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Efter min mening findes der ikke noget Ministerråd; der findes en lang række Ministerråd, som arbejder ved siden af hinanden, men uden tilstrækkelig koordinering imellem hinanden.
Of course, the European Parlia ment wants to debate what went on, but allow me to make the point that I am spending practically the whole day sitting here in what is a virtually an empty chamber.
Endvidere har topmødet ikke bragt den europæiske sag en tomme fremad. Alle de store problemer er blevet stående uden nøjagtigt svar, uden virkelig poli tisk tilskyndelse.
I want to take part in your debate, and I want to continue these debates, but I must say that ministers — and this is something that needs saying — and Members of the Commission have a lot of things to do.
Selv om det er sandt, at man er blevet enige om en række spørgsmål, som f.eks. dialogen med USA, især om at nå frem til en fælles holdning til valutapolitikken, om Mellemøsten, så er Rådets resultat meget magert.
I said earlier that I cannot stay until the end of this debate because tonight I have to be in Geneva, where tomorrow sees the start of a conference on aid to African refugees — 5 million people who need help.
Med hensyn til de øvrige udenrigspolitiske spørgsmål, for så vidt angår Polen, er enigheden mere overbevisende.
The European Parliament rightly refers often to the question of human rights.
Men ved siden af disse proceduremæssige problemer kan man naturligvis også stille spørgsmålet: Hvorfor var der ingen resultater i Maastricht?
Tonight I am going to have a preliminary discussion with Kurt Waldheim, the High Commissioner and a number of ministers, and I think it is a good thing that the President-in-Office of the Council should be at that meeting.
Findes der andre grunde herfor?
That is why I must leave early.
Efter min mening findes der andre grunde.
It is not intended as a snub to this House.
Der findes strukturelle grunde.
I explained the position in advance, and I was assured that this debate could be restricted to a certain length.
Vi må ikke glemme, at EF blev skabt i 1950'erne til at løse regionale problemer i Vesteuropa, problemer som landbrugsordninger, toldunion, kul og stålunion, og i løbet af 1950'erne og 1960'erne løste EF rent faktisk disse problemer.
That is why I got up to make a few points before the adjournment for lunch, although Secretary of State Mr Van der Mei is of course perfectly able and willing to reply to any specific problems for which the Council of Ministers is competent and which are not connected with matters discussed at the European Council, such as steel, fisheries and agriculture.
Men de problemer, vi står overfor i vore dage, er af en anden karakter.
In some respects, it is a general debate on European policy and the situation in Europe.
De er nemlig meget større, de er verdensomspændende, og til løsning af disse problemer viser det sig nu, at EF i virkeligheden ikke fungerer særlig godt, fordi det ikke har kompetence, så at sige, til at løse dem.
I had not actually asked for the floor, but I am grateful to you,'Mr President, for giving me this opportunity to make this point.
Jeg mener derfor, at det er et helt strukturelt problem, som vi nu ser åbenbaret så klart i forbindelse med EF.
I shall continue to follow what the honourable Members have to say.
Hvad angår det famøse spørgsmål om sæde, er status quo-løsningen, hvis man overhovedet kan tale om nogen løsning, naturligvis langt fra at tilfredsstille mig som europæisk parlamentsmedlem.
President. — I would point out to you, with great respect, that what you have just said about the number of Members present is somewhat surprising.
Det er endnu engang at skubbbe vanskelighederne til side, uden at løse dem.
When you speak in this House, you are addressing the European Parliament as a whole, and the importance of what you have to say must not be measured by the number of Members present at any given moment.
Ikke desto mindre har jeg i det mindste som luxembourger den tilfredsstillelse at se, at Det europæiske Råd hverken har forceret eller krænket de tidligere aftaler og har respekteret en lille partners legitime interesser og opnåede rettigheder. Jeg håber, at det vil lykkes udenrigsministrene, senest den 15. juni, at give os koden på det budskab, som for mere end én af os forekommer at være orakelagtigt, og at fortolke det meget klart.
If the Europe of the Community wishes to become a political reality and not simply remain a geographical expression, it cannot remain as it is, and for this a great deal depends on this House and on the capacity which we have, together with the Commission — provided that the Commission does not propose to meekly accept the decisions of a Council which, despite contrary opinions voiced here, is no longer a Council so much as a totally unacceptable 'directoire' — it is up to us to put to good use the strength and the allegiance to unity with which we were endowed by the people who elected us; that is an endowment, Mr President-in-Office, which makes us different from the old Parliament, although there remain in this House a number of people who refuse to accept the fact.
