Consumer complaint received 10/28/2017 about Debt collection (Medical debt) with Phoenix Financial Services LLC (IL).
Issue: Written notification about debt
Sub-issue: Didn't receive enough information to verify debt

Complaint: Phoenix Financial Services on the behalf of XXXX XXXX XXXX sent me a later date XXXX XXXX that I did not receive until the following week. of notification of debt and reported the debt to XXXX and XXXX the prevous day they sent the letter out. I had not received any information prior to that nor was I allowed my due process of 30 days to validate or dispute the debt before being reported to my creditors. 

When speaking to the representative requesting the information I was told they could not give me validation of debt I would have to contact the insurance company. 

Another female representative contacted me and did not advise me that she was a debt collector and any information will be used for that purpose. I do have proof of these conversations I can submit. 


809. Validation of debts ( a ) Notice of debt ; contents Within five days after the initial communication with a consumer in connection with the collection of any debt, a debt collector shall, unless the following information is contained in the initial communication or the consumer has paid the debt, send the consumer a written notice containing -- ( 1 ) the amount of the debt ; ( 2 ) the name of the creditor to whom the debt is owed ; ( 3 ) a statement that unless the consumer, within thirty days after receipt of the notice, disputes the validity of the debt, or any portion thereof, the debt will be assumed to be valid by the debt collector ; ( 4 ) a statement that if the consumer notifies the debt collector in writing within the thirty-day period that the debt, or any portion thereof, is disputed, the debt collector will obtain verification of the debt or a copy of a judgment against the consumer and a copy of such verification or judgment will be mailed to the consumer by the debt collector ; and ( 5 ) a statement that, upon the consumer 's written request within the thirty-day period, the debt collector will provide the consumer with the name and address of the original creditor, if different from the current creditor.
( b ) Disputed debts If the consumer notifies the debt collector in writing within the thirty-day period described in subsection ( a ) of this section that the debt, or any portion thereof, is disputed, or that the consumer requests the name and address  of the original creditor, the debt collector shall cease collection of the debt, or any disputed portion thereof, until the debt collector obtains verification of the debt or a copy of a judgment, or the name and address of the original creditor, and a copy of such verification or judgment, or name and address of the original creditor, is mailed to the consumer by the debt collector. Collection activities and communications that do not otherwise violate this subchapter may continue during the 30-day period referred to in subsection ( a ) unless the consumer has notified the debt collector in writing that the debt, or any portion of the debt, is disputed or that the consumer requests the name and address of the original creditor. Any collection activities and communication during the 30-day period may not  overshadow or be inconsistent with the disclosure of the consumers right to dispute the debt or request the name and address of the original creditor.

Company response to consumer: Closed with explanation