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Formanden. — Jeg erklærer Europa-Parlamentets ses sion, som blev afbrudt den 27. juli 1984, for genoptaget (i).
President. — I declare resumed the session of the European Parliament suspended on 27 July 1984.'
Ganske vist kunne der være tvivl om artikel 17 i den europæiske menneskerettighedskonvention, men vi nåede frem til ikke at uddybe dette. Men vi tog til efterretning, at den socialistiske gruppe under henvisning til artikel 17 i denne konvention har stillet for slag om ændring af artikel 26 i forretningsordenen.
At its meet­ing yesterday, the Committee on the Verification of Credentials, mindful of its tasks as laid down in these provisions and anxious to see the powers of this Par­liament given as broad a definition as is possible under the existing legislation, expressed its regret at this fact and authorized me to put forward in plenary sitting, in the hope that the House would lend its fullest possible support, the demand that the Council lay down the provisions provided for in this second subparagraph of Article 138(3) in time for the next direct elections in 1989.
Formanden for udvalget til valgs prøvelse, hr. Rogalla, ønsker ordet for en kort redegørelse.
President. — I have received from the Committee on the Verification of Credentials a report concerning the credentials of Members which have so far been veri­fied.
Rogalla (S), formand for udvalget til valgs prøvelse. — Hr. formand, udvalget til valgs prøvelse har på sit møde i går prøvet medlemmernes mandater og støttede sig herved til de pågældende bestemmelser i forretningsordenen, især bilag V, punkt XVI. Udvalget har i tilslutning til sin meddelelse pålagt mig at henvise til artikel 138, stk. 3, i EØF-traktaten, i hen hold til hvilken det påhviler forsamlingen at udarbej de forslag til afholdelse af almindelige direkte valg ifølge en i alle medlemsstater ensartet fremgangsmåde.
Mr Rogalla (S), Chairman of the Committee on the Verification of Credentials. — (DE) Mr President, at its meeting yesterday, my committee verified Mem­bers' credentials, taking care to adhere to the appro­priate provisions of the Rules of Procedure, particu­larly Section XVI of Annex V. The committee author­ized me to refer, when you made the announcement, to Article 138(3) of the EEC Treaty, which says
Det ville afgjort møde meget kraftig modstand fra Det forenede Kongeriges side, hvis man f.eks. forsøgte at påtvinge et proportionelt valgsystem.
The Assembly shall draw up proposals for elec­tions by direct universal suffrage in accordance with a uniform procedure in all Member States.
I henhold til artikel 138, stk. 3, afsnit 2, i EØF-traktaten påhviler det Rådet med enstemmighed at fast sætte forskrifter, som det henstiller til medlemsstater ne at vedtage i overensstemmelse med deres forfatningsmæssige bestemmelser.
We then proceeded to verify the credentials and, apart from one point concerning France, found nothing out of the way to point out, relying upon Members' state­ments made pursuant to Article 6(1) of the Act.
Som De ligeledes ved, er dette ikke sket. På baggrund af sine opgaver inden for rammerne af disse bestemmelser og i ønsket om at definere Parlamentets beføjelser så bredt som muligt i henhold til de gældende bestemmelser gav udvalget til valgs prøvelse på sit møde i går udtryk for sin beklagelse over denne omstændighed.
Only one question gave rise to discussion — that concerning the validity of the election of Members elected in France on the list known as 'Front d'opposition nationale pour l'Europe des patries'.
Det har pålagt mig her på plenarmødet at stille krav om — hvilket forsamlingen om muligt bør tilslutte sig — at Rådet inden næste direkte valg i 1989 fastsætter de i artikel 138, stk. 3, andet afsnit, omtalte forskrifter.
The discussion could not, however, be pursued, because we are bound by the Act of 20 September 1976 to accept the elec­toral results communicated by the Member States and only to rule on any disputes referred to us pursuant to the provisions of this Act.
Hr. formand, jeg ønsker altså i form af et indlæg til forretningsordenen at gøre det fulstændig klart, at det ville være helt forkert, hvis udvalget til valgs prøvelse forsøgte at smugle et forslag ind ad bagvejen om, at der bør være en ensartet valgprocedure, som om det te var hele Parlamentets generelle opfattelse.
This the committee regret­ted, in connection with what I have just quoted from Article 138 of the EEC Treaty, but the committee found itself powerless to go further into the question of the legality of the election of these French Mem­bers.
(') Godkendelse af protokollen — Parlamentets sammensætning: se protokollen.
