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Jeg kunne sige mere om dette emne.
This is not a matter which can fruitfully be discussed in the framework of European political cooperation, in view of existing agreements.
At forsøge at give Dem indsættelsen — vi kan uden tvivl godkende Deres program — men at forsøge at give Dem indsættelsen, at forpligte Dem til at give os lovgivende magt, hvad svarer det til, hr. formand, og hvad fører det til?
Mr Moreland. — I trust that the Foreign Minister realizes that Berlin is part of the Community — it is, indeed, very much part of the Community and there fore of interest to us.
Det er en dårlig tjeneste, man gør Dem, og det vil vi selv følgelig ikke tilslutte os.
Does he not agree in that context that the aim behind the Russians' insistence in holding Rudolph Hess at Spandau Prison for 40 years is in fact to maintain a presence in Berlin and, I emphasize, in the Community?
Det som vi kan tilslutte os, hr. formand, det er den bestræbelse, som De har opridset, på at forsøge at gengive dette Europa chancen for at bevæge sig frem ad fremskridtets vej.
Therefore it should be of interest to him, and his foreign ministers should give full support to the governments of France and the United Kingdom.
Europa må under ingen omstændigheder, hvis det da ikke lige er på kort sigt på det monetære område, blive et hjælpekontor nationerne imellem.
I welcome the reply given by the President-in-Office, which is exactly in line with his reply to my question on the situation of Berlin, and I am glad he has made the situation with regard to Rudolf Hess clear.
Europa skal være udtrykket for en fælles vilje til at gøre tingene sammen, hvilket er noget helt andet.
Shame upon those who, in this House, dare to talk about human rights, when the person involved is a criminal.
Det er den eneste måde at få fremskridt på. Man kan kun redde dette Europa ved at gå fremad. Hr. formand Thorn, den konvergens, som vi har talt så meget om, og som man nok igen vil tale til os om, er en fremgangsmåde, der ikke giver resultater.
Mr Van der Klaauw. — (NL) In principle, of course, it is always important to give support to any Member State, and we shall always do so, but in this case there is nothing for which European political cooperation is responsible, as I have already said.
FORSÆDE: HANS KATZER Næstformand
(Applause from certain quarters on the left)
Formanden. — Efter hr. Skovmand er der tre der har bedt om ordet.
Mrs Lizin. — (F) Will the President of this House ensure that, for each victim of Rudolf Hess, as much time is devoted to considering any emotional problems they may have?
Da vi imidlertid skal igang med spørgetiden, vil jeg foreslå, vi udskyder de tre indlæg til behandlingen af anmodninger orh uopsættelig forhandling i morgen.
Mr Habsburg. — (D) Now that the Community has discussed a wide range of questions concerning human rights, and since the case of Rudolf Hess is undoubtedly no longer a matter of politics but rather one of humanity and mercy, is it not time for the Community to say something about this case of human rights as well, as it is something which is of direct concern to us?
Hvis der ikke er nogen indvendinger betragter jeg forslaget som vedtaget.
(Applause from various quarters in the centre and on the right)
Hr. Skovmand har ordet.
(Mixed reactions)
Men De skal vide, hr formand, at ingen voldshandling, ingen institutionel manøvre, vil give Dem de økonomiske midler forud for denne enighed om den politik, der skal føres.
I still maintain that this is a matter for the four powers, who are primarily responsible for it on the basis of existing agreements.
Vi er blevet en handelsmæssig gigant. Det sagde De, og De har ret.
(Interruption by Mr Paisley: 'Your country helped Hitler in the last war?')
Men vi er en magtesløs handelsmæssig gigant, uden forsvar mod de aggressioner der stadig bliver flere af i den verden i økonomisk krig, som vi kender.
Mr Marshall. — Mr President, would the President-in-Office of the Council not agree that the continued incarceration of this poor old man is little short of an international scandal?
Og dette kan ikke fortsætte hr. formand. Også der gælder det harmonien på markederne, Europas troværdighed, over for arbejdsløsheden, der er vokset enormt.
And would he not agree that this Community, which expresses its views on human rights is East Germany and other Eastern bloc coun-
Skovmand syvende og sidst er de små landes eneste beskyttelse i EF.
Van der Klaauw happened in the Second World War is not to be found in the conflict itself, but in the system then obtaining in Germany — a country which has fortunately now changed completely and is a valuable partner.
Hr. Thorn udtrykte forundring over, at så mange var utilfredse med EF. Måske tænkte han bl. a. på den sidste danske gallupundersøgelse, der viste, at 48% af de danske vælgere ville ud af EF, mens kun 33 % ville blive i EF.
