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De ved, at De Ti forventer at en genoprettelse af demokratiet på kort frist er mulig og tilrådelig, og jeg mener, at vor holdning over for Tyrkiet er gjort tilstrækkelig klar.
Will he ask the Energy Council to look into this and try to get some better coordination between Member States in order to reduce this sort of government-to-government trading?
Nederlænderne tog i sin tid, da der herskede et militærdiktatur i Grækenland, initiativ til at udelukke Grækenland fra Europarådet, fordi det ikke mere opfyldte de grundsætninger, der er en forudsætning for medlemskabet af Europarådet.
Mr Van der Mei. — (NL) The question of whether direct oil agreements between Member States and oil-producing countries are inherently undesirable is, in my view, not one for which the Council is responsi ble.
Er De rede til at tage et lignende initiativ over for Tyrkiet?
President. — I call Question No 61, by Mr de
Det man læser i pressen giver grund til bekymring: for et par dage siden blev der arresteret 300 mennesker, og blandt disse var størstedelen politiske ledere.
When does the Council intend to adopt the measures to increase agricultural prices for the 1981/1982
Jeg spørger derfor, om det ikke ville være en god idé at bede den tyrkiske regering om at give en nøjagtig frist for gennemførelsen af grundlovsrettighederne og hermed eventuelle valg, som i det mindste ville medføre, at Europa-Parlamentet fik en forhandlings partner.
Mr Galland. — (F) Mr President, at the last partsession we had an extremely difficult Question Time with Miss Flesch, and Miss Flesch told the House that she would ask the Council to improve the procedure for replying to questions.
Vore forbindelser med Tyrkiet er jo i øjeblikket afbrudt, idet vi ikke har denne forhand lingspartner.
Mr Van der Mei, President-in-Office of the Council. — (NL) Agricultural prices are scheduled to be fixed before 1 April 1981, on which date the milk marketing year begins.
Det er vigtigt, at den tyrkiske regering har givet De Ti den forsikring, at den tilstræber genoprettelsen af et effektivt fungerende demokrati, og jeg tror, at en sammenligning mellem den daværende situation i Grækenland õg den nuværende situation i Tyrkiet ikke kan bruges.
There are only two possibilities: either a question is acceptable, in which case it is indicated in the document which we receive and the Council replies to it, or else it is not acceptable, the Council says so, and it is not indicated in the document.
Demokratiet i Grækenland fungerede, demokratiet i Tyrkiet fungerede desværre van der Klaauw. — (ne.)
We cannot go on getting into this kind of situation. tion.
Europa-Parlamentets forhandlinger van der Klaauw ikke mere.
Debates of the European Parliament
Der skal skabes betingelser for det på kortest mulig tid.
Fanton tion costs and cost of living, as called for by farmers' organizations?
Det er beklageligt, det er meget slemt og det er ligeledes beklageligt, at det bliver nødvendigt at gribe ind.
Mr Van der Mei. — (NL) I know that the application of the objective method has been a matter of concern to many people in the past, and this will most probably continue to be the case in the future, but I think it is asking too much at this stage to say exactly what we shall be doing as regards this method.
Jeg forsvarer natur ligvis ikke en sådan situation, men situationen i Grækenland var dengang anderledes.
As I said before, we must await the relevant proposal from the Commission and the opinion of the European Parliament. ment.
Uden fobindelse med spørgsmålet om en genoprettelse af demokratiet i Tyrkiet, som er et meget vigtigt emne, der afgjort interesserer alle meget, vil jeg gerne spørge hr. ministeren, hvor ledes han ser på fortsættelsen af forbindelserne mellem Det europæiske Fællesskab og Tyrkiet og en eller anden form for økonomisk støtte, samtidig med at dette land, i modstrid med De forenede Nationers formelle beslutninger, holder en stor del af den uafhængige og suveræne cypriotiske stat besat.
There were delays in fixing the prices in other years, and since I know that some quarters frequently complain about the national aids some Member States are obliged to grant their farmers because of this delay, I should like to know whether — in the unlikely case of a 'slight' delay in April — the Council intends to grant aid to farmers who are already hard hit by inflation and will be even harder hit if the Council is late in fixing prices.
Har De under samtalerne med tyrkerne spurgt, hvad der er blevet gjort konkret for at få løsladt de folk, som på ulovlig vis er kastet i fængsel?
This means that Parliament will be able to give its opinion by March at the latest, so I think the deadline of 1 April should be met.
Hvad har tyrkerne lovet i så henseende? Og mener De ikke på basis af dette svar, at De i Deres forbindelser med dette land bør udvise fasthed fremfor den form for fredsommelighed, der hidtil er udvist, og som vi beklager?
