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PRESIDENT'S FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE ADVISORY BOARD AGENDA

FOR MEETING OF APRIL 23, 1963

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SUBJECTS : AGENDA FOR APRIL 23, 1963 MEETING

"SUMMARY OF APRIL 23; 1963 MEETING

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CONFIDENTIAL

PRESIDENT'S FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE ADVISORY BOARD

AGENDA FOR MEETING OF APRIL 231 1963

ITEM

IIME

SUBJECT

1.

9:00 - 9:15

12-9:15-10:15

~3.

20:15

11:1

10:45

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10:45-5-11-35

The Chairman's Time

-Status Report on Prior-Board Recommendations.

Mr. - Russell-Ash *

Discussions with the Director of Central

Intelligence

Jonn McCone

Mr. Segmian Kerk/strick

Current Intelligence and Covert Operational

Activity Relating toreud, state Department

* Mr. Sterling J. Cottrell,

15.

13: 10-12:55

11:15--12:25

Status Report on Developments Pertaining

o the Defense Intelligence Agenc

to General Joseph F. Carroll

USAF,

Director, Defen intell Ente

Hen When Grinn,

16.

12:15-12:40-Exocutlve-Session (Fire rules)

12:45 - 2:20

Luricheon at the Metropolitan Club In Honor of

Mr.

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2:30° - 3:00°

Status Report - National Reconhaissance

Office

Dr. Brockway Molllan, Director, NRO

19.

3:60 - 4:00

Developments Relating to the National

security Agency

John H. Rubel, Deputy Director, Research

and Engineering, Department of Defense

It. General Gordon A. Plake,

Director

National Security Agency+ Bab Rich + Edun Bartush.

vio.

11:00 - 5:00

Intelligence Coverage of Foreign Diplomatic

and International Organization Establishments

and Personnel in the United States

Alan H. Belmont, Assistant Director, FBI

Mr. Millen

5:00--5:7:0-

- Executive Session (ti.e@verlap)

*inis item was not considered at the 4/23/63 meeting of the Board.

In lieu thereof the

Board discussed the

DCI's reporCONFIDENTIAL

on Cuba dated 4/15/63, following a briefing thereon by Mr. Coyne.

Ill Board Membere Present.

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AGENDA (Continued)

ITEM

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TIME 5:45

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5:152

5:25--

Énd of

Day

SUBJECT

Meeting with the President - Presentation

of commission to Mr. Clifford

as new

Board Chairman

Executive Session with the new Yoard Chair-

man

Addend um:

Subsequent to the preparation of this agenda,

the

DCI submitted his comments on the recommendations

(on cuba

and other subjects) which the Board

made

to the President at Its last

meeting.

The DCI'S

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THE WHITE HOUSE

WASMINGTON

MEMORANDUM FOR THE FILE

SUBJECT:

Meeting of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory

Board, Apr11 23, 1963

Ine Board met

at 9:00 a.m., Apr11 23, 1963: in the Boora's

offices, Room 297, Executive OffIce Building, at the call of the

Chairman, Dr. Killian. Present were Board members Doolittle,

Murphy, Clifford, Gray, Baker, Pace, Langer and Land, and Messrs.

Coyne and Ash.

Dr. Killian opened the meeting with the observation that when

the DCI joined the Board meeting later In the day, Evard members

should be prepared to discuss with Mr. McCone the lutter's April 15,

1963, submission to the President of commento In response to the

14 recommendations made in the Board's March & report on Cuba.

The Chairman asked Mr. Coyne to give the Board a brief oral

summary of the DCI's April 15 submission to the President. Mr. Come

did so by reveating for the information

of the Board members the

comment's which he had provided to Mi. Bundy in a memorandum dated

AprIl 22, 1963, In response to Mr. Bundy's request that he be

furnished Mr. Coyne's own reaction (not that of the Board) to the

DCI's communication to the President.