It is true that Article 17 of the European Convention on Human Rights might provide some basis for doubts in this connection, but after some difficult discussion it was decided not to pursue this point.
Formanden. — Jeg har fra de kompetente tyske myndigheder modtaget to anmodninger om ophævelse af
However that may be, we noted the fact that the Socialist Group had tabled a proposal to modify Rule 26 of the Rules of
Formanden den parlamentariske immunitet for Härlin og Klöckner samt fra de kompetente italienske myndigheder en anmodning om ophævelse af Tortoras immunitet. tet.
Rogalla so-called repentant criminal to send an innocent per son to penal servitude by treating him as a criminal.
dig ændring af den praksis, som Parlamentet plejede at følge i disse spørgsmål.
Procedure on the basis of Article 17 of this Convention. tion.
I overensstemmelse med artikel 5 stk., stk. 1, i forret ningsordenen henvises disse anmodninger til retsudvalget. valget.
Mr d' Onnesson (DR). — (FR) I wish to make a for mal objection against the presence at the entrance to the Chamber of the flags of the Chilean protesters.
Hr. formand, jeg anmodede Dem dengang om at hen vise dette til præsidiet til afgørelse.
Like many others, I regret what is happening in Chile.
Jeg vil gerne nu bede Dem oplyse resultatet af præsidiets overvejelser i denne sag.
I ask you, Mr President, to have both the flags and the protesters removed.
Tortora (NI). — (FR) Hr. formand, min æresfølelse og den værdighed, jeg føler over for Europa-Parlamentet samt den respekt jeg skylder — og altid har skyldt — mit land og dets domstole, tvinger mig til at bede Dem om ufortøvet at imødekomme denne an modning, som vedrører min person.
I decided to transform my own horrible experience into a struggle to change the laws in my country, into a struggle for those men and women who have been waiting for years for the elementary right to be brought to trial. This is the case of Giuliano Naria, a dying man, who for eight years — I repeat, eight years — is still awaiting trial in Italy.
Min sag har givet megen genlyd og været genstand for stor skandale i mit hjemland.
I therefore request, indeed I demand, that my trial should take place.
Formanden. — På sit møde den 25. juli 1984 fastsatte det udvidede præsidium det forslag til dagsordenen, som er omdelt.
Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I am fighting and I shall never cease to fight to obtain for each Italian citizen the privilege of respect for fundamental rights.
For så vidt angår tirsdag:
President. — Your statement has been noted.
Hr. formand, det medlem, som i øjeblikket henvender sig til Dem, er af en halv million italienske bor gere blev valgt som radikalt medlem som protest mod de vanvittige og barbariske love.
Mr Cryer (S). — Mr President, with regard to the report from the Committee on the Verification of Credentials, it would be quite wrong for this plenary session to accept that report as an expression of all the views of the representatives here in this Assembly.
Dette skete, efter at jeg havde tilbragt tretten måneder i fængsel.
The notion that this Assembly should impose its wish on the way in which the elections should be conducted would in fact be quite wrong.
Jeg besluttede da at benytte denne min grusomme erfaring til at kæmpe for en ændring af mit hjemlands love og at kæmpe for de mænd og kvinder, som nu i flere år har ventet på den helt elementære ret at blive dømt.
It would certainly meet very strong restistance from the United Kingdom if, for example, it was attempted to impose a system of proportional representation.
— Rådet har endnu ikke vedtaget budgetforslaget for De europæiske Fællesskaber for regnskabsåret 1985.
Your comments will be recorded in the
Jeg anmoder derfor om — ja, jeg kræver — at min retssag finder sted.
Mr Pearce (ED). — Mr President, I wanted to ask you the outcome of a request which I made at the July partsession that the Bureau consider the way that the proceedings were handled.
Jeg har ingen som helst grund til at skjule mig bag en parlamentarisk immunitet, som ville være ensbetydende med et helt utilstedeligt privilegium.
You will recall that I pointed out in July that this was a complete change of the way in which this House is accustomed to deal with these matters.
Hr. formand, kære kolleger, jeg kæmper og vil fortsat kæmpe for, at alle italienske borgere nyder godt af det privilegium det er, at disse grundlæggende rettigheder respekteres.
It was a change which had massive political and economic importance in that it provoked a major disturbance of public opinion in the United Kingdom and great contestation between the Member States.
Formanden. — Dette spørgsmål vil blive bragt op om et øjeblik.
President. — The question was examined by the Bureau which considered that the procedure followed was perfectly in order.1
Hvis der ikke er flere indsigelser, betragter jeg det som vedtaget.
