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Om: Fællesskabets undladelse af at deltage i afstemning i FN
Subject: Community abstention in UN vote
I alle tilfælde kan jeg ikke af den afstemningsliste, som jeg nøje har gennemset, konstatere, at der i prin cipspørgsmål har været indbyrdes forskellige holdninger fra medlemsstaternes side.
Mr Wurtz (COM). — (FR) May I, by way of supplementary question, ask the President how it is that when other countries are involved, the Commission's position on human rights is public, whereas here it manifestly is not, since we do not know what has been said.
Det er baggrunden for at undlade at afgive stemme, altså ikke et udtryk for modstand mod målene, men at man ikke er enig i den udformning, teksten i det dokument, som sættes under afstemning, har fået.
Secondly, might I know, other than the reports obtained by the Council, what are the precise measures taken, so that from one question time to the next we do not always get the same reply, but achieve con crete results?
Kan udenrigsministrene i politisk samarbejde oplyse, hvorfor de afholdt sig fra at stemme om de resolutioner, som i slutningen af november 1984 vedtoges i det politiske udvalg i FN med 111 stemmer, og som vedrørte freds- og nedrustningsspørgsmål (forbud mod nye masseødelæggelsesvåben, konkurrencen med hensyn til krigsskibe, internationalt samarbejde og international nedrustning, deltagelse i en konference om ned rustning og hermed forbundne emner)?
Can the Foreign Ministers meeting in political cooperation state why they abstained from voting on resolutions adopted by the UN's First Political Committee at the end of November 1984 by 111 votes in favour on matters concerning peace and disarmament (banning of new weapons of mass destruction, the arms race at sea, international cooperation and disarmament, participation in a conference on disarmament and other related top ics)?
Ulburghs (NI). — (NL) Kan ministrene meddele, om de også tager hensyn til standpunkterne hos fredsbevægelserne, der kan mobilisere store folkemasser, og som f.eks. i mit land, i Belgien, ifølge opinionsmålinger har støtte fra 70% af befolkningen?
Mr Andreotti. — (IT) The contacts which have been made inevitably develop gradually.
Andreotti. — (IT) Egentlig drejer det sig om den ind stilling, der præger stemmeafgivningen om FN-doku-menter.
They consist in the proposal on our part for an extremely precise start, that is the full return to normality as well as an objective recognition of the progress made in the right direction.
Jeg har allerede sagt, at der ikke selv med et så stort antal dokumenter, mere end firs om året, hvoraf mere end 60 % vedtages enstemmigt, er tale om afvigende stemmeafgivning.
In the spheres in which there is some delay, which meanwhile the Turkish authorities do not fore see as being of long duration, there are still special situations connected with terrorist activities due to very complex circumstances specific to this country which is not very easily managed or completely homogeneous in its structure.
Andreotti, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (IT) De Ti fastlægger deres stilling til afstemninger om resolutionsforslag i FNs generalforsamling på grundlag af en vurdering ikke kun af de mål, som indgår i de forelagte tekster, men også af den valgte holdning til problemet og de midler, der foreslås anvendt for at nå målene.
Mr Andreotti, President-in-Office of the Foreign Ministers. — (IT) The Ten decide their position regarding voting on motions for resolutions presented at the General Assembly of the United Nations Organization on the basis of an assessment not only of the objectives which these texts propose but also of the approach adopted and the means indicated for the attainment of such objectives.
Der er ingen tvivl om, at De Ti inden for FNs politiske udvalg stedse har handlet til fordel for vedtagelse af konstruktive og realistiske foranstaltninger med henblik på at grundfæste freden og frem me ligelige og kontrollable aftaler om nedrustning.
There is no doubt that in the First Political Committee of the General Assembly the Ten have constantly exerted themselves in favour of the adoption of constructive and realistic measures intended for the consolidation of peace and the promotion of agreements on disarmament which would be fair and verifiable.
Undladelse af at stemme eller negativ stemmeafgivning fra De Ti's side viser simpelt hen, at De Ti ikke har fundet de pågældende resolutionsforslag afbalancerede og i stand til seriøst at medvirke til gennemførelsen af de angivne mål.
The abstention or the negative vote of the Ten on certain motions for resolutions indicates simply that the Ten did not think these texts balanced and capable of making a serious contribution to the realization of the objectives proposed.
Hvis den ærede spørger vil gennemblade afstemningsresultaterne, vil han se, at der er store udsving, men også at der i principspørgsmål ingen afvigelser er fra den korrekte stilling, som De Ti indtager.
