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Det er meget vigtigt, at den fungerende formand viser skyldigt hensyn til forhandlingernes forløb i Parlamentet og derfor bestræber sig på — og dette siger jeg med al respekt og i en konstruktiv ånd — at høre et indlæg eller et bidrag til ende netop for at undgå det problem, som vi nu står over for.
I would like to draw attention to this heart warming spirit which crosses the House without stop ping at boundaries of political opinion.
Må jeg af hensyn til problemer, der kan opstå i fremtiden, stille formand skabet dette forslag?
And I should also like to thank Mr Ortoli who spoke on behalf of the Commission and who made this proposal to aid Greece.
Hvis der skulle hænde hr. J. Taylor et uheld, hvilket jeg ikke håber, ville hans mandat ikke være opnåeligt for enhver; det ville blive genstand for et suppleringsvalg, hvilket efter min mening er, hvad denne forhandling drejer sig om.
I should like to remind you rapidly, ladies and gentlemen, that until such time as there is a uniform electoral procedure, this House is itself responsible for verifying the credentials of its Members.
J. D. Taylor. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne gyde olie på vandene ved at forsikre Parlamentet om, at dette ikke var et angreb på et folks retsskaffenhed. Det var faktisk en forsvarstale for dette folk; mit argument var, at de ikke i forbindelse med valg til Europa-Parlamentet skulle nægtes almindelig stem meret og princippet om én mand, én stemme.
That is set out in the Act of 20 September 1976 on the election of representatives to the Assembly of the European Communities, and we find the same in Article 6 of our own rules.
Jeg har studeret forretningsordenen, og jeg kan ikke foretage rettelser.
The resolution will be put to the vote at the next voting time.
Cottrell. — (EN) Hr. formand, må jeg bede Dem om at opfordre taleren til at rette sin udtalelse.
President. — The next item is the report (Doc. 1-540/81), drawn up by Mr Chambeiron on behalf of the Committee on the Verification of Credentials, on the verification of Members' credentials.
McCartin. — (EN) Hr. formand, som repræsentant for det irske folk er jeg ked af at have måttet lytte til det, jeg lige har hørt, og været vidne til det, jeg lige har overværet.
We did have reservations about the names of the replacements of the three Irish members of this House who had left us. Complaints had been made.
McCartin. — (EN) Det er fuldstændig oplagt, at den sidste taler, som så mange af hans britiske konservative venner og tilhængere, intet ved om, hvad der sker i den del af Det forenede Kongerige, der kaldes Nordirland.
Perhaps I should remind you here that although the election in June 1979 of the Irish members of this House did not give rise to any disputes at all, the replacements of our erstwhile colleagues gave rise to the expression of certain reservations because under the terms of the Irish law on the election of members of the European Parliament by direct universal suffrage — that law is included as an annex to my report — the members replacing them are designated by the Dail of the Irish Republic on a proposal from the party to which the retiring members belong.
Formanden. — Og nu til de sidste indlæg i denne forhandling.
Indeed, I can see neither rhyme nor reason in validating the credentials of members with conditions or reservations attached.
J. D. Taylor. — (EN) Hr. formand, kan De fremsætte en erklæring på formandskabets vegne?
I would add that the amendment before us would seem completely out of order.
Hr. Chambeiron har påpeget, at der er nogle forbehold i betænkningen, som jeg har refereret til i mit indlæg. Kan formanden, hvis beslutningen vedtages, forsikre os om, at formanden over for den sydirske regering vil gøre forestillinger om disse forbehold?
We have asked the President to approach the Irish authorities.
Hume. — (EN) Hr. formand, kunne vi vende tilbage til sagens kerne?
I think if we did that she would find it unfortunate.
Parlamentets udvalg til valgs prøvelse har enstemmigt, og jeg gentager enstemmigt, rettet en henstilling til denne forsamling, og derfor finder jeg, at forsamlingen bør respektere udvalgets enstemmige henstilling.
We have no reason to believe that the President will not follow the Committee's recommendations that she should draw the attention of the Irish authorities to the discrepancy between the Irish electoral procedure and the Act of the 20 September 1976.
Formanden. — Hr. Taylor, jeg kan ikke på formand skabets vegne fremsætte en erklæring om det spørgsmål, fordi Parlamentet kun vedtager beslutningen.
The members of the committee considered Article 12, which is concerned with this precise problem of replacement members, at great length. We had a long discussion which I will not report to the House because time is short.
