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Jeg har alle rede tidligere sagt, at siden 1974 har Rådet foreslået hvert af statshandelslandene at afslutte en handelsaftale.
That includes the Soviet Union which, I would remind the House, was one of the countries to which the Community sent its proposals in 1974, declaring that it was prepared to enter negotiations with a view to the conclusion of bilateral agreements, on trade among other matters, with each of the East European countries.
Dette tilbud blev ignoreret, selv om Comecon allerede i september 1974 fremsatte et modforslag.
As yet, the Soviet Government has not responded to this offer.
Rådet kender intet til, at de schweiziske myndigheder har indført en ny afgift. Derimod kan Rådet give oplysninger om den afgift, der blev indført af Schweiz med virkning fra 1. januar i år.
With regard to relations between the Community and Comecon, this topic received full coverage when Par liament debated the Bettiza report on 23 and 24 October 1985.
Welsh (ED). - (EN) Vil rådsformanden bekræfte, at hvis forbindelser med Comecon skal fremmes, skal det være på grundlag af en udtrykkelig anerkendelse, specielt fra Sovjetunionens side, af Fællesskabets autonome status og ganske særligt Kommissionens beføjelse til at forhandle på alle medlemsstaters vegne om handelsforhold i overensstemmelse med artikel 112 i Rom-traktaten?
Mr Habsburg (PPE). — (FR) Mr President-in-Office of the Council, I should like to ask you whether your very clear answer to Mr Seligman implies the Council's recognition of the principle which we supported in the Bettiza report, the principle of saying yes to bilateral relations, but certainly not to multilateral relations with Comecon, which is not comparable either legally or economically with our Community, so that there can be no direct relations between the two.
Anastassopoulos (PPE). — (GR) Jeg vil gerne spørge rådsformanden, hvordan det kan være muligt, at Rådet ikke har kendskab til de nye afgifter, som Schweiz besluttede at indføre den 12. september?
This brings me to the question tabled by Mr Fanton, which refers to a matter on which I stated the Council's current position in reply to a series of questions during the House's debate on 23 and 24 October on the report to which I have just referred.
Jeg spørger mig selv: Hvor dan kan det være muligt, at Rådet ikke har kendskab til indførelsen af denne nye afgift?
I can only refer the Honourable Member to those recent state ments, to which I have nothing to add for the present.
Hvordan kan det være muligt, at Rådet i syv år har accepteret, at der med Schweiz føres forhandlinger som ikke udmunder i noget resultat, og at man ikke har foretaget sig noget, hverken anmodet Kommissionen om en detaljeret redegørelse eller i det mindste givet den mandat til at indlede forhandlinger eller fremsætte forslag til modforanstaltninger?
We are keen to have direct relations with the Soviet Union and we are also prepared, as the Com munity, for there to be direct relations between the European Community and Comecon. But, of course, we do not want such relations between the Com munity and Comecon to be an obstacle to the establishment of direct relations between the Community and one or other member state of Comecon.
Hindley (S). — (EN) Er rådsformanden enig med mig i, at der er latente risici i den kurs, fællesmarkedet har fulgt ved at indgå bilaterale aftaler med enkelte Com-econ-lande, eftersom sådanne bilaterale aftaler kunne misfortolkes af Sovjetunionen som et forsøg på at vriste nogle af de andre Comecon-lande fri af Sovjetunionen?
However, does he agree that something quite fresh has occurred with the arrival of Mr Gorbachev on the scene? Of course, while we cannot approve of the agitation in various countries by the Soviets, nor can we approve of the effort to divide us from America, nevertheless to have an official channel, a diplomatic channel, an avenue for discussions with Russia must be a good thing for Europe and a good thing for peace.
Er han ikke også enig i, at risikoen for, at en sådan misforståelse opstår, er blevet støne, og ikke uden grund, fordi det netop er hensigten hos højrefløjen her i Parlamentet?
Therefore, I feel that his vague statement that he wel comes better relations is not sufficient.
Goebbels. — (GR) Det ærede medlem har lige bevist, at Rådet i virkeligheden ikke er alvidende.
Mr Alavanos (COM). — (GR) I agree with the question by my colleague Mr Seligman, but disagree with the view put forward by the President-in-Office of the Council of Ministers, that there has been no reaction on the part of the Soviet Union to the Community's offers.
Under alle omstændigheder kender Rådets tjenestegrene intet til den nye afgift, og selv Kommissionen synes ikke at være klar over disse sidste nyheder, som det ærede
I would like to remind you of Mr Gorbachev's speech to the French National Assembly, in which he proposed a series of fields for common action between his country and both Comecon and the EEC.
