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I Folkebevægelsen mod EF finder vi det helt me ningsløst, at man brager tid på forslag af denne art, og vi agter naturligvis at stemme imod det.
Mr Skovmand (CDI). — (DA) Mr President, I do not wish in this intervention to comment on whether these new religious movements are so dangerous that we should take action against them.
Eisma (NI). — (NL) Hr. formand, vi er af den opfattelse, at ethvert voksent menneske bør have frihed til at indrette sit eget liv, som han vil, forudsat at han ikke volder nogen anden skade.
Each of the ten Member States of the Community has the means — should it so wish — to proceed on its own account against those religious movements which it considers harmful to its citizens.
Ligeledes bør ethvert voksent menneske have frihed til at begå fejl og volde sig selv skade under forbehold af, at samfundet ikke lider skade.
If in Denmark we implemented a proposal such as that of Mr Cottrell, for example, we would have to look very carefully at the ideas in the proposal to ensure that they were in conformity with the Danish Constitution and the traditions of spiritual freedom which we have in our country.
Ethvert voksent menneske bør endvidere have frihed til at opgive sin frihed, hvis han vil.
The Community does not have such a constitution or such traditions of freedom.
Af disse grande bør man lade de nye sekter være i fred.
Fortunately, the Community does not have such powers.
Det gælder for de økonomisk svagt stillede og for de fysisk og psykisk svagt stillede.
Mr Eisma (NI). — (NL) Mr President, we feel that every adult should be free to live his life as he thinks fit, provided that he does not harm others.
Samfundet bør sørge for, at de ikke udnyttes og bedrages af de økonomisk, fysisk og psykisk stærkere stillede.
Every adult should also be free to make mistakes and to harm him self, provided he does not harm society.
Af disse grande bør der sættes en grænse for nogle af de nye sekters metoder.
Every adult should furthermore be free to give up his freedom if that is what he wants. The new sects should therefore be left alone.
Personlig mener jeg — jeg taler ikke på gruppens vegne som sådan, for vi har total frihed til at stemme, som vi vil — at vi bør afvise Cottrellbetænkningen, men følge det op med et beslutningsforslag, der hen stiller til de nationale regeringer at holde et mere vågent øje med, hvad der foregår, hvordan vore unge mennesker bliver behandlet, holde øje med om man overtræder menneskerettighederne, om man hjemevasker folk, om man ensretter dem, om man holder dem isoleret, så de ikke kan komme i kontakt med omverdenen.
Personally, I think — and I am not speaking here on behalf of my group as such, for we have full freedom to vote as we wish — that we should reject the Cottrell report, but follow it up with a motion for a resolution urging the national governments to keep a more watchful eye on what is happening, how our young people are being treated; to check whether human rights are being infringed, whether people are being brainwashed, whether they are being forced into uniformity, whether they are being held in isolation and deprived of contact with the world outside.
Men det er stadig væk nationale opga ver, hvor man må følge de strafferetlige begreber i de forskellige medlemslande.
But these are still national tasks, in which the concepts of criminal law obtaining in the various Member States must be followed.
Vi må også erkende, at disse sekter ikke optræder på samme måde i alle lande.
We must also realize that these sects do not take the same form in all the countries.
En sekt optræder på én facon i Frankrig, en helt anden facon i Danmerk, en tredje facon i Schweiz osv. Vi kan ikke og vi har ingen ret til at opstille konkrete generelle retningslinjer for, hvordan folk kan, må og skal te sig.
A sect may appear in one form in France, in a completely different form in Denmark, in a third form in Switzerland etc. We cannot and we have no right to set up concrete, general guidelines for how people can, may and must behave.
Nogle sekter er pæne efter vore begreber og følger de normale moralbegreber og religiøse begreber, andre er mindre pæne.
Some sects are decent according to our criteria, and follow normal moral and religious precepts, others are less reputable.
I Cottrell-for-slaget taler man i punkt 3 om at oprette et kontrolorgan under Kommissionen, som skal undersøge sekter og enkeltpersoner over hele verden.
Point 3 of the Cottrell proposal calls for the setting up of a control body under the Commission which would
De ser, hr. formand, at problemet ikke er nemt.
However, the weaker members of society should be protected.
Vi må enten krænke menings-, religions-, forenings- og forsamlingsfriheden eller skade solidariteten med de svagere stillede.
This applies to the economically weaker and to the physically and mentally weaker members of society.
