Historic Preservation Commission — Naperville, IL
Date: 2020-05-28

400 S. Eagle Street
 City of Naperville Naperville, IL 60540



 Meeting Agenda

 Historic Preservation Commission

Thursday, May 28, 2020 7:00 PM Held on Zoom due to COVID-19



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A. CALL TO ORDER:

B. ROLL CALL:

C. PUBLIC FORUM:

D. OLD BUSINESS:

E. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
 20-634 Consider the Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) 127 South Columbia
 Street- COA 20-610

 20-635 Consider the Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) 209 North Brainard
 Street - COA 20-987

F. REPORTS
 20-639 Approve the minutes of the January 23, 2020 Historic Preservation
 Commission meeting

G. NEW BUSINESS:

H. ADJOURNMENT:


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400 S. Eagle Street
 City of Naperville Naperville, IL 60540



 Meeting Minutes

 Historic Preservation Commission


Thursday, May 28, 2020 7:00 PM Held on Zoom due to COVID-19


A. CALL TO ORDER:

B. ROLL CALL:

 Present: Doyle, Garrison, Vice Chair Jacks, Franczyk, Eveslage, Ory, Chairman
 Peterson, Urda, Councilman Kelly (non-voting), Howard (non-voting)
 Absent: Fessler, Mohammadian (student representative), Sanjay (student
 representative)


C. PUBLIC FORUM:

 Becky Simon from Naperville Preservation Inc. requested the Historic Preservation
 Commission use the Historic Building Design and Resource Manual to evaluate
 future development.


D. OLD BUSINESS:

E. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS

1. Consider the Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) 127 South Columbia Street- COA
 20-610
 Homeowners Matt and Jenifer McNichols presented the case and
 summarized the proposed additions to the home.


 Chairman Peterson asked clarifying questions concerning the
 proposed new chimney and its similarity to the existing chimney.


 Matt and Jenifer McNichols confirmed the new chimney would
 match the masonry and stucco of the existing chimney.


 Commissioner Ory asked if the dormer on the Chicago elevation is
 removed through the proposed changes.


 Jenifer McNichols confirmed the dormer is removed in the roofline
 but was added to the north elevation.



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 Vice Chair Jacks showed concern for the proposed second floor
 balcony.


 Commissioner Urda asked if they would feel more comfortable with
 a covered balcony.


 Matt and Jennifer McNichols explained the second story porch
 would be in the rear of the home and would be hidden in the
 roofline.


 Chairman Peterson noted that the addition is pretty far back on the
 property from the street which is difficult to see on the
 two-dimensional drawing.


 Tom Ryan, project architect, noted that the second-floor balcony is
 disguised within the hip roof.


 Commissioner Urda noted that the sunroom change is a significant
 improvement, which pushes the edge of the historic aspect, but he
 believes the changes are artfully done.


 Chairman Peterson said he was on board with the front porch and
 rear covered porch along with the box bay also in the rear. He also
 noted the removal of significant elements of the dormer and the
 sunroom and the implication of creating a precedent.


 Commissioner Ory agreed with the setting of a precedent, but also
 stated that the Commission should base judgement on a case by
 case basis.


 Public Testimony: None


 Commissioner Garrison stated that the outcomes of the
 improvements outweigh the loss of the features and would be in
 support.


 Commissioner Doyle agreed with Commissioner Garrison.


 Matt and Jenifer McNichols thanked the Commissioners and
 expressed they are looking forward to the usable space.

 A motion was made by Vice Chair Jacks and seconded by Commissioner Urda to
 approve COA #20-610 to: demolish the sunroom and add an addition on the home
 facing Chicago Avenue, add a new one story porch facing Columbia Street, and
 add a new second floor addition over an existing first floor, covered porch and
 cantilevered box bay in the rear at 127 South Columbia Street.

 Aye: Doyle, Garrison, Vice Chair Jacks, Franczyk, Eveslage, Ory, Chairman

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 Peterson, and Urda.

