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Dermed foreligger en klar overskridelse af Rom­traktaten, hvorefter Parlamentet alene skal høres og udtale sig, og det er herefter helt overladt til Kommissionen og Rådet at afgøre, om de vil tage hensyn til Parlamentets holding.
That is the question which I ask myself and, in conclusion, it seems to me that if we had followed the same approach to Greece the Colonels might still be there.
Andriessen, medlem af Kommissionen. — (NL) Ifølge artiklerne i de forskellige traktater — artikel 42 i
Finally, I should like to thank Mrs Hammerich for her most forthcoming attitude towards the prerogatives of the Commission.
Megahy sionen erkender denne tingenes tilstand, og at den som traktaternes vogter vil tage ethvert skridt til at sikre, at Parlamentet ikke tiltager, sig nogen beføjelser, som ikke klart er tillagt det?
But if there is nothing in the regulation about its being forbidden to keep elephants in the cellar, that does not mean you can assume that it is permitted to keep elephants in the cellar.
Harris. — (EN) Erkender Kommissionen, at den negative holdning,, som fru Hammerich og hendes ligesindede markedsmodstandere indtager, ikke repræsenterer flertallet af medlemmernes synspunkt, og er den klar over, at de fleste af os betragter denne udvikling som et af de mest betydningfulde og rimelige skridt på vejen til at gøre Parlamentet til en magt faktor, der må regnes med, særlig i dets rolle som en konstruktiv kontrollør af Kommissionen?
Therefore, I should like to ask Mr Andriessen what authority can be accorded these Rules of Procedure, which allow resolutions — which, according to the Treaties, have to be adopted by Parliament assembled in plenary sitting — to be adopted in future by committees, on some of which, moreover, not all the nationalities belonging to the Community are represented. One last question: Will the Commission regard resolutions adopted by a committee as valid?
Andriessen. — (NL) Tillad mig ikke i denne spørgetid at tage forskud på forhandlinger, som vi skal have i Parlamentet om forholdene mellem Kommissionen, Parlamentet og de andre institutioner.
Mrs Hammerich. — (DA) Thank you for your answer, which I do not, however, think was terribly clear, so I ask you again: How does the Commission intend to discharge its obligations as the guardian of the Treaty in this matter?
Lad mig på dette stadium i drøftelsen nøjes med at sige, at jeg mere ser bestemmelserne i forretningsordenen som en optimalisering af Parlamentets beføjelser end som en udhuling af andre institutioners beføjelser.
We know from the press that concern has been felt by Members of the Commission and in the Council of Ministers because in this way, Parliament, by taking the law into its own hands, is exceeding its powers and seeking not only to be consulted but, by means of delaying tactics, to assume a negotiating position.
Andriessen. — (NL) Jeg gjorde det i mit første svar klart, at Kommissionen meget vel er klar over, at flertallet i Parlamentet ønskede disse ændringer, og at Kommissionen gerne er parat til i en konstruktiv ånd at gå ind på de af Parlamentet her skabte muligheder og beføjelser.
It has been stated in the press that one of the Commission's Members has called the new Rules of Procedure ...
Formanden:. — Spørgsmål nr. 4 af Davern (H-181/ 81):
(The President asked the speaker to proceed to her ques tion)
Et sidste tillægsspørgsmål: Vil Kommissionen anse beslutninger truffet af et udvalg som gyldige?
My question is this: What do you think about the fact that one of the Members of the Commission is alleged to have said that the new Rules of Procedure verge on incompatibility with the Treaty?
I sit svar af 14. juli 1980 på min forespørgsel nr. 1891/79 (') om Fællesskabets overskud af landbrugsvarer udtalte Kommissionen, at »visse erstatningsprodukter, bl.a. maniok, konkurrerer med Fællesskabets korn, især byg og hvede til foderbrug, på en måde, der giver anledning til uro«.
Mr Andriessen.' — (NL) There is no objection whatever to taking account of such committee resolutions in the general procedure.
Kommissionen oplyste desuden, at den havde indledt forhandlinger med Thailand, der er verdens største maniokeksportør, for at få fastlagt et loft for eksporten, og at Rådet havde anmodet den om at forhandle med andre maniokeksportører.
Although the Treaties state that Parliament can adopt resolutions, this in' practice is by no means an obstacle to consultations between the Commission and Parliament.
Kan Kommissionen oplyse, hvilke resultater der er opniet siden da?
I believe this is frequently the case, and I hope it is done to Parlia ment's satisfaction.
Andriessen. — (NL) Der er overhovedet ingen indvendinger imod at tage hensyn til hele denne procedure med beslutninger. I traktaterne står der, at Parlamentet kan vedtage beslutninger.
