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Der hersker enighed blandt alle dem, der arbejder inden for AIDS-hjælpen, om al tale om »de hårdest ramte grupper« og ikke om »risikogrupper«, fordi risikoen her ikke er mennesket, men sygdommen.
But neither must we reduce the competitiveness of European business by artificially increasing the price of energy: this would be the devil's work indeed.
Jeg anmoder derfor Parlamentets medlemmer om ved den særskilte afstemning at stemme imod punkt D.
I think they must have been construed in the wild and nightmarish mind of Mr Smith the night afterwards.
Formanden. — Jeg skal meddele Dem, at jeg har modtaget ændringsforslag nr. 3/1 ('), der erstatter de to beslutningsforslag.
Mr Wurtz (COM). — (FR) Mr President, the European Commission's draft on the new system of aid to the coal industry contains two main ideas.
Vor aktivitet med dette beslutningsforslag kan kun være et første skridt. Vi bør overveje, om vi ikke bør nedsætte et undersøgelsesudvalg om de farer, der er forbundet med AIDS, og om den mangel på forskning og information, der hersker i EF-landene.
Fourthly, shortterm measures — here I am thinking in terms of three, four or five years, not ten or twenty — can be justified in the coal industry to cushion the negative social and regional effects caused by the rate of structural change arising from new technologies.
(Kompromisændringsforslaget vedtoges)
But only for a limited time, Mr Peters.
Seligman (ED). — (EN) Hr. formand, De husker sik kert, at vi skulle skynde os og opføre AIDS-forhand-lingen tirsdag eftermiddag næsten uden varsel.
First, that the Community must, as Brussels sees it, boost coal imports to the detriment of employment and production in Europe.
Der er to andre beslutninger, som er af forholdsmæssig ringe betydning.
So the principle of security of supply is no longer seen to be an imperative.
van der Lek (ARC). — (NL) Vi vil stemme for størsteparten af beslutningen.
I therefore reject any attempt to make it compulsory to heat public buildings with coal.
Vi har imidlertid pro blemer med punkt D, der faktisk antyder, at AIDS egentlig først bliver et alvorligt problem, når ikke kun visse risikogrupper, såsom homoseksuelle, narkoma
The public interest is not best served by either a constant increase in state aid, which was what
(') Ændringsforslag af Schinzel, Seibel-Emmerling. Linkohr, Viehoff, Ford, Crawley, Van Hemeldonck, Glinne, Schreiber, Seeler, Simons og Gautier for den socialistiske gruppe, Poniatowski samt Seligman for den europæiske demokratiske gruppe. pe.
This disastrous idea was obviously decided in agreement with some of the governments concerned.
Fru Vayssades forespørgsel er god — den vil vi gerne vedtage.
The stream of redundancies has started.
Men atter rejser sig det pinlige spørgsmål, om vore bureaukrater vi holde sig til anvisninger, som ikke passer dem?
More than half the official aid is being spent on this liquidation.
Formanden. — Vi kan først stille dette spørgsmål, når vi har stemt om de enkelte punkter.
However, the Spanish socialists will not be able to vote for this new system of aid, because we believe that the 25% of total Spanish coal production is not treated with justice.
Ordføreren har allerede meddelt, at han bagefter vil stille Kommissionen dette spørgsmål.
It is of fundamental importance that it should be left quite clear that we do not produce peat, we prod uce both old and young lignites.
På den tyske side kunne grænse- og toldbetjentene desværre ikke give og nogen oplysninger, og da slet ikke nye formularer. Heller ikke ADAC-kontoret i toldadministrationen i Breisach kunne hjælpe os.
Spain is treated unjustly, because, Mr President, France and Greece do include their lignite production within the system of Community aid.
Hvad drejer det sig om?
One last word.
Det fremgår af ændringsforslaget, at man i Spa nien har noget, man kalder stenkul med lavt bitumenindhold.
The European Commission has had the delicate task to announce, even before our debate started, that is would not be taking any notice of our amendments.
Hertil kræver man af hensyn til den kaloriske evne tekniske kvaliteter.
Thank you for your candour, Mr Mosar.
(Ved successive afstemninger: — vedtoges forslag til beslutning (dok. B2-1691/85); til beslutning (dok. B2-
It is unjust, Mr President, because Spain is respecting the spirit of the Croux report by not importing a single tonne of coal from third countries, and neither does it figure in our plans for the immediate future to do so.
