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Gendarmerne skal, enten det er i Strasbourg, Bruxelles eller Luxembourg, sørge for, at medlemmet er i stand til at udøve sit hverv med værdighed.
We must therefore do our utmost to prevent the sometimes tragic situations which lead to abortion.
Jeg gør opmærksom på, at hvad angår præsident Sadats tale, var Parlamentet samlet udelukkende til en højtidelighed, som gik forud for selve mødet, der faktisk formelt genoptoges kl. 16.30. Det drejer sig derfor om en situation sui generis, som forretningsor denens bestemmelser ikke finder anvendelse på.
My second proposal for action: in this society and in particular in its economic and social organization we face the danger, as a post-industrial society, of finding that, in the final analysis, the social facilities which should be installed are, overall, too costly and that the human being is too expensive to be kept alive, to be born, to be educated, to manage his own affairs.
Formanden. — Hr. Pannella, jeg har allerede haft lejlighed til at sige, at formandskabet'beklager den slags optrin, og at jeg personlig vil gå videre med de
But if children are to be educated, the means must be provided, and for that it is necessary to develop the policy that is required from the point of view not only of resources but also of adequate socio-cultural facilities.
Under alle omstændigheder skal formandskabet sørge for at hindre, også selv om det sker i et møde, der
In other words, crèches, nurseries, kindergartens, schools and so on.
(Bifald)
acceptable.
Jeg ønsker ikke, at dette spørgsmål om medlem mernes værdighed kommer videre end til hr. Lomas' jamrende, publicity-hungrende klage.
If the evolution in the position of women has been one of the most significant historical facts of this century, women's ability to control their own fertility has been crucial in this process.
(Bifald fra den europæiske demokratiske gruppe)
And let us be clear that that is not the case at the moment in several Community countries.
I artikel 10, stk. 4, hedder det, at formanden kan foreslå Parlamentet at tildele eri irettesættelse, der medfører omgående bortvisning fra salen og udelukkelse fra møderne for en periode fra to til fem dage.
By the same token I think we must recognize the intolerable damage — mental and physical — that can be produced by illegal back-street abortions where contraception fails.
Jeg anser hr. Capannas optræden for skandaløs og forsamlingen uværdig, og jeg ønsker, at formand skabet gør brug af artikel 10, stk. 4, for at udelukke ham i fire dage fra i dag at regne.
Any pressure which can be brought to bear through Community instruments on those Member States where abortion legislation is still unsatisfactory is, to my mind, wholly justified.
(Langvarigt bifald)
It is a dynamic construction.
Ville det have kunnet tillades, hvis noget medlem af forsamlingen havde ønsket verbalt at protestere mod hans besøg?
It is not a place for baking the soul or indeed any other parts of the anatomy, but I have to tell you that the months I have spent as a member of the ad hoc committee on Women's Rights under the chairman ship of Mrs Roudy have been an educative process.
Jeg tror, at De må korrigere Deres afgørelse og lade medlemmerne vide, hvornår de kan handle inden for deres rettigheders rammer.
I have learned a lot and I do believe that this kind of topic is properly of concern to the European Parliament.
Så vidt jeg ved, blev intet medlem af forsam lingen opfordret til at udtrykke sin mening om, hvor vidt præsident Sadat skulle tale til forsamlingen eller ej, og jeg bebuder, hr. formand, at jeg i fremtiden, når andre fremtrædende herrer indbydes til forsam lingen, bestemt vil fremsætte min protest på en måde og et tidspunkt, jeg selv finder rigtigt.
If we can raise the level of public awareness by reports and debates such as this, I think we will have done a great deal of good.
Må jeg sige til de ærede kolleger, at jeg på ingen måde har følt mig hæmmet af sikker hedsstyrkerne. Jeg vil bede kollegerne om ikke at puste det så stærkt op og fremstille det så grædefærdigt.
It is not neo-racism or neo-imperialism to suggest that Community aid be also examined, amongst other things, from the point of view of whether or not it helps to improve the position of women in recipient countries.
Vi ved alle, at præsident Sadat nok er en af de mest udsatte personer i denne verden, for han har fjender nok til alle sider, som kun er ude på at myrde ham. Vi bør ikke tage Deres episode så tungt.
In all the sessions of Mrs Roudy's commit tee, I attended no single fact struck me more forcefully than the report given in evidence to us that Community money — EEC money, Lomé money — was being used to finance a hospital in Mogadishu where female circumcision was still carried out.
Formanden kan jo meddele det til den luxembourgske sikkerhedstjeneste, der bestemt ikke har påtaget sig nogen nem opgave.
