TESTIMONY OF GERALD WAYNE KIRK
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TESTIMONY • GERALD WAYNE KIRK

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HEARINGS

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SUBCOAAITIKE TO INVESTIGATE THE

ADNINTSTRATION OF THE INTERNAL SECURITY.

ACT AND OTHER INTERNAL SECURITY LAWS

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CENTURE OF TEN SUNDARY

UNTIED STATES SENATE

ILETT-FIRST CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

PART 2

LARGE 10, 1970

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a couplo of other puopio thoro with us, but I can't remembor encily

1l10.

Mr. Mouper. Thint was tho outcomo of that discussion?

MIr. Kink.

To renlized our position lng very godl. Our position

Communist Party, U.S.A. One person thrt influenced peoplo syng

Ronnio Dung for example.

DIr. Norpel His nano cama up in the discussion ?

Mr. KI5. Right.

Mr. NoureL He did not participito in tho discussioni

Mr. Kins. No; he did not. He hed other things to do in othor ports

i tha conforence, but ho mainendoned es a baison who was vory.

very cieso to the position of the Communist Yarty, U.S.A., on almos

cicry mntter that would come up.

Jmm's request, Dayig asked mo to work for him, Duvis.

So, jou con sea that Davis, even though his theioric may be & bit

deferent, it is still very close to his basic position. Ho is nlso vory

close, not only an his positions but in his tactics, because no matter

traveler to Morth

tries without having fery, very close contacts with the Communist

Party, D.S.A. It is not possibla to do thet unless you do have close

contacts.

MIr. Morpan Wes this meeting in Bleck's room to which you ra-

ferred construed es g party meating, e party caucus?

MIr. KIRs. Yes.

Mir. NospeL In other words, what developed Laare tras an essess-

inant of the party's position and particularly mthin the biack caucus

relating to the Nationel Conierence for New Politics?

AIr. AIRE Yes.

Mr Koe All eat rome on cother Plea that day of the

next one, we were on the door of the convention making various notes

and suggestions and the caucus had coalesced by that time It was, in

i cinna can can can shane. lue had people iho had been involve

In S-CC, people who had been involved in RAJI, people mho had

Leen involved in various things around the couniry.

lic cientually, I think, bacune inembers of the Black Panther Pirty

because there mas alvays a movement of personnel through these vari-

ous organizations.

So we started to take these vrious votes end ronl-

jeer that tho block cancus

position mas even better thnn me and

beliered at first, and we did eventually in that convention more it to

quite a few of the party's positions ranted on the mar and on the

party's defnition of racisin, and things of that sort. Te got just ebont

everything me wanted, and thet is bore out by the fact thet the anb

ficecions and the statements that came from NOSe, especielly on the

decision to have the ticket of Spock and King irhich mere besic party

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positions. Thoro ser

quilo i less people sho belioree! they wore renl

robolutionares sho didn't believo it mis necessary to havo n ticket. or

naresidential campaign of Spook and ling, but tho party behever it

was nbsolutely necessary brennse it grew out of the didlectend position

Lather King

Purty, U.S.A. in fucti

Mr luk. Yell, the Conmunist Purty, U.S. A. decided thint thos

rens the two of the best people that the gurty position could mor

ion, the purty personnel.

You ere not implying then that either Spock of Ming

weid or cia members of the Communist Party!

Mr. Jous. No.

Air Tons. out oy onlying tire.

bar. Nonper. Now, to go back to this black erncus, wasn't it true

that the blocks wore numericully inferior when at cums to the voongs

: Sir. Kank. Thut is tina.

br. Noures Thet the whites predominted or hold the ninjority of

Mr. Kins. 'Chut's true

JIr. Nones Was anytng dons thout that? Can you chosente ou

he way the minority question representing the blncks was settled re

far esthe rotes went, within the convention ?

Mr. Ira. Well, all through the conference or convention thera yus

& thens thet was promoted by the Communist Inity, J.S.A. yoos

ago, that bacause of the institutional racien in Americe and all those

terns they threw out, a convention like the MCNP had to do some-

thing that would negate the fact that blacks didn't have as many votes

as thites, and so one oi the positions of the Communist Party mem-

bers tres to support nagons in the black causus and anywhere else in

the convention who wanted to change that numerical system: I, my-

self, did not get to go to the final meeting at which the black caucus

voted, you hoow, on the spacides, but I was there when they came bach

to the convention, baccusa they hed lein and there was some siange.

nents mede, I am not sure of the suecifes or the numbers but there

pas sorns arrangement made where the totes of the black caucus ivere

mors than they would have been simply on the basis of numbers, per se.

Mr. Nosper Tould you continue on then with what happened at

the convention, es you recall it?

Sir. Ira. Tell, there were several speeches amply covered by nl!

the press. The one speech that struck me was by amnes Formon, lic

her been en informant of the record, plense

Senator TummonD. Of tho record..

(Discussion of the record.)

Senior TaunsioND. Back on the recoid.

SIr. Name de you spelling of Jane Foman?

hir. Kons: Right. As you boom ho had been involved in SACC and

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