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Det er det, der er en fasevis åbning af markederne. For det er ikke de 100, man vil bevare, det er de 75, man ikke har, man vil erobre.
It is precisely in this field that the Community must, in my view, think ahead, not in economic terms or in terms of growth rate, but in terms of a new social patterns which will undoubtedly be spawned by the new technology and which our children will have to come to terms with.
Det er det, der fore­kommer mig at være problemet, når man ser på det rent nationalt, man lader sig forblinde af det, man
They will judge the European Community by its response to this challenge, and I hope will not find it wanting.
'grad, har temmelig høje inflationsrater, endda op til 20 %.
Mrs Salisch. — (DE) Mr President, I have very little time left to speak in this debate, as our speaking time has been almost used up.
Det fører i tidernes løb til, at realværdien af det, en rejsende kan medtage over grænserne inden for EF, til stadighed sænkes.
Nonetheless, I should like to comment briefly on Mr Leonardi's report.
Jeg ønskede ikke at påbegynde en udveksling af synspunkter med Rådet.
the fact that we are dealing with this matter at all — are promising.
Jeg var da helt indstillet på at tale efter hr. van der Klauw. Så kunne jeg være kommet til at tale to gange og alle ved jo, hvor glad jeg er for at tale.
I can also live with the motion for a resolution tabled by Mr Leonardi.
Formanden. — Der glæder mig, at kommunikationen mellem Kommissionen og Rådet er i orden til hverdag!
President. — I call Sir John Stewart-Clark.
Forslagene til beslutning vil blive sat under afstemning i næste afstemningstid.
I am, like him, a rapporteur on this subject, although I do not think I shall be able to tell you until the next partsession what conclusions I have arrived at regarding the likely effects of microelectronics on the employment situation in the European Community.
Vi europæere ønsker, at denne slags kontrol ved EFs interne grænser får en ende, og at der også gøres en ende på det forhold, at de rejsende skal stille sig op i kilometerlange rækker for at lade sig forhøre om den slags ting.
Sir John Stewart-Clark. — Mr President, we can only combat American and Japanese competition if we match these countries in technology, which means creating the conditions for large scale and competitive industry.
Vi ønsker derfor, at Rådet endelig en gang spekulerer på, hvad der skal blive af Kommissionens forslag.
If we turn to semi-conductors, today the United States has over 40% of the world's market and yet it produces 70% of world requirements.
Den har jo nemlig foreslået en passende forhøjelse af de afgiftsfri beløb.
On top of that, 25% of all European production is American-controlled.
Imidlertid har Kommissionen foreslået en forhøjelse, men Rådet har til dags dato endnu ikke reageret.
All the evidence so far points to the fact that process innovation is easily outpacing product innovation.
De rejsende, som hvert år i det mindste i forbindelse med deres ferie igen og igen skal stille sig op i disse lange rækker, får derfor også et tilsvarende jammerligt billede af tilstanden i et Europa, som oven i købet kalder sig »borgernes Europa«!
I am not trying to say that we should renounce microelectronic 'technology — which is undoubtedly a great challenge to us — but we must realize that, if we fail to intervene and control events, the working people of Europe will once again be left to pick up the bill.
Vort udvalg forventer derfor, at disse grænser for afgiftsfritagelse ved de europæiske interne grænser endelig en gang bliver ændret, således at vi også kan gøre noget for borgerne i Europa og ikke blot for det, der betegnes som det europæiske erhvervsliv.
I also wonder in what areas we can possibly make a breakthrough, in view of the fact that Japan and the United States now control more than 80% of both production and sales markets. Here again, we are faced with an enormous challenge to European creativity to compete on sensible — rather than merely destructive — terms.
Schinzel, ordfører. — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer!
We deplore the fact that public procurement in telecommunications is still virtually closed.
Det drejer sig på den ene side om, hvordan varer, som rejsende medbringer, bliver told- og afgiftsbehandlet.
Turning to the Commission's proposals, we welcome the fact that positive recommendations have been made.
I den forbindelse skelnes der naturligvis mellem varer fra Fællesskabet og varer, som medbringes af rejsende fra tredjelande.
It is the result of much hard work and I would like to say particularly how glad we are that industry has been involved throughout.
På den anden side drejer det sig om toldog afgiftsbehandlingen af småforsendelser.
The Commission recognizes that it has to be the catalyst but that it is industry that must decide.
På EF-plan bliver der altid fastsat et fast beløb i ERE, som bliver omregnet til de forskellige nationale valutaer.
