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Jeg har forstået, hvad De mener.
I get your meaning.
Jeg skal gentage lang somt, så De kan høre oversættelsen, at De ifølge forretningsordenen i morgen kl. 15, hvis De støttes af Deres politiske gruppe eller indsamler 21 under skrifter, kan sætte det beslutningsforslag, De har fremsat, under afstemning, og hvis forsamlingen accepterer det, vil det blive opført på torsdagens dagsorden.
I repeat, therefore, slowly, so that you can follow the interpretation, that, pursuant to the Rules of Procedure, if you can obtain the support of your political group or collect 21 signatures, you may put your motion for a resolution to the vote at 3 p.m. tomorrow.
De vil få tid til at konsultere dagens protokol, som vil blive omdelt i morgen, for at finde ud af, hvad de skal gøre kl. 15.
Even if many colleagues are unable, because of the interpretation, to understand some of what is said from the Chair, they will have time to consult today's minutes which will be available tomorrow in order to learn what they will be doing at 3 p.m.
Jeg vil mene, at emnet er uddebatteret.
I think that is the end of the matter.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er første del af spørgetiden (dok. 1-490/83).
President. — (GR) The next item on the agenda is the first part of Question Time (Doc. 1-490/83).
Marshall (ED). — (EN) Ved at betegne situationen i Mellemøsten som kompleks mener rådsformanden da ikke, at komplekse situationer kræver nogle noget mindre ensidige udtalelser, end dem han kom med i formiddags?
Mr Normanton (ED). — May I first of all thank the President-in-Office for that extremely lengthy reply which really means that only within the last few days has the Financial Protocol with Israel been put into operation.
Men i alle de parlamenter, jeg har set eller iagttaget, gør man det ikke. Ministeren kan slippe for at svare på et spørgsmål, han ikke ønsker at besvare, hvis det gøres på denne måde.
But will the President-in-Office not declare, and use this occasion to do so, that peace in the Lebanon is now being held up by Syria and Syrian intransigence on coming to agreement with the Lebanon ?
Når spørgsmål har haft næsten samme indhold, har jeg som parlamentariker i Parlamentet ofte oplevet, at andre næstformænd har accepteret denne procedure, når de har haft forsædet.
And will he adopt exactly the same procedure vis-à-vis Syria as the Community did against Israel ?
Charalambopoulos. — (GR) Det falder mig ikke svært at svare på de ærede medlemmers spørgsmål, og jeg tillader mig at gøre opmærksom på, at jeg også har en vis erfaring fra denne sal.
Or is this to be another example of double standards in the field of international negotiation — a principle which this House would universally deplore ?
går dybere ind i dette, tror jeg, man vil kunne fortolke det på den måde, at mange af os eller snarere de fleste eller alle af os ønsker at se en reel fred i Mellemøsten, en varig, retfærdig og stabil fred.
However, the question which I want to put the President-in-Office of the Council of Ministers is this : did the Council of Ministers consider that it was sufficient for Israel, in the agree ment with Lebanon, to say that it would withdraw troops from the country, and is its position adequate as regards the very harsh, permanent occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, which has brought about a reaction in the United States, and also as regards, finally, the condition of prisoners held in Israeli camps in Lebanon, which has been documented very precisely ?
Charalambopoulos. — (GR) Jeg har allerede svaret på det ærede medlems spørgsmål.
Mr Charalambopoulos. — (GR) I will gladly answer the Member's question, and I remind him that the problem, as laid out by me in my statement this morning marking the assumption by Greece of the Presidency, is complex, intricate and difficult, and that all of us hope and wish for it to be tackled in an overall, I would say, global, manner.
Ministerrådet vil i det pågældende tilfælde — som jeg erklærede i morges — gøre alt for at stifte retfærdig og varig fred i dette dyrebare område.
Given this, we shall, as is right, await developments in the region, developments which no one can safely predict.
For det græske formandskabs vedkommende vil der blive udfoldet alle mulige bestræbelser, og — som jeg også nævnte i formiddags kunne Grækenland på grund af sine særlige bånd bruges og med de forbin delser, det har, tilbyde sin hjælp, således at vi kan håbe på en varig og retfærdig løsning i området.
We should like these developments to take a positive course, and to lead, ultimately, to agreement by all the interested parties on a global approach to the problem of bringing peace to the Middle East, so that a proper, fair and lasting solution can be found for this — for the peace of the world — crucial and enormously important issue.
Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Jeg vil gerne tage ordet til forretningsordenen samt stille et tillægsspørgsmål. Jeg vil fatte mig i korthed med hensyn til forretningsordenen.
