Newsgroup: it.sport.calcio.estero
Titolo: TOp50 Football player

Gabriele Marcotti e' un giornalista italiano (credo che scriva anche sulla
GAzzetta), che da anni vive a Londra e scrive anche per il Times.
Lo scorso 20 Giugno ha pubblicato la sua lista dei migliori giocatori al
Mondo nell'anno appena concluso.
Questa la sua classifica con le motivazioni.
Dal N.50 al N.1
Divertitevi..;-)
50. Gary Neville (Manchester United)
A right back is admittedly an unusual choice, but Neville brings a host of
intangibles to the table, from leadership to experience to consistency.
49. Clarence Seedorf (Milan)
You don't win four Champions League crowns with three different clubs by
accident. Perhaps he doesn't turn it on as often as he once did, but his
collection of rabbit's feet alone makes him a worthwhile punt.
48. Jefferson Farfan (PSV Eindhoven)
He gives you trickery, pace and width, plus a host of goals (42 in the Dutch
league over the past two years, a remarkable total for a guy who is not a
genuine centre forward).
47. Phillip Lahm (Bayern Munich)
Little Mr Consistency runs all day and is a reliable source of goal-saving
tackles and pinpoint crosses. Arguably the best left back around.
46. Rodrigo Palacio (Boca Juniors)
Probably the most reliable striker outside Europe. Something of a late
bloomer, at 25 he's really hitting his stride.
45. Diego (Werder Bremen)
Stick him in the hole behind two strikers and watch him weave his magic. He'
s Kaka-lite (or, given his corpulent build, Kaka-heavy).
44. Rino Gattuso (Milan)
Steven Gerrard's ghostwriters may not rate him, but most of the rest of us
do. He runs himself into the ground, lifts the crowd and never gives up.
43. Hernan Crespo (Inter)
139 goals in his past 209 league starts in Serie A and the Premiership tell
only part of the story. His movement up front is also straight out of a
footballing textbook.
42. Klaas-Jan Huntelaar (Ajax)
By all accounts, he had a poor season - "just" 21 league goals (down from 33
last year). That says it all. Comparisons to Marco van Basten may be wide of
the mark, but he'll get you goals.
41. Alessandro Nesta (Milan)
Now that he's fit again, strikers beware: he's unnaturally quick, strong in
the tackle and about as athletic as anyone playing the game today.
40. Juninho Pernambucano (Lyons)
Elegant and creative, but also with an edge when necessary, he can light up
any side. Plus, he'll get his usual haul of set-piece goals.
39. "Lucho" Gonzalez (Porto)
A box-to-box dervish who gets his fair share of goals and is a natural
leader to boot. If only he played in a higher profile league...
38. Paul Scholes (Manchester United)
He redefined the role of attacking midfield player in the Premiership. The
one concern is how well he would do away from his mentor, Sir Alex Ferguson.
37. Daniele De Rossi (Roma)
The poor man's Roy Keane. Runs the midfield with intensity and intelligence
and, like Keane, occasionally falls prey to the red mist (just ask Brian
McBride).
36. Dejan Stankovic (Inter)
His long-range goals make the highlight reels, but his real contribution is
the way he can effortlessly slot into any midfield position.
35. Fernando Torres (Atletico Madrid)
It feels as if he's been around forever, but he's still just twenty-three.
Tall, strong, bright, he can lead any line on his own.
34. David Beckham (Real Madrid/Los Angeles Galaxy)
Strip away the hype, and you have a respected leader who provides the most
delicious service from wide positions. That alone is worth a few dozen goals
a season.
33. Javier Zanetti (Inter)
Again, we're dealing with intangibles here. The Inter skipper is a true
leader, selfless and self-sacrificing, who can fill either full-back
position or play in midfield. One of the most underrated players of the past
decade.
32. Jamie Carragher (Liverpool)
Like a fine wine, he gets better with age. Reads the game exceptionally well
and has developed a first-rate tactical awareness. Plus, he'd run through a
brick wall for you.
31. Florent Malouda (Lyons)
Put him wide or put him in a diamond and the result is the same: a blend of
quality and workrate that make him one of the most sought-after players on
the market today.
30. John Terry (Chelsea)
He's what God had in mind when he invented the British centre half. While
Terry's strength and courage win him plaudits, he is also an underrated
distributor who reads the game very well.
29. Andrea Pirlo (Milan)
Possibly the best free-kick taker of the lot. He single-handedly brought
back the role of the deep-lying playmaker. He's the human metronome, the man
who dictates his team's rhythym and hardly ever gives the ball away.
28. Mahamadou Diarra (Real Madrid)
He's a natural-made backbone to any side. Never stops running, wins every
50-50 and distributes the ball efficiently. A central defender's best
friend.
27. David Villa (Valencia)
Nobody in La Liga has scored more over the past two seasons. Quick, tricky
and with an eye for goal, he will punish any opponent's error.
