Public Utilities Advisory Board — Naperville, IL
Date: 2025-03-06

400 S. Eagle Street
 City of Naperville Naperville, IL 60540
 http://www.naperville.il.us/

 Meeting Agenda

 Public Utilities Advisory Board

Thursday, March 6, 2025 5:00 PM Council Chambers


 Special Meeting



A. CALL TO ORDER:

B. ROLL CALL:

C. PUBLIC FORUM:

D. OLD BUSINESS:

E. NEW BUSINESS:
 25-0300 Receive the preliminary report from Customized Energy Solutions


F. REPORTS:

G. ADJOURNMENT:
 Any individual with a disability requesting a reasonable accommodation in order to
 participate in a public meeting should contact the Communications Department at least
 48 hours in advance of the scheduled meeting. The Communications Department can
 be reached in person at 400 S. Eagle Street, Naperville, IL., via telephone at
 630-420-6707 or 630-305-5205 (TDD) or via e-mail at info@naperville.il.us. Every effort
 will be made to allow for meeting participation.




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City of Naperville

 400 S. Eagle Street
 Naperville, IL 60540
 http://www.naperville.il.us/




 Meeting Minutes - Final

 Thursday, March 6, 2025

 5:00 PM

 Special Meeting

 Council Chambers



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Public Utilities Advisory Board Meeting Minutes - Final March 6, 2025


A. CALL TO ORDER:
 Chairman Louis Halkias called the March 6, 2025 PUAB meeting to order at 5:02
 p.m.

B. ROLL CALL:
 Chairman Louis Halkias, Abbas Bhikhapurawala, James Fillar, Brandon Hoeft,
 Philip Schrieber, Councilman Nathan Wilson and Bhavni Yalavarthy

 PHONE: Russell Paluch
 ABSENT: Michelle Ackmann and Hans Roeder

C. PUBLIC FORUM:
 FERNANDO ARRIOLA
 My name is Fernando Arriola, I am the Community Relations Chair for Nest. I
 have two messages today. One message is from NEST, and one is from me. So, I
 am putting on the NEST hat to kick this baby off. You will be hearing from a
 variety of members of the Naperville Environment and Sustainability Task
 Force/NEST and Say No to Coal Consortium tonight from the public comment
 period.

 Our goal tonight is to respond to the CES report and last week’s IMEA
 presentation addressing areas that require further investigation and questions
 that require answers. Like PUAB, NEST are advisors to the City of Naperville. We
 have been a trusted partner with the city and our advice to slow down and not
 sign the proposed IMEA contract has been embraced by our elected officials.

 We have built this trust, because we bring expertise, we do extensive research,
 and we back our advice with evidence, and we have the best interest of the
 community at heart. Together NEST, PUAB, community members, city staff and
 city council can chart a path forward that is both physically and environmentally
 responsible.

 As the speakers address you this evening, our leadership team is happy to
 answer any questions. If we do not have an immediate response, we will get back
 to you.

 Now I am putting on my Fernando’s hat, which is Bears. So, I just want to say, it
 looks like the scope of the CES didn’t really dive into the weeds of the energy
 industry, how dynamic it is, how the demands changing, how supply is changing,
 how the regulatory environment is uncertain, all those things.

 It also didn’t get into, when you are picking partners and you obviously, what are
 our partners objectives? What are their priorities? What is their culture? Does it
 fit with us? As I have been involved with NEST, a little bit over a year, one of the
 things we’ve noticed is that the IMEA’s priorities are not always consistent with
 Naperville's priorities. And so, as we look at this, what is the right partner and
 how is that going to work?

 I think about things like demand response, I think I heard that in someone’s bio,
 dynamic pricing, peak shaving, the notion of having utility scaled battery packs,
 virtual power plants made up of diversified of energy resources, all of those


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 things.

 I was in a ComEd meeting last week, and ComEd was putting down major chips
 in these areas, especially the virtual power plants, that was big. I also look at like
 this legislation that was in the Tribune a few days ago that is going through
 legislation in Illinois right now, also similar thing. Lot of like modern energy
 techniques to manage resiliency and lower prices.

