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Derfor ønsker det europæiske folkepartis, gruppe, som er medunderskriver af dette beslutningsforslag, meget at det vedtages.
Rogers what is really happening in Turkey at the moment by going there, especially as the dictators would be running the show.
våbenstilstand, og vi må naturligvis alle håbe, at den fortsætter.
And in this we have to search our own consciences, our own political consciences.
Det betyder, at punkterne 1 og 2 i forslaget til beslutning faktisk er overhalet af udviklingen, i hvert fald for øjeblikket.
Those who belong to the right, those who believe in supporting military dictatorships obviously will not vote with me.
Hr. formand, det er en upartisk beslutning.
I accept this.
Formanden. — De europæiske fremskridtsdemokraters gruppe har ordet.
I could have all the powers of persuasion in the world, but I cannot talk to closed minds.
Beyer de Ryke. — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg er lidt uforberedt blevet bedt om at tage ordet for at tale for dette forslag.
But those with open minds, those who are prepared to judge these resolutions on their merits, I ask to vote against the resolution by Mr Bangemann and not to add any credence to the present régime in Turkey.
Jeg vil sige, at denne uforberedthed til trods har jeg personlig ingen vanskelighed med at gøre det, for hvad angår Libanon, må jeg sige, at her indgår hjertets sprog forbindelse med fornuftens.
I ask them to abstain, as I shall, on Mr Fanti's resolution, not because I am against it in spirit, but because I do believe that the facts-and-numbers game can be played with it.
Jeg tror bestemt, at man må præcisere de. ansvar, der gælder for et land og for en intervenerende part.
The same thing may well apply to Mr Pannella's resolution, although again I support it in spirit.
Hvis De tillader det, ville jeg gerne her knytte nogle bemærkninger til denne situation.
Finally, I hope the House will support the resolution tabled by Mr Glinne.
Det var netop Libanon han talte om. Jeg tror, at vi i dag i denne tragiske kakofoni, i dette blodige anarki, som gælder i den libanesiske situation, kan og bør have nogle ligefremme forslag, for vi kan ikke passivt se på et helt folks undergang.
I do not think it goes far enough in condemning the régime.
Libanon har længe været et eksempel på forskel lige samfunds og forskellige folks sameksistens.
The condemnation, in our opinion, should be total and explicit and should not offer any hope whatsoever that we may believe the assurances of those who have violated the will of the Turkish people.
Det har den, fordi Libanon først var offer for det palæstinensiske drama, og også, måske især i dag, fordi Libanon er besat af Syrien i skjul af den arabiske mæglings styrke, en påstået international styrke.
It should take a decision on suspending the Association Agree ment between the EEC and Turkey and should call upon the countries of Western Europe to cease send ing economic and military aid to the military régime in Turkey.
Men da Syrien selv er under russisk herredømme, kan man forestille sig, hvilket forfærdeligt sammensurium situationen i øjeblikket udgør.
What we are asking for is what Andreas Papandreou requested for Greece, and on this authority we are seeking the same for Turkey.
Hvordan skal vi komme ud af dette?
President. — I call Mr Nicolaou.
Og idet jeg tænker på dette europæiske element, vil jeg her sige, uden at have noget råd at give, at hvis der er en nation eller et land, som historien peger på, tilråder — og jeg vil endda sige i dag pålægger mere end noget andet at være på Libanons side, så er det Frankrig.
Despite our reservations, I repeat, we shall vote in favour of the Socialist Group's motion and, as a Greek, I call upon my colleagues in other parties to ensure that a consensus prevails so that we do not leave here today before we have adopted this proposal, thereby making it impossible for Evren to claim a victory.
Formanden. har ordet.
I call Mr von Hassel
Det vigtigste, man må forsøge at gøre, er at opnå, at Syrien i den libanesiske sammenhæng bliver diskvalificeret.
The same holds true for other Members, such as Mr Zighdis, Mr Pesmazoglou and Mr Kappos.
Jeg ved godt, at dette land vil bilde os ind, at dets tilbagetrækning ville fremkalde et frygteligt opgør mellem de progressistiske palæstinensere og de kristne, såkaldte konservative.
I am not saying this, colleagues and Madam President, to move you, but simply to let you see that we Greeks are in a position to know better than many of our colleagues what is happening today in Turkey.
Det er et helt fejlagtigt argument, som det internationale Fællesskab bør fordømme.
We are, above all, in a position to know just how unreliable and false the statements of the military régime in Ankara are as regards the so-called restoration of democracy.