Sir James Scott-Hopkins (ED). — On a point of order, you are creating, are you not, a precedent in saying that the Minister need not answer each individual question as it is put to him, that he can wait till the end of the supplementaries and then answer in the round ?
Jeg synes, lady Elles' fremgangsmåde er den bedste, og heri tror jeg, at alle mine kolleger er enige.
This is a procedure which this House has not had in the past and it is something which, to my mind, is absolutely unacceptable.
Jeg vil anmode formanden om at mindske min frygt og frygten blandt mange andre, der tror på demokra tiet, ved at erklære, at formandskabet i den særlige situation, det befinder sig i over for Israel, ikke vil blive misbrugt i den periode.
Mr Marshall (ED). — In describing the situation in the Middle East as complex would the President-in-Office of the Council not agree that complex situations demand somewhat less onesided statements than he gave this morning ?
Da mange af os mener, at Kommissionen overreagerede, vil formanden da sikre, at hans handlinger baseres på en retfærdig behandling af det israelske samfund, og at de syriske og israelske samfund behandles på et ens grundlag?
And would he not confirm that the United States of America is paying the Israeli Government to keep Israeli troops in the Lebanon as a peace-keeping operation and that it is the Syrians who are refusing to go and who are refusing to allow all foreign troops to leave the Lebanon and that it is the Syrians who are stirring up the PLO into waging war against their leaders and it is the Syrians who are the destabilizing force in the Middle East and that the Community ought to do something to take action against them ?
Formanden. — Jeg mener ikke, at dette var et spørgsmål, kære kollega.
Maybe you have this in the Greek Parliament — I do not know, Sir.
Hvad angår mit tillægsspørgsmål, vil jeg gerne spørge rådsformanden: Støtter denne generelle målsætning en fredsslutning i Mellemøsten?
But certainly in any parliament that I have ever seen or watched they do not have it.
Der er imidlertid også et spørgsmål i relation til hr. Normantons spørgsmål.
The Minister can get out of answering a question he does not want to answer if you do it this way.
Rådets handlinger og for at være konkret frigivelsen af protokollen er i virkeligheden udtryk for et ensidigt standpunkt, som vejer til fordel for de kræfter, som underminerer Mellemøsten.
So I do suggest, Sir, that leaving aside what has happened up to now, you would suggest to the Minister, and I am sure he would be willing, to answer every supplementary question as it is put down.
Charalambopoulos. — (GR) Sagen er ikke således, som det ærede medlem fremstillede den. Jeg vil mene, at hvad jeg erklærede i morges, dvs. at der under det græske formandskab vil blive udfoldet alle mulige bestræbelser for at opnå en fremgang, der kan bringe freden til Mellemøsten, må kunne tilfredsstille ham.
Mr Charalambopoulos. — (GR) I would prefer to answer the supplementary from the honourable gentleman right away, and to recall the reference to the Middle East in the statement by the European Council at the meeting in Stuttgart.
Charalambopoulos. — (GR) Som jeg tidligere har nævnt i forbindelse med Det europæiske Råds erklæring i Stuttgart blev aftalen mellem Israel og Libanon anset for et skridt i den rigtige retning mod den fredsslutning, jeg talte om, og som vi alle har i tankerne.
President. — Sir James, if I may reply to the remarks you have just made, it is not true that the President-in-Office of the Council has never answered several questions at once.
Bonde (CDI). — Jeg stillede et spørgsmål.
(Mixed reactions)
Bonde (CDI). — Kan rådsformanden oplyse, om det græske formandskab på nogen måde vil lade Grækenlands holdning til Mellemøsten tilpasse beslutningerne i EPS-samarbejdet?
Mr Bonde (CDI). — (DK) Can the President-in-Office tell us whether the Greek Presidency intends to bring its views on Middle East policy into line with the decisions that have been taken within the framework of European Political Cooperation ?
Charalambopoulos. — (GR) På trods af, at dette spørgsmål ikke har nogen relation til det oprindelige spørgsmål, vil jeg kommentere emnet.
Mr Charalambopoulos. — (GR) I have no difficulty whatsoever in answering the Members' questions, and. if you come to think of it, I have myself got experience of this House.
Og det vil jeg gøre, fordi det ærede medlem, hvis han vil informeres om den græske regerings standpunkter, blot behøver bede Europa-Parlamentets formand om teksten til
There are questions which are similar in content, and it is possible for the Minister to save time by giving an overall answer to them. However, as far as I am concerned I have no difficulty in answering each question by itself.
