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Formanden. — Kære kolleger, her til morgen fortalte jeg Dem om mit forslag til arbejdsplan på baggrund af Deres beslutning om at lade kommissær Andriessen, som jeg for øvrigt hilser velkommen, fremsætte sin redegørelse i begyndelsen af eftermiddagens møde.
President. — Ladies and gentlemen, I already spoke to you this morning about the organization of business in view of your decision to hear Mr Andriessen, whom I welcome, at the beginning of this afternoon's sitting.
Efter at have undersøgt sagen nærmere foreslår jeg Dem følgende endelige arbejdsplan:
After having looked into the question again, I propose the following definitive timetable:
Hvis denne tidsplan sprænges, ryger det hele i luften.
Are there any objections?
Derfor vil jeg gerne henlede Deres opmærksomhed på, at det er absolut nødvendigt — uafhængigt af de tvivlsomme beslutninger, Parlamentet har truffet — at vi i aften forhandler og stemmer om de integrerede middelhavsprogram mer.
What Latin America basically needs is a plan for economic recovery whereby countries can keep their foreign debts within the limits imposed by the development of their own economies, as the same time abandoning their inflationary policies. cies.
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The Commission could play an important part in such a plan aimed at stabilization and economic recovery.
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This is in stark contrast with the majority opinion in the Dooge report, which was submitted not long ago. . .
En echec som det foreliggende, netop på da gen for underskrivelsen af tiltrædelses aftalerne med Spanien og Portugal, giver stof til eftertanke om vore institutioners funktion...
Mr De Pasquale (COM). — (IT) Mr President, I did not understand very well whether, on the basis of what you proposed, we shall definitely be able to vote on the integrated Mediterranean progammes this evening.
Formanden. — Det er netop, hvad jeg foreslog, kære kolleger.
Moreover, what has happened is in my view totally at odds with all the recent statements concerning the need to improve decision making.
Jeg beder Dem tænke over, at vi har en dagsorden, der allerede er yderst overbebyrdet her i eftermiddag: vigtige debatter og lige så vigtige af stemninger.
Such a setback on the day when the accession agreements with Spain and Portugal were signed does indeed give food for thought as regards the functioning of our institutions. . . .
... nu da vi endelig har opnået udvidelsen.
. . . now that we have reached this stage of enlarge ment.
Jeg vil ikke gå videre ind på de institutionelle og politiske aspekter i forbindelse med beslutningen om land brugspriserne.
I will not go any further into the institutional and political aspects of decisionmaking on farm prices.
Måske vil der senere under forhandlingerne være lejlighed til at komme ind på det.
Perhaps there will be an opportunity in the debate to return to this topic in further detail.
På grund af en ny situation besluttede Parlamentet at høre kommissær Andriessen, der er kommet hertil i begyndelsen af mødet.
I would ask you to bear in mind that this afternoon's agenda is already extremely full, with the important debates and equally important votes.
Alt hvad vi efter min mening kan gøre inden for rammerne af forretningsordenen, er at anvende artikel 40, som siger, at en redegørelse fra Kommissionen i princippet ikke bliver efterfulgt af en forhandling.
Owing to a new development, Parliament decided this morning to hear a statement by Mr Andriessen, who has been kind enough to join us, at the beginning of this afternoon's sitting.
Men medlemmerne kan inden for en periode på i alt 30 minutter stille spørgsmål.
I my view, all we can do under the Rules of Procedure is to apply Rule 40, according to which a Commission statement should not, in principle, be followed by a debate; however, Members may ask questions for a total of 30 minutes.
Det er de forretningsordensrammer, vi befinder os i.
That is the rule which applies to our present situation.
Jeg beder Dem tage dette til efterretning, kære kolleger, sådan at vi bagefter kan fortsætte med arbejdet, som vi blev enige om.
I would ask you, ladies and gentlemen, to accept this so that we can carry on our business as planned.
(Parlamentet erklærede sig enig heri)
(Parliament agreed to the proposal)
Landbrugspriserne (Redegørelse fra Kommissionen)
Farm prices (Commission statement)
Kommissionen gik med til at ændre sit oprindelige forslag om en prisnedsættelse for korn og raps fra 3,6% til det halve og lovede desuden foranstaltninger vedrørende betalingsterminerne, der ville nedbringe den reelle prisnedsættelse til under 1 %.
The Commission had, after all, reduced its original proposal for price cuts of 3.6% for cereals and rape by half and — I should add — announced measures for payment instalments which reduced the effective cut in prices to less than 1%.
