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Det, jeg ønsker at gøre fra denne offentlige talerstol, er at appellere til virksomhedsledelserne i alle landene, og navnlig i mit eget, om nu at begynde at omstille sig til at klare disse situationer gennem en gradvis indsats med sigte på at bringe alle deres arbejdstagere ind i et fortrolighedsforhold og dermed undgå at skabe frygt.
Workers are quite capable of taking, carrying and assuming responsibilities, provided they are given the information they ask for and provided they can work in an atmosphere of mutual trust.
Det andet jeg ønsker er, som hr. Tyrrell sagde, at det skal blive et springbræt.
The other thing I would like to see is, as Mr Tyrrell said, that it should be a springboard.
Vi har nu noget, som ledelse og arbejdstagere, og vel også aktionærer, kan arbejde sammen om.
We now have something where management and worker can work together, and presumably also the shareholder.
Jeg er bekymret over, at forbrugeren ikke er med i dette.
I am worried that the consumer is left out of the account.
Ingen taler nogen sinde om ham. I mange henseender er dette en svaghed i denne forsamling.
Nobody ever seems to talk about him.
Som sidste led er der et marked, og ingen synes' at tænke på, at medmindre vi kan tilfredsstille forbrugeren, kan vi ikke nå særligt langt.
In the end there is a market, and nobody seems to think about the fact that unless we can satisfy a consumer we shall not really get very far.
Min tredje bemærkning: vi bør erkende, at forholdene varierer fra land til land, og at der navnlig fore ligger grundlæggende forskellige opfattelser i vore landes dagligdag.
My third point is that we have to recognize that the situation varies from country to country and that there is a fundamental difference of approach between Ger manic and Latin countries.
I de germanske lande har man således igennem en årrække, ja endog i flere årtier, indtaget holdninger, der muliggør medindflydelse under medansvar mellem arbejdsgivere og arbejdstagere på forskellige niveauer.
In the Germanic countries they have for many years, decades even, been laying the foundations for a form of participation based on joint responsibility.
Det er tilfældet i Nederlandene.
The same is true in the Netherlands.
I de latinske lande er man på dette plan. langt mere tilbageholdende. Og man må erkende, at de faglige organisationer ikke er rede til at sætte sig ved bestyrelsens bord, men ønsker ikke blot at bestyrke deres tilstedeværelse i kontroludvalgene, men også i samtlige bestyrelses- og kontrolorganer.
In the Latin countries, on the other hand, pro gress along these lines has been much slower and it is essential to understand that the trade union organiza tions are not yet ready to sit round the boardroom table, preferring instead to reinforce their presence on supervisory committees and works councils.
Det er derfor af vigtighed, at man tager hensyn til de forskellige situationer.
It is important therefore for these different situations to be taken into account.
FORSÆDE: PATRICK LALOR Næstformand
IN THE CHAIR: MR LALOR
Min fjerde bemærkning er, at selv om det er hævet over enhver tvivl, at retsudvalget har en vigtig rolle at spille i hele denne sag, så må man bestemt ikke tilsidesætte socialudvalget og sagens sociale og dermed humane aspekter.
My fourth point is that whilst the views of the Legal Affairs Committee count for a great deal in all this, so do the views of the Committee on Social Affairs and Employment because of the social aspects of the problem. lem.
Derfor vil jeg gerne have lov til at understrege følgende fire orienteringspunkter.
That is why I should like now to make four observations. tions.
Michel. — (FR) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, også jeg vil gerne takke hr. Geurtsen for den glimrende betænkning, han har forelagt for os.
Mr Michel. — (FR) Mr President, I too would like to thank Mr Geurtsen for the excellent report he has given us.
Jeg må sige som min første bemærkning, at jeg, da jeg satte mig ind i den, og ikke mindst ved gennemlæsningen af alt det
I must say first of all than when I think and especially when I read about all this continual referral back to committee I am reminded of the Loch Ness Monster.
Det første er, at vi sammen med en række kolleger har stillet nogle ændringsforslag, som min kollega, hr. Chanterie allerede for lidt siden har kommenteret, og
The first is that we have put down a number of amendments which Mr Chanterie has already com mented on and which have been countersigned by Mr Macario, Mr Verroken and myself.
Michel et multinationalt selskabs beslutning, fik de ansatte ikke nyheden, før de hørte den i radioen.
Michel bring our positions closer together.
