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Om: Fængslede medlemmer af den tyrkiske fredsorganisation
Moreover, we have made a proposal to the members of the Council to produce, wherever possible, single texts to unify and simplify, formally speaking, the vast amount of legislation which has been produced in recent years.
Vil udenrigsministrene i politisk samarbejde tage sagen om de 18 fængslede medlemmer af den tyrkiske fredsorganisation, som for tiden afsoner langvarige fængselsstraffe, op til behandling med henblik på at tage et fælles initiativ på disses vegne, og vil udenrigsministrene i bekræftende fald rette så indtrængende en henstilling som muligt på vegne af Mahmut Dikerdem, en kræftpatient, der nægtes den nødvendige lægebehandling i Sagmalcilar-fængslet?
I am sure he is not surprised that there is serious concern — we work hard here to get proposals agreed and then nothing happens about them. Attention has been drawn to the fact that one proposal has been 18 years before the Council and has not been
Det er i lige så høj grad sandsynligt, at forsvarsadvokaterne i denne retssag snart vil blive udelukket fra juridisk aktivitet.
But worse than that, may I draw his attention to the fact that in November when my question was lodged, the second Turkish Peace Asso-
Dette gør enhver påstand til skamme, som fremsættes af det tyrkiske regime, om en tilbagevenden til demokratiet.
Ewing ciation trial involved a further 48 people, including the lawyers who dare to defend those who are accused, surely a new dimension when even defending lawyers are arrested with the others!
Jeg ønsker at få at vide, hvilke forestillinger Fællesskabets udenrigsministre planlægger at gøre over for den tyrkiske regering med henblik på at understrege alle borgeres grundlæggende ret til et juridisk forsvar.
Surely this is so serious as to merit some special overt approach now by the For eign Ministers meeting in political cooperation to the Turkish Government, because things are not getting better, they are getting worse.
fremtid, det vil sige i løbet af ugen. Spørgsmålene vedrører fru Isevan, som stadig sidder fængslet under skandaløse forhold.
the preceding questions, it appears that he recognizes that democratic and human rights are being brutally violated in Turkey at this very moment.
Kan han i øvrigt forsøge at an vende alle midler for at hindre, at jurister, som er blevet domfældet, eller som for øjeblikket forhøres i forbindelse med processen mod de 48 nye medlem mer af den tyrkiske sammenslutning for freden fratages deres bestalling.
Thus, I would like to ask whether he can give us an assurance that, insofar as this situation continues, all financial assist ance in the context of the third and fourth financial protocols between the EEC and Turkey will be frozen, together with the special financial aid to Turkey for 1985?
Forte. — (IT) Som tidligere nævnt takker jeg for de seneste oplysninger.
We are very concerned at these latest developments!
Forte. — (IT) I ethvert tilfælde, som vi har kendskab til, og som efter vor opfattelse betyder overgreb som de her nævnte, vil vi støtte en undersøgelse for derefter at kunne give udtryk for vore indvendinger og vort synspunkt over for den tyrkiske regering, som i øvrigt udmærket kender vor holdning, og som under alle omstændigheder kan forestille sig den, da vi i hvert enkelt tilfælde har fulgt disse retningslinjer.
Likewise, Madam President, I would like to ask to what extent the Council is willing to make representations to Turkey concerning the members of the Disk trade union, precisely now that the European Confederation of Workers has, just a few days ago, agreed to let Disk join its ranks?
Ulburgs (NI). — (NL) Jeg hører, at den tyrkiske regering via sin ambassadør i Bruxelles vil fremme kontakterne mellem det tyrkiske parlament og vort Par lament.
Ms Tongue (S). — It is patently obvious that the President-in-Office of the Council is not aware of the second trial of the Turkish Peace Association that Mrs Ewing just mentioned which started last November with the obvious aim of silencing the leading defence lawyers in the first Turkish Peace Association trial.
Det pågældende brev blev af det udvidede præsidium henvist til det politiske udvalg. Mener De ikke, at en eventuel genoptagelse af denne dialog ville kunne betragtes som en legitimering fra Parlamentets side af det nuværende regime i Tyrkiet, som holder tusinder af politiske fanger fængslet, hvoraf mange tortureres?
It looks increasingly likely that the lawyers among the defendants in this trial will soon be debarred from legal activity.
Jeg var selv på besøg sidste år...
Can the President of the Council formally undertake, here today, to make these representations without delay — in other words in the course of the week?
Forte. — (IT) Dette er netop vor indstilling.
