Historic Preservation Commission — Naperville, IL
Date: 2022-12-01

400 S. Eagle Street
 City of Naperville Naperville, IL 60540



 Meeting Agenda

 Historic Preservation Commission

Thursday, December 1, 2022 7:00 PM Lunchroom



TO PROVIDE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT, TESTIMONY, OR TO CROSS-EXAMINE WITNESSES
DURING THE MEETING: To address the Historic Preservation Commission (HPC) in-person
during the meeting in the lunchroom, members of the public will be called on during the meeting
by the Chairman.

TO SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS OR MATERIALS:
1. You may submit written comments to planning@naperville.il.us in advance of the meeting.
(Please note, because emailed written comments are available for advance review by the HPC,
they will not be read into the record during the HPC hearing). Below are the deadlines for written
comments provided in advance of the meeting:
• Written comments received by 5:00 p.m. the Thursday before the meeting, will be included in
the meeting packet sent to the HPC. This meeting packet is also posted on the City’s website.
• Written comments received after 5:00 p.m. the Thursday before the meeting, through 5:00
p.m. the day before the meeting, will be emailed directly to the HPC, but will not be included in the
HPC packet or posted online.
• Written comments received after 5:00 p.m. the day before the meeting, will be added to the
case file.

PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION:
Any individual who may require an accommodation to listen to or participate in the meeting
should contact the Community Services Department at (630) 305-5300 as soon as possible, but
no later than by 5 p.m. on the day of the meeting.

PARTICIPATION GUIDELINES:
The citizen participation guidelines are outlined in 1-5-6-6: - CITIZEN PARTICIPATION of the
Naperville Municipal Code.

• ALL VIEWPOINTS AND OPINIONS WELCOME: All viewpoints are welcome, positive
comments and constructive criticism are encouraged. Speakers must refrain from harassing or
directing threats or personal attacks at Commission members, staff, other speakers or members
of the public. Comments made to intentionally disrupt the meeting may be managed as
necessary to maintain appropriate decorum and allow for city business to be accomplished.

• The HPC will call on you at the appropriate time during the meeting to speak. Once you are
called on, you may identify yourself for the public record and address remarks to the Historic
Preservation Commission as a whole. Speak clearly and try to limit remarks directly to the matter
under discussion.


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A. CALL TO ORDER:

B. ROLL CALL:

C. PUBLIC FORUM:

D. OLD BUSINESS:

E. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
1. 22-1434 Consider the Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) for 223 Center Street -
 COA 22-4462

F. REPORTS
1. 22-1448 Provide a recommendation regarding the proposed amendments to
 Chapter 11 (Historic Preservation) of Title 6 (Zoning Ordinance) regarding
 the Designation of Landmarks and owner consent - PZC 22-1-113

2. 22-1430 Approve the minutes of the September 22, 2022, Historic Preservation
 Commission meeting

G. NEW BUSINESS:

H. ADJOURNMENT:




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400 S. Eagle Street
 City of Naperville Naperville, IL 60540



 Meeting Minutes

 Historic Preservation Commission


Thursday, December 1, 2022 7:00 PM Lunchroom


TO PROVIDE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT, TESTIMONY, OR TO CROSS-EXAMINE WITNESSES
DURING THE MEETING: To address the Historic Preservation Commission (HPC) in-person
during the meeting in the lunchroom, members of the public will be called on during the meeting
by the Chairman.

TO SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS OR MATERIALS:
1. You may submit written comments to planning@naperville.il.us in advance of the meeting.
(Please note, because emailed written comments are available for advance review by the HPC,
they will not be read into the record during the HPC hearing). Below are the deadlines for written
comments provided in advance of the meeting:
• Written comments received by 5:00 p.m. the Thursday before the meeting, will be included in
the meeting packet sent to the HPC. This meeting packet is also posted on the City’s website.
• Written comments received after 5:00 p.m. the Thursday before the meeting, through 5:00
p.m. the day before the meeting, will be emailed directly to the HPC, but will not be included in the
HPC packet or posted online.
• Written comments received after 5:00 p.m. the day before the meeting, will be added to the
case file.

PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION:
Any individual who may require an accommodation to listen to or participate in the meeting
should contact the Community Services Department at (630) 305-5300 as soon as possible, but
no later than by 5 p.m. on the day of the meeting.

