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Ved den lejlighed forelagde den græske minister, hr. Simitis, det program for genopretning af den græske økonomi, som hans regering havde vedtaget parallelt
As a supplementary and somewhat more specific question, I would like to ask, in connection with the deliberations that have already commenced in Council on matters relating to the Greek economy and the Greek Government's proposals, whether Council takes a positive view of the granting of a Community loan, and subject to what conditions? What information does he have about this, and is Council disposed
Goebbels der Irland, hvis der var én turismefond for Fællesskabet med ét sæt bestemmelser?
These treaties apply to every Member State, attributing both rights and obligations to it.
Vil Rådet tage positivt imod et sådant forslag?
This is true of Greece, it is true of every country in the Community.
Kommissionens vedkommende — virkelig er sig turismens betydning i Europas og verdens økonomi fuldt bevidst.
to accept a postponement of the implementation of the Treaty of Accession's conditions for the removal of controls on capital, following the lapse of the transitional period?
Jeg tilkendegav dengang, at der i øje blikket er ca. 4 mio mennesker, der direkte lever af turismen i Det europæiske Fællesskab.
Mr Goebbels. — (FR) I cannot give you an answer on the possibility of a Community loan, because I would be prejudging the Council's decision, which I cannot of course do here.
Ifølge World Tourism Organization tegnede Europa sig for ca. 57% af denne omsætning, altså løvens part, mens det amerikanske kontinent kun absorberede 24% af verdensomsætningen.
He then added that these measures are being examined in depth before Council adopts any particular attitude.
Goebbels. — (FR) Det forslag, det ærede medlem fremsætter, er en af de ting, vi ser på, Jeg vil nødig nu foregribe Rådets drøftelser om Kommissionens eventuelle forslag, for vi har, som jeg sagde før, endnu ikke modtaget forslagene.
I would like to ask: Could this examination result in the Greek Government's having to amend the measures it has taken, or take additional ones?
Og jeg kan kun gentage, at hvis Kommissionen forelægger Rådet forslag i så henseende, skal Rådet nok foranledige en debat om disse meget vigtige spørgsmål.
And in that case what is the legal basis which Council would invoke to impose the amendment of those measures or the addition of new ones?
McMillan-Scott (ED). - (EN) En information til for samlingen, fru formand.
Mr Goebbels. — (FR) At its meeting of 28 October last, the Ecofin Council held an initial exchange of views on the measures taken by the Greek Govern ment on 11 October 1985.
Ungdomsudvalget udsender i denne uge en skrivelse, hvor man misbilliger Kom missionen for ikke at have udarbejdet et dokument om turismen. Det synes jeg forsamlingen bør vide.
On that occasion the Greek Minister, Mr Simitis, presented the programme for the recovery of the Greek economy adopted by his Government in parallel with the devaluation of the various measures drachma, giving details of the planned for this purpose.
Dette afspejles også i turiststrømmene. Det anslås, at antallet af turistrejser i Europa i 1984 steg til ca. 204 mio, mens antallet af rejser i Amerika kun var 53 mio. Disse tal viser klart turismens betydning for ver densøkonomien og derudfra også for den europæiske økonomi.
The Commission, as I have said, expects to complete this examination by 15 November; it will then proceed, with the Greek Government, to finalization of the transitional measures in areas where there are still difficulties, notably in connection with application of VAT, oil distribution and aid to exports.
Men de viser også, at Europa, og især De Tolvs Europa, der for tiden modtager ca. 34 % af ver dens turister, stort set slet ikke klarer sig så dårligt i dag.
I have just stated on two occasions that the Commission and then the Council will be examining this Greek programme and that we shall be having discussions with our Greek partner on the measures which will be required in the circumstances.
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President. — Question No 7, by Mr Barrett (H-439/ 85):
De tal, den leverer, er lidt usikre, hvad den selv ind rømmer.
Subject: Community policy on tourism
F.eks. besøger 40 mio mennesker Spanien hvert år, men kun 1,5 mio bor på hotel.
In the conclusions to the initial guidelines for a Community policy on tourism,1it is stated that
Jeg bruger dette eksempel for at vise, hvor påtrængende nødven digt det er, at Fællesskabet begynder at se noget nær mere på turismen, Jeg spørger derfor rådsformanden, om han når han får budgettet forelagt igen, efter at det har været behandlet her i huset, vil være parat til at støtte et ændringsforslag af hr. Christodoulou, hr. Anastassopoulos, fru Ewing m.fl. om en udgift på 340 000 ECU til statistisk forskning i turismen inden for Det europæiske Fællesskab?
