Newsgroup: it.sport.calcio.estero
Titolo: I tifosi inglesi a Milano

Sempre se sapete leggere in inglese.
Assistant Club Secretary Ken Ramsden has revealed that grievances
raised by fans following the recent trip to Milan will be passed onto
UEFA to underline the Club's call for disciplinary action.
ManUtd.com recently published an article welcoming feedback from fans,
and travelling Reds were united in their dismay at the handling of a
number of issues - primarily delays, poor stewarding, signage and the
danger of bottles being thrown by home fans.
Ramsden revealed: "All these emails we've since had are going to UEFA.
The sheer volume demonstrates that not everybody's wrong. If they're
saying the things they are in such numbers, then it's fair to say it's
true.
"It's worth thanking the fans for all they've sent to us. They've
reiterated what we knew and gone into some real detail - it's been
very, very good. The time has come now that actions will speak louder
than words. Something needs to be done and I think it will be."
Ramsden insists that United were given assurances over each potential
flashpoint which were not subsequently upheld.
"In January we identified the potential for people to throw things
from above."
Assistant Secretary Ken Ramsden 
 
He said: "Back in January we saw the potential for people to throw
from above so we raised it as an issue with the club and the police.
We were told it would be addressed. We had to take their word that
they would deal with that. They didn't.
"On the day they told us our fans would be kept behind for half an
hour. Then on the night they were kept in for an hour and ten minutes.
That offer of holding them back for 30 minutes was said at the
official UEFA meeting on the morning of the game. When people tell you
something face to face you have no reason not to accept it.
"When they first told us about the holdback, we immediately raised the
question of transport. We were assured that if they kept the fans back
then they would keep the transport on. It didn't happen.
"We've said to UEFA 'why don't you get signs put up for visiting
fans?' It isn't rocket science. UEFA are saying to me that it's a good
idea and they'll get on with it. Whether or not it happens next
season, we'll see."
Ramsden insists the Club did all they could to head off the potential
dangers, despite claims from some fans to the contrary.
He said: "Despite what some correspondents think, we cannot go to
Milan or anywhere else and tell the police or the club how to conduct
their business. If they came to Manchester and said it to us they
would get short shrift.
"One correspondent says 'it's about time United started fighting the
supporters' corner.' I don't think that's entirely fair. Quite
honestly there is no other club in Europe who goes to greater lengths
than Manchester United does to protect its fans.
"We do the best we can, but we're limited. We cannot tell foreign
police forces how their operation must take place. So we advise,
recommend, suggest and do all the things we can do. We put it all in
writing and copy UEFA in."
Ramsden has been at the forefront of meetings between English clubs
and the government about the safety of fans abroad, and subsequently
the points made have been passed on to UEFA by the Sports Minister.
 
He said: "I honestly don't think there's any more we could have done
than that which we did. We identify the pitfalls and dangers, as do
the Greater Manchester Police, the FA and the British Consul. The fact
that it's not delivered means it's now a subject for complaint."
Ramsden revealed that the Club's complaint is almost certain to be
backed up by another respected source.
"UEFA appointed a security delegate to the game," he revealed. "He
submitted what is understood to be a fairly lengthy report to UEFA
about match arrangements. Whilst not privy to the contents of that
report it is a fairly safe bet that it won't be complimentary.
"We do expect to hear from UEFA, we do hope and expect to see some
action on their part and we do expect that to become public because
there's no reason to hide anything here."
Report by Steve Bartram.
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 UEFA to underline the Club's call for disciplinary action.
Ancora perdi tempo con certa gente?
Non hai capito che parlano solo per partito preso?
Che affogino nella loro MERDA.
Come dice il nome "I_LOVE_MANCHESTER_UNITED" e lo amero' PER SEMPRE,me 
ne fotto dei giudizi sul calcio inglese di certa gente,che parla solo 
per GELOSIA.

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non fai di tua spontanea volontà una sega al cane ( ovvero dopo 10 secondi,
ma non penso che si fermeranno). [cit.] 

Che affogino nella loro MERDA.
Considerando che certa gente affoga nel proprio sperma (dopo che
gliel'hanno appoggiato, ovvio).
Ciao, Gionni
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 qualità..
Comunque c'era un Max tifoso del Manchester tempo fa. 

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