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I Chile har der i elleve år hersket militærdiktatur, i Nicaragua begyndte folkets befrielse for fem år siden.
Mr Allende, let us not forget, was deposed by two thirds of the Chilean members of parliament.
Antony (DR). — (FR) Fru formand, kære kolleger, vor gruppe kan fuldt ud tilslutte sig den uro, vi føler over det, som for øjeblikket foregår i Chile.
President. — I have spoken to a number of colleagues, who are not at present opposed to my proposal.
(Bifald fra forskellige pladser)
(Protests from various quarters)
Endelig bemærker jeg i modsætning til det, som det europæiske folkepartis gruppe siger i sin beslutning, at Coordinadora Democratica i Nicaragua ikke har forbud mod at deltage i valgene, men at det' selv har nægtet at deltage i valgene. Regnbuegruppen har forelagt præsidiet en anmodning om, at der sendes en udvidet delegation til valgene i Nicaracua den 4. november i år.
Mr Donnez (L). — (FR) I would like to be a good boy, but I do not want to see the word 'good' changing its meaning.
Man bør huske på, at Allende blev desavoueret af to tredjedele af det chilenske deputeretkammer, og man bør også huske, at når generel Pinochets statskup kunne finde sted for elleve år siden, så var det trods alt på grund af de vedvarende og blodige angreb fra det yderste venstre.
Lastly, since we are talking about the priest who was so odiously slain, I should like to say that I have just this minute heard the news of the assassination of Gesa Palfi, another priest, a Romanian one, who was tortured by police in Romania.
(Protest fra forskellige pladser)
President. — I take your point only too well.
Lenz (PPE). — (DE) Fru formand, jeg er rede til at give afkald på min taletid under forudsætning af, at der ikke er flere, der får ordet til dette emne, og at vi straks går over til afstemningen.
We shall begin therefore with the presentation of the various motions for resolutions.
På samme måde kan vi i dagens avis læse, at et pas sagertog er blevet angrebet om natten af demonstranter, som kastede brandbomber.
When you express distaste about what is happening in Santiago, I should like to say that I should sometimes like to hear you apply the term to the Soviet Union, which, in its unsurpassed form of modern slavery, has killed 150 million people.
Dette forekommer mig ikke at være en normal måde at demonstrere på.
I should like you to think about the people dying in Cabinda and Angola today.
Det er meget beklageligt, at der kastes brandbomber mod passagertog, selv i Chile.
And when that happens, human rights go down the drain.
Formanden. — Fru Lenz, jeg henvendte mig til de indskrevne talere for nogle minutter siden, og der var nogle, som ikke ønskede at give afkald på deres tale tid.
President. — I am sorry, Mr Antony, I must withdraw the floor from you. You have already gone quite a bit beyond your alloted speaking time.
1983 er ydet Nicaragua på 70 millioner ECU, og til at afholde sig fra enhver yderligere form for hjælp, så længe der ikke i denne stat er konstateret respekt for menneskerettighederne.
Mr Trivelli (COM). — (IT) Madam President, I wish to forego my right to speak and I would appeal to the other Members that are down to speak to do likewise, so that we can get the vote on this motion for a resolution over in good time.
Formanden. — Ja, fru Lenz, men vi har en forhand ling under ét om alle disse beslutningsforslag.
We are all aware of the importance of free elections.
Jeg kan derfor ikke efterkomme Deres anmodning.
Our motion for a resolution wishes to give expression to this.
Lenz (PPE). '— (DE) Fru formand, vi ved alle, hvor svært det er for dem, som i deres lande kæmper for indførelse af demokrati og frie valg.
Mr Verbeek (ARC). — (NL) Madam President, Europe has had a dreadful history of exploiting Latin America since the time of Columbus.
Vi ønsker med dette beslutningsforslag at gøre opmærksom på en truende proces i en spændingsfyldt del af verden.
