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Hr. Penders sagde, at der ikke er kommet noget videre ud af formandskabet. Nu er det jo sådan, og det må De ikke tabe af syne, at de ydre omstændigheder gik formanden imod.
I should like to conclude, Mr Van der Mei, by urging that the Council and the European Parliament cooperate rather better in future, particularly as regards the budget procedure.
Jeg sagde det allerede i min redegørelse, men jeg må ærligt sige, at jeg ikke forstår ham, når han påstår, at det nederlandske formandskab kun var alt for glad for de mange undskyldninger, det kunne anføre for ät bortforklare sin passivitet.
The Council has still not reacted to the resolution adopted by this House — tabled by Mr Adonnino and Mr Danken on behalf of the Committee on Budgets — on improving the consultation procedure.
Når man påstår sådan noget, tvivler man på formandskabets europæiske sindelag. Og den tvivl, der fremgår af det ærede medlems ord, må jeg på det bestemteste tilbagevise.
By the start of the new budget procedure at the latest, we must reach an agreement on ways of preventing any further conflicts.
Jeg vil bede Dem huske på drøftelserne omkring stålsektoren, omkring arbejds løshedsproblemet, Jumborådet, de aktiviteter, der er udfoldet af diverse fagministerråd og det, Landbrugs ministerrådet har udvirket.
Small wonder then that Europe is losing out in terms of prestige and credibility, a fact which was brought out clearly by Japan's policy of prefering to negotiate with individual Member States rather than with the Community as such.
Så kan man da ikke sige, at det nederlandske formandskab kun var glad for at kunne fremkomme med undskyldninger for en vis passivitet. Der har ikke været tale om passivitet, og der er, efter min mening, aldrig tale om et formand skabs passivitet.
There can be no doubt what soever that the only way we shall get out of the blindalley we have manoeuvred ourselves into is by pursuing Community measures, as our erstwhile colleague and now Minister for Economic Affairs in the French Government, Mr Jacques Delors, rightly emphasized at the meeting of the Jumbo Council, a Council which was announced with great ceremony by the Dutch Presidency, but which that very same Presidency failed to prepare properly.
Hr. Glinne henviste til problemerne i stålsektoren og til vigtigheden af, at man er opmærksom på de sociale aspekter af problematikken.
In the wake of our sobering experience with the Dutch Presidency, we must now look to the future.
Jeg er helt enig med ham. Jeg tror, at man kan fastslå — og det gjorde jeg da også i min tale — at der overalt i medlemsstaterne er en voksende forståelse for, at de sociale aspekter ved stålindustriens omstrukturering skal tages meget alvorligt.
On 30 May 1980 in Brussels and on 13 June of the same year in Venice, the European Council made a solemn and binding pledge to restructure the budget.
Jeg har allerede sagt det før; hvis man sammenligner de diskussioner, der indtil nu har fundet sted i stålsektoren og de beslutninger, Rådet har taget, med dét, man for et år siden anså for muligt, så kan man da ikke påstå, at der ikke sker noget på det område.
It is with a great deal of interest and a certain amount of anxiety that we await the Commission's proposals on this matter, and we hope that the European Council will manage to take clear decisions at its meeting on 29 and 30 June of this year.
Så kan man da heller ikke påstå, at det nederlandske formandskab i den henseende har været skuffende.
At any rate, I can assure you that the Socialist Group will take every opportunity to remind the European Council with the greatest possible emphasis of the pledge it entered into.
Jeg har selv deltaget i et møde i budgetudvalget i forbindelse med betænkningen af Adonnino.
The people of Europe have a right to expect govern ments to do more than just fail to take decisions.
Jeg har personligt forsøgt at yde et bidrag til diskussionen.
What is at stake is the very future of the Community.
I den forbindelse vil jeg gerne huske ham på den tale, som hr. Thorn, formanden for Kommissionen, holdt her i januar måned i år. Hr. Thorn gjorde det klart, at denne Kommission, i højere grad end den forrige vil arbejde mere uafhængigt af Rådet.
Mr Penders. :— (NL) Madam President, before addressing the President-in-Office of the Council, I should like to express my appreciation of the fact that Mr Glinne said what he had to say in Dutch.
Er der da slet ikke sket noget?
I greatly appreciate his gesture.
Der har fundet drøftelser sted med denne Kommission og med den forrige Kommission om rettidig fremlæggelse af dokumenterne.
That may appear to be a handicap, but I for one have no doubt that a few minutes will more than suffice to pass judgment on the Dutch Presidency.
