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Vi mener ikke, at dette er et nødvendigt kneb eller en nødven dig løsning fra Rådet, men det er et varsel om en særdeles hård og påholdende politik især for land brugsudgifternes vedkommende.
Others see budgetary discipline as a way of putting a gag on this Parliament which prevents the Member States, in their native wisdom, from solving problems in their own way.
Ducarme (L). — (FR) Fru formand, jeg vil først og fremmest på den liberale gruppes vegne, bringe noget i erindring og for det andet stille Rådet et spørgsmål.
Finally, it is a way of creating a social policy — in a word, of combating the damaging effects of unemployment, and this has not been made very clear.
Under denne synsvinkel giver budgetpolitikken os to helt præcise parametre: udgifterne til landbruget og EUGFL, som man har besluttet skal stige til en sats, der ligger over de nye egne indtægter.
They have a united voice on the things that are not concrete and cannot be understood, but when it comes to specifics and basics, such as the number of ECU to be provided in the budget and decisions about who carries the cost, the Ten find it increasingly difficult to speak in unison.
Den anden bemærkning er, at med vedtagelsen af tilbagebetalingen til England og Tyskland indfører man det svigagtige princip med fuld modydelse samt, ud over dette, en formindskelse af indtægterne.
So Mr O'Keeffe has my sympathy in the difficult task he has had to perform over this week, and indeed over the entire period of the Irish presidency. Unlike the French presidency before it, the Irish presidency has come up against a stone wall, has come to the edge of the precipice, and has had to stand with the Community when it was on the point of suffocation.
Jeg mener, det er vigtigt at minde om dette.
That takes me to the next point, which is the question of the supplementary budget.
Det er en slags gentleman's agreement, der er blevet indgået her i Parlamentet, og vi håber, den bliver respekteret.
I make no apologies for the fact that I, with my group, voted for the refund today of the money to the British Government.
Ændringsbudgettet er nødvendigt for de europæiske
This had to do with the attitude that might be adopted in Britain itself to the European Economic
Nu åbner der sig derfor i Fællesskabets økonomi en vej med to forgreninger, hvor indtægter og udgifter fjerner sig mere og mere fra hinanden.
The least one can say of the 1985 budget is that is is pragmatism at its lowest ebb.
Og dette sker på den værste måde, på en måde, der — som den ærede hr. Dankert sagde her til formiddag — næsten er bedragerisk.
Members of the Council, Commission and Parliament know very well that the 1% will be totally inadequate for covering the Com munity's financial commitments — commitments, not political ambitions —, and for responding to the needs of industry and society.
Kyrkos (COM). - (GR) Fru formand, i dag til morgen i denne sal oplevede vi en beskrivelse af den krise, som hjemsøger Fællesskabets Europa.
Community and with the way British politicians were using this subject to stir up public opinion in Britain against the idea of the Community.
Det drejer sig om erklæringen fra den engelske minearbejder og vor kollega fra Labour, som nyder vor ubegrænsede støtte.
While we must recognize that the States of Western Europe have overspent their national budgets, we can not apply the same rule to the budget of the European Community, which is just in its infancy; rather there must be a transfer from public spending within the national States to the budget of the Community.
Og i stedet for som nogle konservative med lemmer af Europa-Parlamentet at kalde bifaldet til de kæmpende strejkende »skrålen op«, var det bedre, om vi alle uden at være forblindet af klassefordomme sammen så på, hvilken fremtid der venter Europa.
There are some things which can be more efficiently done there, but if we are to achieve economic convergence over the years, we must have not only new Com munity legislation, but also a Community budget to go along with it, so that the poorer regions are no longer administered a sort of annual sedative to keep them happy and quiet but will be given a programme for their development, as a result of which they will ultimately no longer need assistance and the Community can devote its energies to new objectives.
Og hvordan gør det det?
Well, I had no difficulty at all.
Ved at udvide indtægterne, dog uden at indføre nye afgifter og uden at indføre nye betalinger.
My colleague Mr Lalor said he was voting against this refund and apparently he expressed the opinion that he was inspired by historic lessons in the decision that he took.
Det udvider ind tægterne, kort sagt, med to kunstgreb : ved at udskyde udgifterne til det følgende år til et beløb af 500 millioner til de ikkeobligatoriske udgifter, og ved at for uddiskontere de fremtidige indtægter, som sandsynligvis aldrig vil indgå — jeg mindes de forventede 200 millioner i sukkerafgift.