Pursuant to Rule 5(1) of the Rules of Procedure these requests have been referred to the Committee on Legal Affairs and Citizens' Rights.
Pearce (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne spørge Dem, hvorledes man har fulgt den anmodning op, som jeg stillede under mødeperioden i juli om, at præsidiet skulle overveje, hvordan forhandlingerne skulle finde sted.
President. — At its meeting of 25 July 1984 the enlarged Bureau drew up the draft agenda which has
Hr. formand, De besluttede på plenarmødet at sætte budgetudvalgets afgørelser om overførsel af visse midler fra en budgetpost til en anden under afstemning under ét.
Petitions — Documents received — Texts of Treaties for warded by the Council — Topical and urgent debate (Announcement):see Minutes.
(') Andragender — Modtagne dokumenter — Tekster li! aftaler sendt af Rådet — Aktuel og uopsættelig debat (Meddelelse): se protokollen.
Mr Tortora (NI). — (FR) Mr President, my sense of the honour and the dignity of this Parliament and the respect due by me to my country — a respect which I have always paid it — and to its magistrature compel me to ask you to comply at once with the request concerning me personally.
Man kun ne altså på korrekt måde have rejst dette spørgsmål, da vi fastlagde dagsordenen. Jeg er følgelig imod, at vi ændrer dagsordenen nu.
At this morning's meeting the chair men of the political groups instructed me to propose a certain number of changes.
(Bifald)
Tuesday:
(Anmodningen af De March blev ikke imødekommet, og det således ændrede forslag til dagsorden godkendtes) (')
However, under item No 213 of the draft agenda there will be a statement by the Council on the budgetary situation.
De March (COM). - (FR) Hr. formand, jeg tager ordet for at tale for dette forslag om ændring af dags ordenen, eftersom jeg sammen med hr. Maffre-Baugé er underskriver af denne tekst.
The Commission has recently submitted to the Council a report on the situation and future of the Community wine market together with proposals for amending the existing regulations.
I juli 1982 ændrede Rådet i betydelig grad forordningen for vin, idet man især indførte prisgarantier og en sanering af markedet.
Basically the Commission is trying to make wine growers bear there sponsibility for the current budgetary difficulties by proposing a price freeze and the acceleration of grubbing up between now and 1985 of not less than 210 000 hectares of wine grape and table grape vines.
Disse bestemmelser har vist sig at være helt utilstrækkelige og uanvendelige: fantasifulde høststatistikker fra visse lande, en kunstig forøgelse af destillationer og især en manglende overholdelse af garanterede mindstepriser.
The Commission's goal is clearly part and parcel of the preparations for enlargement and it aims at eliminating part of the Community vineyards to make room for Spanish wines.
Resultatet er blevet, at situationen på vinområdet i vore sydlige områder er mere foruroligende end nogensinde med priser, som ikke overstiger prisniveauet i 1981. Desuden er den dårlige aftale fra 31. marts blevet forlænget.
I wish to inform the House that the wine growers of our regions who have been trying with considerable success, as the recent growth in table wine exports shows, to improve the quality of their vineyards regard the Commission's document as a serious slap in the face.
Formanden. — Jeg erindrer om, at fristen for at stille ændringsforslag er angivet i forslaget til dagsorden med undtagelse af følgende punkter, hvortil jeg foreslår, at fristerne fastsættes som følger:
In drawing up the proposed regulation which will be based on this document the Commission, we feel, should give serious consideration to the opinion of the Members of the European Parliament and the universally negative reaction of the wine growers and their organizations.
— for fremsættelse af beslutningsforslag om budget situationen : i aften kl. 20.00 ; for ændringsforslag hertil: onsdag den 12. september kl. 18.00;
Mr Cot (S), Chairman of the Committee on Budgets. — (FR) Mr President, with regard to the debate on the failure to present a budget introduced by the Presi-dent-in-Office of the Council and by the Commission, the Committee on Budgets requests that the deadline for tabling motions for resolutions should be extended by 24 hours, i.e. until 8 p.m. tomorrow so that the motions can be considered in the light of the situation which has recently arisen.
— for at stille ændringsforslag til Scrivener-betænk-ningen om dækning af behovene i regnskabsårene 1984 og 1985: i aften kl. 20.00;
President. — We shall come to that matter in a few moments.
Men nu er De allerede gået videre til andre punkter.
Are there any other comments?
Kommissionen har for nylig forelagt Rådet en rapport om situationen og perspektiverne for vinmarkedet i Fællesskabet, idet man har suppleret de eksisterende bestemmelser med forslag til ændringer.