If the Honourable Member who has raised the question would like to glance at the outcome of the voting he will see that there is a considerable diversity, but he will also see that on the questions of principle there has never been any change from the correct positions on the part of the Ten.
Alle som ønsker fred, som slutter sig sammen for det te og forsøger at vinde større opmærksomhed om denne sag, gør sig fortjent til al vor respekt, navnlig når de handler med fredelige midler, for nogle gange forekommer også det modsatte.
Mr Andreotti. — (IT) This argument has not been put before the Council in its corporate capacity and I therefore have no obsen'ations to make.
Men det er en sag, som burde drøftes for sin egen skyld og ikke i en sidebemærkning som nu.
I may say, in addition to what I said just now, that after the pre vious meeting in which this argument was discussed we ourselves recommended that the Turkish Members of Parliament should be permitted to make contact in the various capitals with their colleagues in the national parliaments. This was so as to permit them to
Adamou (COM). — (GR) Jeg takker hr. Andreotti, til trods for at hans svar ikke tilfredsstillede mig.
Mr Adamou (COM). — (GR) I thank MrAndreotti, even though his answer did not satisfy me.
Fredsog nedrustningsspørgsmålet er et af de mest alvorlige den moderne internationale sammenhæng.
The subjects of peace and disarmament are among the most important that affect contemporary international life.
Jeg vil gerne især spørge ham, hvorvidt hans forbehold kan forenes med, hvad hr. Craxi sagde for lidt siden for det er klart, at i dette tilfælde eksisterer der en uoverensstemmelse mellem synspunkterne, og jeg mener, at formanden må kunne svare mig på, om disse for behold er berettiget i sådanne spørgsmål?
I would like above all to ask him whether his resen'ations are consistent with what was said a little while ago by Mr Craxi. Because it is obvious that in that case there is a difference of opinion and I think the President-in-Office could answer me whether such resen'ations are justified in connection with matters of this kind?
Andreotti. — (IT) Jeg modsiger ikke mig selv, når jeg siger, at Europa-Parlamentet kan invitere, hvem det finder passende at invitere, og modtage hvem det fin der passende at modtage.
Mr Andreotti. — (IT) I should like to confirm the dis tinction which exists between the objectives of a resolution and the text of the document itself.
har sin fuldstændige, totale selvstændighed og suverænitet?
not the case that each individual foreign minister who attends the UN General Assembly retains his indepen dence and sovereignty in full.
Hvis en udenrigsminister eller nogle delegerede fra et bestemt land på FNs generalforsamling f.eks. ønsker at støtte et nedrustningsforslag, så er det jo ikke nogen undskyldning for dem, at andre EF-lande ikke ønsker at støtte dette nedrustningsforslag. Har hvert enkelt land ikke sin fulde suverænitet i FN?
If a foreign minister or any delegates from a particular country at the UN General Assembly, for example, wish to support an arms reduction proposal, there is no excuse for them to say that other Community countries do not wish to support that arms reductions proposal.
Det forholder sig vel ikke sådan, at man lægger pres på hinanden i FN, for at man skal indtage en ens holdning?
Surely it is not the case that countries put pressure on one another in the UN to adopt a uniform line?
Man kan vel godt støtte et nedrustningsforslag, hvis man går ind for det.
It is quite possible to support an arms reduction proposal if one agrees with it.
Det er altså ikke nogen undskyldning for Danmark ikke at støtte et nedrustningsforslag, fordi f.eks. andre EF-lande ikke støtter dette nedrustningsforslag.
There is therefore no excuse for Denmark not to support an arms reduction proposal because, for example, other Community countries do not support it.
Det vil jeg godt have et svar på.
I should like to have an answer to this question.
Har man som national delegation sin selvstændighed på en generalforsamling?
Do the representatives of a country at the UN General Assembly enjoy independence as a national delegation?
Også inden for den arabiske verden har man fundet det nødvendigt at have differentierede synspunkter og ikke fremme en ensartet indstilling.
Mr Andreotti. — (IT) I can reply very simply by say ing: not only has each State the sovereign power to decide how to vote at UNO, but this power is very widely used.
Jeg kan sige, at vi altid har bevæget os i denne ret ning, og vi finder det eksempelvis positivt, at der i øjeblikket er en israelsk minister på besøg i Cairo.
And this is the significance of the abstentions, that they are not intended to indicate opposition to the objectives, but simply that there is no agreement as concern the drafting of the document put to the vote.