Jeg kan sige, at hvis Schweiz virkelig skulle beslutte sig til at indføre denne tillægsafgift, der vil ramme visse fremmede køretøjer, må den helvetiske for­bundsrepublik være klar over, at den fremkalder gen­gældelsesforanstaltninger fra andre europæiske med­lemsstater. Personlig tror jeg ikke, at en sådan optrap­ning er i nogens interesse.
I would therefore like to ask: To what extent is the Council of Ministers disposed to facilitate contact with the Soviet Union and Comecon as a whole, by not imposing prior conditions that impede such contacts, for example the familiar condition that while the Socialist countries may generally maintain commercial and other contacts with the EEC, the EEC does not recognize the possibility of commercial contacts through Comecon?
Formanden. — Må jeg efter dette svar opfordre råds­formanden til, hvis han modtager yderligere oplys­ninger, at give hr. Anastassopoulos et skriftligt svar, så han kan være undenettet om den aktuelle situa­tion?
I would like to ask him not so much about his own views on the matter, but to what extent Council would be disposed to adopt a more flexible strategy to facilitate this cooperation.
Goebbels. — (FR) Jeg er naturligvis til Parlamentets disposition og skal forsøge at få mere at vide om den­ne nye afgift; jeg skal afgive et skriftligt tillægssvar.
Mr Goebbels. — (FR) I have to admit that I am not sure that I understand the concern expressed by the Honourable Member.
Formanden. — Da spørgeren ikke er til stede, vil spørgsmål nr. 4 blive besvaret skriftligt (')■
It seems clear to me that the European Community should have direct relations with the Comecon countries.
I øvrigt vil jeg gerne understrege, at forslaget til bud­get for 1986 stadig forhandles, at det — desvæne, tør jeg måske sige — endnu ikke er vedtaget.
But it seems equally clear that it should have the right to engage in direct relations with any individual member country of Come con.
Spørgsmål nr. 5 af Ephremidis (H­570/85) :
President. — Question No 3, by Mr Anastassopoulos (H-529/85):
Det er en kendsgerning, at finansieringen af regeringens femårs udviklingsprogram er indbefattet i » IMP­pakken «.
Mr Goebbels. — (FR) It seems to me that the European Community has shown great flexibility towards the Comecon countries in general and the Soviet Union in particular.
Rådet spørges derfor, hvorfor der i det foreløbige budgetforslag for 1986 på posten vedrørende det græske femårsprogram er indsat en tankestreg, altså ingen finansiering?
It is no secret that the negotiations were held back by the slow-down in the process of détente, for which the invasion of Afghanistan and the proclamation of martial law in Poland were largely responsible.
Welsh (ED). — (EN) Vil rådsformanden ikke tænke på, at det måske ville væne noget nemmere at over­bevise kollegerne i Rådet om, at de bør fremme disse foranstaltninger til fordel for Grækenland, hvis Pa­sok­regeringen viste lidt støne vilje til at indfri de forpligtelser, den påtog sig, da den tiltrådte Fællesska­bet, særlig ved at åbne grænserne og undlade at dis­kriminere mod Fællesskabets handel, justere sit moms­beskatningssystem og undlade at foretage sine valutabevægelser isoleret fra os andre?
What action does the Commission intend to take to prevent a new Swiss toll for foreign goodsvehicles from prompting retaliatory fiscal measures that could seriously disrupt international goods traffic and to ensure that the principle of reciprocal exemption from duties and tolls in this . area is complied with?
Goebbels, formand for Rådet. — (FR) Da der ikke foreligger et passende retsgrundlag, er der ikke afsat konkrete bevillinger i budgetforslaget til det græske femårsprogram.
By way of conclusion, I should like to refer you to the comments made by Mr Commissioner De Clercq a few weeks ago on the Bettiza report.
Goebbels. — (FR) Jeg noterer mig disse bemærknin­ger.
Mr Goebbels^ President-in-Office of the Council. — (FR) The Honourable Member's question is unfortunately not very clear.
Jeg understreger, at det ikke var et spørgsmål, der havde relation til det originale spørgsmål.
He refers, and I quote, to 'a new Swiss toll for foreign goods-vehicles'.
Hvorfor, hr. rådsformand, forveksles femårsprogrammet med de integrerede middelhavs­programmer, to sager der er temmelig uafhængige af hinanden?
The Council has no knowledge of a new toll introduced by the Swiss authorities.
Endelig, som i tilfældet med Spanien og Portugal — og det er blevet fordømt af de fleste par­lamentsmedlemmer — overtræder Rådet og Kom­missionen på den måde deres forpligtelser?