Det er højst sandsynligt, at den syriske tilbagetrækning ikke vil få alvorlige følger for Libanon. Følgelig mener jeg, at dette forslag til beslutning kommer tilpas.
I don't believe that anybody needs to go to Turkey to find out what is happening there, as Mr Bangemann and Mr Habsburg maintain.
Det er moderat og under streger ikke med al den vægt, der kunne have været nødvendig, Syriens indblanden i Libanons indre anliggender.
It decided some time ago and confirmed here that a delegation would be sent to Turkey and that I had been appointed this committee's rapporteur on Turkey.
Jeg minder i denne forbindelse om, at Syrien aldrig diplomatisk har anerkendt Libanons eksistens, og at der aldrig, så længe dette land har eksisteret, har været syriske ambassadører i Beirut.
I have also been called upon to join the delegation. A mission of this kind is not intended — as Mr Pannella has claimed — as a means of defending the régime in that country.
Jeg siger altså, at hvis noget element udgør en alvorlig fare for Libanon, er det i øjeblikket den syriske besættelse.
I must also emphatically contradict Mr Rogers, who has unfortunately left the House now, according to whom the delegation will not have the opportunity of talking to a parliament in Turkey.
Jeg fordømmer den i min stemmeforklaring, men jeg glæder mig over, at forslaget er moderat, og jeg håber, at det takket være dette vil kunne nå sit mål.
That may be true, but our task consists not only in maintaining parliamentary contacts but also in investigating actual conditions on the spot. All the objections, such as that just voiced by
Lord Douro. — (EN) Hr. formand, på min gruppes vegne glæder jeg mig naturligvis over den fælles beslutning underskrevet af fem grupper.
(DE) In an age where we have mass media and world wide communications it is hypocritical to pretend that we do not know what is going on at the moment in a neighbouring country.
Samarbejdsaftalen mellem EØF og Libanon gør, at vi må være ganske særligt optaget af, hvad der for øjeblikket sker i dette land.
Moreover, it would be naive to think that as a member of a delegation from the European Parliament one could gain an objective view of
Kappos. — (GR) Hr. formand, med forbavselse har jeg netop hørt, hvad der er blevet sagt om palæstinenserne. Vi kan ikke på den ene side bekymre os om menneskerettighederne og samtidig undlade at anerkende palæstinensernes helt fundamentale ret til at have et fædreland.
Mr Chambeiron. — (FR) Madam President, the dicta torship has now been in power in Ankara for seven months, during which we have witnessed in this Assembly a series of manoeuvres designed, firstly, to prevent the justified condemnation of a régime which violates human rights in a country linked to the Community by an association agreement and, now, to have us believe that it is necessary to send a delegation to find out what is happening in Turkey.
Naturligvis modtager den libanesiske regering ethvert europæisk fredsintitiativ med glæde, og den vil derfor med taknemmelighed modtage Europa-Parlamentets sympatitilkendegivelse, men naturligvis sætter den et energisk diplomatisk initiativ fra de Ti's side hos de forskellige parter i konflikten højere.
the representative of Pasok — that this could be done from documents and other reports — ignore the fact that the opportunity must be taken not only of learn ing on the spot but perhaps also of having a delegation explain the views expressed by European parliamentarians this morning.
Som altid i disse tilfælde er Kommissionen rede til at intervenere med en fødevarenødhjælp, så snart den får en officiel anmodning herom af de libanesiske myndigheder eller af en humanitær organisation.
Mr Rogers's contention that we should be supporting murderers or a repressive government must be totally rejected.
Hvad siger beslutningen? At PLO's væbnede enheder skal trække sig tilbage, at syrerne skal trække sig tilbage.
No-one in this House, no-one anywhere in this Chamber, has any particular faith in dictatorships.
Og hvem skal så blive? Så falangisterne kan blive tilbage og med Israels støtte fuldføre denne plan.
I protest against the pretence that there are people in the European Parliament who side with the Turkish Government.
Der er desuden allerede en repræsentant for Kommissionen på stedet, hvilket vil lette tilrettelæggelsen — i forståelse med de libanesiske myndigheder og med de specialiserede internationale organisationer — af denne mulige og ønskelige bistandsaktion.
We have heard from the representative of the Greek New Democracy that the Turkish people are waiting for support from Europe in overcoming the desperate situation they are in.
Hr. formand, udover dette nævner beslutningen intet om Israels rolle.