Formandskabet har gjort, hvad der inden for de korrekte institutionelle forhold kunne forlanges af det.
Can this possibly be because the Dutch presided so brilliantly over the Council that all there is left for us to say is: Thanks a million, stout
Sir Frederick Warner takkede minister Van der Klaauw for alt, hvad han har gjort for at fremme en mere stabil situation i Mellemøsten.
Elections in a number of our Member States are, to our mind, not a valid excuse for the Council's lack of activity.
Det er jeg ham meget taknemmelig for. Jeg skal gerne videregive det ærede medlems takkeord til minister Van der Klaauw.
Those elections have of course not prevented the Commission, and in particular Sir Ivor Richard, from taking their role seriously.
Må jeg i den forbindelse gøre opmærksom på, at det nederlandske formandskab allerede sidste år, da vi endnu ikke officielt varetog formandskabet, anmodede den forrige Kommission om at gøre alt for at give den nye Kommission mulighed for i god tid at fremsætte forslag til udførelse af det europæiske mandat af 30. maj sidste år.
The fact that the Jumbo Council was nonetheless a very considerable success is certainly due not so much to the efforts of the Dutch Presidency as to the positive contribution of the French delegation, supported by the Belgian Ministers for Economic Affairs and Employment.
Det ærede medlem dvælede kort ved andre problemer, såsom det japanske problem.
We were also pleased at the fact that the index-linking system in use in some of the Member States will be tampered with no further.
De spændte handelsforbindelser mellem Fællesskabet og Japan. Hvad har Rådet foretaget sig?
Despite all this, the Jumbo Council can be regarded as no more than a first tentative step in the right direction.
Sidste år, omkring denne tid, havde Kommissionen udarbejdet et doku-
In the steel sector, we note with satisfaction that the French delegation, supported by
Mødet onsdag den 17. juni 1981
Sittingof Wednesday, 17 June 1981
Hr. Adonnino erindrede om det besøg, jeg havde den ære at aflægge i budgetudvalget.
Penders work, a pity that all good things must come to an end? Alas, that is not the case.
Jeg har allerede omtalt det og jeg vil gerne gentage, at det nederlandske formandskab i tiden op til den 30. juni vil gøre alt, hvad der er muligt for at fremme det, vi har drøftet i budgetudvalget.
A few minutes will be quite enough for me to pass what is bound to be an unfortunately somewhat negative judgment on behalf of my Group on the work of the Dutch Presidency.
Det ærede medlem er uden tvivl klar over dette.
a few examples of what I mean.
Af denne erklæring fremgik det, at der skulle føres samtaler med de japanske myndigheder.
How much of a coin cidence was it that the Commission has not as yet completed its major project on restructuring, so that it could be used as an apology for the inadequate preparation of Jumbo Council?
Endvidere blev det nævnt, at Kommissionen nøje skulle holde øje med udviklingen af handelen i visse kritiske sektorer inden for Fælles skabet.
How very convenient it is to take the line adopted by Mr Van der Klaauw in Venlo and say that discussions will be held after the summer break with leading personalities in the European Parliament — who, I may ask — the Bureau or the chairmen of the political groups? — about ways of improving contacts when you know that by that time you will no longer hold the Presidency of the Council.
Alt dette er sket. Vi har endnu ikke afsluttet vore aktiviteter på dette punkt.
Has anything been done with regard to the Middle East over and above duplicating the work already done by Mr Thorn?
Rådet vil utvivlsomt tale om det i næste uge, og på Ottawa-topmødet, der skal finde sted i juli måned, og som vil handle om udviklingen af verdenshandelen, vil dette punkt utvivlsomt også optage de tilstedeværende en stor del af tiden.
Ah, of course — I was forgetting: we had a new American administration and Israel will be going to the polls on 30 June, so what could we expect?
Hr. formand, det vil ikke sige, at formandskabet ikke vil gøre alt for alligevel at opnå en vis fremgang på dette punkt.
Not much has come of the said Presidency, but the blame for that does not rest entirely with the Netherlands alone.
Formanden. — Tak skal De have, hr. Van der Mei.
That is something I should very much like to stress; nor do I have any doubts about the personal commitment shown by' Mr Van der Klaauw, Mr Van der Mei and all the other ministers.
Jeg antager, at længden af Deres indlæg var dikteret af nødvendige hensyn. Det betyder dog, at spørge tiden nu bliver en spørgetime og ikke en spørgehalvandentime.
