Tankingmage / Archive1 Hey . Hey Tankingmage , welcome to WoWWiki ! Thanks for updating the status of those NPCs . If you have any questions feel free to leave a message on my . 16 : 46 , February 8 , 2013 ( UTC ) Thanks Dude ! Thanks for the welcome ! I ' ll bear that in mind ! See you round ! WoW Pro Lore videos . Are you affiliated with WoW - Pro ? - - 15 Apr 2013 5 : 15 PM Pacific Sure : ) I ' m open to suggestions ( ) 23 : 52 , May 9 , 2013 ( UTC ) Linking . I recommend using Source mode of the editor , if you aren ' t already . To link to High Sorcerer Andromath you would use wikitext code : To change the link text shown to something like " Andromath " , but link to High Sorcerer Andromath page use wikitext code : You can see a quickref for wikitext code at or . - - 9 May 2013 3 : 11 PM Pacific Thanks a bunch dude : ) I ' ll get round to that : D ( ) 23 : 53 , May 9 , 2013 ( UTC ) Name . Try editing your . That should make it not appear as red any longer . < helper / > ( ) 03 : 57 , May 10 , 2013 ( UTC ) Patroller . Since you ' ve started here , you ' ve done some great work and tend to hit quite a few pages . We can always use people to curtail vandalism and act as . This is also the first step for anyone wishing to become an eventual admin . If you ' re interested , leave me a message < helper / > ( ) 16 : 33 , May 16 , 2013 ( UTC ) Darkspear Rebellion . Good work . - - 18 May 2013 7 : 49 AM Pacific Colours of quote text . Without specific examples of what you ' re seeing , most likely these quotes are using the template . See the for its use . However , I often just use basic HTML and CSS , i . e . codice _ 3 → Some red text - - 23 May 2013 10 : 24 AM Pacific Hey . Hey Tankingmage , thanks ! He is a Blood elf frost Death knight . 23 : 08 , May 30 , 2013 ( UTC ) Wow Pro Lore Lethargy of the Orcs . Hey , I noticed you had the same video duplicated for different pages , so I took the liberty of linking them all to Wow Pro Lore Lethargy of the Orcs - 0 . I hope that ' s fine with you , and with your permission I ' d like to delete the duplicated videos . Thanks for adding it by the way , it ' s great to have so many new videos for pages ! 22 : 43 , May 31 , 2013 ( UTC ) Spam . Always good to ask Anytime there ' s spam like that we go ahead and delete it . If it ends up being from a user where that is their only edit , we also tend to ban them indefinitely . < helper / > ( ) 16 : 03 , June 3 , 2013 ( UTC ) Wowpedia . Wowpedia was created when Wikia screwed up royally by re - designing a globally imposed wiki skin without really accommodating the wishes of many wiki admins including WoWWiki . Instead of trying to work with the admins they basically said , " if you don ' t like it , leave . " So many did . I mostly boycotted Wikia for awhile ( 6 or 9 months , I forget how long exactly ) and WoWWiki was in bad shape soon after most of the WoWWiki admins made a copy of WoWWiki ' s database according to CC - by - SA and started Wowpedia based on that data . It largely happened also because Curse offered to host the wiki for free . I worked on Wowpedia and not WoWWiki early on after coming back from my boycott of Wikia , but I also worked on other Wikia wikis at the same time ( like Templates and Logo Creation ) . I didn ' t get along great with all the Wowpedia admins ( even before they left for WoWWiki ) and Wikia had learned from some of their mistakes . I also got to know Raylan13 who Wikia initially hired as a contractor to keep WoWWiki from falling completely into ruin . So , as I said I was still working on non - WoWWiki Wikia wikis , so I started checking in on WoWWiki from time to time and got to talking with Raylan13 . Throughout this time I also took about a 6 month break from WoW ( during Wrath ) . So when I got back into WoW I decided to see how WoWWiki was going and it wasn ' t good . Since I wasn ' t doing that much on Wowpedia by that time I started working again on WoWWiki instead . I had plenty of disagreements with Wikia during this period and still we don ' t really see eye to eye , but Raylan13 turned out to be a really good person , so I decided to work on WoWWiki primarily to support him and give Wowpedia some much needed competition . At least that ' s how I recall it . The order and timing might be slightly off , but that ' s the nutshell . I have probably answered this question half a dozen times , but I keep forgetting where I answered it . Wowpedia is not really more popular than WoWWiki , but they do have a larger group of dedicated editors and