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Betænkningen om moratoriet berører efter vor mening kun overfladen og lader en hel række spørgsmål stå åbne. Man kan ganske simpelt ikke skære Fællesskabets ti lande over én kam, når det drejer sig om atomenergispørgsmålet.
Mr Davignon, Vice-President of the Commission. — (FR) Mr President, I think that Mr Croux summed things up when he said that Mr van Aerssen's initiative in drawing attention to the need for us to do more on these questions, and improve our methods, was very timely, since the Committee has recently made proposals — referred to in Mr Purvis' report — to which we can give our approval.
Nogle lande har ikke bygget atomreaktorer ·— og måske er det også ganske fornuftigt ikke at bygge nogen, måske har de andre muligheder for at dække deres energi­behov.
What this means in real terms is that within the sixmonth time-limit we shall be carrying out the analysis which has been asked for, so that a clear view can be had of what works and what does not work, what is needed and how the various programmes we already have under way — this is how I interpret Mr Croux's question — fit into the general context.
Andre lande i Fællesskabet kan — i hvert fald efter min mening — helt sikkert ikke give afkald på atomenergi.
Whether they are individual projects forming part of our connection with the developing countries — for such projects already exist in our programmes and in the work of
Dette skulle klart være fremgået.
The resolution calls for three things.
Man ■ skulle have besvaret spørgsmålet, hvordan det ser ud med bortskaffelse af kernekraftaffald, når der ikke bliver bygget flere kernekraftværker, eller hvilken virkning et moratorium kunne få på vor nuklearindu­
It requests the Committee on Energy and Research to hold hearings on breeder reactors and to report on safety, economic matters and relations with non-member countries.
Desuden er der en række forskningsprogrammer, som beskæftiger sig med spørgsmål i forbindelse med de hurtige formeringsreaktorer. Jeg har henvist hertil i mit ændringsforslag.
Now the Committee on Energy and Research considered that since there was an exhaustive two-day hearing by the Council of Europe in Brussels in December 1979, in which the whole subject of fastbreeder reactors was considered, it would be a duplication of effort and a very substantial waste of money to hold yet another hearing on the same subject.
Der er rent faktisk åbne spørgsmål og jeg minder om en rapport der er udar­
Needless to say the minority opinion in my report did not agree.
Dette er henstillinger fra undersøgelseskommissionen under den tyske forbundsdag. Hvorfor skal vore krav være mindre?
Thirdly, the fastbreeder reactor, we should all realize, is the only reactor which makes full use of 100% natural uranium 238.
Dette ændringsforslag er ufuldstændigt, fordi det kun vil føre til fastsættelsen af et beløb, men ikke til udarbejdelsen af noget budget, for det anfører ikke, hvad der skal opføres under de enkelte afsnit, kapitler og konti.
Mr President, not only was the Council of Europe hearing well attended by Members of this House — including incidentally Mrs Bonino who spoke at length — but all shades of opinion were openly expressed at that hearing and it was recorded.
Formanden for budgetudvalget kunne simpelthen ikke sætte dette ændringsforslag under afstemning på grund af dets ufuldstændighed.
It considered all the aspects of fastbreeder reactors which were worried about: safety, environment, etc.
Resumerende kan man sige, at Europa-Parlamentet — det vil sige Fællesskabet over budgettet — egentlig bidrager til formeringsreaktorteknologien, men at vi ikke kan udøve nogen form for kontrol dermed.
Another important point — fast neutron reactors can produce plutonium but they can also incinerate it, so a fastbreeder reactor can be used to get rid of plutonium, if that is what we want it to do.
Parlamentets selvrespekt kræver, at dette spørgsmål i det mindste bliver gennemdrøftet på en høring.
Now, in my opinion, there is very little new to be said about fast breeders which has not already been said at that hearing and in exhaustive studies carried out over 2V2 years in the International Fuel Cycle Evaluation Conference in Vienna which reported last year.
Hvis vi er for en europæisk energipolitik bør vi ikke holde os tilbage, når det drejer sig om spørgsmål, som opstår vedrørende hurtig formeringsreaktorer.
Now INFCE was set up by 50 nations as a means of evaluating non-proliferation techniques in the plutonium fuel cycle, and it came out strongly in favour of fastbreeder reactors as the most efficient and environmentally acceptable means of using plutonium.
Formanden. — Vi afbryder nu vort arbejde og genoptager det i morgen. Talerlisten er lukket.
Now, in view of all this detailed discussion that has been going on in other, places, do Members really think that it is worth holding yet another hearing on the same subject?
