Table: fighting_talk_episodes
Columns: date
presenter
guest_1
guest_2
guest_3
guest_4

Question: How many people are guest 1 on episodes where guest 4 is Des Kelly?
SQL: SELECT COUNT("guest_1") FROM fighting_talk_episodes WHERE "guest_4" = 'Des Kelly'

Question: On episodes where guest 1 is Jim White, who was guest 3?
SQL: SELECT "guest_3" FROM fighting_talk_episodes WHERE "guest_1" = 'Jim White'