse med den.
First we have wine alcohol in.
Faktisk, hr. formand, drejer en anden vigtig del af min betænkning sig om at prøve at sikre, at der udføres mere effektiv forskning og bruges bedre målemetoder af Kommissionen.
But I can and I am telling you, Mr President and this House that the whole thing is totally irrelevant and, as I say, very expensive indeed.
Vi er nødt til at erkende, at i nogle medlemsstater er landbruget som en del af økonomien noget aldeles centralt og kritisk, mens det i andre medlemsstater er en minimal del af den samlede økonomiske aktivitet og med hensyn til dets betydning for velfærdet hos befolkningen som sådan i den pågældende medlemsstat ikke alt for kritisk.
When we have situations like these 58 000 tonnes of dried fruit and the excess wine all going into distillation as surplus, we can understand how quickly the alcohol regulation will become a great drain on the resources of the Community.
Det må efter min mening beklages, at vi ikke har opnået monetær union, og at vi ikke har en enkelt valuta.
With the passage of years, the crisis on the market in alcohol has become more serious.
Et fundamentalt problem, som vi er bekymret over, og som beslaglægger hovedparten af min betænkning, er de varierende inflationsrater fra medlemsstat til medlemsstat.
The multinationals, whose role has been exposed for what it is in an UNCTAD report, have strengthened their domination and found backers for their cause in many quarters, including this Assembly.
Derfor har vi én enkelt pris og fælles betingelser, men landbrugerne, som disse ting har virkning for, opererer under meget forskellige økonomiske betingelser.
The massive output of synthetic alcohol by the British firm BP is, as it were, the last straw.
Som svar på en anmodning fra Rådet udarbejdede Kommissionen i marts en rapport om forskellige inflationstakter og den fælles landbrugspolitiks funktion, og den hovedkonklusion, den drog, var:
But already there is something like 500 million litres in storage and the present output of alcohol is such that we have an ongoing annual surplus of 150 million litres of alcohol, without all the Greek dried fruit ; without the whey from Ireland being distilled ; without the proposals for straw distillation, and so on and so forth.
Det lader ikke til, at en inflationstakt over gennem snittet har været forbundet med en stigningstakt under gennemsnittet i landbrugsindkomsterne.
The report by the Committee on Agriculture takes account of this situation and, at our instigation, takes the line that it is necessary to preserve Community production of agricultural alcohols in the face of competition from synthetic alcohols.
Denne fundamentale konklusion blev publiceret vidt og bredt i Fællesskabet, og generelt tror jeg, den kunne anses for korrekt.
But it has the great demerit, in our view, of yielding to pressure by proposing a common organization of the market on the cheap, one which flies in the face of Community principles.
Jeg må imidlertid anfægte denne konklusion, fordi den synes at stå i så stor modsætning til virkeligheden, som den opleves af landbrugerne i medlemsstater, hvor inflationstakten er høj.
Marketing guarantees, price maintenance, Community prefer ences — all these principles have been swept away and replaced by alignment with world prices for molasses alcohol, coupled with a system of budgetary aid, but with no guarantees and no protection against imports.
Det kan man ikke bare lade passere; deri ligger årsagen til denne betænkning.
In order to counter this move, we have tabled several amendments which obey a different logic and adhere to Community principles.
Jeg vil også gerne sige, at i udarbejdelsen af denne rapport har Kommissionen udeladt nogle særdeles vigtige faktorer.
As I have mentioned earlier, my group and, of course, The Legal Affairs Committee, are of the view that the Commission has undermined the Treaty.
Først og fremmest bruger den sektor indeksen som en målemetode for landbrugsindkom-
We are particularly concerned, Mr Früh, for the industrial alcohol producers.
Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne understrege dette.
They do not do any harm to the Community.
Jeg er mig meget bevidst, at jeg ikke ønsker at gøre noget med min betænkning, som kunne give det indtryk, at jeg fritager regeringerne fra ansvaret for at træffe foranstaltninger til at kontrollere inflationen inden for deres egne nationale grænser.
