Originator: HSCA
From: FRUGE, FRANCIS LOUIS
Document date: 04/07/1978
Document type: SUMMARY

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JFK Assassination System

Identification Form

Agency Information

Date:

10/6/201

AGENCY: HSCA

RECORD NUMBER: 180-10106-10014

RECORD SERIES: NUMBERED FILES

AGENCY FILE NUMBER: 014141

Released under the John F. Kennedy

Assassination Records Collection Act of

1992 (44 USC 2107 Note). Case#:NW

69261 Date: 09-01-2022

Document Information

ORIGINATOR: HSCA

FROM: FRUGE, FRANCIS LOUIS

TITLE:

DATE:

PAGES:

SUBJECTS:

04/07/1978

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CHERAMIE, ROSE

ODOM, FRANK

FRUGE, FRANCIS LOUIS

DURHAM, NATHAN

DOCUMENT TYPE: SUMMARY

CLASSIFICATION: Unclassified

RESTRICTIONS: Open in Full

CURRENT STATUS: Redact

DATE OF LAST REVIEW: 08/09/1993

OPENING CRITERIA:

COMMENTS:

Box 251.

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KENNEDY

014141

INVESTIGATION INTERVIEW SCHEDULE

Identifying Information:

Name_ Mr. Francis Louis. Fruge

Address

Rt #1 Box 283

City/State Basile, La.

Date of Birth 8-25-27

Social Security 437-34-5383

Physical Description:

Height 68. 1"

Weight 170

Ethnic Group

White

Date 4-7-78

Place. Home

Telephone

318-432-5109

Mors M

Spouse

Children

Color Eyes Brn Hair Blk

Special Characteristics:

Personal History:

a. Present Employment:

Address Residence

Telephone Above

b. Criminal Record

1. Arrests

None

2.

Convictions

None

Additional Personal Information:

a. Relative(s) : Name

Address

Self Employed- 011 Lease Operator

b. Area frequented:

c. Remarks: See Attached interview sheet

Rober C'Busad.

Investigator

Date

Robert C. Buras Jr.

4/11/78

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SELECT COMMITTEE ON ASSASSINATIONS - Kennedy

NAME

Francis Louis Fruge

Address

Rt. te, BOX 283

Basile, La.

• Date

417/78

Time

10:00 a.m.

Place

• Residence

Interview:

Investigator Robert Buras met with Mr. Fruge at the

above time and date. Mr.. Fruge stated that he is self-employed

now but he was

a lieutenant with the Louisiana State Police from

1947 to 1967. He retired with twenty years' service.

In 1963 he handled Rose Cheramie in Eunice, La. as a

possible mental patient; then as an informant he worked with

her and the U.S. Customs from Houston, Texas. This occurred

from 11/20/63 through 11/27/63.

From 1965 through 1967, he assisted New Orleans

District Attorney Jim Garrison's investigator, Andy Sciambra,

in the Clinton-Jackson area of Louisiana.

From 1965 through 1967, he was assigned to the Louisiana

Sovereignty (State) Commission in Baton Rouge, La.

On Wednesday, November 20, 1963, at approximately

10:00 p.M.. Mr. Fruge was called to the emergency ward of the

Moosa Memorial Hospital in Eunice, La. by Mrs. Louise Guillory.

A patient, Rose Cheramie, was in the ward because she

had been struck by an auto on Highway 190 in front of the

Silver Slipper Lounge. She had only minor abrasions when she

Interviewer

(Signature)

Robert Buras

(Typed)

Date Transcribed 4/17/78 /am

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Francis Louis Fruge Interview... page 2

was brought into the hospital by the man that hit her, a

Mr. Frank Odom. Mr. Odom was known to Mr. Fruge and is a

long-time resident of the area. Mrs. Guillory called Lt.

Fruge because she thought that the patient was on drugs. She

could not be released due to her condition, so Lt. Fruge brought

her to the local jail and locked her up for safekeeping until

she sobered up. Rose Cheramie had been hitchhiking when she

was struck by Mr. Odom. A short while later, Lt. Fruge was

called to the local jail because Rose Cheramie had stripped

off all of her clothes and was "cutting up" in the cell. He

called a Lafayette Charity Hospital ambulance and accompanied

the driver as he transported Cheramie to the East Louisiana

State Hospital for examination. He took this action on the

advice of DI. Rodney Derouin, who met him at the jail and

sedated Cheramie.