Selvfølgelig står det formanden for Parlamentet frit for, hvis hun ønker det, at rejse dette spørgsmål under hendes samtaler med den irske regering, men med hensyn til den formelle situation kan vi kun vedtage denne beslutning og ikke den begrundelse, som er knyttet til den.
We did not seek to minimize the legal difficulties, but we also considered that the Committee was made up of politicians and we had also to concern ourselves with the political aspect of the problem.
For det andet, da valgreglerne i forbindelse med valg af medlemmer fra den irske republik til Europa-Parlamentet blev gennemført, havde vælgerne, da valget fandt sted, fuldt kendskab til reglerne for udskiftning af parlamentsmedlemmer, eftersom loven om valget var blevet grundigt debatteret i det irske parlament, og de irske vælgere udførligt informeret om den.
And, of course, apart from the fact that fail ure to accept the credentials of our three colleagues would result in Ireland's being obliged to hold new general elections to appoint three new Members — and the significance of that fact escapes no one — the committee also considered whether the procedure used in the Republic of Ireland was or was not of a nature to upset the balance established by the election of June 1979.
J. D. Taylor. — (EN) Tak for den erklæring, hr. formand, Hvis Deres erklæring havde lydt anderledes, ville jeg have trukket mine ændringsforslag tilbage.
Those, Mr President, are the reasons why I recom mend to this House that the mandate of our three Irish colleagues should be established as valid.
Chambeiron, ordfører. — (FR) Hr. formand, i de bemærkninger jeg er kommet med, har jeg afholdt mig fra at benytte ethvert udtryk og ethvert ord, som kunne foranledige, at nogle af mine kolleger frem satte fejlagtige eller uovervejede bemærkninger.
However, so as to deal with the points which have already been made, although, as I said, we did not consider ourselves competent to rule whether Irish electoral law was consistent with the terrhs of the Act of 20 September 1976, the view of the committee is that the President of this House should draw the attention of the Irish authorities to the fact that the procedure provided for in Irish law for the replace ment of retiring members has not been without criticism in the light of the provisions of the Act of 20 September 1976.
Jeg ville blot gerne sige, hvilket hr. Taylor selv gjorde opmærksom på, at denne betænkning loyalt afspejler den enighed, som udvalget for valgs prøvelse har givet udtryk for.
Mr J. D. Taylor. — Mr President, this debate is about Southern Irish electoral practices and whether in fact this Parliament is prepared to accept new Members, replacement Members, who at no time, either at the European general election in June 1979 or since then, have had their name presented to the electorate of Southern Ireland on the basis of universal suffrage.
Vi har ikke indledt denne debat for at skabe uenighed mellem grupperne i forsamlingen, og jeg mener, at det i en sådan debat er tvingende nødvendigt, at man bevarer overblikket og nøgternheden. heden.
The principle 'One man, one vote' has been denied in Southern Ireland in the case of these three Members.
Chambeiron, ordfører. — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg tror, at vi kan lette hr. Taylor for hans bekymringer.
I have tried, Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, to be as concise and as brief as possible.
Parlamentet vedtager kun en beslutning, og det repræsenteres i drøftelserne med den irske regering af formanden. Selvfølgelig kan den irske regering få kendskab til forhandlingerne, da de er offentlige; men det, der vedtages officielt, er beslutningen.
I believe that I have expressed faithfully the concern of all members of the committee, a concern not to conceal the seriousness of the reservations we have felt, whilst at the same time we ensure by voting in favour that our Irish colleagues should be rid of the uncertainty which has been theirs for more than three months.
Vi har tillid til, at formanden foran lediger, at sagen forelægges de irske myndigheder, og jeg tror ikke, at det ville være hensigtsmæssigt af hensyn til formanden for denne forsamling at indføje hr. Taylors ændringsforslag, i forslaget til beslutning, eftersom hr. Taylor selv har erkendt, at disse ændringsforslag var indeholdt i min berænkning. Hr. formand, jeg tror, at vi kan afslutte debatten om dette spørgsmål.
We know that there have been 110% turnouts in elections in Southern Ireland, and we know that one of the main parties — I see Mr Lalor looking at me some what guiltily — has a slogan, 'vote early, vote often'.
Det forslag til beslutning, som vi på et enigt udvalgs vegne har fremsat, må sættes til afstemning, idet der ville være uhensigtsmæssigt i
And we will remember that it was one of the Members for Southern Ireland who managed to abuse our electronic voting system to vote for two or three Members and was reprimanded for that.