They do a great service to the taxpayers of Europe because the cost of industrial alcohol is only one-fifth of the cost of agricultural alcohol.
Tidligere har jeg været uhyre kritisk over for regeringerne, inklusive min egen, fordi de ikke havde truffet de nødvendige foranstaltninger til at sikre, at inflationen kom under kontrol.
Therefore, with European taxpayers' hard-earned money being used to subsidize huge and increasing amounts of agricultural alcohol for which there is no demand, not only do we taxpayers have to suffer that huge and growing bill but it will completely ruin the existing industrial sector of industrial alcohol which, as I say, is infinitely more efficient and can compete with agricultural alcohol at any time — particularly when we are so concerned about energy costs, because that is where the cost of distillation comes in.
Nogle regeringer har haft delvis held med sig, andre har ikke.
I believe that this House and the Community should seriously
Det er imidlertid vanskeligt at give landbrugerne i et givet land skylden for inflationsniveauet i netop denne stat. De er generelt set ikke ansvarlige for det.
First of all, we consider it necessary to preserve Community production of agricultural alcohols in the face of competition from synthetic alcohol, which is in the hands of the multinationals.
Til forskel fra resten af befolkningen skal de operere med priser, som er fastsat på fælles niveau i Fællesskabet under hensyn tagen til det gennemsnitlige inflationsniveau.
This organization of the market in alcohol of agricultural origin should adhere to the fundamental principles of the common agricultural policy.
Alligevel står deres omkostninger i direkte relation til inflationsniveauet i deres medlemsstater. Det giver derfor en indlysende forskel.
However, in order to take account of the specific characteristics of this sector, it could take the form of compulsory coordination of the
Maher prøver ikke at dække samtlige problemer. Der skal gøres meget mere arbejde ...
Martin various national market organizations, an option for which provision is made in Article 40 of the Treaty.
Jeg er ked af, hvis det generer nogen, især fra ét medlemsland, men landbrugerne i mit hjemland vil bestemt ikke sætte pris på modstand fra især tyskerne mod dette dokument.
The proposed market regulation only refers to neutral alcohol of 96 % or more of agricultural origin, the origin of which cannot be identified by the taste.
Jeg siger i forbifarten, at gennemsnit selvfølgelig ikke er særlig præcise.
It is due to Mr Dalsass that we are shown the way out of this and other dilemmas.
For eksempel kan man sige, at hvis en mand har hovedet i dybfryseren og fødderne i kominen, vil han i gennemsnit føle sig godt tilpas.
I wish to congratulate him on that and also on his proposal to solve the problem of the reserved sectors.
Det tilslører helt indlysende noget og er efter min mening en god illustration af, hvad en gennemsnitsmåling giver.
This form of market organization would secure outlets for alcohol in certain reserved sectors, namely not only oral consumption and vinegar-making, but also the pharmaceutical and cosmetics sectors.
Indeksen tager altså ikke højde for de problemer, som landbrugerne har i de forskellige medlemsstater.
It would also provide machinery for price maintenance and prevent fluctuations in prices on the world market from disrupting agricultural prices.
Den tager især ikke højde for for skellen mellem udprægede storbrug og udprægede småbrug.
Finally, this organ ization would be coupled with the introduction of a minimum price for intraCommunity trade.
Hvis Kommissionen derfor ikke svarer på en debat, på stillede spørgsmål og på ting, som siges, mener jeg, at det ville være gavnligt for Parlamentets anseelse, hvis vi fik lov til at presse den til at komme med disse svar.
How we eventually vote on the Dalsass report will depend on the response to our amendments, but under no circumstances shall we vote with the British Conservatives, who are defending the interests of the firms which benefit most from the present lack of organization of the market.
Hr. Dalsager svarede på et af mine spørgsmål.
