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Hvorfor dette stædige forsøg på at stille offentligheden over for en fuld byrdet kendsgerning?
Why is this stubborn attempt being made to present the public with a kind of fait accompli ?
Man vil sandsynligvis tvinge den til resignation. Resignation over for, at forhand
Probably in order to force people into acceptance.
Min gruppe mener ikke, at vi har tabuemner overhovedet i Parlamentet, og når vi har haft visse betænkeligheder ved at tage raketdebatten op her i Strasbourg, skyldes det ikke, at vi vel næppe har muligheder for at tilføre debatten afgørende nye synspunkter, da vi ganske enkelt ikke har grundlag for at ændre en beslutning, der er truffet uden for Fællesskabet, nemlig af NATOs udenrigs- og forsvarsministre.
If there is a positive aspect to what is happening in the world today this lies in the increasing anxiety shown by all shades of public opinion, in the nagging doubts about the future of the world and the human race and in the desire to call a halt to this race towards oblivion and to bring about a definitive change of course.
Lad mig præcisere denne holdning lidt: vi vender os i den liberale gruppe på ingen måde imod, at dette emne eller andre sikkerhedspolitiske emner tages op.
This is what lies behind all the great peace demonstrations. This is what led to the appeal made by the 14 000 physicists.
Det, vi vender os imod, er, at man vil forsøge at udnytte det europæiske politiske samarbejde til at ændre ved en politik og ved en beslutning, som de fleste af vore lande har truffet i samarbejde med lande uden for Fællesskabet, herunder USA. Det er rent ud sagt et forsøg på at ændre vore landes sikkerhedspolitik ad bagdøren.
This gave rise to the clear and powerful warning delivered on Saturday by Pope John Paul II in his speech to the Papal Academy of Science in which he drew attention to the fact that just seven per cent of the world's military expenditure would be enough to save hundreds of millions of people from death by starvation.
Hr. formand, det er et meget lidt tiltalende taktisk spil, vi her får præsenteret.
Mr Haagerup (L). — (DA) Mr President, several members have wished for a debate in this Parliament on the much discussed matter of the American medium-range missiles and NATO's twin-track decision.
Lad mig en gang spørge: Hvordan mener initiativtagerne til denne debat egentlig, at den skal hjælpe til at få et snarligt positivt resultat ud af Genève-forhandlingerne?
The Liberal Group has not shared the wish that we definitely must have a missile debate in this Parliament, even if we, of course, accept the decision now taken.
For det er vel det, man gerne vil have — eller vil man bare lave mere demonstration, mere ballade, mere forvirring omkring hele raketsagen?
My group is not of the opinion that taboo items should exist in the Parliament at all.
Kan man da ikke se, at man gør det endnu langt sværere for Sovjetunionen at enes med amerikanerne om et minimum af raketter på begge sider i Europa, når man som de tyske, hollandske og danske socialdemokrater samt kommunister kræver, at der overhovedet ikke må være nogen amerikanske raketter i Europa, mens der gerne må være russiske raketter i Europa? Disse russiske raketter har stået her i flere år.
And if we have had certain doubts about bringing up the missile debate here in Strasbourg, this is not due to the fact that we have hardly any possibilities to add decisively new viewpoints to the debate, because we quite simply have no basis for changing a decision taken outside the Community, namely by the foreign and defence ministers of NATO.
Hvordan og hvornår har vi i Parlamentet hørt socialisterne protestere mod denne sovjetiske rakettrussel mod Vesteuropa?
What we are against is the fact that an attempt has been made to exploit European political cooperation to change a policy and a decision which most of our countries have made in cooperation with countries outside the Community, including the USA.
Hvornår har vi hørt dem protestere imod den uden for Parlamentet? mentet?
To put it plainly, this is an attempt to change, through the back door, the security policy of the Member States.
Alt tyder desværre på, at socialister og socialdemokrater med hæderlige undtagelser fra Italien og Frankrig, og jeg håber også hæderlige undtagelser inden for SPD, har ladet sig skræmme af fredsaktivisternes agitation og nu ensidigt er sluttet op bag kampagnen mod de amerikanske raketter, hvorved de søger at undergrave grundlaget for NATO-beslutningen for nøjagtig 4 år siden. Det er en uansvarlig optræden, som dybt må beklages.