Mr Forte. — (IT) As I said before, we are grateful for the latest information we have received.
Formanden. — Ærede kollega, jeg synes, at indholdet af Deres tillægsspørgsmål ligger ret langt fra det op rindelige spørgsmål.
However, should this turn out to be the case, we will adopt the same attitudes and course of action as in the other case referred to by the questioner — and we hope this will lead to some results.
Jeg ville derfor gerne spørge ham : Kan De give os garanti for, at hvis denne tilstand fortsætter, vil al finansiering inden for rammerne af den tredje og fjerde finansieringsprotokol indgået mellem EØF og Tyrkiet samt den særlige finansieringsstøtte til Tyrkiet i 1985 blive indefrosset? set?
Mr Forte. — (IT) We conduct inquiries into every case we hear of which, like the one you mentioned, might constitute a violation of human rights so that we can subsequently voice our criticisms of the Turkish Government and make our views known — although this is hardly necessary since we react in the same way every time.
Van Miert (S). — (NL) Jeg konstaterer med tilfreds hed, at der faktisk er blevet rettet en henvendelse til mundighederne. Men disse skridt blev taget i november, og selv om vi nu allerede befinder os i februar, synes ministeren ikke at være i stand til at meddele Parlamentet resultatet af denne henvendelse.
Mr Ulburghs (NI). — (NL) I have heard that the Turkish Government wishes to establish contact between the Turkish and European Parliaments through its ambassador in Brussels.
Kan han da ikke foreløbig gøre et forsøg på at meddele os noget?
The letter in question was referred by the Enlarged Bureau to the Political Affairs Committee.
Formanden. — Da spørgeren ikke er til stede, vil spørgsmål nr. 115 blive besvaret skriftligt i1).
Do you not think that a resumption of this dialogue could be interpreted as an endorsement on the part of the European Parliament of the current regime in Turkey, where thousands of people are imprisoned, and many of them tortured, for political reasons?
Spørgsmål nr. 116 fra Van Miert (H-444/84)
Last year, I personally visited . . .
Forte. — (IT) Jeg mener ikke, at dette spørgsmål falder ind under emnet for denne forhandling.
President. — Mr Ulburghs, your question, is not, I think, relevant to the matter in hand.
Udenrigsministrene anførte i sidste måned, at de var i færd med at undersøge, hvordan de bedst kunne anvende deres ind flydelse og støtte til at lå genetableret en situation med fred og
Mr Pearce (ED). — Does the Council not agree that, while maintaining pressure on Turkey to see that human rights are respected there, credit should be given where credit is due and that the Council should properly recognise that Mr Dikerdem has, in fact, been released, that the humanitarian aspects of this case have been recognized and that the Council's overall position in this should strike a balance between the difficulties experienced in Turkey, on the one hand and, on the other, the progress which that country is making towards reestablishment of peaceful, democratic and humanitarian standards?
Lizin (S). — (FR) Jeg vil gerne vende tilbage til to præcise spørgsmål, som allerede er blevet nævnt, og spørge Rådets formand, om han formelt kan love Parlamentet at behandle dem i dem allernærmeste
Mr Alavanos (COM). — (GR) From the replies given by the President-in-Office of the Foreign Ministers to
(') Se bilag af 13.11.1985.
Mr Forte. — (IT) This is exactly the view we take.
Formanden stabilitet samt til i mellemtiden at hindre krænkelser af men neskerettighederne i Uganda.
Subject: Situation in Uganda
Hvilke konklusioner er udenrigsministrene kommet til, og hvilke initiativer har de taget og med hvilke resultater?
Since then, terrorism has reared its ugly head once more with the killing of General Audrin in France and Mr Zimmerman, the industrialist, in the Federal Republic.
Jeg spørger, hr. minister: tror De, det er muligt i løbet af det italienske formandskab, dvs. inden 30. juni 1985, at beramme et uformelt ministermøde for indenrigsministrene og justitsministrene?
I should like to ask whether it would be possible during the Italian Presidency, i.e. before 30 June 1985, to convene an informal meeting between the Ministers of the Interior and the Ministers of Justice?
Forte. — (IT) Det, De beder om, hr. Selva, er plan lagt.
Mr Forte. — (IT) A meeting of this kind has already been planned.
Jeg kan tilføje, at dette emne vil blive drøfter ved et senere spørgsmål fra hr. Fromigoni, hvis jeg ikke tager fejl.
I might also add that, if I am not mis­taken, this matter is to be discussed in connection with a subsequent question by Mr Formigoni.