However, the Council could supply you with information on the toll introduced by Switzerland with effect from 1st January this year.
Ephremidis (COM). — (GR) Jeg finder rådsforman­dens svar mærkeligt, for han bør med sin særlige viden om budgetspørgsmål vide — og forsamlingen bør også huske — at Parlamentet sidste år, da vi for­handlede om budgettet, vedtog 60 mio ECU til det græske femårsprogram, som den græske regering hav­de fremlagt.
Mr Welsh (ED). — Would the President-in-Office confirm that if relations with Comecon are to proceed, it must be on the basis of an explicit acknowledgement by the Soviet Union, in particular, of the autonomous status of the Community and, in particular, the Com mission's authority to negotiate on behalf of all the Member States in trade matters under Article 112 of the Treaty of Rome?
Hvad er der sket i mellemtiden?
Mr Goebbels. ward : yes.
Goebbels. — (FR) Jeg mener allerede at have sagt, at de integrerede middelhavsprogrammer ikke er Fæl­
Mr Hindley (S). — Would the President-in-Office agree with me that there are inherent dangers in the line taken by the common market of entering into bilateral agreements with individual Comecon countries in the sense that these bilateral agreements could
Goebbels lesskabets svar på den græske femårsplans pro grammer.
I am therefore in no position to give you an answer on this new toll.
Ikke desto mindre mener Kommissionen, at det må være muligt takket være de integrerede middelhavsprogrammer at reagere på de krav, der finder udtryk i det græske memorandum.
I can say to you that if Switzerland did indeed decide to introduce this additional toll on certain foreign vehicles, the Swiss Confederation should be aware that it will attract retaliatory measures from other European Member States.
Det er under sådanne omstændigheder reglen, at Kommissionen ikke tager fat på disse programmer i den græske femårsplan separat, så meget mindre som de integrerede middelhavsprogrammer netop er lanceret. ceret.
know — and I am sure the House remembers — that when we were debating the budget last year, Parliament, despite the budgetary pressures it was under at the time, approved 60 million ECU for the fiveyear programme submitted by the Greek Government.
Kommissionen har endvidere givet udtryk for den opfattelse, at det med henblik på en varig genopretning af Grækenlands betalingsbalance og landets til bagevenden til fuld deltagelse i samhandelen inden for Fællesskabet er berettiget at yde gensidig bistand som omhandlet i artikel 108, stk. 2, i EØF-traktaten.
Quite simply, what has happened is that Greece's economic situation has deteriorated a great deal, and that is an added reason why this year's line for the Greek fiveyear programme should not only not contain a dash, not only contain 60 million ECU, but indeed something more than that.
Hvad endelig angår de beskyttelsesforanstaltninger, den græske regering har truffet, både med hensyn til samhandelen og kapitalbevægelserne, er Kommissionen sammen med den græske regering i færd med at foretage en grundig undersøgelse af disse foran staltninger, og den regner med at afslutte undersøgelsen inden den 15. november 1985.
President. — In view of that reply, could I request the President-in-Office, should he get further information, to give a reply to Mr Anastassopoulos in writing so that he is informed of the current situation?
Rådet vil på sin side mødes den 18. november og vil få forelagt alle de initiativer, Kommissionen i mel lemtiden har taget.
Mr Goebbels. — (FR) I do not accept that I have employed a fallacious argument.
Desuden at der ikke eksisterer nogen forordning herom, og at der, efter hvad jeg forstår, heller ikke er nogen hensigter i den retning.
Mr Goebbels. — (FR) I should of course be pleased to oblige Parliament by trying to find out more about this new toll and sending you a supplementary answer in writing.
Derfor spørger jeg rådsformanden, hvorvidt Rådet agter at foretage sig noget i denne sag eller ikke?
President. — As the author is not present, Question No 4 will be answered in writing.1
Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Jeg takker rådsformanden for hans udførlige svar på mit spørgsmål.
Question No 5, by Mr Ephremidis (H-570/85):
Supplerende og mere specielt vil jeg gerne stille et spørgsmål om de drøftelser, som er påbegyndt i Rådet om den græske økonomis situation og den græske regerings forslag herom, nemlig om Rådet ser positivt på ydelsen af fællesskabslån og på hvilke betingelser?
At the same time, I would stress that the draft budget for 1986 is still under negotiation, that it has yet — regrettably, I would venture to say — to be finalized.
Hvilke oplysninger har han herom, og kan der i Rådet accepteres en udsættelse af iværksættelsen af tiltrædelsestraktatens bestemmelser om frigørelse af kapitalen efter afslutning af overgangsperioden?
