Oral history interview with Phyllis Kind
name: label: Interviewee
content: Kind, Phyllis, 1933-2018
label: Creator
content: McElhinney, James Lancel, 1952-
topic: label: Topic
content: Art dealers -- New York (State) -- New York -- Interviews
acqinfo: label: Provenance
content: This interview is part of the Archives of American Art Oral History Program, started in 1958 to document the history of the visual arts in the United States, primarily through interviews with artists, historians, dealers, critics and administrators.
creator: label: Interviewee
content: Kind, Phyllis, 1933-2018
label: Creator
content: McElhinney, James Lancel, 1952-
bioghist: label: Biographical / Historical
content: Phyllis Kind (1933-2018) was an art dealer in New York, New York. James McElhinney (1952- ) is a painter and educator of New York, New York.
physdesc: label: Extent
content: 2 Items (sound files (1 hr., 39 min.) Audio, digital, wav)
label: Extent
content: 23 Pages (Transcript)
phystech: label: System Details
content: Recorded on Edirol R-09HR.
unitdate: label: Date
content: 2007 March 28-May 11
dataSource: label: Archival Repository
content: Archives of American Art
identifier: label: Identifier
content: AAA.kind07
objectType: label: Type
content: Collection descriptions
label: Type
content: Archival materials
label: Type
content: Pages
label: Type
content: Sound recordings
label: Type
content: Interviews
altformavail: label: Existence and Location of Copies
content: Transcript is available on the Archives of American Art's website.
genre_format: label: Genre/Form
content: Sound recordings
label: Genre/Form
content: Interviews
scopecontent: label: Scope and Contents
content: An interview with Phyllis Kind, conducted 2007 March 28-May 11, by James McElhinney, for the Archives of American Art at Kind's home in New York, New York.
label: Scope and Contents
content: Kind speaks of growing up in the Bronx and St. Petersburg, Florida; attending the Bronx High School for Science; attending the University of Pennsylvania and studying physical chemistry; attending the Mannes School of Composition in New York; meeting and marrying art historian and critic Joshua Kind; moving to Chicago and attending the University of Chicago and studying literature; opening the Prographica Arte gallery on East Ontario and Michigan Avenue in Chicago with her husband; showing the work of outside art such as the Hairy Who, Jim Nutt, and Gladys Nilsson, Robert Brown, Ramírez and Wölfli; showing work of Leon Golub and Fiene. Kind talks starting the Phyllis Kind Gallery in New York City, and compares the arts scenes in Chicago and New York. She speaks about traveling to the Soviet Union in 1985 and putting artists together for the show "Direct from Moscow." She explains how art happens to the artist; they simply do not make the work, but something takes them to make the art. She describes the fickleness of the New York art scene, and the differences and similaries between art brut and folk art.