I have received from Mr Maffre-Baugé and nine other Members a request, under Rule 56 of the Rules of Procedure, to include a statement by the Commission followed by a debate on the communication from the Commission to the Council on the situation and prospects of the wine market, together with a proposal for amending the common organization in the market in wine.
Vinavlerne i mit land føler Kommissionens dokument som en alvorlig krænkelse, eftersom de gennem flere år har bestræbt sig på at forbedre kvaliteten af deres vinmarker med mærkbare resultater, hvilket den senere tids eksport stigning af bordvine vidner om. Med henblik på ud arbejdelsen af det forslag til forordning, som skulle blive resultatet af dette dokument, bør Kommissionen efter vor opfattelse tage størst mulig hensyn til Europa-Parlamentets medlemmers opfattelse samt til de udelukkende negative reaktioner fra vinavlerne og fra deres fagforeninger.
If we now, as our Communist colleagues have just done, start asking, for the benefit of our statements to the press at the beginning of every partsession, for the inclusion of subjects which may be of public concern but which at all events disturb the order of business already agreed upon by the House, then in future everyone will be doing the same and I fail to see how any form of order can then be main tained.
Hr. formand, ti medlemmer foreslår derfor i dag en ændring af dagsordenen for indeværende mødeperiode i form af en opførelse af Kommissionens dokument efterfulgt af en forhandling.
Before putting this request to the vote I shall call one speaker for and one against the motion.
Pearce (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, må jeg på ny hen lede Deres opmærksomhed på, at der foregår en de monstration uden for mødesalen, hvor tre personer holder et stort flag oppe, som spærrer for indgangen til mødesalen for personer, som skal ind. Der er en stor transparent på tysk, som jeg ikke forstår.
I say once more to Mrs De March : It was precisely for this purpose that the institution of urgent procedure was created — that is to say, the opportunity to devote three whole hours on a Thursday to the discussion of topical matters. To be correct, therefore, you should have raised this question when we were fixing the order of business.
Klepsch (PPE). - (DE) Hr. formand, skal vi nu til at indføre en ny praksis i Parlamentet?
Mrs De March (COM). — (FR) Mr President, I rise to present this motion to amend the agenda since I am a cosignatory of the motion with Mr Emmanuel Maffre-Baugé.
Hr. formand, De blev anmodet om at undersøge dette. Enten er disse mennesker medlem mer af Parlamentet, eller også et de det ikke.
Deadline for tabling amendments this House.
Det er på tide, at vi får afklaret dette.
I have no authority to expel Members of this Assembly. . .
(Bifald)
(Applause from the far left)
Hvis medlemmerne generes i at komme forbi, så vil jeg endnu engang foranledige, at dette bliver un dersøgt, og at de pågældende personers identitet klar lægges; for jeg mener, ligesom De, hr. Pearce og lige som De, hr. d'Ormeson, at vi ikke kan tolerere, at personer, som er Parlamentet uvedkommende, de monstrerer her.
— amendments to the report by Mrs Scrivener on measures to cover the 1984 and 1985 budgetary requirements: this evening at 8 p.m.;
Le Pen (DR). — (FR) Kære kolleger, jeg mener, at det er Parlamentets målsætning på fredelig og velordnet måde at debattere konflikter, som netop sætter interesser, individer eller sammenslutninger op mod hinanden.
— amendments to all the items entered under urgent procedure (Rule 57): Wednesday, 12 September at 3 p.m.
Det er klart, at denne fremgangsmåde ikke kan om fatte demonstrationer.
Mr Cryer (S). — Mr President, on a point of order I wish to draw your attention to the wholly unfounded and dramatic terms in which this complaint was made.
Hvis medlemmerne ønsker at give udtryk for deres opfattelse, har de mulighed for frit at gøre dette i denne sal; men enhver vil kunne forstå, at hvis vi godtager, at der finder ret så spektakulære demonstrationer sted udenfor — uanset om det er parlamentsmedlemmer, der foranstalter dem — så risikerer vi, at demonstrationerne eskalerer. Dette kan kun være til skade for det parlamentariske liv og for den anseelse, som Parlamentet bør nye.
When I entered this Chamber, I was very pleased to see a demonstration about the death of Mr Allende in Chile under brutal circumstances, when the democrat ically-elected government of that regime was brutally overthrown.
Cryer (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne henlede Deres opmærksomhed på den helt ubegrundede og dramatiske måde, hvorpå denne klage blev fremført.
Mr Pannella (NI). — (FR) Mr President, I asked to speak a moment ago when you asked if there were objections concerning speaking time.
