Originator: FBI
From: THILL, EDWARD J.
To: SAC
Document date: 01/17/1964
Document type: PAPER-TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

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JFK Assassination System

Identification Form

Date:

4/9/2018

Agency Information

AGENCY: FBI

RECORD NUMBER : 124-10229-10495

RECORD SERIES: BU

AGENCY FILE NUMBER:

62-1827-58

Document Information

ORIGINATOR: FBI

FROM: THILL, EDWARD J.

TO :

SAC

TITLE :

DATE: 01/17/1964

PAGES:

3

SUBJECTS :

CP, ACT

DOCUMENT TYPE: PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

CLASSIFICATION: Unclassified

RESTRICTIONS: 4

CURRENT STATUS :

Redact

DATE OF LAST REVIEW: 11/05/1998

OPENING CRITERIA: INDEFINITE

COMMENTS :

v9.1

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United States Government

CONFIXENTIAL

MEMORANDUM

Date:

JAN 171964

TO

FROM :

SAC (100-4379-69)

SA EDWARD J. THILI

SUBJECT:

004849-4803 R01/51

CP, USA

NEW YORK DISTRICT

BUFFALO DIVISION

ORGANIZATION

IS. - C

ATT, INPORITE AGRONT A TIED"

WHERE SHOAN CORRUISE.

Source

Reliability,

BU 245-S 104X4

Has fürnished reliable

information in the past

Conceal

Date of Activity

Date Furnished

Furnished To

SA EDWARD J. THILL

Authenticated

12/12/63

Location

(134-372A-290%(u)

BU 245-s furnished the following: (C

1 - 134-3717000

1'-

100-13322

SY

RUDNER

7 - 100-14562

ANN RUDER)

1

100-3934 ROSE TOURALCHUK

1

100-2080 JOHN TOURALCHUK

-

100-14568

JOHN MC KENZIE)

X24x79 9803-

BASHIC

Declassity on

OADR

JFK MASK HOME

о ну

100-14567• (IVORY MC KENZIE

100-11900 (MARTY ZELMAN)

62-1827 (ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT KENNEDY)

HHHF

100-17002/ NORM ROGGOW)

100-4379-84 SECURITY LEASURES

100-11950 (COMINFIL NAACP)

100-4379-116 (COMMUNIST INFLUENCE

IN RACIAL MATTERS)

EJTijny

(14)

62-1822-38

' Searched

Indexed..

'Serialized. led..

JAN 17 1964

FBI-BUFFALO

NW 53130

DocId:32179281

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BU 100-4379-69

"Buffalo, New

November 29,

JOLK

1963814

"On the evening of

November 27, 1963;

a meeting of the Erie County

Communist Party

took place at the home of Sy Rudner who lives

on St. James Place in Buffalo. Present were

Sy and Ann Rüdner', Rose and John touralchuk,

John and Ivory Mokenzle, and Marty Zelman. (KU)

"They talked about the murder of

President Kennedy. They took the position

that it was not reported in the newspapers;

but it was actually done by others in Texas,

especially those on the far right.

They

also thought that the murder of Lee Oswald,

the accused killer of President Kennedy,.

was

a cover-up and that the police could have

stopped Oswald's death.

They looked upon

President Kennedy's death and Oswald's as a

big piot.

John McKerzie said that he believed

Oswald killed Kennedy, but ris motive 1s

unknown.

Sy, Marty, and the Touralchuks said

that Oswald did not kill the late President,

but that he was framed and was being blamed

as the killer. flu)

"They talked about Norm Roggow

still trying to get into

the Communist Party.

They said that Norm does not act like a

Party person.

They criticized him for being

too open about the Party and falling to cover

his feelings about the Party.

They suspect

him because he is so very busy about every-

thing and too anxious to get into the Party

and also too active in the National Association

for the Advancement of Colored People.

this makes them suspicious of him

They

don't plan to let him come into the Party,

but they will continue to check further on

him.

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