Er der altså virkelig sket fremskridt, eller må vi ikke sige, at den gabende kløft stadig er gabende?
In fact there will have to be compromises if we want this directive to go through.
som er medundertegnet af hr. Macario, hr. Verroken og jeg selv. Det andet er, at vi endnu ikke kender de socialistiske ændringsforslag, lige så lidt som de øvrige.
There was a great experiment on the Clyde in Fairfields' yard where Sir Ian Stewart decided that the thing to do was to make sure that everybody knew what was happening at every stage of the day.
Vi er rede til sammen med alle parter at søge veje til at nå frem til sammenfaldende synspunkter.
If there was good news for the yard the men got it through a line of communication within the hour, and if it was bad news about a lack of orders they got that com munication within the hour as well.
Og vi ønsker, at det går igennem, og derfor må vi finde sammenhængende løsninger til vedtagelse af direktivet. tivet.
Lack of communication is one of the things that make us look for some solution to the yawning gulf.
Manglende kommunikation er en af de ting, som får os til at søge efter en løsning til at få lukket det gabende svælg. Jeg tror, at der må være en yis grad af arbejdstagermedindflydelse.
Lastly, large undertakings and their subsidiaries will, we hope, in their turn take into account the directive about which we have debated so long, that is to say the Vredeling directive.
Det er altså mine synspunkter.
So I put myself on record.
Jeg vil støtte betænkningen, men jeg ønsker ikke at fordømme fremgangsmåden i andre lande.
I would support the report, but I do not want to condemn other countries' practices. tices.
Til den tid, og vi håber det bliver meget snart, vil vi få lejlighed til at genoptage hele dette spørgsmål om informationen, således at hver især kan handle med nøje kendskab til sagen til den tid.
When that point is reached — very soon, we hope — we shall have the opportunity to take the whole matter up again in relation to information, so that everyone can act with full knowledge of what is involved.
Navnlig vedrørende de multinationale.
That goes particularly for the multinationals.
Vi håber, at det må kunne ske under iagttagelse af alles værdighed, og i hvert fald at det må kunne lade sig gøre, at de alt for hyppigt tilsidesatte arbejdstagere omsider må blive værdsat, ikke blot for deres arbejdsindsats, men for det de er, nemlig mennesker som alle andre.
We hope that this can be done while respecting the dignity of all concerned and that, in any event, it will be possible for the workers, who are so frequently ignored, to be appreciated at last not just for the work they do but for what they are, that is, individuals in their own right.
Schnitker. — (DE) Hr. formand, også jeg vil først takke hr. Geurtsen hjerteligt for hans betænkning.
Mr Schnitker. — (DE) Mr President, I should also like to express my warmest thanks to Mr Geurtsen for his report.
Jeg mener, at denne betænkning er nødvendig, når det drejer sig om erhvervslivets giganter.
I believe that this report is necessary for industry at the level of the big corporations.
I den forbindelse overses det ganske vist ofte, at der ikke bare er store koncerner og aktieselskaber — erhvervslivets giganter — men at der ved siden af også er små og mellem store virksomheder.
But we often overlook the fact that industry consists not only of large conglomerates and corporations — the giants of industry— but also small and medium-sized under takings.
Jeg anser det derfor på sin plads endnu en gang i denne kreds tydeligt at henvise til et andet aspekt.
It seems to me therefore necessary to draw attention to another aspect of this question.
Jeg anser det for så meget mere påkrævet, som jeg turde regne mig til de få medlemmer, der selv driver en lille og mellemstor virksomhed for egen regning og risiko og selv må indestå med deres kapital.
It seems all the more necessary to me, as one of the few Members who run a small or medium-sized firm themselves and who have to operate it at their own risk and carry liability for it with their own capital.
Denne information står i nær forbindelse med de kendsgerninger, jeg nu vil fremlægge.
This information ties in closely with the point I now wish to make.
Ewing. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg tager ordet her for at give udtryk for mit partis — måske ikke min gruppes — synspunkter angående arbejdstagermedbestemmelse.
Mrs Ewing. — Mr President, I rise to put my party's position — perhaps not my group's position — on record with regard to workers' participation.
I en nøddeskal går vi ind for det.
In a nutshell we approve of it.
Jeg tror, det har meget at gøre med historien bag vor industri elle revolution, som i Skotland og England skete meget tidligt, navnlig i det centrale Skotland, hvor kombinationen af uddannelse og rige mineralforekomster medførte en meget hurtig udvikling, måske hurtigere end samfundets evne til at tilpasse sig.