 When you look at the owners of Prairie State and Trimble County, these guys
 have different objectives. Their objective is to keep coal plants running full speed
 as much as possible. The reason they want to do this is because they want to
 keep their financial situation in the right place. If they don’t keep those coal
 plants running their financial model starts to break.

 THERESA HUS
 Good evening, I am Theresa Hus, a long-time resident of Naperville and a
 member of Say No to Coal consortium. I am here to respond to IMEA’s
 presentation last week. We agree with the chairman, that the facts matter, but
 IMEA’s presentation didn’t tell the full story. On costs, IMEA omitted ongoing
 maintenance and replacement costs for aging coal plants. They mention rising
 transmissions costs as if they were inevitable. But their contract restricts local
 generation and storage which could lower those costs. The thirty-year contract
 they have to source power from Kentucky means the costs of putting power onto
 our grid is likely to keep climbing. And their Trimble County ownership contract
 requires purchasing electricity regardless of costs creating risks and uncertainty.

 Now IMEA’s wholesale rates have been higher than ComEd’s for years which
 they do not mention. Their competitive residential rates are simply offset by
 higher commercial and industrial rates. Naperville negatively affecting costs to
 our businesses and our schools the latter which or course are paid by residents
 through our property taxes. But the bottom line is, any claim that IMEA makes
 about costs from the year 2035 to 2055 is pure speculation, because the contract
 is silent on costs, making apples to apples comparisons impossible.

 IMEA also uses some misleading data, they inflated their renewable energy
 claims by using name plate capacity instead of capacity factor which would be
 more accurate than wind and solar. They talked a lot about renewable's but didn’t
 mention that eighty percent of our energy comes from coal still. They claimed
 they have more renewable's in Illinois, but Federal data shows it’s just not true.
 Illinois is fourteen point seven-five percent IMEA has twelve percent. But most
 critically, eighty-four percent of IMEA’s electricity comes from CO2 admitting
 sources like coal and natural gas. In Illinois, that’s thirty-one percent, that’s an
 incredibly stark difference. So going with IMEA means that we will fail to meet
 our sustainability goals. They claim to be transitioning to renewable's, but the
 fact is today eighty percent of their portfolio is coal and by their own data in ten
 years, eighty percent of their portfolio is going to be coal.

 The climate goals laid out by the City of Naperville by the city council will not be
 met with IMEA, and we’ll all pay the price environmentally and financially. But
 Naperville has a chance to make a forward-thinking decision, we don’t have to be
 tied to a polluting energy source for another thirty years. Clean energy isn’t just
 possible, we’ve seen it all over the country, all over the world. It is necessary. We
 urge the PUAB to join us and demand real answers. Support public forums so
 you know what the residents want and ensure Naperville is not locked into an


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 outdated contract that fails our businesses, our residents, our schools and our
 future generations. Thank you.

 TED BOURLARD
 Good evening, Mr. Chairman, PUAB members, Councilman Wilson, Ann and
 Madeline. I’m Ted Bourlard, the NEST co-chair. I live in Naperville and am a rate
 payer. After reviewing the CES presentation, I was left with many questions. We
 look forward to CES addressing these questions after their presentation.

 CES explains what bi-lateral PPA’s are on slides nineteen through twenty-seven,
 but nowhere in this report is there any discussion of power contracts with major
 power providers such as Constellation Energy, Next Era and many others. So,
 why were power contracts from major power providers not discussed as an
 option. This is a major emission, power providers with whom NEST has spoken
 have said they would be eager to compete for our business. Naperville by itself is
 certainly large enough to have the same leverage to negotiate a good deal for
 Naperville. Power providers are able to provide the same services IMEA offers
 and more and could provide pricing and emissions data in form of quotations for
 several different types of energy portfolios.

 Members of council have said publicly, we need to use normal procurement
 processes and obtain quotes by issuing an RFP. Surely this needs to be
 considered. And I have another question for CES. Why was peak shaving as a
 capacity mitigation strategy to reduce costs by lowering peak demands not
 discussed. CES made a point on slide 15 to discuss the cost of capacity prices
 due to an increasing load in PJM and discuss the impact to our bills. None of the
 capacity risks mitigation strategy suggests on slide seventeen include peak
 shaving which can be achieved through the use of batteries, distributed energy
 management systems, time of use pricing, energy efficiency programs and other
 technologies if possible.

