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Denne ændring skal berolige dem, der er bange for, at der vil ske en voldsom udvandring af apotekere til de medlemsstater, i hvilke det uden videre er muligt at åbne nye apoteker, og dermed en forrykkelse af balancen. Kommissionen anser denne frygt for over dreven.
In practice, conferring the right of establishment untrammelled would be likely to mean that pharmacists from Member States where there is a geographical distribution system could set up in those where there is not, but there would be no flow or very little flow in the opposite direction.
Erfaringerne viser, at bevægeligheden inden for de frie erhverv er et fænomen, der kun gælder nogle få tilfælde, og som også fremover vil være begrænset hertil.
I would like to pay tribute to the rapporteur, Mr Malangré, for his very patient and careful approach throughout the committee's deliberations in realizing this compromise.
Om vore opfattelser og iagttagelser er rigtige, vil den faktiske udvikling fremover ganske vist først vise.
The solution advanced would deal with the problem on the basis that half a loaf is better than none.
Kommissionen forstår derfor retsudvalgets frygt uden som sagt at dele den fuldt ud.
We can secure harmonization of qualifications, which would mean freedom to provide services.
Da sikringsforslaget dog kvantitativt har begrænsede virkninger — sammen lignet med antallet af tilfælde med salg af allerede bestående apoteker åbnes der i medlemsstaterne nemlig kun få nye apoteker — har Kommissionen besluttet at gå ind for denne ændring.
However, as far as freedom of establishment is concerned, we can only go part of the way, because it would be open to one Member State to refuse to recog nize the qualification of a pharmicist who came from another Member State if he was intending to open a new pharmacy.
Den vil i henhold til artikel 149 stk. 2 i Traktaten forelægge et tilsvarende ændret direktivforslag for Rådet.
Mr Prag's amendments close a further loophole there by defining what would be a new pharmacy. macy.
Er det virkelig en nødvendig eller endog uomgængelig forudsætning for at gennemføre gensidig aner kendelse af eksamensbeviser, at der sker en harmoni sering af medlemsstaternes bestemmelser om vilkårene for udøvelse af apotekererhvervet og især bestemmelserne om den geografiske fordeling af apotekerne? Efter Kommissionens mening må dette spørgsmål besvares med nej.
Now, I am conscious of the fact that a number of amendments to cover the objections of the Irish EEC pharmacy group have been submitted by my colleague Mr Clinton, and I was a little disappointed to hear Mr Malangré saying that he did not think he could accept any of those amendments, despite the fact that my reading of one of them is that it is similar to the Prag amendment which Mr Malangré is willing to accept.
Endvidere ville e sådan harmonisering kun være vanskelig at gennemføre, fordi en koordinering af bestemmelserne om den lokale fordeling af apotekerne ville berøre hele sundhedspolitikken of salget af lægemidler i medlemsstaterne og også nødvendigvis måtte ændre dem. Dermed ville
But I certainly will be fully supporting the Clinton amendments, and I would appeal to all Members of the House, no matter how fruitless the appeal would appear to be at this stage, in the inter ests of the health and well-being of our population at home, in my island anyway, to support the amend ments of Mr Clinton and Mr Prag.
På samme måde kan Kommissionen stemme for hr. Prags ændringsforslag.
I congratulate the pharmacists on being, I think, the sixth profession to have achieved this free movement, at least in part.
For at udelukke misbrug fore slår han, at nye offentlige apoteker ikke betragtes som »bestående apoteker«, der kan overtages af en tilvandret apoteker.
I would like to conclude by saying more generally that I do hope the Commission will press on with all possible speed with its harmonization programme for professional qualifications.
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It is unfair to the young.
Formanden. — Næste punkt på dagsordenen er betænkning (dok.
Prag subsequently withdrawn in 1972.
1-465/83) af von Alemann for transportudvalget over forslag fra ikke i nogen medlemsstat bestemmelser, som begrænser en apotekers mulighed for at etablere sig som selvstændig apoteker ved at købe et eksisterende apotek.
Whereas the first proposals were aimed at introducing standard regulations governing pharmacists throughout the Community, the present proposals should certainly be more in keeping with the current state of integration in the Community.
Til bemærkningerne om de af hr. Prag foreslåede frister vil jeg gerne tilføje, at jeg med tilfredshed har noteret mig bemærkningerne fra hr. Sieglerschmidt, hr. Malangré og hr. Prag om muligheden for eventuelt at forlænge fristen.