The trip took about

two hours and during this time

Cheramie was calm and asked the usual questions about why

she was being held and where she was being taken. During this

trip, she was in a straightjacket.

Mr. Fruge stated that this

procedure was used on any person that showed signs of drug

withdrawal to the extent that they needed medical attention.

The people would be treated until their withdrawal symptoms

stopped and were then released.

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During the trip from Eunice to Jackson, Rose Cheramie

stated that she was just passing through town from Miami and

on her way to Dallas and Houston. She stated: "We're going

to kill President Kennedy when he comes to Dallas in a few days."

She talked about traveling with a couple of guys, but It. Fruge

did not take any of the conversation as serious due to her

condition. He admitted her to Jackson at about 3:00 a.m.

Thursday, November 21, 1963. She was still calm but she was put

into

a patient sack for her own protection.

On Friday, November 22, 1963, It. Fruge was at his home

when he heard that the President had been shot in Dallas. He

called the Hospital and found out that Cheramie was kicking up again

to the extent that he didn't think a trip or talk to her would be

fruitful. He asked the doctors at the Hospital to call him

when she calmed down. On Monday, November 25, he found out that

she was calmed down and he went to Jackson to talk with her.

She stated that she was coming from Miami with two men that

were either Cubans or Italians and she was going to go to

Dallas, then to Houston. The men were going to kill Kennedy

and she was going to check into the Rice Hotel, where reservations

were already made for her, and pick up 10 kilos of heroin from

a seaman coming into Galveston. She was to pick up the money

for the dope from a man who was holding her baby. She would

then take the dope to Mexico. Mr. Fruge could not remember the

name of the seaman that she gave, or the ship's name, or the

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Francis Louis Fruge Interview... page 4

name name that she used as an alias at the Hotel. He stated

that the U.S. Customs would have this information if anyone

checks with them.

It. Fruge told Col. Morgan of the State Police and he

told Col. Burbank. Col. Burbank was in charge of the State

Police at the time Burbank told them to check out the story.

Morgan and Fruge called Nathan Durham, Chief Customs Agent in

Port Arthur, Texas and gave him the name of the seaman and the

ship that Cheramie said the dope was coming in on. Durham

called back in about 30 minutes and confirmed that a ship was

coming into Galveston by that name and the seaman's name was on

the ship's roster. Col. Morgan called Will Fritz of the Dallas

Police Department and told him the story about the assassination

and the heroin, which had partly checked out.. Fritz told

Morgan that it was inthe hands of the Federal Agents and gave

Morgan a name to call. Morgan called the agent and was told

that they weren't interested at that time. They made plans to

meet with Nathan Durham in Houston to work the heroin. Rose

Cheramie, Fruge, Morgan and a State Police Pilot took the LASP

plane and flew to Houston on Tuesday. They worked with the

Customs people and attempted to get the dope. The Customs

people checked the Rice Hotel and reservations were made just

as Cheramie had said. The man that allegedly had the money and

her baby was checked and his name showed that he was an

underworld, suspected narcotics dealer.

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Francis Louis Fruge Interview...page 5

While flying to Texas in the plane, one of the men

had a daily newspaper and it had a headline or story title

that stated that Oswald and Ruby were not connected. Rose

Cheramie saw the headline and laughed. She told the men in

the plane that Oswald and Ruby were "bed partners" when she

worked for Ruby as a stripper. She stated that she worked for

Ruby, but Fruge does not remember the name of the bar that she

said she stripped at. It wasn't the Carousel. It had a name

with something like the Pink Door or Red DOOr. Fruge thinks

that this might have been checked later, but they didn't do any-

thing with it at that time.

When Cheramie was first picked up on the highway in

Eunice, La., she had two cardboard boxes of clothes and

belongings. Fruge looked in one of the two boxes and found

baby clothes and shoes. This led him to believe that she

at least had a baby, but he didn't check the boxes any further.

An Agent named Bob Woody checked into the Rice Hotel with

Cheramie and acted as her sugar daddy. An Agent was assigned

to follow the seaman. The seaman got onto a bus from Galveston

to Houston, but he lost the tail. No one contacted the room

at the Hotel and Rose Cheramie missed her time schedule. The

whole deal fell through on the dope. The Agent in charge of

Customs in Houston called the Agents, probably F.B.I., and asked

them if they wanted to talk to Cheramie. They didn't want to

speak with her so Fruge, Morgan and the pilot came back to

Baton Rouge. They cut Rose Cheramie loose in Houston. Mr.

