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Derfor stemmer vi imod den.
President. — The debate is closed.
Om udvalgets arbejde vil jeg gerne sige, at vi til at begynde med var skuffede over programmets ringe omfang.
If these regulations are to be adopted and be effectively implemented, then we must have regard to that, possibly by assisting these Third World countries to adopt techniques of detoxification of their materials in advance.
Men vi ved også, hvorfor det så sådan ud: en manglende realisering af et sådant program hænger nemlig sammen med, at den nødvendige finansiering ikke foreligger, thi det drejer sig her om ikkeobligatoriske udgifter, og dermed står der jo for få penge midler til Kommissionens rådighed.
If we do not do so, their economies may be very seriously affected and, indeed, we may well find ourselves restricted in the sources from which we can obtain animal feedstuffs to, for example, the United States, in which case we should have a single source of supply but one that was expensive in relation to the cost of materials acquired from the Third World.
I øvrigt med rette, Tallene tyder jo på, at hvalbestanden går kraftigt til bage, Derfor er det Europa-Parlamentets opgave at gøre en ende på situationen med »tomfiskeri«, så meget mere som hvalprodukterne kan erstattes af andre, ligeværdige produkter.
I think we would all agree on the basic objective of trying to ensure the maximum possible safety for con sumers of milk and other dairy products and elimination af any materials which might be injurious to their health.
Jeg havde i øvrigt stillet et ændringsforslag i den retning. Desuden anser jeg det for nødvendigt, at der tages diplomatiske skridt over for Sovjetunionen, eftersom denne stat ikke træffer nogen foranstaltninger til at beskytte hvalerne.
But I believe it is fraught with technical complications, and, although I support the proposal and am in no way opposed to the object of this resolution, I do think it is essential that the Commission, if this is
Jeg er derfor meget taknemlig for det gode samarbejde med Kommissionen: vi har arbejdet konstruktivt.
IN THE CHAIR: MR PFLIMLIN
Jeg er også taknemlig for udtalelsen fra budgetudvalget, der har foreslået, at der allerede i 1985- budgettet tages hensyn til dette program, Jeg vil også gerne sige, at Parlamentet med afstemningen i torsdags skabte forudsætningerne for, at finansieringen af dette pro gram for Parlamentets vedkommende er klaret.
Mr Mosar, Member of the Commission. — (FR) Mr President, first of all I should like to thank the various parliamentary committees whose task it has been to consider the proposals under discussion and, in particular, the rapporteur of the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection.
Forslaget om at oprette databanker over resultaterne af in vitro forsøg og over indsamlede toksikologiske oplysninger vil medvirke til at undgå unødige dobbelteksperimenter i alle medlemsstater.
adopted, should give the most serious consideration to its implications for Third World economies and the effect, too, on the users of these animal feedstuffs in Community countries.
Fastsættelse af fælles kriterier for vurderingen af farlige stoffers virkninger vil gøre det muligt at afslutte forsøg, når en konklusion er nået, og undgå en unødvendig forlængelse af forsøgene.
We need, too, to ensure that the checks car ried out in Community countries, whether at the port of entry or elsewhere, are genuinely and properly car ried out and not in the half-hearted and unsatisfactory manner in which checks are currently carried out.
Jeg er derfor glad for Kommissionens forslag om at forlange en langt større standardisering af kemikalier overalt i Fællesskabet.
Some deliveries are uncontaminated, and it is therefore quite feasible to mix deliveries with a slightly higher level with those where the level is zero so that the resultant level is considerably lower than the maximum of 0.2 parts per million aphlatoxin level suggested in the report.
Der er ingen undskyldning for et fremstille overflødige varianter af det samme ke mikalium i forskellige medlemsstater, enten med be skyttelse af nationale markeder eller med individuel industriel profit som motiv.
And whilst certain differences have emerged over the level of standards, I must stress that in the matter of principles there was a very large con sensus on the need to regulate the presence of undesirable substances in raw materials and, in particular, the presence of aflatoxin in plant-based products, because of the highly toxic nature of this natural contaminant.
På samme måde er det yderst vigtigt at sikre, at de testmetoder, der anvendes, især på dyr, standardiseres.
If, it should appear that that might be the result, we must take action to ensure they are assisted in various ways.
Kommissionen anmodes om at nedsætte en form for videnskabelig komité til at sikre, at dette sker.
I believe Parliament should adopt this report, but the Commission must carry out a most serious scrutiny of its implications in terms of the implementation.