Med rette und lader ordføreren at anklage organisationerne som sådan og vender sig kun mod uacceptable metoder. Men har denne nye sekt nu også mo nopol på disse metoder? Indtil for ikke ret lang tid siden måtte f.eks. nye ordensbrodre og -søstre under den romersk-katolske kirke ikke tale med deres familie og venner i et år.
Society should ensure that they are not exploited or swindled by the economically or physically and mentally stronger.
I samme kirke er mindreårige i mange år blevet opfordret til at uddanne sig til præst, »en langsigtet forpligtelse som er afgørende for deres videre livsforløb«, hvilket i punkt 2 a) i Cottrellbetænkningen forbydes »nye re ligiøse bevægelser«.
In the same Church minors have always been urged to join and train for the priesthood, 'a solemn longterm commitment that will determine the course of their lives', something which para­graph 2(a) of the Cottrell report would prohibit in the case of new sects.
Det bør i øvrigt i lige så høj grad gælde for ikke-religiøse organisationer, men dér forekommer sådanne overdrevne metoder i meget ringere grad.
In short, what is not allowed should be prohibited by law. This should apply to all religious organizations, not only the new ones.
Denne forskelsbehandling af de nye organisationer i forhold til de gamle forekommer i hele beslutningen.
This discrimination against new organizations as opposed to old ones is apparent throughout the reso­lution.
Desværre har hr. Simmonds taget en række ændringsforslag tilbage, som sigtede mod at fjerne denne for skelsbehandling.
Unfortunately, Mr Simmonds has withdrawn a number of amendments designed to remove this discri­mination.
Nu er der kun hr. Sieglerschmidts ændringsforslag nr. 25 tilbage, som kræver, at også alle andre religiøse samfund underkastes de samme kriterier, som er nævnt i punkt 2.
All that remains is amendment No 25 by Mr Sieglerschmidt, which calls for other religious commu­nities to be made subject to the same criteria to those laid down in paragraph 2.
Hr. formand, forhåbentlig vil hr. Cottrell fremfor alt anbefale dette ændringsforslag nr. 25: for mange vil denne betænkning nemlig derefter være mere acceptabel end den tekst, som nu foreligger.
Mr President, it is to be hoped that Mr Cottrell will endorse amendment No 25 in particular. For many people this report will then be more acceptable than the text as it now stands.
Vi er ikke noget »sportsudvalg«.
Three mistakes in so short a text.
Det kan være en fejltagelse, men det kan også være med vilje for at vise, at sådan et mærkeligt »sportsudvalg« også beskæftiger sig med den slags ting.
We do not have a Committee on Sport. It may have been a mistake, but it may also have been a deli­berate attempt to show that this strange Committee on Sport also concerns itself with this kind of thing.
Hvorom alting er, omhyggeligt er det i hvert fald ikke.
Either way, the article was certainly not carefully writ­ten.
Hvis mennesker begynder at reagere på den slags ting, synes jeg, at det er lidt uhyggeligt at bygge sin vurdering på det.
If people react to this kind of thing, I consider it rather weird to pass judgement on it.
Jeg fik, da vi påbegyndte arbejdet med Cottrell-betænkningen for næsten to år siden, breve i massevis fra meget foruroligede forældre fra hele Europa.
When work first started on the Cottrell report, almost two years ago, I received stacks of letters from very perturbed parents throughout Europe.
Jeg sag de allerede dengang, at der også er strengt katolske eller strengt reformerte forældre, som er overordentlig bekymrede og ikke synes om, at deres bøm bliver medlem af f.eks. en socialistisk ungdomsbevægelse.
I said even then that parents who are ardent members of the Catholic and Reformed Churches are also extremely concerned and do not take kindly to their children joining, let us say, a Socialist youth movement.
Der er ingen grand til, at Parlamentet griber ind, men det er heller ikke det, det drejer sig om.
This is no reason for Par­liament to intervene, but that is not the question either.
Kirkernes Råd er bekymret over religionsfriheden, jeg mener, at det er fuldstændig ubegrundet.
The Council of Churches is concerned about religious freedom, with absolutely no justification in my opinion.
Hvis vi ser på punkt B i beslutningen, ser vi, at det dér understreges, at den ikke kan antastes.
If we look at point Β of the resolution, we see that it emphasizes very strongly that the freedom of religion must not be violated.
Det, som det i virkeligheden drejer sig om, har hr. Schwencke forklaret udførligt. Det vil jeg ikke gentage.
The basic issue has been explained at length by Mr Schwencke.
