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Pitt (S). — (EN) Til forretningsordenen, fru formand.
In a word, we must have a way of enforcing our directives which are too often disregarded.
Jeg vil gerne gøre opmærksom på en fejl på første side, før fru Scrivener forelægger denne betænkning.
And what do we hear now, in the middle of this debate and this crisis?
Min kollega, hr. Tomlinson, og jeg deltog i budgetudvalgets møde og deltog i alle afstemningerne.
The Commission simply comes up with proposals to reduce the Mediterranean areas under vines by some 25% in six years.
Der er rent faktisk blevet omdelt et dokument vedrørende
Imagine how people will react to proposals of this kind.
Jeg er her for at tjene dette Parlament og alle dets medlemmer. Dette dokument vil blive ændret, som jeg har sagt.
On 14 February last this Assembly adopted, subject to ratification by the Member States, a draft treaty on European Union, which constituted a new step in the unification of the Community.
Hr. Cot har givet en undskyldning til de pågældende medlemmer.
However, this has not come as a surprise to many of us, since we
Parlamentet har noteret sig, hvad der er blevet sagt.
It is against this backdrop that we are conducting today's debate and that I say to my British colleagues
Budgetudvalget henstiller for det første, at Kommissionens to forslag til forordning sammensmeltes til en forordning, selv om de a priori skal dække forskellige behov : et sikkert underskud for 1984 og et sandsynligt underskud for 1985.
Europe can really afford to contribute to the Community, and not, as we usually do, think only in terms of the Member States as such, and their budgets.
Men, hr. rådsformand, syntes De ikke, det er noget paradoksalt at anmode Parlamentet om at handle hurtigt, når Rådet samtidigt ikke be slutter noget som helst, og endvidere til trods for det, der er aftalt insisterer på at henvise til budgetdisciplinen for at sætte en hæmsko på Parlamentets beføjelser uden hensyn til de bestemmelser, der er fastsat i traktaterne.
These are the important facts and I should like to conclude by saying that the Roman empire is no more, not so much as a result of internal strife as of its reliance on foreign imports at the expense of its agriculture.
Når dette er sagt, vil jeg gerne gå i gang med det spørgsmål, som interessere os her til formiddag.
We will not build up a united Europe, the heir to the European Christian tradition, by sacrificing its agriculture.
1985-budgettet kan lige så lidt som 1984budgettet genneføres inden for rammerne af 1 % af merværdiafgiften medmindre, selvfølgelig, man vil standse ud viklingen af de fælles politikker og påbegynde en gennationalisering af landbrugspolitikken.
Madam President, ladies and gentlemen, it is only right and proper, as the rapporteur of the Committee on Budgets suggests, that we should seriously and resolutely get down to defining our rights. And let us also stress, as far as the economic situation is concerned, that the Council's attitude is just not good enough.
Det problem, vi står over for, drejer sig således om finansiering af Fællesskabet for hele den periode, der går forud for indførslen af det nye system for egne indtægter.
But, let us make no mistake about it, this is not going to get us out of this situation, which is becoming progressively unacceptable, and it is for these reasons that, in itself, I have nothing against the kind of unanimity we can witness here today.
Der må findes en helhedsløsning på dette problem.
How ever, this is not the sort of unanimity which will solve our problems.
Man må jo erkende, at Fællesskabet ikke kan fungere effektivt, uden at der er sikkerhed for de nødvendige ressourcer til dækning af de udgifter, der er vedtaget af budgetmyndigheden. Hertil kommer, at kontinuiteten af Fællesskabspolitikkerne kræver en økonomisk sikkerhed, som kun kan opnås gennem indtægter, der strækker sig over flere år.
Mr Pannella (NI). — (FR) Madam President, ladies and gentlemen, on each of these occasions when the views of the various contingents in this Parliament have apparently or in fact tended to converge — either out of conservatism or in self-defence — we have, I think, nevertheless drawn attention to the increasingly pressing need to deal with these problems in depth before the crisis in Europe becomes total.
Parlamentet understregede allerede ved vedtagelsen af 1984-budgettet, at det ville blive nødvendigt at fremskaffe yderligere midler.
Mr Pitt (S). — On a point of order, Madam President, before Mrs Scrivener moves this report, may I draw attention to an inaccuracy on the first page?
Allerede i april gjorde Kommissionen Rådet og Parlamentet opmærksom på, at budgetbevillingerne var utilstrækkelige.