I therefore feel we may be able to make a better study of the situation on the spot.
Formanden. — Forhandlingen er afsluttet.
We have reached a peak never before reached in this Assembly.
Vi går over til behandling af forslaget til beslutning. (...)
There is no need to go to Turkey to know what is happening there.
Man kan nu få ordet om stemmeafgivelsen. Hr. Marshall har ordet.
It is enough to consult the more serious press, whether it is French, British or German; and if you are not convinced by the press, there are official documents.
Hord. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil stemme for denne beslutning, men når jeg gør det, vil jeg gerne pege på, at den part, der er ansvarlig for fjendtlighederne i Libanon, er PLO støttet af Syrien. Jeg tror også man skal huske på, at det er den samme organisation — PLO — som Det europæiske Råd i sin Venezia-erklæring var rede til at anerkende.
I should also like to remind Mr Rogers that, for example, a delegation from the Council of Europe has visited Turkey.
Jeg mener, det bør noteres, at PLO ikke alene er ansvarlig for fjendtlighederne i Libanon, men også har svoret at ville ødelægge Israel.
Even the German Bundestag, which certainly does not number among those who support repressive governments or want to lend credence to dictatorships, has sent a delegation to Turkey so that it might form its own opinion in full knowledge of the facts.
(Forshget til beslutning vedtoges) (')
In this respect, there are absolutely no differences of opinion.
Marshall. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil stemme for beslutningen, men jeg beklager, at der under drøftelsen er blevet sagt en masse om de syriske tropper, men intet om PLO.
But what did the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe say last January? It noted that the principles of democracy are not being respected in Turkey.
En af tragedierne i Libanon er, at de PLO-terrorister, der blev jaget ud af Jordan af kong Hussein, har brugt Libanon som et asyl, hvorfra deres kommandostyrker kan angribe Israel.
It confirmed that people were still being arrested, imprisoned, tortured, that several cases of torture had been found, that there is defacto censorship of both the press and literature.
For nogle uger siden var en del medlemmer af dette Parlament på »den gode grænse« mellem Israel og Libanon.
So what more do you want? You know perfectly well that what the Turkish dictatorship expects of this Parliament is not a commission investigating what is happening in Turkey but a political decision it can use as an alibi.
Fjorten dage senere var den målet for et PLO-angreb, og det gjorde et stærkt indtryk på os, at nogle af de israelske børn og kvinder, vi havde set, var blevet angrebet, og at nogle af dem var dræbt.
That is precisely what the Turkish military want: they are awaiting this delegation from Parliament so that they can justify themselves within their own country and with international opinion.
Blandt andet kan det nævnes, at hverken ved Ministerrådet i Maastricht eller ved ener-
And that is the course you want us to follow, because that is the really logical conclusion to be drawn from your remarks.
En af tragedierne i Libanon er, at disse angreb på Israel finder sted med UNIFILs velsignelse.
In Bogotá, I heard Mr Klepsch and his friends coming out in favour of the dictatorship in El Salvador.
Nogle af UNIFILs officerer har i deres offentlige udtalelser været alt andet end upartiske.
Your remarks today amount to support for the dictatorship in Ankara. They are the same remarks.
Da vi var i Israel, påstod en hollandsk officer, at israelerne havede brændt ligene af visse PLO-guerrillaer. Israelerne opfordrede ham til at komme til et post mortern.
As always, you are following the line adopted by the American Secretary of State, who has just made a number of statements in the countries of the Middle East and waved the flag of tension and the Cold War, which was reflected yesterday by the aggression of the Israeli military against the Lebanese people.
Han nægtede det med den begrundelse, at det ville være partisk at gøre det.
That is where the truth lies : you are tagging along behind the American Department of State.
Jeg har aldrig hørt noget så tåbeligt.
You have no right to speak...
De, der har været ved »den gode grænse«, ved, at israelere og libanesere har en hel del til overs for hinanden.
Mrs Maij-Weggen. — (NL) I wish to point out, Madam President, that Mr von Hassel was not speak ing on behalf of the entire Christian-Democratic Group.
Der har aldrig været rettet angreb mod Israel fra Libanons side.
Presdent. — The Communist and Allies Group have the floor.
På den måde havde Fællesskabet, som er så utilbøjeligt til at tage fat på en fælles energipolitisk problemer, kunnet gøre de indledende skridt til en sådan politik, som dette Parlaments energiudvalg længe har bedt om.
Let them begin by defending the workers in their own countries before teaching us lessons in this Assembly!