Mr Paisley. — Would the Commissioner simply confirm or deny that this Assembly has no more real power than it had when it was a non-elected nominated body, and can it have any more power except the Treaty.be amended?
Thorn, formand for Kommissionen. — (FR) I november 1980 enedes Kommissionen med den thailandske regering om et udkast til aftale om selvbegrænsning med henblik på stabilisering af maniokudførslerne til Fællesskabet.
Mr Andriessen. — (NL) If I have understood the question correctly, I can only say that there was a clear majority decision on this aspect of the Rules of Procedure and the Commission believes that the provisions of those rules as such are not incompatible with the Treaty but that use of this specific provision might lead to such incompatibility.
På grundlag af dette udkast til aftale har Rådet bemyndiget Kommissionen til at indlede forhandlinger med de andre leverandører.
I referred to that point a moment ago, but until this actually happens there is no problem for the Commission as the guardian of the Treaties.
Andriessen. — (NL) Ganske kort: det kan jeg ikke bekræfte.
(NL) In a word, I cannot confirm
Den bemærkning er jeg ikke enig i.
Mr Andriessen. that.
Formanden. — Hr. Davern, svaret på Deres anden bemærkning er, at jeg ingenting hørte.
Mr Patterson. — Would the Commission on the contrary agree that what' Mrs Hammerich calls a greater degree of authority by Parliament is wholly to be welcomed as making the European Community more democratic?
Patterson. — (EN) Er Kommissionen tværtimod ikke enig i, at det, som fru Hammerich kalder en højere grad af magt for Parlamentet, er fuldt ud ønskeligt som noget, der gør Det europæiske Fællesskab mere demokratisk?
Mr Megahy. — In relation to the reply which has just been given, could we have an assurance from the Commission that they fully recognize that, whilst it is very difficult for Parliament itself to secure amend ments to the Treaty with regard to increased powers, the strategy that is continually being pursued in this House is to try to get more power for the Parliament by extending the Rules of Procedure, the passing of resolutions, and so on?
Vil Kommissionen nu drage generelle konklusioner ud fra disse ændringer i forretningsordenen og generelt forpligte sig, således at når Parlamentet forkaster et forslag, tager Kommissionen det tilbage, og når Parlamentet ændret et forslag, accepterer Kommissionen disse ændringer?
Could we have an assurance that the Commission recognizes this state of affairs and that it will take all steps, as guardian of the Treaty, to ensure that Parliament does not usurp any powers that are not clearly given to it?
Davern. — (EN) Det blev råbt meget tydeligt igennem salen. Jeg kunne høre det, og jeg er sikker på, at en masse andre medlemmer også kunne høre det.
Mr Andriessen. — (NL) My answer to the first ques tion is yes.
Andriessen. — (NL) Det første spørgsmål besvarer jeg bekræftende.
Mr Andriessen. — (NL) I am sure you will bear with me in my wish not to pre-empt during Question Time the debates which we are to have on relations between the Commission, the Parliament and the other institu tions.
Det andet kan komme på dagsordenen under den institutionelle drøftelse, som vi skal have i denne uge.
Mr Bonde. — (DA) Mr President, if it is stated in a police regulation that it is forbidden to keep cows in
Det er stadig Kommissionens opfattelse.
Debates of the European Parliament
Hvad angår Deres første bemærkning, ønsker jeg korte svar fra Kommissionen.
On the first statement that you made, I would like brief answers from the Commission.
Hvis medlemmerne ønsker detaljerede svar på komplicerede spørgsmål, har de andre muligheder som f.eks. at stille en skriftlig forespørgsel.
If Members want detailed answers on complicated questions, there are other courses of action open to them, such as, for example, submitting a written question.
Det fremgår ganske klart af forretningsordenen.
The Rules of Procedure make this quite clear.
Men det er klart, at det er et forhold, som Kommissionens opmærksomhed er henledt på.
On 4 July 1980, the Commission stated, in reply to my question No 1891/791on Community agricultural surplus, 'that some substitute products, particularly manioc, offered disquieting competition to Community cereals, especially fodder, wheat and barley.'
Det er en faktor, når man ser på arbejdsløsheden, og Kommissionen har tilkendegivet sin opfattelse.
Further more, the Commission stated that it had staned negotiations with Thailand, the world's principal exporter, for the adoption of a ceiling on exports and that it had been asked by the Council to negotiate with other manioc exporters.
Men med hensyn til faktisk at udsende en slags direktiv til medlemsstaterne — nej, det tror jeg ikke er vort ansvar.