Those which do regard pharmacies as a public service and provide a degree of protection against the establishment of new pharmacies ; the other five do not.
Vi vil på ny undersøge dette i alle enkeltheder og om nødvendigt som følge af deres opfordring føle os opmuntret at forlænge fristen hvis om det skulle blive nødvendigt.
It is important that freedom of establishment should not result in the setting up of a rash of new pharmacies, for small expert pharmacies in several Member States are already suffering heavily from the establishment of large chainstore pharmacies selling such a wide range of goods that they are more like department stores than pharmacies and do not provide that personal service characteristic of the small pharmacy.
Hele historien er lang varig, og man undrer sig over, hvorfor det ikke blev gjort allerede for mange år siden, når man ved, at det første direktiv om udarbejdelse af fælles regler for visse former for transport inden for godstransporten mellem medlemsstaterne blev vedtaget i 1962 med to bilag, som stadig gælder i dag i hvert fald i en lidt ændret form.
The Chairman of the Legal Affairs Committee, Mrs Veil, made the very apposite point during the discussions in committee that Community law is subsidiary to national legislation and that, in consequence, the legislation in the various Member States should only be harmonized and aligned to the extent necessary for the attainment of the objectives set out in the Treaty.
Det er det økonomiske aspekt ved en effektiv forsyning med lægemidler ...
They define new pharmacies as those which have been open for less than two years.
Det mente jeg med at tale om de kommercielle forudsætninger.
I also hope that the Commission will accept them.
I bilag I hed det, at visse former for transport skal fritages for enhver ordning med kontingentering og tilladelser, og visse andre transporter, som blev nævnt i bilag II, ligeledes ikke må underkastes nogen kontingentering, men fortsat kan være undergivet en ordning med tilladelser.
Is harmonization of national regulations concerning the practising of pharmacy, particularly those relating to the geographical distribution of pharmacies, really a necessary, not to say essential, precondition for the mutual recognition of diplomas ? As the Commission sees it, the answer is 'no'.
Det er det, det drejer sig om i dag, for denne ordning med tilladelser og formularen hertil blev så senere behandlet i et direktiv fra 1965, hvori disse to forskellige formularer, som var grundlaget for tildeling af tilladelsen, var afbildet.
Each Member State must be able to maintain its regulations governing the distribution of medicines, but immigrant members of the profession must be able to practice under the same conditions as the nationals of the State in question.
Der er her tale om et fællesskabsproblem. Jeg anser det i længden for at være uforeneligt med Fællesskabets påbud om solidaritet, når lægemidler i en medlemsstat på grund af offentlig prisregulering sættes meget lavt, hvorefter forsknings- og udviklingsomkostningerne alene må betales af befolkningen og socialforsikringssystemerne i andre medlemsstater.
Mr Narjes, Member of the Commission. — (DE) I should like to begin by thanking the rapporteur for the objectivity, prudence, tenacity and constructive approach with which he has tackled this difficult subject together with his colleagues in the Legal Affairs Committee.
Dette kunne meget nemt give anledning til at man underbyder hinanden på bekostning af de syge.
I am very pleased that this matter can be settled objectively and without regard to intraand inter-party conflicts.
Jeg har allerede sagt, at det drejede sig om multilaterale tilladelser for flyttegods. Disse multilaterale tilladelser ville teoretisk allerede være mulige i dag i henhold til det første direktiv.
The proposals before Parliament this evening are among those rare measures which involve giving the citizens of Europe tangible advantages of Community membership in the form of new rights enabling them to practice their professions throughout the Community.
Ganske vist har det i praksis været således, at der vel egentlig altid har eksisteret bilaterale tilladelser.
These proposals supplement the existing set of directives concerning the mutual recognition of diplomas in most other areas of the health system.
Hr. formand, jeg vil gerne takke for denne forhandling og endnu engang sige til retsudvalget, hvor glade vi er over, at dette vanskelige emne kunne behandles endnu i denne mødeperiode.
This fundamental question, which the rapporteur also returned to in his introductory remarks, was dealt with in depth by the Legal Affairs Committee, for which I am grateful.
Formanden. — Forhandlingen er afsluttet.
The mutual recognition of diplomas is not only a political matter — it is also very much a longterm affair.