Mr Goebbels. — (FR) I am not here to comment on the actions of the Greek Government, and therefore do not see how I could answer the Honourable Member's question.
McCartin (PPE). - (EN) Finder rådsformanden ikke, at det er aldeles nytteløst at drøfte denne sag, eftersom Ministenådet jo har reduceret Kommissionens forslag til udgifter på samtlige de konti, hvor igennem turismen kunne have fået støtte?
some of the work to further tourism depends principally on initiatives by the Member States and that it is up to them to present tourist projects which qualify for Community support from the Regional, Social or Agricultural Funds.
Kan han forklare, hvorfor Rådet beder Kommissionen fore lægge forslag, når det er helt klart, at Rådet ikke har nogen som helst hensigt om at finansiere noget som helst forslag?
Will the Council indicate to what extent Member States, including Ireland, have expressed their interest in the initial tourism guidelines and are actively presenting suitable projects for EEC aid?
Goebbels. — (FR) Jeg er naturligvis ikke i stand til nu at gå i enkeltheder om de budgetdrøftelser, vi skal føre med forsamlingen. Jeg mener at have understreget turismens store betydning for den europæiske økonomi, og allerede den 23. oktober fremhævede jeg som svar på Deres spørgsmål, at Rådet virkelig finder det nødvendigt, at Kommissionen hurtigt forelægger det nogle forslag.
Mr Cryer (S). — Would the Minister confirm that Greece is not being treated uniquely and that any Member State's government that attempted to impose trade controls on imports or sought to prevent the movement of capital by intervening in some way or another would be subject to the scrutiny of the Com mission, that the powers of the Treaty would be invoked, and that between them and the Council of Ministers they could bring such actions by a democratically-elected government to an end by using their powers under the Treaty of Rome?
Så snart Rådet har fået forelagt Kommissionens for slag, vil vi drage de nødvendige politiske konklusioner af dem og i givet fald afsætte bevillinger for frem tiden.
Mr Goebbels, President-in-Office of the Council. — (FR) All the Member States have shown interest in the initial guidelines on tourism submitted to them by the Commission, so much so that, on 10 April 1984, the
Goebbels. — (FR) Jeg vil gerne først igen bekræfte, at hvad fondene angår, er Kommissionen ansvarlig for driften.
Mr Goebbels. — (FR) The Council, like the Commission, always acts in conformity with the Treaties to
kyndige generelt, aat det har haft en positiv virkning på den flydende trafikstøm.
Council adopted a resolution on tourism policy in which it referred to these guidelines and invited the Commission to submit concrete proposals to it.
Man kan imidlertid fremsætte nogle kritikpunkter.
The statisties that it produces are subject to some doubt, as it itself admits.
Kun 20% af bilisterne bruger den grønne skive, og derfor vil det være på sin plads at gøre mere reklame for denne sag.
For example, there are 40 million visiting Spain each year, of whom only IV2 million register in hotels.
Hvorledes kontrollerer Rådet, om den ovennævnte aftale fungerer til fordel for borgerne i EF, og hvilke lettelser i grænseformaliteterne medfører den? Kan den forenklede ekspedition be tegnes som en succes, og i bekræftende fald: Hvorledes kommer dette til udtryk — f.eks. for den almindelige borger?
I use this point to illustrate the desperate need for the Com munity to begin to study tourism in some depth.
Den nedsatte hastighed ved passage af grænsen vurderes meget forskelligt.
Mr Barrett (RDE). — Does the Council accept its economic expert's forecasts or opinions that by the year 2 000 tourism will be the biggest industry in the world?
Der skal måske en helt præcis henstilling til, for at hastigheden kan muliggøre vi suelkontrol.
If so, does the President-in-Office not agree that a tourism policy for the Community should be given greater priority than it seems to be given now?
Andre praktiske problemer er rejst, først og fremmest mangel på tydelig skiltning og mangel på et andet spor.
Furthermore, does the Council agree that this is the one field where jobs can be created more quickly than in any other field within this Community and more particularly jobs for the young people who are unemployed in the Community?
Goebbels, formand for Rådet. — (FR) Rådet finder, at aftalen mellem Frankrig, Tyskland og Benelux-lande-ne om lettelse af kontrollen ved grænserne er et vigtigt bidrag til det mål at afskaffe grænserne inden for Fællesskabet.
Could I have the assurance of the President-in-Office that the Council is treating tourism, the creation of jobs and the formulation of a tourism policy with the priority it deserves?