Can the Commission state what results have since been achieved?
Davern. — (EN) Sidste år havde Thailand den største maniokproduktion nogen sinde — over otte mio. t. Jeg forstår, at man nu har forhandlet sig frem til en grænse på fem mio. t, som er Thailands gennemsnit lige årsproduktion.
Mr Davern. — Last year, Thailand had its highestever production of manioc — over eight million tonnes. A limit of five million tonnes, which is the average annual production of ' Thailand, has now, I understand, been negotiated.
De selskaber, der kontrollerer denne eksport fra Thailand, herunder skibstransporten, er fem hollandske og fem tyske selskaber, der ikke har kunnet opnå nogen aftale med den thailandske regering.
The companies controlling these exports from Thailand, including the shipping arrangements, are five Dutch and five German companies, which have failed to reach agreement with the Thai Government.
De har faktisk gjort brug af trusler mod den thailandske regering, ligesom de har udnyttet det forhold, at de aftager 85 % af maniokeksporten, til at hindre thailandske nationale selskaber i selv at have denne eksport.
In fact, they have brought threats to bear on the Thai Govern ment, as well as exploiting the fact that they are taking 85% of its manioc exports, to stop the Thai national companies themselves from having these exports.
Kan vi på denne baggrund nogen sinde få en olie- og fedtstofpolitik i Fællesskabet?
In view of all these facts, can we ever have an oil-and-fats policy in this Community?
Thorn. — (FR) Jeg har intet kendskab til det, det ærede medlem siger.
Mr Thorn. — (FR) I have not been informed of the facts to which the Honourable Member refers.
Efter at have spurgt mine medarbejdere var jeg nærmest til sinds at ville besvare hans spørgsmål negativt, men der er mig intet bekendt om de trusler, han talte om.
After consulting my colleagues I would tend to give a negative reply to his question, but I know nothing about these threats.
I øvrigt kunne det ikke fremgå af det spørgsmål, der var stillet til mig.
Moreover, they were not apparent from the question put to me.
Boyes. — (EN) En vis hr. Heath, der engang var premierminister i Det forenede Kongerige, indtil han udfordrede de britiske minearbejdere, advarede i sidste uge om, at hvis der ikke straks blev indført foranstaltninger til at nedsætte arbejdsløsheden, særlig blandt unge, kunne det have alvorlige følger, herunder social uro.
Mr Thorn, President of the Commission. — (FR) In November 1980, the Commission concluded a draft self-limitation agreement with the Thai Government with a view to stabilizing manioc exports to the Community.
Hr. formand, man spørger mig, hvilke resultater der indtil nu er opnået. Vore tjenestegrene meddeler mig, at der på den ene side er aftalen om selvbegrænsning, og at på den anden side forhandlingerne er i gang.
Mr President, I had been asked what results have since been achieved and our departments informed me that there is a self-limitation agreement and that other negotiations are continuing.
Nu fortæller man mig noget om visse eksportørers rolle.
Reference has now been made to the rôle of certain exporters.
Jeg tror, at simpel ærlighed kræver, at jeg siger, at jeg ikke er au courant.
In all honesty, I must say that I am not aware of this problem.
Richard. — (EN) Man stillede mig et spørgsmål om sort økonomi.
President. — Question (H-182/81):
Man beder mig nu på stående fod fore lægge samtlige Kommissionens forslag til at imødegå arbejdsløshedssituationen i Fællesskabet.
Mr Davern. — First of all, Mr President, you remarked that you were delighted that the President of the Commission was giving brief replies.
Det ville jeg med glæde gøre, men jeg tror virkelig ikke, at dette er tiden eller stedet, og jeg har heller ikke den tilstrækkelige tid til det.
I would like to disagree with that remark. I think it is the essence of Question Time that replies should be detailed and clearly formulated.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 5 af Flanagan (H-182/ 81):
My second point, Mr President, refers to the language used by Lord O'Hagan shouting across to Mr Megahy.
Kan Kommissionen oplyse, om den har nogen løsning på problemet med arbejdstagere, der officielt er registreret som arbejdsløse, men som ikke desto mindre har deltidseller fuldtidsarbejde og dermed misbruger bide skattesystemet og det sociale velfærdssystem?
Can the Commission state whether or not it has any solution to the problem of people who are officially registered as unemployed but who work either part-time or full-time, thereby abusing both the taxation system and the social welfare system?
Til det generelle spørgsmål, som det ærede medlem rejste.
President. — Mr Davern, in answer to your second point, I did not hear anything.
Han spurgte, om jeg ville bekræfte det, hr. Heath sagde.