Man kan forestille sig, at det fører problemer med sig.
I should like to remind you, if I may, that work was first started on the question of pharmacists at expert level in 1964/65, i.e. some 19 years ago.
For nu at ændre dette havde Kommissionen alle rede i 1980 foreslået, at alle de i bilag II til det første direktiv fra 1962 nævnte befordringer kunne få multi laterale tilladelser.
Thus there is a long history behind the current Commission proposals, to which I am glad to say the rapporteur, Mr Malangré devoted particular attention in his report.
Ganske vist trak Kommissionen senere på ny dette forslag tilbage, som Europa-Parlamentet havde vedtaget i en procedure uden betænkning.
I can go along with the observation to the effect that the current Commission proposals are certainly less ambitious that those tabled in 1969 and
Afstemningen vil finde sted i næste afstemningstid.
However, while sharing the Commission's views on this basic question, the Legal Affairs Committee has amended the proposals in such a way as to enable the Member
15.9.83 von Alemann som jeg oprindelig havde for, nemlig at ændre det første direktiv, således at flyttegods tages ud af bilag II, og at det også siges endnu engang ganske tydeligt i ændringen af direktivet fra 1965, som vi egentlig skulle træffe afgørelse om.
States to exclude the establishment of new pharmacies from the scope of the provisions concerning the mutual recognition of diplomas in pharmacy.
Vi bliver dog kun spurgt om direktivet fra 1965, hvorfor at jeg så mig nødsaget til på grund af denne noget besynderlige fremgangsmåde at meddele udvalget, at hele proceduren efter min mening kunne skabe præcedens for andre transport former, hvis ikke der blev foretaget en ændring af direktivet, det første direktiv fra 1962, og at det under alle omstændigheder virkelig ville skabe præcedens, og derfor sagde jeg: Det går ikke på den måde, det første direktiv må ændres.
As regards Mr Sieglerschmidt's observation to the effect that medicines should not be discussed as a purely commercial question, I should like quite simply, without anticipating a future debate, to point out that we are of course aware of this aspect but realize, on the other hand, that it is in the interests of the large number of sick persons for whom science is far from being able to provide satisfactory medicines to establish commercial conditions permitting new medicines of this kind to be developed as swiftly as possible.
Man bør altså ikke følge Kommissionens forslag.
That is the economic aspect of a efficient supply of pharmaceutical products ...
Det er ikke særlig sjovt for ordføreren.
This is what I meant when I spoke of the commercial conditions.
Det er jo allerede sket flere gange i transport udvalget, at en ordfører har arbejdet med noget, som i grunden allerede var forældet.
This amendment is intended as a reassurance for those who have apprehensions of a mass exodus of pharmacists to those Member States which permit free establishment of new pharmacies and a resultant imbalance.
For det andet: Hvis De i sidste instans skulle blive nødt til at ændre to direktiver, så giv os venligst lejlighed til at tage stilling til begge ændringer.
The Commission regards these fears as exaggerated, particularly in view of the extent of migration which has taken place by virtue of existing direc tives concerning the mutual recognition of diplomas — especially that relating to doctors, which has been in force since 1977.
Sådan kalder jeg nu engang kort direktivet fra 1965 og dernæst om det første direktiv. Det er vi jo aldrig blevet hørt om! - Det er alt, hvad jeg ville sige herom.
However, it remains to be seen whether or not we are correct in our observations and conclusions, and for this reason the Commission can understand the fears of the Legal Affairs Committee without, as I said, entirely sharing them.
Jeg håber ikke, det var for kompliceret. Vi finder det særdeles fornuftigt, at der gives multilaterale tilladelser til transport af flyttegods.
This is a Community-level problem.
Det er det vigtigste budskab, som jeg vil bringe. Vi finder det fortrinligt, men vi tror, at der til en total befrielse for enhver tilladelse for alle transportformer må træffes en masse harmoniseringsbestræbelser, som vi forhåbentlig vil få mere at høre om i fremtiden.
However, this is a subject which the next European Parliament will, I am sure, have to discuss in detail.
Vore kolleger fra transportudvalget, som er til stede her i aften, forstår, hvad jeg mener.
The vote will take place at the next voting-time.
Så kunne vi ikke blive enige, og vi er alligevel blevet enige!
