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OIRM 24418, 15 September 1965

1.

The story provided by Subjoat during our intervien at the United

States Consulato 1n Triesto on 25 Jotober 1905 concerning hia experiendes

while in tho soviet Union 18 essentially the same as that provided by Dr.

George Renninger in raferenoe (a).

Although Subject was reasonably 0o-

operativo, he was not as fully communloativo as we aliht have desired.

In

conaldering the varlous possiblu roasons for his partial hesitando It ap-

pears rather obvious now that our continued interest in what he interproted

to be a very simplo relationshin with a Soulet girl has caused him to sua-

peot that posalbly ve are suspiclous of him.

Ragording to subjeot, the

entiro episode was reported fully whilo in Mosoow and again to KUBARK last

Christmas uhilo he was on a vialt to the United statos.

Subject stated

that he had prepared a roport in writing for Dr. Goldbers at Prinoston

Univereity who dots as a &y tetween for rubark.

It 1s obvlous that he was

probably asked to prepare a genoral report on his experionous while in tho

Soviet Union for KULOOK which we had not been aware of previoualy and. whloh

may not have come to the attention of KUDESK. Unlues Headquarters has some

rathor spoolflo questions 1t 18 considered unlikuly that we can provide ary

intomation in addition to that reported in the following paragraphs ob-

tainod during this interion.

2. Jubject arrived in Mescow during the early part of November 1963

on a ten month exchange fellowship arranged betwcen the National Academy

uf Soiunces and tre Sovlot Acadeny of Scienoes.

Subjeat was assigned

to

the Lebeder Physios Institute in Moscow and the major portion of his life

whilo In Mosoow revolved around his work at the Institute or varlous in-

dividuals met through the Institule. Subject ate lunch in the Institute

lunch room or cafeteria and usually at about the same time each day, some-

time between one and one thirty. Approximatoly two wecks after he bad

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arrived al the lasturo, subjege and did dotten Dr dear persues

who was at the Insiitute

approached by V1a11.a1r Anatolailan SOKOLAVSKTY uhlie walting la the care-

toria l1ne. SOKCLOVSKIY, who identifled himself as an Anerican, said that

he had heard that way were in the Instliüle and ranted to meet ther. Dur-

ing this first conversation Subjeot clales that SOrOLOVSKIY told them thet

he was in faot W1lllam Hanilion MARTIN and went on to explain some of the

supertsaial decalla surruunadus nis delec:ion to the sovies Union in 1900.

MARTIN told them that 1f they did not consider him 'oo tainted, he would

weloone the opportunity of calking to scra ararioans.

He felt that there

wore many lacers of hla experiances while in the soviet Union shion he

would like to talk about but whlch he could not dissass with his sovlet

friendo. Either on this ocoasion or later, MARTIN sentloned inat Vernon

MICHELL, who had defeated with MARTIN, was living in Leningrad.

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Approxinately a week lator subjec: net MARTli again in the lunch

room:

MARTIN reporta. that following ils firat encounter with Subjeot and

RENNINGER he had boen oalled

apologized to him for not having warned r.in in advanen that Subjeet and

RENNINGiR were boing assigned to the Institute, sinoe they were certain

that Subjeat would tave wanted to avold ther. They cold MARTIN that it

was perfectly permissible for him to talk to them, but that he should de?-

Initely not reveal his true identity to them nor should he give then his

address in Mosoon sinoe there was the gussibllity that they had been sent

to the soviot Union to assasalnate him.

to know what MAKlIN had disoussed 11un Subjeat and RENINGER.

rule, Subject saw MARTIN in the lunch room every weex or two for the antire

porlod that he was In Mosoon.

would avoid talking to subjeat. Based on MARTIN's astlons, Subjoot assumed

this usually depended on who was prosont in the lunon roon.

at this point that their disousslons with MARTIN were always in Engilsh.

4o MARTIN made 1t definitoly clear to Subjoot that he was intorasted

in getting out of the Sovlet Union.

He desoribed life in the USSR as a

constant game with the soviet offloals.

MARTIN felt that he had only been

able to keep his noad above water while there because of his knouledgo of

soviot. lan.

Hu, explained to Subjoet that he had devoted a great deal of

time studying Soviet law and had usad his knowlasgo to protoot himsell.

The Soviets were frequently at a loss when confronted with quotations fron

their own laws in total confliot with aotlons which hey vere trying to

imposs on MARTIN. Subjeat was once asked to write a letter to MARTIN'B

parents asking them to put pressure on the sovieto and the prese to help

in obtaining hia releaso.

Subjeot sald that-a copy of thie letter nuat

be avallable at KUdirK.