— forkastedes forslag 1693/85);
Not a single tonne of lignite leaves our country.
Jeg foreslår, at vi lader sidste del af ændringsforslag nr. 17 udgå fra ordene og som på grund af deres..., idet der dér gemmer sig en misforståelse, og at vi i stedet tilføjer noget andet, nemlig det følgende.
We are in favour of European independence with regard to supplies, in favour of defending and protect ing the European coal mining industry and its production against Australian, North American and South African coal.
Jeg må måske lige oplæse teksten, således at præsidiet kan tage det til efterretning.
This latter is mined at low cost, because basically the miners belong to the badly-paid and exploited black majority.
Jeg foreslår derfor, at ændringsforslag nr. 17 får følgende ordlyd :
In the case under discussion now, about which I am speaking, if we adopt the Spanish socialist amendment, that is the amendment No 17 to which I have already referred, then Parliament could facilitate the creation of a consensus at the meeting of the Council on Energy, to held on the 20th of this month.
(FR) Den nye fællesskabsordning for statsstøtte til kul industrien omfatter de stenkul med lavt bitumenindhold, der udvides i Spanien og svarer til de tekniske normer, der er gældende for anvendelsen af fælles skabsordningen for kul.
Therefore, we are in favour of State aid to research into mining methods and industrial uses of coal, in competition with other primary sources of electrical energy such as oil, the price of which is falling, and nuclear power stations.
Efter vedtagelse af ændringsforslag nr. 6
We want to see — and why not? — the industry being recon
Wurtz (COM). — (FR) Jeg ser gerne, at De spørger Kommissionen om dens holdning til de ændringer, vi
Spain has recently joined the European Communities, and now, following yesterday's successful result in the referendum on my country's presence in the Atlantic Alliance, Spain will, according to the will of its people, continue to be a pillar of western defence.
Man er tilsyneladende enig fra alle sider, og man kan således stille vore spanske venner tilfreds.
We have made many compromises in order to take our place in all the European Communities, in all the European institutions.
Jeg gør vore græske og irlandske venner og kolleger opmærksom på, at deres problem, der er anderledes, vil blive behandlet i en anden forbindelse.
Now would be an opportune moment for Parliament, by adopting our amendment,
Vil han tage hensyn til de syv eller otte vedtagne ændringsforslag?
raw material, but in the final analysis, on the cost of energy itself.
Stevenson (S). — (EN) Hr. formand, er ordføreren på baggrund af den foreslåede mundtlige ændring på nuværende tidspunkt i stand til at oplyse Parlamentet om, hvorvidt han har kendskab til tekniske årsager til, at dette spanske kul ikke skulle falde ind under EF-ordningen?
Mr President, to sum up finally, the Spanish socialists believe that the Croux report is positive as a whole, but we maintain that it would be quite unfair to Spain not to adopt amendment 17, and for this reason we shall be unable, if this is not taken into proper account, to vote for the motion as a whole.
Formanden. — Da ordføreren har foreslået det således, må vi gå ud fra, at det er tilfældet.
As the report itself mentions, such a policy has led to the loss of 130 000 jobs within a decade, and has also created dramatic situations like the one we saw in Great Britain, where not long ago we all witnessed the heroic struggle by the miners.
Efter vedtagelse af kommissionsforslaget
Despite this, the report is in our opinion inadequate.
Croux (PPE), ordfører. — (NL) Vi har grundigt undersøgt dette problem med artikel 36 og tilbagevisning til udvalget, og i samråd med formanden for energi, forskning- og teknologiudvalget er jeg kom met til den afgørelse, at det ikke er ønskeligt, at Par lamentet anmoder om, at denne sag tilbagevises til energiudvalget. Jeg vil redegøre for årsagerne til den ne afgørelse.
It was mentioned by the previous speaker as well that the report persists in referring to a policy in the coal sector, and not to one that covers all solid fuels and that would therefore take account of the potentials for developing lignite and peat, which are very important for the development of our country's energy resources.
Vernimmen (S). — (NL) Hr. formand, kære kolleger, hr. Croux har i sit indlæg bestræbt sig på at skelne mellem økonomisk realitet, regional betydning og energiproblemet på lang sigt.
Mr Stavrou (PPE). — (GR) Mr President, the report by our colleague Mr Croux is certainly a detailed and in-depth study of the problems faced by the Community today in the sector of coal.
Hr. Croux har, hvilket jo er forståeligt, primært tænkt på den regionale be tydning og de sociale følger heraf.