It is true that external influences did not exactly work in the Dutch Presidency's favour, but both I and my Group feel that the Dutch Presidency was only too pleased that it was able to trot out so many and such convincing excuses for its passivity and its negligence.
Når jeg nu taler om Ottawa-topmødet kommer jeg til at tænke på en bemærkning fra hr. Glinne.
The meeting of the Jumbo Coun cil was, in my opinion, a positive event in that it set a precedent.
Hvad er kendsgerningerne?
I think we should have more of these meetings.
Først og fremmest har Rådet af økonomiminstre adskillige gange talt om.dette emne.
I must say, though, that there was very little evidence of thorough preparation.
For det andet undersøger det monetære udvalg for tiden, om der kan gøres noget.
Clearly, the Dutch Presidency did not manage to persuade the Commission to come up with a suitable document.
For det tredje vil det monetære udvalg inden længe aflægge beretning om denne sag, og for det fjerde er jeg overbevist om, at dette spørgsmål lige ledes vil blive drøftet på Ottawa-mødet. Og jeg tør roligt påstå, at drøftelserne forberedes grundigt af det nederlandske formandskab, som det sig hør og bør.
If this kind of thing is allowed to go on, we shall run the risk of arousing expectations in connection with meetings of Jumbo Councils which cannot be met, and the resultant sense of disillusion is bound to exacerbate the overall situation. tion.
Chambeiron. — (FR) Hr. formand, når jeg har bedt om ordet, er det ud fra ønsket om at komme formanden til hjælp, da jeg godt er klar over de van skeligheder, der er i forbindelse med tilrettelæggelsen af vórt arbejde.
Fourthly, Parliament called on the governments to reach a decision on Parliament's' permanent seat by 15 June 1981 — in other words, by the day before yesterday.
Vi vil fremsætte denne anmodning i medfør af den nye artikel 45 i vor forretningsorden.
What on earth is the good of the European Council deciding hastily in Maastricht to take no decision at all and to maintain the status quo?
Af hensyn til Dem ønskede jeg at oplyse Dem om det allerede nu.
Does it not in fact say it all, Mr Van der Mei, that we should now be debating the results of a Presidency at a time when the European Council in Luxembourg is still to come?
De er klar over, at vi for at opfylde personalets ønske om rimelige arbejdstider næppe kan fortsætte efter kl. 19.15.
Such has not been the case, and at a time of mounting economic crisis and an increasing trend towards protectionism, it is something the Netherlands should have done.
Jeg tror, at der i det sidste halve år er sket ting, som vi roligt kan huske på, og som vi også roligt kan holde os for øje, fordi de har bidraget til at udvikle Fællesskabet i den rigtige retning. Men han fastslog, og den samme tanke skinnede ligeledes igennem i Sir Frederick Warners tale, at det ikke drejer sig om det enkelte Råd, at det ikke drejer sig om et enkelt formandskab.
A second positive aspect, in my opinion, is the fact that the foreign ministers meeting in European political cooperation agreed at their meeting in Venlo on 10 May to discuss the political aspects of Europe's security problems in the future.
Der er en høj grad af kontinuitet.
That is, to my mind, a very positive step.
Det er ikke sandt, det er simpelthen ikke sandt.
I am pleased with the Venlo results.
Jeg henviser til, skal jeg da gentage det igen, det, der er sket på stålindustriens område.
President. — I call thé European Democratic Group.
Fergusson. — (EN) Hr. formand, da vi tidligere på aftenen stemte om, hvorvidt vi skulle fortsætte med formandens erklæring eller gå videre med spørge tiden, forsikrede man os for, at vi ville få halvanden time til spørgetiden. Dette var et løfte, og det blev ikke så meget som antydet, at Parlamentet kunne blive nødt til at afbryde mødet, før end den normale spørgetid var afsluttet.
The final positive point I should like to mention is the quick decision on agricultural prices, a matter of enormous importance — not to say cost.
Jeg vil på det kraftigste
Let me give you
Jeg er i høj grad enig med ham. Alle, der kender situationen i
For instance, the skill and energy which he has shown in pursuing the European Council's Middle
Jeg vil derfor gerne spørge, om formanden for Rådet ikke vil overveje at foretage en sådan opdeling af Rådets arbejde, som han nævnte, således at Rådets samlinger fra tid til anden, når Rådets medlemmer måtte anse det for passende, kan gøres offentligt tilgængelige?
I hope that that is the answer because in that case we still have time to get together, to reformulate our positions, and to put forward a constructive point of view.