Adam (S). — (EN) Vi har ikke blot skrevet historie i dag, idet det er første gang, at den græske rådsformand er mødt frem for at besvare spørgsmål — hvilket jeg glæder mig meget over — men vi var lige ved at skrive historie ved kun at få besvaret et spørgsmål.
I would like now to answer the two questions which were put before Sir James Scott-Hopkins spoke, and to say that in my statement this morning I said, amongst other things, that we are prepared, as a Presid ency, to do whatever we can to bring peace to the Middle East region.
Jeg er vældig glad for, at man gik over til spørgsmål nr. 2. Jeg må gøre rådsformanden en udskyldning for, at det tog lang tid, inden mit spørgsmål nåede frem til ham.
I believe that if this is looked at closely one must give the interpretation that many of us, or rather most or even all of us, would like, that is, to see a genuine peace settlement in the Middle East, a settlement which is permanent, fair and durable.
Gerokostopoulos (PPE). — (GR) Hr. Alavanos rejste et spørgsmål, som vi gerne ville have et svar på.
Lebanon and added that all foreign troops, whom the Lebanon wanted out of the Lebanon, are to go.
Andre af Deres kolleger har, når de er i formandssædet, indført, at der kun accepteres et tillægsspørgsmål fra hver politisk gruppe.
While I am happy that the Council has now signed the Financial Protocol with Israel.
Så vidt vi husker, benyttede lady Elles sig af denne regel, da hun præsiderede under sidste mødeperiode. Tror De ikke, at De også kunne benytte denne fremgangsmåde?
I should like to ask what is going to be done to get the Syrian troops out of the Lebanon ?
For hvis vi ikke følger denne regel, som er særdeles praktisk og et udslag af den praktiske engelske ånd, så risikerer vi, hver gang vi behandler spørgsmålene, at vi kun når et eller to spørgsmål.
Israel has taken a step — an important step — in showing its willingness to pull its troops out of the Lebanon at precisely the same time as all other foreign troops are withdrawn.
Jeg ser, at det står i Kommissionens rapport: en medlemsstat dette ... en anden medlemsstat hint ... to medlemsstater tager forbehold på et andet punkt.
Syrian troops have, after all, been in the the Lebanon for many years.
Ville det hjælpe, hvis Rådet i sine redegørelser efter sine drøftelser gjorde det klart, hvilke medlemsstater der tog forbehold på disse punkter, for at vi kan identificere dem?
What does the Council intend doing to persuade Syria and its troops to show the same will ingness ?
Charalambopoulos. — (GR) Jeg vil svare hr. Adam og sige, at jeg vil overveje hans bemærkninger, og jeg tror, at jeg ved min næste fremtræden her, muligvis senere, vil være i stand til at informere ham angående de spørgsmål, han har stillet.
Mr Charalambopoulos. — (GR) I have already answered the Member's question. On the point in question the Council of Ministers will — as I stated this morning — do its utmost to help in leading this much yearned after region to a just and lasting peace
Det er ikke kun et spørgsmål om politisk gruppe, men ofte også om nationalitet.
In view of the Minister's ability and willingness to answer the questions I think it would be better if we implemented the procedure applied by Lady Elles : an immediate answer to each question, that is, but only one question from each group because there is a real danger of our staying too long on one question and leaving the others without an answer.
Imidlertid tager jeg Deres bemærkning til efterretning og vil forsøge ved det næste spørgsmål at begrænse antallet af talere.
I believe that the procedure applied by Lady Elles is the best, and I think that all the other Members will agree.
Moreland (ED). — (EN) Kunne jeg spørge rådsformanden, hvorvidt han siger, at vanskelighederne og langsommeligheden er til stede på det politiske plan på grund af politiske vanskeligheder, eller om vanskelighederne i hovedsagen er af teknisk art og vedrørers detaljespørgsmål og enigheden om disse detaljer?
For its part the Greek Presidency will make every possible effort and — as I stated this moring — Greece could, because of its special links and the access which it has, function as a country able to offei its good services in such a manner as to give us hope for a lasting and just peace in the region.
Gontikas (PPE). — (GR) Jeg vil blot bemærke til, hvad De helt korrekt sagde, at retten til at stille spørgsmål hverken hører til de politiske eller de nationale grupper. Den tilhører de inviduelle medlemmer.
Mr Davern (DEP). — May I first of all welcome the Greek Presidency to the Parliament.
Charalambopoulos. — (GR) Jeg kan i dette øjeblik blot erklære, at jeg ikke er bemyndiget til at komme med personlige hentydninger og nævne i forbindelse med de emner, som er bragt på bane i tillægsspørgsmålene. målene.
