Newsgroup: it.sport.calcio.estero
Titolo: Reclamo alla BBC

Vediamo cosa risponderanno gli Dei del giornalismo mondiale al
mio reclamo:
"if germany gonna win the world cup it will be an horrible moment..." This
is one of the comments made by your expert football pundits during today's
match between Germany and Sweden. Not only this but your commentators have
also been slagging of Italian football everytime Italy has played in the
world cup. Gary Lineker constantly brings up the match fixing allegations
affecting the Italian league. What has this got to do with the World Cup?
Remember that a lot of the people watching you are from other countries.
Have a bit of respect for other nationalities. You always pride yourselves
on how open society is in the UK to other people but from judging by the
behaviour of your employees it seems you are just a bunch of xenophobic
idiots. I can understand that you are jealous because of your constant
sporting failures but at least try and keep a lid on your bitterness and
void upsetting people who pay their TV licenses.
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Ti rispondo in inglese, cosi spero che capisca quello che voglio dire
(visto che tu ovviamente capisca molto bene l'inglese, e sono stanco
morto, quindi il mio italiano sara' pieno di errori)...
Lineker was joking. It is a long standing joke in England that Germany
win *all the time* - regardless of how well they play. The joke is
actually against England, given that England practically NEVER win, and
are always second best when we play Germany.
One of the most popular t-shirts over here says "Football is a game of
90 minutes, then Germany wins, on penalties". It is a long-running joke
in english football - we are useless, Germany always win. So the
reference to "how terrible would it be" refers to this, it is
absolutely NOT a comment against Germany!
As for the references to the scandal in Italian football, once more,
this is not meant to be offensive - far from it, the only time I have
heard it mentioned on the BBC coverage is in the context of 1982, Rossi
coming back from the scandal and Italy winning the world cup. It is
mentioned now in the context that Italy can unite AGAINST the scandals
and win regardless. It is, if anything, respectful, not derogatory.
To say it is xenophobic is to entirely miss the point, it is absolutely
not this. not at all. If you think the BBC coverage is xenophobic, you
obviously havent noticed the fact that some of their main commentators
are:
Leonardo - Brazilian
Martin O'Neill - Irish
Alan Hansen - Scottish
Desailly - French
Strachan - Scottish.
Hardly a hatred of foreigners ;-) In the time I lived in Italy, I don't
recall seeing too many non Italians on TV football coverage.
Andrew.
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 morto, quindi il mio italiano sara' pieno di errori)...
Don't worry man, as newsgroup's boss i apologise, the person who wrote that 
is just a little obsessed against England so he sees the evil in every thing 
concerning England :P 

 concerning England :P
Imbecille, chiedi ai tedeschi come si trovano con gli inglesi a casa
propria.
Boss di che cosa poi? 
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 Andrew.
Shame about the comment though "Italians can only watch the game
from their armchairs or from within italian restaurants around the world".
Like me saying the english can only watch the game from  within a clinic
for alchool rehabilitation...
A bit offensive isn't it.
Not to mention that clown Ian Wright
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 Boss di che cosa poi?
ROOOOTFL 

Again, you are reading too much into it, and seeing something that
isn't there.
As for the comment about Italian restaurants - how is that offensive?
The comment was meant to imply that there is a huge expat Italian
community around the world - in the UK as well - and they will all be
watching Italy's games and supporting them, whether in the restaurants
or in their homes.
I'd imagine if you went to an English bar in Italy, you'd find plenty
of ex-pat English people watching the match there.
And as for the way people see England - 80,000 of our supporters in
Stuttgart, are you telling me they are all hooligans. I understand 4000
people have been arrested at the world cup, and 200 of these were
English, and a good proportion of them were arrested for ticket
offences (ie touts) rather than violence.
Yet you see us all as hooligans! Do you ever think maybe we're not too
happy about negative stereotypes as well?
What am i trying to say? Massive national stereotypes are lazy and
WRONG, whoever you are making them against.
Andrew
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Oh, I forgot to say, you are absolutely right about Ian Wright.
He is an idiot, and most of the country would agree with you
:-)
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 Andrew
We'll agree to disagree on this one.
Italy has had a lot of negative comments from the British media.
For example today no one criticised the time wasting done
by english players.
Far from me wanting to lecture anyone on fair play, I just feel 
English media should not teach lessons to anyone as the England team
are as bad as other teams on terms of fair play, which does
not exist anymore anywhere.
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Didnt you hear Lawrenson say Robinson was being "cute"? He actually
meant cleverly timewasting.
And you are right, everyone does it, it is just that England have only
started doing it recently. Same thing with diving - Owen was the first
England player to realise the importance of it as a tactic.
Incidentally, if you are referring to the BBC's comments on De Rossi's
elbow in McBride's face, that wasn't just unfair play, it was
dangerous.
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