Fællesskabet undenettes af de kontraherende parter om fremskridtene i arbejdet.
Mr Goebbels. — (FR) I am naturally not in a position now to enter into the details of the budget discussions which we have yet to hold with this Parliament.
Men de pågældende staters nationale myndigheder har alene beføjelsen til at føre kontrol med, hvorledes disse aftaler gennemføres. res.
I think that I have given full weight to the importance of tourism to the European economy, having already stressed, in reply to the Honourable Member's question on 23 October last, that the Council does indeed consider it necessary for the Commission to submit proposals to it without delay.
Hvad angår forstærket samarbejde mellem politi myndighederne i kampen mod narkotika, fungerer det gødt, og specialisterne mener, at dette samarbej de, der jo under alle omstændigheder har eksisteret allerede i lang tid, hverken har måttet mærkbart for stærkes eller udbygges siden undertegnelsen af Schengen-aftalen. gen-aftalen.
As soon as it has had an opportunity to study the Commission's proposals, the Council will have to draw the appropriate conclusions and make provision, as necessary, for financing in the future.
Med hensyn til afskaffelsen af den systematiske kon trol med køre- og hviletider og med lastvognenes vægt og dimensioner og deres tekniske tilstand, har alle nationale myndigheder modtaget de nødvandige instrukser om denne sag.
On that occasion Mr Barrett asked me virtually the same question and I was able to assure him that the Council — and I think that I can also speak for the Commission on this — is fully conscious of the importance of tourism to the exonomies of Europe and the world.
På nær nogle få undtagelser, som forekommer hvad angår køre- og hviletider, specielt på grund af Frankrig og Tysklands store arealer fungerer ordningen effektivt.
I also stated at the time that there are currently some 4 million people in the European Com munity who derive their livelihood directly from tourism. ism.
Goebbels. — (FR) Det glæder mig meget at kunne imødekomme hr. Rogalla, der var til stede ved un dertegnelsen af Schengen-aftalen, der blev indgået — og det er jeg lidt stolt af — under mit forsæde.
Mr Adam (S). — Would the Council agree that it would be helpful to the promotion of tourism in the Community and certainly be easier for all the Member States, including Ireland, if there were a single Com munity tourism fund with a single set of rules?
Mellem For bundsrepublikken Tyskland og Benelux-landene fin des den fælles kontrol allerede.
Today I am in a position to give the Honourable Member some further figures.
For Frankrig og Belgien ser det ud til, at de to lande ikke har nået samme forberedende stadium. Så vidt jeg ved, er franskmændene parat til straks at følge aftalens bestemmelser.
It has been estimated that the total worldwide turnover of tourism in 1984 was 100 billion dollars, an increase of almost 4% over 1983.
Mellem Luxembourg og Frankrig er det kun et pro blem ved grænsen ved Dudelange, hvor der kun udføres toldkontrol. Her vil problemet med fælles kontrol være løst senest den 1. januar.
According to the World Tourism Organization about 57% of this turnover was realized in Europe itself, which thus took the lion's share, while the American continent accounted for only 24% of this total turnover.
Kort sagt: der er stadig nogle forberedende arbejder, der skal gøres, især en nøjagtig oversigt over forholdene ved alle grænserne.
Mr Goebbels. — (FR) The measure proposed by the Honourable Member is among those under consideration.
Når parlamentet i Nederlandene har godkendt den, træder aftalen i kraft 30 dage efter efter deponeringen af det sidste ratifikationseller godkendelsesdokument.
I can only repeat that if the Commission submits relevant proposals to the Council, it will not fail to instigate a debate on these very important matters.
På ekspertplan synes dette ikke at frembyde uoverstigelige vanskeligheder.
A similar pattern is reflected in tourist movements.
Hvordan ser det så ud nu med gennemførelsen af de foranstaltninger, der trådte i kraft den 15. juni?
It has been estimated that the number of journeys made in Europe during 1984 was some 204 million, while the number in America was only 53 million.
Hvad angår visuelkontrol med privatbiler med den be rømmelige grønne skive, mener de fem landes sag-
These figures bring out the importance of tourism to the world economy and therefore to the European economy.
En særlig arbejdsgruppe er i gang med at behandle denne sag.
Mr McMillian-Scott (ED). — The President-in-Office will recall that I joined in the discussion on tourism
(') Se bilag »Spørgetid«.
Mr McMillan-Scott (ED). — A point of information for the House, Madam President.