 CES describes an option to sell our utility to ComEd on slide six but did not
 cover this option in this report so, why not? Why was this option not covered?
 Well, the option should be considered to provide a more complete picture for
 decision makers. At a minimum, there is value in exploring the many programs
 ComEd offers to its customers to provide energy choice, reduce demand,
 increase energy efficiency, fund renewable energy credits and pursue
 electrification that Naperville Electric and IMEA together do not offer. If one is to
 compare the cost of NEU plus IMEA to ComEd plus a choice of power, one must
 also look at benefit streams in order for this comparison to be apples to apples.
 Thank you very much.

 JOE HUS
 Hi, I’m Joe Hus. I’ve been a resident for over 25 years. And there is only one thing
 I want to talk about today, and at the last meeting, we talked about the elephant
 in the room that we really didn’t really dig into. So, we get our power from the
 dirtiest plant in the entire state of Illinois. The majority of our electricity comes
 from that plant. It’s one of the seven dirtiest major plants in the country, and
 that’s why a couple of hundred people were in this room, in January, all with
 signs saying, no to coal. They don’t want their electricity to come from coal. They
 realize that global warming is a serious problem, and they want the city council
 to take action. And fortunately, we have the city council form on the environment,
 and every single one of the eight candidates came in and said they did not
 support moving forward with the IMEA proposal.


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 Our city councilors are listening to us, and we appreciate that they are taking
 input from the citizens. Basically, we need to hold public hearings. We need to
 find out what our residents want. Create a score card and then look at all of our
 options and score them against what the citizens of Naperville want and then
 select an option. The Chairman talked about being from Gary. I was also born
 and raised in the region. My grandfather worked in one of the coal powered steel
 plants, and he died of lung cancer.

 The generation after him took action. They started the EPA. They passed laws for
 cleaner water. The passed laws for cleaner air. That generation took action. What
 we are saying is this generation needs to take action now on climate change.
 That’s why all those citizens were in this room with signs saying we want action.

 Global warming is clear. In 2023, it was the hottest year in history. That was
 broken last year in 2024, where it became the hottest year in history. 2035, it’s on
 track to be the hottest year in human history again. The climate is getting
 warmer, there is no question about that. It used to be that we would talk about
 climate change is something that would happen in the future and people
 wouldn’t have to worry about that. Some later generations would have to deal
 with that. That’s not the case, we passed the one point five degree Celsius, that
 was in the Paris agreement. We are already hotter than today and that was
 sixteen years ago or 2016 when they set that goal, and that is affecting citizens
 today. In 2024, Illinois had more billion-dollar disasters weather events than they
 had in recorded history. Whether it is the wildfires in California or the hurricanes
 in Florida or the flooding in North Carolina, those disasters are happening all
 around the world and they are happening every single year.

 The World Health Organization said that millions of people will die because of
 global warming and I ask this generation to take action on global warming.
 Thank you

 GREG HUBERT
 Good evening, PUAB, Councilman Wilson, and CES. Greg Huber,
 cleanenergy.org, citizen of Naperville, who has been sharing IMEA board meeting
 reports since 2018. I am here to ask a question of CES and to share our public
 perspective. CES, please, we ask for you to explain aggressive on page thirty-six
 where it says IMEA has aggressive renewal energy integration plans and coal
 retirements. Please explain how you see aggressive, along with your data, your
 benchmarks and your comparison, so we can understand. And this is our public,
 in public power perspective on IMEA plans.

 1. We see very aggressive use of open meetings act exceptions, and the Prairie
 State confidential agreement, to limit transparency in key areas including IMEA’s
 plans.

 2. We see a resource portfolio that is now full, with the addition of that hundred
 and fifty-megawatts Bee Hollow solar project. Along with the IMEA forecast
 continuing flat or decreasing members energy sales. There is no apparent room
 for further renewable energy resources without an increase in demand or turning
 down the dial on that coal fire generation.

 3. We see the force of Illinois law and not IMEA that will reduce Prairie State’s
 generation by 2038 and not 2035 which is what IMEA’s charts have apparently


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 illustrated.