Under alle omstændigheder håber jeg, at dialogen med Europa-Parlamentet om dette spørgsmål ikke vil blive en dialog mellem døve, og jeg er overbevist om, at Parlamentet selv vil hjælpe med til at finde en rimelig løsning i fuld bevidsthed om de politiske konsekvenser og de finansielle følge virkninger af den ene eller den anden imødesete situation, og det i respekt for de beføjelser, der er fastlagt i traktaterne.
We are a parliament with which there must be many associations, a parliament which must not become the rubber stamp of approval for the might of some of our ten governments and the weakness of others, even less of parties; a parliament which must be a steady and firm guide along the road towards political unity, which is the only reality which we should be aiming for: the reality which, beyond all national and beyond all party-political vanities and crazes and egotism, can reasonably defend itself and lead us towards a future of liberty, of independence, of security and of peace not only for a few nations but for all our countries.
Hvorledes det end forholder sig, må man frigøre sig fra tanken, tror jeg, om et europæisk topmøde, der kan give en virkelig genspejling af den europæiske politik og en virkelig impuls til denne politik.
You can rest assured that all our colleagues — whether they are here or prevented from attending by other parliamentary obligations or activities — will note with great interest the statements which you care to make.
Man gør bestemt for megen propaganda og skaber for megen røg om dette møde mellem stats- og regerings cheferne.
Mr Van der Klaauw, President-in-Office of the Council. — (NL) Mr President, I should like first of all to make the point that I am indeed still here.
Det er uden tvivl godt, at de undertiden mødes ved kaminilden for at drøfte tingene og gøre overvejelser i fællesskab.
There was apparently some misunderstanding over whether I would be here or not, but there is one thing I should like to say on this point.
Det er opmuntrende, men det er især smukke ord, og når man hører alt dette, kommer man til at tænke på Goethes Fausts ord. »Jeg hører vel budskabet, men det, der mangler, er troen«.
Mr Ripa di Meana. — (IT) I would like, Mr President, on behalf of the Socialist Group, to make a few
Hvis jeg lige må tale som nederlandsk minister; vi har naturligvis også en stor arbejdsløshed, men på den anden side, sidder vi bogstaveligt og skriger efter øvede og teknisk uddannede mennesker, som kan arbejde i vores avancerede industrier.
Ripa di Meana brief comments both on the motion for resolution by Lord Bethell and others on Community aid for Afghan refugees in Pakistan and on the European Council meeting of 23 and 24 March in Maastricht about Afghanistan.
Jeg tror, at man må have virkelige ministre for fællesskabsanliggender i de forskellige regeringer og ikke lade sagerne blive behandlet af sekretariater af anden rang. Det er nødvendigt, at Parlamentet og Kommissionen som samtalepartnere har et kollegium af regeringer, der har de beføjelser, der er nødvendige for Det europæiske Fællesskabs fremskridt.
previous proposals put forward by the Community, early in 1980 that Afghanistan could become neutral territory and that of January this year put forward by the government of Pakistan, it is largely due to the Soviet wish to open negotiations only after the country has been 'normalized', as it is also due to the fact that the real negotiating parties, that is the Afghan resistance who are fighting in the country, are not invited to the negotiations.
Det er i dette perspektiv, jeg til sidst vil sige, at jeg i fremtiden aldrig vil forvente for meget af de såkaldte topmøder. Derfor vil de heller aldrig mere kunne rokke ved min tillid til tanken om et europæisk frem skridt.
I believe I am still the only Member of this house who has had the opportunity of visiting a number of Afghan refugee camps in Pakistan recently, having been around Peshawar in the north-west frontier province and around Quetta in Beluchistan.
Formanden. — Formanden for Rådet, der er tvunget til at forlade os, har givet udtryk for ønsket om at få ordet en sidste gang senest kl. 5. Jeg giver ham derfor ordet.
For the first time the European Community recognizes in the Maastricht statement the existence of such forces and the legitimacy of the resistance which they are leaving:
Jeg vil altså efter min rede gørelse lige før frokost behandle endnu et enkelt punkt, og efter den sidste taler vil statssekretæren komme ind på problemet som helhed.
. . . the European Council notes with grave concern that military operations by Soviet troops against the Afghan people, who are resisting this external interference, are continuing . . .
