Table: senad_members_2
Columns: administrative_panel
agricultural_panel
cultural_and_educational_panel
industrial_and_commercial_panel
labour_panel
national_university_of_ireland
university_of_dublin
nominated_by_the_taoiseach
total

Question: What is the number for the University of Dublin with their Cultural and Educational Panel of 5, and an Industrial and Commercial Panel with less than 9?
SQL: SELECT COUNT("university_of_dublin") FROM senad_members_2 WHERE "cultural_and_educational_panel" = 5 AND "industrial_and_commercial_panel" < 9