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Så det er ikke et spørgsmål om henvisning til fornyet udvalgsbehandling, det er i praksis et spørgsmål om hvorvidt denne betænkning først og fremmest er ureglementeret.
From that point of view we deal with reports by an enquiry committee in exactly the same was as the reports of a normal committee. So it is a different subject.
de Goede. — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg hører Dem meddele, at der torsdag finder en afstemning sted om delegationernes sammensætning.
Mr Prout. — May I just .finish what I was going to say, Mr President?
Kunne De eventuelt udvirke, at vi gøres bekendt med disse forslag, således at vi undgår en forhandling på torsdag.
I can ask you then that any vote taken on this matter now will not prejudice any future decision taken by this House about the status of committee of enquiry. Is that quite clear?
Formanden. — Ja, hr. Patterson, men det er i realiteten det problem, hr. Prout påpegede.
President. — As we must get on with the business of the sitting I am obliged to point out that requests to amend the draft agenda are not admissible unless they reach me one hour before the sitting begins.
Så jeg må nu behandle disse udvalg i overensstemmelse med forretningsor denen, således som den er vedtaget, og ud fra dette synspunkt tror jeg ikke, at der er nogen anden mulighed end at acceptere sir Henry Plumbs forslag og stemme om, hvorvidt fru De Valeras betænkning skal henvises til fornyet udvalgsbehandling.
We must therefore treat this report as a normal report which means that the only course open is to refer it back to committee. I think that that is what Sir Henry Plumb had in mind and that is what I shall put to the House.
Formanden. — Hr. de Goede, jeg vil foreslå, at De optager kontakt med gruppeformændene, der, så vidt jeg ved, har møde om denne problematik i aften og endnu ikke er nået til· fuld enighed om det beslut ningsforslag, der skal fremsættes.
Mr D'Angelosante. — (IT) Mr President, Rule 95 of the Rules of Procedure defines the tasks of the committee of enquiry, and there can be no doubt that Miss de Valera's report exactly conforms to the terms of the mandate granted to this committee by Parliament concerning the situation of women in Europe.
Selve beslutningen vil så foreligge i morgen formiddag, således at det faktisk formelt er muligt at stille ændringsforslag til den rettidigt.
If a question were to be raised about the interpretation of the Rules, you would not be able to go ahead and take a vote on this point; you would be obliged, under Rule III (1) of these Rules to refer the question to the Committee on the Rules of Procedure and Petitions.
Vi har endnu ikke modtaget forslaget til beslutning fra gruppeformændene om delegationernes sammen sætning.
There the matter stands. In fact, earlier Sir Henry Plumb did not ask — in the terms you mentioned — for a change in the agenda.
Men jeg har foreslået at sætte fristen for at stille ændringsforslag til,i morgen kl. 12.00. Jeg tror, at det i betragtning af situationen er bedre at sætte den til kl. 17.00.
Moreover, Rule 95, in my opinion, is sufficiently explicit, and it should be inter preted in a manner totally different than that advanced by Sir Henry Plumb and his group.
Pearce. — (EN) Hr. formand, med hensyn til den afstemning, De netop foretog, sagde De, at betænkningen skulle henvises til fornyet udvalgsbehandling.
Mr Patterson. — Mr President, there is one matter which is very germane to this particular issue Mrs Maij-Weggen is quite right in one respect, namely that both the de Pasquale report and the de Valera report are on the same matter, namely a Commission text and both suggest amendments to that Commission text.
Afstemningen drejede sig om, hvilket udvalg betænkningen skulle henvises til.
Now it seems to me you cannot have a procedure like that; either one committee or the other is the committee responsible.
Det lader til at være særdeles uklart på den måde, De sætter sagen til afstemning, om vi talte om at henvise den til fornyet behandling i undersøgelsesudvalget om kvindens situation eller i udvalget om regionalpolitik og fysisk planlægning. Det var det, De skulle have sagt, da de satte den til afstemning.
If I may refer you to Article 101, I would like to ask you as President whether the Committee of Enquiry on Women's Rights asked you and obtained permission to produce an opinion on this Commission text because, if not, the report should never have appeared on our agenda in the first place.
Jeg tror, at det sir Henry Plumb mente, var, at den skulle henvises til sidst nævnte udvalg.
So it is not a question of referral back to committee, it is in practice a question of this report being out of order in the first place.
Formanden. — Overhovedet ikke hr. Pearce.
President. — Mr D'Angelosante, I do not see where the problem is.
Sir Fred Catherwood. — (EN) Hr. formand, det drejer sig om dette punkt og om et indlæg til forret ningsordenen.