Endvidere behandlede vi et ændringsforslag til for slaget til beslutning fra den europæiske demokratiske gruppe, hvori der står, at der bør nedsættes en arbejdsgruppe, som skal foretage de undersøgelser, som jo i henhold til punkt 3 i forslaget til beslutning skal foretages.
Finally, as far as safety is concerned, fastbreeder reactors, unlike pressure water reactors, operate at normal atmospheric pressures.
Udvalget mener, at en ordfører ikke kan erstattes af en arbejdsgruppe, når denne opgave faktisk påhviler ordføreren.
They are not pressure reactors and, unlike what someone said this morning at a news conference, they could never explode like a bomb.
Derfor afviste udvalget ændringsforslaget.
So the whole thing is much less dangerous than some people would have us believe.
FORSÆDE: PIETER DANKERT Næstformand
Now the Geneva appeal demands utter absence of risk.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er afstemning (').
Now, Mr President, the Community makes no contributions from our budget to fastbreeder projects.
Ændringsforslag nr. 173-6 fra gruppen af kommunister og beslægtede blev taget tilbage i går.
One fastbreeder project did receive loans from the European Investment Bank and from Euratom.
Jeg håber, det også vil ske i dag.
But Parliament has no control over those sort of loans.
1-173/81): Forslag til Parlamentets budgetoverslag for 1982.
I move acceptance of our report.
Ordføreren har ordet.
President. — I call the second rapporteur.
Lange, formand for budgetudvalget. — (DE) Hr. formand, budgetudvalget har endnu en gang beskæftiget sig med de forslag, der er blevet fremsat, efter at afgørelserne var blevet truffet i udvalget den 23. april, nemlig i går aftes fra kl. 18.00, eller for at være helt nøjagtig, kl. 18.16 — dette siger jeg af en ganske bestemt grund, de pågældende ved også hvorfor.
The third point made by Capanna is that governments concerned should suspend all work connected with breeder reactor projects and set in hand public and parliamentary inquiries to determine whether the Geneva appeal is well founded.
Vi anbefaler derfor, at gruppen tager disse tre ændringsforslag tilbage og søger en løsning inden for rammerne af den reserve, Parlamentet råder over i sin . stillingsfortegnelse.
The Committee on Energy and Research, subject again to the minority opinion, considers that the Community has no legal competence to encroach on what is an internal national matter.
Derved undgås nemlig en forøgelse af stillingerne.
The Community could only suspend work on Community projects.
Jeg mener absolut, det må være muligt, at man enes om dette inden for rammerne af præsidiet.
The draft resolution before the House today therefore rejects the Capanna resolution on the Geneva appeal and the suspension of work on fastbreeder reactor projects.
Vi havde altså fået forelagt 58 forslag.
Do I see them in this Chamber?
Det er i grunden også resultatet af afstemningerne.
But I will bother to answer them, although I wonder whether they are worthy of it, because I suggest that their power, they think, lies more in press conferences than in debating matters with the other Members in this House.
Alle andre ændringsforslag, blandt andet ændrings forslagene fra vore kolleger de la Malene, Pannella og Fich — jeg vil ikke gå ind på dem enkeltvis — blev derefter afvist af budgetudvalget ved en afstemning under ét i overensstemmelse med den grundliggende holdning udvalget har anbefalet Parlamentet at antage, nemlig at acceptere kompromis'et og erklære sig indforstået med kontrollen af samtlige nødvendige spørgsmål indtil første behandling.
It is not my wish — because time is getting on — to go into a profound technical debate on the merits and demerits of the fastbreeder reactor; but I would like just to make one or two important points.
I princippet har budgetudvalget altså afvist samtlige ændringsforslag — bortset fra den særlige behandling, vi anbefalede at give ændringsforslagene fra grupperne.
If we now suspended work on fastbreeder reactors this would allow the Russians and the Americans to establish a technical lead which at present is firmly in the hands of Community nations.
C) Forhandlingsreferatet indeholder kun den del af afstemningen, som har givet anledning ni fremsættelse af indlæg.
Let us look at the rationale of the opponents of nuclear power against observable facts.
Hvis man ønsker en detaljeret beskrivelse af afstemningen, bedes man se i protokollen.
They say that there are strong and growing grounds to justify the non-use of nuclear power.
Det var altså det, der skulle siges om den sag således at vore kolleger ved, hvilken afgørelse budgetudvalget anbefaler dem at træffe.Vi anmoder Dem om at følge
Now, the original nuclear technology in the Community, primitive by today's standards, is British and nearly 30 years old.