Mr President-in-Office, contrary to what you have done with the preceding questions, I should be glad if you would try to give a real reply to a real question this time.
Endvidere er der indgået aftaler om udveksling af politiske oplysninger, som jeg har forklaret Dem i begyndelsen. Det er grundlaget for de forbindelser Fællesskabet gennem lang tid vedligeholder med Tyrkiet.
On the other hand, when the prices are being calculated it will be important to take account not only of the objective method but also of the loss in income suffered by farmers as a result of the inadequate rise in prices in 1980.
Formanden. — Da følgende to spørgsmål omhandler samme emne vil de blive besvaret under et:
Mr Van der Mei. — (NL) I would deny that my previous answer was not courteous.
Kan udenrigsministrene oplyse helt nøjagtigt, hvilken arbejdsplan de agter at følge for at videreføre den indsats, hr. Thorn har gj^rt, og omsætte den til konkrete forslag?
The honourable Member and I certainly do not differ over the importance of the matter, but we both realize that both a Commission proposal and an opinion from the European Parliament are first required. Once we have these, the Council can act.
Spørgsmål nr. 86 af Israël (H-667/80): van der Klaauw. — (ne.)
'Mr Van der Mei. — (NL) Mr Delatte made a number of points, starting with his view that there are no grounds for a delay.
Jeg mente at have udtrykt mig tilstrækkelig klart om den betydning vi tillægger genoprettelsen af demokratiet. Jeg beklager det selv følgelig meget dybt, når der på nuværende tidspunkt endnu foretages arrestationer.
I can only repeat what I have already said: we are awaiting the Commission's proposal and Parliament's opinion, and only then will we know whether there are grounds for a delay.
Jeg vil gerne bringe i erindring — og det er betydningsfuldt endnu en gang at sige det — at der før september 1980 blev begået utallige politiske mord fra begge sider.
As regards the national aids and the objective method, I would point out — as I have just said already in reply to another question — that these factors will undoubtedly play a role in our discussions on this question.
Der herskede desperate tilstande i Tyrkiet.
However, I think the time is not yet ripe for a debate on this.
Er minstrene, der er forsamlet med henblik på det politiske samarbejde, overbevist om, at det stadig er muligt for dem at fortsætte deres initiativer i Mellemøsten, når Fællesskabets ni medlemslande ikke er i stand til at nå til enighed, for eksempel under forhandlingerne i De fore nede Nationers Generalforsamling?
Mr Howell. — Can I ask the President-in-Office of the Council if at the time of fixing the price proposals he would also bear in mind that a common price mechanism throughout the Community is becoming increasingly unworkable in view of the differing inflation levels in different countries?
van der Klaauw, formand for udenrigsministerrådet. — (ne.)
Mr Vie. — (F) While waiting for the procedures to be implemented as soon as possible, I think the House is united in hoping that there will be no delay this year.
Efter Det europæiske Råds møde den 2. og 3. december 1980 blev der offentliggjort en erklæring vedrørende en fortsættelse af de aktiviteter, hr. Thorn har udfoldet. I denne erklæring har Det europæiske Råd anmodet det nederlandske formandskab om i samråd med udenrigsministrene, at optage nye kontakter med de implicerede parter.
For our information, Mr President-in-Office, could you tell us whether you have already formed any opinion on the estimate by the European farmers' organizations that the price level this year will have to be more than 15 % than last year's?
Et møde, til forberedelse af nye kontakter, er planlagt før den 20. januar 1981.
Have you any opinion on this, Mr President-in-Office?
Hr. minister, skal jeg udlede af Deres svar til kollega Schinzel, at Deres opfattelse af det ikke mere fungerende demokrati i Tyrkiet betyder, at De faktisk har givet den tyrkiske hær den moralske ret til at gribe ind?
Mr Van der Mei. — (NL) Mr Howell mentioned a number of factors which play a certain role in agricultural prices policy — and not just there — and pointed out that it was important that these factors should be taken into account when fixing agricultural prices within the next few months.
Kan vi derfor ikke forvente et lignende initiativ fra Deres side, som Deres forgænger hr. van den Stoel tog, til under de nuværende omstændigheder at udstøde Tyrkiet af Europarådet?
I feel sure that the points raised by the honourable Member will be given due consideration in the forthcoming discussions on agricultural prices.
Hr. Thorns rejse har bekræftet, at disse principper virkelig indeholder
Mr Van der Mei. — (NL) I cannot answer that ques tion as the Council has not yet reached any decision on this point.
