even full-symphony orchestras . By the late 1990s, the underground considered many Norwegian bands, like Emperor, [21] [22] Immortal, [21] [22] Dimmu Borgir , [21] Ancient [21] [22] Covenant/The Kovenant , [21] and Satyricon, [22] to have chummed up with the mainstream media and "big bastard labels" [21] and commercialised. [21]