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180-10111-10051

2025 RELEASE UNDER THE PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY ASSASSINATION RECORDS ACT OF 1992

JFK Assassination System

Identification Form

Agency Information

AGENCY :

RECORD NUMBER:

RECORD SERIES :

AGENCY FILE NUMBER :

HSCA

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Document Information

ORIGINATOR:

FROM:

TO:

TITLE:

HSCA

CIA

DATE: 09/24/1978

PAGES:

8

SUBJECTS:

CIA, METHODOLOGY

OSWALD; LEE HARVEY - RUSSIAN PERIOD, RETURN TO U.S.

GOLITSIN, ANATOLI

DOCUMENT TYPE: SUMMARY

CLASSIFICATION: Unclassified

RESTRICTIONS: 1A

CURRENT STATUS: Redact

DATE OF LAST REVIEW: 01/01/2003

OPENING CRITERIA:

COMMENTS:

Photocopy of note attached. Box #:222.

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KENNEDY

012544

INVESTIGATION INTERVIEW SCHEDULE

1. Identifying Information:

Name Donald Deneslya

Address 12508. Knowledge. Lane

City/State Bowie, Maryland 20715

Date of Birth

Social Security

Date September 24; 1978

Place North Arlington, Virginia

Telephone (301) 464-2361

M Or S

Spouse

Children

2. Physical Description:

Height_

Weight

Ethnic Group

Color Eyes_

Hair

Special Characteristics

3.

Personal History:

a. Present Employment: Self-employed real estate agent

Address

Telephone_

Above

Above

b. Criminal Record

1. Arrests

2. Convictions

4.

Additional Personal Information:

a.

Relative(s) : Name.

Address

b. Area frequented:

C. Remarks:

Jammi?? Hall

James P. Kelly

Investigator

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KENNEDY

SELECT COMMITTEE ON ASSASSINATIONS

Name Donald Deneslya

Address 12508 Knowledge Lane.

Date _9-24-78

Time 1:00 p.m.

Place

North Arlington,

Va

Bowie, Maryland 20715

Interview: Subject was directed to the writer by former Chief:

of Counterintelligence of the CIA. He is currently working

as a real estate agent in Maryland but is planning shortly

to leave for oslo, Norway, where he will become involved in

the importation and sale of American automobiles.

He was employed by the Central Intelligence Agency

from 1961 to 1964. During this period he became involved

as Administrative 'Assistant for a Russian defector, Golitsin,

also known as "Stone." In this capacity he was to spend

approximately five hours each day assisting Stone in the pre-

paration of a book. His "cover" was that he (Donald) was

a student at Georgetown University, although Stone knew that

he was CIA. He described this work under the crypotonym,

"AELADLE project," "AE" being the prefix relating to Soviet

Russia.

When Stone, or Golitsin as Donald referred to him,

had been processed by the CIA and his bona fides accepted. He;

was domiciled in a house in the McLean area of Virginia. He

Interviewer Signature

Typed Signature James PUKelly

Jam. Kill

Date transcribed 9-28-78

By:

br

FOrM #4-A

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says that Golitsin

was given a settlement of approximately

$200,000.00 and provided with Donald as an A.A. and guards.

Golitsin

was

first given the name "John Stone." His wife

was called "Irene" and his daughter. "Kitty." The CIA

had told him that he could write a book.

It was

Donald's feeling that Golitsin was a very

intelligent defector. His knowledge of leaks from Western

Intelligence sources was phenomenal. He turned up traitors

in many Western countries, including but not limited to:

Wennerstrom in Sweden; two West German Generals, and Willy

Brandt's secretary; a high-level Frerch leak in NATO (Cf.,

DeVosjoli information) and gave the CIA information which

led to the unmasking of "Kim" Philby, then the number two

man in British Intelligence, as a Soviet agent. Donald said

that Golitsin had been stationed in Vienna in 1954 and then

brought back to the Soviet and placed in the section of so-

viet (KGB) Intelligence which dealt with America and the

Western countries.

In this capacity he was able to read

the material which these traitors had been sending to the

Soviet

side. He had an incredible memory. and had been plan-

ning to "come over" to our side for some time so he prepped

himself on things which would be to our interest to know.

He defected in 1961 in Helsinki. Howard Osborne went over

to Helsinki to bring him back to the United States. One of

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the functions of Golitsin in Moscow had been the reading

of high-level American Intelligence Reports which convinced

him that there was a "mole" in the CIA, but he could not

identify this

person by name. While he was working

for

Golitsin, Golitsin dictated a long letter describing the

deficiencies in Western Intelligence agencies which he was

going to give to Robert Kennedy. It was Golitsin's feeling

that the Soviets were winning the Intelligence War.