A particular victim of this exploitation has been Chile, where Euro pean and US companies and banks have interests.
Jeg vil også gerne anmode om afstemning ved navn om et af beslutningsforslagene, nemlig det om Nicaragua.
That is why Pinochet's military junta was helped to seize power.
Sakharov på begyndte sin sultestrejke for fire måneder siden.
In Chile a military dictatorship has been in power for eleven years, while in Nicaragua the liberation of the people began four years ago.
Vi har vedtaget flere beslutninger i de senere år, og de sovjetiske myndigheder har ikke reageret herpå.
To say these two countries are identical is like saying the Nazis and the resistance movement in the last war were identical.
Fru formand, De vil sikkert kunne huske, at vi har anmodet om, at en plads må stå tom i Parlamentet til Sakharov, men at vi ikke har opnået det. Vi har også anmodet om, at en gruppe medlemmer må få tilladelse til at rejse til Sovjetunionen for at skaffe oplysninger om Sakharovs og hans kones sundhedstilstand. Dette har vi heller ikke kunnet opnå.
To conclude, I would point out that, contrary to what the Group of the European People's Party says in its resolution, the Coordinadora Democratica in Nicaragua is not banned from taking part in the elections.
Tripodi VDR). — (IT) Fru formand, de europæiske højrepartier, som er overbevist om, at friheden er et udeleligt gode. fremsætter to forslag til beslutning: det ene om Nicaragua, det andet om Chile.
Mrs Lenz (PPE). — (DE) Madam President, provided that no one else wishes to speak on the subject of this motion for a resolution so that we can vote immediately, I am prepared to forego my speaking time.
Vi har ikke fået noget svar, og jeg vil slutte med at anmode Parlamentet om at vedtage de fremsatte beslutningsforslag, som ikke lader nogen tvivl om, at det er nødvendigt at få et svar fra de sovjetiske myndigheder. der.
President. — I asked various authors by name a few moments ago, Mrs Lenz, and some of them did not want to forego their speaking time.
I begge understreger vi frihedens værdi, samtidig med at vi anerkender alle landes ret til at udøve deres politiske aktivitet uden indblanding, trusler eller ind greb fra andre lande — sådan som sovjetkommunismen gentagne gange har givet os eksempler på — og i begge lande kræver vi, på trods af, at de har politisk diametralt modsatte regeringer, frigivelse af politiske fanger, retfærdig offentlig rettergang og frie valg.
As regards more specifically Nicaragua, we cannot refrain from stressing that suppression of freedom of information, a convenient electoral law and the sup pression of every manifestation of opposition to the ruling powers have nullified those principles of pluralism and democracy which five years ago the Sandinista junta promised after the overthrow of Somoza. As usual, when communism needs to gain power, it promises the protection of human rights: once power is gained, those rights are mercilessly crushed under a dictatorship.
Chouraqui (RDE). — (FR) Fru formand, jeg har fået pålagt at forelægge et beslutningsforslag af de la Malene om jøderne i Sovjetunionen.
Mrs Lenz (PPE). — (DE) I am sorry, Madam President, but it was not clear whether or not they are all now prepared to forego their right to speak on the various topics.
Jeg har to minutter til rådighed, men jeg tror det ville være bedre at iagttage to minutters stilhed for at erindre om, hvor kompliceret og vanskeligt dette spørgsmål er.
I am perfectly willing to stand down if no one else wishes to speak on these motions for resolutions. lutions.
Men siden Europa-Parlamentet er blevet valgt ved almindelige direkte valg, har det haft et ønske om at spille en ikke ubetydelig rolle i forbindelse med menneske rettighederne og den menneskelige samvittighed.
The European Right therefore calls on the Commission to suspend the aids which have been granted to Nicaragua between 1979 and 1983 to the amount of 70 million ECU and to withhold all further aid at least until such time as civic rights are seen to be respected and put into effect in that country.