Konto 2231 — Efter forkastelsen af ændringsforslag nr. 23
There has never been loss of life or diseases attributable to nuclear power in Britain, in Europe or in the USA.
Bonde. — Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne have den sidste afstemning én gang til.
Perhaps Mr Capanna can tell us about Russian experience!
De bliver nødt til at tage en anelse hensyn til, at tolkningen går igennem på et noget senere tidspunkt, efter at De har lagt op til afstemning.
Today our nuclear industry is building new reactors designed and developed on the basis of experience gained with the first generation.
Herman. — (FR) Hr. formand, eftersom der indtil nu ikke har meldt sig nogen for at forsvare så meget som ét af hr. Pannellas ændringsforslag, kan De så ikke for at spare Parlamentets tid anse disse ændrings forslag, som hverken forsvares eller støttes, for at være taget tilbage?
Even allowing for higher capital costs and reprocessing charges, nuclear generators produce electricity considerably more cheaply than oil and coal-fired plant.
Formanden. — Hr. Bonde, resultatet af afstemningen var fuldkommen klart.
A comparison of production costs in America, France and Britain proves this statement.
Jeg vil derfor ikke gentage afstemningen.
Further, in those Member States which have nuclear power stations, they are built and operated to standards of safety superior to any required in other industries.
Ændringsforslag af de la Malene
growth is unlikely to create additional jobs.
Der er blevet stemt for nogle af hr. Pannellas ændringsforslag, og af og til har nogen afholdt sig fra at stemme.
The Community seeks stability in that region, but the Soviet Union might have another view and the oil-indebtedness of Member States is already clipping their political wings.
Men under alle omstændigheder kan jeg ikke i henhold til forretningsordenen følge den frem gangsmåde, De foreslår.
And it is noteworthy that the Soviet Union's handling or raw material supplies to its client States requires their political obedience.
Ansquer. — (FR) Hr. formand, hr. de la Malene fremsatte under plenarforsamlingen en kort erklæring for at redegøre for vor gruppes holdning, hvad angår den procedure, der er blevet fulgt efter drøftelsen af forslaget til Europa-Parlamentets budgetoverslag.
The nuclear industry is less pollutant than the major industries in which millions of our fellow citizens obtain their livelihood without complaint.
I fortsættelse af denne erklæring på det offentlige møde fremsatte hr. de la Malene en række ændringsforslag for at understrege vor opposition imod den anvendte procedure siden påbegyndelsen af drøftelserne om budgetoverslaget.
To our fellow citizens who might be attracted to support parliamentary candidates of Green Parties I say this: the allegations that Mr Coppieters and others like him make about nuclear power are false and, more, they are dishonest.
Kirk. — Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne høre, om De også kan konkludere, at det, der er stemt om indtil nu, er det samme beløb, som står i forslaget til afgørelse, nemlig de 209 millioner regningsenheder?
To the people of Ireland, Denmark, Holland, Italy, Greece and Luxembourg, this Parliament should send the message that they can and should invest in nuclear power with confidence.
Formanden. — Hr. Kirk, jeg tror, der må være opstået env lille misforståelse.
I would like to quote because I feel that not only is a moratorium on nuclear power a course for political and economic catastrophe, but is a very important factor in the ideological conflict with the Soviet Union, I would like to quote the Nobel Prize winning physicist, André Sakharov.
Vi har et forslag til et budgetoverslag på lidt over 209 mio liggende foran
He has written that there exists a political interest on the part of the USSR in exploiting shortages in the West.
Jeg ønsker, at Europa-Parlamentet skal være klar over vor holdning.
This assumption is doubly valid in the case of two world systems opposing each other.
Vi kan ikke til stadighed være i konflikt med Parlamentets præsidium.
But the level of a country's economy is determined by its energy technology.
Tværtimod er det mit ønske — og jeg tror også, at det er formanden, hr. Langes ønske — at der mellem bud getudvalget og Europa-Parlamentets præsidium foregår en permanent høring.
Therefore he said, I assert that the development of nuclear technology is one of the necessary conditions for the preservation of the economic and political independence of every country, which means both those that have already reached a high development stage and those that are just developing.
Det er det, vi anmoder Parlamentet om at iværksætte og organisere.
For the countries of Western Europe and Japan, the importance of nuclear technology is particularly great.
Det er en forskel på 10 millioner, og dette beløb afviger altså fra det, vi netop har besluttet.
This will result in humiliating, political dependence.