In particular, I would draw your attention to that part of the letter which lays down that, in general, the rules governing political cooperation do not allow for an answer to be given to questions involving the individual policy of one or more Member States.
Jeg beklager, men jeg har på nuværende tidspunkt intet at føje til de svar, jeg alle rede har givet.
Could you please confirm that the legal position is that, while Community legislation applies to Berlin, Berlin is not a Member State of the Community since it does not form part of the Federal Republic of Germany?
Jeg skal prøve at forklare hr. Thorn, hvorfor utilfredsheden i Danmark er så stor.
-Mrs Macciocchi. — (F) In the January partsession we debated the situation in Uruguay.
Siden Danmark blev medlem af EF, har den danske befolkning oplevet en stadig forringelse af sine vilkår.
Can the President-in-Office tell us whether it is true that Dr Mengele is a technical adviser in the Libertad prison in Uruguay, where he is known by the name of Willy Larr?
Først og fremmest en meget stor arbejdsløshed.
I have received this information from reliable
Jeg skal ikke gå i detaljer med hensyn til, hvorfor det er gået sådan, det tillader tiden ikke, men jeg kan sige, at det gør et stærkt indtryk, at de andre nordiske lande. Sverige, Norge og Finland klarer sig langt bedre. De meldte sig som bekendt ikke ind i EF.
Mr Berkhouwer. — (NL) That makes my supplementary very easy, since I can then ask: Is there no opinion on this subject within the Council as such or within the European Council of the — now — Ten?
Samtidig oplever man i Danmark, at EF på en lang række områder blander sig i danske forhold og hindrer regeringen i at gøre en indsats mod den store arbejdsløshed. Jeg skal bare nævne et enkelt eksempel.
If the President-in-Office cannot speak on behalf of one of the Ten — and I appreciate that he cannot speak on behalf of Greece — he can nevertheless somehow perhaps manage to speak on behalf of the Ten.
For blot en måned siden forlangte man, at den regionale støtte til et område med stor arbejdsløshed blev indstillet.
I hope the President-in-Office will say something this time instead of just fobbing me off again.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er anden del af spørgetiden (dok. 1-842/80).
President. — I must interrupt you.
Spørgsmål nr. 92 af Paisley (H-633/80):
Mr Van der Klaauw. — (NL) This matter has not been discussed within the framework of European political cooperation.
På italiensk ville man sige: hvad fanden laver Katzer egentlig?!
There have, however, been individual contacts.
Hvilke fremskridt er der sket med henblik på udarbejdelsen af fælles udleveringsregler i Fællesskabet?
Mr Marshall. — Can the President-in-Office of the Council tell us how, if it is not going to be able to persuade Greece, a Member State of this Community, to normalize relations with Israel, it expects to be able to persuade the PLO to recognize Israel, as was hinted at and suggested in the ill-fated Venice Declaration?
Formanden. — Hr. Pannella, De har ikke længere ordet.
Mr Van Minnen. — (NL) Mr President, I am very glad the President-in-Office stressed that the case of Rudolf Hess was of particular symbolic importance.
Jeg er gået frem helt i overensstemmelse med forretningsordenen. Der står: »Opråb i spørgetiden«, det har De selv været med til at vedtage.
Does the President-in-Office therefore not feel that, quite apart from legal or political considerations, his release should be refused on moral grounds?
Van der Klaauw, formand for Rådet af udenrigsministre. — (ne.)
Mr Van der Klaauw — (NL) It is naturally generally desirable for the Member States to maintain diplomatic relations with those countries with which the Community and the foreign ministers meeting in political cooperation are frequently concerned.
Må jeg yderligere have lov til at spørge, om der er noget, denne forsamling eller Kommissionen eller Rådet kan gøre for at gennemtvinge en udlevering af de 500 mænd som hr. Paisley lod paradere i Antrimbjergene under stor offentlig opmærksomhed for kun ganske få dage siden? Måske han selv kunne tænke sig at svare på det.
Mr Van der Klaauw. — (NL) Mr President, in view of what I have already said, and since this matter has not been discussed under European political cooperation, I do not feel that this is an appropriate place to express an opinion on this very delicate question.
Er ministeren også klar over, at der er sket 60 mord i Fermanagh amt, og at alle morderne på nær én befinder sig i sikkerhed i Den irske Republik?
If so, are they prepared to take initiatives to bring about this normalization?
Og vil han oplyse Parlamentet om, hvornår den engelske udenrigsminister sidst har rejst spørgsmålet om udlevering i Ministerrådet?