Et sprog, der ikke undervises i i skolerne, der ikke har adgang til massemedierne, der ikke kan bruges i samfundsmæssige sammenhænge, er nødvendigvis dømt til at blive mere og mere fattigt og til i sidste instans at dø ud.
We are going to vote on a resolution, and it is what the resolution says that counts and not what the report says — and not one of the points which he quite properly makes in condemning the Southern Irish legislation is incorporated in his resolution.
Forhandlingen er afsluttet.
That is not democracy.
Afstemningen vil finde sted i næste afstemningstid.
It is not based on the principle of one man, one vote and it must be condemned.
Fællesskabscharter for regionale sprog og kulturer
That was the time in fact when this matter should have been clarified.
Ordføreren har ordet.
I call Mr Blaney.
Arfé, ordfører. — (IT) Hr. formand, ærede kolleger, det dokument, jeg har den ære at forelægge forsamlingen, er et resultat af en række forslag, der allerede er blevet stillet her i Parlamentet og har udgangspunkt i en opinionsbevægelse, der er tegn på visse tendenser, der efterhånden viser sig over hele verden.
And so, Mr President, I hope that the points made by Mr Chambeiron which I have taken out of his report and simply added to his motion by way of amendment will be approved by this House and that therefore what he is suggesting in his report will in fact be the request of this House and that the Southern Irish Parliament will quickly amend its legislation.
Også i dette tilfælde er der ingen tvivl om, at det ville være en alvorlig fejl at idealisere de regionale kulturer i en tvetydig dyrkelse af det naive.
Mr Blaney. — Mr President, insofar as the Members in question here are concerned, I think that Mr Chambeiron has put the picture very succinctly before this House.
Kulturudvalget mente, at disse tendenser bør tages til efterretning og besluttede sig til i den udstrækning, spørgsmålet falder ind under dets kompetence at bidrage til at forsvare dette vigtige og vitale element i den europæiske kultur.
Were it not for the fact that we have had the short speech which Mr Taylor just now made, with his tongue in his cheek, which was intended to be as insulting as only he and his ilk can be, towards Irish men
Det sidste problem var omkostningerne i forbindelse med en politik til fremme af de regionale kulturers udvikling.
Pardon me, Mr President, have I got the floor or have I not?
Vi tog også hensyn til, at vor opgave ikke er at lovgive på dette område hen over hovederne på de nationale regeringer, men blot at lægge retningslinjerne i håb om, at disse omsættes til handling.
The Irish legislation makes no provision for the replacement of independent Members, and if either of them leaves this House for one reason or another, then there is no way in which they can be replaced in accordance with either European law or Irish law.
Under denne debat fremgik det, at der især er tre spørgsmål, der bør tages op: det første er, at visse ikke mener, at der overhovedet eksisterer et problem i forbindelse med de etniske og sproglige mindretal i lande som dem, der er medlemmer af Fællesskabet, som alle har demokratisk styre, og som respekterer en hvilken som helst form for frihed.
Members of this House from all parts of Ireland abhor the fact that in South ern Ireland today the principle of 'one man, one vote', is not observed in European elections.
Flertallet mente, at det i dette tilfælde ikke var et sprørgsmål om at kræve en frihed, som ingen nægter, men at skabe de nødvendige betingelser for den konkrete gennemfø
This has brought this Parliament into ridicule, in the press and in the media in Southern Ireland, and I hope this House supports my amendment and thereby supports the sentiment.
I virkeligheden vil det kun være de lokale
President. — Lady Elles, the President may accept a point of order in the middle of a speech, but as the
Jeg ønsker, at de må blomstre længe endnu, for de er, når alt kommer til alt, vores fælles gods.
Here I have to conclude that only elements in that speech were out of order.
Visse af de kulturelle grænser falder sammen med de geografiske grænser mellem medlemsstaterne, men det mest almindelige er, at dette ikke er tilfældet.
It is very difficult for a president to censure in that way.
Under mit arbejde har jeg været i kontakt med repræsentanter for organisationer og institutioner for sprog lige mindretal i Frankrig, Irland og Italien.
Lady Elles. — Well, if you will allow me to do so after he has finished, I would like to make a short speech.
Det er denne ånd vort udvalg har lagt til grund for sit arbejde.
President. — Yes, I certainly will allow that.
Det »charter«, vi har udarbejdet, og som vi forelægger for Parlamentet, indeholder forslag, der er baseret på realisme og moderation.
Lady Elles. — Mr President, I appreciate the problem of the way the rules are drafted.