 4. We see an IMEA Vistra Coal Contract that ended in 2022. Earlier than planned
 because Vistra announced plans in 2020 to pivot to clean energy and early retire
 its own coal fleet in Ohio and Illinois.

 Before this last item of my public comments, please I ask that you review this list
 and additional items I have given to you, our Electric Director and CES.

 5. During the IMEA resource plans presentation at the October 24 IMEA board
 meeting, October 2024 IMEA board meeting. I heard the IMEA CEO say that the
 IMEA portfolio now allows the members and IMEA leadership to watch and wait,
 as technologies develop before choosing new resources. Please note that IMEA,
 unlike Naperville and many if not most Illinois units of local government, does
 not provide recordings to hear those words yourselves if you are not able to
 attend. We do not see aggressive, so please CES, help us to understand your
 perspective. Thank you very much.

 BRUCE JONES
 Hi, Bruce Jones, longtime Naperville resident. Naperville is a leading and
 prosperous city in the Midwest. But residents do not want electricity generated
 from coal. The sooner we remove it and use clean energy resources the better for
 everyone here and for everyone living in the area and around those coal plants.

 Why didn’t CES provide options to remove coal and fossil fuel based electricity?
 Over the last 20 years, coal-based electricity dropped from fifty-one to sixteen
 percent in the United States. While clean energy- based electricity increased from
 thirty-two to forty-one percent. Why didn’t CES provide an option to release an
 RFP for competitive bidding? This was a major flaw. They focused in on JAA’s,
 Joint Action Agencies.

 My colleagues and I, NEST, have been talking with energy and service
 companies for the last several years and they are ready and waiting for
 Naperville to release an RFP. The North American Energy Markets Association or
 naema.com is the place where the most cities, utilities and government entities
 go to post their energy related RFPs to get the best service and energy pricing.
 We need a competitive bid.

 Why didn’t CES incorporate utilities scale battery energy storage systems. I look
 at the chart, there’s the picture of what we want. Solar, wind and battery storage
 right there. The CES chart report implies massive overbuilding of solar and wind
 is needed to make them viable. You will see the lists of solar and wind as being
 really high to be necessary. Solar and wind energy systems should be combined
 with battery energy storage to provide back up, frequency regulation, peak
 shaving, cost savings and major benefits to what we want. Incorporating battery
 storage significantly increases the accredited capacity of solar and wind to help
 mitigate the variable output of these resources.

 Of all the U.S. planned utility scaled electric generating capacity being added in
 2025, this year, thirty-two and a half gigawatts are for solar, seven point seven
 gigawatts are for wind, and eighteen point two gigawatts are for battery storage.
 It’s necessary, it’s what we want. I have some other charts we can give to you
 guys via email and soft copy if you want. Thanks.




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 DEBBIE MADER
 Good evening. My name is Debbie Mader and I’m a resident of St. Charles and a
 member of the Tri-Cities Clean Energy. I’m here tonight, because St. Charles city
 council also has a decision to make on whether or not to sign the IMEA
 extension, and we are all watching what is happening here in Naperville very
 closely.

 I was hoping the CES report would provide detailed information about the
 options available to our cities and a comparison for those options. I am
 specifically concerned about the risk. I was wondering why the CES report
 doesn’t talk about the risk of signing a thirty-year contract with anybody. I am
 not an energy expert, but I have become a student.

 Earlier this year we hosted and energy forum in St. Charles and we had three
 industry experts, each with different backgrounds and opinions. The forum was
 held to help educate our residents about the energy market and the factors to
 consider in our energy future. Each one of these experts spoke at how rapidly the
 energy market is changing. How quickly renewable's and batteries storage are
 improving and becoming less expensive than coal. They describe how the energy
 market is expediently evolving with more sustainable, renewable and affordable
 options. Why would we sign now with a supplier who clearly wants to continue
 providing us with a heavy mix of coal fired energy for as long as they are able. If
 we sign now, we may lock ourselves out of the newest technologies along with
 affordable energy and more sustainable solutions for our cities.

 So that’s all I have. Thank you for your time and attention and the hard work
 everyone is doing.