De europæiske højrepartier opfordrer derfor Kom missionen til at indstille den bistand, der fra 1979 til
Mr de Camaret (DR). — (FR) Madam President, I should first like to ask you to be kind enough to go slowly on the vote on these three motions for resolutions on Nicaragua, Chile and the Soviet Union.
Vi så det også i går i forbindelse med elleveårsdagen for Allendes død og situationen i Chile, som er smertelig.
Mrs Lenz (PPE). — (DE) Madam President, we are all aware of the difficulties facing those who are fight ing for the introduction of a free democracy and free elections in their countries.
Jeg så min tyske kollega fra den grønne-alternative sammenslutning give udtryk for sin mening om Chile ved at besmykke sin pult med hvide blomster, og jeg tror stadig blomsterne var der i formiddag.
The purpose of this motion for a resolution is to draw attention to a menacing development in one of the world's troubled regions and to enable our friends to participate in free elec
Chouraqui ber, at denne appel vil blive fulgt af flertallet af med lemmerne.
Mr Molinari (ARC). — (IT) Madam President, I do not want this resolution to be a matter of adherence to Right or left, as happens in this House.
Wurtz (COM). — (FR) Jeg vil gerne komme ind på Sydafrika. Racisterne i Pretoria har iværksat en valg parodi, hvormed de håber at kunne vinde dem for sig, som de gennem årene har frataget værdigheden.
The Naria case, if it proves anything, demonstrates how special legislation can lead to juridical monstrosities that are distortions of law, a mockery of the rule of law.
Resultatet kan ikke overraske.
interest in what may only be minor issues.
Hvis man skulle gøre det samme for jøderne og systemkritikerne i Sovjetunionen, måtte man bringe favne af blomster ind i mødesalen.
We have adopted various resolutions in recent years, but the Soviet auth orities have never responded.
Det er en appel til dette land om, at det igen finder ind på frihedens veje.
Madam President, you remember us asking for a seat in this House to be kept free for Sakharov.
(Bifald fra højre)
We did not get that either.
Den diskriminerende inddragelse af blandede racer og indere i udøvelsen af det racistiske styre i Sydafrika er af udlandet blevet forkastet på samme måde, som man gjorde det, dengang de forskellige Bantustans i de senere år opnåede deres såkaldte uafhængighed. gighed.
When a man is held in prison for eight long years although he is innocent — and mind that it is not I who say he is innocent but two court verdicts — and then, as is happening at this moment, this man is very nearly sentenced to death — what we are dealing with is the overturning of the very foundations on which States that call themselves democratic have based their constitutions.
Molinari (ARC). — (IT) Fru formand, med dette beslutningsforslag beder jeg ikke om, at man vælger side mellem højre og venstre, selv om disse findes her i Parlamentet.
The third point concerns the five Georgians who were sentenced to death in the Soviet Union on 13 August. We have here a number of letters from the Georgian authorities, asking Mr Chernenko to commute the death penalty.
Tilfældet Naria er en sag, som, om ikke andet, viser, at en særlovgivning kan ende med at blive en juridisk uhyrlighed, som fordrejer enhver tiltro til retssystemet og til retsstaten.
But such is the perversity of the special legislation that new crimes have been attributed to Naria and he was tried once again, and again found not guilty, but he has been put in prison again.
Kære kolleger, efter de blodige begivenheder, som endnu engang har fundet sted i Sydafrika, er det foreliggende beslutningsforslag et udtryk for solidaritet med de sorte sydafrikanere, som kæmper mod den herskende hvide klasse, der fortsat går fuldt og helt ind for apartheid.
This is because his one and only crime is that he is supposed to have taken part in troubles in the prison in which he was awaiting trial for the crimes of which he was found not guilty.
Giuliano Naria blev faktisk fængslet for otte år siden for en forbrydelse i forbindelse med terrorisme, men i løbet af de otte år er han blevet frikendt for sin for brydelse.