admins . So , alot of their pages are better than WoWWiki . However , you got to remember about 80 % + of their content was basically stolen to start out with , so I would say on average Wowpedia and WoWWiki are comparable enough that you can ' t say one is definitely better tan the other . Most of WoWWiki ' s problems have been related to Wikia ' s mistakes . So , if they stop making them , WoWWiki may someday recover to it ' s former glory . In all honestly , unless Wikia puts alot more effort into compensating for the huge mistake they made that led to the forming of Wowpedia , I expect Wowpedia to eventually kill WoWWiki . - - 5 Jun 2013 1 : 48 PM Pacific Expert . Seeing as how you ' ve done a ton of lore - related videos , would you be comfortable with the lore expert badge for the site ? People may end up coming to you with questions if they see the badge , so I wanted to make sure . < helper / > ( ) 16 : 58 , June 7 , 2013 ( UTC ) Done ! You can move the badge wherever you ' d like on your page - I ' ve placed it at the bottom . I believe we have a title associated with it for your profile ; I ' m working remotely , so have to implement that later if Fandyllic doesn ' t get to it first < helper / > ( ) 17 : 41 , June 8 , 2013 ( UTC ) Using current profile picture . To use it like a regular image , I think you have to upload it again with . The profile pic stuff is Wikia specific and doesn ' t hook into the regular wiki image stuff . - - 24 Jun 2013 12 : 20 PM Pacific Quotes . Absolutely go ahead and do that ! Take a look at the Warrior page for the new quotation we ' re incorporating . If it ' s an in - game quote said by the character , the source can just be the character ' s name . Try to keep it to one quote , though , just to avoid crowding at the top . < helper / > ( ) 19 : 12 , July 26 , 2013 ( UTC ) Moderator . Heya You ' re approaching 1k edits and have been branching out to editing different sorts of pages / using different templates , etc . We ' ve noticed you ' ve also taken it upon yourself to extend a welcome to new users , are a regular editor , take direction well , and ask questions when needed . Since you conduct yourself in a manner befitting a future admin , we ' d like to extend an invitation for you to take on the role of . It comes with expanded abilities which can seem daunting at first , but you ' ve never been shy about seeking help when you need it . As always , you can decline the invitation as well , with no hard feelings . This doesn ' t require you to be on any more than you already are , so don ' t feel any pressure whatsoever to make this a full - time thing ! Let me know what you think ! < helper / > ( ) 16 : 18 , July 30 , 2013 ( UTC ) Garrosh Quotes . Hey , not sure if I did something wrong . Only got your notifications now . I wanted the quote at the top of the page simply because there was a quote already present , that was not particularly relevant to the content , did not properly express the characterization of the subject , and was not even said . . . by him . . . so I took it upon myself to edit it with a more fitting quote . Why is " You . . . disappoint me . . . Garrosh . . . " more relevant to the page . . . ? ( ( ) 17 : 28 , August 5 , 2013 ( UTC ) ) Hey Tankingmage ! Thanks for your comment and the help . I marked another editing of mine as speculation now too . And thanks for the warm welcome ; ) Since you offered me to ask questions here are some I have : 1 . How long does it normally take until the edit of an article is open for others to see ( except us wikians ) . 2 . Do we need references if we are describing something we can see / find in WoW ? I would not now how to give a source for that . 3 . Are speculations wanted in wowwiki too ? Because I know a lot of speculations I could add ( if they are not there already ) 4 . In case someone changes something I wrote into something wrong or deletes it , is there a possibility to get the old things back ? All the Best Lorge Hey ! Can you do a lore video on Archmage Antonidas ? Ban . Done Thanks for pointing it out ! < helper / > ( ) 03 : 53 , August 6 , 2013 ( UTC ) Yeah but no . Ah , no , but that ' s the thing ; I ' m not particularly knowledgeable about MoP lore as a WHOLE , but I do pride myself on being knowledgeable about Garrosh Hellscream related lore ( and Thrall . and Jaina . And Vol ' jin . But that ' s not the subject right now ) . In fact , the reason I created this account was to change the quote at the top of the page ! Because , although this expansion