President. — Yes, Mr Patterson, but that is in fact the problem indicated by Mr Prout.
Catherwood delegations formandskab for at have en fast kerne og så alt efter de pågældende emner ad hoc at sende medlemmer fra de enkelte udvalg til delegationerne.
President become a litde bit clearer on the competences of the enquiry committees and we have not sorted it out.
Men jeg må desværre meddele Dem, at to af de store grupper ikke er indforstået med dette system, således at formændene for de små grupper er i mindretal.
Mr De Goede. — (NL) Mr President, I heard you announce that a vote would be taken on Thursday on the membership of our delegations.
Med andre ord: vi går endnu frem efter det gamle system, og hvis dette gamle system skal ændres, må det i første række ske inden for de to store grupper, som der her tales om.
I suppose that this has been the subject of discussions between and within the political groups.
Hvis altså, for at sige det klart, den socialistiske og den kristeligdemokratiske gruppe er indforstået dermed — og også gruppen af kommunister og beslægtede, som også har forsvaret dette gamle system — kan man ændre det. Men gruppeformændene er sandelig også henvist til flertal, og da disse tre grupper, jeg har nævnt, og som vil bibeholde det gamle system, har et flertal her i Parlamentet, blev systemet ikke ændret.
May I point out that the Nonattached Members still have no information whatever about the proposals from the group chairmen.
Det betyder, formoder jeg, at De må drøfte sagen med Deres gruppeformand.
The next of the resolution should be available tomorrow morning so that there will be time formally to table amendments.
Formanden. — Mange tak, hr. Bangemann, jeg tror ikke, at det har nogen mening nu at tale om baggrund og motiver.
We have not yet received the motion for a resolution from the political group chairmen on the membership of the delegations.
Det må vi gøre på torsdag, hvis vi ønsker en forhandling.
I had proposed that the deadline for tabling amendments should be tomorrow midday.
Det er et spørgsmål om forretningsordenen.
Mr Pearce. — Mr President, on that vote that you just took you said the report was being sent back to committee.
Vi har faktisk forsøgt at gennemføre det, De gør Dem til talsmand for, og jeg mener, at det er rigtigt.
The vote was about which committee the report should be referred back to.
Men vi er i gruppeformændenes hænder, for så vidt angår det endelige forslag.
It seems to be highly unclear in the way you put the matter to the vote as to whether we were talking about sending it back to the Committee on Women or to the Committee on Regional Policy and Regional Planning.
Parlamentet kan så stille ændringsforslag.
That is what you should have said in putting it to the vote.
Men der er ingen anden mulighed.
I call Sir Fred Catherwood.
Enright. — (EN) Hr. formand, for klarhedens skyld ønsker jeg at finde ud af noget, som helt klart er udtryk for uvidenhed fra min side.
President. — Not at all Mr Pearce.
Jeg forstår ikke helt, hvordan en afstemning pludselig er blevet til en forhandling. Jeg ved ikke, i henhold til hvilken artikel i forretningsordenen vi gør det.
If we refer a report back to a committee it goes back to the committee it came from and that in this case is the Committee of enquiry into the situation of Women in Europe.
Afstemningen var påbegyndt.
However the proposal was not adopted.
Formanden. — Nogle havde det indtryk, at vi havde påbegyndt afstemningen, men vi havde faktisk ikke påbegyndt den endnu.
At 3 p.m., vote on the motion for a resolution by the chairmen of the political groups on the composition of the parliamentary delegations.
Det ene er, hvem der bliver udpeget til delegationerne, og det er naturligvis gruppeformændene, der skal afgøre det.
Therefore, I think that you should at least consult the committee, Mr President, before this goes forward and see if they want to make any amendments.
Det er der ingen, der sætter spørgsmålstegn ved.
The deadline for tabling amendments has been fixed at midday tomorrow.
(Munterhed) Hr. Seefeld har ordet.
I call Mr Forth.
Desuden er der spørgsmålet om denne særlige beslut ning, som forelægges Parlamentet, og jeg forstod det sådan, at Deres forgænger sagde til gruppeformændene, at vi ville blive hørt om, hvad der ville blive forelagt Parlamentet, og at Parlamentet ville træffe afgørelsen.
Mr Forth. — Mr President, could I ask you, please, at what stage we will be debating the resolution from the group chairmen on delegations.
Jeg kan virkelig ikke se, hvordan Parlamentet kan nå frem til en rigtig afgørelse, medmindre det også forhandler om den.
Presumably the House will want an opportunity to discuss this important matter and to make its views clear to the public who are much concerned about delegations.