I hope that this appeal will find the support of the majority of Members.
Formanden. — Kære kolleger, klokken er nu 13.00.
Mr Wurtz (COM). — (FR) I shall be talking about South Africa.
Jeg stillede Dem et forslag ved begyndelsen af for handlingen under ét.
By having a parody of an election, the racialists in Pretoria expected to get the forgiveness of those whose human dignity they had stamped under foot for years.
Da der både er ændringsforslag og talere, som endnu ikke har fået ordet, vil vi ikke kunne afslutte forhandlingen på mindre end femogtredive til fyrre minutter.
The poor turnout in the elections for the house of representatives alone says a lot.
Selv om vi anmodede talerne om at give afkald på deres taletid, ville det tage mindst et kvarter at foretage afstemningen.
To begin with, before the ballot, the international community made known in a resolution of the UN Security Council that only the USA and the UK had not voted and that it considered these elections and the new constitution as null and void.
I dag er Giuliona Naria i en meget dårlig helbredstilstand.
We saw as much again yesterday in relation to the anniversary of the death of Allende and the situation in Chile, which is certainly very painful.
Han lider af anoreksi, er ude af stand til at indtage føde. De læger, der har besøgt ham, frygter for hans liv.
Well, Madam President, if we did the same for the Jews and the dissidents in the USSR, we would need whole armfuls of flowers in this House.
Fra mange forskellige sider i det politiske spektrum har der rejst sig røster for at sætte ham midlertidigt på fri fod, eller for at han i det mindste får husarrest.
So, on behalf of my group, we call on the European Parliament to invite the Soviet Union to fulfil its obligations under the final act of Helsinki — free movement of individuals, freedom of the press, freedom of telephonic communication and secrecy of correspond ence.
Endog den italienske justitsminister har udtalt sig i denne retning.
The European Parliament must call on the Soviet government to stop persecuting an discriminating against Jewish and other religious minorities.
(') Udvalgenes sammensætning: se protokollen.
(Applause from the right)
Formanden. — Jeg foreslår, at fristen for at stille ændringsforslag eller forslag til ændring til forslaget til Fællesskabernes almindelige budget for regnskabsåret 1985 er som følger:
— for compromise amendments only: at 12 noon on Tuesday, 23 October 1984;
— for de individuelle medlemmer og udvalgene: torsdag den 27. september 1984, kl. 12.00;
— for amendments to the draft budget of Parliament: at 12 noon on Thursday, 11 October 1984.
— for de politiske grupper: torsdag den 4. oktober 1984, kl. 12.00;
These deadlines could be extended if the Council does not forward the draft budget on time.
— udelukkende for kompromisændringsforslag: tirsdag den 23. oktober 1984, kl. 12.00;
It is particularly important for the Community to reiterate its past positions on southern African, particu larly in the ACP-EEC Consultative Assembly, in that we are on the point of meeting with our African part ners to renew the Lomé Convention.
Formanden. — Nej, det kan vi ikke gøre, for alt efter datoen for en eventuelt forsinket fremsendelse bliver vi måske nødsaget til at fastsætte lidt snævrere frister.
By voting for this resolution, this House will reaffirm the principle that peace and the abolition of apartheid are the only things that will contribute to a change worthy of the name in South Africa.
Præsidiet mødes den 27. september; Rådet mødes den 17. og 18. september.
With regard to the deadline you propose for the tabling of amendments and the date of 27 September for the draft general budget, can we know exactly when that latter document will be distributed?
Det udvidede præsidium ved altså den 27. september, hvorledes landet ligger.
Will we stick to 27 September or will we move it back in the event that the Council causes a delay?
Hvorom alting er, så er Deres ønske om en eventuel forlængelse af fristerne fuldt ud normalt, og der vil blive taget hensyn hertil.
Would it not be better to fix the deadline for tabling amend ments at a certain number of days after the budget has been distributed?
