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CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE SOVIET AND CUBAN EMBASSIES IN MEXICO CITY

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USSR EMBASSY

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MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD

FROM:

SUBJECT:

W. David Slawson.

Intercepts from the Soviet and Cuban Embassies in

Mexico City

The following are my notes from reading the inter-.

cepts: in question in the American Embassy in Mexico City;

translated from the Spanish by Embassy personnel, on April 13,

1964. These notes are about as accurate and detailed as I

could make them without actually quoting the entire trans-

cripts. In a few instances, either where it was very important

or where the meaning was obscure and therefore difficult to

paraphrase, I have quoted exactly.

I have noted these portions

by placing them in quotation marks.

September 27 - 10:37 a.m.

A person who sounds like an American speaking poor

Spanish, later Identified as Lee Harvey Oswald, telephones the

Soviet Embassy.

OSWALD: May I speak to the Consul?

INSIDE VOICE: He is not in.

• OSWALD: I need some visas in order to go

INSIDE*

VOICE: Please. call at 11:30.

to Odessa.

OSWALD: Unt11, when? :

INSIDE VOICE: (Hangs up)

TRAYEL PROGRAM

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September 27 - 4:05 p.m.

A woman's voice, speaking in Spanish, later Identi-

fied as Silvia Duran, speaking from the Cuban Consulate,

calls into the Soviet Embassy.

SILVIA DURAN: There 1s an American here who has

requested an in-transit visa because he is going to Russia.

I would like to know whom he spoke to at the Russian Embassy,

because I sent him to you thinking if he got a Russian visa

that I could then issue him a Cuban visa without any more

processing: Who did he speak to?

He claims he was told there

were no more problems.

INSIDE VOICE: Wait a minute. (The inside voice

then explains to someone else on his side of the line that

Silvia Duran 1s calling, that she 1s calling in reference to

an American who says he had previously been to the Soviet

Embassy, etc.)

ANOTHER INSIDE VOICE: Please leave the name and

number and we will call you back.

SILVIA DURAN: (She leaves her name and her telephone

number and/she then engages in some personal conversation in

regards to the fact that she has recently changed apartments

and therefore would like the "bulletin" sent to her new address.

The voice in the Soviet Embassy agrees.)

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September 27 - 4:25 p.m.

Someone at the Soviet Embassy telephones the Cuban

Embassy..

VOICE FROM THE SOVIET EMBASSY:

What's the number of

the Cuban Consul?

VOICE AT THE CUBAN EMBASSY: Its 11-28-47.

September 27 - 4:26 p.m.

Someone at the Soviet Embassy telephones into the

Cuban Consulate. The person answering the phone at the Cuban

Consulate 1s Silvia Duran.

RUSSIAN EMBASSY: Has the American.

been there?

SILVIA DURAN: Yes, he 1s here now.

RUSSIAN EMBASSY: According to the letter that he.

showed from the Consulate in Washington, he wants to go to

Russia to stay for a long time with his wife who is Russian.

But we have received do answer from washington, and it will

probably take four to five months. We cannot give a visa here

without asking Washington. He says he belongs to a pro-Cuban

organization and the Cubans cannot give him a visa without his

fIrst getting a Russian visa. I do not know what to do with him.

"y?"

I have to wait for an answer

from Washington.

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SILVIA DURAN:

We have to wait too, because he knows

no one in Cuba and therefore It's difficult to give him

a visa.

He says. he knew it would take a long time to process the Soviet

visa but hoped to await that in Cuba.

RUSSIAN EMBASSY:

"The thing is that 1f his wife 1s

now in Washington she will receive the visa for return to Russia.

She will receive it and then can send it any place but right now

she does not have it."

SILVIA DURAN: "Naturally, and we can't give him a

visa here because we do not know if his Russian visa will be

approved."

RUSSIAN EMBASSY: "We can issue a visa only according

to instructions."

SILVIA DURAN: "That is what I will put in my plans.

RUSSIAN EMBASSY:

"We can't give him a letter of recom-

mendation either, because we do not know him. Please pardon the

bother."

SILVIA DURAN:

"No bother.

Thank you very much."

September 28 - 11:51 a.m.

Someone at the Cuban Consulate later

Identified as

Silvia Duran telephones Into the Russian Consulate.

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SILVIA DURAN:

There is an American here who says he

has been to the Russian Consulate.

RUSSIAN CONSULATE: Wait a minute.

Silvia Duran 1s then heard to speak in English to

someone apparently sitting at her side.

This conversation goes

as follows:

"He said, wait. Do you speak Russian?"

"Yes."

"Why don't you speak to him then?"

"I don't know

The person who was at the side of Silvia Duran and

who admitted to speaking some Russian then gets on the line

and speaks what is described as "terrible, hardly recognizable

Russian." This person was later identified as

Lee Harvey Oswald.

OSWALD: "I was in your Embassy and spoke to your

Consul."

my address."

RUSSIAN EMBASSY:

"What else do you want?"

OSWALD: : "I was just now at your Embassy and they took

RUSSIAN EMBASSY:

"I know that."

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OSWALD: :

"I did not know it then. I went to the

Cuban Embassy to ask them for my address, because they have 1t."

RUSSIAN EMBASSY: Why don't you come by and leave it

then, we're not far.

OSWALD: "Well, I'll be there right away."

October 1 - 10:30 a.m.

A person later identified as Lee Harvey Oswald,

speaking In "broken Russian," telephones into the Soviet Embassy:

OSWALD:

"Hello. I was at your place last Saturday

and talked to your consul. They said they'd send a telegram to

Washington, and I wanted to ask you, is there anything new?"

RUSSIAN EMBASSY: Call another telephone number, 1f

you will.

OSWALD: Please.

RUSSIAN EMBASSY: 15-60-55, and ask for a Consul

OSWALD: Thank you.

RUSSIAN EMBASSY: "Please."

October 1 - 11:30 a.m.

The same voice, stil speaking in broken Russian,.

telephones the Russian Consulate.

He speaks to a man identified

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• OSWALD: Hello, this 1s Lee Oswald. I was at your

place last Saturday and talked to your Consul. They said

a send a telegram to Washington, and I wanted to ask you

whether there was anything new, but I cannot remember the

name

of the Consul.

OBYEDKOV: "Kostikov. He is dark?"

OSWALD: "Yes. My name is Oswald."

OBYEDKOV: "Just a minute. I'll find out.. They say

they have not received anything yet."

OSWALD: "Have they done anything?"

OBYEDKOV: "Yes, they say a request has been sent

out, but nothing has been received yet."

OSWALD: "And what ..."

OBYEDKOV: (Hangs up)

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