Det forekommer mig at være en fuldkommen misforståelse, hvis man forsøger at fratage folk retten til at give udtryk for deres bekymring over disse begivenheder, og jeg håber, at De vil støtte medlemmer nes demokratiske rettigheder, da det netop er disse demokratiske rettigheder, som så brutalt blev trådt for fode i Chile.
I should simply like to express reservations at the fact that the speaking time allocated to non-inscribed Members is not in line with the criteria in force until now.
Formanden. — Hr. Cryer, jeg vil gerne præcisere, hvad det er, jeg mener, Jeg gentager, hvad jeg sagde som svar til hr. Pearce.
President. — Mr Cryer, let me explain my position. I repeat what I said in reply to Mr Pearce.
Jeg sagde, at efter hvad jeg havde fået oplyst efter hr. d'Ormessons indlæg, drejede det sig om medlemmer af Europa-Parlamentet; jeg tilføjede da straks, at der absolut ikke kunne være tale om at udvise medlemmer af Parlamentet.
I said that according to the report I had received following Mr d'Ormesson's statement, the people in question were Members of this House, and I immediately added that there could be no question whatsoever of expelling Member of this House.
Castellina (ARC). — (IT) Da enhver form for parlamentarisk liv er undertrykt i Chile efter den tragiske begivenhed, som fandt sted i dette land for ca. elleve år siden, ønsker vi med vort initiativ at udfylde et tomrum i Parlamentet.
Mr Pearce (ED). — Mr President, may I again draw your attention to the fact that outside this Chamber there is a demonstration taking place in which three people are holding a large flag which obstructs the entrance to the Chamber for people entering by this door. There is a large notice in German which I can not understand.
Jeg mener faktisk, at denne årsdag er tilstrækkelig betydningsfuld til, at Parlamentets formand burde have åbnet mødet med at nævne denne dramatiske dato.
If they are not Members of Parliament, will you have them removed from the building? If they are Members of Parliament, will you please establish rules for this kind of situation?
Når vi derfor har taget initiativ til at minde herom, så er det kun, fordi for manden ved mødets åbning undlod at gøre dette.
If you permit this to go on, am I to assume that we could bring up 50 or 500 or 5 000 demonstrators? It is time we had a decision on this.
Efter min opfattelse kræ
There is in fact no obstruction out side the doorway.
Sherlock (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne i forbindelse hermed spørge, hvilke beføjelser De har
The report I have received indicates that the people in question are Members of
After min mening er en transparent ikke noget, som et medlem af Europa-Parlamentet normalt medbringer.
Huckfield that the work of this House takes place in a peaceful and orderly manner.
Vi må have visse bestemmelser for, hvad vi må med tage.
to you that that is a much more serious affair.
Når Parlamentet ønsker at give udtryk for sin opfattelse og sine følelser, så tror jeg, at det kan og bør gøre dette ad de normale kanaler som f.eks. fremsættelse af beslutningsforslag og ikke i form af demonstrationer. strationer.
Mr Le Pen (DR). — (FR) Ladies and gentlemen, it seems to me that the function of Parliament is to debate in a peaceful and orderly manner conflicts of just this kind, between different interests, individuals or groups.
Skal vi virkelig i det uendelige fortsætte en debat om et problem, som for øvrigt ikke længere eksisterer, eftersom man har ladet mig vide, at de omtalte per soner er forsvundet?
The present military regime can uphold its rule only by murder, torture and political persecution, and that, I think, is for us the main thing.
Formanden. — Hr. Sherlock, formandens beføjelser er ikke ubegrænsede, men han bør kunne påse, at Parlamentets arbejde forløber på fredelig og regulær vis.
The overwhelming majority of the Chilean people calls for a return to democracy; this call is reflected in the actions of Members of this House, and the attempt to turn our President into a kind of policeman to obstruct expressions of solidarity with the Chilean people should fill us with shame.
Staes (ARC). - (NL) Hr. formand, jeg vil takke hr. Le Pen for den interesse, han tillægger fredelige aktioner. Jeg håber også for ham, at det forbliver således.
Mrs Castellina (ARC). — (IT) Because all forms of parliamentary life were suppressed in Chile on the occasion of the tragic event in that country 11 years ago, we intend by our initiative to remedy a culpable omission of this Assembly.
Jeg kan til Deres orientering meddele Dem, at alle de, der deltog heri, havde ret til at være til stede, da de hører til Parlamentet eller er medarbejdere her.
I feel that this anniversary is sufficiently important for the President of our Assembly to open the sitting by recalling that dramatic date.