So MARTIN also desoribed in great detail to subjeot life 1n genoral

within the Soviet Union and what the average Sovlet citiion must faoe every

day.. It was obvious to Subleat that MARTIN had been greatly diaillusioned

following his arrival in the USSR when he found a society totally different

from what he had antialpated prior to his departure from the United States.

The Sorlets had exerted conalderable pressure on Subjeot to partloipate 1n

vardous antI-US radio prograns or to write anti-US artiales.

disoussion back and forth MARTIN agreed to write something if they would

promise to publish it without editing.

He wrote what he considered a very

. objective comparison of life In the USSR and that in the U.S. After having

submitted this artiole he was never approached again on this toplo.

6. Regular contaots between Subject, RENNINHER and MARTIN continued

In the lunch room with general conversations such as those noted above un-

t1l December or early January, 1964.

At this point MARTIN asked Subjeet

if he or RENNINGER wauld. go to the U.S. Imbesay to ask them if there vere.

any way in which they could assist him in. leaving the Soviet Union legally

or othernise.

Subject risted that' RENNINGER had already contacted the U.S.

Embassy following the first meeting with MARTIN to report on their con

versations with him and the faot that he was in Moscos.

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Also at about ine sane tine, probably early january, Subject nas

standirus in the lunch roun line (Subjoot almaja rajorred to 1t as the luron

room rather than a cafeteria) when he saw MARTIN together with an attrac-

tIve yourg airi abolit tranty or luent;-one jears

of aze.

They stopped io

ohat for a linent and MARTIN Introduaed Alla Aleksanirovna KOZLOVA.

subjeot

emphasized lhat unis was entiruly casual and that their conversation at this

meeting lasted for only a fen mocenus.. A few days or possioly a week later

MARTIN saw jubjoat in the lwich room and bentioned that "Alla" had found

him quite a handsone individual. MARTIN soationed this oaly in passing and

in no way, as far as Subjeot has concerned, auteupted to force "Alla" on suù-

"Alla" and during the following

Pon daya nado several inquirles anong is soviet colleagues in the Inst1-

No ond lad anything partioular to say about her other than that she

was rathor dolive socially and had vary friends in the Institute. At this

point Subjoot did not know where she worked at the Institute.

sonetime during the latter part of January 1964 SUjeot had his

first date with "Alla."

Subjeat couid not recall exsatly how this was ar-

ranged, but belleves that he met her in the lunch room and asked her to go'

on a troika ride with him.

This was followed by five or six other dates

with her ovor the next seven or eight weeko. Trey went to a film

onod, the

Bolstoy onou, the upera onde and restaliants on two or three occasions.

Afler a while Subjeot notloed that she was partioularly interested

in his Soviet friends and other contaots in the Soviut Union.

Por example,

on the evening they attorded the Bolahoy, Subleat notloed hia friend willlam

(8B112) PARRIS, an Anerloan exchango student at the Mosoon State Univeraity.

Subject had known him at Princeton University. Subjeot said,

"What did you say abuut SOKOLOVSKIY?" In other

woris, she knen porfeutly woll that SOKOLOVSKIY and Willias MANTIN here one

and the samo. She was obvioualy embarrasud and tried without success to

oover up her blunder.

MANTIN lator told Subjeat that "Alla" had oalled him

that evening to call him of her blunder.

She algo onoe asiod Subjeot 1f to

were really going to return to the United Intos. Inis couid, of course, be

interpreted as A defeation pitah. Suojeat feele that 1t mas more of a

casual personai. remark:

10.

Acoording to Subjoot, "Alla" seened to lum to ba suah too friendly,

willo at the sane time not sinourely friendly.

In february, Subjoot's. sus-

ploions had mounted to the poirt whore he deuided to ask. his Soviet 0ol-

league In the Instituto, Ilja ROYZIN (phonetia), 1f he oould check with

some of his contaots to determine if "Alla" vas in faot being usod against

him for sone purpose, Subjeat alained that he already ken at this point

through con'ersations with his Soviet colleagued liat Roxili could sheuk

without bringing it to anyone's attention.

Shortly afterwards, ROYLIN re-

turned to Subjoat with the advise to stop seuing her.

He castioned Sub-

joat that he should not mention to anyone that he had talkal to him and

certainly not to say anything. Subjeat claima that he stooped dating her

after this point, but did oocasionally see her in the lunch room. After

Subjeot stopped seeing her she called him at his hotel every two or three

days.

At no point did MARTIN really push Subjeat on continuing the relation-

8h1p.

Subjeot desoribed their relationship as perfectly natural for tho

young people interested in each other.

They selden discussed anything of

importands and never disoussed his work at the Institute.

Subjeat went.

home with ber to her apartment on two separate occasions. Onde she asked

him to spend the night with her, but he indicated that he should got back

to his hotel. Subjeot desoribed her as possibly a bit more forward sexually

than others that he had net, but that their relatlonship was perfeatly

normal and certainly nothing that could be used against hin sinoe he was

The apartment was actually her mother's, a che room apert-

ment with an alcove for the bed and a small kitchen.