Having heard Mr.. Coyne's

resume of his comments to Mr. Bundy

on the DCI's report, Dr. Killlan thought that the comments. were

sound and well presented, although Dr. Killian was of the view that

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Briefly referring to his visit to the NPIC quarters at

the Naval Gun Factory,

General Doolittle noted that the facillty has considerable room for expansion and

the activity 1s being carried on there under greatly Improved conditions. The f

Department of Defense personnel contingent which is housed at the facility operates

as a self-contalned unit. Mr. Lundahl, Director of the NPIC, reports that although

the facility does not possess ustficient manpower to handle a double load which might

be Imposed should two emergency situations occur simultaneously, he nevertheless

feels that the space and equipment expansion now under way at the new quarters would

accommodate the additional personnel who would be required in such

situation.

At the Chairman's request, Mr. Murry briefly informed the Board concerning

the meeting which he and Mr. Gray and Mr. Coyne had recently with Mr. Cord Meyer

•of CIA on the subject of covert action programs. Mr. Murphy pointed out that

Mi. Meyer's briefing covered operations In Latin American countries, but the subject

of Cuba was excluded Inasmuch as that subject was to bé covered at today's Board

meeting. Mr. Murphy said the briefing consisted primarily of light touches in-

cluding information on the China frontier situation. Nothing new was brougit up

with respect to Furope or the Middle East, Mr. Murphy said: The CIs briefing

reflected the existence of positive evidence that the entourage of the Brazilian

President Goulart 1s communist-penetrated.. Mr. Murpby observed that this briefing

had been presented by CIA at the request of Mr. Murphy und Mr. Gray, and It was

Mr. Murphy's Impression that the briefing was rather routine in nature, and therefore

seemed to downgrade the Importance which the Board attrches to the subject of covert

action operations and requirements.

DI. Land observed that fron his experience, every time that secrecy is used

as a cloak for an assumed efficient but sensitive operation, one may well later

find on removal of the cloak that there was nothing there.. Di. Land thought that

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1t Is up to the Board to ascertain specifically whether the President desires that

the Board go Into covert action progranis deeply, and 1f that 1s the Fresident' e

wish then the board should take steps to insure that it recelven full and digificant

brieflngs from the agencies concerned.

In this connection Mr. Clifford asked

whether there was any limitation at all on the Board's right to know about these

matters.

Di. Killian replied that there were no limitations and that this is well

established.

"r. Coyne Informed the Board at this foint about the telephone call which had

been received from the office of the DoI the preceding day, Mi. Kickpatrich of

CIA had conveyed the DCI's wish that the scheduled CIA briefing of the Boara today

on certain clandestine operations be conducted in the absence of Mr. Cottrell,

Deputy Assistant Secretary of State, Bureau of Inter-merican Iffairs, who kri MeCone

understood was

to join the Board meeting at the sane time the CLA briefing was to

ve siven. Tue basis for the DI's request was the fact that coriain aspests of the

CIA briefing to be given on clandestine óperations with respect to. Cuba involve

cövert action operntions which Mr. Cottrell 1s not privy to. No. Come noted that:

the Bue a's agenda had been revised to acconmodate the DoI's request, although

Mr. Corne found the request to be sonowat surprising in view of the responsiblities

which have been assigned to li. Cottrell by the Wilte house for coordination for

all matters relating to Cuba.

NI. Gray observed that if at today's meeting the Board in fact received a

full story concerning clandestine and covert actions being planned ana executed

under CIA auspicee, this would certainly constitute a milestone In the Board's

efforts. along this line. Dr. land thought the Board should tale the position that

unless the ClA briefing presents a full story, the briefers shoula be asked to

continue until the Board has received a full picture. Mi. Clifford thought thạt

the better procedure to follow would be for the Beard to listen to the CIA briefing

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and to ask any questions which 1t may have during the course of the briefing, and

If the Board st1ll has unanswered questions at the conclusion of the briefing

they should be complled by the board ataff for discussion at the next meeting of

the Eoard and pursued further with the deI.

ile Board agrecd with Mr. Clifford s

suggestion. M. Murphy added that the Board should endeavor to ascertal the

context of any over-all plan which the government has with respect to cuba and under

which the latelligeuce comunity 1s operating: DE. KIlllan emphasized the desta.