But it seems to us that there is too much acceptance here ; and too much support for weapons at the expense of the dictates of reason. I hope that Mr Barbi and Mr Fergusson will allow me to say in reply to their speeches that there is still time not only to avert another step towards a Europe transformed into a potential 'Euroshima' but also to prevent Europe from moving backwards politically and culturally by at least 30 years.
Kun en klar tilkendegivelse fra Parlamentet til støtte for vore landes politik til opretholdelse af en nødvendig magtbalance i Europa vil være det rette svar på denne provokation.
We must not simply throw this time away but must use it to rise above all national or party disputes and show a real sense of European responsibility !
Hr. formand, da jeg førte forhandlinger med de politiske grupper forud for vedtagelsen af min betænkning om det politiske samarbejde og europæisk sikkerhed, var der mange, der påpegede over for mig, at det måtte præciseres, at Fællesskabets institutioner ikke har nogen kompetence på det rent militære område, som vi netop blev mindet om af hr. Fergusson for lidt siden.
Mr President, when I negotiated with the political groups prior to the adoption of my report on political cooperation and European security, many people pointed out to me that it should be said explicitly that the Community institutions have no competence in military areas, as Mr Fergusson reminded us a short time ago.
Jeg har ikke blot accepteret dette synspunkt, jeg har sat det ind i betænkningen, som blev vedtaget med et stort flertal af medlemmer, der kom fra alle seks politiske grupper.
Not only have I accepted this viewpoint, I have included it in the report, which was adopted by a large majority consisting of members from all six political groups.
Hvem var det, der var så ivrig for at få denne præcisering og denne begrænsning indført i min betænkning? Ja, det var de selv samme medlemmer og partier, som nu mener, at Parlamentet alligevel skal beskæftige sig med militære spørgsmål og med raketterne i Europa.
Who was so eager to have this explicit statement and this restriction included in my report ?
(Bifald fra midten og fra højre)
(Applause from the centre and from the right)
For et år siden var det et klart nej fra socialister og kommunister til at diskutere militære anliggender i Parlamentet — nu er det blevet til et ja, at vi skal diskutere disse spørgsmål. Hvorfor nu denne kovending?
In order to achieve this we Italian Communists, who are aware of the gravity of the situation, wish now to propose that the European Parliament should adopt a position based on just two points.
Hvem tror medlemmerne i den anden side af salen egentlig de er, når de vover at tage patent på freden og tage ordet »fred« i deres mund på en måde, der mere end antyder, at vi andre er mindre fredselskende end de selv?
We are deeply convinced that the pause for reflection and the new margins for negotiation which would therefore be opened up could, together with a clear initiative from Europe, lead to understandings which
Jeg gentager: usolidarisk over for vore allierede.
Why this sudden change ?
Det burde man tænke lidt over i den kreds af medlemmer, der er så overbevist om deres egne motivers renhed, at de ikke skyer noget middel for at overbevise andre om rigtigheden af deres synspunkter.
Well, it is due to the fact that several, but far from all, socialist and social democratic parties in Western Europe have now changed their viewpoints as regards NATO's twin-track decision of 1979.
Haagenip hundrede SS 20-missiler har ødelagt den globale magtbalance, og at det haster med at få den genskabt af hensyn til fredens fortsatte bevarelse.
Haagerup have asked the USA to bring to Europe ; weapons which they too have accepted four years ago, should no results be reached from the negotiations in Geneva on the so-called INF weapons.
at det budskab, der udgår fra Parlamentet, bliver et helt andet end det, som nogle af initiativtagerne til denne debat har tænkt sig.
No results have materialized, and since 1979 the Russians have multiplied the number of their SS-20 missiles.
(Bifald fra midten og fra højre)
But that is not the reason for today's debate.
FORSÆDE: BRUNO FRIEDRICH Næstformand de la Malène (DEP). — (FR) Hr. formand, mine damer og herrer, mine bemærkninger gælder først proceduren og dernæst selve indholdet.
The reason is that socialists and social democrats from a number of our Member States — and regrettably including the German SPD — want to create as much publicity as possible for their campaign, a campaign which is not primarily directed against the Soviet missiles, but against those American missiles, which have not even yet been deployed in Europe.
På den ene side har vi de frie demokratiers alliance, der vil forsvare sig, og på den anden side står der en angribende blok.
