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Originator: HSCA
From: CIA
Document date: 3/9/78
Document type: NOTES

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JFK Assassination System

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03/09/1978

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Released under the John

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collection det of 1992

144 USC 2107 Notel.

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COMMENTS :

OSWALD, LEE, POST-RUSSIAN PERIOD, TRAVEL, TRIP TO

MEXICO

CIA, FILES

NOTES

Unclassified

1A; 1B

Redact

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UNCLASSIFIED

: INTERNAL

USE ONLY

ROUTING AND RECORD SHEET

CONFIDENTIAL

MOXICO

SECRET

сітр

SUBJECT: (Optional)

FROM:

Patrick L. Carpentier

Assistant Legislative Counsel

TO: (Officer designation, room number, and

building)

DATE

RECEIVED

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CONFIDENTIAL

SECRET

SUBJECT: (Optional):

FROM:

Patrick L. Carpentier

Assistant Legislative Counsel

TO: (Officer designation, room number, and

building)

DATE:

RECEIVED

Don Gregg

SA/DO/0%

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SECRET

OLC 78-1065/3

13 March 1978

MEMORANDUM FOR: Don Gregg

SA/DO/O

FROM

SUBJECT

:

Patrick L. Carpentier

Assistant Legislative Counsel

: Sanitization of HSCA Researcher Notes

1. (S) Attached for your review, appropriate sanitization, and

classification is a copy of the notes taken by HSCA researcher Dan

Hardway on cable traffic to and from Mexico City and from Oswald's

Mexican file.

2. (U) Please use black grease pencil to excise and directly above

the excised information please write in a sanitized description of the

information excised, for example: employee, asset, etc.

3. (U) Please send us a copy of the notes after your sanitization and

we will forward to the Committee. All original notes will be kept in this

office under the name of the particular researcher involved.

Attachment:

As Stated

Retic Copate

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3/9/78

I Russio

A beneral Observation

1 The name of the embassy appears

a the tand the grampa

here means one daijs coverage

wore phone. I his is followed

by the number of the phone

overed. la series of thre

turo digit numbers) The

next live gives the date of

the coverage. The nest live

gives the tape reel number

On some of the transcripts

of the transcripts the cite

to where the conversation!

the the roll appear orit

the referenced conversa-

tron benerally, thetime,

and a notation as to.

whether.it.isarincoming

s outgoing call, appears

at the beginning.

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dhis is more true of the

spanish than the English

transcripts. Some of the

conversations in spanish

and most of the English

in spanish. In these trans.

crists there are references

to those places on the tape

where a conversation

4. In the Englich transcripts

(conversation had been

cite to thi tape footage mumber.

These conversations are not.

in the transcripts we

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-3-

examined. ed and did a

careful crass-heferencin

check of all transcripts for

O three day period to try to

find those conversatione

dented as presses tramo

toturnupany

of thase

onversations. When aske

about this Russ Holmes said.

5. Marginal Comments are no

frequent in the English

transcripts. The comments

seem to be of tivo tyjees,

bath of which are setoff

from the text try slash

tacks so first type sermo

when the tranolator/trans.

criber is unsure of a word,

name follored l

aquestion mark (Ve sometimes,

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he second tuge i longes.

tion and cover a more

general area. These are usually.

prefaced with the word.

comment". Some eramples:

a notation ofalarm in as

participants voice;

6 comments on the marital

relationship of a Russian

embassy afficial (basedon

the observation that the

official always speaks in a

his upending tome to

acallevas

identiaying man is

a previous conversation;

a substitutions for literal

macribing the argument;

é comments on intonation;

f notes of background.

conversations;

° let 1o are a thingtage:

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I Ed noted that the spanish

in the transcripts is very

examined. When asked about

this Russ Holmes said it

vas probably becaus

those days were a Saturday

intal lunday and ther

Information from the trana.

ASeptember 27, 1963.

1 A man calls the soviet

Military Attacke lookin

for a iisa to Odessa. Re

is refered to the Consulate.

Weasks how to get to the

and appears to be a paraphras

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This conversation occured

betueen 10:30 and 10:50 A.M.

tis necessari

get a vira to d or himto

essor. the

person in the embassy,

asks him to call backa

11:30. This is in the Spanish

transcripts.

3. at 1:25 a man calls the

Consulate and asks for the

Sonal Heistolat that he

manoutside asks, "when

tomorrow? "The Consulate

official tells him between

400 5 on Mondays and

Fridays. This is in Spanish

4 at approximately 4:05pm

sylira Duran calls the

tent embassy the tello

American citizen was o

there at the Cuban Embassy

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the one who wanto a visa

to Cuba in transit to Russia.

