COMMENTS ON GEORGE DE MOHRENSCHILDT
Originator: CIA
From: RUSSELL B. HOLMES
Document date: 04/07/1977
Document type: PAPER - TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

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2022 RELEASE UNDER THE PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY ASSASSINATION RECORDS ACT OF 1992

7 April 1977

MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD

SUBJECT :

Comments on George de Mohrenschildt

"Reputed Former CIA Agent"

REFERENCE: Memo for the Record, dated 4 April 1977

1: In a UPI article (see Tab A) published in the

Washington Star of 4 April 1977, George de Mohrenschildt

is referred to as a "reputed former CIA agent."

This

remark is a misinterpretation of the facts by the writer

of the article.

A review of the de Mohrenschildt file

reveals that de Mohrenschildt had provided information, in

December 1957, to a CIA representative in Dallas, Texas, IT

response to the latter's request;

on his trip to Yugoslavi:

in 1957 on behalf of the International Cooperation Agency

(ICA) •

This action does not make de Mohrenschildt a "CIA

agent,"

rather, it

makes him an unpaid informant.

The circumstances pertaining to CIA's interest in

de Mohrenschildt's knowledge of conditions in Yugoslavia

are set forth in the following paragraphs.

2.

On 3 June 1964, the Agency forwarded to J. Lee

Rankin, General Counsel,

President's Commission on the

Assassination of President Kennedy; the following intorma-

tion on George de Mohrenschildt.

"1.

Reference is made to your memorandum of

31 March 1964 requesting any information on George

and Jeanne de Mohrenschildt that is available to

CIA files. Our review shows that the files contain

reports received from other U.S. Government agencies,

primarily the FBI, as well as

some information de-

veloped by this Agency in 1957 and 1958. The review

also produced references to information and the Office

of Strategic Services.

According to the records of

those agencies, George de Mohrenschildt had been con-

sidered for employment in 1942, but was

not hired

because he was alleged to be a Nazi espionage agent.

No information developed by CIA or its predecessors

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before the assassination of President Kennedy had

established any link between de Mohrenschildt and

Lee Harvey Oswald and his family.

"i2. CIA's initial interest in George de

Mohrenschildt developed as a result of his sojourn

in Yugoslavia in 1957 on behalf of the International

Cooperation Agency (ICA). In that connection CIA

headquarters sent a routine advisory to its Dallas

representative who called on the de Mohrenschildt's

contact with the de Mohrenschildt's until the autumn

of 1961: He has not seen them since that time, although

he received a Christmas card from them during the holiday

period following the assassination.

"3.

On the 23rd or 24th of November 1963, after

the assassination, our representative in Dallas re-

ceived a telephone call from one of his contacts who

told him that several members of his firm had attended

a social or a discussion group in January 1963 and that

Lee Harvey Oswald had also been there.

Our repre-

sentative immediately arranged for the FBl to contact

the executive.

It was later ascertained from the FBl,

and from one of our sources, that George de Mohrenschildt

was present at the meeting and had introduced Oswald to

the group.

"4. At CIA headquarters the association between the

de Mohrenschildt's and the Oswald's was noted for the

first time in December 1963 when it was reported from

Haiti that the de Mohrenschildt's had appeared at the

Embassy and volunteered information about their rela-

At about the same time the

details of their association began to appear in reports

made by other U.S: Government agencies engaged in in-

vestigating the assassination.

"5. During the contact with George de Mohrenschildt

late in 1957 and 1958, his

background was investigated.

Inquiries

produced a considerable amount of information

about him

and his activities, including allegations

that during World War II he had engaged in espionage

activities on behalf of the Nazis; that he was a member

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of the Communist Party; and that after the war he

was sympathetic toward Communism and the U.S.S.R.

The investigation was extended to Belgium where

George de Mohrenschildt claimed to have lived from

1930 until 1938.

His educational background and his

work as a journalist were confirmed there.