This should be pondered on by that group of Members who are so convinced of the purity of their own motives that they stop at nothing in order to convince others of the justification of their viewpoints.
Man kan tiltræde vor alliance, eller man kan udtræde af den, hvis man ikke befinder sig godt.
Maybe the very thing they stand for is contributing to weaken our security, and thereby constitute a danger for peace and freedom in western Europe.
På den anden side, i den truende blok, kan man ikke komme ud, når man først er kommet ind.
Mr President, I at any rate am convinced that this is so.
Prøv blot at spørge Polen, hvad man dér mener om den anden bloks alliance!
And because of this there are some of us who through a communal decision have taken steps to safeguard that the message which emerges from Parliament will be quite different from what some of the initiators of this debate had in mind.
Vi er en alliance af frie demokratier, vi kræver kun én ret, men den kræver vi til gengæld også: retten til at forsvare os, retten til vor sikkerhed.
Mr de la Malène (DEP). — (FR) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I shall comment first on the procedure and then on the substance.
Hvad proceduren angår, føler vi givetvis alle, at vi under den krise, som vi taler om i dag, befinder os i et afgørende øjeblik for vort frie Europas overleven.
As regards the procedure, we all have the feeling that the crisis of which we are speaking today is of critical importance for the survival of free Europe.
Men det er ikke tilstrækkelig grund til, at alle og enhver beskæftiger sig dermed, og at hvem som helst taler om hvad som helst — tværtimod.
But that is not a reason for anybody and everybody to be meddling in it or to be talking of it. Just the opposite.
Det er ikke Det europæiske økonomiske Fællesskabs sag, det er ikke Parlamentets sag, og det er end ikke en sag for EPS; det er en sag for medlemmerne af Atlantpagtens militære organisation.
It is no business of the European Economic Community, nor of our Assembly, nor even of the Ten in cooperation ; it is the business of the members of the military organization of the Atlantic Alliance.
Først den egentlige pacifisme: vi ved af erfaring, at pacifisme først betyder underkastelse og dernæst krig.
In the course of the years they have been steadily augmented.
Det er ikke enten underkastelse eller krig; det er først under kastelse og så krig.
How and when has this Parliament heard the Socialists protest against this Soviet missile threat against Western Europe ?
Den pacifisme, vi oplever, er den manipulerede pacifisme.
When have we heard them protest against it outside of this Parliament ?
Vi er klar over, at der inden for fredsbevægelsen findes mange forskellige mennesker, følelser og ideologier, men det er intet tilfælde, når Sovjetunionens udløbere verden over — de forskellige fredsbevægelser — træder frem ved at afholde store fredsdemonstrationer, netop når Sovjetunionen og dens vasaller truer.
Unfortunately, everything points to the fact that socialists and social democrats — with honourable exceptions from Italy and France, and I do hope, with honourable exceptions also within the SPD — have been scared by the peace movement's propaganda, and they have now finally joined the campaign against the American missiles, whereby they are trying to undermine the basis of the NATO decision which was adopted exactly four years ago. This is irresponsible conduct, which must be deeply regretted.
Denne pacifisme interesserer os ikke, for det er en manipuleret pacifisme.
Only a clear statement from Parliament in support of our Member States' policy to safeguard the necessary balance of power in western Europe can be the correct answer to this provocation.
Jeg skal i øvrigt bemærke, at den beslutning, vi behandler i dag, ikke er ny, idet den er blevet truffet for mange måneder siden, og dengang var der ingen, der sagde noget.
I note, by the way, that the decision which brings us together here today was in fact taken many months ago, and at the time nothing was said.
Men nu foreligger der en ny situation, et overraskende initiativ, nemlig rådsformandens.
Now, however, there is a new element — the surprising initiative of the President-in-Office of the Council.
Det er så meget desto mere overraskende, som han, da han var i opposition, tog store forbehold over for Fællesskabet og endnu større forbehold over for det politiske samarbejde.
An initiative all the more surprising in that, when he was in opposition, he had the strongest reservations as to the Community, and even stronger ones as to the coopera tion of the Ten.
Og nu vil den rådsformand, der havde så hårde ord til overs for Fællesskabet og vort samarbejde, uretmæssigt benytte sig af samarbejdet til at føre en politik, som han synes er god.
But now, as President-in-Office, the same man who had harsh words for the Community and for this cooperation wants, wrongly, to use this cooperation for the ends of what he considers the right policy.