But nevertheless we have certain reservations.
Men det står stadig åbent, hvilken pris han faktisk vil sigte mod for sin alkohol fremstillet af vin eller andre destillerede produkter.
Firstly the rapporteur excludes the alcohol which is most systematically produced, namely molasses alcohol, from this regulation and its guarantees.
Men de to andre spørgsmål besvarede han ikke.
But molasses alcohol is an agricultural product.
Det ene var: Hvad sker der med den franske alkoholeksport, som er årsag til alvorlige rystelser over hele Fællesskabet?
He throws this molasses alcohol to the wolves of synthetic alcohol of chemical origin. Secondly, he includes alcohol distilled from surplus wine.
Og det tredje spørgsmål var: Hvilke fremtidsudsigter ser han i Ministerrådet for sine alkoholforslag? holforslag?
The uncertain yield pattern of wine and the resulting varying quantities of wine alcohol produced have a very unsettling effect on the normal wine market.
Det andet problem er, at Kommissionens konklusioner ser ud til også at være afhængige af, at øgede produktionsomkostninger i lande med høje inflationstakter er blevet kompenseret med præmier i grønne kurser.
Nonetheless our group is tempted to give the report the benefit of the doubt and vote in favour of it.
Det er selvfølgelig ikke særlig logisk, fordi det antyder, at det, der skete tidligere, skal fortsætte med at ske fremover.
We do need a market regulation to tackle the present chaos and to protect our market against disruptions from third countries.
Jeg må retfærdigvis sige, at der har været en vis, minimal regulering af valutaerne i den senere tid, hvilket har forbedret situationen lidt.
My colleague Mr Sablé will take up that issue in a moment.
Men den kendsgerning kan ikke overses, hr. formand, at muligheden for at devaluere ikke realistisk står åben for visse af disse lande med høje inflationstakter.
We only hope then that after more than ten years Parliament will finally give an opinion on this proposal for a common market regulation and that the Council will speedily correct the shortcomings we have enumerated.
Så muligheden for devaluering af grønne kurser står ikke åben, hr. formand, for mange af disse lande for at skaffe prisforhøjelser til deres landbrugere.
Our final assessment, Mr President, will naturally depend on the voting on the amendments in which we shall follow the rapporteur's opinion.
Formanden. — Hr. Purvis, De har stillet et spørgsmål til kommissæren i overensstemmelse med artikel 64, og han har besvaret dette spørgsmål.
Mr Louwes (L). — (NL) Mr President, first of all I should like to inform the House that I have held a position in the management of the alcohol industry in my country for many years.
Det står enhver frit at tage stilling til, om svaret fra en kommissær er tilfredsstillende eller ej. Men hvor ville vi ende, hvis vi nu ikke respekterede forretningsordenen?
Furthermore, I was chairman of the COPA working party on alcohol for a long time.
Eyraud (S). — (FR) Mine damer og herrer, kære kolleger, alle de i blandt os, der er indstillet på samfundsmæssig retfærdighed, kan kun oprøres over den planløse udvikling, der har fundet sted inden for landbrugsindkomsterne i Fællesskabet, planløs såvel i tid som i rum.
Mr Sutra (S). — (FR) Mr President, my dear colleagues, the excellent contribution from my colleague and neighbour Mr Martin will enable me to shorten my own, but I should like to say first of all that I endorse every word he said, not least his conclusion. sion.
Vi skal behandle disse to faktorer om et øjeblik efter i forbifarten at have bemærket, hvor komplicerede landbrugsindkomsternes udvikling og landbrugsindkomstens indekstal er som følge af antallet og forskel ligartetheden af de faktorer, der tages i betragtning ved sammensætningen deraf.
After eleven years of neglect and at the end of three years' work for us, Mr Dalsass has accomplished a remarkable feat in the Committee on Agriculture, in the face of enormous dificulties at a time when it is clear that a regulation on alcohol has become an absolute necessity in Europe.
