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Titolo: Scientology wins in italy ?!

Apparently scientology has won in Italy - according to a german paper, a
few days ago the highest appeals court in Rome dismissed a decision of a
Milano court that called scientology a criminal organisation. Instead,
it decided that scientology is a religion(!). 33 scientologists will now
get a new trial for fraud and threatening. Sadly I have not been able to
get anything of this confirmed.
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get anything of this confirmed.
An italian person sent me this:
They did, actually. I haven't found the motives yet, but they did.
I'm not so negative though. The Supreme Court can decide only on 
flaws or procedural mistakes, not on the merits. The Public 
Prosecutor will surely insitute new proceedings, and start again. This 
will take time of course, but since the instituting of the first trial
10 yrs have passed, and there probably are more info to work on, and 
the 'German affair' in between.
This Public Prosecutor is really tough, I followed her on other trials.
And this District Attoney (Milan) is the toughest we have, it's the one 
from where 'Clean Hands' started.
In Italy a proceeding can go back and forth the Supreme Court endless 
times. The trial for the bomb in Milan in 1969 was instituted 4 times.
So, let's not be negative.
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Here more info - sorry for the line length:
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CORRIERE DELLA SERA OCT. 9TH 1997
The Supreme Court reversed the decision taken
by the Appeal Court of Milan
Scientology: cancelled sentence - The
followers: our religious nature has been 
recognized.
Rome - The Supreme Court has cancelled and
deferred the sentence of the Milan Appeal 
Court against 33 adepts of  Scientology. It's
the sentence upon which the religious 
nature of the organization was denied.
"It's a great win - told Fabio Amilcarelli of
Scientology - to the religion, to 
Scientology and to any other religion, even
minor, in Italy". In this way "the religious 
freedom constitutionally guaranteed has been
respected" and "for the second time, the 
Supreme Court made justice".
As we know, the "Church of Scientology" was
founded by Ron Hubbard, a science fiction 
writer who was born in Nebraska in 1911, and
died in his ranch near Los Angeles in 1986.
In 1950 Hubbard published "Dianetics: The
modern science of mental health" which 
promptly became a best seller. His theories
promise the freedom from anguish and 
psichosomatic illness.  Dianetics schools
spread in the US and worldwide and then
became 
the "Church of Scientology", and Hubbard
called it an "applied religious philosophy".
In 
1971 Hubbard's church obtained the religious
status from a federal judge, and gained the 
right of protection under the USA
Constitution. In Italy, the first center was
opened in 
Milan in the second half of the 70s. More
centers were then established in Rome and 
other cities. 
Going back to the decision of yesterday, The
Supreme Court cancelled the sentence of the 
Milan Appeal Court which had denied the
religious nature of Scientology in 1996, and 
convicted 33 officers of the organization for
criminal association. The matter of the 
religious nature regarding Scientology was
urged by The Supreme Court itself, which had 
cancelled and deferred a previous sentence of
the Milan Appeal Court in 1995, claiming 
that the verification of Scientology nature
had been seen as "unnecessary".
Present in Court for the defense of the
organization officers in Rome yesterday there
were, among others, also Alfredo Biondi,
former Minister of Justice [a lawyer-ndt] and
the lawyer Giuliano Spazzali who yesterday
presented to the judges of the Supreme Court 
a memory insisting on the religious nature of
Scientology, and claiming that, to deny 
it, the sentence "hardly climbed up  an
arduous slope fulfilled with obstacles."
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LA REPUBBLICA OCT. 9TH 1997
Scientology: The Supreme Court cancels the
convictions.
Milan - There will be a new trial for the 33
adherents of the Church of Scientology. The 
sixth criminal section of the Supreme Court
has infact cancelled and deferred the 
sentence delivered against the adepts by the
Milan Appeal Court.  After about two hours 
of chambers the judges of the Supreme Court
decided to cancel the sentence and deferred 
it to another section of the Appeal Court in
Milan. It deals particularly with the 
virdict with which, among other things, the
religious nature of the organization was 
denied. 
"It's a big win - commented Fabio Amilcarelli
of Scientology - to religion, to 
Scientology and to any other religion, even
minor, in Italy" According to Amilcarelli 
infact "the religious freedom
constitutionally guaranteed has been
respected" and "for 
the second time, the Supreme Court made
justice".