Alt i alt blev der kun en skygge af det oprindelige forslag tilbage, og de ordninger om overskridelse af tærskelgarantien, som Rådet tidligere havde besluttet, og som Det eu ropæiske Råd i Stuttgart havde bekræftet, blev kun delvis gennemført.
What with one thing and another, our proposal was now reduced to merely a weak signal putting into practice only a fraction of the arrangements agreed earlier by Council and confirmed by the European Council in Stuttgart for cases where
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er re degørelse fra Kommissionen om landbrugspriserne for produktionsåret 1985-1986.
President. — The next item is the statement by the Commission on farm prices for the 1985/1986 market ing year.
Andriessen længe igen vil fungere, lidt moderniseret måske, men med en grundig tilpasning i fremtiden for øje.
Andriessen guarantee thresholds were exceeded.
Det betyder, at Kommissionen som en god familiefader må forvalte markederne, i håbet om at Rådet alligevel vil være i stand til at fastsætte de manglende landbrugspriser.
I am firmly convinced that, as there was no way of finding a truly acceptable compromise, postponing a decision would have led to even greater uncertainty with no prospect of a final decision in time.
Arndt (S). — (DE) Jeg vil gerne stille Kommissionen tre spørgsmål.
The subsequent debate on agricultural policy will take up a lot of time.
For det første har den altid sammen med Parlamentet støttet Italiens og Forbundsrepublikkens initiativ i retning af at nå frem til fornuftige institutionelle regler.
I hope, however, that it too will provide some pointers to enable the Council at least to unblock the prices dossier for 85/86.
Når så netop det ene lands rege ring anvender sin vetoret, betyder det så ikke et til bageskridt for de to regeringers, Kommissionens og Parlamentets hidtidige fælles forsøg på at nå frem til fornuftige ordninger og fremskridt i Europa?
In any event, after what has happened, the coming marketing year will be a year of transistion. There is namely no doubt in my mind — and I stress this — that the Euro­pean cereal arrangements require a further radical overhaul.
For det andet resulterer det nu nedlagte veto blot i uvirksomhed fra Rådets side.
This applies to the internal market, imports/exports and income support.
Derfor mit spørgsmål til Kommissionen : er denne uvirksomhed fra Rådets side som følge af det nedlagte veto ikke et brud på EØF-traktaten, som forlanger handling af Fællesskabet?
As soon as our green book is published, Mr President, Τ shall be travelling around with it or, as we say in Dutch, 'canvassing the farmers', in this instance both literally and figuratively.
Er det ikke er krænkelse af Europas og hver enkelt medlemsstats livsvigtige interesser?
The first leg in my journey is already settled: I am off to Baveria.
Er den med henblik på en landbrugsreform rede til i denne forbindelse hårdt og ubønhørligt at holde fast ved sin hidtidige position for i det mindste at afbøde de vær ste virkninger efter denne regerings nedlæggelse af veto?
I believe it is better that the Council has been formally declared to have failed, which means that the Com­mission should now assume its responsibility to ensure the continued operation of the Common Agricultural Policy
Det tjener jo ikke noget formål at give nogen bestemt skylden!
.... and to safeguard the financial interests of the Community.
Det, det i stedet kommer an på, er, hvordan vi kan føre Fællesskabet ud af denne krise.
The Commission has the responsibility and duty to apply, for example, safeguards to prevent speculative sales to intervention agencies and disturb­ances in trade.
Hr. Arndt har i sit spørgsmål ladet forstå, al for bundsregeringen har handlet imod sit eget krav om forbedring af beslutningssystemet.
However, I do not doubt that, after minor redecorations, the shop will reopen for business as usual, though with a view to future, more thorough renovation.
Drøftelserne om den fælles landbrugspolitiks nye perspektiver er faktisk allerede begyndt, endnu før vore option papers, der efter planerne skal offentliggøres i slutningen af indeværende måned el ler begyndelsen af næste måned foreligger. Forhandlingerne om landbrugspolitikken vil derefter tage en rum tid.
This means that the Commission will manage the mar­kets prudently in the hope that the Council will in the end be able to settle farm prices.
Men jeg håber, at forhandlingerne vil give Rådet nogle udgangspunkter, der i alt fald vil gøre det muligt at gennemføre prisfastsættelsen for 85-86.
Accordingly, the Commission will inform interested parties soon of the conditions governing intervention operations, imports and exports and related matters.
Ef ter det, der er sket, er den kommende salgssæson et overgangsår.
Mr Arndt (S). — (DE) I would like to ask the Com­mission three questions.
