My path with sawing has been somewhat accidental and I'm very happy about it. As I mentioned, I didn't receive the training as a Corps Member—it was not until I became a crew lead that I became a certified sawyer. Up until the thinning project, I did a lot of corridor clearing and brushing. After over a year of crew leading, I got hired on as a project manager. Initially it was to manage Tonto National forest projects (mostly trail work)—it wasn't until later that I began to manage thinning projects. So, my first year as a project manager, I spent a lot of time teaching myself how to deal with trail tools. But then when my coworker who had been managing the saw shop moved on to a different position, I stepped in and slowly slid back into the world of chainsaw operation and maintenance.