26. Michael Ballack (Chelsea)
OK, so he had a bad season. But he's big, strong, outstanding in the air and
can find the target from anywhere in the final third of the pitch.
25. Dimitar Berbatov (Tottenham Hotspur)
He has the body of a bruiser and the touch of a virtuoso. And he looks like
he'll only get better. One of the more athletic big men on this list.
24. Andriy Shevchenko (Chelsea)
Like Ballack, he underachieved last year. But his contribution goes beyond
goals (is it just a coincidence that Didier Drogba scored so much in the one
season he played alongside the Ukrainian?) and with an injury-free
pre-season under his belt, he's worth taking a punt on.
23. Ronaldo (Milan)
Put your fat jokes to one side please. Consider instead the seven goals in
twelve starts for Milan after leaving the Bernabeu asylum. Or the 82 goals
in 117 starts he notched at Real in the seasons before the move. Now wash
your mouth out with soap.
22. Didier Drogba (Chelsea)
The nice thing with him is that you can either leave him up on his own and
lump balls to him or get him involved in the short-passing game. Either way,
he'll tie up entire opposing back fours on his own.
21. Carles Puyol (Barcelona)
A fine defender, but he ranks so high for the intangibles. Puyol is a
natural-born leader, a manager's dream, a guy who knows his limits and will
leave his innards on the pitch for the club.
20. Iker Casillas (Real Madrid)
Already a legend, and he only turned 26 last month. He's an agile, fearless
shot-stopper who, if Raul ever retires, will captain Real for years to come.
19. Daniel Alves (Seville)
Rarely does a single man dominate an entire flank the way he does. He
combines the skills of a winger with the grit of an old-style hard man. His
mere presence on the pitch forces the opposing side to readjust everything
defensively.
18. Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal)
If you could open his skull, you'd find the brain of a 30-year-old. Few
players are so mature and so aware at such a young age, while also being
totally undaunted by the task in front of them.
17. Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Inter)
Admittedly, he's one of the more volatile heads on this list. But creativity
and vision like his rarely come in 6ft 5in packages, which makes him one of
the most difficult players to defend against in the game.
16. Frank Lampard (Chelsea)
Let's let the numbers do the talking, shall we? He has missed five league
games in the past six seasons at Chelsea, while hitting double figures in
league goals in each of the past four. Plus, he never slows down and is
genuinely adored by his team-mates. What more do you want?
15. Ruud van Nistelrooy (Real Madrid)
And to think some numpties thought he was finished. He and Thierry Henry are
the only strikers to have scored 20 or more goals in a major European league
in five of the past six seasons. Put the ball anywhere near him and he'll
score. Simple as that.
14. Petr Cech (Chelsea)
Go ask Jose Mourinho and he'll tell you that, had it not been for Steven
Hunt's boot, Chelsea would have won the treble this year. That's how
important Cech is. With a guy like him, you can just stick him in goal, stop
worrying about the defensive aspect of the game and focus instead on the
other end of the pitch.
13. Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid)
The highest ranked defender on this list and with good reason. He's big,
strong, fast and gifted. He held Real's defence together this season, while
chipping in at the attacking end as well. And he's still only 21...
12. Thierry Henry (Arsenal)
Would have ranked higher, if not for the fact that he hasn't played since
early March and it remains to be seen in what condition he'll return. Beyond
that, he's a sure thing. Not only does he scare the bejesus out of
defenders, he is also one of the most prolific forwards around today. Had he
been around all year, it's unlikely the naysayers would have mocked Arsenal'
s lack of finishing the way they did.
11. Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)
Another who had a mediocre season (by his standards). You notice how
important he is when he is not there. His workrate and ability are hard to
replace and he is quickly becoming indispensable, both for club and country.
10. Francesco Totti (Roma)
His job is to create, not finish, and yet he won the European Golden Boot
this season with 26 league goals: a total made all the more remarkable when
you throw in the fact that he uncharacteristically missed six penalties
along the way. (At least he made the ones that mattered in the World Cup.)
That alone should get him on the list - his vision and phenomenal range of
passing are bonuses.
9. Leo Messi (Barcelona)
Leave Maradona out of it for a minute. Focus instead on that when the ball
is at his feet, unless you're Nostradamus, you have absolutely no idea what
will happen next. There is no legislating for unpredictability in football