Der er ingen tvivl om — jeg siger det meget klart — at den europæiske kornordning trænger til mere indgribende tilpasninger.
Firstly, has it, together with Parliament, always supported the objective of Italy and the Federal Republic to establish sensible institu­tional rules?
Det gælder både for det interne marked, import- og eksportproblemerne og indkomststøtten.
Does not the use of the veto by one of these governments mean a setback for the joint efforts which have so far been made by both governments, the Commission and Parliament to draw up acceptable rules and achieve progress in Europe?
Kommissionen er rede til at fremme perspektivforhandlingerne om kornsektoren.
Secondly, the only result of the present veto is inaction on the part of the Council.
Hr. formand, så snart vor grønbog er fremkommet, vil jeg »drage landet rundt« med den, bogstaveligt og i overført betydning.
I therefore ask the Com­mission, is not the Council's inactivity as a result of the veto an infringement against the EEC Treaty, which requires action from the Community?
Og det første sted vil være Bayern.
Does it not con­flict with the vital interests of Europe and of each Member State?
Jeg vil gerne have et svar på dette fra Kommissionen.
Unlike the Council, the Commission is obliged to reach a decision on farm prices.
Dress svar, hr. Arndt, kender jeg allerede. Desværre er det indenrigs- og partipolitisk farvet.
Is the Commission prepared, in the interests of agricultural reform, to stand firmly and steadfastly by its postition in order to prevent at least the worst effects of the veto intro­duced by one of the governments?
Jeg vil heller ikke dramatisere det i landbrugspolitisk sammenhæng. Kommissionen vil passe forretningen.
These aspects were indeed also discussed in depth by a great many Mem­bers of the House during its last debate on farm prices.
Har Kommissionen desuden til hensigt at an lægge sag mod Rådet ved Domstolen?
This is an opportunity which we should grasp together.
Cervetti (COM). — (IT) Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne stille to spørgsmål til kommissæren, men først vil jeg gerne bemærke, at jeg fuldt ud kan støtte det, kom missæren har fortalt os i dag.
Mr Bocklet (PPE). — (DE) I feel that what matters now in this debate is not so much the dispute on the farm policy as how we can overcome the institutional crisis into which the Community has been brought by mistakes on all sides.
Lige meget hvad man mener om landbrugspriserne, er man her nødt til stærkt at kritisere den tyske regeringsholdning.
Mr Provan (ED). — Mr President, it is unfortunate, when a Member State has decided that a vital national issue is at stake, that it has failed to observe that there is also a vital European issue at stake.
Hr. Bocklet sagde, at man her forsvarede partiinteresser.
There is no point in making accusations!
Det er overhovedet ikke sket i forbindelse med forslagene til landbrugspriser. Derfor er det da et institutionelt problem mellem Kommissionen og Parlamentet!
Mr Arndt suggested in his question that the Federal German Government had acted in conflict with its own demand for an improvement in the decision-making process.
... og den har forsvaret dem mod hundredetusinder af landbrugsproducenter fra andre lande og mod — hvilke i mine øjne klart fremgik af kommissærens ord — Fællesskabets politiske interesser og mulighederne for en union.
However, it is a very sad occasion. I think back with a certain amount of approval to the Genscher-Colombo plan for greater European unity and I fail to see how this decision by one Member State government, namely, the government of the Federal Republic, has anything to do with European Union at the present time.
Hr. kommissær Andriessen sagde, at det var nødvendigt at gøre sig overvejelser vedrørende måden, hvor på vore institutioner fungerer. Jeg mener, at man bør støtte dette.
May I ask the Commissioner what will happen when Regulation 2727 runs out?
Jeg vil også tilføje til hr. Bocklet, at jeg i lyset af en ændring af institutionerne ikke kan begribe, hvorden den tyske regering har kunnet gøre brug af vetoretten.
Will he therefore, as Mr Arndt requested, stick to his original proposals? Furthermore, is he empowered under the Treaties to set a new market price himself if he is going to manage that market?
(Bifald fra forskellige pladser)
(Interruptions from the Socialist Group)
Og nu kommer jeg til de to spørgsmål : jeg vil gerne, hr. kommissær, at De udtrykker Dem mere præcist om de foranstaltninger, Kommissionen har til hensigt at træffe for at beskytte landbrugsproducenterne fra alle Fællesskabets lande.
For the rest, whatever one thinks about agricultural prices, the German government's attitude is unacceptable. able.
De sagde, at Kommissionen ville opføre sig som en god »familiefader«.
I am not interested in cheap rhetoric but in discussing real problems.