tolera says that he wante

to at the torret Embass

because she had sent him

there saying that if he got a

sorret visa that he could

thenget a Cuban one and

seeking the visas wants to

know who he spake to at

the barret lembassy because

he wais assured that there

vould be no problem The

mon at the borret embassy

puts another manow the

im. He tells her to

leave her name and phone

numberand says he wil

all back. This transcript

5. At 42 pandentitied Sonie

Consulate Official calla

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Sylvia Duran The Soviet

official (herenafter 50) ask

hev if the American has been

papers from the boviet

onsulate in Mashington, D.C

and that he wants to go to

the U S5R where he plans

tostay fora long time

with his wife who is

Russian. The 50 says that he

has nat recieved ananswer

to this man's problem.

from Mashington and it

traditionally takes farin to

five months. The 50. says

that les the has parmis

one a visa without getting

permiasion from trashington

Rennese, the 50 ping that

cutes can no geta

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Soviet visa and the 50.

doesnt know what to do

with him now because

hey should wait foran

the Cubans will give hin

~ irisa because he doesn't

that want meant

in Cuba while his sorret

husa was being processedand

n Hashington veryguickly

and she could have it sent

the idas on permission

soon Silvia says itio

clear that they cant give

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The SO days that they can't

B. september 28, 1963. Sturday) :

Silvia Duran Calls the barret

Consulate at 11:51 A.M. She says

that there is a North American

there who had been at the

sorret Embassy before She SC

isko her to wait one minut

preceedin

im English in spanish, folloi.

"/Please see the spanish trans-

ription/ WO while waiting

cription /WO while waiting

speaks in english to someons

in the background: He said

wait.. Do you speak Russian?

Yo. They set non tallo to

takes the phone and says in

broken Russian/Suas in

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your Embassy and spoke to

your consul. fust a minute

MI takes the phone and

aakes nO in english what

does he want.

mo: lin Russian/ Please speak

Russian.

mI: Uhat else do you want?

no: I was just now at your

Embassy and they took

myadoheso..

MI: Iknow that

the Cuban Embassy to ask.

them for my addhess, because

The spanich transcript

indicates that the MO first

poke Russian, the MI regponde

menglish and then they

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both spoke in English. The

transcret in Oswaldi

mexican file is a carban...

C October 1, 1963

1 At 10:31 A.m. a man calls the borret

Military attaches:

"Mo to MI, in boroken Russian

place last Saturday and d

talked to your consul. They

said theyd senda telegramto

Mashington and I wantid to

ask you if there was any

thing new.

nI: d'd like to ask you to call

another phone number.

no: please Please.

mI: Please unite it down; 15-60-56

and ask fora consul.

mo: Thank you...

MI: Please

(English transcript)

2. A man callo the consul later

There is not a time on the

transcript. @Chronologorg

of the Mexico City investi

gation (WX-7241; Vol I.) places

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this callat 10:45 Am. The

Oswald Mexican file has

a Xeroxed copy of the

Englich transcripts:

"Inat to (?) (sic) mo/ the same

person who phoned a

day or so ago and spoke

in broken Russian/speaki

to Obyedkor

no: Hello, this is hee Oswald

they did hartheasenda.

, and

telegram to Vrashington, so

wanted to find out if you

have anything

new? But d

don't remember the name

of that consul

_EA

OBY: Kostikor He is dark/hair

owskin?/

LIE: Yes. My name is Qowald

OBY: Just a minute I'll fund

hot they may that there

net.

64: a hey dest alignit.

) ВУ: Цео,

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has been sentout, but

nothing has been recieved

has yed what 3/06Y hangoup!"

The ane subsequent and two

transabea

0 On October 3 a man calls the

Soviet military Attache and

speaksin broken Spanish and

then english the MO anto forda

pea for Russia and is asked

to call the Consulate at 15-60-55.

says he doesn't knor

anything aboutand days

call the consulate (English

transcript)

Info from the transcripts in

Oswalds Mexico file

A. 9/22; 10:37 call-Neros copy

9.27;

4:26 call-.

Ti.

C 9/27; 4:05 call -

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15-

AlSO

0. 9/27/

4:26 call;

carbon copy taped to another

page

1. portions underlined in

red. (not on Xerox)

2. Scott unites: "Dait posible

3. routed to Hoodpasture

5. filed in torret contact

and Orwald BP-date of

biling insations n

indicated

2. 9/27; 405 call; carbon copy.

1 parts underlined in real

2. routed to Scott, Soodpasture

an Shaw.

3 file instructions to hoveet

contact file.

I no dates indicated.

F 9/28; 11:51 call, carbon cogey

I parts underlined in reds

3. routed to scott, bood-

pasture + thaw.

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4 file notions, ta

5. no date

G. 810/1j

10:31 call; Kerox

IH. 10/1;

"*a (?) "call;

I. 10/3;

I. Shaure requested the

from Barbara sind am

atting to location

riginal corps that tram

*I if the CARBoNi

OR RIBALS DONE FOEXISTLE MEXICAN

= I nation donali

City, Gowald's Mexican file, and

HQR'S 201and WX-7241:

A. ON 10/1/63 Mexi 6344 to HQ

reporto that Dave Phillips

is on TDY in Machington, D.C.

B. Mexi 6384, dated 10/3/63, subject

undete needle change

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Mexi willarrives Oct

Tin Miamit for two days

consultation WAVE... To

Mexi: Mo A hillips ITA

Mexi a Oct....