Subjeat never met her

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subject does recall that her mother redle moriada, although he dis

not knon if the curst one had died or 1f Dey had tien divorces.

heard fron someans that her father worked for the 103.

subjest could pro

vide absolutaly no further Information on this polas..

"AlLa"

never seemed

to bo pasting the rolationship even

though she did soem ourlous about some

of Subject's friends.

Onos she mentloned to stibjest that they should not.

be seen togethor in the lunch mom slice this aught be a risk for her.

12.

Subjeat last saw "Alla" alone just before ho ieft the Soulet Union.

He was down town one day and net her bo cranod.

They stopped cor colfee

and chatied for artile. The only thing of any alerificancs rosed was tat

she had been disulased from the Lebeder Institute and was then working lar

Ministry of Porelin AffaIrE.

During the past surer, subjeat and Ravllich,

agaln visited Moscor for a reek (15-20 Juil 19F5).

They drove fron Irleste

to Prague and then on into Moscow via train.

Arrangerents Here nade through

Inturiato

They visired the Lebedev Institute for a day, as woll as, friends

In Monsoda. Nothing coourred on this vialt of any partloular note.

Subjeet

promised to prepare a written report on this trip during the next two or

three reeks and k1ll pass 1t to the underaigned via the Consulato In Trlasta.

Posalbly aftor reviewing this report we ray have further questions.

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his return, subjeat has reorived a brief lotter fros "Alla" in elementary

Gernan stating slaply that the had heard that he had beon In Moscon and

that sho was sorry that they had not soon each othor. The return address

Indroated that she had novad:

Foskya #-30

Profao jussaja U1.15

Kwartira 10

13.

Subject's rosponses to the questions contained In the "Personality

Data Debrioring Oulde"

prodused the following additional Information:

A. Besto Blographlo Data

(1)

Nand:

Alla Aleksandrovna KOZLOVA.

(2)

Niakramos:

None other than "Alla".

(3)

DPOB:

subject was not certain but bellaves that

sha was born in Mosoon and had always lived tbaro:

He did not know her exzot late of birth. llo estimatod

that 1t must have hoen about 1971.

(4)

(5)

(6)

C1t1z0n8hip:

Soviet

Iden Doousents:

Subjeot. never san any of her.doouronts.

Father:

23 noted abova. Alla's nother had had two.

husbando. He assumes that one mas Alla's father.

Her

father was also supposedly working for tha Kas, adoord-

(7)

1rug to FARTIN.

Molher: Subjoct nover not her. Subject only know that

Alla lived kith hor nother in the apartment in ubich he

(8)

had visited.

siblings: Subjeat does not think that sho had any s1b-

.11ngs.

(9)

Spouse: Never married.

• (10)

Edusation:

Subjeot knew that she had had some speolal-

lied training after completing high school, but does not

(11)

belleve that she ever attended the University.

Religion:

Atheist.

She were a suall gold ordas given

to her by her grandmother, but Subjoct explained that

(12)

this had no religious neaning.

Languages:

Russian (native). She told Subject onde

that she planned to learn Jermar. Based on the brief

note In German redently received from her, sine appar-

•ently has made some prograss. she also spoie & very

I1ttle: English.

Subjat does not know 1f she bad ever

studied Engllsh

(13)

or where she might have lesrned 1t.

Employment: Subject did not know 1f she had ever

worked anywhere prior to joining the Lebeder Institute.

Subjeat did not know her exaot position there, though

she was ln the First Section or tizo Party Dfflee.

when he wet her just prior. to his departure, 'she

told

bin that she. had transierred to the Ministry of Foreigo

Affairs.

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Arrests:

lions known. PerIN case sentioned tuat

ahe had oned both caught tailing noney fran the

Institute, subjeot had been told that situstlons

such as this nore frequently used to enlist the

cooperatIon oi employees for reporting оп 1612006

employ00s, etc.

Bo

Physloal Desoript10s

(1)

Apparent ago:

20-21

(2)

(3)

holght:

ca.

100 lbs

Helght: Ca., 504"

(4)

Ethnla baorzround: Obviously slavia- high abook

bones and black hair.

(5)

(6)

(7)

Build:

slight

Complexion:

Heap: X0aok. Subjoot aided that she does dye

her hair and the na:ural coler could be anythingo:

(8)

Eyas: Light colored, Either blue or green.

(9)

NoBo: amall

(10)

Pace: Hound

(11) Lips: Medius

(12)

Peeth: Even and In good condition.

(13)

Clothea: Por a Rusalan girl certainly above average.

Subjeat felt that she dressod abore ber 1no0w0. He

(14)

had no evidenes, homever.

