그 전에는 은세공 일도 했었고, 또 그 전에는... 열 다섯살 쯤에 가출을 했어요 대학같은 건 갈 생각도 안했죠
And before that, I was a silversmith, and before that, I was -- I was out of the house at about 15 and a half, and I never wound up going into college.