Men nu taler vi om den globale måde at gribe problemerne an på. Hr. Beumer talte om dette i meget gribende vendinger, navnlig om dette jumbo-Råd.
This is an important statement and its strength and logic lie in its giving political and diplomatic recognition to the Afghan resistance as one of the essential parties in any negotiations, essential so that the Afghan problem can be resolved before there is any risk of escalation with the indirect presence of another super power, namely America.
Men det nederlandske formandskab stræber efter at holde jumbo-Rådet inden for vores formandskabsperiode.
The refugee problem is not only that of their survival but, in the longer term, must be their return to the native land from which they have been hounded by an all out
Endnu en enkelt bemærkning som ligger mig på hjerte.
President. — I call Mr Van der Gun.
Måske er det uklogt som minister at sige noget om et parlament, men jeg tror på Europa-Parlamentet, og jeg tror på et demokratisk Europas fremtid og derfor vil jeg også komme med denne
Mr Van der Gun. — (NL) Mr President, first of all, it was with some surprise that I learned this morning of the interpretation placed by the President-in-Office of the Council on the results of the Maastricht meeting.
Jeg vil sige et par ting om arbejdsløshedsproblemet. Arbejdsløshedsproblemet var det fremherskende problem i diskussionerne i Maastricht.
In order that we may make a start on finding a solution to the very serious crisis in Afghanistan which is jeopardizing the whole of East-West relations, our Community must not simply give its theoretical support to the United Nations resolution of 20 November 1980 and President Giscard d'Estaing's proposals; both of them have been thwarted, the first by the unwillingness of some of the surrounding countries and second by Babrak Karmal in Moscow in February 1981 on behalf of the Soviets.
Europa-Parlamentets forhandlinger van der Klaauw oprigtigt mente bemærkning: når vi har et Europa-Parlament, lad det da også tale europæisk.
Member States are busy protecting their own industrial interests as far as possible, which may well improve competition between the Member States, but which does little or nothing to improve the position of European business vis-à-vis the United States, Japan and other countries.
Og De vil forstå at jeg gerne vil undgå denne sammenligning.
That is of course in itself perfectly understandable and admirable, but the Council then goes on to say that this whole problem — especially as regards young unemployed persons — should be tackled at both national and European levels.
Jeg hører for ofte at nationale interesser træder i forgrunden.
What I should like to know is what form the European approach will take.
Parlamentet bør være europæisk, som forøvrigt også Det europæiske Råd — hvor vanskeligt det end er, såvel for Parlamentet som for Rådet, som for de almindelige Ministerråd, at tænke europæisk.
I have come across this phrase on a number of occasions, but every time in the past the Commission has tried to put certain proposals into effect, we have come up against the problem that certain Member States want to have nothing to do with a European approach.
Hr. formand, jeg glæder mig til den næste drøftelse i Europa-Parlamentet.
That is why I should like to know what is meant by an approach at Community level.
Efter den sidste taler er statssekretæren gerne parat til at komme nærmere ind på alle de stillede spørgsmål, og jeg kan forsikre Dem, at De får et fortræffeligt svar af ham.
Is the European Council prepared to accept the financial consequences and thus make it possible for a start to be made at European level?
Det andet punkt, hr. formand, angår formanden for Det europæiske Råds fraværelse i Strasburg.
That is something I really cannot fathom out.
Af hr. van Agts svar til fru Veil, fremgår det, at han egentlig hævdede at han kunne komme, men at han ikke gjorde det, fordi han ikke kunne få en enstemmig til slutning til dette.
We have now spent two years discussing social measures in the steel industry, but even now it is by no means certain that these will in fact be adopted.
Det behøver ikke at være katastrofalt, men spørgsmålet er så: hvad har han fået i bytte for dette i europæiske penge? — jeg taler ikke om nationale byttepenge.
We must realize that, if this kind of thing is going to be committed to print, it will automatically give rise to expectations which we shall then have to fulfill.
Michel. — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, jeg vil gerne først konstatere tre ting og derefter stille tre aktionsforslag.
Mr Spencer. — Mr President, you have already been very kind by marking my birthday with three bottles of wine, so the additional gift of one minute is graciously accepted.
Penders. — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne begynde med at komplimentere ministeren for hans redegørelse kl. 16.10, hvor han navnlig gjorde indvendinger mod, at der var så få medlemmer af Europa-Parlamentet til stede her.
