Not really—when I first came to ACE the saw shop was run by women (which I thought was really cool), and actually all the people I learned saw skills from in ACE have been women. I think, however, that when you move out of that conservation space in ACE you do start getting into the more male-dominated side of things. I know women wildland firefighters who have had seasons being the only woman on their crew or only one of two women on their crew. ACE is definitely a good place to start chainsawing, to gain that confidence before getting to the forest service or somewhere where the ratio starts to dip dramatically. There were a few instances where a project partner would teach something that was not necessarily along the same lines as what I would teach, or questioned a call that I made. I have felt in certain cases too, that I had to work harder to justify my technical knowledge. I really don't know, though, if it was the fact that I seemed younger, or my gender. Regardless, ACE luckily gave me a lot of confidence in my saw skills and in my ability to train others to develop the same skills. So, I was very comfortable with making calls and telling people that it was my decision to teach skills a certain way.