President. — The next item is the report by Mrs von Alemann, on behalf of the Committee on Transport (Doc 1-465/83), on
I mellemtiden havde jeg dog forelagt mit forslag om afvisning af det oprindelige kommissionsforslag.
In the same spirit, the Commission could go along with Mr Prag's amendment.
Jeg befandt mig nu i det dilemma, at jeg sådan set havde bearbejdet noget, som Kommissionen slet ikke mere gik ind for.
With a view to avoiding malpractices, he proposes that newly opened pharmacies should not be regarded as 'existing pharmacies' which can be talien over by an immigrant pharmacist.
Jeg meddelte så udvalget, at jeg ikke fandt, at dette emne egnede sig til at begynde en større procedurestrid. Det gentager jeg ganske enkelt, som jeg tænkte det.
In fact there are no regulations in any Member State by virtue of which persons wishing to set up as independent pharmacists by taking over existing pharmacies are subject to restrictions.
Der er jo ingen mening i at strides med Kommissionen på grund af dette problem med de multilaterale tilladelser for flyttegods, som er nødvendige og vigtige, hvilket den egendig havde fortjent, hr. kommissær, for det var ikke rigtigt at lade os arbejde med et forslag, som De selv ikke mere gik ind for!
A Community arrangement forbidding a wage-earning pharmacist who had obtained his diploma in a Community Member State from taking over an existing pharmacy in another Member State in which he is practising his profession would not be justifiable from the economic, legal or political point of view.
På grundlag af fru von Alemanns beslutningsforslag og Kommissionens direktiv ønsker jeg at spørge, hvorvidt disse kunst neres og cirkusfolks transport vil blive gjort lettere, og hvorvidt man vil sørge for faciliteter, som vil gøre det muligt for mennesker at rejse fra sted til sted og fra stat til stat på en lettere måde, end det har været tilfældet hidtil.
1-969/82 — COM(82) 718 final) for a direc tive amending Directive 65/269/EEC concerning the standardization of certain rules relating to authorization for the carriage of goods by road between Member States.
Jeg ved, at det proceduremæssigt er vanskeligt, men man må virkelig gøre sig tanker om, hvorledes man vil løse det fremover. I hvert fald har vi derpå gjort følgende.
I should like to add in connection with the remarks which have been made in this debate concerning the periods proposed by Mr Prag, that I was grateful to note the points made by Mr Sieglerschmidt, Mr Malangré and Mr Prag concerning the possibility of extending this period if necessary.
Hr. formand, i den forbindelse er vi meget interesseret i Rådet og Kommissionens behandling af det nederlandske memorandum vedrørende EØF-trans-portpolitikken.
According to Annex I, certain categories of transport should be exempted of all quotas and authorization requirements while other categories, as specified in Annex II, should also be exempt from quotas but could nevertheless still require authorizaion.
Hvis det nederlandske memorandum, som Rådet har modtaget for temmelig lang tid siden, blev vedtaget ville det være et stort skridt fremad, og det ville frigøre Parlamentet for at tage stilling til disse minimale forslag.
This is what we are concerned with today, since this obligation to apply for authorization and the corresponding form were subsequently laid down in a Directive dating from 1965 which showed what the two different forms required for this authorization should look like.
Vi regnede forleden ud, at med det nuværende tempo ville alle direktiver om vandforurening først være trådt i kraft i år 2130.
I am telling you all this for one reason, namely that it is apparent that sometimes our right hand does not know what the left hand is doing — and this is not funny.
Hvor længe tror Kommissionen og Rådet det vil vare, før den europæiske transport er liberaliseret?
The members of the Committee on Transport who are present here this evening will know what I mean but I should nevertheless like to explain once more for the benefit of everyone else.
Problemet i forbindelse med vejtransporten er et uhyre vigtigt spørgsmål for denne sektor. Vi havde allerede sidste år lejlighed til at beskæftige os med det i forbindelse med en betænkning, man havde overladt mig at udarbejde, om godstransport ad landevej gennem tredjelande, en betænkning som først udvalget, og derefter Parlamentet enstemmigt vedtog.
The fact was that the Council in the main took the same or more or less the same view, i.e. that this was the wrong approach with the result that the Council and the Commission, which were in the meantime ready to see eye to eye with each other, came to the conclusion on 7 June of this year that something should finally be done, that they could in fact agree to some extent, but since the European Parliament had not yet been consulted, it should be entered in the minutes that Parliament had not yet been consulted so we should simply issue guidelines.