Ligesom andre er jeg selv overbevist om, at man ville have kunnet gå længere end de grænser, vi har sat, men vi mente, det var væsentligt, at Europa-Parlamentets stillingtagen til dette penible spørgsmål fik så stort et flertal som muligt, således at man opmuntrer de aktioner, der gennemføres på nationalt niveau, når de rettigheder, der her er blevet fastslået, omsættes til lov.
But certainly my Group, and, I think, the whole House would welcome a statement from the chair that any attack on an individual in the way that has just been made is totally unacceptable, and should not be allowed in this Parliament when it attacks the good faith of an individual and is not a matter of substance.
De fleste af de sproglige minoriteter i Europa ønsker, hvad enten de er indfødte eller indvandrede, anerkendelse af retten til at beholde deres eget sprog og deres egen kultur.
Mr Blaney. — ... As I have just been saying, Mr Taylor is the last person who should come into any Parliament to talk about universal suffrage or malpractices, 110% turnouts or music hall jokes.
Mange af dem føler sig i stigende grad truet af den udbredte brug af de såkaldte verdenssprog og af det kvælergreb, hvori disse sprog holder massemedierne.
The biggest joke in the whole western world insofar as elections are concerned was perpetrated by his monolithic party, the Unionist party, that hung on to power for almost fifty years, and discriminated against every body who did not agree with them.
Vort Fællesskab er i sig selv en rig mosaik af traditioner, skikke og erfaringer. Det er en kulturel variation, som vi bør videre føre uden diskrimination.
He comes along now with this tirade at this particular time and goes on in the way that only he can, about the Court of Justice.
Efter min mening er dette en vital del af den europæiske virkelighed, og derfor bør det også indgå i vores opfattelse af Det europæiske Fællesskab, og hvad det står for.
Mr Flanagan. — Mr President, I would ask you to take note of the fact that the speech made by Mr Taylor constituted an attack on the integrity of the people of an entire country and that that surely should also be regarded as totally reprehensible.
Samtidig med at vi søger at skabe over nationale strukturer, er der mange mennesker, som søger at skabe et fællesskab, som måske er af en mere fintmærkende type, under det nationale niveau. Det mener jeg, vi kan se i decentraliseringsanstrengelserne i hele Europa, som for eksempel den nye franske regering i så høj grad går ind for.
President. — Mr Blaney, may I remind you that we are debating a very specific subject and you are bring ing us into quite another debate.
Richard, medlem af Kommissionen. — (EN) Hr. formand, jeg håber forsamlingen finder det gunstigt, at jeg tager ordet så tidligt i denne vigtige forhandling for at give en orientering om, hvad Kommis sionen mener om dette spørgsmål. Jeg vil naturligvis blive her og lytte til de indlæg, der måtte komme, og jeg vil stå til rådighed for forsamlingen, hvis man ønsker svar på spørgsmål.
Mr Blaney. — Mr President, I have full regard for you and any occupant of the chair, but Mr Taylor got away with the most insulting blackguardly speech here that ever was perpetrated in this House, insulting a Member of this House, insulting a nation and a part of the EEC, as only he and his ilk from that region, that sundered region of our country, could possibly do.
For mange er den stærkeste kraft, som gør en gruppe til en gruppe eller et fællesskab til et fællesskab, det sprog, som tales. Når vi i dag omtaler disse sprog som mindretalsprog, må vi ikke glemme, at retten til at tale regionale sprog var en af de stærkeste kræfter i det 19. århundredes historie og kultur i Europa.
The only thing I can do is to read the full text of Mr Taylor's speech.
Parlamentets beskæftigelse med spørgsmålet viser, at det stadig spiller en helt central rolle.
If the same applies to him as applied to Mr Blaney, I would make the same ruling with regard to him.
Sproget er kernen i ethvert levende fællesskab.
However, I first have to read the text before I can so rule.
Forth. — (EN) Kan jeg få lov at stille et spørgsmål i henhold til artikel 64?
President. — Mr Blaney, there is no need to add insult to injury.
Det er mig en stor glæde, at jeg kan deltage i denne forhandling på Kommissionens vegne.
Mr Forth. — In view of what you have just said, Mr President, I would suggest that in future we do not change vice-presidents halfway through speeches.
Det er mig en særlig stor glæde, fordi jeg selv kommer fra et land, der længe har tilhørt et flersproget fællesskab præget af mange kulturer, idet det samler walliserne, skotterne, nordirerne og englænderne, som hver især har deres egen kultur og deres eget sprog.
