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Titolo: EMEA: sei depresso? oltre 170 bambini morti in 5 anni grazie ai  Antidepressant

Fonte la lista dei bambini & ragazzi morti: 
http://www.ssristories.com/index.php
Ecco solo ancora i fatti, il prossimo è tuo figlio? o tua figlia ha un
compagno di banco con le psico-pillole?  non bastano oltre 170 bambini
morti in 5 anni?  dove si trova il limite di reazione?
Lexapro*	2008-04-18	California	**Violent High School Student Shot to
Death on Campus by Police
http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/607749.html
Autopsy report suggests teen wasn't taking meds properly
By Pablo Lopez / The Fresno Bee
05/16/08 23:52:31
Coroner officials released an autopsy report Friday suggesting that a
slain Roosevelt High School sophomore who attacked a campus police
officer was not taking proper dosages of drugs prescribed to control
his mental illness.
Dr. David Hadden, Fresno County coroner, said it's clear that Jesus
"Jesse" Carrizales, 17, had a high dose of the antidepressant Lexapro
in his blood that could have caused him to be paranoid.
But the teen's blood also revealed he was not taking antipsychotic
drugs.
Carrizales' family has said he was taking Lexapro and Geodon, an
antipsychotic medication, for depression.
Hadden said it's far too early to draw conclusions about Carrizales'
use of prescription drugs. People react differently to drugs and have
different tolerances to them.
"This picture is not complete," Hadden said.
On a night when family and friends held a vigil at Roosevelt High, the
findings of his autopsy reveal new information about the special
education student who was classified as emotionally disturbed.
At the Friday night vigil, family members said they still were waiting
to see what the final police report on the incident says. They also
said they had submitted a list of questions to Fresno Unified and had
yet to receive answers.
"It hurts very much every day, and it doesn't get any easier," said
Elisa Ortega, Carrizales' sister.
Said his uncle, Gilbert Abarca: "Something has to change."
Gloria Hernandez, a mental health patient advocate who came to the
vigil in support of the family, said the Police Department needs to
provide training to officers in how to deal with the mentally ill.
"They need to learn how to de-escalate the situation," she said.
Ben Benavidez, of the Mexican-American Political Association, said the
group is seeking an inquiry from the FBI and the state Attorney
General's Office.
Police say Carrizales was killed April 16 after he attacked Fresno
police officer Junus Perry with a sawed-off bat. Police say Carrizales
was standing over Perry, ready to strike again, when the officer fired
in self-defense.
The autopsy report confirmed an earlier account that Perry's bullet
entered Carrizales' right shoulder in a slightly downward angle and
hit an artery, causing him to bleed to death in a few minutes.
Hadden said it is clear that Perry fired his weapon in self-defense,
but he said his staff still needs to talk to witnesses and police
detectives to explain the bullet's path.
"Everything happened very rapidly," Hadden said, noting that the
coroner's staff doesn't have a clear picture of whether Perry was on
the ground or about to get up when he shot Carrizales.
The autopsy report essentially states what Police Chief Jerry Dyer has
said of the incident:
Perry was struck on the head with a sawed-off bat as soon as he left
his campus office. When Perry fell to the ground, Carrizales raised
the bat again, causing the officer to pull out his duty weapon. When
the bullet magazine fell out of the gun, Perry grabbed another gun --
a 40-caliber Glock semiautomatic -- from his ankle holster. He then
shot Carrizales once.
The bullet hit the clavicle -- or collarbone -- and then damaged an
artery and the spinal cord before lodging in the spine, the autopsy
report states.
The autopsy showed Carrizales' blood had a "lethal level" of Lexapro.
His blood and urine were tested for Quetiapine and Risperidone -- two
antipsychotic drugs used to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.
Neither drug was found in Carrizales' system, the report states.
general, "lethal level" means that in some people, that amount would
kill them, Hadden said. A toxic level of Lexapro also could cause
paranoia in some people, but not everyone. The drug's effect would
depend on whether Carrizales had built up a tolerance to the
antidepressant, Hadden said.
The autopsy report shows that Carrizales' blood was not tested for
Geodon. Hadden said his staff was told Carrizales was taking
Quetiapine and Risperidone. But Carrizales' family said Friday night
at the vigil that no one asked them what drugs Carrizales was taking.
Hadden said if it is confirmed that Carrizales was taking Geodon,
another test will be requested.
The case is difficult, Hadden said, because neither he nor his staff
are experts in prescription drugs. "We know a lot about heroin,
cocaine and other illegal drugs, but we know very little about
therapeutic drugs," he said.
The staff plans to consult a psychiatrist to help them understand
Carrizales' medication.
Police spokesman Jeff Cardinale said the findings in the autopsy
report were "not unanticipated."
Police knew Carrizales was supposed to be on medication, but
detectives have focused their attention on Carrizales' actions, as
well as the actions of Perry, Cardinale said.
"Everything in the report we knew already," Cardinale said.
The report said Carrizales was shot at 11:53 a.m. April 16. Carrizales
was pronounced dead at the scene at 12:07 p.m. The autopsy was
performed from 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. the following day.
These times can help determine when Carrizales last took his
medication.
Fresno pharmacist Nancy Asai, who is not associated with the case,
said Lexapro can stay in a person's blood much longer that the
antipsychotic drugs Quetiapine and Risperidone.
Dr. Barry Chaitin, chair of the department of psychiatry at the
University of California at Irvine, said in general, Lexapro is
"pretty safe" even at high doses. The lack of antipsychotic medicine
in Carrizales' system, however, is troubling -- those drugs are
typically prescribed to help people cope with aggression, psychosis,
hostility and hallucinations, he said.
Carrizales' behavior is difficult to explain, said Chaitin. On one
hand, Carrizales' family has said that the medication helped him
become more sociable. But police say Carrizales sneaked up on Perry
from behind and attacked the officer without provocation.
"His conduct appears way out of the ordinary because the attack sounds
premeditated," Chaitin said. "He must have had a misperception that
the officer was a threat to him."