The pg Oscar Pedrangolo who asked for the
confirm of the convictions, in his bill of 
indictment did try to keep aloof from the
religious matter: "The Supreme Court isn't 
surely the proper seat to ascertain weather
Scientology is a religion or a buiseness. 
The judges must instead ascertain if the
crimes committed by some of their adepts are 
private initiatives or are the results of a
dictat coming from the organization."
The defense of Scientology, among which
Spazzali and Biondi, had instead reminded how
the Court, cancelling the previous appeal
sentence in 1995, did fix some criteria to 
ascertain the religious nature of the
organization. The Appeal Court convicted 33 
Scientology adepts on Jan. 17th last,
cancelling the maxi-assolution of the first
degree 
and convicting the adepts to sentences
between 9 months and two years for criminal 
association.  
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THE DEFENSE LAWYERS: GIULIANO SPAZZALI &
ALFREDO BIONDI (THE CAT AND THE FOX).
They both are stars, excellent professionals,
both colluded with the political and 
financial power of my country and both
somehow connected to the "Operation Clean
Hands" 
started by the Milan District Attorney in
1991. The Distict Attorney finally could
prove 
that the political parties ruling the country
at that time were actually stealing  lots 
of money, in the order of hundreds (or
thousands) of million dollars of public
funds.
They led the country close to the total
bankrupt, and of course we had to pay, and
are 
still paying, for their thefts. 
This sort of "White Revolution" caused the
end of most parties among which the Socialist
Party and the Christian Democrats, ruling the
country at that time (and for the previous 
45 yrs). Just to say how much the Milan
District Attorney is loved and 'appreciated'
by 
the ex-politicians.
Lawyer Giuliano Spazzali (renamed the "Space
Lawyer" by the political satire, after his 
name reminding the space - Spazio) was the
defense lawyer of one of these political 
power yes-men, who was finally sentenced to a
8 yrs term by Public Prosecutor (and 
national hero) ANTONIO DI PIETRO.
In 1993 Mr. Berlusconi won the elections. Mr.
Berlusconi is a ghost of Mr. Craxi, 
former prime (thief) minister, sentenced in
absence, now in Tunisia. 
His government fortunately lasted only 8
months. Mr. Berlusconi is a national tycoon, 
owner of 3 nationwide TV companies, several
magazines and newspapers, publishing 
companies, supermarkets, Milan Football Club
etc. etc. He hates di Pietro, because di 
Pietro is the one who will finally put him in
jail and will throw the key away. 
Berlusconi is a dear friend of the space
lawyer and of Mr. Biondi, such a close friend
to make him MINISTER OF JUSTICE in his
government (sic).
Mr. Biondi only one task as a Minister was to
distroy the Public Prosecutor Antonio di 
Pietro, and he almost succeded. Mr. Biondi is
now under investigation for having framed 
up di Pietro.
Antonio di Pietro was (is) a national hero,
had to leave his post as a Public Prosecutor 
with the Milan District Attorney to defend
himself, and had and has the complete support
of The Chief Attorney and all the Attorney
Staff. This means Milan Distric Attorney 
against Biondi, an endless struggle between
good and evil.
So now I think that as far as the Scieno
matter stays in Milan we have to be positive.
They're not only doing their duty as
Prosecutors, but also combatting their mortal
enemies.
And vice-versa.
Mr. Space Lawyer and Mr. Biondi are surely
doing the most good on the higher number of 
dynamics for my country and its citizens. In
all senses.

Tilman Hausherr (
til...@berlin.snafu.de
) wrote:
[..]
: 
: THE DEFENSE LAWYERS: GIULIANO SPAZZALI &
: ALFREDO BIONDI (THE CAT AND THE FOX).
: They both are stars, excellent professionals,
: both colluded with the political and 
this is just allegation and not truth.
: financial power of my country and both
: somehow connected to the "Operation Clean
: Hands" 
: started by the Milan District Attorney in
: 1991. The Distict Attorney finally could
: prove 
: that the political parties ruling the country
: at that time were actually stealing  lots 
: of money, in the order of hundreds (or
: thousands) of million dollars of public
: funds.
: They led the country close to the total
: bankrupt, and of course we had to pay, and
: are 
: still paying, for their thefts. 
