우리의 생각이 똑같다는 것을 알았는데 그것은 기후변화에 대한 토론 대부분이 과학적인 조사가 완료됐는지 아직도 진행중인지에 집중돼 있는데 우리는 그것이 토론의 핵심적인 부분을 고의적으로 회피하려는 시도라고 느꼈지요.
And it turned out that Joel and I were both bothered by the same thing, which was how so much of the debate was still focused on the science and how complete it was or wasn't, which, to both of us, seems somewhat intentionally off point.