One record

of arrest came to light: on 4 November 1931 he was

sentenced by the Tribunal Correctionnel at Antwerp to

eight days in prison on charges of resisting a police

officer and to eight days imprisonment of a fine of

132 francs on charges of drunkenness and use of a false

Sentence was suspended pening completion of a

three-year probationary period.

"6. Throughout his adult life, George de

Mohrenschildt has used variations of his basic name,

including such variants as Jerry de Mohrenschildt;

Jerzey von Mohrenschildt; George von Mohrenschild;:

and George Sergius de Mohrenschild. In like manner he

also seems to have varied his former ethnic origin from

Russian, to Polish, Swedish, Danish, and German.

There

appear to be two versions of his mother's maiden name:

Alexandra Latoskey and Alexandra Zapolski.

FBI Special Agent James F. Morrissey came to

CIA on 19 March 1964 and reviewed this Agency's files

on the de Mohrenschildt's.

"8. On 17 March 1964 the FBI furnished to this

Agency a report dated 28 February 1964.

The report pro-

vides details about one Yuri (George) de Mohrenschild's

contact with Fedor Alekseevich Garanin, who was a Soviet

diplomat in Washington, D.C., in 1946.

In that report

Yuri (George de Mohrenschild

was described

as a petro-

leum engineer who had worked in the Texas oil fields

and in Venezuela. Concerning Garanin, our records show

that he has been a member of the Soviet State Security

Service probably since the mid-1940's.

He served in

Cuba in 1943; after World War II he also served in the

U.S.. Hungary, and finland.

According to our records.

the intormation about Garanin and his association witi

the Soviet State Security Service has also been known

to the FBI.

"9.

You may also wish to make inquiries at the

Office of Naval Intelligence; the Assistant Chief of

Staff, Intelligence, Department of the Army; the Depart-

ment of State; and the Civil Service Commission because

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these departments also have information about

George de Mohrenschildt."

(Comment: This document was released under the FOI Act

with portions deleted.

The deleted portions include in-

formation which was received from a foreign liaison service

as well as information which might tend to identify an

Agency source, information which originated with the FBI

which the FBI will discuss directly with the requester, in-

formation identifying an FBl special agent, information

identifying Agency components, as well as information

relating

The deletions were

made under the

(b) (2),

3. As indicated above, the Agency was interested in

obtaining reports from de Mohrenschildt in 1957 relating to

his trip to Yugoslavia on behalf of the International Coopera-

tion Agency (ICA).

Contact Division (now Domestic Collection

Division - DCD) had its representative in Dallas, J. Walton

Moore, contact de Mohrenschildt.

The history of

Moore's

relationship with de Mohrenschildt from 1957 to 1961 IS

attached under Tab.C. In his testimony taken on 23 April 1964

at 200 Maryland Avenue NE, Washington, D.C:, by Mr. Albert E.

assistant counsel of the

President's Commission,

de Mohrenschildt described his contact with Walter Moore,

whom he referred to as G. Walter Moore [sic - J. Walton Moorej.

De Mohrenschildt's statement concerning Moore is contained

on page 235 of Volume IX of the Hearings before the President's

Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy. A copy

of page 235 is attached under Tab D.

4. As a routine action, Moore requested traces on

de Mohrenschildt..

The traces (see Tab E) contained sufficient

derogatory information to preclude further extensive con-

tact with the de Mohrenschildt's. A summary of information

on de Mohrenschildt from the Office of Security appears

under Tab F.

5.

Conclusion:

George de Mohrenschildt was never a

"recruited agent" of the Central Intelligence Agency.

For

approximately four years (1957 - 1961), a representative of

the Agency had had a periodic contact with de Mohrenschildt

for the purpose of obtaining overt information which the

latter obtained during his travels abroad. These contacts

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were not clandestine nor did such contacts involve the

clandestine procurement of secret foreign intelligence:

So far as the Agency knows, de Mohrenschildt provided in-

formation in response to Moore's request as a patriotic

gesture; without thought of monetary gain.