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 117 af Ephremidis (H659/84):
President. — Question No 117, by Mr Ephremidis (H-659/84):
Om: Den israelske præsidents besøg i Europa-Parlamentet
Subject: Visit of the President of Israel to the European Parliament
Alt dette må naturligvis ikke opfattes som et partisk synspunkt, men som repræsenterende sider af de drøftelser af generel karakter, som vi i sidste instans bør føre med hver enkelt af disse stater.
Mr Ulburghs (NI). — (NL) Could the Ministers state whether they also took account of the positions of the peace movements that are able to mobilize the masses and, according to opinion polls, have the support of 70% of the population of my country Belgium?
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 118 af Hammerich (H-
Mr Andreotti. — (IT) What is really under discussion here is voting attitudes as regards UNO documents.
Er udenrigsministrene i politisk samarbejde enige i, at højtidelige manifestationer som den israelske præsidents besøg og tale i Europa-Parlamentet under mødeperioden i februar 1985 ikke bidrager til at få Israel, der fortsat holder arabiske territorier besat, til at opgive sin aggressive og ekspansionistiske politik, men tværtimod er ensbetydende med støtte og opmuntring til at videreføre denne politik og lægger hindringer i vejen for de internationale forsøg på at finde en retfærdig og fredelig løsning på problemerne i Mellemøsten?
Do the Foreign Ministers meeting in political cooperation agree that ceremonial occasions such as the visit and address by the President of Israel to the European Parliament during the partsession in February 1985 have no dissuasive effect on the aggressive and expansionist policy of Israel, which is continuing its military occupation of Arab territories, but instead consolidate and recompense the Israeli position and put obstacles in the way of international endeavours to find a just and peaceful solution to the Middle East con flict?
Hvordan vurderes chancen for at opnå et fast sekretariat i nærmeste fremtid, eventuelt med sæde i København?
I do not feel able therefore within a brief period for questions to express a comprehensive view, which is extremely difficult to formulate.
Andreotti, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (IT) Spørgsmålet om oprettelse af et permanent sekretariat har ikke været genstand for drøfelse inden for det europæiske politiske samarbejdes rammer.
Mr Andreotti, President-in-Office of the Foreign Ministers. — (IT) The Council, like its Presidency, feels that it should not comment on this subject, since the European Parliament, when it thinks it right to send an invitation and receive a guest, is exercising a power of its own which we must absolutely respect.
Muligheden for et sådant sekretariat nævnes i Doogekomiteens rapport og vil blive drøftet af formandskabet i løbet af dets funktions periode.
Hence I think it would be wrong on my part to comment on a decision taken in due form by this Parliament.
Andreotti, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (IT) Hverken Rådet eller dets formandskab ønsker at kommentere denne sag, fordi Europa-Parlamentet udøver sin myndighed, hver gang det finder det rig tigt at udsende en invitation eller modtage en gæst, og det er en myndighed, vi bestemt bør respektere.
Certainly all those who love peace, who organize themselves for it and seek to achieve for this cause a greater consensus cannot merit anything other than all our respect, all the more so in cases in which they act by peaceful means, since sometimes the opposite occurs.
Jeg mener derfor, at det ville være forkert af mig at kom mentere en afgørelse, der er blevet truffet af Parlamentet i overensstemmelse med reglerne.
But it is a subject which I think perhaps it would be better to examine in its own right rather than as incidentally as this.
Jeg vil godt spørge om følgende : Har en sådan åbning af EPS, så andre euro pæiske lande kan deltage, været drøftet i EPS?
Mrs Hammerich (ARC). — (DA) I should like to ask the President-in-Office of the Council whether it is
Ephremidis (COM). — (GR) Jeg er nødt til at stille et tillægsspørgsmål, for meningen med mit spørgsmål var ikke på nogen måde, at Rådet skulle blande sig i Parlamentets kompetence. Det har sin egen kompetence og udøver, den under eget ansvar.
Mr Ephremidis (COM). — (GR) I am compelled to put a supplementary question because in no way was the sense of my question that Council should intervene in Parliament's competences.
Som følge heraf angår mit spørgsmål hovedsagelig
The sense of my question is whether the Foreign Ministers meeting within the scope of Political Cooperation
Andreotti mer og i deres bilaterale forbindelser, idet de under­streger de meget stærke håb, som regeringerne og offentligheden har om en snarlig politisk løsning på krisen i Afghanistan på grundlag af de gentagne reso­lutioner i FN.
I should like to ask the following: has an opening up of EPC so that other European countries can participate been dis cussed by the foreign ministers meeting in EPC?
Jeg noterer mig, at det nu bliver bragt på bane for at skabe et psykologisk grundlag, der tillader os at fort­sætte fremad.
I note that it is being brought forward now so as to create a psychological climate in which pro gress may be made.