Jeg tror derfor ikke, at denne burde presses igennem simpelt hen uden forhandling.
At what stage are you proposing we debate it?
Seefeld. — (DE) Hr. formand, De sagde for nogle få minutter siden, at fristen for at foreslå navne på medlemmer til de enkelte delegationer skal være tirsdag kl. 17.00.
Secondly, it is very important that it should not appear as something which we are trying to get through the Parliament without debate.
Jeg vil gerne på den socialistiske gruppes vegne meget indtrængende bede Dem om at udskyde denne frist noget mere.
Those of us who have had to defend the position of delegations as something useful to the Parliament in conjunction with the functions which are being performed in the Committees — I speak particularly of my own committee — feel that there is a very good case to be made.
Det betyder, at fristen først skal fastsættes til i morgen sidst på aftenen.
Therefore, I very strongly urge you, first of all to con sult the committee chairman about it in the meeting that you will shortly have with them, and, secondly, not to put it through without a debate.
Bangemann. — (DE) Hr. formand, vi har forhandlet om dette spørgsmål blandt gruppeformændene, og jeg må meddele Dem — og dermed også Parlamentet — at tre formænd for små grupper har stillet forslag om at ændre systemet og gå over til kun at udpege hver
Mr Forth. — In that case could I oppose that proposal, Mr President?
Formanden. — Hr. Seefeld, det er ikke et spørgsmål om navne, men et spørgsmål om ordlyden af beslut ningen.
President. — Sir Fred, I thank you very much for words I very much agree with, but I have to point out that Rule 106 (3) says: 'the political groups shall appoint the members of the delegations'. That means I
Navenene er aftalt mellem gruppeformændene. dene.
President. — I call Mr De Goede.
Rogers. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg ved ikke, hvorfor vi har denne diskussion nu, og hvorfor De lader sir Fred Catherwood få en bid nummer to af en gammel kage, som han selv har bagt.
Sir Fred Catherwood. — Mr President, there are two quite separate issues here.
Formanden. — Hr. van Minnen, det drejer sig i forbindelse med denne beslutning ikke om navne.
Mr Enright. — In a spirit of inquiry, Mr President, I wish to clear up what is clearly ignorance on my part.
Det drejer sig udelukkende om teksten til en beslutning forelagt af gruppeformændene.
I do not quite understand how we started taking a vote which has suddenly turned into a debate.
I denne forbindelse spiller navne ingen rolle. Derfor mine bemærkninger til hr. Seefeld.
I do not know under what Rules of Procedure we are doing that.
Ved Parlamentets sidste konstituering vedtog man igen således som jeg forstår det, at vi ville gå frem efter den gamle ordning, der fortsat var gældende.
One is who is put on the delegations and that, of course, is for the group chairman to decide.
Bangemann. — (DE) Mange tak, hr. formand, fordi De allerede har afgivet denne erklæring, men jeg vil dog gerne tilføje noget.
President. — Some people were under the impression the we had started to vote, but we did not really start it yet.
Det er bestemt ikke ved at rejse sig op ved begyndelsen af en mødeperiode som sir Fred Catherwood og forsøge atter at betræde jord, der er blevet betrådt så mange gange tidligere.
Secondly, there is the question of this particular resolution that is before the Parliament, and my under standing was that your predecessor said to the group chairmen that we would be consulted on what would be put to Parliament and that Parliament would decide.
Jeg er for det første formand for en demokratisk gruppe og for det andet for en gruppe, der arbejder.
I do not really see how Parliament can come to a proper decision unless it also discusses it.
I mere end seks uger har vi drøftet dette forslag blandr gruppeformændene, og min gruppe har i rette tid udtrykt sin mening derom.
Therefore, I do not think that this should be pushed through simply without a debate.
Nu tror jeg, at vi bør fortsætte, som De har foreslået.
President. — I call Mr Bangemann.
Vi bør modtage de udpegninger, der er foretaget af grupperne, og lade det være afslutningen.
Mr Seefeld. — (DE) Mr President, you said a few minutes ago that the deadline for submitting nominations for the various delegations would be 5 p.m. on Tuesday.
Jeg tror ikke, vi bør tage fat på denne forhandling igen.
On behalf of the Socialist Group I would urge you to fix a somewhat later deadline.
Hvis sir Fred Catherwood ønsker at ændre forretningsor denen, bør han meddele dette og henvende sig til udvalget for forretningsordenen og for andragender.
Our group will not have an opportunity to reach its final decision until tomorrow evening.
Jeg tror, situationen er klar: i morgen formiddag vil der foreligge et forslag til beslutning fra gruppeformændene.