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TAB A

4 APR 1977

Daughter Denies

Oswald Friend

Feared Testrying

AWEST PALM BEACH, Fla, (UPI)

The daughter of a Russian emigre

language teacher who killed himself

Tuesday has denied that her, father

reared being called upon to testify be;

congressional inquiry into the

assags

ination Of President John :F.

Kenned

2:0t

the weekend that her fa.

there George de, Mohrenschildt, was

physically afraid of

tWillem Oftmans

Olt:

lat told him

consplacy with

Oswald to

Kili Kennedy

a November 196319942

news. conference: called t

tmans't statements, she

completely contrary to

neard my ratier say.

then had anything to

sassination of-Presi

that my father had

ith masterminding

nation, 's completely.con-

to anyth

ing he said to me

g remotely like that,& she said

Mobrenschilde shot. himsel

" hour

in

after learning, an

estigator for the assassinations.

commit

a tease pled to see him

Committee members havende

scribed

"Mohrenschildt, a French

teacher'at Dallas' Bishop College and

a reputed former: CIA agent.

"crucial witness.14v m%.

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The

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said her

Lather

"not afraid or upset?

about the possi

bility of testifying

because in

1964 he told everything he. knew

about the assassination to the War

ren commission, laz to Tadaa.

de: Mohren-

schildt was

Howevers "just terrified" of: Olf:

mans..

"He felt he had been drugged

In Amsterdam (where Oltmans inter

viewed him" for Dutch television).

And he was afraid that Mrs. Oltman

was trying to make him do and say

things he had never done.

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TAB B

MORANDIN TOZ: ME- J Lea Raskia

Prosidust's comorlssion du tba

Marranization el Presicons Fosszat.

SUBIZEI

sent to WaRher CommIssIon

1. Raiarenco is maio lo pour somarandes of si hasco

1951 sequesting Jay halo maios 0a GAorgs 21d Jadsta DS

MORENSCALDI (le is aralladio la Cla fles. Das series

Buona that the flles contais reparto recaivad isaa a1bes Il.S.

Lortasios developed by this Agasey is 1957 azd 1959. Ibe

serian sito proincai rierences to inlasmation in lie records

ergitan. Anessdiag to le toturia Di ibore agencies, Geosi

DE JOERTASCHILDI bad bene considerad los esployaneai 1a

1543. Dut san 5et hired baczuse be saa allajad ta ba a Nazi

caplosaga ageal. No intarmation devaloped by CIA (o5 1i7

predecossa s) boioza the 29115tlaatlas of Frasidan: Ilansery

asd antablisbod any link batteen ths De MCHRSNSCHILDIS

aSá INN EATHOY OSSALD oI bis faraily.

2. CIA'S Litial LITeTeSt la GADIgE IN MCERENSCHHEDI

catejopoi as a 593011 01 his sojoura is Ingoslavia ia 1957 on

Riball of the Interzallocal Couperattos iguaay (ICA). Ii ibat

CONNAtiOn GIÀ DERIqUATOIA JeEt a IDItiRA SÁViZATY IO 113

Dallay sapragentativa so callad as tha Da liCHIRINSCilLIIs

in tbe early past of Iletamber 1957. In the SEnTae Di sayaral

ragetingi la ClÀ representalive abialaeu foreiga iniciligasca

micà mas prosastly disseminatee su oier ierieral sgencias in

se# separale rejue?s, The Dallas repiarentzlive conliniau

; COr!

Dorrei timiser 18- 522

for FO:A Raview on

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until zan autisan of 1961 Ha bas tot seen thars stace that Hezi,

althongà ba recoiral a Caristoas card Iron Eassa duriay lito

holiday period taliotag is aonsistration

3. Da tba Lisa dyIits ol Noysicades 1953, altar tie

asaanizallos, our represeatativa la dallas recried a rola-

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bad astondad a social 0s = diseasaion.