 TOM COLEMAN
 Hello, I am Tom Coleman, and I am co-chair of the Climate Reality Project in
 Chicago. We are a seven-hundred-member organization, and we are part of the
 national organization which is about fifty-thousand-member group. I lead our
 energy team. Successful organizations try to develop an unbiased specification
 for what they are trying to do. Whether it is a new contract, or an old contract. I
 think that is what the City of Naperville needs to do.

 I am going to talk about two things I think that is important to be in this
 specification. First is energy cost, the goal should be to include life cycle energy
 costs versus current costs. The second thing would be to develop a view of
 energy costs in an unsubsidized version, okay using a levelized cost of energy. If
 we look at that, we see from Lazard that the cost of wind is about fifty dollars a
 megawatt hour, solar is about sixty-one, coal is about a hundred eighteen and
 nuclear is about one eighty-two.

 Now Naperville shouldn’t compare the cost of ComEd cities because they are
 about fifty-four percent nuclear, and nuclear is the most expensive form of
 energy. I suggest using unsubsidized costs because there is no guarantee with
 the current administration or future administration whether or not subsidies will
 be retained. Whether it be for renewable energy or fossil fuel energy and it turns
 out our fossil fuel energy is the most heavily subsidized form of energy much
 more than renewable energy.

 The second part of this is the sustainability goals that we should really have. The
 U.S.A. is the number two annual admitter about with a total global admission of


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 fifty-three gigatons. Now when we look at that the United States is the number
 one commutative of admitters of admissions in history at hundred thirty-one
 billion metric tons. These admissions, like CO2, last in the atmosphere for up to
 one thousand years, so you can imagine how that builds up in the atmosphere
 over time causing a problem for our future.

 Therefore, Naperville's energy specification should have strong sustainability
 goals. We need these goals to survive political changes which always happen in
 Federal and State in cities. I think the NEST group in Naperville is an excellent
 group to help make decisions about sustainability and costs.

 Finally, there is no guarantee that IMEA will continue to be more or less separate
 from what ComEd and Amron have to comply with as far as CEJA goals and so
 forth for admissions. So, therefore, even though it is today, I would not count on
 it going in the future. As far as the CES analysis, and the IMEA analysis that I’ve
 seen, there’s real concerns that I don’t have time to get into today, but all I can
 say is things like South Dakota, Iowa, Idaho and so many red states today have
 dominant forms of renewable energy in their portfolio, and blue states of course
 like Vermont is one hundred percent right now.

 So, I think it would be helpful for PUAB, the City of Naperville, to consider these
 things. Thank you very much.

 CATHY CLARKIN
 I am Cathy Clarkin. I am one of the leaders of NEST. I am also a chemist, an
 environmentalist and a climate solutions professional. When my family moved
 here from Long Beach, California in two thousand and nine, we wanted to buy a
 house, rather than rent. We wanted a big yard so my son could play, and I could
 grow a big vegetable garden. My parents lived in Wheaton, so we targeted north
 Naperville. We thought it would be nice if we could be walking distance to the
 elementary school. We also had criteria with cost and size. We didn’t look at
 every house in town or try to find the absolute cheapest house. We first
 determined what type of house met our needs, our values and our budget. This
 criteria helped us to choose a house in Hobson Village, walking distance to
 Prairie, and I grew my vegetable garden and had enough to share with the
 neighbors.

 Similarly, when considering our future electricity utility supply, as a community,
 we need to consider our needs and our values. To access our options based on
 measurable metrics. Standard practice for procurement is to establish
 specifications and then seek bids to meet those needs. We are still at the
 defining stage of the process well before we can seek bids or make decisions. To
 establish specifications, we must first set goals for clean energy, for local
 control, for local job creation and economic development, decarbonization, the
 length of the contract, local generation and storage, energy efficiency and load
 shifting incentives, protecting low-income rate payers and costs.

 Who sets these goals and how it is important? We should follow the best
 practices, look to benchmarked cities, aim to meet science based de
 carbonization goals and ensure public input.

 The community has already spoken by showing up to council and PUAB
 meetings, saying that the proposed IMEA contract is neither economically nor
 environmentally responsible. Engaged residents have also confirmed that they


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 want Naperville to part of accelerating the clean energy transition because our
 values drive us to do our part to leave a livable planet for our kids and grandkids.

