A hobby of mine is to see how security is portrayed in TV and movies. And it’s never real. It’s always super boring. It’s boring, tedious work that ends up being exciting.  But when you talk about ransomware from nation states, it raises the stakes and makes it super exciting, which is why you see it so much in movies and the media.  We have seen a couple of isolated cases where nation states have used ransomware, but it’s more as a distraction. So they get in and take out information, which was the real goal. But they’re basically making you believe it’s ransomware so you respond one way while they’re going out the backdoor with your data. It’s rare, but it does happen. If you’re hit with ransomware, there's probably a 99.99% chance it’s organized crime trying to make money.