President. — Mr Seefeld, we are concerned not with names but with the text of the motion for a resolution.
Dette forslag kan der stilles ændringsforslag til indtil i morgen kl. 17.00.
The names have been agreed by the chairmen of the political groups.
Endvidere erstattes betænkning af Provan om behand lingen af levnedsmidler — der var opført torsdag under nr. 47 — på anmodning af hr. Collins, formand for udvalget om miljø- og sundhedsanliggender og forbrugerbeskyttelse, af betænkning af sir Peter Vanneck om titandioxyd.
Mr Bangemann. — (DE) Mr President, this matter was discussed by the group chairmen and I am able to inform you, and the House as a whole, that three chairmen of small groups proposed a change in the system under which we would only appoint the Bureau of each delegation in order to have a fixed nucleus; Members would then be appointed to the delegations on an ad hoc basis from the individual committees depending on the topics of discussion.
(Hr. Forths anmodning blev imødekommet)
That, I believe, is what our colleagues wished.
Det betyder, at vi vil få en begrænset forhandling på torsdag, før vi stemmer om ændringsforslagene.
Mr Rogers. — Mr President, I do not know why we are having this discussion now and why you are allow ing Sir Fred Catherwood a second bite at a longstanding cherry that he has been putting forward.
van Minnen. — (NL) Hr. formand, De har nu netop sagt, at det drejer sig om en beslutning hvortil der kan stilles ændringsforslag, men De er ikke kommet ind på min partifælle, hr. Seefelds indvending.
The proposal that came forward to the enlarged Bureau previously was basically that Sir Fred Catherwood's committee and the members of that committee were the experts on delegations and membership of delegations.
Balfe. — (EN) Med hensyn til dagsordenen for torsdag, hr. formand: i de seneste måneder har vi haft visse vanskeligheder med tildeling af tid til uopsættelige forhandlinger, og jeg vil gerne have Deres forsikring om, at den tid, der er tildelt i denne måned vil blive anvendt på emner til uopsættelig forhandling, hvilket genspejler de menige medlemmers og visse andre medlemmers ønsker, og at den ikke vil blive anvendt som en udvidelse af tid til andre sager.
I think therefore that the House will have to continue to apply the existing system however much I may regret the fact that it prevents us from appointing gen uine experts to the delegations depending on the top ics for discussion.
Jeg tænker i særdeleshed på det telegram, som de sikkert har modtaget fra mig i løbet af week-enden, hvis De da tilbragte week-enden hjemme . . .
Now, when this Parliament was reconstituted, as I understand it, it was again decided that we would pro ceed under the old situation that pertained. All that we
Formanden. — Jeg har modtaget Deres telegram, hr. Balfe, men jeg ved ikke hvor.
Rogers are doing now is actually constituting the delegations of Parliament.
Formanden. — Deres forslag er altså at rykke forhandlingen om det nye fællesskabsinstrument frem fra torsdag til onsdag.
Mr Bangemann. — (DE) Thank you very much, Mr President, for making that statement but I wish to make a brief additional comment.
Hvis Parlamentet træffer en anden afgørelse, har det ret til det.
I have really had enough of the suggestions that I belong to some kind of Mafia !
(Anmodningen af Deleau afvistes)
(Laughter)
Fru Squarcialupi har ordet.
Now the functions of these delegations and their reporting capacity and so on are laid down in the Rules.
Det er første prioritet for den socialistiske gruppe, således som det vedtoges på gruppens møde i marts.
If the Socialist Group is unable to define its opinion in time that is its own affair, but please do not accuse other group chairmen of belonging to a Mafia!
Jeg vil håbe, at vi, selv om vi taler om menneskerettigheder og ting, der foregår uden for Europa, i det mindste nu, efter mange måneder, vil diskutere, hvad der foregår i Europa.
Now I think we ought to proceed as you have suggested. We should receive the nominations as they are put forward by the groups and let that be the end of it.
Det er, hvordan en plastikkugle ser ud...
I do not think we should open this debate again.
Formanden. — Hr. Balfe, De ved lige så godt som jeg, at der i morgen vil være en indledende drøftelse om prioriteringen med henblik på uopsættelig forhandling, og jeg håber at få at vide af Deres gruppeformand, hvilke prioriteringer, han har.
President. — I wish to announce that the report by Mrs Salisch, on behalf of the Committee on Social Affairs and Employment, on the free circulation of workers within the Community, entered as Item 41 on Thursday's agenda, has been withdrawn.
Squarcialupi. — (IT) Hr. formand, jeg er ret foruroliget over den lethed, hvormed man foretager ændringer af dagsordenen.