I must also say from the beginning that I share the rapporteur's sensitivity in the matter, a sensitivity which is quite under standable in one who is close to the daytoday problems of this important sector.
Det ville jo være uacceptabelt, at der lukkes totalt i en provins såsom belgisk Limburg, der allerede har 25% arbejdsløse, især blandt unge. På den anden side beklager sig, at man har villet føre denne forhandling nu.
However, I must express certain reservations which touch upon the Community's more general energy programme, because I believe that particularly under present conditions this problem must be dealt with in a way which at all costs preserves its Community character.
Den faldende oliepris og nedvurderingen af dollaren er elementer, der også bør inddrages i denne forhandling, hvilket ikke er sket.
To be clear: it is really necessary for the Community to adopt a longterm energy programme uninfluenced by circumstantial rises or falls in the price of oil.
De fortjenester, som først og fremmest industrien kan gøre nu, bør være en anledning til nye investeringer, især i de områder, der alle rede er ramt så hårdt.
It is also essential for us to proceed with the replacement of classical energy sources by new and renewable ones, not involving primary materials.
Jeg vil imidlertid stemme for, da betænkning dog er noget bedre end det, som Kom missionen har foreslået os.
I also agree completely with the systematic effort made to reduce waste and save energy in all areas of consumption.
Denne sag er meget presserende, for den 20. marts mødes energiministrene i Rådet om denne sag.
From this standpoint, we wish to express grave reservations about the Croux report.
Den anden grund er, at energiudvalget har undersøgt dette spørgsmål grundigt og længe, og at Parlamentet netop næsten enstemmigt har bekræftet det. Jeg tror ikke, at der for energiudvalget vil være anledning til at ændre mening efter en så klar udtalelse.
However, Mr President, we must not forget that the planning and subsequent application of these principles presupposes the creation of uniform energy prod uction and consumption conditions in all twelve of the Community's Member States, and this in relation to the special problems faced by each in the energy sector.
Bloch von Blottnitz (ARC). — (DE) Vor gruppe vil, selv om det til en vis grad sker med stor beklagelse, da hr. Ulburghs ændringsforslag ikke blev vedtaget, stemme for Croux-betænkningen.
Ms Quin (S), draftsman of an opinion for the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs and Industrial Policy. — Mr President, today we are discussing the future of an industry which has been of vital import ance to many of our countries since the beginning of the industrial revolution.
For os drejer det sig primært om absolut at opretholde, støtte og frem me kul som den hjemlige energikilde, og som følge deraf tilsidesætter vi alle vore andre overvejelser og stemmer for betænkningen.
This, I believe, would be a disastrous attitude for us to adopt for many of the reasons given in the Croux report and advanced by other speakers during the debate.
Boesmans (S). — (NL) Hvorledes det end forholder sig, fremgår det af denne betænkning, at vor kulindustri trods alt har en overlevelseschance.
With this in mind, Mr President, and owing to lack of time, I will limit myself to mentioning just two characteristic facts which are unfortunately not brought out by the report we are voting on.
Griffiths (S), skriftlig. — (EN) Jeg vil stemme for Crouxbetænkningen, ikke fordi den udgør den bedst mulige ramme for en ekspanderende kulindustri i Fællesskabet, men fordi den og det ændrede kommissionsforslag er en tilbagevenden til almindelig sund fornuft sammenlignet med Kommissionens tanker.
A second characteristic factor that I would like to see stressed in this report is the observed disparity in technological development that still prevails between the Community's Member States, which results in unequal potentials for the exploitation of solid fuels. This not only has a direct impact on the production costs of the
Det første er forsy ningssikkerheden, det andet er fremme af energieffektiviteten, og det tredje er nedbringelse af miljøforureningen.
Coming from a coal-producing area where alternative employment is very limited, I know how dramatic the economic decline has been in such areas.
Hvis denne støtte opretholdes, og de kulproducerende landes regeringer såsom i Det forenede Kongerige er rede til at vedtage en tilsvarende strategi, så kan steder såsom Margam-minen i min valgkreds i Sydwales komme i gang efter at have lig get stille i mere end et årti.
I know from my own region of the Community in north-east England that there was very widespread alarm at the rumours coming from the Commission last year that state aids were going to be disallowed and support for the industry phased out.
Denne ordning vil skaffe cirka 700 arbejdspladser og give kul af høj kvalitet til langt ind i det næste århundrede.