I have a fair idea of the history of the peoples of Europe and the people of Ireland — when I voted today I was not inspired by the lessons of history but by the concerns of the future.
Dette kan lade sig gøre i den særlige regnskabssituation, hvor kontrollen af de pågældende konti på en måde forskydes.
I was concerned because the people in my constituency would not thank me very much for voting on the basis of some lesson that was taught to me by history when they themselves would fail to sell their milk and meat products, to collect their benefits in the disadvantaged areas, to get all the other benefits that come to us through the annual Community budget.
Den forskydes, fordi der sker for skudsbetalinger af egne indtægter; den forskydes, for di de nationale konti i regnskabet kan komme til at vise underskud nu, hvor princippet — som i øvrigt må betragtes som positivt — om, at der ikke ydes renter på medlemsstaternes forskudsbetalinger, er vedtaget.
I was concerned because I knew of the determination of some people in the Council to prevent progress until this matter was regulated, and not least too I remembered the fact that Parliament had already made a decision on this: Parliament had already given its word that this was the course it would take, and it was entirely appropriate that we should vote as we did today.
Tillægsbudgettet for 1984 og udkastet til budgettet for 1985 afspejler den blindgyde, som den politik, de ledende kredse har fulgt, har ført Fællesskabet ind i.
Mr Alavanos (COM). — (GR) Madam President, I too should like to express our profound concern not so much about the European Parliament as about the effects which the budgetary developments will have on our country, and particularly on Greek farmers.
Resultatet er et forsøg på at fratage Europa-Parlamentet dets budgetmæssige beføjelser, afpresning for åbne døre for at få tillægsbudgettet vedtaget, som det er, da landmændene ellers ikke vil blive betalt, samt opgivelse af planerne om omstrukturering af økono mien, anvendelse af nye politikker og indførelse af besparelser.
As regards the European Parliament, I fear that, since a lot of fuss is very often made about nothing, this is a game between the Community institutions in which it is naturally the workers who have to foot the bill. We see again today that there is a great difference between what the European Parliament says and what it does, and specifically because it has made a U-turn and accepted the United Kingdom refund.
Man kan også blive utrolig vred, når Rådet, mens det stadig væk afviser de utilstrækkelige bevillinger til det integrerede middelhavsprogram, som Kommissionen og Europa-Parlamentet allerede har vedtaget, samtidig indskriver bevillinger til en ny finansiel protokol med Tyrkiet og således stryger Evrens militærstyre med hårene, det styre, som vi alle har fordømt.
We, both as representatives of the Greek Communist Party and as Greeks, cannot accept this, and neither can we agree with the Greek Government, which was a party to the Fontainebleau agreement on the United Kingdom refund without even obtaining its thirty pieces of silver for the integrated Mediterranean programmes, for the five-year programme and for so many other matters which it had made such a lot of noise about.
Vi må dog hele tiden have de reelle passiver for øje, som i 1984 overstiger 500 millioner ECU, forudsat at medlemslandene betaler punktligt.
Nevertheless, it hurt me to vote as I did, not because of any historical considerations, but because I have seen in recent months one Member State seeking to bend the will of this Community to its own wishes, and in this case even to take this Community to the point of suffocation, when the amount of money we were talking about was such a small percentage of the wealth and income of that nation.
Vi ved allerede, at Det forenede Kongerige har sagt ja til budgettet for 1984 på to betingelser, nemlig at man med denne indbetaling løser problemet om budgetdisciplinen og problemet med de egne indtægter.
I do not propose that we should disregard entirely all considerations of the amount that is paid out by and the amount that returns to a country.
Vi har altså ingen garanti for indbetalinger fra medlemslandenes side.
That must be considered, but it must not be taken to the point when for so little we are prepared to bring this whole Economic Community to a standstill.
For 1985 er udsigterne ikke bedre: momsen forbliver 1% — vi ved ikke hvor længe — med et yderligere misforhold mellem betalingsforpligtelserne og betalingerne. lingerne.
The Minister makes the point — and I shall only be able to deal with this point, I'm afraid — that we should not lose heart because of the budgetary situation, that there are other things that are important as well.
Næsten ingen af de rige lande, mine ærede kolleger, taler længere om fællesskabssolidaritet.
The last speaker asked what budgetary discipline was.
De herskende klasser forsøger forskrækket af fællesskabskrisen at mele deres egen kage.
I do not think it means a reduction of the amount of money paid to agriculture or other policies.