Indeed, these consultations are said to be of vital importance. But the European Council should know perfectly well that consultations with the two sides of industry in Europe have practically no chance of success because of the lack of a European industrial policy.
Jeg syntes, det var en fortræffelig redegørelse, og jeg synes at han havde fuldstændig ret.
There is no such thing as a European policy on tackling unemployment and improving the employ ment situation.
Jeg vil behandle to emner, nemlig spørgsmålet om sædet og spørgsmålet om, hvorvidt ministeren skal aflægge rapport om Det europæiske Råd i stedet for formanden for Det europæiske Råd.
So far the two sides of industry have hardly paid any attention to consultations of this kind, partly due to the fact that, generally speaking, none of the subjects discussed are of the fundamental or vital importance the European Council referred to.
Den første konstatering: det er det rosende vidnesbyrd, som Rådet giver sig selv med hensyn til det, der netop er sket i Maastricht.
The Council then goes on to refer to the Jumbo Council, a subject which Mr Beumer will be going into in more detail.
Det konstaterer, at der er et sundt og stabilt grundlag i Fællesskabet, hvilket vi kunne glæde os over, hvis det var sandt; at der er en vedvarende økonomisk vækst, et tilfredsstillende beskæftigelsesniveau, en fornuftig valutapolitik, en sund budgetforvaltning og offentlige og private investeringer, der er produktive og dynamiske, og endelig en økonomisk struktur, som går i retning af fornyelse og effektivitet.
I shall therefore confine myself to asking whether there is any truth to the information I have received from a fairly reliable source to the effect that certain Member States are of the opinion that the Jumbo Council should not be convened on the grounds that this may lead to the problems of employ ment and unemployment being tackled at European level.
Med hensyn til valutapolitikken siger Rådet, at det ønsker en styrkelse af dialogen med USA, især for så vidt angår rentesatser, og dette for at finde frem til en fælles holdning.
That is a sentiment I can only endorse, but I am sure the European Council has not overlooked the fact that there is no question at the moment of a European approach to the problem of strengthening Europe vis-à-vis Japan and the United States.
Lad os derfor ønske Rådet held og lykke på dette urolige område, der hedder valutaordenen . . .
I do not want to use the word 'protectionism', but the fact is that more and more
Hvad Det europæiske Råd har gjort med hensyn til sædet, synes jeg ligefrem er en rystende sagernes gang.
I just want to apply myself to this wonderful word 'jumbo'.
I stedet for at tage en beslutning har Det euro pæiske Råd undladt at tage en beslutning.
Members may actually not know that Jumbo was the name of a Victorian elephant, who was exhibited in London for financial gain.
Vælgerne har overhovedet ingen forståelse for den ineffektive måde, som vores Parlament drager frem og tilbage på.
I just hope that the jumbo Council will not go the same way as Jumbo the elephant.
Jeg synes altså, at det er nødvendigt at Det europæiske Parlament på basis af Zagari-betænkningen så hurtigt som muligt træffer en beslutning.
If the Council, whatever its good intentions, is to work if 30 ministers are really to produce a strategy on unemployment, it must be properly prepared.
Alt dette siger jeg også på min gruppes vegne.
Now, there is an amendment down in my name deleting the reference to June and inserting 'proper preparation'.
Personligt vil jeg tilføje, at jeg ikke er villig til fortsat at acceptere en situation, hvor den europæiske regering og Det europæiske Parlament forsamles hundredevis af kilometer fra hinanden.
If the Commission and the Council can assure me that such a meeting will be well prepared, that it will lead to some action on unemployment, I shall of course happily withdraw that amendment.
Efter hvad jeg ved, findes der i hele verden kun en
There could be no crueller deception than to raise expectations and then disappoint them.
Men på et tids punkt, siger jeg, hvor dette sker i Fællesskabet, må man, selv om man kan glæde sig over det, og vi glæder og faktisk over det, konstatere, at selv om vi på en vis måde har tilfredsstillet 8 millioner landbrugere, så er der også i øjeblikket 8 millioner arbejdsløse. løse.
No, the prematurely defunct heavenly body I have in mind bears the title 'The Dutch presidency', that much-heralded apparition which, it was said, would show us the way out of many an impasse, the saviour promised to the Community in days of yore.
Haferkamp, næstformand i Kommissionen. — (DE) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, jeg vil gerne fremkomme med nogle bemærkninger til forslagene til beslutning angående Polen og flygtningene fra Afghanistan og til de udtalelser herom, der er faldet i løbet af debatten.