Med hensyn til kontrol med jernbanetransport ved grænserne åbner en helt ny aftale om teknisk kontrol med vogne og varer, der er indgået mellem de fem jernbaneselskaber, mulighed for at afskaffe ophøld ved grænsen for teknisk kontrol.
Mr Goebbels, President-in-Office of the Council. — (FR) The Council regards the agreement concluded by France, Germany and Benelux on the simplification of checks at border crossings as a major contribution to the object of eliminating frontiers within the Com munity.
Mit spørgsmål til ministeren er: Deler han ikke den opfattelse, at den grønne skive kan virke sådan, at der kommer en ekstra straf til ved misbrug af den grønne skive, når bilerne oven i købet kan komme over grænsen i en særskilt bane med den grønne skive?
The Community is being kept informed by the con tracting parties of the progress that they are making in the work that they have undertaken.
Hvornår vil ministeren sørge for, at disse, jeg kan vel sige: middelalderlige tilstande bliver fejet til side?
However, monitoring of the operation of these agreements is the exclusive preserve of the national authorities of the States concerned.
Hvad endelig angår professionel landevejstransport, altså de såkaldte tidsbegrænsede tilladelser og visuel kontrol, er der her tale om et meget indviklet spørgsmål, og en analyse af det har endnu ikke ført til særlig generelle konklusioner.
Mr McCartin (PPE). — Does the President-in-Office not think it is entirely futile to discuss this subject, since the Council of Ministers reduced the proposals made by the Commission for spending under every heading by which tourism might be aided?
En principaftale åbner mulighed for frivillig brug af skiven ved »grøn« transport, hvad angår spørgsmålet om at erstatte kønelstilladelser med tidsbegrænsede tilladelser, me ner delegationerne, at det er formålstjenligt i en vis tid at beholde de to ordninger.
In the absence of such a will does the President-in-Office believe that it might be a good idea to transfer from national governments to the European Community — even if we cannot increase taxation — certain funds that might be more appropriately and more fruitfully spent through the institutions of this Community?
Goebbels. — (FR) Jeg mener ikke at have gjort mig skyldig i overdreven optimisme, men alligevel skal jeg gerne indrømme, at der stadig findes ikke så få problemer i Fællesskabet, og at aftalen i Schengen ikke har løst dem alle.
Mr Rogalla (S). — (DE) I regard it as significant that we are talking about this subject today, on the day of the debate on a People's Europe.
I mit svar på hr. Rogallas til lægsspørgsmål sagde jeg, at den ekstra kørebane ved grænseovergangene absolut var nødvendig, så at bilisterne med den grønne skive kunne komme lettere igennem.
May I ask the Luxembourg Foreign Minister to be so kind as to report, in his capacity of participant in these bilateral agree ments, on what has happened and also to state how he thinks this will affect the work connected with the Commission's January 1985 proposal for a decision in this field.
Cryer (S). — (EN) Den lettelse af folks rejer, som er vigtig, må vejes op imod vanskelighederne, og herun der hører f.eks. kontrollen med sygdomme som rabies, dyrs velfærd når de er i transit — mange millioner er foruroligede over, at den britiske dyreværnsforening har påvist, at dyr i transit er udsat for overordentlig stor grusomhed — og naturligvis narkotika over grænserne.
Mr Goebbels. — (FR) I am delighted to be able to accommodate Mr Rogalla, who was present at the signing of the Schengen agreement, which — if I may give myself a little pat on the back — was concluded under my chairmanship.
Der er sket en stigning i forbruget af både hårde og bløde stoffer.
The agreement between the governments concerned, which was signed on 14 June last in Schengen, is aimed at the gradual elimination of controls at their common frontiers.
Kan ministeren kort sige, hvordan disse problemer kan forenes med det svar, han netop gav?
Mr Goebbels. — (FR) First of all I must reaffirm that the administration of funds is the responsibility of the Commission.
Men der vil være kontrol, så længe vi ikke har mod til at afskaffe grænserne inden for Fællesskabet definitivt.
Once again, therefore, the Honourable Member's question should be addressed to the Com mission, and I must also repeat that, as far as budget ary matters are concerned, the procedure is still in progress.
Jeg konstaterer, at mange medlemsstater af forskellige grunde desvæne endnu ikke er parat til at acceptere afskaffelsen af enhver kontrol ved grænser ne, og jeg kan i øvrigt godt forstå grundene til det.
If the Honourable Member is asking me why the Council has not seen fit to enter appropriations for a Community-wide policy on tourism, I would be inclined to answer him with a question: appropriations for what purpose?