However, we do recommend that the Commission staff should be strengthened in this sphere to ensure that its proposals can be properly followed up.
Da Kommissionen ikke kunne deltage i drøftelserne i økonomi- og valutaudvalget, har vi tilstillet den de endnu åbne spørgsmål i skriftlig form.
In discussing the question of microelectronics in this House, we should refrain from sinking into a euphoric trance of modernism-for-the-sake-of-modernism.
Det drejer sig specielt om, hvor meget de indtægter, man hvert år har af de rejsendes afgifter som følge af, at de over skrider de eksisterende grænser for de afgiftsfrie beløb, beløber sig til.
Instead, we should seek a sensible approach to this third industrial revolution, which is just around the corner and, in some cases, already upon us.
Vi har nemlig mistanke om at disse beløb på europæisk plan er forsvindende ringe, i hvert fald sammenlignet med de offentlige kontrolinstanser, vore 10 medlemsstater i Det europæiske Fællesskab hvert år hver for sig råder over.
In other words, our approach should be neither defensive nor aggressive, but sensible and meticulously planned, weighing up what consequences would ensue for the workers from specific policies.
Jeg vil være taknemmelig, hvis Kommissionen kunne se sig i stand til at besvare vore spørgsmål under denne korte behandling, således at vort udvalg kan blive klar over, hvordan det fremover skal arbejde videre, for for os — det vil jeg gerne sige som afslutning — er dette emne langt fra afsluttet.
Personally speaking, this brings to mind the question of shorter working time and co-responsibility, to ensure that the workers here in Europe will not be sold down the river when it comes to stepping up the introduction of microelectronics in the Community.
Kommis­sionen støtter fuldt ud økonomi­ og valutaudvalgets sysnpunkter, som hr. Schinzel har gjort rede for, og vi er, som jeg sagde til at begynde med, taknemmelige for hans støtte.
must therefore continue to encourage American and Japanese investment in the Community provided certain conditions are met.
Jeg modtog det lige før påske­ferien.
There has got to be reciprocity.
Jeg vil bestræbe mig på at svare ham så hurtigt som muligt, selv om det dog kan tage lidt tid, fordi problemet er indviklet, og dei indebærer, at der skal skaffes oplysninger fra forskellige kilder.
We, the Community, must be able to invest freely in the United States and in Japan if we are to give similar conditions to them.
Men det er et vigtigt spørgsmål, og jeg vil forsøge at svare ham.
We must encourage licensing agreements and we must encourage as far as we can joint ventures upon our soil.
Formanden. — Forhandlingen er afsluttet.
As far as the social side is concerned, in microelectronics today teachers are backward in the technology.
Forslaget til beslutning vil blive sat under afstemning i næste afstemningstid.
Equipment is insufficient in schools.
Vi afbryder nu vort arbejde og genoptager det kl. 17.30.
There are not enough technical colleges with microelectronics in their curricula.
Mødet er udsat.
This must change.
Beumer. ■— (NL) Hr. formand, jeg vil fatte mig i korthed.
Mr Davignon, Vice-President of the Commission. — (FR) Mr President, before I begin my speech I should like to express my feelings of regret and surprise.
Som det fremgår af betænkningen var økonomi­ og valutaudvalget fuldkommen enig om hvilke foranstaltninger, der ville være i de europæiske borgers interesse.
The regret is that this morning, during the debate on Mr Delorozoy's report, we were all of the opinion that the fundamental problems lay in the future and not in the past.
Vi er også kede af, at vi, skønt Kommissionen agtede at forhøje grænserne for afgiftsfritagelse pr. 1. januar 1980, stadigvæk snakker om det og at der nu, i 1981, endnu ikke er sket forbedringer på dette punkt, forbedringer som egentlig, som hr. Schinzel bemærkede, burde have ført til afskaffelsen af afgifterne.
It seems to me that this view is not wholly shared by all the Members of Parliament, since I see that only a faithful few remain to participate in such an important debate.
Kommissionens forslag er faktisk meget beskedne, og derfor synes vi, også på grund af den engelske situation, at de burde efterkommes. Men jeg tilslutter mig gerne hr. Schinzel, der sagde, at det ville være bedre at fast­sætte en ordning, der tydeligt ville vise borgerne, at vi lever i et Fællesskab, der har afskaffet den slags forhindringer.
What caused my surprise was that, after seeing Mr Van der Klaauw in the Chamber just now, I was looking forward to being able to make a number of points to the Council, all the more so because we have before us an oral question addressed to both the Commission and the Council.