 Nays: None

2. Consider the Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) 209 North Brainard Street - COA
 20-987
 Brian Ledebuhr, homeowner, described the proposed changes to
 the home including changes to the front covered porch and the
 addition of a sunroom window. He also noted a small covered porch
 would also be added in the rear, but is not visible from the street.


 Chairman Peterson listed two discrepancies in the report including
 the description of the proposed porch as enclosed and the
 description that the new porch roof would maintain the existing
 roofing. He noted these were not accurate and asked for
 clarification.


 Tom Ryan clarified that the front porch would not be enclosed and
 that the metal roof of the porch would match the existing metal
 roof on the current porch, but not the roof of the home. He also
 explained that the metal roof elevates the offset entry and its
 importance.


 Public Testimony: None


 Chairman Peterson commented that he has no issues with the new
 sunroom windows, but is concerned with the changes to the
 significant feature front entry, specifically the pediment.


 Tom Ryan explained that the gable limits the width of the porch
 whereas the proposed hip roof allows for an expanded width of the
 porch.


 Commissioner Urda asked for clarification on the terminology of the
 gable and hip.


 Tom Ryan explained the use of the hip and gable is not sheltering
 and is an architectural detail.


 Vice Chair Jacks commented the differences between the CAD
 drawings shown during the meeting and the submitted elevations
 in the packet.


 Chairman Peterson agreed it was not in the packet.


 Kathleen Russell, Planning Services Team, confirmed that the


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 drawing displayed at the meeting were sent after the memo was
 published.


 Brian Ledebuhr, confirmed that the fireplace shown in the CAD
 drawing is attached to the sunroom.


 Vice Chair Jacks asked to confirm the only rear changes to vote on
 were the sunroom windows.


 Chairman Peterson described that they are only voting on the
 windows on the sunroom and the new proposed porch in the front
 of the home.


 Brian Ledebuhr thanked all for their time and asked if the
 consideration of the fireplace would require a new COA.


 Vice Chair Jacks stated his opinion is that a new COA would be
 required for the fireplace.


 Chairman Peterson noted the fireplace would not be a bad thing,
 but could not see how it could be included in the COA proposed
 tonight. Peterson also asked if the petitioner would like to return
 with a modified proposal.


 Brian Ledebuhr stated it made sense to vote on the original request
 tonight rather than bringing forth all the changes at once with the
 fireplace at another time.




 A motion was made by Commissioner Ory and seconded by Commissioner Doyle
 to approve COA 20-987 to add a porch at the front of the home facing Brainard
 Street and replace the existing windows on the sunroom facing School Street at
 209 North Brainard Street

 Aye: Doyle, Garrison, Franczyk, Eveslage, Ory, Chairman Peterson, and Urda

 Nays: Vice Chair Jacks

F. REPORTS

1. Approve the minutes of the January 23, 2020 Historic Preservation Commission meeting

 A motion was made by Commissioner Urda seconded by Vice Chair Jacks to
 approve the meeting minutes of the January 23, 2020, Historic Preservation
 Commission meeting.

 Aye: Doyle, Garrison, Vice Chair Jacks, Franczyk, Eveslage, Chairman Peterson,
 Urda


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 Nays: None

 Abstain: Ory

G. NEW BUSINESS:

 Commissioner Urda brought up the recent City Council meeting
 agenda item of the Little Friends concept as new business. He
 discussed the issue of importance is the request for a blanket COA
 in the future.


 Gabrielle Mattingly, Planning Services Team, clarified that since
 there is not an agenda item or application, the Little Friends site
 could not be specifically discussed.


 Commissioner Jacks noted that the presentation is speculation until
 an agenda item is brought forward.


 Chairman Peterson commented that the detail presented for the
 plan would need to be extensive with complete details for each lot.


 Commissioner Urda agreed with Chairman Peterson’s description
 and noted that each lot buyer would be required to come and
 present individually.


 Councilmember Kelly emphasized that the concept is speculative
 and there are multiple different variables that are up in the air.


H. ADJOURNMENT:
 8:08pm




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