Men nu kommer min kritik af Rådet.
What is needed is a check on all foods produced, not only in the factories but, most of all, on the farm.
Der har allerede været et uformelt møde med sundhedsministrene.
In doing so, I would like to repeat my appeal to Mr Mertens, which I made last night, that he reconsider the whole matter.
Principielt står der egentlig ikke mere noget i vejen for, at en beslutning kan træffes allerede i juni.
I find it extremely difficult to understand how the Commission can stand up here this morning and say that from listening to the debates they are more convinced than ever that they should go ahead.
Hvad indholdet angår, ser det ud til, at vi alle ønsker dette program, men det afhænger stadig af finansieringen.
The majority of speakers — in fact I think we were unanimous — expressed grave doubts about it. Please let us refer it back.
Derfor retter jeg igen en gang en bøn til EF-finansmi-nistrene om at sætte disse ikkeobligatoriske midler på budgettet, for hvad nytter er godt sagsarbejde, hvis pengene så bliver så knappe, at alt medgår til obligatoriske udgifter og der intet bliver til overs til de ikkeobligatoriske udgifter?
As to the more specific problem of labelling food for domestic animals, it should be noted that in the main the measures proposed seek to provide the purchaser with the information he needs on the composition of products. The labelling requirements for feedingstuff manufacturers are in direct line with the labelling governing foodstuffs for human consumption and should help the purchaser to make a better choice based on value for money.
Jeg er glad for at se Kommissionens forslag om ud dannelse af toksikologer.
If we went by arguments like that, we should defer all the votes until the next part-session.
Dette vil bidrage til at skabe en god praksis blandt toksikologer, der udfører dyre forsøg.
As to Mr Arndt's request, I should like to support the view that has just been expressed by Mrs Lentz-Cornette.
Jeg håber, at dette vil være et første skridt mod et europæisk register over laboratorier, der ud fører dyreforsøg.
For the many reasons I have given, the Commission asks Parliament to look favourably on these proposals, which we consider both reasonable and balanced.
Udvalget anser gennemførelsen af et sådant program for påtrængende nødvendigt.
Mr Sherlock (ED). — Mr President, attitudes to this matter in no less than three committees of this Parliament have changed within the last few weeks in a quite extraordinary and, in my experience, unprecedented way.
Vi har derfor i bilaget opført to ekstra punkter som supplement til de detal jer, som vi efter aftale med Kommissionen anser for nødvendige.
There have been significant changes of position and direction, with two commit tees still giving opinions very strongly against.
Det er vi i udvalget enige om og der var derfor heller ikke nogen divergerende opfattelser.
That will mean in any case that the vote will have to be postponed until the Monday.
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This is clear from Rule 85(5).
Hr. formand, et nyt EF-direktiv om dyreforsøg vil forhåbentlig fastsætte mindstekrav for laboratoriedyrs røgt og pleje.
No 2-326/281 well, that we should seek to bring these smaller species too within the ambit of the International Whaling Convention.
Jeg vil gerne have Kommissionens tilsagn på dette punkt.
We have asked Greenland to cease hunt ing the humpback whale and we also feel that the hunting of sperm whales in the Azores must stop.
Hvis det af en eller anden grund ikke er mu ligt, vil jeg gerne have en præcis dato for, hvornår dette direktiv vil blive forelagt.
We are asking the Faroes in future to stop hunting the fin whale, which in our opinion is taking place in the Faroe Islands under false pretences.
Det er måske uundgåeligt, at vor fællesskabslovgivning har bidraget til en stigning i antal toksikologiske prøver på mange områder, inklusive levnedsmiddeltilsætninger, apotekervarer, kosmetiske artikler og industrikemikalier.
A 2-22/85) by Mr Muntingh, on behalf of the Com mittee on the Environment, Public Health and Con sumer Protection, on the Community response to the failure of certain members of the International Whaling Commission to abide by the decision of the IWC to end commercial whaling.
For tiden involverer praktisk taget al toksicitetstestning brug af dyr i forsøg.
Third, we want an end to the cruelty practised on these animals.
Indtil nu har man langtfra været opmærksom nok på udnyttelsen af dyr, som også er forøget.
Gradually the European citizen has become highly sensitive in this respect, and for this reason we ask the Faroes in our report whether they cannot change or improve their method of hunting.
I alle tilfælde, hvor det er muligt, bør testning på levende dyr erstattes med andet. Der er et presserende behov for at afskaffe LD 50-tests og erstatte dem med alternative metoder.