Fruge forgot about the incident.

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In 1965 or '66, an investigator for Jim Garrison called

and asked about the above information. Lt. Fruge was loaned to

the Garrison investigation by the State Police.

Lt. Fruge

stated that a Dr. Person had somehow heard about the Cheramie

case and had called Garrison. Fruge then helped with some of

the interviews in Jackson and Clinton, La. He got a set of

photos from the Garrison investigation and went to the man who

managed the Silver Slipper Lounge, Mack Manuel. Mack Manuel

remembered the incident and stated that he had seen Rose Cheramie

talk to three men. Two men were with her and a third came in

later and talked to the others. Mack Manuel went through the

mug shots and other photos and picked out the two men that

were with Rose Cheramie the night that she was there. One

was Sergio Arcacha Smith and the other was a name like Assanto,

unknown if last or first name. The man who came in and talked

to them was identified by Manuel as John Paul Jennette. This

man, Jennette, might have talked to Assanto previously because

he died of a heart attack in Eunice, La. on February 18, 1978.

He was born in Worcester, Massachusetts on April 17, 1927.

His social security number was 026-20-6157. This man, Jennette,

might have known Assanto. Mack Manuel stated to Fruge that

Assanto (or a name like that) used to bring girls to the Silver

Slipper from Miami. The girls would work for a couple of weeks

and then go back. The name of the man should be in some reports

of Garrison's investigator. Mack Manuel was shot to death

in 1974-75 in Villeplatte, La.

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Fruge was asked in 1966 to attempt to find Rose Cheramie.

He learned that she was born in Houston, Texas and she died in a

small town in Texas in 1965. She was the victim of an auto hitting

her while she was either walking or hitchhiking on a highway.

Fruge found that the cause of death was listed as a fractured

skull and Jim Garrison wanted the body exhumed. Mr. Fruge stated

that the local authorities would not exhume the body and were

generally unfriendly. Mr. Fruge stated that he found it unusual

that a person would be hit by an auto and only have a fracture of

the skull without breaking any other bones in the body.

Mr. Fruge stated that he could not find any other records

of the driver that hit and killed Rose Cheramie except in the Police

Report and at the State Vehicle Office of Registration. He

checked the address given and no one at that address had ever

heard of the man. He states that someone might have found him

later but he (Fruge) doesn't remember hearing about it.

Mr. Fruge touched on a few other points that he remembered.

There was a Dr. Silva, who was born in Havana, Cuba, working at

the East Louisiana State Hospital in 1963. That is the only

year that he worked there and Mr. Fruge does not have information

nor does he imply that the doctor was involved in anything illegal.

Mr. Fruge only mentions him because he was from Cuba.

Mr. Fruge asked if this Committee had found that diagrams

of the sewer system in Dealey Plaza were found in Arcacha Smith's

apartment in Texas.

He thinks that Captain Will Fritz might have

mentioned something about that, but Mr. Fruge was not sure on this

point.

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Francis Louis Fruge Interview...page 8

Mr. Fruge stated that he had a letter in his possession

from Margarette Martens, the mother of Layton Martens, to a Father

Toups. The letter (a xerox copy) stated that Mrs. Martens heard

talk about killing President Kennedy among Ferrie, Shaw, and

Banister in 1963, but she denied that her son, Layton Martens, was

involved in the talk. This letter was written, to the best of

his memory, after Garrison called her son before the Grand Jury

in New Orleans. Mrs. Martens was dating David Ferrie -- or at

least was friendly with him. Mr. Fruge remembers checking on Mrs.

Martens and learning that Mr. Guy Banister had her committed to

Charity Hospital, New Orleans, then to Mandeville, Louisiana on

August 16, 1963. She was committed to Charity Hospital, New

Orleans again on November 30, 1966 by David Ferrie and Layton

Martens. Mr. Fruge and Andy Sciambra talked with her doctor,

whose name he doesn't remember. The doctor, a psychiatrist,

stated that Mrs. Martens was not insane. He didn't talk with

Mrs. Martens. These dates might or might not be significant, but

he mentions that in August 1963 Oswald was in New Orleans handing

out leaflets and this would be the time that she claims to have

heard the talk of killing the President. The 1966 date would be

about the time that talk was going around New Orleans that the

District Attorney was going to call people before the Grand Jury.