Vi må også tænke på den slags tanker, hvis vi ad denne vej kan fjerne forskellige, temmelig markante vanskeligheder på vejen mod unionen.
We shall have to take up other ideas of this kind if they will serve to remove any more or less serious difficulties on the road to the Union.
Tzounis (PPE). — (GR) Jeg vil gerne takke forman­den for rådet af udenrigsministre i politisk samarbej­de for det svar, han var så venlig at give mig.
I may say that we have always moved in that direction and for example we think that the fact that at the present time an Israeli minister is visiting Cairo is a positive factor.
Møller (ED). — Jeg vil gerne spørge formanden for Rådet, om det ikke burde være i København, og om ikke netop fru Hammerich og hendes kammeraters indstilling viser, at det er nødvendigt og påtrængende at lægge et sådant sekretariat netop i København, således at Danmerk måske kunne få lidt mere at vide om, hvad der foregår i De europæiske Fællesska­ber?
Naturally all this must not be seen from a biased point of view but must represent so many pages of a discussion of a general nature which in the end all these countries must hold.
Andreotti. — (IT) Jeg tror, at før man afgør, hvor et sådant sekretariat bør placeres, må man afvente, om man beslutter sig til at oprette et sådant nyt sekreta­riat.
Mr Andreotti. — (IT) I think that before deciding where a newtype secretariat ought possibly to go, we should see whether it will be decided to have a newtype secretariat.
Jeg forstår udmærket spørgernes politiske inter­esse, som er yderst prisværdig.
I understand well from your point of view the political interest, which is considerable.
Men det er alt for tid­ligt at bringe sagen på bane.
President. — Question No 118, by Mrs Hammerich (H-731/84):
Spørgsmål nr. 119 af Tzounis (H­
Question No 119, by Mr Tzounis (H-
Om: De forenede Nationers rapport om Afghanistan
Subject: Secretariat in Copenhagen
I denne rapport omtales blandt andre meget alvorlige anklager også »de overlagte politiske mord«.
Subject: United Nations report on Afghanistan
Er udenrigsministrene enige i, at denne rapport udgør en for­pligtelse for dem til at iværksætte de nødvendige aktioner, så at de handlinger, om hvilke der er rejst anklager, fordømmes og det heroiske afghanske folk ydes enhver mulig støtte?
What are the chances of setting up a permanent secretariat in the near future, possibly with its seat in Copenhagen?
Andreotti. — (IT) Det eneste, vi kan gøre i håb om, at det må have en vis virkning, er at give en stadig større støtte til De forenede Nationer og generalsekre­tariatets initiativer.
A recent report on the situation in Afghanistan drawn up by the United Nations Commission on Human Rights contains harrowing details about how the people of this country are being treated by the foreign occupation forces and their local collaborators.
Angående hjælpen har både Fæl­lesskabet og de enkelte stater ydet bistand til de afghanske flygtninge, som bor i lejre.
Among the serious allegations made in the report, reference is made to the deliberate policy of massacre.
Andreotti, formand for udenrigsministrene. — (IT) De Ti følger med stor bekymring udviklingen i Afghani­stan, hvor der til stadighed forekommer alvorlige overtrædelser af menneskerettighederne og stigende lidelse hos et folk, der ikke ønsker andet end at få lov til frit at bestemme over sin egen fremtid.
Mr Andreotti, President-in-Office of the Foreign Ministers. — (IT) The question of the setting up of a per manent secretariat has not been the subject of discussion within the framework of European political cooperation.
Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Jeg vil gerne stille et meget kort tillægsspørgsmål til rådsformanden i forbindelse med det, som hr. Tzounis nævnte, fordi der ikke blev givet noget konkret svar.
The possibility of a secretariat of that nature is men tioned in the report of the Dooge Committee and will be examined by the Presidency during its term of
Har udenrigsministrene i politisk samarbejde hørt anklager eller fået oplysninger om, at der er anvendt kemiske våben i Afghanistan af russerne? For ved manglende svar på dette spørgsmål antydes det, at hr. Andreotti på en måde er enig i hr. Tzounis' ankla­ge.
Do the Foreign Ministers agree that this report places them under an obligation to take all neces sary measures to condemn the alleged acts and provide all possible aid to the heroic people of Afghanistan?
(') Se bilag af 17.4.1985.
Debates of the European Parliament
A2-2/85) af Banotti for udvalget om sociale anliggender og beskæftigelse over udkast fra Kommissionen til Rådet (KOM)84) 710 endel. -dok.