has been a huge disappointment lore - wise ( in my opinion ) , in previous expansions he was a great character , and still IS a good character from a storytelling perspective . This is probably kind of stupid how passionate I am about this really specific niche , but I ' d ask you to put aside and personal feelings you have about this character , for the sake of lore and storytelling . And since this is wowwiki , and you ' re a moderator , I ' d hope you ' d be able to do this for me and look at things from an objective standpoint , because otherwise would be doing a serious injustice to the game and the thought and care put into each and every character . I have some light reading for you containing some articles I have both seen and written on the subject . Mine contain some cursing , because it ' s on my personal blog and I ' m yelling at people as a response since I gave up being polite long ago , but I ' ll give you a heads - up on which links contain harsh language . 1 . ( Language ) 2 . ( Mild Language ) 3 . 4 . 5 . 6 . 7 . ( Language ) So I mean like , whatever , you don ' t need to like him and I am certainly not forcing that on you . There ' s a lot of reasons to hate the guy or be disappointed in him or want to kill him , but . . . I don ' t like the idea of such a negative quote being used as a header , when really ? This is not representative of who he is or current events ( it ' s a quote from Wrath , dude ) . ESPECIALLY when other main antagonists , raid bosses , are NOT shown in such a negative light . Example , Arthas ' s quote is " I would gladly bear any curse to save my homeland . " Illidan ' s quote is " Betrayer . . . In truth , it was I who was betrayed . Still , I am hunted . Still , I am hated . Now , my blind eyes see what others cannot . And sometimes the hand of fate must be forced ! Now go forth . . . unleash the tides of Doom . . . Upon all those . . . Who would oppose us . " Or you could just ignore this and other people who feel similarly , but I don ' t think you ' d be doing a good job as an editor or moderator if you let your personal feelings about a specific character get in the way of accuracy and dedication to the storyline . Thanks , I replied on your talk page , here are my 2 replies again Editors . Sure , I don ' t see any problem with that . Fandyllic seems to have a more aesthetic eye for the front page , so I ' d run it by him to see what he ' d like to do . < helper / > ( ) 19 : 06 , August 18 , 2013 ( UTC ) FYI bad ref . This change messed up the on the Patch 5 . 4 . 0 page . You closed your codice _ 4 with a codice _ 5 when it should have been a codice _ 6 . Make sure to preview your changes . Also , you put it in a non - existent parameter codice _ 7 , so it wasn ' t going to show up anyway . - - 20 Aug 2013 6 : 43 AM Pacific Editing requirements . To be honest , I was completely unaware that anons couldn ' t edit here . Let me do some checking around today about it . < helper / > ( ) 16 : 03 , August 20 , 2013 ( UTC ) Good to know it ' s been fixed - had to run out the door yesterday before I could get a definite response from anyone . Don ' t worry about poking me when things aren ' t moving along < helper / > ( ) 22 : 05 , August 31 , 2013 ( UTC ) Modes . Let me look into that tomorrow and get back to you ; ) Office is closed today . < helper / > ( ) 15 : 33 , September 2 , 2013 ( UTC ) Nomination . Let me run the conversation past Fandyllic < helper / > ( ) 03 : 32 , September 14 , 2013 ( UTC ) Email . Just wanted to let you know I dropped you an email to the account associated with your username here . Fire me one back to let me know you got it . < helper / > ( ) 17 : 30 , September 18 , 2013 ( UTC ) Social media . You can absolutely help manage the FB / Twitter accounts - the more hands on those , the better . The Twitter account is obviously password protected , so let me run that by Fandyllic ; as for the FB account , go ahead and join ( if you haven ' t already ) , then send me a message so I can promote you to admin . < helper / > ( ) 15 : 43 , September 20 , 2013 ( UTC ) Main Page Revamp . Heya I was wondering what you thought of this main page - the slider and / or the layout . I ' ve been looking at our site for some time and thought we might benefit from an overhaul of the main page . I think the above wiki comes closest to what we might need . < helper / > ( ) 19 : 40 , October 3 , 2013 ( UTC ) Videos . You seem to be putting videos in a codice _ 8 section in a codice _ 9 section , which is good . However , you