Father Toups is now deceased.

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Francis Louis Fruge Interview. ..page 9

Another point of interest to Mr. Fruge was a statement

by one Andy Dunn of Clinton, Louisiana. Mr. Dunn was sitting

across the street from the black vehicle that was parked by the

voter registration office. He remembered seeing three men in the

car -- two in front and one in the rear -- at the time that

Oswald was in line to register. That would mean that there is one

man that was in the car that has not been identified to this day.

Mr. Dunn, who was a local drunk, died in jail in Clinton a short

time later. Mr. Fruge does not have the report, but he remembers

the story that Mr. Dunn died by hanging himself while lying on his

bunk. He had a belt around his neck and around the head of the

bunk and he strangled while he was lying there. This has not been

verified to his knowledge.

Mr. Henry Sybly of Denin Springs or Hammond, Louisiana

was the chairman of the State Sovereignty Commission. Mr. Fruge

doesn't remember anything about Mr. Guy Banister's files ever

being brought there. It is possible that files were there that

he did not know about. Mr. Fruge stated that he never worked with

retired Major Russell Willie of the Louisiana State Police while

he was with the Commission.

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Ir. Francis Louis Fruge

Rt #1 Box 283

Basile, La.

8-25-27

437-34-5383

4-7-78

Home

318-432-5109

M

68 1".

170

Brn

BIk

White

Self Employed- 011 Lease Operator

Residence

Above

None

•None

See Attached.interview sheet.

Robert. C. Buras.ur.

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Mr. Francis Louis Fruge

Rt 1 Box 283

Basile, La.

4-7-78

Residence

10:00AM

Investigator Robert Buras met with Mr. Fruge on the above time and

date. Mr. Fruge stated that he is self employed now but he was

a Lleutenant with the Louisiana State Police from 1947 to 1967.

He retired with twenty years service.

In 1963 he handled Roses Cheranies in Eunice, La. as a possible

mental patient then as an informant he worked with her and the

U.S. Customs from Houston, Texas. This occurred from 11-20-633)

thru 11027-632

In 1965 thru 1967 he assisted New Orleans District Attorney Jim

Garrison's Investigator Andy Sciambra in the ClintonéJackson

area of Louisiana.

In 1965 thru 1967 he was assigned to the Louisiana Sovereignty

(State) Commission in Baton Houge, La.

On Wednesday Nov. 20, 1963 at approx. 10:00PM Mr. Fruge was called

to the Moosa Memorial Hospital in Eunice, La. by Mrs. Loulse

Guillory, to the emrgency warde

A patient, Rose Cheramie, was 1n

the ward because she had been struck by an auto on highway: 190.

in front of the Silver Slipper. Lounge, She had only minor abrasions

when she was brought into the hospital by the man that hit her, a

Mr. Frank Odom. Fir. Odom was known to Mir. Fruge and is a long time

resident of the area.

Mrs. Guillory called It. Fruge because she

thought that the patient was on drugs.

due to her condition so Lt. Fruge brought her to the local jail and

locked her up for safe keeping until she sobered up. Rose Cheramie

had been hitchiking when she was struck by Mr.. Odom. A short while

later It. Fruge was called to the local jail because Rose Cheramie

had stripped off all of her clothes and was cutting up in the cell.

He called a Lafayette Charity Hospital ambulance and accompanied

the driver as he transported Cheramie to the East Louisiana State

Hoppital for examination. He took this action of the advise of Drit.

Rodney Derouin who met him at the jail and sedated Cheramie..

Robert Buras

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Interview Mr. Frank Fruge

The trip took about two hours and during this time Cheramie was calm

and asked the usual questions about why she was being held and where

she was being taken.

During this trip she was in a straight jacket.

Mr. Fruge stated that this procedure was used on any person that

showed signs of drug withdrawal to the extent that they needed medical

attention.

The people would be treated until their withdrawal symptoms

stopped and released.

During the trip from Eunice to Jackson Rose Cheramie stated that she

was just passing through town from Miami and on her way to Dallas and

Houston.

She stated " Weire going to kill president dennedy when he

comes to Dallas In a few days"

She talked about traveling with a

couple of guys but it. Fruge did not take any of the conversation as

serious due to her condition.

He admitted her to Jackson at about

-3:00AM Thursday, Nov. 21, 1963. She was still calm but she was puu

Into a patient sack for her own protection.