Men som jeg allerede sagde i mit svar til hr. Chambeiron, kan jeg ikke garantere, at vi kan fortsætte vort møde efter kl. 19.20 i aften. Sådan forholder sig.
No doubt he will shortly be making a report to the Council on his activities; we in this Parliament would like to see that report so that we may know what has been done on our behalf and may commend it.
Er han ikke klar over, at forbindelserne mellem Rådet og Parlamentet ville blive betydelig forbedret, hvis Rådet gav pressen og offentligheden adgang til sine samlinger? Er dette ikke vigtigt for ham?
In dealing with the Japanese we must remember that we have a lot to learn from them; that we need to work with them; that we want political cooperation with them; that we want to bring them into a more active part in the world's affairs.
Balfe. — (EN) Vil De dermed sige, at vi ikke kan stole på formandens ord?
That is very valuable indeed and we are grateful for that also.
Formanden. — Efter at medlemmerne af Parlamentet havde drøftet den periode, hvor Nederlandene har haft formandskabet, var den nederlandske formand for Rådet efter min mening i sin fulde ret til at give et fyldestgørende svar på de bemærkninger, der var blevet fremsat.
We have noted the decision taken at Venlo to include security matters in political cooperation and, as Mr Penders said, that is a very valuable advance. It is something which the European Democratic Group have wanted to see for a long time.
Van der Mei. — (NL) I sit spørgsmål henviser det ærede parlamentsmedlem til, at de fleste nationale parlamenter er offentligt tilgængelige, når der træffes endelige afgørelser.
Can I just say in conclusion that we are faced at the moment with a very difficult situation.
Nationale parlamenter og nationale regeringer arbejder på grundlag af en national grundlov, og denne regulerer forholdet mellem regering og parlament.
Presidencies last for months : this Parliament lasts rather longer.
Men i traktaten står der ikke noget om en sådan konstruktion.
We think we are going to last for five years.
I traktaten står der kun noget om medlemsstater, som forhandler med hinanden om et givent lovforslag, og jeg er overbevist om, at disse forhandlinger ville blive yderst vanskelige, om ikke ligefrem umulige, hvis de skulle foregå for åbents tæppe.
But it is the institution of the presidency and the institution of Parliament which are permanent and could, we hope, last for hundreds of years. Therefore we must not look at presidencies as short bursts, as stage acts, which succeed each other.
Jeg tror også, man er enig med mig i, at dialogen med Rådet ofte ikke er tilfredsstillende.
And that is why we hope that the next presidency will look to the work of its predecessors and will lay the foundations for its successors.
Måske bliver vi nødt til at skære lidt ned på spørgetiden, men efter min mening opvejer de ekstra 20 minutter, vi gav formanden for Rådet, i høj grad de 20 minutter, vi måske vil miste i forbindelse med spørgsmålene til Rådet.
We do not mind what particular successes it has from one month to another —: we hope that they will deal with the situation which exists in Europe today and develop it over the months so that others can develop it over the years.
(Munterhed) Vi vil nu gå over til spørgsmålene til Rådet.
President. — I call the Communist and Allies Group.
Prout. — (EN) Hvad er det da, Rådet ønsker at skjule?
Mr Fanti. — (IT) My initial impulse, Mr President-in-Office of the Council, was to keep my peace and not to speak.
Van der Mei. — (NL) Rådet har intet at skjule, men det forholder sig nu engang sådan, at forhandlingerne aldrig foregår for åbne døre.
But all of this cooperation and solidarity are really quite worthless if they are reserved for the simple problems, the ones which pose no difficulties.
Kan Rådet nu være enig i, at drøftelser om de punkter på dets dagsorden, der vedrører forslag fra Kommissionen til fællesskabsretsakter, og som Parlamentet har afgivet udtalelse om, bør være tilgængelige for offentlig heden, herunder pressen, under hensyntagen til, at de fleste nationale parlamenters endelige afgørelser vedrørende regeringens lovforslag træffes offentligt på plenarforsamlingen undtagen i sjældne tilfælde af uoverensstemmelse mellem de to kamre?
I am bound to say that the behaviour of governments over the question of trade negotiations with Japan seems to me to be an outstanding example of running away from solidarity and cooperation. After all, there is no more serious set of problems facing us today than those which concern our balance of trade with Japan, the effect of Japanese exports on our industries in Europe, the problems of getting into the Japanese market.