Fællesskabets område; men vi siger nej, hvis det kun drejer sig om nationale initiativer, og ja, hvis sådanne initiativer kan betragtes som en forudsætning for udviklingen af et mere omfattende fællesskabsprogram.
I was elected to this place to defend the rights of the people, to defend the liberty of men, and I am not a hypocrite. You can speak presently, Mr von Hassel: we know you, we know what you are capable of in politics, and it is not worth your while trying to justify yourself in my eyes.
Og hvorfor det?
I will say it all the same.
Derfor udtrykker vi med det forslag til beslutning, som jeg har den ære at forelægge, vor store bekymring over for denne forholdsregel, som dog burde være genstand for en grundig undersøgelse foretaget af vort økonomi- og valutaudvalg.
They have told you that, and they have answered you by stepping up the arrests, stepping up the torture, stepping up the stifling of the most democratic liberties.
Vi mener, at initiativer af denne art for virkelig at være effektive ikke burde kunne se bort fra komplementariteten i medlemslandenes betingelser, og at de kun ved at gennemføres på fællesskabsplan kan udøve deres fulde effektivitet.
Party, to which I have the honour of belonging, and all the other political parties in Greece which recently lived through the tragic experience of the seven years of dictatorship, are extremely concerned for the Turkish people and hope for a swift return of real parlia mentary democracy and peace and order for the sake of the Turkish people.
Derfor bør vi efter min mening bekræfte, at Parlamentet tillægger spørgsmålet stor betydning.
Of course, one cannot say that in the recent past, prior to the abolition of the parlia mentary system in Turkey, there was an ideal form of democracy there.
Det drejer sig om et initiativ, der utvivlsomt er symptomatisk og i visse henseender ligefrem symbolsk, men som må medføre en overvindelse af de mangler hos Fællesskabet, som også nævnes i forslaget: det er derfor nødvendigt, at der fra selve landenes og fra Fællesskabets side tages de nødvendige initiativer til at udvikle situationen.
The European Parliament should not forget that under the so-called parliamentary system Turkey attacked an independent and sovereign state, Cyprus, where it still controls about half of the territory, with the result that there are hundreds of thousands of Cypriot refugees undergoing terrible hardships. As regards the proposal to send a delegation from the European Parliament to Turkey, if such a decision is in fact taken, we feel it would be useful to include in it representatives who have had special experience of defending human rights and individual freedom.
Jeg har hørt, at hr. Ippolito ville understrege sin afgjorte stillingtagen især mod metoden mere end mod selve indholdet, som — efter hvad han sagde — også kunne frembyde visse positive aspekter.
It says that we condemn the Turkish dictatorship, that we do not want this delegation to go to Ankara to give support, in effect, to a military dictatorship.
Det er i grunden dette, vi på en måde har villet gøre opmærksom på med vort forslag.
We want to break with this country, we want to come to the help of the Turkish people, who are calling for the restoration of democratic freedoms.
Efter min mening er sådanne operationer, som de er i øjeblikket, ikke forenelige; de vil kunne blive det på betingelse af, at situationen udvikler sig.
Mr Kappos. — (GR) Madam President, there is no doubt that thè American-backed military dictatorship in Turkey has established a violent and repressive régime there.
Ved denne lejlighed, kære kolleger, fremstår Fællesskabets mangler netop på beskæftigelsens, industripolitikkens og energipolitikkens områder — mangler, der mange gange er blevet mindet om — og der tegner sig et billede af de ansvar, de grunde og de udsættelser, som Rådet ved flere lejligheder har gjort opmærksom på, dengang man ville have de pågældende sektorer til at udvikle sig.
The number of arrests amounts to thousands, the number of trials and sentences, including death sentences, to many scores, and torture to the point of physical destruction is the rule rather than the exception.
Der fremstår også nogle nødvendigheder, som jeg ikke ser påpeget i hr. Ippolitos forslag til beslutning, der kun er kritisk over for det aspekt, som han har fremhævet, mens jeg derimod tror, at vi i vor egenskab af Parlament bør understrege den positive betydning.
The fact that a dictatorship came to power in the first place and is still there, has, in my opinion, direct consequences for the rights and freedoms of neighbouring peoples, and it is directly related to the problems of Cyprus and the Aegean.
Derfor behøves der initiativer for — som jeg sagde — at føre de omtalte operationer tilbage til
It was precisely for this reason that the Greek people, who had their own bitter experience under the
Diana arbejdspladser«, mens det første punkt i samme forslag på fransk siger: »som må kunne begunstige oprettelsen af arbejdspladser i Fællesskabet«.
