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The Attorey General

pirector, FBI

J. S. HOUSE SELECI COMMITTEE OUT

INITILIGENCE ACIIVIZIES (ESC)

2 - Mr. J. A. Mintz

{1 - Mx. J. B. Hotis)

1 - Mr. W. R. Wannall

11/21/75

1 - Mi. W. O. Cregar

1 - Mr. L. E. Dean

Reference is nade to ISC letter dated lovember 4,

1975, requesting delivery of FBI files concerning liatilda

Zirmerman.

Inclosed for your approval and foruarding to the

ESC is the original of a remorandum with enclosuras which

constitutos this Barean's responge to the above requests.

A copy of this memorandum is being furniched far

your records,

Enclosures (23)

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1 - The Deputy Attorney General

Attention: lichael E. Shaheon, I•

Special Counsel for

Intelligence Coordination

LED: 1ij li:

(9)

REG I 9: 112144-215-

• DEC 121975

Assoc. Dir. -

Dep. AD Adm. -

Dep. AD Iny, _

Asst. Dir.:

Admin. -

Comp. Syst. _

Ext. Affairs —

Files & Com. -

ENCL BEHIND!

FILE

Gen. Inv. —

Ident. -

Inspection .

Intell. -

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Laboratory

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Training -

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2 - ME.

J. A. Mintz

(1

- Mr. J. B. Hotis)

1 - Mo. W.

R. Wannall

1 - Mr. W. O. Cregar

1-

Hr. I.

E. Dean

Novenber 21, 1975

U. S. HOUSE SELECT COMJITIES

ON INITELIGENCE ACTIVITIES (ESC)

RE: MATILDA ZIMMERMAN

Reference is made to HSC letter dated

lovember 1, 1975, requesting delivery of the FEI

files of liatilda Zimmerman.

In accordance with established pro-

aedures, Bureau file concerning latilda Zimmerman

has been reviewed and appropriately excised

has been extractod therotron. This material is

enclosed.

Enclosures - 21

1 - The Attorney General

ORIGINAL AND ONE FURNISHED TO ATTORNEY GENERAL

LED: mak mo.K

(8)

Assoc. Dir. -

Dep. AD Adm. -

Dep. AD Inv. _

Asst. Dir.:

Admin..

Comp. Syst. -

Ext. Affairs —

Files & Com. _

Gen. Inv. _

Ident. _

Inspection -

Intell. -

Laboratory -

Plan. & Eval. -

Spoc. Inv. -

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5-140 (Rev. 1-21-74) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

WASHINGTON, D. C. 20535

Addressee:

ULTR EX LHM

Cartion of Document:

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

• Memo

• Report dated

11/21/75

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

11/4/75 request - Matilda Zimmerman

Originating Office

Delivered by Rechard 1: ho

Feceived by:

linderte

Title:

4.9

Return this receipt to the Intelligence Division, FBI

р. он: 11/20/2,

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SEE INSTRUCTIONS ON REVERSE

BEFORE COMPLETING.

CLASSIFY AS APPROPRIATE

FROM:

TO:

Intelligence Community Staff

ATTN: Central Index

13X

SUBJECT: Abstract of Information Provided to Select Committees

1. HOW

PROVIDED (check appropriate term.

If a document was made available

review but not transmitted, so note.)

• | DOCUMENT BRIEFING

INTERVIEW,

[TESTIMONY

OTHER

3. TO WHOM PROVIDED (check appropriate

term;

add specific names if appropriate)

12. DATE PROVIDED

11/21/25

SSC

IDENTIFICATION (provide descriptive data for documents;

give name or identification number of briefer,

interviewee, testifier and subject)

Hocorandan and enclomtes

5. IN

spoNsor lie date of loo, nor deto, esponse to forsal request, other-

HSC lottox 11/4/75

6. CLASSIFICATION OF

U

?. Key undo fentor te appropriate key words from the list provided separately; If key words not listed are

Inforsation handling

Intelligence collection

8. SUMMARY (see

reverse side

before completing

this item)

Underlala roloting to listilda Zimornon.

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IN CONUECTION WITH HOUSTUDY

TREAT AS YELLOW

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INSTRUCTIONS

• Type or print clearly in ink.

• Indicate classification of the abstract top and bottom.

• Date the abstract and put on any internal control numbers required.

• "FROM" entry should clearly identify the organization providing the

information.

• If additions (as when a copy of document sent to SSC is later sent to

HSC) or changes to a previously submitted form are necessary, submit a

copy of the original abstract, with the change indicated.

SPECIFIC ITEM NO. 8. SUMMARY - enter brief narrative statement describing

substance of information and showing relationship to Intelligence Community

matters if appropriate. Any feedback or evidence of investigatory interests

should be noted.

Commitments made to supply additional information should be

noted. Additionally, certain administrative information may be entered here,

e.g., restrictions on review of a document, if document was paraphrased, whether

interviewee is current or former employee, etc. If actual document or transcript

is provided, that fact should be noted and no summary is required. Additional

pages may be attached if necessary.

i .,

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2 - Mr. J. A. Mntz

(1 - Mr. J. B. Hotis)

1 - Mr. W. R. Wannall

1 - Mr. W. 0. Gregar

November 14, 1975

1 - Mr. R. L. Shackelford

1. = VI.

U. 3. HOUSE SELECT COMMITTED

I. J. McNiff

ON INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES HSC

RE: INFORMATION CONCERNING INSTITUTE

FOR POLICY STUDIES (IPS)

Reference is made to HSC letter dated October 23, 1975,

which requests, in part;

"access to all files at FBI concerning

the Institute for Policy Studies, Hashington, D. G."

In accordance with an agreement reached November 6,

1975, between HSC Staff Member Ellen Miller end FBI Special

Agent Thomas J. Movili, this bureau, in tesponse to the above

request, has reviewed the Bureau fale concerning IPS for the

purpose of making available to the HSe all infoimation therein

setting torth the reasons tos inicuatiag aud conrinuing che

Investigation of tis, all FBl Headquarters direction and guidance

afforded this investigation as well as reports containing the

results of the investigation.

Also in accordance with a request of 1s.

Millex,

Supra, made on November 13, 1975g

that the material be delivered

rather than access being granted therato, pertinent material

described above will be furnished along with a copy of this

memorantum

1 - The Attorney General

1.

(IPS)

Assoc. Dir..

(10)

Dep. AD Adm. NOTE:

Dep. AD Inv. -

Asst, Dir.:

HSC has indicated that this Bureau's investigation of

IPS will be one of the topics on the agenda of the HSC hearing

Comp Syst. scheduled for 11/18/75. It is noted that this Bureau is currently :

F. Involved in civil litigation with IPS. The Department has advised

Files&com. in response to an inquiry from Legal Counsel Division,

Ident. _

that this Bureau should furnish material responsive to the HSC

Inspection request concerning IPS.

Loboratory

Plon. & Eval. -

Spec. Inv. -

Training

Legal Coun

Telephone Rm. -

Director Sec'y —

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FBI.

OFFICE OF THE DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL

WASHINGTON, D.C. 20590

OCT 2 9 1975

TO:

Mla FROM:

SUBJECT:

John A. Mintz, Assistant Director

begal Counsel Division

Federal Bureau of Investigation

Michael E. Shaheen, Jr.

Special Counsel for Intelligence

Coordination

ouse Select Committee Letter Dated

October 28, 1975

finfo,

Attached is a letter from the House Select

Committee dated October 28•

Please arrange for an

appropriate and prompt response.

#I leby them to AG Can to HSC "/18/15 RPK/

#2 let i ehm to AG"/4/25; Chato HSO"/4/25 ROH/ dub

#3 let y Chim to AG "/18/15; Cha to HSC "418/25 RDH/ens, myg

# f leby ehm to AG "l14/75; thm to ISC "/14/75 TIM/myz

# 5 left thm to AG "114/25: them to HIC"4/25 HWD/ pal

#6 let + Chm to A6 11/5/25, lhem to HSC IN/5/zi REm/ ery

cc: Paul Daly

#7 lett ehm to AG "10/25; lhm to HSC "/s RDH/ dont

#8 leh+ lhm to AG "14/5; lhm to HSC "/4/15 RDH/ dant

#9 let+ Chm to AG "/14/15; lhim to HSC "/4/15 TSM/ IRA

#1o deby ehm to A G 11/5/5; thm to HSC 19/5/25 RLM em

#Il leto ehm to AG "/18/15; Chim to HSC "(18/25 RDS/ els

#12 lebt Chim to AG "/4/25; than to HSC "/4/25 RDH/ dot.

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DEC 121975

10-30-7

ANGLOSUR:

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OCT 2 ? 1975

TO:

FROM:

SUBJECT:

John A. Mintz, Assistant Director

Legal Counsel Division

Federal Bureau of Investigation

Michael E. Shaheen, Jo.

Special Counsel for Intelligence

Coordination

House Seleat Committee Letter Dated

October 28, 1975

Attached is a letter from the House Select

Committee dated October 28. Please arrange for an

appropriate and prompt response.

cc:

Paul. Daly

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'...?.

. OTIS G. PIKE, N.J., CHAIRMAN

ROBERT

WEAVING

•ARY, ILL

N, LA.

• MOMAN YOURS CAL

JAMES ", JUNNISON, COLO,

ROBERT W, XASTEN, JR., WIS.

LES ASPIN, WIS.

DALÈ MILFORD, TEX.

PHILIP &1. HAYES, IND.

WILLIAM LEHMAN, FLA.

!

A. 'SEARLE FIELD, STAFF DIRECTOR

AARON B. DONNER, COUNSEL

TELEPHONE: (202) 225,9731

Select Committee on Intelligence

H.S. House of Representatives

Mashington, D.C. 20515

October 28, 1975

Mr. Michael Shaheen

Spec. Counsel for Intel.Coordination

Department of Justice

Washington, D.C.

Dear Mr. Shaheen:

Further to this Committee's investigation under H.Res. 591, please arrange

the following:

1. Access to any and all files,

memoranda, and other records of FBI

concerning U.S. Recording Comapny, 1347 South Capitol St. Wash. D.C.;

2. Pursuant to our letter of October 9, 1975, access to any and al

nvestigative files at F.B.I. concerning Matilde Zimmerman, a member o

the Socialist Workers Party (SWP);

3. Access to any and all investigative files at F.B.I. concerning

Peter Camejo, SWP;

4. Access to any and all files at F.B.I. concerning the Institute for

Policy Studies, Washington, D.C.;

5. The access requested in our letter of October 20, 1975, concerning

John Forbes Kerry and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, from 1971 to present.

6. Access to any and all files at F.B.I. concerning the Union of

American Hebrew Congregations, the Community Book Shop, and the Redhouse

Bookstore, all of Washington, D.C.;

7. The access requested formerly in our letter of October 3, 1975,

concerning Robert W. Hardy and William Lemmer. (please note that our former

request specified an October 10, 1975 deadline);

8. The access formerly requested in our letter of September 24, 1975,

concerning chard d, Burton please sate that our letter specified a

deadline of October 1, 1975);

RECEIVED

DCT 28 10/5

ENCLOSURE

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• 5.1

Mr. Michael Shaheen

Page 2

October 28, 1975

9. Access to any and all files at F.B.I. concerning Earl Robert

Merritt, Jr-;

Sander Ace to ept and 2 lites St B. 3 conten Donald eno

11. Access to any and all files concerning the Center for the Study

of Democratic Institutions, Santa Barbara, California;

12. Production of those records already reviewed by our staff,

concerning Bruce Bloy (SWP) and Marc Rich (SWP) ;

With respect to the files requested, it is assumed that the names of

FBI Special Agents will NOT have been excised for the purposes of our

review.

Because of the severe time deadlines imposed on this committee, please

make the arrangements for access immediately.

Sincerely,

Staff Director

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WASHINGTON, D. C. 20535

Addressee:

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

ULTR

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• Memo

[Report dated _ 11/14/75

Caption of Document:

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

10/28/75 request

Originating Office:

Al; - Date: 11-14 - 15

Return this receipt to the Intelligence Division, FBI

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a NOTE: SEE INSTRUCTIÓNS ON REVERSE

BEFORE COMPLETING.

CLASSIFY AS APPROPRIATE

TO:

Intelligence Community Staff

FROM:

ATTN: Central Index

FBI

SUBJECT: Abstract of Information Provided to Select Committees

If a document was made available

& DOCUMENT |

BRIEFING

INTERVIEW

TESTIMONY

OTHER

3.

TO WHOM PROVIDED (check appropriate

term; add specific names if appropriate)

2. DATE PROVIDED

11/24/75

SSC

HSC

4. IDENTIFICATION (provide descriptive data for documents;

give'name or identification number

of briefer,

interviewee, testifier and subject)

lemorandun and enclosures

HSC 10/28/75

G. CLASSIFICATION OF

doris Center

U

7. KEy "orde fint rote paragiate key worda from the list provided separately; if key words not listed are

Intelligence collection

8. SUMMARY (see reverse side before completing this item)

Moterials relating to Institute for Policy Studies

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ORIGINAL VIA LIAISON TO CENTRAL, COMMUNITY INDEX

IN CONNECTION WITH HOUSTUDY

TREAT AS YELLOW

CLASSIFY AS APPROPRIATE

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INSTRUCTIONS

• Type or print clearly in ink.

• Indicate classification of the abstract top and bottom.

• Date the abstract and put on any internal control numbers required.

• "FROM" entry should clearly identify the organization providing the

information.

• If additions (as when a copy of document sent to SSC is later sent to

HSC) or changes to a previously submitted form are necessary, submit a

copy of the original abstract, with the change indicated.

SPECIFIC ITEM NO. 8. SUMMARY - enter brief narrative statement describing

substance of information and showing relationship to Intelligence Community

matters if appropriate.

Any feedback or evidence of investigatory interests

should be noted.

Commitments made to supply additional information should be

noted. Additionally, certain administrative information may be entered here,

e.g., restrictions on review of a document, if document was paraphrased, whether

interviewee is current or former employee, etc. If actual document or transcript

is provided, that fact should be noted and no summary is required. Additional

pages may be attached if necessary.

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2 - Mr. J. A. Mintz

(1 - Mr. J. B. Hotis)

1 - ME.

W. R. Wannall

1 - Mr. W. O. Gregar

The Attorney General

November 14, 1975

-MY.

R.

Lep

T.

Shackelford

siy. s

DirectEc i2-62-116464-214

J. McNiff

• S. HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

LON INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (HSC)

Reference is made to letter from HSC dated October 28,,

1975, requesting certain information from the FBI.

Attached for your approval and forwarding to the

HSC is the original of a memorandum which constitutes this

Bureau's response to the HSC request for Bureau materials

concerning the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS).

A copy of the memorandum is being provided for your

P/D

records.

Enclosures (2)

1/14/25

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I - The Deputy Attorney General

Michael E. Shaheen, Jr.

Special Counsel for

Intelligence Coordination

1 -

(11)

(IPS)

Assoc. Dir.

Dep. AD Adm. -

Dep. AD Inv. _

Asst. Dir.:

Admin.

Comp. Syst.

Ext. Affairs

Files & Com. -

Gen. Inv. -

Ident. -

Inspection.

Intell. -

Laboratory.

Plan. & Eval. -

"ENCLOSURI IN BULKY ROOM"

Spoc. Inv. -

Training -

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Telophone Rm..

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The Attorney General

Director, FBI

U. S. HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

ON INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (HSC)

2 - Mr. J. A. Mintz

(1 - MI. J. B. Hotis)

1 - Mr. W. R. Wannall

1 - Mr. J. W. Dalseg

November 5, 1975

1 - Mr. W. O. Cregar

1 - Mr. T. J. MeNiff

pick

Enclosed for your approval and forwarding to the

HSC is the original of a memorandum, with attached lists,

which is in response to questions 1, 2, 3 and 4 as contained

in the HSC request dated October 15, 1975.

A copy of this memorandum, with attached lists,

is enclosed for your records.

Enclosures (10)

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I - The Deputy Attorney General

Attention: Michael E. Shaheen, Jr.

Special Counsel for

AJD:mjg/1hb Ihb Intelligence Coordination

(10)

to Dig. 1 1/7/41

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Assoc. Dir. _

Dep. AD Adm. -

Dep. AD Inv. _

Asst. Dir.:

Admin.

Comp. Syst._

6- ENG

Ext. Affairs -

Files & Com..

Gen. Inv. -

Ident. -

com

Inspection

Intell.

Laboratory

Plon. & Eval. =

Spoc. Inv._

Training

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2 - Mr.

J. A. Mintz

(1 - Mr. J. B. Hotis)

1 - Mr. W. R. Wannall

1 - Mr. J. W. Dalseg

1 - Mr. W. O. Cregar

1 - Mr. I. J. McNiff

Hovember §, 1975

U. S. HOUSE SELECT COMMINTEE

TO STUDY GOVERNNENZAL OPERATIONS

WITH RESPECT TO INTELLIGENCE ACTIVIIIES (HSG)

RE:

HSC REQUEST DATED OCIOBER 15, 1975,

CONGERNTING VARRANTLESS ELECTRONIC

SURVEILLANCES AND SURREPZITIOUS ENTRIES

The HSG, In a letter dated October 15, 1975, to

Michael S. Shaheen, JI., Spectal Counsel for Intelligence

Coordination, U. S, Department of Justice, Hashington, D. C.,

requested, among other things, the following:

1. A list of all varrantless wiretaps against

domestic targets conducted between 1970 and 1975.

2 A list of all other varrantless electronic

surveillances conducted against domestic targets between 1970

and 1975.

3. Alist of all break-ins conducted by the FBI

between 1970 and 1975.

4.

A list of all other trespasses conducted by the

FBI between 1970 and 1975.

Assoc. Dir. _

Dep. AD Adm. =

Dep. AD Inv. -

Asst. Dir.:

Admin.

Comp. Syst.-

Ext. Affairs

Files & Com. -

Gen. Inv. -

Ident. -

Pursuent to instructions received from Mir. Steven

Blackhurst, Assistant Special Counsel for Intelligence

Coordination, Department of Justice, these questions are

being answered in the form of lists which identify targets

in generic terms. The lists, which are believed responsive

to these queries, are attached hereto.

Inspection -

Intell. i

Laboratory .

1.

Telephone Surveillances on Domestic Taïgets

Plan. & Eval. -

Spec. Inv. -

Training

January 1, 1970, through June 30, 19730021

Legal Coun. -

-AJD:mjg/Ihb|hb

ORIGINAL AND ONE

copy

• TO AG

Telephone _= " MAIL ROOM I

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U. S, LOUDS SELECE CONDIATE OU TIDELLTCLSCS LCITIZIES (ISC)

CANCERNIE SURVDELLANORS AND SUILDICIZIDUS STAIN

2.

Microphone Survalilences on tonastie Insgots

Jenvary I, 1070, through juse 30, 1975.

3. Perzeus of treat-ins (Durreptitious Intries)

in constection with licrophone Survolllances, Jamaxy I, 1570,

through juns 30, 1975.

4e inrgets of Irespoos (surceptitious Latrics)

not related to literophone Surveillances, Janucry 1, 1970,

through June 30, 1975.

unclosures (4)

1 - The Attorney General

NOTE:

By letter 10/15/75, HSC requested the above which

was pursuant to a briering given Congressman McClory and

members of HSC by INTD on 10/10/75. Subsequent to this request,

Mr. Blackhurst advised that it had been decided that only

generic lists would be submitted to the Committee in response

to these queries and, based on his instructions, these four

questions are being responded to by the submission of the

attached generic lists.

Per tir. Blackhurst, in accordance

with White House instructions, EPCI and Flooding Technique

surveillances are not included in lists three and four.

It is noted the lists on technical and microphone surveillances

pertain to only domestic targets. The entries under

categories "Foreign Intelligence Agents, Foreign Intelligence

Contacts and Foreign Intelligence Agents Suspects" are individ-

uals, involved in Foreign Intelligence operations, who are

nonetheless American citizens. Therefore, per the Department's

definition of a domestic target as stated

by Steven Blackhurst,

these were included.

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TELEPHONE SURVEILLANCES ON

DOMESTIC TARGETS

JANUARY 1, 1970 THROUGH JUNE 30, 1975

Foreign Intelligence

Agents

Foreign Intelligence

Contacts

Communist Party

Functionaries

Headquarters, Basic

Revolutionary Group

Coverage of Classified

Information Leak

Black Extremist Leader

Militant Black Extremist

Organ.

Foreign Diplomatic

Official's Contact

New Left Oriented

Campus Group

Arab Torrorist

Affiliate

Pro-Palestine Group

Leader of Revolutionary

Group

Arab Terrorist Activist

1970 1971. 1972

1973 1974

2

1

4

3

4

3

January 1, 1975 -

June 30, 1975

1

1

1

10

1

1

1

1

10

1

1

5

1

1

1

1

2

7

2

nel without the express approval of the FBl.

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Racial Extremist Group

Black Extremist Group

Affiliate

Propaganda Outlet for

Middle East Based

Organization

Pro-Israeli Militant

Group

New Left Oriented

Campus Group Faction

New Left Oriented

Campus Group Contact

Publication of Clandes-

tine Underground Group

Dedicated to Strategic

Sabotage

New Left Activist

Investigation of

Clandestine Underground

Group Dedicated to

Strategic Sabotage

Militant Black

Extremist Group Member

Militant Black

Extremist Group Func-

tionaries

Violence Prone Faction,

Domestic Protest Group

Domestic Protest Group

1970

1971

2

2

1

1972

1973

1974

January 1,

1975-

June 30, 1975

1

1

1

1

1

1

1

1

1

12

5

3

1

1

1

2

1

- 2-

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1970

Coverage of Meeting of

Militant Group

Militant Pro-Israeli

Group Member

Foreign Intelligence

Agent's Business Office

Fund-Raising Front for

Arab Terrorist Groups

Pro-Chicom Propaganda

Jutlet

1971

1972 1973 1974

1

1

Jame 50, 191375 -

1

1

1

1

= 3-

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3.

MICROPHONE SURVEILLANCES ON

DOMESTIC TARGETS

JANUARY 1, 1970 THROUGH JUNE 30, 1975

January 1, 1975

June 302

1915

:

-.

Foreign Intelligence

Agents

Foreign Intelligence

Agents Suspects

Pro-Cuba American Group

which Traveled to Cuba

Black Extremist

Organization

Black Extremist Group

Functionary

Weather Underground

Support Apparatus

Propaganda Outlet for

Middle East Based

Organization

Foreign Intelligence

Agent's Business Office

1970 1971 1972 1973

1974

1

1.

1

1

1

1

1

1

1

2.

1

1

1

nation cirdle your Committee.

nel without the express approval of the FBI.

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IT COLLEGETO MIRTI FICROADE SURVORLLARCES

SAUARE I, 1970, ILOT JUNE 30, 1973

1970 1571 1972 1973

1

Jonasy 1, 1975 -

1974

June 30, 1975

2

1

IorciEn Liptonatic

Lstablishments

Toroiga Corneralol

Locablishronis

Foreign Elplosatte

officials

Foreign Intelligence

Agents

Suopeciod Torelyn

Incolligence (gents

Foreign Diplonadie

offloiel's Contact

Iro-Cubon Aroricen

Croap which iraveled to

Cuba

Black astromist

irganization

Black Lxcremist Group

Functionary

Iro-'alestine Groug

Weather Underground

Support appazatus

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"mited to airin broccedings by

your Commie: e and the content may not bi disclused io unauthorized person-

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1970 1877 1972 1973 1974

January 1, 1975 -

Jusc 30, 1975

Propaganda cutle for

Iiiddle Past Based

Degonization

Fund Laising Front for

inab terzorise lotivist

Groups

Toreign Intelligence

(gent's Lusiness office

1

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7

BALAGES ON LIEUDELS (SUNWATEROUS DITTIES)

JAJIX 1, 1070, EnD dUG 30, 1075

Iczuary I, 1975 -

1070

2371 1072 1073 1574 Jung 30, 1075

Porciga Intelligence

ACED IOCTOLISE IOLINISE

1

2

I'hs document is prepared in response to your request and is not for dissemi-

nel without the express approval of the aBle

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5-140 (Rev. 1-21-74) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

WASHINGTON, D. C. 20535

Addressee:

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE yO

ULTRY

→ Memo

. S

→ Report dated _11/3/75

Caption of Document:

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE.

10/15/75, Items 1,2,3 and 4

FBI

235

orisinating Of care age

Delivered by:

Corl

p-Dato: 1'/26/5

Received by:

Title:

yosey ster

Return this receipt to the Intelligence Division, FBI

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E:

SEE INSTRUCTIONS ON REVERSE

BEFORE COMPLETING.

TO:' "Intelligence Community Staff

ATTN: Central Index

CLASSIFY AS APPROPRIATE

FROM:

FOX

SUBJECT: Abstract of Information Provided to Select Committees

PROVIDED (check

for

review

appropriate

If a document was made available

but not transmitted, so

X DOCUMENT

BRIEFING INTERVIEW.

TESTIMONY

OTHER

3. TO WHOM PROVIDED (check appropriate term;

add specific names if appropriate)

2. DATE PROVIDED

17/5/95

SSC

SE

HSC

4.

IDENTIFICATION (provide descriptive data for documents; give name or identification number of briefer,

interviewee, testifier and subject)

Ilamorandun

5. Is spore to life dato or ino, hide a super fogal roquest, ochor-

HSC lotter 10/15/75

6. CLASSIFICATION OF

U

7. KEy under font for emphasiegiato key words from the list providad separatoly; if key words not listed aro

Surveillanco, electronie

8. SUMMARY (see reverse side before completing this item)

Sotting forth n list of tolophono cue nicrophone survetllances,

targete of Breat ins and tersets of trespass fox yoors 1/1/70

through 6/30/75.

62-116464

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(4)

ORIGINAL VIA LIPISON TO CENTRAL, COMMUNITY INDEX

IN CONNECTION WITH HOUSTUDY

TREAT AS YELLOW

CLASSIFY AS

APPROPRIATE

379 | 16-751

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INSTRUCTIONS

• Type or print clearly in ink.. :

i".i.:!

• Indicate classification of the abstract top and bottom.

• Date the abstract and put on any internal control numbers required.

• "FROM" entry should clearly identify the organization providing the

information.

• If additions (as when a copy of document sent to SSC is later sent to

HSC) or changes to a previously submitted form are necessary, submit a

copy of the original abstract, with the change indicated.

SPECIFIC ITEM NO. 8. SUMMARY - enter brief narrative statement describing

substance of information and showing relationship to Intelligence Community

matters if appropriate.

Any feedback or evidence of investigatory interests

should be noted. Commitments made to supply additional information should be

noted. Additionally, certain administrative information may be entered here,

e.g., restrictions on review of a document, if document was paraphrased, whether

interviewee is current or former employee, etc. If actual document or transcript

is provided, that fact should be noted and no summary is required. Additional

pages may be attached if necessary.

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2 = Mr

A. Mintz

(1 - ME. J. B. Hotis)

k. Wannall

1. « MT. J.

W. balsez

the attorney General

2975

Pirectors thr

1

W.

0. Cregar

I. J. McNiff

U. S. HOUSE SELICT COMITTICE

ON ETEELLICRICE ACZIVINIEG (BSC)

Peguet

inclosed for your approval and forwarding to the

Isc is the originad of & denorendun, wich atenched List.

which is in response to quastions I,

2o 3 and & as contained

in the isc request dated netober 15,

1975.

• copy of this nenorandue, fion atreched L4s6es

enclosed

IOE YOU CECOTOS.

Unclosures (10)

62-216466

I • The Deputy Attorney General

Richeek to Shaneery WE.

Special Counsel for

AID:njg/ lhb

(10)

Intelligence Coordination

delinesed to alept

1/7175

Melvised tosse

11/26/75-

H5C - 213

10li5

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62-116454

2 - M

J. A. Mintz

Mr. J. B. Hotis)

1 • MX.

W..R. Wannall

• Mr. J. W. Dalseg

I- Mr. H. 0. Cregar

1 • MI. T. J. Mchiff

November 5, 1975

W. S. ROUSE SELICT COMMITIRE

TO STULE GOVERNMERIAL, OPETATIOUS

WITH RESPECT TO INTELLICENCE ACTIVIIIES (ASC)

2E:

ISC REQUEST DATED OCIOSER 15, 1975g

CONCERUTNG WARRANTLESS ELECIRONIC

SURVEILLANCES AND SURREPIITIOUS EMIRIES

The RSC, In # letter dated October 15, 1975, to

nichool E, Shaheen, jos Special Counsel for Intelligence

Coordination, U.S, departrent of Justice, Washington, I. C..

requested, among other things, the following:

A Lise of all wastantless viretaps against.

domestle targets conducted betueen 1970 and 1975.

2. A list of ell other varrantless electronic

surveillances conducted egainst domestic targets betreen 1970

and 1975.

3. A list of ol1 break-ins conducted by the FBI

between 1970 and 1975.

A list of all other traspasses conducted by the

FBI between

: 1970 and 1975.

Pursuant to instructions zeceived from It. Stoven

Blackbuxst, Assistant Special, Counsel for Intelligence

Coordiantion, Lepactrent of Justice, these questions are

being answered in the form of lists which identify targets

in generic terms. the lista, which are belleved responsive

to these queries, are attached hereto.

lelephone Surveillances on loneatic Taryets

January 1, 1970, through June 30, 1975.

AJD: mjg/ lhb

ORIGINAL AND ONE COPY TO AG

(9)

SEE NOTE PAGE 2

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U. S. HOUSE SELECT COMMITICE OU INIELLIGEICE ACTIVITIES (HSC)

RE: BSC REQUEST DATED OCTOBER 15, 1975, CONCENNIG SARRALLESS

CLECINOMIG SURVEILIANCES AND SURACPITTIOUS EATRIES

Microphone Surveillances on Domestic largers

January 1, 1970, Ehrough june 30, 1975.

3. Tergets of Breakolns (Sucreptitious Entries)

is connection with Kicrophoue Surveillances, January I, 1570,

through June 30, 1975.

* Targecs of Trespass (Surreptitious Intzies)

not zelated to Microphone Surveillances, Jarazy I, 1970,

through June 30, 1975.

Factorses (4)

2" The Attorney General

NOTE:

By letter 10/15/75, HSC requested the above which

was pursuant to a briefing given Congressman McClory and

members of HSC by INID on 10/10/75. Subsequent to this request,

Mr. Blackhurst advised that it had been decided that only

generic lists would be submitted to the Committee in response

to these queries and, based on his instructions, these four

questions are being responded to by the submission of the

attached generic lists. Per Mr. Blackhurst, in accordance

with White House instructions, EPCE and Flooding Technique

surveillances are not included

In lists three and four.

= 2=

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TELEPHONE SUAVCILLAICCS ON

DOESSIC TARGSIS

JANUARY LE 1970. THROUGH JURE 30, 1975

January 1!

1973 *

1972

39241922197319%

1213

3

Forcign Intelligance

Agenze

Forstyr Intalligance

Contacts

Communist Farty

Functionaries

Hendruscters, Boste

Nerolutionary Croup

Coverage of Classifiod

information

Black Trezenict Lander

Militant Black Ersanist

Organ.

Foreign Diplomatle

official's Contact

ker lect Oriented

Arab Torrorist

Affiliate

Pro-Palesbias Group

Lander of Revolutionary

Group

Arab Terroria: Activist

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January le

1975

2870 1971 1272 1373 3974 52n0 12. 1075

Rachal Entreniet Group

Black Extremist Grouy

AfELliate

Propegenda Caules fos

Middle Cast Based

Orgaulsation

Dew Loft Oriented

Ganpas Group Factios

New Loft Orientsd

Somas Group contact

Fablication of Clandas*

Eins Underaround droug

Dedicated to Strategie

Saharage

For Left Accivict

Investigacion of

Chandestino Underground

Crown bedlared to

Strategie Saborage

Nilitent Blacks

Excronist Group Member

Militast Sacie

Extrenist Group

• Fune

tionaries

Violence Frone Factions

Domestic Protest Group

Domestic Protest Group

12

1

1.

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12701924 1912 1073 2074

Jamary

2975

Ju38 30.

2372

Coverare of Nesting of

Milatons Group

Islicant Iro-Israzi

Group Kember

Foresen lacelligence

Fundeising Front Eox

Assò Terrorist Groups

Peo-Calcon Fropagende

Buttet

3

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* 4.

MICRORSE SURVEELLINCES ON

JARUARY LE 1970 THROUGU JUNE 30, 1975

1970

15pk it 1375

1974

376 JaY. 101223 -

Fordien Istalligance

Agrats

Eareign Intalligenco

Agents Sueposte

ProsCube Americen Group

who Traveled to Caba

Black Extremist

Organization

Slack Extraolst Groug

Euretionary

Feathes Undareround

Suppore Apparatins

Ecopaganda Outlet

Middle Last Based

Organizacion

Foreign IncaLLigencE

Agent's

Business

dESiee

at a transe adava so, id don

min aide yous Committer.

al mout the enress aoronal of the il.

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PERGEIS OF EREAK-TUS (SUNILPTICIOUS BITEIES)

IN CULLIECTION KIIN MICROPHOHE SURVEIULAIOES

J/NUARY IN 1970, THRU JUNE 30, 1975

Jazuary 1, 1975 €

1970. 1971 19721973 1974

June 30, 1975

Foreign Diplonatic

Establishments

Foreign Commercial

Establishments

Foreign lIplomatic

Officials

Foreian Intelligence

Agents

Suspected Foreign

Intelligence Agents

Foreign Diplomatic

Official's Contact

Pro-Cuban Americon

Group who Iraveled to

Cuba

Black Extremiot

Organization

Black Extrenist Group

Functlonary

Fro-Palestine Group

Weather Underground

Support Apparatus

Arab Tercorist sctivist

3

1

2

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1

ims

3

2

I's document is prepared in response to your request and is not for dissemi

Its use is limited to official proceedings by

NW 68262 Docld:32989695 Page 36.

nel without the express approval of the EBlai

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2970

1971 1972 1973

1974

-June 30: 1975

Propaganda Outlet for

Middle Last Based

Orgonization

Fund Raising, Front Fos

Arab Terrorist Activist

Gzoups

Foreign Intelligence

Agent's

Busiaess

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• KANGCTS Or 20 SPASS (SURIOPITRINUS ENTKIES)

NUT RELAION TO MICEOLIONE SUAVSILLAICES

JANUARY I, 2970, DE JUIS 30, 1975

978 137

Foreign Intelligence

Agents

Arab Terroriat Activist

1972 1973.

1974

2

January 1y 1975

June 30, 1573

This document is mepmed in response to you request and is not for dissemi-

nation artsito

non' Committee.

Ita use in limited in minal procccaings by

yoar Comme und the content may not be disclosed to minichorizca person

nel without the caness approval of the EEl

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2 - Mr. J. A. Mintz

(1 - Mr. J. B. Hotis)

1 - Mr. W. R. Wannall

1 - Mr. W. O. Cregar

Novenber I0, 1975

The AttorE Teneral

12

Director

FBÍ

62-116444-217

1 - Mr. W. A. Branigan

- Mr. R. G. Kinsey

UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRUSENTATIVES

SELECT COLMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE (HISC)

Reference is made to a letter fron the HSC dated

October 22, 1975, requesting all files, records and documents

Iron the rst which concern ir. sam Jaiie.

Enclosed for your approval and forwarding to the

committee is the original of a memorandum responding to the

request. Also enclosed are two volumes of material which

constitute the FBI file: on Mr. Jaffe.

ana are Setto or atonal wan

A copy of the nemorandum is being furnished for

your records.

Enclosures - 1

62-116464

I - The Deputy Attorney General

Attention:

MichaeL t. shaheen, ex.

Special Counsel for

Intelligence Coordination

ALL INFOREEZION CONTAINET

HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED

DATE _9-3-81

BY 10320 Pane/Res

Assoc, Dir. _

1 - 105-28333 (Jaffe)

Dep. AD Adm. -

Asst. Dir.:

Admin.

(1])

Comp. Syst..

Ext. Affairs

Files & Com. -

POP ARE LAURAL AACHE

Wistor

4165

Ident.

Inspection

Intell.

Laboratory

-

Plon. & Eval. -

Spec. Inv. -

Training

Legal Coun.

Telephone Rm.

Director:

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CLOSUK

PULKE ROOM"

ROOM

89695 Page 39

TELETYPE UNIT

GPO: 1975

1212-25

Profitis

Deliversa?

569-920

ONRLCORDED COPY

FILED IN

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62-110404

2 • Hir.

J. A. Mintz

(I - Mr. J. B. Hotis)

1 - Mr. W. R. Wannall

1 - Mr.

W. 0. Cregar

1 - Mr. W. A. Branigan

1 - Mr. R. G. Kinsey

lovebber 10, 1975

UNITED STATES NOICE OF TOFROCININIIVES

SELECT COMMITTRE CIT INTALLICONCE

(ESC)U

letorence is made to lettor dated Cctober 22, 1075,

to Special Counsel for Intolligenco Coordination, iron

A. Scarto Field, Giast Dircetor for the Connicteo, requesting

all files, records and docents concerning he. San 3a1i0,

0510 Bradloy Boxlevard, Dothesda, Maryland. U

enclosed are two folumes of micrial constituting

copios of all intoraation contained in tho IDI file concorning

Mr. Jaffe, with the esception of information furnished to the

IBI by tho Contral Intelligenco Agency (CIA) and the Department

oê State Office of Security and by foreign intelligence agencies.

Intornation fron the CIA and the Dopartment of state Gifice o3

security has not been included under the third agency rule

and a request for this informtion should bo direcied to them

scparately.U

References to It. Jaile contained in other FBI Liles

of which he is not the subject are not included in the above

matorial, in accordanco with an agreement reached on Octobor 30,

19r9, betricon a represchtative oi the is and lisa inity chorators

o the Committee, that for the present the response to

Committee's request nay to Ilnitod to that information in tho

filo on Nr. Jaste.U

InCLOSUreS • 2

Assoc. Dir. -

Dep. AD Adm. -

Dep. AD inv. -

Asst. Dir.:

I - the Attorney General

Admin. u

Comp. Syst. -1 - 105-28333 (Jaffe)

Ext. Affairs

Files & Com. -

Gon. In. RGK: amt

Ident.

(10)

Inspection -

Intell. .

Laboratory

Plan. & Eval. -

Spoc. Inv. -

Training .

Legal Coun..

Telephone Rm. -

Director Sec'y -

MAIL ROOM L

TELETYPE UNIT

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STORET MATERIAL ATTACHED

CLASS. & EXI. BY /0320 /Wil/RiuS 93-81

WRW WREASOIT - FCI 11, 1-2. 4.3m

DATE OF PUVIDY

-H-10-95

SEE NOTE PAGE 2

millades

Tele: 4141-2120-60-00-020

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SEE COMES TO SE TEEPEN TIES

NOTE:

SECRET

Sanuel Adason Jaffe was a synbol number informant

of the New York Office from 1958 to 1961 and was later in

contact with the Washington Field Office. During these

periods of contact, Jaîfe furnished information on his numerous

contacts with Soviet and People's Republic of China officials,

which were occasioned by his employment with ABC and CBS and

with other news media. u

Following his identification by Soviet defector

["Sammy" as having been recruited by the KGB while assigned

to Hoscow,

Jaite vas extensively intervioved and advised that

he believed he had been the subject of a recruitment approach

but denied being a

• KGB agent. Our relations thereafter were

conducted with caution in view of L'Samny'sWallogations and

he is not currently being contacted.

Jaffe filed a request under the Freedom of Information

Act in March, 1975, and subsequently appealed our denial oi

access to information concerning him as contained in our files.

Jaife has alleged that the FBI, or his association with the fBI,

has prevented him from obtaining work in the news media field.

This allegation is not supported by any material contained in

his file.u

In approximately June, 1975, Jaite net with a triend

of his who is a member ot the Senate select Committee on

Intelligence operations.

While he vas discussing his belief

that the TBI has been vindictive toward him because he vas

"fingered" by a Soviet defector, Senator Frank Church, Chairman

of the Senate Committce, ovorheard Jaffe's allegations and ordered

that his Staff interview Jaffe for full details of his allegation.e

The matorial being furnished the House Conmittee

represents all information contained in Jaffe's main file, with

certain escoptions which are explained in the memorandum to the

Committce.

There are also some 200 to 250 references which are

not being furnished, following an agreement between supervisor

Thonas J. IcNiff and Hiss Inily Sheketoff of the HSC wherein it

was agreed that these need not be made available at present.

Classifted by 101, XDS ZantE, Tidesiita U

SECRET

- 2=

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FBL

OFFICE OF THE DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL

WASHINGTON, D.C. 20530

OCT 2 4 1975

SUBJECT:

TO: John A. Mintz., Assistant Director

Legal Counsel

. Division

Federal Bureau of Investigation

Special Counsel for

Coordination

Intelligence

House Select Committee Letter dated October 22

Attached is a letter from the House Select .Com-•

mittee dated October 22, 1975, requesting all files,

records and documents concerning Mr. Sam Jaffe.

prepare an appropriate response to this letter.Tw.Com-

mittee is interested in getting this material

as soon

as possible.

"/ 6/75

1629010

REC 12 62-116464-212

DEC 121975

CC:

Paul Daly

recil 1128/15-

1. /

10-28-75°

2 ENCLOSURE,

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OCT 2 4 1975

lO: cohn A. Mintz

Legal

Counsel

l' 191s5tant Director

Federal Bureau of Investigation

FROM: MIchael E. Shaheen, Jr.

Special Counsel for Intelligence

Coordination

SUBJECT:

House Select Committee Letter dated October 22

Attached is a letter from the House select com-

mittee dated October 22, 1975, requesting all files,

records and documents concerning Nir. Sam Jaffe.

prepare an appropriate response to this letter. Com

mittee 1s interested in getting this material as soon

as possible.

CC:

Paul Daly

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MORGAN F. MUIPtY, ILL

LES AMIN, ViS.

DALE MILFOND, TEX.

PHILIP H. HAYES, IND.

WILLIAM LEHMAN, TLA.

OTIS G. PIKE, N. Y., CHAIRMAN

ROBERT ME CLOF IS

DAVID.C. TREEN

SOLO.

ROBERT W, KASTEN, JR., WIS.

• Select Committee on Intelligence

M.S. House ot Representatities

Hashington, B.C. 20515

TELEPHONE: (202) 225-9751

October 22, 1975

Mr. Michael Shaheen, Jr.

Special Counsel for Intelligence

Coordination

Department of Justice

Washington, D.C.

Dear Mr. Shaheen:

Please supply this Committee with all of the files,

records and documents concerning Mr. Sam Jaffe of

6510 Bradley Boulevard, Bethesda, Maryland.

We are enclosing herewith a notarized release state-

ment of Mr. Jaffe for your records.

Sincerely,

A. Fall Fis

A. Searle Field

Staff Director

ASF/ES/ ca

RECEIVED

OCT 24 175

1121

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ENCLOSURE,

62-116444-212

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Washington

Oct.

I, Sam Jaffe, hereby consent to the furnishing by the

Federal Bureau of Investigation to the House Select

Committee on Intelligence, all records, files and

documents dealing with me which are in their custody.

Jaffe

"'22. October 75

Prady CurtisT

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## Page 46

5-140 (Rev. 1-21-74) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

WASHINGTON, D. C. 20535

Addressee:

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

1 Memo

• Report dated _ 11/10/75

Captior, Of Document:

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES SELECT

COMMITTEE

HSC letter 10/22/75

Delivered by:

Received bu CAn le

Richard pay lo

Спр-

_ Date:

1//12/75

Title: -

Return this receipt to the Intelligence Division, FBI

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## Page 47

MOTE: BEFORE COLON U REVERSE

CLASSIFY AS APPROPRIATE

FROM:

TO:

Intelligence Community Staff

ATTN: Central Index

FBI

SUBJECT: Abstract of Information Provided to Select Committees

• HOW PROVIDED (check

propriate tern

If a document was made available

eview but

•ansmitted, so note.

DOCUMENT

BRIEFING

INTERVIEW

I TESTIMONY |

OTHER

3. TO WHOM PROVIDED (check appropriate term;

add specific names if appropriate)

2. DATE PROVIDED

11/10/75

sSC

SE , HSC

4. IDENTIFICATION (provide descriptive data for documents; give name or identification number of briefer,

interviewee, testifier and

Memorandun and enclosuzes

S. IN RESPONSE TO (List date

and item number

request

of (name),

initiative,

if ve, esponse te formal request, other-

HSC Letter 10/22/75

i. CLASSIFICATION O

INFORMATION (ente

C, S,

C, dewosd TS or

use under enterote phasopriate key words from the list provided separately: if key words not listed aro

Infornation handling

Intelligence collection

8. SUMMARY (see reverse side before completing this item)

Materiols relating to Sau Jaffe.

52-116464

FMK: fmk

(4)

ORIGINAL. VIA LIAISON TO CENTRAI, COMMUNITY INDEX

IN CONNECTION WITH HOUSTUDY

TREAT AS YELLOW

CLASSIFY AS APPROPRIATE

379| (6-75)

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## Page 48

INSTRUCTIONS

• Type or print clearly in ink..

• Indicate classification of the abstract top and bottom.

• Date the abstract and put on any internal control numbers required.

• "FROM" entry should clearly identify the organization providing the

information.

• If additions (as when a copy of document sent to SSC is later sent to

HSC) or changes to a previously submitted form are necessary, submit a

copy of the original abstract, with the change indicated.

SPECIFIC ITEM NO. 8. SUMMARY - enter brief narrative statement describing

substance of information and

showing relationship to Intelligence Community

matters if appropriate.

Any feedback or evidence of investigatory interests

should be noted. Commitments made to supply additional information should be

Additionally, certain administrative information may be entered here,

e.g., restrictions on review of a document, if document was paraphrased, whether

interviewee is current or former employee, etc. If actual document or transcript

is provided, that fact should be noted and no summary is required. Additional

pages may be attached if necessary.

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FBI

OFFICE OF THE DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL

WASHINGTON, D.C. 20530

OCT 1 6 1975

TO:

Mika FROM:

in EnriSC

5-6 salute chen diG "rens wiel lim of liver

Pritse

7 su 4cD mano to rite Coster 10130121- PVD/ laP

SUBJECT:

John As Mintz, Assistant Dipector

Legal Counsel Division

Federal Bunau of Investicall

Michael E. Shaheen, Jr.

Special Counsel for Intelligence

Coordination

House Select Committee Request dated October 15

Attached is a letter from the House Select Committee

dated October 15, which requests materials to supplement the

briefing given to Congressman McClory and HSC staff members on

October 10. Please be advised that Congressman McClory has

reviewed this letter personally and requests that a complete

response be prepared as promptly as possible. Therefore,

please prepare a prompt response to requests numbered 1-4.

Also prepare a response to requests numbered 5-o, in conjunc-

tion with a response to the HSC letter dated September 30,

concerning ADEX and the Security Index.

The HSC staff has been told that the "Kissinger 17"

materials are subject to a protective order and that a letter

from the Chairman to the Attorney General should be sent

requesting the Department to modify that order to allow HSC

ccess to the materials. After the order has been modified

he Bureau will be requested to comply with the "Kissinger' 17

request.

Cc: Paul Daly

10/16/17

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¡aj:" OTIS O. PIKE, N. Y.. CHAIRMAN

ROBERT N. GIAIMO, CONN.

ROBERT MCCLORY, ILL

JAMES V. STANTON, ONIO

DAVID C. TREEN, LA.

RONALD V. DELLUMS, CALIF.

JAMES P. JOMNSON, COLO.

MORGAN F. MURPHY, ILL.

ROBERT W. KASTEN, JR., WIS.

LES ASPIN, WIS.

DALE MILFORD, TEX.,

PHILIP H. HAYES, IND.

WILLIAM LEHMAN, FLA.

A. SEARLE FIELD, STAFF DIRECTOR

LATON B. DONNER, COUNSEL

TELEPHONE: (202) 225-9751

Select Committee on Intelligence

U.S. House of Representatives

Washington, D.C. 20515

October 15, 1975

Mr. Michael E. Shaheen, Jr.

Special Counsel for Intelligence Coordination

U. S. Department of Justice

Washington, D. C.

20530

Dear MI. Shaheen:

Pursuant to the briefing given Congressman McClory and

members of our staff by representatives of the Intelligence

Division of the FBI, on October 10, 1975, we are requesting

the following materials:

1. A list of all warrantless wiretaps against domestic

targets

conducted between 1970 and 1975.

2.

A list of all other warrantless electronic surveil-

lances conducted against domestic targets between 1970 and 1975.

A list of all break-ins conducted by the FBI between

1970 and 1975.

4. A list of all other trespasses conducted by the FBI /

between 1970 and 1975.

5. A listing of all persons who have been on the ADEX

list since its inception and a copy of the current ADEX list.

6. A list of all persons on the Security Index when it

was discontinued.

7. All files, materials and records regarding the

"17 Kissinger Wiretaps."

Youx prompt attention to this request will be appreciated.

112112)

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OCT 15 7375

Aaron B. Donner

Counsel to the Committee

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OCT 1 6 1975

TO: John A, Mintz, Assistant Director

Légal Counsel Division

Federal Bureau of Investigation

FROM: Michael E, Shaheen, J.

Special Counsel for Intelligence

Coordination

SUBUECT: House Select Cornittee Request dated October 15

Attached is a letter from the House Select Conmittee

dated October 15, which requests matemals to supplement the

briefing given to Congressman MeClory and HSC staff members or

October 10. Please be advised that Congressman McGlory has

reviewed this letter personally and requests that a complete

response be prepared as promptly as possible, Therefore,

please prepare a prompt response to requests numbered I-4.

Also prepare a response to requests numbered 5-5, in conjunc

tion with a response to the HSC letter dated September 30,

conceming ADEX and the Security Index.

The HSC staff has been told that the "Kissinger 17"

materials are subject to a protective order and that a letter

from the Chairman to the Attorney General should be sent

requesting the Department to modify that order to allow HSC

ccess to the materials. After the order has been modified

the Bureau will be requested to comply with the "Kissinger 17'

request.

cc: Paul Daly

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OFFICE OF THE DEPUTY ITTORNEY GENERAL

WASHINGTON, J.C. 20530

OCT 1 6 1975

TO:

John A, Miniz, Assistant Disperin.

Legal Counsel Divivion

federal Bureau of Investigation

Mila FROM:

Michael E. Shaheer, Jr.

Special Counsel for Intelligence

coordination

SUBJECT:

House Select Committee Request dated October 15

Attached is a letter from the House Select Comittee

dated October 15, which requests materials to supplenent the

briefing given to Congressman McCiory and HSC staff members en

October 10.

Please be acivised that Congressman McClury has

reviewed this letter personally and requests that a complete

response be prepared as promptly as possible. Therefore,

please prepare a prompt response to requests numbered 1-4.

Also prepare a response to requests numbered 5-6, in conjunc-

tion with a response to the HSC letter dated September 36,

conceming ADEX and the Security Index.

The HSC staff has been told that the "Kissinger 17"

materials are subject to a protective order and that a letter

from the Chairman to the Attorney General should de sent

requesting the Department to modify that order to allow hSC

access to the materials. After the order has been modified,

the Bureau will be requested to comply with the "Kissinger 17'

request.

101.

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OT15 Q. PIKE, N. Y., CHAIRMAN

RODERT M. GIAINO, CONN.

KOBEHT MC CLORY, ILL

JAMES V. STANTON, O111O

RONALD L. DELLUMS, CALIP.

MORGAN F. MURPHY, ILL.

LES ASPIN, WIS.

DALE MILFORD, TEX.

PHILIP H. HAYE, IND.

WILLIAM LEHMAN, FLA.

AARON L DONE, COUNSEL

• TELEPHONE: (202) 225-9751

Select Committee on Intelligence

Q.S. Douse of Representatites

delashington, .C. 20515

October 15, 1975

Mr. Michael E. Shaheen, Jr.

Special Counsel for Intelligence Coordination

J. S. Department of Justice

Washington, D. C. 20530

Dear Mr. Shaheen:

Pursuant to the briefing given Congressman McClory and

members of our staff by sepresentatives of the Intelligence

Division of the FBI, on October 10, 1975, we are requesting

the following materials:

1. A list of all warrantless wiretaps against domestic

targets conducted between 1970 and 1975.

2. A list of all other warrantless electronic surveil-

lances conducted against domestic targets between 1970 and 1975.

3. A list of all preak-ins conducted by the FBI detween

1970 and 1975.

4. A list of all other trespasses conducted by the FBI

between 1970 and 1975.

5. A listing of all persons who have been on the ADEX

list since its inception and a copy of the current ADeX list.

6. A list of all persons on the Security Index when it

was discontinued.

7. All files, materials and records regaraing the

"17 Kissinger Wiretaps."

Your prompt attention to this request will be appreciated.

1112112

RECEIVED

Criti

Aaron B. Donner

Counsel to the Committee

ABD

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OCT : $ 1975

TO: John A. Mintz, Assistant Director

Legal Counsel Division

Federal Bureau of Investigation

FROM: Ilichael E. Shaheen, Jr.

Special. Counsel for Intelligence

Coordination

SUBJECI: flouse Select Connittee Request dated October 15

Attached is a letter from the House Salect Comittee

dated October 15, which requests materials to supplemerit the

briefing given to Congressman McClory and HSC staff meriers on

October 10. Please be advised that Congressman McClory nas

revieved this letter personally and requests that a complete

response be prepared as promptly as possible. Therefore,

please prepare a prompt respanse to requests numere I-.

Also prepare a response to requests numbered 5-6, in conjune-

tion with a response to the HSC lecter dated September 30,

concerning ADEX and the Security Index.

The HSC staff has been told that the "Kissinges 17"

materials are subject to a protective order and that a letter

from the Chairman to the Attorney General should be sent

requesting the Lepartment to modify that order to allow ESC

access to the materials. After the order has been modified,

the Bureau will be requested to comply with the "Kissinger 17"

request.

CC:

Paul Daly

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2 - Mc. J. A. Hintz

(1 - J. B. NOE1S)

1 - lix. W. R. Wannall

The Attorney Genarol

Dircetor, FBI

1 - lic. H. O. Cregar

1. - Air. R. Is. MOOre

UNITED STATES FOUSE SELECT

COLLITICE ON ILTITILIGENCE ACTIVITINE (USC)

Boccabor 5, 1975

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Roforenco is made to INC Ictics doted Cetober 23,

1oYs, Irons o and 10, which roquested accoas to any and 21l

I1103 DE IBI CONCOrMING thO UNZOR ON ANDRICAN HEDYCH

Congrogations, the Community Bool Store and tic Redhouse

Eook Storo, all of lashington, D. C., and Donald Sandora

Lico.

Inclosed for your approval and fortarding to tho

Isc is the original of a sonorandun zcoponding to the above

your Iccords.

Enclosures (2)

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The Attornoy General

NOTE:

The bulk of the information in Bureau files

relating to Donald Sanders Luce consists of classified

documents which were furnished by CIA and by AID, ISC

is being roferred to CIA and AID for this information,

Bureau files contain additional information relating to

the Union of American Hebrew Congregations which has

been reviewed and determined to bo not pertinent to the

ISC request since the information consists of reterences

to the organization in rolation to other investigations

conducted and does not of itself furnish any information

pertinent to the Union of American Hebrew Congregations.

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2 - Mr. J. A. Mintz

(1 - j. B. Rotis)

1 - Mr. W. R. Wannall

1 - Mr. W. 0. Cregar

1 - MY. Re: Lo Hoore

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UNITED STATES LOUSE SELECT COLITIRE

021 INTELLIGIICE ACTIVITIES (ISC)

Assoc. Dir.

Dep. AD Adm. -

Dep. AD Inv. _

Asst. Dir.:

Admin.

Comp. Syst.-

Ext. Affairs -

Files & Com. -

Gen. Inv. -

Ident..

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Intell..

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Roterence is mado to ISe lotter dated October 29,

1945.

Itons 6 and 10. Iton 6 requested access to any and

all files at FDl concorning tho Union of American llebrcw

Congrogations, the Connunity Book Store ant the Reükousc

Bool Store, all of lashington, D. C.

Records maintained at FBI Headquarters (FBIIA)

indicate that the Rodhouso look Store was never the subject

01 a lurcau investigation.

Bureau indices do, however,

contain soveral Icrorencos to the above organization as the

name Redhouse Dool Store had come to this Bureau's

attention in conncction with othor investigations.

ESC

Staff Momber Ellen Miller, after being telephonically

inforned of tho above on December 1, 1075, by Special Agent

Thonas J. Mclife; advised that the ISC request for access

to material concerning the Redhouse Dool Store is being

withdrawn.

Pertinent matorial in FBIld files rclating to

the Union of Aucrican llcbrew Congrogations and the

Community Bool Storo has been prepared and is available

for reviow by ISC Staff Members.

Iten 10 al tho referenced ISe lotter regucated

access to any and all files at Fal concerning Donald Sandors

Luce, born October 20, 1934, Social Security Number

003-21-8750. Matorial roporting Information obtainca tron

purcau sources is available for roviow by ISC Staff Mombors Wit

Bureau

kilo concerning luce contains a number oi

communications concerning that individual, which wore

tige

dircetod to the FEl by the Central Intolligonce Agency (CLA)

and tho Agcacy for Intornational Devolopment (AID) and the

Conmittee is respectfully recrred to those Agencies for

rovicw of such natcrinl, 12 it is deemed necessary,

quis

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WASHINGTON, D. C. 20535

Addressee:

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

COLTR

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• Memo • Report dated -

12/5/75

'aption of Deuse Select Committee on Intelligence.

Activities (HSC).

(HSC letter *

10/28/73, Items 6 & 10)

ichard ia

1205

Co Dar: 12/1/25

Delivered by:

Received by:

Title:

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NOTE: SEE INSTRUCTIONS ON REVERSE

BEFORE COMPLETING.

CLASSIFY AS APPROPRIATE

FROM:

TO:

Intelligence Community Staff

ATTN: Central Index

FBI

SUBJECT: Abstract of Information Provided to Select Committees

1. HOW

PROVIDED (check appropriate

If a document was made available

for review

but not transmitted,

so note.)

37 DOCUMENT

BRIEFING

INTERVIEW

TESTIMONY

JOTHER

FOR REVIENT

3. TO WHOM PROVIDED (check appropriate term;

add specific names if appropriate)

2. DATE PROVIDED

12/5/75

SSC

X HSC

4. IDENTIFICATION

(provide descriptive data for documents; give name or identification number of briefer,

interviewee, testifier and subject)

Memorandum

6. CHEORMATION (O FOr

C, dew S, TS or

HSC letter 10/28/75, items 6 and 10

7. Key "onds fine for emphasiariate key words from the list provided separately; if key words not listed are

Infornation handling

Intelligence collection

8. SUMMARY (see reverse side before completing this item)

Available for revier by appropriate HSC Staff Members at FBIHQ

materials relating to Union of (merican Hebrew Congreations,

The Cornunity Book Store and Donald Sanders luce.

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IN CONNECTION WITH HOUSTUDY

TREAT AS YELLOW

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INSTRUCTIONS

• Type or print clearly in ink.

• Indicate classification of the abstract top and bottom.

• Date the abstract and put on any internal control numbers required.

• "FROM" entry should clearly identify the organization providing the

information.

• If additions (as when a copy of document sent to SSC is later sent to

HSC) or changes to a previously submitted form are necessary, submit a

copy of the original abstract, with the change indicated.

SPECIFIC ITEM NO. 8. SUMMARY - enter brief narrative statement describing

substance of information and showing relationship to Intelligence Community

matters if appropriate. Any feedback or evidence of investigatory interests

should be noted. Commitments made to supply additional information should be

Additionally, certain administrative information may be entered here,

e.g., restrictions on review of a document, if document was paraphrased, whether

interviewee is current or former employee, etc. Ii actual document or transcript

is provided, that fact should be noted and no summary is required. Additional

pages may be attached if necessary.

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2

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(1

- Mr. J. B. Hotis

1 - Mr. Wa. R. Wannall

1 - Mr. R. L. Shackelford

December 4, 1975

1 - MI.

w. 0. Cregar

1 - Mx. T. J. McNiff

The Attorney General

Director, FBI

U. S. HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

ON INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (HSC)

Reference is made to letters from HSC dated

October 20, and October 28, 1975, both of which, in part,

requested infornation in Bureau Illes concerning Vietnan

Veterans Against The War (VVAl), and this Bureau's memorandun

dated November 14, 1975, responding to that request.

Attached is a letterhead memorandum which contains,

as an enclosure, a memorandum prepared November 28, 1975,

by this Bureau in response to an unrelated matter, which

menorandum summarizes the justification for this Bureau'g

investigation of the VVAW from 1967 to the present. It is

believed information contained in this memorandum would be

helpful to Staff Members of the HSC in any evaluation being

made by that Comnittee concerning this Bureau's investigation

of the VAW.

A copy of the memorandum, with its enclosure, is

being furnished for your records.

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2 - MI.

A. Mintzi:

(1 - Mr: J. B. Hotis)

1 - Mr. W. R. Wannall

1 - Mr. R. L. Snackelford

1 - Mr. W. O. Gregar

1 - Mr. I. J. McNiff

December 4, 1975

U. S. IDUSE SELECT COMITTEE

OI7 INTEZLICENCE ACTIVIJIES (HSC)

RE: IFORMATION CONCERNING THE VIETNAM

VETERANS AGAINSI THE WAR (VVAIT)

Reference 1a made to HSC letters October 20, and

Detober 28, 1975, both of which, in part, requested Infor-

nation in Bureau files concerning VVAT and this Bureau's

menorandun dated lovember 14, 1975, responding to that

request.

Due to the voluminous naterials contained in

Bureau files concerning the VVAl, referenced Bureau

memorandull, in accordance with an agreement reached between

HSC Staff Members and Bureau representatives, furnished

the HSC only with reports and netoranda concerning the VAI

as prepared by this Bureau's Boston, Chicago, New fork and

lashington Field Offices.

In cornection with an unrelated matter, this

cureau, on hovenber 20, 1979, пав оссавдов ко реракс а

nemorandon sumarizing

the justification for this Bureau's

investigation of the VAl from 1967 to the pregent.

Assoc. Dir. .

Dep. AD Adm. -

Dep. AD Inv. _

Asst. Dir.:

Admin..

Comp. Syst. _

Ext. Affairs

Inclosure

Files & Com. -

A copy of this menorandum is being furnished you

for completion of your records and to be of assistance in

capsulizing the nature of this Bureau's interest in the VVAl.

woC

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U. S. HOUSE SELECT COLMITTER ON INTELLICENCE ACTIVITIES (HSC)

RE: INFORMATION CONCERNING THE VIETNAM VETERANS AGAINST THE

WAR (VVATT)

NOTE:

Attached memorandun concerning VAl was prepared

by Special Agent Horace Beckwith, IS-2 Section, in response

to Senate Select Gormittee (SSC) request 11/26/75 for such

infornation which could be used, if necessary, at public

SSC hearings 12/2/75. This menorandum was prepared vith the

idea in mind that it would in all possibility be released

to the news media. Since this memorandum was prepared for

the above purpose, it is felt that voluntarily furnishing

such information to the HSC could work to this Bureau's

advantage in helping that Committee to better understand

our jurisdiction in this matter.

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RE :

VIETNAM VETERANS AGAINST THE WAR/WINTER SOLDIER

ORGAN IZAT ION (VVAW/WSO)

In June, 1967, Gus Hall, General Secretary of

the Communist Party,

USA (CPUS1) commented on the forth-

coming 1968 national elections. Hall stated that the CPUSA

must develop guidelines for the political campaigns and must

assist in the development of any 1968 campaign which was

antiwar in character and not limited to either major

political party. On September 10, 1967, the CPUSA publication,

"The Worker,

announced that the organization VVAW had been

formed in June, 1967, as a nonmembership organization made

up of Vietnam

veterans who were opposed to the war. This

communist publication provided the purpose of VVAW as

opposition to the "unjustified" war in Vietnam.

that VVAW had joined

"the dissent of millions of Americans

against the war.

An initial limited inquiry was begun by the

Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) in September, 1967,

to determine, through inquiries with established sources

and public source material, if the CPUSA was directing or

controlling the newly formed VVAW. This limited inquiry

failed to establish

that the CPUSA, or any other subversive

organization,

exercised direction or control over VVAW. The

limited inquiry did indicate that VVAW leadership appeared

before the Socialist Workers Party (SWP) sponsored Militant

Labor Forum in New York City, but there was no indication of

any control by the SWP. With the absence of such direction

or control by any subversive organization,

the limited

inquiry of VVAN was closed in October, 1967. A similar

limited inquiry was conducted in 1968, resulting in an

updated affirmation that VVAW was not controlled or dominated

by any

subversive group.

This second limited inquiry was

closed

in May, 1968.

During the limited inquiries in

1967 and 1968,

the National Headquarters of VAW was

located in New York City. VVAW activities were primarily

devoted to participation

in and organization of

demonstrations oposing the

war in Vietnam. No full

investigation was conducted by the fBI of VAW until

August, 1971, when information from a variety of sources

dictated the

need to determine the extent of control

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over VVAW by subversive groups and/or violence-prone

elements in the antiwar movement:

Sources had provided

InformatIon that WAW was stockpiling weapons, VAW nad

been in contact with North Vietnam officials in Paris,.

France, VVAW was receiving funds from former CPUSA

members and VVAW was aiding and financing U.S. military

deserters. Additionally, information had been received

that some individual chapters throughout the country

had

been infiltrated by the youth groups of the CPUSA

the SIP.

A trend of increased militancy developed

within the VVAW and the possibilities of violence

escalated within the organization.

During December,

1971; VVAW members forcibly and illegally occupied or

surrounded public buildings and national monuments in

New York City, Philadelphia, Austin, Texas, and

Washington, D. C.

During 1972, the FBI estimated that VVAW had

approximately 1, 800

members and 102 chapters throughout

the country.

VVAW claimed 23,000 members and 283 chapters.

In 1972, some leaders and activists in the VVAW made

trips to Europe and Asia during which they participated

in conferences with representatives and/or officials of

the Soviet Bloc, North Vietnam, and the National

Liberation Front (NLF) of South Vietnam. VVAW leaders

informed the membership that VVAW had been asked to

cooperate on an international level with many organizations,

including

communist or Maoist groups, describing these

groups as

"our friends."

When reporting on trips to

Paris, Moscow and Hanoi, VVAY leaders indicated the

organization was dedicated to ending imperialist

aggression and establishing a firm relationship with

the NLT.

In June, 1972, a delegation of fifteen VVAW

members and leaders attended a war crimes conference near

The conference, which included representatives

of North Vietnam and the NLF, was sponsored by two

Trotskyist organizations in France. One of the VAW

national officers addressed this conference and it was

reported that the French Communist Party had paid for

the expenses of the VVAW contingent at the conference.

During October, 1972, the National Steering

Committee (NSC) of VVAW met and discussed the direction

of VAW and the need to make it an anti-imperialist

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political group, rather than "just another coup of war

veterans."

• lost of the sneakers participating aù this

meeting erpressed their views indicating VAll vas

utilizing a Marxist-oriented analysis of vorld problers.

Additionally, it was indicated that VVi had established

relations with the Irish Republican Arny, lad contact

In April, 1975, the organization changed its

name to Wa/linici Soldier Organization (VVEH/W3J).

Ine change was made in order to absorb into the organi-

zation, individuals who were not veterans of military

service.

By April, 1073, VVAW/SO leadership claimed

to have connections

over 200 foreign organisations

and maintained that YVAi/7150 was considered a credible

organization by these organizations.

In october, Luts,

representatives of Vai/so attended and participated in

the "orld reace Congress, lloscow, U.S.g.R.

In 1973,

an idcological split became evident

within the national lenderchin of VVAM/00. The split

arose between those espousing

the larrist-leninist

doctrine and those espousing the llarkist-Leninist

doctrine as interpreted by MAD Ise tung. During 1973,

the anti-laoist inrxist-leninist group seemed to be

dominant and expressed determination in educating the

VVAN/SO membershin in their doctrine.

By 1973, VVA:/HSO

was composed of approxinately 130 chapters with

an

estinated menbership of 2, 000.

The National Headquarters

was, and still is, located in Chicago, Illinois.

By April, 107A, the NSC devoted itself to the

theme of defining VVAJ/100 as a politically oriented

organization, canable of uniting with as many peoplc

as possible to combat u.s. imperialisn.

The hope was

expressed that vall/uso would become part of the vanguard

of the revolution within this country.

"ithin the nee,

dissatisfaction develoned and was expressed by some of

the chapters concerning the Wau/00 publication,

"Winter Soldicr." The dissatisfied nembers clained the

publication reflected connunist propaganda rather than

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chapter activities, news about the Third World, aid news

of activist groups.

Additional' disenchantment. with

Soviet-type connunism reportedly manifest itsclf in the

sending of a lettor of censure to the Soviet Union;

protesting the r'ape of a female VVA.Y/WSO delogate to the

World Peace Council,. held in Hoscow curing 1973. VVA!/

WSO

reportedly severed relations with the crust over

this incident.

In October, 1974, VVA/NSO held a National GI

Organizing Conference designed to initiato the building

of a fighting, anti inperialist novenent within the U.s.

military jor the purpose oi creating aisruption and

disorientation within the nilitary then the revolution

occurred.

In December, 1074, the loc voted to align

VVAW/1i00 with the Revolutionary Union (RU). This

changed their political position fron a Ingely larnist

appionch to one following a strict noisi line.

This

alignment with PU created internal strife vithin VYA™/

WSO. • Sone chapters which refused to adopt the laoist

line were severed fron the national organization.

In

June, 1075, some of the YVal/SO chapters which did not

support the

intional Office hold a neeting in which they

verifica soverance fron the national organization end

agreed to set un an independent organization.

This

rival group was intended to be anti-inperialist in

nature, but, to date, its future is not certain.

The current lational Office of VVAN/WSO is

strongly influenced by RU and could develop into an

Ru front.

Throughout its history, VVAN/We0 has not been

a vell-disciplined, theoretically consistent organication.

The various claptors never rigidly followed the

• cictates

and policies presented by the intional Office.

have been instances of rejection of the rational Office

concopts both on a chantei and a rogional basis.

cossation of the U.S. involvenent in the war in Bouthoast

sin substantially cocreased the embership of at/ico.

Humerous individuals and many chapters withdrew fron

the organization. Chaptors and regions vere dissolved

or consolicnted.

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In 1074, IBI field offices were instructed to

analyze the chapters and regions in their respective

territories. If the local organization did not subscribe

to the policies of the lational Office and vere not

arxist-Leninist groups advocating the overthrow of the

Governnent, the invostigation o. the local organisation

was to be terninated.

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of the local chapters and

regions continued to

be noninally alfiliated with the

nationwide VVAW/"ISO, but the splintering and the internal

ideological disputes demanded close examination of the

local positions of each region and chapter. lany of the

investigations of the various

chapters vere closed, not

because they were no longer active, but because of their

apparent failure to follow the Marxist-leninist

revolutionary posture of the National. Office. Ho current

nationwide nenbership figures are available for VVAl/iSO

because

TBI investigation is limited to specific chapters

which are revolutionary in nature.

Currently, the most

active of these chapters exist in Chicago, Milwaukee,

New York

and san Diego.

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5-140 (Rev. 1-21-74) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

WASHINGTON, D. C. 20535

Addressee:

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

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[ Memo [ Report dated

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Caption of Document

Dousent Select Committee (HSC). Re: Info

Concerning Vietnam Veterans Against

This War (VVAW). (HSC letters 10/20/75 &

10/28/75,

& Bu memo 11/14/75)

Originating Office:

FBI

Delivered by faurie A. Xem

12-9.25

Received by: fus B. F.Ol

Title:- CounseL

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The Attorney Ceneral

Director, FBI

2 - Mr. J. A. Mintz

(1 - Mr. J. B. Hotis)

1 • Mr. W. R. Wannall

November 25, 1975

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U. S. HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

ON INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (HSC)

Enclosed herewith are two Xerox copies

Members of the HSC on November 5, 1975.

SA O'Connor has revieved this transcript and has made

minor corrections which have been penciled in.

HSE Staff Member James Oliphant on November 11, 1975,

advised SA Paul V.

Daly of this Bureau that the notation

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Spocial Counsel for

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Intervieved regarding his assignment at Washington

Field Office and the FBI's investigation of Institute for

Poliey Studies and the handling of the informant Earl Robert

Merritt.

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SIIICI COSITOZE OS INTULLEOSICE

staff Interriew

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The staff interview began at 10:00 o'clock a.m.,

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MI. BOOS. Do you swear the statements you are about

to give the House Select Committee on Intelligence are the

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Mr. O'Connor. I do.

Mr. Oliphant. MI. O'Connor, as I am sure you are well

aware, we are with the House Select Committee on Intelligence.

We are both attorneys, but we are certainly not prosecutors.

The House Select Committee is not in a prosecutive capacity.

However, just for the record, I will advise you of your

rights..

You do, of course, have a right to have counsel present.

Anything you say may be used against you at some future time.

If you wish to stop speaking at any time, of course, you don't

have to answer and you can confer with counsel at any time.

I see you have your counsel here; is that correct?

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Mx. O'Connor. Yes,, I dó.

TESTIMONY OF TERRY T. O'CONNOR, SPECIAL AGENT,

FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, ACCOMPANIED BY

BENJAMIN C. FLANNAGAN, ATTORNEY, AND DAVID H. WHITE,

ATTORNEY

Mr. Oliphant. Mr. O'Connor, how long have you been

with the FBI?

Mr. O'Connor. Just a little over seven years.

Mr. Oliphant. what field offices have you been in?

Mr. O'Connor. I have been assigned to the New Orleans

Division, the New York Office, the San Francisco Division and

the washington Field Office. I am currently assigned to the

Headquarters here in Washington.

Mr. Oliphant. How long have you been working in Headquarters

here in Washington?

Mr. O'Connor. Since about the end of May of this year,

Mr. Oliphant. And before that, you were with the Washington

Field Office; is that correct?

Mr. O'Connor. That is correct.

MI. Oliphant. How long were you with them?

Mr. O'Connor. I believe it was a little over four

Mr. Oliphant. Starting at the beginning of your four

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•Mr. O'Connor. It was sometime, I believe, around

the middle or just after the middle of April of 1971.

Mr. Oliphant. Now, could you describe in chronological

order what your duties were with the Wasington Field Office?

In other words, what squads of units were you assigned to?

Mr. O'Connor. Okay. Initially I was assigned to a squad

that handled New Left investigations. ' While I was a part

of that squad I was a part of a smaller unit that was engaged

in the investigation to locate certain New Left fugitives. It

• kind of a criminal-security type of an investigation

we were conducting.

Then I guess it was about September of 1972, I was

transferred from that squad to a squad that conducts bank robbefy

and fugitive investigations.

Mr. Oliphant. From your transfer from the squad and

the unit which dealt with the New Left to the squad which

dealt with bank robbery, since that time, September of

1972, have you had any further contact with New Left

investigations?

Mr. O'Connor. Not that I can recall. You know,!

nothing. I didn't have any investigation leads assigned

to me or something like that as far as I can recall.

Mr. Oliphant. Okay. Why were you transferred from your

duties with the New Left to your duties with the Bank Robbery

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Mr. O'Connor. That was à decision that was made by

someone else. I do not know what the basis of it was.

I had indicated some interest in working criminal work.

Mr. Oliphant. Had you indicated any dissatisfaction

in working radical work?

Mx. O'Connor. Not as such.

I did have a preference for criminal work.

Mr. Oliphant. Since September, 1972, you have been

completely divorced, officially at least, from the New Left,

is that correct?

Mr. O'Connor. That is correct.

Mr. Oliphant. The squad that you worked on when you worked

the New Left--and to put it in a time frame, from April, 1971,

to September, 1972, is that correct?

Mr. O'Connor. Approximately.

Mr. Oliphant. Did that have a nickname or a name?

Mr. O'Connor. S-7 Squad.

Mr. Oliphant. Did it have any other nicknames, official or

unofficial?

Mr. O'Connor. No. I always referred to it as s-7,

if I had to describe it.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever hear anybody refer to it as

the Red Squad?.

Mr. O'Connor. No.

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Regarding a smaller

the fugitive urit, did you work closely with Guy Goodwin

at all?

MI. O'Connor. I never did. As a matter of fact, I

never did meet Mr. Goodwin.

I know that he was concerned with some of the bombing

investigations.

But I personally did not work with him.

Mr. Oliphant. Mr. O'Connor, tell me this: When you

were working with this squad, how were you dressed? How

did you come to work? What did you look like?

Mr. O'Connor. Initially I came to work in a suit and

tie. But beginning, I suppose, during the summer of '71,

I began to grow a beard and long hair and at some point

I began to dress in old clothes.

Mr. Oliphant. Why was that?

Mr. O'Connor. It facilitated certain of our investigations,

surveillance and things of that nature where we would blend

into an area in which we were conducting a physical surveillance

of some sort.

Mr. Oliphant.

Sure. Was this your idea?

Mr.

O'Connor. Part of it was. It was a combination of

my idea and the Bureau was interested in having people who

did have that particular appearance.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you have to receive Bureau approval

for that?

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Mr. Oliphant.. Did you continue to carry your identification

and such when you did this?

Mx. O'Connor. Yes, I dia.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you always announce yourself as an FBI

agent if people asked you waht you did?

What did you say, let's say, to people who were not

connected with the Bureau, people conceivably in the New Left?

MI. O'Connor.

well, if I was interviewing someone?

Mr. Oliphant. Let's say you were just out mingling with

people.

Mr. O'Connor. If I was out mingling with people, I

would not have identified myself.

Mr. Oliphant. Did there come a time when you came to

know a fellow by the name of Earl Robert Merritt, Jr.?

ME. O'Connor. Yes.

Mx. Oliphant. How did that come about?

Mc. O'Connor.

Initially we were, because of the way

we looked, we kind of blended into the area around Dupont

Circle. As I recall, one of

the agents on one of the

criminal squads was looking for an individual up around

the Dupont Circle area.

It was some kind'of a fugitive

investigation. They had asked us if we could help them.

We talked to a police officer assigned to the Second District,

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He said that he

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knew somebody up around the Circle who might know the

individual, who was familiar with the Dupont Circle area.

So he took us up there and introduced -- I don't know whether

there was anybody else with me aside from Carl -- he

introduced

me to this individual, Butch, showed him the

photograph, I do not know if he showed him any other photographs,

but he didn't seem to know the person.

Shortly thereafter, around

October 1, Meritt called me

It the office and he said that he had been working. for the

Metropolitan Police Department, that he was dissatisfied with

them and that he wanted to go to work for us if we would pay

him enough for the information which he said he could furnish.

Mr. Oliphant. So it was

Merritt who initiated the contacts

This was purely sort of a chance initial acquaintance to find

this fugitive, a one-shot affair, is that correct?

Mr. O'Connor. That is correct.

Mr. Oliphant. You did not expect him to call you back

or be in contact with you again?

Mr. O'Connor. No. As a matter of fact, I was surprised

that he did.

Mr. Oliphant. What did you say to him when he called?

Mr. O'Connor. I asked him what kind of information he

could furnish. Basically, to put it in general terms, he said

he could furnish information concerning criminal matters

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Mr. Oliphant. What sort of criminal matters?

Mr. O'Connor: Fugitive matters, perhaps narcotics

Information which we would pass along to whatever agency

would be interested in it.. He also said that he was concerned

because he felt that we might be looking for him

concerning a fraudulent check or a bad check matter. I don't

know quite how

he put it, but it involved a check.

Mr. Oliphant. Did he bring that out in this initiai

phone call?

Mr. O'Connor. He brought it out. He said, fI have

one problem before I go to work for you? He said, #I have

this problem and I think the FBI has been looking for me

in this matter.

He was calling me. I knew where he lived,

but I might explain that I could never call him except to

return a call to a pay phone because he did not have a phone

in his residence. He said that he was concerned about this.

I said I was going to have to check. I told him at that time

that if I found out that we either wanted him on an outstanding

warrant or we wanted to talk to him, that somebody was

going to be up to see him, or try to, you know.

Mr. Oliphant. When was this, Mr: O'Connor?

MI. O'Connor. He called me about October 1.

Mr. Oliphant. 1971?

Mr. O'Connor.

1971, excuse me. I probably got back to

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that we had been interested in him with respect to a bad check

matter and that the U. S. Atrorney's Office in West Virginia

had declined prosecution. I also checked NCIC to see if there

were any outstanding warrants for him or anything like that

under his true pame which he had said he had not been using.

He gave me his true name.

Mr. Oliphant. Let me ask you this: Did you inform him

that the U. S. Attorney in West Virginia had declined prose-

cution?

MI. O'Connor. That is what I was just about to tell

you. I certainly did. I told him that as far as I knew that

the prosecution had been declined and that I had found that

he was -- I don't know whether he was -- I guess he was the

subject of the investigation, and that the U. S. Atforney's

Office had declined prosecution, that I couldn't find that

he was wanted anyplace else and as far as I was concerned

that was no longer a stumbling block.

Mr. Oliphant. When did you tell him this?

Mr. O'Connor. It would have been a day or two after

the initial phone call, if it wasn't the same day.

Mr. Oliphant. So we are still working within the

first five days of October, roughly?

MI. O'Connor. Yes.

We had to get that straightened out. The Bureau would

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Mr. Oliphant. When after that did he receive his

first payment?

MI. O'Connor.

I don't think it was - he gave me some

Information after we got that all straightened out. He gave

me some information not too long after and it was within

a week or ten days and I paid him shortly thereafter.

Mr. Oliphant. How much did you pay him?

MI. O'Connor. I do not remember exactly. I would have

to guess.

Mr. Oliphant. If he said that he was paid $75, would

that seem to be an accurate figure?

Mr. O'Connor. The first time?

MI. Oliphant. Yes.

Mr. O'Connor. I don't think so.

Mr. Oliphant. Was he ever paid on a regular basis?

Mr. O'Connor.

Never. Do you mean a flat sum?

He was paid, Mr. Oliphant, on the basis of the value of the

information he furnished. It was on a strictly COD basis.

do not consider informants to be employees. He was told that

We

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Mr. Oliphant. Do you know, then, as a matter of

clincidence, what were the periods in which he received

moneys?

MI. O'Connor. It would depend on the frequency at which

we received information.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you know if the amounts he received varied

from time to time?

Mr. O'Connor. They did.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you also pay expenses?

Mr. O'Connor. Occasionally.

MI. Oliphant. Do you recall the most you ever paid him

at one time?

Mr. O'Connor. No, I don't. In one lump sum? No.

Mr. Oliphant. What was the nature of the information

which he referred to you?

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Mr. Oliphant. Let's say the first time.

Mr. O'Connor. I think the first time we really

went out and talked to him, Bill Tucker and I went out and talked

to him, we talked generally and we got information that

would have been security-type information. We showed him

photographs of the Weathermen fugitives we were looking for,

things of that nature. I do not know whether we got criminal

information from him at that time or not.

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Mr. Oliphant. Was Bill Tucker your partner?

Mr. O'Connor.

We never work as partners as such, but

Bill and I work together quite a bit during the time

I worked on S-7, most of the time while I had the long

hair and the beard.

Mr. Oliphant. Did there come a time when you knew that

Earl Robert Meritt had contacts with the IPS Institute?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes, he told us that at the outset.

Mr. Oliphant. Were you interested in that?

MI. O'Connor.

Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Why?

Mr. C'Connor. For two reasons. One, we felt that

there were certain Weathermen fugitives who might be in

contact with individuals who were associatd with the

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it was really a secondary concern to us because our

primary concerns were the new left fugitives.

But the Bureau also did have an intelligence investigation

concerning the Institute.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you know why they had an intelligence

interest in the Institute?

Mr. O'Connor. I could not give you the specific

reasons because that was not by case. For instance, I was

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What were the aspeats that you were

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well, one of the things we were concerned

about was the fact that it seemed to us that a lot of

demonstrations had their roots out there. I guess that

would have been the thing that I was primarily, aware of.

Mr. Oliphant. Did someone tell you that the IPS was an

intelligence target?

MI. O'Connor. Yes.

MI. Oliphant. Who told you that?

MI. O'Connor. That could have been any one of a number

of people.

Mr. Oliphant. Can you list the people who you believe

told you it was an intelligence target?

Mr. O'Connor. Could I ask a question off the record?

(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Atkisson. Mr. O'Connor, let me say something that

perhaps should have been said at the beginning of this

interview.

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guess whenever we ask you a question. Indeed, all answers

should be of your own knowledge.

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clarify it or restate it:

With that caveat, let us resume.

Mr. Oliphant. I will rephrase the question here.

You stated that IPS was a traget?

Mr. O'Connor. The Institute for Policy Studies was the

subject of an investigation.

Mr. Oliphant. And it is fair to characterize it as an

intelligence target, is that correct?

Mr. O'Connor. I think so.

MI. Oliphant. Now, who told you that it was an intelligence

target, or more specifically how did you know it was an

intelligence target?

Mr. O'Connor. Well, I knew from talking to the

case agent. I'm sure I talked to the case agent and just from

general conversation on the squad. I cannot remember who

the case agent was at that time.

There was general conversation. Over and above that,

it would have been confirmed by the case agent. I cannot

remember. It could have been an agent by the name of sawyer.

I know he had the case assigned to him at one time.

Mr. Oliphant. Why was

IPS a target?

Mr. O'Connor. I don't remember specifically. I do know

that as I said

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nought they had their roots back there at

IPS. There were a number of organizations

involved in

demonstrations, for instance, who were representatives which

spent time

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reasons that we were Interested in it.

That would, have been the reason with which I was most

familiar because we were concerned at that time with demonstra-

tions.

Mr. Atkisson. What kind of demonstrations are you

talking about?

Mr. O'Connor. Demonstrations in the nature of May Day

demonstrations.

Mr. Atkisson. well, my recollection. of the history

of the times is that there were not very many demonstrations

on that scale.

Are you talking about May Day itself, or others like

May Day, but smaller in scale?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes, May Day. would have been, I guess,

the culmination at that time. I was not familiar with anything

that had gone on before that time and any involvement they

may have had in any previous demonstrations.

MI. Oliphant. Were you ever told that IPS was a

center for subersives?

MI. O'Connor.

Yes. If I was not told that, I would have

gotten the impression very definitly. I would say, yes, that

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was told that. Who would have told me that, I don't know.

Mr. Oliphant. Why would you say that?.

Mr. O'Connor. Because it was and it is still my

impression that not all persons up there were not necessarily

people who would be considered subversives but that there

were people up there who we would have considered to be

subversive perhaps.

Mr. Oliphant. Did there come a time when you asked Earl

Robert Nerritt to try and infiltrate himself into the IPS?

Mr. O'Connor. Well, Merritt had told us when he first

contacted me that he had already been, well, he was associated

with people up there. He knew people up there. He had been

performing odd jobs up there

for the Institute and for

particular individuals up there at the Institute on a

regular basis; that he knew Mr. Waskow, Mr. Raskin, Jo Anne Malone

and some other individuals up there.

Mr. Oliphant. Were these people targets or were there

cases opened on these people?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes, there were.

Mr. Oliphant. Why were there cases opened on them,

if you know?

• Mr. O'Connor. They would have been security type

cases. We were interested in their activities. Why they were

originally opened, I don't know.

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Were you personally

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of those individual cases?

-Mr. O'Connor.

No, I didn*t have any: of those assigned

to me.

Mr. Oliphant. I asked you if you ever askea MI. Merritt

to infiltrate. You said that he had tolâ you he was

in contact with the people. But did you ask him to try and

stay in touch, and try and get a job there?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes, I did. •

Mr. Oliphant. Was he able to?

Mr. O'Connor. As I understood it he was up there on

a very regular basis and he did odd jobs for them. He

told us they were considering giving him a permanent job

up there. That never materialized. He never did get what

would be considered a regular job up there.

Mr. Oliphant. Did there come a time when Mr. Merritt

called you and told you that he had some mail and some

other documents and papers and such from the IPS?

MX. O'Connor. No.

Mr. Oliphant. Was there ever any time when he called

you in the evening saying he had just taken some mail from

the IPS or taken some documents?

Mr. O'Connor. No.

Mr. Oliphant. To your knowledge, did he ever call

Special Agent Tucker?

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Right around Thanksgi

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apparently called Bill. I was out of town. I had taken

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ended up meeting Bill and giving him

an envelope that he said came from the trash along with

the contents of the envelope which were in the trash and gave

them to Bill..

Mr. Oliphant. Io your knowledge, did he ever steal

some mail and give it either to you or Mr. Tucker and then,

after this mail was evaluated, did you personally ever

return it to him?

Mx. O'Connor. No, we never had any mail. With respect

to this envelope that he gave us, we had the envelope. We

never did inventory the thing. We Xeroxed a copy of a speech

that was in it. I believe it had been given at People's Grand

Jury earlier by an individual who was connected with IPS.

We took the envelope and its contents and gave it back

to Merritt and told him to return it to the trash of IPs,

if that is where it belonged.

Mr. Oliphant. Did he ever give you a letter from Colgate

University to Professor Waskow, which contained an airline

ticket?

MI. O'Connor. No, he didn't.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you know of your knowledge knowledge

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Mr

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phone with him?

Mr. O: Connor. Not that I know of.

MI. Oliphant. Would you be willing to give a sample

of your voice for analysis?

MI. O'Connor. • Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you know that Meritt was a homosexual?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes, I dia.

Mr. Oliphant. How did you know that?

Mr. O'Connor. He told us.

MI. Oliphant. Did you tell him that made him desirable

as an informant?

Mr. O'Connor. No, not necessarily. It just happened

to be a trait that he had.

MI. Oliphant. Did this make him desirable as an informant?

Mr. O'Connor. Well, he might be able to - it is possible

that he might be able to get close to people that other indi-

viduals would not be able to get close to.

Mr. Oliphant. No pun intended?

MI. O'Connor. No.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever ask him about the homosexual

affairs of other citizens?

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Mr. Oliphant. Yes.

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Mr. Oliphant. Were you interested in this information

when he volunteered it to you?

MI. O'Connor. You mean just the fact that people were

homosexuals?

Mr. Oliphant. Yes.

Mr. O'Connor. No.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever incorporate this information

into any reports?

Mr. O'Connor. jes.

Mr. Oliphant. Why?

Mr. O'Connor. Well, because with respect to one individual,

for instance, he continued to bring up the fact that the man

was a homosexual.

Mr. Oliphant. Why was this relevant?

Mr. O'Connor. It was relevant, I suppose, because this

was one facet of the man's personality.

As far as I recall it was no secret. The man made

no secret of that fact. It was one of the reasons that we

felt that Merritt had a better chance of getting close

to the individual, again not in an intimate sense.

Mr. Oliphant. What sort of individual was this?

MI. O'Connor. The individual's name was Jack Davis.

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we considered him a suspect.

In the Capital bombing and .-

No. 2, we also felt that he might very well be a contact: --

for some of the New Left fugitives, the Weathermen fugitives

we were looking for.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever ask Merritt to give you any

gossip or any details regarding homosexuality with regard

•to prominent American citizens?

MI. O'Connor. Did we ever ask him for that information?

Mr. Oliphant. Yes.

Mr. O'Connor. No, we did not.

Mr. Atkisson.

Given your emphasis on the word "we",

may I take it there were other people who did ask him that,

to your knowledge?

MI. O'Connor. No. He would volunteer that information

from time to time. We didn't ask him for it. It was not the

type of thing that we would record.

Mr. Atkisson. Did you encourage it?

Mr. O'Connor.

No, we didn't.

As far as I was concerne, d the Bureau didn't really

have any interest in gossip as such.

Mr. Atkisson. Did you ever in your activities as a

special agent at any time include in any report, written

report that you did, any type of information concerning

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Mr. Oliphant. Certainly.

We are not trying to pin you down, go ahead.

MI. O'Connor.

He did. I don't know if it was on one

occasion or on two occasions, or what.

He did mention that there were a couple of individuals

who were the victims of extortion as a result of their

sexual activities. He could never take this past the rumor

stage.

we told him that if in fact he could substantiate it

there would be a criminal violation and we would certainly

do something about it. But since that was never taken past

the rumor stage, it was never made a matter of record.

Mr. Flannagan. May we clarify? The criminal violation

is the extortion and not the homosexuality.

Mr. Oliphant. Yes, 18 USC 94.

Did you ever threaten Mr. Merritt regarding his check

violations?

Mr. O'Connor. I never did. That is why, as I explained

at the beginning, we made it perfectly clear that Mr.

Merritt had nothing to worry about as far as we knew.

Mr. Oliphant. What did you know about the kind of

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Police Department?

Mr. O'Connor.

I knew he had been an informant because

he said he had been an informant. What he did for the

Metropolitan Police Department specifically, I don't know.

I assume he had apparently had, based on his statements

to me, he would have been concerned with the May Day demonstra-

tions and people involved with it and I guess the Institute

for Policy Studies, too.

Mr. Oliphant. Well, Mr. O'Connor, you had good relation-

ship with the Intelligence Division at the Metropolitan

Police Department, didn't you?

Mr. O'Connor. Myself?

Mr. Oliphant. Yes.

Mr. O'Connor. I talked to people down there occasionally.

Mr. Oliphant. When you take on an informant with the

Bureau, someone that just gives information does not instan-

taneously become an informant.

Mr. O'Connor: No, not really.

Mr. Oliphant. He has to be checked out, his reliability,

et cetera?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Didn't you try and check out his

reliability with the Metropolitan Police Department?

MI. O'Connor. I think, as I recall, that my judgment

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to his reliability probably would have

• been based•

on the fact that Officer Shoffler had introduced me.

He apparently considered him to be reliable.

Mr. Oliphant. Did he tell you he was

reliable?

Ar. O'Connor. Yes, I believe so.

He did furnish some good information.

Mr. Oliphant. Shoffler was basically interested in criminal

matters, wasn't he?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes, he was. I wanted to make that

distinction. He was not assigned to the Intelligence Branch.

Mr. Oliphant.

But Merritt had been working with

intelligence officers; hadn't he?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Why didn't you ask them?

Mr. O'Connor. I think there was a conversation I had

with them but it was primarily a conversation and if I

talked to anybody, I would have talked to Chris Scrapper.

The conversation would have been just to make sure we

AN INFORMANT

were not stealing

I don't know whether he called me or I

called him, but it would have been to determine whether of

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not we were taking an informant away from him.

Mr. Oliphant. Weren't you interested in knowing whether

he was reliable?

Mr. O'Connor. I would imagine. I'm sure there was

someting said. We would have been, yes. But at the same time

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MI. Oliphant. Was Tucker an older hand?

Mr. O'Connor.. No, Tucker was not an older hand.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you know if lucker inquired regarding

his reliability?

Mr. O'Connor. No, not that I know of.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you know if anybody inquired regarding

his reliability?

MI. O'Connor. Not off hanä.

Mr. Oliphant. Were you ever apprised of what kind of

activities he had been conducting for the Intelligence

Division of the Metropolitan Police Department?

Mr. O'Connor. No.

Mr. Oliphant. Did he ever tell you?

Mr. O'Connor. He told us that he was concerned, that

they were concerned about people involved with the May Day

demonstrations, Jack Davis and Rennie Davis, I guess, and some

of those individuals; and that they were concerned about

IPS. As far as the specific activities were concerned, no.

Mr. Oliphant. Did he ever inform you that he had been

asked to do some break-ins for the Metropolitan Police

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Mr. O'Cornor. I do not recall him saying anything

like that:

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever ask him to take things?

Mr. O'Connor. I never did.

Mr. Oliphant. Not even membership lists?

Mx. O'Connor. Well, let's put it this way: I tola

him never to take anything wrongfully. If he came across

a leaflet or a pamphlet or something like that, or

anything he had a right to have, that was a different matter,

he could obviously have that; but as far as taking anything

in the sense of taking it, whether he had a right to have

it or not, no, we never told him that.

MI. Oliphant. Did you specifically tell him that

If he did not have a right to take given material, he was

not to take it?

Mr. O'Connor. That if he didn't have a right to have

something, that he shouldn't take it, yes, and that he was

never to do anything illegal. I told him this on several

occasions.

MI. Oliphant. Did you define for him what were illegal

•activities?

Mr. O'Connor. Well, I'm sure that I probably mentioned

theft and break-ins since that would have been the primary

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•Mx. Oliphant. Are you familiar with the Community Book

Store at 2028 ₽ Street?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes.

Mx. Oliphant. What do you know about that?

Mr. O'Connor. I know that it was on I Street. It was

very close: to his residence.

Mx. Oliphant. What sort of place was it?

Mr. O'Connor. I have never been in it. I assume that

it was a book store that had a lot of materials that were

political, New Left type reading material.

Mr. Oliphant. Why do you assume that?

Mr. O'Connor. Because that was my understanding:

You know, he used. to go into the place all the time.

He would tell me what they had in there and other people

told me what they had in there.

Mr.. Oliphant. Informants?

Mr. O'Connor. No, just agents.

Mr. Oliphant. Was the Community Book Store an intelligence

target?

Mr. O'Connor. Not as such, not that I know of.

Mr. Oliphant. Was it under surveillance?

Mr. O'Connor. No, not that I know of.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever come into possession of

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Mr. Olipiant. Did Agent Tucker, to your knowledge?

Mr. O'Connor.

Io my knowledge he never did, either.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever ask Merritt to break into

the Community Book Store?

Mr. O'Connor. No. We would never have any reason to

ask him to do something iike that.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you know if he ever broke into the

Community Book Store?

MI. O'Connor. Not that I know of.

MI. Oliphant. Did he ever bring you any materials

from the Community Book Store?

Mr. O'Connor. He used to bring us stuff all the time.

There were perhaps pamphlets or leaflets that he would get

from up there.

Mr. Oliphant. Did he ever bring you things, let's

say, from anyplace that were non-public-domain kind of things,

things like membership lists or confidential communications,

that sort of thing. letters?

Mr. O'Connor. I would say that that package he got

from the Institute was something that he didn't have-- you

know, that he normally would not have 'had.

Mr. Oliphant. What was in that package?

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Mr. Oliphant.

Where did you say that came from, again?

Mr. O'Connor. It came

from the trash, apparently.

Mx. Oliphant. Are you

familiar with the Union of American

Hebrew Congregations?

Mr. O'Connor. I became familiar with it when I read

an article written by Jack Anderson in the Washington Post

a couple of weeks ago.

Mr. Oliphant. Is that your first knowledge?

Mr. O'Connor. That is my first knowledge of that

organization. As far as I know, the FBI never had an interest

in that organization.

Mr. Oliphant. Were you ever brought a box full of

envelopes that were addressed that purported to come from

the Union of the American Hebrew Congregations?

MI. O'Connor. No.

Mr. Oliphant. Were you aware of any break-ins that

Merritt performed before he became associated with the

Federal Bureau of Investigation?

MI. O'Connor. No. I don't recall him ever talking about

breaking into any place. Do you mean while he would have been

working for the police?

MI. Oliphant: Yes.

Mr. O'Connor. No.

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Mr. O'Connor. No.

MI. Oliphant. Are you familiar with the ADEX list?

Do you know what ADEX is?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes, there was an ADEX list. I know that

certain persons were on that list but I don't remember

the criteria for the thing.

Mr. Oliphant. Were any of the people at IPS on the

ADEX list?

Mr. O'Connor. That is possible. I don't recall specifically.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you have access to the ADEX list?

Mr. O'Connor.

To the list itself?

MI. Oliphant. Yes.

Mr. O'Connor. No.

Mr. Oliphant. What did you tell Merritt regarding the

people that were working at IPS, or connected with IPS?

MI. O'Connor. We told him we were intereseta in finding

out whether any of the fugitives had any contact with indi-

viduals up there. We thought that they might have contact

with Waskow or Raskin.

Mr. Oliphant. Why did you think that?

Mr. O'Connor. Basically because Mike Spiegel, who was

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specifically, as I recall.

We felt that the fugitives were

most likely to be getting asistance from that type of a

person, people who had money and people who had agreed

with them idiologically.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever characterize in any way .

the individuals at IPS to Merritt?

Mr. O'Connor. Characterize them?

MI. Oliphant. Did you characterize them as radicals,

as subversives, as communists, for example?

Mr. O'Connor. I don't know whether I ever used those

terms.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you use similar terms?

Mr. O'Connor. I can't remember.

He probably would have gotten that impression.

Mr. Oliphant. Why would he have received that impression

from you?.

Mr. O'Connor. In view of the fact that we thought

they might have some contact with these fugitives and

the fact that they were involved in some of these demonstra-

tions, et cetera.

He knew that was the type of thing we were interested

in.

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that.I had.

Mr. Oliphant. How did you receive that impression?

Mr. O'Connor. From the conversations that I had heard

concerning these individuals.

MI. Oliphant. Conversations with whom?

Mr. O'Connor. With other agents.

Mr. Atkisson. Following up briefly on the question Tim

just asked and you answered, you and Agent Tucker and I

gather a number of agents in the Washington Field Office were

all interested in IPS and specifically Special Agent Sawyer,

Van Wagenen, Rogers,

Rudiger, Feuer, and j. P. Chase.

That is fully six agents in the Washington Field Office

involved in IPS surveillance. Did you have much contact

with those agents?

Mr. O'Connor. All of them were on the same squad

I was on.

Mr. Atkisson. And you worked closely with these six

individuals?

Mr. O'Connor. We worked in the same squad room and I

would talk to them occasionally, yes.

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individuals that you first received the impression that IPS

was generally dangerous?

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agents, yes.

Mr. Atkisson. At the time you were involved in investi-

gating IPS, from which specific person did you derive, in

your impression of things,

from which specific person

did you derive your authority to investigate IPS? Who told

you to do it?

Mr. O'Connor. It would have been probably the supervisor.

Mr. Atkisson. I'm asking where you got your authority.

You are speculating.

Mr. O'Connor. I don't know. I would not have gotten

authority.as such. What I am saying is if you obtained

information which appeared to be pertinent to an investigation

that was being conducted and you were aware, well, obviously

you gave that or provided that information to whoever was

interested.

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and therefore, I would just provide the information, any

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Mr. O'Connor.

Right.

Mr. Atkisson.

Who did you submit those to?

Mr. O'Connor. They would go to the Supervisor first.

Mr. Atkisson. Your supervisor?

Mr. O'Connor. Right.

Mr. Atkisson. Whom would that be?

Mr. O•Connor. John Palmer, at that time.

Mr. Atkisson. Is he in the Washington Field Office, or

was he at that time?

Mr. O'Connor.

Yes. I think he still is, too.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever apprehend any fugitives as a

result of your study of IPS?

Mr. O'Connor. Never.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever apprehend any fugitives

as a result of your association with Robert Merritt?

Mr. O'Connor. No.

Mr. Atkisson. How long were you involved in the

investigation of IPS?

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Mr. O'Connor.

Was I involved?

Mr. Atkisson. Let me put it this way: How long was

your association with Robert Merritt and his association with

IPS?

How long did those three things coincide?

Mr. O'Connor. Well, I guess really that my interest,

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the Ist of October when Merritt originally talked to us

to about the end of January, when we told Merrittto stay

away from IPS.

Mr. Oliphant.

why did you tell Merritt to stay away

from IPS?

Mr. O'Connor. Well, because it appeared that his efforts

up there were at best counter-productive. He just didn't

belong up there.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you have any other homosexual informants?

Mr. O'Connor. Informants as such, no.

Mr. Oliphant.

well, any other homosexual sources?

Mr. Atkisson. Don't give us the names.

Mr. Oliphant. We don't need the names.

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MI. O'Connor.

I know Bill did.

Mr. Oliphant.

Bill Tucker?

Mr. O'Connor.

Yes, Bill aid.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you know if either you or Mr. Tucker

ever asked any of these informants or sources, in the most

generic sense, people who gave information or were cooperative

with the Bureau, did you ever ask any of these people to

check up on Merritt?

Mr. O'Connor. No.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever ask any of them to make

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Mr. Oliphant. To your knowledge, did anyone make

contact with Merritt on the request of either you or Special

Agent Tucker or any other FBI agents?

Mr. O'Connor. Not that I know of. Do you mean another

informant or homosexual informant?

Not that I can recall.

(Discussion off therecord.)

Mr. O'Connor. I did want tosay as far as that

envelope was concerned, the contents of that--you were asking

about mail, I don't recall that there was any mail in there,

anything that would have obviously come from the mail or

would have been intended for the mail. Whether anything

had been in the mail of not, I don't know. You know, it is

conceivable that something had been in the mail, but I don't

think we would have known that. That speech could have

gone through the mail, for instance.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever give him a code name?

Mr. O'Connor. No. I called him Butch.

Mr. Oliphant. Was he ever given the name Eric by

you or Mr. Tucker?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes, excuse me, yes.

Mr. Oliphant. What was the story there?

Mr. O'Connor. I think he did occasionally call, if

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him, he would either identify himself as Butch or Eric

if somebody else answered the phone. But I believe he used

Butch more than he did Eric.

Mr. Oliphant. Why was Merritt terminated?

Mr. O'Connor. Merritt was terminated because we found

out that he had been furnishing us unreliable information.

Mr. Oliphant. What sort of unreliable information?

Mr. O'Connor. We found out that information he had

been furnishing us concerning Jack Davis was unreliable.

We found out that specific information was unreliable and

we went back and started considering some of the other things

he had told us about davis. We felt what he might have been

doing was playing both ends against the middle. What he was

doing was furnishing us not only unreliable, but misleading

information.

Mr. Oliphant. Was his termination acrimonious?

Mr. O'Connor. For him, I guess it was.

Mr. Oliphant. Were there harsh words said at the end?

Mr. O'Connor. Not between myself and Merritt, and not

between Tucker and Merritt, as far as I recall. I do know

that we told him that we were terminating him. We didn't

tell him why. We told him it was because he had furnished

unreliable information and Iguess we probably told him, or

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Mr. Oliphant.

where, physically, did you go to tell

him that?

Mr. O'Connor. It was up in Rock Creek Park.

Mr. Oliphant. Because you wanted to talk to him?

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to get away. We drove up there and

pulled off the road and

talked to him. We told him we weren't going to accept any

more information from him on a confidential basis and he

could not consider himself an informant any longer.

Mt. Atkisson. Where did you usually meet with Merritt

when you got information from him?

Mr. O'Connor. It would have been'in any number of places.

Mr. Atkisson. But it was not in the area of Rock Creek

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we would pick him up and take him out of that area.

Mr. Atkisson. There is no place around the Rock

Creek Parkway where a car can pull off generally; is there?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes. There are some picnic areas up there.

That is where we were, as I recall.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ask him not to reveal his

relationship with the Bureau after you terminated him?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes:

Mr. Oliphant. Why did you ask him that?

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Because that is our normal procedure

with anyone.

MI. Oliphant. Did you ever threaten him?

Mr. O-Connor. No.

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Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever use him as a witness ir

any case?

Mr. O'Connor. No.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever make any cases as a result

of his input? By that I mean were any cases ever presented

for prosecution even to the U. S. Attorney's Office or

the Department of Justice?

MI. O'Connor. We didn't, no. There were a couple of

criminal matters that we passed on to the police. Whether

they ever presented --

Mr. Oliphant. As far as the FBI, you never even presented

a case to the Department of Justice, is that correct,

based on this?

MI. O'Connor. No.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you know how much he was paid,

roughly?

Mr. O'Connor. I think over that period of time he was

paid about 1600, including payment for services and for

expenses.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you have to categorize your informants

when you write your reports?

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Mr. Oliphant. Do you have to justify the money you

spend on them?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes.

ME. Oliphant. How did you categorize Merritt?

Mr. O'Connor. He was basically a criminal informant

and was categorized as a criminal informant because he was

furnishing criminal information.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you make any comments regarding

his reliability?

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As far as we knew he was reliable until we found out

that he wasn't.

Mr. Oliphant. Don't you have to make some sort of

justification to get money for an informant?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes, but he was actually, well, the

information he was furnishing us was of value to us as

assistance in an investigation that we were conducting,

primarily with respect to the time that we were interested in

Jack Davis. I think it was probably during that time that

he got the bulk of that $1600.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever arrest Jack Davis for anything?

Mr. O'Connor. No.

MI. Oliphant. Why was the information valuable?

Mr. O'Connor. On a couple of occasions, he told us,

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that Jack Davis was in contact with Mike

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Mr. Oliphant.

Was Spiegel a fugitive?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes. These were the people we were

interested in. Those investigations were not very easy

investigations. You just didn't go out and pick somebody

up. He also told us that he had seen Bill Ayers with Jack

Davis on one occasion. He also indicated that Jack Davis

had some knowledge of an individual involved in the Capitol

bombing. This was the type of information he was furnishing

to us.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever make any comments to him

regarding Jews?

Mr. O'Connor. No. In what sense?

Mr. Oliphant. Well, did you ever tell him that Jews

were liberal?

Mr. O'Connor. No.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever tell him that they were behind,

or part of, let's say, the Communist threat? .

Mr. O'Connor. No. I think there are a lot of Irish

who are involved in some of the liberal politics so I

don't believe you can --.

Mr. Oliphant. Off the record.

(Discussion off the recora.)

Mr. Oliphant. Let me just get back to IPS. Were there

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gets, groups not readily identifiable as

Communist, let's say, or Communist organizations, groups

like the IPS that were intelligence targets?

Mr. O'Connor. Organizations like that?

Mr. Oliphant. Yes.

Mr. O'Connor. There were organizations that would have

been intelligence targets.

Mr. Oliphant. Who were the soft of groups that were

intelligence targets?

Mr. O'Connor. I guess PCPJ, People's Coalition for

Peace and Justice particularly because of their role in May Day,

the May Day organization.

We were interested in some groups

that at that time appeared to be trying to, right around

the time Merritt began to work for us, were interested in,

it appeared that they were interested in stirring up problems

in the prisons because there were quite a few problems

in the prisonsat that time.

That would have been another type of group we were

interested in in order to try to find out what a group like

that was trying to do. They organized demonstrations,

for instance, and we wanted to know how disruptive the demonstra-

tions might be.

Mr. Oliphant. At what level was a decision made to make

a group an intelligence target?

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Mr. Oliphant. Did you need permission before you

could opeán a case on an individual?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you need permission before you

could open a case on an organization?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes.

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MI. O'Connor. Well, usually, what you would do is,

I guess it would normally come from a supervisor.

He was

the man who usually opened and assigned cases.

• Mr. Oliphant. Was the supervisor the one who told

you that the FBI was interested in IPS?

Mr. O'Connor. Well, I would imagine he mentioned it.

I do not know whether he was the one who told me initially.

'As I said before, I knew that we had that pending investigation.

Mr. Oliphant. I have no further questions.

Mr. Atkisson. I have a couple. One of the places that

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Mr. O'Connor. I have heard of the Red House Collective.

I guess that was connected with the Collective.

Mr. Atkisson. Did you ever have anything to do with

any investigation whatever of the Red House Collective?

Mr. O'Connor. They were, some of this prison activity was

centered up there, and for a very short period of time we

were interested in the Red House of people connected with

the Red House Collective.

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MI. Atkisson. Were you personally interested in the

Red House Collective?

MI. O'Connor. Did I have a case on them?

Mr. Atkisson. Did you have anything to do with any

investigation?

Mr. O'Connor. I think Merritt furnished us with some

information that he got from up there.

MI. Atkisson. Did you ask him to furnish that informa-

tion?

Mr. O'Connor. We asked him to furnish information

concerning the prison demonstrations.

MI. Atkisson. Did he do so?

MI. O'Connor. Yes, I believe he did.

Mr. Atkisson. Did he ever supply mail from

the Red House Coliective?

MI. O'Connor. No.

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Mr. O'Connor. I think he probably gave us some leaflets

from up there concerning these demonstrations or meetings

they were having on prison abolition.

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you from the Red House Collective in a written memorandum?

Mr. O'Connor. Did I evaluate it?. I did write it up,

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Mr. Atkisson. Back to the other book store, the Comnunity

Book store, did you ever receive copies of petitions from

Robert Earl Merritt that ostensibly came from the Community

Book Store?

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Mr. 'Atkisson. Did Mi. Merritt ever tell you that he knew

about a potential job in the

employ of Ethel Kennedy?

MI. O'Connor.

No.

Mr. Atkisson.

He never mentioned that?

Mr. O'Connor. No. The first time I saw that was in the

same column that I referred to before.

Mr. Atkisson. So it is your testimony that until that

column in Jack Anderson you never heard of any job in the

employ of Ethel Kennedy?

Mr. O'Connor. No.

Mr. Atkisson. You never encouraged Mr. Merritt to take

such a job with Ethel Kennedy?

MI. O'Connor. No.

Mr. Atkisson. Did you encourage him to take any other job

when he first developed a relationship with the Bureau?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes; the job at the Institute.

Mr. Atkisson. Incidentally, do you know what his first

contact with the Institute was?

Mr. O'Connor.

No, I don't.

Mr. Atkisson. You say that he was already involved in

the Institute when you met him?

MI. O'Connor. That is what he told me.

• Mr. Atkisson. Did he say that was a result of the under-

cover activities with the Metropolitan Police Department?

MI. O'Connor. Yes.

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So before, when I asked

you if you knew

what his first connection with it was, the answer should have

been you knew it was because he was acting in undercover

capacity with the Metropolitan Police Department?

Mr. O'Connor. I thought you asked me what he had been

doing for the Metropolitan Police Department, and I thought I

said he was involved with May Day people and with the Institute.

MI .

Atkisson. You also mentioned that you wanted to make

sure that the Bureau wasn't stealing an informant from the

Metropolitan Police Department. I gather that you satisfied

yourself that you were not stealing an informant from the

Metropolitan Police Department.

Mr. O'Connor. Yes; as I recall, I am pretty sure I talked

to somebody down there and it was Scrapper, but I don't

actually recall, you know, the conversation other than the fact

I probably would have been -- I don't even know whether I

would have done it. I would have wanted to make sure we were

not taking somebody else's informant away because he had said

that he was an informant for the Police Department.

Mr. Atkisson. Do you know whether after he became in-

volved with the FBI he maintained a relationship with the

Metropolitan Police Department?

Mr. O'Connor.

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O'Connor. I know there was an officer down there

that -- I thought he was a social friend of Officer Kildon.

Mr. Atkisson.

How about Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms,

did you know of any relationship he might have had with them?

Mr. O'Connor. He said he worked for them.

Mr. Atkisson. At the same time he worked for the Bureau?

Mr. O'Connor. Not that I know of. I don't know whether

he was or not. He could have been.

Mr. Atkisson. You understand, I am sure, the distinc-

tion between positive and negative information, do you not?

Positive and negative information?

MI. O'Connor. In what sense?

Mr. Atkisson. Well, isn't it the case as a Special Agent

when you conduct an investigation and then you write a report

on that investigation that the information can be either posi-

tive or negative?

Mr. O'Connor. It could be.

Mr. Atkisson. If it is positive, it is relevant to some

investigative purpose; if it is negative, it is just as the

word implies, not relevant to the investigative purpose?

MI. O'Connor. Yes.

Mx. Atkisson. Is that parlance that is used at the Bureau,

or is that parlance only being used by me at the moment?

Mr. O'Connor. I think I understand what you mean.

MI. Atkisson. My question is, are you required at the

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Mr. O'Connor.

I don't know whether it wouldn't be

difficult: to sometimes - I would almost have to have an

example, sir. There are times when I think that we would get

information and it really wasn't my position to be evaluating

it.

It might be questionable, you know.

Mr. Atkisson. In your opinion. I realize I am solicit-

ing an opinion, counsel, but in your opinion from your seven

years' experience in the Bureau, would information about the

personal sex lives of individuals at IPS be considered

positive or negative?

Mr. Flannagan. That is a hypothetical?

Mr. Atkisson. That is correct.

Let's put you back in that period of time in late 1971,

early 1972. Suppose you came across such information, would

you, do you think, have included it in any reports that you

wrote up?

Mr. O'Connor. That somebody was --

Mr. Atkisson. Just information you obtained from a

source, from whatever. Would you have included such informa-

tion in any report you drew up?

Mr. O'Connor. That an individual was a homosexual?.

Mr. Atkisson. No; I didn't say that. Any information

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Mr. O'Connor. Not unless I thought it was pertinent to an

investigation; no.

Mr. Atkisson. All right. Just one more question about

your final conversation with Robert Merritt in Rock Creek Park.

Had you ever at any other time in your experience at the Bureau

of Investigation held a conversation that was in any way

business-related in Rock Creek Park?

Mr. O'Connor. I don't recall offhand, because the thing

is that when you are talking to -- I probably wouldn't have

conducted any kind of normal interview there, but if you are

talking about an informant -- I don't know whether we ever

talked to Merritt there at any other time.

Mr. Atkisson.

Where did you meet Merritt on the day you

drove to Rock Creek Park?

Mr. O'Connor. That I don't remember. It probably would

have been right around the DuPont Circle area some place.

Mr. Oliphant. Didn't you say before you usually met him

in DuPont Circle?

Mr. O'Connor. In the DuPont Circle area.

Mr. Oliphant. Why did you drive to Rock Creek Park, then?

Mr. O'Connor. Occasionally we did drive away from the

area, and we wanted to go up there and explain this to him,

because I knew what his reaction was going to be.

Mr. Oliphant. What was his reaction?

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Mr. O'Connor.

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Mr. Oliphant.

Did Tucker?

Mr. O'Connor.

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Mr. Oliphant. Did you hear him threaten him?

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Mr. Atkisson. Had Merritt ever asked to be relieved of

his undercover duties with the Bureau?

Mr. O'Connor. No.

Mr. Atkisson. Was the straw that broke the camel's back,

so to speak, information concerning Jack Davis?

MI. O'Connor.

Yes.

Mr. Atkisson. Did it have to do with his whereabouts on

a particular day?

Mr. O'Connor. It had to do with a little more than that.

That was part of it.

Mr. Oliphant: Tell us what it was.

MI. O'Connor.

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to have been a confidential conversation between Jack Davis and

some other agents. I don't really recall what the --

Mr. Atkisson. I don't think you have to do that. We

don't need to know that, but if Mr. Merritt made representa-

tions to you concerning Jack Davis about his whereabouts on a

particular day?

Mr. O'Connor. Let me put it this way: We developed in-

formation that not only was there a problem or discrepancy

concerning Davis' whereabouts on this particular weekend, but

also that much of the information that he had been furnishing

us could not have been correct, you know, over a period of

time.

Mr. Oliphant. You also found things which rebutted infor-

mation which he had given you on prior occasions?

Mr. O'Connor. Very strongly and which really, as far as

was concerned, had caused us to continue an investigative

interest in an area that we -- what had seemed very credible

to us when it came

from Merritt all of a sudden became nothing

but a lot of miscellaneous information.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you write a report which stated what

information you had got from Merritt that you now felt was

compromised and why you felt it was compromised?

Mr. O'Connor. I did write a memo that would have closed

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Mr. O'Connor. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. You had been incorporating that into

reports; is that true?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. So there came a time, then, when you had

reason to believe that some of that information that you had

incorporated in those reports was erroneous; is that correct?

Mr. O'Connor. Right.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever write a report specifically

laying out what information now in FBI reports that you had

written or that Tucker had written that you now felt was

erroneous?

MI. O'Connor. Well, the information -- no, I never did

write a report like that.

Mr. Oliphant. Did Tucker?

Mr. O'Connor. No, not that I know of.

Mr. Oliphant. So was that information ever rebutted

in the reports then?

MI. O'Connor. It would have been rebutted; yes.

Mr. Oliphant.

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Ir. Oliphant. You don't

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Mr. O'Connor.

It had to do with Davis, the information

that we knew was incorrect, and we knew where this information

had come from and with, respect to the investigation concerning

Davis there was something in there that I would have considered

to have rebutted or to have contradicted the information that

Merritt had previously furnished concerning Davis, but I never

did; no -- in answer to your question, I never wrote anything

up. It was understood that this information concerning Davis

was -- much of it or some portion of it --

MI. Oliphant. Would that be readily understandable by

Ieading the files?

Mr. O'Connor.

Yes; some portion of it was incorrect.

Mr. Oliphant. How could someone understand that without

revealing. what it was?

Mr. O'Connor. In other words, if they read something --

Mr. Oliphant. Let's say an objective person read this ten

years from now without the benefit of being able to speak with

you or with whoever the other agents were who spoke with davis

and looked, would they see two conflicting reports? Would

they see series of information that came, let's say, from

Merritt and another series of information that came from Davis,

or someone else?

MI. O'Connor. It would all be - you know, if they read

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as we could determine.

We didn't go back and ask Merritt how

much of the information that you furnished was unreliable

because, for one thing, as I pointed out, when we went up and

talked to him that day, he protested that nothing he had given

us was false.

there was no way we could do that, so what we were doing

what we had was the information we had developed which would

have shown up chronologically, I guess, in the investigative

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you would have come to a point, as far as I am concerned,

where you would have seen, you know, that we were able to

determine that at least some of the information concerning Davis

was incorrect. I am saying as far as some of the other informat

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Mr. Oliphant. But you never memorialized that surmisal;

is that correct?

MI. O'Connor. I didn't, but I think it probably would

have been done.

Mr. Oliphant. Who would have done it?

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bombing, 1971.

The guy who was investigating the Capitol

I believe he did. I don't know whether he did

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Thank you very much, Mr. O'Connor.

(Discussion off the recora.)

We appreciate it.

Mr. O!Connor. I would like to put one further thing on.

the record.

Basically,

with respect to these allegations which first

started, I think, in the Summer of 1973, even at that time

those allegations really centered around IPS. Since then they

have gone beyond that. Even when those first allegations were

made, I didn't recall specifically the details of some of the

things that we were talking about, and I don't think there was

-any way we could have. About the only way we could have would

have been to look in files or try to rely on memory as best we

could. And still today, if we are talking about some of these

other areas concerning which the man has made allegations, we

are dealing with even a longer period of time, and some of

them I know - I know we didn't have any interest in the

organization he is talking about, but if we did have an inter-

est in the organization, you know, I am trying to be completely

candid with you with respect to what we were interested in and

what we are trying to do so that we just don't say we weren't

interested in people at all, but, you know, the specifics of

incidents or the specifics of the information he was furnishing

I don't remember.

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MI.. Oliphant.

Mr. O'Connor,

I would like to get back to

1971 in the fall, November.

Mr. O'Connor. Right.

Mr. Oliphant.

You are still under oath, of course.

Mr. O'Connor. I know.

Mr. Oliphant. Some documents or some papers, whatever

you want to call it, were delivered to Agent Tucker, I under-

stand, from Robert Merritt allegedly from the IPS; is that

correct?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. There were how many deliveries?

Mr. O'Connor. Only one that I know of. Well, you mean

anything that would have been other than just leaflets or

something like that?

Mr. Oliphant. Yes.

Mr. O'Connor. Just that one time.

Mr. Oliphant. How did that material come to you?

Mr. O'Connor.

come to me personally, or us?

MI. Oliphant. Come to you personally.

Mr. O'Connor. When I got back in the office, whenever it

was that I returned, it was there.

Mr. Oliphant:

What was it in?

Mr. O'Connor. A manila envelope.

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Mr. O'Connor. I couldn't tell you. Maybe the thing might.

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Mr. O'Connor. Well, we looked at some of them and deter-

mined that there were some things in there that were obviously

nondescript trash and took the speech and copied it, or I

copied it, and then we took that and I don't know whether Bill

went with mr or not, but I met Merritt and gave it back to him

and told him to put it back in there.

Mr. Oliphant. Where?

Mr. O'Connor. In the trash, if that is where it belonged,

at IPS.

I frankly didn't like that situation ät all.

Mr. Oliphant. Why?

Mr. O'Connor. Because, first of all, Merritt had been

told not to take anything he shouldn't have had. We didn't

want him to for three reasons, really: Number one, because

if he took anything and it came to the attention of anybody,

he was no good as an informant anymore. We didn't want him to

do anything illegal. I personally didn't want him doing any-

thing illegal. The Bureau wouldn't have wanted him to, and I

didn't. He had bèen told before, and I reminded him of that

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Mr. Oliphant.

Why didn't you want anything like that

again?

Mr. O'Connor. Because I didn't think it was the type of

thing we should have.

Mr. Oliphant. Why?

MI. O'Connor. Primarily because he shouldn't have had

things that really weren't intended for him or for the public.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you think they came from the trash?

Mr. O'Connor. I took his word for it, as I recall.

MI. Oliphant. Did you write a report on this?

Mr. O'Connor. I wrote the - you mean describing the

way this happened?

Mr. Oliphant. Did you write a report saying you had re-

ceived material from him?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you say he said they came from the

trash?

Mr. O'Connor. Not at that time; no.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you say how you got them?

MI. O'ConnoI. No.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you say that you réturned them?

Mr. O'Connor.

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Mr. O'Connor. In that case I didn't think that we -- he

says it is trash; I will take his word for it. But if it is

trash and it belongs up there, then it should be back up there

in the trash can.

Mr. Oliphant. Have you ever returned anything to the

trash since? In other words, have you, ever received anything

Mr. O'Connor. I have never received anything like that

again.

MI. Oliptant. Do you know if getting information in any

kind of investigation from the trash, do you know if that is

a regular investigative technique employed by the FBI?

MI. O'Connor. I think it probably has been in the past.

But let me say that Merritt was never told to take anything

from the trash.

Mr. Oliphant. All right.. Have you ever heard of anybody

returning things to the trash?

Mr. O'Connor. No, except in that instance, except that it

bothered me to have that stuff in the first place.

Mr. Oliphant. You have received other documents,

haven't you, from people - without giving the details -- but

haven't your informants given you little memorandas and things

like that that they have taken from various places?

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Mr. Oliphant. You have heard of people within thr Bureau

receiving internal documents fron various organizations,

haven*t you, in the subversive squads?.

MI. O'Connor. I guess so.

MI. Oliphant. Have you ever heard of them being returned

afterwards?

MI. O'Connor. I don't know whether I have. I don't know

what kind of document we are talking about. Actually that is

speculation.

MI. Oliphant. Let's say memorandas?

Why weren't all the documents that were in this package

incorporated into the record - well, I say into the recora,

why weren't they memorialized and incorporated in the files of

the Federal Bureau of Investigation?

MI. O'Connor. Because there really wasn't anything that

was in there that would have been of any interest. For some

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All right.

Mr. Oliphant.

Do you recognize that?

Mr. O'Connor.

I do.

Mr. Oliphant. Look at the second page.

MI. O'Connor.. Right.

Mr. Oliphant. Did that come from this alleged trash

collection?

Mr. O'Connor. No; it was separate and we felt -- this

was someching that was questionable. We felt the guy did

have the right to have it because he was up there all the time

and the thing was addressed to everyone, and I think there was

another one addressed to all, and it was nothing that was a

personal type memorandum. It appeared. to us to be something

that was intended for anybody who was up there.

Mr. Oliphant. Why did you put that into the files? why

did you bother to incorporate that into the records at the FBI?

Mr. O'Connor. Basically because it was intelligence-type

information regarding IPS.

Mr. Oliphant. Are you stating that the other material

that was with this alleged trash collection was of even less

value than that?

Mr. O'Connor. It would have had to have been except for

the fact that this wasn't in the trash.

Mr. Oliphant. Did the fact that it was in the trash have

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that we really didn't want... We didn't want it. And, I don't

know, perhaps - whether he did something illegal in taking

that thing or not, I seally didn't know. Whether taking it

from the trash was illegal or not, in my mind I wasn't sure.

Because of that, I did copy that one speech, but appar-

ently there was nothing else in the thing that would have been

worth copying, or it would have been copied.

Mr. Oliphant. You made no real report of this, did you,

that he had come to you with a package of material that he

alleged had come from the trash?

MI. O'Connor. No; it isn't set forth that way, because wel

normally wouldn't. It is my understanding we wouldn't set forth

the fact that it came from a specific spot.

Mr. Oliphant. I am reading from a report by Tucker, and

it is on 11/29/71, and says, "On 11/26/71, WF-4015-PCI --"

who I take it was Merritt; is that correct?

Mr. O'Connor.

Right.

Mr. Oliphant. "- telephonically advised Special Agent

Tucker and advised that he had viewed certain documents at the

Institute for Policy Studies", and then it lists three docu-

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Let me show you a brief synopsis.

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reports. I mean you don't' do it as you see fit each time.

There is a form you follow, isn't there?

Mr. O'Connor. Usually. It could have been written up in

this form or on one of these --

Mr. Oliphant. You see the substance of this information

in the report, by Tucker?

Mr. O'Connor. Right.

Mr. Oliphant. Was the information that was in the trash

envelope, was it even of less value than that?

Mr. O'Connor. I suppose it was because the only thing tha-

we copied, or I copied, was that speech.

Mr. Oliphant. Were you entirely convinced that that came

from the trash?

Mr. O'Connor. I am going to have to - this is based on

my recollection. One hundred percent I don't think so; no. I

didn't know. As I recall, he said it came from the trash,

and, as I told you before, even when this issue first came up,

I had a heck of a lot of trouble remembering what the heck had

happened at that time.

Mr. Oliphant. But as you look back now, there was some

doubt in your mind at the time that it had actually come from

the trash, wasn't there?

MI. O'Connor..

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Mr. Oliphant.

But you were uncomfortable with it?

Mr. O'Connor. I wasn't very comfortable with it even if

it came from the trash. I thought if it came from the trash,

he probably could have obtained it legally; still I dian't

like the idea the man had

something -- I didn't like the

idea of rummaging around in the trash, even.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you and Agent Tucker discuss this

transaction?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes.

MI. Oliphant. What did you say to each other? what was

the substance of your discussion?

Mr. O'Connor. Basically he told me about these things

because if I am --

Mr. Oliphant. Excuse me. Did you discuss the trash

collection venture?

MI. O'Connor. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. And what did you decide between the two

of you? What did you say?

Mr. O'Connor. In terms of whether. it had actually come

from the trash?

Mi. Oliphant. Did you discuss whether or not to make a

report of it?

MI. O'Connor: No. .

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Mr. Oliphant. Was it normal for Tucker to make a report

there that the guy had advised him of those three items?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Then why wouldn't it have been normal for

you to make a report of the information you received?

Mr. O'Connor. Well, the report would simply have been,

I guess - I think I wrote something up on that speech that we

copied, and I guess that would have been the report if there

is a report, based on what is in the files and what I can recall

Mx. Oliphant. Do you have further questions?

Mr. Atkisson. Just one not on this subject.

MI. O'Connor, am I right in assuming that you were more

or less in charge of Merritt; you were the primary contact man

with Merritt?

Mr. O'Connor. Yes.

Mr. Atkisson. Would any other special agent have had con-

tact with Merritt without your knowledge?

Mx. O'Connor. Not that I know of.

Mr. Atkisson. Well, not that you know of, but would it

have been incorrect for some other special agent of the Bureau

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Mr. O'Connor. Yes; he probably would have told me.

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Let me ask you this: ' I believe your contact

with Merritt ran from November of 1971 to May of 1972?

MI. O'Connor. Or early June; yes.

Mr. Atkisson. He was terminated, then, in May of 1972?

Mr. O'Connor.

Yes, or right at the beginning of June.

MI. Atkisson. Mr. Feuer was assigned to the IPS investi-

gation in July of 1972?

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Mr. O'Connor. Right.

MI. Atkisson. So what you are saying is that any contact

Mr. Feuer had with MI. Merritt would have been prior to his

assignment to the IPS investigation? •

Mr. O'Connor. Yes; as I recall, the one time that I can

recall that Bob Feuer talked to Merritt, he was with us --

of with myself, I don't know whether Bill was along - and it

was during the time - sometime between -- it might have had

something to do with the Jack Davis or Capitol bombing investi-

gation.

Mr. Oliphant.

Just one last thing on these things. Did

Tucker tell you how he got the documents, or whatever you want

to call it, the trash collection?

MI. O'Connor. I know that he met Merritt some place - I

guess it was Lafayette Park, or some place like that, as I

recall, and he got them from him there.

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Mr. O'Connor.

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Mr. Oliphant. Let me ask you this:

When the Jack

Anderson column came out and other newspaper accounts of this,

after this happened, were you contacted. by the inspector's

office of the FBI?

Mr. O'Connor. Starting with about June, 1973, we have

been talking to people. We have talked to Bureau investigators,

and we have talked to the Metropolitan Police Department.

Mr. Oliphant. Did the Bureau investigators ask you why

you returned the material?

Mr. O'Connor. I can't recall. That was something that I

did on my own. You know, whether somebody else would have done

that or not, I don't know. We hadn't known Merritt for very

long at that time, and I really wasn't sure of what was going

on there.

Mr. Oliphant. Thank you, Mr. O'Connor.

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The Attorney General

Director, FBI

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ON INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (HSO

Enclosed herewith are two Xerox copies of a transcript

of an interview of Special Agent (SA) William I•

Tucker by Staff

Members of the HSC on Novetber S, 1975.

SA Tucker has reviewed this transcript and has made

minor corrections which have been penciled in.

HSC Staff Member James Oliphant on November 11, 1975,

advised

SA Paul V.

Daly of this Buseau that the notation

"Executive Session" appearing on the cover of the transcript

should be copssed through.

He indicated, however, that the

results of the testimony, as contained in the transcript,

should not be utilized in any Litigation proceedings, the

SubJeCt matter of which was mentioned in the transcript,

The additional Xerox copy of this interview is for

forwarding to Mr. James A. Wilderotter, Associate Counsel to

the President.

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EXECUTIVE SESSION

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Mx. BOOS. Do you swear the statements you are about to

make to the House Select Committee on Intelligence are the

truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Mr. Tucker. I do.

Mr. Oliphant. Would you state your name for the record,

please, Mr. Tucker?

Mr. Tucker. My full name is William Timothy Tucker.

Mr. Oliphant. Mi. Tucker, we are not a prosecutive body,

but, for the record, I am going to inform you of your rights.

You are represented by counsel?

Mr. Tucker.

That is correct.

Mr. Oliphant. You don't have to answer any questions.

Any time you want to stop, you are entitled, of course, to do

that. Any of these questions that you answer can be used

against you. Do you understand that?

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I am well aware of my rights.

'Mx. Oliphant. I would think you would be.

Mr. Atkisson. You understand in addition you have the

right to ask us to clarify any question you don't understand.

We don't want you to guess or speculate about any subject we

may bring up here. If you want a question repeated or clari-

fied, ask us to do so. We are asking for your testimony from

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Mr. Tucker. I will.

Mr. Oliphant. Agent Tucker, would you give us a brief

resume of your career with the Bureau?

TESTIMONY OF WILLIAM TIMOTHY TUCKER, SPECIAL AGENT.

FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

Mr. Tucker. I entered on duty with the FBI on March 17,

1969. After a four-month training period, I was assigned to

the Jacksonville Division, which covers the Northern District

of Florida.

I was subsequently appointed within the division to work

in the Fort Walton Beach, Florida, resident agency, and I

stayed there until roughly between August 19, 1969, and

October 28, 1970, and approximately on the Ist of November,

1970, I reported to the Washington Field Office of the FBI.

I have been at the Washington Field Office for almost five

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Mx. Oliphunt. Yes, I would.

Mr. Tucker. Initially, I worked on background investiga-

tions for a period of approximately five months. In March of

1971, I would say, I was assigned to work on the May buy,

covering the May Day demonstrations. Subsequently, I was re-

assigned to the squad which handled - previously I had been

temporarily assigned there -- I was permanently assigned to the

squad handling domestic intelligence and remained there until

August, 1974, and then transferred to work in organized

crime special, and in March of this year, I was reassigned

again, and now I am working violations of the Federal Escape

and Rescue Statutes and bank robbery.

Mx. Oliphant. Prior to your stint with the domestic

intelligence group, had you ever had any prior contact

officially with the new left or with the radical movement?

Mr. Tucker. Would you clarify that?

Mr. Oliphant. As an FBI agent, had you ever been

assigned to investigate radical movements, subversive move-

ments?

Mr. Tucker. Prior to coming to Washington?

Mr. Oliphant. Prior to coming to Washington, D. C.

Mr. Tucker. No, I had not.

Mr. Oliphant. What specific squads were you working on

when you worked on the domestic intelligence assignments?

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Seven out of nine squads in the Washington

Field Office, or seven out of nine security squads?

Mr. Tucker. Seven out of nine security squads and C-squads

for criminal and "A" for applicants.

MI. Oliphant. What was S-7 assigned to do?

Mr. Tucker. Primarily we were assigned to investigate

those persons and/or groups who posed — we had

legalistic

terms, and I am trying to come up with that - who could

possibly be involved in those acts which would consist in

espionage, sedition, sabotage, of disruption in the normal

functions of the United States Government.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you have a number of targets you were

looking at?

Mc. Tucker. When I was assigned to the S-y squad, my

work, however -- we had a two-fold responsibility on the squad.

We were also assigned certain criminal violations. The work

I did was ninety-nine percent criminal. The investigations I

was conducting were unlawful flight to avoid prosecution inves

tigations and anti-riot law investigations.

What we did was we broke the squad into a sub-squad.

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but to locate the members of the Weathermen who were Federal

fugitives.

lies Oliphant.

Were there intelligence targets that

were designated groups and individuals who were considered

subversive to go

along with the legalistic definition you

were groping for?

Mr. Tucker. Before I go into that, when I was sent up

here, I had to consult with the Legal Division, and I was

given the agreement which we signed with the FBI regarding

confidentiality, and I was told that agreement was only waived

vis-a-vis my dealings with Earl Robert Merritt, and I was not

to discuss anything which involved one, ongoing investigations;

two, anything which would endanger an FBI source; of, three,

any information which would jeopardize third-party sources.

Mr. Oliphant. Mr. Tucker, all we are asking for now is

we are trying to get the Merritt investigation into proper

perspective. We are not asking for something which would

reveal a source of reveal an ongoing investigation, or put

anyone in jeopardy.

What we are asking for is, were there targets?

You don't

have to tell us what they were.

were there targets, intelli-

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Were there cases opened on individuals

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Mr. Tucker. May I ask Mr. Flannagan if he thinks that

would be an appropriate question for me to address myself to?

1'=. Flannagan. Off the record, please.

(Discussion off the recora.)

Mx. Tucker. There were cases opened on varicus groups

and individuals.

Mr. Oliphant. Was one of these groups the IPS?

Mr. Tucker. Yes.. By IPS, you mean the Institute for

Policy Studies?

Mr. Oliphant. That is correct.

Now, who designated the IPS as a target, or, if you know,

how was the investigation opened on that?

Mr. Tucker. My involvement with the Institute of Policy

Studies was not -- I was not involved in investigating the

Institute of Policy Studies.

Mr. Oliphant. Were you interested in certain individuals

who were in the Institute for Policy Studies?

Mr. Tucker. No, I wasn't. In the sense that I was not

tasked with the case assignment if there were cases on the

individuals. I was not tasked with that responsibility of

investigating the institution or any case on individuals.

Mr. Oliphant. What was your interest with the IPS, then?

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Mr. Oliphant.

Would you tell us about your relationship

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MI. Tucker. I was the alternate agent on a case, an

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dealing.

Mr. O'Connor was the case agent.

Mr. Oliphant.

Did he become an informant for the Bureau?

Mr. Tucker. Yes, he did.

Mr. Öliphant. Did you participate in qualifying him as an

informant?

Mr. Tucker.

NO.

Mr. Oliphant. There is a process, isn't there, that a

person goes through before they can be qualified as an informant

for the Bureau?

MI. Tucker. Again, I don't think I can go into our

internal policies --

Mr. Oliphant. Yes or no; there is a policy, I mean

Mr. Tucker. There is a set policy; yes.

Mr. Oliphant. All right.

Mr. Tucker. Again, I am not trying to be difficult.

MI. Oliphant. I understand, Mr. Tucker, and you have

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I am not trying to make you give away the crown

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Mr. Tucker.

Okay.

Mr. Oliphant. Is one of the bases of the investigation,

for want of a better word, the process to make sure that the

informant is reliable? That would be one of the things you

would be looking for; is that correct?

Mr. Tucker. Of course.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you know that he had been an informant

for the Metropolitan Police Department?

Mr. Tucker.

Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you check with the Metropolitan Police

Department to find out if he had been reliable?

Mr. Tucker. I did not check.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you know if anyone checked?

•Mr. Tucker. No, I do not know that.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you know why not?

Mr. Tucker. No, I don't know why not, but I would like

to comment on that.

Mx. Oliphant. Certainly.

Mr. Tucker. I knew the individual who operated him at

the Metropolitan Police Department and informally discussed the

fact that he had been released by him and now we were operating

him, so it wasn't that we weren't aware of why he left them

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ever ask if he had been reliable?

Mr. Tucker. I don't think the specific question of

reliability was raised.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever ask what sort of activities he

had been performing for the Metropolitan Police Department?

Mr. Tucker. This is an area you don't get into.

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you are talking to another agent regarding dealing with a

source, you would not broach those kinds of subjects, because

those are sacrosanct.

Mr. Oliphant. So it is safe to say you were not apprised

of what kind of activity he had been doing with the Metropoli-

tan Police Department?

Mr. Tucker. From the Metropolitan Police Department. .

MI. Oliphant. Did you receive information from any other

source as to what sort of activity he had been doing?

Mr. Tucker. From Merritt, himself.

Mr. Oliphant. What did Meritt tell you he had been doing

with the Metropolitan Police Department?

Mr. Tucker. Again, I was the alternate agent, and my

information will not be as complete as Mr. O'Connor's, because

he was primarily responsible, although we worked as partners,

and would often, in face-to-face dealings with Merritt, I

would say almost ninety-nine percent of the time, we were there

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back to your question, I would say we knew that he had dealt

with the Institute for Policy Studies prior to coming with us

and had done some work on the gathering of intelligenc: on

the activities of those people who had come to washington to

participate in the May Day demonstrations.

Mr. Oliphant. Did he ever tell you that he had performed

any breakins for the Metropolitan Police Department?

Mr. Tuckér. • No, he did not.

Mr. Oliphant. Did he ever tell you he had taken mate~

rials from various organizations for the Metropolitan Police

Department?

Mr. Tucker. No, he did not.

Mr. Oliphant. Did anyone ever tell you either of those

two facts?

Mr. Tucker. No one ever told me that.

Mr. Atkisson. How about the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,

and Firearms?

Mr. Tucker. No one, to include anyone.

Mr. Atkisson. Were you aware of any connection between

Earl Robert Merritt, Jx., and ATF?

• Mr. Tucker. Yes, the details of which I cannot recall

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Mr. Tucker.

I dealt with Merritt, I would say, between

the beginning of November, 1971, until the end of May, 1972.

Mr. Oliphant. Did there come a time in November, 1971,

Merritt delivered to you any material that he had acquired

from the IPS?

Mr. Tucker. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Would you describe each one of these incidents,

to the best of your recollection?

Mr. Tucker. There is only one incident. On approxi-

mately the 26th of Novembes, I believe that was a Wednesday ever

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he called, and he said

Mr. Oliphant. Where were you?

MI. Tucker. He called our office, who called me to let me

know he had called, and he left a number. So I called him

back, and he said he had obtained some materials from the trash

at IPS. This was, I believe, the Wednesday before Thanksgiving,

and that Friday I met with him in Lafayette Park, and he turned

over those items to me consisting of a manila envelope with

papers in it. It appeared to me that it did come from the

trash.

Mr. Oliphant. Why do you say that?

Mr. Tucker. There were crumpled message slips, and the

items appeared soiled, as I recollect. I believed it had

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Mr. Tucker. No.

Mr. Oliphant. Any letter to Professor Waskow from

Colgate University?

Mx. Tucker. No. Again, there was no inventory made of

these items.

Mr. Oliphant. When he called you on the phone, did you

ask him to look at any of the postmarks on the letters?

Mr. Tucker. There was no discussion of letters.

Mr. Oliphant. There was no discussion at all regarding

the substance of the letters; is that correct? Or the substance

of the materials he had taken?

Mr. Tucker. There may have been, but I cannot recall the

substance of it. I do recall he has made certain allegations

that I ordered him to open mail he had found. I dia not do

that. There was no discussion of any mail in those materials.

I assume that these were items he found in the trash, and

again there was no discussion of that.

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your voice for comparison with a tape, if that were asked of

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Mr. Tucker. No, not particularly.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever ask him to provide you with

any information regarding homosexual or homosexualities, or

alleged homosexuality of any Inerican citizens?

Mr. Tucker..

No.

Mr. Oliphant. Did he ever volunteer this material to you,

this sort of information?

Mr. Tucker.

On one occasion he did.

Mr. Oliphant. On only one occasion, or one individual?

Mr. Tucker.

One glaring occasion he mentioned the fact

that some prominent people he knew were being extorted because

of homosexuality.

Mr. Oliphant. What action, if any, did you take regard-

ing this?

Mr. Tucker.

Inasmuch as this was totally unfounded

rumor, he could not in any way substantiate or corroborate the

information, we took no action.

MI. Oliphant. Are you familiar with the Community Book

Store?

Mr. Tucker. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. We are talking about the Community Book

Store at 2028 P Street. What did you know about the Community

Book Store at that time? •

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of a better word, for those people who were involved in the

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Mr. Oliphant. Did you have a key to the Community Book

Store?

Mx. Tucker.

No, I didn't.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you come in possession of a key to the

book store?

Mr. Tucker. No.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever ask Mr. Merritt to perform a

break-in for you there at the Community Book Store?

Mr. Tucker. No, I didn't.

MI, Oliphant. Did you ever ask him to take any materials

whatever from the Community Book Store?

Mr. Tucker. No, I didn't.

MI. Oliphant. Did he ever bring you any materials from

the Community Book Store?

Mr. Tucker. Not to my knowledge.

Mt. Oliphant. Did he ever bring you any materials from the

Red House Collective?

Mr. Tucker. He didn't deliver anything to me from the

Red House Collective. I knew he had been in there.

Mx. Oliphant. Did he ever bring you anything from the

Union of American Hebrew Congregations?

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Mr. Tucker.

Yes.

Mr. Oliphant.

How did you know that?

Mr. Tucker. He admitted that to Mr. O'Connor.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you subsequently investigate to find

out if this was true or not; search the record?

Mr. Tucker. O'Connor did.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you have anything to do with that at

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Mr. Oliphant. Do you know if he was told he was not

going to be prosecuted on this?

Mr. Tucker.

That was, I believe - my knowledge of this

is that this was a decision made by the local United States

Attorney or the local state's attorney, whichever the case

may be.

Mr. Oliphant.

Was Merritt informed of this?

Mr. Tucker.

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• informed him of it.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you have any - without their names --

did you ever have any other sources or informants or people

who gave you information at the same time within the homo-

sexual community, other people, other than Merritt?

Mr. Tucker. Again, I would like to talk to counsel.

Mr. Oliphant. Go ahead.

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Mr. Tucker. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever

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information for you on Merritt?

Mr. Tucker. No.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever ask them anything about

Merritt?

Mr. Tucker. There was one individual who I would also

talk to who was an informant of mine, and I may have on one

occasion or two occasions, without indicating to this individual

my relationship with Merritt, ask him, "What is his story?"

and never went into any detailed inguiry regarding this

individual's knowledge of Merritt. In fact, he tolû me that

he basically knew that Merritt lived in the area.

Mx. Oliphant.

During the time when you were working with

Merritt, how were you dressed? How did you come to work?

Mr. Tucker. I was dressed very casually, jeans, blue work

shirt, had long, shoulder-length hair, and full beard.

Mr. Oliphant. Who gave you permission for this?

Mr. Tucker. The Special Agent in charge.

Mr. Oliphant. Were you requested to dress like this?

Mr. Tucker. No formal request was made.

Mr. Oliphant. Were you undercover at all?

Mr. Tucker.

No. I went into. the office every day. I

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the IPS to Merritt? How did you describe him to Merritt?

Mr. Tucker. I can recall no - you mean physically

described him?

M.. Oliphant. No, politically.

Mr. Tucker., I don't know how I described him to Merritt,

but I could describe him for you.

Mr. Oliphant. Okay.

Mr. Tucker.

He was affiliated with the Institute for.

Policy Studies and often was a proponent of left-wing causes

here in the District, local left-wing causes.

Mr. Oliphant. Was he a subject of investigation of the

Federal Bureau of Investigation?

Mr. Tucker. I cannot discuss that.

Mr. Oliphant. Well, I think inasmuch -- off the record.

(Discussion off the recora.)

Mr. Oliphant. Was IPS the subject of an FBI investiga-

tion?

Mr. Tucker. We are in the same problem.

Mr. Atkisson. Counsel, we just went through this whole

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I think we may be getting, you know, where are we going to

draw the line?

Mr. Oliphant.

Was Di. Waskow working at IPS?

Mr. Tucker. I believe so; yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Did Merritt have contact with Waskow?

Mr. Tucker.

Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Did he supply information on Waskow?

Mr. Tucker.

Yes.

MI. Oliphant. What sort of information did he supply on

Waskow?

Mr. Tucker. I cannot recall any specifics:

Mr. Oliphani. Did it have to do with fugitives?

Mi. Tucker.

He never provided us any information regarding

the Weathermen.

Mx. Oliphant. Did he provide information regarding other

fugitives?

Mr. Tucker. Did Merritt provide?

Mr. Oliphant. Yes.

Mr. Tucker. In one instance a bond default subject

Randy Coleman, he provided us information regarding him.

Mr. Oliphant. Did there come a time when Merritt was

terminated?

Mr. Tucker. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Why was he terminated?

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MI. Tucker. He gave us information that he had contacted

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Mr. Tucker. We told. Merritt that he had lied to us and

that we were severing our relationship with him.

Mr. Oliphant. We will get back to that in a minute, but

I would like to ask you what you did with the materials that

were given to you allegedly from the trash in mid-November of

1971.

Mr. Tucker. I went back to the office on Friday, put them

in my desk, showed them to O'Connor, and we gave them back to

Merritt.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you incorporate them in any FBI

reports?

Mr. Tucker. No.

Mr. Oliphant. Why not?

Mr. Tucker. I didn't.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you know if they were incorporated in any

FBI reports?

Mr. Tucker. May I go off the record here?

Mr. Oliphant. I don't think you should.

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which is received and written by the case agent. In this

case it would have been the case agent on the IPS case. I

do not know if the case agent ever compiled anything from what

he had given me and put it in the report.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you show this material to the case

agent?

Mr. Tucker. No, I did not.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you know if O'Connor showed it to the

case agent?

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Mir. Oliphant. Did you copy any of the material and

memorialize it in writing in any way, shape, or form?

Mr. Tucker. I did not, but Mr. O'Connor, I understand,

did regarding a speech which was given by a Mr. Wolfson at

the Peoples Grand Jury.

Mr. Oliphant. This speech was found in the garbage, the

Wolfson speech?

Mr. Tucker.

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Mr. Oliphant. Why was that put in the report, or why was

that memorialized and put in the files?

Mr. Tucker. I do not know.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you know of anything else?

Mr. Tucker. No, I do not.

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were interested in IPS and in having Mezritt there was that

basically you were looking for fugitives; is that correct?

Mr. Tucker. This is correct.

Mr.. Oliphant. Let me show you this memorandum.

Mr. Tucker.

All right. I have seen this before.

Mr. Oliphant. Okay. Just for the record, I have shown

Agent Tucker a memorandum of two pages. The first page is

an FBI report giving a date of contact 11/26/71. The second

page is a memorandum dealing with IPS agenda.

What, if anything, did this have to do with fugitives?

Mr. Tucker. What did that have to do with fugitives?

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Why did you put it in the files?

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Mr. Tucker. I didn't put it in the files.

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about IPS. There was a case on IPS.

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case agent might be

interested in that kind of information.

Flanagan

Who was the case agent, incidentally?

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Mr. Oliphant. Do you know what the subject matter

of the investigation was? You don't-have to go into detail.

Was the subject matter subversion?

Mr. Tucker. Yes.

Mr.. Oliphant. I'm showing Mr. Tucker a memorandum dated

November 29, 1971.

Mr. Tucker. That is correct.

Mr. Oliphant. Now, could you tell us what, if anything,

that memorandum has to do with subversion or with fugitives?

Mr. Tucker. It has nothing to do with subversion or

fugitives.

Mr. Oliphant. Why was that incorporated into the files?

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this page is deleted in its entirety. Now without going

into details of what was in that page, do you recall the

content of that page?

Mr. Tucker. I could not hazard a guess at this point.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you recall or does it appear likely

to you that this might have been a document that vas

taken from IPS or do you feel it was something, some subjectivel

writing that you made?

Mr. White. Could we go off the record on this?

Mr. Oliphant. Sure.

(Discussion off the recora.)

Mr. Oliphant. All right.

The question is, was the

second page which is deleted in its entirety, a document

of some sort taken

from the Institute of Policy Studies,

to the best of your recollection?

Mr. Tucker. It would not have been.

Mr. Oliphant. Is it fair to say, then, that this page

would have been some report that you made on the basis of

some sort of independent investigation?

Mr. Tucker. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Would it be fair to say that this probably

had to do with the Institute of Policy Studies?

Mr. Tucker. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Would you describe now in detail what happened

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when Earl Robert

Merritt was terminated, as best as you

remember it, the day of his termination?

Mr. Tucker. I don't recall the exact date. I do

recall we picked him up and drove him to a secluded spot

in Rock Creek Park. It was not a secluded spot, I cannot

remember the exact street. It is where there is an old mill

and there is a dam there. It is not Fletcher's, the name

of the mill. That escapes me now. We confronted him with the

information that we believed that he was lying us.

He denied it. Admittedly there were heated words

between us. He was never physically abused or things like

that. I was upset at the time.

I was rather firm with

• Merritt but I don't believe abusive. .

Mr. Oliphant. How upset were you?

Mr. Tucker. That would be hard to describe.

Mr. Oliphant. Well, describe your actions and describe

what you said.

Mr. Tucker. I think the strongest thing I did was pound

on the picnic table and call him a liar.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you threaten him in any way,

shape, of form?

Mr. Tucker. Absolutely not.

Mr. Oliphant. When you say you were firm, what were

you firm about?

Mr. Tucker. he fact that he attempted to tell us he

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we were firm with him in letting him

know that we knew that he had lied to us and that he was

trying to cover this up with an additional lie.

Mr. Oliphant. Did it then become apparent to you that

maybe some of the other information he had given to you was

also not true?

Mr. Tucker. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever make a report in a sense,

in essence, corxecting the previous erroneous information

that had been incorporated in the FBI files?

Mr. Tucker. I had made no such report. I had no informa-

tion as to which information he had given me was erroneous.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you ever maké a report or notation or

any sort of memorialized writing that it now appeared

that some of the information that had been given in the

past by this informant --

Mr. Tucker. I did not. Mr. O'Connor did.

Mr. Oliphant. What did he say, to the best of your

recollection?

Mx. Tucker. Io the best of my recollection it was

that we have received information, I am trying to get the

exact words as best I can -- that Merritt -- I guess "unreliable"

was the word we used, was "unreliable."

Mr. Oliphant. Did you and O'Connor in a sense

make this retroactive? I am sure you said he was unreliable

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is that correct?

Mr. Tucker. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you then say, these would not be

your exact words, but this may now put in jeopardy or ast

aspersions on some of the prior information which he has

given to us? Did you make any notation to that effect?

Mr. Tucker. I did not.

. Mr. Oliphant. Do you know if Agent O'Connor did?

Mr. Tucker. As far as I know he did not. Normally what

would be done in a case like this would be that in the

future communications dealing with him, this would be

pointed out, "He has been shown to be unreliable in the past."

Mr. Oliphant. How many reports, roughly, did you

write based on information which he had given you over the

time that you were handling.

Mr. Tucker. I did not handle it. Mr. O'Connor wrote

about 95 percent of the reports.

Mc. Oliphant. How many of those reports were written,

roughly?

Mx. Tucker. All reports were written.

Mr. Oliphant. How many, roughly?"

Mc. Tucker. Again, when you are using the word

"report" generically, contacts would be our in-house term.

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somewhere between 100 and 200--maybe not that

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maybe 100. That is a ballpark figure.

Mr. Oliphant. On how many individuals, again a ballpark

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Mr. Tucker.

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Mr. Oliphant. How much money did you pay him or

did the Bureau pay him over the time that he was working

with the Bureau?

Mr. Tucker. I never have conducted an audit.

I think it may have been somewhere around fifteen to seventeen

hundred dollars, in that figure.

Mr. Oliphant. Would that include both payments and

expenses or was there any differentiation made?

Mr. Tucker. There is a differentiation. I think that

would be a cumulative amount.

Mr. Oliphant. What sort of expenses would he have?

What would be his expenses?

Mr. Tucker. Expenses would be actual, anything he

would have to pay out of his pocket.

Mr. Oliphant. Was he paid on a regular basis?

Mr. Tucker. No. He was paid on a c.o.d. basis.

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an informant you have to justify this in writing

internally in the Bureau?

Mx. Tucker. That is affirmative.

Mr. Oliphant. Now when you justified this, did you

have to qualify

Merritt as a reliable informant?

Mr. Tucker. I don't think, I don't know if I wrote

any of those requests for payments. I may have written one.

I don't really know. You have to justify your requests,

though, when you do make such an application, yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you see any justifications for Merritt

that either you or O'Connor wrote?

Mr. Tucker. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. What did you say in those?

Mr. Tucker. Do you want me to give you an outline

of how these go? I cannot reply specifically. It runs something

like this. "During the period of so and so to such and such

captioned source provided information on the following

matters." Then you list them and give a brief capsule

of the information which he provided. In the body you

would say "It is therefore requested that the captioned

source be paid so much and then you break it down if

there were expenses, for the information he has provided.

That memorandum, then would go to the special agent in charge

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Mr. Oliphant.

Agent Tucker, there has to be some

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peparing the voucher that he is reliable, that it is good

information.

Mr. Tucker.

You would not utilize reliability as a

criterion at this time. This is done in semi-annual letters

regarding your informant and/or initial justifications.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you write a semi-annual letter?

Mr. Tucker. I did not.

Mr. Oliphant. Did O'Connor?

Mr. Tucker. He may have. I don't know. He would have,

when you convert someone from a potential informant to

a full-fledged informant the question of reliability

would have to be established.

Mr. Oiiphant. Was that written?

Mr. Tucker. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. What was said about Merritt?

Mr. Tucker. Based on the information we knew he was

reliable.

Mr. Oliphant. I just have one further question.

Regarding all the materials which were handed over in

November of 1971, in the packet which allegedly came from

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. Mx. Tucker. Again, there was no inventory, made.

If I had to hazard a guess, again, it probably would not

equal more than what you have in front of you right there.

Mr. Oliphant. Why were only certain things inco porated?

Why didn't they incorporate everything?

MI. Tucker. I didn't make the determination as to

what was going to be maintained and what was going to be

copied. So I cannot really say what the motivation was.

Again, it appears to me that the items which were maintained

were background information regarding IPS and its internal

operations.

Mi. Oliphant. My question to you is: Referring to

the November 29, 1971 memoranda that you were shown,

this states that you were telephonically advised about

three items which you stated had no real value substantively

to either a subversive or a fugitive investigation.

Now they were written down as background information.

My question to you is: If you thought these were significant

enough to put in, coming to you over the telephone, are you

saying that the other information that you got from

the trash there was even less interesting, or of lesser

value than this sort of information which you did see fit

to incorporate?

Mr. Tucker. In retrospect, I would have to say yes.

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the decision, is that correct?

But it was Agent O'Connor who made

Mr. Tucker. I don't know if I joined in that decision.

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Mr. Oliphant. Was it ever written in a report that

you had received information from Merritt that allegedly

came from the trash?

Did that ever come in a report?

Mr. Tucker. I don't believe so. Again, I did not have the

case assigned to me and do not know if the case agent

who was writing the reports -

Mr. Oliphant. Wouldn't that be normal, to state how

you got the information?

Mr. Tucker.

The way it would be set out would be

something along this line. On such and such a day such

and such a source provided the following.

Mr. Oliphant. I have no further questions.

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Flannagan.

Agent Tucker, I think you indicated

earlier in this interview that your dealing with Robert

Merritt was from roughly November, 1971, through May of

1972, is that correct?

Mr. Tucker. Correct.

Mr: Tiannagan. Did your involvement with the investigation

of Ips coincide with those dates? In other words, after May

of 1972, were you involved in an investigation of IPS?

Mr. Tucker.

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Mr. Tucker. Agent Sawyer had already left the squad by that

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Mr. Flannagan. Did you work with Special Agent

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Mr. Tucker. Yes, I did.

Mr. Flannagan. Did you work with Special Agent

Edward C. Rudiger?

Mr. Tucker. Yes, I did.

Mr. Flannagan. And with Special Agent Robert Feuer?

Mr. Tucker.

Yes, I dia.

MX. (Flannagan. And Peter Chase?

Mr. Tucker.

Yes, I did.

Mr., Flannagan

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Mr. Tucker. No. I worked on the same squad with

those individuals. I thought that was the thrust of your

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Flannagan.

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Mr. Tucker. Your question is a hard one to answer.

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Mr. Tucker. I worked with them on the same squad but

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with Robert Merritt?

Mr. Tucker.

Agent Feuer did.

Mr. plannagan. were any of the three of you, and

I am speaking of you, Mr. O'Connor, and Mr. Feuer, were

any of the three of you in charge of Merritt as an informer?

In other words, does the Bureau tend to think of an informer

as being developed by one agent?

Mr. Tucker. Yes. MI. O'Connor was what we term the case

agent.

MI. Flannagan:

Concerning Robert Merritt?

Mr. Tucker.

Right.

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Mr. Tucker. With the knowledge.

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Mr. Tucker. None other than what I have read in the

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Mr. Tucker. No.

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Do you recall any specific jobs

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Mr. Tucker. No, nothing specific. I think that he

wasn't working at the time. I think that may have been brought

up, you know, you ought to get a job.

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with Ethel Kennedy?

Mr. Tucker. Absolutely and categorically, no.

Mr.

Flannagan,

You cannot really remember whether or

not --

Mr. Tucker.

That I tecall.

Mr.

/Flannagan.

Mr Lucker.

Exactly

Why, incidentally, and I don't think

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Mr. Tucker. To give us a little anonymity. You don't

want to discuss this sort of thing at l8th and I. In other

words, there would be privacy there. That is a better

word than anonymity:

Mr. Flannagan:

Where did you pick him up?

Mr. Tucker.

I don't recall. We usually would pick him

up around 22nd and Massachusetts, and that area Sheraton

Circle.

Mr.

Flannagan: Who did you regard as your supervisor with

respect

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any of your investigative endeavors in connection

with IPS?

Mr. Tucker. Well, the entire time I was assigned to the

S-7 squad my supervisor was John R. Palmer.

Mr. Flannagan,

Did MI. Palmer specifically verbally or in

writing authorize the investigation of IPS?

Mr. Tucker.. There was a case opened on IPS. I

don't know whether it was opened during Mr. Palmer's tenure

or not.

Mr. Flannagan?

Were you aware, when Mr. Merritt began

giving you information concerning IPS, were you aware of the

nature of his first contact with IPS?

Mr. Tucker.

No. I don't know how he first came to know

them or they came to know him. I do not know that.

If I did know it then, I don't know it now.

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Elamagan. Did you ever encourage him to get a

job at IPS?

Mr. Tucker. Yes.

Mr.

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Was he successful in that?

MI.

Tucker.

No.

Mr. Flannagan.

What was the reason he gave for not being

successful?-

Mr. Tucker. He said that they had become extremely

vigilant in who they were going to hire. We felt that

since that was the case, we then began to discourage him with

any contact with IPS.

Mr., Flannagan.

Did he ever mention anything about

the lie detector case?

Mr. Tucker. Yes, he did.

Mx .

Flannagan. What was the nature of that reference?

Mr.

Tucker. He told us he talked to one of the attorneys

at IPS who told him he would have to undergo a polÿgraph

examination.

Mr.

Elannagan

Did you say to him that in effect that

would be all-right, because you could fix any polygraph

test that might.be administered?

Mr. Tucker. That I could fix?

Mr.

Flannagan. That the Bureau could?

Mr. Tucker. No.

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Community Book Store, that you never..

to your knowledge, never received anything from that

establishment.

Mr.. Tucker.

That is correct.

Mr.

Flannagan,

You never received any petitions,

membership lists, literature?

Mr. Tucker. To my knowledge at this point, no.

may have because he would often come in with literature

announcing demonstrations and the like.

Now he gave, and it may have been reported that he gave

us information from the Community Book Store, but at this

point I don't know.

Mr. Oliphant. Mr. Tucker, let me ask you this: what

did you do with all the documents you got, allegedly from

the trash, the middle of November? What happened to them?

Mr. Tucker.

We gave them back to Mc. Merritt and he

was told to take them back to IPS. He got them from the

trash and that is where they belonged.

Mr. Oliphant. Is that usual, to return things

to the trash?

Mr. Tucker. again we were not too sure about that

situation. The legal question of abandonment is really not

a very settled one.

Mr. Oliphant. Have you ever returned anything to the

trash before?

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That is the only time I ever got anything

from the trash.

Mr. Oliphant. Have you ever heard of people returning

things to the trash after they used them, agents?

Mr. Tucker. No, I haven't.

Mr. Oliphant. Why were they returned, why were these

documents returned to Merritt?

Mr. Tucker. Again, because we weren't very sure of the ques-

tion of abandonment in this case.

Mr. Oliphant. You weren't sure they had been abandoned?

Mr. Tucker. No. We weren't sure of the law on

abandenment.

Mr. Oliphant. Are you not sure of the word "abandonment"

or were you not sure they had been abandoned?

Mr. Tucker. I had no reason to doubt that he got

them from the trash at that time. Can I answer that way?

Mr. Oliphant. Sure.

Mr. Tucker. If that satisfies your question.

Mr. Oliphant. Did you return any other documents to

him?

Mr. Tucker.

No.

Mr. Oliphant. Then why did you return these?

Mr. Tucker. Because we weren't sure if we should

have had them.

Mr. Oliphant.

Why?

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Because they had come, he said they had

come. from the trash. Again, we weren't too sure about the

law of abandonment, whether or not we could have them.

Mr. Oliphant. Is acquiring documents from the trash

or evidence from the trash an investigative technique employed

by the FBI?

Mr. Tucker.

Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Had you heard of this technique being

used before you received these documents from the trash?

Mr. Tucker. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. Have you heard of it being used since you

received these documents from the trash?

Mr. Tucker. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. And at any other time have you ever

heard of documents being returned back to the trash?

Mr. Tucker. No.

Mr. Oliphant. Do you recail if there was a manuscript

in these documents?

Mr. Tucker.

No.

Mr. Oliphant. You don't remember, or there wasn't?

Mr. Tucker. I don't remember.

Mr. Oliphant. What sort of container were these

documents in, or these materials, whatever you want to call

them?

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Mr. Tucker. Yes.

Mr. Oliphant. About how many documents were in there?

Mr. Tucker. Again, I would have to characterize it by

about the same amount as sitting in front of you right

now.

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Flannagan. Ihave no further questions.

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R.

Wannal1

Hr. R. I. Shackolford

1 - Ur. J.B. Adame

2 - Nr. J.A. Mintz

(1-1x. llotis)

1 - Hr. W.R. Wannall

11/7/75

1 - 1x. R.I. Shackolford

1 - HI.

1.0. Cregar

1 - 15. LE. Brunilok

1 - 1t. J.F. Mckahon

U. 3. HOUR SELECT COITENE

ON INTELLIGECE (HSC)

PURPOSE:

To recomend that legal Coumal Diviston consult

with the Departuent to seal guldance as to the manner in

that

which the Bureau should respond to lISC requests for materiala

1n Bureau I1les relating to organizations and Individuals

currently involved in civil litigation with the Bureau, and

to ascertaln bon Bureau personnel should respond to similai

inquiries while slving testinony in oltbor Executive ar

public sessions.

DETAILS:

In Soptonbor and October, 1375, the HSC roquested,

among other items,

infornation fron Bureau filos concerning

a mmber of individuals associatod with the societist workers

Party (SNP) and Information from the file on the Imtitute

fos Polloy Studies (IPS), as well as the file of former

Pureau infornent Earl Robert Nexritt, Jr.

On 11/5/75, Bureau representatives Nr. ". H. Hannall,

Mr. B. L. Shackolford, and Mr. D. Ryan furnisbed daponitions

to the FSC concerning munerous natters including Burezu

investigations of 5 individuals affiliated with the SIP

and this Burvau's investigation of the IPS. ISC ropresentatives

indicatod at that time, that these toples will be the sub

ject of testimony scheduled for public asssion 11/18/75.

With rogard to HSC Inquirdes concerning the 5 SWP Individuals,

the thrust of the inguiries centared around this Bureau's

authority to Imentigato the SWP and 1ts nonbars, which 1r

ons of the main lasues to be resolved in a pending civil

sult which the SHIP has brought against the sureau.

regard

aurenu's authority to investigate this orgaaization,

well as publie charges nade against this bureau by

62-116464

(TTSC)

1 - 100-447935 (IPS)

I - 100-16 (SWP)

1 - 137-28413

(Herritt)

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Monorandun to Ir. ". I. Vannall

te: V. 5. House Select Comattee On Intelligence (ISC)

karl Robert Herritt, Jr., a fomes Duren informant who

furnished Information concerning the IPS. Charges by

Kerritt have been

publioly reiuted by this Bureau.

1s noted that the

It

Ips is also currently luvolved in

clvil litigation with this Auroau charging 1llogal

wiretapping and breaking and entering.

noditionally, on 11/5/15, 2 Bureau Agenta,

against wion fortitt had levied his unfounded charges, were

doposed by HISC nenbers at which time the Agonts were

accompaniad by the Dopartoontal Attorney who 1s handling

this litigation.

OBSERVATIONS:

In view of the ponding HSC request for matertal

relating to IPS, as well as information pertaining to

Bari nobert serritt, ir., wao is to be a principal witnega

in the IPS elvil Iltigation, and beczuse the hoo

zepresentatives have indicatod that the questioning oi

bureau officials scheduled for the isC pubilc hearing on

11/18/75 will Involve mattors directiy related to the

Governsent's actions in the defore of the civil suits

regarding both the Il and SWP, 1t 1e felt that Departmental

sdvice should be sought prior to this Bureau rasponding

to or engaging in furthor resporse to the ISC in these aroas.

RECOLNENDATIONS:

1) That Legal Coumsel Division comsult with the

Departuent to obtain advice as to hor the bureau abould

respond to HISC roquasts for asterials concarning IPS and

Merritt, and advise the Intellleence Division by neworsndum

of the results.

2) legal Counsel Division should determine from

the Department, the paranters to which Bureau representatives

should confire

their tostinony in oither Excoutivo or publlo

seISIOns concerning Ips

and suP and advise the Intelligance

Division by renorandun.

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Mr. J. B. Adams

11/20/75

Legal Counsel

U.S. RECORDING COMPANY;

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

At 3:00 p.m. on November 20, 1975, Joe Tait, U.S. Recording

Company, telephonically advised me that he has been requested to

appear for a staff interview by representatives of captioned committee

at 11:00 a.m. on November 21, 1975, at which time he anticipates being

served with a subpoena requiring him to produce his records concerning

dealings with the Martin Kaiser Company. Mir. Tait requested advice

concerning an appropriate response to the demand for his records. He

said that the records that would be involved in the demand are all classified

and he regarded that classification as binding. I told Mir. Tait that in view

of the fact the documents were classified, it would be necessary for the

matter to be presented to the Department for a determination as to

declassification of the documents or for the development of procedures

for submission of the documents to the Committee in classified form.

Mr. Tait interrupted me and said that he would prefer that I

furnish this information to his attorney and he requested me to call

Bryan Gettings at telephone number 525-2260.

I called Bryan Gettings and advised him of Ir. Tait's request that

I inform him of the difficulties involved in responding to a subpoena for

the production of documents where the documents involved are classified.

I told Vir. Gettings that it would be necessary for the fact that the subpoena

was issued for classified documents to be brought to the attention of the

Department for possible declassification or for the development of appropriate

procedures for submission of classified documents to the Committee.

•I/- 62-116464 (House Select Committee)

1 - Mr. Wannall

et note.

1 - Mr. Bassett

1 - Mr. Cochran

1 - Mr. Hotis

1 - Mr. Mintz

JAM:mid

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Memorandum to Mr. Adams

Re: U.S. Recording Company

I also told Mr. Gettings that it would be appropriate for him to

alert the Committee staff to the problems involved in supplying the

Commitee with documents that are classified. I told Mr Gettings that

I would not counsel him as to what advice he should give his client, but

the determination would be entirely his.

Mr. Gettings considered the matter briefly and then told me that

he would advise Mr. Tait to appear in response to the subpoena, but

to take no documents with him.

Further, he would advise Mr. Tait

to explain to the Committee staff that the documents are all classified

and that they would continue to respect the limitations imposed on disclosure

of that information due to the classification. He also would advise the

Committee staff that should the Committee desire to inquire further concerning

the documents that such inquiries should be made directly to the Department

of Justice. He said that he would not communicate with the Department of

Justice directly at this time concerning this matter, but would leave such

communication up to the Committee staff.

Upon completion of my discussion with Mr. Gettings, I telephonically

advised Mr. Callahan and Mr. Bassett of the results. Mr. Callahan inquired

concerning the current validity of the classification of the documents.

I discussed that matter with Mir. Bassett who advised me that the

classification of the documents had previously been reviewed and found to be

valid. I requested Mr. Bassett to verify that information in light of the

fact that he advised me the classification may have been based on purchasing

regulations rather than Executive Order 11652. Further, I told Mr. Bassett

that it may be necessary for the Bureau to be prepared to submit the documents

to the Departmental Review Committee for a determination as to whether

the documents should be declassified for purposes of responding to the

subpoena.

At approximately 4:15 p.m., Mr. Daly advised me that Tim Oliphant,

of the House Select Committee, called and requested the Bureau to authorize

Mr. Tait to release the documents to the Committee in view of Mr. Tait's

reluctance to do so based on their classification. I directed Mr. Daly to

call Oliphant and respond to his request by telling him that the documents

were classified and request Oliphant to permit us an opportunity to review

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Memorandum to Mr. Adams

•Re: U.S. Recording Company

the documents to determine the validity of the classification and to make

any necessary special arrangements for their delivery such as excision

of sensitive material.

Mr. Daly discussed this matter with Mr. Oliphant and then advised

me that Oliphant was agreeable to changing the time of the testimony from

11:00 a.m. on November 21st, to the late afternoon of November 21st,

and further that he was agreeable to having the documents reviewed and

sensitive information concerning the subjects of the purchases deleted.

Oliphant indicated that they were principally interested in the amounts

of the purchases and not the subject matter of the purchases.

I called Bryan Gettings at approximately 4:30 p.m. and told him

that the Committee staff had agreed to postpone the appearance to permit

the Bureau an opportunity to review the records and to make necessary

excisions concerning sensitive information describing the materials

purchased. I also explained to Mr. Gettings that due to arrangements

between the Department of Justice and the Committee, classified documents

were made available on Committee request. Therefore, I asked Mr. Gettings

for an opportunity to have the Bureau review the documents he was holding

for Mr. Tait in order for necessary excisions to be made prior to Mr. Tait's

appearance in response to the Committee request. I told him that the

Bureau was not in a position to direct Mr. Tait to decline to appear or to

produce the documents based simply on the fact that they were classified, but

that we did have an agreement with Mr. Oliphant that we would be permitted

to excise certain portions.

Mr. Gettings told me that he understood the limitations under which

the Bureau had to respond to Committee requests, and that he would

agree to have a Bureau representative review the documents and make

necessary excisions. However, he said that he was not bound by any

agreements with the Committee or by arrangements by the Attorney General

and that he did not feel that Mr. Tait or he should be inconvenienced by the

Committee unnecessarily. Therefore, he may advise Mr. Tait to decline

to appear until the first part of Cecember, 1975.

He said that he had determined that the Committee could not have

a subpoena issued and served on Mr. Tait prior to that time. Mr. Gettings

said that he would contact Mr. Oliphant, discuss the proposals, and advise

me of his decision.

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Memorandum to Mx. Adams

Re: U.s, Recording Company

I called Assistant Director Cochran and alerted him to the fact

that it may be necessary on the morning of November 21st for Laboratory

representatives to review the documents being held by Mr. Gettings

in order to make necessary excisions of sensitive information. He agreed

that he and William Harward of the Laboratory would be available for that

purpose and he requested that Vir. Keehan of the Inspection Division contact

him to make necessary arrangements.

I advised Mir. Keehan that Mr. Gettings had agreed to make the

documents available for Bureau review and that he should be available

on the morning of November 21st to revier the documents for purposes

of the current Inspection Division inquiry. If this arrangement can be

made it will be possible for the Inspection Division to have access to the

documents before they are submitted to the Committee and perhaps become

unavailable for our review. Mr. Keehan indicated he would be available

on November 21st.

At 5:20 p.m., Mr. Gettings called me and invited a representative

of the Bureau to come to his office at 1400 North Uhle Street located at

Court House Square in Arlington, Virginia, to pick up the records in

question and transport them to Bureau Headquarters for review and

appropriate excision. He said that he had contacted the Committee staff

and they have agreed that Mr. Tait will appear Friday, November 21st,

without his records but to discuss the purchase arrangements with the FBI

and with Martin Kaiser. He said that the Committee staff agreed to this

arrangement for the interview on the 21st, but it may be that the Committee

will insist upon production of the records at a later time. I advised

Mr. Bassett and Mr. Keehan of the Inspection Division and requested

Mr. Keehan to pick up the records at Mr. Gettings' office at 10:00 a.m.

on November 21st.

I advised Mr. Cochian: that the records will be available in the

Bureau and requested him to confer with Mr. Keehan and to arrange for

appropriate excision and he agreed.

RECOMMENDATION:

For information.

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OPTIONAL FORM NO, 10

HAY 1962 EDISON

GS$"/PAIR (41 CFR) 101-11.8

UNITED STATES GO

RNMENT

Memorandum

Assoc. Dir.

1 - Mr. J. B. Adams

1 - Mr. J. A. Mintz

(Attn: Mr. P. V. Daly)

TO

: Mr. W. R. Wannall wilhel

DATE:

12/1/75

1 - Mr. W. R. Wannall

FROM

:t. c Cassidy

1 - Mr. W. O. Cregar

1 - Mr. F. J. Cassidy

SUBJECT: U.S.

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE ON

INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (HSC)

Asst. Dif

Admin

Comp. Syst. -

Ext. Affairs -

Filos & Com. _

Gen. Inv. _

Ident.-

ispoctic

intrate

Laboratory

Logal Coun. f

Plan. & Eval.

Spec. Inv.

Training

Tolaphone Rm. -

Director Sec'y -

On 11/18/75 the Assistant to the Director-Deputy Associate

Director, James B. Adams, and other representatives of the FBI appeared

in open hearings before the HSC. A transcript of the hearings was furnished

to Assistant Director Wannall for review and to provide additional information

for inclusion in the official record of the hearings. On furnishing this

transcript it was indicated that the transcript should not be duplicated and

that the material should reach the Committee by 12/1/75.

On Monday, 12/1/75, SA Paul V. Daly, Legal Counsel Division,

contacted Carolyn Andrade, Office Manager of HSC, Who advised that the

deadline for our submissions would be postponed until 12/3/75 and that we

could duplicate the transcript of the hearings previously furnished if we

so desired.

ACTION:

None. For information.

St-11n

FJC:fb

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≤ 1975

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The Attorney General

Director, FBI

2 - Mr. J. A. Mintz

11 - Mr.

J. B. Hotis)

1 - Hs. W. R. Wannall

November 6, 1975

1 - Mr. W. O. Cregar

1 - Нг. А. С. ИсСхау

U. S. HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE ON

INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (HSC)

Reference is made io HSC letter dated September 26, 1975,

requesting access to all notes, menoranda, files, and reports

for the dates noted for the following:

A Quaker Action Group, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,

from 1966-1972

The American Friends Service Committee,

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, from 1960 to present

The Hovement for a New Society, Philadelphia,

Pennsylvania, from 1971 to present

Enclosed for your approval and forwarding to the

HSC is the original of a memorandum which constitutes this -

Bureau's response to the above request.

A copy of this memorandum is being furnished

for your records.

Enclosures (2)

REC-4J

I - The Deputy Attorney General

Attention:

Michael E. Shaheen,

Jr.

Special Counsel for

Intelligence Coordination

42-116464-205

& DEC 9

1975

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Admin. -

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Ext. Affairs ..

Files & Com. _

Gen. Inv. -

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2 - Mr.

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(1 - aT. J. B. Hotis)

1 - Mr.

R. Wannall

_ -Ar. 1. 0. Cregar

1 - Hr. A. C. MCCray

62-126464

November 6, 1071

U.S. HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

ON INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (HSC)

Reference is made to HSC lotter dated September 26,

1975, requesting access to all notes, memoranda, files, and

reports for the dates noted for the following:

A Quaker Action Group, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,

from 1966-1972

The Anerican Triends Service Conmittee,

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, from 1960 to present

The Movement for a New Society, Philadelphia,

Pennsylvania, fron 1971 to present

Feference is further made to conversation on

October 15, 1975, with Mr. Richard Vermeire and Ms, Ellen Miller

of the HSC staff

to the effect that the HSC now desired inforna-

tion on A Quaker Action Group for the years 1970-1972 and in

regard to The American Friends Service Committee for the

years 1971 to present.

In regard to The lovement for a New

society the request for information for the period 1971 to

present stood as originally requested.

Pertinent information responsive to the above ESC

request has been prepared in accordance with established

procedures relating to such matters, and this material is

available for review at FBI Headquarters by appropriately

cleared personnel of the HSC stail.

In regard to i Quaker Action Group it is noted

that most of the information in the tile fron december,

1971,

Assoc.

-OnWard concerns Bureau menoranda involving a civil suit

Dep. AD adm -brought by this organization against the Secretary of the

Ded Interior Challenging a regulation liniting the number of

Admin. _

-persons permitted to demonstrate in iront of the White House,

Comp. Syst. - These menoranda do not relate to A Quaker Action Group

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U, B. House

beloct Connittee

on Intelligence Activities

per se, but deal with requests made of the Bureau by

Departnental Attorneys. Thes

natorial has not been prepared

for the BEC.

In xegard to 'The Azerican Friends Service Committee (AFSC)

it is noted that

two items have not-been prepared for the esc.

One doals with information fron another government agency to

the oitect that the ArEC would protest the firat ilight ot

the E-1 Bomber ai Palmdale, Califorala, This item was

received by this bureau on December 20, 1974.

The other

Iten, roceived in August, 1972, was froy a Ledendly foreign

intelligence servide to the effect that the ANSC had been

in contadt with a mission of another foreign government 11

that country.

also in rogard to The American Friends Service

"Connittos four certals containing infornation frow an

intolligence service abroad have not been included in

material proparod for tha MSC. Theae four seriale relate

to exchange of visits between

wals from & foreign country.

1 - The Attoruey General

NOTE:

The other government agency referred to regarding the

B Bomber is OSI, U. S. Air Force. The friendly foreigr

inteliigence service is the RCMP who furnished information

regarding the ATSC contacting the People's Republic of China

Mission in Ottawa, Canada.

The four serials referred to in last paragraph of

memorandum contain information from Bureau source:300 recoived

by Legat Bonn. This material emanates from the U.S. Army,

Germany. Liaison Section states that on 11/3/75 Colonel

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HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

Addressee: .

11/6/75

ALTR

1 LHM

Memo

I Report

T.S. HOUSE

SELECT

COMMITTEE

ON INTELLIGENCE

Aption of Document: ACTIVITIES re request 9/26/75

for all material on Quaker Action Group,

Ameriçan Friends Service Committee and

The

Movement for a New Society

FBI

Delivered by:

I dudentle

11/10/05

Title: -

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BEFORE COMPLETING.

CLASSIFY AS APPROPRIATE

FROM:

TO: Intelligence Community Staff

ATTN: Central Index

FBI

SUBJECT: Abstract of. Information Provided to Select Committees

"Ho rein man me ree to me decement was made availablo

2. DATE PROVIDED '

Xa DOCUMENT |

BRIEFING

INTERVIEW

I TESTIMONY |

TOTHER

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FOR REVICH

3. TO WHOM PROVIDED (check appropriate

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SSC

& HSC

4. IDENTURICA, SPrpride de subitive data for documentsi five name or identification number of briefer,

testifier and subject)

Memorandun and enclosures

item number

"eto.mal

other-

HSC letter 9/26/75

U

?. Ksy "upde fonter the pasopriate key words from the list provided separatoly: if key words not listed are

Intelligence collection

Information handling

8. SUMMARY (see reverse side before completiné this item)

Materials relating to; A Quaker ActionGroup, Philadelphla, Pa.

from 1970-72; The American Friends Service Gomittee, Philodelphia,

Pa., 1971 to present; The lovement for a low Seciety, Philadelphia,

Pa., 1971 to present.

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IN CONNECTION WITH HOUSTUDY

INCAN AS

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• Date the abstract and put on any internal control numbers required.

• "FROM" entry should clearly identify the organization providing the

information.

• If additions (as when a copy of document sent to SSC is later sent to

SC) of changes to a previously submitted form are necessary, submit a

copy of the original abstract, with the change indicated.

SPECIFIC ITEM NO. 8. SUMMARY - inter brief narrative statement describing

substance of information and showing relationship to Intelligence Community

matters if appropriate. Any feedback or evidence of investigatory interests

should be noted. Commitments made to supply additional information should be

noted. Additionally, certain administrative information may be entered here,

e.g., restrictions on review of a document, if document was paraphrased, whether

interviewee is current or former employee, etc. If actual document or transcript

is provided, that fact should be noted and no summary is required. Additional

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2 -

A. Mintz

Mr. J. B. Hotis)

1 - Mr. W. R. Wannall

1 - Mr. W. 0. Gregar

1 ~ Mr. R. L. Shackelford

November 14, 1975

1 - Mr. T. J. McNiff

The Attorney General

Director, FBI

U,S. HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

ON INZELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (HSC)

Reference is made to letter from HSC dated

October 28, 1975, requesting certain information from the FBI.

Attached for your approval and forwarding to the

HSC is the original of a memorandum, with enclosure, which

constitutes this Bureau's response to the HSC request for

Bureau materials concerning Earl Robert Merritt, JI.

Your attention is called to Bureau request contained

in enclosed memorandum for a meeting between representatives

of this Bureau and the HSC to discuss the manner in which

this Bureau will respond in the future to HSC requests for

information concerning individuals with vhom a confidential

relationship may have existed.

A copy of the memorandum is being provided for your

records.

Enclosures

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ENCL BEHIND FILE

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з

Assoe, Dir.

I - The Deputy

Attorney General

Dep. AD Adm. -

Attention:

Michael E. Shaheen, Jr.

Dep. AD inv. -

Asst. Dir.:

Special Counsel for

Admin.

Intelligence Coordination

Comp. Syst.

Files & Com.

Gen. inv. f

Ident. -

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1: 1hb/ hb

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2 - MY

A. Mintz

(1 - Mr. J. B. Hotis)

1 - Mr.

W. R. Wannall

1 - Mr. W. O. Cregar

1 - Mr.

R. L. Shackelford

1 - Mr. T. J. McNiff

Hovenber 14, 1975

U. S. HOUSE SELECI COMITIDE

ON ITTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (USC)

RE: INPORMATION CONCERNING

EARL, ROBENT MERRITI, JR.

Reference is made to I5C letter dated Cctober 28,

1975, which requests, in part, "access to any and all

files at FBI concerning Barl Robert Merritt, Jx."

This Bureau is beconing concerned about the HSC

practice of submitting requests for all information in

Eureau files concerning named individuals, with no indication

as to the reason for the inquiry, As the HSC 1s aware,

this Dureau has, at one time or another, maintained a

confidential relationship with many of the individuals

named in prior USC requests, primarily in requests dated

September 24, 1975, October 3, 1975, and lovember 4, 1975.

It has been this Bureau's understanding that in responding

to HSC requests, this Bureau would not be forced to divulge

the identity of

its sources. This Bureau feels it 1s

essential, therefore, to meet with ISC representatives foi

the purpose of formlating guidelines for future handling

of requests pertaining to individuals. It would be appre-

ciated if the HSC would contact the Bureau liaison agent

with the ASG for the purpose of arranging requested meeting.

Assoc. Dis. -

Dep. AD Adm. -

Replies to requests contained in HSC requests of October 3,

Dep. AD Inv. -

1975, and November 4, 1975, will be held in abeyance pending

Asst. Dir.:

Admin. -

formulation of such guidelines.

Comp. Syst. -

Ext. Affairs -

Files & Com. -

lith regard to referenced request for material

Gen. Inv. -

relating to territt, HSC Stafs lember Illen Miller on

Ident.

Inspection --

November 13, 1975, advised this request 1a related to

Intell. -

Laboratory _

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Plan. & Eval. -

ORIGINAL AND ONE COPY TO AG WAITIN

Spoe, Inv. — TJM: 1hb /hb

Training -

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U. S. MOUSS SELECE COSTUMIDO CO LTUDLLTGDICS AGETVTIIES (180)

forthconing 10D haazing conscining Instituto for Policy

boudice, and colivery of the patoriol, ratior lion cocossg

tas reguosted.

is tho icason tox tid inquiry has boon

tienclfied and la vier of the iraincuce of the forthconing

boaring, portinent ratorlal rolocing to l'orriüt is bodna

focarded to you no an enclosure to this senorendur.

Inclazure

I - The Attorney Ceneral

NOIE:

Earl Robert Merritt, Jr., was a paid criminal

informant of the Washington Field Office from 10/1/71 until

he was discontinued 6/1/72 as doubt had been cast upon his

credibility. Merritt has subsequently made unfounded alle-

gations of having engaged in illegal tactics in the Bureau's

behalf and has also alleged improper conduct on the part of

handling Agents. These allegations have been refuied in

affidavits submitted by concerned personnel. Merritt

furnished information to this Bureau concerning Institute

for Policy Studies (IPS) which was under investigation during

the period he was án informant.

This response to HSC request has been coordinated

with Assistant Director John A. Mintz, Legal Counsel

Division.

Above-mentioned HSC letter of 9/24/75 requested

access to material relating to six individuals, one of whom

is a current informant. HSC vas granted access to material

relating to the five Bureau informants and tas confidentially

advised of the informant status of the sixth, and no material

NOTE CONTINUED PAGE 3

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U. S. MOUSE SELECT COMITITIE DI UTLULLICLICE ACTIVITTES (ISC)

RE: ILTONIAITON COLCHING SARL RODERE INUITI, J.

HORE CARCIUNDE

was furnished concerning this individual. Dy letter 10/3/75,

IISO requested access to 15 different individuals, one of

shon Is a current confidential source and the remaining were

all former Informants or alleged infortants. Ly letter

11/4/75, LiSe requested dolivery of material relating to the

five forner informants ventioned in letcer of 9/24/75.

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5-140 (Rev. 1-21-74) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

WASHINGTON, D. C. 20535

Addressee:

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

ÉLTR

XI LHM

→ Memo

• Report dated__ 11/14/75

House

Select Committee (HSC). Re: Info

Caption of Document:

Concerning Earl Robert Merrift, JI.

(HSC letter 10/28/75.)

Originating Office:

FBI

aul Kalone: 11 - 14

Return this receipt to the Intelligence Division, FBI

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TE: SEE INSTRUCTIONS ON REVERSE

BEFORE COMPLETING.

CLASSIFY AS APPROPRIATE

FROM:

TO:

Intelligence Community Staff

ATTN: Central Index

SUBJECT: Abstract of Information Provided to Select Committees

I DOCUMENT |

appropriate

review but not transmitted,

BRIEFING

moto!, a document was made available

INTERVIEW

TESTIMONY

OTHER

3. TO WHOM PROVIDED (check appropriate term; add specific names if appropriate)

2. DATE PROVIDED

72/14/75

SSC

X HSC

IDENTIFICATION (provide

descriptive data for documents; give name or identification number of briefer,

interviewee, testifier and subject)

Memorandum and enclosures

5. WiSe

RESPONSE TO (list date

and item

state

request

of (name),

HSC letter 10/28/75

te formal request, other-

• CLASSIFICATION O

NFORMATION (ente

Codewosd TS or

used under fine fo

fothe appropriate key words from the list provided separately; if key words not listed are

• Infornation handling

Intelligence collection

8. SUMMARY (see reverse side before completing this item)

All matorals concerning Earl Robert Merritt, Jy., as they relate

to Institute For Policy Studies.

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INSTRUCTIONS

• Type or print clearly in ink.

• Indicate classification of the abstract top and bottom.

• Date the abstract and put on any internal control numbers required.

.

"FROM" entry should clearly identify the organization providing the

information.

• If additions (as when a copy of document sent to SSC is later sent to

HSC) or changes to a previously submitted form are necessary, submit a

copy of the original abstract, with the change indicated.

SPECIFIC ITEM NO. 8. SUMMARY - enter brief narrative statement describing

substance of information and showing relationship to Intelligence Community

matters if appropriate. Any feedback or evidence of investigatory interests

should be noted. Commitments made to supply additional information should be

noted. Additionally, certain administrative information may be entered here,

e.g., restrictions on review of a document, if document was paraphrased, whether

interviewee is current or former employee, etc. If actual document or transcript

is provided, that fact should be noted and no summary is required. Additional

pages may be attached if necessary.

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2

J. A. Mintz

(1

- Mr.

J. B. Hotis)

1 - Mr. W. R. Wannall

1

. - Mr. W. A. Branigan

• (RIFR)

1 - Mr. W. O. Cregar

1 - Mr. K. A. Mendenhall

November 11, 1975

The Attorney General

Director, FBI

U.s.

HOUSE SELECT COMTEE OU

INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (HSC)

:

Reterence is made to HSC letter dated September 30,

1975, requesting delivery and access to certain documents and

information pertaining to the Adminiscrative Index (ADEX) and

its precedent, the Security Index (SI) •

Reference is also

made to HSC letter dated October 15, 1975, requesting, under

items 5 and 6, additional information and documents concerning

the ADEX and the SI.

Enclosed for your approval and forarding to the HSC

is the original of a memorandum with enclosures which constitutes

this Bureau's response to the above requests.

A copy of this memorandum is being furnished for

your records.

Enclosures (11)

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REC-41

attentions Wilcial e sat 562:116464.203.

Intelligence Coordination

KAM: en ein

(10)

3 DEC ?

Assoc. Dir.

Dep. AD Adm. -

Dep. AD inv. _

Asst. Dir.:

Admin.

Comp. Syst.

Ext. Affairs

3

SEGRET MATERIAL ATTACHED

5-1115

Gen. Inv..

Ident. _

Inspection

Intell..

Loboratory -

ENCE BREIND FIAN

Plan. & Eval. -

Spec. Inv. -

Training -

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J.

A. Mintz

Mx. J. B. Hotis)

I - Mr •

W. R. Wannall

1

• Mr.

W. A. Branigan

1 - Mr. W. O. Cregar

1 - Mx. K. A. Mendenhall

(RTER)

62-116464

November 1, 1975

U.S. HOUSE. SELECE CONMITTEE

OII INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (HSC)

RE:

SECURITY INDEX (ST) AND

ADMINISIRATIVE INDEX (ADEX)

Roference is mado to HSC letter dated September 30,

1975, requesting delivery and access to certain documents

and information rogarding the ADEX and its precedent, the sI.

Reference is also made to HSC letter dated October 15, 1975,

not for dissemi

requesting, under itens 5 and 6, a listing of all persons who

have been on the ADEX since its inception; a copy of the

and

current AEy list and a list of all persons on the the SI

afficial proceedings bu

when it was discontinued.

Reference is further made to our

memorandun dated September 12, 1975, setting forth background

information concerning the SI

and the ADEX.

request

Inclosed are documents reflecting the various

criteria which have been and are currently being utilized

to your

¿o include an individual's name on the ADEX and a chart

reflecting a statistical breakdown of the ADEX. Additionally

Its use is limited to

information is set forth in Section 87, item E, page 18,

of the FBI Manual of Instructions (hol), concerning the

criteria for inclusion on the ADEX.

A copy of this section

of the HOt has previously been furnished the HSC.

It is noted that this Bureau has in the past. mado

prepared in response

Committee.

the content may not be disclosed to unauthorized person

available the computerized ADEX listing dated September 15,

express approval of the FBI

1975, for review at rBI Headquarters (FBIIQ) to ISC staff

members, Richard Vermeire and Janes Oliphant,

With regaza to

Dep. AD Adm. -

is of the fim conviction that an extensive and sensitive

list such as the ADEX should not be released fron the strict:

supervision and security afforded at FBIIQ. However, in

This

nation outside

your Committee and

the

the isc requost for delivery of this nEX list, this Bureau

Sy are on,

nel without

Ext. Affairs - ORIGINAT. AND ONE TO ATTORNEY GENERAL

Files & Com. -

Gen. Inv. -

Ident. -

-KAM: en 2

Inspection -

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Intell. -

Laboratory

Plan. & Eval. -

Spoc. inv. -

Training -

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Telephone Rm. -

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i::

RE :

SECURITY INDEX (SI) AND

ADMINISTRATIVE INDEX (ADEX)

order for the HSC to resolve any questions relating to

the operation and maintenance of the ADEX and to enable

the HSC to comply with its mandate in every respect,

this Bureau will, upon

request, continue to make the ADEX

list available for review at FBIHO to appropriate HSC

representatives.

Authority for maintaining the ADEX stems from the

Attorney General and such authority is set forth in a letter

crom the Attorney General to the Director of the isi dated

October 22, 1971, a copy of which is enclosed with this

memorandum.

Those documents pertaining to the SI to which access

was requested are available for review by appropriately

cleared HSC staff members at FBI Headquarters.

In this

regard, it is

to be noted that auchority for maintaining the

SI stenned from the Attorney General in connection with the

Departmental portfolio entitled "Program for Apprehension and

Detention of Persons Considered Potentially Dangerous to

the National Defense and Public Safety of the Uniteâ Staces."

Detailed information and documents concerning what

steps were to be taken in event of a national emergency are

set forth in the above-mentioned portfolio which, since that

document originated with the Department of Justice, should

be obtained from that source.

As has previously been stated, the ADEX is reviewed

continuously and on a monthly basis is brought up to date

with names being added and deleted.

The St list was prepared

in the same manner and, as with the former SI, when a new

monthly ADEX list is prepared copies of the old list

are destroyed inasmuch as they are outdated and no longer

serve a useful purpose. Also, as you have previously been

advised, names appearing on the former SI and the ADEX

nave been printed on 5 x 8 cards with a single name printed

or cach card.

Background information, file numbers, and

type of activity in which the individual is engaged are also

placed on these cards. As was explained to Mr. Vermeire on

October 17, 1975, approximately 15,000 of these cards, all

outdated, have been located at FBI Headquarters. These

Doulde

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Ru:

SECURITT INDEX (SI) AND

ADNIMISTRATIVE INDEX (ADER)

cards include sons which contale the liantity of individuals

who vort natatalied on the fIlority III level of the forsar

3I and all ADRi cards delated or cancelled since ita

Incapelos.

raring the laltial period of antabllabing the

ADEt, la ordar to obviato the need for conducting passive

11lo reviers, the Nilx consiatod primarily of the identity

of thosa individuala who had bean maintained on the forsaI

Although those nanas vare orlainally placed la this

1AN1A7 ON thO KEY ADET, AS CAReS VETA ISTIANed UndeI OuT then

oxisting reportiay procoduras, aach chas vas to be repleved

on its on merits utillainy tin then current criteria for ADEX.

to dotaraine vhether continued inclusion on the ADEX tas

WarIantaNt.

I! not, the Individual's nase was seletad.

provlonaly Indicatod, during 1972 tha ADE: war evaluatad and

revised and as s tenult, the nurbar of Individuals to vsre

Ineloded on the ADly bogan to daolite and thus the high number

of cancallad cards.

In accordance with sureau polley, which

vas Institutod during the sI progras, these cancellel carda

are maintained at PRIlo for a perlod of three joars and

CROTE d$ NO MaY tO IACONSTIUCE & LOTUDI SI OI ADIL LINE FOI E

partloular tune perlad by revioving chose cancellod cardo.

Piesa carda, however, will reflact the identity of those

individuals nho hava

beat placed on the 3I and the Aubr for

the parlad for which thess carês vere maintalaed.

should the Isc so deaira, the outdated si asc

ADEX carde mentioned shove u11l ta made avallable foI revieN

by sypTopIlAte ISC repIasantatiVes et faIla.

Enclosures (9)

1 ~ The Attorney General

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SECUrITY IIDE. (SI) AID

ADUTHISZRAZIVE INDEX (ADEX)

As previously stated, ve neither believe it

necessary nor desirable to release copies of the A1cx 113t

due to the sensitive nature of this list

Any Iclease of

Information concerning the identity of individuals maintained

on the list could ho detrimental to ongoing Burcau investi

gations, particularly with respoct to the identity of those

Indivicutta maintaince on the espionage scotion dI the alex.

Per Jonas D. 3, Ercola and Janes Holan of the CI-l Gection,

tha espionage section ds the Abox should be clacoitica "7op

Secrett inacuch as disclosure of cortzin nares on the 1i3t

could adversely affect sensitive sources of this Bureau.

contact topresentativos of the

CI- faction to coordinaiE

the claritication of this section of the ADes.

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Addressee:

DILTR

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

X] LHM

• Memo

• Report dated 11/II/75

Caption »S HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

9/30/75 request also 10/15/75,

items 5 and 6

2450

Delivered by:

Сисначат хала

pate: 11/12/75

Received by:

Title:

Return this receipt to the Intelligence Division, FBI

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CLASSIFY AS APPROPRIATE

FROM:

SEE INSTRUCTIONS ON REVERSE

BEFORE COMPLETING.

TO:

Intelligence Community Staff

ATTN: Central Index

FBE

SUBJECT: Abstract of Information Provided to Select Committees

1. HOW PROVIDED (check appropriate

If a document was made available

review but not transmitted,

note.)

X DOCUMENT |

BRIEFING

INTERVIEW

TESTIMONY

JOTHER

FOR REVIEH AND DELIVERY

3.

TO WHOM PROVIDED (check appropriate

term;

add specific names if appropriate)

2. DATE PROVIDED

12/11/75

SSC

HSC

4. IDENTIFICATION

(provide descriptive data for documents; give name or identification number of briefer,

interviewee, testifier and subject)

Memorandum and enclosures

5. IN

RESPONSE TO (list date and item

number if in response to formal request, other

state verbal

request of (name),

nitiative, subpoena, etc.

HSC Letter 9/30/75

S

7. KEY WORDS (enter

the appropriate key words from the

underline

for emphasis)

list

provided separately; if key words not listed are

Operating procedures

Information handling

Intelligence collection

8. SUMMARY (see reversé side before completing this item)

Materials furnished reflecting the various criterle which have

been and are currently being utilized to include an individuals

name on the ADEX and a chart reflecting a statistical break down

of the Max; Authority for maintaining the ADEX; for review by

appropriate ISC Staff Members at FBINQ cemputerized ADEX listing;

documents pertaining to the St.

62-116464

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IN CONNECTION WITH HOUSTUDY

TREAT AS YELLOW

CLASSIFY AS APPROPRIATE

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INSTRUCTIONS

• Type or print clearly in ink.

• Indicate classification of the abstract top and bottom.

• Date the abstract and put on any internal control numbers required.

• "FROM" entry should clearly identify the organization providing the

information.

• If additions (as when a copy of document sent to SSC is later sent to

HSC) or changes to a previously submitted form are necessary, submit a

copy of the original abstract, with the change indicated.

SPECIFIC ITEM NO. 8. SUMMARY - enter brief narrative statement describing

substance of information and showing relationship to Intelligence Community

matters if appropriate. Any feedback or evidence of investigatory interests

should be noted. Commitments made to supply additional information should be

noted. Additionally, certain administrative information may be entered here,

e.g., restrictions on review of a document, if document was paraphrased, whether

interviewee is current or former employee, etc. If actual document or transcript

is provided, that fact should be noted and no summary is required. Additional

pages may be attached if necessary.

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The Attorney General

Director,

FBI

I-Mr. J. B, Adams

2-MIr.

J. A. Mintz

(1-Mx. D. W. Bowers)

November 10, 1975

1-Mx. D. W. Moore

I-MT.

W. R. Wannall

I-Mx. W. O. Cregar

I-Mr. W. A. Branigan

I-Mr. J. M. Fox

ALLEGATIONS OF SOVIET

PINETRATIONS ON CAPITOL HILL

INTERNAL SECURITY - RUSSIA

Transmitted herewith is a copy of a letter to

tir. Michael Shabeen, Jt., Special Counsel for Intelligence

Coordination, Department of Justice, dated November 5,

1975, forwarded to me from Congressman Otis G. Pike,

Chairman, House

Select Conmittee on Intelligence.

The

letter requests

"from the FBi information regarding Soviet

bloc penetrations of Congressional staiis.

For your information, the case referred to in

paragraph

two of my letter to Congressman Pike was never

presented to the Department of Justice for a prosecutive

opinion.

It was felt that use of extremely sensitive sources and

techniques in the investigation of this matter mitigated

against prosecution.

Also enclosed is a copy of my proposed response

to this request.

This response will be delivered to

Congressman Pike with your approval.

Enclosures (2)

I ~ The Deputy Attorney General - Enclosures

(2)

I - Mr. Michael I. Shakeen, Jr. - Enclosures (2)

Department of Justice,! -11 REC-41

JMF:emg/mIamili

9 1975

NOTE:

Assoc. Dir..

Dep. AD Adm...

Dep. AD Inv.

Asst. Dir.:

Admin..

Comp. Syst.

Ext. Affairs

Files & Com. _

Gen. Inv. _

Ident.

Inspection

Intell.

Laboratory

Plan. & Eval. -

Spec. Inv..

Training

Legal Coun. -

Telephone Rm.

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See

memorandum

• W. A. Branigan to

W. R.

/10/75, captiosed

Wannall

as above, prepared by JMF: emg

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SECRETE

1-Mr. J. B. Adams

2-Hx. J. A. Mintz

(I-MT.

D. W. Bowers)

1-Mr. D. W. Moore

November 10, 1075

BY LIAISON

I-Mr. W. R. Hannall

I-Mr. W. 0, Cregar

1-Nr. W, A. Branigan

1-Mr. J. M. Tox

NATIONAL DE UNITY INLONMATION

Unauthorized Disclosure

Subject to Criminal Sanctions

Honorable Otis G. Pike

Chairnna, Soleot Cormittee

on Intelligence

United States House of

Representatives

Hashington, D. C. 20515

Dear Mr. Chairnan:

I have received your letter of November 5, 1975,

requesting infornation concerning Soviet-bloc penetrations

of Congressional staffs.

The IBI is aware of only one instance wherein an

individual employed on a Congressional stail furnished to

hostile intelligence agents information obtained through

his Congrestional employment, without the prior knowledge

of the IBI. Atter the FBI learned of this action and col

Ironted the individual involved, he adnitted that he had

indeed passed information which he had obtained while employed

with a Congressional staff to a hostile intelligence service.

This individual initially oftered to assist the rat, te soy

* Linited period of time he appeared to cooperate.

his contacts

1/11/3"

Dilent:

not to be trusted.

In order to assure that he posed so

further

* threat to

the security of the united states,

action

was taken to neutralize any lurther valuo he might have to

the hostile intelligence service.

Because the disclosure of

this information to your Conmittee might infringe on the privacy

Assoc. Dir.

of others, I am unable

to supply nore specific facts at this

Dep. AD Adm. _

time.

Dep. AD Inv. _

Asst. Dir.:

REC-AL

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Comp. Syst.-

Ext. Affairs -

Filos & Com. -

Gen. Inv..

Ident. -

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Exempt from GDS,

Categories

2 and 3

Date of Declassification Indofinite

Inspection

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SECRET

Honorable Otis G, Pike

This Bureau knows of no other "American citizens

and foreign nationals" who may have improperly passed

sensitive information to Soviet-bloc intelligence agents

without prior FBI knowledge. Congressional staff members

regularly volunteer to the FBI facts regarding their contacts

with Soviet-bloc officials and other persons who appear

suspiclous and who have an undue interest in sensitive material.

Soviet-bloc officials often make efforts to recruit sources

and influential contacts on Capitol Hill through whom they may

obtain sensitive information.

When the FBi learns of such

instances it advises the appropriate Congressman and, if he

has no objection, the FBI may interview the staff member or,

in some instances, consider utilization of him in an operation,

FBI, aimed at determining the reason for the

These operations are undertaken between

the FBI and the Congressman ox staff member with an understanding

of confidentiality and sometimes involve sensitive sources and

methods. To turnish such information to the House Committee, it

1s felt, will not only violate the understanding of contidentiality

the FBI has had with the Congressman and staff members involved,

but may also jeopardize the sensitive sources and methods which

were utilized in some of these cases, and have a detrimental

effect on our future ability to fulfill our foreign counter-

For these reasons i regret that I am unable to

furnish to your Committee information regarding these in-

dividuals who have confidentially cooperated wich the FBI,

Sincerely yours,

!

Clarence M. Kelley

Director

I - The Attorney General

I-The Deputy Attorney General

I - x, Michael E, Shaheen,

JI.

Special Counsel for Intelligence Coordination

Department of Justice

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STCRET

Honorable Otis G. Pike

NOTE:

This letter has been prepared in response to the

request from Congressman Pike dated 11/5/75. Mr. Pike's

letter is attached for information.

See memorandum W. A. Branigan to W. R. Wannall

dated 11/10/75 captioned "Allegations of Soviet Penetrations

on Capitol Hill," prepared by JNF:dan.

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..

5-140 (Rev. 1-21-74) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

WASHINGTON, D. C. 20535

Addressee:

OLTR

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

• Memo

• Report dated _ 11/10/75

ALLEGATIONS OF SOVIET PENETRATIONS

ON CAPITOL HILL

FBI

Originating Office:

Delivered by:

Drind Vilaly

Received by:

Inidy Shektal

Title:

nuestigator

Return this receipt to the Intelligence Division, FBI

Date: 1i/11/35

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SEE INSTRUCTIONS ON REVERSE

BEFORE COMPLETING.

TO:

Intelligence Community Staff

ATTN: Central Index

CLASSIFY AS APPROPRIATE

FROM:

FBI

SUBJECT: Abstract of Information Provided to Select Committees

1. HOW

PROVIDED (check

appropriate

If a document was made available

for review but not transmitted,

so note.)

& DOCUMENT BRIEFING

INTERVIEW

I TESTIMONY

JOTHER

2. DATE PROVIDED

11/10/75

3. TO WHOM PROVIDED (check appropriate term; add specific names if appropriate)

SSC

HSC

4.

IDENTIFICATION (provide descriptive data for documents;

give name or identification number of briefer,

interviewee, testifier and subject)

Memorandun

÷ --

5. U Responserbal pedate arten metalio, esponse formal request, other-

6. CLASSIFICATION OF

UNFO, MA, 05 Center

odeword

HSC letter 11/5/75

S

7. Key dunde linter the paropriate key words from the list provided separately; if key words not listed are

Information handling

8. SUMMARY (see reverse side before completind this item

Infornation furnished regarding Soviet-bloc penetrations

of Congrescional staffs.

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IN CONNECTION WITH HOUSTUDY

TREAT AS VELON SA

CLASSIFY AS APPROPRIATE

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INSTRUCTIONS

• Type or print clearly in ink.

• Indicate classification of the abstract top and bottom.

• Date the abstract and put on any internal control numbers required.

"FROM" entry should clearly identify the organization providing the

information.

• If additions (as when a copy of document sent to SSC is later sent to

HSC) or changes to a previously submitted form are necessary, submit a

copy of the original abstract, with the change indicated.

SPECIFIC ITEM NO. 8. SUMMARY - enter brief narrative statement describing

substance of information and showing relationship to Intelligence Community

matters if appropriate.

Any feedback or evidence of investigatory interests

should be noted. Commitments made to supply additional information should be

Additionally, certain administrative information may be entered here,

e.g., restrictions on review of a document, if document was paraphrased, whether

interviewee is current or former employee, etc. If actual document or transcript

is provided, that fact should be noted and no summary is required. Additional

pages may be attached if necessary.

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2 - Mx.

A. Mintz

(1

- Mr. J. B. Hotis)

1 - Mr.

R. Wannall

1 - Mr.

w. 0. Cregar

1 - Mr. H. W. Dare, Jr.

November 14, 1975

UNTIED STATES HOUSE SELICE COLLINTER

TO STUDY GOVERNMENTAL. OPERATIOIS

MITH RESPECT TO INTILLIGENCI ACTIVISIES (ISC)

RE: IUFORMAZION CONCERING TIE VIERTAI

VETERANS AGAINSI CHE VAR

Refcrence is made to letteis fron captioned

Conmittoe dated October 20, 1975, and October 28, 1975

(Iten 5) - Letter dated October 20, 1975, specifically

requested access to all notes, memoranda, files, reporto,

and actions directed toward the Victnam Veterans Against

the

War, fron 1971 to the present.

Pertinent information responsive to the above

ISC request has been prepared in accordance with

established procedures relating to such matters, and

this material is avallable for review at FBI Headquarters

by appropriately cleared personnel of the Isc staff.

Hovever, due to the voluminous natorial in

question and pursuant to an agrcement scached in a

discussion with Ellen Miller, Staff lember, IISC on

October 28, 1975, only reports and menoranda tron our

Boston, Chicago,

New York, and Washington Flold Offices

are boing nade available for review.

1 - The Attorney General

ORIGINAL AND ONE COPY FURNISHED THE ATTORNEY GENERAI

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Assoc. Dir.

Dep. AD Adm. -

Dep. AD Inv, _

Asst. Dir.:

Admin.

Comp. Syst. -

Ext. Affairs _

Files.& Com. _

Gen. Inv. -

Ident. -

Inspection

Intell.

Laboratory

Plan. & Eval. -

Spoc. Inv. -

Training -

Legal Coun. _

Telephone Rm. -

Director Soc'y -

MAIL ROOM [

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Information Concerning the Vietnam

Veterans Against the War

NOTE:

In addition to the above-mentioned request,

the HSC requested access to the same type of materials

as mentioned above for John Kerry, former Head of the

Vietnam Veterans Against the War, from 1971 to the

present. This request is being handled by separate

communication since it involves the reviewing of

approximately 70 references and one main file.

Ellen

liller, mentioned above, conferred with dupervisors

Thomas J. McNiff and Howard W. Dare, JI., concerning

this matter on October 28, 1975, and an agreement was

reached whereby only reports and memoranda from those

offices mentioned above would be made available for

review.

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the hitorney General

2 - J.

A. Mintz

(1 ~ J. B. Hotis)

1 - W. P. Wannall

1 - W. O. Cregar

1 - H. WroPaRtor fa, 1975

75

lim.

1

UNISED STATES HOUSE SELECI COMITTEE

:

leforence is made to letters from the FSC

cated Datober 20, 1975, and Cotober 23, 1975, requesting

certain infomation from the FBI.

Actached for your approval and forarding to the

ISC is ihe original of a nomorandun containing a resyonse to

one of the Committee's

requests.

A copy of the memorandum is being provided for

your racords.

Enclosures (2)

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Attention:

Michael &. Shaheen, Ji.

Special Counsel for

Intelligenca Coordination

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Assoc. Dir. -

Dep. AD Adm. -

Dep. AD Inv. -

Asst. Dir.:

Admin.

Comp. Syst. _

Ext. Affairs -

Files & Com. -

Gen. Inv. -

Ident. -

Inspection

Intell. .

Laboratory

Plan. & Eval..

Spec. Inv. -

Training

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Tolephone Rm. -

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• FBI

OFFICE OF THE DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL

WASHINGTON, D.C. 20530

OCT 2 1 1975

Repost tried to

456-114/22-

TO: John A. Mintz, Assistant Directo

Legal Counsel

Division

Federal Bureau of Investigation

FROM:

SB

Steve Blackhurst

Assistant Special Counsel for

Intelligence Coordination

SUBJECT:

House Select Committee Letter dated October 20, 1975

Ton Intelligare

Attached is a letter from the House Select Com-

mittee dated October 20, which requests various FBI ma-

terials. Please prepare

an appropriate response to this

request.

10/3/s assigned Bass

from C G, 8S, uFAINY.

N

Loreto

/* ENCLOSURE

REG-4162-116464-201

DEC g 1975

recal 10/24/18-

cc: Paul Daly

18-22

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OCT 2 1 1975

TO:

FROM:

SUBJECT:

John A. Mintz, Assistant Director

Legal Counsel Division

Federal Bureau of Investigation

Steve Blackhurst

Assistant Special Counsel for

Intelligence Coordination

House Select Committee Letter dated October 20, 7975

Attached is a letter from the House Select Com

mittee dated October 20, which requests various FBI ma-

terials,

Please prepare an appropriate

response to

request.

Ce:

Paul Daly

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OTIS G. PIKE, N. Y., CHAIRMAN

* FOBERT N. GIAIMO, CONN. , , ROBERT MCCLORY, ILL.

JAMES V. STANTON, OHIO

DAVID C. TREEN, LA,

RONALO V. DELLUMS, CALIF.