Må jeg komme med en kommentar, hr. formand, i relation til blot et enkelt ændringsforslag — der er 16-17 ændringsforslag?
Since time immemorial authorities have been concerned with the production and use of alcohol.
Det foreslår i virkeligheden at forkaste min betænk ning, og det foreslår, at Kommissionen burde arbejde på det felt, jeg beskæftiger mig med, og fremkomme med forslag den 1. september.
Over the centuries this product has been surrounded by a large number of regulations and the legislation on alcohol in nearly all societies is a reflection of its legislative traditions.
Men ikke bare det, heller ikke Parlamentet kan gøre mere arbejde, for dette kun er en interimsbetænkning; den
But that is also what makes harmonization so difficult. There is, however, a dividing line in our Community.
Variationerne kan være ret følelige alt efter den betragtede indeks: bruttoindkomst pr. bedrift, nettoindkomst pr. bedrift, nettoværditilvækst pr. ikkelønnet arbejdsenhed.
In the north west agricultural alcohol is systematically produced in a limited number of undertakings and the authorities are almost exclusively interested in excise, which is often twenty times the production costs.
For mit vedkommende fore trækker jeg langt denne indeks, da der jo er tale om
In the south east the situation is more colourful
valget vedtog vi i februar 1983, efter at have hørt økonomer fra alle Det europæiske økonomiske Fællesskabs medlemslande, en betænkning af Maher med stort flertal: 21 for og 7 imod.
However, we are not without our misgivings, first of all because distillation (and hence creation of alcohol) is often the only intervention measure available for dealing with certain products, notably Mediterranean products, which, incidentally, receive extremely unfavourable treatment as a result of the imbalance in the common agricultural policy.
Ja, familiebedriftens indkomst har varieret betragteligt i de sidste ti år.
Finally, we are also worried about the future of the French alcohol monopoly.
Selv om den i henhold til Eurostat er steget med henved 16 % i 1982 i forhold til 1981, så ser vi ikke desto mindre, at den er faldet med over 30 % fra 1974 til 1981. ' .
We are disappointed that there is no preference for agricultural alcohol, for cosmetics and for various other products.
Ja, hr. formand, jeg tror, at Parlamentet er klar over de begrænsede beføjelser, det har, når det drejer sig om at træffe afgørelser.
In conclusion, as a Mediterranean farmer and a Frenchman, I am bound to have reservations.
Den europæiske solidaritet, som jeg tillægger meget stor betydning, forbyder mig at nævne de variationer, der skyldes forskellen i inflationen medlemsstaterne imellem.
During the first ten yes s of the common organization of the market in wine products and fruit and vegetables, 1970 to 1980, wine attracted 1.5% % of the EAGGF budget, fruit and vegetables 0.8 %. %.
Men ulighederne er også store fra region til region og inden for samme region og fra bedrift til bedrift.
They account for 8 % and 12 % respectively of the value of Europe's agricultural output.
Derfor bør Det europæiske Fællesskab udruste sig med midler, der er i stand til at fjerne disse uligheder. De forslag, der er indeholdt i vor ærede kollega Mähers betænkning, er et første skridt i denne retning, og i så henseende har de vor fulde tilslutning.
2.3 % of the budget as against 20 % of output in value terms : there we see the imbalance in the CAP, and as soon as some little progress is made — as has been the case over the last two or three years — we find that one section of this House is immediately on the offensive to ensure that the southern regions of the Community remain for ever at a total disadvantage.
Der er imidlertid tale om alt for forsigtige skridt.
Mr Purvis (ED). — Mr President, may I first of all put right a couple of misapprehensions that seem to be going around this House.
Derfor er vi skeptiske med hensyn til effektiviteten af dem.
Mr Früh referred to the question of restitutions on Scotch whisky exports.