Mr Davern. — It was shouted very clearly across this House.
Richard, medlem af Kommissionen. — (EN) Overvågningen af medlemsstaternes sociale sikringssystem er medlemsstaternes ansvar.
Mr Richard, Member of the Commission, -r- The super vision of Member States' social security systems is the responsibility of the Member States.
Jeg tror, vi skal prøve at sætte dette spørgsmål i perspektiv på en eller anden måde.
We should, I think, try and get this issue into some kind of perspective.
Pr. definition er der kun få direkte beviser på dets omfang, men det er Kommissionens opfattelse, at selv om spørgsmålet er alvorligt, har det ikke højeste prioritet.
By definition there is little direct evidence of its extent, but the Commission takes the view that the problem, while serious, is not of the highest priority.
Alligevel gav Kommissionen i det dokument, der blev forelagt det stående udvalg for beskæftigelsen på dets møde den 19. maj i år, udtryk for den opfattelse, at medlemsstaterne bør »overvåge deres socialforsorgspolitik med henblik på at undgå misbrug
Nevertheless, in the document which was submitted to the Standing Employment Committee on 19 May this year, the Commission expressed the opinion that Member States should 'monitor their social protection policies in order to avoid abuse and tackle the problems of the black economy with a view to bringing it
Richard. — (EN) Det ville være en meget dumdristig kommissær, der kommenterede motiverne bag de spørgsmål, han skal besvare. Jeg gentager blot, hvad jeg sagde i mine indledende bemærkninger, nemlig at ihvorvel Kommissionen anser dette for et alvorligt spørgsmål, mener den ikke, at det hører til blandt dem, der har højeste prioritet.
to a minimum income guarantee, and would it not be better if the Commission sought to make this explicit — namely, that every European citizen is entitled to a minimum income guarantee so that we could then proceed to do away with the artificial and painful distinction between those in full-time work and those who are wholly unemployed and set every citizen free to take work, whether full-time or part-time, according to his capacity and inclination?
Enright. — (EN) Er kommissæren ikke enig i, at misbrug af skatte- og socialsikringssystemerne ikke kun går den ene vej, og at medlemsregeringerne faktisk selv misbruger disse systemer, særlig Det fore nede Kongerige ved realiseringen af tredje direktiv om lige behandling af kvinder under den sociale sikring?
Mr Flanagan. — Am I correct in interpreting the reply as saying that it is not a function of the Commission, even though the problem is one which they recognize exists — an abuse which is prevalent in the Community — that the Commission does not feel that it has a direct rôle to play in it and that it is a matter for national governments to deal with?
Med al respekt for det ærede medlem: det kan ikke udledes af spørgsmålet.
It is a factor when one is considering unemployment, and the Commission has made its views known.
Hvis han vil stille et spørgsmål om det, vil jeg med glæde overveje det og se på, hvordan jeg kan svare ham.
But in terms of actually issuing some kind of directive to Member States, no, I do not think that it is our responsibility.
Richard. — (EN) Jeg vil gerne -have mulighed for at overveje mit svar. Det er en anelse mere vidtgående end indholdet af det oprindelige spørgsmål, men hvis der er misbrug, enten det så sker fra enkeltpersoner eller medlemsregeringer, er det noget, som Kommissionen vil se på med alvor.
Mr Richard. — That is a very interesting thesis, but I really must make the same comment as I made to the last questioner, which is that I was asked a question on the black economy, I am now asked to comment upon a minimum income for the whole workforce in the Community.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 8 af Welsh (H-185/81):
With great respect to the honourable gentleman, it does not arise in the question.
Seal. — (EN) Er Kommissionen ikke enig i, at der rejser sig et endnu større problem ved, at folk ikke melder sig som arbejdsløse og derved gør tallene for lave — som i Det forenede Kongerige — og at folk, der har ret til ydelser, er for stolte til at forlange dem? Kommissæren har allerede sagt, at dette spørgsmål intet som helst har at gøre med Parlamentet eller Kommissionen.
Mr Seal. — Would the Commission not agree that there is an even greater problem posed by people who do not register as unemployed, thereby making the figures look too low — as in the United Kingdom — and by people who are entitled to benefits but too proud to claim them?
Vil han derfor ikke tilråde i særdeleshed de lokale myndigheder til at gå i Bradfords fodspor og sende en pjece til alle mennesker i området med meget tydelige angivelser af, hvilken støtte de er berettiget til?
Mr Boyes. — A certain Mr Heath, once the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom until he challenged the British miners, warned last week that if measures to reduce unemployment, especially amongst young people, were not urgently introduced, then there could be severe consequences, including social unrest.