0. October 1+4, 1963.

1. Oswald's Mexican file

containsan envelope four

prints of photos of the mmm

the envelope sayo: "Dups of

unidentified man photos

in the 201" in blue printin

In red script it says. " Photos

ofinidentified.person.on

intering s→ Embarry.

2. ux, 747, appealantly acare

of these photos air 1+4 October.

as does post-assassination

cable traffic and Mexi 6453

which refers to can

unidentified man entering

the Embassy on one October.

3. Russ Holmes recently

informed me that the correct

dates are Rand 4 October.

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118-

(5-1-A)

E On 8 October 1963, Maxi 6453, is.

Bent to Han It originted sh

Officer (A.O.) was Barbara Manell

Oswald's call to Obyedkor

an Oct 5; Oswalds statement

that he had been there or the

seth, and the in he tara,

1216 hours, leaving 1222 o.1

Oct. Appearent age 35,

athletic build, circas feet,

receding hairline, baldin

khakis and sport

shirt. "There is not a routing

slipon this cable

F HQ. responded to Mexi <453 with

DIR 74830(7-2) on 10 October 1963.

dhis cable originated with

Charlatte Bustars; A.0.was

J.C. King. and the R.O. was

Thomas Karamessines. This

cable.providesasammary.of

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bio info on Qawald includine

his DOB, date of defection, descrip-

tion, his return to the 1. 5., and

his marriage. It says that the

stay in the USSR "clearly had a

maturina

effect on Oswald"

It reported that the last info

recieved by H. Q was a May

4ea mens that reposted that

it had been determined that LO.

was stilla U.S. citizenand

that he and his family had

been given visas to return to

the U5. Mexico was instruated

to paso Oshvalds DPOB, fact

of defection, and descristion to

the FBI, Mavy, I+ NS. and the

embassy locally AQsaid

that it was passing the

info in Mexi 6453 and the

ident data to FBI, State

Navy, I+NS HQ's. This cabl

allo him "hee Hennes Oswald,

The raiting slip in the

Mexicanfiles indicate that

this cable went to booth, White,

"Paul",

And pantine, Manag, Pare noted:

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"He should ask HQ for photo. No?"

Barbara Manell noted that the

local dissemination requested

ivas done on 15 October Scott

requested that a "P'" bile be.

into it. Photos?"

G.On a Oatober 1963 Meril 468

informed HQ that Meri urgently

needed new tape recorders for

Jaracoff, Floryan Randolph

Marty and an to colt emidene-

I person. The cable reported:

that the machines used by

these people were constantly

Franking one and thapair

nasa seaunty problem.

+ The October 10th HQ disseminatio

Crig: C. Bustos; R.O.: fane Roman

(I Liaison); A.O: L.N. GAllAry.

(c/WH/R); Coordinated, in draft

- NoTE: The

"CI/ 51G/Egerter " and "SR/CI/

at Gle elegant to the

•TOItUS.

Departmentw of State and Nairy

and the FBI. The first para-

graph of the cable says: On, Oat.

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1963 a reliable and sensitive

source reported that an Amar.

ican male, who identified

himself as hee Orwald, contacted

the loviet Embassup in Mexico.

City inguer

ung whether the

Embassy had recieved any news

concerning a telegram which had

been sent to Mashington. The

American wao described as

approximately 35 years old, with

an athletic build, about six feat

tall, with a reading hairline."

The cable goes on to say that

it is believed that the man is

identical to hee Hemy Oswald

anagives bio info on him

(O1R 74(73, dated 10/10/63).

J. On 10/15/3 Mexi 6534 twas dated.

hig.+ A.0: Herbert Manell

R.0: Min Scott

ref: DIR 74830.

response to this cable in

ither the mexico cable traffic

honor dude milne

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to provide the dispatches

to and from Mexico between

the dates of 10/15 and 14/26. Russ

said that this might not get.

all the pouched materials

because HQ sometimes used.

what he called "an unattributable

pouch " This able does not

K. Cable originating with T. WARD,

(WH/3/Mexico on 23Oct 1923. 0t

wassenton the 2tth

A.O: L.N. Hallary; R.O: JaneRoman

REf: 01R74673.

"It is requested that you

orward to this office as soor

vill attempt to determine if

the hee Oswald in Mexico City

and tubest are the same

1. On k Oatober 1963 Min Scott

vote a memo to the Ambassa

don's contact with the lovemb

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It reported that the infor-

mation.was.frama.very

sensitive, usually reliable

source; that a man I D'ine

hiniself asks Oswald had

contacted that hamb on

previoudly.contacted then

on as kept.; that he had

talked to Kostikov aboute

repeatis resent, 10%

promise to pass ann

(9-5 FOiA) The memo says, in

part:

This office determined that

Oswald had been at the

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af this memo went sto

The Ambassador

The Minister

Caminselos for Political Affaire

Regional Security Offices

copiesto:

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having trouble locating thea

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them available if and when.

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