may want to consider putting the videos themselves in a gallery if they are of the File : type , like : Since it seems to be pretty easy to upload Youtube videos to the codice _ 11 type , we can use galleries . - - 7 Oct 2013 6 : 01 PM Pacific Video formatting . Okay I sent to about video formatting . I ' d like to make adding them easier and more standardized . This is somewhat new and we didn ' t really have a guideline before . I ' m recommending a size of 400px ( width ) rather than 335px . Here ' s example wikicode : Here ' s how it looks on the Ner ' zhul page : - - 8 Oct 2013 7 : 33 AM Pacific Hey . Yeah it ' s been a while : P . Won ' t be very active till all my exams are over though . 18 : 42 , October 12 , 2013 ( UTC ) I knew it wasn ' t you . As for the visual editing , I think it will be easier for a lot of people , however I don ' t like it . And yeah I noticed the new anonymous editing feature , it ' s interesting . 21 : 35 , October 14 , 2013 ( UTC ) Badges . The idea has been floated before , and it boils down to people editing for the sole sake of getting those badges , but in non - constructive ways . The consensus here has been that it should be avoided ; the admins do have access to some badges they can offer ( i . e . Number of edits , experts , etc . ) - and it ' s probably a better system ( even if perhaps not as consistent ) because then it becomes a less automatic feature and more focused on quality of participation . You can always readdress the issue , though , to see if sentiment has changed any < helper / > ( ) 16 : 40 , October 21 , 2013 ( UTC ) Email . Be sure to check the email associated with your wowwiki account < helper / > ( ) 17 : 32 , October 22 , 2013 ( UTC ) Playlist . It is ok if I include your lore - videos in a playlist on youtube ? Yeah sure , just add them in . Thanks ( ) 02 : 03 , November 5 , 2013 ( UTC ) Please add citations or at least new links to " Warlords of Draenor " . I almost deleted Warlords of Draenor because it lacked any references . - - 4 Nov 2013 10 : 10 PM Pacific World of Warcraft ' s subscribers . See - - 6 Nov 2013 4 : 10 PM Pacific Warlords of Draenor content . Great job on popping the information into place ! Could you make a simple indexed list of links nested under the BlizzCon 2013 page ? Something like BlizzCon 2013 / Features would be great < helper / > ( ) 23 : 14 , November 8 , 2013 ( UTC ) Model Viever . How did you download Renault Mograine ' s official model to modelviever so that you could use it in that lore machinima ? I must now as fast as you can tell ( ) 16 : 31 , November 12 , 2013 ( UTC ) Panels . IIRC we aren ' t permitted by Blizzard to post any of the panels ' videos on the press sites . I think the most we ' re allowed to post is about five minutes worth , but there are some additional requirements for even that . < helper / > ( ) 18 : 03 , November 11 , 2013 ( UTC ) Working . Oh , yes , BlizzCon counted as work . Was running around nonstop on Friday , and Saturday was only a little less hectic . But as far as normal work day goes ? I ' ve got anywhere from two to four meetings in a week , then off to work on either creating or helping to build up new or existing gaming wikis . I also run the Kickstarter portal we have , which is fun to go through twice a week . I ' ve got time set aside - barring pressing work - to work on gaming wikis I enjoy , and then one whole shift is set aside for Warcraft work . < helper / > ( ) 19 : 19 , November 11 , 2013 ( UTC ) Videos . I think I went through and deleted all instances of the BlizzCon videos - but you " really " need to remove all of them from your youtube account . Blizzard won ' t hesitate to issue a cease and desist order ; I don ' t know what kind of bearing that would have on your channel and relationship with youtube , but it looks like you ' ve done a ton of work on other videos and I wouldn ' t want to see the channel deleted < helper / > ( ) 19 : 31 , November 11 , 2013 ( UTC ) WoL . I ' ll have to handle the audio stuff , just as a matter of logistics and task requirements set out to me . But if you can go through the panels with a fine tooth comb , that would help immensely . Between the two of us we should be able to knock it out fairly well ; you can also use the pics in those panels on the pages , in case you didn ' t know I assume you got the virtual ticket ? < helper / > ( ) 00 : 35 , November 12 , 2013 ( UTC ) Content Preservation thingy . Moved to my talk . I know , is kinda hippo ( ) 05 : 16 , November 12 , 2013 ( UTC )