Vor kollega, fru von Alemann, anbefaler efter Kommissionens positive udtalelse, at landevejstransporten ikke længere styres af det gamle rådsdirektiv fra 1962, og at denne transport iht. det nye direktiv heller ikke underkastes nogen fællesskabskontingentering, men kan fungerer på grundlag af multilaterale tilladelser.
As I have already mentioned, what we are concerned with is multilateral authorizations for removals, which theoretically speaking would already be possible by virtue of the first Directive.
Denne henstilling vedrører både tilladelser til flytninger mellem medlemsstaterne og tilladelser til flytninger gennem Fællesskabets område.
However, in practice authorizations have been almost exclusively bilateral and these bilateral authorizations obviously not only entail substantial administrative work, but also lead to waste of time or the haulage companies settling for major detours under certain circumstances in order to avoid having to go through a country for which they have no authorization.
Nárjes, medlem af Kommissionen. — (DE) De ved, hr. formand, at jeg i aften repræsenterer hr. Kontogeorgis og derfor noget mere upartisk registrerer det transportpolitiske sørgespil i minitempo, som igen i aften på ny demonstreres på baggrund af et særligt tilfælde, og må tage hele det store politiske efterslæb inden for dette integrationsområde til efterretning.
However, I had in the meantime submitted my proposal to reject the original Commission proposal and was in a rather awkward position, since I had basically dealt with something which the Commission no longer actually upheld.
Desto større er vor tak for den langmodighed og dygtighed, hvormed ordføreren har arbejdet sig gennem disse procedurer, og også en tak til medlem merne af transportudvalget for deres langmodighed og hårdnakkethed, for det er faktisk virkelig besværlig politik.
Nor did I learn of this from the Commission itself, I found out from other sources and frankly felt I had been made a bit of a fool of.
Vi må også være klar over, at flytning ad landevejen ikke konkurrerer med andre former for transport; tværtimod gør den de administrative procedurer nemmere og fremmer den frie handel.
I then told the Committee that, in my opinion this subject did not warrant a large-scale procedural conflict, I should like to repeat quite simply what I thought on the matter.
I betænkningen opfordres der til, at man indfører multilaterale tilladelser, også riår det gælder godstransport ad landevej.
There is simply no point in having a bust-up with the Commission because of this problem of multilateral authorizations for removals, which are both necessary and important, even though the Commission would have deserved it, since it was not right to let us go on working on a proposal that it had itself withdrawn !
Mig bekendt findes der ingen analyse af svaghederne i den europæiske transportpolitik, i hvilken man ikke har fremhævet Ministerrådets dybt gående arbejde som den egentlige grund til de ikkeopnåede eller alt for langsomme fremskridt.
However, the Commission subsequently withdraw this proposal which the European Parliament had adopted under a procedure not involving a report.
Jeg kan meddele, at både jeg selv og mine kolleger stemmer for beslutningsforslaget og håber, at Parlamentet accepterer alt det, som Rådet principielt har taget afstand fra, idet vi på den måde, med undtagelse af de tekniske aspekter, arbejder os henimod en virkelig liberalisering.
A new proposal has now been submitted but in this case it does not involve amending the first Directive and taking the categories specified in Annex II of the first Directive, but rather amending the Directive specifying the form involved, i.e. the Directive of 1965.
Eisma (NI). — Hr. formand, hvis man ser på, hvor megen umage det har kostet på 20 år at liberalisere atten forskellige slags transport, så bliver jeg helt forfærdet.
I realize that it is difficult from the procedural point of view, but we should really give some thought as to how we can solve this problem in future. At any rate, we then proceeded as follows.
Sikken en umådelig masse detailarbejde, der ligger til grundlag for de små skridt, der fører til en europæiske liberaliseret transportpolitik!
We members who are responsible for transport discussed the matter in an amicable spirit and wondered what to do next.
I 1980 forsøgte Kommissionen at få Rådet til at godkende liberalisering af de fire slags transport, der ikke mere er kontingenteret, men stadig væk kræver tilladelse. Det lykkedes ikke.
We then proposed what I had originally had in mind, i.e. to amend the first directive by taking removals out of Annex II and making this quite clear once more in the amendment to the 1965 directive, which is what we are really supposed to be deciding about.