Hvad jeg ligeledes synes er vigtigt, hr. formand, er at der gives et klart indblik i forholdet mellem de indkommende afgifter og de omkost­ninger, der er forbundet med dem.
Could it be because I had an opportunity to reply in the presence of the Council representative that Mr Van der Klaauw has left? . . .
Vi vil også henlede Deres opmærksomhed på dette, og vi håber, at Kommissionen vil give os et klart svar herpå, især fordi vi­principielt støtter Kommissionens aktiviteter på dette område.
This is a procedural question which the Bureau will perhaps look into, because in this specific case there is a question of equal opportunity which, in my opinion, needs to be checked by the Bureau.
Formanden. — Mødet er genoptaget.
President. — I call Mr Markozanis.
Jeg vil gerne begynde med at takke udvalget for den gene­relle støtte, det giver de forslag, vi har fremsat, og jeg vil også gerne bekræfte det synspunkt, hr. Schinzel gav udtryk for, om at vi ønsker et borgernes Europa snarere end et Europa bestående af separate enheder.
Firstly, we must stress the need for European cooperation so that technology can overcome the problems it is already facing in this sector.
Vi begynder med spørgsmå­lene til Rådet.
This is not, however, a recantation.
Da stilleren af spørgsmål nr. 47 ikke er til stede, vil dette spørgsmål blive besvaret skriftligt (').
The Commission deliberately wanted — and it can be criticized for this but it was a deliberate act, we did not do it because we were faint-hearted, careless or through an oversight — because we had seen in the past that proposals which were too general often failed, to remind the Council of its responsibilities in a number of specific areas.
Spørgsmål nr. 48 af Moreland (H­32/81):
I think that the three rapporteurs made it quite clear how risky this was.
Er Rådet ikke foruroliger over uoverensstemmelserne mellem de enkelte medlemsstaters politik for fastsættelse af energipriser?
The danger was that, having broken the deadlock on these issues in this way, what we had thus gained would seem to us to suffice.
Van der Klaauw, formanden for Rådet. — (NL) Rådet fik i efteråret forelagt en meddelelse fra Kommis­sionen om energien og den økonomiske politik, herunder særlig prispolitikken for energiprodukter.
I should like to reassure Mr Herman and Mr Turcat that the Commission has absolutely no intention of resting on its laurels once it has 'got its foot in the door'.
Da Kommissionen udarbejdede disse forslag, havde den kun dette mål for øje, og den tilsigtede ikke en yderligere udvikling af de pågældende fællesskabssystemer for at fremskynde vedtagelsen af direktiverne og forordningen ved at bringe disse i overensstemmelse med det gældende system.
Thirdly, in the case of such cooperation within the Community, it is essential, among other things, to organize a system of professional training which will take account of the job opportunities and the requirements of the European microelectronics industry.
Rådet har faktisk hidtil set sig ude af stand til accep­tere nogen som helst forhøjelse på trods af vore syns­punkter og på trods af det pres, Europa­Parlamentet
For that reason, I should like to call upon the representative of the Commission to submit to us a report on the above, taking account of the following:
Van der Klaauw opfordret Kommissionen til at uddybe behandlingen af disse problemer og til så hurtigt som muligt at forelægge en ny meddelelse om spørgsmålet.
Davignon joint financing with Member States, and to abolish the advisory committee as it stands at present, so that the Council cannot veto Commission decisions.
desværre ikke har ændret sig siden 1978.
issue which will enable progress and headway to be made on a number of questions.
Forudsætningen for, at der kan opnås en enstemmig aftale om de nærmere bestemmelser vedrørende oprettelsen af fonden, er således stadig ikke til stede.
It is certainly important for Parliament to react quickly to this type of proposal from the Commission because this shows that if the Council does not react or is slow in reacting, it cannot put this down, as it has in the past, to Parliament's lack of interest — a state of affairs which would enable the Council to go no further than a technical discussion stage.
Seligman. — (EN) Jeg er klar over, at den europæiske stiftelse først blev foreslået i Tindeman-rapporten med det formål at hjælpe de andre institutioner ved at sprede kendskab og forståelse, der ville føre til en større enhed i Det europæiske Fællesskab.
I can, however, reassure you that the Commission will do everything in its power to amend its proposal so that financing will become Community in origin.
I betragtning af den voksende skuffelse, der hersker med hensyn til Det europæiske Fællesskab, ville det så ikke være en god lejlighed og en milepæl for det nederlandske formandskab at sørge for, at der kom nogen fremgang i oprettelsen af denne stiftelse? Det ville være et godt minde om det nederlandske formandskab, hvis det kunne opnå dette.