Det er helt utilladeligt og misbrug af den europæiske opbygning, og det er af denne proceduremæssige årsag, at vi i dag har denne forhandling, at vi har med underskrevet det foreliggende forslag til beslut ning, idet vi hermed, hr. formand for Rådet, tager afstand fra Deres forsøg på at lede Europa på afveje.
There is something intolerable about that, an aura of misdirection of the European construction, and it is for this procedural reason that we have organized today's debate, that we are participating in it, and that we have signed the resolution which has been tabled to signify, Mr President-in-Office of the Council, that we denounce your attempt to misdirect Europe.
Da de SS 20missiler, der truer os, blev opstillet på den anden side grænsen, oplevede man intet pacifistisk eller kommunistisk demonstrationstog i Rom, Bonn eller Bruxelles.
Let it be stated clearly : my group and the Parliament's majority simply do not accept that certain individuals and parties may achieve a monopoly on peace and the peace movement by
(Bifald fra midten og fra højre)
(Applause from the right and centre)
fra formandskabets side.
(Applause from the right and centre)
Dette fremgår klart ikke blot af ovennævnte tekster, som vidner om en praksis, der er fulgt siden 1976, men også af den nylige og velkendte højtidelige erklæring fra Stuttgart om den europæiske union, hvor visse lande forbeholdt sig retten til at føre deres udenrigspolitik uden forpligtelser, et forbehold, som fik de øvrige parters godkendelse.
As to the substance, my group is convinced of three things. The first is that an overall balance of forces must be achieved ; the second, that the free-world alliance is a defensive one ; and the third, that pacifism, as it is being served to us, is anything but the answer to the problem of peace.
Som afslutning på mit indlæg vil jeg gerne sige, i hvor høj grad jeg beundrer, og i hvor høj grad jeg er stats mænd fra hele Europa taknemmelig, fordi de er i stand til at modstå det pres, man forsøger at lægge på dem.
Only now, when we want to defend ourselves, when we want to safeguard our own security against these arms which have been installed across the border, are these pacifist, or Communist, movements manifesting themselves everywhere in the West.
(Kraftigt bifald fra midten og fra højre)
(Applause from the right and centre)
Charalambopoulos, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (GR) Jeg har med stor opmærksomhed hørt på indlæggene indtil nu.
First, the overall balance of forces. We all know that it is this balance which has maintained peace, such as it was, throughout the world nearly 40 years now.
Især har jeg hæftet mig ved noget, hr. de la Malene sagde angående formanden for Rådet, idet jeg jo netop i dag har den ære at være til stede i denne egenskab.
We also know that only a global equilibrium is likely in the future to, first, continue to preserve the peace, and — secondly — perhaps lead to disarmament, genuine disarmament, I mean.
Hr. de la Malene sagde, at jeg har fordrejet meningen med det politiske samarbejde.
Mr President, I am coming to the end of my speech.
Præcis det modsatte er tilfældet.
Contrary to my custom, it has been an impassioned one.
Og jeg glemmer ikke på noget tidspunkt, at jeg er forpligtet til efter afslutningen på disse forhand linger at viderebringe de synspunkter, som er blevet udtrykt, til mine kolleger i Rådet.
The French, thanks to General de Gaulle, find themselves in a rather special position in this matter. It is not one that entitles them to preach to anyone, nor do they intend to.
Denne bekymring er kommet meget tydeligt og slående til udtryk i alle Europas lande.
One can join our alliance, and one can leave it, if one does not like it.
Jeg nævnte i starten, at udenrigspolitiske spørgsmål hører under de nationale parlamenters beføjelser, og dette er en praksis, som er blevet fulgt systematisk de sidste år.
But, in ending, I should like to say how much I admire and how grateful I feel to those statesmen throughout Europe who are able to resist the pressures that are being exerted on them.
(Bifald)
(Loud applause from the right and centre)
For at bevise det, skønt begivenhederne taler for sig selv, behøver jeg blot at henvise til, hvad der er blevet udtalt vedrørende dette spørgsmål af de foregående formænd for Rådet.
We are an alliance of free democracies and we only ask for one right, but that right we do demand : the right to our own defence and the right to our security.
Den griber ind Parlamentets velerhvervede rettig heder.
The third thing we believe concerns pacifism.