My colleague, Mr Tomlinson, and I attended the meeting of the Committee on Budgets and participated in all of its voting.
Det er klart, selv om det endnu ikke er præciseret, hvor meget der mangler — dette vil blive gjort, når bud getmyndigheden drøfter det nødvendige tillægsbudget for 1984 — at der mangler en betydelig sum for at de forpligtelser, Fællesskabet har indgået, særlig på land brugsområdet kan opfyldes.
Indeed, a document on the legality of the position and status of the Committee on Budgets has been distributed to the committee as a result of our intervention.
Det er ligeledes urealistisk at foregive, at udgifterne for 1985 kan holdes inden for de nuværende grænser for egne indtægter; dette fremgik i øvrigt ved behandlingen af det bud getforslag, der blev forelagt af Kommissionen, som skønner, at de nødvendige udgifter kræver en pro centdel af merværdiafgiften på 1,12.
One thing is certain, and that is that the institutional question to which the budgetary wrangling has given rise is of a fundamental nature. We in Parliament have said what we think on the subject, i.e. that immediate reforms are vital at the legal and institutional level, since otherwise our institutions themselves will inevitably engender another crisis instead of providing solutions to the existing one.
Endelig udelukker vedtagelsen af en enkelt forordning ikke på nogen måde muligheden for at egentlige nye egne indtægter i 1984 ikke erstattes af forskud. Det er hensigten, at forordningen ikke længere skal anvendes, når det nye system for egne indtægter træder i kraft.
Could I ask that we be recorded properly as having been present and having participated, especially since we fundamentally disagree with the motion for a resolution contained here and have tabled a major amend ment opposing it?
Kommissionen har for at løse denne situation, forelagt to forslag til forordning.
President. — Mr Pitt, that is not a matter for this House but rather for the Committee on Budgets.
Forslaget for 1984 bygger delvis på den betænkning, der blev udarbejdet i maj af budgetudvalget.
Even if these reforms were to be introduced tomorrow — which will unfortunately not be the case — the policy involved would probably not be sufficiently ambitious.
EF-Kommissionen fraviger den oprindelige fremgangsmåde som består af lån med forrentning og accepterer forskud på egne indtægter.
We cannot merely point to the crisis in the common agricultural policy and, in particular, the fate of the farmers in the Community.
Man må sige, at der her foreligger en væsentlig ændring i fremgangsmåden.
What is in fact happening is that we are giving up any possibility we might have had of conducting large-scale European policies in the world and in Europe itself and, in view of this, we could even spare ourselves our existing expenses, since if money is spent badly, it would be better not spent at all.
Parlamentets budgetudvalg mener også, at det er nødvendigt at ændre Kommissionens forslag om end nu et spørgsmål, som vil berøre loftet for de forskud, der er indeholdt i de to forslag til forordning.
Mr Pitt (S). — I will take note of your point if you will take note of the fact, Madam President, that the document is headed 'European Parliament working documents'.
Det forholder sig ikke mindst sådan for 1985-budgettet: det drejer sig ikke længere, som i 1984, om at skaffe midler til yderligere landbrugsudgifter, men om at skaffe midler til hele budgettet.
We must deal with the problem of inheritance, and political, economic and financial investment in Europe, not only in terms of the Member States as such, but also of the citizens themselves.
Rådet kunne således, hvis det fulgte Kommissionens forslag, let og efter behag lægge loft over budgettes størrelse, alt efter sin egen fortolkning — og vi ved, hvor denne form for beregninger er vanskelige — af traktatens artikel 203. Man må derfor udelade de lofter, som forekommer i
There are a lot of millionaires in Sicily — officially this is not the case, even though there are many in the United King dom and Germany — but all the citizens have to fork out the same amounts, regardless of the region they come from or other considerations.
Parlamentets budgetudvalg har foretaget en grundig undersøgelse af de to forslag, både fra et juridisk og et politisk synspunkt.
President. — I have taken note of that point, Mr Pitt.
forslaget til forordning, idet størrelsesordenen af de nødvendige yderligere indtægter er defineret under budgetproceduren og, jeg gentager, dette er gjort i overensstemmelse med traktatens bestemmelser.
munity has entered into, particularly in the agricultural sector. Similarly, it is unrealistic to think that it will be possible to cover expenditure for 1985 without increasing own resources, as is also reflected, more over, in the Commission's preliminary draft budget, in which it is estimated that the expenditure required would necessitate a VAT rate of 1.12%.