550Kp LA Januasy 1963 and 1at LAO ENrUY CSTALD bed ilso

P3S 19 CORtIES IDA SOURCE i IS UNs latas ascartaised !

DO 2'AL, SAL 25010 SON DE DAT ONA SNATCAS, tRaS GRONIE Le

MOSRUNS ROT Was preseal az the meetias and bad iniso-

•CUEAd ESHALD tO tS ESDrO.

= At cars hazza 2a13 tho association botager tse

15as tizo in Datesabes 1941 wara 18 was rapestad 1500s Falts

no talsatoa595 (10ra10n about tunts raLationubin alia tar

ASTAINS. At abost the zare koen the datallo of teals srion

ciation bagas ta 2p9945 la ¿eports bada by siza, 1. 5, Govara

I, DATing iSe CoRtact WitS GeUrgA De MGHREDSCHILNT

lata 1s 1957 and casty 1938, bis sacigzonad nas laventigatzd..

Isgalties protaced a conalderablo anocas of lafozmation about..

bios and bis activitios, iscinday allagations toat dartag fasla

Max Il bo bad engaged is espionage activizia sa beball of the

Navia; that ho was i mambor of the Consualas Partyi and thas

añtar ise war ba mas sympaisotis tonard Comeauzizon and tho

0.9.5.3. Ibe levastigasion was estrarod lo Belglora wbaro

GOOgO DE LICHRENSCEILDI CisiTed to hava liTed iTora 1930

sott 1933. Fis tigertonal baelgrasso and his sork as a

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6. Faroughat bis anis llla, Georgo Do MOEBENCHILDI

bas son tarlatana al sis bazie samo, includlag suci rarisata as

Von 3107251505140; dad Gaose SurglEs do MOIRATiSCalLs.

Is lika sanaas sa also Anema to bare farind his larIzes attai

Tansa appeas ls be toro varators di bis motzar"s snaties sosa:

Alesandra LATOSINI abul Aluzandra ZAPOLSI

F31 Special Agent. !.

- sania to

CIA da 19 barch 1965 and Toread Dis Agency's Alet de tsa

8. 0017 (8716à1985150 YBY fursisberito this Agasty a

rapors dated 28 Fabraasy 1964

9. You tany also trish to sanice ingalzias at the Ofileo of

Naval Injolligenco, ta Asalstass Calai di Stall, Istalligento.

Department of the Armayi tha Depirtness of Strtal and tar Civil

Servico Gumission beezase thasa copartaanis alto bave trica-

mallon abor: Goorge Do MOHRANSUTIDI.

Distribution:

Orig.

- Actressee

Richase Hal5zzs

Deputy Direstay 1o5 Wlans

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1 May 64

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Acting Chief, Contact Division (Direct)

3 Support

Dallas Resident Agency

Нем. Сазо 43259

MICRÖFILMED

•APR 7 1969

DOC. MICRO, SER.

REF

.: Headquartera Memo 20 Apr. 64

• Details of J. Walter MOORE's contact with Geirge

De Mohrenschildt from 1957 to 1961i (MOORE: from:

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Dallas office

:1o I tave kaous-George do Mahrenschildt and hia nifa since 1357.

My latest actual contact with them was In the fall of 1961, altbough I

raceived a Christaas card fros then during Christnas of 1983. The card

mulled Fron Port-at Prime and a copy of ey islayoffent is attached.

•Duncanville,

ETI-UJA occ-businessman

2.. After our late President's assassination, either

on the 23d

ox 24th of November 1959, I rechired a telephone call iron(Dr.) Paul

Reichertz, Diractor of the socony Mobil Research Laboratory at.

DUncanville*

Texas. Di. Reichertz advised that members of his staff had attended sons

kind of social or discusalon group in January 1963 at which tee larvey.