Jeg vil da fremkomme med yderligere oplysninger.
Mr Van Miert (S). — (NL) I am pleased to hear that representations have in fact been made to the autho­rities.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 118 fra De Vries (H584/84)
President. — Question No 118, by Mr De Vries (H584/84):'
Om: Forfølgelse af Bahai-troens tilhængere
Subject: Persecution of the Baha'is
Hvilke bilaterale skridt har formandskabet taget i 1984 inden for rammerne af internationale organisationer med henblik på at få Irans regering til at ophøre med den konstante forfølgelse af tilhængere af Bahai-troen?
What bilateral action did the Presidency take in 1984 in conjunction with the international organi­zations to induce the Iranian Government to put an end to the continual persecution of the follow­ers of the Baha'i faith?
Hvilke initiativer agter De Ti at tage under det italienske formandskab?
What initiatives have the Ten decided to take during the Italian presidency?
Forte. — (IT) Vi har imidlertid modtaget en skrivelse fra præsident Obote, som jeg dog ikke kan læse op, fordi den er på ca. 20 sider. Vi følger situationen med henblik på kontrolforanstaltninger i praksis og regner med, at dette område senere kan blive bedre belyst.
Mr Forte. — (IT) We have in fact received a letter from President Obote. However, I cannot read it to you because it runs to some 20 pages.
Hvis vi støder på uoverensstemmelser, vil vi hurtigst muligt træffe andre foranstaltninger. ninger.
At any rate, if we discover any irregularities we will take other steps as soon as possible.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 117 fra Selva (H579/84)
President. — Question No 117, by Mr Selva (H-579/ 84):
Om : Europæisk styrke til bekæmpelse af terrorismen
Subject: European antiterrorist squad
Forte, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (IT) De Ti følger med særlig opmærksomhed og bekymring situationen for Bahai-troens tilhængere i Iran.
Mr Forte, President-in-Office of the Foreign Ministers. — (IT) The Ten are keeping a close eye on the situa­tion of the Baha'is in Iran, which is a cause of great concern.
I året 1984 har de til stadig gjort en indsats både gennem de kompetente internationale instanser, især i Menneskerettighedskommissionen, og ved at optage direkte kontakt med de iranske myndigheder.
During 1984 they continued to do all they could in the competent international organizations — in particular, the Commission on Human Rights — or in direct contact with the Iranian authorities.
I denne forbin delse minder jeg om det skridt, der blev taget af De Ti i Teheran 2. oktober 1984.
I might remind you, for example, of the representation made by the Ten in Teheran on 2 October 1984.
Mit svar er derfor, at vi agter at øve det størst mulige pres under hensyntagen til opnåelse af de nyttigste resultater inden for menneskerettighederne. skerettighederne.
The Ten intend to continue taking any steps possible, as and when they appear most appropriate, in their dealings with the Iranian Authorities in the interests of fair treatment for the Baha'i community in that country. try.
Vil formanden undersøge, om der findes en anden måde, hvorpå man kunne forsøge at løse dette særdeles slvorlige problem for tilhænger ne af Bahai-troen?
This is an inhuman torture, morally and physically, and I would like to ask whether the Foreign Ministers would consider making representations in the fight of this disclosure.
Forte. — (IT) Spørgsmålet er ikke klart formuleret.
Mr Forte. — (IT) This was a hypothetical question — at least that is how it came out in the interpretation.
Hvis man beskriver mere effektive fremgangsmåder for os, vil vi bestemt søge at overveje dem.
My answer is similarly hypothetical: yes, we would.
Marshall (ED). — (EN) Som forslagsstiller af den betænkning, som blev vedtaget af Parlamentet i be gyndelsen af 1984, ønsker jeg over for formanden at udtrykke min anerkendelse af de skridt, Rådet har taget; er formanden imidlertid enig i, at de iranske ledere hidtil har været døve over for anmodninger udefra om at ændre denne forfærdende politik?
Mr De Vries. — (NL) I should like to thank the Italian Presidency for his answer, although it is not totally reassuring.
Den iranske revolution blev gennemført af en Guds mand.
The ruthless persecution of the Baha'is in Iran is virtually unparalleled in recent history.
Må jeg bede Rådet fortsætte pressionen og gøre det endnu stærkere, så de til slut ændrer denne aldeles afskyelige politik?
The cases of torture or imprisonment without trial or where the trial was a mere sham are innumerable.