The Commission will take pains to see that the advisory committee cannot impose its ultimatum on the Commission, and that it should remain as it has been described in our proposal.
Moreland. — (EN) Jeg vil gerne spørge formanden — og jeg vil gerne sige, at jeg for det meste glæder mig over hans svar — om han ikke er enig med mig i, at det virkelig er ved at blive en hastesag, fordi energiomkostninger nu udgør en stor del af de industrielle omkostninger og hvis vi vil have en ærlig konkurrence inden for Fællesskabet, må der være en slags fælles fremgangsmåde ved fastsættelsen af energiprisstrukturen i Fællesskabet.
I should like to thank Parliament for its painstakingness.,1 should also like to tell you that, on the subject of how our proposal on microelectronics could be put into practice, that is to say on the choice between Community financing' and joint financing on which during the various debates some of you have expressed reservations, it now seems to me that we can be bolder than we were in our initial proposal.
Derfor må der så hurtigt som muligt som muligt gøres noget, især med hensyn til de regeringer, der yder støtte til en del af deres energiomkostninger, men det ved ministeren måske selv?
Should the contacts we are now having bear fruit, then we will make an amendment to our proposal so that the part we shall finance will be exclusively financed by the Community in the future.
Synes ministeren ikke også,.at dette emne nu er kommet ud over undersøgelsesstadiet og at der nu bør handles?
This clearly shows that the method we chose was not such a bad one.
Van der Klaauw. — (NL) Jeg er helt enig med det ærede medlem i, at det er en hastesag.
Well, how did things go with the Council?
Men det er også en sag med mange sider — han ved det selv — skattetekniske sider og andre.
We started discussions, and then the Council said 'but these Member States have no programme!'
Det er ikke en enkel sag. Hvis den kan løses, må det ske på en måde, der er acceptabel for alle.
What exactly did this mean, that we should exclude them from the financing scheme or that we should invent a programme for them?
Van der Klaauw. — (NL) Jeg har helliget den europæiske stiftelse megen opmærksomhed, det kan jeg forsikre det ærede medlem om.
Mr Herman asked us why we had not adopted the Directive form, which is an instrument entirely in keeping with the task in hand and provided for in the Treaty.
Seligman. — (EN) Hvilke forberedelser træffer Rådet før Ottawamødet for at få klarhed over energipriser i USA, Canada, Japan og også i medlemsstaterne?
Accordingly — not because we were faint-hearted as he said, but because we wanted to advance by stages — we reached the conclusion that we had to show publicly to companies, to the authorities and to the outside world that something had changed in the field of telecommunications, which up to now has been an exclusive'preserve if ever there was one.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 51 af Hutton (H-735/ 80):
We said no, that for us there was no difficulty involved.
Vil Rådet nu vedtage forslagene fra Europa-Parlamentet ('), Kommissionen (2) og de tre vismænd (J) om at vende tilbage til afstemning i Rådet med fienai eller enstemmighed som fastsat i traktaterne, mens vetoretten kun forbeholdes væsentlige spørgsmål af virkelig national interesse?
We can modify our proposals, provided that the same broad sum is kept, that is to say that we should keep to approximately 50 million ECUs and that the proportion of assistance should remain the same, which means that we should keep to 50% from industry and 50% of aid from outside sources.
Jeg vil tro, at der som led i omtalen af den almene økonomiske situation ligeledes vil blive talt om energiproblemer i Ottawa, men jeg forventer ikke, at det specielle emne vil være genstand for særlige drøftelser i Ottawa. Problemet har snarere en fællesskabskarakter.
In its reply to Mr Delors' question, the Presidency referred to the four-year programme on computers, but did not make any mention at all of the programmes on microelectronics and telecommunications which aré now being debated, even though the programme on computers has already been decided upon and entered in the budget.
Formanden. — Da stilleren af spørgsmål nr. 49 ikke er til stede, vil dette spørgsmål blive besvaret skrift-
I therefore think that financing will be solely Community in origin, and I believe that this is a real step forward.
Van der Klaauw, formand for Rådet. — (NL) Det ærede medlem kan være forsikret om, at Rådet træffer sine afgørelser i overensstemmelse med bestemmelserne i traktaterne på de betingelser, der allerede gentagne gange er gjort rede for i forbindelse med spørgsmål, som forskellige parlamentsmedlemmer tidligere har stillet.