President. — Thank you, Mr Rogers, I think the situa tion is clear: tomorrow morning there will be a motion for a resolution by the group leaders.
Man indføjer direktivet om titandioxyd, men man giver os ikke mulighed for at stille ændringsfroslag, fordi man med henblik på sådanne ændringsforslag — selv om fristen for indgivelse udskydes en dag — har brug for en hel aktsamling, som jeg ikke har taget med mig her i dag.
Moreover, at the request of Mr Collins, chairman of the Committee on Environment, Public Health and Consumer protection, the report by Mr Provan on processing of foodstuffs scheduled as Item 47 on Thursday's agenda will be replaced by Sir Peter Vanneck's report on titanium dioxide.
Der er parlamentsmedlemmer, som i månedsvis har arbejdet i udvalget med et emne, og så sætter man dem i den situation, at de i den afsluttende fase ikke kan stille et eneste ændringsforslag.
Mr Balfe. — On the agenda for Thursday, Mr President: in recent months we have had some difficulties with the allocation of time for urgent debates and I would like your assurance, that the time allocated this month will be used for subjects of urgent debate which reflect wishes of the back-bench Members and some Members of this House and that it will not be used as an extension of time used elsewhere.
Hr. formand, jeg anmoder om en undersøgelse af, hvordan denne afgørelse er er truffet, idet den bringer mig i stor forlegenhed; og det gælder ikke blot mig, men også andre, som gerne ville have foretaget ændringer eller i det mindste deltaget i forhandlingen.
I am thinking in particular of the telegram which you will have received from me during the week-end, if you spent the week end in your home ...
Formanden. — Fru Squarcialupi, hidtil er dagsordenen ikke blevet ændret.
Mr Van Minnen. — (NL) Mr President, you have now said that amendments may be tabled to the text of this resolution but you did not reply to the objection by my colleague, Mr Seefeld.
Der er et forslag af hr. Collins om at bytte om på Provan-betænkningen og Vanneck-betænkningen.
Is it not rather unreasonable and surprising for you to place a political group in this Parliament before the fait accompli that amendments have to be tabled without the possiblity of prior discussion in the group?
Jeg fortolker Deres indlæg som en anmodning om, at vi stemmer om hr. Collins forslag.
Mr President, I ask you once again to postpone the time limit for tabling amend ments until after the group meetings.
Provan. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg er ligeglad om min betænkning behandles under denne mødeperiode eller under den næste.
President. — Mr Van Minnen, this resolution is not concerned with names.
Jeg vil derfor foreslå Dem, at den behandles uden forhandling.
The sitting is concerned exclusively with the text of the resolution submitted by the group chairmen.
Jeg har rådført mig med udvalgets formand, hr. Collins, og jeg tror ikke, han vil gøre indsigelse mod denne løsning.
The names play no part in it. That is what I pointed out to Mr Seefeld.
Vor kollega, Jacques Moreau skal på torsdag fore lægge to betænkninger om Fællesskabets politik for lånoptagelse.
Mr Balfe. — ... drawing your attention to the need for a debate on a resolution that was tabled many months ago on the subject of plastic bullets, that is of a plastic bullet fired by British soldiers at an Irish child — to be debated within this Parliament.
Rådet har anmodet om uopsættelig forhandling, og det har haft ret, for det er nu nødvendigt aldeles omgående at finde en løsning på dette problem.
This is the first priority of the Socialist Group, as decided at its March meet ing.
Jeg har sammen med hele Parlamentet konstateret, at dagsordenen for onsdag allerede var meget overlæsset, men jeg er ikke desto mindre forpligtet til at varetage det mandat, man har givet mig, og anmode Dem om at opføre Moreau-betænkningerne på dagsordenen for mødet onsdag, for at de kan blive forhandlet i nærværelse af Rådet.
I would hope that, while we are talking about human rights and things which are going on outside Europe, that we will discuss at least now, after many months, what is going on inside Europe.
Det var, hr. formand, hvad jeg ville sige.
That is what
Maij-Weggen. — (NL) Hr. formand, jeg mener, at fru Squarcialupis problem er meget velbegrundet.
Mrs Squarcialupi. — (IT) Mr President, I am rather disconcerted by the ease with which changes have been made in the agenda.
Jeg er heller ikke imod at behandle sir Peter Vannecks betænkning torsdag, men jeg mener nok, at vi så må have lejlighed til at stille ændringsforslag onsdag.
Mr Deleau. — (FR) Mr President, I wish to make a point about Thursday's agenda on behalf of the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs.