CR 134-2951-1
Agency: FBI
Originator: FBI
From: HQ
To: NK
Document date: 10/19/1954
Document type: PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

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JFK Assassination System

Identification Form

Agency Information

Date:

5/5/2015

AGENCY:

FBI

RECORD NUMBER:

124-90062-10024

RECORD SERIES :

HQ

AGENCY FILE NUMBER : CR SEE TITLE

Released under the John

issassination Records

Collection Act of 19g2

144 USC 2107 Notel.

Case#:NW 53074 Date:

Document Information

ORIGINATOR: FBI

FROM:

NK

TO: HQ

TITLE: [Restricted]

DATE:

PAGES:

SUBJECTS :

10/19/1954

5

MARVIN KANTOR

NATHALIE COX LILLY

DOCUMENT TYPE :

PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

CLASSIFICATION :

Unclassified

RESTRICTIONS: 4

CURRENT STATUS :

Redact

DATE OF LAST REVIEW:

06/16/1998

OPENING CRITERIA: INDEFINITE

COMMENTS :

MEMO

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STANDARD FORM NO. 64

Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

TO

DATE:

DIRECTOR, FBI

October 19, 1954

FROM

134-447

SUBJECT:

NATHALIE

COX. LILLY

nee Nathalie Cox,

aka:

Mrs. Alfred

Caly

PSI

ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED

HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED

DATE 13-1-448 SP.& MAC JESe

(JFK)

INTERVIEW WITH ALFRED AND NATHALIE LILLY

On September 20, 1954, ALFRED LILLY, 432 West 5th

Street, Plainfield, New Jersey,

Phone Plainfield 6-7767, tele-

phonically contacted SA BILL WILLIAMS and advised that he had

some information concerning a person whom he suspected of being^

a Communist.

On September 20, 1954, SA BILL WILLIAMS interviewed

ALFRED LILLY and his wife, NATHALIE LILLY, nee COX.

ALFRED stated that for six months or more, LENORE.

KANTOR, who works at UNITED PLUMBING AND SUPPLY COMPANY,

West. Front Street, Plainfield, N.J., as a secretary, has

been visiting their home and is very friendly with NATHALIE.

He said that KANTOR is very good to his children and often

brings them books and gifts, but he believes that she is a

Communist. He feels this way because of literature which.

she distributes, which literature is written by CP leaders,

and some of which concerns race and labor agitation.:. He

said KANTOR does not believe in God and often argues this

point with his wife, who firmly believes in God.

that KANTOR drops into their home on almost any

occasion

see his wife.

He stated that he would be interested in

stopping these visits if at all possible.

NATHALIE LILLY advised that she first met KANTOR

at a civic function of some sort and since then KANTOR has

tried to make herself a friend of NATHALIE. She stated that

she believes KANTOR is a Communist for the same reasons as

does her husband. Shoused a that KANTOR apparently confides

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LETTER TO DIRECTOR, FBI

NK 134-441

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October 19, 1954

in her on many matters, with the exception of KANTOR's possible

Communist activities.

NATHALIE also knows of the KANTOR

family.

NATHALIE furnished the following information regarding

KANTOR:

LENORE KANTOR'S family are well aware that LENORE is

a Communist, and they are bitterly against Communism but their

love for LENORE keeps them from making her leave home.

They

often speak of how bad it is that LiNoRe, thinks as she does,

according to LENORE. LENORE's father, ABRAHAMAKANTOR, owns

the UNTIED PLUMBING AND SUPPLY COMPANY. LENORE'S mother, is

ROSE KANTOR. LENORE's two brothers are MARVIN KANTOR and NORMAN.

KANTOR.

MARVIN is partially paralysed and NORMAN once ran for

Plainfield City Council.

lives in Mexico, but a girl from the New York-New Jersey area

was going to marry him, names unknown. LENORE spends much of

her time distributing

the literature and booklets described

by ALFRED LILLY.

In the Fall of 1953, Mrs. LILLY told LENORE

that she (Mrs. LILLY) was going to Milwaukee, Wisconsin, for

a visit. LENORE gave her $50.00 and told her to stop at

Chicago, Illinois,

and attend a conference. of the National

Negro Congress, which was being held there. Mrs. LILLY

registered at the conference but did not stay for the meetings.

Apparently, LINORE seems to have all the money she needs.

The Bureau's jurisdiction in Internal Security matters

was explained to the LILLYs.

Mrs. LILLY said that she

would continue friendly relations with LENORE and would see

if she could determine any of LENORE's activities in the field

of Communism, and would advise the Newark Office.

It is noted that LENORE KANTOR is the subject of an

SM-C investigation in the Newark Office, Bureau file 100-367098,

Newark file 100-31013.

a member of the CP as late as 1950, at which time the informant

left the Party, and LENORE has been a member of the CP since

about 1945. The file also shows that she has recently been

In Mexico, where she met WALTERy LISLEY, alleged agent of

the Chinese Communist Government.

The information in the file corroborated the information

furnished by Mrs. LILLY.

Mrs. LILLY appears to be a high type Negro woman, has

a high school education,

and appears

to be very intelligent and

sincere in cooperating with the FBI.

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LETTER TO DIRECTOR, FBI

NK 134-441

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October 19, 1954

follows:

Background Information regarding the LILLYs is as

Name:

ALFRED LILLY

Date of Birth:

11/14/5500

Place

of Birth:

Jersey 01ts, N.J.

Race:

Negro

Education:

Plainfield High School

, (one year only)

Military Service:

U.S. Army 1942-44

Employment:

The Great Atlantic and Pacific

Tea Company,

605 West Front Street,

Plainfield, N.J.

(past 8 years)

In Produce Department Irom

8:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M.

Telephone PL - 6 - 9828.

Height:

Weight:

,6'2"

190 lbs.

Name:

Date of Birth:

Place of Birth:

Race:

Education:

NATHALIE LILLY

4/19/15

Plainfield, N.J.

Negro

Graduated Plainfield High School,

Employment:

1935

Cornell--Dublier,

South Plainfield, N.J.

In Winding Department

from 4:30 P.M. to 12:00 midnight

Previous Employments:

Art Color Printers,

Washington Avenue,

Dubout 3, month

months during World War II);

camp Kilmer,

Stelton, N.J.

(in Post Exchange, during World War II);

Frederick Douglas

Hospital,

Lombard Street,

Philadelphia (now merged with Mercy

Hospital, Philadelphia)

(Student dietician during World War II)

Height:

Weight:

Build:

Complexion:

5'4"

140 lbs.

Stocky

Medium

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LETTER TO DIRECTOR, FBI

NK 134-441

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October 19, 1954

CHECK OF NEWARK FILES

No identifiable information was contained in the files

of the Newark Office re NATHALIE. Or ALFRED LILLY.

BIRTH DATA

The records of the Bureau of Vital Statistics for the

State of New Jersey, State House, Trenton, New Jersey, as

checked on September 22, 1954, by SA JOSEPH W. LUCCA, reflected

the following information regarding NATHALIE COX:

Birth:

4/19/15, Plainfield, N.J.

to FITZMERALE COX,

males,

N. JI

born Furmah,

ALabama,

NATHALIE COX's mother was age 29 at the time and

was

a housewife. NATHALIE's father was age 31 at the time and was

employed as a tailor.

CREDIT AND CRIMINAL

The records of the Plainfield Credit Bureau, Plainfield,

N.J., were checked on September 29, 1954, by SE CLIFFORD M.

WERNER,

and the records contained a report dated April 8, 1948,

reflecting that NATHALIE LILLY was then employed at Art Color

Printing Company in the Bindery Department, and that credit

accounts at Plainfield banks. and financial companies were

satisfactory. There was no derogatory information.

Sergeant E. FLYNN checked the records in the Plainfield

Police Department on September 29, 1954, and advised SE CLIFFORD M.

WERNER that there was no information regarding NATHALIE LILLY

or ALFRED LILLY.

Form FD-9 requesting an Identification Record for

NATHALIE LILLY and ALFRED LILLY has been submitted to the

- Identification Division.

INFORMANT CHECKS

The following informants reported that NATALIE LILLY

and ALFRED LILLY are unknown to them:

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LETTER TO DIRECTOR, FBI

NK 134-441

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October 19, 1954

NK 1854-S, contacted

October 13, 1954, by SA WINFRED

ELDER JESTER.

NK 1916-S, contacted October 11, 1954, by SA BILL

WILLIAMS.

Other informant checks will be made.

Additional background information regarding the subject

will be obtained.

CONTACT WITH NATHALIE LILLY ON OCTOBER 12, 1954

On October 12, 1954, NATHALIE LILLY was contacted by

SAS BILL WILLIAMS and ROBERT J. KIRWAN to secure additional

information regarding her background. She advised that she is

presently Corresponding Secretary of the Plainfield Chapter

of the NAACP, but that she knows of no Communist infiltration.

She advised that she has seen LENORE KANTOR two times since

September 20, 1954, having seen her on October 12, 1954•

said that just prior to the contact by the Agents on October 12,

1954, LENORE had brought a letter to her, which letter protested

against Universal Military Training. LENORE wanted her to

send the letter to the Editor of the Plainfield newspaper with

NATHALIE's name as the author.. NATHALIE told LENORE that she

would think it over.

NATHALIE advised that she does not think

she will send the letter to the editor as it might jeopardize

her position.

The Agents were impressed with NATHALIE's intelligence,

cooperation, and viewpoint, and feel that she is in a good

position to furnish information of interest to the Bureau,

especially regarding LENORE KANTOR. It is also felt that she

may be activated into the CP or a Communist front organization.

Authority is requested to contact NATHALIE LILLY

as a PSI.

It is not believed that ALFRED LILLY is in a

position to furnish information, inasmuch as LENORE KANTOR.

does not get along with him too

well.

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