Mr Papaefstratiou. — (GR) Mr President, it is a fortunate coincidence that the European Parliament is today discussing important political matters which only a few days ago were being considered by the Heads of Government at the Maastricht Summit.
Jeg vil ikke her opholde mig længe ved de politiske erklæringer.
Let me begin with an internal Community matter, the seat of the European Parliament.
Hr. formand, her ligger følgelig også problemet med vort fællesskabsbudget.
What, after all, does this Jumbo Council amount to?
Af 17 mia 814 mio regningsenheder er der 3 mia 299 mio, der går til videnskabs-, energi, transportpolitikken, til Regionalfonden, Socialfonden og til udviklingssamarbejdet.
No matter what complex inter pretation is put on the term, all it amounts to is that, at a given moment, the Ministers for Social Affairs get a chance to make their voices heard in the economic debate which has so far practically dominated the Community to the exclusion of all other concerns.
Vi har for eksempel i Polens tilfælde handlet hurtigt såvel i december sidste år som også nu — det er der blevet refereret til i morges. Hvad angår Polen, lader vi os lede af to principper.
Let me turn now briefly to the two major problems of foreign policy, on which resolutions have been tabled in Parliament — Afghanistan and Poland.
For det andet bestræber vi os på at træffe hurtige beslutninger og gennemføre dem hurtigt. Således har Kommissionen og Rådet meget hurtigt efter den poli tiske orientering, som Det europæiske Råd i Maastricht gav, truffet deres afgørelse.
Some people have doubts as to the extent to which the countries of the European Community can have a decisive influence on international problems, in view of the arms race between the superpowers and the expansionist role they frequently want to play.
Det drejer sig denne gang om fødevareleverancer svarende til de polske ønsker til en værdi af ca. 200 mio ERE. Dette totalbeløb skal finansieres i en størrelsesorden af ca. 160 mio ERE gennem kreditter fra medlemsstaterne og ca. 33 mio ERE fra Fællesskabets budgetmidler.
However, I think I can express the conviction that the unity of the free countries of Europe, demonstrated by the settingup of thç European Community and accompanied by the universal hope that it will make even faster progress, gives Europe a special standing and the moral weight to play a major role in solving international problems, and particularly those which threaten peace.
Derved vil købene kunne iværksættes til en pris, der ligger indtil 15 % under verdensmarkedspriserne for de pågældende produkter.
As regards the problem of the Afghan refugees, I do not think anyone can deny that a way must be found of giving them more and better support, while at the same time pressure must be brought to bear to obtain a withdrawal of Soviet troops from that country.
Jeg vil nu gerne kort udtrykke mine tre forslag, idet jeg afslutter mit indlæg. For det første tror vi, at det er nødvendigt, at man får dette møde mellem økonomi, finans-, social- og beskæftigelseministrene, som på rådsplan skal finde frem til et økonomisk genopsving, idet de på forhånd har optaget de nødvendige kontakter med de forskellige af arbejdsmarkedets parter, og at de, således som vi — hr. Jacques Moreau og jeg selv — har anmodet om det i en uopsættelig beslutning, forelægger en række foran staltninger, som der skal forhandles om her i Parlamentet.
On the subject of Poland, I should like to propose to Mr Haferkamp that a delegation be sent to Poland consisting of Members of the European Parliament and a representative of the Council of Ministers, so that the Community can play a major role in view of the threat to peace which has become evident in that sensitive region.
Det er ikke nogen enkel operation og kræver hundreder af kontrakter.
We must certainly find a way of speeding up material aid.
Dette må ikke overses, for dertil kommer transportomkostningerne og betalingen af dem. Vi skal undgå alt, som yderligere komplicerer denne i forvejen teknisk vanskelige operation.
At the same time, however, it must be appreciated by all that this aid is being given to the Polish people, which is currently facing so much suffering and hard ship, in the hope that this will be linked to even greater political aid on the part of the Community.
600 000 t — det er dog ca. 30 000 jernbanevogne, og De kan selv regne ud, hvad det kræver at sætte det i bevægelse. Allerede det kræver et større generalstabsarbejde.
I sincerely hope that this major problem, which is causing concern to all of us, will soon have a positive outcome.
Derudover skal vi også se på spørgsmålet om budget midler.
President. — I call Mr Van Minnen.