CABLE: HAD CIRCA TWO AND HALF HOUR MEET WITH SUBJ LATE
Originator: CIA
From: GENEVA
To: DIRECTOR
Document date: 1964-03-02 00:00:00
Document type: PAPER - TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

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RECORD NUMBER : 104-10308-10308

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FROM : WITHHELD

TITLE : CABLE: HAD CIRCA TWO AND HALF HOUR MEET WITH SUBJ LATE

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* 03/02/1964

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C/EE 3 (EE NOTIFIED AND COPY SLOTTED AT 1550, 2 MAR 64 (PB) /

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C/SOD 4, C/DODS/Ls: C/DODS 4, C/SPOG, C/CA 2, C/CA/0 4, c/CI,

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PRIORITY DIR INFO PRIORITY BERN CITE GNVA 6313

RYBAT INDEVOUT 3 PBRUMEN

REF GNVA 6311 (IN R9314)

1. HAD CIRCA TWO AND HALF HOUR MEET WITH SUBJ LATE

EVENING 29 FEB. THIS FOLLOWED BY DOUBLE BRUSH MEET LATE

EVENING 1 MARCH AT WHICH SUBJ PASSED US AND ROVD BACK

DOCUMENT WHICH PHOTOGRAPHED (SEE BELOW) •

2. GENERAL COMMENT: SUBJ CHARACTERIZES. PRESENT. TRIP

AS "MOST INTERESTING TO DATE" FROM POINT OF INTEL. WE BELIEVE

CONTINUED DEBRIEFING WILL BEAR THIS OUT. SUBJ GREAT FATIGUE

AND INEVITABLE SIDE DISCUSSIONS AFTER RETURN FROM HOMELAND:

LIMITED BOTH LENGTH OF MEETING AND BREADTH AND DEPTH OF

INITIAL DEBRIEFING. NEVERTHELESS WE ABLE COVER SUBSTANTIAL

RANGE OF HIGHLY SIGNIFICANDE

TOPICS.

3. WISH NOTE THAT SITUATION DESCRIBED SY SUBJ, PER BELOW,

ON INTERNAL ALIGNMENTS, AND EXTERAL ATTITUDE ON "SINO SOVIET

STRUGGLE," IS SUBTLE, NUANCED, COMPLICATED, AND "CUBAN" UNDER

BEST OF CIRCUMSTANCES AND SUBJ OWN WELL KNOWN COMPLEXITY OF

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DELIVERY ADDS FURTHER DIMENSION OF DIFFICULTY.

CONSIDERABLE

FURTHER DEBRIEFING WILL BE NECESSARY TO GET TOPICS IN'FULL

PERSPECTIVE: NEVERTHELESS BELIEVE ON BASIS INITIAL DEBRIEFING

HAVE UNDERSTOOD ESSENCE OF SITUATION SUFFICIENTLY TO PERMIT

INTEL DISSEM. BELIEVE ALSO CONTINUED DEBRIEFING WILL CONFIRM

INITIAL IMPRESSION THAT SUBJ HAS SECURED PARTICULARLY VALUABLE

INSIGHT INTO TOP LEVEL THINKING SEVERAL IMPORTANT AREAS. WILL MAKE

CONTINUED DEBRIEFING TOP PRIORITY CONCERN, BUT UNFORTUNATELY

SUBJ MOVEMENT HIGHLY LIMITED BY PRESENCE GNVA OF GROUP OF

CUSANS FOR WHO AND OTHER MATTERS AND ANOTHER TOP LEVEL

GROUP WILL COMMENCE ARRIVING GNVA CIRCA MARCH FOR UNCAST

CONF. WE HOPE BE ABLE BREAK BACK OF PROBLEM WITH CIRCA

SIX -

EIGHT HOUR DEBRIEFING SUBJ PROJECTED FOR 7. MARCH IN ZURI.

40 PERSONAL AND OP HIGHLIGKTS OF MEETING AND DEBRIEFING FOLL:

A. PERSONAL RPT PERSONAL: SUBJ IS ELATED BY FACT OF SUCCESSEUL

ROUND TRIP, AND OF TREATMENT ACCORDED HIM HAVA• HE HOWEVER

IN STATE OF GROSS FATIGUE AND TEARS OF TIREDNESS WERE

ROLLING DOWN HIS CHEEKS WHEN WE TERMINATED MEET.

