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Jeg anser det for rigtigt, at Det europæiske Råd har haft en seriøs drøftelse, men ikke har lagt sig fast på noget, før komitéens rapport var færdig.
I think it is right that the European Council should have had a serious discussion but should not have taken up a position until the committee's report is completed.
Komitéen ønsker selv at gå mere udførligt ind på et par problemer, og jeg tror, der bør finde flere nyttige diskussioner sted i Parlamentet og i komitéen.
The committee itself wishes to develop a number of points more fully, and I think there are fur ther useful discussions to take place within the Parlia ment and the committee.
Eftersom komitéens arbejde har været fortroligt indtil nu, har de uformelle rådslagninger, der har fundet sted mellem Parlamentet og komitéen, været af begrænset karakter.
Because of the fact that up to this point the committee's work has been confidential, such consultations as have taken place informally between the Parliament and the committee have been limited in character.
Nu hvor interimsrapporten er blevet offentlig gjort, er der mulighed for at få en debat i Parlamentet, og for at få flere informationer fra det.
Now that the interim report has been published, there is the opportunity for a parlia mentary debate, for a fuller input from Parliament.
Jeg synes, det ville have været meget kedeligt, hvis Det euro pæiske Råd på nogen måde havde foregivet at have taget stilling til rapporten, før denne proces var tilendebragt.
I think it would have been a great pity if the European Council had in any way purported to take up a position on the report before that process had been carried through.
Jeg er overbevist om, at det har været rigtigt at behandle denne sag ved hjælp af en interimsrapport, at få den grundigt diskuteret, få den offentlig gjort og drøftet, og så at udarbejde en endelig rapport som basis for virkelig seriøse drøftelser i Det euro pæiske Råd.
I am satisfied that the right approach to this problem was to have an interim report, to have a serious discussion on it, to have it published, to have it debated and then to draw up a final report, that final report to be the subject of really serious discussion in the European Council.
Med hensyn til punkt 8 i hr. Spinellis beslutning, hvori han omtaler behovet for kontakt med med lemsstaternes parlamenter, et jeg helt indforstået.
The report of the European Commission has been accepted and it includes, if I may say so to Mr Arndt, a number of measures contained in the economic recovery pro gramme, of the Socialist Group.
Jeg har vanskeligheder med det første ord i beslutningsforslaget, idet der står, at Parlamentet pålægger komitéen...
So some progress has been made. What remains is to secure the implementation of the proposals included in the European Commission report and its acceptance in principle as a package, but in very general terms, by the European Council.
Jeg tror, det vil være ret vanskeligt for Parlamentet at pålægge en komité nedsat af regeringsover. hoveder noget, men det vil ikke få svært ved at få komitéen til at samarbejde, når det gælder yderligere konsultationer med Parlamentet.
If I may address Parliament, Sir, 1 think that if we are to make progress here and if member govern ments are to face their obligations and are to be encouraged to carry through their commitments, it is important that Parliament should play its role fully.
Så når vi ser bort fra verbet, kan jeg tilslutte mig hele resten af punkt 8, og det tror jeg også, at komitéen kan.
The one disappointment to me in the debate today was that excepting Mr Arndt — and I hope I am not being unfair to anybody else — there has been relatively lit tle discussion of these issues and if progress is to be made, governments must come under pressure from Parliament in a way which has not been evident here today.
Jeg tror, disse drøftelser vil blive konstruktive.
That last point I make as Taoiseach rather than as President.
Her i Parlamentet, hvor man har taget et yderst vigtigt initiativ for at opnå virkelige fremskridt henimod en euro pæisk enhed, er man utålmodig over for forsinkelser på dette område.
It has also invited the Commission and Parliament to examine with it ways in which the cooperation necessary for a budgetary discipline common to all three institutions may be brought about.
Dette forslag fandt jeg fuldt acceptabelt, og det finder jeg bedre, end at komitéens rapport skulle bli
And in the later stages of the budgetary process all the powers and prerogatives of Parliament
Jeg forstår godt, hvorfor hun kan få denne opfattelse.
I can understand why.
Men jeg vil gerne påpege, for det første at der har været en del møder i Det europæiske Råd som slet ikke tog fat på disse spørgsmål.
You in this Parliament, who have been so responsible for the initiative for a serious movement towards European union, are impatient at delays in this respect.