01l1ty that on the occasion of the Cin briefing today, pertinent questions regarding

Cuba should be pressed with the briefers. Mi. Clifford observed that If the Board

does not receive sufficient information from CIA in these matters!, It might be well

to consider the alternative of the Board preparing Itsell for the conduct uf a

searching eraniaallon of appropriate CHA representatives who are knorledgeable:

in this area, end have a stenographic record prepared of the proceedings.

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At 10:15 a.m., the Director of Central Intelligence, Mc. Mccone,

joined the board meeting, accompanied by Mesors, Kirkpatrick,

Fitzgeraid and Clark. Referring to events of the past twenty-four

nours, the DOI expressed satisfaction that

the u.s./Cuba prisoner

exchange nac included

the return to the U.s: of the 3 senior CIA

personnel who had been imprisoned in Cuba early In the Castro regime

when they were caught In the act of bugging the Chinese Communist

mission in Cuba.

Mr. McCone said that the exchange which the attorney

Donovan had worked out with Castro called for the relcase of 22

Americans

in exchange for the return to cuba of Molina (Castro body-

guard) who was in the custudy of Neir York authorities following the

slaying of an Argentine girl in a night club, and the 3 Cubans vino

were under federal indictment in New York on sabotage charges. The

DCI said that he personally negotiated w1th Governor Rockefeller

the release of Molina, and that the Attorney General handled the

release of the other three Cubans.

In answer to a questior: from Mr. Murphy, the DCI stated inat

the terns of the exchange agreement were not of a nature to illect the

conduct of present or future U.S. intelligence and covert action oper-

ations with respect to Cuba. Mr. Mocone added that Castrodid not

seek any conditions other than the release of the 4. Cubans being held

In the Ü.S. Mr. McCone thought 1t Interesting that Castro had pressed

for no conditions involving U,s. polley towald Cuba, and had sought

no assurances regarding U.s, aerial surveillance, espionage operations,

milltary policy, or anything else. Vallejo, Castro's assistant, told

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attorney. Donovan to teli President Kennedy and

Mi. liccone that

Castro realizes that he must gain a rapprochment witi the U.s.,

and Mr. McCone expressed the bellef that in agracing to the recent

prisoner exchange Castro 1s seeling to retain a thread of contact

with the u.s, as insurance in the event of a double-cross by the

•USSR. The reI had no idea why he had been Included in the message

to be delivered by Donovan.

Mr. Macone pointed out that the attorney Donovan has

become our only. direct channel to Castro.: Howevar, Donoven

has

announced

that his mission is ended

and that with the completion

of the recent exchange he had gone into cuba for the last time (for

one thing Donovan had to maice the anuouncemeni to head off continued

aypeals by Cuban exiles in the U.S. to help obtain the reléase of

numerous ralatives still rematiing in Cuban prisons). Thereiore;

Mr. HeCone noted, if any future us. Is to be made of Donovan's entree

to castro, it would undoubtedly have to be on some basis other than

prisoner releases.

Messis. Kirkpatrick and Fitzgerald noted that apparently the

Castro regime had not succeeded in connecting the 3 CIA pirsonnel

ic employment iith CIA.

Next, Mr. McCone turned to several matters which he wished to

mention to the Board.

In the coordination field, the DCI. Informed the Buard that the

new NRO agreement 1s now in effect and working well. Plans and

arrangements for the DIA's use of the NPIC are progressing. In the

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Mr. Desmond Fitzgeraid of CIA (DD/P: Area) exhibited a chart ieflecting the

following infomation concerning clandestine agents In Cuba as of April 1, 1953,

and the Intelligence reports which they bad produced during the 12-month perlod

ending April 1, 1963:

82 resident agents - 605 reports.

2. 1Ílegal teams - 77 reports.

29 legal travelers - 67 reports.