A 2-2/85) by Mrs Banotti, drawn up on behalf of the Committee on Social Affairs and Employ ment, on the proposal from the Commission to the Council (COM(84) 710 final - Doc.
2-1377/84) til henstillling om social sikring for u-landsfrivillige. villige.
2-1377/84) for a draft recommendation on social security for volunteer development workers.
Pèry (S), skriftlig. — (FR) Jeg stemmer for betænk ningen, idet jeg fuldt ud støtter erhvert fremskridt inden for den sociale sikring af u-landsfrivillige.
Mr Tzounis (PPE). — (GR) I would like to thank the Chairman of the Council of Foreign Ministers meeting within the scope of Political Cooperation for the answer he kindly gave me.
Efter afstemningen om forslag til henstilling
After the vote on the draft recommendation
Banotti (PPE), ordfører. — (EN) Her vil jeg gerne i oversstemmelse med artikel 36 i forretningsordenen spørge kommissæren, om han accepterer de af Parlamentet hidtil vedtagne ændringsforslag.
Mrs Banotti (PPE), rapporteur. — I should now like to ask the Commissioner, under Rule 36, whether he accepts the amendments as adopted by Parliament so far.
Imidlertid ønsker jeg at imødegå en række forbehold, der enten er kommet til udtryk i betænkningen eller i en del kollegers indlæg med hensyn til de forslag, der fremsattes for Det europæiske Råd i Fontainebleau vedrørende udsendelse af frivillige til udviklingslandene. dene.
I would also like to ask him whether in his opinion the efforts made by the Ten on behalf of the people of Afghanistan and to solve the problem in that country are sufficient, and whether they are considering the possibility, apart from their efforts up to now, of undertaking some more general diplomatic and political initiative to find a solution to the problem.
Vi har hørt forskellige former for kritik. Ord som militarisering og bureaukratisering er nævnt; man har taget på veje imod eksporten af vor arbejdsløshed og den manglende erhvervsuddannelse af de unge frivillige. lige.
Also, whether they are considering sending a fact-finding committee to Afghanistan to gather information about the true situation, and finally, whether they are think ing of sending humanitarian aid to the people of Afghanistan, who are suffering acts of war under the Soviets, perhaps in the form of medical aid in view of our recent information that chemical warfare is being practised.
Clinton Davis, medlem af Kommissionen. — (EN) Kommissær Sutherland har bedt mig sige, at Kom missionen er enig i alle ændringsforslag undtagen nr. 8, idet Kommissionen, som kommissæren sagde un der drøftelsen i formiddags, mener, at de ikke er ret ligt muligt at foreslå et direktiv på dette område, eftersom de u-landsfrivilliges virksomhed finder sted uden for Fællesskabets territorium.
Mr Clinton Davis, Member of the Commission. — I have been asked by Commissioner Sutherland to say that the Commission agrees with each of the amend ments save Amendment No 8, where the Commissioner said in debate this morning, 'the Commission considers that it is not legally possible to propose a directive in this field as the activities of the volunteer workers take place outside the territory of the Community.' munity.'
Banotti (PPE), ordfører. — (EN) Så anbefaler jeg, fru formand, at vi nu går videre med afstemningen.
Mr Andreotti. — (IT) The only thing we can do, hoping that it will have some effect, is to give ever stron-
Intet berettiger til sådanne udtalelser.
Debates of the European Parliament
Det fransk-tyske forslag er udarbejdet i fuld overensstemmelse med de ikkestatslige organisationer.
Mrs Banotti (PPE), rapporteur. — In that case, Madam President, I recommend that we proceed now with the vote.
Erhvervsuddannelse af de unge frivillige er planlagt, og de ikkestatslige organisationer deltager selvfølgelig heri, idet teknisk, sproglig og menneskelig kompetence er helt uundværlig.
The terms militarization and bureaucratization have been pronounced; the export of our unemployment and the non-training of volunteer workers have been denounced.
Kuipers (ARC), skriftlig. — (NL) Jeg vil stemme for Banotti-betænkningen, fordi den indholdsmæssigt er en god betænkning.
Mr Kuijpers (ARC), in writing. — (NL) I shall vote for the Banotti report because it is in essence a good report.
I denne forbindelse vil jeg endnu en gang fremdrage de to vigtigste aspekter.
I should like to emphasize the two most important aspects once again.
Vi må ikke blive uenige om spørgsmål om trosbekendelse, der kun kan skade udviklingslandenes interesser.
Let us not become divided by quibbles which do nothing to further the interests of Third World countries.
De unge europæere forstår udviklingslandenes nødsituation.
Young Europeans have become sensitive to the difficulties of the developing countries.