WE MAKING STRONGEST EFFORT PERSUADE

HIM GET AWAY ON WEEKENDS, SINCE FEAR HE CANNOT GO ON

MUCH LONGER AT PRESENT SEVEN DAY WEEK, NO VACATION SCHEDULE.

HE HAS AGREED UTILIZE ZURI DEBRIEFING TRIP FOR AT LEAST. THIRTY-

SIX HOUR PERSONAL BREATHER•

OPERATIONAL RPT OPERATIONAL: SUBJ ENCOUNTERED UNEXPECTED

GRAVE RISK DURING HAVA STAY. CIRCA TEN DAYS AFTER ARRIVAL,,

HE SUDDENLY DENOUNCED AS "COUNTER REVOLUTIONARY" BY FORMER AIDE

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PEDRO GONZALES PIEVIRO (SEE GNVA 5462) .

DENOUNCIATION, WHICH MADE

TO MIN FORN AFFAIRS COLLEGIUM, APPARENTLY RESULT PINEIRO BITTERNESS

TOWARDS SUBJ, AGRAVATED BY RAUL ROA REFUSAL 'GRANT PINEIRO DESIRABLE

POST FOR WHICH HE REQUESTED BY NAME. EVERYONE FROM ROA ON DOWN

PALLIED TO SUBJ, AND PINEIRO HAS NOT YET COME UP WITH SPECIFIC

CHARGES.

HOWEVER, VIEW GRAVE NATURE CHARGES AND FACT PINEIRO

MUST BACK THEM UP OR FACE DISMISSAL AND PERHAPS BANISHMENT TO

PROVINCES, SUBJ HAS NOT HEARD LAST OF MATTER AND AT LEAST

EXPECTS MUST ANSWER SPECIFIC CHARGES, WHEN FORTHCOMING, IN

WRITIVS.

C. THERE NO QUESTION BUT THAT PINEIRO ACTION NOT RPT NOT REGIME

PLOT AGAINST SUBJE

HIS RECALL WAS FOR REASONS STATED BY HAVA

IN RECALL CABLE, AND HE GIVEN EXCELLENT TREATMENT. WAS CONSTANTLY:

CLOSETED WITH ROA, MAD INTERVIEW WITH DORTICOS, AND SPOKE AT

SESSION PRESIDED OVER BY DORTICOS AND ATTENDED BY "CHE" GUEVARA,

CARLOS RAFAEL RODRIGUEZ AND ROA, AMONG OTHERS, AT WHICH "LACAST"

CONF AND RANGE OF CUBAN EXTERNAL TRADE-PROBLEMS WAS TOPIC.

Do SUBJ EXCELLENT POSITION MAY HAVE DRASTIC CONSEQUENCES.

HE ESTIMATES MAY BE RECALLED AT SOME POINT TO FILL UPPER LEVEL

POST, AND PARTICULARLY CONCERNED THIS REGARD VIEW FACT THAT

VICE MINISTER OF FORN TRADE LLOMPART RODRISUEZ, ONE OF

FOUR VICE MINISTERS, BEING SENT ARGENTINA AS AMBASSADOR AND THUS

LEAVING VACANT POST FOR WHICH SUBJ EMINENTLY QUALIFIED. • CUBJ

AT OP MEETING SERVED LOU KEY BUT EMPHATIC NOTICE HE WILL NOT

ACCEPT PCS ASSIGNMENT HAVA "AT ANY PRICE." WE DID NOT DEEM

MOMENT SUITABLE FOR DETAILED EXPLORATION WHICH CAN AWAIT

TERMINATION PRESSING INTEL DEBRIEFING.

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5** INTEL DEBRIEFIT. HIGHLIGHTS FOLL:

A. CASTRO TRIP MOSCOW:. TRIP MADE PRIMARILY TO GAIN USSR

ECONOMIC AID, SECONDARILY TO SHOW PSP "OLD GUARD" IHEY NO LONGER

NECESSARY IN CASTRO DEALINGS WITH USSR.

SOVIET AID

ACCURATELY DESCRIBED IN PRESS REPORTS.

CUBAN/US RELATIONS AND GUANTANAMO: CASTRO SINCERELY

DESIRES NEGOTIATE DETENTE WITH US..

CONCERNED PRES JOHNSON WILL

NOT FOLLOW KENNEDY COURSE WHICH "MIGHT MAVE LED TO NEGOTIATIONS."