46 shijboard agonts - 39 reports

26 penetrations of Cucan installations - 1192 renoris:

In answer to questions raised by Board menbers, tr. Fitzgerald einborater.

upon the statistics displayed on the chart which he exhibited to the Board

The restient agents" are not third-country diplomats but are Cubans. As

of March 1, 1962, there were 50 such agents In Cuba.

Thereafter, 480 Individuals

were considered for possible use in this category.

Of the number which here recruited;

34 resident agents in Cuba have been lost (one is know to have been executed,

27 are, unaccounted for, 4 escaped ulter arrest).. As of April 1, 1903 the total

nuter of resident agents in cuto is la as indicated previousty by li. fitzgerald.

With reference to the "illegal teams" of which there are 2 In Cuba,

1a. Fitzgerald stated that the teams consist of 2 men cach, but that as many as lou

sub-agents have been developed by the teams.

the recruitment and operation of the

2 teems are in the "black"

, the teams were

introduced by sca and tipir mission.

is primarily inteligence gathering A princiral intellicence mission 1s the

outaining oi inforation conseming military aspeets of the Soviet presence in

Cuba. Also, Mr. Fitzgerald stated, the illegal teams are designed to create resistance

networts among the cuban population if rossible, but the roller is not to purrue large

scale, dangerous acttrity of this sort." For the most part reports are received from

members of the Illegal teams in the fom of secret writing messages dispatched

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In the regular mall by way of Mexico, and lu. Fitzgerald stated In this connection

that efforts are being nade to equip the team members 1th additional radios (they

have t agent-type radios now); and lt 1s hoped that the team memberg will soon be

equipped with radio wilts whlch are small in size (the transmitter and receiver

together about the size of 2 cigarette cartons) and carable of medlum specd trano-

missions for spaus of only do seconds. Mr. Fitzgerald further Infomed the Evard

that there were 4 Illegal agents in Cuba as of March 1, 1962, and In the 12-montb

perlod ending April t, 1963, 45 agents were infiltrated, 32 were ex-filtruted, and

13 here lost, and as of April 1, 1903 there are in cuba l agents conprising the

2 Iliegal agent seans.

With reference to the shipboard agents, li. Eltogerald said that these

agenis are or board Cuban ships, of wilch there are only 19 operating outside

of Cubar rators. With regard to penetrations. of Cuban installations previously

referred to, la. Fitzgerald stated that these involve Cutan diplomats ani Cucan

diplomatic instállations abroad.

lie added that some 14 Cuban diplomats are

provalos infomation and 2 of these have furnished reports which are considered

to be 800d.

In cosver to liz. Murphy's question, hir. Fltagerald said that the

only penetratión of Castro's Innediate entourage has been through Castro's

jounger sister..

He

naded that the pencirations referred to tacluded 12 of an

audio aurveillance nature.

Referring again to the 655 Intelligence reporte

which bave been obtained from resident agents in Cuba, Mi. Fitzgerald sald that

these reports are heavily devoted to military subjects and a few of them have

proved really worth while, as for crample, duricg the October crisis when these

reports served to pin- point MREM locations.

On the economic side, It 1s reported

that curtaileil exports of speclal lubricating oil compouents elves the cuuens

a serious problem

in the operation of inuustrial machtnery

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At this point, Mr. Cottrell of the Department of State Joined the loard i

meeting.

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In ansver toa question by in lurphy, li. Fitzgerald said. that the Intelli

since teuns mostly confined their activities to tutelligence gathering rather than

covert. action, although the teans do have the mission of creating how heyreststänce

and subtle sabotage":

12, Fitzgerald said that although Cuchas no folley guidance

for positive covert action programs of a specific sabotage nature, there to polic

guldence for leaflet drops and radio propaganda, and an example of "subtle sabotagal

would be the shorting out of a high tension power line by throwing a copper wire

over it:

Mr. Fitegorald stated that the Speclal Group approvoa-the montoly planscor the

CIA Lor Infiltrations of Illegal agents Into Cuba, and thereafter the success of

infiltrations 1s determined by such natters as heather conditions ana the regultchent

for-carrying out infiltrations in the dare of the noon. 1a: Come asked whethei

CIA has köpt lufomed about u.S. Any inflatrations Into euca, and la cavageraha

reblied that while CHA reccived notice of such activity, bone had occurred to sys

inowledge for the past 6 months.