— for ændringsforslag til Parlamentets budgetforslag: torsdag den 11. oktober 1984, kl. 12.00.
Otherwise, as has already occurred, the deadline for tabling amendments could well have passed before we get the text to look at!
Hume (S). — (EN) Til forretningsordenen, hr. for mand.
President. — Ladies and gentlemen, it is 1 p.m.
Parlamentet drøftede her i formiddag en lang række spørgsmål, som det mente var af yderst uopsættelig karakter.
I made a certain proposal to the House at the beginning of our joint debate.
De var faktisk så uopsættelige, at Parlamentet ikke kunne afgive en stemme eller en udtalelse om et eneste af dem.
In view of the amendments tabled and the number of Members still down to speak, it is clear that we will be going on for a further 35 to 40 minutes.
Man nåede ikke en gang frem til det spørgsmål, som især interesserer mig, brugen af plastickugler i Nordirland.
However, the Rules of Procedure are quite explicit on this point: a maximum of three hours for a debate of this kind.
Kun ne De fortælle mig, hvornår jeg vil kunne rejse det spørgsmål, som jeg er interesseret i?
President. — Mr Pannella, I can only confirm what I have said just now.
Fastholder vi datoen den 27. september, eller udskyder vi den i tilfælde af forsinkelse fra Rådets side?
The deadlines I have indicated could be put back if the Council should be late in for warding the draft budget.
Formanden. — Hr. Pannella, jeg bekræfter det, jeg lige har sagt : de frister, som jeg har nævnt, vil kunne udsættes i tilfælde af forsinket fremsendelse fra Rådets side af budgetforslaget.
Even if we were to ask the various Members concerned to forego the speaking time allocated to them, we would still have to spend at least 15 minutes voting.
Pannella (NI). — (FR) Undskyld, hr. formand, men hvad betyder i dette tilfælde »forsinket fremsendelse«? se«?
Mr Pannella (NI). — (FR) Excuse me, Mr President, but what does 'late in forwarding' mean in this case?
(Tilråb fra visse pladser: Sludder!)
(The sitting was suspended at 1 p.m. and resumed at 3 p.m.)1
Formanden. — Det betyder, at hvis Rådet fremsender budgetforslaget på et sådant tidspunkt, at disse frister ikke vil kunne overholdes, vil fristerne på dette tids punkt blive udsat under hensyntagen til fremsendelsesdatoen.
President. — It means that if the draft budget were forwarded by the Council at a time such that these deadlines could no longer be observed, the deadlines would then be extended in the light of the date and indeed the hour at which the document was for warded.
Men jeg kan hverken sige noget om risikoen for en forsinkelse eller om forsinkelsens karakter i så fald!
However, I can neither predict whether we are likely to have a delay nor, if we should have one, how long it is likely to be!
Vi kan altså ikke for indeværende fast sætte andre frister.
Consequently we cannot fix other deadlines at this precise moment.
Pannella (NI). — (FR) De må undskylde, hr. for mand, at jeg bliver ved.
President
Men hvem skal til sin tid fastsætte fristerne, hvis vi for eksempel modtager basisdokumentet den 27. september, hvor vi jo ikke er
Mr Pannella (NI). — (FR) I am sorry for insisting, Mr President, but who will decide on the deadlines if, say, we get the basic document on 27 September when we are not sitting?
Formanden. — Hr. Taylor, det vil naturligvis blive nævnt i protokollen, men for at svare hr. Hume, er der som allerede nævnt afsat tre timer til uopsættelige forslag.
President. — I propose to the House that the deadlines for tabling draft amendments and proposed modifications to the draft general budget of the Communities for 1985 be fixed as follows:
Dagsordenen er fastsat således, og vi kan des værre ikke ændre den.
— for individual Members and parliamentary committees: at 12 noon on Thursday, 27 September 1984;
På et møde
We are in the dark, you see.