Jeg synes, at vi i Parlamentet ikke blot må tage hensyn til en rapport, som er udarbejdet i Nederlandene, og som sandsynligvis også bliver of fentliggjort i dag, hvor god den end er, men der er flere andre lande i Fællesskabet.
I feel that we in this Parliament must not only take account of a report that has been drawn up in the Netherlands and will probably be published today, however good it may be, but there are other countries in the Community.
Jeg håber, at med lemmerne af Parlamentet så hurtigt som muligt også får rapporten fra Nederlandene til gennemsyn, men det er for os ikke nogen grund til ikke i dag at træffe en velovervejet beslutning.
I hope that the Members of this Parliament will receive the report from the Netherlands as soon as possible, but there is no reason why we should not take a well-balanced decision today.
Jeg håber i hvert fald, at de ændringsforslag, som er stillet af en gruppe med lemmer af udvalget om ungdom, kultur, uddannelse, information og sport, bliver vedtaget.
I certainly hope that the amendments which have been tabled by a group of members of the Committee on Youth, Culture, Education, Informa­tion and Sport will we adopted.
Jeg tror, at vi, hvis vi vedtager disse ændringsforslag plus hr. Sieglerschmidts ændringsforslag nr. 25, får en fremragende beslutning, hvori Parlamentet i hvert fald har givet udtryk for sin bekymring over metoder, som efter min opfattelse ikke længere har noget at gøre med religion.
I believe that, if those amendments together with amendment No 25 by Mr Sieglerschmidt is adopted, we shall have an excellent resolution in which Parliament expresses its concern about practices which, in my view, have nothing to do with religion.
Viehoff (S). — (NL) Hr. formand, i betragtning afalle reaktioner i den seneste tid i anledning af denne betænkning burde Parlamentet egentlig være glad for interessen for sit arbejde.
Mrs Viehoff (S). — (NL) Mr President, in view of all the reactions to which this report has recently given rise, Parliament should really be pleased about the interest shown in its activities.
Ved nærmere betragtning af brevene herom og fremfor alt de breve, som jeg har modtaget i den seneste tid — idet jeg undtager en række breve fra Nederlandene, — har jeg imidlertid en fornemmelse af, at det drejer sig om en organiseret aktion : de samme kuverter, samme skrivemaskine til at skrive adresserne, samme poststempler, medens brevhovederne kom fra forskellige egne af Nederlandene.
But when I consider the relevant letters and particularly those I have received recently — although I would exclude some — from people in the Netherlands, I cannot help feeling that we have an organized campaign here: the same envel­opes, the same machine for printing the addresses, the same postmarks, even though the letter headings indi­cated that the letters came from different parts of the Netherlands.
Jeg vil fremhæve, at jeg intet har imod organiserede aktioner, men jeg er bange for, at de fleste mennesker, som har skrevet brevene, ikke har undersøgt beslutningen omhyggeligt, men reageret på avisartikler.
I must emphasize that I have nothing against organized campaigns, but I am afraid that most of the people who wrote letters had not studied the resolution carefully but were reacting to newspa­
Tre fejl i én lille artikel. Vi udarbejder ikke memo randa, og slet ikke et første, andet og tredje memo
Mr Brok (PPE). — (DA) Mr President, colleagues, in recent weeks we have experienced a disinformation campaign on a grand scale.
Vi ser jo psykoterroren, der udøves af »de nye religiøse bevægelser«, og mens slaver tidligere blev drevet på arbejde med jernlænker, så er det i dag det moderne slaveris psykiske lænker, der gør visse folk i sekterne rigere.
We have been swamped by a centrally directed mailing campaign on the part of the Moon sect, which in some cases, as we have been told by certain sources, such as pastors in the Evangel­ical Church, involved unauthorised use of letterheads
Her bliver mennesker drevet til prostitution.
People are forced into prostitution.
Vi burde indse, at religionen kun er et skalkeskjul, for at ganske få kan berige sig selv.
We should realise that religion is only the cover which is used by a few in order to enrich themselves.
Tag f.eks. lederen af Bhagvan-sekten, der har råd til en Rolls Royce for hver dag i året, som har selv har sagt.
Take for example the leader of the Bhagwan sect who has said himself that he is able to afford a Rolls Royce for every day of the year.
Her rejser sig spørgsmålet om familien, om det at kende hinanden i naboskab, for mennesker, der bor klods op og ned ad hinanden, kender jo ikke længere hinanden, og her ligger der også et par opgaver for foreningerne.
We must make the younger generation feel that it does not have its back to the wall. It is primarily the Churches which are being challenged here and they should per haps leave more room for emotion and not just pure intellect.