Jeg tror ikke desto mindre, at vi må prøve at opnå det gennem samtaler — også med PLO — men ikke ved at stille betingelser, hverken til PLO eller Israel, da vi på den måde aldrig vil kunne komme'igennem.
As I also said in my reply, it is for the Commission to study the opinion of the Standing Committee on Employment and then submit suitable proposals to the Council.
Tror ministeren ikke, at det bedste initiativ, Europa kunne tage, var at komme med en bestemt udtalelse om, at der på dette tidspunkt ikke kan blive tale om videre forhandling med PLO, før der kommer fremskridt i Camp David-aftalerne?
If it is unable to do this, could it not at least recommend to the Member States that they keep a close watch to ensure that their legislation is properly applied to temporary employees, even non-nationals?
Jeg formoder nemlig, at hvis han mente at kunne komme nærmere ind på enkeltheder i forbin delse med sin opgave, kan han ikke gøre det nu i eftermiddag.
However, you know as well as I do that things can be done differently in practice, and that the Council can drop a hint to the Commission that it wants such proposals.
Jeg håber ikke, at journalisterne, som det skete for nylig i Belgien, vil være bedre informeret end parlamentsmedlemmerne om indholdet i dette initiativ.
Mr Van der Mei, President-in-Office of the Council. — (NL) On 30 October 1980, the Standing Committee on Employment discussed the various aspects of the problem of temporary employment on the basis of a communication from the Commission.
Vi må være klare over, at Egypten er langt det største land, med en befolkning på over 50 % af alle araberne, og indtil der er gjort fremskridt på denne front, kan vi ikke forvente nogen fremskridt andre steder.
Mr Van dér Mei. — (NL) This question has already been looked into by one major Community body — the Standing Committee on Employment.
Det initiativ, Europa har taget, er faktisk ved at forhindre fremskridt på denne front.
This committee made its views very plain, so plain in fact that it will undoubtedly enable the Commission to draw any conclusions which may be necessary.
Mit tillægsspørgsmål vedrører en ganske bestemt del af teksten fra i morges.
Mr Doublet. — (F) Are there any plans to work towards general harmonization in all Community countries, in the light not only of the present enlarge ment but also of the possible future enlargement?
De sagde: »De Ti er af den opfattelse, at de principper, jeg netop har ridset op i store træk, — og som bladet Le Soir uhyre klart havde understreget — må efterleves af alle berørte parter, således også af det palæstinensiske folk og Den palæstinensiske Befrielsesorganisation (PLO), der må inddrages i forhandlingerne.« van der Klaauw. — (ne.)
With particular regard to temporary employment abroad, which involves the risk of illegal practices, there was a convergence of views on the objective of combating such practices and any possible abuse.
Jeg tror, at der er andre grunde til det.
Since you say there is a convergence of views within the Council, I should like to know on what?
Det er angående denne noget besynderlige flerhed, jeg vil spørge Dem: hvordan opfatter De dette »og« og den flerhed, der ligger i dette udsagn, og hvordan vil De sørge for, eller hvordan har De forestillet Dem, at det palæstinensiske folk bliver repræsenteret?
Mr Van der Mei. — (NL) The honourable Member is asking me something I cannot answer, at least not in the way he would like, since he is looking ahead to something which is not yet there. The fact is that I do not know what kind of proposal the Commission will be making, and only when I know this can I answer the question.
Er der for Dem ingen forbindelse mellem PLO og denne repræsentation?
We therefore look forward extreme interest to whatever the Commission will be sending us.
Jeg kan henvise til den erklæring fra Det europæiske Råds møde i Venedig, der udtaler at palæstinenserne, og det betyder også PLO — hvis jeg husker formuleringen ret — må inddrages i forhandlingerne.
My question was quite clear; do you or do you not intend to protect temporary employees sent to an EEC country other than their own, so that they have adequate social security cover?
Da Henry Kissinger synes at spille en indflydelsesrig rolle i den amerikanske politik for Det mellemste Østen og han har udtalt nogle meget kritiske, endda affærdigende bemærkninger om EØFs initiativ i Det mellemste Østen, vil jeg gerne spørge ministeren om Ministerrådet har gjort nogen forestillinger over for den kommende amerikanske regering vedrørende denne sag, og i benægtende fald, om det så vil gøre det, og hvad vil disse forestillinger gå ud på?
My supplementary is thus automatic, since it would appear that this convergence of views has not yet produced any concrete moves such as a directive or even a simple recommendation to the Member States to ensure that their own legislation is properly enforced within their own countries, regardless of whether their own nationals or foreigners are involved.