For det andet må jeg sige, at ligesom De her i Parlamentet af og til har vanskeligt ved at enes om beslutninger og forene modstridende syns punkter, et det i praksis meget vanskeligt at udarbejde en politisk hensigtserklæring, der er repræsentativ for ti medlemsstaters synspunkter, på en måde, alle kan acceptere, uden af og til at forfalde til benaliteter,
But to look at it realistically, it was put to the European Council that to attempt to discuss this matter in March and to bring it to a conclusion with the outstanding business at that time, which clearly was going to include matters relating to enlargement — in particular, the integrated Mediterranean programmes — would have so reduced the time for discussion that that discussion might not have been fruitful and that it was much bet-
FitzGerald for alt, hvad der er for præcist, vækker som oftest modvilje hos nogle af medlemslandenes regeringer.
FitzGerald specific will tend to come up against reluctance on the part of some member governments at least about expressing the point.
— at vi sammen kan opbygge det Fællesskab, vi forsøger at skabe.
I was happy to accept that proposal and I prefer it to the idea that the committee's report might be dealt with in a cur sory, summary, inadequate way at the March European Council.
Jeg håber og tror, at vi til næste juni vil tage et afgørende skridt i denne retning, og at vi i forbindelse hermed ikke blot vil imødekomme Parlamentets synspunkter, men hele det initiativ, det har taget, idet det, særlig som svar til hr. Spinelli, har haft en vision af fremtidens Europa, som ganske vist stadig vil kunne volde vanskeligheder for adskillige regeringer, og som man på enklte punkter kan være uenig i, men hvis hovedlinjer ikke desto mindre er noget, som jeg tror de fleste, om ikke alle medlems­landenes regeringer er enige med hinanden og med Parlamentet om.
While I regret the delay, I urge you and Mr Spinelli to accept that the extra three months may prove very worthwhile, both in terms of giving member govern ments a chance to reflect on the report before taking a position and in ensuring that adequate time will be given at the European Council to discuss it.
Må jeg komme med en personlig bemærkning, der bygger på lang erfaring med politisk samarbejde helt tilbare til 1973?
May I make a personal observation from long experience of political cooperation going back to 1973?
Jeg tror, man bør skelne mellem de erklæringer, der fremsættes af Rådet for generelle an­liggender eller af Det europæiske Råd om politisk samarbejde, og så selve det politiske samarbejde.
I think one should distinguish between the declarations that are made either by the General Affairs Council or by the European Council on political cooperation matters, and the actual process of political cooperation itself.
Det er desværre uundgåeligt, at de erklæringer, der frem­sættes, må være meget generelle og temmelig begræn­sede for at vinde tilslutning fra alle medlemsstater, ikke blot til de pæne tanker i dem, men til, at disse tanker kan offentliggøres som de ti medlemslandes opfattelse.
It is inevitable, I feel, regretfully, that the declarations made have to be very general in form and some what limited in scope in order to command the assent of all Member States, not merely to the sentiments in them, but to the publication of those sentiments as the views of ten member countries.
Jeg håber, vi vil gribe denne chance.
I can not, of course, as President, commit the European Council in this matter; I can only say that the question of an intergovernmental conference was referred to in our discussions.
Croux (PPE). ­ (NL) Hr. formand, da jeg for lidt siden lyttede til premierminister FitzGerald, fik jeg denne tanke: det er en mand med god vilje, som med megen energi og stor indsats har gjort sit bedste for at få topmødet i Dublin til at lykkes, men desværre ikke kunne gøre mere, fordi han befinder sig i en svag struktur.
I think Parliament will have some difficulty in instruct ing a committee which was appointed by Heads of Government, but it will have no difficulty in securing the cooperation of the committee in further consultation with Parliament. So, leaving aside the verb, I can accept all the rest of paragraph 8 and I believe the committee can do so too.
Det er nu Europas drama : en stærk idé, men en svag struktur.
I believe that those discussions will be constructive.
Men dette betyder ikke, at drøftelserne om politisk samarbejde ikke har haft stor betydning ñied hensyn til at samordne medlemsstaternes udenrigspolitiske holdning, hvilket efter min mening endnu ikke påskønnes tilstrækkeligt.
That does not mean, however, that the discussions on political cooperation have not had a profound effect on bringing together the approaches of member coun tries to foreign policy in a way which I think is still inadequately appreciated.
Jeg husker meget tydeligt den store forskel, der var i 1973, da jeg blev mit lands udenrigsminister, mellem medlemslandenes holdning til forskellige udenrigspolitiske spørgsmål, som de aldrig havde drøftet indbyrdes.