Endelig, det sidste spørgsmål : det juridiske grundlag, som Kommissionen anvender.
The proposal for 1984 is partly based on the report drawn up in May by the Committee on Budgets.
Anvendelse af traktatens artikel 235 forekommer os uhensigtsmæssig og farlig; anvendelsen, hvad angår indtægter, forekom mer os tvivlsom.
The Commission has rejected the original idea of loans with interest and has accepted the idea of interest-free advances on future own resources.
»Medlemsstaterne træffer alle almindelige eller særlige foran staltninger, som er egnede til at sikre opfyldelsen af de forpligtelser, som følger af denne Traktat, eller af retsakter foretaget af Fællesskabets institutioner«.
Obviously, before the vote is taken the Assembly must be informed of the corrections to be made but, as I see it, Mr Pitt was quite right in what he said, and your correction of him struck me as somewhat anti-Labour.
Jeg er et nyt medlem her i Parlamentet, men jeg anmoder ikke om særlige fordele af denne grund.
The aim of the proposal for 1985 is different, accord ing to the Commission.
Jeg taler som en, der har deltaget i et direkte valg, som var ret forskelligt fra valgene i nogle af de andre Fæl lesskabslande. Jeg siger dette som en indledning til mine bemærkninger om budgettet, fordi det til en vis grad afspejler grundene til, at vi befinder os her.
It is designed to enable a budget to be adopted for 1985 in which the 1% VAT ceiling is exceeded while coverage of expenditure is guaranteed, even if the new system of own resources were not to enter into force on 1 October 1985 as the Commission hopes — perhaps too optimistically.
Det hjælper os med at nå frem til sagens kærne.
President. — Mr von der Vring, I am not anti-anybody.
Jeg tænker på det, vi burde drøfte i dag, i modsætning til det, vi drøfter.
I am here to serve the purposes of this House and all the Members in it.
I England, har vi jo valgkredsrepræsentation.
This document will be amended, as I have said.
Her må man handle, medlemsstaterne har en bindende pligt til at handle.
The Committee on Budgets has examined these two proposals in depth from both legal and political angles.
Denne forpligtelse støttes af artikel 199, som kræver, at indtægter og udgifter på budgettet skal balancere, men også af artikel 203, st. 10.
It has put forward a number of amendments concern ing three aspects of the Commission proposals, on which this House is called on to vote.
Budgetudvalget mener det derfor nødvendigt, ef ter at have hørt Rådets mening, at ændre forordningernes juridiske grundlag og at udskifte artikel 235 med EØF-traktatens artikel 199 og 203 samt de til svarende artikler i Euratom-traktaten. Der foreligger her, kære kolleger, ikke blot et spørgsmål om form eller procedure, men også et vigtigt politisk spørgsmål.
The three aspects are as follows: the introduction of a single regulation for the entire period before the increase in own resources comes into force, the deletion of any reference as to the amounts which might be involved when own resources are increased and the modification of the legal basis for these regulations.
Det er så de væsentligste ændringer, som Parlamentets budgetudvalg anmoder Dem om at foretage af EF-Kommissionens forslag.
However, do you not agree, Mr President of the Council, that it is somewhat paradoxical that you should now be calling on the Parliament to act swiftly while, at the same time, the Council is taking no deci sions and is, moreover, insisting on the basis of what has come to be known as budgetary discipline, on hindering Parliament in the exercise of its powers, contrary to the provisions of the Treaty?
Vi opfatter Parlamentet på en sådan måde, at vi mener, at man lige skal trække sig lidt tilbage, før man stemmer om de erklæringer og dokumenter, der lægges foran en, og spørge sig selv, hvorfor man er her.
Firstly, the Committee on Budgets advocates fusing the two regulations proposed by the Commission into a single regulation, even though at first sight they would appear designed to meet different needs, i.e. an inevitable deficit in 1984 and a probable deficit in 1985.
Der foreligger dog yderligere økonomiske behov på dette tidspunkt, allerede i dag.
Having made this point, I should like to go into the question before us this morning.
Hvis vi ønsker, at Fællesskabet skal fortsætte sit arbejde, ja, hvis vi ønsker, at Fællesskabet ganske simpelt fortsat skal eksistere, må man give det midlerne dertil.
It will not be possible to implement the 1985 budget, any more than the 1984 budget, within the limits imposed by the 1 % VAT ceiling unless, of course, we want to call a halt to the development of common policies and move towards a renationalization of agricultural policy.
