People have very different approaches to how they manage their family and their career. I've met really successful women, that the way that they do it is that their partner is a stay at home partner. We don't have that we have two really high achieving parents. And that's been very challenging, because the two of us have to balance our careers against the kids instead of it just being one of us. I also know how brief their childhoods are and so I'm just trying to be as present as possible. So I honestly I turn down a lot of travel related opportunities and things like that because I just don't want to be gone all the time. And some other parents either can't do that because their work just requires travel or they're seeing it as, this is the time in my career where I have to do all these things. And so it's all just a balance of what's important to you. For me, even the kind of work that I take on, I feel like it helps me spend more time with my kids. So one of the reasons why I've gotten so much into the brand refresh work is because the schedules are very understandable and knowable. Sometimes when you're working on other projects, like things expand and grow and move around. But it's very straightforward. I know exactly what I meant to do. Every stage has its clearly defined part and that just really helps me with scheduling. So then I can be like, 'oh, you know, Charlie has a musical recital at 6pm on this day. I gotta make sure that I don't schedule a meeting at 4pm or whatever.' It's all a balance.