In its conclusions the Economic Committee quite rightly took the view that demolishing state aids wholesale in that way would have had unacceptable economic and social consequences, particularly given the importance of coal in many of our regions which are already the hardest hit in terms of economic and industrial decline.
Statsstøtte og EF-støtte til miner såsom Margam er mere gavnlige investeringer end arbejdsløshedsunderstøttelse, og alene af den grund er det værd at støtte Croux-betænkningen.
Finally, I would like to say to the Commission that while we are always in favour of more Community assistance being given to coal areas to promote new industries, I firmly believe that the best and most real hope for our coal industry and for our coal-producing areas would lie in the adoption of a positive coal strategy of the kind advocated in this report, which would not only give real hope to coal-producing regions but also be of hope and economic benefit to this Community as a whole.
(Forslaget til beslutning vedtoges) (')
Mr Blumenfeld (PPE). — (DE) Mr President, I would simply like to give Commissioner Mosar the opportunity of stating his views and to put two points to him.
Det er formålet med andre betænkninger, som vil blive forelagt Parlamentet.
Imports of coal into the EEC have risen markedly over the past 10 years.
Om de generelle træk vil jeg gøre Parlamentet opmærksom på, at for slagene i det væsentlige blot er en oversigt over den eksisterende politik i medlemsstaterne. De fleste af afgørelserne er allerede truffet.
As my own opinion points out, this is particularly true of the non-coal producing Member States of the Community where coal imports went up by 131% in the period from 1975 to 1985, while in the coal-producing countries of the EEC imports went up by 69% over the same period.
Hvis det tager ti år at planlægge og bygge et kraftværk, ligger disse afgørelser allerede hinsides den tidsfrist, som er fastsat for denne betænkning.
The principle of Community prefer ence, which we are always being told is such a sacred principle, particularly in the agricultural policy, cer tainly does not seem to hold sway as far as coal is con cerned.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er be tænkning (dok. A2-223/85) af Adam for energi, forsknings- og teknologiudvalget om meddelelse fra Kommissionen til Rådet (dok.
The biggest single supplier of coal to us is, of course, the United States, but imports have risen fastest over the past 10 years from South Africa.
C2-48/85 — KOM (85) endel.) om forslag til resolution fra Rådet om nye energipolitiske målsætninger for Fællesskabet frem til 1995 og konvergensen mellem medlemsstaternes politik
Many of us, as Mrs Ewing pointed out, simply find this unacceptable, not only because of the apartheid system but also because of the near-starvation wages paid to South African coalminers.
Olieforbruget vil forblive relativt statisk, men forbruget af kul og gas vil øges, og det samme gælder ker neenergien.
Mr Kilby talked quite a bit about market realities, but there are many claims that imports into the EEC are sold for less than the cost of production.
Der er en fare ved at se på procenter.
Many allegations of dumping have been made.
Det er meget vigtigt at forstå, at den samlede importafhængighed for Fællesskabet vil stige fra ca. 40 % for øjeblikket til 50% eller deromkring i 1995.
It certainly looks as if the world market for coal is very much a marginal market where countries sell what is in excess to their home needs on the world market, often below cost.
Betænkningen fremhæver nødvendigheden af at udvikle relationerner til energileverandørlande, især OPEC, og vi må heller ikke glemme de lande, der leverer gas, ogsom vi også er afhængige af.
Because of its concern the Economic Committee is asking the Commission to carry out a full investigation into the situation with regard to costs and prices on the world market and to report its findings to the European Parliament.
Udvalget anmoder derfor indtrængende Kommissionen om at forsøge at frem me anvendelse af den europæiske regningsenhed, ECUen ved energitransaktioner.
Over the last twenty to thirty years, hardly any of the non-coal-producing European countries has taken coal from the European Community, but has imported other sources of energy.
Stråling, S02og udslip er alle store sundheds risici, og det er grunden til det første ændringsforslag, vi har stillet, og som drejer sig om miljøproblemer.
This means, however, that prices must be reduced to a competitive level, otherwise we cannot expect to have any hope of success during the coming decades.
Adam (S), ordfører. — (EN) Hr. formand, den be tænkning, jeg forelægger for Parlamentet, koncentrerer sig om Kommissionens forslag til energipolitiske målsætninger for Fællesskabet i de kommende 10 år.
Mr Mosar, Member of the Commission. — (FR) Mr President, I read Mr Croux's report with the greatest of interest.