In order to try to save these creatures at the eleventh hour, an international body has been set up, the International Whaling Convention, which seeks to take steps to protect whales from extinction.
Jeg håber, at Kommissionen vil sørge for, at det sker. Jeg vil også indtrængende anmode den om at inkludere forskning i alternative toksikologiske mid ler i sit handlingsprogram.
In July 1982 the International Whaling Commission, the executive body, decided to introduce in 1986 a moratorium on the hunting of large whales.
Der er både en økonomisk og en etisk grund til at reducere antallet af nødvendige eksperimenter, og det kan opnås ved at dele erfaringer og videnskabelig viden.
There are sometimes important considerations to be borne in mind, such as social and cultural factors in the Faroes, or the subsistence aspect of hunting in Greenland.
Ingen fabrikant vil foretage toksicitetstestning på dyr, hvis han ikke er nødt til det.
Japan, in particular, is ruthless in its exploitation of wildlife and uses all kinds of contempt ible stratagems, such as undercover whale firms in the Philippines, to achieve its ends.
For udover etiske overvejelser er disse tests dyre at udføre.
In my opinion Japan is a threat to the natural world at this moment.
Vi må sørge for. at denne særlige side af markeds-økonomien — den unødige vækst af handelshensyn i antallet af stoffer, som ikke er nødvendige for produktionen (de er kun meget lidt, om i det hele taget, forskellige fra andre) — bringes til ophor.
Hammerich toxicology in the European Community. This pro gramme is of fundamental importance for research but also for legislation, since toxicological investigations are coming to play an increasingly vital part in ensuring the protection of health in the workplace.
Elliott (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, her har vi igen et af disse velmente og bestemt meget nødvendige beslutningsforslag af en meget indviklet teknisk natur, der forhandles her ved afslutningen af en mødeperiode, og som det desværre ser ud til, at ikke særlig mange er interesseret i at høre om.
Nothing could be more incorrect, because this is commercial whaling which is regulated and monitored by the Faroese internal administration. Do not forget that neither the Faroes nor Greenland is a member of the European Com munity; the last thing they need is culturally imperialistic recommendations from the EEC.
Et af de problemer, vi er stillet over for her i forsamlingen, er, at der er en manglende interesse for nogle af disse meget vigtige, men indviklede emner.
In these areas there is still a lack of qualified scientific personnel but also of well-coordinated cooperation within the European Community.
Dette forslag til beslutning er meget nodvendigt. me get værdifuldt og indeholder nogle meget vigtige punkter, Jeg håber, vi enstemmigt vil støtte det.
In addition the European market should be completely closed against whale products and whale habitats brought under international control.
Kom missionen accepterer med glæde ændringsforslag nr. 2 og 5 — og jeg refererer naturligvis til ændringsforslagene, som de nu er nummereret — som opregner de enkelte programpunkter og vil blive inkluderet som bilag I til resolutionen.
Mrs Schleicher (PPE), rapporteur. — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection welcomes the submission of an action programme on
Det er vigtigt, at vi kritisk genundersøger hele toksicitetstestningsspørgsmålet.
As far as the content of the programme is concerned, we all seem to be in favour of it, but everything depends on the financing.
Det er yderst vigtigt, at de rigtige normer fastholdes.
The rapporteur was: — IN FAVOUR of Amendments Nos 8 to 10 and 13; — AGAINST Amendments Nos 1 to 4, 6, 7, 11 and 12.
Derfor må vi løbende være på vagt.
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Jeg er ikke specialist inden for toksikologi — jeg har al drig beskæftiget mig direkte med det — men jeg har arbejdet som levnedsmiddelkemiker, og derfra kan jeg nævne en række eksempler.
Once registration is established in Member States with certain minimum criteria, then each country should be obliged to accept products tested by registered laboratoires in another EEC Member State, as in currently the case in testing of technical stan dards.
Et af de mest rædselsvækkende, jeg kan komme på, er et farvestof, der i 1930erne i rigt mål blev anvendt i slik til børn, og som nu er kendt som et alvorligt kræftfremkaldende stof.
Furthermore, we should like to have a preliminary report every year, because we shall make our agreement to the budget conditional on the Com mission being prepared to do this.
Jeg vil ikke specielt fordømme de ansvarlige i 1930erne — de handlede i uvidenhed.