Formanden. — Før jeg giver hr. Pitt ordet, vil jeg gerne lige informere ham om, at jeg har fået udarbej
There is no way in which the Community can operate efficiently unless it can rely on the funds necessary to cover the expenditure agreed on by the budgetary
Vi mener endvidere, at det er Parlamentets opgave at tale på disse menneskers vegne og at undersøge en udøvende lovgivning grundigt.
As long ago as April, the Commission drew the attention of the Council and this Parliament to the inadequacy of the budgetary appropriations.
spørgsmål, der påvirker dem, og hvad angår budget tet, mener jeg, at det drejer sig om følgende spørgsmål — ingen af hvilke er blevet nævnt i denne forhandling.
Finally, if a single regulation is adopted, this would in no way rule out the possibility of real new own resources taking the place of the advances in 1985 since it is intended that the single regulation would cease to apply as soon as the new system of own resources came into operation.
Budgettet er ikke et spørgsmål om juridisk gyldighed, om mekanismer, om artikler, traktater, og forordninger.
Furthermore, this obligation is reinforced by Article 199, which stipulates that there must be a balance between revenue and expenditure, and by Article 203 (10).
Budgettet er et spørgsmål om folks skatter, folks direkte betalinger, og om hvordan de penge bliver brugt.
It is for this reason that the Committee on Budgets, having heard the Commission's opinion, nevertheless feels that the legal basis for the regulations should be changed, i.e. that instead of Article 235, they should be based on Article 5, 199 and 203 of the EEC Treaty and the corresponding Article in the Euratom Treaty.
Om de bliver brugt til ting der er af betydning for skatteyderen, eller om de bliver brugt på andre ting.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is not so much a formal or procedural question, but an important political question.
Det er det, der er Parlamentets funktion, det mener vi i den engelske Labour-gruppe her i Parlamentet i hvert fald.
These then were the principal modifications to the Commission proposals recommended by the Committee on Budgets.
Hr. Fich sagde: »hvorfor igen en budgetdebat, når der intet er sket siden juli«.
This has taken far too long and will not enter into force for another year at least.
Med al respekt for hr. Fich, er det simpelt hen ikke rigtigt.
However, we already need sup plementary financing.
Der er sket fire ting, som jeg mener er af enorm betydning, og som jeg mener, vi må tage hen syn til.
If the Community is to continue its work — indeed, if we want the Community simply to continue to exist, it must be provided with the necessary funds.
Jeg mener, at det er af enorm betydning.
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Vi ser, at de mennesker, vi repræsenterer, står negative over for ideen om et forenet Europa på grund af de trivielle spørgsmål, der rejses af så mange med lemmer fra så mange lande inklusive vort eget fra tid til anden.
President. — Before calling Mr Pitt I would just like to inform him that I have had a corrigendum prepared which will be circulated immediately in order to record the attendance at the Committee on Budgets correctly during this partsession.
Harmonisering af øl, harmonisering af pølser, kørsel i venstre vejside er ikke de spørgsmål, der påvirker mennesker i deres lokale supermarked, på deres arbejdsplads eller i deres hjem.
Mr Pitt (S). — Madam President, I am most grateful for your correction of the document before us to make it accurate.
For det andet synes jeg, at der forekom en meget interessant sætning i slutningen af den tale, hr. O'Keeffe holdt fra formandstolen i går.
The Committee on Budgets also thinks that another aspect of the Commission proposals should be amended, i.e. the ceilings for the advances indicated in the two proposals for regulations.
Hr. O'Keeffe sagde, og jeg prøver at citere hans ord nøjagtigt: »Det ville være meget gavnligt for det irske formandskab, hvis Parlamentet kunne gå med til at frigøre den engelske tilbagebetaling«.
The Commission has, of course, assured us that these ceilings were only intended as rough guidelines, but I do not think this assurance is good enough, based as it is on a very free interpretation of the text.
Han kvalificerede ikke dette. Jeg mener dog, at dette er endnu en væsentlig ting der er sket.
This would be particularly true in the case of the 1985 budget, since it would no longer simply be a matter of finding extra financing for agricultural expenditure, as in the case of 1984, but rather of financing the whole budget.
Parlamentet er blevet anmodet om at ændre mening, hvad angår dets afstemning i juli.
Thus, the ceilings indicated in the proposed regulations should be deleted, and the amount of supplementary financing required decided under the budgetary procedure in accordance, I repeat, with the provisions of the Treaties.