It is true that the budget line corresponding to measures taken under a programme aimed at the develop ment and restructuring of the economy of a Mediterranean country, namely line 552 of the preliminary draft budget for 1986, does not feature in the draft budget, but line 551 shows payment appropriations of 85 million ECU and commitment appropriations of 230 million ECU, and these sums, I am sure, will ben efit the economies of the Mediterranean countries in the Community, and that will naturally include Greece.
Goebbels. — (FR) Jeg tror, at det ærede medlems anklager snarere er rettet mod den græske offentlig hed og ikke mod Rådet, og jeg bryder mig ikke om her at blande mig i en intern politisk debat.
In view of the fact that the financing of the Greek Government fiveyear development programme has been included in the IMP 'package', would the Council state why the relevant column of the 1986 preliminary draft budget contains a dash, indicating that no appropriations have been allocated? cated?
Formanden. — Spørgsmål nr. 6 af Alavanos (H573/85):
Mr Goebbels, President-in-Office of the Council. — (FR) In the absence of any appropriate legislative basis, the draft budget contains no specific appropriations for programmes under the Greek five year plan.
Goebbels. — (FR) Jeg kan ikke give noget svar om et eventuelt fællesskabslån, for så ville jeg foregribe Rådets afgørelser, og det kan jeg naturligvis ikke gøre her.
Mr Welsh (ED). — Would the President-in-Office consider that he might find it rather easier to convince his colleagues in the Council to expedite these measures for Greece if the PASOK Government showed a little more readiness to honour the obligations it entered into when it acceded to the Community, parti cularly in the form of opening its borders and not discriminating against Community trade, aligning its tax ation system on the VAT and not shutting off its currency movements from the rest of us?
Ophævelsen af overgangsordningerne i Grækenlands tiltrædelsestraktat med Fællesskabet (1.1.1986) forventes at ville lede til nye alvorlige følger for det allerede store underskud på Grækenlands betalingsbalance, hvilket vil indvirke på produktionen, beskæftigelsen og den samlede nationale økonomi.
The regulation concerning integrated Mediterranean programmes does not constitute a legislative basis for entry in the budget of specific appropriations for programmes under the Greek five year plan.
Goebbels, formand for Rådet. — (FR) Den 11. oktober 1985 vedtog den græske regering et program om genopretning af den græske økonomi og traf sideløbende hermed en række beskyttelsesforanstaltninger i medfør af artikel 109 i EØF-traktaten.
Mr Alavanos (COM). — (GR) I agree with the President-in-Office that there is no legal basis for the fiveyear programme, and my question is why such a legal basis is still lacking after so many years of negotiations
Om: En fællesskabspolitik på turistområdet
Subject: Articles 108-109 of the EEC Treaty
Welsh (ED). — (EN) Mener rådsformanden ikke, at det ville være rimeligere at høre kollegerne, inden man påberåber sig artikel 109, og ikke bagefter, og kan han bekræfte, at den græske regering havde hørt Rådet og havde hørt Kommissionen,inden den påberåbte sig den nævnte artikel?
It is expected that, when the transitional arrange ments provided for in the Act of Accession of Greece to the Community expire (on 1 January 1986), this will lead to a further serious deterioration in Greece's balance-of-payments deficit — which is already considerable — affecting production, employment and the entire Greek economy.
Det er således op til medlemsstaterne at forelægge turistprojekter, der vil kunne opnå fællesskabsstøtte fra regional-, social- og land brugsfondene.
Finally, as with Spain and Portugal — which has been deplored by the House as a whole — why are Council and the Commission, as it were, sliding out of their obligations in this way?
Goebbels. — (FR) Jeg står ikke her for at kommentere den græske regerings handlinger, og jeg kan derfor ikke se, hvordan jeg skal kunne besvare det ærede medlems spørgsmål.
In view of this state of affairs, is the Council con sidering taking urgent measures to put Articles 108-109 of the EEC Treaty into operation so as to limit imports and block the removal of con trols on capital, etc.?
Cryer (S). — (EN) Vil ministeren bekræfte, at den græske regering ikke får særbehandling, og at enhver medlemsstat, der forsøger at indføre importkontrol og hindre kapitalbevægelser ved at gribe ind på den ene eller den anden måde, må finde sig i Kommissionens undersøgelser, at traktatens bestemmelser vil blive anvendt, og at Kommissionen og Rådet i Fællesskab kan gøre en ende på sådanne handlinger, fore taget af en demokratisk valgt regering, ved at bruge deres beføjelser i henhold til Rom-traktaten?
Mr Goebbels, President-in-Office of the Council. — (FR) On 11 October 1985 the Greek Government adopted a programme for the recovery of the Greek economy, in parallel with which it took a series of protective measures under Article 109 of the EEC Treaty.