On Friday Nov. 22, 1963 Lt. Fruge was at bis home when he heard that

the President had been shot in Dallas. He called the hospital and

found out that Cheramie was kicking up again to the extent that he

didn't think a trip or talk to her would be fruitful. He asked the

doctors at the hospitas to call hin when she calmed down. On

Ngy. 25 he found out that she was calmed down and he went to Jackson

to talk with her. She stated that she was coming from Miami with

two men that were either Cubans or Italians and she was going to go

to Dallas then to Houston.

The men were going to kill Kennedy and

she was going to check into the Rice Hotel, where reservations were

already made for her, and pick up 10 kilos of herion from a seaman

coming into Calveston.

She was to pick up the money for the dope

from a man that was holding her baby. She would then take to the dope

mation 1f anyone checks with then.. g

It. Fruge told Col Morgan of the State Police and he told Col Burbank

Col. Burbank was in charge of the State Police at the time. Burbank

told them to check out the story.

Morgan and Fruge called

Nathan

Durhamy Chief Customs. Agent: In. Port Arthur Texas and gave him the

name of the seaman and the ship that Cherale saye the dope was cow-

ing in on. Durham callee back in about 30 minutes and confired

that a ship was coming into Galveston by that name and the seaman's

name was on the ships roster.

Colo-Morgan called Will Fritz of. the

Dallas Police Department and told him the story about the assassina-

tion and the herion which had partly checked out. Fritz tald Morgan

that it was in the hands of the Federal Agents and gave Morgan a

name to call.

Morgan called the agent and was told that they weren't

con't

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Interview Mr. Frank Fruge

interested at that time.

They made paans to meet with Natan Durham

in Houston to work the herion.

Rose Cheramie, Fruge, Morgan and a

State Police Pilot took the LASP plane and flew to Houston on lues.

day.

They worked with the Customs pople and attempted to get the ?

dope.

The customs people checked the Rice Hotel and reservations

were made just as Cheramie aad said.. The man that alledgedly had

the money and her baby was checked and his name showed that he was

an underworld, suspected narcotics dealer.

While flying to Texas

in the plane one of the men had a daily newspaper and if had a head

Iine of story title that stated that Oswald and Ruby were not con-

nected. Rose Cheramle saw the headline and laughed. She told the

men in the plane that. Oswald and. Ruby were " bod partners W. when y

she worked for Ruby as & stripper.. She stated that she worked for

Ruby but Fruge does not remember the name of the bar that she said

she stripped at.

It wasn't the Carousel. It had a name with some

thing like the Pink Door or Red Door..

Fruge. thinks that this might

have been checked later but they didn't dod anything with it at that

time. When Cheramle was first picked up on the highway in Eunice,

La, the had two cardboard boxes of clothes and belongings. Fruge.

looked in one of the two boxes and found baby clothes and shoes. This

led him to believe that she at least had a baby but he didn't check

the boxes any further.: An Agent named Bob Woody ghecked Into the

Rice Hotel with Cheramie and acted ag her sugar daddy. An Agnet

was assigned to follow the seaman..

The seaman got onto a bus from

Galveston to Houston but he lost the tail. No one contacted the roon

at the Hotel and Rose Cheramie missed her time schedule. The whole

deal fell through on the dops.. The Agent in charge of Customs In

Houston called the Agents, probably F.B.I. and asked them if they

wanted to talk to Cheramie. they didn't want to speak with her aso

fruge, Morgan and the Pilot came back to Baton louge. They cut Rose

Cheranie loose in Houston. Mr. Fruge forgot about the incident.

In 1905 or 66 an Investigator for Jim Garrison calls and asks about

the above information.

It. Fruge was loaned to the Garrison Inves

tigation by the State Police.

It. Fruge stated that a Dr. Person

had somehow heard about the Cheramie case and had called Garrison.

Fruge thenhelps with some of the Interviews in Jackson and Clinton

He got a set of photos from the Garrison investigation and went

to the man that managedthe. olver Slipper Lounge, Mack Manuel, Mack

Manuel remembered the incident and stated that he had seen Rose

Cheramie talk to three men.

Two men were with her and a third came:

in later and talked to the otherg.

Mack Manude went through the

mug shots and other photos and picked out the two men that were with

Rose Cheramie the night that she was there. One was Sergio Arcacha. :

Smith-and the other was a name like Assanto, unknown if last or first

name. The man that came in and talked to them was identified by

Manuel as John Paul Jennette. This man Jennette might have talked

to Assanto previously because he died of a heart attack in Eunice, La.