Og derfor må dette ændringsforslag bort falde, fordi der allerede er truffet en anden beslutning. ning.
In politics, one concession always leads to another and where it will finally lead is hard to foresee.
Nu, hvor dette er sagt, tager jeg med hr. de la Malenes tilladelse samtlige de af ham stillede ændringsforslag tilbage.
Mr President, opponents of nuclear power frighten us with claims of cancer and leukaemia resulting from the radiation emitted spasmodically or accidentally by nuclear generators.
(Bifald fra forskellige pladser) (...)
But these diseases much more usually have other causes.
Formanden. — Der er nu mulighed for at afgive stemmeforklaringer.
Since the beginning of time our ancestors have been exposed to the natural radiation of the universe.
Ændringsforslag fra Gouthier m.fl.
We, and our fellow citizens, are all a product of genetic effects which natural radiation has caused, a radiation which is measurable.
Forth. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne gøre den europæiske demokratiske gruppes holdning til afstemningen om det endelige dokument ganske klar.
Looking at ourselves, the genetic effects of radiation are obviously less serious than its capacity to cause cancer.
Hr. formand, vore ændringsforslag er taget tilbage dog på den betingelse, at de vil blive fremsat påny inden efteråret, når vi skal drøfte det samme anliggende igen.
The average level of radiation to the French and British public resulting from their nuclear power programmes is about 1/700 of the natural background radiation to which man has been subject since creation.
Efter forkastelsen af ændringsforslag
It is accepted by professional medical opinion that the majority of cancers result from the environment in which we live; what we eat, breathe and even think.
Derfor ser vi os ikke i stand til at støtte det tal, der er fastsat i denne beslutning, nemlig 209 mio regningsenheder.
I want to speak now of nuclear power in the total political and energy context.
Formanden. — Vi går nu over til betænkningen af Dankert (dok.
Nuclear power, I suggest, is the technological gift-horse of the age.
1-188/81): Fremføring af bevillinger fra regnskabsåret 1980 til regnskabsåret 1981.
Let us not unthinkingly look it in the mouth and turn it away.
Formanden. — Vi går nu over til betænkningen af Delorozoy (dok.
Other countries, however, simply cannot do without nuclear energy — at least not in my opinion.
1-157/81): Industrielt samarbejde mellem medlemsstaterne.
That point should have been made crystalclear.
på linje med det, formanden for budgetudvalget har sagt, og vi er fuldkommen enige med ham og udvalget i, at man skal benytte sig af enhver lejlighed, efterhånden som budgetproceduren skrider frem resten af året, til at tage Parlamentets budget op til fornyet behandling for at se, hvorvidt vi fortsat kan holde fast ved de foreslåede tal, nedsætte det eller ændre det på nogen måde.
The question we should have asked is what will happen in the question of the disposal of nuclear waste if no further nuclear power stations are built, or what effect will a moratorium have on our nuclear industry — in other words, would it not re-gear itself to exports, with the effect that we should simply have dodged the issue?
Delorozoy, ordfører. — (FR) Jeg tilslutter mig for slaget, hr. formand, eftersom det ændringsforslag tilføjer nærmere præcisioner til et reelt forhold.
I should also like to add that most of the social-democratic and socialist parties in the Community have come out against a moratorium; and have discussed the real issues in much greater detail than has been the case here.
Delorozoy, ordfører. — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg kan ikke gå ind for dette ændringsforslag, fordi det understreger, de nuværende mekanismers utilstrækkelighed, mens man tværtimod i hele betænkningen insisterer på tilstedeværelsen af institutionelle kompe tencer.
Mr Davignon, Vice-President of the Commission. — (FR) Mr President, it will not be my privilege to be here during the resumed debate tomorrow — I have to be present at the ECSC Consultative Committee which will be dealing with other matters — and so I should like to outline the Commission's view on this question very briefly now.
Delorozoy, ordfører. — (FR) Det, dette forslag går ud på, er en vurdering af ordet »tilstrækkelig«.
Moving on to the question of fastbreeder reactors, the point at issue here is not to come down for or against.
Når alt kommer til alt, kan jeg ikke se noget til hinder for at fjerne det. Så jeg går ind for forslaget.
What we have to decide here is whether or not we want to clear up the outstanding issues in a hearing.
Colla. — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg vil stemme for dette forslag til budget, men det er dog en betinget jastemme.
The Commission did express its view on these ques tions — nuclear waste and fastbreeder reactors — when it set out what it considered to be the way forward in a document dated 18 February 1980.
