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MEETING WITH THE WARREN COMMISSION ON 12 MARCH 1964

DATE : 03/12/64

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CIA MEETING WITH WARREN COMMISSION

HELMS, RICHARD

ROCCA, RAYMOND

WARREN COMMISSION

OSWALD, LEE HARVEY

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daily movements while in Mexico City nor could they confirm the date

of his departure or his mode of travel. The original assumption that

he had returned by bus could not be proven. Several possibilities were

discussed whereby the Commission could fill in the gaps of its investi-

gation of the Mexican phase. The suggestion was made that the most

effective way of resolving the questions they had would be to have a

member of the Commission visit Mexico City and discuss the issues on

the spot with those American and Mexican officials directly concerned.

Mr. Helms noted that it would be possible for a member of the Com-

mission to visit our Chief of Station who would then be able to work out

with the Warren Commission stait member the best way to handle inter-

views with Mexican police officials, particularly if it is desired that

these interviews be informal in nature. Our Chief of Station would also

be able to put the Warren Commission staff member in contact with the

FBI officials and Immigration and Naturalization Service officers stationed

in Mexico City. Mr. Helms cautioned that our Chief of Station would be

under State Department coves and that it would be proper to advise the

Department of the planned visit and upon arrival to meet briefly with the

Ambassador or Minister Counselor before proceeding to work out details

with the CIA Chief of Station.

8. In connection with the Mexican phase of the investigation, mem-

bers of Mr. Pankin's staff questioned Mr. Helms and Mr. Rocca regarding

the extent of the CLA file on Oswald for the period 8 October to 22 November

1963. They questioned the sanitized extracts which they had been shown

and wondered if there were not more. Mr. Rocca summarized the ma-

terials that had come to the attention of the Secret Service, or had been

disseminated to the Secret Service, immediately after the assassination.

Mr. Rocca said there was not additional substantive information and that

the sanitized version seen by the Commission constituted the sum of our

holdings. Mr. Helms then explained that as a matter of practice we did

not release actual copies of our messages because they contained code-

words and digraphs which would be unintelligible to a person not familiar

with them. He added, however, that he would be happy to show the file

with the original messages to any staff member of the warren Commission

who might come to visit him at Langley.

9. The question of why no action was taken by other agencies of

the government after their receipt of CIA information that Oswald was

in contact with the Soviet and Cuban Embassies in Mexico City was next

discussed. Mr. Rankin and members of his staff clearly felt that this

was a crucial question which needed careful review. They appeared to

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believe that the information on Oswald was unusual enough to have

caused recipients to take special measures which might conceivably

have led to a closer scrutiny of Lee Harvey Oswald and his movements.

Mr. Helms pointed out that the information on Oswald's visit to the

Cuban and Soviet embassies in Mexico City came from telephone inter-

cepts which were placed on both embassies. These intercepts were

recorded on tape and reviewed by persons at our Station for any infor-

mation affecting U. S. security. Such information is routinely passed

to other agencies and entered in ClA files. Given the enormous bulk

which is involved, the tapes are not kept on file but erased after a brief

period of time. Thus the information on Oswald was similar to that

provided on other American citizens who might have made contacts of

this type. In Oswald's case, it was the combination of visits to both

Cuban and Soviet Embassies which caused the Mexico City Station to

report this to Headquarters and Oswald's record of defection to the

Soviet Union which prompted the Headquarters dissemination.

At the

conclusion of his remarks on this subject, Mr. Helms specified that

the information he had given Mr. Rankin was extremely sensitive and

that the very eistence or these telephone intescepts

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arerruly protected

10. The Commission, Mr. Rankin said, would be interested in

any information held by CIA on Jack Ruby. Mr. Rankin said the Com-

mission staff had prepared a roundup on Ruby, a copy of which he handed

Mr. Helms.

He said he would appreciate any file reilections or comments

that CIA analysts might make on this material. Mr. Rankin and memcers

of his staff then discussed Ruby's confirmed trip to Havana in 1959. Tire

Commission has received information from an unspecified source that

Ruby was in Havana again in 1963 under a Czech passport. Mr. Rankin

asked whether CIA could provide any assistance in veritying this story.

Mr. Helms replied that CIA would be limited in its possibility of assist-

ing, to air mannest checks in Mexico. These would be carried out he

said.

11. Mr. Helms was then asked ir CLA had done any folloir up to

its original telegraphic dissemination of the information on Oswald's

visits to the Cuban and Soviet embassies in Mexico City. Mr. Melms

replied that there had been no CIA action following our initial dissemi-

nation. Mr. Willems then asked if there were any liaison problems

faced by CIA in its efforts to deal with other agencies in matters affect-

ing internal security. Mr. Helms replied that there were always under-

standable human problems in conducting any liaison on any subject but

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