Newsgroup: it.arti.animazione
Titolo: Ideon e Evangelion

Sono riuscito a trovare i collegamenti di Evangelion con Ideon. Immagino
interessi un po' di cultura otaku. Il testo reperito e' ovviamente in
inglese, come capita sempre (e non ho tempo per tradurlo :PPP). Il commento
finale e' inviperito, forse gli avevano toccato Rahxephon o qualcosa del
genere.
SPOILER sul finale di Ideon (opera di Tomino successiva a Gundam, non ho
capito se uno o tre anni dopo):
Taken from a post on Animeondvd
Basically, the premise of Ideon was that Earthlings on their space
colonisation conquest came across a planet that had many alien artifacts,
that's where they uncovered the mecha of Ideon. Shortly upon uncovering it,
another alien race came in and tried to take hold of Ideon, our hero, Cosmo
and his friends managed to make the Ideon move, and they fought against the
aliens. Afterwards they gathered all the survivers and tried to ran away
from the aliens while the aliens continues to persue them.
Now, later we found that the aliens were in persude of Ideon because of the
promise of the mysterious power of Id, while some of them want the power to
themselves, others also knew that the aliens that discovered the power of Id
were destroied because of the power of Id. So inside there, they are
actually two groups torn between obtaining the power, and destroying Ideon.
(A parallel would be between SEELE and NERV in EVA).
Back to our heros, as they continues the battle, they discover that the
power of Id actually feeds on the souls and emotions of the pilots (geez
where have I seen that before ), and the more in danger the pilots becomes,
the more powerful Ideon becomes. They also found that Id is partically
sensitive to children and infants, and many times response to the fear of
them and help them fought off the enemies.
Finally coming to the end, there finally came the clincher. We were told
that the alien race that discovered Id did not in fact got destroied, but
rather after tapping into the true power of Id, they evolved to a soul-like
existance that became part of Id itself, where everyone can co-exist
peacefully. And that Ideon and Id where in fact leading both the Earthlings
and aliens into this bloody tag war of power to destory/evolve them all into
Id itself and rid the universe of hate and misunderstanding, and start
afresh! And with that our hero Cosmo, suffering from the trauma of losing
almost all his friends and love ones during this war, choose to obey the
will of Id, tapped into the true power of Ideon and actually destroied the
whole universe, and everyone died.
Finally, the viewers were treated to all the characters, Earthlings and the
aliens, in their soul-like form, floating towards the centre of universe and
watching over the new birth of the universe......
Now that I've pretty much summarized what happened in Ideon. It's not
difficult to see that the whole idea of EVA, Unit 1 as the key, the human
completion project, and the whole of the EVA movices etc were pretty much
the same as the themes in Ideon. Human completion project rids humans of
their AT Fields (psychological barrier) so that there is no more
misunderstanding between humans, hence people can evolve to a god-like
existance, compared to the idea of Ideon where Id using itself as a bait to
neutralise the universe of hate and misunderstanding by breaking down the
barrier between these people and let their souls lay bare to each other,
hence come together as one and become a spiritial existance. I think you can
pretty much map how EVA actually *ripped off* (delibrate word choice, as
Anno himself admits that Ideon was one of the main inspiration of EVA) its
entire premises from Ideon. So eat that, all you EVA fanboys!
FV

 genere.
Secondo me perchč gli avevano dett che EVa č "originale" :)

 Secondo me perchè gli avevano dett che EVa è "originale" :)
Ma in Ideon i personaggi sono sviluppati allo stesso modo di Eva? perche' il
vero succo, l'originalita' sta tutta li', il resto e' solo contorno
Se tutto Eva fosse solo una scopiazzatura non si capirebbe perche' abbia
avuto tanto successo anche in patria (i jappi lo avranno visto Ideon no? o
hanno una memoria cortissima? eppure ne mangiano di pesce... ;^^)
Comunque che alla Gainax piaccia citare tutto il citabile non e' una
novita', guardate il filmatino di Abenobashi nell'ultimo CD di Benkyoo e
vedrete fino a che punto sono capaci di arrivare, altro che Excel Saga...
;;;^^
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Halman

entire premises from Ideon. So eat that, all you EVA fanboys!
E' davvero cosi'? O_o
Beh, io dico che il ragazzo non sembra avere tutti i torti! ^____^
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