De er enige om én ting, nemlig begrebet »budgetdisciplin«, som betyder disciplin for de fattige og nye impulser til de rige til deres udvikling på bekostning af de fattige.
Budgetary discipline is a slightly differ ent thing: it is the question of day-to-day manage ment.
Tror man virkelig, at de berørte — dvs. de græske, de italienske, de franske og de irske landmænd og mere generelt de europæiske arbejdere — ikke vil modsætte sig dette med alle midler i vore erklærede princippers navn? Er der nogen, som ikke forstår, at denne dis ciplin betyder, at krisen atter tilspidses?
But we cannot proceed to harmonize legislation, to harmonize economic, social, environmental or other policies and think that that is making progress when this very harmonization will not bring about economic convergence but will, in fact, widen it.
Dette er resultatet af ikke at have vedtaget forordninger i fællesskabsånd, selv ikke i denne sidste fase af Parlamentets arbejde, ikke i rette tid at have forøget de egne indtægter.
We cannot accept that there should be double standards in the Community.
Mangelen på en budgetdisciplin, der er en disciplin, vi er helt parat til at acceptere, forudsat at der med denne først og fremmest forstås en disciplin for Rådet, hvor den højre hånd (Rådet af finansministre) ikke ved, hvad den venstre (Rådet af landbrugs-, industri- og miljøministre) gør.
On the one hand the fundamental problem of the budget, where everyone talks about fair returns, a balanced contribution by the United Kingdom and balance in the Community's finances, without hesitating to infringe the Treaties and the acquis communautaire since 1970.
Som det blev sagt i går i budgetudvalget, kan dette lade sig gøre gennem en seriøs samrådspolitik.
On the other hand, we have the equally fundamental problem of intra-Community trade.
Det er, hvad vi alle ønsker, hvis vi virkelig vil afhjælpe de vanskeligheder og de besværligheder, vi i øjeblikket har.
There is one country, Greece which, despite having the lowest per capita GNP of all the Member States, has an enormous deficit in trade with these other countries because of its membership of the European Community.
Det græske kommunistiske par ti (indenlandske) foreslår ligeledes, at forhøjelsen af de egne indtægter træder i kraft den 1.10.1985 med tilbagevirkende kraft fra den 1.1.1985, og støtter be slutningen, at momskoefficienten fra nu af fastsættes til 1,6% med gyldighed fra 1988.
Since the European Parliament elections there have been dozens of proceedings brought by the Com mission on matters such as the National Pharmaceutical Organization, the release of blocked capital, import problems, the Greek customs etc.
Kyrkos serne af disse budgetters utilstrækkelighed, hvoraf vi kan se alvoren i de problemer, der snart vil vise sig.
Alavanos munity. One thousand million will again be needed for the British contribution and 1 350 million ECU for the common agricultural policy.
Men da ligger vejen åben for de sociale eksplosioner, som vi mener, at minearbejderstrejken kun er et forvarsel om.
Although we are usually told that it is not fitting for a Member of Parliament to interrogate a Minister about his intentions, you will understand that the kind of parliamentarians that we are makes it impossible for us to be satisfied with mere intentions.
Tomlinson (S). — (EN) Fru formand, da jeg har så kort tid til rådighed, vil jeg indskrænke mine kom mentarer til to eller tre punkter.
For that reason, I would ask you to give us very precise details of the way that the Council of Ministers intends to meet the budgetary shortfall for 1985.
Wolff (L). — (FR) Fru formand, kære kolleger, i for middags accepterede vi og her i eftermiddag vedtog vi betalingen til Det forenede Kongerige. Jeg synes, det var udmærket.
Mr Rigo (S). — (IT) Madam President, I too would like to comment on the continually changing and increasingly ambiguous decisions taken by the Council and the Commission during the last few weeks by beginning with an evaluation of the situation.
For det første har vi under denne forhandling hørt en række beskrivende udtryk blive brugt om Parlamentets beslutning om at frigive rabatten til Det forenede Kongerige.
what is to become of the supplementary budget and of payments to Community farmers.
Jeg synes, det bør understreges, at nogle af disse beskrivende udtryk ikke kan accepteres af alle Pariamentes medlemmer.
But it is unheard-of that Community farmers, and of course Greek farmers as well, will this time be paid both with Community money and with extraordinary national contributions, which in Greece's case will amount to 15 352 000 ECU.