Dawald was present..

do sention was made at this tina of Goorge de Mobrer-

schildt. I taid Dr. Raichertz ho should report this inforsation to the

local office of the FBI and he replied that he knew no one in the Dallas.

office of the FBI and asked if I would pass the inforaation along for him.

I called the FBI and they said thay would send somebody out to talk to

Dr. Reichertz: I nade no affort to folion up on the natter with Paul

good contactiof mine for many years, she advised that she had heard that

da Mohrenschildt had befriendud usuald after his arrival la Dallas and

had introduced hin to a study group on the USSR.

«IT-USA occibrarian

*Duncanillay Thrada SAtset usth de Hohrenschlat was the result of

a scurce load from headquarters, dated 22 Noy 57, advining that George

do Hohrenschildt had recantly raturned to dallas after spanding approxi

natoly a year in lugoslavia on a job fox the IlA. I called on de Mobren

schildt in early December 1957 and submitted a nane check, dated 6 Dee 57.

de Hobrens hildt gave us a copy of standard personal history

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At this tine I san and not Hrs. Jan de Mohrenschildt, à uhito Russian

emigres from Shanghal. I saw the de Hotrenschildt'a several tines in 1958

and 1959. In Late 1959 or early 1960, Mr. and Hrs. do Mobrenschildt went

on an 18 sonth biking trip tbrough Mexico and Central Ameries.

An account

of thia trip, as taken fron the 1ß Oct 61 issue of the Dallas Tines Hetald,

18 anclosedo:

In the way of a personal assassent,. I would say that the

de Monrenschilat's are an interasting and unaval couplo.

This 13. I

ballove,. the second narrlage for both of thes. Mrs. de Hobrenschildt,

who bas been a successiul dress designer, has a eron, sarried daughter.

uho is quite a fise artlat. George de Mohrenschilit has several childran

by his first wifs (reportedly a vary wealthy touan now living is the

Middle East), One of his chiliran died of cystic fibrosis and George

de Hohrenschildt has always boan very aetive in the jearly cystic fibrosis

fudd raistas campaiga.

5a Georgo do Hobranschilat nakes a good apperzancs. He is

about six foot tall and raighs around 190 pounds. For a nas his age,.:

approvisately 53, he keeps biaself la 800d condition and la a bit of a

pbysical fitness sat.

Ho Is a modorate drinker and unen I last sas.

him, saoked & pipo.. I Hould dascribe his personality da frendly and out-

going although I have heard him raferred to as concoited. le reputedly:

has an aye for the ladles and I understand his interast doos not fo

unrociprocatodi la loads a sonathat unconventional life, plays teralis

at 5 o'clock in the morning, ha ls rather outspoker, has a seen interast

in intorpational affairs and in social justice, ly local conservative

stardaris, he mould be considered a libaral. Ills outlook on lifa la

continental.

De Mohrenschildt lo fairly wall known in petralaun clrclos

fa Dallas.

1 only know of one good friend of hiao This is (Col. luNrence

Orlov (Retired) who is in the oil leusins Dusinesso The colonel and 1

both play handball. He mentioned the last tian I san hin that de lobren

schildt wantod his to come to fuiti to belp hin run a plantazion and

organize a company there. I believe that the de Mohrenschilde's left.

fox Halti In about February of 1963 but I an very vague on this point.

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SIr. JENNER, Well, this is September of 1962.

JIT. DE MORENSCHILDI. 1962, sure.

They were out of my mind. I forgot the

isralds.

JIr. JENNER. No; 1962, sir.

SIr. DE DIOHRENSCHILDI. No, no.

Now the Oswalds were out of my mind.

Ir. JENNER. You mean you have not been thinking about them.

Jr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; I have not been thinking about them.

Jay I say a few things here that I remember? As I told you before, we met

the Oswalds through Bouhe, and then we talked about them to Max Clark, and

again to Bouhe.

And I asked hir.