Thorn, in the image of French Liberal traditions, as you were in the past — moderate perhaps, but Liberal — whereas now you are ready to do anything to back those who are opposed to freedom.
Nu synes jeg, det er meget vigtigt at få at vide, om disse arbejdspladser skal oprettes i Fællesskabet eller kun i to af Fællesskabets medlemslande. Derfor vil jeg gerne have en oplysning fra forslagsstilleren.
We know, Madam President, the attitude of the Bangemanns of this world, the hypocrisy, the Pontius Pilate attitude we find in certain Christians — 'let us stop and think, we do not know a great deal ...' — is that not right, Mr von Hassel?
Dette er ikke sket: fra den mislykkede anvendelse af Bremen-beslutningerne og fra den første oliekrise i 1973 indtil de sidste skandaløse fællesskabsbudgetter og Det europæiske Råds overfladiske og fortiende erklæringer.
The attitude adopted by the Common Market so far has been inconsistent: while it presents itself as a defender of democracy and free dom, it tolerates the cruel repression of the basic rights of the people of Turkey, a country which has strong ties with the EEC.
Det ville være absurd at prøve at nægte, at også de stærkeste medlemmer af Fællesskabet, som i dag er hovedpersoner i lånet, er uden ansvar for disse mangler: de er næsten de ubevidste ofre for den stagnerende integration.
And so things are going ahead as usual; there are plans to send a delegation from the Parliament to disguise the junta's intentions, and the EEC is content to sit back and take note of the false assurances which the military junta gives about a return to democracy.
Adonnino. — (IT) Der er faktisk en unøjagtighed i den italienske tekst. Den korrekte tekst er den på fransk, som tilføjer »i Fællesskabet«.
Well, Madam President, I shall also be voting for the resolution which bears the name of Eduardo Martino, although I would never have thought in the past that I would one day be voting in favour of a document he had produced.
Det oplyser jeg over for hr. Diana og mine andre kolleger.
I shall do so because I cling to that modicum of tradition in this Parliament which constitutes its modicum of honour.
Tomrummet med hensyn til fælleskabssinitiativer viser i dag sine højst alvorlige virkninger. Den situation, vi er i færd med at undersøge, er et signal, et yderst farligt signal, som viser, at det går den gale vej.
Madam President, first of all we are asking that no delegation should be sent to Turkey; secondly, we want the Association Agreement between the EEC and Turkey to be suspended and, lastly, we want Parlia ment to condemn the military dictatorship in Turkey.
Ikke blot er Fællesskabet ikke længere i stand til at gøre fremskridt — selv ganske små — men Fællesskabet risikerer beslutsomt, kraftigt og på afgørende vis at slå ind på tilbagegangens vej.
Furthermore, we support the Turkish people in their struggle to overthrow the dictatorship and to regain and secure their democratic rights and freedoms.
Parlamentet bør tage afstand fra denne farlige udvikling og tage initiativer sammen med Kommissionen til.straks at bremse disse tendenser.
All my votes will be directed against what you are trying to get us to do: help the torturers.
Det kan gøres på den klare og tydelige måde, som foreslås i hr. Ippolitos beslutning.
What is the financial protocol if it is not designed to give money?
Formanden. — Gruppen af kommunister og beslægtede har ordet.
President. — I call Mrs Hammerich.
Maurice Martin. — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne med et par ord nævne grundene til de franske kommunister og beslægtedes kategoriske modstand mod Giscard-Schmidt-lånet, som er en særdeles alvorlig handling. Den første grund til vor modstand ses i det forhold, at dette lån har som egendigt mål ikke at tilfredsstille de befolkningsmæssige eller nationale behov, men at udvikle kapitalistiske omstruktureringer.
Mr Pannella. — (FR) Madam President, I wish to give explanations of four votes.
Det betyder: endnu mere ødelæggelse, mere nedbrydning, mere arbejdsløshed.
I shall do so, Mr President, because it seems to me everything must be done, including the presentation of counter-arguments.
Dette lån er nye penge til arbejdsgiverne, for at de kan forøge deres initiativer og skabe mere arbejdsløshed.
There are good counter-arguments and others that are poor.
Vi siger nej til denne skandaløse finansiering af monopolerne i euro pæisk målestok.
Mr Calvez. — (FR) You sometimes leave the Chamber too.