Harmoniseringen af produktionsomkostningerne, indførelse af en importafgift på kornerstatningsprodukter — priser afpasset efter bruger som supplement, til strukturforbedringer — er alene i stand til at svække forskellene uden at belaste fælles skabsbudgettet.
It should be carefully borne in mind that they reflect the very high import levies on imported grain and the very high prices on CAP grain that the whisky industry has to bear and that the restitutions only apply to exports to countries outside the European Community.
Hvis Parlamentet giver afkald på denne særlige be føjelse, tror jeg virkelig, at det giver afkald på enhver af sine funktioner.
The second misapprehension concerns Mr Sutra and Mr Martin who claim to represent parties that represent the working man.
Jeg tror ikke, at Parlamentet ønsker at give afkald på det, der er dets hovedfunktion.
I would like to bring to their attention that there are a lot of working men whom I represent in this Parliament, dependent on their jobs at the petrochemical plant at Grangemouth.
Kommissær Dalsager kan ikke, som han tidligere har gjort det, nægte, at inflationsforskellen faktisk har virkning på landbrugsindkomsterne.
If I may make a friendly criticism of Mr Dalsass' report, we find that it does not emphasize sufficiently the relationship between the hierarchy of agricultural prices and the regions of origin.
Resultaterne i år viser, at over for en gennemsnitlig forhøjelse af landbrugsindkomsterne på 8,6 % er land brugsindkomsten i hans land — Danmark — steget med 24 %. I hr. Mähers land, Irland, er landbrugs indkomsten kun steget med 0,5 %.
I would remind Mr Hord and his friends that I gave clear support in this House to the regulation on whisky and incorporation of whisky in the regulation on cereals, saying that we were in favour of restitutions on exports of all products, including finished products.
Kommissionen kan ikke nægte, at fra 1979, eller fra EMS ikrafttræden, er der sket noget.
I now have three questions to put to the Commission.
På den anden side indrømmer Kommissionen det i sit eget dokument, og det må vi tage i betragtning.
I have written to Mr Dalsager several times and asked several questions in this Parliament as to how he squares the circle.
Det er nødvendigt at lave den fra 1979, hvor EMS trådte i kraft.
In the same sentence he says it will not be allowed to disrupt the market for industrial alcohol.
Diana (PPE). — (LT) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne først og fremmest svare ordføreren i forbindelse med det, han betegnede som et ændringsforslag fra det europæiske folkepartis gruppe. Det drejer sig i virkelig heden om et ændringsforslag fra enkelte medlemmer af denne gruppe, som andre medlemmer af gruppen er absolut uenige i, der iblandt jeg selv.
I would add that whereas we have been talking this morning about the distillation of a quantity of raisins which can be counted in tens of tonnes, it was known full well when it was decided to build the British Petroleum plant in Scotland that capacity was being created for production of a million hectolitres a year.
Det er, hr. formand, ærede kolleger, en måde endnu en gang at udsætte en diskussion på, der' har ligget på bordet i for lang tid; det er en måde at stikke »hovedet i busken« på over for et problem, som bestemt er vanskeligt at løse.
You were given due warning, I have repeated this any number of times in the Committee on Agriculture, three years ago and ever since during the life of this Parliament.
Jeg vil gerne slutte med en appel: jeg 'vil anmode Parlamentet om én gang for alle at tage fat på proble matikken, se hvilke problemer der er, og finde frem til en egnet løsning på dem.
Where is the sense in attacking the man who has a three-hectolitre distillery and supporting the BP plant which produces one million hectolitres a year ?
Som hr. Diana sagde i sine indledende bemærkninger, er Parlamentet nødt til at se nogle af de problemer i øjnene, som drøftes i denne betænkning.
If another plant is built in Europe, its minimum capacity, given considerations of economy of scale, will be one million hectolitres a year.
Men også hr. Mähers initiativ til at holde en offentlig høring om sagen var meget vigtigt, og det var meget instruktivt for mange af os at være med.
If this happens — and there are plans afoot — there will be total chaos.