Boube "Do you think it is safe for us to

beip Oswald?":

JIr. JENNeR. You did have that conversation.

SIr. DE MOHRENSOHILDI.. Yes.

Mr. JeNNeR. Why did you raise that question?

SIT. DE MOHBENCHILDY. I raised the question because he had been to Soviet

Russia

He could be anything, you see. And he could be right there watched

das and night by the FBI. I did not want to get involved, you see. And I

distinctly remember, No. 1, that George Bouhe said that he had checked with

the FBI. Secondly, that in my mind Max Clark was in some way connected

with the FBI, because he was chief of security at Convair-he had been a chief

of security. And elther George Bonhe or someone else told me that he is with

the FBI to some extent. You never ask people "Are you from the FBI?" And

to me it is unimportant. But somehow in my mind I had this connected. And

so my fears were alleviated, you see.

I said, "Well, the guy seems to be OK."

Now, I am not so clear about it, but I have the impression to have talked-to

hare asked about Lee Oswald also Mr. Moore, Walter Moore.

SIr. JENNER. Who is Walter Moore?

JIr. De MOHENsOHILD. Walter Moore is the man who interviewed me on

behalf of the Government after I came back from Yugoslavia-G. Walter Moore.

He is a Government man-elther FBI or Central Intelligence.

A very nice

fellow, exceedingly intelligent who is, as far as I know-Was some sort of an

FBI man in Dallas. Many people consider him head of FBI in Dallas. Now,

I don't know.

Who does you see.

But he is a Government man in some

capacity. He interviewed me and took my deposition on my stay in Yugoslavia,

what I thought about the political situation there. And we became quite friendly

after that.. We saw each other from time to time, had lunch. There was a

mutual interest there, because I think he was born in China and my wife was

born in China. They had been to our house I think once or twice. I Just found

him a very interesting person.

When I was writing this book of mine, a very

peculiar incident occurred.

SIr. JenNer. Which book?

JI. De MOHRENsOHILoT. The last one the travelogue. One day we left for

Houston on a business trip, and I left all my typewritten pages, some 150 type-

"ritten pages, in my closet. When I returned from the trip and started looking

through the pages, which had not been touched, supposedly, by anybody I

noticed small marks on the pages "No. 1' after five pages, "2"-small marks

with a pencil, another Ave pages, No. 8; and so on and so forth.

I told my wife "Jeanne, have you fiddled around with my book?" She said,

"Of course not." I said, "That's impossible."

And I forgot it for a while.

In the evening we got back home, and we stayed in bed, and all of a sudden

the idea came back to me that somebody must have been in my apartment and

checked my book and read through that and took photographs.

And it was such

a horrible idea that Jeanne and I just could not sleep all night. And the next

morning we both of us went to see Walter Moore and told him, "Now, look

what happened to us. Have you Government people"-and I think I asked him

point blank, you know- "Have you FBI people looked through my book?" He

said, "Do you consider as such fools as to leave marks on your book if we had?

But we haven't." I said, "Can't you give me some protection against somebody

who has?" He said,

"Do you have any strong enemies?".

I said,

"Well, I

Possibly have. Everybody has enemles." But I never could igure out who it was.

dnd it is still a mystery to me.

So I am not so sure whether I asked point blank Clark or Walter Moore

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about Oswald. I probably spoke to both of them about him. My recollection

is, and also my wife's recollection is, that either of them said he is a harmles

lunatic. Later on Max got disgusted with him and said that he is a no-good

b-.---d, a traitor, and so on and so forth. But by that time we already forgot

Ostrald-got Oswald out of your lives, you see. This is one point.

The second point is as you can see the whole of the Russian colony in Dallas

were interested in Oswald one way or the other, because they represented

somebody who had been to their old country just recently, and could give

them the latest information on what was going on. As I said, the old guard

were naturally against them right away.. The others were just curious. Bur

this particular couple, Natasha and Igor Voshinin, refused to see them.