I think it has a lot to do with the history of our industrial revolution which in Scotland and in England occurred very early on, particularly in the central belt of Scotland where the combination of education and mineral wealth combined to develop what we had very very quickly, perhaps ahead of the ability of the society to take account of it.
Jeg er klar over, at man ikke bør være doktrinær på dette punkt, fordi hver medlemsstat har arvet sine helt specielle erfaringer på dette følsomme område, og mine synspunkter skal ikke på nogen måde forstås som en dom over andre medlemsstater, der har oplevet en industriel revolution på et senere tidspunkt.
I know that one should not be doctrinaire here because each Member State has inherited a quite different experience in this delicate area, and I am not in any sense offering my position as a judgment on any other Member State which had an industrial revolution a bit later.
Jeg sagde, at denne betænkning er nødvendig, når det drejer sig om erhvervslivets giganter.
I said that the report was necessary at the level of the big industrial firms.
I den forbindelse overses hyppigt, at der i Europa er en mængde små og mellemstore virksomheder — over 13 millioner — for hvem det unuancerede princip — på den ene side kapital og på den anden side arbejde — ikke gælder sådan uden videre.
It is frequently overlooked in this connection that Europe has an abundance of small and medium-sized firms — over 13 million — for which the globalization principle — capital on one side, labour on the other — simply does not apply.
Kapital og arbejde smelter sammen dér.
Capital and labour in these firms shade off into one another.
Det må man vide, hvis man vil føre en ansvarsbevidst debat om det femte direktiv.
We must be aware of this, if we are to debate the fifth directive in a responsible manner.
Jeg ser med bekymring, hvordan forslagene til medbestemmelse mange steder bliver bestemt af storvirksomhedernes synspunkter på den ene side og industriforbundenes på den anden.
I am concerned to observe how in many quarters the concepts of co-determination are defined in terms of the big industrial corporations on the one hand and the industrial trade unions on the other.
Man taler om industrisamfund.
It is said that we are an industrial society.
De tyske fagforeninger kalder sig industriforbund, og i henhold til denne betegnelse udarbejder man også planerne og sætter den politiske kurs.
The German trade unions call them selves 'industry unions', so concepts are defined and policy framed in accordance with this terminology.
Det jeg ønsker at understrege er, at vi efter krigen havde et gabende svælg mellem ledelse og ansatte. De to parter talte ikke med hinanden.
What I would like to say is that after the war we had a yawning gulf between management and men.
Og i Clydesideområdet erfarede de ansatte, om de var blevet fyret, ved at læse det i den avis, de købte, når de forlod værfterne efter arbejdstids ophør.
And in the Clydeside men learnt if they were to get the sack from the evening paper that they bought on the way out of the yards.
Det er ikke acceptabelt.
Now that is not tolerable.
På en vis måde sker det stadig.
In a certain sense it is still happening.
I Invergordon i mit område, hvor 850 ansatte blev ledige som følge af
In Invergordon, in my area, where 850 men lost their jobs as the result of a multinational's decision, they did not get the news until they heard on the radio.
Men virkeligheden ser helt anderledes ud.
The reality is entirely different, however.
90 % af alle virksomheder er små og mellemstore virksom-
Sixty per cent of the workers in the European Community are employed in these small and medium-sized firms, not in the big corporations.
Med denne bemærkning henviser jeg til den stabiliserende funktion, der udøves af de små og mellemstore virksomheder, der ikke må forstyrres i deres bevæge lighed og i denne stabiliserende funktion.
Schnitker and medium-sized firms, and it is important that this stabilizing function and the mobility of these firms should not be impaired.
Det må altså undgås, at europæiske medbestemmelsesdirektiver kan føre til, at ønsket om selvstændighed, ønsket om at starte en egen virksomhed sygner hen, og at der hos de unge mestre, der vil starte en virksomhed, opstår frygt for, at store masse organer gennem selvbestemmelse kan få indflydelse på den lille virksomhed og fremkalde konflikter der, hvor der ikke er nogen.
We must therefore avoid a situtation in which the desire to become independent and to start one's own firm could be damaged by European co-determination directives and in which young skilled craftsmen, who would like to start a business of their own, are frightened off by the prospect of seeing organs of mass co-determination brought in to rule over the affairs of the small business and of seeing conflicts introduced from outside into places where there would be none otherwise.
