Agency: FBI
Originator: FBI
From: SAC, BU
To: THILL, EDWARD J.
Document date: 2/12/64
Document type: PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

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JFK ASSASSINATION SYSTEM

IDENTIFICATION FORM

AGENCY INFORMATION

AGENCY: FBI

RECORD NUMBER: 124-10229-10491

RECORD SERIES: BU

AGENCY FILE_NUMBER: 62-1827-62

Released under the John

F. Kennedy

Assassination Records

Collection Act of 1992

144 USC 2107 Notel.

Case#:NU 53130 Date:

06-01-2017

DOCUMENT INFORMATION

ORIGINATOR: FBI

FROM:

TO:

TITLE:

THILL, EDWARD J.

SẠC, BU

DATE: 02/12/1964

PAGES: 6

SUBJECT: CP, ACT

DOCUMENT_ TYPE:

ORIGINAL

CLASSIFICATION:

PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

Unclassified

REVIEW DATE:

11/05/1998

STATUS

Redact

NEW

CLASSIFICATION:

UPDATE DATE: 02/14/2001

RESTRICTIONS:

JFK Act 6 (4)

COMMENTS:

HH 53130

DocId: 32179281

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United States Government

MEMORANDUM

Date:

JAN 17 1964

TO

FROM:

:SAC (100-4379-69)

SA EDWARD J. THILI

PULAST

SUBJECT:

CP, USA

NEW YORK DISTRICT

BUFFALO DIVISION

ORGANIZATION

IS - C

ATE, INPORMATION.

NRATURD

GED TROUET

WOTERS SHORN OCHA

Source

Reliabiltyi

Conceal

Date of

Activity

Date Furnished

Furnished To

Authenticated

Location

Has

furnishea reliable

information in the past

Yes

11/29/63.

xIu

SA EDWARD

J. THILL

12/12/63

(134-3714-19007(4)

BU 245-s furnished the following:

1

1

-

134-371AU00

100-13322 SY

100-14562 (ANN RUDER)

100-3934 ROSE TOURALCHUK

100-2080 (JOHN TOURALCHUK

82474

Classified

98037es6/ref

Declassity o

DADR

100-14568 (JOHN MC KENZIE

100-14507 IVORY MC KENZIE

100-11900 (MARTY ZELMAN

62-1827 (ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT KENNEDY)

100-2379- (SCURLY)EASURES)

100-11950: (COMINFIL NAACP)

100-4379-116 (COMMUNIST INFLUENCE

IN RACIAL MATTERS)

EJT : jny

(14)

Searched 2 Indexed

Indexed

'Serialized Filed

JAN 171964

FBI-BUFFALO

NW 53130 DooId:32179281

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BU 100-4379-69

"Buffalo;

ew York

November 29',

1063 014

"On the evening of November 27, 1963;

a meeting of the Erie County

Communist Party

took place at the home of Sy Rudner who lives

on st. James Place in Burfalo. Present were

Sy and Ann Rudner, Rose and John Touralchuk.

John and Ivory Mokenzie, and Marty Zelman. &f4

"They talked about the murder of

President Kennedy. They took the position

that it was not reported in the newspapers,

but it was actually done by others in Texas,

especially those on the far Right..

They

also thought that the murder of Lee oswald.

the accused killer of President Kennedy, was

a cover-up and that the police coula have

They looked upon

President Kennedy's death and Oswald's as a

big piot.

John McKerzie said that he belleved

Oswald killed Kennedy, but kas motive is

unknown.

Sy, Marty, and the Touralchuks said

that Oswald did not kill the late President,

but that he was framed and was being blamed

as the killer: (lu)

"They talked about Norm Roggow

still trying to get into the Communist Party;

They said that Norm does not act like a

Party person.

They criticized him for being

too open about the Party and failing to cover

his feelings about the Party. They suspect

him because he is so very busy about every-

thing and too anxious to get into the Party

and also too active in the National Association

for the Advancement of Colored People. All

this makes them suspicious of him.

They

don't plan to let him come into the Party,

but

they will continue to check further on

him.

(4)

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568001-3820

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United States Government

CONFIDENTIAL

MEMORANDUM

TO

: SAC, BUFFALO (100-4379)

FROM : SA EDWARD J. THILI

SUBJECT:

CP, USA

NEW YORK DISTRICT

BUFFALO DIVISION

IS - C

Date: FEB 121964

ATt IMEORMARIOM CONTAINED

NEARS SHORT OTHERNISE.

Class

Shed

9803-2004

de

Depiss it in foese

4 - New York (Info) (RM)

(1 - 100-26603,

CP, DISTRICT #2)

- 100-

BOB THOMPSON)

- 100-128817, CP MEMBERSHIP)

- 100-128823, DOMESTIC ADMINISTRATION ISSUES)

-

Buffalo

1-134-351A)

100-1168,

MIKE

CLUNE)

100-8822,

FRANCES CLUNE

100-12000, MARTY ZULIAN

9-19-91

200-11907, DOROTHY ZELMAN)

100-12077, MARIA ZELMAN)

61-81, ANDY ANDERBERG)

100-2080, JOHN TOURALCHUK)

100-3934

ROSE TOURALCHUK

100-14568. JOHN ME KENZIES

100-13322,

SY RUDER)

100-4379-63, FUNDS

100-4379-83, DOMESTIC ADMINISTRATION ISSUES)

100-4379-88, FACTIONALISM)

- 100-4379-68, MEMBERSHIP)

62-1827, ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT KENNEDY)

100-4379-116: COMMUNIST INFLUENCE

IN RACIAL MATTERS)

bUT:jny

(22)

62-1827-62

'Searched.

Indexed

'Serialized hAFiled frau

FEB 121964

FBI-BUFFALO

CONTMENTIAL

NH 53130

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10229-70497

BU 100-4379

(BU 240-S JM(4)

Source

Reliability

Has furnished reliable

information in the past

Conceal

Yes

Date of Activity

(1/22/64 CAU

Date Furnished

1/25/64

Furnished To

*SA EDWARD &. THILL

Authenticated

1/30/64

Location

(134-3514-580] 6(w)

Bu 240-s furnished the following: 0d

"Buffalo, New

York

January 25, 1964

"On Wednesday

• evening, January 22,

1964, a memorship meeting of the Erie County

Communist Party took place at the home of Mike

and Frances Clune, Stratiord Road, Buffalo,

New York.

Present

at the meeting were

Mike and

Frances Clue, Marty and Dorothy Zelman, Marie

Zelman, Andy Anderberg, Johr and Rose Touralchui,

John McKenzie, and Sy Rudner.

Mike Clune

chaired the meeting which had on the agenda:

1(u)

Committee

i Peat am in enemies sorte

(2) Financial report

"The report regarding the New York

State Commurist Party Conmittee meeting recently

attended by Marty Zelman was given by Marty.

Marty talked as follows: (

"The State Committee meeting was

chaired by Bob Thompson.

Marty was greatly

impressed by the manner in which Thompson

carried out, the role.of

Chairman of this

mesting. Thompson made these points: 4)

"The Party is not reaching the masses Notia

because Party people are conceirating on one

specific: thing as it did on the Freedoin March.

In truth, the Party should work on many fronts

to be more effective.

The Party presently 1o(gt(u)

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