Vehicle for Hire Licensing Board — Burlington, VT
Date: 2024-01-30
Time: 17:00

Vehicle for Hire Licensing Board




 Tuesday, January 30, 2024, 5:00 PM, Queen City Room, City Hall, 149 Church St.

 Burlington, VT 05401 or Remotely via Zoom. *Cancelled*
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1. Agenda
 Subject 1.1. Motion to amend/adopt agenda
 Meeting January 30, 2024 - *Cancelled* Special Vehicle for Hire Licensing Board - Tuesday,
 January 30, 2024, 5:00 PM, Queen City Room, City Hall, 149 Church St. Burlington, VT

 05401 or Remotely via Zoom. *Cancelled*
 Category 1. Agenda

 Department


 Type

 Recommended Action

2. Previous Minutes
 Subject 2.1. Previous minutes approval
  Meeting January 30, 2024 - *Cancelled* Special Vehicle for Hire Licensing Board - Tuesday,
 January 30, 2024, 5:00 PM, Queen City Room, City Hall, 149 Church St. Burlington, VT

 05401 or Remotely via Zoom. *Cancelled*
  Category 2. Previous Minutes

  Department Clerk/Treasurer's Office


  Type

  Recommended Action

3. Discussion
  Subject 3.1. Discussion on new meter rate plan
  Meeting January 30, 2024 - *Cancelled* Special Vehicle for Hire Licensing Board - Tuesday,
 January 30, 2024, 5:00 PM, Queen City Room, City Hall, 149 Church St. Burlington, VT

 05401 or Remotely via Zoom. *Cancelled*
  Category 3. Discussion

  Department Clerk/Treasurer's Office


  Type

  Recommended Action

4. Adjournment
  Subject 4.1. Motion to adjourn
  Meeting January 30, 2024 - *Cancelled* Special Vehicle for Hire Licensing Board - Tuesday,
 January 30, 2024, 5:00 PM, Queen City Room, City Hall, 149 Church St. Burlington, VT

 05401 or Remotely via Zoom. *Cancelled*
  Category 4. Adjournment

  Department Council and Board


  Type

  Recommended Action

Vehicle for Hire Licensing Board




 Tuesday, January 30, 2024, 5:00 PM, Queen City Room, City Hall, 149 Church St.
 Burlington, VT 05401 or Remotely via Zoom.

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Meeting ID: 924 3434 5393
Passcode: 247547

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1. Agenda
 Subject 1.1. Motion to amend/adopt agenda
 Meeting January 30, 2024 - Special Vehicle for Hire Licensing Board - Tuesday, January 30,
 2024, 5:00 PM, Queen City Room, City Hall, 149 Church St. Burlington, VT 05401 or
 Remotely via Zoom.


 Category 1. Agenda

 Department


 Type

 Recommended Action

2. Previous Minutes
 Subject 2.1. Previous minutes approval
 Meeting January 30, 2024 - Special Vehicle for Hire Licensing Board - Tuesday, January 30,
 2024, 5:00 PM, Queen City Room, City Hall, 149 Church St. Burlington, VT 05401 or
 Remotely via Zoom.


 Category 2. Previous Minutes


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  Department Clerk/Treasurer's Office


  Type

  Recommended Action

3. Discussion
  Subject 3.1. Discussion on new meter rate plan
  Meeting January 30, 2024 - Special Vehicle for Hire Licensing Board - Tuesday, January 30,
 2024, 5:00 PM, Queen City Room, City Hall, 149 Church St. Burlington, VT 05401 or
 Remotely via Zoom.


  Category 3. Discussion

  Department Clerk/Treasurer's Office


  Type

  Recommended Action

4. Adjournment
  Subject 4.1. Motion to adjourn
  Meeting January 30, 2024 - Special Vehicle for Hire Licensing Board - Tuesday, January 30,
 2024, 5:00 PM, Queen City Room, City Hall, 149 Church St. Burlington, VT 05401 or
 Remotely via Zoom.


  Category 4. Adjournment

  Department Council and Board


  Type

  Recommended Action




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 BURLINGTON VEHICLE FOR HIRE LICENSING BOARD
 QUEEN CITY ROOM, 3RD FLOOR, CITY HALL, 149 CHURCH ST.
 MINUTES OF MEETING
 January 22, 2024

 Member Present: Paul Hines, Youness Jamil, Stephen Hamlin

 Also present: Hayley McClenahan, Tenzin Chokden

Meeting start time: 5:39p



1. Agenda

1.1. Motion to amend/adopt agenda

Motion to accept the agenda by Stephen Hamlin, seconded by Youness Jamil.
Approved unanimously.


2. Previous Minutes

2.1. Previous Minutes Approval

Motion to accept the previous minutes by Stephen Hamlin, seconded by Youness Jamil.
Approved unanimously.




3. Ordinance Update

3.1. Ordinance update

According to Paul Hines, some elements of the ordinance appeared out of date or were not followed. He
wants to propose two ordinance changes but believes they can only make recommendations as a board.
He asked if that was correct.