Hvis man undgår det, ser jeg et egnet kompromis i det femte direktiv.
If that is avoided, I can see a suitable com promise in the fifth directive.
Jeg er som hr. Hoffmann af den opfattelse, at det nu gælder om at slå bro fra den ene socialgruppe til den anden og fra en position i midten at medvirke i helheden og frem for alt at finde løsninger for fremtiden.
I share the view of my colleague, Mr Hoffmann, that we must now build bridges from one social group to another, in order to work together on the endeavour as a whole from a middle position and, most especially, to find solutions for the future.
Geurtsen, ordfører. — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne allerede nu sige tak til de af mine kolleger, der under forhandlingen har bidraget til en uddybelse af problemstillingen og indsigten heri.
Mr Geurtsen, rapporteur. — (NL) Mr President, I should like to thank all those who have helped to throw more light on the subject matter and the problems during this debate.
Jeg takker natur ligvis alle, som har villet støtte betænkningen, men min tak går også til de kolleger, som står meget kritisk, ja endog afvisende over for den i betænkningen foreslåede løsning.
I naturally thank all those who have said they intend to vote for the report, but my thanks also go to Members who are very critical of the solution proposed in the report or even reject it.
Jeg vil navnlig over for dem endnu en gang forsøge at klargøre retsudvalgets standpunkt.
For the sake of these Members in particular I will endeavour once again to explain the Legal Affairs Committee's position.
Deraf kan følgende konklusion drages: i vores diskussion om det femte direktiv må man undgå alt det, der kunne skabe det indtryk, at det var meningen at presse de små og mellemstore virksomheder ind i et stramt korset af bureaukratiske, lovbestemte medbestemmelsesdirektiver.
The conclusion to be drawn from this is that every thing must be done in our debate on the fifth directive to prevent giving the impression that it is the intention here to bring the small and medium-sized firms into a straitjacket of legal and bureaucratic measures govern ing worker participation.
Situationen i disse små og mellemstore virksomheder skaber også et helt andet klima.
The situation in these small and medium-sized firms creates an entirely different climate.
Dér står mennesket endnu i begivenhedernes midtpunkt, dér tjener også maskinen endnu mennesket som værktøj og ikke mennesket maskinen.
In them, man is still at the centre of the pro cess: the machine serves as a tool for man, he is not there to serve the machine.
Alt det skaber til sammen et helt andet klima og forhindrer langt hen ad vejen, at der dannes fronter mellem virksomhedens indehaver, f.eks. en håndværksmester, og hans dygtige medarbejdere, medmindre disse fronter blev skabt som resultat af ydre påvirkning på den intakte virksomhed og til skade for det harmoniske samarbejde.
Altogether, this establishes an entirely different climate and to a large extent prevents the drawing of fronts between the proprietor of the firm and, for example, the shop floor supervisor and his able workmen, unless such fronts have been implanted from outside into the intact operating system and the harmony existing between those who interact in it.
Her står håndværksmesteren og virksomhedsindehaveren i samme arbejdstøj og med samme ansvar på arbejdspladsen over for produktet og også over for kunden.
In these firms, the shop floor supervisor or the proprietor and his workers are on the same footing at the workplace dealing under joint responsiblity — often in the same work clothes — with the work in hand and the customer.
Man må undgå alt det, der kunne skabe det indtryk, at de små og mellemstore virksomheder med deres sunde strukturer skulle ind under stive ordninger, der ville føre til forstyrrelser, til konflikter eller begrænsninger.
Everything must be avoided which could create the impression that the small and medium-sized firms with their sound structures are to be drawn into rigid legal frameworks which would lead to disruption, conflicts or an atmosphere of constraint.
Det må der tages hensyn til under alle vores overvejelser, der — det være uomtvistet — for storindustriens vedkommende svarer til dagens krav.
This must be borne in mind in all our deliberations, which in the case of the big firms in industry — we are not disputing that — are concerned with a need of our time.
Medbestemmelsen må altså ikke føre til, at den i de små og mellemstore virksomheder fra menneske til menneske praktiserede medbestemmelse bliver sat ud af kraft eller forstyrret af lovbestemte bureaukratiske medbestemmelsesordninger.
Co-determination must not be allowed to lead to a situation in which the interaction of individuals in the process of running the small and medium-sized firms in which they work is made redundant or is disrupted by legalistic or bureaucratized worker participation arrangements.