and Messi has bags of it. Plus, his 14 Liga goals last year show that he has
added a healthy scoring dimension to his game as well.
8. Carlos Tevez (West Ham)
A single-minded winner, who has carried whole clubs on his back in
Argentina, Brazil and England. Tevez's contribution isn't measured in just
goals and assists, but in self-sacrifice and heroism. With a season of
European football under his belt, there is no telling how much better he's
going to be next year.
7. Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)
Speaking of heroics, he's done it so many times, it's easy to lose track. If
Gerrard were a few inches taller and a few pounds more slight, we would
marvel at his pure technical ability. Instead, we focus on his bruising
workrate and other more obvious qualities. Don't worry about fitting him
into your side. Just do what Rafa does. Line up your nine other outfield
players and let Gerrard do whatever he likes.
6. Gigi Buffon (Juventus)
Simply put, he's a freak of nature. No man his size should be so athletic.
His agility belies the laws of physics and he is about as unflappable as
they come. Having a guy like him in your side means that defeats turn into
draws and draws into victories. That alone is worth an extra ten to 15
points at the end of a season.
5. Michael Essien (Chelsea)
A one-man wrecking crew. Is there anything he can't do? You could probably
let the rest of the team go off for a fag break in the middle of the game
and let him man the fort in midfield. Terrifyingly gifted already and, if
given more responsibility, likely to get even better.
4. Samuel Eto'o (Barcelona)
He's tired of playing second fiddle to Ronaldinho and with good reason. If
he were anywhere else, people would be writing odes and sonnets to him. Eto'
o is freakishly quick, an outstanding finisher, with a supernatural eye for
goal. Plus, he's happy to do the dirty work when the other side have
possession. Just make sure you continue to massage his ego.
3. Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United)
In the P.C. era (pre-Cristiano) wingers were slight, nippy and small. He
redefined the position marrying size and brawn with pace and trickery. You
get the sense that, when he's running at defenders, he could go around them
or straight through them. As an added bonus, he's also an aerial threat on
set pieces.
2. Ronaldinho (Barcelona)
There's a reason he's always smiling. You'd be smiling all the time too if
you knew that you were the best player on the pitch and you were about to
make some poor defender look a jackass. He is the poster child for Brazilian
football, the proud heir of those who came before him. He didn't adapt to
the European game, he forced it to adapt to him. Put him on the team sheet,
sit back and enjoy the show.
1. Kaka (Milan)
The top four are incredibly tight, but he just edges it for one simple
reason: he combines Brazilian flair with European directness like nobody
else. He truly is a product of two footballing cultures, a man who has all
the virtues and none of the vices of either. Speaking of vices, he really,
really doesn't have any. A committed Christian, he announced proudly that he
was a virgin on his wedding night. He likes to parade around in his
favourite T-shirt, the one that reads "I belong to Jesus" (thereby opening a
whole can of worms regarding third-party ownership). And that's another
reason he tops the list - with Kaka in your team, odds are, the big fella
upstairs will be on your side as well...
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 4. Samuel Eto'o (Barcelona)
4° giocatore al mondo?
Troppo.
Ha messo Puyol più in alto di Nesta per le sue qualità di leader e uomo squadra, e
poi mi mette il più grande testa di cazzo in giro al 4°.
Classifica che non metterà mai nessuno d'accordo, ma mancano Cannavaro e Materazzi,
un posto tra i migliori 50 non lo meritano?
Ha inserito gente reduce da una stagione penosa come Ballack, uno che davvero ancora
non ha fatto nulla come Torres, messo una pletora di attaccanti, ma non ci sono
Inzaghi, Toni e Klose (i 2 nuovi del Bayern hanno segnato tantissimo negli ultimi 2
anni), mentre c'è Berbatov!!!
Io non avrei proprio inserito Tevez, con tutto che lo adoro, ma c'è chi ha
dimostrato un pelino di più per ora, di certo 8° è troppo alto.
Ben 8 inglesi nei primi 50:Neville, Terry, Carragher, Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard,
Beckham e Rooney, capisco che è un articolo per un giornale inglese, ma si esagera.
Italiani 6: Gattuso, Pirlo, De Rossi, Totti, Nesta e Buffon
Solo 6 brasiliani: Kakà, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Diego, Juninho, Alves
Argentini 6 : Gonzales, Palacio, Crespo, Zanetti, Tevez, Messi (Riquelme?, almeno al
posto di Palacio?
Francia solo Henry e Malouda?
Nota di colore: Farfan, bravo, ma nei top 50?
Ciao
-- 
L' intelligenza è  una pianta che va curata continuamente; dovreste vedere
come è bello il mio bonsai

 davvero ancora non ha fatto nulla come Torres,
coem Torres non ha fatto nulla?
Ma non e' lui che ha vinto gli ultimi 6 PAlloni d;Oro?
;-)
Oramai sta prendendo la strada di Totti....stessa campagna mediatica...
;-)
max
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 1. Da Silva (Dinamo Zagabria)
Quoto.

 Oramai sta prendendo la strada di Totti....stessa campagna mediatica...
quoto cazzo!!!! però non ha vinto un mondiale, non ha vinto uno
scudetto, non ha vinto la scarpa d'oro, non ha vinto la coppa nazionale,
non ha vinto la classifica marcatori, non ha vinto la classifica
assistman, non ha mai convinto in almeno 4 diversi ruoli, non ha il
tiro, non ha la visione di gioco, non ha la tecnica di totti.
A parte questo concordo , gli somiglia, ed entrambi sono troppo pompati
dalla stampa.
-- 
Josè ci delizia con la sua competenza:
- "Michael Ballack, Ricardo Carvalho e ora anche Andriy Shevchenko. Non
sto nominando un dreamteam, ma l'elenco degli indisponibili per questa
sera tra le fila del Chelsea."

> 1. Da Silva (Dinamo Zagabria)
ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!
fuori concorso:
Van Persie (Arsenal)
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 pompati dalla stampa.
a questo punto e' chiaro che avevi gia' fatto colazione...
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 a questo punto e' chiaro che avevi gia' fatto colazione...
in fase digestiva si ragiona meglio, l'hai notato pure te, vedo.
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tutto giusto :)
non essere perplesso :D
la cazzata è che è il difensore più in alto... ce ne sono almeno 4 o 5
che dovrebbero stargli avanti, per ora, ma è giovIne e rIbusto e si
farà :P

 in fase digestiva si ragiona meglio, l'hai notato pure te, vedo.
alle volte vai sopra le righe senza motivi logici....
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 alle volte vai sopra le righe senza motivi logici....
Ne ha bisogno per dare un minimo di parvenza di credibilità alle sue tesi... 
che espresse in maniera calma e pacata si rivelerebbero in tutta la loro 
assurdità, senza contare che lo fanno comunque... 

 dalla stampa.
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLL ALTISONANTE! 

 alle volte vai sopra le righe senza motivi logici....
traduzione per chi non capisce la tattica swit:
"sto trottando, me l'hai messo al culo con il paragone torres totti e la
butto in caciara dicendo che non capisci/che vai sopra le righe".
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 assurdità, senza contare che lo fanno comunque... 
dai, vediamo se riesci a dire che torrotfles è mejo de totti.
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 dai, vediamo se riesci a dire che torrotfles è mejo de totti.
Non parlo di totti in generale, men che meno in un newsgroup di calcio 
estero, con un romanista, con massi.
ps torrotfles ti è venuto a caso o c'è un riferimento al toro... visto che 
parliamo di uno spagnolo? 

 parliamo di uno spagnolo? 
Torres è venuto fuori perchè se imparassi a leggere riusciresti anche a
vedere che l'amichetto tuo massimo l'ha preso per il culo all'inizio del
thread, non ho fatto altro che umiliare lui e torres mostrando le
sottili differenze che passano tra i due.
A casa dai, che devi fare il pranzo.
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 Torres è venuto fuori CUT
Intendevi Totti? 

 Senderos (Arsenal)
rega a parte lehman e senderos... ma kolo è davvero un bel difensore! è 
fortissimo. 

quante cazzate... io propongo quella ufficiale di ISCE, spero che tutti 
vogliate sottoscriverla:
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50) Denilson (Arsenal)
49) Clichy (Arsenal)
48) Torricelli (Squadra Calciatori Disoccupati)
47) Birindelli (Juve)
46) Recoba (Inter)
45) Legrottaglie (Juve)
44) Boumsong (Juve)
43) Flachi (Samp)
42) Mutu (Fiorentina)
41) Bachini (n/a)
40) Kallon (Monaco)
39) Borriello (Genoa)
38) Pagotto (Crotone)
37) Agostini (Murata)
36) Bazzani (Brescia)
35) Vieri (Atalanta)
34) Kerlon (Cruzeiro)
33) D'Alessandro (Real Zaragoza)
32) R. Oliveira (Milan)
31) Gourcuff (Milan, nuovo Zidane)
30) Gallas (Arsenal)
29) Dalmat (Sochaux)
28) Gresko (Bayer Leverkusen)
27) Poulsen (Sevilla)
26) Dellas (Aek Atene)
25) Palermo (Boca Juniors)
24) Chiumiento (Lucerna)
23) Anderson (Man Utd)
22) Bent (Tottenham)
21) Baptista (Real Madrid)
20) Cassano (Real Madrid)
19) Di Canio (Cisco Roma)
18) Hubner (Rodengo Saiano)
17) Nani (Man Utd)
16) Fabregas (Arsenal)
15) Reyes (Arsenal)
14) Suazo (Inter)
13) Bendtner (Arsenal)
12) Djourou (Arsenal)
11) Flamini (Arsenal)
e ora i top-ten, mi spiace ma prevale la scuola anglo-americana.......
10) Pizarro (Chelsea)
Il grande campione tedesco diventato campione da quando è approdato ai 
Blues, prima chi l'ha mai sentito nominare? ha mai segnato un gol? quale? 
quando?
9) Kalou (Chelsea)
Il giovane attaccante dei Blues che ha già dimostrato di saper fare... sì 
insomma di saper... sì, diciamo che riesce a stare in campo, a volte corre, 
ha avuto un'infanzia difficile, ma il suo futuro è scritto: fenomeno!
8) Senderos (Arsenal)
Il più grande attaccante svizzero in circolazione, per fortuna che sono 
pochi, l'altro è Djourou, fate un po' due conti...
7) Adu (Real Salt Lake)
Professionista a 14 anni. Avete capito bene, ce l'ha fatta questo vecchio 
baby fenomeno che in pochi anni ha bruciato le tappe... è finalmente 
arrivato al Real (Salt Lake)
6) Van Persie (Arsenal)
Unico ad avere il posto sicuro in attacco nella squadra più forte 
dell'universo, probabile che Henry se ne sia andato per non sfigurare ancora 
al suo fianco.
5) Vela (Arsenal)
Vincitore morale di tutti gli Under19 e Under20 degli ultimi anni, tra poco 
vincerà anche Premier League e Champions League under18, Scarpa d'Oro 
under32 (la taglia), è solo questione di tempo.
4) Adebayor (Arsenal)
Il canguro nero dell'attacco dei Gunners, zompetta, saltella, corre a destra 
e a sinistra, una gioia per le mamme e i bambini
3) Walcott (Arsenal)
Il mini-fenomeno, l'eroe che come da pronostico ha illuminato le notti di 
Parigi e Berlino con le sue fantasiose giocate. Promessa? sì, ma già 
mantenuta.
2) Da Silva (Arsenal)
Dopo aver vinto la Scarpa d'Oro 2007 non per i gol segnati ma sulla scia 
dell'entusiasmo popolare, il sostituto di Henry nessuno sa chi cazzo sia, ma 
Massimo garantisce che è fortissimo, come ogni nuovo acquisto dell'Arsenal
1) Zamora (West Ham)
Egli è Tutto.
Flagellatevi dopo aver letto il suo nome, non ne siete degni.
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ok, cosa dite la mandiamo alla gazzetta? 


MA MEGAROTFL! tutto. :-D :-D
Comunque mancano gente del calibro di Darren Bent e Massimo Donati (la 
cui dipartita dal calcio italiano segna la fine di un'epoca).

 Scriveva Buck martedě, 03/07/2007:
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Bent sta al 22, ma Donati....... diomio ho dimenticato DO NA TI ! ! !
:-(
e Lupoli? cazzo... da rifare.
La correggo e la posto in un nuovo thread. 

 La correggo e la posto in un nuovo thread. 
Se posso...
Metterei Torres in top ten e recoba come minimo nei primi trenta.
-- 
ciao

 Metterei Torres CUT
ehm..... 

 ehm..... 
scusa, buck
-- 
ciao

 scusa, buck
argh, l'ho già ripostata... cmq sì, Torres ci stava tutto 

 Intendevi Totti? 
ma sei de legno d'acero o che???
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 ma sei de legno d'acero o che???
ROTFL rileggi!!!!!!! hai confuso i nomi... 

 ROTFL rileggi!!!!!!! hai confuso i nomi... 
 i nomi sono due, torres e totti. Entrambi messi in ballo da switterotfl
all'inizio di questo thread.
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 all'inizio di questo thread.
esatto... ma tu hai confuso prima... i due nomi intendo