Newsgroup: it.hobby.motociclismo.scooter
Titolo: Garelli Scooter

Hello everybody,
I got an old Garelli mini-motorcycle from a friend, I am taking apart
the motor to build a scooter out of it.
I don't know what type of Garelli this is, so I don't know how much oil
to mix with fuel for it, and lots of other technical details...
The first thing I need to know is what model is it, so here I approach
the experienced people in this forum :-)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ohadp/185626208/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ohadp/185626209/
These are two pictures of the scooter and the motor, if anybody can
provide any information it would be great,
thank you

the experienced people in this forum :-)
Garelli VIP
Ciao
Mototopo
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 Garelli VIP
No, è un Gulp. Ha i pedali.
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 the motor to build a scooter out of it.
It's the right (and only, IMHO) thing to do...around the engine it look
quite bad.
It's a Garelli GULP model, produced around the second half of the 70's.
50 cc. 2 Stroke, automatic clutch, 1.5HP maximum power, 40km/h max speed
about.
The mix is made by 3% of mix oil, and the gear oil is a SAE30.
The maximum electrical power outlet is 18W @ 6V, AC current. No battery.
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No, è un Gulp. Ha i pedali.
pure il vip ha i pedali,  quello a kick starter e' il katia.
http://andreanascosti.altervista.org/motocicli/garelli%20vip.jpg
ci avevo pensato al gulp, ma la sella lunga mi fa propendere per il
vip.
Ciao
Mototopo

 vip.
Hai ragione è un VIP.
Io avevo il 3V ma lo ricordavo diversamente, poi osservando bene la foto di
kombat mi sono ricordato della forma del serbatoio e del carterino
paracatena.
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 It's a Garelli GULP model, produced around the second half of the
Sorry, is a VIP model. Same engine, some variations in general aspect.
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Thank you all very much,
Congradulations on winning the world cup :-)
So, I understand ths is a Garelli VIP ?
and the specs are like Condor has said ?
thank you very much, I will try to start it tomorrow,
if you have any tips feel free, I assume it hasn't been started for at
least a few years

 least a few years
Taking into considerations that the engine was no "cooked", the best is to
ask an help from an experienced friend, because there are a quite number of
steps to do, as these:
- The carburettor must be cleaned (Dall'Orto 14/12, if I remember well).
- The silencer mast be free from obstructions
- The ruptor contacts mast be clean and intact (no pick-up nor electronic
ignition, sorry)
- The spark plug mas be new (i remember a W175T2 Bosch type, 10mm thread,
old naming)
After this you must verify:
- presence of spark
- compression
- sealing of both carter bearings and all other sealings in the air/mix
circuit
Good luck. :-)
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Thank you again.
Would you by any chance know the number of teeth on the rear chain
sprocket ?
I will help me to figure out the required new rear sprocket , regarding
the new wheel size.

 regarding the new wheel size.
I remember only (I am speaking about 28 years ago..) this: the front wheel
have the same dimension of the rear wheel.
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Are you certain on the SAE30 ?
I went to a bike shop and they offered me SAE75/80,
they suggested that perhaps you meant an SEA30 oil for four-stroke
engine to be used as gear oil on the Garelli, is that so ?
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 engine to be used as gear oil on the Garelli, is that so ?
Yes. My opinion is that actually you can use every motor oil that NOT
includes additives like "friction modifier" "energy saving" and so on,
because I dont't know how the clutch is made and if those oils can, or not,
cause slipping among clutch surfaces.
Keep in mind that the power released by the engine is pretty low.
 :-)
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