I should have liked to make a number of remarks on this subject to the representative of the Communist Party who explained how much easier things would be if we were working on a national scale, and who, nonetheless, took the same stance as the Council.
Spørgsmål nr. 50 af Seligman (H-672/80):
This is because she prefers speechifying to listening.
Hvis dette ikke er tilfældet, hvornår vil det da drøfte det i betragtning af, at det sidst blev behandlet i Rådet af udenrigsministre i december 1978?
I therefore come back to the problem as it stands, namely that we have to show progress can be made.
Men må jeg også sige ham, at jeg er noget skuffet over hans svar; hvis han ikke tager mig det ilde op vil jeg gerne spørge ham om, hvilken regering der i Rådet insisterede på sådan et tvetydigt svar, og hvilken der gik ind for et mere positivt svar.
This is the drift of my statement which will prevent the specialists from hiding behind the excuse that there is a lack of political guidance or that there are no directives being issued by ministers.
Må jeg spørge ham, om han måske kan give os et svar på den direkte og åbenhjertige måde, vi er kommet til at forvente os af ham?
This is why I wish to restate that a process which tends towards including us in the decisionmaking mechanism is a positive achievement.
Van der Klaauw. — (NE) Jeg kan, som formand for Rådet, selvfølgelig ikke fortælle, hvordan landet ligger mellem de forskellige medlemsstater med
There is another concern which I can understand as being uppermost in Members' minds, and that is to wonder whether the procedures we are now establishing do not grant excessive power to the Council.
Spørgsmålet blev atter rejst på samlingen den 15. og 16. december 1980.
This raises the old problem of the advisory commit tees.
Formanden. — Da spørgeren ikke er til stede, vil spørgsmål nr. 52 blive besvaret skriftligt (').
With the best will in the world, on prob­lems such as this legal action takes 18 months to two years.
Spørgsmål nr. 53 af Balfe (H-18/81) (2):
It is quite obvious that they give in.
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market represents 100.
I december 1980 fremsatte jeg en skriftlig forespørgsel (1754/80) (J) om et tysk registreret lotteri, som sælger lodsedler pr. post i Det forenede Kongerige, hvilket er ulovligt.
But the fact is that because these markets are broken up, the total market is not 100 + 75 but perhaps 250 for other sorts of equipment which will only be obtainable from the United States or from Japan. Therefore, the real size of the market is 250.
Kommissionen har svaret, at dette falder uden for Fællesskabernes kompetenceområde, men bør følges op af diplomatiske initiativer mellem udenrigsministrene.
Industrial cooperation would mean that opening up markets would rid companies of this fear of losing their market for 100 items, and would move into the new market of 175, which will no longer be restricted to its country of origin.
Da salg af lotterisedler er handel, er Rådet da enig i, at der er visse aspekter af den fri bevægelighed for varer, som ikke falder ind under Fællesskabernes kompetence område, og vil de fastsætte, hvilke aspekter det drejer sig om?
This is perfectly possible, and it is perfectly possible to launch projects of this nature within the framework of indus­trial cooperation.
Van der Klaauw. — (NL) Nej, sådan er det ikke.
This is phased opening up of markets.
Sædets placering bestemmes på et møde af regerings repræsentanterne, der skal tage en enstemmig beslutning. ning.
It does not mean keeping the 100 we have at all costs but rather working to obtain the 75 we do not yet have.
Van der Klaauw, formand for Rådet. — (NL) Det tilkommer ikke Rådet at vurdere Kommissionens svar på et spørgsmål, stillet af et parlamentsmedlem, lige så lidt som det tilkommer Rådet at kommentere den fortolkning, som det ærede parlamentsmedlem selv synes at give dette svar.
A policy of this nature, in a field in which change is so radical and where the aim of industrial strategy would be the safeguarding of existing markets whilst the world market is expanding, would mean a drop in the relative size of our market share.
Det er i øvrigt ikke Rådets opgave på det abstrakte plan at tage stilling til række vidden af denne eller hin bestemmelse i fællesskabs retten.
This is exactly the type of failure which awaits us if we continue pursuing this policy.
Under forudsætning af, at de pågældende lotteriselder skulle være varer, importeret i Det forenede Kongerige, kunne det ærede parlamentsmedlems opmærksomhed imidlertid henledes på bestemmelserne i artikel 36 i traktaten om oprettelse af EØF.
This is why the Commission feels that the proposals it has presented, which are, I must repeat, incomplete, have only been presented in order to focus attention on the above fact.