I would ask the President-in-Office to allay my fears and those of many other people who believe in democracy that the office of the Presidency in the peculiai situation it finds itself in vis-à-vis Israel will not be misused in that period.
Men nu vil jeg anmode om, at vi ikke spilder mere tid med indlæg til forretningsordenen og fortsætter spørgetiden.
Would the President-in-Office ensure that his actions are based on fairplay to the Israeli community and that the Syrian and Israeli communities are treated on the same basis ?
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 3 af Hutton (H-153/ 83):
Does this general objective help towards bringing peace to the Middle East ?
Spørgsmål nr. 2 af Adam (H-83/83):
There is, however, also a query which is related to Mr Normanton's question.
I sin redegørelse om problemerne for det interne marked til Det europæiske Råds møde i Bruxelles (22. og 23. marts 1983) konkluderede Kommissionen, at mangelen på fremgang skyldtes tjenestemænds langsommelighed.
The actions of the Council, and specifically the freeing of the protocol, are an expression, in fact, of one-sidedness which, in the final analysis, tips the balance in favour of the forces which are undermining peace efforts in the Middle East.
Under hensyntagen til, at Rådet har indvilliget i, at en delegation fra Parlamentets politiske udvalg holder møde med medlemmer af Coreper, vil Rådet så udvide Corepers parlamentariske ansvar, så at formanden fremtidig vil besvare medlem mernes spørgsmål om Corepers aktiviteter?
And I would like to ask the Minister how he has removed Israel, and the problems and dangers it has created as regards a peaceful settlement in the Middle East, from the equation, at a time when it is still in the Lebanon and when Israeli leaders are saying that the occupation there will continue for another five years at least.
I hvor høj grad er Rådet enig i denne opfattelse?
President. — (GR) I think that is not even a question. tion.
Charalambopoulos, formand for Rådet. — (GR) På mødet, som fandt sted den 24. januar 1983 mellem Europa-Parlamentets udvidede præsidium og udenrigsministerne fra Fællesskabets medlemsstater, foreslog hr. Rumor, at der dannedes en kontaktgruppe med henblik på undersøgelsen af de beslutninger, som Europa-Parlamentet har vedtaget angående fælles skabsorganerne.
Mr Charalambopoulos. — (GR) I mentioned earlier in connection with the statement by the European Council in Stuttgart, the agreement between Israel and the Lebanon is considered to be a step towards the achievement of the sort of peace settlement I have defined, towards the peace settlement all of us have in mind.
Derfor vil jeg ikke vende tilbage hertil.
Naturally, there will need to be other steps.
Jeg vil blot fremhæve de bestræbelser, som er gjort, og som fortsat vil blive gjort af Rådet inden for dette spørgsmål.
If, ensuingly, steps are taken by all sides which will satisfy the just demands of the peoples and States of the region on a more general basis, I believe that this position of the European Council in Stuttgart opens a way to a solution in a manner which enables us at last to speak about a real peace settlement in the Middle East.
Skønt det endnu ikke har været muligt at realisere det planlagte program i dets helhed, er der formuleret en reel politisk vilje uafhængigt, af hvor ledes man vil tolke tjenestemændenes holdning.
Mrs Tove Nielsen (L). — (DA) The President-in-Office has said that all foreign troops must leave the
Imidlertid har Rådet endnu ikke truffet nogen afgørelse i dette spørgsmål.
I think that he should be satisfied with what I stated very comprehensively this morning, namely, that during the time of the Greek Presidency every possible effort will be made to achieve progress which can lead to a peaceful settle ment in the Middle East.
... og jeg vil anmode Dem om at tage Deres afgø­relse op til fornyet overvejelse.
How far does the Council concur with this view ?
De vil sikkert ikke bryde Dem om at blive anset for at være mandschau­vinist, da jeg ser, at ordet ikke er blevet givet til nogen kvinde under dette spørgsmål.
Mr Bonde (CDI). — (DA) Can the President-in-Office say whether the Greek presidency will in some way seek the application in Greek policy towards the Middle East of the decisions taken within the framework of European political cooperation ?
I artikel 4 i traktaten om oprettelse af et fælles Råd og en fælles Kommission for De europæiske Fælles­skaber fastslås det, at »Et udvalg, der sammensættes af Medlemsstaternes Faste Repræsentanter, har til opgave at forberede Rådets arbejde og udføre de hverv, der tildeles det af Rådet«.