Con't

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Interview Mr. Frank Fruge

2-187878 of a heart attack. He was born in Worcester, Mass. 4-17-27.

His social security number was 026-20-6157.

This man, Jennette might

have known Assanto. Mack Manuel stated to Fruge that Assanto or name

like that used to bring girls to the Silver Slipper from Miami. The

girls would word for a couple of weeks and then go back. The name:

of the man should be in some reports of Garrison's investigator.

Mack Manuel was shot to death in 1974-5 in Villeplatte, La.

Fruge was asked in 1966 to attempt to find Rose Cheramie.

He learned

that she was born in Houston Texas and she died in a small town in

Fexas in 1965.

She was the victim of an auto hitting her while she

was either walking or hitchiking on a highway. Fruge found that the

ractured stayi

cause of death was listed as a fractured skull and Jin Garrison

wanted the body exhumed. Mr. Fruge stated that the local authorities

would not axhune the body and were generally unfriendly.

Mr. Fruge

stated that he found it unusual that a person could be hit by and

auto and only have a fracture of the skull without breaking

3 any other

bones in the body.

Mr. Fruge touched on a few other points that he remembered.

There

was a DI SIlva: that was born in Havana, Cuba working at the Basta

Louisiana State Hospital in 1963. That is the only year that he

worked there and Mr. Fruge does not have information nor does he

imply that the Dr. is Involved In anything Illegal. Mr. Fruge only

mentions him becuase he was from Cuba.

Mr. Fruge asked if this Connittee had found that diagrams of the

sewer systen In Dealy Plaza were found in Arcacha Smith's apart-

ment in Texas. He thinks that Captain Will Fritz might have men-

tioned something about that but Mr. Fruge was not sure on this point.

Mr. Fruge stated that he had a letter-in his possession from Mar-4

garette Martens:)the mother of layten Martens,.tosa Father: Toups."

The letter (a xerox copy) atated that Mrs. Martens heard talk about

killing_President. Kennedy.between Ferrie, Shady and Banister in

1963 but she denied that her son Layten Martens was involved in the

talk.

This lotter was written, to the best of his menory, after

Garrison called her son before the Grand Jury in New Orleans. Mrs.

Martens was dating David Ferrie of at least friendly with him.

Fruge remenkers checking on Mrs. Martens and learning that Mr. Guy k

Banister had her committed to tharity Hospital Ner Ureeans then to,

mandeville, la. an August lo, 1963. She was committed to Charity.

Hospital New Orleans again on Nove: 30, 1966 by David Ferrie and.

Layten Martens: 3 Mr. Fruge and Andy Sciambra talked with her doctor,

whose name he doesn't remember. The doctor, a psychatrist stated that

Mrs. Martens was not insane.

He didn't talk with Mrs. Martens.

These dates might or might not be significant but he mentions that

con't

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in August 1963 Oswald is in New Orleans handing out leaflets and

this would be the time that she claims to have heard the talk of

killing the President.

The 1966 date would be about the time that

talk is going around New Orleans that the District Attorney is go-

ing to call up people before the Grand Jury.

Father Toups is now deceased.

Mr. Fruge stated that he could not find any other records of the

driver that hit and killed Rose Cheramie except in the the Police

Report and at the State Vehicle Office of Registration.

the address given and no one at that address had ever heard of the

man. He states that someone might have found him later but he

(Fruge) doesn't remember hearing about it.

Found id gar t out he shed

Another point of interest to Mr. Fruge was a statement by one Andy

Dunn of Clinton, la.

Mr. Dunn was sitting across the street from

the black vehicle that was parked by the voter registration office.

He remembered seeing three men in the car. Two In front and one in

the rear at the time that Oswald was in line to register.

That would

mean that there is one man that was in the car that has not been

Identified to this day.

Mr. Dunn who was a local drunk died in jail

in Clinton a short time later. Mr. Fruge does not have the report

but be remembers the story that Mr. Dunn died by hanging himself

while lying on his bunk.

He had a belt around his neck and around

the head of the bunk and he strangled while he was laying there. Thi

has not been verified to his knowledge.

It

is possible that files were there that he did not know about. Mr.

Fruge stated that he never worked with retired Major Russell Willie

of the la. State Police while he was with the Commission.

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