Public Works and Safety Committee — Muskego, WI
Date: 2025-11-20

CITY OF MUSKEGO
PUBLIC WORKS AND SAFETY
COMMITTEE AGENDA
10/20/2025
5:30 PM
Muskego City Hall, W182 S8200 Racine Ave


CALL TO ORDER

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

ROLL CALL

STATEMENT OF PUBLIC NOTICE

STATUS OF PROJECTS
Discussion update. No formal action may be taken on the following:

 Road Program 2025
 PP/II 2024/2025 Project
 Police Chief Updates

UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following:

NEW BUSINESS
Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following:

 Golf View Estates Development Request for Ditches vs. Curb and Gutter
 Memo - Golf View Estates Development Request for Ditches vs. Curb and Gutter.pdf
 Aerial.pdf
 Golf View Yield Plan.pdf

NEW BUSINESS PLACED ON FILE
(The following items have been placed on file for staff review. Upon completion of review, staff will
submit a supplement detailing options and possible course action to committee members.)

COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW

ADJOURNMENT
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CITY OF MUSKEGO
PUBLIC WORKS AND SAFETY
COMMITTEE MINUTES
10/20/2025
5:30 PM
Muskego City Hall, W182 S8200 Racine Ave


CALL TO ORDER

Alderperson Madden called the meeting to order at 5:38 PM.

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

Those present recited the Pledge of Allegiance.

ROLL CALL

Present: Alderpersons Madden, Duelge and Decker; Scott Kroeger, Director of Public Works and
Development, Police Chief Westphal

Absent: None

STATEMENT OF PUBLIC NOTICE

The meeting was posted in accordance with open meeting laws on October 17, 2025.

STATUS OF PROJECTS
Discussion update. No formal action may be taken on the following:

Road Program 2025
Director Kroeger stated that the entire road program has been completed with the exception of one
punchlist item at the library, which the contractor is finishing. Lastly, the LRIP request for funds was
submitted to Waukesha County, which then goes to the WisDOT.

PP/II 2024/2025 Project
Director Kroeger explained the Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewerage District (MMSD) project is complete.
There are no more items on the punchlist and they are always monitoring for grass restoration and
sinkholes. Otherwise, the invoice reimbursements are being wrapped up and the program is completed
for the year.

Police Chief Updates
Police Chief Westphal commented on the crash that occurred on Saturday. A copy of the press release
has been shared. The Flock cameras that the Council funds is the reason the vehicle was able to be
located. There was a pursuit until the crash occurred. The driver was arrested and charged with
multiple offenses. The Police Chief explained that he takes this extremely seriously and will ensure
with the Waukesha County District Attorney that this person is held accountable.

This Wednesday (10/22/25), a concealed carry weapons class will be held in conjunction with the
Citizens Academy Alumni Association. Next Monday (10/27/25) there will be the Trunk-or-Treat event
at City Hall in the parking lot. The Police will be monitoring all the trick-or-treat events throughout the
City making sure those are all done in a safe capacity.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following:
There was no unfinished business discussed.

NEW BUSINESS
Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following:

Golf View Estates Development Request for Ditches vs. Curb and Gutter
Director Kroeger explained the location of Golf View Estates. In February 2024 there was a 19-lot
conservation subdivision approved by the Common Council. In April 2025 the Public Works and Safety
Committee approved the plan. Part of the conservation subdivision plan was a walking path that went
from Ryan Drive to Boxhorn Drive. The developer is now asking to change the subdivision from 19 lots
to 15 lots with lots now over an acre. In the Code if lots are greater than 44,000 square feet a
developer can ask this committee to waive the requirement for curb and gutter and replace that with
ditches. This is the only topic to be considered tonight. Whatever is decided will need to go back to
Plan Commission and Common Council for approval.

Alderperson Decker asked if it was originally approved for ditches. Director Kroeger said that the
original approval was curb and gutter with 19 lots.

Director Kroeger showed the members the original 15-lot and 19-lot yield plans and explained the rural
cross section has ditches where the urban cross section has curb and gutter. There would still be
water mains, sewer mains and rather than storm sewer there would be swales to move the water to the
detention ponds. The reason for the request is financial with curb and gutter being too costly to
construct.