I insisted sereral times, "Why don't you see them?

You love all the Russians

Why don't you meet Marina Oswald?" And she said, "We don't want to, and

'e bare our reasons for not meeting them." And it kept on in my mind, 1

did not want to raise that question. But why didn't they want to meet them?

Mr. JENNER. Well, tell me what is your speculation as to why they did nos

want to meet them?

Mr. DE MORRENSCHILDT. I do not have the slightest idea. Maybe they knew

something about Oswald, of some connection.

Mr. JEnNeR. Or maybe they were alarmed, and didn't want to take ans

chances.

Mr. DE MOHRENBCHILDT. Maybe just that.

Mr. JeNNER But they were pretty firm in not having any trafic with them.

MIr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Absolutely firm. The only ones. Maybe they were

Just more recently arrived in the United States and they were not so secure

like we were, you see. And possibly they were just alarmed of meeting some

body who just came from Soviet Russia.

Mr. JENNER. I think I will ask you at this point, Mr. De Mohrenschildt, you

are a man of very superior education and estremely wide experience and ar

quaintance here and in Europe, South America, West Indies you have lired

an extremely colorful life.

You are acquainted to a greater or lesser degree

with a great variety of people.

NIT. DE ATOHRENSCHILDI. Yes.

NIr. JeNNeR. Did there go through your mind speculations as to whether

Oswald was an agent of anybody?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. NO.

Mr. JekNer. Why?

Before I put it. that way-when you say "No," am I

correct in assuming that you thought about the subject and you concluded he

was not an agent of anybody? Is that what you meant?

Mr. De MOHlENSCHILD. I never thought even about it. I will tell you why

I thought he never was-because he was too outspoken.

He was too outspoken

in his ideas and his attitudes. If he were really-if he were an agent, I

thought be would bave kept quiet. This would be my idea.

Mr. JeNNEr. You say he was outspoken. What do you base that on?

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. For instance, he showed me his he discussed very

freely with me, when he showed me his little memoirs.

MI. JENNER. I am going to show you those papers in a little while.

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDI.

Those memoirs I think are very sincere. They ex-

plain more or less the sincere attitude of a man, sincere opinion of a man.

Mr. JENNeR. Before I show you any papers, I want you to finish this reasoning

of yours.

Mr. DE MOHRENsCHILD. I did not take him seriously- that is all,

Mr. JENNer. I know you didn't. Why didn't you?

MI. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well-

Mr. JeNner. You are a highly sophisticated person.

Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILD. Well, he was not sophisticated, you see. He was a

semieducated hillbilly. And you cannot take such a person seriously.

All his

opinions were crude, you see.

But I thought at the time he was rather sincere.

Mr. JenNer. Opinion sincerely held, but crude?.

Mr. DE MOIRENSCHILDT. Yes.

MI. JENNER. He was relatively uneducated.

MT. DE MOHRENSCHILDI. Oh, yes.

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(When Fit

DATE

INTEROFFICE MENORANDUM

FROM:

5, Contact Division, 00

Chief, Personnel Security Division, 'OS

de MCHPENSCH IDI, George

AKA: TOn SCHRENSCH ILUT, George Sergius

- 68221

#775-

Reference is made to your request for a security clearance on the subject

as a potential source of intelligence information.

The necessary checks have

leted with the following results: •

No additional information has been obtained, except for such

biographic infornation as indicated below or in the attachment.

b. Information has been received that subject was investigated with

favorable results in

c. [ Certain information has been received and appears In the attachment

which your Division will wish to consider in determining the extent

and level of your use of Subject.

2.. It is to be noted that our checks were made on the basis of the identifying

ion you furnished or In an attachment to this mémoranaum. Should it be dis-

that this infornation is erroneous or that subject is knowa by a different name,

vision sbould be notified Immediately.