Johannes XXIII har i sin encyklika »Mater et Magistra« skrevet: »Det enkelte menneske er ophav til, mål for og bærer af alt liv i samfundet og sin egen frihed«.
In his encyclical 'Mater et Magistra' Pope John XXII wrote, 'The individual is the origin, the goal and the bearer of all social life and of his freedom'.
Jeg tror, at dette igen skal være vor politiske og samfundsmæssige opgave.
I believe that this must once more be our political and social task.
Vi skal gøre det klart, at mennesket er vigtigere end sagen.
We must make it clear that people are more important than things.
Hvis det lykkes for os, kan vi også bedre gribe fat i årsagerne til den unge generations situation og dermed skabe mere menneskelige forhold for Europas borgere.
If we succeed, we shall be in a better position to tackle the causes of the situation of the young generation and so humanise the position for the citizens of Europe.
Vi skal derfor gøre livet økonomisk uinteressant for disse sekter.
For this reason we have to make the whole thing economically unattractive for these sects.
Hr. Eisma, helt i modsætning til den katolske orden — og det er det afgørende — udnytter disse sekter unge mennsker som villig arbejdskraft i diskoteker, fabrikker og firmaer, giver dem bare lidt lommepenge, og når de ikke mere duer som arbejdskraft, så bliver de udstødt, så staten skal tage sig af dem via det sociale sikkerhedsnet, med bistand og pensionssystemer.
They are quite unlike the Catholic orders, Mr Eisma, and this is crucial, in that they use young people as willing workers in discotheques, factories and small businesses, give them only pocket money, and when they no longer have any labour value they are thrown out so that the State has to take over responsibility for them through the social network, through the system of social services and benefits.
Vi burde træffe foranstaltninger, så disse sekter, når de bruger mennesker som arbejdskraft, også skal garantere, at der er social sikkerhed for dem i resten af deres liv.
We should take preventative measures so that if these sects use people for their labour they must also provide them with social insurance for their lifetimes.
Når der opstår sådanne omkostninger, bliver mangt og meget utiltrækkende for dem.
If these costs are generated certain things will become unattractive.
Når det entydigt kan konstateres, at virksomheder blot drives under dække af religionsudøvelsen, skal vi sørge for, at de ikke bliver anerkendt som almennyttige. tige.
If it is clearly established that the practice of religion is merely being used as a cover for businesses, then we must ensure that the latter are not accorded any kind of charitable status.
Sir Fred Catherwood (ED). - (EN) Hr. formand, det, denne betænkning dybest set drejer sig om, er, at der er grupper af mennesker, der lyver for at skaffe sig penge, lyver for at få andre mennesker til at slutte sig til dem, isolerer dem, de har i deres magt, fra familie og venner, og truer dem, der er imod dem.
Sir Fred Catherwood (ED). — Mr President, the heart of this report is about groups of people who tell lies to raise money, tell lies to get other people to join them, isolate those in their control from family and friends, and threaten those who oppose them.
Så denne betænkning har faktisk ikke noget at gøre med religionsfrihed, for ingen jøde, kristen, muhammedaner, buddhist eller medlem af en frimenighed eller af en karismatisk bevægelse kan ønske at skade religionsfriheden ved at påberåbe sig denne dyrekøbte rettighed — som er vundet i løbet af mange år af vore forfædre — for at beskytte den slags aktiviteter.
So this report has really nothing to do with religious freedom, because no Jew, Christian, follower of Islam, Buddhist or member of a house church or of a charismatic movement would want to damage religious freedom by invoking that very hard-won right — hard-won over the years by our ancestors — in order to protect that kind of practice.
Det er latterligt at gøre noget sådant.
It is ridiculous to do that.
Det hele er jo et uhyrligt trick.
The whole thing is a monstrous trick.
Man burde næsten anbefale enhver håndværksmester at erklære sig for religiøs guru, så han bagefter ikke behøver at betale skat.
We should advise virtually every tradesman to declare himself to be a religious leader so that he need not pay any taxes thereafter.
Sekter tilsniger sig på denne måde en konkurrencefordel i forhold til andre, der arbejder seriøst.
These sects do this and surreptitiously gain a competitive advantage over those who go about their business in a responsible manner.
Jeg tror, at vi på den måde kunne fjerne meget af det attraktive fra disse såkaldte religioner.
I think that it should thus be possible to deprive these supposed religions of much that they find attractive.
Også grænseoverskridende skal der ske noget her.
