Newsgroup: it.hobby.motociclismo.scooter
Titolo: Re: NASCE PIAGGIO MP3: Welcome Tomorrow


Looks cool.  But what's the advantage over a 2-wheel motorcycle?  This 
piaggio creation surely uses more gas/petrol, considering the increased 
rolling resistance.  It looks like you can lean it pretty hard, but you can 
do that with any sport bike, also.  I don't get it.  -Dave 


Are you sure about that?  Larger contact patch will only increase friction 
with road surface if there is a corresponding increase in weight to provide 
more downward force.  Otherwise, you get the toboggan effect, making the 
(trike?) more likely to hydroplane or skid on snow, etc.  This is one reason 
that FWD cars are good on snow.  Weight directly over (usually) skinny drive 
wheels, which makes the contact patches have more traction.  But put the 
engine in the middle of the car and you'd be screwed.  Double the front 
tires?  Doubly screwed.
Just by looking at the pictures, it looks like the contact patch area is 
doubled (bad, in rain or snow), with a slight increase in weight... but not 
enough to compensate for the increased contact patch.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to ride one.  But I'd slow way the heck down in 
rain, specifically, as I would expect it to hydroplane like heck.  -Dave 

"Dave" <ne...@not.invalid> wrote in message
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In the UK ( for driving licence purposes)  the Piaggio MP3 is classed as a
B1 category tricycle!!....which means it can be driven on a motorcycle
licence or a full car licence....no need for car drivers to take a
motorcycle driving test!!!!.....
Regards....
Lee.....

 
I saw one of these on the way up Hwy 9 on Saturday morning. Looked like 
he was having fun!
-- 
Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics 
German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss.
Hell is where the police are German,  the chefs British, the mechanics 
French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by Italians.
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/paul1cart/albums/

 in rain, specifically, as I would expect it to hydroplane like heck.
I think you SHOULD ride one in the rain, if only to lay a few theories to 
rest.
-- 
Beav
VN 750
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Are you positive about that?
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 Are you positive about that?
Yes, it`s a three wheeled vehicle....class  `B1`......driven on a motorcycle
licence
.....or a full car licence held before 2001.....UK.....
Lee....
Honda Dylan....
Piaggio Zip....
Reliant Robin.....
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 Reliant Robin.....
I'm totally unconvinced. Even more so after reading this:
"Even more amazing, the MP3 is as easy to ride as a traditional scooter. 
Inevitably dubious, a regular two-wheel rider is soon convinced of the 
advantages of the formula.
The front axle is only 420 mm wide, which means that the MP3 can be 
homologated as a two-wheeler."
Taken from here
http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichelin/gbr/tpl/mag5/art20060701/htm/route-piaggio-MP3.htm
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Very interesting Beav, but anyone who can count, sees three wheels....unless
the government is moving the goal posts again it is a three wheeler....B1
Classification!!!......
There will be a lot of controversy on that score....especially on the road
fund taxation.....£65 yearly for a trike.....
In the `60s there was a messerschmit three wheeler bubble car (micro, for
our US readers) that introduced a model that had twin rear wheels instead of
one for better traction....
it was classifieded as a four wheeler for road tax purposes and
motorcyclists could only drive it with a provisional licence!!..... and
learner plates!!!..bit of an outcry about that......
Interested to see how it develops as i saw an original ad as a three wheeler
`B1` in the UK.....cant find the ad at the moment, unfortunately.....
Regards....
Lee.....

 Lee.....
Lee, post your opinion on what the Piaggio "is" on ukrm will you?
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