Formanden følge af manglende fleksibilitet ved forhandling og afstemning om disse forslag.
President and that there could be no question of having an extension.
Alligevel blev der et meget stort antal tilbage, og det har vist sig umuligt at behandle alle disse spørgsmål inden for den tid, der var til rådighed.
The enlarged Bureau will know therefore by 27 September how matters stand.
Dette bestemt vigtige spørgsmål, som hr. Hume har rejst, vil blive undersøgt, men det er des værre ikke muligt under indeværende mødeperiode.
Be that as it may, your wish to see the deadlines possibly extended is quite reasonable and it will be taken into account.
(Bifald)
Mr Hume (S). — On a point of order, Mr President.
Sir James Scott-Hopkins (ED). - (EN) Da vi ind førte disse uopsættelige debatter, var det meningen — og det fastlagdes i bestemmelserne — at gruppeformændene sammen med Den, der skulle lede mødet, skulle træffe afgørelse om, hvilke og hvor mange for slag der skulle behandles, således at det passede med de tre timer.
Sir James Scott-Hopkins (ED). — When these rules on urgent procedure were first introduced, it was intended, and laid down accordingly, that a meeting of the political group chairmen presided over by you, Mr President, should decide on the priorities and list sufficient urgency motions to fill the three hours.
Dette var helt tydeligt ikke tilfældet den ne gang.
This was quite obviously not done this time.
Det fremgår klart, at det er lykkedes for Dem at få alt for mange uopsættelige forslag med på listen.
Obviously between you all you managed to get far too many urgencies on the list.
Jeg ved, at det er en vanskelig opgave, hr. for mand, for formændene og Dem, men De må virkelig bestræbe Dem på næste gang at begrænse det til to eller tre eller maksimalt fire uopsættelige sager.
I know it is a difficult task, Mr President, for the chairmen and yourself, but you really must make an effort next time to reduce them to either two or three, or at the maximum four, for the urgency debate.
Så har vi en chance for rent faktisk at drøfte dem rigtigt og nå frem til konklusioner.
Then we have a chance of actually debating them properly and coming to conclusions.
Dette var det oprindelige formål, og jeg anmoder Dem indtrængende om at gå tilbage til det.
That was the original purpose and I do beg you to go back to it.
Formanden. — Sir James, De har ganske ret.
President. — Sir James, you are perfectly right.
Jeg til lader mig imidlertid at bemærke, at hvis der er så mange anmodninger om uopsættelig forhandling, er det, fordi Parlamentets medlemmer, der i øvrigt gør brug af en ret, de har, har fremsat dem.
How ever, I would point out that if there is a very large number of requests for urgent procedure, it is because they have been tabled by Members of this House, using a right that it unquestionably theirs.
Derfor kan situaitonen kun forbedres, hvis medlemmerne i høje re grad udviser disciplin.
Thus, there can be no improvement in the situation unless members impose a certain discipline on themselves.
Formanden. — Jeg forelægger gerne ethvert konkret forslag til ændring af vore metoder for præsidiet.
Mr Taylor (ED). — Mr President, the point raised by the honourable Member for Northern Ireland, Mr Hume, is relevant.
Det er rigtigt, at der i det gamle Parlament ofte var nattemøder.
In fact, Madam Pèry, who was in the Chair, did envisage Members debating, and then voting on the matter of plastic bullets in Northern Ireland.
Men hvad angår denne mødeperiode, så har Parlamentet fastsat dagsordenen, og jeg har ikke be myndigelse til og mulighed for at ændre den, ved at vi nu bl.a. føjer en dagsorden til vor allerede god kendte dagsorden, som i øvrigt slutter her i eftermiddag. dag.
It was a Member from the southern part of Ireland, Mr Andrews, who, by objecting to her ruling, required everyone to speak and therefore made it impossible to have the vote.
Pannella (NI). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg henviser til forretningsordenen, navnlig artikel 48, stk. 3 og 4.
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