It is very important that the Chair pays due regard to the procedure of the House and that you therefore endeavour — and I say this with great respect and in a constructive spirit — to see through each speech and each contribution, precisely in order to avoid the problem that we now face. May I make that suggestion to the Presidency for the future?
Jeg finder hr. Arfés betænkning fremragende, og jeg vil gerne give udtryk for min påskønnelse af, at udvalget for ungdom, kultur, uddannelse, information og sport her fremlægger et afbalaceret og håndterligt sæt af forslag på dette vigtige område.
Lady Elles. — Mr President, I fully object both on behalf of my Group and on behalf of this House and on behalf of an individual Member of this Parliament, that anybody should be addressed in the way that this previous speaker has spoken.
Forth. — (EN) Det plejede at være sådan i Under huset! Det har Kommissionen glemt.
Sitting of Thursday, 15 October 1981 means in which people are democratically selected to represent their party and the people in this Parliament.
Jeg fortsætter på wallisisk, hvis han ikke holder sig i skindet — hvis vi ikke tager hensyn til dette, vil vore administrative reformer være ufuldstændige.
Mr J. D. Taylor. — On a point of order, Mr Presi­dent, I should like to ease the situation by assuring the House that this was not an attack on the integrity of the people of a country.
Administrative reformer må efter min mening også tage hensyn til de sproglige og kulturelle behov hos de mennesker, reformerne i første omgang skulle komme til gode.
It was, in fact, a speech in defence of the people of that country; my argument was that they should not be denied universal franchise and the principle 'one man, one vote' in European elections.
Vi må sørge for, at denne positive udvikling virker som en udfyldning i forhold til vor gene relle indsats for at skabe en fredelig sameksistens mellem alle vore kulturer og skabe forståelse og respekt mellem alle vore befolkningsgrupper, uanset hvilken kulturel baggrund og oprindelse de måtte have.
If anything unfortunate should happen to Mr John Taylor, which I hope it will not, his seat would not be up for grabs, it would be up for by-election, which is what I think this debate is about. ι
Jeg må tilstå, at jeg ikke har ret meget tilovers for et Fællesskab, som alene er baseret på handel.
President. — Mr Cottrell, it is up to the speaker to correct.
Derfor mener jeg, vi skal styrke den europæiske solidaritetsfølelse ved at anerkende vores forskellighed!
Mr Cottrell. — May I appeal to you, Mr President, to invite the speaker to correct his statement.
Og det må vi stadig lægge til grund for vort arbejde i dag.
President. — On your own initiative, yes.
Behovet for at beskytte regionale sprog og kulturer hænger ofte tæt sammen med de forsøg, der gøres i Europa, på at finde en mere retfærdig ansvarsfordeling mellem Fællesskabet, nationalstaterne og de regio nale eller lokale myndigheder.
Mr McCartin. — Mr President, as somebody repre­senting the people of Ireland, I am sorry to have had to. listen to what I have just heard and to witness what I have witnessed.
Vi står i dag over for en tragisk stigning i arbejdsløshedstallene i hele Fællesskabet, og vi må derfor over alt støtte initiativer, der er rettet mod skabelse af nye former for jobs og meningsfuld beskæftigelse.
I hope that most of what has been said will be quickly forgotten by everybody here and, if written down, that it won't ever be read by anybody.
Jeg tror, vi må indrage dette i vore tanker og planer, ikke blot på fællesskabsplan, men også på det nationale og det regionale og lokale plan, når vi prøver at skabe samlede løsninger på de økonomiske, sociale og kulturelle udviklingsproblemer.
Mr McCartin. — It is quite obvious that the last speaker, like so many of his British Conservative friends and supporters, knows nothing about what happens in the part of the United Kingdom known as Northern Ireland.
Og faktisk ser vi i øjeblikket, at medlemsstaterne selv i udstrakt grad anerkender disse problemer.
What I would like to say is that the rules and regula­tions governing the Irish electoral system were accepted.
De hollandske myndigheder yder vidtgående støtte til den frisiske minoritet, og det samme gør de italienske myndigheder til forskellige sproglige og kulturelle grupper inden for deres nationale territorium.
If those rules are found, at this time or in the future, to be deficient, we can sit down and make recommendations as to how they can be changed.
Belgien og Luxembourg, som ligger på den kulturelle skille linje mellem den germanske og den latinske del af Europa, er meget opmærksomme på betydningen af forskellige sprog og kulturer.
If at this stage we were to decide to change them, we would find ourselves in a situation where a political party, with their own views and ideals, would at this moment be disenfranchised and would not have an opportunity to be represented in this House.