CABLE RE LEE HARVEY OSWALD CONVERSATION WITH OBYRDKOV.
Originator: CIA
From: MEXICO CITY
To: DIRECTOR
Document date: 1976-12-04 00:00:00
Document type: PAPER - TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

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JFK ASSASSINATION SYSTEM

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TITLE

CABLE RE LEE HARVEY OSWALD CONVERSATION WITH OBYRDKOV.

DATE

12/04/76

PAGES

5

SUBJECTS:

OBYRDKOV

PAZ, ELENA

DOCUMENT TYPE:

CLASSIFICATION

PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

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CURRENT STATUS

RELEASED WITH DELETIONS

DATE OF LAST REVIEW

06/24/93

OPENING CRITERIA

COMMENTS: OSW16: V57 1993.06.24.14:28:56:150800:

Released under the John F. Kennedy

Assassination Records Collection Act o

1992 (44 USC 2107 Note). Case#:NW

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1. STATION WAS UNABLE TO LOCATE ANY ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS

RELATING TO THE OSWALD CASE, WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO HOS ATTENTION

TWO DOCUMENTS ON MICROFICHE WHICH WILL BE AVAILABLE AT HOS:

A. IN A FILE OF RUSSIAN CONTACTS 150-8-1DO6) THE FOLLOWING

CONVERSATION BETWEEN LEE OSWALD AND A RUSSIAN. O BYRDKOV:

"IN AT (8) MO/THE SAME PERSON WHO PHONED A DAY OR SO AGO

AND SPOKE IN BRÜKEN RUSSIAN SPEAKS TO OB YRDKOV.

MO: HELLO, THIS LEE OSWALD & PHONY SPEAKING; I WAS AT, YOUR

PLACE LAST SATURDAY AND SPOKE TO A CONSUL, AND THEY SAID THAT THEY'D

SEND A TELEGRAM TO WASHINGTON, SO 1 WANTED TO FIND OUT IF YOU HAVE

ANYTHING NEW? BUT I DONIT REMEMBER THE NAME OF THAT CONSUL.

OBY: KOSTIKOV.

HE IS DARK/HAIR OR SKIN?

LEE: YES, MY NAME IS OSWALD.

OBY: JUST A MINUTE I'LL FIND OUT. THEY SAY THAT THEY HAVEN'T

RECEIVED ANYTHING YET.

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LEE: HAVE THEY DONE ANYTHING?

OBY: YES, THEY SAY THAT A REQUEST HAS BEEN SENT OUT, BUT

NOTHING HAS BEEN RECEIVED YET,

LEE: AND WHAT..,? LOBY HANGS UP/,"

THE FOLLUWING HANDWRITTEN NOTATIONS APPEAR ON THE SHEET OF

TRANSCRIPT: AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE "ANNIE SAW" WITH A LINE THROUGH THE

WORDS. ALSO AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE:. "INDEX", WHICH IS CROSSED

OUT AND THE WORD "DONE" WRITTEN ALONG SIDE. IN THE LEFT MARGIN

THE NOTATION "LIENVOY 1 OCT '63", ALSO IN THE LEFT MARGIN. NEXT

TO THE WORDS "LAST SATURDAY": "28 SEPT", AND BELOW THAT! - "LEE

OSWALD (PHON'", AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE: "REPORTED TO HOS

ON 8 OCT 163", AND UNDER THAT: "NO LOCAL DISSEM'", FOLLOWED

BY THE SIGNATURE "MANELL", FURTHER DOWN THE PAGE IS THE

NOTATION: "THIS RECV'D 8 OCT '63" UNDER WHICH IS THE SIGNATURE

"MAINELL",

B. IN THE LICOOKY OPS FILE (50-6-129-31 WE FIND THE

FOLLOWING MEMO OF 5 OCTOBER 1964 FROM JOYCE H, PINEINCH (P) CAN

AMERICAN FEMALE CONTRACT AGENT WHO APPARENTLY NO LONGER RESIDES

IN MEXICO: "MEXICAN COMMUNISTS WHO HAD CONTACT WITH OSWALD, AS

HAS NOT APPEARED IN WARREN COMMISSION WRITE-UPS TO PRESS.

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"ALL WEEKEND, ELENA GARRO DE PAZ, ELENA PAZ, (THE DAUGHTER) AND

DEBA GARRO DE GUERRERO GALVAN SAT AROUND RECALLING DETAILS OF HAVING

BEEN INN A GROUP WITH OSWALD HERE LAST FALL DURING THE DAYS THAT

HE WAS IN MEXICO, THE WRITE-UPS OF THE WARREN COMMISSION REPORT

IN THE NEWSPAPERS SPARKED THIS DISCUSSION, AND THEY APPARENTLY HAD

NEVER REALLY SAT AROUND DETERMINED TO PIECE IT ALL TOGETHER,

ALTHOUGH ALL THREE WERE DEEPLY AFFECTED BY KENNEDY'S ASSASSINATION,

SEEMED LITERALLY TO ADORE THE KENNEDY FAMILY IMAGE, STILL

FOLLOW ROBERT KENNEDY'S CAREER WITH GREAT INTEREST AND ADMIRATION.