The more we realize this' the more we are likely to seek solutions.
Jeg mener at måtte erklære dette, efter at der er gjort bemærkninger om sagen.
Now, of course, this is a wide-ranging document — it is a wide-ranging subject.
Parlamentets medlemmer må naturligvis ikke være barnagtige, men må være klar over den situation, de befinder sig i.
We are dealing with half the population of Europe. The present economic situation does not provide us with an excuse for soft-pedalling any of the measures proposed in this report on the grounds that the economy as a whole, or individual firms, will not be able to afford them.
Jeg ønsker ikke, at der her rettes urimelige bebrejdelser mod dem, der skal sørge for såvel den egyptiske præsidents som vor alles sikkerhed.
On the contrary, the present economic crisis is pushing us now into a radical rethinking of the type of economic and social structures we need.
Også jeg er af den opfattelse, at hr. Capanna næppe har bidraget til vor ære og værdighed.
Some people think it is too imaginative, but that is not my view.
Til forslagsstilleren vil jeg gerne sige følgende: I tidligere tider, ved De, i enevældens tid, holdt man sig en hofnar til at fortælle sandheder.
It is absolutely crucial that legislation on equal pay and equal treatment be implemented.
I dag har vi ikke mere nogen enevældig hersker, men et demokrati.
I warmly support also those sections of the report which deal with better work-sharing between men and women.
Måske er det sådan, at vi må have råd til en hofnar, der siger dumheder.
Why, for example, can we not organize our social and economic lives so that men can actually be more active in bringing up children?
Derfor giver jeg afkald på her at forlange, at vi skal træffe særlige forholdsregler.
Speaking person ally as the father of four children, some of them grown up, I would have welcomed provision for parental leave for fathers, as proposed.
(Bifald fra midten og fra højre)
More seriously, I do realize in retrospect that I could have done much more than I did.
Fru Roudy har ordet til forretningsor-
There are apparently some controversial elements in this report, for example, those relating to contraception and abortion.
Formanden. — Fru Kellet-Bowman har ordet.
President. — In view of the time we must interrupt the debate.
Vi blev hindret af politiet.
Are there any comments?
Også jeg kunne fortælle, hvad der er hændt mig, når jeg er skrået over en gade eller gået ind ad en dør, men det er ikke Parlamentet værdigt.
And I have said today that I shall have to think very seriously about whether I shall ever come to Luxembourg again for a meeting after being treated in such a way.
Tilrettelæg en forhandling om hr. Sadats indlæg her, ja, optag den på dagsordenen; forsamlingen har behov for den, og det beviser den i dette øjeblik, men gå ikke hen bagefter og saboter vort arbejde, som så mange mennesker har set frem til, der har arbejdet ihærdigt med henblik på drøftelsen om kvindens stilling.
I understand when someone like Sadat is visiting this Parliament that there has to be a certain amount of security, but that does not excuse thuggery and behaviour such as I and my colleagues had to experience today,· and I want to protest to you, Mr President, about that behaviour. I hope that the President of this Parliament will protest to the security forces at the way they acted.
Jeg beder Dem derfor, hr. formand, om at give dem, der beder om ordet angående hr. Sadats indlæg, nogle tilsagn; sig til dem, at man vil afholde en seriøs forhandling om erklæringen, og lad os så gå videre til dagsordenen; det andet er barnagtigt.
I remind the House that President Anwar al Sadat will address the Members of the European Parliament at 3.30 p.m.1
Jeg forsøger at tage det roligt; jeg prøver at give Dem et nøjagtigt indtryk af, hvad der skete.
President. — Mr Boyes, I sympathize fully with your protest and I can only deplore the incident.
Til sidst skubbede jeg igen.
The sitting is suspended.
Formanden. —· Jeg agter at respektere ethvert medlems ret til at komme med indlæg til forretnings ordenen.
As you request at the end of your statement, I shall certainly inform the President so that the necessary steps can be taken to ensure that such incidents do not occur again. /
Hr. Pannella har ordet.
IN THE CHAIR: MR GONELLA
1-826/80) udsættes til næste mødeperiode.
I call Mr Boyes on a point of order.
Pannella. — (fr.)
We knew nothing about this.
Jeg skal nøjes med at ønske hr. Galland god fornøjelse på hans rejse til Italien.
The police, whether they be in Strasbourg, Brussels or Luxembourg, must ensure that parliamentarians are able to do their duty with dignity.
Hr. Galland, det lykkes Dem måske at overbevise os til at stemme anderledes.
And if that is not yet accepted, Mr President, either the Presidency should change its way of doing things or Parliament should change its Presidency.