Jeg anmoder Dem, hr. formand, om at tilbagevise det.
Mr de la Malène said that I have distorted the meaning of political coopera tion.
Det er en beskæring af Parlamentets rettigheder.
It is the Member himself who has made the distortion.
Rådsformanden har selv i en spørgsgetid besvaret et spørgsmål, som formanden slet ikke ville tillade — om nøjagtig det samme emne!
And I always keep it in mind that when this debate is over, my obligation is to convey the views expressed to my colleagues in the Council.
Han må indrømme, at Europa-Parlamentet ikke alene kan debattere et sådant spørgsmål inden for det politiske samarbejde, men at det også har ret til at høre rådsformandens mening.
I said at the beginning that on foreign policy matters it is the national parliaments which have competence, and this practice has been adhered to systematically in recent years.
(Kraftigt bifald)
(Strenuous protests)
Det er altså en ægte ret, Rådet har, til altid at deltage i debatten, når de ønsker det.
At a time when the SS-20s, which threaten us, were being installed on the other
Jeg tror ikke, hr. formand og ærede medlemmer, at der er tale om nogen fordrejning fra formandens og mere generelt
To prove this, even though the facts speak for them selves, I need do no other than refer you to what previous Presidents of the Council of Ministers have said on the matter.
Rådets formand har gjort brug af denne ret. En sådan anmodning om ordet ændrer ikke vores dagsorden, og for så vidt må jeg henvise til, at Deres krav ikke er i overensstemmelse med forretningsordenen.
Charalambopoulos this Parliament has discussed external policy questions on several occasions — and the President of the Council has joined in himself, as I remember.
Hr. udenrigsminister hhv. hr. rådsformand — alt efter, hvad De føler Dem som — De har sagt, at udenrigspolitiske spørgsmål ikke angår Parlamentet.
The President of the Council himself once answered a question, during Question Time, which the President did not want to allow, and on exactly this subject !
Er det i Deres fem måneders imbedsperiode undgået Deres opmærksomhed, at udenrigsministrene og de ti medlemsstater har forpligtet sig til inden for EPS at harmonisere og koordinere den nationale udenrigspolitik, at de har forpligtet sig til hvert kvartal at afholde et kollokvium om det europæiske politiske samarbejde sammen med Europa-Parlamentets politiske udvalg, og at de har forpligtet sig til her at diskutere alle de spørgsmål, der er blevet behandelt inden for EPS?
He must admit that the Euro pean Parliament can not only debate such a question in the framework ot European Political Cooperation but also has the right to hear the views of the President of the Council.
Hammerich (CDI). — Hr. formand, i denne truende tid er man glad for ethvert tegn på afspænding og fornuftig handling, og sådanne tegn findes også.
President. — Mr Bangemann, the Chair does not apply the Rules of Procedure of the European Parliament just to suit the wishes of individual Members but in accordance with the provisions of the Rules themselves.
Desværre ser det nu ud til, at monteringen indledes før fristens udløb uden et ekstraordinært NATO-møde, og uden at man afventer det ordinære møde i december.
Moreover, a memorandum by the Irish Presidency, dated 13 November 1979, on the problems created by honourable Members' questions, states, after pointing out that many of the questions raised have to do with the national positions of Member States and could thus more fittingly be tabled in the national parliaments, that in conformity with the guidelines the presidency is obliged to declare that such questions are outside its competence.
Denne forhastede montering er en rystende udemokratisk handling, der går stik mod det store flertals ønsker.
Mr President and honourable Members, I do not think there is any distortion on my part, nor, more generally, by the Presidency.
For det er ikke rigtigt, som den kristeligdemokratiske forespørgsel siger, at Europas folk ser raketterne som et nødvendigt forsvarsmiddel for den vestlige verden. Tværtimod, de fleste er imod raketterne og havde nok foretrukket fornuftige handlinger, som det danske folketing foreskriver i de to beslutninger.
This is clearly manifested not only by the documents I have mentioned, and which attest to the practice followed since as far back as 1976, but also by the recent solemn declaration on European Union adopted in Stuttgart in connection with which some countries reserved the right not to be bound in any way as regards the exercise of their foreign policies, a reserva tion which the other partners ratified.
Det er ganske vist ikke os, der forhandler, men det er da os, der bliver forhandlet om.
The President-in-Office of the Council has just made use of this right.