I remember with great clarity when I became Minister of Foreign Affairs of my country in 1973 the wide differences that existed between member countries on foreign-policy issues which they had never discussed together.
F.eks. var der i mel­lemøstlige spørgsmål en afgrund mellem visse med­lemslande.
For example, on the Middle East, there was a gulf between someMember States and others.
Men i løbet af fem år var medlemslan­dene nået frem til et fælles syn på Mellemøsten.
Within five years the mem ber countries had come to form a common view on the Middle East.
Sene­re har de taget fat på andre spørgsmål, såsom det sydlige Afrika óg Mellemamerika, og er også her kommet hinanden meget nærmere i deres opfattelse af, hvad der er kernen i problemerne.
Since then they have been approaching other issues such as Southern Africa and Central America and have also come much closer together in the perception of the real situation.
De finder det ikke altid muligt eller formålstjenligt offentligt at give udtryk for deres virkelige opfattelse med formulerin­ger, som alle kan tilslutte sig, men man bør ikke undervurdere den grad af tilnærmelse, der er sket mellem medlemslandene under disse interne drøftel­ser, og som har ført til en langt mere ensartet vurde­ring af disse spørgsmål, end de havde for nogle år siden.
They do not always find it possible or politic to make a public state ment of precisely what they feel in language that all can assent to, but one should not underestimate the extent to which in these internal discussions our coun tries have moved together in forming a much more united appraisal of these issues than was the case some years ago.
Jeg for min del vil i hvert fald ikke undervur­dere det politiske samarbejde, der foregår, hvor me­get man end kan kritisere enkelte offentlige udtalel­ser.
I would for one never undervalue the pro cess of political cooperation, however one may criticize particular declarations made publicly.
På min gruppes, det europæiske folkepartis gruppes, vegne, hr. formand om Dooge­komitéens interims­rapport og om den konsekvens, som Rådet i Dublin har draget deraf.
Mr President, those are my responses, partly on behalf of the Presidency, partly on my own behalf, and I trust that the record of my remarks will distinguish adequately between the two so that none of my nine colleagues will accuse me of saying things on their behalf which they do not agree with.
Naturligvis er vi tilfredse med inte­rimsrapportens indhold På det tidspunkt, da jeg stil­lede mit spørgsmål, mente jeg, at man henimod de­cember måned aldrig ville være kommet så langt med Dooge­komitéens arbejde.
I have tried to deal in a practical way with the different issues raised, and I feel that the kind of dialogue that we have had today, the opportunity to listen to your comments here and for me to respond is useful.
Det følger Parlamentets fi­losofi: man kan genfinde Parlamentets metode og ånd deri, selv om det endnu ikke er i tilstrækkelig grad, men der er alligevel et tydeligt holdepunkt.
I hope that if this is a precedent — I understand it is — it will be followed in the future, for it is only through this kind of dialogue between Parliament and the Council, with all its imperfections and with some of its dangers — of which I am very conscious also, personally — that we can build together the kind of Community we are seeking to build.
Hr. formand, dette var mit svar, dels som rådsfor­mand, dels på egne vegne, og jeg går ud fra, at der i forhandlingsreferatet vil blive skelnet mellem disse ting, så at ingen af mine ni kolleger vil anklage mig for at sige ting på deres vegne, som de ikke er enige i.
Finally — and I am trying to be very brief, Mr President — to cover the main issues that were raised in the debate as I have tried to note them and to deal with them in some coherent form, Mrs Veil referred to the declarations in the framework of political cooperation by the European Council as 'banal'.
Hvis dette er en præcedens — hvad jeg forstår, det er — vil det forhåbentlig blive fulgt op i fremtiden, for det er kun gennem denne form for dialog mellem Parlamentet og Rådet med alle dens ufuldkommenheder og med de farer, den indebærer — og som jeg personlig også er helt opmærksom på
It is better that the European Council should at least discuss these matters, tackle them and make some declaration than that they should make none.
Vi må nemlig ikke spilde tiden. Ideen med den euro­pæiske union går helt tilbage til regeringschefernes
Secondly, it is very difficult in practice — just as you in this Parliament have difficulty in reaching agree ment on resolutions at times, in sorting out different points of view — to draft a statement of policy to be representative of the views of ten Member States in language that all can agree to without at times des cending to a certain banality, because anything too
I 1972 og 1973 sagde man, at den europæiske union burde være gen nemført henimod slutningen af årtiet, dvs. 1980.