Enright. — (EN) Er formanden for Rådet ikke enig med mig i, at den kendsgerning, at det mislykkedes for medlemslandenes regeringer at overholde den frist, Parlamentet havde sat, nemlig den 15. juni, med hensyn til at fastsætte ét enkelt sæde for Parlamentet, kun kan skyldes, at Rådets samlinger er blevet afholdt for lukkede døre i det skjulte, og at hvis de havde været offentlige, ville Rådet have været nødt til at vælge Bruxelles eller stå frem som vanæret og til ingen verdens nytte for hele Det europæiske Fællesskab?
This week we have amongst us in Europe the Japanese Prime Minister, the Japanese Foreign Secretary, the Japanese Minister of Trade and Industry and I, for my part, had hoped that we would meet them with one solid European view.
Van der Mei, formand for Rådet. — (NL) Som Rådet allerede gentagne gange har gjort opmærksom på her i Parlamentet, står der i artikel 3, stk. 1 i Rådets forretningsorden, at Rådets samlinger ikke er offentlige, medmindre Rådet ensstemmigt træffer en anden beslutning.
Birmingham, or The Hague, or anywhere else in Europe, and he will get the same answer as to what they think labout the present problem of our relations with Japan.
Rådet vil endvidere gøre det ærede parlamentsmedlem opmærksom på, at det — i betragtning af Fællesskabets nuværende institutionelle struktur — i praksis er yderst vanskeligt at skelne mellem Rådets lovgivende samlinger og andre samlinger.
And that is why this Parliament was able to send a delegation to Tokyo representing ten different countries, eight different political parties and throughout a whole week they were able to speak consistently with one voice.
Dette van skelliggøres ydermere, da der som regel står forskel lige punkter på dagsordenen for Rådets samling.
The Commission, in spite of being a collegiate body, or perhaps because it is a collegiate body, has a pretty clear idea as to what we should be doing to deal with the Japanese.
Rådet har for resten heller aldrig foretaget denne skelnen.
The point of view I wish to express is that I hope that we have now reached the end of a six-month period which will quickly be forgotten in the life and history of the Community.
(Munterhed)
(Applause from the European Democratic Group)
Hutton. — (EN) Der står intet som helst i trakterne om, at det er forbudt for offentligheden og pressen at overvære Rådets samlinger.
I mean, it could hardly be argued that nobody knew what was going to happen for there was ample warn ing of the state of affairs that would come about.
Man kan tværtimod omvendt sige, at der er åbnet mulighed for det i
Perhaps because governments work so slowly the
Van der Mei. — (NL) For det første forholder det sig set ud fra et strengt juridisk synspunkt således, at det er medlemsstaternes regeringer, som har drøftet Parlamentets sæde. For det andet er jeg absolut ikke
The Council — and here I address my remarks to the Member who preceded me — is a permanent managing body, which is vital for Community life and this Institution in the last six months has, in my opinion, plumbed the depths of Community history.
Van der Mei se, hvis man vil nå til enighed, også føres bag lukkede døre.
Fanti them within the Community although this is the very purpose for which it was set up.
Det er nu engang det samme som forhandlinger, og forhandlinger vanskeliggøres, om ikke lige frem umuliggøres, hvis de føres for åbne døre.
The Dutch President said — and I am sure he was justified in doing so — that the scope for development over the last six months was very restricted and I should like to say that I hope the British Presidency will find the scope for development less restricted.
overbevist om, at en offentlig drøftelse af dette emne ville have givet et andet resultat end det, man nu har opnået.
For the rest, if we are to keep our speaking time down to one minute, I should like to propose that our clock is fitted with a second hand.
Hvor ofte har Rådet i hele sin eksistens stemt om at gøre forhandlingerne offentlige?
In the last six months, has Europe's role on the inter national scene grown or diminished?
Hvis det aldrig er sket, er det så ikke i virkeligheden en alvorlig sag?
We cannot answer this question in the affirmative.
Der må da have været noget, som offentligheden godt kune have hørt.
There has been a lack of new initiatives.
Welsh. — (EN) Med al respekt for formanden for Rådet tror jeg ikke, der kan findes nogen artikel i traktaterne, som beskriver Rådet som et organ, der fører forhandlinger for medlemsstaterne.
As the President-in-Office of the Council stated in his introductory report, we are now faced with the same problems we had in January only now they are before us six months later in a more exacerbated form, and we do not have at our disposal any positive, constructive elements with which to contrast them.
Så vidt jeg ved, er Rådet et kollegium, som har til opgave at omforme Kommissionens forslag, som uden tvivl drøftes for lukkede døre af COREPER, til love.
In the last six months, there has not even been any progress made in the day-to-day business of the Council.