Pectake Murphy asked whether there is avalzable any eridence of orcanized reststenco

realnst the Castro regime rithin. Cuba:

Is Fitzcerala replioa that wiile thore is

Scattered resistance it is not ciganized. He recalled that in 1962 resistance

arennizations cooposed of students and other excups had been nishtrated be the

Castro Security Service and after a time Castro roiled up the restetance groups and

smashed them completelj..The only resistance which is now active in Cuba 1s In the

form of small bands.

Referring back to li. Fitzgerald's carlier comment that the CL has. no policy

guldance with respect to the conduct of covert action programs In Cuba, M. Coyne

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Inquired as to the function of Mi. Cottzoli's Intergenartmental Coordinating

Connittee with respect to cuba. In response to this question, Mi. Cottrell

described his coordinating function, begluning with the point that the President

had requested last January that coordination be supplied to the astlulties of the

6:or TU: S. egencles which were dealing with tine.

1 or 5 Cuban exile groups.

The

Presldent alrected that there be establisned a focal point for coordination of

Dolley recoumendations and execution of approved policies astiened for implemeatation

by varlous U.S. agencies following decisions by the Executive Committee of the NSC

wlth respect to Cuba. Having been given this curdinating responsiullity, Mr: Cottrell

named Secretary of the Army Vance and Mi. Helmo of CIA tö serve on the committee,

with provision for araving upon representatives of other agencies as might be re-

ulred fron time to time. Mr. Cottrell sald that his committce 1s charged with

coordinating policy with respect to Cuba, the objectives being to prevent Cuba from

becoming a base of soviet asgression; to prevent the overt eport of nilitary equip-

nent from Cuba to other latin American countries for communist purposes, to prevent

tia export of subversive acuirities to other latin American countries from Cuba, and

seek. the renoval of the soviet presence in Cura.

Mr. Cottiell went on to say that

when CIA proposes covert actions withprospect to Cuba, the Cottrell Committee

considers the proposals and couments on them to the frecial Group, and it a policy

Issue 1s Involved in a given proposal the matter 1s referred to the Executive

Committee of the Noe for decision.

Me. Murphy asted Mr. Cottrell if ne woula stute for the Board Mi Cottrell's

concept of what U. S. pulley toward Cuba 1s today, for Instence whether the polley

1s of a defensive or an offensive character ta. Cottrell answered by saying that!

In biscopiaion that the u s nolley torid cuba is not defensive, and as an

indication of this he referred to the visit which he and Deputy Attorney General ?

Katzenbach made to Nicaraugo where a conference was held wiüh officlals of Central

American countries concerning visa and other travel controls which might be

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representatives In latin American countries. In further describing the US

polly, Mr. Cottrell sald that in his om view our everment does unt intend to

Invade Cuba except as a last resort, and our volley holas, that que liberation of

Cuba .1s the responsibility of the Cuban people themsclves. Horever, Mr Cottrell

daded, It is felt by a number of people that the time has long last when we might

expect a successful popular uprising in Cuba against the Castro regime..

Mr. Gray asted whether the witharanal of soviet troops from Cuba would alter

the point of vier just mentionca by Mr. Cottrell to the criest that we cannot hope

Ior a successiul popular uprising 1n Cuba. Me Cottrell preferred that this question

oc answerod by ir. Fitzgerald to expressed the opinion that withdrami of soviet

forces nowa not significantly affect the

situation because of the strong internal

security measures which are mintained by the Castro.

regime in Cuba.