En ja-stemme, fordi der faktisk er sket frem gang med hensyn til proceduren, en ja-stemme, fordi der er gjort en indsats, men måske først og fremmest en ja-stemme, fordi det endnu ikke er noget endeligt budget, men kun et forslag til et overslag.
It is on the basis of those views that the Commission will be continuing discussion with the Council, aimed at achieving — with all the necessary care — the guarantees which are needed, and the economic constraints we all face — following up the programmes which are considered essential to Europe's independence in energy, together with a European strategy on energy.
Min jastemme er betinget, fordi forslaget til overslag efter min mening, sådan som det for øjeblikket ser ud, endnu er fuldkommen uklart og uoverskueligt.
I should like briefly to explain why my Group is in favour of a hearing along these lines.
Og betinget, fordi det stadig forventes, at specielt Parlamentets præsidium for fremtiden skal udvise større beredvillighed til også at forsyne budgetudvalget med nærmere og mere præcise oplysninger om bag grunden for en række udgifter og konti.
The fact is that energy consumption in the Community is a lot lower than predicted by the Commission and the Member States.
Altså en betinget ja-stemme, fordi det ikke blot formelt, men heller ikke i praksis kan betragtes som nogen endestation, hvad angår vort arbejde i forbindelse med budgettet for 1982.
That is precisely what the Federal German Government is doing, and in the third phase of the energy programme, the figures will be still lower than in the second programme.
Punkt 6 —Ændringsforslag nr. 7
President. — I call the Socialist Group.
Delorozoy, ordfører. — (FR) Jeg kan ikke gå ind for dette ændringsforslag, fordi det bunder i formodningen om en fremtidig institutionel reform, som overhovedet ikke er blevet behandlet af vort udvalg.
It is possible — indeed, it occasionally happens when groups of visitors come to the European Parliament — to confuse the Council of Europe with the European Parliament. The Council of Europe has indeed already held a hearing on this question, but no Member of Parliament should confuse the two.
Scrivener. — (FR) Hr. formand, vi vil stemme for denne beslutning, fordi vi mener, den er resultatet af et fornuftigt samspil — ganske vist vanskeligt, men dog yderst vigtigt — mellem budgetudvalget og præsidiet.
Mr Linkohr. — (DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, my Group did not comment on the fore going reports by Messrs Beazley, Fuchs, Adam and Purvis — not because we do not have a high opinion of them, but because we shall be voting for them.
Da vi lægger meget stor vægt på det samspil, fordi vi mener, det er det eneste middel til at kunne arbejde på rimelig måde, vil den liberale og demokratiske gruppe stemme for denne beslutning.
I should like instead to concentrate on the dual ques tions of a moratorium on nuclear energy and fastbreeder reactors.
Delorozoy, ordfører. — (FR) Det går jeg ind for.
Nor can we ignore the fact that there is growing opposition to the commercial use of fastbreeder reactors.
Dette ændringsforslag er en præcisering og fuldstændiggørelse af teksten.
The present French Government wants to put the fast breeder into commercial operation, but the other Member States' governments have come out against such a move.
Det er, fordi man ikke havde mulighed for at stemme om ændringsforslag nr. 4, som var indgivet af vore konservative kolleger.
To begin with, I should like to say to Mr Vanneck that nuclear energy cannot be used as an ideological weapon in our confrontation with the Soviet Union.
Ikke at jeg dermed mener, at De har gjort noget forkert, hr. formand, for De har fulgt de regler, hvorunder en afstemning foregår, men fordi jeg mener, at det havde været korrekt, at vi havde nulstillet i forhold til 1981.
Our source of strength is our credible system of social order and democratic government, which makes it incumbent on us to debate all these matters in this house and not dodge the issue.
Jeg er derfor imod.
In my opinion, a hearing would help us to find the answers.
Delorozoy, ordfører. — (FR) Jeg er imod dette ændringsforslag, for det rummer en forpligtelse, som a priori pålægges Kommissionen uden først at afvente hvilke forslag, den vil fremsætte.
Mr Lange, Chairman of the Committee on Budgets. — (DE) Mr President, following the decisions we took on 23 April, the Committee on Budgets last night once again discussed the amendments tabled, starting at 6 p.m. — or, to be more precise, 6.16 p.m. — and I say that for a very specific reason which those concerned will appreciate.
Efter punkt 21 —Ændringsforslag nr. 14
granted by Euratom and the European Investment Bank.
Efter punkt 11 —Ændringsforslag nr. 3 og 4
We were faced with 58 amendments.