Thorn, formand for Kommissionen. — (FR) Kommissionen blev i maj orienteret af den nederlandske regering om, at nedsættelsen af priserne på gas til nederlandsk gartneri og industri gradvis ville blive fjernet i en overgangsperiode, som ville være afsluttet den 1. april 1984.
Mr Richard. — Well, I must say I have been asked a question about the black economy, and I am now asked to produce, at the drop of a hat, the whole of the Commission's proposals to deal with the unemployment situation in the Community.
På den ene side glædede Kommissionen sig over denne positive — om end en smule sene, kan man sige — reaktion på de skridt, vi i Kommissionen havde taget med hjemmel i artikel 93 i traktaten.
I would be delighted to do so, but I really do not think this is the time or the place, nor do I have the necessary time in which to do it.
Provan. — (EN) Jeg er hr. Flanagan taknemlig for at have rejst dette spørgsmål, og jeg henviser konkret til misbruget af det sociale velfærdssystem, så kommissæren er klar over, hvad jeg tænker på. Er det Kommissionen bekendt, at en landmand, formanden for National Farmers' Union's afdeling i Lannock, Skotland, i sidste uge fik socialsikring — supplerende sikring i virkeligheden — fordi hans driftsindtægt var så lav?
Mr Provan. — I am grateful to Mr Flanagan for having raised this question and I refer specifically to abusing the social welfare system, so that the Commissioner understands to what I am referring.
Vil Kommissionen derfor som et kollegialt organ gøre noget meget, meget snart for at sikre, at vi får en til gavn for skotsk landbrugs fremtid tilfreds stillende løsning på ordningerne med at tage med den ene hånd og give med den anden?
Will the Commission acting as a collegiate body, therefore do something very, very urgently to make certain that we get clawback arrangements satisfactorily resolved for the future benefit of Scottish agriculture?
Vi mente nemlig, at en frist, som først udløb i april 1984, var alt for lang, og vi afventer nu en ny reaktion fra Nederlandenes regering — som vi er i kontakt med — inden efteråret for at se, om den, hvad vi håber og har bedt den om, er enig i en betydelig afkortning af denne frist.
No, I would not confirm it, neither would I deny it, except merely to say this, that in its documents on unemployment and, indeed, in its communication to the so-called Jumbo Council this year, the Commission drew attention to what we believe to be the implicit and inherent sodai tensions which can arise if unemployment remains at its present level.
Richard. — (EN) Jeg må sige, at jeg forbløffes over folks opfindsomhed.
Mr Richard. — I must say that I marvel at people's ingenuity.
Hvad angår det sociale sikringssystem i Skotland, er jeg sikker på, at en velvillig administration i Whitehall i lige så høj grad stiller den til rådighed for landmænd i nød som for alle andre.
As far as the social security system in Scotland is concerned, I am sure that a benevolent administration in Whitehall makes it just as. available to farmers in distress as it does to anybody else.
Med hensyn til at tage med den ene hånd og give med den anden tvivler jeg ikke på, at et detaljeret spørgsmål om det punkt vil blive besvaret af rette vedkommende kommissær.
As far as clawback is concerned, I have no doubt that a detailed question on that will be answered by the appropriate Commissioner.
Formanden. — Før jeg giver hr. Welsh ordet for et tillægsspørgsmål, vil jeg gerne sige, at formanden i sidste møde bestemte og meddelte, at medlemmernes individuelle assistenter ikke har lov at sidde på medlemmernes pladser, undtagen når et medlem er i
Sir Brandon Rhys-Williams. — Would the Commission not agree that it is in fact implicit in every nation's tax system, and in every Member State's system of support, that the beneficiary or the taxpayer is entitled
Formanden gang med at udarbejde en betænkning.
proceedings unless the transitional period is consider ably shortened.
Må jeg bede det sekretariatspersonale, der nu sidder i salen, om at forlade den.
Our opinion is that the April 1984 time-limit is far too long, and we are now awaiting a further reaction from the Netherlands Government, with whom we are in contact, by the autumn.
De politiske grupper har en særlig plads til deres assistenter.
We hope that they will agree to shorten the time-limit consider ably in response to our request.
Det er derfor, vi har haft en, kan jeg forsikre, meget indgående drøftelse i Kommissionen, og vi mener at måtte reagere nu; men De må forstå, at favørpriserne findes i en kontrakt mellem på den ene side en gartnerorganisation og på den anden side gasleverandørerne.
I merely reiterate what I said in my opening remarks, which is that the Commission, while it regards this as a serious issue, does not regard it as one of the highest priority.