For øjeblikket arbejder vi på, at Frankrig skifter konge og De skifter hof.
If we had not been carrying our passes with photographs and description then one could understand security forces not taking any risks.
(Munterhed)
(Mixed reactions)
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er fortsættelse af forhandlingen om Maij-Weggen betænkningen (dok. 1-829/80).
One of the people rushed at us with a rifle and in fact hit one of the female Members of this Parliament in the ribs with the butt of a rifle.
Fru De March har ordet.
I call Mr Lomas.
De March urimelig lille plads i denne betænkning, hvilket efter vor opfattelse næppe er nogen skæbnens tilskikkelse.
In any event, even outside of regular sittings, the President must ensure that demonstrations which everyone deplores do not take place.
Således foreligger der i Europa-Parlamentet bred samstemmighed mellem samtlige politiske dannelser med undtagelse af de franske og græske medlemmer af gruppen af kommunister og beslægtede, der klart går imod udvidelsen og fremfører dennes følger for befolkningernes liv.
the police in a most unnecessary manner on this bridge, I would like a further assurance not just that you will see, through Madam Veil, that this does not happen again, but that in fact a very full investigation will be made not only into the manner in which the police acted and who gave them the instructions to act to prevent Members from carrying out their duties, but also into the brutal way in which they did it.
Det er ikke noget tilfælde, at vor gruppe er den eneste, der har henledt ad hoc-udvalgets opmærksomhed på en undersøgelse af de græske, spanske og portugisiske kvinders stilling.
It was only when Mr Tindemans also arrived on the bridge that for some reason we were then allowed through. I think it is quite deplorable and something must be done and a full investigation made.
I de moderne perser knuser man også kvinderne, der udgør en tredjedel af den europæiske arbejdskraft, men samtidig 49,8 % af de arbejdsløse.
Mr Galland. — (F) Although we are all convinced that there is no need for a change of President, I can say one thing to Mr Pannella, and that is that we are now convinced that words should be said in the right places in certain countries to get them to change their elected representatives.
Hvor er deres frie valg?
I have the agenda here.
Hvilken indtægt man går glip af for det menneskelige samfunds udvikling!
It refers to a formal sitting, and that complies with the Rules of Procedure.
Det er det, der for alvor kompromitterer det menneskelige eventyr, der blev nævnt af en taler i formiddags.
Rule 10(4) states that the President may move that Parliament pass a vote of censure which shall automatically involve immediate exclusion from the Chamber and suspension from two to five days.
Tallene foreligger i deres barske virkelighed, hvad angår de græske, portugisiske eller spanske kvinder.
I find Mr Capanna's attitude unspeakable and degrading to this House, and I hope that the Presidency will take advantage of Rule 10(4) to exclude him for four days starting today.
Men dem er der ingen, der nævner her.
(Sustained applause)
Derfor skal jeg fremkomme med nogle af disse tal.
President. — I call Mr Langes.
I denne forbindelse vil jeg gerne have lov til at fremsætte en bemærkning.
Mrs Ewing. — Was the MEP who conducted the mini-demonstration in order in this House or was he out of order?
Tiden er knap, da det jo gælder om at nå frem til den profit, der venter på de store selskaber ved vejs ende.
If he was in order, then this House could be reduced to chaos because we could all wave our slogans and our flags, during anybody's speech.
I Spanien udgør kvinderne 29 % af den aktive befolkning, men henved 40 % af de arbejdsløse.
If, Mr President, on the other hand, he was out of order, what consequences follow now?
I Portugal udgør kvinderne 40 % af de arbejdsløse i industrien; 38 % af de voksne kvinder er analfabeter, og i mange tilfælde ligger kvindernes løn kun på halv delen af mændenes.
I have only got experience of eight years in one Parliament — West minster — and five years in this Parliament, but I have always understood that when people were out of order in a serious way, consequences followed: in Westminster the minor one was naming the Member; the other ones were suspension of the Member for varying periods of time and even, I believe, incarceration in the Tower of London was there as a possibility!
Nej, mine herrer, udvidelsen har ikke noget at gøre med kvindens interesser i vore lande lige så lidt som i ansøgerlandene!
I should like to tell the honourable Members that I in no way feel that the security forces restrict my free dom.
Da man har berørt emnet i Rådets beretning, skal jeg tilføje, at kvinderne i udviklings landene heller ikke skal vente sig noget godt. For øvrigt mener AVS-landenes regeringer, at udvidelsen kun vil medføre nye hindringer for deres udvikling.