Referring again to li. Pitagerald's eurlier statement that dIA is lacking In

¡pricy guidance on covert actions, lie Coyne inquired as to.

whether requests

for: such guidanse had been inade:

1r Fitagerald replied that a decision in this

area 1s being sought this week. Mi. Cottrell observed that previously tue government's

prime objective had been to obtain the relcase of the 22 Americans imprisoned in

Cuba, and now that this has been accomplished, Mr. Cottrell predicted that future

operations would include low level reconnaissance missions, Increased sabotage

operations, and Intensified efforts to obtain CAS action. He added that ibasmuch

es the "nolse level"' is down It 1s hoped that aggressive prograns may nor be pursued.

1a. Cottrell also said that he beijeves the time las come to begin creating tensions

In the cuban area, and he noted that critles of the caministration love been charging

that our covement has fallen into a co-cristence policy with respect to cuba

In Mr. Cottiell's opinion Castro must feel that his recent release of the

American prisoners will aid rapprochment efforts with respect to the U. S. and

Castro probably hopes that he may now quietly go on building up his communist

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Next Mi. Bruce Clark of CIA (the DD/I Area) briefed the Board with respect

to certain aspect of intelligence coverage of Cuba

Mr. Clark stated that during the perlod February 15 to Apy11 20, 1953 the

¿oviets have removed approximately 4,700 personnel from Cube.

Ci believes that most

of the 4,700 Sovlet personnel vere milltary people vecause of their age and appearance

und because there 1s little likellhood that the soviets rould be removing economic :

personnel from Cuba. CIA estimates that only 500 or 600 Soviets have arrived during

this pertod, and CIA reasons that the 4,700 sovlets who have been withdraw are

miltary personnel who have completed tours of dutj, Including some entire logistic

.CIl estinates that this leaves In. Cuba Suriet personnel totaling on the

order of "12,000 plus" Mr. Clark said that the vallalty of the later figure

depends on the validity of the original estimated total of 17, 500 Soviet personncì

1n Cuba, a figure which has arrived at on a strict table of organization basis,

taking Into account the estimaled number of persons logically required to operate

the equipment which has been doserved in Cube. In the opinion of l. Clark, the

estinated floure of 4, 700 sovicü witharavalo 1s far sounder than the previous

estimate of 17, 500 total personnel in Caba.

DIo Killian asted whether there is evidence of re-introduction of soviet

military personncl into cuba and their deployment end concealment by means of

camouflage.

Mi. Clark said that in view of the redundency of the high altitude

coverage and the fact that nothing has been seen In photography since November 1962,

evidence is to the contrary.

In ansier to Mi. Murphy's question as to what Soriet personuel are presently,

done in Cuba, lu. Clark estimated that 7,500 are consected with sul installations:

and activity, another 7, 500 are in the category of military engineers, and 2,000

are engaged in noval operations.Mr. Clark Indicated that Soviet personnel are

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scattered out over the island of Cuba and the greatest concentrations are the

2,500 to: 4,000 Soviet personnel in the 4 major Soviet armored camps. In answer

to Di. Langer!'s Question as to what the 2, 500 to 4,000 personnel are dölng, Mr.

Clark stated that their main mission has probably the furishing of training

to. Cuben military forces•

Mr. Clark said that COMINT obtained: this leek confirms

reports that Cukan pilots are recelving training in MIG-2l's.

Noting that Me. Pitacerald had stated that CIA had 4 agents In Cuba 1n 1962

and now has 4 agants in Cuba In 1903, Mi. Clifford wondered whether efforts are

being made through other latin merican countrles to Infiltrate ciondestine agents

in Cuba.

11. Eltzgerald said that efforts are being made to develop agents fron

other. Latin Averican countrles to operate in Cuba: He added that while Mi. Cliffora's

recollection has correct concering the constant figure of "illegal" agents In Cuba

as it a year ago and at the present time, nevertheless there are approximately

&i "iesident" agents in Cuba who are engaged in clandestine intelligence collection:

Messrs, Cottrell, Kirpatrick, Fitigerald and Clari departed the Board

meeting at this point

At 12:00 noon, the Eouid necting has joined by General Carroll, the

Dizestor of the Defense Mitclligence Agency and by General fuinn and Colonel

Cillis, members of General Carroll's staff.