 compagno di banco con le psico-pillole? 
E' la nuova campagna di Scientology per fottere un po di soldi ai gonzi?

E' la nuova campagna di Scientology per fottere un po di soldi ai gonzi?
Il guaio è che queste scemenze ostacolano una discussione seria sul
problema. Perché sull'uso di Ritalin e compagnia nei bambini, nonché
sulla stessa diagnosi di ADHD ci sono parecchi problemi reali e
grossi, specie negli USA dove diagnosi e prescrizioni hanno (avevano?)
raggiunto dimensioni abnormi, tali da far decisamente pensare più a un
fenomeno di contenimento sociale a buon mercato di difficoltà
comportamentali comuni e per nulla patologiche nell'infanzia,
congiunta a un fenomeno speculativo del business farmaceutico che non
a una corretta pratica clinica.
Su questo avevo sostenuto una discussione sfibrante anni fa proprio su
questo NG, ricordo ancora la fatica per tenermi alla larga dagli
"opposti estremismi" sulla questione, e non ho intenzione di
ripeterla, rimando a un'eventuale ricerca su google gruppi per la
documentazione -- all'epoca fatta in modo piuttosto approfondito -- di
queste mie considerazioni.
Comunque, sui grossi problemi che ci sono stati per la presenza di
Scientology all'interno della campagna di farmacovigilanza "Giù le
mani dai bambini" -- campagna della quale condivido alcune
preoccupazioni, anche se non l'intera impostazione e le conclusioni
[1] -- è interessante vedere:
http://www.giulemanidaibambini.org/stampa/glm_ciscrivono__16.pdf
http://www.giulemanidaibambini.it/stampa/glm_ciscrivono__5.pdf
[1] Per quel che può valere, le mie conclusioni personali sulla
questione ADHD e Ritalin/anfetamine è che in alcuni casi diagnosi e
terapia hanno senso, e che quindi è stato corretto registrare il
farmaco, ma che deve esserci un *severo* controllo medico su diagnosi
e terapie del genere, preferibilmente affidate esclusivamente a centri
specializzati, perché presentano livelli di rischio piuttosto alti,
medici e sociali.
Grosso modo è questa la presa di posizione dell'Istituto Superiore di
Sanità che avevo visionato all'epoca, e del resto noto che anche FDA
USA sta cercando di tirare i remi in barca sulla questione, viste le
dimensioni abnormi del fenomento negli USA.
Senza inutili demonizzazioni penso occorra vigilare nelle scuole ed in
ambito sociale per evitare il rischio di ripetersi di fenomeni del
genere anche da noi: la partenza del marketing preregistrazione in
Italia, con ricerche semiclandestine svolte nelle scuole e tanto di
interventi della magistratura e prese di posizione di importanti
consigli comunali era stata decisamente preoccupante.
Saluti da Bhisma
-- 
... e il pensier libero, è la mia fé!