KHRUSHCHEV IN MOSCOW CONVINCED CASTRO "CARRIBEAN PEACE" WORKS*

TO CUBAN ADVANTAGE AND MUST BE STRENGTHENED.

IN ADDITION,

CASTRO CONVINCED CUBAN PROSPERITY NOT ACHIEVABLE WITH SOV AID

ALONE. HE INFURIATED BECAUSE "FISHING BOAT" INCIDENT CONSTITUTED

OBSTACLE TO BETTERMENT US CUBAN RELATIONS, BUT PRESTIGE FORCED

HIM TAKE SOME ACTION. IN CUTTING GUANTANAMO WATER, APPARENTLY

CHOSE ACTION LEAST LIKELY TO ESCALATE. ONE ALTERNATIVE CONSIDERED

AND ABANDONED WAS FIRING AT "U-2" FLIGHTS, WHICH CUBANS APPARENTLY

ABLE TRACK•

C. LATIN AMERICA: CASTRO CONVINCED KHRUSHCHEV WILL NOT

SUPPORT REVOLUTION IN LATIN AMERICA, VIEW DESIRE MAINTAIN STATUS

QUO WITH ODYOKE, CASTRO HAS TOLD LATIN AMERICAN

AMBASSADORS HAVA

HE WILL STOP ACTIVITY AGAINST ALL L.A. COUNTRIES IS LATTER WILL

RECIPROCATE.

ROA BELIEVES THIS SERIOUS OFFER.

SONO SOVIET STRUGGLE: VERY COMPLICATED. EXTERNALLY, TN

ESSENCÉ, CASTRO BELIEVES CHICONS RIGHT IN CLAIMING USSR BETRAYING

ORTHODOX COMMUNIST DOCTRINES, BUT CHICOMS ARE "FARCEURS" WHO HAVE

NOTHING SUSSTANTIAL TO OFFER CUBA OR UNDERDSVELOPED WORLD.... HENCE

FOR PRAGMATIC REASONS CUBA SUPPORTINS SOVIET COURSE. CHE GUEVARA IS

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STRONGEST "PRO CHINESE."

INTERNALLY, FIDELISTAS WHILE COMMITED

MARXISM-LENINISM, DETERMINED IT WILL BE ALONG CUBAN RATHER THAN

"RUSIAN" LINE AND STRUGGLE UNDER WAY ON THIS ISSUE.

PSP-"OLD GUARD": CASTRO CONVINGED THEY STILL CONSPIRING

AGAINST HIM AND THAT CARLOS RAFAEL RODRIGUEZ IS AND HAS BEEN "ANTI-

FIDELISTA", LEADER. CAMPAIGN TO DISCREDIT AND FURTHER DIMINISH

INFLUENCE "OLD GUARD!' CURRENTLY UNDER WAY.

F. INTERNAL ECONOMIC: MAJOR PREOCCUPATION OF REGIME,

BOTH

TO MAINTAIN POPULAR SUPPORT AND TO DEMONSTRATE " INDEPENDENCE FROM

RUSSIFICATION," IS TO SATISFY CONSUMER NEEDS AND CATEGORICALLY RESIST

CLASSIC EASTERN EUROPEAN PATTERN OF "SACRIFICE TO CONSTRUCT SOCIALISM."

G. UNCTAD AND FORN TRADE: UNABLE DEBRIEF SUBJ THIS TOPIC

DUE HIS SUDDEN SUCCUMBING TO FATIGUE AS WE ABOUT COMMENCE.

HOWEVER

VIA 1 MARCH BRUSH MEETS SECURED AND PHOTOGRAPHED CIRCA HUNDRED

PAGE REPORT OF VICE MINISTER FORN TRADE MALDANADO ON TALKS ON

UNCTAD WITH EUROPEAN ORBIT MEMBERS JANUARY 64. POUCHING FILM FRAN 3

MARCH WITH CABLE INSTRUCTIONS EXPEDITE MOVEMENT TO MKTOPAZ, DEVELOP,

SEND PRINTS PRIORITY BASIS DIRECTLY TO HOS.

6. POUCHING FURTHER DETAILS PARA FOUR. INTEL CABLES FOLLOW ON

PARA FIVE ITEMS. PLS NOTE, INTEND IN FURTHER DEBRIEFING COVER

MANY AREAS ASIDE FROM THOSE INCLUDED PARA 5, WHICH ALL THAT

TIME PERMITTED.

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CS COMMENT: * CABLE IS MORE THAN A YEAR OLD:

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