Something must also be done about the crossing of frontiers.
Vi har tit og ofte set, at de tyske domstole ikke kan komme videre, fordi folk, når de passerer grænsen, unddrager sig rettens stævninger, således at domstole nes afgørelser, hvor de er påkrævede og mulige, ikke har kunnet fuldbyrdes.
We have often found that the German courts for instance are unable to get anywhere because people avoid legal summonses simply by crossing the border, so that even the court judgments which are possible and necessary cannot be enforced.
Derfor er det nødvendigt med et samarbejde inden for Fællesskabet; udveksling af data er nødvendig for at forhindre, at retsforfølgelsen umuliggøres af et trick med at tage over en grænse.
This is why cooperation within the European Community, the exchange of information, is necessary, in order to prevent evasion of judicial pursuit by the trick of crossing the frontier.
Som kristen mener jeg, at vi må skelne nøje mellem religionsfrihed og sådanne gruppers verdslige udskejelser.
As a Christian, I think we have to distinguish very strongly between religious freedom and the civil mis behaviour of such groups.
Ellers vil de mange lande, der ønsker at under trykke religionsfriheden, sige, at hvis religionsfrihed er ensbetydende med opførsel af denne art, så er de imod den.
Otherwise, those many countries that want to suppress religious freedom will say that if religious freedom means this kind of behaviour, then they are against it.
Derfor vil vi i modsætning til den tilkendegivelse, vi har fået om, at dette er et angreb på religionsfriheden, som vil opmuntre andre lande til at undertrykke den, gøre stor skade på religionsfriheden i de lande, der ønsker at undertrykke den, hvis vi lader dette gå upåtalt hen og dækker det med etiketten religionsfrihed.
Therefore, contrary to the advice we have been given that this is an attack on religious freedom which will encourage other countries to suppress religious freedom, if we let this go unmarked and cover it with the protection of religious freedom, we will do enormous damage to religious freedom in those countries that want to suppress it.
Jeg håber, at de, der er enige med mig, vil gå med til disse ændringsforslag.
These sects are however also a consequence of social problems.
Alt, hvad jeg hidtil har nævnt, er kun at trænge symptomerne tilbage.
All the things I have mentioned so far are
Hr. formand, kære kolleger, det var de bemærkninger, jeg ville gøre om en sag, der sandsynligvis er årsag til bekymring.
An amendment has also been tabled along these lines, and we shall be voting for it in the hope that it will be supported by a majority.
Man har uden tvivl her gjort en fejl, for der har været en større mangel på forståelse i denne sag, end vi kunne have ønsket.
Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, those were the few comments which I wished to make on this subject, which has apparently caused a stir, although this was no doubt a mistake since there has been more misunderstanding in this matter than we should have wished.
medlemmer af min kirke fik enhedskirkens tidsskrift og fik at vide, at deres formand havde skrevet en artikel til bladet.
I found that out when my church members were given the Unification Church magazine and told that their president had written an article in the magazine.
Da jeg protesterede mod dette i fjernsynet, var der en masse mennesker, der satte sig i forbindelse med mig. Det var meget bange mennesker, som blev truet med endeløse juridiske chikanerier.
When I protested on television about this, a lot of people got in touch with me.
De var blevet advaret om, at hvis de fortalte, hvad de vidste, så ville denne rige kirke sagsøge dem og forfølge dem igennem alle retsinstanser.
They had been warned that if they told what they knew this rich church would sue them and pursue them through the courts.
Disse mennesker så ud til at være helt ude af sig selv, og de var alt for rædselsslagne til at føre en fornuftig samtale.
These people no longer seemed in control of themselves and were too terrified to conduct a rational conversation.
Jeg havde møder med mennesker, der rystede af en skrækkelig skjult angst.
I had meetings with people who were trembling from some ghastly hidden fear.
Jeg fik fortvivlede breve fra foråldre, der havde mistet deres bøm, og som var desperate efter at få dem tilbage igen fra noget, der faktisk var slaveri.
I had despairing letters from parents who had lost their children, desperate to bring them back again from what was, in fact, slavery.
Vandemeulebroucke (CDI). — (NL) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, for det første glæder det mig, at denne betænkning er sendt til fornyet behandling i udvalget, og at der er foretaget en række vigtige rettelser. Hr. Bocklet har kraftigt understreget dette.
Mr Vandemeulebroucke (CDI). — (NL) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I must begin by saying that I am pleased this report was referred back to the com mittee and that a number of major adjustments have been made.