He aTso woldthe Amerians that the Keb, pri

1960

had been talking about the assassination or Richar

inson should he become president.

Golitsin's principal handler was

a Colonel Leonard

Weigner, a foreign-born agent whose parents

had come out of

Russia through Mancuria. Weigner had been in Air Force

Intelligence. He became involved in the Pirigov case in

1948-49. This involved a Russian MIG pilot who defected and

brought his plane intact to the West. Weigner seemed to

get along very well with Golitsin. Others who knew him at

the time were Howard Osborne, now retired; Ed Knowles; Dave

Murphy (after 1963); John McMahon, a side-kick to Weigner

out of SR-CI and Tennent Bagley, aka "Pete" Bagley, who was

head of Counter Intelligence in the Soviet Russia Division.

He also mentioned Ted Poling, a Deputy to Bagley in SR.

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In November 1962 Donald received a strange request

from Golitsin.

Rudolf Nureyev was appearing in Chicago, Il-

linois and there was an ad in the paper that tickets were

available at a certain bookstore.

He wanted Deneslya to

contact the store and find out where Nureyev was staying..

Deneslya had heard that the KGB was planning to kidnap or

kill Nureyev:

Deneslya told the writer that a Charles Bohr,

CIA doctor, was the case officer on Golitsin. Bohr was a

psychiatrist. Deneslya said that he never heard anyone

even remotely suggest that Golitsin was "paranoid" until

he heard about the testimony of ex-CIA officer John Hart

before HSCA. It was his feeling that in 1963 the Agency

had

I great respect for Golitsin because of the information

which he was providing. There were times when they would

get exasperated with him because he would sometimes go over

the heads of the

people he was dealing with if he didn't

think they were reacting to his information. Golitsin was

apprehensive about Soviet world intentions and made no bones

about it.

He knew how widely the Soviets had

penetrated

other intelligence agencies.

He told us about Felfe (ph.)

and Klemens who had penetrated the Gehlen Organization of

West German Intelligence which was the same as penetrating

the CIA because the Gehlen group was an extension of CIA.

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From February to July 1963, Golitsin went to England to

advise the British on the extent of Philby's damage. Deneslya

says that when he returned to this country the attitude of

some people in the SR Division had changed towards Golitsin.

He detected a hostility towards Golitsin which had not been

there before.

When Donald first came into the CIA he worked in the

Foreign Documents Division. Among the various types of re-

ports which came across his desk were "contact" reports

which filtered in from the many contact divisions which

the Agency had around the world. One in particular caught

his eye, circa July-August 1963. It concerned an American

re-defector, a Marine, who would be returning to the United

States "with his family." This ex-Marine had worked in

Minsk in a radio factory. The report, which Deneslya says

came out of New York City, did not mention this defector

by name. This, in itself, was not unusual because the Con-

tact Division liked to conceal sources. He said the report

identified this person as a former Marine "cpl." or "cpt.",

which Deneslya felt could mean corporal or captain. He

was certain they were talking about Lee Oswald.

Deneslya said we could find this report probably in

• the Industrial Registry for the radio factory in Minsk. He

said there was only one radio factory in Minsk. This Registry

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is maintained by the CIA at Langley, Virginia headquarters

and he thinks it was on the second floor in corridor "H."

The fact that the contact report was out of New York was

not significant because the report could have originated

in Moscow and was rerouted and rewritten in New York, again

to conceal the point of origin.

He also told me that it was his experience that some-

times the Agency, when they want to surface material in the

"overt" side of the CIA, will say that it came from that side

when in fact it did not.

Deneslya said that it was also his information that the

Russians sent over "dispatched" agents from time to time.

He recalls that at one time there was discussion of an agent

who was caught because the Russians stamped his passport

twice at different pages with the same stamp but with a dif-

ferent date and this game him away. He did not recall the

agent's name.

Denesly said that the Committee should determine who

made out the #201 on Oswald--who opened it and what division

they were in. He said that about a year after he gave testi-

mony before the Senate Intelligence Committee (1975) he saw

a report in the newspapers that someone in the CIA had recom-

mended that Lee Harvey Oswald be contacted.

Donald

gave the writer a written authorization to in-

spect his Senate Intelligence Committee testimony.

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