PARTICIPATION GUIDELINES:
The citizen participation guidelines are outlined in 1-5-6-6: - CITIZEN PARTICIPATION of the
Naperville Municipal Code.

• ALL VIEWPOINTS AND OPINIONS WELCOME: All viewpoints are welcome, positive
comments and constructive criticism are encouraged. Speakers must refrain from harassing or
directing threats or personal attacks at Commission members, staff, other speakers or members
of the public. Comments made to intentionally disrupt the meeting may be managed as
necessary to maintain appropriate decorum and allow for city business to be accomplished.

• The HPC will call on you at the appropriate time during the meeting to speak. Once you are
called on, you may identify yourself for the public record and address remarks to the Historic
Preservation Commission as a whole. Speak clearly and try to limit remarks directly to the matter
under discussion.

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A. CALL TO ORDER:

B. ROLL CALL:
 Present: Brown, Franczyk, Garrison (Secretary), Chairman Jacks, Councilman
 Kelly (non-voting), Vice Chairwoman Ory, Robbins, Sack (non-voting), Santucci,
 and Wills

 Absent: Fawell

C. PUBLIC FORUM:

D. OLD BUSINESS:

E. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS

1. Consider the Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) for 223 Center Street - COA 22-4462

 Brandon Sanders presented the request.


 Public Testimony:


 There was no public testimony.


 Commissioner Brown asked what the specific increase in height
 would be.


 Sanders responded that the increase in height would be 36 inches.


 Commissioner Santucci asked if the star on the home would be
 maintained.


 Sanders responded that if it is historically significant it would be
 kept.


 Chairman Jacks asked if the low roof line over the front porch was
 original.


 Sanders responded that it is believed that the low roof line is
 original.


 Chairman Jacks asked if the south stairs proposed to be removed
 are original.


 Sanders responded that they are not original.


 Commissioner Santucci asked if they planned to re-side the entire


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 home, or just the new portion.


 Sanders responded that initially only the new portion would have
 new siding, but in the future, they would like to re-side the entire
 structure.


 Donna Sack, Vice President and Chief Program Officer of Naper
 Settlement, noted that the home is listed as contributing building
 on the National Register of Historic Places, so the owner may want
 to check with the Illinois office.

 A motion was made by Vice Chairwoman Ory and seconded by Commissioner
 Franczyk to approve COA 22-4462 for the proposed addition and removal of the
 south porch at 223 Center Street.

 Aye: Brown, Franczyk, Garrison, Chairman Jacks, Vice Chairwoman Ory,
 Robbins, Santucci, and Wills

 Nays: None

F. REPORTS

1. Provide a recommendation regarding the proposed amendments to Chapter 11 (Historic
 Preservation) of Title 6 (Zoning Ordinance) regarding the Designation of Landmarks and
 owner consent - PZC 22-1-113
 Allison Laff, Deputy Director, summarized the proposed text
 amendment.


 Public Testimony:


 Marilyn Schweitzer requested improving the language regarding
 City Council deliberation and scope of their discussion, changes in
 the amendment to support owner applicants to make their process
 clearer, and to focus more on the language surrounding the initial
 discussion with City Council to reduce rehashing of discussions over
 multiple meetings. Schweitzer noted overall support of the
 proposed changes, increased education, surveys of historic
 structures, and owner consent landmarking.


 Chairman Jacks noted appreciation for Schweitzer’s comments.


 Christine Jeffries, President of Naperville Development Partnership
 noted the City Council discussed a way to promote voluntary
 landmarking. Jefferies also described that Naperville Development
 Partnership has created a website, napervillelandmark.com, on
 landmarking and tax incentives available that they will update as
 well as the self-guided walking tours that promote education and
 voluntary landmarking.

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 Jane Burke, Naperville Preservation Inc., noted support for the text
 amendment and requested that Section 6-11-3:2 be edited to
 include an owner of record as someone who is able submit a
 landmark application, so it encourages homeowners to go through
 the process and there is a positive, proactive statement.


 Tim Messer noted that what was presented tonight is a good
 compromise and that there is frustration concerning the lack of
 education, marketing, and promotion of the Historic District.