Vandemeulebroucke (ARC). — (NL) Jeg tror ikke, at rådsformanden har forstået spørgsmålet fra min kol lega, hr. Habsburg, rigtigt.
Thousands of Baha'is have been killed since 1979 and this means that the political pressure which the Ten have brought to bear on Iran has been ineffective.
Han stillede nemlig spørgsmålet, om Rådet inden for rammerne af det politiske samarbejde er rede til samlet at gennemføre en aktion i FN.
I should like to ask the President of the Council quite simply whether or not he is prepared to enter into con sultation with the Political Affairs Committee of this Parliament with a view to determining whether other steps could possibly be taken jointly by the Ten in cooperation with the European Commission.
Det er der ikke kommet noget svar på. Det var absolut ikke noget hypotetisk spørgsmål.
Is he prepared to discuss this question once more on an informal basis this Parliament?
Derfor stiller jeg dette spørgsmål en gang til.
Mr Forte. — (IT) We will give this some considera tion, although the question was not very specific.
Forte. — (IT) Jeg ville bestemt gerne være Gud et øjeblik for i ro at kunne løse en række problemer, og naturligvis agter vi fortsat at udøve vor pression, som jeg har sagt det, på en fast og samtidig mere effektiv måde.
Mr Clinton (PPE). — I think the flow of representations that most of us get in our constituencies is fair evidence of the fact that whatever steps have been taken by the Council are not effective or have had very little effect.
Nu blev spørgsmålet klart formuleret, og mit svar vil være præcist.
We intend to take whatever action would appear most likely to produce results in the field of human rights.
Forte. — (IT) Spørgsmålet blev, i det mindste i over sættelsen, stillet på hypotetisk måde.
Mr Forte. — (IT) This question was somewhat vague.
Og mit svar lyder: de ville være villige til det.
If someone can suggest any more effective approaches, we will be glad to consider them.
I De forenede Nationer har man ofte drøftet problemerne i forbindelse med Bahai-tilhængernes situation i Iran især med henblik på overholdelse af menneske rettighederne.
Mr Marshall (ED). — As the author of the resolution passed by this Parliament early in 1984, may I congratulate the President-in-Office for the action the Council has taken; but would he accept that so far the rulers of Iran have been deaf to the pleas from outside for them to reverse this awful policy?
Dette var forudsætningerne for den samlede holdning og for Italiens holdning, og følgelig er holdningen hos det italienske formanskab klar på dette område.
Can I ask the Council to continue the pressure, and make it even stronger, so that, perhaps, they may eventually reverse this totally abhorrent policy?
Habsburg (PPE). — (DE) Efter at vi allerede så ofte har drøftet spørgsmålet om Bahai-troens tilhængere og kun har gjort den erfaring, at et vist pres fra den offentlige opinion ganske vist ikke har virket særlig meget, men dog lidt, ville jeg også gerne spørge, om det ikke var på tide, at Fællesskabets regeringer op fordres til at bruge FN mere, end det hidtil har været tilfældet.
Mr Vandemeulebroucke (ARC). — (NL) I do not think the President-in-Office correctly understood Mr Habsburg's question.
Man ser nemlig kun alt for ofte, at FN beskæftiger sig med alle mulige problemer, men allermindst med dette, selv om det jo er meget alvor ligt.
He asked whether the Foreign Ministers' meeting in political cooperation are pre pared to make joint representations to the United Nations.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 119 fra Deniau (H588/84)
This question was not answered.
Om: 40årsdagen for underskrivelsen af Yalta-aftalerne
It was not a hypothetical question at all and I have therefore repeated it.
Alavanos (COM). — (GR) For ganske nylig kom Toudheg-partiet, det kommunistiske perti i Iran, med en chokerende meddelelse.
Mr Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Very recently the Tudeh party, the Communist Party of Iran, made a
Ifølge denne blev de dødsdømte Toudheg-medlemmer ført til et hospital af de iranske myndigheder, hvor de under tvang og voldeligt blev tvunget til at afgive blod til anvendelse for den iranske hær i den iransk-irakiske krig, inden de blev ført for eksekutionspelotonen.
Mr Forte. — (IT) I did not, I think, give a hypothetical answer to this question, but to the question con cerning the possible method of torture consisting of draining the blood from persons condemned to death.
Dvs. at der er tale om en umenneskelig åndelig og korporlig tortur.
Now that the question has been clearly formulated I can give a precise answer.