General Corroll recalled that at a board meeting last jear he had discussed

the status of the siganization of the Defense Intelligence Agency and the responsi

bilities which had been assigned to Dil or were being considered for assignment to

VIA. General Carroll said that at this time he hould like to rolat out the present

status of organization of the DIn and the responstullities which have veen recently

assigned to 1t.

General Carroll pointed out that DIA has the responsiblllty for handling

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figure for NSA was given as 20,000 in comparison with the UK total of 6,600

personnel engaged in this type of activity.

With respect to SIGINT collection on Cuba, General Blake Informed the Boara

that in Marcia 1961 there were 10 NA Intercept positions and 5 processlng staff

personnel working on Cuba, which was increased by February 1963 to 100 positions

and 1,600 people.

Me Clifford Inquired as to whether any SILINT which was obtained

oil Cuba entered into U.S. volley decisions during the October 1962 Cuba crisis.

General Blake said that the polley makers were supplied with sIcInt on soviet shipping

to Cuba as early as the spring and carly summer of 1962. Dr. Tordella added that

also in thearly summer of 1962 lisA was able to report on the SIGINT bulldup of

the soviets In Cuba, and was able to provide Information on defense communications

networks as well as the plain text of communications sent vy the soviet Ambassador

to his superiors in Moscow.

Mr. Murphy. Inquired as to whether NSA now has an ability to penetrate soviet

cormunications to Cuba. Di. Isidella stated that in spite of the short distance

which separates Cuba from the U. so the security precautions followed by the Sovlets

would not permit a hit-and-nin commando type effort to pre-empt the communications

equipment Involved.: General Blake nad no susgestions to offer in response to

Me. Coyne's inquiry as to whether the NSA would like to extend its operations with

respect to cuba beyond those which are now programmed. General Blake dia refer

to efforts which are being nade, through direction finding methods, to pin-poins

the location of the soviet communications equipment in question, hopefully within

the range of l miler

General Blake pointed out that the Russian SCRAMBIER systen

which is employed on 2 links runing from Moscow to Havana, and which operates at

the rate of 66 words a minute, may be approaching a solution on the part of N5A -

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DI: Iordella mentioned that NSA 18 getting good results from its attack on

SILVER, the Sovlet government communications channel within Russia which handles

approsinately 40, 000 messages a quarter The exploitation of this break-through

will be increased when NSA obtains 15 million dollars in additional eguipment

during the remainder. of this year and next Dr. Tordella said that liSh 1s on the

verge of solving the soviet COPFER system which is used by the Soviet Navy and feeds.

into the SILViR network. It is expected that NSt will solve the COPPER machine

within a year.

Di. Iordella said that the Soviet ALUMINUM SCRAMBLER system is approaching

a. 508 probable solution by NSA.

Miis system has the greatest number of Soviet users,

Including those in Cuba and is jf greatest Interest to NSA. Dr. Tordella said that

the Russian ALEATROSS system, utilizing a nanual machine anü which is also in use..

in Cuba, has been the subject of NSA attack since 1945 and during the last 7 months

has show promise of possible solution. He added that the Russian diplomatic cipher

system involves the use of hand systems (one time rads) which were inaugurated

1n 1943, and which if properly used are purely rardon systems, and NSA has no

hope whatsoeves of reading this traffic

In Murphy asked whether the Russians are exploiting U. 3. diplonatic traffic.

Dr. Tordella said that he became confident that the soviets were exploiting our

diplomatic traffic in moscow on the basis of compromising radiations emanating from

the printer unit assoclated with U.s. encryption machines Accordingly, Dr. lordella

succeeded in detting a ruling to prevent the use of such U.S. machines behind

the Iron Curtain until this problem is resolved.

Di. Killian asked for General Blake's estimate of the FOCUS project at

Princeton University. General Blake said that he supports this effort because it

brings outside scientific thinking into a security-closed effort, and this can

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