Mr Charalambopoulos, President-in-Office of the Council of Ministers. — (GR) During the special partsession of 29/30 June the Council replied at great length to the question put to it by the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs concerning the progress being made in implementing the internal market.
Coreper er fuldstændig afhængig af Rådet og som en følge deraf udelukkende ansvarlig over for dette.
The only thing I would stress if that the Council has gone to great pains about this whole matter and will continue to do so.
Formanden. — Jeg giver hr. Alavanos ordet og vil bagefter overveje Deres tilfælde.
Mr Charalambopoulos. — (GR) Despite the fact that this question has nothing to do with the original question I will put down this matter for an answer myself.
Hutton (ED). — (EN) Jeg er formanden taknemlig for at give os den tidsplan, han har givet os, men som hans tidsplan viser, er Rådet ikke nået til enighed seks måneder efter, at dette forslag blev fremsat.
Mr Adam (S). — Not only have we made history today, as this is the first time that the Greek President-in-Office of the Council has appeared to answer questions — which I very much welcome — but we nearly made history by only managing to answer one question.
Kan formanden oplyse os om, hvorvidt han stadig håber på at nå frem til enighed blandt sine kolleger om en kontaktgruppe, eller må vi i Parlamentet blot opfatte dette som endnu et eksempel på Rådets manglende evne til 'at skabe et godt arbejdsforhold til Parla­mentet?
I am jolly glad that Question No 2 was called. I must apologise to the President-in-Office of the Council for the fact that my question took a long time to reach him.
Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Hr. Huttons spørgsmål rejser spørgsmålet om Parlamentets kontrol med Rådet.
Mr Gerokostopoulos (PPE). — (GR) Mr Alavanos put a question to which we would like you to give us an answer.
I denne forbindelse vil jeg gerne stille rådsfor­manden følgende tillægsspørgsmål: Hvilken kontrol har ikke Europa­Parlamentet, men de nationale parlamenter med repræsentanterne fra medlemssta­ternes regeringer, når der afholdes ekstraordinære møder og møder, hvor de nationale regeringer deltager, uden at de kompetente nationale organer, f.eks. parlamentet, kan kontrollere dem, rejse spørgsmål osv?
Other colleagues of yours who preside over this House have established the practice of accepting onjy one supplementary question from each political group.
Som konkret eksempel kan jeg nævnte erklæringen om den europæiske union, som blev udsendt helt uden det græske parlaments vidende.
You will recall that this rule was applied last week when Lady Elles was in the chair. Do you think that you too could apply this procedure ?
Charalambopoulos. — (GR) Jeg har taget til efterret­ning, hvad det ærede medlem har anført, og den væsentlige del af hans udtalelser vil jeg forelægge for mine ministerkolleger på vort første møde.
Otherwise, if we do not follow this extremely practical procedure, which is a product of the practical English mentality, there is a risk that only one or two questions will be debated at each Question Time.
Bonde (CDI). — Vil rådsformanden sørge for, at der bliver indført offentlig aktindsigt i Coreper?
I notice it says in the Commission report : one Member State this ... one Member State the other... two Member States have reservations on another point.
Det, der foregår her, er jo i høj grad egentlig lovgivning, som i medlemslandene er underkastet forskellige former for offentlig indsigt.
Would it help if the Council made it clear in the state ments at the end of its deliberations which Member States had reservations on these points so that we can identify them ?
Charalambopoulos. — (GR) Jeg tror ikke, jeg bør udbrede mig med et svar til hr. Alavanos.
President. — (GR) You are right in what you point out, but this system cannot always be applied because account has to be taken, on the one hand, of the political groups, and, on the other, of the nationalities.
Charalambopoulos. — (GR) Her ,tror jeg gælder det samme svar som på det foregående spørgsmål.
Mr Charalambopoulos. — (GR) In answer to Mr Adam I want to say that I will take note of his observations, and that I believe that at my next appearance here, or later perhaps, I shall be in a position to give him the information he has asked for.
Formanden. — Hvad angår det ærede medlem, fru Clwyd, vil jeg sige, at fru Nielsen, et kvindeligt medlem, har haft ordet, men hvis forsamlingen accep­terer, at hun stiller et sidste spørgsmål, skal jeg gerne tillade det.
Mr Gontikas (PPE). — (GR) I would simply like to observe, as regards what you have rightly said, that the right to submit questions belongs neither to political nor national groups.
Ønsker forsamlingen, at vi giver fru Clwyd ordet?
It belongs to the Members individually.
Værsågod, fru Clwyd, at stille et kort spørgsmål.
And I do not think any one of us is disposed to renounce this right.