Det er f.eks. blevet sagt, at denne beslutning er et udtryk for goodwill, det er blevet sagt, at betingelserne for den britiske rabat ikke er helt opfyldt, og at vi nu forventer en eller anden modydelse fra Det forenede Kongerige.
So the Greek Government has to grant subsidies from the national budget, but of course according to Community rather than national criteria.
Med hensyn til tillægsbudgettet for 1984 gad jeg nok vide, om vi ikke ved at kalde det »tillægs« gør os latterlige.
We can see, therefore, that the time of the fat cows, which to a great extent fuelled the pre-election campaigns of various parties contesting the elections to the European Parliament, is coming to an end.
For hvad er det egentlig af indtægter?
And this is not all.
Der er et forskud på en milliard, der ganske vist kan til bagebetales uden renter, et forskud på 200 millioner vedrørende sukkerafgifterne og 500 millioner fra ned skæringer i udgifterne og fra ændringer i budgetstrukturen. Denne sidste post kan til nød forstås.
Another price must be paid for the 1984 supplementary budget, and that is financial discipline, which as a concept frightens Greek workers and reminds them of austerity and other such concepts; moreover, it is obvious that, in connection with the fixing of farm prices, it has particularly negative effects for Greek farmers and in practice gives suitable scope for various forces in the Community to press for more than they had in the 1984 budget.
Den anden giver os det indtryk, at vi er ved at sælge skindet, før bjørnen er skudt, og at vi på forhånd bruger bevillingerne for de følgende år. Budgettet for 1985 er allerede mindre end 1984-budgettet. Vi kunne ikke overholde budgettet for 1984. Vi vil ikke kunne over holde budgettet for 1985.
Another particularly negative fact is that the 1985 budget is in deficit, and although we do not think that this is necessarily a trick or a solution imposed by the Council, it results in a particularly severe policy of austerity, mainly as regards agricultural expenditure.
I privatlivet ville præsentationen af en budgetsituation af denne art blive betragtet som en præsentation af en forfalsket status, der havde til formål at indgyde tillid, og det mener jeg ikke er samvittighedsfuldt.
Other groups in the Parliament have made these same observations, which point to the necessity of develop ing an overall, comprehensive budgetary plan for some years to come, rather than getting involved in individual items.
Hvordan kan vi stoppe budgethullet?
Otherwise the political juggling and the ambiguities surrounding individual budget items which we have seen in recent months will become the reality of Community policy.
Jeg må sige, at jeg ikke kan acceptere dette.
Mr Ducarme (L). — (FR) Madam President, I will be extremely brief.
I juli stillede Parlamentet en helt konkret betingelse, og denne betingelse er helt og fuldt opfyldt.
On behalf of the Liberal Group I would like to jog the House's memory and, secondly, put a question to the Council.
Betingelsen var, at der skulle forelægges et tillægsbudget, og det blev understreget talrige gange af en lang række talere herunder formanden for budgetudvalget, at forelæggelsen af tillægsbudgettet for 1984 skete uden at foregribe noget, vi ønskede at sige om indholdet at det te budget.
Bearing this in mind, budget policy provides us with two distinct parameters, namely agricultural and EAGGF expenditure which are both likely to increase at a rate faster rate than that of the Community's new own resources.
Så hvis nogen skulle mene, at medlemmer ne fra Det forenede Kongerige føler, at de på en eller anden måde står i taknemmelighedsgæld på grund af det, der er blevet beskrevet som et udtryk for goodwill, vil jeg gerne straks bringe dem ud af denne vildfarelse.
Moreover by agreeing to a rebate for the UK and Germany the way is open to the introduction, via the back door, of the concept of 'fair return' and therefore to a decrease in budgetary contributions.
Jeg går nu over til spørgsmålet om budgetdisciplin, som vi har hørt en hel del om i dag. Vi har naturlig vis hørt mange modstridende meninger om budget disciplin, fordi vi allesammen taler om begreber, som vi ikke helt forstår, fordi det endnu ikke er lykkedes for nogen at definere de udtryk, vi anvender.
What I, on behalf of my group, would like to remind this House is that there is a link between, on the one hand, the transfer which we have approved — the British rebate — and, on the other hand, the vote on the supplementary budget to be held in a few days' time.
I 1986 skal vi dække en milliard i forskud fra 1984, plus det, der ikke er dækket i 1985, da vi, efter hvad der siges, ikke kan holde stand, som sagerne står i øjeblikket, mere en ni eller ti måneder.
