The same 40 leaders cohort undergoes a second leadership profile. The two interviews (cognitive and social-emotional) take approximately one hour. Afterwards the produced text is thoroughly analyzed. Based on the frameworks developed by Otto Laske and Iva Vurdelja, we describe the capacity to lead in complex situations. After the second round of profiles we can look into the maturing of leaders during a period of challenging global crises and hopefully become able to draw insightful conclusions and recommendations for transformative learning.