For det tredje sagde kommissær Tugendhat til os i går — og det var en meget vigtig ting — at Kommissionen har indbragt Rådet for Domstolen for at få det til at påtage sig sit ansvar med hensyn til budgettet. Om det kan man heller ikke sige, at »der intet er sket«.
I would like to draw Parliament's attention to the Council's plan, which is to make use of the structural funds for an amount even greater than originally proposed by the Commission — which had already been the subject of strong reservations on the part of this Parliament.
100 mio og 10 mio. Men hvordan anvendes vort budget? 70% af budgettet anvendes til at støtte et mindretal bestående af 10 mio. landmænd — og jeg understreger, at det er et mindretal.
However, the main thing is that it would leave the task of deciding on Community resources to the Council — whose decisions would not be binding and would have to be taken unanimously.
Jeg har megen sympati med disse landmænd under vanskelige forhold.
This is a dangerous approach, since the Council would be under no obligation to act.
Men 70% af vort budget går til spilde, anvendes til store overskud, til absurde fortjenester, ofte til multinationale sammenslutninger og ikke til landmændende.
As matters stand, the Member States are under an obligation to provide the Community with the resources it needs.
Disse spørgsmål påvirker virkelig mennesker.
Article 5 of the Treaty is very clear on this point:
Det kalder jeg heller ikke, at »der intet er sket.
I speak as a new Member of this Parliament but ask for no special favours on those grounds.
Jeg mener, at disse er fundamentale spørgsmål, der viser sig i budgetprocedurerne, og de skal behandles.
I speak as someone who participated in a direct election, the nature of which was rather different from the elections in some of the other countries of the Community.
For det andet er der i Det europæiske Fællesskabs lande for øjeblikket ca. 14 mio. arbejdsløse menne sker.
I make this point as a preamble to reflecting on the budget because in some ways it is a reflection of why we are here.
Men hvor stor en del af deres skatter, deres pen ge, anvendes på vore strukturelle fonds — Den europæiske Socialfonds og Den europæiske Regionalfond?
It helps us to go to the kernel, I think, of what we ought to be discussing today as opposed to what we are discussing today.
Svaret er ca. 15 %.
In Britain, of course, we have constituency representation.
Det er de ting, folk taler om, det er de mennesker vi repræsenterer, det er de spørgsmål, vi i den engelske Labour-gruppe ønsker at rejse her i Par lamentet, og det er de spørgsmål vi mener er relevante for budgettet — ikke spørgsmålet om, hvilken juri
We go back on Friday not to comfortable flats in Paris or Rome or wherever it might be — and as someone who has spent a very good holiday this summer in Florence and Siena, I should very much like to do that — but to shop in the supermarkets on Saturday and on Sunday to talk in the clubs, pubs, cafés and restaurants to the people who actually participated in the direct election to send us here. We are not here because someone decided
Hvis en afgrøde modnes og høstes i november og december måned for eksempel — og dette er trods alt afhængigt af geografisk beliggenhed, vejret og hvornår afgrøden blev sået — så vil dette land fra og med den første november skulle betale sine landmænd på grundlag af nationale midler og nationale skatter og ikke med midler fra Kommissionen; jeg mener, at alle disse ting har været meget vigtige.
It states that: "Member States shall take all appropriate measures, whether general or particular, to ensure fulfilment of their obligations arising out of this Treaty or resulting from action taken by the institutions of the Community."
Ej heller bør man — det er et vigtigt punkt — vælte disse byrder over på de nationale regeringer, for på den måde ville man give filosofien bag Fællesskabet dødsstødet.
We have a view of a Parliament which would cause us to believe that you have to step back somewhat before voting on statements and documentation that are put before you, and first ask yourself why you are here.
Desuden må man sige, at forventningerne er berettigede, når udgifterne er indeholdt i kapitlerne.
We believe that we are here to represent the people who elected us, to raise their concerns, to raise their fears and to talk about the issues which affect them in today's difficult world.
Hundrede millioner arbejdere overlever kun, fordi der er ti millioner landmænd, der arbejder.
Yet how much of their taxes, their money, is spent on our structural funds — the Euro pean Social Fund and the European Regional Fund?
Det er sandsynligt, at det ville lykkes de ti millioner land mænd at overleve også uden de hundrede millioner arbejderes virke.
The answer is something like 15%. So 70% of our expenditure is consumed by a tiny minority of the 10 million people and only 15% goes to the problems of the 100 million people working in industry and the 14 million people who want to work in industry and cannot get jobs.