 There are many pathways to keep our lights on in Naperville including policies
 and technologies not included in the CES report. To continue to attract families
 and businesses to Naperville, we should not follow the status quo because it is
 easy, but instead show the community that we will listen to their voices. Thank
 you.

 NANETTE WILD
 Hello, I’m not one of these speakers with so much information to share with you,
 but I do believe in science and the kind of things I see that say net zero isn’t even
 enough. That we have to do more than that, and I was really appalled when I first
 found that Naperville's connection to this highly polluting coal plant. I think it’s
 bad enough that we are stuck with them for the next ten years without extending
 that to thirty years. I have fourteen grandkids, and I would really like the world to
 be a better place for them to grow into. That’s about all. Thank you.

 LARRY KOLACH
 My name is Larry Kolach. Not to be confused with turning coal to ash. I’m a
 resident of Naperville for thirty years and I worked at Nokia. One of the things I
 heard from Tom and Cathy was, what our environment is going to be like given
 the CES evaluation? What makes Naperville livable and attractive for businesses
 as well as residents like myself? One of the things I am concerned about is that
 maybe not well explored, is perhaps a multi-national company like mine, Nokia,
 that is responsible to report back to the EU standards which require ESG. They
 have to report, for example back social environment impacts of their businesses.
 When they decide, as our plant decided to move their people Naperville to Austin,
 Texas or Fort Worth area. I am wondering why they would do that is potentially,
 is one of the questions they have to answer is where is my power source coming
 from. I see in the CES report that Airacod , that supplies much of Texas and that
 surrounding area is perhaps the lowest cost and contains a large amount of
 renewable energy. That is the only point I would like to bring up today. Thank
 you.

D. OLD BUSINESS:
 CHAIRMAN LOUIS HALKIAS
 Thank you. That is it with the public forum. I appreciate your participation, we all
 do, which is very good. Normally in our regular meetings, we have old business.
 This meeting is for the presentation of Customized Energy Solutions, so we will
 pass that old business section. Prior to that presentation, I would like to make a
 comment to everyone here in this room. As part of the information gathering
 process and understanding that PUAB will provide an advisory board
 recommendation to the city council on this topic. CES will present its preliminary
 report via presentation at today’s meeting. CES’ presentation does not include a
 final recommendation to the city on how to proceed. Rather, it is the compilation
 of research and fact finding to date.

 This PUAB meeting is an opportunity to hear public comments and feedback that
 can be incorporated to a final report to be presented to the PUAB for further
 discussion at a future date. For the reasons stated above, I would like to invite
 Ted Bourlard, Co-Chair of NEST, to make a presentation and to be available for
 questions from the PUAB at an April 8th, 2025, special session. I would like for
 NEST to work with the Electric Utility Director in preparation for your

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 presentation to meet our format that we have used in this entire process. The
 PUAB will not make any decisions or recommendations at this meeting today. So,
 Ted, do you except that?

 TED BOURLARD
 Accepts

E. NEW BUSINESS:
 CHAIRMAN LOUIS HALKIAS
 We will now go to new business. The new business is to receive the preliminary
 report from Customized Energy Solutions. We appreciate that you’re here, and
 we appreciate also the effort and also the detail you have put into this project.

 CUSTOMIZED ENERGY SOLUTIONS
 CES presentation by Ann Yu, Vice President, North American Consulting and
 Madeline Frierson, Lead Consultant.

 Receive the preliminary report from Customized Energy Solutions
 Attachments: Naperville_procurement_options_draft_03032025


F. REPORTS:

G. ADJOURNMENT:
 CHAIRMAN LOUIS HALKIAS
 Thank you very for going along with our questions and having the patience to
 help us get through this situation. Again, I thank the city for giving us this
 opportunity also to have the fore site to be able to hire a company to be able to
 research this in this way. All the information we picked up today goes towards us
 to better understand what is going on and the best thing for Naperville. So, thank
 you again. I would like to thank the people that have been here. I’m looking at this
 point since I think we’ve exhausted all of our situation here. I’m looking for a
 motion for adjournment.

 Motion to adjourn: Phil Schrieber
 Second: Jim Fillar
 Motion passed




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