Health:

Subjoat a very athletio perzon and almays in

exosilent nealtho

A very bright and lively person.

(15) Speolal features: Nono

C. Currioulus V1tao

subjeot gould provide nothing supplementing that

alroady givon above.

Do Fersonal and Privare Data.

E.

(1)

Addresa:

Mosoon. Subjeat sald that he has prorided

the address previously.

Ho also has it liatod in his

diary which ha left with his mothor when he was home

last Christsas.

See abore for. ourrent address.

(2)

Tolapbone: Sha had a ielaphone in uss apartment.

Subjoot.dous not recall the number.

(3)

Apartment: See above, Subleat considered the apart-

ment nioe by Soviet standardo.

Subjeot was not sure

If the father lived there.

(4)

(5)

(6)

Servants: None.

Meals:

She usually. ate lunch at tha Lebeder Institute.

Dentist: Subjeot racalls that she one went to the

dentist while he was in Mosoon. He could not reeall

any dotalla.

(7)

Cluba: Subject was a member of the Konsonol and en-

Joyod visiting the Molodozanga Club on Gorkly Ul.

This Mas & olub primartly for members of the Korsoool

where they had avallable sany of the popular current

Western records:

(8)

(9)

(20)

(11)

(12)

•(13)

(14)

(15)

(26)

Sports: Skiiig, swimning and skating.

Theater: Enjojad the theater.

Vaoation: Every sunmer. Arranged through the Institute.

Hobbies: Amarican jazz.

Personal Irierds: Subjoot had no spoolflo infosuation.

Smokes: Subject does not believe that she smokes.

Aloobol: Norwal

Casual Sex:

see comment above.

Transportation: Usually toot taris, setro of the bus.

No oar.

(17)

Pinancial: Ascording: to Subjeat, she seemed to spend

noney faster thar abe earned 1t.

Politioal Data

(1)

Member of tha tomsouol.. Subject did not knon 1f she

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hal1 aay apedial wealtion, although she did contion

onde chet she had introduced s acone et a scoting

Indicating that ponsibly she haljad sons sort of post-

tlon.

Pa Job Dela - Fotaing other un already notod above.

O. K1800llanoous.

(1) Travel: the ondo visited Polaal with a student group.

14a In returning to tie toplo of MARTIN and Subjeot's contaot uith him,

subjeat reported that MIRIlY usually did nost of the talkins.

He diaoussed

11fe 1a the Soviet Union and frequently his atterpes to got a divoroe.

('ihon

Subject was in Kosoch 1n july ha loartes liat KirTIN had tinally receíved his

divoroe), MARIII onde told Subjeat tat he nas permittod to rsoelve Tlee and

Ulla wagazlnes-a0 10n8 81 be agreed not to shou tiam to anyone.

Subjeet and

PENNINGER onde referred to ine allegations that MARTIN and MITcHelL vera homo-

SexUALA. MIRIIN statod emuatloally toat thia ves not true. He sald that

ho bad soss sox problons, bit that he uns cortainly not a hososexual.

with

regary to his defcation, MhiTIN sald that he had contaated sassone prior lo

his defeation. Subjoot understood that no money was Involved and that MARTIN

liad not beon an inplads agorit.

15. With regard to Headquartert dealre for a personal assesment of

Subfeat, the alrounstanoes surrounding this meeting with subjeet did not

provide an opportunity for any sort of valld assessment.

le was sonstant-

ly on the edgo of his ohair fir the reasons previously

noted above.

As a

bright and unusually gifted joung theoretloal phyalolat he sponds much of

his tis trapped up in a vorid of his o. At the sama time be doos anjoy

skin diving, skiing and other sports. In some ways ho soone to

be rather

nalve.

Posalbly this 18 the trong terminology. A bettar vas of desorio-

Ing hia rould be to say that he is so tirolved in hla own field of spootal-

1zatlontiat ta simply has seyar taken 115e to perperly consider many of the

other problons ve lase in 11?0. In goinz over ta list of questions above

ho mentioned very proudly that he nas an athelot. At this point all of

these remarka are: probably seaningless. and should not be gluen any. waight

1n assERBIng subjeat for possible ruturo operational use.

The undersigand

expects that he will agaln bo in Trieste in tha not too distant future and

w1ll nake a point of havlag lusch or dinner with bin.

PossiblJ under moro

raleted arounstandes no cont obtaln a more objective ploture of him as as

Individual.

16. Il Headquarters has any specifle follox-up questions so will

try to ooter then when we see Subject agaln. We are at the point nou,

however, where any furthor questions should be rather specifio to ba

mantaziul. Though mush of the above 1a simply a revier of incormation

previoualy reported, no hopa that a foy of the non details will be of

SODe value tO ODDIVY and Headquarters.

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