Vi har taget det til efterretning.
The problem is so clear-cut I wonder why the reply was so vague.
Mener De ikke, at man, for at der kan komme noget godt ud af hr. Thorns rejse til Mellemøsten, hvilket vi er mange, der ikke er sikre på, der vil i øjeblikket, hellere skulle gøre Europas stilling som forhandler bedre?
Mr Van der Mei, President-in-Office of the Council. — (NL) This point is solely a matter for bilateral relations between the Governments concerned.
Jeg skal udtrykke mig helt klart: mener De ikke, at man kunne gøre den bedre, hvis man, før man optog nogen form for drøftelse, klart og tydeligt anmodede Den palæstinensiske Befrielsesorganisation om at afskaffe artikel 19 og 22 i dens deklaration, der, som De ved, indeholder bestemmelse om staten Israels ødelæggelse? Jeg skal henvise til, at et meget ston antal medlemmer af Parlamentet her allerede har anbefalet, at der stilles en sådan betingelse.
Mr Van der Mei. — (NL) I pointed out in my reply that the Standing Committee on Employment had taken a close look at this question last year and that, as regards temporary working in another country, it had noted the risk of illegal practices and the need to
Hr. formand, tror De ikke, at De med den besvarelse, De har givet af mit spørgsmål, blot sigter til en intellektuel aftale mellem De Ni vedrørende Det nære Østen?
As it was a Scotsman who perpetrated this massive plunder, the originals are in the British Museum.
Er vi ved at udarbejde en
Since we know that museums in
Hvis dette sidste er tilfældet, hvilken betydning kan da hr. Thorns rejse få, når dette Fællesskabs medlems­lande end ikke kan blive enige, når de skal stemme konkret i FN?
Ewing also vital to ensure that the smooth operation of the Community market is maintained by avoiding the creation of barriers to the free movement of goods within the Community.
— af Coppieters m.fl. om seks korsikanske fangers skæbne (dok. 1­806/80).
Mr Van der Mei. — (NL) As far as the second part of the honourable Member's question is concerned, she is overestimating my knowledge.
.Afstemningen om disse anmodninger om uopsættelig forhandling vil finde sted ved begyndelsen af mødet i morgen.
I do know what treasures are held by which museum or where exactly they come from.
Formanden. — Næste møde finder sted i morgen torsdag den 15. januar 1981 med følgende dagsorden: van der Klaauw. — (ne.)
It is in any case for the Commission to assess whether a measure is compatible with the Treaty.
Ikke alene på det pågældende område det kan også ske i anledning af andre politiske punkter.
The European Parliament was consulted on the matter on 16 October 1980.
Vi stræber efter ved hjælp af gentagne samtaler at komme til fælles standpunkter.
The Council is awaiting the Opinion of the European Parliament before adopting any position on this proposal.
Kl. 10.00, kl. 15.00 og kl. 21.00: — afgørelse om uopsættelig forhandling,
However, as for the first part of her question, I can only repeat what I said before — this is a typical matter for bilateral relations between individual countries. tries.
— betænkning af Walz om decentralisering af ener­giproduktionen,
These measures are being studied in the Council.
— betænkning af Alber om forsknings­ og udvik­lingsprogram på miljøområdet,
Mr Seal. — I would like to thank the President for his answer, even though it only answered part of the question I asked.
Og for det andet, når han taler om betingelser for PLO, eller rettere sagt om ikke nogen betingelser, vil han så ikke indrømme, at en af betingelserne skal være respekten for staten Israels eksistens, i det mindste inden for dets grænser fra før 1967?
Could the President assure us that the problem of fraudulent origin marking is discussed quickly by the Council and that it will report back to Parliament on this very important matter?
— betænkning af van den Heuvel om menneskeret­tighederne i Uruguay,
Mr Van der Mei. — (NL) Mr President, I am only too pleased to reassure any Members who may need reassurance, although I must naturally remain within the limits imposed upon me by the Presidency of the Council.
— betænkning af Nyborg om indførelse af visse goder,
Mr Van der Mei. — (NL) I just said in my initial reply that, as regards fraud, the Commission had sent the Council a proposal for a regulation at the end of last July, based on Article 113.
— interimsbetænkning af Pruvot om kulturarbejder,
Would the Council be in favour of uniform criteria requiring all clothing to carry a clear indication of country of manufacture?
— betænkning af Prag om integrering af arbejde og uddannelse for unge, van der Klaauw. —(ne.)
Mr Paisley. — Is the President-in-Office aware that these products are striking at the very heart of the shirt industry of Northern Ireland?