Hayley McClenahan responded that the board can recommend and contact the Transportation Energy
Utilities Committee or the Ordinance Committee (TEUC), but it would be preferable for the board to
work with TECU because they are more familiar with the situation, and they are the board that would
step in if the VFH board fell short of quorum. She can help edit and review the ordinance before
submitting it to the city council for final approval.




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Paul Hines suggested updating the definitions of taxicab and vehicle for hire, as well as removing the
roof light from the taxicab description.

Hayley McClenahan stated that this would cause confusion in the ordinance because all taxis are
vehicles for hire, and not all vehicles for hire are not taxis.

Paul Hines proposed requiring taxis in the queue line to use their meters. According to him, the
ordinance already requires taxicabs to use meters when they are at taxi stands or hailing from the street.

Hayley McClenahan suggested that if the board intends to update airport rules, it should update
Appendix E in the ordinance. Otherwise, taxis may operate as vehicles for hire if the fare was discussed
and agreed upon by both parties before entering the cab. Previously, the definition of street hail was
interpreted as a customer getting into a cab and beginning the ride. Paul Hines proposed the taxis at the
airport queue must use their taxi meter and it’s not right for people who are visiting the city to have to
negotiate with drivers at fair prices and it doesn’t look good for the city. He added that it states in other
language that you are required to have meters if you hold a queue permit.

Youness Jamil agreed and he knows there are taxis in the airport queue line who don’t have meters and
charge flat fees.

Stephen Hamlin agreed.

Paul suggested updating the ordinance and Appendix E of the city ordinance governing airport rules and
regulations. Drivers must allow riders to pay with credit cards, and they are not permitted to refuse
service if a credit card is requested. They must also provide a receipt.

Hayley McClenahan stated that the board can certainly make recommendations to the TEUC and
Ordinance Committee, but the city attorney will conduct research and determine whether the decision is
within the authority of the city council.

Stephen Hamlin proposed that board chair Paul Hines collaborate with city staff to develop a memo on
the aforementioned ordinance changes. Youness Jamil seconded it.
Approved unanimously.




4. New Meter Rate
4. New Meter Rate

Tenzin Chokden suggested giving all business owners 45 days to notify them of any changes to meter
rates, as there is no one here locally.

Stephen Hamlin suggested that the new meter rate be reflected beginning March 15th.

Tenzin Chokden questioned how we would ensure that the new rates set in each taxi were accurate.
Would it be appropriate for business owners to change their meter rate and certify that the rates have



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been changed? Is there a provision in the ordinance that specifies who can change the rate?

Hayley McClenahan responded that while the ordinance does not state anything specific, the board has
the authority to establish rules and regulations in the future.

Paul Hines suggested that we notify business owners of the new meter rate, and that the board develop
rules and regulations regarding meter calibration. He asked Youness Jamil if he was concerned about
that.

Youness Jamil agreed that before announcing the new meter rate, the board should first determine the
rules and regulations governing meter calibration to avoid driver confusion.

Paul Hines suggested we allow the new meter rate, sent notices out and follow up with guidelines to
meter calibration.

Hayley McClenahan agreed that the board could do so and solicit feedback from business owners on
meter calibration and standards.

Tenzin Chokden asked if the board would be okay with business owners getting their meters calibrated
and changing the rate themselves and submitting some sort of certification, such as a sworn statement or
a technician's certification.

Paul Hines and Stephen Hamlin both liked the concept.

Stephen Hamlin moved for this board to approve the meter rate effective 03/15/24, and that the meter
rates be updated by providing a certification, and that new guidelines on meter calibration be presented
in the future.

Paul Hines seconded to go into further discussion on this motion.

Youness Jamil stated that he knows a driver in town who knows how to calibrate the meter and asked if
the board would grant authority to change meter rates in other taxicabs.

Tenzin Chokden asked Hayley if this was permitted.

Hayley McClenahan responded that there is nothing in the ordinance that specifies who can calibrate
meters. The board can either refer to a certified technician or allow business owners to self-certify their
meter calibrations. She suggested that the board work on rules and regulations regarding meter
calibration.

Youness Jamil suggested that we watch this Alpha Taxi driver demonstrate how to change the meter
rate and see if it is correct, after which he can do it for others.

Tenzin Chokden recalled a previous conversation with the Centrodyne support team about training
someone or an entity on how to calibrate meters and provide certification. He asked if that convinced
the board to allow this Alpha Taxi driver to calibrate all meters in Burlington if he received his
certification. He can gather additional information about training and report back to the board.
Paul Hines asked if that would be something he could do and discuss next week.




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Tenzin Chokden said he would find out the information and let the board know.

The motion was tabled until the next meeting on Tuesday, 01/30 at 5:00p.




5. Public Forum


No members from the public comment.
6. New Business
6. New Business


None


7. Adjournment
7. Adjournment

7.1. Motion to adjourn
 The motion to adjourn by Stephen Hamlin, seconded by Youness Jamil.
Approved unanimously.




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