Imidlertid er det interessant at bemærke, at i de seneste 23 år har Det internationale Energiagentur advaret os mod selvtilfredshed.
He dealt with an extremely complex and delicate subject with clarity, fairness and per tinacity and I should like to congratulate him.
Selv med dette lave prisniveau har Det internationale Energiagentur kun forudsagt et øget forbrug på ca. 1 % i indeværende år.
I should also like to thank all the speakers for the suggestions and interesting and useful things they have had to say both at the Committee on Energy, Research and Technology and in this House.
(') Ordføreren udtalte sig: — FOR ændringsforslag nr. 1-6; — IMOD ændringsforslag nr. 27 og 28.
For environmental reasons low-sulphur coal, even from apparently less profitable pits, may be very desirable, and environmental costs have to be taken into account along with all the other elements of costs in the overall economic balance sheet.
Udvalgets udtalelse anviser ændringsforsalg på tre andre hovedområder.
Committee on Energy, Research and Technology and aimed at including the idea of security of supply in our text.
Vi ønsker en mere indgående kontrol af de enkelte medlemsstaters foranstaltninger. Vi ønsker også, at der lægges større vægt på støtte, absolut i form af fællesskabsmidler, til udvidelse af ledningsnettet, til gas, elektricitet og til fjernvarme.
This addition, I think, would be likely to run counter to the other aims set out in Article 2 of our motion, with which the Commission and more than one of the speakers agreed.
Udvalget har også stillet et ændringsforslag, som ud trykker det udbredte synspunkt, at fast brændsel bør prioriteres højere end kernekraft.
The same goes for the idea of replacing coal imports from third countries with Community coal.
Jeg takker hr. Adam for hans meget omhyggelige behandling af dette emne.
Some speakers mentioned the international coal mar ket price formation machinery.
Betænkningen advarer om, at der er mange usikkerhedsmomenter på energiområdet : olieprisernes frem tid, som man næppe behøver at nævne i dag; energiefterspørgslen i udviklingslandene og de mulige om væltninger, der måtte finde sted i transportsektoren.
First of all, the European Commission is still of the opinion that coal has an extremely important part to play in the Community's energy supplies, which is why the Commission put it at the top of the document on the aims for 1995 which will be reported on in a minute.
Derfor fastholder vi, at der bør foretages en indgående revision af udviklingen hvert andet år.
Secondly, this is why the Commission came down in favour not just of maintaining but of boosting coal's share of the energy market.
Dette er endnu vigtigere i betragtning af oliemarkedets nuværende tilstand.
Lastly, the Commission has taken full account of the trends of the past 10 years, as mentioned just now, in saying that State aid should be concentrated to a greater extent on improving the competitiveness of the coal industry and on solving the social and regional problems that result from this adaptation.
Jeg har fået et meget interessant tal fra Kommission en : årligt investeres der i Fællesskabet — jeg ved ganske vist ikke, om det er De Ti's Fællesskab eller De Tolvs — cirka 60 mia ECU på energiområdet, hvoraf 2,5 mia er lån og 1,5 mia støtte. Deraf kan man se, hvilket volumen vi har med at gøre.
The Commission is willing to recommend the Council to accept the idea of the amendment on adapting coal mining to the conditions on the market in such a way as "to avoid causing serious economic and social disturbances in those regions where the employment possibilities are still inadequate".
Man må også spørge, hvilke økonomiske omgivelser man bevæger sig i, og det vil jeg gerne gøre til gen stand for mit indlæg.
The Commission is well aware of the problems that have arisen in connection with social and regional reorganization.
Ved en oliepris på 15 dollars pr. tønde ser det endnu bedre ud.
The Commission is ready to take this into account in the final wording of the decision.
Inden for Fællesskabets medlemsstater findes vidt forskellige naturlige energiressourcer. Der er forskel lige forbrugsmønstre.
Several speakers, and Mr Croux himself in particular, asked why the Commission made no explicit reference to security of supply in the proposal.
Dette nævnes meget ofte som en grund til, at vi ikke har nogen energipolitik for Fællesskabet. Jeg er ikke enig i dette synspunkt.
This is a legitimate question, of course, since this security has been and will continue to be one of the most important aims of the Community's energy strategy.
Når vi når frem til 1995, vil hver eneste medlemsstat i Fællesskasbet reelt indføre mere energi, end den gør i dag.
There is also no doubt that the Community's coal production contributes to security of supply which is, I repeat, one of the most important aims of the Community's energy policy.