Mr Van der Klaauw. — (NL) I think that my previous reply answers this question.
(Bifald fra forskellige pladser i midten og til højre)
President. — I must rule you out of order, since you should be putting a short supplementary.
Jeg vil gerne have lov at påpege, at min nordiske ven, hr. Paisley, benytter sig af mulighederne for at stille spørgsmål her i Parlamentet, og holde meget lange taler, men som den eneste gejstlige her i Parlamentet forholdt han sig meget, meget stille, da der blev bragt moralske spørgsmål på bane her til morgen.
In view of the confusion in Question Time of the last session (Wednesday, 17 December), when the President-in-Office ruled that questions tabled for answer were inadmissible, would he now explain which ques tions to the Foreign Ministers cannot be answered by the Foreign Ministers?
Jeg holder fast ved, at dette anliggende er de fire stormagters ansvar på grund af de indgåede aftaler.
Do you not also think that, after this Question Time and in view of Parliament's interest in the matter, you should next time discuss the matter with your Greek colleague in your capacity as spokesman for the foreign ministers, so that this question can finally be settled?
Jeg tror, det er rigtigt at gøre opmærksom på, at vi taler om det europæiske politiske samarbejde og ikke om Rådet for De euro pæiske Fællesskaber.
At the moment we have relations at chargé d'affaires level — in other words we have defacto but not de jure relations — and our relations are making continual progress.
I Rådet for det europæiske politiske samarbejde er der ikke talt om regeringernes individuelle standpunkter.
Our cooperation is improving greatly, and as you know, Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, relations in the Middle East are a delicate matter.
Formanden. — Næste spørgsmål er nr. 93 af Moreland (H-641/80):
Mr Van der Klaauw, President-in-Office of the Foreign Ministers. — (NL) I would again remind you of the letter of 10 May 1976 from Mr Thorn, the then Luxembourg Foreign Minister, to Mr Spénale, the then President of the European Parliament, on the subject of parliamentary questions.
Og mener han ikke også, at når Fælles skabet udtrykker sine'synspunkter om menneskeret tighederne i Østtyskland og andre Østbloklande, så bør det også udtrykke en mening om borgerlige og politiske rettigheder i Vesttyskland og andre lande inden for Fællesskabet?
In accord ance with the Luxembourg and Copenhagen reports, cooperation on foreign policy is in fact totally subject to the rule requiring the agreement of all the Member States.
Og endelig, hvornår går det op for ministeren, at »barmhjertighedens væsen er ej tvang«?
It is also possible that the need for maximum confidentiality prevents detailed replies being given on a particular question in open sitting.
Går udenrigsministrene ind for, at Rudolf Hess frigives fra Spandau-fængslet, og vil de lægge pres på USSRs regering for at opnå denne frigivelse?
In this context, I would also remind you — and I again quote Mr Thorn — that the quarterly meetings with the Political Affairs Committee provide an opportunity to deal in all openness with questions which could not be discussed in plenary session.
Van der KJaauw, formand for Rådet af udenrigsministre. — (ne.)
Mr Blumenfeld. — (D) May I ask the President-in-Office of the Foreign Ministers whether he can give us a more substantial reply in his capacity as President of the Council of Ministers.
Emnet er ikke et anliggende, der, som led i det euro pæiske politiske samarbejde, kan behandles med udbytte på grund af de aftaler, der blev indgået dengang.
That is what Mr Thorn's letter says, and the contents of that letter remain fully valid.
Er han i denne forbindelse ikke også af den opfattelse, at russernes insisteren på at beholde Rudolf Hess i Spandau-fængslet i 40 år i virkeligheden skyldes, at de ønsker at opretholde en tilstedeværelse i Berlin, og, vil jeg gerne understrege, inden for Fællesskabet?
I welcome what has been said about the development of relations between Greece and Israel. As I said before, it is undoubtedly very important for Member States to have normal and good relations with those countries with which we frequently have economic and political contacts.
Derfor bør problemet interessere ham, og han og de øvrige udenrigsministre burde fuldt ud støtte den franske og den engelske regering.
I can assure you, Mr President, that if there is anyone aware of this at this moment, it is I myself, in view of the task I have undertaken with regard to the Middle East.
Jeg håber, at de vil skamme sig, de, der i denne forsam ling har vovet at tale om menneskerettigheder, når det drejer sig om en forbryder, det må blive deres ansvar, men jeg takker ministeren, fordi han har præciseret, at dette spørgsmål ikke henhører under Fællesskabernes kompetence.