If we then find that there is no cooperation in this area, we may very well block the appropriations, because we do not want to release them in order to have them juggled around in some kind of way.
Men jeg me ner, at vi heraf må drage den lære, at vi må være yderst forsigtige.
The committee is agreed upon this, and there were no dissenting voices what soever.
I overensstemmelse med ændringsforslag nr. 3 vil Kommissionen forelægge sit årlige arbejdsprogram på dette område for Parlamentet og tager med glæde imod forslag angående dets virkemåde.
Mr President, a new EEC directive on animal experimentation will, hopefully, lay down minimum stan dards for the well-being of laboratory animals.
Sir Jack Ste wart-Clark rejste spørgsmålet om en evaluering af Pålideligheden af approksimative metoder til bestemmelse af LD 50, idet der bruges færre dyr.
The Commission will see from my amendment that we are asking you to forward, as soon as possible and in any case before our July part-session, the draft of this directive.
Det er allerede indeholdt i vores program som punkt 1.5, og vi vil gøre, hvad vi kan, for at fremme dette arbejde så meget som muligt.
I should like to have the Commission's assurance of this point. If for any reason it is not possible, then I should like to have a precise date when this directive will come forward.
Imidlertid er der en anden fare, vi må være på vagt imod.
Wherever possible testing on live animals should be substituted.
Vi skal sikre en korrekt og tilstrækkelig toksicitetstestning, men vi må ikke gå i den fælde at udvide testningen unødigt.
There is a crying case in point for abolishing L.D. 50 experiments and replacing them by alternative methods.
Jeg er enig i alt det, sir Jack Stewart-Clark sagde om dyreforsøg.
I hope that the Commission will ensure that this takes place.
De af os, der ivrigt går ind for dyrenes rettigheder, ønsker, at dyre forsøg begrænses absolut mest muligt.
I urge them also to include research into alternative means of toxicology in their action programme.
Formentlig er vi endnu ikke nået til det stadium, hvor dyreforsøg at enhver art og form kan afskaffes fuldstændigt.
It is per haps inevitable that our own Community legislation has contributed to an increase in toxicity testing in many fields, including food additives, pharmaceuticals, cosmetics and industrial chemicals.
En masse forsøg udføres på en inhuman måde.
At present virtually all toxicity testing involves the use of animals in experiments.
De kunne udføres mere humant, og hele dette område trænger til en kritisk vurdering.
So far not nearly enough attention has been paid to the exploitation of animals which has also increased.
Jeg støtter fuldt ud sir Jacks ændringsforslag, der anmoder Kommissionen om at fremskynde udarbejdelsen af det nye direktiv om dyreforsøg. reforsøg.
Finally, Mr President, I do urge the Commission to see that we do not in the European Community add unnecessarily to the burden of animal experimentation.
Lad mig så vende mig til ændringsforslag nr. 4 af sir Jack Stewart-Clark.
There is an economic as well as an ethical reason for reducing the number of experiments necessary, and this can be achieved by sharing experience and scientific knowledge.
Det er et ændringsforslag, der anmoder om et direktiv om dyreforsøg.
No industrialist will carry out toxicity testing on animals unless he has to.
Vi stiller os velvilligt til, at der hurtigt træffes foranstaltninger.
For, apart from ethical considerations, these tests are expensive to con duct.
Europarådet er i begreb med at vedtage en konvention i sagen.
The proposal to set up data banks on the results of in vitro experiments and on toxicological information acquired therefrom will help avoid unnecessary duplication of experiments in all Member States.
Vi håber, at den nu vil blive vedtaget inden længe, og måske ville det derfor være mere hensigtsmæssigt, om kommisioncn afventede vedtagelsen af konventionen, inden den forelagde et forslag til direktiv.
Setting common criteria for assessing the effects of harmful substance will enable experiments to be terminated once a conclusive level is reached, and so avoid unnecessary prolongation of experiments.
Selvfølgelig er en af grundene til stigningen i antallet af disse dyreforsøg, at der fremstilles et stort antal kommercielt forskellige, men kemisk identiske stof fer.
One of the problem we face in this Assembly is that there is a lack of interest in some of these very important but complex topics.
Det glæder mig meget, at sir Jack Stewart-Clark gav sin støtte til en indsats for at forsøge at forhindre den unødvendige vækst i antallet af forskellige han delsbetegnelser for medikamenter, som i virkeligheden er identiske.
I therefore welcome the Commission's proposal to in sist on much greater standardization of chemicals throughout the Communry.