FitzGerald and 1973 it was said that European Union should be achieved by the end of the decade, by 1980.
Nu er vi i 1984, og i mellemtiden går det tilbage for Europa hver dag.
It is now 1984, and Europe is losing ground by the day.
Jeg vil ikke mere gentage det, som så ofte er sagt her om genrejsningen af økonomien og kampen mod arbejdsløsheden.
I do not want to repeat what has been said here so often about economic recovery and the fight against unemployment. ployment.
Tillad mig også at henvise til et andet aktuelt punkt, som også har været på dagsordenen i dag, nemlig Europas rolle i bekæmpelsen af hungersnøden i Afrika.
Allow me to mention another topical issue that has been discussed today, the Community's role in measures to combat famine in Africa.
Jeg husker stadig meget tydeligt, at kommissær Pisani, efter at være blevet spurgt om årsagerne til nødsituationen i Etiopien og Sahel, her på samme sted for en måned siden i den dramatisk tale på et vist tidspunkt råbte: »vi er alle skyldige og på en særlig måde er la vie paralysante et paralytique de la Comunauté skyldigt«. Dette var hans ordvalg.
I well remember Commissioner Pisani, when asked about the causes of the emergency in Ethiopia and the Sahel, saying in this very Chamber a month ago in a dramatic speech: 'We are all to blame, and la vie paralysante et paralytique de la Communauté in particular.'
Vi vidste allerede for mange år siden, hvordan situationen i Afrika var.
We have been aware of the situation in Africa for years.
Det er allerede blevet sagt ofte her.
It has often been discussed here.
Fællesskabet har imidlertid ikke været i stand til at gribe ind.
But the Community has been unable to take action.
Det første spor er aktionen på Rådets, regeringernes, nu Doogekomiteens plan, for det har vi sagt i beslutningen den 14. februar: vi henvender os først og fremmest til regeringerne. Der diskuterer man det, ingen havde måske for nogle måneder siden turdet håbe dette, og ingen havde turdet forvente, at man allerede nu skulle være kommet så langt.
Having put behind us, I hope, by June next all the internal quarrels, the internecine struggles that we have had over issues that should never have evoked such tensions and never have taken so much time, having achieved enlargement and got that settled, we have the opportunity then, and then is the moment to make progress.
Vi tilføjer, at Europa-Parlamentet må inddrages deri. Det er klart.
I hope we will grasp that opportunity.
Vi har allerede i lang tid vidst, at man ikke kan bekæmpe arbejdsløsheden uden en virkelig europæisk integration, men vi gør ikke noget ved det.
We have long known that we cannot fight unemployment without real European integration, but we do nothing about it.
Da hr. FitzGerald for lidt siden sagde, at han var forbavset over, at der hidtil ikke er talt meget om arbejdsløshedsproblematikken her, så kan vi jo minde ham om, at vi allerede så ofte har sat fingeren på det ømme punkt.
When Mr FitzGerald says, as he has just done, that he is surprised so little has so far been said about the problem of unemployment, we must surely remind him of the many occasions on which we have pointed to the cause of this problem.
Der er et andet spor.
IN THE CHAIR: MR PLASKOVITIS
Ud fra et demokratisk synspunkt må der tages ordentligt hensyn hertil.
This is the present tragedy of Europe: a strong idea but a weak structure.
Og når man i dag stadig må diskutere budgetdisciplin og budgettet for 1985 i Parlamentet, så ved vi jo godt, for det er jo allerede blevet sagt så ofte, at man nu skændes om én mia ECU, medens der hvert år går hundrede mia ECU tabt, fordi vi har for lidt Europa. Det er endog nævnt i et nyligt dokument fra Kom missionen, som den netop har forelagt Dooge-komi-téen.
And while we are still having to discuss budgetary discipline and the 1985 budget in this Parliament, we know only too well, because it has been said so often, that, while we may now be squabbling over 1.000m ECU, hundreds of millions of ECU are wasted every year because we have not made enough progress in the Community.
Vi har således ingen tid at spilde, og vi opfordrer derfor Parlamentet og Rådet til ikke at lade pro jektet om institutionelle forbedringer ligge, til at gøre noget ved det og i de førstkommende måneder holde en forhandling derom.
So we have no time to lose, and we therefore urge this Parliament and the Council not to leave the plans for institutional improvements on the shelf but to get on with the job and debate the subject in the next few months.