 Vice Chairwoman Ory noted excitement for the collaboration and
 potential on the horizon to increase the status of the Historic
 District within the community as well as the quantity of landmarks.
 Vice Chairwoman Ory asked if there will be an updated survey
 conducted of historic buildings.


 Laff responded that staff addressed what City Council directed, but
 that the updated survey was one of the suggestions in the initial
 discussion.


 Vice Chairwoman Ory noted that a survey would be a great tool for
 everyone and agreement with the prior comments on components
 that should be changed in the amendment.


 Jane Burke asked who would direct the new survey.


 Donna Sack responded that the last survey took a significant amount
 of staff time, five or six staff members in addition to the
 consultants, and funding. Sack also noted that the 50-year criteria is
 a huge factor and there is a wealth of 20th century architecture in
 Naperville, so Naperville has a lot of catching up to do.


 Commissioner Wills asked if a resident could submit for a landmark.


 Vice Chair Ory responded that they would have to petition and get
 City Council support if there is not owner consent prior to
 submitting a Landmark Application under the new amendments.


 Laff responded that currently owner consent is not required.


 Commissioner Brown asked how much detail would be presented
 during the preliminary review.


 Laff responded that there should be limited investment for the
 applicant and owner and that the preliminary review should be kept

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 simple and to the key points.


 Donna Sack agreed with Schweitzer’s concerns with how City
 Council will make a decision without a starting point.


 Laff noted the intent of the code is not to bypass the HPC and that is
 the main concern in further defining the City Council review of a
 Request to Submit a Landmark Application without Owner Consent.


 Christine Jeffries added that the idea of property owner consent
 and the amendment was to provide a stop gap and that approval of
 a Request to Submit a Landmark Application without Owner
 Consent was for unusual circumstances where the applicant cannot
 wait for owner consent.


 Councilman Kelly noted that the current amendments are a good
 compromise that could be tweaked down the road.


 Chairman Jacks spoke of concern for the landmarking without
 owner consent and potential for cases to never make it to the HPC,
 but agreed that the current ordinance needs modernizing.


 Vice Chairwoman Ory responded that the new changes eliminate
 the opportunity for an individual to be the reason that time and
 money is invested to save a property.


 Chairman Jacks noted the Old Nichols library may be in a different
 place if it was reviewed in the present.


 Vice Chairwoman Ory responded that under the new ordinance, the
 request would go through the process and City Council would have
 said yes that it was a significant building.


 Laff responded that Old Nichol’s Library also had covenants
 associated with the building.


 Councilman Kelly added that the supermajority was an option that
 was originally discussed, but that was not supported by City Council.


 Commissioner Garrison agreed that there is an option with the
 amendments that a proposal does not go to the HPC, but that the
 changes are a reasonable alignment with multiple parts of the
 community.


 Commissioner Santucci noted that there should be consistency in
 the language so that all day requirements are calendar days and that

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 everything required to be sent by mail should be sent through
 certified mail.


 A motion was made by Vice Chairwoman Ory seconded by Commissioner
 Robbins to approve PZC 22-1-113, regarding the proposed amendments to
 Chapter 11 (Historic Preservation) of Title 6 (Zoning Ordinance) concerning the
 Designation of Landmarks and owner consent with revisions including a
 statement clarifying that an owner can submit an application, corrections to the
 reference errors, and consistency with the days and mailing requirements.

 Aye: Brown, Franczyk, Garrison, Chairman Jacks, Vice Chairwoman Ory,
 Robbins, Santucci, and Wills

 Nays: None

2. Approve the minutes of the September 22, 2022, Historic Preservation Commission
 meeting
 A motion was made by Vice Chairwoman Robbins seconded by Commissioner
 Santucci to approve the minutes of the September 22, 2022, Historic Preservation
 Commission meeting.

 Aye: Brown, Franczyk, Garrison, Chairman Jacks, Vice Chairwoman Ory,
 Robbins, Santucci, and Wills

 Nays: None

G. NEW BUSINESS:

H. ADJOURNMENT:
 A motion was made by Commissioner Robbins seconded by Commissioner
 Brown to adjourn the December 1, 2022, Historic Preservation Commission
 meeting at 7:52 pm.

 Aye: Brown, Franczyk, Garrison, Chairman Jacks, Vice Chairwoman Ory,
 Robbins, Santucci, and Wills

 Nays: None




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