W, Mo. Knott

Chief, Personnel Security Division

sobston

DISAPPROVED-U

THIS CATEGORY IS ASSIGHED BY INDEX

FOR HEADQUARTERS USE ONLY, THE

FIELD

CHIEF DETERViLiNES

CLASSIED, DISCLOSURE

LEVEL

4433

EYES ONLY

#1622

SEP 3959

EVES ONY

10. 1124

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CONFIDENTIAL

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$775

Subject was investigated by Federal Agencies in 1941, 1942,

1945, 1947, and 1957.

The investigation reports as tell as the

files of other Federal Agencies reflect the folloring=

Between 1940 and 1942 Subject was considered to be

pro-Gerrian.and suspected of being a terman propagandist and

an espionage agent.

Several informants stated that Subject was in sympathy

tith the Commist form of governient in Russia but new of no

un-American activities on the part of Subject. One informant ~

advised in 1947 that Subject had definite Commistic tenden-

Ci83.

Investigations failed to produce any legal competent

evidence or witnesses to substantiate the raports that Subject

had been pro-Comunist or pro-lazi.

Majosity of informants corsider Subject to be eccentric,

Irresponsible, conceited, an adventurer fond of exaggeration, and

overly altressive.

Subjact has been known to associate with persons or

questionable loyalty, reputation, and moral character.

Subject, when interviewed, admitted that he tends to exag-

gerate and advised that he thought the Communist form of govern

ment of Soviet Russia was the better form of government on the :

European continent, and that he had a great adniration for the

Connistic form of government, but that that did not prevent

him fron having a stronger feeling of loyalty to the government

of the United States.

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CONFIDENTIAL

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TAB F

George DE MOHRENSCHILDT

Fron the Office of Security

CIA CONNECTION:

DE MOHRENSCHILDT was security disapproved for OSS employ-

agent.

On 13 August 1958 derogatory information was furnished

the Contact Office who was interested in interrogating him as

fan alien contact.

His second wife, Phyllis whom he married on

11 July 1948.and divorced 29 December 1949, was employed as a

receptionist by a covert project (NCFE) from 1950 to 12 January

(1951 when her employment was terminated.

(Reason not given.).

Dimitri S. VON MOHRENSCHILDI, WaS

approved on is Apoth oso mer exploration as a contact tor 24

foreign intelligence purposes on a limited basis; not to receive

classified information above confidential.

OS INDICES RESULTS:

OS Files on Subject, his second wife, and his brother

reflect use by the Agency as set out above.

Subject was

Investigated by the FBI

in 1941, 1942,

Between 1940 and 1942 Subject was considered to be pro-Germat

and suspected of being a Gernan propagandist.and an espionage

ragent.: Several informants stated that Subject was in

sympathy

with the Communist form of government in Russia but knew of

no un-American activities on the part of Subject.: One infor

mant advised in 1947 that Subject had definite Communistic

tendencies.

investigations failed to produce any

#legal competent evidence or witnesses to substantiate the

*reports that Subject had been pro-Communist or pro-Nazi.

The

majority of informants consider Subject to be eccentric,

fond of exaggeration

irresponsible, esceite he has been known to associate with

and overly aggressive:

persons of questionable loyalty,

and moral character.

subject has admitted that he tends to exaggerate and stated

that he thought the Communist form of government of Soviet

Russia was the better form of government on the European

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continent; that he had a great admiration for the Communist

form of

government but that this admiration did not prevent him

from having a stronger feeling of loyalty to the government of

the United States..

A New York Times item for 12 December 1966 mentioned that

George DE MOHRENSCHILDT has been acquainted with Jacqueline

KENNEDY's father, John BOUVIER, and mother, Mrs.

Hugh AUCHIN-

CLOSS, since Mrs.

KENNEDY was a girl. The DE MOHRENSCHILDT'S

were quoted as saying they were perhaps the only persons in

the world to have known the families of both President KENNEDY

and OSWALD.

SECIET

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