As we all know, President Sadat's life is undoubtedly among the most threatened in this world, because he has enough enemies on all sides whose sole object is to murder him.
Denne forhandling om kvindens rettigheder i Fælles skabet er hverken for os eller for mig nogen teoretisk forhandling.
I believe my question is a serious one and must be faced up to by this forum in the interests of all the Members.
Vi sætter den i forbindelse med vor tid, med det liv og de kampe, som kvinderne fører, først og fremmest i vort eget land.
President. — Mrs Ewing, you have raised the ques tion whether certain deplorable actions, such as those which took place, are contrary to the Rules of Procedure. dure.
Derfor kræver vi da også i kvindernes interesse om gående standsning af udvidelsesforhandlingerne, der som ved et under er kommet længst på det område, der har med de kapitalbevægelser at gøre, der udgør deres væsentligste aspekt.
The President can, of course, bring the incident to the attention of the Luxembourg security services, who have certainly not had an easy job to do.
Oprivning af vinstokke, frugt og grønsager der bliver kørt på lossepladsen, stor import, det er det, vi stifter bekendtskab med i vore regioner, for slet ikke at tale om nedlæggelse af virksomheder, der beskæftiger kvindelig arbejdskraft. Det er altsammen i strid med kvindernes interesser!
But, ladies and gentlemen, I really must appeal to you not to spoil this important hour here in Parliament with subsequent petty reactions.
Men selvfølgelig er alt dette fru Martin, der repræsenterer de kvindelige Giscard-tilhængere, helt lige gyldigt.
To Mr Galland I would say this: as you know, in the age of absolutism court jesters were kept to speak words of wisdom.
Uddannelse og forfremmelse udgør den regning, der skal
The case is unprecedented and therefore not covered by the , Rules of Procedure.
De finder sig ikke længere i trældom, gammeldags mentalitet, nej, de vælger ufortøvet at kæmpe for opnåelse af ligestilling på alle områder.
who are responsible for the safety both of the President of Egypt and of us all.
Og vi står ved deres side.
(Applause from the centre and the right)
det ikke er nok at give love for at få ændret mentali­teten.
President. — I call Mrs Roudy on a point of order.
Der er fremdeles for megen tilbageholdenhed, for meget der tynger: alt det må væk, og det arbejder vi på hver eneste dag.
But provision had. not been made for this debate, and that is all there is to say about it.
Som vi alle ved er ligestillingen, selv om den er lovfæ­stet, endnu langtfra effektiv, og det vil kun være gennem en vedvarende aktion, der foregår hver eneste dag, gennem fast overbevisning, at vi vil kunne komme alle de forhindringer til livs, der hober sig op på vor vej.
We shall therefore have to make provision for it and hold it, but we cannot allow this kind of collective outburst which we are now witnessing and which makes no sense.
For de franske medlemmer af gruppen af kommuni­ster og beslægtede vil der ikke være tale om nogen forbedring af kvindens stilling i Fællesskabet uden disse ord, som man ikke har hørt meget i formiddags: social retfærdighed, ny frihed, folkestyre, værdighed og respekt for hver enkelt kvinde og hver enkelt mand.
Mr Kellett-Bowman. — Mr President, on a point of order: when I got here yesterday I was given a circular from the Quaestors saying that due to a visit by the President of Egypt there would be some small inconvenience to Members, so I was not unduly surprised this afternoon to find that police were blocking off the little bridge by the building.
Ej heller vil der ske fremskridt i kvindens forhold uden en beslutsom kamp for nedrustning, fred og samarbejde, uden at man indstiller det kolos­sale spild, der er en følge af rustningskapløbet, projektet om neutronbomber og missiler i Europa.
It seemed to me to be perfectly normal for the people charged with security to want to stop members of the public etc. from being on a bridge below which a distinguished person was going to pass.
Og så må vi håbe, at tiden endelig oprinder for en virkelig hjælp til udviklingslandene, til de børn, hvoraf millioner dør af sult verden over!
I did not see any Members molested — I saw Members politely refused passage, even though they showed their passes.
For vort vedkommende har vi valgt i praksis at omsætte denne linje af forfatteren Aragon: »Kvinden er menneskehe­dens fremtid.«
I did hear what I think to be objectionable and challenging language from Mr Lomas; to look at men in uniform and say 'typical Fascist' to my mind is provocative.
I de minutter, som jeg har til rådighed, vil jeg gerne prøve på at overbevise forsamlingen om nødvendig­heden af at fortsætte ad hoc­udvalgets arbejde i et fast kvindeudvalg, som vi anmoder om at få oprettet i medfør af forretningsordenens artikel 37.