Formanden ret til selv at bestemme over deres liv for en fundamental europæisk værdi, der gælder for hele vort kontinent og navnlig bør finde anvendelse på valget af interne politiske systemer og valget af militæralliancer?
The Ten will continue to stress the importance they attach to the full application of all the provisions of the Final Act while at the same time pursuing their policy of constructive dialogue and cooperation with the Soviet Union and the countries of Central and Eastern Europe.
sin tro. Jeg mener, at vi deler den samme civilisation og den samme kultur, og at vi ikke må glemme dette, for vi repræsenterer for dem et håb.
The problem of the Baha'is in Iran has frequently been discussed in the United Nations, with particular refer ence to the protection of human rights.
Jeg ville derfor ønske, hr. minister, at man i løbet af denne forhandling nævner det andet Europa, som også er vort Euro pa — de er europæere som vi — således at deres re præsentanter, som har opgivet alt, mistet alt, simpelt hen af kærlighed til friheden, kan vide, at vi anerkender, de er europæere, og ikke nægter dem håbet.
In March 1983 a resolution was adopted, with the firm support of Italy, requesting the Iranian Government to guarantee the respect of human rights and basic freedoms to all persons living in Iran, particularly in connection with the religious intolerance vis-à-vis the Baha'is and the dire consequences this has had.
Formanden. — Jeg vil gerne takke formanden for Rådet for de svar, han har givet.
The attitude of the Italian Presidency to this question should therefore be clear.
Spørgetiden er afsluttet (')·
Question No 119, by Mr Deniau (H-
De husker især, at den første grundsætning i Helsinkierklæringen nævner, at hver deltagerstat har ret til frit at vælge og udvikle sit eget politiske, sociale, økonomiske og kulturelle system.
Mr Deniau (L). — (FR) This was the answer I was afraid you would give. I had feared that when I men tioned the anniversary of Yalta — which did not result in an agreement as such but in recognition of a defacto situation — people would start talking about Helsinki.
Den samme grundsætning understreger i øvrigt, at hver deltager har ret til at tilhøre eller ikke tilhøre internationale organisationer, at indgå eller ikke indgå bilaterale eller multilaterale traktater, herunder retten til at tilslutte eller ikke til slutte sig militæralliancer.
It would appear that everyone has the impression that the Final Act of Helsinki is not being applied in spite of the fact that it is a treaty, i.e. an agreement, while the results of Yalta are being applied even though they only consisted of recognition of a de facto situation and not an agreement.
Formanden. — Ærede kollega, Europa-Parlamentets præsidium har henvist hele problemstillingen i for bindelse med spørgetiden til en arbejdsgruppe, da ingen er tilfreds med tingenes forløb, herunder beføjelser og sammensætningen af beføjelserne.
Could they also state what ways and means they intend to use to diminish the present division, which came about as a result of the Second World War, and prevent this situation, which is contrary to the fundamental rules of the law and of democracy, from continuing.
I løbet af to uger vil præsidiet fremsætte nye administrative bestemmelser.
Could they furthermore declare that the right to self-determination is a fundamental European value that should obtain throughout our continent and should apply in particular both to the choice of internal political systems and to membership of military alliances?
De Ti bekræfter på ny den universelle betydning af denne grundsætning og deres tilslutning til overholdelsen og udøvelsen af disse rettigheder og de praktiske foranstaltninger til fremme af forbindelserne mel lem personer og folkeslag og den frie bevægelighed på tværs af staternes grænser.
Mr President of the Council, I think we should all bear in mind in all the Institutions that peoples exist as well as States, and that there is another Europe where the people do not have the right to choose for them selves and for which we represent an ideal, with our freely elected Parliament, our representative govern ments and our countries where people are free to choose their friends and alliances and hold their own opinions and beliefs.
De Ti vil fortsat fremhæve den betydning, de tillægger den fuldstændige gen nemførelse af alle bestemmelserne i Helsinki-erklæringen.
As I see it, we form part of the same civilization and culture and we should not forget this fact since we embody a hope for this other Europe.
De følger samtidig stadig deres politik med sigte på en konstruktiv dialog og et samarbejde med Sovjetunionen og med landene i Mellemeuropa og Østeuropa.
I would therefore be pleased if this other Europe — which is also our Europe, since it consists of Europeans like ourselves — were mentioned in this debate so that their representatives, who have lost everything simply because of their attachment to free dom, might fully realize that we recognize them as fellow Europeans and have no wish to dash their hopes.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er be tænkning (dok.
President. — I think I should thank the President-in-Office of the Council for his answers.