Normalt blander vi ikke politiske argumenter ind i den slags ting, og jeg vil nødig gøre det, men det glæder mig, at det i det mindste på dette punkt erkendes, at vi er inde på et område, hvor
There is no excuse for unnecessary variations of the same chemicals to be manufactured in different Member States either for the motive of protecting national markets or for individual industrial profit.
Det er mig bekendt, at de af Dem. hr. kommissær, netop nævnte forhandlinger i Euro parådet den 2. maj ikke blev ført til ende, men blev
There is a need to ensure that no new materials are used in any applications involving human consumption without the most stringent testing and control.
Seibel-Emmerling undersøgelser, der på ingen måde tjener menneskets sikkerhed.
Schleicher, the rapporteur, and to Parliament for hav ing given thorough and rapid consideration to this proposal.
udsat på relativt ubestemt tid.
I can think of a number of examples of this.
Kan Parlamentet gå ud fra, at det af Kommissionens formand givne løfte alligevel bliver holdt?
I do not particularly condemn those responsible in the 1930s — they acted in ignorance.
Som formand for den tværpolititiske dyrebeskyttelsesgruppe i Europa-Parlamentet opfordrer jeg ind trængende Kommissionen til at overholde den frist, den har lovet gruppen at holde..
In line with Amendment No 3, the Commission will forward its annual programme of work in this field to Parliament and will be happy to receive suggestions on its operation.
Vi vil ikke acceptere det som nogen undskyldning, hvis Kommissionen af hensyn til Europarådet bryder sit løfte.
That appears already in our programme as Item 1.5 and we will certainly do our best to press on with this work as rapidly as possible.
Jeg mener, at det vil være forkert at sige, at sagen er blevet lagt på is.
But I believe there is a lot of unnecessary test ing. A lot of testing is carried out in an inhumane way.
Tværtimod håber vi meget, at konventionen vil blive ved taget i den nærmeste fremtid.
It could be carried out more humanely, and the whole area needs to be critically evaluated.
Men det er klart, at det er et af de forhold, vi må tage hensyn til i forbindelse med udarbejdelsen af Kommissionens forslag til di rektiv.
I entirely support Sir Jack's amendment calling on the Commission to accelerate the production of the new directive on animal testing.
Formanden. — Forhandlingen er afsluttet.
I now turn to Amendment No 4 in the name of Sir Jack Stewart-Clark.
Men med den mængde problematiske og farlige stoffer, der allerede er på markedet og i omløb, som skal un dersøges, og hvis langtidsvirkninger endnu ikke kan vurderes, bliver et sådant program først fornuftigt, når man forsøger at komme frem til ondets rod.
Of course, one of the reasons for the proliferation of these tests on animals is the production of very large numbers of commercially different but chemically identical materials. I am very pleased that Sir Jack Stewart-Clark did, in fact, give his support to action to try to prevent the unnecessary proliferation of these different trade names for drugs which are, in fact, identical.
Bjerget af problematiske stoffer må ikke vokse i det uendelige.
On the contrary, we hope very much that the convention will be adopted in the very near future.
Så længe de stoffer, der allerede er i handelen, ikke er udforsket, må det forhindres, at nye stoffer løbende kommer til og problemerne vokser.
But, clearly, this is one of the matters we do need to take into account in relation to a draft directive by the Commission.
Desuden skal det hindres, at dyreforsøg, der er en grundpille i toksikologien, bliver mere end omstridte, hvad angår gyldigheden og overførbarheden på men nesker.
Explanations of vote substances from being continually heaped up on top of that mountain, thus causing the problem to escalate.
FILINIS (COM), skriftlig. - (GR) Vi vurderer Schleicher-betænkningen positivt, og vi vil stemme for den, men vi vil gerne tilføje, at måske burde der lægges mere vægt på nogle punkter som:
Furthermore, we must remember that it is more than doubtful whether animal experiments, which are one of the cornerstones of the science of toxicology, are at all valid for human beings and whether the conclusions drawn from them are applicable to human beings.
Sir Jack Stewart Clark (ED). - (EN) Hr. formand, vi vil naturligvis stemme for denne betænkning.
Sir Jack Stewart-Clark (ED). — Mr President, we shall, of course, vote for this report.
Imidlertid vil jeg gerne vende tilbage til det, lord Cockfield sagde om Europarådet og udkastet til di rektiv.
I would just like to come back, however, to what Lord Cockfield said about the Council of Europe and its draft convention.