Jeg kunne her tænke mig, at De udtalte Dem mere eksplicit og mere klart om den holdning, denne »familefader« vil have i de kommende dage.
As far as the Commissioner, Mr Andriessen, has said, what has gone on here provides enough food for thought on the functioning of the institutions.
Må jeg spørge kommissæren om, hvad der vil ske, når forordning 2727 udløber?
Mr Bocklet maintained that it was a question of defending party interests.
Mener han ikke også, at dette er den vigtigste sektor, for så vidt angår land bruget? Det er ikke bare et spørgsmål om korn, for kvægsektoren er fuldt og helt afhængig af kornsektoren.
I should like to ask Mr Bocklet whether or not in this case the German government was defending not so much the interests of a particular poliltical party but rather those of a certain other interested party, small in number . . .
Vil han derfor, som hr. Arndt foreslog, holde sig til sine oprindelige forslag?
President Delors, when you began your term of office you promised Parliament solemnly that you would consider its wishes more than in the past.
Har han desuden ret til ifølge traktaten selv at fastsætte en ny markedspris, hvis han skal kunne overvåge dette marked?
This clearly did not happen with the farm price proposals.
Vi må huske på, at USA i øjeblikket er meget vred over den europæiske fælles landbrugspolitik.
That is surely an institutional problem for the Commission and Parliament!
Jeg mener, at vi bør spørge os — og jeg spørger Kommissionen — hvilken indflydelse dette nederlag vil få på topmødet i Milano.
Parliament and Commission must — and I think this is vital — combine their efforts and do all they can to improve the decision making process at the Milan summit in the way that
Men hvor er de virkelig ansvarlige?
regarded farm prices as a whole.
Hr. parlamentsformand, hvor er Rådet henne?
This may be a mistake, and I think an answer is called for.
Kommissionen kommer hertil, den er til ste de, men hvor er ministrene, hvor er de ansvarlige?
Mr Andriessen said that this raises certain questions regarding the way in which our institutions operate, and I think we must agree with him.
Det, der nu drejer sig om, et at finde ud af, hvordan man på Milanotopmødet kan rydde disse tvetydige holdninger af vejen, og hvordan man kan garantere en virkelig udvikling af den europæiske union.
Secondly, the Council takes the view that the Com mission is entering into commitments and that it should explain the reasoning behind them.
Vi ønsker naturligvis, at disse foranstaltninger vedtages, og at de alle vedtages; at der gives udtryk for en politisk vilje til at løse problemerne i forbindelse med de seneste dages begivenheder, med krisen og med Rå dets nederlag og til således at bane vejen for unionen. nen.
I put this question to the Council: following the press statement, which confirmed the decisions on farm prices for the other sectors and which says that the Commission will take the necessary measures in managing the agricul tural markets to avoid any supplementär/ or amending budgets for 1985, how can such a statement be made at a Council meeting when prices have still not been fixed in the cereals sector?
Hvis det ikke er tilfældet, skal det ikke sætte sine fødder her mere!
I shall gladly quote the Council's reply, even though it does not appear to know what reply to give.
Hvis det er tilfældet, burde Rådet have været til stede i dag.
It says it is up to the Commission itself to state how it intends to act in practice to adhere to this commitment.
Jeg vil spørge kommissæren, hvilket standpunkt Kommissionen vil indtage på dette område netop med henblik på at forsvare de generelle interesser, der åbner mulighed for den europæiske union.
For that reason, Commissioner, I would like a reply since the whole of European agriculture and the whole of the food industry are waiting, and I think it is time that a reply was given.
Musso (RDE). — (FR) Hr. formand, jeg lyttede med stor interesse til kommissær Andriessens indlæg for lidt siden, men før jeg stiller mit spørgsmål, vil jeg godt sige, at jeg er landmand, og at jeg tænker som en sådan.
Can you, Mr Andriessen, give us more details of the measures the Commission intends to adopt to protect agricultural producers throughout the Community.
Det er ikke nogen institutionel debat, vi har. Vi har haft en institutionel debat, vi vil få den igen, og vi vil tage de beslutninger, som vi mener bør tages, ligesom vi har gjort før i tiden!
You said that the Commission intends to take good care of the markets and I would be grateful if he would tell us more precisely what this will actually entail over the next few days.
Man må stille sig selv det spørgsmål, om det ikke er forkert således at have to kategorier for prisfastsættelse, for Kommissionen har altid tidligere ment, at landbrugspriserne udgjorde et hele.
As you put it, the European Council has reached deadlock and I think it would be in order to ask the Commission how it views the Milan Summit in the light of this deadlock.