I too could tell you what happened to me as I crossed the road or passed through a door, but that is not worthy of this Assembly. Arrange for a debate on the statement Mr Sadat has made here, yes, enter it in the agenda.
Jeg vil gerne have lov til at rette nogle spørgsmål til Parlamentet: hvem skal føre tilsyn med den faktiske gennemførelse af alle de foranstaltninger, der er inde­holdt i det forslag til beslutning, som vi har fået fore­lagt til godkendelse?
This Assembly needs such a debate, and it is proving so at this moment, but do not sabotage our proceedings, which have been awaited by many people who have done a great deal of work for the debate on the position of women.
Hvad er værdien af beslutnings­forslagets indhold, hvis der ikke sker mere i sagen, og hvis man ikke er i stand til at gennemføre nogen form for kontrol?
I therefore ask you, Mr President, to give assurances to those who ask to speak on Mr Sadat's statement, tell them that a serious debate on that statement will be arranged, and let us get on with the agenda. All this is childish.
Maij­Weggen­betænkningen foreligger.
President. — I call Mr Paisley on a point of order.
Den bør fremmes på en for kvinderne fordelagtig måde.
(Applause from various quarters)
Men hvem skal udgøre det, som man har vedtaget at betegne som pressionsgruppe med det særlige formål at kontrollere, at medlemsstaterne gennemfører de i disse direktiver indeholdte bestem­melser?
President. — I intend to respect the right of every Member to table procedural motions.
Hvilket organ skal vende et åbent øre til de ideer, der bliver fremført fra de europæiske kvinders side?
Mr Paisley. — Mr President, you said today that the sitting with President Sadat was not a plenary sitting, and therefore the rules did not apply.
Hvem skal føre tilsyn med de mulige virkninger af forslag til direktiver, henstillinger og forordninger, der forelægges Parlamentet om de europæiske kvin­ders forhold?
If any Member of this Assembly had wanted to protest verbally over his visit, would that then have been in order?
Det vil kun et stående udvalg kunne gøre.
I think that you need to rectify this ruling and let Members know how they can act within their rights.
Derfor må vi også lægge en vis opportunisme for dagen med hensyn til iværksættelse af de aktioner, der skal muliggøre en løsning af de mange problemer, der rejser sig for kvinderne, og ikke afvente Europa­Parlamentets nyvalg i 1984.
No Member of this Assembly, as far as I know, was consulted as to whether President Sadat should address this Assembly or not, and I certainly in the future, Sir, give you notice that when other eminent gentlemen are asked to this Assembly, I will make my protest in my own way, at my own time.
Det viser, hvor stor en indsats der er blevet gjort, selv om de målsætninger, der er nedlagt i teksterne, langtfra er gennemført i praksis.
Mr Tolman. — (NL) Mr President, I realize that if someone makes a complaint, he can enforce his right to an investigation, but I also passed over the bridge today.
Desværre må vi alle fastslå, at ι Dersom vort direkte valgte Parlament virkelig har til hensigt at gøre noget til fordel for kvinderne, så må det se at komme i gang for alvor.
I was not molested in any way, and the behaviour of those who are responsible for the safety of us all was correct in every respect.
Mener De virkelig, at det er nødvendigt at vente i to år, før man igen beskæftiger sig med kvindens problemer i Fællesskabet?
The Members of Parliament must not be childish, of course, but appreciate the situation as it is.
Er det ikke det samme som at føre strudsepolitik og at nægte at se realiteterne i
I should not like to see a slur cast unnecessarily on those
Risikerer kvindens stilling ikke at blive yderligere forringet som følge af den økonomiske krise, der, som vi udmærket ved, gør det vanskeligt at skabe arbejdspladser?
Mrs De March. — (F) Mr President, the contribution we have to make to this debate is not a gratuitous act, but a serious act and also an act of reflection, designed to bring about some progress.
Den liberale og demokratiske gruppe kan ikke acceptere en forringelse af kvindens nuværende stilling i Europa.
According to our analysis of the situation, the position of women cannot be improved if the class struggle in Europe is ignored.
Jeg støtter mit hjemlands Single Women's Organisation i ønsket om, at man tager et vist hensyn til de ugifte kvinder, som frivilligt giver afkald på karriere og pension for at passe ældre slægtninge, og som ikke får noget vederlag herfor, selv om det betyder en betydelig besparelse for staten, at disse ældre slægtninge bliver passet i hjemmet.
The motion for a resolution tabled by the ad hoc committee rightly underlines how little attention is paid by the European Community to the position of women in Greece, Spain and Portugal.