For ham gælder det i særdeleshed, at det gør mig ondt, at han ikke i går hørte, hvad Kommissionen sagde om retsudvalgets betænkning og opfattelse, selv om Kommissionens besked åbenbart nok er inået frem gennem hr. Vetters gruppefæller.
I am especially sorry that he did not hear what the Commission said yesterday about the report and views of the Legal Affairs Com mittee, although Mr Vetter's fellow group members apparently got the Commission's message.
Kernen i hr. Narjes' redegørelse var, at den tanke om fleksibilitet med hensyn til medinflydelsesordnirtg, som er udtrykt i betænkningen, kun kan gøre direktivet mere attraktivt.
The crux of Mr Narjes' statements was that the idea of flexibility in worker participation for which the report provides can only make the directive more attractive.
Også med hensyn til ordningen om en over gangstid som lovgiverens selvstændige forpligtelse — i stedet for som nu at fastsætte et endeligt resultat, således kan jeg nok sammenfatte hr. Narjes' hemærkning — skriver Kommissionen klart under på tendensen hos retsudvalgets flertal.
The Com mission also clearly endorses the line adopted by the majority of the Legal Affairs Committee in preferring to have a transitional period during which the legislature is committed to adopting the necessary legislation rather than deciding now what the final result will be.
200 medarbejdere — for at nævne et tal.
I have little to add to this.
Jeg er noget overrasket over hr. Vetters udtalelse om, at direktivet kun er acceptabelt, hvis det ændres i socialistisk ånd.
I am rather surprised by Mr Vetter's remark that the directive is acceptable only if it is amended to suit Socialist views.
Åbenbart stiller hr. Vetter den socialistiske ideologi over opnåelsen af resultater med hensyn til medindflydelse.
Evidently Mr Vetter places Socialist ideology above the achievement of results in worker participation.
Hr. Sieglerschmidt har forklaret, hvorfor det forholder sig således.
Mr Sieglerschmidt has explained why this is so.
For at blive i hans eget billedsprog: retsudvalget leverer ikke nogen ruin, men et ordentligt hus, som nogle finder at der er en mangel ved: det er ikke rødmalet; andre mener, at dette netop er en stor fordel ved dette hus.
To keep to his own metaphor, the Legal Affairs Committee is not supplying a ruin but a proper house, which some feel has one deficiency: it is not painted red. Others feel that this is precisely where its great advantage lies.
Håndværk begynder altid dér, hvor der ofte er brug for en til en bestemt situation bundet personlig engangspræstation.
Craftsmanship always starts at the point where a unique personal performance is required linked to a particular situation.
I de små og mellemstore virksom heder kommer det an på en personlig indsats i modsætning til de mere mekaniserede og anonyme produktionsformer i storindustrien.
In the small and medium-sized firms production is a personalized pro cess, in contrast to the more instrumental and anonymous production which takes place in the big industrial undertakings.
Dertil kræves en stor bevægelighed, det sikrer arbejdspladser.
In addition, it requires a high degree of mobility, and that secures jobs.
Den, der vil gøre varig ende på arbejdsløsheden, må vide, at han må lukke den lakune, der betyder hindringer for den selvstændige.
Anyone who is concerned to find a lasting solution to the problem of unemployment in Europe must know that the gap in the small independent producer sector must be closed.
Enhver selvstændig betyder i første
I make this comment in order to point out the stabilizing function of the small
Hr. formand, min forbavselse gælder frem for alt også hr. Vetters standpunkt, at bedømmelsen af
I am also surprised, Mr President, that Mr Vetter should feel that the assessment of the proposal must be
forslaget navnlig må være afhængig af den afgørelse, som træffes med hensyn til selskabsstrukturen. Måske kan hans gruppefælde, hr. Megahy, oplyse ham om det problem, som forpligtelsen til den dualistiske struktur fremkalder i Det forenede Kongerige.
Geurtsen linked to the decision on the structure of the company. · Perhaps his fellow group member Mr Megahy can explain to him once again the problems that would be caused if the two-tier system were made compulsory in the United Kingdom.
Hr. Janssen van Raay har forsøgt at sætte dette problem i det rette lys, men desværre var hr. Vetter heller ikke til stede dengang.
Mr Janssen van Raay has tried to put this problem into perspective, but again at a time when Mr Vetter was unfortunately not present.
Gennem ensretning af selskabsstrukturen fremkalder man kun modstand mod medindflydelse.
Coordinating company structures will merely provoke resistance to worker participation.