The Planning and Engineering recommendation would be to keep the curb and gutter within the future
subdivision. Director Kroeger listed all of the recent developments in the vicinity that all have curb and
gutter including Muskego Lakes Estates, Champions Village, Mallard Reserve, Astor Hills and Boxhorn
Reserve. Director Kroeger also mentioned that if the ditches are approved the City does not maintain
the ditches. Staff likes curb and gutter due to the cleaner look and the maintenance issues of the
ditches. Curb and gutter also prevents issues of people parking on the edge of lawn areas which leads
to upset residents and can lead to erosion and rutting issues. The City still plows the road but does not
maintain the ditches.

Alderperson Madden asked if there are water issues in that area. Director Kroeger noted that there are
wetlands and the developer would still need to follow all DNR and MMSD with stormwater but just use
swales instead of storm sewer.

Alderperson Decker asked which does a better job of getting rid of storm water. Director Kroeger said
both ways work. It’s just a matter of the residents maintaining the swales. The City maintains the
storm sewers. Issues normally happen when the ditches are not maintained by the homeowners.

Alderperson Duelge asked how typical this type of development is. Director Kroeger stated that the
only recent developments are Madyson Court and Baseler Court which are about two to five acres.
These two developments also have wells, septic systems and they are also propane gas. These are on
the west side which is more rural. The last two developments on the western side are all curb and
gutter as well.

Alderperson Duelge clarified that the original request with curb and gutter was due to lot size. Director
Kroeger confirmed and said now with larger lots they can make the request for ditches.

Alderperson Decker asked what the impact of the August storms were on that area. Director Kroeger
was not aware as it is a farm field. Most impacts were north of Woods Road.
Jim Maloney, the engineer for the developer, said that Scott Kroeger covered everything. As for the
impact from the storms, he checked the road to see if the water topped Ryan Drive and it did not. They
like the looks of the curb and gutter also. However the path that is part of the subdivision added
$600,000 to the project that was not originally anticipated. By installing ditches and removing the curb
and storm sewer they are saving $300,000 to $400,000. The ditches help with storm water as the
runoff is better.

Alderperson Duelge asked where the path would be. Director Kroeger showed Alderperson Duelge the
path. Alderperson Duelge asked who forced the path upon the project. Director Kroeger explained that
the path was one of the reasons they did the conservation subdivision and were allowed the extra four
lots. Jim Duelge added that the path was an amenity that would allow for the four extra lots.
Alderperson Duelge said that by taking four lots away nothing changes with the path. Director Kroeger
said that they are looking at the curbing and any other changes would need to go back to Plan
Commission and Common Council.

Alderperson Duelge asked if there is a difference in lot price with curb and gutter verses ditches. Jim
Maloney said that what will help is sewer and water where curb and gutter is just personal preference.

Alderperson Madden knows the area well and she has concerns with the City not maintaining the
ditches because of issues throughout the City. She prefers the curb and gutter and would love the path
to be there.

Alderperson Decker said the boardwalk cost is associated with 19 lots. He then asked if they could
avoid the boardwalk cost by going back to the 15 lots. Jim Maloney confirmed.

Director Kroeger reiterated that they are here to discuss the curb and gutter verses ditches.

Alderperson Madden said there will be future development in the area. We are expecting that would all
be curb and gutter also correct. Director Kroeger said that typically developments occur with density
which would include curb and gutter.

Alderperson Decker asked that with 19 lots there is curb and gutter, with 15 lots there is ditches, is
there an option for 15 lots with curb and gutter? Director Kroeger said that based on the committee
decision, that will be the only option they have for 15 lots. Director Kroeger said that if the committee
says 15 lots with curb and gutter, then that is what they have to go with. Jim Maloney said that is how
the numbers work. Alderperson Decker asked how 15 lots with curb and gutter work for the developer.
Jim Maloney confirmed.

Alderperson Duelge said he does not have an issue with the request of going to 15 lots with ditches.

Alderperson Decker asked if there is a way the City can require that an HOA be put in place to ensure
the job is done. Director Kroeger said there will be language on the plat and in the Developer’s
Agreement that the responsibility will be on the owners.

Alderperson Duelge made a motion to approve the request of allowing 15 lots with ditches
rather than curb and gutter. Alderperson Decker seconded.

Motion Passed 2 in favor 1 opposed.

NEW BUSINESS PLACED ON FILE
(The following items have been placed on file for staff review. Upon completion of review, staff
will submit a supplement detailing options and possible course action to committee members.)

COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW

ADJOURNMENT
 Alderperson Duelge made a motion to adjourn at 6:06 PM. Alderperson Madden
 seconded.

 Motion Passed unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted,

Wendy Fredlund
Recording Secretary