Hr. Klepsch, har sagt : vi har i øjeblikket egentlig en slags oligarkisk regime uden tilstrækkelig demokratisk parlamentarisk kontrol. Ingen kan egentlig kontrollere Rådet i politisk henseende på demokratisk vis.
A question that becomes more urgent as time passes is this: who wants to press ahead?
Vi må således tilbage til de nationale parlamenter for at forelægge dem spørgsmålene vedrørende demokratiet i Europa og fremfor alt vedrørende effektiviteten i Europa.
Because one thing is clear from the Dooge Committee's report and from the reactions of the ten Member States: three have expressed reservations about various shades of meaning, some hint at the possibility of greater consensus, but the report itself clearly says that the principle of la différenciation de la règle communautaire must be applied.
Vi har nu opstillet et program for de kommende måneder og vil udforme dette nærmere.
We said this during our debate on the draft treaty on European Union on 14 February 1984.
Et spørgsmål, som trænger sig stadig mere på hos os, er: hvem vil være med til at gøre fremskridt?
On behalf of my group, the EPP, Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, I should like to say a few words about the interim report of the Dooge Committee and the action taken on it by the Council in Dublin.
Hvilke medlemsstater vil gå med på vejen mod den euro pæiske union?
We are, of course, satisfied with what the interim report has to say.
For det er blevet tydeligt, både af Dooge-interimsrapportens tekst og af de ti medlems staters reaktioner.
At the time I put my question I did not think so much could have been done about the activities of the Dooge Committee by December.
Tre har taget forbehold med for skellige nuancer, nogle lader skinne igennem, at man kan opnå endnu større enighed, men i selve teksten siges det tydeligt, at princippet om la différenciation de la règle communautaire skal anvendes. Det har vi sagt i vore forhandlinger om det udkast til den euro pæiske union, som vi vedtog den 14. februar 1984.
The report reflects Parliament's philosophy, its methods and spirit, not sufficiently so, but there is definitely a link.
Man taler somme tider om Euro-sclerose, forkalkning, stivhed, og hvis vi sammenligner os med resten af verden, med Japan, med De forenede Stater, med Stillehavsområdet, så gør vi os virkelig store bekymringer derover.
We must take this road, which does not mean a twospeed Europe, one of the richer countries and another of the poorer countries, because, let it be noted, it is often the very prosperous who are most opposed to political union.
Over for dette imponerende tal passer kun ét svar: hvis vi vil have blot nogen fremtid, må vi samarbejde.
tion that has been tabled by the Committee on Institutional Affairs clearly confirms this.
For det første har den bekymring, vi gav udtryk for efter topmødet i Fontainebleau, vist sig at være fuldt berettiget.
Mr Toksvig (ED). — (DA) Mr President, I rise to speak in the first instance in order to thank Dr FitzGerald for what is without doubt the best speech I have heard in the six months I have been here in Par liament.
Det kompromis, som man har fundet sig foranlediget til at indrømme fru Thatcher, har tynget stærkt på resultaterne fra Dublin.
It was a strong speech which was above all European and which invoked all the European ideas that should inspire all of us here in this chamber.
Budgetdisciplinen åbenbarer sig og viser sit sande ansigt: voldsomme indhug i landmændenes garantier og fornægtelse af Parlamentets budgetbeføjelser.
He is so very right in that, but he put it in such a way as to set a standard of eloquence which we would all find it difficult to follow.
Toksvig (ED). — Hr. formand, jeg rejser mig først og fremmest for at takke hr. FitzGerald for, hvad der uden tivivl er den bedste tale, jeg har hørt i de seks måneder, jeg har været her i Parlamentet.
The first track consists of action at the level of the Council, of the governments and now of the Dooge Committee, because this is what we said in the resolution of 14 February: we tackle the governments first.
Det var en stærk tale, der først og fremmest var europæisk, og som kaldte på alle de europæiske tanker, som vi alle her i salen burde være besjælet af.
The discussions are under way at this level, which per haps no one dared to hope a few months ago, and no one would have dreamt that so much progress would be made.
Han nævnte, at Det europæiske Råd ikke skulle være nogen appelinstans, og at politikere måtte føle, at forholdet mellem Rådet og Parlamentet var utilfredsstillende.
But we insist that this work continue, and we intend to take up Prime Minister FitzGerald's suggestion that everything possible should be done to have a largescale debate on the subject before the European Council meeting in Milan.