Hvad angår medlemsstaternes forelæggelse af projekter, der vil kunne modtage EF-støtte, henhører for valtningen af regional-, social- og landbrugsfondene ikke under Rådet. Det har derfor ikke kompetence til at give det ærede medlem de ønskede oplysninger.
It is normal in the circumstances that the Commission should not be making separate arrangements to cover these programmes in the Greek five year plan, especially since the IMPs have only recently been launched.
Goebbels. — (FR) Rådet såvel som Kommissionen handler altid i overensstemmelse med de traktater, vi har skrevet under på.
The Commission examined the programme for the recovery of the Greek economy and, on 30 October last, forwarded its recommendations to the Greek Government, pursuant to Article 108, paragraph 1.
Disse traktater finder anvendelse på samtlige medlemsstater, med deres rettigheder og deres pligter.
In addition, the Commission expressed the opinion that the granting of mutual assistance under Article 108, paragraph 2, of the Treaty establishing the EEC was justified in order to secure a lasting recovery in the Greek balance of payments and a return to full partici pation in Community trade.
Ephremidis (COM). — (GR) Rådsformanden sagde, at inden den græske regering traf de sidste foranstaltninger, forelå der henstillinger fra Kommissionens og Rådets side. Og i fortsættelse heraf tilføjede han, at disse foranstaltninger undersøges grundigt, således at Rådet kan gribe ind eller ikke gribe ind med det ene eller det andet.
Finally, with regard to the protective measures affect ing trade and movements of capital taken by the Greek Government, the Commission, in consultation with the Greek Government, is at present carrying out a thorough examination of these measures which it expects to complete by 15 November.
Barrett (RDE). — (EN) Accepterer Rådet sine økonomiske eksperters forudsigelser eller opfattelse, nemlig at turismen i år 2000 vil være verdens største er hverv?
Mr Christodoulou (PPE). — (GR) I would like to stress to the President-in-Office that we are now con fusing two completely separate matters, and put the question to him: since he himself admits that the IMP's are quite unrelated to Greece's fiveyear programme, because they concern totally different activities, how does he explain the fact that the Greek Government has for three years been declaring officially to the Greek people that the fiveyear programme, which comes to an end in a year and a half, is to be financed by the Community, when nothing has in fact happened in that area?
Er formanden for Rådet i bekræftende fald ikke enig I, at man bør give turistpolitikken i Fælles skabet større prioritet, end man tilsyneladende giver den nu?
Moreover, not only is there no regulation on the subject, but I gather there is not even any intention along those lines.
Mener Rådet ikke også, at vi her har et område, hvor der kan skabes arbejdspladser hurtigere end på noget andet område inden for Fællesskabet, og ganske særlig arbejdspladser for unge der er arbejdsløse i Fællesskabet? Kan jeg få rådsformandens til sagn om, at Rådet behandler turismen, jobskabelsen og udformningen af en turistpolitik med den prioritet, sagen fortjener?
I think that the Council of Ministers should make itself clear to the Greek people in this connection, regarding which it awaits some kind of response so that it will no longer be deceived by the Greek Government's declarations, and no longer expect from the Community things that will never happen.
Jeg vil gerne spørge: Kan denne undersøgelse få som resultat, at den græske regering bliver nødt til at ændre de foranstaltninger, den har truffet, eller træffe ekstra foranstaltninger?
The Council for its part will be meeting this coming 18 November, when it will be informed of all the initiatives taken in the meantime by the Commission.
Og hvad er i så fald det ret lige grundlag, Rådet vil støtte sig til for at pålægge den at ændre disse foranstaltninger eller tilføje nye?
At this meeting the Council will be making a thorough examination of the Greek measures and taking any decisions called for.
Goebbels. — (FR) Vi genoptager her en drøftelse, vi allerede havde her i salen den 23. oktober.
I therefore ask the President-in-Office whether Council intends to do anything about this, or not.
Ved den lejlighed stillede hr. Barrett mig praktisk taget det samme spørgsmål, og jeg kunne dengang forsikre ham, at Rådet — og jeg tror også at kunne sige det for
Mr Goebbels. — (FR) I feel that the Honourable Member intends these accusations to be heard by public opinion in Greece rather than by the Council, and I have no wish to comment here on a debate con cerned with domestic policy.
Goebbels. — (FR) I sit møde den 28. oktober havde Økofin-Rådet en første drøftelse af de af den græske regering den 11. oktober 1985 trufne foranstaltninger.
Mr Alavanos (COM). — (GR) I thank the President-in-Office for his fairly lengthy answer to my question.