I believe it is important to remember that what Parliament has reached is a kind of 'gentlemen's agreement', and we hope that it will be respected.
Det vil altså sige, at der bliver en ny krise på to måneder og, hvis den dækkes på samme måde og med samme midler som i 1984, så vil vi i 1986 have to regnskabsår, der begge forsætligt er i underskud.
The supplementary budget is essential not only for European farmers but also — and this has not been sufficiently stressed in this House — for the operation of the ERDF, for that of the Social Fund, and for the general running of the Community.
Man må ikke love, hvad man ikke kan holde, og jeg mener, at Rådet har handlet forkert. Det er ikke ved at afvente 1986, hvor momssatsen skulle blive bragt op på 1,4%, at det vil lykkes os at fylde dette hul, da den 1,4% moms alle rede vil være nødvendig for at kunne bringe orden i de budgetter, der er forelagt os.
That being the case, we hope that the entourage of the British Prime Minister will not have another attack of anti-Europeanism in a fortnight's time.
Jeg hørte, at der blev sagt her til formiddag — men jeg ved ikke, om det er en fejltagelse — at vi får en nedskæring af indtægterne på grund af ændringer i toldsatserne eller måske endda på grund af, at nogle af dem falder bort.
There is certainly something odd going on: a sleight-of-hand has somehow made it possible for the Council to cover the deficit, estimated at approximately two thousand million ECU by the Commission, with contributions of just one thousand million from all the Member States.
Det vil gøre vort nuværende underskud endnu mere alvorligt.
How do they manage to increase resources without imposing new taxes or raising contributions?
For mig betyder budgetdisciplin, at vi fra starten skal have forelagt et budget for 1985, som afspejler en række grundlæggende sandheder. Det skal dække en 12 måneders periode.
We are now in a position to draw another parallel — just as dangerous a one — between the amending budget in its present form and the 1985 budget.
Tomlinson med en udvidelse af garantitærsklerne, kvoter og an dre indskrænkende foranstaltninger.
This constitutes a positive advantage to the Community.
Kongerige på 1 milliard ECU vedrørende 1984-bi-draget.
We musn't forget the real debt, however, which will exceed 500 million ECU in 1984, even if the Member States pay their contributions in time.
Det må helt klart fremgå, at alle disse ting er dækket.
There is thus no guarantee of receiving the money from the Member States.
Vi for kaster denne Eurodisciplin, der både ville være uret færdig over for landmændene, der i forvejen er så hårdt ramt, økonomisk absurd og politisk ulovlig, fordi den ville være en hån mod Parlamentets beføjelser og de regler, der er nedfældet i traktaten.
And it is incredibly annoying that, while the Council refuses even the insufficient appropriations for the integrated Mediterranean programmes, which have already been approved by the Commission and Parliament, it enters appropriations for a new financial protocol with Turkey, thus pandering to Evren's military regime, which we have all condemned.
Det må forhindres, at budgetdisciplinens skruestik lukker sig om landmændene og landbruget.
Frightened by the social crisis, the ruling classes are trying to protect their own inter ests.
Derfor slår jeg alarm, fru formand, og sender en advarsel til Fællesskabets myndigheder, især til Rådet, og advarer også landmændene mod de farer, der truer dem.
They agree on one thing: in the term 'financial discipline', which means disciplining the poor, at whose expense the rich are yet again to become richer.
Cot (S), formand for budgetudvalget. — (EN) Fru for mand, jeg vil gerne, nu da denne debat er ved at blive afsluttet, komme med nogle supplerende bemærkninger på budgetudvalgets vegne og samtidig føje nogle personlige bemærkninger til.
1985 doesn't appear to be much better: VAT will remain at 1% — until when we dont know — which means an even larger disparity between our commit ments and our resources.
Jeg mener, vi her i Parlamentet bør udvikle en positiv opfattelse af, hvad budgetdisciplin betyder, i ste det for blot at reagere på Rådets påstande om, hvad det betyder. Det står helt klart for mig, hvad jeg for står ved budgetdisciplin, og hvad jeg ikke forstår ved det.
Does anyone really think that those who are affected, like Greek, Italian, French and Irish farmers and European workers in general, will not react with all the means at their disposal in the name of our pro claimed principles?
Jeg forstår ikke ved det, at ordet skal fortolkes som udtryk for en slags europæisk monetarisme.
Is there anyone who does not understand that this discipline means a further worsen ing of the crisis?