Med hensyn til det sidste: endnu en gang, de handlinger, som De Ni foretager sig, er selvfølgelig rettet mod statens Israels vedbli­vende og sikre eksistens — det står meget klart i erklæringen fra Venedig. Derom er der ingen som helst tvivl.
Is he aware that these shirts are first imported into an EEC country on the Continent and then transported to Northern Ireland under terms greatly detrimental to the clothing industry in Northern Ireland, which is in great jeopardy at the present time?
Med hensyn til kontakten med den nye amerikanske rege­ring: der har været proceduremæssige kontakter, der er rettet mod så hurtigt som muligt at kunne forhandle også om Det mellemste Østen, og jeg håber på, inden længe, at kunne rejse til Washington.
Mr Van der Mei, President-in-Office of the Council. — (NL) The Council is aware that some Member States have taken steps to regulate the indication of the origin of some products, particularly textile and clothing products.
Men selvfølgelig kan de egentlige forhandlinger først finde sted, efter at den nye regering er indsat. Indtil da er det ikke muligt — end ikke uformelt, viste det sig — at komme til en dybtgående samtale om f.eks. de mellemøstlige problemer.
In this connection, it would seem that while there should be provision for effectively monitoring products' origins and consideration should be given to consumers' concern for information, it is
Mødet onsdag den 14. Januar 1981
Sitting of Wednesday, 14 January 1981
Spørgsmål, der ikke har kunnet besvares i spørgetiden, besvaret skriftligt
Van der Mei attention to the replies given by the Presidency to Parliament this morning as well as this afternoon.
Spørgsmål nr. 14 af Tove Nielsen (H-528/80)
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Om: Støtte til sikring af indkomstniveauet for arbejdstagere i skibsbygningsindustrien.
Mr President, I should like to emphasize this readiness on behalf of the Dutch Presidency.
Kommissionens forslag om tilskud fra Den europæiske Socialfond til indkomststøtte for arbejdstagere i skibsbygningsindustrien blev ikke vedtaget af Rådet.
Mr Van der Mei. — (NL) The honourable Member raises a number of points — barriers to competition on the one hand and legislation in the field in question on the other.
Trods forslagets skæbne synes jeg, spørgsmålet er relevant, og jeg skal gøre mit bedste for at besvare det.
Furthermore, the Commission submitted a proposal to the Council in October 1980, and the Council is awaiting Parliament's opinion on this.
I Kommissionens forslag, som gik ud på støtte til arbejdstagere i den civile skibsbygningsindustri, stod der ganske vist intet om skibsværfter med blandet produktion, dvs. til civile formål og til flåden.
But the press agencies are not a formal part of Parliament's machinery, and unless they pay for an advertisement in the newspapers giving a full report as to what has been submitted to them, it does not become part of Parliament's machinery.
Men forslagets logik og især den nære forbindelse mellem denne sociale foranstaltning og det arbejdsområde, hvor omstrukturering ansås for at være særlig nødvendig, hjælper os til at finde ud af, hvem der kan komme i betragtning i dette tilfælde.
Cannot the President-in-Office go that step forward, instead of being just conciliatory and saying it will answer if asked? Will it do what the Commission does, which has proved to be helpful, and give a formal report on what they do with the opinions Parliament sends them?
Det ville således have været nødvendigt at vise en vis smidighed ved gennemførelsen af foranstaltningen over for arbejdstagere, hvis arbejde ikke er begrænset til skibsbygning til civile formål eller til flåden.
In order to inform the directly-elected European Parliament of the impact of its Resolutions on Council decisions, will the Council agree to make a monthly report to Parliament, as is done by the Commission, on the action it has taken on Opinions and Resolutions adopted by Parliament?
På den anden side ville arbejdstagere, der er ansat i en virksomhed med blandet produktion, og som arbejder enten på heltid med skibsbygning til flåden eller på et særskilt værft udelukkende med denne art skibsbygning, ikke kunne komme i betragtning.
Mr Van der Mei, President-in-Office of the Council. — (NL) The Council is always prepared to inform the European Parliament of the action it has taken on the latter's Resolutions, either on the basis of written or oral questions or in reply to a specific request by the President of the European Parliament.
Da Kommissionen forelagde sit forslag, gjorde den ikke noget forsøg på at specificere, hvem der kunne komme i betragtning inden for den enkelte virksomhed, hverken i Danmark eller i de øvrige medlemsstater.
The positions of the Council and the Commission are defined differently in the Treaty, and it is this difference in definition which determines their relations with Parliament.