Perhaps he would like to clarify the situation in writing so that Members do not waste their time putting down questions and coming to Question Time when the President-in-Office finds himself unable to answer them.
(Bifald fra forskellige pladser til venstre)
(Applause from certain quarters)
På grund af de traktater, der er underskrevet, henhører dette spørgsmål under de fire magters kompetence, der først og fremmest er ansvarlige for Berlin, hvad de individuelle ministres opfattelse end er på dette punkt.
There is Mr Berkhouwer's question, but there is also the motion for a resolution which I shall be tabling on the same subject — diplomatic relations between Greece and Israel.
Formanden. — Nu følger spørgsmål nr. 94 af Berkhouwer (H-659/80):
This may happen in the long run — I sincerely hope so — but it is not the case at the moment.
Er ministeren ikke enig med mig om, at en konflikt som sidste verdenskrig frembringer en masse forbrydere, og at den eneste forskel på hr. Hess og en del af de mange andre forbrydere er, at hans parti tabte, medens de andre vant?
Why is it that we have to waste our time by putting them down and then being told they cannot be answered? Surely the President's office, in association with the Council, should discuss the matter to see whether these questions are in order for an answer.
Mener ministeren ikke også, at siden Fællesskabet har haft travlt med at kommentere forskellige situationer over hele verden, så bør EØF stå sammen i denne ene sag, der drejer sig om barmhjertighed mod et enkelt menneske, og sørge for, at der nu bliver vist ham barmhjertighed?
Mr Albers. — (NL) Mr President, in view of this practice of not being able to give any answer, is it not particularly desirable for you to stick to what the agenda says, i.e. half an hour to be spent on this rather sterile affair and one hour on questions to the Council?
(Afbrydelse fra hr. Paisley: »Hjalp dit land Hitler under sidste krig ?«)
President. — Thank you for pointing that out.
Jeg er fuldstændig uenig med det ærede medlem!
I am speaking in my capacity as President of the Foreign Ministers meeting in Political Cooperation.
Årsagen til, hvad der foregik under anden verdenskrig bundede ikke i konflikten, men i det daværende Tysklands regeringssystem.
Mr Howell. — I think this is one of the more impor tant questions which we have put down for Question Time.
Heldigvis er landet nu et helt andet og en god partner for os alle.
It raises the whole issue of the purpose of Ques tion Time in this House.
Jeg beklager derfor, hr. formand, ikke at kunne svare på dette spørgsmål.
This European political cooperation does not lay down a single binding obligation for any Member State.
Vil De være så venlig at forsikre mig om, at følgende retstilstand gælder, nemlig at bestemmelserne i Det europæiske Fællesskab ganske vist gælder i Berlin, men at Berlin ikke er medlem af Det europæiske Fællesskab, fordi det ikke er en del af Forbundsrepublikken Tyskland?
I have great respect for the problems of confidentiality which he deals with in his answer, and equally for the problems which he faces when considering what discussions have already taken place and what discussions have not; but I am becoming increasingly confused about the role he actually plays.
Jeg spørger derfor nu: Har ministerrådet eller Det europæiske Råd af de nuværende Ti ikke gjort sig nogle tanker om dette spørgmål?
My view is that they are of use, perhaps not at this particular moment, but with an eye to the future.
Hvad synes de nuværende Ti om det?
It is possible to put these questions, and no minister is going to censor them.
Hvis ministeren ikke kan tale på vegne af én af de Ti — jeg forstår at han ikke kan tale på Grækenlands vegne — så kan han måske alligevel på en eller anden måde tale på de Tis vegne.
Nevertheless I think that your questions are useful with an eye to the future, since they make clear to the ministers the problems in which Parliament is interested.
Hvad et det de Ti mener om denne sag?
To that extent this is a good thing.
Van der Klaauw. — Som led i det europæiske politiske samarbejde har denne sag ikke været drøftet. Individuelt har man snakket om den.
The questions thus land on our desk, and we use them as a basis for our continuing efforts to make progress on our Community political attitudes, which are of such great importance for our cooperation in the Community.
Kan formanden for Ministerrådet fortælle os om det er rigtigt, at doktor Mengele er teknisk rådgiver ved Libertad-fængslet i Uruguay, hvor han skal virke under navnet Willy Larr.
May I ask the present President-in-Office whether he is indeed refusing to answer, or whether the Council of Ministers is telling the Parliament that it is none of our business?
Jeg kan ikke give tilladelse til dette tillægsspørgsmål; spørgsmålet vedrører ikke emnet.