JAMES P. JOHNSON, COLO.

MORCAN F. MURPHY, ILL.

• ROBERT 1Y, KASTEN, JR., WIS.

LES ASPIN, WIS.

DALE MILFORD, TEX.

, PHILIP H. HAYES, IND.

WILLIAM LEHMAN, FLA.

• SEARLE FIELD, STAFF DIRECT

RON B. DONNER, COUNSI

TELEPHONE: (202) 223-9751

Select Committee on Intelligence

M.S. House of Representatines

Clashington, B.C. 20515

October 20, 1975

Mr. Michael E. Shaheen, JI.

Special Counsel for Intelligence Coordination

U.S.

Department of Justice

Washington, D. C.

20530

Dear Mr. Shaheen:

We hereby request access to all notes, memoranda, files.

reports, and actions directed toward Mr. John Kerry, former

head of

the Vietnam Veterans Against the War from 1971 to

the present.

In addition, we

request access to the same materials for

the Vietnam Veterans Against the War for the same time

period.

Please provide these materials

forthwith.

Sincerely,

As ford tal

A. Searle Field

Staff Director

ASF/EM/mas

OCT 20.2/5

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5-140 (Rev. 1-21-74) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

WASHINGTON, D. C. 20535

Addressee:

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

_ Memo

I Report dated

11/14/75

Caption of Document:

HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE

10/20 and 10/28/75, Item 5

Date: 1/19/25

Received by:

m lindence

Return this receipt to the Intelligence Division, FBI

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SEE INSTRUCTIONS ON REVERSE

BEFORE COMPLETING.

CLASSIFY AS APPROPRIATE

FROM:

TO:

Intelligence Community Staff

ATTN: Central Index , *

ГВІ

SUBJECT: Abstract of Information Provided to Select Committees

1. HOW PROVIDED (check appropriate term. If a document was made available

for

not transmitted, so

note.)

X DOCUMENT

BRIEFING

INTERVIEW

I TESTIMONY |

OTHER

FOR REVIOU

3. ТО WHOM PROVIDED (check appropriate term; add specific names if appropriate)

2. DATE PROVIDED

11/14/75

SsC

* HSC

4. IDENTIFICATION

(provide descriptive data for documents; give name or identification number of briefer,

interviewee, testifier and

subject)

Memorandum

'. IN RESPONSE

To (list date and item number

o formal request, other

verbal

request of (name),

• CLASSIFICATION (

initiative,

subpoena,

FORMATION (ente

Codewosa TS or

Hsc letter 10/20/75 and 10/28/75, Item 5

U

used oRder lint for emperopriate key words from

the list provided separately; if key words not listed are

Information handling

Intelligence collection

8. SUMMARY (see reverse side before completing this item)

For review by appropriate HSC Staff Members at FBI:Q all materials

concerning the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, from 1971 to

the present.

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ORIGINAL VIA LIAISON. TO CENTRAL. COMMUNITY INDEX

IN CONNECTION WITH HOUSTUDY

TREAT AS YELLOW

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INSTRUCTIONS

• Type or print clearly in ink.

• Indicate classification of the abstract top and bottom.

• Date the abstract and put on any internal control numbers required.

• "FROM" entry should clearly identify the organization providing the

information.

• If additions (as when a copy of document sent to SSC is later sent to

HSC) or changes. to a previously submitted form are necessary, submit a

copy of the original abstract, with the change indicated.

SPECIFIC ITEM NO. 8. SUMMARY - enter brief narrative statement describing

substance of information and showing relationship to Intelligence Community

matters if appropriate. Any feedback or evidence of investigatory interests

should be noted. Commitments made to supply additional information should be

noted. Additionally, certain administrative information may be entered here,

e.g., restrictions on review of a document, if document was paraphrased, whether

interviewee is current or former employee, etc. If actual document or transcript

is provided, that fact should be noted and no summary is required. Additional

pages may be attached if necessary.

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FBI

THE DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE

WASHINGTON, D. C. 20505

Intelligence Community Staff

DCI/IC 75-2626

25 November. 1975

MEMORANDUM FOR: Members of the USIB Ad Hoc Coordinating

Group

SUBJECT

Security Clearances

15.

Attached is a listing of staff personnel of the House Select

Committee on Intelligence who have been briefed for compart-

mented information.

(Jack E. Thomas

Major General, USAF (Ret.)

Chief, Coordination Staff, ICS

Attachment

ST-110

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Staff. Members of the House Select Committee on Intelligence who have been briefed on Compartmented

Information are listed below:

NAME

Andrade, Carolyn M.

Atkisson; John

Bạch; Stanley

Beam, Alex

Boos, John I.

Brooks, Herbert

Carroll, Roger

Donnor, Aaron B.

•Field, A: Searle

Flint, Jonathan

Gitten, Denise

Hattery, Tom

Hecht, Stanley

Hess, Jacqueline

Hughes, Peter III

Hyndman, Paul V:

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Social Security No.

Briefed (SI, "TK & BYC)

118-03-6022

573-52-2011

339-36-5639

JFK Act 5 (g) (2) (D)

372-46-0008

472-14-2142

006-34-3747

Gen-07-8884

JEK Act 5 (9) (2) (D)

150-38-1567

230-48-5696

051-26-5880

JEK Act 5 (9) 12) 1D.

Yes

Yes

Yes

•Y e's

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

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NAME

Kirschstein, Fred

Mattox, Charles W.

Miller, Ellen

Oliphant, James B. F.

Paisner, Susan

Poor, Susan

Rushford, Gregory

Schafer, Michal A.

Scheiber, Josephine

Schroeher, Kathy

Sheketoff, Emily

Starek; Roscoe

Vermiere, Richard

Whieldon, Jeffrey

Yamamoto; Cheryl

Zeune, Sandra A.

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Social Security No.

442-46-1435

4.92-32-1209

JEK Act 5 (g) (2) (D

147-32-2375

JEK Act 5 (g) (2) (D)

147-34-4083

026-32-4085

575-58-4368

JEK Act 5 (9) (2) (D)

Briefed (SI, TK. & BYC)

Yes

Yes.

Yés

. Ye's

Yes

Yes

Yes

Y

e s.

• Yes

Y es

Yes

Yes

Y.e's

Yes

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OPTIONAL FORM NO. 10

MAY 1902 EDITION

5010-106

GSA GEN. REG. NO. 27

UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

Memorandum

Mr. W. R. WarnallWan

1 - Mr. J. J. McDermott

1 - MT.

W. R. Wannall

1 - Mr. W. O. Cregar

DATE: 12/4/75

TO

FROM

SUBJECT:

HOUSTUDY 75

Assoc. Day

*Dop. All Ad

Dop. AD Inv.

Asst. Dir.:

Admin.

Comp. Syst. _

Ext. Affairs

Files & Com. -

Gon. Inv. -

Idont. -

Inspection

Intell. -

Laboratory

Legal Coun.

Plan. & Eval.

Spec. Inv.

Training

Telophone Rm. -

Diroctor Soc'y _

Houstudy 75 is the code word assigned to the

control file containing communications pertaining to requests

made by the House of Representatives Select Committee on

Intelligence Activities.

By memorandum dated 6/11/75, captioned as above,

which was approved, it was recommended

that, for purposes of

sensitivity and urgency of handling, the Bureau file relating

to captioned matter be maintained in the work area of

personnel assigned to the Houstudy Project, Room 4063 JEH.

It is noted that the above arrangement must be reevaluated

and

recommendations submitted on a semiannual basis.

For reasons cited above, maintenance of the above

file in Room 4063 JEH has proven to be of invaluable assistance

to personnel assigned to that Project. It is recommended,

therefore, that the above arrangement be continued for an

additional six-month period or until such time as the Project

is discontinued, whichever: comes first.

RECOMMENDATION:

That this memorandum be forwarded to the Files and J

Communications Division for action requested above.

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STATEMENT OF ARTHUR MURTAGH

•. BEFORE

TH

•ELECT COMMITTEE

NOVEMBER 18, 1975 INTELL

GENCE

MR, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE:

I WELCOME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY BEFORE YOU, AS A

RETIRED FBI SPECIAL AGENT WHO LOYALLY SERVED THE BUREAU. FOR 20.

YEARS AND WHO. WAS ASSIGNED TO THE FBI'S INTERNAL SECURITY INTELLIGENCE

IS SQUAD IN ATLANTA FOR 10 YEARS, I WOULD HOPE I COULD GIVE THIS

COMMITTEE INSIGHT INTO THE BUREAU'S INTELLIGENCE.PRACTICES. NOT

FROM THE THEORETICAL VIEWPOINT OF A POLICY-MAKER BUT FROM THE •

PRACTICAL VIEWPOINT OF A FIELD AGENT.

THE THRUST OF MY COMMENTS WILL BE TO ATTEMPT TO HAVE YOU SEE

THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THE STRUCTURE OF AN ORGANIZATION SUCH AS

THE BUREAU TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MUCH WRONGDOING WITHOUT ANY

MEASURABLE. CULPABILITY ON THE PART OF INDIVIDUALS WORKING IN THE

LOWER LEVELS OF THE ORGANIZATION, FOR EXAMPLE; I WAS AT ONE TIME

ASKED TO OBTAIN THROUGH MY INFORMANTS HANDWRITING SAMPLES OF A 9E

GENTLEMAN WHO IS. NOW A MEMBER OF YOUR BODY, THE HONORABLE ANDREW

YOUNG OF ATLANTA. I WAS ALSO ASKED TO OBTAIN HANDWRITING SAMPLES

OF SEVERAL OF HIS ASSOCIATES IN DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING'S SOUTHERN

CHRISTIAN LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE, I WAS AN AGENT WITH LOTS OF

EXPERIENCE AT THE TINE THIS REQUEST CAME TO ME FROM MY SUPERVISOR

I WAS AWARE THAT THE MANNER, IN WHICH THE REQUEST WAS MADE WAS

THAT THE INFORMATION WAS TO BECUSED FOR

REC-41 602--

SUCH

ONE OF THE

'ILLEGAL PURPOSES

OF THE BUREAU.

NOT RECORDED

3 DER $ 1975

THE REQUEST WAS MADE AFTER REGULAR WORKING HOURS ORALLY TO:

ME IN PRIVATE, I TURNED TO MY SUPERVISOR WHO WAS KNOWN AMONG THE

AGENTS AS "COLONEL KLINK" AND TOLD •HIM THAT I FLATLY REFUSED TO

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COMPLY WITH HIS REQUEST AND THAT HE COULD TELL HIS COUNTERPART AF

THE BUREAU WHO HAD CALLED HIM ON THE WATCHLINE SEEKING THE

INFORMATION THAT I KNEW DAMN WELL IT WAS GOING TO BE USED IN AN.

UNRECORDED COUNTERINTELLIGENCE OPERATION TO DESTROY MR. YOUNG'S

CHANCES OF GETTING ELECTED TO THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. THE

REQUEST CAME ONLY A FEW DAYS AFTER MR. YOUNG HAD ANNOUNCED THAT.

HE WAS SEEKING A SEAT IN THE HOUSE.

MY SUPERVISOR'S REACTION WAS, "NOW DON'T GET EXCITED ART;

WE WILL MANAGE SOME OTHER WAY," AND I RESPONDED "I SUPPOSE YOU .

WILL." AND I TOLD HIM THAT IF HIS COUNTERPART AT THE BUREAU WANTED

TO FORCE THE ISSUE WE WOULD DO IT IN THE OPEN WITH LOTS OF PUBLICITY,.

THAT WAS THE LAST I HEARD OF THAT REQUEST FROM MY SUPERVISOR AND

I NOTICED LATER THAT MRi. YOUNG MADE IT TO YOUR AUGUST BODY. SO I .

MUST ASSUME THAT MY SUPERVISOR HAD NO OTHER SOURCE AT THAT TIME.

THAT COULD GET THE INFORMATION FOR HIM. YOU, OF COURSE, WILL FIND

NO RECORD OF THE ABOVE INCIDENT IN THE BUREAU FILES:

I AM COGNIZANT OF YOUR MANDATE TO INVESTIGATE. THE INTELLIGENCE

OPERATIONS OF THE BUREAU AND OF THE GREAT MASS OF INFORMATION THAT

HAS ALREADY BEEN UNCOVERED REGARDING THESE OPERATIONS, I BELIEVE,

HOWEVER, THAT A CLEAR AND PRECISE PICTURE OF THE BUREAU'S INTELLI-

GENCE PRACTICES CAN ONLY BE SEEN BY ANALYZING THE ADMINISTRATIVE.

STRUCTURE, THE ENTRENCHED BIASES AND THE PERVASIVE INDOCTRINATED

FBI MENTALITY THAT COMMANDS AND CONTROLS THEIR INTELLIGENCE PRACTICES,

IN THE INCIDENT. INVOLVING REPRESENTATIVE ANDREW YOUNG, IF THE

SAME REQUEST HAD BEEN MADE TO MOST AGENTS WHO HAD REACHED THE LEVEL:

IN THE BUREAU THAT I WAS AT THAT TIME, THEY WOULD HAVE ROUTINELY

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COMPLIED WITH THEIR SUPERVISOR'S REQUEST SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY

WOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH A PROCESS WHICH WOULD HAVE ELIMINATED

ALL THOSE WHO SAW ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE TYPE. OF ACTIVITY

CONTEMPLATED BY. THEIR SUPERVISOR, THE OFT TIMES EXPRESSED FEELINGS

OF ALL OF THE PERSONNEL WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH ME ON THE

INTELLIGENCE SQUAD IN ATLANTA DURING THE PERIOD THAT. THE YOUNG

INCIDENT TOOK PLACE ACCOUNTS FOR THE FACT THAT THE INFORMATION

• REQUESTED WOULD HAVE BEEN ROUTINELY OBTAINED, THE FEELING WAS

• THAT THE RACIAL MOVEMENTS IN WHICH MR. YOUNG WAS ENGAGED, ALTHOUGH

NOT ILLEGAL PER SE, WAS INIMICABLE TO THE VALUE STANDARDS. THAT THE

SQUAD MEMBERS SUBSCRIBED TO, IF IT TOOK. A LITTLE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY

TO COMPROMISE THE MOVEMENT, THEN SO BE IT, PAST EXPERIENCE HAD.

MADE IT CLEAR TO ALL AGENTS THAT MR, HOOVER HAD NO SYMPATHY WITH

ANY RACIAL MOVEMENT.

YOU MAY JUSTLY INQUIRE AT THIS JUNCTURE HOW I HAPPENED TO

SURVIVE IN THE BUREAU IF THESE SELECTION PROCESSES WEEDED THOSE IN

OPPOSITION OUT, THE ANSWER WAS AND IS THAT I WAS BOTH STUBBORN

AND SMART ENOUGH TO KEEP. MY RECORD GOOD AND CLEAR AND THOSE AROUND

.. ME KNEW IT. AS AN ATTORNEY AND SOMEONE WHO BELIEVED IN THE RULE :

OF LAW, I WOULDN'T CONFORM IF IT REQUIRED ME TO BE DISHONEST OR

TO VIOLATE THE LAW AND I KNEW THE LAW, I CAN SORROWFULLY SAY THAT

MY VIEWS WERE NOT SHARED BY MY PEERS IN THE BUREAU.

I JOINED THE FBI AS AN AGENT IN 1951 AND RETIRED IN 1971:

By 1957 THE WEAKNESSES IN THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUREAU HAD BECOME.

ALL TOO OBVIOUS TO ME, IN 1950 AS A RESULT OF ADMINISTRATIVE

ACTION TAKEN AGAINST ME BY MR, HOOVER, ON ACCOUNT OF AN ALLEGED

PROBLEM OF OVERWEIGHT, I FOUND MYSELF IN A YMCA ROOM IN MACON;

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GEORGIA AWAY FROM MY FAMILY FOR A PERIOD OF ABOUT FIVE MONTHS.

DURING THAT TIME I DID A GREAT DEAL OF SOULSEARCHING AND READING

• IN. AN EFFORT TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER I SHOULD LEAVE THE •

BUREAU AND ATTEMPT, TO EXPOSE THE WEAKNESSES IN STRUCTURE OR STAY

IN THE BUREAU AND WAIT FOR A MORE OPPORTUNE TIME WHEN THE PROBABILITY

OF SUCCESS IN CORRECTING THESE WEAKNESSES WOULD BE GREATER, • I

• DECIDED TO REMAIN AND OBSERVE BUT I RESOLVED THAT I WOULD UNDER

NO CIRCUMSTANCES PARTICIPATE IN ANY OF THE UNETHICAL OR ILLEGAL

ACTIVITIES THAT WERE BY THEN SO PREVALENT IN THE BUREAU,

I WAS ABLE TO OBSERVE FROM MY VANTAGE POINT IN THE. FBI THAT

THE BUREAU WAS ON A COLLISION COURSE OF COLLAPSE WHICH WOULD RESULT

IN CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION, AND I. SAID SO OPENLY AMONG AGENT

ASSOCIATES FROM 1960 ONWARD, I COUNSELLED WITH MANY, YES, PRACTICALLY

ALL, OF THE AGENT PERSONNEL WITH WHOM I CAME IN CONTACT AT THIS

TIME AND FOR THE REMAINING 11 YEARS THAT I SPENT IN THE BUREAU AND

FOUND THAT THEY WERE VAGUELY AWARE IN 1960 OF THE PROCESS OF

WHICH I SPEAK AND THEY WERE ACUTELY AWARE OF IT IN 1971.

THE INHERENT ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES WITHIN THE BUREAU WHICH

I HAVE ALLUDED TO BEFORE, WHICH ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BUREAU'S

INTELLIGENCE FUNCTIONS CAN BE SUMMARIZED AS FOLLOWS:

1. SECRECY

MR. HOOVER THREW A VEIL OF SECRECY OVER THE BUREAU AT

ITS VERY INCEPTION THOUGH THE GREAT MASS OF INFORMATION

HANDLED BY THE BUREAU COULD BE PLACED ON BILLBOARDS IN THE

MIDDLE OF TIMES SQUARE AND THE PUBLIC INTEREST WOULD NOT

BLOCK THE SIDEWALKS, BUT SECRECY SERVED MANY USEFUL PURPOSES

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TO THE BUREAU, IT MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE PUBLIC OR

CONGRESS TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON INTERNALLY.

IT GAVE THE BUREAU OPERATION AN AURA OF MYSTERY AND GENERATED

A TYPE OF FEAR AND. RESPECT FOR THE BUREAU WHICH I PERSONALLY

FEEL IS UNHEALTHY IN A SOCIETY THAT STRIVES TO BE BOTH

DEMOCRATIC AND OPEN,

II, . COMPLETE UNFETTERED CONTROL OF THE PROCESS OF SELECTING.

• PERSONNEL.

THIS IS THE AREA TO WHICH YOUR COMMITTEE SHOULD DIRECT

ITS GREATEST EFFORT, FOR IT WAS THROUGH A SELECTION PROCESS

EXEMPT FROM CIVIL SERVICE UNDER THE SOLE CONTROL OF THE

DIRECTOR THAT MR. HOOVER WAS ABLE OVER A PERIOD OF NEARLY

50 YEARS TO BRING IN THOUSANDS OF CAREFULLY SELECTED AGENT

PERSONNEL WHO WERE POLITICALLY DISPOSED TO THE RIGHT AS HE

WAS

AND THEN THROUGH A PERSONNEL SYSTEM; WHICH OFFERED NO

POSSIBILITY AT ALL FOR AN AGENT TO QUESTION HOOVER'S ETHICS.

AND METHODS, TO FORCE THOUSANDS OF THOSE SELECTED TO LEAVE

THE BUREAU IN UTTER DISGUST SIMPLY BECAUSE: THEY HAD NO

AVENUE THROUGH WHICH THEY COULD AIR GRIEVANCES INVCLYING

UNETHICAL OR ILLEGAL PRACTICES, FOR EXAMPLE, A YOUNG AGENT

WHOM I KNOW WAS SENT TO ALBANY, GEORGIA FOR HIS FIRST OFFICE:

HIS WIFE WAS A SOCIOLOGIST, SHE WAS OFFERED A POSITION IN .

THE HEAD START PROJECT IN ALBANY, GEORGIA THAT WAS UNDER THE

DIRECTION OF A BLACK ATTORNEY NAMED KING, THE AGENT REPORTED

THIS INFORMATION TO HIS SUPERIOR IN ALBANY. HE WAS IMMEDIATELY

SUMMONED TO ATLANTA BY THE AGENT IN CHARGE AND TOLD THAT HIS

WIFE COULD NOT TAKE THE JOB BECAUSE THEY DID NOT WANT FBI

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PERSONNEL OR THEIR WIVES ASSOCIATED WITH BLACKS WHO WERE •

ACTIVE IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENTS, THIS AGENT SUBSEQUENTLY

RESIGNED IN DISGUST,

11l.. MANIPULATION AND CONTROL OF THE PRESS:

THE EXAMPLES OF THIS SUBJECT ARE LEGION, THE ONE THAT I

AM MOST FAMILIAR WITH WAS THE CONCERTED EFFORT TO GET WHAT. _

WAS ALWAYS REFERRED TO IN THE BUREAU ÄS "OUR FRIENDS' IN THE

MEDIA" TO PUBLISH PERSONAL AND VERY PRIVATE INFORMATION TAKEN•

FROM THE WIRETAP WHICH ITSELF WAS OF QUESTIONABLE LEGAL •

VALIDITY ON DR, MARTIN LUTHER KING. OF COURSE, THE DẠY TO

DAY MANIPULATION WAS ACCOMPLISHED BY LEAKING CHOICE ITEMS TO

OUR "FRIENDS", IT WAS NOT AT ALL UNCOMMON TO LEARN OF SOME

POLITICALLY DAMAGING INFORMATION ABOUT SOME. LEADING FIGURE

IN POLITICS AS HAVING BEEN DEVELOPED BY THE BUREAU AND THEN

ALWAYS AT A TIME WHEN IT WOULD BE MOST DAMAGING TO THE

INDIVIDUAL, THE INFORMATION WOULD SOME WAY SHOW UP IN THE

CHICAGO IRIBUNE OR SOME OTHER FRIEND OF THE BUREAU. IF THE

INFORMATION WAS MORE VALUABLE FOR PURPOSES OF POLITICAL

BLACKMAIL. BY HOLDING IT, THAN BY GIVING IT TO THE PRESS, IT

WAS WITHHELD, THE LEAKED INFORMATION ALWAYS SEEMED TO INVOLVE

PERSONS OF LIBERAL PERSUASION, (FROM MY YEARS IN THE BUREAU'S

I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT THE BUREAU HAD DEDUCED THAT PERSONS

OF LIBERAL PERSUASION ARE SOMEHOW MORE APT TO SLEEP: WITH.

SOMEBODY ELSE'S WIFE, DRINK TOO MUCH. LIQUOR, OR BE SEXUALLY

PERVERTED THAN ARE SOLID CONSERVATIVES.)

IV. ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY AT THE TOP AND BLIND LOYALTY AT THE

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BOTTOM AIDED BY THE SELECTION PROCESS,

THIS QUESTION OF LOYALTY IS INTERESTING SINCE, OF COURSE,

WE ALL LIKE OUR FRIENDS TO BE LOYAL TO US AND WE RESPECT

IT AS A QUALITY. IN MAN, THE NATERGATE HEARINGS WERE

PARTICULARLY INFORMATIVE ON THIS POINT AS YOU WILL RECALL.

EACH OF THE WITNESSES WHO WERE IMPLICATED IN WRONGDOING IN

WATERGATE OPENED THEIR STATEMENTS WITH A BIT ON LOYALTY AND

WENT ON TO TELL EVENTUALLY HOW IN THE NAME OF LOYALTY. THEY

HAD VIOLATED THE LAW, THE BUREAU HAS ITS PARALLEL IN THIS

CONCEPT OF BLIND LOYALTY, PERSONNEL HAVE BEEN WILLING TO •

FOREGO THEIR OWN INTEGRITY TO ALLOW IMPROPER, UNETHICAL, OR

ILLEGAL ACTIVITY BY THE BUREAU TO GO ON UNCHALLENGED RATHER

THAN INJURE THE BUREAU BY A PUBLIC ATTACK WHICH MANY REGARD

AS DISLOYAL TO THE BUREAU,

V. HARSH DISCIPLINARY MEASURES.

THE HARSH DISCIPLINARY MEASURES WHICH WERE THE HALLMARK

OF MR. HOOVER'S PERSONNEL POLICY ARE TOO EXTENSIVE TO GO

INTO AT LENGTH HERE, THEY SOMETIMES RESULTED IN HUMOROUS

SITUATIONS BUT VERY OFTEN IN VERY TRAGIC SITUATIONS, BY

THE MID-1960'S THESE HARSH DISCIPLINARY MEASURES HAD SO

ERODED CONFIDENCE IN HOOVER AMONG THE AGENT PERSONNEL THAT.

THE POLICY OF "IELL THE MAN NOTHING" HAD REACHED A POINT

WHERE INFORMATION COULD ACTUALLY GET. INTO THE HANDS OF BUREAU

SUPERVISORS AND

¡IT STILL WOULD NOT GET TO HOOVER BECAUSE THE :

HARSHNESS OF THE DISCIPLINARY ACTION MADE THE INTEGRITY OF

ALL AGENTS VERY PLIABLE,

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IN A DEMOCRACY, DOMINATION OF A POWERFUL ORGANIZATION SUCH

AS THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION BY ANY SEGMENT OF THE

POLITICAL SPECTRUM THREATENS THE VERY EXISTENCE OF DEMOCRACY,

THE PROCESS.

RESULTS IN THE ORGANIZATION BEING USED TO AID THE

POLITICAL AND PHILOSOPHICAL FRIENDS OR CAUSES. OF. THE LEADER AND TO

NEUTRALIZE ANY OPPOSITION,

MR. HOOVER'S VENDETTA AGAINST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING ILLUSTRATES

THIS PROCESS IN A GRAPHIC MANNER,

I SUBMIT THAT THE FBI NOW CONSTITUTES A DEGENERATE DICTATOR-

SHIP IN WHICH THE STRUCTURE STILL REMAINS BUT FROM WHICH PUBLIC

SUPPORT IS RAPIDLY BEING WITHDRAWN, 1 FURTHER SUBMIT THAT SUCH A

• DICTATORSHIP IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONCEPTS UPON

WHICH THIS NATIONAL WAS FOUNDED, I FEEL THAT THIS CAN BE HISTORICALLY

PARALLELED WITH THE ASCENSION OF OTHER DICTATORSHIPS THROUGHOUT THE

WORLD,

I RECOMMEND THAT ANY REFORM WHICH YOU CONSIDER DEAL DIRECTLY

WITH EACH OF THE POINTS I MENTIONED IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE

PROCESS BUT I URGE YOU TO GIVE PARTICULARLY CAREFUL ATTENTION TO

THE PROCESS OF AGENT SELECTIONS

IN ORDER TO INSURE AGAINST RE-ESTABLISHMENT OF UNCONTROLLABLE

• POWER WITHIN THE BUREAU 1 WOULD SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING:

1, SEEK THE REMOVAL OF ALL ENTRENCHED PERSONNEL INCLUDING

THE DIRECTOR AS QUICKLY AS IS PRACTICAL, (NOT IN A -

VINDICTIVE MANNER, BUT FOR THE GOOD OF THE SERVICE,)

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2. ESTABLISH A SYSTEM BY WHICH LINE LEVEL PERSONNEL CAN •

REPORT UNETHICAL OR ILLEGAL ACTIVITY WITHIN THE BUREAU

TO AN OUTSIDE CONTROL AGENCY, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME

CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTIONS INVOLVED, I WOULD RECOMMEND

THAT THE CONTROL AGENCY BE UNDER. THE JUDICIARY, THUS

EXTENDING THE CONCEPT OF CHECKS AND BALANCES, AND THAT

THE TIME NECESSARY FOR SETTING UP HEARINGS AND RESOLVING

DIFFICULTIES BE EXTREMELY. SHORT, MAYBE AS LITTLE AS

SEVEN DAYS SO THAT CORRUPTIVE PROCESSES COULD NOT GET

STARTED..

3. THAT ALL PERSONNEL WORKING WITHIN THE AGENCY AND ALL NEW

PERSONNEL WORKING WITHIN THE AGENCY BE REQUIRED TO ATTEND

INSTRUCTIONAL CLASSES GIVEN BY VARIOUS EDUCATIONAL

INSTITUTIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. IN WHICH THE RIGHTS AND

DUTIES OF BUREAU EMPLOYEES WOULD BE THOROUGHLY TAUGHT SO

THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE PEOPLE LIKE JIM MCCORD IN THE

WATERGATE SITUATION TELLING THE SENATE IN YEARS TO COME

THAT HE THOUGHT THAT WHAT WAS OBVIOUSLY ILLEGAL COULD BE

MADE LEGAL BY THE FLICK OF A PEN BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

4, LEGISLATE THE PROCESS OF AGENT SELECTION IN SUCH A WAY

THAT FUTURE PERSONNEL WOULD REPRESENT THE FULL SPECTRUM

OF AMERICAN SOCIETY INSTEAD OF ONLY A NARROW SEGMENT AS

IT NOW DOES. EITHER REDUCE THE PAY OF AGENT PERSONNEL

OR ESTABLISH EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR ADMISSION THAT

WOULD JUSTIFY THE CURRENT HIGH-PAY STANDARDS, I WOULD

PREFER THAT THE STANDARDS BE MADE HIGHER AND LEAVE THE

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5, LEGISLATE CONTROLS REGARDING THE RELEASE OF INFORMATION

FROM THE BUREAU WHICH WILL PREVENT THE BUREAU FROM US-ING

THE WEALTH OF INFORMATION IT COLLECTS AT GOVERNMENT

EXPENSE AS A MEANS OF PRESS MANIPULATION. (IF QUINN MARTIN

PRODUCTIONS CAN EXAMINE BUREAU RECORDS AND PRODUCE

TELEVISION PLAY AS THEY DID IN THE PHILADELPHIA-MISSISSIPPI

CASE AND; AS I BELIEVE, DISTORT THE TRUE PICTURE IN AN

EFFORT TO PROTECT THE BUREAU IMAGE, THEN I FEEL THESE

RECORDS SHOULD BE THROWN OPEN TO ALL OF THE MEDIA TO DO

WITH AS THEY CHOOSE IN THE INTEREST OF PROTECTING THE

FIRST AMENDMENT®) YOU HAVE HERE A CASE OF INVERSE ABRIDGE-

MENT OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, PROHIBIT THE PRACTICE

OF ALLOWING THE DIRECTOR TO USE BUREAU FACILITIES TO

• PONTIFICATE THROUGH THE GUISE OF NEWS RELEASES IN WHICH

HE NEVER SUBMITS TO CROSS EXAMINATION BY, THE PRESS, IT

SEEMS THAT MR. KELLEY HAS MODERATED THIS EVIL TO SOME

EXTENT, BUT IF YOU DON'T PROHIBIT THE PRACTICE THROUGH

LEGISLATION, HE OR A FUTURE DIRECTOR, ONCE THEY FEEL MORE

SECURE WOULD UNDOUBTEDLY FALL BACK ON THIS ODIOUS PRACTICE,

• THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

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