What is not mentioned is that the entire political system was corrupted
including the comunist party and its successors that used the scandal
in order to take the place of the socialist. Prove is the continuos
handouts to the "friends" like the law on the "rottamazione" or the
operation "banco di napoli".
: This sort of "White Revolution" caused the
: end of most parties among which the Socialist
: 
: Party and the Christian Democrats, ruling the
: country at that time (and for the previous 
: 45 yrs). Just to say how much the Milan
: District Attorney is loved and 'appreciated'
: by 
: the ex-politicians.
: Lawyer Giuliano Spazzali (renamed the "Space
: Lawyer" by the political satire, after his 
: name reminding the space - Spazio) was the
: defense lawyer of one of these political 
: power yes-men, who was finally sentenced to a
: 8 yrs term by Public Prosecutor (and 
: national hero) ANTONIO DI PIETRO.
So what? To do the job of a lowyer is a crime?
: In 1993 Mr. Berlusconi won the elections. Mr.
: Berlusconi is a ghost of Mr. Craxi, 
What? There is no evidence of the sort.
What is clear is that Berlusconi like everybody else in that position
in italy at the time, like agnelli and debenedetti had to pay
the political mafia (from the cristian democrats to the comunists) in order
to survive.
: former prime (thief) minister, sentenced in
: absence, now in Tunisia. 
: His government fortunately lasted only 8
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^
point of views obviously. The current regime if anything can be seen as even
worse.
: months. Mr. Berlusconi is a national tycoon, 
: owner of 3 nationwide TV companies, several
: magazines and newspapers, publishing 
: companies, supermarkets, Milan Football Club
: etc. etc. He hates di Pietro, because di 
All this is nothing compared to someone of the calibre of agnelli/de benedetti
and so on.
It is also relevant to stess that despite the fact that he is the owner of
such media, the content of most of that media is currently against hin
as it is well know to the italian audience. (e.g. costanzo)
: Pietro is the one who will finally put him in
: jail and will throw the key away. 
This is quite unlikely. First di pietro is not a magistrate any more but
a politician, second in order to send someone in jail it is necessary to
have a trial, held in courts and not on the press of the regime.
: Berlusconi is a dear friend of the space
: lawyer and of Mr. Biondi, such a close friend
: 
: to make him MINISTER OF JUSTICE in his
: government (sic).
Mr. Biondi is currently one of the presidents of the "camera" and is a well
respected politician by all parties.
: Mr. Biondi only one task as a Minister was to
: distroy the Public Prosecutor Antonio di 
: Pietro, and he almost succeded. Mr. Biondi is
What? Perhaps you have made some mistakes.
If there was a minister who actually tried to do something to stop the
illegal behaviour of the public prosecutors of milan, that was Mancuso
during the Dini government, until he was trown out of the government with a
move who had no precedence in the italian parliamentary history.
: now under investigation for having framed 
: up di Pietro.
Perhaps again you make a mistake with Previti, another lawyer and 
Minister of the defence during berlusconi's cabinet.
: Antonio di Pietro was (is) a national hero,
National hero? Definitely not now.
: had to leave his post as a Public Prosecutor 
: with the Milan District Attorney to defend
: himself, and had and has the complete support
Well if you followed his last trial there were several points where
his former boss did distanced himself from di pietro.
: 
: of The Chief Attorney and all the Attorney
: Staff. This means Milan Distric Attorney 
: against Biondi, an endless struggle between
: good and evil.
What?
Let's refrase it. The struggle between a fascist view of the state
and a libertarian view. If you think that fascism is good that is your
problem, not mine.
: So now I think that as far as the Scieno
: matter stays in Milan we have to be positive.
: 
: They're not only doing their duty as
: Prosecutors, but also combatting their mortal
: 
: enemies.
: And vice-versa.
: Mr. Space Lawyer and Mr. Biondi are surely
: doing the most good on the higher number of 
: dynamics for my country and its citizens. In
: all senses.
: 
Meaning?
: 
-- 
Saluti,
Antonio Prioglio [
antonio....@ntt.it
]

Meaning?
This is scientology language. It means to set priorities the scientology
way. For example, it is OK to neglect your own health (yourself = "1st
dynamic"), your children ("2nd dynamic") in favour of scientology ("3rd
dynamic").
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