• "THE MAIN POINTS:

"ELENA AND DEBA. ARE FIRST COUSINS OF

THREE YOUNG MEXICANS NAMED

DURAN: RUBEN, HORACIO, AND LYNN. HORACIO IS THE HUSBAND OF SYLVIA

DURAN, THE MEXICAN GIRL WHO WAS ARRESTED FOR QUESTIONING ABOUT

OSWALD BECAUSE SHE HAD BEEN IN TOUCH WITH HIM AT THE CUBAN

EMBASSY WHEN HE WENT THERE LOOKING FOR A VISA, ISHE IS OR WAS

ALSO A RINGLEADER AT THE GUBAN-MEXICAN INSTITUTE ON TOKLO, I

REMEMBER,.

"WHILE OSWALD WAS HERE LAST FALL THE DURAN COUSINS INVITED THE GARRO

SISTERS AND YOUNG ELENA PAZ TO A "TWIST PARTY" AT THE HOME OF

RUBEN DURAN MID-WEEK, A FEW COMMUNISTS THEY KNEW IDEBA IS A •

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COMMUNIST HERSELF, AND ELENA HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH COMMUNISTS

SINCE SHE WAS A YOUNG GIRL AND WENT TO REPUBLICAN SPAIN WITH

OCTAVIO PAZI AND A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO STRUCK THEM AS VERY

PECULIAR AT THE TIME, WERE THERE. AND OSWALD WAS THERE WITH TWO

OTHER BEATNIK LOOKING BOYS, ONE OF WHOM WAS VERY TALL AND ALL

THREE OF WHOM THEY REMEMBER QUITE WELL. WHEN THEY BEGAN ASKING

QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AMERICANS, WHO WERE STANDING TOGETHER ALL

EVENING AND DIDN'T DANCE AT ALL. THEY WERE SHIFTED TO ANOTHER

ROOM, I THE GARROS WERE, HOWEVER, THEY WERE INTRIGUED BECAUSE

THEIR CUUSIN SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW WHO THEY WERE. EXCEPT THAT

•SYLVIA DURAN HAD BROUGHT THEM, AND NONE OF THE OTHER GUESTS MADE

ANY ATTEMPT. TO APFROACH THEM, ALSO, WHEN THE GARROS WERE SO

INSISTENT ABUT MEETING THEM, THE DURANS REPLIED THAT THE BOYS

WERE LEAVING TÖWN VERY EARLY THE NEXT MORNING, THE NEXT DAY,

WELL ALUNG IN THE DAY, THE GARRO SISTERS AND ELENITA PAZ, THE

DAUGHTER, SAW ALL THREE BOYS TOGETHER ON INSURGENTES. IN OTHER

WORDS, THEY HAD NOT LEFT TOWN, AT THE TIME, THEY REMARKED ABOUT.

IT .

"AS SOON AS SWALD'S PICTURE WAS PRINTED IN THE NEWSPAPERS ALL

THREE CLEARLY REMEMBERED HIM. AND OF COURSE THE ARREST OF

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SYLVIA DURAN ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARD, UNDERLINED THEIR

CERTAINTY, THEY WERE SO SICKENED (ELENA AND ELENITAS THAT

THEY BROKE OFF THEIR RELATIONS

WITH THE DURANS. HOWEVER,

THEIR COUSINS VERY NERVOUSLY LOOKED THEM UP LATER, DEBA GARRO DE

GUERFERO GALVAN SAYS THAT LYNN DURAN AND ONE OF THE DURAN BOYS :

HAVE MADE TRIPS TO TEXAS, AND THAT MOST CONSPICUOUSLY THEY

HAVA ALL PROSPERED THIS LAST YEAR, ALWAYS POOR BEFORE, THEY

NOW HAVE AN EXPENSIVE CAR EACH.

"HORACIO DURAN WURKS AT "EL DIA" NEWSPAPER. "

C. AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SECOND SHEET OF THE REPORT THE FOLLOWING

WORDS ARE HANDWRITTEN: "RETURNED ON 21 APR 65 AS L/1 NEVER

REGAINED CONTACT WITH ELENA GARRO DE PAZ." AFTER THESE WORDS

THERE ARE SOME ILLEGIBLE INITIALS.

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