Så længe denne situation varer ved, vil der altid være individuelle tilfælde, hvor en og anden må underkaste sig en undertiden initerende kontrol.
The Com mission has not yet submitted an action programme to the Council, which cannot make provisions for appropriations until such time as an action programme is brought before it.
I så fald er kontrol ved grænserne ikke så vigtig, som nogle mennesker måtte tro.
President. — As the author is not present, Question No 8 will be answered in writing.1
Goebbels. — (FR) Naturligvis vil afskaffelsen af alle grænser inden for Fællesskabet rejse mange problemer: sundhedsmæssige problemer som dem, det ære de medlem nævnte, problemer med kriminalitet, med narkotika.
For this reason the agreement came into force between the contracting parties on a defacto basis, with effect from 15 June 1985. Once parliamentary approval has been obtained in the Netherlands, the agreement will come into force 30 days after the lodging of the last instrument of ratification or approval.
Derfor kommer medlemsstaterne i Det europæiske Fællesskab kun meget langsomt frem på dette område — til min store beklagelse, vil jeg gerne understrege.
In the Netherlands, parliamentary approval could come through by next January. A Bill is currently under consideration by the Council of State in The Hague.
Da det er øriger, synes problemet med at »fange« hunde i transit ikke at være så stort, som nogle mennesker forestiller sig.
Subject: Implementation of agreements on simplified customs formalities between France, Ger many and the Benelux countries.
Alligevel mener jeg at kunne sige, at den aftale, der blev undertegnet i Schengen i juni, er retningsgivende for de andre medlemsstater i Det europæiske Fælles skab, og resultaterne, eller rettere erfaringerne fra denne aftale vil bestemt gøre det muligt for andre medlemsstater i Det europæiske Fællesskab at ind føre de samme foranstaltninger som dem, der blev indført i Schengen i juni.
How are the measures introduced on 15 June last now operating? In the case of visual checks on private vehicles displaying the famous green disc, the experts from the five countries have generally found that this measure has made for a smoother flow of traffic.
Der er også et problem med narkotika. Jeg er nok enig med det ærede medlem i, at størstedelen af narkotikakurererne kun anesteres ved grænserne takket være præcise oplysninger fra de politifolk, hvis opgave det er at bekæmpe dette uvæsen.
How does the Council monitor the operation of the abovementioned agreement for the benefit of the citizens of the Community and what recognizable simplifications have been made in customs formalities?
Alligevel mener mange stater, at de ikke for øjeblikket kan afskaffe al grænsekontrol. Mange grunde er blevet anført på
Can the attempt to simplify procedures be regarded as a success and, if so, in what respect — e.g., from the viewpoint of ordinary citizens in the Community?
Cornelissen (PPE). — (NL) Jeg vil ikke lægge en alt for stor dæmper på rådsformandens optimisme, men jeg har modtaget ikke så få breve om, at den grønne skive ikke er nogen succes.
There is a very wide range of interpretation of what is an appropriate reduction in speed on crossing frontiers.
Goebbels til midten af september 1985. Det er de nyeste tal, jeg råder over.
Goebbels
Personlig hælder jeg mere i retning af De forene de Stater, der har de samme problemer som vi i Det europæiske Fællesskab, men som generelt set ikke klarer sig så ringe, selv om de ikke har interne grænser mellem staterne.
Attention has also been drawn to other practical problems, such as a lack of clear signposting and the need to provide a second traffic lane.
Formanden. — Vi fortsætter med spørgsmål til uden rigsministrene.
In the final analysis, the five countries intend to retain the system.
Spørgsmål nr. 29 af Pranchère (H-517/85):
yielded only very broad conclusions.
Det politiske samarbejde undgår for sin del i almindelighed at udtale sig om enkeltsager i besatte områder.
The delegations are prepared in principle to limit controls on vehicles covered by time permits to spot checks as from 1 January 1986.
De Ti, der bestræber sig for at lette fremskridt i fredsprocessen, foretrækker at tage fat på den samlede situation i de besatte områder.
Under an agreement in principle, green discs can be used on an optional basis.
De har i øvrigt offentligt ved flere lejligheder igen bekræftet deres holdning i denne sag, dvs. nødvendigheden af at tage hensyn til det palæstinensiske folks legitime rettigheder, herun der især dette folks ret til selvbestemmelse, med alt hvad det indebærer.
On the subject of replacement of the trip permit by a time permit, the delegations consider it appropriate to retain both systems for a certain period.