Saints and Seducers Content . Author ' s Note . This volume attempts to catalogue and analyze known , suspected , and rumored facts about the two races that serve to maintain order within the Shivering Isles . It is by no means intended to serve as the authoritative work on the matter ; rather , it is a personal effort on the part of the author to better understand these unique creatures . In the Service of the Lord . It is beyond the scope of this work to determine the origins of the Golden Saints and Dark Seducers . They are Daedra , and as such their base existence is a mystery to those mortal - born . The commonly held belief that all Daedra are incapable of Creation suggests that even Lord Sheogorath himself is not responsible for the genesis of these races . Yet , it is worth noting that the Prince of Madness has motives and powers that none may guess ; to attempt to do so would only confuse the subject further . It is enough , then , to see that they exist and know that it is so . Beyond this knowledge , however , it is curious that the Saints and Seducers serve Lord Sheogorath unerringly . This allegiance is ultimate and eternal , from all indications , but its source is unknown . Could it be that they themselves were tricked into service by the Madgod ? Or do they simply ally themselves with the greatest power in the realm ? Previous literary works suggest that Daedra choose to serve their masters so they might find protection and safe harbor . Clearly the Saints and Seducers have this in the Shivering Isles ; indeed , they have fortresses which few not of their race are allowed to enter . They have power in the realm , acting as guardians of those who serve Lord Sheogorath . Constantly they vie for the favor of Our Lord , fighting any who oppose him and , at times , even each other . It is reasonable to assume , then , that they have made a willing choice to take up their role in the Isles . Character and Society . The immediate image called to mind when hearing the name " Golden Saint " suggests an angelic figure , elegant and benevolent . It is ironic then , that while the Golden Saints embody this image in form , their behavior is in stark contrast to it . The Saints are a proud , arrogant race , quick to anger and cruel in their punishment . There is no question that they view all in the Isles as inferior , and make no effort to hide this in their interactions . Dark Seducers also exhibit little beyond their appearance to match their names . While they too assert their superiority over all others in the realm , they appear to have a more patient , introspective nature about them . They often appear humble in their dealings with mortals , and are known to be patient with the " lesser races . " In fact , the terms " Golden Saint " and " Dark Seducer " are external constructs . While the two groups recognize and respond to these names , they have their own names for their races : The Aureal and the Mazken , respectively . It is possible the Daedra simply have no concern for the names and titles given to them by lesser beings , or perhaps they find amusement in the names . Further research into this subject is necessary but daunting , as the Saints and Seducers do not freely offer personal information about themselves . Other information can be gathered from observation . It is easy to see that the two groups are strongly militaristic in their societal structure ; one ' s strength and discipline determines one ' s place in society . Military commanders , for example , are revered by their subordinates . With further observation , a second distinction becomes apparent : both societies are Matriarchal in nature . Females lead the guards within New Sheoth , and have the highest positions of power . Males , while not openly denigrated , are clearly subservient to their female superiors . It is unclear where this practice began , but has been wholly integrated into the daily lives of both races . Conflict and Conquest . Any resident of the Shivering Isles can confirm that it is unwise to provoke the Golden Saints and Dark Seducers . They thrive on conflict and warfare , and are quick to punish any and all who disobey . Acting in their capacity as guardians of the realm does not satisfy them , however , and so they often engage in combat with one another , despite being garrisoned in areas where they are unlikely to interact . It is possible that this is more than an outlet for aggressive behavior ; repeated engagements between the two races may be an effort to gain favor with Lord Sheogorath . If one can triumph over the other , it would prove superiority and a right to gain sole control over the realm . The Battle for Cylarne is of particular interest , as both sides have been locked in combat with no hope of resolution for time beyond memory . Does this combat serve to sharpen the skills of the two sides , or weaken them when they could be directed elsewhere ? If the conflict cannot be resolved , why then does Lord Sheogorath not step in and settle it himself ? Religion and Ceremony . Little is known about the private customs of the Golden Saints and Dark Seducers . They are reclusive when it comes to matters specific to their race , particularly regarding the mysterious process by which they return to the realm in the unlikely event of their death . It is common knowledge that Golden Saints and Dark Seducers , as Daedra , cannot be killed . The Animus of the Daedra is cast back into the darkness of Oblivion , and can return to the realm to take form once more . But reports of the time it takes for a Daedra to return to the realm from the Waters of Oblivion are anecdotal and inconclusive ; the process by which this return occurs remains shrouded in mystery . Based on behavior patterns and strength of numbers , it can be deduced that the stronghold for each race plays some major part in this process . Common phrases in language ( such as " May the chimes call you home " ) suggest that rather than merely a metaphor , sound may play some role in the sequence of events . It is believed that the chimes referenced by Saints and Seducers do indeed exist and are considered almost holy relics . Attempts to gain information about these chimes , or the process by which they are used , has been met with exceptional hostility and so have been abandoned . Any and all information regarding the Golden Saints and Dark Seducers , particularly relating to private customs and origins , should be brought to the attention of the author immediately . The greater the scope of our knowledge , the better our ability to understand these compelling creatures .