President. — We come now to the questions to the Council of the European Communities.
Jeg vil gerne spørge ham, om ikke også han mener, at en frigivelse af Rudolf Hess ville slippe heftige følelser løs blandt det tredje riges ofre, at frigivelse af Rudolf Hess ville kræve nye ofre blandt mennesker, der psykisk ikke ville kunne tåle en frigivelse, og mener ministeren ikke, at frigivelsen derfor bør nægtes af etiske, og ikke af juridiske eller politiske grunde?
Mr Hutton. — Would the President-in-Office not agree with me that this half-hour of Question Time is no more than a cosmetic sham to allow the Council of Ministers to pretend that it does serve the Parliament, and may, I repeat Ms Clwyd's question to him, whether he will not give us in writing some guidelines as to the questions which we can ask and which he will answer?
Jeg tror allerede i mit foregående svar at have meddelt, hvad svaret er på dette spørgsmål.
appropriate proposals from the Commission on these lines?
Hvad mig angår, vil jeg gerne tage forbehold over for resolutionen, selv om jeg er medunderskriver af den, hvad der måske vil forekomme Dem noget overraskende.
He says that he welcomes my comments — and I think they were fairly detailed — but he nevertheless finds them disappointing because too little is happening outside the area of agriculture as such.
Jeg mener, at hvis man kan udtrykke et ønske . . .
This brings me to what I. said was a misunderstanding.
Formanden. — De gør Dem skyldig i en procedure fejl; her må man kun stille korte supplerende spørgsmål!
Part of my reply was' to the effect that there were three pilot projects under study, arid that these three projects involved extraagricultural measures.
Mener De ikke også, at De efter denne spørgetid og efter Parlamentets anmodning i Deres egenskab af repræsentant for udenrigsministrene næste gang burde drøfte dette spørgsmål med Deres græske kolleger, for at dette problem endelig kan blive løst?
The ceiling on the compensatory allowances provided for by this Directive has recently been increased to 97 ECU.
De begår en fejl mod forretningsordenen: det drejer sig her om et kort supplerende spørgsmål!
Secondly, I would point out to the Honourable Member that, to improve employment opportunities in structurally weak areas, the Community can offer aid not only from the Regional Fund, as he knows, but also from the Social Fund.
På baggrund af den forvirring, der prægede spørgetiden under sidste mødeperiode (onsdag den 17. december), hvor den fungerende formand fastslog, at visse spørgsmål til spørgetiden ikke kunne stilles, kan man da nu gøre rede for, hvilke spørgsmål til udenrigsministrene, der ikke kan besvares af udenrigsministrene?
Furthermore, in the framework of an overall review of the Community's agricultural structures policy, the Council is currently studying other proposals designed ¿Mier alia to introduce greater flexibility into the conditions for access to farm development plans, which should also encourage investment in the modernization of farms in sparsely populated rural areas.
Naturligvis eksisterer der et problem, for så vidt angår det diplomatiske samarbejde.
This does not mean that the action will have to be restricted to these three regions.
For øjeblikket har vi forbindelser på chargé d'affairesniveau, det vil sige, at vi har »de facto«-forbindelser, men ikke »de jure«-forbindelser — og vore forbindelser er i stadig udvikling.
On the contrary, if experience in these three areas is positive, it is not impossible that the measures will be extended to other areas.
Der er stor fremgang i vort samarbejde, og, som De ved, hr. formand og ærede kolleger, er forbindelserne i Mellemøsten meget delikate.
Finally, the Council is in the process of studying three pilot projects for integrated development programmes in three sparsely populated areas, namely the Western Isles of Scotland, the French department of Lozère and the Belgian province of Luxembourg.
Men vi gør fremskridt, og jeg håber, eftersom det drejer sig om et spørgsmål om politisk samarbejde, at også Grækenlands »de jure«-forbin-delser med Israel snart vil blive genoprettede.
These programmes cover a series of agricultural measures together with simultaneous implementation of extraagricultural measures and involve the combined use of various Community financial instruments.
Når alt kommer til alt er der her ikke kun tale om spørgsmål i forbindelse med det europæiske politiske samarbejde, men også om samarbejdsspørgsmål og om fællesskabsretlige forpligtelser, og de givne svar har hidtil været utilfredsstillende.
Mr Kellett-Bowman. — I should like to thank the President-in-Office for the sympathetic tone of his replies to this question, but I wonder if he would not be prepared to consider taking all the areas listed in the Less-Favoured Areas Directive and making them eligible for regional funding?