Det er måske en grundlæggende fejl, og jeg tror, at det kræver et svar.
In recent months, the attitude of the German Government towards European Union has been complex and ambiguous to say the least.
Det undrer mig at høre visse nævne vetoretten og anklage andre lande for at bruge den, efter at de selv brugte den for blot et par år siden.
To turn to institutional matters, allow me, Mr President, to address Mr Bocklet.
Hvorom alting er, for nu at vende tilbage til den sag, der berører os, husker jeg, at der i dette Parlament viste sig et flertal for én generel prisforhøjelse på 3,5%.
It is too easy, in this House, to try to hold a German-style debate on res ponsibilities or the lack thereof.
Samtidig hæftede vi samansvarsbegrebet på, hvilket viste, at vi også tænkte på fremtiden og samtidig ønskede at sikre landmændene en vis indtægt.
Can the President of this House tell me, where is the Council?
Vi blev derfor ansvarlige, hr. kommissær, da vi accepterede samansvaret.
The Commission is present, but where are the Ministers, where are the ones who bear responsibility?
Det andet punkt er, at Rådet mener, at Kommissionen påtager sig forpligtelser, for hvilke den først bør præcisere grundlaget.
We must discover ways for the Milan Summit to deal with these ambiguous attitudes and guarantee real progress towards European Union.
Jeg stillede følgende spørgsmål til Rådet: i pressecommuniquet om beslutningerne på landbrutsprisområdet for de andre sektorer læser vi, at Kommissionen vil træffe de nødvendige foran staltninger ti at forvalte markederne for landbrugsprodukter for at undgå noget som helst tillægsbudget eller korrigerende budget for 1985, hvordan kan en sådan udtalelse falde under et nøde i Rådet, eftersom man stadig ikke har fastsat priserne på kornområdet?
We obviously hope that all these measures without exception will be adopted and that the Heads of State and Government will express a clear political will to surmount this recent event, the crisis and the deadlock in the Council so as to open up the road towards European Union.
Hvordan kan man vide, at noget sådant vil ske, og fremfor alt, hvad betyder »de nødvendige foranstaltninger til forvaltning af markederne«?
Before the Milan summit, I would ask you on behalf of Parliament to question the Council on whether it respects interaction between the institutions and whether it still thinks that a European Parliament exists.
Mit spørgsmål er følgende : Jeg vil godt have at vide, om Kommissionen har til hensigt at forhøje sit for slag for at imødekomme flertallets ønske her i Parlamentet. 1
Would the Commissioner tell us what approaches the Commission intends to adopt both on this question and with a view to defending the more general inter ests of European Union.
Det er derfor, jeg godt vil have Deres svar, hr. kom missær, for hele det europæiske landbrug og hele fødevaresektoren inden for landbruget venter nu på det, og jeg tror, at det er på tide at få det besvaret.
Mr Ducarme (L). — (FR) Mr President, I would like to ask two questions concerning agriculture and one concerning the institutions.
Nu angående det institutionelle punkt, tillad mig da, hr. formand, at jeg vender mig mod hr. Bocklet.
Mr Musso (RDE). — (FR) Mr President, I listened with great interest to what the Commissioner, Mr Andriessen, had to say just now, but before putting my question I would point out that I am a farmer and that I speak from a farmer's point of view.
Her står jeg og stiller spørgsmål til Kommissionen og reg
We have already held such a debate and shall do so again, and we shall take the decisions which we feel are needed, as we have done in the past.
Graefe zu Baringdorf (ARC). — (DE) Hr. formand, lad mig kimme med en indledende bemærkning.
With regard to agriculture, some people already feel that the Commission made a serious mistake in agree ing to treat cereals separately from almost all other sectors in fixing farm prices.
Den tyske delegations holdning på dette punkt er også uforståelig for mig, for i mine øjne har forbundsregeringen ikke udarbejdet et fornuftigt modforlsag.
We should consider, however, whether it was right to establish two categories for price fixing, since the Commission has always
kunne følge med — medens de andre går i retning af en endnu mere intensiv drift.
This sector would not be affected by a price cut; in fact, this would drive them to even more intensive use of chemicals.
Derigennem skades kvaliteten af vore næringsmidler stadig i betydeligt omfang.
The result of this is a lasting deterioration in the quality of our food.
Tillad mig at stille nogle spørgsmål til Kommissionen.
Mr Graefe zu Baringdorf (ARC). — (DE) Mr President, allow me to make a preliminary remark.
Har De et andet forslag?
Have you any other ideas?